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Title: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 - 4/9/10
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 19, 2010, 08:28:20 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/caylee-sky.gif)

WE DEMAND JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 04, 2010, 07:54:33 PM
Thanks Nut  ::MonkeyDance::  Where did everyone go?   :2thinky:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 04, 2010, 07:57:49 PM
 ::dogwag::
I am collecting and gathering and hopefully will be able to make a post soon, in a bit ~ Thank you for the Clean Cage mods  ::MonkeyGavel::

Justice for Caylee   :albino: :sunny:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 04, 2010, 08:01:12 PM
::dogwag::
I am collecting and gathering and hopefully will be able to make a post soon, in a bit ~ Thank you for the Clean Cage mods  ::MonkeyGavel::

Justice for Caylee   :albino: :sunny:

Okey dokey Deenie.  I look forward to the post you are working on.  Justice for Caylee  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 04, 2010, 08:11:46 PM
Hi Monks. I hope everyone one has had a blessed Easter. Ours was spent with family and friends.....lots of good company and goods food. It was so much fun watching the little ones scurrying around to find the brightly dyed eggs....and we were blessed with glorious weather.

Caylee would have loved it!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 04, 2010, 08:50:40 PM
Justice for Caylee!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: loca on April 04, 2010, 09:08:29 PM
Hi Monks. I hope everyone one has had a blessed Easter. Ours was spent with family and friends.....lots of good company and goods food. It was so much fun watching the little ones scurrying around to find the brightly dyed eggs....and we were blessed with glorious weather.

Caylee would have loved it!!

Hi Sunny
it's pouring here in calif! Glad you had a blessed christmas. Jesus is the reason for this day.
I am thinking of little caylee in heaven  playing with the angels ! chasing butterflies.
she is now a little  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: loca on April 04, 2010, 09:08:59 PM
Hi Monks. I hope everyone one has had a blessed Easter. Ours was spent with family and friends.....lots of good company and goods food. It was so much fun watching the little ones scurrying around to find the brightly dyed eggs....and we were blessed with glorious weather.

Caylee would have loved it!!

Hi Sunny
it's pouring here in calif! Glad you had a blessed christmas. Jesus is the reason for this day.
I am thinking of little caylee in heaven  playing with the angels ! chasing butterflies.
she is now a little  ::MonkeyAngel::
::MonkeyHaHa::
omg I mean easter lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: BooMonkey on April 04, 2010, 09:23:13 PM
Hi Monks. I hope everyone one has had a blessed Easter. Ours was spent with family and friends.....lots of good company and goods food. It was so much fun watching the little ones scurrying around to find the brightly dyed eggs....and we were blessed with glorious weather.

Caylee would have loved it!!

Hi Sunny
it's pouring here in calif! Glad you had a blessed christmas. Jesus is the reason for this day.
I am thinking of little caylee in heaven  playing with the angels ! chasing butterflies.
she is now a little  ::MonkeyAngel::
::MonkeyHaHa::
omg I mean easter lol

My how the months have flown!!!    ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 04, 2010, 10:03:39 PM
Rozzie Franko is saying Baez is sneaking in twizzler licorice for miss-poopie-pants.... ::rhino::

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 04, 2010, 10:58:39 PM
I hate to be the one to change the mood of the posts above. I have been working on some things or I should say people.. People of the newly released doc dumps. 

I went back and re-read the Linda Tinelli transcripts/interview.
I had to read certain parts 2 or 3 times over because some of it did not make sense - most of it still does not. I don't know if it was LT's nerves or if she had huge lapses of memory.
I could not figure out how she became left in charge of the tables/volunteers/etc at the Publix. That Holly G * I am guessing she is the Holly mentioned from the very beginning of the interview with LE.
Linda makes it sound as if she happen to wander in to the Publix Tent and handed over her phone number " If you need help" and she was instantly passed the baton from Holly. (( Yet she LT is from KFN)) Holly being put in charge by GA/CA - and the way it is said in the interview that Holly called in Linda and basically hoofed it. Then LT was held responsible for the tent/taking names/donations/documenting etc. That the Ant's basically washed their hands of everything and GA only came around to collect money and act like he was mailing out t-shirts etc.
LT states they moved the Tent (Six) Times. I don't understand though how she can be so vague in some of her answers. Understandably moving 6 times would add to some confusion. But her answers to some of the questions asked are really empty. She is to be representing a missing child organization.  :shaking2: cough. Her lack there of skills pretty much sums up the experience she has had in this type of setting. She even admits she has no experience. Good Old GA/CA nothing but the best for Caylee.  She LT was in charge of documenting everyone's names etc who offered to help * directed by GA. She did to an extent. Who in a missing child case would use rubber bands and toothpicks " Scraps" of paper as she says what people wrote on - to volunteer. She then said she would take the scraps and type up the names at home. Then she gave all the documentation to GA.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

It all falls back to Testimonies of the searchers in question - goes without saying that GA had his fingers in everything but " Searching for Caylee" When she begins talking about the " table cloths" that they kept ripping and blowing away. She says that scotch tape did not work.  That later GA brought the tape from home. Yet she cannot remember the tape. But it stuck and it worked. I would think if I was stuck in the middle of parking lot - I would remember that tape that GA brought. Other than it was a few inches wide. She can't recall if it needed to be cut, it was easy to tear. If it needed scissors or ?? anything - Yet she says she put it on the tables to hold down the table cloths. And the table cloths kept ripping.  My brain says the tape was still stuck to the table and cloths being cheap weightless - continue to rip and fly.
** I guess it just boggles me to no end because I myself have been a volunteer for many out door fund raising events and the things that go wrong " You remember the Most" " because it was usually something that is unexpected You had to think quick and correct asap"  I cannot believe she can not remember the tape that GA brought from home. Arrr - That and it was used on the Sign as well. I am trying to stay in sequence of the interview. She LT then mentions Karen Groover who is also a board member of KFN - yet she speaks of her does not know her very well.  Moving on to the woman Roxie. Roxie Marshall aka Sally. Roxie does exist. She does live in Seminole County. She is 54 years old. I found her address and her relatives names. I am not though going to post it here. I feel that if she wants to "come back into light" she will on her own.  I wish she would come forward and speak but I have to believe that anything that was to be said has been said to LE. The comment of " Section C" is of where she lives. Since I found her address this makes sense. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_State_Road_429
I am passing up the Dominic Casey portion - its too much for me to even attempt to figure out. Moving up to Dec 12th - The Milsted's flipping out and wanting everything removed from the parking lot " Tent KFN Setup".  Why ? Why was it so urgent on the 12th at 10 am. That it would be all taken down and put away "urgently". That the Milsted's believed " The civilians" of Orlando would tear it apart. (( Sure they would)) Or was it because it was released to the public on the news on Dec 11th that LE was going to issue a search warrant for the Anthony's house. Dec 11th, evening ( am Caylee was found) by Kronk. Milsted's basically destroyed evidence as far as I am concerned. What ever was there " What GA Did or had his hands in" or what was slinked together by GA/CA and the Milsteds - needed to be gone. $$$$$
http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/officials-seek-search-warrant-for-home-of-caylees-grandparents/
my post is getting Huge. I have more to add. Desi would be proud of Me (( I hope))




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: loca on April 04, 2010, 11:11:08 PM
Rozzie Franko is saying Baez is sneaking in twizzler licorice for miss-poopie-pants.... ::rhino::

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this

why am I not hearing about the licorice where in the show is this?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Babybear on April 04, 2010, 11:24:45 PM
I hate to be the one to change the mood of the posts above. I have been working on some things or I should say people.. People of the newly released doc dumps. 

I went back and re-read the Linda Tinelli transcripts/interview.
I had to read certain parts 2 or 3 times over because some of it did not make sense - most of it still does not. I don't know if it was LT's nerves or if she had huge lapses of memory.
I could not figure out how she became left in charge of the tables/volunteers/etc at the Publix. That Holly G * I am guessing she is the Holly mentioned from the very beginning of the interview with LE.
Linda makes it sound as if she happen to wander in to the Publix Tent and handed over her phone number " If you need help" and she was instantly passed the baton from Holly. (( Yet she LT is from KFN)) Holly being put in charge by GA/CA - and the way it is said in the interview that Holly called in Linda and basically hoofed it. Then LT was held responsible for the tent/taking names/donations/documenting etc. That the Ant's basically washed their hands of everything and GA only came around to collect money and act like he was mailing out t-shirts etc.
LT states they moved the Tent (Six) Times. I don't understand though how she can be so vague in some of her answers. Understandably moving 6 times would add to some confusion. But her answers to some of the questions asked are really empty. She is to be representing a missing child organization.  :shaking2: cough. Her lack there of skills pretty much sums up the experience she has had in this type of setting. She even admits she has no experience. Good Old GA/CA nothing but the best for Caylee.  She LT was in charge of documenting everyone's names etc who offered to help * directed by GA. She did to an extent. Who in a missing child case would use rubber bands and toothpicks " Scraps" of paper as she says what people wrote on - to volunteer. She then said she would take the scraps and type up the names at home. Then she gave all the documentation to GA.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

It all falls back to Testimonies of the searchers in question - goes without saying that GA had his fingers in everything but " Searching for Caylee" When she begins talking about the " table cloths" that they kept ripping and blowing away. She says that scotch tape did not work.  That later GA brought the tape from home. Yet she cannot remember the tape. But it stuck and it worked. I would think if I was stuck in the middle of parking lot - I would remember that tape that GA brought. Other than it was a few inches wide. She can't recall if it needed to be cut, it was easy to tear. If it needed scissors or ?? anything - Yet she says she put it on the tables to hold down the table cloths. And the table cloths kept ripping.  My brain says the tape was still stuck to the table and cloths being cheap weightless - continue to rip and fly.
** I guess it just boggles me to no end because I myself have been a volunteer for many out door fund raising events and the things that go wrong " You remember the Most" " because it was usually something that is unexpected You had to think quick and correct asap"  I cannot believe she can not remember the tape that GA brought from home. Arrr - That and it was used on the Sign as well. I am trying to stay in sequence of the interview. She LT then mentions Karen Groover who is also a board member of KFN - yet she speaks of her does not know her very well.  Moving on to the woman Roxie. Roxie Marshall aka Sally. Roxie does exist. She does live in Seminole County. She is 54 years old. I found her address and her relatives names. I am not though going to post it here. I feel that if she wants to "come back into light" she will on her own.  I wish she would come forward and speak but I have to believe that anything that was to be said has been said to LE. The comment of " Section C" is of where she lives. Since I found her address this makes sense. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_State_Road_429
I am passing up the Dominic Casey portion - its too much for me to even attempt to figure out. Moving up to Dec 12th - The Milsted's flipping out and wanting everything removed from the parking lot " Tent KFN Setup".  Why ? Why was it so urgent on the 12th at 10 am. That it would be all taken down and put away "urgently". That the Milsted's believed " The civilians" of Orlando would tear it apart. (( Sure they would)) Or was it because it was released to the public on the news on Dec 11th that LE was going to issue a search warrant for the Anthony's house. Dec 11th, evening ( am Caylee was found) by Kronk. Milsted's basically destroyed evidence as far as I am concerned. What ever was there " What GA Did or had his hands in" or what was slinked together by GA/CA and the Milsteds - needed to be gone. $$$$$
http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/officials-seek-search-warrant-for-home-of-caylees-grandparents/
my post is getting Huge. I have more to add. Desi would be proud of Me (( I hope))




Hi Deenie and loca and all you other Monks who are here tonight.  Hope you had a great Easter.

Deenie, your post was huge and full of insightful info.  I love these posts which are chock full of stuff I hadn't heard before as yours was.  I haven't had time to listen to all of these depos or even read them so it's helpful to me when someone who has more energy than I reads them and/or listens and comments. It was interesting to me that GA showed up basically just to collect the cash.  Wonder if he paid taxes on it?  I think that would have been prior to the Ants setting up their scam-sham foundation so it would have been taxable.  But then I wonder if anybody ever paid taxes on the $200,000 from ABC or the $20,000 that the Ants say they got for pics. Then there's the $70,000 from Macaluso.  Wonder if he paid gift tax on it and wonder if Casey or Baez reported it?  I think there's fertile ground here for the IRS, but I wouldn't sic the IRS on anybody, even the Ants.

I agree with you that LT must remember the tape because of the circumstances of Georgie-Porgie bringing it from home.  She probably just doesn't want to say it was odd looking duct tape. 

Thanks for taking the time to post this info.  It's appreciated.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: loca on April 04, 2010, 11:34:43 PM
I hate to be the one to change the mood of the posts above. I have been working on some things or I should say people.. People of the newly released doc dumps. 

I went back and re-read the Linda Tinelli transcripts/interview.
I had to read certain parts 2 or 3 times over because some of it did not make sense - most of it still does not. I don't know if it was LT's nerves or if she had huge lapses of memory.
I could not figure out how she became left in charge of the tables/volunteers/etc at the Publix. That Holly G * I am guessing she is the Holly mentioned from the very beginning of the interview with LE.
Linda makes it sound as if she happen to wander in to the Publix Tent and handed over her phone number " If you need help" and she was instantly passed the baton from Holly. (( Yet she LT is from KFN)) Holly being put in charge by GA/CA - and the way it is said in the interview that Holly called in Linda and basically hoofed it. Then LT was held responsible for the tent/taking names/donations/documenting etc. That the Ant's basically washed their hands of everything and GA only came around to collect money and act like he was mailing out t-shirts etc.
LT states they moved the Tent (Six) Times. I don't understand though how she can be so vague in some of her answers. Understandably moving 6 times would add to some confusion. But her answers to some of the questions asked are really empty. She is to be representing a missing child organization.  :shaking2: cough. Her lack there of skills pretty much sums up the experience she has had in this type of setting. She even admits she has no experience. Good Old GA/CA nothing but the best for Caylee.  She LT was in charge of documenting everyone's names etc who offered to help * directed by GA. She did to an extent. Who in a missing child case would use rubber bands and toothpicks " Scraps" of paper as she says what people wrote on - to volunteer. She then said she would take the scraps and type up the names at home. Then she gave all the documentation to GA.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

It all falls back to Testimonies of the searchers in question - goes without saying that GA had his fingers in everything but " Searching for Caylee" When she begins talking about the " table cloths" that they kept ripping and blowing away. She says that scotch tape did not work.  That later GA brought the tape from home. Yet she cannot remember the tape. But it stuck and it worked. I would think if I was stuck in the middle of parking lot - I would remember that tape that GA brought. Other than it was a few inches wide. She can't recall if it needed to be cut, it was easy to tear. If it needed scissors or ?? anything - Yet she says she put it on the tables to hold down the table cloths. And the table cloths kept ripping.  My brain says the tape was still stuck to the table and cloths being cheap weightless - continue to rip and fly.
** I guess it just boggles me to no end because I myself have been a volunteer for many out door fund raising events and the things that go wrong " You remember the Most" " because it was usually something that is unexpected You had to think quick and correct asap"  I cannot believe she can not remember the tape that GA brought from home. Arrr - That and it was used on the Sign as well. I am trying to stay in sequence of the interview. She LT then mentions Karen Groover who is also a board member of KFN - yet she speaks of her does not know her very well.  Moving on to the woman Roxie. Roxie Marshall aka Sally. Roxie does exist. She does live in Seminole County. She is 54 years old. I found her address and her relatives names. I am not though going to post it here. I feel that if she wants to "come back into light" she will on her own.  I wish she would come forward and speak but I have to believe that anything that was to be said has been said to LE. The comment of " Section C" is of where she lives. Since I found her address this makes sense. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_State_Road_429
I am passing up the Dominic Casey portion - its too much for me to even attempt to figure out. Moving up to Dec 12th - The Milsted's flipping out and wanting everything removed from the parking lot " Tent KFN Setup".  Why ? Why was it so urgent on the 12th at 10 am. That it would be all taken down and put away "urgently". That the Milsted's believed " The civilians" of Orlando would tear it apart. (( Sure they would)) Or was it because it was released to the public on the news on Dec 11th that LE was going to issue a search warrant for the Anthony's house. Dec 11th, evening ( am Caylee was found) by Kronk. Milsted's basically destroyed evidence as far as I am concerned. What ever was there " What GA Did or had his hands in" or what was slinked together by GA/CA and the Milsteds - needed to be gone. $$$$$
http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/officials-seek-search-warrant-for-home-of-caylees-grandparents/
my post is getting Huge. I have more to add. Desi would be proud of Me (( I hope))




Hi Deenie and loca and all you other Monks who are here tonight.  Hope you had a great Easter.

Deenie, your post was huge and full of insightful info.  I love these posts which are chock full of stuff I hadn't heard before as yours was.  I haven't had time to listen to all of these depos or even read them so it's helpful to me when someone who has more energy than I reads them and/or listens and comments. It was interesting to me that GA showed up basically just to collect the cash.  Wonder if he paid taxes on it?  I think that would have been prior to the Ants setting up their scam-sham foundation so it would have been taxable.  But then I wonder if anybody ever paid taxes on the $200,000 from ABC or the $20,000 that the Ants say they got for pics. Then there's the $70,000 from Macaluso.  Wonder if he paid gift tax on it and wonder if Casey or Baez reported it?  I think there's fertile ground here for the IRS, but I wouldn't sic the IRS on anybody, even the Ants.

I agree with you that LT must remember the tape because of the circumstances of Georgie-Porgie bringing it from home.  She probably just doesn't want to say it was odd looking duct tape. 

Thanks for taking the time to post this info.  It's appreciated.

Hi Babybear and deenie
I had a wonderful day hope yours was as blessed.
I love all your posts here ! I finaly heard the whole blog radio and did hear about the licorice. Lets see what tomorrow brings. nejame will rim baez a new butt!! whole.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: loca on April 04, 2010, 11:36:45 PM
I hate to be the one to change the mood of the posts above. I have been working on some things or I should say people.. People of the newly released doc dumps. 

I went back and re-read the Linda Tinelli transcripts/interview.
I had to read certain parts 2 or 3 times over because some of it did not make sense - most of it still does not. I don't know if it was LT's nerves or if she had huge lapses of memory.
I could not figure out how she became left in charge of the tables/volunteers/etc at the Publix. That Holly G * I am guessing she is the Holly mentioned from the very beginning of the interview with LE.
Linda makes it sound as if she happen to wander in to the Publix Tent and handed over her phone number " If you need help" and she was instantly passed the baton from Holly. (( Yet she LT is from KFN)) Holly being put in charge by GA/CA - and the way it is said in the interview that Holly called in Linda and basically hoofed it. Then LT was held responsible for the tent/taking names/donations/documenting etc. That the Ant's basically washed their hands of everything and GA only came around to collect money and act like he was mailing out t-shirts etc.
LT states they moved the Tent (Six) Times. I don't understand though how she can be so vague in some of her answers. Understandably moving 6 times would add to some confusion. But her answers to some of the questions asked are really empty. She is to be representing a missing child organization.  :shaking2: cough. Her lack there of skills pretty much sums up the experience she has had in this type of setting. She even admits she has no experience. Good Old GA/CA nothing but the best for Caylee.  She LT was in charge of documenting everyone's names etc who offered to help * directed by GA. She did to an extent. Who in a missing child case would use rubber bands and toothpicks " Scraps" of paper as she says what people wrote on - to volunteer. She then said she would take the scraps and type up the names at home. Then she gave all the documentation to GA.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

It all falls back to Testimonies of the searchers in question - goes without saying that GA had his fingers in everything but " Searching for Caylee" When she begins talking about the " table cloths" that they kept ripping and blowing away. She says that scotch tape did not work.  That later GA brought the tape from home. Yet she cannot remember the tape. But it stuck and it worked. I would think if I was stuck in the middle of parking lot - I would remember that tape that GA brought. Other than it was a few inches wide. She can't recall if it needed to be cut, it was easy to tear. If it needed scissors or ?? anything - Yet she says she put it on the tables to hold down the table cloths. And the table cloths kept ripping.  My brain says the tape was still stuck to the table and cloths being cheap weightless - continue to rip and fly.
** I guess it just boggles me to no end because I myself have been a volunteer for many out door fund raising events and the things that go wrong " You remember the Most" " because it was usually something that is unexpected You had to think quick and correct asap"  I cannot believe she can not remember the tape that GA brought from home. Arrr - That and it was used on the Sign as well. I am trying to stay in sequence of the interview. She LT then mentions Karen Groover who is also a board member of KFN - yet she speaks of her does not know her very well.  Moving on to the woman Roxie. Roxie Marshall aka Sally. Roxie does exist. She does live in Seminole County. She is 54 years old. I found her address and her relatives names. I am not though going to post it here. I feel that if she wants to "come back into light" she will on her own.  I wish she would come forward and speak but I have to believe that anything that was to be said has been said to LE. The comment of " Section C" is of where she lives. Since I found her address this makes sense. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_State_Road_429
I am passing up the Dominic Casey portion - its too much for me to even attempt to figure out. Moving up to Dec 12th - The Milsted's flipping out and wanting everything removed from the parking lot " Tent KFN Setup".  Why ? Why was it so urgent on the 12th at 10 am. That it would be all taken down and put away "urgently". That the Milsted's believed " The civilians" of Orlando would tear it apart. (( Sure they would)) Or was it because it was released to the public on the news on Dec 11th that LE was going to issue a search warrant for the Anthony's house. Dec 11th, evening ( am Caylee was found) by Kronk. Milsted's basically destroyed evidence as far as I am concerned. What ever was there " What GA Did or had his hands in" or what was slinked together by GA/CA and the Milsteds - needed to be gone. $$$$$
http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/officials-seek-search-warrant-for-home-of-caylees-grandparents/
my post is getting Huge. I have more to add. Desi would be proud of Me (( I hope))




Hi Deenie and loca and all you other Monks who are here tonight.  Hope you had a great Easter.

Deenie, your post was huge and full of insightful info.  I love these posts which are chock full of stuff I hadn't heard before as yours was.  I haven't had time to listen to all of these depos or even read them so it's helpful to me when someone who has more energy than I reads them and/or listens and comments. It was interesting to me that GA showed up basically just to collect the cash.  Wonder if he paid taxes on it?  I think that would have been prior to the Ants setting up their scam-sham foundation so it would have been taxable.  But then I wonder if anybody ever paid taxes on the $200,000 from ABC or the $20,000 that the Ants say they got for pics. Then there's the $70,000 from Macaluso.  Wonder if he paid gift tax on it and wonder if Casey or Baez reported it?  I think there's fertile ground here for the IRS, but I wouldn't sic the IRS on anybody, even the Ants.

I agree with you that LT must remember the tape because of the circumstances of Georgie-Porgie bringing it from home.  She probably just doesn't want to say it was odd looking duct tape. 

Thanks for taking the time to post this info.  It's appreciated.

Hi Babybear and deenie
I had a wonderful day hope yours was as blessed.
I love all your posts here ! I finaly heard the whole blog radio and did hear about the licorice. Lets see what tomorrow brings. nejame will rim baez a new butt!! whole.

baby bear
wonder how much george pocketed behind cindys back lol you know he did.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: loca on April 04, 2010, 11:37:49 PM
Rozzie Franko is saying Baez is sneaking in twizzler licorice for miss-poopie-pants.... ::rhino::

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this

why am I not hearing about the licorice where in the show is this?
seemonthebeach
I heard it! I had to rehear it(is that even a word lol)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 04, 2010, 11:44:08 PM
Casey Anthony Back In Court, Lawyers Seek Volunteer Info
Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:17:02 PM
ORLANDO -- The Casey Anthony case heads back into an Orange County courtroom Monday.

The hearing will focus on whether Casey Anthony's lawyers should get access to records of the people who volunteered to search for her daughter.

Anthony's lawyers want Texas EquuSearch to turn over all records relating to searches done near the woods where Caylee's remains were found.
   
But the group is fighting the request, saying it invades the privacy of many of the volunteers who joined in the search.
     
And the group's lawyers say Anthony's defense team is just wasting taxpayer money with the motions.

It's also possible the judge will talk about the release of more than 250 pages of secret letters Anthony exchanged with another inmate at the jail.

Those letters have led to one corrections officer being relieved of duty.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/4/casey_anthony_back_in_court_lawyers_seek_volunteer_info.html


Don't forget court tomorrow at 10 AM Eastern


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 04, 2010, 11:44:55 PM
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Looking forward to the hearing tomorrow morning.

Deenie, not sure you have it but I posted this here way back -  Holly G was listed as a board member for the Scamanthony foundation as well as Brenda Black
Link to Florida Non Profit Corporation   
CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY FOUNDATION, INC.:
Florida Non Profit Corporation   
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?action=DETFIL&inq_doc_number=N08000009792&inq_came_from=NAMFWD&cor_web_names_seq_number=0000&names_name_ind=N&names_cor_number=&names_name_seq=&names_name_ind=&names_comp_name=CAYLEEANTHONYFOUNDATION&names_filing_type=

Amendment:
http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/44916802.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Babybear on April 04, 2010, 11:49:51 PM
loca--I think George probably threw it up into the air and what didn't come back down belonged to Cindy. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 04, 2010, 11:56:30 PM
Continued of Interview with Linda Tinelli
I think that Linda Tinelli's interview is filled with too many I don't knows and some make shift quick .. answers.

I have come to find out through out all involved within * Testimonies, Depo's and alike -
The answer all depends on how the question is worded. Meaning you can ask the same question 3 different ways and get  3 different responses. NO one is telling the truth.
Depending on who is doing the asking. Bobo has proved himself over and over with that.
Let the State prosecutors ask him the 4th time and all of a sudden " OH I forget to mention the Truth". Then he finally coughs up something that is probably sitting on paper " on record" within the prosecutors laps. He is such a Bobo.

Going back to Tinelli.  She is I believe a resident of Orlando. She does have record of residence in PA. She also has many names.  She has had many houses " as addresses" not necessarily owner but her name came up with many addresses attached to her now Husband Tinelli. But they are very very nice houses in Florida. New and Beautiful. Rentals? I guess. Her real name is Olive Linda Wilson. Wilson her maiden name. She also has the last name of LaMarch - from her ex Leo. Olive Lamarch. She is 60 yrs of age. Her first name is Olive middle Linda she married Tinelli in 99
http://or.occompt.com/recorder/eagleweb/viewDoc.jsp?node=DOCC13468003
What I found was that she still was using her last name Lamarch on legal papers into the 2005's. http://or.occompt.com/recorder/eagleweb/docSearchResults.jsp?searchId=4
She has an address that keeps coming up in Thorndale PA - Olive Linda Bingaman. Its linked to all her names Wilson, Lamarch, Tinelli.
http://www.veromi.com/Search.aspx?sType=name&db=&fn=olive&mn=L&ln=bingaman&city=&state=&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=

Her documents are all mixed between the name of Tinelli and LaMarch - after she married Tinelli. Her name is still back and forth depending on the address of the house - she is either O Linda Lamarch or Linda Lamarch or Linda Tinelli.  All I can gather is the use of multiple names is related to credit. I don't know. I guess its right for some to finagle names around for many years and not think twice. I just thought it was interesting that she had so many names.
The only employment I could come up with was within the name of Linda Lamarch and that was of a woman who held or holds the position of  Catering Director at the Raddison Orlando next to the Airport.
http://www.georgefakhoury.com/2073.html
snipped:
"Thank you for the Hotel Training Seminar you conducted.  I found the material you gave were very informative and beneficial to my position.  I am sure my colleagues found the information equally as impressive."
Linda Lamarch
Director of Catering
Radisson Hotel Orlando International Airport – 1996
** from reading her words within the interview she did not seem to be this articulate, I may be wrong. Spell check is wonderful tool. :)


 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 05, 2010, 12:09:13 AM
Hello's and Hugs all around.

I could not find,  hoping someone can recall
Can anyone remember the Date ? that Cindy and George flew home from Cali ? Was it the night of the 11th or was it the morning of the 12th of December ?? or?

Thank you Loca and Capp.  I did not know that Holly G was once a member of  USS "failure" KFN





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 12:14:33 AM
Hello's and Hugs all around.

I could not find,  hoping someone can recall
Can anyone remember the Date ? that Cindy and George flew home from Cali ? Was it the night of the 11th or was it the morning of the 12th of December ?? or?

Thank you Loca and Capp.  I did not know that Holly G was once a member of  USS "failure" KFN



Deenie Cindy and George flew home the morning of 12/11, their appearance on LKL was the vening before...they lied their faces off & then worse yet upon hearing this news they immediately made a deal with their paid media source to go to the Ritz including a full course dinner instead of home or to surround themselves with family...odd behavior to say the least.   I dont buy getting away from the media for one sec, especially with these scum.  Most people would be absolutely devastated and extremely distraught, in deep mourning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 12:18:04 AM

Thank you Loca and Capp.  I did not know that Holly G was once a member of  USS "failure" KFN

Caylee Marie Foundation - the Anthonys attempt to get more blood money in Caylee's name


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 05, 2010, 12:22:02 AM
I have no clue how I found this today - but I must share ..
http://community.livejournal.com/orlando_parents

If you go to the link - the posters name avatar is pastel colors and is the name Melissa
I am wondering if this is Melissa E ?? the infamous Cindy blogger ~if she posted this on July 20, 2008
full copy:
Sunday, July 20th, 2008
8:08 pm
[_meliska]
   
Help find Caylee!
my name is Caylee Marie Anthony.
i am almost 3 years old.
i have shoulder-length, light brown hair
and i have dark hazel (brown/green) eyes.
i have a birth mark on my left shoulder/arm.
i'm approximately 3 feet tall,
and weigh about 35 lbs.

i have been missing since Monday, June 9, 2008.

last seen with Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez.

if you have any information,
please contact my family at the following numbers:

Casey Anthony(mother) 407.619.9286
Cindy Anthony(grandmother) 407.808.4731
George Anthony(grandfather) 407.403.3564
Lee Anthony(uncle) 407.808.5132
House of Anthony 407.275.4909

i want to see my family again.
again, if you have any information, you may also contact:

Detective Yuri Melich
cell 321.388.2396
office 407.254.7000 (ext. 70633)
Orange County Sheriff's Office

Caylee's Myspace

How to Help

We have received a tremendous amount of messages and calls from family, friends, and even complete strangers that have been touched by the ongoing search. The offers to lend a helping hand in any way possible has been amazing. We ask that you continue to re-post the bulletins and the information on the "Caylee Is Missing Myspace Page". The direct link to this page is:

www.myspace.com/cayleeismissing

www.helpfindcaylee.com

We enourage you to do what you can to reach out through your friends, family, and community about Caylee's story. The more people that know about Caylee the better chance we have on bringing this little angel back home where she belongs. Many people have offered to produce and/or distribute fliers and posters. Visit the website below to obtain a copy of the flier that has been created by the Kid Finders Network.

It is suggested to print as many fliers as possible and keep them with you, at work, in your vehicle, etc. Many places may be willing to have the flier be displayed for all eyes to see and some may even donate copies of the flier, please do not be afraid to ask. If you have the opportunity we plead that you invest any time that you can to assist in getting the message out, where ever you are in the world. We are taking flier donations of any amount. To coordinate how fliers can be picked up in the greater Orlando area please contact Caylee's uncle, Lee Anthony, at 407-808-5132. You may also contact Lee Anthony via email at leeaanthony@gmail.com (two a's). We also are encouraging any flier donations to be delivered or shipped to:

Help Find Caylee - Fliers
4937 Hopespring Dr.
Orlando, FL 32829

Above all we ask for your continued support by focusing on the task at hand, which is finding our precious little girl. The love that this family has for one another has and will never waiver. From Cindy, George, Lee, Casey, Caylee, all of our family, friends, and loved ones we pray that you remain focused and positive.
You can link directly to the flier at:

http://www.kidfindersnetwork.com/files/CayleeFlyer.pdf

If you are having ANY troubles downloading/saving this file, and need it sent to you via email so you can produce your own copies, please email Caylee's Uncle at LeeAAnthony@gmail.com (two a's).


Thank you,

-The Anthony Family


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 12:27:22 AM
I would say so Deenie


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 05, 2010, 12:35:17 AM
Hello's and Hugs all around.

I could not find,  hoping someone can recall
Can anyone remember the Date ? that Cindy and George flew home from Cali ? Was it the night of the 11th or was it the morning of the 12th of December ?? or?

Thank you Loca and Capp.  I did not know that Holly G was once a member of  USS "failure" KFN



Deenie Cindy and George flew home the morning of 12/11, their appearance on LKL was the vening before...they lied their faces off & then worse yet upon hearing this news they immediately made a deal with their paid media source to go to the Ritz including a full course dinner instead of home or to surround themselves with family...odd behavior to say the least.   I dont buy getting away from the media for one sec, especially with these scum.  Most people would be absolutely devastated and extremely distraught, in deep mourning.
Thank you I could not remember when they arrived home. I agree with you 100 percent. Well it goes to show you that they already knew. Remember back when Cindy was on Tv and she looked like she had been hit by a freight train. She looked like she was for real for once. She was Gone. I think that is when she figured it out. And that was early in the investigation. She was wiped out.  I wish I could remember what media station she was on or who was interviewing her. Can you remember?
That in itself was another time that Cindy could have come clean. But nope not so, could not do it. George and Cindy are like comic book villains "characters" at this point. I don't believe their human. Or have one once of compassion between the two of them. If you squeezed them I don't think a tear would come out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 05, 2010, 12:44:22 AM
I would say so Deenie
If it is Melissa E she sure had herself deep in, she still does. I think she may be sorry at one point when this all comes out.  Being Cindy's Eye Spy just might bite her back.  Who would want to be that close to Cindy within this case. Playing traitor I mean. I don't believe she/ME was in it to find Caylee. Playing Hawaii 5-0 with Cindy was her game.
This as I have said numerous times here - Caylee's case is going to go down in history within the legal system. Why would anyone want to " Play with Cindy" and then go back and pull punches and BLOG about it- Without thinking at one point they too will find themselves in the fire.

Makes no sense


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 12:54:03 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-courtroom-interactive%2C0%2C7877507.htmlpage

Who shows up to Casey's hearings. Interactive picture. Identifies people. Interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 05, 2010, 06:38:18 AM
Hello's and Hugs all around.

I could not find,  hoping someone can recall
Can anyone remember the Date ? that Cindy and George flew home from Cali ? Was it the night of the 11th or was it the morning of the 12th of December ?? or?

Thank you Loca and Capp.  I did not know that Holly G was once a member of  USS "failure" KFN





Deenie Cindy and George flew home the morning of 12/11, their appearance on LKL was the vening before...they lied their faces off & then worse yet upon hearing this news they immediately made a deal with their paid media source to go to the Ritz including a full course dinner instead of home or to surround themselves with family...odd behavior to say the least.   I dont buy getting away from the media for one sec, especially with these scum.  Most people would be absolutely devastated and extremely distraught, in deep mourning.


Didn't Hoover tell LE Cindy and Dom Casey were taking strolls around the golf course at the Ritz. Hoover spent the early morning of Dec. 12th having coffee and possibly a danish with Georgie girl, who talked about the probable divorce of he and Cindy. (when this is all over) What the he!! does that even mean? when this is all over?.....
Is this behavior of shocked, distraught people just notified not 24 hours before, that remains of their grand daughter were found reduced to bones?
He!! to the NO! The same people, less than 24 hours before were spewing their BS on LKL that Caylee was still alive......

They knew darn well, Caylee was dead, and who murdered her.......the A's make me sick!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 07:35:15 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-court-hearing-20100405,0,6990498.story
Casey Anthony asks judge for more search group’s records
Defense attorneys want records of volunteer searchers who helped Texas EquuSearch look for Caylee before remains were found.
By Sarah Lundy, Orlando Sentinel
 
6:10 a.m. EDT, April 5, 2010
04/05/10
Casey Anthony gets to leave the Orange County Jail for another court appearance this morning.

This time, lawyers will be arguing over access to more records for the volunteer group that helped looked for Casey Anthony's daughter, Caylee Marie, in 2008. The hearing is at 10 a.m.

Casey Anthony, 24, is charged with first-degree murder in the death Caylee. The 2-year-old's remains were found in December 2008 — five months after the toddler was reported missing by her family.

While she was missing, thousands of volunteers with Texas EquuSearch scoured acres throughout Orange County on two separate occasions. The group claims 32 people searched the woods around the location where the remains were later found but did not go to the exact spot. Flooding at the time kept the volunteers out, the group said.

Last year, Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland ordered EquuSearch to allow the defense team to review its records of those 32 people.

Casey Anthony's defense team says they have found other volunteers who were not on the list but did search the area where the remains were found and didn't see anything unusual. These witnesses may be key for defense attorneys who may argue at trial that someone other than Casey Anthony left the toddler's body in the woods.

The defense is asking Strickland to allow its team to review all of EquuSearch's records.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 07:38:48 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/040510-casey-anthony
Casey Anthony to return to court today
Updated: Monday, 05 Apr 2010, 6:12 AM EDT
Published : Monday, 05 Apr 2010, 5:47 AM EDT

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Casey Anthony's defense team will be in court today for a hearing over documents related to the search for Caylee. The defense wants to know more about Equusearch.

Equusearch is the search and rescue group from Texas that hunted around the same spot where Caylee was eventually found.
<snipped>


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 08:10:18 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/23052735/detail.html
Hearing Held In Case Against Casey Anthony
Young Mother Scheduled To Be In Court At 10 A.M.

POSTED: 5:39 am EDT April 5, 2010
UPDATED: 6:09 am EDT April 5, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
Casey Anthony's defense team wants to get their hands on Texas EquuSearch records, but Tim Miller, president of the group, opposed the idea, calling it an invasion of privacy for the volunteers who searched for the Caylee.

Casey Anthony is being held on no bond on the Orange County Jail. She is charged with murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. Caylee's remains were found in December 2008 by a meter reader. Anthony, 24, maintains that a nanny by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee.

A judge will make a decision at a hearing at 10 a.m. Monday at the Orange County courthouse.

Texas EquuSearch is the organization that looked for Caylee for months. Thousands of people from all over volunteered their time to search for the missing little girl.
Anthony's attorneys want to know the names of the volunteers who searched the area of Suburban Drive and Hidden Oaks Elementary.

The defense said they've interviewed several volunteers who searched the area where Caylee's remains were found and did not find a body, notice any smells or see any unusual animal or insect activity.

Also, Texas EquuSearch claims 32 volunteers were ever in that area, but the defense said that is not the case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 05, 2010, 08:43:59 AM
Good morning, Monkeys!  I hope your holiday was wonderful.  The roofers are here, I'm waiting for the carpet guys to replace the basement carpet, and my husband is impatiently breathing down my neck, (and not in a good way!) to dismantle the computer so they can carpet my office.  I'm officially going to be offline during the hearing.  AAAAAARRRRRGGGGHH!
(I may have to go to the library so I don't go through withdrawal.)  So thanks all for the updates and links and interesting observations over the weekend.  Deenie, nice detective work on the Linda T. person.  I think the biggest takeaway I get is that no player in this case comes away with clean hands.  Even the ones that seem to be in it for the right reasons end up muddied. Frushtrating...
Well, have to go, please do that Voodoo that you do so well, and I'll catch up on the other side of carpet land!
 ::MonkeyGavel::
(Hope today we see some Real Justice for Caylee!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 08:44:18 AM
Hi Monks. I hope everyone one has had a blessed Easter. Ours was spent with family and friends.....lots of good company and goods food. It was so much fun watching the little ones scurrying around to find the brightly dyed eggs....and we were blessed with glorious weather.

Caylee would have loved it!!

Hi Sunny
it's pouring here in calif! Glad you had a blessed christmas. Jesus is the reason for this day.
I am thinking of little caylee in heaven  playing with the angels ! chasing butterflies.
she is now a little  ::MonkeyAngel::

Sorry about the rain!  Did you feel the earthquake???  I hope all of our CA monks are OK....................LOL....loca...Christmas was great too! ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 08:45:16 AM
Hi Monks. I hope everyone one has had a blessed Easter. Ours was spent with family and friends.....lots of good company and goods food. It was so much fun watching the little ones scurrying around to find the brightly dyed eggs....and we were blessed with glorious weather.

Caylee would have loved it!!

Hi Sunny
it's pouring here in calif! Glad you had a blessed christmas. Jesus is the reason for this day.
I am thinking of little caylee in heaven  playing with the angels ! chasing butterflies.
she is now a little  ::MonkeyAngel::
::MonkeyHaHa::
omg I mean easter lol

I knew and still laughed!!! ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 08:47:34 AM
Rozzie Franko is saying Baez is sneaking in twizzler licorice for miss-poopie-pants.... ::rhino::

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this

thanks seeme ...guess I have to go listen!! ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 08:48:36 AM
Hey Monkalicious.  Don't be gone long!    ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 08:50:49 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
Linda Tinelli’s interview: A Few very strange Questions

Posted on April 5th, 2010 by Valhall


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Monkey with Class on April 05, 2010, 09:37:50 AM
As always,  much appreciated if one of our Monks can post a


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 09:38:02 AM
 ::MonkeyGavel:: Good morning  ::MonkeyGavel::

Its a glorious Monday for denial  ::MonkeyHaHa::   Nejame take em to church!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Monkey with Class on April 05, 2010, 09:39:10 AM
As always,  much appreciated if one of our Monks can post a link to a live feed in court room.  (if they are having it live?)

That was weird..  Good morning Monkeys!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 09:40:52 AM
As always,  much appreciated if one of our Monks can post a link to a live feed in court room.  (if they are having it live?)

That was weird..  Good morning Monkeys!!

No live link yet ...Im waiting for it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Mary on April 05, 2010, 09:41:29 AM
Court tv is covering it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 09:42:32 AM
http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/23052735/detail.html
Hearing Slated In Case Against Casey Anthony
Young Mother Scheduled To Be In Court At 10 A.M.

POSTED: 5:39 am EDT April 5, 2010
UPDATED: 9:33 am EDT April 5, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
Casey Anthony's defense team wants to get their hands on Texas EquuSearch records, but Tim Miller, president of the group, opposed the idea, calling it an invasion of privacy for the volunteers who searched for the Caylee.

Casey Anthony is being held on no bond on the Orange County Jail. She is charged with murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. Caylee's remains were found in December 2008 by a meter reader. Anthony, 24, maintains that a nanny by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee.

A judge will make a decision at a hearing at 10 a.m. Monday at the Orange County courthouse.

Texas EquuSearch is the organization that looked for Caylee for months. Thousands of people from all over volunteered their time to search for the missing little girl.
Anthony's attorneys want to know the names of the volunteers who searched the area of Suburban Drive and Hidden Oaks Elementary.

The defense said they've interviewed several volunteers who searched the area where Caylee's remains were found and did not find a body, notice any smells or see any unusual animal or insect activity.

Also, Texas EquuSearch claims 32 volunteers were ever in that area, but the defense said that is not the case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 09:44:27 AM
Live Web Cam: Casey Anthony hearing - Orange County Courthouse
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/video/web_cam_1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 05, 2010, 09:45:38 AM
watching In Sessions now...talking about Casey's case...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: darla on April 05, 2010, 09:48:05 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!
Hope everyone had a wonderful and blessed Easter.

I hope someone in the hearing this morning tells that stupid Bozo that by September ,when the search was going on that there was nothing left to leave an odor.

I want to see Bozo get smacked down so bad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Monkey with Class on April 05, 2010, 09:48:05 AM
Las Vegas odds

That Mark NeJame will school Baez  =   3 to 5

That Baez will get the info he wants =  100 to 1

That Baez will in turn file more pointless motions =  1 to 2

_____________________________

Looking like a Mark NeJame day to me.....



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 09:48:21 AM
Live Web Cam: Casey Anthony hearing - Orange County Courthouse
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/video/web_cam_1

Casey Anthony in court: Watch live video and chat at 10 a.m.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-court-video-chat,0,7960169.htmlpage

WATCH LIVE: Casey Anthony Hearing At 10:00am
http://www.wftv.com/news/23053460/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Monkey with Class on April 05, 2010, 09:50:58 AM
Live Web Cam: Casey Anthony hearing - Orange County Courthouse
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/video/web_cam_1

Casey Anthony in court: Watch live video and chat at 10 a.m.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-court-video-chat,0,7960169.htmlpage

WATCH LIVE: Casey Anthony Hearing At 10:00am
http://www.wftv.com/news/23053460/detail.html

Thanks Trimm!!!!

Fox is always blocked at my work.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 09:55:31 AM
watching In Sessions now...talking about Casey's case...

Cookie!   They just discussed previous rumor talk that the Anthonys were going to get a divorce (back at the Ritz according to Hoover from George 12/12/08),   Now discussing the letters - mom & dad not there to visit, Casey needing someone to talk to, God I hate when they give an angle that sympathizes with that monster, seriously do these people read?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 09:56:47 AM
Going live right now

http://www.wftv.com/video/23053765/index.html

And on TruTV cable


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:00:20 AM
Mason looks like a clown ice cream man

George & Cindy are there with their NBC friend, Jim right at their side again


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 10:02:21 AM
Live Web Cam: Casey Anthony hearing - Orange County Courthouse
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/video/web_cam_1

Good Morning Monks!  thanks trim!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 05, 2010, 10:03:31 AM
Hello's and Hugs all around.

I could not find,  hoping someone can recall
Can anyone remember the Date ? that Cindy and George flew home from Cali ? Was it the night of the 11th or was it the morning of the 12th of December ?? or?

Thank you Loca and Capp.  I did not know that Holly G was once a member of  USS "failure" KFN



Deenie Cindy and George flew home the morning of 12/11, their appearance on LKL was the vening before...they lied their faces off & then worse yet upon hearing this news they immediately made a deal with their paid media source to go to the Ritz including a full course dinner instead of home or to surround themselves with family...odd behavior to say the least.   I dont buy getting away from the media for one sec, especially with these scum.  Most people would be absolutely devastated and extremely distraught, in deep mourning.
Thank you I could not remember when they arrived home. I agree with you 100 percent. Well it goes to show you that they already knew. Remember back when Cindy was on Tv and she looked like she had been hit by a freight train. She looked like she was for real for once. She was Gone. I think that is when she figured it out. And that was early in the investigation. She was wiped out.  I wish I could remember what media station she was on or who was interviewing her. Can you remember?
That in itself was another time that Cindy could have come clean. But nope not so, could not do it. George and Cindy are like comic book villains "characters" at this point. I don't believe their human. Or have one once of compassion between the two of them. If you squeezed them I don't think a tear would come out.

I think this is the interview you're referring to, where Cindy looks totally beaten down:

http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=GeorgeAnthonyInterview_112020081037&cat=Local&title=George%20Anthony%20Interview

Thanks for all your hard work, Deenie.    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:05:38 AM
HAHAHA

Waiting for a witness that has yet to appear!


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Post by: Tevye on April 05, 2010, 10:06:03 AM
I see Casey is liking that whole "prison stripes" fashion look. They look good on her!


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Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 10:07:23 AM
I see Casey is liking that whole "prison stripes" fashion look. They look good on her!

Yes,they do!   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 10:08:06 AM
Baez is already making me sick.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:08:17 AM
OMG   Bozo is going to try to shine TES as misrepresenting facts    OK people get ready because Nejame is going to hand Bozo his arse


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 05, 2010, 10:11:12 AM
watching it now...Casey playing the all important microphone monitor....fussing with her hair and her shirt...God she makes me sick! she is looking around for the camera to be on her...a smirk on her face..
why does her hair always look  greasy???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:12:44 AM
OOOOOO

The judge just asked Bozo "What makes you think they are from TES?"     O this is going to be good....expect the word DENIED


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 05, 2010, 10:13:39 AM
OOOOOO

The judge just asked Bozo "What makes you think they are from TES?"     O this is going to be good....expect the word DENIED
::MonkeyDance:: I hope so - Bia$$ is making my blood boil.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:13:53 AM
BOZO is going with body was there after Casey was in jail, which creates reasonable doubt


HELLO, her car you moron!


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Post by: tupelohoney on April 05, 2010, 10:14:11 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

It just sickens me to the core that the defense is trying to drag innocent people into this. Will it ever stop?!  Can't wait to hear from NeJame....it's gonna be good.


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Post by: Western Observr on April 05, 2010, 10:16:33 AM
I can't get those live feeds so will watch it on Court TV- I just turned on and I don't need Dr Lillian Glass to tell me that JS is already ticked off- watch him when he starts rocking back and forth in his chair- he is annoyed with  Bozo...    he does it every time. 


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Post by: Sea Searcher on April 05, 2010, 10:19:24 AM
watching it now...Casey playing the all important microphone monitor....fussing with her hair and her shirt...God she makes me sick! she is looking around for the camera to be on her...a smirk on her face..
why does her hair always look  greasy???

Spending all her money on Cheeze Doodles instead of shampoo...just a thought ::MonkeyTongue::

Morning Monkeys !
(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/ss-coffee-easter-ears3-slippers.gif)


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Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:20:06 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

It just sickens me to the core that the defense is trying to drag innocent people into this. Will it ever stop?!  Can't wait to hear from NeJame....it's gonna be good.

Unscrupulous


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 10:20:50 AM
watching it now...Casey playing the all important microphone monitor....fussing with her hair and her shirt...God she makes me sick! she is looking around for the camera to be on her...a smirk on her face..
why does her hair always look  greasy???

Spending all her money on Cheeze Doodles instead of shampoo...just a thought ::MonkeyTongue::

Morning Monkeys !
(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/ss-coffee-easter-ears3-slippers.gif)

And hot peanuts.    ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 05, 2010, 10:20:58 AM
why does George allow Bozo to say "remains" in regards to Caylee but gets pissy when anyone else says that about Caylee? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:21:23 AM
watching it now...Casey playing the all important microphone monitor....fussing with her hair and her shirt...God she makes me sick! she is looking around for the camera to be on her...a smirk on her face..
why does her hair always look  greasy???

Spending all her money on Cheeze Doodles instead of shampoo...just a thought ::MonkeyTongue::

Morning Monkeys !
(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/ss-coffee-easter-ears3-slippers.gif)

Now she is putting on her mad face as if she were innocent & deserves to be upset that she is so wrongly being accused....beeotch please the rest of the world has got your number so SHUT IT


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Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 10:23:29 AM
Go NeJame, Go!!!

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 10:24:05 AM
Judge Strickland has been irritated from the start.  lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:24:28 AM
Judge schooling Bozo now as to why everyone is in court today.... ::MonkeyHaHa::

BOZOThere is NO discovery violation you two bit excuse of an attorney...talk about attempting to create smoke & mirrors, good lord!


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Post by: BooMonkey on April 05, 2010, 10:24:47 AM
Apparently Baez wants to do a little mock trial right now. Can't stay on subject to save his life! Can you imagine how he's going to run the real trial?? Baez is whining now!! Waaaa, why wont you listen to me!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:25:42 AM
Go NeJame, Go!!!

 ::MonkeyGavel::

OMG Brandi, he's got his eyeglasses tweeked & he is at the ready!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 10:26:13 AM
Is Baez deliberately mis-pronouncing Mark NeJames' last name???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:28:27 AM
I will tell you all what Im sick to tears hearing ...."Casey Anthony's constitutional rights"   CAYLEE's rights to have justice served is what this is about!

Bozo is losing miserably at the moment


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 10:28:33 AM
Is Baez deliberately mis-pronouncing Mark NeJames' last name???
All I can say is Wow.   ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 10:28:44 AM
Apparently Baez wants to do a little mock trial right now. Can't stay on subject to save his life! Can you imagine how he's going to run the real trial?? Baez is whining now!! Waaaa, why wont you listen to me!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:28:45 AM
Is Baez deliberately mis-pronouncing Mark NeJames' last name???

In a word, YES


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:30:33 AM
OMFG look at the mean evil faces George & Cindy are wearing...same as Casey

Do they rehearse these expressions for effect?   yes


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 10:31:03 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image124.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 10:31:27 AM
What bombshells is that darn fool talking about?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: BooMonkey on April 05, 2010, 10:31:34 AM
Casey purses her lips and sticks her nose up in the air when talking about Caylee's remains and baby blanket.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:31:47 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image124.png)

HA tks Brandi we're on the same wave length...Im listening intently so Im not screencapping today


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 05, 2010, 10:31:54 AM
OMFG look at the mean evil faces George & Cindy are wearing...same as Casey

Do they rehearse these expressions for effect?   yes

Looks like Cindy is growing her hair out - makes her look younger.    ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: BooMonkey on April 05, 2010, 10:32:51 AM
OMG so much of a difference between whiny Baez and professional Nejame!  ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:33:02 AM
NEJAME  ....let the whooping begin!  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 10:33:19 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image124.png)

HA tks Brandi we're on the same wave length...Im listening intently so Im not screencapping today

We sure were!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image125.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 10:33:30 AM
OMFG look at the mean evil faces George & Cindy are wearing...same as Casey

Do they rehearse these expressions for effect?   yes

Looks like Cindy is growing her hair out - makes her look younger.    ::MonkeyRoll::
The whole family has the same evil look  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Mary on April 05, 2010, 10:34:05 AM
Cindy is sitting behind George. Maybe they are fighting again or still.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 10:34:25 AM
Bet it is hard for Colonel Sanders/Mason not to talk  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:36:35 AM
Bet it is hard for Colonel Sanders/Mason not to talk  ::MonkeyTongue::


BAHAHAA   OMG NRCG I just spit my coffee....good one!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 10:36:46 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image130.png)


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Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 10:37:54 AM
OMFG look at the mean evil faces George & Cindy are wearing...same as Casey

Do they rehearse these expressions for effect?   yes

Looks like Cindy is growing her hair out - makes her look younger.    ::MonkeyRoll::

You need more coffee!   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 10:39:03 AM
MJ is terrific!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: BooMonkey on April 05, 2010, 10:39:04 AM
OK, totally off subject, but can someone tell the female security guard to please trim the bang hair out of her eyes!! Just sayin!  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:39:08 AM
Did you catch Bozo snickering, well Bozo wait you wont be snickering shortly


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 05, 2010, 10:39:13 AM
OMFG look at the mean evil faces George & Cindy are wearing...same as Casey

Do they rehearse these expressions for effect?   yes

Looks like Cindy is growing her hair out - makes her look younger.    ::MonkeyRoll::

You need more coffee!   ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::     

Nejame is doing a good job!    ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: tupelohoney on April 05, 2010, 10:39:16 AM
OOMG   I love NeJame.....glad he brought up the bogus bombshells.  lololol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 05, 2010, 10:39:51 AM
GO MARK !!!!!! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: BooMonkey on April 05, 2010, 10:40:05 AM
OMG GOOOOOO NEJAME!!!!!  He's awesome!!!!  Passionate!!!! Kick ass!!!!!    ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 05, 2010, 10:40:20 AM
OK, totally off subject, but can someone tell the female security guard to please trim the bang hair out of her eyes!! Just sayin!  ::MonkeyKiss::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::    That's bothering me too!   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:40:21 AM
O SNAP!      Nejame GO!   "if they have time to do TV interviews, they have time to come to my office."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 10:40:25 AM
Did you catch Bozo snickering, well Bozo wait you wont be snickering shortly
I sure did  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 10:41:12 AM
OOMG   I love NeJame.....glad he brought up the bogus bombshells.  lololol

me too!  I AM LOVING THIS   ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:41:23 AM
Word of the day "ascertainable"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 10:41:56 AM
OOMG   I love NeJame.....glad he brought up the bogus bombshells.  lololol

me too!  I AM LOVING THIS   ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::
Enjoyable to see a real lawyer in action  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sea Searcher on April 05, 2010, 10:42:01 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image130.png)

He's on a Roll !!!  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:42:38 AM
Lauren Buchanan statement ....not sworn to


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 10:43:01 AM
OMG GOOOOOO NEJAME!!!!!  He's awesome!!!!  Passionate!!!! Kick ass!!!!!    ::MonkeyCheer4::

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image127.png)

Got a shot of the bangs for you in there also  lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:43:27 AM
Lauren Buchanan statement ....not sworn to

"blanchard"  there was a breakaway of which at that time they went out on their own...BOO YAY!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: BooMonkey on April 05, 2010, 10:45:21 AM
OMG Casey is giving Nejame the evil eye!!! Duck MN, she's shooting daggers at you!!! Baez giving the squinty eye too.   ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 10:45:43 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image136.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:47:44 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image136.png)
Title:   CONTEMPT    Good job Brandi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 05, 2010, 10:48:13 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image130.png)

He's on a Roll !!!  ::MonkeyGavel::

I love it! he is kicking ass!!! love it love love it! come over to my office after court today he says to see the documents..they have been there all this time...! ya hoo!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 10:48:28 AM
Did Lyons quit already, or is she too hung over from chocolate bunnies?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 10:49:38 AM
04/05/2010           Motion to Compel
Production of Tape Recorded Statement of Joe Jordan
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 05, 2010, 10:49:41 AM
Did Lyons quit already, or is she too hung over from chocolate bunnies?
OMG LMAO!!!!  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 10:50:00 AM
Why is the TV reception/sound so choppy & terrible?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:50:27 AM
Bozo, more bunk and bull. ..you have everything you need to do a deposition, dont even go there


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: BooMonkey on April 05, 2010, 10:51:16 AM
Did Lyons quit already, or is she too hung over from chocolate bunnies?

She's still in bed, clutching a half eaten chocolate bunny with peeps strewn around the room. Ummmm this is Lyons, I won't be in today, but I'll watch the live stream.

Anyone hear whispering??? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 10:52:41 AM
Did Lyons quit already, or is she too hung over from chocolate bunnies?

She's still in bed, clutching a half eaten chocolate bunny with peeps strewn around the room. Ummmm this is Lyons, I won't be in today, but I'll watch the live stream.

Anyone hear whispering??? 
::MonkeyDance:: No whispering, but it is choppy and I miss some of the words.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 10:53:38 AM
Is that Lee next to the bald news guy sitting next to Cindy  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:53:52 AM
No way, Bozo you are not in Nejame's league...dont get it twisted    Nejame hasnt come close to holding press conferences as much as you have...ask your "buddy" Whoraldo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 10:54:41 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image144.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 10:55:30 AM
Baez is crazy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 10:55:51 AM
They are trying to kill Miss Anthony  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: BooMonkey on April 05, 2010, 10:55:56 AM
Damn, I gotta go to work now. Keep up the commentary monkeys I will be back to read it all tonight!!!

Love you guys!!! Go Nejame!!!    ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 10:56:23 AM
Baez is crazy.
And then some, he actually must think he is a lawyer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 10:56:31 AM
WHOA   Bozo  "Why the defense is getting evidence a year later, and why is it people are afraid to get to the truth in this case, they're trying to kill Miss Anthony..."   Is he serious?    Nope, he's not an actor even

O God get the puke bucket


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 10:56:47 AM
Damn, I gotta go to work now. Keep up the commentary monkeys I will be back to read it all tonight!!!

Love you guys!!! Go Nejame!!!    ::MonkeyCheer4::
Will do have a good day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 10:56:55 AM
Is that Lee next to the bald news guy sitting next to Cindy  ::MonkeyEek::
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image145.png)

I don't think so, but it could be.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 10:57:53 AM
Is that Lee next to the bald news guy sitting next to Cindy  ::MonkeyEek::
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image145.png)

I don't think so, but it could be.
I can't tell but the man at the end of the row looks like George Carlin  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 10:57:59 AM
Damn, I gotta go to work now. Keep up the commentary monkeys I will be back to read it all tonight!!!

Love you guys!!! Go Nejame!!!    ::MonkeyCheer4::

Have a good day, Boo!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 05, 2010, 10:59:17 AM
Judge can hardly keep from laughing at Bozo..! he is trying hard to contain himself...did anyone else notice the sortof smile on Judge's face??? love it! I have to leave soon...hope that they get this over with soon!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 11:00:03 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image149.png)

Waiting for the day Strickland throws the book at Baez lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 11:00:50 AM
Prosecution is now arguing to slam the door

I totally anticipate this Order will be MOTION DENIED


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 11:01:34 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image149.png)

Waiting for the day Strickland throws the book at Baez lol

Me too, why o why cant he rule in court....grrrrrr


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 11:03:08 AM
The defense has to remember (relevant to the State's argument) that Cindy Anthony bequested TES to show up on the family's behalf to locate "a live Caylee"  (IMHO, that they already knew was not the case).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 11:03:13 AM
Prosecution is now arguing to slam the door

I totally anticipate this Order will be MOTION DENIED

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image151.png)

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image153.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 11:04:37 AM
Gotta love the voice that Baez just used  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 11:04:39 AM
Is that Lee next to the bald news guy sitting next to Cindy  ::MonkeyEek::

Might be;   Are those real estate folks sitting there with Geo & CinCin?  Looks like CinCin & the lady are wearing matching dresses;  Linda Drane-Burdick is wonderful.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 11:05:14 AM
Gotta love the voice that Baez just used  ::MonkeyTongue::

Sort of like braying ... lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 11:05:28 AM
We called it!   Mason just could not keep his mouth shut


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 11:06:39 AM
We called it!   Mason just could not keep his mouth shut
Here we go  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: theboyzmom on April 05, 2010, 11:06:58 AM
Photographic memory?  All you need is a piece of paper and write down the numbers of the pages and ask for copies - I used to do it all the time. Not that complicated.

now you want to have the state commit a felony by passing on a illegally recorded statement?  OMG.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 11:07:47 AM
We called it!   Mason just could not keep his mouth shut

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image155.png)


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Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 11:08:09 AM
Photographic memory?  All you need is a piece of paper and write down the numbers of the pages and ask for copies - I used to do it all the time. Not that complicated.

now you want to have the state commit a felony by passing on a illegally recorded statement?  OMG.


Mason, "not always"  please    That tape is NOT being released, period


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Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 11:13:16 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image158.png)


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Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 11:14:55 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image162.png)


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Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 11:17:21 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image162.png)

No Casey dont anticipate you'll be going to the beach anytime soon.


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Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 11:17:59 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image165.png)


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Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 11:18:00 AM
Yet again Casey is avoiding any contact with her parents


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Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 05, 2010, 11:19:00 AM
Yet again Casey is avoiding any contact with her parents
Big time and Cindy is yearning for a little attention - any at all.  To bad so sad Cindy.


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Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 11:19:59 AM
I half expect some emotional weird outburst from either Casey ... or CinCin.   


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Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 11:20:16 AM
By the time we get to trial, that mane of hair of Casey's is going to be beyond her sorry evil arse


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Post by: suzyinpgh on April 05, 2010, 11:20:50 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image162.png)

OMG What is that look for???  She looks like she just got some good news.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 11:20:54 AM
You have to wonder if Casey even knows why the he!! she is even sitting there in the courtroom. ::MonkeyEek::


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Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 11:21:01 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image167.png)


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Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 11:22:25 AM
OK so who was the witness for the defense that never showed up....Laura?  Jordan?   O wait maybe a ray of sunshine was supposed to walk in the court room...NOT! Too flippin ridiculous for words


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Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 11:23:02 AM
 A normal person would use this time to turn around and look at my parents....but my parents loved me and I them.............so I guess we really can't expect anyone in this family to act normally!!


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 11:23:21 AM
Why isn't Casey in the room with the judge and lawyers, usually she it?


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Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 05, 2010, 11:23:34 AM
You have to wonder if Casey even knows why the he!! she is even sitting there in the courtroom. ::MonkeyEek::
In Casey's twisted mind she is making a movie and she is the star  ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 11:24:25 AM
TRUTV just announced that both Bozo and Nejame will be interviewed, but separately after the hearing....this should be interesting how Bozo & Mason spin this.    Interesting Lyons isnt there since the $$ is now being budgeted by the State


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Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 11:24:30 AM
A normal person would use this time to turn around and look at my parents....but my parents loved me and I them.............so I guess we really can't expect anyone in this family to act normally!!

Casey is doing everything BUT looking at her parents. I missed the shot of Cindy leaning up towards her, and Casey having her back turned, oblivious that they were even there.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 11:24:54 AM
I'm surprised Cindy hasn't jumped the chairs yet to talk to Casey  ::MonkeyTongue::


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Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 11:25:13 AM
watching her fiddling with her hair and clothes and rubbing her hands makes my skin crawl


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Post by: Sassycat on April 05, 2010, 11:25:40 AM
A normal person would use this time to turn around and look at my parents....but my parents loved me and I them.............so I guess we really can't expect anyone in this family to act normally!!

So true.  Good point.


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Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 11:26:02 AM
Why isn't Casey in the room with the judge and lawyers, usually she it?

Did they go into chambers or are they still at sidebar?   She might not be there if the discussion is purely the illegally recorded interview (being that permission wasnt requested to all parties to have it taped).


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Post by: Sassycat on April 05, 2010, 11:26:46 AM
I'm surprised Cindy hasn't jumped the chairs yet to talk to Casey  ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 11:27:36 AM
WTF just happened???? 


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Post by: Sassycat on April 05, 2010, 11:27:43 AM
Is it over?    ::MonkeyEek::


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Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 11:29:00 AM
Ashton came out of that sidebar confident and jovial....good sign.   Mason looks like his fried chicken was handed to him.    Who is the long gray haired guy with the attache' at the end there that was in the audience?


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Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 11:29:14 AM
how strange was that.....and the last shot of Mr. Ashton had him shrugging his shoulders  and an I HAVE NOT IDEA look on his face.

Did KC have leg irons on?


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Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 11:29:25 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image170.png)

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image171.png)

Still avoiding contact with parents.


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Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 11:29:53 AM
Court's adjourned ... to be continued.   lol


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Post by: Wyks on April 05, 2010, 11:29:58 AM

Didn't Hoover tell LE Cindy and Dom Casey were taking strolls around the golf course at the Ritz. Hoover spent the early morning of Dec. 12th having coffee and possibly a danish with Georgie girl, who talked about the probable divorce of he and Cindy. (when this is all over) What the he!! does that even mean? when this is all over?.....
Is this behavior of shocked, distraught people just notified not 24 hours before, that remains of their grand daughter were found reduced to bones?
He!! to the NO! The same people, less than 24 hours before were spewing their BS on LKL that Caylee was still alive......

They knew darn well, Caylee was dead, and who murdered her.......the A's make me sick!

My earnest hope is that all this and more comes back to bite the A's in the butt!! 


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Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 05, 2010, 11:31:21 AM
watching her fiddling with her hair and clothes and rubbing her hands makes my skin crawl
And it is as if she fights to keep from breaking out laughing - she has that smirk on her face - I want to slap her.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 11:31:22 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23053193/detail.html
Casey's Defense Wants More Search Records
Equusearch Says No Volunteers Searched Location Where Caylee's Body Was Found

POSTED: Monday, April 5, 2010
UPDATED: 10:52 am EDT April 5,2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will appear in court this morning as her attorneys fight for records they said can help prove her innocence.
Anthony's defense team said it believes there are records that prove that the body of Anthony's daughter, Caylee Anthony, was not in the swampy area she was later found in until after Anthony was already arrested.

In a hearing at 10 a.m., Anthony's attorneys are expected to ask Judge Stan Strickland for more information about the approximately 4,000 volunteers who worked with Texas Equusearch to help search for Caylee's body.
The group searched for Caylee in the months leading up to the discovery of her body by a meter reader in December 2008. Caylee was 2 years old when she was reported missing in July 2008.

Last year, Equusearch turned over information about the 32 volunteers who helped search near the area where Caylee's remains were later found, but Anthony's defense team said it believes more people also searched the area.

The defense said it believes some of the volunteers would be able to testify that Caylee's remains were not in the woods in September 2008, the final time Anthony was arrested.

Even if records are turned over, the search group said no one was ever in the exact location where Caylee's body was found.

Anthony, 24, is being held at the Orange County Jail on no bond. She is charged with first-degree murder in her daughter's death.

Court Pictures: http://www.clickorlando.com/slideshow/news/23054272/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 11:31:33 AM

Still avoiding contact with parents.

yep, not even a glance ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 11:32:35 AM
I hope there is a video later which gives us a better view/sound.  Today's viewing was dreadful.


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Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 11:32:57 AM
how strange was that.....and the last shot of Mr. Ashton had him shrugging his shoulders  and an I HAVE NOT IDEA look on his face.

Did KC have leg irons on?

She always does, the audio was very clear today so the sound of them was especially delightful to the ear...they will be her transportation companion for life!


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Post by: luvmyboys on April 05, 2010, 11:33:05 AM
WOW why does she keep on avoiding her parents??? is it because she can't look at them because she knows she killed caylee,so she don't look at them out of guilt..or does she really hate them that much..i just don't understand??


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Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 11:33:16 AM
 Lawyers Seek Volunteer Information In Casey Case
Monday, April 05, 2010 11:27:21 AM
ORLANDO -- The Casey Anthony case is back in court.

Today's hearing focuses on whether Anthony's lawyers should receive access to records of the people who volunteered to search for her daughter.

Anthony's lawyers want Texas EquuSearch to turn over all records relating to searches done near the woods where Caylee's remains were found.

But the group is fighting the request, saying it invades the privacy of many of the volunteers who joined in the search.

The group's lawyers said Anthony's defense team is just wasting taxpayer money with the motions.

It's also possible the judge will talk about the release of more than 250 pages of secret letters Anthony exchanged with another inmate at the jail.

Those letters have led to one corrections officer being relieved of duty.
Live Courtroom Updates:

10:06 a.m. -- Attorney Andrea Lyon is not present in court. Only Jose Baez and Cheney Mason are there for Casey's defense.

10:29 a.m. -- Baez argues someone else put Caylee's body in the woods. Texas EquuSearch has let Brad Conway, George and Cindy Anthony's attorney, and media access to imporant documents, but defense wants to talk with anyone and everone who might have been present and search area.

10:33 a.m. -- Defense said e-mail from searcher saying he thought body was moved to the area after searching is a bombshell and they need to go through everything to find more bombshells.

10:34 a.m. -- Mark NeJame, attorney for Texas EquuSearch, said the defense never bothered to depose EquuSearch founder Tim Miller. NeJame is baffled they could say Miller wasn't available. No one has contacted Miller since August.

10:53 a.m. -- NeJame says the door is open to the defense to review and inspect documents, but because of laziness and sloppiness, the defense hasn't shown up.

10:54 a.m. -- Baez says NeJame is injecting himself in this case.

11:22 a.m. -- Attorneys are talking privately. NeJame blasted Baez again, calling him lazy, and the fact they dont' come by is "bothersome." NeJame said his sanctions will come from attorneys, not indegency funds, should the judge approve it.


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Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 11:34:25 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23053193/detail.html
Casey's Defense Wants More Search Records
Equusearch Says No Volunteers Searched Location Where Caylee's Body Was Found

POSTED: Monday, April 5, 2010
UPDATED: 10:52 am EDT April 5,2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will appear in court this morning as her attorneys fight for records they said can help prove her innocence.
Anthony's defense team said it believes there are records that prove that the body of Anthony's daughter, Caylee Anthony, was not in the swampy area she was later found in until after Anthony was already arrested.

In a hearing at 10 a.m., Anthony's attorneys are expected to ask Judge Stan Strickland for more information about the approximately 4,000 volunteers who worked with Texas Equusearch to help search for Caylee's body.
The group searched for Caylee in the months leading up to the discovery of her body by a meter reader in December 2008. Caylee was 2 years old when she was reported missing in July 2008.

Last year, Equusearch turned over information about the 32 volunteers who helped search near the area where Caylee's remains were later found, but Anthony's defense team said it believes more people also searched the area.

The defense said it believes some of the volunteers would be able to testify that Caylee's remains were not in the woods in September 2008, the final time Anthony was arrested.

Even if records are turned over, the search group said no one was ever in the exact location where Caylee's body was found.

Anthony, 24, is being held at the Orange County Jail on no bond. She is charged with first-degree murder in her daughter's death.

Court Pictures: http://www.clickorlando.com/slideshow/news/23054272/detail.html

thanks trim...that was fast!!

I must have missed something......was anything ruled on?


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Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 11:34:32 AM
http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/23054490/detail.html

Casey in Court


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Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 11:35:44 AM

Judge Delays Ruling On EquuSearch Documents
Defense Seeks Records Of Searchers

POSTED: 5:39 am EDT April 5, 2010
UPDATED: 11:28 am EDT April 5, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
Judge Stan Strickland withholded a ruling on the release of search records in the Casey Anthony investigation on Monday.

Anthony's defense team hopes to receive records from Texas EquuSearch, but Tim Miller, who is president of the group, opposes the motion. Miller called it an invasion of privacy for volunteers who searched for Caylee.

Anthony's attorneys want to know the names of the volunteers who searched the area around Suburban Drive and Hidden Oaks Elementary.

Lead defense attorney Jose Baez argued the records provided to him by EquuSearch are incomplete and difficult to read. He said EquuSearch claimed 32 volunteers searched the area where the remains of Caylee Anthony were found, but Baez said they've discovered more volunteers were there.

The defense has also claimed they've interviewed several volunteers who searched the area where the remains were found and did not find a body.

Attorney Mark NeJame represented Miller at the hearing. He said that Miller and the records have been available for months, and no request was made by the defense to speak with him or visit his office to review the documents.

NeJame also argued that the volunteers asked themselves not to have their identities revealed because of the intense media scrutiny of the case.

Judge Stan Strickland presided over the hearing at the Orange County courthouse and said he would issue a ruling later.

Casey Anthony is being held on no bond on the Orange County Jail. She is charged with murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. Caylee's remains were found in December 2008 by a meter reader. Anthony, 24, maintains that a nanny by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee.

Texas EquuSearch conducted searches for Caylee for months. Thousands of people from all over volunteered their time to search for the missing little girl.

http://www.wesh.com/news/23052735/detail.html


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Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 11:36:25 AM
how strange was that.....and the last shot of Mr. Ashton had him shrugging his shoulders  and an I HAVE NOT IDEA look on his face.

Did KC have leg irons on?

She always does, the audio was very clear today so the sound of them was especially delightful to the ear...they will be her transportation companion for life!

I left WFTV & switched over to the Sentinel. Which did you use?


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Post by: Northern Rose on April 05, 2010, 11:36:44 AM
Just before the lawyers went into chambers KC was trying to get the attention of one of her lawyers and said something to them pointing her finger at them.  Anyone catch what she said?



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Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 05, 2010, 11:37:05 AM
I'm lost too Sunny, why were they in Judges chambers or sidebar?  I got interrupted and missed what led to that?


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Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 11:37:42 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/23053460/detail.html
Judge Yet To Rule On Casey Defense Request
Posted: 8:17 am EDT April 5,2010Updated: 11:28 am EDT April 5,2010
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's defense team was be back in an Orange County courtroom Monday morning. Her lawyers arrived just before the 10:00am hearing where they will fight to see records from Texas EquuSearch.
Casey walked into the court room just ahead of 10:00am (raw video | images), wearing a striped button-down long sleeve collar shirt and dark pants.

Casey's attorneys want to know more about the volunteer search teams that looked for Caylee. Eyewitness News reported last week how the search group accused Casey's attorneys of wasting taxpayer money, with what they called "frivolous defense motions." Taxpayers are paying for Casey's defense.

Judge Stan Strickland did not immediately rule on the defense request for the EquuSearch records, saying he'd rule later Monday or Tuesday.

Meanwhile, we're waiting to hear whether Casey's attorneys filed a motion to keep her jail letters private. Eyewitness News also reported last week on 50 letters Casey had written to another Orange County inmate.

Investigators say the letters are incriminating. The judge has said he will probably release them.
CASEY ARRIVES: http://www.wftv.com/video/23054538/index.html  Images:  http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/23054592/detail.html
Motion for getting records:  http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21703813/detail.html
Response:  http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23023946/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 11:37:47 AM
http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/23054490/detail.html

Casey in Court

thanks brandi......I find it very telling that the A's have no family support....from either of the A's side.....the Coxes are sitting next to them.....NEW friends.... no family or long time friends.....very telling IMO


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Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 11:37:50 AM
TruTV has got it all wrong on two points...no searcher should have to have their privacy invaded & expectation that they might become a suspect in a murder case, for one.   Secondly, about the burden of going thru 4000 records by TES or if the defense team should go out there to plow thru their extensive records...its not that simple - the defense does not have card blanche to rifle thru an organizations records or invade private citizens privacy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 11:39:24 AM
http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/23054490/detail.html

Casey in Court

thanks brandi......I find it very telling that the A's have no family support....from either of the A's side.....the Coxes are sitting next to them.....NEW friends.... no family or long time friends.....very telling IMO

I do suspect that the Cox's are attempting to assist the Anthonys to get out of their mortgage woes, more likely not above board - no one with half a brain or level of morality would befriend these evil people without being of question themselves.... enough said.


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Post by: Wyks on April 05, 2010, 11:39:35 AM
What about Mallory in all this???  Why has she remained so quiet???  Remember she was at the Ant home when Caylee's remains were found.  IIRC there was a length of time before she answered LE's knock at the door.  I just would love to know what she might have been doing, what she might have to say about what she overheard the Ant family saying, saw them doing, etc.  Have we even read ANYthing from her?  No depo that I can recall.   Why not?? 

And the other weird thing I can remember from that time was after LE was finished with one search warrant, there were pics of Baez leaving the Ant home with bags of stuff.  Would love to know what he, as Casey's attorney, felt was so important that HE needed to remove.  ??? 





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Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 11:39:36 AM

Judge Delays Ruling On EquuSearch Documents
Defense Seeks Records Of Searchers

POSTED: 5:39 am EDT April 5, 2010
UPDATED: 11:28 am EDT April 5, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
Judge Stan Strickland withholded a ruling on the release of search records in the Casey Anthony investigation on Monday.

Anthony's defense team hopes to receive records from Texas EquuSearch, but Tim Miller, who is president of the group, opposes the motion. Miller called it an invasion of privacy for volunteers who searched for Caylee.

Anthony's attorneys want to know the names of the volunteers who searched the area around Suburban Drive and Hidden Oaks Elementary.

Lead defense attorney Jose Baez argued the records provided to him by EquuSearch are incomplete and difficult to read. He said EquuSearch claimed 32 volunteers searched the area where the remains of Caylee Anthony were found, but Baez said they've discovered more volunteers were there.

The defense has also claimed they've interviewed several volunteers who searched the area where the remains were found and did not find a body.

Attorney Mark NeJame represented Miller at the hearing. He said that Miller and the records have been available for months, and no request was made by the defense to speak with him or visit his office to review the documents.

NeJame also argued that the volunteers asked themselves not to have their identities revealed because of the intense media scrutiny of the case.

Judge Stan Strickland presided over the hearing at the Orange County courthouse and said he would issue a ruling later.

Casey Anthony is being held on no bond on the Orange County Jail. She is charged with murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. Caylee's remains were found in December 2008 by a meter reader. Anthony, 24, maintains that a nanny by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee.

Texas EquuSearch conducted searches for Caylee for months. Thousands of people from all over volunteered their time to search for the missing little girl.

http://www.wesh.com/news/23052735/detail.html

thanks brandi...I got a phone call at the end and missed if there was a ruling or what........what was the in camera meeting about?  And what happened to BOZO's witness???


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Post by: Northern Rose on April 05, 2010, 11:40:33 AM
After her finger waggling she looks like she is so happy with herself like she hit the lotto and is getting an extra order of hotbean sauce and cheesie puffs.  I am really curious what that was all about.



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Post by: klaasend on April 05, 2010, 11:40:44 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-court-hearing-20100405,0,6990498.story

Casey Anthony attorney blasted by Texas EquuSearch lawyer


By Sarah Lundy, Bianca Prieto and Amy L. Edwards, Orlando Sentinel

11:14 a.m. EDT, April 5, 2010

Casey Anthony's lead attorney came under fire this morning as her defense team tried again to obtain records about volunteer searchers with a group called Texas EquuSearch.

Casey Anthony's attorney Jose Baez complained that Texas EquuSearch has not turned over all of the names of people who searched the area near the Anthony home in east Orange County where Caylee Marie Anthony's remains were ultimately found.

Texas EquuSearch attorney Mark NeJame said Baez hasn't taken time to come to his office to look at the documents and it's incredulous to suggest there's a bombshell hidden in them.

NeJame said Baez's lack of reviewing the records is "either laziness or sloppiness."


Later, Baez proclaimed: "Why is everyone so afraid of uncovering the truth in this case?"

Casey Anthony, 24, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of Caylee. The 2-year-old's remains were found in December 2008 — five months after the toddler was reported missing by her family.

The state is seeking the death penalty.
(snipped)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 11:40:58 AM
http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/23054490/detail.html

Casey in Court

Thanks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 11:41:08 AM
how strange was that.....and the last shot of Mr. Ashton had him shrugging his shoulders  and an I HAVE NOT IDEA look on his face.

Did KC have leg irons on?

She always does, the audio was very clear today so the sound of them was especially delightful to the ear...they will be her transportation companion for life!

I left WFTV & switched over to the Sentinel. Which did you use?

I was watching FOX, the audio was very good and I heard the clanging of the leg irons


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: klaasend on April 05, 2010, 11:41:15 AM
(http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/alternatethumbnails/story/2010-04/53101353-05070101.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 11:42:01 AM
Just before the lawyers went into chambers KC was trying to get the attention of one of her lawyers and said something to them pointing her finger at them.  Anyone catch what she said?



No, my internet service had a brief interruption as they went to sidebar, I came back to Casey fidgeting.   I will say this, the more she animates this contempt & cocky attitude in defending herself the more the jury is going to interpret that towards her guilt more than her projected innocence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 11:42:49 AM
Just before the lawyers went into chambers KC was trying to get the attention of one of her lawyers and said something to them pointing her finger at them.  Anyone catch what she said?



hi NR...I got the impression she was getting ready to get up and join the attorneys and she was told no need............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 11:43:34 AM
After her finger waggling she looks like she is so happy with herself like she hit the lotto and is getting an extra order of hotbean sauce and cheesie puffs.  I am really curious what that was all about.



She just cant help herself & she is going to get herself convicted easily, no doubt in my mind.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 11:45:30 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/
Casey Anthony attorney blasted by Texas EquuSearch lawyer
Updated: 24 minutes ago
 Casey Anthony's lead attorney came under fire this morning as her defense team tried again to obtain records about volunteer searchers with a group called Texas EquuSearch.
Read more...  http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-court-hearing-20100405,0,6990498.story
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 11:45:41 AM
http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/23054490/detail.html

Casey in Court

thanks brandi......I find it very telling that the A's have no family support....from either of the A's side.....the Coxes are sitting next to them.....NEW friends.... no family or long time friends.....very telling IMO

I do suspect that the Cox's are attempting to assist the Anthonys to get out of their mortgage woes, more likely not above board - no one with half a brain or level of morality would befriend these evil people without being of question themselves.... enough said.

Maybe they want to be the ones to list the house when it goes on the market;   Conway was absent today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Curly on April 05, 2010, 11:47:13 AM
WHY did Strickland not rule in court?
I didn't get to see the Nejame/Bozo battle because I'm at work.
Was there any mention of the letters?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 11:47:18 AM
how strange was that.....and the last shot of Mr. Ashton had him shrugging his shoulders  and an I HAVE NOT IDEA look on his face.

Did KC have leg irons on?

She always does, the audio was very clear today so the sound of them was especially delightful to the ear...they will be her transportation companion for life!

I left WFTV & switched over to the Sentinel. Which did you use?

I was watching FOX, the audio was very good and I heard the clanging of the leg irons

Sounds like music........   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 11:47:56 AM
After her finger waggling she looks like she is so happy with herself like she hit the lotto and is getting an extra order of hotbean sauce and cheesie puffs.  I am really curious what that was all about.



She just cant help herself & she is going to get herself convicted easily, no doubt in my mind.

 ::MonkeyGavel::

I so loved NeJame saying Baez is lazy or sloppy. LOL

I say both.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 11:48:17 AM
What about Mallory in all this???  Why has she remained so quiet???  Remember she was at the Ant home when Caylee's remains were found.  IIRC there was a length of time before she answered LE's knock at the door.  I just would love to know what she might have been doing, what she might have to say about what she overheard the Ant family saying, saw them doing, etc.  Have we even read ANYthing from her?  No depo that I can recall.   Why not?? 

And the other weird thing I can remember from that time was after LE was finished with one search warrant, there were pics of Baez leaving the Ant home with bags of stuff.  Would love to know what he, as Casey's attorney, felt was so important that HE needed to remove.  ??? 

hi Wyks.....I don't know about Mallory...other than she has been IMO very smart....she has kept her mouth shut and stayed away from the A's and by doing so has managed to keep out of the eye of the media. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 11:48:23 AM
how strange was that.....and the last shot of Mr. Ashton had him shrugging his shoulders  and an I HAVE NOT IDEA look on his face.

Did KC have leg irons on?

She always does, the audio was very clear today so the sound of them was especially delightful to the ear...they will be her transportation companion for life!

I left WFTV & switched over to the Sentinel. Which did you use?

I was watching FOX, the audio was very good and I heard the clanging of the leg irons

I should have tried FOX.  Maybe that's why Casey didn't do a run & jump.  lol 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 11:49:04 AM
WHY did Strickland not rule in court?
I didn't get to see the Nejame/Bozo battle because I'm at work.
Was there any mention of the letters?
The judge will probably rule before the day is over. I can't quit figure out what part Baez doesn't get about going over the TES records  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Maybe if he got off his big rump and went to NeJame's office that would be a good start.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 11:50:10 AM
After her finger waggling she looks like she is so happy with herself like she hit the lotto and is getting an extra order of hotbean sauce and cheesie puffs.  I am really curious what that was all about.



She just cant help herself & she is going to get herself convicted easily, no doubt in my mind.

 ::MonkeyGavel::

I so loved NeJame saying Baez is lazy or sloppy. LOL

I say both.
Yup, he wants others to do his work, he must be real busy with all his other clients  ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 05, 2010, 11:51:55 AM
Defense files motion today and wants judge to hear it (they need a time management course IMO) yet has not filed anthing about letters.  Do we get letters to read this week?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: klaasend on April 05, 2010, 11:52:10 AM
What's the matter Casey, having problems sleeping?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/CaseyCourt040510.jpg)


You made a deal with the devil and now the devil has gone back on her word?  ::MonkeyNoNo::

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/AnthonysCourt040510.jpg)

What about me? 

(http://www.momlogic.com/caylee_anthony_nanny_sq.jpg)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 11:52:35 AM
WHY did Strickland not rule in court?
I didn't get to see the Nejame/Bozo battle because I'm at work.
Was there any mention of the letters?

Judge Strickland is deciding & thinking or waiting for the right timing to announce his decision;  No letter mention.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 11:53:10 AM
They first went to a sidebar, then went into the judge's chambers, if I followed correctly.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 05, 2010, 11:53:33 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-courtroom-interactive%2C0%2C7877507.htmlpage

Who shows up to Casey's hearings. Interactive picture. Identifies people. Interesting.

Thanks Brandi, this is really neat!   ::MonkeyKiss::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 11:54:59 AM
Cindy was chewing gum, why doesn't the judge tell her to stop? Makes no sense, and it is disrespectful. I can't imagine that the judge would even give this motion another thought, the defense was ridiculous. I'm sure the judge is having a good laugh over Baez's expense and can't wait for Happy Hour  ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 11:57:02 AM
WHY did Strickland not rule in court?
I didn't get to see the Nejame/Bozo battle because I'm at work.
Was there any mention of the letters?
The judge will probably rule before the day is over. I can't quit figure out what part Baez doesn't get about going over the TES records  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Maybe if he got off his big rump and went to NeJame's office that would be a good start.

I used to think he was naturally inept---now I think he's inept and enjoys being obstinate and thinks that is good lawyering, imo.   He really should make a career change. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: AzGrama on April 05, 2010, 11:57:51 AM
Just before the lawyers went into chambers KC was trying to get the attention of one of her lawyers and said something to them pointing her finger at them.  Anyone catch what she said?



hi NR...I got the impression she was getting ready to get up and join the attorneys and she was told no need............

My impression also.  As far as Baez taking the "the body was placed there after KC was in jail" route, he will never be able to explain away the forensics that indicate according to the plant growth coming up through the remains, the body was placed there in the June/July time period.  The forensics will do the talking at trial.  And to use Baez' favorite phrase "Quite frankly", Baez, you are an idiot.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 11:58:21 AM
Did others also notice that Cindy is still chewing gum in complete defiance of court decorum?   The above pictures captivate the contempt the Anthonys always exhibit when they are not getting their way or right before their plotting ways gets foiled...throughout we have witnessed this from each and every one of them...with one exception, that sweet beautiful babygirl that was unfortunately born & killed by her family in infancy, by Casey's hands & her grandparents generational evil passed down.

Justice will be done


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 05, 2010, 11:58:28 AM
Bobo and The Jar on Court TV coming after commercials for interview.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 11:59:46 AM
WHY did Strickland not rule in court?
I didn't get to see the Nejame/Bozo battle because I'm at work.
Was there any mention of the letters?
The judge will probably rule before the day is over. I can't quit figure out what part Baez doesn't get about going over the TES records  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Maybe if he got off his big rump and went to NeJame's office that would be a good start.

I used to think he was naturally inept---now I think he's inept and enjoys being obstinate and thinks that is good lawyering, imo.   He really should make a career change. 
My crystal ball says a career change is in his future.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 12:00:24 PM
Just before the lawyers went into chambers KC was trying to get the attention of one of her lawyers and said something to them pointing her finger at them.  Anyone catch what she said?



hi NR...I got the impression she was getting ready to get up and join the attorneys and she was told no need............

My impression also.  As far as Baez taking the "the body was placed there after KC was in jail" route, he will never be able to explain away the forensics that indicate according to the plant growth coming up through the remains, the body was placed there in the June/July time period.  The forensics will do the talking at trial.  And to use Baez' favorite phrase "Quite frankly", Baez, you are an idiot.

Nor will they be able to explain the evidence obtained in Casey's car in JULY 08 or her actions and/or lack of actions for 31 days NOR her computer searches months prior to Caylee's murder.   Why is it so many outside of us are forgetting the car?!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 12:00:55 PM
Did others also notice that Cindy is still chewing gum in complete defiance of court decorum?   The above pictures captivate the contempt the Anthonys always exhibit when they are not getting their way or right before their plotting ways gets foiled...throughout we have witnessed this from each and every one of them...with one exception, that sweet beautiful babygirl that was unfortunately born & killed by her family in infancy, by Casey's hands & her grandparents generational evil passed down.

Justice will be done
That is why I keep wondering why the judge doesn't say something, if he doesn't no one will. Total disrespect and above the law.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 05, 2010, 12:00:59 PM
CASEY ARRIVES: Raw Video
http://www.wftv.com/video/23054538/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 12:01:08 PM
Cindy was chewing gum, why doesn't the judge tell her to stop? Makes no sense, and it is disrespectful. I can't imagine that the judge would even give this motion another thought, the defense was ridiculous. I'm sure the judge is having a good laugh over Baez's expense and can't wait for Happy Hour  ::monkeywine2::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::       A little vino with lunch hits the spot;  Judge Strickland prolly didn't know CinCin had gum.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 05, 2010, 12:01:15 PM
watching it now...Casey playing the all important microphone monitor....fussing with her hair and her shirt...God she makes me sick! she is looking around for the camera to be on her...a smirk on her face..
why does her hair always look  greasy???

Spending all her money on Cheeze Doodles instead of shampoo...just a thought ::MonkeyTongue::

Morning Monkeys !
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Hi SS!!!!!!!!!!  OMG those bunny slippers!!  LMAO!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 12:01:37 PM
O bare down, Bozo and the Colonel on TruTV Insessions....get a shovel the snit is empire state building high!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 12:02:24 PM
Cindy was chewing gum, why doesn't the judge tell her to stop? Makes no sense, and it is disrespectful. I can't imagine that the judge would even give this motion another thought, the defense was ridiculous. I'm sure the judge is having a good laugh over Baez's expense and can't wait for Happy Hour  ::monkeywine2::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::       A little vino with lunch hits the spot;  Judge Strickland prolly didn't know CinCin had gum.
It was interesting watching the judge's expressions when Baez spoke, it would be great if we could know what was on the judge's mind during that. Or maybe we don't want to know  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 12:02:41 PM
Cindy was chewing gum, why doesn't the judge tell her to stop? Makes no sense, and it is disrespectful. I can't imagine that the judge would even give this motion another thought, the defense was ridiculous. I'm sure the judge is having a good laugh over Baez's expense and can't wait for Happy Hour  ::monkeywine2::

So was George.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 12:03:40 PM
O bare down, Bozo and the Colonel on TruTV Insessions....get a shovel the snit is empire state building high!
Keep us tuned in I would break the tv if I turned that on. Especially if that Jamie Floyd character is on  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 12:04:10 PM
Bozo will not say what JJ and Laura are saying in this interview, he said he's leaving it for the courtroom....more bunk and bull.   This is a huge smoke screen & I will go so far as to say originated between the Anthonys & the defense team with these other characters.

OMG  Bozo "very circumstantial case & they are really stretching it here"   Seriously, this guy is a tool!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 12:04:21 PM
Cindy was chewing gum, why doesn't the judge tell her to stop? Makes no sense, and it is disrespectful. I can't imagine that the judge would even give this motion another thought, the defense was ridiculous. I'm sure the judge is having a good laugh over Baez's expense and can't wait for Happy Hour  ::monkeywine2::

So was George.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::
Figures, I missed him chomping. It also looked like Cindy was chewing her nails  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 12:04:33 PM
WHY did Strickland not rule in court?
I didn't get to see the Nejame/Bozo battle because I'm at work.
Was there any mention of the letters?
The judge will probably rule before the day is over. I can't quit figure out what part Baez doesn't get about going over the TES records  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Maybe if he got off his big rump and went to NeJame's office that would be a good start.

hi nrcg, I was really hoping he would rule at court and tell BOZO to stop wasting the courts time..I was very disappointed that he didn't.......I really am anxious to see Strickland come down HARD on the nonsense of the DUHfence and I haven't seen that yet.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 12:05:31 PM
watching it now...Casey playing the all important microphone monitor....fussing with her hair and her shirt...God she makes me sick! she is looking around for the camera to be on her...a smirk on her face..
why does her hair always look  greasy???

Spending all her money on Cheeze Doodles instead of shampoo...just a thought ::MonkeyTongue::

Morning Monkeys !
(http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/Sea_Searcher/Coffee/ss-coffee-easter-ears3-slippers.gif)

Hi SS!!!!!!!!!!  OMG those bunny slippers!!  LMAO!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::



You noticed them! ;-)

(That's last year's coffee monkey.)

Good to see you, SS!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 12:05:45 PM
Bozo will not say what JJ and Laura are saying in this interview, he said he's leaving it for the courtroom....more bunk and bull.   This is a huge smoke screen & I will go so far as to say originated between the Anthonys & the defense team with these other characters.

OMG  Bozo "very circumstantial case & they are really stretching it here"   Seriously, this guy is a tool!
Maybe if this joker would actually do some work that would be a great start. He just loves to hear himself blabber nonsense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 12:05:55 PM
What's the matter Casey, having problems sleeping?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/CaseyCourt040510.jpg)


You made a deal with the devil and now the devil has gone back on her word?  ::MonkeyNoNo::

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/AnthonysCourt040510.jpg)

What about me? 

(http://www.momlogic.com/caylee_anthony_nanny_sq.jpg)



hi Klaas........AMEN!  what about Caylee!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 12:06:43 PM
O bare down, Bozo and the Colonel on TruTV Insessions....get a shovel the snit is empire state building high!
Keep us tuned in I would break the tv if I turned that on. Especially if that Jamie Floyd character is on  ::MonkeyEek::

I cant stand Jean either...I cannot stand the pandering some of these legal anchors use to get people to talk, especially when they use false sympathy for Casey and/or her family....nauseating beyond my tolerance yet I am compelled to listen because information is knowledge.   Surely, I will be hitting the Mylanta bottle shortly.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 12:07:18 PM
WHY did Strickland not rule in court?
I didn't get to see the Nejame/Bozo battle because I'm at work.
Was there any mention of the letters?
The judge will probably rule before the day is over. I can't quit figure out what part Baez doesn't get about going over the TES records  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Maybe if he got off his big rump and went to NeJame's office that would be a good start.

hi nrcg, I was really hoping he would rule at court and tell BOZO to stop wasting the courts time..I was very disappointed that he didn't.......I really am anxious to see Strickland come down HARD on the nonsense of the DUHfence and I haven't seen that yet.
I agree, this seems like a no brainer, but maybe he just wants to look over things to make it look good.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Babybear on April 05, 2010, 12:08:31 PM
As usual I found Baez unprepared and unorganized in his argument.  I did not get the fireworks which I expected from NeJame.  Baez did get the point across that he wanted carte blanche to rifle through Equusearch's records and IMO he might get it.  The entire thing was lacklustre IMO.  Boring, actually.

Sadly, If Judge Strickland grants Baez' motion, it will have a dampening affect on anyone volunteering for such a search in the future.  Once names are made public, these volunteers who did nothing except with good intentions, will be torn apart on the internet.

Whichever poster called Mason the Colonel was right.  I expected Casey to order extra crispy at any moment.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 05, 2010, 12:08:46 PM
Bobo blathering that the state is stretching to make a case

NeJame is a 3rd party who should not dictate what defense has and has no access to

Laura B came to defense and gave them other searchers private info and that is how defense found Joe J

It is absurd that people who volunteer to search for a missing person have expectations of privacy

What is being hidden and what else is out there, prosecution just don't want defense to know about it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 12:14:23 PM
Cindy was chewing gum, why doesn't the judge tell her to stop? Makes no sense, and it is disrespectful. I can't imagine that the judge would even give this motion another thought, the defense was ridiculous. I'm sure the judge is having a good laugh over Baez's expense and can't wait for Happy Hour  ::monkeywine2::

both were chomping away.......they have no respect for Caylee, they have no respect for themselves, so I guess we can't expect them to have respect for the judicial system they have so far only abused!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 12:21:44 PM
Cindy was chewing gum, why doesn't the judge tell her to stop? Makes no sense, and it is disrespectful. I can't imagine that the judge would even give this motion another thought, the defense was ridiculous. I'm sure the judge is having a good laugh over Baez's expense and can't wait for Happy Hour  ::monkeywine2::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::       A little vino with lunch hits the spot;  Judge Strickland prolly didn't know CinCin had gum.
It was interesting watching the judge's expressions when Baez spoke, it would be great if we could know what was on the judge's mind during that. Or maybe we don't want to know  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I know it--I loved it.      ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 05, 2010, 12:21:56 PM
Mason just said that the in camera with the Judge at the end today had nothing to do with what was heard in court today, was very confidential and may come out later.  I am betting it has to do with Lyon leaving and him stepping in as the DP qualified lawyer on the case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on April 05, 2010, 12:25:51 PM
Mason just stated on Trutv that there was an unidentified hair found on Caylee's body.....I don't remember hearing that before. Anyone else remember any discovery showing that as true?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 05, 2010, 12:25:56 PM
Mason commented on Nejame today

"Given the personality of the little player there for Texas...."



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 12:27:08 PM
Mason just said that the in camera with the Judge at the end today had nothing to do with what was heard in court today, was very confidential and may come out later.  I am betting it has to do with Lyon leaving and him stepping in as the DP qualified lawyer on the case.

Interesting ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 12:27:08 PM
Mason just said that the in camera with the Judge at the end today had nothing to do with what was heard in court today, was very confidential and may come out later.  I am betting it has to do with Lyon leaving and him stepping in as the DP qualified lawyer on the case.

I heard that too NR............

and they are not filing a motion to prevent the letters from being released.

and that Laura Buchanan was a friend of CA's and came to them about searching the area where the remains were discovered.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 12:27:42 PM
BREAKING NEWS!    Bozo just said that he is not filing a motion to seal Casey's letters.   That they will be scrutinized as in everything in the case but they will deal with it, but its not a confession.   Bozo called Casey "an incredibly bright woman" and then went on to say how misjudged she is... :puker: and wants to "clear her name"

Mason called Nejame "little player for TES"   ::MonkeyMad::and a train went by during the Trutv interview and he said "thats the prosecution train and we're gonna stop it."   He thinks use immunity will allow them to hear the JJ tape....ummm NOT FOOL.    The defense according to Mason is going with body placed there after Casey was in jail & wants a jury to weigh that -- yea good luck with that, lets just forget what was found in Casey's car OR the fact that all the items found at the crime scene came from the Anthony home.   OMG he also eluded to (as if I didnt predict this) mishandled evidence by CSI blah blah blah    I had trouble getting back on so that is the short version of what they said, hopefully someone will utube the Insession segments.

PS   Im not worried in the slightest, this defense team are a bunch of buffoons just talking a bunch of smack.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 05, 2010, 12:28:16 PM
Mason said someone else had to be involved to place the body in the woods, does not mean someone else did the killing, but we want a jury to decide that  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 12:29:28 PM
Mason just stated on Trutv that there was an unidentified hair found on Caylee's body.....I don't remember hearing that before. Anyone else remember any discovery showing that as true?

I thought I heard that, but doubted my own ears??????????????????

Jean makes me quite ill....she almost drools over BOZO............she is definitely a defense groupie IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 12:29:55 PM
Mason just said that the in camera with the Judge at the end today had nothing to do with what was heard in court today, was very confidential and may come out later.  I am betting it has to do with Lyon leaving and him stepping in as the DP qualified lawyer on the case.

I heard that too NR............

and they are not filing a motion to prevent the letters from being released.

and that Laura Buchanan was a friend of CA's and came to them about searching the area where the remains were discovered.



He has it twisted she went in there as a plant, IMHO.   But doesnt that just say it all


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 12:30:12 PM
Mason commented on Nejame today

"Given the personality of the little player there for Texas...."



I heard that as well.............what a slimebag


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: akmom on April 05, 2010, 12:30:48 PM
I cannot  believe  I missed it this morning.  Catching up on In Sessions.  I further cannot believe we are still talking about Joseph Jordan and Laura Buchanan.  Seems to me that a few monkeys with a few clicks of their fingers have found enough to make both of them irrelevant.  JJ could be googled quite easily and is shown to have violated TES  guidelines here on this very forum, which to me shows that he is not a good defense witness.  He further refutes what he said to JB and company later when he talks to LE.  JB has to be the WORST attorney ever. 

Cheney Mason is a LIAR.  He states that his opinion on Casey and the case has always been the same and he stated that publicly.  HHHmmm, that is not what I read before.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on April 05, 2010, 12:33:01 PM
Mason just stated on Trutv that there was an unidentified hair found on Caylee's body.....I don't remember hearing that before. Anyone else remember any discovery showing that as true?

I thought I heard that, but doubted my own ears??????????????????

Jean makes me quite ill....she almost drools over BOZO............she is definitely a defense groupie IMO



I should have known better than to watch trutv....I always get mad at the disinfomation they pump out to the public.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 12:34:51 PM
Mason commented on Nejame today

"Given the personality of the little player there for Texas...."



UGH---how low class can you get?    ::MonkeyEek::       Mason's  below-the-belt insult also signal's Mason's realization that he [ Mason ] is on the losing side.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: darla on April 05, 2010, 12:35:36 PM
I sincerely hope that when it comes trial time...they either shave Casey's head or braid it and wrap it so tight she can't touch it. She  drives me nuts smoothing her greasy hair.
Judge Strickland looked like he was not having the best day when he first came in. I think he has a really hard time not laughing at Bozo. When MN would object, the judge would kind of smile and say let him finish. I think he lets Bozo make as big of fool of himself as he can. You know like let's just indulge him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 12:37:19 PM
I cannot  believe  I missed it this morning.  Catching up on In Sessions.  I further cannot believe we are still talking about Joseph Jordan and Laura Buchanan.  Seems to me that a few monkeys with a few clicks of their fingers have found enough to make both of them irrelevant.  JJ could be googled quite easily and is shown to have violated TES  guidelines here on this very forum, which to me shows that he is not a good defense witness.  He further refutes what he said to JB and company later when he talks to LE.  JB has to be the WORST attorney ever. 

Cheney Mason is a LIAR.  He states that his opinion on Casey and the case has always been the same and he stated that publicly.  HHHmmm, that is not what I read before.

NOPE, sure isnt...we hearby consider him IMPEACHED

And I quote:

"You can pretty well predict there's going to be a life sentence, either a plea and get it over with or have a circus trial and then be convicted and get life," Mason said.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: goodnmad on April 05, 2010, 12:37:38 PM
Hello lovely monkeys. Long time no see. I'm gone for a while and Casey hires Perry Mason - err - Santa Claus -- err - Colonel Sanders as a lawyer?  ::MonkeyTongue::

Casey looks like she has a "bump it" in her hair.

Ahhh, when will this ever make it to the jury!!!!??? Impatiently waiting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 12:39:13 PM
Hello lovely monkeys. Long time no see. I'm gone for a while and Casey hires Perry Mason - err - Santa Claus -- err - Colonel Sanders as a lawyer?  ::MonkeyTongue::

Casey looks like she has a "bump it" in her hair.

Ahhh, when will this ever make it to the jury!!!!??? Impatiently waiting.

O goodness that's an insult to even Snookie  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Good to see you Goodnmad


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 12:39:45 PM
As usual I found Baez unprepared and unorganized in his argument.  I did not get the fireworks which I expected from NeJame.  Baez did get the point across that he wanted carte blanche to rifle through Equusearch's records and IMO he might get it.  The entire thing was lacklustre IMO.  Boring, actually.

Sadly, If Judge Strickland grants Baez' motion, it will have a dampening affect on anyone volunteering for such a search in the future.  Once names are made public, these volunteers who did nothing except with good intentions, will be torn apart on the internet.

Whichever poster called Mason the Colonel was right.  I expected Casey to order extra crispy at any moment.
And I'll bet after all the jail food some extra crispy would be great right about now  ::MonkeyWink:: I agree with you, some people would simply not want to volunteer and take the risk of being ripped apart.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 12:41:05 PM
Will Jay, defense attorney is now talking on Insesions.  He is Anthony Lazzaro's attorney.   Discussing the science that will indicate the remains were in that exact spot late June/early July - and I do believe that will carry the day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on April 05, 2010, 12:42:59 PM
I sincerely hope that when it comes trial time...they either shave Casey's head or braid it and wrap it so tight she can't touch it. She  drives me nuts smoothing her greasy hair.
Judge Strickland looked like he was not having the best day when he first came in. I think he has a really hard time not laughing at Bozo. When MN would object, the judge would kind of smile and say let him finish. I think he lets Bozo make as big of fool of himself as he can. You know like let's just indulge him.



You solved the hair problem, now I wish we could do something about her ugly little hands. All I see when she she twists and rubs them together and picks invisable lint and adjusts her clothes is her applying layers of duct tape across her Child's mouth and nose. I would like to cut them off!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 12:43:28 PM
Mason just said that the in camera with the Judge at the end today had nothing to do with what was heard in court today, was very confidential and may come out later.  I am betting it has to do with Lyon leaving and him stepping in as the DP qualified lawyer on the case.
Yes, I bet Lyons is already gone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: akmom on April 05, 2010, 12:43:30 PM
I cannot  believe  I missed it this morning.  Catching up on In Sessions.  I further cannot believe we are still talking about Joseph Jordan and Laura Buchanan.  Seems to me that a few monkeys with a few clicks of their fingers have found enough to make both of them irrelevant.  JJ could be googled quite easily and is shown to have violated TES  guidelines here on this very forum, which to me shows that he is not a good defense witness.  He further refutes what he said to JB and company later when he talks to LE.  JB has to be the WORST attorney ever. 

Cheney Mason is a LIAR.  He states that his opinion on Casey and the case has always been the same and he stated that publicly.  HHHmmm, that is not what I read before.

NOPE, sure isnt...we hearby consider him IMPEACHED

And I quote:

"You can pretty well predict there's going to be a life sentence, either a plea and get it over with or have a circus trial and then be convicted and get life," Mason said.

Thank you for finding that!  I am pretty good at remembering those things but horrible at finding them


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 05, 2010, 12:43:40 PM
From Bobo   :smt078  :smt078  :smt078

"Casey is doing her best to stay strong.  She is an incredibly bright young woman, a wonderful person, and I can not think of anybody who has been more misunderstood than Casey Anthony.  It is a truly sad situation to find yourself innocent behind bars..........."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 12:44:59 PM
Mason just said that the in camera with the Judge at the end today had nothing to do with what was heard in court today, was very confidential and may come out later.  I am betting it has to do with Lyon leaving and him stepping in as the DP qualified lawyer on the case.

I heard that too NR............

and they are not filing a motion to prevent the letters from being released.

and that Laura Buchanan was a friend of CA's and came to them about searching the area where the remains were discovered.


They are not filing a motion to prevent the letters, huh. That is because she had the blessings of the defense, imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: goodnmad on April 05, 2010, 12:46:38 PM
You too Capp!  ::MonkeyCool::

When Snookie is of higher moral fiber ... it is a sad day.

Just thinking "Hopespring Drive" could easily become a trashy new reality show featuring Georgie, Cindy, Joy, George's mistresses, Dom Casey, Zanny the nanny ... oops, I better not give Cindy any ideas.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 12:48:03 PM
I sincerely hope that when it comes trial time...they either shave Casey's head or braid it and wrap it so tight she can't touch it. She  drives me nuts smoothing her greasy hair.
Judge Strickland looked like he was not having the best day when he first came in. I think he has a really hard time not laughing at Bozo. When MN would object, the judge would kind of smile and say let him finish. I think he lets Bozo make as big of fool of himself as he can. You know like let's just indulge him.



You solved the hair problem, now I wish we could do something about her ugly little hands. All I see when she she twists and rubs them together and picks invisable lint and adjusts her clothes is her applying layers of duct tape across her Child's mouth and nose. I would like to cut them off!!

Me too,and shove them down her throat.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 12:51:48 PM
Mason just said that the in camera with the Judge at the end today had nothing to do with what was heard in court today, was very confidential and may come out later.  I am betting it has to do with Lyon leaving and him stepping in as the DP qualified lawyer on the case.

I heard that too NR............

and they are not filing a motion to prevent the letters from being released.

and that Laura Buchanan was a friend of CA's and came to them about searching the area where the remains were discovered.


They are not filing a motion to prevent the letters, huh. That is because she had the blessings of the defense, imo.

I agree ... IMO, all an orchestrated manuever--if there is anything other than "drivel" thus contained within.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 12:52:24 PM
You too Capp!  ::MonkeyCool::

When Snookie is of higher moral fiber ... it is a sad day.

Just thinking "Hopespring Drive" could easily become a trashy new reality show featuring Georgie, Cindy, Joy, George's mistresses, Dom Casey, Zanny the nanny ... oops, I better not give Cindy any ideas.  ::MonkeyDance::

OMG hush...the last thing this born Jersey girl needs to witness is Cindy giving a really bad impersonation of a Jersey wannabe gangsta ho on top of all the rest of the crap we've had to endure for 2 years.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: goodnmad on April 05, 2010, 12:55:08 PM
I sincerely hope that when it comes trial time...they either shave Casey's head or braid it and wrap it so tight she can't touch it. She  drives me nuts smoothing her greasy hair.
Judge Strickland looked like he was not having the best day when he first came in. I think he has a really hard time not laughing at Bozo. When MN would object, the judge would kind of smile and say let him finish. I think he lets Bozo make as big of fool of himself as he can. You know like let's just indulge him.



You solved the hair problem, now I wish we could do something about her ugly little hands. All I see when she she twists and rubs them together and picks invisable lint and adjusts her clothes is her applying layers of duct tape across her Child's mouth and nose. I would like to cut them off!!

Me too,and shove them down her throat.

Smack her with her own hands, line up George, Cindy, Bozo, etc. and smack them, THEN shove them down her throat.

It is taking an eternity for this to play out in court. Just send her to old sparky and get it over with.

We can drink to that.  ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: karenmamo on April 05, 2010, 12:56:18 PM
...and why do both of her attorneys pronounce Mark's last name like Knee Jam?
I know what toe jam is supposed to mean, but really???
Sorry, they are just getting on my nerves.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on April 05, 2010, 12:57:17 PM
Beth Karas just said that the duhfence should be provided the names and contact information for all 4,000 searchers so that they could contact each one and ask if they searched the exact spot where Caylee was found. GMAFB


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 01:01:07 PM
Mason commented on Nejame today

"Given the personality of the little player there for Texas...."



UGH---how low class can you get?    ::MonkeyEek::       Mason's  below-the-belt insult also signal's Mason's realization that he [ Mason ] is on the losing side.
He may be short, but he is a very good lawyer, and there was no purpose what so ever to say such a thing. Just shows low class and disrespect.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 01:02:02 PM
I sincerely hope that when it comes trial time...they either shave Casey's head or braid it and wrap it so tight she can't touch it. She  drives me nuts smoothing her greasy hair.
Judge Strickland looked like he was not having the best day when he first came in. I think he has a really hard time not laughing at Bozo. When MN would object, the judge would kind of smile and say let him finish. I think he lets Bozo make as big of fool of himself as he can. You know like let's just indulge him.
And buy her some clothes that fit proper  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 01:02:52 PM
Beth Karas just said that the duhfence should be provided the names and contact information for all 4,000 searchers so that they could contact each one and ask if they searched the exact spot where Caylee was found. GMAFB

I tell ya what someone should ask her if she were on that list she would appreciate the defense fishing expedition & how she would feel if they went eeny meeny minnee moe we pick Beth Karas as our "suspect" in this murder.   Whatever with her & wingnuts that think like her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 01:03:10 PM
I cannot  believe  I missed it this morning.  Catching up on In Sessions.  I further cannot believe we are still talking about Joseph Jordan and Laura Buchanan.  Seems to me that a few monkeys with a few clicks of their fingers have found enough to make both of them irrelevant.  JJ could be googled quite easily and is shown to have violated TES  guidelines here on this very forum, which to me shows that he is not a good defense witness.  He further refutes what he said to JB and company later when he talks to LE.  JB has to be the WORST attorney ever. 

Cheney Mason is a LIAR.  He states that his opinion on Casey and the case has always been the same and he stated that publicly.  HHHmmm, that is not what I read before.

NOPE, sure isnt...we hearby consider him IMPEACHED

And I quote:

"You can pretty well predict there's going to be a life sentence, either a plea and get it over with or have a circus trial and then be convicted and get life," Mason said.

If confronted with this statement, he will probably counter :  "I made that comment before I was on the Defense team and before I was made privy to crucial inside knowledge & exonerating details."    Heck---he was prolly even lined up months ago to join the Defense!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on April 05, 2010, 01:03:11 PM
Beth Karas just said that the duhfence should be provided the names and contact information for all 4,000 searchers so that they could contact each one and ask if they searched the exact spot where Caylee was found. GMAFB

He has already had all their documents made available to him, but has been too idle to go over and look at them..   too busy with his sound bites on TV/ Geraldo etc.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 01:03:12 PM
Hello lovely monkeys. Long time no see. I'm gone for a while and Casey hires Perry Mason - err - Santa Claus -- err - Colonel Sanders as a lawyer?  ::MonkeyTongue::

Casey looks like she has a "bump it" in her hair.

Ahhh, when will this ever make it to the jury!!!!??? Impatiently waiting.
OMG, that is what that was, either that or somebody clubbed her on the head and she has a bump  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 05, 2010, 01:03:50 PM
From Bobo   :smt078  :smt078  :smt078

"Casey is doing her best to stay strong.  She is an incredibly bright young woman, a wonderful person, and I can not think of anybody who has been more misunderstood than Casey Anthony.  It is a truly sad situation to find yourself innocent behind bars..........."
Hey Bozo what is there to misunderstand about her going out and partying, exercising on a stripper pole and getting tattoos all the while her daughter is missing? I think he may have a hard time convincing a jury that she is misunderstood.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: AzGrama on April 05, 2010, 01:04:47 PM
Beth Karas just said that the duhfence should be provided the names and contact information for all 4,000 searchers so that they could contact each one and ask if they searched the exact spot where Caylee was found. GMAFB

Maybe I am misunderstanding this but I thought they have access to all the records if they choose to go to MN's office and look at them.  They have already been provided with copies of the 32, records which were hand carried to Baez' office.  They just need to do a little grunt work on their own, it doesn't need to be handed to them on a silver platter.  Quite frankly, Baez, you are an idiot.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 01:05:16 PM
From Bobo   :smt078  :smt078  :smt078

"Casey is doing her best to stay strong.  She is an incredibly bright young woman, a wonderful person, and I can not think of anybody who has been more misunderstood than Casey Anthony.  It is a truly sad situation to find yourself innocent behind bars..........."
Misunderstood my azz  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Are the pictures of her partying part of the poor misguided, misunderstood young woman also?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 01:06:44 PM
Beth Karas just said that the duhfence should be provided the names and contact information for all 4,000 searchers so that they could contact each one and ask if they searched the exact spot where Caylee was found. GMAFB
And even if they were given all 4,000 searchers, who is going to be motivated to go through all that?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 01:09:12 PM
...and why do both of her attorneys pronounce Mark's last name like Knee Jam?
I know what toe jam is supposed to mean, but really???
Sorry, they are just getting on my nerves.

It's insulting to Mark and IMO, they are so classless & their case is so weak ---they now resort to personal insults.  Always the mark of a loser.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 01:14:29 PM
I asked this earlier & now its even more important as Im watching a playback on Insessions of a clip.   The large long, grayhaired man with the large attache seen at the end of the hearing shaking hands with Mason  & even shook Ashton's hand - Im watching Mason go to him during the hearing in the back of the court room to say something to him....question of the day:   Who is that man?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 01:17:15 PM
Beth Karas just said that the duhfence should be provided the names and contact information for all 4,000 searchers so that they could contact each one and ask if they searched the exact spot where Caylee was found. GMAFB
And even if they were given all 4,000 searchers, who is going to be motivated to go through all that?

I would have said Lyons law students under her thumb of threat not to give them a decent grade...Id love to know what gives her the right to use her students as mules in an active DP murder case with such heavy consequence upon them if they dont serve her purpose...to me it just seems so wrong to go beyond its educational value.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 05, 2010, 01:18:43 PM
From Bobo   :smt078  :smt078  :smt078

"Casey is doing her best to stay strong.  She is an incredibly bright young woman, a wonderful person, and I can not think of anybody who has been more misunderstood than Casey Anthony.  It is a truly sad situation to find yourself innocent behind bars..........."
Hey Bozo what is there to misunderstand about her going out and partying, exercising on a stripper pole and getting tattoos all the while her daughter is missing? I think he may have a hard time convincing a jury that she is misunderstood.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I find it truly sad and a dictionary definition of lawyer incompetence if you have been sitting behind bars for 2 years and are innocent but that is JMO on Bobo and the band of book pimping retirement making clan of counsel.  He should choose his words more carefully on his effectiveness.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Girlzrock on April 05, 2010, 01:19:26 PM
Hello, everyone.  Does anyone know if there is a link to a video of today's hearing?  I missed it and wouldn't mind watching.  None of my usual "go-to" places seem to have it (just video of KC walking in to the courtroom). 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 01:27:17 PM
I asked this earlier & now its even more important as Im watching a playback on Insessions of a clip.   The large long, grayhaired man with the large attache seen at the end of the hearing shaking hands with Mason  & even shook Ashton's hand - Im watching Mason go to him during the hearing in the back of the court room to say something to him....question of the day:   Who is that man?
Don't know who that is.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 01:27:48 PM
I asked this earlier & now its even more important as Im watching a playback on Insessions of a clip.   The large long, grayhaired man with the large attache seen at the end of the hearing shaking hands with Mason  & even shook Ashton's hand - Im watching Mason go to him during the hearing in the back of the court room to say something to him....question of the day:   Who is that man?

Capp, this guy?

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image196.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 01:29:18 PM
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Casey Anthony: Fight over Texas EquuSearch produces fireworks
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More fireworks this morning in the Casey Anthony case.

A battle over Texas EquuSearch records was the top story on noon newscasts of WFTV-Channel 9, WESH-Channel 2 and WKMG-Channel 6.

“It got extremely heated,” WFTV’s Jeff Deal said. “Attorneys on both sides almost yelled at each other in the middle of the courtroom during this hearing. Casey’s defense was trying to ask for documents related to the search for Caylee’s remains that were done by the group Texas EquuSearch.”

Deal described Casey Anthony as “very stoic” during the hearing this morning. She is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

Mark NeJame, attorney for Texas EquuSearch, lashed out at the Anthony defense team and said the records were available at his office for the defense’s review.

“They should have the time to come to my office and review the 4,000 documents that they’re jumping up and down they haven’t had access to because they haven’t made time to come over,” NeJame said in an oft-repeated clip.

NeJame said he was “incredulous” at the defense team’s suggestion there was “a bombshell” in the documents.

In a noon interview on truTV’s “In Session,” defense attorney Jose Baez dismissed NeJame’s complaints. ”I don’t think that that point is a valid one,” Baez said. “We shouldn’t have to review evidence in front of a … third party who decides to hold press conferences to argue points of the state. I don’t see that as beneficial to the defense in any way.”

Baez complained that the defense can’t photocopy the documents or write from them. He also hinted that more volunteers could be of interest to the defense beyond 32 listed by Texas EquuSearch. 

“What is wrong with full discolsure?” Baez asked.
NeJame has argued that making the volunteers’ names available to the public could open those people to public harassment. NeJame has argued that making the names public could hurt Texas EquuSearch’s efforts to attract volunteers.

Also on “In Session,”  defense attorney Cheney Mason said a private conference with the judge had nothing to do with today’s proceedings. Mason said the discussed top was “an extremely confidential matter” and “may come out later.”

Mason took a swipe at NeJame, saying the contentious hearing was expected “given the personality of the little player there for Texas.”

Cheney added: “We are not going to lightly be relegated to having to rely on the judgments and expertise of Mr. NeJame or anybody else as to what’s relevant or is not. Even the state can’t determine that. They have to give it all to us.”

Mason repeated his contention — which he made long before he joined the defense team — that there is no forensic evidence to link Casey Anthony to her child’s murder.

And what about those 50 letters that Anthony wrote to a fellow inmate at Orange County Jail? Baez told “In Session” that they contain his client’s communications about food and what she’d like to do when released.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 01:29:36 PM
Mason just stated on Trutv that there was an unidentified hair found on Caylee's body.....I don't remember hearing that before. Anyone else remember any discovery showing that as true?
I do not, but I'm assuming that an unidentified hair found on the remains could very well have gotten there while Caylee laid there decomposing. There was debris and filth all around.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on April 05, 2010, 01:31:01 PM
Beth Karas just said that the duhfence should be provided the names and contact information for all 4,000 searchers so that they could contact each one and ask if they searched the exact spot where Caylee was found. GMAFB

As sickening as it is I wonder if this is a win win strategy for the defense? If they are denied access not only could it be used after to demand a retrial but it could also infer to a jury that there must be reasonable doubt because they weren't given total access. Added to this is the fact that if they are allowed to go through all 4000 searchers they could use the opportunity to point fingers a awhole new slew of people and you know there is going to be a least one or two more nut jobs among them....

I feel JS will turn over the documents  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 01:31:27 PM
CASEY ARRIVES: Raw Video
http://www.wftv.com/video/23054538/index.html

Bumping for Girlzrock


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 01:32:49 PM
Beth Karas just said that the duhfence should be provided the names and contact information for all 4,000 searchers so that they could contact each one and ask if they searched the exact spot where Caylee was found. GMAFB

As sickening as it is I wonder if this is a win win strategy for the defense? If they are denied access not only could it be used after to demand a retrial but it could also infer to a jury that there must be reasonable doubt because they weren't given total access. Added to this is the fact that if they are allowed to go through all 4000 searchers they could use the opportunity to point fingers a awhole new slew of people and you know there is going to be a least one or two more nut jobs among them....

I feel JS will turn over the documents  ::MonkeyNoNo::
If this goes to trial, I'm afraid all this info with the searchers will cause reasonable doubt, imo this is the best the defense has to cause confusion with the jury.


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Post by: tupelohoney on April 05, 2010, 01:33:17 PM
Mason just stated on Trutv that there was an unidentified hair found on Caylee's body.....I don't remember hearing that before. Anyone else remember any discovery showing that as true?
I do not, but I'm assuming that an unidentified hair found on the remains could very well have gotten there while Caylee laid there decomposing. There was debris and filth all around.
Exactly Rose....that unidentified hair could have been at the site before Caylee and just ended up with her. Where was this hair found...on what piece of scattered remains?  Could it be from one of the many sex partners Casey had? Has anyone tested hair from Dom Casey?  Give me a break on the ONE unidentified hair!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on April 05, 2010, 01:38:57 PM
Is it just me or does it look like KC is wearing a hairpiece of some sort? ::MonkeyHaHa:: It looks at least 6 inches longer than the last time we saw her and that bump on the back looks suspicious ::rhino::


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Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 05, 2010, 01:43:39 PM
From Bobo   :smt078  :smt078  :smt078

"Casey is doing her best to stay strong.  She is an incredibly bright young woman, a wonderful person, and I can not think of anybody who has been more misunderstood than Casey Anthony.  It is a truly sad situation to find yourself innocent behind bars..........."
Hey Bozo what is there to misunderstand about her going out and partying, exercising on a stripper pole and getting tattoos all the while her daughter is missing? I think he may have a hard time convincing a jury that she is misunderstood.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I find it truly sad and a dictionary definition of lawyer incompetence if you have been sitting behind bars for 2 years and are innocent but that is JMO on Bobo and the band of book pimping retirement making clan of counsel.  He should choose his words more carefully on his effectiveness.
I couldn't agree more esp with the 2 years behind bars part.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 01:45:04 PM
Is it just me or does it look like KC is wearing a hairpiece of some sort? ::MonkeyHaHa:: It looks at least 6 inches longer than the last time we saw her and that bump on the back looks suspicious ::rhino::

I think her hair has grown normally in the 18 monhs she has been in jail, personally.

Last time we saw her, she had it pulled up:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/52823709.jpg)

But that bump in it, well, I think it may be teased to add height.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image165.png)


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Post by: Western Observr on April 05, 2010, 01:49:09 PM
Mason just stated on Trutv that there was an unidentified hair found on Caylee's body.....I don't remember hearing that before. Anyone else remember any discovery showing that as true?
I do not, but I'm assuming that an unidentified hair found on the remains could very well have gotten there while Caylee laid there decomposing. There was debris and filth all around.
Exactly Rose....that

 unidentified hair could have been at the site before Caylee and just ended up with her. Where was this hair found...on what piece of scattered remains?  Could it be from one of the many sex partners Casey had? Has anyone tested hair from Dom Casey?  Give me a break on the ONE unidentified hair!

That hair was found under the Disney bag and the Gatorade bottle, but this whole area was a dump site, so it could have been anyone's.


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Post by: Western Observr on April 05, 2010, 01:50:41 PM
Is it just me or does it look like KC is wearing a hairpiece of some sort? ::MonkeyHaHa:: It looks at least 6 inches longer than the last time we saw her and that bump on the back looks suspicious ::rhino::

I think her hair has grown normally in the 18 monhs she has been in jail, personally.

Last time we saw her, she had it pulled up:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/52823709.jpg)

But that bump in it, well, I think it may be teased to add height.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image165.png)

I've never thought she was pretty, but she looks SO plain and frumpy now- do you suppose they are trying to portray her as the opposite of a party-girl ? It hasn't worked, she just looks like a troll!   


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Post by: Miki Monkey on April 05, 2010, 01:52:00 PM
Is it just me or does it look like KC is wearing a hairpiece of some sort? ::MonkeyHaHa:: It looks at least 6 inches longer than the last time we saw her and that bump on the back looks suspicious ::rhino::

I think her hair has grown normally in the 18 monhs she has been in jail, personally.

Last time we saw her, she had it pulled up:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/52823709.jpg)

But that bump in it, well, I think it may be teased to add height.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image165.png)


Hmm, must have been the time before that...well the last time I saw it down then  ::MonkeyWink:: my hair doesn't grow that fast, so maybe someone did smack her upside the head to get that bump... ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: N2WISHN on April 05, 2010, 01:52:30 PM
Mason just stated on Trutv that there was an unidentified hair found on Caylee's body.....I don't remember hearing that before. Anyone else remember any discovery showing that as true?
I do not, but I'm assuming that an unidentified hair found on the remains could very well have gotten there while Caylee laid there decomposing. There was debris and filth all around.


You know that and I know that, and Mason said on her body. More than a little stretch of the truth as I see it.
Exactly Rose....that

 unidentified hair could have been at the site before Caylee and just ended up with her. Where was this hair found...on what piece of scattered remains?  Could it be from one of the many sex partners Casey had? Has anyone tested hair from Dom Casey?  Give me a break on the ONE unidentified hair!

That hair was found under the Disney bag and the Gatorade bottle, but this whole area was a dump site, so it could have been anyone's.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on April 05, 2010, 01:53:37 PM
Mason just stated on Trutv that there was an unidentified hair found on Caylee's body.....I don't remember hearing that before. Anyone else remember any discovery showing that as true?
I do not, but I'm assuming that an unidentified hair found on the remains could very well have gotten there while Caylee laid there decomposing. There was debris and filth all around.


You know that and I know that, and Mason said on her body. More than a little stretch of the truth as I see it.
Exactly Rose....that

 unidentified hair could have been at the site before Caylee and just ended up with her. Where was this hair found...on what piece of scattered remains?  Could it be from one of the many sex partners Casey had? Has anyone tested hair from Dom Casey?  Give me a break on the ONE unidentified hair!

That hair was found under the Disney bag and the Gatorade bottle, but this whole area was a dump site, so it could have been anyone's.


oops, sorry I got in the quote box with that one


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 01:53:48 PM
Not only are they trying to make her look sweet and innocent, Mason must have had a conversation with her and how to behave in the courtroom, and look serious, no laughing and being a complete fool. Her demeanor was different today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 02:00:28 PM
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I will try to find it, but there is dna that is not consistent with an fbi agent. There was another dna that was consistent with an fbi agent. I wonder if this hair and dna are one in the same.
No, you are incorrect about this. Baez et al. said it was not from any FBI agent, but they were wrong. There was only a tiny fragment of DNA found on the tape and it was consistent with one of the FBI agents as well as probably 20% of the rest of the world because it was such a tiny fragment.

The Q107 collection paper on which the unknown hair was found was placed under the World of Disney bag and the Gatorade bottle with the syringe in it, so most likely fell off of one of those items.   (read this just now on WS, this poster is a lawyer in Arizona) One other thing, am I confused, was the defense suppose to have a witness there today, Joseph Jordan?


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Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 02:02:01 PM
I asked this earlier & now its even more important as Im watching a playback on Insessions of a clip.   The large long, grayhaired man with the large attache seen at the end of the hearing shaking hands with Mason  & even shook Ashton's hand - Im watching Mason go to him during the hearing in the back of the court room to say something to him....question of the day:   Who is that man?

Capp, this guy?

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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 02:04:33 PM
That man almost looks like he could be Mason's brother.


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Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 02:06:02 PM
That man almost looks like he could be Mason's brother.

He does, no rose.

Capp, sorry I have no idea who he is.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 02:09:58 PM
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I will try to find it, but there is dna that is not consistent with an fbi agent. There was another dna that was consistent with an fbi agent. I wonder if this hair and dna are one in the same.
That is not true!

Both the fragment and hair were attributed to FBI and a lab tech; they were both accounted for! There is no "mystery" DNA anything and this nonsense should be put to rest once and for all. (another post from WS, hope this helps, because I don't remember this)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 05, 2010, 02:13:52 PM
Beth Karas just said that the duhfence should be provided the names and contact information for all 4,000 searchers so that they could contact each one and ask if they searched the exact spot where Caylee was found. GMAFB

I tell ya what someone should ask her if she were on that list she would appreciate the defense fishing expedition & how she would feel if they went eeny meeny minnee moe we pick Beth Karas as our "suspect" in this murder.   Whatever with her & wingnuts that think like her.

It'll take the defense at least 5 years to find and interview all those people. :roll:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 02:16:17 PM
Beth Karas just said that the duhfence should be provided the names and contact information for all 4,000 searchers so that they could contact each one and ask if they searched the exact spot where Caylee was found. GMAFB

I tell ya what someone should ask her if she were on that list she would appreciate the defense fishing expedition & how she would feel if they went eeny meeny minnee moe we pick Beth Karas as our "suspect" in this murder.   Whatever with her & wingnuts that think like her.

It'll take the defense at least 5 years to find and interview all those people. :roll:

At this rate Casey may die of old age before she gets a trial.   ::MonkeyTongue::


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That is not true!

Both the fragment and hair were attributed to FBI and a lab tech; they were both accounted for! There is no "mystery" DNA anything and this nonsense should be put to rest once and for all. (another post from WS, hope this helps, because I don't remember this)

Just in line with what Bozo, Lyons & Mason want to do, blame others that had to process the scene for soddy work or tainted evidence - whatever with these conspiracy theories & smoke screens, the most basic of facts will end up with a conviction in this case as sure as I will be still breathing to see it so rendered.


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Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 02:17:59 PM
That man almost looks like he could be Mason's brother.

He does, no rose.

Capp, sorry I have no idea who he is.

Yes, he does.   Im just curious who he is because right in the middle of the proceedings Mason went to speak to him.   I noticed him at the end during the hearing but on a playback of the hearing on Insessions I noticed Mason going to the back of the courtroom to speak to him.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 02:21:18 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/tempers-flare-at-casey-anthony.html
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Tempers flare at Casey Anthony hearing
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Tempers flared Monday morning as Casey Anthony headed back to the Orange County Courthouse. Her lawyers accused the state of withholding crucial evidence in the murder case.

Defense attorney Jose Baez says the state failed to hand over a letter from a volunteer searcher who told detectives that he searched the crime scene months before the body of Caylee Anthony was discovered and found nothing.

"Why are they so afraid to tell us the truth and get to the bottom of this?" Baez said outside the courtroom.

Baez said the letter furthers defense theory that Caylee's remains were placed at the crime scene after Casey was already in jail.

"I think that's a serious discovery violation," Baez said of the state not immediately providing the letter to the defense.

Prosecutor Linda Drane Burdick stood up in court and said that Baez "is just plain wrong" to accuse them of breaking disclosure rules.  It was also  pointed out that the alleged witness has never been questioned under oath.
Judge Stan Strickland said he'll rule Monday afternoon on the defense motion to gain broader access to Texas Equusearch records.

Defense won't fight release of jail letters

Jose Baez said Monday that the defense will not object to the public release of jailhouse letters Casey wrote to another inmate. 

"There's no admissions," he said.

The 250-plus pages of letters could become public record as soon as this week.


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Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 02:22:51 PM
That man almost looks like he could be Mason's brother.

He does, no rose.

Capp, sorry I have no idea who he is.

Yes, he does.   Im just curious who he is because right in the middle of the proceedings Mason went to speak to him.   I noticed him at the end during the hearing but on a playback of the hearing on Insessions I noticed Mason going to the back of the courtroom to speak to him.

I added an inset of Mason. Amazing how similar they look.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image197.png)


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Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 02:23:01 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/news/23057199/detail.html
Judge Withholds Ruling In Anthony Case
Defense Says Records Will Prove Mother's Innocence In Murder Charges

POSTED: Monday, April 5, 2010
UPDATED: 1:37 pm EDT April 5,2010

ORLANDO, Fla. -- An Orlando judge withheld ruling on a motion Monday on whether records should be released in the case against Casey Anthony, who is accused of killing her daughter.

Those records, according to Anthony's defense team, will prove the woman's innocence.

Anthony appeared in the courtroom Monday morning for the hearing. She remains in the Orange County jail held without bond.

Anthony's defense team said it believes there are records that prove the body of Anthony's daughter, Caylee, was not in the swampy where she was later found until after Anthony was arrested.

The records request contact information from nearly 4,000 volunteers who worked with Texas EquuSearch to help search for Caylee's body.

Caylee was last seen in June of 2008, but she was not reported missing until a month later. The toddler's body was found in a wooded area near the Anthony home on Dec. 11, 2008.


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Post by: N2WISHN on April 05, 2010, 02:26:10 PM
Beth Karas just said that the duhfence should be provided the names and contact information for all 4,000 searchers so that they could contact each one and ask if they searched the exact spot where Caylee was found. GMAFB

I tell ya what someone should ask her if she were on that list she would appreciate the defense fishing expedition & how she would feel if they went eeny meeny minnee moe we pick Beth Karas as our "suspect" in this murder.   Whatever with her & wingnuts that think like her.

It'll take the defense at least 5 years to find and interview all those people. :roll:

At this rate Casey may die of old age before she gets a trial.   ::MonkeyTongue::


With her horde of lawyers shouting "innocent" while she rots to death in jail.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 02:48:57 PM
Mr. Mason said "If we can prove with evidence at least a reasonable doubt that somebody else had to put that body there when she could not have, then logic 101 controls. That means that somebody else was involved. Doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing..."  ::MonkeyEek:: That is a bombshell and it appears that somebody, who I believe will be George is going down for putting Caylee's body where she was found. Interesting the wording, doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on April 05, 2010, 02:52:17 PM
RAW VIDEO: Casey Anthony In Court For Records' Hearing Pt.1


http://www.wftv.com/video/23056801/index.html


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Post by: N2WISHN on April 05, 2010, 02:53:42 PM
RAW VIDEO: Casey Anthony In Court For Records' Hearing Pt.2


http://www.wftv.com/video/23057236/index.html


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Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 02:57:14 PM
Mr. Mason said "If we can prove with evidence at least a reasonable doubt that somebody else had to put that body there when she could not have, then logic 101 controls. That means that somebody else was involved. Doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing..."  ::MonkeyEek:: That is a bombshell and it appears that somebody, who I believe will be George is going down for putting Caylee's body where she was found. Interesting the wording, doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing  ::MonkeyShocked::

Helloooo Casey defense team, what are you saying here, that you KNOW Casey killed Caylee but she had help covering it up...well duh we already know that!   Last I looked that does not exonerate your client from murder, get real!

Who cares if it implicates her family as accessories after the fact, I would welcome it as that is true justice for Caylee, so knock yourself out silly Clown, Colonel & Beast.   


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 02:57:37 PM
I just saw this comment  ::MonkeyEek::
During that last close-up of Cindy and George - was George wearing a hospital ID bracelet?  ::MonkeyEek:: Did anyone notice that, because I sure didn't.


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Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 03:01:21 PM
I just saw this comment  ::MonkeyEek::
During that last close-up of Cindy and George - was George wearing a hospital ID bracelet?  ::MonkeyEek:: Did anyone notice that, because I sure didn't.

Id have to see a screencap but it might be one of those rubber bracelets they made in memory of, in other words more blood money.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 03:10:47 PM
I just saw this comment  ::MonkeyEek::
During that last close-up of Cindy and George - was George wearing a hospital ID bracelet?  ::MonkeyEek:: Did anyone notice that, because I sure didn't.

Id have to see a screencap but it might be one of those rubber bracelets they made in memory of, in other words more blood money.
Could very well be.


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Post by: akmom on April 05, 2010, 03:15:23 PM
Mr. Mason said "If we can prove with evidence at least a reasonable doubt that somebody else had to put that body there when she could not have, then logic 101 controls. That means that somebody else was involved. Doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing..."  ::MonkeyEek:: That is a bombshell and it appears that somebody, who I believe will be George is going down for putting Caylee's body where she was found. Interesting the wording, doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing  ::MonkeyShocked::

WOW, good catch no rose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  And the bus tour begins with George thrown under


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on April 05, 2010, 03:17:22 PM
I thought all along TES and the State have said that they could have access to the rest of the records..they just needed to get down there to Mark's office and go through them at the office..just as the State did.  So what is the big deal with the defense..are they saying they want all the TES worksheets from the searches for Caylee faxed and delivered to them?  That is stupid and a waste of everyone's time and money.  They simply send someone over..they spend two days going through and taking notes..figuring which pages they want and need..which one's they don't..and request copies of those.  It should not be up to the State to do their work for them.

I feel they do not have a right to copies of all the sheets..just ones they request because most of the TES volunteers did not search in that area.  Most of the searchers would not want that public scrutiny, nor should they be put through that all because Baez is a lazy arse dingbat .


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Post by: Gypsy DD on April 05, 2010, 03:20:34 PM
Mr. Mason said "If we can prove with evidence at least a reasonable doubt that somebody else had to put that body there when she could not have, then logic 101 controls. That means that somebody else was involved. Doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing..."  ::MonkeyEek:: That is a bombshell and it appears that somebody, who I believe will be George is going down for putting Caylee's body where she was found. Interesting the wording, doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing  ::MonkeyShocked::

NRCG..that is wonderful logic on your part!  Now Mason hear this...your client is being tried for the murder of her child.....and you don't seem to have a defense for that one.

Yes the wheels of the bus go round and round....and GA nad CA  are going down, down.


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Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 03:22:22 PM
Mr. Mason said "If we can prove with evidence at least a reasonable doubt that somebody else had to put that body there when she could not have, then logic 101 controls. That means that somebody else was involved. Doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing..."  ::MonkeyEek:: That is a bombshell and it appears that somebody, who I believe will be George is going down for putting Caylee's body where she was found. Interesting the wording, doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing  ::MonkeyShocked::

thanks nrcg............I heard that and thought what a statement to make..........between him and BOZO they will certainly get her the DP ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: loca on April 05, 2010, 03:23:25 PM
RAW VIDEO: Casey Anthony In Court For Records' Hearing Pt.1


http://www.wftv.com/video/23056801/index.html

lol they need to handcuff her hands to the back of her chair so she cant play with them. Notice how she keeps playing with her hair! and! same blouse for petes sake why dont they take her clothes. I am thinking she is hating the clothes she goes to court in. since she was so fashion concious.
lyons isnt there  and I thought I seen lee sitting with the anthonys???
I am thinking the reason that producer is there is to get details first hand for the movie they plan on doing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 03:23:32 PM
I just saw this comment  ::MonkeyEek::
During that last close-up of Cindy and George - was George wearing a hospital ID bracelet?  ::MonkeyEek:: Did anyone notice that, because I sure didn't.

I didn't notice................seeme and brandi usually take a lot of photos, perhaps they will have one


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: loca on April 05, 2010, 03:26:07 PM
Mr. Mason said "If we can prove with evidence at least a reasonable doubt that somebody else had to put that body there when she could not have, then logic 101 controls. That means that somebody else was involved. Doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing..."  ::MonkeyEek:: That is a bombshell and it appears that somebody, who I believe will be George is going down for putting Caylee's body where she was found. Interesting the wording, doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing  ::MonkeyShocked::


wohooo sunny I think you mayright there! inept baez always slinging mud at others.

thanks nrcg............I heard that and thought what a statement to make..........between him and BOZO they will certainly get her the DP ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: loca on April 05, 2010, 03:30:22 PM
I thought all along TES and the State have said that they could have access to the rest of the records..they just needed to get down there to Mark's office and go through them at the office..just as the State did.  So what is the big deal with the defense..are they saying they want all the TES worksheets from the searches for Caylee faxed and delivered to them?  That is stupid and a waste of everyone's time and money.  They simply send someone over..they spend two days going through and taking notes..figuring which pages they want and need..which one's they don't..and request copies of those.  It should not be up to the State to do their work for them.

I feel they do not have a right to copies of all the sheets..just ones they request because most of the TES volunteers did not search in that area.  Most of the searchers would not want that public scrutiny, nor should they be put through that all because Baez is a lazy arse dingbat .


everytime I see baez my blood boils like a volcano.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 03:31:05 PM
Mr. Mason said "If we can prove with evidence at least a reasonable doubt that somebody else had to put that body there when she could not have, then logic 101 controls. That means that somebody else was involved. Doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing..."  ::MonkeyEek:: That is a bombshell and it appears that somebody, who I believe will be George is going down for putting Caylee's body where she was found. Interesting the wording, doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing  ::MonkeyShocked::

WOW, good catch no rose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  And the bus tour begins with George thrown under
I thought that this was a bombshell, he was certainly not saying that Casey didn't kill Caylee  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: loca on April 05, 2010, 03:32:19 PM
I thought all along TES and the State have said that they could have access to the rest of the records..they just needed to get down there to Mark's office and go through them at the office..just as the State did.  So what is the big deal with the defense..are they saying they want all the TES worksheets from the searches for Caylee faxed and delivered to them?  That is stupid and a waste of everyone's time and money.  They simply send someone over..they spend two days going through and taking notes..figuring which pages they want and need..which one's they don't..and request copies of those.  It should not be up to the State to do their work for them.

I feel they do not have a right to copies of all the sheets..just ones they request because most of the TES volunteers did not search in that area.  Most of the searchers would not want that public scrutiny, nor should they be put through that all because Baez is a lazy arse dingbat .


everytime I see baez my blood boils like a volcano.

did anyone notice how casey looks at baez

grrrrr ans there she goes playingwith her clothes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 03:33:47 PM
I thought all along TES and the State have said that they could have access to the rest of the records..they just needed to get down there to Mark's office and go through them at the office..just as the State did.  So what is the big deal with the defense..are they saying they want all the TES worksheets from the searches for Caylee faxed and delivered to them?  That is stupid and a waste of everyone's time and money.  They simply send someone over..they spend two days going through and taking notes..figuring which pages they want and need..which one's they don't..and request copies of those.  It should not be up to the State to do their work for them.

I feel they do not have a right to copies of all the sheets..just ones they request because most of the TES volunteers did not search in that area.  Most of the searchers would not want that public scrutiny, nor should they be put through that all because Baez is a lazy arse dingbat .


everytime I see baez my blood boils like a volcano.

Just try not to erupt there loco lava...but if you do make sure you aim very precise...wink wink


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 05, 2010, 03:34:01 PM
Mr. Mason said "If we can prove with evidence at least a reasonable doubt that somebody else had to put that body there when she could not have, then logic 101 controls. That means that somebody else was involved. Doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing..."  ::MonkeyEek:: That is a bombshell and it appears that somebody, who I believe will be George is going down for putting Caylee's body where she was found. Interesting the wording, doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing  ::MonkeyShocked::

WOW, good catch no rose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  And the bus tour begins with George thrown under
I thought that this was a bombshell, he was certainly not saying that Casey didn't kill Caylee  ::MonkeyShocked::

exactly Rosie...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 03:36:40 PM
Mr. Mason said "If we can prove with evidence at least a reasonable doubt that somebody else had to put that body there when she could not have, then logic 101 controls. That means that somebody else was involved. Doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing..."  ::MonkeyEek:: That is a bombshell and it appears that somebody, who I believe will be George is going down for putting Caylee's body where she was found. Interesting the wording, doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing  ::MonkeyShocked::

WOW, good catch no rose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  And the bus tour begins with George thrown under
I thought that this was a bombshell, he was certainly not saying that Casey didn't kill Caylee  ::MonkeyShocked::

exactly Rosie...

I agree but in seeing that the defense is looking at who they are going to make her accessories after the fact it doesnt make any sense how they think this is going to exonerate her from being guilty of murder.   They are saying by this statement that their client is guilty but she had help afterwards....morons!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: loca on April 05, 2010, 03:50:19 PM
I thought all along TES and the State have said that they could have access to the rest of the records..they just needed to get down there to Mark's office and go through them at the office..just as the State did.  So what is the big deal with the defense..are they saying they want all the TES worksheets from the searches for Caylee faxed and delivered to them?  That is stupid and a waste of everyone's time and money.  They simply send someone over..they spend two days going through and taking notes..figuring which pages they want and need..which one's they don't..and request copies of those.  It should not be up to the State to do their work for them.

I feel they do not have a right to copies of all the sheets..just ones they request because most of the TES volunteers did not search in that area.  Most of the searchers would not want that public scrutiny, nor should they be put through that all because Baez is a lazy arse dingbat .


everytime I see baez my blood boils like a volcano.

Just try not to erupt there loco lava...but if you do make sure you aim very precise...wink wink

lol lol so do ya think the judge will rule for or against the defense???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 03:55:27 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/5/lawyers_seek_volunteer_information_in_casey_case.html
 Casey's Letters Will Be Released
Monday, April 05, 2010 2:53:43 PM
Reported by Jacqueline Fell and Mark Jenkins

ORLANDO -- The hearing has concluded, but lawyers for Casey Anthony were in court Monday to get more records from Texas EquuSearch.

Anthony's lawyers wanted Judge Stan Strickland to grant them access to the names of every volunteer and all documents the group has relating to the search of Caylee Anthony.

Mark NeJame, the lawyer for Texas EquuSearch, told Strickland Anthony's lawyers have never bothered to depose the group's founder Tim Miller and is baffled that Anthony's lawyers said Miller isn't available.

He added the documents they want to see are at his office.

Anthony’s lawyer Jose Baez began the hearing by saying the volunteer group has allowed access to other lawyers and the media.

He wants to talk to everyone who may have searched the area where Caylee's remains were found.
The group did search the area, but did not go to the exact spot.

The group said flooding at the time kept the volunteers from searching that area.

Meanwhile, Anthony's alleged pen pal letters will soon be made public.

An FDLE investigation reveals Anthony wrote dozens of letters to another inmate in the Orange County Jail.

The judge allowed the defense 15 days to review the letters.

Anthony's defense says they have nothing to hide.

 "We're not concerned with anything in there,” Baez said. “There's no admissions. If we move to keep them private, you guys are going to speculate all over the place as to what's in there. You're going to find if you look at them in the context there of a person who’s locked up 23 hours a day."

There's no word on when the letters will be released.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 04:03:37 PM
I thought all along TES and the State have said that they could have access to the rest of the records..they just needed to get down there to Mark's office and go through them at the office..just as the State did.  So what is the big deal with the defense..are they saying they want all the TES worksheets from the searches for Caylee faxed and delivered to them?  That is stupid and a waste of everyone's time and money.  They simply send someone over..they spend two days going through and taking notes..figuring which pages they want and need..which one's they don't..and request copies of those.  It should not be up to the State to do their work for them.

I feel they do not have a right to copies of all the sheets..just ones they request because most of the TES volunteers did not search in that area.  Most of the searchers would not want that public scrutiny, nor should they be put through that all because Baez is a lazy arse dingbat .


everytime I see baez my blood boils like a volcano.

Just try not to erupt there loco lava...but if you do make sure you aim very precise...wink wink

lol lol so do ya think the judge will rule for or against the defense???

Against...MOTION DENIED.    He will stick to his original ruling on the actual 32 official TES searchers that were in the area & tell the defense that they need to do their own legwork regarding anything further. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 04:05:19 PM
I forgot to add that the above post of mine is my prediction but its not an absolute.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sea Searcher on April 05, 2010, 04:08:02 PM
WOW why does she keep on avoiding her parents??? is it because she can't look at them because she knows she killed caylee,so she don't look at them out of guilt..or does she really hate them that much..i just don't understand??

I'd lean more toward the hate answer..mommy and daddy have been bailing her out for her whole life and now they can do nothing...in all the info for where the lawyers money was coming from, I don't recall anything about the A's helping out with any of the financing...coupled together with them taking some of her spotlight away and all the moneys they received for photo's, interviews and the like..I would think KC's hate meter is way up there.

"what about me...all they want to know about is Caylee"   Damn right !

JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on April 05, 2010, 04:12:10 PM
I forgot to add that the above post of mine is my prediction but its not an absolute.

I think that NeJamie is willing to let them have a look see at his office or in chambers...Just like LDB did.  I think the judge would go for that..but I don't think he is going to go for all 4000 copied and delivered to them.

I think NeJamie made the point today, and very well I might add, that he has bent over backwards to accommodate the defense...but this is where he draws the line.  I truly hope that Judge Stan remembers the rights of the searchers to privacy.

Also..did it seem to anyone else that Baez was saying JJ was a no show today?  Or was he referring to something else?  Doesn't matter really because JJ can't have it both ways and neither can Laura B.  JJ keeps changing his story so he doesn't seem like a reliable witness for the defense at this point.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 04:12:15 PM
WOW why does she keep on avoiding her parents??? is it because she can't look at them because she knows she killed caylee,so she don't look at them out of guilt..or does she really hate them that much..i just don't understand??

I'd lean more toward the hate answer..mommy and daddy have been bailing her out for her whole life and now they can do nothing...in all the info for where the lawyers money was coming from, I don't recall anything about the A's helping out with any of the financing...coupled together with them taking some of her spotlight away and all the moneys they received for photo's, interviews and the like..I would think KC's hate meter is way up there.

"what about me...all they want to know about is Caylee"   Damn right !

JMO

Straight up!   Good to see you SS and others that I havent seen in a bit...I miss quite a few, ((edit))


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 05, 2010, 04:12:21 PM
The only thing that will tell the story of how long Caylee's body was in the area is that of bugs and plants...nothing more, nothing less.  ::MonkeyHang::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 04:15:41 PM
I forgot to add that the above post of mine is my prediction but its not an absolute.

I think that NeJamie is willing to let them have a look see at his office or in chambers...Just like LDB did.  I think the judge would go for that..but I don't think he is going to go for all 4000 copied and delivered to them.

I think NeJamie made the point today, and very well I might add, that he has bent over backwards to accommodate the defense...but this is where he draws the line.  I truly hope that Judge Stan remembers the rights of the searchers to privacy.

Also..did it seem to anyone else that Baez was saying JJ was a no show today?  Or was he referring to something else?  Doesn't matter really because JJ can't have it both ways and neither can Laura B.  JJ keeps changing his story so he doesn't seem like a reliable witness for the defense at this point.

Well, Ive been wondering who the mystery "witness" is that never showed up...then Bozo gave excuses that he (and he said he as in male) may have went to the wrong court room (bunk and bull).   I hate to assume wildly but it could very well be this Dan dude.   I dont know calling JJ could be a double edged sword....PS I do hope the prosecution regularly reads SM & Im praying they have the full picture of some of these self-asserted characters.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 04:17:16 PM
The only thing that will tell the story of how long Caylee's body was in the area is that of bugs and plants...nothing more, nothing less.  ::MonkeyHang::

I totally agree that this will end all smoke & mirrors the Anthony camp try to create - that and Casey's car & her actions/inactions leading up to June 15th and especially during 6/15-7/15 08'


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on April 05, 2010, 04:17:27 PM
The only thing that will tell the story of how long Caylee's body was in the area is that of bugs and plants...nothing more, nothing less.  ::MonkeyHang::

I agree..people may be unreliable witnesses...the bugs and plants have no dog in this fight..the results can only show us the truth.  Any reasonable juror will see that too.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Mtnmom on April 05, 2010, 04:18:49 PM
Thanks for the links.

well here it is plain as day, JBs defense, someone else placed the body there. Even tho it looks like frivilous motions filed by Baez each time in court he uses the media to taint the jury pool because everyones following this case and who cares if theyve already went over this before, cause he gets another chance to reiterate his theory the body was placed while casey was incarcerated. I hope JS is keying in on this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Girlzrock on April 05, 2010, 04:19:32 PM
Thank you, Trim and n2wishn for the links.   Watching the hearing now... but wow, is it ever bad.  Does it  black out/ cut out the whole way through?  Ugh.  Painful to try to listen to!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on April 05, 2010, 04:19:50 PM
WOW why does she keep on avoiding her parents??? is it because she can't look at them because she knows she killed caylee,so she don't look at them out of guilt..or does she really hate them that much..i just don't understand??

I'd lean more toward the hate answer..mommy and daddy have been bailing her out for her whole life and now they can do nothing...in all the info for where the lawyers money was coming from, I don't recall anything about the A's helping out with any of the financing...coupled together with them taking some of her spotlight away and all the moneys they received for photo's, interviews and the like..I would think KC's hate meter is way up there.

"what about me...all they want to know about is Caylee"   Damn right !

JMO

Straight up!   Good to see you SS and others that I havent seen in a bit...I miss quite a few, like Fee Fi foo Fanny!

Me too Capp..where is Fanny?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 05, 2010, 04:25:53 PM
I cannot  believe  I missed it this morning.  Catching up on In Sessions.  I further cannot believe we are still talking about Joseph Jordan and Laura Buchanan.  Seems to me that a few monkeys with a few clicks of their fingers have found enough to make both of them irrelevant.  JJ could be googled quite easily and is shown to have violated TES  guidelines here on this very forum, which to me shows that he is not a good defense witness.  He further refutes what he said to JB and company later when he talks to LE.  JB has to be the WORST attorney ever. 

Cheney Mason is a LIAR.  He states that his opinion on Casey and the case has always been the same and he stated that publicly.  HHHmmm, that is not what I read before.

NOPE, sure isnt...we hearby consider him IMPEACHED

And I quote:

"You can pretty well predict there's going to be a life sentence, either a plea and get it over with or have a circus trial and then be convicted and get life," Mason said.


<snipped>

"Mason repeated his contention — which he made long before he joined the defense team — that there is no forensic evidence to link Casey Anthony to her child’s murder."


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/casey-anthony-fight-over-texas-equusearch-produces-fireworks.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29 (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/casey-anthony-fight-over-texas-equusearch-produces-fireworks.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29)

 ::MonkeyConfused::   

Does Mason think no one read or would remember what he said before?   ::MonkeyRoll::




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 04:30:34 PM
I cannot  believe  I missed it this morning.  Catching up on In Sessions.  I further cannot believe we are still talking about Joseph Jordan and Laura Buchanan.  Seems to me that a few monkeys with a few clicks of their fingers have found enough to make both of them irrelevant.  JJ could be googled quite easily and is shown to have violated TES  guidelines here on this very forum, which to me shows that he is not a good defense witness.  He further refutes what he said to JB and company later when he talks to LE.  JB has to be the WORST attorney ever. 

Cheney Mason is a LIAR.  He states that his opinion on Casey and the case has always been the same and he stated that publicly.  HHHmmm, that is not what I read before.

NOPE, sure isnt...we hearby consider him IMPEACHED

And I quote:

"You can pretty well predict there's going to be a life sentence, either a plea and get it over with or have a circus trial and then be convicted and get life," Mason said.


<snipped>

"Mason repeated his contention — which he made long before he joined the defense team — that there is no forensic evidence to link Casey Anthony to her child’s murder."


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/casey-anthony-fight-over-texas-equusearch-produces-fireworks.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29 (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/casey-anthony-fight-over-texas-equusearch-produces-fireworks.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29)

 ::MonkeyConfused::   

Does Mason think no one read or would remember what he said before?   ::MonkeyRoll::




Apparently not, but it is our job to remind him that the public sees & hears all....flipping colonel of nothing    NO FRIED CHICKEN FOR YOU!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 04:35:29 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
04/05/2010 Motion to Compel Production of Tape Recorded Statement of Joe Jordan

04/05/2010 Motion for Transcription

04/05/2010 Court Minutes on Motion to Modify Courts Order for Documents in Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010 Order Denying Motion to Modify the Courts Order on Defendants Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum for Documents in the Possession of Texas Equusearch


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 05, 2010, 04:38:51 PM
Mr. Mason said "If we can prove with evidence at least a reasonable doubt that somebody else had to put that body there when she could not have, then logic 101 controls. That means that somebody else was involved. Doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing..."  ::MonkeyEek:: That is a bombshell and it appears that somebody, who I believe will be George is going down for putting Caylee's body where she was found. Interesting the wording, doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing  ::MonkeyShocked::

Sooooo.. if I'm reading this right...... ??  Does this mean that the defense *could be* planning to throw George, or someone else, under the bus.. implying that this other person/s put Caylee's body where she was found, while Casey was in jail?   And if so, could this be why Casey has for a long long time 'ignored' her parents, perhaps this plan to toss em under the bus was made wayyyyy back, when we first thought she would do something like this? 

And lastly... is it possible that it's true, that George or someone else found Caylee's body and moved it around to places that had supposedly already been searched?  Whether to implicate someone else, get the suspicion off of Casey, or.... ?   Casey perhaps knowing this, using it against them??  ::MonkeyEek::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 04:39:10 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
04/05/2010 Motion to Compel Production of Tape Recorded Statement of Joe Jordan

04/05/2010 Motion for Transcription

04/05/2010 Court Minutes on Motion to Modify Courts Order for Documents in Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010 Order Denying Motion to Modify the Courts Order on Defendants Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum for Documents in the Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010           Correspondence


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 04:41:52 PM
I forgot to add that the above post of mine is my prediction but its not an absolute.

I think that NeJamie is willing to let them have a look see at his office or in chambers...Just like LDB did.  I think the judge would go for that..but I don't think he is going to go for all 4000 copied and delivered to them.

I think NeJamie made the point today, and very well I might add, that he has bent over backwards to accommodate the defense...but this is where he draws the line.  I truly hope that Judge Stan remembers the rights of the searchers to privacy.

Also..did it seem to anyone else that Baez was saying JJ was a no show today?  Or was he referring to something else?  Doesn't matter really because JJ can't have it both ways and neither can Laura B.  JJ keeps changing his story so he doesn't seem like a reliable witness for the defense at this point.

yes, seems he was expecting JJ..............said JJ's attorney assured him he'd have JJ there...........oooooooooooooopppppppppppppppppsssssssssssssss


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 05, 2010, 04:44:13 PM
The only thing that will tell the story of how long Caylee's body was in the area is that of bugs and plants...nothing more, nothing less.  ::MonkeyHang::

Yeppers!!   ::rhino::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 04:45:18 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
04/05/2010 Motion to Compel Production of Tape Recorded Statement of Joe Jordan

04/05/2010 Motion for Transcription

04/05/2010 Court Minutes on Motion to Modify Courts Order for Documents in Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010 Order Denying Motion to Modify the Courts Order on Defendants Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum for Documents in the Possession of Texas Equusearch



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 04:46:13 PM
Mr. Mason said "If we can prove with evidence at least a reasonable doubt that somebody else had to put that body there when she could not have, then logic 101 controls. That means that somebody else was involved. Doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing..."  ::MonkeyEek:: That is a bombshell and it appears that somebody, who I believe will be George is going down for putting Caylee's body where she was found. Interesting the wording, doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing  ::MonkeyShocked::

Sooooo.. if I'm reading this right...... ??  Does this mean that the defense *could be* planning to throw George, or someone else, under the bus.. implying that this other person/s put Caylee's body where she was found, while Casey was in jail?   And if so, could this be why Casey has for a long long time 'ignored' her parents, perhaps this plan to toss em under the bus was made wayyyyy back, when we first thought she would do something like this? 

And lastly... is it possible that it's true, that George or someone else found Caylee's body and moved it around to places that had supposedly already been searched?  Whether to implicate someone else, get the suspicion off of Casey, or.... ?   Casey perhaps knowing this, using it against them??  ::MonkeyEek::


I just don't know, but it sure sounds like someone is going under for the placement of Caylee's body, and I think the logical one would be George imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: loca on April 05, 2010, 04:48:48 PM
grr I wished I could reach thru my monitor and choke  baez





poppin  blood pressure meds


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 04:52:12 PM
The only thing that will tell the story of how long Caylee's body was in the area is that of bugs and plants...nothing more, nothing less.  ::MonkeyHang::

Hi nut!  I so agree..........no matter how many experts the DUHfence get or how they try to double talk, the bugs and plant forensics will tell the gruesome tale!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 04:52:27 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-court-hearing-20100405,0,6990498.story

After listening to two attorneys bicker about access to records earlier today, Orange County Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland this afternoon ordered Casey Anthony's defense team to look at records that have been available to them for seven months.

Strickland today denied a request by the defense for all records from Texas EquuSearch, a volunteer group whose members looked for missing Caylee Marie Anthony in 2008.

However, Strickland ordered the defense go through records of 32 searchers, records that have been available since late August in a local attorney's office.

If the defense needs access to more records, it is free to request those, Strickland said in a three-page ruling.

Defense attorney Jose Baez has complained that the search group did not turn over all of the names and records related to those who combed an east Orange County neighborhood in 2008 in a search for Anthony's 2-year-old daughter Caylee.

Thousands of people volunteered in the summer and fall of 2008 to look for Caylee, whose remains eventually were found in December of that year by Orange County meter reader Roy Kronk.

EquuSearch claims 32 people searched the woods around the location where the remains were found but that they did not go to the exact spot because the area was flooded at the time.

Attorney: Records are available for inspection

Texas EquuSearch attorney Mark NeJame fired back at Baez's claims, saying Baez has had plenty of time and access to view all the volunteer records. He called Baez's lack of doing so "either laziness or sloppiness."

NeJame said Texas EquuSearch can't be responsible for what searches people did o


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on April 05, 2010, 04:52:30 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
04/05/2010 Motion to Compel Production of Tape Recorded Statement of Joe Jordan

04/05/2010 Motion for Transcription

04/05/2010 Court Minutes on Motion to Modify Courts Order for Documents in Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010 Order Denying Motion to Modify the Courts Order on Defendants Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum for Documents in the Possession of Texas Equusearch


Yeah!   Score one for NeJame!   Way to go...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 05, 2010, 04:52:57 PM
grr I wished I could reach thru my monitor and choke  baez





poppin  blood pressure meds
I hear ya loca - it was 60 seconds in to that hearing and my blood began to boil - it skipped right over simmer and went to an immediate boil.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: loca on April 05, 2010, 04:53:25 PM
lol is that a smile like smirk on the judges face
bet he is thinking what a stupid idiot.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: loca on April 05, 2010, 04:54:06 PM
grr I wished I could reach thru my monitor and choke  baez





poppin  blood pressure meds
I hear ya loca - it was 60 seconds in to that hearing and my blood began to boil - it skipped right over simmer and went to an immediate boil.   ::MonkeyMad::


I have smoke coming out of ears!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 04:54:40 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
04/05/2010 Motion to Compel Production of Tape Recorded Statement of Joe Jordan

04/05/2010 Motion for Transcription

04/05/2010 Court Minutes on Motion to Modify Courts Order for Documents in Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010 Order Denying Motion to Modify the Courts Order on Defendants Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum for Documents in the Possession of Texas Equusearch


thanks trim... ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 05, 2010, 04:55:06 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
04/05/2010 Motion to Compel Production of Tape Recorded Statement of Joe Jordan

04/05/2010 Motion for Transcription

04/05/2010 Court Minutes on Motion to Modify Courts Order for Documents in Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010 Order Denying Motion to Modify the Courts Order on Defendants Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum for Documents in the Possession of Texas Equusearch

::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 05, 2010, 04:55:27 PM
Mr. Mason said "If we can prove with evidence at least a reasonable doubt that somebody else had to put that body there when she could not have, then logic 101 controls. That means that somebody else was involved. Doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing..."  ::MonkeyEek:: That is a bombshell and it appears that somebody, who I believe will be George is going down for putting Caylee's body where she was found. Interesting the wording, doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing  ::MonkeyShocked::

Sooooo.. if I'm reading this right...... ??  Does this mean that the defense *could be* planning to throw George, or someone else, under the bus.. implying that this other person/s put Caylee's body where she was found, while Casey was in jail?   And if so, could this be why Casey has for a long long time 'ignored' her parents, perhaps this plan to toss em under the bus was made wayyyyy back, when we first thought she would do something like this? 

And lastly... is it possible that it's true, that George or someone else found Caylee's body and moved it around to places that had supposedly already been searched?  Whether to implicate someone else, get the suspicion off of Casey, or.... ?   Casey perhaps knowing this, using it against them??  ::MonkeyEek::


I just don't know, but it sure sounds like someone is going under for the placement of Caylee's body, and I think the logical one would be George imo.

 ::rhino::

My mind keeps going back to that one phone just after Casey had been arrested, the one from jail where she needs Tony's phone number so bad, and is talking to her friend Kristina, Lee, and Cindy.  This part where Casey says 'Mom.... You don't know what my involvement is....?'  Sure sounded back then like there was some kind of plan afoot between them.  Makes even more sense now, looking back.  IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 04:55:56 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
04/05/2010 Motion to Compel Production of Tape Recorded Statement of Joe Jordan

04/05/2010 Motion for Transcription

04/05/2010 Court Minutes on Motion to Modify Courts Order for Documents in Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010 Order Denying Motion to Modify the Courts Order on Defendants Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum for Documents in the Possession of Texas Equusearch


Yeah!   Score one for NeJame!   Way to go...

I had total faith that he'd take them to church & JS would rule correctly.    I cannot see to see the actual ruling because there seems to be a slight reprimand in there telling Bozo to look at what was made available to him 7 months ago....hehe   GOTTA LOVE IT!  ::MonkeyCheer4:: One step closer to Justice for Caylee!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 04:57:07 PM
grr I wished I could reach thru my monitor and choke  baez





poppin  blood pressure meds
I hear ya loca - it was 60 seconds in to that hearing and my blood began to boil - it skipped right over simmer and went to an immediate boil.   ::MonkeyMad::


I have smoke coming out of ears!

Here  ::monkeywine2:: have a drink on me, the morons lost big time today!   So listen but dont fume, he didnt get his way


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 04:57:45 PM
grr I wished I could reach thru my monitor and choke  baez





poppin  blood pressure meds

here loca, you are gonna need this too ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 05, 2010, 04:58:39 PM
grr I wished I could reach thru my monitor and choke  baez





poppin  blood pressure meds


(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/zMisc/valium-kitty3.gif)  to the rescue! 

 ::MonkeyJnBox::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 04:59:48 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
04/05/2010 Motion to Compel Production of Tape Recorded Statement of Joe Jordan

04/05/2010 Motion for Transcription

04/05/2010 Court Minutes on Motion to Modify Courts Order for Documents in Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010 Order Denying Motion to Modify the Courts Order on Defendants Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum for Documents in the Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010           Correspondence

I sure want to read all this especially the order!  Where in the heck is Kathi and Bob K...they need to be getting their butts to the court house and get these documents for US!!! ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 05:00:54 PM
grr I wished I could reach thru my monitor and choke  baez





poppin  blood pressure meds
I hear ya loca - it was 60 seconds in to that hearing and my blood began to boil - it skipped right over simmer and went to an immediate boil.   ::MonkeyMad::

ooopssss looks like you needs some of loca's wine......... ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 05:01:17 PM
Mr. Mason said "If we can prove with evidence at least a reasonable doubt that somebody else had to put that body there when she could not have, then logic 101 controls. That means that somebody else was involved. Doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing..."  ::MonkeyEek:: That is a bombshell and it appears that somebody, who I believe will be George is going down for putting Caylee's body where she was found. Interesting the wording, doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing  ::MonkeyShocked::

Sooooo.. if I'm reading this right...... ??  Does this mean that the defense *could be* planning to throw George, or someone else, under the bus.. implying that this other person/s put Caylee's body where she was found, while Casey was in jail?   And if so, could this be why Casey has for a long long time 'ignored' her parents, perhaps this plan to toss em under the bus was made wayyyyy back, when we first thought she would do something like this? 

And lastly... is it possible that it's true, that George or someone else found Caylee's body and moved it around to places that had supposedly already been searched?  Whether to implicate someone else, get the suspicion off of Casey, or.... ?   Casey perhaps knowing this, using it against them??  ::MonkeyEek::


I just don't know, but it sure sounds like someone is going under for the placement of Caylee's body, and I think the logical one would be George imo.

 ::rhino::

My mind keeps going back to that one phone just after Casey had been arrested, the one from jail where she needs Tony's phone number so bad, and is talking to her friend Kristina, Lee, and Cindy.  This part where Casey says 'Mom.... You don't know what my involvement is....?'  Sure sounded back then like there was some kind of plan afoot between them.  Makes even more sense now, looking back.  IMO.


It actually goes back to Cindy & Casey riding around after dropping off Amy from Tony's 7/15  & well before the 911 calls.   I mean come on, you pick up a deathmobile, celly your monster to say "Call me asap....big trouble" OR something to that affect I forget the exact words at this moment & then you pick up your sociopath ho of a daughter and you find NO babygirl....how many times should this grandmother have called 911 prior to when the calls were made?    Why talk about a stolen car over the fact that there is an alleged "missing" babygirl?    Yea Mason, logic will when the day...bank on that!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 05:01:58 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
04/05/2010 Motion to Compel Production of Tape Recorded Statement of Joe Jordan

04/05/2010 Motion for Transcription

04/05/2010 Court Minutes on Motion to Modify Courts Order for Documents in Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010 Order Denying Motion to Modify the Courts Order on Defendants Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum for Documents in the Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010           Correspondence

04/05/2010           Transaction Assessment            8.00
04/05/2010           Counter Payment    Receipt # CR-2010-23476    ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE    (8.00)
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 05, 2010, 05:02:26 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
04/05/2010 Motion to Compel Production of Tape Recorded Statement of Joe Jordan

04/05/2010 Motion for Transcription

04/05/2010 Court Minutes on Motion to Modify Courts Order for Documents in Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010 Order Denying Motion to Modify the Courts Order on Defendants Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum for Documents in the Possession of Texas Equusearch


 ::MonkeyDance::   ::cartwheel::   ::MonkeyGavel::   ::MonkeyCheer4::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 05, 2010, 05:03:39 PM
Mr. Mason said "If we can prove with evidence at least a reasonable doubt that somebody else had to put that body there when she could not have, then logic 101 controls. That means that somebody else was involved. Doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing..."  ::MonkeyEek:: That is a bombshell and it appears that somebody, who I believe will be George is going down for putting Caylee's body where she was found. Interesting the wording, doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing  ::MonkeyShocked::

Sooooo.. if I'm reading this right...... ??  Does this mean that the defense *could be* planning to throw George, or someone else, under the bus.. implying that this other person/s put Caylee's body where she was found, while Casey was in jail?   And if so, could this be why Casey has for a long long time 'ignored' her parents, perhaps this plan to toss em under the bus was made wayyyyy back, when we first thought she would do something like this? 

And lastly... is it possible that it's true, that George or someone else found Caylee's body and moved it around to places that had supposedly already been searched?  Whether to implicate someone else, get the suspicion off of Casey, or.... ?   Casey perhaps knowing this, using it against them??  ::MonkeyEek::


I just don't know, but it sure sounds like someone is going under for the placement of Caylee's body, and I think the logical one would be George imo.

 ::rhino::

My mind keeps going back to that one phone just after Casey had been arrested, the one from jail where she needs Tony's phone number so bad, and is talking to her friend Kristina, Lee, and Cindy.  This part where Casey says 'Mom.... You don't know what my involvement is....?'  Sure sounded back then like there was some kind of plan afoot between them.  Makes even more sense now, looking back.  IMO.


Yep - that and the other jail house video tape when Casey is talking to C&G and said something to the effect...  "Don't worry, I didn't tell them anything".    ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: NCMike on April 05, 2010, 05:04:00 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
04/05/2010 Motion to Compel Production of Tape Recorded Statement of Joe Jordan

04/05/2010 Motion for Transcription

04/05/2010 Court Minutes on Motion to Modify Courts Order for Documents in Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010 Order Denying Motion to Modify the Courts Order on Defendants Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum for Documents in the Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010           Correspondence

I sure want to read all this especially the order!  Where in the heck is Kathi and Bob K...they need to be getting their butts to the court house and get these documents for US!!! ::rhino::


Here's one of em for ya

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23059303/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 05:05:31 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
04/05/2010 Motion to Compel Production of Tape Recorded Statement of Joe Jordan

04/05/2010 Motion for Transcription

04/05/2010 Court Minutes on Motion to Modify Courts Order for Documents in Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010 Order Denying Motion to Modify the Courts Order on Defendants Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum for Documents in the Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010           Correspondence

04/05/2010           Transaction Assessment            8.00
04/05/2010           Counter Payment    Receipt # CR-2010-23476    ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE    (8.00)
 

Looks like the murdering ho is reading the judge's ruling ^

Motion Denied After Tempers Flare During Casey Hearing
http://www.wftv.com/news/23053460/detail.html
Posted: 8:17 am EDT April 5,2010
Updated: 4:55 pm EDT April 5,2010

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Lawyers yelled in court Monday during the latest hearing in Casey Anthony's murder case, but Casey sat expressionless, rarely cracking a smile and hardly saying a word to her lawyers. In the end, Judge Stan Strickland denied Casey's defense team their request (read order).
JUDGE'S ORDER: Judge Denies Defense Request     http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23059303/detail.html
CASEY ARRIVES: Raw Video | See Images
CASEY HEARING ON 4/5: Part 1 | Part 2
VIDEO REPORT: Casey Attends Court Hearing
DOCUMENTS: Motion To Get Records | State Response
Casey walked into the court room just ahead of 10:00am (raw video | images), wearing a striped button-down long sleeve collar shirt and dark pants. She sat next to attorneys Jose Baez and J. Cheney Mason.
Casey's lawyers fought for more information about the volunteers who searched for Caylee. They're looking for anyone who searched the woods prior to the discovery of Caylee's remains there.
Many volunteers have said the ground was covered with too much water, but Casey’s defense claims they found at least one person who claims EquuSearch still searched, but came up with nothing.
“Either because of laziness or sloppiness, this information hasn't been tracked down,” EquuSearch attorney Mark NeJame argued in court.
There were explosive accusations and angry arguments Monday morning.
“They're trying to kill Ms. Anthony. We're trying to save her life. We can't do that if we're handcuffed,” defense attorney Jose Baez said.
Casey appeared stoic in court as her attorney asked the court to force Texas EquuSearch to hand over documents related to the search for Caylee Anthony. Casey's defense wants information about the thousands of volunteers who searched for the toddler.
But the non-profit group doesn't want all of the volunteers' personal information made public and NeJame pointed out he already released information on 32 people who worked near the place Caylee's remains were found and offered Baez a chance to look at the rest of the documents, just not make copies.
“Judge, these documents are critical, we need them,” Baez argued.
Baez said the defense found a bombshell, an EquuSearch volunteer who claims to have searched the remains area months prior to the discovery, but wasn't on the list of 32. That man, Joe Jordan, doesn't believe Caylee's remains were in that area when he searched, but NeJame said Jordan's information was in the documents he handed over and he questioned, if the rest of documents are so critical, why Casey's attorneys haven't stopped by to look at them.
“It is beyond me, it is incredulous to suggest that there is this bombshell, that things have been hidden from them when they’re just still sitting in my office. Come by after court, pay a visit,” NeJame argued.
Baez did most of the speaking Monday; Casey's new high-profile attorney, J. Cheney Mason, didn't play a big role.
Late Monday afternoon, Judge Strickland denied the defense request, but said Casey's attorneys can still go and look at the documents and, if they flag something that could be important, they can go back to the judge and try to get that released. The judge, though, isn't going to blanket release all the documents.

WHAT'S NEXT IN CASEY CASE?
Here's what's next in the case against Casey. Later this month, more discovery documents are expected to be released. In May, the civil case brought against Casey by Zenaida Gonzalez will have a pre-trial hearing.
Meanwhile, no one objected to the release of 50 jail house letters written by Casey so they could be made public as early as Tuesday afternoon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 05, 2010, 05:06:02 PM
Justice is coming Caylee!

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/Caylee_Is_Missing/Caylee%20Anthony/cayleebyebye.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 05:06:37 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-court-hearing-20100405,0,6990498.story
Judge to Casey Anthony defense: Look at records before requesting more access
Judge could issue order today regarding volunteer records
 By Amy L. Edwards, Bianca Prieto and Sarah Lundy, Orlando Sentinel

4:37 p.m. EDT, April 5, 2010
After listening to two attorneys bicker about access to records earlier today, Orange County Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland this afternoon ordered Casey Anthony's defense team to look at records that have been available to them for seven months.

Strickland today denied a request by the defense for all records from Texas EquuSearch, a volunteer group whose members looked for missing Caylee Marie Anthony in 2008.

However, Strickland ordered the defense go through records of 32 searchers, records that have been available since late August in a local attorney's office.

If the defense needs access to more records, it is free to request those, Strickland said in a three-page ruling.
<snipped>


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 05, 2010, 05:07:11 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
04/05/2010 Motion to Compel Production of Tape Recorded Statement of Joe Jordan

04/05/2010 Motion for Transcription

04/05/2010 Court Minutes on Motion to Modify Courts Order for Documents in Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010 Order Denying Motion to Modify the Courts Order on Defendants Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum for Documents in the Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010           Correspondence

I sure want to read all this especially the order!  Where in the heck is Kathi and Bob K...they need to be getting their butts to the court house and get these documents for US!!! ::rhino::

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/33021672/Casey--Anthony-court-hearing-5April2010-DENIED


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 05, 2010, 05:08:39 PM

 ::rhino::

My mind keeps going back to that one phone just after Casey had been arrested, the one from jail where she needs Tony's phone number so bad, and is talking to her friend Kristina, Lee, and Cindy.  This part where Casey says 'Mom.... You don't know what my involvement is....?'  Sure sounded back then like there was some kind of plan afoot between them.  Makes even more sense now, looking back.  IMO.


It actually goes back to Cindy & Casey riding around after dropping off Amy from Tony's 7/15  & well before the 911 calls.   I mean come on, you pick up a deathmobile, celly your monster to say "Call me asap....big trouble" OR something to that affect I forget the exact words at this moment & then you pick up your sociopath ho of a daughter and you find NO babygirl....how many times should this grandmother have called 911 prior to when the calls were made?    Why talk about a stolen car over the fact that there is an alleged "missing" babygirl?    Yea Mason, logic will when the day...bank on that!!!

Agreed!  And I cannot wait for the perp walk!   ::CowboySmiley::





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 05:09:55 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
04/05/2010 Motion to Compel Production of Tape Recorded Statement of Joe Jordan

04/05/2010 Motion for Transcription

04/05/2010 Court Minutes on Motion to Modify Courts Order for Documents in Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010 Order Denying Motion to Modify the Courts Order on Defendants Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum for Documents in the Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010           Correspondence

I sure want to read all this especially the order!  Where in the heck is Kathi and Bob K...they need to be getting their butts to the court house and get these documents for US!!! ::rhino::


Here's one of em for ya

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23059303/detail.html

Hi Mike, thanks ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 05:12:05 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
04/05/2010 Motion to Compel Production of Tape Recorded Statement of Joe Jordan

04/05/2010 Motion for Transcription

04/05/2010 Court Minutes on Motion to Modify Courts Order for Documents in Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010 Order Denying Motion to Modify the Courts Order on Defendants Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum for Documents in the Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010           Correspondence

I sure want to read all this especially the order!  Where in the heck is Kathi and Bob K...they need to be getting their butts to the court house and get these documents for US!!! ::rhino::

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/33021672/Casey--Anthony-court-hearing-5April2010-DENIED

thanks seeme!!  did you get pictures today???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 05:16:18 PM
Judge Strickland not only denied the motion, he slammed the door!   I read the motion & it is quite clear that Bozo was instructed to stop the fishing expedition.   It seems also quite clear that JS thinks nothing of Ms. Buchanan & realizes she was a plant all along by the Anthony camp without saying so.  Thank God JS preserved all of us so that if we chose to assist in a missing child/person case we will not be invaded upon as the defend defense would have liked & more likely dug up any dirt on any citizen to muddy the waters & ruin lives in the process.   NO CAN DO!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 05, 2010, 05:18:04 PM
Judge Strickland not only denied the motion, he slammed the door!   I read the motion & it is quite clear that Bozo was instructed to stop the fishing expedition.   It seems also quite clear that JS thinks nothing of Ms. Buchanan & realizes she was a plant all along by the Anthony camp without saying so.  Thank God JS preserved all of us so that if we chose to assist in a missing child/person case we will not be invaded upon as the defend defense would have liked & more likely dug up any dirt on any citizen to muddy the waters & ruin lives in the process.   NO CAN DO!
Thank you Cappy  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sea Searcher on April 05, 2010, 05:20:41 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-court-hearing-20100405,0,6990498.story

After listening to two attorneys bicker about access to records earlier today, Orange County Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland this afternoon ordered Casey Anthony's defense team to look at records that have been available to them for seven months.

Strickland today denied a request by the defense for all records from Texas EquuSearch, a volunteer group whose members looked for missing Caylee Marie Anthony in 2008.

However, Strickland ordered the defense go through records of 32 searchers, records that have been available since late August in a local attorney's office.

<SNIP>

Way to go...I couldn't have said "get off your lazy arse, and do your job" any better ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 05:24:10 PM
Excellent news, now bring on the notes  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 05:26:56 PM
Judge Strickland not only denied the motion, he slammed the door!   I read the motion & it is quite clear that Bozo was instructed to stop the fishing expedition.   It seems also quite clear that JS thinks nothing of Ms. Buchanan & realizes she was a plant all along by the Anthony camp without saying so.  Thank God JS preserved all of us so that if we chose to assist in a missing child/person case we will not be invaded upon as the defend defense would have liked & more likely dug up any dirt on any citizen to muddy the waters & ruin lives in the process.   NO CAN DO!
Thank you Cappy  ::MonkeyAngel::

Most welcome.   Now this defense team (many to follow) will have to exhibit good cause & sworn statements (key word being SWORN) that may compel a judge to allow a defense team to rifle thru an organization's records on this type of fishing expedition.   In other words, they will not be able to go thru 4000 lives looking for dirt or a way to implicate them in a crime.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 05, 2010, 05:28:50 PM
Excellent news, now bring on the notes  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyGavel::   I agree.     Let's see what the propaganda notes have to say!     ::MonkeyRoll:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 05:29:48 PM
Also, JS seemed to shut the door on the defense's intent to make TES's efforts & experience look soddy by stating in his Order that TES cannot be responsible for people that may have searched with them but decide to go off on their own.   Kiss that one goodbye Bozo!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 05:31:19 PM
Excellent news, now bring on the notes  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyGavel::   I agree.     Let's see what the propaganda notes have to say!     ::MonkeyRoll:: 
Yes, mommy did this and daddy did this, and they were so mean. And Lee he tried to molest me. And Caylee how I love her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 05, 2010, 05:33:09 PM
Excellent news, now bring on the notes  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyGavel::   I agree.     Let's see what the propaganda notes have to say!     ::MonkeyRoll:: 
Yes, mommy did this and daddy did this, and they were so mean. And Lee he tried to molest me. And Caylee how I love her.

No doubt....    Bozo wants them put out there for a reason.    ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 05, 2010, 05:34:36 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
04/05/2010 Motion to Compel Production of Tape Recorded Statement of Joe Jordan

04/05/2010 Motion for Transcription

04/05/2010 Court Minutes on Motion to Modify Courts Order for Documents in Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010 Order Denying Motion to Modify the Courts Order on Defendants Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum for Documents in the Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010           Correspondence

I sure want to read all this especially the order!  Where in the heck is Kathi and Bob K...they need to be getting their butts to the court house and get these documents for US!!! ::rhino::

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/33021672/Casey--Anthony-court-hearing-5April2010-DENIED

thanks seeme!!  did you get pictures today???

You're always welcome Sunny!

I did not see the hearing "live" today, so I did not get pics. I will try and go thru the videos by tomorrow and post them in my photobucket. I'll post the link here for you as soon as I do.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 05:35:39 PM
Excellent news, now bring on the notes  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyGavel::   I agree.     Let's see what the propaganda notes have to say!     ::MonkeyRoll:: 
Yes, mommy did this and daddy did this, and they were so mean. And Lee he tried to molest me. And Caylee how I love her.

No doubt....    Bozo wants them put out there for a reason.    ::MonkeyNoNo::

I think it was reported by a media rep that claims to have seen some of the letters that Caylee was never mentioned.  Bozo said on Insessions that some of what Casey said will be scrutinized but there is no confession.


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Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 05, 2010, 05:35:49 PM
Also, JS seemed to shut the door on the defense's intent to make TES's efforts & experience look soddy by stating in his Order that TES cannot be responsible for people that may have searched with them but decide to go off on their own.   Kiss that one goodbye Bozo!

Amen!! ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 05, 2010, 05:38:20 PM
Mr. Mason said "If we can prove with evidence at least a reasonable doubt that somebody else had to put that body there when she could not have, then logic 101 controls. That means that somebody else was involved. Doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing..."  ::MonkeyEek:: That is a bombshell and it appears that somebody, who I believe will be George is going down for putting Caylee's body where she was found. Interesting the wording, doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing  ::MonkeyShocked::

Sooooo.. if I'm reading this right...... ??  Does this mean that the defense *could be* planning to throw George, or someone else, under the bus.. implying that this other person/s put Caylee's body where she was found, while Casey was in jail?   And if so, could this be why Casey has for a long long time 'ignored' her parents, perhaps this plan to toss em under the bus was made wayyyyy back, when we first thought she would do something like this? 

And lastly... is it possible that it's true, that George or someone else found Caylee's body and moved it around to places that had supposedly already been searched?  Whether to implicate someone else, get the suspicion off of Casey, or.... ?   Casey perhaps knowing this, using it against them??  ::MonkeyEek::


I just don't know, but it sure sounds like someone is going under for the placement of Caylee's body, and I think the logical one would be George imo.

 ::rhino::

My mind keeps going back to that one phone just after Casey had been arrested, the one from jail where she needs Tony's phone number so bad, and is talking to her friend Kristina, Lee, and Cindy.  This part where Casey says 'Mom.... You don't know what my involvement is....?'  Sure sounded back then like there was some kind of plan afoot between them.  Makes even more sense now, looking back.  IMO.


Yep - that and the other jail house video tape when Casey is talking to C&G and said something to the effect...  "Don't worry, I didn't tell them anything".    ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Oh yes!!  That one too!   ::rhino::



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Post by: Sassycat on April 05, 2010, 05:39:43 PM
Excellent news, now bring on the notes  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyGavel::   I agree.     Let's see what the propaganda notes have to say!     ::MonkeyRoll:: 
Yes, mommy did this and daddy did this, and they were so mean. And Lee he tried to molest me. And Caylee how I love her.

No doubt....    Bozo wants them put out there for a reason.    ::MonkeyNoNo::

I think it was reported by a media rep that claims to have seen some of the letters that Caylee was never mentioned.  Bozo said on Insessions that some of what Casey said will be scrutinized but there is no confession.

Wow.   Its hard to understand why she would never mention Caylee.   Also, hard to understand why Bozo would allow them to be put out there - because it will be another glimpse into the real KC character.   Unless, of course, he told her what to write in them.    Can't wait to read them!


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Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 05:44:14 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
04/05/2010 Motion to Compel Production of Tape Recorded Statement of Joe Jordan

04/05/2010 Motion for Transcription

04/05/2010 Court Minutes on Motion to Modify Courts Order for Documents in Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010 Order Denying Motion to Modify the Courts Order on Defendants Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum for Documents in the Possession of Texas Equusearch

04/05/2010           Correspondence

I sure want to read all this especially the order!  Where in the heck is Kathi and Bob K...they need to be getting their butts to the court house and get these documents for US!!! ::rhino::

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/33021672/Casey--Anthony-court-hearing-5April2010-DENIED

thanks seeme!!  did you get pictures today???

You're always welcome Sunny!

I did not see the hearing "live" today, so I did not get pics. I will try and go thru the videos by tomorrow and post them in my photobucket. I'll post the link here for you as soon as I do.

Thanks again.....someone mentioned seeing at post at WS from someone who thought they noticed a hospital type bracelet on georgie's arm.....I was just wondering if anyone else saw it....I didn't...but to be honest I tried not to look at he or sin-sin cause it was too darn early for margaritas!! ::MonkeyDevil::


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Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 05:48:24 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/casey-anthony-jail-letters-to.html
WDBO Local News      
Casey Anthony jail letters to be released Tuesday
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ April 6, 2010 5:00 AM Permalink | Comments (0)
We'll get a glimpse into Casey Anthony's life in behind bars Tuesday with the expected release of letters that the accused child killer wrote to another inmate.

Orange County Investigators say a corrections officer helped Casey pass more than 250 pages of letters to Robyn Adams, the wife of a former Altamonte Springs police officer, who was in jail for helping her husband sell grow and pot

"You are going to find, if you look at them in context, a person who's locked up 23 hours a day," defense attorney Jose Baez said Monday.

Casey's defense had 15 days to fight release of the letters but chose not to.

"We have nothing to hide," Baez said.

The corrections officer who helped them communicate has been suspended with pay for breaking jail protocol.


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Post by: Nut44x4 on April 05, 2010, 05:48:50 PM
probably posted...you guys are fast, lol

UPDATED: 5:24 pm EDT April 5, 2010
Judge Denies Defense Motion For EquuSearch Docs
Defense Seeks Records Of Searchers
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Judge Stan Strickland denied a motion by the defense
to release search records in the Casey Anthony investigation on Monday.

Strickland delayed a ruling during the morning hearing and then released his decision in the afternoon.

Anthony's defense team sought about 4,000 pages of documents from Texas EquuSearch, but Tim Miller, who is president of the group, opposes the motion. Miller called it an invasion of privacy for volunteers who searched for Caylee.

Anthony's attorneys want to know the names of the volunteers who searched the area around Suburban Drive and Hidden Oaks Elementary.
http://www.wesh.com/news/23059273/detail.html


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 05:49:19 PM
I asked the same thing Sunny I saw that post about a hospital bracelet, maybe he was let out on a day pass?  ::MonkeyTongue::


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Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 05:50:53 PM
http://www.globe-democrat.com/news/2010/apr/05/lawyers-joust-in-anthony-case/

Lawyers joust in Anthony case
By Story provided by UPI
Monday, April 5, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla., April 5 (UPI) -- A lawyer for murder suspect Casey Anthony and another for a search group traded verbal jabs in a Florida court Monday over records about volunteer searchers.

Jose Baez, lead attorney for Anthony, accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee, complained Texas EquuSearch had not turned over the names of all those who searched the area near Anthony's home where her daughter's remains were discovered in December 2008, the Orlando Sentinel reported.

"Why is everyone so afraid of uncovering the truth in this case?" Baez asked at one point.

Texas EquuSearch attorney Mark NeJame, however, put the onus on Baez, saying he hadn't come to his office to look at the documents. NeJame called that "either laziness or sloppiness."

Anthony, 24, is charged with first-degree murder and could be put to death if convicted.

Before the little girl's remains were found, thousands of Texas EquuSearch volunteers twice combed parts of Orange County. The group says 32 people were in the vicinity of where the girl's remains were later found but had not been at the exact spot because it was flooded at the time.

The defense says there were other volunteers who also were in the area, and could raise the possibility someone other than Anthony put the girl's remains there.

In other developments Monday, attorneys on both sides discussed privately an illegal recording made by EquuSearch volunteer Joe Jordan, the Sentinel said. The recording was of a conversation between an investigator with Anthony's defense team, himself and his attorney.

In Florida, it's illegal to record someone without their knowledge.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 05:51:46 PM
"Why is everyone so afraid of uncovering the truth in this case?" Baez asked at one point.  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 05:52:05 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/casey-anthony-judge-denies-defense-team-on-texas-equusearch-request.html
Casey Anthony: Judge denies defense team on Texas EquuSearch request
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Jose Baez, WESH, WFTV — posted by halboedeker on April, 5 2010 5:32 PM
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First came the shouting in the morning. Then came the ruling in the afternoon.

Judge Stan Strickland has denied the Casey Anthony defense team’s move to seek all documents on Texas EquuSearch volunteers who looked for Caylee Anthony.

Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter. WFTV-Channel 9 anchor Martie Salt said Anthony this morning “sat expressionless, never cracking a smile and hardly saying a word to her lawyers.”

WFTV and WESH-Channel 2 replayed dramatic scenes from the morning hearing over the EquuSearch records. Anthony defense attorney Jose Baez had wanted photocopies of 4,000 documents on the volunteers. EquuSearch attorney Mark NeJame countered that the defense team could come to his office and review the records. 

The TV reports this evening showed Baez and NeJame  shouting. “They’re trying to kill Miss Anthony,” Baez said.

“They’ve got time to do TV interviews and drive to TV stations,” NeJame said. ”I think they should have time to come to my office and review the 4,000 documents.”

The news of Strickland’s ruling, which came late this afternoon, was slipped into the reports on the 5 p.m. newscasts.

Baez is not objecting to the release of Anthony’s letters to another jail inmate, WESH’s Amanda Ober also reported.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 05:52:37 PM
I asked the same thing Sunny I saw that post about a hospital bracelet, maybe he was let out on a day pass?  ::MonkeyTongue::

LOL...he didn't look to good did he? ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 05:53:12 PM
"Why is everyone so afraid of uncovering the truth in this case?" Baez asked at one point.  ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyTongue:: His stupidity never ceases to amaze me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 05:58:19 PM
I asked the same thing Sunny I saw that post about a hospital bracelet, maybe he was let out on a day pass?  ::MonkeyTongue::

LOL...he didn't look to good did he? ::MonkeyDevil::
No he didn't, know I just noticed that someone commented that Cindy now looks like Joan Rivers with the new hair do, I'm assuming, I had to go back and look at Cindy's pic again  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 05:59:16 PM
"Why is everyone so afraid of uncovering the truth in this case?" Baez asked at one point.  ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyTongue:: His stupidity never ceases to amaze me.
He was really inept today, more than usual.  ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 05:59:17 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/casey-anthony-jail-letters-to.html
WDBO Local News      
Casey Anthony jail letters to be released Tuesday
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ April 6, 2010 5:00 AM Permalink | Comments (0)
We'll get a glimpse into Casey Anthony's life in behind bars Tuesday with the expected release of letters that the accused child killer wrote to another inmate.

Orange County Investigators say a corrections officer helped Casey pass more than 250 pages of letters to Robyn Adams, the wife of a former Altamonte Springs police officer, who was in jail for helping her husband sell grow and pot

"You are going to find, if you look at them in context, a person who's locked up 23 hours a day," defense attorney Jose Baez said Monday.

Casey's defense had 15 days to fight release of the letters but chose not to.

"We have nothing to hide," Baez said.

The corrections officer who helped them communicate has been suspended with pay for breaking jail protocol.

OMG  a  double dose week!   Now this should be interesting to look inside the mind of a sociopath murdering ho ho ho cooped up for all eternity.

O/T hearing on MJ case coming up, HLN will be covering it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 06:01:08 PM
WOW why does she keep on avoiding her parents??? is it because she can't look at them because she knows she killed caylee,so she don't look at them out of guilt..or does she really hate them that much..i just don't understand??

I'd lean more toward the hate answer..mommy and daddy have been bailing her out for her whole life and now they can do nothing...in all the info for where the lawyers money was coming from, I don't recall anything about the A's helping out with any of the financing...coupled together with them taking some of her spotlight away and all the moneys they received for photo's, interviews and the like..I would think KC's hate meter is way up there.

"what about me...all they want to know about is Caylee"   Damn right !

JMO

Straight up!   Good to see you SS and others that I havent seen in a bit...I miss quite a few, like Fee Fi foo Fanny!

Me too Capp..where is Fanny?

I dont know Gypsy but my original post was edited & there should be no reason why it should have been - Im perplexed??


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Post by: SunnyinTX on April 05, 2010, 06:08:45 PM
"Why is everyone so afraid of uncovering the truth in this case?" Baez asked at one point.  ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyTongue:: His stupidity never ceases to amaze me.
He was really inept today, more than usual.  ::MonkeyShovel::

I nearly fell over when he couldn't find his maps and had to 'borrow' Judge S's!! ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 05, 2010, 06:09:07 PM
Mr. Mason said "If we can prove with evidence at least a reasonable doubt that somebody else had to put that body there when she could not have, then logic 101 controls. That means that somebody else was involved. Doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing..."  ::MonkeyEek:: That is a bombshell and it appears that somebody, who I believe will be George is going down for putting Caylee's body where she was found. Interesting the wording, doesn't mean necessarily that somebody else did the actual killing  ::MonkeyShocked::

Helloooo Casey defense team, what are you saying here, that you KNOW Casey killed Caylee but she had help covering it up...well duh we already know that!   Last I looked that does not exonerate your client from murder, get real!

Who cares if it implicates her family as accessories after the fact, I would welcome it as that is true justice for Caylee, so knock yourself out silly Clown, Colonel & Beast.  

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 06:17:04 PM
Also, JS seemed to shut the door on the defense's intent to make TES's efforts & experience look soddy by stating in his Order that TES cannot be responsible for people that may have searched with them but decide to go off on their own.   Kiss that one goodbye Bozo!

Yeah--that was good.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 06:19:42 PM
Excellent news, now bring on the notes  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyGavel::   I agree.     Let's see what the propaganda notes have to say!     ::MonkeyRoll:: 
Yes, mommy did this and daddy did this, and they were so mean. And Lee he tried to molest me. And Caylee how I love her.

True dat;   For some reason, now I'm thinking the one going under the bus might be CinCin.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 06:23:06 PM
I asked the same thing Sunny I saw that post about a hospital bracelet, maybe he was let out on a day pass?  ::MonkeyTongue::

LOL...he didn't look to good did he? ::MonkeyDevil::
No he didn't, know I just noticed that someone commented that Cindy now looks like Joan Rivers with the new hair do, I'm assuming, I had to go back and look at Cindy's pic again  ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   Poor Joan.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 06:27:34 PM
I asked the same thing Sunny I saw that post about a hospital bracelet, maybe he was let out on a day pass?  ::MonkeyTongue::

LOL...he didn't look to good did he? ::MonkeyDevil::
No he didn't, know I just noticed that someone commented that Cindy now looks like Joan Rivers with the new hair do, I'm assuming, I had to go back and look at Cindy's pic again  ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   Poor Joan.

Well let's put it this way, the day Cindy gets as much plastic surgery as Joan & that scrowl is still there will be the day plastic surgeons around the globe have a meltdown!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: loca on April 05, 2010, 06:30:22 PM
Baez in his arrogant mode just irks me with his smirk smile in court. I dont see anyone else acting like he does. he needs to take a crash course on court etiquette 101. ::MonkeyMad::


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Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 06:35:56 PM
HLN discussing it now

Lisa Bloom, the search is a legitimate argument...please her and her mother both - put the koolaid down beeotches!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on April 05, 2010, 06:45:47 PM
Excellent news, now bring on the notes  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyGavel::   I agree.     Let's see what the propaganda notes have to say!     ::MonkeyRoll:: 
Yes, mommy did this and daddy did this, and they were so mean. And Lee he tried to molest me. And Caylee how I love her.

True dat;   For some reason, now I'm thinking the one going under the bus might be CinCin.

I think Lee already threw GA, CA and Casey under the bus when he requested immunity.  However ..Lee is a bit simple minded..so I think "he knows a lot about a lot of things"..but I don't think he knows to what extent GA and CA have lied to cover aide and abet their daughter's murderest acts.  I think Lee retreated long ago into a safe place in his mind...personally who can blame him.

I think her letters are going to tell a tale that she has been coached on by Baez.  They should be interesting.  I think he always planned that GA & CA would be outed.. Lee not so much.  It should be interesting to read about her lack of love life, her food preferences, her hate for MA and Pa ...and anyone else she felt inclined to include in her correspondence with her jailhouse penpal.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: loca on April 05, 2010, 06:46:29 PM
HLN discussing it now

Lisa Bloom, the search is a legitimate argument...please her and her mother both - put the koolaid down beeotches!

yeah they need to burn their crack pipe lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on April 05, 2010, 06:47:29 PM
"Why is everyone so afraid of uncovering the truth in this case?" Baez asked at one point.  ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyTongue:: His stupidity never ceases to amaze me.
He was really inept today, more than usual.  ::MonkeyShovel::

I nearly fell over when he couldn't find his maps and had to 'borrow' Judge S's!! ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

Too much Easter wine for poor BoBo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 06:52:36 PM
"Why is everyone so afraid of uncovering the truth in this case?" Baez asked at one point.  ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyTongue:: His stupidity never ceases to amaze me.
He was really inept today, more than usual.  ::MonkeyShovel::

I nearly fell over when he couldn't find his maps and had to 'borrow' Judge S's!! ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

Too much Easter wine for poor BoBo

Snit, that man cant find his own rear unless someone holds up a mirror for him  :2doh:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 06:59:40 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/casey-anthony-jail-letters-could-be-made-public-tuesday.html
Casey Anthony: Jail letters could be made public Tuesday
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Jose Baez, WESH, WFTV, WKMG — posted by halboedeker on April, 5 2010 6:55 PM
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The public will soon see Casey Anthony’s letters to another inmate at the Orange County Jail.

“Investigative sources called the letters significant, but that’s not what Casey’s defense team told Channel 9’s Jeff Deal,” WFTV-Channel 9 anchor Martie Salt said.

Deal explained: “The time period to try to stop the release of those letters has passed, and so now Casey Anthony’s attorney told me today there was nothing incriminating in those letters, nothing that could link Casey to Caylee’s remains.”

Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter.

“Jail letters could be released tomorrow,” WKMG-Channel 6 said tonight. The release could come tomorrow afternoon, WKMG anchor Jacqueline London added.

“Jose Baez tells me he will not object to the release of  letters Casey wrote to another inmate in jail,” WESH-Channel 2’s Amanda Ober reported. “We may get a look at them as soon as tomorrow.”


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 05, 2010, 07:12:46 PM
Capps and others...do you think that the gentleman who was dressed nicely, sitting in the back of the courtroom that Mason went to speak with during the proceedings could have been the "mystery" witness' lawyer?? he looks like an attorney type of guy....
Others had asked who this guy could be and Brandi had done a good screen caption of him...he resembles Mason in a way...know the one that I am speaking of? maybe his "secret witness" that they are saying they have didn't show??? his attorney did, but he didn't ? changed his mind?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 07:17:02 PM
Capps and others...do you think that the gentleman who was dressed nicely, sitting in the back of the courtroom that Mason went to speak with during the proceedings could have been the "mystery" witness' lawyer?? he looks like an attorney type of guy....
Others had asked who this guy could be and Brandi had done a good screen caption of him...he resembles Mason in a way...know the one that I am speaking of? maybe his "secret witness" that they are saying they have didn't show??? his attorney did, but he didn't ? changed his mind?

O Cookie, girlfriend I do believe you may have nailed that one.   Yup, "the witness" attorney, could very well be...eerily looks like Mason.  Bozo tried to give an excuse that he may have gotten the wrong court room but that is just pure poppycock IMHO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 07:33:50 PM
OMG I really do not want to have to listen JVM dramatize but I have to remind myself that if Bozo and/or Mason comes on we need to know what he said...give me strength    Wait Tim Miller is on via phone & of course Mark the legal commentary attorney that appears on every news show possible in one given day is on.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 05, 2010, 07:34:07 PM
Capps and others...do you think that the gentleman who was dressed nicely, sitting in the back of the courtroom that Mason went to speak with during the proceedings could have been the "mystery" witness' lawyer?? he looks like an attorney type of guy....
Others had asked who this guy could be and Brandi had done a good screen caption of him...he resembles Mason in a way...know the one that I am speaking of? maybe his "secret witness" that they are saying they have didn't show??? his attorney did, but he didn't ? changed his mind?

O Cookie, girlfriend I do believe you may have nailed that one.   Yup, "the witness" attorney, could very well be...eerily looks like Mason.  Bozo tried to give an excuse that he may have gotten the wrong court room but that is just pure poppycock IMHO

Good thinking cookie! Very possible!

I only copied the third page of the ruling.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image206.png)

It was a good day.

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 05, 2010, 07:36:50 PM
It was a good day Brandi!! woo hoo!!  ::MonkeyGavel::

now the letters tomorrow...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 07:36:59 PM
Tim said that JJ seemed to be a good guy but he has a lot of splaining to do come trial.  Said who knows if after November he decided to get 15 minutes of fame


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 07:40:59 PM
It was a good day Brandi!! woo hoo!!  ::MonkeyGavel::

now the letters tomorrow...

The Snookie wannabe is going to be pissed that her blabberings are going global, or is she?   There is no doubt in my mind that Casey has been relishing in all this attention, she couldnt get it being a morally sound decent human being and to her it doesnt matter how she gets it.... after all folks shes a Superstar!   NOT!  I think her personality will come shining thru no matter the content.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 05, 2010, 07:47:17 PM

I think Lee already threw GA, CA and Casey under the bus when he requested immunity.  However ..Lee is a bit simple minded..so I think "he knows a lot about a lot of things"..but I don't think he knows to what extent GA and CA have lied to cover aide and abet their daughter's murderest acts.  I think Lee retreated long ago into a safe place in his mind...personally who can blame him.

I think her letters are going to tell a tale that she has been coached on by Baez.  They should be interesting.  I think he always planned that GA & CA would be outed.. Lee not so much.  It should be interesting to read about her lack of love life, her food preferences, her hate for MA and Pa ...and anyone else she felt inclined to include in her correspondence with her jailhouse penpal.

My theory has always been that KC was going to say that she left Caylee with GA on the day she left (or the night before with both of them) and she didn't know what happened after that. GA has already by his lies about seeing them that day, given her the opportunity to prove he was the last one to see her "if she didn't".............She could say she was out partying (which would make sense) because she had given Caylee to them and had no idea she was really missing. She refused to answer her phone when they called because she did not want to stop partying and have to come back and take care of Caylee.  When Cindy found her at Tony's that was the first she knew that Caylee was not with them. Then they told her they were going to have her prosecuted so she went along  with their "story" that she was kidnapped by the babysitter. During this they told her that she would not be prosecuted if the babysitter took Caylee and she believed them because they had always been able to get her out of trouble before.

That was why they made all the calls to LE in the beginning because they would have to hang up and get her quietened down to get the info out there they wanted LE to have. The threat about the car was to keep KC from telling the truth. Their "story" had to match so they told her not to tell anything. (remember she said she had not told LE anything when talking to the Anthony's) They told her to keep quiet and they would get her out of it and that is why they kept going on with all the "fake sightings" to cast doubt.

She could say that GA molested Caylee like he did her and during that accidentally killed her and she had no idea until 30 days later because she had given Caylee to them. GA has set himself up for all of this by the lies and the cover-ups (gas cans in trunk, etc.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 05, 2010, 07:53:20 PM

I think Lee already threw GA, CA and Casey under the bus when he requested immunity.  However ..Lee is a bit simple minded..so I think "he knows a lot about a lot of things"..but I don't think he knows to what extent GA and CA have lied to cover aide and abet their daughter's murderest acts.  I think Lee retreated long ago into a safe place in his mind...personally who can blame him.

I think her letters are going to tell a tale that she has been coached on by Baez.  They should be interesting.  I think he always planned that GA & CA would be outed.. Lee not so much.  It should be interesting to read about her lack of love life, her food preferences, her hate for MA and Pa ...and anyone else she felt inclined to include in her correspondence with her jailhouse penpal.

My theory has always been that KC was going to say that she left Caylee with GA on the day she left (or the night before with both of them) and she didn't know what happened after that. GA has already by his lies about seeing them that day, given her the opportunity to prove he was the last one to see her "if she didn't".............She could say she was out partying (which would make sense) because she had given Caylee to them and had no idea she was really missing. She refused to answer her phone when they called because she did not want to stop partying and have to come back and take care of Caylee.  When Cindy found her at Tony's that was the first she knew that Caylee was not with them. Then they told her they were going to have her prosecuted so she went along  with their "story" that she was kidnapped by the babysitter. During this they told her that she would not be prosecuted if the babysitter took Caylee and she believed them because they had always been able to get her out of trouble before.

That was why they made all the calls to LE in the beginning because they would have to hang up and get her quietened down to get the info out there they wanted LE to have. The threat about the car was to keep KC from telling the truth. Their "story" had to match so they told her not to tell anything. (remember she said she had not told LE anything when talking to the Anthony's) They told her to keep quiet and they would get her out of it and that is why they kept going on with all the "fake sightings" to cast doubt.

She could say that GA molested Caylee like he did her and during that accidentally killed her and she had no idea until 30 days later because she had given Caylee to them. GA has set himself up for all of this by the lies and the cover-ups (gas cans in trunk, etc.)

oh my goodness Turbo! that is brilliant thinking! this could be something that the defense could use to try to get her off! I hope that they don't read here cause they will pounce on this info straight away lol!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2010, 08:02:27 PM

I think Lee already threw GA, CA and Casey under the bus when he requested immunity.  However ..Lee is a bit simple minded..so I think "he knows a lot about a lot of things"..but I don't think he knows to what extent GA and CA have lied to cover aide and abet their daughter's murderest acts.  I think Lee retreated long ago into a safe place in his mind...personally who can blame him.

I think her letters are going to tell a tale that she has been coached on by Baez.  They should be interesting.  I think he always planned that GA & CA would be outed.. Lee not so much.  It should be interesting to read about her lack of love life, her food preferences, her hate for MA and Pa ...and anyone else she felt inclined to include in her correspondence with her jailhouse penpal.

My theory has always been that KC was going to say that she left Caylee with GA on the day she left (or the night before with both of them) and she didn't know what happened after that. GA has already by his lies about seeing them that day, given her the opportunity to prove he was the last one to see her "if she didn't".............She could say she was out partying (which would make sense) because she had given Caylee to them and had no idea she was really missing. She refused to answer her phone when they called because she did not want to stop partying and have to come back and take care of Caylee.  When Cindy found her at Tony's that was the first she knew that Caylee was not with them. Then they told her they were going to have her prosecuted so she went along  with their "story" that she was kidnapped by the babysitter. During this they told her that she would not be prosecuted if the babysitter took Caylee and she believed them because they had always been able to get her out of trouble before.

That was why they made all the calls to LE in the beginning because they would have to hang up and get her quietened down to get the info out there they wanted LE to have. The threat about the car was to keep KC from telling the truth. Their "story" had to match so they told her not to tell anything. (remember she said she had not told LE anything when talking to the Anthony's) They told her to keep quiet and they would get her out of it and that is why they kept going on with all the "fake sightings" to cast doubt.

She could say that GA molested Caylee like he did her and during that accidentally killed her and she had no idea until 30 days later because she had given Caylee to them. GA has set himself up for all of this by the lies and the cover-ups (gas cans in trunk, etc.)

oh my goodness Turbo! that is brilliant thinking! this could be something that the defense could use to try to get her off! I hope that they don't read here cause they will pounce on this info straight away lol!

One lil glitch with that, Casey was driving around with her car not George, her cell phone backs that up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 05, 2010, 08:11:02 PM

Prosecutors want transcripts of an August hearing where one of Casey Anthony's defense attorneys announced her innocence in court.

Assistant State Attorney Linda Drane Burdick wants the transcripts for the two-hour hearing on Aug. 21, 2009. She doesn't explain in her one-page request filed Monday why the state seeks the information.

Anthony, 24, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. The 2-year-old's remains were found in woods less than a mile from her family home in December 2008.

At the August hearing, attorney Todd Macaluso, who is no longer a member of the defense team, announced in court: "The body or remains of Caylee Anthony were placed there after Anthony was locked up in the Orange County facility."

The defense at the time wouldn't go into details about what evidence they had. Macaluso's statement was part of the defense's request to obtain records from Texas EquuSearch, the volunteer group that helped search for Caylee.

The group claims there was too much flooding in the area and they could not search the exact location where Caylee was later found.

Copyright © 2010, Orlando Sentinel


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on April 05, 2010, 08:16:10 PM

Prosecutors want transcripts of an August hearing where one of Casey Anthony's defense attorneys announced her innocence in court.

Assistant State Attorney Linda Drane Burdick wants the transcripts for the two-hour hearing on Aug. 21, 2009. She doesn't explain in her one-page request filed Monday why the state seeks the information.

Anthony, 24, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. The 2-year-old's remains were found in woods less than a mile from her family home in December 2008.

At the August hearing, attorney Todd Macaluso, who is no longer a member of the defense team, announced in court: "The body or remains of Caylee Anthony were placed there after Anthony was locked up in the Orange County facility."

The defense at the time wouldn't go into details about what evidence they had. Macaluso's statement was part of the defense's request to obtain records from Texas EquuSearch, the volunteer group that helped search for Caylee.

The group claims there was too much flooding in the area and they could not search the exact location where Caylee was later found.

Copyright © 2010, Orlando Sentinel

The defense was ordered to come up with the proof they boasted about , by February. The SA is still waiting. Maybe they would like to put the pressure on a little bit?  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 05, 2010, 08:19:55 PM
 ::MonkeyDance:: What a day in court. Mark Najame did a great job.

When Bobo told Judge Strickland that Joe Joseph was to be in the court room ... on the fly right before everything got underway ..it struck me funny. I wonder if Bobo did talk to JJ's attorney and discussed with him that he may mention JJ in court today. That it was more or less a invitation for JJ to appear/yet was not necessary that he comply. Since he was not on the docket for today (( I am guessing)) something just did not set right with me on Bobo's comments. He said to J.Strickland well since we changed court rooms... as if that was the reason why JJ was not present. Strange.

Laura Buchanan I found this just a few moments ago. I don't know if someone has posted it here. Apparently she and JW have some thing in common. They have a thing for presidents of our country.
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://humbleopinionforum.net/2010/03/31/casey-anthony-convicted-felon-update-31-march-2010/

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Dear Mr. President,
I hope your feeling better now!! I met you at hillarys pres. run in Paris Kentucky at legion park. Thank you so much for taking the time to meet with the kids at the plyground area. You said to me when I got the pictures you would like me to send them too you but I don’t know how to do that. I am now living in Mendham nj.Who would have thought,right

laura Buchanan
Your the greatest!!

From what I can tell she claims to live in Mendham New Jersey.  And she is a fan of the old President.  Here is Buchanan’s signed statement, but I can not find the copy of the so called TES paperwork she had! I bet the D-team has that filed under the Liar category!  Statement! And for the record, Laura Buchanan is for the DEFENSE team, she is NOT on the STATES witness list!
-----------those are Humbles words above not mine.

---
Of course being the monkey that I am I chased her aol email. Found her myspace. Its not same one that was found a few days ago. This one is old. And she has lots of pics of herself.
Her only friend on her myspace is Caylee

her photos myspace: http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=423830905&albumId=1006704

her front page: http://www.myspace.com/423830905
not much there its just white
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 05, 2010, 08:20:15 PM

I think Lee already threw GA, CA and Casey under the bus when he requested immunity.  However ..Lee is a bit simple minded..so I think "he knows a lot about a lot of things"..but I don't think he knows to what extent GA and CA have lied to cover aide and abet their daughter's murderest acts.  I think Lee retreated long ago into a safe place in his mind...personally who can blame him.

I think her letters are going to tell a tale that she has been coached on by Baez.  They should be interesting.  I think he always planned that GA & CA would be outed.. Lee not so much.  It should be interesting to read about her lack of love life, her food preferences, her hate for MA and Pa ...and anyone else she felt inclined to include in her correspondence with her jailhouse penpal.

My theory has always been that KC was going to say that she left Caylee with GA on the day she left (or the night before with both of them) and she didn't know what happened after that. GA has already by his lies about seeing them that day, given her the opportunity to prove he was the last one to see her "if she didn't".............She could say she was out partying (which would make sense) because she had given Caylee to them and had no idea she was really missing. She refused to answer her phone when they called because she did not want to stop partying and have to come back and take care of Caylee.  When Cindy found her at Tony's that was the first she knew that Caylee was not with them. Then they told her they were going to have her prosecuted so she went along  with their "story" that she was kidnapped by the babysitter. During this they told her that she would not be prosecuted if the babysitter took Caylee and she believed them because they had always been able to get her out of trouble before.

That was why they made all the calls to LE in the beginning because they would have to hang up and get her quietened down to get the info out there they wanted LE to have. The threat about the car was to keep KC from telling the truth. Their "story" had to match so they told her not to tell anything. (remember she said she had not told LE anything when talking to the Anthony's) They told her to keep quiet and they would get her out of it and that is why they kept going on with all the "fake sightings" to cast doubt.

She could say that GA molested Caylee like he did her and during that accidentally killed her and she had no idea until 30 days later because she had given Caylee to them. GA has set himself up for all of this by the lies and the cover-ups (gas cans in trunk, etc.)

oh my goodness Turbo! that is brilliant thinking! this could be something that the defense could use to try to get her off! I hope that they don't read here cause they will pounce on this info straight away lol!

One lil glitch with that, Casey was driving around with her car not George, her cell phone backs that up.

Try this out..............But do we know if she was driving her car with Caylee in it knowingly? Remember her saying that GA "told" her she had hit a squirrel which was causing the smell?

GA and CA  both told that GA had the other set of keys and the body could have been put in the car when KC didn't know it. She opened the trunk when she smelled something and went into shock. She took the baby and put the heart sticker over the duct tape and buried her where she had buried her beloved pets.

Another option to that may be that GA didn't want to put the body in his new vehicle and put it in there to get rid of and KC unexpectedly came home and got the car. Evidently this had happened before because when they got the car for Amscot he took the battery out so she could not take it. Maybe the dates and the decomp rates are so confusing because the baby was put in a garbage bag and put in the freezer for a while until he could get a hold of KC's car.

I personally don't think any of this happened, but GA has set himself and maybe CA up for this because of their lies. A normal parent/grandparent would NEVER lie if they were truly searching for their child.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 05, 2010, 08:36:24 PM

oh my goodness Turbo! that is brilliant thinking! this could be something that the defense could use to try to get her off! I hope that they don't read here cause they will pounce on this info straight away lol!


In the back of their mind, they have to know that KC will do anything to get out of this, but I think they will totally be blindsided as to the full extent of what she is capable of doing. I think that is why she will not look at them in court procedings and of course they are so stupid they think it is because of Baez, when in reality it is part of a plan to make them look guilty and she is trying to look like the innocent who has lost her child because of them and then them letting her be charged to cover it up.

The entire scenario of CA trying to take over Caylee from KC will come into play. Her trying to take the spotlight, her lies, etc. KC may say that CA didn't know that KC didn't have Caylee because GA hid it from her too and that will fall right in line with all the other things he has hid from CA over the years. The affairs, the money, the gambling, etc.

I have honestly expected this from the beginning. The decomp the dogs hit on at the house would lead to the theory that "he" had to hide the body fast from CA at first until he could find somewhere to put her.  I think all the things are explainable by the defense through the lens of GA did it. I said in the beginning after GA told that story about seeing them that if I were the defense that would be what I would work toward because he put himself in the loop by that one lie.

It is the ONLY plausible reason KC could say she was out partying and never once was concerned about Caylee because she thought they had her. What is scary is it would all fall right in line with the big "fight" theory the night before which really never did mesh with her staying the night there and then getting up the next morning and all cheery with GA. At first he said he that he fed Caylee breakfast that morning he last saw her so  KC could say she went to Lee's after the fight with Cindy, was texting all night with Tony and had no idea what happened to Caylee after that fight with CA and never went back. Which as best I can tell she didn't if what GA told about seeing her was a lie as has been proved.

CA had no idea, so she "thought" she was covering for KC. Or, they could use that CA and GA both knew. Who knows what that psychotic bunch might use?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: loca on April 05, 2010, 08:57:30 PM
me still laughing thinking how nejame called baez lazy.
lol true though! baez is always wanting to have others do his work to save money.
makes me wonder if mason wasnt sitting there thinking to himself what an idiot baez is.
did you guys see where she put her hand over the microphone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 05, 2010, 08:58:48 PM
me still laughing thinking how nejame called baez lazy.
lol true though! baez is always wanting to have others do his work to save money.
makes me wonder if mason wasnt sitting there thinking to himself what an idiot baez is.
did you guys see where she put her hand over the microphone.

yes...yes...and yes...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: loca on April 05, 2010, 08:59:12 PM
::MonkeyDance:: What a day in court. Mark Najame did a great job.

When Bobo told Judge Strickland that Joe Joseph was to be in the court room ... on the fly right before everything got underway ..it struck me funny. I wonder if Bobo did talk to JJ's attorney and discussed with him that he may mention JJ in court today. That it was more or less a invitation for JJ to appear/yet was not necessary that he comply. Since he was not on the docket for today (( I am guessing)) something just did not set right with me on Bobo's comments. He said to J.Strickland well since we changed court rooms... as if that was the reason why JJ was not present. Strange.

Laura Buchanan I found this just a few moments ago. I don't know if someone has posted it here. Apparently she and JW have some thing in common. They have a thing for presidents of our country.
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://humbleopinionforum.net/2010/03/31/casey-anthony-convicted-felon-update-31-march-2010/

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laura Buchanan

Dear Mr. President,
I hope your feeling better now!! I met you at hillarys pres. run in Paris Kentucky at legion park. Thank you so much for taking the time to meet with the kids at the plyground area. You said to me when I got the pictures you would like me to send them too you but I don’t know how to do that. I am now living in Mendham nj.Who would have thought,right

laura Buchanan
Your the greatest!!

From what I can tell she claims to live in Mendham New Jersey.  And she is a fan of the old President.  Here is Buchanan’s signed statement, but I can not find the copy of the so called TES paperwork she had! I bet the D-team has that filed under the Liar category!  Statement! And for the record, Laura Buchanan is for the DEFENSE team, she is NOT on the STATES witness list!
-----------those are Humbles words above not mine.

---
Of course being the monkey that I am I chased her aol email. Found her myspace. Its not same one that was found a few days ago. This one is old. And she has lots of pics of herself.
Her only friend on her myspace is Caylee

her photos myspace: http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=423830905&albumId=1006704

her front page: http://www.myspace.com/423830905
not much there its just white
 

he sure did deenie! he showed his professionalism and intellect! which something that baez isnt familiar with.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: loca on April 05, 2010, 09:05:44 PM
oh capp
I cannot handle JVM she drives me crazy she has the nerve to say to someone on her panel
that the media should asked more agressive questions

hello  jane you idiot!
practice what you preach!
clearly the woman coddles baez as to not step on his toes.
take a damn hammer to his toes lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: loca on April 05, 2010, 09:11:25 PM
::MonkeyDance:: What a day in court. Mark Najame did a great job.

When Bobo told Judge Strickland that Joe Joseph was to be in the court room ... on the fly right before everything got underway ..it struck me funny. I wonder if Bobo did talk to JJ's attorney and discussed with him that he may mention JJ in court today. That it was more or less a invitation for JJ to appear/yet was not necessary that he comply. Since he was not on the docket for today (( I am guessing)) something just did not set right with me on Bobo's comments. He said to J.Strickland well since we changed court rooms... as if that was the reason why JJ was not present. Strange.

Laura Buchanan I found this just a few moments ago. I don't know if someone has posted it here. Apparently she and JW have some thing in common. They have a thing for presidents of our country.
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://humbleopinionforum.net/2010/03/31/casey-anthony-convicted-felon-update-31-march-2010/

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laura Buchanan

Dear Mr. President,
I hope your feeling better now!! I met you at hillarys pres. run in Paris Kentucky at legion park. Thank you so much for taking the time to meet with the kids at the plyground area. You said to me when I got the pictures you would like me to send them too you but I don’t know how to do that. I am now living in Mendham nj.Who would have thought,right

laura Buchanan
Your the greatest!!

From what I can tell she claims to live in Mendham New Jersey.  And she is a fan of the old President.  Here is Buchanan’s signed statement, but I can not find the copy of the so called TES paperwork she had! I bet the D-team has that filed under the Liar category!  Statement! And for the record, Laura Buchanan is for the DEFENSE team, she is NOT on the STATES witness list!
-----------those are Humbles words above not mine.

---
Of course being the monkey that I am I chased her aol email. Found her myspace. Its not same one that was found a few days ago. This one is old. And she has lots of pics of herself.
Her only friend on her myspace is Caylee

her photos myspace: http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=423830905&albumId=1006704

her front page: http://www.myspace.com/423830905
not much there its just white
 

he sure did deenie! he showed his professionalism and intellect! which something that baez isnt familiar with.

funny tooo that baez was out numbered
in stepped linda b lmao along with nejame ! they  did such a good job.  how can baez be allowed to act like that in court smirking and outright  juvenile. and inmature  makes me sick!! and baez with those stupid comments on tv! saying that nejame was hiding something like what are they afraid of. In court let me tell you the state is going to make a fool out of baez he is no match. He will stumble and drool all over himself. He has no idea what he is in for!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 05, 2010, 09:29:44 PM
Loca
Between babbling Bobo and Mason ...that Man is so hard to follow. Half the time I can't understand what he says. He sounds like he is talking in riddles. He is a far cry from Andy Griffith " Matlock"......
I wonder too " Northern " mentioned it. If they are going backseat Bobo and let Mason take over. That the Women are going to bow out from the Duhfence team. I don't know how the citizens of Florida actually can take all of this. Or how much longer they will stand for it.. Maybe they will boycott the court house. The money wasted is unbelievable. And its all because of Bobo.  :clown:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 05, 2010, 09:41:05 PM

oh my goodness Turbo! that is brilliant thinking! this could be something that the defense could use to try to get her off! I hope that they don't read here cause they will pounce on this info straight away lol!


In the back of their mind, they have to know that KC will do anything to get out of this, but I think they will totally be blindsided as to the full extent of what she is capable of doing. I think that is why she will not look at them in court procedings and of course they are so stupid they think it is because of Baez, when in reality it is part of a plan to make them look guilty and she is trying to look like the innocent who has lost her child because of them and then them letting her be charged to cover it up.

The entire scenario of CA trying to take over Caylee from KC will come into play. Her trying to take the spotlight, her lies, etc. KC may say that CA didn't know that KC didn't have Caylee because GA hid it from her too and that will fall right in line with all the other things he has hid from CA over the years. The affairs, the money, the gambling, etc.

I have honestly expected this from the beginning. The decomp the dogs hit on at the house would lead to the theory that "he" had to hide the body fast from CA at first until he could find somewhere to put her.  I think all the things are explainable by the defense through the lens of GA did it. I said in the beginning after GA told that story about seeing them that if I were the defense that would be what I would work toward because he put himself in the loop by that one lie.

It is the ONLY plausible reason KC could say she was out partying and never once was concerned about Caylee because she thought they had her. What is scary is it would all fall right in line with the big "fight" theory the night before which really never did mesh with her staying the night there and then getting up the next morning and all cheery with GA. At first he said he that he fed Caylee breakfast that morning he last saw her so  KC could say she went to Lee's after the fight with Cindy, was texting all night with Tony and had no idea what happened to Caylee after that fight with CA and never went back. Which as best I can tell she didn't if what GA told about seeing her was a lie as has been proved.

CA had no idea, so she "thought" she was covering for KC. Or, they could use that CA and GA both knew. Who knows what that psychotic bunch might use?

The upcoming trial with Zenaida & Mr. Morgan will somewhat re-arrange the chessmen on the board to an interesting degree.   That is the beauty of Mr. Morgan's litigation---it has deftly left all of the wicked liars' sails  limply flapping in the wind so far.   And they've grown nervous having to wait at water's edge to see just what the winds will dictate from that trial.  I think it's going to be really interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on April 05, 2010, 09:47:07 PM
In the beginning while watching the early court hearings KC’s fidgeting seemed like a bad case of nerves or the like to me. But today I believe I finally saw through her constant grooming and her picking at the invisible lint and examining of the hands and nails, the gleeful rubbing of the hands together like she is starved and getting ready to eat with great hunger. No, now I do not see nerves, what I see is almost too horrible to comprehend. She is reveling at being the center of attention. The fake acts of grooming and such are to draw even more attention to her. She wants all eyes on her and draws us in with her contortions. She is preening for the audience and putting on a show for us.
It appears quite obvious to me that KC is actually enjoying being the star in her own reality show. The whole nation is watching and is centered on her. An army of attorneys fit for a queen at her beck and call. She is receiving the attention she has always so richly deserved. She has found the fame she always coveted, the special notice she has searched for her entire life. In her tiny warped mind she sees herself as famous rather than infamous, as anything negative could never apply to her. She is playing the part of a lifetime, a brave woman wrongly accused. She has played one part or another all her life, an actress, a chameleon, she has never been a genuine person. She isn’t capable of it because she has no sense of her own identity. She waits for the next act just to see who she will be this time. She thinks she hit the big time with this role but it is destined to be her swan song and it didn’t come soon enough.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 05, 2010, 10:20:07 PM
In the beginning while watching the early court hearings KC’s fidgeting seemed like a bad case of nerves or the like to me. But today I believe I finally saw through her constant grooming and her picking at the invisible lint and examining of the hands and nails, the gleeful rubbing of the hands together like she is starved and getting ready to eat with great hunger. No, now I do not see nerves, what I see is almost too horrible to comprehend. She is reveling at being the center of attention. The fake acts of grooming and such are to draw even more attention to her. She wants all eyes on her and draws us in with her contortions. She is preening for the audience and putting on a show for us.
It appears quite obvious to me that KC is actually enjoying being the star in her own reality show. The whole nation is watching and is centered on her. An army of attorneys fit for a queen at her beck and call. She is receiving the attention she has always so richly deserved. She has found the fame she always coveted, the special notice she has searched for her entire life. In her tiny warped mind she sees herself as famous rather than infamous, as anything negative could never apply to her. She is playing the part of a lifetime, a brave woman wrongly accused. She has played one part or another all her life, an actress, a chameleon, she has never been a genuine person. She isn’t capable of it because she has no sense of her own identity. She waits for the next act just to see who she will be this time. She thinks she hit the big time with this role but it is destined to be her swan song and it didn’t come soon enough.

N I could not have said that better myself. When she was reading the paperwork in front of her. She looked as if she was reading " about someone else" not of her. I saw her pandering to the camera as well today. I even said it out loud. " Its all about You Casey- Just You" Your dream finally came true. Tomorrow if the letters are released. It will be more than telling I think. The one thing that sticks out the most is Baez not saying a word. He has had the time to attempt to stop the release of them. He did not bat an eye. Nor create any motions out of thin air. He obviously read them. I would love to know if Bobo was aware at the time Casey was writing them. That he would or could have planted seeds in her mind ... " not literally telling her what to write" that would be illegal cough.. but if he gave her enough so that she had options, to way over, while writing. Something is not right, Casey seems overtly confident, she is losing weight, she doesn't appear to have worry in the world these last two court sessions.
I think that this Jail guard was punked not only by Casey but by Bobo too. I wonder if this jail guard gave Bobo special privileges during the times he was alone with Casey. ** I am not speaking of sex or anything. But that this guard could have let anything slide. She obviously was not to be trusted. What else does Casey know this guard allowed Casey to get away with. Casey does relish this too tomorrow " She can't wait for the World to read her letters". Everyone will want to read my letters...  I can hear the mouse wheel turning in her head...as she penned her papers.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Curly on April 05, 2010, 10:23:41 PM
I saw the bracelet on George Marie's arm. It was white with lettering. Hospital bands are usually transparent so I personally don't think it was a hospital bracelet.

My hard drive crashed on my Mac and it has to be replaced.
When I got home from work, I turned on my window's laptop to watch the hearing. I lost the speaker drivers and was on the phone with Toshiba for an hour so I just go finished watching it.

I can't understand why Strickland didn't make the ruling in court. I mean, he was practically rolling his eyes. I guess he couldn't bear to hear nay more whining from Bozo. I can barely understand anything Mason is saying. At least he didn't do his old man shtick today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: luvmyboys on April 05, 2010, 10:32:58 PM
hi all...i have a question please don't think i am stupid. but is the reason that they are wanting all of the names of the people because they are trying to see if roy cronk was one of the volunteers..and they are going to try to pin this on him..saying what he was really doing was looking for somewhere to put her? don't shoot me just seeing what you all think


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 05, 2010, 10:44:38 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/casey-anthony-jail-letters-to.html
WDBO Local News      
Casey Anthony jail letters to be released Tuesday
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ April 6, 2010 5:00 AM Permalink | Comments (0)
We'll get a glimpse into Casey Anthony's life in behind bars Tuesday with the expected release of letters that the accused child killer wrote to another inmate.

Orange County Investigators say a corrections officer helped Casey pass more than 250 pages of letters to Robyn Adams, the wife of a former Altamonte Springs police officer, who was in jail for helping her husband sell grow and pot

"You are going to find, if you look at them in context, a person who's locked up 23 hours a day," defense attorney Jose Baez said Monday.

Casey's defense had 15 days to fight release of the letters but chose not to.

"We have nothing to hide," Baez said.

The corrections officer who helped them communicate has been suspended with pay for breaking jail protocol.

OMG  a  double dose week!   Now this should be interesting to look inside the mind of a sociopath murdering ho ho ho cooped up for all eternity.

O/T hearing on MJ case coming up, HLN will be covering it

Just musing here....the ugly sour looks on the A's faces today...would it have anything to do with what's written in KC's notes??   ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Curly on April 05, 2010, 10:49:00 PM
That would be nice if that's why they looked so bitter today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 05, 2010, 10:54:03 PM

The upcoming trial with Zenaida & Mr. Morgan will somewhat re-arrange the chessmen on the board to an interesting degree.   That is the beauty of Mr. Morgan's litigation---it has deftly left all of the wicked liars' sails  limply flapping in the wind so far.   And they've grown nervous having to wait at water's edge to see just what the winds will dictate from that trial.  I think it's going to be really interesting.

You are SO RIGHT !!!! I had not even thought about that....good observation.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 05, 2010, 10:56:49 PM

The upcoming trial with Zenaida & Mr. Morgan will somewhat re-arrange the chessmen on the board to an interesting degree.   That is the beauty of Mr. Morgan's litigation---it has deftly left all of the wicked liars' sails  limply flapping in the wind so far.   And they've grown nervous having to wait at water's edge to see just what the winds will dictate from that trial.  I think it's going to be really interesting.

You are SO RIGHT !!!! I had not even thought about that....good observation.

I think it will be one of the most delicious happenings to come from this terrible event.  ::MonkeyCool::


When in May?

 


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Post by: Brandi on April 06, 2010, 12:03:25 AM

The upcoming trial with Zenaida & Mr. Morgan will somewhat re-arrange the chessmen on the board to an interesting degree.   That is the beauty of Mr. Morgan's litigation---it has deftly left all of the wicked liars' sails  limply flapping in the wind so far.   And they've grown nervous having to wait at water's edge to see just what the winds will dictate from that trial.  I think it's going to be really interesting.

You are SO RIGHT !!!! I had not even thought about that....good observation.

I think it will be one of the most delicious happenings to come from this terrible event.  ::MonkeyCool::


When in May?

 

June 7.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 02:02:19 AM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/casey-anthony-jail-letters-to.html
WDBO Local News      
Casey Anthony jail letters to be released Tuesday
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ April 6, 2010 5:00 AM Permalink | Comments (0)
We'll get a glimpse into Casey Anthony's life in behind bars Tuesday with the expected release of letters that the accused child killer wrote to another inmate.

Orange County Investigators say a corrections officer helped Casey pass more than 250 pages of letters to Robyn Adams, the wife of a former Altamonte Springs police officer, who was in jail for helping her husband sell grow and pot

"You are going to find, if you look at them in context, a person who's locked up 23 hours a day," defense attorney Jose Baez said Monday.

Casey's defense had 15 days to fight release of the letters but chose not to.

"We have nothing to hide," Baez said.

The corrections officer who helped them communicate has been suspended with pay for breaking jail protocol.

OMG  a  double dose week!   Now this should be interesting to look inside the mind of a sociopath murdering ho ho ho cooped up for all eternity.

O/T hearing on MJ case coming up, HLN will be covering it

Just musing here....the ugly sour looks on the A's faces today...would it have anything to do with what's written in KC's notes??   ::MonkeyTongue::



I would imagine they are fully aware that they were going to lose this motion today & are probably freakin out that it will all lead back to them.    Even Casey's eyes bulged when LB was being discussed in the hearing today.   I also agree that they have to be pretty dang nervous what their sociopath monster is going to ramble about in those letters.

Today's proceedings has filled my head with an entire flashback of this case  & a total resurgence of frustration that we have to wait so long for justice to be served for Caylee.  There is no doubt in my mind that Cindy confronted Casey on the evening of June 15th as she was seething after having to beg/argue with Shirley not to press charges against Casey for yet again stealing from her grandparents (via Shirley's statements & reports from the neighbor that there was a loud argument).   I believe Cindy threatened to get custody of Caylee & Casey threatened her mother back...from there Caylee was the innocent victim at the hands of the devil's sister & her spawn.   If one looks at each time Cindy was confronted with if they had an argument her face gets contorted with contempt & a failed attempt at deception.  Cindy knows what her last words to Casey were before Caylee was killed, she knows down deep that she used Caylee as a weapon against Casey & Casey used Caylee as a weapon against her mother.

I believe George lied about seeing Casey & Caylee the next day around lunchtime & the evening before he was not at home until 10-11PM because he was working, which has been/can be verified.   I would not be shocked that Casey drowned Caylee because that was the last place she knew her to be enjoying time with her grandmother before she got home the evening of the 15th.  I'd be very curious for forensic specialists to somehow simulate a child drowning & then being placed in a trunk bagged to see what it would emit over time.   The only thing that stops me from this method of murder is Casey's computer searches regarding chloroform & neck breaking months prior to Caylee being killed.  The reason I revisit this is because of the statements George made that Cindy called him why the gate was open & the pool ladder moved.  If this took place it might explain Casey's flurry of cell pings on the 16th, but I would have to look back to see if those times would have been when George reported that he normally went to work after his cooking show because surely even Casey wouldnt have been bold enough to do it in the dark of night with her parents in the house.  I think afterwards Casey used items that belonged to Caylee from home that a "nanny" might have & did what she did to make it look like an abduction/murder.  She made one huge mistake, the heart sticker - a stranger, a nanny not even a grandparent would commit that final act of placing that sticker over a triple wrap of duct tape over this sweet child's mouth & nose - I would venture to project that most psychologists would tend to agree that this act would more likely be by a parent that killed their child.  Another reason why the heartshaped sticker leads right to Casey is because she was a known fan of scrapbooking as well as taking photographs & many stickers were taken right from her room into evidence.   Cindy's 7/3 myspace entry "my Caylee is missing" tells the truth of what happened, Casey took off with Caylee never to be seen again & Cindy knew something was terribly wrong & she frantically called Casey's friends & had Lee looking for her, when she smelt that car she knew Casey did the unthinkable & she feels responsible that her threat was the trigger.   This trigger not being the first time a dysfunctional self-absorbed woman made against a daughter.   Don't get me wrong if most of us had a son/daughter that acted out like Casey we'd be inclined to reprimand & threaten to do something about it, the difference is most of us would have done something constructive, seek professional assistance & stick to it.   Cindy lashed out at Casey but concealed how evil she was to the world then repeating a cycle of ridicule, threats & then protecting time in and time out because having it be common knowledge was what Cindy dreaded more than facing the truth & dealing with Casey's ongoing & escalating antisocial behavioral pattern.    This pattern is repeated by Cindy even with her dead beat husband, to her its all about appearances.    It is also my belief that Cindy takes some twisted pleasure in Casey providing her the avenue to play victim.   Like mother, like daughter they both strive for attention & living in a world in their minds that is all about them, they do not care how that attention is obtained.   Casey has absolute contempt for her parents, that is clear so I do not believe for one minute that she would take the fall as she has if her parents (or anyone actually) were responsible in any manner for Caylee's death.   I equally believe wholeheartedly that if she could she would indeed pin Caylee's murder on them in a heart beat.  Casey's behavior in court for several hearings now indicates a few things 1) she is indeed a sociopath with narcissistic tendencies 2) she loathes her parents & will not give them the time of day, not even a glance.   Casey is fully aware of how her parents have been accessories after the fact to conceal her crime, the lies they've told - the fact is she just doesnt care about anyone but herself.    I also think that the statement that Casey made in defiance & contempt for what her mother was going to do regarding Caylee's cremation & subsequent memorial was her way of letting her parents know she was done with them.  I dont think Cindy & George have been all this time worried about the media or anyone hearing their visits, I think Casey refuses to see them.  This thought may be affirmed by the fact that Lyons made it known that she felt Casey should see her parents, it still has not transpired, a year and a half later that she has been incarcerated after indictment.  At trial its a reasonable expectation that Casey thru her defense team will be painted as a victim of her parents "abuse" & after the evidence stacks up against her at that point all her defense team will be left to do is drive that concept into the ground hoping to spare her despicable life.   While I may have a tinge of empathy that Casey & Lee had the parents they did, it does not excuse what Casey did as an adult that could have chose a host of other options to get away from this toxicity...just trust me how deeply I know this both personally & thru experience I've had with my work history.    O my, this went a tad bit long....I'll say goodnight & cyas tomorrow for another busy day when we get to read Casey's jail penpal correspondence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 07:03:25 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/23064066/detail.html
Casey Anthony Jailhouse Letters May Be Revealed
24-Year-Old Charged With Daughter's Death
ORLANDO, Fla. --
Secret letters written by Casey Anthony will come to light Tuesday.

The 24-year-old passed along letters to fellow inmate Robyn Adams, who Anthony's defense team is calling a jailhouse snitch.

"Jailhouse snitches are a big problem. They lie to benefit themselves," Orlando defense attorney Richard Hornsby said.

Anthony was able to exchange around 50 letters with the woman.

The letters offer a first glimpse into Anthony's life in jail. She is being held at the Orange County Jail on no bond charged with murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee Marie Anthony. Caylee's remains were found in a wooded area off Suburban Drive near the Anthony family home in December 2008. The young mother maintains a nanny by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee.

According to court papers, there are 258 pages believed to be hand written by Anthony.

"The amount of notes isn't very shocking," Hornsby said
A jailhouse investigation revealed a correctional officer delivered the letters between the two women from their cell.

Jose Baez, Anthony's lead attorney, did not object to the release of these letters because he said there was nothing incriminating in them, but apparently Anthony spends a lot of time bashing her parents, George and Cindy Anthony.

Prosecutors most likely will use these letters against Anthony in her murder case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 07:10:22 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/040610-casey-anthony
Casey Anthony jail house letters to be released

Updated: Tuesday, 06 Apr 2010, 6:45 AM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 06 Apr 2010, 5:49 AM EDT

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Today we're waiting to get some jail house letters that Casey Anthony wrote to other inmates.

Anthony wrote roughly 50 letters to another inmate in the Orange County jail. Her defense isn't fighting to keep the letters from becoming public.

“We're not concerned with anything in there. There's no admissions," said Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez.

But sources say there are harsh words.

Sources tell FOX 35 that Anthony’s parents might not want to look at the letters. Apparently their daughter isn't very kind to them.

“If we move to keep them private, you guys are going to speculate all over them about what's in there," said Baez.

Anthony remains in protective custody in a solitary cell. She’s only let out for minimal amounts of time and, according to jail policy, is not supposed to have communication with other inmates.
You’ll find if you look at them in context they are of a person locked up 23 hours a day. We have nothing to hide with those letters," said Baez.
<snipped>



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 07:18:02 AM
Issues 4/5/10 Casey Anthony
http://www.youtube.com/v/qnoAq7wxxa8&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b


Issues Transcripts 04/05/2010
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/05/ijvm.01.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Tevye on April 06, 2010, 07:52:43 AM


Just musing here....the ugly sour looks on the A's faces today...would it have anything to do with what's written in KC's notes??   ::MonkeyTongue::


I SO hope it's just pages and pages of "I hate my parents...I wanna go to Fusion" over and over again! ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 08:11:55 AM


Just musing here....the ugly sour looks on the A's faces today...would it have anything to do with what's written in KC's notes??   ::MonkeyTongue::


I SO hope it's just pages and pages of "I hate my parents...I wanna go to Fusion" over and over again! ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyJnBox::  bring on the drivel.......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 06, 2010, 08:19:16 AM
Excellent news, now bring on the notes  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyGavel::   I agree.     Let's see what the propaganda notes have to say!     ::MonkeyRoll:: 
Yes, mommy did this and daddy did this, and they were so mean. And Lee he tried to molest me. And Caylee how I love her.

No doubt....    Bozo wants them put out there for a reason.    ::MonkeyNoNo::

I think it was reported by a media rep that claims to have seen some of the letters that Caylee was never mentioned.  Bozo said on Insessions that some of what Casey said will be scrutinized but there is no confession.

Wow.   Its hard to understand why she would never mention Caylee.   Also, hard to understand why Bozo would allow them to be put out there - because it will be another glimpse into the real KC character.   Unless, of course, he told her what to write in them.    Can't wait to read them!

It is easy for me to understand. In Casey's eyes, this is all about Casey...not about Caylee. Once the child was dead, the child never existed.  She hasn't talked about Caylee since day one. It's all about CASEY.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 08:30:43 AM

Prosecutors want transcripts of an August hearing where one of Casey Anthony's defense attorneys announced her innocence in court.

Assistant State Attorney Linda Drane Burdick wants the transcripts for the two-hour hearing on Aug. 21, 2009. She doesn't explain in her one-page request filed Monday why the state seeks the information.

Anthony, 24, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. The 2-year-old's remains were found in woods less than a mile from her family home in December 2008.

At the August hearing, attorney Todd Macaluso, who is no longer a member of the defense team, announced in court: "The body or remains of Caylee Anthony were placed there after Anthony was locked up in the Orange County facility."

The defense at the time wouldn't go into details about what evidence they had. Macaluso's statement was part of the defense's request to obtain records from Texas EquuSearch, the volunteer group that helped search for Caylee.

The group claims there was too much flooding in the area and they could not search the exact location where Caylee was later found.

Copyright © 2010, Orlando Sentinel

Good Morning Monks!  thanks trim..............ummmmm I wondered what the request for the transcript was.....I wonder what LDB has up her smart sleeve.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 08:32:49 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23064461/detail.html
Anthony's Jail Letters To Be Released
Defense Opts Not To Fight Release

POSTED: Tuesday, April 6, 2010
UPDATED: 8:10 am EDT April 6,2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Pen pal letters between Casey Anthony and another inmate at the Orange County Jail are expected to be released to the public today.

The state attorney's office is expected to release more than 250 pages of letters between Anthony and inmate Robyn Adams as early as this morning.

Anthony's attorneys were given a chance to fight their release, but announced Monday that they had chosen not to.

State prosecutors have said the letters contain information that is relevant to the murder case against Anthony, but do not contain a confession.

Anthony, 24, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee Anthony. Caylee was 2 years old when she was reported missing in July 2008. Her remains were found in December 2008.

Anthony and Adams exchanged more than 50 notes while in protective custody at the jail, a classification intended to prevent inmates from communicating with each other.

The letters were possibly passed with the help of a corrections officer.
Adams is now in federal prison serving a 10-year sentence for possession of marijuana.

Anthony is being held at the jail on no bond pending trial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 08:36:10 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
Jose Baez’s Theory of Relativity..and his pictures to prove it

Posted on April 6th, 2010 by Valhall


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 08:42:19 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/23064066/detail.html
Casey Anthony Jailhouse Letters May Be Revealed
24-Year-Old Charged With Daughter's Death

POSTED: 5:57 am EDT April 6, 2010
UPDATED: 7:42 am EDT April 6, 2010
<snipped>
Jose Baez, Anthony's lead attorney, did not object to the release of these letters because he said there was nothing incriminating in them, but apparently Anthony spends a lot of time bashing her parents, George and Cindy Anthony.

Prosecutors most likely will use these letters against Anthony in her murder case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 08:48:28 AM
In the beginning while watching the early court hearings KC’s fidgeting seemed like a bad case of nerves or the like to me. But today I believe I finally saw through her constant grooming and her picking at the invisible lint and examining of the hands and nails, the gleeful rubbing of the hands together like she is starved and getting ready to eat with great hunger. No, now I do not see nerves, what I see is almost too horrible to comprehend. She is reveling at being the center of attention. The fake acts of grooming and such are to draw even more attention to her. She wants all eyes on her and draws us in with her contortions. She is preening for the audience and putting on a show for us.
It appears quite obvious to me that KC is actually enjoying being the star in her own reality show. The whole nation is watching and is centered on her. An army of attorneys fit for a queen at her beck and call. She is receiving the attention she has always so richly deserved. She has found the fame she always coveted, the special notice she has searched for her entire life. In her tiny warped mind she sees herself as famous rather than infamous, as anything negative could never apply to her. She is playing the part of a lifetime, a brave woman wrongly accused. She has played one part or another all her life, an actress, a chameleon, she has never been a genuine person. She isn’t capable of it because she has no sense of her own identity. She waits for the next act just to see who she will be this time. She thinks she hit the big time with this role but it is destined to be her swan song and it didn’t come soon enough.


N2, I agree....she is really loving being the star...JMO but I think in here mind she believes she will never be convicted and she is probably writing a book/movie about her 'ordeal' and when she walks out of court on BOZO and Mason's arm she will sell her story and star in her own movie.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 08:54:09 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/040610-casey-anthony
Casey Anthony jail house letters to be released

Updated: Tuesday, 06 Apr 2010, 6:45 AM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 06 Apr 2010, 5:49 AM EDT

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Today we're waiting to get some jail house letters that Casey Anthony wrote to other inmates.

Anthony wrote roughly 50 letters to another inmate in the Orange County jail. Her defense isn't fighting to keep the letters from becoming public.

“We're not concerned with anything in there. There's no admissions," said Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez.

But sources say there are harsh words.

Sources tell FOX 35 that Anthony’s parents might not want to look at the letters. Apparently their daughter isn't very kind to them.

“If we move to keep them private, you guys are going to speculate all over them about what's in there," said Baez.

Anthony remains in protective custody in a solitary cell. She’s only let out for minimal amounts of time and, according to jail policy, is not supposed to have communication with other inmates.
You’ll find if you look at them in context they are of a person locked up 23 hours a day. We have nothing to hide with those letters," said Baez.
<snipped>


oh boy. oh boy. oh boy............her commissary account might get slimmer after these letters become public!!! ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 09:00:23 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-letters-20100406,0,5704019.story
Prosecutors today could release letters Casey Anthony exchanged with convicted drug dealer
Some news reports show the letters include criticism of her parents, George and Cindy Anthony.

By Walter Pacheco, Orlando Sentinel
8:49 a.m. EDT, April 6, 2010
The State Attorney's Office today could release some of the 258 pages of notes and letters Casey Anthony wrote to a female drug dealer she had met at the Orange County Jail.

Officials said the contents of the letters do not contain a confession, but a report on WESH.com shows the letters exchanged with the inmate include negative comments about her parents, George and Cindy Anthony.

The Florida Department of Law Enforcement conducted an investigation into whether any Orange County Jail corrections officers violated regulations by helping the women communicate. An FDLE spokeswoman said in an earlier interview that the results of that probe were handed over to the Orange-Osceola State Attorney's Office.

Those letters could be used as evidence against Anthony. The 24-year-old is accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Marie Anthony. The child's remains were found in December 2008 not far from the home she shared with her grandparents.

Anthony is being held at the Orange County Jail under a protective-custody status, which prohibits her from directly communicating with other inmates.

"While there is no way to prevent inmates in adjacent cells from having fleeting communications, the passing of notes is something that would not be permitted," jail spokesman Allen Moore said.

FDLE investigators had said the inmate who received the notes, Robyn Adams, told agents she did not want to "get anyone in trouble," but said a county corrections officer may have helped the women stay in touch, according to prosecution records.
More said Orange County Jail officials launched their own investigation into the allegations and relieved corrections officer Silvia Hernandez of duty with pay in March.

"It's not uncommon to place employees on that status when investigating allegations," Moore said today. Moore also said the investigation is still active and did not confirm if Hernandez had been involved in the exchange of letters.

Hernandez, who has been with the jail for less than two years, is still an active Orange County employee; however, records show she turned in her badge and is prohibited from carrying a weapon pending the outcome of the investigation.
Officials first heard about the letters and notes after another female inmate — this one in state custody —contacted the Orange County Sheriff's Office, saying she, too, had communications with Anthony while in jail.

Orange Circuit Judge Stan Strickland had placed the letters under seal, ruling that defense attorneys should have at least 15 days to review them without the public knowing their contents.

Anthony's lead defense attorney, Jose Baez, said Monday he did not object to their release.

Anthony has been in the Orange County Jail since July 16, 2008. She is being held in a protective custody status which means she cannot directly communicate with other inmates.

Reports show Adams, the wife of a former Altamonte Springs police officer, currently is in a minimum security federal prison in Tallahassee. Adams had met Anthony at the Orange County Jail because she was also in protective custody because of her husband's law-enforcement status.

Adams and her husband were arrested in July 2008, after erecting a marijuana grow house in Chuluota. The couple intended to grow 2,000 pounds of pot, according to federal court records. She pleaded guilty to conspiracy and a weapons count and was sentenced to 10 years in prison in 2009.

Rene Stutzman of the Sentinel staff contributed to this report.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 09:01:36 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
Jose Baez’s Theory of Relativity..and his pictures to prove it

Posted on April 6th, 2010 by Valhall

thanks trim..........gee, I hope BOZO reads this one and copies the map!! ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on April 06, 2010, 09:06:18 AM



N2, I agree....she is really loving being the star...JMO but I think in here mind she believes she will never be convicted and she is probably writing a book/movie about her 'ordeal' and when she walks out of court on BOZO and Mason's arm she will sell her story and star in her own movie.
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I have known people that believe their own lies but never anything even close to KC’s delusional thoughts and actions. She really does take it to another dimension. I think you may be right that she fancies herself her own leading lady in a tale of heroine overcoming the odds and winning the day. Luckily, she does know right from wrong, even if it comes from her own alternate reality.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 09:18:12 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
Jose Baez’s Theory of Relativity..and his pictures to prove it

Posted on April 6th, 2010 by Valhall

thanks trim..........gee, I hope BOZO reads this one and copies the map!! ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 09:34:56 AM
Sources tell FOX 35 that Anthony’s parents might not want to look at the letters. Apparently their daughter isn't very kind to them.   ::MonkeyTongue::Go figure that is what is in the letters. And that is why it is okay for the defense to let people read them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 09:41:16 AM
Sources tell FOX 35 that Anthony’s parents might not want to look at the letters. Apparently their daughter isn't very kind to them.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Go figure that is what is in the letters. And that is why it is okay for the defense to let people read them.


Good Morning.............yeppers!!  No wonder the A's have been like moles............ ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on April 06, 2010, 09:45:08 AM

oh my goodness Turbo! that is brilliant thinking! this could be something that the defense could use to try to get her off! I hope that they don't read here cause they will pounce on this info straight away lol!


In the back of their mind, they have to know that KC will do anything to get out of this, but I think they will totally be blindsided as to the full extent of what she is capable of doing. I think that is why she will not look at them in court procedings and of course they are so stupid they think it is because of Baez, when in reality it is part of a plan to make them look guilty and she is trying to look like the innocent who has lost her child because of them and then them letting her be charged to cover it up.

The entire scenario of CA trying to take over Caylee from KC will come into play. Her trying to take the spotlight, her lies, etc. KC may say that CA didn't know that KC didn't have Caylee because GA hid it from her too and that will fall right in line with all the other things he has hid from CA over the years. The affairs, the money, the gambling, etc.

I have honestly expected this from the beginning. The decomp the dogs hit on at the house would lead to the theory that "he" had to hide the body fast from CA at first until he could find somewhere to put her.  I think all the things are explainable by the defense through the lens of GA did it. I said in the beginning after GA told that story about seeing them that if I were the defense that would be what I would work toward because he put himself in the loop by that one lie.

It is the ONLY plausible reason KC could say she was out partying and never once was concerned about Caylee because she thought they had her. What is scary is it would all fall right in line with the big "fight" theory the night before which really never did mesh with her staying the night there and then getting up the next morning and all cheery with GA. At first he said he that he fed Caylee breakfast that morning he last saw her so  KC could say she went to Lee's after the fight with Cindy, was texting all night with Tony and had no idea what happened to Caylee after that fight with CA and never went back. Which as best I can tell she didn't if what GA told about seeing her was a lie as has been proved.

CA had no idea, so she "thought" she was covering for KC. Or, they could use that CA and GA both knew. Who knows what that psychotic bunch might use?

How can the defense bring all this up in court without putting Casey on the stand?  I don't think they will put her on the stand because she would not stand up to the State's cross exam...she can't keep her lies straight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 09:46:14 AM
Sources tell FOX 35 that Anthony’s parents might not want to look at the letters. Apparently their daughter isn't very kind to them.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Go figure that is what is in the letters. And that is why it is okay for the defense to let people read them.


Good Morning.............yeppers!!  No wonder the A's have been like moles............ ::MonkeyJnBox::
Good morning, bet the Anthonys won't be to pleased with this  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I'm still reeling from yesterday when Baez did that mocking voice like a little kid, WTH, like a kid on a playground that got his ball taken away.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Tevye on April 06, 2010, 09:53:49 AM
Sources tell FOX 35 that Anthony’s parents might not want to look at the letters. Apparently their daughter isn't very kind to them.   ::MonkeyTongue::Go figure that is what is in the letters. And that is why it is okay for the defense to let people read them.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 09:56:01 AM
Sources tell FOX 35 that Anthony’s parents might not want to look at the letters. Apparently their daughter isn't very kind to them.   ::MonkeyTongue::Go figure that is what is in the letters. And that is why it is okay for the defense to let people read them.

Absoflippinlutely, you'd think they'd get a hint by her not even looking at them...geez   It will be interesting to read this sociopath's take on her family dynamic.   I refuse to feel sorry for her one bit for her actions as an adult but seriously who wouldnt understand the agony of being born to scum like her parents.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on April 06, 2010, 09:56:29 AM

oh my goodness Turbo! that is brilliant thinking! this could be something that the defense could use to try to get her off! I hope that they don't read here cause they will pounce on this info straight away lol!


In the back of their mind, they have to know that KC will do anything to get out of this, but I think they will totally be blindsided as to the full extent of what she is capable of doing. I think that is why she will not look at them in court procedings and of course they are so stupid they think it is because of Baez, when in reality it is part of a plan to make them look guilty and she is trying to look like the innocent who has lost her child because of them and then them letting her be charged to cover it up.

The entire scenario of CA trying to take over Caylee from KC will come into play. Her trying to take the spotlight, her lies, etc. KC may say that CA didn't know that KC didn't have Caylee because GA hid it from her too and that will fall right in line with all the other things he has hid from CA over the years. The affairs, the money, the gambling, etc.

I have honestly expected this from the beginning. The decomp the dogs hit on at the house would lead to the theory that "he" had to hide the body fast from CA at first until he could find somewhere to put her.  I think all the things are explainable by the defense through the lens of GA did it. I said in the beginning after GA told that story about seeing them that if I were the defense that would be what I would work toward because he put himself in the loop by that one lie.

It is the ONLY plausible reason KC could say she was out partying and never once was concerned about Caylee because she thought they had her. What is scary is it would all fall right in line with the big "fight" theory the night before which really never did mesh with her staying the night there and then getting up the next morning and all cheery with GA. At first he said he that he fed Caylee breakfast that morning he last saw her so  KC could say she went to Lee's after the fight with Cindy, was texting all night with Tony and had no idea what happened to Caylee after that fight with CA and never went back. Which as best I can tell she didn't if what GA told about seeing her was a lie as has been proved.

CA had no idea, so she "thought" she was covering for KC. Or, they could use that CA and GA both knew. Who knows what that psychotic bunch might use?

How can the defense bring all this up in court without putting Casey on the stand?  I don't think they will put her on the stand because she would not stand up to the State's cross exam...she can't keep her lies straight.

Even Cheney Mason ( before he was hired by Baez) said "there is no way they could ever put her on the stand, there's just too much to cross examine her on".  I wish they would, it would be great to see her finally get her comeuppance from the SA... ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on April 06, 2010, 09:58:23 AM
Sources tell FOX 35 that Anthony’s parents might not want to look at the letters. Apparently their daughter isn't very kind to them.   ::MonkeyTongue::Go figure that is what is in the letters. And that is why it is okay for the defense to let people read them.

Absoflippinlutely, you'd think they'd get a hint by her not even looking at them...geez   It will be interesting to read this sociopath's take on her family dynamic.   I refuse to feel sorry for her one bit for her actions as an adult but seriously who wouldnt understand the agony of being born to scum like her parents.

Agree.  The only time I feel an iota of sympathy for Casey is when I try to imagine living with Cindy.   She could have got a job, saved money and left home though, like any other person would, not kill her child to be freed from her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 09:58:30 AM

oh my goodness Turbo! that is brilliant thinking! this could be something that the defense could use to try to get her off! I hope that they don't read here cause they will pounce on this info straight away lol!


In the back of their mind, they have to know that KC will do anything to get out of this, but I think they will totally be blindsided as to the full extent of what she is capable of doing. I think that is why she will not look at them in court procedings and of course they are so stupid they think it is because of Baez, when in reality it is part of a plan to make them look guilty and she is trying to look like the innocent who has lost her child because of them and then them letting her be charged to cover it up.

The entire scenario of CA trying to take over Caylee from KC will come into play. Her trying to take the spotlight, her lies, etc. KC may say that CA didn't know that KC didn't have Caylee because GA hid it from her too and that will fall right in line with all the other things he has hid from CA over the years. The affairs, the money, the gambling, etc.

I have honestly expected this from the beginning. The decomp the dogs hit on at the house would lead to the theory that "he" had to hide the body fast from CA at first until he could find somewhere to put her.  I think all the things are explainable by the defense through the lens of GA did it. I said in the beginning after GA told that story about seeing them that if I were the defense that would be what I would work toward because he put himself in the loop by that one lie.

It is the ONLY plausible reason KC could say she was out partying and never once was concerned about Caylee because she thought they had her. What is scary is it would all fall right in line with the big "fight" theory the night before which really never did mesh with her staying the night there and then getting up the next morning and all cheery with GA. At first he said he that he fed Caylee breakfast that morning he last saw her so  KC could say she went to Lee's after the fight with Cindy, was texting all night with Tony and had no idea what happened to Caylee after that fight with CA and never went back. Which as best I can tell she didn't if what GA told about seeing her was a lie as has been proved.

CA had no idea, so she "thought" she was covering for KC. Or, they could use that CA and GA both knew. Who knows what that psychotic bunch might use?

How can the defense bring all this up in court without putting Casey on the stand?  I don't think they will put her on the stand because she would not stand up to the State's cross exam...she can't keep her lies straight.

I certainly hope this defense isnt stupid enough to pull a Menendez brothers boo hoo fest with her because while there will be empathy being a product of the Anthonys, the prosecution will nail her arse to the wall in every other aspect....it is a gamble Casey will lose but the only thing that it may do is spare her life (well at least by the DP that is).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Tevye on April 06, 2010, 10:02:40 AM


I certainly hope this defense isnt stupid enough to pull a Menendez brothers boo hoo fest with her because while there will be empathy being a product of the Anthonys, the prosecution will nail her arse to the wall in every other aspect....it is a gamble Casey will lose but the only thing that it may do is spare her life (well at least by the DP that is).
I really wonder what kind of battle royale will go on when it's time to decide whether to put Casey on the stand. You just *know* she's going to fight to be put on the stand...after all, it IS all about her. She is totally going to want all that camera time. And the Colonel and Bozo are going to have their hands full!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 10:08:05 AM
Sources tell FOX 35 that Anthony’s parents might not want to look at the letters. Apparently their daughter isn't very kind to them.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Go figure that is what is in the letters. And that is why it is okay for the defense to let people read them.


Good Morning.............yeppers!!  No wonder the A's have been like moles............ ::MonkeyJnBox::
Good morning, bet the Anthonys won't be to pleased with this  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I'm still reeling from yesterday when Baez did that mocking voice like a little kid, WTH, like a kid on a playground that got his ball taken away.

I have tried to find that part without listening to the whole thing......that must have happened while I was on the phone......can you believe people have the nerve to call me when there is a hearing........but family comes first no matter what I am doing............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 10:09:21 AM
Sources tell FOX 35 that Anthony’s parents might not want to look at the letters. Apparently their daughter isn't very kind to them.   ::MonkeyTongue::Go figure that is what is in the letters. And that is why it is okay for the defense to let people read them.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 10:10:02 AM



N2, I agree....she is really loving being the star...JMO but I think in here mind she believes she will never be convicted and she is probably writing a book/movie about her 'ordeal' and when she walks out of court on BOZO and Mason's arm she will sell her story and star in her own movie.



I have known people that believe their own lies but never anything even close to KC’s delusional thoughts and actions. She really does take it to another dimension. I think you may be right that she fancies herself her own leading lady in a tale of heroine overcoming the odds and winning the day. Luckily, she does know right from wrong, even if it comes from her own alternate reality.
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 ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 10:15:15 AM
trim....I am looking for the statement made by Mason in one of the local newspapers a while back...before he jumped on the DUH train about Casey....any idea what I mean??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 10:18:23 AM
Sources tell FOX 35 that Anthony’s parents might not want to look at the letters. Apparently their daughter isn't very kind to them.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Go figure that is what is in the letters. And that is why it is okay for the defense to let people read them.


Good Morning.............yeppers!!  No wonder the A's have been like moles............ ::MonkeyJnBox::
Good morning, bet the Anthonys won't be to pleased with this  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I'm still reeling from yesterday when Baez did that mocking voice like a little kid, WTH, like a kid on a playground that got his ball taken away.

I have tried to find that part without listening to the whole thing......that must have happened while I was on the phone......can you believe people have the nerve to call me when there is a hearing........but family comes first no matter what I am doing............
http://www.wftv.com/video/23057236/index.html  around 5:30 into the video Baez does his Pee Wee Herman imitation  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 10:19:20 AM
Sources tell FOX 35 that Anthony’s parents might not want to look at the letters. Apparently their daughter isn't very kind to them.   ::MonkeyTongue::Go figure that is what is in the letters. And that is why it is okay for the defense to let people read them.

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and
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on April 06, 2010, 10:28:22 AM
I think we will see in these jailhouse penpal letters the info on GA's mistress(s)  and possibly some of the philandering CA was doing.  I think that is how they made a connection of GA to River....and some other ladies not yet exposed to us.

I think we'll hear about all the bad habits in that house..and there had to be plenty with all the obsessive cleaning going on between GA and CA.  As though they were constantly wiping out the dirt in their life over and over again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 06, 2010, 10:33:23 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
Jose Baez’s Theory of Relativity..and his pictures to prove it

Posted on April 6th, 2010 by Valhall

This was particularly good today. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 06, 2010, 10:37:09 AM
I'm ready for us to dissect [ planted IMO ] "the drivel."     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 10:39:49 AM
My guess she is saying stuff in those letters so some people may go wow, no wonder she is the way she is. Nothing but a ploy to garner some sympathy for Casey and to show how nuts Cindy and George is, and that is why she is this way. imo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 10:43:23 AM
Sources tell FOX 35 that Anthony’s parents might not want to look at the letters. Apparently their daughter isn't very kind to them.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Go figure that is what is in the letters. And that is why it is okay for the defense to let people read them.


Good Morning.............yeppers!!  No wonder the A's have been like moles............ ::MonkeyJnBox::
Good morning, bet the Anthonys won't be to pleased with this  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I'm still reeling from yesterday when Baez did that mocking voice like a little kid, WTH, like a kid on a playground that got his ball taken away.

I have tried to find that part without listening to the whole thing......that must have happened while I was on the phone......can you believe people have the nerve to call me when there is a hearing........but family comes first no matter what I am doing............
http://www.wftv.com/video/23057236/index.html  around 5:30 into the video Baez does his Pee Wee Herman imitation  ::MonkeyWink::

OHMYGAWD!  thank you nrcg..............I am so glad I didn't have to go potty....I would have wet my jammies for sure...............thanks for making me laugh this morning!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 10:46:02 AM
I think we will see in these jailhouse penpal letters the info on GA's mistress(s)  and possibly some of the philandering CA was doing.  I think that is how they made a connection of GA to River....and some other ladies not yet exposed to us.

I think we'll hear about all the bad habits in that house..and there had to be plenty with all the obsessive cleaning going on between GA and CA.  As though they were constantly wiping out the dirt in their life over and over again.

LOL...whatever is in them it's obvious the A's are not going to be happy....but then again, they have never been happy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 10:47:45 AM
You almost were expecting Baez to say I know you are but what am I? Classic Pee Wee Herman  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 10:48:30 AM
trim....I am looking for the statement made by Mason in one of the local newspapers a while back...before he jumped on the DUH train about Casey....any idea what I mean??

Yes,I do.......
December 12,2008
<snipped
Experts Discuss Discovery Of Remains

Pipitone also discussed the finding with a former prosecutor and a defense attorney, and the impact the discovery could have on the Casey Anthony case.

"What does it do to the state's case now that there' s a body?" Pipitone asked former prosecutor Elizabeth Rahter.

"Oh, it hugely bolsters the case. A jury is always a little reluctant to convict because they don't want to convict an innocent person. Absolutely you would not want to do that. So now, there's going to be no doubt that she's dead," Rahter said.

Defense attorney Cheney Mason said claims made by Casey Anthony and Baez that Caylee was alive will now work against them at trial.

"Then all the talking, all the press interviews and the parents going on this show and that show and the lawyer going on different shows establishes they have no credibility whatsoever," Mason said.

The testing of the remains could be the key to the case.

"The most important thing is how did she die?" Mason said. "It could have been an accidental death -- and we've talked before -- an improper disposal, it could have been a brutal homicide. We don't know, and until the medical examiner is finished and renders a report, no one is going to know."

Rahter said an accidental death would be hard to believe.

"What would a reasonable person do in the case of an accident? Call 911 or call your parents or call a close friend. Do you go borrow a shovel from a neighbor, probably not?" Rahter said.

Mason said an insanity defense would be even more difficult to prove, Rahter said.

"It's really difficult to be not criminally responsible. You have to prove they know right from wrong
and they understand the consequences of their actions. Obviously, Casey understood the consequences of her actions because she worked really hard to cover it up," Rahter said.

If the case plays out how many think, the experts agree on what will likely happen.

"You can pretty well predict there's going to be a life sentence, either a plea and get it over with or have a circus trial and then be convicted and get life," Mason said.

"Yeah," Rahter said.
<snipped>
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18268796/detail.html

I need more coffee after that.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Babybear on April 06, 2010, 10:49:03 AM
I understand the theory that Casey will blame George for Caylee's death and say that she wasn't even there and Caylee was fine when she left home on June 15.  And I understand the theory that she will try to completely exonerate herself.  But, if this were the case, why would she stay in jail for a couple of years and not say a word about it?  Sorry, I just don't think she would do that. 

Obviously there is animosity between her and her parents.  They haven't visited her since October of '08 and I doubt there has been any communication between them at all since that time despite their contention they have been writing each other.  IMO when Casey was at home, before she killed Caylee, Cindy did everything she could to placate her and cover for her.  She borrowed money to repay the huge amount Casey ran up on Cindy's credit cards, she excused and denied her unwed pregnancy for about seven months.  Cindy even talked her mother into not prosecuting Casey for raiding the nursing home account.  Cindy did this at George and Lee's expense.  Casey was all important in Cindy's life.  IMO Cindy really loved Caylee, but she loved and loves Casey more.  After Caylee's death, Cindy's attitude was "Well, she's gone but I still have Casey."

Something happened after that October jail visit.  I suspect that Baez is responsible for the cutting off of the relationship and he has had total control of information reaching Casey in jail.  It was a parasitic relationship between Casey and Cindy and apparently it was fine with Cindy that way. 

I believe that had Cindy known that Casey had killed Caylee when she made the frantic telephone call about the "Dead body," she would never have made that call.  They would have explained  Caylee's absence in some way, her father had her, relatives had her, something.  The police would never have been called in and no one would be the wiser.  But Cindy was trying to force Casey to produce Caylee.  I further believe that Cindy was made aware of the situation shortly after that phone call and the cover-up began.  IMO Cindy and George knowingly tampered with evidence and were accessories after the fact and it escapes my understanding why they haven't been charged.

Casey probably does imagine herself a "Star" in some kind of convoluted movie.  Dame Barbara Cartland could make a great book out of this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 06, 2010, 10:50:00 AM

How can the defense bring all this up in court without putting Casey on the stand?  I don't think they will put her on the stand because she would not stand up to the State's cross exam...she can't keep her lies straight.

Now that is the 64,000 dollar question. I don't think they will put her on the stand either, but they could build it up to the summation by the questions they ask CA, GA, and all the witnesses. It could be implied and all they need is reasonable doubt, not an accurate story. If they can convince just one juror that GA and/or CA did it and then convinced KC to be quiet it might work. There is nothing else because their trying to point toward Jesse, Roy or any of the others is not going to work. They will just throw things against the wall and see what sticks in my opinion or they will plead it out at the last minute.

What is really stupid is Baez could have plead this down before they found the body for the location of the body, but he was too into making money himself off of it to even consider it. She could have been out in about 8 years and he really has caused her to be charged with the DP. Of course it is not him sitting in that cell, so what the heck does he care?  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 10:50:35 AM
My guess she is saying stuff in those letters so some people may go wow, no wonder she is the way she is. Nothing but a ploy to garner some sympathy for Casey and to show how nuts Cindy and George is, and that is why she is this way. imo
Yep.......Poor poor pitiful Casey.  ::MonkeyViolin::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on April 06, 2010, 10:53:38 AM
My guess she is saying stuff in those letters so some people may go wow, no wonder she is the way she is. Nothing but a ploy to garner some sympathy for Casey and to show how nuts Cindy and George is, and that is why she is this way. imo
Yep.......Poor poor pitiful Casey.  ::MonkeyViolin::

OT: Mission? I've been MIA, but want you to know I did answer your post in my thread......... so sorry for the delay! OK, Forgive the OT and Hi everybody!  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TvPolice on April 06, 2010, 10:55:55 AM
I have a question if anyone can answer please
I remember reading here a searcher named Joseph Jordan
is this the same one Monkeyhunter, I was thinking it was?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 10:56:00 AM
CBB,good to see you!   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Babybear on April 06, 2010, 10:57:51 AM
I think we will see in these jailhouse penpal letters the info on GA's mistress(s)  and possibly some of the philandering CA was doing.  I think that is how they made a connection of GA to River....and some other ladies not yet exposed to us.

I think we'll hear about all the bad habits in that house..and there had to be plenty with all the obsessive cleaning going on between GA and CA.  As though they were constantly wiping out the dirt in their life over and over again.

LOL...whatever is in them it's obvious the A's are not going to be happy....but then again, they have never been happy

Gypsy, I really like that expression, "As though they were constantly wiping out the dirt in their life over and over again."  Very perceptive.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 10:58:45 AM
My guess she is saying stuff in those letters so some people may go wow, no wonder she is the way she is. Nothing but a ploy to garner some sympathy for Casey and to show how nuts Cindy and George is, and that is why she is this way. imo
Yep.......Poor poor pitiful Casey.  ::MonkeyViolin::

OT: Mission? I've been MIA, but want you to know I did answer your post in my thread......... so sorry for the delay! OK, Forgive the OT and Hi everybody!  ::MonkeyKiss::
Luvs ya - I left you a message  ::MonkeyKiss::  Glad to see you here CBB can't wait to read the trials and tribulations of poor KC's worthless little life  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Babybear on April 06, 2010, 11:01:33 AM

How can the defense bring all this up in court without putting Casey on the stand?  I don't think they will put her on the stand because she would not stand up to the State's cross exam...she can't keep her lies straight.

Now that is the 64,000 dollar question. I don't think they will put her on the stand either, but they could build it up to the summation by the questions they ask CA, GA, and all the witnesses. It could be implied and all they need is reasonable doubt, not an accurate story. If they can convince just one juror that GA and/or CA did it and then convinced KC to be quiet it might work. There is nothing else because their trying to point toward Jesse, Roy or any of the others is not going to work. They will just throw things against the wall and see what sticks in my opinion or they will plead it out at the last minute.

What is really stupid is Baez could have plead this down before they found the body for the location of the body, but he was too into making money himself off of it to even consider it. She could have been out in about 8 years and he really has caused her to be charged with the DP. Of course it is not him sitting in that cell, so what the heck does he care?  

Turbo, I agree that she could have been out of the slammer in about eight years had she had an attorney who was experienced and didn't have dollar signs in his eyes. While I like seeing her charged with murder one and the possibilmty of the DP, Baez, IMO, has nop represented her well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 11:01:40 AM
I have a question if anyone can answer please
I remember reading here a searcher named Joseph Jordan
is this the same one Monkeyhunter, I was thinking it was?

Yes same one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TvPolice on April 06, 2010, 11:02:41 AM
I have a question if anyone can answer please
I remember reading here a searcher named Joseph Jordan
is this the same one Monkeyhunter, I was thinking it was?

Yes same one.

Thank-you


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 06, 2010, 11:03:44 AM


I certainly hope this defense isnt stupid enough to pull a Menendez brothers boo hoo fest with her because while there will be empathy being a product of the Anthonys, the prosecution will nail her arse to the wall in every other aspect....it is a gamble Casey will lose but the only thing that it may do is spare her life (well at least by the DP that is).
I really wonder what kind of battle royale will go on when it's time to decide whether to put Casey on the stand. You just *know* she's going to fight to be put on the stand...after all, it IS all about her. She is totally going to want all that camera time. And the Colonel and Bozo are going to have their hands full!

I am betting that she will want to be "the star" too. They may just give up and let her silly self do that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 06, 2010, 11:10:16 AM

How can the defense bring all this up in court without putting Casey on the stand?  I don't think they will put her on the stand because she would not stand up to the State's cross exam...she can't keep her lies straight.

Now that is the 64,000 dollar question. I don't think they will put her on the stand either, but they could build it up to the summation by the questions they ask CA, GA, and all the witnesses. It could be implied and all they need is reasonable doubt, not an accurate story. If they can convince just one juror that GA and/or CA did it and then convinced KC to be quiet it might work. There is nothing else because their trying to point toward Jesse, Roy or any of the others is not going to work. They will just throw things against the wall and see what sticks in my opinion or they will plead it out at the last minute.

What is really stupid is Baez could have plead this down before they found the body for the location of the body, but he was too into making money himself off of it to even consider it. She could have been out in about 8 years and he really has caused her to be charged with the DP. Of course it is not him sitting in that cell, so what the heck does he care?  

Turbo, I agree that she could have been out of the slammer in about eight years had she had an attorney who was experienced and didn't have dollar signs in his eyes. While I like seeing her charged with murder one and the possibilmty of the DP, Baez, IMO, has nop represented her well.

As much as I detest her and would like to see her get her "due" for killing Caylee, I don't think she has had adequate representation.

Baez is as dumber than a box of rocks, and has put off and put off all the things which might have given her a good defense. It has been one thing right after another that he has wasted the court's time to get which he never picks up. He should have had ALL the depositions from any witnesses he might could use long before now and he has done nothing almost. He has spent his time on figuring out how to get on TV shows and selling interviews it appears to me. I honestly don't think he is smart enough to defend a simple criminal charge much less a murder charge. The good thing is she picked him and hired him so she can't say the court gave her an incompetent attorney.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 06, 2010, 11:12:28 AM
The letters will be chock full of beauty tips, what a wonderful mother Lyon has been to KC, how pathetic George is and that he is a looser.  That Cindy is a control freak and it is all about her her her.  Lee's secret recipe on how to get tube socks extra white.  How pathetic all those people are that keep sending money in when all she does is stuff face and then purge.

Also she will write how long her hair is, how strong her nails are, the bras are itchy, no blue crayon in the commissary box, the TP is too stiff, the sheets are not the right thread count what colour her poop was from last nights dinner and that Jose is her Mose and really gets her.   ::PopcornFrog::  My prediction   ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 11:14:48 AM
The letters will be chock full of beauty tips, what a wonderful mother Lyon has been to KC, how pathetic George is and that he is a looser.  That Cindy is a control freak and it is all about her her her.  Lee's secret recipe on how to get tube socks extra white.  How pathetic all those people are that keep sending money in when all she does is stuff face and then purge.

Also she will write how long her hair is, how strong her nails are, the bras are itchy, no blue crayon in the commissary box, the TP is too stiff, the sheets are not the right thread count what colour her poop was from last nights dinner and that Jose is her Mose and really gets her.   ::PopcornFrog::  My prediction   ::monkeywine2::
And don't forget what she plans to do when she gets out of jail  ::monkeywine2::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 06, 2010, 11:19:53 AM
The letters will be chock full of beauty tips, what a wonderful mother Lyon has been to KC, how pathetic George is and that he is a looser.  That Cindy is a control freak and it is all about her her her.  Lee's secret recipe on how to get tube socks extra white.  How pathetic all those people are that keep sending money in when all she does is stuff face and then purge.

Also she will write how long her hair is, how strong her nails are, the bras are itchy, no blue crayon in the commissary box, the TP is too stiff, the sheets are not the right thread count what colour her poop was from last nights dinner and that Jose is her Mose and really gets her.   ::PopcornFrog::  My prediction   ::monkeywine2::
And don't forget what she plans to do when she gets out of jail  ::monkeywine2::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

And how she has been the "victim" of her family and friends all these years. Nothing which has happened has ever been her fault.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 11:21:18 AM
trim....I am looking for the statement made by Mason in one of the local newspapers a while back...before he jumped on the DUH train about Casey....any idea what I mean??

Yes,I do.......
December 12,2008
<snipped
Experts Discuss Discovery Of Remains

Pipitone also discussed the finding with a former prosecutor and a defense attorney, and the impact the discovery could have on the Casey Anthony case.

"What does it do to the state's case now that there' s a body?" Pipitone asked former prosecutor Elizabeth Rahter.

"Oh, it hugely bolsters the case. A jury is always a little reluctant to convict because they don't want to convict an innocent person. Absolutely you would not want to do that. So now, there's going to be no doubt that she's dead," Rahter said.

Defense attorney Cheney Mason said claims made by Casey Anthony and Baez that Caylee was alive will now work against them at trial.

"Then all the talking, all the press interviews and the parents going on this show and that show and the lawyer going on different shows establishes they have no credibility whatsoever," Mason said.

The testing of the remains could be the key to the case.

"The most important thing is how did she die?" Mason said. "It could have been an accidental death -- and we've talked before -- an improper disposal, it could have been a brutal homicide. We don't know, and until the medical examiner is finished and renders a report, no one is going to know."

Rahter said an accidental death would be hard to believe.

"What would a reasonable person do in the case of an accident? Call 911 or call your parents or call a close friend. Do you go borrow a shovel from a neighbor, probably not?" Rahter said.

Mason said an insanity defense would be even more difficult to prove, Rahter said.

"It's really difficult to be not criminally responsible. You have to prove they know right from wrong
and they understand the consequences of their actions. Obviously, Casey understood the consequences of her actions because she worked really hard to cover it up," Rahter said.

If the case plays out how many think, the experts agree on what will likely happen.

"You can pretty well predict there's going to be a life sentence, either a plea and get it over with or have a circus trial and then be convicted and get life," Mason said.

"Yeah," Rahter said.
<snipped>
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18268796/detail.html

I need more coffee after that.   ::MonkeyTongue::

I knew you would....I  included this in an email I sent to Mason. I reminded the old fart what he said!  I also pointed out his own words about going on TV shows showing their lack of creditability!  LOL    I also asked him why he would stoop so low as to make a remark about Mr. Nejame's stature..and suggested that when he stands as tall as Mr. Nejame in judicial and moral standards he could expect the same amount of respect as Mr Nejame gets on a daily basis..I do not expect a reply...but at leat I said what was on my mind.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18268796/detail.html
Experts Discuss Discovery Of Remains
Pipitone also discussed the finding with a former prosecutor and a defense attorney, and the impact the discovery could have on the Casey Anthony case."What does it do to the state's case now that there' s a body?" Pipitone asked former prosecutor Elizabeth Rahter."Oh, it hugely bolsters the case. A jury is always a little reluctant to convict because they don't want to convict an innocent person. Absolutely you would not want to do that. So now, there's going to be no doubt that she's dead," Rahter said. Defense attorney Cheney Mason said claims made by Casey Anthony and Baez that Caylee was alive will now work against them at trial." Then all the talking, all the press interviews and the parents going on this show and that show and the lawyer going on different shows establishes they have no credibility whatsoever," Mason said.  The testing of the remains could be the key to the case."The most important thing is how did she die?" Mason said. "It could have been an accidental death -- and we've talked before -- an improper disposal, it could have been a brutal homicide. We don't know, and until the medical examiner is finished and renders a report, no one is going to know."Rahter said an accidental death would be hard to believe."What would a reasonable person do in the case of an accident? Call 911 or call your parents or call a close friend. Do you go borrow a shovel from a neighbor, probably not?" Rahter said. Mason said an insanity defense would be even more difficult to prove, Rahter said."It's really difficult to be not criminally responsible. You have to prove they know right from wrong and they understand the consequences of their actions. Obviously, Casey understood the consequences of her actions because she worked really hard to cover it up," Rahter said. If the case plays out how many think, the experts agree on what will likely happen."You can pretty well predict there's going to be a life sentence, either a plea and get it over with or have a circus trial and then be convicted and get life," Mason said. "Yeah," Rahter said.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 11:22:09 AM
The letters will be chock full of beauty tips, what a wonderful mother Lyon has been to KC, how pathetic George is and that he is a looser.  That Cindy is a control freak and it is all about her her her.  Lee's secret recipe on how to get tube socks extra white.  How pathetic all those people are that keep sending money in when all she does is stuff face and then purge.

Also she will write how long her hair is, how strong her nails are, the bras are itchy, no blue crayon in the commissary box, the TP is too stiff, the sheets are not the right thread count what colour her poop was from last nights dinner and that Jose is her Mose and really gets her.   ::PopcornFrog::  My prediction   ::monkeywine2::
And how upset she is that Tony has never once come to see her or write her, how dare him  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 11:24:04 AM
Good work Sunny!    ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on April 06, 2010, 11:24:14 AM
The letters will be chock full of beauty tips, what a wonderful mother Lyon has been to KC, how pathetic George is and that he is a looser.  That Cindy is a control freak and it is all about her her her.  Lee's secret recipe on how to get tube socks extra white.  How pathetic all those people are that keep sending money in when all she does is stuff face and then purge.

Also she will write how long her hair is, how strong her nails are, the bras are itchy, no blue crayon in the commissary box, the TP is too stiff, the sheets are not the right thread count what colour her poop was from last nights dinner and that Jose is her Mose and really gets her.   ::PopcornFrog::  My prediction   ::monkeywine2::

LOL..my favorite part would be Lee's recipe for getting those dang tube socks so white!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 11:25:15 AM
The letters will be chock full of beauty tips, what a wonderful mother Lyon has been to KC, how pathetic George is and that he is a looser.  That Cindy is a control freak and it is all about her her her.  Lee's secret recipe on how to get tube socks extra white.  How pathetic all those people are that keep sending money in when all she does is stuff face and then purge.

Also she will write how long her hair is, how strong her nails are, the bras are itchy, no blue crayon in the commissary box, the TP is too stiff, the sheets are not the right thread count what colour her poop was from last nights dinner and that Jose is her Mose and really gets her.   ::PopcornFrog::  My prediction   ::monkeywine2::


hhahahahahaha  better have some more of this ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 11:25:24 AM
Great job Sunny, I'm glad you reminded him of some things and pointed out his classlessness when talking about Mark Nejame  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 06, 2010, 11:26:48 AM
waiting patiently impatiently for those darn letters!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Babybear on April 06, 2010, 11:28:36 AM
trim....I am looking for the statement made by Mason in one of the local newspapers a while back...before he jumped on the DUH train about Casey....any idea what I mean??

Yes,I do.......
December 12,2008
<snipped
Experts Discuss Discovery Of Remains

Pipitone also discussed the finding with a former prosecutor and a defense attorney, and the impact the discovery could have on the Casey Anthony case.

"What does it do to the state's case now that there' s a body?" Pipitone asked former prosecutor Elizabeth Rahter.

"Oh, it hugely bolsters the case. A jury is always a little reluctant to convict because they don't want to convict an innocent person. Absolutely you would not want to do that. So now, there's going to be no doubt that she's dead," Rahter said.

Defense attorney Cheney Mason said claims made by Casey Anthony and Baez that Caylee was alive will now work against them at trial.

"Then all the talking, all the press interviews and the parents going on this show and that show and the lawyer going on different shows establishes they have no credibility whatsoever," Mason said.

The testing of the remains could be the key to the case.

"The most important thing is how did she die?" Mason said. "It could have been an accidental death -- and we've talked before -- an improper disposal, it could have been a brutal homicide. We don't know, and until the medical examiner is finished and renders a report, no one is going to know."

Rahter said an accidental death would be hard to believe.

"What would a reasonable person do in the case of an accident? Call 911 or call your parents or call a close friend. Do you go borrow a shovel from a neighbor, probably not?" Rahter said.

Mason said an insanity defense would be even more difficult to prove, Rahter said.

"It's really difficult to be not criminally responsible. You have to prove they know right from wrong
and they understand the consequences of their actions. Obviously, Casey understood the consequences of her actions because she worked really hard to cover it up," Rahter said.

If the case plays out how many think, the experts agree on what will likely happen.

"You can pretty well predict there's going to be a life sentence, either a plea and get it over with or have a circus trial and then be convicted and get life," Mason said.

"Yeah," Rahter said.
<snipped>
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18268796/detail.html

I need more coffee after that.   ::MonkeyTongue::

I knew you would....I  included this in an email I sent to Mason. I reminded the old fart what he said!  I also pointed out his own words about going on TV shows showing their lack of creditability!  LOL    I also asked him why he would stoop so low as to make a remark about Mr. Nejame's stature..and suggested that when he stands as tall as Mr. Nejame in judicial and moral standards he could expect the same amount of respect as Mr Nejame gets on a daily basis..I do not expect a reply...but at leat I said what was on my mind.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18268796/detail.html
Experts Discuss Discovery Of Remains
Pipitone also discussed the finding with a former prosecutor and a defense attorney, and the impact the discovery could have on the Casey Anthony case."What does it do to the state's case now that there' s a body?" Pipitone asked former prosecutor Elizabeth Rahter."Oh, it hugely bolsters the case. A jury is always a little reluctant to convict because they don't want to convict an innocent person. Absolutely you would not want to do that. So now, there's going to be no doubt that she's dead," Rahter said. Defense attorney Cheney Mason said claims made by Casey Anthony and Baez that Caylee was alive will now work against them at trial." Then all the talking, all the press interviews and the parents going on this show and that show and the lawyer going on different shows establishes they have no credibility whatsoever," Mason said.  The testing of the remains could be the key to the case."The most important thing is how did she die?" Mason said. "It could have been an accidental death -- and we've talked before -- an improper disposal, it could have been a brutal homicide. We don't know, and until the medical examiner is finished and renders a report, no one is going to know."Rahter said an accidental death would be hard to believe."What would a reasonable person do in the case of an accident? Call 911 or call your parents or call a close friend. Do you go borrow a shovel from a neighbor, probably not?" Rahter said. Mason said an insanity defense would be even more difficult to prove, Rahter said."It's really difficult to be not criminally responsible. You have to prove they know right from wrong and they understand the consequences of their actions. Obviously, Casey understood the consequences of her actions because she worked really hard to cover it up," Rahter said. If the case plays out how many think, the experts agree on what will likely happen."You can pretty well predict there's going to be a life sentence, either a plea and get it over with or have a circus trial and then be convicted and get life," Mason said. "Yeah," Rahter said.


Sunny, emailing Mason was a great thing to do.  I wish I had the courage to do stuff like this.  I think I live vicariously through people like you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on April 06, 2010, 11:30:50 AM
The letters will be chock full of beauty tips, what a wonderful mother Lyon has been to KC, how pathetic George is and that he is a looser.  That Cindy is a control freak and it is all about her her her.  Lee's secret recipe on how to get tube socks extra white.  How pathetic all those people are that keep sending money in when all she does is stuff face and then purge.

Also she will write how long her hair is, how strong her nails are, the bras are itchy, no blue crayon in the commissary box, the TP is too stiff, the sheets are not the right thread count what colour her poop was from last nights dinner and that Jose is her Mose and really gets her.   ::PopcornFrog::  My prediction   ::monkeywine2::

Preparing my mind to digest a whole lot of 'drivel' today when I came across this little gem-  thanks for a big laugh Northern Rose!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: BooMonkey on April 06, 2010, 11:35:56 AM
I wonder if the reason why Lyons was not there yesterday has to do with the State now paying for the trial. Would they limit the amount of attorneys down to who is necessary and who is not? I know she is Pro Bono, but maybe she gets a little something for showing up?

With her huge EGO I'm betting that now Col Sanders is on board, that ship is not big enough for the both of them. Can you image her shock and dismay when Mason asked her to get him a cup of coffee!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::  She was supposed to be the savior, she was to be the one to swoop in and clean up the mess that Bozo made. Now that Mason's there, I'm sure he put her in her place and she's scampering off to lick her wounds. I mean, she's all about getting her face on TV and getting her name in the paper. WTF?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Babybear on April 06, 2010, 11:53:49 AM
I wonder if the reason why Lyons was not there yesterday has to do with the State now paying for the trial. Would they limit the amount of attorneys down to who is necessary and who is not? I know she is Pro Bono, but maybe she gets a little something for showing up?

With her huge EGO I'm betting that now Col Sanders is on board, that ship is not big enough for the both of them. Can you image her shock and dismay when Mason asked her to get him a cup of coffee!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::  She was supposed to be the savior, she was to be the one to swoop in and clean up the mess that Bozo made. Now that Mason's there, I'm sure he put her in her place and she's scampering off to lick her wounds. I mean, she's all about getting her face on TV and getting her name in the paper. WTF?

Hi Boo--This cast of egomaniacs is funny to see.  I expect a knock down drag out before this is over and Lyon has it over them all in the weight category.  Personally, I wasn't impressed with Mason at all.  He talks like his mouth is full of grits and I had trouble understanding all of what he said, which apparently didn't make any difference to the judge anyway. 

Actually, I really love grits but I don't like this Mason character.  He really showed what he is made of with his snide remark referring to Mr. NeJame's height.  No class at all.  No courtesy. Not much of anything, really.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on April 06, 2010, 11:58:31 AM
I wonder if the reason why Lyons was not there yesterday has to do with the State now paying for the trial. Would they limit the amount of attorneys down to who is necessary and who is not? I know she is Pro Bono, but maybe she gets a little something for showing up?

With her huge EGO I'm betting that now Col Sanders is on board, that ship is not big enough for the both of them. Can you image her shock and dismay when Mason asked her to get him a cup of coffee!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::  She was supposed to be the savior, she was to be the one to swoop in and clean up the mess that Bozo made. Now that Mason's there, I'm sure he put her in her place and she's scampering off to lick her wounds. I mean, she's all about getting her face on TV and getting her name in the paper. WTF?

Hi Boo--This cast of egomaniacs is funny to see.  I expect a knock down drag out before this is over and Lyon has it over them all in the weight category.  Personally, I wasn't impressed with Mason at all.  He talks like his mouth is full of grits and I had trouble understanding all of what he said, which apparently didn't make any difference to the judge anyway. 

Actually, I really love grits but I don't like this Mason character.  He really showed what he is made of with his snide remark referring to Mr. NeJame's height.  No class at all.  No courtesy. Not much of anything, really.

I missed that- what did he say about NeJame?  Shows his lack of class, doesn't it? If he's not careful people could make lots of comments about his personal appearance, he's not all that. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 12:02:39 PM
Sunny  ::MonkeyCool:: let us know if he responds to you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 12:05:34 PM
Vinnie on TRU TV said letters supposed to be released this after noon :smt069


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 12:06:12 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/6/casey39s_letters_expected_to_be_released_tuesday.html
 Casey's Letters Expected To Be Released Today
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:34:45 AM
Reported by Jacqueline Fell

ORLANDO -- The letters Casey Anthony wrote to another inmate in jail are expected to be released Tuesday afternoon.

According to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, Anthony and the woman met at the Orange County Jail.

They said the woman is now in a federal jail, and has not written to Anthony since that time.

The judge allowed the defense 15 days to review the letters.

Anthony's defense said they have nothing to hide.

Although they are not saying what's in those letters, but they have said the letters do not include a confession.

Stay with News 13 for the latest in this developing story.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 12:14:46 PM
Good work Sunny!    ::MonkeyDance::

thanks trim....I am so disgusted with the people on the other side being such aholes and thinking it's acceptable to the general public.......at least he will know it's not acceptable to one person. ::MonkeyMad::  and I wanted him to know that people DO NOT FORGET


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 12:15:38 PM
Great job Sunny, I'm glad you reminded him of some things and pointed out his classlessness when talking about Mark Nejame  ::MonkeyDance::

thanks Mission.....this is just so disrespectful to a murdered child


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 12:16:07 PM
waiting patiently impatiently for those darn letters!

 ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::


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Post by: Curly on April 06, 2010, 12:16:46 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/23064066/detail.html
Casey Anthony Jailhouse Letters May Be Revealed
24-Year-Old Charged With Daughter's Death
ORLANDO, Fla. --
Secret letters written by Casey Anthony will come to light Tuesday.

The 24-year-old passed along letters to fellow inmate Robyn Adams, who Anthony's defense team is calling a jailhouse snitch.

"Jailhouse snitches are a big problem. They lie to benefit themselves," Orlando defense attorney Richard Hornsby said.

Anthony was able to exchange around 50 letters with the woman.

The letters offer a first glimpse into Anthony's life in jail. She is being held at the Orange County Jail on no bond charged with murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee Marie Anthony. Caylee's remains were found in a wooded area off Suburban Drive near the Anthony family home in December 2008. The young mother maintains a nanny by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee.

According to court papers, there are 258 pages believed to be hand written by Anthony.

"The amount of notes isn't very shocking," Hornsby said
A jailhouse investigation revealed a correctional officer delivered the letters between the two women from their cell.

Jose Baez, Anthony's lead attorney, did not object to the release of these letters because he said there was nothing incriminating in them, but apparently Anthony spends a lot of time bashing her parents, George and Cindy Anthony.

Prosecutors most likely will use these letters against Anthony in her murder case.

Love the line "spends a lot of time bashing her parents".
These should be really a good read.
Bozo's probably trying to get George back for saying he didn't like him.
I can actually see him being a big baby Huey like that.
This confirms all the speculation as to why Casey doesn't glance in their direction.
Can't wait to read them.


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Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 12:18:20 PM
I know my email was received:  HOT DAMN!!!!


Status for 're: Casey Anthony':
ChenMas4@aol.com Read Tue 4/6 10:13 am


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Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 12:20:02 PM


Sunny, emailing Mason was a great thing to do.  I wish I had the courage to do stuff like this.  I think I live vicariously through people like you.

hahahaha...what's he gonna do...block my email addy!  LOL   you are soooo funny!! ::MonkeyJnBox::


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 12:20:21 PM
I know my email was received:  HOT DAMN!!!!


Status for 're: Casey Anthony':
ChenMas4@aol.com Read Tue 4/6 10:13 am
::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 12:22:31 PM
I wonder if the reason why Lyons was not there yesterday has to do with the State now paying for the trial. Would they limit the amount of attorneys down to who is necessary and who is not? I know she is Pro Bono, but maybe she gets a little something for showing up?

With her huge EGO I'm betting that now Col Sanders is on board, that ship is not big enough for the both of them. Can you image her shock and dismay when Mason asked her to get him a cup of coffee!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::  She was supposed to be the savior, she was to be the one to swoop in and clean up the mess that Bozo made. Now that Mason's there, I'm sure he put her in her place and she's scampering off to lick her wounds. I mean, she's all about getting her face on TV and getting her name in the paper. WTF?

hi BOO!  I don't have an answer to your question....but since she is Pro Bono   IMO she will only show up, if at all, when it benefits her....I think she only took the case on to promote her new book and get free TV time to do so,


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Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 12:22:44 PM
I know my email was received:  HOT DAMN!!!!


Status for 're: Casey Anthony':
ChenMas4@aol.com Read Tue 4/6 10:13 am
::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Babybear on April 06, 2010, 12:24:41 PM
I know my email was received:  HOT DAMN!!!!


Status for 're: Casey Anthony':
ChenMas4@aol.com Read Tue 4/6 10:13 am
::MonkeyCheer4::


I LOVE it!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 12:25:18 PM
Sunny  ::MonkeyCool:: let us know if he responds to you.

you KNOW I will.. ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::  but I do not expect a reply....I tried to be very simplistic in the email.....just wanted him to know that people were watching and listening ....to both he and BOZO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 12:26:19 PM
Vinnie on TRU TV said letters supposed to be released this after noon :smt069

I hope someone from the media is standing there waiting.......and that WE get them TODAY


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 06, 2010, 12:27:47 PM
I know my email was received:  HOT DAMN!!!!


Status for 're: Casey Anthony':
ChenMas4@aol.com Read Tue 4/6 10:13 am
::MonkeyDance::

woo hoo!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Babybear on April 06, 2010, 12:28:02 PM
BOO  Mason referred to Mr. NeJame (Paraphrasing) "The little lawyer for TES."  Whatever the exact words were, they were meant to denigrate Mr. Nejame because of his small stature.  I'm sure that Mr. Nejame would like very much to be taller, but IMO he is very tall when he stands on his integrity and ability.  It was just a low blow by Mason which didn't make NeJame look bad, but made Mason look bad indeed.


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Post by: Western Observr on April 06, 2010, 12:29:58 PM
I wonder if the reason why Lyons was not there yesterday has to do with the State now paying for the trial. Would they limit the amount of attorneys down to who is necessary and who is not? I know she is Pro Bono, but maybe she gets a little something for showing up?

With her huge EGO I'm betting that now Col Sanders is on board, that ship is not big enough for the both of them. Can you image her shock and dismay when Mason asked her to get him a cup of coffee!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::  She was supposed to be the savior, she was to be the one to swoop in and clean up the mess that Bozo made. Now that Mason's there, I'm sure he put her in her place and she's scampering off to lick her wounds. I mean, she's all about getting her face on TV and getting her name in the paper. WTF?

hi BOO!  I don't have an answer to your question....but since she is Pro Bono   IMO she will only show up, if at all, when it benefits her....I think she only took the case on to promote her new book and get free TV time to do so,

I think she will make her excuses and leave the case shortly. Now that CM is onboard, he is death penalty certified, what do they need her for, and she has achieved all the publicity she needs for her book etc...


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 12:29:58 PM
BOO  Mason referred to Mr. NeJame (Paraphrasing) "The little lawyer for TES."  Whatever the exact words were, they were meant to denigrate Mr. Nejame because of his small stature.  I'm sure that Mr. Nejame would like very much to be taller, but IMO he is very tall when he stands on his integrity and ability.  It was just a low blow by Mason which didn't make NeJame look bad, but made Mason look bad indeed.
That was just such low class by Mason. Doesn't matter what size he is, he is a very good lawyer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 12:30:36 PM
I wonder if the reason why Lyons was not there yesterday has to do with the State now paying for the trial. Would they limit the amount of attorneys down to who is necessary and who is not? I know she is Pro Bono, but maybe she gets a little something for showing up?

With her huge EGO I'm betting that now Col Sanders is on board, that ship is not big enough for the both of them. Can you image her shock and dismay when Mason asked her to get him a cup of coffee!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::  She was supposed to be the savior, she was to be the one to swoop in and clean up the mess that Bozo made. Now that Mason's there, I'm sure he put her in her place and she's scampering off to lick her wounds. I mean, she's all about getting her face on TV and getting her name in the paper. WTF?

hi BOO!  I don't have an answer to your question....but since she is Pro Bono   IMO she will only show up, if at all, when it benefits her....I think she only took the case on to promote her new book and get free TV time to do so,

I think she will make her excuses and leave the case shortly. Now that CM is onboard, he is death penalty certified, what do they need her for, and she has achieved all the publicity she needs for her book etc...
Yes, and I'll bet she is already gone.


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Post by: Western Observr on April 06, 2010, 12:31:12 PM
BOO  Mason referred to Mr. NeJame (Paraphrasing) "The little lawyer for TES."  Whatever the exact words were, they were meant to denigrate Mr. Nejame because of his small stature.  I'm sure that Mr. Nejame would like very much to be taller, but IMO he is very tall when he stands on his integrity and ability.  It was just a low blow by Mason which didn't make NeJame look bad, but made Mason look bad indeed.

I don't know why the Judge doesn't rap them on the knuckles when they get personal like that. So damn childish and unprofessional.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 06, 2010, 12:31:15 PM
You almost were expecting Baez to say I know you are but what am I? Classic Pee Wee Herman  ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 12:38:07 PM
You almost were expecting Baez to say I know you are but what am I? Classic Pee Wee Herman  ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::
That little display of Baez was just plain bizarre.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 12:39:36 PM
Letters to be released sometime after 1 eastern   per Tru TV


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Post by: Girlzrock on April 06, 2010, 12:41:03 PM

Prosecutors want transcripts of an August hearing where one of Casey Anthony's defense attorneys announced her innocence in court.

Assistant State Attorney Linda Drane Burdick wants the transcripts for the two-hour hearing on Aug. 21, 2009. She doesn't explain in her one-page request filed Monday why the state seeks the information.

Anthony, 24, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. The 2-year-old's remains were found in woods less than a mile from her family home in December 2008.

At the August hearing, attorney Todd Macaluso, who is no longer a member of the defense team, announced in court: "The body or remains of Caylee Anthony were placed there after Anthony was locked up in the Orange County facility."

The defense at the time wouldn't go into details about what evidence they had. Macaluso's statement was part of the defense's request to obtain records from Texas EquuSearch, the volunteer group that helped search for Caylee.

The group claims there was too much flooding in the area and they could not search the exact location where Caylee was later found.

Copyright © 2010, Orlando Sentinel

Good Morning Monks!  thanks trim..............ummmmm I wondered what the request for the transcript was.....I wonder what LDB has up her smart sleeve.

She is looking for the point when the duhfense "waived" the issue of whether or not Equusearch was acting as a representative of the state, I bet.


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Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 12:48:32 PM
more in Mason's own words

If the case did get to a jury, Pipitone asked Mason if he thought her attorneys would put her on the stand.

"Knowing what I know at this time, there's not a snowball's chance you know where I put her on the witness stand," Mason said.

"Why is that?" Pipitone said.

"Well, because there's so much to cross-examine her about," Mason said.

"Do you just say, 'The defense rests.' Don't even put on a defense?" Pipitone asked.

"There's a good chance that would be the case," Mason said.

continued:  http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18025942/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 12:51:19 PM
Letters to be released sometime after 1 eastern   per Tru TV

thanks nrcg


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 12:52:14 PM

Prosecutors want transcripts of an August hearing where one of Casey Anthony's defense attorneys announced her innocence in court.

Assistant State Attorney Linda Drane Burdick wants the transcripts for the two-hour hearing on Aug. 21, 2009. She doesn't explain in her one-page request filed Monday why the state seeks the information.

Anthony, 24, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. The 2-year-old's remains were found in woods less than a mile from her family home in December 2008.

At the August hearing, attorney Todd Macaluso, who is no longer a member of the defense team, announced in court: "The body or remains of Caylee Anthony were placed there after Anthony was locked up in the Orange County facility."

The defense at the time wouldn't go into details about what evidence they had. Macaluso's statement was part of the defense's request to obtain records from Texas EquuSearch, the volunteer group that helped search for Caylee.

The group claims there was too much flooding in the area and they could not search the exact location where Caylee was later found.

Copyright © 2010, Orlando Sentinel

Good Morning Monks!  thanks trim..............ummmmm I wondered what the request for the transcript was.....I wonder what LDB has up her smart sleeve.

She is looking for the point when the duhfense "waived" the issue of whether or not Equusearch was acting as a representative of the state, I bet.

perhaps so girlz..........sounds reasonable!! ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: BamaMonkey on April 06, 2010, 12:55:13 PM
Letters to be released sometime after 1 eastern   per Tru TV

thanks nrcg


Ok.  I am my chores done and waiting to read.
I have been fascinated by the family dynamics in this case.
Of course, I am more interested in justice for Caylee.
Just letting you monkeys know that I am waiting with you!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: BamaMonkey on April 06, 2010, 12:57:23 PM
OOOps  Messed up again joined someone else's post.
Maybe I should post more and would know how this works.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 01:00:55 PM
OOOps  Messed up again joined someone else's post.
Maybe I should post more and would know how this works.

hi Bma....we all do it...no problem!! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 01:05:04 PM
BOO  Mason referred to Mr. NeJame (Paraphrasing) "The little lawyer for TES."  Whatever the exact words were, they were meant to denigrate Mr. Nejame because of his small stature.  I'm sure that Mr. Nejame would like very much to be taller, but IMO he is very tall when he stands on his integrity and ability.  It was just a low blow by Mason which didn't make NeJame look bad, but made Mason look bad indeed.

Mason is an azz.   ::MonkeyTongue::
Mason took a swipe at NeJame, saying the contentious hearing was expected “given the personality of the little player there for Texas.”
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/casey-anthony-fight-over-texas-equusearch-produces-fireworks.html/comment-page-2


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 01:08:10 PM
Letters to be released sometime after 1 eastern   per Tru TV

thanks nrcg


Ok.  I am my chores done and waiting to read.
I have been fascinated by the family dynamics in this case.
Of course, I am more interested in justice for Caylee.
Just letting you monkeys know that I am waiting with you!!
Should be interesting


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 01:09:17 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/casey-anthony-casey-anthony-bashes-parents-in-jailhouse-letters-wesh-says.html
Casey Anthony: Casey Anthony bashes parents in jailhouse letters, WESH says
Caylee and Casey Anthony, George and Cindy Anthony, WESH, WFTV, WKMG — posted by halboedeker on April, 6 2010 12:43 PM
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Can Casey Anthony spell?

We should know soon when her jailhouse letters are released this afternoon. WESH-Channel 2, WKMG-Channel 6 and WFTV-Channel 9 previewed the release on noon newscasts.

“We know what’s not going to be in them: a confession,” WKMG’s Tony Pipitone said.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

“It will be the first extensive look into her thoughts since she was arrested in October 2008 on the murder charge and put into protective custody at the Orange County Jail,” Pipitone said.

On WESH, Eryka Washington said, “This is the first time we’re getting a glimpse of  Casey’s life behind bars.”

Washington added that defense attorney Jose Baez did not object to the letters’ release because he says there’s nothing incriminating on them. “However, we are told Casey spends a lot of time bashing her parents, George and Cindy Anthony,” Washington said.

WFTV anchor Greg Warmoth said of the letters, “Investigators told Eyewitness News they do contain damaging  evidence against her … but Casey’s defense team says they are not afraid of what’s in those letters.”

Defense attorney Jose Baez told Pipitone, “You’re going to find if you look at them … they’re of a person who’s locked up 23 hours a day. We have nothing to hide with those letters.”

WFTV showed footage of Baez saying, “If moved to keep them private, you guys are going to speculate all over the place about what’s in there.”
In her jail correspondence, Casey Anthony talked to drug dealer Robyn Adams, who is now in federal prison.

Earlier reports said that Anthony talks about food and what she’ll do when released.

WESH also reported that Anthony’s defense team is headed to Washington today to depose FBI analysts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 01:11:32 PM
Letters to be released sometime after 1 eastern   per Tru TV

thanks nrcg


Ok.  I am my chores done and waiting to read.
I have been fascinated by the family dynamics in this case.
Of course, I am more interested in justice for Caylee.
Just letting you monkeys know that I am waiting with you!!
Should be interesting

Oh yes.    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Curly on April 06, 2010, 01:12:09 PM
BOO  Mason referred to Mr. NeJame (Paraphrasing) "The little lawyer for TES."  Whatever the exact words were, they were meant to denigrate Mr. Nejame because of his small stature.  I'm sure that Mr. Nejame would like very much to be taller, but IMO he is very tall when he stands on his integrity and ability.  It was just a low blow by Mason which didn't make NeJame look bad, but made Mason look bad indeed.

Mason is an azz.   ::MonkeyTongue::
Mason took a swipe at NeJame, saying the contentious hearing was expected “given the personality of the little player there for Texas.”
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/casey-anthony-fight-over-texas-equusearch-produces-fireworks.html/comment-page-2

I really detest him. He's such a creep. So far, none of his bellowing and bullying have swayed Strickland.
One thing I wanted to mention as far as Casey taking the stand. Let's not forget that "she is in charge" as Georgette pointed out.
What if she "insists" on taking the stand because she feels that she can bs her way out of this?
It's not out of the realm of possibility.
Off to the Apple store to have my hard drive replaced.
Hope the letters are released asap. It's after 1 pm. already.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 01:13:58 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/casey-anthony-casey-anthony-bashes-parents-in-jailhouse-letters-wesh-says.html
Casey Anthony: Casey Anthony bashes parents in jailhouse letters, WESH says
Caylee and Casey Anthony, George and Cindy Anthony, WESH, WFTV, WKMG — posted by halboedeker on April, 6 2010 12:43 PM
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Can Casey Anthony spell?

We should know soon when her jailhouse letters are released this afternoon. WESH-Channel 2, WKMG-Channel 6 and WFTV-Channel 9 previewed the release on noon newscasts.

“We know what’s not going to be in them: a confession,” WKMG’s Tony Pipitone said.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

“It will be the first extensive look into her thoughts since she was arrested in October 2008 on the murder charge and put into protective custody at the Orange County Jail,” Pipitone said.

On WESH, Eryka Washington said, “This is the first time we’re getting a glimpse of  Casey’s life behind bars.”

Washington added that defense attorney Jose Baez did not object to the letters’ release because he says there’s nothing incriminating on them. “However, we are told Casey spends a lot of time bashing her parents, George and Cindy Anthony,” Washington said.

WFTV anchor Greg Warmoth said of the letters, “Investigators told Eyewitness News they do contain damaging  evidence against her … but Casey’s defense team says they are not afraid of what’s in those letters.”

Defense attorney Jose Baez told Pipitone, “You’re going to find if you look at them … they’re of a person who’s locked up 23 hours a day. We have nothing to hide with those letters.”

WFTV showed footage of Baez saying, “If moved to keep them private, you guys are going to speculate all over the place about what’s in there.”
In her jail correspondence, Casey Anthony talked to drug dealer Robyn Adams, who is now in federal prison.

Earlier reports said that Anthony talks about food and what she’ll do when released.

WESH also reported that Anthony’s defense team is headed to Washington today to depose FBI analysts.

thanks.....I can't wait!!

hahahahaha...the FBI analysts will also have FBI attorneys....... both sets so far above BOZO's league ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 01:14:48 PM
Casey Anthony Jail Letters To Be Released
Posted: 12:07 pm EDT April 6,2010Updated: 1:00 pm EDT April 6,2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The 50 letters Casey Anthony wrote to another jail inmate may be released as soon as Tuesday afternoon. Investigators told WFTV they contain damaging evidence against her, but Casey's defense team said they are not afraid of what's in them.
<snipped>
Video:letter to be released  http://www.wftv.com/video/23067582/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 01:15:27 PM
BOO  Mason referred to Mr. NeJame (Paraphrasing) "The little lawyer for TES."  Whatever the exact words were, they were meant to denigrate Mr. Nejame because of his small stature.  I'm sure that Mr. Nejame would like very much to be taller, but IMO he is very tall when he stands on his integrity and ability.  It was just a low blow by Mason which didn't make NeJame look bad, but made Mason look bad indeed.

Mason is an azz.   ::MonkeyTongue::
Mason took a swipe at NeJame, saying the contentious hearing was expected “given the personality of the little player there for Texas.”
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/casey-anthony-fight-over-texas-equusearch-produces-fireworks.html/comment-page-2
Especially coming from someone that was dressed like a combination of Colonel Sanders and Vinny Gambini from My Cousin Vinny, geez  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 01:17:36 PM
Casey Anthony Jail Letters To Be Released
Posted: 12:07 pm EDT April 6,2010Updated: 1:00 pm EDT April 6,2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The 50 letters Casey Anthony wrote to another jail inmate may be released as soon as Tuesday afternoon. Investigators told WFTV they contain damaging evidence against her, but Casey's defense team said they are not afraid of what's in them.
<snipped>
Video:letter to be released  http://www.wftv.com/video/23067582/index.html
I'll tell you the defense sure likes to keep saying that they are not afraid of what is in the letters. Hmmm.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 01:26:10 PM
Who knocked me out of the cage?   ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on April 06, 2010, 01:29:43 PM
BOO  Mason referred to Mr. NeJame (Paraphrasing) "The little lawyer for TES."  Whatever the exact words were, they were meant to denigrate Mr. Nejame because of his small stature.  I'm sure that Mr. Nejame would like very much to be taller, but IMO he is very tall when he stands on his integrity and ability.  It was just a low blow by Mason which didn't make NeJame look bad, but made Mason look bad indeed.

I don't know why the Judge doesn't rap them on the knuckles when they get personal like that. So damn childish and unprofessional.


I think JS did just that, after all the defense didn't come close to getting what they wanted and I don't know what that meeting was at the end but Bozo and cohort came out looking a bit pi$$ed off IMO.

Hi Monkeys, just gonna sit on a branch next to you and wait for the letters to be released.....bring em on  ::MonkeyCheer4::


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Post by: monkalicious on April 06, 2010, 01:30:10 PM
Hey, Monkeys!  Time to celebrate!  ::monkeywine2::  I've been Scared Monkey-less for a whole day and a half!  What a time to lose your computer service.  Baah!
My internet is finally back on, I've been able to catch up a little bit, and I am so ready for the infamous Casey letters!  Your comments were all terrific.  I love Baez as "Pee Wee Herman".  That's perfect.  I've always wondered why he seemed so familiar.  ::MonkeyDevil::
So let's see those letters, Media...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 01:32:08 PM
 ::dogwag::

Good Afternoon - more on letters to be released.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/6/casey39s_letters_expected_to_be_released_tuesday.html

ORLANDO -- A judge is expected to release letters Casey Anthony wrote in jail to another inmate Tuesday.
News 13 has learned the letters have explicit descriptions of her family life and allegations that may surprise many people.
Anthony allegedly sent dozens of letters and notes to an inmate she met at the jail. That inmate is now in a federal prison.
We’re told some of the letters are about her parents, George and Cindy Anthony, and contain disturbing details of Anthony’s family life.

There are no admissions to guilt.
This was apart of an Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigation.
 On Monday, the defense said there is nothing of importance in these letters. Anthony’s lead attorney Jose Baez said "they are letters of a person who is locked up 23 hours a day."
The letters are expected to be released later this afternoon.

Meanwhile, a spokesman for the Orange County Jail said communication between inmates is not allowed and neither is passing of notes.         
A corrections officer was placed on paid leave right around the time this FDLE investigation came to light. The FDLE nor the jail are confirming they are related.
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 01:35:22 PM
Deenie,here comes the bus........    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 01:36:00 PM
Deenie,here comes the bus........    ::MonkeyCool::
You got that right Trimm  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 01:36:16 PM
Hey, Monkeys!  Time to celebrate!  ::monkeywine2::  I've been Scared Monkey-less for a whole day and a half!  What a time to lose your computer service.  Baah!
My internet is finally back on, I've been able to catch up a little bit, and I am so ready for the infamous Casey letters!  Your comments were all terrific.  I love Baez as "Pee Wee Herman".  That's perfect.  I've always wondered why he seemed so familiar.  ::MonkeyDevil::
So let's see those letters, Media...
::MonkeyDance::Glad you are back on


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 06, 2010, 01:37:12 PM
::dogwag::

Good Afternoon - more on letters to be released.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/6/casey39s_letters_expected_to_be_released_tuesday.html

ORLANDO -- A judge is expected to release letters Casey Anthony wrote in jail to another inmate Tuesday.
News 13 has learned the letters have explicit descriptions of her family life and allegations that may surprise many people.
Anthony allegedly sent dozens of letters and notes to an inmate she met at the jail. That inmate is now in a federal prison.
We’re told some of the letters are about her parents, George and Cindy Anthony, and contain disturbing details of Anthony’s family life.

There are no admissions to guilt.
This was apart of an Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigation.
 On Monday, the defense said there is nothing of importance in these letters. Anthony’s lead attorney Jose Baez said "they are letters of a person who is locked up 23 hours a day."
The letters are expected to be released later this afternoon.

Meanwhile, a spokesman for the Orange County Jail said communication between inmates is not allowed and neither is passing of notes.         
A corrections officer was placed on paid leave right around the time this FDLE investigation came to light. The FDLE nor the jail are confirming they are related.
--



Just as we smart Monkeys suspected!

Bring on the letters!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 06, 2010, 01:39:13 PM
I wonder if the reason why Lyons was not there yesterday has to do with the State now paying for the trial. Would they limit the amount of attorneys down to who is necessary and who is not? I know she is Pro Bono, but maybe she gets a little something for showing up?

With her huge EGO I'm betting that now Col Sanders is on board, that ship is not big enough for the both of them. Can you image her shock and dismay when Mason asked her to get him a cup of coffee!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::  She was supposed to be the savior, she was to be the one to swoop in and clean up the mess that Bozo made. Now that Mason's there, I'm sure he put her in her place and she's scampering off to lick her wounds. I mean, she's all about getting her face on TV and getting her name in the paper. WTF?

hi BOO!  I don't have an answer to your question....but since she is Pro Bono   IMO she will only show up, if at all, when it benefits her....I think she only took the case on to promote her new book and get free TV time to do so,

Not sure that worked so well for her.  The book is currently ranked Amazon.com Sales Rank: #277,822 in Books.  I think all 27 copies already sold have been her students and the ones she bought herself. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 01:40:05 PM
Hey, Monkeys!  Time to celebrate!  ::monkeywine2::  I've been Scared Monkey-less for a whole day and a half!  What a time to lose your computer service.  Baah!
My internet is finally back on, I've been able to catch up a little bit, and I am so ready for the infamous Casey letters!  Your comments were all terrific.  I love Baez as "Pee Wee Herman".  That's perfect.  I've always wondered why he seemed so familiar.  ::MonkeyDevil::
So let's see those letters, Media...
Glad you are back Monkalicious


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 01:43:17 PM
Deenie,here comes the bus........    ::MonkeyCool::
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f246/tjandz/Smileys/_thb_MG_Throw_Under_The_Bus-1.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 01:46:52 PM
I swear that Baez is part of these letters. That he knew she was writing them at the time.
That is why he is blowing it off like they are no big deal.
He " knows" what is in the letters are Casey's depictions of a horrible home life etc...

If he didn't know about the letters at the time, when he did get his hands on them he thought omg this is brilliant. The public will read the letters and see what a "victim" Casey is. That she admits herself on paper what it was like living with GA/CA. Since Casey has never spoken to anyone.. he thinks " This is great" because there is nothing to compare her words/letters to - of anything she has said in the past.

It's all in his favor so he believes. His comment yesterday in the court room that "They are trying to Kill Casey" ..what ever he said. It all fits. He wants the public to find Pity for her.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 01:48:14 PM
BOO  Mason referred to Mr. NeJame (Paraphrasing) "The little lawyer for TES."  Whatever the exact words were, they were meant to denigrate Mr. Nejame because of his small stature.  I'm sure that Mr. Nejame would like very much to be taller, but IMO he is very tall when he stands on his integrity and ability.  It was just a low blow by Mason which didn't make NeJame look bad, but made Mason look bad indeed.

I don't know why the Judge doesn't rap them on the knuckles when they get personal like that. So damn childish and unprofessional.


I think JS did just that, after all the defense didn't come close to getting what they wanted and I don't know what that meeting was at the end but Bozo and cohort came out looking a bit pi$$ed off IMO.

Hi Monkeys, just gonna sit on a branch next to you and wait for the letters to be released.....bring em on  ::MonkeyCheer4::

hi Miki.....bring em on is right!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 01:48:58 PM
Hey, Monkeys!  Time to celebrate!  ::monkeywine2::  I've been Scared Monkey-less for a whole day and a half!  What a time to lose your computer service.  Baah!
My internet is finally back on, I've been able to catch up a little bit, and I am so ready for the infamous Casey letters!  Your comments were all terrific.  I love Baez as "Pee Wee Herman".  That's perfect.  I've always wondered why he seemed so familiar.  ::MonkeyDevil::
So let's see those letters, Media...

glad to see you are back....just in time for the letters (I hope)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 01:51:54 PM
I wonder if the reason why Lyons was not there yesterday has to do with the State now paying for the trial. Would they limit the amount of attorneys down to who is necessary and who is not? I know she is Pro Bono, but maybe she gets a little something for showing up?

With her huge EGO I'm betting that now Col Sanders is on board, that ship is not big enough for the both of them. Can you image her shock and dismay when Mason asked her to get him a cup of coffee!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::  She was supposed to be the savior, she was to be the one to swoop in and clean up the mess that Bozo made. Now that Mason's there, I'm sure he put her in her place and she's scampering off to lick her wounds. I mean, she's all about getting her face on TV and getting her name in the paper. WTF?

hi BOO!  I don't have an answer to your question....but since she is Pro Bono   IMO she will only show up, if at all, when it benefits her....I think she only took the case on to promote her new book and get free TV time to do so,

Not sure that worked so well for her.  The book is currently ranked Amazon.com Sales Rank: #277,822 in Books.  I think all 27 copies already sold have been her students and the ones she bought herself. 

 ::lookie::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 01:55:32 PM
I swear that Baez is part of these letters. That he knew she was writing them at the time.
That is why he is blowing it off like they are no big deal.
He " knows" what is in the letters are Casey's depictions of a horrible home life etc...

If he didn't know about the letters at the time, when he did get his hands on them he thought omg this is brilliant. The public will read the letters and see what a "victim" Casey is. That she admits herself on paper what it was like living with GA/CA. Since Casey has never spoken to anyone.. he thinks " This is great" because there is nothing to compare her words/letters to - of anything she has said in the past.

It's all in his favor so he believes. His comment yesterday in the court room that "They are trying to Kill Casey" ..what ever he said. It all fits. He wants the public to find Pity for her.   

I don 't think he knew...he knows he could never control what she might write so I see no way he knew....but after seeing/reading them and knowing there was no legal way to keep them from being released he decided to act like it was not big deal. What else could he do....that or whine.  JMO of course.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 01:57:16 PM
I swear that Baez is part of these letters. That he knew she was writing them at the time.
That is why he is blowing it off like they are no big deal.
He " knows" what is in the letters are Casey's depictions of a horrible home life etc...

If he didn't know about the letters at the time, when he did get his hands on them he thought omg this is brilliant. The public will read the letters and see what a "victim" Casey is. That she admits herself on paper what it was like living with GA/CA. Since Casey has never spoken to anyone.. he thinks " This is great" because there is nothing to compare her words/letters to - of anything she has said in the past.

It's all in his favor so he believes. His comment yesterday in the court room that "They are trying to Kill Casey" ..what ever he said. It all fits. He wants the public to find Pity for her.   
That is exactly what this is all about. All part of the defense game.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 06, 2010, 01:58:12 PM
::dogwag::

Good Afternoon - more on letters to be released.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/6/casey39s_letters_expected_to_be_released_tuesday.html

ORLANDO -- A judge is expected to release letters Casey Anthony wrote in jail to another inmate Tuesday.
News 13 has learned the letters have explicit descriptions of her family life and allegations that may surprise many people.
Anthony allegedly sent dozens of letters and notes to an inmate she met at the jail. That inmate is now in a federal prison.
We’re told some of the letters are about her parents, George and Cindy Anthony, and contain disturbing details of Anthony’s family life.

There are no admissions to guilt.
This was apart of an Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigation.
 On Monday, the defense said there is nothing of importance in these letters. Anthony’s lead attorney Jose Baez said "they are letters of a person who is locked up 23 hours a day."
The letters are expected to be released later this afternoon.

Meanwhile, a spokesman for the Orange County Jail said communication between inmates is not allowed and neither is passing of notes.         
A corrections officer was placed on paid leave right around the time this FDLE investigation came to light. The FDLE nor the jail are confirming they are related.
--



Thanks----Here we go ... buckle up!  lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 02:02:41 PM
I ready for disturbing details of the Anthony family life  ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 02:03:14 PM
I ready for disturbing details of the Anthony family life  ::monkeywine2::
I'm ready, gee you would think I was already drinking  ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 02:03:51 PM
I wish we still had those webcams.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 02:05:25 PM
I ready for disturbing details of the Anthony family life  ::monkeywine2::
I'm ready, gee you would think I was already drinking  ::monkeywine2::

Bailey's?  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 06, 2010, 02:06:50 PM
Deenie,here comes the bus........    ::MonkeyCool::
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f246/tjandz/Smileys/_thb_MG_Throw_Under_The_Bus-1.gif)

Can anyone here me singing?? The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round, the wheels on the bus go round and round,
all through O-Town......... ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 02:10:57 PM
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/scaredmonkeys/valium-kitty3.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 02:12:23 PM
04/06/2010 Transaction Assessment 5.00
04/06/2010 Counter Payment Receipt #CR-2010-23792 MEDIA (5.00)
http://www.myorangeclerk.com/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 02:12:47 PM
I ready for disturbing details of the Anthony family life  ::monkeywine2::
I'm ready, gee you would think I was already drinking  ::monkeywine2::

Bailey's?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::   

I wonder if Cindy is ready for them!   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on April 06, 2010, 02:13:09 PM
I swear that Baez is part of these letters. That he knew she was writing them at the time.
That is why he is blowing it off like they are no big deal.
He " knows" what is in the letters are Casey's depictions of a horrible home life etc...

If he didn't know about the letters at the time, when he did get his hands on them he thought omg this is brilliant. The public will read the letters and see what a "victim" Casey is. That she admits herself on paper what it was like living with GA/CA. Since Casey has never spoken to anyone.. he thinks " This is great" because there is nothing to compare her words/letters to - of anything she has said in the past.

It's all in his favor so he believes. His comment yesterday in the court room that "They are trying to Kill Casey" ..what ever he said. It all fits. He wants the public to find Pity for her.   
If the tone of the letters is to blame her parents/someone else for what has happened to her Baez not only approved them,he probably dictated them  We haven't heard from Ms Hernandez yet ( Jail officer).  If you have seen Andrea Lyons' tapes from conventions, read any of her publications, she emphasizes repeating that - the State wants to kill  my client"- at least Baez learned one thing from her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 02:14:00 PM
Deenie,here comes the bus........    ::MonkeyCool::
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f246/tjandz/Smileys/_thb_MG_Throw_Under_The_Bus-1.gif)

Can anyone here me singing?? The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round, the wheels on the bus go round and round,
all through O-Town......... ::monkeywine2::

I can hear ya!   I'm singing with you!    ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on April 06, 2010, 02:14:57 PM
04/06/2010 Transaction Assessment 5.00
04/06/2010 Counter Payment Receipt #CR-2010-23792 MEDIA (5.00)
http://www.myorangeclerk.com/



I hope that's them!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 02:17:44 PM
I ready for disturbing details of the Anthony family life  ::monkeywine2::
I'm ready, gee you would think I was already drinking  ::monkeywine2::

Bailey's?  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Not yet  ::MonkeyWink:: Boy I sure wish we had the webcam also  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Tevye on April 06, 2010, 02:18:29 PM
I wish we still had those webcams.   ::MonkeyCool::
Dagnabit, I've done radiation and seen the doctor today. My 40 page term paper is all ready for printing. My end of class paper is also ready for printing. All I have to do now is write my speech and prepare my presentation for tomorrow night (I'm studying CinSin's facial expressions for the "how not to parent" portion of my speech!)....

So what I'm sayin' is: I've done my part. I have scheduled this afternoon for those darn letters from that illiterate trailer-trash Barbie (not to dis anyone who ever lived in a trailer park...however, if you did and murdered your daughter, then, yeah, I'm dissin' ya!) and so I want to know:

WHERE'S THE DARN LETTERS? C'MON PEOPLE, I HAVE DEADLINES TO MEET!!

Maybe I should break my ban and do a few of these  ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 02:18:52 PM
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/scaredmonkeys/valium-kitty3.gif)
Just what we need  ::MonkeyCheer4:: Seeme I've been singing that tune all morning. ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 02:19:08 PM
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/scaredmonkeys/valium-kitty3.gif)

 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 02:19:39 PM
I ready for disturbing details of the Anthony family life  ::monkeywine2::
I'm ready, gee you would think I was already drinking  ::monkeywine2::

Bailey's?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::   

I wonder if Cindy is ready for them!   ::MonkeyTongue::
She better be, here we go. If they had any shame they just might be embarrassed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 06, 2010, 02:20:15 PM
I ready for disturbing details of the Anthony family life  ::monkeywine2::

 ::MonkeyDevil::   It's five o'clock somewhere.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 02:20:37 PM
I swear that Baez is part of these letters. That he knew she was writing them at the time.
That is why he is blowing it off like they are no big deal.
He " knows" what is in the letters are Casey's depictions of a horrible home life etc...

If he didn't know about the letters at the time, when he did get his hands on them he thought omg this is brilliant. The public will read the letters and see what a "victim" Casey is. That she admits herself on paper what it was like living with GA/CA. Since Casey has never spoken to anyone.. he thinks " This is great" because there is nothing to compare her words/letters to - of anything she has said in the past.

It's all in his favor so he believes. His comment yesterday in the court room that "They are trying to Kill Casey" ..what ever he said. It all fits. He wants the public to find Pity for her.   
If the tone of the letters is to blame her parents/someone else for what has happened to her Baez not only approved them,he probably dictated them  We haven't heard from Ms Hernandez yet ( Jail officer).  If you have seen Andrea Lyons' tapes from conventions, read any of her publications, she emphasizes repeating that - the State wants to kill  my client"- at least Baez learned one thing from her.
I'm with you on that, she got tips on what to write.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 02:20:41 PM
I ready for disturbing details of the Anthony family life  ::monkeywine2::
I'm ready, gee you would think I was already drinking  ::monkeywine2::

Bailey's?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Coconut rum cream ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on April 06, 2010, 02:20:54 PM
I swear that Baez is part of these letters. That he knew she was writing them at the time.
That is why he is blowing it off like they are no big deal.
He " knows" what is in the letters are Casey's depictions of a horrible home life etc...

If he didn't know about the letters at the time, when he did get his hands on them he thought omg this is brilliant. The public will read the letters and see what a "victim" Casey is. That she admits herself on paper what it was like living with GA/CA. Since Casey has never spoken to anyone.. he thinks " This is great" because there is nothing to compare her words/letters to - of anything she has said in the past.

It's all in his favor so he believes. His comment yesterday in the court room that "They are trying to Kill Casey" ..what ever he said. It all fits. He wants the public to find Pity for her.   
That is exactly what this is all about. All part of the defense game.


I think the only reason Bozo isn't screaming to high heaven about these letters is that Mason stopped him, I don't like Mason but he is much wiser than Bozo. There was nothing they could have done about them so just pretend they aren't important. Or...maybe they are going to use them later as mitigating circumstances....who knows. Of course they could be the inane rambling of a resentful shut in but I'm ready...lets get going.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 02:21:50 PM
I ready for disturbing details of the Anthony family life  ::monkeywine2::
I'm ready, gee you would think I was already drinking  ::monkeywine2::

Bailey's?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::   

I wonder if Cindy is ready for them!   ::MonkeyTongue::
Cindy has probably written a statement, has it memorized, so when "She"  is on the news "She" will be prepared. What Casey wrote is simply not true ... :smt016 chew gum chew gum, I know my daughter and she has a vivid imagination...How would you feel if you were locked up in a jail cell for all that time...chew gum, chew gum...you would lose all sense of reality too ..chew gum, chew gum...

 ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 02:22:04 PM
I wish we still had those webcams.   ::MonkeyCool::
Dagnabit, I've done radiation and seen the doctor today. My 40 page term paper is all ready for printing. My end of class paper is also ready for printing. All I have to do now is write my speech and prepare my presentation for tomorrow night (I'm studying CinSin's facial expressions for the "how not to parent" portion of my speech!)....

So what I'm sayin' is: I've done my part. I have scheduled this afternoon for those darn letters from that illiterate trailer-trash Barbie (not to dis anyone who ever lived in a trailer park...however, if you did and murdered your daughter, then, yeah, I'm dissin' ya!) and so I want to know:

WHERE'S THE DARN LETTERS? C'MON PEOPLE, I HAVE DEADLINES TO MEET!!

Maybe I should break my ban and do a few of these  ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2::
Good for you  ::MonkeyAngel:: Might as well break your ban and enjoy the day  ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 02:23:58 PM
Go Tevye!   ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on April 06, 2010, 02:24:34 PM
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/scaredmonkeys/valium-kitty3.gif)

 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


I just put cat nip on my fur baby's scratching pad...it keeps him loving this  piece of carpet for at least an hour or two....otherwise he will be on my keyboard or trying to snuggle.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 02:26:32 PM
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/scaredmonkeys/valium-kitty3.gif)

 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


I just put cat nip on my fur baby's scratching pad...it keeps him loving this  piece of carpet for at least an hour or two....otherwise he will be on my keyboard or trying to snuggle.
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 02:27:50 PM
I ready for disturbing details of the Anthony family life  ::monkeywine2::
I'm ready, gee you would think I was already drinking  ::monkeywine2::

Bailey's?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::   

I wonder if Cindy is ready for them!   ::MonkeyTongue::
Cindy has probably written a statement, has it memorized, so when "She"  is on the news "She" will be prepared. What Casey wrote is simply not true ... :smt016 chew gum chew gum, I know my daughter and she has a vivid imagination...How would you feel if you were locked up in a jail cell for all that time...chew gum, chew gum...you would lose all sense of reality too ..chew gum, chew gum...

 ::MonkeyWink::

ROFLMAO.   I love the "chew gum, chew gum" part.     ::MonkeyHaHa::   You really got her down good!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 02:28:39 PM
I wish we still had those webcams.   ::MonkeyCool::

me too....so many times in the past weeks I've wished the same thing ::lookie::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 06, 2010, 02:29:50 PM
I ready for disturbing details of the Anthony family life  ::monkeywine2::
I'm ready, gee you would think I was already drinking  ::monkeywine2::

Bailey's?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::   

I wonder if Cindy is ready for them!   ::MonkeyTongue::
Cindy has probably written a statement, has it memorized, so when "She"  is on the news "She" will be prepared. What Casey wrote is simply not true ... :smt016 chew gum chew gum, I know my daughter and she has a vivid imagination...How would you feel if you were locked up in a jail cell for all that time...chew gum, chew gum...you would lose all sense of reality too ..chew gum, chew gum...

 ::MonkeyWink::

ROFLMAO.   I love the "chew gum, chew gum" part.     ::MonkeyHaHa::   You really got her down good!

you are all cracking me up today! ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 02:30:12 PM
I wish we still had those webcams.   ::MonkeyCool::
Dagnabit, I've done radiation and seen the doctor today. My 40 page term paper is all ready for printing. My end of class paper is also ready for printing. All I have to do now is write my speech and prepare my presentation for tomorrow night (I'm studying CinSin's facial expressions for the "how not to parent" portion of my speech!)....

So what I'm sayin' is: I've done my part. I have scheduled this afternoon for those darn letters from that illiterate trailer-trash Barbie (not to dis anyone who ever lived in a trailer park...however, if you did and murdered your daughter, then, yeah, I'm dissin' ya!) and so I want to know:

WHERE'S THE DARN LETTERS? C'MON PEOPLE, I HAVE DEADLINES TO MEET!!

Maybe I should break my ban and do a few of these  ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2::

Tevye...........YOU ARE AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 02:32:28 PM
I ready for disturbing details of the Anthony family life  ::monkeywine2::
I'm ready, gee you would think I was already drinking  ::monkeywine2::

Bailey's?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::   

I wonder if Cindy is ready for them!   ::MonkeyTongue::
Cindy has probably written a statement, has it memorized, so when "She"  is on the news "She" will be prepared. What Casey wrote is simply not true ... :smt016 chew gum chew gum, I know my daughter and she has a vivid imagination...How would you feel if you were locked up in a jail cell for all that time...chew gum, chew gum...you would lose all sense of reality too ..chew gum, chew gum...

 ::MonkeyWink::
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 02:33:14 PM

So, do you think the media is waiting until their afternoon news programs before they release the letters to the public?

              (http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww161/4Siamese/impatient.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 02:33:41 PM


you are all cracking me up today! ::MonkeyKiss::
Me too Cookie, hi to you by the way  ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 02:34:13 PM

So, do you think the media is waiting until their afternoon news programs before they release the letters to the public?

              (http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww161/4Siamese/impatient.gif)
That is adorable Sass  ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 02:34:33 PM

So, do you think the media is waiting until their afternoon news programs before they release the letters to the public?

              (http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww161/4Siamese/impatient.gif)
Looks just like Kathi Belich  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 06, 2010, 02:37:14 PM
I wish we still had those webcams.   ::MonkeyCool::
Dagnabit, I've done radiation and seen the doctor today. My 40 page term paper is all ready for printing. My end of class paper is also ready for printing. All I have to do now is write my speech and prepare my presentation for tomorrow night (I'm studying CinSin's facial expressions for the "how not to parent" portion of my speech!)....

So what I'm sayin' is: I've done my part. I have scheduled this afternoon for those darn letters from that illiterate trailer-trash Barbie (not to dis anyone who ever lived in a trailer park...however, if you did and murdered your daughter, then, yeah, I'm dissin' ya!) and so I want to know:

WHERE'S THE DARN LETTERS? C'MON PEOPLE, I HAVE DEADLINES TO MEET!!

Maybe I should break my ban and do a few of these  ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2::

Tevye...........YOU ARE AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

She sure is!

Cracks me up too. LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: BooMonkey on April 06, 2010, 02:42:14 PM
Come on now!! I want those letters! I have my ciggies, I have my coffee, dinner is ordered and the dogs are potty'd.

I need some entertainment now! Can't wait to see what Miss Poopy Pants thinks about all day! Is how mean Mommy Dearest is? How Georgette wouldn't shine her shoes for her? How really spicy her nuts really were that day? How Little Lee just doesn't get it?

Come on people, let's get this bus moving!!   ::piggy::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 02:42:34 PM

So, do you think the media is waiting until their afternoon news programs before they release the letters to the public?

             

yep!! ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 02:45:54 PM

So, do you think the media is waiting until their afternoon news programs before they release the letters to the public?

              (http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww161/4Siamese/impatient.gif)
::MonkeyDance:: Or they are laughing hysterically and haven't composed themselves yet  ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 06, 2010, 02:53:26 PM
 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 06, 2010, 02:54:40 PM


you are all cracking me up today! ::MonkeyKiss::
Me too Cookie, hi to you by the way  ::HelloKitty::

hi!  are u at work today or are u at home today awaiting these letters??? I sure hope that they are worth our wait!!! ::piggy::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 03:00:17 PM


you are all cracking me up today! ::MonkeyKiss::
Me too Cookie, hi to you by the way  ::HelloKitty::

hi!  are u at work today or are u at home today awaiting these letters??? I sure hope that they are worth our wait!!! ::piggy::
::MonkeyBath2::  At work peeking in  ::MonkeyWink::  What I am waiting for is the aftermath of Spindy wooo hooo.  ::FlyingFrog::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 06, 2010, 03:00:35 PM
Come on now!! I want those letters! I have my ciggies, I have my coffee, dinner is ordered and the dogs are potty'd.

I need some entertainment now! Can't wait to see what Miss Poopy Pants thinks about all day! Is how mean Mommy Dearest is? How Georgette wouldn't shine her shoes for her? How really spicy her nuts really were that day? How Little Lee just doesn't get it?

Come on people, let's get this bus moving!!   ::piggy::

It is so painful to wait. You'd think we would be used to this by now. But not me!

Boo: Left you a post at http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg1105562#msg1105562


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 03:01:12 PM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069066.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 03:03:57 PM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069066.pdf
We are now ready to ruuuuuuumble  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 03:04:01 PM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069066.pdf

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::   Yay!   Thanks Trimm!      ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 06, 2010, 03:04:24 PM
I have cleaned my living room windows (5 panes floor to ceiling) inside and out, washed and hung the curtains out on the line some twice (why do curtains have to be long enough to step on?) and have my veggies cut for my turkey stir fry for dinner.  Dog has been walked and I am ready.  Lets roll! 

Dearest drug dealer friend. 

Can you beleive they surved us that coleslaw again last night?  Before I was in here I never toucged coleslaw, did nto even know what a cole or a slaw looks liek in teh store.  Guess they keep those away from the white sunglasses and beer.  I can not wait for the day I get out.  My parents are so going to pay for telling me I am the boss.  I will be the boss when I get out of here.  My dreamy lawyer Jose has arranged for me to do the talk show circuit.  Mama Lyon has taught me how to cry on queue.  I knwo once I get done with Geraldo,  Oprah will be so jealous and I will be on her favorite things show and get to take hoem all those free things. 

Commisary order is due today so I better stock up on my spicy nuts.  They are good protein and they remind me of all the boy toys that I have waiting for me. 

BFF 4 eva

GTG

KC

PS I really miss speel checker


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 06, 2010, 03:06:29 PM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069066.pdf

Way to go, Trimm!  Just want to show those who cannot d/l a pdf right now, because you are at work or somethihng, what the first one looks like! OMG!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image265.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Tevye on April 06, 2010, 03:07:31 PM
I wish we still had those webcams.   ::MonkeyCool::
Dagnabit, I've done radiation and seen the doctor today. My 40 page term paper is all ready for printing. My end of class paper is also ready for printing. All I have to do now is write my speech and prepare my presentation for tomorrow night (I'm studying CinSin's facial expressions for the "how not to parent" portion of my speech!)....

So what I'm sayin' is: I've done my part. I have scheduled this afternoon for those darn letters from that illiterate trailer-trash Barbie (not to dis anyone who ever lived in a trailer park...however, if you did and murdered your daughter, then, yeah, I'm dissin' ya!) and so I want to know:

WHERE'S THE DARN LETTERS? C'MON PEOPLE, I HAVE DEADLINES TO MEET!!

Maybe I should break my ban and do a few of these  ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2::

Tevye...........YOU ARE AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nah, I'm just impatient and getting  ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2:: !


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 03:08:04 PM
http://www.wesh.com/index.html
Casey Anthony Jailhouse Letters Released
24-Year-Old Charged With Daughter's Death

POSTED: 5:57 am EDT April 6, 2010
UPDATED: 2:55 pm EDT April 6, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
Secret letters written by Casey Anthony will come to light Tuesday.

The 24-year-old passed along letters to fellow inmate Robyn Adams, who Anthony's defense team is calling a jailhouse snitch.

"Jailhouse snitches are a big problem. They lie to benefit themselves," Orlando defense attorney Richard Hornsby said.

Anthony was able to exchange around 50 letters with the woman.
Anthony letters Part 1:  http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069066.pdf
The letters offer a first glimpse into Anthony's life in jail. She is being held at the Orange County Jail on no bond charged with murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee Marie Anthony. Caylee's remains were found in a wooded area off Suburban Drive near the Anthony family home in December 2008. The young mother maintains a nanny by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee.

According to court papers, there are 258 pages believed to be hand written by Anthony.

"The amount of notes isn't very shocking," Hornsby said.

A jailhouse investigation revealed a correctional officer delivered the letters between the two women from their cell.

Jose Baez, Anthony's lead attorney, did not object to the release of these letters because he said there was nothing incriminating in them, but apparently Anthony spends a lot of time bashing her parents, George and Cindy Anthony.
Prosecutors most likely will use these letters against Anthony in her murder case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: joesamas mama on April 06, 2010, 03:11:03 PM
 ::MonkeyEek:: Have y'all read the I LIKE MONKEYS letter?  ::MonkeyShocked:: Page 37 in the document? Talks about killing monkeys and decomposing monkeys  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: I don't get that one I am just skimming through right now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 03:11:07 PM
Thanks Brandi, her handwriting is going to have my eyes crossed  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: BamaMonkey on April 06, 2010, 03:11:20 PM

So, do you think the media is waiting until their afternoon news programs before they release the letters to the public?

              (http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww161/4Siamese/impatient.gif)

How cute!   I resemble that right now.  lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 06, 2010, 03:12:43 PM
Thanks Brandi, her handwriting is going to have my eyes crossed  ::MonkeyEek::

I am on page 3 and my eyes are crossed and I am suffering from vertigo already! OMG.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 06, 2010, 03:13:42 PM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069066.pdf
Thanks, Trimm.  I'm already sick of her, and I just started reading...
Where's the wine?  Oh, here is, thank goodness!
 ::monkeywine2::

(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff95/shamlin1/flask.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 06, 2010, 03:15:10 PM
So she wants to buy a custom RV with her "new sister? and the two artist/photographers are going traveling.  How cute for her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 03:15:43 PM
She writes I was a great mom  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 03:16:26 PM
Thanks Brandi, her handwriting is going to have my eyes crossed  ::MonkeyEek::

I am on page 3 and my eyes are crossed and I am suffering from vertigo already! OMG.
I will have to take many breaks  ::MonkeyEek:: one right now in fact.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 03:18:16 PM
So she wants to buy a custom RV with her "new sister? and the two artist/photographers are going traveling.  How cute for her.
I saw that RV statement - I about cracked up.  But OMG she really does believe she is getting out!!  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on April 06, 2010, 03:18:27 PM
Geeez............ I think Casey is the prototype for "having the handwriting of a serial killer"! It's like trying to read what the wicked Witch of the East wrote with her green fingernails!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: BooMonkey on April 06, 2010, 03:18:51 PM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069066.pdf

OMG, OMG, OMG!!!!   ::MonkeyShocked:: Ooooo Little Lee isn't going to keep quiet about this one!!!  ::piggy::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 03:19:46 PM
So she wants to buy a custom RV with her "new sister? and the two artist/photographers are going traveling.  How cute for her.
I saw that RV statement - I about cracked up.  But OMG she really does believe she is getting out!!  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::
That chick isn't right in the head  ::MonkeyNoNo:: at all is she right in the head, wow.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on April 06, 2010, 03:20:14 PM
She writes I was a great mom  ::MonkeyEek::

I know!  ::MonkeyShocked:: She's still waiting for her name to be called to accept Cindy's  "Mother of the Year" award!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 03:20:24 PM
On page 8, she talks about Lee touching her breasts and Cindy blaming her for it.    Looks like Cindy is going under the bus.   ::MonkeyEek::

This girl is so full of bull.   Unbelievable.    ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 06, 2010, 03:20:41 PM
So she wants to buy a custom RV with her "new sister? and the two artist/photographers are going traveling.  How cute for her.

She is talking about adopting a child someday!

 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 03:22:25 PM
So she wants to buy a custom RV with her "new sister? and the two artist/photographers are going traveling.  How cute for her.

She is talking about adopting a child someday!

 ::MonkeyEek::

And how God is on her side.    ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::    I wonder who her god is........    ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 06, 2010, 03:23:41 PM
This is like reading a 12 year old's diary!  Self serving Crap, people think she looks like Alyssa Milano?  In what universe?  Okay, now I'm just annoyed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on April 06, 2010, 03:24:36 PM
On page 8, she talks about Lee touching her breasts and Cindy blaming her for it.    Looks like Cindy is going under the bus.   ::MonkeyEek::

This girl is so full of bull.   Unbelievable.    ::MonkeyNoNo::



Also talks about GA possibly molesting her when she was very young......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 03:24:56 PM
 ::MonkeyShocked:: I cannot get in ...... Cant get to the pdf at all.

have to reboot .........  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 03:28:42 PM
Part 2  http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on April 06, 2010, 03:30:23 PM
I wonder how Lee's gonna react to Casey herself putting this stuff in writing?   ::MonkeyHaHa:: The Ants are gonna have a hard time denying Casey's authorship to this one!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on April 06, 2010, 03:31:00 PM
Part 2  http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

Thanks, Trimm!!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 03:31:41 PM
Monkalicious....  it's two for Tuesday.    ::MonkeyJnBox::  ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 06, 2010, 03:32:15 PM
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/33142493/Casey-Anthony--letters-released-part-two-April-6-2010


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on April 06, 2010, 03:32:17 PM
This is like reading a 12 year old's diary!  Self serving Crap, people think she looks like Alyssa Milano?  In what universe?  Okay, now I'm just annoyed.

Maybe she's overheard people say she looks like Alyssa Milano's Horse?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 03:32:31 PM
She addresses "Zany" on page 11.     No wonder Bozo didn't fight this crap being released.   Pure propaganda.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 06, 2010, 03:33:23 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ... if it weren't for my unconditional love for my daughter, I would end whoever is responsible.  It's not my battle.  You want to know something, I know that Caylee's nanny, the "real" Zenaida, the girl who was my friend for 4 years, I know in my heart that she is not responsible. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 06, 2010, 03:34:38 PM
Thanks Brandi, her handwriting is going to have my eyes crossed  ::MonkeyEek::

It is like reading a 7th grade girl's diary notes. Geesh, I am convinced even more now that girl is emotionally and mentally stunted.  I am just skimming them and will go over them line by line later.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 06, 2010, 03:36:22 PM
did that first letter say "Cookie"?  grrrrrrr.....

her hand writing is going to do my eyes in but I will persevere!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 06, 2010, 03:37:07 PM
Part 2  http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

Thanks, Trimm!

Good Lord, part one is 516 pages in pdf form.

I have to keep stopping reading to focus on something outside my window to keep my eyes from permanently crossing on me!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 06, 2010, 03:37:21 PM
Monkalicious....  it's two for Tuesday.    ::MonkeyJnBox::  ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2::
I'm going for Three...
::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2::
Her quoting scripture and constant references to God offend me. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 06, 2010, 03:37:57 PM
Part 2  http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

Thanks, Trimm!

Good Lord, part one is 516 pages in pdf form.

I have to keep stopping reading to focus on something outside my window to keep my eyes from permanently crossing on me!



Me, too.  And the bile from forming.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 03:39:18 PM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069066.pdf

OMG, OMG, OMG!!!!   ::MonkeyShocked:: Ooooo Little Lee isn't going to keep quiet about this one!!!  ::piggy::

LOL...yep so far Lee sexually abused her and she THINKS her DAD DID TOO.....I had to take a break when she talked about Caylee.  I wanted to do her bodily harm..in other words slap the chit outta her!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 03:40:22 PM
Thanks Brandi, her handwriting is going to have my eyes crossed  ::MonkeyEek::

It is like reading a 7th grade girl's diary notes. Geesh, I am convinced even more now that girl is emotionally and mentally stunted.  I am just skimming them and will go over them line by line later.
I am more convinced also ::MonkeyNoNo:: I'm going to go read some more.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on April 06, 2010, 03:40:29 PM
She's angry and disappointed in our country's legal system and thats speaking as someone not well off......I don't know how much of this BS I can stand to read. It is drivel.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on April 06, 2010, 03:41:29 PM
Ohhhhh, I think we're getting a glimpse of current or one time legal strategies.

She asked Zanny to keep Caylee a few days so she could "put together money" to leave with Caylee? She has "seizures" in her sleep?

She probably thought she could pass off stealing money as a desperate attempt to get away from her incestual family, but on the other hand, she does have seizures in her sleep so if they nail her, she can claim to have no memory! What a POS!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 03:41:33 PM
Monkalicious....  it's two for Tuesday.    ::MonkeyJnBox::  ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2::
I'm going for Three...
::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2::
Her quoting scripture and constant references to God offend me. 

me too and so typical for criminals..... ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 03:42:11 PM
She not only wants to adopt, but from another country, Ireland, accent and all  ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 06, 2010, 03:44:22 PM
why am I not able to access the letters from the links? it tells me to go outside my browser, adobe won't show up or something like that....grrrr...anyone got any ideas???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 03:46:28 PM
she says she had seizures when she was out in September and more since she has been in jail.............due to stress!  I'd like to show her some stress!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 03:47:40 PM
She not only wants to adopt, but from another country, Ireland, accent and all  ::monkeywine2::

 ::MonkeyRoll::    Like that's ever going to happen.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 03:48:00 PM
I just got back on since 8:30 this morning, my internet service went down for 5 hours  OMG


I havent read back so if this was posted already, excuse the repeat but this is the first thing I saw checking for the letters

Jail Letters: Casey Says She Used Chloroform On Caylee  ::MonkeyShocked::

Posted: 12:07 pm EDT April 6,2010
Updated: 3:36 pm EDT April 6,2010

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The 50 letters Casey Anthony wrote to another jail inmate were released Tuesday afternoon (read letters). Investigators told WFTV they contain damaging evidence against her, but Casey's defense team said they are not afraid of what's in them.
In the letters, Casey told inmate Robyn Adams that she had been sexually abused by both her brother, Lee Anthony and her father, George Anthony. Casey said that Lee Anthony had sexual intercourse with her until she was 15 and claimed that she was molested by George when she was younger, but did not elaborate further.
Adams said Casey told her that Caylee had trouble sleeping and she had to used chloroform to put her to sleep. Also, Casey Anthony implied to Robyn Adams that her mother, Cindy Anthony, brought chloroform home from the clinic where she worked.
CASEY JAIL LETTERS: Read Them All
Although Casey Anthony and Robyn Adams agreed to flush the letters after reading them, Adams kept them and mailed them to her friend, later identified as, Tracey Nealley.
Casey also confided to Adams that there was no “Zenaida.” She believes that may have been written in one of the letters she sent to Tracey Nealley.
There are 50 or so letters, 258 pages in total, Casey Anthony passed to a pen pal as she sat in jail. The letters were sent to another inmate, Robyn Adams, and allegedly passed to her by a guard who is now on paid leave from the Orange County jail, Silvia Hernandez.
“If you look at them within the context, they're of a person locked up 23 hours a day,” attorney
Jose Baez said after a hearing in the case Monday.
Baez told WFTV Casey's team is not concerned about the content of the letters and not releasing them would have been worse, because that would have left questions about their content.
Casey has been in the Orange County jail since July 2008. She's in protective custody and is not supposed to have direct communication with other inmates.

OK now I have to read back here & read these ....grr I cant even begin to tell you the riot act I gave Com****


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 06, 2010, 03:49:23 PM
she calls herself the other inmates own personal paralegal   ::monkeywine2::

She also thinks that the people who write to her are crazy. 

...like the letters and cards I received over the past two days.  I can't help but think these people are crazy, but I love them just the same......

 ::monkeywine2::    ::monkeywine2::    ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 06, 2010, 03:50:16 PM
::MonkeyEek:: Have y'all read the I LIKE MONKEYS letter?  ::MonkeyShocked:: Page 37 in the document? Talks about killing monkeys and decomposing monkeys  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: I don't get that one I am just skimming through right now.

 ::MonkeyEek::   I've only made it to pg. 24 and think she's batty.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 03:50:49 PM
She not only wants to adopt, but from another country, Ireland, accent and all  ::monkeywine2::

 ::MonkeyRoll::    Like that's ever going to happen.   
I do believe she was molested, I've thought that for a long time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 03:50:49 PM
why am I not able to access the letters from the links? it tells me to go outside my browser, adobe won't show up or something like that....grrrr...anyone got any ideas???

Not sure.   I wish I could help you.   But I do know that Adobe has been having a lot of updates lately.   ::MonkeyConfused::

Could it be that you need to get your updates installed?   just a thought.....   I'm not real smart on the computer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 03:51:07 PM
Cookie,read this
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/328/328233.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on April 06, 2010, 03:51:34 PM
OMG................ I can't take it!

Everyone's telling her she's "glowing?"

I say we put her azz in the electirc chair and really light her up!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 06, 2010, 03:52:12 PM
Thanks Brandi, her handwriting is going to have my eyes crossed  ::MonkeyEek::

You & me both.   Gadzooks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 03:52:26 PM
She not only wants to adopt, but from another country, Ireland, accent and all  ::monkeywine2::

 ::MonkeyRoll::    Like that's ever going to happen.   
I do believe she was molested, I've thought that for a long time.

Actually, that wouldn't surprise me at all, really.     ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 03:53:20 PM
OMG................ I can't take it!

Everyone's telling her she's "glowing?"

I say we put her azz in the electirc chair and really light her up!   ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

She's in LaLa land.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 06, 2010, 03:54:05 PM
On page 8, she talks about Lee touching her breasts and Cindy blaming her for it.    Looks like Cindy is going under the bus.   ::MonkeyEek::

This girl is so full of bull.   Unbelievable.    ::MonkeyNoNo::



Also talks about GA possibly molesting her when she was very young......

I don't believe her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on April 06, 2010, 03:55:18 PM
I just got back on since 8:30 this morning, my internet service went down for 5 hours  OMG


I havent read back so if this was posted already, excuse the repeat but this is the first thing I saw checking for the letters

Jail Letters: Casey Says She Used Chloroform On Caylee  ::MonkeyShocked::

Posted: 12:07 pm EDT April 6,2010
Updated: 3:36 pm EDT April 6,2010

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The 50 letters Casey Anthony wrote to another jail inmate were released Tuesday afternoon (read letters). Investigators told WFTV they contain damaging evidence against her, but Casey's defense team said they are not afraid of what's in them.
In the letters, Casey told inmate Robyn Adams that she had been sexually abused by both her brother, Lee Anthony and her father, George Anthony. Casey said that Lee Anthony had sexual intercourse with her until she was 15 and claimed that she was molested by George when she was younger, but did not elaborate further.
Adams said Casey told her that Caylee had trouble sleeping and she had to used chloroform to put her to sleep. Also, Casey Anthony implied to Robyn Adams that her mother, Cindy Anthony, brought chloroform home from the clinic where she worked.
CASEY JAIL LETTERS: Read Them All
Although Casey Anthony and Robyn Adams agreed to flush the letters after reading them, Adams kept them and mailed them to her friend, later identified as, Tracey Nealley.
Casey also confided to Adams that there was no “Zenaida.” She believes that may have been written in one of the letters she sent to Tracey Nealley.
There are 50 or so letters, 258 pages in total, Casey Anthony passed to a pen pal as she sat in jail. The letters were sent to another inmate, Robyn Adams, and allegedly passed to her by a guard who is now on paid leave from the Orange County jail, Silvia Hernandez.
“If you look at them within the context, they're of a person locked up 23 hours a day,” attorney
Jose Baez said after a hearing in the case Monday.
Baez told WFTV Casey's team is not concerned about the content of the letters and not releasing them would have been worse, because that would have left questions about their content.
Casey has been in the Orange County jail since July 2008. She's in protective custody and is not supposed to have direct communication with other inmates.

OK now I have to read back here & read these ....grr I cant even begin to tell you the riot act I gave Com****

 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: WOO HOO!! Keep talking, Casey! Atta girl! Spit the dirt out and keep digging your own grave!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 06, 2010, 03:55:39 PM
OMG................ I can't take it!

Everyone's telling her she's "glowing?"

I say we put her azz in the electirc chair and really light her up!   ::MonkeyCool::

I'm with you. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 03:56:55 PM
She not only wants to adopt, but from another country, Ireland, accent and all  ::monkeywine2::

 ::MonkeyRoll::    Like that's ever going to happen.   
I do believe she was molested, I've thought that for a long time.

Actually, that wouldn't surprise me at all, really.     ::MonkeyEek::
I really do believe that. I can't read some of this, it is sideways, WTH


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 06, 2010, 03:57:07 PM
Monkalicious....  it's two for Tuesday.    ::MonkeyJnBox::  ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2::
I'm going for Three...
::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2::
Her quoting scripture and constant references to God offend me. 

Me too ... she's real screwed up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on April 06, 2010, 03:58:11 PM
I don't believe for one second that she was molested by GA or LA- she is a habitual liar, always has been, everyone who ever knew her knows that. This is a contrived effort by Baez and her to paint a picture of poor me, sad abused girl.
It is also absolute BS that Cindy brought home Chloroform from her clinic. Any RN can tell you that Chloroform has not been in general use in MANY years. She has pushed LA and GA under the bus, and with this statement here goes CA.     I bet the A's are fuming today and for once I feel for them, they have the most vicious b***h for a daughter and her Lawyer is an incompetent, unethical rat who ought to be disbarred.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 03:58:21 PM
OMG................ I can't take it!

Everyone's telling her she's "glowing?"

I say we put her azz in the electirc chair and really light her up!   ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyDevil::  Good one,I like it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 06, 2010, 03:58:49 PM
Anyone recognize the name Joyce Story?

"dear friend recently adopted into my family, Joyce Story"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 03:59:38 PM
She not only wants to adopt, but from another country, Ireland, accent and all  ::monkeywine2::

 ::MonkeyRoll::    Like that's ever going to happen.   
I do believe she was molested, I've thought that for a long time.

Actually, that wouldn't surprise me at all, really.     ::MonkeyEek::
I really do believe that. I can't read some of this, it is sideways, WTH

Turn your computer sideways.    ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyRoll::   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 06, 2010, 04:01:02 PM
I gotta take a break.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 04:02:26 PM
I just got back on since 8:30 this morning, my internet service went down for 5 hours  OMG


I havent read back so if this was posted already, excuse the repeat but this is the first thing I saw checking for the letters

Jail Letters: Casey Says She Used Chloroform On Caylee  ::MonkeyShocked::

Posted: 12:07 pm EDT April 6,2010
Updated: 3:36 pm EDT April 6,2010

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The 50 letters Casey Anthony wrote to another jail inmate were released Tuesday afternoon (read letters). Investigators told WFTV they contain damaging evidence against her, but Casey's defense team said they are not afraid of what's in them.
In the letters, Casey told inmate Robyn Adams that she had been sexually abused by both her brother, Lee Anthony and her father, George Anthony. Casey said that Lee Anthony had sexual intercourse with her until she was 15 and claimed that she was molested by George when she was younger, but did not elaborate further.
Adams said Casey told her that Caylee had trouble sleeping and she had to used chloroform to put her to sleep. Also, Casey Anthony implied to Robyn Adams that her mother, Cindy Anthony, brought chloroform home from the clinic where she worked.
CASEY JAIL LETTERS: Read Them All
Although Casey Anthony and Robyn Adams agreed to flush the letters after reading them, Adams kept them and mailed them to her friend, later identified as, Tracey Nealley.
Casey also confided to Adams that there was no “Zenaida.” She believes that may have been written in one of the letters she sent to Tracey Nealley.
There are 50 or so letters, 258 pages in total, Casey Anthony passed to a pen pal as she sat in jail. The letters were sent to another inmate, Robyn Adams, and allegedly passed to her by a guard who is now on paid leave from the Orange County jail, Silvia Hernandez.
“If you look at them within the context, they're of a person locked up 23 hours a day,” attorney
Jose Baez said after a hearing in the case Monday.
Baez told WFTV Casey's team is not concerned about the content of the letters and not releasing them would have been worse, because that would have left questions about their content.
Casey has been in the Orange County jail since July 2008. She's in protective custody and is not supposed to have direct communication with other inmates.

OK now I have to read back here & read these ....grr I cant even begin to tell you the riot act I gave Com****

 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: WOO HOO!! Keep talking, Casey! Atta girl! Spit the dirt out and keep digging your own grave!

OMG, this chick is beyond evil!   Seriously, why would she EVER utter that knowing she is facing the DP?   Does she think she can pass that off as an accident, especially after admitting there was no nanny!  No wonder why Cindy is protecting her, according to Casey her mother provided her the weapon!  What mother EVER gives her child chloroform so that they will sleep???   Id fry someone for an overdose of cough syrup much less this well known toxic substance...if this doesnt nail her sorry arse to the gurney I dont know what will.    Defense not afraid of what is contained, my butt - the truth is they dont care because its never been about saving Casey much to their rantings, for them its about face time & money, well I hope they are prepared to hear that they are ALL morons for not getting her a plea deal.    I am riled and I havent even read them all yet.

The "abuse" somehow I dont believe it, not for a second...from someone else in different circumstances I would give it the benefit of the doubt for both personal & semi-professional reasons BUT my instinct says no sexual abuse occurred.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 06, 2010, 04:02:45 PM
::MonkeyEek:: Have y'all read the I LIKE MONKEYS letter?  ::MonkeyShocked:: Page 37 in the document? Talks about killing monkeys and decomposing monkeys  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: I don't get that one I am just skimming through right now.

 ::MonkeyEek::   I've only made it to pg. 24 and think she's batty.   

Page 45, she is discussing books she is going to write. Uh huh.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image268.png)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 04:02:46 PM
This is like reading a 12 year old's diary!  Self serving Crap, people think she looks like Alyssa Milano?  In what universe?  Okay, now I'm just annoyed.

Maybe she's overheard people say she looks like Alyssa Milano's Horse?
::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 04:02:57 PM
Sassy....    ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 04:02:58 PM
I don't believe for one second that she was molested by GA or LA- she is a habitual liar, always has been, everyone who ever knew her knows that. This is a contrived effort by Baez and her to paint a picture of poor me, sad abused girl.
It is also absolute BS that Cindy brought home Chloroform from her clinic. Any RN can tell you that Chloroform has not been in general use in MANY years. She has pushed LA and GA under the bus, and with this statement here goes CA.     I bet the A's are fuming today and for once I feel for them, they have the most vicious b***h for a daughter and her Lawyer is an incompetent, unethical rat who ought to be disbarred.

There is no way Bozo would have allowed these letters to be released unless it was for their benefit.     ::MonkeyMad::

Its almost as though the whole thing was planned from the beginning.   Did someone get paid off to participate in this plan, I wonder?   just sayin....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 06, 2010, 04:03:07 PM
Page 32 she is talking about Georgies stint at the Hawaiian.  Then she writes she GOT A LETTER FROM GEORGIE.

Thought the A's, Conway, Bobo and the whole team say there has been no communication?  That bus wheel base is getting bigger and bigger.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 04:04:26 PM
Sassy....    ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::   

I've only read about 30 pages and I have a splitting headache now.    ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 04:04:50 PM
Sassy....    ::MonkeyHaHa::
Maybe I should turn the computer sideways, maybe that will work  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 06, 2010, 04:05:01 PM
She not only wants to adopt, but from another country, Ireland, accent and all  ::monkeywine2::

 ::MonkeyRoll::    Like that's ever going to happen.   
I do believe she was molested, I've thought that for a long time.

Actually, that wouldn't surprise me at all, really.     ::MonkeyEek::
I really do believe that. I can't read some of this, it is sideways, WTH

Turn your computer sideways.    ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyRoll::   ::MonkeyKiss::

I always download the pdf files then open them in my pdf reader. (Adobe, usually.) You can click on View in the menu then rotate page.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on April 06, 2010, 04:05:11 PM
She not only wants to adopt, but from another country, Ireland, accent and all  ::monkeywine2::

 ::MonkeyRoll::    Like that's ever going to happen.   
I do believe she was molested, I've thought that for a long time.

Actually, that wouldn't surprise me at all, really.     ::MonkeyEek::
I really do believe that. I can't read some of this, it is sideways, WTH



I'm having the same problems. I can barely read it to begin with and now its sideways.......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 04:05:55 PM
I don't believe for one second that she was molested by GA or LA- she is a habitual liar, always has been, everyone who ever knew her knows that. This is a contrived effort by Baez and her to paint a picture of poor me, sad abused girl.
It is also absolute BS that Cindy brought home Chloroform from her clinic. Any RN can tell you that Chloroform has not been in general use in MANY years. She has pushed LA and GA under the bus, and with this statement here goes CA.     I bet the A's are fuming today and for once I feel for them, they have the most vicious b***h for a daughter and her Lawyer is an incompetent, unethical rat who ought to be disbarred.

There is no way Bozo would have allowed these letters to be released unless it was for their benefit.     ::MonkeyMad::

Its almost as though the whole thing was planned from the beginning.   Did someone get paid off to participate in this plan, I wonder?   just sayin....
Wonder how much the jail lady got for delivering all the letters?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 04:06:39 PM
http://www.wftv.com/index.html
Jail Letters: Casey Says She Used Chloroform On Caylee
In the jail letters released Tuesday afternoon, Casey Anthony tells an inmate that she used chloroform on Caylee. Full Story ››
Posted: 12:07 pm EDT April 6,2010Updated: 4:00 pm EDT April 6,2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The dozens of letters Casey Anthony wrote to another jail inmate were released Tuesday afternoon (read them). Investigators told WFTV they contain damaging evidence against her, but Casey's defense team said they are not afraid of what's in them.

In the letters, Casey told inmate Robyn Adams that she had been sexually abused by both her brother, Lee Anthony, and her father, George Anthony. Casey said that Lee Anthony had sexual intercourse with her until she was 15 and claimed that she was molested by George when she was younger, but did not elaborate further.

Adams said Casey told her that Caylee had trouble sleeping and she had to used chloroform to put her to sleep. Also, Casey Anthony implied to Robyn Adams that her mother, Cindy Anthony, brought chloroform home from the clinic where she worked.
Although Casey Anthony and Robyn Adams agreed to flush the letters after reading them, Adams kept them and mailed them to her friend, later identified as, Tracey Nealley.

Casey also confided to Adams that there was no “Zenaida.” Adams believes that may have been written in one of the letters she sent to Tracey Nealley.

In an interview with Orange County detective, Yuri Melich, an inmate named Maya Derkovic who was in prison at the same time as Casey Anthony, told him the two established a friendship and repeatedly spoke through the ventilation system.

During the conversations, Maya Derkovic asked Casey about the circumstances of Caylee’s disappearance. Derkovic said Casey told her three different versions of what happened to Caylee.

The first version, detective Melich states, was the same one Casey told him. The second version was that the babysitter was asked to come to Casey’s house to watch Caylee while Casey went out. When Casey returned, both the babysitter and Caylee were gone. Another version was about the same except when Casey returned to the empty home, she found a note claiming Caylee had been abducted.

Derkovic told Melich during the interview that when Casey would return to her cell from visits with her family, she would make derogatory remarks about her mother, Cindy Anthony.

“Her parents would come and that’s when she would make comments about her mom. And I asked her, ’Well how was your visit and how did it go?’ And she’ll make comments like, ’Well it’s alright; at least the bitch knows how I feel now.’”

Derkovich also claims, “She’ll talk about well how her mom never really cared about her that much. All she cared about was Caylee and she knows what it fells like to miss somebody and to feel pain and stuff like that.”

“If you look at them within the context, they're of a person locked up 23 hours a day,” attorney Jose Baez said after a hearing in the case Monday.

Baez told WFTV Casey's team is not concerned about the content of the letters and not releasing them would have been worse, because that would have left questions about their content.

Casey has been in the Orange County jail since July 2008. She's in protective custody and is not supposed to have direct communication with other inmates. A guard, Silvia Hernandez, is now on paid leave from the Orange County jail in connection with the exchange of letters.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 04:07:18 PM
I don't believe for one second that she was molested by GA or LA- she is a habitual liar, always has been, everyone who ever knew her knows that. This is a contrived effort by Baez and her to paint a picture of poor me, sad abused girl.
It is also absolute BS that Cindy brought home Chloroform from her clinic. Any RN can tell you that Chloroform has not been in general use in MANY years. She has pushed LA and GA under the bus, and with this statement here goes CA.     I bet the A's are fuming today and for once I feel for them, they have the most vicious b***h for a daughter and her Lawyer is an incompetent, unethical rat who ought to be disbarred.

There is no way Bozo would have allowed these letters to be released unless it was for their benefit.     ::MonkeyMad::

Its almost as though the whole thing was planned from the beginning.   Did someone get paid off to participate in this plan, I wonder?   just sayin....

The thing is Bozo and company thought wrong & it will backfire on them BIG TIME....definite morons.    PS Wonder if "Georgie" will be sending his monster money now...stupid tool


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 04:07:48 PM
Sassy....    ::MonkeyHaHa::
Maybe I should turn the computer sideways, maybe that will work  ::MonkeyHaHa::

That's what I had to do.   They should have been kind to us and scanned the documents the right way.    ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 04:08:06 PM
Sassy....    ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::   

I've only read about 30 pages and I have a splitting headache now.    ::MonkeyTongue::

I know.I would give Casey's two front teeth for a Lortab right now.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 06, 2010, 04:08:18 PM
Sassy....    ::MonkeyHaHa::
Maybe I should turn the computer sideways, maybe that will work  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Right click on the page and it will say "rotate clockwise" and keep doing that until you can read it.  And then  ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 04:09:31 PM
OMG................ I can't take it!

Everyone's telling her she's "glowing?"

I say we put her azz in the electirc chair and really light her up!   ::MonkeyCool::

I'm with you. 



Ditto!!  It's very difficult on my neck reading the ones that are in there sideways!!  Ugh gotta take a break!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 06, 2010, 04:09:52 PM
She says that Cindy is "milking" her leave of absence. Huh.
Boy, I'll bet Cindy and George are sure proud of their loving daughter...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 04:10:27 PM
Anyone recognize the name Joyce Story?

"dear friend recently adopted into my family, Joyce Story"

no me. but I jotted it down to look and see what I could find later on


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 04:11:10 PM
These letters started quite a while ago she is talking about Caylee's service  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 04:11:21 PM
Sassy....    ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::   

I've only read about 30 pages and I have a splitting headache now.    ::MonkeyTongue::

I know.I would give Casey's two front teeth for a Lortab right now.   ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 06, 2010, 04:11:32 PM
thanks for the ideas on how to get these letters on my computer...not working...I have a good adblock and my anti virus won't allow certain things on here...oh well,,,I will try a few other things...enjoying reading your comments though!
how could Bozo think that this would not have been harmful to Casey Ho??? he is such an idiot!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 04:11:38 PM
She not only wants to adopt, but from another country, Ireland, accent and all  ::monkeywine2::

 ::MonkeyRoll::    Like that's ever going to happen.   
I do believe she was molested, I've thought that for a long time.

Actually, that wouldn't surprise me at all, really.     ::MonkeyEek::
I really do believe that. I can't read some of this, it is sideways, WTH

Turn your computer sideways.    ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyRoll::   ::MonkeyKiss::

hahahaha  don't laugh Miss Sassy....I tried doing just that!  LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 04:12:23 PM
She says that Cindy is "milking" her leave of absence. Huh.
Boy, I'll bet Cindy and George are sure proud of their loving daughter...

Id like to frame these letters for them & put a bow on it...fudging losers are protecting an absolute evil monster & disrespecting their granddaughter in the process.    He!! isnt good enough for these people!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 04:12:33 PM
Sassy....    ::MonkeyHaHa::
Maybe I should turn the computer sideways, maybe that will work  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Right click on the page and it will say "rotate clockwise" and keep doing that until you can read it.  And then  ::monkeywine2::
Thanks, I actually tried turning my head to read it and now my neck hurts  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on April 06, 2010, 04:12:40 PM
Sassy....    ::MonkeyHaHa::
Maybe I should turn the computer sideways, maybe that will work  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Right click on the page and it will say "rotate clockwise" and keep doing that until you can read it.  And then  ::monkeywine2::


Thank you, that worked. now can you do anything about KC's awful handwriting?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 06, 2010, 04:12:48 PM
Sassy....    ::MonkeyHaHa::
Maybe I should turn the computer sideways, maybe that will work  ::MonkeyHaHa::

If you save them to your computer you can right click your mouse and turn them the right way to read them. Of course then some of them go back to the other way and you have to turn them again, but it is better than turning your computer. LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 04:13:26 PM
Jose told her she WOULD have a man???????????????????????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 06, 2010, 04:13:55 PM
Oh, wait til you hear this one.  She gives kudos to Judge Strickland because he wants her dress appropriately for court, because his "intent is to help her public image."  Egocentric little .....
I have very low blood pressure and I think I've found the cure.  Just read these stupid letters over and over...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on April 06, 2010, 04:14:34 PM
She says that Cindy is "milking" her leave of absence. Huh.
Boy, I'll bet Cindy and George are sure proud of their loving daughter...

And that's probably the only true thing she has said. Anyone can see that CA should have had her 'disability' pay stopped a long time ago.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 06, 2010, 04:15:32 PM
She says that Cindy is "milking" her leave of absence. Huh.
Boy, I'll bet Cindy and George are sure proud of their loving daughter...

Id like to frame these letters for them & put a bow on it...fudging losers are protecting an absolute evil monster & disrespecting their granddaughter in the process.    He!! isnt good enough for these people!

Mail one a day to Hopespring drive.   ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on April 06, 2010, 04:16:07 PM
she wants a leather bomber jacket and biker boots. I can see how that could replace losing a child. Not.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on April 06, 2010, 04:16:19 PM
How long will it be before the A's respond to her comments?  I give it a few days then BC will say that KC obviously needs Psychiatric care, not jail.... ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on April 06, 2010, 04:16:29 PM
She says that Cindy is "milking" her leave of absence. Huh.
Boy, I'll bet Cindy and George are sure proud of their loving daughter...

Ohhhh, keep going, Mission!!

Cindy stiffed a visit with Casey and trademarked Caylee's name! Casey just can't beleive that Cindy is capitalizing on all of this!

Oh My! Me either!   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 04:16:31 PM
Oh, wait til you hear this one.  She gives kudos to Judge Strickland because he wants her dress appropriately for court, because his "intent is to help her public image."  Egocentric little .....
I have very low blood pressure and I think I've found the cure.  Just read these stupid letters over and over...

Beeoth please, he just doesnt want to look at your fugliness and would hope your counsel would at least make an effort to have you appear less repulsive....narcissistic ho


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 04:16:36 PM
I have yet to find it " her words on Chloroform" .. but doesn't she " Casey" know that it is illegal and is not used in any Doc's office "in today's society" . For her to say that Cindy gingerly brought it into the Ant house to use on Caylee..........  ::MonkeyMad::

My brain is snapping .. I am still on the first page of her letters.

This is a lot to consume. Much more than I thought it would be. The allegations of Lee ?? I don't know what to think. With his actions at Caylee's Memorial and the CMA kissing his wrists .. His display of sounding like a grief stricken lover ..and not the Uncle of his dead niece. (Precious Caylee) ... My brain is spinning.

These letters are going to take awhile to ingest.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 06, 2010, 04:17:46 PM
Sassy....    ::MonkeyHaHa::
Maybe I should turn the computer sideways, maybe that will work  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Right click on the page and it will say "rotate clockwise" and keep doing that until you can read it.  And then  ::monkeywine2::

Thank you, that worked. now can you do anything about KC's awful handwriting?

Sure wish I could.  It's really hard to slog through her teenybopper-ish inanities, and the handwriting is dreadful. Oh, well, back to digging through it.. ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 04:17:47 PM
IS it just me but some of these letter sounds like letters to a lover....not a mere friend


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on April 06, 2010, 04:17:48 PM
Jose told her she WOULD have a man???????????????????????

 ::MonkeyEek:: I missed that one Sunny!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 04:18:35 PM
I have yet to find it " her words on Chloroform" .. but doesn't she " Casey" know that it is illegal and is not used in any Doc's office "in today's society" . For her to say that Cindy gingerly brought it into the Ant house to use on Caylee..........  ::MonkeyMad::

My brain is snapping .. I am still on the first page of her letters.

This is a lot to consume. Much more than I thought it would be. The allegations of Lee ?? I don't know what to think. With his actions at Caylee's Memorial and the CMA kissing his wrists .. His display of sounding like a grief stricken lover ..and not the Uncle of his dead niece. (Precious Caylee) ... My brain is spinning.

These letters are going to take awhile to ingest.
Yup, that display of Lee's was very creepy, and that is what it sounded like a grief stricken lover  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 04:19:07 PM
Jose told her she WOULD have a man???????????????????????

 ::MonkeyEek:: I missed that one Sunny!!
Where in the jail? ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 04:19:14 PM
IS it just me but some of these letter sounds like letters to a lover....not a mere friend

Let's not forget this girl would do a pole


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 06, 2010, 04:19:24 PM
I have yet to find it " her words on Chloroform" .. but doesn't she " Casey" know that it is illegal and is not used in any Doc's office "in today's society" . For her to say that Cindy gingerly brought it into the Ant house to use on Caylee..........  ::MonkeyMad::

My brain is snapping .. I am still on the first page of her letters.

This is a lot to consume. Much more than I thought it would be. The allegations of Lee ?? I don't know what to think. With his actions at Caylee's Memorial and the CMA kissing his wrists .. His display of sounding like a grief stricken lover ..and not the Uncle of his dead niece. (Precious Caylee) ... My brain is spinning.

These letters are going to take awhile to ingest.
Yup, that display of Lee's was very creepy, and that is what it sounded like a grief stricken lover  ::MonkeyNoNo::

it was soooooo creepy!
!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 06, 2010, 04:19:32 PM
Jose told her she WOULD have a man???????????????????????
Well, someday, when Baez turns into a real boy!
 ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 06, 2010, 04:21:17 PM
She says that Cindy is "milking" her leave of absence. Huh.
Boy, I'll bet Cindy and George are sure proud of their loving daughter...

And that's probably the only true thing she has said. Anyone can see that CA should have had her 'disability' pay stopped a long time ago.   

And GA has not been honest about his work? Shock! *Not*

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image270.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on April 06, 2010, 04:23:45 PM
I have yet to find it " her words on Chloroform" .. but doesn't she " Casey" know that it is illegal and is not used in any Doc's office "in today's society" . For her to say that Cindy gingerly brought it into the Ant house to use on Caylee..........  ::MonkeyMad::

My brain is snapping .. I am still on the first page of her letters.

This is a lot to consume. Much more than I thought it would be. The allegations of Lee ?? I don't know what to think. With his actions at Caylee's Memorial and the CMA kissing his wrists .. His display of sounding like a grief stricken lover ..and not the Uncle of his dead niece. (Precious Caylee) ... My brain is spinning.

These letters are going to take awhile to ingest.



The mention of chloroform is buried somewhere in this tome of BS.  I keep hoping if I wade far enough in it that I'll find it, but I have doubts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 04:25:03 PM
Jose told her she WOULD have a man???????????????????????

 ::MonkeyEek:: I missed that one Sunny!!
Where in the jail? ::MonkeyEek::

when she was fantasizing about sitting on the couch with her new sister and niece and nephew...watching TV...........sorry didn't note the page number..............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 04:26:52 PM
She says that Cindy is "milking" her leave of absence. Huh.
Boy, I'll bet Cindy and George are sure proud of their loving daughter...

And that's probably the only true thing she has said. Anyone can see that CA should have had her 'disability' pay stopped a long time ago.   

And GA has not been honest about his work? Shock! *Not*

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image270.png)

HOLEY MOLEY I AM NOT THERE YET...but can't wait to read more....just had to take a break and get my neck back in the right place on my shoulders


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 06, 2010, 04:30:05 PM
No possible comment can I leave about Casey's sense of Betrayal by her mother.

But obviously she has written to her parents.

Sounds like Baez is the one who delivers said letters.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image272.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 04:31:57 PM
HLN is talking about it now briefly...discussing that Adams said Casey admitted that she used chloroform to "knock out" her daughter & that she was sexually abused.  NG is covering it tonight, O god she really needs to take advice not to show the same clips over and over but Ill watch just the same to see who says what.   Im sure Mike Galanos & JVM will cover it to some extent as well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 04:33:37 PM
thanks for the ideas on how to get these letters on my computer...not working...I have a good adblock and my anti virus won't allow certain things on here...oh well,,,I will try a few other things...enjoying reading your comments though!
how could Bozo think that this would not have been harmful to Casey Ho??? he is such an idiot!
Cookie if you have a throw away email I will email the docs for you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 04:34:50 PM
No possible comment can I leave about Casey's sense of Betrayal by her mother.

But obviously she has written to her parents.

Sounds like Baez is the one who delivers said letters.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image272.png)

Are we to understand that this may be around the time of Cindy's farce of a memorial which was more like an Anthony infomercial & defense fund public announcement?   Around the time that Casey made that public statement?    She did NOTHING to protect Caylee, its so obvious what she did now - TO SPITE HER MOTHER


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 06, 2010, 04:35:00 PM
She tells Robyn that "Eric" is the father.  (I feel like Maury Povich on one of his paternity shows--"Eric, you ARE the father.")  Do you think she really knows?  And she is so dismissive of Jessie.  I'll bet he's heaving a huge sigh of relief that he's away from her.  (Tony, too.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 04:35:11 PM
Sassy....    ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::   

I've only read about 30 pages and I have a splitting headache now.    ::MonkeyTongue::

I know.I would give Casey's two front teeth for a Lortab right now.   ::MonkeyTongue::
OMG LMAO!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 04:36:03 PM
Jose told her she WOULD have a man???????????????????????

 ::MonkeyEek:: I missed that one Sunny!!
Where in the jail? ::MonkeyEek::

when she was fantasizing about sitting on the couch with her new sister and niece and nephew...watching TV...........sorry didn't note the page number..............

I just happen to be in that area right now.   She talks about the adopted sister, niece and nephew on Page 41.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 06, 2010, 04:39:04 PM
She tells Robyn that "Eric" is the father.  (I feel like Maury Povich on one of his paternity shows--"Eric, you ARE the father.")  Do you think she really knows?  And she is so dismissive of Jessie.  I'll bet he's heaving a huge sigh of relief that he's away from her.  (Tony, too.)

I was thinking she was talking about Eric being the father of the miscarriage.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 04:44:04 PM
Did you all get to the part where she speaks of moving & finding her daughter....no beeotch you're not going there, the devil has your reservation.    Did you also catch around p426 of the Wesh link where she calls her attorneys "her boys"  "Ill leave the lawyering to my boys."   Twisted evil self-absorbed monster


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 04:48:02 PM
Jose told her she WOULD have a man???????????????????????

 ::MonkeyEek:: I missed that one Sunny!!
Where in the jail? ::MonkeyEek::

when she was fantasizing about sitting on the couch with her new sister and niece and nephew...watching TV...........sorry didn't note the page number..............
Thanks, wow. I don't think I will ever finish part one  ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 04:48:28 PM
Report on Robin Adams  http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069951/detail.html
Supplemental  Report    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069761/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 06, 2010, 04:51:15 PM
She tells Robyn that "Eric" is the father.  (I feel like Maury Povich on one of his paternity shows--"Eric, you ARE the father.")  Do you think she really knows?  And she is so dismissive of Jessie.  I'll bet he's heaving a huge sigh of relief that he's away from her.  (Tony, too.)

I was thinking she was talking about Eric being the father of the miscarriage.
Maybe I got it wrong, I thought she was referring to an encounter right before Jessie, and then thinking Jessie was the dad of Caylee.  Let me see, page 65--No, she actually says there were a couple of possibilities, Caylee's dad, Eric and Jessie.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 04:51:18 PM
She misses hugs kisses etc.....sigh but soon enough. 

WTH is she for real?  First off she isn't getting out and second who the he!! does she think would even entertain the thought of touching her???  OMG she is more twisted than a colored TV.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 04:51:21 PM
Baez told her he is sorry that she never met a man that was deserving of her, it is now time to hurl  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 04:51:56 PM
Sassy....    ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::   

I've only read about 30 pages and I have a splitting headache now.    ::MonkeyTongue::

I know.I would give Casey's two front teeth for a Lortab right now.   ::MonkeyTongue::
OMG LMAO!!!!

Hubby just came in and wants to know about the letters and when the trial is gonna be.Two minutes into it his eyes glazed over.I think he needs a pill now.    ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 04:52:16 PM
Her idea of shopping is Target & Publix, dont take offense to this anyone because I shop there always but if I were a narcissistic sociopath delusional with the thought she would be getting away with murder, you'd think one would be dreaming of something a bit more upscale than your average day-to-day establishments.   This may seem picky but goodness she is both classless & stunted in every aspect of life.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 04:52:17 PM
She misses hugs kisses etc.....sigh but soon enough. 

WTH is she for real?  First off she isn't getting out and second who the he!! does she think would even entertain the thought of touching her???  OMG she is more twisted than a colored TV.
She is delusional if you ask me. And what is all the talk about religion?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 04:56:31 PM
She misses hugs kisses etc.....sigh but soon enough. 

WTH is she for real?  First off she isn't getting out and second who the he!! does she think would even entertain the thought of touching her???  OMG she is more twisted than a colored TV.
She is delusional if you ask me. And what is all the talk about religion?

Id like to give her the kiss of death yesterday, reading this just makes my blood boil more.   Many of us were right on the money that she absolutely thinks she is going to get away with this (tks to her mother getting her out of so many messes before is part of that reason).  O Casey, you are so sorely WRONG!   All Im left with is waiting for the day we see her get that lil piece of news, because it is coming - Justice for Caylee is coming.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 06, 2010, 04:57:10 PM
She misses hugs kisses etc.....sigh but soon enough. 

WTH is she for real?  First off she isn't getting out and second who the he!! does she think would even entertain the thought of touching her???  OMG she is more twisted than a colored TV.
She is delusional if you ask me. And what is all the talk about religion?

Well, you know they say so many incarcerated find God in prison.

But if you ask me, she has carried this religious thing WAY too far.

Talk about delusional!

 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 04:59:21 PM
Her idea of shopping is Target & Publix, dont take offense to this anyone because I shop there always but if I were a narcissistic sociopath delusional with the thought she would be getting away with murder, you'd think one would be dreaming of something a bit more upscale than your average day-to-day establishments.   This may seem picky but goodness she is both classless & stunted in every aspect of life.
I agree, she is a mental midget Cappy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 06, 2010, 05:01:47 PM
She thought she was going to be out by late summer?!?!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Image274.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 06, 2010, 05:02:02 PM
I don't believe for one second that she was molested by GA or LA- she is a habitual liar, always has been, everyone who ever knew her knows that. This is a contrived effort by Baez and her to paint a picture of poor me, sad abused girl.
It is also absolute BS that Cindy brought home Chloroform from her clinic. Any RN can tell you that Chloroform has not been in general use in MANY years. She has pushed LA and GA under the bus, and with this statement here goes CA.     I bet the A's are fuming today and for once I feel for them, they have the most vicious b***h for a daughter and her Lawyer is an incompetent, unethical rat who ought to be disbarred.

I agree with you ... she's written self-serving bullcrap.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 06, 2010, 05:04:29 PM
Sassy....    ::MonkeyHaHa::
Maybe I should turn the computer sideways, maybe that will work  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   I'm standing on my head.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 06, 2010, 05:09:41 PM
page 44

I am extremely grateful to Mike & Michelle for taking your case.  Gabe speaks nothing but the truth.  He's my adopted brother.  Mike & Michelle wrote a couple appeals in my case that were nothing short of phenomenal.  I put all of my faith and trust in their abilities and I know they will pull a great victory for you


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 05:11:11 PM
She misses hugs kisses etc.....sigh but soon enough. 

WTH is she for real?  First off she isn't getting out and second who the he!! does she think would even entertain the thought of touching her???  OMG she is more twisted than a colored TV.
She is delusional if you ask me. And what is all the talk about religion?

Well, you know they say so many incarcerated find God in prison.

But if you ask me, she has carried this religious thing WAY too far.

Talk about delusional!

 ::MonkeyEek::
Way too far  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 06, 2010, 05:11:18 PM
Sassy....    ::MonkeyHaHa::
Maybe I should turn the computer sideways, maybe that will work  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Right click on the page and it will say "rotate clockwise" and keep doing that until you can read it.  And then  ::monkeywine2::

Thank you, that worked. now can you do anything about KC's awful handwriting?

Sure wish I could.  It's really hard to slog through her teenybopper-ish inanities, and the handwriting is dreadful. Oh, well, back to digging through it.. ::MonkeyShovel::

It's just like her to write it so as to cause retina damage.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 05:13:12 PM
page 121... tells someone in a letter that she can tell by the notes kc is not quite all up there....... ::MonkeyJnBox::  no chit!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Curly on April 06, 2010, 05:13:28 PM
O
M
G
I haven't finished reading yet, but I don't know what to say except she's insane and living in her own fantasy world.
She's thrown every family member under the bus, and so far, Lee's gotten the worst of it. I don't know what to think.
She could really be insane.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 05:13:52 PM
page 121... tells someone in a letter that she can tell by the notes kc is not quite all up there....... ::MonkeyJnBox::  no chit!!!
::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 05:14:39 PM
O
M
G
I haven't finished reading yet, but I don't know what to say except she's insane and living in her own fantasy world.
She's thrown every family member under the bus, and so far, Lee's gotten the worst of it. I don't know what to think.
She could really be insane.
I can't argue about being insane.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: BooMonkey on April 06, 2010, 05:15:02 PM
Hmmmm interesting, on page 28 of this link http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf
it states that Brad Conway turned over a journal belonging to Casey Marie Anthony on 2/12/10!

Was Cindy keeping this evidence until she needed to pull out the big guns? Was she anticipating her Mother of the Year to toss her under the bus?  Very interesting. Wonder what's in the journal?   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 05:15:42 PM
O
M
G
I haven't finished reading yet, but I don't know what to say except she's insane and living in her own fantasy world.
She's thrown every family member under the bus, and so far, Lee's gotten the worst of it. I don't know what to think.
She could really be insane.

She's not insane, she is evil.   Absolutely calculated & manipulative


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 06, 2010, 05:18:10 PM
She misses hugs kisses etc.....sigh but soon enough. 

WTH is she for real?  First off she isn't getting out and second who the he!! does she think would even entertain the thought of touching her???  OMG she is more twisted than a colored TV.
She is delusional if you ask me. And what is all the talk about religion?

Well, you know they say so many incarcerated find God in prison.

But if you ask me, she has carried this religious thing WAY too far.

Talk about delusional!

 ::MonkeyEek::
Way too far  ::MonkeyEek::

And her "God" AKA "Papa" speaks to her through her sneezes!

(He confirms her thoughts by making her sneeze as she writes them.)

 ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 05:18:58 PM
page 44

I am extremely grateful to Mike & Michelle for taking your case.  Gabe speaks nothing but the truth.  He's my adopted brother.  Mike & Michelle wrote a couple appeals in my case that were nothing short of phenomenal.  I put all of my faith and trust in their abilities and I know they will pull a great victory for you
What?  Has she adopted the world?  Gag me  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 05:20:31 PM
She misses hugs kisses etc.....sigh but soon enough. 

WTH is she for real?  First off she isn't getting out and second who the he!! does she think would even entertain the thought of touching her???  OMG she is more twisted than a colored TV.
She is delusional if you ask me. And what is all the talk about religion?

Well, you know they say so many incarcerated find God in prison.

But if you ask me, she has carried this religious thing WAY too far.

Talk about delusional!

 ::MonkeyEek::
Way too far  ::MonkeyEek::

And her "God" AKA "Papa" speaks to her through her sneezes!

(He confirms her thoughts by making her sneeze as she writes them.)

 ::MonkeyRoll::

That right there is an attempt to appear insane.    She is clearly setting up to be a victim of many & not in her right mind which to me is an admittance of guilt.   An innocent person would not be strategically thinking of how to get out of something but would totally rely on the truth.


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Post by: Ono on April 06, 2010, 05:21:14 PM
Her idea of shopping is Target & Publix, dont take offense to this anyone because I shop there always but if I were a narcissistic sociopath delusional with the thought she would be getting away with murder, you'd think one would be dreaming of something a bit more upscale than your average day-to-day establishments.   This may seem picky but goodness she is both classless & stunted in every aspect of life.

LOL---I'd be dreaming of Tiffany's.


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Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 05:22:03 PM
IS it just me but some of these letter sounds like letters to a lover....not a mere friend
Sunny WHO knows who Casey was actually writing to. I mean yes it was written to this woman. But in Casey's twisted Nugget who knows what drifted off ..and how. 
She probably at one time did Romance this woman - Because that is the only way Casey survives is by Romancing the ppl she thinks she has in the palm of her hand.
Going back to N2WSN's ( N2's) Post. That is what Casey is all about - she is a Chameleon of many colors and has no identity unless she is the spotlight and she feels she can control = the focal person she is " Loving/Romancing" at the moment. 
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I am still literally on the first pages. My PC took a crash. I had to reload Acrobat and wait.
Her references on page one of God .....phffft. Her references to Jesse being Italian, That Her Irish roots are important " That Irish men are drunks, yet can cook and take care of their women".. I am befuddled ... Who is she speaking of ? George? Lee?
Casey's words - page 4.
" My situation with living at home with Cays and my folks, Staying home all day ( I thought she was employed) and going out at night looking for Mr. Right, Same exact situation, I don't know one single mom who doesn't try to get their freedom regardless of how old they are. That's one of the biggest thing that cutts me when I hear them talk about me as a mother. I was a great mom. " she underlined Great though.
--
That statement right there is very telling. That she felt herself that SHE nor Caylee had any Validity as Mom/Daughter - unless there was a Mr. Right " to take care of them" in the picture. And knowing that Casey was head over crotch (sorry I am upset righting this) In Love Lust with Tony ..who said that he didn't want Daughters. That he said in his own way, he was not ready for a woman with a child. Irregardless Casey felt * in her head * soon Tony was to be that Mr. Right .. She saw him as her future Hubs. How many times did she scribble his name with hearts Mrs Tony Lazzaro... And that he was going to college and had a future ahead of himself. ( I don't think for a moment he included Casey in it) Yet she felt he was Her End all.
--- Sorry her perception of being a Single Mom just put me over.  Since I was a Single Mom at 24. What about being Self Sufficient and Getting a JOB and making one self proud? To be able to stand on two feet and live life as a Single Mom with her head held high? I achieved something on my own for my Daughter to be proud of me??
No, not in Casey's mind. It was much easier to " Rid " the problem permanently - meaning I had to kill Caylee in order to Free myself. For Mr. Right.
Casey is so self indulgent.
She is so Addicted to MEN being her Save and or protector.. and yet she hates them at the same time. I see it in her words. She actually hates Men as much as she lusts them.
I don't know what to think ( have not read yet her accusation's of being molested) but I can tell this by her written words - I think she could convince herself of anything - Just like when she signed her name on Amy's Checks ..( She got away with signing her Name Casey Anthony yes by a dork of an Employee Not seeing the Sig/Check Name did not Match ) Key is she still Signed Casey Anthony to Amy's Checks -Because she has no fear. NONE. She is a sociopath.
http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html


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Post by: Puzzler on April 06, 2010, 05:22:09 PM
She says that Cindy is "milking" her leave of absence. Huh.
Boy, I'll bet Cindy and George are sure proud of their loving daughter...

And that's probably the only true thing she has said. Anyone can see that CA should have had her 'disability' pay stopped a long time ago.   

And GA has not been honest about his work? Shock! *Not*

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image270.png)

First: how would KC know that George was not working, yet disappearing day and night....wasn't she in jail and no contact with her parents?

Second: sounds just like what KC was actually doing all the time she said she had a job.



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Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 05:26:10 PM
page 44

I am extremely grateful to Mike & Michelle for taking your case.  Gabe speaks nothing but the truth.  He's my adopted brother.  Mike & Michelle wrote a couple appeals in my case that were nothing short of phenomenal.  I put all of my faith and trust in their abilities and I know they will pull a great victory for you
What?  Has she adopted the world?  Gag me  ::MonkeyNoNo::
sorry to quote myself here but just what APPEALS is she talking about?  There are no appeals in her case?  Is there or have simply lost my mind trying to makes sense of complete nonsense?  ::MonkeyConfused::


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Post by: Ono on April 06, 2010, 05:26:16 PM
She misses hugs kisses etc.....sigh but soon enough. 

WTH is she for real?  First off she isn't getting out and second who the he!! does she think would even entertain the thought of touching her???  OMG she is more twisted than a colored TV.
She is delusional if you ask me. And what is all the talk about religion?

Well, you know they say so many incarcerated find God in prison.

But if you ask me, she has carried this religious thing WAY too far.

Talk about delusional!

 ::MonkeyEek::
Way too far  ::MonkeyEek::

She's so ignorant but she's crazy like a fox, IMO.


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Post by: klaasend on April 06, 2010, 05:26:32 PM
Just catching up now.  OMG, they entire family especially Casey are sick/nut cases.  Caylee didn't stand a chance poor baby.


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Post by: Northern Rose on April 06, 2010, 05:27:07 PM
page 51
...but what it boils down to is my Mom is going to be escorted to court Friday by a friend of hers directly connected to the Today Show.


That would be bald Jim I think?


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Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 05:28:46 PM
So BOZO was sneaking letters out for her to the A's...and he was going to try to smuggle word search books?  So what else as he smuggling in????


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Post by: Ono on April 06, 2010, 05:29:50 PM
O
M
G
I haven't finished reading yet, but I don't know what to say except she's insane and living in her own fantasy world.
She's thrown every family member under the bus, and so far, Lee's gotten the worst of it. I don't know what to think.
She could really be insane.

She's not insane, she is evil.   Absolutely calculated & manipulative

My opinion is the same;   She's also very vain & conceited.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 06, 2010, 05:30:15 PM
page 44

I am extremely grateful to Mike & Michelle for taking your case.  Gabe speaks nothing but the truth.  He's my adopted brother.  Mike & Michelle wrote a couple appeals in my case that were nothing short of phenomenal.  I put all of my faith and trust in their abilities and I know they will pull a great victory for you
What?  Has she adopted the world?  Gag me  ::MonkeyNoNo::
sorry to quote myself here but just what APPEALS is she talking about?  There are no appeals in her case?  Is there or have simply lost my mind trying to makes sense of complete nonsense?  ::MonkeyConfused::

There has been nothing to appeal as the case has not started as far as I know.  I also find it interesting that Mike , Michelle and Gabe are helping her pen pal.  Are they from Bobo's office or Lyon's students?


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Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 05:31:01 PM
Her idea of shopping is Target & Publix, dont take offense to this anyone because I shop there always but if I were a narcissistic sociopath delusional with the thought she would be getting away with murder, you'd think one would be dreaming of something a bit more upscale than your average day-to-day establishments.   This may seem picky but goodness she is both classless & stunted in every aspect of life.

LOL---I'd be dreaming of Tiffany's.

Tiffany's, Versace, Ferrigamo......the list too long but yea YOU KNOW IT!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 06, 2010, 05:31:20 PM
So BOZO was sneaking letters out for her to the A's...and he was going to try to smuggle word search books?  So what else as he smuggling in????

I am wondering the same.  What is she going to "download" the movie on?  A laptop perhaps as she is in the attorney meetings?


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Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 05:32:34 PM
She misses hugs kisses etc.....sigh but soon enough. 

WTH is she for real?  First off she isn't getting out and second who the he!! does she think would even entertain the thought of touching her???  OMG she is more twisted than a colored TV.
She is delusional if you ask me. And what is all the talk about religion?

Well, you know they say so many incarcerated find God in prison.

But if you ask me, she has carried this religious thing WAY too far.

Talk about delusional!

 ::MonkeyEek::
Way too far  ::MonkeyEek::

She's so ignorant but she's crazy like a fox, IMO.

Exactly.


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Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 05:33:32 PM
Just catching up now.  OMG, they entire family especially Casey are sick/nut cases.  Caylee didn't stand a chance poor baby.

Klaas I thought all this time that I had not one shred of like or consideration for Casey. But by reading her words and I have yet to get past page 5. I simply loathe her. Not only do I loathe her for what she has taken " Caylee" her life.. but for her viewpoints she offers out as a single mom.  And for claiming she is a Mom.   


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Post by: Northern Rose on April 06, 2010, 05:33:35 PM
What attorney of hers was "down from New York" for the weekend?

This is on page 52 where she is slamming her Mom for the no show in court and that her attorneys are furious with Cindy for not showing up.  I need to take a eye break and to inject some alcohol before I read more.  She is fully delusional and a pathological liar IMO.    ::monkeywine2::    ::monkeywine2::


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Post by: N2WISHN on April 06, 2010, 05:35:05 PM
She says that Cindy is "milking" her leave of absence. Huh.
Boy, I'll bet Cindy and George are sure proud of their loving daughter...

And that's probably the only true thing she has said. Anyone can see that CA should have had her 'disability' pay stopped a long time ago.   

And GA has not been honest about his work? Shock! *Not*

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image270.png)

First: how would KC know that George was not working, yet disappearing day and night....wasn't she in jail and no contact with her parents?

Second: sounds just like what KC was actually doing all the time she said she had a job.





There's been a lot more going on behind the scenes. This might answer questions about how KC could know things about GA.


Cecelia Benhaida was incarcerated at the Orange County Jail from August 21st through December 5th, 2008. During this time she helped pass notes to and from Casey Anthony. She has had conversations with Krystal Holloway, her sister, regarding things George Anthony said concerning this case.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069761/detail.html


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Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 05:36:29 PM
page 51
...but what it boils down to is my Mom is going to be escorted to court Friday by a friend of hers directly connected to the Today Show.


That would be bald Jim I think?

BINGO!


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Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 05:36:30 PM
Just catching up now.  OMG, they entire family especially Casey are sick/nut cases.  Caylee didn't stand a chance poor baby.

As sad as it makes me that Caylee is no longer with us,I am thankful she is free from the likes of these monsters.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Post by: monkalicious on April 06, 2010, 05:37:08 PM
Report on Robin Adams  http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069951/detail.html
Supplemental  Report    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069761/detail.html
Thanks, Trimm. I took a break from the Casey-Casey-Casey anthology and gave these a quick glance.  Cecelia Benhaida (River Cruz/Krystal Holloway's sister,) was incarcerated at the same time as Casey and helped pass notes between Robyn and Casey.  What?  Did we know this?  This never stops surprising me.
(Now we need Martini Monkey!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 05:37:35 PM
So BOZO was sneaking letters out for her to the A's...and he was going to try to smuggle word search books?  So what else as he smuggling in????

Twizzlers apparently, the rest maybe I dont want to know  ::MonkeyNoNo::   "her boy" has turned into "honey do"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 05:39:03 PM
What attorney of hers was "down from New York" for the weekend?

This is on page 52 where she is slamming her Mom for the no show in court and that her attorneys are furious with Cindy for not showing up.  I need to take a eye break and to inject some alcohol before I read more.  She is fully delusional and a pathological liar IMO.    ::monkeywine2::    ::monkeywine2::

LKB possibly


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 05:40:11 PM
She misses hugs kisses etc.....sigh but soon enough. 

WTH is she for real?  First off she isn't getting out and second who the he!! does she think would even entertain the thought of touching her???  OMG she is more twisted than a colored TV.
She is delusional if you ask me. And what is all the talk about religion?

Well, you know they say so many incarcerated find God in prison.

But if you ask me, she has carried this religious thing WAY too far.

Talk about delusional!

 ::MonkeyEek::
Way too far  ::MonkeyEek::

And her "God" AKA "Papa" speaks to her through her sneezes!

(He confirms her thoughts by making her sneeze as she writes them.)

 ::MonkeyRoll::
That's insane  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 05:40:20 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/casey-anthony-casey-anthony-talked-about-caylee-in-jail-letters.html
Casey Anthony: Casey Anthony talked about Caylee in jail letters; she confided there is no Zenaida Gonzalez
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Central Florida News 13, George and Cindy Anthony, WESH, WFTV — posted by halboedeker on April, 6 2010 4:27 PM
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How often did Casey Anthony discuss her daughter Caylee in jail letters released this afternoon? Stations had different takes on that question.

“The one thing that really jumped out at us among the first letters that we read of Casey’s is how much she does actually talk about her daughter, Caylee,” WESH-Channel 2’s Bob Kealing  reported on the 4 p.m. news.

Later, Kealing reported that Anthony confided there was no Zenaida Gonzalez, the nanny who supposedly took care of Caylee. And Anthony wrote that she used chloroform to help Caylee sleep when the toddler had trouble nodding off, WESH reported.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter.

WFTV-Channel 9 opened its 5 p.m. news with the headlines: “No ‘Zanny the Nanny’!” and “Used chloroform on Caylee”!

WFTV’s Kathi Belich said the letters could damage Anthony’s defense. “She tells so many different stories about what happened to Caylee, talks about chloroform and also says her alleged babysitter Zenaida had nothing to do with Caylee’s murder,” Belich said. “All in all, she communicated less about Caylee and much more about her plans for her new life once she gets out of jail.”

Belich said Anthony “rambles” and “contradicts her from sentence to sentence.” To one inmate, Anthony told three versions of what happened to Caylee, Belich noted.

Kealing highlighted these passages:

***”I’ve had to forgive what happened to my Caylee, but I’m still angry,” Anthony writes.
***”I was a great mom,” she wrote.

***”I loved my daughter with everything I have,” she wrote.

*** In one of the stranger passages, she talks about wanting to adopt a child from Ireland.

***Casey used the nickname “Cays” for her daughter and said talks to the child  through the day.

Anthony accused her father and brother of sexually abusing her. “But were they just dreams?” Kealing asked. “Both George and Lee Anthony have denied ever sexually assaulting Casey.”

WFTV highlighted that Casey said her mother, Cindy, called her a whore and accused her of lying.

Also this afternoon, Central Florida News highlighted Anthony’s allegations against her brother. “Casey Anthony says she was abused by her brother since she was a young child,” Jacqueline Fell reported. “She alleges that her brother started to do to this to her just before she turned 12 years old.”

In another passage, she said thinks her father sexually abused her when she was younger. 

But given that Anthony has frequently failed to tell the truth, can her comments in these letters be taken seriously?

Anthony wrote the letters to a fellow inmate at the Orange County Jail.

Other documents released today provided insight into Krystal Holloway — who’s also known as River Cruz. Holloway said she befriended George Anthony and spent hours with her, but the relationship never turned sexual, WFTV’s Jeff Deal reported. Holloway says that George confided that Caylee’s death was an accident that snowballed out of control.

“But George never told her what the accident was,” Deal said. “He even relayed a story where he yelled at Casey, saying, ‘I know you killed her. What did you do with her?’ Then he choked Casey and Cindy had to pull him off.”

A security guard at Holloway’s gated community supported her story that George regularly visited, Deal added
WFTV also reported that prosecutors have requested a transcript from a hearing last year. At the hearing, defense attorney Todd Macaluso said there was substantial evidence that Caylee’s body was dumped in the woods after the young mother was jailed and “that proves her innocence.” Macaluso is no longer with the defense team.


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Post by: Tevye on April 06, 2010, 05:40:23 PM
Report on Robin Adams  http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069951/detail.html
Supplemental  Report    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069761/detail.html
Thanks, Trimm. I took a break from the Casey-Casey-Casey anthology and gave these a quick glance.  Cecelia Benhaida (River Cruz/Krystal Holloway's sister,) was incarcerated at the same time as Casey and helped pass notes between Robyn and Casey.  What?  Did we know this?  This never stops surprising me.
(Now we need Martini Monkey!)
I highly recommend reading the sheriff's reports...all kinds of good stuff in there. Pg 10 (of the first one, I think) tells about River being in jail with Casey and passing notes...and then there's the interviews of the verbal convos between Casey and her note-mate. I'd rather read the investigation than Crzy's ramblings (but I know after tomorrow I probably will!) More  ::monkeywine2::


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 05:43:15 PM
What attorney of hers was "down from New York" for the weekend?

This is on page 52 where she is slamming her Mom for the no show in court and that her attorneys are furious with Cindy for not showing up.  I need to take a eye break and to inject some alcohol before I read more.  She is fully delusional and a pathological liar IMO.    ::monkeywine2::    ::monkeywine2::
I would guess Linda Kenney Baden


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 05:44:25 PM
page 44

I am extremely grateful to Mike & Michelle for taking your case.  Gabe speaks nothing but the truth.  He's my adopted brother.  Mike & Michelle wrote a couple appeals in my case that were nothing short of phenomenal.  I put all of my faith and trust in their abilities and I know they will pull a great victory for you
What?  Has she adopted the world?  Gag me  ::MonkeyNoNo::
sorry to quote myself here but just what APPEALS is she talking about?  There are no appeals in her case?  Is there or have simply lost my mind trying to makes sense of complete nonsense?  ::MonkeyConfused::

There has been nothing to appeal as the case has not started as far as I know.  I also find it interesting that Mike , Michelle and Gabe are helping her pen pal.  Are they from Bobo's office or Lyon's students?
Thank you Northern Rose - she sure lives in a fantasy world and is continuing to lie lie lie.  That is a good question however.....where are these people from?


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 05:44:38 PM
She says that Cindy is "milking" her leave of absence. Huh.
Boy, I'll bet Cindy and George are sure proud of their loving daughter...

And that's probably the only true thing she has said. Anyone can see that CA should have had her 'disability' pay stopped a long time ago.   

And GA has not been honest about his work? Shock! *Not*

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image270.png)

First: how would KC know that George was not working, yet disappearing day and night....wasn't she in jail and no contact with her parents?

Second: sounds just like what KC was actually doing all the time she said she had a job.





There's been a lot more going on behind the scenes. This might answer questions about how KC could know things about GA.


Cecelia Benhaida was incarcerated at the Orange County Jail from August 21st through December 5th, 2008. During this time she helped pass notes to and from Casey Anthony. She has had conversations with Krystal Holloway, her sister, regarding things George Anthony said concerning this case.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069761/detail.html
Now that is the most interesting info so far for me.


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Post by: crazybabyborg on April 06, 2010, 05:45:12 PM
Sassy....    ::MonkeyHaHa::
Maybe I should turn the computer sideways, maybe that will work  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   I'm standing on my head.

It works for me to reduce the size of the page, grab my chair for balance, and turn my head~

Think cruise ship in a storm and grab a sea-sick bag!   ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 05:46:22 PM
Just catching up now.  OMG, they entire family especially Casey are sick/nut cases.  Caylee didn't stand a chance poor baby.
No she didn't Klaas, I am afraid she is in a better place.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 06, 2010, 05:47:03 PM
She says that Cindy is "milking" her leave of absence. Huh.
Boy, I'll bet Cindy and George are sure proud of their loving daughter...

And that's probably the only true thing she has said. Anyone can see that CA should have had her 'disability' pay stopped a long time ago.   

And GA has not been honest about his work? Shock! *Not*

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image270.png)

First: how would KC know that George was not working, yet disappearing day and night....wasn't she in jail and no contact with her parents?

Second: sounds just like what KC was actually doing all the time she said she had a job.





There's been a lot more going on behind the scenes. This might answer questions about how KC could know things about GA.


Cecelia Benhaida was incarcerated at the Orange County Jail from August 21st through December 5th, 2008. During this time she helped pass notes to and from Casey Anthony. She has had conversations with Krystal Holloway, her sister, regarding things George Anthony said concerning this case.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069761/detail.html
Thanks for the link, N2WISHN!  I just found this out in the supplemental report.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 05:48:08 PM
Other documents released today provided insight into Krystal Holloway — who’s also known as River Cruz. Holloway said she befriended George Anthony and spent hours with her, but the relationship never turned sexual, WFTV’s Jeff Deal reported. Holloway says that George confided that Caylee’s death was an accident that snowballed out of control.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Oh please, now there was no sex, what a bunch of bs. He just kept going to her house to watch movies and eat popcorn  ::MonkeyShovel::


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Post by: klaasend on April 06, 2010, 05:48:43 PM
I'm sure this was already posted a few pages back, but I'm going to post again:

http://www.wftv.com/news/23067010/detail.html

Casey Letters: Chloroform Used To Put Caylee To Sleep

Posted: 12:07 pm EDT April 6,2010Updated: 5:10 pm EDT April 6,2010

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Nearly 800 pages of new documents and letters were released Tuesday that Casey Anthony wrote to another jail inmate (read them). Investigators told WFTV they contain damaging evidence against her, but Casey's defense team told WFTV they are not afraid of what's in them.

This is the most revealing look into Casey Anthony's life behind bars that the public has seen since she was first arrested nearly two years ago.

In the letters, Casey told inmate Robyn Adams that Caylee had trouble sleeping and she had to use chloroform to put her to sleep. Also, Casey Anthony implied to Robyn Adams that her mother, Cindy Anthony, brought chloroform home from the clinic where she worked.

All in all, she communicated less about Caylee and much more about her plans for her new life, once she gets out of jail.

Casey Anthony rambles in her letters and contradicts herself from sentence to sentence at times.

She also wrote to inmate Robyn Adams "I know that Caylee's nanny, the real Zenaida, the girl who was my friend for four years I know in my heart that she's not responsible. And I don't blame her for not showing her face."

Casey also said she "was going to take Caylee and move away. Unfortunately, my plans got beyond tangled when Zanny wouldn't tell me where she and Cays were."

Casey claimed in one of her letters that she had given Caylee to the nanny, while she prepared for the two of them to start a new life and wrote "that's why I waited to report her missing. Because she was and wasn't."

However, Casey confided to Adams that there was no “Zenaida.” Adams believes that may have been written in one of the letters she sent to her friend, Tracey Nealley. Although Casey Anthony and Robyn Adams agreed to flush the letters after reading them, Adams kept them and mailed them to Tracey Nealley.

Casey also accused her brother Lee Anthony of sexually abusing her for three years starting when she was 12 years old. She wrote to Adams that he stopped after she threatened to kill him if he came back into her room. Casey also claimed that she was molested by George when she was younger, but did not elaborate further. She says her mother accused her of lying and called her a whore.

In an interview with Orange County detective Yuri Melich, an inmate named Maya Derkovic, who was in prison at the same time as Casey Anthony, told him the two established a friendship and repeatedly spoke through the ventilation system. During the conversations, Derkovic asked Casey about the circumstances of Caylee’s disappearance. Derkovic said Casey told her three different versions of what happened to Caylee.

The first version, detective Melich states, was the same one Casey told him. The second version was that the babysitter was asked to come to Casey’s house to watch Caylee while Casey went out. When Casey returned, both the babysitter and Caylee were gone. Another version was about the same, except when Casey returned to the empty home she found a note claiming Caylee had been abducted.

Derkovic told Melich during the interview that, when Casey would return to her cell from visits with her family, she would make derogatory remarks about her mother Cindy.

“Her parents would come and that’s when she would make comments about her mom. And I asked her, ’Well how was your visit and how did it go?’ And she’ll make comments like, ’Well it’s alright; at least the b**** knows how I feel now,'" Derkovic told Melich. “She’ll talk about, well, how her mom never really cared about her that much. All she cared about was Caylee and she knows what it fells like to miss somebody and to feel pain and stuff like that.

Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, told WFTV Casey's team is not concerned about the content of the letters and not releasing them would have been worse, because that would have left questions about their content.

“If you look at them within the context, they're of a person locked up 23 hours a day,” attorney Jose Baez said after a hearing in the case Monday, before the letters had been released.

Casey has been in the Orange County jail since July 2008. She's in protective custody and is not supposed to have direct communication with other inmates. A guard, Silvia Hernandez, is now on paid leave from the Orange County jail in connection with the exchange of letters.

(snipped but more at the link above)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on April 06, 2010, 05:48:58 PM
She says that Cindy is "milking" her leave of absence. Huh.
Boy, I'll bet Cindy and George are sure proud of their loving daughter...

And that's probably the only true thing she has said. Anyone can see that CA should have had her 'disability' pay stopped a long time ago.   

And GA has not been honest about his work? Shock! *Not*

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image270.png)

First: how would KC know that George was not working, yet disappearing day and night....wasn't she in jail and no contact with her parents?

Second: sounds just like what KC was actually doing all the time she said she had a job.





There's been a lot more going on behind the scenes. This might answer questions about how KC could know things about GA.


Cecelia Benhaida was incarcerated at the Orange County Jail from August 21st through December 5th, 2008. During this time she helped pass notes to and from Casey Anthony. She has had conversations with Krystal Holloway, her sister, regarding things George Anthony said concerning this case.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069761/detail.html
Now that is the most interesting info so far for me.


I don't like what I'm reading and learning about those two sisters. Looks like the jailhouse letters are what sent LE knocking on the door........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 05:54:28 PM
http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

Snipped:

Profile of the Sociopath

*Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
*Grandiose Sense of Self Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
*Pathological Lying - Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
* Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt -A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
* Shallow Emotions -When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
*Incapacity for Love
*Need for Stimulation -Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
*Callousness/Lack of Empathy- Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
* Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature - Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
* Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
*Irresponsibility/Unreliability - Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
*Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity -Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
*Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle -Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
* Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility - Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/arrestedslore-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 05:54:55 PM
Page 449 of Wesh link 1

"I read my mom's letter, but now Im not doing so well.   My mom isnt sure if she and my dad are going to stay together, after hearing/watching his interview with the FBI.    Fudge(clean version)!!!"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 05:55:58 PM
She says that Cindy is "milking" her leave of absence. Huh.
Boy, I'll bet Cindy and George are sure proud of their loving daughter...

And that's probably the only true thing she has said. Anyone can see that CA should have had her 'disability' pay stopped a long time ago.   

And GA has not been honest about his work? Shock! *Not*

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image270.png)

First: how would KC know that George was not working, yet disappearing day and night....wasn't she in jail and no contact with her parents?

Second: sounds just like what KC was actually doing all the time she said she had a job.





There's been a lot more going on behind the scenes. This might answer questions about how KC could know things about GA.


Cecelia Benhaida was incarcerated at the Orange County Jail from August 21st through December 5th, 2008. During this time she helped pass notes to and from Casey Anthony. She has had conversations with Krystal Holloway, her sister, regarding things George Anthony said concerning this case.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069761/detail.html
Now that is the most interesting info so far for me.


I don't like what I'm reading and learning about those two sisters. Looks like the jailhouse letters are what sent LE knocking on the door........

O boy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 06, 2010, 05:59:08 PM
She misses hugs kisses etc.....sigh but soon enough. 

WTH is she for real?  First off she isn't getting out and second who the he!! does she think would even entertain the thought of touching her???  OMG she is more twisted than a colored TV.
She is delusional if you ask me. And what is all the talk about religion?

Well, you know they say so many incarcerated find God in prison.

But if you ask me, she has carried this religious thing WAY too far.

Talk about delusional!

 ::MonkeyEek::

I think she is using that to "hook" that other girl. The other woman seems to be pretty sincere about her beliefs and KC is mimicking her to hook her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 06, 2010, 06:00:49 PM
Apparently Robyn saw her "honest letters" to Casey as her ticket out of jail.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image278.png)


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image276.png)

Poor Casey, used again.

 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 06:00:54 PM
HLN primenews going to cover the letters


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 06, 2010, 06:01:43 PM
Okay, we need a vomiting monkey, STAT.  Casey refers to God as Daddy, (I can just hear her saying it in a little girl voice, gag me.)  Off on a tangent, this reminds me of the old horror classic, "Whatever happened to Baby Jane?"  Bette Davis as a grotesque former child star mincing and prancing around singing "I'm writing a letter to Daddy".  I think the defense is wrong, these letters are incredibly damaging.  Even her references to Caylee appear forced and unnatural.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 06, 2010, 06:03:59 PM
Okay, we need a vomiting monkey, STAT.  Casey refers to God as Daddy, (I can just hear her saying it in a little girl voice, gag me.)  Off on a tangent, this reminds me of the old horror classic, "Whatever happened to Baby Jane?"  Bette Davis as a grotesque former child star mincing and prancing around singing "I'm writing a letter to Daddy".  I think the defense is wrong, these letters are incredibly damaging.  Even her references to Caylee appear forced and unnatural.

Great analogy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 06:07:08 PM
Tevye,the supplement is interesting.   ::MonkeyTongue::
Page 4  http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069951/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 06:08:37 PM
Okay, we need a vomiting monkey, STAT.  Casey refers to God as Daddy, (I can just hear her saying it in a little girl voice, gag me.)  Off on a tangent, this reminds me of the old horror classic, "Whatever happened to Baby Jane?"  Bette Davis as a grotesque former child star mincing and prancing around singing "I'm writing a letter to Daddy".  I think the defense is wrong, these letters are incredibly damaging.  Even her references to Caylee appear forced and unnatural.

Great analogy.

Some of it is clearly her way of formulating a defense for herself, other aspects are to make her a victim of many & a few rare glimpses of her trying to explain why she chloroformed her daughter but what mother that didnt have ill intent would use that toxic substance even as a knock out drug...I say NONE


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 06:14:50 PM
Okay, we need a vomiting monkey, STAT.  Casey refers to God as Daddy, (I can just hear her saying it in a little girl voice, gag me.)  Off on a tangent, this reminds me of the old horror classic, "Whatever happened to Baby Jane?"  Bette Davis as a grotesque former child star mincing and prancing around singing "I'm writing a letter to Daddy".  I think the defense is wrong, these letters are incredibly damaging.  Even her references to Caylee appear forced and unnatural.
Monk I have yet to get past page 5 in her letters.  I can't not yet. I have to take it in slowly. This is way too much for my monkey brain to handle. I have been so deep into this case ( Not that anyone else here doesn't feel the same way) I think a vomit monkey would be so appropriate. This is so not what I expected. Not that I knew what was to be expected. Her words written " are difficult enough to read- her handwriting style" and then to grab on to her words - there is so much information in short spans. I can't gloss over them. I am actually nauseous reading her words.  She writes as if she was sent away and is at Camp.  That she is getting ready to be sent home and all is well. Its so disturbing. The perception I find in her writing is so disturbing and OUT there .. not that she is insane. Not. She writes in 1st, 2nd and 3rd person. Within all of it she not once recognizes WHO she is and or Why she is where she is in Jail. So yes I agree a Vomit Monkey would be so appropriate.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 06, 2010, 06:17:59 PM
Okay, we need a vomiting monkey, STAT.  Casey refers to God as Daddy, (I can just hear her saying it in a little girl voice, gag me.)  Off on a tangent, this reminds me of the old horror classic, "Whatever happened to Baby Jane?"  Bette Davis as a grotesque former child star mincing and prancing around singing "I'm writing a letter to Daddy".  I think the defense is wrong, these letters are incredibly damaging.  Even her references to Caylee appear forced and unnatural.

Great analogy.

Some of it is clearly her way of formulating a defense for herself, other aspects are to make her a victim of many & a few rare glimpses of her trying to explain why she chloroformed her daughter but what mother that didnt have ill intent would use that toxic substance even as a knock out drug...I say NONE
None, indeed.  You know, when my twins were babies and my husband and I both worked full time, and he was getting his MBA four nights a week, I could have used some time off.  It never occurred to me to drug them so I could party.  There is no way anyone rational could look at Casey as a victim--the only real victim is Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 06, 2010, 06:27:22 PM
Okay, we need a vomiting monkey, STAT.  Casey refers to God as Daddy, (I can just hear her saying it in a little girl voice, gag me.)  Off on a tangent, this reminds me of the old horror classic, "Whatever happened to Baby Jane?"  Bette Davis as a grotesque former child star mincing and prancing around singing "I'm writing a letter to Daddy".  I think the defense is wrong, these letters are incredibly damaging.  Even her references to Caylee appear forced and unnatural.
Monk I have yet to get past page 5 in her letters.  I can't not yet. I have to take it in slowly. This is way too much for my monkey brain to handle. I have been so deep into this case ( Not that anyone else here doesn't feel the same way) I think a vomit monkey would be so appropriate. This is so not what I expected. Not that I knew what was to be expected. Her words written " are difficult enough to read- her handwriting style" and then to grab on to her words - there is so much information in short spans. I can't gloss over them. I am actually nauseous reading her words.  She writes as if she was sent away and is at Camp.  That she is getting ready to be sent home and all is well. Its so disturbing. The perception I find in her writing is so disturbing and OUT there .. not that she is insane. Not. She writes in 1st, 2nd and 3rd person. Within all of it she not once recognizes WHO she is and or Why she is where she is in Jail. So yes I agree a Vomit Monkey would be so appropriate.
Deenie, I'm there with you.  It's not what I expected, in fact it's worse.  She writes as if she expects to be published.  What I find hilariously disturbing is that I think she believes she is an Anais Nin, or Julia Child, or a Mary Karr.  Her use and misuse of words is just dreadful. You are correct, she does write as if she is away at summer camp, dishing the dirt on the senior counselors and fantacizing about the dreamy new intern.  (Insert Vomit Monkey here.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 06:28:19 PM
Okay, we need a vomiting monkey, STAT.  Casey refers to God as Daddy, (I can just hear her saying it in a little girl voice, gag me.)  Off on a tangent, this reminds me of the old horror classic, "Whatever happened to Baby Jane?"  Bette Davis as a grotesque former child star mincing and prancing around singing "I'm writing a letter to Daddy".  I think the defense is wrong, these letters are incredibly damaging.  Even her references to Caylee appear forced and unnatural.
::MonkeyEek:: wow, but loved that movie.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 06, 2010, 06:30:52 PM
Hmmm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 06, 2010, 06:34:45 PM
http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

Snipped:

Profile of the Sociopath

*Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
*Grandiose Sense of Self Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
*Pathological Lying - Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
* Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt -A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
* Shallow Emotions -When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
*Incapacity for Love
*Need for Stimulation -Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
*Callousness/Lack of Empathy- Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
* Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature - Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
* Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
*Irresponsibility/Unreliability - Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
*Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity -Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
*Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle -Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
* Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility - Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/arrestedslore-1.jpg)

BINGO!  It isn't insanity  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 06, 2010, 06:35:16 PM
Hmmm

Diddly...............I tried to put a snapshot of that report in that post and it did not work.  What I was trying to post was the part where Robyn told about GA and Lee having sex with her and that she knocked out Caylee to go out. Also that there was no Zanida.  

I can't figure out how Baez thought this would not be detrimental to his client. All her lies are exposed. but I am now even more convinced that GA is going under that bus wheel along with Lee and CA.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 06:37:10 PM
Hmmm

Diddly...............I tried to put a snapshot of that report in that post and it did not work.  What I was trying to post was the part where Robyn told about GA and Lee having sex with her and that she knocked out Caylee to go out. Also that there was no Zanida.  

I can't figure out how Baez thought this would not be detrimental to his client. All her lies are exposed. but I am now even more convinced that GA is going under that bus wheel along with Lee and CA.
Oh yes, under the bus they will go big time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 06, 2010, 06:38:09 PM
She says that Cindy is "milking" her leave of absence. Huh.
Boy, I'll bet Cindy and George are sure proud of their loving daughter...

And that's probably the only true thing she has said. Anyone can see that CA should have had her 'disability' pay stopped a long time ago.   

And GA has not been honest about his work? Shock! *Not*

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image270.png)

First: how would KC know that George was not working, yet disappearing day and night....wasn't she in jail and no contact with her parents?

Second: sounds just like what KC was actually doing all the time she said she had a job.





There's been a lot more going on behind the scenes. This might answer questions about how KC could know things about GA.


Cecelia Benhaida was incarcerated at the Orange County Jail from August 21st through December 5th, 2008. During this time she helped pass notes to and from Casey Anthony. She has had conversations with Krystal Holloway, her sister, regarding things George Anthony said concerning this case.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069761/detail.html

Well...wouldn't "November" be the timeframe for the "affair with River"?  Would that be where George was disappearing to day and night?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 06:38:23 PM
Home for some of this before I can read any more  ::monkeywine2:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 06:38:31 PM
Okay, we need a vomiting monkey, STAT.  Casey refers to God as Daddy, (I can just hear her saying it in a little girl voice, gag me.)  Off on a tangent, this reminds me of the old horror classic, "Whatever happened to Baby Jane?"  Bette Davis as a grotesque former child star mincing and prancing around singing "I'm writing a letter to Daddy".  I think the defense is wrong, these letters are incredibly damaging.  Even her references to Caylee appear forced and unnatural.

Great analogy.

Some of it is clearly her way of formulating a defense for herself, other aspects are to make her a victim of many & a few rare glimpses of her trying to explain why she chloroformed her daughter but what mother that didnt have ill intent would use that toxic substance even as a knock out drug...I say NONE
None, indeed.  You know, when my twins were babies and my husband and I both worked full time, and he was getting his MBA four nights a week, I could have used some time off.  It never occurred to me to drug them so I could party.  There is no way anyone rational could look at Casey as a victim--the only real victim is Caylee.
See you and your Hubby represent what is " Hard and yet necessary"  to create a future for yourselves as a family as individuals- You sacrificed time away from your babies in order for them to have a future. That is commendable and I pray within this economy your works/education does pay off for you and your Husband. This is what I cannot understand with Casey. No HS Diploma. No future in sight yet she feels she is Queen and deserves everything handed to her.  CA/GA said Casey had a great job and got dressed and left for work every day and took Caylee with her - to drop her at the sitter" Lies all lies. No proof she had a job. Never a pay stub. Yet she was stealing her family blind including her elderly grandparents.  I do not know how anyone could live a life that way - being a totally lying pos everyday for years - and representing themselves as the opposite. That I "Casey" am victim.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 06, 2010, 06:45:05 PM
"WFTV highlighted that Casey said her mother, Cindy, called her a whore and accused her of lying."


Oh...so...Cindy can tell the truth when she wants to!

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 06, 2010, 06:49:16 PM
"Other documents released today provided insight into Krystal Holloway — who’s also known as River Cruz. Holloway said she befriended George Anthony and spent hours with her, but the relationship never turned sexual, WFTV’s Jeff Deal reported."

The relationship never turned sexual....I thought George and River had an affair....what am I missing?

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on April 06, 2010, 06:50:30 PM
My favorite part is Yuri Melich's report from the jail.  On page 8 into 9-  when Caylee was found a Chaplain was asked to warn Casey.  After visiting with him she told other inmates that a small child in a blanket inside a bag had been found....    the Chaplain had not been given that information- the only people who knew that were investigators..  and of course the murderer.
Casey's big oops moment!
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069761/detail.html   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 06, 2010, 06:50:47 PM

None, indeed.  You know, when my twins were babies and my husband and I both worked full time, and he was getting his MBA four nights a week, I could have used some time off.  It never occurred to me to drug them so I could party.  There is no way anyone rational could look at Casey as a victim--the only real victim is Caylee.

I agree. I finished college younger than KC with two small kids and a full time job and it never once occurred to me to knock out my kids to party. I never had time to party, but a little sleep would have been nice. I can remember just sitting on the bed reading my oldest one a bedtime story and falling asleep myself and her waking me up to finish the story. LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 06, 2010, 06:51:57 PM
My favorite part is Yuri Melich's report from the jail.  On page 8 into 9-  when Caylee was found a Chaplain was asked to warn Casey.  After visiting with him she told other inmates that a small child in a blanket inside a bag had been found....    the Chaplain had not been given that information- the only people who knew that were investigators..  and of course the murderer.
Casey's big oops moment!
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069761/detail.html   

WOW..........I did not catch that................awesome catch.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on April 06, 2010, 06:52:37 PM
Well Georgie, the gig is up.  The gate guard at River Cruz' house recorded GA was a frequent visitor to her house!     How you gonna explain that one Cindy?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 06:54:48 PM
My favorite part is Yuri Melich's report from the jail.  On page 8 into 9-  when Caylee was found a Chaplain was asked to warn Casey.  After visiting with him she told other inmates that a small child in a blanket inside a bag had been found....    the Chaplain had not been given that information- the only people who knew that were investigators..  and of course the murderer.
Casey's big oops moment!
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069761/detail.html   
Yes, and I bet Baez and company never read these letters, because some of this is damning and some of this is rattling nonsense. She went off script.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 06, 2010, 06:56:01 PM
Well Georgie, the gig is up.  The gate guard at River Cruz' house recorded GA was a frequent visitor to her house!     How you gonna explain that one Cindy?

Cindy......."they are framing George"

There is a LOT of "planing" that miss Cindy is going to have to do after these letters - like HOW she acquired chloroform for KC to use on Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 06:56:23 PM
"Other documents released today provided insight into Krystal Holloway — who’s also known as River Cruz. Holloway said she befriended George Anthony and spent hours with her, but the relationship never turned sexual, WFTV’s Jeff Deal reported."

The relationship never turned sexual....I thought George and River had an affair....what am I missing?

 
It appears that this is a lie, I don't believe for a second that George was going over there because he enjoyed her company and the two of them enjoyed talking about the weather  ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 06, 2010, 06:56:32 PM
thanks for the ideas on how to get these letters on my computer...not working...I have a good adblock and my anti virus won't allow certain things on here...oh well,,,I will try a few other things...enjoying reading your comments though!
how could Bozo think that this would not have been harmful to Casey Ho??? he is such an idiot!
Cookie if you have a throw away email I will email the docs for you.

thank you! I do...bless you..bless you!!!
Angelina485@yahoo.com


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on April 06, 2010, 07:01:00 PM
"Other documents released today provided insight into Krystal Holloway — who’s also known as River Cruz. Holloway said she befriended George Anthony and spent hours with her, but the relationship never turned sexual, WFTV’s Jeff Deal reported."

The relationship never turned sexual....I thought George and River had an affair....what am I missing?

 



You're missing the intimate pics we waited for that never appeared. There's more to these sisters than we've been led to believe. My eyes are so tired I will have to look deeper into their motivations another day. If I'm lucky someone else will figure everything out and post here...........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 06, 2010, 07:02:00 PM
"WFTV highlighted that Casey said her mother, Cindy, called her a whore and accused her of lying."


Oh...so...Cindy can tell the truth when she wants to!

 
::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 06, 2010, 07:02:08 PM
"WFTV highlighted that Casey said her mother, Cindy, called her a whore and accused her of lying."


Oh...so...Cindy can tell the truth when she wants to!

 

Away from cameras. Yeah.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on April 06, 2010, 07:02:51 PM
She misses hugs kisses etc.....sigh but soon enough. 

WTH is she for real?  First off she isn't getting out and second who the he!! does she think would even entertain the thought of touching her???  OMG she is more twisted than a colored TV.
She is delusional if you ask me. And what is all the talk about religion?

Well, you know they say so many incarcerated find God in prison.

But if you ask me, she has carried this religious thing WAY too far.

Talk about delusional!

 ::MonkeyEek::
Way too far  ::MonkeyEek::

She's so ignorant but she's crazy like a fox, IMO.

BBM

Yes she is crazy like a fox!  I remember that at one point Jesse said she was able to become a chameleon to suit the people and situation she was in//and he was absolutely correct! 

I have only got through the first hundred pages..but they show her wheedling her way into this girls world and good graces.  Casey says what benefits her and what others want to hear..and puts herself in a good light in their eyes.

Casey is delusional..she keeps talking about what she is going to do when she gets out...
Hey Casey..listen up Babe..you ain't getting out.  You haven't found religion..and if your parents ever speak to you again you should be so lucky.  As far as Lee goes..I don't believe a word of what Casey is saying..I just don't..she is cunning..and enjoying herself way too much for my liking.

I especially like the part where she is so mad at Cindy for not coming to court one Friday and the next day meeting with Meredith V in Tampa, for hiring Conway..Casey dislikes him..for making money off Caylee..and wait Casey is writing a book herself..so how can her Mom talk about doing that..she has not changed one iota..Casey is still the same user and liar and player she always was..and always will be.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 07:03:39 PM
Okay, we need a vomiting monkey, STAT.  Casey refers to God as Daddy, (I can just hear her saying it in a little girl voice, gag me.)  Off on a tangent, this reminds me of the old horror classic, "Whatever happened to Baby Jane?"  Bette Davis as a grotesque former child star mincing and prancing around singing "I'm writing a letter to Daddy".  I think the defense is wrong, these letters are incredibly damaging.  Even her references to Caylee appear forced and unnatural.
Monk I have yet to get past page 5 in her letters.  I can't not yet. I have to take it in slowly. This is way too much for my monkey brain to handle. I have been so deep into this case ( Not that anyone else here doesn't feel the same way) I think a vomit monkey would be so appropriate. This is so not what I expected. Not that I knew what was to be expected. Her words written " are difficult enough to read- her handwriting style" and then to grab on to her words - there is so much information in short spans. I can't gloss over them. I am actually nauseous reading her words.  She writes as if she was sent away and is at Camp.  That she is getting ready to be sent home and all is well. Its so disturbing. The perception I find in her writing is so disturbing and OUT there .. not that she is insane. Not. She writes in 1st, 2nd and 3rd person. Within all of it she not once recognizes WHO she is and or Why she is where she is in Jail. So yes I agree a Vomit Monkey would be so appropriate.
Deenie, I'm there with you.  It's not what I expected, in fact it's worse.  She writes as if she expects to be published.  What I find hilariously disturbing is that I think she believes she is an Anais Nin, or Julia Child, or a Mary Karr.  Her use and misuse of words is just dreadful. You are correct, she does write as if she is away at summer camp, dishing the dirt on the senior counselors and fantacizing about the dreamy new intern.  (Insert Vomit Monkey here.)
:smt038 :smt023 I feel the same way. I can't though press myself further for now and read her detailed events. I cannot even express how much her written words disturb me.
This wont make sense - But years ago when I worked in an office - I was in purchasing and in charge of money spent/allocated.  My direct supervisor wrote in my review that was sent to my Big boss - it was written by him in his review of me as an employee .. " Myname" she is so honest and credible and backs up every penny spent- For liberty and Justice for all. He said He had never met anyone to this day who is this concise in documentation, yet is not anal. He added the Liberty and Justice for all as a quirk in his sense of humor. Because I believe in what is right. I am not perfect but I was, I felt I had to be in person in business. I wear my heart on my sleeve. I do believe that what we do in our positions in life - individual, parent, job, home, is an action that does at one point effect everyone. Everything is a choice and each an every choice we make in life - does not stop at one. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 06, 2010, 07:05:47 PM

None, indeed.  You know, when my twins were babies and my husband and I both worked full time, and he was getting his MBA four nights a week, I could have used some time off.  It never occurred to me to drug them so I could party.  There is no way anyone rational could look at Casey as a victim--the only real victim is Caylee.

I agree. I finished college younger than KC with two small kids and a full time job and it never once occurred to me to knock out my kids to party. I never had time to party, but a little sleep would have been nice. I can remember just sitting on the bed reading my oldest one a bedtime story and falling asleep myself and her waking me up to finish the story. LOL
That is so sweet.  I remember those days well.  Casey obviously would never put anyone's well being ahead of her own.  One of the things that struck me was her near contentment in jail.  She doesn't have to deal with the real world, all choices are made for her, she is truly the center of the universe. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 06, 2010, 07:05:50 PM
My favorite part is Yuri Melich's report from the jail.  On page 8 into 9-  when Caylee was found a Chaplain was asked to warn Casey.  After visiting with him she told other inmates that a small child in a blanket inside a bag had been found....    the Chaplain had not been given that information- the only people who knew that were investigators..  and of course the murderer.
Casey's big oops moment!
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069761/detail.html   

WOW..........I did not catch that................awesome catch.

Still wading through the first 516 pages in part 1.

This is a WOW oopsie!

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 07:06:15 PM
I just saw this and did I laugh, someone on InSessions called these letters ( Bible thumping lesbian love letters.) ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 07:08:02 PM
I just saw this and did I laugh, someone on InSessions called these letters ( Bible thumping lesbian love letters.) ::MonkeyTongue::
I feel it almost the same - Her/Casey's words of use are ...... UM yep.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 06, 2010, 07:09:08 PM
"Other documents released today provided insight into Krystal Holloway — who’s also known as River Cruz. Holloway said she befriended George Anthony and spent hours with her, but the relationship never turned sexual, WFTV’s Jeff Deal reported."

The relationship never turned sexual....I thought George and River had an affair....what am I missing?

 

I heard on one of the talk shows that the only picture that there was, was the one with River and George sitting in that restaurant (?) together, which I believe was a fund raiser...there were no other pictures it was said..no intimate pictures...


You're missing the intimate pics we waited for that never appeared. There's more to these sisters than we've been led to believe. My eyes are so tired I will have to look deeper into their motivations another day. If I'm lucky someone else will figure everything out and post here...........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 06, 2010, 07:10:18 PM
"Other documents released today provided insight into Krystal Holloway — who’s also known as River Cruz. Holloway said she befriended George Anthony and spent hours with her, but the relationship never turned sexual, WFTV’s Jeff Deal reported."

The relationship never turned sexual....I thought George and River had an affair....what am I missing?

 



You're missing the intimate pics we waited for that never appeared. There's more to these sisters than we've been led to believe. My eyes are so tired I will have to look deeper into their motivations another day. If I'm lucky someone else will figure everything out and post here...........


sorry...edited my own post...

I heard on one of the talk shows that the only picture that there was, was the one with River and George sitting in that restaurant (?) together, which I believe was a fund raiser...there were no other pictures it was said..no intimate pictures...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 06, 2010, 07:11:38 PM
I just saw this and did I laugh, someone on InSessions called these letters ( Bible thumping lesbian love letters.) ::MonkeyTongue::

I know, right?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 07:12:38 PM
My favorite part is Yuri Melich's report from the jail.  On page 8 into 9-  when Caylee was found a Chaplain was asked to warn Casey.  After visiting with him she told other inmates that a small child in a blanket inside a bag had been found....    the Chaplain had not been given that information- the only people who knew that were investigators..  and of course the murderer.
Casey's big oops moment!
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069761/detail.html   

 :smt045


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: joesamas mama on April 06, 2010, 07:14:44 PM
::MonkeyTears:: I guess I don't have adobe on my laptop and can't read the documents. Is there another place I can read them, like at that doc stop website? I think that is what it is called. TIA JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: luvmyboys on April 06, 2010, 07:15:10 PM
i just keep on getting the feeling that..all these letters were a set up and the defence knew that it would get out..because it makes no sence to me that baez did not try to get them stoped from comeing out..i think this whole thing was planed..they imo have a reason for not stopping or trying to stop the release of these letters idk..just what i am thinking


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 07:15:56 PM
My favorite part is Yuri Melich's report from the jail.  On page 8 into 9-  when Caylee was found a Chaplain was asked to warn Casey.  After visiting with him she told other inmates that a small child in a blanket inside a bag had been found....    the Chaplain had not been given that information- the only people who knew that were investigators..  and of course the murderer.
Casey's big oops moment!
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069761/detail.html   

WOW..........I did not catch that................awesome catch.

Still wading through the first 516 pages in part 1.

This is a WOW oopsie!

 ::MonkeyGavel::

It sure is!    ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::    Her big mouth will ensure the DP or LWOP.     ::MonkeyGavel:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 07:16:10 PM
I just saw this and did I laugh, someone on InSessions called these letters ( Bible thumping lesbian love letters.) ::MonkeyTongue::

I know, right?

Best description I have heard yet.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 06, 2010, 07:16:45 PM
::MonkeyTears:: I guess I don't have adobe on my laptop and can't read the documents. Is there another place I can read them, like at that doc stop website? I think that is what it is called. TIA JSM

Mission nicely offered to email me the documents...I can't do the adobe update dealy cause I have Mozilla Firefox I guess...anyways, Mission will probably email them to both of us...do you have a throwaway email address for her?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 07:17:06 PM
Hey Sassy!   ::MonkeyGavel::  My eyes are gonna be ruined for life.   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 07:17:56 PM
i just keep on getting the feeling that..all these letters were a set up and the defence knew that it would get out..because it makes no sence to me that baez did not try to get them stoped from comeing out..i think this whole thing was planed..they imo have a reason for not stopping or trying to stop the release of these letters idk..just what i am thinking
your not alone


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 07:17:56 PM
i just keep on getting the feeling that..all these letters were a set up and the defence knew that it would get out..because it makes no sence to me that baez did not try to get them stoped from comeing out..i think this whole thing was planed..they imo have a reason for not stopping or trying to stop the release of these letters idk..just what i am thinking

You're not alone in your thinking.    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 07:19:38 PM
Hey Sassy!   ::MonkeyGavel::  My eyes are gonna be ruined for life.   ::MonkeyDevil::

Hi Trimm.   ::HelloKitty::    I know what you mean.     ::MonkeyHaHa::
The supplemental report is a much easier read.    Thanks for all the links today.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: joesamas mama on April 06, 2010, 07:20:14 PM
::MonkeyTears:: I guess I don't have adobe on my laptop and can't read the documents. Is there another place I can read them, like at that doc stop website? I think that is what it is called. TIA JSM

Mission nicely offered to email me the documents...I can't do the adobe update dealy cause I have Mozilla Firefox I guess...anyways, Mission will probably email them to both of us...do you have a throwaway email address for her?
Hi Cookie, I don't have a throw away email. That was very kind of Mission, but I did find a link that Seeme posted for docstoc.com and I am looking at that right now. Do you want that link?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 06, 2010, 07:20:51 PM
i just keep on getting the feeling that..all these letters were a set up and the defence knew that it would get out..because it makes no sence to me that baez did not try to get them stoped from comeing out..i think this whole thing was planed..they imo have a reason for not stopping or trying to stop the release of these letters idk..just what i am thinking

I am not sure Baez read them. Look how lazy he has been about all the other things. I bet he scanned them and really did not read them so he thought there was nothing damaging.

I am sure they want to use the things about GA, Lee & CA as part of the defense and maybe that was the only way they could get them into court without KC testifying. He may have felt to get that in it was worth the rest coming out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 07:21:56 PM
I just saw this and did I laugh, someone on InSessions called these letters ( Bible thumping lesbian love letters.) ::MonkeyTongue::

I know, right?
Wow, and I bet you just love that her nickname for her pen pal was Cookie. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: joesamas mama on April 06, 2010, 07:22:22 PM
::MonkeyTears:: I guess I don't have adobe on my laptop and can't read the documents. Is there another place I can read them, like at that doc stop website? I think that is what it is called. TIA JSM

Mission nicely offered to email me the documents...I can't do the adobe update dealy cause I have Mozilla Firefox I guess...anyways, Mission will probably email them to both of us...do you have a throwaway email address for her?
Cookie, try this. It may help I hope.

http://www.docstoc.com/search/casey-anthony-letters/?catfilter=1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on April 06, 2010, 07:22:47 PM
"Other documents released today provided insight into Krystal Holloway — who’s also known as River Cruz. Holloway said she befriended George Anthony and spent hours with her, but the relationship never turned sexual, WFTV’s Jeff Deal reported."

The relationship never turned sexual....I thought George and River had an affair....what am I missing?

 



You're missing the intimate pics we waited for that never appeared. There's more to these sisters than we've been led to believe. My eyes are so tired I will have to look deeper into their motivations another day. If I'm lucky someone else will figure everything out and post here...........


sorry...edited my own post...

I heard on one of the talk shows that the only picture that there was, was the one with River and George sitting in that restaurant (?) together, which I believe was a fund raiser...there were no other pictures it was said..no intimate pictures...



In the YM supplemental it says pictures were taken off a camera that belonged to River and haven't been released yet. No telling what is on them though. Also River or whatever her name really is told LE that the relationship was not sexual. Go figure, I'm not sure I'm believing that little statement but don't have enough info to really know. One thing that does bother me is that Sky meets and befriends KC in jail and when she is released finds out her twin has done the same with GA. To me, that is just too much of a coincidence. Bad twin has relationship with KC in jail and good twin has one with GA in the free world and neither know about the other's relationship till Sky is released from jail.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 07:23:57 PM
i just keep on getting the feeling that..all these letters were a set up and the defence knew that it would get out..because it makes no sence to me that baez did not try to get them stoped from comeing out..i think this whole thing was planed..they imo have a reason for not stopping or trying to stop the release of these letters idk..just what i am thinking

I am not sure Baez read them. Look how lazy he has been about all the other things. I bet he scanned them and really did not read them so he thought there was nothing damaging.

I am sure they want to use the things about GA, Lee & CA as part of the defense and maybe that was the only way they could get them into court without KC testifying. He may have felt to get that in it was worth the rest coming out.
I think you are right, get that tossed in about the Anthonys and the rest well....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 06, 2010, 07:25:39 PM
I've read about 150 pages of the supplemental report.......lots of interesting info. River and George did not have a sexual relationship, (and I could care less who George sleeps or doesn't sleep with) River does seems to be credible. I don't think she even realized some of the things George told her were relevant or important. Just my opinion at this point..........She lied and told George she was in this country illegally, and he thought (George the idiot) she would never go to LE and spill, because she would risk being deported....I think this woman has more intelligence than the entire Anthony clan..... ::MonkeyHaHa::
 
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/33142493/Casey-Anthony--letters-released-April-6-2010-LE-Supplemental


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 07:26:02 PM
i just keep on getting the feeling that..all these letters were a set up and the defence knew that it would get out..because it makes no sence to me that baez did not try to get them stoped from comeing out..i think this whole thing was planed..they imo have a reason for not stopping or trying to stop the release of these letters idk..just what i am thinking

I am not sure Baez read them. Look how lazy he has been about all the other things. I bet he scanned them and really did not read them so he thought there was nothing damaging.

I am sure they want to use the things about GA, Lee & CA as part of the defense and maybe that was the only way they could get them into court without KC testifying. He may have felt to get that in it was worth the rest coming out.

Any chance that Bozo will try to say that there is no way KC can get a fair trial - that Orange County should have been watching the jail employees more closely, blah blah blah....????   Try to use it as a way to have any conviction overturned??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on April 06, 2010, 07:28:02 PM
i just keep on getting the feeling that..all these letters were a set up and the defence knew that it would get out..because it makes no sence to me that baez did not try to get them stoped from comeing out..i think this whole thing was planed..they imo have a reason for not stopping or trying to stop the release of these letters idk..just what i am thinking
your not alone


Yes, something is hokey and I can't get past the connection between the evil twins and KC and GA. Something rotten...........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 06, 2010, 07:28:36 PM
::MonkeyTears:: I guess I don't have adobe on my laptop and can't read the documents. Is there another place I can read them, like at that doc stop website? I think that is what it is called. TIA JSM

http://www.docstoc.com/profile/cugie

Try here joesamas mama ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 07:28:41 PM
i just keep on getting the feeling that..all these letters were a set up and the defence knew that it would get out..because it makes no sence to me that baez did not try to get them stoped from comeing out..i think this whole thing was planed..they imo have a reason for not stopping or trying to stop the release of these letters idk..just what i am thinking

I am not sure Baez read them. Look how lazy he has been about all the other things. I bet he scanned them and really did not read them so he thought there was nothing damaging.

I am sure they want to use the things about GA, Lee & CA as part of the defense and maybe that was the only way they could get them into court without KC testifying. He may have felt to get that in it was worth the rest coming out.
I have read only what I have read from the first pdf and from what others have put up here on SM. I can't for a moment believe that Baez truly read the letters himself either. Not that it implicates within her letters that she confessed to anything - But OMG does it implicate her as being a Sociopath. UM Straight up Yes. She is not insane but clearly She is a Sociopath. 
She not only  meets 1/2 of the criteria she is the example of the criteria tri-fold.
jmo. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 07:28:43 PM

"Adams and Anthony were allowed to spend time together. Adams did not feel comfortable with discussing how they were allowed to spend time together. This time spent together was in the evening. No other inmates received these privileges in the OCJ. Adams did not have to compensate anyone for the privileges afforded her. Adams spent as much as 4-5 days per week with Anthony and the time ranged from minutes to hours."

"Adams denied a sexual relationship with Anthony while incarcerated in the OCJ."  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 07:30:40 PM

"Adams and Anthony were allowed to spend time together. Adams did not feel comfortable with discussing how they were allowed to spend time together. This time spent together was in the evening. No other inmates received these privileges in the OCJ. Adams did not have to compensate anyone for the privileges afforded her. Adams spent as much as 4-5 days per week with Anthony and the time ranged from minutes to hours."

"Adams denied a sexual relationship with Anthony while incarcerated in the OCJ."  ::MonkeyJnBox::

Sure she did


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 06, 2010, 07:33:56 PM
::MonkeyTears:: I guess I don't have adobe on my laptop and can't read the documents. Is there another place I can read them, like at that doc stop website? I think that is what it is called. TIA JSM

Mission nicely offered to email me the documents...I can't do the adobe update dealy cause I have Mozilla Firefox I guess...anyways, Mission will probably email them to both of us...do you have a throwaway email address for her?
Hi Cookie, I don't have a throw away email. That was very kind of Mission, but I did find a link that Seeme posted for docstoc.com and I am looking at that right now. Do you want that link?

yes please!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 06, 2010, 07:33:57 PM
i just keep on getting the feeling that..all these letters were a set up and the defence knew that it would get out..because it makes no sence to me that baez did not try to get them stoped from comeing out..i think this whole thing was planed..they imo have a reason for not stopping or trying to stop the release of these letters idk..just what i am thinking

I am not sure Baez read them. Look how lazy he has been about all the other things. I bet he scanned them and really did not read them so he thought there was nothing damaging.

I am sure they want to use the things about GA, Lee & CA as part of the defense and maybe that was the only way they could get them into court without KC testifying. He may have felt to get that in it was worth the rest coming out.

I agree with you Turbo, Bobo did not read these.  He either asked KC what was in them and she can not keep up with her own stories so told him nothing, or one of the flunkies was tasked to read them and never did. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 06, 2010, 07:35:07 PM

"Adams and Anthony were allowed to spend time together. Adams did not feel comfortable with discussing how they were allowed to spend time together. This time spent together was in the evening. No other inmates received these privileges in the OCJ. Adams did not have to compensate anyone for the privileges afforded her. Adams spent as much as 4-5 days per week with Anthony and the time ranged from minutes to hours."

"Adams denied a sexual relationship with Anthony while incarcerated in the OCJ."  ::MonkeyJnBox::

Sure she did

before or after she agreed to be KC's valentine?   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 06, 2010, 07:35:51 PM

"Adams and Anthony were allowed to spend time together. Adams did not feel comfortable with discussing how they were allowed to spend time together. This time spent together was in the evening. No other inmates received these privileges in the OCJ. Adams did not have to compensate anyone for the privileges afforded her. Adams spent as much as 4-5 days per week with Anthony and the time ranged from minutes to hours."

"Adams denied a sexual relationship with Anthony while incarcerated in the OCJ."  ::MonkeyJnBox::

Sure she did

sure .....what did they do for hours? no wonder Casey Ho hasn't minded being in solitary all this time! who ever was in charge of these women should be fired and not put on paid leave...jmo...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: joesamas mama on April 06, 2010, 07:36:12 PM
::MonkeyTears:: I guess I don't have adobe on my laptop and can't read the documents. Is there another place I can read them, like at that doc stop website? I think that is what it is called. TIA JSM

http://www.docstoc.com/profile/cugie

Try here joesamas mama ::MonkeyBike::
Thanks Seeme, I remembered you had posted earlier so I went back and found it. You are wonderful.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: joesamas mama on April 06, 2010, 07:37:11 PM
::MonkeyTears:: I guess I don't have adobe on my laptop and can't read the documents. Is there another place I can read them, like at that doc stop website? I think that is what it is called. TIA JSM

Mission nicely offered to email me the documents...I can't do the adobe update dealy cause I have Mozilla Firefox I guess...anyways, Mission will probably email them to both of us...do you have a throwaway email address for her?
Hi Cookie, I don't have a throw away email. That was very kind of Mission, but I did find a link that Seeme posted for docstoc.com and I am looking at that right now. Do you want that link?

yes please!
http://www.docstoc.com/search/casey-anthony-letters/?catfilter=1

Thanks to Seeme she found it,


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: BooMonkey on April 06, 2010, 07:37:24 PM
So on page 45 and 46 of http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069066.pdf she talks about going to court and loosing the "Sexy Librarian Look" sans the glasses and how she did her hair in a loose bun. She said she is disappointed in the clothes CINDY is bringing to her to wear in court. So did Cindy stuff them under a couch cushion the night before then bag them up and bring them in for her to give her the way wrinkled look??  ::MonkeyJnBox:: 

She had every intention of going to bed early before court date to look PRETTY in the morning, but ended up staying up late and writing the FORWARD TO HER LATEST CREATION a "Lovers and Friends" book cleverly stating it is not your ordinary kiss and tell book. Inquiring minds want to know and boy are they in for a treat! She has learned so much about herself that she feels she needs to share this with the world. Her super silly insights, sarcasm, insights and truth about God.

Oh dear God, hold the contents of my stomach in, I think I'm going to be sick!!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 06, 2010, 07:40:46 PM
So on page 45 and 46 of http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069066.pdf she talks about going to court and loosing the "Sexy Librarian Look" sans the glasses and how she did her hair in a loose bun. She said she is disappointed in the clothes CINDY is bringing to her to wear in court. So did Cindy stuff them under a couch cushion the night before then bag them up and bring them in for her to give her the way wrinkled look??  ::MonkeyJnBox:: 

She had every intention of going to bed early before court date to look PRETTY in the morning, but ended up staying up late and writing the FORWARD TO HER LATEST CREATION a "Lovers and Friends" book cleverly stating it is not your ordinary kiss and tell book. Inquiring minds want to know and boy are they in for a treat! She has learned so much about herself that she feels she needs to share this with the world. Her super silly insights, sarcasm, insights and truth about God.

Oh dear God, hold the contents of my stomach in, I think I'm going to be sick!!! 

wait till you hit her recipes and bragging that her new sista will never go hungry with her cooking.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 07:42:07 PM
::MonkeyTears:: I guess I don't have adobe on my laptop and can't read the documents. Is there another place I can read them, like at that doc stop website? I think that is what it is called. TIA JSM

See if you can read these   http://www.docstoc.com/search/casey-anthony-letters/?catfilter=1

Maybe you should go ahead and download the Adobe program.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 07:42:17 PM
My favorite part is Yuri Melich's report from the jail.  On page 8 into 9-  when Caylee was found a Chaplain was asked to warn Casey.  After visiting with him she told other inmates that a small child in a blanket inside a bag had been found....    the Chaplain had not been given that information- the only people who knew that were investigators..  and of course the murderer.
Casey's big oops moment!
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069761/detail.html   

WOW..........I did not catch that................awesome catch.

Still wading through the first 516 pages in part 1.

This is a WOW oopsie!

 ::MonkeyGavel::

me too!  I am on pg 176 where Robyn states she has been allowed to sneak out and visit w/ KC at 3AM..by guard Hernandez...and how the night guards sleep and a joke on a sleeping guard and she, Robyn will write a book about her jail experience

My eyes are spinning as is my head...think the Excorcist!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 07:43:17 PM
Casey

I lost a button on my Dress .. Can someone help me find it ? no nope not a Kiss just ..I needed someone to help me find my button. Casey's brain on fire.

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/caseygirlyongirl-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: luvmyboys on April 06, 2010, 07:43:28 PM
i dont think so because he is the dumba** that let the letters go out,,so therefor i dont think he has the right to even say them words..about not haveing a fair trail


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 07:43:51 PM
::MonkeyTears:: I guess I don't have adobe on my laptop and can't read the documents. Is there another place I can read them, like at that doc stop website? I think that is what it is called. TIA JSM

http://www.docstoc.com/profile/cugie

Try here joesamas mama ::MonkeyBike::
Thanks Seeme, I remembered you had posted earlier so I went back and found it. You are wonderful.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Yes she is!   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 06, 2010, 07:45:43 PM
i just keep on getting the feeling that..all these letters were a set up and the defence knew that it would get out..because it makes no sence to me that baez did not try to get them stoped from comeing out..i think this whole thing was planed..they imo have a reason for not stopping or trying to stop the release of these letters idk..just what i am thinking

I am not sure Baez read them. Look how lazy he has been about all the other things. I bet he scanned them and really did not read them so he thought there was nothing damaging.

I am sure they want to use the things about GA, Lee & CA as part of the defense and maybe that was the only way they could get them into court without KC testifying. He may have felt to get that in it was worth the rest coming out.

I agree with you Turbo, Bobo did not read these.  He either asked KC what was in them and she can not keep up with her own stories so told him nothing, or one of the flunkies was tasked to read them and never did. 

We don't call him Bozo for nothing.    ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 06, 2010, 07:47:24 PM
thanks for the link Seeme....now I can read the letters...not sure if that is good or bad lol! my specs are getting a work out with that handwriting of Casey ho" s....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 07:48:29 PM
So BOZO was sneaking letters out for her to the A's...and he was going to try to smuggle word search books?  So what else as he smuggling in????

Shoestring licorice.      ::piggy::   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on April 06, 2010, 07:48:44 PM
The nutty defense, dimished capacity doesn't work for the not guilty, someone else did it.
Anything she reportedly said, not wrote isn't going to be allowed as the purpose for Robin was to help her own case.
....
Why didn't Bozo get her some mental health help in there instead of almost leading her on with chance he could get her off ? 
..
Another thought, didn't she frist see the news about the remains before she saw the chaplin ? Didn't they have her in front of the TV ?
..
She is one sick puppy and so are Cindy, George and Lee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 06, 2010, 07:48:57 PM
i just keep on getting the feeling that..all these letters were a set up and the defence knew that it would get out..because it makes no sence to me that baez did not try to get them stoped from comeing out..i think this whole thing was planed..they imo have a reason for not stopping or trying to stop the release of these letters idk..just what i am thinking

I am not sure Baez read them. Look how lazy he has been about all the other things. I bet he scanned them and really did not read them so he thought there was nothing damaging.

I am sure they want to use the things about GA, Lee & CA as part of the defense and maybe that was the only way they could get them into court without KC testifying. He may have felt to get that in it was worth the rest coming out.

I agree with you Turbo, Bobo did not read these.  He either asked KC what was in them and she can not keep up with her own stories so told him nothing, or one of the flunkies was tasked to read them and never did. 

We don't call him Bozo for nothing.    ::rhino::

agreed...he could not have read these letters and let them come out without a fight....or as you say, we don't call him Bozo for nothing...but wouldn't Mason or someone else more knowledgeable than bozo have read these???? just nuts!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: joesamas mama on April 06, 2010, 07:49:14 PM
okay, I have been reading bits and pieces all day today and IIRC, I have counted at least 6 times she has called herself a "celebrity"  ::MonkeyNoNo:: She is nothing but a disgusting vile creature that needs to be sqaushed like a toad.  ::MonkeyMad::

Rant over  ::MonkeyBike:: BBL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 07:53:58 PM
My favorite part is Yuri Melich's report from the jail.  On page 8 into 9-  when Caylee was found a Chaplain was asked to warn Casey.  After visiting with him she told other inmates that a small child in a blanket inside a bag had been found....    the Chaplain had not been given that information- the only people who knew that were investigators..  and of course the murderer.
Casey's big oops moment!
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069761/detail.html   


O SNAP!!!   What a duma$$ ho (your mother confirmed it  ::MonkeyDevil::) who do you think would be believed a man of the cloth or Casey, that answer is obvious to all except for Casey...I think its official her defense team, no excuse me, "her boys" are out of their ever loving minds stating that these letters & supplemental report are not going to help nail her arse to the gurney.   Good lord

Justice is coming


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 07:58:53 PM
i just keep on getting the feeling that..all these letters were a set up and the defence knew that it would get out..because it makes no sence to me that baez did not try to get them stoped from comeing out..i think this whole thing was planed..they imo have a reason for not stopping or trying to stop the release of these letters idk..just what i am thinking

I am not sure Baez read them. Look how lazy he has been about all the other things. I bet he scanned them and really did not read them so he thought there was nothing damaging.

I am sure they want to use the things about GA, Lee & CA as part of the defense and maybe that was the only way they could get them into court without KC testifying. He may have felt to get that in it was worth the rest coming out.

Any chance that Bozo will try to say that there is no way KC can get a fair trial - that Orange County should have been watching the jail employees more closely, blah blah blah....????   Try to use it as a way to have any conviction overturned??
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He can try, but he wont succeed in any capacity - the inmate knows that passing letters amongst each other is a no-no, her letters even refer to it being a secret & that the daytime jail crew could not be trusted.   It doesnt matter if the employees dropped the ball, what matter is Casey participated in doing something she knew was against the rules.   Yes, the guard was suspended rightfully so but her participation does not leave Casey not accountable for her participation.   It certainly would not get a conviction overturned in any shape, way or form.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 06, 2010, 08:01:36 PM

"Adams and Anthony were allowed to spend time together. Adams did not feel comfortable with discussing how they were allowed to spend time together. This time spent together was in the evening. No other inmates received these privileges in the OCJ. Adams did not have to compensate anyone for the privileges afforded her. Adams spent as much as 4-5 days per week with Anthony and the time ranged from minutes to hours."

"Adams denied a sexual relationship with Anthony while incarcerated in the OCJ."  ::MonkeyJnBox::

Sure she did

before or after she agreed to be KC's valentine?   ::MonkeyJnBox::

...and the bestest she has ever had in her life!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: luvmyboys on April 06, 2010, 08:01:58 PM
that is what i was saying. i don't think for 1 minute that baez read the letters either..i am saying someone from her dream team did..if not,then i say it was planned they did this on purpose..and the dream team can forget going back later,and saying the letters will affect the trial,,ummmmmm so what buddy!!!!you allowed it.so deal with it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 06, 2010, 08:03:32 PM
So on page 45 and 46 of http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069066.pdf she talks about going to court and loosing the "Sexy Librarian Look" sans the glasses and how she did her hair in a loose bun. She said she is disappointed in the clothes CINDY is bringing to her to wear in court. So did Cindy stuff them under a couch cushion the night before then bag them up and bring them in for her to give her the way wrinkled look??  ::MonkeyJnBox:: 

She had every intention of going to bed early before court date to look PRETTY in the morning, but ended up staying up late and writing the FORWARD TO HER LATEST CREATION a "Lovers and Friends" book cleverly stating it is not your ordinary kiss and tell book. Inquiring minds want to know and boy are they in for a treat! She has learned so much about herself that she feels she needs to share this with the world. Her super silly insights, sarcasm, insights and truth about God.

Oh dear God, hold the contents of my stomach in, I think I'm going to be sick!!! 

The blouse showed too much cleavage. LOL

Boo: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg1105562#msg1105562


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on April 06, 2010, 08:03:32 PM

"Adams and Anthony were allowed to spend time together. Adams did not feel comfortable with discussing how they were allowed to spend time together. This time spent together was in the evening. No other inmates received these privileges in the OCJ. Adams did not have to compensate anyone for the privileges afforded her. Adams spent as much as 4-5 days per week with Anthony and the time ranged from minutes to hours."

"Adams denied a sexual relationship with Anthony while incarcerated in the OCJ."  ::MonkeyJnBox::

Interesting ..no...the info in these docs should seal her fate.  She  wrote all this stuff
knowing full well that in prison there is no expectation of privacy or privilege. 

I personally like the parts where she writes that her defense team came to visit her and was whaling on Cindy.  So ..they were responsible for separating her from her family.  They needed complete control over her..and they made sure they got it.  Also they keep correcting her, well according to her ..that it isn't if she gets out..it is when.

Mason..hurry on down there to the jailhouse and talk some sense into this murdering b*tch..she better start requesting a plea bargain now.  I have a feeling the State has a lot more info then we know about and a lot more evidence.  This is their way of putting the turn to the screw.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 06, 2010, 08:04:19 PM
Wouldn't it make sense that SOMEONE on the dufense team would have put a stop to these letters being released to the public??
Something stinks..... 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 08:06:15 PM
The face on the young man is worth a thousand words -

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/caseygirlyongirl-1-1-1.jpg)

All of what has been said that Casey Romanced the Women in Jail, had time alone with Robyn. Hmmph. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck its probably a duck. Not a Lesbian though.  I don't even believe her to be Bi ::MonkeyNoNo:: Just Casey who has used and abused others in order for her to get her way. To gain shock value and attention by her actions. She wanted just that - the night of this Halloween party. Why because she was probably invited by a another. Amy or Annie was invited and then told Casey "You can come along if you want". So Casey thought OH Sure - I will be the center of attention rubbing her hands together spending 100.00+ of Cindy's money for her costume.. and then displaying herself -so the camera's would catch her in action Never to be forgotten of those who went to the party.. Remember that Girl who  ::MonkeyEek::.... what was her name?
She even with her costume, was not enough,  but by her behavior she wanted to be remembered. And she made that happen obviously.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on April 06, 2010, 08:07:29 PM
i just keep on getting the feeling that..all these letters were a set up and the defence knew that it would get out..because it makes no sence to me that baez did not try to get them stoped from comeing out..i think this whole thing was planed..they imo have a reason for not stopping or trying to stop the release of these letters idk..just what i am thinking

I am not sure Baez read them. Look how lazy he has been about all the other things. I bet he scanned them and really did not read them so he thought there was nothing damaging.

I am sure they want to use the things about GA, Lee & CA as part of the defense and maybe that was the only way they could get them into court without KC testifying. He may have felt to get that in it was worth the rest coming out.

I agree with you Turbo, Bobo did not read these.  He either asked KC what was in them and she can not keep up with her own stories so told him nothing, or one of the flunkies was tasked to read them and never did. 

We don't call him Bozo for nothing.    ::rhino::

agreed...he could not have read these letters and let them come out without a fight....or as you say, we don't call him Bozo for nothing...but wouldn't Mason or someone else more knowledgeable than bozo have read these???? just nuts!

I believe that Mason and Lyon want to plea her out.  She has more then likely refused because up until now Baez has been tellin her she will get out..not if..when.

Mason and Lyon know this is damaging..but it also should shine a light on Casey's thoughts that it is time to plea..they got the goods on you Muffin!  This makes Lyon and Mason's job much easier to request that she try for a plea deal.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: klaasend on April 06, 2010, 08:07:42 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 08:13:04 PM
The nutty defense, dimished capacity doesn't work for the not guilty, someone else did it.
Anything she reportedly said, not wrote isn't going to be allowed as the purpose for Robin was to help her own case.
....
Why didn't Bozo get her some mental health help in there instead of almost leading her on with chance he could get her off ? 
..
Another thought, didn't she frist see the news about the remains before she saw the chaplin ? Didn't they have her in front of the TV ?
..
She is one sick puppy and so are Cindy, George and Lee.
Yes the whole family is bonkers.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 08:15:56 PM
I agree with you Gypsy.  This makes Lyon and Mason's job much easier to request that she try for a plea deal.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 06, 2010, 08:26:08 PM
So BOZO was sneaking letters out for her to the A's...and he was going to try to smuggle word search books?  So what else as he smuggling in????

Shoestring licorice.      ::piggy::   

In River's statement she says Georgie has been communicating with Casey via letters THRU Bozo Baez since her incarceration. George told her this. Now whether Bozo let her read them or not, who knows....... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: CarolF on April 06, 2010, 08:31:51 PM
Poor Poor Caylee! OMG what that little girl must have gone through in her short life. I was physically sick for days after seeing the imprint in the trunk of the car of a baby back there and this is even worse. I have only started reading the letters but listening to NG tonight. That poor baby I just don't even have the right words to say how sickening this all is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 06, 2010, 08:41:51 PM
i just keep on getting the feeling that..all these letters were a set up and the defence knew that it would get out..because it makes no sence to me that baez did not try to get them stoped from comeing out..i think this whole thing was planed..they imo have a reason for not stopping or trying to stop the release of these letters idk..just what i am thinking

I am not sure Baez read them. Look how lazy he has been about all the other things. I bet he scanned them and really did not read them so he thought there was nothing damaging.

I am sure they want to use the things about GA, Lee & CA as part of the defense and maybe that was the only way they could get them into court without KC testifying. He may have felt to get that in it was worth the rest coming out.

Any chance that Bozo will try to say that there is no way KC can get a fair trial - that Orange County should have been watching the jail employees more closely, blah blah blah....????   Try to use it as a way to have any conviction overturned??

Hmmmmmmmm................not sure she can use her own breaking the rules of the jail as a reason for appeal. Good question.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: luvmyboys on April 06, 2010, 08:45:16 PM
imo no because he or they allowed these letters to go out into the public,so i don't think that they can say anything like that


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 06, 2010, 08:46:39 PM
Oh Gawd...Padilla is rambling ::MonkeyNoNo::

Someone correct me....LP is saying no way was there ever chloroform in that house. He knows this cause when Caylee was born they vowed never to have guns in their house....what the he!! does that have to do with chloroform? Didn't LE retrieve a gun of George's during one of the searches? I am not talking about the one they came in the middle of the night and took out of his car. I thought I read where another gun was found during an earlier search.
I may be remembering incorrectly....does anyone recall?

LP has spent like 10 or less days with the Ant's, and he thinks he knows everything about those wingnuts......LP, you don't have a clue buddy....take a chill pill!
 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: klaasend on April 06, 2010, 08:46:57 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 06, 2010, 08:47:41 PM
i just keep on getting the feeling that..all these letters were a set up and the defence knew that it would get out..because it makes no sence to me that baez did not try to get them stoped from comeing out..i think this whole thing was planed..they imo have a reason for not stopping or trying to stop the release of these letters idk..just what i am thinking

I am not sure Baez read them. Look how lazy he has been about all the other things. I bet he scanned them and really did not read them so he thought there was nothing damaging.

I am sure they want to use the things about GA, Lee & CA as part of the defense and maybe that was the only way they could get them into court without KC testifying. He may have felt to get that in it was worth the rest coming out.

I agree with you Turbo, Bobo did not read these.  He either asked KC what was in them and she can not keep up with her own stories so told him nothing, or one of the flunkies was tasked to read them and never did. 

We don't call him Bozo for nothing.    ::rhino::

agreed...he could not have read these letters and let them come out without a fight....or as you say, we don't call him Bozo for nothing...but wouldn't Mason or someone else more knowledgeable than bozo have read these???? just nuts!

I believe that Mason and Lyon want to plea her out.  She has more then likely refused because up until now Baez has been tellin her she will get out..not if..when.

Mason and Lyon know this is damaging..but it also should shine a light on Casey's thoughts that it is time to plea..they got the goods on you Muffin!  This makes Lyon and Mason's job much easier to request that she try for a plea deal.

I think you are so right. I believe that is why Mason was brought into the case. Lyon and Mason KNOW she is going to be convicted and the best she can hope for is life without parole.

She should sue that ding bat Baez afterward, no matter what because he should have plead her out for the location of the body. She could have been out in about 8 years and the best she can hope for now is life.

He & her parents are the ones who have put her in jail for life and maybe the death penalty.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 08:49:17 PM
snipped from WESH http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/23064066/detail.html

Anthony also stated in the letters that she's an emotional wreck and said she was sexually abused.  "I woke up night after night with my sports bra lifted over my chest or if I had a regular bra, it would be unhooked," Anthony wrote.
Anthony claimed her brother would walk into her room at night and feel her breasts.


If it did indeed happen - she had Options and she had ppl to tell within, Parents, School, authorities someone. She had options. I do not know if she is telling the truth or not.

Not to make her words my own, but I had a instance of my Brother's friend who did touch me " in the same area, I was 13 "  my Brother was in the same room. The room was dark, we were watching TV, (my parents were out) and his friend slipped his hand down my shirt - within 10 seconds I bolted from the room and locked myself in the bathroom. My brother almost beat the door down because he could hear me crying and  he could not for the life of him figure out what happened. I knew if I told my Brother his best friend touched me - that his friend would be dead. That was seconds of abuse. That moment is and always has been a trigger in my mind. It was so brief yet was so damaging. I was best friends with    " Touchy Feel's " sister. I told Her what her Brother did to me. She then told her Mother. Her Mother said right to my face " I bet you enjoyed it" You have always been a flirt with my son. I WAS 13- I was a child. His Mother though stood right to me, face to face, in her kitchen and said to me - You deserved it- she said quite calmly as she made a salad. She was a ER Nurse for over 35 yrs too. What did I deserve? Her 16 yr old son taking advantage of me ? I never told my Mother, nor my Father - or my Brother for that matter. I felt that if his Mother did not believe me. ?? I knew though if My DAD found out what had happened to me - he would have killed Touchy and not thought anything of it. He would have ripped his head of his shoulders. No question. 
I don't think for a moment that Casey could ever feel what I felt - or what anyone truly finds to feel within abuse. Casey is ambivalent.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 08:49:50 PM
Oh Gawd...Padilla is rambling ::MonkeyNoNo::

Someone correct me....LP is saying no way was there ever chloroform in that house. He knows this cause when Caylee was born they vowed never to have guns in their house....what the he!! does that have to do with chloroform? Didn't LE retrieve a gun of George's during one of the searches? I am not talking about the one they came in the middle of the night and took out of his car. I thought I read where another gun was found during an earlier search.
I may be remembering incorrectly....does anyone recall?

LP has spent like 10 or less days with the Ant's, and he thinks he knows everything about those wingnuts......LP, you don't have a clue buddy....take a chill pill!
 ::MonkeyCool::
He really needs to shut up, what would he know about what was in their house or not in their house?  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 08:51:23 PM
River's interview with the police is interesting. ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 08:54:28 PM
Oh Gawd...Padilla is rambling ::MonkeyNoNo::

Someone correct me....LP is saying no way was there ever chloroform in that house. He knows this cause when Caylee was born they vowed never to have guns in their house....what the he!! does that have to do with chloroform? Didn't LE retrieve a gun of George's during one of the searches? I am not talking about the one they came in the middle of the night and took out of his car. I thought I read where another gun was found during an earlier search.
I may be remembering incorrectly....does anyone recall?

LP has spent like 10 or less days with the Ant's, and he thinks he knows everything about those wingnuts......LP, you don't have a clue buddy....take a chill pill!
 ::MonkeyCool::

LP - media whore will say anything no matter how outrageous to get his ugly ass on TV.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 06, 2010, 08:55:20 PM
Oh Gawd...Padilla is rambling ::MonkeyNoNo::

Someone correct me....LP is saying no way was there ever chloroform in that house. He knows this cause when Caylee was born they vowed never to have guns in their house....what the he!! does that have to do with chloroform? Didn't LE retrieve a gun of George's during one of the searches? I am not talking about the one they came in the middle of the night and took out of his car. I thought I read where another gun was found during an earlier search.
I may be remembering incorrectly....does anyone recall?

LP has spent like 10 or less days with the Ant's, and he thinks he knows everything about those wingnuts......LP, you don't have a clue buddy....take a chill pill!
 ::MonkeyCool::

You are right.................LP has lost his mind. I wonder WHY all of a sudden he is defending the Anthonys. There is something very sinister going on here and I don't have a clear picture of it yet, but I am sure the monkeys will eventually figure it out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 08:58:14 PM
River's interview with the police is interesting. ::MonkeyShocked::

I had to give up for the night on pg 204 of the first set......when she started in about she was going to pursue a law career when she got out and write children's books..........I thought what the hell..I have sat here several hours reading the rantings of a homicidal manic.............I must be nuts!  LOL  I will read more tomorrow!  Where is River's interview?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 06, 2010, 09:01:29 PM
I will be back later. My mind has hit overload trying to read and sort out all the crap in those letters.

I will say, that I do believe she was sexually abused. I have thought from day one that she had all the behaviors of a woman who had been sexually abused very young. She compartmentalizes her life, and that is so telling to me.

I will be back later and read some more if my eyes and mind hold out. LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: NCMike on April 06, 2010, 09:01:56 PM
River's interview with the police is interesting. ::MonkeyShocked::

I had to give up for the night on pg 204 of the first set......when she started in about she was going to pursue a law career when she got out and write children's books..........I thought what the hell..I have sat here several hours reading the rantings of a homicidal manic.............I must be nuts!  LOL  I will read more tomorrow!  Where is River's interview?

Right here Sunny

http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

This pdf is pretty good, just finished it myself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 06, 2010, 09:03:45 PM
Welp ... finished part 1.

Although it is 516 pages long, around 260-something, it all gets repeated! So it really is not so long.

Whew!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: NCMike on April 06, 2010, 09:05:07 PM
Wonder what is in the 152 page journal of Casey that Brad Conway handed over in February of this year?!?!?!?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 09:06:54 PM
thanks for the ideas on how to get these letters on my computer...not working...I have a good adblock and my anti virus won't allow certain things on here...oh well,,,I will try a few other things...enjoying reading your comments though!
how could Bozo think that this would not have been harmful to Casey Ho??? he is such an idiot!
Cookie if you have a throw away email I will email the docs for you.

thank you! I do...bless you..bless you!!!
Angelina485@yahoo.com
Cookie you have nanners.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 06, 2010, 09:06:56 PM
River's interview with the police is interesting. ::MonkeyShocked::

I had to give up for the night on pg 204 of the first set......when she started in about she was going to pursue a law career when she got out and write children's books..........I thought what the hell..I have sat here several hours reading the rantings of a homicidal manic.............I must be nuts!  LOL  I will read more tomorrow!  Where is River's interview?

Well, we're both nuts then!  LOL

I am not sure which pdf to read now that I finished part 1.

Maybe take a break!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 06, 2010, 09:10:32 PM
thanks for the ideas on how to get these letters on my computer...not working...I have a good adblock and my anti virus won't allow certain things on here...oh well,,,I will try a few other things...enjoying reading your comments though!
how could Bozo think that this would not have been harmful to Casey Ho??? he is such an idiot!
Cookie if you have a throw away email I will email the docs for you.

thank you! I do...bless you..bless you!!!
Angelina485@yahoo.com
Cookie you have nanners.

thank you very much...you are so thoughtful! one of my faves! will go check it out...
Seeme provided a link too so I have been able to read them...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 09:21:07 PM
River's interview with the police is interesting. ::MonkeyShocked::

I had to give up for the night on pg 204 of the first set......when she started in about she was going to pursue a law career when she got out and write children's books..........I thought what the hell..I have sat here several hours reading the rantings of a homicidal manic.............I must be nuts!  LOL  I will read more tomorrow!  Where is River's interview?
I'm done for the night also. I finished part one, I'm on part two page 99. River's interview is part two, the supplemental. The old eyes are cross eyed right now  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 09:21:53 PM
I will be back later. My mind has hit overload trying to read and sort out all the crap in those letters.

I will say, that I do believe she was sexually abused. I have thought from day one that she had all the behaviors of a woman who had been sexually abused very young. She compartmentalizes her life, and that is so telling to me.

I will be back later and read some more if my eyes and mind hold out. LOL
I have thought that early on as well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 06, 2010, 09:22:32 PM
Wonder what is in the 152 page journal of Casey that Brad Conway handed over in February of this year?!?!?!?
Love to see that also.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 06, 2010, 09:34:17 PM
thanks for the ideas on how to get these letters on my computer...not working...I have a good adblock and my anti virus won't allow certain things on here...oh well,,,I will try a few other things...enjoying reading your comments though!
how could Bozo think that this would not have been harmful to Casey Ho??? he is such an idiot!
Cookie if you have a throw away email I will email the docs for you.

thank you! I do...bless you..bless you!!!
Angelina485@yahoo.com
Cookie you have nanners.

thank you very much...you are so thoughtful! one of my faves! will go check it out...
Seeme provided a link too so I have been able to read them...
::MonkeyWink:: You are welcome.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 06, 2010, 09:35:07 PM
ok...so is Tracy and Robyn really sisters or are they like Casey and Robyn sisters???

I really don't think that Robyn wanted to rat on Casey with these notes...did she have to come forward with them? I know she mentioned in one part something about maybe they would or could be worth money someday...but in most, she doesn't want Casey to get into trouble...Robyn sounds like she really cared for Casey? dunno...will know more the more that I read...my eyes are crossed at this point too!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: yuknomenot on April 06, 2010, 09:37:08 PM
I am attempting to make my way through these letters, but my head is spinning  ::MonkeyEek::.  Every once in a while it stops and something nags me but I can't quite get a grasp on it.  Something to do with the tone of these letters, then on page 74 she mentions late night chats and in the back of my mind I keep thinking about Jose's late night visits to the jail.  I keep flip-flopping between these letters being a set-up and Bozo being Bozo not actually going to the trouble to read them, hence he has no clue (like that's anything new  ::MonkeyTongue::) what is in them.  Seriously, is Bozo bright enough to come up with this kind of scheme? Think I'm having an "is it real or is it Memorex" moment.  Thanks for letting me vent  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 06, 2010, 09:41:00 PM
So the Ants email letters to Bobo and he brings them to KC.  He also is trying to smuggle in suduko and word search puzzles.  He is a mule and not a lawyer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 09:41:35 PM
River's interview with the police is interesting. ::MonkeyShocked::

I had to give up for the night on pg 204 of the first set......when she started in about she was going to pursue a law career when she got out and write children's books..........I thought what the hell..I have sat here several hours reading the rantings of a homicidal manic.............I must be nuts!  LOL  I will read more tomorrow!  Where is River's interview?

Right here Sunny

http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

This pdf is pretty good, just finished it myself.

Hi Mike...thanks!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 06, 2010, 09:47:18 PM
River's interview with the police is interesting. ::MonkeyShocked::

Extremely.  Everyone be sure to read it.   I'm halfway through it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 09:49:38 PM
Wonder what is in the 152 page journal of Casey that Brad Conway handed over in February of this year?!?!?!?

Mike, please explain further??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 09:52:07 PM
River's interview with the police is interesting. ::MonkeyShocked::

I had to give up for the night on pg 204 of the first set......when she started in about she was going to pursue a law career when she got out and write children's books..........I thought what the hell..I have sat here several hours reading the rantings of a homicidal manic.............I must be nuts!  LOL  I will read more tomorrow!  Where is River's interview?
I'm done for the night also. I finished part one, I'm on part two page 99. River's interview is part two, the supplemental. The old eyes are cross eyed right now  ::MonkeyHaHa::

thanks nrcg...............no more tonight....I heard someone in this case say KC talked all the time.............I believe it now...........she never shuts up even when she writing!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: BooMonkey on April 06, 2010, 09:52:37 PM
Wonder what is in the 152 page journal of Casey that Brad Conway handed over in February of this year?!?!?!?

Mike, please explain further??

In the 2nd pdf as you are scrolling through all the legal papers of dvds and cd's and q hairs being logged and bagged, it states that Brad Conway gave LE a journal of Casey's that was 152 pages long. No other description or explanation. Just that it was received by LE.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 09:53:33 PM
So the Ants email letters to Bobo and he brings them to KC.  He also is trying to smuggle in suduko and word search puzzles.  He is a mule and not a lawyer.

 ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 06, 2010, 09:55:02 PM
Wonder what is in the 152 page journal of Casey that Brad Conway handed over in February of this year?!?!?!?

Mike, please explain further??

In the 2nd pdf as you are scrolling through all the legal papers of dvds and cd's and q hairs being logged and bagged, it states that Brad Conway gave LE a journal of Casey's that was 152 pages long. No other description or explanation. Just that it was received by LE.

thanks BOO.....I haven't finished the first pdf yet... ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on April 06, 2010, 10:05:25 PM
Wonder what is in the 152 page journal of Casey that Brad Conway handed over in February of this year?!?!?!?

Mike, please explain further??

In the 2nd pdf as you are scrolling through all the legal papers of dvds and cd's and q hairs being logged and bagged, it states that Brad Conway gave LE a journal of Casey's that was 152 pages long. No other description or explanation. Just that it was received by LE.

Isn't that the one where she had written that she had no regrets etc. I think CA held onto it after LE examined it. She mentioned that when they were on LK show..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on April 06, 2010, 10:07:07 PM
So the Ants email letters to Bobo and he brings them to KC.  He also is trying to smuggle in suduko and word search puzzles.  He is a mule and not a lawyer.

I hope he gets in lots of trouble for doing this. He already had to be told about breaking jail rules by too much physical contact with KC- now he is smuggling in contraband. I hope the Florida Bar throws the book at him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on April 06, 2010, 10:07:48 PM
So the Ants email letters to Bobo and he brings them to KC.  He also is trying to smuggle in suduko and word search puzzles.  He is a mule and not a lawyer.[/size]

LOL  NORTHERN ROSE ...THIS IS THE BEST POST OF THE NIGHT..CHEERS       ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: my2cents on April 06, 2010, 10:11:12 PM
I am attempting to make my way through these letters, but my head is spinning  ::MonkeyEek::.  Every once in a while it stops and something nags me but I can't quite get a grasp on it.  Something to do with the tone of these letters, then on page 74 she mentions late night chats and in the back of my mind I keep thinking about Jose's late night visits to the jail.  I keep flip-flopping between these letters being a set-up and Bozo being Bozo not actually going to the trouble to read them, hence he has no clue (like that's anything new  ::MonkeyTongue::) what is in them.  Seriously, is Bozo bright enough to come up with this kind of scheme? Think I'm having an "is it real or is it Memorex" moment.  Thanks for letting me vent  ::MonkeyCool::
where can I find the letters?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 06, 2010, 10:13:52 PM
So the Ants email letters to Bobo and he brings them to KC.  He also is trying to smuggle in suduko and word search puzzles.  He is a mule and not a lawyer.

I hope he gets in lots of trouble for doing this. He already had to be told about breaking jail rules by too much physical contact with KC- now he is smuggling in contraband. I hope the Florida Bar throws the book at him.


 :smt045 :smt045 :smt045  ITA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on April 06, 2010, 10:14:00 PM
River's interview with the police is interesting. ::MonkeyShocked::

Extremely.  Everyone be sure to read it.   I'm halfway through it.

Yes..it really seems very genuine to me.

I also thought the interview of Linda T was interesting.  This is another interview with her..it seems after the first interview she paid a visit to George and Cindy.   They talk about wanting to show her a pic of a person..but they don't have that included.  I am wondering if it will turn out to be Laura B.   They are talking to her about a TES volunteer.  Ideas anyone?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on April 06, 2010, 10:15:39 PM
Oh Gawd...Padilla is rambling ::MonkeyNoNo::

Someone correct me....LP is saying no way was there ever chloroform in that house. He knows this cause when Caylee was born they vowed never to have guns in their house....what the he!! does that have to do with chloroform? Didn't LE retrieve a gun of George's during one of the searches? I am not talking about the one they came in the middle of the night and took out of his car. I thought I read where another gun was found during an earlier search.
I may be remembering incorrectly....does anyone recall?

LP has spent like 10 or less days with the Ant's, and he thinks he knows everything about those wingnuts......LP, you don't have a clue buddy....take a chill pill!
 ::MonkeyCool::

I don't know why NG still has him on the show, it's not like he knows anything, he just rambles. What do guns have to do with chloroform...   he was terrible tonight. Put him out of his misery please Nancy..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 06, 2010, 10:16:07 PM
I am attempting to make my way through these letters, but my head is spinning  ::MonkeyEek::.  Every once in a while it stops and something nags me but I can't quite get a grasp on it.  Something to do with the tone of these letters, then on page 74 she mentions late night chats and in the back of my mind I keep thinking about Jose's late night visits to the jail.  I keep flip-flopping between these letters being a set-up and Bozo being Bozo not actually going to the trouble to read them, hence he has no clue (like that's anything new  ::MonkeyTongue::) what is in them.  Seriously, is Bozo bright enough to come up with this kind of scheme? Think I'm having an "is it real or is it Memorex" moment.  Thanks for letting me vent  ::MonkeyCool::
where can I find the letters?

http://www.docstoc.com/search/casey-anthony-letters/?catfilter=1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on April 06, 2010, 10:20:39 PM
i just keep on getting the feeling that..all these letters were a set up and the defence knew that it would get out..because it makes no sence to me that baez did not try to get them stoped from comeing out..i think this whole thing was planed..they imo have a reason for not stopping or trying to stop the release of these letters idk..just what i am thinking
your not alone


Yes, something is hokey and I can't get past the connection between the evil twins and KC and GA. Something rotten...........

I think they're all scammers and all meant to be together!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 10:22:43 PM
So the Ants email letters to Bobo and he brings them to KC.  He also is trying to smuggle in suduko and word search puzzles.  He is a mule and not a lawyer.
Nanners sent to you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 06, 2010, 10:22:46 PM
i just keep on getting the feeling that..all these letters were a set up and the defence knew that it would get out..because it makes no sence to me that baez did not try to get them stoped from comeing out..i think this whole thing was planed..they imo have a reason for not stopping or trying to stop the release of these letters idk..just what i am thinking
your not alone


Yes, something is hokey and I can't get past the connection between the evil twins and KC and GA. Something rotten...........

I think they're all scammers and all meant to be together!  ::MonkeyWink::

yes, together in the same 8x8 jail cell ....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 10:27:52 PM
I am attempting to make my way through these letters, but my head is spinning  ::MonkeyEek::.  Every once in a while it stops and something nags me but I can't quite get a grasp on it.  Something to do with the tone of these letters, then on page 74 she mentions late night chats and in the back of my mind I keep thinking about Jose's late night visits to the jail.  I keep flip-flopping between these letters being a set-up and Bozo being Bozo not actually going to the trouble to read them, hence he has no clue (like that's anything new  ::MonkeyTongue::) what is in them.  Seriously, is Bozo bright enough to come up with this kind of scheme? Think I'm having an "is it real or is it Memorex" moment.  Thanks for letting me vent  ::MonkeyCool::
where can I find the letters?
My2cents - http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/23064066/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 06, 2010, 10:29:25 PM
Krystal Holloway's [River] contribution to this case cannot be underestimated, IMO.  I find her very believeable & likeable as well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 10:33:36 PM
I stopped reading after page 5 - why I don't know. For whatever reason I don't know.
I can't wrap my brain around it.
I can't go there. Me of all Monkeys. I just cant. I feel it in my bones and Its much more than words written - and I don't know if I want to read past page 5.
It all makes me sick to my stomach.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on April 06, 2010, 10:34:50 PM
i just keep on getting the feeling that..all these letters were a set up and the defence knew that it would get out..because it makes no sence to me that baez did not try to get them stoped from comeing out..i think this whole thing was planed..they imo have a reason for not stopping or trying to stop the release of these letters idk..just what i am thinking
your not alone



LE said they wanted to talk to River or Krystol whatever again. Am thinking there are more interviews not released yet. Also get the impression, correct me if I'm wrong, that she is or was one of those ladies of the night........Another thing, if she cared so much for GA and had all these serious feelings then it seems like things would have naturally progressed in the bedroom area. I noticed LE kept giving her an out if she was lying about not having sex with that worm but she stayed with her story. I am now waiting for more to be revealed.


Yes, something is hokey and I can't get past the connection between the evil twins and KC and GA. Something rotten...........

I think they're all scammers and all meant to be together!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on April 06, 2010, 10:37:44 PM
I sort of think Baez has knew all along Casey is a loose cannon.  She certainly doesn't take advice or direction well.  At the very beginning of this case he asked for a plea bargain to be put on the table, in July, then asked for an extention, which he got.  Then it expired.  I think his original thinking was to plea her out and call it a day.  But she refused..and he smelled money with the national press around..and said what the heck..I'm just following my clients instructions.

What gets me in the letters is where she is talking about her team bad mouthing Cindy and Brad.  I think that is where they started to gain some minor control over her.  I think Baez knew enough to know she was communicating with other inmates so I think he possibly advised to admit to nothing, and get out her feelings about her family.  Thus thrown under the bus..along with Conway.   Now Casey has thrown herself under the bus... 

I still don't buy the sexual abuse.  She was fixated on sex.  I think she thought that she was hot, hot, hot..and that any person would buy her being sexually abused by the men in her life.  She talks about all her love letters and the hot guys who write her and want to take care of her/  Infact  she talks a lot about wanting a guy to take care of her.

She also talked a lot about Jesse..I think she is still smarting from that love being withdrawn from her.  I think she felt she had Jesse wrapped around her little finger.  But Jesse loved Caylee too..and she couldn't have that ..anymore then she could abide her Mom and Dad loving Caylee.  Or everyone being concerned about Caylee being missing..she just didn't get it..and she probably never will.  She is stuck in the age of a two year old..where it is all about her and tantrums will be thrown if she doesn't get what she wants when she wants it.
All this in the meantime loving God and waiting for the Endtimes.  What a wild ride her mind must be on.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on April 06, 2010, 10:42:00 PM
I stopped reading after page 5 - why I don't know. For whatever reason I don't know.
I can't wrap my brain around it.
I can't go there. Me of all Monkeys. I just cant. I feel it in my bones and Its much more than words written - and I don't know if I want to read past page 5.
It all makes me sick to my stomach.



Page 5 of what? Are you feeling like you can't handle the evil behind this whole mess. The fact that there are ghouls and grave robbers all around waiting to pounce on their own little piece of the action. Something Wicked This Way Comes. I'll read it for you, in fact I might have already read it as I've been jumping all around until I'm dizzy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 10:45:16 PM
The nutty defense, dimished capacity doesn't work for the not guilty, someone else did it.
Anything she reportedly said, not wrote isn't going to be allowed as the purpose for Robin was to help her own case.
....
Why didn't Bozo get her some mental health help in there instead of almost leading her on with chance he could get her off ? 
..
Another thought, didn't she frist see the news about the remains before she saw the chaplin ? Didn't they have her in front of the TV ?
..
She is one sick puppy and so are Cindy, George and Lee.

No, she did not see coverage of the remains being discovered.    She saw coverage of the search at Jay Blanchard Park in November but not any news Dec 11th.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 06, 2010, 10:49:00 PM
Am taking a break from reading the letters cuz my eyes are crossing.  lol 

Am catching up in here, still back on page 43 tho.  Just wanted to say that the defense may feel this stuff is worthless, whatever.. but there are pages missing. 

Am carefully clicking on page after page reading along, watching the page count.  One letter ends with Casey signing off, the next page begins in the middle of a sentence.  This has happened a couple of times. 

Next time it happens, I'll jot the page #'s down.  Pages are in sequence and haven't skipped numbers yet, but actual pages in the letters are missing.  If that makes sense. 

Guess what I'm trying to say is that defense is feeling that what they've *released* is worthless.   I'd like to read those skipped pages and see what it is they don't want us to read.  heh. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 11:00:15 PM
Wonder what is in the 152 page journal of Casey that Brad Conway handed over in February of this year?!?!?!?

Mike, please explain further??

In the 2nd pdf as you are scrolling through all the legal papers of dvds and cd's and q hairs being logged and bagged, it states that Brad Conway gave LE a journal of Casey's that was 152 pages long. No other description or explanation. Just that it was received by LE.

Cindy passed it along to Brad to be locked up after the diary pages came out & everyone debated whether Casey's last entry actually was 2008 or 2003, I still contend that it was indeed 2008 but someone wrote 2003 afterwards - ya know sort of like giving the FBI the wrong hair brush knowing full well what specifically was being requested.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on April 06, 2010, 11:10:22 PM
The nutty defense, dimished capacity doesn't work for the not guilty, someone else did it.
Anything she reportedly said, not wrote isn't going to be allowed as the purpose for Robin was to help her own case.
....
Why didn't Bozo get her some mental health help in there instead of almost leading her on with chance he could get her off ? 
..
Another thought, didn't she frist see the news about the remains before she saw the chaplin ? Didn't they have her in front of the TV ?
..
She is one sick puppy and so are Cindy, George and Lee.

No, she did not see coverage of the remains being discovered.    She saw coverage of the search at Jay Blanchard Park in November but not any news Dec 11th.   



KC did see the breaking news of the discovery of a body that turned out to be Caylee. She saw it when she was brought to the infirmary. She had some kind of melt down and asked for medication. Baez won't let the tape of the episode be released to the public.


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6629027/Casey-Anthony-Tammy-Uncer-transcript-1-june-2009


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 06, 2010, 11:12:45 PM
I just saw this and did I laugh, someone on InSessions called these letters ( Bible thumping lesbian love letters.) ::MonkeyTongue::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::    :silent:    ::MonkeyTongue::





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Babybear on April 06, 2010, 11:29:52 PM
The nutty defense, dimished capacity doesn't work for the not guilty, someone else did it.
Anything she reportedly said, not wrote isn't going to be allowed as the purpose for Robin was to help her own case.
....
Why didn't Bozo get her some mental health help in there instead of almost leading her on with chance he could get her off ? 
..
Another thought, didn't she frist see the news about the remains before she saw the chaplin ? Didn't they have her in front of the TV ?
..
She is one sick puppy and so are Cindy, George and Lee.

No, she did not see coverage of the remains being discovered.    She saw coverage of the search at Jay Blanchard Park in November but not any news Dec 11th.   



KC did see the breaking news of the discovery of a body that turned out to be Caylee. She saw it when she was brought to the infirmary. She had some kind of melt down and asked for medication. Baez won't let the tape of the episode be released to the public.


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6629027/Casey-Anthony-Tammy-Uncer-transcript-1-june-2009

Yes, N2, you are correct.  She only saw the information that a body of a child was found and because she likely placed the body there, knew it was Caylee.  It was only later that it was disclosed the child's remains (REMAINS, George) were wrapped in a blanket and placed in two garbage bags and a canvas laundry bag.  It was reported that she hyperventilated and had some kind of emotional breakdown.  The tape of this episode has not been released because of Baez's objection.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: akmom on April 06, 2010, 11:39:28 PM
Hi Monkeys, I am just starting on the letters, 7 pages in, I've been gone all day.  I am at the WTF stage already.  C is acting like a school girl giggling, chatting, and making curlicue letters.......she wants to help with missing children because before the Rapture many more will go missing.....  I have no words........ ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 06, 2010, 11:41:33 PM

Deenie..    (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/hug.gif)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Babybear on April 06, 2010, 11:41:43 PM
I just saw this and did I laugh, someone on InSessions called these letters ( Bible thumping lesbian love letters.) ::MonkeyTongue::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::    :silent:    ::MonkeyTongue::





Wyks, I think they are lesbian love letters.  Casey does whatever is required in any situation.  In this case the situation might have called for a lesbian love affair.  That's what the letters sound like to me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 06, 2010, 11:45:36 PM
I just saw this and did I laugh, someone on InSessions called these letters ( Bible thumping lesbian love letters.) ::MonkeyTongue::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::    :silent:    ::MonkeyTongue::





Wyks, I think they are lesbian love letters.  Casey does whatever is required in any situation.  In this case the situation might have called for a lesbian love affair.  That's what the letters sound like to me.

Oh yeah, I think so too! 

Gosh, we got all the makin's of a regular peyton place with this case!   ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 11:47:54 PM
I stopped reading after page 5 - why I don't know. For whatever reason I don't know.
I can't wrap my brain around it.
I can't go there. Me of all Monkeys. I just cant. I feel it in my bones and Its much more than words written - and I don't know if I want to read past page 5.
It all makes me sick to my stomach.



Page 5 of what? Are you feeling like you can't handle the evil behind this whole mess. The fact that there are ghouls and grave robbers all around waiting to pounce on their own little piece of the action. Something Wicked This Way Comes. I'll read it for you, in fact I might have already read it as I've been jumping all around until I'm dizzy.
N2WISHN you of all Monkeys - know this type of person. You serving as Employee within the Correctional system.  I read your reply to me. I think you find Casey's verbage just as disturbing as I do. Yet you know more than the ave Monkey here. I happen to agree with your assessment of Something Wicked this Way Comes. 
My feelings are a mixed bag right now and I don't find reading more than I have already - past page 5 to be exact.  I can't today, maybe tomorrow. or not. Whatever. I find her/Casey words to be Puke and I cannot read them. That is my stance as it is for now.  I am not above anyone nor less than - I just cannot read anymore than I have.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 06, 2010, 11:48:41 PM
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069761/detail.html

bottom of page 12....BAD BOY George

Asks River if she can give him $20,000 (she didn't)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: cecilita on April 06, 2010, 11:52:07 PM
The nutty defense, dimished capacity doesn't work for the not guilty, someone else did it.
Anything she reportedly said, not wrote isn't going to be allowed as the purpose for Robin was to help her own case.
....
Why didn't Bozo get her some mental health help in there instead of almost leading her on with chance he could get her off ? 
..
Another thought, didn't she frist see the news about the remains before she saw the chaplin ? Didn't they have her in front of the TV ?
..
She is one sick puppy and so are Cindy, George and Lee.

No, she did not see coverage of the remains being discovered.    She saw coverage of the search at Jay Blanchard Park in November but not any news Dec 11th.   



KC did see the breaking news of the discovery of a body that turned out to be Caylee. She saw it when she was brought to the infirmary. She had some kind of melt down and asked for medication. Baez won't let the tape of the episode be released to the public.


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6629027/Casey-Anthony-Tammy-Uncer-transcript-1-june-2009
maybe she wrote the letter after she knew how they found caylee and she mentioned that in the letter after the facts


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 06, 2010, 11:53:31 PM
The nutty defense, dimished capacity doesn't work for the not guilty, someone else did it.
Anything she reportedly said, not wrote isn't going to be allowed as the purpose for Robin was to help her own case.
....
Why didn't Bozo get her some mental health help in there instead of almost leading her on with chance he could get her off ? 
..
Another thought, didn't she frist see the news about the remains before she saw the chaplin ? Didn't they have her in front of the TV ?
..
She is one sick puppy and so are Cindy, George and Lee.

No, she did not see coverage of the remains being discovered.    She saw coverage of the search at Jay Blanchard Park in November but not any news Dec 11th.   

I should clarify that she did not see coverage until after the Chaplin saw her & she was in the med unit of the jail - remember Bozo having a fit that his associate was at the jail & he was told he had to wait to see her because they were in the midst of transferring her to inform her.   She did see coverage after & we certainly heard all about her reaction.   The defense spent a complete waste of time attempting to say the jail acted inappropriately & wanted videotape of her in the med unit reacting to the news sealed.   Regardless, the details of how the remains were found were not being readily reported within that first hour of the news breaking as I recall...Id have to go back and look to be positive, Im way too spent tonight to search for it.   

This statement of hers as well as her stating that the Zeneida she "knew" for four years that she still maintains had Caylee did not do this, meaning kill Caylee.  I think the defense did not discourage her from writing anything to throw her family under the bus, that is obvious but how they can say in total that these letters are not damning is laughable if it wasnt so serious.    Casey knows she is cornered & all throughout her ramblings she is setting herself up to play the victim (guess the general concensus is that it would be a mitigating factor during sentencing but it certainly will not get her acquitted that is for dang skippy certain).  She is also mudding the waters quite purposefully as well as attempting to formulate a defense i.e. she didnt report Caylee "missing" because she was and wasnt.

We have to remember that this is not the first time she used this alleged abuse when she needed to garner sympathy.   She told Tony & Jessie the same bunk & bull.  If we examine when she does bring this up its when she is cornered or feeling that she is losing people in her life because they have gotten beyond frustrated with her & she has nothing left to manipulate them with.  She also has used it as a ploy so that she gets the sense that maybe, just maybe some guy would eventually become her protector & provider.  In her letters she describes both touching her ta tas, well Im sorry but why would both men allegedly only violate her in that area only repetitively, nope I do not buy it for one second.  Casey isnt talking about one occasion where some school boy tried to cop a feel (not that an incident like that isnt violating) & yet something stops her from taking her allegations too far, one has to ask why.   It definitely does appear that her mother drove home that to be a complete woman she had to have a man to marry....this family puts the D in dysfunctional to say the least.   I still do not believe for one second that either her brother or father sexually abused her, one of the other main things I see is that if she felt that she was abused by either or both she would have never left her innocent babygirl alone with either of them...and I mean EVER.   I remember seeing what a friend of Casey's reported in their statement to LE that Cindy called her own daughter a liar, thief & sociopath...well truer words   were never spoken, to bad Cindy doesnt stay true to the truth.

It is way too late in the game to go with a diminished capacity or insanity plea, that ship sailed over a year and half ago.  Casey does not have a medical record that indicates that she was regularly seen for a mental disorder nor steady prescription as part of a treatment plan, she did undergo a battery of tests upon her incarceration & regularly saw a psychiatrist in jail.   If Casey was medicated for let's say bi-polar disorder, we'd know about it by now not by discovery because it is sealed but thru her defense team putting forward a defense or at least touched upon during a court hearing - this has never occurred.  The defense made their biggest blunder not even attempting to get her classified with some mental health disorder from the getgo.  Evidence of premeditation will also nip that thought in the bud.   IMHO, Casey is not mentally ill, far from insane - much of her dribble in those letters were to appear off but its by design not disorder.   She is a sociopath with narcissistic tendencies but is fully aware of the difference between right & wrong as well as totally cognizant of what she is doing & her surroundings.   Regardless of what is true or not true pertaining to her family, as an adult she had options, getting a job & claiming an independence for herself & Caylee would have been the first step to the rest of her life but she is too lazy & is a stranger to not only the truth but hard work.   It has been my opinion from July 08' that she killed Caylee to spite her mother & her desired freedom was a secondary motivator.   To me, these letters firm my original thoughts & makes me loathe her more, if that is even possible.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 06, 2010, 11:59:50 PM
Thank you Wykes for the (( Hug)) .. I will let the Stronger Monkeys access the letters .. I can't do it. I don't know why I can't deal with her written words. Its a mystery to me even.
I am out. Love and Light to All -
God Bless Caylee
 ::MonkeyPeace::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 07, 2010, 12:02:23 AM
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069761/detail.html

bottom of page 12....BAD BOY George

Asks River if she can give him $20,000 (she didn't)



I found it interesting that she told the guard at the front gate of her residence not to let George in to visit her anymore. That must have been a real shocker to that ego manic. LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: akmom on April 07, 2010, 12:07:12 AM
I am so tired and trying to go thru this stuff.  I don't have time to go back and read what everyone else has said about these letters.  I am freaking out.  Is this monkey story something that Casey wrote???????????  Dead monkeys and trying to slow the decomp by freezing?????????????  Did she do this to Caylee and is speaking in code?????????????????????????????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 07, 2010, 12:08:19 AM
I stopped reading after page 5 - why I don't know. For whatever reason I don't know.
I can't wrap my brain around it.
I can't go there. Me of all Monkeys. I just cant. I feel it in my bones and Its much more than words written - and I don't know if I want to read past page 5.
It all makes me sick to my stomach.



Page 5 of what? Are you feeling like you can't handle the evil behind this whole mess. The fact that there are ghouls and grave robbers all around waiting to pounce on their own little piece of the action. Something Wicked This Way Comes. I'll read it for you, in fact I might have already read it as I've been jumping all around until I'm dizzy.
N2WISHN you of all Monkeys - know this type of person. You serving as Employee within the Correctional system.  I read your reply to me. I think you find Casey's verbage just as disturbing as I do. Yet you know more than the ave Monkey here. I happen to agree with your assessment of Something Wicked this Way Comes. 
My feelings are a mixed bag right now and I don't find reading more than I have already - past page 5 to be exact.  I can't today, maybe tomorrow. or not. Whatever. I find her/Casey words to be Puke and I cannot read them. That is my stance as it is for now.  I am not above anyone nor less than - I just cannot read anymore than I have.

I think sometimes  evil affects people like that. What we are reading is a true look into a psychopathic mind set and it is very difficult for some sensitive souls. I sympathize with you as you are evidently more sensitive. That type of evil is very powerful believe it or not and for a sensitive soul, it can be downright paralyzing. I would skip it for now and just read what some of the monkeys are pointing out in it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 07, 2010, 12:11:41 AM
I am so tired and trying to go thru this stuff.  I don't have time to go back and read what everyone else has said about these letters.  I am freaking out.  Is this monkey story something that Casey wrote???????????  Dead monkeys and trying to slow the decomp by freezing?????????????  Did she do this to Caylee and is speaking in code?????????????????????????????

It obviously means SOMETHING to her. I wondered about the freezing too because it gave me cold chills when I read how she had to remove food from the freezer to place the body. It immediately brought to mind how she took all that frozen food to Tony's and gave me a real chill because I had wondered if the baby had been placed in one of those freezers in their garage when I saw them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 07, 2010, 12:14:52 AM
I am so tired and trying to go thru this stuff.  I don't have time to go back and read what everyone else has said about these letters.  I am freaking out.  Is this monkey story something that Casey wrote???????????  Dead monkeys and trying to slow the decomp by freezing?????????????  Did she do this to Caylee and is speaking in code?????????????????????????????

It looks like something printed off the net and stuck in there with her written letters.  Not sure what to make of it beyond that.   Not even sure how someone would have found something like that on the net to begin with.  But at the bottom of that page there was some kind of url to where it was.  Freaky weird! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Tevye on April 07, 2010, 12:16:16 AM
Thank you Wykes for the (( Hug)) .. I will let the Stronger Monkeys access the letters .. I can't do it. I don't know why I can't deal with her written words. Its a mystery to me even.
I am out. Love and Light to All -
God Bless Caylee
 ::MonkeyPeace::
Deenie, it's much easier to read the Sheriff's reports. Those at least we know to be true. I've been so busy today (at 11:30, I finally said "screw the presentation speech writing, I've gotta catch up at Sacred Monkey's!) that all I glanced at was the first page of CRZY's love letters (which were purely an attempt to manipulate the receiver...sociopath to the MAX!! classic behaviour) and flew on to the sheriff stuff. I don't think I'll even waste my time (on Thursday, life begins again on Thursday!) on Crzy's "bible thumping les-be-friends" letters.

You take a well-deserved break, you've SO earned it! Thank you for all your research!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 07, 2010, 12:16:52 AM
Thank you Wykes for the (( Hug)) .. I will let the Stronger Monkeys access the letters .. I can't do it. I don't know why I can't deal with her written words. Its a mystery to me even.
I am out. Love and Light to All -
God Bless Caylee
 ::MonkeyPeace::

You're welcome, and hope you have a good night! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: akmom on April 07, 2010, 12:18:37 AM
I am so tired and trying to go thru this stuff.  I don't have time to go back and read what everyone else has said about these letters.  I am freaking out.  Is this monkey story something that Casey wrote???????????  Dead monkeys and trying to slow the decomp by freezing?????????????  Did she do this to Caylee and is speaking in code?????????????????????????????

It obviously means SOMETHING to her. I wondered about the freezing too because it gave me cold chills when I read how she had to remove food from the freezer to place the body. It immediately brought to mind how she took all that frozen food to Tony's and gave me a real chill because I had wondered if the baby had been placed in one of those freezers in their garage when I saw them.

This is one of the worst, most awful things I have felt or read during this whole case.  Almost a for-shadowing of what we are to learn.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 12:20:20 AM
I am so tired and trying to go thru this stuff.  I don't have time to go back and read what everyone else has said about these letters.  I am freaking out.  Is this monkey story something that Casey wrote???????????  Dead monkeys and trying to slow the decomp by freezing?????????????  Did she do this to Caylee and is speaking in code?????????????????????????????

It obviously means SOMETHING to her. I wondered about the freezing too because it gave me cold chills when I read how she had to remove food from the freezer to place the body. It immediately brought to mind how she took all that frozen food to Tony's and gave me a real chill because I had wondered if the baby had been placed in one of those freezers in their garage when I saw them.


I remember that...and I kept making comments that LE needed to check out the freezer in the garage.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 12:23:00 AM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

page 79, line 1

"And I knew he was lying then."

Krystal talking about George describing Zenaida to the detectives...but... the description was of Krystal.  BAD BOY!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 07, 2010, 12:27:05 AM
She's saying she is having seizures in her sleep.  WTH?  Like how would she know if she's asleep!  My mid son had a few grand mal seizures just before waking up, when he was very young, and he never remembered those.  Only way I even knew about them was cuz I had gone in there to wake him up for school and found him having a seizure.  I kinda *doubt* that Casey was having seizures.  If anything am thinking she was biting her tongue, breaking out in a sweat, etc.. in having nightmares from what she did to Caylee.    IMO





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 12:27:29 AM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

page 80, line 3 - Did you and George become romantically involved?

Krystal, line 4 - No we didn't.

There you go...no affair...




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: akmom on April 07, 2010, 12:32:23 AM
I am so glad that we Monkeys can get these things off of our chests.  This is deep, deep evil.  There is no doubt in my mind that C knew that these letters would come out.  Her calling upon God and claiming to know him and his will is an abomination.  This is an evil spirit's attempt at manipulation and I NEVER talk like this.  I am sick over this and what that baby endured over her whole life.  I hope the As all burn...... sorry for my strong words, but they are all evil.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 12:34:31 AM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

pages 83, 84 and especially 85

Krystal discussing the money she gave George and at the tent with George talking on the phone to Cindy, giving her he77 about getting money.  Gotta see it!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 12:36:07 AM
I am so glad that we Monkeys can get these things off of our chests.  This is deep, deep evil.  There is no doubt in my mind that C knew that these letters would come out.  Her calling upon God and claiming to know him and his will is an abomination.  This is an evil spirit's attempt at manipulation and I NEVER talk like this.  I am sick over this and what that baby endured over her whole life.  I hope the As all burn...... sorry for my strong words, but they are all evil.

I'm wondering...you know Jesse's comment that KC was like a chameleon?...well..
we don't see the letters from the inmate to KC...I'm wondering if the inmate uses a lot of religious phrases and KC is being a chameleon in her writings back to the inmate.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 12:44:08 AM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

start on page 89

Krystal going to the A's home, Cindy (sedated, crying) answers door and questions Krystal about giving money to George



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 07, 2010, 12:47:07 AM
I am so glad that we Monkeys can get these things off of our chests.  This is deep, deep evil.  There is no doubt in my mind that C knew that these letters would come out.  Her calling upon God and claiming to know him and his will is an abomination.  This is an evil spirit's attempt at manipulation and I NEVER talk like this.  I am sick over this and what that baby endured over her whole life.  I hope the As all burn...... sorry for my strong words, but they are all evil.

I'm wondering...you know Jesse's comment that KC was like a chameleon?...well..
we don't see the letters from the inmate to KC...I'm wondering if the inmate uses a lot of religious phrases and KC is being a chameleon in her writings back to the inmate.



Yep I think that exactly what Casey is doing, mirroring back those phrases to Robyn, and whatever the chaplain was saying to her etc.  I honestly didn't think I could be shocked by anything Casey might say, but I'm telling ya, I never for a moment thought I'd hear THIS kind of stuff (religious/spiritual talk) coming from her!  And like a monkey said earlier on today, coming from her it's very offensive.  IMO. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 12:51:18 AM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

page 93, line 10

Krystal thinks Kalani gave her number to the media and told them that she and George were sleeping together....because Krystal wouldn't give Kalani any money.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 07, 2010, 01:01:21 AM
I am so tired and trying to go thru this stuff.  I don't have time to go back and read what everyone else has said about these letters.  I am freaking out.  Is this monkey story something that Casey wrote???????????  Dead monkeys and trying to slow the decomp by freezing?????????????  Did she do this to Caylee and is speaking in code?????????????????????????????

It obviously means SOMETHING to her. I wondered about the freezing too because it gave me cold chills when I read how she had to remove food from the freezer to place the body. It immediately brought to mind how she took all that frozen food to Tony's and gave me a real chill because I had wondered if the baby had been placed in one of those freezers in their garage when I saw them.

This is one of the worst, most awful things I have felt or read during this whole case.  Almost a for-shadowing of what we are to learn.

I agree and it immediately came to mind about how the Anthonys got rid of that second freezer all of a sudden.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: akmom on April 07, 2010, 01:01:58 AM
I am so glad that we Monkeys can get these things off of our chests.  This is deep, deep evil.  There is no doubt in my mind that C knew that these letters would come out.  Her calling upon God and claiming to know him and his will is an abomination.  This is an evil spirit's attempt at manipulation and I NEVER talk like this.  I am sick over this and what that baby endured over her whole life.  I hope the As all burn...... sorry for my strong words, but they are all evil.

I'm wondering...you know Jesse's comment that KC was like a chameleon?...well..
we don't see the letters from the inmate to KC...I'm wondering if the inmate uses a lot of religious phrases and KC is being a chameleon in her writings back to the inmate.



Yep I think that exactly what Casey is doing, mirroring back those phrases to Robyn, and whatever the chaplain was saying to her etc.  I honestly didn't think I could be shocked by anything Casey might say, but I'm telling ya, I never for a moment thought I'd hear THIS kind of stuff (religious/spiritual talk) coming from her!  And like a monkey said earlier on today, coming from her it's very offensive.  IMO. 


I think you guys are right.  It is beyond creepy though.  I am not sure how I can still be overwhelmed by anything she says or does.  I feel that this is stuff that she knew would come out though.  I am going to sign off of here and try to finish reading.  Night Monkeys


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 01:03:46 AM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

starting at page 96

Krystal talking about George being angry with KC and slamming her against the wall

read pages through to 101, line 21

Krystal said George thought since the beginning that KC had some involvement..."he's know the whole time."



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 01:08:16 AM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

page 103, line 5

"'He said Cindy's a carbon copy of her." (KC)

gotta love this...and Krystal's meaning of that was: "Cold. She's got battery acid running through her veins. She's cold."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 07, 2010, 01:12:08 AM
I am so glad that we Monkeys can get these things off of our chests.  This is deep, deep evil.  There is no doubt in my mind that C knew that these letters would come out.  Her calling upon God and claiming to know him and his will is an abomination.  This is an evil spirit's attempt at manipulation and I NEVER talk like this.  I am sick over this and what that baby endured over her whole life.  I hope the As all burn...... sorry for my strong words, but they are all evil.

I'm wondering...you know Jesse's comment that KC was like a chameleon?...well..
we don't see the letters from the inmate to KC...I'm wondering if the inmate uses a lot of religious phrases and KC is being a chameleon in her writings back to the inmate.



Yep I think that exactly what Casey is doing, mirroring back those phrases to Robyn, and whatever the chaplain was saying to her etc.  I honestly didn't think I could be shocked by anything Casey might say, but I'm telling ya, I never for a moment thought I'd hear THIS kind of stuff (religious/spiritual talk) coming from her!  And like a monkey said earlier on today, coming from her it's very offensive.  IMO. 


I think you guys are right.  It is beyond creepy though.  I am not sure how I can still be overwhelmed by anything she says or does.  I feel that this is stuff that she knew would come out though.  I am going to sign off of here and try to finish reading.  Night Monkeys

Night akmom!    ::monkeywine2::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 01:22:01 AM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

pages 113, 114  interesting about letters from George to KC and it being contraband.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 01:30:05 AM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

page 116, line 3

Krystal says that George "knew that she never existed" (Zenaida)

page 117, top portion
re:  Lee

Krystal says that "He knows, he knows" and that George said "Cause George said that his son is not gonna stand by...and continue...to cover up like that".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 01:47:26 AM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

page 129, line 15 and forward

Krystal says that in the beginning, George didn't really think that KC was the cause of the bad smell in the car, because if he had known, he would have never opened his mouth. 

That George knew when KC was out on bail and he threw KC against the wall.

Also, line 25: They (G&C) don't talk.  This shouldn't be news to you, you guys know that".



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 02:06:33 AM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

pages 141, 142

River has led some to believe that she's in this country illegally:
George thought he was safe and that she would never talk to LE because she's illegal.
Kalani has threatened her that he will turn her into immigration if she doesn't give him money.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 07, 2010, 02:17:21 AM
You are way ahead of me in reading!  LOL  am still in part 1, page 174.  Was sitting here wondering how many times in these 174 pages the word *I* has been written.  Just on this one page without scrolling she has used *I* fourteen times. 

Am thinking my reading has slowed to crawl. I must. need. sleep.   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Nite all!   ::piggy::

     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: ISpy on April 07, 2010, 02:41:10 AM
I am so tired and trying to go thru this stuff.  I don't have time to go back and read what everyone else has said about these letters.  I am freaking out.  Is this monkey story something that Casey wrote???????????  Dead monkeys and trying to slow the decomp by freezing?????????????  Did she do this to Caylee and is speaking in code?????????????????????????????

It obviously means SOMETHING to her. I wondered about the freezing too because it gave me cold chills when I read how she had to remove food from the freezer to place the body. It immediately brought to mind how she took all that frozen food to Tony's and gave me a real chill because I had wondered if the baby had been placed in one of those freezers in their garage when I saw them.

Popping in for a few...only made it to page 80 tonight.  TA that the sideways format is hard to read.  I've been copying those pages, pasting them in Word and rotating them to read...don't like that it's slowing me down though!  LOL!  The Monkey Poem was in a word-SICK!  In view of the fact that Casey killed Caylee (IMO) and was very familiar with the smell of decomp (being that she drove around a decomp filled car for weeks, MO backed by evidence), the fact that she even found/kept/passed on this poem as a humorous diversion to jail life was absolutely sickening.  IMO, it's excellent evidence for the State's Attorneys office of Casey's sociopathic/psychopathic tendencies.  Particularly given the obvious state of the Pontiac, Casey being last in possession of the car, and the condition of Caylee's remains, Casey's inclusion of this poem categorically defies all semblance of a grieving mother.  IMO, Casey did indeed find this humorous because it resonated with her personal quandary in disposing of Caylee's body after she killed her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 02:50:55 AM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

pages 226, 227

KC and inmate spent entire nights together in the same cell



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: ISpy on April 07, 2010, 03:33:11 AM
Just adding my 2 cents.  ITA with all of you that Casey, the chameleon was merely parroting religious phrases back to Robyn.  She needed Robyn to help get her [Casey's] message out that: Cindy provided the chloroform; GA & Lee sexually abused her; her family physically, emotionally, and mentally abused her; and it was someone else's fault.  I, too, am angered that Casey is using God in her little ploy.  Of course, the real Casey oozes through the cracks in the facade though.  Here's hot to tell if an inmate has truly found God while they are incarcerated...they will freely admit their guilt, confess their crime in detail, and show visible remorse.  They will also tell you point blank that Jesus is Lord.  Notice Casey does none of those of those things...there you go.

I feel somewhat sorry for Robyn who appears to believe she is helping Casey Anthony know God better.  It is sickening to "see" Casey playing her and equally sickening to "see" Casey playing to Robyn's loneliness and real concerns.  True to a sociopath's form, Casey exudes an excess of charm and concern for Robyn.  In truth, she verbally "rushes" (think Fraternity/Sorority) Robyn into close intimacy here.  That's what is setting off so many red flags for all of us.  We sense Robyn being set up for the kill, so to speak.  We read Casey verbally caressing Robyn, for lack of a better term, much as lover does... singling her out, feeding her self-esteem, emphasizing their shared characteristics/common experiences, using affectionate nicknames/terms of endearment, making plans for "their" future, and promising to be the proverbial white knight in shining armor to save and defend.  The letters are an exemplary display of Casey's manipulative tactics though.  They are also a fascinating study in how Casey morphs/segues the facts into lies, resulting in her always being the hapless victim.  They are a treasure trove of Casey's tactics.  Reading this, I agree with some of you that these letters are in effect Casey testifying without directly testifying by collectively throwing her family under the bus, under the guise of unburdening herself to her BFF.  IMO, this was Casey's idea.  I would hazard a few guesses here:
  • She is uncontrollable and may not have told Baez until after the fact.
  • She did this thinking everyone would believe, since GA & CA always gave her a pass on her lies.  She may have told Baez who thought it might work or he knew he couldn't stop her anyway.

Finally, the whole Lee Anthony (anguished tone) "CMA!CMA!CMA!" thing- IMO, Lee knew Casey was past the point of no return with her parents.  He knew Cindy orchestrating Caylee's memorial was the absolute last straw for Casey.  He knew very well exactly what his sister was capable of (as her closest confidant and often co-conspirator against THE PARENTS) and the secrets she was keeping for such a day as this.  IMO, that's what prompted that awful, anguished "CMA!CMA!CMA!" from Lee.  He knew not only was she capable of destroying Caylee, but she was also now bent on destroying the entire family because they had [in their limited capacity] dared to love someone else besides her.  All MOO 


[/list]   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 03:41:28 AM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

pages 266, 267

Corrections Officer, Sheila Hernandez, says that Casey and Robyn never spent a night or even hours together in a cell



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 03:45:43 AM
    Just adding my 2 cents.  ITA with all of you that Casey, the chameleon was merely parroting religious phrases back to Robyn.  She needed Robyn to help get her [Casey's] message out that: Cindy provided the chloroform; GA & Lee sexually abused her; her family physically, emotionally, and mentally abused her; and it was someone else's fault.  I, too, am angered that Casey is using God in her little ploy.  Of course, the real Casey oozes through the cracks in the facade though.  Here's hot to tell if an inmate has truly found God while they are incarcerated...they will freely admit their guilt, confess their crime in detail, and show visible remorse.  They will also tell you point blank that Jesus is Lord.  Notice Casey does none of those of those things...there you go.

    I feel somewhat sorry for Robyn who appears to believe she is helping Casey Anthony know God better.  It is sickening to "see" Casey playing her and equally sickening to "see" Casey playing to Robyn's loneliness and real concerns.  True to a sociopath's form, Casey exudes an excess of charm and concern for Robyn.  In truth, she verbally "rushes" (think Fraternity/Sorority) Robyn into close intimacy here.  That's what is setting off so many red flags for all of us.  We sense Robyn being set up for the kill, so to speak.  We read Casey verbally caressing Robyn, for lack of a better term, much as lover does... singling her out, feeding her self-esteem, emphasizing their shared characteristics/common experiences, using affectionate nicknames/terms of endearment, making plans for "their" future, and promising to be the proverbial white knight in shining armor to save and defend.  The letters are an exemplary display of Casey's manipulative tactics though.  They are also a fascinating study in how Casey morphs/segues the facts into lies, resulting in her always being the hapless victim.  They are a treasure trove of Casey's tactics.  Reading this, I agree with some of you that these letters are in effect Casey testifying without directly testifying by collectively throwing her family under the bus, under the guise of unburdening herself to her BFF.  IMO, this was Casey's idea.  I would hazard a few guesses here:
    • She is uncontrollable and may not have told Baez until after the fact.
    • She did this thinking everyone would believe, since GA & CA always gave her a pass on her lies.  She may have told Baez who thought it might work or he knew he couldn't stop her anyway.

    Finally, the whole Lee Anthony (anguished tone) "CMA!CMA!CMA!" thing- IMO, Lee knew Casey was past the point of no return with her parents.  He knew Cindy orchestrating Caylee's memorial was the absolute last straw for Casey.  He knew very well exactly what his sister was capable of (as her closest confidant and often co-conspirator against THE PARENTS) and the secrets she was keeping for such a day as this.  IMO, that's what prompted that awful, anguished "CMA!CMA!CMA!" from Lee.  He knew not only was she capable of destroying Caylee, but she was also now bent on destroying the entire family because they had [in their limited capacity] dared to love someone else besides her.  All MOO 


    [/list]   

    ISPY...you've made some very good points...thank you!



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: ISpy on April 07, 2010, 04:14:32 AM
    It was also fascinating to see how Casey "massaged" Robyn's ego asking how she was, how her situation was, and expressing *ahem* concern and encouragement...only to spend the majority of her letter talking about herself.  LOL!  True sociopath, IMO!  It was enlightening to see this pattern repeated over and over throughout the letters.  Casey just could not help herself.

    The other interesting thing was the way Casey laid the groundwork for her mitigating circumstances defense, by weaving in a garden variety of accusations against family members and Jesse.  Egotistically speaking, she likely felt this was brilliant on her part.  It was amusing that she went to great lengths to cover all her bases, carefully detailing each family member's part in the thing.  It makes me feel sort of like applauding an actor at the end of his long-winded soliloquy (and adding, "Don't call us.  We'll call you. NEXT!").  The thing is, IMO, the A's have done some covering up and they know it.  Now they're caught in a trap of their own making...to deny everything Casey said will open them up to Casey giving specifics of their actions to LE.  To not deny Casey's accusations is to make them guilty in the eyes of the public/possibly LE.  Remembering that there's usually a grain of truth in Casey's lies.  IMO, before this is all said and done, we'll see the Anthony family implode as it becomes every man/woman for himself/herself.  I think Cindy (more so) and George seriously underestimated Casey as an opponent.  Casey, it appears has plenty of ammunition, as evidenced by Cindy's apparent concern with Casey reassuring her in the August jail videos, "Don't worry, Mom.  I didn't tell them anything.".

    Someone (I'm sorry your name escapes me at this early hour) stated yesterday they perceive Casey's perpetual motions in court as attempts to hide her excitement- ITA!  After reviewing both video and still shots on several networks, I completely concur.  The hand wringing, lint picking, clothes pulling, hair swishing/smoothing, and poker face are her attempts to mask her excitement.  She is thrilled with the attention, but knows better than to show it...it's a game (remember her Survivor post about being the ultimate contestant).  She's been practicing manipulation for a loooong time, IMO.  I'm sure her so-called friends all realize now they've been had. They were a means to an end, every one of them.  They were all merely there to meet Casey's needs at the moment, players in her one act play.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: ISpy on April 07, 2010, 04:17:55 AM
    Puzzler- thanks!  I really like your dancing Snoopy, by the way.  It always makes me smile!  Thanks for posting those links to the interview with Robyn. Hmmm, hmmmm, hmmmm.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: ISpy on April 07, 2010, 04:19:12 AM
    Well, need to be up in a few hours.  Time to run.  Hope you all have a good day.  The hunt is on!  Take good care and God bless you!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Deenie on April 07, 2010, 04:47:05 AM
    For Caylee


    http://www.youtube.com/v/XTeHEWBJUfk&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: BooMonkey on April 07, 2010, 05:06:40 AM
    Richard J Grund: It's not the quoting of scripture that proves anything. It's the living of it that proves who you are. Heck, the devil can quote scripture!

     ::MonkeyCool::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 07, 2010, 05:55:57 AM
    http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

    pages 83, 84 and especially 85

    Krystal discussing the money she gave George and at the tent with George talking on the phone to Cindy, giving her he77 about getting money.  Gotta see it!



    I agree Puzzler, I found Krystal's statement was quite interesting.....I got a chuckle or 2 when I realized Krystal duped George. (he believed she was here in the USA illegally and would never disclose their relationship and/or discussions)
    He would have bled her dry of every red cent had she not seen George's true colors, IMO.

    Oh no she didn't tell her gate-guard to deny access at some point......OH,YES SHE DID!!! Kudos Krystal!! ::MonkeyJnBox::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 07, 2010, 06:13:18 AM
    http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

    page 103, line 5

    "'He said Cindy's a carbon copy of her." (KC)

    gotta love this...and Krystal's meaning of that was: "Cold. She's got battery acid running through her veins. She's cold."

    OMG, I loved this too Puzzler....I'm so glad I read the supplemental report before KC's letters.
    I put this statement of Krystal's in my top 10 list of best descriptions of Cindy!
    Spot on Krystal! ::rhino::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 06:32:12 AM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Casey Anthony Jail Letter Released
    04/07/2010


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 06:33:35 AM
    http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
    Discussion on the Jailhouse Letters
    Posted on April 6th, 2010 by Valhall


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 06:38:35 AM
    Nancy Grace 04/06/2010
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947

    Nancy Grace Transcripts 04/06/2010
    http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/06/ng.01.html





    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 07:16:21 AM
    http://www.wesh.com/news/23064066/detail.html
    Casey Anthony Jailhouse Letters Released
    Anthony Claims Sexual Abuse By Brother, Possibly Father

    POSTED: 5:57 am EDT April 6, 2010
    UPDATED: 7:01 am EDT April 7, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. --
    Prosecutors in the case against Casey Anthony released more documents in the investigation on Tuesday.

    The documents released included an investigative summary of interviews with Robyn Adams, with whom Anthony had conversations and exchanged letters.

    Investigators wrote that Adams discussed the topic of Zenaida Gonzalez with Anthony. Anthony has told authorities Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee.

    In conversations with investigators, Adams claimed Anthony made two references to Gonzalez. The first indicated "there was no Zenaida" and "Zenaida didn't do this." The second reference claimed Gonzalez was a childhood friend.
    Investigators said Adams also told them that Anthony would give Caylee "stuff" to make her sleep.

    Anthony and Adams discussed chloroform, and Anthony told Adams she would give the toddler "antihistamines or something" because she had difficulties getting her to take naps.

    Letters Show Anthony's Personal Battles
    In the letters, Anthony wrote about the search for her daughter, Caylee Anthony, as well as personal battles.

    Anthony said she asked Zenaida Gonzalez to watch Caylee so she could prepare to move away with her daughter.

    "Unfortunately, my plans got beyond tangled when Zany wouldn't tell me where she and Caylee were. I had asked her to take Cays for a few days, so I could put the rest of our stuff together, money I had saved, new clothes, new everything," Anthony wrote. "That's why I waited to report her missing, because she was and wasn't."

    Anthony also stated in the letters that she's an emotional wreck and said she was sexually abused.
    "I woke up night after night with my sports bra lifted over my chest or if I had a regular bra, it would be unhooked," Anthony wrote.

    Anthony claimed her brother would walk into her room at night and feel her breasts.

    "This went on for over three years before I finally stood up to Lee and told him if he ever came in my room again, I'd kill him," Anthony wrote.

    Anthony said she informed her mother about the incidents, but that Cindy Anthony turned on her.

    "When I told my mom about it two years ago, she made excuses, saying that he was sleepwalking. Not only did she say I was lying, but when I explained everything, her reaction was literally like a knife in my chest: 'So that's why you're a whore?'" Anthony wrote.

    Anthony also claimed she thought her father, George Anthony, did the same things to her when she was much younger. She claimed she sought help from a doctor on her own when she was 18.

    Anthony said she has since forgiven her brother.

    "That's why we're more friends than brother and sister," Anthony wrote. "But even with openly forgiving him, part of that pain will always live in me."
    Brad Conway, the attorney for the Anthony family, said, "The Anthony family denies that there was any improper sexual behavior in their family."

    Anthony Writes Of Her Love For Caylee
    Anthony said she loved her daughter and believed she was a good mother in search of some freedom.

    "I don't know one single mom who doesn't try to get their freedom regardless of how old they are. That's one of the biggest things that truly cuts me when I hear them talk about me as a mother. I was a great mom. And I love my daughter with everything that I have. I would give my life to have her back even for five minutes," Anthony wrote.

    The 24-year-old passed along letters to fellow inmate Robyn Adams, who Anthony's defense team called a jailhouse snitch.

    Anthony indicated her desire to buy a recreational vehicle and take trips with Adams after they're released from jail.

    "As far as my plans for when I leave, besides trying to entertain your behind until I drag you out of wherever, I'm not sure. I'll start getting things together for our RV trips and such," Anthony wrote.

    The letters also indicated Anthony suffered a miscarriage in 2007 and desires to adopt a child.
    So many kids and teens are homeless, and that's something I want to target, and ... missing children as well. That sits close to my heart, and I wish there was something we could do to prevent it," Anthony wrote.

    Anthony wrote that she continues to talk to Caylee, who she refers to in the letters as Cays, every day.

    "When I tell Cays how much I love her, I've always ended it with 'forever and always.' I still do to this day. I talk to her throughout the day, as I do daddy, and it brings a sense of peace to my heart," Anthony wrote. "Thinking about it brings tears to my eyes and a smile to my face. I'm an emotional wreck."

    Anthony was able to exchange around 50 letters with Adams.

    The letters offer a first glimpse into Anthony's life in jail. She is being held at the Orange County Jail on no bond, charged with murder in the death of Caylee. Caylee's remains were found in a wooded area off Suburban Drive near the Anthony family home in December 2008.

    According to court papers, there are 258 pages believed to be handwritten by Anthony.

    "The amount of notes isn't very shocking," Hornsby said.
    A jailhouse investigation revealed a correctional officer delivered the letters between the two women from their cell.

    Jose Baez, Anthony's lead attorney, did not object to the release of the letters because he said there was nothing incriminating in them.

    On Tuesday night, Liz Brown, of the DePaul Center for Justice in Capital Cases, released the following statement as the defense response to Anthony's letters:

    "The letters released today reflect the natural desire for companionship when isolated for 23 hours a day, and clearly demonstrate Casey's unconditional love for her daughter, Caylee. Despite these intentions, it is obvious in the letters authored by Robyn Adams that her sole purpose and only goal in corresponding with Casey Anthony was to create 'leverage to get out of prison early.' Furthermore, despite numerous inaccurate media reports, the letters written by Casey Anthony do not contain a single reference to chloroform or any admissions of guilt. Casey Anthony maintains her innocence and looks forward to her day in court."

    Prosecutors most likely will use these letters against Anthony in her murder case.

    Anthony Letters: Part 1  http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069066.pdf
                          Part 2   http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf
    Video  Casey Anthony Letters:  http://www.wesh.com/video/23064555/index.html
    Interactive:  Where Is Caylee  http://www.wesh.com/news/22987477/detail.html


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 07:19:56 AM
    http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23064461/detail.html
    Inmate: Casey Used Chloroform To Get Caylee To Sleep
    Defense Opts Not To Fight Release

    POSTED: Tuesday, April 6, 2010
    UPDATED: 6:56 am EDT April 7, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. -- Pen pal letters between Casey Anthony and another inmate at the Orange County Jail were released Tuesday.

    The documents contain information that passed from Casey Anthony to a friend, Robyn Adams, and could provide crucial help to the prosecutors' theories on how she may have killed Caylee.
    The state attorney's office released more than 500 pages of letters between Anthony and Adams, who is also an inmate. They also released a report from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement about interviews with Adams about the pair's relationship.

    Adams told agents about how they began communicating, and details about what the pair discussed.

    "Anthony would give Caylee 'stuff' to make her sleep," the FDLE report said.

    According to the report, Anthony and Adams discussed chloroform and Anthony said she had given Caylee "antihistamines or something" to make her sleep.

    Adams told investigators Anthony confessed to using chloroform to put Caylee to sleep, and also implied that Cindy Anthony may have provided.

    The report states that Caylee had a hard time taking naps because she was afraid of "missing out on something."

    "Casey used the phrase 'knock her out' in reference to medicating Caylee to help her sleep," the report said. "Anthony would always like to have her days free."

    Maya Derkovic, another inmate serving a 30-year sentence for murder and carjacking, told investigators Anthony also told her stories about trying to put Caylee to sleep.

    Derkovic claimed she spoke with Casey Anthony in the Orange County Jail through their cell's ventilation system during the summer of 2008, and told investigators Anthony admitted to "knocking out" Caylee many times so she could party.
    Derkovic said she tried to convince Anthony to tell police the truth, but said Anthony told her she was more worried about what people would think of her than of doing time.
    <snipped>


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 07:24:50 AM
    Justice for Caylee   ::MonkeyAngel::
    (http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/caylee/smallpic.jpg)


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 07, 2010, 08:27:46 AM
    I stopped reading after page 5 - why I don't know. For whatever reason I don't know.
    I can't wrap my brain around it.
    I can't go there. Me of all Monkeys. I just cant. I feel it in my bones and Its much more than words written - and I don't know if I want to read past page 5.
    It all makes me sick to my stomach.


    It is sickening--I agree.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 07, 2010, 08:40:25 AM
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069761/detail.html

    bottom of page 12....BAD BOY George

    Asks River if she can give him $20,000 (she didn't)



    I found it interesting that she told the guard at the front gate of her residence not to let George in to visit her anymore. That must have been a real shocker to that ego manic. LOL


     ::MonkeyHaHa::   I love it.  George is a rat.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 08:40:58 AM
    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-letters-20100406,0,5704019.story
    Inmate: Casey Anthony talks about drugs to ‘knock’ out Caylee in jailhouse letters
    Prosecutors released Casey Anthony jailhouse letters Tuesday.

    By Sarah Lundy and Amy L. Edwards, Orlando Sentinel
    7:26 a.m. EDT, April 7, 2010
    Did Casey Anthony tell a jailhouse friend a detail only her daughter's killer would know?

    Not long after remains of 2-year-old Caylee were found in December 2008, Anthony told fellow inmate Robyn Adams that investigators found the bones in a black garbage bag with a baby blanket.

    That last detail — the baby blanket — wasn't public knowledge at the time.

    "Casey Anthony had knowledge of items only the suspect, certain law enforcement personnel and the certain medical examiner's personnel knew," an Orange County sheriff's detective wrote in a report that was among more than 500 pages released Tuesday.

    Among the documents were copies of dozens of jailhouse letters Anthony wrote Adams while the two were incarcerated in the Orange County Jail.

    They provide the first public insight into what Anthony has been doing, who she has been talking to and her state of mind in the months since her arrest in 2008.

    She addressed Adams as "Cookie" and signed off with a nickname, "Muffin." Her choice of topics, written in a tall, up-and-down script, range from the lighthearted to the serious:

    •Planning an RV trip with Adams.
    •Complaining about her mother not showing up to see her in court.

    •Accusations of sexual abuse.

    •Her faith in God.

    •Her desire to brush up on her Spanish.

    •The struggles of being a single mother living at home with her parents.

    A recurring issue for Anthony was her assertion that she has been misrepresented and misunderstood.

    "That's one of the biggest things that truly cuts me when I hear them talk about me as a mother — I was a great mom! And I love my daughter with everything that I have. I would give my life to have her back even for 5 minutes. It's so frustrating," she wrote in one undated letter.

    The State Attorney's Office released the material as part of the first-degree murder case against Anthony, 24, who is accused of killing Caylee. The toddler's remains were found near her family's home, five months after she was reported missing.

    Anthony told Adams, a drug dealer who is has now serving time in federal prison, that she used to give Caylee something to help her sleep so Anthony could go out at night, according to investigators' interview with Adams.

    In a transcript released, an investigator asked Adams whether Anthony admitted using chloroform on her daughter. Lab tests turned up chloroform in the trunk of a car Anthony used.
    Adams talked about Anthony using cold medications and antihistamines, but said the young mother was not specific about what she used to "knock her out."

    But the summary of the interview written by Detective Yuri Melich reported something different.
    "Casey Anthony told her (Robyn Adams) Caylee Anthony had trouble sleeping and she had to use chloroform to put her to sleep," Melich wrote in his investigative summary.
    Prosecutors typically rely on sworn testimony — not detective summaries. But the discrepancy could open the door for defense attorneys to attack Melich's credibility.

    The Sheriff's Office did not respond to a Tuesday evening phone call seeking more information on the discrepancy.

    Anthony's defense team had a chance to review the letters before they were made public. Her lead attorney, Jose Baez, did not object to the release.

    "The letters released today reflect the natural desire for companionship when isolated for 23 hours a day, and clearly demonstrate Casey's unconditional love for her daughter Caylee," according a release statement by the defense team. "Despite these intentions, it is obvious in the letters authored by Robyn Adams that her sole purpose and only goal in corresponding with Casey Anthony was to create ‘leverage to get out of prison early.'"

    Anthony is being held at the jail under a protective-custody status, which prohibits her from directly communicating with other inmates.

    In a letter addressed to "B.F.F.," Adams told the friend in detail how she and Anthony were able to communicate.

    "So here's the scoop. I've been allowed to secretly come out really late at night to have one-on-one talks with Casey Anthony, around 3:00 a.m. when everyone else is sleeping," Adams writes. "Officer [Silvia] Hernandez is the only one that will let us talk, she says that Casey will open up to me about her case eventually, I really believe that too."
    The letter continues, "I only get to see her when I come down the stairs at night. We pass notes through a book and leave it on the bookshelf sort of hidden behind the bigger books, that's how we make our conversations."

    Since discovery of the jailhouse letters, Corrections Officer Sylvia Hernandez was suspended with pay, although a jail spokesman declined to give the reason for the action.

    Adams told investigators she and Anthony agreed to flush each other's letters, but Adams instead kept the notes and mailed them to a friend in Altamonte Springs.

    Other details in Anthony's letters included:

    •Her crush on one of the attorneys in Baez's law firm.

    "Baez=my other papa/super close friend; Jose G. = my school girl crush," she wrote, referring to attorney Jose Garcia.

    •Her sometimes difficult relationship with her parents, George and Cindy Anthony.

    "They show their ‘support' for the sake of the cameras, but when it comes to the ‘real story' I'm alone. . . I have a non-existent relationship with two of the most important people in the world to me, and it's to the point where I don't even want to bother."

    Anthony's case is set for trial next year.

    Willoughby Mariano, Walter Pacheco and Bianca Prieto of the Sentinel staff contributed to this report.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 08:50:16 AM
    The nutty defense, dimished capacity doesn't work for the not guilty, someone else did it.
    Anything she reportedly said, not wrote isn't going to be allowed as the purpose for Robin was to help her own case.
    ....
    Why didn't Bozo get her some mental health help in there instead of almost leading her on with chance he could get her off ? 
    ..
    Another thought, didn't she frist see the news about the remains before she saw the chaplin ? Didn't they have her in front of the TV ?
    ..
    She is one sick puppy and so are Cindy, George and Lee.

    No, she did not see coverage of the remains being discovered.    She saw coverage of the search at Jay Blanchard Park in November but not any news Dec 11th.   

    ...yes, she did. She was taken to the medical area. In fact, her reaction was videotaped and a hearing was held so as not to release the video to the public.  She watched the fiasco at JBP and had no reaction.

    Good Morning Monks!!  I have eye drops and nausea meds for those that need them! ::MonkeyTongue::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 08:51:40 AM
    Am taking a break from reading the letters cuz my eyes are crossing.  lol 

    Am catching up in here, still back on page 43 tho.  Just wanted to say that the defense may feel this stuff is worthless, whatever.. but there are pages missing. 

    Am carefully clicking on page after page reading along, watching the page count.  One letter ends with Casey signing off, the next page begins in the middle of a sentence.  This has happened a couple of times. 

    Next time it happens, I'll jot the page #'s down.  Pages are in sequence and haven't skipped numbers yet, but actual pages in the letters are missing.  If that makes sense. 

    Guess what I'm trying to say is that defense is feeling that what they've *released* is worthless.   I'd like to read those skipped pages and see what it is they don't want us to read.  heh. 

    thanks Wyks....I'll be sure and watch for those breaks as I begin reading again.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 08:52:34 AM
    The nutty defense, dimished capacity doesn't work for the not guilty, someone else did it.
    Anything she reportedly said, not wrote isn't going to be allowed as the purpose for Robin was to help her own case.
    ....
    Why didn't Bozo get her some mental health help in there instead of almost leading her on with chance he could get her off ? 
    ..
    Another thought, didn't she frist see the news about the remains before she saw the chaplin ? Didn't they have her in front of the TV ?
    ..
    She is one sick puppy and so are Cindy, George and Lee.

    No, she did not see coverage of the remains being discovered.    She saw coverage of the search at Jay Blanchard Park in November but not any news Dec 11th.   



    KC did see the breaking news of the discovery of a body that turned out to be Caylee. She saw it when she was brought to the infirmary. She had some kind of melt down and asked for medication. Baez won't let the tape of the episode be released to the public.


    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6629027/Casey-Anthony-Tammy-Uncer-transcript-1-june-2009

    thanks N2..... ::rhino:: ::rhino::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 07, 2010, 08:56:57 AM
    The nutty defense, dimished capacity doesn't work for the not guilty, someone else did it.
    Anything she reportedly said, not wrote isn't going to be allowed as the purpose for Robin was to help her own case.
    ....
    Why didn't Bozo get her some mental health help in there instead of almost leading her on with chance he could get her off ? 
    ..
    Another thought, didn't she frist see the news about the remains before she saw the chaplin ? Didn't they have her in front of the TV ?
    ..
    She is one sick puppy and so are Cindy, George and Lee.

    No, she did not see coverage of the remains being discovered.    She saw coverage of the search at Jay Blanchard Park in November but not any news Dec 11th.   

    ...yes, she did. She was taken to the medical area. In fact, her reaction was videotaped and a hearing was held so as not to release the video to the public.  She watched the fiasco at JBP and had no reaction.

    Good Morning Monks!!  I have eye drops and nausea meds for those that need them! ::MonkeyTongue::

     ::MonkeyJnBox::     My eyes keep asking: "Why us?" lol


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Tevye on April 07, 2010, 09:02:56 AM
    The nutty defense, dimished capacity doesn't work for the not guilty, someone else did it.
    Anything she reportedly said, not wrote isn't going to be allowed as the purpose for Robin was to help her own case.
    ....
    Why didn't Bozo get her some mental health help in there instead of almost leading her on with chance he could get her off ? 
    ..
    Another thought, didn't she frist see the news about the remains before she saw the chaplin ? Didn't they have her in front of the TV ?
    ..
    She is one sick puppy and so are Cindy, George and Lee.

    No, she did not see coverage of the remains being discovered.    She saw coverage of the search at Jay Blanchard Park in November but not any news Dec 11th.   

    ...yes, she did. She was taken to the medical area. In fact, her reaction was videotaped and a hearing was held so as not to release the video to the public.  She watched the fiasco at JBP and had no reaction.

    Good Morning Monks!!  I have eye drops and nausea meds for those that need them! ::MonkeyTongue::

     ::MonkeyJnBox::     My eyes keep asking: "Why us?" lol
    Are your eyes feeling like they've been Tonya Harding-d? Mine do!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 09:23:27 AM
    The nutty defense, dimished capacity doesn't work for the not guilty, someone else did it.
    Anything she reportedly said, not wrote isn't going to be allowed as the purpose for Robin was to help her own case.
    ....
    Why didn't Bozo get her some mental health help in there instead of almost leading her on with chance he could get her off ? 
    ..
    Another thought, didn't she frist see the news about the remains before she saw the chaplin ? Didn't they have her in front of the TV ?
    ..
    She is one sick puppy and so are Cindy, George and Lee.

    No, she did not see coverage of the remains being discovered.    She saw coverage of the search at Jay Blanchard Park in November but not any news Dec 11th.   

    ...yes, she did. She was taken to the medical area. In fact, her reaction was videotaped and a hearing was held so as not to release the video to the public.  She watched the fiasco at JBP and had no reaction.

    Good Morning Monks!!  I have eye drops and nausea meds for those that need them! ::MonkeyTongue::

     ::MonkeyJnBox::     My eyes keep asking: "Why us?" lol

     ::MonkeyJnBox::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 09:27:00 AM
    The nutty defense, dimished capacity doesn't work for the not guilty, someone else did it.
    Anything she reportedly said, not wrote isn't going to be allowed as the purpose for Robin was to help her own case.
    ....
    Why didn't Bozo get her some mental health help in there instead of almost leading her on with chance he could get her off ? 
    ..
    Another thought, didn't she frist see the news about the remains before she saw the chaplin ? Didn't they have her in front of the TV ?
    ..
    She is one sick puppy and so are Cindy, George and Lee.

    No, she did not see coverage of the remains being discovered.    She saw coverage of the search at Jay Blanchard Park in November but not any news Dec 11th.   

    ...yes, she did. She was taken to the medical area. In fact, her reaction was videotaped and a hearing was held so as not to release the video to the public.  She watched the fiasco at JBP and had no reaction.

    Good Morning Monks!!  I have eye drops and nausea meds for those that need them! ::MonkeyTongue::

    Sunny   If you scrolled down the page you would have seen that I clarified when she did see coverage & said precisely what you had to bold that she did see coverage after she was in the med unit & that even then what she did see would not have given her information about what was recovered with the remains.    The discussion was if she had seen coverage that included details of items found at the scene prior to her talking to other inmates & the answer to that is no.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 09:32:05 AM
    http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

    pages 226, 227

    KC and inmate spent entire nights together in the same cell


    I'm not done with the supplemental yet, but how in the heck is this allowed in a jail? Does bs like this go on very often? ::MonkeyShocked::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 09:35:40 AM
    The nutty defense, dimished capacity doesn't work for the not guilty, someone else did it.
    Anything she reportedly said, not wrote isn't going to be allowed as the purpose for Robin was to help her own case.
    ....
    Why didn't Bozo get her some mental health help in there instead of almost leading her on with chance he could get her off ? 
    ..
    Another thought, didn't she frist see the news about the remains before she saw the chaplin ? Didn't they have her in front of the TV ?
    ..
    She is one sick puppy and so are Cindy, George and Lee.

    No, she did not see coverage of the remains being discovered.    She saw coverage of the search at Jay Blanchard Park in November but not any news Dec 11th.   

    ...yes, she did. She was taken to the medical area. In fact, her reaction was videotaped and a hearing was held so as not to release the video to the public.  She watched the fiasco at JBP and had no reaction.

    Good Morning Monks!!  I have eye drops and nausea meds for those that need them! ::MonkeyTongue::
    ::MonkeyCool:: I'm going to finish the supplemental soon, I'm towards the end of River's interview. I'm still not getting that monkey story, how weird and bizarre that was just thrown in there  ::MonkeyShocked::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 09:43:22 AM
    Norose, it does appear that she added those monkey references as one of two things 1) to appear off her rocker (by design) 2) a hidden message of what she did OR third maybe the monster actually read SM when she was out on bail and it was a dig at what she was reading....who knows, the girl is just pure evil.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 09:45:18 AM
    The nutty defense, dimished capacity doesn't work for the not guilty, someone else did it.
    Anything she reportedly said, not wrote isn't going to be allowed as the purpose for Robin was to help her own case.
    ....
    Why didn't Bozo get her some mental health help in there instead of almost leading her on with chance he could get her off ? 
    ..
    Another thought, didn't she frist see the news about the remains before she saw the chaplin ? Didn't they have her in front of the TV ?
    ..
    She is one sick puppy and so are Cindy, George and Lee.

    No, she did not see coverage of the remains being discovered.    She saw coverage of the search at Jay Blanchard Park in November but not any news Dec 11th.   

    ...yes, she did. She was taken to the medical area. In fact, her reaction was videotaped and a hearing was held so as not to release the video to the public.  She watched the fiasco at JBP and had no reaction.

    Good Morning Monks!!  I have eye drops and nausea meds for those that need them! ::MonkeyTongue::

     ::MonkeyJnBox::     My eyes keep asking: "Why us?" lol

    Ono!   ::MonkeyDevil::  my eyes were bloodshot last night.......I really can't believe the DUHfence didn't at least TRY to keep these from getting out.....BOZO keeps screaming 'they are trying to kill her', when, in fact, he just supplied some rusty nails for her coffin!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 09:46:18 AM


    ...yes, she did. She was taken to the medical area. In fact, her reaction was videotaped and a hearing was held so as not to release the video to the public.  She watched the fiasco at JBP and had no reaction.

    Good Morning Monks!!  I have eye drops and nausea meds for those that need them! ::MonkeyTongue::

     ::MonkeyJnBox::     My eyes keep asking: "Why us?" lol
    Are your eyes feeling like they've been Tonya Harding-d? Mine do!

     ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 09:47:57 AM
    I don't know but it sure seemed bizarre to throw that monkey story in there, I guess I'm going to have another look at that, even though it will probably make me sick for the day  ::MonkeyShocked::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 09:49:42 AM
    http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

    pages 226, 227

    KC and inmate spent entire nights together in the same cell


    I'm not done with the supplemental yet, but how in the heck is this allowed in a jail? Does bs like this go on very often? ::MonkeyShocked::

    Good Morning nrcg............I have no answer to your question.....but I thought the jails also had video tape surveillance???   Especially in this special area.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 09:50:32 AM
    The nutty defense, dimished capacity doesn't work for the not guilty, someone else did it.
    Anything she reportedly said, not wrote isn't going to be allowed as the purpose for Robin was to help her own case.
    ....
    Why didn't Bozo get her some mental health help in there instead of almost leading her on with chance he could get her off ? 
    ..
    Another thought, didn't she frist see the news about the remains before she saw the chaplin ? Didn't they have her in front of the TV ?
    ..
    She is one sick puppy and so are Cindy, George and Lee.

    No, she did not see coverage of the remains being discovered.    She saw coverage of the search at Jay Blanchard Park in November but not any news Dec 11th.   

    ...yes, she did. She was taken to the medical area. In fact, her reaction was videotaped and a hearing was held so as not to release the video to the public.  She watched the fiasco at JBP and had no reaction.

    Good Morning Monks!!  I have eye drops and nausea meds for those that need them! ::MonkeyTongue::
    ::MonkeyCool:: I'm going to finish the supplemental soon, I'm towards the end of River's interview. I'm still not getting that monkey story, how weird and bizarre that was just thrown in there  ::MonkeyShocked::

    really odd and chilling.................. ::rhino::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Western Observr on April 07, 2010, 09:51:09 AM
    I was just thinking about Sgt Allen and Yuri Melich.  They must have been dancing and high fiving when these letters came to light, it opened up a whole new aspect of the investigation.
    Their doggedness has to be admired, justice for Caylee will come due to their efforts over the last 2 years. 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 09:52:18 AM
    The nutty defense, dimished capacity doesn't work for the not guilty, someone else did it.
    Anything she reportedly said, not wrote isn't going to be allowed as the purpose for Robin was to help her own case.
    ....
    Why didn't Bozo get her some mental health help in there instead of almost leading her on with chance he could get her off ? 
    ..
    Another thought, didn't she frist see the news about the remains before she saw the chaplin ? Didn't they have her in front of the TV ?
    ..
    She is one sick puppy and so are Cindy, George and Lee.

    No, she did not see coverage of the remains being discovered.    She saw coverage of the search at Jay Blanchard Park in November but not any news Dec 11th.   

    ...yes, she did. She was taken to the medical area. In fact, her reaction was videotaped and a hearing was held so as not to release the video to the public.  She watched the fiasco at JBP and had no reaction.

    Good Morning Monks!!  I have eye drops and nausea meds for those that need them! ::MonkeyTongue::

    Sunny...I'll take some of those eye drops and a double dose of nausea meds....I stayed up all night reading...only good part is that I got it all read.   ::MonkeyCool::



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 09:53:50 AM
    The nutty defense, dimished capacity doesn't work for the not guilty, someone else did it.
    Anything she reportedly said, not wrote isn't going to be allowed as the purpose for Robin was to help her own case.
    ....
    Why didn't Bozo get her some mental health help in there instead of almost leading her on with chance he could get her off ? 
    ..
    Another thought, didn't she frist see the news about the remains before she saw the chaplin ? Didn't they have her in front of the TV ?
    ..
    She is one sick puppy and so are Cindy, George and Lee.

    No, she did not see coverage of the remains being discovered.    She saw coverage of the search at Jay Blanchard Park in November but not any news Dec 11th.   

    ...yes, she did. She was taken to the medical area. In fact, her reaction was videotaped and a hearing was held so as not to release the video to the public.  She watched the fiasco at JBP and had no reaction.

    Good Morning Monks!!  I have eye drops and nausea meds for those that need them! ::MonkeyTongue::
    ::MonkeyCool:: I'm going to finish the supplemental soon, I'm towards the end of River's interview. I'm still not getting that monkey story, how weird and bizarre that was just thrown in there  ::MonkeyShocked::

    really odd and chilling.................. ::rhino::

    Monkey story was totally bizarre...reminded me of the freezer in the A's garage and the many times (back then) that I said LE needs to check out that freezer.



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: monkalicious on April 07, 2010, 09:55:13 AM
    Good morning, Monkeys!  I'm reading Krystal/River's interview transcript and one thing hit me...She has seizures, she mentions it quite often.  Casey talks about having seizures in her sleep, I wonder if when Skye was in jail with Casey, she mentioned that her sister had seizures?  One more example of Casey taking on someone else's persona to gain sympathy?
    She's one Twisted Sister, that's for sure...
    ::MonkeySlide::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 09:56:18 AM
    The nutty defense, dimished capacity doesn't work for the not guilty, someone else did it.
    Anything she reportedly said, not wrote isn't going to be allowed as the purpose for Robin was to help her own case.
    ....
    Why didn't Bozo get her some mental health help in there instead of almost leading her on with chance he could get her off ? 
    ..
    Another thought, didn't she frist see the news about the remains before she saw the chaplin ? Didn't they have her in front of the TV ?
    ..
    She is one sick puppy and so are Cindy, George and Lee.

    No, she did not see coverage of the remains being discovered.    She saw coverage of the search at Jay Blanchard Park in November but not any news Dec 11th.   

    ...yes, she did. She was taken to the medical area. In fact, her reaction was videotaped and a hearing was held so as not to release the video to the public.  She watched the fiasco at JBP and had no reaction.

    Good Morning Monks!!  I have eye drops and nausea meds for those that need them! ::MonkeyTongue::

     ::MonkeyJnBox::     My eyes keep asking: "Why us?" lol

    Ono!   ::MonkeyDevil::  my eyes were bloodshot last night.......I really can't believe the DUHfence didn't at least TRY to keep these from getting out.....BOZO keeps screaming 'they are trying to kill her', when, in fact, he just supplied some rusty nails for her coffin!!

    Baez better watch out...we all know that if people hear something enough times, the it tends to become thought of as fact...well he may be trying to taint the jury, but he may get what he wished for and the taint would be that she is to be killed.   ::MonkeyTongue::



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 09:56:27 AM
    I was just thinking about Sgt Allen and Yuri Melich.  They must have been dancing and high fiving when these letters came to light, it opened up a whole new aspect of the investigation.
    Their doggedness has to be admired, justice for Caylee will come due to their efforts over the last 2 years. 

    Morning WO....agree....they have really been crusaders for Caylee.

    I am going to go back and get caught up on last nights post....I see some very interesting comments.

    Since the DUHfense had these letters for over 15 days, I guess I can assume the A's via Brad have seen at least part of them if not all of them..............no wonder they have been so darn quiet............personally I would have been too darned embarrassed to show my face in court.............but then again we know the A's, they have no shame and never miss a chance to be on the telly!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 09:59:34 AM
    Am taking a break from reading the letters cuz my eyes are crossing.  lol 

    Am catching up in here, still back on page 43 tho.  Just wanted to say that the defense may feel this stuff is worthless, whatever.. but there are pages missing. 

    Am carefully clicking on page after page reading along, watching the page count.  One letter ends with Casey signing off, the next page begins in the middle of a sentence.  This has happened a couple of times. 

    Next time it happens, I'll jot the page #'s down.  Pages are in sequence and haven't skipped numbers yet, but actual pages in the letters are missing.  If that makes sense. 

    Guess what I'm trying to say is that defense is feeling that what they've *released* is worthless.   I'd like to read those skipped pages and see what it is they don't want us to read.  heh. 

    thanks Wyks....I'll be sure and watch for those breaks as I begin reading again.

    I, too, noticed that there were several places where it was obvious that pages were missing...several places.



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 09:59:53 AM

    ...yes, she did. She was taken to the medical area. In fact, her reaction was videotaped and a hearing was held so as not to release the video to the public.  She watched the fiasco at JBP and had no reaction.

    Good Morning Monks!!  I have eye drops and nausea meds for those that need them! ::MonkeyTongue::

    Sunny...I'll take some of those eye drops and a double dose of nausea meds....I stayed up all night reading...only good part is that I got it all read.   ::MonkeyCool::

    WOW, Puzzler, you need a medal for that effort!! I appreciated reading your posts and that you noted page and line where you were quoting from......

    I gave up on pg 104 of the first pdf and thats' where I will pick up later on today.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 10:00:01 AM
    http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

    pages 226, 227

    KC and inmate spent entire nights together in the same cell


    I'm not done with the supplemental yet, but how in the heck is this allowed in a jail? Does bs like this go on very often? ::MonkeyShocked::

    Good Morning nrcg............I have no answer to your question.....but I thought the jails also had video tape surveillance???   Especially in this special area.
    Good morning, I would have no idea either  ::MonkeyShocked::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 10:02:13 AM
    I was just thinking about Sgt Allen and Yuri Melich.  They must have been dancing and high fiving when these letters came to light, it opened up a whole new aspect of the investigation.
    Their doggedness has to be admired, justice for Caylee will come due to their efforts over the last 2 years. 

    Morning WO....agree....they have really been crusaders for Caylee.

    I am going to go back and get caught up on last nights post....I see some very interesting comments.

    Since the DUHfense had these letters for over 15 days, I guess I can assume the A's via Brad have seen at least part of them if not all of them..............no wonder they have been so darn quiet............personally I would have been too darned embarrassed to show my face in court.............but then again we know the A's, they have no shame and never miss a chance to be on the telly!!

    I believe the reason for the sour, angry looks on G&C's faces in court Monday was because of their knowledge of what's in these letters and that they knew it was coming out soon.  Probably would have shot KC down with those looks...but, of course, KC wouldn't even glance their way.  On the other hand, KC was probably thrilled at knowing that the A's were going to get some more attention...just not the kind of attention they would want to get.



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 10:02:19 AM
    I was just thinking about Sgt Allen and Yuri Melich.  They must have been dancing and high fiving when these letters came to light, it opened up a whole new aspect of the investigation.
    Their doggedness has to be admired, justice for Caylee will come due to their efforts over the last 2 years. 
    It does, and I'll bet they are praying they never see anything like this again, and the chances of them dealing with a family of this kind I hope is very low  ::MonkeyShocked::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Tevye on April 07, 2010, 10:02:26 AM
    http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf

    pages 226, 227

    KC and inmate spent entire nights together in the same cell


    I'm not done with the supplemental yet, but how in the heck is this allowed in a jail? Does bs like this go on very often? ::MonkeyShocked::
    I will ask when I go there tomorrow (not to Crzy's jail, to mine!)


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 10:02:29 AM
    ::MonkeyCool:: I'm going to finish the supplemental soon, I'm towards the end of River's interview. I'm still not getting that monkey story, how weird and bizarre that was just thrown in there  ::MonkeyShocked::

    really odd and chilling.................. ::rhino::

    Monkey story was totally bizarre...reminded me of the freezer in the A's garage and the many times (back then) that I said LE needs to check out that freezer.

    Puzzler, I remember you saying that often....gotta admit, I thought no way.....now I am not so sure!!! ::MonkeyKiss::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 10:04:26 AM

    ...yes, she did. She was taken to the medical area. In fact, her reaction was videotaped and a hearing was held so as not to release the video to the public.  She watched the fiasco at JBP and had no reaction.

    Good Morning Monks!!  I have eye drops and nausea meds for those that need them! ::MonkeyTongue::

    Sunny...I'll take some of those eye drops and a double dose of nausea meds....I stayed up all night reading...only good part is that I got it all read.   ::MonkeyCool::

    WOW, Puzzler, you need a medal for that effort!! I appreciated reading your posts and that you noted page and line where you were quoting from......

    I gave up on pg 104 of the first pdf and thats' where I will pick up later on today.

    The best portion was reading Krystal/River's part.  George was pulling the wool over her eyes, but once she caught on to him...she gave it right back to him.

    He actually asked her to give him $20,000!!!



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 10:04:27 AM
    One thing that stood out in River's interview, is she hearing George screaming at Cindy about not getting the money first before an interview  ::MonkeyEek:: he was on the phone with Cindy.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 10:04:31 AM
    Good morning, Monkeys!  I'm reading Krystal/River's interview transcript and one thing hit me...She has seizures, she mentions it quite often.  Casey talks about having seizures in her sleep, I wonder if when Skye was in jail with Casey, she mentioned that her sister had seizures?  One more example of Casey taking on someone else's persona to gain sympathy?
    She's one Twisted Sister, that's for sure...
    ::MonkeySlide::

    Morning Monka!  could be...........kc is a chameleon. IIRC didn't Jesse say she did have a seizure once and he took her to the hospital?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 10:06:49 AM
    Here is  this morning's segment of The Today Show coverage of the release of the letters

    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/36213074#36213074


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 10:09:09 AM
    One thing that stood out in River's interview, is she hearing George screaming at Cindy about not getting the money first before an interview  ::MonkeyEek:: he was on the phone with Cindy.

    And...that he hung up on Cindy!!! (He's brave on the phone while she's out of town and can't get to him).   ::MonkeyTongue::



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 10:10:21 AM
    One thing that stood out in River's interview, is she hearing George screaming at Cindy about not getting the money first before an interview  ::MonkeyEek:: he was on the phone with Cindy.

    And...that he hung up on Cindy!!! (He's brave on the phone while she's out of town and can't get to him).   ::MonkeyTongue::



     ::MonkeyDevil::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 10:11:34 AM
    One thing that stood out in River's interview, is she hearing George screaming at Cindy about not getting the money first before an interview  ::MonkeyEek:: he was on the phone with Cindy.

    And...that he hung up on Cindy!!! (He's brave on the phone while she's out of town and can't get to him).   ::MonkeyTongue::


    ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: He sure is. I guess that I also am going to have to think that maybe the freezer was used, I really didn't think so, but you know she just may have put Caylee in there  ::MonkeyShocked::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 10:12:25 AM
    One thing that stood out in River's interview, is she hearing George screaming at Cindy about not getting the money first before an interview  ::MonkeyEek:: he was on the phone with Cindy.

    And...that he hung up on Cindy!!! (He's brave on the phone while she's out of town and can't get to him).   ::MonkeyTongue::



     ::MonkeyDevil::

    Show me the blood money, ugh this is so beyond sorted its no wonder how we are not all suffering from ulcers by now.   These people!  Absolutely revolting


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: cookie on April 07, 2010, 10:13:34 AM
    my eyes are still hurting from all the strain of reading those letters last night...I am going to attempt to continue reading them today/tonight.....I am gobsmacked over all of this...how Baez is so stupid as to think that these letters would not be harmful...


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: cookie on April 07, 2010, 10:17:16 AM
    One thing that stood out in River's interview, is she hearing George screaming at Cindy about not getting the money first before an interview  ::MonkeyEek:: he was on the phone with Cindy.

    And...that he hung up on Cindy!!! (He's brave on the phone while she's out of town and can't get to him).   ::MonkeyTongue::


    ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: He sure is. I guess that I also am going to have to think that maybe the freezer was used, I really didn't think so, but you know she just may have put Caylee in there  ::MonkeyShocked::

    had not heard or considered a freezer before ....but...she could have put her in there to stop the decomp and someone ELSE did indeed put Caylee out in the woods after Casey was arrested/in jail..someone like George, Lee or Cindy??? that is just grotesque to even think about...but wouldn't freezers and the like have been searched early on when Caylee was reported missing??? unless they moved her before they Cindy called the police that first night after confronting Casey?? Casey was talking with Lee in the bedroom, had confessed that Caylee was missing...Cindy was on the phone with the police after that, Lee took Caylee to the woods to leave her body?? I am sick right now thinking of it...


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 10:20:04 AM
    my eyes are still hurting from all the strain of reading those letters last night...I am going to attempt to continue reading them today/tonight.....I am gobsmacked over all of this...how Baez is so stupid as to think that these letters would not be harmful...


    He is an idiot.
    Cookie,I am gonna try to continue reading right along with you.   ::HelloKitty::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 10:20:55 AM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/2010/04/casey-anthony-3-strikes-and-youre-out/
    Casey Anthony: 3 Strikes And You’re Out
    Wednesday, April 7, 2010
    By Express


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 10:21:45 AM
    One thing that stood out in River's interview, is she hearing George screaming at Cindy about not getting the money first before an interview  ::MonkeyEek:: he was on the phone with Cindy.

    And...that he hung up on Cindy!!! (He's brave on the phone while she's out of town and can't get to him).   ::MonkeyTongue::


    ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: He sure is. I guess that I also am going to have to think that maybe the freezer was used, I really didn't think so, but you know she just may have put Caylee in there  ::MonkeyShocked::

    had not heard or considered a freezer before ....but...she could have put her in there to stop the decomp and someone ELSE did indeed put Caylee out in the woods after Casey was arrested/in jail..someone like George, Lee or Cindy??? that is just grotesque to even think about...but wouldn't freezers and the like have been searched early on when Caylee was reported missing??? unless they moved her before they Cindy called the police that first night after confronting Casey?? Casey was talking with Lee in the bedroom, had confessed that Caylee was missing...Cindy was on the phone with the police after that, Lee took Caylee to the woods to leave her body?? I am sick right now thinking of it...
    Cookie I just don't know what to think about that freezer and the entire family. The one thing that just makes no sense and never will, did Cindy and George ever once consider that they would get caught taking in donations and going all over the darn place spouting Caylee is alive? I mean really they can't be that blasted dumb, they must have figured that it would all get out there eventually, that they knew Caylee was dead, and they continued this obscene farce.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 10:22:39 AM

    Ono!   ::MonkeyDevil::  my eyes were bloodshot last night.......I really can't believe the DUHfence didn't at least TRY to keep these from getting out.....BOZO keeps screaming 'they are trying to kill her', when, in fact, he just supplied some rusty nails for her coffin!!

    Baez better watch out...we all know that if people hear something enough times, the it tends to become thought of as fact...well he may be trying to taint the jury, but he may get what he wished for and the taint would be that she is to be killed.   ::MonkeyTongue::

    Especially now that the people are FL are paying for her DUHfence ::rhino::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 10:22:47 AM
    One thing that stood out in River's interview, is she hearing George screaming at Cindy about not getting the money first before an interview  ::MonkeyEek:: he was on the phone with Cindy.

    And...that he hung up on Cindy!!! (He's brave on the phone while she's out of town and can't get to him).   ::MonkeyTongue::


    ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: He sure is. I guess that I also am going to have to think that maybe the freezer was used, I really didn't think so, but you know she just may have put Caylee in there  ::MonkeyShocked::

    It crossed my mind that she may have used a bunch of frozen products in the trunk to try to slow down the decomp...it sure would explain some of the trash found in her car.   God, Tony must be revolting thinking about popsicles & food Casey said she got from her home.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 10:23:07 AM
    http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
    Casey’s “Homer Simpson” moments
    Posted on April 7th, 2010 by JWG


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 10:23:36 AM
    The nutty defense, dimished capacity doesn't work for the not guilty, someone else did it.
    Anything she reportedly said, not wrote isn't going to be allowed as the purpose for Robin was to help her own case.
    ....
    Why didn't Bozo get her some mental health help in there instead of almost leading her on with chance he could get her off ? 
    ..
    Another thought, didn't she frist see the news about the remains before she saw the chaplin ? Didn't they have her in front of the TV ?
    ..
    She is one sick puppy and so are Cindy, George and Lee.

    No, she did not see coverage of the remains being discovered.    She saw coverage of the search at Jay Blanchard Park in November but not any news Dec 11th.   

    ...yes, she did. She was taken to the medical area. In fact, her reaction was videotaped and a hearing was held so as not to release the video to the public.  She watched the fiasco at JBP and had no reaction.

    Good Morning Monks!!  I have eye drops and nausea meds for those that need them! ::MonkeyTongue::

    Sunny   If you scrolled down the page you would have seen that I clarified when she did see coverage & said precisely what you had to bold that she did see coverage after she was in the med unit & that even then what she did see would not have given her information about what was recovered with the remains.    The discussion was if she had seen coverage that included details of items found at the scene prior to her talking to other inmates & the answer to that is no.

    I think Casey stepped in her mess kit on these litte details AND whoever checked these out in Baez's office didn't catch it.  This is a BIG deal for the DUHfense...a big NEGATIVE deal....



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 10:25:02 AM
    One thing that stood out in River's interview, is she hearing George screaming at Cindy about not getting the money first before an interview  ::MonkeyEek:: he was on the phone with Cindy.

    And...that he hung up on Cindy!!! (He's brave on the phone while she's out of town and can't get to him).   ::MonkeyTongue::


    ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: He sure is. I guess that I also am going to have to think that maybe the freezer was used, I really didn't think so, but you know she just may have put Caylee in there  ::MonkeyShocked::

    had not heard or considered a freezer before ....but...she could have put her in there to stop the decomp and someone ELSE did indeed put Caylee out in the woods after Casey was arrested/in jail..someone like George, Lee or Cindy??? that is just grotesque to even think about...but wouldn't freezers and the like have been searched early on when Caylee was reported missing??? unless they moved her before they Cindy called the police that first night after confronting Casey?? Casey was talking with Lee in the bedroom, had confessed that Caylee was missing...Cindy was on the phone with the police after that, Lee took Caylee to the woods to leave her body?? I am sick right now thinking of it...
    Cookie I just don't know what to think about that freezer and the entire family. The one thing that just makes no sense and never will, did Cindy and George ever once consider that they would get caught taking in donations and going all over the darn place spouting Caylee is alive? I mean really they can't be that blasted dumb, they must have figured that it would all get out there eventually, that they knew Caylee was dead, and they continued this obscene farce.

    To semi quote Cindy threatening Tim Miller "you dont mess with the Anthony family" this is that entire family's mindset.   All of them in one way or another felt that they would get away with or get around all their bad deeds, that is quite evident.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 10:25:09 AM

    ...yes, she did. She was taken to the medical area. In fact, her reaction was videotaped and a hearing was held so as not to release the video to the public.  She watched the fiasco at JBP and had no reaction.

    Good Morning Monks!!  I have eye drops and nausea meds for those that need them! ::MonkeyTongue::

    Sunny...I'll take some of those eye drops and a double dose of nausea meds....I stayed up all night reading...only good part is that I got it all read.   ::MonkeyCool::

    WOW, Puzzler, you need a medal for that effort!! I appreciated reading your posts and that you noted page and line where you were quoting from......

    I gave up on pg 104 of the first pdf and thats' where I will pick up later on today.

    The best portion was reading Krystal/River's part.  George was pulling the wool over her eyes, but once she caught on to him...she gave it right back to him.

    He actually asked her to give him $20,000!!!

    what a scumbag he is.............I wonder how sin-sin found out River was giving him money???


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 10:26:09 AM
    One thing that stood out in River's interview, is she hearing George screaming at Cindy about not getting the money first before an interview  ::MonkeyEek:: he was on the phone with Cindy.

    And...that he hung up on Cindy!!! (He's brave on the phone while she's out of town and can't get to him).   ::MonkeyTongue::

     ::MonkeyDevil::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 10:26:39 AM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/2010/04/casey-anthony-3-strikes-and-youre-out/
    Casey Anthony: 3 Strikes And You’re Out
    Wednesday, April 7, 2010
    By Express
    ”She also wrote to inmate Robyn Adams, “I know that Caylee’s nanny, the real Zenaida, the girl who was my friend for four years, I know in my heart that she’s not responsible.  ::MonkeyEek:: You know in this chick's mind did she think there was a real Zenaida, the girl who was my friend for four years. What is she an imaginary friend, which I wouldn't doubt. She probably has had many imaginary friends through the years, and she has it all mixed up in that brain of hers.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 10:28:15 AM
    my eyes are still hurting from all the strain of reading those letters last night...I am going to attempt to continue reading them today/tonight.....I am gobsmacked over all of this...how Baez is so stupid as to think that these letters would not be harmful...


    Morning cookie.......I think most of us are a bit taken back that he didn't at least try to keep this information sealed..............what a BOZO!!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 10:28:40 AM
    The nutty defense, dimished capacity doesn't work for the not guilty, someone else did it.
    Anything she reportedly said, not wrote isn't going to be allowed as the purpose for Robin was to help her own case.
    ....
    Why didn't Bozo get her some mental health help in there instead of almost leading her on with chance he could get her off ? 
    ..
    Another thought, didn't she frist see the news about the remains before she saw the chaplin ? Didn't they have her in front of the TV ?
    ..
    She is one sick puppy and so are Cindy, George and Lee.

    No, she did not see coverage of the remains being discovered.    She saw coverage of the search at Jay Blanchard Park in November but not any news Dec 11th.   

    ...yes, she did. She was taken to the medical area. In fact, her reaction was videotaped and a hearing was held so as not to release the video to the public.  She watched the fiasco at JBP and had no reaction.

    Good Morning Monks!!  I have eye drops and nausea meds for those that need them! ::MonkeyTongue::

    Sunny   If you scrolled down the page you would have seen that I clarified when she did see coverage & said precisely what you had to bold that she did see coverage after she was in the med unit & that even then what she did see would not have given her information about what was recovered with the remains.    The discussion was if she had seen coverage that included details of items found at the scene prior to her talking to other inmates & the answer to that is no.

    I think Casey stepped in her mess kit on these litte details AND whoever checked these out in Baez's office didn't catch it.  This is a BIG deal for the DUHfense...a big NEGATIVE deal....



    Puzzler, I couldnt agree more.   The fact that she gave details prior to their release is HUGE, one tiny problem though this information was not written in Casey's own words but a reporting of what she said to someone.   What it will exhibit is that if she indeed said this to inmates (if my memory serves it is more than one reportedly) the timeline and coverage of the media during those first few hours will verify that this information was NOT available to anyone yet.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 10:29:36 AM
    my eyes are still hurting from all the strain of reading those letters last night...I am going to attempt to continue reading them today/tonight.....I am gobsmacked over all of this...how Baez is so stupid as to think that these letters would not be harmful...


    He is an idiot.
    Cookie,I am gonna try to continue reading right along with you.   ::HelloKitty::

    FYI - All the good parts in the letters have been gleaned and reported in the various comments made by reporters and posted here.  The vast majority of KC's letters are drivel and jibberish.

    The good parts to read and that give you a lot of detail are the interviews between LE and Krystal/River, Robyn Adams and Sheila Hernandez. 


    My 2 cents...


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 10:30:28 AM
    http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
    Casey’s “Homer Simpson” moments
    Posted on April 7th, 2010 by JWG
    Yet, the passages have a certain Homer Simpson quality to them. ::MonkeyCool:: Oh they sure do.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 10:31:56 AM
    my eyes are still hurting from all the strain of reading those letters last night...I am going to attempt to continue reading them today/tonight.....I am gobsmacked over all of this...how Baez is so stupid as to think that these letters would not be harmful...


    He is an idiot.
    Cookie,I am gonna try to continue reading right along with you.   ::HelloKitty::

    FYI - All the good parts in the letters have been gleaned and reported in the various comments made by reporters and posted here.  The vast majority of KC's letters are drivel and jibberish.

    The good parts to read and that give you a lot of detail are the interviews between LE and Krystal/River, Robyn Adams and Sheila Hernandez. 


    My 2 cents...

    Thank you,I was reading the supplement last night. If I try and read all these letters I may poke my own eyes out.   ::rhino::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 10:32:22 AM
    my eyes are still hurting from all the strain of reading those letters last night...I am going to attempt to continue reading them today/tonight.....I am gobsmacked over all of this...how Baez is so stupid as to think that these letters would not be harmful...


    He is an idiot.
    Cookie,I am gonna try to continue reading right along with you.   ::HelloKitty::

    FYI - All the good parts in the letters have been gleaned and reported in the various comments made by reporters and posted here.  The vast majority of KC's letters are drivel and jibberish.

    The good parts to read and that give you a lot of detail are the interviews between LE and Krystal/River, Robyn Adams and Sheila Hernandez. 


    My 2 cents...
    I agree, I'm not done yet with them, but it is certainly easier to read, and there is a lot of info in them. Though the letters were entertaining.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 10:32:31 AM
    http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
    Casey’s “Homer Simpson” moments
    Posted on April 7th, 2010 by JWG
    Yet, the passages have a certain Homer Simpson quality to them. ::MonkeyCool:: Oh they sure do.

    (http://www.topnews.in/files/homer-simpson-doh.jpg)


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 10:34:25 AM
     ::MonkeyDance:: Now I'll never be able to look at Homer the same anymore  ::MonkeyHaHa::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 10:40:10 AM
    Cappy.....    ::MonkeyDance::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Babybear on April 07, 2010, 10:40:17 AM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Casey Anthony Jail Letter Released
    04/07/2010

    Good morning Trim and other Monks...Some of you are really early risers!

    Thanks for posting that link about Casey writing about evidence not yet revealed.  When Casey was watching TV in the infirmary and learned a body of a child had been found, according to statements made, she had an episode of hyperventilation and other emotional symptoms.  No wonder.  Even though the body was not yet identified nor was it even described, she knew it was Caylee because she had placed her there.  And she pretty darn near put the last nail in her coffin when she described circumstances and evidence which had not been made public. 

    It is surreal to read her letters planning a great future with her paramour or whatever the other woman is; Designing an RV, describing herself as a photographer, etc.  She has no future, but Jose is insisting that she will be freed.

    Jose Baez has not, IMO, served her well.  She is living on his false promises and has no other source of information, so she has to depend on what he says.  Not that I feel sorry for her, how could one feel sorry for someone who killed her own baby?  But because of Jose's inept (IMO) representation, there is a danger an appeal of her conviction would be successful. 

    She really thinks she knows it all, but in reality, knows very little. An ignorant perrson who thinks she's a paralegal and qualified to help others with their legal problems.  I wonder if she impressed the others with her "great" knowledge.  Did you see the reference to her "Law drawer?"



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 10:41:36 AM
    One thing that stood out in River's interview, is she hearing George screaming at Cindy about not getting the money first before an interview  ::MonkeyEek:: he was on the phone with Cindy.

    And...that he hung up on Cindy!!! (He's brave on the phone while she's out of town and can't get to him).   ::MonkeyTongue::


    ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: He sure is. I guess that I also am going to have to think that maybe the freezer was used, I really didn't think so, but you know she just may have put Caylee in there  ::MonkeyShocked::

    had not heard or considered a freezer before ....but...she could have put her in there to stop the decomp and someone ELSE did indeed put Caylee out in the woods after Casey was arrested/in jail..someone like George, Lee or Cindy??? that is just grotesque to even think about...but wouldn't freezers and the like have been searched early on when Caylee was reported missing??? unless they moved her before they Cindy called the police that first night after confronting Casey?? Casey was talking with Lee in the bedroom, had confessed that Caylee was missing...Cindy was on the phone with the police after that, Lee took Caylee to the woods to leave her body?? I am sick right now thinking of it...
    Cookie I just don't know what to think about that freezer and the entire family. The one thing that just makes no sense and never will, did Cindy and George ever once consider that they would get caught taking in donations and going all over the darn place spouting Caylee is alive? I mean really they can't be that blasted dumb, they must have figured that it would all get out there eventually, that they knew Caylee was dead, and they continued this obscene farce.

    To semi quote Cindy threatening Tim Miller "you dont mess with the Anthony family" this is that entire family's mindset.   All of them in one way or another felt that they would get away with or get around all their bad deeds, that is quite evident.

    Yep!  ::MonkeyTongue::



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 10:41:57 AM
    George is one dumb fool, he figures River wouldn't go to authorities because he thought she was an illegal?  :roll:


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 10:45:05 AM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Casey Anthony Jail Letter Released
    04/07/2010

    Good morning Trim and other Monks...Some of you are really early risers!

    Thanks for posting that link about Casey writing about evidence not yet revealed.  When Casey was watching TV in the infirmary and learned a body of a child had been found, according to statements made, she had an episode of hyperventilation and other emotional symptoms.  No wonder.  Even though the body was not yet identified nor was it even described, she knew it was Caylee because she had placed her there.  And she pretty darn near put the last nail in her coffin when she described circumstances and evidence which had not been made public. 

    It is surreal to read her letters planning a great future with her paramour or whatever the other woman is; Designing an RV, describing herself as a photographer, etc.  She has no future, but Jose is insisting that she will be freed.

    Jose Baez has not, IMO, served her well.  She is living on his false promises and has no other source of information, so she has to depend on what he says.  Not that I feel sorry for her, how could one feel sorry for someone who killed her own baby?  But because of Jose's inept (IMO) representation, there is a danger an appeal of her conviction would be successful. 

    She really thinks she knows it all, but in reality, knows very little. An ignorant perrson who thinks she's a paralegal and qualified to help others with their legal problems.  I wonder if she impressed the others with her "great" knowledge.  Did you see the reference to her "Law drawer?"


    Law drawer  ::MonkeyWink:: It almost feels like for the first time in her life that she is important, she seems to fit in there at the jail quite nicely, seems to not be bothered being told what to do and what not to do. She has a tight schedule for the day that obviously she needs, jail suits her just fine.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 07, 2010, 10:47:06 AM
    The nutty defense, dimished capacity doesn't work for the not guilty, someone else did it.
    Anything she reportedly said, not wrote isn't going to be allowed as the purpose for Robin was to help her own case.
    ....
    Why didn't Bozo get her some mental health help in there instead of almost leading her on with chance he could get her off ? 
    ..
    Another thought, didn't she frist see the news about the remains before she saw the chaplin ? Didn't they have her in front of the TV ?
    ..
    She is one sick puppy and so are Cindy, George and Lee.

    No, she did not see coverage of the remains being discovered.    She saw coverage of the search at Jay Blanchard Park in November but not any news Dec 11th.   

    ...yes, she did. She was taken to the medical area. In fact, her reaction was videotaped and a hearing was held so as not to release the video to the public.  She watched the fiasco at JBP and had no reaction.

    Good Morning Monks!!  I have eye drops and nausea meds for those that need them! ::MonkeyTongue::

    Sunny   If you scrolled down the page you would have seen that I clarified when she did see coverage & said precisely what you had to bold that she did see coverage after she was in the med unit & that even then what she did see would not have given her information about what was recovered with the remains.    The discussion was if she had seen coverage that included details of items found at the scene prior to her talking to other inmates & the answer to that is no.

    I think Casey stepped in her mess kit on these litte details AND whoever checked these out in Baez's office didn't catch it.  This is a BIG deal for the DUHfense...a big NEGATIVE deal....



    Puzzler, I couldnt agree more.   The fact that she gave details prior to their release is HUGE, one tiny problem though this information was not written in Casey's own words but a reporting of what she said to someone.   What it will exhibit is that if she indeed said this to inmates (if my memory serves it is more than one reportedly) the timeline and coverage of the media during those first few hours will verify that this information was NOT available to anyone yet.

    Robyn Adams was the one telling this and she also said that the notably different ways that KC acted when the bones were found on the river dive (KC was almost giggling and saying it wasn't her daughter) and when the remains were found on Suburban Drive (KC was very upset) cause Robyn to really notice the difference and began thinking negative thoughts of KC's involvement (or words to that effect).



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Tevye on April 07, 2010, 10:49:14 AM

    ...yes, she did. She was taken to the medical area. In fact, her reaction was videotaped and a hearing was held so as not to release the video to the public.  She watched the fiasco at JBP and had no reaction.

    Good Morning Monks!!  I have eye drops and nausea meds for those that need them! ::MonkeyTongue::

    Sunny...I'll take some of those eye drops and a double dose of nausea meds....I stayed up all night reading...only good part is that I got it all read.   ::MonkeyCool::

    WOW, Puzzler, you need a medal for that effort!! I appreciated reading your posts and that you noted page and line where you were quoting from......

    I gave up on pg 104 of the first pdf and thats' where I will pick up later on today.

    The best portion was reading Krystal/River's part.  George was pulling the wool over her eyes, but once she caught on to him...she gave it right back to him.

    He actually asked her to give him $20,000!!!

    what a scumbag he is.............I wonder how sin-sin found out River was giving him money???
    From the sheriff's report: River went to the Ant farm to give them some flowers. CinSin came to the door, appearing to be medicated. CinSin asked River if she had given Georgie $, River said yes, CinSin got mad, but seemingly at George, not River.

    Evidently whatever meds CinSin were on saved River from a little "hammer time". I think this happened on the day of the memorial, but am not positive.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Babybear on April 07, 2010, 10:51:01 AM
    One thing that stood out in River's interview, is she hearing George screaming at Cindy about not getting the money first before an interview  ::MonkeyEek:: he was on the phone with Cindy.

    'Morning, NRCG, yeah, that was interesting.  Not the picture we have of George. We've seen him screaming at others to "Shut up, shut up, shut up," and glimpses of his temper with Mr. Morgan.  George was there for as long as Mr. Morgan wanted him to be, and his threat to "Walk out of here in five minutes" was silly.  But I didn't think he had the cajones to yell at Cindy.  After all, she wears them as earrings.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 11:08:46 AM
    One thing that stood out in River's interview, is she hearing George screaming at Cindy about not getting the money first before an interview  ::MonkeyEek:: he was on the phone with Cindy.

    'Morning, NRCG, yeah, that was interesting.  Not the picture we have of George. We've seen him screaming at others to "Shut up, shut up, shut up," and glimpses of his temper with Mr. Morgan.  George was there for as long as Mr. Morgan wanted him to be, and his threat to "Walk out of here in five minutes" was silly.  But I didn't think he had the cajones to yell at Cindy.  After all, she wears them as earrings.
    She sure does  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I'm still reading River's interview. I didn't trust her at first, but reading this, she is a wealth of info. I'm starting to really like her now  ::MonkeyCool::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 07, 2010, 11:19:12 AM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Casey Anthony Jail Letter Released
    04/07/2010

    Good morning Trim and other Monks...Some of you are really early risers!

    Thanks for posting that link about Casey writing about evidence not yet revealed.  When Casey was watching TV in the infirmary and learned a body of a child had been found, according to statements made, she had an episode of hyperventilation and other emotional symptoms.  No wonder.  Even though the body was not yet identified nor was it even described, she knew it was Caylee because she had placed her there.  And she pretty darn near put the last nail in her coffin when she described circumstances and evidence which had not been made public. 

    It is surreal to read her letters planning a great future with her paramour or whatever the other woman is; Designing an RV, describing herself as a photographer, etc.  She has no future, but Jose is insisting that she will be freed.

    Jose Baez has not, IMO, served her well.  She is living on his false promises and has no other source of information, so she has to depend on what he says.  Not that I feel sorry for her, how could one feel sorry for someone who killed her own baby?  But because of Jose's inept (IMO) representation, there is a danger an appeal of her conviction would be successful. 

    She really thinks she knows it all, but in reality, knows very little. An ignorant perrson who thinks she's a paralegal and qualified to help others with their legal problems.  I wonder if she impressed the others with her "great" knowledge.  Did you see the reference to her "Law drawer?"


    I just took a break from reading and that was one of the things I read - I could not believe it - she is a movie star and a law professional etc......what blows my mind is how she is giving herself permission to move forward (because that is what God told her to do)  which in essence means she is giving herself permission to forget what she did to Caylee - it has no relevance in her mind - what's done is done.... time to move on. Seriously????  She is freaking nuts.  I can't even put into words how nuts she is.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: ISpy on April 07, 2010, 11:22:40 AM
    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-letters-20100406,0,5704019.story
    Inmate: Casey Anthony talks about drugs to ‘knock’ out Caylee in jailhouse letters
    Prosecutors released Casey Anthony jailhouse letters Tuesday.

    By Sarah Lundy and Amy L. Edwards, Orlando Sentinel
    7:26 a.m. EDT, April 7, 2010
    Did Casey Anthony tell a jailhouse friend a detail only her daughter's killer would know?

    **SNIPPED**

    Other details in Anthony's letters included:

    Her crush on one of the attorneys in Baez's law firm.

    "Baez=my other papa/super close friend; Jose G. = my school girl crush," she wrote, referring to attorney Jose Garcia.

    •Her sometimes difficult relationship with her parents, George and Cindy Anthony.

    "They show their ‘support' for the sake of the cameras, but when it comes to the ‘real story' I'm alone. . . I have a non-existent relationship with two of the most important people in the world to me, and it's to the point where I don't even want to bother."

    Anthony's case is set for trial next year.

    Willoughby Mariano, Walter Pacheco and Bianca Prieto of the Sentinel staff contributed to this report.


    Good morning!  I found it quite amusing, as well as predictable, that Casey found it necessary to "overclarify" her relationship with Baez in her letters to Robyn.  "Second papa", "Close friend" Baez abruptly began keeping (and continues to maintain) his physical distance from his client once OSCO began investigating certain attorney-client videotapes and people began filing bar complaints. Reading that, I clearly see Casey's pouty face in her all-about-sex Blackjack dealer costume.  We already know she lies, steals, and manipulates to get her way.  Simply put, the heat was on to clear Baez from suspicion and so Casey "explains".  I hope we see those attorney-client videos.  More importantly, I hope the FL Bar Association sees all the attorney-client videos of Baez and Anthony.  You can bet when Casey tries to clarify something: it's important and she's lying (misdirecting/telling a mistruth).   ::MonkeyTongue::   


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: stayhomemommy on April 07, 2010, 11:26:39 AM
    Two things.

    First, I am concerned the things KC said (ie about the chloroform) to the inmates might not be admissable; but even if it is, they might be able to discredit those other inmates who allege KC said these things. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

    Second: Is Baez setting KC up for getting a new trial after the first one by her saying she didn't get good legal counsel? I mean, it's obvious he's just not that good of an attorney, or he's playing the system. Again, any thoughts?

    Thanks!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 11:35:11 AM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Casey Anthony Jail Letter Released
    04/07/2010

    Good morning Trim and other Monks...Some of you are really early risers!

    Thanks for posting that link about Casey writing about evidence not yet revealed.  When Casey was watching TV in the infirmary and learned a body of a child had been found, according to statements made, she had an episode of hyperventilation and other emotional symptoms.  No wonder.  Even though the body was not yet identified nor was it even described, she knew it was Caylee because she had placed her there.  And she pretty darn near put the last nail in her coffin when she described circumstances and evidence which had not been made public. 

    It is surreal to read her letters planning a great future with her paramour or whatever the other woman is; Designing an RV, describing herself as a photographer, etc.  She has no future, but Jose is insisting that she will be freed.

    Jose Baez has not, IMO, served her well.  She is living on his false promises and has no other source of information, so she has to depend on what he says.  Not that I feel sorry for her, how could one feel sorry for someone who killed her own baby?  But because of Jose's inept (IMO) representation, there is a danger an appeal of her conviction would be successful. 

    She really thinks she knows it all, but in reality, knows very little. An ignorant perrson who thinks she's a paralegal and qualified to help others with their legal problems.  I wonder if she impressed the others with her "great" knowledge.  Did you see the reference to her "Law drawer?"


    Law drawer  ::MonkeyWink:: It almost feels like for the first time in her life that she is important, she seems to fit in there at the jail quite nicely, seems to not be bothered being told what to do and what not to do. She has a tight schedule for the day that obviously she needs, jail suits her just fine.

    She is finally away from Cindy.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: ISpy on April 07, 2010, 11:36:18 AM
    **Running, out of breath** Will have to catch up later.  Don't go so fast! LOL!  Have a good day, all!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: luvmyboys on April 07, 2010, 11:43:16 AM
    o/t hi all..i am watching a trial on in session about a girl that died in a house fire..she has restraints on or should i say a dog chain and she was tied down to the bed..the parents say they had to tie her down because she would get into everything she would eat dangerous things includeing biting on razor blades..here is my thing my so was adhd really bad..he would get up in the middle of the night and cook and burn stuff..i caught him outside at 3 in the morning..because i had to put him on adhd medicine so that meant he could not sleep..well i took him to the doctor and they put him on clonidine..and finally he can sleep..he hated not being able to sleep and i hated seeing him like that..and wondering what he was gonna do..he is not mental he is just adhd other than that he is fine,,i just wonder if they would have told her doctor what was going on she could have been helped in that way also...it is such a aweful thing watching this trial


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Sassycat on April 07, 2010, 11:45:50 AM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Casey Anthony Jail Letter Released
    04/07/2010

    Good morning Trim and other Monks...Some of you are really early risers!

    Thanks for posting that link about Casey writing about evidence not yet revealed.  When Casey was watching TV in the infirmary and learned a body of a child had been found, according to statements made, she had an episode of hyperventilation and other emotional symptoms.  No wonder.  Even though the body was not yet identified nor was it even described, she knew it was Caylee because she had placed her there.  And she pretty darn near put the last nail in her coffin when she described circumstances and evidence which had not been made public. 

    It is surreal to read her letters planning a great future with her paramour or whatever the other woman is; Designing an RV, describing herself as a photographer, etc.  She has no future, but Jose is insisting that she will be freed.

    Jose Baez has not, IMO, served her well.  She is living on his false promises and has no other source of information, so she has to depend on what he says.  Not that I feel sorry for her, how could one feel sorry for someone who killed her own baby?  But because of Jose's inept (IMO) representation, there is a danger an appeal of her conviction would be successful. 

    She really thinks she knows it all, but in reality, knows very little. An ignorant perrson who thinks she's a paralegal and qualified to help others with their legal problems.  I wonder if she impressed the others with her "great" knowledge.  Did you see the reference to her "Law drawer?"


    Law drawer  ::MonkeyWink:: It almost feels like for the first time in her life that she is important, she seems to fit in there at the jail quite nicely, seems to not be bothered being told what to do and what not to do. She has a tight schedule for the day that obviously she needs, jail suits her just fine.

    She is finally away from Cindy.


    And she doesn't have to take care of a child anymore.   She can totally focus on herself.    ::MonkeyMad::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Sassycat on April 07, 2010, 11:48:40 AM
    Two things.

    First, I am concerned the things KC said (ie about the chloroform) to the inmates might not be admissable; but even if it is, they might be able to discredit those other inmates who allege KC said these things. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

    Second: Is Baez setting KC up for getting a new trial after the first one by her saying she didn't get good legal counsel? I mean, it's obvious he's just not that good of an attorney, or he's playing the system. Again, any thoughts?

    Thanks!
    ::HelloKitty::   -  I was kinda thinking along the same lines last night -  is Bozo setting this up to have any conviction overturned later??    It sure seems that way to me.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 11:50:17 AM
    http://www.wesh.com/news/23077992/detail.html
    Family Problems Detailed In Anthony Letters
    Casey Anthony Says She Feels Betrayed

    POSTED: 11:22 am EDT April 7, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony revealed disturbing details about her family in jailhouse letters released on Tuesday.

    In addition to claims she was molested, Anthony wrote she feels betrayed.

    According to the letters, Anthony was disgusted by her parents' behavior.

    In one letter, Anthony wrote about how her mother failed to show up for one of her court hearings last year.

    "Turns out she meets with Meredith Vieira, formerly of the View ... She's not well enough to take advantage of seeing me in person on Friday but can schmooze with dirtbags the next day," Anthony wrote.

    In another letter, Anthony claimed her mother was looking to capitalize on Caylee Anthony's death.

    "Come to find out she put a trademark on Caylee's name a few months ago and even talked about doing the same with mine ... B - E - T - R - A - Y - A - L! I'm so sick to my stomach even thinking about this," Anthony wrote.

    As for claims of being sexually abused, Anthony told her penpal, "I know what it feels like to be physically, emotionally and sexually abused ... I was to blame for my brother walking into my room at night and feeling my breasts while I slept ... I think my dad did the same thing to me but when I was much younger."
    The letters indicate that, as far as Anthony is concerned, there is a significant rift between herself and her family.

    Anthony also praised her attorney, Jose Baez, saying he's a caring friend and a father figure.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 11:51:15 AM
    **Running, out of breath** Will have to catch up later.  Don't go so fast! LOL!  Have a good day, all!

    Good to see you ISpy.   ::HelloKitty::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 11:51:16 AM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Casey Anthony Jail Letter Released
    04/07/2010

    Good morning Trim and other Monks...Some of you are really early risers!

    Thanks for posting that link about Casey writing about evidence not yet revealed.  When Casey was watching TV in the infirmary and learned a body of a child had been found, according to statements made, she had an episode of hyperventilation and other emotional symptoms.  No wonder.  Even though the body was not yet identified nor was it even described, she knew it was Caylee because she had placed her there.  And she pretty darn near put the last nail in her coffin when she described circumstances and evidence which had not been made public. 

    It is surreal to read her letters planning a great future with her paramour or whatever the other woman is; Designing an RV, describing herself as a photographer, etc.  She has no future, but Jose is insisting that she will be freed.

    Jose Baez has not, IMO, served her well.  She is living on his false promises and has no other source of information, so she has to depend on what he says.  Not that I feel sorry for her, how could one feel sorry for someone who killed her own baby?  But because of Jose's inept (IMO) representation, there is a danger an appeal of her conviction would be successful. 

    She really thinks she knows it all, but in reality, knows very little. An ignorant perrson who thinks she's a paralegal and qualified to help others with their legal problems.  I wonder if she impressed the others with her "great" knowledge.  Did you see the reference to her "Law drawer?"


    Law drawer  ::MonkeyWink:: It almost feels like for the first time in her life that she is important, she seems to fit in there at the jail quite nicely, seems to not be bothered being told what to do and what not to do. She has a tight schedule for the day that obviously she needs, jail suits her just fine.

    She is finally away from Cindy.


    And she doesn't have to take care of a child anymore.   She can totally focus on herself.    ::MonkeyMad::

    Yea but the only "RV" ride she is going to get is to her permanent home in prison, a reservation is being held on death row with her name on it.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 07, 2010, 11:51:42 AM
    It's wonderful that Jesse Grund escaped marrying into that family.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Babybear on April 07, 2010, 11:56:07 AM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Casey Anthony Jail Letter Released
    04/07/2010

    Good morning Trim and other Monks...Some of you are really early risers!

    Thanks for posting that link about Casey writing about evidence not yet revealed.  When Casey was watching TV in the infirmary and learned a body of a child had been found, according to statements made, she had an episode of hyperventilation and other emotional symptoms.  No wonder.  Even though the body was not yet identified nor was it even described, she knew it was Caylee because she had placed her there.  And she pretty darn near put the last nail in her coffin when she described circumstances and evidence which had not been made public. 

    It is surreal to read her letters planning a great future with her paramour or whatever the other woman is; Designing an RV, describing herself as a photographer, etc.  She has no future, but Jose is insisting that she will be freed.

    Jose Baez has not, IMO, served her well.  She is living on his false promises and has no other source of information, so she has to depend on what he says.  Not that I feel sorry for her, how could one feel sorry for someone who killed her own baby?  But because of Jose's inept (IMO) representation, there is a danger an appeal of her conviction would be successful. 

    She really thinks she knows it all, but in reality, knows very little. An ignorant perrson who thinks she's a paralegal and qualified to help others with their legal problems.  I wonder if she impressed the others with her "great" knowledge.  Did you see the reference to her "Law drawer?"


    Law drawer  ::MonkeyWink:: It almost feels like for the first time in her life that she is important, she seems to fit in there at the jail quite nicely, seems to not be bothered being told what to do and what not to do. She has a tight schedule for the day that obviously she needs, jail suits her just fine.

    She is finally away from Cindy.


    And she doesn't have to take care of a child anymore.   She can totally focus on herself.    ::MonkeyMad::

    I can see how being away from Cindy would have its attractions. 

    I too find it offensive the way she uses God to suit her purposes.  "God is on our side."  I doubt seriously that God is on the side of a baby killer.  IMO in order to find forgiveness you have to confess and show remorse.  Casey has done none of these things. She continues to lie.

    There was an incident here in TN several years ago where a group of young people kidnapped a family of four--two small children and their parents--and killed three of them.  The little boy survived, having been shot and run over with the family van. He's now living with relatives in Sweden and is a qudraplegic. This group of monsters appeared in court holding bibles. They too  had "Found God."  It seems that all of these evil creatures find "God" in prison.  I don't think it will impress a jury.  I don't think it impresses God.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 11:56:58 AM
    It's wonderful that Jesse Grund escaped marrying into that family.

    Praise be but I bet he wished he did so that he might have possibly been enough of a presence to save Caylee...how horribly tragic.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 11:57:09 AM
    Two things.

    First, I am concerned the things KC said (ie about the chloroform) to the inmates might not be admissable; but even if it is, they might be able to discredit those other inmates who allege KC said these things. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

    Second: Is Baez setting KC up for getting a new trial after the first one by her saying she didn't get good legal counsel? I mean, it's obvious he's just not that good of an attorney, or he's playing the system. Again, any thoughts?

    Thanks!
    ::HelloKitty::   -  I was kinda thinking along the same lines last night -  is Bozo setting this up to have any conviction overturned later??    It sure seems that way to me.
    Baez isn't going to be there much longer, Mason can handle this well without interference by this numnut  ::MonkeyTongue::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 11:57:55 AM
    It's wonderful that Jesse Grund escaped marrying into that family.
    Oh yeah


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 11:59:19 AM
    http://www.wesh.com/news/23077992/detail.html
    Family Problems Detailed In Anthony Letters
    Casey Anthony Says She Feels Betrayed

    POSTED: 11:22 am EDT April 7, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony revealed disturbing details about her family in jailhouse letters released on Tuesday.

    In addition to claims she was molested, Anthony wrote she feels betrayed.

    According to the letters, Anthony was disgusted by her parents' behavior.

    In one letter, Anthony wrote about how her mother failed to show up for one of her court hearings last year.

    "Turns out she meets with Meredith Vieira, formerly of the View ... She's not well enough to take advantage of seeing me in person on Friday but can schmooze with dirtbags the next day," Anthony wrote.

    In another letter, Anthony claimed her mother was looking to capitalize on Caylee Anthony's death.

    "Come to find out she put a trademark on Caylee's name a few months ago and even talked about doing the same with mine ... B - E - T - R - A - Y - A - L! I'm so sick to my stomach even thinking about this," Anthony wrote.

    As for claims of being sexually abused, Anthony told her penpal, "I know what it feels like to be physically, emotionally and sexually abused ... I was to blame for my brother walking into my room at night and feeling my breasts while I slept ... I think my dad did the same thing to me but when I was much younger."
    The letters indicate that, as far as Anthony is concerned, there is a significant rift between herself and her family.

    Anthony also praised her attorney, Jose Baez, saying he's a caring friend and a father figure.

    I have to say this, there are a few media personalities that have spent time giving the Anthonys the sympathy factor, today by Casey's own words they get their due for being ratings/profit despite the fact morons.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: NCMike on April 07, 2010, 11:59:27 AM
    Putting aside all of Casey's drivel I still think there is a connection with the Anthony's backyard.

    The dogs hit on decomp in the backyard.
    Out of the blue on July 4th GA and CA pour a new concrete slab, 27 bags of concrete(?)
    OCSO took a large area rug from the backporch
    The infamous "gas can incident"
    The freezers in the garage  (Puzzler, I believe you are correct)
    George knew early on and George helped cover up

    Why is George, at the very least, not in jail and charged with obstruction? 

    Also, since Bozo is not DP qualified that is why Lyons and/or Jar are on board.  If that is the case, how could any verdict be overturned due to Bozo's utter incompetence?  Does the defense and litigation ultimately lie in the hands of Lyons and/or Jar.  Isn't Bozo really nothing more than a mouthpiece for the defense?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 12:01:39 PM
    Two things.

    First, I am concerned the things KC said (ie about the chloroform) to the inmates might not be admissable; but even if it is, they might be able to discredit those other inmates who allege KC said these things. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

    Second: Is Baez setting KC up for getting a new trial after the first one by her saying she didn't get good legal counsel? I mean, it's obvious he's just not that good of an attorney, or he's playing the system. Again, any thoughts?

    Thanks!
    ::HelloKitty::   -  I was kinda thinking along the same lines last night -  is Bozo setting this up to have any conviction overturned later??    It sure seems that way to me.
    Baez isn't going to be there much longer, Mason can handle this well without interference by this numnut  ::MonkeyTongue::

    I would have love to see a note from Casey now with her reaction to "her boy" she leaves to do her "lawyering" after yet again making an a$$ out of himself & losing miserably for her the other day in court.   Dum beeotch, moronic man.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: ISpy on April 07, 2010, 12:03:21 PM
    http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
    Casey’s “Homer Simpson” moments
    Posted on April 7th, 2010 by JWG
    Yet, the passages have a certain Homer Simpson quality to them. ::MonkeyCool:: Oh they sure do.

    I'm glad I wasn't the only one who felt like laughing at Casey's farcical attempts at "motherly love" and sincerity.  Her Caylee/Cays/my daughter comments were so disjointed and emotionally incomplete that it was obvious they were for effect only.  IMO, this was part and parcel of her lawyers' counseling her to show emotion in a vain attempt to humanize her....not buying.  Her Caylee comments in the letters read more like overhead slams lobbed in a tennis match...sudden jolts, followed by rhythmic volleys of rambling chitchat.  No grieving mother would EVER discuss her loss in one sentence, immediately followed by how excited she will be to sit next to another mom enjoying activities with her own children. Seriously, no grieving mother is that generous (and understandably so), nor stoic.  The girl has no real emotions of her own folks, other than rage/jealousy/self-absorption.  Not saying that to be mean, just factual.  This is an excellent example of Casey's emotionally inappropriate comments.  She's analyzes Robyn's situation and projects what she thinks a normal person might say.  The problem is Casey has no normal emotional responses (like compassion, empathy, sympathy, grief, etc.), so her delivery is way off and her comments fall short (furiously waving red flags here).

    O.k., really out of here this time. ::MonkeyHaHa::  Check ya later!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: BooMonkey on April 07, 2010, 12:05:46 PM
    Couple of things:

    She closes page 13815 with “Here’s to a brand new year and brand new beginnings!”  Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this the jist of what she put on the inside cover of her journel LE found in her room after Caylee was found?

    Also: Anthony said she informed her mother about the incidents, but that Cindy Anthony turned on her.

    Anthony also claimed she thought her father, George Anthony, did the same things to her when she was much younger. She claimed she sought help from a doctor on her own when she was 18.

    Brad Conway, the attorney for the Anthony family, said, "The Anthony family denies that there was any improper sexual behavior in their family."

    In one of Cindy's interviews with the Feds I believe, they asked her about sexual abuse and she became very quiet and said in a small voice "no.". Hmmmmm very interesting.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 12:07:52 PM
    Couple of things:

    She closes page 13815 with “Here’s to a brand new year and brand new beginnings!”  Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this the jist of what she put on the inside cover of her journel LE found in her room after Caylee was found?

    Also: Anthony said she informed her mother about the incidents, but that Cindy Anthony turned on her.

    Anthony also claimed she thought her father, George Anthony, did the same things to her when she was much younger. She claimed she sought help from a doctor on her own when she was 18.

    Brad Conway, the attorney for the Anthony family, said, "The Anthony family denies that there was any improper sexual behavior in their family."

    In one of Cindy's interviews with the Feds I believe, they asked her about sexual abuse and she became very quiet and said in a small voice "no.". Hmmmmm very interesting.

    Very interesting. Just feel that something like that was happening in that home, just adds up for me.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 12:11:22 PM
    Putting aside all of Casey's drivel I still think there is a connection with the Anthony's backyard.

    The dogs hit on decomp in the backyard.
    Out of the blue on July 4th GA and CA pour a new concrete slab, 27 bags of concrete(?)
    OCSO took a large area rug from the backporch
    The infamous "gas can incident"
    The freezers in the garage  (Puzzler, I believe you are correct)
    George knew early on and George helped cover up

    Why is George, at the very least, not in jail and charged with obstruction? 

    Also, since Bozo is not DP qualified that is why Lyons and/or Jar are on board.  If that is the case, how could any verdict be overturned due to Bozo's utter incompetence?  Does the defense and litigation ultimately lie in the hands of Lyons and/or Jar.  Isn't Bozo really nothing more than a mouthpiece for the defense?

    The fact that Casey has not one but two death penalty qualified attorneys as well as Boden on board & for the record as of this moment Lyons is listed technically as lead counsel Casey does not stand a chance of making an argument of ineffective counsel....she's been afforded a heck of a lot more than most defendants, even facing her charges.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: stayhomemommy on April 07, 2010, 12:13:39 PM
    Two things.

    First, I am concerned the things KC said (ie about the chloroform) to the inmates might not be admissable; but even if it is, they might be able to discredit those other inmates who allege KC said these things. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

    Second: Is Baez setting KC up for getting a new trial after the first one by her saying she didn't get good legal counsel? I mean, it's obvious he's just not that good of an attorney, or he's playing the system. Again, any thoughts?

    Thanks!
    ::HelloKitty::   -  I was kinda thinking along the same lines last night -  is Bozo setting this up to have any conviction overturned later??    It sure seems that way to me.
    Baez isn't going to be there much longer, Mason can handle this well without interference by this numnut  ::MonkeyTongue::

    I would have love to see a note from Casey now with her reaction to "her boy" she leaves to do her "lawyering" after yet again making an a$$ out of himself & losing miserably for her the other day in court.   Dum beeotch, moronic man.

    Okay, thanks...I was wondering here. I hope you're right about Bozo being gone soon enough. I can't even stand to watch him!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: stayhomemommy on April 07, 2010, 12:15:45 PM
    The fact that Casey has not one but two death penalty qualified attorneys as well as Boden on board & for the record as of this moment Lyons is listed technically as lead counsel Casey does not stand a chance of making an argument of ineffective counsel....she's been afforded a heck of a lot more than most defendants, even facing her charges.

    Good point. Thanks for reminding me of that. That is good news!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 07, 2010, 12:16:26 PM
    Two things.

    First, I am concerned the things KC said (ie about the chloroform) to the inmates might not be admissable; but even if it is, they might be able to discredit those other inmates who allege KC said these things. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

    Second: Is Baez setting KC up for getting a new trial after the first one by her saying she didn't get good legal counsel? I mean, it's obvious he's just not that good of an attorney, or he's playing the system. Again, any thoughts?

    Thanks!

    They are not setting Casey up fora new trial.  Baez is simply along for the ride now..Mason and Lyon are controlling this vehicle.  They were more then happy to let this info go out to the public because they want to plea her.  Inorder to do that they have to get her to face the ugly truth about herself.  These letters give them one leg to stand on in their mission to get her to ask for a plea deal. 

    Simply put they are going to confront her with the truth and tell her it is LWOP through a deal or DP with a trial.   They have their work cut out for them making her see the real truth of her situation.  But that is what Mason is here for and Lyon too..to get her to request a plea bargain.



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: NCMike on April 07, 2010, 12:16:45 PM
    Putting aside all of Casey's drivel I still think there is a connection with the Anthony's backyard.

    The dogs hit on decomp in the backyard.
    Out of the blue on July 4th GA and CA pour a new concrete slab, 27 bags of concrete(?)
    OCSO took a large area rug from the backporch
    The infamous "gas can incident"
    The freezers in the garage  (Puzzler, I believe you are correct)
    George knew early on and George helped cover up

    Why is George, at the very least, not in jail and charged with obstruction? 

    Also, since Bozo is not DP qualified that is why Lyons and/or Jar are on board.  If that is the case, how could any verdict be overturned due to Bozo's utter incompetence?  Does the defense and litigation ultimately lie in the hands of Lyons and/or Jar.  Isn't Bozo really nothing more than a mouthpiece for the defense?

    The fact that Casey has not one but two death penalty qualified attorneys as well as Boden on board & for the record as of this moment Lyons is listed technically as lead counsel Casey does not stand a chance of making an argument of ineffective counsel....she's been afforded a heck of a lot more than most defendants, even facing her charges.

    Thanks Capp, that was what I was thinking, or at least hoping.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 12:21:42 PM
    Two things.

    First, I am concerned the things KC said (ie about the chloroform) to the inmates might not be admissable; but even if it is, they might be able to discredit those other inmates who allege KC said these things. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

    Second: Is Baez setting KC up for getting a new trial after the first one by her saying she didn't get good legal counsel? I mean, it's obvious he's just not that good of an attorney, or he's playing the system. Again, any thoughts?

    Thanks!

    They are not setting Casey up fora new trial.  Baez is simply along for the ride now..Mason and Lyon are controlling this vehicle.  They were more then happy to let this info go out to the public because they want to plea her.  Inorder to do that they have to get her to face the ugly truth about herself.  These letters give them one leg to stand on in their mission to get her to ask for a plea deal. 

    Simply put they are going to confront her with the truth and tell her it is LWOP through a deal or DP with a trial.   They have their work cut out for them making her see the real truth of her situation.  But that is what Mason is here for and Lyon too..to get her to request a plea bargain.


    You and I are certainly on the same page, I'm just waiting for it to finally happen.  I just finished River's interview, now on to the next. What I would like to know is why did River's sister Skye lie about River and George having a sexual relationship?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Sassycat on April 07, 2010, 12:22:23 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 12:23:19 PM
    Couple of things:

    She closes page 13815 with “Here’s to a brand new year and brand new beginnings!”  Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this the jist of what she put on the inside cover of her journel LE found in her room after Caylee was found?

    Also: Anthony said she informed her mother about the incidents, but that Cindy Anthony turned on her.

    Anthony also claimed she thought her father, George Anthony, did the same things to her when she was much younger. She claimed she sought help from a doctor on her own when she was 18.

    Brad Conway, the attorney for the Anthony family, said, "The Anthony family denies that there was any improper sexual behavior in their family."

    In one of Cindy's interviews with the Feds I believe, they asked her about sexual abuse and she became very quiet and said in a small voice "no.". Hmmmmm very interesting.


    I found that eerily similar & yes I do believe it goes to her frame of mind dating a few months even before Caylee was killed.     OK Casey, maybe someone will bite at this apple, what doctor?   When did you go see him?   Do you have a receipt, check or invoice exhibiting the visit?   Did you receive medication, if so where did you fill the script?   Are you going to call this doctor to the stand on your behalf to state that you visited & told that you were a victim of sexual abuse?    Im not buying it at all despite the fact that this entire family are scum.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Babybear on April 07, 2010, 12:23:22 PM
    http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
    Casey’s “Homer Simpson” moments
    Posted on April 7th, 2010 by JWG
    Yet, the passages have a certain Homer Simpson quality to them. ::MonkeyCool:: Oh they sure do.

    I'm glad I wasn't the only one who felt like laughing at Casey's farcical attempts at "motherly love" and sincerity.  Her Caylee/Cays/my daughter comments were so disjointed and emotionally incomplete that it was obvious they were for effect only.  IMO, this was part and parcel of her lawyers' counseling her to show emotion in a vain attempt to humanize her....not buying.  Her Caylee comments in the letters read more like overhead slams lobbed in a tennis match...sudden jolts, followed by rhythmic volleys of rambling chitchat.  No grieving mother would EVER discuss her loss in one sentence, immediately followed by how excited she will be to sit next to another mom enjoying activities with her own children. Seriously, no grieving mother is that generous (and understandably so), nor stoic.  The girl has no real emotions of her own folks, other than rage/jealousy/self-absorption.  Not saying that to be mean, just factual.  This is an excellent example of Casey's emotionally inappropriate comments.  She's analyzes Robyn's situation and projects what she thinks a normal person might say.  The problem is Casey has no normal emotional responses (like compassion, empathy, sympathy, grief, etc.), so her delivery is way off and her comments fall short (furiously waving red flags here).

    O.k., really out of here this time. ::MonkeyHaHa::  Check ya later!

    I think you hit the nail on the head, Ispy.  In fact, Casey even says that Lyons taught her how to cry.  Several posters (And I was not one of them) said that they thought the waterworks at the last hearing where Lyons appeared, were a result of Lyons' coaching.  Turns out they were right.  And then she and Lyons snuggled up together in court with Lyons comforting Casey.  What fakes. It was sickening.

    As to the guard who is on "Paid vacation suspension" who allowed all of this fraternizing and visiting, she should be fired.  I don't know if what she did was illegal or not, but it should be.  IMO Casey Anthony should never be allowed to feel the touch of another human being for the rest of her life. 

    But I do hope Casey doesn't run out of toilet paper.  Doncha just hate that.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 12:26:53 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 
    Great question, I'm going to say no, but what do I know. I believe it would be LWOP.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: BooMonkey on April 07, 2010, 12:31:27 PM
    I  believe Casey mentioned having a crush on Jose Garcia in case anything is ever caught in her writings or otherwise about her having a sexual relationship with "Jose". She protected her man by pretending to like another with the same first name. Now if something comes up with her and Jose doing the nasty she can say it was Garcia, not Baez.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 12:31:32 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 

    Who is saying could have gotten 8 years, and based on what - a reduction to manslaughter, maybe so.   To your second question, I doubt sincerely that the State would accept anything less than LWOP plea due to the fact that I have always believed that they are very confident they have enough to get a murder one conviction after the jury hears all the evidence & too much time has lapsed.  The defense has claimed her to be innocent & did not even attempt to establish diminished capacity or an offer for Casey to report where Caylee could be found, this case is way too big now for the State to be willing to accept a plea that the defense offers now at the 11th hour - the public outcry would be fierce.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Sassycat on April 07, 2010, 12:33:43 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 
    Great question, I'm going to say no, but what do I know. I believe it would be LWOP.

    Then I don't think KC will take a plea.   I think she would rather take her chances, roll the dice, and go for broke.    IDK - maybe it is just me - but if I had to spend the rest of my life in prison, I would rather take the DP and get it over with.   And you have to remember, KC thinks God is on her side.    ::MonkeyRoll::

    The State would save millions by offering a deal to her.  But I have a feeling she wouldn't take a deal unless it was for less than LWOP.   jmo.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 12:35:55 PM
    I  believe Casey mentioned having a crush on Jose Garcia in case anything is ever caught in her writings or otherwise about her having a sexual relationship with "Jose". She protected her man by pretending to like another with the same first name. Now if something comes up with her and Jose doing the nasty she can say it was Garcia, not Baez.

    She referred to them as "her boys" I wouldnt be shocked if she attempted to do both, as I see it from afar it appears that only one of them would be that morally devoid to take her up on it.   She also was flirting with Rob right as she was bonded out & anyone that would give her a glance....ho ho ho


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 07, 2010, 12:36:25 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 
    My guess is no I think they have more than enough to put her away forever, poor KC she is so misguided ........being sarcastic of course.  ::MonkeyTongue::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: stayhomemommy on April 07, 2010, 12:37:09 PM
    Two things.

    First, I am concerned the things KC said (ie about the chloroform) to the inmates might not be admissable; but even if it is, they might be able to discredit those other inmates who allege KC said these things. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

    Second: Is Baez setting KC up for getting a new trial after the first one by her saying she didn't get good legal counsel? I mean, it's obvious he's just not that good of an attorney, or he's playing the system. Again, any thoughts?

    Thanks!

    They are not setting Casey up fora new trial.  Baez is simply along for the ride now..Mason and Lyon are controlling this vehicle.  They were more then happy to let this info go out to the public because they want to plea her.  Inorder to do that they have to get her to face the ugly truth about herself.  These letters give them one leg to stand on in their mission to get her to ask for a plea deal. 

    Simply put they are going to confront her with the truth and tell her it is LWOP through a deal or DP with a trial.   They have their work cut out for them making her see the real truth of her situation.  But that is what Mason is here for and Lyon too..to get her to request a plea bargain.



    Interesting! I see where you're going with that. Actually makes sense. I never thought of that. Thanks!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 12:38:38 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 
    Great question, I'm going to say no, but what do I know. I believe it would be LWOP.

    Then I don't think KC will take a plea.   I think she would rather take her chances, roll the dice, and go for broke.    IDK - maybe it is just me - but if I had to spend the rest of my life in prison, I would rather take the DP and get it over with.   And you have to remember, KC thinks God is on her side.    ::MonkeyRoll::

    The State would save millions by offering a deal to her.  But I have a feeling she wouldn't take a deal unless it was for less than LWOP.   jmo.
    I think Mason will be able to convince her, but then again with God on her side.......


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Sassycat on April 07, 2010, 12:41:21 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 

    Who is saying could have gotten 8 years, and based on what - a reduction to manslaughter, maybe so.   To your second question, I doubt sincerely that the State would accept anything less than LWOP plea due to the fact that I have always believed that they are very confident they have enough to get a murder one conviction after the jury hears all the evidence & too much time has lapsed.  The defense has claimed her to be innocent & did not even attempt to establish diminished capacity or an offer for Casey to report where Caylee could be found, this case is way too big now for the State to be willing to accept a plea that the defense offers now at the 11th hour - the public outcry would be fierce.

    Considering how every state is hurting for money, it wouldn't surprise me a bit if the State of Florida considers saving millions of tax payers dollars and making a deal.   Especially if the deal put her sorry azz in prison for a long, long time.    I also have a feeling the public would be happy NOT to have their tax dollars going to this murderer's defense fund/trial.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 12:42:05 PM
    Has anyone read Rozzie Franco's interview yet?  ::MonkeyEek:: I just started it, and it is interesting already, about Mallory.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 12:42:21 PM
    Two things.

    First, I am concerned the things KC said (ie about the chloroform) to the inmates might not be admissable; but even if it is, they might be able to discredit those other inmates who allege KC said these things. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

    Second: Is Baez setting KC up for getting a new trial after the first one by her saying she didn't get good legal counsel? I mean, it's obvious he's just not that good of an attorney, or he's playing the system. Again, any thoughts?

    Thanks!

    They are not setting Casey up fora new trial.  Baez is simply along for the ride now..Mason and Lyon are controlling this vehicle.  They were more then happy to let this info go out to the public because they want to plea her.  Inorder to do that they have to get her to face the ugly truth about herself.  These letters give them one leg to stand on in their mission to get her to ask for a plea deal. 

    Simply put they are going to confront her with the truth and tell her it is LWOP through a deal or DP with a trial.   They have their work cut out for them making her see the real truth of her situation.  But that is what Mason is here for and Lyon too..to get her to request a plea bargain.



    Interesting! I see where you're going with that. Actually makes sense. I never thought of that. Thanks!

    They can beg her to ask for one all they want, the State does not have to accept, so bear that in mind.   Also, I think the real motive of the defense not arguing to have these letters sealed is because they plan on using them during the sentencing phrase as mitigating factors versus her heinous aggravating factors hoping to spare her life....after all THAT is the real reason Lyons is there so that she can have a national podium to put forward her wingnut obsession with attempting to abolish the death penalty in the US.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 12:43:02 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 

    Who is saying could have gotten 8 years, and based on what - a reduction to manslaughter, maybe so.   To your second question, I doubt sincerely that the State would accept anything less than LWOP plea due to the fact that I have always believed that they are very confident they have enough to get a murder one conviction after the jury hears all the evidence & too much time has lapsed.  The defense has claimed her to be innocent & did not even attempt to establish diminished capacity or an offer for Casey to report where Caylee could be found, this case is way too big now for the State to be willing to accept a plea that the defense offers now at the 11th hour - the public outcry would be fierce.

    Considering how every state is hurting for money, it wouldn't surprise me a bit if the State of Florida considers saving millions of tax payers dollars and making a deal.   Especially if the deal put her sorry azz in prison for a long, long time.    I also have a feeling the public would be happy NOT to have their tax dollars going to this murderer's defense fund/trial.
    I agree


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 12:45:34 PM
    http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
    Casey’s “Homer Simpson” moments
    Posted on April 7th, 2010 by JWG

    bulls eye!!! ::monkeywine2::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Sassycat on April 07, 2010, 12:45:54 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 
    My guess is no I think they have more than enough to put her away forever, poor KC she is so misguided ........being sarcastic of course.  ::MonkeyTongue::

     ::HelloKitty::     ::MonkeyHaHa::     I think they have enough to convict her - but I still wonder if the State would consider saving the money if they could reach a deal.   I guess we'll find out eventually.    ::MonkeyGavel::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 12:49:15 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 
    Great question, I'm going to say no, but what do I know. I believe it would be LWOP.

    Then I don't think KC will take a plea.   I think she would rather take her chances, roll the dice, and go for broke.    IDK - maybe it is just me - but if I had to spend the rest of my life in prison, I would rather take the DP and get it over with.   And you have to remember, KC thinks God is on her side.    ::MonkeyRoll::

    The State would save millions by offering a deal to her.  But I have a feeling she wouldn't take a deal unless it was for less than LWOP.   jmo.

    Remember this......  http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/10/ng.01.html
    GRACE: To Kathi Belich with WFTV, joining us from Orlando, Florida. Kathi, her exact words are, and I am quoting the tot mom, "The state is mad because I won`t take a plea deal. They`re angry. " Explain. Is there a deal on the table?

    KATHI BELICH, WFTV: That`s what she says. What I am being told is that there has never been any kind of plea offer in this case. The only thing that did happen -- we`ve all reported it -- last year there, was a limited-time offer for limited immunity. If she would tell investigator where is the body was, they wouldn`t use her own words against her. But that was not a guarantee she wouldn`t be prosecuted if they could...

    GRACE: Well, hold on...

    BELICH: ... independently corroborate...

    GRACE: ... just a moment. Kathi Belich joining me there in Orlando. She`s from WFTV, on the story from the very beginning.

    Let`s unleash the lawyers. We`re taking your calls live. Susan Moss, child advocate out of New York, Raymond Giudice, defense attorney in Atlanta, Mickey Sherman, renowned trial lawyer, defense attorney out of New York, author of "How Can You Defend Those People?"

    Sue Moss, this is signed, is sworn and signed, this document. It had to be filed by her attorney. She can`t get out of jail and go file it in the courthouse herself. So she says in this document, this sworn affidavit, filed by her lawyer, Ashton, the prosecutor is "angry because I refuse to take a plea agreement for a crime I did not commit."

    Now, why would the lawyer submit something that is false? Sue?

    SUSAN MOSS, FAMILY LAW ATTORNEY: A plea deal, if real, would be a steal. You know something? I agree with you. I don`t know too many lawyers who would submit some sort of perjured statement to a court. But Casey is special. I think she was lying, and that certainly isn`t beneath her.

    I don't think she will ever admit she is guilty either Sassy.   ::MonkeyCool::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: akmom on April 07, 2010, 12:49:37 PM
    Putting aside all of Casey's drivel I still think there is a connection with the Anthony's backyard.

    The dogs hit on decomp in the backyard.
    Out of the blue on July 4th GA and CA pour a new concrete slab, 27 bags of concrete(?)
    OCSO took a large area rug from the backporch
    The infamous "gas can incident"
    The freezers in the garage  (Puzzler, I believe you are correct)
    George knew early on and George helped cover up

    Why is George, at the very least, not in jail and charged with obstruction? 

    Also, since Bozo is not DP qualified that is why Lyons and/or Jar are on board.  If that is the case, how could any verdict be overturned due to Bozo's utter incompetence?  Does the defense and litigation ultimately lie in the hands of Lyons and/or Jar.  Isn't Bozo really nothing more than a mouthpiece for the defense?

    The fact that Casey has not one but two death penalty qualified attorneys as well as Boden on board & for the record as of this moment Lyons is listed technically as lead counsel Casey does not stand a chance of making an argument of ineffective counsel....she's been afforded a heck of a lot more than most defendants, even facing her charges.

    Thanks Capp, that was what I was thinking, or at least hoping.

    I know, but do not have the exact document, that there was also "weed barrier" plastic found near Caylee.  I believe that this will be traced back to the weed barrier in the Anthony's back yard.  I also see in the documents released yesterday, page 36 property report, reference to other pieces of black plastic within the garbage bags.  I am wondering if this is weed barrier also.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 12:53:05 PM
    http://www.wesh.com/news/23077865/detail.html
    Letters Could Alter Anthony's Murder Trial
    Jail Letters Provide Peek At Anthony's Life Behind Bars

    POSTED: 11:13 am EDT April 7, 2010
    UPDATED: 12:15 pm EDT April 7, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. --
    Jailhouse letters written by Casey Anthony not only provide a new peek at her life behind bars. They also could greatly alter her murder trial.

    Defense attorney Richard Hornsby said the biggest shocker in the letters were Anthony's claims that she was sexually abused by her brother, Lee Anthony, and her father, George Anthony.

    Hornsby said if Casey Anthony sticks to they story, they could face charges.

    Horsnby also said if she's convicted of killing her daughter, Caylee Anthony, Casey Anthony's claims that she was abused could save her own life.

    "That is huge. If a jury were to hear that, it's almost impossible a jury would ever impose a death penalty on her -- if that was true," Hornsby said.
    In a written response to Casey Anthony's claim of sexual abuse, attorney Brad Conway said, "the Anthony family denies that there was any improper sexual behavior in their family nor was there ever a time when Casey told them of sexually inappropriate conduct by her brother or father."

    The other explosive revelation was Casey Anthony's jailhouse confidant telling investigators Anthony talked about using chloroform to knock out Caylee.

    Hornsby said the biggest pitfall for prosecutors is Casey didn't write it, so credibility becomes a problem.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 07, 2010, 12:53:22 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 

    Who is saying could have gotten 8 years, and based on what - a reduction to manslaughter, maybe so.   To your second question, I doubt sincerely that the State would accept anything less than LWOP plea due to the fact that I have always believed that they are very confident they have enough to get a murder one conviction after the jury hears all the evidence & too much time has lapsed.  The defense has claimed her to be innocent & did not even attempt to establish diminished capacity or an offer for Casey to report where Caylee could be found, this case is way too big now for the State to be willing to accept a plea that the defense offers now at the 11th hour - the public outcry would be fierce.

    I was the one who brought up 8 years. I researched it in the beginning and if she had plead it out then for the location of the body I think they could have gone with excusable homicide even if the state would not have accepted manslaughter. If she had been sentenced to 20 years on it with good time and time served she would have been out in about 8 years. Manslaughter would have been even less. That would have been the best for the client but of course we all know that Bozo was not smart enough to do that.

    782.03  Excusable homicide.--Homicide is excusable when committed by accident and misfortune in doing any lawful act by lawful means with usual ordinary caution, and without any unlawful intent, or by accident and misfortune in the heat of passion, upon any sudden and sufficient provocation, or upon a sudden combat, without any dangerous weapon being used and not done in a cruel or unusual manner.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Sassycat on April 07, 2010, 12:54:12 PM
    Thanks Trimm.   You're always so quick!         ::MonkeyCool::

    We all appreciate you.    ::MonkeyKiss::



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 12:54:48 PM

    I just took a break from reading and that was one of the things I read - I could not believe it - she is a movie star and a law professional etc......what blows my mind is how she is giving herself permission to move forward (because that is what God told her to do)  which in essence means she is giving herself permission to forget what she did to Caylee - it has no relevance in her mind - what's done is done.... time to move on. Seriously????  She is freaking nuts.  I can't even put into words how nuts she is.
    [/quote]

    the more I read, the more convinced I am that she has no touch with reality at all..... ::MonkeyNoNo::she lives in her own world of make believe..........she will do just fine in prison...in fact, I believe she will thrive in her little make believe world.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Nut44x4 on April 07, 2010, 12:56:04 PM
     Excusable homicide doesn't include drugging your kid so they will sleep, then end up dead from an OD ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 12:56:42 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 
    Great question, I'm going to say no, but what do I know. I believe it would be LWOP.

    Then I don't think KC will take a plea.   I think she would rather take her chances, roll the dice, and go for broke.    IDK - maybe it is just me - but if I had to spend the rest of my life in prison, I would rather take the DP and get it over with.   And you have to remember, KC thinks God is on her side.    ::MonkeyRoll::

    The State would save millions by offering a deal to her.  But I have a feeling she wouldn't take a deal unless it was for less than LWOP.   jmo.

    Remember this......  http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/10/ng.01.html
    GRACE: To Kathi Belich with WFTV, joining us from Orlando, Florida. Kathi, her exact words are, and I am quoting the tot mom, "The state is mad because I won`t take a plea deal. They`re angry. " Explain. Is there a deal on the table?

    KATHI BELICH, WFTV: That`s what she says. What I am being told is that there has never been any kind of plea offer in this case. The only thing that did happen -- we`ve all reported it -- last year there, was a limited-time offer for limited immunity. If she would tell investigator where is the body was, they wouldn`t use her own words against her. But that was not a guarantee she wouldn`t be prosecuted if they could...

    GRACE: Well, hold on...

    BELICH: ... independently corroborate...

    GRACE: ... just a moment. Kathi Belich joining me there in Orlando. She`s from WFTV, on the story from the very beginning.

    Let`s unleash the lawyers. We`re taking your calls live. Susan Moss, child advocate out of New York, Raymond Giudice, defense attorney in Atlanta, Mickey Sherman, renowned trial lawyer, defense attorney out of New York, author of "How Can You Defend Those People?"

    Sue Moss, this is signed, is sworn and signed, this document. It had to be filed by her attorney. She can`t get out of jail and go file it in the courthouse herself. So she says in this document, this sworn affidavit, filed by her lawyer, Ashton, the prosecutor is "angry because I refuse to take a plea agreement for a crime I did not commit."

    Now, why would the lawyer submit something that is false? Sue?

    SUSAN MOSS, FAMILY LAW ATTORNEY: A plea deal, if real, would be a steal. You know something? I agree with you. I don`t know too many lawyers who would submit some sort of perjured statement to a court. But Casey is special. I think she was lying, and that certainly isn`t beneath her.

    I don't think she will ever admit she is guilty either Sassy.   ::MonkeyCool::

    Tks Trimm...the bold is indeed the only offer & to finish what Kathi was going to say on NG was that other evidence besides Casey's own words regarding where she placed Caylee would be used as evidence against her but what she would have told them on this limited issue could not be used.   As of Dec 11th, all bets were off & it is IMHO they will not revisit it.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 12:57:21 PM
    It's wonderful that Jesse Grund escaped marrying into that family.

    It sure is....but he will carry the stigma of Casey for many years to come........


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 12:58:01 PM
    http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/07/casey.anthony.letters/
    Inmates: Mom said she 'knocked out' Caylee with drugs
    By Ann O'Neill and Mayra Cuevas-Nazario, CNN/In Session
    April 7, 2010 12:18 p.m. EDT
    <snipped>
    Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, has said he did not oppose the release of the letters because they contained nothing incriminating. The defense team elaborated on his comments in a statement released late Tuesday.

    The letters "reflect the natural desire for companionship when isolated for 23 hours a day, and clearly demonstrate Casey's unconditional love for her daughter Caylee," the statement said. "Despite these intentions, it is obvious in the letters authored by Robyn Adams that her sole purpose and only goal in corresponding with Casey Anthony was to create 'leverage to get out of prison early.'"

    Adams gave her letters from Anthony to another friend, Tracey Neally, for safekeeping, according to the investigative reports. In her correspondence with Neally, Adams suggests the letters and notes might someday be worth something or lead to an appearance on "The Oprah Winfrey Show."
    <snipped>


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: akmom on April 07, 2010, 12:58:26 PM
    Also on the property reports I see references to pill bottles.  I remember they took many from
    Cindy's medicine cabinet.  I wonder if testing shows Casey's prints on mommies medicines??????  I am also very confused that at the bottom of the property report on page 40 I believe it says:

    This evidence packaging contains secondary evidence from more than 1 case(as listed).  What in the world does that mean??????


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 01:00:00 PM
    Putting aside all of Casey's drivel I still think there is a connection with the Anthony's backyard.

    The dogs hit on decomp in the backyard.
    Out of the blue on July 4th GA and CA pour a new concrete slab, 27 bags of concrete(?)
    OCSO took a large area rug from the backporch
    The infamous "gas can incident"
    The freezers in the garage  (Puzzler, I believe you are correct)
    George knew early on and George helped cover up

    Why is George, at the very least, not in jail and charged with obstruction? 

    Also, since Bozo is not DP qualified that is why Lyons and/or Jar are on board.  If that is the case, how could any verdict be overturned due to Bozo's utter incompetence?  Does the defense and litigation ultimately lie in the hands of Lyons and/or Jar.  Isn't Bozo really nothing more than a mouthpiece for the defense?

    hi Mike.....all great points.  I agree, at this point BOZO is just there.....it's in Mason's hands now.  JMO


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 01:00:04 PM

    I just took a break from reading and that was one of the things I read - I could not believe it - she is a movie star and a law professional etc......what blows my mind is how she is giving herself permission to move forward (because that is what God told her to do)  which in essence means she is giving herself permission to forget what she did to Caylee - it has no relevance in her mind - what's done is done.... time to move on. Seriously????  She is freaking nuts.  I can't even put into words how nuts she is.

    the more I read, the more convinced I am that she has no touch with reality at all..... ::MonkeyNoNo::she lives in her own world of make believe..........she will do just fine in prison...in fact, I believe she will thrive in her little make believe world.
    [/quote]I agree she will thrive and I will bet money she has been in her little make believe world for a very long time.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Sassycat on April 07, 2010, 01:00:48 PM
    Thanks Turbo.    ::MonkeyCool::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 01:01:26 PM
    http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/07/casey.anthony.letters/
    Inmates: Mom said she 'knocked out' Caylee with drugs
    By Ann O'Neill and Mayra Cuevas-Nazario, CNN/In Session
    April 7, 2010 12:18 p.m. EDT
    <snipped>
    Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, has said he did not oppose the release of the letters because they contained nothing incriminating. The defense team elaborated on his comments in a statement released late Tuesday.

    The letters "reflect the natural desire for companionship when isolated for 23 hours a day, and clearly demonstrate Casey's unconditional love for her daughter Caylee," the statement said. "Despite these intentions, it is obvious in the letters authored by Robyn Adams that her sole purpose and only goal in corresponding with Casey Anthony was to create 'leverage to get out of prison early.'"

    Adams gave her letters from Anthony to another friend, Tracey Neally, for safekeeping, according to the investigative reports. In her correspondence with Neally, Adams suggests the letters and notes might someday be worth something or lead to an appearance on "The Oprah Winfrey Show."
    <snipped>
    I was reading that she gave Caylee antihistamines to sleep, I think it was in Adams interview, but it is all running together for me.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 01:04:40 PM
    http://www.wesh.com/news/23078600/detail.html
    Anthony Letters Exchanged In Books
    Inmate Says She Visited Anthony

    POSTED: 12:21 pm EDT April 7, 2010
    UPDATED: 12:55 pm EDT April 7, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. --
    Letters written between Casey Anthony and another jail inmate indicated the two were able to exchange their writings through a library.

    The letters were written between Anthony and inmate Robyn Adams. Adams talked with investigators and a friend of hers at length about the specifics behind the transfers.

    Although Adams and Anthony agreed to flush each other's letters after reading them, Adams kept Anthony's letters and mailed them to a friend.

    In a letter addressed to her friend outside the jail, Adams wrote of their plan.
    "I've been allowed to secretly come out really late at night to have one-on-one talks with Casey Anthony, around 3 a.m., when everyone else is sleeping," Adams wrote.

    Adams said Correctional Officer Silvia Hernandez was the only person who would let them talk. She also talked about how books from the jail library were used to keep the correspondence going.

    "One recommendation before I close this off for today. Read 'God in Popular Culture' by Andrew M. Greenly. I think I will slide the next note in there," Anthony wrote.

    In another note, Anthony indicated the letters led her to a good book.

    "The book I put this note in is actually pretty good. It's filled with old Southern humor. I honestly laughed throughout most of it," Anthony wrote.

    The letters eventually came to light when another Orange County inmate revealed the jailhouse friendship.

    The Orange County Jail still has an open investigation looking into the letters. One corrections officer was suspended with pay as part of the investigation.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 01:10:43 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 

    Who is saying could have gotten 8 years, and based on what - a reduction to manslaughter, maybe so.   To your second question, I doubt sincerely that the State would accept anything less than LWOP plea due to the fact that I have always believed that they are very confident they have enough to get a murder one conviction after the jury hears all the evidence & too much time has lapsed.  The defense has claimed her to be innocent & did not even attempt to establish diminished capacity or an offer for Casey to report where Caylee could be found, this case is way too big now for the State to be willing to accept a plea that the defense offers now at the 11th hour - the public outcry would be fierce.

    Considering how every state is hurting for money, it wouldn't surprise me a bit if the State of Florida considers saving millions of tax payers dollars and making a deal.   Especially if the deal put her sorry azz in prison for a long, long time.    I also have a feeling the public would be happy NOT to have their tax dollars going to this murderer's defense fund/trial.
    I agree

    Ditto!!!!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 01:12:28 PM
    http://www.wesh.com/news/23077865/detail.html
    Letters Could Alter Anthony's Murder Trial
    Jail Letters Provide Peek At Anthony's Life Behind Bars

    POSTED: 11:13 am EDT April 7, 2010
    UPDATED: 12:15 pm EDT April 7, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. --
    Jailhouse letters written by Casey Anthony not only provide a new peek at her life behind bars. They also could greatly alter her murder trial.

    Defense attorney Richard Hornsby said the biggest shocker in the letters were Anthony's claims that she was sexually abused by her brother, Lee Anthony, and her father, George Anthony.

    Hornsby said if Casey Anthony sticks to they story, they could face charges.

    Horsnby also said if she's convicted of killing her daughter, Caylee Anthony, Casey Anthony's claims that she was abused could save her own life.

    "That is huge. If a jury were to hear that, it's almost impossible a jury would ever impose a death penalty on her -- if that was true," Hornsby said.
    In a written response to Casey Anthony's claim of sexual abuse, attorney Brad Conway said, "the Anthony family denies that there was any improper sexual behavior in their family nor was there ever a time when Casey told them of sexually inappropriate conduct by her brother or father."

    The other explosive revelation was Casey Anthony's jailhouse confidant telling investigators Anthony talked about using chloroform to knock out Caylee.

    Hornsby said the biggest pitfall for prosecutors is Casey didn't write it, so credibility becomes a problem.

    HORNSBY, it is NOT huge in favor of Casey unless Casey can prove as she stated that she sought medical attention for her alleged abuse & while I agree some of her sob stories may attribute to her life being spared by sentence I think it is ridiculous for a legal professional to assume that a jury would not doubt what Casey is claiming with no proof whatsoever to back up her story before leaping to the conclusion that it would the very reason why it woluld be "almost impossible" for a jury to impose the DP on her upon conviction.   Just because she says so, doesnt make it so from a known pathological liar - it sure as heck didnt help the Menendez Bros, for example.   For many that have been truly victimized sexually, mentally or physically that does not necessarily excuse why one would kill another, especially not when premeditation is established. 

    I do agree that a hurdle to overcome about the chloroform comments Casey reported made to an inmate(s) will be put to the test because their credibility is in question, the only upside is if it was told to more than one inmate (as it appears) on different occasions & it can be established that those two or more inmates did not confer with each other about what was said to them separately by Casey.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Monkey with Class on April 07, 2010, 01:16:21 PM
    I really do not think Bozo is playing stupid.  "Playing the system". 

    In the beginning, he was so proud to be the first of his race to take on such a big case.Gee.  Think again Bozo....  He would not play stupid and humilate his race intentionally. He is too strong minded and into himself. 

    In short....  This is his normal stupid, without a clue actions....  In the end, he will be disbarred and the one made a fool.  Guaranteed!!!!

    And it has nothing to do with race..  Stupidity being the reason.  No offense to the Walmart Greeters out there, but this should have been is profession.

    Vent over....Thx


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 01:18:23 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 

    Who is saying could have gotten 8 years, and based on what - a reduction to manslaughter, maybe so.   To your second question, I doubt sincerely that the State would accept anything less than LWOP plea due to the fact that I have always believed that they are very confident they have enough to get a murder one conviction after the jury hears all the evidence & too much time has lapsed.  The defense has claimed her to be innocent & did not even attempt to establish diminished capacity or an offer for Casey to report where Caylee could be found, this case is way too big now for the State to be willing to accept a plea that the defense offers now at the 11th hour - the public outcry would be fierce.

    I was the one who brought up 8 years. I researched it in the beginning and if she had plead it out then for the location of the body I think they could have gone with excusable homicide even if the state would not have accepted manslaughter. If she had been sentenced to 20 years on it with good time and time served she would have been out in about 8 years. Manslaughter would have been even less. That would have been the best for the client but of course we all know that Bozo was not smart enough to do that.

    782.03  Excusable homicide.--Homicide is excusable when committed by accident and misfortune in doing any lawful act by lawful means with usual ordinary caution, and without any unlawful intent, or by accident and misfortune in the heat of passion, upon any sudden and sufficient provocation, or upon a sudden combat, without any dangerous weapon being used and not done in a cruel or unusual manner.

    Gotcha,  but it would not have been excusable homicide at all because giving a child a toxic substance has a child abuse attachment.   There is no excuse to give a toddler a toxic substance, one that isnt available in hospitals, clinics, labs any longer so I dont know how they would justify that plea.    Had they even considered that level of plea I would have been down there myself upsiding a few heads!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 07, 2010, 01:23:28 PM
    http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/07/casey.anthony.letters/
    Inmates: Mom said she 'knocked out' Caylee with drugs
    By Ann O'Neill and Mayra Cuevas-Nazario, CNN/In Session
    April 7, 2010 12:18 p.m. EDT
    <snipped>
    Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, has said he did not oppose the release of the letters because they contained nothing incriminating. The defense team elaborated on his comments in a statement released late Tuesday.

    The letters "reflect the natural desire for companionship when isolated for 23 hours a day, and clearly demonstrate Casey's unconditional love for her daughter Caylee," the statement said. "Despite these intentions, it is obvious in the letters authored by Robyn Adams that her sole purpose and only goal in corresponding with Casey Anthony was to create 'leverage to get out of prison early.'"

    Adams gave her letters from Anthony to another friend, Tracey Neally, for safekeeping, according to the investigative reports. In her correspondence with Neally, Adams suggests the letters and notes might someday be worth something or lead to an appearance on "The Oprah Winfrey Show."
    <snipped>
    I was reading that she gave Caylee antihistamines to sleep, I think it was in Adams interview, but it is all running together for me.

    Yes, antihistimines.   IMO, from many of those pictures we've seen, Caylee looked like she had been getting a steady dose.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 07, 2010, 01:23:35 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 
    My guess is no I think they have more than enough to put her away forever, poor KC she is so misguided ........being sarcastic of course.  ::MonkeyTongue::

     ::HelloKitty::     ::MonkeyHaHa::     I think they have enough to convict her - but I still wonder if the State would consider saving the money if they could reach a deal.   I guess we'll find out eventually.    ::MonkeyGavel::
    This is true Sass I wasn't thinking about the money you are right it might play a role. Or it might be best to do this  ::MonkeyHang:: and get it over with but that costs a lot too.....either way I think it is safe to say KC's life is over as she once knew it. 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 07, 2010, 01:25:28 PM

    I just took a break from reading and that was one of the things I read - I could not believe it - she is a movie star and a law professional etc......what blows my mind is how she is giving herself permission to move forward (because that is what God told her to do)  which in essence means she is giving herself permission to forget what she did to Caylee - it has no relevance in her mind - what's done is done.... time to move on. Seriously????  She is freaking nuts.  I can't even put into words how nuts she is.

    the more I read, the more convinced I am that she has no touch with reality at all..... ::MonkeyNoNo::she lives in her own world of make believe..........she will do just fine in prison...in fact, I believe she will thrive in her little make believe world.
    [/quote]Sunny you took the original thoughts right out of my head, she will thrive just fine in there, and imagine the pen pal possibilities  ::MonkeyTongue::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 07, 2010, 01:27:03 PM
    Oh yikes I don't know what happened there Sunny so I will repost.

    Sunny you took the original thoughts right out of my head, she will thrive just fine in there, and imagine the pen pal possibilities


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 01:31:59 PM
    Putting aside all of Casey's drivel I still think there is a connection with the Anthony's backyard.

    The dogs hit on decomp in the backyard.
    Out of the blue on July 4th GA and CA pour a new concrete slab, 27 bags of concrete(?)
    OCSO took a large area rug from the backporch
    The infamous "gas can incident"
    The freezers in the garage  (Puzzler, I believe you are correct)
    George knew early on and George helped cover up

    Why is George, at the very least, not in jail and charged with obstruction? 

    Also, since Bozo is not DP qualified that is why Lyons and/or Jar are on board.  If that is the case, how could any verdict be overturned due to Bozo's utter incompetence?  Does the defense and litigation ultimately lie in the hands of Lyons and/or Jar.  Isn't Bozo really nothing more than a mouthpiece for the defense?

    hi Mike.....all great points.  I agree, at this point BOZO is just there.....it's in Mason's hands now.  JMO

    IMHO Casey killed Caylee & returned to the house to gather the very items we now see in evidence to not only prepare her to be discarded (God that is so painful to say) but I've also had wavering thoughts that Casey was consciously thinking about framing her mother for the murder but it got "foiled" thus the nanny she often previously used to cover up her lies became her alibi.  I do not think that someone helped her move Caylee after the fact for two reasons 1) the heart shaped sticker 2) the proximity to the house - not even George, Lee or Cindy would have been stupid enough to commit this crime so close to their house.  If one looks at child murders by parents, it is common that the parent buries the child close to home.   I totally believe that this monster drugged her daughter on several occasions so she could go out, problem is I wish there was solid evidence versus hearsay that would prove that.    To this day I still believe that Casey's motive was first and foremost to spite her mother with her what would have been new found freedom as a secondary motive.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 01:32:48 PM
    http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/casey-anthony-is-statement-about-baby-blanket-and-garbage-bag-key.html
    Casey Anthony: Is statement about baby blanket and garbage bag key?
    Caylee and Casey Anthony, WESH, WFTV, WKMG — posted by halboedeker on April, 7 2010 1:09 PM
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    Casey Anthony’s friendship with a jail inmate drew stations’ scrutiny at noon today.

    WESH-Channel 2, WKMG-Channel 6 and WFTV-Channel 9 focused on one strand of the voluminous  information released Tuesday: Convicted drug deal Robyn Adams told investigators that Anthony said a child’s remains were found with a baby blanket inside a black garbage bag.

    Casey made the statement “long before that information was made public,” WKMG’s Tony Pipitone reported.

    WFTV anchor Greg Warmoth called Adams’ statement “a major bombshell”  because ”Casey knew something only the killer and investigators would know about Caylee’s murder.”

    WESH’s Bob Kealing reported: “Before Caylee was positively identified, it was the only time Adams said she saw Casey really depressed and very scared.”

    Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

    The stations studied Anthony’s supposed reactions to a false report about bones being found at Blanchard Park.

    Adams said Anthony giggled over that report, Kealing reported.

    Pipitone focused on Adams’ comment that Anthony said: “They’re not looking in the right place. It’s right in their face.”

    A month later, the toddler’s bones were found in the woods near the Anthony home.

    The stations had concentrated on Anthony’s letters yesterday, but turned to Adams’ comments today.

    Anthony’s defense team has dismissed Adams’ comments as a way to get out of prison early. (WFTV noted that investigators say another inmate approached them and told them about the letters.)
    A defense spokeswoman issued a statement that Anthony’s letters “do not contain a single reference to chloroform or any admissions of guilt.” The statement adds that Anthony maintains her innocence.

    WESH-Channel 2’s Jeff Lennox described how Anthony could exchange letters with Adams.

    Here’s what Lennox highlighted:

    ***The women had agreed to flush their writings, but Adams sent Anthony’s letters to a friend outside the jail.

    ***In a letter to a friend, Adams revealed that she had secret meetings with  Anthony at 3 a.m. in the Orange County Jail.  Jail officer Silvia Hernandez  made those meetings possible, Adams wrote. Hernandez has been suspended as the jail continues an investigation.

    ***Adams and Anthony exchanged letters by planting them in library books — and turned book critics about what they were reading.

    WFTV highlighted that Casey, in a letter, revealed that Caylee’s father was named Eric and he lived in Kentucky. The Anthony family has said that the father died in a car accident, Warmoth said.

    WFTV highlighted that in a letter to a friend, Adams said of Anthony, “I can see by her notes that she is not really all together up there.”


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 07, 2010, 01:37:41 PM
    http://www.wesh.com/news/23077865/detail.html
    Letters Could Alter Anthony's Murder Trial
    Jail Letters Provide Peek At Anthony's Life Behind Bars

    POSTED: 11:13 am EDT April 7, 2010
    UPDATED: 12:15 pm EDT April 7, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. --
    Jailhouse letters written by Casey Anthony not only provide a new peek at her life behind bars. They also could greatly alter her murder trial.

    Defense attorney Richard Hornsby said the biggest shocker in the letters were Anthony's claims that she was sexually abused by her brother, Lee Anthony, and her father, George Anthony.

    Hornsby said if Casey Anthony sticks to they story, they could face charges.

    Horsnby also said if she's convicted of killing her daughter, Caylee Anthony, Casey Anthony's claims that she was abused could save her own life.

    "That is huge. If a jury were to hear that, it's almost impossible a jury would ever impose a death penalty on her -- if that was true," Hornsby said.
    In a written response to Casey Anthony's claim of sexual abuse, attorney Brad Conway said, "the Anthony family denies that there was any improper sexual behavior in their family nor was there ever a time when Casey told them of sexually inappropriate conduct by her brother or father."

    The other explosive revelation was Casey Anthony's jailhouse confidant telling investigators Anthony talked about using chloroform to knock out Caylee.

    Hornsby said the biggest pitfall for prosecutors is Casey didn't write it, so credibility becomes a problem.

    I disagree with Hornsby's opinion in regards to a jury sparing Casey's life due to [ claimed ] sexual abuse by her family members.   When a helpless child is murdered-- I do not know of anyone who takes that type of heinous betrayal lightly.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Sassycat on April 07, 2010, 01:38:33 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 
    My guess is no I think they have more than enough to put her away forever, poor KC she is so misguided ........being sarcastic of course.  ::MonkeyTongue::

     ::HelloKitty::     ::MonkeyHaHa::     I think they have enough to convict her - but I still wonder if the State would consider saving the money if they could reach a deal.   I guess we'll find out eventually.    ::MonkeyGavel::
    This is true Sass I wasn't thinking about the money you are right it might play a role. Or it might be best to do this  ::MonkeyHang:: and get it over with but that costs a lot too.....either way I think it is safe to say KC's life is over as she once knew it. 

    Yep - her "beautiful life" is over for sure, especially when she gets to the Big Pen!   She needs to be thrown in GP and see how she likes that!   


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: akmom on April 07, 2010, 01:45:09 PM
    Also on the property reports I see references to pill bottles.  I remember they took many from
    Cindy's medicine cabinet.  I wonder if testing shows Casey's prints on mommies medicines??????  I am also very confused that at the bottom of the property report on page 40 I believe it says:

    This evidence packaging contains secondary evidence from more than 1 case(as listed).  What in the world does that mean??????

    Sorry to bump my own post but does anyone understand why this report indicates that there is evidence for more than 1 case?  What other case?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 01:45:54 PM
    Ono,I agree.    ::MonkeyCool::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 01:48:20 PM
    Akmom,I do not know.   ::MonkeyEek::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: akmom on April 07, 2010, 01:48:47 PM
    Interesting that Krystal(River) states:

    "He said it was an accident.  That went wrong.....etc.  andhe just tried to cover it up."
    Bold by me


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 01:50:08 PM
    Also on the property reports I see references to pill bottles.  I remember they took many from
    Cindy's medicine cabinet.  I wonder if testing shows Casey's prints on mommies medicines??????  I am also very confused that at the bottom of the property report on page 40 I believe it says:

    This evidence packaging contains secondary evidence from more than 1 case(as listed).  What in the world does that mean??????

    Sorry to bump my own post but does anyone understand why this report indicates that there is evidence for more than 1 case?  What other case?

    Can you give a page or link to what you are reading...not sure but Id like to see what you are referencing


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 01:50:47 PM
    I really do not think Bozo is playing stupid.  "Playing the system". 

    In the beginning, he was so proud to be the first of his race to take on such a big case.Gee.  Think again Bozo....  He would not play stupid and humilate his race intentionally. He is too strong minded and into himself. 

    In short....  This is his normal stupid, without a clue actions....  In the end, he will be disbarred and the one made a fool.  Guaranteed!!!!

    And it has nothing to do with race..  Stupidity being the reason.  No offense to the Walmart Greeters out there, but this should have been is profession.

    Vent over....Thx

    MwC...you must mean he is doing what comes naturally!! ::MonkeyDevil:: 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 01:51:47 PM
    Interesting that Krystal(River) states:

    "He said it was an accident.  That went wrong.....etc.  andhe just tried to cover it up."
    Bold by me
    Her interview was the best thing in all that was released imo. She said a lot of very interesting things.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 01:52:08 PM
    http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/07/casey.anthony.letters/
    Inmates: Mom said she 'knocked out' Caylee with drugs
    By Ann O'Neill and Mayra Cuevas-Nazario, CNN/In Session
    April 7, 2010 12:18 p.m. EDT
    <snipped>
    Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, has said he did not oppose the release of the letters because they contained nothing incriminating. The defense team elaborated on his comments in a statement released late Tuesday.

    The letters "reflect the natural desire for companionship when isolated for 23 hours a day, and clearly demonstrate Casey's unconditional love for her daughter Caylee," the statement said. "Despite these intentions, it is obvious in the letters authored by Robyn Adams that her sole purpose and only goal in corresponding with Casey Anthony was to create 'leverage to get out of prison early.'"

    Adams gave her letters from Anthony to another friend, Tracey Neally, for safekeeping, according to the investigative reports. In her correspondence with Neally, Adams suggests the letters and notes might someday be worth something or lead to an appearance on "The Oprah Winfrey Show."
    <snipped>
    I was reading that she gave Caylee antihistamines to sleep, I think it was in Adams interview, but it is all running together for me.

    Yes, antihistimines.   IMO, from many of those pictures we've seen, Caylee looked like she had been getting a steady dose.

    I agree....and for the love of all that's holy......sin-sin is a nurse, one would have thought she might have noticed something ::MonkeyMad::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: akmom on April 07, 2010, 01:52:30 PM
    Akmom,I do not know.   ::MonkeyEek::

    Thanks Trimm, I always seem to find these seemingly obscure things that just nag at me that I cannot explain


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 01:52:55 PM
    Interesting that Krystal(River) states:

    "He said it was an accident.  That went wrong.....etc.  andhe just tried to cover it up."
    Bold by me

    I absolutely believe that to be accurate that her entire family have been trying to cover up her crime but I do not think it includes helping dispose.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: akmom on April 07, 2010, 01:57:01 PM
    Also on the property reports I see references to pill bottles.  I remember they took many from
    Cindy's medicine cabinet.  I wonder if testing shows Casey's prints on mommies medicines??????  I am also very confused that at the bottom of the property report on page 40 I believe it says:

    This evidence packaging contains secondary evidence from more than 1 case(as listed).  What in the world does that mean??????

    Sorry to bump my own post but does anyone understand why this report indicates that there is evidence for more than 1 case?  What other case?

    Can you give a page or link to what you are reading...not sure but Id like to see what you are referencing

    Sorry Capp, I said page 40 but was not specific enough, I am always guilty of that  Page 40 on the second set of docs released yesterday.  It is the Sheriff's property report, down towards the bottom of the page.  At first I didn't pay much attention because I thought they were old docs, but they are dated 1/14/10.  I think it is all the remaining property we may not have seen returned back from FBI etc to OSCO


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 01:57:22 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 

    Who is saying could have gotten 8 years, and based on what - a reduction to manslaughter, maybe so.   To your second question, I doubt sincerely that the State would accept anything less than LWOP plea due to the fact that I have always believed that they are very confident they have enough to get a murder one conviction after the jury hears all the evidence & too much time has lapsed.  The defense has claimed her to be innocent & did not even attempt to establish diminished capacity or an offer for Casey to report where Caylee could be found, this case is way too big now for the State to be willing to accept a plea that the defense offers now at the 11th hour - the public outcry would be fierce.

    I was the one who brought up 8 years. I researched it in the beginning and if she had plead it out then for the location of the body I think they could have gone with excusable homicide even if the state would not have accepted manslaughter. If she had been sentenced to 20 years on it with good time and time served she would have been out in about 8 years. Manslaughter would have been even less. That would have been the best for the client but of course we all know that Bozo was not smart enough to do that.

    782.03  Excusable homicide.--Homicide is excusable when committed by accident and misfortune in doing any lawful act by lawful means with usual ordinary caution, and without any unlawful intent, or by accident and misfortune in the heat of passion, upon any sudden and sufficient provocation, or upon a sudden combat, without any dangerous weapon being used and not done in a cruel or unusual manner.

    thanks turbo...........I agreed with you when you first brought this out and I agree with you now....

    if she had said she gave Caylee cold medicine.......and Caylee died and she panicked.....hid the body etc........some people think she might have walked away scot free......and I think that could have been a real possibility.........she had no record, all this stuff we know about her probably wouldn't have come out, she would have gotten a lot of sympathy...........she might have gotten probation had BOZO not been her attorney.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 01:58:01 PM
    Also on the property reports I see references to pill bottles.  I remember they took many from
    Cindy's medicine cabinet.  I wonder if testing shows Casey's prints on mommies medicines??????  I am also very confused that at the bottom of the property report on page 40 I believe it says:

    This evidence packaging contains secondary evidence from more than 1 case(as listed).  What in the world does that mean??????

    Sorry to bump my own post but does anyone understand why this report indicates that there is evidence for more than 1 case?  What other case?

    Can you give a page or link to what you are reading...not sure but Id like to see what you are referencing

    Sorry Capp, I said page 40 but was not specific enough, I am always guilty of that  Page 40 on the second set of docs released yesterday.  It is the Sheriff's property report, down towards the bottom of the page.  At first I didn't pay much attention because I thought they were old docs, but they are dated 1/14/10.  I think it is all the remaining property we may not have seen returned back from FBI etc to OSCO

    Tks Ill take a look.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 02:02:05 PM

    I just took a break from reading and that was one of the things I read - I could not believe it - she is a movie star and a law professional etc......what blows my mind is how she is giving herself permission to move forward (because that is what God told her to do)  which in essence means she is giving herself permission to forget what she did to Caylee - it has no relevance in her mind - what's done is done.... time to move on. Seriously????  She is freaking nuts.  I can't even put into words how nuts she is.

    the more I read, the more convinced I am that she has no touch with reality at all..... ::MonkeyNoNo::she lives in her own world of make believe..........she will do just fine in prison...in fact, I believe she will thrive in her little make believe world.

    Sunny you took the original thoughts right out of my head, she will thrive just fine in there, and imagine the pen pal possibilities  ::MonkeyTongue::
    [/quote]

    ah ha!  that made me think of something I was reading early on in the letters.....and now I have to go back and find and reread it....but I think she was talking about some letters she had gotten from what I took as admirers............ :smt078


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Monkey with Class on April 07, 2010, 02:02:07 PM
    Also on the property reports I see references to pill bottles.  I remember they took many from
    Cindy's medicine cabinet.  I wonder if testing shows Casey's prints on mommies medicines??????  I am also very confused that at the bottom of the property report on page 40 I believe it says:

    This evidence packaging contains secondary evidence from more than 1 case(as listed).  What in the world does that mean??????

    Sorry to bump my own post but does anyone understand why this report indicates that there is evidence for more than 1 case?  What other case?

    Can you give a page or link to what you are reading...not sure but Id like to see what you are referencing

    Sorry Capp, I said page 40 but was not specific enough, I am always guilty of that  Page 40 on the second set of docs released yesterday.  It is the Sheriff's property report, down towards the bottom of the page.  At first I didn't pay much attention because I thought they were old docs, but they are dated 1/14/10.  I think it is all the remaining property we may not have seen returned back from FBI etc to OSCO

    I took it as being the letters written between two inamtes that have cases still pending .  I could be mistaken though


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 02:02:55 PM
    Oh yikes I don't know what happened there Sunny so I will repost.

    Sunny you took the original thoughts right out of my head, she will thrive just fine in there, and imagine the pen pal possibilities

     ::MonkeyJnBox::Mission, I understood completely........now what does that tell you!  LOL


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 07, 2010, 02:07:40 PM
    Interesting that Krystal(River) states:

    "He said it was an accident.  That went wrong.....etc.  andhe just tried to cover it up."
    Bold by me

    Yeah---this is an interesting can of worms.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: akmom on April 07, 2010, 02:07:43 PM
    Also on the property reports I see references to pill bottles.  I remember they took many from
    Cindy's medicine cabinet.  I wonder if testing shows Casey's prints on mommies medicines??????  I am also very confused that at the bottom of the property report on page 40 I believe it says:

    This evidence packaging contains secondary evidence from more than 1 case(as listed).  What in the world does that mean??????

    Sorry to bump my own post but does anyone understand why this report indicates that there is evidence for more than 1 case?  What other case?

    Can you give a page or link to what you are reading...not sure but Id like to see what you are referencing

    Sorry Capp, I said page 40 but was not specific enough, I am always guilty of that  Page 40 on the second set of docs released yesterday.  It is the Sheriff's property report, down towards the bottom of the page.  At first I didn't pay much attention because I thought they were old docs, but they are dated 1/14/10.  I think it is all the remaining property we may not have seen returned back from FBI etc to OSCO

    I took it as being the letters written between two inamtes that have cases still pending .  I could be mistaken though

    Can't be they are talking about tubes with DNA


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 02:09:25 PM
    http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/casey-anthony-is-statement-about-baby-blanket-and-garbage-bag-key.html
    Casey Anthony: Is statement about baby blanket and garbage bag key?
    Caylee and Casey Anthony, WESH, WFTV, WKMG — posted by halboedeker on April, 7 2010 1:09 PM
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    Casey Anthony’s friendship with a jail inmate drew stations’ scrutiny at noon today.

    SNIPPED

    WFTV highlighted that in a letter to a friend, Adams said of Anthony, “I can see by her notes that she is not really all together up there.”

    I think Adams observation is right on target!! ::MonkeyCool::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 02:11:35 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 
    My guess is no I think they have more than enough to put her away forever, poor KC she is so misguided ........being sarcastic of course.  ::MonkeyTongue::

     ::HelloKitty::     ::MonkeyHaHa::     I think they have enough to convict her - but I still wonder if the State would consider saving the money if they could reach a deal.   I guess we'll find out eventually.    ::MonkeyGavel::
    This is true Sass I wasn't thinking about the money you are right it might play a role. Or it might be best to do this  ::MonkeyHang:: and get it over with but that costs a lot too.....either way I think it is safe to say KC's life is over as she once knew it. 

    Yep - her "beautiful life" is over for sure, especially when she gets to the Big Pen!   She needs to be thrown in GP and see how she likes that!   

    Hi Sassy.......you are so right on that one....GP is a must. ::MonkeyGavel::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 02:12:16 PM
    http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/casey-anthony-is-statement-about-baby-blanket-and-garbage-bag-key.html
    Casey Anthony: Is statement about baby blanket and garbage bag key?
    Caylee and Casey Anthony, WESH, WFTV, WKMG — posted by halboedeker on April, 7 2010 1:09 PM
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    Casey Anthony’s friendship with a jail inmate drew stations’ scrutiny at noon today.

    SNIPPED

    WFTV highlighted that in a letter to a friend, Adams said of Anthony, “I can see by her notes that she is not really all together up there.”

    I think Adams observation is right on target!! ::MonkeyCool::
    I agree, and I'll bet money Casey never was all together up there  ::MonkeyEek::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 02:13:16 PM
    Also on the property reports I see references to pill bottles.  I remember they took many from
    Cindy's medicine cabinet.  I wonder if testing shows Casey's prints on mommies medicines??????  I am also very confused that at the bottom of the property report on page 40 I believe it says:

    This evidence packaging contains secondary evidence from more than 1 case(as listed).  What in the world does that mean??????

    Sorry to bump my own post but does anyone understand why this report indicates that there is evidence for more than 1 case?  What other case?

    Sorry, I missed your original post............I haven't a clue what that means.  Do you have the link and perhaps we can look and see if anything jumps out???


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 02:16:36 PM
    Interesting that Krystal(River) states:

    "He said it was an accident.  That went wrong.....etc.  andhe just tried to cover it up."
    Bold by me

    I noticed that as well....River's thought process was a bit erratic at times  ::MonkeyWink:: so I wasn't sure if she meant actually he covered it up or all the lies were to cover that there was an accident


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 02:16:36 PM
    Also on the property reports I see references to pill bottles.  I remember they took many from
    Cindy's medicine cabinet.  I wonder if testing shows Casey's prints on mommies medicines??????  I am also very confused that at the bottom of the property report on page 40 I believe it says:

    This evidence packaging contains secondary evidence from more than 1 case(as listed).  What in the world does that mean??????

    Sorry to bump my own post but does anyone understand why this report indicates that there is evidence for more than 1 case?  What other case?

    Can you give a page or link to what you are reading...not sure but Id like to see what you are referencing

    Sorry Capp, I said page 40 but was not specific enough, I am always guilty of that  Page 40 on the second set of docs released yesterday.  It is the Sheriff's property report, down towards the bottom of the page.  At first I didn't pay much attention because I thought they were old docs, but they are dated 1/14/10.  I think it is all the remaining property we may not have seen returned back from FBI etc to OSCO

    Tks Ill take a look.

    Posted but had an internet hiccup so Ill try again LOL

    On that page and preceding ones many items are listed as related to DNA, I think you originally thought that it was two criminal cases but the numbers do not appear to be docket numbers so although Im not positive I believe it may be referencing two different subjects versus cases per se.   I also noticed that there are notes of what came directly from the morgue or other source.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 07, 2010, 02:24:08 PM
    Couple of things:

    She closes page 13815 with “Here’s to a brand new year and brand new beginnings!”  Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this the jist of what she put on the inside cover of her journel LE found in her room after Caylee was found?

    Also: Anthony said she informed her mother about the incidents, but that Cindy Anthony turned on her.

    Anthony also claimed she thought her father, George Anthony, did the same things to her when she was much younger. She claimed she sought help from a doctor on her own when she was 18.

    Brad Conway, the attorney for the Anthony family, said, "The Anthony family denies that there was any improper sexual behavior in their family."

    In one of Cindy's interviews with the Feds I believe, they asked her about sexual abuse and she became very quiet and said in a small voice "no.". Hmmmmm very interesting.


    I found that eerily similar & yes I do believe it goes to her frame of mind dating a few months even before Caylee was killed.     OK Casey, maybe someone will bite at this apple, what doctor?   When did you go see him?   Do you have a receipt, check or invoice exhibiting the visit?   Did you receive medication, if so where did you fill the script?   Are you going to call this doctor to the stand on your behalf to state that you visited & told that you were a victim of sexual abuse?    Im not buying it at all despite the fact that this entire family are scum.

    I am with you on this one Capp.  I am not buying that she was sexually abused by Lee or George.  She lies so much and the lies are always to gain pity, gain the confidence of the other person or an excuse for her weird behavior.  She only uses that lie when she is extremely mad at them..which she was due to the memorial service and Cindy taking it over.

    She is a user and a scam artist who is such a sociopath she has to read other people to see what lie to use to her benefit at the time.

    Oh to be a fly on the cell wall now that she knows her prison friend was almost as conniving as she was and using Casey for her own advantage.  What goes around comes around Muffin.  Your in jail girlfriend..you are there with a bunch of other liars, druggies and theives...


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 02:24:16 PM

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    MY Opinion:

    River had sex with George and in this transcript lied to police out of shame and fear.

    Maybe there is an addendum to this LE interview and River tells the whole truth?

    River personally called me 2 times on the telephone and both time stated she had sex with George and was in bed with George when George talked about the "snowball" story and the "ZFG" (story line.) (not the couch)

    IMO: River is filled with shame. River used the words "humiliated" and "shame" through out our conversations. River stated she was humiliated by George and shamed by how she let George use her......Shame about her choices......shamed of having a relationship with a married man.......etc.....River was especially concerned about how her choices where affecting her son.......I believe River  (From WS, and I think she had sex with George also, not that it matters anyway)


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    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 02:26:21 PM
    Thing is, we will never really know that George or Lee molested Casey. Her word against theirs and they are all liars  ::MonkeyNoNo::


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    Post by: akmom on April 07, 2010, 02:28:11 PM
    Also on the property reports I see references to pill bottles.  I remember they took many from
    Cindy's medicine cabinet.  I wonder if testing shows Casey's prints on mommies medicines??????  I am also very confused that at the bottom of the property report on page 40 I believe it says:

    This evidence packaging contains secondary evidence from more than 1 case(as listed).  What in the world does that mean??????

    Sorry to bump my own post but does anyone understand why this report indicates that there is evidence for more than 1 case?  What other case?

    Can you give a page or link to what you are reading...not sure but Id like to see what you are referencing

    Sorry Capp, I said page 40 but was not specific enough, I am always guilty of that  Page 40 on the second set of docs released yesterday.  It is the Sheriff's property report, down towards the bottom of the page.  At first I didn't pay much attention because I thought they were old docs, but they are dated 1/14/10.  I think it is all the remaining property we may not have seen returned back from FBI etc to OSCO

    Tks Ill take a look.

    Posted but had an internet hiccup so Ill try again LOL

    On that page and preceding ones many items are listed as related to DNA, I think you originally thought that it was two criminal cases but the numbers do not appear to be docket numbers so although Im not positive I believe it may be referencing two different subjects versus cases per se.   I also noticed that there are notes of what came directly from the morgue or other source.

    "This evidence packaging contains secondary evidence from more than 1 case(as listed). " 
    Thanks Capp, but it is still confusing because this sentence is taken directly from the bottom of page 40.  I guess I get lost in details


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Monkey with Class on April 07, 2010, 02:33:58 PM

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    MY Opinion:

    River had sex with George and in this transcript lied to police out of shame and fear.

    Maybe there is an addendum to this LE interview and River tells the whole truth?

    River personally called me 2 times on the telephone and both time stated she had sex with George and was in bed with George when George talked about the "snowball" story and the "ZFG" (story line.) (not the couch)

    IMO: River is filled with shame. River used the words "humiliated" and "shame" through out our conversations. River stated she was humiliated by George and shamed by how she let George use her......Shame about her choices......shamed of having a relationship with a married man.......etc.....River was especially concerned about how her choices where affecting her son.......I believe River  (From WS, and I think she had sex with George also, not that it matters anyway)

    As long as no reproduction of the Anthony's in the future of course....  Very odd troubled family


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    Post by: Bud's Girl on April 07, 2010, 02:39:11 PM

    This may have already been addressed, but ... on a close read in her letters about Lee rubbing her boobies & George also when she was younger, does anyone else think she worded all that very ambiguously?

    Said her brother rubbed her breasts while she slept. How would she know who was rubbing on her if she was asleep?  Could have been Cindy.  Her so-called proof that someone was rubbing on her was because her sports bra would be pulled up on her chest, or regular bra would be unhooked when she woke up.  Only thing she said she actually saw Lee do was sit on her floor & shine a flashlight on her while she slept. Didn't say he was doing anything, just sittin there with a flashlight.

    As to her dad, she said she'd been having vivid dreams and thinks he may have done the same to her at a much younger age.  Then she tried to suggest that maybe she was repressing memories.

    I'm not a Lee or George fan by long shot, but -that was all blah blah blah.








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    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 02:48:30 PM

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    MY Opinion:

    River had sex with George and in this transcript lied to police out of shame and fear.

    Maybe there is an addendum to this LE interview and River tells the whole truth?

    River personally called me 2 times on the telephone and both time stated she had sex with George and was in bed with George when George talked about the "snowball" story and the "ZFG" (story line.) (not the couch)

    IMO: River is filled with shame. River used the words "humiliated" and "shame" through out our conversations. River stated she was humiliated by George and shamed by how she let George use her......Shame about her choices......shamed of having a relationship with a married man.......etc.....River was especially concerned about how her choices where affecting her son.......I believe River  (From WS, and I think she had sex with George also, not that it matters anyway)

    I trust Chris, BB12....

    but I am not sure I trust River anymore....I did in the beginning....died she lie to the po po about her relationship with gerogieboy.......or did she lie to everyone else.


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    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 02:48:33 PM
    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-taped-interview-20100407,0,1105956.story
    Casey Anthony defense won’t get illegally recorded interview with searcher
     By Sarah Lundy, Orlando Sentinel
    2:35 p.m. EDT, April 7, 2010
    The judge in the Casey Anthony case isn't going to allow her defense team to have a taped interview of a volunteer who helped search for Anthony's daughter.

    Joe Jordan illegally recorded a conversation between an investigator with Casey Anthony's defense team, himself and his lawyer.

    In Florida, it's illegal to record someone without their knowledge. The court had previously ordered that the recording would not be used or be disclosed by anyone.

    Anthony, 24, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. The 2-year-old remains were found in woods close to her family home in December 2008.

    Volunteers claimed the area where Caylee was found was too wet at the time of their search. Jordon told the investigator that he had personally searched the area where Caylee was found but she was not there and it was dry.

    Law enforcement officials interviewed Jordon in November.

    Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland wrote in his three-page order that the defense can use Jordon's statement to the cops. His illegally recorded statement is of no more value that what he told detectives


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    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 02:51:48 PM
    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-taped-interview-20100407,0,1105956.story
    Casey Anthony defense won’t get illegally recorded interview with searcher
     By Sarah Lundy, Orlando Sentinel
    2:35 p.m. EDT, April 7, 2010
    The judge in the Casey Anthony case isn't going to allow her defense team to have a taped interview of a volunteer who helped search for Anthony's daughter.

    Joe Jordan illegally recorded a conversation between an investigator with Casey Anthony's defense team, himself and his lawyer.

    In Florida, it's illegal to record someone without their knowledge. The court had previously ordered that the recording would not be used or be disclosed by anyone.

    Anthony, 24, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. The 2-year-old remains were found in woods close to her family home in December 2008.

    Volunteers claimed the area where Caylee was found was too wet at the time of their search. Jordon told the investigator that he had personally searched the area where Caylee was found but she was not there and it was dry.

    Law enforcement officials interviewed Jordon in November.

    Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland wrote in his three-page order that the defense can use Jordon's statement to the cops. His illegally recorded statement is of no more value that what he told detectives


    thanks trim, in the midst of the madness I had forgotten about this item!!


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    Post by: N2WISHN on April 07, 2010, 02:52:48 PM
    Thing is, we will never really know that George or Lee molested Casey. Her word against theirs and they are all liars  ::MonkeyNoNo::



    I have to admit, that my first impression of KC was that of a sexually abused victim and my suspicions leaned toward GA. I may have felt that way in an effort to try and understand her behavior but at this point I still don’t know what to believe….
    I have stopped looking at most of what is in front of me as if it’s the truth being revealed. I can’t help but feel that most of these letters are not truth being revealed. What is the truth is what is going on behind what I am looking at and something is going on behind that too.
    Most of what is going on at the moment is a distraction. What is not a distraction is a prelude.  I may be cynical or paranoid but one thing I’m not going to be is gullible or naive. Parties in this latest bombshell letter and testimony release lack any semblance of credibility and have too many mysterious ties to each other to be taken at face value.


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    Post by: KCJackie on April 07, 2010, 02:54:29 PM

    This may have already been addressed, but ... on a close read in her letters about Lee rubbing her boobies & George also when she was younger, does anyone else think she worded all that very ambiguously?

    Said her brother rubbed her breasts while she slept. How would she know who was rubbing on her if she was asleep?  Could have been Cindy.  Her so-called proof that someone was rubbing on her was because her sports bra would be pulled up on her chest, or regular bra would be unhooked when she woke up.  Only thing she said she actually saw Lee do was sit on her floor & shine a flashlight on her while she slept. Didn't say he was doing anything, just sittin there with a flashlight.

    As to her dad, she said she'd been having vivid dreams and thinks he may have done the same to her at a much younger age.  Then she tried to suggest that maybe she was repressing memories.

    I'm not a Lee or George fan by long shot, but -that was all blah blah blah.




    ::lookie:: Hi BG!  My thoughts exactly!  I have only made it through half of the letters so far - I just cringe everytime she refers to herself as a celebrity. ::MonkeyDevil2::


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    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 07, 2010, 02:57:15 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 

    Who is saying could have gotten 8 years, and based on what - a reduction to manslaughter, maybe so.   To your second question, I doubt sincerely that the State would accept anything less than LWOP plea due to the fact that I have always believed that they are very confident they have enough to get a murder one conviction after the jury hears all the evidence & too much time has lapsed.  The defense has claimed her to be innocent & did not even attempt to establish diminished capacity or an offer for Casey to report where Caylee could be found, this case is way too big now for the State to be willing to accept a plea that the defense offers now at the 11th hour - the public outcry would be fierce.

    Originally in July 08 Baez  I believe was ready, willing and able to plea her out and call it a day.  He requested a plea bargain.  It was about to expire..my guess because Casey wouldn't even speak to that.  Then he requested an extention.  That too expired...probably Casey's call again.   

    I think by that point the fame and media attention was starting to kick in.  Baez probably thought he'd just ride this out and milk it for the money and fame he could pick up too. 

    Then the body was discovered..that changed everything in the team's mind..not so much in Casey's mind.   Lyon is brought on for the DP.  They need to gain their clients complete confidence to do as they tell her..hence they start bad mouthing the family and Conway...and she never speaks to them again.

    But she still is not the perfect client..and can not see the hanging tree in front of her.  In comes Mason....and they need to convince her to cop a plea.  I think this will be very hard to convince her ....this is just the first icing on the cake.   The defense knows the State has plenty of evidence and ammunition they haven't disclosed..this is the tip of the iceberg.   Now they want to be the National heros..get her to plea..and still look like they did the right thing.  It is a win/win in their minds.  Now if Casey would cooperate fully..well we'll have to wait and see.



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    Post by: BooMonkey on April 07, 2010, 03:06:11 PM
    I think the only letters Jose could have objected to were the ones Casey, herself wrote. He would have no legal say in the ones Robin wrote.

    As for getting a lighter sentence with the sexual abuse hanging out there. She would have to have some proof, otherwise every criminal in the system would throw this in their case for good measure.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


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    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 07, 2010, 03:11:53 PM
    I think the only letters Jose could have objected to were the ones Casey, herself wrote. He would have no legal say in the ones Robin wrote.

    As for getting a lighter sentence with the sexual abuse hanging out there. She would have to have some proof, otherwise every criminal in the system would throw this in their case for good measure.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Boo I completely agree.  I think at this point the defense just wants to get this over with..anyone attached to this case on the defense side comes out smelling like chit.
    Hence having the State pay for her defense due to indigency..they know they are coming to the end of the free ride.


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    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 03:13:09 PM
    Thing is, we will never really know that George or Lee molested Casey. Her word against theirs and they are all liars  ::MonkeyNoNo::



    I have to admit, that my first impression of KC was that of a sexually abused victim and my suspicions leaned toward GA. I may have felt that way in an effort to try and understand her behavior but at this point I still don’t know what to believe….
    I have stopped looking at most of what is in front of me as if it’s the truth being revealed. I can’t help but feel that most of these letters are not truth being revealed. What is the truth is what is going on behind what I am looking at and something is going on behind that too.
    Most of what is going on at the moment is a distraction. What is not a distraction is a prelude.  I may be cynical or paranoid but one thing I’m not going to be is gullible or naive. Parties in this latest bombshell letter and testimony release lack any semblance of credibility and have too many mysterious ties to each other to be taken at face value.

    I agree with you. And I also want to apologize, my statement came across like I didn't care about someone being sexually abused. That is not what I meant at all, I care very deeply if someone was sexually abused, Casey or anyone, that is a horrible thing to happen to anyone. And I do believe she was, a gut feeling that I have had for a long time.


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    Post by: akmom on April 07, 2010, 03:29:50 PM
    So, we now know from several sources that Baez  was passing communications from the As to Casey and back in violation of the rules .  When is LE going to do something about it???


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 03:32:26 PM
    So, we now know from several sources that Baez  was passing communications from the As to Casey and back in violation of the rules .  When is LE going to do something about it???
    Good question, why is he getting a free pass on this, why is Cindy and George getting a free pass with what they have done? ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 03:40:57 PM
    So, we now know from several sources that Baez  was passing communications from the As to Casey and back in violation of the rules .  When is LE going to do something about it???

    damn good question!!!     ::MonkeyMad::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 03:41:56 PM
    So, we now know from several sources that Baez  was passing communications from the As to Casey and back in violation of the rules .  When is LE going to do something about it???
    Good question, why is he getting a free pass on this, why is Cindy and George getting a free pass with what they have done? ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Who's responsibility would it be to file a complaint against him for breaking the jail rules??


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 07, 2010, 03:42:05 PM

    This may have already been addressed, but ... on a close read in her letters about Lee rubbing her boobies & George also when she was younger, does anyone else think she worded all that very ambiguously?

    Said her brother rubbed her breasts while she slept. How would she know who was rubbing on her if she was asleep?  Could have been Cindy.  Her so-called proof that someone was rubbing on her was because her sports bra would be pulled up on her chest, or regular bra would be unhooked when she woke up.  Only thing she said she actually saw Lee do was sit on her floor & shine a flashlight on her while she slept. Didn't say he was doing anything, just sittin there with a flashlight.

    As to her dad, she said she'd been having vivid dreams and thinks he may have done the same to her at a much younger age.  Then she tried to suggest that maybe she was repressing memories.

    I'm not a Lee or George fan by long shot, but -that was all blah blah blah.








    I agree--- Maybe Lee was watching her snore & drool.    ::MonkeyDevil::  Or perhaps he was testing out flashlights ... lol



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    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 03:47:19 PM
    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-taped-interview-20100407,0,1105956.story
    Casey Anthony defense won’t get illegally recorded interview with searcher
     By Sarah Lundy, Orlando Sentinel
    2:35 p.m. EDT, April 7, 2010
    The judge in the Casey Anthony case isn't going to allow her defense team to have a taped interview of a volunteer who helped search for Anthony's daughter.

    Joe Jordan illegally recorded a conversation between an investigator with Casey Anthony's defense team, himself and his lawyer.

    In Florida, it's illegal to record someone without their knowledge. The court had previously ordered that the recording would not be used or be disclosed by anyone.

    Anthony, 24, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. The 2-year-old remains were found in woods close to her family home in December 2008.

    Volunteers claimed the area where Caylee was found was too wet at the time of their search. Jordon told the investigator that he had personally searched the area where Caylee was found but she was not there and it was dry.

    Law enforcement officials interviewed Jordon in November.

    Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland wrote in his three-page order that the defense can use Jordon's statement to the cops. His illegally recorded statement is of no more value that what he told detectives


    Round two...DENIED    Can we imagine what JS is thinking...we all witnessed his composure both being aggravated & humored by the defense last week.   Get it together defense, tired of your smoke & mirrors - what part of illegally recorded did they not understand?   Funny how something inappropriate and/or illegal works if they feel it will benefit them...think again Bozo!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 03:51:24 PM
    So, we now know from several sources that Baez  was passing communications from the As to Casey and back in violation of the rules .  When is LE going to do something about it???
    Good question, why is he getting a free pass on this, why is Cindy and George getting a free pass with what they have done? ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Who's responsibility would it be to file a complaint against him for breaking the jail rules??
    I don't know, but something tells me he will be long gone soon.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 07, 2010, 03:52:12 PM
    So, we now know from several sources that Baez  was passing communications from the As to Casey and back in violation of the rules .  When is LE going to do something about it???
    Good question, why is he getting a free pass on this, why is Cindy and George getting a free pass with what they have done? ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Who's responsibility would it be to file a complaint against him for breaking the jail rules??

    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image341.png)

    Yeah, considered contraband. My guess is that if the jail learns of it (and they should know by now) that it is their responsibility to deal with it. And hopefully, let the bar know as well.

    Anyone else have any thoughts?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 07, 2010, 03:54:38 PM
    So, we now know from several sources that Baez  was passing communications from the As to Casey and back in violation of the rules .  When is LE going to do something about it???
    Good question, why is he getting a free pass on this, why is Cindy and George getting a free pass with what they have done? ::MonkeyNoNo::

    It's not over till the fat lady sings ...  let's wait & see what transpires over time.


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    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 03:54:47 PM
    Brandi, yes I would think that is what should happen, and hopefully it has, and Baez will be gone.


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    Post by: akmom on April 07, 2010, 03:54:59 PM
    The only reason not to go after the As, Baez and anyone else who has obstructed and aided and abetted this crime is that they are going after the big fish(Casey) first. Not that that makes any sense at all.  BUT not one single thing has made any sense here....sigh....see you all later, life calls and my head hurts


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    Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 07, 2010, 03:56:24 PM
    Thing is, we will never really know that George or Lee molested Casey. Her word against theirs and they are all liars  ::MonkeyNoNo::



    I have to admit, that my first impression of KC was that of a sexually abused victim and my suspicions leaned toward GA. I may have felt that way in an effort to try and understand her behavior but at this point I still don’t know what to believe….
    I have stopped looking at most of what is in front of me as if it’s the truth being revealed. I can’t help but feel that most of these letters are not truth being revealed. What is the truth is what is going on behind what I am looking at and something is going on behind that too.
    Most of what is going on at the moment is a distraction. What is not a distraction is a prelude.  I may be cynical or paranoid but one thing I’m not going to be is gullible or naive. Parties in this latest bombshell letter and testimony release lack any semblance of credibility and have too many mysterious ties to each other to be taken at face value.

    I agree with you. And I also want to apologize, my statement came across like I didn't care about someone being sexually abused. That is not what I meant at all, I care very deeply if someone was sexually abused, Casey or anyone, that is a horrible thing to happen to anyone. And I do believe she was, a gut feeling that I have had for a long time.
    I have to agree I have always thought she was abused as well, this does not in any way shape or form mean I am defending her because I am not she is a monster and deserves to rot. It has been in the back of my mind that it was Lee which may explain some of why he has been so far removed from this whole thing.  NoRose I know you would never be insensitive about anyone being abused sexually.   ::MonkeyWink::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 04:02:49 PM
    The only reason not to go after the As, Baez and anyone else who has obstructed and aided and abetted this crime is that they are going after the big fish(Casey) first. Not that that makes any sense at all.  BUT not one single thing has made any sense here....sigh....see you all later, life calls and my head hurts

    You're right, they've already hung themselves in that lie by several sources & I bet LE and/or the jail are just waiting to get their hands on one of the letters, maybe by Casey getting sloppy leaving them out to be readily seen in plain view for one & two there is no real hurry to do so right now....keep the eyes on the prize, well let me rephrase because Casey is by no means a prize evil witch that she is, right now the task at hand is to bring an alleged babykiller to trial & have a jury of her peers determine whether she is guilty or not based on the evidence presented.   


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 04:04:19 PM
    Thank-you Mission  ::MonkeyCool::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: yuknomenot on April 07, 2010, 04:04:48 PM

    I just took a break from reading and that was one of the things I read - I could not believe it - she is a movie star and a law professional etc......what blows my mind is how she is giving herself permission to move forward (because that is what God told her to do)  which in essence means she is giving herself permission to forget what she did to Caylee - it has no relevance in her mind - what's done is done.... time to move on. Seriously????  She is freaking nuts.  I can't even put into words how nuts she is.

    the more I read, the more convinced I am that she has no touch with reality at all..... ::MonkeyNoNo::she lives in her own world of make believe..........she will do just fine in prison...in fact, I believe she will thrive in her little make believe world.
    I agree she will thrive and I will bet money she has been in her little make believe world for a very long time.
    [/quote]All of the above is why I believe there will be a trial.  There's no way Casey will accept a plea bargain, she isn't going to give up her time in the spotlight.  She will lose out on all that face time on TV during a trial and then would have to give up the "celebrity"  ::MonkeyMad:: status she is claiming in those letters.   


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Babybear on April 07, 2010, 04:11:05 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 
    My guess is no I think they have more than enough to put her away forever, poor KC she is so misguided ........being sarcastic of course.  ::MonkeyTongue::


    Hi Mission and Sassycat (Glad to see the cat getting washed again.)  IMO the state should entertain a plea deal of maybe 20-25 years.  I think they have the evidence to convict but I doubt any jury would ever sentence Casey to death.  Now that Casey has been judged indigent and the state is going to pick up a whopping big bill for defense it would make sense to go with a deal.  In addition the cost of the trial will probably exceed the money the state has put away for it, especially if the trial is moved to another city.  There would be the cost of everyone having to commute, etc.   I think it would come down to a question of economics.  Is it in the people's interest to spend millions of taxpayer money in an economy where most states are struggling to stay afloat, or would it be in the people's interest to strike a deal.  I think the latter. 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 04:12:52 PM
    So, we now know from several sources that Baez  was passing communications from the As to Casey and back in violation of the rules .  When is LE going to do something about it???
    Good question, why is he getting a free pass on this, why is Cindy and George getting a free pass with what they have done? ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Who's responsibility would it be to file a complaint against him for breaking the jail rules??
    I don't know, but something tells me he will be long gone soon.

    nrcg, do you think he is going to step down? 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 07, 2010, 04:14:35 PM
    I don't blame Krystal for not wanting to broadcast to the public whether or not her friendship with George became one of "carnal knowledge" .... What transpired between the sheets with them is insignificant, IMO.  She said she stopped it before anything happened.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Bud's Girl on April 07, 2010, 04:14:39 PM

    Hey Sunny, did you notice?   KC said big girl panties     ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: akmom on April 07, 2010, 04:15:41 PM
    I had to come back to address one more thing.  This family IMHO is steeped in some sort of deep evil.  There is something very, very wrong.  I wish I did not have this kind of knowledge, but....I am very much reminded of a family I have known.  Two parents, two children, each molested by the parent of the opposite sex, each parent with full knowledge of what was going on.  Both parents are now dead and both grown children are unfortunately deeply disturbed adults.  I did not know of the abuse until after the parents were gone, but if I know of this kind of family then I am sad to say it probably is not as rare as we would hope.  No knowledge of course if it pertains here but you have to wonder


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 04:17:03 PM
    So, we now know from several sources that Baez  was passing communications from the As to Casey and back in violation of the rules .  When is LE going to do something about it???
    Good question, why is he getting a free pass on this, why is Cindy and George getting a free pass with what they have done? ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Who's responsibility would it be to file a complaint against him for breaking the jail rules??

    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image341.png)

    Yeah, considered contraband. My guess is that if the jail learns of it (and they should know by now) that it is their responsibility to deal with it. And hopefully, let the bar know as well.

    Anyone else have any thoughts?

    My thoughts are so jumbled.........but I think you are correct, that it would be tghe responsibility of someone at the jail............but would they file a complaint with the bar...........


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 04:26:27 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 
    My guess is no I think they have more than enough to put her away forever, poor KC she is so misguided ........being sarcastic of course.  ::MonkeyTongue::


    Hi Mission and Sassycat (Glad to see the cat getting washed again.)  IMO the state should entertain a plea deal of maybe 20-25 years.  I think they have the evidence to convict but I doubt any jury would ever sentence Casey to death.  Now that Casey has been judged indigent and the state is going to pick up a whopping big bill for defense it would make sense to go with a deal.  In addition the cost of the trial will probably exceed the money the state has put away for it, especially if the trial is moved to another city.  There would be the cost of everyone having to commute, etc.   I think it would come down to a question of economics.  Is it in the people's interest to spend millions of taxpayer money in an economy where most states are struggling to stay afloat, or would it be in the people's interest to strike a deal.  I think the latter. 

    Yes strike a deal.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 04:27:11 PM
    So, we now know from several sources that Baez  was passing communications from the As to Casey and back in violation of the rules .  When is LE going to do something about it???
    Good question, why is he getting a free pass on this, why is Cindy and George getting a free pass with what they have done? ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Who's responsibility would it be to file a complaint against him for breaking the jail rules??
    I don't know, but something tells me he will be long gone soon.

    nrcg, do you think he is going to step down? 

    Yes I do, he is not needed imo.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 04:28:44 PM
    So, we now know from several sources that Baez  was passing communications from the As to Casey and back in violation of the rules .  When is LE going to do something about it???
    Good question, why is he getting a free pass on this, why is Cindy and George getting a free pass with what they have done? ::MonkeyNoNo::

    It's not over till the fat lady sings ...  let's wait & see what transpires over time.

    I got booted out and it took a while to get back in..........

    Chris aka BB12 has said many times that she has heard the A's are being investigated.....but I don't see anyone doing anything as far as pressing charges against them until after the trial....if then. 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 04:28:52 PM
    I had to come back to address one more thing.  This family IMHO is steeped in some sort of deep evil.  There is something very, very wrong.  I wish I did not have this kind of knowledge, but....I am very much reminded of a family I have known.  Two parents, two children, each molested by the parent of the opposite sex, each parent with full knowledge of what was going on.  Both parents are now dead and both grown children are unfortunately deeply disturbed adults.  I did not know of the abuse until after the parents were gone, but if I know of this kind of family then I am sad to say it probably is not as rare as we would hope.  No knowledge of course if it pertains here but you have to wonder
    I think that incest happens a lot more than one wants to think about unfortunately.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 04:32:05 PM

    I just took a break from reading and that was one of the things I read - I could not believe it - she is a movie star and a law professional etc......what blows my mind is how she is giving herself permission to move forward (because that is what God told her to do)  which in essence means she is giving herself permission to forget what she did to Caylee - it has no relevance in her mind - what's done is done.... time to move on. Seriously????  She is freaking nuts.  I can't even put into words how nuts she is.

    the more I read, the more convinced I am that she has no touch with reality at all..... ::MonkeyNoNo::she lives in her own world of make believe..........she will do just fine in prison...in fact, I believe she will thrive in her little make believe world.
    I agree she will thrive and I will bet money she has been in her little make believe world for a very long time.


    All of the above is why I believe there will be a trial.  There's no way Casey will accept a plea bargain, she isn't going to give up her time in the spotlight.  She will lose out on all that face time on TV during a trial and then would have to give up the "celebrity"  ::MonkeyMad:: status she is claiming in those letters.   
    [/quote]

    yuknomenot, we haven't seen you in a while....you still in Christmas mode!  LOL   Sometimes I agree with this thought and other times I think there will be a last minute please deal...........guess we just have to wait and see


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 04:32:27 PM
    Thing is, we will never really know that George or Lee molested Casey. Her word against theirs and they are all liars  ::MonkeyNoNo::



    I have to admit, that my first impression of KC was that of a sexually abused victim and my suspicions leaned toward GA. I may have felt that way in an effort to try and understand her behavior but at this point I still don’t know what to believe….
    I have stopped looking at most of what is in front of me as if it’s the truth being revealed. I can’t help but feel that most of these letters are not truth being revealed. What is the truth is what is going on behind what I am looking at and something is going on behind that too.
    Most of what is going on at the moment is a distraction. What is not a distraction is a prelude.  I may be cynical or paranoid but one thing I’m not going to be is gullible or naive. Parties in this latest bombshell letter and testimony release lack any semblance of credibility and have too many mysterious ties to each other to be taken at face value.

    I agree with you. And I also want to apologize, my statement came across like I didn't care about someone being sexually abused. That is not what I meant at all, I care very deeply if someone was sexually abused, Casey or anyone, that is a horrible thing to happen to anyone. And I do believe she was, a gut feeling that I have had for a long time.
    I have to agree I have always thought she was abused as well, this does not in any way shape or form mean I am defending her because I am not she is a monster and deserves to rot. It has been in the back of my mind that it was Lee which may explain some of why he has been so far removed from this whole thing.  NoRose I know you would never be insensitive about anyone being abused sexually.   ::MonkeyWink::

    It is a very sensitive subject & I dont think anyone here doesnt care a great deal for a victim, no matter the cause of victimization.  We are discussing opinions & observations but what I read between all the lines is that everyone here cares deeply.  That being said, the same could be said feeling badly & how horrific it would be to be emotionally scarred & publicly ruined after being accused of such a heinous act & it being totally untrue, yes even scummy George & Lee.   I cannot express enough how I respectfully disagree with Casey's accusations being true which I've expressed some of my observations why previously but I cannot be certain, that I will admit readily.   I empathize in both directions when appropriate & this I might add as being a victim/survivor by a stepfather as well as in previous decades of years dealing with criminal cases in one capacity or another on the job.   Im never blinded by the truth nor tainted from personal experience, that's all I want to say on that personal aspect on Caylee's thread but as far as work related observations on many cases I can say that there are definite signs & indications that become evident to lead to the truth of what may or may not have transpired when an accusation such as this is lodged in addition to any evidence or lack thereof.   It is, however, very difficult to say with absolute certainty without solid evidence,/eyewitnesses are very rare in sexual assaults & pretty much all he said/she said.    All I can offer for what it is worth is that my gut deeply doubts Casey's accusations based on when she has brought it up, to whom & why as well as to the extent she has touched upon it and the fragmented way she has discussed it with others.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 07, 2010, 04:32:34 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 
    My guess is no I think they have more than enough to put her away forever, poor KC she is so misguided ........being sarcastic of course.  ::MonkeyTongue::


    Hi Mission and Sassycat (Glad to see the cat getting washed again.)  IMO the state should entertain a plea deal of maybe 20-25 years.  I think they have the evidence to convict but I doubt any jury would ever sentence Casey to death.  Now that Casey has been judged indigent and the state is going to pick up a whopping big bill for defense it would make sense to go with a deal.  In addition the cost of the trial will probably exceed the money the state has put away for it, especially if the trial is moved to another city.  There would be the cost of everyone having to commute, etc.   I think it would come down to a question of economics.  Is it in the people's interest to spend millions of taxpayer money in an economy where most states are struggling to stay afloat, or would it be in the people's interest to strike a deal.  I think the latter. 

    Hi Baby Bear - I think you and Sass are right this is going to come down to a plea - it is just far to expensive to let Bia$$ play games in hopes to make it rich by going to trial.  The only thing I wish is that is forever she goes away but I guess it doesn't really matter because her pathetic little life is over as she knows it and like Sunny said she is doing just fine in confines of prison and her own little make believe world.  I just wish I could get in there have just one pot shot at her.....just one that is all I ask.   :smt027


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 04:34:26 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 
    My guess is no I think they have more than enough to put her away forever, poor KC she is so misguided ........being sarcastic of course.  ::MonkeyTongue::


    Hi Mission and Sassycat (Glad to see the cat getting washed again.)  IMO the state should entertain a plea deal of maybe 20-25 years.  I think they have the evidence to convict but I doubt any jury would ever sentence Casey to death.  Now that Casey has been judged indigent and the state is going to pick up a whopping big bill for defense it would make sense to go with a deal.  In addition the cost of the trial will probably exceed the money the state has put away for it, especially if the trial is moved to another city.  There would be the cost of everyone having to commute, etc.   I think it would come down to a question of economics.  Is it in the people's interest to spend millions of taxpayer money in an economy where most states are struggling to stay afloat, or would it be in the people's interest to strike a deal.  I think the latter. 


    BB....I would think a LWOP deal, but 20-25 no way.........she'd perhaps spend 1/2 of that..............nope Caylee was worth more than that IMO


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 04:35:25 PM

    Hey Sunny, did you notice?   KC said big girl panties     ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

    hi BG...no frigging way!!!  Did she really?  BIOTCH!!!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 07, 2010, 04:35:44 PM
    So, we now know from several sources that Baez  was passing communications from the As to Casey and back in violation of the rules .  When is LE going to do something about it???
    Good question, why is he getting a free pass on this, why is Cindy and George getting a free pass with what they have done? ::MonkeyNoNo::

    It's not over till the fat lady sings ...  let's wait & see what transpires over time.

    I got booted out and it took a while to get back in..........

    Chris aka BB12 has said many times that she has heard the A's are being investigated.....but I don't see anyone doing anything as far as pressing charges against them until after the trial....if then. 

    Actually, what may come out with Mr. Morgan's litigation might prove interesting.   It takes time to pull things together---the wheels of justice grind slowly.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 04:38:23 PM
    So, we now know from several sources that Baez  was passing communications from the As to Casey and back in violation of the rules .  When is LE going to do something about it???
    Good question, why is he getting a free pass on this, why is Cindy and George getting a free pass with what they have done? ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Who's responsibility would it be to file a complaint against him for breaking the jail rules??
    I don't know, but something tells me he will be long gone soon.

    nrcg, do you think he is going to step down? 

    Yes I do, he is not needed imo.

    I surely agree with him not being needed.......but I can't see him voluntarily stepping down.......he loves the attention! 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 04:38:25 PM
    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/07/casey.anthony.letters/

    One passage is typical: "As far as my folks are concerned, it's only getting worse," she writes in a letter to Adams. "They're really good at putting on the supportive face/person for the TV, but behind the scenes, it's a daily battle. Ridiculous, unnecessary and downright shameful, but what are you going to do? I just have to keep my distance and hike up my Big Girl panties."

     ::MonkeyJnBox::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 04:39:59 PM
    http://www.wftv.com/news/23080952/detail.html
    Bombshell Revelation In Casey Case A Bust
    Posted: 3:51 pm EDT April 7, 2010Updated: 4:00 pm EDT April 7, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. -- One of the bombshell revelations from Casey Anthony's jailhouse conversations turned out to be a bust. WFTV spent two days analyzing Casey's newly-released letters (read them) and jail conversations to see what the documents will really mean for her case.
    The one conversation getting the most attention was from one of Casey's jail friends. She revealed information no one would have known except for Caylee's killer. It may not be a smoking gun, but it's certainly explosive.

    Of the more than 800 pages of letters and documents released, page eight and nine hold the most explosive statements that are sure to be looked at very closely by both prosecutors and Casey's defense. They’re not buried in the pages and pages of Casey's own letters, but instead statements made by Casey's pen pal, Robyn Adams, to investigators that could be the most explosive part of the new information.

    “The best part of this witness testimony and the most damning is apparently confided to her by Casey Anthony,” WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said.

    Adams claims, in December 2008, the day investigators found Caylee's remains, Casey told her about the trash bag and a blanket the remains were wrapped in; it's information only investigators and the killer would have known about.

    Sheaffer says prosecutors will say the letters show Casey confided in Adams and her statements are believable, but it may not be the bombshell that will make the case. The defense will attack Adams on the stand.

    “As a convicted felon, she will have credibility problems right out of the gate,” Sheaffer said.
    Adams was convicted for setting up a marijuana drug operation with her husband. The defense will also argue, since Adams didn't share the information until this year, she could have learned about it from the media and embellished the story, perhaps to get a reduction in her own prison sentence.

    “Make the jury believe she never said these things to this witness,” Sheaffer said.

    Still, prosecutors will likely take the chance and put Adams on the stand, as long as they believe she's telling the truth.

    “I would be very surprised if they did not polygraph Ms. Adams,” Sheaffer said.
    <snipped>


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 04:41:22 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 
    My guess is no I think they have more than enough to put her away forever, poor KC she is so misguided ........being sarcastic of course.  ::MonkeyTongue::


    Hi Mission and Sassycat (Glad to see the cat getting washed again.)  IMO the state should entertain a plea deal of maybe 20-25 years.  I think they have the evidence to convict but I doubt any jury would ever sentence Casey to death.  Now that Casey has been judged indigent and the state is going to pick up a whopping big bill for defense it would make sense to go with a deal.  In addition the cost of the trial will probably exceed the money the state has put away for it, especially if the trial is moved to another city.  There would be the cost of everyone having to commute, etc.   I think it would come down to a question of economics.  Is it in the people's interest to spend millions of taxpayer money in an economy where most states are struggling to stay afloat, or would it be in the people's interest to strike a deal.  I think the latter. 

    Hi Baby Bear - I think you and Sass are right this is going to come down to a plea - it is just far to expensive to let Bia$$ play games in hopes to make it rich by going to trial.  The only thing I wish is that is forever she goes away but I guess it doesn't really matter because her pathetic little life is over as she knows it and like Sunny said she is doing just fine in confines of prison and her own little make believe world.  I just wish I could get in there have just one pot shot at her.....just one that is all I ask.   :smt027

    Mission,  I think that pot shot line forms to the right ::MonkeyDevil::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 07, 2010, 04:42:00 PM
    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/07/casey.anthony.letters/

    One passage is typical: "As far as my folks are concerned, it's only getting worse," she writes in a letter to Adams. "They're really good at putting on the supportive face/person for the TV, but behind the scenes, it's a daily battle. Ridiculous, unnecessary and downright shameful, but what are you going to do? I just have to keep my distance and hike up my Big Girl panties."

     ::MonkeyJnBox::


     ::MonkeyJnBox::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 04:43:59 PM
    So, we now know from several sources that Baez  was passing communications from the As to Casey and back in violation of the rules .  When is LE going to do something about it???
    Good question, why is he getting a free pass on this, why is Cindy and George getting a free pass with what they have done? ::MonkeyNoNo::

    It's not over till the fat lady sings ...  let's wait & see what transpires over time.

    I got booted out and it took a while to get back in..........

    Chris aka BB12 has said many times that she has heard the A's are being investigated.....but I don't see anyone doing anything as far as pressing charges against them until after the trial....if then. 

    Actually, what may come out with Mr. Morgan's litigation might prove interesting.   It takes time to pull things together---the wheels of justice grind slowly.

     ::rhino:: ::rhino::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 04:45:28 PM
    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/07/casey.anthony.letters/

    One passage is typical: "As far as my folks are concerned, it's only getting worse," she writes in a letter to Adams. "They're really good at putting on the supportive face/person for the TV, but behind the scenes, it's a daily battle. Ridiculous, unnecessary and downright shameful, but what are you going to do? I just have to keep my distance and hike up my Big Girl panties."

     ::MonkeyJnBox::

     ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyTongue::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Bud's Girl on April 07, 2010, 04:46:42 PM
    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/07/casey.anthony.letters/

    One passage is typical: "As far as my folks are concerned, it's only getting worse," she writes in a letter to Adams. "They're really good at putting on the supportive face/person for the TV, but behind the scenes, it's a daily battle. Ridiculous, unnecessary and downright shameful, but what are you going to do? I just have to keep my distance and hike up my Big Girl panties."

     ::MonkeyJnBox::

     ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyTongue::

    ROFL     ::MonkeyDevil::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Babybear on April 07, 2010, 04:50:37 PM
    Interesting conversation.     ::MonkeyCool::      Is there any way that a plea deal would give KC less than LWOP?   She could have gotten 8 years in the beginning - would the State now offer her something less than Life - say 20-25 years? 
    My guess is no I think they have more than enough to put her away forever, poor KC she is so misguided ........being sarcastic of course.  ::MonkeyTongue::


    Hi Mission and Sassycat (Glad to see the cat getting washed again.)  IMO the state should entertain a plea deal of maybe 20-25 years.  I think they have the evidence to convict but I doubt any jury would ever sentence Casey to death.  Now that Casey has been judged indigent and the state is going to pick up a whopping big bill for defense it would make sense to go with a deal.  In addition the cost of the trial will probably exceed the money the state has put away for it, especially if the trial is moved to another city.  There would be the cost of everyone having to commute, etc.   I think it would come down to a question of economics.  Is it in the people's interest to spend millions of taxpayer money in an economy where most states are struggling to stay afloat, or would it be in the people's interest to strike a deal.  I think the latter. 


    BB....I would think a LWOP deal, but 20-25 no way.........she'd perhaps spend 1/2 of that..............nope Caylee was worth more than that IMO

    Sunny, I think Caylee was worth more than the whole Anthony family put together. I'd love to see someone hit Casey upside the head (I love that expression, don't know why.)  There's just nothing that can be done to bring her back and it's a great tragedy.  But, you know, your opinion is worth as much as mine.  I think there will be a deal, but just an opinion.  Casey is a worthless piece of trash anyway and I think we can agree on that.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 04:51:16 PM
    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/07/casey.anthony.letters/

    One passage is typical: "As far as my folks are concerned, it's only getting worse," she writes in a letter to Adams. "They're really good at putting on the supportive face/person for the TV, but behind the scenes, it's a daily battle. Ridiculous, unnecessary and downright shameful, but what are you going to do? I just have to keep my distance and hike up my Big Girl panties."

     ::MonkeyJnBox::

     ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyTongue::

    ROFL     ::MonkeyDevil::

    Well, one thing is for certain the beeotch realizes that her britches have gotten wider  ::MonkeyWink::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 07, 2010, 04:51:54 PM
    I've always wondered if Lee's mournful "CMA, CMA, etc." emotional outburst at the memorial service was really being directed toward little Caylee and not toward Casey at all.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 04:52:24 PM
    http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/23081045/detail.html
    Casey Anthony's Handwriting Reveals Immaturity
    Handwriting Analyst Examines Jailhouse Letters

    POSTED: 4:07 pm EDT April 7, 2010
    UPDATED: 4:29 pm EDT April 7, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. --
    An analysis of Casey Anthony's handwriting in her jailhouse letters could provide an added glimpse into who she is.

    Sally Elliott, a forensic expert, was interviewed by phone and pointed out that Anthony's letters are all the same height.

    "That's mundane writing. It's all in the middle zone. She doesn't have very much in the upper or the lower," Elliott said.
    Elliott said as a person matures, their letter heights begin to vary, and some pen strokes clearly reach upward. That indicates maturity, as well as the development of morals and character.

    But Elliott said Anthony's handwriting indicates an immature personality and someone who's ego-centric.
    "Her main problem is immaturity. Just like any child, she's thinking of herself and doing what she wants to do," Elliott said. "(If) she wants to do something, she's going to do it. She's willful."

    Meanwhile, More information was found inside Anthony's letters about Zenaida Gonzalez, who is the nanny Anthony claimed kidnapped her daughter, Caylee Anthony.

    "I know that Caylee's nanny, the 'real' Zenaida ... I know in my heart that she's not responsible and I don't blame her for not showing her face," Anthony wrote.

    Anthony continued to explain Caylee's disappearance in her writings.

    "I was going to take Caylee and move away ... My plans got beyond tangled when Zanny wouldn't tell me where she and Cays were. I had asked her to take Cays for a few days ... That's why I failed to report her missing, because she was and she wasn't."


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Babybear on April 07, 2010, 04:55:37 PM
    So, we now know from several sources that Baez  was passing communications from the As to Casey and back in violation of the rules .  When is LE going to do something about it???
    Good question, why is he getting a free pass on this, why is Cindy and George getting a free pass with what they have done? ::MonkeyNoNo::

    It's not over till the fat lady sings ...  let's wait & see what transpires over time.

    I got booted out and it took a while to get back in..........

    Chris aka BB12 has said many times that she has heard the A's are being investigated.....but I don't see anyone doing anything as far as pressing charges against them until after the trial....if then. 

    Actually, what may come out with Mr. Morgan's litigation might prove interesting.   It takes time to pull things together---the wheels of justice grind slowly.

     ::rhino:: ::rhino::

    I got booted out too and it took some time to get back in.  I think George and Cindy should be in the "Dormitory" too.  I don't know what the statute of limitations is on some of the things IMO they should be charged with, but probably some of them have run.  That silly JVM still feels sorry for them, and maybe a lot of people do.  Like the cop who wouldn't do anything about them and Milstead chasing Lois.  "Haven't the Anthonys been through enough?"  No, not in my opinion.  Not by a long shot.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Western Observr on April 07, 2010, 04:56:51 PM
    I was going to take Caylee and move away with the money I saved -  yep that's our Casey, still scamming people.She told Amy a similar story, before she robbed her..


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Bud's Girl on April 07, 2010, 04:58:52 PM
    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/07/casey.anthony.letters/

    One passage is typical: "As far as my folks are concerned, it's only getting worse," she writes in a letter to Adams. "They're really good at putting on the supportive face/person for the TV, but behind the scenes, it's a daily battle. Ridiculous, unnecessary and downright shameful, but what are you going to do? I just have to keep my distance and hike up my Big Girl panties."

     ::MonkeyJnBox::

     ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyTongue::

    ROFL     ::MonkeyDevil::

    Well, one thing is for certain the beeotch realizes that her britches have gotten wider  ::MonkeyWink::

     ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Nut44x4 on April 07, 2010, 05:00:48 PM
    I've always wondered if Lee's mournful "CMA, CMA, etc." emotional outburst at the memorial service was really being directed toward little Caylee and not toward Casey at all.

    IMO Lee has known from day one what Casey did to Caylee and that's why he stays low profile. Not that Casey told him anything, but that he 'just knows'.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 05:01:33 PM
    http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/23081045/detail.html
    Casey Anthony's Handwriting Reveals Immaturity
    Handwriting Analyst Examines Jailhouse Letters

    POSTED: 4:07 pm EDT April 7, 2010
    UPDATED: 4:29 pm EDT April 7, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. --
    An analysis of Casey Anthony's handwriting in her jailhouse letters could provide an added glimpse into who she is.

    Sally Elliott, a forensic expert, was interviewed by phone and pointed out that Anthony's letters are all the same height.

    "That's mundane writing. It's all in the middle zone. She doesn't have very much in the upper or the lower," Elliott said.
    Elliott said as a person matures, their letter heights begin to vary, and some pen strokes clearly reach upward. That indicates maturity, as well as the development of morals and character.

    But Elliott said Anthony's handwriting indicates an immature personality and someone who's ego-centric.
    "Her main problem is immaturity. Just like any child, she's thinking of herself and doing what she wants to do," Elliott said. "(If) she wants to do something, she's going to do it. She's willful."

    Meanwhile, More information was found inside Anthony's letters about Zenaida Gonzalez, who is the nanny Anthony claimed kidnapped her daughter, Caylee Anthony.

    "I know that Caylee's nanny, the 'real' Zenaida ... I know in my heart that she's not responsible and I don't blame her for not showing her face," Anthony wrote.

    Anthony continued to explain Caylee's disappearance in her writings.

    "I was going to take Caylee and move away ... My plans got beyond tangled when Zanny wouldn't tell me where she and Cays were. I had asked her to take Cays for a few days ... That's why I failed to report her missing, because she was and she wasn't."


    And to this I challenge her defense to splain just how their now #1 suspect Kronk would have gotten Casey's car & cell phone, drove all over town for a few weeks without being seen & chatted up with her friends disguised as Casey...o and wait invaded the Anthony home to gather some items because if they cant even come up with something plausible it doesnt matter that they are trying to finger him or some other dude being at the Suburban crime scene.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 05:03:57 PM
    I've always wondered if Lee's mournful "CMA, CMA, etc." emotional outburst at the memorial service was really being directed toward little Caylee and not toward Casey at all.

    IMO Lee has known from day one what Casey did to Caylee and that's why he stays low profile. Not that Casey told him anything, but that he 'just knows'.

    I agree, and one step further I think she did tell him but not necessarily explicitly - his behavior playing "detective" tends to make me believe that actually what he was doing was shadowing detectives to thwart their efforts in finding evidence....something changed his mind in the midst of the madness. 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 05:27:02 PM


    BB....I would think a LWOP deal, but 20-25 no way.........she'd perhaps spend 1/2 of that..............nope Caylee was worth more than that IMO

    Sunny, I think Caylee was worth more than the whole Anthony family put together. I'd love to see someone hit Casey upside the head (I love that expression, don't know why.)  There's just nothing that can be done to bring her back and it's a great tragedy.  But, you know, your opinion is worth as much as mine.  I think there will be a deal, but just an opinion.  Casey is a worthless piece of trash anyway and I think we can agree on that.

    I didn't mean to insinuate you didn't think Caylee was worth the world. I knew you were thinking logically and that would more than likely ensure she'd be put away.  I just have to believe the State has a DP case........but I have reservations as to them getting a DP conviction.....which would be my first choice.......then I think what if she walks.......what if a jury doesn't convict her?  If I  thought that was a real possibility, then I'd say yes go for a 20-25 yr deal.........see how confused I am
    !  LOL  You never know what a jury will do............scary!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 05:28:50 PM
    I've always wondered if Lee's mournful "CMA, CMA, etc." emotional outburst at the memorial service was really being directed toward little Caylee and not toward Casey at all.

    his entire 'show' was very confusing to me......he is a strange duck to be sure.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 05:34:54 PM
    I've always wondered if Lee's mournful "CMA, CMA, etc." emotional outburst at the memorial service was really being directed toward little Caylee and not toward Casey at all.

    his entire 'show' was very confusing to me......he is a strange duck to be sure.
    That's for sure  ::MonkeyEek::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 07, 2010, 05:35:18 PM
    I've always wondered if Lee's mournful "CMA, CMA, etc." emotional outburst at the memorial service was really being directed toward little Caylee and not toward Casey at all.

    IMO Lee has known from day one what Casey did to Caylee and that's why he stays low profile. Not that Casey told him anything, but that he 'just knows'.

    I agree, and one step further I think she did tell him but not necessarily explicitly - his behavior playing "detective" tends to make me believe that actually what he was doing was shadowing detectives to thwart their efforts in finding evidence....something changed his mind in the midst of the madness. 

    Yes, and he has known for a very long time!

    I agree, Capp, he got spooked by something as he was trying to cover up for Casey. Probably around the time he lawyer quit on him. Around the time of his deposition, IIRC.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 07, 2010, 05:36:37 PM
    I've always wondered if Lee's mournful "CMA, CMA, etc." emotional outburst at the memorial service was really being directed toward little Caylee and not toward Casey at all.

    IMO Lee has known from day one what Casey did to Caylee and that's why he stays low profile. Not that Casey told him anything, but that he 'just knows'.

    I think so too. 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 05:37:47 PM
    So, we now know from several sources that Baez  was passing communications from the As to Casey and back in violation of the rules .  When is LE going to do something about it???
    Good question, why is he getting a free pass on this, why is Cindy and George getting a free pass with what they have done? ::MonkeyNoNo::

    It's not over till the fat lady sings ...  let's wait & see what transpires over time.

    I got booted out and it took a while to get back in..........

    Chris aka BB12 has said many times that she has heard the A's are being investigated.....but I don't see anyone doing anything as far as pressing charges against them until after the trial....if then. 

    Actually, what may come out with Mr. Morgan's litigation might prove interesting.   It takes time to pull things together---the wheels of justice grind slowly.

     ::rhino:: ::rhino::

    I got booted out too and it took some time to get back in.  I think George and Cindy should be in the "Dormitory" too.  I don't know what the statute of limitations is on some of the things IMO they should be charged with, but probably some of them have run.  That silly JVM still feels sorry for them, and maybe a lot of people do.  Like the cop who wouldn't do anything about them and Milstead chasing Lois.  "Haven't the Anthonys been through enough?"  No, not in my opinion.  Not by a long shot.

    BB, I agree.....there are people who do still feel very sorry for them....their new friends, the Coxes....these are very well respected people in the Orlando community, well thought of real estate agents, they arranged to have the memorial at their church...IIRC they met them at one of the vigils and felt the A's were being unjustly treated by the protestors............they are their new BBF's......perhaps their only friends.  Even Mark Nejame has a soft spot for georgie..........although after the events of the past week or so that might have changed. ::MonkeyWink::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 05:39:34 PM
    I was going to take Caylee and move away with the money I saved -  yep that's our Casey, still scamming people.She told Amy a similar story, before she robbed her..

    Saved?  how....by stealing from family and friends!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 05:40:57 PM
    I've always wondered if Lee's mournful "CMA, CMA, etc." emotional outburst at the memorial service was really being directed toward little Caylee and not toward Casey at all.

    IMO Lee has known from day one what Casey did to Caylee and that's why he stays low profile. Not that Casey told him anything, but that he 'just knows'.

    hi Nut!  I agree...but to add to that...they all knew........when they smelled that car and there was no Caylee.....they knew............


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 07, 2010, 05:42:51 PM

    It is a very sensitive subject & I dont think anyone here doesnt care a great deal for a victim, no matter the cause of victimization.  We are discussing opinions & observations but what I read between all the lines is that everyone here cares deeply.  That being said, the same could be said feeling badly & how horrific it would be to be emotionally scarred & publicly ruined after being accused of such a heinous act & it being totally untrue, yes even scummy George & Lee.   I cannot express enough how I respectfully disagree with Casey's accusations being true which I've expressed some of my observations why previously but I cannot be certain, that I will admit readily.   I empathize in both directions when appropriate & this I might add as being a victim/survivor by a stepfather as well as in previous decades of years dealing with criminal cases in one capacity or another on the job.   Im never blinded by the truth nor tainted from personal experience, that's all I want to say on that personal aspect on Caylee's thread but as far as work related observations on many cases I can say that there are definite signs & indications that become evident to lead to the truth of what may or may not have transpired when an accusation such as this is lodged in addition to any evidence or lack thereof.   It is, however, very difficult to say with absolute certainty without solid evidence,/eyewitnesses are very rare in sexual assaults & pretty much all he said/she said.    All I can offer for what it is worth is that my gut deeply doubts Casey's accusations based on when she has brought it up, to whom & why as well as to the extent she has touched upon it and the fragmented way she has discussed it with others.
    Capp I am sorry you had to experience this in your life, the encouraging thing is you call yourself a survivor.  No doubt KC has told many lies, if what she says about Lee is not true, it truly is horrific.  The unfortunate thing is the truth may never be known considering the unscrupulous cast of characters involved.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: BooMonkey on April 07, 2010, 05:46:06 PM
    One thing that bothers me in the letters is her reference to Caylee as Cays. If I were discussing my missing or dead daughter, I would use her full first name, not a shortened happy version. When I'm talking about my own daughter and the subject is funny or at least not serious, I shorten her name, but when discussing anything serious, I use her actual name. I don't know, to me it seems irreverent to be talking about Zanny taking her and saying "Cays". Like- Oh well, what happened happened. No biggie.

    JMO  ::MonkeyMad::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 07, 2010, 05:48:53 PM


    Mission,  I think that pot shot line forms to the right ::MonkeyDevil::
      ::MonkeyHaHa:: And can you imagine if one were to sell tickets?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 05:52:07 PM
    One thing that bothers me in the letters is her reference to Caylee as Cays. If I were discussing my missing or dead daughter, I would use her full first name, not a shortened happy version. When I'm talking about my own daughter and the subject is funny or at least not serious, I shorten her name, but when discussing anything serious, I use her actual name. I don't know, to me it seems irreverent to be talking about Zanny taking her and saying "Cays". Like- Oh well, what happened happened. No biggie.

    JMO  ::MonkeyMad::

    Boo I find that odd as well.  Everytime she mentioned Caylee is seemed so orchestrated....as though she thought...oh I'd better mention Caylee..but I think she so resented Caylee, in life and in death, that she referred to her as Cays


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 05:52:53 PM


    Mission,  I think that pot shot line forms to the right ::MonkeyDevil::
      ::MonkeyHaHa:: And can you imagine if one were to sell tickets?

    instant millionaire status!!  $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: GrnLizrd on April 07, 2010, 05:57:38 PM
    Also on the property reports I see references to pill bottles.  I remember they took many from
    Cindy's medicine cabinet.  I wonder if testing shows Casey's prints on mommies medicines??????  I am also very confused that at the bottom of the property report on page 40 I believe it says:

    This evidence packaging contains secondary evidence from more than 1 case(as listed).  What in the world does that mean??????

     Im not sure how to copy this doc your talking about but i do agree there is 2 case numbers and see exactly what you mean. 1st part is listed under case #08-122093 and case #08-069208. The second part is listed only as under case #08-069208. Maybe a smarter monkey can tell us which those cases are not sure but i do understand and wonder the same thing. Sorry to take so long to respond but wanted to make sure i was reading it all right. Its been alot of reading overload last couple days lol. Maybe KLass can do a screen shot of page 40 of page 2 Docs.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 05:59:32 PM
    http://www.wesh.com/news/23079765/detail.html
    Inmate: Anthony 'Scared' When Caylee Was Found
    Attorney Says Anthony's Actions Amount To Nonverbal Confession

    POSTED: 1:52 pm EDT April 7, 2010
    UPDATED: 5:18 pm EDT April 7, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. --
    Testimony from a jailhouse pen pal could amount to a nonverbal confession from Casey Anthony, an Orlando attorney said.

    Anthony's letters were exchanged with inmate Robyn Adams, and they were friends both before and after the remains of Caylee Anthony were found.

    Adams told a detective with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement her opinion of Anthony changed in light of two episodes.

    Adams said Anthony giggled and seemed to know right away that a report about a bag of bones being found at Blanchard Park wouldn't be connected to Caylee's disappearance.
    But within a day or so of remains being found on Suburban Drive, Anthony told Adams the remains of a child were found with a baby blanket inside a black garbage bag. The statement was made before Caylee was positively identified. Adams said it was the only time she saw Anthony depressed and very scared.

    "Clearly, the lynch pin in this is the details about the blanket and the black bag -- the elements law enforcement didn't release right away," Orlando attorney Richard Hornsby said.

    Hornsby said Anthony's biggest mistake in her friendship with Adams was letting those details slip and showing such an extreme reaction to the discovery before the remains were identified.
    Her nonverbal actions are basically the admission to the fact that she knew that was where Caylee's body was," Hornsby said.

    Hornsby said those actions corroborate a jail video made of Anthony watching news coverage on Dec. 11, 2008, when she was apparently overcome with anxiety at the discovery. The video has never been made public.

    Adams told the FDLE investigator that Anthony never discussed the case. But she later said Anthony addressed the issue of Zanny the nanny, the woman Anthony claimed took Caylee. She just said, "Zenaida didn't. I know Zenaida didn't. Zenaida didn't do this."
    Anthony also confided in Adams that Anthony admitted to using "stuff" to help her daughter sleep and have her afternoons free. In an earlier interview, an Orange County detective claimed Adams told him Anthony admitted to using chloroform on Caylee.

    Adams, who is a convicted drug dealer, said she and Anthony met in July 2008. They started communicating in their protective custody cell using hand signals. Adams claimed to have sympathy for Anthony.

    "I looked at her as a person that didn't need to be stereotyped," she said.

    Adams said she never approached authorities with the information, but that another inmate did.

    The detective asked, "Was it ever in your thoughts to use the correspondence to strong arm the U.S. attorney in to getting a better deal?"

    "No," Adams said.

    A spokeswoman for Antohny's defense team said the only reason Adams is cooperating is to get a break on her federal prison sentence.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 07, 2010, 06:02:24 PM
    One thing that bothers me in the letters is her reference to Caylee as Cays. If I were discussing my missing or dead daughter, I would use her full first name, not a shortened happy version. When I'm talking about my own daughter and the subject is funny or at least not serious, I shorten her name, but when discussing anything serious, I use her actual name. I don't know, to me it seems irreverent to be talking about Zanny taking her and saying "Cays". Like- Oh well, what happened happened. No biggie.

    JMO  ::MonkeyMad::

    I was absolutely floored and amazed that there was no real talk about Casey being dead after she knew the remains had been found. No horror of the death. No grieving. She seemed to just go on as normal being concerned about her day-to-day life in the slammer and her dreams for the future with Robyn.

    A very evil person she is.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 06:05:46 PM

    It is a very sensitive subject & I dont think anyone here doesnt care a great deal for a victim, no matter the cause of victimization.  We are discussing opinions & observations but what I read between all the lines is that everyone here cares deeply.  That being said, the same could be said feeling badly & how horrific it would be to be emotionally scarred & publicly ruined after being accused of such a heinous act & it being totally untrue, yes even scummy George & Lee.   I cannot express enough how I respectfully disagree with Casey's accusations being true which I've expressed some of my observations why previously but I cannot be certain, that I will admit readily.   I empathize in both directions when appropriate & this I might add as being a victim/survivor by a stepfather as well as in previous decades of years dealing with criminal cases in one capacity or another on the job.   Im never blinded by the truth nor tainted from personal experience, that's all I want to say on that personal aspect on Caylee's thread but as far as work related observations on many cases I can say that there are definite signs & indications that become evident to lead to the truth of what may or may not have transpired when an accusation such as this is lodged in addition to any evidence or lack thereof.   It is, however, very difficult to say with absolute certainty without solid evidence,/eyewitnesses are very rare in sexual assaults & pretty much all he said/she said.    All I can offer for what it is worth is that my gut deeply doubts Casey's accusations based on when she has brought it up, to whom & why as well as to the extent she has touched upon it and the fragmented way she has discussed it with others.
    Capp I am sorry you had to experience this in your life, the encouraging thing is you call yourself a survivor.  No doubt KC has told many lies, if what she says about Lee is not true, it truly is horrific.  The unfortunate thing is the truth may never be known considering the unscrupulous cast of characters involved.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Thank you very much Mission, although the memory will not totally evade me I was bound and determined to not let someone else's actions define me nor take away my dignity.  You'r right we may not ever know what did or did not transpire in this case regarding this particular allegation made by Casey,  all I can do as everyone else is weigh what we see & hear to be left with our opinion as to what more likely did or did not take place.

    HLN primetime is covering yesterday's release again   O God JVM & Jean Casarus....my tolerance level is being tested again, snit all I need to hear is that Whinewitch  to get on with her dribble & it will be time for me to take a much needed break.    They just read the Anthony statement thru Conman....how ridiculous this family whom continues to support her have to come out with this public statement.    One would think that would wake their as evil arses up, but NO!



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 07, 2010, 06:07:18 PM
    http://www.wesh.com/news/23079765/detail.html
    Inmate: Anthony 'Scared' When Caylee Was Found
    Attorney Says Anthony's Actions Amount To Nonverbal Confession

    POSTED: 1:52 pm EDT April 7, 2010
    UPDATED: 5:18 pm EDT April 7, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. --
    Testimony from a jailhouse pen pal could amount to a nonverbal confession from Casey Anthony, an Orlando attorney said.

    Anthony's letters were exchanged with inmate Robyn Adams, and they were friends both before and after the remains of Caylee Anthony were found.

    Adams told a detective with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement her opinion of Anthony changed in light of two episodes.

    Adams said Anthony giggled and seemed to know right away that a report about a bag of bones being found at Blanchard Park wouldn't be connected to Caylee's disappearance.
    But within a day or so of remains being found on Suburban Drive, Anthony told Adams the remains of a child were found with a baby blanket inside a black garbage bag. The statement was made before Caylee was positively identified. Adams said it was the only time she saw Anthony depressed and very scared.

    "Clearly, the lynch pin in this is the details about the blanket and the black bag -- the elements law enforcement didn't release right away," Orlando attorney Richard Hornsby said.

    Hornsby said Anthony's biggest mistake in her friendship with Adams was letting those details slip and showing such an extreme reaction to the discovery before the remains were identified.
    Her nonverbal actions are basically the admission to the fact that she knew that was where Caylee's body was," Hornsby said.

    Hornsby said those actions corroborate a jail video made of Anthony watching news coverage on Dec. 11, 2008, when she was apparently overcome with anxiety at the discovery. The video has never been made public.

    Adams told the FDLE investigator that Anthony never discussed the case. But she later said Anthony addressed the issue of Zanny the nanny, the woman Anthony claimed took Caylee. She just said, "Zenaida didn't. I know Zenaida didn't. Zenaida didn't do this."
    Anthony also confided in Adams that Anthony admitted to using "stuff" to help her daughter sleep and have her afternoons free. In an earlier interview, an Orange County detective claimed Adams told him Anthony admitted to using chloroform on Caylee.

    Adams, who is a convicted drug dealer, said she and Anthony met in July 2008. They started communicating in their protective custody cell using hand signals. Adams claimed to have sympathy for Anthony.

    "I looked at her as a person that didn't need to be stereotyped," she said.

    Adams said she never approached authorities with the information, but that another inmate did.

    The detective asked, "Was it ever in your thoughts to use the correspondence to strong arm the U.S. attorney in to getting a better deal?"

    "No," Adams said.

    A spokeswoman for Antohny's defense team said the only reason Adams is cooperating is to get a break on her federal prison sentence.

    Um .. she lied to someone about that then:

    Her letters:

    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image276.png)

    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image278.png)


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 06:08:07 PM
    One thing that bothers me in the letters is her reference to Caylee as Cays. If I were discussing my missing or dead daughter, I would use her full first name, not a shortened happy version. When I'm talking about my own daughter and the subject is funny or at least not serious, I shorten her name, but when discussing anything serious, I use her actual name. I don't know, to me it seems irreverent to be talking about Zanny taking her and saying "Cays". Like- Oh well, what happened happened. No biggie.

    JMO  ::MonkeyMad::

    I sure would not have the strength or mindset to discuss lunch or vacations within nano seconds of a mere mention either.   By design people, this girl clearly is stating certain things for specific reasons all to benefit the only thing she has or ever will care about, herself.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 06:16:03 PM
    What was the family statement that Conway said?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 06:19:26 PM
    What was the family statement that Conway said?

    "The Anthony family denies that there was any improper sexual behavior in their family nor was there ever a time when Casey told them of sexually inappropriate conduct by her brother or father," the family's attorney, Brad Conway, said in a statement.

    taken from http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/witness-reports-casey-anthony-knock-caylee/story?id=10301719


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 07, 2010, 06:19:30 PM
    What was the family statement that Conway said?




    "The Anthony family denies that there was any improper sexual behavior in their family nor was there ever a time when Casey told them of sexually inappropriate conduct by her brother or father," the family's attorney, Brad Conway, said in a statement.

    http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/witness-reports-casey-anthony-knock-caylee/story?id=10301719&page=1


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 07, 2010, 06:21:36 PM
    What was the family statement that Conway said?




    "The Anthony family denies that there was any improper sexual behavior in their family nor was there ever a time when Casey told them of sexually inappropriate conduct by her brother or father," the family's attorney, Brad Conway, said in a statement.

    http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/witness-reports-casey-anthony-knock-caylee/story?id=10301719&page=1



    HLN is a day behind in reporting the news.....


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: GrnLizrd on April 07, 2010, 06:22:40 PM
    Also on the property reports I see references to pill bottles.  I remember they took many from
    Cindy's medicine cabinet.  I wonder if testing shows Casey's prints on mommies medicines??????  I am also very confused that at the bottom of the property report on page 40 I believe it says:

    This evidence packaging contains secondary evidence from more than 1 case(as listed).  What in the world does that mean??????

     Im not sure how to copy this doc your talking about but i do agree there is 2 case numbers and see exactly what you mean. 1st part is listed under case #08-122093 and case #08-069208. The second part is listed only as under case #08-069208. Maybe a smarter monkey can tell us which those cases are not sure but i do understand and wonder the same thing. Sorry to take so long to respond but wanted to make sure i was reading it all right. Its been alot of reading overload last couple days lol. Maybe KLass can do a screen shot of page 40 of page 2 Docs.

      I see that the case #08-069208 starts on page 31. Top right corner are the case 3's so thats the best i can do. not sure if it was any help AKMom


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 06:23:55 PM
    What was the family statement that Conway said?

    "The Anthony family denies that there was any improper sexual behavior in their family nor was there ever a time when Casey told them of sexually inappropriate conduct by her brother or father," the family's attorney, Brad Conway, said in a statement.

    taken from http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/witness-reports-casey-anthony-knock-caylee/story?id=10301719
    Thank-you.  And like who are we suppose to believe in all this?  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 06:42:12 PM
    What was the family statement that Conway said?

    "The Anthony family denies that there was any improper sexual behavior in their family nor was there ever a time when Casey told them of sexually inappropriate conduct by her brother or father," the family's attorney, Brad Conway, said in a statement.

    taken from http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/witness-reports-casey-anthony-knock-caylee/story?id=10301719
    Thank-you.  And like who are we suppose to believe in all this?  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    At this point, Im left with none of them, if I didnt care about what happened to Caylee so much these scum wouldnt even be on my lips any longer or in my thought process.   I hope they all rot in H E double hockey sticksm each of them separately and collectively have just led despicable lousy lives...what a waste, a huge waste.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 06:46:58 PM
    Sunny,here is the video of Cheney Mason 12/12/08   ::MonkeyCool::  (saw the link posted over at IS http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=366656&page=16  )
    http://web1.nyc.youtube.com/v/gWb_ZztZOKM&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 06:49:29 PM
    Sunny,here is the video of Cheney Mason 12/12/08   ::MonkeyCool::  (saw the link posted over at IS http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=366656&page=16  )
    http://web1.nyc.youtube.com/v/gWb_ZztZOKM&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b

    Well,that didn't work    ::MonkeyHaHa::

    http://www.youtube.com/v/gWb_ZztZOKM&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 07, 2010, 06:53:18 PM
    Casey’s Pen Pal Could Get Reduced Sentence
    Posted: 5:12 pm EDT April 7, 2010Updated: 6:24 pm EDT April 7, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's letters (read them) are the biggest development yet in the case against her. The inmate she wrote to, Robyn Adams, still has seven years to serve in a federal prison for a drug and weapons conviction.
    Instead of flushing Casey's letters as she promised, Adams mailed them to a friend for safekeeping on the chance they could clear Casey's name or convict her, or even help out Adams herself.

    The letters could be Adams' ticket out of prison. Maybe not right away, but her attorney could use the letters and cooperation with prosecutors in Casey Anthony's case to try to get time off her sentence.

    (http://www.wftv.com/2010/0407/23081906_187X180.jpg)
    Robyn Adams

    Adams is Casey's pen pal, the jail inmate who saved the 500 pages of letters written by Casey. They were mailed, along with her own letters, to a friend on the outside, Tracey Nealey.

    In Adams' letters, she reveals details about a seemingly depressed Casey, who was losing it behind bars and “crying all the time.”

    In one letter written more than a year ago, Adams even predicted Casey "will break down and talk." But, to this day, Casey hasn't.

    Even though Adams and Casey agreed to flush the letters down the toilet, Adams seems to have kept them for a reason, saying in one letter "they might hold some value in the future."

    But did she blow her chance to use them? WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer doesn’t think so.

    “Just handing over letters and saying, ‘I’m handing them over, I want something in return,’ at this juncture, just doesn't fly in the federal system,” Sheaffer said.

    Adams is serving a 10-year federal prison sentence after she and her husband, a former Altamonte Springs police officer, conspired to build a marijuana-growing operation. But, if she cooperates in providing letters and possibly testimony, after Casey's trial is over she and state prosecutors case could go back to federal prosecutors to help Adams get years cut off her sentence.

    “Since this substantial assistance is in the prosecution of a murder case, I would expect a substantial reduction in Adam's sentence by federal court,” Sheaffer said.

    But Adams may have missed out on the chance to cash in by selling the letters to the tabloids. One tabloid paper told WFTV exclusive access to the letters could have fetched as much $10,000.

    http://www.wftv.com/news/23081784/detail.html


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: yuknomenot on April 07, 2010, 06:56:29 PM

    I just took a break from reading and that was one of the things I read - I could not believe it - she is a movie star and a law professional etc......what blows my mind is how she is giving herself permission to move forward (because that is what God told her to do)  which in essence means she is giving herself permission to forget what she did to Caylee - it has no relevance in her mind - what's done is done.... time to move on. Seriously????  She is freaking nuts.  I can't even put into words how nuts she is.

    the more I read, the more convinced I am that she has no touch with reality at all..... ::MonkeyNoNo::she lives in her own world of make believe..........she will do just fine in prison...in fact, I believe she will thrive in her little make believe world.
    I agree she will thrive and I will bet money she has been in her little make believe world for a very long time.


    All of the above is why I believe there will be a trial.  There's no way Casey will accept a plea bargain, she isn't going to give up her time in the spotlight.  She will lose out on all that face time on TV during a trial and then would have to give up the "celebrity"  ::MonkeyMad:: status she is claiming in those letters.   

    yuknomenot, we haven't seen you in a while....you still in Christmas mode!  LOL   Sometimes I agree with this thought and other times I think there will be a last minute please deal...........guess we just have to wait and see
    [/quote]
    Hi Sunny :), I am frequently here but rarely say anything because you all usually have it all covered!  Yes, I am still in Christmas mode from 2008  ::MonkeyHaHa::, I probably should have something done about it.  What concerns me about her taking a plea is that nothing will ever be done about the rest of the family, we all know they need to be held accountable for some of their actions (took me a while to figure out how to put that nicely, nice and Anthony don't mix so well  ::MonkeyDevil::).


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 07:02:43 PM
    Casey’s Pen Pal Could Get Reduced Sentence
    Posted: 5:12 pm EDT April 7, 2010Updated: 6:24 pm EDT April 7, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's letters (read them) are the biggest development yet in the case against her. The inmate she wrote to, Robyn Adams, still has seven years to serve in a federal prison for a drug and weapons conviction.
    Instead of flushing Casey's letters as she promised, Adams mailed them to a friend for safekeeping on the chance they could clear Casey's name or convict her, or even help out Adams herself.

    The letters could be Adams' ticket out of prison. Maybe not right away, but her attorney could use the letters and cooperation with prosecutors in Casey Anthony's case to try to get time off her sentence.

    (http://www.wftv.com/2010/0407/23081906_187X180.jpg)
    Robyn Adams

    Adams is Casey's pen pal, the jail inmate who saved the 500 pages of letters written by Casey. They were mailed, along with her own letters, to a friend on the outside, Tracey Nealey.

    In Adams' letters, she reveals details about a seemingly depressed Casey, who was losing it behind bars and “crying all the time.”

    In one letter written more than a year ago, Adams even predicted Casey "will break down and talk." But, to this day, Casey hasn't.

    Even though Adams and Casey agreed to flush the letters down the toilet, Adams seems to have kept them for a reason, saying in one letter "they might hold some value in the future."

    But did she blow her chance to use them? WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer doesn’t think so.

    “Just handing over letters and saying, ‘I’m handing them over, I want something in return,’ at this juncture, just doesn't fly in the federal system,” Sheaffer said.

    Adams is serving a 10-year federal prison sentence after she and her husband, a former Altamonte Springs police officer, conspired to build a marijuana-growing operation. But, if she cooperates in providing letters and possibly testimony, after Casey's trial is over she and state prosecutors case could go back to federal prosecutors to help Adams get years cut off her sentence.

    “Since this substantial assistance is in the prosecution of a murder case, I would expect a substantial reduction in Adam's sentence by federal court,” Sheaffer said.

    But Adams may have missed out on the chance to cash in by selling the letters to the tabloids. One tabloid paper told WFTV exclusive access to the letters could have fetched as much $10,000.

    http://www.wftv.com/news/23081784/detail.html

    OK, someone has to say it although Im not trying to be mean per se but what the heck happened to that girl's face?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 07:03:31 PM
    http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/psychologist-casey-anthony-app.html
    WDBO Local News      
    Psychologist: Casey Anthony appears to have personality disorder
    By
    Drew Petrimoulx
    @ April 7, 2010 6:18 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
    Hundreds of pages in jail house letters are painting a picture of Casey Anthony's mental state after spending the last year and a half behind bars.

    "In my estimation Casey Anthony appears clinically to have personality disorder," Los Angeles clinical psychologist Dr. Michelle Golland told WDBO. 

    Dr. Golland also describes Casey as a "pathological liar."

    In the letters, Casey makes allegations that her older brother molested her when she was a young girl, and says her father may have also when she was too young to remember. 

    Dr. Golland says it's impossible to know if Casey is telling the truth, but her behavior is consistent with someone who has suffered from abuse.

    "I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of major trauma going on with in that house," she said.

    Dr. Golland told WDBO that she's not surprised Casey risked hurting her case by reaching out to another inmate, calling her "narcissistic and self involved" and saying Casey is always seeking attention because "it's never enough."
    The accusations against her family may cause them to abandon the unwavering support they've shown since she was arrested in the Summer of 2008, Dr Golland said.

    Both Casey's parents and her brother issued statements denying abuse the same day that the letters were made public.

    "This could be the tipping point," Dr. Golland said.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Babybear on April 07, 2010, 07:03:51 PM
    Sunny  I didn't think anything about your statement about Caylee.  I,like you, wish Casey would get the DP but I just don't think a jury would do that.  (I started to say a jury of her peers, but I don't think there are 12 people in Orlando who are low enough to be her peers.)  And I do think it would be in the people of FL's interest to try to make a reasonable deal with the skank, but that's just my opinion and has no bearing on what will actually happen.

    I can't determine whether or not Casey is telling the truth about abuse by Lee and possibly George.  I tend to always believe this kind of thing when it is told by a victim.  Knowing that Casey is a vindictive little witch, I tend not to believe a word she says.  But it could be true.  Lee does seem like a strange person to me, but a sex pervert?  I don't know.

    I recently found out that a man whom I have known for 20 years and who died recently was a pedophile.  I wish I had known before he died so I could have confronted him with it but now I've been sworn to silence about it.  So who knows.  I was very surprised.  I'll just reserve judgement for now about Casey's truthfulness in this.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 07:10:31 PM
    JVM guests late on reading discussing whether it is possible how Adams reported Casey & her communicated thru vents/ducts...in the supplemental report Yuri indeed speaks to them testing whether it was possible for Adams thru air ducts & the other inmate to communicate with Casey in jail, so been there done that

    O God they just showed Lee CMA CMA, I love you. Im so proud of you, I hope you're proud of me too....ugh.    JVM is on her poor Anthony trip again....woman put the gavel down you are nothing but a talkhead drama mama,  get over yourself!

    OK could you tell Im getting a bit punchy LOL


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 07, 2010, 07:12:32 PM
    Casey’s Pen Pal Could Get Reduced Sentence
    Posted: 5:12 pm EDT April 7, 2010Updated: 6:24 pm EDT April 7, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's letters (read them) are the biggest development yet in the case against her. The inmate she wrote to, Robyn Adams, still has seven years to serve in a federal prison for a drug and weapons conviction.
    Instead of flushing Casey's letters as she promised, Adams mailed them to a friend for safekeeping on the chance they could clear Casey's name or convict her, or even help out Adams herself.

    The letters could be Adams' ticket out of prison. Maybe not right away, but her attorney could use the letters and cooperation with prosecutors in Casey Anthony's case to try to get time off her sentence.

    (http://www.wftv.com/2010/0407/23081906_187X180.jpg)
    Robyn Adams

    Adams is Casey's pen pal, the jail inmate who saved the 500 pages of letters written by Casey. They were mailed, along with her own letters, to a friend on the outside, Tracey Nealey.

    In Adams' letters, she reveals details about a seemingly depressed Casey, who was losing it behind bars and “crying all the time.”

    In one letter written more than a year ago, Adams even predicted Casey "will break down and talk." But, to this day, Casey hasn't.

    Even though Adams and Casey agreed to flush the letters down the toilet, Adams seems to have kept them for a reason, saying in one letter "they might hold some value in the future."

    But did she blow her chance to use them? WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer doesn’t think so.

    “Just handing over letters and saying, ‘I’m handing them over, I want something in return,’ at this juncture, just doesn't fly in the federal system,” Sheaffer said.

    Adams is serving a 10-year federal prison sentence after she and her husband, a former Altamonte Springs police officer, conspired to build a marijuana-growing operation. But, if she cooperates in providing letters and possibly testimony, after Casey's trial is over she and state prosecutors case could go back to federal prosecutors to help Adams get years cut off her sentence.

    “Since this substantial assistance is in the prosecution of a murder case, I would expect a substantial reduction in Adam's sentence by federal court,” Sheaffer said.

    But Adams may have missed out on the chance to cash in by selling the letters to the tabloids. One tabloid paper told WFTV exclusive access to the letters could have fetched as much $10,000.

    http://www.wftv.com/news/23081784/detail.html

    OK, someone has to say it although Im not trying to be mean per se but what the heck happened to that girl's face?

    I think she has been crying.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 07, 2010, 07:15:45 PM
    What was the family statement that Conway said?

    "The Anthony family denies that there was any improper sexual behavior in their family nor was there ever a time when Casey told them of sexually inappropriate conduct by her brother or father," the family's attorney, Brad Conway, said in a statement.

    taken from http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/witness-reports-casey-anthony-knock-caylee/story?id=10301719
    Thank-you.  And like who are we suppose to believe in all this?  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    For the sake of argument---I fail to see how being the victim of incest somehow innoculates Casey from receiving just punishment if she should be proven in a court of law by the facts to be guilty of murdering Caylee.  God has commanded that we are to protect the innocent, weak, and punish the guilty.  Caylee was not guilty of breaking the law and did not deserve the punishment she received.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 07:16:25 PM
    http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/psychologist-casey-anthony-app.html
    WDBO Local News      
    Psychologist: Casey Anthony appears to have personality disorder
    By
    Drew Petrimoulx
    @ April 7, 2010 6:18 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
    Hundreds of pages in jail house letters are painting a picture of Casey Anthony's mental state after spending the last year and a half behind bars.

    "In my estimation Casey Anthony appears clinically to have personality disorder," Los Angeles clinical psychologist Dr. Michelle Golland told WDBO. 

    Dr. Golland also describes Casey as a "pathological liar."

    In the letters, Casey makes allegations that her older brother molested her when she was a young girl, and says her father may have also when she was too young to remember. 

    Dr. Golland says it's impossible to know if Casey is telling the truth, but her behavior is consistent with someone who has suffered from abuse.

    "I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of major trauma going on with in that house," she said.

    Dr. Golland told WDBO that she's not surprised Casey risked hurting her case by reaching out to another inmate, calling her "narcissistic and self involved" and saying Casey is always seeking attention because "it's never enough."
    The accusations against her family may cause them to abandon the unwavering support they've shown since she was arrested in the Summer of 2008, Dr Golland said.

    Both Casey's parents and her brother issued statements denying abuse the same day that the letters were made public.

    "This could be the tipping point," Dr. Golland said.

    Yea, it could be but it more likely wont much to their embarrassment & shame for disrespecting their granddaughter & yet again tolerating Casey's behavior.  I honestly dont know how they show their faces everywhere as is.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 07:27:19 PM
    What was the family statement that Conway said?

    "The Anthony family denies that there was any improper sexual behavior in their family nor was there ever a time when Casey told them of sexually inappropriate conduct by her brother or father," the family's attorney, Brad Conway, said in a statement.

    taken from http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/witness-reports-casey-anthony-knock-caylee/story?id=10301719
    Thank-you.  And like who are we suppose to believe in all this?  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    For the sake of argument---I fail to see how being the victim of incest somehow innoculates Casey from receiving just punishment if she should be proven in a court of law by the facts to be guilty of murdering Caylee.  God has commanded that we are to protect the innocent, weak, and punish the guilty.  Caylee was not guilty of breaking the law and did not deserve the punishment she received.

    Here here...not to mention one could maybe, and its a big maybe see how years of abuse would cause one to kill the abuser but to transfer that to an innocent child to be the victim, NO WAY.    Casey has exhibited clearly that she is very aware of the difference between right & wrong, she has spent a young adult life concealing her bad acts which indicates an awareness.   Nor was this a crime of passion or instant reaction to a traumatic experience, no this was premeditated, IMHO NO MERCY!  I am totally against a plea in this case (well in most heinous criminal cases) & I dont give a hoot if I have to help pay Florida taxpayers burden as an out of state donotar because that would not be justice for Caylee...much to Casey's horror this is not about her, its about what she is alleged to have done to Caylee & she should face the harshest of sentence options possible if found guilty or even if she finally admits guilt I see no reason to show her mercy to ever, and I mean ever see the light of day again.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 07, 2010, 07:29:33 PM
    If anything, I think George & CinCin will be sure to appear even more in support of Casey--although it'll be interesting to see what's next with them.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 07:35:39 PM
    SNIPED

    OK, someone has to say it although Im not trying to be mean per se but what the heck happened to that girl's face?

    I think she has been crying.

    Yea, but it looks soooo swollen & the redness in the cheek areas seem a bit more severe than a gag of crying...I dont know.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 07:37:27 PM
    If anything, I think George & CinCin will be sure to appear even more in support of Casey--although it'll be interesting to see what's next with them.
    Dr. Golland says it's impossible to know if Casey is telling the truth, but her behavior is consistent with someone who has suffered from abuse.

    "I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of major trauma going on with in that house," she said.  ::MonkeyNoNo::  And that is why I have believed the Anthonys stand behind their daughter, for me nothing else makes sense, and believe me I've tried to make sense of them  ::MonkeyEek::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 07, 2010, 07:55:27 PM
    If anything, I think George & CinCin will be sure to appear even more in support of Casey--although it'll be interesting to see what's next with them.
    Dr. Golland says it's impossible to know if Casey is telling the truth, but her behavior is consistent with someone who has suffered from abuse.

    "I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of major trauma going on with in that house," she said.  ::MonkeyNoNo::  And that is why I have believed the Anthonys stand behind their daughter, for me nothing else makes sense, and believe me I've tried to make sense of them  ::MonkeyEek::



    They are all so vile that I wouldn’t be surprised by any secrets hidden in their closet of evil.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 07:56:57 PM
    If anything, I think George & CinCin will be sure to appear even more in support of Casey--although it'll be interesting to see what's next with them.
    Dr. Golland says it's impossible to know if Casey is telling the truth, but her behavior is consistent with someone who has suffered from abuse.

    "I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of major trauma going on with in that house," she said.  ::MonkeyNoNo::  And that is why I have believed the Anthonys stand behind their daughter, for me nothing else makes sense, and believe me I've tried to make sense of them  ::MonkeyEek::

    O I dont doubt there was trauma, drama & abusive behavior such as emotional & at times physical by all of them & to each other.   We have witnessed the tempers flaring, harsh insults spewed, we've heard the accounts of hands around throats, hammer flaying, water hose assaults, shoving, etc. etc. and Im afraid more etc. but Im not inclined to believe Casey's allegations of sexual abuse by either her bro or dad for the reasons I previously stated, not to rehash.   Casey may exhibit some signs but those signs could also merely be attributed to the fact that she is a narcissistic sociopath as well (quite a few pages back in this thread one of our monkeys posted things exhibited typically by a sociopath which is rather spot on).


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Western Observr on April 07, 2010, 07:58:04 PM
    As a Lawyer on another site says," if Casey is thinking that being felt up by her brother will get her out of the DP she better think again..
    A large percentage of the general public have been abused in some way.
    A larger proportion of people in Jail have been abused in some way.
    Unless Casey had killed her abuser or someone who abused Caylee, this has nothing at all to do with the case".
    This girl lied all day every day, about everything in her life, she told outrageous lies about her family all the time. I can't imagine that out of all those incessant lies, this one story is the truth. It defies logic.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 08:01:28 PM
    As a Lawyer on another site says," if Casey is thinking that being felt up by her brother will get her out of the DP she better think again..
    A large percentage of the general public have been abused in some way.
    A larger proportion of people in Jail have been abused in some way.
    Unless Casey had killed her abuser or someone who abused Caylee, this has nothing at all to do with the case".
    This girl lied all day every day, about everything in her life, she told outrageous lies about her family all the time. I can't imagine that out of all those incessant lies, this one story is the truth. It defies logic.

    As previously read, I concur & reiterate that even if it were true there is no excuse why she would turn that into victimizing an innocent babygirl not even out of spite toward one of her abusers, nope no excuse & certainly no sympathy by moi.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 08:06:02 PM
    Sunny,here is the video of Cheney Mason 12/12/08   ::MonkeyCool::  (saw the link posted over at IS http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=366656&page=16  )
    http://web1.nyc.youtube.com/v/gWb_ZztZOKM&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b

    Well,that didn't work    ::MonkeyHaHa::

    http://www.youtube.com/v/gWb_ZztZOKM&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b

    OHMYGAWD!  that's terrific......wish I'd had that to put in the email...hells bells I might jsut send it to him anyway..thanks trim!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 08:10:55 PM
    I am by no means saying if Casey was sexually abused by a family member, this is an excuse for what she did to Caylee. All I've been wondering is if the Anthonys are standing behind her because of secrets in their home, such as this. I would have no idea if this happened or not. But there sure has to be some reason why they have lied and did all the things they did to protect Casey.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 08:11:59 PM
    Sunny,here is the video of Cheney Mason 12/12/08   ::MonkeyCool::  (saw the link posted over at IS http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=366656&page=16  )
    http://web1.nyc.youtube.com/v/gWb_ZztZOKM&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b

    Well,that didn't work    ::MonkeyHaHa::

    http://www.youtube.com/v/gWb_ZztZOKM&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b

    OHMYGAWD!  that's terrific......wish I'd had that to put in the email...hells bells I might jsut send it to him anyway..thanks trim!!

    I saw the words in the interview but the video...there it is in vivid color  MASON IS A HYPOCRITE!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 08:19:11 PM
    Casey’s Pen Pal Could Get Reduced Sentence
    Posted: 5:12 pm EDT April 7, 2010Updated: 6:24 pm EDT April 7, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's letters (read them) are the biggest development yet in the case against her. The inmate she wrote to, Robyn Adams, still has seven years to serve in a federal prison for a drug and weapons conviction.
    Instead of flushing Casey's letters as she promised, Adams mailed them to a friend for safekeeping on the chance they could clear Casey's name or convict her, or even help out Adams herself.

    The letters could be Adams' ticket out of prison. Maybe not right away, but her attorney could use the letters and cooperation with prosecutors in Casey Anthony's case to try to get time off her sentence.

    (http://www.wftv.com/2010/0407/23081906_187X180.jpg)
    Robyn Adams

    Adams is Casey's pen pal, the jail inmate who saved the 500 pages of letters written by Casey. They were mailed, along with her own letters, to a friend on the outside, Tracey Nealey.

    In Adams' letters, she reveals details about a seemingly depressed Casey, who was losing it behind bars and “crying all the time.”

    In one letter written more than a year ago, Adams even predicted Casey "will break down and talk." But, to this day, Casey hasn't.

    Even though Adams and Casey agreed to flush the letters down the toilet, Adams seems to have kept them for a reason, saying in one letter "they might hold some value in the future."

    But did she blow her chance to use them? WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer doesn’t think so.

    “Just handing over letters and saying, ‘I’m handing them over, I want something in return,’ at this juncture, just doesn't fly in the federal system,” Sheaffer said.

    Adams is serving a 10-year federal prison sentence after she and her husband, a former Altamonte Springs police officer, conspired to build a marijuana-growing operation. But, if she cooperates in providing letters and possibly testimony, after Casey's trial is over she and state prosecutors case could go back to federal prosecutors to help Adams get years cut off her sentence.

    “Since this substantial assistance is in the prosecution of a murder case, I would expect a substantial reduction in Adam's sentence by federal court,” Sheaffer said.

    But Adams may have missed out on the chance to cash in by selling the letters to the tabloids. One tabloid paper told WFTV exclusive access to the letters could have fetched as much $10,000.

    http://www.wftv.com/news/23081784/detail.html

    I hope Mr. S is right and I hope this does give her an opportunity to get a reduced sentence.......she didn't KILL her child(ren)........pot verse murder...I'd vote for the pot grower!!


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    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 08:22:59 PM


    yuknomenot, we haven't seen you in a while....you still in Christmas mode!  LOL   Sometimes I agree with this thought and other times I think there will be a last minute please deal...........guess we just have to wait and see

    Hi Sunny :), I am frequently here but rarely say anything because you all usually have it all covered!  Yes, I am still in Christmas mode from 2008  ::MonkeyHaHa::, I probably should have something done about it.  What concerns me about her taking a plea is that nothing will ever be done about the rest of the family, we all know they need to be held accountable for some of their actions (took me a while to figure out how to put that nicely, nice and Anthony don't mix so well  ::MonkeyDevil::).

    you are so right...nice and Anthony don't mix well.  I sincerely have my doubts that the parents or brother will ever be held accountable......not in this life.....but will be for sure in the next.    I am sure CBB or Brandi would be happy to change you out of you Christmas finery ::rhino::


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    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 08:28:06 PM
    http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/psychologist-casey-anthony-app.html
    WDBO Local News      
    Psychologist: Casey Anthony appears to have personality disorder
    By
    Drew Petrimoulx
    @ April 7, 2010 6:18 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
    Hundreds of pages in jail house letters are painting a picture of Casey Anthony's mental state after spending the last year and a half behind bars.

    "In my estimation Casey Anthony appears clinically to have personality disorder," Los Angeles clinical psychologist Dr. Michelle Golland told WDBO. 

    Dr. Golland also describes Casey as a "pathological liar."

    In the letters, Casey makes allegations that her older brother molested her when she was a young girl, and says her father may have also when she was too young to remember. 

    Dr. Golland says it's impossible to know if Casey is telling the truth, but her behavior is consistent with someone who has suffered from abuse.

    "I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of major trauma going on with in that house," she said.

    Dr. Golland told WDBO that she's not surprised Casey risked hurting her case by reaching out to another inmate, calling her "narcissistic and self involved" and saying Casey is always seeking attention because "it's never enough."
    The accusations against her family may cause them to abandon the unwavering support they've shown since she was arrested in the Summer of 2008, Dr Golland said.

    Both Casey's parents and her brother issued statements denying abuse the same day that the letters were made public.

    "This could be the tipping point," Dr. Golland said.

    I saw the statement Conman put out for the cretins...but didn't see a statement by Lee...anyone see it???


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    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 08:30:14 PM
    I am by no means saying if Casey was sexually abused by a family member, this is an excuse for what she did to Caylee. All I've been wondering is if the Anthonys are standing behind her because of secrets in their home, such as this. I would have no idea if this happened or not. But there sure has to be some reason why they have lied and did all the things they did to protect Casey.

    IMHO I think they feel responsible for a variety of reasons.  One being their own dysfunction and poor example that they will never admit to.   Another thing regarding Cindy specifically, she knows what she threatened Casey with & the argument they had...I think in the deep recesses of her mind she feels guilty that she did not safeguard Caylee & Casey acted to spite her in the worse way possible.  I think they have been defending her because neither of them EVER did anything constructively (key word being constructively) to address their monster's behavior & all they did was pour my fuel on the fire.  Cindy especially has never wanted to admit to the world that her daughter wasnt the princess she fantasized she would be, but from those genes its no wonder far from it.   I also think that in the very beginning when they began to help her conceal her crime after the fact, she then had leverage with them...beyond that is all speculative but o man o manochivitz how I look forward to seeing them get their due on the witness stand.   


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    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 08:38:27 PM
    I agree there are those reasons as well, especially the fight Cindy and Casey had.


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    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 08:38:56 PM
    Sunny  I didn't think anything about your statement about Caylee.  I,like you, wish Casey would get the DP but I just don't think a jury would do that.  (I started to say a jury of her peers, but I don't think there are 12 people in Orlando who are low enough to be her peers.)  And I do think it would be in the people of FL's interest to try to make a reasonable deal with the skank, but that's just my opinion and has no bearing on what will actually happen.

    I can't determine whether or not Casey is telling the truth about abuse by Lee and possibly George.  I tend to always believe this kind of thing when it is told by a victim.  Knowing that Casey is a vindictive little witch, I tend not to believe a word she says.  But it could be true.  Lee does seem like a strange person to me, but a sex pervert?  I don't know.

    I recently found out that a man whom I have known for 20 years and who died recently was a pedophile.  I wish I had known before he died so I could have confronted him with it but now I've been sworn to silence about it.  So who knows.  I was very surprised.  I'll just reserve judgement for now about Casey's truthfulness in this.

    thanks BB...I have really shied away from the abuse allegation discussion for several reasons....I knew a young girl who claimed sexual abuse by her father....he went to jail for nearly 15 years after being wrongly accused.........she only told what her mother told her happened.  He got out and committed suicide 15 days later..he was a broken man....he was father's best friend. My father stood by him knowing he would never had done that deed.  I know incest is probably more prevalent than we imagine. But Casey lies about so much and lives in a fantasy land of her own creation I tend not to believe anything she says. But if it's true....not excuse for killing your child.


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    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 08:42:40 PM
    If anything, I think George & CinCin will be sure to appear even more in support of Casey--although it'll be interesting to see what's next with them.

    Ono, I think you are correct.....if they don't make it appear they are supporting her they will fall out of any possible future licensing fees, I mean TV shows ::MonkeyNoNo::


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    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 08:45:52 PM
    As a Lawyer on another site says," if Casey is thinking that being felt up by her brother will get her out of the DP she better think again..
    A large percentage of the general public have been abused in some way.
    A larger proportion of people in Jail have been abused in some way.
    Unless Casey had killed her abuser or someone who abused Caylee, this has nothing at all to do with the case".
    This girl lied all day every day, about everything in her life, she told outrageous lies about her family all the time. I can't imagine that out of all those incessant lies, this one story is the truth. It defies logic.

    thanks to that Lawyer and to you......I totally agree


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    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 08:50:07 PM
    I am by no means saying if Casey was sexually abused by a family member, this is an excuse for what she did to Caylee. All I've been wondering is if the Anthonys are standing behind her because of secrets in their home, such as this. I would have no idea if this happened or not. But there sure has to be some reason why they have lied and did all the things they did to protect Casey.

    nrcg, I understood exactly what you were saying......I do not think there was any sexual abuse...but I do think there was a house full of very disturbed people...a prime example of a dysfunctional family....lead by sin-sin


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    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 08:53:53 PM
    I am by no means saying if Casey was sexually abused by a family member, this is an excuse for what she did to Caylee. All I've been wondering is if the Anthonys are standing behind her because of secrets in their home, such as this. I would have no idea if this happened or not. But there sure has to be some reason why they have lied and did all the things they did to protect Casey.

    nrcg, I understood exactly what you were saying......I do not think there was any sexual abuse...but I do think there was a house full of very disturbed people...a prime example of a dysfunctional family....lead by sin-sin
    I have no idea, and if not and she is saying such vile things, well like you were saying in your post about your father's best friend, the destruction that can happen to the person the accusations are being made too  ::MonkeyNoNo:: We may never really know.


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    Post by: Wyks on April 07, 2010, 09:16:12 PM

    There's supposedly a rule with jails/prisons that all incoming AND outgoing mail to/from inmates would be opened and inspected by staff before that mail is allowed in/out.  In fact there's supposedly the rule that inmates are not to seal their outgoing mail, to make it easier for staff to inspect before it gets sent.   Jail/prison staff can and does take a big black felt pen to cross things out in an inmate's letter going out, that they feel shouldn't be talked about etc.  Same with incoming mail, which is opened first by staff, read, thoroughly inspected for 'contraband', then given to the inmate.  Staff removes things from incoming/outgoing letters that isn't allowed.   Outgoing letters are sealed after inspection and mailed for the inmate. 

    So, considering all this... IMO the staff at the jail has more to answer for, than just that one officer who allowed the visiting time and note/letter exchanges between Casey/Robyn.  Cuz just how did Robyn manage to mail the book-smuggled notes/letters from Casey, OUT of the jail to her real BFF to keep for her, without the jail staff intercepting them?   IMO, the jail staff couldn't have been checking outgoing mail AT ALL, for Robyn to have been successful in sending that many notes/letters, that many times, out of the jail.   


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    Post by: Babybear on April 07, 2010, 09:19:19 PM
    What was the family statement that Conway said?

    "The Anthony family denies that there was any improper sexual behavior in their family nor was there ever a time when Casey told them of sexually inappropriate conduct by her brother or father," the family's attorney, Brad Conway, said in a statement.

    taken from http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/witness-reports-casey-anthony-knock-caylee/story?id=10301719
    Thank-you.  And like who are we suppose to believe in all this?  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    For the sake of argument---I fail to see how being the victim of incest somehow innoculates Casey from receiving just punishment if she should be proven in a court of law by the facts to be guilty of murdering Caylee.  God has commanded that we are to protect the innocent, weak, and punish the guilty.  Caylee was not guilty of breaking the law and did not deserve the punishment she received.

    ONO, you're right.  Whether or not Lee or George molested Casey has nothing whatsoever to do with her murdering Caylee, nor does it have anything to do with what punishment might be meted out.   

    It's quite clear, at least to me and I think many others, that she killed Caylee because she wanted to get even with Cindy, she wanted to party, she wanted to be the center of attention in the house again.  She is unspeakable.


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    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 09:19:32 PM
    Wyks, wow, I didn't know all that, yes there is a lot the jail has to answer to  ::MonkeyShocked::


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    Post by: Ono on April 07, 2010, 09:20:59 PM
    If anything, I think George & CinCin will be sure to appear even more in support of Casey--although it'll be interesting to see what's next with them.
    Dr. Golland says it's impossible to know if Casey is telling the truth, but her behavior is consistent with someone who has suffered from abuse.

    "I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of major trauma going on with in that house," she said.  ::MonkeyNoNo::  And that is why I have believed the Anthonys stand behind their daughter, for me nothing else makes sense, and believe me I've tried to make sense of them  ::MonkeyEek::

    I think major trauma in the Anthony home is a 'given'---but for some reason, I don't think sexual abuse was part of it.  Emotional & mental---fo sho--look how the general public has been abused!  lol  --Just watching it all has been abuse--even our neurons are blasting -- LOL! 

    This clan can't control their tempers.....And they can't even control themselves in a deposition!!!   Instead they seem to think it a virtue to be abrasive and to make complete idiots out of themselves.  In Mind Game Relays & Gymnastics, they are Gold Medalists !!   

    For some reason, though, I don't think there was incest---but I may be completely wrong.   Oh, but oh yeah---major trauma in that house!---fo sho.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 09:24:20 PM
    I am by no means saying if Casey was sexually abused by a family member, this is an excuse for what she did to Caylee. All I've been wondering is if the Anthonys are standing behind her because of secrets in their home, such as this. I would have no idea if this happened or not. But there sure has to be some reason why they have lied and did all the things they did to protect Casey.

    nrcg, I understood exactly what you were saying......I do not think there was any sexual abuse...but I do think there was a house full of very disturbed people...a prime example of a dysfunctional family....lead by sin-sin
    I have no idea, and if not and she is saying such vile things, well like you were saying in your post about your father's best friend, the destruction that can happen to the person the accusations are being made too  ::MonkeyNoNo:: We may never really know.

    and that's the really sad part of this.....are Lee and georgie pedophiles or more of Casey's victims??


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    Post by: BooMonkey on April 07, 2010, 09:24:30 PM
    I am by no means saying if Casey was sexually abused by a family member, this is an excuse for what she did to Caylee. All I've been wondering is if the Anthonys are standing behind her because of secrets in their home, such as this. I would have no idea if this happened or not. But there sure has to be some reason why they have lied and did all the things they did to protect Casey.

    nrcg, I understood exactly what you were saying......I do not think there was any sexual abuse...but I do think there was a house full of very disturbed people...a prime example of a dysfunctional family....lead by sin-sin
    I have no idea, and if not and she is saying such vile things, well like you were saying in your post about your father's best friend, the destruction that can happen to the person the accusations are being made too  ::MonkeyNoNo:: We may never really know.

    But this is the whole point of why Casey is making these sexual abuse insinuations. She mentioned that she found out that when Lee visited her last, he was "working" for the Feds and not protecting her. She was out to get him. Same with George, he told the Feds things that did not put Casey in a good light, check mark next to his name. Anyone that crosses Casey will be on the hit list. Casey will go down, but she is bound and determined to bring the rest of the family with her. I know she mentioned Lee molesting her to Jesse before this all happened, but I think it was to get sympathy from him. To spark that Knight in shining armor gene and hopefully take her away from her situation. No one is ever "safe" around her. Now I'm sure Robyn will be on her hit list. 


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    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 09:26:06 PM

    There's supposedly a rule with jails/prisons that all incoming AND outgoing mail to/from inmates would be opened and inspected by staff before that mail is allowed in/out.  In fact there's supposedly the rule that inmates are not to seal their outgoing mail, to make it easier for staff to inspect before it gets sent.   Jail/prison staff can and does take a big black felt pen to cross things out in an inmate's letter going out, that they feel shouldn't be talked about etc.  Same with incoming mail, which is opened first by staff, read, thoroughly inspected for 'contraband', then given to the inmate.  Staff removes things from incoming/outgoing letters that isn't allowed.   Outgoing letters are sealed after inspection and mailed for the inmate. 

    So, considering all this... IMO the staff at the jail has more to answer for, than just that one officer who allowed the visiting time and note/letter exchanges between Casey/Robyn.  Cuz just how did Robyn manage to mail the book-smuggled notes/letters from Casey, OUT of the jail to her real BFF to keep for her, without the jail staff intercepting them?   IMO, the jail staff couldn't have been checking outgoing mail AT ALL, for Robyn to have been successful in sending that many notes/letters, that many times, out of the jail.   


    thanks Wyks, I thought the outgoing mail was supposed to be checked and wondered how Adams got all that mail out!


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    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 07, 2010, 09:29:21 PM

    Once again my eyes are fried as is what little brain matter I have left....so I will bid y'all good night......TTYL ::MonkeyKiss::


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    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 09:30:41 PM
    I am by no means saying if Casey was sexually abused by a family member, this is an excuse for what she did to Caylee. All I've been wondering is if the Anthonys are standing behind her because of secrets in their home, such as this. I would have no idea if this happened or not. But there sure has to be some reason why they have lied and did all the things they did to protect Casey.

    nrcg, I understood exactly what you were saying......I do not think there was any sexual abuse...but I do think there was a house full of very disturbed people...a prime example of a dysfunctional family....lead by sin-sin
    I have no idea, and if not and she is saying such vile things, well like you were saying in your post about your father's best friend, the destruction that can happen to the person the accusations are being made too  ::MonkeyNoNo:: We may never really know.

    and that's the really sad part of this.....are Lee and georgie pedophiles or more of Casey's victims??
    The damage has been done, it is out there now for people to see. Even if it is lies, people will wonder did George and Lee do this.


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    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 07, 2010, 09:31:59 PM

    Once again my eyes are fried as is what little brain matter I have left....so I will bid y'all good night......TTYL ::MonkeyKiss::
    Good night, I have had enough reading for the day also.


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    Post by: Ono on April 07, 2010, 10:06:13 PM
    I am by no means saying if Casey was sexually abused by a family member, this is an excuse for what she did to Caylee. All I've been wondering is if the Anthonys are standing behind her because of secrets in their home, such as this. I would have no idea if this happened or not. But there sure has to be some reason why they have lied and did all the things they did to protect Casey.

    NoRose--have no fear, we know you aren't saying that, but come penalty phase time, you can bet your boots A.L. will be saying it, or something equivalent, IMO.

    IMO, it's possible they lie because they have no compunction about lying, ... that's what the've always done-- it's their way of life, either telling it or living it.   Protecting the family myth that they are the Ozzie & Harriett of Hopespring and there's no way an Anthony would murder a family member.  To heck you say---why, the Stork brought Caylee anyway, doncha know?  Casey was selling Girl Scout cookies one day and returned with Caylee.  Or... they are somehow involved in doing something bad --- maybe by obstructing justice.   It's a toss up.   


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 10:10:28 PM
    I am by no means saying if Casey was sexually abused by a family member, this is an excuse for what she did to Caylee. All I've been wondering is if the Anthonys are standing behind her because of secrets in their home, such as this. I would have no idea if this happened or not. But there sure has to be some reason why they have lied and did all the things they did to protect Casey.

    nrcg, I understood exactly what you were saying......I do not think there was any sexual abuse...but I do think there was a house full of very disturbed people...a prime example of a dysfunctional family....lead by sin-sin
    I have no idea, and if not and she is saying such vile things, well like you were saying in your post about your father's best friend, the destruction that can happen to the person the accusations are being made too  ::MonkeyNoNo:: We may never really know.

    But this is the whole point of why Casey is making these sexual abuse insinuations. She mentioned that she found out that when Lee visited her last, he was "working" for the Feds and not protecting her. She was out to get him. Same with George, he told the Feds things that did not put Casey in a good light, check mark next to his name. Anyone that crosses Casey will be on the hit list. Casey will go down, but she is bound and determined to bring the rest of the family with her. I know she mentioned Lee molesting her to Jesse before this all happened, but I think it was to get sympathy from him. To spark that Knight in shining armor gene and hopefully take her away from her situation. No one is ever "safe" around her. Now I'm sure Robyn will be on her hit list. 

    Boo, you and I are on the same page with this.   She told Jesse & Tony because they both were supposed to be her protector & provider, both were edging away from her & this is what she used trying to garnerr sympathy.   As far as her accusations, she used Lee like a used dish rag until she found out that he wasnt necessarily going to the death for her & she has turned her back on him. 


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    Post by: Ono on April 07, 2010, 10:22:55 PM
    Good night !      ::MonkeyBike::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 10:22:56 PM
    I am by no means saying if Casey was sexually abused by a family member, this is an excuse for what she did to Caylee. All I've been wondering is if the Anthonys are standing behind her because of secrets in their home, such as this. I would have no idea if this happened or not. But there sure has to be some reason why they have lied and did all the things they did to protect Casey.

    nrcg, I understood exactly what you were saying......I do not think there was any sexual abuse...but I do think there was a house full of very disturbed people...a prime example of a dysfunctional family....lead by sin-sin
    I have no idea, and if not and she is saying such vile things, well like you were saying in your post about your father's best friend, the destruction that can happen to the person the accusations are being made too  ::MonkeyNoNo:: We may never really know.

    But this is the whole point of why Casey is making these sexual abuse insinuations. She mentioned that she found out that when Lee visited her last, he was "working" for the Feds and not protecting her. She was out to get him. Same with George, he told the Feds things that did not put Casey in a good light, check mark next to his name. Anyone that crosses Casey will be on the hit list. Casey will go down, but she is bound and determined to bring the rest of the family with her. I know she mentioned Lee molesting her to Jesse before this all happened, but I think it was to get sympathy from him. To spark that Knight in shining armor gene and hopefully take her away from her situation. No one is ever "safe" around her. Now I'm sure Robyn will be on her hit list. 

    Boo, you and I are on the same page with this.   She told Jesse & Tony because they both were supposed to be her protector & provider, both were edging away from her & this is what she used trying to garner sympathy.   As far as her accusations, she used Lee until she found out that he wasnt necessarily going to the death for her & she has turned her back on him. 

    Opps I dont know what happened that it posted as I was typing but to continue...in her letters she very pointedly talked about how her mother told her that she didnt know if they would stay together after hearing  his FBI interview & Casey was pissed.  Funny it isnt that she speaks of despising & then she is reaching out her hand & acting like she cares about her family so much & misses them....it is all a bunch of hooey!  Even before we knew her name she had already told Amy how she was upset with her father for reportedly having an affair & that her parents were getting divorced, in the same breathe she made up a lie that he ended up in the hospital (heart attack, if memory serves) and she acted concerned...another big fat lie.   Casey uses people for her purpose, her feelings for them is like the wind in a storm...chaotic, unpredictable, inconsistent & sometimes extremely dangerous.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 10:28:16 PM
    I am by no means saying if Casey was sexually abused by a family member, this is an excuse for what she did to Caylee. All I've been wondering is if the Anthonys are standing behind her because of secrets in their home, such as this. I would have no idea if this happened or not. But there sure has to be some reason why they have lied and did all the things they did to protect Casey.

    NoRose--have no fear, we know you aren't saying that, but come penalty phase time, you can bet your boots A.L. will be saying it, or something equivalent, IMO.

    IMO, it's possible they lie because they have no compunction about lying, ... that's what the've always done-- it's their way of life, either telling it or living it.   Protecting the family myth that they are the Ozzie & Harriett of Hopespring and there's no way an Anthony would murder a family member.  To heck you say---why, the Stork brought Caylee anyway, doncha know?  Casey was selling Girl Scout cookies one day and returned with Caylee.  Or... they are somehow involved in doing something bad --- maybe by obstructing justice.   It's a toss up.   

    I needed that chuckle Ono....let's not forget now Casey was a virgin....O my they tried to pass Casey's hoedowns as the immaculate conception.    You cant make this stuff up, but an Anthony can!


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    Post by: Babybear on April 07, 2010, 10:54:12 PM
    There are two things I'd like to bring up.  The first is that I believe that falsely accusing someone of sexual abuse, being a pedophile, rapist, etc. is just about the worst thing a person can do.  Conversely, sexually abusing a child is a crime which can ruin the child's life.  It too is one of the worst things a person can do.  And I have recently learned that a sex pervert can look and act and speak just like the rest of us.  They don't all look like that disgusting person who kidnapped and raped Jaycee Dugard.
    I don't know if Casey is telling the truth, but given the fact that "Ms. Anthony and the truth are strangers," as Judge Strickland said, probably not. 

    The other thing is that IMO if a mother fails her child, it doesn't matter what else she might accomplish.  She has failed. It is her duty to love and protect and guide her child. And I believe Cindy Anthony has failed Casey in many ways, most apparent is not getting her the psychological help she sorely needed, when she first began lying and stealing.  Cindy enabled her.  IMO Cindy's life is a complete failure because of this.

    I won't even bring up Casey's life as a mother.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 07, 2010, 11:16:52 PM

    There's supposedly a rule with jails/prisons that all incoming AND outgoing mail to/from inmates would be opened and inspected by staff before that mail is allowed in/out.  In fact there's supposedly the rule that inmates are not to seal their outgoing mail, to make it easier for staff to inspect before it gets sent.   Jail/prison staff can and does take a big black felt pen to cross things out in an inmate's letter going out, that they feel shouldn't be talked about etc.  Same with incoming mail, which is opened first by staff, read, thoroughly inspected for 'contraband', then given to the inmate.  Staff removes things from incoming/outgoing letters that isn't allowed.   Outgoing letters are sealed after inspection and mailed for the inmate. 

    So, considering all this... IMO the staff at the jail has more to answer for, than just that one officer who allowed the visiting time and note/letter exchanges between Casey/Robyn.  Cuz just how did Robyn manage to mail the book-smuggled notes/letters from Casey, OUT of the jail to her real BFF to keep for her, without the jail staff intercepting them?   IMO, the jail staff couldn't have been checking outgoing mail AT ALL, for Robyn to have been successful in sending that many notes/letters, that many times, out of the jail.   


    I thought of that too.

    Didn't Casey get her boys to help represent Robyn also?

    Maybe they were taking then out of the jail to mail them?

    Just a thought.

    Either way, someone has a lot to answer to!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 07, 2010, 11:31:49 PM
    I've always wondered if Lee's mournful "CMA, CMA, etc." emotional outburst at the memorial service was really being directed toward little Caylee and not toward Casey at all.

    his entire 'show' was very confusing to me......he is a strange duck to be sure.

    The CMA stuff was for Caylee..Lee was out of the picture by that time.  He had his fill of putting up with her bizarre behavior.  He was probably the most normal of the A's..he knew what had happened..per GA's talk with River..and had more balls then Ga ever had or will have.  He had enough of Cindy's covering for her..he wanted out.  He clearly saw what was going down..and Casey's answer..let's dis the family.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 11:33:14 PM
    Did we know we are getting more discovery sometime this month, in a WFTV report on yesterday's release that is what they reported at the end as to what is coming up in the case.   More discovery to be released sometime this month & a pretrial hearing in th civil case in May which I think most of us have seen already.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 07, 2010, 11:35:36 PM
    I've always wondered if Lee's mournful "CMA, CMA, etc." emotional outburst at the memorial service was really being directed toward little Caylee and not toward Casey at all.

    his entire 'show' was very confusing to me......he is a strange duck to be sure.

    The CMA stuff was for Caylee..Lee was out of the picture by that time.  He had his fill of putting up with her bizarre behavior.  He was probably the most normal of the A's..he knew what had happened..per GA's talk with River..and had more balls then Ga ever had or will have.  He had enough of Cindy's covering for her..he wanted out.  He clearly saw what was going down..and Casey's answer..let's dis the family.

    Now there is one Anthony I would like to hear an in depth conversation with, curious minds want to know.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 07, 2010, 11:43:00 PM
    I really do not think Casey was ever in her life sexually abused.  She represents the stalking personality to me.  I have worked in this field many years...and she does not exhibit the traits of a victim of sexual abuse.  She does represent the traits of a user, sexual, monetary, whatever way she can to preserve her reality..note her reality..not ours./

    She has sociopathic behavior, combined with other personality disorders.  She is playing the public..and her family.  I would have added friends..but she has no concept of friends other then how they can benefit her end result.   She is not mentally unable to tell the difference from right and wrong..she just chooses to take the path she thinks will benefit her in the moment.

    Sociopaths do not think much about tomorrow..they are living in the moment of what they crave now.  They think they can distort reality enough tomorrow to make today's pursuit worthwhile.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Tevye on April 08, 2010, 12:32:20 AM
    http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/psychologist-casey-anthony-app.html
    WDBO Local News      
    Psychologist: Casey Anthony appears to have personality disorder

    I'm sure someone has said this hours before, but...."No snit, Sherlock! ya THINK?!"


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Curly on April 08, 2010, 12:34:19 AM
    http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/psychologist-casey-anthony-app.html
    WDBO Local News      
    Psychologist: Casey Anthony appears to have personality disorder

    I'm sure someone has said this hours before, but...."No snit, Sherlock! ya THINK?!"

    Lol! First thing I said when I read it!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: akmom on April 08, 2010, 12:34:39 AM
    Also on the property reports I see references to pill bottles.  I remember they took many from
    Cindy's medicine cabinet.  I wonder if testing shows Casey's prints on mommies medicines??????  I am also very confused that at the bottom of the property report on page 40 I believe it says:

    This evidence packaging contains secondary evidence from more than 1 case(as listed).  What in the world does that mean??????

     Im not sure how to copy this doc your talking about but i do agree there is 2 case numbers and see exactly what you mean. 1st part is listed under case #08-122093 and case #08-069208. The second part is listed only as under case #08-069208. Maybe a smarter monkey can tell us which those cases are not sure but i do understand and wonder the same thing. Sorry to take so long to respond but wanted to make sure i was reading it all right. Its been alot of reading overload last couple days lol. Maybe KLass can do a screen shot of page 40 of page 2 Docs.

      I see that the case #08-069208 starts on page 31. Top right corner are the case 3's so thats the best i can do. not sure if it was any help AKMom


    Thank you, I am still puzzled by it.  Also the rest of the property report from this doc cump all of which I believe is dated 1/14/10.  I believe there may be a lot here that we don't know.  I believe what we don't have is all of the results from the testing of these things, which would tell us  more.....I need to research more on the weed barrier plastic and find the mention of it.  I am hopeful that it matches what was under the trees in the area that LE was searching in the Anthony back yard.  You could see plastic, I believe where LE was putting markers under the mulch, beneath the palm trees


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 08, 2010, 12:46:29 AM
    I was going to take Caylee and move away with the money I saved -  yep that's our Casey, still scamming people.She told Amy a similar story, before she robbed her..

    Saved?  how....by stealing from family and friends!!

    If you remember she told a number of people she had $15,000 saved. I have always wondered where she planned on getting that money. Some speculated it was going to be the $15,000 insurance policy on Caylee or that it was the one on CA through her work. I have still NEVER heard about any insurance policies although there was something discussed with CA in one of the interviews.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: akmom on April 08, 2010, 12:59:02 AM
    I need to go for the night but I admit I just cannot make up my mind whether I think there may have been sexual abuse in the Anthony home or not.   What I come back to over and over though is how the heck did this family get so twisted??????  Maybe it is just that to look at them from the outside, they should have been the American dream.  Happy little family with a home, two kids, then a grand that although was unexpected, should have been loved more than life.  Instead it is like a nightmare.  What was going on behind closed doors that set all this in motion.

    Tis a puzzlement.....


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 08, 2010, 01:11:17 AM

    I just took a break from reading and that was one of the things I read - I could not believe it - she is a movie star and a law professional etc......what blows my mind is how she is giving herself permission to move forward (because that is what God told her to do)  which in essence means she is giving herself permission to forget what she did to Caylee - it has no relevance in her mind - what's done is done.... time to move on. Seriously????  She is freaking nuts.  I can't even put into words how nuts she is.

    the more I read, the more convinced I am that she has no touch with reality at all..... ::MonkeyNoNo::she lives in her own world of make believe..........she will do just fine in prison...in fact, I believe she will thrive in her little make believe world.
    I agree she will thrive and I will bet money she has been in her little make believe world for a very long time.
    All of the above is why I believe there will be a trial.  There's no way Casey will accept a plea bargain, she isn't going to give up her time in the spotlight.  She will lose out on all that face time on TV during a trial and then would have to give up the "celebrity"  ::MonkeyMad:: status she is claiming in those letters.   
    [/quote]

    Right...KC "thinks" she's going to be found not guilty and be out of jail in a few months; KC thinks that she's going to write several books;  KC obviously thinks her books will sell because she's dreaming of having a place of her own...maybe in NC where she will have 4 seasons...and a little place of her own...that she will live a simple life....blah...blah..blah!



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 08, 2010, 01:48:00 AM
    Also on the property reports I see references to pill bottles.  I remember they took many from
    Cindy's medicine cabinet.  I wonder if testing shows Casey's prints on mommies medicines??????  I am also very confused that at the bottom of the property report on page 40 I believe it says:

    This evidence packaging contains secondary evidence from more than 1 case(as listed).  What in the world does that mean??????

     Im not sure how to copy this doc your talking about but i do agree there is 2 case numbers and see exactly what you mean. 1st part is listed under case #08-122093 and case #08-069208. The second part is listed only as under case #08-069208. Maybe a smarter monkey can tell us which those cases are not sure but i do understand and wonder the same thing. Sorry to take so long to respond but wanted to make sure i was reading it all right. Its been alot of reading overload last couple days lol. Maybe KLass can do a screen shot of page 40 of page 2 Docs.

      I see that the case #08-069208 starts on page 31. Top right corner are the case 3's so thats the best i can do. not sure if it was any help AKMom


    Thank you, I am still puzzled by it.  Also the rest of the property report from this doc cump all of which I believe is dated 1/14/10.  I believe there may be a lot here that we don't know.  I believe what we don't have is all of the results from the testing of these things, which would tell us  more.....I need to research more on the weed barrier plastic and find the mention of it.  I am hopeful that it matches what was under the trees in the area that LE was searching in the Anthony back yard.  You could see plastic, I believe where LE was putting markers under the mulch, beneath the palm trees

    It is possible to go to the "myclerk" site and key in "case number" to find out what the two cases are?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 06:39:36 AM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Details of Casey Anthony Friendship Surface
    04/08/10


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 06:44:00 AM
    http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/cops-casey-anthony-told-inmate-caylees-remains/story?id=10315519

    Cops: Casey Anthony Told Inmate Too Much About Caylee's Remains
    04/07/10
    Inmate Claims Casey Anthony Knew Caylee's Remains Were With Baby Blanket Before Public Did
    Casey Anthony  knew details about her 2-year-old daughter Caylee Anthony's remains before they were made public knowledge, according to a police interview with a fellow inmate of Anthony's.
    "After a chaplain informed Casey Anthony of the recovery, Casey Anthony told [inmate] Robyn Adams law enforcement had found the body of a small child with a baby blanket inside a black garbage bag," police said in the witness report, which was included in hundreds of pages of documents released by prosecutors Tuesday.

    "As a note, the information regarding the baby blanket and black garbage bag was not made known to the jail chaplain so Casey Anthony had knowledge of items only the suspect, certain law enforcement personnel and the certain medical examiner's personnel knew," the report said.
    Anthony's conversation with Adams allegedly took place soon after Dec. 11, 2008, the day media outlets including ABC News reported a child's skull had been found by a utility worker less than a mile from the Anthony home.

    The detail about the baby blanket did not come to light until the next month, when the state attorney's office released a report on items discovered with the remains.

    Adams also told police that once when searchers previously thought they had found Caylee's remains but were mistaken, Anthony giggled "not like in an evil way ... like ... it's not my daughter," the witness report said.

    But once the set of remains were found near her home, Anthony became terrified, Adams said. Those remains were later identified as Caylee's.

    Casey Anthony is awaiting trial on first-degree murder charges in the death of Caylee and has been in an Orange County, Fla., jail since the summer of 2008. She has pleaded not guilty.
    <snipped>


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 06:48:35 AM
    Also on the property reports I see references to pill bottles.  I remember they took many from
    Cindy's medicine cabinet.  I wonder if testing shows Casey's prints on mommies medicines??????  I am also very confused that at the bottom of the property report on page 40 I believe it says:

    This evidence packaging contains secondary evidence from more than 1 case(as listed).  What in the world does that mean??????

     Im not sure how to copy this doc your talking about but i do agree there is 2 case numbers and see exactly what you mean. 1st part is listed under case #08-122093 and case #08-069208. The second part is listed only as under case #08-069208. Maybe a smarter monkey can tell us which those cases are not sure but i do understand and wonder the same thing. Sorry to take so long to respond but wanted to make sure i was reading it all right. Its been alot of reading overload last couple days lol. Maybe KLass can do a screen shot of page 40 of page 2 Docs.

      I see that the case #08-069208 starts on page 31. Top right corner are the case 3's so thats the best i can do. not sure if it was any help AKMom


    Thank you, I am still puzzled by it.  Also the rest of the property report from this doc cump all of which I believe is dated 1/14/10.  I believe there may be a lot here that we don't know.  I believe what we don't have is all of the results from the testing of these things, which would tell us  more.....I need to research more on the weed barrier plastic and find the mention of it.  I am hopeful that it matches what was under the trees in the area that LE was searching in the Anthony back yard.  You could see plastic, I believe where LE was putting markers under the mulch, beneath the palm trees

    It is possible to go to the "myclerk" site and key in "case number" to find out what the two cases are?


    Says they are invalid numbers. ::rhino::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Nut44x4 on April 08, 2010, 06:59:50 AM
    SNIPED

    OK, someone has to say it although Im not trying to be mean per se but what the heck happened to that girl's face?

    I think she has been crying.

    Yea, but it looks soooo swollen & the redness in the cheek areas seem a bit more severe than a gag of crying...I dont know.

    Probably her booking/mug shot photo. Wouldn't you be crying, lol?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 07:49:02 AM
    Prime News video 04/07/10
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947

    Issues with Jane Velez Mitchell  04/07/10
    Transcript
    http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/07/ijvm.01.html


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 08:05:34 AM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Details of Casey Anthony Friendship Surface
    04/08/10


    Good Morning Monks!  thanks trim......I questioned the scissors as well...Ms. Hernandez gave an accused murdered a pair of scissors........and opened the cell door..........she is a danger to herself and the the jail....she needs to go.  IMO


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 08:09:03 AM
    http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/cops-casey-anthony-told-inmate-caylees-remains/story?id=10315519

    Cops: Casey Anthony Told Inmate Too Much About Caylee's Remains
    04/07/10
    Inmate Claims Casey Anthony Knew Caylee's Remains Were With Baby Blanket Before Public Did
    Casey Anthony  knew details about her 2-year-old daughter Caylee Anthony's remains before they were made public knowledge, according to a police interview with a fellow inmate of Anthony's.
    "After a chaplain informed Casey Anthony of the recovery, Casey Anthony told [inmate] Robyn Adams law enforcement had found the body of a small child with a baby blanket inside a black garbage bag," police said in the witness report, which was included in hundreds of pages of documents released by prosecutors Tuesday.

    "As a note, the information regarding the baby blanket and black garbage bag was not made known to the jail chaplain so Casey Anthony had knowledge of items only the suspect, certain law enforcement personnel and the certain medical examiner's personnel knew," the report said.
    Anthony's conversation with Adams allegedly took place soon after Dec. 11, 2008, the day media outlets including ABC News reported a child's skull had been found by a utility worker less than a mile from the Anthony home.

    The detail about the baby blanket did not come to light until the next month, when the state attorney's office released a report on items discovered with the remains.

    Adams also told police that once when searchers previously thought they had found Caylee's remains but were mistaken, Anthony giggled "not like in an evil way ... like ... it's not my daughter," the witness report said.

    But once the set of remains were found near her home, Anthony became terrified, Adams said. Those remains were later identified as Caylee's.

    Casey Anthony is awaiting trial on first-degree murder charges in the death of Caylee and has been in an Orange County, Fla., jail since the summer of 2008. She has pleaded not guilty.
    <snipped>

    KC's need to inform Adams about how much she knew, will be part of her downfall......
    We see it all the time and it never ceases to amaze .......people who just have to brag and boast to others in order to make themselves looks superior (in their eyes anyway)


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 08:10:30 AM
    Also on the property reports I see references to pill bottles.  I remember they took many from
    Cindy's medicine cabinet.  I wonder if testing shows Casey's prints on mommies medicines??????  I am also very confused that at the bottom of the property report on page 40 I believe it says:

    This evidence packaging contains secondary evidence from more than 1 case(as listed).  What in the world does that mean??????

     Im not sure how to copy this doc your talking about but i do agree there is 2 case numbers and see exactly what you mean. 1st part is listed under case #08-122093 and case #08-069208. The second part is listed only as under case #08-069208. Maybe a smarter monkey can tell us which those cases are not sure but i do understand and wonder the same thing. Sorry to take so long to respond but wanted to make sure i was reading it all right. Its been alot of reading overload last couple days lol. Maybe KLass can do a screen shot of page 40 of page 2 Docs.

      I see that the case #08-069208 starts on page 31. Top right corner are the case 3's so thats the best i can do. not sure if it was any help AKMom


    Thank you, I am still puzzled by it.  Also the rest of the property report from this doc cump all of which I believe is dated 1/14/10.  I believe there may be a lot here that we don't know.  I believe what we don't have is all of the results from the testing of these things, which would tell us  more.....I need to research more on the weed barrier plastic and find the mention of it.  I am hopeful that it matches what was under the trees in the area that LE was searching in the Anthony back yard.  You could see plastic, I believe where LE was putting markers under the mulch, beneath the palm trees

    It is possible to go to the "myclerk" site and key in "case number" to find out what the two cases are?


    Says they are invalid numbers. ::rhino::

    I might be wrong...but I think those would be the  LE case numbers, not the court case numbers.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 08:12:46 AM
    SNIPED

    OK, someone has to say it although Im not trying to be mean per se but what the heck happened to that girl's face?

    I think she has been crying.

    Yea, but it looks soooo swollen & the redness in the cheek areas seem a bit more severe than a gag of crying...I dont know.

    Probably her booking/mug shot photo. Wouldn't you be crying, lol?
    Nut, you are correct...I don't have a link...but I remember reading about her booking picture almost not looking like her because her face was so red and swollen from crying and IMO the picture show that very clearly....


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 08:15:48 AM
    Prime News video 04/07/10
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947

    Issues with Jane Velez Mitchell  04/07/10
    Transcript
    http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/07/ijvm.01.html

    thanks trim....this is one show I really can't watch....JVM really gets my blood pressure raging.......perhaps I can read the transcript


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 08:27:05 AM



    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-letters-20100406,0,1662653,full.story

    In an undated later to her jailmate friend, whom she called "Cookie," Anthony wrote that she blamed herself for her brother fondling her over a three-year period, from when she was 12 to when she was 15. She also wrote that she would wake up in the middle of the night with brother Lee Anthony staring at her from the floor of her bedroom.

    Casey wrote that she told her mother about the behavior and that Cindy Anthony's response was "that he was sleep walking."

    Lee Anthony did not return voice mails or e-mails for comment.

    George and Cindy Anthony denied the allegations.

    "The Anthony family denies that there was any improper sexual behavior in their family, nor was there ever a time when Casey told them of sexually inappropriate conduct by her brother or father," Anthony family attorney Brad Conway said in an e-mail.



    So the A's are now saying the candidate for Mother of the year .........   LIED about their perfect family.  Or will this just one of those mistruths sin-sin mentioned ::MonkeyDevil::


    I read that Lee made a statment but have not been able to find it.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 08:30:14 AM
    Prime News video 04/07/10
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947

    Issues with Jane Velez Mitchell  04/07/10
    Transcript
    http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/07/ijvm.01.html

    thanks trim....this is one show I really can't watch....JVM really gets my blood pressure raging.......perhaps I can read the transcript

    I don't like to watch her either.   ::MonkeyJnBox::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 08:34:08 AM
    http://www.ecanadanow.com/entertainment/2010/04/08/anthony-may-have-put-the-final-nail-in-her-own-coffin/
    Anthony May Have Put the Final Nail in Her Own Coffin

    Posted by Staff on Apr 8th, 2010 // No Comment

    It seems that Casey Anthony thought she found a friend in fellow inmates Robyn Adams and Maya Derkovic. She trusted them so much that she leaked information that could be just what her prosecutors need to get the sentence that they are looking for in the case of Anthony’s daughter, Caylee.

    Anthony exchanged well over 50 different letters with fellow inmate Adams. In these letters she disclosed that she use to use different drugs to “knock out” her deceased daughter in order to allow her to leave her baby girl at home while she went out to party with friends. She said that this would relieve her of the responsibility and expense of having to find a babysitter. Derkovic told reporters that Anthony shared the same type story with her, only Anthony did not say that she “knocked out” Caylee.

    This is very incriminating information given the fact that chloroform likely could have been a major cause of the 2-year-old girl’s death. Investigators say that there was evidence of chloroform found in the trunk of Anthony’s car; there was also a syringe found near the body of the deceased toddler.

    Casey is awaiting trial for first degree murder in the case of the death of her 2 year-old-daughter, Caylee; she has been in jail since summer of 2008 and has plead not guilty.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Nut44x4 on April 08, 2010, 08:51:03 AM
    Trim......lol @ your siggy line  ::MonkeyHaHa::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 08:54:09 AM
    Trim......lol @ your siggy line  ::MonkeyHaHa::

     ::MonkeyDance::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 09:12:13 AM
    http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23085002/detail.html
    Details Of Anthony Jail Friendship Surface
    Inmate Alleges Anthony Briefly Given Pair Of Scissors

    POSTED: Wednesday, April 7, 2010
    UPDATED: 7:56 am EDT April 8, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. -- Was Casey Anthony allowed to spend the night with another inmate? And was she given a pair of scissors behind bars?

    New information is surfacing in court documents about a friendship between a female inmate and Anthony, the woman accused of killing her own daughter.
    Using a hand-drawn map of the Orange County Jail's women's dorm, inmate Robyn Adams showed investigators where she was housed -- in cell 19 upstairs. She said Casey Anthony was locked up downstairs in cell 12.

    At first, the two women would communicate with each other with flashed hand signals across a room, Adams said.

    But when corrections officers caught on, Adams was moved to a different cell so the two inmates could no longer see each other, Adams said.

    That's when Anthony first started writing letters, which she would stuff between the pages of a book titled, "Let's Do Away With August," Adams said.

    Nearly every morning, Anthony would leave that book on a cart in the dorm's common area and Adams would pick it up at night, Adams said.

    When Anthony returned to jail in September 2008, she was locked up in cell 22. According to Adams, that is where the two women began meeting face to face whenever Adams was allowed to watch TV by herself in the common area. Adams said corrections officer Silvia Hernandez allowed the two women to talk through the slit in Anthony's cell door, which is against jail rules.

    "We would talk to each other through the bean hole. We would talk for hours," Adams told investigators.
    On occasion, Hernandez would allegedly open the cell door so Anthony and Adams could see each other, Adams claimed. And once, the corrections officer actually allowed her inside Anthony's cell, which is an allegation Hernandez denies, Adams said.

    Hernandez said that on one occasion she let Anthony cut Adams' hair.

    "Robyn wanted her bangs cut," Hernandez told investigators.

    "I took Robyn to the door of Casey Anthony and I gave her the scissors and said, 'Go ahead and cut the bang right there at the door,'" Hernandez said.

    Hernandez admits she knew Anthony and Adams were improperly passing letters. The corrections officer did not facilitate the communication, but she said she did not stop it either.

    Meanwhile, new allegations are surfacing that Anthony attorney Jose Baez also broke jail rules by secretly passing messages to his client.

    In her letters, Casey Anthony wrote, "My attorney is keeping tabs on my family for me, and exchanging letters between us."

    In another letter, Anthony claims her attorney is trying to "smuggle" in some word search puzzles.

    Baez has declined comment since the letters were released. A Chicago-based legal team for Anthony on Tuesday released a statement that said in part, "The letters released today reflect the natural desire for companionship when isolated for 23 hours a day, and clearly demonstrate Casey's unconditional love for her daughter Caylee. Despite these intentions, it is obvious in the letters authored by Robyn Adams that her sole purpose and only goal in corresponding with Casey Anthony was to create 'leverage to get out of prison early.' "
    Outside the attorney's entrance at the jail, a sign clearly states that "Attorneys are not authorized to convey to an inmate any written communication of a personal nature."


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: monkalicious on April 08, 2010, 09:14:29 AM
    Mornin', Monks!  Interesting stuff out there lately, huh?  Robyn Adams seems pretty manipulative herself, even with all the religous trappings.  Her letters to her friend Tracy appears to suggest that she is using Casey.  She also acts like a victim, as if she had nothing to do with her own crime, and that she was betrayed by the confidential informant, David Badali.  Robyn seems to have more in common with Casey than at first glance. 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: monkalicious on April 08, 2010, 09:29:19 AM
    http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23085002/detail.html
    Details Of Anthony Jail Friendship Surface
    Inmate Alleges Anthony Briefly Given Pair Of Scissors

    POSTED: Wednesday, April 7, 2010
    UPDATED: 7:56 am EDT April 8, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. -- Was Casey Anthony allowed to spend the night with another inmate? And was she given a pair of scissors behind bars?

    New information is surfacing in court documents about a friendship between a female inmate and Anthony, the woman accused of killing her own daughter.
    Using a hand-drawn map of the Orange County Jail's women's dorm, inmate Robyn Adams showed investigators where she was housed -- in cell 19 upstairs. She said Casey Anthony was locked up downstairs in cell 12.

    At first, the two women would communicate with each other with flashed hand signals across a room, Adams said.

    But when corrections officers caught on, Adams was moved to a different cell so the two inmates could no longer see each other, Adams said.

    That's when Anthony first started writing letters, which she would stuff between the pages of a book titled, "Let's Do Away With August," Adams said.

    Nearly every morning, Anthony would leave that book on a cart in the dorm's common area and Adams would pick it up at night, Adams said.

    When Anthony returned to jail in September 2008, she was locked up in cell 22. According to Adams, that is where the two women began meeting face to face whenever Adams was allowed to watch TV by herself in the common area. Adams said corrections officer Silvia Hernandez allowed the two women to talk through the slit in Anthony's cell door, which is against jail rules.

    "We would talk to each other through the bean hole. We would talk for hours," Adams told investigators.
    On occasion, Hernandez would allegedly open the cell door so Anthony and Adams could see each other, Adams claimed. And once, the corrections officer actually allowed her inside Anthony's cell, which is an allegation Hernandez denies, Adams said.

    Hernandez said that on one occasion she let Anthony cut Adams' hair.

    "Robyn wanted her bangs cut," Hernandez told investigators.

    "I took Robyn to the door of Casey Anthony and I gave her the scissors and said, 'Go ahead and cut the bang right there at the door,'" Hernandez said.

    Hernandez admits she knew Anthony and Adams were improperly passing letters. The corrections officer did not facilitate the communication, but she said she did not stop it either.

    Meanwhile, new allegations are surfacing that Anthony attorney Jose Baez also broke jail rules by secretly passing messages to his client.

    In her letters, Casey Anthony wrote, "My attorney is keeping tabs on my family for me, and exchanging letters between us."

    In another letter, Anthony claims her attorney is trying to "smuggle" in some word search puzzles.

    Baez has declined comment since the letters were released. A Chicago-based legal team for Anthony on Tuesday released a statement that said in part, "The letters released today reflect the natural desire for companionship when isolated for 23 hours a day, and clearly demonstrate Casey's unconditional love for her daughter Caylee. Despite these intentions, it is obvious in the letters authored by Robyn Adams that her sole purpose and only goal in corresponding with Casey Anthony was to create 'leverage to get out of prison early.' "
    Outside the attorney's entrance at the jail, a sign clearly states that "Attorneys are not authorized to convey to an inmate any written communication of a personal nature."
    Ooh, Baez, BUSTED!  I hope finally someone involved in this case gets busted for breaking the law.  And by the way, Casey doesn't sound like she's being punished unduly.  Watching her soaps, reading, whining about the food, visits from her "boys".  Gee, she's bored, boo hoo.  It doesn't sound harsh enough for someone who murdered her daughter. (I know, she's not been convicted yet.  But she was convicted of stealing from Amy, so shouldn't she be doing some form of hard time?  Baah.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 09:33:22 AM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Details of Casey Anthony Friendship Surface
    04/08/10


    Good Morning Monks!  thanks trim......I questioned the scissors as well...Ms. Hernandez gave an accused murdered a pair of scissors........and opened the cell door..........she is a danger to herself and the the jail....she needs to go.  IMO
    ::MonkeyEek:: I don't even know what to say. I also wanted to say that if Casey is making this up about George and Lee and the sexual abuse, I do feel sorry for both men to have such vile accusations thrown their way, that is horrible.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 09:36:01 AM



    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-letters-20100406,0,1662653,full.story

    In an undated later to her jailmate friend, whom she called "Cookie," Anthony wrote that she blamed herself for her brother fondling her over a three-year period, from when she was 12 to when she was 15. She also wrote that she would wake up in the middle of the night with brother Lee Anthony staring at her from the floor of her bedroom.

    Casey wrote that she told her mother about the behavior and that Cindy Anthony's response was "that he was sleep walking."

    Lee Anthony did not return voice mails or e-mails for comment.

    George and Cindy Anthony denied the allegations.

    "The Anthony family denies that there was any improper sexual behavior in their family, nor was there ever a time when Casey told them of sexually inappropriate conduct by her brother or father," Anthony family attorney Brad Conway said in an e-mail.



    So the A's are now saying the candidate for Mother of the year .........   LIED about their perfect family.  Or will this just one of those mistruths sin-sin mentioned ::MonkeyDevil::


    I read that Lee made a statment but have not been able to find it.
    I have not seen Lee's statement either. I don't know what the Anthonys are suppose to do in this situation. If they wouldn't have said anything through the lawyer that would look suspicious, and with them saying something through their lawyer that also looks suspicious. Since everyone is a liar, it makes it impossible to know who is telling the truth  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Western Observr on April 08, 2010, 09:37:54 AM
    Prime News video 04/07/10
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947

    Issues with Jane Velez Mitchell  04/07/10
    Transcript
    http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/07/ijvm.01.html

    thanks trim....this is one show I really can't watch....JVM really gets my blood pressure raging.......perhaps I can read the transcript

    I can't stand it either!  I turned on the day the letters were released, just to see how wrong she could get it- and she did, error after error. I tried to phone into the show to contradict some BS that Jane Weintraub was lying about and couldn't get through, for the entire hour, so she has an audience, I would think most people are sick of her.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Western Observr on April 08, 2010, 09:40:25 AM
    http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23085002/detail.html
    Details Of Anthony Jail Friendship Surface
    Inmate Alleges Anthony Briefly Given Pair Of Scissors

    POSTED: Wednesday, April 7, 2010
    UPDATED: 7:56 am EDT April 8, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. -- Was Casey Anthony allowed to spend the night with another inmate? And was she given a pair of scissors behind bars?

    New information is surfacing in court documents about a friendship between a female inmate and Anthony, the woman accused of killing her own daughter.
    Using a hand-drawn map of the Orange County Jail's women's dorm, inmate Robyn Adams showed investigators where she was housed -- in cell 19 upstairs. She said Casey Anthony was locked up downstairs in cell 12.

    At first, the two women would communicate with each other with flashed hand signals across a room, Adams said.

    But when corrections officers caught on, Adams was moved to a different cell so the two inmates could no longer see each other, Adams said.

    That's when Anthony first started writing letters, which she would stuff between the pages of a book titled, "Let's Do Away With August," Adams said.

    Nearly every morning, Anthony would leave that book on a cart in the dorm's common area and Adams would pick it up at night, Adams said.

    When Anthony returned to jail in September 2008, she was locked up in cell 22. According to Adams, that is where the two women began meeting face to face whenever Adams was allowed to watch TV by herself in the common area. Adams said corrections officer Silvia Hernandez allowed the two women to talk through the slit in Anthony's cell door, which is against jail rules.

    "We would talk to each other through the bean hole. We would talk for hours," Adams told investigators.
    On occasion, Hernandez would allegedly open the cell door so Anthony and Adams could see each other, Adams claimed. And once, the corrections officer actually allowed her inside Anthony's cell, which is an allegation Hernandez denies, Adams said.

    Hernandez said that on one occasion she let Anthony cut Adams' hair.

    "Robyn wanted her bangs cut," Hernandez told investigators.

    "I took Robyn to the door of Casey Anthony and I gave her the scissors and said, 'Go ahead and cut the bang right there at the door,'" Hernandez said.

    Hernandez admits she knew Anthony and Adams were improperly passing letters. The corrections officer did not facilitate the communication, but she said she did not stop it either.

    Meanwhile, new allegations are surfacing that Anthony attorney Jose Baez also broke jail rules by secretly passing messages to his client.

    In her letters, Casey Anthony wrote, "My attorney is keeping tabs on my family for me, and exchanging letters between us."

    In another letter, Anthony claims her attorney is trying to "smuggle" in some word search puzzles.

    Baez has declined comment since the letters were released. A Chicago-based legal team for Anthony on Tuesday released a statement that said in part, "The letters released today reflect the natural desire for companionship when isolated for 23 hours a day, and clearly demonstrate Casey's unconditional love for her daughter Caylee. Despite these intentions, it is obvious in the letters authored by Robyn Adams that her sole purpose and only goal in corresponding with Casey Anthony was to create 'leverage to get out of prison early.' "
    Outside the attorney's entrance at the jail, a sign clearly states that "Attorneys are not authorized to convey to an inmate any written communication of a personal nature."
    Ooh, Baez, BUSTED!  I hope finally someone involved in this case gets busted for breaking the law.  And by the way, Casey doesn't sound like she's being punished unduly.  Watching her soaps, reading, whining about the food, visits from her "boys".  Gee, she's bored, boo hoo.  It doesn't sound harsh enough for someone who murdered her daughter. (I know, she's not been convicted yet.  But she was convicted of stealing from Amy, so shouldn't she be doing some form of hard time?  Baah.

    Baez will get a serious azz kicking by the Florida Bar for his part in this, smuggling contraband into a jail.... how stupid can this man get-  don't answer that.  We haven't heard from the Jail yet either, about his antics... and he wants MORE privacy. No telling what he would do with it..


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: monkalicious on April 08, 2010, 09:45:56 AM



    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-letters-20100406,0,1662653,full.story

    In an undated later to her jailmate friend, whom she called "Cookie," Anthony wrote that she blamed herself for her brother fondling her over a three-year period, from when she was 12 to when she was 15. She also wrote that she would wake up in the middle of the night with brother Lee Anthony staring at her from the floor of her bedroom.

    Casey wrote that she told her mother about the behavior and that Cindy Anthony's response was "that he was sleep walking."

    Lee Anthony did not return voice mails or e-mails for comment.

    George and Cindy Anthony denied the allegations.

    "The Anthony family denies that there was any improper sexual behavior in their family, nor was there ever a time when Casey told them of sexually inappropriate conduct by her brother or father," Anthony family attorney Brad Conway said in an e-mail.



    So the A's are now saying the candidate for Mother of the year .........   LIED about their perfect family.  Or will this just one of those mistruths sin-sin mentioned ::MonkeyDevil::


    I read that Lee made a statment but have not been able to find it.
    I have not seen Lee's statement either. I don't know what the Anthonys are suppose to do in this situation. If they wouldn't have said anything through the lawyer that would look suspicious, and with them saying something through their lawyer that also looks suspicious. Since everyone is a liar, it makes it impossible to know who is telling the truth  ::MonkeyNoNo::
    I didn't know Lee made a statement.  What could he possibly say?  By the way, who sleeps in a bra anyway?  At age 13?  The Anthonys are caught in their own trap...Casey is a liar, Casey only lies about certain things, our family is perfect, except for the murder of our granddaughter, our daughter is a sociopathic thief and round heeled skank, Dad is a gambler, cheater, wastrel, Mom is a controlling fiend who probably also cheated on Dad, and, oh, yes, almost forgot, brother, (and maybe Dad, too,) is accused of trying to molest innocent Casey.
    How can they rationalize supporting her?  I don't get it.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: akmom on April 08, 2010, 09:48:29 AM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Details of Casey Anthony Friendship Surface
    04/08/10


    Good Morning Monks!  thanks trim......I questioned the scissors as well...Ms. Hernandez gave an accused murdered a pair of scissors........and opened the cell door..........she is a danger to herself and the the jail....she needs to go.  IMO

    All I could think about when I read that was no way would you get me and Casey Anthony in a room with scissors.....unless I was in control of them ::MonkeyTongue::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: monkalicious on April 08, 2010, 09:49:09 AM
    http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23085002/detail.html
    Details Of Anthony Jail Friendship Surface
    Inmate Alleges Anthony Briefly Given Pair Of Scissors

    POSTED: Wednesday, April 7, 2010
    UPDATED: 7:56 am EDT April 8, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. -- Was Casey Anthony allowed to spend the night with another inmate? And was she given a pair of scissors behind bars?

    New information is surfacing in court documents about a friendship between a female inmate and Anthony, the woman accused of killing her own daughter.
    Using a hand-drawn map of the Orange County Jail's women's dorm, inmate Robyn Adams showed investigators where she was housed -- in cell 19 upstairs. She said Casey Anthony was locked up downstairs in cell 12.

    At first, the two women would communicate with each other with flashed hand signals across a room, Adams said.

    But when corrections officers caught on, Adams was moved to a different cell so the two inmates could no longer see each other, Adams said.

    That's when Anthony first started writing letters, which she would stuff between the pages of a book titled, "Let's Do Away With August," Adams said.

    Nearly every morning, Anthony would leave that book on a cart in the dorm's common area and Adams would pick it up at night, Adams said.

    When Anthony returned to jail in September 2008, she was locked up in cell 22. According to Adams, that is where the two women began meeting face to face whenever Adams was allowed to watch TV by herself in the common area. Adams said corrections officer Silvia Hernandez allowed the two women to talk through the slit in Anthony's cell door, which is against jail rules.

    "We would talk to each other through the bean hole. We would talk for hours," Adams told investigators.
    On occasion, Hernandez would allegedly open the cell door so Anthony and Adams could see each other, Adams claimed. And once, the corrections officer actually allowed her inside Anthony's cell, which is an allegation Hernandez denies, Adams said.

    Hernandez said that on one occasion she let Anthony cut Adams' hair.

    "Robyn wanted her bangs cut," Hernandez told investigators.

    "I took Robyn to the door of Casey Anthony and I gave her the scissors and said, 'Go ahead and cut the bang right there at the door,'" Hernandez said.

    Hernandez admits she knew Anthony and Adams were improperly passing letters. The corrections officer did not facilitate the communication, but she said she did not stop it either.

    Meanwhile, new allegations are surfacing that Anthony attorney Jose Baez also broke jail rules by secretly passing messages to his client.

    In her letters, Casey Anthony wrote, "My attorney is keeping tabs on my family for me, and exchanging letters between us."

    In another letter, Anthony claims her attorney is trying to "smuggle" in some word search puzzles.

    Baez has declined comment since the letters were released. A Chicago-based legal team for Anthony on Tuesday released a statement that said in part, "The letters released today reflect the natural desire for companionship when isolated for 23 hours a day, and clearly demonstrate Casey's unconditional love for her daughter Caylee. Despite these intentions, it is obvious in the letters authored by Robyn Adams that her sole purpose and only goal in corresponding with Casey Anthony was to create 'leverage to get out of prison early.' "
    Outside the attorney's entrance at the jail, a sign clearly states that "Attorneys are not authorized to convey to an inmate any written communication of a personal nature."
    Ooh, Baez, BUSTED!  I hope finally someone involved in this case gets busted for breaking the law.  And by the way, Casey doesn't sound like she's being punished unduly.  Watching her soaps, reading, whining about the food, visits from her "boys".  Gee, she's bored, boo hoo.  It doesn't sound harsh enough for someone who murdered her daughter. (I know, she's not been convicted yet.  But she was convicted of stealing from Amy, so shouldn't she be doing some form of hard time?  Baah.

    Baez will get a serious azz kicking by the Florida Bar for his part in this, smuggling contraband into a jail.... how stupid can this man get-  don't answer that.  We haven't heard from the Jail yet either, about his antics... and he wants MORE privacy. No telling what he would do with it..
    I hope he gets his Bae-Azz handed to him on an aluminum platter.  (Silver is too good for him!)
    Do you really think he will get spanked?  It seems to me that he always gets away with EVERYTHING!  I guess I'm really bothered by the unfairness.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: monkalicious on April 08, 2010, 09:50:00 AM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Details of Casey Anthony Friendship Surface
    04/08/10


    Good Morning Monks!  thanks trim......I questioned the scissors as well...Ms. Hernandez gave an accused murdered a pair of scissors........and opened the cell door..........she is a danger to herself and the the jail....she needs to go.  IMO

    All I could think about when I read that was no way would you get me and Casey Anthony in a room with scissors.....unless I was in control of them ::MonkeyTongue::
    ::MonkeyDevil::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 10:04:56 AM
    Trim......lol @ your siggy line  ::MonkeyHaHa::

     ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 10:06:25 AM
    Mornin', Monks!  Interesting stuff out there lately, huh?  Robyn Adams seems pretty manipulative herself, even with all the religous trappings.  Her letters to her friend Tracy appears to suggest that she is using Casey.  She also acts like a victim, as if she had nothing to do with her own crime, and that she was betrayed by the confidential informant, David Badali.  Robyn seems to have more in common with Casey than at first glance. 

    Morning Monka!  I think you are right...........birds of a feather ya know.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Western Observr on April 08, 2010, 10:07:46 AM



    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-letters-20100406,0,1662653,full.story

    In an undated later to her jailmate friend, whom she called "Cookie," Anthony wrote that she blamed herself for her brother fondling her over a three-year period, from when she was 12 to when she was 15. She also wrote that she would wake up in the middle of the night with brother Lee Anthony staring at her from the floor of her bedroom.

    Casey wrote that she told her mother about the behavior and that Cindy Anthony's response was "that he was sleep walking."

    Lee Anthony did not return voice mails or e-mails for comment.

    George and Cindy Anthony denied the allegations.

    "The Anthony family denies that there was any improper sexual behavior in their family, nor was there ever a time when Casey told them of sexually inappropriate conduct by her brother or father," Anthony family attorney Brad Conway said in an e-mail.



    So the A's are now saying the candidate for Mother of the year .........   LIED about their perfect family.  Or will this just one of those mistruths sin-sin mentioned ::MonkeyDevil::


    I read that Lee made a statment but have not been able to find it.
    I have not seen Lee's statement either. I don't know what the Anthonys are suppose to do in this situation. If they wouldn't have said anything through the lawyer that would look suspicious, and with them saying something through their lawyer that also looks suspicious. Since everyone is a liar, it makes it impossible to know who is telling the truth  ::MonkeyNoNo::
    I didn't know Lee made a statement.  What could he possibly say?  By the way, who sleeps in a bra anyway?  At age 13?  The Anthonys are caught in their own trap...Casey is a liar, Casey only lies about certain things, our family is perfect, except for the murder of our granddaughter, our daughter is a sociopathic thief and round heeled skank, Dad is a gambler, cheater, wastrel, Mom is a controlling fiend who probably also cheated on Dad, and, oh, yes, almost forgot, brother, (and maybe Dad, too,) is accused of trying to molest innocent Casey.
    How can they rationalize supporting her?  I don't get it.

    I think it's all just absolutely perfect.  Poetic justice for Caylee.
    They all deserve each other..


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 10:10:26 AM
    http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23085002/detail.html
    Details Of Anthony Jail Friendship Surface
    Inmate Alleges Anthony Briefly Given Pair Of Scissors

    POSTED: Wednesday, April 7, 2010
    UPDATED: 7:56 am EDT April 8, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. -- Was Casey Anthony allowed to spend the night with another inmate? And was she given a pair of scissors behind bars?

    New information is surfacing in court documents about a friendship between a female inmate and Anthony, the woman accused of killing her own daughter.
    Using a hand-drawn map of the Orange County Jail's women's dorm, inmate Robyn Adams showed investigators where she was housed -- in cell 19 upstairs. She said Casey Anthony was locked up downstairs in cell 12.

    At first, the two women would communicate with each other with flashed hand signals across a room, Adams said.

    But when corrections officers caught on, Adams was moved to a different cell so the two inmates could no longer see each other, Adams said.

    That's when Anthony first started writing letters, which she would stuff between the pages of a book titled, "Let's Do Away With August," Adams said.

    Nearly every morning, Anthony would leave that book on a cart in the dorm's common area and Adams would pick it up at night, Adams said.

    When Anthony returned to jail in September 2008, she was locked up in cell 22. According to Adams, that is where the two women began meeting face to face whenever Adams was allowed to watch TV by herself in the common area. Adams said corrections officer Silvia Hernandez allowed the two women to talk through the slit in Anthony's cell door, which is against jail rules.

    "We would talk to each other through the bean hole. We would talk for hours," Adams told investigators.
    On occasion, Hernandez would allegedly open the cell door so Anthony and Adams could see each other, Adams claimed. And once, the corrections officer actually allowed her inside Anthony's cell, which is an allegation Hernandez denies, Adams said.

    Hernandez said that on one occasion she let Anthony cut Adams' hair.

    "Robyn wanted her bangs cut," Hernandez told investigators.

    "I took Robyn to the door of Casey Anthony and I gave her the scissors and said, 'Go ahead and cut the bang right there at the door,'" Hernandez said.

    Hernandez admits she knew Anthony and Adams were improperly passing letters. The corrections officer did not facilitate the communication, but she said she did not stop it either.

    Meanwhile, new allegations are surfacing that Anthony attorney Jose Baez also broke jail rules by secretly passing messages to his client.

    In her letters, Casey Anthony wrote, "My attorney is keeping tabs on my family for me, and exchanging letters between us."

    In another letter, Anthony claims her attorney is trying to "smuggle" in some word search puzzles.

    Baez has declined comment since the letters were released. A Chicago-based legal team for Anthony on Tuesday released a statement that said in part, "The letters released today reflect the natural desire for companionship when isolated for 23 hours a day, and clearly demonstrate Casey's unconditional love for her daughter Caylee. Despite these intentions, it is obvious in the letters authored by Robyn Adams that her sole purpose and only goal in corresponding with Casey Anthony was to create 'leverage to get out of prison early.' "
    Outside the attorney's entrance at the jail, a sign clearly states that "Attorneys are not authorized to convey to an inmate any written communication of a personal nature."
    Ooh, Baez, BUSTED!  I hope finally someone involved in this case gets busted for breaking the law.  And by the way, Casey doesn't sound like she's being punished unduly.  Watching her soaps, reading, whining about the food, visits from her "boys".  Gee, she's bored, boo hoo.  It doesn't sound harsh enough for someone who murdered her daughter. (I know, she's not been convicted yet.  But she was convicted of stealing from Amy, so shouldn't she be doing some form of hard time?  Baah.

    Busted, but I am anxious to see if there will be repercussions!  Like we were saying yesterday, kc will adjust to prison life quite well....just as she has to jail life....although prison life will be tougher and she will not be the protected 'celebrity'.  When some of the prisoners that are in jail with her now hear about a couple of the remarks she made....her ass will be grass if an get hold of her....talking about the 'chocolates'........


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 10:13:43 AM



    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-letters-20100406,0,1662653,full.story

    In an undated later to her jailmate friend, whom she called "Cookie," Anthony wrote that she blamed herself for her brother fondling her over a three-year period, from when she was 12 to when she was 15. She also wrote that she would wake up in the middle of the night with brother Lee Anthony staring at her from the floor of her bedroom.

    Casey wrote that she told her mother about the behavior and that Cindy Anthony's response was "that he was sleep walking."

    Lee Anthony did not return voice mails or e-mails for comment.

    George and Cindy Anthony denied the allegations.

    "The Anthony family denies that there was any improper sexual behavior in their family, nor was there ever a time when Casey told them of sexually inappropriate conduct by her brother or father," Anthony family attorney Brad Conway said in an e-mail.



    So the A's are now saying the candidate for Mother of the year .........   LIED about their perfect family.  Or will this just one of those mistruths sin-sin mentioned ::MonkeyDevil::


    I read that Lee made a statment but have not been able to find it.
    I have not seen Lee's statement either. I don't know what the Anthonys are suppose to do in this situation. If they wouldn't have said anything through the lawyer that would look suspicious, and with them saying something through their lawyer that also looks suspicious. Since everyone is a liar, it makes it impossible to know who is telling the truth  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    so true....the old saying about making a bed and laying in it....that's exactly what they have done..........the truth would have been better all the way around.  Last night my sweetie and I were talking about this very thing.  Had the A's acted and reacted like normal people....they could have written books and gotten movie deals..and people would buy the books and watch the movies....now, not a shot in hell!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 10:16:44 AM
    Sad part the people that are buying the grieving grandparent routine, would probably buy their book and watch the movie  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Babybear on April 08, 2010, 10:22:46 AM
    http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23085002/detail.html
    Details Of Anthony Jail Friendship Surface
    Inmate Alleges Anthony Briefly Given Pair Of Scissors

    POSTED: Wednesday, April 7, 2010
    UPDATED: 7:56 am EDT April 8, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. -- Was Casey Anthony allowed to spend the night with another inmate? And was she given a pair of scissors behind bars?

    New information is surfacing in court documents about a friendship between a female inmate and Anthony, the woman accused of killing her own daughter.
    Using a hand-drawn map of the Orange County Jail's women's dorm, inmate Robyn Adams showed investigators where she was housed -- in cell 19 upstairs. She said Casey Anthony was locked up downstairs in cell 12.

    At first, the two women would communicate with each other with flashed hand signals across a room, Adams said.

    But when corrections officers caught on, Adams was moved to a different cell so the two inmates could no longer see each other, Adams said.

    That's when Anthony first started writing letters, which she would stuff between the pages of a book titled, "Let's Do Away With August," Adams said.

    Nearly every morning, Anthony would leave that book on a cart in the dorm's common area and Adams would pick it up at night, Adams said.

    When Anthony returned to jail in September 2008, she was locked up in cell 22. According to Adams, that is where the two women began meeting face to face whenever Adams was allowed to watch TV by herself in the common area. Adams said corrections officer Silvia Hernandez allowed the two women to talk through the slit in Anthony's cell door, which is against jail rules.

    "We would talk to each other through the bean hole. We would talk for hours," Adams told investigators.
    On occasion, Hernandez would allegedly open the cell door so Anthony and Adams could see each other, Adams claimed. And once, the corrections officer actually allowed her inside Anthony's cell, which is an allegation Hernandez denies, Adams said.

    Hernandez said that on one occasion she let Anthony cut Adams' hair.

    "Robyn wanted her bangs cut," Hernandez told investigators.

    "I took Robyn to the door of Casey Anthony and I gave her the scissors and said, 'Go ahead and cut the bang right there at the door,'" Hernandez said.

    Hernandez admits she knew Anthony and Adams were improperly passing letters. The corrections officer did not facilitate the communication, but she said she did not stop it either.

    Meanwhile, new allegations are surfacing that Anthony attorney Jose Baez also broke jail rules by secretly passing messages to his client.

    In her letters, Casey Anthony wrote, "My attorney is keeping tabs on my family for me, and exchanging letters between us."

    In another letter, Anthony claims her attorney is trying to "smuggle" in some word search puzzles.

    Baez has declined comment since the letters were released. A Chicago-based legal team for Anthony on Tuesday released a statement that said in part, "The letters released today reflect the natural desire for companionship when isolated for 23 hours a day, and clearly demonstrate Casey's unconditional love for her daughter Caylee. Despite these intentions, it is obvious in the letters authored by Robyn Adams that her sole purpose and only goal in corresponding with Casey Anthony was to create 'leverage to get out of prison early.' "
    Outside the attorney's entrance at the jail, a sign clearly states that "Attorneys are not authorized to convey to an inmate any written communication of a personal nature."
    Ooh, Baez, BUSTED!  I hope finally someone involved in this case gets busted for breaking the law.  And by the way, Casey doesn't sound like she's being punished unduly.  Watching her soaps, reading, whining about the food, visits from her "boys".  Gee, she's bored, boo hoo.  It doesn't sound harsh enough for someone who murdered her daughter. (I know, she's not been convicted yet.  But she was convicted of stealing from Amy, so shouldn't she be doing some form of hard time?  Baah.

    Baez will get a serious azz kicking by the Florida Bar for his part in this, smuggling contraband into a jail.... how stupid can this man get-  don't answer that.  We haven't heard from the Jail yet either, about his antics... and he wants MORE privacy. No telling what he would do with it..
    I hope he gets his Bae-Azz handed to him on an aluminum platter.  (Silver is too good for him!)
    Do you really think he will get spanked?  It seems to me that he always gets away with EVERYTHING!  I guess I'm really bothered by the unfairness.

    Yes, Delicious Monkey and all-----The whole bunch except Casey get away with everything.  The Anthonys have clearly violated a number of laws dealing with accessory after the fact, interfering with an investigation, tampering with evidence, lying to authorities, etc. etc. etc.  They and Milstead should have been arrested after the high speed chase through a residential area, IMO. Threat of bodily harm, endangering pedestrians, also etc.  George should have been charged for shoving that old lady.  She was in the street, not George's property.  Assault and battery  at the very least.  Lee should have been arrested for petty theft, stealing the dog bowl which was on public property and destroying that young woman's sign.  The rest of us would have been arrested in a New York minute had we acted that way, but for some reason, the cops feel sorry for the Anthonys and they have carte blanch to do whatever they wish with no repercussions.

    Also, IMO, Baez should have been removed from the case for incompetence.  I know that Casey said he's the lawyer she wants, but is she even qualified to judge?  She's an ignorant high-school drop-out who is hardly the one to rate an attorney.
    The fact that he's been warned in the past to not have physical contact with Casey should be considered now that it's known for sure that he passed notes to her from her so-called family.  I recall George and/or Cindy saying on LKL that Baez delivered letters to Casey from them.  Why does this little pip-squeak not ready-for-prime-time lawyer get a pass for all of this? So far the Bar has exonerated him for all infractions previously reported.  Do they even care?

    For that matter, why is Hernandez getting a pass for violating the jail rules.  She seems to have been making friends with the inmates instead of maintaining order.  Casey this, Robyn that, Casey this, Robyn that.  Shouldn't there be a law against fraternizing with the inmates?  She should be calling them by their last names and doing her job, which is to make sure the rules are enforced and order and safety maintained.

    Remember when Casey told Amy that she must have been sleep walking?  Now she says that Cindy says Lee was sleep walking.  I don't know but I personally have never known anyone who sleep walks.  It seems to be a favorite of Casey's.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 10:24:50 AM
    http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/casey-anthony-jailhouse-letter.html
    WDBO Local News      
    Casey Anthony jailhouse letters started with a wave
    By
    WDBO Staff
    @ April 8, 2010 9:58 AM Permalink | Comments (0) | TrackBacks (0)
    Their relationship started as a simple one. Two isolated women, desperate for some type of communication with another, exchanged a wave, a hand signal.

    But in the months that Casey Anthony and Robyn Adams both spent in the Orange County Jail, a friendship developed, one that involved secret, hours-long chats and extensive letter writing.

    When the remains of Anthony's 2-year-old daughter Caylee Marie were found in woods near the family's east Orange County home in December 2008, The Orlando Sentinel reports that Adams shared a private moment with her friend through a food slot in Anthony's cell door:
    See story here    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-robyn-adams-20100407,0,4055190.story
     It was one of many clandestine moments shared between the two women, some of them disclosed publicly this week when Adams' interviews and dozens of letters written to her by Anthony were released by state prosecutors.

    Anthony, 24, remains at the Orange County Jail facing a first-degree murder charge in Caylee's death.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 10:52:44 AM
    If you have any concerns regarding anything in Ms. Hernandez statement, as I do....here is who you can voice your concerns to:

    Major Johnson
    PO BOX 4970
    Orlando FL 32802-4970

    Administration Receptionist: 407-836-3560

    I called the above to find out who I could speak to regarding concerns.....the receptionist was very haughty in the beginning. She questioned why I would have any concerns over what Ms. Anthony may say as it is well known she is a habitual liar. I told her if it was just from Casey, I wouldn't be concerned. However since the scissors info came directly from Ms. Hernandez I feel it is my right and duty to express my concern. 

    I wanted an email address and will keep trying to get one....but this is a start.  I also want to voice my concern that the letters got out of the jail system, and that the attorney, BOZO, was carrying letters back and forth........I am damn tired of this azzhole getting free passes.....


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: darla on April 08, 2010, 10:55:50 AM
    Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!

    Not making light of anyone who has been molested, but I think if there was any molesting going on in the Ant's home, Casey was the instigator.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 10:59:15 AM
    SNIPED

    Baez has declined comment since the letters were released. A Chicago-based legal team for Anthony on Tuesday released a statement that said in part, "The letters released today reflect the natural desire for companionship when isolated for 23 hours a day, and clearly demonstrate Casey's unconditional love for her daughter Caylee. Despite these intentions, it is obvious in the letters authored by Robyn Adams that her sole purpose and only goal in corresponding with Casey Anthony was to create 'leverage to get out of prison early.' "
    Outside the attorney's entrance at the jail, a sign clearly states that "Attorneys are not authorized to convey to an inmate any written communication of a personal nature."
    [/quote]

    Good morning everyone!

    So Lyons is putting out that Casey had unconditional love for her daughter, ey?   Well beast, let me ask you this:   What mother (young or not) goes for years without a legitimate steady job providing no financial support for her child?   What mother goes out partying practically every night?   What mother carries out a wanton disregard for her own health by screwing half of her community of guys?  What mother admits to drugging her child so that she will remain asleep so she could go out?  What mother takes the risk of landing in jail for habitual stealing?  What mother would not report her child missing & ascertain every avenue of assistance to locate her for over a month?... sorry dont give me the scared excuse because REAL mothers dont work on fear when it comes to their flesh & blood.    O and by the way why does this twisted twit seem to think the public should give a rats behind that her podium defendant is isolated for 23 hours per day, as if, hello she's there for a reason & that reason is beyond heinous.   "natural desire for companionship"  give me a break, this evil ho spent way too much time desiring companionship while all the while neglecting her own child & then having her child pay the ultimate price HER LIFE because her mother is a self-absorbed monster...In one abbreviation, STFU!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 11:02:34 AM
    I found this on Major Johnson

    Sherry Johnson, Major
    Major, Security Operations
    Office: (407) 254-8208 Email

    Major Sherry Johnson is a 22 year veteran of the corrections profession. She joined Orange County Corrections in December 1990. She has steadily advanced through to ranks to become the first female Major in the department's history.

    As the Major of Security Operations, Major Johnson has command responsibilities for the Special Response Team/Crisis Response Team, and all security shifts and officers working in all facilities and the perimeter of the jail system.

    http://www.orangecountyfl.net/cms/DEPT/correct/admin/management.htm


    there is a link here to email her!!   ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Wyks on April 08, 2010, 11:03:43 AM
    http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/cops-casey-anthony-told-inmate-caylees-remains/story?id=10315519

    Cops: Casey Anthony Told Inmate Too Much About Caylee's Remains
    04/07/10
    Inmate Claims Casey Anthony Knew Caylee's Remains Were With Baby Blanket Before Public Did
    Casey Anthony  knew details about her 2-year-old daughter Caylee Anthony's remains before they were made public knowledge, according to a police interview with a fellow inmate of Anthony's.
    "After a chaplain informed Casey Anthony of the recovery, Casey Anthony told [inmate] Robyn Adams law enforcement had found the body of a small child with a baby blanket inside a black garbage bag," police said in the witness report, which was included in hundreds of pages of documents released by prosecutors Tuesday.

    "As a note, the information regarding the baby blanket and black garbage bag was not made known to the jail chaplain so Casey Anthony had knowledge of items only the suspect, certain law enforcement personnel and the certain medical examiner's personnel knew," the report said.

    <snipped>

    The part I bolded in the above article is going to effectively shut the defense down regarding their attempt in saying that Caylee's body was placed in that area AFTER Casey was arrested.  Because with the info in the bolded part above, Casey has proven to the prosecution that she knew the particulars re the disposal of Caylee's body.   

    Am thinking this is what will hurt her defense more than anything else in those letters.  IMO

     ::MonkeyGavel::




    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 11:10:19 AM
    If you have any concerns regarding anything in Ms. Hernandez statement, as I do....here is who you can voice your concerns to:

    Major Johnson
    PO BOX 4970
    Orlando FL 32802-4970

    Administration Receptionist: 407-836-3560

    I called the above to find out who I could speak to regarding concerns.....the receptionist was very haughty in the beginning. She questioned why I would have any concerns over what Ms. Anthony may say as it is well known she is a habitual liar. I told her if it was just from Casey, I wouldn't be concerned. However since the scissors info came directly from Ms. Hernandez I feel it is my right and duty to express my concern. 

    I wanted an email address and will keep trying to get one....but this is a start.  I also want to voice my concern that the letters got out of the jail system, and that the attorney, BOZO, was carrying letters back and forth........I am damn tired of this azzhole getting free passes.....
    Thank-you, OMG even the receptionist is calling Casey a habitual liar  ::MonkeyTongue::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 11:12:17 AM
    "The letters released today reflect the natural desire for companionship when isolated for 23 hours a day, and clearly demonstrate Casey's unconditional love for her daughter Caylee."  WTF this just all gets crazier.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 11:16:41 AM
    http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/cops-casey-anthony-told-inmate-caylees-remains/story?id=10315519

    Cops: Casey Anthony Told Inmate Too Much About Caylee's Remains
    04/07/10
    Inmate Claims Casey Anthony Knew Caylee's Remains Were With Baby Blanket Before Public Did
    Casey Anthony  knew details about her 2-year-old daughter Caylee Anthony's remains before they were made public knowledge, according to a police interview with a fellow inmate of Anthony's.
    "After a chaplain informed Casey Anthony of the recovery, Casey Anthony told [inmate] Robyn Adams law enforcement had found the body of a small child with a baby blanket inside a black garbage bag," police said in the witness report, which was included in hundreds of pages of documents released by prosecutors Tuesday.

    "As a note, the information regarding the baby blanket and black garbage bag was not made known to the jail chaplain so Casey Anthony had knowledge of items only the suspect, certain law enforcement personnel and the certain medical examiner's personnel knew," the report said.

    <snipped>

    The part I bolded in the above article is going to effectively shut the defense down regarding their attempt in saying that Caylee's body was placed in that area AFTER Casey was arrested.  Because with the info in the bolded part above, Casey has proven to the prosecution that she knew the particulars re the disposal of Caylee's body.   

    Am thinking this is what will hurt her defense more than anything else in those letters.  IMO

     ::MonkeyGavel::




    Absoflippinlutely, but then again the whole theatrical attempt at confusing the potential jury pool with someone else had to have committed this murder because the body was placed there after our client was incarcerated is ridiculous in this case to begin with even if she didnt fudge up because the crime was not committed in the woods & the evidence trail begins at the defendant's home & vehicle.    It really mystifies me how this constantly gets put to the back burner by so many when they are putting forward this absurd bunk and bull.  Even if a murderer got assistance AFTER THE FACT, it does not in any way lessen accountability for the murder itself by the killer.  To further this point, the defense time also fudged up with their recent comment that pretty much stated someone else putting the body in the Suburban woods doesnt necessarily mean they murdered Caylee but may have assisted the killer....what a big oppsie!   


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Sassycat on April 08, 2010, 11:18:25 AM
    I found this on Major Johnson

    Sherry Johnson, Major
    Major, Security Operations
    Office: (407) 254-8208 Email

    Major Sherry Johnson is a 22 year veteran of the corrections profession. She joined Orange County Corrections in December 1990. She has steadily advanced through to ranks to become the first female Major in the department's history.

    As the Major of Security Operations, Major Johnson has command responsibilities for the Special Response Team/Crisis Response Team, and all security shifts and officers working in all facilities and the perimeter of the jail system.

    http://www.orangecountyfl.net/cms/DEPT/correct/admin/management.htm


    there is a link here to email her!!   ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

    Thanks!    ::MonkeyGavel::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Wyks on April 08, 2010, 11:19:52 AM
    I have not seen Lee's statement either. I don't know what the Anthonys are suppose to do in this situation. If they wouldn't have said anything through the lawyer that would look suspicious, and with them saying something through their lawyer that also looks suspicious. Since everyone is a liar, it makes it impossible to know who is telling the truth  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Good point Rosie!  They are damned if they do, damned if they don't.  Hard place to be.  It didn't surprise me that their attorney made a quick denial on behalf of the family, which by the way it's worded seems to include Lee as well. 

    On the other hand, it seems that in every lie Casey speaks there's usually a bit of truth.  So I'm thinking that *something* happened in her past, re her family members, just not sure what that is. 

    One thing we can watch for is.. where is the anger at being falsely and publically accused of something George/Lee did not do?  If neither show anger at this... then... IMO, both are likely guilty as charged. 

    Cuz really, if you or I were accused falsely, wouldn't we jump up and say 'I did not!!!  how dare you say that?'  or something similiar? 

    Just waiting.. and watching..   ::piggy::



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Wyks on April 08, 2010, 11:24:05 AM

    Ooh, Baez, BUSTED!  I hope finally someone involved in this case gets busted for breaking the law.  And by the way, Casey doesn't sound like she's being punished unduly.  Watching her soaps, reading, whining about the food, visits from her "boys".  Gee, she's bored, boo hoo.  It doesn't sound harsh enough for someone who murdered her daughter. (I know, she's not been convicted yet.  But she was convicted of stealing from Amy, so shouldn't she be doing some form of hard time?  Baah.

    Baez will get a serious azz kicking by the Florida Bar for his part in this, smuggling contraband into a jail.... how stupid can this man get-  don't answer that.  We haven't heard from the Jail yet either, about his antics... and he wants MORE privacy. No telling what he would do with it..

    I agree!! 

    Am thinking that Casey couldn't have found a more perfect attorney *for her*..   ::MonkeyDevil::



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 11:27:01 AM
    I have not seen Lee's statement either. I don't know what the Anthonys are suppose to do in this situation. If they wouldn't have said anything through the lawyer that would look suspicious, and with them saying something through their lawyer that also looks suspicious. Since everyone is a liar, it makes it impossible to know who is telling the truth  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Good point Rosie!  They are damned if they do, damned if they don't.  Hard place to be.  It didn't surprise me that their attorney made a quick denial on behalf of the family, which by the way it's worded seems to include Lee as well. 

    On the other hand, it seems that in every lie Casey speaks there's usually a bit of truth.  So I'm thinking that *something* happened in her past, re her family members, just not sure what that is. 

    One thing we can watch for is.. where is the anger at being falsely and publically accused of something George/Lee did not do?  If neither show anger at this... then... IMO, both are likely guilty as charged. 

    Cuz really, if you or I were accused falsely, wouldn't we jump up and say 'I did not!!!  how dare you say that?'  or something similiar? 

    Just waiting.. and watching..   ::piggy::



    Well, to tell you the truth I can only speak to what I think I might do if I was so viciously accused of such a heinous act & was totally innocent of said accusation....the guards would be peeling me off of that beeotch because Id be rearranging her face....but that's just me.     No, seriously I dont think a public display of disdain would settle everyone's concerns one bit, people will still wonder, although I think after what has transpired if they continue to protect/support their monster it goes without saying that most would find them to be beyond pathetic but actually the most moronic poor excuses for parents on the planet....o wait arent they that already.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 11:27:01 AM
    I have not seen Lee's statement either. I don't know what the Anthonys are suppose to do in this situation. If they wouldn't have said anything through the lawyer that would look suspicious, and with them saying something through their lawyer that also looks suspicious. Since everyone is a liar, it makes it impossible to know who is telling the truth  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Good point Rosie!  They are damned if they do, damned if they don't.  Hard place to be.  It didn't surprise me that their attorney made a quick denial on behalf of the family, which by the way it's worded seems to include Lee as well. 

    On the other hand, it seems that in every lie Casey speaks there's usually a bit of truth.  So I'm thinking that *something* happened in her past, re her family members, just not sure what that is. 

    One thing we can watch for is.. where is the anger at being falsely and publically accused of something George/Lee did not do?  If neither show anger at this... then... IMO, both are likely guilty as charged. 

    Cuz really, if you or I were accused falsely, wouldn't we jump up and say 'I did not!!!  how dare you say that?'  or something similiar? 

    Just waiting.. and watching..   ::piggy::


    I'm just waiting and watching as well. I'm not sure what happened in her past inside that home, and I'm kind of afraid to really know. You can bet I would be screaming and shouting I did no such thing to anybody  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Northern Rose on April 08, 2010, 11:28:08 AM
    Judge grants prosecutors transcript of Casey Anthony hearing

    Prosecutors will get the transcript of an August hearing where one of Casey Anthony's former defense attorneys proclaimed her innocence in court, records released today show.

    Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland granted Assistant State Attorney Linda Drane Burdick the order for the transcript.

    Todd Macaluso, a former member of Anthony's defense team, announced in an Aug. 21 court hearing that "the body or remains of Caylee Anthony were placed there after Anthony was locked up in the Orange County facility."

    Anthony, 24, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter Caylee. The state is seeking the death penalty.

    His comment was part of the defense team's request to obtain records from Texas EquuSearch, the volunteer group that helped look for Caylee.

    EquuSearch officials said the exact location where Caylee's remains were later found in December 2008 had not been searched because it was flooded.

    The child's remains were discovered in a patch of woods less than a mile from the home she shared with her grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony.

    Anthony's defense team at the time did not explain what evidence they had that led them to make that statement.

    In an earlier report, Burdick didn't say why the state wants the transcript of that court hearing.

    Macaluso withdrew from the Anthony case earlier this year because of troubles with the California Bar.

    He entered an alternative-discipline program after being accused of "moral turpitude, dishonesty or corruption" in handling several trust accounts.

    The State Bar alleged he misappropriated about $145,000 and misused nearly $61,000 in client money. Macaluso denied any willful violation, blaming his staff and saying he was distracted and traumatized at the time by his brother's death.

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-court-transcript-20100408,0,1649798.story


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 11:32:17 AM
    Judge grants prosecutors transcript of Casey Anthony hearing

    Prosecutors will get the transcript of an August hearing where one of Casey Anthony's former defense attorneys proclaimed her innocence in court, records released today show.

    Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland granted Assistant State Attorney Linda Drane Burdick the order for the transcript.

    Todd Macaluso, a former member of Anthony's defense team, announced in an Aug. 21 court hearing that "the body or remains of Caylee Anthony were placed there after Anthony was locked up in the Orange County facility."

    Anthony, 24, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter Caylee. The state is seeking the death penalty.

    His comment was part of the defense team's request to obtain records from Texas EquuSearch, the volunteer group that helped look for Caylee.

    EquuSearch officials said the exact location where Caylee's remains were later found in December 2008 had not been searched because it was flooded.

    The child's remains were discovered in a patch of woods less than a mile from the home she shared with her grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony.

    Anthony's defense team at the time did not explain what evidence they had that led them to make that statement.

    In an earlier report, Burdick didn't say why the state wants the transcript of that court hearing.

    Macaluso withdrew from the Anthony case earlier this year because of troubles with the California Bar.

    He entered an alternative-discipline program after being accused of "moral turpitude, dishonesty or corruption" in handling several trust accounts.

    The State Bar alleged he misappropriated about $145,000 and misused nearly $61,000 in client money. Macaluso denied any willful violation, blaming his staff and saying he was distracted and traumatized at the time by his brother's death.

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-court-transcript-20100408,0,1649798.story

    JUSTICE IS ON THE WAY!  ::MonkeyGavel::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 11:32:33 AM
    Thanks Northern  ::MonkeyCool::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 11:33:55 AM
    If memory serves, "Macadoodle" went further than just stating that the body was placed there after his client was incarcerated, he claimed Casey to be innocent


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Wyks on April 08, 2010, 11:34:48 AM
    If you have any concerns regarding anything in Ms. Hernandez statement, as I do....here is who you can voice your concerns to:

    Major Johnson
    PO BOX 4970
    Orlando FL 32802-4970

    Administration Receptionist: 407-836-3560

    I called the above to find out who I could speak to regarding concerns.....the receptionist was very haughty in the beginning. She questioned why I would have any concerns over what Ms. Anthony may say as it is well known she is a habitual liar. I told her if it was just from Casey, I wouldn't be concerned. However since the scissors info came directly from Ms. Hernandez I feel it is my right and duty to express my concern. 

    I wanted an email address and will keep trying to get one....but this is a start.  I also want to voice my concern that the letters got out of the jail system, and that the attorney, BOZO, was carrying letters back and forth........I am damn tired of this azzhole getting free passes.....

     ::MonkeyShocked::  The part I bolded above.. the receptionist said that??   ::MonkeyShocked:: 

    Even tho we know that info is true, lol, it was way out of line and totally unprofessional for her to have made such a comment about an inmate, IMO.  But that's just me.  Thanks for sharing that addy! 
     


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 08, 2010, 11:40:08 AM
    That is great news - Thanks Northern.  I wonder what the next move is by the SA's office  ::MonkeyJustice::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Wyks on April 08, 2010, 11:42:25 AM
    SNIPED

    Baez has declined comment since the letters were released. A Chicago-based legal team for Anthony on Tuesday released a statement that said in part, "The letters released today reflect the natural desire for companionship when isolated for 23 hours a day, and clearly demonstrate Casey's unconditional love for her daughter Caylee. Despite these intentions, it is obvious in the letters authored by Robyn Adams that her sole purpose and only goal in corresponding with Casey Anthony was to create 'leverage to get out of prison early.' "
    Outside the attorney's entrance at the jail, a sign clearly states that "Attorneys are not authorized to convey to an inmate any written communication of a personal nature."

    Good morning everyone!

    So Lyons is putting out that Casey had unconditional love for her daughter, ey?   Well beast, let me ask you this:   What mother (young or not) goes for years without a legitimate steady job providing no financial support for her child?   What mother goes out partying practically every night?   What mother carries out a wanton disregard for her own health by screwing half of her community of guys?  What mother admits to drugging her child so that she will remain asleep so she could go out?  What mother takes the risk of landing in jail for habitual stealing?  What mother would not report her child missing & ascertain every avenue of assistance to locate her for over a month?... sorry dont give me the scared excuse because REAL mothers dont work on fear when it comes to their flesh & blood.    O and by the way why does this twisted twit seem to think the public should give a rats behind that her podium defendant is isolated for 23 hours per day, as if, hello she's there for a reason & that reason is beyond heinous.   "natural desire for companionship"  give me a break, this evil ho spent way too much time desiring companionship while all the while neglecting her own child & then having her child pay the ultimate price HER LIFE because her mother is a self-absorbed monster...In one abbreviation, STFU!
    [/quote]


    (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/zMisc/clapping.gif)



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Babybear on April 08, 2010, 11:43:59 AM
    I found this on Major Johnson

    Sherry Johnson, Major
    Major, Security Operations
    Office: (407) 254-8208 Email

    Major Sherry Johnson is a 22 year veteran of the corrections profession. She joined Orange County Corrections in December 1990. She has steadily advanced through to ranks to become the first female Major in the department's history.

    As the Major of Security Operations, Major Johnson has command responsibilities for the Special Response Team/Crisis Response Team, and all security shifts and officers working in all facilities and the perimeter of the jail system.

    http://www.orangecountyfl.net/cms/DEPT/correct/admin/management.htm


    there is a link here to email her!!   ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

    Great work, Sunny. IMO it was highly improper for the receptionist to say what she did about Casey.  Sure, she's a liar, but this woman is in no position to make such a comment.  Maybe we should complain about her?  LOL  I've got to go out to have my rearview mirror replaced.  A few days ago it just exploded--the outside passenger side one.  Strangest thing.  Anyhow, I need to get away from this computer for a while.  I'm getting middle-age spread and I'm far beyond middle-age.  See you all later.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Wyks on April 08, 2010, 11:44:11 AM
    Well poo, I got my clapping in with your post Cappy, sorry.  But hope you get the idea.  lol 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Northern Rose on April 08, 2010, 11:44:16 AM
    There are no statue of limitations for sexual abuse.  I say that since it is in writing an investigation should begin now on Georgie and Lee.  All the Ants say they stand behind their daughter so you can not pick and choose what bits to stand behind.  Time to drag Georgie and Lee into the PD and begin investigation them.  Also, anyone remember the 48 hours special where Cin was BBsitting that little girl?  Would seem remiss to allow a minor in the home let alone near the family when the males of the family have been accused of sexual misconduct by their daughter/sister.  They have a charity for children that should be frozen until the investigation is complete.  Again, the allegations are in writting so to allow them to be involved in the CMA foundation or the Extreme Bass Fishing Search and rescue until they are cleared  would not be appropriate.  What other accused gets a free pass because their attorney issues a statement that it did not happen?  Seems to be sending a message to the RSO's of the world on how to avoid charges and prosecution if none of the allegations are investigated as all you need to do is have an attorney that issues a statement and you get a free pass.  As Cin has said, "there are bits of truth in everything Casey says" and Lee stated in his depo to Morgan that he believes everything his sister says.

    I think it is time the family stop getting the golden glove treatment and be investigated.  It would send a bad message to sexual abuse survivors to turn a blind eye to written allegations.  I hope people are emailing Orange County PD and prosecutors to investigate.

     


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Wyks on April 08, 2010, 11:47:06 AM

    SNIPED

    Baez has declined comment since the letters were released. A Chicago-based legal team for Anthony on Tuesday released a statement that said in part, "The letters released today reflect the natural desire for companionship when isolated for 23 hours a day, and clearly demonstrate Casey's unconditional love for her daughter Caylee. Despite these intentions, it is obvious in the letters authored by Robyn Adams that her sole purpose and only goal in corresponding with Casey Anthony was to create 'leverage to get out of prison early.' "
    Outside the attorney's entrance at the jail, a sign clearly states that "Attorneys are not authorized to convey to an inmate any written communication of a personal nature."


    Good morning everyone!

    So Lyons is putting out that Casey had unconditional love for her daughter, ey?   Well beast, let me ask you this:   What mother (young or not) goes for years without a legitimate steady job providing no financial support for her child?   What mother goes out partying practically every night?   What mother carries out a wanton disregard for her own health by screwing half of her community of guys?  What mother admits to drugging her child so that she will remain asleep so she could go out?  What mother takes the risk of landing in jail for habitual stealing?  What mother would not report her child missing & ascertain every avenue of assistance to locate her for over a month?... sorry dont give me the scared excuse because REAL mothers dont work on fear when it comes to their flesh & blood.    O and by the way why does this twisted twit seem to think the public should give a rats behind that her podium defendant is isolated for 23 hours per day, as if, hello she's there for a reason & that reason is beyond heinous.   "natural desire for companionship"  give me a break, this evil ho spent way too much time desiring companionship while all the while neglecting her own child & then having her child pay the ultimate price HER LIFE because her mother is a self-absorbed monster...In one abbreviation, STFU!


    (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/zMisc/clapping.gif)



    There we go.. hope this didn't make it worse!  lol


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 11:53:23 AM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Details of Casey Anthony Friendship Surface
    04/08/10


    Good Morning Monks!  thanks trim......I questioned the scissors as well...Ms. Hernandez gave an accused murdered a pair of scissors........and opened the cell door..........she is a danger to herself and the the jail....she needs to go.  IMO

    All I could think about when I read that was no way would you get me and Casey Anthony in a room with scissors.....unless I was in control of them ::MonkeyTongue::

    Amen to that!!! ::MonkeyEek::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 11:54:42 AM
    http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23085002/detail.html
    Details Of Anthony Jail Friendship Surface
    Inmate Alleges Anthony Briefly Given Pair Of Scissors

    POSTED: Wednesday, April 7, 2010
    UPDATED: 7:56 am EDT April 8, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. -- Was Casey Anthony allowed to spend the night with another inmate? And was she given a pair of scissors behind bars?

    New information is surfacing in court documents about a friendship between a female inmate and Anthony, the woman accused of killing her own daughter.
    Using a hand-drawn map of the Orange County Jail's women's dorm, inmate Robyn Adams showed investigators where she was housed -- in cell 19 upstairs. She said Casey Anthony was locked up downstairs in cell 12.

    At first, the two women would communicate with each other with flashed hand signals across a room, Adams said.

    But when corrections officers caught on, Adams was moved to a different cell so the two inmates could no longer see each other, Adams said.

    That's when Anthony first started writing letters, which she would stuff between the pages of a book titled, "Let's Do Away With August," Adams said.

    Nearly every morning, Anthony would leave that book on a cart in the dorm's common area and Adams would pick it up at night, Adams said.

    When Anthony returned to jail in September 2008, she was locked up in cell 22. According to Adams, that is where the two women began meeting face to face whenever Adams was allowed to watch TV by herself in the common area. Adams said corrections officer Silvia Hernandez allowed the two women to talk through the slit in Anthony's cell door, which is against jail rules.

    "We would talk to each other through the bean hole. We would talk for hours," Adams told investigators.
    On occasion, Hernandez would allegedly open the cell door so Anthony and Adams could see each other, Adams claimed. And once, the corrections officer actually allowed her inside Anthony's cell, which is an allegation Hernandez denies, Adams said.

    Hernandez said that on one occasion she let Anthony cut Adams' hair.

    "Robyn wanted her bangs cut," Hernandez told investigators.

    "I took Robyn to the door of Casey Anthony and I gave her the scissors and said, 'Go ahead and cut the bang right there at the door,'" Hernandez said.

    Hernandez admits she knew Anthony and Adams were improperly passing letters. The corrections officer did not facilitate the communication, but she said she did not stop it either.

    Meanwhile, new allegations are surfacing that Anthony attorney Jose Baez also broke jail rules by secretly passing messages to his client.

    In her letters, Casey Anthony wrote, "My attorney is keeping tabs on my family for me, and exchanging letters between us."

    In another letter, Anthony claims her attorney is trying to "smuggle" in some word search puzzles.

    Baez has declined comment since the letters were released. A Chicago-based legal team for Anthony on Tuesday released a statement that said in part, "The letters released today reflect the natural desire for companionship when isolated for 23 hours a day, and clearly demonstrate Casey's unconditional love for her daughter Caylee. Despite these intentions, it is obvious in the letters authored by Robyn Adams that her sole purpose and only goal in corresponding with Casey Anthony was to create 'leverage to get out of prison early.' "
    Outside the attorney's entrance at the jail, a sign clearly states that "Attorneys are not authorized to convey to an inmate any written communication of a personal nature."
    Ooh, Baez, BUSTED!  I hope finally someone involved in this case gets busted for breaking the law.  And by the way, Casey doesn't sound like she's being punished unduly.  Watching her soaps, reading, whining about the food, visits from her "boys".  Gee, she's bored, boo hoo.  It doesn't sound harsh enough for someone who murdered her daughter. (I know, she's not been convicted yet.  But she was convicted of stealing from Amy, so shouldn't she be doing some form of hard time?  Baah.

    Baez will get a serious azz kicking by the Florida Bar for his part in this, smuggling contraband into a jail.... how stupid can this man get-  don't answer that.  We haven't heard from the Jail yet either, about his antics... and he wants MORE privacy. No telling what he would do with it..
    I hope he gets his Bae-Azz handed to him on an aluminum platter.  (Silver is too good for him!)
    Do you really think he will get spanked?  It seems to me that he always gets away with EVERYTHING!  I guess I'm really bothered by the unfairness.

    me too!  I am going to make my voice heard....it may not mean a darn thing to anyone other than me....


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 11:56:10 AM
    Sad part the people that are buying the grieving grandparent routine, would probably buy their book and watch the movie  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    yep, but I think that is a very small number


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 11:57:57 AM
    Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!

    Not making light of anyone who has been molested, but I think if there was any molesting going on in the Ant's home, Casey was the instigator.

    hi Darla, I agree.....but I still think it's all part of KC's make believe world


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 11:58:56 AM
    If you have any concerns regarding anything in Ms. Hernandez statement, as I do....here is who you can voice your concerns to:

    Major Johnson
    PO BOX 4970
    Orlando FL 32802-4970

    Administration Receptionist: 407-836-3560

    I called the above to find out who I could speak to regarding concerns.....the receptionist was very haughty in the beginning. She questioned why I would have any concerns over what Ms. Anthony may say as it is well known she is a habitual liar. I told her if it was just from Casey, I wouldn't be concerned. However since the scissors info came directly from Ms. Hernandez I feel it is my right and duty to express my concern. 

    I wanted an email address and will keep trying to get one....but this is a start.  I also want to voice my concern that the letters got out of the jail system, and that the attorney, BOZO, was carrying letters back and forth........I am damn tired of this azzhole getting free passes.....
    Thank-you, OMG even the receptionist is calling Casey a habitual liar  ::MonkeyTongue::

    Yep..her exact words ::rhino::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Wyks on April 08, 2010, 12:01:22 PM
    There are no statue of limitations for sexual abuse.  I say that since it is in writing an investigation should begin now on Georgie and Lee.  All the Ants say they stand behind their daughter so you can not pick and choose what bits to stand behind.  Time to drag Georgie and Lee into the PD and begin investigation them.  Also, anyone remember the 48 hours special where Cin was BBsitting that little girl?  Would seem remiss to allow a minor in the home let alone near the family when the males of the family have been accused of sexual misconduct by their daughter/sister.  They have a charity for children that should be frozen until the investigation is complete.  Again, the allegations are in writting so to allow them to be involved in the CMA foundation or the Extreme Bass Fishing Search and rescue until they are cleared  would not be appropriate.  What other accused gets a free pass because their attorney issues a statement that it did not happen?  Seems to be sending a message to the RSO's of the world on how to avoid charges and prosecution if none of the allegations are investigated as all you need to do is have an attorney that issues a statement and you get a free pass.  As Cin has said, "there are bits of truth in everything Casey says" and Lee stated in his depo to Morgan that he believes everything his sister says.

    I think it is time the family stop getting the golden glove treatment and be investigated.  It would send a bad message to sexual abuse survivors to turn a blind eye to written allegations.  I hope people are emailing Orange County PD and prosecutors to investigate.

     

    Very well said, Northern Rose!   ::rhino::

    Seems if anything will get investigations going, it will likely be the public at large, rising up in protest, to calmy but effectively complain in writing re the continual golden glove treatment of this family. 
     


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 12:01:34 PM
    If you have any concerns regarding anything in Ms. Hernandez statement, as I do....here is who you can voice your concerns to:

    Major Johnson
    PO BOX 4970
    Orlando FL 32802-4970

    Administration Receptionist: 407-836-3560

    I called the above to find out who I could speak to regarding concerns.....the receptionist was very haughty in the beginning. She questioned why I would have any concerns over what Ms. Anthony may say as it is well known she is a habitual liar. I told her if it was just from Casey, I wouldn't be concerned. However since the scissors info came directly from Ms. Hernandez I feel it is my right and duty to express my concern. 

    I wanted an email address and will keep trying to get one....but this is a start.  I also want to voice my concern that the letters got out of the jail system, and that the attorney, BOZO, was carrying letters back and forth........I am damn tired of this azzhole getting free passes.....

     ::MonkeyShocked::  The part I bolded above.. the receptionist said that??   ::MonkeyShocked:: 

    Even tho we know that info is true, lol, it was way out of line and totally unprofessional for her to have made such a comment about an inmate, IMO.  But that's just me.  Thanks for sharing that addy! 
     

    yeppers, she did!!   I don't think she even realized it!  LOL


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 12:04:00 PM
    I found this on Major Johnson

    Sherry Johnson, Major
    Major, Security Operations
    Office: (407) 254-8208 Email

    Major Sherry Johnson is a 22 year veteran of the corrections profession. She joined Orange County Corrections in December 1990. She has steadily advanced through to ranks to become the first female Major in the department's history.

    As the Major of Security Operations, Major Johnson has command responsibilities for the Special Response Team/Crisis Response Team, and all security shifts and officers working in all facilities and the perimeter of the jail system.

    http://www.orangecountyfl.net/cms/DEPT/correct/admin/management.htm


    there is a link here to email her!!   ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

    Great work, Sunny. IMO it was highly improper for the receptionist to say what she did about Casey.  Sure, she's a liar, but this woman is in no position to make such a comment.  Maybe we should complain about her?  LOL  I've got to go out to have my rearview mirror replaced.  A few days ago it just exploded--the outside passenger side one.  Strangest thing.  Anyhow, I need to get away from this computer for a while.  I'm getting middle-age spread and I'm far beyond middle-age.  See you all later.

    I am no going to report her that's for sure..IMO it was a slip ....I imagine this lady get lots of irate callers............I was nice and pleasant, but she was on alert as soon as I mentioned Casey Anthony!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Wyks on April 08, 2010, 12:04:29 PM
    If you have any concerns regarding anything in Ms. Hernandez statement, as I do....here is who you can voice your concerns to:

    Major Johnson
    PO BOX 4970
    Orlando FL 32802-4970

    Administration Receptionist: 407-836-3560

    I called the above to find out who I could speak to regarding concerns.....the receptionist was very haughty in the beginning. She questioned why I would have any concerns over what Ms. Anthony may say as it is well known she is a habitual liar. I told her if it was just from Casey, I wouldn't be concerned. However since the scissors info came directly from Ms. Hernandez I feel it is my right and duty to express my concern. 

    I wanted an email address and will keep trying to get one....but this is a start.  I also want to voice my concern that the letters got out of the jail system, and that the attorney, BOZO, was carrying letters back and forth........I am damn tired of this azzhole getting free passes.....

     ::MonkeyShocked::  The part I bolded above.. the receptionist said that??   ::MonkeyShocked:: 

    Even tho we know that info is true, lol, it was way out of line and totally unprofessional for her to have made such a comment about an inmate, IMO.  But that's just me.  Thanks for sharing that addy! 
     

    yeppers, she did!!   I don't think she even realized it!  LOL

    That's just crazy!  Inappropriate of her, but funny as hell.   ::MonkeyDevil::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 12:04:37 PM
    There are no statue of limitations for sexual abuse.  I say that since it is in writing an investigation should begin now on Georgie and Lee.  All the Ants say they stand behind their daughter so you can not pick and choose what bits to stand behind.  Time to drag Georgie and Lee into the PD and begin investigation them.  Also, anyone remember the 48 hours special where Cin was BBsitting that little girl?  Would seem remiss to allow a minor in the home let alone near the family when the males of the family have been accused of sexual misconduct by their daughter/sister.  They have a charity for children that should be frozen until the investigation is complete.  Again, the allegations are in writting so to allow them to be involved in the CMA foundation or the Extreme Bass Fishing Search and rescue until they are cleared  would not be appropriate.  What other accused gets a free pass because their attorney issues a statement that it did not happen?  Seems to be sending a message to the RSO's of the world on how to avoid charges and prosecution if none of the allegations are investigated as all you need to do is have an attorney that issues a statement and you get a free pass.  As Cin has said, "there are bits of truth in everything Casey says" and Lee stated in his depo to Morgan that he believes everything his sister says.

    I think it is time the family stop getting the golden glove treatment and be investigated.  It would send a bad message to sexual abuse survivors to turn a blind eye to written allegations.  I hope people are emailing Orange County PD and prosecutors to investigate.

     
    Thank-you I totally agree.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 12:05:23 PM
    Sad part the people that are buying the grieving grandparent routine, would probably buy their book and watch the movie  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    yep, but I think that is a very small number
    I sure hope so  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 12:11:28 PM
    Thanks Northern!    ::MonkeyGavel::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 12:18:30 PM
    There are no statue of limitations for sexual abuse.  I say that since it is in writing an investigation should begin now on Georgie and Lee.  All the Ants say they stand behind their daughter so you can not pick and choose what bits to stand behind.  Time to drag Georgie and Lee into the PD and begin investigation them.  Also, anyone remember the 48 hours special where Cin was BBsitting that little girl?  Would seem remiss to allow a minor in the home let alone near the family when the males of the family have been accused of sexual misconduct by their daughter/sister.  They have a charity for children that should be frozen until the investigation is complete.  Again, the allegations are in writting so to allow them to be involved in the CMA foundation or the Extreme Bass Fishing Search and rescue until they are cleared  would not be appropriate.  What other accused gets a free pass because their attorney issues a statement that it did not happen?  Seems to be sending a message to the RSO's of the world on how to avoid charges and prosecution if none of the allegations are investigated as all you need to do is have an attorney that issues a statement and you get a free pass.  As Cin has said, "there are bits of truth in everything Casey says" and Lee stated in his depo to Morgan that he believes everything his sister says.

    I think it is time the family stop getting the golden glove treatment and be investigated.  It would send a bad message to sexual abuse survivors to turn a blind eye to written allegations.  I hope people are emailing Orange County PD and prosecutors to investigate.

     
    Thank-you I totally agree.

    Me too.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 08, 2010, 12:20:44 PM
    There are no statue of limitations for sexual abuse.  I say that since it is in writing an investigation should begin now on Georgie and Lee.  All the Ants say they stand behind their daughter so you can not pick and choose what bits to stand behind.  Time to drag Georgie and Lee into the PD and begin investigation them.  Also, anyone remember the 48 hours special where Cin was BBsitting that little girl?  Would seem remiss to allow a minor in the home let alone near the family when the males of the family have been accused of sexual misconduct by their daughter/sister.  They have a charity for children that should be frozen until the investigation is complete.  Again, the allegations are in writting so to allow them to be involved in the CMA foundation or the Extreme Bass Fishing Search and rescue until they are cleared  would not be appropriate.  What other accused gets a free pass because their attorney issues a statement that it did not happen?  Seems to be sending a message to the RSO's of the world on how to avoid charges and prosecution if none of the allegations are investigated as all you need to do is have an attorney that issues a statement and you get a free pass.  As Cin has said, "there are bits of truth in everything Casey says" and Lee stated in his depo to Morgan that he believes everything his sister says.

    I think it is time the family stop getting the golden glove treatment and be investigated.  It would send a bad message to sexual abuse survivors to turn a blind eye to written allegations.  I hope people are emailing Orange County PD and prosecutors to investigate.

     
    Thank-you I totally agree.

    Me too.
    Me Three!  ::MonkeyGavel::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 12:33:52 PM
    http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/23089821/detail.html
    Judge Grants Transcript Request In Anthony Case
    Prosecutors Seek Transcript Of Aug. 21 Hearing

    POSTED: 11:39 am EDT April 8, 2010
    UPDATED: 12:22 pm EDT April 8, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. --
    Judge Stan Strickland has granted a request from prosecutors in the Casey Anthony case for a transcript of one of the more memorable court hearings.

    On Aug. 21, 2009, Anthony's defense announced they had significant evidence that someone else placed Caylee Anthony's remains in the woods after her mother was locked up.

    At that time, the defense also announced they were waiving their claim that the group Texas EquuSearch was acting as a so-called "agent of the state."

    Defense attorney Jose Baez appeared to contradict that position at a hearing this week and used it in his argument to gain access to records from the volunteer search group.

    It's unclear if the prosecution will need to use that transcript since Strickland denied the defense request for complete access to those EquuSearch records.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Girlzrock on April 08, 2010, 12:37:27 PM
    Hello, Monkeys!  Not to derail anyone's train of thought... but:  Did the police interview with Cecelia Benhaida (Skye) get released?  It seemed to allude to one in the KH interview.....  If it hasn't been released, does anyone think there is a good reason for it, like it may include some sort of "bombshells"?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 12:42:53 PM
    Hello, Monkeys!  Not to derail anyone's train of thought... but:  Did the police interview with Cecelia Benhaida (Skye) get released?  It seemed to allude to one in the KH interview.....  If it hasn't been released, does anyone think there is a good reason for it, like it may include some sort of "bombshells"?
    I wondered that myself, wonder why it wasn't released?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 12:45:11 PM
    There are no statue of limitations for sexual abuse.  I say that since it is in writing an investigation should begin now on Georgie and Lee.  All the Ants say they stand behind their daughter so you can not pick and choose what bits to stand behind.  Time to drag Georgie and Lee into the PD and begin investigation them.  Also, anyone remember the 48 hours special where Cin was BBsitting that little girl?  Would seem remiss to allow a minor in the home let alone near the family when the males of the family have been accused of sexual misconduct by their daughter/sister.  They have a charity for children that should be frozen until the investigation is complete.  Again, the allegations are in writting so to allow them to be involved in the CMA foundation or the Extreme Bass Fishing Search and rescue until they are cleared  would not be appropriate.  What other accused gets a free pass because their attorney issues a statement that it did not happen?  Seems to be sending a message to the RSO's of the world on how to avoid charges and prosecution if none of the allegations are investigated as all you need to do is have an attorney that issues a statement and you get a free pass.  As Cin has said, "there are bits of truth in everything Casey says" and Lee stated in his depo to Morgan that he believes everything his sister says.

    I think it is time the family stop getting the golden glove treatment and be investigated.  It would send a bad message to sexual abuse survivors to turn a blind eye to written allegations.  I hope people are emailing Orange County PD and prosecutors to investigate.

     

    While I agree with pretty much everything you said Northernrose, the problem is there is a very limited way to investigate this further, be it written or not.   I adamantly agree that children have to be protected at all costs so in that regard I do believe any involvement with children should be halted during an investigation.   Speaking to an alleged crime of sexual assault in this case, there are no eyewitnesses (usually arent) as well as George, Lee or Cindy would never say anything otherwise than it didnt happen.   Did Casey write it in any of her diary entries prior to incarceration, doesnt appear so to date.  Casey telling Jesse & Tony in the past may not even raise enough of an eyebrow given her habitual liar history because it doesnt appear that she has proof that she sought medical attention by a gyno or psychiatrist/psychologist, clergyman, support group for same but as I see it that may be the only thing that would given the allegation credibility...and often that pains me both personally & somewhat professionally that for those that are victimized in this most violating of manners have such a tremendous difficulty proving it.   One of the first things that would be advisable for victims is that a dated journal be kept for those that have experienced this so that there is a record of it as it occurred, even if that becomes useful years later.  If its a repeated offense if at all possible to get a recorder that might catch the person in the act of another attempt but these things require a very strong person to think ahead & yes courage....I hate that this actually is horrifically more common than we are aware of or care to admit & I loathe more that so many violators get away with it.   That being said, it is also absolutely horrid to be accused of this crime for innocent persons - no matter the remedy & exoneration it totally ruins their life  & leaves a tarnish on their reputation.

    As we're all aware, whether her allegation is true or not it does not diminish or excuse her allegedly killing Caylee (IMHO did).  Two days ago I mentioned this but it bares repeating, the only thing this may do is help her in the sentencing phase as a mitigating factor as to how it could be related to why she is the monster she is...but again IMHO I doubt it happened nor would be the only reason she is the narcissistic evil sociopath she is.   I would hate to think that every victim of such a violating crime & lifetime familiarity with anguish would be viewed as a potential criminal much less murderer because they were sexually assaulted nor would I hope we dont see it give every defendant the opportunity to make a false allegation because it becomes well known it has been set by precedent to carry heavy consideration as a mitigating factor if the allegation is far from the truth.    It is a tough balance & a very difficult task to protect the innocent while at the same time getting these sums-of-a-britches convicted - them getting out at all or too soon is a conversation for another day.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 08, 2010, 12:48:24 PM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Details of Casey Anthony Friendship Surface
    04/08/10


    Good Morning Monks!  thanks trim......I questioned the scissors as well...Ms. Hernandez gave an accused murdered a pair of scissors........and opened the cell door..........she is a danger to herself and the the jail....she needs to go.  IMO

    When I read about the "scissors" and cutting hair, I was like WTF?!!
    What....A murdered 2 year old baby not enough for these people....... ::MonkeyMad::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 12:50:11 PM
    If Casey mentioned to the chaplin about being molested, is he able to come forth with this info, or is it like a priest in a confessional?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 12:52:37 PM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Details of Casey Anthony Friendship Surface
    04/08/10


    Good Morning Monks!  thanks trim......I questioned the scissors as well...Ms. Hernandez gave an accused murdered a pair of scissors........and opened the cell door..........she is a danger to herself and the the jail....she needs to go.  IMO

    When I read about the "scissors" and cutting hair, I was like WTF?!!
    What....A murdered 2 year old baby not enough for these people....... ::MonkeyMad::
    I wouldn't want to get either of those ladies mad at me  ::MonkeyEek:: Wow, I wondered what the other woman looked like.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: O4Bull on April 08, 2010, 12:54:48 PM
    There are no statue of limitations for sexual abuse.  I say that since it is in writing an investigation should begin now on Georgie and Lee.  All the Ants say they stand behind their daughter so you can not pick and choose what bits to stand behind.  Time to drag Georgie and Lee into the PD and begin investigation them.  Also, anyone remember the 48 hours special where Cin was BBsitting that little girl?  Would seem remiss to allow a minor in the home let alone near the family when the males of the family have been accused of sexual misconduct by their daughter/sister.  They have a charity for children that should be frozen until the investigation is complete.  Again, the allegations are in writting so to allow them to be involved in the CMA foundation or the Extreme Bass Fishing Search and rescue until they are cleared  would not be appropriate.  What other accused gets a free pass because their attorney issues a statement that it did not happen?  Seems to be sending a message to the RSO's of the world on how to avoid charges and prosecution if none of the allegations are investigated as all you need to do is have an attorney that issues a statement and you get a free pass.  As Cin has said, "there are bits of truth in everything Casey says" and Lee stated in his depo to Morgan that he believes everything his sister says.


    I think it is time the family stop getting the golden glove treatment and be investigated.  It would send a bad message to sexual abuse survivors to turn a blind eye to written allegations.  I hope people are emailing Orange County PD and prosecutors to investigate.

     

    BBM^^^
    I so wish Kathi Belich would ask lee if he still believes everything his sister says, and then ask cindy what part of casey's accusations are true?  great points Northern Rose.  hi Monks!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Girlzrock on April 08, 2010, 12:55:06 PM
    If Casey mentioned to the chaplin about being molested, is he able to come forth with this info, or is it like a priest in a confessional?

    Or perhaps the, was it a doctor?, KC claimed to go get help from when she was 18?  I supposed she could allow that person to reveal what was said at that time.  She probably doesn't have the number anymore.  Dang! where is that Blackjack phone!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 12:57:44 PM
    If Casey mentioned to the chaplin about being molested, is he able to come forth with this info, or is it like a priest in a confessional?

    I haven't a clue.............

    something that has really been bothering me about the letters is KC referring to God as Daddy not Father......but Daddy.....she did it numerous times.....and each time I thought she said it almost as a mockery.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 12:58:44 PM
    If Casey mentioned to the chaplin about being molested, is he able to come forth with this info, or is it like a priest in a confessional?

    Or perhaps the, was it a doctor?, KC claimed to go get help from when she was 18?  I supposed she could allow that person to reveal what was said at that time.  She probably doesn't have the number anymore.  Dang! where is that Blackjack phone!
    ::MonkeyHaHa:: I wonder if she really did see a doctor at 18? But then there is that mess with doctor/patient info, but if she said the doctor could talk about what she said, I don't know how that would all work.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: O4Bull on April 08, 2010, 12:58:49 PM
    If you have any concerns regarding anything in Ms. Hernandez statement, as I do....here is who you can voice your concerns to:

    Major Johnson
    PO BOX 4970
    Orlando FL 32802-4970

    Administration Receptionist: 407-836-3560

    I called the above to find out who I could speak to regarding concerns.....the receptionist was very haughty in the beginning. She questioned why I would have any concerns over what Ms. Anthony may say as it is well known she is a habitual liar. I told her if it was just from Casey, I wouldn't be concerned. However since the scissors info came directly from Ms. Hernandez I feel it is my right and duty to express my concern. 

    I wanted an email address and will keep trying to get one....but this is a start.  I also want to voice my concern that the letters got out of the jail system, and that the attorney, BOZO, was carrying letters back and forth........I am damn tired of this azzhole getting free passes.....
    Thank-you, OMG even the receptionist is calling Casey a habitual liar  ::MonkeyTongue::

    Yep..her exact words ::rhino::
    I'm betting the receptionist is calling her a habitual liar in case any more dirt comes out about others at the jail!!
    In one way, the betrayal is sad, because you have 2 losers conning each other.  Then, on the other hand, it makes you wanna jump in the air and HIGH FIVE lee everyone who cares about justice for Caylee.  I feel like the devil got his her due.  ::MonkeyDevil::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 12:59:07 PM
    There are no statue of limitations for sexual abuse.  I say that since it is in writing an investigation should begin now on Georgie and Lee.  All the Ants say they stand behind their daughter so you can not pick and choose what bits to stand behind.  Time to drag Georgie and Lee into the PD and begin investigation them.  Also, anyone remember the 48 hours special where Cin was BBsitting that little girl?  Would seem remiss to allow a minor in the home let alone near the family when the males of the family have been accused of sexual misconduct by their daughter/sister.  They have a charity for children that should be frozen until the investigation is complete.  Again, the allegations are in writting so to allow them to be involved in the CMA foundation or the Extreme Bass Fishing Search and rescue until they are cleared  would not be appropriate.  What other accused gets a free pass because their attorney issues a statement that it did not happen?  Seems to be sending a message to the RSO's of the world on how to avoid charges and prosecution if none of the allegations are investigated as all you need to do is have an attorney that issues a statement and you get a free pass.  As Cin has said, "there are bits of truth in everything Casey says" and Lee stated in his depo to Morgan that he believes everything his sister says.

    I think it is time the family stop getting the golden glove treatment and be investigated.  It would send a bad message to sexual abuse survivors to turn a blind eye to written allegations.  I hope people are emailing Orange County PD and prosecutors to investigate. 

    I agree.....I have been on an email quest this morning as well.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 01:00:13 PM
    If Casey mentioned to the chaplin about being molested, is he able to come forth with this info, or is it like a priest in a confessional?

    I haven't a clue.............

    something that has really been bothering me about the letters is KC referring to God as Daddy not Father......but Daddy.....she did it numerous times.....and each time I thought she said it almost as a mockery.
    I have never heard anyone ever refer to God like that before  ::MonkeyEek:: She could have been mocking God, I couldn't tell.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on April 08, 2010, 01:00:54 PM
    There are no statue of limitations for sexual abuse.  I say that since it is in writing an investigation should begin now on Georgie and Lee.  All the Ants say they stand behind their daughter so you can not pick and choose what bits to stand behind.  Time to drag Georgie and Lee into the PD and begin investigation them.  Also, anyone remember the 48 hours special where Cin was BBsitting that little girl?  Would seem remiss to allow a minor in the home let alone near the family when the males of the family have been accused of sexual misconduct by their daughter/sister.  They have a charity for children that should be frozen until the investigation is complete.  Again, the allegations are in writting so to allow them to be involved in the CMA foundation or the Extreme Bass Fishing Search and rescue until they are cleared  would not be appropriate.  What other accused gets a free pass because their attorney issues a statement that it did not happen?  Seems to be sending a message to the RSO's of the world on how to avoid charges and prosecution if none of the allegations are investigated as all you need to do is have an attorney that issues a statement and you get a free pass.  As Cin has said, "there are bits of truth in everything Casey says" and Lee stated in his depo to Morgan that he believes everything his sister says.

    I think it is time the family stop getting the golden glove treatment and be investigated.  It would send a bad message to sexual abuse survivors to turn a blind eye to written allegations.  I hope people are emailing Orange County PD and prosecutors to investigate.

     
    Thank-you I totally agree.

    Me too.
    Hello monkeys, nothing like a doc dump to keep me reading for ahh 8 hours straight!! As Nancy Grace has previously stated, BOMBSHELL TONITE! I have always contested that although Casey had a hand in her daughter's death directly, it may have indirectly been sustained by an accident. We all wanted pieces to the puzzle, and Thank God up above for Robyn Adam's and her potgrowing hubby!! I now can rest assured knowing details of this case that previous to tonight had kept me up reading thousands of pages of evidence. I always slightly believed Casey when accusing Lee of molesting her. Now that it has been refined to "touching of the breasts" I am convinced. Not because Casey is credible, but because she will use any opportunity to taint her mother's reputation of being a "good" mother, and this in fact was the case. Cindy's denial, and later accusation that it was the reason Casey was a slut understandable, and believable *oddly enough*              As for sleazy cheesey George, who would put it passed him to think with his little head even while Caylee was "missing"? River Cruz definitely pulled a Monica on Georgie, and he took the bait. Hello monkeys, nothing like a doc dump to keep me reading for ahh 8 hours straight!! As Nancy Grace has previously stated, BOMBSHELL TONITE! I have always contested that although Casey had a hand in her daughter death directly, it may have indirectly been sustained by an accident. We all wanted pieces to the puzzle, and Thank God up above for Robyn Adam's and her potgrowing hubby!! I know can rest easily knowing details of this case that previous to tonight, kept me up reading thousands of pages of evidence. I always slightly believed Casey when accusing Lee of molesting her. Now that it has been refined to "touching of the breasts" I am convinced. Not because Casey is credible, but because she will use any opportunity to taint her mother's reputation of being a "good" mother, and this in fact was the case. Cindy's denial, and later accusation that it was the reason Casey was a slut understandable, and believable *oddly enough*              As for sleazy cheesey George, who would put it passed him to think with his little head even while Caylee was "missing"? River Cruz definitely pulled a Monica on Georgie, and he took the bait.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: O4Bull on April 08, 2010, 01:03:53 PM
    If Casey mentioned to the chaplin about being molested, is he able to come forth with this info, or is it like a priest in a confessional?

    I haven't a clue.............

    something that has really been bothering me about the letters is KC referring to God as Daddy not Father......but Daddy.....she did it numerous times.....and each time I thought she said it almost as a mockery.
    I have never heard anyone ever refer to God like that before  ::MonkeyEek:: She could have been mocking God, I couldn't tell.
    I've never heard that personally, either.  The real sense of mockery for me was that her sneezes were confirmation that she was right about something.  I think she wants to appear crazy.  Good thing she won't have to work too hard at it.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 01:05:59 PM
    If Casey mentioned to the chaplin about being molested, is he able to come forth with this info, or is it like a priest in a confessional?

    I haven't a clue.............

    something that has really been bothering me about the letters is KC referring to God as Daddy not Father......but Daddy.....she did it numerous times.....and each time I thought she said it almost as a mockery.
    I have never heard anyone ever refer to God like that before  ::MonkeyEek:: She could have been mocking God, I couldn't tell.
    I've never heard that personally, either.  The real sense of mockery for me was that her sneezes were confirmation that she was right about something.  I think she wants to appear crazy.  Good thing she won't have to work too hard at it.
    She sure appears crazy to me, that sneezing nonsense did it for me.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Northern Rose on April 08, 2010, 01:11:33 PM
    Judge Grants Transcript Request In Anthony Case
    Prosecutors Seek Transcript Of Aug. 21 Hearing

    ORLANDO, Fla. -- Judge Stan Strickland has granted a request from prosecutors in the Casey Anthony case for a transcript of one of the more memorable court hearings.

    On Aug. 21, 2009, Anthony's defense announced they had significant evidence that someone else placed Caylee Anthony's remains in the woods after her mother was locked up.

    At that time, the defense also announced they were waiving their claim that the group Texas EquuSearch was acting as a so-called "agent of the state."

    Defense attorney Jose Baez appeared to contradict that position at a hearing this week and used it in his argument to gain access to records from the volunteer search group.

    It's unclear if the prosecution will need to use that transcript since Strickland denied the defense request for complete access to those EquuSearch records.

    http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/23089821/detail.html


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on April 08, 2010, 01:15:26 PM
     Hello monkeys, nothing like a doc dump to keep me reading for ahh 8 hours straight!! As Nancy Grace has previously stated, BOMBSHELL TONITE! I have always contested that although Casey had a hand in her daughter death directly, it may have indirectly been sustained by an accident. We all wanted pieces to the puzzle, and Thank God up above for Robyn Adam's and her potgrowing hubby!! I know can rest easily knowing details of this case that previous to tonight, kept me up reading thousands of pages of evidence. I always slightly believed Casey when accusing Lee of molesting her. Now that it has been refined to "touching of the breasts" I am convinced. Not because Casey is credible, but because she will use any opportunity to taint her mother's reputation of being a "good" mother, and this in fact was the case. Cindy's denial, and later accusation that it was the reason Casey was a slut understandable, and believable *oddly enough*              As for sleazy cheesey George, who would put it passed him to think with his little head even while Caylee was "missing"? River Cruz definitely pulled a Monica on Georgie, and he took the bait. <edit previous post repeat>


    As for the cause of Caylee's death we will never know, Casey will take that to her grave. She obviously is adamant that she had no play in the death of her baby. It may have very well been an accident, but what kind of accident? CinCin's interviews always seemed scripted, or a diversion for either her or Casey's benefit. When I found she was caught off guard, and divulged a little too much was when she was questioned about the air matress. She claimed the air matress was gone while Caylee was gone, and somehow found its way back to the house afterward. She even made it apparent that LE had discovered it before she had. Anyone remember where Casey slept during her first days out?? On an air matress in mommy and daddy's room.! I have always believed that Caylee's demise happened the nite of the 16th, while Casey was with Tony Lazarro. Reasons: 1- Caylee was found in a pull-up, when everyone was aware she only wore them at bedtime, as she was already being pottytrained. 2- She was wrapped in a blanket, but was wearing shorts?  3- Casey Anthony woke up late after that first nite with Tony, rushing home right after. 4- The cadaver dogs hit in the backyard, where it was never proven Caylee was. ....I believe Casey had Caylee hidden in the shed overnite, on the airmatress with duct tape on her mouth, in case she didn't knock her out long enough. Caylee overdosed and died, to be found by Casey on the 17th. This also plays into why she used that particular laundry bag, that previously held play plastic balls...in the shed. Why she needed the shovel in the backyard, and why she was backed up in the garage. Uhh..overload. What do you think Monkeys?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 01:32:16 PM
    Hello, Monkeys!  Not to derail anyone's train of thought... but:  Did the police interview with Cecelia Benhaida (Skye) get released?  It seemed to allude to one in the KH interview.....  If it hasn't been released, does anyone think there is a good reason for it, like it may include some sort of "bombshells"?

    Hi Girlz.....I saw reference to it but it was not released.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 01:38:04 PM
    The Anthonys have officially called Casey a liar with the sex abuse accusations, do they also call her a liar with everything else she has said, or will they stick behind her with the other lies?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 01:38:50 PM
    If Casey mentioned to the chaplin about being molested, is he able to come forth with this info, or is it like a priest in a confessional?

    I haven't a clue.............

    something that has really been bothering me about the letters is KC referring to God as Daddy not Father......but Daddy.....she did it numerous times.....and each time I thought she said it almost as a mockery.
    I have never heard anyone ever refer to God like that before  ::MonkeyEek:: She could have been mocking God, I couldn't tell.

    No faithful person be it lifetime or as a result of finding God in prison even would refer to God almighty, our heavenly father as "daddy."  What I gleam from Casey using "daddy" is she was trying to impress her gal pal inmate friend with being "cool."   TThis mental midget is extremely immature not to mention emotionally severely stunted.  As I see it, it is yet one more indication that Casey has absolutely no respect for anything or anyone.   Another thing I noticed in her ramblings is a designed attempt to appear "crazy" and guess what its transparent.

    As far as the chaplain goes, this may help:
    PRINCIPLE III
    CONFIDENTIALITY

    Confidentiality is respected by all members, Oral and written communication is received with the expectation that such remains confidential and not divulged to others. An exception may be made where the content of such communication reveals danger to staff or prisoners and the prisoner is informed of the need for disclosure.

    Religious faiths hold that confidentiality by their clergy or those with parallel designation is a sacred trust. The Seal of the Sacrament of Confession and parallel requirements by all faith groups in matters of confidentiality are recognized and respected.

    http://www.correctionalchaplains.org/what_is_the_acca.htm


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 01:39:32 PM
    The Anthonys have officially called Casey a liar with the sex abuse accusations, do they also call her a liar with everything else she has said, or will they stick behind her with the other lies?
    O but no, they are "mistruths" doncha know  ::MonkeyHaHa::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 01:50:09 PM
    The Anthonys have officially called Casey a liar with the sex abuse accusations, do they also call her a liar with everything else she has said, or will they stick behind her with the other lies?
    O but no, they are "mistruths" doncha know  ::MonkeyHaHa::
    But how are they going to pick and choose her mistruths? Thanks for the chaplain info  ::MonkeyCool::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 01:50:49 PM
    Judge Grants Transcript Request In Anthony Case
    Prosecutors Seek Transcript Of Aug. 21 Hearing

    ORLANDO, Fla. -- Judge Stan Strickland has granted a request from prosecutors in the Casey Anthony case for a transcript of one of the more memorable court hearings.

    On Aug. 21, 2009, Anthony's defense announced they had significant evidence that someone else placed Caylee Anthony's remains in the woods after her mother was locked up.

    At that time, the defense also announced they were waiving their claim that the group Texas EquuSearch was acting as a so-called "agent of the state."

    Defense attorney Jose Baez appeared to contradict that position at a hearing this week and used it in his argument to gain access to records from the volunteer search group.

    It's unclear if the prosecution will need to use that transcript since Strickland denied the defense request for complete access to those EquuSearch records.

    http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/23089821/detail.html

    Ummm. I do believe Wesh has this wrong, that is not why the prosecution asked for the transcript at all.   In Macadoodles excited utterance in his last court appearance in this case before his sorry greedy arse got put in a sling by the Cali Bar...he not only adamantly exclaimed that they had proof that the body was placed there after Casey was incarcerated but that in fact that they could prove someone else did it, in others words she is innocent.   The defense was given a deadline to provide such discovery....they never did.   


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Tevye on April 08, 2010, 01:51:42 PM
    Prime News video 04/07/10
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947

    Issues with Jane Velez Mitchell  04/07/10
    Transcript
    http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/07/ijvm.01.html

    thanks trim....this is one show I really can't watch....JVM really gets my blood pressure raging.......perhaps I can read the transcript
    Every time I see "Issues With Jane Veleze Mitchell" I think "Good, somebody finally started a group for people like us who have issues with Jane!"  ::MonkeyDevil::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 08, 2010, 01:52:24 PM
    The Anthonys have officially called Casey a liar with the sex abuse accusations, do they also call her a liar with everything else she has said, or will they stick behind her with the other lies?

    Interesting to me is she was also hanging Cindy in all this, by saying she told her mom.  Cindy being a nurse would have to report that info or lose her nursing license.  She did the same thing again when she told the other inmate she got the chloroform from Cindy..who got it from work.  Both situations put Cindy's nursing license in jeopardy.

    I still don't believe the sex abuse, nor do I believe Cindy provided the chloroform.  Why look up how to make chloroform if Mommy is bringing it home.  Secondly..Cindy worked in an office environment and would have no access to chloroform.

    I really wish the family would burn her butt over these accusations rather then sit idly by.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 01:54:17 PM
    The Anthonys have officially called Casey a liar with the sex abuse accusations, do they also call her a liar with everything else she has said, or will they stick behind her with the other lies?
    O but no, they are "mistruths" doncha know  ::MonkeyHaHa::
    But how are they going to pick and choose her mistruths? Thanks for the chaplain info  ::MonkeyCool::

    Most welcome....o good lord Casey's "truth" versus "mistruths" are a far cry apart...Her mistruths lie in Orlando & her truth is somewhere located somewhere deep within eastbumblefudge.  I think we'd all have a better shot at winning the lottery.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 01:55:29 PM
    Prime News video 04/07/10
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947

    Issues with Jane Velez Mitchell  04/07/10
    Transcript
    http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/07/ijvm.01.html

    thanks trim....this is one show I really can't watch....JVM really gets my blood pressure raging.......perhaps I can read the transcript
    Every time I see "Issues With Jane Veleze Mitchell" I think "Good, somebody finally started a group for people like us who have issues with Jane!"  ::MonkeyDevil::

     ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::rhino::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 01:57:39 PM
    The Anthonys have officially called Casey a liar with the sex abuse accusations, do they also call her a liar with everything else she has said, or will they stick behind her with the other lies?

    Interesting to me is she was also hanging Cindy in all this, by saying she told her mom.  Cindy being a nurse would have to report that info or lose her nursing license.  She did the same thing again when she told the other inmate she got the chloroform from Cindy..who got it from work.  Both situations put Cindy's nursing license in jeopardy.

    I still don't believe the sex abuse, nor do I believe Cindy provided the chloroform.  Why look up how to make chloroform if Mommy is bringing it home.  Secondly..Cindy worked in an office environment and would have no access to chloroform.

    I really wish the family would burn her butt over these accusations rather then sit idly by.
    Gypsy, my original and ongoing thought is she killed Caylee to spite her mother (freedom being a secondary motive) & I also think that she intended to pin the murder on her mother but something got that foiled in the midst of her crimes.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 02:02:18 PM
    O/T:   Are some of you seeing this breaking news that a "Survivor" producer is now being accused of his wife's death, in Mexico, they were staying at the Moon Palace Resort in Cancun.   Her birthday was yesterday and preliminary reports indicated she was strangled.   No news whether there has been domestic abuse complaints prior but its been reported at the resort that they were arguing the night before.   WOW!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Tevye on April 08, 2010, 02:02:24 PM

    I hope he gets his Bae-Azz handed to him on an aluminum platter.  (Silver is too good for him!)
    Do you really think he will get spanked?  It seems to me that he always gets away with EVERYTHING!  I guess I'm really bothered by the unfairness.

    Bozo has finally ticked me off enough to do something about it. I wrote the Govenor of the FLABAR and asked her what could be done about him, who has to file complaints, etc. I am amazed at how restrained I was..heck, I even remembered to call him Baez instead of Bozo!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 02:08:17 PM

    I hope he gets his Bae-Azz handed to him on an aluminum platter.  (Silver is too good for him!)
    Do you really think he will get spanked?  It seems to me that he always gets away with EVERYTHING!  I guess I'm really bothered by the unfairness.

    Bozo has finally ticked me off enough to do something about it. I wrote the Govenor of the FLABAR and asked her what could be done about him, who has to file complaints, etc. I am amazed at how restrained I was..heck, I even remembered to call him Baez instead of Bozo!!

    You go Tevye!     ::MonkeyGavel::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 02:12:24 PM

    I hope he gets his Bae-Azz handed to him on an aluminum platter.  (Silver is too good for him!)
    Do you really think he will get spanked?  It seems to me that he always gets away with EVERYTHING!  I guess I'm really bothered by the unfairness.

    Bozo has finally ticked me off enough to do something about it. I wrote the Govenor of the FLABAR and asked her what could be done about him, who has to file complaints, etc. I am amazed at how restrained I was..heck, I even remembered to call him Baez instead of Bozo!!

    GO Tevye!  Let me know what I can do to help!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Western Observr on April 08, 2010, 02:13:47 PM
    The Anthonys have officially called Casey a liar with the sex abuse accusations, do they also call her a liar with everything else she has said, or will they stick behind her with the other lies?

    Interesting to me is she was also hanging Cindy in all this, by saying she told her mom.  Cindy being a nurse would have to report that info or lose her nursing license.  She did the same thing again when she told the other inmate she got the chloroform from Cindy..who got it from work.  Both situations put Cindy's nursing license in jeopardy.

    I still don't believe the sex abuse, nor do I believe Cindy provided the chloroform.  Why look up how to make chloroform if Mommy is bringing it home.  Secondly..Cindy worked in an office environment and would have no access to chloroform.

    I really wish the family would burn her butt over these accusations rather then sit idly by.

    Not only that but no Hospital Nurse or employee would have access to Chloroform either. Casey is in way over her head when she makes stupid accusations like this- Chloroform has been out of medical use for several decades.
    She also says she is 'milking her disability'-  yes we can all see that, but how about telling the world that your Mother is doing it!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Deenie on April 08, 2010, 02:13:59 PM
    The Anthonys have officially called Casey a liar with the sex abuse accusations, do they also call her a liar with everything else she has said, or will they stick behind her with the other lies?
    Hi NoRose and everyone. That is something to think about. All this time, Lee has said " I believe everything my Sister says" (( A monkey just pointed that out)) George has said in depo's I believe in what my Daughter says, she is telling the truth. And then their is Cindy...the same thing. My Daughter would never hurt Caylee, she is telling the truth ...

    So now they  "Stand UP" for themselves because the proverbial finger is being pointed directly at them. Because of accusations against them as individuals. These people are grown adults. All of them. The mindset of this family is so incredibly dysfunctional. They state what Casey has said is not true about sexual abuse, abuse in the home.... that she is lying. Quite the opposite of their past behavior. Casey does not lie.
    Why couldn't they or why didn't they stand up for Caylee.  Caylee how she felt, who was not old enough to communicate for most of the time she was with her mother, when she was alive. Her Mother dragging her around, doing god knows, to her, with her. Subjecting her to ??? They all deserve each other. All three of them are as guilty as their Princess KC. The few photos there are of Caylee where she looks wore out, she looks like she has a bruise on her upper cheek. Her face is pasty and puffy .. Why did Caylee look that way? Was that one of the nights that Caylee was drugged or the next day. Who took the photos? Casey I am guessing.  ::MonkeyMad::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Deenie on April 08, 2010, 02:16:00 PM
    The Anthonys have officially called Casey a liar with the sex abuse accusations, do they also call her a liar with everything else she has said, or will they stick behind her with the other lies?

    Interesting to me is she was also hanging Cindy in all this, by saying she told her mom.  Cindy being a nurse would have to report that info or lose her nursing license.  She did the same thing again when she told the other inmate she got the chloroform from Cindy..who got it from work.  Both situations put Cindy's nursing license in jeopardy.

    I still don't believe the sex abuse, nor do I believe Cindy provided the chloroform.  Why look up how to make chloroform if Mommy is bringing it home.  Secondly..Cindy worked in an office environment and would have no access to chloroform.

    I really wish the family would burn her butt over these accusations rather then sit idly by.

    Not only that but no Hospital Nurse or employee would have access to Chloroform either. Casey is in way over her head when she makes stupid accusations like this- Chloroform has been out of medical use for several decades.
    She also says she is 'milking her disability'-  yes we can all see that, but how about telling the world that your Mother is doing it!
    I agree


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Western Observr on April 08, 2010, 02:17:01 PM

    I hope he gets his Bae-Azz handed to him on an aluminum platter.  (Silver is too good for him!)
    Do you really think he will get spanked?  It seems to me that he always gets away with EVERYTHING!  I guess I'm really bothered by the unfairness.

    Bozo has finally ticked me off enough to do something about it. I wrote the Govenor of the FLABAR and asked her what could be done about him, who has to file complaints, etc. I am amazed at how restrained I was..heck, I even remembered to call him Baez instead of Bozo!!

    I wrote a complaint email when Bozo first started all the public hand holding, cuddling etc - I said he was bringing his profession into disrepute, and was advised they would review my complaint and get back to me. Since then-  nada.
    I have seen on other sites that legal people say they don't have to investigate unless you are a party to the case in some way.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Nut44x4 on April 08, 2010, 02:18:57 PM
    SNIPED

    Baez has declined comment since the letters were released. A Chicago-based legal team for Anthony on Tuesday released a statement that said in part, "The letters released today reflect the natural desire for companionship when isolated for 23 hours a day, and clearly demonstrate Casey's unconditional love for her daughter Caylee. Despite these intentions, it is obvious in the letters authored by Robyn Adams that her sole purpose and only goal in corresponding with Casey Anthony was to create 'leverage to get out of prison early.' "
    Outside the attorney's entrance at the jail, a sign clearly states that "Attorneys are not authorized to convey to an inmate any written communication of a personal nature."
    ~~~~~~

    Good morning everyone!

    So Lyons is putting out that Casey had unconditional love for her daughter, ey?   Well beast, let me ask you this:   What mother (young or not) goes for years without a legitimate steady job providing no financial support for her child?   What mother goes out partying practically every night?   What mother carries out a wanton disregard for her own health by screwing half of her community of guys?  What mother admits to drugging her child so that she will remain asleep so she could go out?  What mother takes the risk of landing in jail for habitual stealing?  What mother would not report her child missing & ascertain every avenue of assistance to locate her for over a month?... sorry dont give me the scared excuse because REAL mothers dont work on fear when it comes to their flesh & blood.    O and by the way why does this twisted twit seem to think the public should give a rats behind that her podium defendant is isolated for 23 hours per day, as if, hello she's there for a reason & that reason is beyond heinous.   "natural desire for companionship"  give me a break, this evil ho spent way too much time desiring companionship while all the while neglecting her own child & then having her child pay the ultimate price HER LIFE because her mother is a self-absorbed monster...In one abbreviation, STFU!


     ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeySlide::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Western Observr on April 08, 2010, 02:20:18 PM

    I hope he gets his Bae-Azz handed to him on an aluminum platter.  (Silver is too good for him!)
    Do you really think he will get spanked?  It seems to me that he always gets away with EVERYTHING!  I guess I'm really bothered by the unfairness.

    Bozo has finally ticked me off enough to do something about it. I wrote the Govenor of the FLABAR and asked her what could be done about him, who has to file complaints, etc. I am amazed at how restrained I was..heck, I even remembered to call him Baez instead of Bozo!!

    I am hoping that Jail officials will file a complaint against him with the Bar.  Of course Baez could always deny it but that would confirm the fact that his client is a liar.  He is going to be between a rock and a hard place!  ::MonkeyGavel::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 02:22:52 PM
    Well said Nut!   ::MonkeyGavel::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Deenie on April 08, 2010, 02:27:01 PM

    I hope he gets his Bae-Azz handed to him on an aluminum platter.  (Silver is too good for him!)
    Do you really think he will get spanked?  It seems to me that he always gets away with EVERYTHING!  I guess I'm really bothered by the unfairness.

    Bozo has finally ticked me off enough to do something about it. I wrote the Govenor of the FLABAR and asked her what could be done about him, who has to file complaints, etc. I am amazed at how restrained I was..heck, I even remembered to call him Baez instead of Bozo!!

    I am hoping that Jail officials will file a complaint against him with the Bar.  Of course Baez could always deny it but that would confirm the fact that his client is a liar.  He is going to be between a rock and a hard place!  ::MonkeyGavel::
    He " Baez" was already Popped for contraband back in Jan 09. Remember the Bracelet. Then he was Popped again for inappropriate touching - client atty.
    http://www.wftv.com/news/18606881/detail.html


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Western Observr on April 08, 2010, 02:28:23 PM
    If memory serves, "Macadoodle" went further than just stating that the body was placed there after his client was incarcerated, he claimed Casey to be innocent

    The Defense was given until February 2010 to come up with the so called evidence that proved Casey's innocence.  They are still waiting. The SA asked for a transcript of that statement at the latest hearing. Hopefully they are going to back to the Judge and ask for them to produce it or retract it.  Now that will be fun... ::MonkeyGavel::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 08, 2010, 02:31:45 PM
    Prime News video 04/07/10
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947

    Issues with Jane Velez Mitchell  04/07/10
    Transcript
    http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/07/ijvm.01.html

    thanks trim....this is one show I really can't watch....JVM really gets my blood pressure raging.......perhaps I can read the transcript
    Every time I see "Issues With Jane Veleze Mitchell" I think "Good, somebody finally started a group for people like us who have issues with Jane!"  ::MonkeyDevil::

    Hahaha!

    Followed by "Issues with Nancy Grace"?

     ::MonkeyGavel::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Deenie on April 08, 2010, 02:33:13 PM
    Some one posted in the last few days. Was it here? I don't know. I read it online.
    Maybe Hinky. But they made a very good observation.

    Casey sitting in court. Sitting at the table. Writing on her tablet. As Jose or others were speaking to the Judge. The cameras panned back and forth. So I don't believe this was actually seen. A person's observation of what possibly could have taken place..

    Casey was writing to GA/CA  - this is how Bobo got the letters out to the Ants from Casey. That the tablet would be scooped up by Baez at the end of the session- thrown in his briefcase. And after the fact - he would then give the letters to CA/GA.. Makes sense to me. Why not let it happen right before everyone's eyes. Doesn't seem so sneaky does it.

     


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: ckrdpast on April 08, 2010, 02:36:14 PM
    Judge Grants Transcript Request In Anthony Case
    Prosecutors Seek Transcript Of Aug. 21 Hearing

    ORLANDO, Fla. -- Judge Stan Strickland has granted a request from prosecutors in the Casey Anthony case for a transcript of one of the more memorable court hearings.

    On Aug. 21, 2009, Anthony's defense announced they had significant evidence that someone else placed Caylee Anthony's remains in the woods after her mother was locked up.

    At that time, the defense also announced they were waiving their claim that the group Texas EquuSearch was acting as a so-called "agent of the state."

    Defense attorney Jose Baez appeared to contradict that position at a hearing this week and used it in his argument to gain access to records from the volunteer search group.

    It's unclear if the prosecution will need to use that transcript since Strickland denied the defense request for complete access to those EquuSearch records.

    http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/23089821/detail.html

    Ummm. I do believe Wesh has this wrong, that is not why the prosecution asked for the transcript at all.   In Macadoodles excited utterance in his last court appearance in this case before his sorry greedy arse got put in a sling by the Cali Bar...he not only adamantly exclaimed that they had proof that the body was placed there after Casey was incarcerated but that in fact that they could prove someone else did it, in others words she is innocent.   The defense was given a deadline to provide such discovery....they never did.   


    http://www.wftv.com/video/23057236/index.html

    about 4 minutes into the video JB denies he ever abandoned that TES is an agent of the state-- Judge Strickland ask LDB if she can get a transcript of the hearing -


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 02:37:49 PM

    I hope he gets his Bae-Azz handed to him on an aluminum platter.  (Silver is too good for him!)
    Do you really think he will get spanked?  It seems to me that he always gets away with EVERYTHING!  I guess I'm really bothered by the unfairness.

    Bozo has finally ticked me off enough to do something about it. I wrote the Govenor of the FLABAR and asked her what could be done about him, who has to file complaints, etc. I am amazed at how restrained I was..heck, I even remembered to call him Baez instead of Bozo!!
    ::MonkeyCool::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 02:41:41 PM
    Prime News video 04/07/10
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947

    Issues with Jane Velez Mitchell  04/07/10
    Transcript
    http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/07/ijvm.01.html

    thanks trim....this is one show I really can't watch....JVM really gets my blood pressure raging.......perhaps I can read the transcript
    Every time I see "Issues With Jane Veleze Mitchell" I think "Good, somebody finally started a group for people like us who have issues with Jane!"  ::MonkeyDevil::

    Hahaha!

    Followed by "Issues with Nancy Grace"?

     ::MonkeyGavel::

     ::MonkeyJnBox::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: loca on April 08, 2010, 02:42:03 PM
    Never fails !
    every inmate miracilously gets jailhouse religion. They find Jesus in jail where it's convenient for their case and their new look. But the minute they get released  they loose their religion like fleas jumping off their skin.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: loca on April 08, 2010, 02:48:45 PM
    Sorry Monkeys!
    for my rudeness
    I wish you a good morning/noon day/evening.
    I have been busy reading all the letters and geez I almost feel like its a rambling teen writing all these crazy things. I am remembering at one  point where casey is complaining that her attorneys cannot get a call back from cindy. Supposedly she is blowing them off! and cindy is refusing to bring casey decent clothes.

    Do most of you think that the anthonys will continue to support her. Ok now my feeling is that she is more toast now than she was before.

    I want to know if anyone is thinking that baez will be in trouble to the florida bar for taking letters to her and giving her contraband? like pens and god knows what else. This is really gotten to be a mess. So baez spent all her money! as we see it mostly went to him! all I can see that he is done is file motions. oh and traveled to New York and we know he made a fun day out  of it.


    I would like to add a special thank you to klassend for allowing me the priviledge of  being here, she knows what I mean.
    this is the best in the net along with blinks. It holds more informationation that is incredible and both your integreties along with your other helpers is inpedable
    thanks again klaasend.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: loca on April 08, 2010, 02:49:27 PM
    Sorry Monkeys!
    for my rudeness
    I wish you a good morning/noon day/evening.
    I have been busy reading all the letters and geez I almost feel like its a rambling teen writing all these crazy things. I am remembering at one  point where casey is complaining that her attorneys cannot get a call back from cindy. Supposedly she is blowing them off! and cindy is refusing to bring casey decent clothes.

    Do most of you think that the anthonys will continue to support her. Ok now my feeling is that she is more toast now than she was before.

    I want to know if anyone is thinking that baez will be in trouble to the florida bar for taking letters to her and giving her contraband? like pens and god knows what else. This is really gotten to be a mess. So baez spent all her money! as we see it mostly went to him! all I can see that he is done is file motions. oh and traveled to New York and we know he made a fun day out  of it.


    I would like to add a special thank you to klassend for allowing me the priviledge of  being here, she knows what I mean.
    this is the best in the net along with blinks. It holds more informationation that is incredible and both your integreties along with your other helpers is inpedable
    thanks again klaasend.

    sorry klaasend I meant inpecable!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 02:50:14 PM
    Someone on another forum just brought up that Cindy could lose her nursing license if it turns out Casey came to her about abuse and she didn't report it. That I would have no idea if that is true, but interesting. I sure would love to hear Cindy's brother Rick right about now on the topic of abuse  ::MonkeyEek::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: loca on April 08, 2010, 02:54:21 PM

    I hope he gets his Bae-Azz handed to him on an aluminum platter.  (Silver is too good for him!)
    Do you really think he will get spanked?  It seems to me that he always gets away with EVERYTHING!  I guess I'm really bothered by the unfairness.

    Bozo has finally ticked me off enough to do something about it. I wrote the Govenor of the FLABAR and asked her what could be done about him, who has to file complaints, etc. I am amazed at how restrained I was..heck, I even remembered to call him Baez instead of Bozo!!

    I am hoping that Jail officials will file a complaint against him with the Bar.  Of course Baez could always deny it but that would confirm the fact that his client is a liar.  He is going to be between a rock and a hard place!  ::MonkeyGavel::
    He " Baez" was already Popped for contraband back in Jan 09. Remember the Bracelet. Then he was Popped again for inappropriate touching - client atty.
    http://www.wftv.com/news/18606881/detail.html
    monkalicious
    I hope that he is held accountable for all his actions. He went in there knowing that what he was doing was not allowed than he proceeds. The thing that realsy annoys me is his action in court last time. He was smirking and mocking nejame and linda ! he is so dern arrogant! I wished the judge would put him in his place the man needs court  etiquette 101 ansd  a crash course in  law ethics for dummies.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Deenie on April 08, 2010, 02:54:39 PM
    Never fails !
    every inmate miracilously gets jailhouse religion. They find Jesus in jail where it's convenient for their case and their new look. But the minute they get released  they loose their religion like fleas jumping off their skin.
    Isn't is so! O Snap. All that I did read which was not much. Casey's references of being the Flower Child of God ..and That she is has this pure relationship with God ..was enough to make me puke. The other things I noticed Loca is within her thoughts.. She thinks she is getting out. She clearly believes that she is going to walk. Her mindset at the time. I don't believe her mindset has changed. That is why she looks different today than she did just a year ago. She has convinced herself " this is temporary" and that she is a Super Star. I did skim some of the letters last night. I could not take much. I did read on one page which I don't know if anyone caught it. Within in all her Girl Camp letters ..she wrote to Robyn
    I can't decide whether I want to be a Red Head or a Blond. I have to pick out some colored contacts too.  I have working on picking out my new name. So when people see me on the street they will say Isn't that Casey Anthony?? ......No Hahahah. She as well was trying to choose where her new home was going to be ..that she is planning on moving. I think it was page 479..   ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: loca on April 08, 2010, 02:58:01 PM

    I hope he gets his Bae-Azz handed to him on an aluminum platter.  (Silver is too good for him!)
    Do you really think he will get spanked?  It seems to me that he always gets away with EVERYTHING!  I guess I'm really bothered by the unfairness.

    Bozo has finally ticked me off enough to do something about it. I wrote the Govenor of the FLABAR and asked her what could be done about him, who has to file complaints, etc. I am amazed at how restrained I was..heck, I even remembered to call him Baez instead of Bozo!!

    I am hoping that Jail officials will file a complaint against him with the Bar.  Of course Baez could always deny it but that would confirm the fact that his client is a liar.  He is going to be between a rock and a hard place!  ::MonkeyGavel::
    He " Baez" was already Popped for contraband back in Jan 09. Remember the Bracelet. Then he was Popped again for inappropriate touching - client atty.
    http://www.wftv.com/news/18606881/detail.html
    monkalicious
    I hope that he is held accountable for all his actions. He went in there knowing that what he was doing was not allowed than he proceeds. The thing that realsy annoys me is his action in court last time. He was smirking and mocking nejame and linda ! he is so dern arrogant! I wished the judge would put him in his place the man needs court  etiquette 101 ansd  a crash course in  law ethics for dummies.

    is there anything we can do ? can we write anyone to complain about this! in order to get the Florida bars attention ? didnt she say in her letter that he was bringing her contraband(letter to cookie)
    geez what an appropiate name they both are cookie!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 02:58:31 PM
    If memory serves, "Macadoodle" went further than just stating that the body was placed there after his client was incarcerated, he claimed Casey to be innocent

    The Defense was given until February 2010 to come up with the so called evidence that proved Casey's innocence.  They are still waiting. The SA asked for a transcript of that statement at the latest hearing. Hopefully they are going to back to the Judge and ask for them to produce it or retract it.  Now that will be fun... ::MonkeyGavel::

    TKS WO, that's what I thought, Im actually looking for a clip of exactly what he said as we speak


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 02:59:59 PM

    I hope he gets his Bae-Azz handed to him on an aluminum platter.  (Silver is too good for him!)
    Do you really think he will get spanked?  It seems to me that he always gets away with EVERYTHING!  I guess I'm really bothered by the unfairness.

    Bozo has finally ticked me off enough to do something about it. I wrote the Govenor of the FLABAR and asked her what could be done about him, who has to file complaints, etc. I am amazed at how restrained I was..heck, I even remembered to call him Baez instead of Bozo!!

    I am hoping that Jail officials will file a complaint against him with the Bar.  Of course Baez could always deny it but that would confirm the fact that his client is a liar.  He is going to be between a rock and a hard place!  ::MonkeyGavel::
    He " Baez" was already Popped for contraband back in Jan 09. Remember the Bracelet. Then he was Popped again for inappropriate touching - client atty.
    http://www.wftv.com/news/18606881/detail.html
    monkalicious
    I hope that he is held accountable for all his actions. He went in there knowing that what he was doing was not allowed than he proceeds. The thing that realsy annoys me is his action in court last time. He was smirking and mocking nejame and linda ! he is so dern arrogant! I wished the judge would put him in his place the man needs court  etiquette 101 ansd  a crash course in  law ethics for dummies.

    I just talked to an attorney friend in Houston.  She said  IHO all KC would have to do is say she was lying.........and we all know she does that quite well! Nothing would be done even if the jail filed a complaint unless KC swears to it!!  And then since there is nothing to back it up, still he would just walk away scott free.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 03:02:58 PM
    Thanks Sunny  ::MonkeyEek::  I just asked my daughter who is in nursing school that question about Cindy and not reporting abuse in the home, she could lose her license. So I don't know  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: loca on April 08, 2010, 03:05:56 PM
    Never fails !
    every inmate miracilously gets jailhouse religion. They find Jesus in jail where it's convenient for their case and their new look. But the minute they get released  they loose their religion like fleas jumping off their skin.
    Isn't is so! O Snap. All that I did read which was not much. Casey's references of being the Flower Child of God ..and That she is has this pure relationship with God ..was enough to make me puke. The other things I noticed Loca is within her thoughts.. She thinks she is getting out. She clearly believes that she is going to walk. Her mindset at the time. I don't believe her mindset has changed. That is why she looks different today than she did just a year ago. She has convinced herself " this is temporary" and that she is a Super Star. I did skim some of the letters last night. I could not take much. I did read on one page which I don't know if anyone caught it. Within in all her Girl Camp letters ..she wrote to Robyn
    I can't decide whether I want to be a Red Head or a Blond. I have to pick out some colored contacts too.  I have working on picking out my new name. So when people see me on the street they will say Isn't that Casey Anthony?? ......No Hahahah. She as well was trying to choose where her new home was going to be ..that she is planning on moving. I think it was page 479..   ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Yes Deenie
    I read that part and thats where I left it for the night! I couldnt handle anymore!
    but clearly she is so convinced that she is going on vacation ! they have given her the  assumption that she will walk!! also did you see the part that she talks about wedding proposals and something like they call her a princess or something to that affect.She bad mouths jesse! never mentions tony at all however she does mention sex!
     she rambles on about her mother clearly she hates her oh and about cindy copywriting caylees name and an atempt to copy wright her name. she talks about her mom popping up on tv and the money.  she clearly hates her mother more than anyone else.

    I think these petters especialy with the mention of giving caylee cloroform to sleep is going to be a bigg factor in sealing her fate!!!

    I never got thru the rest of the letters its difficult to understand her big hand writing. she is delusional totaly!!!

    Deenie what is yourr take on  baez and his smuggling contrband?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: loca on April 08, 2010, 03:07:16 PM
    Never fails !
    every inmate miracilously gets jailhouse religion. They find Jesus in jail where it's convenient for their case and their new look. But the minute they get released  they loose their religion like fleas jumping off their skin.
    Isn't is so! O Snap. All that I did read which was not much. Casey's references of being the Flower Child of God ..and That she is has this pure relationship with God ..was enough to make me puke. The other things I noticed Loca is within her thoughts.. She thinks she is getting out. She clearly believes that she is going to walk. Her mindset at the time. I don't believe her mindset has changed. That is why she looks different today than she did just a year ago. She has convinced herself " this is temporary" and that she is a Super Star. I did skim some of the letters last night. I could not take much. I did read on one page which I don't know if anyone caught it. Within in all her Girl Camp letters ..she wrote to Robyn
    I can't decide whether I want to be a Red Head or a Blond. I have to pick out some colored contacts too.  I have working on picking out my new name. So when people see me on the street they will say Isn't that Casey Anthony?? ......No Hahahah. She as well was trying to choose where her new home was going to be ..that she is planning on moving. I think it was page 479..   ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Yes Deenie
    I read that part and thats where I left it for the night! I couldnt handle anymore!
    but clearly she is so convinced that she is going on vacation ! they have given her the  assumption that she will walk!! also did you see the part that she talks about wedding proposals and something like they call her a princess or something to that affect.She bad mouths jesse! never mentions tony at all however she does mention sex!
     she rambles on about her mother clearly she hates her oh and about cindy copywriting caylees name and an atempt to copy wright her name. she talks about her mom popping up on tv and the money.  she clearly hates her mother more than anyone else.

    I think these petters especialy with the mention of giving caylee cloroform to sleep is going to be a bigg factor in sealing her fate!!!

    I never got thru the rest of the letters its difficult to understand her big hand writing. she is delusional totaly!!!

    Deenie what is yourr take on  baez and his smuggling contrband?

    Deenie
    she will walk!!!



    right to the guerney for her dose of death!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 03:07:57 PM
    Thanks Sunny  ::MonkeyEek::  I just asked my daughter who is in nursing school that question about Cindy and not reporting abuse in the home, she could lose her license. So I don't know  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    I don't either..... ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Deenie on April 08, 2010, 03:09:10 PM
    Sunny, Capp, and everyone ...

    What about this Hernandez the guard .. Like I said the other day in question. What else did she allow to go on between Casey and Baez. What else did she take a blind eye to .. I wonder if Baez paid her? Those were crucial times that she allowed Casey to get away with anything in jail - It was before Caylee was found and directly after Caylee was found.

    Anything is possible with Baez it seems. He I think " has something" major up his sleeve. That he doesn't care if this is the last case he tries. Or if he is disbarred. What is ace in the hole is I don't know.  Who knows what he did with the 250k? He could have thrown it into an offshore account making huge interest on it..and used his own money to fund the case. He could make any records or statements look good " from his office" as long as there was real money at the time.  He is a snake.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: loca on April 08, 2010, 03:09:56 PM
    Never fails !
    every inmate miracilously gets jailhouse religion. They find Jesus in jail where it's convenient for their case and their new look. But the minute they get released  they loose their religion like fleas jumping off their skin.
    Isn't is so! O Snap. All that I did read which was not much. Casey's references of being the Flower Child of God ..and That she is has this pure relationship with God ..was enough to make me puke. The other things I noticed Loca is within her thoughts.. She thinks she is getting out. She clearly believes that she is going to walk. Her mindset at the time. I don't believe her mindset has changed. That is why she looks different today than she did just a year ago. She has convinced herself " this is temporary" and that she is a Super Star. I did skim some of the letters last night. I could not take much. I did read on one page which I don't know if anyone caught it. Within in all her Girl Camp letters ..she wrote to Robyn
    I can't decide whether I want to be a Red Head or a Blond. I have to pick out some colored contacts too.  I have working on picking out my new name. So when people see me on the street they will say Isn't that Casey Anthony?? ......No Hahahah. She as well was trying to choose where her new home was going to be ..that she is planning on moving. I think it was page 479..   ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Yes Deenie
    I read that part and thats where I left it for the night! I couldnt handle anymore!
    but clearly she is so convinced that she is going on vacation ! they have given her the  assumption that she will walk!! also did you see the part that she talks about wedding proposals and something like they call her a princess or something to that affect.She bad mouths jesse! never mentions tony at all however she does mention sex!
     she rambles on about her mother clearly she hates her oh and about cindy copywriting caylees name and an atempt to copy wright her name. she talks about her mom popping up on tv and the money.  she clearly hates her mother more than anyone else.

    I think these petters especialy with the mention of giving caylee cloroform to sleep is going to be a bigg factor in sealing her fate!!!

    I never got thru the rest of the letters its difficult to understand her big hand writing. she is delusional totaly!!!

    Deenie what is yourr take on  baez and his smuggling contrband?

    Deenie
    she will walk!!!



    right to the guerney for her dose of death!!

    Deenie
    did you get the impression that she  was accusing cindy of playing the system with her leave of abscence from her job???


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 08, 2010, 03:11:40 PM
    If memory serves, "Macadoodle" went further than just stating that the body was placed there after his client was incarcerated, he claimed Casey to be innocent

    The Defense was given until February 2010 to come up with the so called evidence that proved Casey's innocence.  They are still waiting. The SA asked for a transcript of that statement at the latest hearing. Hopefully they are going to back to the Judge and ask for them to produce it or retract it.  Now that will be fun... ::MonkeyGavel::

    TKS WO, that's what I thought, Im actually looking for a clip of exactly what he said as we speak

    Maybe you can find a link from here Capp....they have a quote of Macadoodle's from the hearing

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-5262129-504083.html


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: loca on April 08, 2010, 03:12:48 PM
    Sunny, Capp, and everyone ...

    What about this Hernandez the guard .. Like I said the other day in question. What else did she allow to go on between Casey and Baez. What else did she take a blind eye to .. I wonder if Baez paid her? Those were crucial times that she allowed Casey to get away with anything in jail - It was before Caylee was found and directly after Caylee was found.

    Anything is possible with Baez it seems. He I think " has something" major up his sleeve. That he doesn't care if this is the last case he tries. Or if he is disbarred. What is ace in the hole is I don't know.  Who knows what he did with the 250k? He could have thrown it into an offshore account making huge interest on it..and used his own money to fund the case. He could make any records or statements look good " from his office" as long as there was real money at the time.  He is a snake.


    Hell maybe he stuffed in a swiss bank or in his gramas  old under wear sewn at the seems.

    I am sure they can get alot out of sylvia if they question her. hell she is already in trouble she better start her singing. Cuz I am so sure she allowed alot wonder if she let em have sex? wouldnt it have been hilarious  if casey would have gotten pregant


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 08, 2010, 03:14:23 PM
    Never fails !
    every inmate miracilously gets jailhouse religion. They find Jesus in jail where it's convenient for their case and their new look. But the minute they get released  they loose their religion like fleas jumping off their skin.

    I noticed she still has her potty mouth even when she writes about God "Daddy" in one sentence in the next sentence she is cursing.  Then she is waiting for the Rapture..when more and more children will go missing.

    She tries to show empathy for her friend..yet even her friend is stunned when she writes  how much she misses her kids and then Casey's replies are always about moving away..the two of them ..this time to Costa Rica.  LOL


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: loca on April 08, 2010, 03:15:33 PM
    Thanks Sunny  ::MonkeyEek::  I just asked my daughter who is in nursing school that question about Cindy and not reporting abuse in the home, she could lose her license. So I don't know  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    I don't either..... ::MonkeyNoNo::

    how can that be I dont doubt it but how! that would affect her license?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 08, 2010, 03:18:18 PM
    The Anthonys have officially called Casey a liar with the sex abuse accusations, do they also call her a liar with everything else she has said, or will they stick behind her with the other lies?

    Interesting to me is she was also hanging Cindy in all this, by saying she told her mom.  Cindy being a nurse would have to report that info or lose her nursing license.  She did the same thing again when she told the other inmate she got the chloroform from Cindy..who got it from work.  Both situations put Cindy's nursing license in jeopardy.

    I still don't believe the sex abuse, nor do I believe Cindy provided the chloroform.  Why look up how to make chloroform if Mommy is bringing it home.  Secondly..Cindy worked in an office environment and would have no access to chloroform.

    I really wish the family would burn her butt over these accusations rather then sit idly by.

    IIRC the searches for the chloroform was not done until AFTER Caylee was missing and already dead which made me wonder if someone did give her the chloroform and was trying to find a way to buy it online to cover that up.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 03:19:15 PM
    Thanks Sunny  ::MonkeyEek::  I just asked my daughter who is in nursing school that question about Cindy and not reporting abuse in the home, she could lose her license. So I don't know  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    I don't either..... ::MonkeyNoNo::

    how can that be I dont doubt it but how! that would affect her license?
    Not reporting abuse whether physical or sexual.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 03:19:41 PM
    Sunny, Capp, and everyone ...

    What about this Hernandez the guard .. Like I said the other day in question. What else did she allow to go on between Casey and Baez. What else did she take a blind eye to .. I wonder if Baez paid her? Those were crucial times that she allowed Casey to get away with anything in jail - It was before Caylee was found and directly after Caylee was found.

    Anything is possible with Baez it seems. He I think " has something" major up his sleeve. That he doesn't care if this is the last case he tries. Or if he is disbarred. What is ace in the hole is I don't know.  Who knows what he did with the 250k? He could have thrown it into an offshore account making huge interest on it..and used his own money to fund the case. He could make any records or statements look good " from his office" as long as there was real money at the time.  He is a snake.


    deenie, those are questions I have been asking as well....I think Robyn Adams has more to tell......and I would BET her attorney (s) is trying to work a deal.....I have to go back and read some of the letters and have been putting it off as it really does give me a headache....but KC talks about someone(s) taking Robyn case via BOZO....I wish I had taken notes but I didn't........but it keeps gnawing at me....if anyone remembers please shout out!  So if BOZO is associated in any way with any attorney(s) for Robyn I can't see her talking anymore without a deal


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 03:19:51 PM
    If memory serves, "Macadoodle" went further than just stating that the body was placed there after his client was incarcerated, he claimed Casey to be innocent

    The Defense was given until February 2010 to come up with the so called evidence that proved Casey's innocence.  They are still waiting. The SA asked for a transcript of that statement at the latest hearing. Hopefully they are going to back to the Judge and ask for them to produce it or retract it.  Now that will be fun... ::MonkeyGavel::

    TKS WO, that's what I thought, Im actually looking for a clip of exactly what he said as we speak

    Judge Grants Prosecution Request In Casey Case
    http://www.wftv.com/news/23090521/detail.html

    Posted: 12:43 pm EDT April 8, 2010
    Updated: 1:12 pm EDT April 8, 2010

    ORLANDO, Fla. -- A judge Thursday granted the prosecution’s request for a transcript of a hearing last August.
    The state wanted the full transcript of that hearing, because one of Casey's former defense attorneys, Todd Macaluso, proclaimed her innocence in court.
    So far, prosecutors have not said why they want the report.
    Macaluso left the defense team about two months ago, because of a disciplinary issue with the California Bar.



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 03:21:29 PM
    Sunny, Capp, and everyone ...

    What about this Hernandez the guard .. Like I said the other day in question. What else did she allow to go on between Casey and Baez. What else did she take a blind eye to .. I wonder if Baez paid her? Those were crucial times that she allowed Casey to get away with anything in jail - It was before Caylee was found and directly after Caylee was found.

    Anything is possible with Baez it seems. He I think " has something" major up his sleeve. That he doesn't care if this is the last case he tries. Or if he is disbarred. What is ace in the hole is I don't know.  Who knows what he did with the 250k? He could have thrown it into an offshore account making huge interest on it..and used his own money to fund the case. He could make any records or statements look good " from his office" as long as there was real money at the time.  He is a snake.


    Hell maybe he stuffed in a swiss bank or in his gramas  old under wear sewn at the seems.

    I am sure they can get alot out of sylvia if they question her. hell she is already in trouble she better start her singing. Cuz I am so sure she allowed alot wonder if she let em have sex? wouldnt it have been hilarious  if casey would have gotten pregant

    loca you made my heart stop with that statement.......KC preggers GOD FORBID!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 03:26:07 PM
    Thanks Sunny  ::MonkeyEek::  I just asked my daughter who is in nursing school that question about Cindy and not reporting abuse in the home, she could lose her license. So I don't know  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0464/SEC018.HTM&Title=-%3E2009-%3ECh0464-%3ESection%20018#0464.018
    464.018  Disciplinary actions.--


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 03:27:10 PM
    Thanks Cappy.   ::HelloKitty::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 08, 2010, 03:27:39 PM
    Never fails !
    every inmate miracilously gets jailhouse religion. They find Jesus in jail where it's convenient for their case and their new look. But the minute they get released  they loose their religion like fleas jumping off their skin.

    I noticed she still has her potty mouth even when she writes about God "Daddy" in one sentence in the next sentence she is cursing.  Then she is waiting for the Rapture..when more and more children will go missing.

    She tries to show empathy for her friend..yet even her friend is stunned when she writes  how much she misses her kids and then Casey's replies are always about moving away..the two of them ..this time to Costa Rica.  LOL

    Oh, and how about  her telling Robyn she wants to "adopt" a child.....KC says she's always wanted to adopt a child from a foreign country, but has decided to adopt a US child when released from jail.
    God help our children!!

    It's mind boggling that this evil woman can even entertain the thoughts of having or adopting another child within what, months? of her own daughter kidnapped/murdered!!! (of course she knew Caylee was dead because she murdered her) I'm not sure of the time frame these letters were written, if Caylee's remains were found.

    Evil is too kind of a word to describe KC......IMO


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 08, 2010, 03:29:58 PM
    The Anthonys have officially called Casey a liar with the sex abuse accusations, do they also call her a liar with everything else she has said, or will they stick behind her with the other lies?

    Interesting to me is she was also hanging Cindy in all this, by saying she told her mom.  Cindy being a nurse would have to report that info or lose her nursing license.  She did the same thing again when she told the other inmate she got the chloroform from Cindy..who got it from work.  Both situations put Cindy's nursing license in jeopardy.

    I still don't believe the sex abuse, nor do I believe Cindy provided the chloroform.  Why look up how to make chloroform if Mommy is bringing it home.  Secondly..Cindy worked in an office environment and would have no access to chloroform.

    I really wish the family would burn her butt over these accusations rather then sit idly by.

    IIRC the searches for the chloroform was not done until AFTER Caylee was missing and already dead which made me wonder if someone did give her the chloroform and was trying to find a way to buy it online to cover that up.
    Turbo I am not for absolute sure on this but I think the searches were done in March of prior to Caylee going missing, but if I am wrong will some nice monkey correct me.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 08, 2010, 03:29:58 PM
    The Anthonys have officially called Casey a liar with the sex abuse accusations, do they also call her a liar with everything else she has said, or will they stick behind her with the other lies?

    Interesting to me is she was also hanging Cindy in all this, by saying she told her mom.  Cindy being a nurse would have to report that info or lose her nursing license.  She did the same thing again when she told the other inmate she got the chloroform from Cindy..who got it from work.  Both situations put Cindy's nursing license in jeopardy.

    I still don't believe the sex abuse, nor do I believe Cindy provided the chloroform.  Why look up how to make chloroform if Mommy is bringing it home.  Secondly..Cindy worked in an office environment and would have no access to chloroform.

    I really wish the family would burn her butt over these accusations rather then sit idly by.

    IIRC the searches for the chloroform was not done until AFTER Caylee was missing and already dead which made me wonder if someone did give her the chloroform and was trying to find a way to buy it online to cover that up.

    I thought the neck-breaking and how to make chloroform searches were done in March, before Caylee was murdered.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 03:34:45 PM
    Never fails !
    every inmate miracilously gets jailhouse religion. They find Jesus in jail where it's convenient for their case and their new look. But the minute they get released  they loose their religion like fleas jumping off their skin.

    I noticed she still has her potty mouth even when she writes about God "Daddy" in one sentence in the next sentence she is cursing.  Then she is waiting for the Rapture..when more and more children will go missing.

    She tries to show empathy for her friend..yet even her friend is stunned when she writes  how much she misses her kids and then Casey's replies are always about moving away..the two of them ..this time to Costa Rica.  LOL

    Her gestures to show her "friend" support, empathy are so veiled.   She interjects a few comments here and there to make it appear she gives a dang but she doesnt & that is quite evident.   As always, it turns around to being all about her, what she wants, how she sees things.   Her mentions of Caylee are meant for what it could confuse a jury with BUT it is so transparent that she is saying them by design not from the heart.  When she does mention her it again quickly goes on to another more self-indulging subject, ya know like what she is having for lunch that day.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 08, 2010, 03:36:26 PM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Details of Casey Anthony Friendship Surface
    04/08/10


    Good Morning Monks!  thanks trim......I questioned the scissors as well...Ms. Hernandez gave an accused murdered a pair of scissors........and opened the cell door..........she is a danger to herself and the the jail....she needs to go.  IMO
    ::MonkeyEek:: I don't even know what to say. I also wanted to say that if Casey is making this up about George and Lee and the sexual abuse, I do feel sorry for both men to have such vile accusations thrown their way, that is horrible.

    I don't think she is making it up at all. I think there is even more there than she is telling yet. She has all the behaviors of a woman who was sexually abused as a young child. The excessive need to have men's attention no matter what the personal cost to her. Maybe the teen thing with Lee was a "learned" behavior or even a mimicked behavior. Kids in a family KNOW the family secrets and one child in a family will always act out the family secret. Then we have the adulterous behaviors of CA all within this time frame.

    Take a serious look/see at what we see in GA. He like KC has a love/hate relationship with CA.  He is a womanizer, has an addictive personality and evidently from info released has had problems with alcohol, gambling, and other addictive behaviors. Sexual addictions go right along with those addictive behaviors. They also had a very CLOSED family with no friends included in their household which is always indicative of some type of family secret. How many families do you know where there are teenagers and none of their friends come to their house? Something was very wrong in that family and I am going with my first gut instinct that there was some type of sexual malfeasance.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 03:39:53 PM
    Thanks Sunny  ::MonkeyEek::  I just asked my daughter who is in nursing school that question about Cindy and not reporting abuse in the home, she could lose her license. So I don't know  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0464/SEC018.HTM&Title=-%3E2009-%3ECh0464-%3ESection%20018#0464.018
    464.018  Disciplinary actions.--
    Thanks Trimm  ::MonkeyCool::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: ckrdpast on April 08, 2010, 03:44:54 PM
    If memory serves, "Macadoodle" went further than just stating that the body was placed there after his client was incarcerated, he claimed Casey to be innocent

    The Defense was given until February 2010 to come up with the so called evidence that proved Casey's innocence.  They are still waiting. The SA asked for a transcript of that statement at the latest hearing. Hopefully they are going to back to the Judge and ask for them to produce it or retract it.  Now that will be fun... ::MonkeyGavel::

    TKS WO, that's what I thought, Im actually looking for a clip of exactly what he said as we speak

    Judge Grants Prosecution Request In Casey Case
    http://www.wftv.com/news/23090521/detail.html

    Posted: 12:43 pm EDT April 8, 2010
    Updated: 1:12 pm EDT April 8, 2010

    ORLANDO, Fla. -- A judge Thursday granted the prosecution’s request for a transcript of a hearing last August.
    The state wanted the full transcript of that hearing, because one of Casey's former defense attorneys, Todd Macaluso, proclaimed her innocence in court.
    So far, prosecutors have not said why they want the report.
    Macaluso left the defense team about two months ago, because of a disciplinary issue with the California Bar.



    here's my take on this--  first off
    the Judge granted permission for the request because he, himself asked LDB if she could get it
    and it was all in the context of if Baez had waived his claim that TES is an agent of the state
    per my link in post #1460

    second--something in that story doesnt make sense to me

     it says the State wanted the transcript because "one of Casey's former defense attorneys, Todd Macaluso, proclaimed her innocence in court", and the next sentence states " prosecutors have not said why they want the report"

    a bit confusing

    i couldnt find a clip to where the defense was given a date to "put up or shut up"  but it did find the one of macaluso-stating his nonsense at the hearing..


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 08, 2010, 03:47:02 PM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Details of Casey Anthony Friendship Surface
    04/08/10


    Good Morning Monks!  thanks trim......I questioned the scissors as well...Ms. Hernandez gave an accused murdered a pair of scissors........and opened the cell door..........she is a danger to herself and the the jail....she needs to go.  IMO
    ::MonkeyEek:: I don't even know what to say. I also wanted to say that if Casey is making this up about George and Lee and the sexual abuse, I do feel sorry for both men to have such vile accusations thrown their way, that is horrible.

    I don't think she is making it up at all. I think there is even more there than she is telling yet. She has all the behaviors of a woman who was sexually abused as a young child. The excessive need to have men's attention no matter what the personal cost to her. Maybe the teen thing with Lee was a "learned" behavior or even a mimicked behavior. Kids in a family KNOW the family secrets and one child in a family will always act out the family secret. Then we have the adulterous behaviors of CA all within this time frame.

    Take a serious look/see at what we see in GA. He like KC has a love/hate relationship with CA.  He is a womanizer, has an addictive personality and evidently from info released has had problems with alcohol, gambling, and other addictive behaviors. Sexual addictions go right along with those addictive behaviors. They also had a very CLOSED family with no friends included in their household which is always indicative of some type of family secret. How many families do you know where there are teenagers and none of their friends come to their house? Something was very wrong in that family and I am going with my first gut instinct that there was some type of sexual malfeasance.

    I just can't see Lee in an incestuous relationship with Casey. I think he could barely stand her because she was so much like her Dad.  I think he hated the constant drama.  He kept to himself and got out of that house as soon as he could. 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 08, 2010, 03:48:43 PM
    Sunny, Capp, and everyone ...

    What about this Hernandez the guard .. Like I said the other day in question. What else did she allow to go on between Casey and Baez. What else did she take a blind eye to .. I wonder if Baez paid her? Those were crucial times that she allowed Casey to get away with anything in jail - It was before Caylee was found and directly after Caylee was found.

    Anything is possible with Baez it seems. He I think " has something" major up his sleeve. That he doesn't care if this is the last case he tries. Or if he is disbarred. What is ace in the hole is I don't know.  Who knows what he did with the 250k? He could have thrown it into an offshore account making huge interest on it..and used his own money to fund the case. He could make any records or statements look good " from his office" as long as there was real money at the time.  He is a snake.


    deenie, those are questions I have been asking as well....I think Robyn Adams has more to tell......and I would BET her attorney (s) is trying to work a deal.....I have to go back and read some of the letters and have been putting it off as it really does give me a headache....but KC talks about someone(s) taking Robyn case via BOZO....I wish I had taken notes but I didn't........but it keeps gnawing at me....if anyone remembers please shout out!  So if BOZO is associated in any way with any attorney(s) for Robyn I can't see her talking anymore without a deal



    If this is true, then here is another connection between players in this convoluted mess.


    It's on page 258 and 516......


    not word for word, just the gist of it

    Jose came through for Robyn; Mike and Michelle agreed to take Robyn's case. Jose and Mike practied together in Miami before Jose moved to Orlando. KC is very good friends with Mike and Michelle and they are working on her case too. (and here we go again)


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 03:50:37 PM
    Never fails !
    every inmate miracilously gets jailhouse religion. They find Jesus in jail where it's convenient for their case and their new look. But the minute they get released  they loose their religion like fleas jumping off their skin.

    I noticed she still has her potty mouth even when she writes about God "Daddy" in one sentence in the next sentence she is cursing.  Then she is waiting for the Rapture..when more and more children will go missing.

    She tries to show empathy for her friend..yet even her friend is stunned when she writes  how much she misses her kids and then Casey's replies are always about moving away..the two of them ..this time to Costa Rica.  LOL

    Oh, and how about  her telling Robyn she wants to "adopt" a child.....KC says she's always wanted to adopt a child from a foreign country, but has decided to adopt a US child when released from jail.
    God help our children!!

    It's mind boggling that this evil woman can even entertain the thoughts of having or adopting another child within what, months? of her own daughter kidnapped/murdered!!! (of course she knew Caylee was dead because she murdered her) I'm not sure of the time frame these letters were written, if Caylee's remains were found.

    Evil is too kind of a word to describe KC......IMO

    there is no word to fit her.....


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 08, 2010, 03:51:46 PM
    I have another question on child abuse and sexual abuse.  If she did infact go to a counselor with these claims of sexual abuse from her brother..is the counselor or clinic involved supposed to file a report?  I thought all professionals, nurses, counselors, doctors, even school teachers were under law supposed to file a report in cases like this since it happened when she was still a minor in the States eyes.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 08, 2010, 03:52:35 PM

    I just can't see Lee in an incestuous relationship with Casey. I think he could barely stand her because she was so much like her Dad.  I think he hated the constant drama.  He kept to himself and got out of that house as soon as he could. 

    I can see his dislike for the whole family but I also see him as somewhat of an emotional cripple too. His reactions and facial looks do not match the circumstances many times. I go back to my original take on him which gave me the belief that he had all the markers of aspergers syndrome


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 08, 2010, 03:53:31 PM
    Sunny, Capp, and everyone ...

    What about this Hernandez the guard .. Like I said the other day in question. What else did she allow to go on between Casey and Baez. What else did she take a blind eye to .. I wonder if Baez paid her? Those were crucial times that she allowed Casey to get away with anything in jail - It was before Caylee was found and directly after Caylee was found.

    Anything is possible with Baez it seems. He I think " has something" major up his sleeve. That he doesn't care if this is the last case he tries. Or if he is disbarred. What is ace in the hole is I don't know.  Who knows what he did with the 250k? He could have thrown it into an offshore account making huge interest on it..and used his own money to fund the case. He could make any records or statements look good " from his office" as long as there was real money at the time.  He is a snake.


    deenie, those are questions I have been asking as well....I think Robyn Adams has more to tell......and I would BET her attorney (s) is trying to work a deal.....I have to go back and read some of the letters and have been putting it off as it really does give me a headache....but KC talks about someone(s) taking Robyn case via BOZO....I wish I had taken notes but I didn't........but it keeps gnawing at me....if anyone remembers please shout out!  So if BOZO is associated in any way with any attorney(s) for Robyn I can't see her talking anymore without a deal



    If this is true, then here is another connection between players in this convoluted mess.


    It's on page 258 and 516......


    not word for word, just the gist of it

    Jose came through for Robyn; Mike and Michelle agreed to take Robyn's case. Jose and Mike practied together in Miami before Jose moved to Orlando. KC is very good friends with Mike and Michelle and they are working on her case too. (and here we go again)

    And I think that is possibly how Robyn sent to her friend Casey's letters got mailed. Through them. Contraband. JMO. Birds of a feather, ya know.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 03:55:03 PM
    Sunny, Capp, and everyone ...

    What about this Hernandez the guard .. Like I said the other day in question. What else did she allow to go on between Casey and Baez. What else did she take a blind eye to .. I wonder if Baez paid her? Those were crucial times that she allowed Casey to get away with anything in jail - It was before Caylee was found and directly after Caylee was found.

    Anything is possible with Baez it seems. He I think " has something" major up his sleeve. That he doesn't care if this is the last case he tries. Or if he is disbarred. What is ace in the hole is I don't know.  Who knows what he did with the 250k? He could have thrown it into an offshore account making huge interest on it..and used his own money to fund the case. He could make any records or statements look good " from his office" as long as there was real money at the time.  He is a snake.


    deenie, those are questions I have been asking as well....I think Robyn Adams has more to tell......and I would BET her attorney (s) is trying to work a deal.....I have to go back and read some of the letters and have been putting it off as it really does give me a headache....but KC talks about someone(s) taking Robyn case via BOZO....I wish I had taken notes but I didn't........but it keeps gnawing at me....if anyone remembers please shout out!  So if BOZO is associated in any way with any attorney(s) for Robyn I can't see her talking anymore without a deal



    If this is true, then here is another connection between players in this convoluted mess.


    It's on page 258 and 516......


    not word for word, just the gist of it

    Jose came through for Robyn; Mike and Michelle agreed to take Robyn's case. Jose and Mike practied together in Miami before Jose moved to Orlando. KC is very good friends with Mike and Michelle and they are working on her case too. (and here we go again)

    thanks N2, that's exactly what I was trying to refer to..


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 08, 2010, 03:58:16 PM
    I have another question on child abuse and sexual abuse.  If she did infact go to a counselor with these claims of sexual abuse from her brother..is the counselor or clinic involved supposed to file a report?  I thought all professionals, nurses, counselors, doctors, even school teachers were under law supposed to file a report in cases like this since it happened when she was still a minor in the States eyes.

    I don't know in the state of Florida. Most states require it but if she was an adult at the time (she said she was 18) there may be something which prevents the counselor from giving out that medical/psychological information. If all that about going to a counselor is true, then you can be assured all those records have long ago been subpoenaed for court by the defense. If it is new information then the prosecution would also subpoena them.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 08, 2010, 03:58:39 PM

    I just can't see Lee in an incestuous relationship with Casey. I think he could barely stand her because she was so much like her Dad.  I think he hated the constant drama.  He kept to himself and got out of that house as soon as he could. 

    I can see his dislike for the whole family but I also see him as somewhat of an emotional cripple too. His reactions and facial looks do not match the circumstances many times. I go back to my original take on him which gave me the belief that he had all the markers of aspergers syndrome

    I remember reading your post on that and I thought it was quite good.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Deenie on April 08, 2010, 03:59:45 PM
    Loca the relationship between Cindy and Casey - Mirrors each other.

    They to me are almost carbon copies. They both have a deep seeded hate for each other. They both have deep seeded "jealously" towards each other as well. Its almost like they are sisters-or two Cheerleaders from Hell. They only cheer for themselves as they try to destroy each other/ then they have a ((hug in)) for awhile, and go back to hating each other ... 
    I don't believe for a minute that Cindy nor Casey like Men. I think they both find Men to be for one thing - Their Toys. Someone to manipulate and use and abuse. I guess it was cheaper to keep George than divorce him. Cindy would have to pay alimony since he has no job history.
    George I have not one ounce of sympathy for. His life was filled with choices. The Anthony women if they do not get what they want from Men ' Hell have no Fury' they go on their rampant rage of I will make him pay.. Tim Miller was perfect example of that with Cindy.  He didn't do what she wanted. So she tried her best to black ball him. Jesse is another example for Casey, she could not manipulate him. So he was kicked to the curb. She is still kicking him. I think Jesse knows the real Casey. Only because he was with her longer than most - Why he stayed was because of his love for Caylee. She hated him for that.
     (( Both Tim Miller and Jesse have the same thing in common - They wanted to help Caylee)) Note to all.

    I don't feel that either of them CA/KC have once of respect for anyone, themselves included. Neither one of them have any friends female or male. They bond with no one. Or its the opposite. No one wants to be their friends. That's when they go on their Bible trips. That at least we have God. Which may be the truth. But God doesn't like Ugly.
    Maybe they LE should put CA/KC in the cell together for a week - and let em have at it. It would save a lot of tax payers $ and I guarantee the truth would come out. The first few days CA would try to redecorate Casey's cell .. tell her how to wear her hair, tell her not to eat the Junk food, They would plan their escape, they would plan their new futures. Giggle at the Men who passed by in the hall thru the crack of their cell. By Friday they would be stir crazy- Casey would be frothing at the Mouth ..because Cindy would want to tell all the inmates, Yack away in the showers, and tell all the guards about How she was the only one who took care of Caylee. Because it eventually it has to turn sour between them - and they both are vile and know how to cut each other to the bone with words/actions. I am sure one of them would squawk the truth. Because they are so alike and so mirror each other - They don't realize how dysfunctional they truly are.  The truth would not come out though " For Caylee" it would come out because One of them has to survive. Cockroaches are like that.   


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 08, 2010, 04:04:18 PM
    Loca the relationship between Cindy and Casey - Mirrors each other.

    They to me are almost carbon copies. They both have a deep seeded hate for each other. They both have deep seeded "jealously" towards each other as well. Its almost like they are sisters-or two Cheerleaders from Hell. They only cheer for themselves as they try to destroy each other/ then they have a ((hug in)) for awhile, and go back to hating each other ... 
    I don't believe for a minute that Cindy nor Casey like Men. I think they both find Men to be for one thing - Their Toys. Someone to manipulate and use and abuse. I guess it was cheaper to keep George than divorce him. Cindy would have to pay alimony since he has no job history.
    George I have not one ounce of sympathy for. His life was filled with choices. The Anthony women if they do not get what they want from Men ' Hell have no Fury' they go on their rampant rage of I will make him pay.. Tim Miller was perfect example of that with Cindy.  He didn't do what she wanted. So she tried her best to black ball him. Jesse is another example for Casey, she could not manipulate him. So he was kicked to the curb. She is still kicking him. I think Jesse knows the real Casey. Only because he was with her longer than most - Why he stayed was because of his love for Caylee. She hated him for that.
     (( Both Tim Miller and Jesse have the same thing in common - They wanted to help Caylee)) Note to all.

    I don't feel that either of them CA/KC have once of respect for anyone, themselves included. Neither one of them have any friends female or male. They bond with no one. Or its the opposite. No one wants to be their friends. That's when they go on their Bible trips. That at least we have God. Which may be the truth. But God doesn't like Ugly.
    Maybe they LE should put CA/KC in the cell together for a week - and let em have at it. It would save a lot of tax payers $ and I guarantee the truth would come out. The first few days CA would try to redecorate Casey's cell .. tell her how to wear her hair, tell her not to eat the Junk food, They would plan their escape, they would plan their new futures. Giggle at the Men who passed by in the hall thru the crack of their cell. By Friday they would be stir crazy- Casey would be frothing at the Mouth ..because Cindy would want to tell all the inmates, Yack away in the showers, and tell all the guards about How she was the only one who took care of Caylee. Because it eventually it has to turn sour between them - and they both are vile and know how to cut each other to the bone with words/actions. I am sure one of them would squawk the truth. Because they are so alike and so mirror each other - They don't realize how dysfunctional they truly are.  The truth would not come out though " For Caylee" it would come out because One of them has to survive. Cockroaches are like that.   


    Wonderful Deenie and I so agree with you..they are the Devil's handmaidens.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 08, 2010, 04:06:51 PM
    Sunny, Capp, and everyone ...

    What about this Hernandez the guard .. Like I said the other day in question. What else did she allow to go on between Casey and Baez. What else did she take a blind eye to .. I wonder if Baez paid her? Those were crucial times that she allowed Casey to get away with anything in jail - It was before Caylee was found and directly after Caylee was found.

    Anything is possible with Baez it seems. He I think " has something" major up his sleeve. That he doesn't care if this is the last case he tries. Or if he is disbarred. What is ace in the hole is I don't know.  Who knows what he did with the 250k? He could have thrown it into an offshore account making huge interest on it..and used his own money to fund the case. He could make any records or statements look good " from his office" as long as there was real money at the time.  He is a snake.


    deenie, those are questions I have been asking as well....I think Robyn Adams has more to tell......and I would BET her attorney (s) is trying to work a deal.....I have to go back and read some of the letters and have been putting it off as it really does give me a headache....but KC talks about someone(s) taking Robyn case via BOZO....I wish I had taken notes but I didn't........but it keeps gnawing at me....if anyone remembers please shout out!  So if BOZO is associated in any way with any attorney(s) for Robyn I can't see her talking anymore without a deal



    If this is true, then here is another connection between players in this convoluted mess.


    It's on page 258 and 516......


    not word for word, just the gist of it

    Jose came through for Robyn; Mike and Michelle agreed to take Robyn's case. Jose and Mike practied together in Miami before Jose moved to Orlando. KC is very good friends with Mike and Michelle and they are working on her case too. (and here we go again)

    And I think that is possibly how Robyn sent to her friend Casey's letters got mailed. Through them. Contraband. JMO. Birds of a feather, ya know.

    I think that Robyn either gave them to M & M or Hernandez mailed them for her.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 04:09:07 PM
    I have another question on child abuse and sexual abuse.  If she did infact go to a counselor with these claims of sexual abuse from her brother..is the counselor or clinic involved supposed to file a report?  I thought all professionals, nurses, counselors, doctors, even school teachers were under law supposed to file a report in cases like this since it happened when she was still a minor in the States eyes.

    Well she claims she got help on her own at 18 but until she can exhibit proof of same the fact that she included that she went to seek help pins her down to not just a claim but that she has proof she sought help for it so God help her if she cant provide same...Im still going with she is lying about this too or her attorneys would be leaking it out long ago not only for the sympathy factor but to shut her family up & get the shift of blame on them - well they deserve the blame for other reasons most certainly, this is still very questionable.

    Does everyone recall the 30 page diatribe the defense sent to the prosecution to urge them to take the DP off the table?   Did we see any proof of a diagnosed medical condition or treatment at all contained in that document?  Did the defense then put forward that their client has lodged allegations that she was sexually assaulted by a family member?  NO   Does everyone recall that it was being debating as to whether she had some sort of mental disorder such as bipolar within that same defense document?    NONE, NADDA, doesnt exist.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Deenie on April 08, 2010, 04:14:53 PM
    I have another question on child abuse and sexual abuse.  If she did infact go to a counselor with these claims of sexual abuse from her brother..is the counselor or clinic involved supposed to file a report?  I thought all professionals, nurses, counselors, doctors, even school teachers were under law supposed to file a report in cases like this since it happened when she was still a minor in the States eyes.
    When this all started to unravel in the very beginning. That it was quite obvious this family was being found dysfunctional - Was it not Grandma Shirley who said Cindy was going to Counseling because of Casey's behavior ?? 
    And that the counselor told Cindy that she needed to kick Casey out - stop enabling her. I swore Grandma Shirley said something like that ....... anyone recall.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 04:16:21 PM
    I have another question on child abuse and sexual abuse.  If she did infact go to a counselor with these claims of sexual abuse from her brother..is the counselor or clinic involved supposed to file a report?  I thought all professionals, nurses, counselors, doctors, even school teachers were under law supposed to file a report in cases like this since it happened when she was still a minor in the States eyes.
    When this all started to unravel in the very beginning. That it was quite obvious this family was being found dysfunctional - Was it not Grandma Shirley who said Cindy was going to Counseling because of Casey's behavior ?? 
    And that the counselor told Cindy that she needed to kick Casey out - stop enabling her. I swore Grandma Shirley said something like that ....... anyone recall.

    ypeers...you are right on target


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 08, 2010, 04:16:26 PM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Details of Casey Anthony Friendship Surface
    04/08/10


    Good Morning Monks!  thanks trim......I questioned the scissors as well...Ms. Hernandez gave an accused murdered a pair of scissors........and opened the cell door..........she is a danger to herself and the the jail....she needs to go.  IMO
    ::MonkeyEek:: I don't even know what to say. I also wanted to say that if Casey is making this up about George and Lee and the sexual abuse, I do feel sorry for both men to have such vile accusations thrown their way, that is horrible.

    I don't think she is making it up at all. I think there is even more there than she is telling yet. She has all the behaviors of a woman who was sexually abused as a young child. The excessive need to have men's attention no matter what the personal cost to her. Maybe the teen thing with Lee was a "learned" behavior or even a mimicked behavior. Kids in a family KNOW the family secrets and one child in a family will always act out the family secret. Then we have the adulterous behaviors of CA all within this time frame.

    Take a serious look/see at what we see in GA. He like KC has a love/hate relationship with CA.  He is a womanizer, has an addictive personality and evidently from info released has had problems with alcohol, gambling, and other addictive behaviors. Sexual addictions go right along with those addictive behaviors. They also had a very CLOSED family with no friends included in their household which is always indicative of some type of family secret. How many families do you know where there are teenagers and none of their friends come to their house? Something was very wrong in that family and I am going with my first gut instinct that there was some type of sexual malfeasance.



    I have to admit, that my first impression of KC was that of a sexually abused victim and my suspicions leaned toward GA. I may have felt that way in an effort to try and understand her behavior but at this point I still don’t know what to believe…
    I want to know too much. What I need is a thorough case history and lifetime detail on all the players involved in this tragedy. I want to know what their daily lives were like. I want to see inside their heads, know their thoughts that led to their actions. I want to know why so many of the players in this case have connections to each other and why too many things seem to be so very intertwined, then maybe I will know what happened and why. I want to take the red pill and see how deep the rabbit hole goes….Except there is no red pill, only my suspicions. The most I can hope for is justice. The unanswered questions as to motive and reason will remain even after the door locks behind the murderess. This case will haunt me as do many others. I won’t know the truth of what really happened and the why of it all.  Each of us will come to our own conclusion or accept the one given. Can it be as simple as a young person wanting to get even with her mother and be free?  That’s possible. Could it be the actions of a traumatized, compartmentalized sexually abused woman? That too could be possible and so could several other scenarios. Maybe I’ll never understand or believe the explanation for this crime because it doesn’t fit it into my own perception of how the world goes round. Maybe the problem of understanding lies with me. Maybe it really is that simple and I just don’t get it because it is beyond my logic and comprehension.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 04:20:55 PM
    I have another question on child abuse and sexual abuse.  If she did infact go to a counselor with these claims of sexual abuse from her brother..is the counselor or clinic involved supposed to file a report?  I thought all professionals, nurses, counselors, doctors, even school teachers were under law supposed to file a report in cases like this since it happened when she was still a minor in the States eyes.
    When this all started to unravel in the very beginning. That it was quite obvious this family was being found dysfunctional - Was it not Grandma Shirley who said Cindy was going to Counseling because of Casey's behavior ?? 
    And that the counselor told Cindy that she needed to kick Casey out - stop enabling her. I swore Grandma Shirley said something like that ....... anyone recall.

    Yes, she did.   There was mention of both seeking legal custody of Caylee and kicking Casey to the curb if she going to continue her bad behavior, such as stealing from her family blind numerous times.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 08, 2010, 04:22:00 PM
    Sunny, Capp, and everyone ...

    What about this Hernandez the guard .. Like I said the other day in question. What else did she allow to go on between Casey and Baez. What else did she take a blind eye to .. I wonder if Baez paid her? Those were crucial times that she allowed Casey to get away with anything in jail - It was before Caylee was found and directly after Caylee was found.

    Anything is possible with Baez it seems. He I think " has something" major up his sleeve. That he doesn't care if this is the last case he tries. Or if he is disbarred. What is ace in the hole is I don't know.  Who knows what he did with the 250k? He could have thrown it into an offshore account making huge interest on it..and used his own money to fund the case. He could make any records or statements look good " from his office" as long as there was real money at the time.  He is a snake.


    deenie, those are questions I have been asking as well....I think Robyn Adams has more to tell......and I would BET her attorney (s) is trying to work a deal.....I have to go back and read some of the letters and have been putting it off as it really does give me a headache....but KC talks about someone(s) taking Robyn case via BOZO....I wish I had taken notes but I didn't........but it keeps gnawing at me....if anyone remembers please shout out!  So if BOZO is associated in any way with any attorney(s) for Robyn I can't see her talking anymore without a deal



    If this is true, then here is another connection between players in this convoluted mess.


    It's on page 258 and 516......


    not word for word, just the gist of it

    Jose came through for Robyn; Mike and Michelle agreed to take Robyn's case. Jose and Mike practied together in Miami before Jose moved to Orlando. KC is very good friends with Mike and Michelle and they are working on her case too. (and here we go again)

    thanks N2, that's exactly what I was trying to refer to..


    Hope it helps you out, all it did for me is raise more questions....as if I didn't have enough already.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 04:23:02 PM
    Loca the relationship between Cindy and Casey - Mirrors each other.

    They to me are almost carbon copies. They both have a deep seeded hate for each other. They both have deep seeded "jealously" towards each other as well. Its almost like they are sisters-or two Cheerleaders from Hell. They only cheer for themselves as they try to destroy each other/ then they have a ((hug in)) for awhile, and go back to hating each other ... 
    I don't believe for a minute that Cindy nor Casey like Men. I think they both find Men to be for one thing - Their Toys. Someone to manipulate and use and abuse. I guess it was cheaper to keep George than divorce him. Cindy would have to pay alimony since he has no job history.
    George I have not one ounce of sympathy for. His life was filled with choices. The Anthony women if they do not get what they want from Men ' Hell have no Fury' they go on their rampant rage of I will make him pay.. Tim Miller was perfect example of that with Cindy.  He didn't do what she wanted. So she tried her best to black ball him. Jesse is another example for Casey, she could not manipulate him. So he was kicked to the curb. She is still kicking him. I think Jesse knows the real Casey. Only because he was with her longer than most - Why he stayed was because of his love for Caylee. She hated him for that.
     (( Both Tim Miller and Jesse have the same thing in common - They wanted to help Caylee)) Note to all.

    I don't feel that either of them CA/KC have once of respect for anyone, themselves included. Neither one of them have any friends female or male. They bond with no one. Or its the opposite. No one wants to be their friends. That's when they go on their Bible trips. That at least we have God. Which may be the truth. But God doesn't like Ugly.
    Maybe they LE should put CA/KC in the cell together for a week - and let em have at it. It would save a lot of tax payers $ and I guarantee the truth would come out. The first few days CA would try to redecorate Casey's cell .. tell her how to wear her hair, tell her not to eat the Junk food, They would plan their escape, they would plan their new futures. Giggle at the Men who passed by in the hall thru the crack of their cell. By Friday they would be stir crazy- Casey would be frothing at the Mouth ..because Cindy would want to tell all the inmates, Yack away in the showers, and tell all the guards about How she was the only one who took care of Caylee. Because it eventually it has to turn sour between them - and they both are vile and know how to cut each other to the bone with words/actions. I am sure one of them would squawk the truth. Because they are so alike and so mirror each other - They don't realize how dysfunctional they truly are.  The truth would not come out though " For Caylee" it would come out because One of them has to survive. Cockroaches are like that.   


    Wonderful Deenie and I so agree with you..they are the Devil's handmaidens.

    Spot on and gives the phrase "the apple doesnt fall far from the tree"  truer words never spoken


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Deenie on April 08, 2010, 04:24:06 PM
    I have another question on child abuse and sexual abuse.  If she did infact go to a counselor with these claims of sexual abuse from her brother..is the counselor or clinic involved supposed to file a report?  I thought all professionals, nurses, counselors, doctors, even school teachers were under law supposed to file a report in cases like this since it happened when she was still a minor in the States eyes.
    When this all started to unravel in the very beginning. That it was quite obvious this family was being found dysfunctional - Was it not Grandma Shirley who said Cindy was going to Counseling because of Casey's behavior ?? 
    And that the counselor told Cindy that she needed to kick Casey out - stop enabling her. I swore Grandma Shirley said something like that ....... anyone recall.

    ypeers...you are right on target
    Would be nice to hear that Counselor's testimony ..wouldn't it. To hear what Cindy was stating then about her Daughter/Mother of the year. Bec I thought Sunny wasn't it so bad " at home" that Grandma Shirley said Cindy was given scripts for her nerves... if I recall. Was a mix of Casey and George that was pushing Cindy over the edge...at that time. Which I think was in March around the time of Casey's Birthday ...if my brain serves me.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 08, 2010, 04:26:02 PM
    Sunny, Capp, and everyone ...

    What about this Hernandez the guard .. Like I said the other day in question. What else did she allow to go on between Casey and Baez. What else did she take a blind eye to .. I wonder if Baez paid her? Those were crucial times that she allowed Casey to get away with anything in jail - It was before Caylee was found and directly after Caylee was found.

    Anything is possible with Baez it seems. He I think " has something" major up his sleeve. That he doesn't care if this is the last case he tries. Or if he is disbarred. What is ace in the hole is I don't know.  Who knows what he did with the 250k? He could have thrown it into an offshore account making huge interest on it..and used his own money to fund the case. He could make any records or statements look good " from his office" as long as there was real money at the time.  He is a snake.


    deenie, those are questions I have been asking as well....I think Robyn Adams has more to tell......and I would BET her attorney (s) is trying to work a deal.....I have to go back and read some of the letters and have been putting it off as it really does give me a headache....but KC talks about someone(s) taking Robyn case via BOZO....I wish I had taken notes but I didn't........but it keeps gnawing at me....if anyone remembers please shout out!  So if BOZO is associated in any way with any attorney(s) for Robyn I can't see her talking anymore without a deal



    If this is true, then here is another connection between players in this convoluted mess.


    It's on page 258 and 516......


    not word for word, just the gist of it

    Jose came through for Robyn; Mike and Michelle agreed to take Robyn's case. Jose and Mike practied together in Miami before Jose moved to Orlando. KC is very good friends with Mike and Michelle and they are working on her case too. (and here we go again)

    And I think that is possibly how Robyn sent to her friend Casey's letters got mailed. Through them. Contraband. JMO. Birds of a feather, ya know.


    Quite possible. Wonder how KC is suppossedly such good friends with Mike and Michelle...anybody remember seeing any jailhouse visits with them or their names coming up before this as being a part of her case?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 04:31:38 PM
    Sunny, Capp, and everyone ...

    What about this Hernandez the guard .. Like I said the other day in question. What else did she allow to go on between Casey and Baez. What else did she take a blind eye to .. I wonder if Baez paid her? Those were crucial times that she allowed Casey to get away with anything in jail - It was before Caylee was found and directly after Caylee was found.

    Anything is possible with Baez it seems. He I think " has something" major up his sleeve. That he doesn't care if this is the last case he tries. Or if he is disbarred. What is ace in the hole is I don't know.  Who knows what he did with the 250k? He could have thrown it into an offshore account making huge interest on it..and used his own money to fund the case. He could make any records or statements look good " from his office" as long as there was real money at the time.  He is a snake.


    deenie, those are questions I have been asking as well....I think Robyn Adams has more to tell......and I would BET her attorney (s) is trying to work a deal.....I have to go back and read some of the letters and have been putting it off as it really does give me a headache....but KC talks about someone(s) taking Robyn case via BOZO....I wish I had taken notes but I didn't........but it keeps gnawing at me....if anyone remembers please shout out!  So if BOZO is associated in any way with any attorney(s) for Robyn I can't see her talking anymore without a deal



    If this is true, then here is another connection between players in this convoluted mess.


    It's on page 258 and 516......


    not word for word, just the gist of it

    Jose came through for Robyn; Mike and Michelle agreed to take Robyn's case. Jose and Mike practied together in Miami before Jose moved to Orlando. KC is very good friends with Mike and Michelle and they are working on her case too. (and here we go again)

    thanks N2, that's exactly what I was trying to refer to..


    Hope it helps you out, all it did for me is raise more questions....as if I didn't have enough already.

    It tells me that Bozo thought it a good idea for Casey to ramble like a lunatic & make accusations about others o and yea let's not forget make sure you get in there that you loved your daughter for good measure.   BUT Bozo and Casey got burnt because what they didnt expect was Robyn being anyone other than someone that would support Casey  & be a vehicle for their purpose, not one that would tell LE what she did.   This needs to get nipped in the bud by compelling Mike & Michelle to sworn statements.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 08, 2010, 04:33:27 PM
    http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23085002/detail.html
    Details Of Anthony Jail Friendship Surface
    Inmate Alleges Anthony Briefly Given Pair Of Scissors

    POSTED: Wednesday, April 7, 2010
    UPDATED: 7:56 am EDT April 8, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. -- Was Casey Anthony allowed to spend the night with another inmate? And was she given a pair of scissors behind bars?

    New information is surfacing in court documents about a friendship between a female inmate and Anthony, the woman accused of killing her own daughter.
    Using a hand-drawn map of the Orange County Jail's women's dorm, inmate Robyn Adams showed investigators where she was housed -- in cell 19 upstairs. She said Casey Anthony was locked up downstairs in cell 12.

    At first, the two women would communicate with each other with flashed hand signals across a room, Adams said.

    But when corrections officers caught on, Adams was moved to a different cell so the two inmates could no longer see each other, Adams said.

    That's when Anthony first started writing letters, which she would stuff between the pages of a book titled, "Let's Do Away With August," Adams said.

    Nearly every morning, Anthony would leave that book on a cart in the dorm's common area and Adams would pick it up at night, Adams said.

    When Anthony returned to jail in September 2008, she was locked up in cell 22. According to Adams, that is where the two women began meeting face to face whenever Adams was allowed to watch TV by herself in the common area. Adams said corrections officer Silvia Hernandez allowed the two women to talk through the slit in Anthony's cell door, which is against jail rules.

    "We would talk to each other through the bean hole. We would talk for hours," Adams told investigators.
    On occasion, Hernandez would allegedly open the cell door so Anthony and Adams could see each other, Adams claimed. And once, the corrections officer actually allowed her inside Anthony's cell, which is an allegation Hernandez denies, Adams said.

    Hernandez said that on one occasion she let Anthony cut Adams' hair.

    "Robyn wanted her bangs cut," Hernandez told investigators.

    "I took Robyn to the door of Casey Anthony and I gave her the scissors and said, 'Go ahead and cut the bang right there at the door,'" Hernandez said.

    Hernandez admits she knew Anthony and Adams were improperly passing letters. The corrections officer did not facilitate the communication, but she said she did not stop it either.

    Meanwhile, new allegations are surfacing that Anthony attorney Jose Baez also broke jail rules by secretly passing messages to his client.

    In her letters, Casey Anthony wrote, "My attorney is keeping tabs on my family for me, and exchanging letters between us."

    In another letter, Anthony claims her attorney is trying to "smuggle" in some word search puzzles.

    Baez has declined comment since the letters were released. A Chicago-based legal team for Anthony on Tuesday released a statement that said in part, "The letters released today reflect the natural desire for companionship when isolated for 23 hours a day, and clearly demonstrate Casey's unconditional love for her daughter Caylee. Despite these intentions, it is obvious in the letters authored by Robyn Adams that her sole purpose and only goal in corresponding with Casey Anthony was to create 'leverage to get out of prison early.' "
    Outside the attorney's entrance at the jail, a sign clearly states that "Attorneys are not authorized to convey to an inmate any written communication of a personal nature."
    Ooh, Baez, BUSTED!  I hope finally someone involved in this case gets busted for breaking the law.  And by the way, Casey doesn't sound like she's being punished unduly.  Watching her soaps, reading, whining about the food, visits from her "boys".  Gee, she's bored, boo hoo.  It doesn't sound harsh enough for someone who murdered her daughter. (I know, she's not been convicted yet.  But she was convicted of stealing from Amy, so shouldn't she be doing some form of hard time?  Baah.

    Now we understand why Baez is fighting to have the court say that he and his client can't be taped.



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: darla on April 08, 2010, 04:33:50 PM
    Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

    I just called my daughter who is a nurse and asked about the abuse situation and she said yes you can lose your license for not reporting abuse of any kind.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: darla on April 08, 2010, 04:35:49 PM
    Loca, I just about fell out of my chair about your post of Casey getting pregnant....It would be hilarious since the other inmate was a female.hehe


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Deenie on April 08, 2010, 04:36:09 PM
    This Video is not the best,but it does have the snips of Tracey's interview ( Lenny's employee)
    The words are key .. its short, the video.

    Lots of swearing so if your at work - Its Tracey repeating Casey's words. It all matches her/KC behavior expressed in her letters.

    http://www.youtube.com/v/B9Pp8s9nxAg&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 08, 2010, 04:37:26 PM
    Sunny, Capp, and everyone ...

    What about this Hernandez the guard .. Like I said the other day in question. What else did she allow to go on between Casey and Baez. What else did she take a blind eye to .. I wonder if Baez paid her? Those were crucial times that she allowed Casey to get away with anything in jail - It was before Caylee was found and directly after Caylee was found.

    Anything is possible with Baez it seems. He I think " has something" major up his sleeve. That he doesn't care if this is the last case he tries. Or if he is disbarred. What is ace in the hole is I don't know.  Who knows what he did with the 250k? He could have thrown it into an offshore account making huge interest on it..and used his own money to fund the case. He could make any records or statements look good " from his office" as long as there was real money at the time.  He is a snake.


    deenie, those are questions I have been asking as well....I think Robyn Adams has more to tell......and I would BET her attorney (s) is trying to work a deal.....I have to go back and read some of the letters and have been putting it off as it really does give me a headache....but KC talks about someone(s) taking Robyn case via BOZO....I wish I had taken notes but I didn't........but it keeps gnawing at me....if anyone remembers please shout out!  So if BOZO is associated in any way with any attorney(s) for Robyn I can't see her talking anymore without a deal



    If this is true, then here is another connection between players in this convoluted mess.


    It's on page 258 and 516......


    not word for word, just the gist of it

    Jose came through for Robyn; Mike and Michelle agreed to take Robyn's case. Jose and Mike practied together in Miami before Jose moved to Orlando. KC is very good friends with Mike and Michelle and they are working on her case too. (and here we go again)

    thanks N2, that's exactly what I was trying to refer to..


    Hope it helps you out, all it did for me is raise more questions....as if I didn't have enough already.

    It tells me that Bozo thought it a good idea for Casey to ramble like a lunatic & make accusations about others o and yea let's not forget make sure you get in there that you loved your daughter for good measure.   BUT Bozo and Casey got burnt because what they didnt expect was Robyn being anyone other than someone that would support Casey  & be a vehicle for their purpose, not one that would tell LE what she did.   This needs to get nipped in the bud by compelling Mike & Michelle to sworn statements.



    And here we go again, M & M working on both KC's and Robyn's cases. Shades of DC......


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 04:38:08 PM
    I have another question on child abuse and sexual abuse.  If she did infact go to a counselor with these claims of sexual abuse from her brother..is the counselor or clinic involved supposed to file a report?  I thought all professionals, nurses, counselors, doctors, even school teachers were under law supposed to file a report in cases like this since it happened when she was still a minor in the States eyes.
    When this all started to unravel in the very beginning. That it was quite obvious this family was being found dysfunctional - Was it not Grandma Shirley who said Cindy was going to Counseling because of Casey's behavior ?? 
    And that the counselor told Cindy that she needed to kick Casey out - stop enabling her. I swore Grandma Shirley said something like that ....... anyone recall.

    Rick Plesea  Page 8
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5470183/Casey-Anthony-Rick-Plesea-Interview-%28Uncle%29/


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 04:39:03 PM
    Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

    I just called my daughter who is a nurse and asked about the abuse situation and she said yes you can lose your license for not reporting abuse of any kind.
    Thanks Darla, that is what my daughter said also. I even wonder if Cindy is concerned about losing her license?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 04:42:20 PM
    I am trying to find the visitation logs..no luck yet


    but thought I would post Shirley's emails

    http://www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_transcript_S_PleseaEmails.htm


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 04:46:50 PM
    I am trying to find the visitation logs..no luck yet


    but thought I would post Shirley's emails

    http://www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_transcript_S_PleseaEmails.htm
    Thanks, I noticed someone on Insessions wanted Rick's email, I can only hope she emails him and he answers about the abuse. But I'm sure he wants to stay clear of any of this.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 04:52:40 PM
    Sunny,I found these visitation logs.They are older.
    10/15/08-1/26/09
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3918071/Casey-Anthony-jail-visitation-log-1262009
    11/26/2008
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2777790/Casey-Anthony-Attorney-Visit-Log


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 04:54:47 PM
    Sunny,I found these visitation logs.They are older.
    10/15/08-1/26/09
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3918071/Casey-Anthony-jail-visitation-log-1262009
    11/26/2008
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2777790/Casey-Anthony-Attorney-Visit-Log

    Here is a newer on....
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/7.jpg


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 04:59:39 PM
    Sunny,I found these visitation logs.They are older.
    10/15/08-1/26/09
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3918071/Casey-Anthony-jail-visitation-log-1262009
    11/26/2008
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2777790/Casey-Anthony-Attorney-Visit-Log

    thanks,......I found these from 7/17/08 - 8/6/06

    http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0807/17122148.pdf


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 05:00:40 PM
    N2WISHN I know what you mean, I need to rip apart everything and try to figure out what makes Casey tick and what makes the family tick. I'm desperately trying to figure why one would do what George and Cindy did and literally destroy their reputations by their nonsensical antics. I could sit here forever and it wouldn't make any sense. Wouldn't it be something if at the next court appearance they abandon Casey and sit on the State's side? I doubt it, but who knows what these people will do next?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 05:01:11 PM
    Sunny,I found these visitation logs.They are older.
    10/15/08-1/26/09
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3918071/Casey-Anthony-jail-visitation-log-1262009
    11/26/2008
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2777790/Casey-Anthony-Attorney-Visit-Log

    thanks,......I found these from 7/17/08 - 8/6/06

    http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0807/17122148.pdf

    meant to say there is a Michael Walsh, attorney on this one


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 05:07:27 PM
    visitation log 1/18/09 - 1/24/10

    http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/?action=view&current=KCjailvisitorsSept182009toJan242010.jpg&currenttag=jail+visitor+log


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 05:09:05 PM
    visitation log 1/18/09 - 1/24/10

    http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/?action=view&current=KCjailvisitorsSept182009toJan242010.jpg&currenttag=jail+visitor+log
    Jose Garcia better be careful I think that is the one she has the hots for  ::MonkeyTongue::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 05:11:53 PM
    I have another question on child abuse and sexual abuse.  If she did infact go to a counselor with these claims of sexual abuse from her brother..is the counselor or clinic involved supposed to file a report?  I thought all professionals, nurses, counselors, doctors, even school teachers were under law supposed to file a report in cases like this since it happened when she was still a minor in the States eyes.
    When this all started to unravel in the very beginning. That it was quite obvious this family was being found dysfunctional - Was it not Grandma Shirley who said Cindy was going to Counseling because of Casey's behavior ?? 
    And that the counselor told Cindy that she needed to kick Casey out - stop enabling her. I swore Grandma Shirley said something like that ....... anyone recall.

    Rick Plesea  Page 8
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5470183/Casey-Anthony-Rick-Plesea-Interview-%28Uncle%29/

    Holy snickees, I didnt pull this together until rereading it....JOE JORDAN FROM FOXNEWS that is where Rick was told by JJ or thought JJ was from!   Wow


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 05:11:58 PM
    visitation log 1/18/09 - 1/24/10
      9/09 - 1/10     sorry!!  wrong dates
    http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/?action=view&current=KCjailvisitorsSept182009toJan242010.jpg&currenttag=jail+visitor+log


    visitation log 1/18/09 - 1/24/10
      9/09 - 1/10     sorry!!  wrong dates


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 08, 2010, 05:12:00 PM
    N2WISHN I know what you mean, I need to rip apart everything and try to figure out what makes Casey tick and what makes the family tick. I'm desperately trying to figure why one would do what George and Cindy did and literally destroy their reputations by their nonsensical antics. I could sit here forever and it wouldn't make any sense. Wouldn't it be something if at the next court appearance they abandon Casey and sit on the State's side? I doubt it, but who knows what these people will do next?



    It's a curse isn't it. I need so much information to form a real opinion because I'm too much of a perfectionist in that one respect. I hate to be wrong! I truly realized it when I sat on a jury trial last week. Talk about soul searching and wanting more information that just wasn't there. I finally had to go with what we had and low and behold come the penalty phase more witnesses were able to add very helpful info and I felt good about my guilty vote.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 08, 2010, 05:17:26 PM
    Sunny,I found these visitation logs.They are older.
    10/15/08-1/26/09
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3918071/Casey-Anthony-jail-visitation-log-1262009
    11/26/2008
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2777790/Casey-Anthony-Attorney-Visit-Log

    thanks,......I found these from 7/17/08 - 8/6/06

    http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0807/17122148.pdf

    meant to say there is a Michael Walsh, attorney on this one



    I saw 2 visits from Michael Walsh on 7/29 and 11/5. In her letter, KC says she wants to have her trial in Miami cause the jury would be better and the Walsh's live there. Oh, and of course the SUN AND SAND. She thinks she's going to the beach, lol.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 05:20:54 PM
    N2WISHN I know what you mean, I need to rip apart everything and try to figure out what makes Casey tick and what makes the family tick. I'm desperately trying to figure why one would do what George and Cindy did and literally destroy their reputations by their nonsensical antics. I could sit here forever and it wouldn't make any sense. Wouldn't it be something if at the next court appearance they abandon Casey and sit on the State's side? I doubt it, but who knows what these people will do next?



    It's a curse isn't it. I need so much information to form a real opinion because I'm too much of a perfectionist in that one respect. I hate to be wrong! I truly realized it when I sat on a jury trial last week. Talk about soul searching and wanting more information that just wasn't there. I finally had to go with what we had and low and behold come the penalty phase more witnesses were able to add very helpful info and I felt good about my guilty vote.
    That's good, I hope that I never get on a jury, a good one I would not make. I swear the more info and doc dumps we get the more I get confused by the family. And the worst part is we may never know really what all happened.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 05:22:04 PM
    Sunny,I found these visitation logs.They are older.
    10/15/08-1/26/09
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3918071/Casey-Anthony-jail-visitation-log-1262009
    11/26/2008
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2777790/Casey-Anthony-Attorney-Visit-Log

    thanks,......I found these from 7/17/08 - 8/6/06

    http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0807/17122148.pdf

    meant to say there is a Michael Walsh, attorney on this one



    I saw 2 visits from Michael Walsh on 7/29 and 11/5. In her letter, KC says she wants to have her trial in Miami cause the jury would be better and the Walsh's live there. Oh, and of course the SUN AND SAND. She thinks she's going to the beach, lol.
    ::MonkeyEek::Maybe she can use the Snoopy snow cone machine at the beach that she was talking about  ::MonkeyTongue::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 05:25:03 PM
    N2WISHN I know what you mean, I need to rip apart everything and try to figure out what makes Casey tick and what makes the family tick. I'm desperately trying to figure why one would do what George and Cindy did and literally destroy their reputations by their nonsensical antics. I could sit here forever and it wouldn't make any sense. Wouldn't it be something if at the next court appearance they abandon Casey and sit on the State's side? I doubt it, but who knows what these people will do next?

    I have become so cynical I would wonder what in the hell they were up too!! ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 05:26:19 PM
    visitation log 1/18/09 - 1/24/10

    http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/?action=view&current=KCjailvisitorsSept182009toJan242010.jpg&currenttag=jail+visitor+log
    Jose Garcia better be careful I think that is the one she has the hots for  ::MonkeyTongue::

     ::MonkeyJnBox::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 05:26:29 PM
    visitation log 1/18/09 - 1/24/10

    http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/?action=view&current=KCjailvisitorsSept182009toJan242010.jpg&currenttag=jail+visitor+log
    Jose Garcia better be careful I think that is the one she has the hots for  ::MonkeyTongue::

    yeah....even though he's 40!  LOL


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 05:26:57 PM
    N2WISHN I know what you mean, I need to rip apart everything and try to figure out what makes Casey tick and what makes the family tick. I'm desperately trying to figure why one would do what George and Cindy did and literally destroy their reputations by their nonsensical antics. I could sit here forever and it wouldn't make any sense. Wouldn't it be something if at the next court appearance they abandon Casey and sit on the State's side? I doubt it, but who knows what these people will do next?

    I have become so cynical I would wonder what in the hell they were up too!! ::MonkeyNoNo::
    I have become so cynical also, it scares me  ::MonkeyNoNo:: But after all this about the abuse, and the Anthonys say no, how can they possibly sit behind Casey? I'm sure they will, but it makes no sense at all. Of course they never have made any sense.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 05:27:37 PM
    But Casey likes Jose Garcia's dimples  ::MonkeyWink::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 05:27:38 PM
    This Video is not the best,but it does have the snips of Tracey's interview ( Lenny's employee)
    The words are key .. its short, the video.

    Lots of swearing so if your at work - Its Tracey repeating Casey's words. It all matches her/KC behavior expressed in her letters.

    http://www.youtube.com/v/B9Pp8s9nxAg&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0

    thanks Deenie......Tracy is another one who IMO knows a hell of a lot more than she has told...that we are aware of


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 05:29:36 PM
    Sunny,I found these visitation logs.They are older.
    10/15/08-1/26/09
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3918071/Casey-Anthony-jail-visitation-log-1262009
    11/26/2008
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2777790/Casey-Anthony-Attorney-Visit-Log

    thanks ::MonkeyKiss::

    When we come back this evening I am going to print them


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 08, 2010, 05:30:34 PM
    If you have any concerns regarding anything in Ms. Hernandez statement, as I do....here is who you can voice your concerns to:

    Major Johnson
    PO BOX 4970
    Orlando FL 32802-4970

    Administration Receptionist: 407-836-3560

    I called the above to find out who I could speak to regarding concerns.....the receptionist was very haughty in the beginning. She questioned why I would have any concerns over what Ms. Anthony may say as it is well known she is a habitual liar. I told her if it was just from Casey, I wouldn't be concerned. However since the scissors info came directly from Ms. Hernandez I feel it is my right and duty to express my concern. 

    I wanted an email address and will keep trying to get one....but this is a start.  I also want to voice my concern that the letters got out of the jail system, and that the attorney, BOZO, was carrying letters back and forth........I am damn tired of this azzhole getting free passes.....

     ::MonkeyShocked::  The part I bolded above.. the receptionist said that??   ::MonkeyShocked:: 

    Even tho we know that info is true, lol, it was way out of line and totally unprofessional for her to have made such a comment about an inmate, IMO.  But that's just me.  Thanks for sharing that addy! 
     

    yeppers, she did!!   I don't think she even realized it!  LOL

    Sunny....you go, girl!!!
    I bet it was a slip (don't you just love it!)   ::MonkeyTongue::



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 05:31:38 PM
    Sunny,I found these visitation logs.They are older.
    10/15/08-1/26/09
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3918071/Casey-Anthony-jail-visitation-log-1262009
    11/26/2008
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2777790/Casey-Anthony-Attorney-Visit-Log

    thanks,......I found these from 7/17/08 - 8/6/06

    http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0807/17122148.pdf

    meant to say there is a Michael Walsh, attorney on this one



    I saw 2 visits from Michael Walsh on 7/29 and 11/5. In her letter, KC says she wants to have her trial in Miami cause the jury would be better and the Walsh's live there. Oh, and of course the SUN AND SAND. She thinks she's going to the beach, lol.

    I read that..LOL..I tell ya she is one of those that talks and lies so much she believes the sound of her voice


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 08, 2010, 05:32:08 PM
    Sunny,I found these visitation logs.They are older.
    10/15/08-1/26/09
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3918071/Casey-Anthony-jail-visitation-log-1262009
    11/26/2008
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2777790/Casey-Anthony-Attorney-Visit-Log

    thanks,......I found these from 7/17/08 - 8/6/06

    http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0807/17122148.pdf

    meant to say there is a Michael Walsh, attorney on this one



    I saw 2 visits from Michael Walsh on 7/29 and 11/5. In her letter, KC says she wants to have her trial in Miami cause the jury would be better and the Walsh's live there. Oh, and of course the SUN AND SAND. She thinks she's going to the beach, lol.
    ::MonkeyEek::Maybe she can use the Snoopy snow cone machine at the beach that she was talking about  ::MonkeyTongue::
    OMG LMAO!!!   ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 08, 2010, 05:34:07 PM
    N2WISHN I know what you mean, I need to rip apart everything and try to figure out what makes Casey tick and what makes the family tick. I'm desperately trying to figure why one would do what George and Cindy did and literally destroy their reputations by their nonsensical antics. I could sit here forever and it wouldn't make any sense. Wouldn't it be something if at the next court appearance they abandon Casey and sit on the State's side? I doubt it, but who knows what these people will do next?

    I have become so cynical I would wonder what in the hell they were up too!! ::MonkeyNoNo::



    I can relate to that!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 05:35:22 PM
    If you have any concerns regarding anything in Ms. Hernandez statement, as I do....here is who you can voice your concerns to:

    Major Johnson
    PO BOX 4970
    Orlando FL 32802-4970

    Administration Receptionist: 407-836-3560

    I called the above to find out who I could speak to regarding concerns.....the receptionist was very haughty in the beginning. She questioned why I would have any concerns over what Ms. Anthony may say as it is well known she is a habitual liar. I told her if it was just from Casey, I wouldn't be concerned. However since the scissors info came directly from Ms. Hernandez I feel it is my right and duty to express my concern. 

    I wanted an email address and will keep trying to get one....but this is a start.  I also want to voice my concern that the letters got out of the jail system, and that the attorney, BOZO, was carrying letters back and forth........I am damn tired of this azzhole getting free passes.....

     ::MonkeyShocked::  The part I bolded above.. the receptionist said that??   ::MonkeyShocked:: 

    Even tho we know that info is true, lol, it was way out of line and totally unprofessional for her to have made such a comment about an inmate, IMO.  But that's just me.  Thanks for sharing that addy! 
     

    yeppers, she did!!   I don't think she even realized it!  LOL

    Sunny....you go, girl!!!
    I bet it was a slip (don't you just love it!)   ::MonkeyTongue::

    Hey Puzzler!! ::MonkeyCheer4::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 05:36:11 PM
    Sunny,I found these visitation logs.They are older.
    10/15/08-1/26/09
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3918071/Casey-Anthony-jail-visitation-log-1262009
    11/26/2008
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2777790/Casey-Anthony-Attorney-Visit-Log

    thanks,......I found these from 7/17/08 - 8/6/06

    http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0807/17122148.pdf

    meant to say there is a Michael Walsh, attorney on this one



    I saw 2 visits from Michael Walsh on 7/29 and 11/5. In her letter, KC says she wants to have her trial in Miami cause the jury would be better and the Walsh's live there. Oh, and of course the SUN AND SAND. She thinks she's going to the beach, lol.

    There is a Michael Walsh, Esq in Orlando  BUT  one in Miami I found here:

    http://www.uniteddefensegroup.com/our_attorneys.htm

       Michael Walsh, Esq.
    Senior Attorney of Counsel
    Michael Walsh has spent his entire career in the criminal justice field, where he has tried over 150 criminal jury trials as well as hundreds of criminal trials before judges. He has defended clients in a wide range of cases involving matters ranging from simple DUI's to homicides and narcotics trafficking.

    Mr. Walsh has practiced at all levels of Florida state court and federal court. He has even argued in the U.S. Supreme Court. He was recently named one of "Florida's Top Lawyers" by the South Florida Legal Guide, and he has been frequently featured in the local news media due to the high profile cases he has taken.

    Prior to working as a criminal defense attorney, Mr. Walsh distinguished himself as a fraud investigator where he exposed millions of dollars worth of fraud. As an investigator and prosecutor, he worked in numerous drug trafficking and homicide cases.

    And then this:
    http://lawyers.justia.com/lawyer/michelle-rodriguez-walsh-530003

    Not sure if this could be them


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 08, 2010, 05:37:57 PM
    If Casey mentioned to the chaplin about being molested, is he able to come forth with this info, or is it like a priest in a confessional?

    I haven't a clue.............

    something that has really been bothering me about the letters is KC referring to God as Daddy not Father......but Daddy.....she did it numerous times.....and each time I thought she said it almost as a mockery.
    I have never heard anyone ever refer to God like that before  ::MonkeyEek:: She could have been mocking God, I couldn't tell.
    I've never heard that personally, either.  The real sense of mockery for me was that her sneezes were confirmation that she was right about something.  I think she wants to appear crazy.  Good thing she won't have to work too hard at it.

    It's disrespectful...but...then...KC doesn't respect anything!



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 05:38:26 PM
    http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2010/04/08/casey.anthony.profiler.insession?iref=24hours
    Were Casey Anthony's recently leaked jailhouse letters a 'set-up' for a jury? Profiler Pat Brown thinks so.

    video at link.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 08, 2010, 05:46:30 PM
    I have another question on child abuse and sexual abuse.  If she did infact go to a counselor with these claims of sexual abuse from her brother..is the counselor or clinic involved supposed to file a report?  I thought all professionals, nurses, counselors, doctors, even school teachers were under law supposed to file a report in cases like this since it happened when she was still a minor in the States eyes.
    When this all started to unravel in the very beginning. That it was quite obvious this family was being found dysfunctional - Was it not Grandma Shirley who said Cindy was going to Counseling because of Casey's behavior ?? 
    And that the counselor told Cindy that she needed to kick Casey out - stop enabling her. I swore Grandma Shirley said something like that ....... anyone recall.

    Yes, I do and that is where I read where UCF had counseling based on income and when I thought CA might have been going there as there was a connection to a name there and her. Then the info came out about the woman who had her computer stolen and it was interesting to me that her name was same as the alleged kidnapper. When I researched closer, I found that she was the PI director for UCF and had done the counseling schedules for the girl who was killed in Blanchard Park June 9th when jogging. (the one whose "blackjack" has never turned up but whose charger was by her car)  I immediately started trying to connect KC and her friend in jail in Jacksonville with that stolen computer. I never could get a good connection, but the chloroform & the knife was the thing which interested me too.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 05:47:03 PM
    http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2010/04/08/casey.anthony.profiler.insession?iref=24hours
    Were Casey Anthony's recently leaked jailhouse letters a 'set-up' for a jury? Profiler Pat Brown thinks so.

    video at link.
    Thanks  ::MonkeyWink::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 08, 2010, 05:49:06 PM
    The Anthonys have officially called Casey a liar with the sex abuse accusations, do they also call her a liar with everything else she has said, or will they stick behind her with the other lies?

    Interesting to me is she was also hanging Cindy in all this, by saying she told her mom.  Cindy being a nurse would have to report that info or lose her nursing license.  She did the same thing again when she told the other inmate she got the chloroform from Cindy..who got it from work.  Both situations put Cindy's nursing license in jeopardy.

    I still don't believe the sex abuse, nor do I believe Cindy provided the chloroform.  Why look up how to make chloroform if Mommy is bringing it home.  Secondly..Cindy worked in an office environment and would have no access to chloroform.

    I really wish the family would burn her butt over these accusations rather then sit idly by.

    Chloroform...was banned in 1970...doctors have said on TV that they can't even get it in hospitals...therefore, clinics (like where Cindy worked) certainly wouldn't be able to get it.



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 08, 2010, 05:52:09 PM
    N2WISHN I know what you mean, I need to rip apart everything and try to figure out what makes Casey tick and what makes the family tick. I'm desperately trying to figure why one would do what George and Cindy did and literally destroy their reputations by their nonsensical antics. I could sit here forever and it wouldn't make any sense. Wouldn't it be something if at the next court appearance they abandon Casey and sit on the State's side? I doubt it, but who knows what these people will do next?

    I have become so cynical I would wonder what in the hell they were up too!! ::MonkeyNoNo::
    I have become so cynical also, it scares me  ::MonkeyNoNo:: But after all this about the abuse, and the Anthonys say no, how can they possibly sit behind Casey? I'm sure they will, but it makes no sense at all. Of course they never have made any sense.



    It makes sense to me. They are in this thing so deep that it is past GA's bushy black eyebrows. They can't stop until they get stopped. They're in so deep that they have to stay together all the while hating each other, lol.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 08, 2010, 05:52:54 PM
    The Anthonys have officially called Casey a liar with the sex abuse accusations, do they also call her a liar with everything else she has said, or will they stick behind her with the other lies?

    Interesting to me is she was also hanging Cindy in all this, by saying she told her mom.  Cindy being a nurse would have to report that info or lose her nursing license.  She did the same thing again when she told the other inmate she got the chloroform from Cindy..who got it from work.  Both situations put Cindy's nursing license in jeopardy.

    I still don't believe the sex abuse, nor do I believe Cindy provided the chloroform.  Why look up how to make chloroform if Mommy is bringing it home.  Secondly..Cindy worked in an office environment and would have no access to chloroform.

    I really wish the family would burn her butt over these accusations rather then sit idly by.

    IIRC the searches for the chloroform was not done until AFTER Caylee was missing and already dead which made me wonder if someone did give her the chloroform and was trying to find a way to buy it online to cover that up.

    I thought the neck-breaking and how to make chloroform searches were done in March, before Caylee was murdered.

    Finally found it in my files. After I re-read the psychic reports! Man, some of those are so close to right! Anyway, here is the LE info on the chloroform searches:

    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image10-1.png)


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 08, 2010, 05:53:56 PM

    I hope he gets his Bae-Azz handed to him on an aluminum platter.  (Silver is too good for him!)
    Do you really think he will get spanked?  It seems to me that he always gets away with EVERYTHING!  I guess I'm really bothered by the unfairness.

    Bozo has finally ticked me off enough to do something about it. I wrote the Govenor of the FLABAR and asked her what could be done about him, who has to file complaints, etc. I am amazed at how restrained I was..heck, I even remembered to call him Baez instead of Bozo!!

    YES !!!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 08, 2010, 05:55:37 PM

    I hope he gets his Bae-Azz handed to him on an aluminum platter.  (Silver is too good for him!)
    Do you really think he will get spanked?  It seems to me that he always gets away with EVERYTHING!  I guess I'm really bothered by the unfairness.

    Bozo has finally ticked me off enough to do something about it. I wrote the Govenor of the FLABAR and asked her what could be done about him, who has to file complaints, etc. I am amazed at how restrained I was..heck, I even remembered to call him Baez instead of Bozo!!

    GO Tevye!  Let me know what I can do to help!!

    Didn't we learn (correct me if I'm wrong) that a regular citizen can make a bar complaint?  If so, wouldn't several complaints from citizens cause the issue to be looked into?



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 05:58:39 PM
    The Anthonys have officially called Casey a liar with the sex abuse accusations, do they also call her a liar with everything else she has said, or will they stick behind her with the other lies?

    Interesting to me is she was also hanging Cindy in all this, by saying she told her mom.  Cindy being a nurse would have to report that info or lose her nursing license.  She did the same thing again when she told the other inmate she got the chloroform from Cindy..who got it from work.  Both situations put Cindy's nursing license in jeopardy.

    I still don't believe the sex abuse, nor do I believe Cindy provided the chloroform.  Why look up how to make chloroform if Mommy is bringing it home.  Secondly..Cindy worked in an office environment and would have no access to chloroform.

    I really wish the family would burn her butt over these accusations rather then sit idly by.

    G DD, I so agree with you........KC doesn't care who she burns...and she knows she will get away with it...they have never held her responsible for her actions and there is no reason for her to think they will start now.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 08, 2010, 05:58:49 PM
    The Anthonys have officially called Casey a liar with the sex abuse accusations, do they also call her a liar with everything else she has said, or will they stick behind her with the other lies?

    Interesting to me is she was also hanging Cindy in all this, by saying she told her mom.  Cindy being a nurse would have to report that info or lose her nursing license.  She did the same thing again when she told the other inmate she got the chloroform from Cindy..who got it from work.  Both situations put Cindy's nursing license in jeopardy.

    I still don't believe the sex abuse, nor do I believe Cindy provided the chloroform.  Why look up how to make chloroform if Mommy is bringing it home.  Secondly..Cindy worked in an office environment and would have no access to chloroform.

    I really wish the family would burn her butt over these accusations rather then sit idly by.

    Not only that but no Hospital Nurse or employee would have access to Chloroform either. Casey is in way over her head when she makes stupid accusations like this- Chloroform has been out of medical use for several decades.
    She also says she is 'milking her disability'-  yes we can all see that, but how about telling the world that your Mother is doing it!

    Good point...the world knowing would certainly make Cindy even madder at KC.

    The irony is that Cindy throttled KC (could have killed her in a moment of passion); and she got pay-back from her own daughter killing her granddaughter!  HOW does Cindy live with that...wait...maybe she compartmentalizes like KC does...and, of course, Cindy is not at fault.



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 06:00:07 PM
    http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2010/04/08/casey.anthony.profiler.insession?iref=24hours
    Were Casey Anthony's recently leaked jailhouse letters a 'set-up' for a jury? Profiler Pat Brown thinks so.

    video at link.
    Thanks  ::MonkeyWink::

    Well that firms up that thought!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 08, 2010, 06:02:12 PM
    Some one posted in the last few days. Was it here? I don't know. I read it online.
    Maybe Hinky. But they made a very good observation.

    Casey sitting in court. Sitting at the table. Writing on her tablet. As Jose or others were speaking to the Judge. The cameras panned back and forth. So I don't believe this was actually seen. A person's observation of what possibly could have taken place..

    Casey was writing to GA/CA  - this is how Bobo got the letters out to the Ants from Casey. That the tablet would be scooped up by Baez at the end of the session- thrown in his briefcase. And after the fact - he would then give the letters to CA/GA.. Makes sense to me. Why not let it happen right before everyone's eyes. Doesn't seem so sneaky does it.

     


    Boy-oh-boy...wouldn't you love to see those letters...wonder how many lies have been passed back and forth?  My bad...



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 08, 2010, 06:03:33 PM
    The Anthonys have officially called Casey a liar with the sex abuse accusations, do they also call her a liar with everything else she has said, or will they stick behind her with the other lies?

    Interesting to me is she was also hanging Cindy in all this, by saying she told her mom.  Cindy being a nurse would have to report that info or lose her nursing license.  She did the same thing again when she told the other inmate she got the chloroform from Cindy..who got it from work.  Both situations put Cindy's nursing license in jeopardy.

    I still don't believe the sex abuse, nor do I believe Cindy provided the chloroform.  Why look up how to make chloroform if Mommy is bringing it home.  Secondly..Cindy worked in an office environment and would have no access to chloroform.

    I really wish the family would burn her butt over these accusations rather then sit idly by.

    Chloroform...was banned in 1970...doctors have said on TV that they can't even get it in hospitals...therefore, clinics (like where Cindy worked) certainly wouldn't be able to get it.



    I am not sure about that. Sometimes clinics can get things like that from their suppliers to clean lab glassware. Chloroform or hexane (is a drug that causes anesthesia too) are used in the laboratory in a private clinic.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 06:12:13 PM
    The Anthonys have officially called Casey a liar with the sex abuse accusations, do they also call her a liar with everything else she has said, or will they stick behind her with the other lies?

    Interesting to me is she was also hanging Cindy in all this, by saying she told her mom.  Cindy being a nurse would have to report that info or lose her nursing license.  She did the same thing again when she told the other inmate she got the chloroform from Cindy..who got it from work.  Both situations put Cindy's nursing license in jeopardy.

    I still don't believe the sex abuse, nor do I believe Cindy provided the chloroform.  Why look up how to make chloroform if Mommy is bringing it home.  Secondly..Cindy worked in an office environment and would have no access to chloroform.

    I really wish the family would burn her butt over these accusations rather then sit idly by.

    IIRC the searches for the chloroform was not done until AFTER Caylee was missing and already dead which made me wonder if someone did give her the chloroform and was trying to find a way to buy it online to cover that up.

    I thought the neck-breaking and how to make chloroform searches were done in March, before Caylee was murdered.

    Finally found it in my files. After I re-read the psychic reports! Man, some of those are so close to right! Anyway, here is the LE info on the chloroform searches:

    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image10-1.png)

    thanks brandi!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 08, 2010, 06:16:58 PM
    The Anthonys have officially called Casey a liar with the sex abuse accusations, do they also call her a liar with everything else she has said, or will they stick behind her with the other lies?

    Interesting to me is she was also hanging Cindy in all this, by saying she told her mom.  Cindy being a nurse would have to report that info or lose her nursing license.  She did the same thing again when she told the other inmate she got the chloroform from Cindy..who got it from work.  Both situations put Cindy's nursing license in jeopardy.

    I still don't believe the sex abuse, nor do I believe Cindy provided the chloroform.  Why look up how to make chloroform if Mommy is bringing it home.  Secondly..Cindy worked in an office environment and would have no access to chloroform.

    I really wish the family would burn her butt over these accusations rather then sit idly by.

    IIRC the searches for the chloroform was not done until AFTER Caylee was missing and already dead which made me wonder if someone did give her the chloroform and was trying to find a way to buy it online to cover that up.

    I thought the neck-breaking and how to make chloroform searches were done in March, before Caylee was murdered.

    Finally found it in my files. After I re-read the psychic reports! Man, some of those are so close to right! Anyway, here is the LE info on the chloroform searches:

    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image10-1.png)

    thanks brandi!!

    Well, this is totally different from some of the media accounts. I remember reading this now that I have seen it again, so were they looked up more than once or just in March does anyone know?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 06:17:39 PM
    http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2010/04/08/casey.anthony.profiler.insession?iref=24hours
    Were Casey Anthony's recently leaked jailhouse letters a 'set-up' for a jury? Profiler Pat Brown thinks so.

    video at link.

    thanks trim.....I still gotta disagree.....KC and/or BOZO had no way of knowing Adams would keep these letters....they show she is a narcissistic wench who thinks she is a celebrity, who plans her new life with no mention of Caylee being a part of it..............these are IMO not anything a defense attorney would want out. Now if they were about Caylee........different ballgame.....JMO of course


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 06:21:32 PM

    I hope he gets his Bae-Azz handed to him on an aluminum platter.  (Silver is too good for him!)
    Do you really think he will get spanked?  It seems to me that he always gets away with EVERYTHING!  I guess I'm really bothered by the unfairness.

    Bozo has finally ticked me off enough to do something about it. I wrote the Govenor of the FLABAR and asked her what could be done about him, who has to file complaints, etc. I am amazed at how restrained I was..heck, I even remembered to call him Baez instead of Bozo!!

    GO Tevye!  Let me know what I can do to help!!

    Didn't we learn (correct me if I'm wrong) that a regular citizen can make a bar complaint?  If so, wouldn't several complaints from citizens cause the issue to be looked into?

    well Blink did and she is a regular citizen.  I have already expressed my concerns to jail personel re: CO Hernandez, special privileges being given to KC, and BOZO breaking the jail rules..............I tired!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 06:23:49 PM
    Some one posted in the last few days. Was it here? I don't know. I read it online.
    Maybe Hinky. But they made a very good observation.

    Casey sitting in court. Sitting at the table. Writing on her tablet. As Jose or others were speaking to the Judge. The cameras panned back and forth. So I don't believe this was actually seen. A person's observation of what possibly could have taken place..

    Casey was writing to GA/CA  - this is how Bobo got the letters out to the Ants from Casey. That the tablet would be scooped up by Baez at the end of the session- thrown in his briefcase. And after the fact - he would then give the letters to CA/GA.. Makes sense to me. Why not let it happen right before everyone's eyes. Doesn't seem so sneaky does it.

     


    Boy-oh-boy...wouldn't you love to see those letters...wonder how many lies have been passed back and forth?  My bad...

    Oh yes...and I wonder how many, if any, have been passed since the A's didn't do what KC wanted re: cremating Caylee and that God awful memorial spectacle!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 08, 2010, 06:50:43 PM
    Sunny,I found these visitation logs.They are older.
    10/15/08-1/26/09
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3918071/Casey-Anthony-jail-visitation-log-1262009
    11/26/2008
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2777790/Casey-Anthony-Attorney-Visit-Log

    thanks,......I found these from 7/17/08 - 8/6/06

    http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0807/17122148.pdf

    meant to say there is a Michael Walsh, attorney on this one



    I saw 2 visits from Michael Walsh on 7/29 and 11/5. In her letter, KC says she wants to have her trial in Miami cause the jury would be better and the Walsh's live there. Oh, and of course the SUN AND SAND. She thinks she's going to the beach, lol.

    There is a Michael Walsh, Esq in Orlando  BUT  one in Miami I found here:

    http://www.uniteddefensegroup.com/our_attorneys.htm

       Michael Walsh, Esq.
    Senior Attorney of Counsel
    Michael Walsh has spent his entire career in the criminal justice field, where he has tried over 150 criminal jury trials as well as hundreds of criminal trials before judges. He has defended clients in a wide range of cases involving matters ranging from simple DUI's to homicides and narcotics trafficking.

    Mr. Walsh has practiced at all levels of Florida state court and federal court. He has even argued in the U.S. Supreme Court. He was recently named one of "Florida's Top Lawyers" by the South Florida Legal Guide, and he has been frequently featured in the local news media due to the high profile cases he has taken.

    Prior to working as a criminal defense attorney, Mr. Walsh distinguished himself as a fraud investigator where he exposed millions of dollars worth of fraud. As an investigator and prosecutor, he worked in numerous drug trafficking and homicide cases.

    And then this:
    http://lawyers.justia.com/lawyer/michelle-rodriguez-walsh-530003

    Not sure if this could be them



    When I search them separately they both come up with the same address. 46 NE 6th. At least we know they go together and I think it is them.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 08, 2010, 06:51:26 PM
    I have another question on child abuse and sexual abuse.  If she did infact go to a counselor with these claims of sexual abuse from her brother..is the counselor or clinic involved supposed to file a report?  I thought all professionals, nurses, counselors, doctors, even school teachers were under law supposed to file a report in cases like this since it happened when she was still a minor in the States eyes.
    When this all started to unravel in the very beginning. That it was quite obvious this family was being found dysfunctional - Was it not Grandma Shirley who said Cindy was going to Counseling because of Casey's behavior ?? 
    And that the counselor told Cindy that she needed to kick Casey out - stop enabling her. I swore Grandma Shirley said something like that ....... anyone recall.

    Rick Plesea  Page 8
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5470183/Casey-Anthony-Rick-Plesea-Interview-%28Uncle%29/

    Holy snickees, I didnt pull this together until rereading it....JOE JORDAN FROM FOXNEWS that is where Rick was told by JJ or thought JJ was from!   Wow

    Joe Jordan called me because I had posted my phone# for Rick to call me. Greta wanted an interview and asked me if I could contact Rick. She gave me her direct line # for Rick to call her and verify who he was. Joe was trying to get Rick's # from me. I refused to give him anything except his email address which was already posted. I don't think Joe talked to Greta at FOX. (at least when I talked to her she had not) I remember Joe telling me the name of a reporter, but can't remember now who it was.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 08, 2010, 06:57:26 PM
    Sunny,I found these visitation logs.They are older.
    10/15/08-1/26/09
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3918071/Casey-Anthony-jail-visitation-log-1262009
    11/26/2008
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2777790/Casey-Anthony-Attorney-Visit-Log

    thanks,......I found these from 7/17/08 - 8/6/06

    http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0807/17122148.pdf

    meant to say there is a Michael Walsh, attorney on this one



    I saw 2 visits from Michael Walsh on 7/29 and 11/5. In her letter, KC says she wants to have her trial in Miami cause the jury would be better and the Walsh's live there. Oh, and of course the SUN AND SAND. She thinks she's going to the beach, lol.

    There is a Michael Walsh, Esq in Orlando  BUT  one in Miami I found here:

    http://www.uniteddefensegroup.com/our_attorneys.htm

       Michael Walsh, Esq.
    Senior Attorney of Counsel
    Michael Walsh has spent his entire career in the criminal justice field, where he has tried over 150 criminal jury trials as well as hundreds of criminal trials before judges. He has defended clients in a wide range of cases involving matters ranging from simple DUI's to homicides and narcotics trafficking.

    Mr. Walsh has practiced at all levels of Florida state court and federal court. He has even argued in the U.S. Supreme Court. He was recently named one of "Florida's Top Lawyers" by the South Florida Legal Guide, and he has been frequently featured in the local news media due to the high profile cases he has taken.

    Prior to working as a criminal defense attorney, Mr. Walsh distinguished himself as a fraud investigator where he exposed millions of dollars worth of fraud. As an investigator and prosecutor, he worked in numerous drug trafficking and homicide cases.

    And then this:
    http://lawyers.justia.com/lawyer/michelle-rodriguez-walsh-530003

    Not sure if this could be them


    I asked about "Mike and Michelle" on thehinkymeter......here's the response

    “Mike” is Michael D. Walsh, a Miami criminal defense lawyer specializing in criminal appeals. He was hired in July 2008 to help Jose Baez appeal Casey’s bond denial. He also went on talk shows (Dan Abrams, Greta Van Susteren, etc.) in July and August 2008 to speak on Casey’s behalf.

    “Michelle” must work with Michael Walsh.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Babybear on April 08, 2010, 06:58:05 PM
    http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2010/04/08/casey.anthony.profiler.insession?iref=24hours
    Were Casey Anthony's recently leaked jailhouse letters a 'set-up' for a jury? Profiler Pat Brown thinks so.

    video at link.

    thanks trim.....I still gotta disagree.....KC and/or BOZO had no way of knowing Adams would keep these letters....they show she is a narcissistic wench who thinks she is a celebrity, who plans her new life with no mention of Caylee being a part of it..............these are IMO not anything a defense attorney would want out. Now if they were about Caylee........different ballgame.....JMO of course

    Hi sunny---I agree.  They had no way of knowing that Adams would keep the letters nor could they know she would turn them over to LE.  I don't believe "Criminal profilers" are even accurate most of the time.  I can recall a couple of instances where they were far off the mark and not one where they were correct.  It's hokus pokus IMO. But I can't see that this would even fall under the parameters of criminal profiling and IMO our guess is as good as Brown's.

    I think that LE could and should launch an investigation into Caaey's sex abuse claims.  Most of the time, all that ever exists to go on is one person's word. While personally doubt it in this case, much of the time people doubt claims of real abuse.  I believe it is LE's duty to investigate.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 07:03:27 PM
    I have another question on child abuse and sexual abuse.  If she did infact go to a counselor with these claims of sexual abuse from her brother..is the counselor or clinic involved supposed to file a report?  I thought all professionals, nurses, counselors, doctors, even school teachers were under law supposed to file a report in cases like this since it happened when she was still a minor in the States eyes.
    When this all started to unravel in the very beginning. That it was quite obvious this family was being found dysfunctional - Was it not Grandma Shirley who said Cindy was going to Counseling because of Casey's behavior ?? 
    And that the counselor told Cindy that she needed to kick Casey out - stop enabling her. I swore Grandma Shirley said something like that ....... anyone recall.

    Rick Plesea  Page 8
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5470183/Casey-Anthony-Rick-Plesea-Interview-%28Uncle%29/

    Holy snickees, I didnt pull this together until rereading it....JOE JORDAN FROM FOXNEWS that is where Rick was told by JJ or thought JJ was from!   Wow

    Joe Jordan called me because I had posted my phone# for Rick to call me. Greta wanted an interview and asked me if I could contact Rick. She gave me her direct line # for Rick to call her and verify who he was. Joe was trying to get Rick's # from me. I refused to give him anything except his email address which was already posted. I don't think Joe talked to Greta at FOX. (at least when I talked to her she had not) I remember Joe telling me the name of a reporter, but can't remember now who it was.


    seeme, thanks for clearing that up!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 07:06:52 PM
    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-teaser-20100408,0,3300993.story
    Casey Anthony case: Who would a jury believe?
     By Amy L. Edwards, Orlando Sentinel

    6:15 p.m. EDT, April 8, 2010
    Who would a jury believe: A corrections officer who guarded Orange County prisoners or the wife of an ex-cop now serving time for drug dealing?

    It's a choice a jury might have to make when the Casey Anthony murder case comes to trial next year — believe jail guard Silvia Hernandez or former Orange County inmate Robyn Adams?

    Adams has told investigators she and Casey Anthony used to "talk for hours" at the jail, a violation of jail policy.

    Hernandez says that's not true, that she permitted them to talk for 15 or 20 minutes at times but never for long periods. Although, she admitted, she allowed Anthony to cut Adams' bangs.

    Hernandez, 33, is suspended with pay while the Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigates how Anthony and Adams exchanged hundreds of pages of letters while they were at the jail together between October 2008 and April 2009.

    Casey Anthony is accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter Caylee Marie Anthony.

    Check back at OrlandoSentinel.com on Friday for the full story.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 07:08:58 PM
    http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/casey-anthony-judge-grants-prosecutions-request-for-transcript-of-hearing-corrections-officer-tells-reporter-to-get-lost.html
     Main  | ‘All My Children’: Michael Nouri to join cast, play foil to Susan Lucci’s Erica Kane »
    Casey Anthony: Judge grants prosecution’s request for transcript of hearing; corrections officer tells reporter to get lost
    Caylee and Casey Anthony, Jose Baez, WESH, WFTV, WOFL — posted by halboedeker on April, 8 2010 6:47 PM
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    The state wanted a full transcript from a hearing last summer in the Casey Anthony case, and Judge Stan Strickland has granted the request.

    What made that August hearing stand out?

    “One of Casey’s former defense attorneys, Todd Macaluso, proclaimed her innocence,” WFTV-Channel 9 anchor Bob Opsahl said. “He claimed Caylee’s remains were placed in the woods off Suburban Drive after Casey was already in jail.”

    Anthony is charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter, Caylee. The defense team announced in February that Macaluso had withdrawn from the case. He had troubles with the California Bar and had entered an alternative-discipline program after being accused of “moral turpitude, dishonesty or corruption” in handling several trust accounts.

    WESH-Channel 2 anchor Jason Guy said the August hearing was among the more memorable ones in the case. “At that time, the defense also announced they were waiving their claim that the group Texas EquuSearch was acting as a so-called agent of the state,” Guy said. “This week [defense attorney] Jose Baez appeared to contradict that position and use it in his argument to gain access to records from the volunteer search group.” 

    So what does corrections officer Silvia Hernandez have to say? Robyn Adams, a former inmate at the Orange County Jail, has said that she befriended Anthony with help from Hernandez.

    WOFL-Channel 35’s Holly Bristow tried to talk to Hernandez and went to her home.
    No luck. The footage showed Bristow outside Hernandez’s door.

     ”Not sure you could hear that there, but she told Holly Bristow you have three minutes to get off my property,” anchor Cale Ramaker said.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 07:15:26 PM
    I have another question on child abuse and sexual abuse.  If she did infact go to a counselor with these claims of sexual abuse from her brother..is the counselor or clinic involved supposed to file a report?  I thought all professionals, nurses, counselors, doctors, even school teachers were under law supposed to file a report in cases like this since it happened when she was still a minor in the States eyes.
    When this all started to unravel in the very beginning. That it was quite obvious this family was being found dysfunctional - Was it not Grandma Shirley who said Cindy was going to Counseling because of Casey's behavior ?? 
    And that the counselor told Cindy that she needed to kick Casey out - stop enabling her. I swore Grandma Shirley said something like that ....... anyone recall.

    Rick Plesea  Page 8
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5470183/Casey-Anthony-Rick-Plesea-Interview-%28Uncle%29/

    Holy snickees, I didnt pull this together until rereading it....JOE JORDAN FROM FOXNEWS that is where Rick was told by JJ or thought JJ was from!   Wow

    Joe Jordan called me because I had posted my phone# for Rick to call me. Greta wanted an interview and asked me if I could contact Rick. She gave me her direct line # for Rick to call her and verify who he was. Joe was trying to get Rick's # from me. I refused to give him anything except his email address which was already posted. I don't think Joe talked to Greta at FOX. (at least when I talked to her she had not) I remember Joe telling me the name of a reporter, but can't remember now who it was.

    Tks Seeme...I wish I was at the beach!  ::MonkeyWink::   In this statement Rick states JJ is from Foxnews...interesting.   Why was JJ so intent on getting RP's # hmmm


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Lenie on April 08, 2010, 07:17:35 PM
    Hello All, I haven't read the jailhouse letters yet, but from what I can gather here is that Casey is accusing family of sexual abuse. Now someone correct me if I am wrong. But I remember reading way back when that they did a dna test on on some things found in the trunk. If I remember correctly they said that the test were inconclusive. Somewhere along the lines of the dna matched Casey but it was too close to match up with another person in the dna mix. I believe then that I saw several postings and news stories speculating about the father being Lee. I also saw on Rev. Grunde's myspace page (way back when) his speculation that Lee was Caylees father. Because of the abuse that Casey told Jesse about he thought that that was Caseys way of kinda letting them know that Lee was the father. If I am wrong I apologize, but I really believe that this was out there not too long after Caylee was reported missing.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 08, 2010, 07:25:33 PM
    I have another question on child abuse and sexual abuse.  If she did infact go to a counselor with these claims of sexual abuse from her brother..is the counselor or clinic involved supposed to file a report?  I thought all professionals, nurses, counselors, doctors, even school teachers were under law supposed to file a report in cases like this since it happened when she was still a minor in the States eyes.
    When this all started to unravel in the very beginning. That it was quite obvious this family was being found dysfunctional - Was it not Grandma Shirley who said Cindy was going to Counseling because of Casey's behavior ?? 
    And that the counselor told Cindy that she needed to kick Casey out - stop enabling her. I swore Grandma Shirley said something like that ....... anyone recall.

    Yes you are correct.  So this is just another of Casey's lies that contains a fraction of someone else's truth.  She uses bits and peices of other people's lives to construction her own fantsy persona.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: sandy leiva on April 08, 2010, 07:29:17 PM
    Someone on another forum just brought up that Cindy could lose her nursing license if it turns out Casey came to her about abuse and she didn't report it. That I would have no idea if that is true, but interesting. I sure would love to hear Cindy's brother Rick right about now on the topic of abuse  ::MonkeyEek::
       



    hello my monkey friends dont post much but read always:

    Yes its true any nurse is required by law when abuse is told or suspected to report it to the proper authoritys and let them investigate and deem if its true or not. Failure to report it can cause you to loose your license and go before the licensing board of that state.  sl


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 08, 2010, 07:36:15 PM
    http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2010/04/08/casey.anthony.profiler.insession?iref=24hours
    Were Casey Anthony's recently leaked jailhouse letters a 'set-up' for a jury? Profiler Pat Brown thinks so.

    video at link.
    Thanks  ::MonkeyWink::

    Well that firms up that thought!!


    I haven’t made a definite decision yet on whether or not the letters were a set up. But, there are several things that I’m looking at. First off, Baez must have known of the intimate friendship between Robyn and KC because he helped hook Robyn up with the two Walsh’s to work on her case. Next there’s the question of how Robyn mailed all that contraband out of the jail, but that could have been accomplished any number of ways besides having someone carry them out. Then there’s the question of why all the really incriminating stuff was only talked about and not put down on paper. Add to that the Walsh’s working for both of them and things start looking suspicious. I compare it to Skye passing notes around in the jail and River hooking up with GA. There’s more but this is enough for now. What I do know for a fact is the defense has intentionally kept this case in the news and until recently things were cooling off a bit. Not anymore. So, I will continue to try to make sense of these latest revelations and come to some kind of conclusion that I can accept. Right now I’m leaning toward set up cause I don’t believe in coincidences and there have been so many in this case that even if one tried to figure the odds mathematically it would blow up the chart.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 08, 2010, 07:37:46 PM
    Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

    I just called my daughter who is a nurse and asked about the abuse situation and she said yes you can lose your license for not reporting abuse of any kind.

    TY Darla..that was my point a few pages back..that by Casey writing these abuse accusations to her friend and that Cindy blew it off, then telling her Cindy got her chloroform, she was setting Cindy up to loose her nursing license if she hadn't reported it and it all took place.  That is why I don't think it happened any more then there was a Zanny the Nanny.  This girl revolves her life around her lies.  She is at the point where she knows she has everything to gain and nothing to loose.  She wrote those letters right after she found out Cindy was doing the Caylee Memorial Service the way Cindy and the family wanted..not following Casey's wishes.  She was mad at the family and this is how she strikes back.   


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: mizjay on April 08, 2010, 07:39:44 PM
    I really do not think Casey was ever in her life sexually abused.  She represents the stalking personality to me.  I have worked in this field many years...and she does not exhibit the traits of a victim of sexual abuse.  She does represent the traits of a user, sexual, monetary, whatever way she can to preserve her reality..note her reality..not ours./

    She has sociopathic behavior, combined with other personality disorders.  She is playing the public..and her family.  I would have added friends..but she has no concept of friends other then how they can benefit her end result.   She is not mentally unable to tell the difference from right and wrong..she just chooses to take the path she thinks will benefit her in the moment.

    Sociopaths do not think much about tomorrow..they are living in the moment of what they crave now.  They think they can distort reality enough tomorrow to make today's pursuit worthwhile.
    Oh boy, I've been out of town and come back to a whole thread and docs to read!  From what I can tell so far , I agree with you DD. Waaay back somewhere, BudsGirl made a good point about KC's account of Lee doing these things while she slept, interesting, she has her seizures while she sleeps also. Why is it that these things only happen while she sleeps? Not buying it.  She is a consumate user and she has managed to put blame on each family member. She is exacting her pound of flesh from them. 
    At first I really thought this was all a defense ploy but not so much anymore. I think for the first time since he got the case, Baez didn't try to make a huge deal about them because it was probably futile and protesting in his usual whiny way would only bring more attention to it . 
    I'm still not understanding this malarky about the body being placed there after she was in jail. Even if it was true which it is not, they don't appear to be saying anyone other than KC did the murder so I don't see what they're aiming for except confusion? 
    Going back to read more. 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 07:46:52 PM
    http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2010/04/08/casey.anthony.profiler.insession?iref=24hours
    Were Casey Anthony's recently leaked jailhouse letters a 'set-up' for a jury? Profiler Pat Brown thinks so.

    video at link.
    Thanks  ::MonkeyWink::

    Well that firms up that thought!!


    I haven’t made a definite decision yet on whether or not the letters were a set up. But, there are several things that I’m looking at. First off, Baez must have known of the intimate friendship between Robyn and KC because he helped hook Robyn up with the two Walsh’s to work on her case. Next there’s the question of how Robyn mailed all that contraband out of the jail, but that could have been accomplished any number of ways besides having someone carry them out. Then there’s the question of why all the really incriminating stuff was only talked about and not put down on paper. Add to that the Walsh’s working for both of them and things start looking suspicious. I compare it to Skye passing notes around in the jail and River hooking up with GA. There’s more but this is enough for now. What I do know for a fact is the defense has intentionally kept this case in the news and until recently things were cooling off a bit. Not anymore. So, I will continue to try to make sense of these latest revelations and come to some kind of conclusion that I can accept. Right now I’m leaning toward set up cause I don’t believe in coincidences and there have been so many in this case that even if one tried to figure the odds mathematically it would blow up the chart.

    Im obviously with you on that


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 07:47:55 PM
    Someone on another forum just brought up that Cindy could lose her nursing license if it turns out Casey came to her about abuse and she didn't report it. That I would have no idea if that is true, but interesting. I sure would love to hear Cindy's brother Rick right about now on the topic of abuse  ::MonkeyEek::
       



    hello my monkey friends dont post much but read always:

    Yes its true any nurse is required by law when abuse is told or suspected to report it to the proper authoritys and let them investigate and deem if its true or not. Failure to report it can cause you to loose your license and go before the licensing board of that state.  sl
    Thank-you  ::MonkeyCool::     
    It's a choice a jury might have to make when the Casey Anthony murder case comes to trial next year — believe jail guard Silvia Hernandez or former Orange County inmate Robyn Adams?  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Well I think they are both embellishing but I would have to believe the guard over Robyn Adams.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 08, 2010, 07:51:17 PM
    Never fails !
    every inmate miracilously gets jailhouse religion. They find Jesus in jail where it's convenient for their case and their new look. But the minute they get released  they loose their religion like fleas jumping off their skin.

    I noticed she still has her potty mouth even when she writes about God "Daddy" in one sentence in the next sentence she is cursing.  Then she is waiting for the Rapture..when more and more children will go missing.

    She tries to show empathy for her friend..yet even her friend is stunned when she writes  how much she misses her kids and then Casey's replies are always about moving away..the two of them ..this time to Costa Rica.  LOL

    Her gestures to show her "friend" support, empathy are so veiled.   She interjects a few comments here and there to make it appear she gives a dang but she doesnt & that is quite evident.   As always, it turns around to being all about her, what she wants, how she sees things.   Her mentions of Caylee are meant for what it could confuse a jury with BUT it is so transparent that she is saying them by design not from the heart.  When she does mention her it again quickly goes on to another more self-indulging subject, ya know like what she is having for lunch that day.

    It's very obvious that KC has adjusted well to being in a cell. Remember..she told Cindy that "I'm safe".  That's all she cares about...that she's safe...and she is in jail by herself.
    I'm sure she feels quite cocky putting notes in library book and using hand signs, etc.

    After her trial and move to a long-term prison, things will drastically change for her.  And the first time that she acts cocky toward another inmate, they're going to beat her to a pulp.



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 08, 2010, 07:53:17 PM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Details of Casey Anthony Friendship Surface
    04/08/10


    Good Morning Monks!  thanks trim......I questioned the scissors as well...Ms. Hernandez gave an accused murdered a pair of scissors........and opened the cell door..........she is a danger to herself and the the jail....she needs to go.  IMO
    ::MonkeyEek:: I don't even know what to say. I also wanted to say that if Casey is making this up about George and Lee and the sexual abuse, I do feel sorry for both men to have such vile accusations thrown their way, that is horrible.

    I don't think she is making it up at all. I think there is even more there than she is telling yet. She has all the behaviors of a woman who was sexually abused as a young child. The excessive need to have men's attention no matter what the personal cost to her. Maybe the teen thing with Lee was a "learned" behavior or even a mimicked behavior. Kids in a family KNOW the family secrets and one child in a family will always act out the family secret. Then we have the adulterous behaviors of CA all within this time frame.

    Take a serious look/see at what we see in GA. He like KC has a love/hate relationship with CA.  He is a womanizer, has an addictive personality and evidently from info released has had problems with alcohol, gambling, and other addictive behaviors. Sexual addictions go right along with those addictive behaviors. They also had a very CLOSED family with no friends included in their household which is always indicative of some type of family secret. How many families do you know where there are teenagers and none of their friends come to their house? Something was very wrong in that family and I am going with my first gut instinct that there was some type of sexual malfeasance.

    Turbo...do you think that this is what KC was referring to when she said to Cindy:  I didn't say anything?



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Deenie on April 08, 2010, 07:55:45 PM
    Page One of my Big Post - The blue words intermingled are mine.
    I am reading Rick's (Cindy's Brother) interview with LE.
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5470183/Casey-Anthony-Rick-Plesea-Interview-%28Uncle%29/
    The Week of Caylee reported missing - and the week prior.
    Rick states he speaks to his Mother weekly. Shirley Pleasea. That Cindy told her Mother after the infamous 911 call was made. That something happened to Caylee. Fearing she would see it on the news so she called Shirley. Shirley then emailed Rick with the news. Rick started watching it unfold ..on TV. Which then Rick started asking/pumping his Mother for info. ( I think because of prior history with Cindy he knows she lies) Within the mix of WHAT the H#LL is going On. Rick/ he is told by Shirley that Casey stole the check/Shirley's purse  Grandpa's account and Cashed it - 354.00. He states it was in April 2008 that Casey cashed the check for 354.00. That it was on the Mothers/bank statement. So then Rick says his Mother tells him that Casey has practically bankrupted Cindy - that over 50k was spent by Casey. That Cindy almost lost her house.
    http://www.wesh.com/news/18973853/detail.html snipped:
    Pleasea said she believes the unemployed 22-year-old may have stolen as much as $45,000 from her parents, possibly by taking out credit cards in Cindy Anthony's name. The mounting bills forced Cindy Anthony to tap into her 401K, and nearly cost the Anthonys their home on Hopespring Drive. The grandmother said she first learned of Casey Anthony's thievery when she discovered she had stolen one of her checks and spent $54 to buy a cake and party favors for Caylee's 2nd birthday and then wrote another check from Plesea's account for $354 to pay her cell phone bill.
    Rick says Shirley stated the 354.00 was on her April bank statement. That the bank reimbursed the Pleasea's. Why was Casey not " By the Bank" charged with theft?? My question* Did Grandma Shirley Tell Cindy on Father's Day afternoon that Casey attempted to steal yet another check from her or money by using her/SP's account number? After the April 354.00. Shirley must have said something to Cindy in person on Father's Day. I am trying to figure out the raged choking incident on Father's Day afternoon bet CA/KC. It may have been an attempt to steal, she didn't get away with it this time. That it pushed Cindy right off the porch.
    http://humbleopinionforum.net/cma-timeline-june-1-15-2008/
    SUN, June 15, 2008 – FATHER’S DAY!  Cindy took Caylee to visit with Alex P. (Caylee’s maternal Great Grandfather) In addition to Cindy video-taping Caylee reading a book and being held by her Great Grandfather, Alex P.  Cindy also took a photo at 12:03 p.m. on her digital camera.  According to Cindy, the visit with her father lasted approximately 2 hours. Then Cindy & Caylee had lunch with Shirley P at her home in Mt. Dora, FL. [discovery doc p. 662] Cindy and Caylee returned home later that afternoon around 4:00 p.m.  After giving Caylee dinner, they took a swim in the pool.  Casey came home at approx 7:30 p.m.  Cindy allegedly confronted Casey about stealing money from her grand parents Alex & Shirley P. or the argument may have been about Casey not spending enough time with Caylee. Lee allegedly said this altercation got so heated that Cindy started choking Casey.

    ** Which doesn't make sense! Because it is said that the last time LEE saw Caylee was on Cindy's Birthday June 5th. Did he witness the choking?? No he could not have, Not On Father's Day. Not to say the Choking didn't happen prior to Father's Day.  Was he told by CA on the phone or the Neighbors after the fact. That on Father's Day evening Cindy hauled off on Casey.  His Depo to LE states: Last time I saw Caylee was on My Mothers Birthday June 5th.
    http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/01%20Lee%20Anthony%20July%2029,%202008.pdf
    --
    continued:http://humbleopinionforum.net/cma-timeline-june-1-15-2008/
    [Est’d timeframe] Jean C. (a neighbor who lives across the street) overheard loud argument between Cindy & Casey.  While outside washing his car, Jean C. witnessed Casey coming outside screaming at Cindy.  Jean C. recalls Casey saying, “F*ck you, Mom!  I don’t want to hear it anymore.”  Note: Jean C. could not be certain of date, but believes this incident occurred in June on the weekend.
    I don't know if after 7:30 pm a person would be washing their car outside??? On Father's day evening? 
    Father's Day - According to George, Casey’s car was in the driveway when he arrived home from work. He had worked the 3 p.m. – 11 p.m. shift (per work schedule on George’s time sheet from Security Forces).
    My words: Father's Day.
    Scenario Bimbo strolls in at 7:30pm, after a hard day at the Bar, and Cindy is depressed, tired, Her father is ill, She has had Caylee all day, Drove back and forth, George prob left a ton of empty beer cans before he went to work @ 3pm * not to be a joke. Neither one of his kids recognized him on Father's day. Casey arrives home, doesn't acknowledge Caylee, and probably said something SMART to Cindy "Mom Where's my Dinner???" Cindy bit her tongue.   
    After removing Caylee from the pool and bathing her 7th time that day..went and found Casey in the house and went Ape on her..verbally. That was the first time Cindy said to Casey " I am taking Caylee Away From You". Because she had HAD it.

    Which goes back to the Dates being messed up "in memories"  Cindy/Shirley/Casey have said all along they could not recall the dates, there was so much within the days prior that Stood Out to them..It all started on Cindy's Birthday- The Drama. 

    That will be my page 2. 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 08, 2010, 07:58:59 PM

    I just can't see Lee in an incestuous relationship with Casey. I think he could barely stand her because she was so much like her Dad.  I think he hated the constant drama.  He kept to himself and got out of that house as soon as he could. 

    I can see his dislike for the whole family but I also see him as somewhat of an emotional cripple too. His reactions and facial looks do not match the circumstances many times. I go back to my original take on him which gave me the belief that he had all the markers of aspergers syndrome

    One of the symptoms is being physically clumsy. Remember Lee with that large poster board he was trying to demolish?



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: O4Bull on April 08, 2010, 08:00:20 PM
    Prime News video 04/07/10
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947

    Issues with Jane Velez Mitchell  04/07/10
    Transcript
    http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/07/ijvm.01.html

    thanks trim....this is one show I really can't watch....JVM really gets my blood pressure raging.......perhaps I can read the transcript
    Every time I see "Issues With Jane Veleze Mitchell" I think "Good, somebody finally started a group for people like us who have issues with Jane!"  ::MonkeyDevil::
    ::MonkeyDance::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 08, 2010, 08:06:38 PM
    I have another question on child abuse and sexual abuse.  If she did infact go to a counselor with these claims of sexual abuse from her brother..is the counselor or clinic involved supposed to file a report?  I thought all professionals, nurses, counselors, doctors, even school teachers were under law supposed to file a report in cases like this since it happened when she was still a minor in the States eyes.
    When this all started to unravel in the very beginning. That it was quite obvious this family was being found dysfunctional - Was it not Grandma Shirley who said Cindy was going to Counseling because of Casey's behavior ?? 
    And that the counselor told Cindy that she needed to kick Casey out - stop enabling her. I swore Grandma Shirley said something like that ....... anyone recall.

    Yes, she did.   There was mention of both seeking legal custody of Caylee and kicking Casey to the curb if she going to continue her bad behavior, such as stealing from her family blind numerous times.


    As I recall, we learned that the therapist told Cindy if she wanted custody of Caylee.  To first get Caylee in a safe place and then start the legal maneuvers.

    Cindy did NOT get Caylee in a safe place.  Look what happened.

    Cindy spouted off, lost control and throttled KC.  Look what happened.




    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 08:09:14 PM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Details of Casey Anthony Friendship Surface
    04/08/10


    Good Morning Monks!  thanks trim......I questioned the scissors as well...Ms. Hernandez gave an accused murdered a pair of scissors........and opened the cell door..........she is a danger to herself and the the jail....she needs to go.  IMO
    ::MonkeyEek:: I don't even know what to say. I also wanted to say that if Casey is making this up about George and Lee and the sexual abuse, I do feel sorry for both men to have such vile accusations thrown their way, that is horrible.

    I don't think she is making it up at all. I think there is even more there than she is telling yet. She has all the behaviors of a woman who was sexually abused as a young child. The excessive need to have men's attention no matter what the personal cost to her. Maybe the teen thing with Lee was a "learned" behavior or even a mimicked behavior. Kids in a family KNOW the family secrets and one child in a family will always act out the family secret. Then we have the adulterous behaviors of CA all within this time frame.

    Take a serious look/see at what we see in GA. He like KC has a love/hate relationship with CA.  He is a womanizer, has an addictive personality and evidently from info released has had problems with alcohol, gambling, and other addictive behaviors. Sexual addictions go right along with those addictive behaviors. They also had a very CLOSED family with no friends included in their household which is always indicative of some type of family secret. How many families do you know where there are teenagers and none of their friends come to their house? Something was very wrong in that family and I am going with my first gut instinct that there was some type of sexual malfeasance.

    Turbo...do you think that this is what KC was referring to when she said to Cindy:  I didn't say anything?


    I'm not Turbo  ::MonkeyTongue:: but I think that is what she meant.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 08, 2010, 08:12:24 PM
    Someone on another forum just brought up that Cindy could lose her nursing license if it turns out Casey came to her about abuse and she didn't report it. That I would have no idea if that is true, but interesting. I sure would love to hear Cindy's brother Rick right about now on the topic of abuse  ::MonkeyEek::
       



    hello my monkey friends dont post much but read always:

    Yes its true any nurse is required by law when abuse is told or suspected to report it to the proper authoritys and let them investigate and deem if its true or not. Failure to report it can cause you to loose your license and go before the licensing board of that state.  sl
    Thank-you  ::MonkeyCool::     
    It's a choice a jury might have to make when the Casey Anthony murder case comes to trial next year — believe jail guard Silvia Hernandez or former Orange County inmate Robyn Adams?  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Well I think they are both embellishing but I would have to believe the guard over Robyn Adams.

    A hard choice for me.

    The guard has most to lose (her job) and Robyn has most to win (a lesser sentence.)

     ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 08, 2010, 08:16:17 PM
    http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2010/04/08/casey.anthony.profiler.insession?iref=24hours
    Were Casey Anthony's recently leaked jailhouse letters a 'set-up' for a jury? Profiler Pat Brown thinks so.

    video at link.

    thanks trim.....I still gotta disagree.....KC and/or BOZO had no way of knowing Adams would keep these letters....they show she is a narcissistic wench who thinks she is a celebrity, who plans her new life with no mention of Caylee being a part of it..............these are IMO not anything a defense attorney would want out. Now if they were about Caylee........different ballgame.....JMO of course

    Hi sunny---I agree.  They had no way of knowing that Adams would keep the letters nor could they know she would turn them over to LE.  I don't believe "Criminal profilers" are even accurate most of the time.  I can recall a couple of instances where they were far off the mark and not one where they were correct.  It's hokus pokus IMO. But I can't see that this would even fall under the parameters of criminal profiling and IMO our guess is as good as Brown's.

    I think that LE could and should launch an investigation into Caaey's sex abuse claims.  Most of the time, all that ever exists to go on is one person's word. While personally doubt it in this case, much of the time people doubt claims of real abuse.  I believe it is LE's duty to investigate.

    I think LE should investigate those sex abuse claims also..they are public knowledge now..and so is the fact that she said she sought counseling for the sex abuse.  So LE just needs to get the Drs name from Casey and subpeona any records of said counseling.  Of course said counselor is probably going to be as elusive as that darn Zanny the Nanny.   .


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 08, 2010, 08:19:35 PM

    I just can't see Lee in an incestuous relationship with Casey. I think he could barely stand her because she was so much like her Dad.  I think he hated the constant drama.  He kept to himself and got out of that house as soon as he could. 

    I can see his dislike for the whole family but I also see him as somewhat of an emotional cripple too. His reactions and facial looks do not match the circumstances many times. I go back to my original take on him which gave me the belief that he had all the markers of aspergers syndrome

    One of the symptoms is being physically clumsy. Remember Lee with that large poster board he was trying to demolish?



    Sure do! Just ran across these today in my files. It was the dog lady's poster! The nerve of him!  IIRC he also took the water from the bowl and dumped it out.

    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/doglady.jpg)

    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/leesign.jpg)


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 08, 2010, 08:22:17 PM
    The Anthonys have officially called Casey a liar with the sex abuse accusations, do they also call her a liar with everything else she has said, or will they stick behind her with the other lies?

    Interesting to me is she was also hanging Cindy in all this, by saying she told her mom.  Cindy being a nurse would have to report that info or lose her nursing license.  She did the same thing again when she told the other inmate she got the chloroform from Cindy..who got it from work.  Both situations put Cindy's nursing license in jeopardy.

    I still don't believe the sex abuse, nor do I believe Cindy provided the chloroform.  Why look up how to make chloroform if Mommy is bringing it home.  Secondly..Cindy worked in an office environment and would have no access to chloroform.

    I really wish the family would burn her butt over these accusations rather then sit idly by.

    Chloroform...was banned in 1970...doctors have said on TV that they can't even get it in hospitals...therefore, clinics (like where Cindy worked) certainly wouldn't be able to get it.



    I am not sure about that. Sometimes clinics can get things like that from their suppliers to clean lab glassware. Chloroform or hexane (is a drug that causes anesthesia too) are used in the laboratory in a private clinic.

    Yes, now that you say that, I did hear that chloroform could by used for cleaning.



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 08:23:03 PM
    Lee is such a putz  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 08, 2010, 08:25:36 PM
    Some one posted in the last few days. Was it here? I don't know. I read it online.
    Maybe Hinky. But they made a very good observation.

    Casey sitting in court. Sitting at the table. Writing on her tablet. As Jose or others were speaking to the Judge. The cameras panned back and forth. So I don't believe this was actually seen. A person's observation of what possibly could have taken place..

    Casey was writing to GA/CA  - this is how Bobo got the letters out to the Ants from Casey. That the tablet would be scooped up by Baez at the end of the session- thrown in his briefcase. And after the fact - he would then give the letters to CA/GA.. Makes sense to me. Why not let it happen right before everyone's eyes. Doesn't seem so sneaky does it.

     


    Boy-oh-boy...wouldn't you love to see those letters...wonder how many lies have been passed back and forth?  My bad...

    Oh yes...and I wonder how many, if any, have been passed since the A's didn't do what KC wanted re: cremating Caylee and that God awful memorial spectacle!


    Too bad that we really didn't get much from KC's letter to Robyn that contained the fight about Caylee's burial and memorial.

    Did you notice that several of KC's letters clearly showed that not all of the pages of a letter were copied...I'm very curious as to what was not disclosed.



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: espresso lover on April 08, 2010, 08:26:54 PM
    Good Evening All,
    With the "allegations" of the sex abuse brought up again it reminded me of when it first was brought up waqy back when and I recall some mention of Lee on meds or something to that effect but for the life of me can't recall where to go back to the archives to find it but it is bugging me now....so, I started on the 1st thread and ran across this:

    WESH.com
    updated 6:39 a.m. ET, Thurs., July. 24, 2008
    ORLANDO, Fla. - The family of Casey Anthony is working to come up with a percentage of her bond, set at $500,000, to get the mother of the missing 2-year-old out of jail.

    Casey Anthony, 22, is being held on a felony charge of child neglect.

    A new court order on Wednesday changed the conditions of Casey Anthony's release from the Orange County Jail, according to a jail spokesperson. At the bond hearing on Tuesday, Judge Stan Strickland initially ruled that Casey Anthony would be required to wear a GPS monitoring device if released.

    The new order states that she will be on home confinement with electronic monitoring set up by the Orange County Corrections System, and would only be able to leave with permission. The new electronic monitoring device will track that she is in the home, but will not track her whereabouts. She must also hand over her passport and have a psychological evaluation by two separate doctors within 30 days of her release.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25821990/

    RE: Psych evals on Casey....

    Does anyone remember an approx. time frame when the first time the sex abuse came up ???


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: O4Bull on April 08, 2010, 08:30:11 PM
    Sunny, Capp, and everyone ...

    What about this Hernandez the guard .. Like I said the other day in question. What else did she allow to go on between Casey and Baez. What else did she take a blind eye to .. I wonder if Baez paid her? Those were crucial times that she allowed Casey to get away with anything in jail - It was before Caylee was found and directly after Caylee was found.

    Anything is possible with Baez it seems. He I think " has something" major up his sleeve. That he doesn't care if this is the last case he tries. Or if he is disbarred. What is ace in the hole is I don't know.  Who knows what he did with the 250k? He could have thrown it into an offshore account making huge interest on it..and used his own money to fund the case. He could make any records or statements look good " from his office" as long as there was real money at the time.  He is a snake.


    deenie, those are questions I have been asking as well....I think Robyn Adams has more to tell......and I would BET her attorney (s) is trying to work a deal.....I have to go back and read some of the letters and have been putting it off as it really does give me a headache....but KC talks about someone(s) taking Robyn case via BOZO....I wish I had taken notes but I didn't........but it keeps gnawing at me....if anyone remembers please shout out!  So if BOZO is associated in any way with any attorney(s) for Robyn I can't see her talking anymore without a deal
    Hmmmm...  If it's true that Baez found Robyn an attorney, what did kc tell him?  I guess he would have known they had been talking, no?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 08, 2010, 08:35:54 PM
    Page One of my Big Post - The blue words intermingled are mine.
    I am reading Rick's (Cindy's Brother) interview with LE.
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5470183/Casey-Anthony-Rick-Plesea-Interview-%28Uncle%29/
    The Week of Caylee reported missing - and the week prior.
    Rick states he speaks to his Mother weekly. Shirley Pleasea. That Cindy told her Mother after the infamous 911 call was made. That something happened to Caylee. Fearing she would see it on the news so she called Shirley. Shirley then emailed Rick with the news. Rick started watching it unfold ..on TV. Which then Rick started asking/pumping his Mother for info. ( I think because of prior history with Cindy he knows she lies) Within the mix of WHAT the H#LL is going On. Rick/ he is told by Shirley that Casey stole the check/Shirley's purse  Grandpa's account and Cashed it - 354.00. He states it was in April 2008 that Casey cashed the check for 354.00. That it was on the Mothers/bank statement. So then Rick says his Mother tells him that Casey has practically bankrupted Cindy - that over 50k was spent by Casey. That Cindy almost lost her house.
    http://www.wesh.com/news/18973853/detail.html snipped:
    Pleasea said she believes the unemployed 22-year-old may have stolen as much as $45,000 from her parents, possibly by taking out credit cards in Cindy Anthony's name. The mounting bills forced Cindy Anthony to tap into her 401K, and nearly cost the Anthonys their home on Hopespring Drive. The grandmother said she first learned of Casey Anthony's thievery when she discovered she had stolen one of her checks and spent $54 to buy a cake and party favors for Caylee's 2nd birthday and then wrote another check from Plesea's account for $354 to pay her cell phone bill.
    Rick says Shirley stated the 354.00 was on her April bank statement. That the bank reimbursed the Pleasea's. Why was Casey not " By the Bank" charged with theft?? My question* Did Grandma Shirley Tell Cindy on Father's Day afternoon that Casey attempted to steal yet another check from her or money by using her/SP's account number? After the April 354.00. Shirley must have said something to Cindy in person on Father's Day. I am trying to figure out the raged choking incident on Father's Day afternoon bet CA/KC. It may have been an attempt to steal, she didn't get away with it this time. That it pushed Cindy right off the porch.
    http://humbleopinionforum.net/cma-timeline-june-1-15-2008/
    SUN, June 15, 2008 – FATHER’S DAY!  Cindy took Caylee to visit with Alex P. (Caylee’s maternal Great Grandfather) In addition to Cindy video-taping Caylee reading a book and being held by her Great Grandfather, Alex P.  Cindy also took a photo at 12:03 p.m. on her digital camera.  According to Cindy, the visit with her father lasted approximately 2 hours. Then Cindy & Caylee had lunch with Shirley P at her home in Mt. Dora, FL. [discovery doc p. 662] Cindy and Caylee returned home later that afternoon around 4:00 p.m.  After giving Caylee dinner, they took a swim in the pool.  Casey came home at approx 7:30 p.m.  Cindy allegedly confronted Casey about stealing money from her grand parents Alex & Shirley P. or the argument may have been about Casey not spending enough time with Caylee. Lee allegedly said this altercation got so heated that Cindy started choking Casey.

    ** Which doesn't make sense! Because it is said that the last time LEE saw Caylee was on Cindy's Birthday June 5th. Did he witness the choking?? No he could not have, Not On Father's Day. Not to say the Choking didn't happen prior to Father's Day.  Was he told by CA on the phone or the Neighbors after the fact. That on Father's Day evening Cindy hauled off on Casey.  His Depo to LE states: Last time I saw Caylee was on My Mothers Birthday June 5th.
    http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/01%20Lee%20Anthony%20July%2029,%202008.pdf
    --
    continued:http://humbleopinionforum.net/cma-timeline-june-1-15-2008/
    [Est’d timeframe] Jean C. (a neighbor who lives across the street) overheard loud argument between Cindy & Casey.  While outside washing his car, Jean C. witnessed Casey coming outside screaming at Cindy.  Jean C. recalls Casey saying, “F*ck you, Mom!  I don’t want to hear it anymore.”  Note: Jean C. could not be certain of date, but believes this incident occurred in June on the weekend.
    I don't know if after 7:30 pm a person would be washing their car outside??? On Father's day evening? 
    Father's Day - According to George, Casey’s car was in the driveway when he arrived home from work. He had worked the 3 p.m. – 11 p.m. shift (per work schedule on George’s time sheet from Security Forces).
    My words: Father's Day.
    Scenario Bimbo strolls in at 7:30pm, after a hard day at the Bar, and Cindy is depressed, tired, Her father is ill, She has had Caylee all day, Drove back and forth, George prob left a ton of empty beer cans before he went to work @ 3pm * not to be a joke. Neither one of his kids recognized him on Father's day. Casey arrives home, doesn't acknowledge Caylee, and probably said something SMART to Cindy "Mom Where's my Dinner???" Cindy bit her tongue.   
    After removing Caylee from the pool and bathing her 7th time that day..went and found Casey in the house and went Ape on her..verbally. That was the first time Cindy said to Casey " I am taking Caylee Away From You". Because she had HAD it.

    Which goes back to the Dates being messed up "in memories"  Cindy/Shirley/Casey have said all along they could not recall the dates, there was so much within the days prior that Stood Out to them..It all started on Cindy's Birthday- The Drama. 

    That will be my page 2. 

    Wow just wow Deenie..I'm hanging on your every word. 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: O4Bull on April 08, 2010, 08:43:40 PM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Details of Casey Anthony Friendship Surface
    04/08/10


    Good Morning Monks!  thanks trim......I questioned the scissors as well...Ms. Hernandez gave an accused murdered a pair of scissors........and opened the cell door..........she is a danger to herself and the the jail....she needs to go.  IMO
    ::MonkeyEek:: I don't even know what to say. I also wanted to say that if Casey is making this up about George and Lee and the sexual abuse, I do feel sorry for both men to have such vile accusations thrown their way, that is horrible.

    I don't think she is making it up at all. I think there is even more there than she is telling yet. She has all the behaviors of a woman who was sexually abused as a young child. The excessive need to have men's attention no matter what the personal cost to her. Maybe the teen thing with Lee was a "learned" behavior or even a mimicked behavior. Kids in a family KNOW the family secrets and one child in a family will always act out the family secret. Then we have the adulterous behaviors of CA all within this time frame.

    Take a serious look/see at what we see in GA. He like KC has a love/hate relationship with CA.  He is a womanizer, has an addictive personality and evidently from info released has had problems with alcohol, gambling, and other addictive behaviors. Sexual addictions go right along with those addictive behaviors. They also had a very CLOSED family with no friends included in their household which is always indicative of some type of family secret. How many families do you know where there are teenagers and none of their friends come to their house? Something was very wrong in that family and I am going with my first gut instinct that there was some type of sexual malfeasance.
    and who can forget george cutting the umbilical cord and they didn't sense that was abnormal? they have photos of it


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: mizjay on April 08, 2010, 08:43:53 PM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Details of Casey Anthony Friendship Surface
    04/08/10


    Good Morning Monks!  thanks trim......I questioned the scissors as well...Ms. Hernandez gave an accused murdered a pair of scissors........and opened the cell door..........she is a danger to herself and the the jail....she needs to go.  IMO
    ::MonkeyEek:: I don't even know what to say. I also wanted to say that if Casey is making this up about George and Lee and the sexual abuse, I do feel sorry for both men to have such vile accusations thrown their way, that is horrible.

    I don't think she is making it up at all. I think there is even more there than she is telling yet. She has all the behaviors of a woman who was sexually abused as a young child. The excessive need to have men's attention no matter what the personal cost to her. Maybe the teen thing with Lee was a "learned" behavior or even a mimicked behavior. Kids in a family KNOW the family secrets and one child in a family will always act out the family secret. Then we have the adulterous behaviors of CA all within this time frame.

    Take a serious look/see at what we see in GA. He like KC has a love/hate relationship with CA.  He is a womanizer, has an addictive personality and evidently from info released has had problems with alcohol, gambling, and other addictive behaviors. Sexual addictions go right along with those addictive behaviors. They also had a very CLOSED family with no friends included in their household which is always indicative of some type of family secret. How many families do you know where there are teenagers and none of their friends come to their house? Something was very wrong in that family and I am going with my first gut instinct that there was some type of sexual malfeasance.

    Turbo...do you think that this is what KC was referring to when she said to Cindy:  I didn't say anything?


    I hate to make a statement based on some personal experience but will anyway!   I know a young woman who has done almost every single thing that KC has done except kill her children. Many many of the delusions are identical and she is as clear headed as you or I when it comes to fabricating  lies to damage someone else's reputation . In fact she has used the sexual abuse innuendo, it is the easiest hot button to cause doubt of someone else's character . It's the perfect excuse and crutch, and it's almost unprovable. He said/she said.  This person I know has not had abuse but acts exactly like KC, uses sex as a tool, always looking for some sucker who gets to be scared *hitless that she's pregnant even tho she's "fixed", but it's good for drama, sympathy and money.....always the sex kitten. It's her hook, women are useful too as long as they aren't prettier or smarter or have a real life, if they do, they are discarded and usually have an internet reputation bashing on all the social sites.
    Lying seems pathological for KC, revenge and jealousy are about all she has now but the real socio/narcissist can't help but emerge when she talks of her books that she's writing, her celebrity status, what she'll do after she's out...........she is weaving her incredibly fascinating life for everyone, no tv show/soap opera plot has been overlooked . I just don't believe her about the abuse   


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 08, 2010, 08:44:28 PM

    I just can't see Lee in an incestuous relationship with Casey. I think he could barely stand her because she was so much like her Dad.  I think he hated the constant drama.  He kept to himself and got out of that house as soon as he could. 

    I can see his dislike for the whole family but I also see him as somewhat of an emotional cripple too. His reactions and facial looks do not match the circumstances many times. I go back to my original take on him which gave me the belief that he had all the markers of aspergers syndrome

    One of the symptoms is being physically clumsy. Remember Lee with that large poster board he was trying to demolish?



    Sure do! Just ran across these today in my files. It was the dog lady's poster! The nerve of him!  IIRC he also took the water from the bowl and dumped it out.

    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/doglady.jpg)

    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/leesign.jpg)

    Brandi...thanks.

    Yes, Lee did dump out the dog's water (I think he also took the bowl...am I correct on that one?)




    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: O4Bull on April 08, 2010, 08:47:18 PM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Details of Casey Anthony Friendship Surface
    04/08/10


    Good Morning Monks!  thanks trim......I questioned the scissors as well...Ms. Hernandez gave an accused murdered a pair of scissors........and opened the cell door..........she is a danger to herself and the the jail....she needs to go.  IMO
    ::MonkeyEek:: I don't even know what to say. I also wanted to say that if Casey is making this up about George and Lee and the sexual abuse, I do feel sorry for both men to have such vile accusations thrown their way, that is horrible.

    I don't think she is making it up at all. I think there is even more there than she is telling yet. She has all the behaviors of a woman who was sexually abused as a young child. The excessive need to have men's attention no matter what the personal cost to her. Maybe the teen thing with Lee was a "learned" behavior or even a mimicked behavior. Kids in a family KNOW the family secrets and one child in a family will always act out the family secret. Then we have the adulterous behaviors of CA all within this time frame.

    Take a serious look/see at what we see in GA. He like KC has a love/hate relationship with CA.  He is a womanizer, has an addictive personality and evidently from info released has had problems with alcohol, gambling, and other addictive behaviors. Sexual addictions go right along with those addictive behaviors. They also had a very CLOSED family with no friends included in their household which is always indicative of some type of family secret. How many families do you know where there are teenagers and none of their friends come to their house? Something was very wrong in that family and I am going with my first gut instinct that there was some type of sexual malfeasance.

    I just can't see Lee in an incestuous relationship with Casey. I think he could barely stand her because she was so much like her Dad.  I think he hated the constant drama.  He kept to himself and got out of that house as soon as he could. 
    not to disagree, but there are some very odd things about lee.  He had few girlfriends that we know of, and when the exwife of the marine broke up with him he went a little crazy.  I see a guy who was awkward around females and who just might have molested his sister.  The really odd part for me is that I think she was willing.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: O4Bull on April 08, 2010, 08:48:30 PM
    I also think it's odd she said she told lee she'd kill him if he touched her again and not just tell someone.  ::MonkeyJnBox::  she's had it in her all along, IMO


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 08, 2010, 08:51:35 PM
    I also think it's odd she said she told lee she'd kill him if he touched her again and not just tell someone.  ::MonkeyJnBox::  she's had it in her all along, IMO

     ::MonkeyTongue::



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Curly on April 08, 2010, 08:52:50 PM
    Hi Guys,
         I didn't think I'd ever catch up. With work and all it's taken me all 2.5 days to read the "letters from the insane" and catch up here.
    You've all made such excellent points.

    I think Cindy created George and Casey.
    She took his manhood by forcing him out of a job he liked, and was actually good at. He even had friends.
    We all are familiar with her enabling of Casey and not allowing George to be an involved parent.
    I don't believe any of the sexual allegations. Not for a second. It's all been said so I won't repeat but she's all about garnering sympathy for her plight.
    The A's are the poster family for the dysfunctional, but I don't believe that they were involved in moving/hiding poor Caylee's body.
    I personally think Casey is insane.
    The handwriting alone is testament to someone that's not normal.

    I don't think that these letters were planted or contrived simply because (as was mentioned before) they couldn't foresee that "Cookie" would keep them.

    I think Silvia Hernandez is lying and I'm certain she's on her way to being terminated.
    Robyn does have that credibility issue, especially aside from being a convicted felon, none of the real bombshell info. is in writing, AND she never came forward with the information she had. She was ratted out by Maya Dercovick, and she was not happy about it. She could very well have seen the information about the black garbage bag and the blanket on the news. We don't know.

    I got a good laugh out of River pretending to be an illegal, but I also think she was holding back on her true relationship with George, however understandable lying about it was. The jig was up, she might as well have come clean to the cops.
    How crazy is that Kalani trying to blackmail her for money? Where do these people come from?

    Regarding Lee's denial of sexual abuse ~ Did he make a statement through a lawyer and is there no video of him, George or Conman?
    Did Conman say the A's were still supporting Casey?
    This is just unbelievable.

    I also thought I saw that there was in the supplemental another interview with Lee that hasn't yet been released? Has anyone else seen that or am I hallucinating from reading all that drivel?


     





         


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: klaasend on April 08, 2010, 08:55:39 PM
    (http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/th_C7C2F1FE_YouTube-ClassicAnthonyCrap.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/?action=view&current=C7C2F1FE_YouTube-ClassicAnthonyCrap.flv)


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 08, 2010, 08:57:28 PM
    http://thewholetruthalways.wordpress.com/

    Scroll down... picture of Cindy with red boxing gloves on



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 08, 2010, 09:03:37 PM
    (http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/th_C7C2F1FE_YouTube-ClassicAnthonyCrap.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/?action=view&current=C7C2F1FE_YouTube-ClassicAnthonyCrap.flv)

    Klaas...thank you for the video...brings back so many memories.  So Lee DID take the dog's water dish with him.  Why isn't that "stealing"?



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Western Observr on April 08, 2010, 09:12:54 PM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Details of Casey Anthony Friendship Surface
    04/08/10


    Good Morning Monks!  thanks trim......I questioned the scissors as well...Ms. Hernandez gave an accused murdered a pair of scissors........and opened the cell door..........she is a danger to herself and the the jail....she needs to go.  IMO
    ::MonkeyEek:: I don't even know what to say. I also wanted to say that if Casey is making this up about George and Lee and the sexual abuse, I do feel sorry for both men to have such vile accusations thrown their way, that is horrible.

    I don't think she is making it up at all. I think there is even more there than she is telling yet. She has all the behaviors of a woman who was sexually abused as a young child. The excessive need to have men's attention no matter what the personal cost to her. Maybe the teen thing with Lee was a "learned" behavior or even a mimicked behavior. Kids in a family KNOW the family secrets and one child in a family will always act out the family secret. Then we have the adulterous behaviors of CA all within this time frame.

    Take a serious look/see at what we see in GA. He like KC has a love/hate relationship with CA.  He is a womanizer, has an addictive personality and evidently from info released has had problems with alcohol, gambling, and other addictive behaviors. Sexual addictions go right along with those addictive behaviors. They also had a very CLOSED family with no friends included in their household which is always indicative of some type of family secret. How many families do you know where there are teenagers and none of their friends come to their house? Something was very wrong in that family and I am going with my first gut instinct that there was some type of sexual malfeasance.
    and who can forget george cutting the umbilical cord and they didn't sense that was abnormal? they have photos of it
       Creepy, and watched while her Episiotomy was repaired..
    I tend to think Casey's story about Lee was her own wishful thinking, as promiscuous as she was. I don't believe a word of it.
     


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Western Observr on April 08, 2010, 09:13:49 PM
    I'm just waiting for the Anthony family to announce they are all going to submit to a Polygraph to prove Casey is lying...     ::MonkeyDevil::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 09:14:29 PM
    http://thewholetruthalways.wordpress.com/

    Scroll down... picture of Cindy with red boxing gloves on


    I honestly don't know what to say anymore with all these people that have involved themselves in this case  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 08, 2010, 09:15:40 PM
    I have another question on child abuse and sexual abuse.  If she did infact go to a counselor with these claims of sexual abuse from her brother..is the counselor or clinic involved supposed to file a report?  I thought all professionals, nurses, counselors, doctors, even school teachers were under law supposed to file a report in cases like this since it happened when she was still a minor in the States eyes.
    When this all started to unravel in the very beginning. That it was quite obvious this family was being found dysfunctional - Was it not Grandma Shirley who said Cindy was going to Counseling because of Casey's behavior ?? 
    And that the counselor told Cindy that she needed to kick Casey out - stop enabling her. I swore Grandma Shirley said something like that ....... anyone recall.

    Rick Plesea  Page 8
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5470183/Casey-Anthony-Rick-Plesea-Interview-%28Uncle%29/

    Holy snickees, I didnt pull this together until rereading it....JOE JORDAN FROM FOXNEWS that is where Rick was told by JJ or thought JJ was from!   Wow

    Joe Jordan called me because I had posted my phone# for Rick to call me. Greta wanted an interview and asked me if I could contact Rick. She gave me her direct line # for Rick to call her and verify who he was. Joe was trying to get Rick's # from me. I refused to give him anything except his email address which was already posted. I don't think Joe talked to Greta at FOX. (at least when I talked to her she had not) I remember Joe telling me the name of a reporter, but can't remember now who it was.

    Tks Seeme...I wish I was at the beach!  ::MonkeyWink::   In this statement Rick states JJ is from Foxnews...interesting.   Why was JJ so intent on getting RP's # hmmm

     I just can't remember many of the details of our conversation anymore.....it was back in 2008. IIRC he was trying to get him an interview with FOX. JJ called me about 5 minutes after Greta, and I told him she was wanted to have him on her show. He said he was talking to a guy out of FOX's NYC office. He could have been trying to get him on Greta's show as well. I didn't know Joe Jordan from the man in the moon at the time......he did email me several times after that asking if I knew anyone that could volunteer to help with searches. He had a group of people (locals) who were searching before TES came into the picture during the week and weekends. He seemed like a nice enough guy.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 09:17:47 PM
    I knew about George cutting the umbilical cord but watched while the episiotomy was repaired I didn't know  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: I'm sorry but who allows their father to do that? I am very modest and that wouldn't happen in a million years, I'm speechless and grossed out.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Western Observr on April 08, 2010, 09:18:17 PM
    Good Evening All,
    With the "allegations" of the sex abuse brought up again it reminded me of when it first was brought up waqy back when and I recall some mention of Lee on meds or something to that effect but for the life of me can't recall where to go back to the archives to find it but it is bugging me now....so, I started on the 1st thread and ran across this:

    WESH.com
    updated 6:39 a.m. ET, Thurs., July. 24, 2008
    ORLANDO, Fla. - The family of Casey Anthony is working to come up with a percentage of her bond, set at $500,000, to get the mother of the missing 2-year-old out of jail.

    Casey Anthony, 22, is being held on a felony charge of child neglect.

    A new court order on Wednesday changed the conditions of Casey Anthony's release from the Orange County Jail, according to a jail spokesperson. At the bond hearing on Tuesday, Judge Stan Strickland initially ruled that Casey Anthony would be required to wear a GPS monitoring device if released.

    The new order states that she will be on home confinement with electronic monitoring set up by the Orange County Corrections System, and would only be able to leave with permission. The new electronic monitoring device will track that she is in the home, but will not track her whereabouts. She must also hand over her passport and have a psychological evaluation by two separate doctors within 30 days of her release.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25821990/

    RE: Psych evals on Casey....

    Does anyone remember an approx. time frame when the first time the sex abuse came up ???

    IIRC Lee was a teenager when he was put on meds for Acne and had an adverse reaction to it ( some sort of psychiatric effect ) and took a long time to recover from it ( Cindy wanted to hide the fact of course).    The interviews with KC's boyfriends were right at the start of the case, she claimed Lee abused her  to Jesse, and Tony and one other? name and probably more. 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Western Observr on April 08, 2010, 09:19:52 PM
    I knew about George cutting the umbilical cord but watched while the episiotomy was repaired I didn't know  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: I'm sorry but who allows their father to do that? I am very modest and that wouldn't happen in a million years, I'm speechless and grossed out.

    While Casey was being sewn up CA and GA were still in the room - that is how CA got to hold Caylee before Casey, which she always resented.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 09:21:31 PM
    I knew about George cutting the umbilical cord but watched while the episiotomy was repaired I didn't know  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: I'm sorry but who allows their father to do that? I am very modest and that wouldn't happen in a million years, I'm speechless and grossed out.

    While Casey was being sewn up CA and GA were still in the room - that is how CA got to hold Caylee before Casey, which she always resented.
    Wow  ::MonkeyEek:: Maybe people do that nowadays I don't know.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 08, 2010, 09:27:00 PM
    I knew about George cutting the umbilical cord but watched while the episiotomy was repaired I didn't know  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: I'm sorry but who allows their father to do that? I am very modest and that wouldn't happen in a million years, I'm speechless and grossed out.

    While Casey was being sewn up CA and GA were still in the room - that is how CA got to hold Caylee before Casey, which she always resented.
    Wow  ::MonkeyEek:: Maybe people do that nowadays I don't know.

    IMO, not "normal" people.

    Just saying.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 09:28:30 PM
    Page One of my Big Post - The blue words intermingled are mine.
    I am reading Rick's (Cindy's Brother) interview with LE.
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5470183/Casey-Anthony-Rick-Plesea-Interview-%28Uncle%29/
    The Week of Caylee reported missing - and the week prior.
    Rick states he speaks to his Mother weekly. Shirley Pleasea. That Cindy told her Mother after the infamous 911 call was made. That something happened to Caylee. Fearing she would see it on the news so she called Shirley. Shirley then emailed Rick with the news. Rick started watching it unfold ..on TV. Which then Rick started asking/pumping his Mother for info. ( I think because of prior history with Cindy he knows she lies) Within the mix of WHAT the H#LL is going On. Rick/ he is told by Shirley that Casey stole the check/Shirley's purse  Grandpa's account and Cashed it - 354.00. He states it was in April 2008 that Casey cashed the check for 354.00. That it was on the Mothers/bank statement. So then Rick says his Mother tells him that Casey has practically bankrupted Cindy - that over 50k was spent by Casey. That Cindy almost lost her house.
    http://www.wesh.com/news/18973853/detail.html snipped:
    Pleasea said she believes the unemployed 22-year-old may have stolen as much as $45,000 from her parents, possibly by taking out credit cards in Cindy Anthony's name. The mounting bills forced Cindy Anthony to tap into her 401K, and nearly cost the Anthonys their home on Hopespring Drive. The grandmother said she first learned of Casey Anthony's thievery when she discovered she had stolen one of her checks and spent $54 to buy a cake and party favors for Caylee's 2nd birthday and then wrote another check from Plesea's account for $354 to pay her cell phone bill.
    Rick says Shirley stated the 354.00 was on her April bank statement. That the bank reimbursed the Pleasea's. Why was Casey not " By the Bank" charged with theft?? My question* Did Grandma Shirley Tell Cindy on Father's Day afternoon that Casey attempted to steal yet another check from her or money by using her/SP's account number? After the April 354.00. Shirley must have said something to Cindy in person on Father's Day. I am trying to figure out the raged choking incident on Father's Day afternoon bet CA/KC. It may have been an attempt to steal, she didn't get away with it this time. That it pushed Cindy right off the porch.

    According to Shirley Cindy argued with her mother not to press charges against Casey, Casey cashed it in April, in May the bank informed who cashed the check.
    http://humbleopinionforum.net/cma-timeline-june-1-15-2008/
    SUN, June 15, 2008 – FATHER’S DAY!  Cindy took Caylee to visit with Alex P. (Caylee’s maternal Great Grandfather) In addition to Cindy video-taping Caylee reading a book and being held by her Great Grandfather, Alex P.  Cindy also took a photo at 12:03 p.m. on her digital camera.  According to Cindy, the visit with her father lasted approximately 2 hours. Then Cindy & Caylee had lunch with Shirley P at her home in Mt. Dora, FL. [discovery doc p. 662] Cindy and Caylee returned home later that afternoon around 4:00 p.m.  After giving Caylee dinner, they took a swim in the pool.  Casey came home at approx 7:30 p.m.  Cindy allegedly confronted Casey about stealing money from her grand parents Alex & Shirley P. or the argument may have been about Casey not spending enough time with Caylee. Lee allegedly said this altercation got so heated that Cindy started choking Casey.

    ** Which doesn't make sense! Because it is said that the last time LEE saw Caylee was on Cindy's Birthday June 5th. Did he witness the choking?? No he could not have, Not On Father's Day. Not to say the Choking didn't happen prior to Father's Day.  Was he told by CA on the phone or the Neighbors after the fact. That on Father's Day evening Cindy hauled off on Casey.  His Depo to LE states: Last time I saw Caylee was on My Mothers Birthday June 5th.

    Deenie, according to what Lee told Jesse Grund see this media report:  http://www.wesh.com/news/19129570/detail.html
    Also in his interview, Grund is says Lee Anthony said his sister and their mother, Cindy Anthony, had a violent fight that led Casey Anthony to leave the home just before Caylee was reported missing. According to Grund, Lee Anthony said Cindy Anthony told him about the fight, which involved Cindy Anthony choking her daughter.
    Grund, however, said Casey Anthony never mentioned the fight to him.     I have limited time tonight but it should be cross referenced with Jesse's interview with LE
    http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/01%20Lee%20Anthony%20July%2029,%202008.pdf
    --
    continued:http://humbleopinionforum.net/cma-timeline-june-1-15-2008/
    [Est’d timeframe] Jean C. (a neighbor who lives across the street) overheard loud argument between Cindy & Casey.  While outside washing his car, Jean C. witnessed Casey coming outside screaming at Cindy.  Jean C. recalls Casey saying, “F*ck you, Mom!  I don’t want to hear it anymore.”  Note: Jean C. could not be certain of date, but believes this incident occurred in June on the weekend.
    I don't know if after 7:30 pm a person would be washing their car outside??? On Father's day evening? 
    Father's Day - According to George, Casey’s car was in the driveway when he arrived home from work. He had worked the 3 p.m. – 11 p.m. shift (per work schedule on George’s time sheet from Security Forces).
    My words: Father's Day.
    Scenario Bimbo strolls in at 7:30pm, after a hard day at the Bar, and Cindy is depressed, tired, Her father is ill, She has had Caylee all day, Drove back and forth, George prob left a ton of empty beer cans before he went to work @ 3pm * not to be a joke. Neither one of his kids recognized him on Father's day. Casey arrives home, doesn't acknowledge Caylee, and probably said something SMART to Cindy "Mom Where's my Dinner???" Cindy bit her tongue.   
    After removing Caylee from the pool and bathing her 7th time that day..went and found Casey in the house and went Ape on her..verbally. That was the first time Cindy said to Casey " I am taking Caylee Away From You". Because she had HAD it.

    Which goes back to the Dates being messed up "in memories"  Cindy/Shirley/Casey have said all along they could not recall the dates, there was so much within the days prior that Stood Out to them..It all started on Cindy's Birthday- The Drama. 

    That will be my page 2. 

    Wow just wow Deenie..I'm hanging on your every word. 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 09:29:49 PM
    I knew about George cutting the umbilical cord but watched while the episiotomy was repaired I didn't know  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: I'm sorry but who allows their father to do that? I am very modest and that wouldn't happen in a million years, I'm speechless and grossed out.

    While Casey was being sewn up CA and GA were still in the room - that is how CA got to hold Caylee before Casey, which she always resented.
    Wow  ::MonkeyEek:: Maybe people do that nowadays I don't know.

    IMO, not "normal" people.

    Just saying.
    For me too Brandi not normal, at least not in my view  ::MonkeyEek::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 08, 2010, 09:32:35 PM
    I'm just waiting for the Anthony family to announce they are all going to submit to a Polygraph to prove Casey is lying...     ::MonkeyDevil::

     ::MonkeyJnBox::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: espresso lover on April 08, 2010, 09:33:28 PM
    Ex-Boyfriend: Anthony Said Brother Made Sex Advance

    http://www.wesh.com/news/19129570/detail.html

    this was an interesting read....to me it is a contridiction???


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 09:37:25 PM
      ^^^I think the only reason dates got messed up about when the Anthonys originally said they saw Caylee last started with Casey's lies - then they all got caught in it because from the getgo they were covering up for her after picking up that car & what transpired thereafter that night of 7/15

    OK, Im heading out in a few minutes for the evening...have a nice one everyone!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Babybear on April 08, 2010, 09:37:27 PM
    (http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/th_C7C2F1FE_YouTube-ClassicAnthonyCrap.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/?action=view&current=C7C2F1FE_YouTube-ClassicAnthonyCrap.flv)

    Klaas...thank you for the video...brings back so many memories.  So Lee DID take the dog's water dish with him.  Why isn't that "stealing"?



    I'm not Klaas, but if you don't mind, I'll jump in here and say it IS stealing.  This young woman was on public property.  Lee also stole her sign and vandalized it.  He fought the sign and the sign won.  That dumbo can't even tear up poster board. I don't know why the Anthonys are covered with Teflon as far as LE is concerned, but they are.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: darla on April 08, 2010, 09:37:29 PM
    I'm just waiting for the Anthony family to announce they are all going to submit to a Polygraph to prove Casey is lying...     ::MonkeyDevil::

     ::MonkeyJnBox::




    Oh..Western, just please don't hold your breath til that happens....we like you!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 08, 2010, 09:39:32 PM
    Good Evening All,
    With the "allegations" of the sex abuse brought up again it reminded me of when it first was brought up waqy back when and I recall some mention of Lee on meds or something to that effect but for the life of me can't recall where to go back to the archives to find it but it is bugging me now....so, I started on the 1st thread and ran across this:

    WESH.com
    updated 6:39 a.m. ET, Thurs., July. 24, 2008
    ORLANDO, Fla. - The family of Casey Anthony is working to come up with a percentage of her bond, set at $500,000, to get the mother of the missing 2-year-old out of jail.

    Casey Anthony, 22, is being held on a felony charge of child neglect.

    A new court order on Wednesday changed the conditions of Casey Anthony's release from the Orange County Jail, according to a jail spokesperson. At the bond hearing on Tuesday, Judge Stan Strickland initially ruled that Casey Anthony would be required to wear a GPS monitoring device if released.

    The new order states that she will be on home confinement with electronic monitoring set up by the Orange County Corrections System, and would only be able to leave with permission. The new electronic monitoring device will track that she is in the home, but will not track her whereabouts. She must also hand over her passport and have a psychological evaluation by two separate doctors within 30 days of her release.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25821990/

    RE: Psych evals on Casey....

    Does anyone remember an approx. time frame when the first time the sex abuse came up ???

    I might be wrong but I thought she said from age 12-15

    I believe he was on the medication Acutane for acne. He was about 16 because he wasn't allowed to drive for a while.
    This is according to Cindy, FWIW


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Babybear on April 08, 2010, 09:45:26 PM
    I knew about George cutting the umbilical cord but watched while the episiotomy was repaired I didn't know  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: I'm sorry but who allows their father to do that? I am very modest and that wouldn't happen in a million years, I'm speechless and grossed out.

    While Casey was being sewn up CA and GA were still in the room - that is how CA got to hold Caylee before Casey, which she always resented.
    Wow  ::MonkeyEek:: Maybe people do that nowadays I don't know.

    IMO, not "normal" people.

    Just saying.

    No, not "Normal" people.  These Anthonys seem to have no idea at all of what is appropriate and what is not.  I have never heard of the father of the new mother cutting the unbilical cord.  Sometimes, the baby's father does.................
    I know that Lee was eliminated by DNA as Caylee's father but did they ever test George?  There are some pictures when Caylee was very young where she looks like a mini-George.  To tell the truth, nothing about this weird family would surprise me.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: O4Bull on April 08, 2010, 09:45:55 PM
    I'm just waiting for the Anthony family to announce they are all going to submit to a Polygraph to prove Casey is lying...     ::MonkeyDevil::
    OMG ...  that my monkey friend was PRICELESS!  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: espresso lover on April 08, 2010, 09:46:25 PM
    Good Evening All,
    With the "allegations" of the sex abuse brought up again it reminded me of when it first was brought up waqy back when and I recall some mention of Lee on meds or something to that effect but for the life of me can't recall where to go back to the archives to find it but it is bugging me now....so, I started on the 1st thread and ran across this:

    WESH.com
    updated 6:39 a.m. ET, Thurs., July. 24, 2008
    ORLANDO, Fla. - The family of Casey Anthony is working to come up with a percentage of her bond, set at $500,000, to get the mother of the missing 2-year-old out of jail.

    Casey Anthony, 22, is being held on a felony charge of child neglect.

    A new court order on Wednesday changed the conditions of Casey Anthony's release from the Orange County Jail, according to a jail spokesperson. At the bond hearing on Tuesday, Judge Stan Strickland initially ruled that Casey Anthony would be required to wear a GPS monitoring device if released.

    The new order states that she will be on home confinement with electronic monitoring set up by the Orange County Corrections System, and would only be able to leave with permission. The new electronic monitoring device will track that she is in the home, but will not track her whereabouts. She must also hand over her passport and have a psychological evaluation by two separate doctors within 30 days of her release.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25821990/

    RE: Psych evals on Casey....

    Does anyone remember an approx. time frame when the first time the sex abuse came up ???

    I might be wrong but I thought she said from age 12-15

    I believe he was on the medication Acutane for acne. He was about 16 because he wasn't allowed to drive for a while.
    This is according to Cindy, FWIW

    Reason I am asking is when all that 1st came up I vaguely recall the 2 being connected ( Lee on meds vs. the allegations)  since none of the A's denied it and people were shocked and now it comes back up again and they are denying it..."WHY?" now and not before ?? And Jesse states that she told him of it back in 2005....my head is spinning now...LOL


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 09:47:53 PM


    Boy-oh-boy...wouldn't you love to see those letters...wonder how many lies have been passed back and forth?  My bad...

    Oh yes...and I wonder how many, if any, have been passed since the A's didn't do what KC wanted re: cremating Caylee and that God awful memorial spectacle!


    Too bad that we really didn't get much from KC's letter to Robyn that contained the fight about Caylee's burial and memorial.

    Did you notice that several of KC's letters clearly showed that not all of the pages of a letter were copied...I'm very curious as to what was not disclosed.

    Puzzler, I did notice it...........and that's what makes me think Robyn still has more to tell........ ::MonkeyWink::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 09:49:31 PM
    I knew about George cutting the umbilical cord but watched while the episiotomy was repaired I didn't know  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: I'm sorry but who allows their father to do that? I am very modest and that wouldn't happen in a million years, I'm speechless and grossed out.

    While Casey was being sewn up CA and GA were still in the room - that is how CA got to hold Caylee before Casey, which she always resented.
    Wow  ::MonkeyEek:: Maybe people do that nowadays I don't know.

    IMO, not "normal" people.

    Just saying.
    For me too Brandi not normal, at least not in my view  ::MonkeyEek::

     ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 08, 2010, 09:50:02 PM
    I'm just waiting for the Anthony family to announce they are all going to submit to a Polygraph to prove Casey is lying...     ::MonkeyDevil::

     ::MonkeyJnBox::

     ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 08, 2010, 09:51:20 PM
    (http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/th_C7C2F1FE_YouTube-ClassicAnthonyCrap.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/?action=view&current=C7C2F1FE_YouTube-ClassicAnthonyCrap.flv)

    Klaas...thank you for the video...brings back so many memories.  So Lee DID take the dog's water dish with him.  Why isn't that "stealing"?



    I'm not Klaas, but if you don't mind, I'll jump in here and say it IS stealing.  This young woman was on public property.  Lee also stole her sign and vandalized it.  He fought the sign and the sign won.  That dumbo can't even tear up poster board. I don't know why the Anthonys are covered with Teflon as far as LE is concerned, but they are.

    Yes, I agree, BB. Not only did he destroy her property, at then end you can see he emptied her dog's water bowl and took it away with him.

    Not to mention that he put her now-destroyed property in someone else's trash cans.

    I am just waiting til the A's get their just due. I do believe it will happen.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: darla on April 08, 2010, 09:52:55 PM
    NRCG......check your nanners.

    In Lee's interview when they asked him about Casey's allegations, He said he would address that when the time was right or something close to those words.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: darla on April 08, 2010, 10:05:12 PM
    Goodnight Monkeys...got to shut down, storms coming.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 10:08:03 PM
    NRCG......check your nanners.

    In Lee's interview when they asked him about Casey's allegations, He said he would address that when the time was right or something close to those words.
    Thanks I will  ::MonkeyCool:: Is there a connection between the acne medication and Lee sleepwalking or whatever the heck he was doing and sitting by Casey's bed and staring at her? WTH


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: O4Bull on April 08, 2010, 10:08:04 PM
    I admit that I was one who was convinced that  ::CowboySmiley:: knew something about Caylee's daddy and when he "hinted" that it was either GA or LA, I could totally believe it.  I was grossed out by it, but really thought that between the 2 it would have been georgie.  His behaviors to me are consistent with an abuser.  It made it easier to believe that he would cover for or help kc cover up her crime, out of guilt.  I don't know what I believe now, but I do think she was abused.  I tend to believe she was molested by george at a very young age to start with, and then she and lee played "doctor" together.  As sick as it sounds, I really think they may have had consentual sex as teenagers.  This family is a closed, secretive, abusive. habitual lying, manipulating (etc. etc. etc.) bunch and honestly nothing would surprise me.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: O4Bull on April 08, 2010, 10:08:42 PM
    Goodnight Monkeys...got to shut down, storms coming.
    nite Darla, stay safe!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 10:09:15 PM
    Goodnight Monkeys...got to shut down, storms coming.
    Stay safe  ::MonkeyAngel:: I'm going to have to go too bed also and watch some nonsense tv.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: O4Bull on April 08, 2010, 10:10:14 PM
    NRCG......check your nanners.

    In Lee's interview when they asked him about Casey's allegations, He said he would address that when the time was right or something close to those words.
    Thanks I will  ::MonkeyCool:: Is there a connection between the acne medication and Lee sleepwalking or whatever the heck he was doing and sitting by Casey's bed and staring at her? WTH
    maybe if we knew the name of it, we could google it?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 10:10:37 PM
    I admit that I was one who was convinced that  ::CowboySmiley:: knew something about Caylee's daddy and when he "hinted" that it was either GA or LA, I could totally believe it.  I was grossed out by it, but really thought that between the 2 it would have been georgie.  His behaviors to me are consistent with an abuser.  It made it easier to believe that he would cover for or help kc cover up her crime, out of guilt.  I don't know what I believe now, but I do think she was abused.  I tend to believe she was molested by george at a very young age to start with, and then she and lee played "doctor" together.  As sick as it sounds, I really think they may have had consentual sex as teenagers.  This family is a closed, secretive, abusive. habitual lying, manipulating (etc. etc. etc.) bunch and honestly nothing would surprise me.
    As much as it disgusts me to think it, I wouldn't doubt it for a minute  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: O4Bull on April 08, 2010, 10:11:51 PM
    I admit that I was one who was convinced that  ::CowboySmiley:: knew something about Caylee's daddy and when he "hinted" that it was either GA or LA, I could totally believe it.  I was grossed out by it, but really thought that between the 2 it would have been georgie.  His behaviors to me are consistent with an abuser.  It made it easier to believe that he would cover for or help kc cover up her crime, out of guilt.  I don't know what I believe now, but I do think she was abused.  I tend to believe she was molested by george at a very young age to start with, and then she and lee played "doctor" together.  As sick as it sounds, I really think they may have had consensual sex as teenagers.  This family is a closed, secretive, abusive. habitual lying, manipulating (etc. etc. etc.) bunch and honestly nothing would surprise me.
    edit to correct typo  ::MonkeyWink::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 08, 2010, 10:12:35 PM
    NRCG......check your nanners.

    In Lee's interview when they asked him about Casey's allegations, He said he would address that when the time was right or something close to those words.
    Thanks I will  ::MonkeyCool:: Is there a connection between the acne medication and Lee sleepwalking or whatever the heck he was doing and sitting by Casey's bed and staring at her? WTH
    maybe if we knew the name of it, we could google it?

    Am I losing my mind  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I could have sworn I read in one of Casey's letters that Lee was sitting on the floor by her bed with a flashlight watching her. Now if that is what I read and it is true, I don't think you would be doing that if you are sleepwalking, but who knows.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 08, 2010, 10:14:29 PM
    NRCG......check your nanners.

    In Lee's interview when they asked him about Casey's allegations, He said he would address that when the time was right or something close to those words.
    Thanks I will  ::MonkeyCool:: Is there a connection between the acne medication and Lee sleepwalking or whatever the heck he was doing and sitting by Casey's bed and staring at her? WTH
    maybe if we knew the name of it, we could google it?


    Lee was taking Accutane for his acne.  I really don't know what the side effects are for that drug.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: mizjay on April 08, 2010, 10:17:02 PM
    I have not seen Lee's statement either. I don't know what the Anthonys are suppose to do in this situation. If they wouldn't have said anything through the lawyer that would look suspicious, and with them saying something through their lawyer that also looks suspicious. Since everyone is a liar, it makes it impossible to know who is telling the truth  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Good point Rosie!  They are damned if they do, damned if they don't.  Hard place to be.  It didn't surprise me that their attorney made a quick denial on behalf of the family, which by the way it's worded seems to include Lee as well. 

    On the other hand, it seems that in every lie Casey speaks there's usually a bit of truth.  So I'm thinking that *something* happened in her past, re her family members, just not sure what that is. 

    One thing we can watch for is.. where is the anger at being falsely and publically accused of something George/Lee did not do?  If neither show anger at this... then... IMO, both are likely guilty as charged. 

    Cuz really, if you or I were accused falsely, wouldn't we jump up and say 'I did not!!!  how dare you say that?'  or something similiar? 

    Just waiting.. and watching..   ::piggy::


    Wyks~ ordinarily I'd agree with you, any normal, respectable ( even a non-respectable lout) person would be angry about being accused of that but this whole family is so deeply embedded in a web of lies that to deny the accusation out right sort of demands an explanation of why in the world their God fearing, MOTY, full of love daughter/sister would put these horrid lies in the public.  If they deny loudly then somewhere along the line they'd have to cop to the fact that she's a malicious liar, if she's not the sweet angel they've made her into, then all else is called into question.  If they had just told the truth from the beginning none of this would be beleived probably but no, they just had to try and make some money and to do that they had to keep the lies rolling, evil family pure evil

    One thing's for certain, a lot o bad stuff seems to "happen" while the're sleeping~ Amy's pants are different, years of bewbby touches (any mention of more?), goony brother with flashlight,  self diagnosed seizures, and is it any coincidence that possibly the murder scenario involves sleeping, medicating/poisoning with chloro. Weird.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 08, 2010, 10:24:14 PM
    NRCG......check your nanners.

    In Lee's interview when they asked him about Casey's allegations, He said he would address that when the time was right or something close to those words.
    Thanks I will  ::MonkeyCool:: Is there a connection between the acne medication and Lee sleepwalking or whatever the heck he was doing and sitting by Casey's bed and staring at her? WTH
    maybe if we knew the name of it, we could google it?


    Lee was taking Accutane for his acne.  I really don't know what the side effects are for that drug.

    I think he had low blood platelets (Thrombocytopenia)
    Can be a side effect of Accutane


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 08, 2010, 10:28:23 PM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Details of Casey Anthony Friendship Surface
    04/08/10


    Good Morning Monks!  thanks trim......I questioned the scissors as well...Ms. Hernandez gave an accused murdered a pair of scissors........and opened the cell door..........she is a danger to herself and the the jail....she needs to go.  IMO
    ::MonkeyEek:: I don't even know what to say. I also wanted to say that if Casey is making this up about George and Lee and the sexual abuse, I do feel sorry for both men to have such vile accusations thrown their way, that is horrible.

    I don't think she is making it up at all. I think there is even more there than she is telling yet. She has all the behaviors of a woman who was sexually abused as a young child. The excessive need to have men's attention no matter what the personal cost to her. Maybe the teen thing with Lee was a "learned" behavior or even a mimicked behavior. Kids in a family KNOW the family secrets and one child in a family will always act out the family secret. Then we have the adulterous behaviors of CA all within this time frame.

    Take a serious look/see at what we see in GA. He like KC has a love/hate relationship with CA.  He is a womanizer, has an addictive personality and evidently from info released has had problems with alcohol, gambling, and other addictive behaviors. Sexual addictions go right along with those addictive behaviors. They also had a very CLOSED family with no friends included in their household which is always indicative of some type of family secret. How many families do you know where there are teenagers and none of their friends come to their house? Something was very wrong in that family and I am going with my first gut instinct that there was some type of sexual malfeasance.

    Turbo...do you think that this is what KC was referring to when she said to Cindy:  I didn't say anything?



    That statement and also the one where she said  you don't know what you part is in this? Or something like that have jumped out at me since the beginning. It wasn't the words so much as the nuance of her words. I think she was threatening CA to tell something and that was her way of letting CA & GA know she would tell if pushed.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Tevye on April 08, 2010, 10:33:02 PM


    One of the symptoms is being physically clumsy. Remember Lee with that large poster board he was trying to demolish?



    Sure do! Just ran across these today in my files. It was the dog lady's poster! The nerve of him!  IIRC he also took the water from the bowl and dumped it out.


    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/leesign.jpg)
    [/quote]

    From the "Lee Anthony Sings the Blues" CD, track #3...."I Fought the Sign and the Sign Won!"


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 08, 2010, 10:33:57 PM
    http://drlillianglass.com/body-language-blog/

    George Anthony’s Courtroom Gum Chomping, Affair, Alleged Prior Knowledge of Caylee’s Death and Casey’s Alleged Sexual Molestation Claims Paint Him as a TOXIC MAN
    April 8th, 2010


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: O4Bull on April 08, 2010, 10:34:09 PM
    (http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/imonphotobucket07/googleeScreenshot.png?t=1270780290)


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 08, 2010, 10:38:22 PM
    I admit that I was one who was convinced that  ::CowboySmiley:: knew something about Caylee's daddy and when he "hinted" that it was either GA or LA, I could totally believe it.  I was grossed out by it, but really thought that between the 2 it would have been georgie.  His behaviors to me are consistent with an abuser.  It made it easier to believe that he would cover for or help kc cover up her crime, out of guilt.  I don't know what I believe now, but I do think she was abused.  I tend to believe she was molested by george at a very young age to start with, and then she and lee played "doctor" together.  As sick as it sounds, I really think they may have had consensual sex as teenagers.  This family is a closed, secretive, abusive. habitual lying, manipulating (etc. etc. etc.) bunch and honestly nothing would surprise me.
    edit to correct typo  ::MonkeyWink::

    I thought GA too. There was "something" about the hiding, the denial, CA's reactions and a lot of other things which made me come to that gut conclusion. I did not deny that it could have been Lee's and even leaned toward that at one time, but evidently the FBI cleared him but there is still unexplained to my mind the allies which are so close together in her DNA with the family's. Some people thought it might have been an uncle or cousin because of those. My thought was it might have been someone on Cindy's side because of the DNA semblance in the car DNA and I asked many times if she had a brother, but never really got an answer to that.   I could see KC banging CA's brother for spite if she could.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 08, 2010, 10:39:33 PM
    I admit that I was one who was convinced that  ::CowboySmiley:: knew something about Caylee's daddy and when he "hinted" that it was either GA or LA, I could totally believe it.  I was grossed out by it, but really thought that between the 2 it would have been georgie.  His behaviors to me are consistent with an abuser.  It made it easier to believe that he would cover for or help kc cover up her crime, out of guilt.  I don't know what I believe now, but I do think she was abused.  I tend to believe she was molested by george at a very young age to start with, and then she and lee played "doctor" together.  As sick as it sounds, I really think they may have had consensual sex as teenagers.  This family is a closed, secretive, abusive. habitual lying, manipulating (etc. etc. etc.) bunch and honestly nothing would surprise me.
    edit to correct typo  ::MonkeyWink::

    I thought GA too. There was "something" about the hiding, the denial, CA's reactions and a lot of other things which made me come to that gut conclusion. I did not deny that it could have been Lee's and even leaned toward that at one time, but evidently the FBI cleared him but there is still unexplained to my mind the allies which are so close together in her DNA with the family's. Some people thought it might have been an uncle or cousin because of those. My thought was it might have been someone on Cindy's side because of the DNA semblance in the car DNA and I asked many times if she had a brother, but never really got an answer to that.   I could see KC banging CA's brother for spite if she could.

    Sorry left this off........OR if GA had a son from a previous marriage.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: O4Bull on April 08, 2010, 10:46:02 PM
    I admit that I was one who was convinced that  ::CowboySmiley:: knew something about Caylee's daddy and when he "hinted" that it was either GA or LA, I could totally believe it.  I was grossed out by it, but really thought that between the 2 it would have been georgie.  His behaviors to me are consistent with an abuser.  It made it easier to believe that he would cover for or help kc cover up her crime, out of guilt.  I don't know what I believe now, but I do think she was abused.  I tend to believe she was molested by george at a very young age to start with, and then she and lee played "doctor" together.  As sick as it sounds, I really think they may have had consensual sex as teenagers.  This family is a closed, secretive, abusive. habitual lying, manipulating (etc. etc. etc.) bunch and honestly nothing would surprise me.
    edit to correct typo  ::MonkeyWink::

    I thought GA too. There was "something" about the hiding, the denial, CA's reactions and a lot of other things which made me come to that gut conclusion. I did not deny that it could have been Lee's and even leaned toward that at one time, but evidently the FBI cleared him but there is still unexplained to my mind the allies which are so close together in her DNA with the family's. Some people thought it might have been an uncle or cousin because of those. My thought was it might have been someone on Cindy's side because of the DNA semblance in the car DNA and I asked many times if she had a brother, but never really got an answer to that.   I could see KC banging CA's brother for spite if she could.

    Sorry left this off........OR if GA had a son from a previous marriage.
    it's been a long time, but I vaguely remember talk about that.  george and a son from a previous marriage.  Cindy does have a brother (Rick) and, to be honest, this is probably unpopular, but I think cindy has some drama in her closet from childhood.  she's messed up big time and I suspect there's something ugly in her past.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 08, 2010, 10:47:55 PM
    http://thewholetruthalways.wordpress.com/

    Scroll down... picture of Cindy with red boxing gloves on



    Interesting!  She is a student---a criminal justice student she states.   I thought she was probably a journalism student.   No doubt very young.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 08, 2010, 10:49:43 PM
    I'm just waiting for the Anthony family to announce they are all going to submit to a Polygraph to prove Casey is lying...     ::MonkeyDevil::

     ::MonkeyHaHa::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 08, 2010, 11:08:16 PM
    NRCG......check your nanners.

    In Lee's interview when they asked him about Casey's allegations, He said he would address that when the time was right or something close to those words.
    Thanks I will  ::MonkeyCool:: Is there a connection between the acne medication and Lee sleepwalking or whatever the heck he was doing and sitting by Casey's bed and staring at her? WTH

     ::MonkeyHaHa::     Who knew Bumps Away would cause the patient to Walk Away ... 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: NCMike on April 08, 2010, 11:12:54 PM
    http://drlillianglass.com/body-language-blog/

    George Anthony’s Courtroom Gum Chomping, Affair, Alleged Prior Knowledge of Caylee’s Death and Casey’s Alleged Sexual Molestation Claims Paint Him as a TOXIC MAN
    April 8th, 2010

    I'm very happy to see her bashing George. 

    As a side note, I went to traffic court last week.  Before the judge entered one of the baliffs addressed all of us in attendance and let everyone know that there is no gum chewing allowed in court.  He also let everyone know that if the judge were to see anyone chewing gum in this court room they would be held in contempt and fined $100....! 

    I really don't understand why JS lets these two get away with this crap.

    I say duck tape the two of them, that should stop the cud like chewing. 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 08, 2010, 11:17:15 PM
    Here we go again.....


    Jail telephone recordings of Anthony pen pal released


    http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/orange_news/040810-Phone-calls-of-Anthony-pen-pal-released


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 08, 2010, 11:19:11 PM
    Here we go again.....


    Jail telephone recordings of Anthony pen pal released


    http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/orange_news/040810-Phone-calls-of-Anthony-pen-pal-released



    There are roughly 800 calls recorded between Adams and others, dating back to July of 2008. It's what happened after Casey Anthony was booked in the Orange County Jail that will have you talking.



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 08, 2010, 11:19:45 PM
    http://drlillianglass.com/body-language-blog/

    George Anthony’s Courtroom Gum Chomping, Affair, Alleged Prior Knowledge of Caylee’s Death and Casey’s Alleged Sexual Molestation Claims Paint Him as a TOXIC MAN
    April 8th, 2010

    I'm very happy to see her bashing George. 

    As a side note, I went to traffic court last week.  Before the judge entered one of the baliffs addressed all of us in attendance and let everyone know that there is no gum chewing allowed in court.  He also let everyone know that if the judge were to see anyone chewing gum in this court room they would be held in contempt and fined $100....! 

    I really don't understand why JS lets these two get away with this crap.

    I say duck tape the two of them, that should stop the cud like chewing. 

    I agree! And leave the cell phones out of the courtroom. I think the time before this last hearing, Cindy was busy texting while waiting for court to begin. That the heck?!

    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image8-2.png)


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 08, 2010, 11:28:25 PM
    I admit that I was one who was convinced that  ::CowboySmiley:: knew something about Caylee's daddy and when he "hinted" that it was either GA or LA, I could totally believe it.  I was grossed out by it, but really thought that between the 2 it would have been georgie.  His behaviors to me are consistent with an abuser.  It made it easier to believe that he would cover for or help kc cover up her crime, out of guilt.  I don't know what I believe now, but I do think she was abused.  I tend to believe she was molested by george at a very young age to start with, and then she and lee played "doctor" together.  As sick as it sounds, I really think they may have had consensual sex as teenagers.  This family is a closed, secretive, abusive. habitual lying, manipulating (etc. etc. etc.) bunch and honestly nothing would surprise me.
    edit to correct typo  ::MonkeyWink::

    I thought GA too. There was "something" about the hiding, the denial, CA's reactions and a lot of other things which made me come to that gut conclusion. I did not deny that it could have been Lee's and even leaned toward that at one time, but evidently the FBI cleared him but there is still unexplained to my mind the allies which are so close together in her DNA with the family's. Some people thought it might have been an uncle or cousin because of those. My thought was it might have been someone on Cindy's side because of the DNA semblance in the car DNA and I asked many times if she had a brother, but never really got an answer to that.   I could see KC banging CA's brother for spite if she could.

    Cindy has 3 brothers. She has been pretty much estranged from 2 of them for years according to the 3rd brother, Rick. She does not talk to Rick at all since his statement to LE and posting the Anthony family's dirty laundry on a couple of blogs early on, soon after Caylee's disappearance. Cindy and Rick had a falling out, to put it mildly.
    I know George has at least 1 sister, maybe 2.....his sister that I am remembering is (supposedly) wealthy, and married to an architect or engineer. He has a sister who is bi-polar IIRC, but not sure if that is same sister.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 08, 2010, 11:35:29 PM
    Here we go again.....


    Jail telephone recordings of Anthony pen pal released


    http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/orange_news/040810-Phone-calls-of-Anthony-pen-pal-released



    There are roughly 800 calls recorded between Adams and others, dating back to July of 2008. It's what happened after Casey Anthony was booked in the Orange County Jail that will have you talking.



    Thanks--- I hope my brain can hold out. lol


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 08, 2010, 11:42:23 PM
    Here we go again.....


    Jail telephone recordings of Anthony pen pal released


    http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/orange_news/040810-Phone-calls-of-Anthony-pen-pal-released



    There are roughly 800 calls recorded between Adams and others, dating back to July of 2008. It's what happened after Casey Anthony was booked in the Orange County Jail that will have you talking.



    Thanks--- I hope my brain can hold out. lol


    I skimmed alot of the letters, hope I can hang in for these calls but have my doubts


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 08, 2010, 11:43:04 PM
    http://drlillianglass.com/body-language-blog/

    George Anthony’s Courtroom Gum Chomping, Affair, Alleged Prior Knowledge of Caylee’s Death and Casey’s Alleged Sexual Molestation Claims Paint Him as a TOXIC MAN
    April 8th, 2010

    I'm very happy to see her bashing George. 

    As a side note, I went to traffic court last week.  Before the judge entered one of the baliffs addressed all of us in attendance and let everyone know that there is no gum chewing allowed in court.  He also let everyone know that if the judge were to see anyone chewing gum in this court room they would be held in contempt and fined $100....! 

    I really don't understand why JS lets these two get away with this crap.

    I say duck tape the two of them, that should stop the cud like chewing. 

    Me too---she's really got his number;   I honestly don't think Judge Strickland is aware of their gum chewing many times.  I've watched how they don't chew for a very long time--you'd never suspect theyre hiding gum in their mouths ... but then, a stressor occurs and they start their chomping.   They are geriatric juvenile delinquents.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 08, 2010, 11:49:19 PM
    Here we go again.....


    Jail telephone recordings of Anthony pen pal released


    http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/orange_news/040810-Phone-calls-of-Anthony-pen-pal-released



    There are roughly 800 calls recorded between Adams and others, dating back to July of 2008. It's what happened after Casey Anthony was booked in the Orange County Jail that will have you talking.



    Thanks--- I hope my brain can hold out. lol


    I skimmed alot of the letters, hope I can hang in for these calls but have my doubts

    It's exhausting---I've a great deal of silent admiration for the detectives, prosecution, etc.  I think they have all been wonderful in their devoted pursuit of justice for little Caylee.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 08, 2010, 11:50:39 PM
    http://drlillianglass.com/body-language-blog/

    George Anthony’s Courtroom Gum Chomping, Affair, Alleged Prior Knowledge of Caylee’s Death and Casey’s Alleged Sexual Molestation Claims Paint Him as a TOXIC MAN
    April 8th, 2010

    I'm very happy to see her bashing George. 

    As a side note, I went to traffic court last week.  Before the judge entered one of the baliffs addressed all of us in attendance and let everyone know that there is no gum chewing allowed in court.  He also let everyone know that if the judge were to see anyone chewing gum in this court room they would be held in contempt and fined $100....! 

    I really don't understand why JS lets these two get away with this crap.

    I say duck tape the two of them, that should stop the cud like chewing. 

    Me too---she's really got his number;   I honestly don't think Judge Strickland is aware of their gum chewing many times.  I've watched how they don't chew for a very long time--you'd never suspect theyre hiding gum in their mouths ... but then, a stressor occurs and they start their chomping.   They are geriatric juvenile delinquents.

    Now that is a profound statement right there.... I came back cuz I heard about the phone call release, O God I cant possibly get thru it all tonight Im exhausted already but I will take a quick peak until tomorrow.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 08, 2010, 11:53:43 PM
    While listening to the jail calls, I googled and found Robyn and Clay's page ... http://www.momentville.com/RobynAndClay/welcome

    Apparently she was a newlywed when she got incarcerated.





    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 12:00:40 AM
    While listening to the jail calls, I googled and found Robyn and Clay's page ... http://www.momentville.com/RobynAndClay/welcome

    Apparently she was a newlywed when she got incarcerated.





    Anyone know how old she is?   In this first call Im listening to she talks about being handcuffed in front of her children.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 09, 2010, 12:06:27 AM
    They only have 2 calls up to listen to. Where are the other 798?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 09, 2010, 12:06:35 AM
    While listening to the jail calls, I googled and found Robyn and Clay's page ... http://www.momentville.com/RobynAndClay/welcome

    Apparently she was a newlywed when she got incarcerated.





    Anyone know how old she is?   In this first call Im listening to she talks about being handcuffed in front of her children.

    That's how authorities described it Tuesday when Adams, 36, and his wife, Robyn, 32, were hauled into federal court in Orlando on drug and weapons charges.

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2008-07-23/news/cop23_1_robyn-adams-marijuana-seeds-marijuana-growing


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: ISpy on April 09, 2010, 12:07:39 AM

    I just can't see Lee in an incestuous relationship with Casey. I think he could barely stand her because she was so much like her Dad.  I think he hated the constant drama.  He kept to himself and got out of that house as soon as he could. 

    I can see his dislike for the whole family but I also see him as somewhat of an emotional cripple too. His reactions and facial looks do not match the circumstances many times. I go back to my original take on him which gave me the belief that he had all the markers of aspergers syndrome

    Evening, all!  Just popping in to agree with you TURBOTHINK on Lee.  Not an expert by any means, but doing research on Aspergers and Autism on behalf of a child I know.  The key markers IMO are Lee's inappropriate laughter discussing the car smell, the "codespeak" between he and KC in the July-August 2008 jail visit videos, Lee's halting speech patterns/use of "circular" language, the picture of Lee laughing while holding an obviously distraught Caylee, and the infamous tortured  "CMA! CMA! CMA!..." outburst at Caylee's so-called memorial.  So many times the A's say something and we all go "Whaaatttt?".  I'm wondering now if their fractured speech patterns are the result of Aspergers or Autism (no offense to anyone with either or having loved ones with either). Just thinking here...

    The fact that the A's were in effect a closed family, as you succinctly stated, is usually indicative of abuse.  The thing I find equally odd is Cindy & George's dependence on Lee as a mediator:  Cindy calling Lee and asking him to find Casey and bring her home and George in a nutshell telling LE that Lee & Casey are closer than he or Cindy to Casey. Sometimes, based on Lee's expressions/reactions (such a high-fiving Casey upon ditching the media), he appears to me immature for his age.  All MOO

    Finally, maybe it's just me, but it seems odd that Caylee nickname would have been Cays.  Cays seems more like a nickname for Casey.   ::MonkeyEek::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Tevye on April 09, 2010, 12:11:55 AM
    In the first Robyn phone call (I'm only about 6 mins in), she just says Crzy is upset...but HER FRIEND is the one who tells her items found with the body can be tied back to the Ant farm.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Tevye on April 09, 2010, 12:19:30 AM
    Gotta say that whomever is talking to Robyn is saying all the right things..."You have to maintain, you have to keep a relationship with your kids"...all the things I tell my inmates.

    Now listening to her talking to her Dad. Gawd, these calls are so expensive, it's nice that these folks will spend that kind of money.  That doesn't happen a lot at my jail.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 09, 2010, 12:29:25 AM
    While listening to the jail calls, I googled and found Robyn and Clay's page ... http://www.momentville.com/RobynAndClay/welcome

    Apparently she was a newlywed when she got incarcerated.





    Anyone know how old she is?   In this first call Im listening to she talks about being handcuffed in front of her children.

    That's how authorities described it Tuesday when Adams, 36, and his wife, Robyn, 32, were hauled into federal court in Orlando on drug and weapons charges.

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2008-07-23/news/cop23_1_robyn-adams-marijuana-seeds-marijuana-growing

    http://florida-issues.blogspot.com/2008/07/altamonte-springs-police-officer-wife.html

    Some background on why Robyn Adams is incarcerated.

    Wow.

    ... a snipped portion:
    "Adams told the informant that "he would never lose his job and go to jail without a fight and that he would kill anyone who [messed] with him," the complaint said. Robyn Adams also told the informant she would kill anyone who exposed the operation."


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 12:32:59 AM
    In the first Robyn phone call (I'm only about 6 mins in), she just says Crzy is upset...but HER FRIEND is the one who tells her items found with the body can be tied back to the Ant farm.

    Yup, Im on the second call.  Her father asks if she & Casey can physically talk, robyn said no.  She asked  him to say prayers for Casey too.  Robyn doesnt like mornings, they were discussing family visiting for Christmas, her father told her to deal with it if it meant seeing her children....hello she's in jail its not like she cant sleep all the day or night long & why does that sound so wrong for her to be complaining about when a visit will occur if it means seeing her children?   It just ceases to amaze how some people can be.    Now shes on with their pastor.... she believes she's coming home, keeps begging for prayers blah blah blah...there really isnt that much on them at all regarding Casey but it does establish that she had a relationship with her & her family is aware of it.    Well, it might not be her place to judge but good gravy is she not getting that this beeotch is accused of premeditatedly murdering her babygirl that she has such empathy for her...boggles the mind.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 09, 2010, 12:37:28 AM
    In the first Robyn phone call (I'm only about 6 mins in), she just says Crzy is upset...but HER FRIEND is the one who tells her items found with the body can be tied back to the Ant farm.

    Yup, Im on the second call.  Her father asks if she & Casey can physically talk, robyn said no.  She asked  him to say prayers for Casey too.  Robyn doesnt like mornings, they were discussing family visiting for Christmas, her father told her to deal with it if it meant seeing her children....hello she's in jail its not like she cant sleep all the day or night long & why does that sound so wrong for her to be complaining about when a visit will occur if it means seeing her children?   It just ceases to amaze how some people can be.    Now shes on with their pastor.... she believes she's coming home, keeps begging for prayers blah blah blah...there really isnt that much on them at all regarding Casey but it does establish that she had a relationship with her & her family is aware of it.    Well, it might not be her place to judge but good gravy is she not getting that this beeotch is accused of premeditatedly murdering her babygirl that she has such empathy for her...boggles the mind.

    Yeah, no matter what Casey did or did not do, Robyn just wants peace for her.

    Um.... huh?!?!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Tevye on April 09, 2010, 12:38:16 AM
    In the first Robyn phone call (I'm only about 6 mins in), she just says Crzy is upset...but HER FRIEND is the one who tells her items found with the body can be tied back to the Ant farm.

    Yup, Im on the second call.  Her father asks if she & Casey can physically talk, robyn said no.  She asked  him to say prayers for Casey too.  Robyn doesnt like mornings, they were discussing family visiting for Christmas, her father told her to deal with it if it meant seeing her children....hello she's in jail its not like she cant sleep all the day or night long & why does that sound so wrong for her to be complaining about when a visit will occur if it means seeing her children?   It just ceases to amaze how some people can be.    Now shes on with their pastor.... she believes she's coming home, keeps begging for prayers blah blah blah...there really isnt that much on them at all regarding Casey but it does establish that she had a relationship with her & her family is aware of it.    Well, it might not be her place to judge but good gravy is she not getting that this beeotch is accused of premeditatedly murdering her babygirl that she has such empathy for her...boggles the mind.
    Usually, inmates like to sleep in the mornings. It seems to help their day go by more quickly. Which explains why all my time with them has to be in the afternoons. I know, I don't get it eaither...like, what do they have to do all day? However, it keeps them happy, which keeps the guards happy, so it goes.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 12:40:14 AM
    In the first Robyn phone call (I'm only about 6 mins in), she just says Crzy is upset...but HER FRIEND is the one who tells her items found with the body can be tied back to the Ant farm.

    Yup, Im on the second call.  Her father asks if she & Casey can physically talk, robyn said no.  She asked  him to say prayers for Casey too.  Robyn doesnt like mornings, they were discussing family visiting for Christmas, her father told her to deal with it if it meant seeing her children....hello she's in jail its not like she cant sleep all the day or night long & why does that sound so wrong for her to be complaining about when a visit will occur if it means seeing her children?   It just ceases to amaze how some people can be.    Now shes on with their pastor.... she believes she's coming home, keeps begging for prayers blah blah blah...there really isnt that much on them at all regarding Casey but it does establish that she had a relationship with her & her family is aware of it.    Well, it might not be her place to judge but good gravy is she not getting that this beeotch is accused of premeditatedly murdering her babygirl that she has such empathy for her...boggles the mind.
    Usually, inmates like to sleep in the mornings. It seems to help their day go by more quickly. Which explains why all my time with them has to be in the afternoons. I know, I don't get it eaither...like, what do they have to do all day? However, it keeps them happy, which keeps the guards happy, so it goes.

    I can see that but its not like they are exhausted from a heavy work week or taking care of a family, beeotch get your felony arse up!   God bless ya Tevye because I sure dont have the patience or tolerance.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Tevye on April 09, 2010, 12:43:31 AM
    the phone calls were almost a "waste, huge waste", except that we learned that Robyn was told about stuff around the body not by Casey but by a friend.

    From a FLE perspective, it sounds like Robyn has adjusted to jail life. And, this might not be popular to say, but it does sound like her faith was not a jailhouse conversion (I really think Crzy's god is the dude who lives downstairs...sneezing my ass!) but a long standing tradition. She has more credibility than Crzy at this point. Of course, she wants to sound good for her Dad and her pastor, but she at least is concerned about someone besides herself (and I'm not talking about Crzy, I'm talking about her family and friends).


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 12:48:49 AM
    the phone calls were almost a "waste, huge waste", except that we learned that Robyn was told about stuff around the body not by Casey but by a friend.

    From a FLE perspective, it sounds like Robyn has adjusted to jail life. And, this might not be popular to say, but it does sound like her faith was not a jailhouse conversion (I really think Crzy's god is the dude who lives downstairs...sneezing my ass!) but a long standing tradition. She has more credibility than Crzy at this point. Of course, she wants to sound good for her Dad and her pastor, but she at least is concerned about someone besides herself (and I'm not talking about Crzy, I'm talking about her family and friends).

    Yes, but the friend did not indicate what those items were specifically so if Casey said blanket, etc to other inmates (from what was reported it was plural) then she just fried herself.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 09, 2010, 12:54:46 AM

    I just can't see Lee in an incestuous relationship with Casey. I think he could barely stand her because she was so much like her Dad.  I think he hated the constant drama.  He kept to himself and got out of that house as soon as he could. 

    I can see his dislike for the whole family but I also see him as somewhat of an emotional cripple too. His reactions and facial looks do not match the circumstances many times. I go back to my original take on him which gave me the belief that he had all the markers of aspergers syndrome

    Evening, all!  Just popping in to agree with you TURBOTHINK on Lee.  Not an expert by any means, but doing research on Aspergers and Autism on behalf of a child I know.  The key markers IMO are Lee's inappropriate laughter discussing the car smell, the "codespeak" between he and KC in the July-August 2008 jail visit videos, Lee's halting speech patterns/use of "circular" language, the picture of Lee laughing while holding an obviously distraught Caylee, and the infamous tortured  "CMA! CMA! CMA!..." outburst at Caylee's so-called memorial.  So many times the A's say something and we all go "Whaaatttt?".  I'm wondering now if their fractured speech patterns are the result of Aspergers or Autism (no offense to anyone with either or having loved ones with either). Just thinking here...

    The fact that the A's were in effect a closed family, as you succinctly stated, is usually indicative of abuse.  The thing I find equally odd is Cindy & George's dependence on Lee as a mediator:  Cindy calling Lee and asking him to find Casey and bring her home and George in a nutshell telling LE that Lee & Casey are closer than he or Cindy to Casey. Sometimes, based on Lee's expressions/reactions (such a high-fiving Casey upon ditching the media), he appears to me immature for his age.  All MOO

    Finally, maybe it's just me, but it seems odd that Caylee nickname would have been Cays.  Cays seems more like a nickname for Casey.   ::MonkeyEek::

    Good evening ISpy,nice to see you here. From the very first time I observed Lee in action, I felt something was "off" with him. Each time I saw a video or a newscast with him in it, I tended to be more observant to try to determine what was wrong with this picture. As time went on  it just clicked to me to consider Aspergers as the cause. I do a lot of work with the homeless in my area and I see a lot of Aspergers in alcoholics and addicts. They seem to feel "different" and many times try to self medicate if not diagnosed to feel more normal. Of course that is dead end street and then the addiction sets in and they end up on the street.

    The dog incident was partly rage, but also there were a lot of markers I saw which just screamed out Aspergers to me. His clumsiness, his inability to tear a simple poster board. His total lack of ability to gauge other's reactions to his violent behavior. One of the things I noticed in his early interviews was his facial expressions not matching the circumstances. I noticed it in both him and KC. His laughter was like that of a young child who did not know what the proper response was in any given situation.

    I am thinking they both had something wrong mentally and GA & particularly CA did everything in their power to cover that up all the years the kids were growing up. There are mixed stories about why KC did not graduate with her class. Some said she did graduate, CA said she did but the detectives were very clear in the interviews that she did not. It has never been revealed if Lee graduated or not and I could not find him in the senior class he was supposedly graduating with. Then we have him a "car driver & parker" which would fall in line with my guess about him. His tirade on the internet about his ex-girlfriend when she left him sounded more like a 5th grade girl than a 20 year old man. I could make a mile long list of the things I have observed in his behaviors and the family behaviors appearing to cover up for both of them the appearance of a family with a mentally challenged child who has not accepted their limitations.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Deenie on April 09, 2010, 01:02:13 AM
    My page 2-My brain is officially broken for now.  Page 3 to follow shortly.
    * http://humbleopinionforum.net/cma-timeline-june-1-15-2008/  snipped:
    THU, June 5, 2008 CA's Birthday Lee stopped by the Anthony home to wish Cindy a happy birthday. He noticed Caylee was there, but Casey was not. This is the last time Lee saw Caylee alive. Casey never called to talk with Cindy or to just wish her a Happy Birthday,  according to Cindy’s Supv, Ms. Polisano at Gentiva Health Services. CA must have called into work and asked - Did my Daughter Call?
    June 5th -During a phone conversation with Cindy, Shirley P. assessed Cindy’s state of mind as being depressed. Cindy complained about Casey adding more of a financial burden on the household. Shirley P. later writes to Maryloubea and Shadow.  She mentions Cindy’s potential suicidal state of mind; George being a moocher and a loser; George’s sister Sonie having Bi-Polar Disorder and that “Casey is Bi-Polar, too!”
    Friday June 6th,2008 - Amy H totals her car - in a car accident.
    Sat, June 7, 2008 – Amy H. moves from Troy B.’s house in Oviedo, FL into JP’s house at 232 N. Glenwood AV in Orlando, FL. 
    Casey same dates at this time, thought/plotting/told everyone" But her Parents" within the dates mentioned- Amy and she were taking over the Ant house. Cindy and George were Divorcing. Cindy was getting an apt. Amy and Casey were soon to be roomies living together "Team Girlys" on Hopespring Dr. No mention of Caylee though - or who was going to watch Caylee or who was going to be able to provide for Caylee.

    http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/01%20Lee%20Anthony%20July%2029,%202008.pdf
    Page 48 - Line 1 Depo LA: Lee's recall June 5th starts again. Which is all triggered by Casey's words.  In his memory, Casey said the Smell "started" inside her car the day of CA's BDay. That struck him funny and he even says he told KC " There is no way that Mom or Dad would have Not been aware of that Odor all that time" I am paraphrasing him. That George would have known especially because the weekends he spent "cleaning the inside/outside" of the Ant's vehicles. I think in KC's head the Date 6/5 CA's Bday was the Date she started to create her alibi ie: Dead Squirrels. 6/5 was the creation of the End. CA's BDay was when CA Choked KC * I think. Throttled her like she has never done before. Lee did see it. Possibly* Neighbor Jean witnessed the argument/Fight * I think.  The words of the Neighbor's statement- KC to CA" FU MOM I don't want to hear it" leads me to believe that was CA screaming at KC in the house " I am sick of you walking all over Me, Its my BDAY and I have sat here all day with Caylee waiting for You, I am on VACATION from My Job KC" that led to the outside display for the Neighbor to hear. Shirley's recall 6/5 CA BDAY being to the point it makes sense that it was enough all by itself- "Casey" strolling in without a care on 6/5 Made Cindy snap. 
     Shirley's words on top of CA spending Sat 6/7 in Mt.Dora -CA was all over the place emotionally with Life +her Fathers health etc. IMO From June 5-June 15th were the Days that KC plotted the end of Caylee and possibly was plotting the End of her Parents.
    What does not fit into the time line of those dates " according to AH" KC stole Amy's Check Book possibly even some sort of ID * not within these dates. Its a mess,the change of AH's address landing in the Anthony mail box on June 12, 2008 from the post office * which I cannot find on record. ? She/KC must have RAN to the post office the day she found out Amy totaled her Car on the 6th. Casey knew Amy moved on the 7th.  Insurance Money was coming from the Car. Yet its all mixed in with the Talk prior with Amy and Casey moving into the Ant's house. That Casey was telling Amy & everyone the house was going to be theirs. What doesn't fit in is the first acknowledgment by AH being July 2nd that she felt KC stole from her the first time. To be continued on my page 3.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Deenie on April 09, 2010, 01:10:40 AM
    Page 3 -
    I found this snipped: http://prairiechicken.blogspot.com/2009/08/casey-anthony-timeline-revised-aug-26.html - A different rendition of what I posted -in regards to KC/CA and the theft of SP. Which one is correct? Cindy repaid the stolen $ or the Bank did ?
    April/May 2008 Casey also paid her AT&T bill of $354 with her grandparents bank account. She allegedly stole a check from Grandpa's checkbook, unaware that that account was closed because of her first theft. No one but the nursing home could issue checks on his current account. Cindy paid the money back and persuaded the establishment to not press charges

    June 4 AMY Wednesday, at 7:33 am Casey Anthony wrote to Amy on Facebook: oh, the times we will have! i can’t wait for us to become roomies in another week! Seriously… by the end of next week, it will be just us girls. I can’t believe it!
    June 13, 2008, Friday Casey lies to Amy, making up the story about George having a stroke and being at the hospital with him. Casey was supposed to take Amy to Jacksonville trip to pick up Amy’s new car. Calls Rico and tells him the same story. Roy House, Tony Lazzaro’s roommate, says he saw Casey AND Caylee on June 13 at the Fusion bar when Casey attended a party thrown by House and Lazzaro. It was noted because several people noticed and commented that it was inappropriate to have Caylee there. I think this is important, that Casey was told by her friends that Caylee shouldn't be at a night club on Friday night, three days before Caylee goes missing and one day after the big Fathers day argument.
    June 15, 2008, Sunday Caylee and Cindy visited Cindy’s father at 12:00 noon at his nursing home in Mt Dora. Last photo’s of Caylee taken, time taken from camera. A strong conversation occurred between Great Grandma and Cindy occurred because G-Grams wanted Casey held responsible for the thefts against her and the nursing home. This must have sparked the argument at home between Cindy and Casey. " My Thoughts NO the Fight Happened on CA's Birthday" But there was def a throw down between CA and KC on June 15th.
    Evening of June 15th:Tony said he talked “pillow talk” on the phone with Casey late into the night. He said Casey did not indicate that there had been any argument with her mother that night. (Sept 8 Tony Lazzaro interview)
    June 16, 2008Cindy returns home from work and finds the pool ladder is attached to the pool and the fence gate is open. End of Snipped.
    More AMY:
    June 16 Per Amy H official statement, Casey spent: June 16 thru July 4 with Tony Lazzaro, July 4-8 with Amy Huizenga at Ricardo Morales apartment, then July 9 thru 15 with Tony.
    Amy Amy Amy -  If AH's mail forwarding landed acknowledged USPS in the Ants Mail box on June 12th? Would it not be a clue to her AH - her mail was not coming to her by then? She moved on June 7th, from Troy's to JP's. She/her car was totaled on the 6th would she not be searching for her mail ? This is why I ask? flipping the calender up to June 24th -
    Casey is still allowing others to think that she and Amy are going to live together in the Ant house. 
    http://prairiechicken.blogspot.com/2009/08/casey-anthony-timeline-revised-aug-26.html
    June 24 2008 at 2:40pm Casey Anthony (Orlando, FL) wrote to troy on Facebook: she still has yet to move into the house. hell, in the past 9 days, i haven’t even been living at the house. DRAMMMMMA. I’ll fill ya in later on. Miss ya, yo.
    June 24 2008 at 2:46 Amy Huizenga (Orlando, FL) to Troy on Facebook wrote: I’m still at Ricardo and JPs… hopefully everything works out soon! Hey, so I forwarded my mail a little late… any idea how to get my insurance stuff that got mailed to the Oviedo house?

    What was really going on between these 2 girls? Amy seems to be the " Knot" of everything that has transpired in the days prior and days after Caylee went missing.
    July 2nd, Amy states that Casey stole money from her " first time" Cash Over $400.00.
    July 2nd, Casey gets a Tat of La Bella Vita on her shoulder- The very same day? Would that not be a red flag to AH? She had to have known Casey did not have a "job".  Between the two incidents in one day, where does the common sense come in? Why was it that CA called AH from the get go to Hunt Casey? The First and Only Call that made sense to CA.
    Because CA knew that AH would know where Casey was. I am trying to "remove" all the players and concentrate on the "3" core ppl - Casey, Amy and Cindy. Does anyone recall Amy having a job? Or being employed at ? How she was able to go on Vacations and etc..
     
    Why I ask and am concentrating on AH is because Casey would have "chosen" a sure thing "roommate"..with flowing Cash. She didn't chose Amy because she liked her or she was her friend - or because she AH was HONEST, KC had too much to lose with a Honest person. If Amy was making Cash somehow undocumented it would be all the better for Casey. I think back to my age, early 20's,  if I had worked hard to make 400.00 Cash or otherwise and it went Poof .. I would BE All over my unemployed loser friend Casey. I do not believe AH's testimony that Casey told her she was sleepwalking whatever that made up hoo hah was.. 400.00 is not chump change not even today.

    This relationship between Amy and Casey doesn't add up. I am only looking into 4/5 wks of their relationship. Did Amy have her parents wrapped around her finger too? $$$$ It all comes back to Caylee. Because at the time Casey had chosen her new "caretaker" Money Maker to fund her New life without Caylee " Amy".
     


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Curly on April 09, 2010, 01:10:55 AM
    In the first Robyn phone call (I'm only about 6 mins in), she just says Crzy is upset...but HER FRIEND is the one who tells her items found with the body can be tied back to the Ant farm.

    I'm listening now, but she didn't specify which items....at least not yet.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Curly on April 09, 2010, 01:12:30 AM
    Deenie:
          The bank repaid Shirley because no one was supposed to be allowed access to that account except her, of course.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: akmom on April 09, 2010, 01:18:20 AM
    Never fails !
    every inmate miracilously gets jailhouse religion. They find Jesus in jail where it's convenient for their case and their new look. But the minute they get released  they loose their religion like fleas jumping off their skin.

    I noticed she still has her potty mouth even when she writes about God "Daddy" in one sentence in the next sentence she is cursing.  Then she is waiting for the Rapture..when more and more children will go missing.

    She tries to show empathy for her friend..yet even her friend is stunned when she writes  how much she misses her kids and then Casey's replies are always about moving away..the two of them ..this time to Costa Rica.  LOL

    Oh, and how about  her telling Robyn she wants to "adopt" a child.....KC says she's always wanted to adopt a child from a foreign country, but has decided to adopt a US child when released from jail.
    God help our children!!

    It's mind boggling that this evil woman can even entertain the thoughts of having or adopting another child within what, months? of her own daughter kidnapped/murdered!!! (of course she knew Caylee was dead because she murdered her) I'm not sure of the time frame these letters were written, if Caylee's remains were found.

    Evil is too kind of a word to describe KC......IMO
    [/quote


    Late in the day and late in the discussion, but  the thought of her even thinking that she would pass the intense scrutiny required for an international adoption makes me want to strangle her.  I have done it several times over(I have told a couple of people here about my family).  Not a chance in hell even if our sweet Caylee were not in the arms of God our Father.  She would never have passed the muster.  Nor Spindy or George either


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: akmom on April 09, 2010, 01:21:13 AM
    Never fails !
    every inmate miracilously gets jailhouse religion. They find Jesus in jail where it's convenient for their case and their new look. But the minute they get released  they loose their religion like fleas jumping off their skin.

    I noticed she still has her potty mouth even when she writes about God "Daddy" in one sentence in the next sentence she is cursing.  Then she is waiting for the Rapture..when more and more children will go missing.

    She tries to show empathy for her friend..yet even her friend is stunned when she writes  how much she misses her kids and then Casey's replies are always about moving away..the two of them ..this time to Costa Rica.  LOL

    Oh, and how about  her telling Robyn she wants to "adopt" a child.....KC says she's always wanted to adopt a child from a foreign country, but has decided to adopt a US child when released from jail.
    God help our children!!

    It's mind boggling that this evil woman can even entertain the thoughts of having or adopting another child within what, months? of her own daughter kidnapped/murdered!!! (of course she knew Caylee was dead because she murdered her) I'm not sure of the time frame these letters were written, if Caylee's remains were found.

    Evil is too kind of a word to describe KC......IMO
    [/quote


    Late in the day and late in the discussion, but  the thought of her even thinking that she would pass the intense scrutiny required for an international adoption makes me want to strangle her.  I have done it several times over(I have told a couple of people here about my family).  Not a chance in hell even if our sweet Caylee were not in the arms of God our Father.  She would never have passed the muster.  Nor Spindy or George either

    Frack!!! sorry I got in your quote box


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 09, 2010, 01:30:58 AM
    Deenie  - Your work is great, and it is putting somethings in perspective.  I don't think anyone of KC's friends realized she did not work. She acted like she was doing her work on CA's laptop which she evidently carried with her.

    IIRC, KC acted like AH had roamed around in the night and hid the cash money and even acted like she was helping her look for it. I thought to myself at the time when it the chloroform came out that explained why AH was so "knocked out" as she said later and did not remember anything at all.  I also think I remember reading that AH had worked on a cruise ship in a specialized position for about 6-8 months to get her money. I remember thinking that she would have had plenty to spend as they are paid well because they are actually working 24/7.  I read somewhere at the time she would have been making about $900.00 per week and you really don't spend any money since everything is paid. (room, board, etc.)


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: akmom on April 09, 2010, 01:34:38 AM
    http://www.cayleedaily.com/
    Details of Casey Anthony Friendship Surface
    04/08/10


    Good Morning Monks!  thanks trim......I questioned the scissors as well...Ms. Hernandez gave an accused murdered a pair of scissors........and opened the cell door..........she is a danger to herself and the the jail....she needs to go.  IMO
    ::MonkeyEek:: I don't even know what to say. I also wanted to say that if Casey is making this up about George and Lee and the sexual abuse, I do feel sorry for both men to have such vile accusations thrown their way, that is horrible.

    I don't think she is making it up at all. I think there is even more there than she is telling yet. She has all the behaviors of a woman who was sexually abused as a young child. The excessive need to have men's attention no matter what the personal cost to her. Maybe the teen thing with Lee was a "learned" behavior or even a mimicked behavior. Kids in a family KNOW the family secrets and one child in a family will always act out the family secret. Then we have the adulterous behaviors of CA all within this time frame.

    Take a serious look/see at what we see in GA. He like KC has a love/hate relationship with CA.  He is a womanizer, has an addictive personality and evidently from info released has had problems with alcohol, gambling, and other addictive behaviors. Sexual addictions go right along with those addictive behaviors. They also had a very CLOSED family with no friends included in their household which is always indicative of some type of family secret. How many families do you know where there are teenagers and none of their friends come to their house? Something was very wrong in that family and I am going with my first gut instinct that there was some type of sexual malfeasance.



    I have to admit, that my first impression of KC was that of a sexually abused victim and my suspicions leaned toward GA. I may have felt that way in an effort to try and understand her behavior but at this point I still don’t know what to believe…
    I want to know too much. What I need is a thorough case history and lifetime detail on all the players involved in this tragedy. I want to know what their daily lives were like. I want to see inside their heads, know their thoughts that led to their actions. I want to know why so many of the players in this case have connections to each other and why too many things seem to be so very intertwined, then maybe I will know what happened and why. I want to take the red pill and see how deep the rabbit hole goes….Except there is no red pill, only my suspicions. The most I can hope for is justice. The unanswered questions as to motive and reason will remain even after the door locks behind the murderess. This case will haunt me as do many others. I won’t know the truth of what really happened and the why of it all.  Each of us will come to our own conclusion or accept the one given. Can it be as simple as a young person wanting to get even with her mother and be free?  That’s possible. Could it be the actions of a traumatized, compartmentalized sexually abused woman? That too could be possible and so could several other scenarios. Maybe I’ll never understand or believe the explanation for this crime because it doesn’t fit it into my own perception of how the world goes round. Maybe the problem of understanding lies with me. Maybe it really is that simple and I just don’t get it because it is beyond my logic and comprehension.


    You say a lot that I think, and that I cannot articulate


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Deenie on April 09, 2010, 01:40:43 AM
    Deenie:
          The bank repaid Shirley because no one was supposed to be allowed access to that account except her, of course.

    Hi Curly ~ Thank you,
    I have to go back and respectfully read everyone's posts that I missed. I tell you if I was a juror on this case I would not know what was up or down. I hope that who ever is picked for this case for trial that they have are ability to remained Focused. The facts are there. The forensics are there. Yet there is so much corruption tagged along within the cast of players. This to me is so complicated because there is more than one case - compounded within.

    Caylee's Death- Her Justice is Priority and should be the only priority.  My brain overworked -at the moment, I feel there is so much ongoing though behind the scenes "Illegal" that correlates with Caylee's death and after her death.... its enough to make one's head spin.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: akmom on April 09, 2010, 01:44:50 AM
    Deenie, you are a very smart monkey


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 09, 2010, 01:51:23 AM
    Deenie, Amy said she had worked on the cruise ship, Mariner of the Seas of the Royal Caribbean, then came back to Orlando to work at Houlihans and Orlando Repertory Theatre. Houlihans was a second job, because things were slow that summer in the theatre and she needed a job to pay her bills.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Deenie on April 09, 2010, 02:04:34 AM
    Deenie  - Your work is great, and it is putting somethings in perspective.  I don't think anyone of KC's friends realized she did not work. She acted like she was doing her work on CA's laptop which she evidently carried with her.

    IIRC, KC acted like AH had roamed around in the night and hid the cash money and even acted like she was helping her look for it. I thought to myself at the time when it the chloroform came out that explained why AH was so "knocked out" as she said later and did not remember anything at all.  I also think I remember reading that AH had worked on a cruise ship in a specialized position for about 6-8 months to get her money. I remember thinking that she would have had plenty to spend as they are paid well because they are actually working 24/7.  I read somewhere at the time she would have been making about $900.00 per week and you really don't spend any money since everything is paid. (room, board, etc.)
    Turbo  :2notworthy: In AH's statement/Interview to LE she says she woke up with a different pair of pants on, than she went to sleep with on. The so called cash was in the pants she fell asleep with on her body. I believe she is telling the truth on that - that is believable to me for one reason, as "messed up" as it sounds. It fits like she was slipped a mickey - when her $ was stolen. And Casey was with her that night and morning " Her Witness" told her/AH the story of you were sleepwalking ......side note on AH's behalf Who in their right mind would continue hanging around KC? knowing what they know of her ?? My sarcasm someone/AH that had a need to live a lifestyle of a bad B movie. I don't understand the give and take between AH and KC. Something was there and it was significant enough for AH to hang around.
    The pdf of AH's Statement (I don't have the brain power to find it)  link: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1642949/Huizenga-Amy---Statement/


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: bikerbev on April 09, 2010, 02:11:26 AM
    I knew about George cutting the umbilical cord but watched while the episiotomy was repaired I didn't know  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: I'm sorry but who allows their father to do that? I am very modest and that wouldn't happen in a million years, I'm speechless and grossed out.

    While Casey was being sewn up CA and GA were still in the room - that is how CA got to hold Caylee before Casey, which she always resented.
    I heard these pictures were 'out there' but I've never seen them.  Does anybody have them?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: bikerbev on April 09, 2010, 02:17:27 AM
    NRCG......check your nanners.

    In Lee's interview when they asked him about Casey's allegations, He said he would address that when the time was right or something close to those words.
    Thanks I will  ::MonkeyCool:: Is there a connection between the acne medication and Lee sleepwalking or whatever the heck he was doing and sitting by Casey's bed and staring at her? WTH
    maybe if we knew the name of it, we could google it?

    The acne med is accutane.  My daughter was on it.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 09, 2010, 02:20:33 AM
    I knew about George cutting the umbilical cord but watched while the episiotomy was repaired I didn't know  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: I'm sorry but who allows their father to do that? I am very modest and that wouldn't happen in a million years, I'm speechless and grossed out.

    While Casey was being sewn up CA and GA were still in the room - that is how CA got to hold Caylee before Casey, which she always resented.
    I heard these pictures were 'out there' but I've never seen them.  Does anybody have them?

    These are the two I have. Very small, but you get the idea:

    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/george2.jpg) (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/George.jpg)

    There may be some others out there, but I have not seen them. Don't want to, either.

     ::MonkeyNoNo::



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 09, 2010, 02:23:09 AM
    Deenie  - Your work is great, and it is putting somethings in perspective.  I don't think anyone of KC's friends realized she did not work. She acted like she was doing her work on CA's laptop which she evidently carried with her.

    IIRC, KC acted like AH had roamed around in the night and hid the cash money and even acted like she was helping her look for it. I thought to myself at the time when it the chloroform came out that explained why AH was so "knocked out" as she said later and did not remember anything at all.  I also think I remember reading that AH had worked on a cruise ship in a specialized position for about 6-8 months to get her money. I remember thinking that she would have had plenty to spend as they are paid well because they are actually working 24/7.  I read somewhere at the time she would have been making about $900.00 per week and you really don't spend any money since everything is paid. (room, board, etc.)
    Turbo  :2notworthy: In AH's statement/Interview to LE she says she woke up with a different pair of pants on, than she went to sleep with on. The so called cash was in the pants she fell asleep with on her body. I believe she is telling the truth on that - that is believable to me for one reason, as "messed up" as it sounds. It fits like she was slipped a mickey - when her $ was stolen. And Casey was with her that night and morning " Her Witness" told her/AH the story of you were sleepwalking ......side note on AH's behalf Who in their right mind would continue hanging around KC? knowing what they know of her ?? My sarcasm someone/AH that had a need to live a lifestyle of a bad B movie. I don't understand the give and take between AH and KC. Something was there and it was significant enough for AH to hang around.
    The pdf of AH's Statement (I don't have the brain power to find it)  link: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1642949/Huizenga-Amy---Statement/

    Ooopsie!! "you were sleep-walking"...that's what KC said to AH.

    Lee was sleep walking...is what KC told Robyn that Cindy said to her. 

    These are KC's words that she said to AH months before she wrote them in a letter to Robyn...now seems doubtful to me that they were Cindy's words.





    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Deenie on April 09, 2010, 02:27:01 AM
    Deenie, you are a very smart monkey
    AK I have read some of your posts in the last few days and I have to agree with your words as well. This is all so complex. The Focus is and always is Caylee. HOLY Moly though all of this that has come out within Casey's personality. It all links to the early days of question. Now that we can make a thought process out of  Casey/Sociopath + ? personalities .. she has many. I don't for a minute think she is insane. Its all her adopted/adapted personalities coming forward. The personality traits she has created along the way - in order to manipulate others.
    Brandi I see you here- You as well do not believe Casey is insane. I think Casey is Crazy like a Fox. Not insane though. 

    The allegations of GA/LA molesting her. I don't know what to think. I am not able to say yes or no on that. I will say though if she is using it as a tactic/lying about it - She deserves to be charged for those allegations, 2nd to Caylee's murder.
    I have not one once of care for either GA/LA.
    NO One on this planet should ever be called out as a Molester of a Child if its untrue. That is the kiss of death. But KC knows that too.
    I think that GA is a scum bag. I think he lies so much he doesn't know the truth - even without everything said of his character or lack there of character - He GA has displayed himself for the whole world to see - When a Man cannot stand up for a innocent Child * his GD or otherwise- that has been harmed/Murdered -that is the day I deem him Scum. I think LA has been conditioned by his parents - not by his environment solely. I do believe he knows what is right from wrong. But He same same will do anything in order to protect himself.



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: akmom on April 09, 2010, 02:35:16 AM
    Deenie, you are a very smart monkey
    AK I have read some of your posts in the last few days and I have to agree with your words as well. This is all so complex. The Focus is and always is Caylee. HOLY Moly though all of this that has come out within Casey's personality. It all links to the early days of question. Now that we can make a thought process out of  Casey/Sociopath + ? personalities .. she has many. I don't for a minute think she is insane. Its all her adopted/adapted personalities coming forward. The personality traits she has created along the way - in order to manipulate others.
    Brandi I see you here- You as well do not believe Casey is insane. I think Casey is Crazy like a Fox. Not insane though. 

    The allegations of GA/LA molesting her. I don't know what to think. I am not able to say yes or no on that. I will say though if she is using it as a tactic/lying about it - She deserves to be charged for those allegations, 2nd to Caylee's murder.
    I have not one once of care for either GA/LA.
    NO One on this planet should ever be called out as a Molester of a Child if its untrue. That is the kiss of death. But KC knows that too.
    I think that GA is a scum bag. I think he lies so much he doesn't know the truth - even without everything said of his character or lack there of character - He GA has displayed himself for the whole world to see - When a Man cannot stand up for a innocent Child * his GD or otherwise- that has been harmed/Murdered -that is the day I deem him Scum. I think LA has been conditioned by his parents - not by his environment solely. I do believe he knows what is right from wrong. But He same same will do anything in order to protect himself.



    Good night Deenie and the rest of you monkeys still here.  I feel a kinship with you all.  Isn't it odd that many times we find ourselves unable to sleep or just go on with our days, without checking in on these cases.  We continue to care, while those closest, who should have kept these missing  or murdered safe carry on as if nothing ever happened.  I will never understand...


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 09, 2010, 02:37:36 AM
    Good night, akmom!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Rowanvamp0 on April 09, 2010, 02:39:02 AM
    She's saying she is having seizures in her sleep.  WTH?  Like how would she know if she's asleep!  My mid son had a few grand mal seizures just before waking up, when he was very young, and he never remembered those.  Only way I even knew about them was cuz I had gone in there to wake him up for school and found him having a seizure.  I kinda *doubt* that Casey was having seizures.  If anything am thinking she was biting her tongue, breaking out in a sweat, etc.. in having nightmares from what she did to Caylee.    IMO





    Just catching up here on post been reading away like most of you and I gotta say Wyks you nailed it on the head..can we get an "AMEN".  I too suffer from epilepsy and NONE let me repeat NONE of it sounds like an episode to me..I have been diagnosed since I was 2 from Grand mal to petite mal as I got older and I have never ONCE bit my tongue in all of my life.  Not to get into to much detail but it runs on my mom's side so my grandmom, aunt and my mom and I have it and again NONE let me repeat that(Saying it sarcastically) in case you all didn't hear me NONE of us have bitten our tongues or have we broke out in a sweat. UGGHHH I could go on but I won't unless any of you want to know what a seizure looks like then I can give you a description and not because I have had one but because it runs in my family and I've seen it!  Then again I'm sure you monkeys can also read on the net about epilepsy we aren't stupid as the defense likes to think we are.  Sorry to rant just this part of the so called story she wrote not only hurts me but Caylee and every one else that suffers from this disease!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Brandi on April 09, 2010, 02:45:07 AM
    Welp, I am outta here for the night.

    I answered your question about Amy's employment, Deenie. I don't know if you saw or not. I looked it up in her statement to LE for you.

    Good night all.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Deenie on April 09, 2010, 02:48:13 AM
    WOW I totally forgot about GA in the hospital -When Caylee was born.

    I was 24 when I had my Daughter. I was a single Mom and had no ties to my Daughter's Father. He was/is such a pos but - He promised he would be my labor coach. He never showed up. So my Brother said he would be my labor coach out of his heart ..then he thought about it. He didn't show up either. So I was left the only " single" pregnant woman at Lamaze - The instructor was gracious enough to be my partner as she taught the class. There was many couples there too. Yet she focused in on me and gave me her personal attention - her words I have to say stuck in my head when I was in labor.
    I had a very difficult labor. I was 11 days out past my due date and had to be induced. I was in hard labor for 17 hours- My Brother who was a Corpsman, worked in ER, Was a EMT, Surgical Tech came into my room when I was around the 11th hour of my labor - All I remember was his face dipping in to get a glance of Me - He walked out of the room. My Mother was with me. My Mom followed him out into the Hall. He was squatted on the floor with his head between his knees.  He said ARE YOU KIDDING ME ..trying to breath. He said I can't look at my sister in that much pain. He never came back in - he left. My Dad also a Corpsman - Medical background up the wazoo. He was not in the room for my labor. I know why too - same reason as my Brother. My Dad would have passed out. He came after my Daughter was born. He held her the next day, she was 14 hours old, He cried and held her loved her and etc..that is normal Papa behavior.

    This with GA and his wanting to be so Intimate with Casey with her labor/birth of Caylee - blows my ever loving mind.



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Deenie on April 09, 2010, 02:49:02 AM
    Welp, I am outta here for the night.

    I answered your question about Amy's employment, Deenie. I don't know if you saw or not. I looked it up in her statement to LE for you.

    Good night all.
    I got it Brandi thank you so much.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Deenie on April 09, 2010, 02:58:50 AM
    I knew about George cutting the umbilical cord but watched while the episiotomy was repaired I didn't know  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: I'm sorry but who allows their father to do that? I am very modest and that wouldn't happen in a million years, I'm speechless and grossed out.

    While Casey was being sewn up CA and GA were still in the room - that is how CA got to hold Caylee before Casey, which she always resented.
    I heard these pictures were 'out there' but I've never seen them.  Does anybody have them?

    These are the two I have. Very small, but you get the idea:

    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/george2.jpg) (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/George.jpg)

    There may be some others out there, but I have not seen them. Don't want to, either.

     ::MonkeyNoNo::
    I agree with NoRose, Brandi & others - Disturbing beyond


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 09, 2010, 02:59:25 AM
    WOW I totally forgot about GA in the hospital -When Caylee was born.

    I was 24 when I had my Daughter. I was a single Mom and had no ties to my Daughter's Father. He was/is such a pos but - He promised he would be my labor coach. He never showed up. So my Brother said he would be my labor coach out of his heart ..then he thought about it. He didn't show up either. So I was left the only " single" pregnant woman at Lamaze - The instructor was gracious enough to be my partner as she taught the class. There was many couples there too. Yet she focused in on me and gave me her personal attention - her words I have to say stuck in my head when I was in labor.
    I had a very difficult labor. I was 11 days out past my due date and had to be induced. I was in hard labor for 17 hours- My Brother who was a Corpsman, worked in ER, Was a EMT, Surgical Tech came into my room when I was around the 11th hour of my labor - All I remember was his face dipping in to get a glance of Me - He walked out of the room. My Mother was with me. My Mom followed him out into the Hall. He was squatted on the floor with his head between his knees.  He said ARE YOU KIDDING ME ..trying to breath. He said I can't look at my sister in that much pain. He never came back in - he left. My Dad also a Corpsman - Medical background up the wazoo. He was not in the room for my labor. I know why too - same reason as my Brother. My Dad would have passed out. He came after my Daughter was born. He held her the next day, she was 14 hours old, He cried and held her loved her and etc..that is normal Papa behavior.

    This with GA and his wanting to be so Intimate with Casey with her labor/birth of Caylee - blows my ever loving mind.



    Deenie...GA wanting to be so intimate with Casey during her labor/birth of Caylee blows my mind, too...always has.

    Did you see my comments about "you were sleepwalking"?



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: bikerbev on April 09, 2010, 03:20:48 AM
    I knew about George cutting the umbilical cord but watched while the episiotomy was repaired I didn't know  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: I'm sorry but who allows their father to do that? I am very modest and that wouldn't happen in a million years, I'm speechless and grossed out.

    While Casey was being sewn up CA and GA were still in the room - that is how CA got to hold Caylee before Casey, which she always resented.
    I heard these pictures were 'out there' but I've never seen them.  Does anybody have them?

    These are the two I have. Very small, but you get the idea:

    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/george2.jpg) (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/George.jpg)

    There may be some others out there, but I have not seen them. Don't want to, either.

     ::MonkeyNoNo::


    LOL...Thank you!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Wyks on April 09, 2010, 03:35:18 AM
    She's saying she is having seizures in her sleep.  WTH?  Like how would she know if she's asleep!  My mid son had a few grand mal seizures just before waking up, when he was very young, and he never remembered those.  Only way I even knew about them was cuz I had gone in there to wake him up for school and found him having a seizure.  I kinda *doubt* that Casey was having seizures.  If anything am thinking she was biting her tongue, breaking out in a sweat, etc.. in having nightmares from what she did to Caylee.    IMO

    Just catching up here on post been reading away like most of you and I gotta say Wyks you nailed it on the head..can we get an "AMEN".  I too suffer from epilepsy and NONE let me repeat NONE of it sounds like an episode to me..I have been diagnosed since I was 2 from Grand mal to petite mal as I got older and I have never ONCE bit my tongue in all of my life.  Not to get into to much detail but it runs on my mom's side so my grandmom, aunt and my mom and I have it and again NONE let me repeat that(Saying it sarcastically) in case you all didn't hear me NONE of us have bitten our tongues or have we broke out in a sweat. UGGHHH I could go on but I won't unless any of you want to know what a seizure looks like then I can give you a description and not because I have had one but because it runs in my family and I've seen it!  Then again I'm sure you monkeys can also read on the net about epilepsy we aren't stupid as the defense likes to think we are.  Sorry to rant just this part of the so called story she wrote not only hurts me but Caylee and every one else that suffers from this disease!

    Thanks for sharing that, Rowan.  And I agree with you too, none of what she mentioned sounded like what actually goes on with a seizure.  Plus the fact that when having these types of seizures while asleep just as one awakens, rarely if ever does one remember even having the episode.  My son never did.  I'm not even sure how many he had in those early years, likely more than those I witnessed.  The person is exhausted afterward tho, and Casey didn't mention that.  It does as you say, hurts those who truly suffer with seizures.  As if she is mocking the painful experience with her lies. 

     


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Deenie on April 09, 2010, 04:21:18 AM
     ::MonkeyEek::

    Between Rick Plesea's statements of his Wedding weekend - CA/GA's denial that KC was PG - 7 mos cough/ to not only Rick but to Shirley ..and Guests at Rick's wedding.. who could clearly see Casey was pregnant.

    That Cindy or George said to Rick " OH No in order for Casey to be Pregnant she would have had to had Sex " Casey's so called words exchanged with her parents ....... OK? Caylee didn't pop out of nowhere in August less than 2 months later.....she evidently was not a tumor.

    I am not insinuating anything that has not already been said. But going back to George and his depth of presence/he felt was "right" or was it him feeling a Moral responsibility ( Ouch and Uck) within Caylee's birth .. just makes one ponder. I pray that this could not be ever considered. But the scenario of everything said /unknown to be true/issues of allegations - it does make one Think. The fact that Cindy filed for Divorce on GA that Dec 05. ?? Was that due to a confession that Casey made or ?. I am not trying to create a stir but within all that Casey has said in her letters. Caylee was born Aug 9, 2005. The resemblance is there. I have read and found it to be true that " 60+% of the time - The first child born favors the Father more so than the Mother in features. I know my Daughter is almost a carbon copy of her Dad. 

    He and I being estranged. He sued me. He took took me to court for paternity tests.
    I said Go for it. Rock n Roll.  They/Clinic took blood when my D was 6 mos old.  That was the first time " He" saw her.  He never even actually looked at her. They took his blood first, mine 2nd, and then they used a butterfly on my 6mos old baby girls arm- they didn't poke her finger or her toe. Oh I was so Upset. She screamed and was terrified and I was crying because of HIM and he was sitting in the next room. Not a care, didn't even look at her.
    The results came back to me from the Atty notarized legal letter  - 99.976 Proof Positive that he was her Father. Did I jump and down " No" I knew what I already knew. He still tried to contest it that is how ignorant Men are when it comes right down to their wallet. Going back - after the Blood results came back in a percentage. I was sent a copy of Chromosome match. It was a long legal paper - of matrix. It was broken down- my Daughter/HIM/Myself. My atty was astounded and said to me on the phone. I have never seen on paper - a child matching the father almost identical in chromosomes. She said its almost as he gave birth to her. And they are in Life a Carbon Copy of each other. They have the same personality/traits/features " copied". They walk alike, laugh alike -same mannerisms. Yet have not had a long term established relationship. I have known my Daughters Father since I was 12 yrs old. She does not know how to mimic him via knowing him. Its all her and him genetic.
    Nature vs Nurture the big question that has always been since the time of man.




    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 09, 2010, 07:30:05 AM
    http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
    Is Casey’s Diary Important?
    Posted on April 9th, 2010 by JWG


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 09, 2010, 08:25:05 AM
    http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/jailhouse-confections-part-1/
    Jailhouse Confections, Part 1
    April 7, 2010 · 357 Comments


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 08:27:21 AM
    http://drlillianglass.com/body-language-blog/

    George Anthony’s Courtroom Gum Chomping, Affair, Alleged Prior Knowledge of Caylee’s Death and Casey’s Alleged Sexual Molestation Claims Paint Him as a TOXIC MAN
    April 8th, 2010

    Good Morning Monks  ::dogwag:: the good doc seems to be just a little riled up!  ::MonkeyJnBox::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: katsclown on April 09, 2010, 08:35:12 AM
    http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/orange_news/040810-Phone-calls-of-Anthony-pen-pal-released

    Jail telephone recordings of Anthony pen pal released

    Updated: Thursday, 08 Apr 2010, 10:01 PM EDT
    Published : Thursday, 08 Apr 2010, 9:43 PM EDT

    ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - It’s perhaps a rare look inside the mind of Casey Anthony, as interpreted by a jail pen pal.

    FOX 35 has obtained audio recordings in which inmate Robyn Adams talks to family and friends from behind bars about Anthony and conversations with the 24 year old accused of murdering her daughter, Caylee Marie.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 09, 2010, 08:37:49 AM
    http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/8/zenaidas_lawyers_want_to_talk_with_caseys_pen_pal.html
     Zenaida’s Lawyers Want To Talk With Casey’s Pen Pal
    Thursday, April 08, 2010 7:14:21 PM
    Reported by Jacqueline Fell

    ORLANDO -- Attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez now want to talk with Casey Anthony's jailhouse pen pal in their civil case against Anthony.

    Gonzalez said Anthony ruined her reputation when she said "Zanny the Nanny" kidnapped her daughter.

    But Anthony's pen pal said Casey admitted there was no Zanny.
    Investigators interviewed Robyn Adams, who is the fellow inmate Anthony spoke to in jail and exchanged letters with.

    Adams said Anthony told her that Zenaida was the first name of a childhood friend.

    Attorney's representing Gonzalez told News 13 they want to talk with Adams, who is now in a federal prison.

    Gonzalez is suing Anthony for defamation.

    A trial date is set for May.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: monkalicious on April 09, 2010, 08:59:24 AM
    Good morning, Monkeys!  Just started listening to the phone calls from Robyn.  Did anyone notice that the nickname was "Muffin"?  Isn't that the name Casey signed in her letters?  So is this part of Casey trying to ingratiate herself, or be part of the cool clique?  I always see her as trying to get accepted by the popular crowd, but she inevitably does something stupid, like lying, or stealing, to screw it up.  She just can't help herself...
     ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 09:18:39 AM
    Good morning, Monkeys!  Just started listening to the phone calls from Robyn.  Did anyone notice that the nickname was "Muffin"?  Isn't that the name Casey signed in her letters?  So is this part of Casey trying to ingratiate herself, or be part of the cool clique?  I always see her as trying to get accepted by the popular crowd, but she inevitably does something stupid, like lying, or stealing, to screw it up.  She just can't help herself...
     ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Sounds to me she was inserting herself to replace Robyn's friend that was free, at least that is how it appears...it also fits her pattern.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Sassycat on April 09, 2010, 09:25:49 AM
    I agree! And leave the cell phones out of the courtroom. I think the time before this last hearing, Cindy was busy texting while waiting for court to begin. That the heck?!

    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image8-2.png)

    I don't get this.   In Maryland, you can't get into a courthouse with a cell phone, even if you're only going there to get a marriage license or something that only takes a few minutes,  nevermind sitting in a hearing.   The guards at the security checkpoint/metal detector will not allow it.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: monkalicious on April 09, 2010, 09:27:36 AM
    Good morning, Monkeys!  Just started listening to the phone calls from Robyn.  Did anyone notice that the nickname was "Muffin"?  Isn't that the name Casey signed in her letters?  So is this part of Casey trying to ingratiate herself, or be part of the cool clique?  I always see her as trying to get accepted by the popular crowd, but she inevitably does something stupid, like lying, or stealing, to screw it up.  She just can't help herself...
     ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Sounds to me she was inserting herself to replace Robyn's friend that was free, at least that is how it appears...it also fits her pattern.

    I agree, Capp.  I find it unsettling that she calls Robyn her sister so quickly.  Just add water, and instant BFF! 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Sassycat on April 09, 2010, 09:29:22 AM
    Good morning, Monkeys!  Just started listening to the phone calls from Robyn.  Did anyone notice that the nickname was "Muffin"?  Isn't that the name Casey signed in her letters?  So is this part of Casey trying to ingratiate herself, or be part of the cool clique?  I always see her as trying to get accepted by the popular crowd, but she inevitably does something stupid, like lying, or stealing, to screw it up.  She just can't help herself...
     ::MonkeyNoNo::


     ::MonkeyHaHa::    Yep, I noticed it.   I was confused because I thought she was on the phone with KC at first.  I guess KC has to steal everything from her friends,  even names!   


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 09:29:39 AM
    Deenie  - Your work is great, and it is putting somethings in perspective.  I don't think anyone of KC's friends realized she did not work. She acted like she was doing her work on CA's laptop which she evidently carried with her.

    IIRC, KC acted like AH had roamed around in the night and hid the cash money and even acted like she was helping her look for it. I thought to myself at the time when it the chloroform came out that explained why AH was so "knocked out" as she said later and did not remember anything at all.  I also think I remember reading that AH had worked on a cruise ship in a specialized position for about 6-8 months to get her money. I remember thinking that she would have had plenty to spend as they are paid well because they are actually working 24/7.  I read somewhere at the time she would have been making about $900.00 per week and you really don't spend any money since everything is paid. (room, board, etc.)
    Turbo  :2notworthy: In AH's statement/Interview to LE she says she woke up with a different pair of pants on, than she went to sleep with on. The so called cash was in the pants she fell asleep with on her body. I believe she is telling the truth on that - that is believable to me for one reason, as "messed up" as it sounds. It fits like she was slipped a mickey - when her $ was stolen. And Casey was with her that night and morning " Her Witness" told her/AH the story of you were sleepwalking ......side note on AH's behalf Who in their right mind would continue hanging around KC? knowing what they know of her ?? My sarcasm someone/AH that had a need to live a lifestyle of a bad B movie. I don't understand the give and take between AH and KC. Something was there and it was significant enough for AH to hang around.
    The pdf of AH's Statement (I don't have the brain power to find it)  link: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1642949/Huizenga-Amy---Statement/

    Ooopsie!! "you were sleep-walking"...that's what KC said to AH.

    Lee was sleep walking...is what KC told Robyn that Cindy said to her. 

    These are KC's words that she said to AH months before she wrote them in a letter to Robyn...now seems doubtful to me that they were Cindy's words.



    Puzzler, you nailed it...a pattern.  Just like "Zanny the nanny" was used way back with Jesse & his family but she was a lie then too.    The pattern of when she used her victim story is apparent as well, even with Jesse & Tony it was when needed to manipulate because she sensed that they were getting frustrated with her as well as questioning her actions.   Jesse also mentioned that he thinks Casey stole money from his as well, I guess he was sleep walking too  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: monkalicious on April 09, 2010, 09:30:01 AM
    I agree! And leave the cell phones out of the courtroom. I think the time before this last hearing, Cindy was busy texting while waiting for court to begin. That the heck?!

    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image8-2.png)

    I don't get this.   In Maryland, you can't get into a courthouse with a cell phone, even if you're only going there to get a marriage license or something that only takes a few minutes,  nevermind sitting in a hearing.   The guards at the security checkpoint/metal detector will not allow it.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
    But, didn't you know?  These are the ANTHONYS!  The rules everyone else has to follow don't apply to them.  I just want to slap the gum right out of their mouths.  Please Judge S., take a stand and quit letting them disrespect the court.
     ::MonkeyGavel::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: monkalicious on April 09, 2010, 09:31:27 AM
    Good morning, Monkeys!  Just started listening to the phone calls from Robyn.  Did anyone notice that the nickname was "Muffin"?  Isn't that the name Casey signed in her letters?  So is this part of Casey trying to ingratiate herself, or be part of the cool clique?  I always see her as trying to get accepted by the popular crowd, but she inevitably does something stupid, like lying, or stealing, to screw it up.  She just can't help herself...
     ::MonkeyNoNo::


     ::MonkeyHaHa::    Yep, I noticed it.   I was confused because I thought she was on the phone with KC at first.  I guess KC has to steal everything from her friends,  even names!   
    Good one, Sassy!
     ::MonkeyCheer4::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 09:37:12 AM
    I knew about George cutting the umbilical cord but watched while the episiotomy was repaired I didn't know  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: I'm sorry but who allows their father to do that? I am very modest and that wouldn't happen in a million years, I'm speechless and grossed out.

    While Casey was being sewn up CA and GA were still in the room - that is how CA got to hold Caylee before Casey, which she always resented.
    I heard these pictures were 'out there' but I've never seen them.  Does anybody have them?

    These are the two I have. Very small, but you get the idea:

    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/george2.jpg) (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/George.jpg)

    There may be some others out there, but I have not seen them. Don't want to, either.

     ::MonkeyNoNo::

    me neither..............this is so sick IMO...sick!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 09:37:33 AM
    I agree! And leave the cell phones out of the courtroom. I think the time before this last hearing, Cindy was busy texting while waiting for court to begin. That the heck?!

    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image8-2.png)

    I don't get this.   In Maryland, you can't get into a courthouse with a cell phone, even if you're only going there to get a marriage license or something that only takes a few minutes,  nevermind sitting in a hearing.   The guards at the security checkpoint/metal detector will not allow it.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

    The general rules are that sound be shut off during a proceeding, Ive gotten in many courtrooms with one.    Not to make light of this but check out the woman behind her in the pink cardigan leaning in to try and take a peak at what Cindy is doing...Im sure that would be most of us as well if we were right behind them.    There is something sinister about Cindy's new friends face that is captured in this pic....sheeps that flock ya know.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 09:38:32 AM
    Deenie, you are a very smart monkey
    AK I have read some of your posts in the last few days and I have to agree with your words as well. This is all so complex. The Focus is and always is Caylee. HOLY Moly though all of this that has come out within Casey's personality. It all links to the early days of question. Now that we can make a thought process out of  Casey/Sociopath + ? personalities .. she has many. I don't for a minute think she is insane. Its all her adopted/adapted personalities coming forward. The personality traits she has created along the way - in order to manipulate others.
    Brandi I see you here- You as well do not believe Casey is insane. I think Casey is Crazy like a Fox. Not insane though. 

    The allegations of GA/LA molesting her. I don't know what to think. I am not able to say yes or no on that. I will say though if she is using it as a tactic/lying about it - She deserves to be charged for those allegations, 2nd to Caylee's murder.
    I have not one once of care for either GA/LA.
    NO One on this planet should ever be called out as a Molester of a Child if its untrue. That is the kiss of death. But KC knows that too.
    I think that GA is a scum bag. I think he lies so much he doesn't know the truth - even without everything said of his character or lack there of character - He GA has displayed himself for the whole world to see - When a Man cannot stand up for a innocent Child * his GD or otherwise- that has been harmed/Murdered -that is the day I deem him Scum. I think LA has been conditioned by his parents - not by his environment solely. I do believe he knows what is right from wrong. But He same same will do anything in order to protect himself.

    Deenie, it is so good to have you back.  I love how your mind works!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 09:38:49 AM
    Good morning, Monkeys!  Just started listening to the phone calls from Robyn.  Did anyone notice that the nickname was "Muffin"?  Isn't that the name Casey signed in her letters?  So is this part of Casey trying to ingratiate herself, or be part of the cool clique?  I always see her as trying to get accepted by the popular crowd, but she inevitably does something stupid, like lying, or stealing, to screw it up.  She just can't help herself...
     ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Sounds to me she was inserting herself to replace Robyn's friend that was free, at least that is how it appears...it also fits her pattern.

    I agree, Capp.  I find it unsettling that she calls Robyn her sister so quickly.  Just add water, and instant BFF! 


    MONK!   OMG, pass me the bounty, my coffee spewed & made a mess of my puter screen...so true & absolutely hysterical!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 09:40:14 AM
    She's saying she is having seizures in her sleep.  WTH?  Like how would she know if she's asleep!  My mid son had a few grand mal seizures just before waking up, when he was very young, and he never remembered those.  Only way I even knew about them was cuz I had gone in there to wake him up for school and found him having a seizure.  I kinda *doubt* that Casey was having seizures.  If anything am thinking she was biting her tongue, breaking out in a sweat, etc.. in having nightmares from what she did to Caylee.    IMO





    Just catching up here on post been reading away like most of you and I gotta say Wyks you nailed it on the head..can we get an "AMEN".  I too suffer from epilepsy and NONE let me repeat NONE of it sounds like an episode to me..I have been diagnosed since I was 2 from Grand mal to petite mal as I got older and I have never ONCE bit my tongue in all of my life.  Not to get into to much detail but it runs on my mom's side so my grandmom, aunt and my mom and I have it and again NONE let me repeat that(Saying it sarcastically) in case you all didn't hear me NONE of us have bitten our tongues or have we broke out in a sweat. UGGHHH I could go on but I won't unless any of you want to know what a seizure looks like then I can give you a description and not because I have had one but because it runs in my family and I've seen it!  Then again I'm sure you monkeys can also read on the net about epilepsy we aren't stupid as the defense likes to think we are.  Sorry to rant just this part of the so called story she wrote not only hurts me but Caylee and every one else that suffers from this disease!

    ROW...thanks for sharing your experiences.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Sassycat on April 09, 2010, 09:45:15 AM
    I agree! And leave the cell phones out of the courtroom. I think the time before this last hearing, Cindy was busy texting while waiting for court to begin. That the heck?!

    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image8-2.png)

    I don't get this.   In Maryland, you can't get into a courthouse with a cell phone, even if you're only going there to get a marriage license or something that only takes a few minutes,  nevermind sitting in a hearing.   The guards at the security checkpoint/metal detector will not allow it.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

    The general rules are that sound be shut off during a proceeding, Ive gotten in many courtrooms with one.    Not to make light of this but check out the woman behind her in the pink cardigan leaning in to try and take a peak at what Cindy is doing...Im sure that would be most of us as well if we were right behind them.    There is something sinister about Cindy's new friends face that is captured in this pic....sheeps that flock ya know.

    That's not the general rule in Maryland.   Here it is no cells, period.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 09:46:19 AM
    http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
    Is Casey’s Diary Important?
    Posted on April 9th, 2010 by JWG

    thanks trim....I like both Val and JWG's thoughts... I believe it was written around the time of Caylee's death as well....I hope there is someway to prove that sin-cin wrote 2003 in it.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 09, 2010, 09:46:22 AM
    Good morning, Monkeys!  Just started listening to the phone calls from Robyn.  Did anyone notice that the nickname was "Muffin"?  Isn't that the name Casey signed in her letters?  So is this part of Casey trying to ingratiate herself, or be part of the cool clique?  I always see her as trying to get accepted by the popular crowd, but she inevitably does something stupid, like lying, or stealing, to screw it up.  She just can't help herself...
     ::MonkeyNoNo::


     ::MonkeyHaHa::    Yep, I noticed it.   I was confused because I thought she was on the phone with KC at first.  I guess KC has to steal everything from her friends,  even names!   
    Good one, Sassy!
     ::MonkeyCheer4::

     ::MonkeyJnBox::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 09:51:16 AM
    WOW I totally forgot about GA in the hospital -When Caylee was born.

    I was 24 when I had my Daughter. I was a single Mom and had no ties to my Daughter's Father. He was/is such a pos but - He promised he would be my labor coach. He never showed up. So my Brother said he would be my labor coach out of his heart ..then he thought about it. He didn't show up either. So I was left the only " single" pregnant woman at Lamaze - The instructor was gracious enough to be my partner as she taught the class. There was many couples there too. Yet she focused in on me and gave me her personal attention - her words I have to say stuck in my head when I was in labor.
    I had a very difficult labor. I was 11 days out past my due date and had to be induced. I was in hard labor for 17 hours- My Brother who was a Corpsman, worked in ER, Was a EMT, Surgical Tech came into my room when I was around the 11th hour of my labor - All I remember was his face dipping in to get a glance of Me - He walked out of the room. My Mother was with me. My Mom followed him out into the Hall. He was squatted on the floor with his head between his knees.  He said ARE YOU KIDDING ME ..trying to breath. He said I can't look at my sister in that much pain. He never came back in - he left. My Dad also a Corpsman - Medical background up the wazoo. He was not in the room for my labor. I know why too - same reason as my Brother. My Dad would have passed out. He came after my Daughter was born. He held her the next day, she was 14 hours old, He cried and held her loved her and etc..that is normal Papa behavior.

    This with GA and his wanting to be so Intimate with Casey with her labor/birth of Caylee - blows my ever loving mind.


    Mine too  ::MonkeyEek:: Something is so off with that. Am I wrong, but didn't Jesse think that the baby was his, and he was in the hospital? If he was in the hospital, shouldn't he have been in the delivery room?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 09:55:05 AM
    Thanks for all the updates, I don't know if I have the strength to listen to the phone calls  ::MonkeyEek::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 09:57:06 AM
    I knew about George cutting the umbilical cord but watched while the episiotomy was repaired I didn't know  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: I'm sorry but who allows their father to do that? I am very modest and that wouldn't happen in a million years, I'm speechless and grossed out.

    While Casey was being sewn up CA and GA were still in the room - that is how CA got to hold Caylee before Casey, which she always resented.
    I heard these pictures were 'out there' but I've never seen them.  Does anybody have them?

    These are the two I have. Very small, but you get the idea:

    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/george2.jpg) (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/George.jpg)

    There may be some others out there, but I have not seen them. Don't want to, either.

     ::MonkeyNoNo::

    me neither..............this is so sick IMO...sick!!

    George cut the cord, Cindy held Caylee first before the mother (Casey to this day carries resentment toward that fact)...this is just as much about possession, a twisted idea of what Caylee beyond being a grandchild would be to both George & Cindy.   From day one they were inserting themselves to be more than grandparents.   These people may have thought they loved Caylee, but moreover they loved the idea of what it would mean to them  more.   They may have had some false hope that a baby would fix all their family dysfunction or that this would be the tie that they could control their unruly daughter with.   They embraced being proud grandparents instead of facing the fact that they had a  ho for a daughter that had no regard for anyone or anything...poor Caylee didnt stand a chance with any of them.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 09:59:08 AM

    ]Mine too  ::MonkeyEek:: Something is so off with that. Am I wrong, but didn't Jesse think that the baby was his, and he was in the hospital? If he was in the hospital, shouldn't he have been in the delivery room?

    If memory serves, Cindy controlled Jesse's access or lack thereof.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 09:59:37 AM
    Thanks for all the updates, I don't know if I have the strength to listen to the phone calls  ::MonkeyEek::

    Actually, there were only two posted


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 09, 2010, 10:00:08 AM
    http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
    Is Casey’s Diary Important?
    Posted on April 9th, 2010 by JWG

    thanks trim....I like both Val and JWG's thoughts... I believe it was written around the time of Caylee's death as well....I hope there is someway to prove that sin-cin wrote 2003 in it.

    I agree,and I hope so too. 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 10:01:28 AM
    I agree! And leave the cell phones out of the courtroom. I think the time before this last hearing, Cindy was busy texting while waiting for court to begin. That the heck?!

    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image8-2.png)

    I don't get this.   In Maryland, you can't get into a courthouse with a cell phone, even if you're only going there to get a marriage license or something that only takes a few minutes,  nevermind sitting in a hearing.   The guards at the security checkpoint/metal detector will not allow it.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

    The general rules are that sound be shut off during a proceeding, Ive gotten in many courtrooms with one.    Not to make light of this but check out the woman behind her in the pink cardigan leaning in to try and take a peak at what Cindy is doing...Im sure that would be most of us as well if we were right behind them.    There is something sinister about Cindy's new friends face that is captured in this pic....sheeps that flock ya know.

    That's not the general rule in Maryland.   Here it is no cells, period.

    Some states probably follow Maryland as well, especially after 911.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 10:06:49 AM
    So Cindy blocked access for Jesse to be there, if I would have been Jesse I would have blocked access for Cindy and George to be there. He should have been in that room helping with the baby he thought was his. This is beyond disturbing to me. And this nonsense about Cindy holding Caylee first, I can't even remember who held either of my babies first, and it did nothing to me and bonding with them.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 10:07:56 AM
    http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/jailhouse-confections-part-1/
    Jailhouse Confections, Part 1
    April 7, 2010 · 357 Comments

    thanks trim.....I am not a fan of marinadebrain......here's an example

    Herein lies a dilemma. In her interview, inmate Maya Derkovic talked about Casey using something to knock Caylee out, but she was not specific about what drugs she used to do that. Melich wrote, “Casey Anthony never mentioned what she used to put Caylee Anthony to sleep.”

    But also in his investigative summary, Melich reported something completely different coming from inmate Robyn Adams. “Caylee Anthony had trouble sleeping and she had to use chloroform to put her to sleep. Casey Anthony implied her mother may have brought the chloroform home when she worked at a local clinic.”

    Those are contradictory words written by Melich.


    Hello???  mushbrain.....Melich reported/summarized what he was told by 2 different people.......???? 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 10:08:49 AM
    http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/8/zenaidas_lawyers_want_to_talk_with_caseys_pen_pal.html
     Zenaida’s Lawyers Want To Talk With Casey’s Pen Pal
    Thursday, April 08, 2010 7:14:21 PM
    Reported by Jacqueline Fell

    ORLANDO -- Attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez now want to talk with Casey Anthony's jailhouse pen pal in their civil case against Anthony.

    Gonzalez said Anthony ruined her reputation when she said "Zanny the Nanny" kidnapped her daughter.

    But Anthony's pen pal said Casey admitted there was no Zanny.
    Investigators interviewed Robyn Adams, who is the fellow inmate Anthony spoke to in jail and exchanged letters with.

    Adams said Anthony told her that Zenaida was the first name of a childhood friend.

    Attorney's representing Gonzalez told News 13 they want to talk with Adams, who is now in a federal prison.

    Gonzalez is suing Anthony for defamation.

    A trial date is set for May.

    hahahahaha...GO MORGAN!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 10:11:49 AM
    I wondered when Morgan was going to say something  ::MonkeyCool::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 10:11:51 AM
    Good morning, Monkeys!  Just started listening to the phone calls from Robyn.  Did anyone notice that the nickname was "Muffin"?  Isn't that the name Casey signed in her letters?  So is this part of Casey trying to ingratiate herself, or be part of the cool clique?  I always see her as trying to get accepted by the popular crowd, but she inevitably does something stupid, like lying, or stealing, to screw it up.  She just can't help herself...
     ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Morning Monka.......I noticed....and I agree it was KC trying to ingratiate herself....that's what she does...I remember vaguely Jesse talking about how she suddenly became interested in his favorite sports team, perhaps baseball..... ............can't remember the exact words....


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 10:12:55 AM
    Good morning, Monkeys!  Just started listening to the phone calls from Robyn.  Did anyone notice that the nickname was "Muffin"?  Isn't that the name Casey signed in her letters?  So is this part of Casey trying to ingratiate herself, or be part of the cool clique?  I always see her as trying to get accepted by the popular crowd, but she inevitably does something stupid, like lying, or stealing, to screw it up.  She just can't help herself...
     ::MonkeyNoNo::


     ::MonkeyHaHa::    Yep, I noticed it.   I was confused because I thought she was on the phone with KC at first.  I guess KC has to steal everything from her friends,  even names!   

    Hi Sassy.............. ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 10:14:08 AM
    http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
    Is Casey’s Diary Important?
    Posted on April 9th, 2010 by JWG

    thanks trim....I like both Val and JWG's thoughts... I believe it was written around the time of Caylee's death as well....I hope there is someway to prove that sin-cin wrote 2003 in it.

    I agree,and I hope so too. 

    As soon as I saw "2003" personally I questioned that it was written after the fact as part of the cover up.   We know Cindy went rifling thru Casey's room.   As I mentioned the other day when Casey's jail letters came out I questioned whether Casey wrote anything in her diary about the allegations she made in her jail letters...to our knowledge thus far that is not evident.   If you think about the year 2003, Casey would have been 16, seriously just how much regret should a a 16 year old girl have?   The passage she uses on the opposite page seems like something someone a tad older would write, not to say its not impossible that a 16 year old teen could write it BUT if you put it in contents of her unwed pregnancy, stealing incidents etc then it would begin to make sense.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 10:18:14 AM


    I don't get this.   In Maryland, you can't get into a courthouse with a cell phone, even if you're only going there to get a marriage license or something that only takes a few minutes,  nevermind sitting in a hearing.   The guards at the security checkpoint/metal detector will not allow it.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
    But, didn't you know?  These are the ANTHONYS!  The rules everyone else has to follow don't apply to them.  I just want to slap the gum right out of their mouths.  Please Judge S., take a stand and quit letting them disrespect the court.
     ::MonkeyGavel::

    I fail to understand WHY JS allows the A's and BOZO to get away with what they get away with in HIS court room............ ::MonkeyNoNo::  I think he may be one of those persons who do not like any type of direct confrontation......and perhaps that's why he seldom rules during court............but waits til a bit later.  JMO of course  I'd LOVE to see him get tough!!!  But I really don't think that's going to happen.  I hope I am WRONG!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 10:20:06 AM
    Good morning, Monkeys!  Just started listening to the phone calls from Robyn.  Did anyone notice that the nickname was "Muffin"?  Isn't that the name Casey signed in her letters?  So is this part of Casey trying to ingratiate herself, or be part of the cool clique?  I always see her as trying to get accepted by the popular crowd, but she inevitably does something stupid, like lying, or stealing, to screw it up.  She just can't help herself...
     ::MonkeyNoNo::


     ::MonkeyHaHa::    Yep, I noticed it.   I was confused because I thought she was on the phone with KC at first.  I guess KC has to steal everything from her friends,  even names!   

    Hi Sassy.............. ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::
    Muffin and Cookie, now she's ruined that also  ::MonkeyJnBox::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 10:20:35 AM
    I agree! And leave the cell phones out of the courtroom. I think the time before this last hearing, Cindy was busy texting while waiting for court to begin. That the heck?!

    (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image8-2.png)

    I don't get this.   In Maryland, you can't get into a courthouse with a cell phone, even if you're only going there to get a marriage license or something that only takes a few minutes,  nevermind sitting in a hearing.   The guards at the security checkpoint/metal detector will not allow it.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

    The general rules are that sound be shut off during a proceeding, Ive gotten in many courtrooms with one.    Not to make light of this but check out the woman behind her in the pink cardigan leaning in to try and take a peak at what Cindy is doing...Im sure that would be most of us as well if we were right behind them.    There is something sinister about Cindy's new friends face that is captured in this pic....sheeps that flock ya know.

    That's not the general rule in Maryland.   Here it is no cells, period.

    Same in every courtroom I have been in in TX..........and no water bottles...no food or drink of any kind.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 10:21:56 AM
    Judge Strickland better get tougher in his courtroom.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 10:22:40 AM
    Thanks for all the updates, I don't know if I have the strength to listen to the phone calls  ::MonkeyEek::

    I understand completely.....they will have to wait for a later time for me....I am still reeling from the darn letters!! ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 10:24:02 AM
    Thanks for all the updates, I don't know if I have the strength to listen to the phone calls  ::MonkeyEek::

    I understand completely.....they will have to wait for a later time for me....I am still reeling from the darn letters!! ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
    Me too, and all that fancy penmanship of Casey's  ::MonkeyTongue::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 10:26:39 AM
    So Cindy blocked access for Jesse to be there, if I would have been Jesse I would have blocked access for Cindy and George to be there. He should have been in that room helping with the baby he thought was his. This is beyond disturbing to me. And this nonsense about Cindy holding Caylee first, I can't even remember who held either of my babies first, and it did nothing to me and bonding with them.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    sorry but I don't remember hearing/reading that sin-cin blocked Jesse.....anyone have a link?  I think I was so taken back by finding out that georgie was in the delivery room and seeing the photos, that I have forgotten anything else about it.....other than sin-cin was the first to hold her and named her....


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 10:28:34 AM
    So Cindy blocked access for Jesse to be there, if I would have been Jesse I would have blocked access for Cindy and George to be there. He should have been in that room helping with the baby he thought was his. This is beyond disturbing to me. And this nonsense about Cindy holding Caylee first, I can't even remember who held either of my babies first, and it did nothing to me and bonding with them.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    sorry but I don't remember hearing/reading that sin-cin blocked Jesse.....anyone have a link?  I think I was so taken back by finding out that georgie was in the delivery room and seeing the photos, that I have forgotten anything else about it.....other than sin-cin was the first to hold her and named her....
    I can't say for sure, but I thought Jesse was in the hospital waiting for the birth. And he should have been the one cutting the umbilical cord.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 10:28:58 AM
    http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/jailhouse-confections-part-1/
    Jailhouse Confections, Part 1
    April 7, 2010 · 357 Comments

    OK, Ive stated this before - this wannabe is a moron & this confirms it.   Why the heck would he go out of his way to attempt to discredit a lead detective in a homicide case involving the murder of a babygirl?

    "Those are contradictory words written by Melich. Generally, prosecutors rely on sworn testimony and not on what a detective writes in a summary, but now the possibility exists that the defense could exploit the detective’s credibility at trial."

    First off, those are NOT contradictory words by Yuri, they are based on what was told to him by Adams in interview.   Secondly, I am presently absolutely irate with this tool insinuating that this man, a lead detective in the case would say something that wasnt true to what he was told or that his credibility should be questioned....this makes me believe that his professed new found friendship with JS is a big exaggeration & maybe even possibly a lie.   I AM FURIOUS!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 10:31:43 AM
    Judge Strickland better get tougher in his courtroom.

    I so agree.........one time I accompanied a friend to court for her divorce...just for moral support...I was sitting in the gallery wile the attorneys and my friend and her husband were ordered to go into a room and work something out. I was just sitting there and suddenly the judge sends the bailiff back to ask me to come forward. The judge wanted to know who I was, why I was there and told me my charm bracelet was a distraction and strongly suggested I remove it or LEAVE HIS COURT ROOM!! ::MonkeyShocked::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 10:34:27 AM
    Judge Strickland better get tougher in his courtroom.

    I so agree.........one time I accompanied a friend to court for her divorce...just for moral support...I was sitting in the gallery wile the attorneys and my friend and her husband were ordered to go into a room and work something out. I was just sitting there and suddenly the judge sends the bailiff back to ask me to come forward. The judge wanted to know who I was, why I was there and told me my charm bracelet was a distraction and strongly suggested I remove it or LEAVE HIS COURT ROOM!! ::MonkeyShocked::
    Wow, I'm not sure how a charm bracelet was a distraction  ::MonkeyEek:: I think there is a lot of playing to the cameras going on.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 10:39:46 AM
    Judge Strickland better get tougher in his courtroom.

    I so agree.........one time I accompanied a friend to court for her divorce...just for moral support...I was sitting in the gallery wile the attorneys and my friend and her husband were ordered to go into a room and work something out. I was just sitting there and suddenly the judge sends the bailiff back to ask me to come forward. The judge wanted to know who I was, why I was there and told me my charm bracelet was a distraction and strongly suggested I remove it or LEAVE HIS COURT ROOM!! ::MonkeyShocked::
    Wow, I'm not sure how a charm bracelet was a distraction  ::MonkeyEek:: I think there is a lot of playing to the cameras going on.

    I didn't know it was a distraction either....but I sure took it off!  I agree, there was a lot of playing to the camera.......more than usual


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: jen3560 on April 09, 2010, 10:40:27 AM


    OK, Ive stated this before - this wannabe is a moron & this confirms it.   Why the heck would he go out of his way to attempt to discredit a lead detective in a homicide case involving the murder of a babygirl?

    "Those are contradictory words written by Melich. Generally, prosecutors rely on sworn testimony and not on what a detective writes in a summary, but now the possibility exists that the defense could exploit the detective’s credibility at trial."

    First off, those are NOT contradictory words by Yuri, they are based on what was told to him by Adams in interview.   Secondly, I am presently absolutely irate with this tool insinuating that this man, a lead detective in the case would say something that wasnt true to what he was told or that his credibility should be questioned....this makes me believe that his professed new found friendship with JS is a big exaggeration & maybe even possibly a lie.   I AM FURIOUS!

    Have you read the things R Hornsby has said about Melich at WS?  ::MonkeyMad::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 10:42:41 AM


    Have you read the things R Hornsby has said about Melich at WS?  ::MonkeyMad::

    hi jen........no, do tell!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 10:43:12 AM
    I haven't Jen, I have read quite a lot of Hornsby over there, but I don't recall him talking about Melich.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 09, 2010, 10:43:51 AM


    OK, Ive stated this before - this wannabe is a moron & this confirms it.   Why the heck would he go out of his way to attempt to discredit a lead detective in a homicide case involving the murder of a babygirl?

    "Those are contradictory words written by Melich. Generally, prosecutors rely on sworn testimony and not on what a detective writes in a summary, but now the possibility exists that the defense could exploit the detective’s credibility at trial."

    First off, those are NOT contradictory words by Yuri, they are based on what was told to him by Adams in interview.   Secondly, I am presently absolutely irate with this tool insinuating that this man, a lead detective in the case would say something that wasnt true to what he was told or that his credibility should be questioned....this makes me believe that his professed new found friendship with JS is a big exaggeration & maybe even possibly a lie.   I AM FURIOUS!

    Have you read the things R Hornsby has said about Melich at WS?  ::MonkeyMad::



    I don't know why Hornsby hasn't become a part of the defense team since he believes Caylee died accidently.          ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 09, 2010, 10:45:41 AM
    I haven't Jen, I have read quite a lot of Hornsby over there, but I don't recall him talking about Melich.



    Hornsby has all the phone calls and has WS getting readly to discuss them. He's really has been putting Melich down big time on that special thread over there.........


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 10:48:41 AM
    I haven't Jen, I have read quite a lot of Hornsby over there, but I don't recall him talking about Melich.



    Hornsby has all the phone calls and has WS getting readly to discuss them. He's really has been putting Melich down big time on that special thread over there.........
    I just went over to look, is he going to talk about the phone calls, in that thread for experts, where he and AZlawyer answer questions?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 10:51:54 AM
    He needs someone who speaks Croation, I guess some of the calls are in that language.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: zoeandme on April 09, 2010, 10:52:31 AM
    Morning!  Yes, I saw Hornsby over ther too.  Funny that he seems to spend all his time on this case.  Doesn't he have cases of his own to be working on???  Or is he now working with the Baez duhfense?  I don't understand him.....I really never liked him.  Hopefully that doesn't offend anyone here.  They all seem to love him to death over at WS!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 09, 2010, 10:52:35 AM


    Have you read the things R Hornsby has said about Melich at WS?  ::MonkeyMad::

    hi jen........no, do tell!!

    Scoot over,I wanna hear too.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 09, 2010, 10:53:17 AM
    I haven't Jen, I have read quite a lot of Hornsby over there, but I don't recall him talking about Melich.



    Hornsby has all the phone calls and has WS getting readly to discuss them. He's really has been putting Melich down big time on that special thread over there.........
    I just went over to look, is he going to talk about the phone calls, in that thread for experts, where he and AZlawyer answer questions?



    Yes, some of the members signed on to listen to all the calls last nite and Hornsby mailed them access. In about 10 min they will begin discussing what they got out of it. Should be interesting and also save us the agony of listening to the calls that are of no importance


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 09, 2010, 10:55:13 AM
    Morning!  Yes, I saw Hornsby over ther too.  Funny that he seems to spend all his time on this case.  Doesn't he have cases of his own to be working on???  Or is he now working with the Baez duhfense?  I don't understand him.....I really never liked him.  Hopefully that doesn't offend anyone here.  They all seem to love him to death over at WS!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Some of the members are really giving him the what for over there with accident theory. They seem to appreciate his interest but most aren't going for it........


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: zoeandme on April 09, 2010, 10:58:32 AM
    Morning!  Yes, I saw Hornsby over ther too.  Funny that he seems to spend all his time on this case.  Doesn't he have cases of his own to be working on???  Or is he now working with the Baez duhfense?  I don't understand him.....I really never liked him.  Hopefully that doesn't offend anyone here.  They all seem to love him to death over at WS!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Some of the members are really giving him the what for over there with accident theory. They seem to appreciate his interest but most aren't going for it........

    Yes, I saw that just now.  I put my 2cents in as well.  Some 'sheeple' like him though, and want to help him out with his little agenda for some reason.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 10:59:15 AM


    OK, Ive stated this before - this wannabe is a moron & this confirms it.   Why the heck would he go out of his way to attempt to discredit a lead detective in a homicide case involving the murder of a babygirl?

    "Those are contradictory words written by Melich. Generally, prosecutors rely on sworn testimony and not on what a detective writes in a summary, but now the possibility exists that the defense could exploit the detective’s credibility at trial."

    First off, those are NOT contradictory words by Yuri, they are based on what was told to him by Adams in interview.   Secondly, I am presently absolutely irate with this tool insinuating that this man, a lead detective in the case would say something that wasnt true to what he was told or that his credibility should be questioned....this makes me believe that his professed new found friendship with JS is a big exaggeration & maybe even possibly a lie.   I AM FURIOUS!

    Have you read the things R Hornsby has said about Melich at WS?  ::MonkeyMad::



    I don't know why Hornsby hasn't become a part of the defense team since he believes Caylee died accidently.          ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Ive said it before, this confirms it....this man is a huge bitter pill, he acts like a jealous school girl & in his mind is so full of himself that all he does is criticize others so he appears (at least to himself) above them.  At this point his comments about YM have me already livid.   I dont care if he thinks it was an accident or not, well frankly how anyone can say that with a straight face is beyond me given what we know so far...his constant interjection into this case just to mock where he can is a distraction, if not downright attempting to obstruct the truth.     I have a feeling this ahole is going to have me beyond livid shortly.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Western Observr on April 09, 2010, 11:00:40 AM
    Someone on another forum just brought up that Cindy could lose her nursing license if it turns out Casey came to her about abuse and she didn't report it. That I would have no idea if that is true, but interesting. I sure would love to hear Cindy's brother Rick right about now on the topic of abuse  ::MonkeyEek::

    Yes, that could happen- in Florida being an RN would make her a Mandatory reporter. She is held to a greater obligation than a member of the general Public..


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 09, 2010, 11:00:48 AM
    Morning!  Yes, I saw Hornsby over ther too.  Funny that he seems to spend all his time on this case.  Doesn't he have cases of his own to be working on???  Or is he now working with the Baez duhfense?  I don't understand him.....I really never liked him.  Hopefully that doesn't offend anyone here.  They all seem to love him to death over at WS!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Some of the members are really giving him the what for over there with accident theory. They seem to appreciate his interest but most aren't going for it........

    Yes, I saw that just now.  I put my 2cents in as well.  Some 'sheeple' like him though, and want to help him out with his little agenda for some reason.


    There is one really off the wall poster over there that comes up with the most outrageous accusations. I think she just likes to stir things up and get their thread locked down, lol


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 11:02:22 AM
    Morning!  Yes, I saw Hornsby over ther too.  Funny that he seems to spend all his time on this case.  Doesn't he have cases of his own to be working on???  Or is he now working with the Baez duhfense?  I don't understand him.....I really never liked him.  Hopefully that doesn't offend anyone here.  They all seem to love him to death over at WS!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Some of the members are really giving him the what for over there with accident theory. They seem to appreciate his interest but most aren't going for it........

    Yes, I saw that just now.  I put my 2cents in as well.  Some 'sheeple' like him though, and want to help him out with his little agenda for some reason.

    Dam I wish I had access over there  to rip him a new one (not a member by measured choice)....it would be so easy to put him in his place


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 11:03:39 AM
    Morning!  Yes, I saw Hornsby over ther too.  Funny that he seems to spend all his time on this case.  Doesn't he have cases of his own to be working on???  Or is he now working with the Baez duhfense?  I don't understand him.....I really never liked him.  Hopefully that doesn't offend anyone here.  They all seem to love him to death over at WS!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Some of the members are really giving him the what for over there with accident theory. They seem to appreciate his interest but most aren't going for it........
    I got to page 8 and will read more, you are right, and he upset one girl who suffers from mental issues, with his saying some remark about Skye being on a bunch of medicine, I'm taking it that she is bipolar.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: zoeandme on April 09, 2010, 11:04:31 AM
    Morning!  Yes, I saw Hornsby over ther too.  Funny that he seems to spend all his time on this case.  Doesn't he have cases of his own to be working on???  Or is he now working with the Baez duhfense?  I don't understand him.....I really never liked him.  Hopefully that doesn't offend anyone here.  They all seem to love him to death over at WS!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Some of the members are really giving him the what for over there with accident theory. They seem to appreciate his interest but most aren't going for it........

    Yes, I saw that just now.  I put my 2cents in as well.  Some 'sheeple' like him though, and want to help him out with his little agenda for some reason.

    Oh I definitely know who that is!!  LOL  Sadly there's a mod over there who seems to back the A's and sometimes KC too. Disgusting!   ::rhino::

    There is one really off the wall poster over there that comes up with the most outrageous accusations. I think she just likes to stir things up and get their thread locked down, lol


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: zoeandme on April 09, 2010, 11:05:18 AM
    Oh Boy!  I haven't posted in awhile and it shows!  Sorry---I posted in your quote!!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 11:05:41 AM
    Morning!  Yes, I saw Hornsby over ther too.  Funny that he seems to spend all his time on this case.  Doesn't he have cases of his own to be working on???  Or is he now working with the Baez duhfense?  I don't understand him.....I really never liked him.  Hopefully that doesn't offend anyone here.  They all seem to love him to death over at WS!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Some of the members are really giving him the what for over there with accident theory. They seem to appreciate his interest but most aren't going for it........
    I got to page 8 and will read more, you are right, and he upset one girl who suffers from mental issues, with his saying some remark about Skye being on a bunch of medicine, I'm taking it that she is bipolar.

    The man has the sensitivity of a rock & an ego the size of the Grand Canyon.   HORNSBY, you're the joke buddy, get a mirror!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 09, 2010, 11:06:02 AM


    OK, Ive stated this before - this wannabe is a moron & this confirms it.   Why the heck would he go out of his way to attempt to discredit a lead detective in a homicide case involving the murder of a babygirl?

    "Those are contradictory words written by Melich. Generally, prosecutors rely on sworn testimony and not on what a detective writes in a summary, but now the possibility exists that the defense could exploit the detective’s credibility at trial."

    First off, those are NOT contradictory words by Yuri, they are based on what was told to him by Adams in interview.   Secondly, I am presently absolutely irate with this tool insinuating that this man, a lead detective in the case would say something that wasnt true to what he was told or that his credibility should be questioned....this makes me believe that his professed new found friendship with JS is a big exaggeration & maybe even possibly a lie.   I AM FURIOUS!

    Have you read the things R Hornsby has said about Melich at WS?  ::MonkeyMad::



    I don't know why Hornsby hasn't become a part of the defense team since he believes Caylee died accidently.          ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Ive said it before, this confirms it....this man is a huge bitter pill, he acts like a jealous school girl & in his mind is so full of himself that all he does is criticize others so he appears (at least to himself) above them.  At this point his comments about YM have me already livid.   I dont care if he thinks it was an accident or not, well frankly how anyone can say that with a straight face is beyond me given what we know so far...his constant interjection into this case just to mock where he can is a distraction, if not downright attempting to obstruct the truth.     I have a feeling this ahole is going to have me beyond livid shortly.



    That's very possible. The discussion was suppossed to start at 11:00 and he's not there yet. I hope he shows cause I want to hear what was on those calls so I don't have to listen to them all. My ears burned and my eyes glowed red just from listening to 2 of them last nite. I can't do 800.........





    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: jen3560 on April 09, 2010, 11:06:15 AM


    Have you read the things R Hornsby has said about Melich at WS?  ::MonkeyMad::

    hi jen........no, do tell!!

    Hi Sunny!  How are you?

    I don't want to re-post his nastiness here, the thread (all throughout it) he's done it on last night is this one:

    Robyn Adams, Benhaida, and Derkovic Jail Calls


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 11:16:17 AM
    You don't need to be a member of WS to read, only a member to read the private forums.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 11:19:42 AM


    OK, Ive stated this before - this wannabe is a moron & this confirms it.   Why the heck would he go out of his way to attempt to discredit a lead detective in a homicide case involving the murder of a babygirl?

    "Those are contradictory words written by Melich. Generally, prosecutors rely on sworn testimony and not on what a detective writes in a summary, but now the possibility exists that the defense could exploit the detective’s credibility at trial."

    First off, those are NOT contradictory words by Yuri, they are based on what was told to him by Adams in interview.   Secondly, I am presently absolutely irate with this tool insinuating that this man, a lead detective in the case would say something that wasnt true to what he was told or that his credibility should be questioned....this makes me believe that his professed new found friendship with JS is a big exaggeration & maybe even possibly a lie.   I AM FURIOUS!

    Have you read the things R Hornsby has said about Melich at WS?  ::MonkeyMad::



    I don't know why Hornsby hasn't become a part of the defense team since he believes Caylee died accidently.          ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Ive said it before, this confirms it....this man is a huge bitter pill, he acts like a jealous school girl & in his mind is so full of himself that all he does is criticize others so he appears (at least to himself) above them.  At this point his comments about YM have me already livid.   I dont care if he thinks it was an accident or not, well frankly how anyone can say that with a straight face is beyond me given what we know so far...his constant interjection into this case just to mock where he can is a distraction, if not downright attempting to obstruct the truth.     I have a feeling this ahole is going to have me beyond livid shortly.



    That's very possible. The discussion was suppossed to start at 11:00 and he's not there yet. I hope he shows cause I want to hear what was on those calls so I don't have to listen to them all. My ears burned and my eyes glowed red just from listening to 2 of them last nite. I can't do 800.........



    Ugh, I have to hear the actual calls for myself because I certainly am not going to listen to his tainted view.  Look I too question the credibility of inmates BUT what I am livid about is him insinuating that YM is reproached in any manner.    These lead detectives worked endlessly & searched out the truth beyond the call of duty, if anything they should receive a medal for the tolerance & patience they have had to exhibit with not only Casey but her entire family, scum that they are.   Personally & generally, there is no doubt in my mind that Yuri would NEVER


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 09, 2010, 11:20:34 AM
    You don't need to be a member of WS to read, only a member to read the private forums.


    Darn, Hornsby just now posted the links. I was hoping some of the members had already read them.....this is gonna be a long day.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 11:22:12 AM


    OK, Ive stated this before - this wannabe is a moron & this confirms it.   Why the heck would he go out of his way to attempt to discredit a lead detective in a homicide case involving the murder of a babygirl?

    "Those are contradictory words written by Melich. Generally, prosecutors rely on sworn testimony and not on what a detective writes in a summary, but now the possibility exists that the defense could exploit the detective’s credibility at trial."

    First off, those are NOT contradictory words by Yuri, they are based on what was told to him by Adams in interview.   Secondly, I am presently absolutely irate with this tool insinuating that this man, a lead detective in the case would say something that wasnt true to what he was told or that his credibility should be questioned....this makes me believe that his professed new found friendship with JS is a big exaggeration & maybe even possibly a lie.   I AM FURIOUS!

    Have you read the things R Hornsby has said about Melich at WS?  ::MonkeyMad::



    I don't know why Hornsby hasn't become a part of the defense team since he believes Caylee died accidently.          ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Ive said it before, this confirms it....this man is a huge bitter pill, he acts like a jealous school girl & in his mind is so full of himself that all he does is criticize others so he appears (at least to himself) above them.  At this point his comments about YM have me already livid.   I dont care if he thinks it was an accident or not, well frankly how anyone can say that with a straight face is beyond me given what we know so far...his constant interjection into this case just to mock where he can is a distraction, if not downright attempting to obstruct the truth.     I have a feeling this ahole is going to have me beyond livid shortly.



    That's very possible. The discussion was suppossed to start at 11:00 and he's not there yet. I hope he shows cause I want to hear what was on those calls so I don't have to listen to them all. My ears burned and my eyes glowed red just from listening to 2 of them last nite. I can't do 800.........



    Ugh, I have to hear the actual calls for myself because I certainly am not going to listen to his tainted view.  Look I too question the credibility of inmates BUT what I am livid about is him insinuating that YM is reproached in any manner.    These lead detectives worked endlessly & searched out the truth beyond the call of duty, if anything they should receive a medal for the tolerance & patience they have had to exhibit with not only Casey but her entire family, scum that they are.   Personally & generally, there is no doubt in my mind that Yuri would NEVER ....

    SORRY it kicked off in the middle of my sentence...NEVER say or do anything to compromise this case.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: joesamas mama on April 09, 2010, 11:23:07 AM
    He needs someone who speaks Croation, I guess some of the calls are in that language.
    Here is a little Croatian for Mr Hornsby from JSM.... poljubi me u guzicu! KC is a murderer and you are a bedak. Now for a little  ::monkeywine2:: and BTL JSM


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 11:24:06 AM
    You don't need to be a member of WS to read, only a member to read the private forums.


    Darn, Hornsby just now posted the links. I was hoping some of the members had already read them.....this is gonna be a long day.

    I think we should put in a link here to what we are referencing as we do with everything else.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 11:24:14 AM
    You don't need to be a member of WS to read, only a member to read the private forums.


    Darn, Hornsby just now posted the links. I was hoping some of the members had already read them.....this is gonna be a long day.
    He's riled up quite a few already  ::MonkeyShocked::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: monkalicious on April 09, 2010, 11:24:21 AM
    So Cindy blocked access for Jesse to be there, if I would have been Jesse I would have blocked access for Cindy and George to be there. He should have been in that room helping with the baby he thought was his. This is beyond disturbing to me. And this nonsense about Cindy holding Caylee first, I can't even remember who held either of my babies first, and it did nothing to me and bonding with them.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    sorry but I don't remember hearing/reading that sin-cin blocked Jesse.....anyone have a link?  I think I was so taken back by finding out that georgie was in the delivery room and seeing the photos, that I have forgotten anything else about it.....other than sin-cin was the first to hold her and named her....
    Oooh, and on that topic of naming Caylee...Does anyone else remember an interview that Cindy did where someone is confused by all the "C" names, and she says there is a reason for that, but I don't recall if she ever explained it.  Trust her to make a big deal about it.  (I can think of a "C" name for her and Casey, but I'm much too much of a lady to repeat it.  Hah!)


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 11:24:33 AM
    He needs someone who speaks Croation, I guess some of the calls are in that language.
    Here is a little Croatian for Mr Hornsby from JSM.... poljubi me u guzicu! KC is a murderer and you are a bedak. Now for a little  ::monkeywine2:: and BTL JSM


    Hey hey girl!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: monkalicious on April 09, 2010, 11:25:04 AM
    He needs someone who speaks Croation, I guess some of the calls are in that language.
    Here is a little Croatian for Mr Hornsby from JSM.... poljubi me u guzicu! KC is a murderer and you are a bedak. Now for a little  ::monkeywine2:: and BTL JSM
    You are so cute, JSM!
     ::MonkeyJnBox::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: joesamas mama on April 09, 2010, 11:26:41 AM
    He needs someone who speaks Croation, I guess some of the calls are in that language.
    Here is a little Croatian for Mr Hornsby from JSM.... poljubi me u guzicu! KC is a murderer and you are a bedak. Now for a little  ::monkeywine2:: and BTL JSM


    Hey hey girl!
    Hey Cappy!! I wonder if the Croatian callers are calling in because of Maya's last name?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 09, 2010, 11:26:48 AM
    He needs someone who speaks Croation, I guess some of the calls are in that language.
    Here is a little Croatian for Mr Hornsby from JSM.... poljubi me u guzicu! KC is a murderer and you are a bedak. Now for a little  ::monkeywine2:: and BTL JSM

    I knew you would have something!   ::MonkeyDance::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: joesamas mama on April 09, 2010, 11:27:24 AM
    He needs someone who speaks Croation, I guess some of the calls are in that language.
    Here is a little Croatian for Mr Hornsby from JSM.... poljubi me u guzicu! KC is a murderer and you are a bedak. Now for a little  ::monkeywine2:: and BTL JSM
    You are so cute, JSM!
     ::MonkeyJnBox::
      ::MonkeyKiss:: As are you Monkalicious.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 09, 2010, 11:28:00 AM
    You don't need to be a member of WS to read, only a member to read the private forums.


    Darn, Hornsby just now posted the links. I was hoping some of the members had already read them.....this is gonna be a long day.

    I think we should put in a link here to what we are referencing as we do with everything else.



    link to the calls

    http://blog.richardhornsby.com/uploads/Jail-Audio/


    link to WS thread

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100996


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: joesamas mama on April 09, 2010, 11:28:38 AM
    He needs someone who speaks Croation, I guess some of the calls are in that language.
    Here is a little Croatian for Mr Hornsby from JSM.... poljubi me u guzicu! KC is a murderer and you are a bedak. Now for a little  ::monkeywine2:: and BTL JSM

    I knew you would have something!   ::MonkeyDance::
      ::MonkeyJnBox:: I hate Mr Hornsby with a passion, so I had to chime in a bit.  ::MonkeyDevil::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 11:30:30 AM
    OK I went over there, I see the thread where he posts that he needs opinions, why his assine ones arent enough?   Is this proof that he works off the opinions of people out in left field that wouldnt know the truth if it smacked them in the face?    Im not disputing opinion on credibility of inmates, Im disputing him character assassinating one of the lead detectives in this case.  Where is his commentary?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 11:31:09 AM
    Thank you N2


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 09, 2010, 11:31:24 AM
    You don't need to be a member of WS to read, only a member to read the private forums.


    Darn, Hornsby just now posted the links. I was hoping some of the members had already read them.....this is gonna be a long day.

    I can not stand WS.  I can not stand RHornsby.  The man is a total media w*ore.

    I read his first sentence in the first post on that thread and got no further.  Like Baez and the A's the man does not have a grasp of the English language.

    In his first sentence he is being all cute acting like Mission Impossible and saying here is your mission if you chose to "EXCEPT IT".  What ..he means ACCEPT..EXCEPT means just the opposite.  What a huge ego and a huge fool.

    I was banned at WS with Blink and a few others for the work I was doing on the wheeling and dealing on this case.  Anyone who puts Yuri down, posts on WS and is a lawyer and doesn't know the difference between accept and except is not worth my time.  And needless to say he is letting the little people do his work for him.

    He is a Waste, Huge Waste of my time.   I'll read them on my own thank you.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 11:34:04 AM


    Have you read the things R Hornsby has said about Melich at WS?  ::MonkeyMad::

    hi jen........no, do tell!!

    Hi Sunny!  How are you?

    I don't want to re-post his nastiness here, the thread (all throughout it) he's done it on last night is this one:

    Robyn Adams, Benhaida, and Derkovic Jail Calls

    thanks jen.....he is a immature young man with a lot of growing up to do....


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 11:35:39 AM
    You don't need to be a member of WS to read, only a member to read the private forums.


    Darn, Hornsby just now posted the links. I was hoping some of the members had already read them.....this is gonna be a long day.

    I think we should put in a link here to what we are referencing as we do with everything else.

    I disagree.............WS will not allow any links to SM and I feel we should return in kind!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 09, 2010, 11:37:15 AM
    Sorry Capp I just had to bring this post over for you to read.....




      #9    Today, 11:29 AM 
     rhornsby 
    Board Certified Criminal Trial Lawyer   Join Date: Aug 2008
    Location: Orlando, Florida
    Posts: 533 
     
    I posted this in response to a person on my BLOG who is upset with me that I referred to needing "free help" and my dislike of Melich, Belich, et. al. But so everyone knows where my motives lie (no pun intended) here it is for everyone. If you don't like my motives, then don't help . . . but then why participate on a forum titled "WebSleuths?"


    Quote:
    Nicola,

    I have not reported Baez for “passing notes” because it is not a violation of any criminal law or rule of professional conduct – it is a violation of jail policy only.

    And while I agree that Baez’s misdeeds make all defense attorneys look bad, when people like Yuri Melich fall over themselves trying to create incriminating evidence – in a case that does not need it – those people undermine the very foundation of the United States Criminal Justice system.

    Finally, should I have lied to everyone and said I was posting the audio solely out of the goodness of my heart? That would have been an even bigger fraud. The truth is that there are over 1,000 calls averaging 15 minutes in length that I just obtained YESTERDAY.

    I could either (A) spend the rest of eternity listening to them or (B) enlist others to help me to see if we find anything. WHO KNOWS, we might find MORE incriminating information about Casey Anthony.

    So either help, or don’t help. But at least I tell it like it is unlike Melich, Belich, and Shaeffer.
     


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 11:40:01 AM
    You don't need to be a member of WS to read, only a member to read the private forums.


    Darn, Hornsby just now posted the links. I was hoping some of the members had already read them.....this is gonna be a long day.

    I can not stand WS.  I can not stand RHornsby.  The man is a total media w*ore.

    I read his first sentence in the first post on that thread and got no further.  Like Baez and the A's the man does not have a grasp of the English language.

    In his first sentence he is being all cute acting like Mission Impossible and saying here is your mission if you chose to "EXCEPT IT".  What ..he means ACCEPT..EXCEPT means just the opposite.  What a huge ego and a huge fool.

    I was banned at WS with Blink and a few others for the work I was doing on the wheeling and dealing on this case.  Anyone who puts Yuri down, posts on WS and is a lawyer and doesn't know the difference between accept and except is not worth my time.  And needless to say he is letting the little people do his work for him.

    He is a Waste, Huge Waste of my time.   I'll read them on my own thank you.

    I only read there ions ago but know enough that there is something really off...Ill leave it at that here.   When Law & Order did that episode about the Army wife & the "sleuthers" interjected themselves into the case quite obstructively, trust me I had a thought or two as to where they got their model from.    As to Hornsby, as you can tell by my rants I concur with every ounce of my being....HORNSBY is an egotistical inciting mediawhore purely to bring attention to himself....he should practice law once in a blue moon, then again I take that back because he doesnt deserve the credit for being able to litigate.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Sassycat on April 09, 2010, 11:40:10 AM
    http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/jailhouse-confections-part-1/
    Jailhouse Confections, Part 1
    April 7, 2010 · 357 Comments

    thanks trim.....I am not a fan of marinadebrain......here's an example

    Herein lies a dilemma. In her interview, inmate Maya Derkovic talked about Casey using something to knock Caylee out, but she was not specific about what drugs she used to do that. Melich wrote, “Casey Anthony never mentioned what she used to put Caylee Anthony to sleep.”

    But also in his investigative summary, Melich reported something completely different coming from inmate Robyn Adams. “Caylee Anthony had trouble sleeping and she had to use chloroform to put her to sleep. Casey Anthony implied her mother may have brought the chloroform home when she worked at a local clinic.”

    Those are contradictory words written by Melich.


    Hello???  mushbrain.....Melich reported/summarized what he was told by 2 different people.......???? 

    Exactly!    ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 11:41:27 AM
    Sorry Capp I just had to bring this post over for you to read.....




      #9    Today, 11:29 AM 
     rhornsby 
    Board Certified Criminal Trial Lawyer   Join Date: Aug 2008
    Location: Orlando, Florida
    Posts: 533 
     
    I posted this in response to a person on my BLOG who is upset with me that I referred to needing "free help" and my dislike of Melich, Belich, et. al. But so everyone knows where my motives lie (no pun intended) here it is for everyone. If you don't like my motives, then don't help . . . but then why participate on a forum titled "WebSleuths?"


    Quote:
    Nicola,

    I have not reported Baez for “passing notes” because it is not a violation of any criminal law or rule of professional conduct – it is a violation of jail policy only.

    And while I agree that Baez’s misdeeds make all defense attorneys look bad, when people like Yuri Melich fall over themselves trying to create incriminating evidence – in a case that does not need it – those people undermine the very foundation of the United States Criminal Justice system.

    Finally, should I have lied to everyone and said I was posting the audio solely out of the goodness of my heart? That would have been an even bigger fraud. The truth is that there are over 1,000 calls averaging 15 minutes in length that I just obtained YESTERDAY.

    I could either (A) spend the rest of eternity listening to them or (B) enlist others to help me to see if we find anything. WHO KNOWS, we might find MORE incriminating information about Casey Anthony.

    So either help, or don’t help. But at least I tell it like it is unlike Melich, Belich, and Shaeffer.
     


    OMG N2 I had just caved to go over there to read & just read that but questioned whether I should post it here....OMFG what an arrogant little pricola he is


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Western Observr on April 09, 2010, 11:41:34 AM
    Don't worry about Hornsby. The great majority see him for what he is, just another Defense Attorney who wants to claim the usual Police conspiracy..
    He stormed off in a sulk last time he was there, someone with greater intelligence than him proved him wrong and he couldn't handle it.  He won't be there long.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 09, 2010, 11:44:00 AM
    Don't worry about Hornsby. The great majority see him for what he is, just another Defense Attorney who wants to claim the usual Police conspiracy..
    He stormed off in a sulk last time he was there, someone with greater intelligence than him proved him wrong and he couldn't handle it.  He won't be there long.


    He's using the WSers to do his leg work for him and then he will pick out what he wants from their input and bloviate about it.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 11:44:19 AM
    You don't need to be a member of WS to read, only a member to read the private forums.


    Darn, Hornsby just now posted the links. I was hoping some of the members had already read them.....this is gonna be a long day.

    I think we should put in a link here to what we are referencing as we do with everything else.

    I disagree.............WS will not allow any links to SM and I feel we should return in kind!

    Sunny, I hear what you are saying on that but at the same time we're supposed to give reference link to what we are discussing or quoting from where, dynamics set aside & understood.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Sassycat on April 09, 2010, 11:44:35 AM
    Don't worry about Hornsby. The great majority see him for what he is, just another Defense Attorney who wants to claim the usual Police conspiracy..
    He stormed off in a sulk last time he was there, someone with greater intelligence than him proved him wrong and he couldn't handle it.  He won't be there long.

    Yep - someone will put that jerk in his place.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Babybear on April 09, 2010, 11:46:45 AM
    Judge Strickland better get tougher in his courtroom.

    I so agree.........one time I accompanied a friend to court for her divorce...just for moral support...I was sitting in the gallery wile the attorneys and my friend and her husband were ordered to go into a room and work something out. I was just sitting there and suddenly the judge sends the bailiff back to ask me to come forward. The judge wanted to know who I was, why I was there and told me my charm bracelet was a distraction and strongly suggested I remove it or LEAVE HIS COURT ROOM!! ::MonkeyShocked::

    Good Morning Sunny and NRCR--and all others.

    I pass by three courtrooms in the courthouse here when I have to renew my auto registration.  Every one of them has a picture of a cellphone in a circle with a diagonal slash.  No cellphones in court here.  Also, I don't know if a cellphone has metal parts or not, mine appear to be all plastic, but if there is metal how do they get through the metal detector?  There isn't a picture of gum, but I think a photo in a circle with  of Cindy chomping gum with a slash would be appropriate.

    In another post, Sunny, you said that Strickland might try to avoid confrontations and I think you have something there.  He has allowed a lot of things to happen in his courtroom which wouldn't be allowed in most other courtrooms.  The water bottles, the gum chomping.  I do recall someone saying that the bailiff told everyone to remove gum before court started on one occasion, but I don't remember which session it was.  Also, I remember when Cindy testified at the first bond hearing that the judge told the bailiff to hand her a tissue to remove her gum. Which he did and she did.  And you're right.  He does tend to issue his orders from behind his chamber door and not in open court. And while I agree with most of his decisions (As if that matters LOL) he does wait until after court to issue them. 

    I think that the judge should insist on some order in the court.  No cellphones, no gum chewing, and no water bottles.  Also, IMO, he should have his bailiff announce that if anyone wants to leave they should do so before court starts.  George has a habit of stomping out when something doesn't go his way.  Distracting and rude. 



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 11:48:32 AM
    Don't worry about Hornsby. The great majority see him for what he is, just another Defense Attorney who wants to claim the usual Police conspiracy..
    He stormed off in a sulk last time he was there, someone with greater intelligence than him proved him wrong and he couldn't handle it.  He won't be there long.


    He's using the WSers to do his leg work for him and then he will pick out what he wants from their input and bloviate about it.

    BLOVIATE THIS HORNSBY...I am an egomaniac tool, repeat it again over & over until you get that fact straight.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 11:49:22 AM
    Don't worry about Hornsby. The great majority see him for what he is, just another Defense Attorney who wants to claim the usual Police conspiracy..
    He stormed off in a sulk last time he was there, someone with greater intelligence than him proved him wrong and he couldn't handle it.  He won't be there long.

    Yep - someone will put that jerk in his place.

    I just might have to call in to his buddy's radio broadcast...that is if they have the guts to take the call


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 11:51:12 AM
    Taken from over there:

    Robyn Adams, Disc 2, Call #1

    w/ Dad

    R: Did you reschedule Maya's visit?

    Father says Maya is in L dorm. Robyn denies this. Robyn in L19...Dad recants and now says Maya is in F dorm.

    Talking about upcoming visit with dad.

    Robyn talking about the specifics of her prayer to release her of her fear.

    Both talking about Clay (Robyn's husband) and his experiences while incarcerated. (mundane stuff)


    Robyn: "tell Clay to keep praying and tell him about my Sky story."

    Dad: "Okay, yes m'am."

    Robyn: "That guy answered my prayers."

    Chit-chat about someone named Kim.

    LOTS of chit-chat about how badly she wants to come home and quoting scripture.

    Robyn: "I got in trouble today."

    Dad: "What'd ya do?"

    Robyn: "One of the girls...the girl next to me asked me a question and I answered her through the vent. I got yelled at for standing on the toilet"


    Dad: "Oh well"

    Robyn: "Well, the judge will see that though...that I got in trouble and I don't want that to be held against me."

    Dad: "How will the judge see that?"
    Robyn: "What do you mean? He looks at everything."
    Dad: "Yeah, but thats no big deal."
    Robyn: "Are you kidding me?"
    Dad: "What? Talking to somebody next to ya?" (next is unintelligible...something along the lines of 'flight')
    Robyn: "I know but Dad, I'm scared about everything."
    Dad: "Don't get paranoid. That is what satan wants you to do"

    More scripture quoted. Mom gets on the phone quoting scripture now. A LOT OF SCRIPTURE.


    Well, there it is...they talked thru the vents & LE also went thru the cells to see if it was possible...yup it was


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Western Observr on April 09, 2010, 11:52:33 AM
    Don't worry about Hornsby. The great majority see him for what he is, just another Defense Attorney who wants to claim the usual Police conspiracy..
    He stormed off in a sulk last time he was there, someone with greater intelligence than him proved him wrong and he couldn't handle it.  He won't be there long.

    Yep - someone will put that jerk in his place.

    I just might have to call in to his buddy's radio broadcast...that is if they have the guts to take the call

    Most of those call in shows are on a time delay- that way when someone calls in that proves the so called expert doesn't know diddly, they can screen it out...     but I say go for it!   ::MonkeyDance::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 11:54:39 AM
    Don't worry about Hornsby. The great majority see him for what he is, just another Defense Attorney who wants to claim the usual Police conspiracy..
    He stormed off in a sulk last time he was there, someone with greater intelligence than him proved him wrong and he couldn't handle it.  He won't be there long.

    Yep - someone will put that jerk in his place.

    I just might have to call in to his buddy's radio broadcast...that is if they have the guts to take the call

    Most of those call in shows are on a time delay- that way when someone calls in that proves the so called expert doesn't know diddly, they can screen it out...     but I say go for it!   ::MonkeyDance::

    Im gonna give it a go WO, cant guarantee they'll take the call

    THIS POST - arrogant & sarcastic    Why is this little man so defensive?

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    I don't understand why you would spend any time on these calls. What is your involvement in this case?
    Same as yours, why do you spend time here?
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    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Babybear on April 09, 2010, 11:57:09 AM
    You don't need to be a member of WS to read, only a member to read the private forums.


    Darn, Hornsby just now posted the links. I was hoping some of the members had already read them.....this is gonna be a long day.

    I can not stand WS.  I can not stand RHornsby.  The man is a total media w*ore.

    I read his first sentence in the first post on that thread and got no further.  Like Baez and the A's the man does not have a grasp of the English language.

    In his first sentence he is being all cute acting like Mission Impossible and saying here is your mission if you chose to "EXCEPT IT".  What ..he means ACCEPT..EXCEPT means just the opposite.  What a huge ego and a huge fool.

    I was banned at WS with Blink and a few others for the work I was doing on the wheeling and dealing on this case.  Anyone who puts Yuri down, posts on WS and is a lawyer and doesn't know the difference between accept and except is not worth my time.  And needless to say he is letting the little people do his work for him.

    He is a Waste, Huge Waste of my time.   I'll read them on my own thank you.

    Good morning, Gypsy.  I'm not a member of WS, never was, never asked to be.  I occasionally read there, but not regularly.  I have read a couple of things Hornsby posted and I agree about his lack of correct grammar and spelling.  IMO it makes a bad impression, particularly by one who is in a professional occupation and must write as a part of his livelihood, to not spell correctly.  There are several people  on the forums who are professionals, or claim to be, who can't spell.  I tend to pass them by.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 09, 2010, 11:59:21 AM
    You don't need to be a member of WS to read, only a member to read the private forums.


    Darn, Hornsby just now posted the links. I was hoping some of the members had already read them.....this is gonna be a long day.

    I can not stand WS.  I can not stand RHornsby.  The man is a total media w*ore.

    I read his first sentence in the first post on that thread and got no further.  Like Baez and the A's the man does not have a grasp of the English language.

    In his first sentence he is being all cute acting like Mission Impossible and saying here is your mission if you chose to "EXCEPT IT".  What ..he means ACCEPT..EXCEPT means just the opposite.  What a huge ego and a huge fool.

    I was banned at WS with Blink and a few others for the work I was doing on the wheeling and dealing on this case.  Anyone who puts Yuri down, posts on WS and is a lawyer and doesn't know the difference between accept and except is not worth my time.  And needless to say he is letting the little people do his work for him.

    He is a Waste, Huge Waste of my time.   I'll read them on my own thank you.

    I will choose you and Blink any day over those (you fill in the blank)   ::MonkeyCool::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 12:00:00 PM
    You don't need to be a member of WS to read, only a member to read the private forums.


    Darn, Hornsby just now posted the links. I was hoping some of the members had already read them.....this is gonna be a long day.

    I can not stand WS.  I can not stand RHornsby.  The man is a total media w*ore.

    I read his first sentence in the first post on that thread and got no further.  Like Baez and the A's the man does not have a grasp of the English language.

    In his first sentence he is being all cute acting like Mission Impossible and saying here is your mission if you chose to "EXCEPT IT".  What ..he means ACCEPT..EXCEPT means just the opposite.  What a huge ego and a huge fool.

    I was banned at WS with Blink and a few others for the work I was doing on the wheeling and dealing on this case.  Anyone who puts Yuri down, posts on WS and is a lawyer and doesn't know the difference between accept and except is not worth my time.  And needless to say he is letting the little people do his work for him.

    He is a Waste, Huge Waste of my time.   I'll read them on my own thank you.

    I will choose you and Blink any day over those (you fill in the blank)   ::MonkeyCool::

    Now, Trimm...dont tempt me LOL


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 09, 2010, 12:06:28 PM
    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-jailhouse-letters-20100409,0,1443956.story
    Casey Anthony’s jailhouse letters: Pen pal talked about friendship in recorded calls from jail
    Pen pal Robyn Adams talked about secret jailhouse letters in recorded phone calls to friends outside the jail.
     Orlando Sentinel

    10:33 a.m. EDT, April 9, 2010
     os-casey-anthony-jailhouse-letters-20100409

    Casey Anthony's pen pal at the Orange County Jail talked about the friendship in recorded jail phone calls, a news Web site is reporting.

    Robyn Adams, a convicted drug dealer who spent several months at the jail with Casey Anthony, told friends outside the jail about conversations she had with the accused child killer, according to MyFoxOrlando.com.

    Adams told a friend that on Dec. 11, 2008 — the day that Caylee Anthony's remains were found near the Anthony family home — that Casey Anthony was "very scared" that day.

    "She doesn't seem to be looking good," Adams says in one recording in a conversation with another woman. "I'm praying for her every day."

    Adams made about 800 recorded calls from the jail while she was there.

    Casey Anthony, 24, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her toddler, Caylee Marie Anthony. The child was missing for a month before her family reported her missing.

    Casey Anthony is being held without bond at the Orange County Jail and is in protective custody. Jail policy does not allow inmates in protective custody to have contact with other inmates.

    At least one corrections officer at the jail is under investigation for possibly allowing Casey Anthony and Adams to communicate.

    To read the story, click here.

    Check back for more information.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 12:09:24 PM
    I'm curious about Skye's calls, the rest I don't much care, jailhouse snitches, nothing new.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 12:16:11 PM
     ::MonkeyHaHa::

       
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    Most likely the same as yours. The same as mine. The same as the next poster. Many reasons.
    I would have to disagree ,Spangle. A criminal defense attorney who practices ( in the same district) defending clients against the very same LEO's and SA's he is now trying to discredit ,may very well have different motives than most sleuthers at WS. Just my opinion and observation.
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    I posted this in response to a person on my BLOG who is upset with me that I referred to needing "free help" and my dislike of Melich, Belich, et. al. But so everyone knows where my motives lie (no pun intended) here it is for everyone. If you don't like my motives, then don't help . . . but then why participate on a forum titled "WebSleuths?"
    I am quoting RH's post here:

    *QUOTE*Nicola,

    I have not reported Baez for “passing notes” because it is not a violation of any criminal law or rule of professional conduct – it is a violation of jail policy only.

    And while I agree that Baez’s misdeeds make all defense attorneys look bad, when people like Yuri Melich fall over themselves trying to create incriminating evidence – in a case that does not need it – those people undermine the very foundation of the United States Criminal Justice system.

    Finally, should I have lied to everyone and said I was posting the audio solely out of the goodness of my heart? That would have been an even bigger fraud. The truth is that there are over 1,000 calls averaging 15 minutes in length that I just obtained YESTERDAY.

    I could either (A) spend the rest of eternity listening to them or (B) enlist others to help me to see if we find anything. WHO KNOWS, we might find MORE incriminating information about Casey Anthony.

    So either help, or don’t help. But at least I tell it like it is unlike Melich, Belich, and Shaeffer. *QUOTE*



    Mr. Hornsby: You have accused Det. Melich of 'trying to create incriminating evidence' I assume you are talking about his supplemental report where he states that Robyn told him and Corp. Edwards that KC mentioned chloroform to her. Robyn also mentions this to SA Woehr and SAS Broadway, it is noted in the FDLE summary written by SA Woehr - are you also accusing them of trying to create incriminating evidence? Is this some sort of vast conspiracy cooked up by two different police agencies? Each report summarizes what Robyn said to both OCSO and FDLE before her sworn statement. During her sworn statement, she backs off the chloroform and just says 'stuff'.

    If 4 different people hear her say the same thing, and two of them write up what all 4 of them hear, how is this 'creating incriminating evidence'?

    I am trying to understand where you are going with this. I have no idea whether RA is a liar or not, I have not seen enough proof either way yet. How are FDLE and OCSO 'trying to create incriminating evidence' when they are reporting what was told to them. Are you accusing Det. Melich and SA Woehr of lying?
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    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 09, 2010, 12:23:19 PM

    I can not stand WS.  I can not stand RHornsby.  The man is a total media w*ore.

    I read his first sentence in the first post on that thread and got no further.  Like Baez and the A's the man does not have a grasp of the English language.

    In his first sentence he is being all cute acting like Mission Impossible and saying here is your mission if you chose to "EXCEPT IT".  What ..he means ACCEPT..EXCEPT means just the opposite.  What a huge ego and a huge fool.

    I was banned at WS with Blink and a few others for the work I was doing on the wheeling and dealing on this case.  Anyone who puts Yuri down, posts on WS and is a lawyer and doesn't know the difference between accept and except is not worth my time.  And needless to say he is letting the little people do his work for him.

    He is a Waste, Huge Waste of my time.   I'll read them on my own thank you.

    I got banned there with Blink when we contacted the attorney who was handling the donations and asked for a complete accounting under Florida law and reported back their answer. I got a short time out for reporting that then when I was posting my letter to the authorities asking for an investigation of the monies and the paypal accounts with the irregularities I had found, BOOM - I was permanently banned. The bank and the attorney both dropped them after some of the letters and I reported that so I guess they did not want the truth out there. I could have cared less as all of the better posters were banned about the same time, so I would not have stayed anyway. 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Babybear on April 09, 2010, 12:23:29 PM
    On a post a couple of pages back, and I'm sorry I don't remember who posted it, it was mentioned that Robyn or Maya had a nickname "Muffin" which Casey appropriated for herself in her letters.  It took some time to catch up this morning and I have to go out now for the rest of the day.  But what I think is ironic is that Casey always takes bits of other people's persona and makes them her own.  Her friend was studying to be an "Event planner" so that's what Casey was.  Tony was going to the local college, and so was Casey.  She took those pictures at Disney World to sell to tourists, which you could learn to do in 10 minutes, so now in her letters she's a photographer.  Anything anyone has thought up before, Casey claims as her own.  I can imagine having a conversation with Casey in which you would mention an idea and she would say, "Yes, I said that last week, or I thought of that two weeks ago.  In some ways it's sad that she had to validate her existance by claiming others' ideas and that she thought of it first, but it must be frustrating to deal with.

    Oh yes, JSM good show with Croatian.  Wish Hornsby could have seen that.  He'd probably wet his pants.

    See you later, guys.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 12:25:07 PM
    rhornsby 
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    Originally Posted by Meagain 
    "when people like Yuri Melich fall over themselves trying to create incriminating evidence – in a case that does not need it – those people undermine the very foundation of the United States Criminal Justice system."

    Uh... So Yuri, and "people like" him? Like who? Sgt Allen perhaps?

    Yuri and people like him (assuming you mean other LE in this case) are "trying to CREATE incriminating evidence" ????

     Wow. I'd like to know where THAT is coming from? How so? And yes, it's a very intense allegation.
    Q: Who is the only person that claims that Robyn Adams said Casey Anthony used Chloroform?
    Ans.: Yuri Melich.
    Problem: Robyn Adams never actually said that.

    Is he dense?   Trying to make a mountain of a mole hill?   The FACT is RA made references to several what Casey told her, and that cannot be taken away as nothing but what it is coming from her  - the truth to be determined, certainly not by him with his agenda   O and YES he DOES have an agenda


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 09, 2010, 12:25:44 PM
    You don't need to be a member of WS to read, only a member to read the private forums.


    Darn, Hornsby just now posted the links. I was hoping some of the members had already read them.....this is gonna be a long day.

    I can not stand WS.  I can not stand RHornsby.  The man is a total media w*ore.

    I read his first sentence in the first post on that thread and got no further.  Like Baez and the A's the man does not have a grasp of the English language.

    In his first sentence he is being all cute acting like Mission Impossible and saying here is your mission if you chose to "EXCEPT IT".  What ..he means ACCEPT..EXCEPT means just the opposite.  What a huge ego and a huge fool.

    I was banned at WS with Blink and a few others for the work I was doing on the wheeling and dealing on this case.  Anyone who puts Yuri down, posts on WS and is a lawyer and doesn't know the difference between accept and except is not worth my time.  And needless to say he is letting the little people do his work for him.

    He is a Waste, Huge Waste of my time.   I'll read them on my own thank you.

    I will choose you and Blink any day over those (you fill in the blank)   ::MonkeyCool::

    Now, Trimm...dont tempt me LOL

    Hah, hah...TY trimm and Capp

    Funny thing is that everything that we had uncovered at that early date..sept-oct 08 has turned out to be true.  Hornsby is a classless jerk just like Baez.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 09, 2010, 12:28:35 PM
    Don't worry about Hornsby. The great majority see him for what he is, just another Defense Attorney who wants to claim the usual Police conspiracy..
    He stormed off in a sulk last time he was there, someone with greater intelligence than him proved him wrong and he couldn't handle it.  He won't be there long.

    If you notice he will not post that crap here because people here are much more informed and have the links to back up what they know. He could only get by with it on WS and that is why he puts that out there.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 12:29:41 PM
     Holloway – Call #2

    Cecelia talks to her daughter, Char. They discuss the telephone arrangements. Char tells her she loves her. Cecelia complains that she is not getting visitors.
    Cecelia and Lamar ***** back and forth about whether she can refuse to take medication while in jail. She does not want to take medications but they want her to take it. Lamar tells her she can refuse the medication without consequence by saying it makes her too sleepy. She says she can’t do that or it will go against her at her hearing.

    General discussion of anti-psychotic medications with Lamar referring to them as “just like taking dope” and Cecelia agrees with this.
    Cecelia states she discussed how groggy meds make her feel with psychiatrist that morning and psychiatrist said she would start her on a lower dose.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 12:30:31 PM
    O BOY!

    Hornsby just made a grave error right now by this post:

    rhornsby 
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    To whomever,

    I will leave the Melich topic alone, save this point - which I have said long before: He is not very thorough with his investigation and engages in actions that are more likely to legally undermine the case than advance it.

    If you have further Melich discussion, start a different thread.
    **
    Im making a phone call - this man is making baseless & serious allegations, slandering YM publicly...o no this will not stand as is!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 12:30:56 PM
    Don't worry about Hornsby. The great majority see him for what he is, just another Defense Attorney who wants to claim the usual Police conspiracy..
    He stormed off in a sulk last time he was there, someone with greater intelligence than him proved him wrong and he couldn't handle it.  He won't be there long.

    If you notice he will not post that crap here because people here are much more informed and have the links to back up what they know. He could only get by with it on WS and that is why he puts that out there.
    And over there you have a mod that jumps on you like a nun in grade school for talking out of place  ::MonkeyEek:: I keep thinking I'm in grade school over there.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 12:35:55 PM
    Don't worry about Hornsby. The great majority see him for what he is, just another Defense Attorney who wants to claim the usual Police conspiracy..
    He stormed off in a sulk last time he was there, someone with greater intelligence than him proved him wrong and he couldn't handle it.  He won't be there long.

    If you notice he will not post that crap here because people here are much more informed and have the links to back up what they know. He could only get by with it on WS and that is why he puts that out there.
    And over there you have a mod that jumps on you like a nun in grade school for talking out of place  ::MonkeyEek:: I keep thinking I'm in grade school over there.


    Exactly why my name was never going to appear there, in addition to what I read took place with Cindy...ridiculous.    I just made a phone call & left a voice mall so that this idiot's slander is known.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 12:36:37 PM
    I'm waiting for the answer, someone asked if this is Hornsby's professional opinion, or a personal opinion of Melich? There is bad blood between the two I would venture.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 12:36:53 PM
    Don't worry about Hornsby. The great majority see him for what he is, just another Defense Attorney who wants to claim the usual Police conspiracy..
    He stormed off in a sulk last time he was there, someone with greater intelligence than him proved him wrong and he couldn't handle it.  He won't be there long.

    If you notice he will not post that crap here because people here are much more informed and have the links to back up what they know. He could only get by with it on WS and that is why he puts that out there.
    And over there you have a mod that jumps on you like a nun in grade school for talking out of place  ::MonkeyEek:: I keep thinking I'm in grade school over there.


    Exactly why my name was never going to appear there, in addition to what I read took place with Cindy...ridiculous.    I just made a phone call & left a voice mall so that this idiot's slander is known.

    Correction   mail not mall....good grief, could you tell Im just a tad bit peeved!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 09, 2010, 12:39:52 PM
    Don't worry about Hornsby. The great majority see him for what he is, just another Defense Attorney who wants to claim the usual Police conspiracy..
    He stormed off in a sulk last time he was there, someone with greater intelligence than him proved him wrong and he couldn't handle it.  He won't be there long.

    If you notice he will not post that crap here because people here are much more informed and have the links to back up what they know. He could only get by with it on WS and that is why he puts that out there.
    And over there you have a mod that jumps on you like a nun in grade school for talking out of place  ::MonkeyEek:: I keep thinking I'm in grade school over there.


    Exactly why my name was never going to appear there, in addition to what I read took place with Cindy...ridiculous.    I just made a phone call & left a voice mall so that this idiot's slander is known.

    Correction   mail not mall....good grief, could you tell Im just a tad bit peeved!

    I decided to make a couple of calls myself. Let him answer for his libelous statements.

    WS was so concerned about "our" letters to the authorities on the donations where is their concern for libel?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: joesamas mama on April 09, 2010, 12:40:01 PM
    On a post a couple of pages back, and I'm sorry I don't remember who posted it, it was mentioned that Robyn or Maya had a nickname "Muffin" which Casey appropriated for herself in her letters.  It took some time to catch up this morning and I have to go out now for the rest of the day.  But what I think is ironic is that Casey always takes bits of other people's persona and makes them her own.  Her friend was studying to be an "Event planner" so that's what Casey was.  Tony was going to the local college, and so was Casey.  She took those pictures at Disney World to sell to tourists, which you could learn to do in 10 minutes, so now in her letters she's a photographer.  Anything anyone has thought up before, Casey claims as her own.  I can imagine having a conversation with Casey in which you would mention an idea and she would say, "Yes, I said that last week, or I thought of that two weeks ago.  In some ways it's sad that she had to validate her existance by claiming others' ideas and that she thought of it first, but it must be frustrating to deal with.

    Oh yes, JSM good show with Croatian.  Wish Hornsby could have seen that.  He'd probably wet his pants.

    See you later, guys.
    You are right KC is a parrot of whatever the scene needs to fit her lifestyle.

    Glad you liked the Croatian, I wish Mr Hornsby would have seen it as well.  ::MonkeyWink::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 09, 2010, 12:40:33 PM
    Hornsby is so dense he can't see the forest for the trees.  The prosecution has let the letters and phone calls out to show Casey  "We got ya Muffin" . This is their way of putting the screws to Casey..to show people who this liar, murderess is and what she is capable of.  Now she has to be very frightened about what else they have evidence on and know.  And who else is sitting out there with some knowledge that she may have befriended after Robyn left?  She is outed now..and nobody hates that more then Casey.

    Robyn uses Casey, Casey uses everyone.  Casey just forgot she was in jail with other people who knew how to play her game..she wasn't at the garden club meeting. 

    Hornsby keeps forgetting the evidence and specifics in this case..never reporting her daughter missing, her Mom only reporting it after 31 days and a car that seemed like death, duck taping her daughters mouth and nose, dumping her body in a woods up the street, searching for her daughter in tattoo parlors and bars and wet t-shirt contests, plant and insect evidence that show the body was there from sometime in June, things belonging to the A house used to wrap and conceal the body, body fluids in her car trunk..the list is endless.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 12:42:30 PM
    I'm waiting for the answer, someone asked if this is Hornsby's professional opinion, or a personal opinion of Melich? There is bad blood between the two I would venture.

    Apparently so, but it gives this bitter & jealous tool absolutely no right to recklessly slander the man publicly with NO proof & nothing concrete he's willing to base it on...his accusation broadened to a very serious level of which as an attorney he should know better.   YM evidently through his professional work probably provided testimony & gathered evidence that convicted one too many of Hornsby's clients...a practice he seemingly has put to the wayside to become a mediawhore with idiot commentary versus sound legal commentary.    Forgive me, Im rather riled up...its good for him Im not anywhere that he would have to face me right about now.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 09, 2010, 12:42:45 PM


    OK, Ive stated this before - this wannabe is a moron & this confirms it.   Why the heck would he go out of his way to attempt to discredit a lead detective in a homicide case involving the murder of a babygirl?

    "Those are contradictory words written by Melich. Generally, prosecutors rely on sworn testimony and not on what a detective writes in a summary, but now the possibility exists that the defense could exploit the detective’s credibility at trial."

    First off, those are NOT contradictory words by Yuri, they are based on what was told to him by Adams in interview.   Secondly, I am presently absolutely irate with this tool insinuating that this man, a lead detective in the case would say something that wasnt true to what he was told or that his credibility should be questioned....this makes me believe that his professed new found friendship with JS is a big exaggeration & maybe even possibly a lie.   I AM FURIOUS!

    Have you read the things R Hornsby has said about Melich at WS?  ::MonkeyMad::



    I don't know why Hornsby hasn't become a part of the defense team since he believes Caylee died accidently.          ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Ive said it before, this confirms it....this man is a huge bitter pill, he acts like a jealous school girl & in his mind is so full of himself that all he does is criticize others so he appears (at least to himself) above them.  At this point his comments about YM have me already livid.   I dont care if he thinks it was an accident or not, well frankly how anyone can say that with a straight face is beyond me given what we know so far...his constant interjection into this case just to mock where he can is a distraction, if not downright attempting to obstruct the truth.     I have a feeling this ahole is going to have me beyond livid shortly.

    Do you suppose it is really Baez or someone from his "team" ?? That was always my take on that kook.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 12:43:28 PM
    I'm waiting for the answer, someone asked if this is Hornsby's professional opinion, or a personal opinion of Melich? There is bad blood between the two I would venture.

    Not sure Ill get an answer per se, the call was to inform but its possible he'll ring me back.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 09, 2010, 12:48:19 PM
    On a post a couple of pages back, and I'm sorry I don't remember who posted it, it was mentioned that Robyn or Maya had a nickname "Muffin" which Casey appropriated for herself in her letters.  It took some time to catch up this morning and I have to go out now for the rest of the day.  But what I think is ironic is that Casey always takes bits of other people's persona and makes them her own.  Her friend was studying to be an "Event planner" so that's what Casey was.  Tony was going to the local college, and so was Casey.  She took those pictures at Disney World to sell to tourists, which you could learn to do in 10 minutes, so now in her letters she's a photographer.  Anything anyone has thought up before, Casey claims as her own.  I can imagine having a conversation with Casey in which you would mention an idea and she would say, "Yes, I said that last week, or I thought of that two weeks ago.  In some ways it's sad that she had to validate her existence by claiming others' ideas and that she thought of it first, but it must be frustrating to deal with.

    Oh yes, JSM good show with Croatian.  Wish Hornsby could have seen that.  He'd probably wet his pants.

    See you later, guys.
    You are right KC is a parrot of whatever the scene needs to fit her lifestyle.

    Glad you liked the Croatian, I wish Mr Hornsby would have seen it as well.  ::MonkeyWink::

    So true all of this.

    One reason I believe Robyn is the fact that Casey does take bits and pieces from others lives to assimilate with them and make it part of her story.

    Remember she told Robyn, per Robyn's interview, that Cindy got the chloroform from work. Interesting because part of Robyn's charges were that she worked for a surgeon and illegally got oxycotin scripts for her husband.  So it is believable to me she told Robyn that because she was mad at her Mom and knew this was a jeopardy to her nursing license and Robyn would believe that because Robyn had done something similar.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 12:49:39 PM
    I'm waiting for the answer, someone asked if this is Hornsby's professional opinion, or a personal opinion of Melich? There is bad blood between the two I would venture.

    Not sure Ill get an answer per se, the call was to inform but its possible he'll ring me back.
    No I'm waiting for an answer from Hornsby, the poster that asked this question, so far no answer. I know nothing of Yuri Melich only from this case, nothing. Wonder if there are people that live in the area that know things about him that is not up too par, I'm just asking. I have nothing against this man at all, just curious why Hornsby threw this all out there. Melich to me and the other detectives sure seem like they have done a good job.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Western Observr on April 09, 2010, 12:51:44 PM
    Well blaming the Police for trying to pin it on the criminal is Defense Attorney 101 isn't it?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 12:52:31 PM
    I'm waiting for the answer, someone asked if this is Hornsby's professional opinion, or a personal opinion of Melich? There is bad blood between the two I would venture.

    Not sure Ill get an answer per se, the call was to inform but its possible he'll ring me back.
    No I'm waiting for an answer from Hornsby, the poster that asked this question, so far no answer. I know nothing of Yuri Melich only from this case, nothing. Wonder if there are people that live in the area that know things about him that is not up too par, I'm just asking. I have nothing against this man at all, just curious why Hornsby threw this all out there. Melich to me and the other detectives sure seem like they have done a good job.

    O OK, yea curious what is taking him so long to respond with his usual sarcasm.   Well, he shouldnt be interjecting crap into a murder case based on a vendetta if his crap is baseless & has nothing to do with this case whatsoever, that goes without saying.    I hardly think this tool should be the one talking about one's character by a long shot.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 12:52:57 PM
    Well blaming the Police for trying to pin it on the criminal is Defense Attorney 101 isn't it?
    He throws that crap out there, and now he isn't around to answer why he said that about the police. I really want to know why he did that.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 12:56:46 PM
    I went to InSessions because sometimes Hornsby posts over there, nothing.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 12:56:46 PM
    Well blaming the Police for trying to pin it on the criminal is Defense Attorney 101 isn't it?
    He throws that crap out there, and now he isn't around to answer why he said that about the police. I really want to know why he did that.

    Im going with jealous man with the temper tantrum of a toddler who has swallowed one too many bitter pills....just saying.  WHo knows, he might be busy with a phone call at the moment 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 01:10:42 PM
    They separated the threads to organize calls - and of course comments questioning their guest are being discouraged by lame excuses of "stay on topic please"

    However Im in CB's calls

    Call #1

    Opens with CH crying and asks to talk to Lamar. Arguments about why she is in there. CH says it is because she didn't get anything delivered to her because she wasn't using "Holloway as name". She didn't attend class as ordered so she is in jail for 45 days.

    about 1/2 halw through the part re: KC comes when they are discussing when she got in and why she isn't getting any visitors:

    CH: KC released same day I got in here. M* F* . KC with the girl . The girl who killed the baby. They are just finding out she killed her.
    Lamar – ohh ohh.
    C: That B&&. With DNA they are finding out. The man who paid the $50K on bail he pulled his money back.
    Lamar: Oh KC that’s right I forgot about that chick well I knew she killed that baby.
    C: I knew that too.
    L: Beat her ass.
    C: No
    L: Just Kidding She’s a nice girl. I bail her out next.
    C: Ain’t no.. What?
    L: Just Kidding I don’t got no money for that. ..
    Call #3
    Char answers. Cecelia wants to know if she has called (unknown name) and she said she did and she left
    Lamar is Char’s father. He talked to sister Krystal who told him that she had given Cecelia $50 recently and also told him that Cecelia had sold his computer.
    Lamar’s computer is in a pawn shop. He talked to someone there and they said it is no longer there, that they gave it back to the owner. He told them he is the owner. He tells Cecelia he may go in there and get it, that he knows how to “get in there”. She warns him not to do anything that will get him in trouble, warning him “it is not worth it”.
    Further discussion of meds with Lamar stating “they will give you a habit while you are in there and then you will come out with a habit”. She asks if Jarrett is mad at her. (Don’t know who his is.)
    Char has failed 3 out of 7 subjects in school and has missed 31 days of school this year and there is a problem with her graduating.
    She does not have a lawyer yet. Does not know who her Public Defender will be.
    Discussion of sister Krystal/River. Lamar says “She lies, you know she lies” and Cecelia agrees “Yeah, she lies.”
    Cecelia is trying to get ahold of someone who has pictures she wants sent to her “for some comfort”.
    She tells Lamar that she loves him and then asks if he loves her too and he kind of grunts an acknowledgement back at her.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 01:11:45 PM
    When posters make a claim such as yours on this web site, it is common courtesy to let readers know if the post is factual or opinion. Since you refuse to offer any information to substantiate your claim, I’ll consider it opinion which raises a question regarding your motive. Are you trying to jump on the Casey gravy train (maybe get some more TV appearances) or are you jockeying for a place on the defense team?

    Another little tidbit, most of us know when to start a new thread so there is no need to take orders from you simply because you won’t answer a question about something you stated as fact. Nice try though.
    From WS poster Jon Burrows


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 01:14:05 PM
    I think he may have ran with his pitiful tail between his legs, sure doesnt seem like anything else is between them  ::MonkeyEek:: did I say that?!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

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    Quote:
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    "when people like Yuri Melich fall over themselves trying to create incriminating evidence – in a case that does not need it – those people undermine the very foundation of the United States Criminal Justice system."

    This is a very serious accusation. What incriminating evidence did Melich try to create?
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rhornsby 
    To whomever,

    I will leave the Melich topic alone, save this point - which I have said long before: He is not very thorough with his investigation and engages in actions that are more likely to legally undermine the case than advance it.

    If you have further Melich discussion, start a different thread.
    When posters make a claim such as yours on this web site, it is common courtesy to let readers know if the post is factual or opinion. Since you refuse to offer any information to substantiate your claim, I’ll consider it opinion which raises a question regarding your motive. Are you trying to jump on the Casey gravy train (maybe get some more TV appearances) or are you jockeying for a place on the defense team?

    Another little tidbit, most of us know when to start a new thread so there is no need to take orders from you simply because you won’t answer a question about something you stated as fact. Nice try though.

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    Originally Posted by rhornsby 
    Q: Who is the only person that claims that Robyn Adams said Casey Anthony used Chloroform?
    Ans.: Yuri Melich.
    Problem: Robyn Adams never actually said that.
    Please link where it states that RA never said that to Det. Melich during the interview with her.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 01:14:32 PM
    Norose, im giggling


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 01:17:15 PM
     ::MonkeyHaHa:: I want him to address these accusations, those are bad accusations to make.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: zoeandme on April 09, 2010, 01:17:36 PM
    Don't worry about Hornsby. The great majority see him for what he is, just another Defense Attorney who wants to claim the usual Police conspiracy..
    He stormed off in a sulk last time he was there, someone with greater intelligence than him proved him wrong and he couldn't handle it.  He won't be there long.

    If you notice he will not post that crap here because people here are much more informed and have the links to back up what they know. He could only get by with it on WS and that is why he puts that out there.
    And over there you have a mod that jumps on you like a nun in grade school for talking out of place  ::MonkeyEek:: I keep thinking I'm in grade school over there.

    OMG....she does, doesn't she?  One of the reasons I rarely post there.  I don't know if she's pro-Anthony or what, but she annoys me.  And she's there every...single...post to tell someone off.   ::MonkeyJnBox::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 01:18:13 PM
    ::MonkeyHaHa:: I want him to address these accusations, those are bad accusations to make.

    You better believe it but YM is now aware of them.... ::MonkeyWink::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Western Observr on April 09, 2010, 01:19:52 PM
    I told you! That is so typical of him, he puts these ridiculous accusations out there, then as soon as someone challenges him to prove what he's saying he backs off or gets pouty and disappears.  He is a LOT like Baez.  I didn't know much about Defense Attorneys before I started following this case, but they are all cut from the same cloth it seems to me. He, Jayne Weintraub and Baez, they all are like d*** clones.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 01:20:47 PM
    Don't worry about Hornsby. The great majority see him for what he is, just another Defense Attorney who wants to claim the usual Police conspiracy..
    He stormed off in a sulk last time he was there, someone with greater intelligence than him proved him wrong and he couldn't handle it.  He won't be there long.

    If you notice he will not post that crap here because people here are much more informed and have the links to back up what they know. He could only get by with it on WS and that is why he puts that out there.
    And over there you have a mod that jumps on you like a nun in grade school for talking out of place  ::MonkeyEek:: I keep thinking I'm in grade school over there.

    OMG....she does, doesn't she?  One of the reasons I rarely post there.  I don't know if she's pro-Anthony or what, but she annoys me.  And she's there every...single...post to tell someone off.   ::MonkeyJnBox::
    I just go nuts, one can hardly say anything, that is why I don't post.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: zoeandme on April 09, 2010, 01:21:07 PM
    When posters make a claim such as yours on this web site, it is common courtesy to let readers know if the post is factual or opinion. Since you refuse to offer any information to substantiate your claim, I’ll consider it opinion which raises a question regarding your motive. Are you trying to jump on the Casey gravy train (maybe get some more TV appearances) or are you jockeying for a place on the defense team?

    Another little tidbit, most of us know when to start a new thread so there is no need to take orders from you simply because you won’t answer a question about something you stated as fact. Nice try though.
    From WS poster Jon Burrows


     ::MonkeyDance::  Kudos to the Jon Burrows poster.  I missed that one.  But he/she is right on target!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Western Observr on April 09, 2010, 01:21:08 PM
    Don't worry about Hornsby. The great majority see him for what he is, just another Defense Attorney who wants to claim the usual Police conspiracy..
    He stormed off in a sulk last time he was there, someone with greater intelligence than him proved him wrong and he couldn't handle it.  He won't be there long.

    If you notice he will not post that crap here because people here are much more informed and have the links to back up what they know. He could only get by with it on WS and that is why he puts that out there.
    And over there you have a mod that jumps on you like a nun in grade school for talking out of place  ::MonkeyEek:: I keep thinking I'm in grade school over there.

    OMG....she does, doesn't she?  One of the reasons I rarely post there.  I don't know if she's pro-Anthony or what, but she annoys me.  And she's there every...single...post to tell someone off.   ::MonkeyJnBox::

    No, not pro-Anthony I don't think- but she swoons all over the place whenever Hornsby shows up, gushing at how they appreciate his input etc-   yuck.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 01:22:44 PM
    I told you! That is so typical of him, he puts these ridiculous accusations out there, then as soon as someone challenges him to prove what he's saying he backs off or gets pouty and disappears.  He is a LOT like Baez.  I didn't know much about Defense Attorneys before I started following this case, but they are all cut from the same cloth it seems to me. He, Jayne Weintraub and Baez, they all are like d*** clones.
    I do, and while some are very good, and wouldn't play such stupid games, all this bs gives defense lawyers a bad name. Hornsby must have ran off and is crying to his new wife  ::MonkeyTongue::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 09, 2010, 01:23:50 PM
    http://www.wesh.com/news/23101635/detail.html
    Phone Calls From Anthony Pen Pal Released
    Robyn Adams Discusses Anthony With Her Father

    POSTED: 11:41 am EDT April 9, 2010
    UPDATED: 12:08 pm EDT April 9, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. --
    Audio recordings of phone calls in the case against Casey Anthony were released on Friday.

    The recordings were made public just days after hundreds of pages of jailhouse letters between Anthony and her jailhouse pen pal, Robyn Adams.

    The calls released are between Adams and her father, and Adams talked about the Anthony letters.

    The calls were recorded in 2008 and 2009 while Adams was an inmate at the Orange County Jail.

    Adams told investigators from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement that she had no ulterior motive in her months-long friendship with Anthony.

    But instead of flushing the letters as she had promised Anthony, Adams kept them and sent them to her father.
    In a phone call, you hear him coaching her about what's called substantial assistance. As a federal prisoner, if you help the government, you can apply to have your sentence reduced. Adams is serving 10 years for trafficking marijuana.

        * Adams' Father: You may be eligible for substantial assistance.
        * Adams: Yes, but I think it's a safety valve.
        * Adams' Father: Substantial Assistance is what you need to get.
        * Adams: Keep praying for it, Daddy.

    What remains unanswered is whether the FDLE knew about the dozens of recorded calls before wrapping up their investigation into the matter and coming to the conclusion that Adams was not trying to get a break on her sentence by befriending Anthony.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 01:23:58 PM
    I told you! That is so typical of him, he puts these ridiculous accusations out there, then as soon as someone challenges him to prove what he's saying he backs off or gets pouty and disappears.  He is a LOT like Baez.  I didn't know much about Defense Attorneys before I started following this case, but they are all cut from the same cloth it seems to me. He, Jayne Weintraub and Baez, they all are like d*** clones.
    I do, and while some are very good, and wouldn't play such stupid games, all this bs gives defense lawyers a bad name. Hornsby must have ran off and is crying to his new wife  ::MonkeyTongue::

    She probably told him to STFU and went shopping...I give it a year


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 01:25:51 PM

    bunchy bunchy is online now
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    Here is your mission Websleuths, if you choose to except it.

    Hopefully you saw Fox 35 tonight when Shannon Butler broke the news that Robyn Adams is a liar.

    I have all the jail calls for Adams, Benhaida, and Derkovic and now I need your help.

    I need people to listen to the calls and then give a BRIEF synopsis of what each call contains.

    There is 1 CD for Cecelia Benhaida who was incarcerated under the name Cecelia Holloway.

    There is 1 CD for Maya Derkovic which is mostly in a language I do not recognize.

    There are 4 CDs for Robyn Adams (over 800 calls) - 1 of the CDs is unreadable.

    I need people to listen to the WAV files and report if there is anything Casey Anthony related or if it is just "drivel."

    So the purpose of this thread will be only for people who will agree to help and then for those people to post their findings here.

    I will be releasing the download link at 11:00 a.m. tomorrow (need to give certain news stations I am friendly with a head start).

    So if you are willing to help, be here at 11 a.m. tomorrow!
    (I believe the "mission" is to get all of the very intelligent forum members here to do the defenses work for them. My question is why. )   ::MonkeyCool:: Thanks Bunchy for your reply


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 01:28:19 PM
    http://www.wesh.com/news/23101635/detail.html
    Phone Calls From Anthony Pen Pal Released
    Robyn Adams Discusses Anthony With Her Father

    POSTED: 11:41 am EDT April 9, 2010
    UPDATED: 12:08 pm EDT April 9, 2010
    ORLANDO, Fla. --
    Audio recordings of phone calls in the case against Casey Anthony were released on Friday.

    The recordings were made public just days after hundreds of pages of jailhouse letters between Anthony and her jailhouse pen pal, Robyn Adams.

    The calls released are between Adams and her father, and Adams talked about the Anthony letters.

    The calls were recorded in 2008 and 2009 while Adams was an inmate at the Orange County Jail.

    Adams told investigators from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement that she had no ulterior motive in her months-long friendship with Anthony.

    But instead of flushing the letters as she had promised Anthony, Adams kept them and sent them to her father.
    In a phone call, you hear him coaching her about what's called substantial assistance. As a federal prisoner, if you help the government, you can apply to have your sentence reduced. Adams is serving 10 years for trafficking marijuana.

        * Adams' Father: You may be eligible for substantial assistance.
        * Adams: Yes, but I think it's a safety valve.
        * Adams' Father: Substantial Assistance is what you need to get.
        * Adams: Keep praying for it, Daddy.

    What remains unanswered is whether the FDLE knew about the dozens of recorded calls before wrapping up their investigation into the matter and coming to the conclusion that Adams was not trying to get a break on her sentence by befriending Anthony.

    Well duh, of course she was BUT if what she has to say that relates to this case is indeed factual, her motive while will be largely weighed doesnt negate the factual information she provided.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: mymonkey on April 09, 2010, 01:36:11 PM
    Judge Strickland better get tougher in his courtroom.

    I so agree.........one time I accompanied a friend to court for her divorce...just for moral support...I was sitting in the gallery wile the attorneys and my friend and her husband were ordered to go into a room and work something out. I was just sitting there and suddenly the judge sends the bailiff back to ask me to come forward. The judge wanted to know who I was, why I was there and told me my charm bracelet was a distraction and strongly suggested I remove it or LEAVE HIS COURT ROOM!! ::MonkeyShocked::


    Hi Sunny and other Monkey friends ::HelloKitty::


    My first thought about your charm bracelet...was Sunny clapping her hands for her friend out of excitement. ::MonkeyKiss:: just joking.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 01:37:40 PM
       
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    Please link where it states that RA never said that to Det. Melich during the interview with her.
    In a transcript released, an investigator asked Adams whether Anthony admitted using chloroform on her daughter. Lab tests turned up chloroform in the trunk of a car Anthony used.

    Adams talked about Anthony using cold medications and antihistamines, but said the young mother was not specific about what she used to "knock her out."

    But the summary of the interview written by Detective Yuri Melich reported something different.

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...9.story?page=1


    This may be what Hornsby is bouncing off on like a kid in a candy store but what the OS regrets to report included in this statement is what RA verbally stated to both FDLE and LE in total, apparently 4 or more were involved in interviewing her...even so if YM used chloroform in his supplemental report I would venture to say there was a reason for it being justifiably being stated,  not just a blatant written embellishment...come on now. 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 01:45:53 PM
    I was just going to comment on that, I do believe that is why Hornsby is gone all nuts today. About was the word chloroform used by Adams or not.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Western Observr on April 09, 2010, 01:47:04 PM
    I told you! That is so typical of him, he puts these ridiculous accusations out there, then as soon as someone challenges him to prove what he's saying he backs off or gets pouty and disappears.  He is a LOT like Baez.  I didn't know much about Defense Attorneys before I started following this case, but they are all cut from the same cloth it seems to me. He, Jayne Weintraub and Baez, they all are like d*** clones.
    I do, and while some are very good, and wouldn't play such stupid games, all this bs gives defense lawyers a bad name. Hornsby must have ran off and is crying to his new wife  ::MonkeyTongue::

    She probably told him to STFU and went shopping...I give it a year

    He must have married someone with money- he certainly doesn't seem to spend too much time working for a living!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 01:48:28 PM
    I told you! That is so typical of him, he puts these ridiculous accusations out there, then as soon as someone challenges him to prove what he's saying he backs off or gets pouty and disappears.  He is a LOT like Baez.  I didn't know much about Defense Attorneys before I started following this case, but they are all cut from the same cloth it seems to me. He, Jayne Weintraub and Baez, they all are like d*** clones.
    I do, and while some are very good, and wouldn't play such stupid games, all this bs gives defense lawyers a bad name. Hornsby must have ran off and is crying to his new wife  ::MonkeyTongue::

    She probably told him to STFU and went shopping...I give it a year

    He must have married someone with money- he certainly doesn't seem to spend too much time working for a living!
    Probably another defense lawyer. He has not come back even though a thread was started to discuss the accusations on Melich, but now that thread has been closed  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 09, 2010, 01:52:19 PM
    I Agree with Hornsby about the idea of a conspiracy except I don’t believe LE is behind it. I don’t have proof, but I’m thinking the release of the info on Skye, River, Robyn and the others is a prelude to something big to include the Anthony’s being at the center of it as well as the defense being involved. It just can’t be an accident that GA was involved with River and that her sister Skye was busy passing notes and communicating with KC. Add to that the KC and Baez involvement in getting the Walsh attorneys to help Robyn with her case while they were a part of KC’s defense. Then the whole thing coming to light by Maya that was receiving visits from Robyn’s father. This whole thing stinks. Still trying to figure out what they are trying to accomplish and the ultimate goal. Right now I see huge media attention bringing the case back into the spotlight and also attempts to discredit LE and somehow implicate them in trying orchestrate some kind of jailhouse sting using inmates. My hope is that LE has got the goods on the manipulations going on behind the scenes and will be able to expose the ruse. Impatiently waiting for more to come out!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 01:58:56 PM
    I Agree with Hornsby about the idea of a conspiracy except I don’t believe LE is behind it. I don’t have proof, but I’m thinking the release of the info on Skye, River, Robyn and the others is a prelude to something big to include the Anthony’s being at the center of it as well as the defense being involved. It just can’t be an accident that GA was involved with River and that her sister Skye was busy passing notes and communicating with KC. Add to that the KC and Baez involvement in getting the Walsh attorneys to help Robyn with her case while they were a part of KC’s defense. Then the whole thing coming to light by Maya that was receiving visits from Robyn’s father. This whole thing stinks. Still trying to figure out what they are trying to accomplish and the ultimate goal. Right now I see huge media attention bringing the case back into the spotlight and also attempts to discredit LE and somehow implicate them in trying orchestrate some kind of jailhouse sting using inmates. My hope is that LE has got the goods on the manipulations going on behind the scenes and will be able to expose the ruse. Impatiently waiting for more to come out!

    N2 I totally agree that at the root of evil are the Anthonys & that twisted ideological defense team, nothing would shock me there with what we know already....looking forward to the day because it is coming.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Puzzler on April 09, 2010, 01:59:05 PM
    http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/8/zenaidas_lawyers_want_to_talk_with_caseys_pen_pal.html
     Zenaida’s Lawyers Want To Talk With Casey’s Pen Pal
    Thursday, April 08, 2010 7:14:21 PM
    Reported by Jacqueline Fell

    ORLANDO -- Attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez now want to talk with Casey Anthony's jailhouse pen pal in their civil case against Anthony.

    Gonzalez said Anthony ruined her reputation when she said "Zanny the Nanny" kidnapped her daughter.

    But Anthony's pen pal said Casey admitted there was no Zanny.
    Investigators interviewed Robyn Adams, who is the fellow inmate Anthony spoke to in jail and exchanged letters with.

    Adams said Anthony told her that Zenaida was the first name of a childhood friend.

    Attorney's representing Gonzalez told News 13 they want to talk with Adams, who is now in a federal prison.

    Gonzalez is suing Anthony for defamation.

    A trial date is set for May.

    hahahahaha...GO MORGAN!!

    Ooopsie!  Here we go again!  Loop-de-loop!  What were Baez's words: there's nothing damaging in the letters.  Ha Ha


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 09, 2010, 01:59:38 PM
    I Agree with Hornsby about the idea of a conspiracy except I don’t believe LE is behind it. I don’t have proof, but I’m thinking the release of the info on Skye, River, Robyn and the others is a prelude to something big to include the Anthony’s being at the center of it as well as the defense being involved. It just can’t be an accident that GA was involved with River and that her sister Skye was busy passing notes and communicating with KC. Add to that the KC and Baez involvement in getting the Walsh attorneys to help Robyn with her case while they were a part of KC’s defense. Then the whole thing coming to light by Maya that was receiving visits from Robyn’s father. This whole thing stinks. Still trying to figure out what they are trying to accomplish and the ultimate goal. Right now I see huge media attention bringing the case back into the spotlight and also attempts to discredit LE and somehow implicate them in trying orchestrate some kind of jailhouse sting using inmates. My hope is that LE has got the goods on the manipulations going on behind the scenes and will be able to expose the ruse. Impatiently waiting for more to come out!

     :smt045 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 09, 2010, 02:11:06 PM
    http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/casey-anthony-wesh-asks-about-pen-pals-motives.html
    Casey Anthony: WESH asks about pen pal’s motives
    Caylee and Casey Anthony, WESH, WFTV, WOFL — posted by halboedeker on April, 9 2010 1:17 PM
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    WOFL-Channel 35 first had the audio of calls from Robyn Adams about her jail pen pal Casey Anthony.

    WESH-Channel 2 explored the calls at noon today. WESH’s Bob Kealing noted that Adams’ father coached her on substantial assistance.

    Drug trafficker Adams is serving a 10-year sentence in federal prison, and substantial assistance could help her cut that time if she aided the state on the Anthony case. Adams befriended Anthony when they were in the Orange County Jail, and the Adams calls to family and friends were recorded in 2008 and 2009.

    Adams told her dad that substantial assistance could be “a safety valve.” “Keep praying for it daddy,” she told her father.

    What could that conversation mean?   

    “What remains unanswered is whether the FDLE knew about these dozens of recorded calls before wrapping up their investigation recently into this matter and coming to the conclusion that Adams was not trying to get a break on her own sentence,” Kealing said. “Adams’ motives in this could determine whether or not the potentially crucial information she got from Casey ever sees the light of day in Casey’s murder trial.”

    Adams has said that Anthony revealed to her that a child’s remains were found in a garbage bag with a blanket. An Orange County sheriff’s detective has written that those details hadn’t been made public at that time. Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter.

    Kealing promised more on the issue this afternoon. WFTV-Channel 9 also said it would offer a report on the Adams phone calls at 5 p.m.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 02:12:11 PM
    I Agree with Hornsby about the idea of a conspiracy except I don’t believe LE is behind it. I don’t have proof, but I’m thinking the release of the info on Skye, River, Robyn and the others is a prelude to something big to include the Anthony’s being at the center of it as well as the defense being involved. It just can’t be an accident that GA was involved with River and that her sister Skye was busy passing notes and communicating with KC. Add to that the KC and Baez involvement in getting the Walsh attorneys to help Robyn with her case while they were a part of KC’s defense. Then the whole thing coming to light by Maya that was receiving visits from Robyn’s father. This whole thing stinks. Still trying to figure out what they are trying to accomplish and the ultimate goal. Right now I see huge media attention bringing the case back into the spotlight and also attempts to discredit LE and somehow implicate them in trying orchestrate some kind of jailhouse sting using inmates. My hope is that LE has got the goods on the manipulations going on behind the scenes and will be able to expose the ruse. Impatiently waiting for more to come out!
    I think there is a conspiracy also, and the Skye and River fiasco is what makes me think so. I'm waiting impatiently also. Everything stinks.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 02:14:02 PM
    Thanks Trimm, I'll safely sit in my corner where I don't trust anybody in all of this  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 02:20:59 PM
    You don't need to be a member of WS to read, only a member to read the private forums.


    Darn, Hornsby just now posted the links. I was hoping some of the members had already read them.....this is gonna be a long day.

    I can not stand WS.  I can not stand RHornsby.  The man is a total media w*ore.

    I read his first sentence in the first post on that thread and got no further.  Like Baez and the A's the man does not have a grasp of the English language.

    In his first sentence he is being all cute acting like Mission Impossible and saying here is your mission if you chose to "EXCEPT IT".  What ..he means ACCEPT..EXCEPT means just the opposite.  What a huge ego and a huge fool.

    I was banned at WS with Blink and a few others for the work I was doing on the wheeling and dealing on this case.  Anyone who puts Yuri down, posts on WS and is a lawyer and doesn't know the difference between accept and except is not worth my time.  And needless to say he is letting the little people do his work for him.

    He is a Waste, Huge Waste of my time.   I'll read them on my own thank you.

    G DD WS's loss was our gain..........we get more of ya!!  I agree he is a waste, very unprofessional, juvenile and obviously not too busy in his chose profession!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 02:25:01 PM
    Judge Strickland better get tougher in his courtroom.

    I so agree.........one time I accompanied a friend to court for her divorce...just for moral support...I was sitting in the gallery wile the attorneys and my friend and her husband were ordered to go into a room and work something out. I was just sitting there and suddenly the judge sends the bailiff back to ask me to come forward. The judge wanted to know who I was, why I was there and told me my charm bracelet was a distraction and strongly suggested I remove it or LEAVE HIS COURT ROOM!! ::MonkeyShocked::

    Good Morning Sunny and NRCR--and all others.

    I pass by three courtrooms in the courthouse here when I have to renew my auto registration.  Every one of them has a picture of a cellphone in a circle with a diagonal slash.  No cellphones in court here.  Also, I don't know if a cellphone has metal parts or not, mine appear to be all plastic, but if there is metal how do they get through the metal detector?  There isn't a picture of gum, but I think a photo in a circle with  of Cindy chomping gum with a slash would be appropriate.

    In another post, Sunny, you said that Strickland might try to avoid confrontations and I think you have something there.  He has allowed a lot of things to happen in his courtroom which wouldn't be allowed in most other courtrooms.  The water bottles, the gum chomping.  I do recall someone saying that the bailiff told everyone to remove gum before court started on one occasion, but I don't remember which session it was.  Also, I remember when Cindy testified at the first bond hearing that the judge told the bailiff to hand her a tissue to remove her gum. Which he did and she did.  And you're right.  He does tend to issue his orders from behind his chamber door and not in open court. And while I agree with most of his decisions (As if that matters LOL) he does wait until after court to issue them. 

    I think that the judge should insist on some order in the court.  No cellphones, no gum chewing, and no water bottles.  Also, IMO, he should have his bailiff announce that if anyone wants to leave they should do so before court starts.  George has a habit of stomping out when something doesn't go his way.  Distracting and rude. 

    Hi BB, sorry to be so late responding. I had to walk away for a while!!   I am in complete agreement with all you said.........this is a DP MURDER case and I think the court should acknowledge that by insisting people respect the court and the victim.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 09, 2010, 02:25:20 PM
    What stinks is how come Hornsby seems to be the first and only person releasing all the calls?   


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 02:30:36 PM

    I can not stand WS.  I can not stand RHornsby.  The man is a total media w*ore.

    I read his first sentence in the first post on that thread and got no further.  Like Baez and the A's the man does not have a grasp of the English language.

    In his first sentence he is being all cute acting like Mission Impossible and saying here is your mission if you chose to "EXCEPT IT".  What ..he means ACCEPT..EXCEPT means just the opposite.  What a huge ego and a huge fool.

    I was banned at WS with Blink and a few others for the work I was doing on the wheeling and dealing on this case.  Anyone who puts Yuri down, posts on WS and is a lawyer and doesn't know the difference between accept and except is not worth my time.  And needless to say he is letting the little people do his work for him.

    He is a Waste, Huge Waste of my time.   I'll read them on my own thank you.

    I got banned there with Blink when we contacted the attorney who was handling the donations and asked for a complete accounting under Florida law and reported back their answer. I got a short time out for reporting that then when I was posting my letter to the authorities asking for an investigation of the monies and the paypal accounts with the irregularities I had found, BOOM - I was permanently banned. The bank and the attorney both dropped them after some of the letters and I reported that so I guess they did not want the truth out there. I could have cared less as all of the better posters were banned about the same time, so I would not have stayed anyway. 

    uuummmm interesting...But again, our gain!! ::MonkeyWink::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 02:31:29 PM
    What stinks is how come Hornsby seems to be the first and only person releasing all the calls?   
    I was wondering how he got the calls, and then the stuff he was saying on WS. Then it all hit me while I was doing yard work, this is the beginning of the defense and the shoddy police work routine, that most defense lawyers play. Let's attack the police, old routine but always seems to be thrown in there  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 09, 2010, 02:35:59 PM
    What stinks is how come Hornsby seems to be the first and only person releasing all the calls?   
    I was wondering how he got the calls, and then the stuff he was saying on WS. Then it all hit me while I was doing yard work, this is the beginning of the defense and the shoddy police work routine, that most defense lawyers play. Let's attack the police, old routine but always seems to be thrown in there  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Yep  Somehow I do believe the defense leaked thses calls to Hornsby before the rest of the press got them...any takers on that theory? 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 02:42:34 PM
    Judge Strickland better get tougher in his courtroom.

    I so agree.........one time I accompanied a friend to court for her divorce...just for moral support...I was sitting in the gallery wile the attorneys and my friend and her husband were ordered to go into a room and work something out. I was just sitting there and suddenly the judge sends the bailiff back to ask me to come forward. The judge wanted to know who I was, why I was there and told me my charm bracelet was a distraction and strongly suggested I remove it or LEAVE HIS COURT ROOM!! ::MonkeyShocked::


    Hi Sunny and other Monkey friends ::HelloKitty::


    My first thought about your charm bracelet...was Sunny clapping her hands for her friend out of excitement. ::MonkeyKiss:: just joking.

    Hi mm!  nope, but it sounds good..... ::MonkeyTongue::  and perhaps it was in some way distracting to the judge....who knows...but be assured I took it off at once! 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 02:43:43 PM
    What stinks is how come Hornsby seems to be the first and only person releasing all the calls?   
    I was wondering how he got the calls, and then the stuff he was saying on WS. Then it all hit me while I was doing yard work, this is the beginning of the defense and the shoddy police work routine, that most defense lawyers play. Let's attack the police, old routine but always seems to be thrown in there  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Very clearly, they already were denouncing the work that was done at the crime scene by investigators, soddy and all.   Go ahead try it, add the smoke & mirrors...there is no doubt in my mind & it has never nor ever will waver that the truth will prevail & justice will be served for Caylee.   Casey will be convicted, its just a matter of whether she'll get strapped to a gurney or die a miserable lonely old hag


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 02:46:10 PM
    I told you! That is so typical of him, he puts these ridiculous accusations out there, then as soon as someone challenges him to prove what he's saying he backs off or gets pouty and disappears.  He is a LOT like Baez.  I didn't know much about Defense Attorneys before I started following this case, but they are all cut from the same cloth it seems to me. He, Jayne Weintraub and Baez, they all are like d*** clones.
    I do, and while some are very good, and wouldn't play such stupid games, all this bs gives defense lawyers a bad name. Hornsby must have ran off and is crying to his new wife  ::MonkeyTongue::

    She probably told him to STFU and went shopping...I give it a year

    He must have married someone with money- he certainly doesn't seem to spend too much time working for a living!

    Probably another defense lawyer. He has not come back even though a thread was started to discuss the accusations on Melich, but now that thread has been closed  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    LOL....I am getting a big kick outta this...open a thread, close it, open another, close it.....what are they so afraid of?  Make me appreciate our KLASS and mods even more  ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 09, 2010, 02:47:58 PM
    What stinks is how come Hornsby seems to be the first and only person releasing all the calls?   
    I was wondering how he got the calls, and then the stuff he was saying on WS. Then it all hit me while I was doing yard work, this is the beginning of the defense and the shoddy police work routine, that most defense lawyers play. Let's attack the police, old routine but always seems to be thrown in there  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Yep  Somehow I do believe the defense leaked thses calls to Hornsby before the rest of the press got them...any takers on that theory? 

    Yes.I can see that happening. 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 02:48:31 PM
    What stinks is how come Hornsby seems to be the first and only person releasing all the calls?   
    I was wondering how he got the calls, and then the stuff he was saying on WS. Then it all hit me while I was doing yard work, this is the beginning of the defense and the shoddy police work routine, that most defense lawyers play. Let's attack the police, old routine but always seems to be thrown in there  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Yep  Somehow I do believe the defense leaked thses calls to Hornsby before the rest of the press got them...any takers on that theory? 
    Yes, and maybe Hornsby works for the defense and hasn't admitted it. This is all a set up.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 02:49:12 PM
    I Agree with Hornsby about the idea of a conspiracy except I don’t believe LE is behind it. I don’t have proof, but I’m thinking the release of the info on Skye, River, Robyn and the others is a prelude to something big to include the Anthony’s being at the center of it as well as the defense being involved. It just can’t be an accident that GA was involved with River and that her sister Skye was busy passing notes and communicating with KC. Add to that the KC and Baez involvement in getting the Walsh attorneys to help Robyn with her case while they were a part of KC’s defense. Then the whole thing coming to light by Maya that was receiving visits from Robyn’s father. This whole thing stinks. Still trying to figure out what they are trying to accomplish and the ultimate goal. Right now I see huge media attention bringing the case back into the spotlight and also attempts to discredit LE and somehow implicate them in trying orchestrate some kind of jailhouse sting using inmates. My hope is that LE has got the goods on the manipulations going on behind the scenes and will be able to expose the ruse. Impatiently waiting for more to come out!

    I agree.....I do not believe any of this is a coincidence.........especially the River/Skye thing....however I think Robyn threw a wrench into the plan by keeping the letters...........and I stll think there are more that will come out....more letters that is.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: espresso lover on April 09, 2010, 02:52:07 PM
    Good Day !!!

    I hope some smart monkeys can add to this ??
    My issues:
    1) the letters are not dated so how do we know the "when" of the blanket comment ??
    2)where are the letters that Robyn wrote back to Casey ? Have they been turned over to anyone ??

    The lack of dates is really bugging me.....


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 02:53:30 PM
    What stinks is how come Hornsby seems to be the first and only person releasing all the calls?   
    I was wondering how he got the calls, and then the stuff he was saying on WS. Then it all hit me while I was doing yard work, this is the beginning of the defense and the shoddy police work routine, that most defense lawyers play. Let's attack the police, old routine but always seems to be thrown in there  ::MonkeyNoNo::

     ::rhino:: ::rhino::  before I left I read where someone of there asked if RH was now part of the defense team ::MonkeyWink::  I am not going to go back and see if it was ever answered ,but I'd blindly bet...............NO!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: espresso lover on April 09, 2010, 02:54:00 PM
    I told you! That is so typical of him, he puts these ridiculous accusations out there, then as soon as someone challenges him to prove what he's saying he backs off or gets pouty and disappears.  He is a LOT like Baez.  I didn't know much about Defense Attorneys before I started following this case, but they are all cut from the same cloth it seems to me. He, Jayne Weintraub and Baez, they all are like d*** clones.
    I do, and while some are very good, and wouldn't play such stupid games, all this bs gives defense lawyers a bad name. Hornsby must have ran off and is crying to his new wife  ::MonkeyTongue::

    She probably told him to STFU and went shopping...I give it a year

    He must have married someone with money- he certainly doesn't seem to spend too much time working for a living!

    Probably another defense lawyer. He has not come back even though a thread was started to discuss the accusations on Melich, but now that thread has been closed  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    LOL....I am getting a big kick outta this...open a thread, close it, open another, close it.....what are they so afraid of?  Make me appreciate our KLASS and mods even more  ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4::

    The only thing they can be afraid of...."THE TRUTH" !!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 02:57:32 PM
    Good Day !!!

    I hope some smart monkeys can add to this ??
    My issues:
    1) the letters are not dated so how do we know the "when" of the blanket comment ??
    2)where are the letters that Robyn wrote back to Casey ? Have they been turned over to anyone ??

    The lack of dates is really bugging me.....

    Hi espresso, IIRC there were a few dated and some had references about the holidays and when KC was going to be in court and seeing her parents and the memorial, etc. and casey was evidently flushing Robyn's letter as they had both agreed to do............but Robyn didn't.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 03:03:01 PM
    What stinks is how come Hornsby seems to be the first and only person releasing all the calls?   
    I was wondering how he got the calls, and then the stuff he was saying on WS. Then it all hit me while I was doing yard work, this is the beginning of the defense and the shoddy police work routine, that most defense lawyers play. Let's attack the police, old routine but always seems to be thrown in there  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    Yep  Somehow I do believe the defense leaked thses calls to Hornsby before the rest of the press got them...any takers on that theory? 

    Yes.I can see that happening. 

    Of course the Anthonys & defense would have to place blame elsewhere, they do it every single time something damning comes up against Casey or themselves.   They get foiled to a certain degree every time, and the big one is coming in court.     I absolutely think that Hornsby is a defense mouthpiece both for this case & the defense of scum otherwise, but moreover he wants to be the next Mark Eiglarsh appearing on every national show that covers legal commentary....he needs to put the crack pipe down!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 03:04:55 PM
    I told you! That is so typical of him, he puts these ridiculous accusations out there, then as soon as someone challenges him to prove what he's saying he backs off or gets pouty and disappears.  He is a LOT like Baez.  I didn't know much about Defense Attorneys before I started following this case, but they are all cut from the same cloth it seems to me. He, Jayne Weintraub and Baez, they all are like d*** clones.
    I do, and while some are very good, and wouldn't play such stupid games, all this bs gives defense lawyers a bad name. Hornsby must have ran off and is crying to his new wife  ::MonkeyTongue::

    She probably told him to STFU and went shopping...I give it a year

    He must have married someone with money- he certainly doesn't seem to spend too much time working for a living!

    Probably another defense lawyer. He has not come back even though a thread was started to discuss the accusations on Melich, but now that thread has been closed  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    LOL....I am getting a big kick outta this...open a thread, close it, open another, close it.....what are they so afraid of?  Make me appreciate our KLASS and mods even more  ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4::

    The only thing they can be afraid of...."THE TRUTH" !!!
    Ya think, just maybe they read over here and elsewhere to see what people were saying about this moron & those inclined to hang on his slanderous words?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Tevye on April 09, 2010, 03:06:08 PM
    Judge Strickland better get tougher in his courtroom.
    I think Stan the Man is doing everything possible to make sure that this case is not appeable (well, except for the automatic appeals that come with death penalty sentences). Every time he grants one of the duhfense's stupid motion, I picture a hanging rope, getting thicker and thicker. I think he's giving them enough (and then some) rope to hang themselves...intentionally.

    I think he's pretty much decided that Ms. Anthony's only grounds to base an appeal on will be ineffective counsel.

    Oh, and btw, I have not yet heard back from the Fla Bar. They must be swamped with Bozo doo-doo!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 03:07:52 PM
    Good Day !!!

    I hope some smart monkeys can add to this ??
    My issues:
    1) the letters are not dated so how do we know the "when" of the blanket comment ??
    2)where are the letters that Robyn wrote back to Casey ? Have they been turned over to anyone ??

    The lack of dates is really bugging me.....

    The content sometimes gives a clue when they were written, but I hear ya.   Maybe the envelope when they were mailed to her father would at least date when they all were written before he received them.   Just goes to show that defendants awaiting trial & their inevitable fate arent as concerned with dates & time because they know they arent going anywhere....just something to ponder  ::MonkeyWink::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: espresso lover on April 09, 2010, 03:08:13 PM
    Good Day !!!

    I hope some smart monkeys can add to this ??
    My issues:
    1) the letters are not dated so how do we know the "when" of the blanket comment ??
    2)where are the letters that Robyn wrote back to Casey ? Have they been turned over to anyone ??

    The lack of dates is really bugging me.....

    Hi espresso, IIRC there were a few dated and some had references about the holidays and when KC was going to be in court and seeing her parents and the memorial, etc. and casey was evidently flushing Robyn's letter as they had both agreed to do............but Robyn didn't.

    Thanks Sunny, I am rather analytical in thinking and it gets the best of me at times and this case has really tested my brain and put it into overload mode to say the least. Nothing in this case surprises me due to what I have experienced in real life with some similarities and it is scary and I am sure Capp can relate to that re: CASA.....

    I do beleive there is so much more than we even begin to know and will have to wait until the trial for it to come out....


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Western Observr on April 09, 2010, 03:08:37 PM
    What stinks is how come Hornsby seems to be the first and only person releasing all the calls?   
    I was wondering how he got the calls, and then the stuff he was saying on WS. Then it all hit me while I was doing yard work, this is the beginning of the defense and the shoddy police work routine, that most defense lawyers play. Let's attack the police, old routine but always seems to be thrown in there  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    He makes a lot of very indiscreet comments about others in his profession, and now about Melich, which he states as fact, not opinion. He should be more careful, the laws of libel apply to him too.   I bet Yuri is getting some emails today. Kathi Belich too.... ::MonkeyWink::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 03:12:45 PM
    Judge Strickland better get tougher in his courtroom.
    I think Stan the Man is doing everything possible to make sure that this case is not appeable (well, except for the automatic appeals that come with death penalty sentences). Every time he grants one of the duhfense's stupid motion, I picture a hanging rope, getting thicker and thicker. I think he's giving them enough (and then some) rope to hang themselves...intentionally.

    I think he's pretty much decided that Ms. Anthony's only grounds to base an appeal on will be ineffective counsel.

    Oh, and btw, I have not yet heard back from the Fla Bar. They must be swamped with Bozo doo-doo!

    Not even ineffective counsel with Lyons, Baden, Mason on board & after the DP was put on the table Bozo was not considered the lead attorney, technically Lyons is - we dont know if she will continue to be on the case or she will leave due to Mason being on board - either way Bozo is not lead counsel, just the village idiot.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 03:17:55 PM
    What stinks is how come Hornsby seems to be the first and only person releasing all the calls?   
    I was wondering how he got the calls, and then the stuff he was saying on WS. Then it all hit me while I was doing yard work, this is the beginning of the defense and the shoddy police work routine, that most defense lawyers play. Let's attack the police, old routine but always seems to be thrown in there  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    He makes a lot of very indiscreet comments about others in his profession, and now about Melich, which he states as fact, not opinion. He should be more careful, the laws of libel apply to him too.   I bet Yuri is getting some emails today. Kathi Belich too.... ::MonkeyWink::

    Yes, they do & he's been stupid enough to say them publicly for all to see.   He cuts into everyone that opposes his twisted thought process and/or intimidates him or his perceived success, when someone acts the way he does it appears as arrogance but really he must have some real issues with insecurities that his feathers get ruffled in a New York minute or that he has to make everyone around him inferior in order for him to feel superior to others.     His hit list is getting long, his motive transparent.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: O4Bull on April 09, 2010, 03:25:11 PM
    I just had a thought, while reading over at the hinky meter site.  A guest commented that he/she tended to be less inclined to believe george had molested kc because she had "fuzzy dream memories" (my paraphrase) about him, but solid memories about lee.

    Just for the sake of argument, let's say george did abuse her, and she is afraid he may be the father of Caylee.  If it turns out that way, then she wasn't "aware" of it or "an active participant".  Hence, the reason she never reported it.

    In a backwards sort of way, this would almost seem more her style than to ever just tell the truth.

    Just thinking about  ::CowboySmiley:: and his insistence that ga or la was the daddy.





    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: loca on April 09, 2010, 03:25:43 PM
    Judge Strickland better get tougher in his courtroom.
    I think Stan the Man is doing everything possible to make sure that this case is not appeable (well, except for the automatic appeals that come with death penalty sentences). Every time he grants one of the duhfense's stupid motion, I picture a hanging rope, getting thicker and thicker. I think he's giving them enough (and then some) rope to hang themselves...intentionally.

    I think he's pretty much decided that Ms. Anthony's only grounds to base an appeal on will be ineffective counsel.

    Oh, and btw, I have not yet heard back from the Fla Bar. They must be swamped with Bozo doo-doo!

    lol

    good for you!
    you contacted the florida bar on baez?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: O4Bull on April 09, 2010, 03:29:43 PM
    I just had a thought, while reading over at the hinky meter site.  A guest commented that he/she tended to be less inclined to believe george had molested kc because she had "fuzzy dream memories" (my paraphrase) about him, but solid memories about lee.

    Just for the sake of argument, let's say george did abuse her, and she is afraid he may be the father of Caylee.  If it turns out that way, then she wasn't "aware" of it or "an active participant".  Hence, the reason she never reported it.

    In a backwards sort of way, this would almost seem more her style than to ever just tell the truth.

    Just thinking about  ::CowboySmiley:: and his insistence that ga or la was the daddy.





    following up on this thought, she gets it "out there" if it ever comes out that ga did abuse her that she did tell someone (cindy)

    if ga did abuse her, and she is not certain who the father is, and they forced her to have Caylee, she could be leading up to a defense for her mental issues and possibly a motive

    not saying anything happened, just another way to look at it  ::rhino::



    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 03:40:08 PM
    I just had a thought, while reading over at the hinky meter site.  A guest commented that he/she tended to be less inclined to believe george had molested kc because she had "fuzzy dream memories" (my paraphrase) about him, but solid memories about lee.

    Just for the sake of argument, let's say george did abuse her, and she is afraid he may be the father of Caylee.  If it turns out that way, then she wasn't "aware" of it or "an active participant".  Hence, the reason she never reported it.

    In a backwards sort of way, this would almost seem more her style than to ever just tell the truth.

    Just thinking about  ::CowboySmiley:: and his insistence that ga or la was the daddy.




    I can't remember this so I will ask if anyone does. I was reading on another forum, can't even remember which one and this subject came up, somebody mentioned that the dna came back and Lee is not the father, but that there was no dna mentioned that George was or wasn't. Is that true? I don't understand any of the dna stuff so I just wondered. I hate to even bring this up  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 03:40:56 PM
    I just had a thought, while reading over at the hinky meter site.  A guest commented that he/she tended to be less inclined to believe george had molested kc because she had "fuzzy dream memories" (my paraphrase) about him, but solid memories about lee.

    Just for the sake of argument, let's say george did abuse her, and she is afraid he may be the father of Caylee.  If it turns out that way, then she wasn't "aware" of it or "an active participant".  Hence, the reason she never reported it.

    In a backwards sort of way, this would almost seem more her style than to ever just tell the truth.

    Just thinking about  ::CowboySmiley:: and his insistence that ga or la was the daddy.





    following up on this thought, she gets it "out there" if it ever comes out that ga did abuse her that she did tell someone (cindy)

    if ga did abuse her, and she is not certain who the father is, and they forced her to have Caylee, she could be leading up to a defense for her mental issues and possibly a motive

    not saying anything happened, just another way to look at it  ::rhino::


    And I sure have thought that same thing  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 03:43:14 PM
    Good Day !!!

    I hope some smart monkeys can add to this ??
    My issues:
    1) the letters are not dated so how do we know the "when" of the blanket comment ??
    2)where are the letters that Robyn wrote back to Casey ? Have they been turned over to anyone ??

    The lack of dates is really bugging me.....

    Hi espresso, IIRC there were a few dated and some had references about the holidays and when KC was going to be in court and seeing her parents and the memorial, etc. and casey was evidently flushing Robyn's letter as they had both agreed to do............but Robyn didn't.

    Thanks Sunny, I am rather analytical in thinking and it gets the best of me at times and this case has really tested my brain and put it into overload mode to say the least. Nothing in this case surprises me due to what I have experienced in real life with some similarities and it is scary and I am sure Capp can relate to that re: CASA.....

    I do beleive there is so much more than we even begin to know and will have to wait until the trial for it to come out....

    Yes, I can espresso...my work with CASA, a few years at a law firm, transcribing thousands of court cases, and then assisting a forensic psychiatrist that served as an expert witness as a large percentage of his practice.   No, nothing much is truly shocking to me but I do admit sometimes I do get a bit stunned here and there & definitely experienced a fair share of being disgusted.   This case is gripping but unfortunately we live in a society that is plagued with way too muckin fuch scum all around us.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 09, 2010, 03:53:33 PM
    ::MonkeyHaHa:: I want him to address these accusations, those are bad accusations to make.

    You better believe it but YM is now aware of them.... ::MonkeyWink::

    As are a couple of others who need to know.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 09, 2010, 03:58:54 PM
    I just had a thought, while reading over at the hinky meter site.  A guest commented that he/she tended to be less inclined to believe george had molested kc because she had "fuzzy dream memories" (my paraphrase) about him, but solid memories about lee.

    Just for the sake of argument, let's say george did abuse her, and she is afraid he may be the father of Caylee.  If it turns out that way, then she wasn't "aware" of it or "an active participant".  Hence, the reason she never reported it.

    In a backwards sort of way, this would almost seem more her style than to ever just tell the truth.

    Just thinking about  ::CowboySmiley:: and his insistence that ga or la was the daddy.




    I can't remember this so I will ask if anyone does. I was reading on another forum, can't even remember which one and this subject came up, somebody mentioned that the dna came back and Lee is not the father, but that there was no dna mentioned that George was or wasn't. Is that true? I don't understand any of the dna stuff so I just wondered. I hate to even bring this up  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    In one of the FBI reports according to the media ruled out Lee as the father but there was something very curious in the allies of the DNA in that when I went to look at the actual DNA results. It showed what appeared to be like double or triple allies of the same family which led me to question if GA was the father and also ask if he had a son. I have no idea where that is now as I lost my main computer and it is all on back up or I would post that report.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 09, 2010, 04:02:53 PM
    I just had a thought, while reading over at the hinky meter site.  A guest commented that he/she tended to be less inclined to believe george had molested kc because she had "fuzzy dream memories" (my paraphrase) about him, but solid memories about lee.

    Just for the sake of argument, let's say george did abuse her, and she is afraid he may be the father of Caylee.  If it turns out that way, then she wasn't "aware" of it or "an active participant".  Hence, the reason she never reported it.

    In a backwards sort of way, this would almost seem more her style than to ever just tell the truth.

    Just thinking about  ::CowboySmiley:: and his insistence that ga or la was the daddy.




    I can't remember this so I will ask if anyone does. I was reading on another forum, can't even remember which one and this subject came up, somebody mentioned that the dna came back and Lee is not the father, but that there was no dna mentioned that George was or wasn't. Is that true? I don't understand any of the dna stuff so I just wondered. I hate to even bring this up  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    It's my understanding that we've not heard anything about GA's DNA one way or the other.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 04:03:47 PM
    Thank-you Turbo  ::MonkeyCool::                                                               
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    (Originally Posted by jon_burrows View Post)
    When posters make a claim such as yours on this web site, it is common courtesy to let readers know if the post is factual or opinion. Since you refuse to offer any information to substantiate your claim, I’ll consider it opinion which raises a question regarding your motive. Are you trying to jump on the Casey gravy train (maybe get some more TV appearances) or are you jockeying for a place on the defense team?

    Another little tidbit, most of us know when to start a new thread so there is no need to take orders from you simply because you won’t answer a question about something you stated as fact. Nice try though.  ::MonkeyCool:: Hornsby's answer
    (Listen, the only problem is I am one of the few people who consistently cites anything supporting his opinion. But I have previously cited the instances where I believe YM has been less than stellar in other opinions. So you are welcome to search through my posts to find it.

    But unfortunately, and contrary to popular opinion, I lack the ability of total recall so I can not pull the exact time date place and link of something.

    And by the way, any critique of another person, whether of me or YM, is by definition an "opinion."

    And as for "changing threads" I was only attempting to change the subject to appease certain moderators and others who wanted the thread to stay focused. So I offered an apology for the sole purpose of trying to facilitate that. )


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 04:05:17 PM
    I just had a thought, while reading over at the hinky meter site.  A guest commented that he/she tended to be less inclined to believe george had molested kc because she had "fuzzy dream memories" (my paraphrase) about him, but solid memories about lee.

    Just for the sake of argument, let's say george did abuse her, and she is afraid he may be the father of Caylee.  If it turns out that way, then she wasn't "aware" of it or "an active participant".  Hence, the reason she never reported it.

    In a backwards sort of way, this would almost seem more her style than to ever just tell the truth.

    Just thinking about  ::CowboySmiley:: and his insistence that ga or la was the daddy.




    I can't remember this so I will ask if anyone does. I was reading on another forum, can't even remember which one and this subject came up, somebody mentioned that the dna came back and Lee is not the father, but that there was no dna mentioned that George was or wasn't. Is that true? I don't understand any of the dna stuff so I just wondered. I hate to even bring this up  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    It's my understanding that we've not heard anything about GA's DNA one way or the other.
    Thank-you, I just honestly don't know what to think about this.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: N2WISHN on April 09, 2010, 04:07:33 PM
    I just had a thought, while reading over at the hinky meter site.  A guest commented that he/she tended to be less inclined to believe george had molested kc because she had "fuzzy dream memories" (my paraphrase) about him, but solid memories about lee.

    Just for the sake of argument, let's say george did abuse her, and she is afraid he may be the father of Caylee.  If it turns out that way, then she wasn't "aware" of it or "an active participant".  Hence, the reason she never reported it.

    In a backwards sort of way, this would almost seem more her style than to ever just tell the truth.

    Just thinking about  ::CowboySmiley:: and his insistence that ga or la was the daddy.




    I can't remember this so I will ask if anyone does. I was reading on another forum, can't even remember which one and this subject came up, somebody mentioned that the dna came back and Lee is not the father, but that there was no dna mentioned that George was or wasn't. Is that true? I don't understand any of the dna stuff so I just wondered. I hate to even bring this up  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    It's my understanding that we've not heard anything about GA's DNA one way or the other.
    Thank-you, I just honestly don't know what to think about this.


    Know what you mean. Thing is, if GA ended up being the father of Caylee, I would bet a jury would go really easy on her. I personally would not.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 04:09:41 PM
    I think you are right, a jury would go easier on her  ::MonkeyEek::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 04:10:10 PM
    Thank-you Turbo  ::MonkeyCool::                                                               
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    (Originally Posted by jon_burrows View Post)
    When posters make a claim such as yours on this web site, it is common courtesy to let readers know if the post is factual or opinion. Since you refuse to offer any information to substantiate your claim, I’ll consider it opinion which raises a question regarding your motive. Are you trying to jump on the Casey gravy train (maybe get some more TV appearances) or are you jockeying for a place on the defense team?

    Another little tidbit, most of us know when to start a new thread so there is no need to take orders from you simply because you won’t answer a question about something you stated as fact. Nice try though.  ::MonkeyCool:: Hornsby's answer
    (Listen, the only problem is I am one of the few people who consistently cites anything supporting his opinion. But I have previously cited the instances where I believe YM has been less than stellar in other opinions. So you are welcome to search through my posts to find it.

    But unfortunately, and contrary to popular opinion, I lack the ability of total recall so I can not pull the exact time date place and link of something.

    And by the way, any critique of another person, whether of me or YM, is by definition an "opinion."

    And as for "changing threads" I was only attempting to change the subject to appease certain moderators and others who wanted the thread to stay focused. So I offered an apology for the sole purpose of trying to facilitate that. )


    What a fudging arse!    O sure you just cannot pull the exact anything...blah blah blah   And NO it wasnt just an opinion it was a libelous accusation.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Tevye on April 09, 2010, 04:11:00 PM
    Judge Strickland better get tougher in his courtroom.
    I think Stan the Man is doing everything possible to make sure that this case is not appeable (well, except for the automatic appeals that come with death penalty sentences). Every time he grants one of the duhfense's stupid motion, I picture a hanging rope, getting thicker and thicker. I think he's giving them enough (and then some) rope to hang themselves...intentionally.

    I think he's pretty much decided that Ms. Anthony's only grounds to base an appeal on will be ineffective counsel.

    Oh, and btw, I have not yet heard back from the Fla Bar. They must be swamped with Bozo doo-doo!

    lol

    good for you!
    you contacted the florida bar on baez?
    Hell to the yes! He's an embarrassment to the legal community, the state of Florida, men in general and especially Latinos!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 09, 2010, 04:12:17 PM
    Cappy,I bet if he had Muffy behind him,he could produce or hush up.   ::MonkeyTongue::

     ::bee::     ::rhino::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 04:17:45 PM
    Cappy,I bet if he had Muffy behind him,he could produce or hush up.   ::MonkeyTongue::

     ::bee::     ::rhino::

    Or my Italian stilettos!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 09, 2010, 04:21:24 PM
    I just had a thought, while reading over at the hinky meter site.  A guest commented that he/she tended to be less inclined to believe george had molested kc because she had "fuzzy dream memories" (my paraphrase) about him, but solid memories about lee.

    Just for the sake of argument, let's say george did abuse her, and she is afraid he may be the father of Caylee.  If it turns out that way, then she wasn't "aware" of it or "an active participant".  Hence, the reason she never reported it.

    In a backwards sort of way, this would almost seem more her style than to ever just tell the truth.

    Just thinking about  ::CowboySmiley:: and his insistence that ga or la was the daddy.




    I can't remember this so I will ask if anyone does. I was reading on another forum, can't even remember which one and this subject came up, somebody mentioned that the dna came back and Lee is not the father, but that there was no dna mentioned that George was or wasn't. Is that true? I don't understand any of the dna stuff so I just wondered. I hate to even bring this up  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    It's my understanding that we've not heard anything about GA's DNA one way or the other.

    George nor Lee is Caylee's father....I don't have the link but Val on thehinkymeter has stated as fact....DNA reports have been released in past discovery, and either Val or one of her experts have done the leg work to verify...
    www.thehinkymeter.com


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 09, 2010, 04:25:07 PM
    If Casey's accusations about the molesting were true the defense would have used that info by now.  I really don't think they would hesitate to trample over Lee, George or Cindy to get her off.  If she was raped by anyone in the family they would have used that to shut the family up and to garner sympathy for their client.

    Remember they really don't care who that bus rolls over..as long as Casey doesn't get the DP.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 04:27:13 PM
    Thanks Seeme  ::MonkeyCool::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 04:33:12 PM
    I just had a thought, while reading over at the hinky meter site.  A guest commented that he/she tended to be less inclined to believe george had molested kc because she had "fuzzy dream memories" (my paraphrase) about him, but solid memories about lee.

    Just for the sake of argument, let's say george did abuse her, and she is afraid he may be the father of Caylee.  If it turns out that way, then she wasn't "aware" of it or "an active participant".  Hence, the reason she never reported it.

    In a backwards sort of way, this would almost seem more her style than to ever just tell the truth.

    Just thinking about  ::CowboySmiley:: and his insistence that ga or la was the daddy.




    I can't remember this so I will ask if anyone does. I was reading on another forum, can't even remember which one and this subject came up, somebody mentioned that the dna came back and Lee is not the father, but that there was no dna mentioned that George was or wasn't. Is that true? I don't understand any of the dna stuff so I just wondered. I hate to even bring this up  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    It's my understanding that we've not heard anything about GA's DNA one way or the other.
    Thank-you, I just honestly don't know what to think about this.


    Know what you mean. Thing is, if GA ended up being the father of Caylee, I would bet a jury would go really easy on her. I personally would not.

    Not sure that isnt the case, Im too aggravated on the other issue of the day to go searching right now but I think both were omitted.   Regardless, I dont give a hoot why I care if she did kill an innocent sweet babygirl heinously -- there are choices in life, she made the most horrific one.   Do I care if she was assaulted, yea even her if there was more than her convenient & manipulative references to an allegation but IMHO it does not excuse what she did but you're right many would throw her sympathy & not give her the ultimate consequence for her actions.    What should matter to society is that Caylee wouldnt have known nor care what led her mommy to kill her just that she did...ugh I cant even imagine if what we suspect is true is the last thing that sweet child's eyes saw  :smt089


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 04:38:56 PM
    I just had a thought, while reading over at the hinky meter site.  A guest commented that he/she tended to be less inclined to believe george had molested kc because she had "fuzzy dream memories" (my paraphrase) about him, but solid memories about lee.

    Just for the sake of argument, let's say george did abuse her, and she is afraid he may be the father of Caylee.  If it turns out that way, then she wasn't "aware" of it or "an active participant".  Hence, the reason she never reported it.

    In a backwards sort of way, this would almost seem more her style than to ever just tell the truth.

    Just thinking about  ::CowboySmiley:: and his insistence that ga or la was the daddy.




    I can't remember this so I will ask if anyone does. I was reading on another forum, can't even remember which one and this subject came up, somebody mentioned that the dna came back and Lee is not the father, but that there was no dna mentioned that George was or wasn't. Is that true? I don't understand any of the dna stuff so I just wondered. I hate to even bring this up  ::MonkeyNoNo::


    It's my understanding that we've not heard anything about GA's DNA one way or the other.

    George nor Lee is Caylee's father....I don't have the link but Val on thehinkymeter has stated as fact....DNA reports have been released in past discovery, and either Val or one of her experts have done the leg work to verify...
    www.thehinkymeter.com

    thanks seeme...I remembered reading about it......but no way could I remember where.....hope we can put that to rest....neither GA or LA are Caylee's biodad..praise be!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 04:39:35 PM
    If Casey's accusations about the molesting were true the defense would have used that info by now.  I really don't think they would hesitate to trample over Lee, George or Cindy to get her off.  If she was raped by anyone in the family they would have used that to shut the family up and to garner sympathy for their client.

    Remember they really don't care who that bus rolls over..as long as Casey doesn't get the DP.


    ::rhino:: ::rhino::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Western Observr on April 09, 2010, 04:41:49 PM
    Thank-you Turbo  ::MonkeyCool::                                                               
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    When posters make a claim such as yours on this web site, it is common courtesy to let readers know if the post is factual or opinion. Since you refuse to offer any information to substantiate your claim, I’ll consider it opinion which raises a question regarding your motive. Are you trying to jump on the Casey gravy train (maybe get some more TV appearances) or are you jockeying for a place on the defense team?

    Another little tidbit, most of us know when to start a new thread so there is no need to take orders from you simply because you won’t answer a question about something you stated as fact. Nice try though.  ::MonkeyCool:: Hornsby's answer
    (Listen, the only problem is I am one of the few people who consistently cites anything supporting his opinion. But I have previously cited the instances where I believe YM has been less than stellar in other opinions. So you are welcome to search through my posts to find it.

    But unfortunately, and contrary to popular opinion, I lack the ability of total recall so I can not pull the exact time date place and link of something.

    And by the way, any critique of another person, whether of me or YM, is by definition an "opinion."

    And as for "changing threads" I was only attempting to change the subject to appease certain moderators and others who wanted the thread to stay focused. So I offered an apology for the sole purpose of trying to facilitate that. )


    What a fudging arse!    O sure you just cannot pull the exact anything...blah blah blah   And NO it wasnt just an opinion it was a libelous accusation.

    Correct.  He did not say IMO, or JMO as we would, he stated it as fact.  Now watch him scramble to backtrack on what he said. 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Curly on April 09, 2010, 04:56:09 PM
    Good morning, Monkeys!  Just started listening to the phone calls from Robyn.  Did anyone notice that the nickname was "Muffin"?  Isn't that the name Casey signed in her letters?  So is this part of Casey trying to ingratiate herself, or be part of the cool clique?  I always see her as trying to get accepted by the popular crowd, but she inevitably does something stupid, like lying, or stealing, to screw it up.  She just can't help herself...
     ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Morning Monka.......I noticed....and I agree it was KC trying to ingratiate herself....that's what she does...I remember vaguely Jesse talking about how she suddenly became interested in his favorite sports team, perhaps baseball..... ............can't remember the exact words....

    Hi Sunny and everyone,
         He said she hated the Yankees and then became a fan because they are his favorite team.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 05:05:37 PM
    OMG   so this is how he is going to spin it - this is not only irresponsible but flat out WRONG

    Phone Calls From Anthony Pen Pal Released

    Robyn Adams Discusses Anthony With Her Father
    http://www.wesh.com/news/23101635/detail.html
    POSTED: 11:41 am EDT April 9, 2010
    UPDATED: 4:45 pm EDT April 9, 201

    ORLANDO, Fla. --


    Audio recordings of phone calls in the case against Casey Anthony were released on Friday.
    The recordings were made public just days after hundreds of pages of jailhouse letters between Anthony and her jailhouse pen pal, Robyn Adams.
    The calls released were between Adams and her father, and Adams talked about the Anthony letters.
    The calls were recorded in 2008 and 2009 while Adams was an inmate at the Orange County Jail.
    Adams told investigators from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement that she had no ulterior motive in her months-long friendship with Anthony.
    But instead of flushing the letters as she had promised Anthony, Adams kept them and sent them to her father.
    In a phone call, you hear him coaching her about what's called substantial assistance. As a federal prisoner, if you help the government, you can apply to have your sentence reduced. Adams is serving 10 years for trafficking marijuana.
    Adams' Father: You may be eligible for substantial assistance.
    Adams: Yes, but I think it's a safety valve.
    Adams' Father: Substantial Assistance is what you need to get.
    Adams: Keep praying for it, Daddy.
    What remains unanswered is whether the FDLE knew about the dozens of recorded calls before wrapping up their investigation into the matter and coming to the conclusion that Adams was not trying to get a break on her sentence by befriending Anthony.
    Defense attorney Richard Hornsby said the FDLE should have examined the calls before declaring Adams and her information about Anthony as credible.
    "Those jail calls, it undermines their credibility saying Adams is a credible witness," Hornsby said.

    A representative for the FDLE said the agency was only responding to a request by prosecutors.
    "We were asked by the state attorney's office to interview Robyn in reference to the letters. We completed the request and forwarded the results to the state attorney's office. That was our involvement," a statement said.
    Hornsby said the calls could help Anthony's defense find inconsistencies in Adams' statements in their quest to get her statements to law enforcement thrown out.
    "The real question is did she in fact have the opportunity to view Casey to see how she was reacting," Hornsby said.

    In the days after Caylee Anthony's remains were found, investigators said Casey Anthony shared details with Adams details that only the killer would have known. But the newly-released calls may cast doubt on that.

    ***
    Take it as a given that it is clear that both RA and her father had a motive to turn over the letters so that would face scrutiny BUT that does not take away from their content written by Casey herself nor is the credibility of LE in any capacity questionable when all they did was follow evidence & investigate per request - from what I heard of the calls they do not undermine the fact that RA had contact with Casey in jail.  As far as RA's statements to LE thrown out, if they didnt hear the calls - they didnt know, think again.    Why would the defense need her statements to LE thrown out unless they were looking for those "inconsistencies" to avoid the truth being heard - if they are aware that there are inconsistencies attack her on cross & impeach her, fighting to get it thrown out shows they are trying to suppress something because they do not want it heard.    Wesh really needs to be aware of what a loose canyon this jerk is & reconsider his "legal commentary."  :smt115


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 09, 2010, 05:17:23 PM
    Hornsby is talking smack again.  She did not use these to try to lower her sentence..I thought she was tried before the letters went to LE and that her own attorney said they were of no practical use in her own case. 

     


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 09, 2010, 05:20:19 PM
    http://www.wftv.com/news/23105522/detail.html
    Casey’s Pen Pal: “Praying For Her Every Day
    Posted: 4:43 pm EDT April 9, 2010Updated: 5:04 pm EDT April 9, 2010
    ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Phone calls were released from Casey Anthony's jailhouse friends, the same friends who Casey confided to in personal letters and whispered conversations. In the calls, they talk about the accused child killer.

    There were more than 1,000 phone calls made by Casey's pen-pal, her friend and a woman who knew Casey's dad. Those calls add up to more than 200 hours.

    It's interesting, because Casey’s pen pal doesn't seem to know that much about the investigation, but she told investigators earlier this year that, on the day Caylee's remains were found, Casey told her about a blanket and plastic bag with the remains. That's something investigators said only they and the killer would know.

    In the calls from inside the Orange County jail, Robyn Adams, Casey Anthony's pen pal who exchanged letter after letter with the suspected child killer, also spent a lot of time on the phone.

    “Are you in the same dorm with that Anthony chick again?” a woman Adams calls Mel asked her in a call in December. “How's she behaving these days?”

    On the call, made right around the time Caylee's remains were found in December 2008, Adams opens up about Casey.
    She doesn't seem to be looking good. I'm praying for her every day,” Adams said.

    Adams is now serving time in federal prison for conspiring to set up a major marijuana operation with her husband Clay, a former Altamonte Springs police officer. Casey confided in Adams while they exchanged letters.

    Adams kept those letters, saying to a friend they might have some value someday. Over the phone with friends and family, Adams seemed very interested in what's going on in the murder investigation.

    “They found the body of, yeah, but they didn't know if it's hers or not right?” Adams asked the person on the phone with her.

    “They've directly connected some things they found on her body to some things they found in her home,” the person said.

    But she seems more concerned with Casey's well-being.

    “It's not my place to judge her,” Adams told her dad.

    “I hear ya. I hear ya,” he said.

    “I just want her to be happy, whatever the case may be or whatever she's guilty or not guilty of,” Adams said.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 09, 2010, 05:22:44 PM
    http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/9/pen_pal_ask_father_to_pray_for_casey_anthony.html
     Pen Pal Asks Father To Pray For Casey Anthony
    Friday, April 09, 2010 4:02:57 PM
    Reported by Jacqueline Fell

    ORLANDO -- Casey Anthony's jailhouse pen pal keeps on talking.

    Robyn Adams made hundreds of phone calls while at the Orange County Jail, and in some of them she talks about Casey Anthony.

    Adams made as many as four phone calls a night.

    She called her parents, her children and her friend Treacy, who is the Altamonte Springs woman who Adams asked to hold the letters Anthony had written to her.

    However, it’s her calls to her father where she asks him to pray for Anthony.

    Dad: Have you seen Casey?
    Robyn: Every day
    Dad: I mean, how's she holding up?
    Robyn: She hasn't been holding up good it looks like.
    Dad: No, I guess not.
    Robyn: Keep her and her family in prayer. Any news on what's going on with her or anything?
    Dad: No, they're not. They're keeping it pretty quiet about it, about her.
    Robyn: Yeah, but they just found some remains.
    Dad: But they don't know who. They assume it is, but you know how the media confronted it (inaudible). I hope it's not, but... it'll probably be next
    week before anyone even knows.
    Robyn: Well, keep praying for her parents, too.
    Dad: We will.

    Anthony and Adams exchanged hundreds of handwritten letters.

    It appears they had an agreement to flush the letters, but Adams was sending them to her friend Treacy.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 05:26:03 PM
    I wish we here at Websleuths had the same right of "telling it like it is" as bluntly as you seem to be allowed to but we don't and I like it here so I'll just say that I will not be playing your game or helping you do your job. Here is why-

    I am a convicted felon, Mr Hornsby, several times over.. my record dates back to the age of 15. Not a pretty picture, I realize this but it is what it is. One of the things I have experience with is criminal court, judges and lawyers and I have never come across a defense attorney who so vocally (much less publicly) judges and attempts to shame the very people they rely on to make them money. The people you trash when you come on here may not be your clients, so to you it's OK.. but in the heart of a person charged with a crime wanting to find an attorney they can trust and depend on reading the way you trash these people here, it is just like trashing any future client thinking about hiring you. I think you have lost yourself in your quest for fame and one upmanship. You have put everyone involved with this case down, EXCEPT for the suspect, her family and her lawyer. I do not believe your interest in this case is about truth and justice but about getting your name in lights and because, as an ex-con, I have felt nothing but insulted by you as a "defense" attorney since you began visiting here I will not be helping you accomplish that.

    I take anti-psychotics but I'm not delusional.. I know my little boycott is meaningless, plenty of others will be happy to help you so I know one day we shall see your name in lights. Until then-    ::MonkeyCool:: OneLostGrl at ws


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 05:28:12 PM
    Hornsby is talking smack again.  She did not use these to try to lower her sentence..I thought she was tried before the letters went to LE and that her own attorney said they were of no practical use in her own case. 

     

    He sure is, yes she was sentenced to 10 years.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 09, 2010, 05:28:59 PM
    Thanks, NRCG.    ::MonkeyTongue::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 05:29:43 PM
    Thanks, NRCG.    ::MonkeyTongue::
    I like her she tells it like it is, I'm sure she will be banned.  ::MonkeyShocked::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 05:30:26 PM
    I wish we here at Websleuths had the same right of "telling it like it is" as bluntly as you seem to be allowed to but we don't and I like it here so I'll just say that I will not be playing your game or helping you do your job. Here is why-

    I am a convicted felon, Mr Hornsby, several times over.. my record dates back to the age of 15. Not a pretty picture, I realize this but it is what it is. One of the things I have experience with is criminal court, judges and lawyers and I have never come across a defense attorney who so vocally (much less publicly) judges and attempts to shame the very people they rely on to make them money. The people you trash when you come on here may not be your clients, so to you it's OK.. but in the heart of a person charged with a crime wanting to find an attorney they can trust and depend on reading the way you trash these people here, it is just like trashing any future client thinking about hiring you. I think you have lost yourself in your quest for fame and one upmanship. You have put everyone involved with this case down, EXCEPT for the suspect, her family and her lawyer. I do not believe your interest in this case is about truth and justice but about getting your name in lights and because, as an ex-con, I have felt nothing but insulted by you as a "defense" attorney since you began visiting here I will not be helping you accomplish that.

    I take anti-psychotics but I'm not delusional.. I know my little boycott is meaningless, plenty of others will be happy to help you so I know one day we shall see your name in lights. Until then-    ::MonkeyCool:: OneLostGrl at ws

    Well well well...if this type of person sees it, enough said!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 05:32:04 PM
    Thanks, NRCG.    ::MonkeyTongue::
    I like her she tells it like it is, I'm sure she will be banned.  ::MonkeyShocked::

    Their loss because regardless of this persons past, the insight is enlightening.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 05:35:39 PM
    Thanks, NRCG.    ::MonkeyTongue::
    I like her she tells it like it is, I'm sure she will be banned.  ::MonkeyShocked::

    Their loss because regardless of this persons past, the insight is enlightening.
    She has a lot of insight, but she is pressing her luck big time right now on a couple threads, so I do expect her to be gone shortly.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Curly on April 09, 2010, 05:36:38 PM
    Good Day !!!

    I hope some smart monkeys can add to this ??
    My issues:
    1) the letters are not dated so how do we know the "when" of the blanket comment ??
    2)where are the letters that Robyn wrote back to Casey ? Have they been turned over to anyone ??

    The lack of dates is really bugging me.....

    Exactly. I see this as a huge problem. It's not in writing so there's no way of determining if Casey actually told her about it or she added this to the conversation after it became public knowledge. Coupled by the fact that she never contacted the authorities with this crucial information.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 05:40:56 PM
    Good morning, Monkeys!  Just started listening to the phone calls from Robyn.  Did anyone notice that the nickname was "Muffin"?  Isn't that the name Casey signed in her letters?  So is this part of Casey trying to ingratiate herself, or be part of the cool clique?  I always see her as trying to get accepted by the popular crowd, but she inevitably does something stupid, like lying, or stealing, to screw it up.  She just can't help herself...
     ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Morning Monka.......I noticed....and I agree it was KC trying to ingratiate herself....that's what she does...I remember vaguely Jesse talking about how she suddenly became interested in his favorite sports team, perhaps baseball..... ............can't remember the exact words....

    Hi Sunny and everyone,
         He said she hated the Yankees and then became a fan because they are his favorite team.

    Hi Curly....thanks....I had most of it! ::MonkeyDevil::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 09, 2010, 05:42:51 PM
    Don't worry about Hornsby. The great majority see him for what he is, just another Defense Attorney who wants to claim the usual Police conspiracy..
    He stormed off in a sulk last time he was there, someone with greater intelligence than him proved him wrong and he couldn't handle it.  He won't be there long.


    He's using the WSers to do his leg work for him and then he will pick out what he wants from their input and bloviate about it.

    I'm sorry I'm so far behind...but I've wondered all along if he was not actually with the Defense behind the scenes.   


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 05:43:56 PM
    I wish we here at Websleuths had the same right of "telling it like it is" as bluntly as you seem to be allowed to but we don't and I like it here so I'll just say that I will not be playing your game or helping you do your job. Here is why-

    I am a convicted felon, Mr Hornsby, several times over.. my record dates back to the age of 15. Not a pretty picture, I realize this but it is what it is. One of the things I have experience with is criminal court, judges and lawyers and I have never come across a defense attorney who so vocally (much less publicly) judges and attempts to shame the very people they rely on to make them money. The people you trash when you come on here may not be your clients, so to you it's OK.. but in the heart of a person charged with a crime wanting to find an attorney they can trust and depend on reading the way you trash these people here, it is just like trashing any future client thinking about hiring you. I think you have lost yourself in your quest for fame and one upmanship. You have put everyone involved with this case down, EXCEPT for the suspect, her family and her lawyer. I do not believe your interest in this case is about truth and justice but about getting your name in lights and because, as an ex-con, I have felt nothing but insulted by you as a "defense" attorney since you began visiting here I will not be helping you accomplish that.

    I take anti-psychotics but I'm not delusional.. I know my little boycott is meaningless, plenty of others will be happy to help you so I know one day we shall see your name in lights. Until then-    ::MonkeyCool:: OneLostGrl at ws

    WOW!  STANDING OVATION!!!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: akmom on April 09, 2010, 05:48:27 PM
    Just catching up here.  I used to read at WS but never joined.  And I lost interest there a long time ago.  Didn't Yuri post there for a short while?  I'm thinkin' they thought a lot of him there then?  Hhhmmm.  As far as Hornsby is concerned, meh, just another in a long, long conga line of idiots trying to cash in on sweet Caylee.  I don't see any end to the circus.  EVER.  No matter what happens to C, and I don't think it will be the death penalty.  We will see her in the Enquirer for the rest of her life.  Every move she makes in prison.

    JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 05:49:21 PM
    Don't worry about Hornsby. The great majority see him for what he is, just another Defense Attorney who wants to claim the usual Police conspiracy..
    He stormed off in a sulk last time he was there, someone with greater intelligence than him proved him wrong and he couldn't handle it.  He won't be there long.


    He's using the WSers to do his leg work for him and then he will pick out what he wants from their input and bloviate about it.

    I'm sorry I'm so far behind...but I've wondered all along if he was not actually with the Defense behind the scenes.   

    Well, I had my fill of him today and just commented right on Wesh's site with his latest contribution:

    Hornsby, you want to put on the record here the libelous statements about a lead detective in this case you made today on a forum with no proof of same? You want to explain why you feel the need to trash & make implicating remarks about others and then you cant point to evidence to support it? I think these readers need to read what you did today on the Web sleuth forum. *(OS why is that site word considered inappropriate?) Then they should also tune in to your regular appearances on "Watt's up" because all you do is trash others to make yourself seem superior hoping to be the next Mark Eiglarsh on every network. Are you even practicing law with all the time you spend on the internet?

    Apr. 9, 2010 5:47pm EDT | from cappuccino

    http://www.wesh.com/news/23101635/detail.html


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Curly on April 09, 2010, 05:53:08 PM
    Oh, wow, Capp. I do hope he see's that. It'll surely take him down a peg or two!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 09, 2010, 05:54:41 PM
    I wish we here at Websleuths had the same right of "telling it like it is" as bluntly as you seem to be allowed to but we don't and I like it here so I'll just say that I will not be playing your game or helping you do your job. Here is why-

    I am a convicted felon, Mr Hornsby, several times over.. my record dates back to the age of 15. Not a pretty picture, I realize this but it is what it is. One of the things I have experience with is criminal court, judges and lawyers and I have never come across a defense attorney who so vocally (much less publicly) judges and attempts to shame the very people they rely on to make them money. The people you trash when you come on here may not be your clients, so to you it's OK.. but in the heart of a person charged with a crime wanting to find an attorney they can trust and depend on reading the way you trash these people here, it is just like trashing any future client thinking about hiring you. I think you have lost yourself in your quest for fame and one upmanship. You have put everyone involved with this case down, EXCEPT for the suspect, her family and her lawyer. I do not believe your interest in this case is about truth and justice but about getting your name in lights and because, as an ex-con, I have felt nothing but insulted by you as a "defense" attorney since you began visiting here I will not be helping you accomplish that.

    I take anti-psychotics but I'm not delusional.. I know my little boycott is meaningless, plenty of others will be happy to help you so I know one day we shall see your name in lights. Until then-    ::MonkeyCool:: OneLostGrl at ws

    I always liked One Lost Girl..she tells it like it is and can see through a lot of doodoo.
    She could see through Hornsby alright.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: SunnyinTX on April 09, 2010, 05:54:53 PM
    Don't worry about Hornsby. The great majority see him for what he is, just another Defense Attorney who wants to claim the usual Police conspiracy..
    He stormed off in a sulk last time he was there, someone with greater intelligence than him proved him wrong and he couldn't handle it.  He won't be there long.


    He's using the WSers to do his leg work for him and then he will pick out what he wants from their input and bloviate about it.

    I'm sorry I'm so far behind...but I've wondered all along if he was not actually with the Defense behind the scenes.   

    hi Ono......I'll bet he pizzed cause Mason is her DP attorney and not him......so he has to do something to get attention and media time ::rhino::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 05:56:04 PM
    Oh, wow, Capp. I do hope he see's that. It'll surely take him down a peg or two!

    O how I wish it was in person instead cuz my stilettos are on and my B slap is primed.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: akmom on April 09, 2010, 05:57:16 PM
    Don't worry about Hornsby. The great majority see him for what he is, just another Defense Attorney who wants to claim the usual Police conspiracy..
    He stormed off in a sulk last time he was there, someone with greater intelligence than him proved him wrong and he couldn't handle it.  He won't be there long.


    He's using the WSers to do his leg work for him and then he will pick out what he wants from their input and bloviate about it.

    I'm sorry I'm so far behind...but I've wondered all along if he was not actually with the Defense behind the scenes.   

    Well, I had my fill of him today and just commented right on Wesh's site with his latest contribution:

    Hornsby, you want to put on the record here the libelous statements about a lead detective in this case you made today on a forum with no proof of same? You want to explain why you feel the need to trash & make implicating remarks about others and then you cant point to evidence to support it? I think these readers need to read what you did today on the Web sleuth forum. *(OS why is that site word considered inappropriate?) Then they should also tune in to your regular appearances on "Watt's up" because all you do is trash others to make yourself seem superior hoping to be the next Mark Eiglarsh on every network. Are you even practicing law with all the time you spend on the internet?

    Apr. 9, 2010 5:47pm EDT | from cappuccino

    http://www.wesh.com/news/23101635/detail.html

    Go Capp, love it when you get riled.  You always know the right thing to do! ::CowboySmiley::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 09, 2010, 05:58:13 PM
    Don't worry about Hornsby. The great majority see him for what he is, just another Defense Attorney who wants to claim the usual Police conspiracy..
    He stormed off in a sulk last time he was there, someone with greater intelligence than him proved him wrong and he couldn't handle it.  He won't be there long.


    He's using the WSers to do his leg work for him and then he will pick out what he wants from their input and bloviate about it.

    I'm sorry I'm so far behind...but I've wondered all along if he was not actually with the Defense behind the scenes.   

    Well, I had my fill of him today and just commented right on Wesh's site with his latest contribution:

    Hornsby, you want to put on the record here the libelous statements about a lead detective in this case you made today on a forum with no proof of same? You want to explain why you feel the need to trash & make implicating remarks about others and then you cant point to evidence to support it? I think these readers need to read what you did today on the Web sleuth forum. *(OS why is that site word considered inappropriate?) Then they should also tune in to your regular appearances on "Watt's up" because all you do is trash others to make yourself seem superior hoping to be the next Mark Eiglarsh on every network. Are you even practicing law with all the time you spend on the internet?

    Apr. 9, 2010 5:47pm EDT | from cappuccino

    http://www.wesh.com/news/23101635/detail.html

    Good one Capp..Bravo!!!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 09, 2010, 06:04:08 PM

    I can not stand WS.  I can not stand RHornsby.  The man is a total media w*ore.

    I read his first sentence in the first post on that thread and got no further.  Like Baez and the A's the man does not have a grasp of the English language.

    In his first sentence he is being all cute acting like Mission Impossible and saying here is your mission if you chose to "EXCEPT IT".  What ..he means ACCEPT..EXCEPT means just the opposite.  What a huge ego and a huge fool.

    I was banned at WS with Blink and a few others for the work I was doing on the wheeling and dealing on this case.  Anyone who puts Yuri down, posts on WS and is a lawyer and doesn't know the difference between accept and except is not worth my time.  And needless to say he is letting the little people do his work for him.

    He is a Waste, Huge Waste of my time.   I'll read them on my own thank you.

    I got banned there with Blink when we contacted the attorney who was handling the donations and asked for a complete accounting under Florida law and reported back their answer. I got a short time out for reporting that then when I was posting my letter to the authorities asking for an investigation of the monies and the paypal accounts with the irregularities I had found, BOOM - I was permanently banned. The bank and the attorney both dropped them after some of the letters and I reported that so I guess they did not want the truth out there. I could have cared less as all of the better posters were banned about the same time, so I would not have stayed anyway. 

    I found it to be a peculiar place years ago [ Laci Peterson case ] and left. 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 06:09:12 PM
    This post puts todays "Hornsby's Hunting" in prospective

    Macushla 
    "It's ok that you are old Grams, I don't mind" - another quote from Alex
        
    Join Date: Sep 2008
    Location: Orlando, FL area
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jamiect 
    In a transcript released, an investigator asked Adams whether Anthony admitted using chloroform on her daughter. Lab tests turned up chloroform in the trunk of a car Anthony used.

    Adams talked about Anthony using cold medications and antihistamines, but said the young mother was not specific about what she used to "knock her out."

    But the summary of the interview written by Detective Yuri Melich reported something different.

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...9.story?page=1
    Unfortunately, the media made an error - I know, shocking isn't it? 

    There were 3 different interview: On 1/27/10 Det. Melich and Corp. Edwards interviewed RA - but it was not a sworn statement. There is no transcript of this interview, just the summary of what she said in Det. Melich's supplemental report.

    the interviews for which there is both a summary and a transcript are the ones conducted by Woehr and Broadway of FDLE on 2/12/10 and 3/4/10.

    Does that clear things up a little?


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 09, 2010, 06:09:19 PM
    Blink has been awfully quiet and I know is working on a peice about all this.  I think Hornsby was sent in by the defense to do damage control before the next round of chit hits the fan.  I just have a feeling something even bigger is about to pop wide open...the other show still hasn't dropped..this is a lead up to that event.

    Think about the progression.  Somehow the LE get info on GA and River, they speak to River and Skye and we haven't seen Skye's interview yet.  They also know that GA was taking money from other women.

    They speak to Rozzie and she tells them what a waitstaff friend of Mallory says about Lee thinking his sister murdered Caylee.  We have yet to see, and I believe there is another interview with Lee that probably took place after Rozzis interview.
    We also haven't seen Mallory's interview.

    Then they find out from Skye and the jail that there were 2 inmates communicating with Casey.  That leads them to Robyn and Maya. 

    There are others waiting in the wings.   JMO


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 09, 2010, 06:12:11 PM
    Blink has been awfully quiet and I know is working on a peice about all this.  I think Hornsby was sent in by the defense to do damage control before the next round of chit hits the fan.  I just have a feeling something even bigger is about to pop wide open...the other show still hasn't dropped..this is a lead up to that event.

    Think about the progression.  Somehow the LE get info on GA and River, they speak to River and Skye and we haven't seen Skye's interview yet.  They also know that GA was taking money from other women.

    They speak to Rozzie and she tells them what a waitstaff friend of Mallory says about Lee thinking his sister murdered Caylee.  We have yet to see, and I believe there is another interview with Lee that probably took place after Rozzis interview.
    We also haven't seen Mallory's interview.

    Then they find out from Skye and the jail that there were 2 inmates communicating with Casey.  That leads them to Robyn and Maya. 

    There are others waiting in the wings.   JMO

    I think you are right.   ::MonkeyCool::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Gypsy DD on April 09, 2010, 06:12:34 PM
    Shoot..I meant shoe..the other shoe still hasn't dropped.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 09, 2010, 06:22:35 PM
    Don't worry about Hornsby. The great majority see him for what he is, just another Defense Attorney who wants to claim the usual Police conspiracy..
    He stormed off in a sulk last time he was there, someone with greater intelligence than him proved him wrong and he couldn't handle it.  He won't be there long.


    He's using the WSers to do his leg work for him and then he will pick out what he wants from their input and bloviate about it.

    I'm sorry I'm so far behind...but I've wondered all along if he was not actually with the Defense behind the scenes.   

    hi Ono......I'll bet he pizzed cause Mason is her DP attorney and not him......so he has to do something to get attention and media time ::rhino::

    Hey Sunny---There's something we don't know regarding his involvement, IMO.  It has to be, because I don't know of any lawyer who has the time, takes the time, & deliberately makes the incendiary & almost insulting statements of his fellow members of the Bar ---Baez; Morgan; and of Schaeffer ---in public, that I've seen/heard.  I mean, he takes sideswipes like crazy.  There is not one lawyer I know that does that, or would do that.  That is just not done in public, regardless of what one lawyer may think of another.   

    He has a very good professional & social resume---so he knows better.   My conclusion:   He must be in collusion somehow to help diffuse the Prosecution's case taking aiming at the minds of a future jury.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 06:23:06 PM
    Oh I'm afraid more is going to happen soon  ::MonkeyEek::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 06:30:35 PM
    Don't worry about Hornsby. The great majority see him for what he is, just another Defense Attorney who wants to claim the usual Police conspiracy..
    He stormed off in a sulk last time he was there, someone with greater intelligence than him proved him wrong and he couldn't handle it.  He won't be there long.


    He's using the WSers to do his leg work for him and then he will pick out what he wants from their input and bloviate about it.

    I'm sorry I'm so far behind...but I've wondered all along if he was not actually with the Defense behind the scenes.   

    hi Ono......I'll bet he pizzed cause Mason is her DP attorney and not him......so he has to do something to get attention and media time ::rhino::

    Hey Sunny---There's something we don't know regarding his involvement, IMO.  It has to be, because I don't know of any lawyer who has the time, takes the time, & deliberately makes the incendiary & almost insulting statements of his fellow members of the Bar ---Baez; Morgan; and of Schaeffer ---in public, that I've seen/heard.  I mean, he takes sideswipes like crazy.  There is not one lawyer I know that does that, or would do that.  That is just not done in public, regardless of what one lawyer may think of another.   

    He has a very good professional & social resume---so he knows better.   My conclusion:   He must be in collusion somehow to help diffuse the Prosecution's case taking aiming at the minds of a future jury.

    Or merely that he is a self-absorbed jacka$$....no but seriously, I tend to agree he has an obvious agenda.   He's sort of like the male version of Whineeeetraub who shakes her head no & disagrees with even the most heinous & obvious facts, drinking the koolaid & protecting the scum of the earth...well ya know what they say "birds of a feather..."

    The natives are rather restless today over at that other site....surprisingly vocal considering the heavy thumb policy - this was found in their "verified lawyers only" thread:

    rhornsby 
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cecybeans 
    I am not a verified attorney, so I am not going to comment or question any fine points of the law on this (although as an FYI you should be aware that quite a few attorneys do post on this thread but wish to remain anonymous and are therefore unverified, so you never know whose authenticity or experience you may be questioning.)

    Here is my conundrum: you are a local defense attorney who has admitted using your own blog, as well as this forum, to comment on this case primarily for marketing purposes . You are also a local media presence and speak frequently about this specific case ostensibly for the same reason. Now you are enlisting the members of this blog to do research for you – not simply for the sake of the truth – but to help prove a specific point tied into an opinion you have that a member of law enforcement is not doing a satisfactory job - which has impact above and beyond the normal questioning of credibility Ms. Adams would necessarily receive that would come out in the courtroom should her story be used. One might say that is is the kind of thing that could be designed to cast someone in a positive or useful light with the current defense team (who we all know have had trouble with attrition and holding on to talent).

    You have also been publicly critical of the legal advisor and reporter on a local network affiliate, which incidentally competes for ratings with the network you appear on. Specifically you have been very vocal lately about how you despise the “checkbook journalism” their parent company engaged in to purchase photographs of Caylee Anthony. And IIRC, you were also unimpressed the fact that Geraldo Rivera, may have improperly inserted himself into this case by allegedly offering a large sum of money to hire a detective. So you appear to have high standards when it comes to the responsibilities of those in the media as well as those in the legal field, particularly when their paths converge.

    I would think that any highly visible person in the media, particularly one in the legal field, would be risking their reputation by soliciting information designed to prove a certain theory or hunch. Other than short-term gain, I can’t see the benefit to publicly criticizing and condescendingly dressing down colleagues in one’s own field field; that’s a pretty basic business principle, not to mention a poor marketing strategy.

    Mr. Hornsby because you are a visible legal and media representative in regards to this case, you are not simply another poster on this forum, just as Geraldo Rivera is not simply a journalist when he inserts himself into a case in a way which could affect the outcome. As a representative of the Florida jurisprudence system, I would think it could be a slippery slope, in that you could also be accused of engaging in activities and behavior very similar to those you have openly and publicly criticized others for in the past. Because you are not simply a poster with an agenda based on your own opinions, but are something of a local celebrity, your solicitation of help could be seen as opportunistic. If your actions were simply to further your own career, it would be one thing (similar to the “checkbook journalism” you have decried). But if they are designed to use this forum to research a pet theory that may have an actual impact on the case, then your position as a member of the bar might seen ethically questionable (as Geraldo Rivera’s offer to hire an investigator).

    Perhaps you can elucidate for me, should a false dichotomy exist, the differences between what the folks at WFTV or Fox have been doing versus what you are doing as a spokesperson or legal analyst for WESH-TV. Do you think it would be ethical for Belich and Schaeffer to enlist our help as on behalf of the state to transcribe material they think would prove something that would impact the case?
    Let us be 100% clear:

    I will be honest, I had trouble filtering out exactly your questions - so I will leave you with this.

    I am not paid by anyone, nor do I have any exclusive agreement with any station.

    The only thing that furthers my career is my continued success in the courtroom, for the most part, my involvement in this case has become a hobby.

    If you actually read the articles that were critical of ABC, they were mostly critical of ABC because they did not offer full disclosure of how they obtained information, etc.

    So if we were to apply your "checkbook journalism" analogy to me, I should provide full disclosure of my motives - something I think I do very frequently.

    p.s. I do not comment on this forum for marketing purposes, if I did, I suspect my ROI in time spent would be very low.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rhornsby 
    Based on your Florida statute cite, I may agree their is a potential criminal violation if corpus could be proven. But I would never agree that giving a client a letter from her parents constitutes dishonesty, fraud, deceit, or misrepresentation.
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    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 06:38:21 PM
    O we have a poser "Stiletto" on Wesh challenging me, I just answered ...whoever it is beeotch please!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 06:40:00 PM
    O we have a poser "Stiletto" on Wesh challenging me, I just answered ...whoever it is beeotch please!

    I guess I should have included the posts:

    Stiletto Excuse me but I made NO threats of bodily harm in all seriousness, please do not ever think that your getting it twisted ruffles my pretty feathers....not by a long shot! I do follow the evidence, Hornsby should do the same instead of focusing on making flat out libelous accusations against others. He does NOT have a point because there is no transcript of what RA told the detective in discovery, so far we only have a supplemental report which outlines what she said so the same could be said for him and the OS that jumped the gun.....remember I said that


    Apr. 9, 2010 6:37pm EDT | from cappuccino
    Cappuccino--Are you the person who regularly threatens bodily harm to people you don't agree with? With your stilettos? In my opinion, Mr. Hornsby has a good point as I didn't see any mention of chloroform in any of the interviews. Its best to go by the evidence and not one's emotions. And certainly not threaten to hit anyone over this.


    Apr. 9, 2010 6:15pm EDT | from Stiletto
    http://www.wesh.com/news/23101635/detail.html


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Rowanvamp0 on April 09, 2010, 06:49:42 PM
    She's saying she is having seizures in her sleep.  WTH?  Like how would she know if she's asleep!  My mid son had a few grand mal seizures just before waking up, when he was very young, and he never remembered those.  Only way I even knew about them was cuz I had gone in there to wake him up for school and found him having a seizure.  I kinda *doubt* that Casey was having seizures.  If anything am thinking she was biting her tongue, breaking out in a sweat, etc.. in having nightmares from what she did to Caylee.    IMO

    Just catching up here on post been reading away like most of you and I gotta say Wyks you nailed it on the head..can we get an "AMEN".  I too suffer from epilepsy and NONE let me repeat NONE of it sounds like an episode to me..I have been diagnosed since I was 2 from Grand mal to petite mal as I got older and I have never ONCE bit my tongue in all of my life.  Not to get into to much detail but it runs on my mom's side so my grandmom, aunt and my mom and I have it and again NONE let me repeat that(Saying it sarcastically) in case you all didn't hear me NONE of us have bitten our tongues or have we broke out in a sweat. UGGHHH I could go on but I won't unless any of you want to know what a seizure looks like then I can give you a description and not because I have had one but because it runs in my family and I've seen it!  Then again I'm sure you monkeys can also read on the net about epilepsy we aren't stupid as the defense likes to think we are.  Sorry to rant just this part of the so called story she wrote not only hurts me but Caylee and every one else that suffers from this disease!

    Thanks for sharing that, Rowan.  And I agree with you too, none of what she mentioned sounded like what actually goes on with a seizure.  Plus the fact that when having these types of seizures while asleep just as one awakens, rarely if ever does one remember even having the episode.  My son never did.  I'm not even sure how many he had in those early years, likely more than those I witnessed.  The person is exhausted afterward tho, and Casey didn't mention that.  It does as you say, hurts those who truly suffer with seizures.  As if she is mocking the painful experience with her lies. 

     
    Your right I never did remember a thing except like right before the seizure.  I had one once while in grade school and I still remember to this day I was taking a math test and that's it that's the only thing I remember before hand and afterwards about being sleepy is correct I to was then tired so I remember my teacher letting me lay outside her door on the floor I slept and then I awoke to my parents being above me with the principal basically what I'm trying to say and not go off topic is that correct you don't remember and that you do tend to get sleep afterwards.  As you all no I don't post to much unless it's something that really gets me riled up not to say that most of the stuff talked bout here doesn't just this thing Casey said it me to the core and I was like OHH NO SHE DIDN'T!!!  Sorry for ranting guys and I'm still not caught up on all the post so back to reading it is..until next time.......


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 09, 2010, 06:51:47 PM
    Don't worry about Hornsby. The great majority see him for what he is, just another Defense Attorney who wants to claim the usual Police conspiracy..
    He stormed off in a sulk last time he was there, someone with greater intelligence than him proved him wrong and he couldn't handle it.  He won't be there long.

    If you notice he will not post that crap here because people here are much more informed and have the links to back up what they know. He could only get by with it on WS and that is why he puts that out there.
    And over there you have a mod that jumps on you like a nun in grade school for talking out of place  ::MonkeyEek:: I keep thinking I'm in grade school over there.

    It's strangely cookie-cutter.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 06:53:38 PM
    O we have a poser "Stiletto" on Wesh challenging me, I just answered ...whoever it is beeotch please!
    She is from WS


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: chocolatetyh34 on April 09, 2010, 06:55:14 PM
    Hello all, Its been awhile...I always lurk but never post.  I've been listening to Cecelia Hollaway's calls with her husband and they start using code... if I'm not mistaken she tells him to call LA, but I have to listen again. The code language that they are using is from the 5% nation... like from 1 meaning knowledge, 2 wisdom, 3 freedom and there are codes for letters as well. Have to feed my son then back to listening and decoding what their saying...


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Ono on April 09, 2010, 07:00:55 PM
    Well blaming the Police for trying to pin it on the criminal is Defense Attorney 101 isn't it?

    Yes---LOL.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 07:01:23 PM
    Hello all, Its been awhile...I always lurk but never post.  I've been listening to Cecelia Hollaway's calls with her husband and they start using code... if I'm not mistaken she tells him to call LA, but I have to listen again. The code language that they are using is from the 5% nation... like from 1 meaning knowledge, 2 wisdom, 3 freedom and there are codes for letters as well. Have to feed my son then back to listening and decoding what their saying...
    Thank-you


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 07:01:27 PM
    O we have a poser "Stiletto" on Wesh challenging me, I just answered ...whoever it is beeotch please!
    She is from WS

    Figured so much, whatever its pretty obvious by his/her statement why he/she would follow someone like him like a dutiful puppy dog.  I guess a few arent too happy that their "celebrity defense attorney" is getting called out.   What he did today regarding YM is not only unprofessional its as low as they get.   He didnt just make a theory that it "may" have occurred in this case & others, he blatantly accused him but could offer no proof & that is indeed libelous.  If people cant see he is using them for his own agenda (some there actually did state so today) then let them have at it but that doesnt mean others witnessing him attempt to slander someone else are going to remain silent.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 09, 2010, 07:01:52 PM
    http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/casey-anthony-why-was-casey-anthonys-pen-pal-fixated-on-letters.html
    Casey Anthony: Why was Casey Anthony’s pen pal fixated on letters?
    Caylee and Casey Anthony, WESH, WFTV, WKMG, WOFL — posted by halboedeker on April, 9 2010 6:38 PM
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    Local television stations tonight explored the motives of Robyn Adams, Casey Anthony’s jailhouse pen pal. Audio of Adams’ phone calls to family and friends have become the latest twist in the long and twisting Anthony saga.

    WESH-Channel 2’s Bob Kealing said that Adams and her father seemed to talk in code — “safety valve” is a repeated phrase — about ways to reduce her prison sentence. Drug trafficker Adams is serving a 10-year sentence in federal prison.

    “Did you drop off my letters,” Adams asked her father in a November 2008 phone call.

    Her father said he would do that next week.

    “Daddy, it can’t wait any longer!” Adams says. “What if that one letter counts. Seriously, Dad we need that.”

    Kealing wondered if Adams was talking about Casey Anthony’s letters to her. WESH headlined a story: “Robyn’s Hidden Reasons?”

    Orlando defense attorney Richard Hornsby, who does analysis for WESH, said the tapes “show a woman who is desperate … and searching for any way to get out of jail.”

    Hornsby said the calls raise questions about Adams: “Did she, in fact, have the opportunity to even view Casey Anthony to determine how Casey was reacting?”

    Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.
    WOFL-Channel 35’s Shannon Butler also focused on Adams’ interest in those letters and Adams’ conversations with her father. ”It’s unclear if Casey’s letters are the topic of conversation,” Butler said. “But what you can tell is these women did strike up a friendship just hours after Casey Anthony was booked in jail.”

    Adams told a friend that the guards moved her because she was talking to Anthony. And Adams said she didn’t know Anthony was off limits.

    “She says she was just trying to be Casey Anthony’s friend,” Butler said.

    In a call, Adams said, “Nobody has the right to judge anyone in here.”

    In a later report, Butler asked the central question about Adams’ calls: “Was Adams plotting with those letters or being a true friend?”

    WKMG-Channel 6’s Tony Pipitone said that Anthony’s letters to Adams “do not include the most damaging things Adams now says Casey told her verbally.”

    Pipitone predicted: “You can expect the defense is going to hammer her [Adams] hard on her credibility.”

    WESH’s Kealing noted that some Adams calls suggest she was not talking to Anthony in a confidential way soon after Caylee’s remains were found.

    Adams told her father she was not able to talk to Anthony, which is contrary to what Adams told detectives, Kealing reported. 

    WFTV-Channel 9 said it was going through a thousand Adam phone calls that last more than 200 hours. “Adams seems very interested in what’s going on in the murder investigation,” WFTV’s Jeff Deal said. “But she seems more concerned with Casey’s well-being.”

    “It’s not my place to judge her. I just want her to be at peace,” Adams says in a call.

    Deal also focused on Cecilia Holloway, the sister of Krystal Holloway, a woman who claims to be a close friend of George Anthony. Cecilia told investigators that she helped pass Casey’s letters in jail. In a phone call to a friend, Cecilia said Anthony was “the girl who killed the baby.”WFTV anchor Bob Opsahl said some of the jailhouse calls ”just expressed excitement about being in the same jail as Casey.”

    WFTV also reported that Zenaida Gonzalez’s lawyers want to talk to Adams. Gonzalez is suing Anthony for defamation.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 09, 2010, 07:03:38 PM
    Hey Muffy!      (http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/scaredmonkeys/trimmcar.gif)


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: MuffyBee on April 09, 2010, 07:05:41 PM
    Hey Muffy!      (http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/scaredmonkeys/trimmcar.gif)

    Hey trimmy  ::HelloKitty::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Babybear on April 09, 2010, 07:08:51 PM

    I can not stand WS.  I can not stand RHornsby.  The man is a total media w*ore.

    I read his first sentence in the first post on that thread and got no further.  Like Baez and the A's the man does not have a grasp of the English language.

    In his first sentence he is being all cute acting like Mission Impossible and saying here is your mission if you chose to "EXCEPT IT".  What ..he means ACCEPT..EXCEPT means just the opposite.  What a huge ego and a huge fool.

    I was banned at WS with Blink and a few others for the work I was doing on the wheeling and dealing on this case.  Anyone who puts Yuri down, posts on WS and is a lawyer and doesn't know the difference between accept and except is not worth my time.  And needless to say he is letting the little people do his work for him.

    He is a Waste, Huge Waste of my time.   I'll read them on my own thank you.

    I got banned there with Blink when we contacted the attorney who was handling the donations and asked for a complete accounting under Florida law and reported back their answer. I got a short time out for reporting that then when I was posting my letter to the authorities asking for an investigation of the monies and the paypal accounts with the irregularities I had found, BOOM - I was permanently banned. The bank and the attorney both dropped them after some of the letters and I reported that so I guess they did not want the truth out there. I could have cared less as all of the better posters were banned about the same time, so I would not have stayed anyway. 

    I found it to be a peculiar place years ago [ Laci Peterson case ] and left. 

    Wow, A lot's been going on today.  I can't imagine why Hornsby would take off after Melich and I certainly can't understand his criticizing Shaeffer as I have read in the past.  Seems unethical to me, but I guess those at WS just eat it up.  I've never been a member at WS and from what I've read don't want to be so I've never been banned there.  I was banned at InSession though for saying the Anthonys are liars.  Others said much worse than that, but I said it and was banned.  Couldn't even read there for a while.  Whatever.  I have a life apart from the forums as we all do, so I don't ever really get upset about it.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Rowanvamp0 on April 09, 2010, 07:10:00 PM
    Good morning, Monkeys!  Just started listening to the phone calls from Robyn.  Did anyone notice that the nickname was "Muffin"?  Isn't that the name Casey signed in her letters?  So is this part of Casey trying to ingratiate herself, or be part of the cool clique?  I always see her as trying to get accepted by the popular crowd, but she inevitably does something stupid, like lying, or stealing, to screw it up.  She just can't help herself...
     ::MonkeyNoNo::


    Sounds to me she was inserting herself to replace Robyn's friend that was free, at least that is how it appears...it also fits her pattern.


    I agree, Capp.  I find it unsettling that she calls Robyn her sister so quickly.  Just add water, and instant BFF! 
    I just have to say it I have to..your quote there brought to mind.."IT's the CHIA-Friend" Just add water and Instant BFF!..LOL


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 - 4/9/10
    Post by: MuffyBee on April 09, 2010, 07:14:18 PM
    Good Evening Ladies and gentlemen, we have started our descent in preparation for landing, please make sure your seat backs and tray tables are in their fully upright position. Please make sure your seat belt is securely fastened until the plane comes to a halt and all carry-on luggage is underneath the seat in front of you.
    Please switch off any electronic devices you may have until the captain has switched off seat belt sign. The flight attendants are currently passing by the cabin to pick up any remaining items which may have been left.

    Cabin crew 5 minutes till landing, 5 minutes! (and about 10 posts) 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 - 4/9/10
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 09, 2010, 07:17:57 PM
     ::MonkeyJnBox::  ReadymMuffy!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 - 4/9/10
    Post by: Cappuccino on April 09, 2010, 07:17:59 PM
    Good Evening Ladies and gentlemen, we have started our descent in preparation for landing, please make sure your seat backs and tray tables are in their fully upright position. Please make sure your seat belt is securely fastened until the plane comes to a halt and all carry-on luggage is underneath the seat in front of you.
    Please switch off any electronic devices you may have until the captain has switched off seat belt sign. The flight attendants are currently passing by the cabin to pick up any remaining items which may have been left.

    Cabin crew 5 minutes till landing, 5 minutes! (and about 10 posts) 

    Hold up last sip of my cocktail...ok ready!


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 - 4/9/10
    Post by: MuffyBee on April 09, 2010, 07:18:44 PM
    Good Evening Ladies and gentlemen, we have started our descent in preparation for landing, please make sure your seat backs and tray tables are in their fully upright position. Please make sure your seat belt is securely fastened until the plane comes to a halt and all carry-on luggage is underneath the seat in front of you.
    Please switch off any electronic devices you may have until the captain has switched off seat belt sign. The flight attendants are currently passing by the cabin to pick up any remaining items which may have been left.

    Cabin crew 5 minutes till landing, 5 minutes! (and about 10 posts) 

    Hold up last sip of my cocktail...ok ready!


     ::MonkeyHaHa::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: chocolatetyh34 on April 09, 2010, 07:19:45 PM
    Hello all, Its been awhile...I always lurk but never post.  I've been listening to Cecelia Hollaway's calls with her husband and they start using code... if I'm not mistaken she tells him to call LA, but I have to listen again. The code language that they are using is from the 5% nation... like from 1 meaning knowledge, 2 wisdom, 3 freedom and there are codes for letters as well. Have to feed my son then back to listening and decoding what their saying...
    Thank-you
    http://blog.richardhornsby.com/uploads/Jail-Audio/Cecelia-Holloway/12205802034072885899.wav
    I dont know if I did this right but they are talking about her court date when he says wisdom born c cipher universal rule truth, which he spelled it incorrectly...but her date is on the 29 wisdom born..... she responds equality now divine meaning end and he states that their trying to build a case c allah savior equality... he tells her that phones are tap...truth allah power... majorly..


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 - 4/9/10
    Post by: MuffyBee on April 09, 2010, 07:20:03 PM
    Cant' land until 100.  Trimm, can you roll out the duty free cart? 


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Curly on April 09, 2010, 07:20:20 PM
    Blink has been awfully quiet and I know is working on a peice about all this.  I think Hornsby was sent in by the defense to do damage control before the next round of chit hits the fan.  I just have a feeling something even bigger is about to pop wide open...the other show still hasn't dropped..this is a lead up to that event.

    Think about the progression.  Somehow the LE get info on GA and River, they speak to River and Skye and we haven't seen Skye's interview yet.  They also know that GA was taking money from other women.

    They speak to Rozzie and she tells them what a waitstaff friend of Mallory says about Lee thinking his sister murdered Caylee.  We have yet to see, and I believe there is another interview with Lee that probably took place after Rozzis interview.
    We also haven't seen Mallory's interview.

    Thank you. I thought I saw something about an unreleased interview with Lee in the supplemental report.
    I'm really curious to see what his mind set is now about this insanity.
    As much as I'd like to think he's finally seen the truth, he IS an Anthony, and you never know what they are going to say, especially since his Morgan testimony saying that he still believes everything his sister says.

    Then they find out from Skye and the jail that there were 2 inmates communicating with Casey.  That leads them to Robyn and Maya. 

    There are others waiting in the wings.   JMO


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 09, 2010, 07:21:38 PM
    Hey Muffy!      (http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/scaredmonkeys/trimmcar.gif)

    Hey trimmy  ::HelloKitty::

    Let's roll......................................


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 - 4/9/10
    Post by: Curly on April 09, 2010, 07:23:13 PM
    Don't know where my post went, but thanks for mentioning that interview with Lee that hasn't been released.
    I thought I saw mention of it in the supplemental report.
    I'm so curious to see what his mindset is now.
    As much as I wanted to believe he's finally seen the light, after his Morgan interview, stating that he still believes everything his sister tells him, you never can tell what he's going to say.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 - 4/9/10
    Post by: trimmonthelake on April 09, 2010, 07:23:33 PM
    I could play the piano.......that should get some comments.   ::MonkeyJnBox::


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 07:23:53 PM
    Hello all, Its been awhile...I always lurk but never post.  I've been listening to Cecelia Hollaway's calls with her husband and they start using code... if I'm not mistaken she tells him to call LA, but I have to listen again. The code language that they are using is from the 5% nation... like from 1 meaning knowledge, 2 wisdom, 3 freedom and there are codes for letters as well. Have to feed my son then back to listening and decoding what their saying...
    Thank-you
    http://blog.richardhornsby.com/uploads/Jail-Audio/Cecelia-Holloway/12205802034072885899.wav
    I dont know if I did this right but they are talking about her court date when he says wisdom born c cipher universal rule truth, which he spelled it incorrectly...but her date is on the 29 wisdom born..... she responds equality now divine meaning end and he states that their trying to build a case c allah savior equality... he tells her that phones are tap...truth allah power... majorly..
    ::MonkeyEek:: wow


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 - 4/9/10
    Post by: Curly on April 09, 2010, 07:24:01 PM
    Oh. Sorry. I guess my post got scrambled up with yours.
    Sorry about that.


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: MuffyBee on April 09, 2010, 07:24:57 PM
    (http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/Scared%20Monkeys/LOCKED2.gif)

    Caylee Marie Anthony #160

    http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7537.0


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: chocolatetyh34 on April 09, 2010, 07:25:10 PM
    Hello all, Its been awhile...I always lurk but never post.  I've been listening to Cecelia Hollaway's calls with her husband and they start using code... if I'm not mistaken she tells him to call LA, but I have to listen again. The code language that they are using is from the 5% nation... like from 1 meaning knowledge, 2 wisdom, 3 freedom and there are codes for letters as well. Have to feed my son then back to listening and decoding what their saying...
    Thank-you
    http://blog.richardhornsby.com/uploads/Jail-Audio/Cecelia-Holloway/12205802034072885899.wav
    I dont know if I did this right but they are talking about her court date when he says wisdom born c cipher universal rule truth, which he spelled it incorrectly...but her date is on the 29 wisdom born..... she responds equality now divine meaning end and he states that their trying to build a case c allah savior equality... he tells her that phones are tap...truth allah power... majorly..
    sorry to quote myself...but he also says something about LE wants to make and Islam Equality meaning ID


    Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #159 4/4/10 -
    Post by: Rowanvamp0 on April 09, 2010, 07:26:39 PM
    She's saying she is having seizures in her sleep.  WTH?  Like how would she know if she's asleep!  My mid son had a few grand mal seizures just before waking up, when he was very young, and he never remembered those.  Only way I even knew about them was cuz I had gone in there to wake him up for school and found him having a seizure.  I kinda *doubt* that Casey was having seizures.  If anything am thinking she was biting her tongue, breaking out in a sweat, etc.. in having nightmares from what she did to Caylee.    IMO





    Just catching up here on post been reading away like most of you and I gotta say Wyks you nailed it on the head..can we get an "AMEN".  I too suffer from epilepsy and NONE let me repeat NONE of it sounds like an episode to me..I have been diagnosed since I was 2 from Grand mal to petite mal as I got older and I have never ONCE bit my tongue in all of my life.  Not to get into to much detail but it runs on my mom's side so my grandmom, aunt and my mom and I have it and again NONE let me repeat that(Saying it sarcastically) in case you all didn't hear me NONE of us have bitten our tongues or have we broke out in a sweat. UGGHHH I could go on but I won't unless any of you want to know what a seizure looks like then I can give you a description and not because I have had one but because it runs in my family and I've seen it!  Then again I'm sure you monkeys can also read on the net about epilepsy we aren't stupid as the defense likes to think we are.  Sorry to rant just this part of the so called story she wrote not only hurts me but Caylee and every one else that suffers from this disease!

    ROW...thanks for sharing your experiences.

    Sunny I don't like to talk about personal stuff here but urgggh Casey just pushed one to many of my "Can tolerate" buttons!  Thanks for listening to me rant as always!