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Current Events and Musings => Political Forum => Topic started by: WhiskeyGirl on February 28, 2010, 10:23:04 AM



Title: Germany, A Two Tier Healthcare System?
Post by: WhiskeyGirl on February 28, 2010, 10:23:04 AM
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Really a two class medicine?

The fact that there is already a two class medicine in Germany is incontestable according to the opinion of many experts. On the one hand health and economists proved several times that humans from less educated families and with smaller income have a worse entrance to the institutions of the health service. The socialeconomic and the health chance inequality cause and strengthen so mutually. To second it gives - whether openly admitted or in covered way - one " Rationierung": Not each humans get everything that is medically possible. Thirdly private patients have it often more easily to receive the best health care.[/b] However is valid here: " Much costs viel." And during the offers of the private health insurance companies for young, healthy people appear often attractive, can avenge itself the entering the more advanced age. Despite everything that is criticized again and again, the German health service belongs in the international comparison to the best - in addition, to the most expensive. Problematic are wasting, lobbyism as well as on the one hand under and on the other hand over supply of patients. The legal health insurance (GKV) in Germany has anyhow large advantages, and one must know those likewise like the pitfalls. What pays the cash, which not? Where can I turn, if investigations, treatments and medicines are rejected? If auxiliary offers which can be paid privately (individual health achievements are, " IGeL") meaningfully or it acts around rip-off? Which additional insurances should legally insured to possibly lock, which rather not?

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Wirklich eine Zwei-Klassen-Medizin? Dass es in Deutschland bereits eine Zwei-Klassen-Medizin gibt, ist nach der Meinung vieler Experten unbestreitbar. Zum einen haben Gesundheits- und Wirtschaftswissenschaftler mehrfach nachgewiesen, dass Menschen aus weniger gebildeten Familien und mit geringerem Einkommen einen schlechteren Zugang zu den Institutionen des Gesundheitswesens haben. Die sozial-ökonomische und die gesundheitliche Chancenungleichheit bedingen und verstärken sich so gegenseitig. Zum zweiten gibt es - ob offen zugegeben oder in verdeckter Weise - eine "Rationierung": Nicht jeder Mensch bekommt alles, was medizinisch möglich ist. Drittens haben es Privatpatienten oft leichter, die beste Gesundheitsversorgung zu erhalten. Allerdings gilt hier: "Viel kostet viel." Und während die Angebote der privaten Krankenkassen für junge, gesunde Menschen oft attraktiv erscheinen, kann sich der Eintritt im fortgeschritteneren Alter rächen. Trotz allem, was immer wieder kritisiert wird, gehört das deutsche Gesundheitswesen im internationalen Vergleich zu den besten - aber auch zu den teuersten. Problematisch sind Verschwendung, Lobbyismus sowie einerseits Unter- und andererseits Überversorgung von Patienten. Die gesetzliche Krankenversicherung (GKV) in Deutschland hat jedenfalls große Vorteile, und die muss man ebenso kennen wie die Fallstricke. Was bezahlt die Kasse, was nicht? Wohin kann ich mich wenden, wenn Untersuchungen, Behandlungen und Medikamente abgelehnt werden? Sind privat zu bezahlende Zusatzangebote (Individuelle Gesundheitsleistungen, "IGeL") sinnvoll oder handelt es sich um Abzocke? Welche Zusatzversicherungen sollten gesetzlich Versicherte eventuell abschließen, welche eher nicht?

babelfish translation - from this site - http://www.stern.de/wirtschaft/versicherung/patienten-kassenaerztliche-vereinigungen-aerzte-was-sie-als-patient-wissen-muessen-1545823.html (http://www.stern.de/wirtschaft/versicherung/patienten-kassenaerztliche-vereinigungen-aerzte-was-sie-als-patient-wissen-muessen-1545823.html)

Despite it's favorable comparison in the Obama media, Germany doesn't provide everyone with equal healthcare?

Some, the very wealthy, like Obama's example of Congress, can get more than others?

Hmmm...

Why exactly is Obama taking over control of 26% of the economy?  Writing a blank check to drug companies and hospital systems?


Title: Re: Germany, A Two Tier Healthcare System?
Post by: Edward on February 28, 2010, 01:08:22 PM
Yes that is the plan..

Oil companies who invested in and started Drug companies and Insurance companies  as well as many other companies like chemical and plastics.

They have put presidents in office for many years and want US a part of the W.H.O. and it is his little job to make sure that this happens as the richest people in the world want to control everything from a central government.
That would be the new world order.


Title: Re: Germany, A Two Tier Healthcare System?
Post by: WhiskeyGirl on February 28, 2010, 02:19:45 PM
Yes that is the plan..

Oil companies who invested in and started Drug companies and Insurance companies  as well as many other companies like chemical and plastics.

They have put presidents in office for many years and want US a part of the W.H.O. and it is his little job to make sure that this happens as the richest people in the world want to control everything from a central government.
That would be the new world order.

Currently, folks who work hard can have good healthcare.  It seems like the goal is to provide the illusion of equitable healthcare for all.

The political elite and their special interests won't have to play by the sames rules as the masses.

In the past, good healthcare was available to everyone.  Tomorrow, good healthcare will only be available for the elite.

my opinions.