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Title: Susan Powell #2 8/17/10 - 2/07/12
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 27, 2010, 07:18:51 PM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on August 17, 2010, 12:48:47 PM
 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2
Post by: BooMonkey on August 18, 2010, 10:45:33 PM
Here's hoping they find Susan before winter sets in.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 29, 2010, 11:31:24 AM





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Oh boo effin hoo hoo.....they have their suspect.....arrest the waste of oxygen and make him talk....so sick of this BS!!!! IMO...thay have NOT done everything they can to solve this...for whatever reason, it seems they don't want to, even though they can! The woman is dead, has been dead from day one and Josh is responsible... PERIOD! Case closed.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Edward on September 02, 2010, 01:53:46 PM
I agree NUT44X4

LE and others that influence them have aided and abetted a murderer by doing little or nothing early on.

Josh is obvious to anyone who studies true crime and especially to any homicide detective worth their salt..
 
Josh has been allowed to walk away from murder and further more he has been allowed to take his children with him.

Wait until They Grow Up !!  Josh will get his. They Will Not Forget.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Leroy on September 07, 2010, 08:01:46 AM
they are doing an update on this case on GMA right now


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 07, 2010, 09:10:51 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/missing-people-america-involved-find-lost/story?id=9345175
Missing Persons: How You Can Help
Susan Powell, Lindsey Baum, Kyron Horman and Many Others Are Still Missing
Every year, thousands of people go missing in the United States. Many are never heard from again. Below are a few of the people police are looking for. Find out how you can help bring them home.

Susan Powell
The 28-year-old Utah mother has been missing since Dec. 7, the day after her husband Joshua Powell loaded up the couple's two young sons on a late night camping trip. West Valley City police say her purse and wallet were left at home.

Police have named Joshua Powell a person of interest in the case and many have expressed skepticism about his story of camping in the freezing Utah woods. Powell hired Salt Lake City criminal defense attorney Scott C. Williams, who most recently represented Elizabeth Smart's accused kidnapper, Wanda Barzee.

Friends and family say Powell was a devoted mother and would never have willingly left her children. The couple was known to have had marital and financial problems, but those who knew them say they had been working out their differences and had seemed happier in recent months.

"I'm trying to stay busy and not think about it," Kiirsi Hellewell, Susan Powell's best friend, told ABC News. "But I don't see how there's any way she can still be alive."

CLICK HERE to read more about Susan Powell's disappearance. If you have any information about Susan Powell, contact West Valley City Police at (801) 840-4000.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/attorney-husband-susan-powell-hindering-investigation/story?id=9349672


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 07, 2010, 09:11:17 AM
they are doing an update on this case on GMA right now

Hey Leroy!   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Edward on September 07, 2010, 01:19:32 PM
Quote:
"I'm trying to stay busy and not think about it," Kiirsi Hellewell, Susan Powell's best friend"
end


That says everything.. ::MonkeyNoNo::
A bunch of Ostriches.




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: suzyinpgh on September 07, 2010, 01:53:35 PM
Josh's sister was on GMA too and she said she believes that Josh had something to do with Susan's disappearance.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 07, 2010, 05:18:06 PM
Long shot....but we know he drove hundreds of miles in that rental car....

Female human remains have been found buried apx. 95 miles from Josh's daddy's house in Cle Elum WA --- that's apx. 770 miles from West Valley City UT... straight up the route he would most likely drive to Daddy's. Probably not her, because the ground would have been frozen back in December...no?

Posted on September 7, 2010 at 12:41 PM

CLE ELUM, Wash. – Kittitas County detectives are investigating human remains found near a golf course near Cle Elum.

A backhoe operator uncovered the remains Monday morning buried on Suncadia Resort property.

The Kittitas County Sheriff's Office says the remains appear to be of a female. She was buried 18-to-24 inches below the surface. It's unknown how long the body has been there or how old the female was.

Missing persons cases are being compiled as part of the investigation.

A press conference is scheduled for Tuesday afternoon.

http://www.king5.com/news/local/human-remains-Suncadia-Resort-golf-course-102371819.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Leroy on September 08, 2010, 07:47:20 AM
they are doing an update on this case on GMA right now

Hey Leroy!   ::MonkeyDance::

Hey Trimm!  Good to see ya! 

I was happy to see Susans story being covered again...in my mind, there is no way Josh committed the perfect crime...someday he will break!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 10, 2010, 01:01:47 PM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=12347315
Josh Powell causes stir trying to get involved in son's school
September 8th, 2010 @ 5:49pm
By Paul Nelson
PUYALLUP, Wash. -- The husband of missing West Valley City woman Susan Powell is trying to get involved in his son's school by joining the PTA -- but this decision isn't sitting well with other parents in the school.

Parents like David Quantrell say they don't want Josh Powell on the PTA of Carson Elementary in Puyallup, Wash., where Josh has lived with his sons since early 2010.

"I've seen him around and he, quite frankly, just gives me the creeps," Quantrell said.

Quantrell admits he does not know what led to Susan Powell's Dec. 7 disappearance, or if Josh Powell had anything to do with it. But Josh is the only person of interest in the case, and Quantrell doesn't believe Powell is cooperating with investigators.

"I've talked to quite a few other parents. We're thinking about starting a petition [to bar Powell]," Quantrell said.

Attempts to contact Powell by reporters have not been successful.

The Carson Elementary PTA president sent a statement saying, "Our PTA membership is open to anyone who would like to join and is interested in helping all the children of Carson Elementary reach their full potential. All of our volunteers are required to complete the background check through the school district before volunteering."

E-mail: pnelson@ksl.com


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 10, 2010, 02:36:45 PM
Vanished: Susan Powell's Husband Scrutnized by His Own Family

The Trail Grows Cold Eight Months After Mom Disappeared While Josh Powell Was on Mysterious Camping Trip


By ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, MAUREEN WHITE and SARAH NETTER
Sept. 7, 2010


The husband of missing Utah mother Susan Powell maintains his wife simply walked away from her family, even as his own sister said she's "quite convinced" he was involved in her disappearance.

"Has he kidnapped her, holding her somewhere? Has he killed her?" Josh Powell's sister, Jennifer Graves, asked. "Who knows?"

Eight months after Susan Powell disappeared from the couple's West Valley City home, her husband -- who provided a bizarre alibi about a winter midnight camping trip with his toddlers -- continues to fend off accusations from her family and his own.

Kirk Graves, Jennifer's husband and Josh Powell's brother-in-law, said his behavior after Susan Powell disappeared was telling.

"Josh's reaction was, don't talk to anybody, be of no help -- not even family. Just get out," he said.

Josh Powell has not been charged in the case and police have yet to make any arrests.


The family who supports him -- namely his father Steven -- maintains that the negative comments toward him are religiously motivated, that the Mormon church that Susan Powell was so deeply involved with has organized to attack him.

In a statement to ABC News, Steven Powell argued that his son has done everything to help police find the mother of his children even as Josh Powell's sister and brother-in-law claim he's done little but push her family and the police away.

"Clearly, we think Susan decided to leave," Steven Powell wrote. "This has little to do with Josh because their marriage was basically normal. There is no evidence to the contrary."


"Although (Susan's parents) would like the public to believe otherwise ... most of the time it was a happy and stable relationship," Steven Powell continued. "However, Susan had an occasional tendency to lose control."

It's a characterization of the 28-year-old mother that her friends say is completely untrue.

"They would get in fights and talk about divorce and she would say. 'I'm going to take the kids,'" Susan Powell's close friend Kiirsi Hellewell said. "And he would say, "No. Over my dead body.'"

Graves said her brother was controlling and watched over his wife carefully.

"He controlled the money, the car," she said. "He wouldn't let her go to activities and things without his approval."

Susan Powell was last seen Dec. 6. She went to bed early, but Josh Powell said he bundled up the boys, then 4 and 3, on the cold winter night and took them camping around midnight to a campsite about two hours away.

When they returned, Susan Powell was gone. Police found her purse and keys in the house and, strangely, two fans drying a wet spot on the living room floor.


Susan Powell's Father Warns: 'We Are Not Going to Quit'
Powell, who was still out with the boys when a daycare provider realized the family was nowhere to be found, was reached on his cell phone and told to come home.

He was questioned by police, but that information, along with other forensic evidence, have been sealed. Powell has told local media outlets of his middle-of-the-night trip that "we were just going to do s'mores."

Graves said it's hard to think that her own brother may have kidnapped or killed his wife.


"But you have to remember that she was my sister and she's gone. She's my friend. Where is she?" Graves said. "I haven't seen her for eight months."

Susan Powell's father said he's equally convinced his daughter's husband is guilty.


"It's our understanding from hearing it from three sources that Josh was not going to give up the children. That he would cause her physical bodily harm," Chuck Cox said. "She feared for her physical safety."

Josh Powell is now living 900 miles away from West Valley City in Puyallup, Wash., with his father.

"I think whoever is responsible needs to realize that we are not going to quit. And it's not going to stop until the truth is known," Cox said. "And anybody who doesn't believe that is not being real. So come forward."
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/vanished-susan-powells-husband-denies-involvement-wifes-disappearance/story?id=11573019&page=1


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 10, 2010, 02:37:57 PM
Josh is trying to pull a 'Drew Peterson' ........ POS


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: akmom on September 10, 2010, 03:54:42 PM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=12347315
Josh Powell causes stir trying to get involved in son's school
September 8th, 2010 @ 5:49pm
By Paul Nelson
PUYALLUP, Wash. -- The husband of missing West Valley City woman Susan Powell is trying to get involved in his son's school by joining the PTA -- but this decision isn't sitting well with other parents in the school.

Parents like David Quantrell say they don't want Josh Powell on the PTA of Carson Elementary in Puyallup, Wash., where Josh has lived with his sons since early 2010.

"I've seen him around and he, quite frankly, just gives me the creeps," Quantrell said.

Quantrell admits he does not know what led to Susan Powell's Dec. 7 disappearance, or if Josh Powell had anything to do with it. But Josh is the only person of interest in the case, and Quantrell doesn't believe Powell is cooperating with investigators.

"I've talked to quite a few other parents. We're thinking about starting a petition [to bar Powell]," Quantrell said.

Attempts to contact Powell by reporters have not been successful.

The Carson Elementary PTA president sent a statement saying, "Our PTA membership is open to anyone who would like to join and is interested in helping all the children of Carson Elementary reach their full potential. All of our volunteers are required to complete the background check through the school district before volunteering."

E-mail: pnelson@ksl.com


IT IS JUST FINE with me if he gets dogged and is not allowed to have a "normal life".  Susan doesn't have a normal life.  He is a worthless sniveling coward.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on September 12, 2010, 01:44:43 PM
since josh is going to let the 5yr old go to school,and not home school him,
im guessing josh is comfortable, with what the boys do or do not remember
about,the nite they left the house, and what ever happened during the nite,
camp,smores, drive to from ect.
at some point another child is going to ask, just because kids are that way,
there might even be an adult, that would ask too in a round about way.
or it could come up, like this, draw me a pic of what you did during the
summer, some kid, shows his of a camping trip, then the boy might say something
about his winter camp trip, you never know, what a kid will say


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on September 12, 2010, 01:45:50 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700064576/Family-of-Susan-Powell-still-angry-at-actions-of-missing-womans-husband.html

Family of Susan Powell still angry at actions of missing woman's husband
Published: Saturday, Sept. 11, 2010 12:06 a.m. MDT By Pat Reavy, Deseret News

Page:1 2 Next >
pg1
WEST VALLEY CITY — Chuck Cox has not seen his grandchildren since April 10, even though they live just three miles away with their father, Josh Powell.

Cox, father of Susan Cox Powell, 28, the West Valley mother of two missing since Dec. 7, 2009, has attempted to e-mail Josh Powell, the only form of communication Powell told Cox that he wanted to have.

But after a meeting in a park in Puyallup, Wash., in April to see the two grandchildren — 5-year-old Charlie and 3-year-old Braden — Josh Powell has stopped replying to Cox's e-mails.

Cox said Friday he would like Josh Powell to be "totally innocent." But to Cox and his wife, Judy, and to many other members of Susan Powell's family, Powell's story of what happened at the time of his wife's disappearance is "so unbelievable."

"He doesn't have any good answers for me," Cox said.

Josh Powell says he took his two boys camping in the middle of the night on Dec. 6 to a remote area of Tooele County. When he returned the next day to his house, 6254 W. Sarah Circle, his wife was gone. Police say Powell has not been forthcoming in his answers with them and refuses to be interviewed by detectives again. Because of that, he remains the only person of interest in the case.

Friday, Chuck Cox visited Utah to support Ed Smart and others participating in the "Ride for Their Lives" campaign, bringing awareness to missing and murdered children. Although Susan Powell was not a child, Smart wore a button with a picture of Susan's face as he rode his bike from Springville to Salt Lake City Friday, reminding people that she is still missing.

Chuck Cox said there have been at least two incidents concerning Josh Powell's behavior that have angered him. One occurred in December when a vigil was held for Susan Powell in her hometown of Puyallup, Wash. Josh Powell showed up after the vigil had ended but did not speak to his father-in-law. The next day, the media reported that Josh Powell had attended the vigil.

"No he didn't. He showed up afterwards so he could say he was at the vigil," an angered Cox said Friday. "It just makes no sense to me."

The second incident occurred recently when media outlets in Washington reported that Powell was trying to join his children's PTA.

"Why would he do that? Are you trying to show you're a good father? Is that what you're trying to do?" Cox asked.

"He needs to get involved in finding his wife," Judy Cox continued. "Was she important to him? He's not showing any attention in helping her."

"Why worry about the PTA?" Cox continued. "Why not go to the police and tell them what you know? It makes no sense at all. Or maybe he doesn't care about her."

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700064576/Family-of-Susan-Powell-still-angry-at-actions-of-missing-womans-husband.html?pg=2
Page:1 2 Next >
pg2
Josh Powell's father, Steve Powell, sent an e-mail to ABC News earlier this week claiming that Susan left her family and that she had displayed the "occasional tendency to lose control."

"It's ridiculous. I don't know where he got that from," Cox said. "It's a clear attempt to deflect attention away from the real answer."

At the beginning of the year, Chuck and Judy Cox decided, after weeks of not seeing their grandchildren, to drive by Josh Powell's home. They spotted him playing with their grandchildren at a nearby park and stopped by to say hello. Josh Powell, however, told Cox he was uncomfortable with him driving in his neighborhood and said he would have to contact him by e-mail to arrange a time to see the grandchildren, according to Cox.

"He basically said to make an appointment and not stop by," he said.

When Chuck and Judy Cox got to see the two boys, they didn't say much about their mother.

"We believe they probably don't know much of anything," he said.

Cox said he told Josh Powell in an e-mail that he didn't agree with anything Josh Powell was saying on a website he created in February, allegedly in an attempt to find Susan. It was about that time, Cox said, Powell stopped responding to his e-mails.

Last week marked nine months since Susan Powell disappeared. Chuck Cox said he believes West Valley police are still actively working the case and investigating every lead and tip. But he says the best way to describe the way he's feeling about the case now is "impatient."

"They took scads of evidence from the house. They've interviewed people. They've done a lot of investigating. Somewhere in there the answer has to be, 'When is this going to end?' " he said.

West Valley police still call the Cox family at least once a week to update them on the investigation.

"They're making progress everyday," he said.

Cox said for now, the family just needs to be patient.

"We know no one gets away with anything. Heavenly Father knows everything," he said. "Faith sustains us a lot."

Cox family members still see Josh Powell around Puyallup from time to time, but greetings are rarely, if ever, exchanged.

On Sunday, Chuck and Judy Cox will hold a support gathering at the Hunter LDS Stake Center, 3930 S. 6000 West, to let the public know they appreciate the support they've received. Cox regularly visits the Friends and Family of Susan Powell Facebook page to see if anyone has a tip or just to read the messages of support.

"The more supporters we have, the more people there are handing out fliers," Chuck Cox said.

With hunting season coming up, friends and family of Susan Powell hope to have new wallet-sized cards made up with Susan's picture for hunters to carry with them as they scour Utah's wilderness.

Anyone with information on the case can call West Valley police at 801-840-4000.





Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 13, 2010, 11:35:09 AM
SNIPPED FROM ABOVE>>>>

"With hunting season coming up, friends and family of Susan Powell hope to have new wallet-sized cards made up with Susan's picture for hunters to carry with them as they scour Utah's wilderness."

 :2doh: :2brickwall: (http://bestsmileys.com/frustrated/7.gif)

omg, I can't help it...


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Edward on September 14, 2010, 12:38:35 PM
God helps people that help themselves and never required any living soul to be stupid in there love for God.
God has not murdered Susan.. A living Human Being has.


Quote :
Josh Powell's father, Steve Powell, sent an e-mail to ABC News earlier this week claiming that Susan left her family and that she had displayed the "occasional tendency to lose control."
end

Reminds me of some other parents we have come across in recent years.
In this case is far beyond stuck on stupid. This parent is acting out as the same as Scott Petersons parents.

I wonder if this father helped to bury his daughter in law..

One more thing... These children eventually grow up !!
In time ALL of these in-laws will be hated by these children. They will be questioned and found guilty in these children's eyes for the murder of their mother.
Josh... Hell will find you. It is coming. 
Steve Powell... You remind me of Casey Anthony's parents.. As well as Scott Peterson.
You better wake up because God is watching and you wont get into Heaven come judgment day..  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 14, 2010, 01:00:10 PM
Woman's body found in Wyoming
Written by: Dan Metcalf Jr.
Last Update: 10:42 am 

LARAMIE, Wyo. (ABC 4 News) - A woman's body has been found near Laramie, Wyoming.

Albany County Sheriff's Office investigators say the body was found on a ranch.

According to investigators, the body belongs to a woman in her 30s, about 5 feet tall with short, light brown hair.

Police believe the body has been there for at least 6 to 12 months.

Albany County spokeman, Lt. Garcia, told ABC 4 News that the body was found on September 9th 14 miles northeast of Laramie on the Warren Livestock Ranch by a sheep herder.

The body is of a woman, 30 to 40 years old, 5'2 - 5'3 inches tall with light brown chin-length hair.
 
Garcia said that the body may have been on the ranch since last fall or winter or possibly even spring, and that there was nothing found with the body that could to identify her.

Garcia  said that no cause of death has been determined, and the Albany County Sheriff's Office was being assisted by the Air Force base in Cheyenne along with the University of Wyoming.

Investigators hope to identify the body using dental records, which could take 2-6 weeks.

ABC 4 has learned that Wyoming authorities are in contact with West Valley City police, because of the Susan Cox Powell investigation.
Susan has been missing since Sunday December 7, 2009. Friends and co-workers reported her missing the next day when she did not show for work.

Her husband Josh told investigators he had been on a camping trip with the couple's two young sons on the night of the 7th when her returned to their West Valley City home on Monday December 8th.

Josh Powell has been named a person of interest by investigators. He has since moved to Washington with the couple's two sons.

Several search efforts have been concentrated in the West Desert area of Tooele County, where Josh Powell claimed to have been camping with his sons on the night of Susan's disappearance.

Stay tuned to ABC 4 News and ABC4.com for more on this story.
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/Womans-body-found-in-Wyoming/WrbGhGC4oECqpJTZBzIo2Q.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 14, 2010, 01:12:10 PM
apx. 395 miles (one way)

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl&q=West%20Valley%20City%20UT%20to%20Laramie%20Wy


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 14, 2010, 01:14:54 PM
Woman's body found NE of Laramie
September 14th, 2010 @ 10:47am
LARAMIE, Wyo. -- A woman's body was found 14 miles northeast of Laramie, Wyo.

The Albany County Sheriff's Office says the Caucasian woman was between 30 and 40 years old and about 5 feet, 2 inches tall. She had light brown hair 3 to 4 inches long. Investigators say the woman died sometime between last fall and this past spring.

The remains were found Sept. 9 on a remote part of the Warren Livestock Ranch. Lt. Michael Garcia with the Albany County Sheriff's Office says the area where the body was found is not heavily traveled.

He told KSL the sheriff's office is aware of the Susan Powell case. Powell, the West Valley City mother who was reported missing Dec. 7, could fit the description of this body found in Wyoming. Garcia said, at this point, they can only say they have no idea who the woman is and are waiting for dental records, which could take two to six weeks to get. Once they have those, they hope to have solid leads on the case.

Meanwhile, West Valley City police Sgt. Mike Powell says his department is aware of the case in Wyoming and the department has not been contacted by Wyoming authorities about the Susan Powell disappearance.

The woman isn't believed to have been reported missing from Laramie or Albany County.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=12422282


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Edward on September 14, 2010, 02:16:46 PM
apx. 395 miles (one way)

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl&q=West%20Valley%20City%20UT%20to%20Laramie%20Wy

5.5 HOURS one way....
He was back in just 11 hours or so...
Very possible.
Thanks Nut44x4

 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 14, 2010, 05:05:08 PM
Is Body Found on Wyoming Sheep Ranch Missing Mom Susan Powell?
Wyoming Police Find Remains of a Woman, But It Could Take Weeks to Identify

(Dental records shouldn't take weeks :roll: )



Police Working to Determine if Body Found on Wyoming Ranch Is Missing Mom Susan Powell

"A lot of bodies have been found in the past nine months. If there's a remote possibility, we make contact with the agency that found the body and send any relevant information," said Sgt. Mike Powell, spokesman for the West Valley City Police Department.

Powell said his department had as recently as last week been in touch with a Washington state police department about a body found there.   *(I posted about this one on the previous page)

"It would be a mistake to go crazy over any particular incident until we had something solid. We are very much aware of this body and have contacted Laramie," he said.

Garcia said no one matching the description of the woman has gone missing from the Laramie area.

"The next step is to positively identify the body and determine if someone reported missing fits that description," he said.

Garcia said police departments around the country will send his office dental records and other information about women missing from those areas. The woman will likely be identified through her dental records, he said.

"A lot of families out there are missing loved ones," Garcia said. "We don't want to give anyone false hope."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/police-determine-body-wyoming-missing-mom-susan-powell/story?id=11635580&page=2



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 14, 2010, 05:55:43 PM
Aproximately 6 hours each way, according to abcnews.

So, instead of camping the night and day, he drove there and back.

How come nobody put him somewhere else, other than the camping site? He had to get gasoline somewhere, or use a restroom.

I wonder if he took the kids or not, IF THAT BODY IS HERS.

In order to know where to drop a body and not be found for awhile, he had to have been in the area before, unless he drove and drove until he found the place.

Just weird.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 14, 2010, 06:43:24 PM
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/39177561/ns/local_news-seattle_wa/
Body found matches description of missing Utah woman
September 14, 2010

 SEATTLE - Police have contacted Susan Powell's family in Puyallup after a woman's body was found in Wyoming.

The body has not been identified, but a spokesperson for Susan Cox Powell's family told KING 5 the body has similarities to Powell's description. Investigators say the woman is in her 30s, about five feet tall with short, light brown hair.

Powell was last seen in her Utah home in December 2009.

Her husband reported her missing after he told police he took their two children out for a midnight camping trip. Josh Powell said when he returned, Susan was not at the house.

Josh Powell has been named a person of interest by investigators and has since moved to Washington state with the couple's two sons.

Shelby Gifford, the Powell family spokesperson, said since December relatives have been contacted "seven to eight times" by police who have found unidentified bodies.

“There really is no good outcome when the phone rings,” said Gifford.

Gifford said loved ones are holding out hope that Susan is still alive.

It could be several weeks before the Wyoming remains are identified.

The family was also contacted when an unidentified woman’s remains were found near the Suncadia resort last week.

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http://www.fox13now.com/news/local/kstu-body-woman-found-wyoming,0,5042122.story
(Video)
Body of woman matching description of Susan Powell found in Wyoming
September 14, 2010

LARAMIE, Wyo. - Investigators in Wyoming are trying to identify a woman's body found on a ranch northeast of Laramie. Detectives say it appears she died sometime between last fall and this spring. The description of the woman found is similar to that of missing West Valley City woman, Susan Cox Powell, a family spokesperson tells FOX 13 News. Powell has been missing since December of 2009.

The body was found last Thursday, Sept. 9. The Albany County Sheriff's Office says the woman is between 30 and 40 years old, about 5 feet 3 inches tall, with light brown hair.
FOX 13 has contacted the West Valley Police Department, who says they are working with Wyoming officials on the case.

The Albany County Sheriff's Office says they do not believe the woman is from the Wyoming area.

Local authorities say working with Wyoming detectives on this case is standard protocol and they are not going to jump to any conclusions. They are now proceeding with caution on this case.

"We're not going to release a lot until we can identify this lady and we're not going to speculate who she is or anything like that because we don't want to give families any type of false hope," said Albany County Sheriff's Lt. Michael Garcia.

A Susan Cox Powell family spokesperson says, the thought that this could be her has crossed their minds.

"On the surface of course it matches Susan's description we are in a possession where we know law enforcement is aware, we know West Valley P.D. is aware and now we just have to play a waiting game," said Shelby Gifford, Susan Cox Powell family spokesperson. "Wow hard it that? It's really hard. It's indescribable. On one hand with every news you get, it's not bringing you closure, if it is Susan that's devastating. If it's not we still don't know what happened."

Investigators are working on identifying the body. They will use dental records to identify the woman, and investigators say it could take anywhere between two to six weeks.

Gifford says they have been through this time and time again, about eight times.

Susan Cox Powell went missing on Dec. 7, 2009. Her husband Josh Powell said he took his sons on a midnight camping trip and returned home later that morning to discover that Susan had disappeared. He moved to Washington State with his two young sons earlier this year.
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http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20425998,00.html
Body Found 'Generally Matches' Missing Susan Powell
September 14, 2010

For Susan Cox Powell's family, the discovery of a woman's body of about the same age and size of the missing Utah woman offers little, if any, comfort or closure.

"We have been through this process several times with other bodies and it's more difficult each time," family spokeswoman Shelby Gifford tells PEOPLE.

The body was found Sept. 9 on a remote Wyoming ranch about 400 miles from Powell's hometown of West Valley City, Utah, and "generally matches" her description: a woman in her 30s about 5 feet tall with short, brown hair, according to the Albany County (Wyo.) Sheriff's Office.

"On the one hand, we don't want to get the call saying Susan's body has been found," adds Gifford about the mother of two who has been missing for nine months. "On the other hand, we feel so deeply for the families whose missing loved ones are identified. And if the body is not Susan, at the end of the day, we still don't know where Susan is or what happened to her. It's a no-win situation."

Wyoming authorities have been in contact with Utah police, Lt. Michael Garcia tells PEOPLE, and officials hope to identify the body with dental records, which may take up to four weeks. No cause of death has been determined.

Police investigating Powell's case have questioned her husband Joshua, whose alibi and level of cooperation has raised some eyebrows.

Joshua would only tell police he took his two young sons on a midnight camping trip on Dec. 6, the night his wife, 28, disappeared and has since refused to retrace his route.

For 24 hours, Powell's whereabouts were unknown and law enforcement sources said a car he rented two days after Susan was reported missing was returned with several hundred miles on the odometer and without any GPS data.
Husband a "Person of Interest"
Susan's family has alleged the couple's nine-year relationship "was adversarial" and that at on at least one occasion Joshua became physically abusive, Cox family spokesperson Shelby Gifford said in June. His father and brother deny the allegations.

The couple also reportedly argued over their financial problems and friends urged her to get a divorce.

Joshua has hired a criminal attorney, who says his client has not hindered the investigation as police have suggested.

West Valley City police are still investigating Powell's case and "working all new leads," says Sgt. Mike Powell. "[Josh] is still a person of interest and that's about all I can say. We're still actively working on resolving the case."


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: nicubird on September 14, 2010, 10:38:35 PM
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/102911044.html
 ::monkeyscissors::

Sheriff: Body found in Wyoming not Susan Powell


LARAMIE, Wyo. -- Authorities have determined the remains that were found in Wyoming are not those of Susan Powell, a Puyallup native who disappeared Dec. 7 from her Utah home.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 14, 2010, 10:41:57 PM
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/102911044.html
 ::monkeyscissors::

Sheriff: Body found in Wyoming not Susan Powell


LARAMIE, Wyo. -- Authorities have determined the remains that were found in Wyoming are not those of Susan Powell, a Puyallup native who disappeared Dec. 7 from her Utah home.



Thank you for the update.  I hope Susan Powell can be found soon.  Prayers for the woman whose remains were found.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 14, 2010, 11:00:46 PM
God dangit!!!

The distance was "doable" by his account.

OMG! doable is an actual word.

Anyway, she will be found some day. I just hope her POS husband won't get away with it.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 23, 2010, 11:23:17 PM
Great pic of Susan & kids....thanks Trimm      I so hope she is found soon, the poor kids, no telling what kind of insanity they have to live in with their father.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on September 24, 2010, 08:33:27 AM
susan doesnt have her wedding ring on
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7013.msg1229185#msg1229185

anyone know a date on that pic,and the ones below,

she does here
http://tinyurl.com/28dkzlc

http://tinyurl.com/29j4l34

http://www.newprophecy.net/Susan_Powell_1_large-2.jpg

i think she does in this one
http://newsblaze.com/pix/2009/1220/pix/Joshua-and-Susan-Powell.230.jpg

http://tinyurl.com/23uf5jk

*BLOCKED*/media/thumbnails/hyperlink/2009-12/51033428-11174755.jpg

havent searched all these yet
http://photobucket.com/images/susan%20powell/


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 26, 2010, 11:46:40 AM
susan doesnt have her wedding ring on
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7013.msg1229185#msg1229185

anyone know a date on that pic,and the ones below,

she does here
http://tinyurl.com/28dkzlc

http://tinyurl.com/29j4l34

http://www.newprophecy.net/Susan_Powell_1_large-2.jpg

i think she does in this one
http://newsblaze.com/pix/2009/1220/pix/Joshua-and-Susan-Powell.230.jpg

http://tinyurl.com/23uf5jk

*BLOCKED*/media/thumbnails/hyperlink/2009-12/51033428-11174755.jpg

havent searched all these yet
http://photobucket.com/images/susan%20powell/

cw618,I found the photo of Susan and her boys at this link.I don't see a date on the photo,sorry.
http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_162-5978124-9.html?tag=page


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 26, 2010, 12:02:31 PM
cw618,Several of the photos posted at the CBS link http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_162-5978124-9.html?tag=page  come from Hardman Photography.
Here is their Facebook link.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Layton-UT/Hardman-Photography/112554423811?v=photos


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 28, 2010, 04:45:48 PM
http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/california-schwarzenegger-signs-bill-to-improve-search-for-missing-children
California: Schwarzenegger signs bill to improve search for missing children
September 26th, 2010 2:44 am ET
CALIFORNIA - Among dozens of bills signed into law by Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger Friday was the package of missing-persons bills.

The package of missing-persons bills signed by Schwarzenegger was championed by Moe Dubois, the father of 14-year-old Amber Dubois, one of two teenagers killed in San Diego County by convicted sex offender John Albert Gardner, III.

There have been complaints of police not responding appropriately when a child is reported missing.

AB 33 will improve police training in missing-persons cases and will allow law enforcement agencies to obtain and better use a list of registered sex offenders when a child is reported abducted by a stranger.
LA Times reported that the measure was written by Assemblyman Pedro Nava (D-Santa Barbara), who also authored AB 34, a related bill signed by the governor that requires the state Violent Crime Information Center to share information on cases with the National Missing and Unidentified Persons System.

Missing persons a growing national problem

Missing persons is a growing national, and international problem that has impacted not only families, but entire communities.

On a mission to spread the word about missing persons, and to help change laws, Ed Smart and Ahmad Rivazfar joined together in a bicycle ride across the United States, “Ride for their lives.”

One of their stops was in Salt Lake City where they met up with families grieving the loss of their loved ones who have gone missing.
Supporters bicycled across the U.S. from August 21 through September 22.

While in Salt Lake City, Smart and Rivazfar met up with Chuck and Judy Cox, parents of Susan Cox Powell. Susan is the 28-year-old Puyallup, Wash., native who went missing from her West Valley City, Utah, home in early December 2009.

Supporters of Susan and others concerned about the issue were also in attendance, as were parents hoping to protect their children from becoming victims.

Governor Gary Herbert began to cry as he spoke, saying this issue is very important to him. He said he grasped a tiny inkling of what these parents feel when their children go missing. His own daughter went missing for a few days this summer.
Gov. Herbert declared September 10, 2010, as “Ride for Their Lives Day” in Utah

Click here for "Ed Smart, Chuck Cox, and others meet at Utah's capitol to remember the missing".  http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/ed-smart-chuck-cox-and-others-meet-at-utah-s-capitol-to-remember-the-missing-slideshow


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 04, 2010, 04:11:15 PM
Volunteers Search Abandoned Mines for Missing Utah Mother

Published October 04, 2010
| FoxNews.com
A group of volunteers has begun searching abandoned mines for any trace of a Utah mother who disappeared from a Salt Lake City suburb almost a year ago, Fox13now.com reports.

Susan Powell, of West Valley City, Utah, was reported missing on Dec. 7, 2009, after she failed to show up to her job as a stockbroker for Wells Fargo Financial.

The volunteer group, Mojave Underground Utah, is now assisting in the search for her by exploring abandoned mines in Dugway and Eureka, Utah, according to the station.

The group's efforts, however, have been met with controversy because the searches are reportedly being conducted without the approval of state or local authorities. The Utah Division of Oil, Gas and Mining has also declared the searching of abandoned mines a public safety hazard, saying the mines are unstable.

more here........the link is locking me up.......

http://networks.org/?src=fox:us:2010:10:04:volunteers-search-abandoned-mines-missing-utah-mother


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on October 06, 2010, 12:17:43 PM
Volunteers Search Abandoned Mines for Missing Utah Mother

Published October 04, 2010
| FoxNews.com
A group of volunteers has begun searching abandoned mines for any trace of a Utah mother who disappeared from a Salt Lake City suburb almost a year ago, Fox13now.com reports.

Susan Powell, of West Valley City, Utah, was reported missing on Dec. 7, 2009, after she failed to show up to her job as a stockbroker for Wells Fargo Financial.

The volunteer group, Mojave Underground Utah, is now assisting in the search for her by exploring abandoned mines in Dugway and Eureka, Utah, according to the station.

The group's efforts, however, have been met with controversy because the searches are reportedly being conducted without the approval of state or local authorities. The Utah Division of Oil, Gas and Mining has also declared the searching of abandoned mines a public safety hazard, saying the mines are unstable.

more here........the link is locking me up.......

http://networks.org/?src=fox:us:2010:10:04:volunteers-search-abandoned-mines-missing-utah-mother

I have always believed that a mine was involved. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on October 07, 2010, 08:09:59 PM
Volunteers Search Abandoned Mines for Missing Utah Mother

Published October 04, 2010
| FoxNews.com
A group of volunteers has begun searching abandoned mines for any trace of a Utah mother who disappeared from a Salt Lake City suburb almost a year ago, Fox13now.com reports.

Susan Powell, of West Valley City, Utah, was reported missing on Dec. 7, 2009, after she failed to show up to her job as a stockbroker for Wells Fargo Financial.

The volunteer group, Mojave Underground Utah, is now assisting in the search for her by exploring abandoned mines in Dugway and Eureka, Utah, according to the station.

The group's efforts, however, have been met with controversy because the searches are reportedly being conducted without the approval of state or local authorities. The Utah Division of Oil, Gas and Mining has also declared the searching of abandoned mines a public safety hazard, saying the mines are unstable.

more here........the link is locking me up.......

http://networks.org/?src=fox:us:2010:10:04:volunteers-search-abandoned-mines-missing-utah-mother

I have always believed that a mine was involved. 

Just heard one of her boys told someone "Mommy is in the mine looking for crystals" ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: I want to see that POS pyscho hubs of hers go down ASAP


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on October 07, 2010, 09:07:53 PM
Volunteers Search Abandoned Mines for Missing Utah Mother

Published October 04, 2010
| FoxNews.com
A group of volunteers has begun searching abandoned mines for any trace of a Utah mother who disappeared from a Salt Lake City suburb almost a year ago, Fox13now.com reports.

Susan Powell, of West Valley City, Utah, was reported missing on Dec. 7, 2009, after she failed to show up to her job as a stockbroker for Wells Fargo Financial.

The volunteer group, Mojave Underground Utah, is now assisting in the search for her by exploring abandoned mines in Dugway and Eureka, Utah, according to the station.

The group's efforts, however, have been met with controversy because the searches are reportedly being conducted without the approval of state or local authorities. The Utah Division of Oil, Gas and Mining has also declared the searching of abandoned mines a public safety hazard, saying the mines are unstable.

more here........the link is locking me up.......

http://networks.org/?src=fox:us:2010:10:04:volunteers-search-abandoned-mines-missing-utah-mother

I have always believed that a mine was involved. 

Just heard one of her boys told someone "Mommy is in the mine looking for crystals" ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: I want to see that POS pyscho hubs of hers go down ASAP

I heard that tonight as well, specifically the police have been searching old silver mines.  There must have been something they found specific to a silver mine in testing the car and his clothes that would lead them in that direction.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on October 08, 2010, 02:28:20 PM
Missing Mom Susan Powell's Son: "Mommy's in the Mine"

In an explosive new development in the Susan Cox Powell case, the missing Utah mom's four-year-old son reportedly said, "Mommy's in the mine, looking for crystals." The boy reportedly made the statement after his mom went missing in Dec. 2009, but it wasn't made public until now.
Police are searching abandoned mine shafts near Powell's home. Adding to the intrigue: according to a report on CNN's Nancy Grace Show, airing Oct. 7, Powell's husband, Josh, once told a friend that a mineshaft would be the best place to dispose of a body.

A 28-year-old stockbroker and mom, Susan Cox Powell went missing from her home on December 7, 2009. On the night she disappeared, her husband claims he took their two sons, ages four and two, camping overnight in the West Deserts of Utah, where temperatures were freezing.
As part of their search efforts, teams are dropping cameras into two silver mineshafts 20 to 50 miles away from the area Josh Powell claims he took his sons camping. These mines are at least half a mile deep.

According to Chuck Cox, Susan's father, Susan and Josh were having marital problems shortly before she disappeared. They seemed to be on the way to patching things up - Josh had begun attending church with Susan again - but "right now in the wake of everything," Cox said, "we`re not sure that it wasn`t just a show." Cox also said that Joshua Powell is preventing his children from having any contact with their grandfather.

Also revealed on the CNN show: Powell, an avid fan of crime shows, is alleged to have told a friend at a 2008 Christmas party that the perfect hiding place for a body would be a deep mineshaft.


http://www.opposingviews.com/i/missing-mom-susan-powell-s-son-mommy-s-in-the-mine


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on October 08, 2010, 08:42:09 PM

snip from
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/missing-mom-susan-powell-s-son-mommy-s-in-the-mine
As part of their search efforts, teams are dropping cameras into two silver mineshafts 20 to 50 miles away from the area Josh Powell claims he took his sons camping. These mines are at least half a mile deep.

thought i would bring this over just in case, now that they are activley searching
winter is coming so sad

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trimm i think i had mentioned b4 that the owners of the mines, in utah an elsewhere
would not be receptive to outsiders, i know a few, and they are protective of their
claims, has to do with GOLD, not people missing, sometimes it takes yrs for the owner
to get back to their claim. it is said that the blm has workers that sorta oversee theses
 claims for a fee, a fee off the blm payroll of course, and once a mine has been
back filled, it is a difficult task,$$$ and labor to undo safely
the seachers would be better off checking this and talk to the claim owner

http://www.geocommunicator.gov/GeoComm/index.shtm
http://www.geocommunicator.gov/blmMap/Map.jsp?MAP=MC
http://www.geocommunicator.gov/GeoComm/reference/NILS_GC_How_to_use_guide_LSIS_2007.pdf


not sure if any monkeys are helping in the searches or talk to the searchers
sorry i forgot a link for the above map system

A. choose state/utah
B.choose county/Tooele
C. choose all forests
click search, you get a list of claims, click the heading { more info } will give the name of the owner, if you click the blue i, it will located on the map

claim search
http://www.geocommunicator.gov/blmMap/mining_claim_search.faces

how to use
http://www.geocommunicator.gov/GeoComm/reference/NILS_GC_How_to_use_guide_LSIS_2007.pdf

you can click heading [ reports] for owner info name, addy, ect.
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above post located here
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6666.msg1204804#msg1204804


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 09, 2010, 12:56:41 PM
Thanks cw618.Those links are interesting stuff.You can spend quite a bit of time going through those.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on October 09, 2010, 01:19:08 PM
Thanks cw618.Those links are interesting stuff.You can spend quite a bit of time going through those.


just thought of something, wonder if josh bought a mine or set a claim
if he dumped her in a mine, it would take a lot of research, in locating
the mine, and if the mine is not operated anymore ect.
did the LE ever take josh puter i wonder
going to have to read the article again on the conversation josh had
about the mines


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on October 09, 2010, 06:03:26 PM
i went and looked for abandoned mine.claims
from
http://www.geocommunicator.gov/blmMap/Map.jsp?MAP=MC

and have not checked the owner/previous owner ect.,info
the tunnels in the jpg are the closest i seen on map, to the
camp and are about 60-80 miles from where josh said he camped
if i can find them so can he

side note IDRR, this
Courts records show that the family filed for bankruptcy in 2007.
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/4847729-police-mystified-with-josh-powells-camping-story

JPG


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on October 09, 2010, 11:43:21 PM
I have been looking for silver mines in Toole County.  Found Gold Hill Mine. 
Gold Hill Mine Deep Creek Mountains 40°09'38"N - 113°48'20"W

http://www.mindat.org/photo-175621.html

some images of the mine and town from 2001.  There were 10 people living there in 2001 and from the link above if there are tourists that just go and dig it would seem that anyone can get near the shafts. 

http://www.prospector-utah.com/goldhill.htm


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on October 10, 2010, 12:01:13 AM
BLM mine district sheets for Toole.

Scroll to the bottom and there are image links to the sheets.

http://www.ut.blm.gov/LandRecords/dist_get.cfm?DistrictName=Tooele


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on October 10, 2010, 12:17:06 AM
Maps and GPS locations.  There are so many tiny shaft openings it is scary.

http://www.expertgps.com/data/ut/mines.asp


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on October 10, 2010, 12:25:23 AM
Other mines that have found silver. I have not checked where these are distance wise yet. Just looking for silver producing mines.  I wish I knew the area but I do not so going to post them all.

U.S. Mine Deep Creek Mountains 40°09'25"N - 113°49'50"W
Four Metals Mine Dugway Range 39°59'52"N - 113°11'13"W
Mono-Kearsarge Mine Oquirrh Mountains - Ophir District 40°23'03"N - 112°16'07"W
Black Hawk Mine Sheep Rock Mountains 39°56'44"N - 112°24'04"W
Sultana Mine Sheep Rock Mountains 39°58'32"N - 112°31'15"W

http://www.xmission.com/~jbdaniel/tooele.htm


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on October 10, 2010, 12:39:59 AM
http://www.mindat.org/min-3664.html

Scroll down to very bottom ad zoom in on Utah.  If you click on the red markers it lists the mines that have produced silver



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on October 10, 2010, 12:42:10 AM
Group searches for Susan Powell in abandoned mines

JUAB COUNTY -- A new search is underway for missing West Valley City mom Susan Powell. A group that calls itself "Mojave Underground Utah" is searching abandoned mine shafts near Eureka.

Thursday, volunteers lowered a camera 1,200 feet down to the bottom of an old silver mine in hopes of finding Powell's body.

Their search came up empty, but the group intends to continue its efforts in other abandoned mines in the state, which number near 20,000.

Their method is controversial, however, because they don't have approval from city and state authorities to conduct these searches.

Powell has been missing since last December.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=12748567


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 16, 2010, 02:55:53 PM
Just a thought...

Remains found less than 20 miles from Josh's daddy's home.....Talk of it in Lindsey Baum's thread

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/loca...dwritethru.html
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6224.760


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 16, 2010, 07:38:35 PM
BLOCKED WEBSITE


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on October 17, 2010, 10:05:50 AM
they know its her birthday
http://www.susanpowell.org/Pages/Family/HappyBirthday.aspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: nicubird on October 17, 2010, 11:02:58 AM
Birthday party honors Susan Cox Powell, missing nearly a year

http://www.king5.com/news/local/Birthday-Party-Honor-Missing-Woman-105104904.html

by TRICIA MANNING-SMITH / KING 5 News
Posted on October 16, 2010 at 4:35 PM
Updated yesterday at 6:02 PM

PUYALLUP, Wash. - Family and friends threw a birthday party on Saturday, but the guest of honor was missing.
With tears streaming down his cheeks, John Cox shared the misery his family has endured over the past several months since his granddaughter Susan Cox Powell disappeared.
"We've been close, but I think it's brought us closer because you've got to be together as a family to get through it," said Cox.
The Cox family gathered in Puyallup today to celebrate Susan's 29 birthday.  Her father, Chuck Cox, said a prayer dedicating Susan to God's care, and prayed that any guilty parties connected to the case will be held accountable. Then, Chuck and Judy Cox released balloons in Susan's honor.  A table nearby featured a flower bouquet and a birthday cake with Susan's picture on it.  Her parents opened gifts presented by Susan's friends, including a scrapbook highlighting some of their favorite memories with Susan.
Susan Powell Cox disappeared from her adopted hometown of West Valley City, Utah last December.  No one has been arrested in connection to the case.
"She's watching us.  She knows we showed up," said John Cox, who traveled with his wife Anne, Susan's grandmother, from their home in Battle Ground, WA.
Susan's husband, who now lives in Puyallup with the couple's two young sons, was not present at today's gathering.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 17, 2010, 02:56:40 PM
they know its her birthday
http://www.susanpowell.org/Pages/Family/HappyBirthday.aspx

He probably made that pix himself. Probably never mentioned it was her B-day to her kids. They are not old enough to remember on their own that it's her B-day.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on October 18, 2010, 09:16:29 PM
they know its her birthday
http://www.susanpowell.org/Pages/Family/HappyBirthday.aspx

He probably made that pix himself. Probably never mentioned it was her B-day to her kids. They are not old enough to remember on their own that it's her B-day.

i know nut, it was going to say they know its her birthday, according to this pg
 i just didnt have it in me at the time, ya know,so i let it go


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 19, 2010, 11:45:13 AM
I hate his guts almost as bad as I loathe Drew Peterson  :smt078 and Joran.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Claycat on October 20, 2010, 03:40:02 PM
Wow, I was thinking Zahra might have been put in a mine shaft.  I didn't realize they were searching for Susan Powell in a mineshaft!


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Post by: Claycat on October 20, 2010, 03:44:10 PM
I wish Susan's parents would get the children.


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Post by: cw618 on November 03, 2010, 10:38:19 AM
wonder if the LE checked the cams for dec/09,maybe that should be a standard
procedure in all crime activity related crimes, here is a few links

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=524
http://www.weatherusa.net/skycamnet/listcams.php?state=Utah
http://commuterlink.utah.gov/


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Post by: pink angel on November 05, 2010, 11:15:46 PM
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Post by: cw618 on November 06, 2010, 01:45:10 AM
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Post by: Northern Rose on November 06, 2010, 02:04:22 AM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on November 06, 2010, 09:13:31 AM
This all makes me literally ill. They are so sure her body will not be found and that is a good reason to come out with this garbage now. (Shades of Drew Peterson)


Yeah....I'll clean the carpet before I leave my family, they'll appreciate that...I'll also leave everything I own behind to run off and start a new life. ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!! WTF......how stupid do they think people are??

(http://bestsmileys.com/angry1/5.gif)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on November 07, 2010, 08:09:47 AM
Deseret Morning News (Salt Lake City)
 
November 5, 2010 Friday 
 
Cox family spokeswoman blasts Josh Powell for recent statements
 
SALT LAKE CITY  The Salt Lake Tribune reported Friday that Josh Powell has finally spoken out about the disappearance of his wife, Susan Cox Powell. But a family spokeswoman says Josh's new claims are baseless.

In an interview from his parent's home in Puyallup, Wash., Josh claimed his missing wife is still out there, but he said she won't come home because "she knows she will be chewed up like hamburger when she comes back." Susan Powell disappeared in December 2009 Josh said he believes Susan is unstable, and mental illness drove her away.

A spokeswoman for Susan's family reacted to Josh's comments in an interview with KSL News Friday night. "The notion that Susan would have left like that is absolutely preposterous. There's nobody who knows her who would think for a second that she would leave her children. She may have been unhappy in her marriage, and she may have been willing to leave Josh, but she wouldn't have left her children under any circumstance. If you know the first thing about her, you know that she was a mom first and foremost," Shelby Gifford said. Gifford said the Cox family would be happy if Susan returned today under any circumstance, and she casts doubt on Josh's claims. "The public is going to consider the source in this matter," Gifford said. "If Josh was really concerned about where Susan was, he would have looked for her, he would have interviewed with police, he would have done everything that he could have done to find her; and so far that's not happened." The Tribune article quotes Josh as saying the Cox family needs to be treated as an investigative subject. Still, Josh remains the only one listed as a person of interest in his wife's disappearance. 
http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=100020825&docId=l:1298080252&start=4


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on November 07, 2010, 04:25:36 PM
(http://a.abcnews.com/images/GMA/abc_gma_josh_powell3_101107_mn.jpg)

So the suspect says she is unstable... was she ever evaluated? Is Josh holding a psychologist's degree there somewhere that we don't know about?

Quote
Josh Powell maintained that his wife left on her own, and said that he thinks her worries about what will happen when she comes back have kept her in hiding.

"She knows she will be chewed up like hamburger when she comes back," Powell, who has been accused by his wife's family of involvement in her disappearance, said in an interview with the Salt Lake Tribune.

He said he blames Susan's family for causing her to leave under pressure.

"She can't come back with them treating her this way," Josh Powell told the newspaper. "They want her to be perfect, a saint with no fallibility."


http://abcnews.go.com/US/josh-powell-break-silence-missing-wife-susan/story?id=12080473&page=2



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on November 07, 2010, 06:30:27 PM
IMO -- She wanted OUT.......she wanted her kids and he flipped out and killed her, period. Oh, and his daddy helped him dispose of her remains...or told him how to. HE is the unstable one. So obvious...

This sucks.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: darla on November 07, 2010, 07:01:02 PM
Good Evening....I just heard this BS on the nightly news and can't believe it. If Susan was my daughter, these two SOBS would have a bullet in the brain if they stepped out the door. I would gladly accept the death penalty to know he was not raising my grandchildren.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on November 07, 2010, 07:13:00 PM
I agree.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on November 07, 2010, 08:29:27 PM
Josh says Susan is unstable, OMG look at the crazy eyes that man has. You can't hide crazy eyes Josh  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 08, 2010, 08:44:19 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-susan-powell-fights-back-husbands-accusations/story?id=12084876
Family of Missing Utah Mother Susan Powell Fights Back Against Husband's Accusations
Joshua Powell, a Person of Interest in the Case, Called Missing Wife 'Extremely Unstable'

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By ASHLEIGH BANFIELD and SARAH NETTER
Nov. 8, 2010
Harsh words from the husband of missing Utah mother Susan Powell has her family seething and adamant that she was not mentally ill when she disappeared nearly a year ago.
"It's blatantly untrue," Susan Powell's father, Chuck Cox, told "Good Morning America" today. "It's obviously a self-serving statement. It's untrue, it's all untrue."

Joshua Powell blasted his missing wife and her family in an interview this weekend with the Salt Lake Tribune. He called Susan Powell "extremely unstable" and blamed her family for keeping her in hiding and causing her to leave in the first place.
"She can't come back with them treating her this way," Joshua Powell said. "They want her to be perfect, a saint with no fallibility."

Joshua Powell's sister, Jennifer Graves, said she found her brother's claims that his wife was mentally ill to be ironic.

"In the Powell family, my family, we're the ones with the mental illness, documented," she said, noting that her and Joshua Powell's brother was diagnosed with schizophrenia. "I never saw Susan display symptoms," she said.
Graves, who is estranged from her own family but was close with Susan Powell and the couple's two children, has long maintained that she believes her brother had something to do with his wife's disappearance.

Although Powell is the only person of interest in the case, he said he has been unfairly scrutinized and predicted his wife would be next when she returns.

"She knows she will be chewed up like hamburger when she comes back," he told the Salt Lake Tribune.

And he stuck by his story that his wife disappeared Dec. 6, 2009, while he was out with their young sons on a middle-of-the-night camping trip in the woods during heavy snow and freezing temperatures.

Cox said that, after nearly a year, relatives are preparing themselves for the day his daughter's body might be found, but "we have the hope that she's still alive."

Loved ones get weekly updates from investigators who tell them they are still tracking down leads.
"They tell us the case is progressing," he said.
Joshua Powell's Father Blasts Missing Woman, Calls Her 'Very Sexually Motivated'

Joshua Powell's newspaper interview was the first time he has spoken publicly in months. Instead of staying in Utah to help investigators find his wife, he packed up and moved with his boys hundreds of miles away to Pullayup, Wash., to be closer to his family.

Susan Powell's mother, Judy Cox, said they are no longer allowed to have contact with their grandchildren, still in Joshua Powell's care.

"They won't let us see them," she said. "I guess they have their reasons, but we'll keep trying."

Joshua Powell's father, Steve Powell, told the Salt Lake Tribune that he believes his daughter-in-law ran off with a boyfriend, calling her "very sexually motivated."
The Coxes and Graves scoffed at the notion.

"They had their ups and downs," Cox said, but Susan Powell was "dedicated to making it work."
Graves, who visited with Susan Powell often, said she was admittedly chatty and would never have been able to keep something like that a secret.

But, Graves said, it was clear to her that her brother and sister-in-law did not have a happy marriage.

"Between Josh and Susan, there was a lot of discourse," Graves said. "They didn't have a very good relationship. Josh didn't treat her very well."
Joshua Powell last week also added a new detail to one of the case's most glaring elements when he said that a wet spot on a rug in their home that was found the morning after Susan disappeared was caused by a red stain that Susan had decided to clean before she vanished.

It was a detail that police have not corroborated.

Salt Lake Tribune reporter Nate Carlisle told ABC News that Joshua Powell, who has remained stoic and mostly silent throughout the time his wife has been missing, began to cry during the interview.

"Josh said Susan was not perfect but she was a good wife, and a good mother and at that point Josh began to cry," Carlisle said.

"He believes that the police have mishandled this investigation," he said, "by focusing on him.

Video at link.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on November 08, 2010, 10:04:03 AM
Even his own sister knows...... (http://bestsmileys.com/lol/4.gif)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Claycat on November 10, 2010, 05:18:38 PM
Josh says Susan is unstable, OMG look at the crazy eyes that man has. You can't hide crazy eyes Josh  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yep!  He can't hide his lying eyes!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: starwynn on November 18, 2010, 07:13:02 PM

So the suspect says she is unstable... was she ever evaluated? Is Josh holding a psychologist's degree there somewhere that we don't know about? 

I was astounded when I read the whole article about what all Josh and his "charming" father said.  I'd say that the first thing I thought of when I read the article was the term "projecting".  He's projecting his own issues, in a deprecating way, onto SP. 

I have to say that this whole article just really made me so terribly uncomfortable, so many red flags!  First, who describes a missing ex as possibly being "hamburger meat".  Even when I typed that, I got a chill.  (The heebeejeebees we call them down here in Texas.)  I mean really - there had to be a million other phrases he could have picked that wouldn't have left a clear visual like that one does.  Is it a visual he can't get rid of in his own mind For Some Reason?  Another thing, the aggression (nearly, if not violent) that father and son display towards women, particularly the women of SP's family!  It's really inappropriate.  The things they say are things that most people would not be able to just SAY to anyone, much less the press.

And so many other parts of this article...  Really, I can't believe that he even said this stuff.  I keep thinking The Telltale Heart, and figuring that we'll hear more from Josh as the proverbial telltale heart beats louder...and louder...


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Post by: Nut44x4 on November 18, 2010, 07:33:08 PM
starwynn .....that is an excellent post!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on November 21, 2010, 08:03:33 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-susan-powell-fights-back-husbands-accusations/story?id=12084876

snip
"In the Powell family, my family, we're the ones with the mental illness, documented," she said, noting that her and Joshua Powell's brother was diagnosed with schizophrenia. "I never saw Susan display symptoms," she said.
Graves, who is estranged from her own family but was close with Susan Powell and the couple's two children, has long maintained that she believes her brother had something to do with his wife's disappearance.

im guessing josh just has never seen a doc for that type of illness, so has not
been diagnosed yet,  did i miss him crying

and what good informative video thanks


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on November 21, 2010, 08:49:01 PM
http://susanpowell.org/Pages/Default.aspx

a new home pg, more of josh bs

titles are

Correcting the record

False claims about Josh and Susan Powell

Cyber-bullies on the Cox "Friends and Family" Facebook page

Protecting Susan and the children




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on November 24, 2010, 03:35:21 PM
He added a whole page to Jennifer Graves titled - Graves' Ransacking

http://susanpowell.org/Pages/Response/Jennifer-Kirk-Graves/Jennifer-Graves-Ransacks-Josh-Susan-Powell-Home.aspx

Why does Josh write in 3rd person?  He is a strange one that is for sure and seems to be getting more angry as time goes by.  I fear for his kids   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on November 24, 2010, 03:37:50 PM
He has also added a part at the bottom of the page here titled Josh Powell's regret, Susan Powell's property


http://susanpowell.org/Pages/Response/Jennifer-Kirk-Graves/Chuck-Cox-agenda-to-control-Josh-and-Susan-Powell-Property.aspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on November 24, 2010, 04:44:15 PM
He is an idiot........ the body was found in Wendover, UT...not Nevada. Pathological, diabolical liar, as well. He should consider fictional writing as a day job.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Sister on November 24, 2010, 05:09:51 PM
Good Evening....I just heard this BS on the nightly news and can't believe it. If Susan was my daughter, these two SOBS would have a bullet in the brain if they stepped out the door. I would gladly accept the death penalty to know he was not raising my grandchildren.

I hear you loud and clear.  Dear Lord, the turn the other cheek doesn't apply to evil I pray!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on November 29, 2010, 12:35:46 PM
Good Evening....I just heard this BS on the nightly news and can't believe it. If Susan was my daughter, these two SOBS would have a bullet in the brain if they stepped out the door. I would gladly accept the death penalty to know he was not raising my grandchildren.
::rhino:: ::rhino::

I was thinking the same thing, after what these 2 POS SOB MF'rs said about Susan, and the "chew her up and spit her out like hamburger meat" made me want to jump thru the computer and shoot them myself, and I too would be willing to do just about anything to assure my two grands didn't drow up with the Powells. The Cox family should have them, and ir reminds me so much of OJ, Drew P and others raising their kids when they are known psychopaths/killers.........why in the he77 can't the court do something? ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 02, 2010, 11:40:24 AM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 03, 2010, 08:04:16 AM
Ditto on WTF?


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Post by: starwynn on December 03, 2010, 04:56:05 PM
He added a whole page to Jennifer Graves titled - Graves' Ransacking

http://susanpowell.org/Pages/Response/Jennifer-Kirk-Graves/Jennifer-Graves-Ransacks-Josh-Susan-Powell-Home.aspx

Why does Josh write in 3rd person?  He is a strange one that is for sure and seems to be getting more angry as time goes by.  I fear for his kids   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I have never been to that site.  Wow, it's disturbing to me.   He's very very detached, even to his own kids!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 03, 2010, 05:21:21 PM
Ted Bundy spoke in the '3rd person' ... on manyyyyyy occasions. Speaking in the third person depersonalizes them from the situation. It adds a huge creep factor.

Unless of course you hear a mother speak to her child in that manner.... : "Give Mommie the ball"

Then again....Elmo speaks in the 3rd peep ;)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: starwynn on December 03, 2010, 08:43:41 PM
Ted Bundy spoke in the '3rd person' ... on manyyyyyy occasions. Speaking in the third person depersonalizes them from the situation. It adds a huge creep factor.

Unless of course you hear a mother speak to her child in that manner.... : "Give Mommie the ball"

Then again....Elmo speaks in the 3rd peep ;)

...  Elmo always kinda scared me.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 04, 2010, 02:17:53 PM

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 04, 2010, 02:27:23 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: I'd be willing to be the only time she left at an odd hour during the night,is when he carried off to who knows where.......
Piece of chit.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 04, 2010, 02:32:57 PM
::MonkeyNoNo:: I'd be willing to be the only time she left at an odd hour during the night,is when he carried off to who knows where.......
Piece of chit.
I can't even hardly come to this thread, that low life SOB Josh makes me so angry. I agree Trimm that was the only time Susan left at odd hours.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: starwynn on December 04, 2010, 02:42:10 PM
Seems like he's trying too hard to prove he's innocent.  People invite him over to just say hi, and remain neutral, and they go into a tirade about how awful she was, and how undependable (according to them anyway)?  For someone who supposedly really loved her and supposedly wants her back, you can't really tell.  If it were me, I would be begging - if at least for the sake of the kids - for her to come home if I really thought she were out there.   Not going around talking about how sexually motivated, mentally ill, undependable, and angry she is.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: starwynn on December 04, 2010, 02:42:46 PM
P.s.  For whatever reason in his mind he thought he justly had to murder her, he's still obviously not over it. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 04, 2010, 02:55:25 PM
::MonkeyNoNo:: I'd be willing to be the only time she left at an odd hour during the night,is when he carried off to who knows where.......
Piece of chit.
I can't even hardly come to this thread, that low life SOB Josh makes me so angry. I agree Trimm that was the only time Susan left at odd hours.

Yep.... always a tad of truth mixed with the lies when all the murdering freaks speak.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Mere on December 05, 2010, 10:41:46 AM
Article which came via google news this morning
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=13530686

with link to the SP site which includes the SP/SK theory
http://susanpowell.org/Pages/Response/Steven-Koecher-Susan-Powell/Steven-Koecher-Susan-Powell-Parallel-Utah-Disappearances-Connection.aspx

and link to the 6 pages submitted by Steven Powellhttp://susanpowell.org/Download/2010-03-01_Steven-Koecher-Susan-Powell-brainstorm-by-Steve-Powell.pdf


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 05, 2010, 11:25:58 AM
AAAACCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG this punk has to be Drew Peterson's brother...wtf??
The more he talks/writes, the more pathetic and stupid he sounds. Keep talkin' Joshy...you'll dig your own grave :)

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=13530686
Josh Powell claims wife ran off with missing Utah man

December 4th, 2010 @ 10:00pm
By Paul Koepp
WEST VALLEY CITY -- Just in time for the one-year anniversary of the disappearance of Susan Cox Powell, her husband is apparently floating a theory that she ran off with a St. George man who went missing around the same time.

A website maintained by Josh Powell was updated Saturday with several supposed "parallels" between his wife and Steven Koecher, who was last seen Dec. 13, 2009, in Henderson, Nev. The posts strongly imply that Josh Powell and his father believe they went to Brazil, where Koecher served an LDS mission.

Koecher's father and a spokeswoman for Susan Cox Powell's family said they place no stock in the idea. She disappeared Dec. 7, 2009, the same night that Josh Powell claims he took their two young sons camping in the bitter cold in the Simpson Springs area of Tooele County. He is the only person of interest police have named in her disappearance.

Included in the material posted on Josh Powell's website is a rambling, nine-page report written by his father, Steven Powell, outlining why Susan Cox Powell may have left and by what means she and Koecher could have traveled to Brazil. The report states he started researching the Koecher case in February.

"The more I read about him, the more I learned about him, and the more I looked at the timeline for him during the week of Susan's disappearance, the more convinced I became that the Koecher and Powell disappearances were related," Steven Powell wrote.

He said he shared his speculations with the FBI and police in West Valley City, St. George and Henderson.

"That theory is preposterous," said Cox family spokeswoman Shelby Gifford. "Susan may have been willing to walk away from her marriage, but she never would have walked away from her boys."

Rolf Koecher, Steven's father, said West Valley and St. George police met to see if they could find any connection between the two cases, but found none.

"We don't think there's a link," he said. "We're not mad at (the Powells), but we don't agree with what they're saying."

Rolf Koecher noted that investigators checked airline records because his son had recently obtained a passport, but they uncovered no evidence that he had left the country, and the passport was later found buried in a clothes drawer.

He said his own theory is that his son was lured by something, perhaps a job opportunity, into the Henderson neighborhood where a security camera caught him walking the day he disappeared -- and that something then went terribly wrong.

The family does not have anything planned for the anniversary of Koecher's disappearance but still hopes someone will come forward with helpful information, he said.

Susan Cox Powell's family and friends are focusing on service projects instead of vigils as they mark one year since she went missing. The public is invited to share story-time -- a favorite activity of Susan and her sons -- Monday from 6:30 to 8:30 p.m. at Whittier Elementary, 3585 S. 6000 West. Volunteers can pick up missing-person fliers to distribute Tuesday from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. at Hunter Library, 4740 W. 4100 South.

Her parents, Chuck and Judy Cox, appeared Saturday on NBC's Today Show and responded to recent statements by Josh Powell that they had emotionally abused their daughter.

"Anyone can see that's a self-serving statement, and it's made without any evidence whatsoever because there is no evidence. There's been no abuse," Chuck Cox said. "Our daughter was taken against her will and is not in control of her situation."

Judy Cox added, "I have great courage that she'll be found … sometime in the future. We're hoping sooner than later."

An interview with the Koecher family will be broadcast Monday on the Today Show.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: starwynn on December 05, 2010, 09:31:10 PM
More craziness from Josh Powell.  I predict he's just going to ramp up until he outs himself.  Or maybe that's wishful thinking.

I will say, though - that reading all the crap talk about Susan and her mom.... it's really horrible.  He hates Susan, doesn't he?  I mean - really really hates her.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 06, 2010, 06:28:34 AM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/local/kstu-josh-powell-new-theory-of-susan-powells-disappearance,0,713119.story
Husband of missing woman shares new theory of her whereabouts
Video at link

Maile Tua'one FOX 13
10:19 p.m. MST, December 5, 2010
SALT LAKE CITY —
On the one-year anniversary of missing West Valley City woman, Susan Cox Powell, her husband, Josh Powell shares his own theory about her disappearance.

Josh Powell is the only person of interest in the case and later moved to Washington with their children months after Susan went missing.
Powell's theory is not flattering about his wife and his sister and Susan's friends in Utah say his theory is light on reality and heavy on desperation.

"When I read the pages yesterday, I laughed because it was so ridiculous," said Kiirsi Hellewell. "I think it shows more than ever that they're trying everything they can try to deflect attention away from Josh and suspicions away from Josh."

Josh Powell's website dedicated to finding his missing wife is saying she ran away with another man, Steven Koecher who also disappeared in December 2009. The website uses general attributes of Susan and Koercher, describing both are LDS, similar ages and similar dates of disappearance.

"There's a lot of LDS people in Utah that are in their 20's and just because these two happened to tragically disappear in the month of December, that's all there is to it. They've never met. They have no connection whatsoever," Hellewell said.

Josh Powell's sister, Jennifer Graves said her brother lacks credibility passing on a theory without talking to detectives.

"They act like they're so interested in finding Susan and let's help investigators but I still want to know why Josh isn't willing to come and talk to the West Valley Police," Graves said.

Josh Powell's father who supports his son's theory, responded to some e-mailed question from FOX 13 saying, "We hope what we have presented is helpful in their search. None of us, including the police agencies and federal agents, can know for certain

 :gaah:


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 06, 2010, 06:32:53 AM
More craziness from Josh Powell.  I predict he's just going to ramp up until he outs himself.  Or maybe that's wishful thinking.

I will say, though - that reading all the crap talk about Susan and her mom.... it's really horrible.  He hates Susan, doesn't he?  I mean - really really hates her.

Yep,if you want to keep a secret...keep your mouth shut.Apparently that isn't possible for this guy,so scoot over I am gonna wait and watch too.
I think he hates her.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 06, 2010, 06:36:45 AM
Part of the last sentence in the article did not post.....

None of us, including the police agencies and federal agents, can know for certain whether or not they are together. This is a possibility that must be taken seriously," said Steve Powell.
http://www.fox13now.com/news/local/kstu-josh-powell-new-theory-of-susan-powells-disappearance,0,713119.story


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: starwynn on December 06, 2010, 08:48:59 PM
More craziness from Josh Powell.  I predict he's just going to ramp up until he outs himself.  Or maybe that's wishful thinking.

I will say, though - that reading all the crap talk about Susan and her mom.... it's really horrible.  He hates Susan, doesn't he?  I mean - really really hates her.

Yep,if you want to keep a secret...keep your mouth shut.Apparently that isn't possible for this guy,so scoot over I am gonna wait and watch too.
I think he hates her.   ::MonkeyCool::


<<Scootches over to make room, shares her bowl of popcorn>>.   I am going to enjoy it when he finally verbally hangs himself.  More.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 07, 2010, 06:34:30 AM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700089116/One-year-later-Susan-Cox-Powell-is-still-missing.html
One year later, Susan Cox Powell is still missing
Family still hopes Powell will be found
Published: Monday, Dec. 6, 2010 11:18 p.m. MST
By Wendy Leonard and Andrew Adams, Deseret News

SALT LAKE CITY — One year after Susan Cox Powell was last seen, family and friends remain hopeful she'll be found.

Police are still treating her disappearance as a missing-persons case, dedicating numerous resources to the investigation. West Valley City Police Sgt. Mike Powell said on Monday that more than 8,000 hours have been spent working on the ongoing investigation, including addressing hundreds of phone calls that continue to come in from the public.
Susan Cox Powell's father, Charles Cox, said police update the family weekly.

"At this point, we want to move on with positive thoughts about her because there's been no body found," he said. "She could still be alive."

He still meets with people who have not heard of the case, and that is lending hope to the possibility that someone who might have seen something critical may still be able to help.

"We're always hopeful of finding her alive," Judy Cox, Susan Cox Powell's mother, said during a telephone interview from Puyallup, Wash., on Monday. "We are also realizing it could be the other way, but we're more hopeful she will be alive."

Susan Cox Powell went missing Dec. 7, 2009, and before her husband, Josh Powell, returned to their West Valley City home with their two sons, some believed the whole family had disappeared. Josh Powell said he had taken the boys camping overnight.

"Every once in a while, I still think she should be walking through that door," said Jennifer Graves, Josh Powell's sister and Susan Cox Powell's friend. "She was such a bright person, such a bright spirit. She just was happy and positive. She was just a bright spot in my life."

After a trying 12 months, Graves believes her brother is responsible for her friend's disappearance, and she has essentially been disowned by her family for her beliefs in the matter. She last spoke to Josh Powell on Jan. 22.
"The fact that he left two weeks after she disappeared, to go on vacation — that is just offensive to me," she said. "Then, he moved a month after she disappeared. That doesn't show actions of a spouse who loves and cares about their spouse."

In addition to losing their daughter, Charles and Judy Cox last saw their grandsons on April 10 at a park in Puyallup. They've been asked to communicate with Josh Powell via e-mail, but they say he doesn't always respond.

"We believe he's the key to telling us what happened to her or at least moving the investigation beyond where it is," said Charles Cox.
Police have yet to name any suspects in the case, however, Josh Powell was named as the only "person of interest" at one point. Since Susan Cox Powell's disappearance, he has made numerous postings on a website he maintains, and has made claims that she ran off with another man or that she left them.

"It doesn't look to me like there would be any possibility that she could admit to her parents, for example, that she was actually out doing something with another guy and going to run off with somebody else," Josh Powell's father, Steve Powell said on Monday. He has also posted information on the site and has recently tried to link Susan Cox Powell's disappearance with that of a St. George man.
"Although it's upsetting, it's also ridiculous," said Charles Cox. "They're flailing about with absolutely no evidence or anything."

Susan Cox Powell's friend, Kiirsi Hellewell, can't believe it has been an entire year with no resolution.

"It's horrible," she said. "It's like walking around all the time with this just overwhelming load of bricks on you, and as the day gets closer and closer to a year that Susan's been gone, it just gets heavier every day."

Friends and family held multiple events Monday to mark the anniversary of her disappearance, including one that focused on a children's story time and gathering books for the Granite School District.

"Instead of doing something that's maybe sadder, like a candlelight vigil, as we've done in the past, we wanted to celebrate Susan's most important role in her life and the thing that meant the most to her, and that is that she was a wonderful mother to her two little boys. She loved to read to them," Hellewell said. Hellewell said her friend wouldn't know anyone was looking for her "because she's either dead or taken against her will and is being held somewhere where she doesn't have access to the luxuries we take for granted."
Police continue to encourage anyone with information that might be pertinent to the disappearance of Susan Cox Powell to call the West Valley City police department at 801-840-4000.

e-mail: wleonard@desnews.com, aadams@ksl.com


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 07, 2010, 06:44:46 AM
(http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/cbsnews/2009/12/14/image5977791.jpg)
http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_162-5978124-11.html?tag=page
Missing Utah Mother Susan Powell

Utah mom Susan Powell, 28, was reported missing Dec. 6, 2009 from the Salt Lake City suburb of West Valley City in a case that police are calling suspicious. Her husband, Josh Powell, says he took their children, ages 2 and 4, camping, and does not know what happened to her. Police urge anyone with information regarding the case to call West Valley City Police at (801) 840-4000.


Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_162-5978124-11.html#ixzz17QRBLw9Z


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 08, 2010, 09:23:17 AM
http://www.thenewstribune.com/2010/12/08/1456262/missing-womans-friends-family.html
Susan Cox Powell's friends, family volunteer for others
STACIA GLENN; Staff writer
Published: 12/08/1012:05 am | Updated: 12/08/10 3:21 am
Instead of holding a vigil, Susan Cox Powell’s family and friends gathered Tuesday night to help others while marking the anniversary of the 28-year-old mother of two’s disappearance.

About 35 people met up inside an abandoned car dealership in Puyallup to wrap presents for the Washington State Santa Cops, a nonprofit that delivers toys and food to needy families, in Cox Powell’s honor.

“We decided it’s a good distraction to go and help someone,” said the woman’s father, Charles Cox. “Susan liked helping people and loved to do this kind of stuff so we carried on.”

Cox Powell was reported missing Dec. 7, 2009, when she didn’t show up for work in Utah.

Her husband, Josh Powell, said he saw her a day earlier, when he left to go camping with the couple’s boys, ages 2 and 4. He has been the only person identified as a “person of interest” by police but has not been charged with any crime.

Josh Powell since has returned to Puyallup, where the couple met. They moved to Utah six years ago.

Police in West Valley City, a suburb of Salt Lake City, say they’re still following tips and treating Cox Powell’s disappearance as a missing-person case. Police said more than 8,000 hours have been put into the investigation, and they have handled hundreds of phone calls from the public.

Shelby Gifford, the family’s spokeswoman, said foregoing a vigil for a service-minded project helped Cox Powell’s loved ones put a positive spin on their heartbreak.
Tuesday night’s turnout enabled them to collect more than 1,000 toys.

Volunteers spent two hours sorting canned foods and wrapping Christmas presents that will be distributed to 150-200 families later this month.

Nathan Johnson, who attends the same church as the Cox family, said he recently was released from prison and wanted to participate in the event to show he can be a productive person.

“I decided to do something good and positive for society. I really feel for (the Coxes),” Johnson said. “For so long I’ve been selfish – it feels good to help other people.”

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on December 08, 2010, 03:12:08 PM
not one update about missing susan, or acknowledgement its been a year, and i sure would ,not want to be this woman,
right now, wonder if there is a legal issue, publishing this womans words, thats supposing the entry and journal are real

http://susanpowell.org/Pages/Response/Susan-Cox-Journal-Entries/Susan-Cox-dear-friend-witnesses-Judy-Cox-abuse-real-time.aspx
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Susan's dear friend writes about Judy Cox's abuse as it is happening
Susan Powell, who was Susan Cox at the time, had one of the best friends she could have ever asked for. Susan frequently told Josh about Susan's love and friendship for Brittainy Cornett. Susan said that Brittainy was there for her at a time in her life when she really, really needed a friend. Susan's words to Josh over the years were that Brittainy literally saved her life.

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The Powells can only hope for Brittainy's continued support for Susan as the Powells publish this letter in full because the Powells feel Brittainy's words are so powerful.

Links to view the full letter:
TYPED TRANSCRIPT: August 3, 1999 Brittainy Cornett writes about Judy Cox's abuse as it is happening
SCANNED ORIGINAL: August 3, 1999 Brittainy Cornett writes about Judy Cox's abuse as it is happening
Updated December 7, 2010



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 08, 2010, 04:55:25 PM
I don't see what this has to do with anything. Susan didn't live with her mother anymore....she lived with Joshy. WTH is he trying to prove? It is in my opinion that more people than not have suffered some kind of abuse in their lifetime, whether it be emotional, mental, physical or sexual. This has nothing to do with Susan being missing Joshy... get over it and confess.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: suzyinpgh on December 09, 2010, 07:07:28 AM
Is that all he has!  How many of us didn't have screaming episodes with our Mother.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 09, 2010, 09:57:56 AM
He's desperately trying to divert cause/attention from himself, but it is backfiring.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on December 13, 2010, 12:35:59 PM
Inside story: Media attention opens old wounds, new hopes

We were heading to our oldest son’s house Saturday evening to be with his kids while he and his wife attended a company Christmas party.

Just before we left the house, however, he called to say, “Dad, you might want to wear a shirt suitable to be seen in on television.”

He added that NBC cameras would be there to interview us for a brief segment on Monday morning’s Today Show. A version of the segment would also appear on KSL-TV that night.

In the intervening days, we have also talked to the Deseret News, The Salt Lake Tribune, the Ogden Standard-Examiner, media sources in Washington state, Deseret News columnist Lee Benson, People magazine and other local TV stations.

The best way to explain how we feel about this is to note it has re-opened wounds that were healing.

We had been meaning to let the next few days pass quietly, but due to the new flurry of media attention, we need to let Clipper readers know our position. And it’s a bit complicated

Essentially, Josh Powell and his father Steve have launched a new website in conjunction with the one-year anniversary of the disappearance of West Valley mother Susan Powell.

The site displays a photo of my son Steven, next to a photo of Susan Powell, Josh Powell’s wife.

In the information that follows, it alleges in part that the Powells believe Susan has run off to Brazil with my son Steven. In addition, the Powell website lists even more strange possibilities.

To be sure, websites by other parties also offer every weird scenario imaginable.

Our relatives have tried to shield us from many of these allegations, but we have examined several of them. And so have Las Vegas, Henderson and St. George police.

Just to be thorough, they have checked out a number of these theories — even some proffered by psychics.

Henderson detectives on several occasions have checked out rocks, ravines and fields suggested by psychics just to make sure — but have always found nothing.

So while there are many theories out there, we have encountered very little to substantiate them. To make our position clear, I will stick strictly to the evidence that has been found — not simply what we as a family would like to believe.

So here’s our position. As I said, it’s a bit complicated:

1. We are not upset at the Powell family for making these assertions. We realize they are going through a hard time and understand they may be grasping at straws.

2. The facts, however, don’t lead to their conclusion. That’s because police checked airline boardings out of Las Vegas for a period of several months. Steven was not on a plane that departed from McCarran International Airport.

We, ourselves, thought for a time that Steven might have gone to Brazil because he asked me for his passport about a month before he disappeared. However, we eventually found the passport among his possessions

That discovery hit us like so many other things in this baffling situation: We were happy to know he hadn’t fled the country, but saddened to realize another clue had vanished.

2. Which points out that seemingly logical theories often turn out to be just that: mere theories that evaporate when confronted by facts.

3. We also have not sought media involvement just for attention’s sake — our only interest has always been to find a clue that might lead us to Steven. That’s why we have preferred to focus on things that could have a chance of finding him, not something that has no other object than attracting attention.

4. We do see a bright side in all this because if the wider media attention sparks just a single solid lead, it will have been worth the added upheaval to our lives. And, oddly enough, we would be happy to know that our son was living in Brazil because knowing he is safe and happy beats continuing to remain in the dark.

5. And just as the Brazil theory can be easily dismissed by the facts, so can many of the Powells’ other assertions — especially links to Steven’s being in West Valley. Our copies of bank records show that Steven had bought gas in Salt Lake City — not West Valley – in the days after Susan Powell’s disappearance. Another website that has been tracking Steven’s situation shows the same data and features the disclaimer that its timeline does not support the one offered by the Powells.

I could say much more, but this should suffice.

While we remain open to any possibility or further information that may be found, investigations by police and others do not support any link to Susan Powell, to a new life in Brazil or to other unusual theories.

All we know is that he is missing — and apparently without a trace.

http://www.clippertoday.com/view/full_story/10580238/article-Inside-story--Media-attention-opens-old-wounds--new-hopes-?instance=lead_story_left_column


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on December 13, 2010, 12:37:20 PM
http://www.susanpowell.org/Pages/Response/Steven-Koecher-Susan-Powell/Steven-Koecher-Susan-Powell-Parallel-Utah-Disappearances-Connection.aspx

Updated December 12, 2010



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 13, 2010, 12:50:27 PM
omg how pathetic Josh!! I hope your ass gets sued...big time. How dare you involve this other family that has a loved one missing! What an outrage!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: starwynn on December 13, 2010, 03:22:39 PM
omg how pathetic Josh!! I hope your ass gets sued...big time. How dare you involve this other family that has a loved one missing! What an outrage!


There is something so seriously wrong with this guy mentally.  But of course, for him to understand the implications of what he is doing to this other family, he would have to empathize.  To empathize, he would have to know pain.  He doesn't know pain with Susan's disappearance because, Lord forgive me if I'm wrong but I'm quite certain I am not, Susan didn't disappear - to him.  He knows exactly what happened to her.  So he can't put himself in the other's shoes.

I really do wonder *exactly* what is wrong with Josh.  Does he have a complete inability to bond? Every time I see him, or read what he's thinking, I am getting a strong feeling of some disorder but I don't know enough about the disorders to quite put my finger on it.  Sometimes his inappropriate statements and weird anti-social quirks, inability to understand what others are feeling through *their* eyes reminds me of Aspergers... except I'm not seeing any signs at all of exceptional intelligence.  Then I wonder if he was raised without bonding, and it's certain (and confirmed by his sister) that several of the children of Steve have unnatural bonding loyalty to their father.  He also has this weird anger thing that is obvious to everyone except him, like a big pink elephant in the room!  He's so hateful and insulting to his "missing" wife that even after a year he can't stop fuming about her.   Maybe he's blaming her for his own "telltale heart"? Who knows. I really look at him and his father and see two guys who think they are exceptionally brilliant, that the public (and police) are clueless, and that we believe them.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 14, 2010, 10:08:30 AM
http://www.kcsg.com/view/full_story/10652435/article-Koecher-Family-Marks-Anniversary-of-Utah-Man-Missing-for-one-Year-?instance=home_stories2_tip
Koecher Family Marks Anniversary of Utah Man Missing for one Year
by Pat Reavy, Associated Press Kcsg Television
1 day ago | 507 views


<Snipped>

Late Sunday, the Koecher family, who live in Bountiful, issued a statement focusing on the facts of their son's case. They listed 11 points ( http://assets.matchbin.com/secure/8c41ec907cd57b86f10695411b2a8dee/7fe86be0/sites/990/assets/3T57_Powell_Rebuttal.pdf  ) why Steven and Susan did not run off together.


Read more: KCSG Television - Koecher Family Marks Anniversary of Utah Man Missing for one Year


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on December 16, 2010, 12:55:35 PM
Police investigating possible sighting of missing man

BOUNTIFUL Utah (ABC4 News) – Police are reviewing surveillance video for a possible link to the disappearance of Steven Koecher.

The 30-year old St. George man disappeared one year ago Monday after being spotted in Henderson Nevada.

“It was our last link to him was the surveillance video,” said his father Rolf Koecher.

Police in Nevada and St. George have yet to find any trace of Koecher. Cell phone records and Bank statements have not produced anything that has given police a trail to follow.

“It's not been easy,” said his father. “People would see us by day and we'd come here at night, here in this room, my wife and I sit in the dark and be paralyzed.”

Koecher said there was a possible sighting near a Provo post office.

He said the surveillance video has been forwarded to St. George police.

“He's within walking distance of his grandmothers,” said his father who hasn’t seen the video. “He'd have to be deranged to not know where he is. You know anything is possible.”

But a theory by Josh Powell that Koecher ran off with Susan Powell makes no sense to them or police.

“They (police) have met they compared all the phone calls, compared there was no joint phone calls,” Koecher said. “There is nothing linking them. They've totally dismissed it.”


And they recently found writings written by Steven Koecher two weeks before he disappeared.

“His state of mind was really good,” he said. “He was happy. He talked about his life being happy.”

Sunday night, the family decorated a Christmas tree outside their home. The lights will remain lit throughout the year or until Steven comes home.

“It’s kind of a bittersweet day for us because our kids are coming over this evening,” he said. “They don't want us to be alone.”

If anyone has any information about Steven Koecher’s disappearance, contact St. George police at 435-627-4301.

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/state/story/Police-investigating-possible-sighting-of-missing/Ua1dvh1yc021V0EV_3yTZg.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on December 16, 2010, 12:58:07 PM
Conjecture on Powell pours salt on wounds

Nothing like a punch to the gut on an anniversary you never wanted to observe.

It was a year ago yesterday that 28-year-old mom and housewife Susan Powell disappeared from her home in West Valley City and a year ago this coming Monday that 30-year-old Steven Koecher, a resident of St. George at the time, was last seen walking away from his car in Henderson, Nev.

For the 12 longest months of their lives, the families of these two Utahns, gone without a trace in the prime of life, have had to endure despair followed by repeated disappointment as exhaustive law enforcement investigations and massive volunteer searches have yielded no credible leads in either case.

Now, as the cold of December returns, a new twist has emerged about what happened to them.

Susan Powell and Steven Koecher ran off together, it is being speculated. They're alive and well and living most likely in Brazil, where Koecher was once a missionary.

It's a scenario that transforms Susan and Steven from victims into cheats and crooks.

The sole source for this conjecture comes from a website, SusanPowell.org, maintained by Susan's husband, Josh, and Josh's father, Steve Powell.

The website points out that Susan and Steven are about the same age, both are members of the LDS Church and, according to a timeline generated by Steve Powell, Koecher was in West Valley City a year ago.

Under that criteria, tens of thousands more who fit the above description — around 30, LDS and who passed through West Valley City in late 2009 — would qualify instantly as suspects.

The supposition is 100 percent innuendo, originating from the only person who has come under suspicion in either case — that would be Susan's husband Josh, whose alibi the night his wife disappeared (he said he went camping with the couple's two young sons, in December, at midnight) is suspect and whose behavior ever since (he moved out of state and to this day has not talked to police) could best be described as unusual.

And yet, as the one-year mark approached, the media, both print and broadcast, somehow saw fit this past weekend to publicly air the speculation.

You wonder what's next: breaking news on O.J.'s latest theories on who killed Nicole?

For obvious reasons, both Susan Powell's and Steven Koecher's families have expressed dismay at the National Enquirer-like headlines generated by the Josh Powell rumor mill. It would be excusable if there were a scintilla of tangible evidence to support the claims of Josh and his father that Susan and Steven dumped their lives and families — including the children Susan adored — to escape to a love nest in the rain forest.

But there isn't one scintilla of tangible evidence.

All the story succeeds in doing — for those who don't consider the source — is disparage the missing and add grief for their loved ones.

Not only has the good character of both Susan Powell and Steven Koecher stood up for an entire year under the closest of police scrutiny, but there has never been anything to even remotely suggest they ever crossed paths.

Phone records were checked and cross-checked. Neither person called the other or called anyone the other called.

Best friends and family — the closest confidants of the missing persons — were interviewed and re-interviewed. No one suggested either Susan or Steven was seeing anyone else.

The only verifiable time Steven Koecher was anywhere near the Powell's home was for a volleyball game in West Valley City with friends on Thanksgiving Day, Nov. 26, 2009, a week and a half before Susan Powell disappeared, after which he returned to his parents' home in Bountiful.

The police departments in the respective jurisdictions have met and shared all their evidence and found nothing.

"Everything they say is not founded in truth or reality, it's just scenarios," says Rolf Koecher, Steven's father, of the website conjecture. "Their assertions have opened up wounds that were healing.

"It sounds strange," Rolf adds, "but we'd be happy to know they're alive and safe — to know Steven is safe and not hurting, needing a rescue from somewhere."

He pauses, a dad dealing with a year's worth of unimaginable grief.

"But this isn't even on our radar that it's a possibility. We don't give it 10 seconds of thought. This is all innuendo and no evidence."

And incredibly cruel.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700089432/Conjecture-on-Powell-pours-salt-on-wounds.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on December 16, 2010, 01:01:00 PM
A year later, Koecher family still seeks missing son

BOUNTIFUL -- The talk Steven Koecher gave at an LDS sacrament meeting in St. George about a week before his disappearance, his parents say, speaks to what Steven's state of mind was just before he disappeared.
Notes for the speech were recently found by Deanne Koecher, Steven's mother, in her son's Bible as she flipped through it.

"It did not seem to be the mind of someone plotting something criminal or reprehensible," Steven's father, Rolf Koecher, said of the found manuscript that lifted the spirits of the Koecher family at a time when they needed it.

"(Steven) described his home life as being happy, supportive, loving and peaceful," Rolf Koecher said.

Monday was the one-year anniversary of the last time 30-year-old Steven Koecher was seen.

On Dec. 13, 2009, the St. George resident, formerly of Bountiful, disappeared at about noon in the Sun City Anthem area of Henderson, Nev., an upscale retirement community near Las Vegas.

Surveillance video from a home-security camera shows Steven's car arriving at about six minutes to noon and parking in a small cul-de-sac, Rolf Koecher said.

Steven Koecher can be seen walking past the side of the home that has the surveillance camera, turning left on the street in front of the house, then crossing the street and walking out of the camera's view.

It is the surveillance video, along with other evidence gathered in the yearlong investigation of their missing son, Rolf Koecher said, that provides information contrary to what has been posted on a website by Josh Powell and Steve Powell, husband and father-in-law of Susan Powell, a missing West Valley City mother of two.

The website contends the missing woman, who was last seen Dec. 6, 2009, and Steven Koecher fled to Brazil, where Steven served a mission for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

"The best evidence we have of his disappearance and the week preceding this event does not substantiate the assertions in a recently updated website," Rolf Koecher said in a statement.

"Rather than giving solely our opinions, we'd prefer to focus on actual information uncovered through extensive investigations," he said.

At least 11 items cast doubt about a link between Susan Powell and Steven Koecher, Rolf Koecher said.

This contention was originally brought up by the Powell family about 10 months ago, with police investigators unable to find a link.

West Valley City and St. George Police met to compare phone records, financial records and even records confidential to both investigations.

"They found there has been no mutual contact and no reason to believe there had ever been," Rolf Koecher said of the two missing people.

When Powell's website linked Steven Koecher with Susan Powell's disappearance and the "Today" show recorded a local segment on it, Koecher said, his family felt they needed to respond.

"Our official position is that (the Powells) have their own challenges to deal with," Rolf Koecher said.
In the meantime, the Koecher family -- while waiting for new clues to surface to help solve the mystery of Steven's disappearance -- has decorated an evergreen in the front of their Bountiful home with lights that are to remain on until their son comes home, or the lights burn out.

"What happens is that we get a clue that makes us hopeful, and they all evaporate," Koecher said of the ups and downs the family has experienced with this incident.

On Dec. 3, two sightings were made in Provo of someone resembling Steven Koecher. Family immediately scoured the area of the first sighting but could not find him. However, this individual may have been caught on video surveillance tapes at a Provo area post office on the same day, Rolf Koecher said.

The tapes are being released by the U.S. Postal Service to the St. George police for examination.

"We're trying to stay hopeful," Rolf Koecher said.

However, he said, it is hard to have total hope because the family thinks that after a year if someone had a clue, they would have come forward by now.

"We have felt a lot of support," Rolf Koecher said of family and friends.

And although the support cannot fix the problem, he said it does lift the family's spirits.

http://www.standard.net/topics/missing-person/2010/12/14/year-later-koecher-family-still-seeks-missing-son


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on December 18, 2010, 04:14:04 PM
just out of curiosity, has there ever been a suspected murderer that has started a web blog
that enables the LE and world to keep tabs on his thought process
good job josh, its eating at you and for some reason, you think your smarter than LE, you will
either hang yourself or the LE will bust you soon


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 18, 2010, 04:38:47 PM
I thought he lawyered up ages ago. I can't believe his Lawyer hasn't told him to STFU!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on February 22, 2011, 11:41:03 AM
http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/17/susan-cox-powell-nancy-grace-america%E2%80%99s-missing/
Susan Cox Powell: Nancy Grace America’s Missing
02/17/11

Video http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2011/02/18/exp.ng.americasmissing.powell.hln


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on March 30, 2011, 09:42:16 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/nancy-grace-determined-justice-13254840
Nancy Grace Determined to See Justice  03/30/11


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 10, 2011, 08:22:38 PM
::MonkeyAngel::
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/susanpowellandkids.jpg)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 05, 2011, 11:11:33 AM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-new-search-for-susan-cox-powell-20110423,0,1847742.story
New search for Susan Cox Powell
Ben Winslow Fox13Now.com
9:01 p.m. MDT, April 23, 2011

Video at link.
GREAT SALT LAKE—

A new search was conducted in Utah's West Desert for any sign of missing West Valley City mom Susan Cox Powell. An all-volunteer group fanned out along the northern shores of the Great Salt Lake in the first search this year of the missing woman.

"Drill with a cause is what we're calling it," said Jon Watkins with the Bridgerland Fire Company.

The group searched a vast patch of desert on the northern end of the Great Salt Lake for Susan Cox Powell. It also doubled as a training exercise for new recruits.

"One more place to check off and just one more reason to keep her in everybody's minds," said Dustin McKnight.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Lifesong on May 06, 2011, 10:10:45 AM

I'm a little angry this morning, Monkeys.  I just came across this you-tube video posted to another site as though it were the truth about Josh Powell and folks should believe it.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::    ::MonkeyTears::


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi6-XJ4ZARA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi6-XJ4ZARA)


Sorry - I can't seem to remember how to embed a you-tube.





Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 16, 2011, 06:14:13 AM
Body found in desert in Tooele County
May 15th, 2011 @ 9:31pm
By Dennis Romboy

STOCKTON, Tooele County — Authorities late Sunday were trying determine the identity of a body found in the desert near Stockton.

Tooele County Attorney Doug Hogan came across the remains about 5 p.m. while checking spring runoff in the area where his family runs a ranch, said Tooele County Sheriff's Lt. Travis Sharmann.

Sharmann wouldn't say whether the body was male or female or how long it might have been there. "Right now we we haven't been able to identify anything," he said.

snipped

Searches for missing West Valley woman Susan Powell have been conducted in remote areas of Tooele County...snipped

Sharmann said he was aware that people might be speculating that the remains found Sunday may belong to Susan Powell. He said that was one of the reasons authorities were withholding any details about the body until Monday afternoon.

The discovery of the body is not related  to the ongoing search for a Dugway Proving Ground soldier who went missing in Tooele County on May 8, said Wade Mathews, Tooele County Emergency Management spokesman.

snipped
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=960&sid=15560257&autostart=y
map at link


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 16, 2011, 03:39:33 PM
Monday, May 16, 2011
Susan Powell: Body may have been found

A body has been found in Tooele County near Stockton, Utah, and there may be a possibility it is Susan Powell.  The Tooele County Sheriff's office said that Attorney Doug Hogan found the unidentified body.

http://missingpersonsblog.blogspot.com/2011/05/susan-powell-body-may-have-been-found.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 16, 2011, 03:41:26 PM
NancyGraceHLN Nancy Grace
BREAKING: Body just found in desert – is it missing young mom Susan Powell?

http://twitter.com/#!/NancyGraceHLN (http://twitter.com/#!/NancyGraceHLN)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 16, 2011, 03:44:23 PM
Utahcrimewatch Utah Crime Watch
Speculation body found in Utah's Tooele County is missing woman Susan Powell: ... up his children and moved fro... http://bit.ly/jkJ7ac (http://bit.ly/jkJ7ac)

http://twitter.com/#!/Utahcrimewatch (http://twitter.com/#!/Utahcrimewatch)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on May 16, 2011, 05:30:36 PM
http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/susan-cox-powell-speculation-about-body-found-tooele-county-sunday
Susan Cox Powell: Speculation about body found in Tooele County Sunday
May 16, 2011

TOOELE COUNTY, Utah (Isabelle Zehnder reporting) -- Human remains were found Sunday in Tooele County, Utah, and there is speculation the body could be that of missing West Valley City mom Susan Cox Powell.

The Tooele County Sheriff’s office did not immediately identify the body found in the desert near Stockton. It is customary for law enforcement to wait until dental or DNA records are received to avoid falsely reporting the identity of the body.

Tooele County Sheriff’s Lt. Travis Sharmann told The Deseret News that the remains were found by Tooele Attorney Doug Hogan’s Sunday at around 5 p.m. while checking spring runoff in the area where his family runs a ranch.
 ::snipping2::
Sharmann said he is aware people are speculating the remains may belong to Susan Cox Powell and said that’s one of the reasons authorities are withholding any details about the body until Monday afternoon. Because police have Susan’s DNA and dental records, it will not take long for them to identify whether the remains are hers or not.
 ::snipping2::




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on May 16, 2011, 05:33:00 PM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=960&sid=15569301
Video
Medical examiner analyzing human remains found near Stockton
May 16, 2011

TOOELE — The Utah State Medical Examiner's Office was looking Monday afternoon at human remains found near Stockton.

Initial indications, based on a pair of jeans found near the remains, were that the person was male, said Tooele County Sheriff Frank Park.

The remains were collected over a wide area in a field. They were believed to spread out by water runoff and animals.
 ::snipping2::
No identification was found with the remains.

Officials have already said they do not believe the remains are those of a missing Dugway soldier, Spec. Joseph Bushling. And if the victim is confirmed to be male, it would eliminate the possibility of being missing West Valley mother Susan Powell.

Park said he did not know of anyone from to the area where the remains were found, who had been reported missing recently.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on May 16, 2011, 07:16:55 PM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/UPDATE-Mens-clothing-found-with-Tooele-County/OMB42o-CbEWRkMdNL4AVkA.cspx
UPDATE: Men's clothing found with Tooele County remains
May 16, 2011

Investigators say men's clothing were found with human remains discovered in a field three miles west of Stockton in Tooele County.

"They found some bones intact, others were scattered," said Tooele County Sheriff, Fran Park.
 ::snipping2::
The discovery sparked speculation the remains might be Susan Cox Powell, who has been missing since December of 2009.

The discovery of men's clothing on the body suggests that it might not be Powell, although investigators have yet to absolutely determine the gender of the body or how long it might have been there.

Initial reports suggest the body may have been there between two and three years.

"The body has been there long enough that decomposition has moved particular body parts around," said Tooele County Sheriff Frank Park.

The remains were removed from the field May 16.  Detectives are looking at the bones to identify the victim.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: meshuggener on May 17, 2011, 04:35:31 PM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/UPDATE-Mens-clothing-found-with-Tooele-County/OMB42o-CbEWRkMdNL4AVkA.cspx
UPDATE: Men's clothing found with Tooele County remains
May 16, 2011

Investigators say men's clothing were found with human remains discovered in a field three miles west of Stockton in Tooele County.

"They found some bones intact, others were scattered," said Tooele County Sheriff, Fran Park.
 ::snipping2::
The discovery sparked speculation the remains might be Susan Cox Powell, who has been missing since December of 2009.

The discovery of men's clothing on the body suggests that it might not be Powell, although investigators have yet to absolutely determine the gender of the body or how long it might have been there.

Initial reports suggest the body may have been there between two and three years.

"The body has been there long enough that decomposition has moved particular body parts around," said Tooele County Sheriff Frank Park.

The remains were removed from the field May 16.  Detectives are looking at the bones to identify the victim.
 ::snipping2::



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: meshuggener on May 17, 2011, 04:36:50 PM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/UPDATE-Mens-clothing-found-with-Tooele-County/OMB42o-CbEWRkMdNL4AVkA.cspx
UPDATE: Men's clothing found with Tooele County remains
May 16, 2011

Investigators say men's clothing were found with human remains discovered in a field three miles west of Stockton in Tooele County.

"They found some bones intact, others were scattered," said Tooele County Sheriff, Fran Park.
 ::snipping2::
The discovery sparked speculation the remains might be Susan Cox Powell, who has been missing since December of 2009.

The discovery of men's clothing on the body suggests that it might not be Powell, although investigators have yet to absolutely determine the gender of the body or how long it might have been there.

Initial reports suggest the body may have been there between two and three years.

"The body has been there long enough that decomposition has moved particular body parts around," said Tooele County Sheriff Frank Park.

The remains were removed from the field May 16.  Detectives are looking at the bones to identify the victim.
 ::snipping2::


The remains found are that of a male and are not Susan Powell.

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/susan-cox-powell-tooele-county-sheriff-confirms-body-found-is-male


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on May 17, 2011, 04:46:48 PM
Thanks for the update meshuggener.  Somewhere there will be a family or friends getting sad news , but hope they at least know where he is now.    ::MonkeyAngel::    And Susan Powell is still missing.  I hope she can be found soon.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Curly on May 17, 2011, 09:42:02 PM
Welcome messhugenner...great name lmao!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Sister on May 18, 2011, 06:50:56 AM
Thanks for the update meshuggener.  Somewhere there will be a family or friends getting sad news , but hope they at least know where he is now.    ::MonkeyAngel::    And Susan Powell is still missing.  I hope she can be found soon.
Welcome messhuggener!
Yes Muffy, someone is now able to bring their loved one home.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: meshuggener on May 30, 2011, 02:51:31 PM
Thanks for the update meshuggener.  Somewhere there will be a family or friends getting sad news , but hope they at least know where he is now.    ::MonkeyAngel::    And Susan Powell is still missing.  I hope she can be found soon.
Welcome messhuggener!
Yes Muffy, someone is now able to bring their loved one home.

Sister - has there been an update on this deceased person?  Any identification?

I'm a long time lurker on SM and love being here and all the monkeys!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 03, 2011, 06:18:41 PM
The Suncadia remains found in Washington on Sept. 6, 2010 (mentioned on pg. 2 post# 26) have been ID'd as Kerry May 22, missing from Seattle since 1972 WoW
http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911/2011/06/03/suncadia-remains-identified-as-missing-seattle-woman/


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: starwynn on June 06, 2011, 07:07:29 PM
The Suncadia remains found in Washington on Sept. 6, 2010 (mentioned on pg. 2 post# 26) have been ID'd as Kerry May 22, missing from Seattle since 1972 WoW
http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911/2011/06/03/suncadia-remains-identified-as-missing-seattle-woman/

Well, that means that no matter how long, there's still hope for finding the lost!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Wyks on June 09, 2011, 11:15:31 PM
The Suncadia remains found in Washington on Sept. 6, 2010 (mentioned on pg. 2 post# 26) have been ID'd as Kerry May 22, missing from Seattle since 1972 WoW
http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911/2011/06/03/suncadia-remains-identified-as-missing-seattle-woman/

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::  1972 ???

Hoping this brings comfort to the family of Kerry May. 



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Wyks on June 10, 2011, 01:42:44 AM

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Missing-or-Found/Susan_Powell2.jpg)





Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on July 20, 2011, 02:06:59 AM

BLOCKED WEBSITE


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on July 20, 2011, 02:20:41 AM
Susan Powell's Father-In-Law To Post Private Journals Online

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/14/susan-cox-powell_n_898326.html#s308885&title=Susan_Cox_Powell


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 18, 2011, 01:12:02 PM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20521043,00.html
Susan Powell Disappearance: Possible Break in 2009 Case
August 18, 2011

For the first time in a case that has baffled police for nearly two years, a credible lead may have emerged in the Susan Powell disappearance.

"A team of West Valley Police Department detectives will arrive in Ely, Nev., and its surrounding area, to conduct a search and investigate the information received," says a statement released Thursday by police and reported by Utah's KSL Newsradio.
 ::snipping2::
The search for Susan will take place Friday, according to West Valley Police Sgt. Mike Powell (no relation), adding, "We've received some credible information that definitely needs some follow up. We want the public to be aware of what's going on."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Blonde on August 18, 2011, 01:12:41 PM
Susan Powell Disappearance: Possible Break in 2009 Case

By Stephen M. Silverman

Thursday August 18, 2011 12:10 PM EDT

For the first time in a case that has baffled police for nearly two years, a credible lead may have emerged in the Susan Powell disappearance.

"A team of West Valley Police Department detectives will arrive in Ely, Nev., and its surrounding area, to conduct a search and investigate the information received," says a statement released Thursday by police and reported by Utah's KSL Newsradio.




At the time the Utah woman vanished, her husband, Joshua Powell – who initially refused to cooperate with authorities – told investigators he last saw her at their house southwest of Salt Lake City on the night of Sunday, Dec. 6, when he took their then-2- and 4-year-old sons for an overnight camping trip.
::snipping2::



http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20521043,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+people%2Fheadlines+%28PEOPLE.com%3A+Top+Headlines%29&utm_content=My+Yahoo


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 18, 2011, 01:14:25 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/break-missing-mom-susan-powell-case/story?id=14333638
Possible Break in the Case of Missing Utah Mom Susan Powell
August 18, 2011

A new lead in the nearly two-year-old case of missing Utah mom Susan Powell has investigators scrambling to Nevada, where they say they have a fresh lead that might help solve the mysterious missing person's case.

"We have received some information, a tip, that we're going to be following up on, and it's information regarding Susan Powell," said Utah's West Valley City Police Sgt. Michael Powell, who is not related to the missing woman.

"We will be in Ely, Nev., tomorrow with a team of detectives," he said.

Sgt. Powell declined to say whether they believe the missing mother might be dead or alive, or comment on the nature of the tip.

Probe Into Susan Powell Disappearance Heads to Ely, Nev.

The Nevada town where investigators will soon be searching is nearly 250 miles southwest of where Susan Powell, then 28, was last seen on Dec. 6, 2009, at the West Valley City, Utah, home she shared with her husband Josh Powell and their two young sons, who were 2 and 4 at the time.
 ::snipping2::
Video at Link


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 18, 2011, 01:17:45 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705389385/Possible-lead-in-Susan-Cox-Powell-missing-persons-case.html
Possible lead in Susan Cox Powell missing persons case
August 18, 2011

WEST VALLEY CITY — West Valley Police on Thursday morning announced a possible lead in the investigation into missing West Valley mother Susan Cox Powell who disappeared more than a year ago.

"A team of West Valley Police Department detectives will arrive in Ely, Nev., and its surrounding area, to conduct a search and investigate the information received," according to a statement from West Valley police.
he search will be conducted Friday. West Valley Police Sgt. Mike Powell said he was limited in the information he could release Thursday.

"We've received some credible information that definitely needs some follow up," he said. "We want the public to be aware of what's going on."

Police were expected to release more information about what area was being searched on Friday.

Chuck Cox, Susan's father, said Thursday morning that he had not been informed about the lead in Ely. He said he has been in contact with West Valley police "about every week or so and they haven't mentioned anything."

Cox also said Josh Powell had issued a restraining order against him.

"I cannot approach him or the children," he said.

Cox said he had a court hearing next week about the restraining order.
 ::snipping2::
Hellewell said friends and family of Powell's have planned an event on Saturday to remind the public of Susan Powell's disappearance and the $10,000 reward that has been offered in the case. Currently, that will go ahead as planned.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on August 19, 2011, 12:57:41 AM
Susan Powell's Father-In-Law To Post Private Journals Online

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/14/susan-cox-powell_n_898326.html#s308885&title=Susan_Cox_Powell
Anyone now if the handwriting in these journals has been verified to BE Susan's specifically ?
The Powell's have been so critical of their daughter in law, and could have fabricated writings in a journal.

You know where I am going with us ! Powell's could be more inductees to the "liars" hall of fame in Orlando IMO !

I cannot accept that her husband went camping in Dec. ????? at 12 30 am ? Many of us were not born yesterday. HELLO !


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 19, 2011, 08:04:10 AM
I was thinking of Susan just the other day as I skimmed over the threads in MP ... the case is sickening. I doubt there will be justice, even if her remains are found.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 19, 2011, 08:29:12 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/19/earlyshow/main20094518.shtml
August 19, 2011 8:13 AM
Break in case of Utah mom missing 20 months?

(CBS/AP)

Utah police say they plan to launch a search of the remote mountain desert around Ely, Nev., on Friday in hopes of finding a Utah mother missing since 2009.

Susan Cox Powell was last seen at her West Valley City home on Dec. 6, 2009.

West Valley City police Sgt. Mike Powell says the search is based on new, credible information obtained by investigators.
 ::snipping2::

Capt. Tom McLachlan, of the West Valley City Police Department said in Dec. 2010, "Right now, Josh really is our only person of interest. He was the last one to see Susan."

They may be suspicious of Josh Powell, but he's never been named a suspect, and since his wife's disappearance, he has had custody of the couple's kids and moved with them to Washington State. In 20 months, there have been no arrests, no leads, and no evidence had surfaced until word came of the search that was to begin today.

Investigators will hold a press conference there this morning. They are saying little about the tip that lead them to Nevada. But on Thursday, Josh Powell offered his take, saying, "I couldn't be happier to see this break in the case. I think more of the truth needs to come out there - more about Susan, and possibly even more about our family."

As for Susan's father, Chuck Cox says any news is positive news.

"We don't think she's coming back," he said, "But we have hope that she's coming back."

On "The Early Show" Judy Cox, Susan Powell's mother, called the years of searching for answers "a long struggle."

"It's something you think about every day, and realize you have to put your foot forward each day as you get up and realizing it's really happening, and you hope it's just a bad dream, but it's definitely a nightmare, and it is hard," she said.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 19, 2011, 09:24:32 AM
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ned=us&tab=wl&q=West%20Valley%20City%20UT%20to%20Ely%2C%20NV


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: seahorse on August 19, 2011, 11:11:52 AM
BLOCKED WEBSITE


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: seahorse on August 19, 2011, 11:15:03 AM

BLOCKED WEBSITE


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 19, 2011, 11:16:52 AM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=16872231&autostart=y
Family of Susan Powell await answers in press conference
August 19, 2011

Ely, Nev. -- Friday morning, West Valley Police are expected to reveal what took them to Ely, Nevada in the Susan Powell case. Many are wondering: will it heap more suspicion on her husband, Josh, or will it be vindication for him?

Police have been very tight-lipped about what they are searching for in Ely, but Josh Powell says he is anticipating vindication. Susan's parents had not been contacted in advance about the search, and neither had Josh nor his dad.

Steve Powell, Josh's father, is saying this apparent search supports his theory, which is that Susan Powell ran away with missing St. George man Steven Koecher. Steven claims he's had people even search in Brazil, since Koecher has ties there. He says if there is something in Ely, though, it makes sense because Koecher was in Ruby Valley, Nevada, north of Ely, the day after Susan disappeared.

"Maybe he went over to Ruby Valley on his way to Ely to rent an apartment for them to stay in, or whatever. But it's about halfway between Salt Lake, where she disappeared, and Las Vegas, where he disappeared," Steve said.

Meanwhile, Josh says that news of a credible lead in the case is the best news he's heard in nearly two years, calling it potential vindication. But he also spoke in frustration that he's been "kept in the dark" by the cops.
 ::snipping2::
Susan's father says he's not sure what this significant lead is, he says police have told him very little about it. Chuck Cox tells us that he's not aware of any connection Susan would have with Ely. He's says he's anxious to know why West Valley Police are headed there today.
 ::snipping2::
Again, it is unclear what police are going to reveal, but the press conference is set for 10 a.m. Mountain Time.
Video at Link


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 19, 2011, 11:22:28 AM
seahorse -  I'm not sure if you're aware that the last two posts you've made in this thread are considered "Blocked Websites", as they are part of the Righthaven Lawsuits and  we don't want to link to them.  The post by Klaas shows how to see which are blocked websites, which sometimes can be done by previewing before you post and you'll see the link has stars as shown below.  Also, there is a list at the righthaven victims link you can refer to and avoid posting from those sources.  Thanks!  MB

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9451.msg1303911#msg1303911
Please read the link below.  There are a number of websites that we are now blocking.  If you see a http:/** or a ** when you try and post a website then it has been blocked.  Please read the entire article at this link:

http://righthavenvictims.blogspot.com/p/participating-newspapers.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 19, 2011, 11:26:10 AM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/slc/story/LIVE-VIDEO-Continuing-coverage-of-Susan-Powell/Ee0SsyR9Y0Cpwd4IPjBP2w.cspx
LIVE VIDEO: Continuing coverage of Susan Powell

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (ABC 4 News) - ABC 4 is presenting live coverage on the air and streaming online after a possible lead in the Susan Powell disappearance was announced.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Kimmy53 on August 19, 2011, 11:52:53 AM
Praying that Susan will be found and brought home.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 19, 2011, 11:55:08 AM
Praying that Susan will be found and brought home.   ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 19, 2011, 12:12:46 PM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Josh-Powell-speaks-about-new-information-on-wifes/BJr2eknrI0W8RSOZ3y9sIA.cspx
Josh Powell speaks about new information on wife's disappearance
August 19, 2011
Updated: 9:57 am | Published: 9:33 am

SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) - Josh Powell spoke to a Seattle area TV reporter on Thursday regarding the disappearance of his wife Susan Cox Powell. It was his first televised interview for Powell since he was named a person of interest in the case.

Susan Cox Powell, a mother of two boys has been missing for nearly two years from her West Valley City home. Josh told KOMO-TV reporter Mark Miller that he welcomes the renewed search in the remote mountain desert around Ely, Nev.
 ::snipping2::
On Thursday, Josh said he was overjoyed by the news of the Nevada search.

Josh and his father have said they believe Susan Powell might have run off with another man.
Video at Link



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: seahorse on August 19, 2011, 12:27:01 PM
seahorse -  I'm not sure if you're aware that the last two posts you've made in this thread are considered "Blocked Websites", as they are part of the Righthaven Lawsuits and  we don't want to link to them.  The post by Klaas shows how to see which are blocked websites, which sometimes can be done by previewing before you post and you'll see the link has stars as shown below.  Also, there is a list at the righthaven victims link you can refer to and avoid posting from those sources.  Thanks!  MB

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9451.msg1303911#msg1303911
Please read the link below.  There are a number of websites that we are now blocking.  If you see a http:/** or a ** when you try and post a website then it has been blocked.  Please read the entire article at this link:

http://righthavenvictims.blogspot.com/p/participating-newspapers.html

Thank-you, I printed the list out. Sorry.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on August 19, 2011, 12:39:24 PM

Police search Nevada desert for missing Utah mom
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ELY, Nev. Utah investigators are searching an area of a remote mountain desert around Ely, Nev., in hopes of finding a missing mother.

Susan Cox Powell was last seen at her West Valley City, Utah, home on Dec. 6, 2009.

Authorities say they searched the Nevada desert area before and came back Friday because what they found earlier led to them believe it would be worth doing a more intensive search. Four detectives planned to search the desert Friday, but they refused to give any indication what they were looking for or what the new information was.

http://bit.ly/opcGzi
 The search is on Bureau of Land



Read more: http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2011/08/19/2147777/utah-police-launch-nevada-search.html#ixzz1VUen0sBl


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on August 19, 2011, 12:48:03 PM
WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (ABC 4 News) - ABC 4 has the entire press conference for the break in the Susan Powell case.

A text transcript of the press conference follows.


What you are doing where you are standing, follow the directions and guidance that is going to be provided. I will have assistance from the sheriff's office as well as the representative from the BLM to help keep us in a steady line so that we don't fall far from the path. We don't want anybody to be
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/VIDEO-Transcript-of-Susan-Powell-Press-Conference/Ee0SsyR9Y0Cpwd4IPjBP2w.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 19, 2011, 01:06:22 PM
WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (ABC 4 News) - ABC 4 has the entire press conference for the break in the Susan Powell case.

A text transcript of the press conference follows.


What you are doing where you are standing, follow the directions and guidance that is going to be provided. I will have assistance from the sheriff's office as well as the representative from the BLM to help keep us in a steady line so that we don't fall far from the path. We don't want anybody to be
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/VIDEO-Transcript-of-Susan-Powell-Press-Conference/Ee0SsyR9Y0Cpwd4IPjBP2w.cspx

Thanks LEP

I am left wondering why LE held a press conference.  What new was revealed?

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 19, 2011, 06:19:29 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44203471/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
Police search Nev. desert for missing mom Susan Powell
Husband told police that wife vanished after he left her at home to go camping with sons

updated 2 hours 27 minutes ago
ELY, Nev. — Investigators returned Friday to the remote Nevada desert in their search for a Utah mom missing since 2009, after an earlier check of the area yielded information.

Searchers began the day looking through abandoned mine shafts a few miles west of Ely off Highway 50, where the steep, rugged mountains are laced with old mine tunnels.

Authorities said the previous discovery led them to believe it would be worth doing a more intensive search.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 19, 2011, 06:40:05 PM
Interesting...if they find her I suppose Joshy will blame it on Steven Koecher :roll:

« Reply #108 on: December 13, 2010, 12:35:59 PM »
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7013.msg1275702#msg1275702


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on August 19, 2011, 06:58:15 PM
Interesting...if they find her I suppose Joshy will blame it on Steven Koecher :roll:

« Reply #108 on: December 13, 2010, 12:35:59 PM »
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7013.msg1275702#msg1275702

nut i think your right joshy is ............
Missing Person, Susan Powell. THE SEARCH IN THE WEST DESERT
4 hours ago | Salt Lake City, Utah | Vetting explained
Posted by:
SarahBethB

  ::snipping2::
With almost two years having passed, the people of the Salt Lake Valley have not forgotten Susan. You can often see bill boards, and flyers still posted asking for tips on her disappearance. This morning at 10:00 AM (MST) the West Valley Police held a press conference in Ely, Nevada. Stating that they have “credible information” that led them to begin searching the middle of the Nevada Desert. In an interview July 14th Josh Powell and his father opened up for the first time in over a year. Josh’s statement which strikes me as odd now: “I mean… it has been hard. Ya know? It’s a hard 2 years….. it’s been lonely. Ya know? I mean you know Susan is my wife.”. Odd, because the search to take place today began on a road dubbed “loneliest road in America.”
 ::snipping2::

Also announced today was Josh Powell obtaining a temporary restraining order against his father-in-law Chuck Cox. Powell allegedly claims that Cox has been following him to the local Lowes in Puyallup, Washington. On July 23, 2011 Cox approached Josh Powell inside the home improvement store and asked: “If I don't startle them and be careful and be nice can I give them a hug?”, Cox states that Josh refused and gave no reason as to why. Cox was served on August 11th with the temporary order, a hearing in the case is scheduled for August 23rd to determine if the order should become permanent.
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-654420?ref=feeds%2Flatest

july 14th interveiw
Josh Powell family to publish teen diaries of missing wife Susan Cox-Powell
 Published: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:51 p.m. MDT
By Emiley Morgan, Deseret News
PG1 of 3
 ::snipping2::
WEST VALLEY CITY — The father-in-law of a missing West Valley mother says her journals as a teenager show she was "sexually open" and he plans to publish those personal entries on a website.
Steve Powell said his opinion comes from reading more than 2,000 pages of journal entries written by Susan Cox-Powell, who has been missing since Dec. 6, 2009.
The diary entries were primarily written in the girl's adolescence through the age of 20.
 ::snipping2::
"People don't know there are two distinct sides to Susan," Steve Powell told the "Today" show. "She was … an open person in a sexual way with the opposite sex."
"I want to make it clear that she would not leave her family," Susan Cox-Powell's father, Chuck Cox, said on the show. "She was not sexually active or promiscuous or anything. Those allegations are completely baseless."
Cox said he "cannot believe" Steve Powell would read the journals, much less make them available to the public.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on August 19, 2011, 07:00:09 PM
july 14th interveiw link
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705376246/Josh-Powell-family-to-publish-teen-diaries-of-missing-wife-Susan-Cox-Powell.html

where they are looking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_50_in_Nevada


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on August 20, 2011, 01:32:44 PM
i hope they find something,susan, evidence susan was in area, anything connected to susan

Story photo gallery
 
Police to continue search in Susan Powell case into Saturday
 
Aug. 20, 2011 33 photos
http://www.deseretnews.com/photo/gallery/story/705389438/Police-to-continue-search-in-Susan-Powell-case-into-Saturday.html?photoId=566371



Police to continue search in Susan Powell case into Saturday
New info from older search warrant led detectives to Nevada
 Published: Saturday, Aug. 20, 2011 12:49 a.m. MDT

Police released few details at a Friday morning news conference about why they were in Nevada, but the sergeant later explained that new information from a search warrant in the Susan Powell case prompted them to head to the Silver State.

"We were able to obtain information from a prior search warrant," Sgt. Mike Powell said. He would not specify when or where the warrant was served or whether the information was a result from crime lab tests. At one point, he said the warrant was served during "the initial part of the investigation" and said the information received was "fairly recent."

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705389438/Police-to-continue-search-in-Susan-Powell-case-into-Saturday.html

man what an area to search
shortcuts to some of the pics
http://www.deseretnews.com/photo/gallery/story/705389438/Police-to-continue-search-in-Susan-Powell-case-into-Saturday.html?photoId=566184

http://www.deseretnews.com/photo/gallery/story/705389438/Police-to-continue-search-in-Susan-Powell-case-into-Saturday.html?photoId=565507

http://www.deseretnews.com/photo/gallery/story/705389438/Police-to-continue-search-in-Susan-Powell-case-into-Saturday.html?photoId=566360

http://www.deseretnews.com/photo/gallery/story/705389438/Police-to-continue-search-in-Susan-Powell-case-into-Saturday.html?photoId=566372


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 20, 2011, 01:58:54 PM
Josh Powell questions detectives' motives in Ely search
By Sarah Dallof and Paul Nelson
August 19th, 2011 @ 10:05pm

SALT LAKE CITY — The nearly information-less press conferences held by West Valley police about their Nevada search for Susan Powell are prompting a lot of questions of their true intentions — including ones from Josh Powell. But one retired FBI agent has a theory on what police may have really been searching for.

"It just doesn't seem like they said anything. That's honestly what went through my mind," Josh Powell said in an interview with KSL Newsradio Friday evening.

"I actually thought that they were going to be looking in hotels, apartments, you know things like that," he continued. "That's what I was hoping they'd be looking for — for people; frankly, for Susan."   :roll:

But according to retired FBI special agent Lou Bertram, this may be a strategic play by West Valley City Police aimed at Josh Powell — one that's been tough on friends and family.
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more at link:
Video of JP above article
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=16885122


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 20, 2011, 02:09:51 PM
The first search took place just off of Highway 50 near a gravel pit below Squaw Peak. Searchers focused on mine shafts. White Pines County Sheriff Dan Watts estimated there are a couple hundred mine shafts in the area.


"We're going to check every one we can get to," Watts said.
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http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=16872231

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&biw=1280&bih=650&q=Squaw+Peak+ely+nv&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x80b1accf9e33ddb9:0xb978ce369618e078,Squaw+Peak&gl=us&ei=9vVPToX7Dcf0gAeawujwBg&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBYQ8gEwAA


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on August 20, 2011, 03:37:46 PM
Interesting...if they find her I suppose Joshy will blame it on Steven Koecher :roll:

« Reply #108 on: December 13, 2010, 12:35:59 PM »
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7013.msg1275702#msg1275702

nut i think your right joshy is ............
Missing Person, Susan Powell. THE SEARCH IN THE WEST DESERT
4 hours ago | Salt Lake City, Utah | Vetting explained
Posted by:
SarahBethB

  ::snipping2::
With almost two years having passed, the people of the Salt Lake Valley have not forgotten Susan. You can often see bill boards, and flyers still posted asking for tips on her disappearance. This morning at 10:00 AM (MST) the West Valley Police held a press conference in Ely, Nevada. Stating that they have “credible information” that led them to begin searching the middle of the Nevada Desert. In an interview July 14th Josh Powell and his father opened up for the first time in over a year. Josh’s statement which strikes me as odd now: “I mean… it has been hard. Ya know? It’s a hard 2 years….. it’s been lonely. Ya know? I mean you know Susan is my wife.”. Odd, because the search to take place today began on a road dubbed “loneliest road in America.”
 ::snipping2::

Also announced today was Josh Powell obtaining a temporary restraining order against his father-in-law Chuck Cox. Powell allegedly claims that Cox has been following him to the local Lowes in Puyallup, Washington. On July 23, 2011 Cox approached Josh Powell inside the home improvement store and asked: “If I don't startle them and be careful and be nice can I give them a hug?”, Cox states that Josh refused and gave no reason as to why. Cox was served on August 11th with the temporary order, a hearing in the case is scheduled for August 23rd to determine if the order should become permanent.
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-654420?ref=feeds%2Flatest

july 14th interveiw
Josh Powell family to publish teen diaries of missing wife Susan Cox-Powell
 Published: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:51 p.m. MDT
By Emiley Morgan, Deseret News
PG1 of 3
 ::snipping2::
WEST VALLEY CITY — The father-in-law of a missing West Valley mother says her journals as a teenager show she was "sexually open" and he plans to publish those personal entries on a website.
Steve Powell said his opinion comes from reading more than 2,000 pages of journal entries written by Susan Cox-Powell, who has been missing since Dec. 6, 2009.
The diary entries were primarily written in the girl's adolescence through the age of 20.
 ::snipping2::
"People don't know there are two distinct sides to Susan," Steve Powell told the "Today" show. "She was … an open person in a sexual way with the opposite sex."
"I want to make it clear that she would not leave her family," Susan Cox-Powell's father, Chuck Cox, said on the show. "She was not sexually active or promiscuous or anything. Those allegations are completely baseless."
Cox said he "cannot believe" Steve Powell would read the journals, much less make them available to the public.


http://www.facebook.com/groups/225335012614/ (http://www.facebook.com/groups/225335012614/)

Help Us Find Steven Koecher


Q. What about him disappearing with Susan Powell, because they were both from Utah, disappeared a week apart and were the same religion?
A. There is verifiable information that discounts the Powell family theory:
1. Steven did live in the same town (West Valley City) but for only two months, in 2007.
2. His shared apartment was five miles east of the Powell home.
3. The distance means they didn't attend the same LDS meetinghose or interact in the same neighborhood.
4. He subsequently moved ten miles north (central SLC), further north to Bountiful and then 300+ miles south (St George).
5. St George and WVC LE have met. They found no calls, matching financials, interactions or any other connections in information confidential to each investigation.
6. Steven's passport was among his personal belongings and was not used to travel outside the US.
7. TSA/ticket records show Steven did not board any commercial flights.
8. When Steven drove to Ruby Valley, all of his stops were along I-15. WVC is miles west of I-15.
9. Steven's friends and family were aware of his social interactions. None were with Powell.
10. Powell was last seen on the evening of Dec 6th, 2009, at her WVC home. Steven's car was parked 441 miles away, on Dec 13th 2009 and remained there for several days.
11. Several people have independently confirmed where Steven was, on Dec 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th and 11th. His whereabouts are also confirmed by receipts, bank records, and official LDS church records.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 20, 2011, 04:09:45 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/search-missing-utah-mother-susan-powell-frustrates-father/story?id=14347257
Search for Missing Utah Mother Susan Powell Frustrates Father
August 20, 2011

Detectives are scouring rocky hillsides and abandoned mine tunnels in the Nevada desert today in a new search for any signs of Susan Powell, but the missing Utah mother's father says he is frustrated police haven't given him more details.

And if police know what they're looking for in the hunt for Susan Powell, they aren't telling reporters, either, despite having invited members of the media to accompany them on the search.

"The specifics of the search warrant, I'm not able to address," West Valley, Utah, Police Sgt. Mike Powell told ABC affiliate KTVX in Salt Lake City. "I'm not able to answer that directly at this point. What I can tell you is obviously things don't happen overnight."

Chuck Cox, Susan Powell's father, told ABC affiliate KOMO-TV in Seattle the West Valley police announcement gave him no confidence in the new effort.

"I was disappointed in the news conference, they didn't tell me anything," he said. "That's basically what I thought was what's the point."

He said that as far as he knows his daughter had never been in the area around Ely, Nev., where police began searching this week.
 ::snipping2::

Video at Link


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 20, 2011, 04:12:06 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/20/earlyshow/saturday/main20094952.shtml?tag=cbsnewsSectionContent.1
Caves, mines the focus in search for Utah mom
August 20, 2011

Video at Link


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 20, 2011, 04:15:42 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705389498/Search-for-Susan-Powell-wraps-up-in-Ely-Nevada.html
Search for Susan Powell wraps up in Ely, Nevada
August 20, 2011

ELY, Nevada — Law enforcement officials wrapped up their second day of searching for West Valley City mother Susan Cox Powell by documenting and photographing several mine shafts near Ely, Nev.

On Saturday, they went to the Ward historic mining district, which is about 30 miles south of Ely. They spent less than an hour there. They also went to an abandoned warehouse still filled with core samples from drilling.
Investigators took photographs and wrote down coordinates of the various areas they looked at, which will be further analyzed when they get back to Utah.

Investigators planned to document and search abandoned mining shafts for about a half day, but finished up early.

When asked why the media was invited to join the search in Ely, West Valley City Police Sgt. Mike Powell, no relation to Susan Cox Powell, said, “I wanted to bring it (the case of missing Susan Cox Powell) back to people’s mind and get it out there again.”

Sgt. Powell plus four detectives from the West Valley Police Department, along with representatives from the White Pines County Sheriff's Office and the Bureau of Land Management out Ely, searched the rugged terrain about five miles outside of Ely until about 5 p.m. Friday.

"We were able to obtain information from a prior search warrant," Sgt. Mike Powell said Friday. He would not specify when or where the warrant was served or whether the information was a result from crime lab tests. At one point, he said the warrant was served during "the initial part of the investigation" and said the information received was "fairly recent."

Sgt. Powell indicated detectives are looking for something specific, but would not specify.

"This is the first time we've been here to follow up on information that led us out here," the sergeant said Friday, yet also said officers had earlier taken a "pre-emptive drive" to Ely. "This is definitely not a cold case."

He said detectives "felt strongly that we needed to follow" up on information that led them to the area.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: CarolF on August 20, 2011, 08:27:54 PM
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/128127608.html

Rally for Susan Powell Triggers shouting match and accusations.

Susan Powell's family were passing out flyer's in Puyallup, Wa today.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on August 21, 2011, 08:56:21 PM
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/128127608.html

Rally for Susan Powell Triggers shouting match and accusations.

Susan Powell's family were passing out flyer's in Puyallup, Wa today.
Thnx for posting this vedeo.
IMO her husband Josh is very unstable.
Mr. Powell, his Dad is a creep ! He reminds me of a
male, Cindy Anthony. He would not even let cuzins visit cuzins,
innocent children, who are also their blood, not just the Powell's.

I have the worst feeling about Susan, and it is not good. Sas, very sad.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: CarolynV on August 22, 2011, 02:01:29 AM
Long, but worth it, and could shed some light.

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/finally-light-shed-on-why-susan-cox-powell-feared-her-father-law


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 22, 2011, 12:54:38 PM
:roll:

Husband of Susan Powell Concocts Police Conspiracy Theory
August 22, 2011 12:55 AM EDT
The husband of missing woman, Susan Powell, wants to meet with the FBI regarding his missing wife. This all comes conveniently close to the searches in Ely, Nevada which have been deemed as "successful" by police. This update comes with some more confusing behavior displayed by Josh Powell. Why is the husband of the missing Utah mother acting so strangely?

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Now the husband of the missing woman is saying that he will not meet with police on this matter, as he has remained uncooperative with their investigation. He wants to meet with the FBI but says he wants them to pay for his lawyer fees as well. It seems a little strange that he believes he's in the position to make demands like this, considering he is a person of interest and may eventually become the prime suspect in this missing persons case.
MORE.........
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 He also says that he believes that investigators have chosen to search the Ely desert and mines because they are planning on planting evidence against him.  :roll:
MORE
http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474980010306


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on August 22, 2011, 04:24:22 PM
He had nearly 24 hours to do his deed, get rid of the body many miles away.

I am soooo curious about what their new information is.

Maybe someone remembered Josh during that cold night in Ely, Nevada? Maybe something belonging to him or Susan's was found?

Was Susan found and the police are just unnerving Josh so that he confesses, or become scared now that LE is looking in the right place this time?



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on August 23, 2011, 10:59:38 AM
The Powells are all morons in my opinion !
I read that NOW Mr. Powell wanted to make public her personal journal from age 20 ?
Dang dude your son did something so stop the clowning already !


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on August 23, 2011, 11:02:17 AM
He had nearly 24 hours to do his deed, get rid of the body many miles away.

I am soooo curious about what their new information is.

Maybe someone remembered Josh during that cold night in Ely, Nevada? Maybe something belonging to him or Susan's was found?

Was Susan found and the police are just unnerving Josh so that he confesses, or become scared now that LE is looking in the right place this time?


IF he dumped her in the desert, her body will be so decomposed that it will most likely not be identifiable. ::MonkeyMad::
Josh is a person of interest, and has his children ? Are they next ? Who knows ? The Anthony virus seems so contagious. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on August 23, 2011, 11:52:25 PM
so josh is someone getting close to the truth,you seem a little more paranoid,since
the ely mine exploration

Restraining orders issued to both sides in missing woman case
A court commissioner on Tuesday ordered that the husband and the father of a Utah woman missing for nearly two years keep 500 feet away from each other.

By Gene Johnson
The Associated Press
 ::snipping2::
The most serious claim was that Cox showed up at a home-improvement store where Powell and the boys were attending a workshop last month and mouthed the words "You're dead" at Powell — something Cox adamantly denied.

"He knew we would be there," Powell told the commissioner. "He has been stalking us to come into the places we would be to inject himself into our lives."
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2015994742_missingmom24.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 24, 2011, 07:08:03 AM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Washington-state-court-rules-on-protective-order/q6Z-bSHiL0Oa5eU0HVzbzw.cspx
Washington state court rules on protective order against Susan Powell's father
Updated: 8/23 9:51 pm | Published: 8/23 9:44 pm

(http://www.abc4.com/media/lib/5/2/7/3/273e6085-61dd-4392-8332-567f29420423/Story.jpg)
 ::snipping2::
A Superior Court commissioner denied Josh's request for a protective order against Chuck Cox, but told them both to keep 500-feet away from each other.

But the commissioner's order said nothing about Steven Powell. Just last Saturday Steven crashed a "honk and wave" event in a grocery store parking lot and tried to draw Chuck into a fight. Among other things, he accused Chuck of spreading lies about the Powell's.

The order also maintains the isolation of the Susan's two little boys, Charlie and Braydon. The judge's order effectively leaves grandparents Chuck and Judy Cox with no chance of seeing them even though they live just a few miles away in in the same town. (Shortly after Susan disappeared, Josh pulled up stakes and moved in with his father in Puyallup, Washington.)

Chuck Cox said, "He was able to include Charlie and Braydon on here -- that I cannot see them. I have to stay 500 feet away from them. I can't see them which is sad."

That the commissioner substituted a mutual anti-harassment order for the sought-after protective order is a small victory for the Cox family. But it is also a bitter victory. Their daughter is still missing and now her children have been formally cutoff from their side of the family by a court.

West Valley police say Josh Powell has refused to cooperate with their investigation into the disappearance of his wife. He remains the only "person of interest" in the case.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 24, 2011, 07:11:14 AM
http://news.officialwire.com/main.php?action=posted_news&rid=27475
Court Order For Husband, Father Of Missing Woman
Published on 24 August 2011

 ::snipping2::
In court Tuesday, Cox's lawyer said his client had never threatened Powell and had only tried to hug his grandchildren.

The dispute comes after authorities recently searched a network of abandoned mines outside Ely, Nev., but didn't reveal any new evidence.


Those poor kids.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 25, 2011, 08:40:03 AM
OMG,that b******...  ::MonkeyShocked::   :smt063

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/
Susan Powell: Husband Speaks Out for First Time
Josh Powell gives his first interview since his wife disappeared in 2009.
8/25/2011


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 25, 2011, 08:42:07 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/susan-powell-mystery-father-law-shocker-love-interest/story?id=14376963
Susan Powell Mystery: Father-In-Law Shock Love Interest Claims
By ABBIE BOUDREAU, JIM VOJTECH and KEVIN DOLAK
Aug. 25, 2011
The father-in-law of missing Utah mom Susan Powell said the two had a highly flirtatious relationship that was unknown to his son, who says that he had nothing to do with the 2009 disappearance of his "unstable" and "very sexual" wife.

Steven Powell, Susan Powell's father-in-law, alleged that his missing daughter-in-law would frequently make passes at him and that he had a relationship with her that was "a little beyond the pale."

"There was really a disconnect between the Susan who was a faithful, loving wife, and the Susan who was a very flirtatious, sexual being," Steven Powell told ABC News. "Father-in-law - daughter-in-law flirting with each other, maybe some sexual touching or whatever. And-- I enjoyed it, frankly. Susan was a joy to be around in so many ways, not just those ways."
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 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 25, 2011, 09:24:01 AM
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/44270107#44270107
Family divided in missing Utah woman case


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 25, 2011, 12:57:19 PM
This is beyond disgusting. Disgusting pigs these Powell's are. I hope they bury themselves.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: CarolF on August 25, 2011, 06:55:23 PM
According to HLN the police are searching the residence of Josh Powell as well as his car.
I hope and pray they find something that will allow them to try him and put him away for a long long time.

I live in the same town and have seen Susan Powell's parents driving around town. They must live close to me. Really brings it into focus when you see the "Missing" message on the window of their car. Washington does not have grandparent rights so the Judge says the children cannot have contact with the Cox's. What a shame, I am sure when all is said and done they have probably heard alot of bad stuff about their mother. I didn't listen to that interview but read what it said here and it turned my stomach about what the Powell's said.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Curly on August 25, 2011, 07:01:19 PM
HLN~   They just let Josh Powell drive off with his kids.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: 4 Donks on August 25, 2011, 07:42:08 PM

BLOCKED WEBSITE


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 25, 2011, 07:54:15 PM
Susan's father is on JVM (HLN) right now!!

Janet
4:45 PM PT


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Buckeye on August 25, 2011, 08:12:00 PM
This is beyond disgusting. Disgusting pigs these Powell's are. I hope they bury themselves.


Makes you wonder if the old man didn't kidnapper and lock her away somewhere....with the blessings of his son...


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 25, 2011, 09:02:36 PM
This is beyond disgusting. Disgusting pigs these Powell's are. I hope they bury themselves.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: texasmom on August 25, 2011, 09:08:48 PM
This is beyond disgusting. Disgusting pigs these Powell's are. I hope they bury themselves.


Makes you wonder if the old man didn't kidnapper and lock her away somewhere....with the blessings of his son...

I've wondered the same.   ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 25, 2011, 09:50:02 PM
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/komo/article/Police-search-home-of-missing-Puyallup-mom-s-2141721.php
Police search home of missing Puyallup mom's husband
August 25, 2011

PUYALLUP -- A small army of detectives arrived Thursday afternoon to search the Puyallup home of Josh Powell, the husband of missing mom Susan Powell, officials said.

Pierce County sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said about 20 detectives were involved in the search. Half of them are with the Pierce County sheriff and the others are with the West Valley City Police Department in Utah.

Josh Powell, 35, was at home when police arrived and remains at the scene, but he is not being detained, Troyer said. His two young sons are in the backyard of the home being treated to pizza, he added.

Crime scene tape surrounds the home, and a large police forensics van is parked out front of the house.

The search revolves around the teen journals and diaries of Susan Powell that are now in possession of Josh and Steven Powell, according to an ABC News source.

When contacted by KOMO News Thursday afternoon, the missing woman's father, Chuck Cox did not know detectives were searching Josh Powell's  home.
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The search of Josh Powell's home comes comes 20 months after her disappearance on Dec. 6, 2009, from her home in West Valley City, Utah.
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The search of Josh Powell's home comes a day after his father, Steve Powell, said in an ABC News interview that that he interacted "sexually" with Susan before her mysterious 2009 disappearance. He said Susan flirted with him and that he had feelings for her.

"Susan was very sexual with me. She was very flirtatious. I mean, I'm her father-in-law, and she would do a lot of things that, um, she did it. ... We interacted in a lot of sexual ways because Susan enjoys doing  that."

Asked if he was in love with Susan, Steve Powell said, "That's pretty likely, yeah, I think so, and there's no question in my mind that the feelings were mutual."

 ::snipping2::

What a load!!!  Steve and Josh Powell are two of a kind dirt bags imo.











Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 25, 2011, 09:51:49 PM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20523063,00.html
Police Search Home of Husband of Missing Susan Powell
August 21, 2011

About 20 detectives served a search warrant Thursday on the Washington state home of Joshua Powell, whose wife Susan disappeared in 2009.

Joshua Powell, who has been identified as a person of interest in the case, was not detained. The couple's two sons were seen eating pizza in the backyard as the detectives from Utah and Washington searched the Puyallup, Wash., house.

"There will be no arrests today," the Pierce County, Wash., Sheriff's Office said on its Twitter page. "This is a evidence search warrant only."

The search comes amid signs the missing persons investigation is heating up.
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 25, 2011, 09:55:28 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/susan-powell-mystery-police-search-home-missing-utah/story?id=14376963
Susan Powell Mystery: Police Search the Home of Missing Utah Mom's Husband and Father-in-Law
August 25, 2011

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Investigators and forensic specialists were combing the Puyallup, Wash., home, which Powell's 35-year-old husband, Josh Powell, shares with his father, Steven Powell, and has been living with the couple's two young sons, Charlie and Braden.

Josh Powell and his father were being detained while investigators executed a search warrant, the Associated Press reported.

Susan Powell was last seen in her home in 2009, but hasn't been seen or heard from since. While her husband has not been arrested or charged in her disappearance, police said he continues to be considered a person of interest.

Josh Powell maintains that he had nothing to do with the 2009 disappearance of his "unstable" and "very sexual" wife.
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Steven Powell plans to post his daughter-in-law's teenage journals on the website SusanPowell.org; according to the Salt Lake Tribune, he says that the journals show that his daughter-in-law is capable of walking out on her husband and their two sons.
 ::snipping2::
Video at Link


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 25, 2011, 10:11:35 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/susan-powell-mystery-police-search-home-missing-utah/story?id=14376963
Susan Powell Mystery: Police Search the Home of Missing Utah Mom's Husband and Father-in-Law
August 25, 2011

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Investigators and forensic specialists were combing the Puyallup, Wash., home, which Powell's 35-year-old husband, Josh Powell, shares with his father, Steven Powell, and has been living with the couple's two young sons, Charlie and Braden.

Josh Powell and his father were being detained while investigators executed a search warrant, the Associated Press reported.

Susan Powell was last seen in her home in 2009, but hasn't been seen or heard from since. While her husband has not been arrested or charged in her disappearance, police said he continues to be considered a person of interest.

Josh Powell maintains that he had nothing to do with the 2009 disappearance of his "unstable" and "very sexual" wife.

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Steven Powell plans to post his daughter-in-law's teenage journals on the website SusanPowell.org; according to the Salt Lake Tribune, he says that the journals show that his daughter-in-law is capable of walking out on her husband and their two sons.
 
 ::snipping2::

Video at Link


 ::MonkeyMad::

Susan's personal perspectives as a teenager regarding life issues would have evolved over the years.

Steve Powell is despicable!  I almost have some empathy for Josh in regards to the role model that he was subjected to in his formative years.  Almost.  Obviously ... the fruit did not fall far from the tree.

Janet 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on August 25, 2011, 10:37:13 PM
Why did Steve wait until now to make such explicit claims?

Now we know who helped Josh in murdering her and hiding the body that cold night.

I read computers are being taken from their home, hopefully the police will find incriminating evidence in them. It's about time that Josh pay for what he did.

Now, the old guizzer may have been having fantasies with Susan, or is making the stories up to make Susan look bad, so people can fathom that she would run away with a man.

I agree, a teenager's diaries should not be taken in consideration because we all are nuts in our teens, and we grow up.

He would be invading her privacy by reading or publishing them, and I hope someone sues him for what he's got. The diaries were not intended for Steve, or for the public.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 25, 2011, 10:44:02 PM
Why did Steve wait until now to make such explicit claims?

Now we know who helped Josh in murdering her and hiding the body that cold night.

I read computers are being taken from their home, hopefully the police will find incriminating evidence in them. It's about time that Josh pay for what he did.

Now, the old guizzer may have been having fantasies with Susan, or is making the stories up to make Susan look bad, so people can fathom that she would run away with a man.

I agree, a teenager's diaries should not be taken in consideration because we all are nuts in our teens, and we grow up.

He would be invading her privacy by reading or publishing them, and I hope someone sues him for what he's got. The diaries were not intended for Steve, or for the public.



ITA Itaryl Moosee

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on August 26, 2011, 12:33:56 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/25/investigators-search-home-missing-utah-moms-husband-father-in-law/?test=latestnews (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/25/investigators-search-home-missing-utah-moms-husband-father-in-law/?test=latestnews)

Investigators Search Home of Missing Utah Mom's Husband, Father-in-Law

Published August 25, 2011

| Associated Press

PUYALLUP –  Authorities looking into the disappearance of a Utah mother who has been missing for two years say they've gathered evidence from the Washington home where her husband has been living that they say is very important to their investigation.

Two years after a Utah mother vanished, her case has spiraled into a salacious saga of finger-pointing and accusations of sex and lies between two sparring families.

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on August 26, 2011, 12:37:47 AM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=16967598 (http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=16967598)

Video at the link

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6210/6081367647_8885450852_b.jpg)

Police search home of Josh Powell

By Pat Reavy And Emily Morgan
August 25th, 2011 @ 8:49pm

PUYALLUP, Wash. — West Valley police officers arrived in Washington Thursday to serve search warrants at the home of the father-in-law of missing Utahn Susan Cox Powell.

About a dozen investigators from West Valley and 10 forensics experts and detectives from the Pierce County Sheriff's Office in Washington arrived about 2:45 p.m. Thursday and searched for several hours at the home of Steven Powell, where Susan's husband, Josh Powell, also lives with their two boys.

"This warrant stems from information that detectives have developed during the investigation and there is probable cause to believe that there is evidence inside their home and/or vehicles that will help further the case," West Valley Police Sgt. Mike Powell said.

Merritt confirmed he and his team were looking for specific items, but would not elaborate. The Associated Press reports that three computers were seized from the home Thursday evening.

West Valley police have previously conducted searches at the Puyallup home, but those were conducted with consent from Steven Powell. "This is the first time we've come in here with a search warrant," West Valley Police Lt. Bill Merritt said.

Merritt confirmed he and his team were looking for specific items, but would not elaborate. The Associated Press reports that three computers were seized from the home Thursday evening.

In order to serve a search warrant, he said, "We have to have probable cause that they (items of evidentiary value) exist and they are in the Powell home or their vehicles."

No one was detained or arrested Thursday.

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on August 26, 2011, 01:15:30 AM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-josh-powells-sister-says-susan-didnt-feel-safe-near-her-father-20110825,0,4879996.story (http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-josh-powells-sister-says-susan-didnt-feel-safe-near-her-father-20110825,0,4879996.story)


Josh Powell's sister wants her father to stop slandering Susan

Aaron Vaughn, Web Producer FOX 13 News

8:45 p.m. MDT, August 25, 2011
WEST JORDAN, Utah—

It has been a long few weeks for Jennifer Graves, sister-in-law to the missing West Valley City woman, Susan Cox Powell. She learned that police searched Josh and her father's home and says she would not be surprised if her father knows something.

Graves does not know what to make of all that's happened during the search of her brother and father’s home, but she says it's time for her father and Josh to stop slandering Susan and cooperate with investigators to get to the truth.

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Graves listened to national news reports Thursday as her father and Josh made various media appearances. She listened as her father claimed Susan was flirtatious towards him. Graves says it was just the opposite.

"She didn't care for my dad [Steve Powell]. He had made advances toward her [and] she did not appreciate them," said Graves. "He had straight out asked her if she would be willing to share, he and Josh, could share her."

Graves gave another example of Susan telling her that Graves' father was caught trying to spy on her while she was changing.

Graves has not spoken to her father or Josh and does not plan to. But she believes they are hiding something.

"Stop the slander. Now it's time to move the investigation back to investigation mode it's time to get away from the mudslinging," she said.

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 26, 2011, 09:58:20 AM
The words of Susan Powell documented in emails and a notebook one year prior to her disappearance would shed more investigative light than a teenage journal.

Janet

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Family, Friends Launch Online Campaign to Find Missing Utah Mom
Updated: Monday, 04 Jan 2010, 12:46 PM MST
Published : Monday, 04 Jan 2010, 2:17 AM MST


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Friends of Powell's told the Deseret News that they have turned over to police e-mails that she sent them last year, in which she reportedly wrote that she feared her husband.

They also said Powell kept a notebook at her work desk that detailed threats allegedly made by her husband in 2008, according to the newspaper.

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http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/national/Family_Friends_Launch_Online_Campaign_to_Find_Missing_Utah_Mom_91409514



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 26, 2011, 11:52:21 AM
A Double Standard

Powells say police were looking for journals
August 26th, 2011 @ 8:30am


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Friday morning Josh Powell said detectives told him they were looking for Susan's journals - paper and digital copies. Steve Powell said they took his journals, plus video and photographs, as well.

He told KSL he didn't want police to have his journals because they contain "very embarrassing things."  But he said the Powells offered police Susan's journals in 2010 and wanted investigators to have them. He claims they back up the Powells' claims about Susan's character.

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http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=16974236&autostart=y




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 26, 2011, 11:55:40 AM
A Double Standard

Powells say police were looking for journals
August 26th, 2011 @ 8:30am


<snipped>

Friday morning Josh Powell said detectives told him they were looking for Susan's journals - paper and digital copies. Steve Powell said they took his journals, plus video and photographs, as well.

He told KSL he didn't want police to have his journals because they contain "very embarrassing things."  But he said the Powells offered police Susan's journals in 2010 and wanted investigators to have them. He claims they back up the Powells' claims about Susan's character.

<snipped>

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=16974236&autostart=y





You've hit the nail on the head imo, Janet.  Double standard!  So Josh & Stephen Powell think it's okay to make public Susan's journals, but Joshy doesn't want police to have his journals  ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 26, 2011, 12:18:22 PM

Susan Powell Mystery: War of Words Escalates
Aug. 26, 2011


<snipped>

(Susan) Powell's sister-in-law Jennifer Graves called claims of a flirtatious and sexually charged relationship made by her father Steven Powell between him and Susan "slander," and called for a return of focus on the search for the missing mom.

"My dad is saying all kinds of things about Susan that aren't true -- Susan wasn't like this. Steven Powell is," Graves said. "At this point we need to focus on the investigation. All the slander is not helping to find Susan -- we need to go back to an investigation mode instead of a mudslinging mode.

"[Susan's husband] Josh and my dad have done nothing to help, they've done a lot of talking but it's nothing to help find Susan. They're not talking to police. It doesn't portray a man who wants to find his wife," she added

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Vdeo & Article
http://abcnews.go.com/US/susan-powell-missing-war-words-escalates/story?id=14385180


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 26, 2011, 12:27:57 PM

Susan Powell Mystery: War of Words Escalates
Aug. 26, 2011


<snipped>

(Susan) Powell's sister-in-law Jennifer Graves called claims of a flirtatious and sexually charged relationship made by her father Steven Powell between him and Susan "slander," and called for a return of focus on the search for the missing mom.

"My dad is saying all kinds of things about Susan that aren't true -- Susan wasn't like this. Steven Powell is," Graves said. "At this point we need to focus on the investigation. All the slander is not helping to find Susan -- we need to go back to an investigation mode instead of a mudslinging mode.

"[Susan's husband] Josh and my dad have done nothing to help, they've done a lot of talking but it's nothing to help find Susan. They're not talking to police. It doesn't portray a man who wants to find his wife," she added

<snipped>

Vdeo & Article
http://abcnews.go.com/US/susan-powell-missing-war-words-escalates/story?id=14385180


Could it be that Steve Powell's daughter is speaking from personal experience?

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 26, 2011, 12:29:56 PM

Powells say police were looking for journals
August 26th, 2011 @ 8:30am


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Susan Powell's good friend, Kirssi Holewell, is defending Susan's character. She said Susan feared Steve Powell, that he tried to kiss her and mailed pornography to her after she moved to Utah. Holewell says she told police about it the week Susan disappeared, but she is speaking publicly now because of Steve Powell's allegations that he and Susan had a mutual flirtatious relationship.

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http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=16974236&autostart=y


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on August 26, 2011, 01:31:52 PM
I hope Steve Powell's journals didn't start AFTER Susan disappeared.

If they did, I would VERY much doubt what's in them... on the other hand, maybe police can make sense out of his ramblings.

I hope LE raided his porn cabinet, where he supposedly kept the journals and Susan's underwear and pictures. He's one sick puppy.

IF he so much detested Susan for putting "moves" on him, keeping mementos of her in the cabinet would prove who's telling the truth (he or her friends.)

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Police-seize-Steve-Powells-embarrassing-journals/RPOwfy0TTEWDbY2Pt_2FSg.cspx



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 26, 2011, 03:25:45 PM
I hope Steve Powell's journals didn't start AFTER Susan disappeared.

If they did, I would VERY much doubt what's in them... on the other hand, maybe police can make sense out of his ramblings.

I hope LE raided his porn cabinet, where he supposedly kept the journals and Susan's underwear and pictures. He's one sick puppy.

IF he so much detested Susan for putting "moves" on him, keeping mementos of her in the cabinet would prove who's telling the truth (he or her friends.)

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Police-seize-Steve-Powells-embarrassing-journals/RPOwfy0TTEWDbY2Pt_2FSg.cspx



 ::rhino::


Police seize Steve Powell's "embarrassing" journals
August 26, 2011


<snipped>

A day after police from Utah and Peirce County (Washington) served a search warrant at Steve's home, the father-in-law of Susan Cox Powell spoke to the media at an early morning impromptu news conference.

Steve Powell spoke of the "inappropriate" and "sexual" relationship with his daughter-in-law that he documented in his journals, but insisted that the flirtation and "sexually-charged" affair with Susan was initiated by her, and that the journals reflect that claim.

<snipped>

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Police-seize-Steve-Powells-embarrassing-journals/RPOwfy0TTEWDbY2Pt_2FSg.cspx


Police serve warrant to search home of Steve and Josh Powell
August 26, 2011


<snipped>

Pierce County Sheriff’s deputies assisted in serving the search warrant. Troyer confirmed that about 20 investigators have begun searching the home of Steve Powell.

Police won’t say exactly what they are looking for but sources tell Q13 FOX News that part of the reason they are here is because of an article written by Isabelle Zehnder with Examiner.com last weekend.

In it, she interviewed a former girlfriend of Steve Powell who told her that he stole a pair of Susan’s sacred Mormon undergarments and keeps them in a locked cabinet.

<snipped>

http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-police-serve-warrant-to-search-home-of-steve-and-josh-powell-20110825,0,4176462.story


Finally – light shed on why Susan Cox Powell feared her father-in-law
Isabelle Zehnder, Missing Persons Examiner
August 21, 2011


<snipped>

“Steve was very proud of his stash of porn magazines he kept in a locked cabinet in his bedroom. He showed them to me when he lived at his previous Puyallup home,” Julia said.

Last fall Julia said Steve boasted that he still had the pair of Susan’s very sacred Mormon Temple Garment underwear that he stole from the dirty laundry when she and Josh lived at his house at the beginning of their marriage.

“Not only did he stash her underwear in his locked bedroom cabinet, he said he stashed her pictures, journals, and porn in there too,” Julia said.

“In fact,” she said, “when police went to search his house last fall they missed it – Steve told me they never even looked in his locked cabinet so he still has her private belongings, including her underwear.

The girlfriend, who did not want to be named, said Steve was obsessed with his daughter-in-law.

<snipped>

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/finally-light-shed-on-why-susan-cox-powell-feared-her-father-law


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Babybear on August 26, 2011, 03:36:48 PM
Hello Monks--

I'm not given to conspiracies in these cases and often object when something which is entirely unsubstantiated is posted as the truth.  But in this case, it appears that the Powells, father and son are involved in Susan's disappearance and likely murder.  Maybe the son took the children away while his father got rid of the body and cleaned the house, including the rug.  Anyone with any common sense at all knows that Josh Powell is complicit in Susan's murder and it appears to me, so is Steve.

Even if Steve isn't involved in the murder, I can't imagine a father having an affair with his son's wife.  This is such an elementary betrayal of his son.  Bunch of trash, if you ask me.  Well, nobody asked me, but I think they are a pos.  Both of them.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 26, 2011, 04:11:03 PM
Search at Josh Powell's Wash. home wraps up; evidence seized
11:58 a.m. MDT, August 26, 2011


<snipped>

Police were seen removing computers, boxes and bags from the home.

“We have actually been able to accomplish what it is we had hoped we would be able to do,” says West Valley City Lt. Bill Merrit. “The evidence we collected today is definitely going to further the investigation. If it’s the key element we are really looking for or not, we can’t really comment on that. But every piece that we gather is definitely a piece of the puzzle and helps us to get a complete picture of what’s happening.”

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http://www.fox13now.com/kstu-josh-powell-search-warrant-investigators-searching-josh-powells-washington-home-20110825,0,2667178.story




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 26, 2011, 05:18:28 PM
What in the world is West Valley City police Lt. Bill Merritt implying?

Janet

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Investigation Renews in Spiraling Missing Mom Case
Published August 26, 2011


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Josh Powell is the only person of interest in Susan Powell's disappearance, but he has not been charged or detained. He was allowed to leave the area with their children as investigators went through the property.

Police said the plan to search Powell's home had been in the works for a while -- since before a recent search through abandoned mines in Nevada. A few investigators thoroughly examined a van in the driveway, looking through every CD, flipping through scraps of paper and examining under seats.

Investigators declined to discuss what pieces of evidence they gathered.

"What we have here today will help us draw closer to a conclusion," Merritt said. "Whether it's the conclusion that everybody wants and hopes for, we don't know. It may be a conclusion that nobody wants to admit could happen."

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/25/investigators-search-home-missing-utah-moms-husband-father-in-law/?test=latestnews?test=latestnews



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 26, 2011, 05:42:40 PM
I don't know what Lt. Bill Merrit is implying Janet, but in my mind, it adds more questions than it even begins to answer.  JMHO  Quite cryptic. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 26, 2011, 06:11:20 PM
I don't know what Lt. Bill Merrit is implying Janet, but in my mind, it adds more questions than it even begins to answer.  JMHO  Quite cryptic. 

I agree.

So many high profile missing person cases discussed on the Scared Monkey's site are soooo frustrating.  Strong circumstantial evidence points to persons of interest but ... when all is said and done ... justice for the victims never prevail.

Janet

   


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on August 26, 2011, 08:38:37 PM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=16974236 (http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=16974236)

Police took journals, 'embarassing videos' says Steven Powell
By Pat Reavy And Sarah Dallof

PUYALLUP, Wash. — West Valley police say they completed the task they set out to do.

Josh Powell says it was a lot of grandstanding.

West Valley police and Pierce County sheriff's deputies in Washington collected bags and boxes of evidence from the home of Powell and his father, Steven Powell, following a nearly nine hour search Thursday that didn't end until just before midnight.

"We came here with a goal in mind and we accomplished it," said West Valley Police Lt. Bill Merritt.

Josh Powell said the search warrant executed on his home and his vehicles was for his missing wife's childhood journals and any digital information related to her. But he voiced his displeasure Friday at how the search warrant was executed and over what was taken.

"Cooperation is a two-way street," he told KSL at his home Friday. "The way they're treating our family is completely atrocious."

According to Josh Powell, the family offered to turn over Susan Cox Powell's diaries a year ago but police refused. By wanting them now, he believes it shows a change of focus in the police investigation. He believes Susan's diaries will exonerate him once and for all because it will reveal her flirtatious nature.

"I had nothing to do with Susan's disappearance," Josh Powell restated Friday.

 ::snipping2::

"It's a complete and total abuse of power," he said.

The search involved 13 West Valley police officers and 10 from the Pierce County Sheriff's Office. The West Valley officers met late Friday to go over what evidence they collected but had not yet determined when they would return to Utah, Merritt said.

"This is the biggest investigation that anybody in West Valley Police Department has ever seen and probably ever will see," Merritt said, noting that the amount of data investigators have to look through is enormous.

In addition to his daughter-in-law's journals, Steven Powell said potentially "embarrassing" pictures, videos and journals belonging to him were also seized by police.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: ISpy on August 27, 2011, 03:15:32 AM
Evening, all!  Catching up here and reading here http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/25/investigators-search-home-missing-utah-moms-husband-father-in-law/?test=latestnews (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/25/investigators-search-home-missing-utah-moms-husband-father-in-law/?test=latestnews). The article states "A few investigators thoroughly examined a van in the driveway, looking through every CD, flipping through scraps of paper, and examining under the seats."  Trying to figure out what these 3 activities have in common and wondering where in the van the CDs and paper scraps were.  Fibers (paper/carpet) come to mind. Under the seats makes me think fibers or dirt particles (it's hard to perfectly clean under seats, due to the sliding tracks the seats sit in and the carpet placement over the car frame).
 
Thinking here of LE's statements that the mine shaft searches "were successful" and the ex-FBI investigator thinking it was a ploy to call Joshua Powell's bluff. Looking at pics of the mine searches here http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=16872231 (http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=16872231), I was reminded of the media reporting no physical evidence was collected by LE and that the searches seemed cursory. Perhaps physical evidence was collected in the form of dirt samples from the ATV tires, the ropes, the men's boots/clothes, the paperwork (laid upon the rocks, dirt, etc.) at the mouth of the mines when GPS coordinates were being marked. An investigator entered the gated mine that had been breached, with a large searchlight.  Who's to say he did not collect samples while inside? Just because he was not seen carrying samples doesn't mean he didn't take samples.  LE, in searching Susan Powell's home, Steven Powell's residence, the Powell van, or examining the generator, may have found dirt particles containing a very specific mineral found only at one of those mines. If the van had ceiling or floor air conditioning vents, dirt/mineral particles specific to those at the mines may have been imbedded in the carpet under the seats (or in the fabric of the back of the seats/in the ceiling liner). My question is if Joshua took the children on an overnight camping trip in sub-zero weather and used a generator for heat, how did he vent the generator?  He stated they slept in the van.  The fumes alone should have suffocated them, in such a small confined space as a van. Portable generators also produce carbon monoxide (odorless and deadly).  So, why weren't they all dead?  Why was Joshua the only one wind burned?  If (big if), Joshua cracked the windows or left them farther down on the van, shouldn't the boys have remembered and recounted being cold (or be wind burned as well)?  Following through on this thought, wouldn't the van carpet/fabric/seat stuffing/ceiling liner have had detectable levels of carbon monoxide residue from the generator? Operating the generator all night in the van would have left detectable carbon residue (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-carbon-residue.htm (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-carbon-residue.htm)). Joshua's van & generator camping trip story is literally unbelievable. If the van components didn't/don't have carbon monoxide traces, he's sunk.  If he actually has/had a generator, I wonder when he bought it?

Thinking a little more, we cannot assume the children were awake Sunday night for this camping trip.  Joshua may have medicated them at some point between Sunday dinner and Monday morning to make cleanup/disposal easier. In previous statements (sorry, no link), LE states that the oldest son corroborated they went on a "camping trip", but we don't know what kind of/how many details the boy gave of Sunday night, Monday morning, or Monday day. It could have been as minimal as "Dad woke us up to go on a camping trip.  We fell asleep in the van/slept in the van.  We woke up and .....".  We can't rule out dear ole' dad (Steven Powell) either.  He may have: aided in Susan's disposal; drugged, sexually assaulted, and killed Susan while Joshua took the boys "camping" to get them out of the house; or come to clean up after the fact while Joshua took the boys "camping" and he disposed of Susan.  Wonder where Steven Powell was Sunday-Friday that week. Joshua or Steven may have temporarily stored Susan's remains somewhere for either (or both) of them to later pickup and permanently dispose of.  Joshua is blatantly lacking the normal level of rage and disgust any man would feel if his father discussed his wife in sexual terms (much less, openly stated the dad & DIL were sexually involved).  As for Steven Powell, pervert is an apt description.  The only person I've ever known to discuss their DIL or other young ladies that way, was found to have molested his step-daughter, attempted to groom his new DIL to molest her, and cheated on his wife.  That man unmistakeably reeked of perversion.  He also got enjoyment talking about how "bad" the "promiscuous" girls were and relating his escapades.  Steven Powell lies about Susan here when he uses both past and present tense language when describing Susan: "We interacted in a lot of sexual ways because Susan enjoys doing that." (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/25/investigators-search-home-missing-utah-moms-husband-father-in-law/?test=latestnews (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/25/investigators-search-home-missing-utah-moms-husband-father-in-law/?test=latestnews)). Clearly though, Steven Powell has sexual issues which lead me to believe sex was a huge issue for Joshua.  If Joshua acted like a control freak jerk, Susan understandably wouldn't be sexually interested.  Can you imagine how that would have gone over with Joshua Powell, given his narcissistic behavior and comments since Susan disappeared? Now factor in his sexually motivated and perverted, controlling dad?  Thoughts of dad giving an angry, spurned Joshua pep talks about his "husbandly rights", come to mind.  Of course, everything would be Susan's fault (as we've already heard from the Powell boys). I wonder if Joshua decided to assert his "rights" and in the struggle, Susan was killed or seriously wounded (necessitating murder to keep her from telling or others from knowing). That would certainly prompt a basement clean-up, an impromptu sub-zero boys-only "camping" trip, a rental car with a couple hundred miles a few days later, and a likely call/message/visit to dear ole' dad.
 
What we do know and can say with all certainty, is that the Powell boys are lying (and badly, I might add). If you love your spouse/DIL and that person is missing, the last thing you're going to do is trash them privately or publicly.  Steven and Joshua Powell are way too "sure" that Susan ran away.  Logic asks: "How can they be sure she wasn't abducted if they weren't there?".  The first thing out of both of their mouths and being rammed repeatedly down their blog readers' throats was the "she ran away with another man" story. The big hole in that story is that the other part of that equation-the man- would be reported missing too by family, friends, an employer, and co-workers.  Suggesting that Steven Koecher (also missing from Utah) is "the other man" is trying to cram a square peg into a round hole. Mr. Koecher's trail just prior to his disappearance is well documented by receipts, banking transactions,etc....none of which place him in Susan Powell's vicinity. Epic fail! In order for there to be an affair, the two people in question have to actually connect electronically and personally.  ::MonkeyTongue:: Judging from what friends, family, and co-workers have told us about Susan, she had neither the time, energy, desire,freedom, nor money to carry on an affair.  All of the above is my own opinion, except news report sources.         


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: ISpy on August 27, 2011, 03:25:31 AM
Sorry for the looooong post, but enquiring minds want to know.   ::MonkeyWink::  Time to get off here and get some shut eye.  Take good care everybody!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 27, 2011, 07:50:02 AM
Sorry for the looooong post, but enquiring minds want to know.   ::MonkeyWink::  Time to get off here and get some shut eye.  Take good care everybody!

ITA - "enquiring minds want to know".  Your post may have been long, but it's interesting.   ::MonkeyCool::  I believe LE have their eyes on Steve and Josh Powell.  It's my hope LE can find something Steve or Josh didn't clean up or something they failed to cover up in the death & disposal of Susan Powell.  The word "dispicable" comes to mind when I think of the father/son duo.  JMHO

I'm really wondering how much effect the poisonous thoughts and words of Steve and Josh have on the children Josh has custody of right now.  With all the ugly things those two have spewed to the press, I can't imagine how toxic it must be for the children living in the home.   ::MonkeyNoNo::





Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Mary on August 27, 2011, 11:21:59 AM
What happened to Josh's mother or his fathers wife. I don't like the idea of those boys
living with that father, he is such a pig. I can see why Josh is so toxic, his father taught him
everything he knew. I bet that big daddy did get rid of her body, after he raped her. I do
hope those boys are taken out of that house.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Buckeye on August 27, 2011, 11:44:48 AM
What happened to Josh's mother or his fathers wife. I don't like the idea of those boys
living with that father, he is such a pig. I can see why Josh is so toxic, his father taught him
everything he knew. I bet that big daddy did get rid of her body, after he raped her. I do
hope those boys are taken out of that house.

IIRC

Josh's mom is Teri Powell.  I think she lives in Utah by Josh's sister, Jennifer (the one that was good friends with and stuck up for Susan).


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 27, 2011, 03:12:20 PM
Court bans publication of Susan Powell's journal
By KOMO Staff Published: Aug 26, 2011


TACOMA, Wash. - The husband and father-in-law of missing mom Susan Cox Powell were ordered not to publish any entries from Susan's journal in a court order issued Friday.

The temporary restraining order, issued in Pierce County Superior Court, orders the husband, Josh Powell, and his father, Steven Powell, to "immediately cease" publication of entries from Susan's private journal.

It also orders the husband and father-in-law to "immediately remove" Susan's journal entries from their website, SusanPowell.org, and from any other public forum where the entries are posted. They also are prohibited from giving copies of the journal to the press.

The temporary restraining order was requested by Susan's father and mother, Chuck and Judy Cox, through their attorney, Anne M. Bremner, and was granted Friday.

<snipped>

Susan's private journal, which covers the period of her teen years, has been in the possession of Josh and Steven Powell. The two have claimed in recent interviews that the journal entries, which number about 2,000 pages, show Susan was suicidal in her younger years.

But Bremner said the journals have absolutely no bearing on the missing person case.

"Susan was a teenager with these journals. It doesn't show anything," she said. "She was a good wife and a good mother who would have never left her children."

She said Josh and Steven Powell have given copies of journal entries to the media, but they no longer can do that.

A copy was given to KOMO News, which made the decision not to publish or broadcast any material from Susan's private journals.

<snipped>

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/128492198.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 27, 2011, 03:13:55 PM
The words of Susan Powell documented in emails and a notebook one year prior to her disappearance would shed more investigative light than a teenage journal.

Janet

++++++
 
Family, Friends Launch Online Campaign to Find Missing Utah Mom
Updated: Monday, 04 Jan 2010, 12:46 PM MST
Published : Monday, 04 Jan 2010, 2:17 AM MST


<snipped>

Friends of Powell's told the Deseret News that they have turned over to police e-mails that she sent them last year, in which she reportedly wrote that she feared her husband.

They also said Powell kept a notebook at her work desk that detailed threats allegedly made by her husband in 2008, according to the newspaper.

<snipped>

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/national/Family_Friends_Launch_Online_Campaign_to_Find_Missing_Utah_Mom_91409514





Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on August 27, 2011, 05:12:44 PM
All these accusations of Susan  being "unstable", and "suicidal"... why didn't her husband seek mental health counseling for her? She was the mother of his children, why not seek help?

Her father in law keeps repeating the same... why wasn't he a good father in-law and seek help for her, if she was so "unstable"?



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 28, 2011, 11:58:29 AM
If Steve Powell does not have one shred of evidence to support his despicable allegations that there was a MUTUAL attraction between him and his daughter-in-law ... the implication is that there is an attempt to direct the focus of suspicion away from his son in Susan's disappearance by assassinating her character and ... Josh is a participant in the sick agenda.

Janet

+++++


Questions arise over relationship between Susan Powell and father-in-law
:15 p.m. MDT, August 27, 2011


SALT LAKE CITY— With police searching the Washington home of Josh and Steve Powell, new information has arisen about Steve's relationship with his missing daughter-in-law Susan Cox Powell, including songs written and performed by Steve.

Steve Powell is a musician and songwriter, who records under the pseudonym Steve Chantrey. Many of the songs on his "Light of Seattle" disk deal with forbidden love, and Steve claims at least one was written about Susan.

A CNN Headline News report claims that "You Were My First Love" is one of those songs, inspired by a photo of Susan with one of her newborn sons, Steve says.

"Your eyes were the first that I looked into filled with love in spite of what you'd been through," the lyrics say.

Claims about the relationship between Steve and his daughter-in-law Susan, who has been missing since late 2009, took a strange turn earlier this week when Steve said that he and Susan had a sexual relationship.

"It was very sexually charged. There were definitely some things that probably were inappropriate for a married woman and her father-in-law," said Steve. "I acknowledge that."

Josh has been the sole person-of-interest in the case, but he maintains his innocence, saying that Susan ran off with another man. He says she was a very sexual person.

"Susan is very flirtatous, a very sexual person, that's what that's all about," Josh said. "She likes to validate herself in that way."

<snipped>

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-susan-powell-questions-arise-over-relationship-between-susan-powell-and-fatherinlaw-20110827,0,3385086.story




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: flamom on August 29, 2011, 05:34:44 PM
Sorry for the looooong post, but enquiring minds want to know.   ::MonkeyWink::  Time to get off here and get some shut eye.  Take good care everybody!

Thank you ISpy!! I concur!!!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 29, 2011, 06:08:38 PM
http://blog.thenewstribune.com/bluebyline/2011/08/29/police-separating-fact-from-fiction-in-powell-disappearance/
Police separating fact from fiction in Powell disappearance
Posted By Brian O'Neill on August 29, 2011 at 10:11 am


Read more: http://blog.thenewstribune.com/bluebyline/2011/08/29/police-separating-fact-from-fiction-in-powell-disappearance/#ixzz1WSSmlhd4


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Mary on August 30, 2011, 09:53:52 AM
Was anything ever said about the stain on the carpet that the fan was drying out. I hope
that they printed the fan. Maybe dads prints were on it.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 01, 2011, 07:55:27 AM
http://heartsknitforsusan.wordpress.com/2011/08/31/steve-powell-admits-to-obsession-for-susan/
Steve Powell Admits to Obsession For Susan
August 31, 2011 by Kiirsi


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 01, 2011, 08:02:15 AM
Was anything ever said about the stain on the carpet that the fan was drying out. I hope
that they printed the fan. Maybe dads prints were on it.
That would really be something,huh?
I found this older article where the carpet is mentioned.
http://www.examiner.com/family-in-seattle/susan-powell-update-carpet-cleaning-machine-found-husband-rents-car-then-disappears-more-gt-gt
 ::snipping2::
Josh Powell is the only person of interest in this case and police suspect foul play. Josh’s actions seem to speak louder than words these days – though his words have been few, according to police.

Carpet cleaning machine found: Police found a carpet cleaning machine inside the house last week when Susan first went missing and during the early stages of the investigation. While police could not comment about the reported wet spot they did confirm a carpet cleaning machine was found in the home, according to Fox 13 News http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-police-puzzled-utah-moms-disappearance,0,3590060.story.

Continue reading on Examiner.com Susan Powell Update: Carpet cleaning machine found, husband rents car then disappears, more &gt;&gt; - Seattle Family | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/family-in-seattle/susan-powell-update-carpet-cleaning-machine-found-husband-rents-car-then-disappears-more-gt-gt#ixzz1WhXKKGgG


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 01, 2011, 03:08:44 PM
OMG! I saw Inside Edition last night and they had a news segment on Steve Powell.

They covered the same things we have covered in here, but... he sang.

I have since been looking for a word to describe his singing, but I can't come up with one. Let's say his singing was more horrible than horrible.

The songs all had the same tone, they sounded like Christmas carols, improvised Christmas carols.

Steve reminds me of those people who try out for "American Idol", and they sound horrible but they think they sound like stars... and they get mad at the judges for not recognizing "talent."

Yup, regarding Steve, there is no talent writing and no talent singing... this man lives in Lala Land... in all aspects of his life.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 01, 2011, 03:26:29 PM
Itaryl Moosee  -  I didn't see "Inside Edition" last night because I don't watch much tv, so I checked the website.  OMGosh!!  Puke-O-Matic!  What a sick, sick man!!  (http://bestsmileys.com/sick/9.gif) (http://bestsmileys.com/sick/9.gif)

http://www.insideedition.com/news/6806/strange-twist-in-susan-powell-case-father-in-laws-love-songs.aspx
Strange Twist in Susan Powell Case: Father-in-Law's Love Songs
Air date: August 31, 2011

It may be the most bizarre twist yet in the Susan Powell mystery.  

We're now learning that the missing mom's father-in-law recorded love songs that her friends say he composed about Susan:

"Waiting for You"
"I could be getting a mistaken impression/
Each time you seem to gaze at me/
You let me touch you softly. Why? Is the question/
And the effect amazes me."

Steve Powell has already made the shocking claim on national TV that he was in love with his daughter-in-law and that she supposedly came on to him.

"I wasn't going to turn down an opportunity with this beautiful woman, even though she was my son's wife," Steve told the Today show.

Now these love songs have just been discovered on a website titled "Music of Steve Chantrey." "Steve Chantrey" is the name Steve Powell uses. He's an aspiring singer-songwriter.    

Here are the lyrics of a song titled "I said, I Love You," which Susan's friends say is all about her:

"You made my eyes pop out of their sockets/
You could empty all my pockets/
This flirtation isn't rocket science/
You came along and really knocked my socks off/
 Now you're all I think and talk of/
 So much for my former self-reliance."

INSIDE EDITION's Les Trent spoke to Rachel Marini, one of Susan's closest friends. Marini says Susan told her she rejected her father-in-law's advances and even moved from Seattle to Utah to get away from him.
 ::snipping2::
(More songs and more article)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 01, 2011, 08:42:42 PM
Wow! Thanks, Muffy. Didn't know it was on their page.

I wonder if the father's admissions are just a ploy to raise doubt, in case the case goes to court.

Like the story of the twins who each pled guilty to a robbery that only one committed. The judge couldn't figure out which one it was who did it, so each was found not guilty (cause the other could've done it.)







Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 03, 2011, 03:04:56 PM


http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Wheres-Josh/RtT4myCb4ku6wwGOJJVdKw.cspx
Where's Josh?
August 31, 2011

SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) – It was deju vu for Josh Powell Saturday.

At the stroke of midnight, he abruptly left his Puyallup Washington home with his two boys in tow.

“He's on a camp out,” said his father Steven Powell. “It was a spur of the moment thing.”

Steven Powell said Josh first told him about it Friday night at around eleven. An hour later he said he and his two boys got in the van and went camping.

His dad claimed he’s not surprised by Josh’s action.

"Spur of the moment, Josh is Josh,” he said. “That's the way Josh is."

But Susan Powell's father said it’s just a ploy by Josh.

“Oh I'm concerned,” said Chuck Cox. “Evidently he now feels the need to establish a pattern that he does this. That's one thing that comes to mind."

Camping at midnight is reminiscent of what happened on the night Susan Powell disappeared in 2009.

Back then, Josh Powell told authorities he went camping with the boys despite snowy conditions.
 ::snipping2::
But Susan Powell's parents aren't happy with Josh's latest whim especially when it involves the children.

It's the same concern Susan's best friend shares.
 ::snipping2::
“What other purpose is it unless to say 'see I did it again,'” she said. “At least there wasn't a blizzard this time."


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 04, 2011, 09:11:38 AM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-susan-powell-cox-family-files-lawsuit-against-josh-powell-over-susans-diaries-20110903,0,203077.story
Cox family files lawsuit against Josh Powell over Susan's diaries
September 3, 2011

 ::snipping2::
Chuck and Judy Cox have filed a lawsuit against Josh Powell attempting to stop his family from publishing the missing West Valley City mother's diaries. They say it's an invasion of her privacy and is being done without her consent.

Josh Powell and his father Steven have threatened to publish the diaries online, claiming it bolsters tehir case that she left their family and that she was promiscuous and suicidal.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 05, 2011, 05:58:29 PM
There will be way more Suits than that before it is all said and done...WTG Mr. Cox! Josh and his Daddy are going to dig their own grave all in due time.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 14, 2011, 11:26:32 AM
Police Search Utah Desert for Missing Mom
8 news now
Posted: Sep 13, 2011 7:24 PM EDT, Updated: Sep 13, 2011 8:16 PM EDT

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- West Valley City police on Tuesday searched in rugged desert terrain for signs of a Utah mother missing since 2009.

Investigators combed the central Utah desert near Topaz Mountain, with all-terrain vehicles and a specialized team of search dogs for clues in Susan Cox Powell's case, police spokesman Sgt. Mike Powell said. The area is about 135 miles southwest of where the mother of two was last seen at her home in West Valley City.

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Read more: http://www.8newsnow.com/story/15455336/police-search-utah-desert-for-missing-mom


Police search near Delta for Susan Cox Powell
Updated: 9/13 9:29 pm

TOPAZ MOUNTAIN, Utah (ABC 4 News) - West Valley City Police investigators followed up on information regarding Susan Cox Powell at Topaz Mountain near Delta on Tuesday.

West Valley City Police Department investigators and other law enforcement agencies were using ground crews and cadaver dogs to search the desert for evidence in the Powell investigation.
(snipped)

The search included the use of cadaver dogs. Carbon County sheriff's department brought their team of dogs to help with the search for any sign of human remains.

"If she is dead then these dogs will be able to find her," Lt. Merritt said.

The specially trained dogs target a human scent and give signals when they do find something.

"Dogs have been known to uncover human remains that date back 100-years," said Wally Hendricks with the Carbon County sheriff's office.   ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story/Police-search-near-Delta-for-Susan-Cox-Powell/7ly9ymtL6keznR4kpmLn8w.cspx


Investigators searching near Topaz Mountain in Susan Powell case
W.V. police organize search in area near popular rockhounding site
Deseret News
Published: Wednesday, Sept. 14, 2011 12:52 a.m. MDT

DELTA — Investigators searched for missing West Valley mother Susan Cox Powell near Topaz Mountain in Juab County Tuesday but left with no new clues as to where she is or what happened to her.

The team of about 20 investigators planned to continue conducting a grid search of the area west of Nephi and northwest of Delta Wednesday.

"Basically the information we have received during the investigation says there is a possibility we might find something here," West Valley Police Lt. Bill Merritt said. "We are not coming out here saying that we will, but we are hoping, fairly confident there may be something of value here. We don't know for sure....snipped >> MORE

Read more: http://deseretnews.com/article/705390787/Investigators-searching-near-Topaz-Mountain-in-Susan-Powell-case.html


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West Valley police find human remains in Powell search

DELTA — Human remains have been found during the search for evidence in the case of missing West Valley mother Susan Cox Powell.

West Valley Police Sgt. Mike Powell said investigators "are at the location of what appears to be human remains" found by cadaver dogs.

The Juab County Sheriff's Office was en route to the scene to handle the investigation. The discovery comes on the third day of searching the area near Topaz Mountain in Juab County for clues that might help them discover what happened to Powell.

Since Monday, a team of investigators from West Valley police, along with assistance from the Juab and Carbon County sheriff's offices, have been conducting an investigation in and around Topaz Mountain west of Nephi and northwest of Delta.

This is the third publicly visible search in the case in the past month. On Aug. 25, detectives from the West Valley Police Department with assistance from the Pierce County Sheriff's Office in Washington went to Puyallup, Wash., to serve a search warrant on the home of Steve and Josh Powell, Susan's father-in-law and husband.

 ::snipping2::

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http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-susan-powell-wvc-police-continue-search-of-utahs-west-desert-for-susan-cox-powell-20110914,0,5405325.story

Human remains found during search for Susan Cox Powell

DELTA, Utah—

Cadaver dogs located some human remains Wednesday during a search for Susan Cox Powell near Delta, UT. The identity, gender and age unknown.

Investigators could not say whether or not the remains might be those of Powell.

The discovery was made as West Valley City police marked day three of a search in Utah's West Desert for Susan Cox Powell by covering more miles of high-country desert.

Officers on ATVs scoured the vast and rugged terrain, looking for things out of the ordinary. A short distance away, cadaver dogs sniffed for any indication of human remains. Police said Wednesday they may also search some abandoned mines in the area.

The search is near a site where Josh Powell told police he had gone camping with his two kids in the middle of the night, the same night his wife vanished back in December 2009. Powell has been called a "person of interest" in his wife's disappearance.

West Valley City Police Lt. Bill Merritt told Fox 13 that investigators did recover some items that were of interest. They were photographed and documented and will be analyzed back in West Valley City to see if they have a connection to the missing woman's case. Police acknowledged the odds of finding Susan were "slim to none" in this vast desert, but said they must keep pushing forward with the investigation.

He insisted that progress is being made.

 ::snipping2::

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Human Remains Found in Susan Powell Search

 ::snipping2::
Police searching for Susan Cox Powell in a Utah desert have found human remains, according to police. It is not yet known whether they belong to Powell, the mother of two from West Valley City, Utah, who disappeared in 2009.

Cadaver dogs that had been combing the fields around Topaz Mountain, near Delta, Utah, found the remains today,  according to ABC News affiliate ABC4.


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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 14, 2011, 05:47:25 PM
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/129831953.html
Police find human remains in search for Susan Powell
By KOMO Staff & News Services Published: Sep 14, 2011 at 1:40 PM PDT Last Updated: Sep 14, 2011 at 2:24 PM PDT

DELTA, Utah -- Police say human remains have been found in the desert by cadaver dogs during the search for Susan Cox Powell on Wednesday.

"We have confirmed with several of the (cadaver) dogs that they have positively confirmed several times they are human remains," West Valley City (Utah) police Lt. Bill Merritt said. But Merritt said they don't know if the remains are those of Susan Powell.

"At this point we don’t want to jump to conclusions and say that we've made any kind of positive identification because we have not," Merritt said.
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 14, 2011, 05:48:49 PM
Prayers for Susan's family and little boys.  ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: flamom on September 14, 2011, 06:06:14 PM
I hope it is her.... and that father and son go to jail..
God bless Susans family   ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: klaasend on September 14, 2011, 06:08:46 PM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=17245260

West Valley police find human remains in Powell search

By Pat Reavy and Sam Penrod

DELTA — Human remains have been found during the search for evidence in the case of missing West Valley mother Susan Cox Powell.

Investigators "are at the location of what appears to be human remains" found by cadaver dogs Wednesday afternoon, said West Valley Police Sgt. Mike Powell.

The Juab County Sheriff's Office was en route to the scene to handle the investigation. The discovery comes on the third day of searching the area near Topaz Mountain in Juab County for clues that might help them discover what happened to Susan Powell.

Chuck Cox, Susan's father, said he received a call from police at his home in Puyallup, Wash., about 30 minutes before the first of many media calls.

"They said they had found a place they were interested in," Cox said.

"This is not unexpected in that area that they would find something out there," he said. "I'm sure there are people who have died in the desert that nobody knows about. It could be a pioneer to who knows what."

 ::snipping2::

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 14, 2011, 06:10:55 PM
I hope it is her.... and that father and son go to jail..
God bless Susans family   ::MonkeyAngel::
All the above and that her boys be returned to her family so that they can get away from the Powell perversion camp. Please let it be her.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on September 14, 2011, 06:15:14 PM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-susan-powell-wvc-police-continue-search-of-utahs-west-desert-for-susan-cox-powell-20110914,0,5405325.story (http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-susan-powell-wvc-police-continue-search-of-utahs-west-desert-for-susan-cox-powell-20110914,0,5405325.story)

 
Human remains found during search for Susan Cox Powell

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4:08 p.m. MDT, September 14, 2011
DELTA, Utah—

Cadaver dogs located some human remains Wednesday during a search for Susan Cox Powell near Delta, UT. The identity, gender and age unknown.

Investigators could not say whether or not the remains might be those of Powell. The area of the find is being treated as a crime scene, but West Valley City police have warned against jumping to conclusions. The exact location of the find was not disclosed.
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Post by: Tamikosmom on September 14, 2011, 06:16:19 PM
Thanks to all for the update!

I am thankful that Susan's family will have a measure of closure and ... I hope that evidence will emerge that implies that justice will prevail.

Janet


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Post by: Nut44x4 on September 14, 2011, 06:20:22 PM
I hope it is her.... and that father and son go to jail..
God bless Susans family   ::MonkeyAngel::
All the above and that her boys be returned to her family so that they can get away from the Powell perversion camp. Please let it be her.

Ditto X 1 gazillion


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 14, 2011, 06:24:54 PM
general area map
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&biw=449&bih=492&q=topaz%20mountain%20juab%20county%20utah&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=4755l9648l0l12277l4l4l1l0l0l0l290l727l0.1.2l3l0&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl


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Post by: klaasend on September 14, 2011, 06:51:31 PM

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Human-remains-found-in-Susan-Cox-Powell-search/dR_5Vk7CyUa0S33hxP1TcA.cspx (http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Human-remains-found-in-Susan-Cox-Powell-search/dR_5Vk7CyUa0S33hxP1TcA.cspx)

Human remains found in Susan Cox Powell search


Updated: 3:49 pm | Published: 2:20 pm
Written by: Dan Metcalf Jr.
Reported by: Marcos Ortiz


TOPAZ MOUNTAIN, Utah (ABC 4 News) - Police say human remains were found in the desert by cadaver dogs during the search for Susan Cox Powell on Wednesday.

Police say the remains are "almost certainly human," but did not confirm if the remains belonged to Susan Cox Powell.

Police could not confirm how long the remains were there, nor the gender of the body.

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Post by: Green Eyes on September 14, 2011, 07:06:20 PM
I hope it is her.... and that father and son go to jail..
God bless Susans family   ::MonkeyAngel::
All the above and that her boys be returned to her family so that they can get away from the Powell perversion camp. Please let it be her.

Ditto X 1 gazillion

Same here.  I hope it's Susan so her family can lay her to rest and they can bring justice for her and her family.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 14, 2011, 07:17:38 PM
Isn't it amazing that cadaver dogs can locate remains after so long in a harsh environment?
Everytime something like this happens I wish I could jam a video of it down the Ant's throats and right up Baez' rear end .   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 14, 2011, 07:45:58 PM
Isn't it amazing that cadaver dogs can locate remains after so long in a harsh environment?
Everytime something like this happens I wish I could jam a video of it down the Ant's throats and right up Baez' rear end .   ::MonkeyMad::
Me too........I feel so sorry for those two little boys.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 14, 2011, 07:59:21 PM
Isn't it amazing that cadaver dogs can locate remains after so long in a harsh environment?
Everytime something like this happens I wish I could jam a video of it down the Ant's throats and right up Baez' rear end .   ::MonkeyMad::
Me too........I feel so sorry for those two little boys.
Me too. After reading what big daddy Perv had to say about his sexual yen for Susan and all the other weird, weird stuff, it's clear that he's got some screws loose and Joshie, well ,no secret that I think he was a disturbed nut that killed Susan. Those boys shouldn't be with them and I hope if these are her remains that LE has them staked out to prevent another spur of the moment "camping trip".

http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/08/25/susan-powell-disappearance-sources-say-arrest-imminent-father-in-law-is-a-perv/#comments



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Post by: KittyMom on September 14, 2011, 09:00:07 PM
I want to know how Josh and Daddy Powell are reacting to this news. 
 :smt108


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 14, 2011, 09:03:12 PM
http://www.king5.com/video?id=129832168&sec=548932

This report says LE found this based on a tip.  This site is about 30 miles from where JP told LE that he'd gone camping that night.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 14, 2011, 09:04:52 PM
http://www.king5.com/video?id=129832168&sec=548932

This report says LE found this based on a tip.  This site is about 30 miles from where JP told LE that he'd gone camping that night.
Susan's daddy tells the reporter that LE called to tell him that the remains were found in a shallow grave.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 14, 2011, 09:39:50 PM
http://www.king5.com/video?id=129832168&sec=548932

This report says LE found this based on a tip.  This site is about 30 miles from where JP told LE that he'd gone camping that night.
Susan's daddy tells the reporter that LE called to tell him that the remains were found in a shallow grave.
One of the comments below the article said LE had put a GPS on his car, wonder if that's true, wonder if after the warrants recently he felt the urge to go check on her?
ya never know. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 15, 2011, 12:24:26 AM
LE must've had a good reason to be looking at that particular area, after so long, and they searched as if they were expecting to find something there.

There was that guy who disappeared about the same time Susan did (forget the name now,) the one the Powell boys were blaming for running away with Susan. So, I wonder what they will say now, would they blame the body on this guy?

The police HAD to have something. This Ely trip after so long, and now this search.

I agree, that maybe a GPS still sounding may have given them the headways.

I doubt the Powells confided on someone about something like where he disposed of the body. IF I remember correctly, he said he went camping to Tooele during a blizzard. I'm sure he left the kids with grandpa while he did his thing and came home snow burned and with chapped hands (but not the kids.)

This mountain is in the middle of nowhere, they had to have something to go on.



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Post by: Lake Erie Princess on September 15, 2011, 01:11:03 AM
I want to know how Josh and Daddy Powell are reacting to this news. 
 :smt108

Their reaction to this news was my 1st thought after I heard they had found something.

BUSTED !! I hope.

Josh seems very unstable to me.
IF the remains are his wife's, I think he will lose it and break with the story of what happened.

Watch his strange look in old videos on the news. Strange and scared.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 15, 2011, 08:02:22 AM
http://www.king5.com/video?id=129832168&sec=548932

This report says LE found this based on a tip.  This site is about 30 miles from where JP told LE that he'd gone camping that night.
Susan's daddy tells the reporter that LE called to tell him that the remains were found in a shallow grave.

Seems the ground would have been frozen at the time...no? Keep in mind that shallow graves are not always 'dug' graves, but can occur from decomp, elements and the way the body settles into the earth during both. If this isn't Susan, then perhaps some other family will be bringing their loved one home.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 15, 2011, 08:40:18 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/susan-powell-mystery-father-worried-remains-daughter/story?id=14525301
Susan Powell Mystery: Father Worried Remains Are His Daughter
September 15, 2011

The father of missing Utah woman Susan Powell said that the more he learns about human remains found in a rural desert, the more worried he is that they could be his daughter.

Investigators found human remains Wednesday in the rugged area near Topaz Mountain, a popular campsite 30 miles from the campsite to where Josh Powell says he took his children Dec. 6, 2009, when his wife mysteriously disappeared.

"It does bother me that it's in the same general area, and the more I learn about the location, the more it bothers me," Susan Powell's father, Chuck Cox, said.

Still, Cox holds out hope that his daughter, who was 28 when she disappeared, is still alive.

"They have not identified these as her remains yet. She could still be out there, maybe alive," Cox said. Susan Powell's husband has not been charged in his wife's disappearance but remains the only person of interest. Police said that Josh Powell has been uncooperative with investigators.
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Josh Powell, 35, released a statement after the discovery of the remains that read, "With very little information available to the public, we can only hope that additional information is released quickly to minimize heartache to those of us who love Susan. In the meantime, we continue to hope for Susan's safe return."

Powell says he has never been to the area where the remains were found. The area is a popular place where people go to hunt for gems and stones.
 ::snipping2::
Investigators are working to identify the gender and age of the remains.
Video at Link


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 15, 2011, 08:49:30 AM
What about Mrs Powell..Josh's Mom...have we ever heard anything from her?  Is she still in the picture..alive..divorced..what? 

It seems incredible to me that Josh and especially his father would so malign Susan and that his Mom would remain quiet through out this.  The things Josh's father said were unthinkable for any father-in-law to say about a missing daughter-in-law....Something is very wrong with both of these men..and Ifear for the little guys..they have got to miss their Mom very much and then to live with these two egotist..not a good picture.  Susan's parents not only need closure..they need to get custody of those boys.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 15, 2011, 08:51:49 AM
http://www.wtnh.com/dpps/news/national/west/police-say-human-remains-found-in-search-for-utah-mom-nt11-jgr_3942491
Remains found in search for Utah mom
September 15, 2011

DELTA, Utah (AP) — Nearly two years after a mother vanished, her friends and family are waiting to learn whether her case may have seen a major break after authorities discovered human remains during their latest search for clues in the Utah desert.
 ::snipping2::
t wasn't immediately known if the remains found Wednesday belonged to Susan Powell, or if they were even female. Authorities planned to resume their investigation Thursday morning.

"It's a game of patience at this point," West Valley City Sgt. Mike Powell said. "We need to slow down a little bit and identify what it is we found."
 ::snipping2::
Authorities have been searching since Monday in the area near Topaz Mountain in Juab County. The site is about 135 miles southwest of the location where Susan Powell was last seen where she lived in West Valley City.
 ::snipping2::
This latest search is in an area popular for gem and rock hunters. Police have said Powell's husband liked to rock hunt in the area.

"From the very beginning he clearly indicated he had been in and around the area," said Sgt. Powell, who is not related to the family of the missing woman.

Susan Powell's father, Chuck Cox, expressed doubt that the remains belonged to his daughter. He said that would mean whoever took her would have had to dump her body in the middle of a high desert freezing winter where the ground would have been covered in snow and frozen solid.

"We're just waiting," he said Wednesday evening.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 15, 2011, 09:06:37 AM
It looks like Josh Powell is lying some more. According to the article I've snipped below, he says he's never been to the area where the remains were found, and in the next article, the police say he liked to rock hunt  in the area.  Hmmmm. 

And then one article notes Chuck Cox doesn't think the remains are Susan's, and in the other article, it's saying the more he learns about the area, the more he thinks it might be her.  Maybe this is because he's getting more information.  This must be so hard for the family, because they've been down this road before when remains were found and it raised the question if they had found Susan.  (Turned out to be a male). 

What I wonder is, are they differences because of reporting, or did things change?

The first thing that stuck out:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/susan-powell-mystery-father-worried-remains-daughter/story?id=14525301
 ::snipping2::
"Powell says he has never been to the area where the remains were found. The area is a popular place where people go to hunt for gems and stones. "
 ::snipping2::
And in another article:
http://www.wtnh.com/dpps/news/national/west/police-say-human-remains-found-in-search-for-utah-mom-nt11-jgr_3942491
 ::snipping2::
"This latest search is in an area popular for gem and rock hunters. Police have said Powell's husband liked to rock hunt in the area.

"From the very beginning he clearly indicated he had been in and around the area
," said Sgt. Powell, who is not related to the family of the missing woman."
 ::snipping2::

And then this stuck out:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/susan-powell-mystery-father-worried-remains-daughter/story?id=14525301
 ::snipping2::
"The father of missing Utah woman Susan Powell said that the more he learns about human remains found in a rural desert, the more worried he is that they could be his daughter.

Investigators found human remains Wednesday in the rugged area near Topaz Mountain, a popular campsite 30 miles from the campsite to where Josh Powell says he took his children Dec. 6, 2009, when his wife mysteriously disappeared.

"It does bother me that it's in the same general area, and the more I learn about the location, the more it bothers me," Susan Powell's father, Chuck Cox, said."
 ::snipping2::

http://www.wtnh.com/dpps/news/national/west/police-say-human-remains-found-in-search-for-utah-mom-nt11-jgr_3942491
 ::snipping2::
"Susan Powell's father, Chuck Cox, expressed doubt that the remains belonged to his daughter. He said that would mean whoever took her would have had to dump her body in the middle of a high desert freezing winter where the ground would have been covered in snow and frozen solid.

"We're just waiting," he said Wednesday evening."
 ::snipping2::
 






Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 15, 2011, 09:28:38 AM
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/318779_10150373793025781_621790780_10329549_887588456_n.jpg) from facebook
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Friends-and-Family-of-Susan-Cox-Powell/158207040909324


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 15, 2011, 09:46:40 AM
I know these remains were not found in a 'mine', but remember the supposed comment from one of the children........

"Mommy's in the mine, looking for crystals."


crystals=gems ;)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 15, 2011, 10:09:09 AM
I know these remains were not found in a 'mine', but remember the supposed comment from one of the children........

"Mommy's in the mine, looking for crystals."


crystals=gems ;)
::rhino::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 15, 2011, 10:09:52 AM
Susan Powell Case: Human Remains Found in Desert
Police hope Utah desert discovery leads to break in case of missing mother.
9/15/2011

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 15, 2011, 10:15:45 AM
I was hoping that LE would've found clothing articles that would help they determine if it were really Susan.  I can imagine her family having to wait for weeks while tests are run.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: darla on September 15, 2011, 10:20:29 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!

I am praying this is Susan and her family can get some closure and at least bury her with some dignity. Also praying that someone is keeping a close eye on Joshie and his sicko dad. I worry they could do something to the boys.Wish they could get them out of that house asap. God Bless and keep them safe til they can.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Anna on September 15, 2011, 10:27:42 AM
Sometimes a natural depression in the lay of the land is used as a shallow grave then covered over.  No digging required.

This husband is one of the most despisable characters I have ever run across.  Father even worse.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 15, 2011, 10:42:45 AM
I was hoping that LE would've found clothing articles that would help they determine if it were really Susan.  I can imagine her family having to wait for weeks while tests are run.

I am wondering if they didn't find some articles of clothing..maybe just scraps at this point after all this time.  But I thought I read an article that said they had found articles..not just bones it said articles..and I can't find that link right now.

I sort of think they may have found something because Susan's father seems to be thinking now that it may very well be Susan.

I hope her parents can get those boys out of that house..it must be toxic living with Josh and his father.  I know they have been ordered to stay 500 yards away..but if there is an arrest I hope that makes the order null and void.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 15, 2011, 10:49:03 AM
I know these remains were not found in a 'mine', but remember the supposed comment from one of the children........

"Mommy's in the mine, looking for crystals."


crystals=gems ;)


Police find human remains in Susan Powell search
updated 9/14/2011 8:46:11 PM ET


<snipped>

Last month investigators searched mine shaft-dotted mountains near Ely, Nev.

The latest search is in an area popular for gem and rock hunters. Police have said Josh Powell is the only person of interest in the case and liked to rock hunt.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44524330/ns/today-today_news/t/police-find-human-remains-susan-powell-search/




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 15, 2011, 10:54:54 AM
http://heartsknitforsusan.wordpress.com/2011/08/31/frequently-asked-question-wheres-josh-powells-mother/

snip

Frequently Asked Question: Where’s Josh Powell’s Mother?
August 31, 2011 by Kiirsi

Josh Powell’s mother, Terrica Powell, divorced Steve Powell about 18 years ago and is living with her daughter, Jennifer Graves, in Utah.  Here is a good, in-depth article from the Salt Lake Tribune giving background on the Powell family.

Teri Powell had a good relationship with and a deep love for Susan—she was like a daughter to her, and Susan’s disappearance has filled her with grief.  She has chosen to remain quiet and out of the media and we respect her privacy. 

snip

So Terri Powell divorced Steve 18 years ago ..that says a lot right there..and the man never remarried..no one else would have him..plus I think a man like that holds little respect for women.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: akmom on September 15, 2011, 11:17:43 AM
My stomach is in knots over this.  If Susan is dead and this is her, I so want Justice for her.  Josh is a sniveling coward, and I feel sure he murdered her.  I want those poor little boys away from him....


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 15, 2011, 12:41:28 PM
No word yet? Maybe that's a good sign...if it was a big man's bones or something they would probably be able to say right away.....


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 15, 2011, 12:46:39 PM
No word yet? Maybe that's a good sign...if it was a big man's bones or something they would probably be able to say right away.....

If the hip bones are still there the medical examiner should be able to tell right away if it was a man or woman...I feel this maybe a good sign they have not come out and said it was a man. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on September 15, 2011, 01:53:28 PM
No word yet? Maybe that's a good sign...if it was a big man's bones or something they would probably be able to say right away.....

If the hip bones are still there the medical examiner should be able to tell right away if it was a man or woman...I feel this maybe a good sign they have not come out and said it was a man. 

Anthropologist called to study remains discovered during search for Susan Cox Powell
By Shara Park, Deseret News
Published: Thursday, Sept. 15, 2011 11:06 a.m. MDT

 ::snipping2::
If they are ancient, the BLM does not want the site disturbed. If they are recent, the state medical examiner will be called to the scene near Topaz Mountain to try to identify the remains in a delicate and deliberate process.
 ::snipping2::
The next step would be the extraction, with careful digging and collecting of forensic evidence from in and around the remains. That could take hours, according to Grey.

Once the remains are uncovered, the medical examiner and a forensic anthropologist will try to determine the sex, age, stature and race. The medical examiner then will try to estimate how long the remains have been at the location and look for marks on the bones that may indicate how the person died.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705390914/Anthropologist-called-to-study-remains-discovered-during-search-for-Susan-Cox-Powell.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on September 15, 2011, 01:54:49 PM
this works well in frozen ground,unless your in siberia,the perma frost here, is only about
less than a foot deep,and usually at about 4-6 inch is the norm,some muscle and a good pickax
would get the job done

http://www.amestruetemper.com/uploads/images/True%20Temper/products/1117300_L_01.JPG
http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/shutswis/shutswis1105/shutswis110500006/9489386-pick-axe-isolated-on-white.jpg



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: wildmala on September 15, 2011, 03:01:57 PM
http://www.king5.com/video?id=129832168&sec=548932

This report says LE found this based on a tip.  This site is about 30 miles from where JP told LE that he'd gone camping that night.
Susan's daddy tells the reporter that LE called to tell him that the remains were found in a shallow grave.
One of the comments below the article said LE had put a GPS on his car, wonder if that's true, wonder if after the warrants recently he felt the urge to go check on her?
ya never know. 

I hope this is the case...or whatever tip they got was really credible.  I just would hate for justice to once again be lost due to only circumstantial evidence.  Unless LE has more hard evidence that they just need the body to link to...


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: wildmala on September 15, 2011, 03:08:07 PM

And I pray that someone has an eye on the boys for their safety if they discover this is her.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 15, 2011, 06:21:21 PM


BLOCKED WEBSITE


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 15, 2011, 06:38:45 PM
Steven Koecher is the man who disappeared around the time Susan went missing, and who was blamed by the Powell boys for running away with Susan to Brazil.

Anyone wonders if the remains could be his, if they aren't Susan's?

Could the Powell boys have murdered Steven Koecher to give credibility to their story?

I'm sure Steven Koecher's family is also waiting in anticipation for news of these newly discovered remains.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on September 15, 2011, 06:41:03 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/susan-powell-search-human-remains-desert-recent-cops/story?id=14525301

Susan Powell Search Finds That the Human Remains Are Recent
By COLLEEN CURRY and JESSICA HOPPER (@jesshop23)
Sept. 15, 2011

Human remains found in the search for missing Utah woman Susan Powell were determined to be recent and were found in what police told Powell's father amounted to a "shallow grave."

An anthropoligst examined the remains today to ensure that they were not bones "of antiquity" that had been buried in the desert for decades, said West Valley City Police Sgt. Mike Powell, who is no relation to the family.

Powell's father, Chuck Cox, told ABC affiliate KOMO that police had said the remains were found in a shallow grave.

"This is something that's going to be interesting," Sgt. Powell said. "We're not looking at some Indian burial ground or old cowboy from the West. It's much more recent than that. It's definitely something."

Sgt. Powell said they could not yet identify the gender or other identifying clues that would lead police to believe it was Susan Cox Powell's body.

The sergeant would not call the remains "bones," and said that whatever police found may not have been visible to the human eye. The remains were found by cadaver dogs on Wednesday.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 15, 2011, 07:50:04 PM
Steven Koecher is the man who disappeared around the time Susan went missing, and who was blamed by the Powell boys for running away with Susan to Brazil.

Anyone wonders if the remains could be his, if they aren't Susan's?

Could the Powell boys have murdered Steven Koecher to give credibility to their story?

I'm sure Steven Koecher's family is also waiting in anticipation for news of these newly discovered remains.



I thought aboout it...anything is possible.

http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/UTAHmissingpersons.html

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=usMapSearch&missState=UT&searchLang=en_US


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 15, 2011, 07:52:40 PM
or even as some speculate...possibly very old


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on September 15, 2011, 08:11:49 PM
(http://www.ksl.com/emedia/slc/2493/249366/24936643.jpg?filter=ksl/top_story_635)

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=1070&sid=17254003

Police give 50-50 chance remains are Susan Powell's
By Shara Park and Randall Jeppesen
September 15th, 2011 @ 5:12pm

DELTA — Investigators who discovered human remains near Topaz Mountain now say there's a 50-50 chance they have discovered the final resting place of missing West Valley mother Susan Cox Powell.

The remains appear to be "fairly recent," an anthropologist with the Fillmore office of the Bureau of Land Management said Thursday. That could mean the remains have been in the Juab County desert anywhere from a few weeks to over a decade.

"This is not going to be an ancient burial site. It's not going to be a cowboy from the West," said West Valley Police Lt. Bill Merritt.

The remains were found in a pile of dirt that was obviously a disturbed shallow gravesite, said West Valley Police Chief Buzz Nielsen.

They also do not yet know whether the body was male or female, but Merritt said there was a 50-50 chance it was Powell.

"It's something that's going to be interesting," he said.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 15, 2011, 09:53:24 PM
 ::MonkeyShocked::

http://abcnews.go.com/US/susan-powell-search-human-remains-announcement-mistaken-officials/story?id=14525301
Susan Powell Search: No Human Remains Found, After All, Officials Say
September 15, 2011

No actual human remains have been found in the search for missing Utah woman Susan Powell, though police cadaver dogs did pick up scents at a desert location, police reportedly said, clarifying earlier claims that they had found remains.

"Right now, we haven't found anything except for these scents that these dogs are picking up," said West Valley City, Utah, Police Lt. Bill Merritt, according to The Associated Press. "We have not come across bones."

Earlier, police offered details about the find, saying the remains near Topaz Mountain in Juab County, Utah, were recent and in what they told Powell's father amounted to a "shallow grave."


West Valley City Police Sgt. Mike Powell, no relation to Susan Powell, added that an anthropologist even examined the remains to ensure that they were not bones "of antiquity" that had been buried in the desert for decades.
 ::snipping2::
Later, officials clarified to the AP that the anthropologist was called in to determine whether the site was an ancient burial ground.

Police did not fully explain why they earlier said they had found remains.


After the discovery, Sgt. Powell said officials could not immediately determine the remains' gender or find other identifying clues that would lead police to believe it was Susan Cox Powell's body.

The sergeant would not call the remains "bones," and said that whatever police found may not have been visible to the human eye. The alleged remains were found by cadaver dogs on Wednesday.

Two fresh cadaver dogs will be brought in to go over the patch of ground where the remains were found, and then a medical examiner was likely to be called to begin the process of identifying them, Sgt. Powell said.

Police are continuing their search throughout the desert around the base of Mount Topaz.
 ::snipping2::




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on September 15, 2011, 09:54:41 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/susan-powell-search-human-remains-announcement-mistaken-officials/story?id=14525301

Susan Powell Search: No Human Remains Found, After All, Officials Say
By COLLEEN CURRY and JESSICA HOPPER (@jesshop23)
Sept. 15, 2011

No actual human remains have been found in the search for missing Utah woman Susan Powell, though police cadaver dogs did pick up scents at a desert location, police reportedly said, clarifying earlier claims that they had found remains.

"Right now, we haven't found anything except for these scents that these dogs are picking up," said West Valley City, Utah, Police Lt. Bill Merritt, according to The Associated Press. "We have not come across bones."

Earlier, police offered details about the find, saying the remains near Topaz Mountain in Juab County, Utah, were recent and in what they told Powell's father amounted to a "shallow grave."

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on September 15, 2011, 09:58:31 PM
Sorry for the duplicate post, MuffyBee.  We were reading it at the same time.  I'm surprised that we didn't bump into each other. lol


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 15, 2011, 10:00:09 PM
But...the article I just posted say remains weren't found?!  Maybe the scents and other type of evidence are enough LE & the searchers feel they will find something more.  Are they onto something and/or are they messing with Joshy and Steve's heads?

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/state/story/Susan-Powells-father-traveling-to-area-where/O3o-27ga40mDqM5qE3k1JA.cspx
Susan Powell's father traveling to area where human remains found
September 15, 2011 Updated: 7:16 pm | Published: 6:44 pm

WEST VALLEY, Utah (ABC 4 News) - Susan Powell's father, Chuck Cox, is traveling to the site where human remains were found near Topaz Mountain in Juab County Wednesday.

Cox told Sgt. Mike Powell (no relation) of the West Valley Police Department he would like to be near the discovery and Powell agreed to take him. 

"I want to see the area.  I haven't been in that area before.  I want to see do I feel anything?  Do I think she's there?  Are they looking in the right spot?  Is it just desert or what is it?" said Cox.
 ::snipping2::
He said this is the seventh time human remains have been found since his daughter disappeared from her West Valley home about two years ago.
 ::snipping2::
Chuck will begin this trip Friday at 8:45 a.m.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 15, 2011, 10:01:01 PM
Sorry for the duplicate post, MuffyBee.  We were reading it at the same time.  I'm surprised that we didn't bump into each other. lol


No worries.   ::piggy::  I was just  ::MonkeyShocked::  when I saw that article. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 15, 2011, 10:01:27 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on September 15, 2011, 10:36:04 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44537821/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

Cops: No remains found yet at Powell search site
Utah discovery thought to be grave of mother missing since December 2009

DELTA, Utah — A search in the Utah desert for a missing mother is expected to resume Friday at a site that authorities said contained human remains but had not turned up any body parts or clothing.  

Cadaver dogs discovered the location Wednesday amid a renewed search for Susan Cox Powell, and investigators earlier declared that they had found human remains.

But authorities said as they shut down excavating for the day at 6 p.m. MDT (8 p.m. EDT) that no bones or clothing had been found. Digging is scheduled to resume 9 a.m. Friday, the Salt Lake Tribune reported.

Police did not say why they earlier stated that they had found human remains when they had not seen any.

"Right now, we haven't found anything except for these scents that these dogs are picking up," said West Valley City Police Lt. Bill Merritt. "We have not come across bones."

Because the site is on government land, a federal anthropologist was brought in to examine the site Thursday and see if it was part of an ancient burial ground.

Merritt spoke Thursday afternoon after anthropologist Joelle McCarthy examined the site, found a day earlier by authorities searching for clues in Powell's disappearance. McCarthy told authorities human-caused disturbance at the site appears to be "fairly recent."

Investigators were sifting through what was described as a shallow grave.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 15, 2011, 11:18:18 PM
I wonder if a body had been in the shallow grave and it was moved elsewhere?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 15, 2011, 11:21:40 PM
Oh, wow.  Maybe LE is playing mind games with the Powell guys to see which one will crack first?

 :smt102


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 15, 2011, 11:31:49 PM
I wonder if a body had been in the shallow grave and it was moved elsewhere?
good thinking Muffy...still hoping for some clue or something


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 15, 2011, 11:39:11 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705390914/Police-A-50-50-chance-Susan-Cox-Powell-is-in-suspected-gravesite.html

Police: A 50-50 chance Susan Cox Powell is in suspected gravesite

Quote
Investigators ended their digging about 5:30 p.m. Thursday and planned to resume about Friday morning. Detectives had dug about 1 ½ to 2 feet deep into the disturbed gravesite, about 2 feet wide and 3 feet long, said West Valley Police Lt. Bill Merritt.

No bones or clothing or anything of note had yet been spotted, but Merritt said dogs continued to give a "strong indication" that remains are present.

"The dogs are smelling something. It's human decomposition," he said. "The way they are indicating ... it's a very strong indication. It's not a passive indication."
 



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 16, 2011, 07:04:59 AM
http://www2.tbo.com/news/news/2011/sep/16/utah-authorities-searching-for-missing-mom-to-resu-ar-258144/
Utah authorities searching for missing mom to resume excavation
Published: September 16, 2011



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 16, 2011, 07:09:19 AM
Police Say No Remains Found in Search Utah Mom
http://www.youtube.com/v/63oKvwmt950?version=3&amp;hl=en_US


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 16, 2011, 07:09:51 AM
I wonder if a body had been in the shallow grave and it was moved elsewhere?
good thinking Muffy...still hoping for some clue or something
::rhino::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 16, 2011, 07:17:44 AM
::MonkeyNoNo::



ITA     wtf...........  ::MonkeyMad:: :smt093 :smt092 :smt091 all the reports and hoopla and they didn't even have any bones? WTF?? If this case wasn't so tragic, it would be laughable.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 16, 2011, 07:18:24 AM
Where is the FBI?????????


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 16, 2011, 07:26:42 AM
I was thinking of Susan Powell and her two sons this last night and this morning.  Even though Susan may no longer be in this world, if her remains can be found, her children may still  be saved from Josh and Steve.  Who knows what kind of vile things they've told the kids, what with all the lies they've made up to try to discredit her as a good woman, wife and mother and spewed out to the public?  The children are in a very toxic environment.   Not only that, but most of all the children are in home with two people that most likely had a hand in her demise.  We can't bring Susan back to life, but her son's lives are still at stake.  I can't believe how difficult it must be for Charles Cox.  His daughter is missing, his SIL and his SIL's father may have had a hand in her disappearance.  Josh won't let Charles see his grandsons.  And all the while, Josh and Steve are spewing falsehoods about Susan.  ::MonkeyNoNo::  I hope Charles can continue to stay strong for his daughter and grandsons, and Susan will be found soon.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 16, 2011, 08:31:19 AM
I am so confused by the latest reports....if they didn't find remains ..what did they find..a shallow grave..but how do they know it is a grave if their are no remains..because of the dogs hitting there..yet nothing there to see with the naked eye...just not adding up..and Susan's dad traveling there..something is up...


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: chi-monkey on September 16, 2011, 08:45:13 AM
I am so confused by the latest reports....if they didn't find remains ..what did they find..a shallow grave..but how do they know it is a grave if their are no remains..because of the dogs hitting there..yet nothing there to see with the naked eye...just not adding up..and Susan's dad traveling there..something is up...

Agreed.. something is up.  Please let this be the day Susan is found!   
 ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 16, 2011, 08:46:49 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/
Susan Powell Search: Human Remains in Question
Abbie Boudreau on the latest developments in the search for the Utah mother.
9/16/2011





Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 16, 2011, 08:47:48 AM
::MonkeyNoNo::



ITA     wtf...........  ::MonkeyMad:: :smt093 :smt092 :smt091 all the reports and hoopla and they didn't even have any bones? WTF?? If this case wasn't so tragic, it would be laughable.
::rhino::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 16, 2011, 08:47:59 AM
I am so confused by the latest reports....if they didn't find remains ..what did they find..a shallow grave..but how do they know it is a grave if their are no remains..because of the dogs hitting there..yet nothing there to see with the naked eye...just not adding up..and Susan's dad traveling there..something is up...

My theory (of the moment, anyway) is there may have been a body there at one time, but it's not there now.  I think cadaver dogs hit on death scent in an area that appears to be what they're calling a "shallow grave" or a place where a body has lain. There may not be bones and remains, but there might be enough for the dogs to pick up the sent, and this could include "very minute pieces of cadaver or even blood drops in a specified area" as this article explains.

http://www.ussartf.org/dogs_search_rescue.htm
 ::snipping2::
CADAVER DOG

A cadaver dog reacts to the scent of a dead human.  The dog can be trained for above ground and buried cadaver searches.  Although many dogs have the potential to detect human scent, whether dead or alive, the cadaver dog is trained to locate only human remains.  The training process includes detection of very minute pieces of cadaver or even blood drops in a specified area.
 ::snipping2::



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 16, 2011, 11:07:41 AM

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=1070&sid=17254003

Police give 50-50 chance remains are Susan Powell's
By Shara Park and Randall Jeppesen
September 15th, 2011 @ 5:12pm

DELTA — Investigators who discovered human remains near Topaz Mountain now say there's a 50-50 chance they have discovered the final resting place of missing West Valley mother Susan Cox Powell.

The remains appear to be "fairly recent," an anthropologist with the Fillmore office of the Bureau of Land Management said Thursday. That could mean the remains have been in the Juab County desert anywhere from a few weeks to over a decade.

"This is not going to be an ancient burial site. It's not going to be a cowboy from the West," said West Valley Police Lt. Bill Merritt.

The remains were found in a pile of dirt that was obviously a disturbed shallow gravesite, said West Valley Police Chief Buzz Nielsen.

They also do not yet know whether the body was male or female, but Merritt said there was a 50-50 chance it was Powell.

"It's something that's going to be interesting," he said.

 ::snipping2::


The Changing Story

September 16, 2011 10:10 AM
Police in Susan Powell missing case say "50/50" chance remains could be found


(CBS/KIRO/AP) JUAB COUNTY, Utah - A search in the Utah desert for missing woman Susan Powell took a strange turn Thursday when the site that authorities said contained human remains turned up no body parts, but a police lieutenant said he thought there was a "50/50" chance Powell's remains could be found there.

Cadaver dogs discovered the location this week amid a renewed search for Powell and investigators declared that they had found human remains.

But CBS affiliate KIRO reported that about 2 feet of dirt had been excavated and no bones were found. Police did not say why they earlier stated that they had found human remains when they had not even seen any.

"Right now, we haven't found anything except for these scents that these dogs are picking up," West Valley City Police Lt. Bill Merritt told KIRO-TV. "We have not come across bones."

Because the site is on government land, a federal anthropologist was brought in to examine the site Thursday to see if it was part of an ancient burial ground. Investigators then began sifting through what was described as a shallow grave as they searched for clues but had so far found nothing.

Investigators previously said that a federal anthropologist had determined the remains found in a remote area of central Utah were not ancient, but instead were much more recent.

<snipped>

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20107241-504083.html



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 16, 2011, 11:26:25 AM
If I get this straight, only one or two feet were dug yesterday and no real remains were found, but the searchers will continue digging today.

I can't believe that so many newspapers/news sites were reporting about human remains being found. Some sites were detailing how the remains were "examined" by the anthropologist.

ANYWAY... what's with the 50/50 odds? That's like YES it's her, or NO is not her. They are not saying a thing with that 50/50 figure.

Hopefully she will find soon.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 16, 2011, 11:45:15 AM
I want to add my new theory as to why the authorities in this case keep bringing up search sites.

I figure that if they search a particular area each week (like Ely and now Topaz mountain) and publish the finding of "something" being found, and they keep an eye on the Powells, that they would know when they are close when the Powells freak out.

A game of "hot and cold."



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 16, 2011, 12:45:19 PM
I want to add my new theory as to why the authorities in this case keep bringing up search sites.

I figure that if they search a particular area each week (like Ely and now Topaz mountain) and publish the finding of "something" being found, and they keep an eye on the Powells, that they would know when they are close when the Powells freak out.

A game of "hot and cold."




That works for me Moosee!  I hope it's getting to the Powell's in a big way! 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 16, 2011, 01:06:43 PM
"Meantime, an apparent facebook post from Susan more than two years ago described a "weekend camping" trip that may have been not far from the police search. She and husband Josh had taken their boys on the excursion in the family van, less than six months before Susan went missing. Josh Powell remains the only named person of interest in the case."

http://connect2utah.com/news-story/?nxd_id=163947



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Buckeye on September 16, 2011, 05:03:00 PM
Ashes?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 16, 2011, 05:41:16 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705390970/Investigators-sifting-dirt-for-clues-at-site-of-Susan-Cox-Powell-investigation.html
Investigators sifting dirt for clues at site of Susan Cox Powell investigation
Search called off until Saturday because of rain
Published: Friday, Sept. 16, 2011 3:05 p.m. MDT

By Pat Reavy, Deseret News

DELTA — The father of missing West Valley mother Susan Cox Powell says he has purchased a one-way plane ticket and will stay in Utah until investigators can determine what they have in an apparent shallow grave in a remote area near Topaz Mountain.

Chuck Cox was escorted by police Friday to the area where multiple cadaver dogs have indicated there are likely human remains. West Valley police define "human remains" as anything from drops of blood to bones to tissue.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 16, 2011, 08:05:41 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44537821/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/?google_editors_picks=true#.TnPiAOy8sng
Rain halts search for signs of Susan Powell
Cadaver dogs have indicated there may be human remains at desert site
September 16, 2011

DELTA, Utah — Rain and wind forced police to halt their search Friday afternoon for signs of a missing Utah mother at a central Utah desert site where cadaver dogs have indicated there may be human remains.

Authorities have been in the area since Monday searching for any clues in the disappearance of Susan Powell, a mother of two who vanished in 2009. On Thursday, investigators announced they had discovered human remains after cadaver dogs alerted them to what was described as a shallow grave. But authorities later acknowledged that nothing had yet been found.

New dogs brought to the area Friday hit on the same location, and authorities say they'll keep digging until the dogs stop signaling.
 ::snipping2::

Earlier in the day, Merritt said authorities were "still very confident that there's some type of remains in that hole."


Police had been waiting Friday for additional forensic specialists to assist in sifting through the dirt, looking for any material that appears out of place, including bone fragments, jewelry, clothing and human tissue.

But they decided to stop for the day and cover the site with tarps to protect it from rain. They planned to resume excavation Saturday morning.

By midday, they had dug several feet but found nothing. Meanwhile, Susan Powell's father, Chuck Cox, arrived, saying he needed to come to the site.

"I just feel this is a worthwhile investigation and I need to stay until I know what it is they have found," Cox said, his eyes tearing.
 ::snipping2::
On Thursday, a federal anthropologist determined the site was not an ancient burial ground, but showed signs of recent disturbance.

Merritt said Thursday there was a "50-50" chance investigators would find remains belonging to Susan Powell.

 ::snipping2::
Meanwhile, officials from the U.S. Army's Dugway Proving Ground have contacted authorities about the possibility that any remains found might belong to missing Spc. Joseph Bushling, Army spokeswoman Paula Thomas said.

"We have no reason to believe it's him, but we're being diligent," she said.


Bushling disappeared May 8 from the nearby Army site that was established in 1942 to study chemical and biological warfare. The car he was driving and his hat were later found within about 20 miles of where authorities are now searching for Susan Powell.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 16, 2011, 08:17:38 PM
I am so confused by the latest reports....if they didn't find remains ..what did they find..a shallow grave..but how do they know it is a grave if their are no remains..because of the dogs hitting there..yet nothing there to see with the naked eye...just not adding up..and Susan's dad traveling there..something is up...

My theory (of the moment, anyway) is there may have been a body there at one time, but it's not there now.  I think cadaver dogs hit on death scent in an area that appears to be what they're calling a "shallow grave" or a place where a body has lain. There may not be bones and remains, but there might be enough for the dogs to pick up the sent, and this could include "very minute pieces of cadaver or even blood drops in a specified area" as this article explains.

http://www.ussartf.org/dogs_search_rescue.htm
 ::snipping2::
CADAVER DOG

A cadaver dog reacts to the scent of a dead human.  The dog can be trained for above ground and buried cadaver searches.  Although many dogs have the potential to detect human scent, whether dead or alive, the cadaver dog is trained to locate only human remains.  The training process includes detection of very minute pieces of cadaver or even blood drops in a specified area.
 ::snipping2::



TY Muffy..I just figure that LE would not have been talking to the press or public if they thought that they had nothing..meaning this keeps pressure on Josh and his Dad....and pressure is what they need to be under.  I pray that this site is either her burial  spot or leads them to some info to finally put a nail in the coffin of Josh and his Dad.  They are horrrible people to make the kind of remarks they have about Susan..and it chills my blood that they are the people bringing up the next generation of this legacy..Susan's boys deserve to be with her parents...and I bet that Steve and Josh do not allow Steve's exwife and daughter, Josh's mother and sister, to be with the boys either..


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: texasmom on September 16, 2011, 10:20:09 PM
Ashes?

I'd wondered about that too.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: texasmom on September 16, 2011, 10:21:04 PM
I was thinking of Susan Powell and her two sons this last night and this morning.  Even though Susan may no longer be in this world, if her remains can be found, her children may still  be saved from Josh and Steve.  Who knows what kind of vile things they've told the kids, what with all the lies they've made up to try to discredit her as a good woman, wife and mother and spewed out to the public?  The children are in a very toxic environment.   Not only that, but most of all the children are in home with two people that most likely had a hand in her demise.  We can't bring Susan back to life, but her son's lives are still at stake.  I can't believe how difficult it must be for Charles Cox.  His daughter is missing, his SIL and his SIL's father may have had a hand in her disappearance.  Josh won't let Charles see his grandsons.  And all the while, Josh and Steve are spewing falsehoods about Susan.  ::MonkeyNoNo::  I hope Charles can continue to stay strong for his daughter and grandsons, and Susan will be found soon.



ITA   ::rhino::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on September 17, 2011, 02:27:54 PM
Have to visit my sons today.
Hopefully we will hear about
what was found soon. My thoughts and prayers
are with the Cox family.

God comfort and be with them all !


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 17, 2011, 07:11:18 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/police-excavating-utah-desert-site-in-search-for-missing-mom/2011/09/17/gIQAOqzIZK_story.html
More officers join search of ‘grave’ at Utah desert site for mom missing for nearly 2 years
By Associated Press, Updated: Saturday, September 17, 4:59 PM


DELTA, Utah — Authorities had dug about 3 feet down Saturday afternoon into what they’ve described as a shallow grave in the rugged Utah desert as part of a nearly two-year investigation into missing mother, but had so far found no clues.

Two previous days of digging also turned up nothing. Additional experts joined the search Saturday to help in the painstaking process of sifting through piles of dirt being shoveled from the ground for anything out of the ordinary, including human bone or tissue, clothing or jewelry.

Investigators remained confident but acknowledged they still don’t know whether the site is related to the disappearance of Susan Powell.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 17, 2011, 07:17:37 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/police-excavating-utah-desert-site-in-search-for-missing-mom/2011/09/17/gIQAOqzIZK_story.html
More officers join search of ‘grave’ at Utah desert site for mom missing for nearly 2 years
September 17, 2011

DELTA, Utah — Authorities had dug about 3 feet down Saturday afternoon into what they’ve described as a shallow grave in the rugged Utah desert as part of a nearly two-year investigation into missing mother, but had so far found no clues.

Two previous days of digging also turned up nothing. Additional experts joined the search Saturday to help in the painstaking process of sifting through piles of dirt being shoveled from the ground for anything out of the ordinary, including human bone or tissue, clothing or jewelry.
Investigators remained confident but acknowledged they still don’t know whether the site is related to the disappearance of Susan Powell.

“We’re all very hopeful,” West Valley City Lt. Bill Merritt said. “I guess it’s 50-50 at this point.”

Eleven cadaver dogs have indicated they sense human remains at the site, but none have signaled on the piles of dirt being removed, authorities said.

The search was halted abruptly Friday when a rainstorm swept through the area.

Cadaver dogs led police to the site Wednesday just off a dirt road near the base of Topaz Mountain, a popular rock-hounding spot in remote central Utah. The area is more than 130 miles from the location where Powell was last seen at her West Valley City home on Dec. 7, 2009.

Authorities have been searching the area since Monday. On Wednesday, they said they found human remains but later backtracked, clarifying that cadaver dogs had hit on the site but no remains had been found.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 17, 2011, 07:23:52 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/police-excavating-utah-desert-site-in-search-for-missing-mom/2011/09/17/gIQAOqzIZK_story.html
More officers join search of ‘grave’ at Utah desert site for mom missing for nearly 2 years
September 17, 2011

DELTA, Utah — Authorities had dug about 3 feet down Saturday afternoon into what they’ve described as a shallow grave in the rugged Utah desert as part of a nearly two-year investigation into missing mother, but had so far found no clues.

Two previous days of digging also turned up nothing. Additional experts joined the search Saturday to help in the painstaking process of sifting through piles of dirt being shoveled from the ground for anything out of the ordinary, including human bone or tissue, clothing or jewelry.
Investigators remained confident but acknowledged they still don’t know whether the site is related to the disappearance of Susan Powell.

“We’re all very hopeful,” West Valley City Lt. Bill Merritt said. “I guess it’s 50-50 at this point.”

Eleven cadaver dogs have indicated they sense human remains at the site, but none have signaled on the piles of dirt being removed, authorities said.

The search was halted abruptly Friday when a rainstorm swept through the area.

Cadaver dogs led police to the site Wednesday just off a dirt road near the base of Topaz Mountain, a popular rock-hounding spot in remote central Utah. The area is more than 130 miles from the location where Powell was last seen at her West Valley City home on Dec. 7, 2009.

Authorities have been searching the area since Monday. On Wednesday, they said they found human remains but later backtracked, clarifying that cadaver dogs had hit on the site but no remains had been found.
 ::snipping2::
Thanks for the article....that's strange about the dogs not alerting on any of the excavated dirt. A dead body just laid there on the top?    ::pullinghairout::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 17, 2011, 08:03:50 PM
Both KSL.com and The Tribune are reporting the finding of burned wood in the "grave", about 100 pieces of them, ranging in sizes from a quarter to a golf ball. They say that the wood may have been in contact with a corpse and that's why the dogs have been pointing at the site.

The Tribune reports that the digging has stopped, and that police don't plan on digging any further.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=17284572



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on September 17, 2011, 11:15:38 PM
Both KSL.com and The Tribune are reporting the finding of burned wood in the "grave", about 100 pieces of them, ranging in sizes from a quarter to a golf ball. They say that the wood may have been in contact with a corpse and that's why the dogs have been pointing at the site.

The Tribune reports that the digging has stopped, and that police don't plan on digging any further.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=17284572



(http://www.ksl.com/emedia/slc/2493/249375/24937582.jpg?filter=ksl/story_635)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 18, 2011, 10:28:24 AM

bump


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 18, 2011, 10:32:58 AM
Here we go again.........

snipped
DELTA, Utah (ABC 4 News) - After days of searching a gravesite in the west desert near Topaz Mountain, investigators found over 100 pieces of charred wood with traces of what they believe to be human decomposition.

The wood was found about two feet below the earth covering the grave.  Police decided to stop digging once they found the wood, because the cadaver dogs no longer indicated there was a scent deeper in the grave.

Detectives are confident the wood was used to help burn a human body. "We're not talking about someone just touching something and the dead skin cells are left behind.  This is from a dead body and there's a chemical process when someone dies.  About 20 minutes after a person dies, they give off the scent of death and that's what these dogs are smelling," says West Valley Police Lt. Bill Merritt.

Clothing, flesh, or bone could not be found while they were unearthing the burnt pieces of wood, but detectives are hopeful the forensic anthropologist will be able to determine human DNA.
 ::snipping2::
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Forensics-team-finds-charred-wood-at-Susan-Powell/CmNK6v9Xdkq8NTc8u-6vDA.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 18, 2011, 10:58:49 AM
Here we go again.........

snipped
DELTA, Utah (ABC 4 News) - After days of searching a gravesite in the west desert near Topaz Mountain, investigators found over 100 pieces of charred wood with traces of what they believe to be human decomposition.

The wood was found about two feet below the earth covering the grave.  Police decided to stop digging once they found the wood, because the cadaver dogs no longer indicated there was a scent deeper in the grave.

Detectives are confident the wood was used to help burn a human body. "We're not talking about someone just touching something and the dead skin cells are left behind.  This is from a dead body and there's a chemical process when someone dies.  About 20 minutes after a person dies, they give off the scent of death and that's what these dogs are smelling," says West Valley Police Lt. Bill Merritt.

Clothing, flesh, or bone could not be found while they were unearthing the burnt pieces of wood, but detectives are hopeful the forensic anthropologist will be able to determine human DNA.
 ::snipping2::
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Forensics-team-finds-charred-wood-at-Susan-Powell/CmNK6v9Xdkq8NTc8u-6vDA.cspx
Surely that prick Josh couldn't have carried enough wood for a fire so hot to burn up every trace of her except the scent, right?  C'mon, something, anything to show it's her.grrrr


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: beth1970 on September 18, 2011, 11:07:09 AM
Ok, I'm 45 with a 2 yr old so don't get to watch the news that often.  I follow the Casey murdering slore but that's about it.  I caught this on one of the news shows and as someone who knows NOTHING about the case I thought I'd throw this out there.

(sorry can't remember which show ;(  the father in law was talking about Susan being flirtatious with him.  Is there anyway the father forced himself on her & told the husband it was the other way around which prompted the husband (I don't even know his name yet) to murder her, though I suspect it would not take much the husband is clearly psycho.  It is SO obvious both of them are lying.  Good grief.

off to read what the monkeys are saying about the case............


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: beth1970 on September 18, 2011, 11:10:56 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/police-excavating-utah-desert-site-in-search-for-missing-mom/2011/09/17/gIQAOqzIZK_story.html
More officers join search of ‘grave’ at Utah desert site for mom missing for nearly 2 years
September 17, 2011

DELTA, Utah — Authorities had dug about 3 feet down Saturday afternoon into what they’ve described as a shallow grave in the rugged Utah desert as part of a nearly two-year investigation into missing mother, but had so far found no clues.

Two previous days of digging also turned up nothing. Additional experts joined the search Saturday to help in the painstaking process of sifting through piles of dirt being shoveled from the ground for anything out of the ordinary, including human bone or tissue, clothing or jewelry.
Investigators remained confident but acknowledged they still don’t know whether the site is related to the disappearance of Susan Powell.

“We’re all very hopeful,” West Valley City Lt. Bill Merritt said. “I guess it’s 50-50 at this point.”

Eleven cadaver dogs have indicated they sense human remains at the site, but none have signaled on the piles of dirt being removed, authorities said.

The search was halted abruptly Friday when a rainstorm swept through the area.

Cadaver dogs led police to the site Wednesday just off a dirt road near the base of Topaz Mountain, a popular rock-hounding spot in remote central Utah. The area is more than 130 miles from the location where Powell was last seen at her West Valley City home on Dec. 7, 2009.

Authorities have been searching the area since Monday. On Wednesday, they said they found human remains but later backtracked, clarifying that cadaver dogs had hit on the site but no remains had been found.
 ::snipping2::

just now reading up on the case and have a question...........

didn't they say they were acting on a "tip"?  Who would have given them a tip?  Seems like the father & son are tight & closed lips so I can't see either of them telling someone something about it.  Could the "tip" be the GPS that everyone is speculating about?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: beth1970 on September 18, 2011, 11:14:45 AM
just now reading up on the case.

OMG this young lady was/is beautiful.  Every picture I saw showed someone that loved life.  You could just see it in her eyes.  There's no way she just walked away from her kids. 

What is happening in our world.  Why on earth don't these psychopaths just get a divorce!  They honestly believe killing someone is a better answer to joint custody, loss of control & child support.  I'm 45 and I don't know if things were just different thirty years ago or you just didn't hear about it but I don't remember all this spousal killing going on.  Good grief!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 18, 2011, 11:34:28 AM
just now reading up on the case.

OMG this young lady was/is beautiful.  Every picture I saw showed someone that loved life.  You could just see it in her eyes.  There's no way she just walked away from her kids. 

What is happening in our world.  Why on earth don't these psychopaths just get a divorce!  They honestly believe killing someone is a better answer to joint custody, loss of control & child support.  I'm 45 and I don't know if things were just different thirty years ago or you just didn't hear about it but I don't remember all this spousal killing going on.  Good grief!
Some people are so sick that they can't accept rejection or feel like their spouse is a possession or so jealous that they won't endure the other being free and happy or whatever tweaks go on in their psychotic minds that they kill.  It's unbelievable that this wuss could manage to get away with it. It does seem like it happens more now.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 18, 2011, 01:14:20 PM
"Those pieces of wood were used to destroy something -- something that has to do with human decomposition. So, at some point ... that hole up there was a crime scene," said Bill Merritt of the West Valley Police Department.
The fire would have been hot enough to burn a body, but not bones.

snip
http://www.kirotv.com/news/29221894/detail.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on September 18, 2011, 01:26:47 PM
Banned website due to Righthaven, that is why it won't work


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on September 18, 2011, 01:33:24 PM

Blocked website


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 18, 2011, 02:25:14 PM
Please read the link below.  There are a number of websites that we are now blocking.  If you see a http:/** or a ** when you try and post a website then it has been blocked.  Please read the entire article at this link:

http://righthavenvictims.blogspot.com/p/participating-newspapers.html


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9451.0


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 18, 2011, 02:55:54 PM
Please read the link below.  There are a number of websites that we are now blocking.  If you see a http:/** or a ** when you try and post a website then it has been blocked.  Please read the entire article at this link:

http://righthavenvictims.blogspot.com/p/participating-newspapers.html


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9451.0


If you preview the link before posting, it will indicate the ** in the link, and you'll know you need to back out of your post. You see, the link will look okay when you copy and paste it in the box you post in, but hit "preview", look up at it and you'll see what I mean.  If it's got stars, no go.   ::bee::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 18, 2011, 02:57:47 PM
No way did Josh burn her all by himself.  He father is up to his sicko eyebrows in this.  Please, please, please let them have slipped up at some point so that LE can find the evidence they need to prosecute. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 18, 2011, 03:02:54 PM
No way did Josh burn her all by himself.  He father is up to his sicko eyebrows in this.  Please, please, please let them have slipped up at some point so that LE can find the evidence they need to prosecute. 

I agree, Josh had help and I think his father Steve is up to his eyebrows in this.  If the burned wood bits were from burning Susan's body, then I wonder if the body had been moved prior to the burning?  Could it have been elsewhere?  LE might have been watching Josh's movements, but what about Steve Powell"s?  The focus was on Josh, and it could have been a diversion while Steve did some of the dirty deeds.  If there was a body burned there, LE said it wouldn't burn the bones.  Where are the bones?  Who took them and where?   I don't think Steve Powell's hands are clean  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 18, 2011, 04:17:35 PM
This says 'nothing human'
Substance Found in Susan Powell Search Was Charred Wood Not Human Remains
September 18, 2011 02:05 PM EDT
The search for Susan Powell took an unfortunate turn when a substance believed to be human remains turned out to be nothing more than charred wood. Searchers in the case thought they may have located the body of the missing woman after cadaver dogs alerted them at Topaz Mountain in western Utah.

Several days after the discovery, police abandoned their efforts at that particular location. They remain hopeful that scientists may be able to gather evidence from the charred wood, but they acknowleged that it's unlikely.

The case is still classified as a missing persons case, rather than a homicide investigation. However, the sad truth is that Susan Powell is likely deceased. The fact that searchers thought the charrred wood could be her remains indicates that even investigators are losing hope and entertaining the possibility that the woman will not be found alive.

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http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474980328341

This case makes me ill


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Mere on September 18, 2011, 06:51:18 PM
You know these two men have had days....weeks.....months to make multiple visits to
this area and any other.  They could move items, clean up spots, try to undo any damage they did in the past. 

We often talk about JP making three visits....one the night of the
first camp out....then wherever he went with the rental car....and then the more recent
camp out with the boys (if that actually happened).

JP could have gone anywhere with any vehicle at any time.  Too bad there is not a satellite watching over them and all of their vehicles.

                                                  ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 19, 2011, 11:48:27 AM
DELTA, Utah (ABC 4 News) - West Valley Police are expanding their search along the Topaz Mountain Range near Delta, with plans to bring in 100 more ground crew members, an airplane, and a helicopter on Monday.

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On Sunday, a new lead seemed to emerge as a cadaver dog indicated on an area about 10 miles away from where they had been searching. Police will have more dogs investigate the area on Monday when they resume their ground search.

Susan Powell's father, Chuck Cox, has been in the search area every day since Wednesday.  He says he bought a one-way ticket to Utah with the the hope of finding some sort of clue about Susan's disappearance. "I always have my cell phone on or I'm by a phone, waiting for a call from police telling me they've found something," says Cox.
snipped
Updated: 9/18 10:41 pm
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/state/story/West-Valley-Police-broaden-search-for-Susan/kQuUv8F5Z0eQxlv6OeY3eA.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 19, 2011, 01:18:35 PM
This really makes me sick to my stomach.  Didn't he say he took the boys camping so they could have somores or something like?

If so then you know that was his horrible way of referring to burning her body..it is just sickening.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 19, 2011, 01:20:48 PM
I have wondered a time or two if maybe Josh is innocent, and things happened the way he said.

Maybe someone in the neighborhood, or someone Susan met somewhere got into her home, once Josh was gone to take the kids skating that evening. Maybe she was victim of rape, murder, or kidnapping by a stranger. Or, maybe it happened after Josh took off with the babies on tow in the middle night, when weather conditions reached temperatures in the single digits, and many roads were deemed impassable.

That's where my wondering stops.

From the beginning it was clear the motive was not robbery, nothing was reported missing, not even her purse, cellphone, and other personal items.

I question whether anyone who came to the house to rape or murder her would do a thorough cleaning of all evidence of the crime, and take the body. Would the criminal not worry that during the commission of the crimes and the cleanup that Josh might come in?

Or, if someone kidnapped her, why no ransom was requested?

Then I question, if Susan was raped, murdered, or kidnapping, why isn't her husband helping find her? Why did Josh suggest (ala Drew Peterson) that she ran away with another man? Couldn't he consider the possibility that, yes, someone could have harmed her?

A few things seem "hinky" since the beginning.

Quote
"Jan 4, 2010... Tim Peterson also noted that Josh Powell had the worst case of wind burn he had ever seen and severely red hands that he applied lotion to ..."
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/01/04/missing-utah-woman-susan-powell-what-does-husband-josh-know/

NOTE: The babies were not noticed with snow burns, and were fine. So, one has to question if the kids were with him that night or if someone watched them for him.

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"December 18, 2009... Josh Powell says he packed up the family van in the middle of a freezing night on Dec. 7 and took his two young boys on an impromptu camping trip in the snow-covered wilderness. He said his wife stayed home and went to bed. She has not been heard from since. Susan Powell never showed up at her stockbroker job the next morning -- her keys, purse and cell phone all left at home. The husband was a no-show at work as well, saying he lost track of what day it was during the camping excursion."
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-police-puzzled-utah-moms-disappearance,0,3590060.story

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" Chris Jones: What can you tell us about that night? From what we understand you went camping and then came home. Tell us what happened that night?

Josh Powell: Yeah, I just, a lot of times I just go camping with my boys. Nothing big, we just go overnight and we do S'mores and stuff like that. And so I just went with the boys and was planning to do some S'Mores in the morning and then when we got home, um, well on the way home I found out that people were worried about us that we were missing.

Chris Jones: The report is that neither you nor your wife called in sick and they said that's not usual. What are your thoughts on that?

Josh Powell: No, it's not usual. I ….

Chris Jones: Why didn't you call in sick?

Josh Powell: You know, I somehow was thinking it was Sunday. I didn't go to church and I just missed a day and thought we'd come back Sunday.

Chris Jones: So you got confused on what day it was?

Josh Powell: Yeah.

Chris Jones: Now, from what we understand there's nothing, it appears there's no foul play in the home. It appears your wife left her cell phone and purse. Do you have any idea … I mean, does she go off to clear head? Do you have any idea where she could be?

Josh Powell: No, she'll leave during the day but she's never left overnight.

Chris Jones: Does she have any enemies you can think of?

Josh Powell: No, I can't think of anyone.

Chris Jones: Now there's been a lot of talk on the Internet. Obviously in cases like this you, and you know this, that they talk about the husband, that he did something. Do you want to address that?

Josh Powell: I didn't do anything. I mean, I don't know where she's at. I don't even know where to start looking.

Chris Jones: And the boys, what do you tell them about their mom?

Josh Powell: I haven't told them anything. I mean, they've overheard stuff. By the time it all started I was already, it was already late and we went to bed.

Chris Jones: Now your wife laid down that night, she wasn't feeling well. That's when you went camping, right? Where did you guys go camping?

Josh Powell: She wasn't not feeling well. She was feeling well but she just went to bed.

Chris Jones: About 5ish? Is that what we heard? We heard 5, you'd know better than we would.

Josh Powell: No, she went to be that night.

Chris Jones: And what time did you go camping would you say?

Josh Powell: You know, I got out to a pretty late start.

Chris Jones: 9ish, something like that?

Josh Powell: No, it was later. Basically, I'm just trying to figure out what I can do and both try to find her and take care of life in general.

Chris Jones: Where did you guys camp?

Josh Powell: We went down south to some trails down there.

Chris Jones: Do you mean like Moab?

Josh Powell: No, no, we, um, we actually just went down to the Pony Express.

Chris Jones: Pony Express Trail?

Josh Powell: Yeah.

Chris Jones: Are there campgrounds down there?

Josh Powell: I, guess I better go.

Good luck to you, we appreciate your time. "
http://www.examiner.com/family-in-seattle/joshua-powell-blue-cap-interview-video



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Post by: wildmala on September 19, 2011, 01:30:31 PM
"Those pieces of wood were used to destroy something -- something that has to do with human decomposition. So, at some point ... that hole up there was a crime scene," said Bill Merritt of the West Valley Police Department.
The fire would have been hot enough to burn a body, but not bones.

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http://www.kirotv.com/news/29221894/detail.html

Hmmm...then where are the bones?  Burning a body is sick in itself...but it's also sick to think of someone picking the bones out of the ashes...and taking them with them to dispose of elsewhere.  And interesting that they were able to not leave any bone traces behind in the burnt wood...weird.

I've curious to know where this 'tip' is from, too.


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Post by: Blonde on September 19, 2011, 01:57:16 PM
My friend was cremated and you can see small bones and pieces of teeth in the ash  it's very sad ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Post by: Nut44x4 on September 19, 2011, 06:40:40 PM
Same with my mother and my dogs/keep  ::MonkeyShovel::  ::MonkeyShovel::  ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 20, 2011, 01:22:02 PM
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/130203473.html
100 officers search desert for Susan Powell
By JENNIFER DOBNER Associated Press Published: Sep 20, 2011 at 9:15 AM PDT Last Updated: Sep 20, 2011 at 9:38 AM PDT
(http://media.komonews.com/images/110920_powell_search_2.jpg)
SALT LAKE CITY (AP) - A search effort nearly 100 officers-strong resumed across central Utah's expansive mountain desert Tuesday in hopes of finding any sign of a mother of two missing since 2009.
West Valley City police Lt. Bill Merritt said teams will cover the rugged, rocky terrain near Topaz Mountain in Juab County Tuesday on foot, horseback, ATV and by helicopter. A team of dogs trained to detect the scent of a decomposing human body will also be on hand, police Sgt. Mike Powell said.

"We'll continue pushing today and see what we can find," Mike Powell said.
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Post by: grace-land on September 21, 2011, 12:08:07 PM
http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Desert-search-for-missing-Utah-mom-to-continue-2181400.php

Desert search for missing Utah mom to continue
JENNIFER DOBNER, Associated Press
Published 08:20 a.m., Wednesday, September 21, 2011

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Police said they may spend several more days combing a remote area of the Utah desert for signs of a mother missing since 2009.

West Valley City police Sgt. Mike Powell said teams are making good progress in the search for Susan Powell and want to cover more ground.

"There are a number of areas that remain on our map that we still need to cover," said Powell, who is not related to the missing woman. "We're gonna be here for a couple of more days."

Wednesday's efforts will take searchers about 30 miles north and east of where they have been focused over the past week, Powell said.

Police are working near Topaz Mountain, a popular rock-hounding area about 135 miles southwest of West Valley City, where the mother of two was last seen in December 2009.

Searchers have been working on foot, all-terrain vehicles and horseback for more than a week. Cadaver dogs and a state police helicopter have also been employed. So far, police estimate they have covered more than 50 square miles.

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Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Desert-search-for-missing-Utah-mom-to-continue-2181400.php#ixzz1YbU0ei87


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on September 21, 2011, 10:52:41 PM
My thoughts and prayers are with them !
I wish them safety and wisdom to do their job.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on September 22, 2011, 11:17:54 PM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/The-search-for-Susan-Powell-continues-near-Topaz/GajERlkgakG3o3ONCLDG4Q.cspx

The search for Susan Powell continues near Topaz Mountain
Updated: 2:12 pm | Published: 8:26 am

TOPAZ MOUNTAIN, Utah (ABC 4 News) - The search for Susan Powell continued Thursday morning. West Valley Detectives, as well as searchers from multiple Sheriff's departments throughout the state were back out searching for any sign of Susan Cox Powell. 

"The search will look at spots that were tough to get to in previous days," said Sgt. Mike Powell with the West Valley City Police Department. 

On Wednesday, the search came up with "objects that didn't quite fit into the desert," According to Sgt. Powell.  West Valley police cannot say if those items had anything to do with Susan Powell.

On Thursday, the search was to focus on areas that were to steep for an ATV to access as well as other areas that are in the search grid that have not yet been searched.

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Post by: grace-land on September 22, 2011, 11:28:20 PM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=17353671

Charred wood could provide significant clues in Powell investigation
By Andrew Adams
September 22nd, 2011 @ 5:55pm

DELTA — It’s the only evidence that has been recovered during a lengthy search around Topaz Mountain.

About 100 charred pieces of wood was taken from what was initially described as a shallow grave that had been disturbed. The material was discovered as investigators were searching the desert area for clues in the disappearance of missing West Valley mother Susan Cox Powell.

But is the material really evidence? And what can be gleaned from them?

A South Salt Lake-based forensics expert says plenty.

“If the wood is only partially burned, for instance — or didn’t burn that long or wasn’t that hot — and it was in direct contact with biological materials, then it is possible to get a DNA profile from that,” Tim Kupferschmid, executive director of Sorenson Forensics, said Thursday.

West Valley police have said they believe the pieces of wood may have been used to burn human remains, though it is unclear whose remains they might be. Three different sets of trained cadaver dogs independently indicated last week that they detected human decomposition on the pieces, investigators said.

Kupferschmid said there is a concern about how much the DNA has degraded, but it will not result in misidentification.

“No chance in the process does the DNA degrade and turn into someone else’s DNA,” Kupferschmid said. “It’s either going to be a match or you’re going to get no results or inconclusive results.”

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: ospainter on September 23, 2011, 12:55:20 AM
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RT @fox13now: Police say Steven Powell arrested for voyeurism involving children. #Utah #findsusan #SusanPowell


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BREAKING NEWS: WVCPD confirm Josh Powell's father arrested. It is NOT connected to #SusanPowell's disappearance. @fox13now #findsusan

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: ospainter on September 23, 2011, 12:58:17 AM
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WVC PD says in a statement they were involved in the investigation of Steven Powell as well. @fox13now #findsusan #SusanPowell #Utah


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Post by: Tamikosmom on September 23, 2011, 01:18:52 AM
BREAKING NEWS: Josh Powell's father arrested in Washington State
Fox 13 News
10:33 p.m. MDT, September 22, 2011


PUYALLUP, Wash.— Steven Powell, the father-in-law to missing Susan Cox Powell, was arrested Thursday night, according to West Valley City Police.

In a statement from the West Valley City Police Department, Pierce County Sheriff's Office says Steven Powell was arrested based on evidence seized in a recent search warrant conducted by the Sheriff's Office with the support of West Valley Police.

West Valley Police say the arrest is not related to the case involving the disappearance of Susan Cox Powell.

The Pierce County Sheriff's Office has charged Powell with 14 counts of voyeurism involving two child victims and on a count of possession of depictions of minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct in the 2nd degree.

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http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-steven-powell-breaking-news-josh-powells-father-arrested-in-washington-20110922,0,4639336.story




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 23, 2011, 01:19:45 AM
BREAKING NEWS: Josh Powell's father arrested in Washington State
Fox 13 News
10:33 p.m. MDT, September 22, 2011


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Pierce County Sherrif's Department released a timeline of the events that led to Powell's arrest:

Police searched the Powell residence on Aug. 25 that resulted in the seizure of numerous photographs and video recordings.

On Sept. 13 West Valley City Police informed the Pierce County Sheriff's Department the seized photographs and video recordings showed numerous images and recordings of adult and juvenile females. The images appeared to be obtained without the consent or awareness of the persons in the pictures and videos.  In some of the images and videos the persons were often nude or in some state of undress. Some of the images were focused on females' buttocks, breasts, or private areas; some were taken in public places, while others appeared to be taken of the victims in their homes without their knowledge or consent.

On Sept. 17 Pierce County Sheriff's detectives were able to identify and contact several victims, including minors and adults. None of the alleged victims said they had granted permission to, or were even aware of, being photographed or videotaped in their homes.

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-steven-powell-breaking-news-josh-powells-father-arrested-in-washington-20110922,0,4639336.story


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: ospainter on September 23, 2011, 01:23:07 AM
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Pierce Co. WA cops say some pics taken in public places, others in victims' homes. @fox13now #findsusan #SusanPowell #Utah
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It was WVC PD who took the pics, videos and found out what was on it: bit.ly/rtOkjU (http://bit.ly/rtOkjU) @fox13now #findsusan #SusanPowell #Utah
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This came from the Aug. 25 search of the Powell home in Puyallup, WA, cops tell @fox13now. #findsusan #Utah #SusanPowell
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Cops say more than 2,000 images found ranging from girls to young women. @fox13now #findsusan #SusanPowell #Utah
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Cops say Steven Powell arrested on 14 counts of voyeurism involving a minor, 1 of possession of depictions of a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct.
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The arrest of Steven Powell took place about 15 minutes ago, Pierce Co. sheriff's deputies say. @fox13now #findsusan #SusanPowell #Utah
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: ospainter on September 23, 2011, 01:24:48 AM
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It appears whatever WVCPD was looking for in regards to #SusanPowell's disappearance, they also found this!

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: ospainter on September 23, 2011, 01:29:39 AM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391317/Father-in-law-of-Susan-Cox-Powell-arrested-on-charges-of-voyeurism-possession-of-nude-photos-of.html?s_cid=Email-3-705391317

Father-in-law of Susan Cox Powell arrested on charges of voyeurism, possession of nude photos of minors in Washington

WEST VALLEY CITY — Police are reporting that Steven Powell, the father-in-law of missing West Valley City woman Susan Cox Powell has been arrested.

According to The News Tribune in Tacoma, Wash., the arrest was connected to the discovery of "more than 2,000 images of girls and women" in the man's home — including some of Susan Cox Powell.

The newspaper reports that the 61-year-old was arrested Thursday for investigation of voyeurism and possession of depictions of minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct for taking photos of individuals aged 7-years-old to adults that were taken of "intimate parts" with a camera with a telephoto lens.

Sheriff's officials said some of the photos appeared to have been taken from inside Steven Powell's home. It is believed the photos were taken between June 2006 and August 2007.

West Valley Police Sgt. Mike Powell sent out a news release about the arrest late Thursday and said only that "this arrest is not related to the case involving the disappearance of Susan Cox-Powell."

"The arrest stems from an investigation by the Pierce County Sheriff’s Office into evidence seized in a recent search warrant conducted by the Sheriff’s Office with the support of the West Valley City Police Department," Powell wrote.

Police officers from both agencies served a warrant on the Puyallup, Wash. home Steven Powell shares with his son, Josh Powell on Aug. 25. Videos, Susan Cox-Powell's journals and all of the computers in the home were seized during that search.

Mike Powell said West Valley Police would not be releasing any additional information on the arrest and referred calls to the Pierce County Sheriff's Office in Washington.

Calls to the Pierce County Sheriff's Office and were not immediately returned Thursday evening.

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: ospainter on September 23, 2011, 01:35:43 AM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-steven-powell-breaking-news-josh-powells-father-arrested-in-washington-20110922,0,4639336.story

BREAKING NEWS: Josh Powell's father arrested in Washington State

Fox 13 News

11:13 p.m. MDT, September 22, 2011
PUYALLUP, Wash.—
Steven Powell, father-in-law of missing West Valley City mother Susan Cox Powell was arrested in his Puyallup, Washington home tonight on 14 counts of voyeurism involving two child victims and one count of possession of depictions of a minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct.

In a statement from the West Valley City Police Department, Pierce County Sheriff's Office says Steven Powell was arrested based on evidence seized in a recent search warrant conducted by the Sheriff's Office with the support of West Valley Police.

 ::snipping2::

Pierce County Sheriff's department released a timeline of events leading up to Powell's arrest:

1. Police searched the Powell residence on Aug. 25 which resulted in the seizure of numerous photographs and video recordings.

2. On Sept. 13 West Valley City Police informed the Pierce County Sheriff's Department the seized photographs and video recordings showed numerous images and recordings of adult and juvenile females. The images appeared to be obtained without the consent or awareness of the persons in the pictures and videos.  In some of the images and videos the persons were often nude or in some state of undress. Some of the images were focused on females' buttocks, breasts, or private areas; some were taken in public places, while others appeared to be taken of the victims in their homes without their knowledge or consent.

3. Sept. 17 Pierce County Sheriff's detectives obtained an additional search warrant. They were able to identify and contact several victims, including minors and adults. None of the alleged victims said they had granted permission to, or were even aware of, being photographed or videotaped in their homes.

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: ospainter on September 23, 2011, 01:37:03 AM
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UPDATE: @fox13now's sister station @Q13FOX in Seattle is reporting that among the many victims on videotape: Susan Powell. #findsusan #Utah

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: ospainter on September 23, 2011, 01:57:22 AM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-pierce-county-wash-prosecuting-attorneys-statement-regarding-arrest-of-steven-powell-20110922,0,4871565.story

Pierce County, Wash. prosecuting attorneys statement regarding arrest of Steven Powell

TACOMA, Wash. - - Today Pierce County Prosecuting Attorney Mark Lindquist charged Steven Craig Powell, 61, with 14 counts of Voyeurism and one count of Possession of Depictions of Minors Engaged in Sexually Explicit Conduct in the Second Degree.

 ::snipping2::

On August 25, 2011, as part of the ongoing homicide investigation, detectives from the Pierce County Sheriff's Department and West Valley City Police Department executed a search warrant at the Puyallup residence where Joshua and Steven Powell reside. Several computers, digital media, recordings, and photographs were seized. West Valley Police personnel reviewed videotapes and compact discs and found thousands of images of females being videotaped without their knowledge, including Susan Powell. The photographer focuses on the women's buttocks, breasts, and genital areas. Many images were of minor females.

Some of the images and videos saved to compact disc were organized into subfolders, including "Taking bath-1," "Taking bath-2," and "Open window in back house." In these subfolders there are images of two girls who were as young as eight and ten-years-old at the time of the recording. The girls are unclothed and taking a bath, using the toilet, and getting dressed or undressed. In many of the images the photographer zooms in on the girls' breasts, buttocks, and genital areas.

When contacted by law enforcement, the mother of the victims identified her daughters in the images. She explained that she sometimes left the blinds open in the upstairs due to the heat. Crying, she said that she never thought someone would be watching and photographing her daughters.

Investigation by the Pierce County Sheriff's Department determined that the victims lived next door to Steven Powell from June, 2006 to August, 2007. Steven Powell's bedroom window faces the side of the victims' residence and the line of sight matches the camera angle seen in the videos.

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 23, 2011, 06:10:24 AM
http://www.skyvalleychronicle.com/FEATURE-NEWS/STUNNING-DEVELOPMENT-IN-POWELL-MISSING-PERSON-CASE-br-Missing-woman-s-father-in-law-arrested-on-charges-of-voyeurism-and-child-pornography-777882
STUNNING DEVELOPMENT IN POWELL MISSING PERSON CASE
Missing woman’s father-in-law arrested on charges of voyeurism and child pornography.
September 23, 2011

(PUYALLUP, WA) -- The first stunner of a development in the case of a missing Utah mother of two Susan Powell, was the revelation by her father-in-law Steve Powell of Puyallup that he had been sexually flirtatious with the missing woman, that she reciprocated the flirting in sexual ways and that it was likely he was in love with his son’s wife.

The second stunner came Thursday night when Steve Powell, 61, was arrested at his home in Puyallup on a warrant issued earlier in the day and charged with 14 counts of voyeurism and one count of child pornography.

Authorities said the arrest stems from the computers and other materials Utah detectives seized at Powell’s residence recently on a search warrant.

The arrest, said authorities, is not connected to the case of his missing daughter in law.

Pierce County sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said authorites found many pictures among photographs, computer and other digital images of young girls, possibly as young as 7 years of age, in explicit positions.

He said the photos showed pictures of girls in showers, on toilets and in the bath. He described Steven Powell as, “basically a peeping Tom with high-end camera equipment."

Some of the children in the photos are believed to be children of Powell’s neighbors.
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: suzyinpgh on September 23, 2011, 06:45:18 AM
Now that father and son are separated, that could be a good thing.  This could really rattle josh.  He won't know what to do without his daddy.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 07:07:15 AM
Now that father and son are separated, that could be a good thing.  This could really rattle josh.  He won't know what to do without his daddy.

 ::rhino::   ITA Divide and conquer.  Mr. Steve Powell and Joshy have been doing their best to besmirch Susan's name and reputation and now...well, well.  Steve Powell you're a perv and it looks like the cops have evidence of that!!  I don't think Susan's boys should be allowed to stay in a home with someone like Steve Powell.  Josh will either have to stay somewhere else with the boys or Steve Powell will.  Would social services all the boys to stay in that home under the circumstances?  We need justice for Susan, but we need the boys to stay safe.  I wonder if the Cox's could end up with the boys before long? 

Beyond that, I'm going to wait to see the other shoe drop. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 07:15:09 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/BenWinslow (http://twitter.com/#!/BenWinslow)

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@Lera213 Yes. And so far, nothing.
3 hours ago
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UPDATE: Steven Powell officially booked into the Pierce Co. Jail. NO bail. Arraignment likely later today. @fox13now #findsusan #Utah
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@LTLV613 Thank you!
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The latest on the arrest of Steven Powell: bit.ly/rtOkjU (http://bit.ly/rtOkjU) More on @fox13now's #GDU beginning at 5 a.m. #findsusan #SusanPowell #Utah
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I haven't been able to confirm. RT @FindSusan: @BenWinslow Hey Ben, kids have been removed and are in child protective custody #findsusan
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Is Steven Powell now a person of interest in #SusanPowell's disappearance? "That's going to be up to WVC," Pierce Co. cops say. #findsusan
4 hours ago
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Pierce Co. Sheriff's Office on #SusanPowell pics seized: "They were secretly taken and inappropriate." @fox13now #findsusan #Utah
4 hours ago
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UPDATE: WVC PD detectives in Puyallup, WA tonight when Steven Powell was arrested. @fox13now #findsusan #Utah

4 hours ago
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VIDEO: Interview w/ Pierce Co. cops on Steven Powell's arrest by @Q13FOX: bit.ly/n3uLxB (http://bit.ly/n3uLxB) @fox13now #findsusan #SusanPowell #Utah
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ICYMI: bit.ly/pvaPJr (http://bit.ly/pvaPJr) What Josh Powell tells @fox13now he did with the rental car. #findsusan #Utah
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A quick check of court records shows the 9/23 hearing was canceled, and another hearing scheduled for next week. @fox13now #findsusan
5 hours ago
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Ironically, Steve & Josh Powell due in court today for hearing on barring them from publishing #SusanPowell's diaries. @fox13now #findsusan
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@tutablu Utah disgusting? As opposed to Idaho disgusting? Or perhaps Georgia disgusting? Maybe New Hampshire?
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@TrueAggieFan But I had to say it.
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FYI, our sister station @Q13FOX is now reporting Steve Powell is in police custody. @fox13now #findsusan #SusanPowell #Utah
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From the Pierce Co. prosecutor: files entitled "taking bath-1" and "Open window in back house." Victims as young as 8. @fox13now #findsusan   ::MonkeyMad::
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UPDATE: Just got a statement from WA prosecutors confirming #SusanPowell a victim of voyeurism: bit.ly/qF0Uip (http://bit.ly/qF0Uip) @fox13now #findsusan
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"The images featured the women’s buttocks, breasts, and genital areas," @Q13FOX is reporting. @fox13now #findsusan #SusanPowell #Utah
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.@Q13FOX says prosecutors tell them WVC PD discovered #SusanPowell had been videotaped without her knowledge. @fox13now #findsusan #Utah
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UPDATE: @fox13now's sister station @Q13FOX in Seattle is reporting that among the many victims on videotape: Susan Powell. #findsusan #Utah
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For tweeps asking, the children are in the custody of Josh Powell, who has not been charged with anything. #SusanPowell #findsusan
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UPDATE: New info on how the #SusanPowell search warrant led to the arrest of Steve Powell: bit.ly/rtOkjU (http://bit.ly/rtOkjU) @fox13now #findsusan #Utah
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 07:20:47 AM
Steve the perv took videos of his neighbors little girls!!   ::MonkeyMad::

http://www.king5.com/home/Steven-Powell-fath-130403423.html
Steve Powell arrested for voyeurism and possession of child porn
September 22, 2011

 ::snipping2::
Josh Powell's father, Steven, is in custody but not in connection with Susan's disappearance.

Steven, 61 of Puyallup, has been charged with 14 counts of voyeurism involving two child victims and one count of child porn possession.
 ::snipping2::
The West Valley, Utah police personnel found thousands of images of females being videotaped without their knowledge, including Susan Powell.  Deputies have been able to identify several victims including minors and adults who said they never gave permission for them to be photographed.

The prosecutors office says two victims were Powell's neighbors in 2006 and 2007 and the videos appear to line up with Steven Powell's bedroom window. 

When contacted by law enforcement the mother of the victims identified her daughters in the images.  She explained that she sometimes left the blinds open in the upstairs due to heat.  Crying, she said that she never thought someone would be watching and photographing her daughters, according to a press release from the Pierce County Prosecuting office.

When reached over the phone regarding the arrest of Steven, Chuck Cox, the father of Susan said, "We are relieved that the children are out of the house and have been taken into protective custody."

Powell is expected to be arraigned on Friday in the Pierce County Superior Court.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 07:22:31 AM


http://www.king5.com/home/Steven-Powell-fath-130403423.html
Steve Powell arrested for voyeurism and possession of child porn
September 22, 2011

 ::snipping2::

"When reached over the phone regarding the arrest of Steven, Chuck Cox, the father of Susan said, "We are relieved that the children are out of the house and have been taken into protective custody."


 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on September 23, 2011, 07:53:02 AM
 ::snipping2::

Investigators took him into custody Thursday night, sheriff’s spokesman Ed Troyer said. He will be arraigned today in Superior Court.

Some images were of Susan Powell, the 28-year-old Puyallup native who disappeared from her West Valley City, Utah, home in December 2009, Troyer said.

Most were of other females. Those photographed ranged from 7 years old to adults. Some of the victims photographed were nude. Detectives believe many of the girls and young women photographed were unaware they were being watched.

The photos – which focused on the victims’ intimate parts – were taken in public or through windows with a telephoto lens, Troyer said. Some were taken from Steve Powell’s home, he said.

Read more: http://www.theolympian.com/2011/09/23/1811095/susan-powells-father-in-law-arrested.html#ixzz1Ym94cCue


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on September 23, 2011, 08:12:55 AM
thanks i was just wondering about the boys,when i read about the creep
maybe the boys will talk about their mom now

the monkeys had SP pegged as a creep,from the beginning
  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 08:35:36 AM
thanks i was just wondering about the boys,when i read about the creep
maybe the boys will talk about their mom now

the monkeys had SP pegged as a creep,from the beginning
  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::rhino:: 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 08:37:24 AM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 08:44:37 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/child-porn-charge-father-law-missing-mom-14587900
Child Porn Charge on Father-in-Law of Missing Mom
September 23, 2011

(http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/abc_powell_arrest_jef_110923_wg.jpg)
Steven Powell, 61, was arrested at his Puyallup, Wash., home for child pornography possession. (ABC News)

The father-in-law of a missing Utah woman was charged Thursday with voyeurism and possession of child pornography after police investigating her disappearance came across thousands of images of women videotaped without their knowledge, some of his daughter-in-law, Pierce County authorities said.

Steven Powell, 61, was arrested at his Puyallup, Wash., home and set for arraignment Friday in Superior Court.


Prosecutor Mark Lindquist said Powell was charged with 14 felony counts of voyeurism and one count of possession of child pornography. He said police found "thousands of images of females being videotaped without their knowledge, including Susan Powell," on tapes and discs seized from his home during an Aug. 25 search as part of their investigation into her disappearance.
 ::snipping2::
"The photographer focuses on the women's buttocks, breasts," Lindquist said in a statement. "Many images were of minor females."

The images included shots of two girls who were as young as 8 and 10 years old at the time, the prosecutor said.
 ::snipping2::
Video at Link


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 08:46:29 AM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 08:48:59 AM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-susan-powell-judge-to-consider-injunction-requested-by-susan-powells-parents-20110923,0,2253187.story
Judge to consider injunction requested by Susan Powell's parents
September 23, 2011

PIERCE COUNTY, Wash.—

A judge Friday will consider whether to grant an injunction requested by parents of missing West Valley City mother Susan Powell.

Chuck and Judy Powell want to stop their son-in-law Josh Powell and his father Steven from posting excerpts of Susan’s childhood diaries online.  Last month, the court issued a temporary restraining order that barred the Powells from publishing Susan's diary entries and mandated that they to stop disseminating entries to the media.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 08:58:46 AM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-pierce-county-wash-prosecuting-attorneys-statement-regarding-arrest-of-steven-powell-20110922,0,4871565.story
Statement: Pierce County, Wash. prosecuting attorneys on arrest of Steven Powell
September 23, 2011

The following is a statement from Pierce County, Wash. prosecuting attorneys on the arrest of Steven Powell Thursday night:

Today Pierce County Prosecuting Attorney Mark Lindquist charged Steven Craig Powell, 61, with 14 counts of Voyeurism and one count of Possession of Depictions of Minors Engaged in Sexually Explicit Conduct in the Second Degree.
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 09:08:15 AM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Kimmy53 on September 23, 2011, 09:32:48 AM
I hope that this is only the beginning of the downfall of that Freak Steve and his Creep son Josh.   This makes me so sick.  That nasty pervert.  Even though authorities say this has nothing to do with Susan's disappearance, I think it does.  It shows what a piece of Sh** Steve is....It also helps to discount his accusations about Susan. 

I am so thankful those boys are in protective custody.  Perhaps the judge will reconsider the Cox's requests for visitation.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on September 23, 2011, 09:36:40 AM
OMG, I knew he was a CREEP

THANK GOD the kids are out of that house now.  What a piece of sh** Steve Powell is.  I'm sure Josh is just as bad. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 23, 2011, 09:37:27 AM
I hope Josh is smarter than he looks.  His daddy is going down and he'll take Joshy with him if he can.  I hope and pray the Susan's parents get custody of the kids.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 09:41:44 AM
OMG, I knew he was a CREEP

THANK GOD the kids are out of that house now.  What a piece of sh** Steve Powell is.  I'm sure Josh is just as bad. 

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 23, 2011, 10:02:03 AM
Wow..what great news that this old perv is behind bars..tick tock for Josh..Topaz Mountain seems about to give up it's secrets..I hope they find DNA of Susan's on the charred wood.

Relieved those young boys are out of the perv and his son's care for now..hope the Cox's are given custody..those little guys have been through a lot of misery, in my opinion, living with these two freaks.....


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 23, 2011, 11:20:28 AM
I'm trying to remember an interview in early August, before the Ely search. A woman talked about how Steve had accosted Susan so many times while she was living in his home that she (Susan) urged Josh to move to Utah, to avoid Steve.

The woman said that Steve kept Susan's panties and stashed it inside a "porn closet." She also said that when police did a search of Steve's home, they did not even look inside the cabinet, that they walked by it and never searched it.

After this interview, we had the Ely search, the wild statements by the Powells, then the South of Tooele searches, and now this.

I know the police has done a lot of work on the case, more so than for many other cases.

But, I can't help to wonder... had the police done a thorough search back then, and found this "porn closet/cabinet" during the initial search of the Pullyalup home... wouldn't they have found all these porno pictures, since they were done back in 2006 and 2007?

I wonder if having those pictures at hand way back then would've made a difference in the outcome of the case.

I think the woman who gave the interview was a friend of Susan's, or Josh's sister... will try to find this later on. I hate searching, and I hope someone else remembers this.

-------

Anyway... BRAVOOOOOOOO!!!! Let's erase that smirk off Steve's face, about time.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 23, 2011, 11:41:01 AM
If this sicko took photos of his daughter-in-law without her knowledge ... could it be that he did the same with his grandsons?

Janet

+++++

Steve Powell arrested for voyeurism and possession of child porn
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 10:02 PM
Updated today at 6:49 AM


<snipped>

When reached over the phone regarding the arrest of Steven, Susan Powell's father Chuck Cox said, "We are relieved that the children are out of the house and have been taken into protective custody."

<snipped>

http://www.king5.com/home/Steven-Powell-fath-130403423.html
 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 23, 2011, 11:47:35 AM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Steven Powell arrested, charged with voyeurism involving children
9:21 a.m. MDT, September 23, 2011


PUYALLUP, Wash.— The father-in-law of missing West Valley City mother Susan Cox Powell was arrested late Thursday on criminal charges accusing him of secretly photographing and videotaping young girls and women -- including Susan, police said.

Steven Powell, 61, was booked into the Pierce County Jail, saying nothing to reporters. He was charged by Pierce Co. prosecutors with 14 counts of voyeurism and one count of possession of depictions of minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct in the second degree.

Powell will be at the Pierce County courthouse in Tacoma, Wash. at 1:30 p.m. PT for his arraignment hearing. He was arrested in the aftermath of a search warrant served on his home Aug. 25 in connection with the disappearance of Susan. Among the items seized by both West Valley City police and Pierce Co. Sheriff's deputies were photographs and videos, police said.

"West Valley Police personnel reviewed videotapes and compact discs and found thousands of images of females being videotaped without their knowledge, including Susan Powell. The photographer focuses on the women's buttocks, breasts, and genital areas. Many images were of minor females," prosecutors said in a statement to FOX 13.

The images of Susan Powell appeared to have been recorded without her consent, Pierce Co. Sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer told FOX 13's sister station Q13 in Seattle.

"They were secretly taken and inappropriate," he said.

Prosecutors said videos were found on discs labeled "Taking bath-1," "Taking bath-2," and "Open window in back house."

"In these subfolders there are images of two girls who were as young as eight and ten-years-old at the time of the recording. The girls are unclothed and taking a bath, using the toilet, and getting dressed or undressed. In many of the images the photographer zooms in on the girls' breasts, buttocks, and genital areas," prosecutors said.

Troyer told Q13 they had been in contact with many of the other alleged victims.

On September 17, Pierce County Sheriff’s detectives obtained a search warrant to further investigate the Powell residence for the possible crimes of voyeurism or child pornography, Q13 reported. West Valley City police were in Puyallup when Steven Powell was arrested.

Police say they are confident all of the pictures were taken by Steven Powell. Q13 Fox Reporter Angela King reported that several of the pictures were taken at angles specifically related to Steven's bedroom.


<snipped>

Josh Powell moved from West Valley City to Washington State with the couple's two boys a few months after Susan disappeared. He is currently living in his father's home in Puyallup.

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-steven-powell-breaking-news-josh-powells-father-arrested-in-washington-20110922,0,4639336.story



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 23, 2011, 11:49:47 AM
I hope Josh is smarter than he looks.  His daddy is going down and he'll take Joshy with him if he can.  I hope and pray the Susan's parents get custody of the kids.


 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 23, 2011, 12:16:18 PM
Pierce County Corrections Booking 2011265067
Inmate:    POWELL, STEVEN CRAIG    

Booking Date / Time:    09/22/2011 23:27
Future Release Date / Time:    
Race:    WHITE
Ethnicity:    NON-HISPANIC
Gender:    MALE
Arresting Agency:    PIERCE COUNTY SHERIFF
PCN Number:    540537101

14    VOYEURISM (C)    BENCH WARRANT    PIERCE COUNTY SHERIFF    SUPERIOR CT - PIERCE CTY             
      11-1-03893-1       NONE
      
1    POSS DEP MIN ENG SEX EXP CONDUCT
   BENCH WARRANT    PIERCE COUNTY SHERIFF    SUPERIOR CT - PIERCE CTY             
      11-1-03893-1       CONCURRENT

http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/cfapps/linx/calendar/GetBooking.cfm?booking_id=2011265067

RCW 9A.44.115
Voyeurism.
   

(1) As used in this section:

     (a) "Intimate areas" means any portion of a person's body or undergarments that is covered by clothing and intended to be protected from public view;

     (b) "Photographs" or "films" means the making of a photograph, motion picture film, videotape, digital image, or any other recording or transmission of the image of a person;

     (c) "Place where he or she would have a reasonable expectation of privacy" means:

     (i) A place where a reasonable person would believe that he or she could disrobe in privacy, without being concerned that his or her undressing was being photographed or filmed by another; or

     (ii) A place where one may reasonably expect to be safe from casual or hostile intrusion or surveillance;

     (d) "Surveillance" means secret observation of the activities of another person for the purpose of spying upon and invading the privacy of the person;

     (e) "Views" means the intentional looking upon of another person for more than a brief period of time, in other than a casual or cursory manner, with the unaided eye or with a device designed or intended to improve visual acuity.

     (2) A person commits the crime of voyeurism if, for the purpose of arousing or gratifying the sexual desire of any person, he or she knowingly views, photographs, or films:

     (a) Another person without that person's knowledge and consent while the person being viewed, photographed, or filmed is in a place where he or she would have a reasonable expectation of privacy; or

     (b) The intimate areas of another person without that person's knowledge and consent and under circumstances where the person has a reasonable expectation of privacy, whether in a public or private place.

     (3) Voyeurism is a class C felony.

     (4) This section does not apply to viewing, photographing, or filming by personnel of the department of corrections or of a local jail or correctional facility for security purposes or during investigation of alleged misconduct by a person in the custody of the department of corrections or the local jail or correctional facility.

     (5) If a person is convicted of a violation of this section, the court may order the destruction of any photograph, motion picture film, digital image, videotape, or any other recording of an image that was made by the person in violation of this section.

[2003 c 213 § 1; 1998 c 221 § 1.]

Notes:
     Effective date -- 2003 c 213: "This act is necessary for the immediate preservation of the public peace, health, or safety, or support of the state government and its existing public institutions, and takes effect immediately [May 12, 2003]." [2003 c 213 § 2.]

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.44.115



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 23, 2011, 12:32:50 PM
 ::justice2NJ::  OMG! Finally a break, it is time to divide and conquer. 
His perverted mindset could not have been missed by Josh. Susan's murder surely is connected.
Was she ready to leave Josh? Did she know too much about the pervert so father and son couldn't allow her to be free?
Don't anyone take this wrong but I'm relieved that his porn collection hasn't been reported to have juvenile boys in it....thank God the kids are out of their custody.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 12:40:20 PM
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In a declaration, Josh Powell suggests his wife left the family or committed suicide. @fox13now #SusanPowell #findsusan #Utah
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I've got Josh Powell's comments about his wife's disappearance. Read it here: scr.bi/n4lvRl (http://scr.bi/n4lvRl) @fox13now #findsusan #SusanPowell
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 23, 2011, 01:00:25 PM
I know I'm talking to myself, here, but will continue to post as I believe this is somewhat important, just for the record.

I found the interview I mentioned above. The person's name is: Sandy Crain-Anderson, her mask name was "Julia" for the anonymous interview.

Quote
“It’s been long enough,” she said. “I originally called the police in January 2010, right after Susan disappeared, because I felt like I had vital information about the Powell family. They were contacted again in April 2010 and October 2010, and yet they never called me back until late July 2011.”

It was hearing that SP and JP were planning on releasing Susan's journals that prompted her to speak out.

Quote
“Steve was very proud of his stash of porn magazines he kept in a locked cabinet in his bedroom. He showed them to me when he lived at his previous Puyallup home,” Sandy said.

Proud?

Quote
Last fall Sandy said Steve boasted that he still had the pair of Susan’s very sacred Mormon Temple Garment underwear that he stole from the dirty laundry when she and Josh lived at his house at the beginning of their marriage.

“Not only did he stash her underwear in his locked bedroom cabinet, he said he stashed her pictures, journals, and porn in there too,” Sandy said.

And, he said SHE was after him? What a dope!

Quote
“In fact,” she said, “when police went to search his house last fall they missed it – Steve told me they never even looked in his locked cabinet so he still has her private belongings, including her underwear.

This is the quote I was looking for. And, my question remains... had the police looked inside the cabinet and found his "stash"... could've it have affected the outcome of this case?

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“From the beginning of Josh and Susan’s marriage Steve expressed very explicit fantasies about her,” she said.

Sandy said Steve was “madly obsessed” with Susan through the time of her disappearance. Now, he’s obsessed with his theory that Susan ran off with a missing Utah man, Steven Koecher.

Great article by Isabelle Zehnder
Original date: August 21, 2011
Updated: August 29, 2011
http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/finally-light-shed-on-why-susan-cox-powell-feared-her-father-law#ixzz1Y6L5JT3n (http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/finally-light-shed-on-why-susan-cox-powell-feared-her-father-law#ixzz1Y6L5JT3n)



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 01:14:59 PM
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@youtah Originals can't be published. Copies distributed must be destroyed.
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BREAKING NEWS: Judge orders #SusanPowell's diaries to not be published, orders copies destroyed, @Q13FOX reports. @fox13now #findsusan
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 23, 2011, 01:15:07 PM
I know I'm talking to myself, here, but will continue to post as I believe this is somewhat important, just for the record.

I found the interview I mentioned above. The person's name is: Sandy Crain-Anderson, her mask name was "Julia" for the anonymous interview.

Quote
“It’s been long enough,” she said. “I originally called the police in January 2010, right after Susan disappeared, because I felt like I had vital information about the Powell family. They were contacted again in April 2010 and October 2010, and yet they never called me back until late July 2011.”

It was hearing that SP and JP were planning on releasing Susan's journals that prompted her to speak out.

Quote
“Steve was very proud of his stash of porn magazines he kept in a locked cabinet in his bedroom. He showed them to me when he lived at his previous Puyallup home,” Sandy said.

Proud?

Quote
Last fall Sandy said Steve boasted that he still had the pair of Susan’s very sacred Mormon Temple Garment underwear that he stole from the dirty laundry when she and Josh lived at his house at the beginning of their marriage.

“Not only did he stash her underwear in his locked bedroom cabinet, he said he stashed her pictures, journals, and porn in there too,” Sandy said.

And, he said SHE was after him? What a dope!

Quote
“In fact,” she said, “when police went to search his house last fall they missed it – Steve told me they never even looked in his locked cabinet so he still has her private belongings, including her underwear.

This is the quote I was looking for. And, my question remains... had the police looked inside the cabinet and found his "stash"... could've it have affected the outcome of this case?

Quote
“From the beginning of Josh and Susan’s marriage Steve expressed very explicit fantasies about her,” she said.

Sandy said Steve was “madly obsessed” with Susan through the time of her disappearance. Now, he’s obsessed with his theory that Susan ran off with a missing Utah man, Steven Koecher.

Great article by Isabelle Zehnder
Original date: August 21, 2011
Updated: August 29, 2011
http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/finally-light-shed-on-why-susan-cox-powell-feared-her-father-law#ixzz1Y6L5JT3n (http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/finally-light-shed-on-why-susan-cox-powell-feared-her-father-law#ixzz1Y6L5JT3n)



Wow..thank you for bringing all that here. Sometimes I really don't understand how things like this are dismissed or overlooked.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: wildmala on September 23, 2011, 01:17:13 PM

So Dad is in jail, kids are in protective costudy...BUT wondering where Josh is right now...

  SOOO glad the kids are away from them!!!!!   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 01:24:56 PM
Just some thoughts I've had after reading about Steve Powell's arrest...

What a sick, arrogant excuse for a man!  I guess Steve thought everyone bought his and Josh's smear campaign on Susan and never guessed LE would come to his house and take his computer and other materials.  Didn't  it occur to Steve Powell that could happen?  Why did he keep those videos and materials on his computer and in his home?  It defies common sense imo.  His DIL is missing and his son is staying in his house.  LE could get warrants and come in any time.  Was it because he just didn't want to part with his sick stash of images or did he think he himself, his home and possessions were beyond the reach of LE?   ::MonkeyNoNo::  Either way, I'm glad Steve's past sins are starting to catch up with him.  JMHO


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 23, 2011, 01:28:49 PM
Just some thoughts I've had after reading about Steve Powell's arrest...

What a sick, arrogant excuse for a man!  I guess Steve thought everyone bought his and Josh's smear campaign on Susan and never guessed LE would come to his house and take his computer and other materials.  Didn't  it occur to Steve Powell that could happen?  Why did he keep those videos and materials on his computer and in his home?  It defies common sense imo.  His DIL is missing and his son is staying in his house.  LE could get warrants and come in any time.  Was it because he just didn't want to part with his sick stash of images or did he think he himself, his home and possessions were beyond the reach of LE?   ::MonkeyNoNo::  Either way, I'm glad Steve's past sins are starting to catch up with him.  JMHO

Couldn't have said it better, Muffy! BRAVO!!! :smt038


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 01:32:01 PM

So Dad is in jail, kids are in protective costudy...BUT wondering where Josh is right now...

  SOOO glad the kids are away from them!!!!!   ::MonkeyDance::

 ::rhino:: 

Wherever Josh is, he is probably sweating bullets and needed a change of underwear  ::MonkeyDevil::  With Daddy not there to help continue the smear campaign against Susan and no one else to smirk with him in unison, he may be in a bit of a quandary, not to mention no telling what Daddy may say/admit to while incarcerated.  He's lost custody of his sons and with Daddy in jail that might mean the end of living in his house and etc.   JMHO


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 01:40:23 PM
 ::MonkeyDance::

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 01:43:57 PM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-powell-missing-utah-moms-father-seeks-custody-of-kids-20110923,0,7988218.story
Susan Cox Powell's father seeks custody of kids
September 23, 2011

A lawyer for the father of missing Utah mom Susan Powell said Friday he plans to file a court motion asking that her father, Chuck Cox, take custody of her two young children after the boys' other grandfather was arrested on charges of voyeurism and child pornography.

The boys had been living with their father, Josh Powell, at the Puyallup home of his father, Steven Powell, 61, who was arrested Thursday at his home. He was set for arraignment Friday in Superior Court.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 01:54:59 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/BenWinslow
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Chuck Cox says he wants custody "in anticipation of Josh being arrested for disappearance/kidnapping/murder" of #SusanPowell. #findsusan
2 minutes ago
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In court docs, Chuck Cox seeks custody "in anticipation of Josh being arrested for the disappearance/kidnapping/murder" of #SusanPowell.
9 minutes ago


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 23, 2011, 01:56:49 PM
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Chuck Cox says he wants custody "in anticipation of Josh being arrested for disappearance/kidnapping/murder" of #SusanPowell. #findsusan
2 minutes ago
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In court docs, Chuck Cox seeks custody "in anticipation of Josh being arrested for the disappearance/kidnapping/murder" of #SusanPowell.
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RutRoh joshster.   Hasn't Mr. Cox been with the Topaz investigators all week? hmmmmmmmmm


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: wildmala on September 23, 2011, 01:57:36 PM

So Dad is in jail, kids are in protective costudy...BUT wondering where Josh is right now...

  SOOO glad the kids are away from them!!!!!   ::MonkeyDance::

 ::rhino:: 

Wherever Josh is, he is probably sweating bullets and needed a change of underwear  ::MonkeyDevil::  With Daddy not there to help continue the smear campaign against Susan and no one else to smirk with him in unison, he may be in a bit of a quandary, not to mention no telling what Daddy may say/admit to while incarcerated.  He's lost custody of his sons and with Daddy in jail that might mean the end of living in his house and etc.   JMHO

ITA!  I hope this means answers speeding up quickly for Susan's family.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 01:58:09 PM


http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/missing-utah-moms-father-1187125.html
Missing Utah mom's father seeks custody of kids
September 23, 2011

TACOMA, Wash. — A Washington state court commissioner says he won't decide on the custody of a missing Utah mom's two young boys until after Child Protective Services finishes its investigation.

Another hearing on Susan Powell's boys is scheduled for Wednesday.


A lawyer for her father, Chuck Cox, argued Friday that the children should be removed from a home that their father, Josh Powell, shares with his father, Steven Powell, who was arrested on voyeurism and child pornography charges.

A lawyer for the state attorney general confirmed that the boys had been placed in foster care.

Steven Powell, 61, was arrested Thursday at his home. He was set for arraignment Friday in Superior Court.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 23, 2011, 02:04:36 PM
I know I'm talking to myself, here, but will continue to post as I believe this is somewhat important, just for the record.

I found the interview I mentioned above. The person's name is: Sandy Crain-Anderson, her mask name was "Julia" for the anonymous interview.

Quote
“It’s been long enough,” she said. “I originally called the police in January 2010, right after Susan disappeared, because I felt like I had vital information about the Powell family. They were contacted again in April 2010 and October 2010, and yet they never called me back until late July 2011.”

It was hearing that SP and JP were planning on releasing Susan's journals that prompted her to speak out.

Quote
“Steve was very proud of his stash of porn magazines he kept in a locked cabinet in his bedroom. He showed them to me when he lived at his previous Puyallup home,” Sandy said.

Proud?

Quote
Last fall Sandy said Steve boasted that he still had the pair of Susan’s very sacred Mormon Temple Garment underwear that he stole from the dirty laundry when she and Josh lived at his house at the beginning of their marriage.

“Not only did he stash her underwear in his locked bedroom cabinet, he said he stashed her pictures, journals, and porn in there too,” Sandy said.

And, he said SHE was after him? What a dope!

Quote
“In fact,” she said, “when police went to search his house last fall they missed it – Steve told me they never even looked in his locked cabinet so he still has her private belongings, including her underwear.

This is the quote I was looking for. And, my question remains... had the police looked inside the cabinet and found his "stash"... could've it have affected the outcome of this case?

Quote
“From the beginning of Josh and Susan’s marriage Steve expressed very explicit fantasies about her,” she said.

Sandy said Steve was “madly obsessed” with Susan through the time of her disappearance. Now, he’s obsessed with his theory that Susan ran off with a missing Utah man, Steven Koecher.

Great article by Isabelle Zehnder
Original date: August 21, 2011
Updated: August 29, 2011
http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/finally-light-shed-on-why-susan-cox-powell-feared-her-father-law#ixzz1Y6L5JT3n (http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/finally-light-shed-on-why-susan-cox-powell-feared-her-father-law#ixzz1Y6L5JT3n)



Wow..thank you for bringing all that here. Sometimes I really don't understand how things like this are dismissed or overlooked.


Another important point being, that her interview came out in August 21, 2011... and the warrant to search SP's house was executed August 25, 2011.

She was first contacted by LE on "late July" after a year and a half of having called police, as she says in the interview.

I think Sandy was INSTRUMENTAL in helping to get the search warrant for Daddy Dearest's porn closet, and his subsequent arrest.

I bet Steve thought that since they missed the closet on the original search, that they would never come back to search it again.

Boy he was wrong!



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 02:18:40 PM
Yeah, he was really wrong wasn't he Moosee!  I'll bet Steve Powell doesn't even really know what hit him yet.  It might take a bit for him to get past his arrogance and realize he's in deep doo-doo! I posted a picture in the photo thread of LE putting Steve in the back of a vehicle to transport him to jail.  He's handcuffed behind his back.  I hope that was really, really uncomfortable all the way in.  He's probably just shocked right now.  Wait till reality sets in.  JMHO

Link to Steve's photo:  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6863.msg1471140#msg1471140
Does it look like a deer in the headlights to anyone?





Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 02:20:00 PM
Aw, what the heck, I'll just post it here too:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/child-porn-charge-father-law-missing-mom-14587900
(http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/abc_powell_arrest_jef_110923_wg.jpg)
Steven Powell, 61, was arrested at his Puyallup, Wash., home for child pornography possession. (ABC News)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: wildmala on September 23, 2011, 02:29:25 PM
Aw, what the heck, I'll just post it here too:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/child-porn-charge-father-law-missing-mom-14587900
(http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/abc_powell_arrest_jef_110923_wg.jpg)
Steven Powell, 61, was arrested at his Puyallup, Wash., home for child pornography possession. (ABC News)

I'm sorry...just looking at him...the man just grosses me out.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 02:37:49 PM
I agree wildmala, just gross, isn't he!  I'm glad the boys are away from him now.  Thank goodness Sandy was able to get the wheels turning to get him arrested! 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 23, 2011, 02:38:21 PM
::MonkeyDance::

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URGENT: Chuck Cox (#SusanPowell's dad) has just filed for custody of his grandkids. @fox13now #findsusan #Utah
3 minutes ago
::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 23, 2011, 02:43:44 PM
Just some thoughts I've had after reading about Steve Powell's arrest...

What a sick, arrogant excuse for a man!  I guess Steve thought everyone bought his and Josh's smear campaign on Susan and never guessed LE would come to his house and take his computer and other materials.  Didn't  it occur to Steve Powell that could happen?  Why did he keep those videos and materials on his computer and in his home?  It defies common sense imo.  His DIL is missing and his son is staying in his house.  LE could get warrants and come in any time.  Was it because he just didn't want to part with his sick stash of images or did he think he himself, his home and possessions were beyond the reach of LE?   ::MonkeyNoNo::  Either way, I'm glad Steve's past sins are starting to catch up with him.  JMHO

Couldn't have said it better, Muffy! BRAVO!!! :smt038
::rhino::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 23, 2011, 02:43:57 PM
I agree wildmala, just gross, isn't he!  I'm glad the boys are away from him now.  Thank goodness Sandy was able to get the wheels turning to get him arrested! 

eeew, can you imagine that face, heavy mouth breathing behind the curtain?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 02:47:23 PM
I agree wildmala, just gross, isn't he!  I'm glad the boys are away from him now.  Thank goodness Sandy was able to get the wheels turning to get him arrested! 

eeew, can you imagine that face, heavy mouth breathing behind the curtain?

Double eeeeeew! 

(http://bestsmileys.com/puking/3.gif)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 02:55:45 PM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Kimmy53 on September 23, 2011, 03:38:52 PM
I pray the judge sees Josh & Steve for who they really are and lets the Cox's have those boys. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 23, 2011, 03:44:34 PM
Aw, what the heck, I'll just post it here too:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/child-porn-charge-father-law-missing-mom-14587900
(http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/abc_powell_arrest_jef_110923_wg.jpg)
Steven Powell, 61, was arrested at his Puyallup, Wash., home for child pornography possession. (ABC News)

Imagine that face, sneaking up behind his window blinds with a camera and taking pictures of small children bathing...

... the stuff nightmares are made of.

And, he was the one accusing Susan of being "disturbed."



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 23, 2011, 03:50:24 PM


<----- Notice Steve's resemblance to my profile picture


(http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/abc_powell_arrest_jef_110923_wg.jpg)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 23, 2011, 03:57:15 PM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-powell-missing-utah-moms-father-seeks-custody-of-kids-20110923,0,7988218.story
Susan Cox Powell's father seeks custody of kids
Associated Press
11:10 a.m. MDT, September 23, 2011
TACOMA, Wash. (AP) -- —


A lawyer for the father of missing Utah mom Susan Powell said Friday he plans to file a court motion asking that her father, Chuck Cox, take custody of her two young children after the boys' other grandfather was arrested on charges of voyeurism and child pornography.

The boys had been living with their father, Josh Powell, at the Puyallup home of his father, Steven Powell, 61, who was arrested Thursday at his home. He was set for arraignment Friday in Superior Court.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: akmom on September 23, 2011, 03:59:22 PM
Please, please let this lead to Justice for Susan!!!  I want these two creeps to go down!!!!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 23, 2011, 04:01:59 PM
PDF: Chuck Cox's petition for custody  http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-pdf-chuck-coxs-petition-for-custody-20110923,0,6614691.acrobat

PDF: Motion for Temp Order in Powell Child Custody Case  http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-pdf-motion-for-temp-order-in-powell-child-custody-case-20110923,0,6304946.acrobat

PDF: Proposed Schedule in Powell Child Custody Case  http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-pdf-proposed-schedule-in-powell-child-custody-case-20110923,0,5303618.acrobat

PDF: Affidavit in Powell Child Custody Case  http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-pdf-affidavit-in-powell-child-custody-case-20110923,0,416209.acrobat


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 23, 2011, 04:02:17 PM
Please, please let this lead to Justice for Susan!!!  I want these two creeps to go down!!!!
::rhino::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 23, 2011, 04:54:13 PM
Please, please let this lead to Justice for Susan!!!  I want these two creeps to go down!!!!
::rhino::
Me too.  And I want Susan's parents to get the boys and they never have contact with the sperm donor or his perv daddy again.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 23, 2011, 04:59:39 PM
Just repeating what I said the other day........this case makes me ill.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 23, 2011, 05:12:30 PM
http://www.newser.com/article/d9puf1m81/missing-utah-moms-father-in-law-pleads-not-guilty-to-child-porn-voyeurism-charges.html

Missing Utah mom's father-in-law pleads not guilty to child porn, voyeurism charges

Quote
Wearing an orange jailhouse jumpsuit and with his hands cuffed, Steven Powell, 61, entered the pleas in court in Washington state, and the judge set bail at $200,000.

The judge at Powell's arraignment ordered him not to have contact with his grandsons.

A court commissioner said Friday that he will not decide on the custody of the sons until after the state's child welfare agency finishes its investigation. Another hearing is scheduled for Wednesday.
 

hmmm...does this mean that LE will have a chance to talk to the kids about the night that Susan disappeared or any trips they've made since then to 'look for rocks'?  I know the likelihood that they'll remember anything from that night is terribly remote, but maybe they can remember trips where daddy was dumping burned materials.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 23, 2011, 05:22:44 PM
Josh Powell, as of this date and time, has not been arrested or charged with any wrongdoing, not even related to his father's porn collection.

So, why were the children taken from him? Was it because by living with his father Josh possibly exposed them to harm? Is there proof that Josh was involved in any of the wrongdoing for which his father was arrested?

Does Susan's father know something WE don't?

Mr. Cox's reason for asking for custody is the subsequent arrest of Josh Powell for the disappearance/murder of Susan.

Is Josh's arrest imminent?

There has to be something, because all Josh has to say is that he didn't know about the porn his father kept, and it's not his. It was supposedly kept in Steve's bedroom, if the news going around are correct, not accessible to the boys.

So, there shouldn't be a reason why his children were taken away, unless it's to really investigate Josh and the children's family situation.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Buckeye on September 23, 2011, 05:35:54 PM
Not sure of all those questions...but..if I was going for custody I would emphasize that Josh has no employment or income to support the children.  Being able to provide food, shelter and clothing is essential for custody.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 06:12:36 PM
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Steven Powell also entered a not guilty plea to the charges. Next court date is Oct. 11. @fox13now #findsusan #SusanPowell #Utah
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Steven Powell was also ordered by judge to have no contact with "child victims." @fox13now #findsusan #SusanPowell #Utah
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: CarolF on September 23, 2011, 06:24:05 PM
MuffyBee do you know how old the boys are now?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on September 23, 2011, 06:24:37 PM
I'm hoping this arrogant SOB and predator snitches on his son.   I'm of the belief that Josh murdered Susan and had his dad help him dispose of her body and the ensuing cover up.  Steven Powell knows what happened to Susan Powell.  He won't want to go down alone, he'll bring Josh with him.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on September 23, 2011, 06:26:07 PM
I believe the boys are around 4 and 6 now.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: CarolF on September 23, 2011, 06:27:02 PM
I'm hoping this arrogant SOB and predator snitches on his son.   I'm of the belief that Josh murdered Susan and had his dad help him dispose of her body and the ensuing cover up.  Steven Powell knows what happened to Susan Powell.  He won't want to go down alone, he'll bring Josh with him.

I agree with you on that. Makes me so sad every time I see Susan's parents driving around town.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: CarolF on September 23, 2011, 06:27:57 PM
Thanks Klaas

I can hardly wait for the local news tonight. Hope they have more detail than hln.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 07:21:48 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/child-porn-charge-father-law-missing-mom-14587900
Missing Utah Mom's Father-in-Law Pleads Not Guilty
September 23, 2011

The father-in-law of a missing Utah woman pleaded not guilty on Friday after authorities accused him of possessing child pornography and videotaping her, other women and young girls without their knowledge.

Wearing an orange jailhouse jumpsuit and with his hands cuffed, Steven Powell, 61, entered the pleas in court in Washington state, and the judge set bail at $200,000.

Powell's arrest on Thursday at his home immediately set off another court battle, with Susan Powell's father asking another judge on Friday for custody of her two sons.

The boys, ages 4 and 6, had been living at their grandfather's home with their father, Josh Powell, the only named person of interest in her 2009 disappearance. No charges have been filed against him.

The judge at Powell's arraignment ordered him not to have contact with his grandsons. A lawyer for the state attorney general said earlier that the boys had been placed in foster care since the arrest.

After the hearing, Denise Cox, Susan Powell's older sister, said she was worried that Steven Powell would easily post bail. She said she believes that both son and father were involved in the disappearance.
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A court commissioner said Friday that he will not decide on the custody of the sons until after the state's child welfare agency finishes its investigation. Another hearing is scheduled for Wednesday.

"We're very concerned for the welfare of our grandchildren. We're doing everything we can," said Chuck Cox, Susan Powell's father, after the custody hearing.

The arrest — and the child custody motion — are the latest twists in a case that has perplexed Utah police, who are on their 12th day of searching a remote stretch of desert near where Josh Powell says he went camping the night his wife vanished.

Prosecutor Mark Lindquist in Washington state said Steven Powell is charged with 14 felony counts of voyeurism and one count of possession of child pornography.
 ::snipping2::
At Powell's arraignment, prosecutor Grant Blinn said detectives are still going through the seized items, but so far have found more than 1,000 video files. He said it appeared he had been secretly videotaping girls or women for at least 10 years.

The arrest prompted a Cox family lawyer to directly accuse Josh — for the first time publicly — of involvement in his wife's disappearance.

"The time has come where we have to stop playing cat and mouse games: Josh Powell had something to do with the disappearance of the mother of these children," attorney Steve Downing told the court commissioner on Friday.
Powell responded: "Everything they said is patently false. I am a good father to my sons."

Before the hearing, he sat in the back row of the small courtroom wearing a blue jacket, jeans, white sneakers with the treads worn off — and his wedding ring.

Powell flipped through a thick stack of legal documents and told an Associated Press reporter "no" when asked if he had anything to say about his dad's arrest. He ignored several other questions.
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In a statement issued late Wednesday, West Valley City, Utah police, who are investigating Susan Powell's disappearance, said Steven Powell's arrest was not related to the missing person case.

They have said Josh Powell has been uncooperative in their investigation.
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Also Friday, a Washington state judge issued a permanent injunction barring Josh Powell and his father from further publishing journal pages Susan Powell wrote as a teenager.
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 23, 2011, 09:23:51 PM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on September 24, 2011, 03:25:22 AM
PDF: Chuck Cox's petition for custody  http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-pdf-chuck-coxs-petition-for-custody-20110923,0,6614691.acrobat

PDF: Motion for Temp Order in Powell Child Custody Case  http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-pdf-motion-for-temp-order-in-powell-child-custody-case-20110923,0,6304946.acrobat

PDF: Proposed Schedule in Powell Child Custody Case  http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-pdf-proposed-schedule-in-powell-child-custody-case-20110923,0,5303618.acrobat

PDF: Affidavit in Powell Child Custody Case  http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-pdf-affidavit-in-powell-child-custody-case-20110923,0,416209.acrobat

After reading these documents I feel that an arrest of Josh is imminent, very soon.
Mr. Cox must have been told something about the wood chars found or something. It is near impossible just to "take" someone's child without valid proof.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 24, 2011, 08:14:27 AM
http://www.kctv5.com/story/15539066/children-of-missing-utah-moms-in-state-custody
Children of missing Utah mom's in state custody
Posted: Sep 24, 2011 2:46 AM CDT Updated: Sep 24, 2011 6:36 AM CDT
By GENE JOHNSON
Associated Press


TACOMA, Wash. (AP) - For now, the two young sons of a missing Utah woman are living with strangers.

They are in state custody as the paternal grandfather they lived with in Washington state sits in jail, accused of possessing child pornography and secretly videotaping their mother, other women and naked neighbor girls.

Now, the family of the boys' mother, Susan Powell, who has been missing since 2009, is for the first time publicly accusing their father of being involved in her disappearance. On Friday, they asked, for the first time, to get immediate custody of the boys, ages 4 and 6.

"The time has come where we have to stop playing cat and mouse games: Josh Powell had something to do with the disappearance," said Steve Downing, the family's lawyer, at a custody hearing Friday.

In response, Josh Powell said: "Everything they said is patently false. I am a good father to my sons."

A judge will decide custody after the child welfare agency has time to consider where the boys should be placed
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: 4 Donks on September 24, 2011, 09:40:48 AM
http://www.ksl.com/?sid=17374165&nid=148

Evidence against Steven Powell atypical among voyeurs

 ::snipping2::

The evidence seized in the case against Steven Powell goes beyond voyeurism because many of images involve pre-pubescent children in various stages of undress and while using the toilet.

"Most voyeurs have no interest in seeing this," he said.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: seahorse on September 24, 2011, 09:48:40 AM
Goodmorning Monkey's  ::HelloKitty::


http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/09/23/susan-powell-missing-perv-in-law-steven-powell-arrested-for-porn-and-voyerism/#comments

 ::MonkeyEek:: Dad was a busy perv.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: 4 Donks on September 24, 2011, 09:58:17 AM
http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-neighbors-react-to-arrest-of-steven-powell-20110923,0,7250377.story?track=rss

Neighbors react to arrest of Steven Powell
"I slept really well last night when I saw him arrested," said a neighbor


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This week, police went throughout the Puyallup neighborhood trying to identify the victims. Neighbors, such as Vicki Higginson, were especially concerned.

Higginson's daughter was warned her picture might be among the images police sorted through. “She was, of course, upset and crying but she`s a lot better now” said Higginson.

“It`s disgusting that this is happening, and I slept really well last night when I saw him arrested,” said Shaunee Wells, a neighbor.

“You still have kids around here and you don`t want those people here,” said Jason Wells, a neighbor.

Investigators said they believe Steven Powell shot some pictures from his upstairs window. Others were taken at playgrounds or parks, and many feature young children.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 24, 2011, 10:08:12 AM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 24, 2011, 10:12:36 AM
http://mynorthwest.com/11/550999/Steven-Powell-arrested-for-voyeurism-possession-of-child-porn
Steven Powell arrested for voyeurism, possession of child porn
September 23, 2011

(http://www.mynorthwest.com/emedia/apimage/f999e8da-cf8a-413f-a0f5-1f8f5711b810.jpg?filter=mynw/300wide)
Steven Powell, the father-in-law of missing Utah woman Susan Powell, appears in Pierce County courtroom, Friday, Sept. 23, 2011, in Tacoma, Wash. Powell, who was arrested Thursday, plead not guilty to charges of voyeurism and possession of child pornography. (AP Photo/Ted S. Warren)



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: 4 Donks on September 24, 2011, 10:25:16 AM
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/251839-powell-charging-documents.html

Charging docs.......pg 10 & 11 are explicit in what he photographed with the next

door children.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: akmom on September 24, 2011, 11:25:04 AM
While I am still thinking it is  possible Josh killed Susan, I had another thought.  I wonder if he drugged her, told his dad she was incapacitated and left with the boys so his dad could do whatever.....pieces of sh*(_&*^Y  both of them.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on September 24, 2011, 11:31:59 AM
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/251839-powell-charging-documents.html

Charging docs.......pg 10 & 11 are explicit in what he photographed with the next

door children.

thanks these documents are explicit in the details of the imgs,wonder if they have checked
the editor programs on the puter,and printer,ill bet if they keep digging,they will find the
imgs were cut and chopped and printed for sale

dam perves ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 24, 2011, 11:35:01 AM
I believe the boys are around 4 and 6 now.

 ::rhino::

Missing Utah Mom's Father-in-Law Pleads Not Guilty
TACOMA, Wash. September 23, 2011 (AP)


<snipped>

Powell's arrest on Thursday at his home immediately set off another court battle, with Susan Powell's father asking another judge on Friday for custody of her two sons.

The boys, ages 4 and 6, had been living at their grandfather's home with their father, Josh Powell, the only named person of interest in her 2009 disappearance. No charges have been filed against him.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/child-porn-charge-father-law-missing-mom-14587900


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 24, 2011, 11:43:38 AM
While I am still thinking it is  possible Josh killed Susan, I had another thought.  I wonder if he drugged her, told his dad she was incapacitated and left with the boys so his dad could do whatever.....pieces of sh*(_&*^Y  both of them.

akmom

How is that possible?  Steve lives in Washington.  Josh and Susan lived in Utah.

Has it been revealed that Steve was in Utah when Susan vanished?

Nevertheless ... I believe that Steve has knowledge of all the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Susan and ... that knowledge will be his "get of jail card".  It makes sense that Josh will be thrown under the bus by his sicko father.

IMO

Janet

 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on September 24, 2011, 11:44:57 AM
yea on second thought i wonder if SP,has one of those rented storage units
if there is 2k+ on that puter/s, sp prob has older puter/s stored away with
more imgs,i mean this is not a new thing to him


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 24, 2011, 12:12:32 PM
Thanks to all for the insights, updates and research.

Have a good Saturday.

Janet
9:10 AM PT


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
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Got a full schedule today, but checking in to say "Thank You God!" for Steve Powell's arrest and the Powell children's removal from that home. Just jumping in briefly to highlight two key things Josh said above (my bolds). Josh saying, "I did not kill my wife.", means nothing. Technically speaking, if he poisoned her or severely injured her (injuries resulting in death), he could say "I" did not kill my wife (the poison or injuries did). If Susan died from injuries sustained in self-defense, Josh could still claim that. Also, if Steven Powell killed Susan, Josh could still make that statement. It's interesting that he immediately followed that up with "I have never abused her."  The phrase "I have" is present tense. Since Susan has not been present in his life-the marriage for quite awhile now, the phrase should have been past tense "I did not abuse my wife." or "I never abused my wife."  He could, in fact, be speaking his version of truth depending upon his definition of the word "abuse". He may not have "abused" her, but he could have killed her.  If he thought she "deserved it" or "had asked for it" (by his standard of expected behavior), he could easily say he has never abused her.  He may also be saying he didn't abuse her, but someone else did (which means he has knowledge of it)...the sin of omission.  The alarming thing is, that he was obviously thinking of both Susan and abuse, when he made this statement.

He then makes a written declaration introducing the subject of suicide (Susan killing herself).  There's no logical reason for him to introduce Susan's death when he & Steve have been working overtime, fronting the story of Susan running away with another man.  Police searched abandoned mine shafts, found charred pieces of DNA-scented wood in one of Josh's stomping grounds, Daddy Powell got busted for child porn and voyeurism...and suddenly, Josh is publicly suggesting that Susan *might* be dead (but by her own hand, of course). A coincidence?  NOT! It will be interesting to see what kind of story Josh is going to try to weave.  His story has to constantly course-correct to encompass the evidence that LE has and will continue to amass.  He's going to have to do some mighty fancy footwork-bobbing, weaving, and dodging charges.  Josh isn't that light on his feet and neither is Steven.  Josh has ost the children, so he may as well just confess what he knows. Daddy can't protect him; he'll be too busy trying to save himself. Somehow, Josh is going to have to explain away what LE is sure to find.  The pressure is on. This "new development" has God written all over it. I love it!   All My own opinion.  Have a great weekend everybody!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 24, 2011, 01:58:01 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/susan-powells-sons-foster-care-steven-powells-arraignment/story?id=14595056
Child Porn Charges Prove Missing Mom's Father-in-Law a Liar, Her Dad Says
September 24, 2011

Missing Utah mother Susan Powell's father Chuck Cox said the child pornography charges filed against her father-in-law make it clear that Steven Powell's claims that the young woman was "very sexual" with him were lies.

"I do think it vindicates my daughter, and what we've said about her and it clearly shows that he had motive to detract from her reputation," Cox said today on "Good Morning America."
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Cox's statements today come as it was announced that Susan Powell's two sons are in foster care this morning after their grandfather, Steven Powell, was arraigned Friday on child pornography charges. He entered a plea of not guilty.

Josh Powell and the couple's two children had been living with Steven Powell for several months.

"I am hoping they will keep my nephews out of that house," Susan Powell's sister, Denise Cox, said Friday outside the arraignment hearing.

Steven Powell, 61, is charged with using a telephoto lens to take photos of two girls, age 8 and 10, in the bathroom of a neighboring house.

The photos are among thousands he is accused of secretly taking, including shots of women's buttocks and breasts, that police found in his home, according to the charges filed against him.

Powell, who arrived in court in an orange jumpsuit for his first appearance before a judge, is being held on $200,000 bail.
Susan Powellwas among the females photographed, prosecutors said.
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Powell was arrested Thursday night by Pierce County sheriff's officers on 14 counts of voyeurism and one count of possessing child pornography after police raided his home in August and found thousands of images and videos of women and girls.

Prosecutors told a judge Friday that the charges represent just the beginning of what was found in the files taken from the home, and that Powell had been taking photos and videos for at least 10 years.
 ::snipping2::
Another hearing on the custody of the Powell boys is scheduled for Wednesday.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: akmom on September 24, 2011, 05:18:06 PM
Janet, somehow I spaced the fact of the distance, etc, from perv to Susan and Josh's home.  On the other hand, I'd sure like to know if there is any proof as to where that creep was during that time period. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 24, 2011, 10:45:35 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391412/Chuck-Cox-says-he-feels-vindicated.html
Chuck Cox says he feels vindicated
September 24, 2011

PUYALLUP, Wash. — Chuck Cox believes a conclusion to the mystery surrounding his daughter's disappearance is coming, including an arrest and the discovery of his daughter.

"I think it's coming close, it feels like it's coming close," Cox said Saturday outside his home in Puyallup, Wash.

He also believes that the downfall of Steven Powell, Susan Cox Powell's father-in-law, was brought upon by himself after he talked about an alleged attraction between himself and Powell and because of his efforts to release her childhood diary.
"It was a big mistake on his part, he should have never gone there. And the journals turned out to be his downfall. Because of the journals, they were able to do the warrant on his house, and I consider that really good police work," Chuck Cox said.
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Friday, Steven Powell made his first appearance in court after being arrested on multiple counts of voyeurism and child porn charges.

That hearing was one of three in Pierce County Superior Court Friday involving Powell, his son, Josh Powell, and Cox.

A judge also ruled Friday that the Powells cannot release Susan Cox Powell's childhood diaries to the public. A third hearing was held for a petition filed by Chuck and Judy Cox for custody of their grandsons, Josh and Susan's two children.

Also Friday, a week-and-a-half search in the central west desert of Utah for clues into Susan's disappearance came to a close.

Steven Powell remained in the Pierce County Jail Saturday on $200,000 cash only bail. If he posts bail, he won't have a job to go back to. Powell has been fired by the Washington Department of Corrections. He was employed as a delivery driver who took furniture made by inmates to local schools.

Saturday, Chuck Cox said he felt vindicated by Powell's arrest.

"With his arrest and the the things that have now come out, I feel definitely vindicated. And his attacking my daughter's character, we now see clearly in context why he was doing that, at least I do" he said.
 ::snipping2::
In the Powells' neighborhood Saturday, Josh Powell declined to speak to reporters. Some of his neighbors, however, said in light of Steven Powell's arrest, they weren't excited for him to return to the area.

"Yeah, it's disturbing. He has an issue he needs to deal with it. Hopefully he gets the help he needs. But I really don't want him living here, hate to say that," said neighbor Brian Akare.

There are several court hearings scheduled in October concerning Steven Powell's criminal case and the custody of Susan Powell's children. Steven Powell is due back in court Oct. 11.

Cox and Josh Powell will be back in court next week for the custody proceedings.




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 24, 2011, 11:53:00 PM
A big thank you to MuffyB for all the updates   :salut: :salut:
I would never know anything about this or the other cases without other  great monkeys doing the leg work..thanks so much


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 25, 2011, 12:37:04 AM
A big thank you to MuffyB for all the updates   :salut: :salut:
I would never know anything about this or the other cases without other  great monkeys doing the leg work..thanks so much

You're welcome mizjay.   ::bee:: 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: TnMuse on September 25, 2011, 01:54:13 AM
Janet, somehow I spaced the fact of the distance, etc, from perv to Susan and Josh's home.  On the other hand, I'd sure like to know if there is any proof as to where that creep was during that time period. 

I do hope that LE has checked out this guy's whereabouts when Susan went missing.  On top of being a perv, he truly was obsessed with Susan.  I also hope that they have throughly checked out the home and any other place that the perv had access to.  In his songs to her, and in his rambling theory to the FBI he brings up stuff that makes you go  ::MonkeyEek::

http://susanpowell.org/Content/Download/2010-03-01-Steven-Koecher-Susan-Powell-brainstorm-by-Steve-Powell.pdf

His words:

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"It is also possible that Susan was alone for several days. She could have stayed in a motel or a vacant home. For years, Josh and Susan carried keys to HUD foreclosure homes because both were involved in real estate sales. Susan’s HUD key may have allowed her access to hundreds of vacant homes throughout Utah with no electronic record of who was entering those homes."
snip
"The Elizabeth Smart case is a disturbing example of a recent missing person going unnoticed in very public places in Utah."
snip


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 25, 2011, 07:36:36 AM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/state/story/Friend-says-Susan-Powell-confided-in-her-about/DLf2CoS8-kuX5aJcqVD2nA.cspx
Friend says Susan Powell confided in her about Steve Powell's alleged sexual advances
September 24, 2011

SALT LAKE CITY, Utah (ABC 4 News) - A friend who last saw Susan Powell alive is coming forward with insight into the missing woman's complaints about Steve Powell's alleged advances towards her.
In the past Steve Powell has called Susan a "sexually aggressive woman," and has even said that she flirted with him. JoVonna Owings, one of Susan's closest friends says that the situation was quite the opposite; that Steve Powell tried to romantically pursue Susan while she was married to his son, Josh Powell.
 ::snipping2::
Susan once told Owings that she moved to Utah to get away from her father-in-law.  Owings is relieved to see that more light is being shed on Steve Powell's past. "The karma train is coming around and I think it's pulling into the station.  Whatever it is, something is going to change."


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 25, 2011, 12:56:56 PM

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/komo/article/Police-More-persons-of-interest-possible-in-2186672.php
Police: More persons of interest possible in Susan Powell case
September 23, 2011

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah -- As investigators wrapped up a search of the Utah desert for missing mom Susan Powell on Friday, officials revealed for the first time that her husband Josh Powell may not the only person of interest in the case.

Sgt. Mike Powell of the West Valley City, Utah, police told KOMO Newsradio in an interview Friday that Josh Powell is the only person of interest who has been publicly named, but there may be others.

There are currently no other known persons of interest in the case, Powell said, but investigators have not ruled out the possibility as the investigation is still ongoing. (Listen to the interview) Link in article.

"The West Valley City Police Department has never indicated that Josh Powell is the only person of interest. We have always said he is a person of interest," Powell said. "Really, anybody that may have any involvement at any point in this investigation will be considered a person of  interest."


The development came as investigators wrapped up a 12-day search of the Utah desert near Topaz Mountain on Friday, collecting numerous items that could possibly be connected to the disappearance of Susan Powell two years ago.
 ::snipping2::



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Blonde on September 25, 2011, 03:20:02 PM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: TnMuse on September 25, 2011, 09:14:20 PM
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HELP ME, JOSE!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cookie on September 25, 2011, 09:20:54 PM
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Susan%20Cox%20Powell%20%20-UT-/92311pervypowell.jpg)

HELP ME, JOSE!

Lol


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 25, 2011, 09:41:05 PM
I think its interesting that Josh tried to bring the idea of suicide into this and now we learn that LE found photos of Susan on Prev Daddy's computer.  Could JP been drugging Susan to take photos of her to share with his father?

Also, LE indicated that they've found evidence that SP has been doing this for 10 years.  No way did he just suddenly start doing this.  What was he doing 10 years ago?  Does he have a stash of photos hidden somewhere?  LE needs to investigate this guy's life.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 26, 2011, 08:50:06 AM
I think its interesting that Josh tried to bring the idea of suicide into this and now we learn that LE found photos of Susan on Prev Daddy's computer.  Could JP been drugging Susan to take photos of her to share with his father?

Also, LE indicated that they've found evidence that SP has been doing this for 10 years.  No way did he just suddenly start doing this.  What was he doing 10 years ago?  Does he have a stash of photos hidden somewhere?  LE needs to investigate this guy's life.

ITA.  Steve Powell didn't turn into the perv he is overnight.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 26, 2011, 08:51:48 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/BenWinslow (http://twitter.com/#!/BenWinslow)

BenWinslow Ben Winslow
RT @fox13now: Custody hearing for #SusanPowell's children scheduled for Wednesday bit.ly/qJyHYC (http://bit.ly/qJyHYC) #GDU #findsusan
4 minutes ago



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cadillac on September 26, 2011, 08:53:06 AM
Maybe the perv needs to hire Bi-Azz as his attorney. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 26, 2011, 09:01:37 AM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700182405/Charred-wood-recovered-in-Susan-Powell-search-could-produce-clues-expert-says.html
Charred wood recovered in Susan Powell search could produce clues, expert says
September 25, 2011

(http://static.deseretnews.com/images/article/sidebar/606516/Charred-wood-was-found-during-a-recent-search-near.jpg)
Pat Reavy, Deseret News
Charred wood was found during a recent search near Topaz Mounain in the Susan Cox Powell investigation

 ::snipping2::
About 100 charred pieces of wood was taken from what was initially described as a shallow grave that had been disturbed. The material was discovered as investigators were searching the desert area for clues in the disappearance of missing West Valley mother Susan Cox Powell.

But is the material really evidence? And what can be gleaned from them?
A South Salt Lake-based forensics expert says plenty.

"If the wood is only partially burned, for instance — or didn't burn that long or wasn't that hot — and it was in direct contact with biological materials, then it is possible to get a DNA profile from that," Tim Kupferschmid, executive director of Sorenson Forensics, said Thursday.

West Valley police have said they believe the pieces of wood may have been used to burn human remains, though it is unclear whose remains they might be. Three different sets of trained cadaver dogs independently indicated last week that they detected human decomposition on the pieces, investigators said.

Kupferschmid said there is a concern about how much the DNA has degraded, but it will not result in misidentification.

"No chance in the process does the DNA degrade and turn into someone else's DNA," Kupferschmid said. "It's either going to be a match or you're going to get no results or inconclusive results."

The process, he said, is really no different than any other DNA sampling — though trying to extract a DNA sample from a charred piece of wood in itself is a rare event. Technicians still follow the same basic steps of extracting the sample, determining how much is there, copying and growing the sample, and then detecting it. "It's completely reliable," Kupferschmid said.

Similar scenarios with charred remains, he said, come into play occasionally in airplane crashes and car accidents.

Another thing experts can determine from charred wood is whether an accelerant was used.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 26, 2011, 09:35:26 AM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/local/kstu-susan-powell-custody-hearing-for-susan-powells-children-scheduled-for-wednesday-20110926,0,4264428.story
Custody hearing for Powell children scheduled for Wednesday
Tamara Vaifanua, Anchor/Reporter Fox 13 News
7:08 a.m. MDT, September 26, 2011
PUYALLUP, Washington—


The parents of missing West Valley City mother Susan Cox Powell are trying to get custody of her children. A hearing in the case is scheduled for Wednesday in Washington State.

The two sons of Josh and Susan Cox Powell were removed from their grandfather's home in Puyallup, Wash. after police arrested Steven Powell for voyeurism and child pornography. Child Protective Services are caring for the grandchildren, who were living at the home with Steven and Josh.

Steven Powell is now in the Pierce County Jail. Charging documents say Powell used a telephoto lens to videotape and photograph young girls and women at area parks and even in his own neighborhood.

Police say they have thousands of disturbing images including pictures of Susan Cox Powell, after seizing computers from Powell's home on August 25. Police say, through his bedroom window, he photographed his neighbors' two little girls.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 26, 2011, 09:44:44 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/
Search for Susan Powell: Father-In-Law in Custody
Steven Powell has been arrested on charges including child pornography.
9/26/2011

Video at link.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 26, 2011, 01:02:18 PM
Around ScaredMonkeys Salt Lake Tribune is a four letter word, and one of those sites banned because of the copyright stuff. So, I won't link to it or copy/paste text from there.

But, I gotta mention that yesterday and today they have published news which are worth mentioning.

Again, I know people at ScaredMonkeys have not been interested in Sandy C. Anderson, but I believe that she is the ONE who has gotten this case rolling, since the authorities contacted her July 20th of this year.

The interview goes back over the same things which I copied from The Examiner two or three days ago, which everyone (except for one person) ignored and didn't care about... but goes a bit farther to explain dates, which I think it's important.

Sandy is not an "ex", but I believe her to be a friend of Steve Powell. They, over the years, kept in touch, visiting and inviting each other to parties. They had stopped their contact when Sandy got married and moved away.

Sandy recalls a visit that Steve made her three years later, in April 2010, when he told her about the porn cabinet, etc...

I cannot provide links, because of the banning of that website, but people can check it out at their usual link, for the Salt Lake Tribune, check their Susan Powell section, and check this stuff.

I looked in other news websites, but all talking about Sandy link back to The Tribune.

Arg!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 26, 2011, 01:39:34 PM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20531765,00.html

Susan Powell's Father-in-Law Was Obsessed With Her, Says Friend

 ::snipping2::


Sandy Crain Anderson says Steven Powell, who was arrested last week on child-pornography charges, became infatuated with Susan shortly after his son married her in 2001 and would often speak
Anderson says Powell continued to tell her about his attraction to Susan into 2009. After her disappearance in late 2009, he then told Anderson that he thought his daughter-in-law had run off with another man, she says.

Still, Anderson went to the police at the time. "I realized I at least owed a call to the police to say I was friends with this person who’d been obsessed all these years with Susan," she says.

 ::snipping2::

IMOOSE..I agree..I wish that LE had paid more attention to what Sandy told them back in 2009 and 2010..it took them a while to get to this point.  Had they issued the search warrant at his place back then he would have been in jail all this time..and maybe have ratted out Josh..


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 26, 2011, 02:55:40 PM
I will paraphrase some of the interview. My comments in blue.

Sandy and Steve had met in 1998 in a church symposium in Seattle.

The reason she called police in January 2010 is that she had just learned of Susan's disappearance, and wanted to tell police that she was friends of Steve and that he had been having an obsession with Susan for years.

After that she spoke to him in April 2010, when Steve asked Sandy to get on the net and give a good word for him and Josh, she refused.

In September 2010, he showed up at her home, and tried to convince Sandy that Susan had a terrible upbringing, and that she ran away with Steven Koecher because she's a bad woman, and "irrational."

Steve drew time lines and maps showing the routes Koecher may have taken through Nevada and Utah.

How would HE know? Did this route include Ely?

Steve said the things linking Koecher and Susan are: (1) they are both Mormons and (2) they worked in the same geographical areas.

Did anyone ever see the two together? Is there any emails? Phone calls?

The next day, Sandy called police AGAIN. She told them of the conversation she had with Steve, and faxed them three pages Steve Powell left with her, that included the map he drew of Koecher’s supposed routes.

On July 18, finally the police investigator called and asked about the conversation, and asked to resend the stuff she had faxed in September. The police had "lost" the documents. Sandy did on July 20.

Sandy did an interview for The Examiner in August 21st, Steve Powell's residence was searched August 25.

The Tribune says that Mr. Cox said Saturday that an online article about Anderson clued the police about things that Steve still had.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 26, 2011, 05:12:06 PM
I will paraphrase some of the interview. My comments in blue.

Sandy and Steve had met in 1998 in a church symposium in Seattle.

The reason she called police in January 2010 is that she had just learned of Susan's disappearance, and wanted to tell police that she was friends of Steve and that he had been having an obsession with Susan for years.

After that she spoke to him in April 2010, when Steve asked Sandy to get on the net and give a good word for him and Josh, she refused.

In September 2010, he showed up at her home, and tried to convince Sandy that Susan had a terrible upbringing, and that she ran away with Steven Koecher because she's a bad woman, and "irrational."

Steve drew time lines and maps showing the routes Koecher may have taken through Nevada and Utah.

How would HE know? Did this route include Ely?

Steve said the things linking Koecher and Susan are: (1) they are both Mormons and (2) they worked in the same geographical areas.

Did anyone ever see the two together? Is there any emails? Phone calls?

The next day, Sandy called police AGAIN. She told them of the conversation she had with Steve, and faxed them three pages Steve Powell left with her, that included the map he drew of Koecher’s supposed routes.

On July 18, finally the police investigator called and asked about the conversation, and asked to resend the stuff she had faxed in September. The police had "lost" the documents. Sandy did on July 20.

Sandy did an interview for The Examiner in August 21st, Steve Powell's residence was searched August 25.

The Tribune says that Mr. Cox said Saturday that an online article about Anderson clued the police about things that Steve still had.



Interesting article..I went and read it at the source and it really makes you wonder why LE didn't pay more attention to Sandy back in 2010.  I am glad that they are now..and I am glad she was able to supply them with the info they needed to arrest perv granddaddy.  I am wondering if those maps were to throw off LE or if they were fairly accurate..so that if her body was found they could blame it on KOECHER?

I still find Kosh's remarks about taking the boys camping and roasting Smores to be gross and sick..now that we know that the dogs hit on the burned wood..did he really think that people would believe that he was roasting marshmellows..when infact it appears he may have been burning his wife's body?  Just such a ghoulish thing to say.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 26, 2011, 05:13:48 PM
oops..I meant Josh's remarks..not Kosh's...sorry typo


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on September 26, 2011, 06:16:22 PM
FWIW - Now that it looks like Righthaven is getting itself into trouble, I think it's safe to post SNIPPED articles from the Salt Lake Tribune here at SM.  As long as the article is SNIPPED you can post the **** link and if anyone wants to read the entire thing they can figure out how to find the website.

By the way, what I do when I check for recent news in this case is I Google Salt Lake City Utah News and that will bring up news websites (including the Tribune).  For this case I also check Tacoma Washington News since the Cox and Powell family live in that vicinity.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 26, 2011, 10:14:25 PM
I will paraphrase some of the interview. My comments in blue.

Sandy and Steve had met in 1998 in a church symposium in Seattle.

The reason she called police in January 2010 is that she had just learned of Susan's disappearance, and wanted to tell police that she was friends of Steve and that he had been having an obsession with Susan for years.

After that she spoke to him in April 2010, when Steve asked Sandy to get on the net and give a good word for him and Josh, she refused.

In September 2010, he showed up at her home, and tried to convince Sandy that Susan had a terrible upbringing, and that she ran away with Steven Koecher because she's a bad woman, and "irrational."

Steve drew time lines and maps showing the routes Koecher may have taken through Nevada and Utah.

How would HE know? Did this route include Ely?

Steve said the things linking Koecher and Susan are: (1) they are both Mormons and (2) they worked in the same geographical areas.

Did anyone ever see the two together? Is there any emails? Phone calls?

The next day, Sandy called police AGAIN. She told them of the conversation she had with Steve, and faxed them three pages Steve Powell left with her, that included the map he drew of Koecher’s supposed routes.

On July 18, finally the police investigator called and asked about the conversation, and asked to resend the stuff she had faxed in September. The police had "lost" the documents. Sandy did on July 20.

Sandy did an interview for The Examiner in August 21st, Steve Powell's residence was searched August 25.

The Tribune says that Mr. Cox said Saturday that an online article about Anderson clued the police about things that Steve still had.


yikes..I didn't realize that the talk of Koecher running off with Susan was coming directly from the Powell camp. And the maps?  It's really beginning to look seriously like the Powell's may have had something to do with his disappearance. Wonder what makes psycho's tick? they could have left things alone and probably not gotten caught but they had to start on the journals and the sexual weirdo interviews. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 27, 2011, 12:53:03 AM
FWIW - Now that it looks like Righthaven is getting itself into trouble, I think it's safe to post SNIPPED articles from the Salt Lake Tribune here at SM.  As long as the article is SNIPPED you can post the **** link and if anyone wants to read the entire thing they can figure out how to find the website.

By the way, what I do when I check for recent news in this case is I Google Salt Lake City Utah News and that will bring up news websites (including the Tribune).  For this case I also check Tacoma Washington News since the Cox and Powell family live in that vicinity.


Thanks, Klaas.

I had looked for news also in Washington, and a few news channels carried the story, but they posted an excerpt and then linked to The Tribune.

By **** you mean to put the link of the website's front page? Or, did it **** because it had the link?




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 27, 2011, 12:56:06 AM
Sheriff's office behind removal of children from Powell home

Quote
in this case it was the sheriff's office that made the determination to remove the children, said Sherry Hill, communications director for the Washington Department of Social and Health Services' Children's Administration.

"They determined there may be some sort of harm to the children or they may need to be protected in some way. They chose to put the children in protective custody," she said without going into detail.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=1070&sid=17402647



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 27, 2011, 07:58:42 AM
FWIW - Now that it looks like Righthaven is getting itself into trouble, I think it's safe to post SNIPPED articles from the Salt Lake Tribune here at SM.  As long as the article is SNIPPED you can post the **** link and if anyone wants to read the entire thing they can figure out how to find the website.

By the way, what I do when I check for recent news in this case is I Google Salt Lake City Utah News and that will bring up news websites (including the Tribune).  For this case I also check Tacoma Washington News since the Cox and Powell family live in that vicinity.


Thanks, Klaas.

I had looked for news also in Washington, and a few news channels carried the story, but they posted an excerpt and then linked to The Tribune.

By **** you mean to put the link of the website's front page? Or, did it **** because it had the link?




Moosee, I'm not Klaas of course, but to answer your question, if you post the link along with the article as you would normally do with any article you post here, the *** show up automatically because Klaas has put in a filter for those that are part of Righthaven. Just be sure to snip the post as you would any article too.  MuffyBee


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 27, 2011, 08:06:46 AM
http://**/sltrib/news/52643248-78/powell-susan-troyer-county.html.csp
Police continue investigating images seized from home of Steve Powell
September 26, 2011

Puyallup, Wash. • Investigators continue to sift through thousands of photographic images seized from the home of missing Utah woman’s father-in-law and a sheriff’s spokesman said Monday that more charges are possible.

Ed Troyer, spokesman for the Pierce County Sheriff’s Department, said one focus is whether anyone else who lived in Steve Powell’s home in the Country Hollow subdivision "knew about or looked at those photos."

"We haven’t ruled anybody else in or out," Troyer said.

Investigators also are reviewing whether any lewd images were emailed from computers taken from Powell’s home, which could bring additional charges, such as trafficking.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Kimmy53 on September 27, 2011, 11:08:48 AM
http://**/sltrib/news/52643248-78/powell-susan-troyer-county.html.csp
Police continue investigating images seized from home of Steve Powell
September 26, 2011

Puyallup, Wash. • Investigators continue to sift through thousands of photographic images seized from the home of missing Utah woman’s father-in-law and a sheriff’s spokesman said Monday that more charges are possible.

Ed Troyer, spokesman for the Pierce County Sheriff’s Department, said one focus is whether anyone else who lived in Steve Powell’s home in the Country Hollow subdivision "knew about or looked at those photos."

"We haven’t ruled anybody else in or out," Troyer said.

Investigators also are reviewing whether any lewd images were emailed from computers taken from Powell’s home, which could bring additional charges, such as trafficking.

 ::snipping2::


Very interesting.  I bet they may be able to put a little pressure on Joshy - They should be able to question him about this.  Maybe apply the screws tighter and tighter until he pops. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on September 27, 2011, 11:11:37 AM
If I am not mistaken, the hearing for custody of the Powell children is on Wed. 1 more day until
these deserving children get stability in a normal home. They are in my prayers.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 27, 2011, 01:41:59 PM
I really hope that Josh or Steven have slipped up in some way.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 27, 2011, 02:30:44 PM
http://**/sltrib/news/52643248-78/powell-susan-troyer-county.html.csp
Police continue investigating images seized from home of Steve Powell
September 26, 2011

Puyallup, Wash. • Investigators continue to sift through thousands of photographic images seized from the home of missing Utah woman’s father-in-law and a sheriff’s spokesman said Monday that more charges are possible.

Ed Troyer, spokesman for the Pierce County Sheriff’s Department, said one focus is whether anyone else who lived in Steve Powell’s home in the Country Hollow subdivision "knew about or looked at those photos."

"We haven’t ruled anybody else in or out," Troyer said.

Investigators also are reviewing whether any lewd images were emailed from computers taken from Powell’s home, which could bring additional charges, such as trafficking.

 ::snipping2::


Very interesting.  I bet they may be able to put a little pressure on Joshy - They should be able to question him about this.  Maybe apply the screws tighter and tighter until he pops. 

They ought to pressure the 2 other Powell siblings that also lived in the home with daddy pev. It's my understanding from the articles that I've read that Josh's sister and brother also lived there. With the amount of pics that SP took of neighborhood children it seems like the others living there would have seen his super duper telephoto lens. He seems like the type that wouldn't necessarily do it all in secret, hiding the equipment nor keeping the whole shebang to himself. A whole house full of Powells ought to spit out something incriminating.  all my own opinion


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 27, 2011, 02:41:35 PM
Is there a reason that BOTH of Susan Powell's parents are not seeking custody ... only Chuck Cox?

Janet
____

Susan Powell's father, husband battle for custody of kids in court
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 11:15 AM
Updated today at 11:22 AM


TACOMA, Wash. -- The husband and father of missing Utah mom Susan Powell appeared in Pierce County family court Tuesday in the custody battle of Susan's two young sons.

The lawyer for Susan Powell's father, Chuck Cox, filed a court motion last week asking that custody for the boys be granted to their maternal grandfather after the boys' paternal grandfather, Steven Powell, was arrested on charges of voyeurism and possession of child pornography.

<snipped>

http://www.king5.com/news/local/Susan-Powells-father-husband-in-court-over-custody-of-kids-130647888.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 27, 2011, 04:56:33 PM
Mods..could you please remove my post to MizJay..I see that Josh does indeed have two siblings that were living at the home when LE cam the other day..Jennifer Graves is his married sister who lives in Utah and always takes up for Susan..but there were two other siblings in the home that day..

DONE - HOPE I REMOVED THE RIGHT ONE  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 27, 2011, 05:04:59 PM
Josh Powell says he is a good father, pleads for custody of children
First published 3 hours ago
Updated 1 minute ago Updated Sep 27, 2011 02:50PM


Tacoma, Wash. • The husband of Susan Cox Powell told a judge here Tuesday he had nothing to do with his wife’s disappearance and pleaded for custody of the couple’s 4 and 6-year-old sons.

The boys were taken into foster care last week following the voyeurism and child pornography arrest of their grandfather, Steve Powell. The children have been living in Steve Powell’s Puyallup, Wash. home with their father since last year

<snipped>

Representing himself before Judge Katherine J. Nelson, Josh Powell said he and his siblings had no knowledge of any wrongdoing on his father’s part. If his father is released on bail, Josh Powell said he will move himself and his children out of the Puyallup home.

<snipped>

Describing himself as a good father and his sons as happy, healthy and well-adjusted, Josh Powell said his oldest son cried and asked him when he could come home during a supervised Monday visit. He urged the judge to meet with his sons and said he was prepared to do parenting classes, counseling, or whatever is necessary in her view.

<snipped>

The hearing was scheduled to resume Wednesday. Attorneys representing the state in the case have given the Coxes technical, but not physical, custody of the boys so that Nelson can retain jurisdiction to hear the case without a separate shelter hearing as required by law within 72 hours of a child’s removal.

<snipped>

http://**/sltrib/news/52646871-78/powell-susan-josh-custody.html.csp
 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 27, 2011, 05:12:52 PM

Moosee, I'm not Klaas of course, but to answer your question, if you post the link along with the article as you would normally do with any article you post here, the *** show up automatically because Klaas has put in a filter for those that are part of Righthaven. Just be sure to snip the post as you would any article too.  MuffyBee


OK?

Yes Janet - the way you did it is fine  ::MonkeyCool::



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cadillac on September 27, 2011, 05:15:33 PM
Did I read he is a "good" father?  He obviuosly has no concept of what a "good" father should be.  He knows his Dad is hinky - and he chooses to live there.  He takes his children out in the middle of the night - to "camp".  Give him a longer rope, I say.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on September 27, 2011, 06:30:57 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391508/Josh-Powell-also-subject-of-porn-investigation-prosecutor-says.html (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391508/Josh-Powell-also-subject-of-porn-investigation-prosecutor-says.html)

Josh Powell also subject of porn investigation, prosecutor says
Judge to decide Wednesday who gets custody of 2 boys
Published: Tuesday, Sept. 27, 2011 3:17 p.m. MDT

By Gene Johnson, Associated Press

TACOMA, Wash. — The husband of missing West Valley mother Susan Cox Powell is also the subject of a pornography and voyeurism investigation in Washington, a state assistant attorney said Tuesday in Pierce County Superior Court.

Josh Powell denied the accusation that came during a hearing to determine who will take custody of his children.

"I have had nothing to do with any kind of illegal pornography," he said.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 27, 2011, 06:36:13 PM
Mods..could you please remove my post to MizJay..I see that Josh does indeed have two siblings that were living at the home when LE cam the other day..Jennifer Graves is his married sister who lives in Utah and always takes up for Susan..but there were two other siblings in the home that day..

DONE - HOPE I REMOVED THE RIGHT ONE  ::MonkeyCool::


Yes you did ..thank you Klaas


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 27, 2011, 06:37:27 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391508/Josh-Powell-also-subject-of-porn-investigation-prosecutor-says.html (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391508/Josh-Powell-also-subject-of-porn-investigation-prosecutor-says.html)

Josh Powell also subject of porn investigation, prosecutor says
Judge to decide Wednesday who gets custody of 2 boys
Published: Tuesday, Sept. 27, 2011 3:17 p.m. MDT

By Gene Johnson, Associated Press

TACOMA, Wash. — The husband of missing West Valley mother Susan Cox Powell is also the subject of a pornography and voyeurism investigation in Washington, a state assistant attorney said Tuesday in Pierce County Superior Court.

Josh Powell denied the accusation that came during a hearing to determine who will take custody of his children.

"I have had nothing to do with any kind of illegal pornography," he said.
 ::snipping2::


 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 27, 2011, 06:37:47 PM
Reading the last news on the custody hearing, I can't help to think that there is NO legal reason why the children's custody should be taken from Josh.

You and I  know that he's up to his neck in wrongdoing, but there hasn't been any shred of evidence that he was involved in anything that would place the kids in danger, or in the murder of the kids' mother.

He swears he didn't know of the porn and items his father had, and what his father was doing with his camera.

He swears he will move if his father makes bail.

He swears he's a good father, and that the children are thriving.

So, why would the judge take the kids from him?

Will we get to know of certain evidence that made the Coxes file for custody in the grounds of an impending arrest on Josh relating to Susan's disappearance?



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 27, 2011, 06:39:49 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391508/Josh-Powell-also-subject-of-porn-investigation-prosecutor-says.html (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391508/Josh-Powell-also-subject-of-porn-investigation-prosecutor-says.html)

Josh Powell also subject of porn investigation, prosecutor says
Judge to decide Wednesday who gets custody of 2 boys
Published: Tuesday, Sept. 27, 2011 3:17 p.m. MDT

By Gene Johnson, Associated Press

TACOMA, Wash. — The husband of missing West Valley mother Susan Cox Powell is also the subject of a pornography and voyeurism investigation in Washington, a state assistant attorney said Tuesday in Pierce County Superior Court.

Josh Powell denied the accusation that came during a hearing to determine who will take custody of his children.

"I have had nothing to do with any kind of illegal pornography," he said.
 ::snipping2::


What else is he going to say..yeah..I did enjoy Dad's porn collection and helped on his little projects....

Hard to believe that Josh and his brother Michael and sister Alina didn't know about Dad's hobby....3 adult children living in the home with him and they were all in the dark about his camera activities and advances on Susan..sure they were...alrighty then.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on September 27, 2011, 06:40:14 PM
Reading the last news on the custody hearing, I can't help to think that there is NO legal reason why the children's custody should be taken from Josh.

You and I  know that he's up to his neck in wrongdoing, but there hasn't been any shred of evidence that he was involved in anything that would place the kids in danger, or in the murder of the kids' mother.

He swears he didn't know of the porn and items his father had, and what his father was doing with his camera.

He swears he will move if his father makes bail.

He swears he's a good father, and that the children are thriving.

So, why would the judge take the kids from him?

Will we get to know of certain evidence that made the Coxes file for custody in the grounds of an impending arrest on Josh relating to Susan's disappearance?



He is part of the same illegal porn investigation his father is being held on, that in itself is enough reason.  Not to mention endangering the life of a 2 and 4yr old by going "camping" in the middle of the night the day/night that Susan went missing (was murdered IMO).


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 27, 2011, 06:43:36 PM
Reading the last news on the custody hearing, I can't help to think that there is NO legal reason why the children's custody should be taken from Josh.

You and I  know that he's up to his neck in wrongdoing, but there hasn't been any shred of evidence that he was involved in anything that would place the kids in danger, or in the murder of the kids' mother.

He swears he didn't know of the porn and items his father had, and what his father was doing with his camera.

He swears he will move if his father makes bail.

He swears he's a good father, and that the children are thriving.

So, why would the judge take the kids from him?

Will we get to know of certain evidence that made the Coxes file for custody in the grounds of an impending arrest on Josh relating to Susan's disappearance?



I would think that as long as the State or prosecutors say that Josh is also being investigated about the porn collection and camera use in the home that the children might be given in custody to the Cox family until this investigation is complete...and sure he can appeal that decision..but hopefully he is arrested before long and no appeal will be needed.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 27, 2011, 06:50:44 PM
I know Josh's Dad lives in Washington and at the time of her murder Susan and Josh lived in Utah...but I am really beginning to believe that both Josh and his Dad planned her murder and coverup.  I think Josh got wind of the idea she was getting ready to leave and take the kids and his Dad and he just couldn't have that.  Once out from under their thumb she could have talked openly about the sexual harrassment etc..and then their little camera and porn hobby would have been exposed.  The most dangerous time for an abused woman is when she is getting ready to run...and I really believe that is what happened here.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on September 27, 2011, 07:03:52 PM
Very possible Gypsy.

In the very least, I believe Steven Powell helped Josh with the coverup.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 27, 2011, 07:23:38 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391508/Josh-Powell-also-subject-of-porn-investigation-prosecutor-says.html (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391508/Josh-Powell-also-subject-of-porn-investigation-prosecutor-says.html)

Josh Powell also subject of porn investigation, prosecutor says
Judge to decide Wednesday who gets custody of 2 boys
Published: Tuesday, Sept. 27, 2011 3:17 p.m. MDT

By Gene Johnson, Associated Press

TACOMA, Wash. — The husband of missing West Valley mother Susan Cox Powell is also the subject of a pornography and voyeurism investigation in Washington, a state assistant attorney said Tuesday in Pierce County Superior Court.

Josh Powell denied the accusation that came during a hearing to determine who will take custody of his children.

"I have had nothing to do with any kind of illegal pornography," he said.
 ::snipping2::


 ::MonkeyShocked::
I am praying that Susan's parents can get the little children.At 2 and 4 years of age they must be so confused.They need some mighty big hugs and love right now.  ::rhino::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 27, 2011, 07:46:17 PM
When I said get the boys,I meant FOREVER.  ::rhino::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 27, 2011, 08:28:18 PM
http://**/sltrib/news/52646871-78/powell-josh-steve-court.html.csp
Powell children placed with maternal grandparents
By brooke adams
The Salt Lake Tribune
First published 6 hours ago
Updated 9 minutes ago

 ::snipping2::
Assistant Attorney General John Long argued in Pierce County Superior Court that Josh Powell is the subject of an investigation since police are trying to determine who else may have seen or known about Steve Powell’s criminal activities. Police are also continuing to sift through thousands of images on 15 computers removed from Steve Powell’s home last month, Long said.

Representing himself before Judge Katherine J. Nelson, Josh Powell said he and his siblings had no knowledge of any wrongdoing on his father’s part. If his father is released on bail, Josh Powell said he will move himself and his children out of the Puyallup home.

Josh Powell also reiterated in court he had nothing to do with his wife’s Dec. 7, 2009, disappearance from their West Valley City home.

"I did not harm her," he said. "I did not have anything to do with her disappearance."

Describing himself as a good father and his sons as happy, healthy and well-adjusted, Josh Powell said his oldest son cried and asked him when he could come home during a supervised Monday visit. He urged the judge to meet with his sons and said he was prepared to do parenting classes, counseling or whatever is necessary in her view.

Josh Powell said the custody case appears to be a "collusion to create an end run around the system that is not in the best interests of my sons."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 27, 2011, 09:39:47 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/27/husband-missing-utah-mom-is-subject-child-pornography-investigation/?test=latestnews

Husband of Missing Utah Mom Is Subject of Child Pornography Investigation


Quote
Josh Powell immediately denied any such activity and noted he hasn't been arrested or charged with anything

"I have had nothing to do with any kind of illegal pornography," he said.

Josh Powell frequently came near tears during Tuesday's hearing, breaking up as he described how the boys sat on his lap and hugged him during a visit supervised by CPS on Monday. He also grew emotional as he described the failure of the "general public" to look for his wife: "That, your honor, is deeply hurtful to me."

 
 
OMG...sounds of Cindy Anthony.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 27, 2011, 10:06:50 PM
Powell children placed with maternal grandparents
First published 8 hours ago
Updated 1 hour ago Updated Sep 27, 2011 06:09PM


Tacoma, Wash. • The spokeswoman for the state Children’s Administration said the children of Josh and Susan Powell have been placed with their maternal grandparents as confirmed by legal counsel in court Tuesday, where they will remain subject to future court orders. Custody of the children has not yet been determined.

<snipped>

http://**/sltrib/news/52646871-78/powell-josh-steve-court.html.csp
 

 :smt041


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 27, 2011, 10:34:38 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/27/husband-missing-utah-mom-is-subject-child-pornography-investigation/?test=latestnews

Husband of Missing Utah Mom Is Subject of Child Pornography Investigation


Quote
Josh Powell immediately denied any such activity and noted he hasn't been arrested or charged with anything

"I have had nothing to do with any kind of illegal pornography," he said.

Josh Powell frequently came near tears during Tuesday's hearing, breaking up as he described how the boys sat on his lap and hugged him during a visit supervised by CPS on Monday. He also grew emotional as he described the failure of the "general public" to look for his wife: "That, your honor, is deeply hurtful to me."

 
 
OMG...sounds of Cindy Anthony.   ::MonkeyMad::

WTH?  LE and equipped "general public" have been searching deserts, mines, back country for all this time. What's he been doing? Hanging out at dad's house with 2 other grown siblings... and I don't think any of them work. Real great, josh. The paranoia about LE and govt that dear old dad has seems to be leaking into his mindset.
He has the nerve to accuse the public of not looking for his wife yet he ahs been spending his time trashing her reputation AND staying under the roof of a dirty old man who gets a boner talking about Susan??????


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 27, 2011, 11:00:30 PM
In the article here    http://www.king5.com/news/Susan-Powells-father-husband-in-court-over-custody-of-kids-130647888.html

Josh states that his father won't be bailing out  and that if he did he would take the kids and live in a hotel.  How will that be beneficial? who will pay and for that matter who's going to go get a job and pay the house note?
He can't be trusted with those kids imo, he might take off, he might decide if he can't have them nobody else can either...red flags are waving .


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cookie on September 27, 2011, 11:22:10 PM
In the article here    http://www.king5.com/news/Susan-Powells-father-husband-in-court-over-custody-of-kids-130647888.html

Josh states that his father won't be bailing out  and that if he did he would take the kids and live in a hotel.  How will that be beneficial? who will pay and for that matter who's going to go get a job and pay the house note?
He can't be trusted with those kids imo, he might take off, he might decide if he can't have them nobody else can either...red flags are waving .

I agree! he is a loose cannon and in my opinion, a danger to those children. those kids are better off with Susan's parents..


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 28, 2011, 12:12:40 AM
From a website created to help find Steven Koecher. The list is for clarification and explanation of why Susan and Steven didn't elope to Brazil, as the Powells have said in the findSusan website.

Quote
1.  This contention was originally brought up by the Powell family approximately 10 months ago.  Police investigators could not find a link between the two and concluded there was no evidence to support their running off together.  West Valley and St. George Police met face-to-face to compare phone records, financial records and even records confidential to both investigations.  They found there had been no mutual contact and no reason to believe there had ever been.

2.  Police investigations covering a period of several months also concluded that Steven Koecher had not departed on a commercial flight from the Las Vegas area.

3.  Steven Koecher’s missing passport, which had fueled early speculation about a possible trip to Brazil where he had been a missionary, was found in his personal effects last spring.  The passport is in the possession of his parents, and it is therefore unlikely that he left the country.

4.  Bank records also do not support contentions made on the Powells’ website.  They show that Steven purchased gas for his vehicle at a Maverik and a Tesoro station in Salt Lake City a few days after Susan Powell disappeared, making it most likely that he purchased fuel at stations along I-15.  There are no indications by the items he purchased that he ventured into West Valley, which had been an assertion made on the Powells’ website.

5.  Evidence points to the conclusion that Steven’s disappearance was not a premeditated event.  His cell phone charger, guitar and laptop computer — three things he routinely took with him when he would be gone for several days — were all still found in his apartment in St. George.

6.  It was unlikely he was planning to flee, either alone or with someone else. In the last two conversations from Steven’s cell phone prior to noon on Dec. 13, he told the callers that he was in the Henderson, Nev., area.  He also offered to return that day to St. George if needed, and he had an appointment in St. George later that same afternoon.  These items indicate he was not hiding his whereabouts and his conversations revealed no extraordinary stress or other anomalies.

7.  Police investigations found no evidence of drugs, gambling debts, alcohol or other personal challenges.  Bank records showed no unusual or large transactions, while a one-hour inspection of his vehicle — inside and out — by a Salt Lake County Sheriff’s Department drug-sniffing dog found no drugs in the car nor evidence that the car had ever been used to transport drugs.

8.  Police investigators did, however, find that Steven had been a good Samaritan on the Friday before his disappearance, helping two girls locked out of their home in the cold to find their parents.   He was also a Big Brother/Big Sisters volunteer, actively serving as a Big Brother to a boy in need.

9.  Records of the last entertainment items checked out by Steven show the DVDs of “Lord of the Rings” and “Seabiscuit” plus two books -- one a biography of Pistol Pete Maravich and another about the early settlers of Southern Utah.  These items, too, show nothing unusual in Steven’s behavior near the time of his disappearance.

10.  Steven’s ecclesiastical leaders and associates praised him as the first person to volunteer and the last to leave, and someone they respected and admired.

11.  His last recorded purchase in St. George was made the night before his disappearance.  It showed that he had bought four large decorative Christmas cookies and a baby bib – exactly matching the profile of his brother’s family for whom he was assigned to bring simple Christmas gifts.  The cookies appeared to be for the parents and older children, while the bib appeared to match the needs of their infant daughter.  They were found in Steven Koecher’s abandoned car, still undelivered.


http://www.forsteven.com/News.html



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 28, 2011, 12:25:37 AM
After reading about Steven Koecher, and the Powells, I can't help to wonder if Steven Koecher met his doom by one of the Powells. I mean, getting rid of him a few days later, in order to arouse suspicion and shift attention from them to Koecher.

I just can't visualize a woman missing, and two of her closest relations are saying she ran away with a man, instead of admitting that she could've been kidnapped, or murdered. And, they go so far as to make timelines and maps to prove their point?

A concerned husband and father-in-law would be doing their best to find her, and keeping their hope that she is alive and well.

I mean, HOW can they say she ran away with Koecher, if there is no proof that they ever met?

Sorry, rambling cause I'm tired. But, this case has me so frustrated.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on September 28, 2011, 12:52:14 AM
A three-page article of an interview with the West Valley Police Chief Nelson.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391535/Susan-Powell-case-Weve-got-more-stuff-than-they-can-even-imagine.html?pg=1

Susan Powell case: 'We've got more stuff than they can even imagine'
Investigation in the '4th quarter,' West Valley chief says
Published: Tuesday, Sept. 27, 2011 10:00 p.m. MDT
By Pat Reavy, Deseret News

WEST VALLEY CITY — West Valley Police Chief Thayle "Buzz" Nielsen admits he takes the case of missing mother Susan Cox Powell very personally.

"I promised (Chuck Cox) that we would do everything that is humanly possible, that we just wouldn't give it up," he said of his vow to Susan's father to resolve the case.

It's been 21 months since Susan Powell was last seen. It's been an investigation that saw a swarm of media attention in the beginning, seemingly went quiet for about a year, and recently skyrocketed to the forefront of news headlines with high profile searches in Ely, Nev., the Topaz Mountain region and at the home of Steven and Josh Powell in Puyallup, Wash.

In a sit down interview with Nielsen in his office Tuesday, the chief used phrases like being "in the fourth quarter" and the "tipping point" when describing where the investigation into Susan's disappearance is now at.

"We're right here on the verge of this. We get through the evidence in that trailer, I'm greatly optimistic we will be ... oh man, all that hard work is paying off I think," he told the Deseret News.

Much of his excitement comes from the mountain of evidence collected Aug. 25 during the search of Josh and Steven Powell's home.

"We filled a damn trailer. It's going to take us three months to go through it," the chief said.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 28, 2011, 08:57:15 AM
Has anyone seen an explanation of why Steven Powell had 15 computers in his home?  He worked for the corrections dept, correct?  Did he claim to have a business on the side?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 28, 2011, 08:59:51 AM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20532410,00.html

Josh Powell Now Subject of Child-Porn Investigation

Quote
Pierce County sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer told Tacoma's News Tribune that everyone in Steven Powell's house is a person of interest. "We have not eliminated anybody and we are not at the point of arresting anybody else," Troyer said. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on September 28, 2011, 09:00:39 AM
not sure this vid was posted,josh talking about custody and perv dad

http://www.fox13now.com/kstu-susan-powell-delta-search-west-valley-city-police-searching-for-susan-powell-near-delta-20110913,0,5874293.story


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 28, 2011, 09:07:37 AM
After reading about Steven Koecher, and the Powells, I can't help to wonder if Steven Koecher met his doom by one of the Powells. I mean, getting rid of him a few days later, in order to arouse suspicion and shift attention from them to Koecher.

I just can't visualize a woman missing, and two of her closest relations are saying she ran away with a man, instead of admitting that she could've been kidnapped, or murdered. And, they go so far as to make timelines and maps to prove their point?

A concerned husband and father-in-law would be doing their best to find her, and keeping their hope that she is alive and well.

I mean, HOW can they say she ran away with Koecher, if there is no proof that they ever met?

Sorry, rambling cause I'm tired. But, this case has me so frustrated.



Thank you for posting the website to find Steven Koecher, Moosee.  It gives us more insight.  I agree, the case if very frustrating.  On the plus side, with the arrest of Steven Powell on unrelated charges  it may end up being a link to what happened to Susan.  I find it interesting there were photos of Susan that seemed to have been taken without her knowledge in Steven's photos that were seized by LE.  And LE said they're still going through the evidence found from the search, so maybe there will be more charges forthcoming.  I feel better knowing Susan's sons are safe with the Cox's. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 28, 2011, 09:18:44 AM
Has anyone seen an explanation of why Steven Powell had 15 computers in his home?  He worked for the corrections dept, correct?  Did he claim to have a business on the side?


I found an article that had information about Steve Powell working for the dept. of corrections, but I haven't seen anything in regard to your other questions yet.  If I see it, I'll post it.  Maybe someone else has come across it. I surely do wonder if Steve Powell was delivering furniture to schools, if he had contact with students?!    And I wonder how the Dept. of Corrections feels about having perv on their payroll all this time? 
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391412/Chuck-Cox-says-he-feels-vindicated.html
Chuck Cox says he feels vindicated
September 24, 2011
 ::snipping2::
Steven Powell remained in the Pierce County Jail Saturday on $200,000 cash only bail. If he posts bail, he won't have a job to go back to. Powell has been fired by the Washington Department of Corrections. He was employed as a delivery driver who took furniture made by inmates to local schools.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 28, 2011, 09:27:18 AM
Has anyone seen an explanation of why Steven Powell had 15 computers in his home?  He worked for the corrections dept, correct?  Did he claim to have a business on the side?


I found an article that had information about Steve Powell working for the dept. of corrections, but I haven't seen anything in regard to your other questions yet.  If I see it, I'll post it.  Maybe someone else has come across it. I surely do wonder if Steve Powell was delivering furniture to schools, if he had contact with students?!    And I wonder how the Dept. of Corrections feels about having perv on their payroll all this time? 
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391412/Chuck-Cox-says-he-feels-vindicated.html
Chuck Cox says he feels vindicated
September 24, 2011
 ::snipping2::
Steven Powell remained in the Pierce County Jail Saturday on $200,000 cash only bail. If he posts bail, he won't have a job to go back to. Powell has been fired by the Washington Department of Corrections. He was employed as a delivery driver who took furniture made by inmates to local schools.
 ::snipping2::
Here in GA we would have such deliveries made to a central location and school system personnel would be responsible for delivering to the actual school location.  I hope that is the case with SP.  I can't imagine having such a predator roaming schools freely.  Wasn't that anyone that got a strange vibe from this guy besides Susan?

As for the 15 computers...my hubby is a computer guy.  We have, at times, had that many machines in his workshop being worked on.  But that is a separate building from our home.  Unless SP has some sort of repair business I can't imagine why he'd have that much technology in his home unless it somehow related to his alledged criminal activity.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Kimmy53 on September 28, 2011, 09:47:06 AM
Has anyone seen an explanation of why Steven Powell had 15 computers in his home?  He worked for the corrections dept, correct?  Did he claim to have a business on the side?

I have wondered too... 15 computers?  that's alot - IMO probably years of his picture hobby is on those drives..  Creep.  I hope they find enough to nail that nasty old man and his freak son.    I am sure Josh knew what his dad was doing.  They disgust me.

 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 28, 2011, 10:41:38 AM
Has anyone seen an explanation of why Steven Powell had 15 computers in his home?  He worked for the corrections dept, correct?  Did he claim to have a business on the side?


I found an article that had information about Steve Powell working for the dept. of corrections, but I haven't seen anything in regard to your other questions yet.  If I see it, I'll post it.  Maybe someone else has come across it. I surely do wonder if Steve Powell was delivering furniture to schools, if he had contact with students?!    And I wonder how the Dept. of Corrections feels about having perv on their payroll all this time? 
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391412/Chuck-Cox-says-he-feels-vindicated.html
Chuck Cox says he feels vindicated
September 24, 2011
 ::snipping2::
Steven Powell remained in the Pierce County Jail Saturday on $200,000 cash only bail. If he posts bail, he won't have a job to go back to. Powell has been fired by the Washington Department of Corrections. He was employed as a delivery driver who took furniture made by inmates to local schools.
 ::snipping2::

Sick, sick, sick

I can just see Steve the perv smirking when he got that job with the dept of corrections delivering furniture to the schools...knowing he had put one up on them probably added to his other thrills.  He just seems to me to think he's the smartest guy in the room and that he is making fools out of everyone.....who is the fool now Steve?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 28, 2011, 11:09:30 AM
Has anyone seen an explanation of why Steven Powell had 15 computers in his home?  He worked for the corrections dept, correct?  Did he claim to have a business on the side?

Wasn't Josh's field IT or something similiar?  That would mean he probably had access to lots of equipment companies were getting rid of and either got it free or for a very small price.  Between Josh and his Dad one can only wonder what kind of use those computers were rigged for..and what info may be stored on some of them.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: yuknomenot on September 28, 2011, 12:48:55 PM
In the article here    http://www.king5.com/news/Susan-Powells-father-husband-in-court-over-custody-of-kids-130647888.html

Josh states that his father won't be bailing out  and that if he did he would take the kids and live in a hotel.  How will that be beneficial? who will pay and for that matter who's going to go get a job and pay the house note?
He can't be trusted with those kids imo, he might take off, he might decide if he can't have them nobody else can either...red flags are waving .

I agree! he is a loose cannon and in my opinion, a danger to those children. those kids are better off with Susan's parents..
IMO he is a danger to Susan's family also.  I hope they have protected themselves and greatly beefed up security all around them.  I can't even begin to imagine what it must be like for them, the horror of Susan being gone now mixed with the joy of finally having the boys in the house. And then back to what must be terrfiying, not knowing if that psycho Josh is lurking around now to kidnap the boys. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 28, 2011, 01:33:02 PM
Very possible Gypsy.

In the very least, I believe Steven Powell helped Josh with the coverup.

So does Steve Powell's SIL.

Interesting read.  The article reveals background dynamic encompassing Josh's family.

Janet

++++

Powell case leaves family fractured
Published: December 7, 2010 04:20PM
Updated: March 23, 2011 12:24AM

 
<snipped>

Susan Powell said her father-in-law belittled her and pressured his son not to attend Mormon church services, said Josh Powell’s sister, Jennifer Graves, in a Friday interview. In the weeks leading up to Susan’s disappearance, Josh and his father spent hours on the phone several times a week, Graves said, and the couple’s strained relationship grew worse.

<snipped>

“I think Steve knows everything by now and has chosen to help cover it up. Whether or not he was involved before and during the fact, I’m not sure,” said Kirk Graves.

<snipped>

http://**/csp/cms/sites/sltrib/pages/printerfriendly.csp?id=50818007


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cookie on September 28, 2011, 01:47:37 PM
In the article here    http://www.king5.com/news/Susan-Powells-father-husband-in-court-over-custody-of-kids-130647888.html

Josh states that his father won't be bailing out  and that if he did he would take the kids and live in a hotel.  How will that be beneficial? who will pay and for that matter who's going to go get a job and pay the house note?
He can't be trusted with those kids imo, he might take off, he might decide if he can't have them nobody else can either...red flags are waving .

I agree! he is a loose cannon and in my opinion, a danger to those children. those kids are better off with Susan's parents..
IMO he is a danger to Susan's family also.  I hope they have protected themselves and greatly beefed up security all around them.  I can't even begin to imagine what it must be like for them, the horror of Susan being gone now mixed with the joy of finally having the boys in the house. And then back to what must be terrfiying, not knowing if that psycho Josh is lurking around now to kidnap the boys. 

ITA!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 28, 2011, 01:51:42 PM
Trips to and from the bedroom for "just one more peek" at their sleeping grandsons that they have not embraced for sooo long imply that Grandma and Grandpa Cox did not get a wink's sleep last night.

Janet

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Husband of Missing Utah Mom Battles for Custody of Kids Despite Child Porn Probe
Published September 28, 2011


The husband of missing Utah mother Susan Powell is due in court Wednesday to battle for custody of the couple's children, despite an accusation that he was the subject of a child porn investigation.

Josh Powell is trying to win back his sons, ages 4 and 6, after they were temporarily placed with their maternal grandparents Chuck and Judy Cox.

During a hearing Tuesday, assistant attorney general for Child Protective Services, John Long, accused Josh Powell of being the subject of a pornography and voyeurism investigation, Komo News reports.

Police said they were trying to establish whether Josh Powell had anything to do with the thousands of images his father Steve Powell -- who is currently in jail awaiting trial -- allegedly captured of women and girls without their knowledge, according to the Salt Lake Tribune

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/28/husband-missing-utah-mom-battles-for-custody-kids-despite-child-porn-probe/?test=latestnews



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 28, 2011, 02:35:19 PM
Trips to and from the bedroom for "just one more peek" at their sleeping grandsons that they have not embraced for sooo long imply that Grandma and Grandpa Cox did not get a wink's sleep last night.

Janet

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Husband of Missing Utah Mom Battles for Custody of Kids Despite Child Porn Probe
Published September 28, 2011


The husband of missing Utah mother Susan Powell is due in court Wednesday to battle for custody of the couple's children, despite an accusation that he was the subject of a child porn investigation.

Josh Powell is trying to win back his sons, ages 4 and 6, after they were temporarily placed with their maternal grandparents Chuck and Judy Cox.

During a hearing Tuesday, assistant attorney general for Child Protective Services, John Long, accused Josh Powell of being the subject of a pornography and voyeurism investigation, Komo News reports.

Police said they were trying to establish whether Josh Powell had anything to do with the thousands of images his father Steve Powell -- who is currently in jail awaiting trial -- allegedly captured of women and girls without their knowledge, according to the Salt Lake Tribune

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/28/husband-missing-utah-mom-battles-for-custody-kids-despite-child-porn-probe/?test=latestnews


I hope that Josh's involvement/noninvolvement with the porn stuff is not the only criteria the court uses to decide custody. What about his alliance with his father regarding the false allegations of Susan's sexual and flirtatious behavior? The isolation of the boys from anyone but them? What about Josh's earning capability and the fact that he has made no attempt at establishing a stable life for them, I don't think SP did all of his voyerism and online activities hidden from the rest of the household?  I wish they would order a psychological eval on him.
moo


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 28, 2011, 04:10:32 PM
 ::MonkeyShocked::

The public record should have dictated that those little were at risk and should not have been allowed to reside in Steve Powell's residence for the past two years.  It was obvious that this man was a sicko from way back.

Janet

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APNewsBreak: Susan Powell’s father-in-law had past porn troubles in 1992 divorce case
Updated: Wednesday, September 28, 12:42 PM


SPOKANE, Wash. — The father-in-law of a missing Utah woman was once accused of inappropriately discussing sex with children and keeping pornography in his home against the wishes of his wife, according to court documents.

A 1992 divorce case reviewed by The Associated Press shows Steve Powell’s ex-wife accusing him of damaging his children’s respect for marriage. Powell was charged this month with child pornography and voyeurism after authorities investigating the disappearance of Susan Powell searched his home him Puyallup.

Susan Powell’s husband, Josh, has been named a person of interest in the case, and he was recently living with Steve Powell.

In the court documents, Terri Powell wrote that Steve Powell talked of teaching his children about birth control methods when they were as young as 9 years old. Terri’s sister, Becky Mulcahy, wrote in the documents that Steve Powell told her that he had shown his youngest children books about sexual intercourse when they were 6 and 8 years old.

Terri Powell said her husband viewed people as animals and that they should be able to have sex with anyone at any time. She recalled a conversation in which Josh referred to a girl his brother, Johnny, liked. “All she is good for is her body, right Dad?” Terri recalled Josh saying.

“Yeah, that’s right,” Steve Powell replied, according to the declaration.

Terri Powell also said Steve Powell kept hardcore pornography in the home and that he visited pornography shops.

Jennifer Graves, Josh Powell’s sister, said in an interview with The Associated Press that she broke off ties with her father in part because of his problems with sex and pornography. She recalled going on a business trip with her father when she was about 11 years old and that he viewed a pornographic video while she was with him.

“Looking back, I wonder if he was willing to do that with a 10-12 year girl — his daughter— in the room, what else would he be willing to do?” she said.

<snipped>

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/children-placed-with-parents-of-missing-utah-mom-pending-further-court-orders/2011/09/28/gIQAN4fx3K_story.html



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 28, 2011, 04:12:10 PM
Trips to and from the bedroom for "just one more peek" at their sleeping grandsons that they have not embraced for sooo long imply that Grandma and Grandpa Cox did not get a wink's sleep last night.

Janet

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Husband of Missing Utah Mom Battles for Custody of Kids Despite Child Porn Probe
Published September 28, 2011


The husband of missing Utah mother Susan Powell is due in court Wednesday to battle for custody of the couple's children, despite an accusation that he was the subject of a child porn investigation.

Josh Powell is trying to win back his sons, ages 4 and 6, after they were temporarily placed with their maternal grandparents Chuck and Judy Cox.

During a hearing Tuesday, assistant attorney general for Child Protective Services, John Long, accused Josh Powell of being the subject of a pornography and voyeurism investigation, Komo News reports.

Police said they were trying to establish whether Josh Powell had anything to do with the thousands of images his father Steve Powell -- who is currently in jail awaiting trial -- allegedly captured of women and girls without their knowledge, according to the Salt Lake Tribune

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/28/husband-missing-utah-mom-battles-for-custody-kids-despite-child-porn-probe/?test=latestnews


I hope that Josh's involvement/noninvolvement with the porn stuff is not the only criteria the court uses to decide custody. What about his alliance with his father regarding the false allegations of Susan's sexual and flirtatious behavior? The isolation of the boys from anyone but them? What about Josh's earning capability and the fact that he has made no attempt at establishing a stable life for them, I don't think SP did all of his voyerism and online activities hidden from the rest of the household?  I wish they would order a psychological eval on him.
moo

I am just hoping at this point that they have enough to arrest Josh on the possible porn charges...then he certainly can't get custody.  I am afraid if they give him the boys back he will take off with them to parts unknown...another wilderness camp-out.

The other family members had to know but I am sure brother Michael put them into spin and deflect mode..coverup everything deny everything..wouldn't look good for his future political leanings would it?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 28, 2011, 04:19:52 PM
Originally published September 28, 2011 at 12:36 PM |
Page modified September 28, 2011 at 1:05 PM
Discussing sex with kids, porn part of Steve Powell's divorce


<snipped>

Susan Powell's family is now seeking custody of her children, a request Child Protective Services has temporarily granted. A Tacoma judge spent Wednesday morning considering whether to allow cameras in the courtroom for the custody dispute and plans to revisit the case issues in the afternoon.

<snipped>

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2016343850_apusmissingmomutah.html




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 28, 2011, 04:45:18 PM
http://**/sltrib/news/52651411-78/powell-graves-hearing-susan.html.csp
Live: Day 2 of Susan Powell kids custody hearing
By Brooke adams
The Salt Lake Tribune
First published 5 hours ago
Updated 32 minutes ago


Tacoma, Wash. • The second day of a custody hearing over the sons of missing Utah mother Susan Cox Powell began Wednesday morning but has stalled over media access issues
 ::snipping2::

 ::snipping2::
CPS temporarily placed the boys, ages 6 and 4, with Susan Powell’s parents, Chuck and Judy Cox, on Tuesday. Wearing a purple shirt — a color that has come to symbolize the search for the missing woman — the sister-in-law of Susan Powell said during the recess she visited with the boys Tuesday night at the Coxes’ Puyallup home.

They read stories and played games, said Jennifer Graves, who traveled to Washington from her Utah home.

"The boys really warmed up to us quickly," Graves said. "They were really happy to see us."

Chuck Cox spoke briefly to The Salt Lake Tribune about the boys, saying "They are with us and they’re doing fine."

Graves said allegations by her estranged brother, Josh Powell, that his sons don’t know their grandparents or other relatives is "ridiculous."

"They were "over at our house almost weekly," she said. "The idea they don’t know us is silly."

Asked if the boys had inquired about their dad, Graves said, "They mentioned something, but we just tried to not go into that kind of thing."

Graves said she shares the Coxes’ belief that her brother is responsible for his wife’s December 2009 disappearance and even perhaps the illegal activities their father is now alleged to have engaged in. Steve Powell was arrested on Sept. 22 on charges of voyeurism and possessing child pornography. He remains in jail on $200,000 bail.

Graves said given all that, "I believe the boys will be in a better place if they are not with Josh right now."

"It’s sad that it’s come to this," she said, but "we need to figure out the truth."

She also said she and her husband are willing to take custody of the boys if necessary.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 28, 2011, 04:54:36 PM
Mods,is the link I used a bad one we are not supposed to use?If so....sorry.  ::MonkeyCool::

It's okay trimm.  Here's the latest on that from Klaasend.  MB

FWIW - Now that it looks like Righthaven is getting itself into trouble, I think it's safe to post SNIPPED articles from the Salt Lake Tribune here at SM.  As long as the article is SNIPPED you can post the **** link and if anyone wants to read the entire thing they can figure out how to find the website.

By the way, what I do when I check for recent news in this case is I Google Salt Lake City Utah News and that will bring up news websites (including the Tribune).  For this case I also check Tacoma Washington News since the Cox and Powell family live in that vicinity.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 28, 2011, 05:09:43 PM
Knowing whether he had a connection to his father "stash" will take time. In an interview this morning it was said that they collected one trailerfull of evidence and may take up to three months to go through it.

There is mention of Josh's brother answering the door in the nude, and of a hanging "noose" which Josh says is there for exercise.

No decision yet of the judge on who shall have custody.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 28, 2011, 05:23:32 PM
Knowing whether he had a connection to his father "stash" will take time. In an interview this morning it was said that they collected one trailerfull of evidence and may take up to three months to go through it.

There is mention of Josh's brother answering the door in the nude, and of a hanging "noose" which Josh says is there for exercise.

No decision yet of the judge on who shall have custody.



What a healthy and homey environment for the boys..nude uncle, noose's to exercise with, grandpa's porn collection of young girls and ladies to review ...was the nude brother Michael the wanna be politician by any chance?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 28, 2011, 05:25:44 PM
Judge says children cannot be safely returned to father's home.

The children cannot be placed with Josh Powell.

Now the Coxes are explaining why the children should be placed with them.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 28, 2011, 05:28:31 PM
Judge decided to keep the children with the Coxes!!!!... for now.

There had been talk of a poster of a woman with a spear entering her body and coming out through the stomach. Josh swore that it was not hanging on the wall.

Now I'm nauseous.





Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 28, 2011, 05:37:15 PM
http://**/sltrib/news/52651411-78/powell-josh-graves-steve.html.csp

 ::snipping2::

Tacoma, Wash. • A judge here has ruled the children of missing Utah mother Susan Cox Powell will remain in state custody, saying it is not safe for them to continue living with their father, Josh Powell.

Pierce County Superior Court Judge Kathryn J. Nelson made the ruling just after 3 p.m. MST.

 ::snipping2::

Looks like Mr and Mrs Cox will be having the boys stay with them.  It appears that until they can get through the truckload of computers, and other things taken at the Powell residence the State is leaving them with the Cox family........GREAT NEWS


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 28, 2011, 05:41:33 PM
Following this through The Tribune reporter's twitter, from the link provided above.

Josh objected to the boys placement, don't want the boys to go to church with the Coxes, and want unsupervised and unlimited visitation.

Judge says 3 hours on Sundays, supervised, for starters.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on September 28, 2011, 05:49:01 PM
Excellent news.  This is how it's supposed to work.  It should make sense and this decision makes sense.  I feel much better knowing the children aren't with Josh.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 28, 2011, 05:52:12 PM
It appears that the fruit does not fall far from the tree.

Janet

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Judge rules Susan Powell kids must remain in state custody
First published 6 hours ago
Updated 5 minutes ago Updated Sep 28, 2011 03:37PM

 
<snipped>

The state’s Child Protective Services (CPS) temporarily placed the boys, ages 6 and 4, with Susan Powell’s parents, Chuck and Judy Cox, on Tuesday. Wednesday’s ruling means they will remain in their grandparents’ Puyallup home.

An attorney representing CPS, John Long, told Nelson Wednesday there are many good reasons that warrant keeping the children in state custody instead of with their father, Josh Powell.

Chief among them: police are still investigating what Josh Powell may or may not have known about his father’s criminal activities while he was living with him in Puyallup. Steve Powell was arrested on Sept. 22 on charges of voyeurism and possessing child pornography, and police have said they are still combing through the thousands of images of women and girls filmed by Steve Powell without their knowledge.

The images, taken from 15 computers confiscated from the home in August, were available to everyone living in the home, Long argued. Josh Powell and his sons have been living with Steve Powell since last year.

Long also said Josh Powell admitted to CPS workers that he has taken photos of people’s legs without knowledge and that some of his father’s information may be on his computer.

Josh Powell countered in court that he did not go through his father’s personal belongings and also said his career as a software developer has no link at all to his father’s crimes. Most of the 15 computers were old and in disuse, he said.

http://**/sltrib/news/52651411-78/powell-josh-graves-judge.html.csp




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 28, 2011, 05:53:58 PM
OMG! Josh now asks the judge to send the kids to Foster care, instead of with the Coxes.

Judge calls recess, will resume at 3:15pm.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 28, 2011, 06:03:30 PM
OMG! Josh now asks the judge to send the kids to Foster care, instead of with the Coxes.

Judge calls recess, will resume at 3:15pm.


::MonkeyShocked:: Thanks for all the updates.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 28, 2011, 06:14:12 PM
OMG! Josh now asks the judge to send the kids to Foster care, instead of with the Coxes.

Judge calls recess, will resume at 3:15pm.



I don't think that will fly..the judge has made up her mind on that issue...and Josh ain't looking so good right now.

I have a feeling he doesn't want the boys with the Coxs because he is afraid they will tell their Grandparents what they know.  I think Josh has tried to brainwash the kids about everything and coherse them into lying.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on September 28, 2011, 06:21:33 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391572/Judge-declines-to-let-Josh-Powell-have-custody-of-his-2-sons.html (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391572/Judge-declines-to-let-Josh-Powell-have-custody-of-his-2-sons.html)

Judge declines to let Josh Powell have custody of his 2 sons
Published: Wednesday, Sept. 28, 2011 3:49 p.m. MDT

By Pat Reavy, Deseret News

ACOMA, Wash. — A judge declined to allow Josh Powell to have custody of his two sons Wednesday and is hearing arguments about whether to allow them to live with their grandparents or remain in foster care.

Judge Kathryn Nelson said the children could not be safely returned to their home with their father, who prosecutors say is a subject in a voyeurism and pornography investigation.

Josh Powell argued that the boys, ages 4 and 6, should remain in foster care rather than live with his in-laws, Chuck and Judy Cox.
 ::snipping2::

He said Josh's mentally disabled brother has answered the door in the nude in the past and is often nude inside the home.

Long also told the judge that Josh Powell has admitted that he takes photos of people's legs in public without their knowledge.
 ::snipping2::




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 28, 2011, 06:30:40 PM
Court resumed.

Josh will have to go to parenting classes, do psych evaluation, and supervised visitation.

Next hearing november 15th, for status review... followed a few weeks after that for a hearing to decide trial on permanent custody.

Coxes say they will gets kids counseling. Josh request to know who the counselor will be.

Josh requests a gag order from the Coxes and others (police?), regarding the family issues. Judge says she only has jurisdiction of those involved in the case in front of her.

Restraining order amended to allow Coxes in the Powell neighborhood so the older kid can remain in same school.

I think this is it, not expecting Josh to have a tantrum and confess... at least today.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 28, 2011, 06:31:18 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391572/Judge-declines-to-let-Josh-Powell-have-custody-of-his-2-sons.html (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391572/Judge-declines-to-let-Josh-Powell-have-custody-of-his-2-sons.html)

Judge declines to let Josh Powell have custody of his 2 sons
Published: Wednesday, Sept. 28, 2011 3:49 p.m. MDT

By Pat Reavy, Deseret News

ACOMA, Wash. — A judge declined to allow Josh Powell to have custody of his two sons Wednesday and is hearing arguments about whether to allow them to live with their grandparents or remain in foster care.

Judge Kathryn Nelson said the children could not be safely returned to their home with their father, who prosecutors say is a subject in a voyeurism and pornography investigation.

Josh Powell argued that the boys, ages 4 and 6, should remain in foster care rather than live with his in-laws, Chuck and Judy Cox.
 ::snipping2::

He said Josh's mentally disabled brother has answered the door in the nude in the past and is often nude inside the home.

Long also told the judge that Josh Powell has admitted that he takes photos of people's legs in public without their knowledge.
 ::snipping2::


I scanned the title too quickly and read ... "Judge decides ..." and once again entered the Twilight Zone ... the Twilight Zone where nothing makes sense.

Thanks Klass.  I am sooo relieved.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 28, 2011, 06:33:37 PM
Thanks for the ongoing updates Itaryl Moosee.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: CarolF on September 28, 2011, 06:37:36 PM
The News Tribune - Tacoma Washington
http://blog.thenewstribune.com/crime/2011/09/28/judge-expected-to-rule-on-custody-of-powell-boys-today3eea5/

Judge Kathryn Nelson issued the ruling after hearing from the state and Josh Powell regarding the custody of Josh and Susan Cox Powell's two sons, ages 4 and 6.

Nelson awarded temporary custody of the boys to Susan Cox Powell's parents, Chuck and Judy Cox. Josh Powell has been granted supervised visits.


I am so relieved that custody has been given to Susan's parents. I just with they had not given Josh visits but glad they are going to be supervised. The Cox's have surly suffered enough.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 28, 2011, 06:51:06 PM
Thanks for the ongoing updates Itaryl Moosee.

Janet

Thanks, Janet, for your updates, too.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 28, 2011, 07:02:53 PM
This has probably already been said, but perhaps Susan found out about things she wasn't supposed to and that was the cause of her demise.

Due to the child porn and other charges, the FBI should now be able to get involved.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 28, 2011, 07:24:53 PM
Court resumed.

Josh will have to go to parenting classes, do psych evaluation, and supervised visitation.

Next hearing november 15th, for status review... followed a few weeks after that for a hearing to decide trial on permanent custody.

Coxes say they will gets kids counseling. Josh request to know who the counselor will be.

Josh requests a gag order from the Coxes and others (police?), regarding the family issues. Judge says she only has jurisdiction of those involved in the case in front of her.

Restraining order amended to allow Coxes in the Powell neighborhood so the older kid can remain in same school.

I think this is it, not expecting Josh to have a tantrum and confess... at least today.


Thank you Itaryl Moosee ..this is a victory for the boys and the Coxs...hopefully in the next month and a half LE will have solid info to put Josh behind bars for Susan's disappearance..


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 28, 2011, 07:26:40 PM
This has probably already been said, but perhaps Susan found out about things she wasn't supposed to and that was the cause of her demise.

Due to the child porn and other charges, the FBI should now be able to get involved.



 ::rhino::..also wonder how much of that was kept private and if any hit the internet for sale or sharing with other likeminded pervs...


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on September 28, 2011, 07:28:39 PM
This has probably already been said, but perhaps Susan found out about things she wasn't supposed to and that was the cause of her demise.

Due to the child porn and other charges, the FBI should now be able to get involved.



I wondered that myself


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 28, 2011, 08:32:32 PM
YAY! Finally, score a victory for the Cox family.
Thanks to everyone for the updates.
The one statement about JP admitting that he takes pictures of people's legs w/o permission is creepy. The nut hasn't fallen very far from the tree.
I sure do agree with Yuk's post from yesterday about the Cox's taking extra-extra precautions now...going out on a limb here thinking that Josh is about as angry and feeling impotent as when he got rid of Susan. He may be a dolt but he appears to have some major control issues and he just lost control of things in a big way.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 28, 2011, 09:54:58 PM
YAY! Finally, score a victory for the Cox family.
Thanks to everyone for the updates.
The one statement about JP admitting that he takes pictures of people's legs w/o permission is creepy. The nut hasn't fallen very far from the tree.
I sure do agree with Yuk's post from yesterday about the Cox's taking extra-extra precautions now...going out on a limb here thinking that Josh is about as angry and feeling impotent as when he got rid of Susan. He may be a dolt but he appears to have some major control issues and he just lost control of things in a big way.

The BIG problem being that if Josh knows that "things" he has tried to hide are uncovered, and he knows he's going to jail for a long time... who is to say what he will do.

I don't even want to think about it, but I hope someone does. He could harm himself and the children, if he's cornered.

Hopefully he won't, but desperate people do desperate things. You never know.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 28, 2011, 10:05:57 PM
YAY! Finally, score a victory for the Cox family.
Thanks to everyone for the updates.
The one statement about JP admitting that he takes pictures of people's legs w/o permission is creepy. The nut hasn't fallen very far from the tree.
I sure do agree with Yuk's post from yesterday about the Cox's taking extra-extra precautions now...going out on a limb here thinking that Josh is about as angry and feeling impotent as when he got rid of Susan. He may be a dolt but he appears to have some major control issues and he just lost control of things in a big way.

The BIG problem being that if Josh knows that "things" he has tried to hide are uncovered, and he knows he's going to jail for a long time... who is to say what he will do.

I don't even want to think about it, but I hope someone does. He could harm himself and the children, if he's cornered.

Hopefully he won't, but desperate people do desperate things. You never know.


I know IM.  The weird thing is, out of all the people in the world, the Cox's seem very compliant with rules, not very vocal about JS in a real negative way..but yet he is obsessed with them and what they might say about HIM. They have been meekly living in the same town with that SOB and haven't busted his chops about anything before, he's scared of what those kids can tell.
Maybe not about their mom's last night but living with the Powell's must have lots of strange everyday goings-on.  We're worried, seriously I hope the local PD is watching him.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 28, 2011, 10:24:37 PM
I can't believe that he admitted to taking photos of legs.  That tells me that there is something in all those computers that Joshy is worried about.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 28, 2011, 10:35:56 PM
I can't believe that he admitted to taking photos of legs.  That tells me that there is something in all those computers that Joshy is worried about.


It sounds to me like Josh has some sort of leg fetish, and the fact that he admits he was taking photos of people's legs without their knowledge is headed toward voyeurism imo.   Josh is going to have to undergo a psychiatric exam.  Who knows what that might reveal?  And KittyMom, you may be onto something.  Perhaps there are things on the computer/s that Josh is worried about.  I wonder if LE has tested the hard copy photos and other materials for fingerprints.  It would be very interesting if Josh's were on some of them. How would he explain that away?   


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 28, 2011, 10:43:24 PM
I can't believe that he admitted to taking photos of legs.  That tells me that there is something in all those computers that Joshy is worried about.

It's so weird Josh admitted to taking photos of legs of people without their knowledge.  You may be onto something KittyMom.  Maybe there is something in the computers Josh is worried about.  Also,  I wonder if LE has checked some of the hard copy photos or videos for fingerprints or some other way to see if Josh had any physical contact with the items.     If Joshy handled them, that could raise a lot of questions. 
Or if he's identifiable through the photos he took?  Did he just offer this info up willy-nilly or was there something that led to this question being asked of him?  Something smells fishy to me.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on September 28, 2011, 10:53:38 PM
It is so nice to read something positive in this dispicable mess with Josh and his perv Daddy.
I hope these guys BOTH get busted.

My thoughts and prayers r with the Cox's and their 2 new family members.
May they all find mental healing and peace.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 28, 2011, 10:55:14 PM
I can't believe that he admitted to taking photos of legs.  That tells me that there is something in all those computers that Joshy is worried about.

It's so weird Josh admitted to taking photos of legs of people without their knowledge.  You may be onto something KittyMom.  Maybe there is something in the computers Josh is worried about.  Also,  I wonder if LE has checked some of the hard copy photos or videos for fingerprints or some other way to see if Josh had any physical contact with the items.     If Joshy handled them, that could raise a lot of questions. 
Or if he's identifiable through the photos he took?  Did he just offer this info up willy-nilly or was there something that led to this question being asked of him?  Something smells fishy to me.

BBM


It will be interesting to see how this plays out.  While you were writing the post in reply to mine, I was rewriting to clarify what I was trying to say.  Anyway, some of the articles posted say Josh denied knowing about the stash of porn and/or the stuff on the computers, and maybe that's when he admitted to the leg photography.  That just creeps me out. 



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 28, 2011, 10:59:04 PM
I can't believe that he admitted to taking photos of legs.  That tells me that there is something in all those computers that Joshy is worried about.

 ::rhino::

Judge rules Susan Powell kids must remain in state custody
First published 6 hours ago
Updated 5 minutes ago Updated Sep 28, 2011 03:37PM

 
An attorney representing CPS, John Long, told Nelson Wednesday there are many good reasons that warrant keeping the children in state custody instead of with their father, Josh Powell.

<snipped>

Long also said Josh Powell admitted to CPS workers that he has taken photos of people’s legs without knowledge and that some of his father’s information may be on his computer.

http://**/sltrib/news/52651411-78/powell-josh-graves-judge.html.csp



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on September 28, 2011, 11:02:06 PM
WHO other than a perv would take photos of peoples legs without their knowledge?  I think Susan found out that Josh was as big a PERV as his dad, she threatened to leave and take the kids and he killed her.  I think Steven Powell helped Josh dispose of Susan's body.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 28, 2011, 11:02:37 PM
I am so thankful that those two little boys are safe with Grandma and Grandpa Cox.

Good Night All

Janet
8:00 PM PT


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 28, 2011, 11:03:17 PM
I can't believe that he admitted to taking photos of legs.  That tells me that there is something in all those computers that Joshy is worried about.

It's so weird Josh admitted to taking photos of legs of people without their knowledge.  You may be onto something KittyMom.  Maybe there is something in the computers Josh is worried about.  Also,  I wonder if LE has checked some of the hard copy photos or videos for fingerprints or some other way to see if Josh had any physical contact with the items.     If Joshy handled them, that could raise a lot of questions. 
Or if he's identifiable through the photos he took?  Did he just offer this info up willy-nilly or was there something that led to this question being asked of him?  Something smells fishy to me.

BBM


It will be interesting to see how this plays out.  While you were writing the post in reply to mine, I was rewriting to clarify what I was trying to say.  Anyway, some of the articles posted say Josh denied knowing about the stash of porn and/or the stuff on the computers, and maybe that's when he admitted to the leg photography.  That just creeps me out. 
)

From my extensive crime TV show knowledge ( ::MonkeyHaHa::) I bet he copped to the creepster leg pictures because he's busted on something...his cyber prints on the computer files or something otherwise no way he'd confess to anything.  Like guys that swear they've never been in a victim's house until LE blurts out that they;ve got DNA, THEN the guy remembers he fixed the faucet one time ...right! 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 28, 2011, 11:20:06 PM
WHO other than a perv would take photos of peoples legs without their knowledge?  I think Susan found out that Josh was as big a PERV as his dad, she threatened to leave and take the kids and he killed her.  I think Steven Powell helped Josh dispose of Susan's body.

ITA  ::rhino::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 28, 2011, 11:25:43 PM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=17441820  (http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=17441820)

West Valley City putting full resources into ‘red hot' Powell investigation

Quote
According to Mayor Mike Winder, police have spent a lot of time and resources on this case — much of it behind the scenes — and he says the evidence is mounting.

Winder says what's been made public so far doesn't tell the entire story. Real evidence, he says, led to the searches in Ely, Nev., and Topaz Mountain. Those efforts, although seemingly futile, were just a small part of a bigger investigation.

Winder says Steven Powell's arrest on pornography and voyeurism charges was a long-time coming. Winder knew about the arrest four days before it happened.

Winder also said despite Josh Powell's comments in a Washington state courtroom Tuesday, Powell has never talked with police in West Valley City or anywhere else.
 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on September 29, 2011, 12:58:52 AM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Susan-Powell-case-is-at-a-tipping-point/UKndT35q0kSO43n678Qesw.cspx

Susan Powell case is at a "tipping point"
Updated: 7:09 pm | Published: 6:50 pm

SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) – West Valley City has spent more than $500 thousand dollars on the Susan Powell case, but Mayor Mike Winder says it’s paying off. "We feel that we are getting to that tipping point where we have more hot evidence than we have had in the past two years."

Mayor Mike Winder says that includes trailers full of evidence from both the Powell residence in Washington and the most resent search of the Topaz mountain area. "We have bones, we have charred clothing, we have charred wood, with what the cadaver dogs are excited about, and that we are doing DNA analysis on."

He says that analysis could take up to three months. "Are they ancient items? Are they relatively recent? Are they related to this case? That is what we will look to find out."

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: texasmom on September 29, 2011, 01:51:10 AM
WHO other than a perv would take photos of peoples legs without their knowledge?  I think Susan found out that Josh was as big a PERV as his dad, she threatened to leave and take the kids and he killed her.  I think Steven Powell helped Josh dispose of Susan's body.

ITA  ::rhino::

Me too!   ::rhino::



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: TnMuse on September 29, 2011, 03:44:57 AM
Thanks EveryOne for all the updates!  Watching Josh's demeanor in the court videos, I get a feeling there is rage boiling just beneath the surface.  The man has nothing left to lose.  He's likely to explode and no telling who could get hurt. Sure hope LE keeps a close eye.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 29, 2011, 07:13:48 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44712637/ns/us_news-life/#.ToRRLtR6KuI
Husband of missing Utah mom Susan Powell not getting kids back
Josh Powell's lack of cooperation with police 'leads the state to believe that he is responsible for her disappearance'
msnbc.com staff and news service reports
updated 9/29/2011 2:41:24 AM ET


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 29, 2011, 07:14:30 AM
WHO other than a perv would take photos of peoples legs without their knowledge?  I think Susan found out that Josh was as big a PERV as his dad, she threatened to leave and take the kids and he killed her.  I think Steven Powell helped Josh dispose of Susan's body.

ITA  ::rhino::

Me too!   ::rhino::


::rhino::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 29, 2011, 07:15:51 AM
 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 29, 2011, 08:54:55 AM
::rhino::

      ::rhino::
 ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 29, 2011, 10:44:08 AM
WHO other than a perv would take photos of peoples legs without their knowledge?  I think Susan found out that Josh was as big a PERV as his dad, she threatened to leave and take the kids and he killed her.  I think Steven Powell helped Josh dispose of Susan's body.


Steven Powell's son-in-law concurs.

Janet

+++++

Powell case leaves family fractured
Published: December 7, 2010 04:20PM
Updated: March 23, 2011 12:24AM

 
<snipped>

Susan Powell said her father-in-law belittled her and pressured his son not to attend Mormon church services, said Josh Powell’s sister, Jennifer Graves, in a Friday interview. In the weeks leading up to Susan’s disappearance, Josh and his father spent hours on the phone several times a week, Graves said, and the couple’s strained relationship grew worse.

<snipped>

“I think Steve knows everything by now and has chosen to help cover it up. Whether or not he was involved before and during the fact, I’m not sure,” said Kirk Graves.

<snipped>

http://**/csp/cms/sites/sltrib/pages/printerfriendly.csp?id=50818007


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 29, 2011, 11:22:47 AM
I wonder what Josh's psychiatric exam is going to show?  Some of what he says is just ???  He has an answer or explanation for everything, but some most of it sounds havey-cavey to me.  How can you tell Josh Powell is lying?  Wait for it....Yessss!!!  When his lips are moving!!!

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391572/Judge-grants-temporary-custody-of-Powell-children-to-their-maternal-grandparents.html?pg=2

Some things from the article that caught my eye:
 ::snipping2::
It was also a ruling that seemed to take Powell by surprise, as he said in court: "I was expecting to bring my sons home. I had no reason to believe they would not come back with me."
 ::snipping2::
Long also told the judge that Josh Powell has admitted that he takes photos of people's legs in public without their knowledge. Long also talked about a poster of a woman found inside the house with a knife stuck through her.
But Josh Powell denied the allegations and had an answer for each accusation. He said the photos of legs were for marketing purposes but he wasn't allowed to show faces. He said the nudity was because when police showed up at the door with a search warrant, he didn't have time to get dressed. "My brother is a decent, modest person," he said.

Powell also argued there was no reason for anyone to believe his sons would be at risk in his home. "My sons are safe, they have everything they need. They have all of their needs met."
 ::snipping2::
Powell again denied having anything to do with his wife's disappearance two years ago.

"I did not kill my wife. I love my wife. I know my wife loves my children. I want my wife back as much as anyone else could possibly want her back," he said, wearing his wedding band in court Wednesday. "I have not been charged, I have not been arrested with any crime. I do not believe there is any evidence to say that I was involved."
 ::snipping2::
"I have had nothing to do with any kind of illegal pornography," he said. "I have no concern about anything on my computers."

In fact, Josh Powell said he had no knowledge of his father's appetite for porn, otherwise he said he would have taken his children out of the home.

"I had no indication there was any problem. There was no visible sign there was any problem. There was no reason to believe there would be a problem," he said. "I have never gone digging through my father's personal belongings. I had no reason to believe there could have been a problem in that regard. I would have acted immediately."
 ::snipping2::
He also offered to move out and have his sister obtain temporary custody of his children. Mostly, Josh Powell said he was opposed to the idea of having custody given to his in-laws.

"I'm here for the best interest of my sons, and I believe ... they should come home with me," he told the court. "I have done everything to protect them from every threat."
 ::snipping2::


Josh Powell has said he took his boys, then 2 and 4, on a late night camping trip in freezing temperatures the day his wife disappeared from their West Valley City home in December of 2009. West Valley police continue to call him a person of interest in the case because they say he has not been cooperative with them.





Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: 4 Donks on September 29, 2011, 11:29:26 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/susan-powell-case-inside-powell-family-home-14631252

Screen captures of Powell home from the video

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/powell3.jpg)
(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/powell2.jpg)
(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/powell1.jpg)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cadillac on September 29, 2011, 11:54:38 AM
wow - there are no words to describe that home IMO.

Where was Susan's support group I wonder. 

She lived a nighmare.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 29, 2011, 12:06:53 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/susan-powell-case-inside-powell-family-home-14631252

Screen captures of Powell home from the video

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/powell3.jpg)
(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/powell2.jpg)
(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/powell1.jpg)

So, the hangman's noose was once part of an exercise rope and is now "part of an art display". 

In reply to the State Prosecutor's statement at the custody trial that "the Father (Josh)admits he takes pictures of people's body parts without their knowledge", Josh Powell said " I certainly do not take any photos of any person's body parts". 



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 29, 2011, 01:17:05 PM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Susan-Powell-case-is-at-a-tipping-point/UKndT35q0kSO43n678Qesw.cspx

Susan Powell case is at a "tipping point"
Updated: 7:09 pm | Published: 6:50 pm

SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) – West Valley City has spent more than $500 thousand dollars on the Susan Powell case, but Mayor Mike Winder says it’s paying off. "We feel that we are getting to that tipping point where we have more hot evidence than we have had in the past two years."

Mayor Mike Winder says that includes trailers full of evidence from both the Powell residence in Washington and the most resent search of the Topaz mountain area. "We have bones, we have charred clothing, we have charred wood, with what the cadaver dogs are excited about, and that we are doing DNA analysis on."

He says that analysis could take up to three months. "Are they ancient items? Are they relatively recent? Are they related to this case? That is what we will look to find out."

 ::snipping2::


This was the first time we heard that the searchers have found more than "charred wood."

When the initial reports came out, they kept quiet about the "bones and charred clothing."

Whether the site was an old burial for natives, or more recent... it was indeed a grave, not a fire pit for warming up campers, or for someone in need of a crematorium for a dead pet.

He mentioned that they searched Ely and the area where Josh claimed to have gone camping because of evidence. I am wondering if they were working with Steve's maps and notes he left Sandy.

Whatever they have, he said that they have more than all of us armchair detectives know.

Just wish they would throw us a bone.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 29, 2011, 01:29:21 PM
So, the hangman's noose was once part of an exercise rope and is now "part of an art display". 
In reply to the State Prosecutor's statement at the custody trial that "the Father (Josh)admits he takes pictures of people's body parts without their knowledge", Josh Powell said " I certainly do not take any photos of any person's body parts". 

Legs are body parts.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 29, 2011, 01:42:06 PM
What is that thing hanging beside the rope?  It looks like a strange rubber chicken or a human pinata.

 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on September 29, 2011, 02:51:09 PM
I watched the  GMA video and saw the shots posted.

I have no words to describe the living conditions of that
home. Not hoarders, just plain pigs !



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 29, 2011, 04:38:51 PM
What is that thing hanging beside the rope?  It looks like a strange rubber chicken or a human pinata.

 ::MonkeyEek::

OMG, I was thinking the same thing earlier (huge rubber featherless naked chicken, lol) then decided it is a crudely made dinosaur??
The room looks like a cross between a Hoarder's place and one of those online game rooms where you have to find stuff...   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 29, 2011, 04:40:22 PM
Bunch of freakssssssss!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 29, 2011, 05:10:57 PM
What is that thing hanging beside the rope?  It looks like a strange rubber chicken or a human pinata.

 ::MonkeyEek::

OMG, I was thinking the same thing earlier (huge rubber featherless naked chicken, lol) then decided it is a crudely made dinosaur??
The room looks like a cross between a Hoarder's place and one of those online game rooms where you have to find stuff...   ::MonkeyEek::

That thing hanging beside the rope looked like a very crudely made female figure to me. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 29, 2011, 05:46:02 PM
Missing Utah mom: Amid suspicions, husband loses custody of 2 sons
September 29, 2011 | 11:45 am

 
The husband of a missing Utah woman has temporarily lost custody of their two young boys after authorities again voiced their suspicions that he is responsible for Susan Powell's 2009 disappearance.

Tacoma, Wash., Judge Kathryn Nelson granted temporary custody Wednesday of the boys, ages 4 and 6, to Susan Powell's parents, Chuck and Judy Cox. The judge said Josh Powell -- who has been living at his father's home in Washington state with his two sons -- would have visitation rights.

Susan Powell vanished in 2009. Her husband denies any wrongdoing and has not been charged, but law enforcement officers say he has been uncooperative and describe him as the only person of interest in the case.

“It leads the state to believe that he is responsible for her disappearance," prosecutor John Long told the court this week.

<snipped>

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2011/09/missing-utah-mom-husband-and-key-suspect-loses-custody.html




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 29, 2011, 05:51:05 PM
My heart breaks regarding the environment that those two little boys were forced to reside since the disappearance of their mother.  What has been revealed ... that "home" was a literal house of horrors.

Janet
 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 29, 2011, 05:52:19 PM
Thanks to all for the images, research, insights and updates.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 29, 2011, 06:13:24 PM
My heart breaks regarding the environment that those two little boys were forced to reside since the disappearance of their mother.  What has been revealed ... that "home" was a literal house of horrors.

Janet
 
::rhino::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 29, 2011, 07:09:11 PM
What is that thing hanging beside the rope?  It looks like a strange rubber chicken or a human pinata.

 ::MonkeyEek::

OMG, I was thinking the same thing earlier (huge rubber featherless naked chicken, lol) then decided it is a crudely made dinosaur??
The room looks like a cross between a Hoarder's place and one of those online game rooms where you have to find stuff...   ::MonkeyEek::

That thing hanging beside the rope looked like a very crudely made female figure to me. 

That's what I thought too Muffy.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 29, 2011, 07:19:01 PM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Susan-Powell-case-is-at-a-tipping-point/UKndT35q0kSO43n678Qesw.cspx

Susan Powell case is at a "tipping point"
Updated: 7:09 pm | Published: 6:50 pm

SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) – West Valley City has spent more than $500 thousand dollars on the Susan Powell case, but Mayor Mike Winder says it’s paying off. "We feel that we are getting to that tipping point where we have more hot evidence than we have had in the past two years."

Mayor Mike Winder says that includes trailers full of evidence from both the Powell residence in Washington and the most resent search of the Topaz mountain area. "We have bones, we have charred clothing, we have charred wood, with what the cadaver dogs are excited about, and that we are doing DNA analysis on."

He says that analysis could take up to three months. "Are they ancient items? Are they relatively recent? Are they related to this case? That is what we will look to find out."

 ::snipping2::


This was the first time we heard that the searchers have found more than "charred wood."

When the initial reports came out, they kept quiet about the "bones and charred clothing."

Whether the site was an old burial for natives, or more recent... it was indeed a grave, not a fire pit for warming up campers, or for someone in need of a crematorium for a dead pet.

He mentioned that they searched Ely and the area where Josh claimed to have gone camping because of evidence. I am wondering if they were working with Steve's maps and notes he left Sandy.

Whatever they have, he said that they have more than all of us armchair detectives know.

Just wish they would throw us a bone.



Hi Moosee..I actually thought when they first came out they said they had what they thought was a grave of sorts and had archeologist examine it to see if it was older then 1950 or something like that.  They also alluded to having other evidence..then quickly backtracked. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 29, 2011, 07:23:04 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/susan-powell-mystery-father-worried-remains-daughter/story?id=14525301
Susan Powell Mystery: Father Worried Remains Are His Daughter
September 15, 2011

The father of missing Utah woman Susan Powell said that the more he learns about human remains found in a rural desert, the more worried he is that they could be his daughter.

Investigators found human remains Wednesday in the rugged area near Topaz Mountain, a popular campsite 30 miles from the campsite to where Josh Powell says he took his children Dec. 6, 2009, when his wife mysteriously disappeared."It does bother me that it's in the same general area, and the more I learn about the location, the more it bothers me," Susan Powell's father, Chuck Cox, said.

Still, Cox holds out hope that his daughter, who was 28 when she disappeared, is still alive.

"They have not identified these as her remains yet. She could still be out there, maybe alive," Cox said. Susan Powell's husband has not been charged in his wife's disappearance but remains the only person of interest. Police said that Josh Powell has been uncooperative with investigators.
 ::snipping2::
Josh Powell, 35, released a statement after the discovery of the remains that read, "With very little information available to the public, we can only hope that additional information is released quickly to minimize heartache to those of us who love Susan. In the meantime, we continue to hope for Susan's safe return."

Powell says he has never been to the area where the remains were found. The area is a popular place where people go to hunt for gems and stones.
 ::snipping2::
Investigators are working to identify the gender and age of the remains.
Video at Link


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 29, 2011, 07:38:13 PM
but then they redacted and said no remains found......no??


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 29, 2011, 07:58:21 PM
but then they redacted and said no remains found......no??

THE REMAINS?

The Original Story

Police give 50-50 chance remains are Susan Powell's
By Shara Park and Randall Jeppesen
September 15th, 2011 @ 5:12pm


DELTA — Investigators who discovered human remains near Topaz Mountain now say there's a 50-50 chance they have discovered the final resting place of missing West Valley mother Susan Cox Powell.

The remains appear to be "fairly recent," an anthropologist with the Fillmore office of the Bureau of Land Management said Thursday. That could mean the remains have been in the Juab County desert anywhere from a few weeks to over a decade.

"This is not going to be an ancient burial site. It's not going to be a cowboy from the West," said West Valley Police Lt. Bill Merritt.

The remains were found in a pile of dirt that was obviously a disturbed shallow gravesite, said West Valley Police Chief Buzz Nielsen.

They also do not yet know whether the body was male or female, but Merritt said there was a 50-50 chance it was Powell.

"It's something that's going to be interesting," he said.

<snipped>

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=1070&sid=17254003


The Changing Story

September 16, 2011 10:10 AM
Police in Susan Powell missing case say "50/50" chance remains could be found


(CBS/KIRO/AP) JUAB COUNTY, Utah - A search in the Utah desert for missing woman Susan Powell took a strange turn Thursday when the site that authorities said contained human remains turned up no body parts, but a police lieutenant said he thought there was a "50/50" chance Powell's remains could be found there.

Cadaver dogs discovered the location this week amid a renewed search for Powell and investigators declared that they had found human remains.

But CBS affiliate KIRO reported that about 2 feet of dirt had been excavated and no bones were found. Police did not say why they earlier stated that they had found human remains when they had not even seen any.

"Right now, we haven't found anything except for these scents that these dogs are picking up," West Valley City Police Lt. Bill Merritt told KIRO-TV. "We have not come across bones."

Because the site is on government land, a federal anthropologist was brought in to examine the site Thursday to see if it was part of an ancient burial ground. Investigators then began sifting through what was described as a shallow grave as they searched for clues but had so far found nothing.

Investigators previously said that a federal anthropologist had determined the remains found in a remote area of central Utah were not ancient, but instead were much more recent.

<snipped>

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20107241-504083.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: texasmom on September 29, 2011, 08:03:14 PM
Bunch of freakssssssss!

 ::rhino::

There's no telling what those little boys have seen and/or been taught by this point.  I hope and pray they are out of that house for good. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: theboyzmom on September 29, 2011, 09:01:54 PM
What is that thing hanging beside the rope?  It looks like a strange rubber chicken or a human pinata.

 ::MonkeyEek::

OMG, I was thinking the same thing earlier (huge rubber featherless naked chicken, lol) then decided it is a crudely made dinosaur??
The room looks like a cross between a Hoarder's place and one of those online game rooms where you have to find stuff...   ::MonkeyEek::

That thing hanging beside the rope looked like a very crudely made female figure to me. 

That was my first thought also.  I asked my hubs and he thought a rubber suit for a doll. Either way it looks humanoid to me. Sick.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 29, 2011, 09:06:50 PM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=17458098

Therapist says Powell sons will need help coping with changes

Well, being with the grandparents they'll finally receive some counseling and support.  I don't believe their father bothered with any type of counseling or therapy.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 29, 2011, 09:10:49 PM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-wvc-police-chief-says-susan-powell-search-nearing-resolution-20110929,0,4362818.story

WVC Police chief says Susan Powell search nearing resolution

Quote
West Valley City Police Chief Buzz Nielsen talked with FOX 13 news about the Susan Cox Powell investigation and says he believes they are nearing a resolution in the case.

"We're right at the point now where, I'm just really optimistic. Things are going to move, we just have other things that are popping and going and moving,” said Nielsen.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 29, 2011, 09:18:50 PM
What is that thing hanging beside the rope?  It looks like a strange rubber chicken or a human pinata.

 ::MonkeyEek::

OMG, I was thinking the same thing earlier (huge rubber featherless naked chicken, lol) then decided it is a crudely made dinosaur??
The room looks like a cross between a Hoarder's place and one of those online game rooms where you have to find stuff...   ::MonkeyEek::

That thing hanging beside the rope looked like a very crudely made female figure to me. 

That was my first thought also.  I asked my hubs and he thought a rubber suit for a doll. Either way it looks humanoid to me. Sick.

I wonder if it's paper mache'? 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on September 29, 2011, 11:51:58 PM
http://**/sltrib/news/52657756-78/powell-josh-steve-noose.html.csp

Image emerges of noose cited in Susan Powell kids custody case
By brooke adams
The Salt Lake Tribune
First published 40 minutes ago
Updated 39 minutes ago

 ::snipping2::

The short clip begins in a darkened hallway at the top of a staircase and then enters what appears to be a lighted storage room. The camera focuses on a wood frame leaning against a shelf packed with books and other items. A noose-like rope dangles over the frame; next to it hangs what appears to be a papier-mâché figure.

Long told Superior Court Judge Kathryn J. Nelson discovery of the "hangman’s noose" added to the state’s concerns about the "environment" at the Puyallup, Wash., home the children shared with Josh Powell, husband of the missing woman, and other relatives.

 ::snipping2::

Josh Powell told the judge Wednesday the rope was a makeshift handle for a piece of exercise equipment.

"And now it’s part of an art display," said Boudreau, who attributed the new description to the Powell family.

Neither Josh Powell nor his siblings, John and Alina, who also live in home, speak or are seen in the brief clip.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 30, 2011, 12:30:58 AM
It looks like it has white cloth wings and little hands with fingers.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q311/KittyMom5/Scared%20Monkeys/susanpowell.jpg)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 30, 2011, 06:11:15 AM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-wvc-police-chief-says-susan-powell-search-nearing-resolution-20110929,0,4362818.story
WVC Police chief says Susan Powell search nearing resolution
Aaron Vaughn, Web Producer FOX 13 News
11:01 p.m. MDT, September 29, 2011
WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah—

Video at link.
West Valley City Police Chief Buzz Nielsen talked with FOX 13 news about the Susan Cox Powell investigation and says he believes they are nearing a resolution in the case.

"We're right at the point now where, I'm just really optimistic. Things are going to move, we just have other things that are popping and going and moving,” said Nielsen.

Nielson says since the start of the investigation in December of 2009, Susan’s husband Josh Powell has essentially impeded the investigation.

"From that point on he has not helped us, talked to us, responded or anything," says the chief.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 30, 2011, 06:26:51 AM
omg please arrest the freak of the freakazoid soon


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 30, 2011, 08:38:41 AM
omg please arrest the freak of the freakazoid soon

I woke up this morning and this is one of the first threads I came to, checking in hopes that Josh Powell has been arrested. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 30, 2011, 08:58:02 AM
I was hoping that once Steven Powell of out of the home, the other siblings might start talking.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on September 30, 2011, 09:49:11 AM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-wvc-police-chief-says-susan-powell-search-nearing-resolution-20110929,0,4362818.story
WVC Police chief says Susan Powell search nearing resolution
Aaron Vaughn, Web Producer FOX 13 News
11:01 p.m. MDT, September 29, 2011
WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah—

Video at link.
West Valley City Police Chief Buzz Nielsen talked with FOX 13 news about the Susan Cox Powell investigation and says he believes they are nearing a resolution in the case.

"We're right at the point now where, I'm just really optimistic. Things are going to move, we just have other things that are popping and going and moving,” said Nielsen.

Nielson says since the start of the investigation in December of 2009, Susan’s husband Josh Powell has essentially impeded the investigation.

"From that point on he has not helped us, talked to us, responded or anything," says the chief.
 ::snipping2::
Thank u for posting this. I watched the video and am very optimistic now that they will solve this case.
The Chief sounds promising, and that is fine by me. I do not feel he is pacifying us at all as many have in the past.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 30, 2011, 10:30:26 AM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Susan-Powell-case-is-at-a-tipping-point/UKndT35q0kSO43n678Qesw.cspx

Susan Powell case is at a "tipping point"
Updated: 7:09 pm | Published: 6:50 pm

SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) – West Valley City has spent more than $500 thousand dollars on the Susan Powell case, but Mayor Mike Winder says it’s paying off. "We feel that we are getting to that tipping point where we have more hot evidence than we have had in the past two years."

Mayor Mike Winder says that includes trailers full of evidence from both the Powell residence in Washington and the most resent search of the Topaz mountain area. "We have bones, we have charred clothing, we have charred wood, with what the cadaver dogs are excited about, and that we are doing DNA analysis on."

He says that analysis could take up to three months. "Are they ancient items? Are they relatively recent? Are they related to this case? That is what we will look to find out."

 ::snipping2::


Why does the story regarding remains keep changed.  Why is the "mayor" commenting on evidence in the Susan Powell case.

Janet

+++++



THE REMAINS?

The Original Story

Police give 50-50 chance remains are Susan Powell's
By Shara Park and Randall Jeppesen
September 15th, 2011 @ 5:12pm


DELTA — Investigators who discovered human remains near Topaz Mountain now say there's a 50-50 chance they have discovered the final resting place of missing West Valley mother Susan Cox Powell.

The remains appear to be "fairly recent," an anthropologist with the Fillmore office of the Bureau of Land Management said Thursday. That could mean the remains have been in the Juab County desert anywhere from a few weeks to over a decade.

"This is not going to be an ancient burial site. It's not going to be a cowboy from the West," said West Valley Police Lt. Bill Merritt.

The remains were found in a pile of dirt that was obviously a disturbed shallow gravesite, said West Valley Police Chief Buzz Nielsen.

They also do not yet know whether the body was male or female, but Merritt said there was a 50-50 chance it was Powell.

"It's something that's going to be interesting," he said.

<snipped>

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=1070&sid=17254003


The Changing Story

September 16, 2011 10:10 AM
Police in Susan Powell missing case say "50/50" chance remains could be found


(CBS/KIRO/AP) JUAB COUNTY, Utah - A search in the Utah desert for missing woman Susan Powell took a strange turn Thursday when the site that authorities said contained human remains turned up no body parts, but a police lieutenant said he thought there was a "50/50" chance Powell's remains could be found there.

Cadaver dogs discovered the location this week amid a renewed search for Powell and investigators declared that they had found human remains.

But CBS affiliate KIRO reported that about 2 feet of dirt had been excavated and no bones were found. Police did not say why they earlier stated that they had found human remains when they had not even seen any.

"Right now, we haven't found anything except for these scents that these dogs are picking up," West Valley City Police Lt. Bill Merritt told KIRO-TV. "We have not come across bones."

Because the site is on government land, a federal anthropologist was brought in to examine the site Thursday to see if it was part of an ancient burial ground. Investigators then began sifting through what was described as a shallow grave as they searched for clues but had so far found nothing.

Investigators previously said that a federal anthropologist had determined the remains found in a remote area of central Utah were not ancient, but instead were much more recent.

<snipped>

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20107241-504083.html



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 30, 2011, 10:34:16 AM
I am praying that they arrest Josh soon atleast on the possible porn charges.  That way he would be in jail and unable to threaten the Cox family or coherse the boys.  I just want that man locked up for something sooner then latter now that the boys have been removed from his home.

I really believe they have found bones, charred clothing and the DNA on the campfire wood.  I hope this brings a close to the case and Josh can be put away where he can't be an influence on those children anylonger and can not remarry and hurt someone else.

They are such a freakishly disturbed family driven at the helm by Steve and Josh following in his footsteps.

What a hell hole those little boys lived in...


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 30, 2011, 10:43:10 AM
If the State was so concerned over the "environment" that these two little boys lived in why did it take a month following the search for the apprehension rather than immediately.

Janet

+++++


Photo of Powell ‘noose’; More porn allegations emerge
First published Sep 29 2011 08:56PM
Updated 4 minutes ago


Hangman’s noose, exercise equipment handle — or art object?

That latest description of a knotted rope apparently came hours after it was referenced in a custody court hearing for the children of missing Utah mother Susan Powell.

In a story that aired Thursday morning, ABC News correspondent Abbie Boudreau said "overnight ABC News got exclusive access to the home where Josh Powell lived with his two young sons."

Inside, she said the station got a "glimpse" of what Asst. Attorney General John Long referred to in a Pierce County, Wash. courtroom Wednesday as a "hangman’s noose."

The short clip begins in a darkened hallway at the top of a staircase and then enters what appears to be a lighted storage room. The camera focuses on a wood frame leaning against a shelf packed with books and other items. A noose-like rope dangles over the frame; next to it hangs what appears to be a papier-mâché figure.

Long told Superior Court Judge Kathryn J. Nelson discovery of the "hangman’s noose" added to the state’s concerns about the "environment" at the Puyallup, Wash., home the children shared with Josh Powell, husband of the missing woman, and other relatives.

<snipped>

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 30, 2011, 10:48:14 AM
I am praying that they arrest Josh soon atleast on the possible porn charges.  That way he would be in jail and unable to threaten the Cox family or coherse the boys.  I just want that man locked up for something sooner then latter now that the boys have been removed from his home.

I really believe they have found bones, charred clothing and the DNA on the campfire wood.  I hope this brings a close to the case and Josh can be put away where he can't be an influence on those children anylonger and can not remarry and hurt someone else.

They are such a freakishly disturbed family driven at the helm by Steve and Josh following in his footsteps.

What a hell hole those little boys lived in...


I agree.  It breaks my heart.

Gypsy ... I too am afraid for the safety those boys and their grandparents.  Josh's think is warped.

Janet



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 30, 2011, 10:58:33 AM
If the State was so concerned over the "environment" that these two little boys lived in why did it take a month following the search for the apprehension rather than immediately.

Janet

+++++


Photo of Powell ‘noose’; More porn allegations emerge
First published Sep 29 2011 08:56PM
Updated 4 minutes ago


Hangman’s noose, exercise equipment handle — or art object?

That latest description of a knotted rope apparently came hours after it was referenced in a custody court hearing for the children of missing Utah mother Susan Powell.

In a story that aired Thursday morning, ABC News correspondent Abbie Boudreau said "overnight ABC News got exclusive access to the home where Josh Powell lived with his two young sons."

Inside, she said the station got a "glimpse" of what Asst. Attorney General John Long referred to in a Pierce County, Wash. courtroom Wednesday as a "hangman’s noose."

The short clip begins in a darkened hallway at the top of a staircase and then enters what appears to be a lighted storage room. The camera focuses on a wood frame leaning against a shelf packed with books and other items. A noose-like rope dangles over the frame; next to it hangs what appears to be a papier-mâché figure.

Long told Superior Court Judge Kathryn J. Nelson discovery of the "hangman’s noose" added to the state’s concerns about the "environment" at the Puyallup, Wash., home the children shared with Josh Powell, husband of the missing woman, and other relatives.

<snipped>

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You know what else bother's me..ABC got exclusive access to the house..how much did they pay Josh or his father or siblings for that exclusive access..meaning the pictures?   

I ask that because we have found throught the Caylee A 3 year investigation that ABC was one of the biggest payers to both Casey and her parents for the rights to pics, etc...just makes me sick.

I wish ABC would just stop paying alledged criminals for the rights to pictures....it just doesn't sit well with me.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 30, 2011, 11:00:07 AM
If the State was so concerned over the "environment" that these two little boys lived in why did it take a month following the search for the apprehension rather than immediately.

Janet

+++++


Photo of Powell ‘noose’; More porn allegations emerge
First published Sep 29 2011 08:56PM
Updated 4 minutes ago


Hangman’s noose, exercise equipment handle — or art object?

That latest description of a knotted rope apparently came hours after it was referenced in a custody court hearing for the children of missing Utah mother Susan Powell.

In a story that aired Thursday morning, ABC News correspondent Abbie Boudreau said "overnight ABC News got exclusive access to the home where Josh Powell lived with his two young sons."

Inside, she said the station got a "glimpse" of what Asst. Attorney General John Long referred to in a Pierce County, Wash. courtroom Wednesday as a "hangman’s noose."

The short clip begins in a darkened hallway at the top of a staircase and then enters what appears to be a lighted storage room. The camera focuses on a wood frame leaning against a shelf packed with books and other items. A noose-like rope dangles over the frame; next to it hangs what appears to be a papier-mâché figure.

Long told Superior Court Judge Kathryn J. Nelson discovery of the "hangman’s noose" added to the state’s concerns about the "environment" at the Puyallup, Wash., home the children shared with Josh Powell, husband of the missing woman, and other relatives.

<snipped>

**/sltrib/mobile/52657756-78/powell-josh-steve-noose.html.csp
 



You know what else bother's me..ABC got exclusive access to the house..how much did they pay Josh or his father or siblings for that exclusive access..meaning the pictures?   

I ask that because we have found throught thru out the Caylee Anthony 3 year investigation that ABC was one of the biggest payers to both Casey and her parents for the rights to pics, etc...just makes me sick.

I wish ABC would just stop paying alledged criminals for the rights to pictures....it just doesn't sit well with me.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 30, 2011, 11:12:51 AM
If the State was so concerned over the "environment" that these two little boys lived in why did it take a month following the search for the apprehension rather than immediately.

Janet

+++++


Photo of Powell ‘noose’; More porn allegations emerge
First published Sep 29 2011 08:56PM
Updated 4 minutes ago


Hangman’s noose, exercise equipment handle — or art object?

That latest description of a knotted rope apparently came hours after it was referenced in a custody court hearing for the children of missing Utah mother Susan Powell.

In a story that aired Thursday morning, ABC News correspondent Abbie Boudreau said "overnight ABC News got exclusive access to the home where Josh Powell lived with his two young sons."

Inside, she said the station got a "glimpse" of what Asst. Attorney General John Long referred to in a Pierce County, Wash. courtroom Wednesday as a "hangman’s noose."

The short clip begins in a darkened hallway at the top of a staircase and then enters what appears to be a lighted storage room. The camera focuses on a wood frame leaning against a shelf packed with books and other items. A noose-like rope dangles over the frame; next to it hangs what appears to be a papier-mâché figure.

Long told Superior Court Judge Kathryn J. Nelson discovery of the "hangman’s noose" added to the state’s concerns about the "environment" at the Puyallup, Wash., home the children shared with Josh Powell, husband of the missing woman, and other relatives.

<snipped>

**/sltrib/mobile/52657756-78/powell-josh-steve-noose.html.csp
 



You know what else bother's me..ABC got exclusive access to the house..how much did they pay Josh or his father or siblings for that exclusive access..meaning the pictures?    

I ask that because we have found throught the Caylee A 3 year investigation that ABC was one of the biggest payers to both Casey and her parents for the rights to pics, etc...just makes me sick.

I wish ABC would just stop paying alledged criminals for the rights to pictures ....it just doesn't sit well with me.

 ::rhino::



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 30, 2011, 11:22:39 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/susan-powell-case-inside-powell-family-home-14631252

Screen captures of Powell home from the video

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/powell3.jpg)
(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/powell2.jpg)
(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/powell1.jpg)

Look closely at the picture posted with the hangman's noose.  Doesn't it look like a coat hanger wrapped in brownish twine or some material and is hooked onto the front of the noose?  See the hook part that would go over a closet bar?  See the triangle shape of what I think looks like a coat hangar?  It's thin looking, maybe a metal clothes hanger...  Why?  Hangman's noose with coat hanger and a papier mache' female figure.  I remember a time some women used a coat hanger in a time of desperation.  That's all I'm going to say about that, but it strikes me as very suspect in this case and very eerie. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 30, 2011, 11:45:56 AM
If this one room is any indication of the rest of the home, I'm surprised that it only took one trailer to haul away all the crap.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Mary on September 30, 2011, 12:41:15 PM
Maybe I am confused, When Josh gets visitation with the boys, I know the Cox family is
there, but will there be any safety provisions, that the boys won't be alone with their father
even for bathroom breaks. I'm a little afraid of what Josh will do, I don't think he is playing
with a full deck.?????


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on September 30, 2011, 01:07:18 PM
Maybe I am confused, When Josh gets visitation with the boys, I know the Cox family is
there, but will there be any safety provisions, that the boys won't be alone with their father
even for bathroom breaks. I'm a little afraid of what Josh will do, I don't think he is playing
with a full deck.?????

Sounds incredibly paranoid but I'd be scared if my kids were in the same class or school as the 6yr old. JP seems desperate and unbalanced so I mean it, I really hope the PD is watching his every move.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: wildmala on September 30, 2011, 02:17:13 PM
Maybe I am confused, When Josh gets visitation with the boys, I know the Cox family is
there, but will there be any safety provisions, that the boys won't be alone with their father
even for bathroom breaks. I'm a little afraid of what Josh will do, I don't think he is playing
with a full deck.?????

My guess would be that all visitations would be a visitation facility that is monitored.  We have one locally here.  It's kind of like a 'safe place' for all to meet for visitation.  Should the guardians of the child need to leave the room for any purpose, there is a volunteer that is brought in to sit in their place until they return.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: wildmala on September 30, 2011, 02:18:38 PM
If this one room is any indication of the rest of the home, I'm surprised that it only took one trailer to haul away all the crap.

My thoughts, as well.  Looks like an episode of 'Hoarders'!  Are these pics from the main floor of the home or the basement?  I can see a basement with stuff stacked up like this...but in the every day living area...how can that be a safe environment for a child?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: yuknomenot on September 30, 2011, 03:38:24 PM
It looks like it has white cloth wings and little hands with fingers.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q311/KittyMom5/Scared%20Monkeys/susanpowell.jpg)
It looks like that winged thing, whatever it is, also has a pointed tail. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 30, 2011, 03:47:51 PM
It appears that supervised visitation as been scheduled to take place while the grandparents are at church.

Janet

+++++

Judge rules Powell kids must remain in state custody
First published Sep 28 2011 10:04AM
Updated Sep 29, 2011 08:06AM


<snipped>
 
The judge agreed that Josh Powell will have three-hour, supervised visits with his sons on Sundays. That day was picked after he objected to his sons attending church services with the Coxes, who are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

<snipped>

http://**/sltrib/news/52651411-78/powell-hearing-court-wednesday.html.csp




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: labubske on September 30, 2011, 04:04:01 PM
The paper creature reminds me of something recent.  It looks like a prehistoric flying dinosaur character.  I know that I have seen these somewhere...I just couldn't find a picture.  A pegasaurus I believe...but this particular one is seen somewhere.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: meshuggener on September 30, 2011, 04:26:27 PM
The paper creature reminds me of something recent.  It looks like a prehistoric flying dinosaur character.  I know that I have seen these somewhere...I just couldn't find a picture.  A pegasaurus I believe...but this particular one is seen somewhere.


ET phoning home?  Looks like something possibly used as a prop for a  kindergarden play maybe?  I thought of a dinosaur also.
Edit to fix quote.  MB


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 30, 2011, 05:38:12 PM
Pterodactyl


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: wildmala on September 30, 2011, 07:27:24 PM
I was trying to figure out what it reminded me of too.  I reminded me of this little toy my son got from McDonalds  once...  The paper one doesn't look complete compared to it though.  It's a character from Pokemon:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hytam/6114531290/


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 30, 2011, 10:41:12 PM
The ring behind it reminds me of a marionette.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 01, 2011, 12:28:29 PM
Detective offers support to children of Susan Cox Powell
Published: Friday, Sept. 30, 2011 10:04 p.m. MDT


<snipped>

Berg is lead investigator of child homicides, as well as the head of the Special Assault Unit that handles sexual assault and abuse cases. Besides investigations, Berg and her fellow detectives protect for the rights of children.

Right now, that includes the Powell boys.

"It was a pretty instant bond," Berg said. "They're wonderful kids. They're smart (and) a joy to be around."

In Sept., when helicopter video showed the kids in their backyard as police served a search warrant Aug. 25, Berg was there too. But most of her work has been behind the scenes.

She will be there for court hearings, and was there when the boys were removed from their grandfather's home.

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391776/Detective-offers-support-to-children-of-Susan-Cox-Powell.html



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 01, 2011, 07:14:25 PM
My thoughts exactly!!!  Could it be that the plea deal will be two fold?  Will it also benefit Josh if he confesses all rather than take his chances with a jury?

Janet

++++

SOURCE: SUSAN POWELL PORN SICKO MAY RAT OUT “PERSON OF INTEREST” SON
Published on: September 30, 2011


Authorities believe they have the key to solving the two-year-old disappearance of Utah mom SUSAN POWELL – using the threat of 70 years in prison to force her husband’s father to rat out his son for her murder!

Susan’s father-in-law Steven Powell, 61, is behind bars after cops discovered thou­sands of lewd “Peeping Tom” photos of young girls and nude women in his home. He’s pleaded not guilty to 14 counts of voyeur­ism and child pornography. Each count carries a jail sentence of five years.

“They’ve got him dead to rights,” a source close to the in­vestigation told The ENQUIRER. “Steven Powell will die in prison, unless he can cut a deal.

“If he throws his son under the bus for Susan’s murder, he might get off with a lighter sentence.”

Susan Powell has been missing since Dec. 7, 2009, when her hus­band Josh claims he returned to their West Valley City, Utah, home from a midnight camping trip in the middle of a 10-degree snow­storm with their two young sons. Susan was gone, although her cell phone, purse and car were still at the home.

Josh refused to tell cops where he camped with the boys, then stopped cooperating with the investigation and abruptly moved to Puyallup, Wash., to live with his father Steven.

Now cops want Steven Powell to tell them everything he knows about his son’s involvement in Susan’s disappearance.

“Susan’s disappearance has left police stumped, but detectives believe Steven knows things that could blow the case wide open,” the source said.

 “They don’t know if Josh actually confessed to his father, but they believe Steven knows a lot more than he’s told them so far.”

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http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/source-susan-powell-porn-sicko-my-rat-out-person-interest-son


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on October 01, 2011, 08:40:16 PM
The only way Steven Powell would rat out his son is if its with the threat of being in general pop in prison with all the inmates knowing he's a perv.  He's got to know what his life will be like behind bars. 

But then again, the perv might find it intriguing.    ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on October 01, 2011, 08:45:54 PM
Detective offers support to children of Susan Cox Powell
Published: Friday, Sept. 30, 2011 10:04 p.m. MDT


<snipped>
<snipped>

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391776/Detective-offers-support-to-children-of-Susan-Cox-Powell.html



Quote
• Long saying 15 computers taken from home and all were available to people in the home. Investigators barely scratched surface.
Well, I'd thought that at least some of these computers were broken or junkers.  Who, has 15 working computers in their home?  I'll bet Bill Gates doesn't have 15 working computers in his home. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on October 02, 2011, 09:38:41 AM
http://**/sltrib/news/52665446-78/powell-josh-judge-child.html.csp (http://**/sltrib/news/52665446-78/powell-josh-judge-child.html.csp)

What must Josh Powell do to get his sons back?

By Brooke Adams

The Salt Lake Tribune
First published Oct 01 2011 04:18PM
Updated Oct 1, 2011 11:24PM

With his children now in the custody of their maternal grandparents, there is only one way for Josh Powell to get them back, says one national child welfare expert: Law enforcement must clear him as a person of interest in the disappearance of his wife, Susan, and of any participation in his father’s alleged illegal activities.

“I can’t think of anything that would prompt the court to give the children back to him while that exists,” said Richard Wexler, executive director of the National Coalition for Child Protection Reform based in Alexandria, Va.

A Pierce County Superior Court judge decided Wednesday that the boys, ages 6 and 4, will remain temporarily with Chuck and Judy Cox, parents of missing Utah mom Susan Cox Powell.

The children had been living with Josh Powell, Susan’s husband, since her disappearance on Dec. 7, 2009. Police have so far named only Josh Powell as a person of interest in his wife’s case, though they say others are being considered.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 02, 2011, 11:11:44 AM
October 1, 2011 5:01 am ET
Item Called 'Hangman's Noose' by AG Found in Home of Josh Powell, Husband of Missing Woman Susan Powell..Video

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/SusanPowell.jpg)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 02, 2011, 11:12:34 AM
October 1, 2011 5:01 am ET
Item Called 'Hangman's Noose' by AG Found in Home of Josh Powell, Husband of Missing Woman Susan Powell..Video

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/SusanPowell.jpg)

The link..
http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/item-called-hangman-s-noose-by-ag-found-home-of-josh-powell-husband-of-missing-woman-susan-powell-video


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on October 02, 2011, 02:33:54 PM
http://**/sltrib/news/52665446-78/powell-josh-judge-child.html.csp (http://**/sltrib/news/52665446-78/powell-josh-judge-child.html.csp)

What must Josh Powell do to get his sons back?

By Brooke Adams

The Salt Lake Tribune
First published Oct 01 2011 04:18PM
Updated Oct 1, 2011 11:24PM

With his children now in the custody of their maternal grandparents, there is only one way for Josh Powell to get them back, says one national child welfare expert: Law enforcement must clear him as a person of interest in the disappearance of his wife, Susan, and of any participation in his father’s alleged illegal activities.

“I can’t think of anything that would prompt the court to give the children back to him while that exists,” said Richard Wexler, executive director of the National Coalition for Child Protection Reform based in Alexandria, Va.

A Pierce County Superior Court judge decided Wednesday that the boys, ages 6 and 4, will remain temporarily with Chuck and Judy Cox, parents of missing Utah mom Susan Cox Powell.

The children had been living with Josh Powell, Susan’s husband, since her disappearance on Dec. 7, 2009. Police have so far named only Josh Powell as a person of interest in his wife’s case, though they say others are being considered.
 ::snipping2::
That's going to be a tall order for JP, clearing himself as a POI  and proving he had no knowledge of daddy perv's activities.  ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on October 03, 2011, 05:55:45 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391864/Statement-from-Chuck-Coxs-sister-released-in-custody-case.html (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391864/Statement-from-Chuck-Coxs-sister-released-in-custody-case.html)

Statement from Chuck Cox's sister released in custody case
Published: Monday, Oct. 3, 2011 2:55 p.m. MDT

By Pat Reavy, Deseret News

 ::snipping2::

Pam Cox, Chuck Cox's sister, was in the courtroom during the hearing in Tacoma, Wash.

In a statement presented to the court that was just recently made public, Pam Cox recalled an incident in March 2010 when she was at the Cox house where the two boys were visiting.

While looking at a book with the boys, there was a picture of a woman in a swimsuit who was swimming, according to court documents. One of the boys pointed to the woman's chest and said, "Mommy and (owie)."

The incident was also told to the judge by the Coxes' attorney in court during the dependency hearing.

When it was time to leave the Cox home, the boy, still sitting on Pam Cox's lap, clutched her arm "really tight and started to cry," she said in her statement.

"He didn't want to let go of my arm. I had to physically pick him up and set him on the couch," she said.

When the other boy, who had been making crafts on the kitchen table heard they were leaving, "he started scrabbling out very aggressively the pictures he made us. He then proceeded to rip them up into little pieces and cry," according to Cox's statement in court documents.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on October 03, 2011, 09:35:12 PM
Those poor babies.  That is just heartbreaking.  How many times did they cry themselves to sleep missing their mommy.

 ::MonkeyTears::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 03, 2011, 09:47:51 PM
Those poor babies.  That is just heartbreaking.  How many times did they cry themselves to sleep missing their mommy.

 ::MonkeyTears::

KittyMom

What is so sad is those precious little boys are currently crying for Daddy... the Daddy who they love unconditionally ... the Daddy who brought all this heartbreak and disruption into their innocent lives.

Janet

 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on October 04, 2011, 12:26:26 AM
Those poor babies.  That is just heartbreaking.  How many times did they cry themselves to sleep missing their mommy.

 ::MonkeyTears::

KittyMom

What is so sad is those precious little boys are currently crying for Daddy... the Daddy who they love unconditionally ... the Daddy who brought all this heartbreak and disruption into their innocent lives.

Janet

 
So, true.  Kids love their parents.  Even abused kids will lie and cover up for their parents.  That creep didn't deserve Susan and he doesn't deserve the love of those to little boys.  I hope and pray that they can stay with Susan's parents for the rest of their lives.  They deserve a least a little bit of happiness and stability.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on October 04, 2011, 10:18:08 AM
Meanwhile Friday, investigators called off their search for Susan Cox Powell, 28, near Topaz Mountain in Juab County, Utah. They have been scouring the desert for 12 days after cadaver dogs indicated the presence of human remains in the area.
 
Searchers uncovered only some charred wood debris from what at first appeared to be a shallow grave. Susan Cox Powell, a Puyallup native, was last seen in December 2009 at her home in West Valley City, Utah. Her husband, Josh Powell, has been called a person of interest in her disappearance
http://www.thenewstribune.com/2011/09/23/1836852/increasingly-bizarre-powell-saga.html
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Corrections spokesman Chad Lewis confirmed that Steven Powell was terminated Friday. Since 2006, Powell has worked for Washington State Correctional Industries, a Corrections Department division in which inmates learn trades like furniture making. The department says Powell sold classroom furniture built by inmates to Chelan County school districts.
http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/50bf64ec08be4beea0068635c51f0379/WA--Missing-Mom-Utah-Powell-Fired/
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sp route is all woodland and forest
if sp drives that route daily,maybe the LE should check on cars rented,by sp in the last 2 yrs or
his car/s,
steve powell home to work route
http://tinyurl.com/6kaqw63
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this pic looks like around the time susan went missing,a christmas bag in pic,and the boys look
about the same from the 2010 pics from news reports(sorry i cant find them now),and no wedding ring
i think thats the 3rd pic ive seen and no wedding ring
img boys and susan
http://www.truecrimereport.com/Susan-Powell-kids.jpg

josh thinking,no more smug look for josh,he looks truly worried,scared to death
http://www.truecrimereport.com/Josh-Powell.jpg


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 06, 2011, 10:46:00 AM
After reading this article where Josh Powell's mother Terrica gives such a glowing opinion of the wonders of his fatherhood, I wonder what she thinks about all the stuff Josh has accused Susan (the mother of the children) of?  If Josh is such a wonderful father, why has he lost custody of the two sons at this time?  Has Terrica seen the children much?  How does she know they are "happy, well-adjusted, vibrant children?"  Maybe Terrica should have stayed silent instead of trying to paint her son Josh as a "loving and very engaged father".  Josh may have helped teach his sons about building little projects, and she noted " He delightedly let the boys be involved in a way and at a level that was interesting and safe for them." yet he also took them out camping in the desert on a freezing cold night. At what level is that interesting and safe for two little boys?   He's trashed Susan publicly, which the boys will eventually learn about.  I wonder why Terrica is saying this now?  I don't think it's for her ex Steve.  I wonder if she's figured out it won't be long before Josh is going to jail too and she's trying to make him look better.  Terrica obviously doesn't have the interest of the care and safety of her two young grandsons in mind. She is trying to save her son. It reminds me of the Anthony's trying to portray Casey as a good mother.  JMHO ::MonkeyMad:: 

http://**/sltrib/news/52682501-78/powell-josh-wrote-alina.html.csp
Josh Powell’s mom: ‘Josh is a loving and very engaged father’
October 5, 2011

The mother of Josh Powell has broken her silence, calling her son a "loving and very engaged father" as a custody dispute over his two young sons continues to play out in the Washington legal system.

In a declaration filed recently in Pierce County Superior Court in Tacoma, Wash., Terrica Powell called her grandsons Charlie, 6, and Braden, 4, "happy, well-adjusted and vibrant children ... even though they miss their mother."
Josh has long maintained a tradition of frequent activities with the kids, such as going to the zoo, or to the park to feed the ducks, or to the museum, or to Lowe’s for the little building projects they offer for kids," Terrica Powell wrote. "In addition, I have been impressed with the extra level of care Josh takes in teaching his little boys about how things work, such as when he built a new deck for their home: He delightedly let the boys be involved in a way and at a level that was interesting and safe for them. Other examples include studying animals or learning about science together.

"I have been relieved and pleased to note how very well Charlie and Braden are doing, despite the trauma and sadness of missing their beloved mother. They seem to be continuing to thrive."
More...


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 06, 2011, 10:50:17 AM
Well, well, well.  People Magazine.  Terrica, is it about the money?  Are you choosing $$ and your creepy uncooperative with the police, person-of-interest-in-the-murder-of your-daughter-in-law son over your two young and innocent grandsons?  I wonder if Terrica is coming out now to make $$ to share with Josh?  Or is it for herself?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.people.com/people/news/category/0,,personsTax:JoshuaPowell,00.html
Josh Powell's Mother: He's a Loving Father
October 6, 2011

Terrica Powell faces family woes that few others have to endure.

And now Josh Powell's mother is lending her support to her son as he fights to regain custody of his boys – Charlie, 6, and Braden, 4 – after they were removed from the home Josh and the youngsters shared with Josh's father, Steven Powell, who was arrested Sept. 22. The boys are now living with their maternal grandparents, Chuck and Judy Cox.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 06, 2011, 11:22:43 AM
Well, well, well.  People Magazine.  Terrica, is it about the money?  Are you choosing $$ and your creepy uncooperative with the police, person-of-interest-in-the-murder-of your-daughter-in-law son over your two young and innocent grandsons?  I wonder if Terrica is coming out now to make $$ to share with Josh?  Or is it for herself?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.people.com/people/news/category/0,,personsTax:JoshuaPowell,00.html
Josh Powell's Mother: He's a Loving Father
October 6, 2011

Terrica Powell faces family woes that few others have to endure.

And now Josh Powell's mother is lending her support to her son as he fights to regain custody of his boys – Charlie, 6, and Braden, 4 – after they were removed from the home Josh and the youngsters shared with Josh's father, Steven Powell, who was arrested Sept. 22. The boys are now living with their maternal grandparents, Chuck and Judy Cox.
 ::snipping2::


I am really puzzled by this stance she is taking.  I thought I had read that she lived with her daughter and son-in-law..and they certainly have been very outspoken against Josh and Steve and very pro Susan, her family and the boys.

Do you think she is doing this because she knows he is going to jail and is afraid before they arrest him he would do her harm..if not..and I know that's a long shot..I can't for the life of me understand this woman even uttering one word in Josh or Steve's favor.....something is definitely up with that.

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 06, 2011, 11:34:56 AM
Well, well, well.  People Magazine.  Terrica, is it about the money?  Are you choosing $$ and your creepy uncooperative with the police, person-of-interest-in-the-murder-of your-daughter-in-law son over your two young and innocent grandsons?  I wonder if Terrica is coming out now to make $$ to share with Josh?  Or is it for herself?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.people.com/people/news/category/0,,personsTax:JoshuaPowell,00.html
Josh Powell's Mother: He's a Loving Father
October 6, 2011

Terrica Powell faces family woes that few others have to endure.

And now Josh Powell's mother is lending her support to her son as he fights to regain custody of his boys – Charlie, 6, and Braden, 4 – after they were removed from the home Josh and the youngsters shared with Josh's father, Steven Powell, who was arrested Sept. 22. The boys are now living with their maternal grandparents, Chuck and Judy Cox.
 ::snipping2::


I am really puzzled by this stance she is taking.  I thought I had read that she lived with her daughter and son-in-law..and they certainly have been very outspoken against Josh and Steve and very pro Susan, her family and the boys.
Do you think she is doing this because she knows he is going to jail and is afraid before they arrest him he would do her harm..if not..and I know that's a long shot..I can't for the life of me understand this woman even uttering one word in Josh or Steve's favor.....something is definitely up with that.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Gypsy ... although I have never heard Terrica Powell speak about her son ... I also thought Jennifer Graves and her were on the same page.  Something is hinky.

MuffyBee ... Terrica was most likely paid for the People interview but ... I think that whatever her position the bucks would have been forthcoming.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 06, 2011, 11:49:08 AM
Well, well, well.  People Magazine.  Terrica, is it about the money?  Are you choosing $$ and your creepy uncooperative with the police, person-of-interest-in-the-murder-of your-daughter-in-law son over your two young and innocent grandsons?  I wonder if Terrica is coming out now to make $$ to share with Josh?  Or is it for herself?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.people.com/people/news/category/0,,personsTax:JoshuaPowell,00.html
Josh Powell's Mother: He's a Loving Father
October 6, 2011

Terrica Powell faces family woes that few others have to endure.

And now Josh Powell's mother is lending her support to her son as he fights to regain custody of his boys – Charlie, 6, and Braden, 4 – after they were removed from the home Josh and the youngsters shared with Josh's father, Steven Powell, who was arrested Sept. 22. The boys are now living with their maternal grandparents, Chuck and Judy Cox.
 ::snipping2::


I am really puzzled by this stance she is taking.  I thought I had read that she lived with her daughter and son-in-law..and they certainly have been very outspoken against Josh and Steve and very pro Susan, her family and the boys.
Do you think she is doing this because she knows he is going to jail and is afraid before they arrest him he would do her harm..if not..and I know that's a long shot..I can't for the life of me understand this woman even uttering one word in Josh or Steve's favor.....something is definitely up with that.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Gypsy ... although I have never heard Terrica Powell speak about her son ... I also thought Jennifer Graves and her were on the same page.  Something is hinky.

MuffyBee ... Terrica was most likely paid for the People interview but ... I think that whatever her position the bucks would have been forthcoming.

Janet


I guess we'll find out soon what this new tactic by Terrica Powell means but I also wonder if she or Josh have been paid for photographs? 


 



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on October 06, 2011, 01:04:01 PM
Well, well, well.  People Magazine.  Terrica, is it about the money?  Are you choosing $$ and your creepy uncooperative with the police, person-of-interest-in-the-murder-of your-daughter-in-law son over your two young and innocent grandsons?  I wonder if Terrica is coming out now to make $$ to share with Josh?  Or is it for herself?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.people.com/people/news/category/0,,personsTax:JoshuaPowell,00.html
Josh Powell's Mother: He's a Loving Father
October 6, 2011

Terrica Powell faces family woes that few others have to endure.

And now Josh Powell's mother is lending her support to her son as he fights to regain custody of his boys – Charlie, 6, and Braden, 4 – after they were removed from the home Josh and the youngsters shared with Josh's father, Steven Powell, who was arrested Sept. 22. The boys are now living with their maternal grandparents, Chuck and Judy Cox.
 ::snipping2::


I am really puzzled by this stance she is taking.  I thought I had read that she lived with her daughter and son-in-law..and they certainly have been very outspoken against Josh and Steve and very pro Susan, her family and the boys.
Do you think she is doing this because she knows he is going to jail and is afraid before they arrest him he would do her harm..if not..and I know that's a long shot..I can't for the life of me understand this woman even uttering one word in Josh or Steve's favor.....something is definitely up with that.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Gypsy ... although I have never heard Terrica Powell speak about her son ... I also thought Jennifer Graves and her were on the same page.  Something is hinky.

MuffyBee ... Terrica was most likely paid for the People interview but ... I think that whatever her position the bucks would have been forthcoming.

Janet


I guess we'll find out soon what this new tactic by Terrica Powell means but I also wonder if she or Josh have been paid for photographs? 


 


A united son & mother to challenge the stable Cox grandparents?  Maybe it's out of love or guilt (by mom) or maybe Josh has a lot of unsavory info about the early family years that would/could look to seemy and ugly if told???


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 06, 2011, 02:52:51 PM
Well, well, well.  People Magazine.  Terrica, is it about the money?  Are you choosing $$ and your creepy uncooperative with the police, person-of-interest-in-the-murder-of your-daughter-in-law son over your two young and innocent grandsons?  I wonder if Terrica is coming out now to make $$ to share with Josh?  Or is it for herself?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.people.com/people/news/category/0,,personsTax:JoshuaPowell,00.html
Josh Powell's Mother: He's a Loving Father
October 6, 2011

Terrica Powell faces family woes that few others have to endure.

And now Josh Powell's mother is lending her support to her son as he fights to regain custody of his boys – Charlie, 6, and Braden, 4 – after they were removed from the home Josh and the youngsters shared with Josh's father, Steven Powell, who was arrested Sept. 22. The boys are now living with their maternal grandparents, Chuck and Judy Cox.
 ::snipping2::


I am really puzzled by this stance she is taking.  I thought I had read that she lived with her daughter and son-in-law..and they certainly have been very outspoken against Josh and Steve and very pro Susan, her family and the boys.
Do you think she is doing this because she knows he is going to jail and is afraid before they arrest him he would do her harm..if not..and I know that's a long shot..I can't for the life of me understand this woman even uttering one word in Josh or Steve's favor.....something is definitely up with that.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Gypsy ... although I have never heard Terrica Powell speak about her son ... I also thought Jennifer Graves and her were on the same page.  Something is hinky.

MuffyBee ... Terrica was most likely paid for the People interview but ... I think that whatever her position the bucks would have been forthcoming.

Janet


I guess we'll find out soon what this new tactic by Terrica Powell means but I also wonder if she or Josh have been paid for photographs?  


 



I am sure someone is being paid for photos..and someone was more then likely paid by ABC for the exclusive video home tour last week.

I am thinking this sounds like balckmail of some sort on Josh's part..but I can not fathom for what events...his sister and her husband have certainly spoken out over the months against both Josh and Steve and very much in the Cox family camp.  It just does not make any sense..if she would have badmouthed Josh and Steve she still would have gotten the same amount..if any..for the interview...so there is some reason she seems to be making these statements now..and for the life of m I can not figure why she would do that..when she herself left that home due to mistreatment.
Edit-fixed typo.  MB


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 06, 2011, 02:53:54 PM
ooops..supposed t be ABC ..not ABD..I have made up a whole new network.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 07, 2011, 04:16:50 PM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-powell-family-speak-out-in-support-opposition-of-josh-powellb-20111006,0,6013786.story
Family speak out in support, opposition of Josh Powell
October 7, 2011

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah—

The custody battle for the two sons of Josh and Susan Powell is heating up as Josh's mother and brothers speak up for the first time and Susan's parents reveal more on their daughter's marriage and disappearance.

More than one hundred pages of affidavits from both sides of the battle have been submitted. Josh's mother praises her son, his sister questions their mother's knowledge, and his in-laws describe a distant and at times threatening husband.
"In August 2008, I happened to be in Salt Lake City for my employment and had an opportunity to spend time with my daughter alone.  I attended one of her counseling sessions that were being paid for by the church. The counselor confirmed that Susan was being abused emotionally and verbally. It was at that time that I was able to convince Susan to open her own bank account," said Chuck Cox in his statement. "Mr. Powell had always threatened to divorce Susan if she ever obtained her own account."

Josh Powell did not defend his father Steven in his recent child pornography arrest.

"The recent chain of events within our family household was totally unexpected despite what the media has represented. There was no visible sign of threat to my sons. Nevertheless, I have taken and will continue to take every step possible to mitigate any future potential threat to the well-being of my sons," Josh said in a statement.

Josh also spoke of the emotional situation his family has faced in the two years since his wife's Dec. 2009 disappearance. He says that much of the media attention surrounding the case has been inaccurate.

"For almost two years now, our family and the Cox family have been involved in a very complicated and dynamic situation, which is highly emotional. There is media surrounding family and much of it is inaccurate and one-sided," said Josh. (My comment. ORLY!!  Not like Josh or Steve Powell were throwing anything out there in the media about Susan that was inaccurate and one sided!)   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Josh's sister Alina, who helped her care for the two boys, defends Josh as a father.

"After December 2009, though Josh's heart was aching he found strength to persevere through his boys' need for him. He continued pursuing the same activities the boys had come to know and love, as much as possible," Alina's declaration said.

Terri Powell, Josh's mother, whose presence in the media has been limited since Susan's disappearance, wrote in support of her son.

"In my experience, Josh is a loving and very engaged father in the care of his sons, and Charlie and Braden are happy, well-adjusted and vibrant children, even though they miss their mother," Terri wrote.

However, Jennifer Graves, Josh's estranged sister who lives with Terri, said in a statement to the media that her mother's understanding of the situation is limited.

"Understand that those opinions are based on her interaction with Josh and the boys nearly 2 years ago as she hasn't seen any of them since Josh moved to Washington a month after Susan's disappearance," Graves said.

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 08, 2011, 12:06:06 AM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-powell-family-speak-out-in-support-opposition-of-josh-powellb-20111006,0,6013786.story
Family speak out in support, opposition of Josh Powell
October 7, 2011

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah—

The custody battle for the two sons of Josh and Susan Powell is heating up as Josh's mother and brothers speak up for the first time and Susan's parents reveal more on their daughter's marriage and disappearance.

More than one hundred pages of affidavits from both sides of the battle have been submitted. Josh's mother praises her son, his sister questions their mother's knowledge, and his in-laws describe a distant and at times threatening husband.
"In August 2008, I happened to be in Salt Lake City for my employment and had an opportunity to spend time with my daughter alone.  I attended one of her counseling sessions that were being paid for by the church. The counselor confirmed that Susan was being abused emotionally and verbally. It was at that time that I was able to convince Susan to open her own bank account," said Chuck Cox in his statement. "Mr. Powell had always threatened to divorce Susan if she ever obtained her own account."

Josh Powell did not defend his father Steven in his recent child pornography arrest.

"The recent chain of events within our family household was totally unexpected despite what the media has represented. There was no visible sign of threat to my sons. Nevertheless, I have taken and will continue to take every step possible to mitigate any future potential threat to the well-being of my sons," Josh said in a statement.

Josh also spoke of the emotional situation his family has faced in the two years since his wife's Dec. 2009 disappearance. He says that much of the media attention surrounding the case has been inaccurate.

"For almost two years now, our family and the Cox family have been involved in a very complicated and dynamic situation, which is highly emotional. There is media surrounding family and much of it is inaccurate and one-sided," said Josh. (My comment. ORLY!!  Not like Josh or Steve Powell were throwing anything out there in the media about Susan that was inaccurate and one sided!)   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Josh's sister Alina, who helped her care for the two boys, defends Josh as a father.

"After December 2009, though Josh's heart was aching he found strength to persevere through his boys' need for him. He continued pursuing the same activities the boys had come to know and love, as much as possible," Alina's declaration said.

Terri Powell, Josh's mother, whose presence in the media has been limited since Susan's disappearance, wrote in support of her son.

"In my experience, Josh is a loving and very engaged father in the care of his sons, and Charlie and Braden are happy, well-adjusted and vibrant children, even though they miss their mother," Terri wrote.

However, Jennifer Graves, Josh's estranged sister who lives with Terri, said in a statement to the media that her mother's understanding of the situation is limited.

"Understand that those opinions are based on her interaction with Josh and the boys nearly 2 years ago as she hasn't seen any of them since Josh moved to Washington a month after Susan's disappearance," Graves said.

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Thanks Muffy..the last statement by Josh's sister explains it al from her Mom's perspective..she hasn't seen them since they moved to Oregon..alrighty then.

But it doesn't explain the fact that Josh's Mom knew what the family was like before she divorced and ..well,,after what her husband put her through and is now charged with..it shouldn't be a huge jump to how a son might mistreat his wife.

All said and done..I think she left to save herself..and if the children wouldn't come with her at that time she couldn't force the corut due to their ages.  I think she has regrets ..I think she feels some guilt..but she should not..she got out..the children each had a choice..

I wish she would get over that guilt and see it wasn't her..it was Steve.  The family disfunction started with him..and she knew it was wrong and removed herself..  Beating herself up...by pretending that Josh is in anyway normal as a husband and father doesn't make a wrong right..she bears no guilt in this in my mind..I just wish she could wrap her head around that in her mind.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on October 11, 2011, 11:09:27 PM
http://**/sltrib/news/52702022-78/powell-west-court-steve.html.csp

Steve Powell hires attorney in voyeurism case
By melinda Rogers
The Salt Lake Tribune
First published Oct 11 2011 07:27AM
Updated 1 hour ago Updated Oct 11, 2011 07:28PM

The father-in-law of missing West Valley City mother Susan Powell has an attorney to represent him in his voyeurism and pornography case.

Documents filed in Pierce County Superior Court in Tacoma, Wash., show Steve Powell has hired Tacoma attorney Mark T. Quigley to represent him. Quigley appeared in court on Oct. 11, where the next court date was scheduled for Oct. 27. A Nov. 16 trial date was also set.

Steve Powell, 61, was not scheduled to appear in court in person because the nature of the hearing was to set future court dates for the case, the Pierce County Prosecutor’s Office said.

Steve Powell is charged with 14 counts of voyeurism and one count of possessing an image of minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct.

Powell, who has pleaded not guilty to the charges against him, is being held in the Pierce County jail on a $200,000 cash or bond bail. Michael R. Kawamura of the Pierce County Dept. of Assigned Counsel represented Powell during his initial court appearance.

Prosecutor Grant Blinn said during a court hearing last month that Powell took images over a 10-year span, with the court case focusing on voyeurism episodes from 2006 and 2007.

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on October 11, 2011, 11:14:41 PM
Well, what might SP's defense be...accidental or one of his adult children are responsible?  Bet the mentally unstable son gets thrown under the bus.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on October 12, 2011, 12:22:29 AM
Well, what might SP's defense be...accidental or one of his adult children are responsible?  Bet the mentally unstable son gets thrown under the bus.

BBM

Yep, that would be good news.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on October 12, 2011, 08:42:34 AM
Well, what might SP's defense be...accidental or one of his adult children are responsible?  Bet the mentally unstable son gets thrown under the bus.

BBM

Yep, that would be good news.  ::MonkeyCool::

I didn't mean Josh.  I mean the other brother.  Sry, can't think of his name ATM.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 12, 2011, 04:05:05 PM
Well, what might SP's defense be...accidental or one of his adult children are responsible?  Bet the mentally unstable son gets thrown under the bus.

That would be my guess (bolded by me in above)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 12, 2011, 04:08:08 PM
Well, what might SP's defense be...accidental or one of his adult children are responsible?  Bet the mentally unstable son gets thrown under the bus.

That would be my guess (bolded by me in above)

 ::rhino::  but I don't think it will fly..if it was found on all the computers in the house ..and the personal computer of Steve's..which I think it was..then I just don't think that will fly.  I think they are going to have to get more creative to get out of this one.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 14, 2011, 03:39:55 PM
http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/7d07a915762f4dcfbf4cd0548c1eb6d3/UT--Missing-Mom-Utah/
Trial date set for father-in-law of missing Utah woman on voyeurism, child pornography charges
October 11, 2011

SALT LAKE CITY — A Nov. 16 trial date has been set for the father-in-law of a missing Utah mother.

During a hearing Tuesday in Pierce County Superior Court in Washington state, a judge also set a scheduling conference for Nov. 15.

Steven Powell is charged with 14 counts of voyeurism and one count of possessing child pornography. He remains jailed.

The 61-year-old has pleaded not guilty.

Authorities accuse him of secretly videotaping children and women, including his daughter-in-law Susan Powell. She has been missing since 2009.
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 14, 2011, 03:43:17 PM
http://**/sltrib/news/52702022-78/powell-west-court-steve.html.csp
Attorney for Steve Powell makes appearance in voyeurism case
October 11, 2011

Note: This story corrects an earlier version that incorrectly identified Mark Quigley as a private attorney.

The father-in-law of missing West Valley City mother Susan Powell now has an attorney to represent him in the voyeurism and pornography case against him.

Documents filed in Pierce County Superior Court in Tacoma, Wash., show Steve Powell will be represented by Tacoma attorney Mark T. Quigley. Quigley, an attorney with the Pierce County Department of Assigned Counsel, appeared in court Tuesday, where the next court date was scheduled for Oct. 27. A Nov. 16 trial date was set.

Steve Powell, 61, was not scheduled to appear in court in person because the nature of the hearing was to set future court dates for the case, the Pierce County Prosecutor’s Office said.

Steve Powell is charged with 14 counts of voyeurism and one count of possessing an image of minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct.
Powell, who has pleaded not guilty to the charges against him, is being held in the Pierce County jail on a $200,000 cash or bond bail. Michael R. Kawamura of the Pierce County Dept. of Assigned Counsel represented Powell during his initial court appearance.
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Steve Powell has declined jailhouse interview requests from The Salt Lake Tribune. He is currently in the county’s main jail and, with the exception of his attorney, is allowed to meet with visitors for only one hour a week.

Ed Troyer, a spokesman for the Pierce County Sheriff’s Office, said at the time Powell was charged that Pierce County investigators had reviewed only 5 to 10 percent of the computers, photographs and videos seized from Powell’s home on Aug. 25.

Troyer said on Oct. 10 that police are continuing to sift through evidence and that more charges against Powell are possible.

"We have not brought anything else forward to the prosecutor’s office yet. We are continuing to work on it," Troyer said.
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 14, 2011, 03:46:14 PM
http://**/sltrib/news/52702022-78/powell-west-court-steve.html.csp
On the same page (left side column) as the article I just posted above:

Susan Powell birthday observance planned

Friends and family of missing West Valley City mother Susan Cox Powell are organizing events in Utah and Washington to celebrate what would be the woman’s 30th birthday on Oct. 15.

In Utah, a purple balloon release will be held at 11 a.m. at West View Park in West Valley City, near 4100 South and 6000 West. West Valley City Mayor Mike Winder is scheduled to speak, said Kiirsi Hellewell, Susan Powell’s friend and a co-organizer of the event.
More...



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on October 15, 2011, 11:02:28 PM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-susan-powell-west-valley-mayor-speaks-at-susan-cox-powells-birthday-celebration-20111015,0,881214.story

100's of balloons released for Susan Powell during her birthday celebration
Aaron Vaughn, Web Producer
FOX 13 News
4:47 p.m. MDT, October 15, 2011

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah—

Dozens of friends and family celebrated the birthday of Susan Cox Powell in a bitter sweet ceremony with West Valley City Mayor Jim Winder in attendance.

The missing West Valley City mother has not been seen since December of 2009 and come Sunday, Susan will be 30-years-old. But rather than grieve, all those who love and support her threw a party and released hundreds of balloons Saturday morning. Each of the balloons included a message and card with her photo and information.

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"Susan never wanted her children to be with Josh's father. When they went to Washington for visits she would let them stay for a couple of hours and she made sure she was there the whole time and wouldn't let them stay overnight,” said Hellewell.

Josh Powell's sister Jennifer Powell, says she is glad police were able to collect the evidence against her father and that her nephews are now out of harm’s way.

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on October 16, 2011, 08:58:08 AM
not sure if there should be a thread of whos who,to put steve in
mods if you think he should be separate of susans thread and put
in a whos who go ahead


s powell court

enter name as
POWELL, STEVEN CRAIG
choice of criminal,civil,ect
http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/cfapps/linx/Search.cfm

info pg
Litigant Cause Number Type Original Charge
POWELL, STEVEN CRAIG 11-1-03893-1 DEF  VOYEURISM
http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/cfapps/linx/calendar/GetCaseList.cfm

Pierce County Superior Court Criminal Case 11-1-03893-1  PURCHASE COPIES 
Defendant: STEVEN CRAIG POWELL 
Access: Public
Jurisdiction: SUPERIOR CT - PIERCE CTY
Initial Arrest Date: 09/22/2011
http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/cfapps/linx/calendar/GetCriminalCase.cfm?cause_num=11-1-03893-1

this is on the above pg,im not sure what it is,just that it is from 2006

Incidents
Incident Number Law Enforcement Agency Offense Date
112640252 PIERCE COUNTY SHERIFF 06/01/2006
112370743 PIERCE COUNTY SHERIFF

jail
http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/cfapps/linx/calendar/GetBooking.cfm?booking_id=2011265067

Civil case
Litigant Cause Number Type Case Title File Date
POWELL, STEVEN 11-2-13049-1 DEF  CHARLES COX VS. JOSHUA POWELL 08/26/11
http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/cfapps/linx/calendar/GetCaseList.cfm

Pierce County Superior Court Civil Case 11-2-13049-1
Case Title: CHARLES COX VS. JOSHUA POWELL
Case Type: Injunction 
http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/cfapps/linx/calendar/GetCivilCase.cfm?cause_num=11-2-13049-1

main access pg
http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/cfapps/linx/main.cfm


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 16, 2011, 09:04:45 AM
IMO a Who's Who thread is not necessary.  The reference to the 2006 incident is interesting...need to know more about that.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on October 16, 2011, 03:47:33 PM
IMO a Who's Who thread is not necessary.  The reference to the 2006 incident is interesting...need to know more about that.

nut if you google-112640252 pierce county sheriff-you can get the doc below,the 2006 refers to SP
14 counts of voyeurism,from june 2006-aug 2007,the doc is explicite,im guessing they havent worked out the yrs for the rest of the img yet,and these maybe the ones that were posted already

http://www.abc4.com/media/lib/5/5/3/a/53a12909-6e23-4772-891e-34393ef8c051/PowellPC.pdf

http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/251839/powell-charging-documents.pdf


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 16, 2011, 06:14:52 PM
TY, I think I misunderstood the way I read it...thought it meant he had been caught in 2006 too. My brain isn't what it used to be.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on October 16, 2011, 08:43:24 PM
My wish for the day was to return home & read here that Susan was located.
By now I thought the old geezer would talk in jail. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: texasmom on October 16, 2011, 09:28:30 PM
Well, what might SP's defense be...accidental or one of his adult children are responsible?  Bet the mentally unstable son gets thrown under the bus.

That would be my guess (bolded by me in above)

 ::rhino::  but I don't think it will fly..if it was found on all the computers in the house ..and the personal computer of Steve's..which I think it was..then I just don't think that will fly.  I think they are going to have to get more creative to get out of this one.

I don't think that will fly either.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Maybe he could have tried to blame someone else if he hadn't taken so many pictures of himself as well.

SICK POS!   ::MonkeyMad::

jmo

http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/251839/powell-charging-documents.pdf

(last page)

 ::snipping2::

The folders where these photographs were located are stored with thousands of other images of females, both children and adults, and many folders of images of Steven Powell himself. The images of Steven Powell are sexual in nature and include images of him naked, images of his genitals, and images of him masturbating.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on October 24, 2011, 04:15:56 PM
Any word on the charred wood pieces and clothing found ? ::witch2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on October 27, 2011, 10:19:17 PM
Any word on the charred wood pieces and clothing found ? ::witch2::

Lake Erie Princess, I haven't come across any recent news about the charred wood pieces and clothing.  IIRC, LE said that it will take them three months to go over all of the things that they have collected regarding the investigation.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on October 27, 2011, 10:25:22 PM
http://**/sltrib/news/52791018-78/powell-steve-trial-case.html.csp

Steve Powell trial on porn, voyeurism charges set for March
By melinda Rogers
The Salt Lake Tribune
First published Oct 27 2011 07:15AM
Updated 9 minutes ago Updated Oct 27, 2011 07:57PM

The voyeurism and pornography trial for the father-in-law of missing West Valley City mother Susan Powell has been pushed back to March 2012.

A Pierce County Superior Court judge in Tacoma, Wash. on Thursday granted a motion to continue the Nov. 16 trial date scheduled for 61-year-old Steve Powell. The judge set a new tentative trial date of March 20 and continued a so-called omnibus hearing in the case to Jan 12. At that hearing the judge can rule if certain evidence will be admissible at trial.

Prosecutor Grant Blinn said Thursday the trial date was pushed back to allow Powell’s recently appointed defense attorneys more time to prepare their case. Powell, who is being held in the Pierce County jail on a $200,000 cash or bond bail, did not appear in court, Blinn said.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on October 27, 2011, 10:32:50 PM
http://**/sltrib/news/52791018-78/powell-steve-trial-case.html.csp

Steve Powell trial on porn, voyeurism charges set for March
By melinda Rogers
The Salt Lake Tribune
First published Oct 27 2011 07:15AM
Updated 9 minutes ago Updated Oct 27, 2011 07:57PM

The voyeurism and pornography trial for the father-in-law of missing West Valley City mother Susan Powell has been pushed back to March 2012.

A Pierce County Superior Court judge in Tacoma, Wash. on Thursday granted a motion to continue the Nov. 16 trial date scheduled for 61-year-old Steve Powell. The judge set a new tentative trial date of March 20 and continued a so-called omnibus hearing in the case to Jan 12. At that hearing the judge can rule if certain evidence will be admissible at trial.

Prosecutor Grant Blinn said Thursday the trial date was pushed back to allow Powell’s recently appointed defense attorneys more time to prepare their case. Powell, who is being held in the Pierce County jail on a $200,000 cash or bond bail, did not appear in court, Blinn said.

 ::snipping2::


Oooops... The  ::ghost:: stole the hot link. LOL Here it is-- http://**/sltrib/news/52791018-78/powell-steve-trial-case.html.csp


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 28, 2011, 08:27:36 PM
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2016626468_apwamissingmomutah.html
Trial delayed for father-in-law of Susan Powell
The child pornography and voyeurism trial for the father-in-law of missing Utah mother Susan Powell has been delayed until next March.

October 27, 2011

TACOMA, Wash. —

The child pornography and voyeurism trial for the father-in-law of missing Utah mother Susan Powell has been delayed until next March.

Steve Powell was arrested last month after investigators who searched his Puyallup home said they found more than 1,000 images of women who had been videotaped without their consent, including Susan. He also was charged with child pornography for images he allegedly took of young neighbor girls in the bathtub and on the toilet.

Powell has pleaded not guilty and is being held on $200,000 bail.

He did not appear at a pretrial hearing Thursday where his trial was delayed from next month to March 20.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 29, 2011, 04:44:09 PM
WTF  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on November 14, 2011, 11:37:13 PM
http://**/sltrib/news/52915605-78/powell-custody-court-coxes.html.csp

Custody hearing for Powell boys postponed
By melinda Rogers
The Salt Lake Tribune
First published 3 hours ago
Updated 1 hour ago Updated Nov 14, 2011 08:04PM

A Washington state custody hearing for the children of missing West Valley City mother Susan Powell has been postponed until January.

A Pierce County Superior Court judge on Tuesday was supposed to hear an update in the custody case involving the children, ages 6 and 4. A judge last month granted temporary custody of the boys to Susan Powell’s parents, Chuck and Judy Cox, after Washington child-protection workers removed them from the care of their father, Joshua Powell.

"The hearing has been canceled due to a legal agreement," said the Coxes in a statement posted on the Friends and Family of Susan Cox Powell Facebook page Monday. "The children remain in state custody most likely through January. The grandparents welcome additional time with the boys."

The Coxes have also asked the court to appoint a guardian ad litem, an attorney who would represent the interests of the boys alone in court proceedings. The Coxes stated in their request that the children were having some difficulties with the custody situation.

 ::snipping2::

Josh Powell has said he knows nothing about his wife’s disappearance or his father’s alleged crimes. A judge granted him weekly three-hour visits with his sons.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on November 14, 2011, 11:43:32 PM
What is going on in this case?  It's time for Susan and her family to get justice.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on November 15, 2011, 08:04:02 AM
http://**/sltrib/news/52915605-78/powell-custody-court-coxes.html.csp

Custody hearing for Powell boys postponed
By melinda Rogers
The Salt Lake Tribune
First published 3 hours ago
Updated 1 hour ago Updated Nov 14, 2011 08:04PM

A Washington state custody hearing for the children of missing West Valley City mother Susan Powell has been postponed until January.

A Pierce County Superior Court judge on Tuesday was supposed to hear an update in the custody case involving the children, ages 6 and 4. A judge last month granted temporary custody of the boys to Susan Powell’s parents, Chuck and Judy Cox, after Washington child-protection workers removed them from the care of their father, Joshua Powell.

"The hearing has been canceled due to a legal agreement," said the Coxes in a statement posted on the Friends and Family of Susan Cox Powell Facebook page Monday. "The children remain in state custody most likely through January. The grandparents welcome additional time with the boys."

The Coxes have also asked the court to appoint a guardian ad litem, an attorney who would represent the interests of the boys alone in court proceedings. The Coxes stated in their request that the children were having some difficulties with the custody situation.


 ::snipping2::

Josh Powell has said he knows nothing about his wife’s disappearance or his father’s alleged crimes. A judge granted him weekly three-hour visits with his sons.

 ::snipping2::


BBM
 
I wonder what it means  "the hearing has been cancelled due to a legal agreement"?  And the article says the boys "remain in state custody most likely through January."  Since it says the Coxes welcome the additional time with the boys, I assume that's who they'll continue to stay with through January.  I wonder if any of this has to do with the psychological testing Joshua had to undergo to show he would be a good father if he had custody?  (Not sure of the wording)  Maybe he had issues that showed up? 

I think it's excellent the Coxes have requested a guardian ad litem for the boys.  I wonder what kind of difficulties the boys are having with the custody situation?  Maybe they don't want to keep seeing their father or they're afraid they'll have to go back to live with him?  The Coxes did well in asking for a guardian ad litem.  That way, the boys won't be pawns in the court, between the Coxes and the Powell's.  The guardian ad litem will represent the boys, right?  And the boys alone. And that's important, imo.  Especially after Josh's mom made the statements about how good a father Josh was.  I hope the Coxes are granted permanent custody of their grandsons soon. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on November 15, 2011, 10:26:09 PM
Mzzz Bee,

Here's some information about the Utah Guardian ad Litem attorneys; they are assisted by court appointed volunteers referred to as CASAs (Court Appointed Special Advocates).  They work with the attorneys to represent the best interest of the child.  Sounds like a nice arrangement.

http://www.utcourts.gov/specproj/galcasa.htm


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on November 15, 2011, 10:35:55 PM
A two-page interesting, informative article that answers many questions.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705394382/Father-of-Susan-Powell-says-boys-are-fine-but-he-wants-more-information-about-their-father.html?pg=1

Father of Susan Powell says boys are fine, but he wants more information about their father
Published: Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2011 4:55 p.m. MST
By Pat Reavy, Deseret News

PUYALLUP, Wash. — The father of missing Utahn Susan Cox Powell says his grandsons are doing well living with him, but he wants information about his son-in-law's psychological evaluation, financial situation and information about whether he's moving.

In September, a Washington judge gave temporary custody of Josh and Susan Powell's two sons, ages 4 and 6, to Chuck and Judy Cox, Susan Powell's parents. The decision came following the arrest of Josh Powell's father, Stephen Powell, on voyeurism and child porn charges and in light of the ongoing investigation into the disappearance of Susan Powell.

A follow-up court hearing originally scheduled for Tuesday has been continued until next year.

But in newly filed documents, Chuck Cox updated the court on how his grandsons are doing at his Puyallup, Wash., house.

Cox noted that the boys were seeing both a counselor and a therapist who was working with them "on a number of issues," according to court documents.

While one of the boys seemed to be complying with the therapist, the other has been "somewhat reluctant" to work with her, Cox said in his court filing. Although he is doing well in school, Cox said the boy was "having nightmares" and was "afraid of the dark."

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on November 15, 2011, 11:41:41 PM
Mzzz Bee,

Here's some information about the Utah Guardian ad Litem attorneys; they are assisted by court appointed volunteers referred to as CASAs (Court Appointed Special Advocates).  They work with the attorneys to represent the best interest of the child.  Sounds like a nice arrangement.

http://www.utcourts.gov/specproj/galcasa.htm


Thank you for the info & link grace-land.  I agree, it does sound like a nice arrangement.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on November 20, 2011, 07:08:20 PM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20546144,00.html

Missing Susan Powell's Children: How They're Coping
By Alla Byrne
Sunday November 20, 2011 05:55 PM EST

It's been nearly two years since Susan Powell disappeared, but her father says her two young sons are coping well.

In September, Susan's parents, Charles and Judy Cox, gained custody of Charlie Powell, 6, and Braden Powell, 4. The decision came after the discovery that their father Josh Powell was under investigation for child pornography and continues to be a person of interest in the ongoing investigation into Susan's December 2009 disappearance.

According to court documents, Charles Cox noted that the boys were seeing both a counselor and a therapist who was working with them "on a number of issues," the Deseret News reports.

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on December 03, 2011, 08:47:46 PM
http://**/sltrib/news/53029304-78/police-powell-body-case.html.csp

Two years later: Could police prove a crime without finding Susan Powell?
By nate carlisle
The Salt Lake Tribune
First published Dec 03 2011 06:49AM
Updated Dec 3, 2011 06:49AM

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Finding any remains would end the nearly two-year mystery of Powell’s disappearance, giving her family answers and providing something else: evidence. But in the absence of discovering a body, bringing any criminal case in connection with Powell’s disappearance is a lot tougher.

Police have said little about what evidence exists in the case, but University of Utah law professor Daniel Medwed said the lack of a body would make it difficult, but not impossible, to file a murder charge.

“You basically need to have a mountain of circumstantial evidence,” Medwed said.

That circumstantial evidence would have to show the person is dead, was murdered and who did it. But a murder case with no body creates an obvious counterargument for the defendant.

“I could envision a defense attorney here saying, “Well ... we don’t have a body. We don’t even know that she’s dead,’” Medwed said.

West Valley City police Chief Buzz Nielsen said last week police are still waiting for laboratory testing of ashes discovered by cadaver dogs during the Topaz Mountain search that may contain human remains, and they are continuing to sort through a trailer full of evidence taken from the Puyallup home.

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on December 03, 2011, 08:52:19 PM
http://**/sltrib/news/53029746-78/powell-cox-court-josh.html.csp

For Susan Powell’s sons, a missing mom and an uncertain future
By brooke adams
The Salt Lake Tribune
First published Dec 03 2011 07:36AM
Updated 10 minutes ago Updated Dec 3, 2011 06:20PM

As Utah authorities work to solve the mysterious disappearance of Susan Cox Powell, Washington officials are focused on another unresolved problem: what’s best for her two young sons.

For now, Charlie, 6, and Braden, 4, are living with Chuck and Judy Cox, their maternal grandparents, in Puyallup, Wash. But where they will live permanently depends on the outcome of two court cases.

A Jan. 19 review hearing is set in the child welfare action brought by the state’s Division of Children and Family Services. A judge will then review how the boys are doing; what progress their father, Josh Powell, has made in addressing safety concerns; and whether any new services are needed.

“Everything is on the table at those review hearings,” said John Long, senior counsel in the Washington Attorney General’s Office.

Filings in that case are confidential, but according to a document filed as part of the second court case — a custody petition filed by the Coxes — Josh Powell recently signed an agreed dependency order that eliminates the need for a trial. That order likely spells out alternative plans for the boys’ future, including what their father must do to get them back.

In their case, Cox asked the court in mid-November to appoint a guardian ad litem, who represents children’s interests in court proceedings, so a custody investigation may begin. He also asked that they be allowed to review Josh Powell’s psychological evaluation.

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on December 05, 2011, 05:02:00 PM
Susan Powell's disappearance hits 2 year mark

WEST VALLEY CITY -- This week marks two years since West Valley mother Susan Powell went missing.

West Valley police have conducted several large scale searches for her, ranging from searching the home where her husband, Josh Powell, is living in Washington, to spending weeks in Utah's west desert and searching mines in Nevada.

Currently, Josh Powell remains the only person of interest in the case.

A court order prevents Susan's parents, Chuck and Judy Cox, from granting any interviews. They did, however, release a statement saying the case is still being actively worked and police have assured them the case will be solved.

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http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=18366373


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on December 05, 2011, 05:02:35 PM
News release

The Susan Cox Powell foundation announces that December 7, 2011 marks two years that Susan Powell, the daughter of Chuck & Judy Cox has been missing.

Susan Powell vanished from her home in West Valley City, Utah and was last seen by her husband Joshua Powell around midnight as he left for a camping trip with their two young boys, ages 2 and 4, with a blizzard approaching. Joshua Powell remains the only person of interest in Susan's disappearance.

The case is still being actively worked and police assure the family that the case will be solved.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=18366373&pid=1


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on December 05, 2011, 05:03:37 PM
Susan Powell Update -- No Body, No Crime?

http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474980850652


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on December 05, 2011, 05:04:45 PM

It’s been two years since Susan Cox Powell disappeared; could police make a case without a body?

http://blog.thenewstribune.com/crime/2011/12/05/its-been-two-years-since-susan-cox-powell-disappeared-could-police-make-a-case-without-a-body/


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on December 05, 2011, 05:05:53 PM
Video: Three Questions with West Valley City’s police chief

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West Valley City Police Chief Thayle "Buzz" Nielsen joined McDaniel to talk about the Susan Powell case, what he enjoys about his career and how he got the nickname Buzz.

 ::snipping2::

http://**/sltrib/news/53023283-78/questions-buzz-case-chief.html.csp


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 05, 2011, 05:43:12 PM
(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/3f/dd/susan%20and%20boys%20hardman%20photography.jpg)::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on December 05, 2011, 11:46:41 PM
With video

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-after-missing-2-years-wvc-police-says-search-for-susan-powell-still-high-priority-20111205,0,6518354.story

Police say Susan Powell case still very active after 2 years disappearance
Aaron Vaughn, Web Producer
FOX 13 News
7:38 p.m. MST, December 5, 2011

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah—
West Valley City Police say the search for the missing West Valley Mother, Susan Cox Powell, is still a top priority for them. And after two years since Susan's disappearance, they say they have made progress yet still not saying whether they are any closer to solving the case.

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Some thought there would be a break in the case this summer when police found a shallow grave during a search near Topaz Mountain in the West Desert. However, what cadaver dogs indicated to be possible human remains turned out to be remnants of a fire pit and bits of charred wood. Police say the wood was analyzed, but do not say whether human remains were found during lab tests.

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on December 06, 2011, 05:29:46 PM
http://**/sltrib/news/53060244-78/powell-susan-police-wood.html.csp

Results are in on charred wood found during Susan Powell search
By nate carlisle
The Salt Lake Tribune
First published 4 hours ago
Updated 24 minutes ago Updated Dec 6, 2011 02:51PM

West Valley City police on Tuesday said a laboratory has finished examining suspicious charred wood found during a desert search for Susan Cox Powell, but the department would not say whether the wood bears a connection to the missing woman.

"Those results have come back," said Sgt. Mike Powell, who is no relation to Susan Powell. "However, we are not able to discuss the specifics of those results at this point."

"In a general statement, I can definitely tell you that the investigation is progressing forward," Mike Powell added.


Susan Cox Powell’s father, Chuck Cox, on Tuesday said police had not informed him of the lab results.

On Sept. 14, cadaver dogs searching near Topaz Mountain in Juab County indicated the presence of human remains. Police excavated the site but found only what they described as charred wood and theorized they may have been used to incinerate human remains. Police said the site looked less than 10 years old, but there was otherwise no evidence of a connection to the Susan Powell disappearance.

Detectives sent the wood to a crime lab for analysis.

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on December 06, 2011, 05:45:55 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705395384/Susan-Cox-Powell-last-seen-2-years-ago-today.html

Susan Cox Powell last seen 2 years ago today
Published: Tuesday, Dec. 6, 2011 11:40 a.m. MST
By Pat Reavy, Deseret

WEST VALLEY CITY — Tuesday marks two years since the last time since Susan Cox Powell was seen.

"I never thought we would get to this point and not be done when we began this whole process," said Jennifer Graves, the sister of Susan's husband, Josh Powell.

Kiirsi Hellewell, a friend who lived near the Powells in West Valley City, sent out a message on her Twitter account Tuesday: "Rough week emotionally. Today is December 6: 2 years ago this noon I walked home from church with Susan. How I wish I'd known."

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 07, 2011, 06:51:01 AM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705395384/Susan-Cox-Powell-last-seen-2-years-ago-today.html
Susan Cox Powell last seen 2 years ago today
Published: Tuesday, Dec. 6, 2011 11:40 a.m. MST
By Pat Reavy, Deseret News

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Tuesday, West Valley police released a brief statement saying the case is still an active investigation.

"This case has been, and continues to be a top priority for the West Valley City Police Department and the team of detectives assigned to it full time. The investigation continues to progress with information developed from leads and other relevant evidence," the department said in the statement.

Police recognize Dec. 7 as the day Susan Powell was reported missing.

Tuesday, West Valley Police Sgt. Mike Powell said test results from items collected during an extensive search of the remote Topaz Mountain area in September — small items that appeared to be burnt pieces of wood — had been returned. However, Powell could not comment on any information about what was found or if there were human remains on the small pieces as cadaver dogs had originally detected, or if it had anything to do with the Susan Powell case at all.

In September, police noted that "human remains" could mean dried blood and not necessarily decaying flesh or tissue.

Chuck and Judy Cox, who currently have temporary custody of Josh and Susan Powell's two young boys, have declined all interview requests since gaining custody of the children, citing a court order telling them to stay out of the media spotlight.

They did, however, release a brief statement reminding people that their daughter is still missing, and adding that "Joshua Powell remains the only person of interest in Susan's disappearance."
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on December 07, 2011, 10:21:00 PM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=960&sid=18381986

'Dateline' plans special episode to mark anniversary of Powell disappearance
By Sam Penrod and Pat Reavy
December 6th, 2011

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Josh Powell's interview with Dateline

"I don't know what's happened to her. I don't know where she is," Josh Powell told "Dateline NBC's" Keith Morrison in an interview that will air Friday at 9 p.m. MST.

When Josh Powell agreed to meet with Dateline, he spent hours talking with Morrison late at night, at the same time police were raiding his father's home.

"He talked about Susan in the present tense, which some people will find curious," Morrison told KSL News. "I asked him, ‘Do you think she's still out there somewhere?'"

To that, Morrison said Josh Powell threw out several theories but made it clear he didn't have anything to do with Susan's disappearance.

"He said he thought she was, she was afraid to come back and was looking for a safe way to return — an odd thing to say, I think some sort of a reflection of the feud the Powell men have going with Susan's parents."

The hour-long report involves all of the players in the case, including Susan's family and friends and West Valley police investigators. It also examines the couple's early relationship.

But in talking to Morrison, he was most intrigued about his interviews with Josh and Steven Powell. "Listening to them and looking at their facial expressions as I was editing this was really fascinating," he said.

That interest has increased, Morrison said, since Steven Powell's arrest on child porn charges and the extensive search in the desert near Topaz Mountain during September.

"It was fascinating to watch developments occur, but also, to some extent, through the eyes of these two men … very interesting," Morrison said.

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on December 08, 2011, 02:37:33 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705395497/Josh-Powell-says-sons-in-middle-of-very-hostile-war.html

Josh Powell says sons in middle of 'very hostile war'
Published: Wednesday, Dec. 7, 2011 7:21 p.m. MST
By Emiley Morgan, Deseret News

PUYALLUP, Wash. — Almost two years to the day that his wife went missing, Josh Powell filed a declaration in court as part of an ongoing custody battle over the couple's two children alleging harm and "ongoing trauma."

"By being with the Coxes, my sons are caught in the middle of a very hostile war of words and emotions," Powell wrote in a signed declaration filed in a Pierce County court Wednesday.

He called the Cox family's treatment of his children "reckless," indicative of "an irrational vendetta against me," and said it is "sapping my sons' happiness and sense of security."

In September, a Washington judge gave temporary custody of Josh and Susan Cox Powell 's two sons, ages 4 and 6, to Susan's parents, Chuck and Judy Cox. The decision came following the arrest of Josh Powell's father, Stephen Powell, on voyeurism and child porn charges and in light of the ongoing investigation into the disappearance of Susan Powell.

The boys had been living with Josh Powell at his father's home in Washington since Jan. 2010. Susan Powell was last seen at the family's home on Dec. 6, 2009. Josh Powell has been named a person of interest in her disappearance because police say he has not cooperated with them.

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 08, 2011, 05:06:37 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/husband-of-missing-utah-mom-susan-cox-powell-in-laws-turning-sons-against-me/2011/12/08/gIQAKRhDfO_story.html
By Associated Press, Updated: Thursday, December 8, 10:56 AM

SALT LAKE CITY — The husband of missing Utah mom Susan Cox Powell says her parents are turning the couple’s children against him.

Josh Powell filed a court declaration this week in Pierce County, Wash., asking the 4- and 6-year-old boys to be moved to a neutral caretaker. He says Chuck and Judy Cox, who have custody, have an “irrational vendetta” against him that’s putting stress on the boys.
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: mizjay on December 08, 2011, 06:58:32 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/husband-of-missing-utah-mom-susan-cox-powell-in-laws-turning-sons-against-me/2011/12/08/gIQAKRhDfO_story.html
By Associated Press, Updated: Thursday, December 8, 10:56 AM

SALT LAKE CITY — The husband of missing Utah mom Susan Cox Powell says her parents are turning the couple’s children against him.

Josh Powell filed a court declaration this week in Pierce County, Wash., asking the 4- and 6-year-old boys to be moved to a neutral caretaker. He says Chuck and Judy Cox, who have custody, have an “irrational vendetta” against him that’s putting stress on the boys.
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I truly would be honored to show that twerp what a real "irrational vendetta" is.. I want so bad for him to be arrested, convicted, imprisoned and STFU.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: texasmom on December 09, 2011, 10:16:04 PM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=960&sid=18381986

'Dateline' plans special episode to mark anniversary of Powell disappearance
By Sam Penrod and Pat Reavy
December 6th, 2011

 ::snipping2::

Josh Powell's interview with Dateline

"I don't know what's happened to her. I don't know where she is," Josh Powell told "Dateline NBC's" Keith Morrison in an interview that will air Friday at 9 p.m. MST.

When Josh Powell agreed to meet with Dateline, he spent hours talking with Morrison late at night, at the same time police were raiding his father's home.

"He talked about Susan in the present tense, which some people will find curious," Morrison told KSL News. "I asked him, ‘Do you think she's still out there somewhere?'"

To that, Morrison said Josh Powell threw out several theories but made it clear he didn't have anything to do with Susan's disappearance.

"He said he thought she was, she was afraid to come back and was looking for a safe way to return — an odd thing to say, I think some sort of a reflection of the feud the Powell men have going with Susan's parents."

The hour-long report involves all of the players in the case, including Susan's family and friends and West Valley police investigators. It also examines the couple's early relationship.

But in talking to Morrison, he was most intrigued about his interviews with Josh and Steven Powell. "Listening to them and looking at their facial expressions as I was editing this was really fascinating," he said.

That interest has increased, Morrison said, since Steven Powell's arrest on child porn charges and the extensive search in the desert near Topaz Mountain during September.

"It was fascinating to watch developments occur, but also, to some extent, through the eyes of these two men … very interesting," Morrison said.

 ::snipping2::


It's on!   ::MonkeyCool::

I'd forgotten so I missed the first 10 minutes or so, but I'm watching now.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on December 09, 2011, 11:35:04 PM
Saw "Dateline". Nothing new, just what we have already discussed. Except...

... did I hear the man (didn't get the name) saying that Josh may also be a subject of the child pornography investigation?



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on December 09, 2011, 11:45:34 PM
Saw "Dateline". Nothing new, just what we have already discussed. Except...

... did I hear the man (didn't get the name) saying that Josh may also be a subject of the child pornography investigation?



I didn't see "Dateline", but from what I can remember reading in articles here,it would appear Josh is being investigated because he wants custody of his children and LE must not only clear him as a POI in Susan's disappearance, they must also clear him of any participation in his father's alleged illegal activities (which I assume is Steve's child porn).  This makes sense to me even without the question of custody, because Josh lived in the same house with his father and I believe they may have used at least one of the same computers.  So yeah, I'll bet he's under investigation in regard to child porn.  You can probably comb through some of the latter pages in this thread and find where LE will be looking at Josh too, for the reasons I gave.

http://**/sltrib/news/52665446-78/powell-josh-judge-child.html.csp
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With his children now in the custody of their maternal grandparents, there is only one way for Josh Powell to get them back, says one national child welfare expert: Law enforcement must clear him as a person of interest in the disappearance of his wife, Susan, and of any participation in his father’s alleged illegal activities.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on December 11, 2011, 11:34:47 PM
A transcript of the interview with Dateline's Keith Morrison and Josh is included in the article. 

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/josh-powell-says-he-may-not-want-to-be-married-to-susan-anymore

Josh Powell says he may not want to be married to Susan anymore
Isabelle Zehnder, Missing Persons Examiner
December 11, 2011

PUYALLUP, Washington (Isabelle Zehnder reporting) - In an exclusive, not seen before interview with Dateline's Keith Morrison, Josh Powell said everything had changed and he didn’t think tension with his missing wife, Susan Cox Powell’s family, would be conducive to a good marriage if she ever returned.

The MSNBC Dateline interview aired Dec. 9, 2011, nearly two years to the day that Susan went missing. Click here to read a recent police update, watch Josh's infamous "Blue Cap" interview with Channel 2 News' Chris Jones just days after Susan went missing, and read Josh's account of what happened the night his wife went missing.

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on December 12, 2011, 04:41:39 PM
http://www.thenewstribune.com/2011/12/12/1941869/powell-case-difficult-due-to-lack.html

Powell case difficult due to lack of evidence
NATE CARLISLE; The Salt Lake Tribune
Published: 12/12/11 12:00 am | Updated: 12/11/11 11:47 pm

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Police are still waiting for laboratory testing of ashes discovered by cadaver dogs during the Topaz Mountain search that may contain human remains, said West Valley City Police Chief Buzz Nielsen.

They also are continuing to sort through a trailer full of evidence taken from the Puyallup home, he said.

No other searches are planned, but Nielsen said he remains confident the case will be solved.

“We’re going to get there,” he said.

 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.thenewstribune.com/2011/12/12/1941869/powell-case-difficult-due-to-lack.html#ixzz1gMHdHqjS


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on December 14, 2011, 12:49:36 AM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=18488050

Family marks 2-year anniversary of Koecher disappearance
By Alex Cabrero
December 13th, 2011 @ 10:05pm

BOUNTIFUL — With just one plug, hundreds of little lights turned a single Christmas tree outside a Bountiful home into a beacon of hope Tuesday night.

For Deanne Koecher, that hope has been going on for two years now: December 13, 2009 was the last time anyone saw her son, Steven Koecher.

 ::snipping2::

Steven Koecher was talked about briefly during the "Dateline NBC" special on Susan Powell last week. Steven Powell, Susan's father-in-law, suggested Steven Koecher ran off with Susan, but there has never been any evidence of that.

KSL News asked Deanne Koecher if seeing that suggestion on TV made her mad. She said no — even though it's completely ridiculous, at least it got her son's face on national TV. She's hoping maybe someone out there recognizes him.

If you have any information related to Steven Koecher's last-known whereabouts and disappearance, contact St. George police at 435-627-4950.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cw618 on January 03, 2012, 08:38:25 AM
STEVEN CRAIG POWELL/  Cause Number: 11-1-03893-1
Proceedings
Date Judge Dept Type Outcome
09/23/2011 01:30 PM CRIMINAL DIVISION 2  CD2 ARRAIGNMENT - BENCH WARRANT ARRAIGNED
10/11/2011 08:30 AM CRIMINAL DIVISION 2  CD2 RETURN WITH ATTY CANCELLED
10/11/2011 08:30 AM CRIMINAL DIVISION 2  CD2 PRE-TRIAL CONFERENCE HELD
10/27/2011 01:30 PM CRIMINAL DIVISION- PRESIDING JUDGE  CDPJ OMNIBUS HEARING CONTINUED
11/16/2011 08:30 AM CRIMINAL DIVISION- PRESIDING JUDGE  CDPJ JURY TRIAL CONTINUED
01/12/2012 08:45 AM CRIMINAL DIVISION- PRESIDING JUDGE  CDPJ OMNIBUS HEARING 
03/20/2012 08:30 AM CRIMINAL DIVISION- PRESIDING JUDGE  CDPJ JURY TRIAL
Superior Court Cases
https://linxonline.co.pierce.wa.us/linxweb/Search.cfm


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Sister on January 03, 2012, 08:47:59 AM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=18488050

Family marks 2-year anniversary of Koecher disappearance
By Alex Cabrero
December 13th, 2011 @ 10:05pm

BOUNTIFUL — With just one plug, hundreds of little lights turned a single Christmas tree outside a Bountiful home into a beacon of hope Tuesday night.

For Deanne Koecher, that hope has been going on for two years now: December 13, 2009 was the last time anyone saw her son, Steven Koecher.

 ::snipping2::

Steven Koecher was talked about briefly during the "Dateline NBC" special on Susan Powell last week. Steven Powell, Susan's father-in-law, suggested Steven Koecher ran off with Susan, but there has never been any evidence of that.

KSL News asked Deanne Koecher if seeing that suggestion on TV made her mad. She said no — even though it's completely ridiculous, at least it got her son's face on national TV. She's hoping maybe someone out there recognizes him.

If you have any information related to Steven Koecher's last-known whereabouts and disappearance, contact St. George police at 435-627-4950.

There was a special on Steven on Discovery ID last night.  Sorry, I don't have a link.  It is painfully obvious he is not with Susan.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on January 12, 2012, 07:43:20 PM
http://mynorthwest.com/11/609312/Months-after-arrest-Susan-Powells-fatherinlaw-still-in-jail

Updated Jan 12, 2012 - 2:40 pm
Months after arrest, Susan Powell's father-in-law still in jail
By Brandi Kruse
97.3 KIRO FM Reporter

It appears the father-in-law of missing Puyallup mom Susan Powell has either run out of money, or friends.
Steven Powell, 61, has been in the Pierce County Jail since his arrest on voyeurism and child pornography charges on Sept. 23, 2011.

"He's being held on $200,000 bail," said Pierce County Prosecutor Mark Lindquist. "He'd have to convince a bail bondsman that he has collateral in the amount of $200,000."

But Powell, who had a pre-trial hearing Thursday, would have to post just a fraction of that amount to be released before his March 20 trial date.

He was arrested after police from West Valley City, Utah searched his Puyallup home and uncovered thousands of images and videos of children and women taken without their consent.
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on January 13, 2012, 04:19:38 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705397315/Washington-attorneys-prepare-for-Steven-Powell-trial-in-March.html

Washington attorneys prepare for Steven Powell trial in March
Published: Friday, Jan. 13, 2012 1:34 p.m. MST
By Pat Reavy, Deseret News

TACOMA, Wash. — The trial of Steven Powell on charges of voyeurism and possession of child pornography is expected to last a week and Powell is expected to fight the allegations.

On Thursday, a final court hearing was held in Tacoma before Powell's trial is scheduled to begin March 20.
 ::snipping2::
According to court documents filed during an omnibus hearing on Thursday, Steven Powell's defense attorneys indicated the general nature of their defense would be "general denial." Other possible answers available to defense attorneys, but not chosen, were "alibi," "consent," "insanity" and "diminished capacity."

A box on the court papers labeled, "Defense has received a plea offer from the state," was left unchecked.

The court papers also say Steven Powell has no known prior criminal convictions.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Sister on January 14, 2012, 01:43:29 PM
Thanks for the up-dates grace-land.  So, the POS has no friends to bail him out . . . pity . . . not!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on January 15, 2012, 01:21:23 PM
Thanks for the up-dates grace-land.  So, the POS has no friends to bail him out . . . pity . . . not!

YW, Sister.   ::MonkeyCool::
 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on January 20, 2012, 02:16:00 AM
Video at link

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=18938940

Sister-in-law: Josh Powell needs to ‘fess up' to what he did
By Jennifer Stagg
January 19th, 2012 @ 10:28pm

PUYALLUP, Wash. — While Susan Cox Powell's parents are under a court mandated gag order and can't speak with the media, Susan's sister is not.

Denise Cox said Thursday Denise Cox says she's glad her nephews are safe, and she can't wait until Josh Powell is charged for what she believes he did to her sister.
 ::snipping2::
Susan's two young sons are currently in the care of the women's parents, Chuck and Judy Cox. Their father, Josh Powell, lost custody last year after his father, Steven Powell, whom he was living with, was arrested on charges of voyeurism and child porn.

Denise believes Josh was also involved. "I know he's not innocent in this," she said. "I know he knew all that."

Josh has been fighting to regain custody of his boys. A custody review hearing was scheduled for Thursday to see if he had met all of the judge's demands. But a massive storm crippled western Washington state and cancelled court.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 20, 2012, 08:55:50 AM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=18938940&autostart=y
 ::snipping2::
Denise says her sister and Josh had had marital problems for years before she vanished — that Josh was manipulative and physically violent toward Susan.

"(Susan) called me crying and said that he had pushed her and she was scared," Denise recalled. She says she told Susan to "take the boys, go somewhere and I'll come get you, and she didn't. She wouldn't do it."

Denise believes Josh is responsible for her sister's disappearance.

"Quit being a little girl," she said. "Fess up to what you did to my sister and turn yourself in and help us out. Let us have some closure."

(http://img1.UploadScreenshot.com/images/thumb/1/1823472374.png) (http://www.UploadScreenshot.com/image/701790/5340639) ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on January 22, 2012, 07:20:01 AM
http://womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/2012/01/reflections-on-snow-crime-and.html
Reflections on Snow, Crime, and Punishment
Quote
When you retire to bed at night, the ground is covered with fresh and pristine snow, untouched. When you wake up in the morning, there are footprints in the snow, leading to your doorstep where the morning's newspaper is there. You didn't see the person deliver your newspaper directly, but circumstantial evidence tells you, via footprints in the snow, that someone indeed did.

Snow. Crime. Punishment. Help us find Susan Cox Powell.

Those 12 nincompoops in Pinellas County needed to hear the footprints analogy.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Sister on January 23, 2012, 11:20:01 AM
http://womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/2012/01/reflections-on-snow-crime-and.html
Reflections on Snow, Crime, and Punishment
Quote
When you retire to bed at night, the ground is covered with fresh and pristine snow, untouched. When you wake up in the morning, there are footprints in the snow, leading to your doorstep where the morning's newspaper is there. You didn't see the person deliver your newspaper directly, but circumstantial evidence tells you, via footprints in the snow, that someone indeed did.

Snow. Crime. Punishment. Help us find Susan Cox Powell.

Those 12 nincompoops in Pinellas County needed to hear the footprints analogy.
Absolutely!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on January 30, 2012, 10:21:20 PM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Josh-Powells-family-claims-in-laws-are-abusing/C8xMfY_5aUGMZbFz3NIAHQ.cspx

Josh Powell's family claims in-laws are abusing his two sons
Updated: 7:10 pm | Published: 6:08 pm

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (ABC 4 News) - Gone without a trace, Susan Powell went missing more than two years ago from her West Valley City Home. Her husband, Josh Powell, is the only person of interest. Since Susan’s disappearance the case has become a saga of finger pointing which has lead to accusations of lies, sex and abuse. The latest comes in the form of a website published by Josh’s brother Michael. It states Susan’s parents are abusing Josh and Susan’s two boys and child protective services in Washington is covering it up.
 ::snipping2::

Both Graves and Hellewell question the timing of the website and latest allegations. A custody hearing is scheduled for Wednesday. "Josh is feeling desperate and trying to get everything he can to sway opinion on his side for the next court hearing coming up,” said Hellewell.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on January 30, 2012, 10:33:51 PM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Josh-Powells-family-claims-in-laws-are-abusing/C8xMfY_5aUGMZbFz3NIAHQ.cspx

Josh Powell's family claims in-laws are abusing his two sons
Updated: 7:10 pm | Published: 6:08 pm

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (ABC 4 News) - Gone without a trace, Susan Powell went missing more than two years ago from her West Valley City Home. Her husband, Josh Powell, is the only person of interest. Since Susan’s disappearance the case has become a saga of finger pointing which has lead to accusations of lies, sex and abuse. The latest comes in the form of a website published by Josh’s brother Michael. It states Susan’s parents are abusing Josh and Susan’s two boys and child protective services in Washington is covering it up.
 ::snipping2::

Both Graves and Hellewell question the timing of the website and latest allegations. A custody hearing is scheduled for Wednesday. "Josh is feeling desperate and trying to get everything he can to sway opinion on his side for the next court hearing coming up,” said Hellewell.
 ::snipping2::

Was Michael the brother that walks around the home nude?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on January 30, 2012, 11:41:43 PM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Josh-Powells-family-claims-in-laws-are-abusing/C8xMfY_5aUGMZbFz3NIAHQ.cspx

Josh Powell's family claims in-laws are abusing his two sons
Updated: 7:10 pm | Published: 6:08 pm

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (ABC 4 News) - Gone without a trace, Susan Powell went missing more than two years ago from her West Valley City Home. Her husband, Josh Powell, is the only person of interest. Since Susan’s disappearance the case has become a saga of finger pointing which has lead to accusations of lies, sex and abuse. The latest comes in the form of a website published by Josh’s brother Michael. It states Susan’s parents are abusing Josh and Susan’s two boys and child protective services in Washington is covering it up.
 ::snipping2::

Both Graves and Hellewell question the timing of the website and latest allegations. A custody hearing is scheduled for Wednesday. "Josh is feeling desperate and trying to get everything he can to sway opinion on his side for the next court hearing coming up,” said Hellewell.
 ::snipping2::

Was Michael the brother that walks around the home nude?

I don't know the answer, but that's a good question, Kittymom.  


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on January 31, 2012, 01:36:38 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/josh-powell-loses-custody-amid-child-porn-investigation/story?id=14628030#.TyeJt1wS2Ag
Quote
The state's attorney told the judge that during a search of the home in August, police saw a poster depicting a woman with a sword through her genitals and found a hanging noose, and that on other occasions they had arrived at the home to find Josh Powell's brother naked when answering the door.
Quote
Josh Powell contended that the allegation about the poster was false, and he had only heard of police seeing his brother naked as he left the restroom once.

hmm...I've got to see if this is the same brother as above.  IIRC, the above incidents were explained away as the brother being mentally handicapped.  Nonetheless, he shouldn't be parading around the home nude when the children are present.  yuck




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on January 31, 2012, 01:42:12 AM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=19065471

Powell brother launches website critical of investigation, claims children are in danger

Quote
"It doesn't surprise me because they're going to try and do stuff to take the eyes off them and put it on somebody else and make themselves look a little better," said Jennifer Graves, Josh and Michael Powell's sister, who reiterated she wants the boys to continue to stay with the Coxes. "They're trying to make Josh look better so he can get his kids back, obviously."



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on January 31, 2012, 08:51:30 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/josh-powell-loses-custody-amid-child-porn-investigation/story?id=14628030#.TyeJt1wS2Ag
Quote
The state's attorney told the judge that during a search of the home in August, police saw a poster depicting a woman with a sword through her genitals and found a hanging noose, and that on other occasions they had arrived at the home to find Josh Powell's brother naked when answering the door.
Quote
Josh Powell contended that the allegation about the poster was false, and he had only heard of police seeing his brother naked as he left the restroom once.

hmm...I've got to see if this is the same brother as above.  IIRC, the above incidents were explained away as the brother being mentally handicapped.  Nonetheless, he shouldn't be parading around the home nude when the children are present.  yuck





I'm still not sure if the nude brother dude was "Michael" or not, but while I was digging around, I found Josh's explanation for it.  I mean, couldn't the brother have grabbed a towel on the way to the door? 

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7013.msg1472837#msg1472837

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705391572/Judge-grants-temporary-custody-of-Powell-children-to-their-maternal-grandparents.html?pg=2

 ::snipping2::
He said the nudity was because when police showed up at the door with a search warrant, he didn't have time to get dressed. "My brother is a decent, modest person," he said.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on January 31, 2012, 09:13:35 AM
It seems we visit this case back and forth at times.  Sometimes there's a lot of news and then nothing.  I've started a Who's Who thread for Susan's case.  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12696.0  Any monkeys help in creating this reference thread would be appreciated.  I found this article, btw:

http://**/sltrib/mobile/52682501-90/powell-josh-wrote-alina.html.csp
Josh Powell’s mom: ‘Josh is a loving and very engaged father’
By melinda Rogers
The Salt Lake Tribune
October 5, 2011

 ::snipping2::
Alina Powell and her brothers John Powell, 34, and Michael Powell, 29, have all filed declarations in support of their brother, court documents show.
 ::snipping2::
Michael Powell wrote that he lived at the Powell home in Puyallup for seven months after he was discharged from the U.S. Army until he moved to Minneapolis in July 2010 to attend graduate school.
"Josh and I spoke to a counselor about how best to care for the boys’ emotional needs; she gave recommendations which Josh has adhered to," Michael Powell wrote. "Josh has a stable job and a good income, and John and Alina both have incomes as well. Alina has been helping to care for the children and is still available to do that."
 ::snipping2::



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 31, 2012, 10:50:54 AM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=19065471

Powell brother launches website critical of investigation, claims children are in danger

Quote
"It doesn't surprise me because they're going to try and do stuff to take the eyes off them and put it on somebody else and make themselves look a little better," said Jennifer Graves, Josh and Michael Powell's sister, who reiterated she wants the boys to continue to stay with the Coxes. "They're trying to make Josh look better so he can get his kids back, obviously."



Site seems to have been taken down: 

"This site has been disabled for violations of our Terms of Service. If you feel this disabling was in error, please fill in our appeal form."

http://sites.google.com/site/4thekidzz


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 31, 2012, 10:53:04 AM
Another volley fired in volatile Susan Powell case

SALT LAKE CITY — Another shot has been fired in the volatile case of missing West Valley mother Susan Powell — this time from the brother of her husband Josh Powell.

A website called 4thekiddzz was launched by Michael C. Powell just days before a custody hearing for the couple's two young sons who live with their maternal grandparents, Chuck and Judy Cox in Washington.

Michael Powell is accusing the Coxes of willfully "maiming" one of the boys and says the house is in a "state of emergency" and the children are in imminent danger.

"These children were willfully ripped from the safe and loving home they lived in with their father and were intentionally placed in an abusive household," where one of the boys has been subjected to repeated abuse, the site alleges.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705398394/Another-volley-fired-in-volatile-Susan-Powell-case.html?s_cid=s10


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 31, 2012, 01:13:58 PM
Website supporting Josh Powell is taken down

A website launched late last week by the family of Joshua Powell — which leveled child abuse allegations against the parents of missing West Valley City mother Susan Powell — was unavailable Tuesday and listed as "disabled."

The website claimed that Chuck and Judy Cox, who have temporary custody of their daughter’s two sons, either abused the boys or allowed them to come to harm.

Those allegations were countered Monday by an attorney for the Cox family, who said the boys were "in a safe and loving home with their maternal grandparents."

Titled "4thekidzz" at http://sites.google.com/site/4thekidzz/, the website also accuses the West Valley City Police Department of incompetence in handling the case of Susan Powell and claims law enforcement has harassed Josh Powell during the course of their investigation.

A note from Google on the now-blank site states it was taken down for "violations of our Terms of Service."

 ::snipping2::

http://**/sltrib/news/53412902-78/powell-website-josh-police.html.csp


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on February 01, 2012, 05:39:34 PM

Kevin McCarty @KevinKIRO  https://twitter.com/#!/KevinKIRO
 (https://twitter.com/#!/KevinKIRO)

Waiting for Josh Powell to leave court. Some papers being drawn up. #susancoxpowell (#post_susancoxpowell) #joshpowell #FindSusan #susanpowell
5m Kevin McCarty Kevin McCarty @KevinKIRO

   

Chuck Cox: "we're relieved the kids are staying with us, for now". #joshpowell #susancoxpowell #FindSusan #ChuckCox
Judge: court recessed. No change in custody of Josh Powell's kids for now. #joshpowell #susancoxpowell #susanpowell #FindSusan
Retweeted by micki
7m Kevin McCarty Kevin McCarty @KevinKIRO

   

Judge: Josh Powell to undergo psychosexual evaluation before hearing. Supervised visits w/kids can continue #joshpowell #susanpowell
Retweeted by micki
11m Kevin McCarty Kevin McCarty @KevinKIRO

   

Judge Kathryn Nelson: rules Powell to undergo psychosexual exammand polygraph. #joshpowell #susancoxpowell #FindSusan
Retweeted by micki


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on February 01, 2012, 09:41:25 PM
Wow.  Judge must've seen something that concerned her to rule for a psychosexual exam. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on February 01, 2012, 09:43:41 PM
http://**/sltrib/cougars/53422968-78/powell-josh-images-nelson.html.csp

Judge: Kids should stay with Susan Powell’s parents

Quote
Nelson also ordered Josh Powell to undergo a psychosexual exam and take a polygraph test to determine any knowledge he has related to images West Valley City police found on a computer confiscated during a 2009 search of the Powell home.

Those images are separate from the child pornography charges against Josh Powell’s father, Steve.

West Valley City police on Wednesday confirmed the department "discovered information specifically related to [the Powell children’s] welfare" during their investigation and passed that evidence along to Washington authorities.

Assistant Attorney General John Long cited the images in requesting that Nelson keep the children with the Coxes.

A psychologist who performed an evaluation of Josh Powell has recommended an out-of-home placement for the boys until their father is further along in therapy, Long said. Josh Powell has attended one therapy session so far. The psychologist also determined a psychosexual evaluation and polygraph test of Josh Powell are needed due to the nature of the images pulled from his computer.

 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on February 01, 2012, 09:47:56 PM
http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/02/01/2008426/to-regain-custody-josh-powell.html

Quote
Nelson acknowledged that Powell is doing well in meeting the conditions she placed on him in September and reiterated that her plan is to reunite the family if he continues to meet those requirements. She also allowed him to continue having twice-a-week supervised visitation with the boys.

Read more here: http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/02/01/2008426/to-regain-custody-josh-powell.html#storylink=cpy

Let's hope there is a break in the case and an arrest soon so that the judge will change her mind about the future of these kids.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on February 01, 2012, 09:51:01 PM



https://twitter.com/#!/KevinKIRO (https://twitter.com/#!/KevinKIRO)

KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
@
@StartRunning2 Josh Powell remained very calm and showed no emotion. I don't have a pic of the suit at this time
2 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Judge cites "extreme child porn" and concern over porn on Josh Powell's home computer. #FindSusan #SusanCoxPowell bit.ly/ydwpfY (http://bit.ly/ydwpfY)
2 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Josh Powell left court without comment. I'll have more at 5:02 on #KIRO7 #susancoxpowell #joshpowell #susanpowell #FindSusan #ChuckCox
4 hours ago
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Waiting for Josh Powell to leave court. Some papers being drawn up. #susancoxpowell #joshpowell #FindSusan #susanpowell
4 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Chuck Cox: "we're relieved the kids are staying with us, for now". #joshpowell #susancoxpowell #FindSusan #ChuckCox
4 hours ago
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Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Judge: court recessed. No change in custody of Josh Powell's kids for now. #joshpowell #susancoxpowell #susanpowell #FindSusan
4 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Judge: Josh Powell to undergo psychosexual evaluation before hearing. Supervised visits w/kids can continue #joshpowell #susanpowell
4 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Judge Nelson: Powell kids removed because of "extreme child porn" in home. Needs to determine if Josh knew. #joshpowell #susancoxpowell
4 hours ago
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Judge Nelson: wants another review for planning of permanent placement of Powell kids around end of July. #joshpowell #susancoxpowell
4 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Judge Kathryn Nelson: rules Powell to undergo psychosexual exammand polygraph. #joshpowell #susancoxpowell #FindSusan
4 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
State: concern caused by images on Powell's computer and arrest of Steve Powell on sex charges. #joshpowell #susancoxpowell #FindSusan
4 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
State: says questionable images on Josh Powell's computer indicate he should complete psychosexual evaluation. #joshpowell #susancoxpowell
4 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
State: injuries w/Powell kids accidents. Investigated and "typical" of kids. #joshpowell #susancoxpowell #FindSusan
4 hours ago
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Powell atty: case manipulated by "outside sources". Says kids belong back with Josh Powell. #joshpowell #susancoxpowell #FindSusan
4 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Powell atty: Josh Powell denies ever looking at "kiddie porn". Isn't responsible for questionable images on computer. #susancoxpowell
4 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Powell atty: says images "as described" in "bad taste" but not illegal. Says Josh Powell doesn't know what they are #susancoxpowell
4 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Powell atty: says police in Utah claimed questionable images on computer disk from Powell. Hasn't seen them #joshpowell #susancoxpowell
4 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Powell atty: worried about safety and supervision re: Chuck Cox and 2 incidents involving minor injuries. #joshpowell #susancoxpowell
4 hours ago
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Powell atty: no incidents whatsoever. No safety issues re: Powell kids visits with Josh Powell. #joshpowell #susancoxpowell #FindSusan
4 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Powell atty: Josh Powell doing everything he is supposed to do. No longer lives at his father's home. Steve Powell now jailed on sex charges
4 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Guardian and Dr: should be no expansion of Powell visit w/kids @ this time. Josh should follow recommendations. #joshpowell #susancoxpowell
4 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Guardian: children are doing very well in Cox home and should remain there. Josh should follow recommendations. #susancoxpowell #joshpowell
4 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Guardian from state: Powell kids "bonding" with grandparents. One suffered 2nd degree burns in accident. #joshpowell #susancoxpowell
4 hours ago
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
State: Dr. doing review recommends Josh Powell's kids stay with Chuck Cox. #joshpowell #susancoxpowell #susanpowell #FindSusan
4 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
State: Dr. says Josh Powell should undergo "psychosexual" evaluation. #joshpowell #susancoxpowell #susanpowell #FindSusan
4 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
State: Dr. recommends"moderate expansion" of visitation for Josh Powell & his kids. #joshpowell #susancoxpowell #susanpowell #FindSusan
4 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
State; Dr. who evaluated Powell kids and Josh says he should get into counseling w/Dr. #susanpowell #susancoxpowell #FindSusan #joshpowell
4 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
State says issues re: where children should reside. Says should stay with g'parent Chuck Cox. #susanpowell #susancoxpowell #FindSusan
4 hours ago
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Judge Kathryn Nelson: Powell custody case "stayed"'court focuses on dependency case by state of Wa. #susancoxpowell #susanpowell #FindSusan
4 hours ago
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Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Josh Powell just came into court. Looks like we're about get underway. #susanpowell #susancoxpowell #FindSusan pic.twitter.com/MSNTgws9
5 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
@
@tinawoods1981 will do.
5 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Chuck Cox waiting for hearing on custody of his grandchildren. #susanpowell #susancoxpowell #FindSusan pic.twitter.com/IcTwIOLA (http://pic.twitter.com/IcTwIOLA)
5 hours ago
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Josh Powell outside court as custody hearing is about to start #FindSusan #susanpowell. Susan's father Chuck Cox just walked in.
5 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
@
@StartRunning2 yes I'll be tweeting from the Powell custody hearing
5 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Getting set up in court now as we prepare for a hearing over custody of Joshua Powell's kids. I'll have live tweets #FindSusan
5 hours ago
Kevin McCarty
KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
Another court hearing about to get underway in the battle over custody of Joshua Powell's kids. #FindSusan.
5 hours ago


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: labubske on February 01, 2012, 09:54:35 PM
Website supporting Josh Powell is taken down

A website launched late last week by the family of Joshua Powell — which leveled child abuse allegations against the parents of missing West Valley City mother Susan Powell — was unavailable Tuesday and listed as "disabled."

The website claimed that Chuck and Judy Cox, who have temporary custody of their daughter’s two sons, either abused the boys or allowed them to come to harm.

Those allegations were countered Monday by an attorney for the Cox family, who said the boys were "in a safe and loving home with their maternal grandparents."

Titled "4thekidzz" at http://sites.google.com/site/4thekidzz/, the website also accuses the West Valley City Police Department of incompetence in handling the case of Susan Powell and claims law enforcement has harassed Josh Powell during the course of their investigation.

A note from Google on the now-blank site states it was taken down for "violations of our Terms of Service."

 ::snipping2::

http://**/sltrib/news/53412902-78/powell-website-josh-police.html.csp

The website is there now.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on February 01, 2012, 09:56:19 PM
Was Josh representing himself again?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on February 02, 2012, 12:01:45 AM
Was Josh representing himself again?

His lawyer, Jeff Bassett, was in court.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on February 02, 2012, 12:14:37 AM
3-page article

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705398538/Josh-Powell-to-undergo-psychosexual-evaluation-2-boys-will-remain-with-grandparents.html?pg=1

Josh Powell to undergo psychosexual evaluation; 2 boys will remain with grandparents
By Pat Reavy, Deseret News
Published: Wednesday, Feb. 1 2012 4:12 p.m. MST

TACOMA, Wash. — A judge on Wednesday ordered Josh Powell to undergo a psychosexual evaluation, which includes a polygraph test.

The order came during a hearing about the custody status of his two young boys.

Pierce County Superior Court Judge Kathryn Nelson also ordered that for now, his children will remain in the custody of his in-laws, the parents of missing Utah mother Susan Cox Powell . She disappeared more than two years ago from her West Valley home.
 ::snipping2::
A psychosexual evaluation looks at whether a person is a risk to commit sexual misconduct in the future. The evaluation is based on several factors, including sexual history and family history. Prosecutors said a lie detector test will be part of the evaluation.
 ::snipping2::
Jeff Bassett, Powell's attorney, questioned the validity of the images and noted there wasn't any concrete proof that  they even belonged to his client.

"Utah has some disc with some allegedly questionable images on it," he said.
 ::snipping2::
Meanwhile, Julio Serrano, the guardian ad litem in the case, said he noticed improvement in the two boys since the last time he met with them.

"The children are doing very well in the Cox home," he said. "My recommendation is to remain in that environment."
 ::snipping2::
Josh Powell will continue to have two three-hour supervised visits with his boys each week. Another dependence hearing was scheduled for July 26. The court reaffirmed Wednesday that its ultimate goal is to reunite Powell with his children.

Josh Powell has said he took his boys, then 2 and 4, on a late night camping trip in freezing temperatures the day his wife disappeared from their West Valley City home in December of 2009.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on February 02, 2012, 01:02:56 PM
 ::snipping2::

Pierce County Superior Court Judge Kathryn J. Nelson sided with recommendations that Charlie, 7, and Braden, 5, remain in the Puyallup, Wash., home of Chuck and Judy Cox. Nelson also ordered Josh Powell to undergo a psychosexual exam and take a polygraph test to determine any knowledge he has related to images West Valley City police found on a computer confiscated during a 2009 search of the Powell home.

Those images are separate from the child pornography charges against Josh Powell’s father, Steve.

West Valley City police on Wednesday confirmed the department "discovered information specifically related to [the Powell children’s] welfare" during their investigation and passed that evidence along to Washington authorities.

 ::snipping2::

Bassett said he has not seen the images, and Josh Powell is not allowed to view the images due to a court order.

Long, who has viewed the images, defended the recommendations.

"It’s not a fishing expedition," Long said. "The content of those images ... is not something you would soon forget."

Long added that images are part of a criminal investigation in Utah and that the Utah judge overseeing the evidence in that case only wanted information related to the images released if there was a possibility of the Powell children being returned to Josh Powell’s home.

 ::snipping2::

http://**/sltrib/news/53422968-78/powell-court-josh-sons.html.csp


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on February 02, 2012, 01:05:51 PM
Powell brother launches website critical of investigation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oik6mxQ2RCE&feature=player_embedded#!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on February 03, 2012, 06:46:10 PM
http://mynorthwest.com/11/621884/Josh-Powell-must-take-sex-deviancy-test-to-get-kids-back

Updated Feb 3, 2012 - 9:26 am
Josh Powell must take sex deviancy test to get kids back

Josh Powell has a big decision to make. His wife is the former Puyallup woman who went missing from their Utah home in December 2009. A judge says she won't consider Powell's request for custody of the couple's two children until he undergoes a psycho-sexual evaluation.

It's an exam typically conducted by a psychologist, licensed by the state as a sexual offender treatment provider. Bellevue criminal defense attorney Robert Perez says the exam is invasive, embarrassing and unpleasant.

"A person who goes through one of these experiences is asked about virtually every development in their life, their childhood history, their family history, their educational history and, of course, every intimate detail of their sexual history," said Perez.

The goal is to find out if the subject is a sexual deviant, if they're dangerous and if they are amenable to treatment.
 ::snipping2::
The exams usually include a polygraph test but attorney Perez opposes them calling them "unreliable."

The evaluations are often required by the court before a plea agreement or sentencing of a sex offender. In the case of Josh Powell, it's voluntary and there are risks.

"You're exposing yourself to the most intimate details of your life to a stranger and you don't know what's going to happen to this report," said Perez, who points out that the findings are subject to release under the state's open records law.

If Powell really wants to regain custody of his children, he might have no choice but to submit to the psycho-sexual evaluation.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on February 04, 2012, 11:24:52 PM
http://**/sltrib/sports/53440958-78/powell-sexual-josh-evaluation.html.csp?page=1

Exam will unveil Josh Powell’s sexual history, preferences
First published Feb 04 2012 08:01AM
Updated 2 minutes ago

 ::snipping2::
“It’s kind of like a sexual profile of the individual. It’s a risk-assessment tool,” explained Mary Fan, a law professor at the University of Washington. “In Washington state, you see it in a number of decision points in the court process.”

While more commonly used in criminal proceedings where judges must assess how likely a defendant is to reoffend or determine housing and treatment, the evaluations can also be ordered in civil matters.

In Washington, licensed evaluators may examine police reports, child protective services information, criminal correctional history, interviews with the client and his family, and other data. At a minimum, they must address a description of the allegations against a person; a person’s sexual history and preferences; previous attempts to remediate problem behavior; and risk factors that may lead them to repeat problem behavior.

Risk factors can include a person’s stress level, alcohol and drug use, mood, sexual patterns, use of pornography, social and environmental influences, medical history, relationships, employment, education and family history.

Besides undergoing a paper-and-pencil evaluation, Josh Powell may possibly be subjected to a penile plethysmograph — which measures the bloodflow to a penis. The plethysmograph is administered with a strain gage, which measures an erection response while a person is shown slides and tapes of normal sexual behavior as well as deviant acts.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on February 05, 2012, 05:24:22 PM
Josh~ you MF'ing rotten POS pig........I can only pray you are in hell now, but your boys deserved better. Praying for the Cox family, their pain and loss must be beyond anything I could comprehend.

http://**/sltrib/news/53450136-78/powell-josh-sons-explosion.html.csp


Authorities believe an explosion and fire at the home of Josh Powell has killed him and his two children.

Police are awaiting verification from the Medical Examiner’s Office, but they believe the three dead are the husband of missing Utah woman Susan Powell and their two children, said Ed Troyer of the Pierce County Sheriff’s Office.

KOMO News reported the explosion took place at about 1:30 p.m. Sunday, and flames roared through the home near the intersection of 182nd Street and 84th Avenue.

A case worker had just dropped off Powell’s sons at the home for a supervised visit, the source said. Powell then shut the door on the caseworker and locked it.

The case worker then reported smelling gas fumes, and then an explosion ripped through the home.

Last week, a judge ordered that Powell’s sons, Charlie, 7 and Braden, 5, remain in the custody of their grandparents, Chuck and Judy Cox.

 ::snipping2:: ::MonkeyHang:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: flutter1 on February 05, 2012, 05:25:21 PM
OMG

Quote
Police: Explosion kills Josh Powell, his two sons
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The Salt Lake Tribune
First published 34 minutes ago
Updated 1 minute ago

Authorities believe an explosion and fire at the home of Josh Powell has killed him and his two children.

Police are awaiting verification from the Medical Examiner’s Office, but they believe the three dead are the husband of missing Utah woman Susan Powell and their two children, said Ed Troyer of the Pierce County Sheriff’s Office.

KOMO News reported the explosion took place at about 1:30 p.m. Sunday, and flames roared through the home near the intersection of 182nd Street and 84th Avenue.

A case worker had just dropped off Powell’s sons at the home for a supervised visit, the source said. Powell then shut the door on the caseworker and locked it.

The case worker then reported smelling gas fumes, and then an explosion ripped through the home.

Last week, a judge ordered that Powell’s sons, Charlie, 7 and Braden, 5, remain in the custody of their grandparents, Chuck and Judy Cox.

The boys were removed from Josh Powell’s custody on Sept. 22, the same day Josh Powell’s father, Steve Powell, with whom the three were living, was arrested and charged for possessing child pornography.

Josh Powell has denied any role in his wife’s disappearance and recently asked the judge to move his sons to a neutral caretaker, claiming his missing wife’s parents — who have publicly implicated Josh Powell in their daughter’s disappearance — are turning their two sons against him.

Susan Powell was reported missing Dec. 7, 2009. Her husband told police he last saw his wife around midnight, when he put their sons in the family’s minivan and took them on a late-night camping trip in Utah’s west desert.

http://**/sltrib/news/53450136-78/powell-explosion-josh-sons.html.csp (http://**/sltrib/news/53450136-78/powell-explosion-josh-sons.html.csp)

God have mercy on his dark soul.  Two angels met God today.   ::MonkeyAngel::
 ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on February 05, 2012, 05:30:20 PM
 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

http://www.king5.com/news/local/Josh-Powells-home-explodes-two-bodies-found-inside-138747519.html



GRAHAM, Wash. – An explosion occurred this afternoon at the home of Josh Powell, who is a person of interest in the disappearance of his wife, Susan Powell.

Graham Deputy Fire Chief Gary Franz said at about a quarter to one, Powell was having a home visitation with his two young boys when the caseworker – who was outside - smelled gas. A short time later the home exploded.

Firefighters quickly knocked down the fire and discovered the bodies of what appear to be two children, Franz said.

Powell has not been located.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Ok, not in hell yet, you just killed your kids you miserable coward, I hope they find you and torture you OR better yet hand you over to the Cox family..........


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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: can on February 05, 2012, 05:43:03 PM
 ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::

Those poor angels never stood a chance!



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on February 05, 2012, 05:44:47 PM
::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::

Those poor angels never stood a chance!


I agree, and never understood why anyone would even give him supervised visitations...at least the boys will be with there mother again, but the pain the Cox family will live with forever is unimaginable, he was the key to her body.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: can on February 05, 2012, 05:47:46 PM
IM - thank you for bringing this here.  I was shocied and horrified when Frederica Whitfield
broke this and didn't know how to bring this tragic news here.

Children have been failed again. ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

I believe Powell will be found in the home when it is safe enough for authorites to enter.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: can on February 05, 2012, 05:51:21 PM
::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::

Those poor angels never stood a chance!


I agree, and never understood why anyone would even give him supervised visitations...at least the boys will be with there mother again, but the pain the Cox family will live with forever is unimaginable, he was the key to her body.

yes and the boys gave them a purpose and comfort that they were caring for Susans' children as she would have wished.

I have always felt uncomfortable knowing they were living so close to one another. 
But, my fear was that he'd kidnap and run with them



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on February 05, 2012, 05:55:59 PM
IM - thank you for bringing this here.  I was shocied and horrified when Frederica Whitfield
broke this and didn't know how to bring this tragic news here.

Children have been failed again. ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

I believe Powell will be found in the home when it is safe enough for authorites to enter.
So much tragedy, it's enough to make you toss your computer away and stop watching the news..I do think his body has been found, but he left this world IMO way to easy. Thank you for telling me about Frederica, I didn't know that either:(


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on February 05, 2012, 06:00:59 PM
OMG I just saw, how horribly sad for the Cox family, OMG


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on February 05, 2012, 06:02:38 PM
No accident, IMO, it was a murder suicide.  I'm sick.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on February 05, 2012, 06:06:23 PM
No accident, IMO, it was a murder suicide.  I'm sick.

Me too, he locked the caseworker out of the house. This is a prime example of why I considered the unimaginable, leaving the country if my ex had supervised visitation.....men when they feel they have been wronged or rejected by a woman sometimes loose it and take it out on everyone, we see it over and over, why don't they just kill themselves instead? It's the most sickening story I have heard in a long time, I literally wanted to vomit when I read the news.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on February 05, 2012, 06:08:34 PM
http://www.fox13now.com/kstu-powell-explosion-rescue-operation-at-steven-powell-home-in-puyallup-20120205,0,3207152.story (http://www.fox13now.com/kstu-powell-explosion-rescue-operation-at-steven-powell-home-in-puyallup-20120205,0,3207152.story)

Josh Powell, two sons killed in "intentional" explosion of Powell's Washington home

Brittany Green-Miner, Web Content Producer Fox 13

3:56 p.m. MST, February 5, 2012
GRAHAM, Wash.—

Washington police say Josh Powell and his two young sons have been killed in an explosion at the Powells' Graham, Wash., home.

The Pierce County Sheriff's Office confirmed to FOX 13 that Josh Powell and his two sons were killed in a planned, intentional explosion Sunday afternoon at the Graham home of Steven Powell.

CNN reports that a case worker had just dropped off Powell's sons at the home for a supervised visit at around 12:45 p.m. Washington time.

As the children got close to the door, Powell somehow got them inside but prevented the case worker from getting in as well, Graham, Washington, Fire and Rescue Deputy Chief Gary Franz told CNN.

The case worker reported smelling something similar to gas, said Franz. A short time later, the house exploded.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on February 05, 2012, 06:11:50 PM
I feel so bad for the Cox family.  They tried everything in their power to protect those children. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: can on February 05, 2012, 06:11:55 PM
IM - thank you for bringing this here.  I was shocied and horrified when Frederica Whitfield
broke this and didn't know how to bring this tragic news here.

Children have been failed again. ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

I believe Powell will be found in the home when it is safe enough for authorites to enter.
So much tragedy, it's enough to make you toss your computer away and stop watching the news..I do think his body has been found, but he left this world IMO way to easy. Thank you for telling me about Frederica, I didn't know that either:(

Way too easy, the sick POS! 

It's time for children's rights to trump the rights of those in question!
He should not have been allowed any visits with the children after the the judge requested evaluation.

 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on February 05, 2012, 06:14:12 PM
I feel so bad for the Cox family.  They tried everything in their power to protect those children. 

I agree, that was my first thought ....I put myself in their place and think how could I go on? I'm not sure I could to be honest, and who on earth could imagine something so horrific ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: can on February 05, 2012, 06:15:13 PM
I feel so bad for the Cox family.  They tried everything in their power to protect those children. 

It's too sad for words. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: can on February 05, 2012, 06:16:17 PM
I feel so bad for the Cox family.  They tried everything in their power to protect those children. 

I agree, that was my first thought ....I put myself in their place and think how could I go on? I'm not sure I could to be honest, and who on earth could imagine something so horrific ::MonkeyNoNo::

My thoughts exactly!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on February 05, 2012, 06:17:35 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/explosion-at-wash-home-kills-josh-powell-husband-of-missing-utah-woman-2-young-sons/2012/02/05/gIQAqvEMsQ_story.html

Explosion at Wash. home kills Josh Powell, husband of missing Utah woman, 2 young son

GRAHAM, Wash. — A lawyer for Josh Powell says he received a three-word email from his client just minutes before Powell and his two boys died in a house explosion. It said, “I’m sorry, goodbye.”

Attorney Jeffrey Bassett tells The Associated Press the email arrived at 12:05 p.m. Sunday, but he didn’t see it until two hours later, when others informed him of the blast. He says he knew Josh was upset after being ordered to undergo a psycho-sexual evaluation recently, but he didn’t see this coming.


Steve Downing, a lawyer for the boys’ maternal grandparents, says they are beyond devastated. They always feared Josh would do something like this.


 ::snipping2::

OMG- it just gets worse and worse with every article I read....


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: akmom on February 05, 2012, 06:17:40 PM
Josh Powell, you dirty scumbag POS, eternity is not long enough for you to burn in hell.

Steve Powell, I hope you end up with your son SOON.

Sweet little boys, I am sure you are now reunited with your mother and she is holding you close.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cookie on February 05, 2012, 06:24:15 PM
Just horrible news!   I am devastated for Susan's family.  God bless them.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Green Eyes on February 05, 2012, 06:24:47 PM
I feels so bad for the Cox family. Rest in Peace Angels and may the man that called himself your father ROT IN HELL.  Like everyone else I am sick to hear the news.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: flutter1 on February 05, 2012, 06:34:47 PM
No accident, IMO, it was a murder suicide.  I'm sick.

Me too, he locked the caseworker out of the house. This is a prime example of why I considered the unimaginable, leaving the country if my ex had supervised visitation.....men when they feel they have been wronged or rejected by a woman sometimes loose it and take it out on everyone, we see it over and over, why don't they just kill themselves instead? It's the most sickening story I have heard in a long time, I literally wanted to vomit when I read the news.

This is exactly why I would never let CPS act as supervisors for my gd's vistation with her bio-dad.  There is absolutely no protection for the children. 

This is so sad.   I can not imagine the pain that Susan's parents must be going through.  First their daughter and now their to grandsons.  I can only hope they find some way to turn this tragedy into something positive.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on February 05, 2012, 06:53:58 PM
I just heard this.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: theboyzmom on February 05, 2012, 07:21:16 PM
I just read this and my heart broke. What a selfish self centered pos josh is. The poor Grandparents. I just can not even begin to imagine their pain! I will say an extra prayer for them and that Josh is rotting in HE!! as we speak!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: TnMuse on February 05, 2012, 07:27:10 PM
I feel so bad for the Cox family.  They tried everything in their power to protect those children. 

It's too sad for words. 


It sure is, and I know the hurt we feel is only a speck compared to what the Cox Family is going through.

Here is more info, he probably explained how it was anybody's fault but Josh's. http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Authorities-Powell-intentionally-blew-up-house-3050798.php
snip...
Sgt. Ed Troyer, Pierce County sheriff's spokesman, said emails Powell sent authorities seemed to confirm the Powell planned the deadly blast. Troyer didn't elaborate on the contents of the emails.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: TnMuse on February 05, 2012, 07:35:30 PM
It could be just the same email that he sent to his lawyer.

http://news.google.com/nwshp?hl=en&tab=wn&ar=1328486591
 ::snipping2::
Troyer said the sheriff's department has copies of an e-mail that reportedly says, "I am sorry, goodbye," and that was sent to Jeffrey Bassett, a Washington lawyer who has been representing Powell, purportedly from Powell shortly before the explosion.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: TnMuse on February 05, 2012, 07:37:10 PM
It could be just the same email that he sent to his lawyer.

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/02/05/us/washington-powell-explosion/
 ::snipping2::
Troyer said the sheriff's department has copies of an e-mail that reportedly says, "I am sorry, goodbye," and that was sent to Jeffrey Bassett, a Washington lawyer who has been representing Powell, purportedly from Powell shortly before the explosion.
Sorry URL was wrong.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: texasmom on February 05, 2012, 07:51:11 PM
OMG, I just saw the news.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyTears::

My heart breaks for the Cox family, they tried so hard to keep them safe and now those precious boys and their only link to Susan is gone.  Sad beyond words...  Prayers of comfort for them.

That selfish murdering COWARD!   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on February 05, 2012, 07:51:27 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::
I just listened to the video with Kirk Graves, Chuck heard about it and went to the house to see if it was true, again....I can't imagine the pain, anguish he and his family are going thru, also the comment from Hill wrt "if we had known he was suicidal" pizzed me off, hello you moron-the Cox' said they feared this all along, and he finally did it today, surely anyone knowing they had to undergo the evaluation he was looking at , and obviously the prime suspect is an extremeley volatile person that would stop at NOTHING to cause greater pain.  ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::
I sure hope Steve and Michael Powell are happy with their actions , hope nothing bad happens to them (ok, that was a lie.....I just can't post what I wish happens to them)
 ::MonkeyRoll::


http://**/sltrib/sports/53450136-78/powell-josh-police-washington.html.csp

Bassett said he knew Josh was upset after a judge last week ordered that Powell’s sons, Charlie, 7 and Braden, 5, remain in the custody of their grandparents, Chuck and Judy Cox. The judge also ordered Josh to undergo a psycho-sexual evaluation.

Hill said her office had no idea that Powell had anything like this planned.

"We would have gone back to court had we any indication that Josh Powell was suicidal," Hill said.

She called the situation tragic.

"It’s a terrible tragedy that these poor children especially had to suffer and die because of the actions of their father," Hill said.










Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on February 05, 2012, 07:58:03 PM
I feel so bad for the Cox family.  They tried everything in their power to protect those children. 

It's too sad for words. 


It sure is, and I know the hurt we feel is only a speck compared to what the Cox Family is going through.

Here is more info, he probably explained how it was anybody's fault but Josh's. http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Authorities-Powell-intentionally-blew-up-house-3050798.php
snip...
Sgt. Ed Troyer, Pierce County sheriff's spokesman, said emails Powell sent authorities seemed to confirm the Powell planned the deadly blast. Troyer didn't elaborate on the contents of the emails.


Oh great........... now it comes out he sent all these emails. I wonder if he was even in the house or escaped in an attempt to throw people off and have time to get away.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cartfly on February 05, 2012, 08:26:34 PM
No accident, IMO, it was a murder suicide.  I'm sick.

Me too, he locked the caseworker out of the house. This is a prime example of why I considered the unimaginable, leaving the country if my ex had supervised visitation.....men when they feel they have been wronged or rejected by a woman sometimes loose it and take it out on everyone, we see it over and over, why don't they just kill themselves instead? It's the most sickening story I have heard in a long time, I literally wanted to vomit when I read the news.
That sick SOB! He couldn't end just his life he had to drive that nail further through the hearts of Susan's family. I am in complete shock...


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: 4getUnot on February 05, 2012, 08:28:10 PM
No words at the moment..................
::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: 4getUnot on February 05, 2012, 08:36:42 PM
Here is  a link to Josh's brother in law's reation -


"Josh Powell's brother-in-law Kirk Graves reacts to explosion that killed Josh, son"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qihD1pO4xwk


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: CarolF on February 05, 2012, 08:37:00 PM
So So Upset! I live just miles from there and this is such a tragedy. I am glad Josh is dead but to kill his babies....omg that was the second most cruelest thing he could do to his children. I am so sorry for the grandparents. Words just escape me. He did not care about anyone but himself this certainly proves it. I am just so angry right now. I think there is no doubt in anyone's mind now that he killed his wife.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cookie on February 05, 2012, 08:40:14 PM
Sadly, Susan's parents will never know where  she is now...
He is such a POS..
Words fail me really


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Anna on February 05, 2012, 08:43:29 PM
Those poor babies!  Trying to wrap my head around this but mostly speechless at the moment.

Yes, may he burn in hell!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Samarie on February 05, 2012, 08:44:21 PM
Since hearing of this latest tragedy, committed by Josh Powell, I can only picture the boys smiling as they are greeted by their mother in a much better place. A place where Josh can never hurt any of them ever again. I hope he rots in hell!

 My heart breaks for Susan's family, may they find strength and solace someday in knowing that their daughter has been reunited with her children.

Sooo sad......I bet josh didn't even have the decency to reveal the location of Susan's body in any of the emails he sent out.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: theboyzmom on February 05, 2012, 08:53:30 PM
Just got this from the F&F of Susan's facebook page:
"I just heard that Steve Powell is on suicide watch. Hope he says where Susan is and soon."

https://www.facebook.com/groups/198478842187/

Hope I posted the link right - I have never done a FB link before . . . .


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on February 05, 2012, 08:57:37 PM
OMG!  I just heard about it!  I feared for the boys' safety from the very beginning of this case. RIP sweet angels.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: cartfly on February 05, 2012, 09:06:41 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/307068_2416267014497_1485991286_2615194_3632821_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on February 05, 2012, 09:13:17 PM
Oh, my God.  I just saw the news.  He murdered her boys.  Her poor parents.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on February 05, 2012, 09:17:53 PM
He should NEVER have been allowed to have those children visit in that home.  Supervised visits should take place in a neutral location.  I'm so upset.  This is just so wrong. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on February 05, 2012, 09:23:36 PM
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/blast-kills-husband-of-1333638.html
Quote
Troyer said Steven Powell was put on suicide watch in custody after he was told of the deadly blast.

"Steve Powell didn't seem very upset by the news, but was angry towards authorities who notified him," Troyer said.

 ::MonkeyMad::
This speaks volumes.  I hope he starts some of his ranting and lets slip with where his monster son hide Susan's remains.

 ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on February 05, 2012, 09:30:08 PM
http://**/sltrib/news/53450136-78/powell-josh-fire-washington.html.csp
Quote
The boys went into the home, and Josh Powell locked out the social worker, who pounded on door and window, then tried to call Josh Powell’s cell phone, Troyer said.
Police: Josh Powell set fire that killed him, his two sons
He said the house "lit up" about three minutes after social worker was locked out, and burned with a ferocity that prompted witnesses to believe the home had exploded.

I doubt this had anything to do with him really wanting to raise his sons and more to do with the required exam revealing to the world that he's a sick freak.  He knew his time was up to be viewed as a okay guy.  He wanted to control the situation and he didn't want a judge or Susan's parents telling him what to do. 

I'd like to bring him back to life and then blow his sorry azz apart again.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on February 05, 2012, 09:32:50 PM
http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/42b86aa05569462da38bcdc2a6073c02/US-Utah-Missing-Mom-Explosion/

Explosion at Wash. home kills Josh Powell, husband of missing Utah woman, 2 young sons
GENE JOHNSON  Associated Press
First Posted: February 05, 2012 - 5:01 pm
Last Updated: February 05, 2012 - 8:26 pm

 ::snipping2::
Sherry Hill, a spokeswoman for the state Department of Social and Health Services, said the social worker who was with the children was not a Child Protective Services employee but a contract worker with a private agency that supervises visits for the state.

"The visit supervisor for this particular agency had taken the children to the home. When she does that, she sits through the visit and might take notes on her observations," Hill said. "She pulled up in the car, and the kids ran out ahead of her. He closed the door and locked it. She wasn't able to get in, and that's when she smelled gas."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on February 05, 2012, 09:34:41 PM
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2012/feb/05/dshs-official-explains-visitation-schedule-brought/

DSHS official explains visitation schedule that brought sons to Powell’s home
Quote
“We were relieved to learn that the case worker was not physically injured but understand that she is suffering from grave emotional trauma as a result of the horrific event. The sadness of such a thing touches everyone involved with these children. We will be offering peer support to the case worker, as well as our own staff members.

Poor woman.  She'll have to relive that experience all her life.  Thanks, Josh.  Another life ruined.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: BooMonkey on February 05, 2012, 09:40:57 PM
I just found out!! OMG, that piece of crap did it! Self centered ass! He not only took Susan out, he had no qualms of killing those boys! I hope he burns in the 7th level of hell!

I'm so angry right now.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Samarie on February 05, 2012, 09:44:15 PM
Kittymom, I agree with everything you've said....

After all that's come to light about the character and deviant behaviors exhibited of Steven and Josh Powell, I wonder if Susan was killed during some perverted sexual fantasy fulfilled, or maybe she had discovered child porn on Josh's computer and confronted him the night he claims she disappeared. I hope to hell those poor boys were never the subject of any pics hidden somewhere on the hard drives of Steven or Josh"s computers.

I think LE may release more info regarding Susan's disappearence now that her killer has "confessed!"


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on February 05, 2012, 10:00:33 PM
I think Susan caught Josh molesting the boys.  I wouldn't be surprised if Steven molested Josh and the 2 of them molested the boys.  Susan found out and was killed.  Josh and his father are evil. 

I'm just sick about this.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on February 05, 2012, 10:02:34 PM
So many ppl I wish would rot in hell at the moment, someone posted this on Friends of Susan's Powell's FB wall and deleted it:

(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6274/50crj.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/338/50crj.png/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)


Here is the original message that was posted: (fake profile name) Nathan Leach
Congrats, you have successfully completed the adult version of a cyber bullying campaign to it's logical conclusion. For every one of you that made a false CPS report (yeah, I have screenies of it), called up his job to get him fired, watched out your window from across the street to make sure everyone knew where to get him, you have successfully exceeded any low levels of depravity that Josh or Steven ever hit. To the Cox family: I'm sorry, I tried to get people there when I got an email from him what I assume is an hour before. He had so much terror because of the actions by some people here that he would not give an address, so I did not know it. I called local 911 within minutes and they told me THEY COULD NOT FIND AN ADDRESS FOR HIS PHONE NUMBER! I'm so far away that I was helpless to do anything.


I hope they track this sick *edit language* down too.....crazies coming out of the woodwork.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on February 05, 2012, 10:04:08 PM
forgot the link of the link from the one that got a screenshot:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/198478842187/#!/michele.rideout


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: theboyzmom on February 05, 2012, 10:06:28 PM
I think Susan caught Josh molesting the boys.  I wouldn't be surprised if Steven molested Josh and the 2 of them molested the boys.  Susan found out and was killed.  Josh and his father are evil. 

I'm just sick about this.

I believe you are correct - I wonder if the boys were some of the pictures that were on the hard drive. One article I read (sorry I do not remember which one!) said that the boys were starting to talk about the night Susan went missing and Josh was scared. JMO but it makes sense.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on February 05, 2012, 10:13:18 PM
I think Susan caught Josh molesting the boys.  I wouldn't be surprised if Steven molested Josh and the 2 of them molested the boys.  Susan found out and was killed.  Josh and his father are evil. 

I'm just sick about this.

I believe you are correct - I wonder if the boys were some of the pictures that were on the hard drive. One article I read (sorry I do not remember which one!) said that the boys were starting to talk about the night Susan went missing and Josh was scared. JMO but it makes sense.
  And ppl wonder why some take matters into their own hands, had I caught my ex in the act I swear I would have killed him , the rage I felt 9 months later when I saw him in a parking lot and actually considered it can only be described as an out of body experience where you are not thinking, you are just viscerally reacting, and I can't tell you how long I actually contemplated it...scary to think of now, but again I would gladly have gone to jail also if that is what it took to protect him.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on February 05, 2012, 10:16:23 PM
 ::snipping2::

On Sunday, the lawyer for Susan Powell's parents, Chuck and Judy Cox, told the AP the children had started talking to their grandparents about things they remembered from the night their mother vanished.

"They were beginning to verbalize more," said attorney Steve Downing, whose clients had custody of the children. "The oldest boy talked about that they went camping and that Mommy was in the trunk. Mom and Dad got out of the car and Mom disappeared"

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=19132089&title=josh-powell-2-sons-killed-in-house-explosion&s_cid=featured-1


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on February 05, 2012, 10:22:26 PM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kcpq-jailed-father-of-josh-powell-placed-on-suicide-watch-20120205,0,5539238.story (http://www.fox13now.com/news/kcpq-jailed-father-of-josh-powell-placed-on-suicide-watch-20120205,0,5539238.story)

(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/359562/thumbs/s-STEVEN-POWELL-large.jpg)

IMO someone needs to put a vise on his nuts and tighten it until he talks.  This bastard knows what happened to Susan. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on February 05, 2012, 10:23:33 PM
Live stream.
http://www.fox13now.com/news/thesearchforsusanpowell/kstu-powell-explosion-rescue-operation-at-steven-powell-home-in-puyallup-20120205,0,4067156.story


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on February 05, 2012, 10:24:37 PM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kcpq-jailed-father-of-josh-powell-placed-on-suicide-watch-20120205,0,5539238.story (http://www.fox13now.com/news/kcpq-jailed-father-of-josh-powell-placed-on-suicide-watch-20120205,0,5539238.story)

(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/359562/thumbs/s-STEVEN-POWELL-large.jpg)

IMO someone needs to put a vise on his nuts and tighten it until he talks.  This bastard knows what happened to Susan. 

Pick me - pick me......although I am sure there are soooooo many who would volunteer IF he had any nuts, seems he, Josh and the other sick brother Michael have no balls.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on February 05, 2012, 10:33:25 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/CaseSignal (https://twitter.com/#!/CaseSignal)
Case Signal (BeanE) @CaseSignal
Per Ben Winslow's tweet to me, the 2 hour special will be livestreamed at fox13now.com/live/ (http://fox13now.com/live/) #FindSusan (#post_FindSusan) #SusanPowell (#post_SusanPowell)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on February 05, 2012, 11:14:34 PM
How shocking, stunning and sickening.

I hope the two boys didn't suffer.

I feel so bad for the grandparents: they lost their daughter and now their two grandsons.

Pure evil!  He seemed that way from the very beginning to me.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on February 05, 2012, 11:15:31 PM
Just listening to the link you provided Trim and they are stating an accelerant was used, another OMG....it's beyond evil what he did and he not only was a control freak who wanted to punish everyone , which could have included the neighbors with that explosion but also was sure to pour salt in the wound of everyone in his mind that wronged him......is it hot enough for you Joshie....don't worry, my bet is your daddy and brother will join you one day. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on February 05, 2012, 11:23:30 PM
I can just see the little guys climbing out of the case worker's car yelling, "Daddy, Daddy!" and then feeling confused and frightened when Josh slammed the door on the cw and she starts banging and crying out for him to open up.  I pray he didn't have time to say a word about the evil he'd planned for them before the deed.  I hope they didn't suffer and didn't feel and fear or pain.  But, being the monster that he was, I'm sure Josh didn't miss a chance to tell those poor little boys that he was going to fix things so they would never see their grandparents again. 

 ::MonkeyMad::

Laws and policies should be changed.  Rent an office space and have supervised visits in a room decorated for comfort.  If parents really want to see their kids, they won't mind it being in a safe environment. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: klaasend on February 05, 2012, 11:30:15 PM
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2012/02/josh-powell-susan-fire-explosion-murder.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2012/02/josh-powell-susan-fire-explosion-murder.html)

Police call fire Powell's virtual confession to wife's murder
February 5, 2012 |  7:36 pm

Police say the fire that engulfed Josh Powell's home in Washington state Sunday, apparently killing him and his two young sons, was deliberately set -- and as far as they're concerned, that concludes the long-running investigation into the disappearance of Powell's wife, Susan.

"This is not a tragedy. This is a double homicide," Pierce County Sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer told The Los Angeles Times.

Josh Powell had been a person of interest in the disappearance of his wife, then a 28-year-old stockbroker who vanished from their former home in Utah in December 2009. He had denied any involvement, brushing off questions about why he took the boys camping in the middle of the night during a snowstorm on the night his wife vanished.

"This is a guy who murdered his two kids, and probably murdered his wife. I don't know what Utah police think, but as far as we're concerned, this is pretty close to a confession to the crime," Troyer said.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: texasmom on February 05, 2012, 11:43:49 PM
I think Susan caught Josh molesting the boys.  I wouldn't be surprised if Steven molested Josh and the 2 of them molested the boys.  Susan found out and was killed.  Josh and his father are evil. 

I'm just sick about this.

Yes, they are evil and this scenario wouldn't surprise me at all.

I'm sick about it too.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: texasmom on February 06, 2012, 12:01:03 AM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kcpq-jailed-father-of-josh-powell-placed-on-suicide-watch-20120205,0,5539238.story (http://www.fox13now.com/news/kcpq-jailed-father-of-josh-powell-placed-on-suicide-watch-20120205,0,5539238.story)

(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/359562/thumbs/s-STEVEN-POWELL-large.jpg)

IMO someone needs to put a vise on his nuts and tighten it until he talks.  This bastard knows what happened to Susan. 

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: pharlap on February 06, 2012, 12:08:00 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/kstu-powell-explosion-rescue-operation-at-steven-powell-home-in-puyallup-20120205,0,2033970.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/kstu-powell-explosion-rescue-operation-at-steven-powell-home-in-puyallup-20120205,0,2033970.story)

Video at link.
Heard this when I was watching the Super Bowl.
Why in the hell did the courts let him see the boys?  Idiots!!! ::MonkeyMad::

I just hope Dale Jr doesn't do this to the boys. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on February 06, 2012, 12:41:20 AM
 ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::   Poor little boys. 

 
Josh was just pure evil. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: labubske on February 06, 2012, 12:44:20 AM
I am absolutely in shock by this.  Words escape me.  I cannot believe I haven't checked this thread until now.  I am angry at so many people involved in this...they had loving caring grandparents that did their best to keep them safe...but those that try to be fair just couldn't keep the kids safe...isn't it about the kids?  The laws need to change with the changing people.  And his attorney HAD to know that he was unstable...HAD to...shouldn't he have protected those kids since he had that knowledge...no its all about the money.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on February 06, 2012, 12:46:50 AM


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204369404577205800735177114.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Blast Kills Family of Missing Woman
February 5, 2012

(http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-RR369_0205wa_G_20120205233946.jpg)
The smoldering remains of a house, left, where an explosion killed Josh Powell and his two sons is shown from the air in Graham, Wash.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: flamom on February 06, 2012, 12:48:10 AM
Tragic.....shocking and sad. Evil comes in many forms....
My heart is with the family.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 06, 2012, 12:48:39 AM
 ::MonkeyTears::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on February 06, 2012, 12:49:06 AM
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Community-mourns-horrific-death-of-Powell-boys-3058398.php
Community mourns horrific death of Powell boys
By CASEY MCNERTHNEY, SEATTLEPI.COM STAFF
February 5, 2012

Photo slide show at link


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on February 06, 2012, 01:11:06 AM


http://abcnews.go.com/US/josh-powell-missing-woman-susan-powells-husband-kills/story?id=15518478
Missing Woman Susan Powell's Husband Kills Kids, Himself, in House Explosion
By OLIVIA KATVRANDJIAN, DEAN SCHABNER and COLLEEN CURRY
February 5, 2012

(http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ap_abc_powell_explosion_dm_120205_wg.jpg)
A Pierce County Sheriff's deputy and Graham Firefighters work around the smoldering remains of a house near Fredrickson, Wash., Feb. 5, 2012, where, the bodies of Josh Powell and his two sons are believed to have been found. (AP Photo/ABC)

Video at Link



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on February 06, 2012, 01:16:56 AM
(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/3f/dd/susan%20and%20boys%20hardman%20photography.jpg)::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: CarolF on February 06, 2012, 01:20:22 AM
King 5 TV reporting that parents and children and school staff going to the grade school and bringing candles, balloons, stuffed animals and flowers. My heart just cries for the Cox family.
I am still in shock by that man's evilness. I hope he is burning in hell right now.

The question that I have for the state of Wa is this. Why do you allow supervised visits in the home of the parent that the children were taken away from? Would not a public or neutral place be more suitable? Maybe they will rethink how they do these visits from now on.
I feel sorry for the woman that took the boys there don't get me wrong. But there is something very wrong in the way this was handled.

We will probably never find out where Susan is now which is very sad in itself. I just pray for comfort from heaven for the Cox family.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: flamom on February 06, 2012, 01:24:50 AM
This seems so surreal.... I am still in shock and have not even really fully digested this yet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on February 06, 2012, 01:27:01 AM
*BLOCKED*/media/acrobat/2012-02/147059420-05161021.pdf

 ::MonkeyTears::
What a freaking narcissist....I just can't understand why the supervised visitation was not held in a neutral place IF there had to be any, and I think I must be the luckiest parent in the US after cutting off all contact with my son's dad after the he told me what happened, I read case after case of kids sent back to unfit parents, losing kids (literally), kids missing or dying, and my child escaped from the first day due to my child's psychologist going to court and obtaining an injunction and that was 18 months before divorce/custody hearing....then he was cut off completely and forever. I always thought my case wasn't that abnormal, but it must have been and my heart breaks tonight for the Cox family and so many others who have been down that road of he77. After reading this last pleading, I did go puke.....sick freak from a sick freak, and I swear I hope Steven Powell get's waterboarded for hours and then tossed in a cell with multiple men who loathe baby killers and child molesters.



ETA....I generally say "May God have mercy on your soul", but why lie....not feeling merciful tonight, just angry as hell. He shouldn't have seen those boys period IMO, but if he had to it should have been in the office of a well armed GAL.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: ISpy on February 06, 2012, 01:46:52 AM
Horrified and stunned here...and very angry! Josh Powell was a coward in life and in death too.  The reality is, that he premeditated the CPS worker using her cell phone to call for help. In all actuality, that's what sparked the explosion. That's why natural gas suppliers repeatedly warn their customers not to use any phone if they smell gas-to leave the premises and call from somewhere else. IMO, Josh had already spread the accelerant and was merely waiting for her call to explode the house (as he knew it would). Not casting blame on the poor CPS worker whatsoever...I'm pretty sure I'd have done the exact same thing even though I've caught many gas leaks both residential and commercial. Josh was banking on her calling on her cell phone.  She was in a no-win situation.  The fact of the matter is, that Josh was so spiritually and morally bankrupt, he literally exuded evil from the get-go. He knew he could not pass the pyscho-sexual test and time was running out, period.

Every state needs to draft and pass legislation that supervised visitation occur at a Police station. If the situation is serious enough to warrant outside supervision, it's serious enough to guarantee everyone's safety.  A neutral setting is not enough to stop someone bent on killing their children to "win".  There are people out there who would think nothing of walking into a neutral setting and blowing away the CPS worker, their child(ren), and whoever else just happens to be there that day. The only way to guarantee any modicum of safety, is to force the visiting parent to be frisked, etc. and supervised. Every state desperately needs a Charlie & Braden's Law. A supervised home visit gives a home team advantage to the Josh Powell's...completely unacceptable.  I, along with thousands of other people tonight, want to know how Josh Powell passed psychological testing, period. How could psychologists examine him, determine that he "loved " his boys, and he was stable...when the average blogger could see the guy was evil personified? Seriously. Why could we correctly read the flat expressions, the deadpan eyes, the emotional detachment from and overwhelming disparagement of Susan, the narcissism, the rabid antagonism/vitriol toward the Coxes, the dysfunctional lack of outrage at his father's porn stash (including pics of Susan), etc.? Why didn't the professionals read Josh as well as the average Joe/Jane? This case was an epic fail for Susan, Charlie, Braden, the Coxes, and all of Susan's friends.  The man was:
  • POI #1 in the murder of his wife, with a hokey camping-out-in-a-blizzard-with-my-two-small-boys-do-it-all-the-time excuse for an alibi
  • obsessive in his need to repeatedly and publicly trash the victim
  • rabidly verbally attacking the temporary custodians of his sons
  • uncooperative in every way, from the beginning
  • content to expose his children to his porn-fueled father and exhibitionist brother on a daily basis
   
And yet, he was deemed a loving and stable dad by someone in authority. Scary. Now two innocent children, as well as their mother are dead. Epic fail.

As for Josh...as someone else here already said,he was hell-bent on "winning" and revenge. He was indeed hell bent and within seconds was literally there. Josh lost. I believe the boys were in heaven within seconds.  It seems ironic that for someone who was so concerned about protecting his image, with this one act following having to undergo the psycho-sexual testing, Josh Powell unequivocably "confessed" to: killing Susan, being sexually deviant with regard to child pornography, being a psychopath, and a child murderer.

Praying for the CPS Worker, the responders, the coroner, the Coxes, Susan's friends, and anyone who ever helped care for Charlie and Braden tonight.  God already had mercy on Josh's soul...He gave him all this time to come clean...Josh refused the generous offer. All my opinion.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: texasmom on February 06, 2012, 01:54:11 AM
Very well stated ISpy.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Green Eyes on February 06, 2012, 02:13:27 AM
Very well said ISpy.  I agree they need to hold this visitations at a secure place. I know that some courts have what they call safe rooms for the children when they are having hearings in the family courts. They are very secure and built for the children's safety and comfort. Why not include a safe room for visitations with these sick parents.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on February 06, 2012, 02:27:34 AM
Very well stated ISpy.   ::MonkeyCool::

What I found interesting - is that it was not a CPS officer at all, but a CPS by proxy. The State subs out the job to a private agency.

I didn't even know that they did that. Then, the kids did, what most kids do... run out ahead of you, excited to see their dad...

because they are unaware that their dad is a one-eyed cyclops devil-horned murdering freak... and are under the impression that

he loves them. So sad. One person and one person alone is to blame, though. Rot in hell Josh Powell. Rot in hell, you sad excuse

for a human being. Those who betray the trust of a child - they just don't come any lower than that. Yuk! I hope the kids did not

suffer... and I hope he suffered greatly.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: ISpy on February 06, 2012, 02:29:26 AM
I feel the need to say this, so I'm going to.
  • Teach/encourage your daughters to court, rather than to date.  It provides an extra set of eyes and ears to see things your infatuated daughter may not and protect her from making a tragic mistake. It also gives everyone involved the chance to know the families over an extended time period. That's time to look for dysfunctional behavior (such as how women are treated/spoken to, how the guy behaves under pressure/when opposed, the family pecking order, family behavior patterns, how family members relate to one another and outsiders, anything that sets off your personal radar detector, etc.).  Teach your daughters to look for discrepancies in behavior/attitudes.  Teach them to watch, look, and listen carefully.  "Even a child is known by his actions." and "Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks."
  • Never encourage your daughter, friend, or family member to go back with a man who has: physically abused her (including pushing); withheld money from her/blocked access to family funds; repeatedly verbally trashed her; and threatened to harm himself/her/any relative to "make the marriage work". There's no such thing as giving him another chance. The problem is not his temper, it's that he doesn't respect or value you as a human being and certainly doesn't cherish you as a gift from God.

*Stepping down from soapbox, tucking it securely under the arm, walking away...


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: grace-land on February 06, 2012, 02:30:36 AM
http://www.chron.com/news/article/Could-Wash-have-done-more-to-protect-Powell-boys-3055081.php

Could Wash. have done more to protect Powell boys?
Updated 10:49 p.m., Sunday, February 5, 2012

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The answers rest largely in that no concrete evidence has emerged publicly linking him with Susan Powell's disappearance, and Josh Powell was never arrested or charged in the case. Josh Powell had custody of the boys for nearly two years after his wife vanished. And it was only because his father — with whom Josh Powell and the boys lived — was arrested in a voyeurism and child pornography case last fall that the children were taken out of the home and placed with Susan's parents.
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If the older boy started to talk about the night his mother disappeared, did the grandparents' lawyer inform the court?  This matter was beyond mere visitation between a father and sons.  One of the boys might be considered a potential witness to his mother's disappearance and needed special protection? jmo


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: ISpy on February 06, 2012, 02:52:52 AM
texasmom-Thanks, just sharing your indignation!

Green Eyes- Thanks for the safe room info. I totally agree that police stations should have these. It's naive to think that everyone is above board, playing fair, and beyond reproach in any custody case. It's ridiculously so, in cases needing supervised visits. Obviously, there's some type of safety issue there to begin with.  As many times as children and spouses are killed in situations like this, I'm a little surprised that supervised home visits still happen.

Carpe Noctem- Your post reminded me of what bothered me. I am troubled that the boys were out of the car and running before the CPS contracted worker. I wonder if the CPS contracted worker is the same one each time. Not saying this is the case necessarily, but I could see where a person might unconsciously let their guard down, if the parent's been on their best behavior on all the prior supervised visits and the children seem excited and at ease. I'm not faulting the worker here, by any means. You're absolutely right-fault begins and ends with Josh Powell. Working this forward, how can we prevent a repeat with the next child(ren)? Trying to close the gap here.   

Fellow Monkeys- What say we only post pics of Susan and her boys, in honor of Susan and the boys?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: ISpy on February 06, 2012, 02:54:07 AM
(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/3f/dd/susan%20and%20boys%20hardman%20photography.jpg)::MonkeyAngel::
MuffyBee- Thank you for posting this wonderful pic of Susan and her boys! We all know who really loved Charlie and Braden.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on February 06, 2012, 02:58:58 AM
Very well stated ISpy.   ::MonkeyCool::

What I found interesting - is that it was not a CPS officer at all, but a CPS by proxy. The State subs out the job to a private agency.

I didn't even know that they did that. Then, the kids did, what most kids do... run out ahead of you, excited to see their dad...

because they are unaware that their dad is a one-eyed cyclops devil-horned murdering freak... and are under the impression that

he loves them. So sad. One person and one person alone is to blame, though. Rot in hell Josh Powell. Rot in hell, you sad excuse

for a human being. Those who betray the trust of a child - they just don't come any lower than that. Yuk! I hope the kids did not

suffer... and I hope he suffered greatly.

Ditto, Carpe.

I pray that those children simply blinked and were with their Mom and God's angels. This whole thing makes my stomach turn. What a miserable, lowlife, coward he was.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on February 06, 2012, 03:06:45 AM
One can only advice a son or daughter into what to do with their love-life, but it is up to them to choose to heed the advice, or ignore it completely. We were young adults once, and most of us really didn't care what our parents thought of our choice of partners.

We didn't know it then, but we thought we knew everything... but we really didn't.

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What Josh did was confirm that he murdered Susan.

I mean, who kills his babies when things don't go according to his plan? It shows what a control freak he really was, and the hell he must've put Susan through, before he finally killed her.

Hopefully in his personal belongings there are clues to where Susan's body may be.

The one thing not bothering me about this turn of events, is that I know Steven is now suffering almost as much as Susan's parents are at this time.

To the brother who told lies and asked others to lie to get the kids back to the hellish home Josh had setup for them, these kids' blood is in your hands!!!

To Josh's attorney, shame on you if you suspected he was a danger to his children and you did nothing.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: IBE on February 06, 2012, 03:29:27 AM
We cry.   (sorry, can't find the crying monkey)


For Susan and the children: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on February 06, 2012, 03:30:16 AM
I cannot imagine being the person that delivered those children to the house. My heart goes out to that person, and of course to Susan's parents.

I'm in a situation where I supervise parental visits of a 2 year old that I have custody of. I've had the child for around 6 months, and when the parents came out of jail, the judge allowed visits for them, and simply said, "You supervise the visits." He gave me no guidelines or instructions, just mandated 1 hour every other week and instructed us all to exchange phone numbers to work out where and when. I've always made it a public place, (like a playground) but I give them space, once the toddler is willing to leave my lap and seems comfortable with them.

My God.......... I cannot imagine. My heart breaks for those children and for those who loved them. I know that God has them in His capable hands and may He somehow comfort those they leave behind.

Our society and legal system do not do enough to protect the children. Parental rights are given too much weight. When children are known to be safe and happy, they shouldn't be moved to areas of risk. I'm biased, I know, but that's how I feel.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on February 06, 2012, 03:31:53 AM
We cry.   (sorry, can't find the crying monkey)


For Susan and the children: ::MonkeyAngel::

 From both of us, IBE:  ::MonkeyTears::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: IBE on February 06, 2012, 03:47:58 AM
yes, thank bye


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Green Eyes on February 06, 2012, 04:03:09 AM
I cannot imagine being the person that delivered those children to the house. My heart goes out to that person, and of course to Susan's parents.

I'm in a situation where I supervise parental visits of a 2 year old that I have custody of. I've had the child for around 6 months, and when the parents came out of jail, the judge allowed visits for them, and simply said, "You supervise the visits." He gave me no guidelines or instructions, just mandated 1 hour every other week and instructed us all to exchange phone numbers to work out where and when. I've always made it a public place, (like a playground) but I give them space, once the toddler is willing to leave my lap and seems comfortable with them.

My God.......... I cannot imagine. My heart breaks for those children and for those who loved them. I know that God has them in His capable hands and may He somehow comfort those they leave behind.

Our society and legal system do not do enough to protect the children. Parental rights are given too much weight. When children are known to be safe and happy, they shouldn't be moved to areas of risk. I'm biased, I know, but that's how I feel.

CBB you are not biased. It's the way it should be. The legal system tells us all the time "we are looking out for what best for the child." Yet over and over we have seen child murdered bye their parents when it is clear that the children are not safe with their parents. We gave heard over and over that the Social Service workers are over worked and they just can't do their jobs. I call BS not saying the CS workers aren't over worked. But the way the laws are now they can't do much of anything. They get burned out and either they have to leave or it just becomes a paycheck and not a calling to help the children. If they were truly looking out for the children we wouldn't have so many children missing killed or so abused. Our system has to change and truly act on whats best for the children.

I am sorry to hear that the court didn't give you any advice on how to handle your visitation's with your little guy. I think keeping it in an public place is the best thing for you.

My heart cries along with everyone else over the lose of these two little boys. I have to believe they are with their mommy and have no more fear.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on February 06, 2012, 04:13:05 AM
I agree, GE. The courts are often in conflict trying to balance what's obviously best for the children and parental rights. To me, that's the problem in a nutshell. I say that everyone in authority should squarely place the children's interest as THE priority and anyone else's interest should fit in under that.

Those kids should never have been exposed to their Dad under the circumstances, IMO. When children are involved, the court needs to use some common sense.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: Green Eyes on February 06, 2012, 04:18:30 AM
I agree, GE. The courts are often in conflict trying to balance what's obviously best for the children and parental rights. To me, that's the problem in a nutshell. I say that everyone in authority should squarely place the children's interest as THE priority and anyone else's interest should fit in under that.

Those kids should never have been exposed to their Dad under the circumstances, IMO. When children are involved, the court needs to use some common sense.

I agree CBB The children need to come first, then the parents.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on February 06, 2012, 06:16:51 AM
Just listening to the link you provided Trim and they are stating an accelerant was used, another OMG....it's beyond evil what he did and he not only was a control freak who wanted to punish everyone , which could have included the neighbors with that explosion but also was sure to pour salt in the wound of everyone in his mind that wronged him......is it hot enough for you Joshie....don't worry, my bet is your daddy and brother will join you one day. ::MonkeyMad::
What a monster.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on February 06, 2012, 06:17:48 AM
I agree, GE. The courts are often in conflict trying to balance what's obviously best for the children and parental rights. To me, that's the problem in a nutshell. I say that everyone in authority should squarely place the children's interest as THE priority and anyone else's interest should fit in under that.

Those kids should never have been exposed to their Dad under the circumstances, IMO. When children are involved, the court needs to use some common sense.

I agree CBB The children need to come first, then the parents.
::rhino::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on February 06, 2012, 06:21:30 AM
http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Could-Wash-have-done-more-to-protect-Powell-boys-3055081.php
Could Wash. have done more to protect Powell boys?
GENE JOHNSON, Associated Press
Updated 05:23 a.m., Monday, February 6, 2012

SEATTLE (AP) — State authorities can expect tough questions about whether more might have been done to protect a missing Utah woman's two children, who died along with their father after authorities say he ignited his home in an inferno Sunday.

Josh Powell was a person of interest in his wife's disappearance. Why was he allowed to meet with his sons at all? Why weren't more precautions taken, such as requiring that supervised visits be at a neutral site rather than at his home?
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 ::snipping2::
The court ordered a psychological evaluation of Josh Powell last October. After it was completed, the psychologist received information from police in West Valley City, Utah, about undisclosed materials found on his computer during a search in 2009. That material prompted the psychologist to recommend a psycho-sexual evaluation before Powell be given custody or expanded visitation rights.

For his part, Josh Powell had argued in court papers that it was unfair for his children to be removed from his care based on something his father had done. In supervised visits, twice a week for three hours apiece, he demonstrated his love of the boys and his competence as a caregiver, he insisted. He believed that a Child Protective Services investigation completed Nov. 30 clearing him of negligent treatment or maltreatment of his boys should have paved the way for their return home.

"No child wants to be taken from their parents and it is not reasonable to continue this process," he wrote in a court declaration last Wednesday. "At this point, it is only by bending and breaking the rules that anyone even tries to keep it going."

The judge disagreed, ordering the psycho-sexual evaluation.

Powell's attorney, Jeffrey Bassett, said Powell was extremely upset about the decision.

"The last conversation I had with him, we were looking to move forward, to comply with the evaluation and go from there," Bassett said. "This is a total shock."

Read more: http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Could-Wash-have-done-more-to-protect-Powell-boys-3055081.php#ixzz1lbEBdjJW




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on February 06, 2012, 06:30:34 AM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700222406/Timeline-of-events-surrounding-Josh-Powell-Susan-Cox-Powell.html?s_cid=s10
Detailed timeline of events surrounding Josh Powell, Susan Cox Powell
Deseret News
Published: Sunday, Feb. 5 2012 6:39 p.m. MST


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on February 06, 2012, 06:58:15 AM
(http://www.deseretnews.com/photos/midres/web-754128.jpg)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28 missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah #2 8/17/10 -
Post by: tupelohoney on February 06, 2012, 07:30:42 AM
I just watched the Today Show.....they said the boys had become more verbal about the night Susan disappeared.  The older son stated that when they went camping, Susan