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Title: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: MuffyBee on April 09, 2010, 07:39:56 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image24-1.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 28, 2010, 09:17:56 AM
 ::DancingSantaMonkey1:: I'm 1st LoL  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 28, 2010, 09:18:31 AM
 ::HelloKitty::  now bye 4 now


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 28, 2010, 09:25:05 AM
::DancingSantaMonkey1:: I'm 1st LoL  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Can't leave you alone for a minute.   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 28, 2010, 09:38:58 AM
Sister,here is the first application for indigent status Casey filled out.     ::HelloKitty::
 07/17/08  http://blog.richardhornsby.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/20080717-Application-for-Indigent-Status.pdf

03/03/10 application   http://www.docstoc.com/docs/28266354/Casey-Anthony-Motion-for-Indigency-03052010


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 28, 2010, 09:48:47 AM
::DancingSantaMonkey1:: I'm 1st LoL  ::MonkeyHaHa::

LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cookie on April 28, 2010, 09:49:40 AM
Hi everyone!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 28, 2010, 10:13:52 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
04/27/2010---Order---Setting Case Mangement Hearing with Attachment of Admin Order/Courtroom Decorum Policy

04/28/2010---Motion to Withdraw---Filed by Todd Macaluso, Esq.

04/30/2010---Case Management Conference---(9:30 AM)---(Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 28, 2010, 10:32:44 AM
 ::MonkeyAngel:: Justice For Caylee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 28, 2010, 10:38:01 AM
 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::
   Justice for Caylee.

We remember you, Caylee.    ::MonkeyAngel::    We're on your side.    ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 28, 2010, 11:01:01 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
04/27/2010---Order---Setting Case Mangement Hearing with Attachment of Admin Order/Courtroom Decorum Policy

04/28/2010---Motion to Withdraw---Filed by Todd Macaluso, Esq.

04/30/2010---Case Management Conference---(9:30 AM)---(Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)




Unfortunately, I will miss it live because I will be attending services for my mother-in-law but confident that I will come home to see that Chief Justice Belvin Perry has the case well in hand.  My sweet MIL was following the case with me until she started to decline so my heart tells me that we have another angel assuring Caylee that justice on earth will be served for her.  The most memorable statement my MIL made regarding this case was a similar view shared by many of us, "like mother, like daughter" in reference to Cindy & Casey, on the back end of that observation she went further to state that she could not believe the evil looming in that family home.   I will state this in hopes you all understand it is not a bias statement made only on personal view but more a tribute to an amazing woman, now Caylee has another grandmother figure she certainly did not have here on earth.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 28, 2010, 11:07:22 AM
::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::
   Justice for Caylee.

We remember you, Caylee.    ::MonkeyAngel::    We're on your side.    ::MonkeyAngel::
Yes we are - Hi Sass  ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: can on April 28, 2010, 11:26:15 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
04/27/2010---Order---Setting Case Mangement Hearing with Attachment of Admin Order/Courtroom Decorum Policy

04/28/2010---Motion to Withdraw---Filed by Todd Macaluso, Esq.

04/30/2010---Case Management Conference---(9:30 AM)---(Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)




Unfortunately, I will miss it live because I will be attending services for my mother-in-law but confident that I will come home to see that Chief Justice Belvin Perry has the case well in hand.  My sweet MIL was following the case with me until she started to decline so my heart tells me that we have another angel assuring Caylee that justice on earth will be served for her.  The most memorable statement my MIL made regarding this case was a similar view shared by many of us, "like mother, like daughter" in reference to Cindy & Casey, on the back end of that observation she went further to state that she could not believe the evil looming in that family home.   I will state this in hopes you all understand it is not a bias statement made only on personal view but more a tribute to an amazing woman, now Caylee has another grandmother figure she certainly did not have here on earth.

Capp - Not to worry, you'll be up to snuff in no time and I most certainly understand your tribute to your lovely Mother-in-law that you were so blessed with.  There are messages to you in the Monkey Lounge.
Bless you and your family at this sad time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on April 28, 2010, 11:52:52 AM
((edit)) has a myspace page.  He's only got 23 friends.  I'm sure that Casey has told him she'll friend him as soon as this whole misunderstanding is over and she's out of detention.  I'll bet she's written him thanking him for thinking of her by putting money into her account.  Probably done lots of smooching to keep the dollars rolling in....  ::MonkeyKiss::  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on April 28, 2010, 11:55:45 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-lawyer-quits-20100428,0,5993708.story
Casey Anthony’s California lawyer withdraws from caseCasey Anthony’s California lawyer Todd Macaluso files motion to withdraw from the case.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 28, 2010, 12:23:52 PM
Casey Anthony's California attorney Todd Macaluso has filed a motion to be removed from her case because he is in trouble with the California Bar.

Macaluso filed the one-page motion Monday stating that he is on "involuntary inactive status with the California State Bar…for an undetermined period of time."

In February, Macaluso told the defense team that he could no longer represent Anthony because he had entered an alternative-discipline program after being accused of "moral turpitude, dishonesty or corruption" in handling several trust accounts.

The California State Bar alleged that he misappropriated about $145,000 and misused nearly $61,000 in client money.

At the time of the announcement, Macaluso denied any willful violation, blaming his staff and saying he was distracted and traumatized at the time by his brother's death.

Casey Anthony is still represented by Kissimmee lawyer Jose Baez, Orlando attorney Cheney Mason, Illinois-based attorney Andrea Lyon and New York-based attorney Linda Kenney Baden.

Anthony is accused of first-degree murder in the death of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee, in 2008. Casey Anthony is being held without bond at the Orange County Jail.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-lawyer-quits-20100428,0,5993708.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 28, 2010, 12:58:34 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
04/27/2010---Order---Setting Case Mangement Hearing with Attachment of Admin Order/Courtroom Decorum Policy

04/28/2010---Motion to Withdraw---Filed by Todd Macaluso, Esq.

04/30/2010---Case Management Conference---(9:30 AM)---(Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)




Unfortunately, I will miss it live because I will be attending services for my mother-in-law but confident that I will come home to see that Chief Justice Belvin Perry has the case well in hand.  My sweet MIL was following the case with me until she started to decline so my heart tells me that we have another angel assuring Caylee that justice on earth will be served for her.  The most memorable statement my MIL made regarding this case was a similar view shared by many of us, "like mother, like daughter" in reference to Cindy & Casey, on the back end of that observation she went further to state that she could not believe the evil looming in that family home.   I will state this in hopes you all understand it is not a bias statement made only on personal view but more a tribute to an amazing woman, now Caylee has another grandmother figure she certainly did not have here on earth.

Capp - Not to worry, you'll be up to snuff in no time and I most certainly understand your tribute to your lovely Mother-in-law that you were so blessed with.  There are messages to you in the Monkey Lounge.
Bless you and your family at this sad time.

Can, thank you so much for telling me as I didnt know.   There is a heartfelt message to you and everyone there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 28, 2010, 01:08:07 PM
I don't remember this interview with the A's.. 

Ran across it on the net while looking for something else. 

Anyone see this back in 2009?  The video is at the link below. 

~~~~~

Cindy Anthony: Haleigh's Dad Made a Mistake

posted Tuesday, June 16, 2009

http://www.momlogic.com/2009/06/cindy_anthony_haleighs_dad_made_a_mistake.php?page=2 (http://www.momlogic.com/2009/06/cindy_anthony_haleighs_dad_made_a_mistake.php?page=2)

On the anniversary of Caylee Anthony's disappearance, her grandmother lashes out at the father of missing girl Haleigh Cummings.

To mark the anniversary of the last day they saw their grandchild, George and Cindy Anthony granted CBS's "Early Show" an exclusive interview -- the majority of which they used to promote their Caylee Anthony Foundation.

<snipped>

Most outspoken against the Anthonys' newfound calling has been Ronald Cummings, the father of missing Florida girl Haleigh. George Anthony says he initially offered help in the Haleigh Cummings case "to show some support ... moral support." George says he promised to "stand in the background." The mother of Casey Anthony admonishes Cummings for turning down their aid. "To him I say: You made a mistake," she said. "When your child's missing, you can't turn anyone away." Cindy Anthony even dares to give herself credit for netting Cummings national media exposure on the night his daughter disappeared. "We had just got back from [Caylee's] memorial," she says. "We hurried up and made phone calls, desperate phone calls, to people. That was a day I should've just been home worrying about myself."

~~~~~~~~~

re the bolded part above.... Like Cindy had much room to talk, eh? 

She disgusts me with her endless plays for sympathy. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Dihannah1 on April 28, 2010, 02:03:54 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
04/27/2010---Order---Setting Case Mangement Hearing with Attachment of Admin Order/Courtroom Decorum Policy

04/28/2010---Motion to Withdraw---Filed by Todd Macaluso, Esq.

04/30/2010---Case Management Conference---(9:30 AM)---(Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)




Unfortunately, I will miss it live because I will be attending services for my mother-in-law but confident that I will come home to see that Chief Justice Belvin Perry has the case well in hand.  My sweet MIL was following the case with me until she started to decline so my heart tells me that we have another angel assuring Caylee that justice on earth will be served for her.  The most memorable statement my MIL made regarding this case was a similar view shared by many of us, "like mother, like daughter" in reference to Cindy & Casey, on the back end of that observation she went further to state that she could not believe the evil looming in that family home.   I will state this in hopes you all understand it is not a bias statement made only on personal view but more a tribute to an amazing woman, now Caylee has another grandmother figure she certainly did not have here on earth.

God Bless you and your family.  I have no doubt she has another, but "truly caring grandmother" watching over her.  That alone is comforting.  I have you and family left hear on earth to grieve in my prayers.  But do, please take comfort, not only is she not suffering, but she is up there watching over all those precious and innocent angels, no longer suffering either!   They are certainly in a better place than us!   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: loca on April 28, 2010, 02:04:39 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
04/27/2010---Order---Setting Case Mangement Hearing with Attachment of Admin Order/Courtroom Decorum Policy

04/28/2010---Motion to Withdraw---Filed by Todd Macaluso, Esq.

04/30/2010---Case Management Conference---(9:30 AM)---(Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)




Unfortunately, I will miss it live because I will be attending services for my mother-in-law but confident that I will come home to see that Chief Justice Belvin Perry has the case well in hand.  My sweet MIL was following the case with me until she started to decline so my heart tells me that we have another angel assuring Caylee that justice on earth will be served for her.  The most memorable statement my MIL made regarding this case was a similar view shared by many of us, "like mother, like daughter" in reference to Cindy & Casey, on the back end of that observation she went further to state that she could not believe the evil looming in that family home.   I will state this in hopes you all understand it is not a bias statement made only on personal view but more a tribute to an amazing woman, now Caylee has another grandmother figure she certainly did not have here on earth.

Capp - Not to worry, you'll be up to snuff in no time and I most certainly understand your tribute to your lovely Mother-in-law that you were so blessed with.  There are messages to you in the Monkey Lounge.
Bless you and your family at this sad time.

Can, thank you so much for telling me as I didnt know.   There is a heartfelt message to you and everyone there.

capp
from someone who has had a loss of  5 this week I totaly understand your pain. I lost the father of my children and my children   ! they asked my mother and I too leave  so I know pain.

yes blessed is caylee that your motherinlaw is there along with many other grandmothers to love her! making up for the love she had not here could not be any truer words said. go in peace and may god rest her soul.  may he comfort your family! my heart goes with you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 28, 2010, 02:40:04 PM
Thanks for the updates.   ::HelloKitty::
My poser keeps going off.   ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: klaasend on April 28, 2010, 03:09:23 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-lawyer-quits-20100428,0,5993708.story

Casey Anthony’s California lawyer withdraws from case
Casey Anthony’s California lawyer Todd Macaluso files motion to withdraw from the case.


By Bianca Prieto, Orlando Sentinel

11:14 AM EDT, April 28, 2010

Casey Anthony's California attorney Todd Macaluso has filed a motion to be removed from her case because he is in trouble with the California Bar.

Macaluso filed the one-page motion Monday stating that he is on "involuntary inactive status with the California State Bar…for an undetermined period of time."

In February, Macaluso told the defense team that he could no longer represent Anthony because he had entered an alternative-discipline program after being accused of "moral turpitude, dishonesty or corruption" in handling several trust accounts.

The California State Bar alleged that he misappropriated about $145,000 and misused nearly $61,000 in client money.

At the time of the announcement, Macaluso denied any willful violation, blaming his staff and saying he was distracted and traumatized at the time by his brother's death.

Casey Anthony is still represented by Kissimmee lawyer Jose Baez, Orlando attorney Cheney Mason, Illinois-based attorney Andrea Lyon and New York-based attorney Linda Kenney Baden.

Anthony is accused of first-degree murder in the death of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee, in 2008. Casey Anthony is being held without bond at the Orange County Jail.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 28, 2010, 03:21:58 PM
Tks so much Dihanna & Loco, my thoughts are with you as well.

It seems the media is missing the fact that Macaluso seems to have another pending bar complaint that pushed him to willingly give up his license to practice law.    I still want to know where the $70,000 he gave toward Casey's defense came from, how it was expended (same for Lyons).   If Im not mistaken it is prohibited to provide funds for the defense of a case you are litigating, I cannot look for a reference for it right now as Im off to the beauty salon & to pick up a few things that will be needed before the wake, I'll look when I can.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 28, 2010, 04:48:56 PM
Thanks for the updates.   ::HelloKitty::
My poser keeps going off.   ::MonkeyShocked::

 :smt100 WTF is a 'poser'  :smt102


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on April 28, 2010, 04:52:01 PM
Here is something you all might find interesting if you want to know more about her commissary orders what she can and can not order along with who the company is that provides inmates with these privileges you can look at this PDF file link below.  Please note if you want to skip ahead all the mumbo jumbo and get to what type of things she can order start on page 41 and it will continue on.  This PDF is the actual contract between the department of corrections and the commissary network, it's signed and dated.

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/business/contracts/c2562.pdf

*posted this again since thread locked and this posted late last night that I did*


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on April 28, 2010, 04:56:34 PM
Thanks for the updates.   ::HelloKitty::
My poser keeps going off.   ::MonkeyShocked::

 :smt100 WTF is a 'poser'  :smt102

Lol, Nut. I was wondering the same thing!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 28, 2010, 04:56:44 PM
Thanks for the updates.   ::HelloKitty::
My poser keeps going off.   ::MonkeyShocked::

 :smt100 WTF is a 'poser'  :smt102

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyHaHa::   If I knew, I would tell you.   I guess we'll have to wait for Trimm to come back and tell us.    ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 28, 2010, 05:06:34 PM
Trimm's power keeps going out  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 28, 2010, 05:12:25 PM
Thanks for the updates.   ::HelloKitty::
My poser keeps going off.   ::MonkeyShocked::

 :smt100 WTF is a 'poser'  :smt102

Power.   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on April 28, 2010, 05:17:52 PM
Oh...Your power. I hate when that happens.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 28, 2010, 05:33:59 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/
Casey Anthony: truTV to carry Friday hearing live
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Court TV, Orlando, Orlando Sentinel, WKMG, WOFL — posted by halboedeker on April, 28 2010 3:08 PM
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Where can you see the Casey Anthony hearing Friday morning?

Viewers will get to see Chief Judge Belvin Perry, the new judge in the case, that morning.

A national TV audience can catch the hearing live at 9:30 a.m. on truTV’s “In Session.”

WOFL-Channel 35 will broadcast part of the hearing live during a morning newscast. WKMG-Channel 6 said it will carry the hearing at its Web site, ClickOrlando.com.

When I hear what other stations are doing, I’ll pass that information along.

Coverage will be available at OrlandoSentinel.com as well.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 28, 2010, 06:10:57 PM
 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Trimmy...I can't stop laughing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Blumonkey on April 28, 2010, 06:54:08 PM
Thanks for the updates.   ::HelloKitty::
My poser keeps going off.   ::MonkeyShocked::

 :smt100 WTF is a 'poser'  :smt102

Power.   ::MonkeyJnBox::

So funny ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 28, 2010, 07:38:19 PM
I don't remember this interview with the A's.. 

Ran across it on the net while looking for something else. 

Anyone see this back in 2009?  The video is at the link below. 

~~~~~

Cindy Anthony: Haleigh's Dad Made a Mistake

posted Tuesday, June 16, 2009

http://www.momlogic.com/2009/06/cindy_anthony_haleighs_dad_made_a_mistake.php?page=2 (http://www.momlogic.com/2009/06/cindy_anthony_haleighs_dad_made_a_mistake.php?page=2)

On the anniversary of Caylee Anthony's disappearance, her grandmother lashes out at the father of missing girl Haleigh Cummings.

To mark the anniversary of the last day they saw their grandchild, George and Cindy Anthony granted CBS's "Early Show" an exclusive interview -- the majority of which they used to promote their Caylee Anthony Foundation.

<snipped>

Most outspoken against the Anthonys' newfound calling has been Ronald Cummings, the father of missing Florida girl Haleigh. George Anthony says he initially offered help in the Haleigh Cummings case "to show some support ... moral support." George says he promised to "stand in the background." The mother of Casey Anthony admonishes Cummings for turning down their aid. "To him I say: You made a mistake," she said. "When your child's missing, you can't turn anyone away." Cindy Anthony even dares to give herself credit for netting Cummings national media exposure on the night his daughter disappeared. "We had just got back from [Caylee's] memorial," she says. "We hurried up and made phone calls, desperate phone calls, to people. That was a day I should've just been home worrying about myself."

~~~~~~~~~

re the bolded part above.... Like Cindy had much room to talk, eh? 

She disgusts me with her endless plays for sympathy. 


I remember that interview. Saw it on The Today Show or Larry King, I think. But I definitely remember it, because it also made me sick.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 28, 2010, 08:12:58 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/23295973/detail.html
Attorney Wants To Be Removed From Casey Case
Posted: 6:09 pm EDT April 28, 2010Updated: 6:26 pm EDT April 28, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- One of Casey Anthony’s defense attorneys has filed a motion to officially be removed from the case (read it)

Motion: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23293111/detail.html
Attorney Todd Macaluso submitted the motion on Monday because he has been disbarred in California. WFTV reported in February when Macaluso left the defense team due to a disciplinary issue with the California state bar.

Casey Anthony is in jail, accused of killing her daughter Caylee Anthony in 2008.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 28, 2010, 08:14:53 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23291145/detail.html
Anthony Attorney Officially Withdraws
POSTED: Wednesday, April 28, 2010
UPDATED: 2:50 pm EDT April 28, 2010
<snipped>
A California attorney on Casey Anthony's defense team has filed paperwork to withdraw from her murder case.

Todd Macaluso filed a motion in Orange County on Monday, saying he is currently on involuntary inactive status with the California State Bar.

Macaluso announced his withdrawal from the case in February.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 28, 2010, 08:43:37 PM
http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/
The Oracular Egg: Jose Baez to Outdo Ferris Beuller
04/28/10


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 28, 2010, 08:50:48 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
04/28/2010           Motion to Withdraw
Filed by Todd Macaluso, Esq.
04/28/2010           Motion
Amended Second; to Preclude Death Procedures for Impermissible Prosecutorial Motives With Exhibits
04/28/2010           Memorandum
Amended; of Law in Support of Second Defense Motion to Preclude Death Procedures for Impermissible Prosecutorial Motives
04/28/2010           Motion
Amended Second; to Preclude Death Procedures for Impermissible Prosecutorial Motives
04/28/2010           Memorandum
of Law in Support of Defendant's Motion for Protective Order With Respect to Penalty Phase Discovery
04/28/2010           Motion
Defendant's; for Protective Order With Respect to Penalty Phase Discovery
04/28/2010           Memorandum
of Law in Support of Defendant's Motion to Declare Florida Statute 921/141 Unconstitutional for Inadequate Appellate Review
04/28/2010           Motion
to Declare Florida Statute 921/141 Unconstitutional for Inadequate Appellate Review
04/28/2010           Memorandum
of Law in Support of Defendant's Motion to Preclude the State's Impermissible, Gender Biased, Request for Imposition of the Death Penalty
04/28/2010           Motion
to Preclude the State's Impermissible, Gender Biased, Request for Imposition of the Death Penalty
04/30/2010           Case Management Conference  (9:30 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Babybear on April 28, 2010, 09:56:11 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
04/28/2010           Motion to Withdraw
Filed by Todd Macaluso, Esq.
04/28/2010           Motion
Amended Second; to Preclude Death Procedures for Impermissible Prosecutorial Motives With Exhibits
04/28/2010           Memorandum
Amended; of Law in Support of Second Defense Motion to Preclude Death Procedures for Impermissible Prosecutorial Motives
04/28/2010           Motion
Amended Second; to Preclude Death Procedures for Impermissible Prosecutorial Motives
04/28/2010           Memorandum
of Law in Support of Defendant's Motion for Protective Order With Respect to Penalty Phase Discovery
04/28/2010           Motion
Defendant's; for Protective Order With Respect to Penalty Phase Discovery
04/28/2010           Memorandum
of Law in Support of Defendant's Motion to Declare Florida Statute 921/141 Unconstitutional for Inadequate Appellate Review
04/28/2010           Motion
to Declare Florida Statute 921/141 Unconstitutional for Inadequate Appellate Review
04/28/2010           Memorandum
of Law in Support of Defendant's Motion to Preclude the State's Impermissible, Gender Biased, Request for Imposition of the Death Penalty
04/28/2010           Motion
to Preclude the State's Impermissible, Gender Biased, Request for Imposition of the Death Penalty
04/30/2010           Case Management Conference  (9:30 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)

Hi Trim.  Thanks for all the above. You're looking especially cute tonight flitting around. 

I don't see how they can claim gender bias.  I'm quite sure that in FL many more men are sentenced to death than women.  If it is biased, it is biased in favor of women.  Nor is it impermissible.  FL law permits the death penalty.  The US  Supreme Court has ruled it is permissible within certain parameters.   These people are grasping at straws.  I hope Judge Perry shoots them down forthwith.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sister on April 28, 2010, 09:57:29 PM
Tks so much Dihanna & Loco, my thoughts are with you as well.

It seems the media is missing the fact that Macaluso seems to have another pending bar complaint that pushed him to willingly give up his license to practice law.    I still want to know where the $70,000 he gave toward Casey's defense came from, how it was expended (same for Lyons).   If Im not mistaken it is prohibited to provide funds for the defense of a case you are litigating, I cannot look for a reference for it right now as Im off to the beauty salon & to pick up a few things that will be needed before the wake, I'll look when I can.

Capp, you are correct.  You are prohibited from providing funds for the defense of a case you are litigating.  How Mack and AL got around this is beyond me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 28, 2010, 10:47:17 PM
Here is something you all might find interesting if you want to know more about her commissary orders what she can and can not order along with who the company is that provides inmates with these privileges you can look at this PDF file link below.  Please note if you want to skip ahead all the mumbo jumbo and get to what type of things she can order start on page 41 and it will continue on.  This PDF is the actual contract between the department of corrections and the commissary network, it's signed and dated.

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/business/contracts/c2562.pdf

*posted this again since thread locked and this posted late last night that I did*

They have a lot of choices. How do they heat their food they buy? Are there microwaves for them?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 28, 2010, 10:53:46 PM
http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/
The Oracular Egg: Jose Baez to Outdo Ferris Beuller
04/28/10

OMG - that is hillarious !!!!



-Orlando, FL

Sources close to the Casey Anthony trial revealed this week that judicial embarrasment Jose “Ummmmmmmm…Uhhhhh” Baez has conveniently declared himself unavailable for 11 days in June, when several defense motions were set to be heard by Honorable Badass Blevin Perry, the new judge presiding over the case. This gave rise to speculation that Jose The Ruler of Incompetence could be preparing to waddle on to greener pastures now that Perry’s steel toed boots have replaced Judge Strickland’s defense-friendly, rose-scented slippers in the courtroom. To get to the bottom of the issue, Egg Tree News goes gypsy, and looks deep into the crystal ball to find out what Poppin Fresh Bozo REALLY has planned for those 11 days off in June:

1. Snoozing until noon in his race car shaped bed with his obese pug, Casey Marie, snoring and drooling all over his Taco Bell themed sheets.

2. Breaking Casey Anthony out of jail for a few days by rigging a mannequin in her cot to stir when the cell door opens, and wiring a taped recording of her obnoxious voice to drive away the oblivious guards.

3. Dropping the full caseload on a resentful Lyon, who goes into mission mode to track him down and destroy him.

4. Calling amoral daredevil Todd Macaluso, and double daring him to steal Geraldo’s yacht for a wild adventure down the Hudson, where they’ll drunkenly sing “Danke Schoen” into a megaphone for all nearby boating enthusiasts.

5. Forcing Mason to pose as the real Colonel Sanders on a drunken trip to KFC so they can get a free heart attack in a bucket, then instigate a foodfight before departing.

6. Attending an Orlando Magic basketball game in full body paint and a thong, AND making the free throw at half time.

7. Taking a tour of the controversial new “Bull$hit Art Gallery” at the heart of Universal Studios, and getting transfixed by a massive sculpture called “Hopespring of Poop,” by Cindy Anthony.

8. Flying a blimp the size of his own a$$ over Orlando that reads “Save Casey: Make Checks Payable to The CMA Foundation. P.S. Show Me Your Tits”

9. Proposing to Casey in a hot tub filled with spicy peanuts and hot dogs.

10. Outrunning The Lyon as she chases him down driving a Kidfinders’ mobile billboard that displays ads for her new book, “Angel of Death Row.”

http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/
The Oracular Egg: Jose Baez to Outdo Ferris Beulle


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 28, 2010, 10:55:36 PM
Tks so much Dihanna & Loco, my thoughts are with you as well.

It seems the media is missing the fact that Macaluso seems to have another pending bar complaint that pushed him to willingly give up his license to practice law.    I still want to know where the $70,000 he gave toward Casey's defense came from, how it was expended (same for Lyons).   If Im not mistaken it is prohibited to provide funds for the defense of a case you are litigating, I cannot look for a reference for it right now as Im off to the beauty salon & to pick up a few things that will be needed before the wake, I'll look when I can.

I would like for the judge to ask to see those checks and the deposits for those amounts. Somehow I have always felt that was some kind of "ring around the two set of books" game.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 28, 2010, 11:02:04 PM
http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/
The Oracular Egg: Jose Baez to Outdo Ferris Beuller
04/28/10


 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Dihannah1 on April 28, 2010, 11:35:00 PM
Here is something you all might find interesting if you want to know more about her commissary orders what she can and can not order along with who the company is that provides inmates with these privileges you can look at this PDF file link below.  Please note if you want to skip ahead all the mumbo jumbo and get to what type of things she can order start on page 41 and it will continue on.  This PDF is the actual contract between the department of corrections and the commissary network, it's signed and dated.

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/business/contracts/c2562.pdf

*posted this again since thread locked and this posted late last night that I did*

Thanks for the info Rowan.  How interesting.  They get treated like staying a hotel, but cheaper room service!  And, they can buy cigarettes????   They get them for half the price than out here at a store!   Unbelievable, with all the starving children here in the states and prisoners get treated with practically royalty!  Makes me sick and the TAX PAYERS of FL pay for that.   Geesh, makes me want to see what I'm paying for the Ohio scumbags!  I say people should start boiling and speaking out!  Unfortunately, most don't pay attention or even know.  We are all hurting enough in this economy and she doesn't have a care in the world.  Roof over her head, 3 square meals,  plus idiots who keep sending her money to buy more crap and a nice warm bed to sleep on.  OH THAT P!SSES ME OFF!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Dihannah1 on April 28, 2010, 11:38:24 PM
Here is something you all might find interesting if you want to know more about her commissary orders what she can and can not order along with who the company is that provides inmates with these privileges you can look at this PDF file link below.  Please note if you want to skip ahead all the mumbo jumbo and get to what type of things she can order start on page 41 and it will continue on.  This PDF is the actual contract between the department of corrections and the commissary network, it's signed and dated.

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/business/contracts/c2562.pdf

*posted this again since thread locked and this posted late last night that I did*

They have a lot of choices. How do they heat their food they buy? Are there microwaves for them?

Looking at that list, it wouldn't surprise me.  Even if they don't have there own, they probably can get one of the room severs to heat it for them. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on April 29, 2010, 12:46:03 AM

http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/
The Oracular Egg: Jose Baez to Outdo Ferris Beuller

OMG! That is too funny!
I laughed for 45 minutes from "poser" and now this!  I'll never get to sleep tonight!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 29, 2010, 05:50:12 AM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2010/04/latest-casey-anthony-news/
Latest Casey Anthony news-2 Hearings



BabyBear,Friday is fast approaching.    ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 29, 2010, 05:56:16 AM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/
Cheney Mason’s Bet
April 28, 2010 · 111 Comments



Good Morning Monkeys.   ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 29, 2010, 08:36:47 AM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/casey-anthony-attorney-no-long.html
WDBO Local News      
Casey Anthony attorney banned from practicing law
By
Bob Hazen
@ April 29, 2010 6:41 AM Permalink | Comments (0)
One of Casey Anthony's attorneys wants to be removed from the case after the State Bar of California took away his eligibility to practice law.
Todd Macaluso is best known for his claim in open court that the defense had evidence proving the remains of Anthony's daughter Caylee were put in the woods where they were found after Anthony was already in the Orange County jail. To date, the defense has not backed up that claim.

Macaluso has been under investigation by California's bar for months. On Monday, the bar issued an order making him an "inactive" member and unable to practice law. Wednesday, Macaluso filed a motion to withdraw from the Anthony case in Orange County court.

Anthony will be in court for a hearing Friday in front of the new judge on the case, Chief Judge Belvin Perry, Jr. He took over the case after the previous judge, Stan Strickland, removed himself. Defense attorneys argued he made inappropriate contact with a blogger.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 29, 2010, 09:31:44 AM
Thanks for the updates Trimm.  I say bring back the chain gang, hard work won't kill the prisoners.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 10:03:21 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
04/28/2010           Motion to Withdraw
Filed by Todd Macaluso, Esq.
04/28/2010           Motion
Amended Second; to Preclude Death Procedures for Impermissible Prosecutorial Motives With Exhibits
04/28/2010           Memorandum
Amended; of Law in Support of Second Defense Motion to Preclude Death Procedures for Impermissible Prosecutorial Motives
04/28/2010           Motion
Amended Second; to Preclude Death Procedures for Impermissible Prosecutorial Motives
04/28/2010           Memorandum
of Law in Support of Defendant's Motion for Protective Order With Respect to Penalty Phase Discovery
04/28/2010           Motion
Defendant's; for Protective Order With Respect to Penalty Phase Discovery
04/28/2010           Memorandum
of Law in Support of Defendant's Motion to Declare Florida Statute 921/141 Unconstitutional for Inadequate Appellate Review
04/28/2010           Motion
to Declare Florida Statute 921/141 Unconstitutional for Inadequate Appellate Review
04/28/2010           Memorandum
of Law in Support of Defendant's Motion to Preclude the State's Impermissible, Gender Biased, Request for Imposition of the Death Penalty
04/28/2010           Motion
to Preclude the State's Impermissible, Gender Biased, Request for Imposition of the Death Penalty
04/30/2010           Case Management Conference  (9:30 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)

Good Morning Monks...and thanks trim....my, my Mason and Lyon's students have been busy ...amended, amended, amended (AKA.......ooopppppssssss).......... gender biased???????????  I hope JP slaps them down good  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 10:04:52 AM
Tks so much Dihanna & Loco, my thoughts are with you as well.

It seems the media is missing the fact that Macaluso seems to have another pending bar complaint that pushed him to willingly give up his license to practice law.    I still want to know where the $70,000 he gave toward Casey's defense came from, how it was expended (same for Lyons).   If Im not mistaken it is prohibited to provide funds for the defense of a case you are litigating, I cannot look for a reference for it right now as Im off to the beauty salon & to pick up a few things that will be needed before the wake, I'll look when I can.

Capp, you are correct.  You are prohibited from providing funds for the defense of a case you are litigating.  How Mack and AL got around this is beyond me.

yes, we discussed this in the past couple of weeks..when it was first brought out in fact.
 ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 10:06:10 AM
http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/
The Oracular Egg: Jose Baez to Outdo Ferris Beuller
04/28/10

OMG - that is hillarious !!!!



-Orlando, FL

Sources close to the Casey Anthony trial revealed this week that judicial embarrasment Jose “Ummmmmmmm…Uhhhhh” Baez has conveniently declared himself unavailable for 11 days in June, when several defense motions were set to be heard by Honorable Badass Blevin Perry, the new judge presiding over the case. This gave rise to speculation that Jose The Ruler of Incompetence could be preparing to waddle on to greener pastures now that Perry’s steel toed boots have replaced Judge Strickland’s defense-friendly, rose-scented slippers in the courtroom. To get to the bottom of the issue, Egg Tree News goes gypsy, and looks deep into the crystal ball to find out what Poppin Fresh Bozo REALLY has planned for those 11 days off in June:

1. Snoozing until noon in his race car shaped bed with his obese pug, Casey Marie, snoring and drooling all over his Taco Bell themed sheets.

2. Breaking Casey Anthony out of jail for a few days by rigging a mannequin in her cot to stir when the cell door opens, and wiring a taped recording of her obnoxious voice to drive away the oblivious guards.

3. Dropping the full caseload on a resentful Lyon, who goes into mission mode to track him down and destroy him.

4. Calling amoral daredevil Todd Macaluso, and double daring him to steal Geraldo’s yacht for a wild adventure down the Hudson, where they’ll drunkenly sing “Danke Schoen” into a megaphone for all nearby boating enthusiasts.

5. Forcing Mason to pose as the real Colonel Sanders on a drunken trip to KFC so they can get a free heart attack in a bucket, then instigate a foodfight before departing.

6. Attending an Orlando Magic basketball game in full body paint and a thong, AND making the free throw at half time.

7. Taking a tour of the controversial new “Bull$hit Art Gallery” at the heart of Universal Studios, and getting transfixed by a massive sculpture called “Hopespring of Poop,” by Cindy Anthony.

8. Flying a blimp the size of his own a$$ over Orlando that reads “Save Casey: Make Checks Payable to The CMA Foundation. P.S. Show Me Your Tits”

9. Proposing to Casey in a hot tub filled with spicy peanuts and hot dogs.

10. Outrunning The Lyon as she chases him down driving a Kidfinders’ mobile billboard that displays ads for her new book, “Angel of Death Row.”

http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/
The Oracular Egg: Jose Baez to Outdo Ferris Beulle


 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on April 29, 2010, 10:07:19 AM
http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/
The Oracular Egg: Jose Baez to Outdo Ferris Beuller
04/28/10

RONTFLMAO   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 10:09:55 AM
Thanks for the updates Trimm.  I say bring back the chain gang, hard work won't kill the prisoners.

nrcg, I agree!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 29, 2010, 10:29:31 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
Computer Savvy Casey?
Posted on April 29th, 2010 by JWG


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sister on April 29, 2010, 10:44:41 AM
Tks so much Dihanna & Loco, my thoughts are with you as well.

It seems the media is missing the fact that Macaluso seems to have another pending bar complaint that pushed him to willingly give up his license to practice law.    I still want to know where the $70,000 he gave toward Casey's defense came from, how it was expended (same for Lyons).   If Im not mistaken it is prohibited to provide funds for the defense of a case you are litigating, I cannot look for a reference for it right now as Im off to the beauty salon & to pick up a few things that will be needed before the wake, I'll look when I can.

Capp, you are correct.  You are prohibited from providing funds for the defense of a case you are litigating.  How Mack and AL got around this is beyond me.

yes, we discussed this in the past couple of weeks..when it was first brought out in fact.
 ::rhino:: ::rhino::

Thanks Sunny, I'll go back and do some reading again -- me sometimes forgetful.
 ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 11:04:58 AM
Tks so much Dihanna & Loco, my thoughts are with you as well.

It seems the media is missing the fact that Macaluso seems to have another pending bar complaint that pushed him to willingly give up his license to practice law.    I still want to know where the $70,000 he gave toward Casey's defense came from, how it was expended (same for Lyons).   If Im not mistaken it is prohibited to provide funds for the defense of a case you are litigating, I cannot look for a reference for it right now as Im off to the beauty salon & to pick up a few things that will be needed before the wake, I'll look when I can.

Capp, you are correct.  You are prohibited from providing funds for the defense of a case you are litigating.  How Mack and AL got around this is beyond me.

yes, we discussed this in the past couple of weeks..when it was first brought out in fact.
 ::rhino:: ::rhino::

Thanks Sunny, I'll go back and do some reading again -- me sometimes forgetful.
 ::HelloKitty::

LOL...me too Sister....it stuck with me because the first thing I wondered was this part of the money he had stole from his clients and once when I was talking to Jim Morgan he mentioned something about how they (the law firm was not able to legally help Zenaida financially...as in give her money) that was when I let Monks know about the paypal link on Mr. Morgan's site that would go to helping her.  And I know some Monks went and donated.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 29, 2010, 11:31:48 AM
Here is the pertinent Rule regulating the Florida Bar:



RULE 4-1.8 CONFLICT OF INTEREST; PROHIBITED TRANSACTIONS

(a) Business Transactions With or Acquiring Interest Adverse to Client. A lawyer shall not enter into a business transaction with a client or knowingly acquire an ownership, possessory, security, or other pecuniary interest adverse to a client, except a lien granted by law to secure a lawyer's fee or expenses, unless:

(1) the transaction and terms on which the lawyer acquires the interest are fair and reasonable to the client and are fully disclosed and transmitted in writing to the client in a manner that can be reasonably understood by the client;

(2) the client is given a reasonable opportunity to seek the advice of independent counsel in the transaction; and

(3) the client consents in writing thereto.

(b) Using Information to Disadvantage of Client. A lawyer shall not use information relating to representation of a client to the disadvantage of the client unless the client consents after consultation, except as permitted or required by rule 4-1.6.

(c) Gifts to Lawyer or Lawyer's Family. A lawyer shall not prepare an instrument giving the lawyer or a person related to the lawyer as parent, child, sibling, or spouse any substantial gift from a client, including a testamentary gift, except where the client is related to the donee.

(d) Acquiring Literary or Media Rights. Prior to the conclusion of representation of a client, a lawyer shall not make or negotiate an agreement giving the lawyer literary or media rights to a portrayal or account based in substantial part on information relating to the representation.

(e) Financial Assistance to Client. A lawyer shall not provide financial assistance to a client in connection with pending or contemplated litigation, except that:

(1) a lawyer may advance court costs and expenses of litigation, the repayment of which may be contingent on the outcome of the matter; and

(2) a lawyer representing an indigent client may pay court costs and expenses of litigation on behalf of the client.

(f) Compensation by Third Party. A lawyer shall not accept compensation for representing a client from one other than the client unless:

(1) the client consents after consultation;

(2) there is no interference with the lawyer's independence of professional judgment or with the client-lawyer relationship; and

(3) information relating to representation of a client is protected as required by rule 4-1.6.

(g) Settlement of Claims for Multiple Clients. A lawyer who represents 2 or more clients shall not participate in making an aggregate settlement of the claims of or against the clients, or in a criminal case an aggregated agreement as to guilty or nolo contendere pleas, unless each client consents after consultation, including disclosure of the existence and nature of all the claims or pleas involved and of the participation of each person in the settlement.

(h) Limiting Liability for Malpractice. A lawyer shall not make an agreement prospectively limiting the lawyer's liability to a client for malpractice unless permitted by law and the client is independently represented in making the agreement. A lawyer shall not settle a claim for such liability with an unrepresented client or former client without first advising that person in writing that independent representation is appropriate in connection therewith.

(i) Acquiring Proprietary Interest in Cause of Action. A lawyer shall not acquire a proprietary interest in the cause of action or subject matter of litigation the lawyer is conducting for a client, except that the lawyer may:

(1) acquire a lien granted by law to secure the lawyer's fee or expenses; and

(2) contract with a client for a reasonable contingent fee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 11:37:03 AM
Tks so much Dihanna & Loco, my thoughts are with you as well.

It seems the media is missing the fact that Macaluso seems to have another pending bar complaint that pushed him to willingly give up his license to practice law.    I still want to know where the $70,000 he gave toward Casey's defense came from, how it was expended (same for Lyons).   If Im not mistaken it is prohibited to provide funds for the defense of a case you are litigating, I cannot look for a reference for it right now as Im off to the beauty salon & to pick up a few things that will be needed before the wake, I'll look when I can.

Capp, you are correct.  You are prohibited from providing funds for the defense of a case you are litigating.  How Mack and AL got around this is beyond me.

yes, we discussed this in the past couple of weeks..when it was first brought out in fact.
 ::rhino:: ::rhino::

Thanks Sunny, I'll go back and do some reading again -- me sometimes forgetful.
 ::HelloKitty::

Sister, my search skills are not real great....but so far I haven't been able to find where we discussed this....so perhaps I was wrong and read it someplace else....but I thought for sure it was here.....perhaps if trim sees this post she will be able to find it...if it was here....if it wasn't them I haven't a clue where I read about it....sorry if I was misleading saying we had discussed it.....I will keep looking. I didn't want you to go back and try to find something that might not be there ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 11:38:52 AM
LOL....Sister, capp just posted what I was talking about!  It was posted and discussed SOMEPLACE!  LOL......



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 12:00:46 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
Computer Savvy Casey?
Posted on April 29th, 2010 by JWG

thanks trim.....not being exactly computer savvy myself, I had to read this several times to come close to understanding...and to be honest, I am still not sure I do ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 12:14:38 PM
Last week we were discussing why inmates don't clean their own cells....here's a good example of why.....

Baby Gabriel's mom accused of assaulting inmate in Arizona jail

The mother of the missing Baby Gabriel is in even more trouble.

Elizabeth Johnson is now facing assault charges after allegedly attacking an inmate at the Maricopa County Jail in Arizona, where she's being held in the child's disappearance.

Jail video shows her spraying a cleaning solution in an inmate's face.


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7011.700


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 29, 2010, 12:35:01 PM
Last week we were discussing why inmates don't clean their own cells....here's a good example of why.....

Baby Gabriel's mom accused of assaulting inmate in Arizona jail

The mother of the missing Baby Gabriel is in even more trouble.

Elizabeth Johnson is now facing assault charges after allegedly attacking an inmate at the Maricopa County Jail in Arizona, where she's being held in the child's disappearance.

Jail video shows her spraying a cleaning solution in an inmate's face.


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7011.700

Yup

This and the comment she made to her ex about what she did to Gabriel (horrid) lends one to believe she is very capable of murder.   That being said, I smell a diminished capacity defense arising...I havent been to Gabriel's thread in a week or two so this article served as an update as well. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 02:05:47 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23242644/detail.html


I missed this.....I knew/read they were there. but somehow I got the impression, they came and left without doing anything. This seems to point out that they were indeed looks at documents and got PO'd when the media found out.  My ??? is did they leave because they were being video taped (I am thinking perhaps Mr. Nejame's office was video taping them in a conference room ensuring they weren't writing anything down or taking pictures with phones etc) and they found out........or was it because the media showed up?



On Friday, for the first time in eight months, the attorneys visited Nejame's office and were caught on video inside a conference room looking through boxes of documents.

Although the attorney representing Texas EquuSearch said none of the 4,000 volunteers searched the exact spot where Caylee's remains were found, Anthony's defense team wanted to see for themselves. Shortly after Local 6 arrived at Nejame's office, Anthony's attorneys stormed off.

Baez and Mason would not explain why they were finally viewing the records, and it's not known if the attorneys would be returning to Nejame's office.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 29, 2010, 02:10:46 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/29/embattled_lawyer_wants_off_casey_case.html
 Embattled Lawyer Wants Off Casey Case
Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:48:24 AM
ORLANDO -- One of Casey Anthony’s lawyers said he wants to be taken off the case.

Todd Macaluso said he is in trouble with the California state bar after he was accused of mishandling some cases.

A motion he filed with the court said his license to practice law in California is inactive, and he is being disciplined by that state’s bar.

Macaluso’s departure from the Casey Anthony case would still leave her with four other lawyers to defend her from charges she killed her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.

The murder trial is not scheduled to start until 2011.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Babybear on April 29, 2010, 02:14:04 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2010/04/latest-casey-anthony-news/
Latest Casey Anthony news-2 Hearings



BabyBear,Friday is fast approaching.    ::CowboySmiley::

Hi Trim---Yes, It's fast approaching.  I have to take my dog to the vet tomorrow to get his blood sugar checked, but I'll be back home by 9:00.  I don't know when Judge Strickland ruled that Casey could wear civilian clothes in the court room for these pre-trial hearings, but I hope Judge Perry will put her back in prison clothes until there is a jury selected and present. Actually, she would looke better in prison clothes than those ill-fitting garbs Cindy furnishes. Why does she get special treatment? She's no better than the regular run of murderer, in fact if she killed Caylee with duct tape on her mouth and nose, that especially heinous.  IMO none of the Anthonys deserve special treatment, but they sure get it.  I so hope Judge Perry clamps down on them, especially the gum, water bottle, and Iphone.

Thanks again for all the info you bring.

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 02:14:14 PM
I am beginning to think I have LOST days............I do not remember seeing this either.

But IMO it's worth watching again....the DUHfence are so screwed! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlYSUlmxldc


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 29, 2010, 02:14:50 PM
Thanks for the updates Trimm.  I say bring back the chain gang, hard work won't kill the prisoners.

I totally agree!  Not only would that likely be a compelling reason to not get oneself into prison in the first place, but it also would allow inmates an opportunity to work off their pent-up energy and feelings, etc.  Less trouble in prison when they return of an evening, they will be too exhausted.  One of our problems today in prisons everywhere is that inmates have it too dang comfy with little to no way to let off steam.  Not that I care much about them perse, yet being comfy with no activity just creates more problems than staff can handle.  Putting them to work, hard work, chain gang type work, IMO is a good thing all around. 

Pisses me off when I see what inmates (in many if not all states) are allowed in their cells, etc.  Seems it's gotten to the point that many prefer being in prison/jail than released to the outside.  That ought to not be!!!!!!! 

There was a man over in Lincoln (nebraska) who got out of prison and within a week or so robbed a bank, handed the teller a note that said something to the effect that he'd be waiting just outside for the police.  And he was!  Back to prison he went.  Turns out he liked it better in there.  True story!  Sigh. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Babybear on April 29, 2010, 02:20:50 PM
I am beginning to think I have LOST days............I do not remember seeing this either.

But IMO it's worth watching again....the DUHfence are so screwed! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlYSUlmxldc


Hi Sunny--Thanks for that video; I hadn't seen it either. I'd say that Baez had no comment because he's still in shock since Judge Perry has taken over the case.
Isn't it delicious?    ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 02:21:34 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2010/04/latest-casey-anthony-news/
Latest Casey Anthony news-2 Hearings



BabyBear,Friday is fast approaching.    ::CowboySmiley::

Hi Trim---Yes, It's fast approaching.  I have to take my dog to the vet tomorrow to get his blood sugar checked, but I'll be back home by 9:00.  I don't know when Judge Strickland ruled that Casey could wear civilian clothes in the court room for these pre-trial hearings, but I hope Judge Perry will put her back in prison clothes until there is a jury selected and present. Actually, she would looke better in prison clothes than those ill-fitting garbs Cindy furnishes. Why does she get special treatment? She's no better than the regular run of murderer, in fact if she killed Caylee with duct tape on her mouth and nose, that especially heinous.  IMO none of the Anthonys deserve special treatment, but they sure get it.  I so hope Judge Perry clamps down on them, especially the gum, water bottle, and Iphone.

Thanks again for all the info you bring.

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

BB, I too hope JP puts her back in jail garb...........I suppose since JS insisted she be there for EVER hearing he was a bit more lenient on the dress code. I hope JP brings a different level of respect for the court.......and that includes the gallery portion ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 29, 2010, 02:21:45 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/29/embattled_lawyer_wants_off_casey_case.html
 Embattled Lawyer Wants Off Casey Case
Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:48:24 AM
ORLANDO -- One of Casey Anthony’s lawyers said he wants to be taken off the case.

Todd Macaluso said he is in trouble with the California state bar after he was accused of mishandling some cases.

A motion he filed with the court said his license to practice law in California is inactive, and he is being disciplined by that state’s bar.

Macaluso’s departure from the Casey Anthony case would still leave her with four other lawyers to defend her from charges she killed her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.

The murder trial is not scheduled to start until 2011.


Seems to me that since Casey has been declared indigident, she ought to be assigned ONE public defender and the rest of her 'dream team' kicked to the curb.  IMO. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 29, 2010, 02:23:27 PM
I am beginning to think I have LOST days............I do not remember seeing this either.

But IMO it's worth watching again....the DUHfence are so screwed! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlYSUlmxldc


Hi Sunny--Thanks for that video; I hadn't seen it either. I'd say that Baez had no comment because he's still in shock since Judge Perry has taken over the case.
Isn't it delicious?    ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

It is!!!!   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 02:24:12 PM
Thanks for the updates Trimm.  I say bring back the chain gang, hard work won't kill the prisoners.

I totally agree!  Not only would that likely be a compelling reason to not get oneself into prison in the first place, but it also would allow inmates an opportunity to work off their pent-up energy and feelings, etc.  Less trouble in prison when they return of an evening, they will be too exhausted.  One of our problems today in prisons everywhere is that inmates have it too dang comfy with little to no way to let off steam.  Not that I care much about them perse, yet being comfy with no activity just creates more problems than staff can handle.  Putting them to work, hard work, chain gang type work, IMO is a good thing all around. 

Pisses me off when I see what inmates (in many if not all states) are allowed in their cells, etc.  Seems it's gotten to the point that many prefer being in prison/jail than released to the outside.  That ought to not be!!!!!!! 

There was a man over in Lincoln (nebraska) who got out of prison and within a week or so robbed a bank, handed the teller a note that said something to the effect that he'd be waiting just outside for the police.  And he was!  Back to prison he went.  Turns out he liked it better in there.  True story!  Sigh. 


Hi Wyks, I am sooooooo in agreement with you........it's time to get back to making punishment, PUNISHMENT!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 02:26:38 PM
I am beginning to think I have LOST days............I do not remember seeing this either.

But IMO it's worth watching again....the DUHfence are so screwed! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlYSUlmxldc


Hi Sunny--Thanks for that video; I hadn't seen it either. I'd say that Baez had no comment because he's still in shock since Judge Perry has taken over the case.
Isn't it delicious?    ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

It sure is...I'd be willing to bet they never thought for a moment JP would take over the case himself, but would turn it over to another judge....... ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Babybear on April 29, 2010, 02:27:27 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23242644/detail.html


I missed this.....I knew/read they were there. but somehow I got the impression, they came and left without doing anything. This seems to point out that they were indeed looks at documents and got PO'd when the media found out.  My ??? is did they leave because they were being video taped (I am thinking perhaps Mr. Nejame's office was video taping them in a conference room ensuring they weren't writing anything down or taking pictures with phones etc) and they found out........or was it because the media showed up?



On Friday, for the first time in eight months, the attorneys visited Nejame's office and were caught on video inside a conference room looking through boxes of documents.

Although the attorney representing Texas EquuSearch said none of the 4,000 volunteers searched the exact spot where Caylee's remains were found, Anthony's defense team wanted to see for themselves. Shortly after Local 6 arrived at Nejame's office, Anthony's attorneys stormed off.

Baez and Mason would not explain why they were finally viewing the records, and it's not known if the attorneys would be returning to Nejame's office.

That's funny too.  It must be the first time in the history of this case that Baez didn't want to be on television.  I hope that Judge Perry sets a deadline for the defense to view these records.  They've been fooling around long enough.  They probably don't even know what it is they're looking at.  They need to fish or cut bait.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 02:30:04 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/29/embattled_lawyer_wants_off_casey_case.html
 Embattled Lawyer Wants Off Casey Case
Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:48:24 AM
ORLANDO -- One of Casey Anthony’s lawyers said he wants to be taken off the case.

Todd Macaluso said he is in trouble with the California state bar after he was accused of mishandling some cases.

A motion he filed with the court said his license to practice law in California is inactive, and he is being disciplined by that state’s bar.

Macaluso’s departure from the Casey Anthony case would still leave her with four other lawyers to defend her from charges she killed her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.

The murder trial is not scheduled to start until 2011.


Seems to me that since Casey has been declared indigident, she ought to be assigned ONE public defender and the rest of her 'dream team' kicked to the curb.  IMO.

If they hadn't stated they were working pro bono I am sure that would have happened.  BTW, does anyone remember BOZO actually saying he was going to be working prop bono?  After all he admitted he had collected 80K (and personally I think it was more)  I know they were only asking for costs..........but for the life of me I can't remember him actually saying that..............and for some reason it makes me think he purposely omitted stating that in court.......why, I wonder?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 29, 2010, 02:34:42 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
Computer Savvy Casey?
Posted on April 29th, 2010 by JWG


Thanks---so enjoy JWG's articles!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 29, 2010, 02:40:32 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23242644/detail.html


I missed this.....I knew/read they were there. but somehow I got the impression, they came and left without doing anything. This seems to point out that they were indeed looks at documents and got PO'd when the media found out.  My ??? is did they leave because they were being video taped (I am thinking perhaps Mr. Nejame's office was video taping them in a conference room ensuring they weren't writing anything down or taking pictures with phones etc) and they found out........or was it because the media showed up?


Interesting ...



On Friday, for the first time in eight months, the attorneys visited Nejame's office and were caught on video inside a conference room looking through boxes of documents.

Although the attorney representing Texas EquuSearch said none of the 4,000 volunteers searched the exact spot where Caylee's remains were found, Anthony's defense team wanted to see for themselves. Shortly after Local 6 arrived at Nejame's office, Anthony's attorneys stormed off.

Baez and Mason would not explain why they were finally viewing the records, and it's not known if the attorneys would be returning to Nejame's office.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 02:45:14 PM
So the hearing tomorrow is at 9:30AM..............IMO this is going to set the tone for things to come. I wonder (HOPE) if JP will hear and/or rule on any outstanding motions? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 29, 2010, 03:39:27 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23307543/detail.html
New Judge In Casey Case To Hold Hearing
Casey Anthony Charged With Murder In Death Of Daughter

POSTED: Thursday, April 29, 2010
UPDATED: 2:18 pm EDT April 29, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony on Friday is scheduled to make her first appearance before a new judge in her murder case.

Judge Belvin Perry will hold a case-management hearing at 9:30 a.m. in courtroom 23 at the Orange County Courthouse. The hearing will be streamed on ClickOrlando.com.

Perry took over Anthony's murder case after Orange County Circuit Judge Stan Strickland recused himself. Strickland's move followed a defense motion asking that Strickland be disqualified over a friendship with a blogger.

The hearing will be an opportunity for Perry to call all the attorneys together to ensure he has the information he needs to get up to speed on the case.

Anthony, 24, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee Anthony.

Caylee was 2 years old when she was reported missing in July 2008. Her remains were found in December 2008 in a wooded area near the Anthony family's east Orange County home.

Anthony, who has pleaded not guilty, is being held at the Orange County Jail on no bond.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 29, 2010, 03:42:26 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
04/28/2010           Notice of Provision of Supplemental Discovery


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 29, 2010, 03:46:47 PM
http://mhutch.blogspot.com/2010/04/todd-macaluso-casey-anthony-attorney.html
Thursday, April 29, 2010
Todd Macaluso (Casey Anthony Attorney) Must Withdraw?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 29, 2010, 03:59:07 PM
I received a text if anyone has a question for Bill Sheffer regarding recent developments in this case to email by Friday 9AM their question to :

craig.mazer@wftv.com



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 04:38:07 PM
I received a text if anyone has a question for Bill Sheffer regarding recent developments in this case to email by Friday 9AM their question to :

craig.mazer@wftv.com



thanks Turbo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on April 29, 2010, 04:54:21 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2010/04/latest-casey-anthony-news/
Latest Casey Anthony news-2 Hearings



BabyBear,Friday is fast approaching.    ::CowboySmiley::

Hi Trim---Yes, It's fast approaching.  I have to take my dog to the vet tomorrow to get his blood sugar checked, but I'll be back home by 9:00.  I don't know when Judge Strickland ruled that Casey could wear civilian clothes in the court room for these pre-trial hearings, but I hope Judge Perry will put her back in prison clothes until there is a jury selected and present. Actually, she would looke better in prison clothes than those ill-fitting garbs Cindy furnishes. Why does she get special treatment? She's no better than the regular run of murderer, in fact if she killed Caylee with duct tape on her mouth and nose, that especially heinous.  IMO none of the Anthonys deserve special treatment, but they sure get it.  I so hope Judge Perry clamps down on them, especially the gum, water bottle, and Iphone.

Thanks again for all the info you bring.

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

BB, I too hope JP puts her back in jail garb...........I suppose since JS insisted she be there for EVER hearing he was a bit more lenient on the dress code. I hope JP brings a different level of respect for the court.......and that includes the gallery portion ::MonkeyWink::

I'm not sure if he was lenient about the dress code. I think JS thought it's less prejudicial to be in street clothes since it's a high profile case with the cameras zooming all the time, and I guess he was trying to be as fair as he could.

I think Casey wouldn't show up at all if she hadn't been ordered to. You all know how she enjoys napping after breakfast.
I hope they don't think they have a shot in hell with Berry removing the DP. He's more likely to impose it.
They are so incompetent. Between Bozo, Mason and Lyon it's almost like watching the Three Stooges, except they weren't serious.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 29, 2010, 05:37:55 PM
I received a text if anyone has a question for Bill Sheffer regarding recent developments in this case to email by Friday 9AM their question to :

craig.mazer@wftv.com



 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 29, 2010, 05:42:32 PM
So the hearing tomorrow is at 9:30AM..............IMO this is going to set the tone for things to come. I wonder (HOPE) if JP will hear and/or rule on any outstanding motions? 

Hope so.    Wonder where Mr. Apple Cider Vinegar Surprise Bouquet will position himself?     ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 29, 2010, 06:01:30 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/23309998/detail.html
New Judge To Hold First Hearing In Casey Case
Posted: 4:06 pm EDT April 29, 2010Updated: 4:18 pm EDT April 29, 2010
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- The new judge presiding over the Casey Anthony case will hold his first hearing Friday morning.
WATCH LIVE:  Hearing Scheduled For 9:30am
Orange County Chief Judge Belvin Perry scheduled a status hearing for 9:30am to review the case.

WFTV reported last week when Chief Judge Perry took over for Judge Stan Strickland after he recused himself from the case.

Judge Perry has been on the bench in Central Florida for 21 years


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 29, 2010, 06:01:49 PM
So the hearing tomorrow is at 9:30AM..............IMO this is going to set the tone for things to come. I wonder (HOPE) if JP will hear and/or rule on any outstanding motions? 

Hope so.    Wonder where Mr. Apple Cider Vinegar Surprise Bouquet will position himself?     ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Love2Read on April 29, 2010, 06:43:19 PM
I am beginning to think I have LOST days............I do not remember seeing this either.

But IMO it's worth watching again....the DUHfence are so screwed! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlYSUlmxldc

Thanks for that link, Sunny, I had not seen that...and it is priceless!  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on April 29, 2010, 07:20:10 PM
    I am SOOOOO gonna set my clock tomorrow morning.  Anyone for a chorus of:   
ANTICIPATION....AN TI CI PATION.   hehehe     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 29, 2010, 07:22:45 PM
Bringing this over from another site & I don't have a link:

04/29/2010 Motion
to Seal Jail Visiting Log Records

Has anyone seen this or know why it was filed?


(Good evening Monkeys!   ::HelloKitty:: )

cece- You especially need to have a link if you bring something over from another site.   :smt018     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 29, 2010, 07:28:08 PM
Sorry if this is a repeat:

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/casey-anthony-what-to-expect-at-friday-hearing.html/comment-page-1

Casey Anthony: What to expect at Friday hearing? 



Next in the Casey Anthony case: a much-anticipated hearing Friday with the new judge.

“Sources telling WESH2 [that] e-mails and communication between the state and the defense have already picked up significantly since Judge Belvin Perry replaced Judge Stan Strickland,” WESH anchor Martha Sugalski said tonight.

The state and the defense have met once in anticipation of the hearing, WESH’s Bob Kealing reported.

Kealing noted with Perry in charge there is a new emphasis on deadlines, speed, court decorum and avoidance of disparaging personal remarks.

“Certainly we have seen Jose Baez and prosecutor Jeff Ashton mix it up a little bit,” Kealing said. “We suspect those days are now over.”

In a later report, Kealing showed how Perry reacted strictly in sentencing a murderer who refused to cooperate with authorities. “You will never, never walk this Earth again as a free man,” Perry told the young man.

“Attorneys expect Perry to bring that same tough-as-nails, but-fair-to-both-sides attitude to the case against Casey Anthony,” Kealing said.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

WFTV-Channel 9 offered a short reminder about the status hearing at 9:30 a.m. Friday. WFTV promised live coverage on their Web sites.

WESH said it will offer coverage on its Web site and on the air. The station will cut into “Live With Regis and Kelly” and stick with the hearing depending on what unfolds.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on April 29, 2010, 07:45:10 PM
Bringing this over from another site & I don't have a link:

04/29/2010 Motion
to Seal Jail Visiting Log Records

Has anyone seen this or know why it was filed?


(Good evening Monkeys!   ::HelloKitty:: )



Nope, I haven't, but I don't like it. Makes you wonder if the A's are wanting to visit and it's the prelude to a motion to not release their visits.
What are they saying at the other site you got it from?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 29, 2010, 07:53:07 PM
    I am SOOOOO gonna set my clock tomorrow morning.  Anyone for a chorus of:   
ANTICIPATION....AN TI CI PATION.   hehehe     

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 29, 2010, 07:53:17 PM
Bringing this over from another site & I don't have a link:

04/29/2010 Motion
to Seal Jail Visiting Log Records

Has anyone seen this or know why it was filed?


(Good evening Monkeys!   ::HelloKitty:: )



Nope, I haven't, but I don't like it. Makes you wonder if the A's are wanting to visit and it's the prelude to a motion to not release their visits.
What are they saying at the other site you got it from?


I got it from topix & there wasn't a discussion yet, so I brought it here to see if someone could explain it.

I think it came from the county site, but I don't have a link to that.

cece- you should post the link from topix if you got it from there.  Someone else could go look and see if they could find the county site link if need be. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 29, 2010, 07:55:18 PM
Sorry, Curly, I forgot to thank you for your input.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 29, 2010, 08:18:46 PM
Bringing this over from another site & I don't have a link:

04/29/2010 Motion
to Seal Jail Visiting Log Records

Has anyone seen this or know why it was filed?


(Good evening Monkeys!   ::HelloKitty:: )



Nope, I haven't, but I don't like it. Makes you wonder if the A's are wanting to visit and it's the prelude to a motion to not release their visits.
What are they saying at the other site you got it from?


I got it from topix & there wasn't a discussion yet, so I brought it here to see if someone could explain it.

I think it came from the county site, but I don't have a link to that.

cece- if you brought something from topix, you should provide the link.  Someone else could research and find the county site if need be.


 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::  Very interesting.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 29, 2010, 08:23:18 PM
Can they seal the jail visiting log records under the Sunshine Law?   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: klaasend on April 29, 2010, 09:21:42 PM
DON'T FORGET - TOMORROW - 9:30AM - HEARING WITH THE NEW JUDGE (be there or be square  ::MonkeyCool:: )


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 09:27:03 PM
I am beginning to think I have LOST days............I do not remember seeing this either.

But IMO it's worth watching again....the DUHfence are so screwed! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlYSUlmxldc

Thanks for that link, Sunny, I had not seen that...and it is priceless!  ::MonkeyGavel::

you are welcome. Loves


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 09:27:32 PM
    I am SOOOOO gonna set my clock tomorrow morning.  Anyone for a chorus of:   
ANTICIPATION....AN TI CI PATION.   hehehe     

akmom         ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 09:38:07 PM
Bringing this over from another site & I don't have a link:  (Please provide a link when bringing things from other places.)

04/29/2010 Motion
to Seal Jail Visiting Log Records

Has anyone seen this or know why it was filed?


(Good evening Monkeys!   ::HelloKitty:: )

hi cece.............thanks

so they want the visitation logs sealed..ummmmmmmmmmmmm interesting.WHY?

so who is going to be visiting that they do not want made public? 

the A's?......naw
another attorney?..naw
so who.............perhaps a psychiatrist, or a psychologist?  The mitigation specialist has spent a whole lot of time with KC.....but the only psych evaluations that I am aware of are through the court/jail.............so are they changing their DUHfence from the nanny did it to KC did it but she was nuts ::MonkeyWink::

Seriously, I think they are going to claim it was an accident and KC was so afraid of her parents (mitigating circumstances) that everything she did can be explained by her fear which stems from..........abuse, mental and sexual...........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 09:39:27 PM
Bringing this over from another site & I don't have a link:

04/29/2010 Motion
to Seal Jail Visiting Log Records

Has anyone seen this or know why it was filed?


(Good evening Monkeys!   ::HelloKitty:: )



Nope, I haven't, but I don't like it. Makes you wonder if the A's are wanting to visit and it's the prelude to a motion to not release their visits.
What are they saying at the other site you got it from?


I got it from topix & there wasn't a discussion yet, so I brought it here to see if someone could explain it.

I think it came from the county site, but I don't have a link to that.

cece- you should post the link from topix if you got it from there.  Someone else could go look and see if they could find the county site link if need be. 

cece, I checked the clerk's site............it's there


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 09:41:12 PM
Can they seal the jail visiting log records under the Sunshine Law?   

hi Sassy..just a guess, but I think the Judge can seal things...remember JS sealed the autopsy photos


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 09:41:48 PM
DON'T FORGET - TOMORROW - 9:30AM - HEARING WITH THE NEW JUDGE (be there or be square  ::MonkeyCool:: )

I'll be there!! ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2010, 09:45:40 PM
 cece ::MonkeyWink::


04/28/2010           Motion to Withdraw
Filed by Todd Macaluso, Esq.
04/28/2010           Motion
Amended Second; to Preclude Death Procedures for Impermissible Prosecutorial Motives With Exhibits
04/28/2010           Memorandum
Amended; of Law in Support of Second Defense Motion to Preclude Death Procedures for Impermissible Prosecutorial Motives
04/28/2010           Motion
Amended Second; to Preclude Death Procedures for Impermissible Prosecutorial Motives
04/28/2010           Memorandum
of Law in Support of Defendant's Motion for Protective Order With Respect to Penalty Phase Discovery
04/28/2010           Motion
Defendant's; for Protective Order With Respect to Penalty Phase Discovery
04/28/2010           Memorandum
of Law in Support of Defendant's Motion to Declare Florida Statute 921/141 Unconstitutional for Inadequate Appellate Review
04/28/2010           Motion
to Declare Florida Statute 921/141 Unconstitutional for Inadequate Appellate Review
04/28/2010           Memorandum
of Law in Support of Defendant's Motion to Preclude the State's Impermissible, Gender Biased, Request for Imposition of the Death Penalty
04/28/2010           Motion
to Preclude the State's Impermissible, Gender Biased, Request for Imposition of the Death Penalty
04/28/2010           Notice of Provision of Supplemental Discovery
04/29/2010           Motion
to Seal Jail Visiting Log Records

04/30/2010           Case Management Conference  (9:30 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on April 29, 2010, 09:52:06 PM
Sorry, Curly, I forgot to thank you for your input.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Topix gives me a headache! That's one crazy place.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 12:36:11 AM
Good Evening Monkeys ...almost feels like tomorrow will be the first day of school..
Court tomorrow  ::MonkeyCool:: sorry my post became huge.
After reading JWG on Hinky Meter this morning. http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/04/29/computer-savvy-casey/
I went back into google and used Caseyomarie " Casey's account name" ...and I came up with a music site. I am sure that this has been found before. http://www.pandora.com/people/caseyomarie -The songs are not listed, however the band names " She chose" and load dates are available. The Dates are quite significant. Trying to figure out what was going on in Princess Pea's Mind on those dates. What they meant to her ?
June 17, 2008 she uploaded band Sevendust -  song " The Past" same song that she played over and over for Tracy LP's associate in the Ant house. Same song that CA and KC fought over of who loves it more.
http://www.pandora.com/stations/21746b55f9d8cca9706ef6ca6f70f3d79d65bae90eaced8a
June 26, 2008 she uploaded band Arctic Monkeys http://www.pandora.com/stations/b8e9020858f116a602ee612471160e28be65aaf34da7c82c
I checked out some of their songs. I personally do not classify their songs as music - Death Metal awful -they have other songs than Death Metal which to me, lyrics are twisted/gross.
September 9, 2008 she uploaded Gavin DeGraw http://www.pandora.com/stations/c5f2c4cdc109771e6e0d12fcb7f191f8c874869f84047ca8
Gavin's song is famous as the starting song theme of One Tree Hill and is main song of One Tree Hill episode aired on 9/9/08. " I don't want to Be" see below
---------------------------------
June 16, 2008 Per Amy H official statement, Casey spent June 16 thru July 4 with Tony Lazzaro. Tony says Casey stayed with him from June 10 until June 16
June 16, 2008 On this date Casey started corresponding frequently with Mark Hawkins
http://prairiechicken.blogspot.com/2008/10/casey-anthony-timeline-revised-oct-2.html
June 16, 08 - Casey Tony rent movies Blockbuster - no less than 24hrs later
June 17, 08 - Christopher Stutz
Casey’s ex-boyfriend ( her creating a alibi with an innocent person from her past ?)
Began dating Casey in March or April 2007, and throughout that summer. Said Casey told him she worked at the Sports Authority at the time. Told investigators their relationship was long-distance and did not work out for long. Saw Casey a few times in May and June 2008, and on June 17, she came to his house, driving a dark-colored Jeep Cherokee. Casey told him she was distressed because her parents were getting divorced, and that her father had cheated on her mother. Said Casey talked about her and Caylee getting house. Said he saw a girl who looked like Casey jogging down Chickasaw Trail around 9:30 a.m. July 15, 2008. He texted Casey and asked if she was running down Chickasaw, but she replied, "no," and that was the end of it. Said he got a text message July 16 about Caylee being missing for 32 days.
June 17, 2008 at 3:15pm Casey Anthony wrote on Facebook to Amy: cheer up me lady! i love you and can’t wait to finally get you moved in.
June 17, 2008 Manager of Sawgrass Apartments. Provided LE Investigators with card completed by a Zenaida Gonzales who had enquired about leasing and apartment on . Could not identify Caylee from pictures supplied by LE Investigators.
--
June 26, 2008 (slide show of her icons: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2603782/casey_anthony_photobucket_pics_and_favorite_saved_icons/
Casey uploads and deletes photos of Skulls in her photo bucket account http://news.lalate.com/category/casey-anthony/page/2/   ( which goes right along with the death metal music of Arctic Monkeys)
June 26, 2008 - Casey is posting on Myspace trying to get ppl to come to Fusian for Fun/Drinks/Frolic: http://comment.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewComments&friendID=46582002&page=2&state=1189!50!1!11042789!9548352
June 26,2008 Casey Anthony wrote, "I need a freaking vacation." text to AH
June 27, 2008 documents show that Casey Anthony sent a cell phone text message to her friend (Amy Huizenga) that reads, "There was definitely part of a dead animal plastered to the frame of my car."
--
September 9, 2008 - Hostility is brewing at Ant House - Protesters are at house from sun up to sundown. Casey is tucked away watching through the curtains. George allegedly threatens protester - police are called.  http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17426607/detail.html
Same day 9/9/08 woman takes Anthony's Trash bag from yard: http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17429343/detail.html.
9/9/08 - One Tree Hill airs: "One Million Billionth of a Millisecond on a Sunday Morning" - Key song played during episode is Gavin " I don't want to Be"
Quote from episode 9/9/08: James Lucas Scott: And they thought the *last* nanny was crazy.
Imdb One Tree Hill: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1263997/quotes

She certainly was very busy on the dates of June 16,17,18 2008. Which all are tied together with one common theme: " Moving On, and trying to find someone to latch onto to start her new life"  I left out several points of events within the dates. The events I did add were displaying her character - now that we have had a birds eye view from her letters.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 01:35:24 AM
Looking at the post of filings for the case - Request for Imposition of the Death Penalty

Written 4/27/10 - by Terry Lenamon * was once Lee Anthony's counsel - CA/GA's at one time, I cant recall.
http://www.deathpenaltyblog.com/
 
ABA Will Study Missouri's Death Penalty Process
Posted on April 27, 2010 by Terry Lenamon

The American Bar Association has announced it will be studying how the state of Missouri implements capital punishment - and the study should be pretty thorough.  It's expected that the ABA Committee will delve into DNA evidence issues, indigent defense services, and the like.
The ABA Death Penalty Moratorium Implementation Project
In past years, the ABA has studied how the death penalty is administered in Alabama, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Tennessee.   It has done so through its Death Penalty Moratorium Implementation  - Assessment of Capital Jurisdictions Project (read through the Project's FAQs for details).

The ABA is far from neutral in the death penalty controversy.  The American Bar Association is opposed to capital punishment -- and its walked the talk with its Death Penalty Moratorium Implementation Project, "working to obtain a national moratorium on executions."
The ABA's Second Round of State Death Penalty Assessments: Kentucky and Missouri
After completing assessments of the first round of states (listed above), the ABA has determined that its work was so successful, they're gonna go for round two.  Missouri is part of this second round.  So is Kentucky.
To read a summary of their findings in the first round, you can read the ABA Summary online, where it's provided for free in a .pdf format.  Key language from an indigent defense perspective:
    Effective capital case representation requires substantial specialized training and experience in the complex laws and procedures that govern a capital case, as well as full and fair compensation to the lawyers who undertake capital cases and resources for investigators and experts. States must address counsel representation issues in a way that will ensure that all capital defendants receive effective representation at all stages of their cases. After examining eight states, the themes that emerged include:
    • Many states are failing to provide a statewide indigent capital defense system, providing services instead on a county-by-county basis;
         • The judiciary remains primarily responsible for appointing defense counsel;
         • Some states are failing to provide for the appointment of counsel in post-conviction proceedings and all states are failing to provide for the appointment of counsel in clemency proceedings;
         • Capital indigent defense systems, whether statewide or county-by-county, generally are significantly underfunded;
         • Many states are failing to provide for the appointment of two lawyers at all stages of a capital case, nor are they guaranteeing access to investigators and mitigation specialists;
         • Many states are requiring only minimal training and experience for attorneys handling death penalty cases; and

       • The compensation paid to appointed capital defense attorneys is often woefully inadequate, dipping to well under $50 per hour in some cases.
--
** Baez and his bailing out *now ? he is obviously not a Capital Defense Atty.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 01:56:38 AM
Another post on Terry Lenamon's law site -
http://www.deathpenaltyblog.com/

The sordid saga of Texas trial judge Verna Sue Holland and state prosecutor Thomas S. O'Connell, Jr. carrying on a sexual affair during the capital murder trial of Charles Dean Hood continues, and the latest chapter doesn't tell a happy tale.

Charles Dean Hood's Conviction While the Judge and DA Were Having a Love Affair is a Big Deal. In a somewhat bizarre twist, Charles Dean Hood has had help from the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals - the highest criminal court in the State of Texas.  A court where both Verna Sue Holland and the infamous Sharon Keller have both sat as justices (Keller's still there, for now, as Chief Justice; for more on Keller, search for her name here on the blog.  It's quite a story in its own right.)

How did this court help?  Mr. Hood has been granted another sentencing trial - where it is hoped he will escape his current death penalty sentence. However, it is questionable whether or not Mr. Hood will have a trial on guilt or innocence in front of a judge that isn't ... well... "involved" with the prosecutor.
--
Wondering if Baez and Slore were ever romantically involved  ::MonkeyEek::
Or if he " Doesn't come through with his laundry list of Promises that he has ~ engraved into Casey's Head as You have no worries" If she would pull that card. That when she was at his office all those hours~ they were playing hide the dead squirrel.
Makes you wonder why all these new filings have been made "just now" before Judge Perry tomorrow. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 30, 2010, 02:44:30 AM
Bringing this over from another site & I don't have a link:

04/29/2010 Motion
to Seal Jail Visiting Log Records

Has anyone seen this or know why it was filed?


(Good evening Monkeys!   ::HelloKitty:: )



Nope, I haven't, but I don't like it. Makes you wonder if the A's are wanting to visit and it's the prelude to a motion to not release their visits.
What are they saying at the other site you got it from?


I got it from topix & there wasn't a discussion yet, so I brought it here to see if someone could explain it.

I think it came from the county site, but I don't have a link to that.

cece- you should post the link from topix if you got it from there.  Someone else could go look and see if they could find the county site link if need be. 

Here's the link... I grabbed it and ran like a scared lil girl.  Topix does that to me.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Betsy in FL
#3899
New motion filed today...
4/29/2010
Motion to Seal Jail Visiting Log Records

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/orlando-fl/T8VPKV4F9HDBTM8PC/p186 (http://www.topix.com/forum/city/orlando-fl/T8VPKV4F9HDBTM8PC/p186)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 30, 2010, 03:46:45 AM
Can they seal the jail visiting log records under the Sunshine Law?   

hi Sassy..just a guess, but I think the Judge can seal things...remember JS sealed the autopsy photos

Generally, no.   The jail records are public, just as the visits and phone calls can be released.   Each inmate & visitors are also given instructions in advance of visits that their calls will be monitored, visits recorded & be logged in when visiting.  The Anthonys lost a battle to have private visits.  Very rarely will a judge seal what is standard procedure for the jail minus pretty much only medical records, attorney/client communications a given.   The defense already took one stab requesting no video  be taken of their visits with their client (gee, I wonder why   :smt105), even expressing concerns about being overheard (no audio) and their motion was denied.    They would have to have a very compelling reason as to why.  IMHO, I dont see that any would be sufficient enough to rule in their favor.   I also do not see any reason why now they need to conceal their attorney/client visits, we already know who is representing her & that they have had a mitigation specialist in to see her.  The only thing I can think of that they now may be wanting to conceal is their own psychiatrists/psychologists, etc. that they may ask to evaluate her but the content of those visits would in fact probably be sealed as medical record unless Casey herself granted permission to her defense team to discuss it.   In my view, its way too late in the game for that happy horsesnit attempt to take place & that should have been done with the ample time she was spending her days at her attorneys office while on bond with the privacy being at their disposal, ridiculous & unseemly as it was.  What are they going to waste the court's time with next, a motion to seal her commissary records including her freaks r us donators?

The autopsy photos being sealed is a totally separate issue.   Those are often sealed especially involving a minor child.   Additionally, if memory serves Conman argued on behalf of the Anthonys that they not be released.   

Also, a page or so back it was asked if Judge Strickland would rule on any of the motions that were pending prior to Chief Justice Belvin Perry taking over the case, the answer is no.

As you all can tell, Im experiencing a sleepness night.   I'll be with you all in spirit as you watch the hearing live this morning.   I have to head out in a few hours back to Alabama for my MIL's funeral but hopefully after I settle in back home tomorrow a link to watch the hearing will be already posted.    Be sure to screencap plenty of pictures, a few shocked & angry faces should be of plenty!  I have faith that CHBP is going to set the tone & put the feet to the fire.     ::MonkeyGavel:: Justice for Caylee  ::MonkeyAngel::   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 30, 2010, 04:09:14 AM
Deenie, her mindset was already moving on, I agree.   The evil narcissistic sociopath that she is exhibited many signs that she thought she was free but at the same time she left way too many traces of what she did...she doesnt know this but she's her own worse nightmare.  PS, I'm carrying on with the song you left me & its helping me get thru a very difficult time, thank you.

One little thing I saw in your analytical post (which I enjoyed), the Sawgrass reference that is dated June 17th, that had to be July 17th.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: ddex on April 30, 2010, 04:20:43 AM
Konnichiwa to all from Japan....I am visiting my daughter and new grandbaby. For those reasons I had not been online at all in the last week and was totally shocked from all that has happened involving this case.  All the "stupid" and frustration we have had to endure ,I hope is about to change, with a new judge. Finally, maybe, all participents will behave in court.  I will be watching, from the other side of the world, literally.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 05:55:02 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/30/casey_faces_new_judge.html
 Casey Faces New Judge Today
Friday, April 30, 2010 5:09:01 AM
Reported by Stephanie Coueignoux

ORLANDO -- Casey Anthony's defense team is preparing to go before a new judge for the first time Friday.

Some criminal defense experts said this could make it more difficult for Anthony’s defense team because Chief Judge Belvin Perry is known for being a no-nonsense guy.

Friday's scheduling hearing is a merely a formality, but more importantly, this will be Perry's first opportunity to set the tone for the rest of the case.

"Judge Perry expects you to get to the point and he values his time and he takes it personally when you waste his time," said Richard Hornsby, a criminal defense attorney.

The defense asked Orange County Judge Stan Strickland to remove himself from the case on April 16, which he did three days later.

It was a gamble that some legal experts said did not pay off.

"You went from the most defense friendly judge, or what most defense attorney's would want -- Judge Strickland -- to the one judge most prosecutors want because they have a case. They have their evidence and they know they're in the right most of the time," Hornsby said.

Hornsby said Perry is a by-the-book judge, but that guarantees nothing for the defense.

"You can have a very fair judge but if you lose the case, you have to be prepared to pay the ultimate penalty -- whether it's the maximum sentence or in Casey Anthony's case, the death penalty," Hornsby said.

The hearing is set to get under way at 9:30 a.m.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 05:57:02 AM
04/29/2010           Motion
to Seal Jail Visiting Log Records
04/30/2010           Case Management Conference  (9:30 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 06:01:49 AM
Video:Casey Anthony's New Judge(Interview With Richard Hornsby)
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=0429CaseyOS_042920101023&cat=CAC&title=Casey%E2%80%99s


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 06:25:51 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
A Million Times
Posted on April 30th, 2010 by JWG



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 30, 2010, 08:02:41 AM
Good morning, Monkeys!  I'm finally back from Louisiana, (music festival,) just in time for the intro to the new regime of Judge Perry.  As much as I respected the affable Judge Strickland, I'm hoping that Judge P is stricter and moves this case along.  I keep imagining him as a Louis Gosset type in "Officer and a Gentleman", serving up some Boot Camp discipline to the defense.   At any rate, I'll be in and out all day, choosing cabinets for our new house, and getting ready for two showings of our current one.  I've missed all the monkeys and am so thankful for all the updates and comments.
Quick O/T...So sorry for your losses, Capp and Loca.  My prayers are with you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 08:09:45 AM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/casey-anthony-faces-new-judge.html
WDBO Local News      
Casey Anthony faces new judge
By
Marva Hinton
@ April 30, 2010 7:19 AM Permalink | Comments (0)
Casey Anthony will meet her new judge for the first time Friday.
Chief Judge Belvin Perry is taking over the trial after Judge Stan Strickland stepped down.

The purpose of today's hearing is to discuss deadlines for matters such as depositions and pre-trial hearings, and WDBO legal analyst Mark Nejame says Perry will also want to make a few things clear to the attorneys.

"I think the judge will assert himself and clearly establish whose courtroom it is," said Nejame. "I think he'll run a very tight, orderly, no-nonsense conference."

But Nejame praises both Strickland and Perry. He says they just have different styles. He argues that Strickland probably gave the defense a little more leeway to lessen their chances of being able to appeal.

The chief judge has the power to move up the accused child killer's trial date which was set for May 9, 2011 by Strickland, but Nejame says Perry probably won't take that step.

"I think he will honor the existing date but will likely let them know that he believes that that is more than enough time, and they better be ready," said Nejame. "Judge Perry will be a bit more exacting and demanding in holding people to schedules."

Nejame says Perry will also be strict when it comes to handling any bad behavior by attorneys in the courtroom.

"He will simply lay people out," said Nejame. "He'll likely give people a chance to correct their behavior, and then he won't tolerate it again. He will not be shy to impose sanctions."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 08:10:46 AM
http://www.abc-7.com/Global/story.asp?S=12402997
Secondary Casey Anthony attorney leaves case

Associated Press - April 30, 2010 6:54 AM ET

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) - 1 of Casey Anthony's attorneys has removed himself from her case after getting in trouble with the California Bar.

Todd Mancuso said in a motion this week he was on "involuntary inactive status."

Mancuso told the defense team for the mother accused of killing 2-year-old Caylee Anthony in February he had entered an alternative discipline program.

Anthony is still being represented by Kissimmee-based attorney Jose Baez, prominent Orlando lawyer Cheney Mason and two other out-of-state attorneys.

The trial is scheduled to start in May 2011.

Mancuso was accused of mishandling several trust accounts, misappropriating $145,000 of client funds and misusing $61,000. He blamed staff members for the mistakes, saying he was troubled and distracted at the time by his brother's death.

Information from: Orlando Sentinel, http://www.orlandosentinel.com


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 30, 2010, 08:11:46 AM

I'm ready for the hearing....
(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff95/shamlin1/drunkmonkey.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on April 30, 2010, 08:25:38 AM
popcorn...........................check
coffee.............................check
cell turned off...................check
answering machine on.........check
kleenex for laughter tears....check

I'm so ready for 9:30.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 08:31:46 AM
Good morning, Monkeys!  I'm finally back from Louisiana, (music festival,) just in time for the intro to the new regime of Judge Perry.  As much as I respected the affable Judge Strickland, I'm hoping that Judge P is stricter and moves this case along.  I keep imagining him as a Louis Gosset type in "Officer and a Gentleman", serving up some Boot Camp discipline to the defense.   At any rate, I'll be in and out all day, choosing cabinets for our new house, and getting ready for two showings of our current one.  I've missed all the monkeys and am so thankful for all the updates and comments.
Quick O/T...So sorry for your losses, Capp and Loca.  My prayers are with you.
Monka & All Good Morning ... I am awake... ::MonkeyWink:: not yet. Coffee is coming.
I hope Judge Perry is too like Mr. Gosset ...and puts Baez in his place  :smt117
I love your Art  :smt049 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 08:38:07 AM
Ready.    ::MonkeyGavel::
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/scaredmonkeys/kittycorn.gif)


(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/scaredmonkeys/valium-kitty3.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 08:38:18 AM
Ms. Trimm  ::dogwag:: Do you have the links for Court today ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 08:44:47 AM
Ms. Trimm  ::dogwag:: Do you have the links for Court today ?

Hey Deenie.   ::HelloKitty::
I know WFTV will be carrying it.   http://www.wftv.com/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 08:45:14 AM
Ms. Trimm  ::dogwag:: Do you have the links for Court today ? self edit
I found it.. they are going to live streaming from Orlando Sentinel, I thought I read it was only going to be on the site In Sessions? Which I am not familiar with.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-perry-hearing-20100430,0,6002860.story 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 30, 2010, 08:45:30 AM
Good morning, Monkeys!  I'm finally back from Louisiana, (music festival,) just in time for the intro to the new regime of Judge Perry.  As much as I respected the affable Judge Strickland, I'm hoping that Judge P is stricter and moves this case along.  I keep imagining him as a Louis Gosset type in "Officer and a Gentleman", serving up some Boot Camp discipline to the defense.   At any rate, I'll be in and out all day, choosing cabinets for our new house, and getting ready for two showings of our current one.  I've missed all the monkeys and am so thankful for all the updates and comments.
Quick O/T...So sorry for your losses, Capp and Loca.  My prayers are with you.
Monka & All Good Morning ... I am awake... ::MonkeyWink:: not yet. Coffee is coming.
I hope Judge Perry is too like Mr. Gosset ...and puts Baez in his place  :smt117
I love your Art  :smt049 


Thanks, Deenie.  The picture is by Linda Berman of the (aptly named) Drunk Monkey Studio.  She is a hoot and a holler. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 30, 2010, 08:46:05 AM
Ready.    ::MonkeyGavel::
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/scaredmonkeys/kittycorn.gif)


(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/scaredmonkeys/valium-kitty3.gif)
Hey, Trimm.  You are so prepared!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: ckrdpast on April 30, 2010, 08:46:31 AM
Other Orlando news outlets


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/
http://www.clickorlando.com/index.html
http://www.cfnews13.com/


as soon as it starts i will post a media player link


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 30, 2010, 08:46:39 AM
popcorn...........................check
coffee.............................check
cell turned off...................check
answering machine on.........check
kleenex for laughter tears....check

I'm so ready for 9:30.
Hey, KittyMom, I don't know if we've met, but I love your list!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 30, 2010, 08:47:31 AM
Other Orlando news outlets


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/
http://www.clickorlando.com/index.html
http://www.cfnews13.com/


as soon as it starts i will post a media player link
Thanks, Chkrd!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 08:50:58 AM
Watch Hearing
FOX35  http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live
WFTV   http://www.wftv.com/news/23309998/detail.html
Orlando Sentinel  http://www.orlandosentinel.com/
Click Orlando  http://www.clickorlando.com/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 08:55:15 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/23310853/detail.html
Friday Casey Hearing Will Be 1st With New Judge
Status Hearing Slated For 9:30 A.M.
POSTED: 5:17 pm EDT April 29, 2010
UPDATED: 6:19 am EDT April 30, 2010
<snipped>
When Perry takes the bench on Friday at 9:30 a.m., he has told both sides to be prepared to discuss the following:
•Deadline for depositions of all ordinary and expert witnesses.
•Deadline for future motions both pending and unresolved.
•Pretrial and trial dates.

Sources in the case said the number of emails between the two sides has picked up, and they've already met once in anticipation of Friday's hearing.

Perry also told lawyers to re-familiarize themselves with his 15 point courtroom decorum policy, address remarks to the judge and not each other, and avoid disparaging personal remarks or acrimony towards opposing counsel. The last point is aimed clearly at Jose Baez and prosecutor Jeff Ashton, who have been known to mix it up a little in previous hearings.
Video: Casey Hearing Will Be 1st With New Judge 1:46  http://www.wesh.com/video/23310217/index.html
Video: Anthony Defense Moves To Challenge Death Penalty   http://www.wesh.com/video/23277452/index.html


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Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 08:58:02 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-perry-hearing-20100430,0,6002860.story
Casey Anthony to face new judge today
Casey Anthony goes before Chief Judge Belvin Perry Jr. at 9:30 a.m. Check back for live video.
 By Amy L. Edwards, Orlando Sentinel

6:54 a.m. EDT, April 30, 2010
 os-casey-anthony-perry-hearing-20100430

Casey Anthony, her team of lawyers — and the public — may get a sense today of what the future of her first-degree murder case will look like as it continues to unfold in Orange County.

At 9:30 a.m., Anthony and company will meet for the first time before Chief Judge Belvin Perry, who took over the proceedings last week after Judge Stan Strickland granted a defense motion and recused himself from the case.

Perry, who is well-acquainted with high-profile cases such as Anthony's, set a case-management hearing within days of assuming control of the capital proceedings.

Among the items he wants to discuss with defense attorneys and state prosecutors today: pending motions, pre-trial and trial dates, deadlines for future motions, and deadlines for when evidence will be released as part of the discovery process.

It's possible that the tenor of Anthony's case will change dramatically.

Perry has a reputation as being no-nonsense with little patience for bickering attorneys.

Strickland's courtrooms are more laid-back, and he calmly tolerated the lawyers' squabbles.

Earlier this month, Anthony's defense team filed a motion asking that Strickland remove himself from the case because of what they called a "personal relationship" the judge developed with a blogger who had been critical of their client.

Anthony's lawyers stated their client wouldn't get a fair trial because of that relationship.

Strickland granted their request, and in doing so, left more than a few piercing words for the defense team in his recusal order.
Strickland handled Anthony's case since she was first arrested in July 2008. Anthony, 24, is accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter Caylee Marie in the summer of that year.

Caylee's remains were found in December 2008, months after the toddler's family reported her missing.

Check back for updates.

Amy L. Edwards can be reached at aledwards@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5735.


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Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 09:00:08 AM
Ms. Trimm  ::dogwag:: Do you have the links for Court today ?

Hey Deenie.   ::HelloKitty::
I know WFTV will be carrying it.   http://www.wftv.com/index.html
Thank You, the more sites the better ..just in case.

Did you see this? its the pdf of filing about Casey's Gender Status .......
www.cfnews13.com/.../Motion%20to%20Preclude%20the%20State's%20Impermissible%20Gender...

above is the view link. This the pdf link: http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Motion%20to%20Preclude%20the%20State%27s%20Impermissible%20Gender%20Biased%20Request%20for%20Imposition%20of%20the%20Death%20Penalty.pdf

I read it last night, and I used the quick view rather than the pdf.  Now that I opened it as pdf - what I thought was correct. Andrea Lyon wrote these filings. Her signature is on all the papers.  Nothing is dated though. Just says month of April ........ 2010. It is written to Judge Strickland. Pages 15, 16, They footnote a long the way Nancy Grace, Dr. Lillian Glass, Bloggers, sites alike for " premeditated Trashing" of Miss Anthony's Gender and Character. They even mention Tony R - for his remark that she was " loose" and Yuri Melich for asking Tony R if he was aware of Casey having  STD's..........*page 8

I think she is an embarrassment to her gender and she trashed her own character.   

 ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 09:05:10 AM
Konnichiwa to all from Japan....I am visiting my daughter and new grandbaby. For those reasons I had not been online at all in the last week and was totally shocked from all that has happened involving this case.  All the "stupid" and frustration we have had to endure ,I hope is about to change, with a new judge. Finally, maybe, all participents will behave in court.  I will be watching, from the other side of the world, literally.

Hi ddex, congratulations on your new grandchild! ::monkeywine2::


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Post by: ckrdpast on April 30, 2010, 09:05:34 AM
cnn stream    video is on    audio is not

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream1


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Post by: darla on April 30, 2010, 09:05:55 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!


HAPPY HAPPY court day! I hope we all get to see Bozo get a good spanking this morning. That is the only reason I am up at this ungodly hour!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 09:07:50 AM
Video:Casey Anthony's New Judge(Interview With Richard Hornsby)
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=0429CaseyOS_042920101023&cat=CAC&title=Casey%E2%80%99s

Good Morning trim and thanks!


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Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 09:08:23 AM
DON'T FORGET - TOMORROW - 9:30AM - HEARING WITH THE NEW JUDGE (be there or be square  ::MonkeyCool:: )

LOL!


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Post by: ckrdpast on April 30, 2010, 09:08:51 AM
media player link

http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:20877.asx


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 09:09:23 AM
cnn stream    video is on    audio is not

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream1
Thank You .......Wow  ::MonkeyDance:: the court room sure looks BIGGER Than LIFE  ::MonkeyGavel::

Justice for Caylee  ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: klaasend on April 30, 2010, 09:11:52 AM
Also here:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live


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Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 09:12:05 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
A Million Times
Posted on April 30th, 2010 by JWG

thanks again trim...........

"So, as much as I thought “naw…Casey is way to stupid and lazy to produce home-made chloroform“, the report and emails are pretty much telling us “Yeah, we think she actually did.”

JWG


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Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 09:13:15 AM
Good morning, Monkeys!  I'm finally back from Louisiana, (music festival,) just in time for the intro to the new regime of Judge Perry.  As much as I respected the affable Judge Strickland, I'm hoping that Judge P is stricter and moves this case along.  I keep imagining him as a Louis Gosset type in "Officer and a Gentleman", serving up some Boot Camp discipline to the defense.   At any rate, I'll be in and out all day, choosing cabinets for our new house, and getting ready for two showings of our current one.  I've missed all the monkeys and am so thankful for all the updates and comments.
Quick O/T...So sorry for your losses, Capp and Loca.  My prayers are with you.

Welcome home monka!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 09:17:10 AM
Also here:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live
One more to add - nothing yet on the screen - US Live Stream
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-casey-anthony-hearing-video,0,3860178.htmlstory


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Post by: can on April 30, 2010, 09:18:29 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!


HAPPY HAPPY court day! I hope we all get to see Bozo get a good spanking this morning. That is the only reason I am up at this ungodly hour!

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
- That would be good to see!   ::MonkeyJnBox::


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 09:20:23 AM
Thanks for the links, I'm ready to go  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 09:20:25 AM
Also here:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live
One more to add - nothing yet on the screen - US Live Stream
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-casey-anthony-hearing-video,0,3860178.htmlstory

Link of Orlando sentinel above - Is LIVE sound is ON


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 09:21:22 AM
Bringing this over from another site & I don't have a link:

04/29/2010 Motion
to Seal Jail Visiting Log Records

Has anyone seen this or know why it was filed?


(Good evening Monkeys!   ::HelloKitty:: )



Nope, I haven't, but I don't like it. Makes you wonder if the A's are wanting to visit and it's the prelude to a motion to not release their visits.
What are they saying at the other site you got it from?


I got it from topix & there wasn't a discussion yet, so I brought it here to see if someone could explain it.

I think it came from the county site, but I don't have a link to that.

cece- you should post the link from topix if you got it from there.  Someone else could go look and see if they could find the county site link if need be. 

Here's the link... I grabbed it and ran like a scared lil girl.  Topix does that to me.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Betsy in FL
#3899
New motion filed today...
4/29/2010
Motion to Seal Jail Visiting Log Records

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/orlando-fl/T8VPKV4F9HDBTM8PC/p186 (http://www.topix.com/forum/city/orlando-fl/T8VPKV4F9HDBTM8PC/p186)


Thank you Wyks.  And thank you Sunny for posting it from the clerk site. 

I'm so sorry that I caused a problem with it last night.

Good morning Monkeys & I hope everyone is well & ready to meet the new Judge.   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 09:21:26 AM

I'm ready for the hearing....
(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff95/shamlin1/drunkmonkey.jpg)


 ::MonkeyHaHa::   Fruit juice in the morning is good.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 09:22:22 AM
Marinade Dave is in Court Front and Center taking his Seat ...........


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Post by: klaasend on April 30, 2010, 09:23:19 AM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/moderator%20pics/thpopcorn-1.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on April 30, 2010, 09:23:49 AM
Conway and some woman yucking it up  I can never figure out how they all can be so callous.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: can on April 30, 2010, 09:24:15 AM
Other Orlando news outlets


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/
http://www.clickorlando.com/index.html
http://www.cfnews13.com/


as soon as it starts i will post a media player link

Thank you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 09:24:16 AM
Marinade Dave is in Court Front and Center taking his Seat ...........
So is Baez with his dumb smirk.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 09:26:07 AM
Doesn't George look lovely in bright green?  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 09:26:11 AM
The sound quality is fantastic.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: tupelohoney on April 30, 2010, 09:26:28 AM
 ::HelloKitty::  Hello Monkeys !  I made it just in time....my speakers were dead this am, but I raced to WalMart and I'm all set to hear this new judge lay down the law the the defense.   Sure hope Ashton can keep his smirks to himself.....don't need any trouble for the state. lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on April 30, 2010, 09:26:59 AM
UUUUmmmm, is there a cleavage rule..Cin Cins friend needs one


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 09:27:16 AM
::HelloKitty::  Hello Monkeys !  I made it just in time....my speakers were dead this am, but I raced to WalMart and I'm all set to hear this new judge lay down the law the the defense.   Sure hope Ashton can keep his smirks to himself.....don't need any trouble for the state. lol
Way to go  ::MonkeyBike::  I hope Ashton can control himself also.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: ddex on April 30, 2010, 09:27:44 AM
Konnichiwa to all from Japan....I am visiting my daughter and new grandbaby. For those reasons I had not been online at all in the last week and was totally shocked from all that has happened involving this case.  All the "stupid" and frustration we have had to endure ,I hope is about to change, with a new judge. Finally, maybe, all participents will behave in court.  I will be watching, from the other side of the world, literally.

Hi ddex, congratulations on your new grandchild! ::monkeywine2::
Thank you...He is a keeper.   And may I add what a joy it is to watch my daughter be a mom for the first time.  Until now she was not the "nurturing" type. Something in nature just natureally kicks in, unless you are a sociopath, I guess. How did CA not have a clue that her daughter was missing the protective nurturing instints that mom's aquire???
I am struggling to stay awake for the hearing, it will be 11;30pm here when it starts.


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Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 09:28:09 AM
Better Camera Action - wider from different angle  - someone has that Cough gag " throat clearing" gig going on ... :gaah: ...

http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:20877.asx


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: tupelohoney on April 30, 2010, 09:28:17 AM
Awwww.....Casey pretty in Pink....Not! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 09:28:17 AM
Konnichiwa to all from Japan....I am visiting my daughter and new grandbaby. For those reasons I had not been online at all in the last week and was totally shocked from all that has happened involving this case.  All the "stupid" and frustration we have had to endure ,I hope is about to change, with a new judge. Finally, maybe, all participents will behave in court.  I will be watching, from the other side of the world, literally.

Hi ddex, congratulations on your new grandchild! ::monkeywine2::
Thank you...He is a keeper.   And may I add what a joy it is to watch my daughter be a mom for the first time.  Until now she was not the "nurturing" type. Something in nature just natureally kicks in, unless you are a sociopath, I guess. How did CA not have a clue that her daughter was missing the protective nurturing instints that mom's aquire???
I am struggling to stay awake for the hearing, it will be 11;30pm here when it starts.
Wonderful  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 30, 2010, 09:28:47 AM
Watch Hearing
FOX35  http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live
WFTV   http://www.wftv.com/news/23309998/detail.html
Orlando Sentinel  http://www.orlandosentinel.com/
Click Orlando  http://www.clickorlando.com/index.html

Thanks!   ::monkeywine2::
Good morning everyone!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 09:29:11 AM
I wish I was a lip reader.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 09:29:16 AM
Awwww.....Casey pretty in Pink....Not! 
She looks a little scared this morning


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on April 30, 2010, 09:30:00 AM
UUUUmmmm, is there a cleavage rule..Cin Cins friend needs one



I was thinking the same thing akmom, she is about to fall out of her shirt and she can't seem to get her behind seated.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 09:30:07 AM
::HelloKitty::  Hello Monkeys !  I made it just in time....my speakers were dead this am, but I raced to WalMart and I'm all set to hear this new judge lay down the law the the defense.   Sure hope Ashton can keep his smirks to himself.....don't need any trouble for the state. lol

Hey Tupelo.   ::HelloKitty::   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: tupelohoney on April 30, 2010, 09:30:27 AM
Just curious....anyone seen Marinade Dave in the courtroom?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on April 30, 2010, 09:31:04 AM
And Marinadebrain is really friendly with the Ant's


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 30, 2010, 09:31:07 AM
Here come da' Judge  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on April 30, 2010, 09:31:30 AM
BOZO are you tweeting


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: klaasend on April 30, 2010, 09:32:14 AM
NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/04/30/cayleecasey-anthony-case-all-rise-judge-perry-takes-the-stand/

Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: All Rise- Judge Perry Takes The Stand


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 30, 2010, 09:32:24 AM
Just curious....anyone seen Marinade Dave in the courtroom?

 ::HelloKitty::   He was on In Sessions this morning.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: tupelohoney on April 30, 2010, 09:32:51 AM
::HelloKitty::  Hello Monkeys !  I made it just in time....my speakers were dead this am, but I raced to WalMart and I'm all set to hear this new judge lay down the law the the defense.   Sure hope Ashton can keep his smirks to himself.....don't need any trouble for the state. lol

Hey Tupelo.   ::HelloKitty::   ::MonkeyGavel::

Hey Trimm !   This judge is prompt and not messing around....can't wait to hear everything he has to say.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: tupelohoney on April 30, 2010, 09:34:08 AM
Just curious....anyone seen Marinade Dave in the courtroom?

 ::HelloKitty::   He was on In Sessions this morning.   

Really ??  I'll have to look for that....thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 09:35:25 AM
::HelloKitty::  Hello Monkeys !  I made it just in time....my speakers were dead this am, but I raced to WalMart and I'm all set to hear this new judge lay down the law the the defense.   Sure hope Ashton can keep his smirks to himself.....don't need any trouble for the state. lol

 ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 30, 2010, 09:35:52 AM
Just curious....anyone seen Marinade Dave in the courtroom?

 ::HelloKitty::   He was on In Sessions this morning.   

Really ??  I'll have to look for that....thanks!

Yep - he's a big star now.   ::MonkeyRoll::
He didn't really say much - but he did say he was going to be more critical of the duhfense now.    ::MonkeyHaHa::


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Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 09:39:03 AM
The Duhfense  Team ~ doesn't look as cocky as they have in the past ....they all look skeered... Notice Judge Perry's Chair is moving ..he looks like he is going to blast off.
He has been ready for this !

 ::MonkeyDance::



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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 09:39:43 AM
Isn't it amazing, Baez is actually sounding rather intelligent today  ::MonkeyEek::  this judge must be really scaring them all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 30, 2010, 09:40:37 AM
The Duhfense  Team ~ doesn't look as cocky as they have in the past ....they all look skeered... Notice Judge Perry's Chair is moving ..he looks like he is going to blast off.
He has been ready for this !

 ::MonkeyDance::



Bozo appears to be sucking up.    ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on April 30, 2010, 09:41:49 AM
His widdo brain is gonna be so tired after today, he will really need that vacay


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 09:44:09 AM
Maybe Baez's "dumb act" is really a control method.   He still doesn't seem to do his homework though.


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Post by: akmom on April 30, 2010, 09:44:37 AM
WOW Judge wants budgeting hearing, like yesterday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 09:45:25 AM
WOW Judge wants budgeting hearing, like yesterday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am loving this.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 09:46:10 AM
 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Baez is in deep doo doo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 09:46:17 AM
WOW Judge wants budgeting hearing, like yesterday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hhahahaha...what are you doing next Thursday may 6th................I LOVE JP!!

Notice BOZO is saying YOUR HONOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NCMike on April 30, 2010, 09:47:18 AM
 ::MonkeyDevil::  Well, budget hearing is scheduled...... ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on April 30, 2010, 09:47:24 AM
Sounds like budget hearing will be next week, the 6th!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 09:47:44 AM
WOW Judge wants budgeting hearing, like yesterday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hhahahaha...what are you doing next Thursday may 6th................I LOVE JP!!

Notice BOZO is saying YOUR HONOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyGavel::

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

May 6 hearing on budget with Judge Perry.

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 09:48:01 AM
Doesn't George own a suit???????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 09:48:09 AM
so far I haven't seen any cud chewing from sin-cin and georgie boy ::MonkeyDevil::


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Post by: NCMike on April 30, 2010, 09:48:54 AM
I notice Mr. Conman is there and sitting next to the A's.  Must be hell keeping those two in order.  I haven't seen any gum or water from those fools yet.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 09:49:17 AM
WOW Judge wants budgeting hearing, like yesterday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hhahahaha...what are you doing next Thursday may 6th................I LOVE JP!!

Notice BOZO is saying YOUR HONOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyGavel::

I know it----a relief from his : "Judge" ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 09:49:25 AM
so far I haven't seen any cud chewing from sin-cin and georgie boy ::MonkeyDevil::
Everybody is on their best behavior  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 09:49:32 AM
Doesn't George own a suit???????

yep he does...he wore on for his GJ testimony


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 09:49:54 AM
so far I haven't seen any cud chewing from sin-cin and georgie boy ::MonkeyDevil::

CinCin needs her gum---she's not looking to pleased.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 09:50:20 AM
**too**


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on April 30, 2010, 09:50:53 AM
Like the judge, but have to giggle, he is.......antsy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 09:51:00 AM
Doesn't George own a suit???????

yep he does...he wore on for his GJ testimony

He must have rented it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 09:51:28 AM
BOZO is a frigging azzhole...Mr NeJAME..not KNEEJAM you idiot!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 09:52:04 AM
I notice Mr. Conman is there and sitting next to the A's.  Must be hell keeping those two in order.  I haven't seen any gum or water from those fools yet.

hi Mike...yep, on their best behavior


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 09:52:32 AM
Like the judge, but have to giggle, he is.......antsy
Very, his chair is really rocking.


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Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 09:52:49 AM
Baez has no idea how many motions ....lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 09:53:48 AM
so far I haven't seen any cud chewing from sin-cin and georgie boy ::MonkeyDevil::

CinCin needs her gum---she's not looking to pleased.
She is chewing her fingers or her nails........... literally  ::MonkeyDevil:: she has to have something in her mouth .....besides her foot.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 09:55:58 AM
Before this case is over, CinCin is going to blurt something out and cause a scene, IMO.  She just cannot help it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 09:57:19 AM
Not today ...but some point in time during this case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on April 30, 2010, 09:58:16 AM
Morning everyone, sounds like the Judge is going to move this case right along and the defense and prosecution seem to have been scared into cooperating together. All in all a good start  ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NCMike on April 30, 2010, 09:58:38 AM
Sounds like the week of May 10 is going to be busy!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 09:58:39 AM
Someone needs to feed Ms. Tennis.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on April 30, 2010, 09:59:00 AM
Wow all motions to be heard(death and non) on the 10th and 11th


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 30, 2010, 09:59:55 AM
Love this Judge - he is a no nonsense and let's get r done kind of guy.  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 10:00:17 AM
Before this case is over, CinCin is going to blurt something out and cause a scene, IMO.  She just cannot help it.
Casey is really " tuned out" isn't she...she looks as though she is a mannequin. OR she is going to stop breathing ... at any moment ::MonkeyEek::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 10:01:00 AM
WOW...ride um cowboy  ::CowboySmiley:: JP is moving this along.......hearing non death penalty motions on the 10th and 11th..........

State asks for a sequestered jury



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 10:01:12 AM
Before this case is over, CinCin is going to blurt something out and cause a scene, IMO.  She just cannot help it.
Casey is really " tuned out" isn't she...she looks as though she is a mannequin. OR she is going to stop breathing ... at any moment ::MonkeyEek::


I know  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on April 30, 2010, 10:02:42 AM
Before this case is over, CinCin is going to blurt something out and cause a scene, IMO.  She just cannot help it.
Casey is really " tuned out" isn't she...she looks as though she is a mannequin. OR she is going to stop breathing ... at any moment ::MonkeyEek::



That would TOTALLY be okay with me


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on April 30, 2010, 10:02:49 AM
Judge asks if Bozo is objecting to the jury being sequestered. Lol!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 30, 2010, 10:04:04 AM
Casey's eyes are telling this Judge to drop dead ....  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 30, 2010, 10:04:28 AM
Before this case is over, CinCin is going to blurt something out and cause a scene, IMO.  She just cannot help it.
Casey is really " tuned out" isn't she...she looks as though she is a mannequin. OR she is going to stop breathing ... at any moment ::MonkeyEek::


I hope she is fearing for her life like Caylee did  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NCMike on April 30, 2010, 10:04:51 AM
I think it has finally dawned on KC and her family that this trial is going to happen sooner rather than later.  The entire tone of the proceedings has changed....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 10:06:39 AM
I think it has finally dawned on KC and her family that this trial is going to happen sooner rather than later.  The entire tone of the proceedings has changed....
Entirely


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 30, 2010, 10:06:57 AM
Before this case is over, CinCin is going to blurt something out and cause a scene, IMO.  She just cannot help it.
Casey is really " tuned out" isn't she...she looks as though she is a mannequin. OR she is going to stop breathing ... at any moment ::MonkeyEek::


I hope she is fearing for her life like Caylee did  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Me too.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on April 30, 2010, 10:07:22 AM
If change of venue, location will not be disclosed until last minute  that means no handpicking venue BOZO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on April 30, 2010, 10:08:26 AM
I love the way the judge says Bahyez...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 10:09:11 AM
Excellent, the jury will be really having to work, five and a half days a week.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 10:09:37 AM
(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/CinGeoBradhearing4302010.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 10:09:50 AM
If change of venue, location will not be disclosed until last minute  that means no handpicking venue BOZO
that is great, and I really hope no change of venue.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 10:10:11 AM
I think it has finally dawned on KC and her family that this trial is going to happen sooner rather than later.  The entire tone of the proceedings has changed....

Isn't it nice to see those silly smiles erased?    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on April 30, 2010, 10:10:20 AM
Wow, court will be 5 and one half days during trial.  He knows his stuff  Games, movies etc will be allowed the jury since they will be sequestered


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 30, 2010, 10:11:29 AM
I think it has finally dawned on KC and her family that this trial is going to happen sooner rather than later.  The entire tone of the proceedings has changed....

Isn't it nice to see those silly smiles erased?    ::MonkeyCool::
It sure is!!


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Post by: Sassycat on April 30, 2010, 10:11:53 AM
(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/CinGeoBradhearing4302010.jpg)
Thanks Cece.
I love this picture.   They all look miserable.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 10:12:46 AM
A.L. is having a doughnut break. lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 10:13:58 AM
I love the way the judge says Bahyez...

Judge :smt038  - Bahyez :clown:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 30, 2010, 10:14:38 AM
Why does George look so much taller in his seat than everyone else?  Is he sitting on a phone book?   ::MonkeyHaHa::  Cindy looks like she's sliding down in her seat.   Makes George look even taller, weird.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 10:14:54 AM
Before this case is over, CinCin is going to blurt something out and cause a scene, IMO.  She just cannot help it.
Casey is really " tuned out" isn't she...she looks as though she is a mannequin. OR she is going to stop breathing ... at any moment ::MonkeyEek::



I think it's dawned on her she is in serious trouble.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 10:15:08 AM
WOOHOO, JP just said y'all!   ::CowboySmiley:: ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on April 30, 2010, 10:15:10 AM
Amazing lack of emotion from Casey this morning


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Blink34 on April 30, 2010, 10:15:20 AM
Omg.

I am dying.


I will bet $100 bucks Mason has a rash.

Lyon not even paying attention.

Ashton says one day for the States Presentation for a penalty phase vs. a week for the defense.

Lawdy.

(sound of whip cracking)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Lovinlife on April 30, 2010, 10:15:27 AM
I notice AL and her Posse are not presesnt but via Skype?  Nice on the eyes. 

Good Morning Monkeys and Justice for Caylee!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 10:16:16 AM
status meetings every 45 days


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 10:17:46 AM
Omg.

I am dying.


I will bet $100 bucks Mason has a rash.

Lyon not even paying attention.

Ashton says one day for the States Presentation for a penalty phase vs. a week for the defense.

Lawdy.

(sound of whip cracking)


I bet Casey needs a fresh set of undies.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 10:18:06 AM
If change of venue, location will not be disclosed until last minute  that means no handpicking venue BOZO
that is great, and I really hope no change of venue.

I bet there won't be.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 10:18:08 AM
Omg.

I am dying.


I will bet $100 bucks Mason has a rash.

Lyon not even paying attention.

Ashton says one day for the States Presentation for a penalty phase vs. a week for the defense.

Lawdy.

(sound of whip cracking)
The smell of pleading Casey out is in the air


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 10:18:10 AM
Omg.

I am dying.


I will bet $100 bucks Mason has a rash.

Lyon not even paying attention.

Ashton says one day for the States Presentation for a penalty phase vs. a week for the defense.

Lawdy.

(sound of whip cracking)

I'll bet both Mason and BOZO wished they had an extra pair of drawers right now!




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 10:19:02 AM
If change of venue, location will not be disclosed until last minute  that means no handpicking venue BOZO
that is great, and I really hope no change of venue.

I bet there won't be.
I certainly hope not, not necessary in my view.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 30, 2010, 10:19:10 AM
I think they passed out Xanax to everyone on the way into the courtroom.   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 10:20:29 AM
If change of venue, location will not be disclosed until last minute  that means no handpicking venue BOZO
that is great, and I really hope no change of venue.

I bet there won't be.

I agree...JMO but I think JP has already made up his mind that there will be a sequestered jury from out of town,  based a lot on the amount of witnesses that are local....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 10:21:50 AM
Baez just couldn't resist correcting Judge Perry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Unreal.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 10:22:21 AM
(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/4302010KC.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 10:22:44 AM
Baez just couldn't resist correcting Judge Perry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Unreal.

I know and IMO it didn't get him any brownie points!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on April 30, 2010, 10:23:04 AM
    I don't know about ya'll, but I have a new love in MY life.   ::MonkeyKiss::  I loves me Judge Perry!!!!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 30, 2010, 10:23:13 AM
Omg.

I am dying.


I will bet $100 bucks Mason has a rash.

Lyon not even paying attention.

Ashton says one day for the States Presentation for a penalty phase vs. a week for the defense.

Lawdy.

(sound of whip cracking)
The smell of pleading Casey out is in the air
I agree - Mason's wheels are turning IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 30, 2010, 10:23:33 AM
Omg.

I am dying.


I will bet $100 bucks Mason has a rash.

Lyon not even paying attention.

Ashton says one day for the States Presentation for a penalty phase vs. a week for the defense.

Lawdy.

(sound of whip cracking)

I'll bet both Mason and BOZO wished they had an extra pair of drawers right now!



::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 10:24:30 AM
    I don't know about ya'll, but I have a new love in MY life.   ::MonkeyKiss::  I loves me Judge Perry!!!!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::MonkeyGavel::  Hammer Time!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 10:25:33 AM
    I don't know about ya'll, but I have a new love in MY life.   ::MonkeyKiss::  I loves me Judge Perry!!!!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyAngel::

ME TOO!  I feel a bit sorry for JS.  I know he is a good judge....But in this case with the players I think JP is gonna whoop some ass!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 10:26:08 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/23317820/detail.html
Casey Anthony Hearing Concludes
Chief Judge Belvin Perry Presides Over Case

POSTED: 9:32 am EDT April 30, 2010
UPDATED: 10:21 am EDT April 30, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
Chief Judge Belvin Perry has begun his first hearing in the Casey Anthony case on Friday.

Perry started the hearing promptly at 9:30 a.m. in what he called a case management hearing.

Prosecutors asked for a weekly deposition day to help manage the many witnesses involved in the investigation. There are 256 witnesses only 36 have yet been deposed.

Anthony faces a first-degree murder charge in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

Perry told both sides to be prepared to discuss a deadline for depositions and future motions. He also wanted to move toward pretrial and trial dates.

The new judge also slated May 6 for a defense budget hearing, and he anticipated more hearings on motions for the following week.

Perry asked attorneys on both sides for their thoughts on sequestering a jury during Anthony's trial. The prosecution said they were in favor of that, but the defense had reservations.
Perry said it may be possible to pick a jury from another part of the state and still hold the trial in Orlando. He also had concerns about other districts being able to accommodate the media and large number of witnesses expected during the trial.

However, Perry said the final determination of a location for the trial would not be disclosed until the last possible moment. Outstanding motions will be addressed during a three-day period beginning on May 9.

Perry said when the trial does begin, the case will be heard weekdays and a half-day on Saturday. He expected the trial and penalty phase to last about two months.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Lovinlife on April 30, 2010, 10:26:31 AM
    I don't know about ya'll, but I have a new love in MY life.   ::MonkeyKiss::  I loves me Judge Perry!!!!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::MonkeyGavel::  Hammer Time!

Certainly a different tone today...


Have a wonderful day everyone! ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 30, 2010, 10:27:01 AM
Baez just couldn't resist correcting Judge Perry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Unreal.

I know and IMO it didn't get him any brownie points!!

I could NOT believe that stupid jerk did that.............It is like the man has NO common sense. The judge can READ the name and for BOZO to be so arrogant is past stupid.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 30, 2010, 10:27:26 AM
Got here late this morning but grabbed these:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image310.png)

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image299.png)

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image309.png)

George and Cindy do not look like happy campers.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 10:27:37 AM
WOWSER   ITA about the whole tone of the court is so different.   Love it.  Everyone including princess looked knocked down a notch, only bozo had the hint of a smirk, geez what in the H will it take to get that gone?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 30, 2010, 10:27:52 AM
Looks like KC is no longer on a stage and in a "courtroom" notice how when she entered and exited there weren't all the hugs and handshakes?  I hope it made an impact on her and she is shaking to her worthless core.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 10:27:54 AM
Baez what a Do*che bag to correct the Judge on how to say LYON ...Lyons.... Who cares?
Her kid Graduating that she cannot appear to the Date Judge Perry requested for Court
Are you kidding me??

The nerve ......... ::MonkeyMad::
He JP could have said NO not sufficient on her excuse...
Judge Perry was taking mental notes consistently through " watching Bozo" ...
Did you all notice that Bozo was at times not listening to the Judge at all... He at times seemed distracted.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 10:28:13 AM
Baez just couldn't resist correcting Judge Perry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Unreal.

I know and IMO it didn't get him any brownie points!!

He just has no breeding, whatsoever.  Am stunned;  You're right---Judge Perry was not pleased. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: tupelohoney on April 30, 2010, 10:28:25 AM
It looks as if the wheels of justice for Caylee are now set in motion....Love It!  No more messing around, games are over and it's time for reality to begin. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 10:28:30 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23307543/detail.html
New Judge In Casey Case Holds Hearing
Casey Anthony Charged With Murder In Death Of Daughter

POSTED: Thursday, April 29, 2010
UPDATED: 9:49 am EDT April 30, 2010
Casey Anthony court hearing
Anthony Apologizes In Court
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony on Friday made her first appearance before a new judge in her murder case.
udge Belvin Perry is holding a case-management hearing in courtroom 23 at the Orange County Courthouse.

Perry took over Anthony's murder case after Orange County Circuit Judge Stan Strickland recused himself. Strickland's move followed a defense motion asking that Strickland be disqualified over a friendship with a blogger.

The hearing is an opportunity for Perry to call all the attorneys together to ensure he has the information he needs to get up to speed on the case.

Anthony, 24, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee Anthony.

Caylee was 2 years old when she was reported missing in July 2008. Her remains were found in December 2008 in a wooded area near the Anthony family's east Orange County home.

Anthony, who has pleaded not guilty, is being held at the Orange County Jail on no bond.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.


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Post by: Brandi on April 30, 2010, 10:28:38 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image301.png)

Jose Baez correcting Judge Perry on Lyon's last name. (Not Lyons ... it is Lyon.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on April 30, 2010, 10:30:24 AM
Did everyone see Cindy mouth "I love you" to Casey as she was leaving?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 10:30:47 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/30/casey_faces_new_judge.html
 Casey Faces New Judge In Court
Friday, April 30, 2010 10:25:17 AM
Reported by Dave D’Marko and Jacqueline Fell

ORLANDO -- Casey Anthony and her defense team were back in court Friday, this time before a new judge.
Belvin Perry was assigned to the trial after Judge Stan Strickland recused himself at the request of Anthony’s lawyers.

The defense said Strickland had an inappropriate discussion with a blogger covering the case.

Some analysts, however, said Strickland’s replacement could be more difficult to deal with as they try to defend Casey against charges of murdering her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.

Perry has been described as a no-nonsense judge, and he has already laid down the law on how he wants attorneys on both sides of the case to act in court.

Friday’s hearing was a merely a formality. Perry got acquainted with the case’s key players and discuss deadlines, including the deposition of all witnesses, as well as deadlines for future motions, and the overall timetable for Casey’s trial.

More importantly, it was Perry’s first opportunity to set the tone for the rest of the case.

Perry has been on the bench since 1989. Earlier in April, he ruled death row inmate David Johnston was not mentally disabled, and could be executed.
He is also presiding over the case of Jason Rodriguez, the man suspected of going on a deadly shooting rampage at his former downtown Orlando office in 2009.

“I couldn’t image a worse combination of a judge you would want presiding over your case, when the death penalty is the ultimate issue you’re trying to avoid,” said Richard Hornsby, a local criminal defense attorney.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 30, 2010, 10:31:29 AM
Did everyone see Cindy mouth "I love you" to Casey as she was leaving?
Yes and it about made me gag.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 10:31:38 AM
Baez just couldn't resist correcting Judge Perry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Unreal.

I know and IMO it didn't get him any brownie points!!

I could NOT believe that stupid jerk did that.............It is like the man has NO common sense. The judge can READ the name and for BOZO to be so arrogant is past stupid.

Exactly---and he waited until the very end to pull his uncouth, boorish act.  Then he quickly turned to Linda, etc. and pretended as though he was actually correctly them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 30, 2010, 10:31:53 AM
Before this case is over, CinCin is going to blurt something out and cause a scene, IMO.  She just cannot help it.
Casey is really " tuned out" isn't she...she looks as though she is a mannequin. OR she is going to stop breathing ... at any moment ::MonkeyEek::



I think it's dawned on her she is in serious trouble.

I think she has realized that her parents can't help her and her attorneys can't do diddly for her. I have always believed the BOZO blew smoke up her nose making her believe he could get her off from the beginning and now the CRUNCH is here, she SEES her future.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: tupelohoney on April 30, 2010, 10:31:55 AM
Did everyone see Cindy mouth "I love you" to Casey as she was leaving?
Yes....I just wish I knew if Casey even looked at them or was it strictly for the cameras?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 30, 2010, 10:32:26 AM
Did everyone see Cindy mouth "I love you" to Casey as she was leaving?
Yes and it about made me gag.

I missed it.   Was there any response from KC?   Did KC even see it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 10:32:35 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/Features/GeneralChat/default.aspx
Updates from Court


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 10:32:56 AM
Looks like KC is no longer on a stage and in a "courtroom" notice how when she entered and exited there weren't all the hugs and handshakes?  I hope it made an impact on her and she is shaking to her worthless core.

I gotta go find the whole thing to watch , I missed the first part but yeah, you're right no center stage for kc.  She either looks like shes calmer (valium?) or somebody has finally told her to come out of her dream world.....worthless core. so agree!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 30, 2010, 10:33:20 AM
Did everyone see Cindy mouth "I love you" to Casey as she was leaving?
Yes and it about made me gag.

What is up with that Moo Moo thing CA had on?  Is she as fat as she looks in it now? Her and GA both looked like walking death today............where is all that head up, strutting they used to do?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 10:34:06 AM
slide show:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/23318353/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 30, 2010, 10:34:17 AM
Did everyone see Cindy mouth "I love you" to Casey as she was leaving?
Yes and it about made me gag.

I missed it.   Was there any response from KC?   Did KC even see it?
Unfortunately the camera didn't show KC at the time but I am guessing not, she never looks their way and I am sure she was a bit blind sided by the tone of this hearing and didn't know what just hit her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 10:34:57 AM
Before this case is over, CinCin is going to blurt something out and cause a scene, IMO.  She just cannot help it.
Casey is really " tuned out" isn't she...she looks as though she is a mannequin. OR she is going to stop breathing ... at any moment ::MonkeyEek::



I think it's dawned on her she is in serious trouble.

I think she has realized that her parents can't help her and her attorneys can't do diddly for her. I have always believed the BOZO blew smoke up her nose making her believe he could get her off from the beginning and now the CRUNCH is here, she SEES her future.

Yes, I agree.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on April 30, 2010, 10:35:00 AM
Did everyone see Cindy mouth "I love you" to Casey as she was leaving?
Yes and it about made me gag.

I missed it.   Was there any response from KC?   Did KC even see it?

The camera never went back to her so it's impossible to say if he saw even saw or acknowledged it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Scatty on April 30, 2010, 10:35:25 AM
Wow! What little angels!  ::MonkeyShocked:: The kids got the STRICT teacher in class today. Wonder how long their good behavior will last?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 30, 2010, 10:35:27 AM
Did everyone see Cindy mouth "I love you" to Casey as she was leaving?
Yes and it about made me gag.

What is up with that Moo Moo thing CA had on?  Is she as fat as she looks in it now? Her and GA both looked like walking death today............where is all that head up, strutting they used to do?

I guess they didn't like what KC wrote in those jail letters?     ::MonkeyTongue::   It knocked them off their high-horse a little, perhaps?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 10:35:44 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/23309998/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony was in the courtroom Friday morning for her first hearing in front of the new judge presiding over the murder case. Casey arrived just before the 9:30am hearing and sat down next to her attorney, Jose Baez.

CASEY IN COURT: See Images | Raw Video
COURT IMAGES: George, Cindy, Lawyers Inside Courtroom

Casey, wearing a pink, long-sleeved button down collar shirt, seemed in good spirits as she smiled while talking to Baez before Orange County Chief Judge Belvin Perry arrived in the courtroom.

Once Judge Perry arrived, things got going quickly, with the judge carrying a firm tone, pressing both parties on outstanding motions, including for change of venue and dealing with the death penalty.

Perry scheduled a hearing during the week of May 10 to discuss several motions dealing with the death penalty.

Regarding the change of venue request made by the defense, Judge Perry said he would consider it but, if he did change the venue, it would not be disclosed until the last minute. He also said it's possible they could get the jury from a pool outside of Orange County and still hold the trial inside the county.

Judge Perry said, once the trial starts, if the jury were to be sequestered, he would work five and a half days a week (a half-day on Saturdays).

Judge Perry asked the two parties about the scheduled trial start date of May 9, 2011 and if they were okay with it. Both seemed satisfied with that date.

“I would like to do it sooner, but it looks like ya’ll have agreed on something. My only concern is that, as you know, under our system of laws, the adversary system of justice is memory dependent and, unfortunately, memories deteriorate over a period of time,” Judge Perry said. “I will think about it. I’m inclined to stick to the same schedule, but once we do that I will enter an order and you will be stuck with it.”

Judge Perry then pushed for information much more aggressively than in previous hearings, pressing the two parties on how long the trial will take. After brief discussion, Judge Perry suggested that it sounded like the guilt/innocence phase of the trial would lost between four and six weeks with one week for sentencing if Casey were found guilty.

"As you know, we will have status hearing every 45 days to make sure you are following this schedule," Judge Perry said, referring to the schedule he'll provide to be sure they're ready for the trial date.

WFTV reported last week when Chief Perry took over for Judge Stan Strickland after he recused himself from the case. Judge Perry has been on the bench in Central Florida for 21 years. He is the go-to judge for cases causing a problem for the court. Friday morning, he expects a status update on the case from both the prosecution and the defense.

Judge Perry also sent both sides a decorum policy and reminded them the rules will be followed at all times in his courtroom. He has been Chief Judge for 13 years and is known to get straight to the point and does not put up with nonsense.

"He sets a tone of authority in his courtroom. No one ever questions who's in charge once you walk into Judge Perry's courtroom," WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said.

Judge Perry is taking over leading the proceedings some 20 months into the case against Casey. The pace of the case has been slow-going to this point, mostly because of a flurry of motions filed by the defense.

However, Sheaffer says Judge Perry may speed up the case, which currently is not scheduled to go to trial until May 2011.

Judge Perry has overseen tough cases before. He took over the case involving a homeless man's murder, because another judge allowed the suspect to get out of jail on bond. Also, last year, he sent two men to prison for life when a jury found them guilty for murdering Orlando Police Officer Al Gordon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 30, 2010, 10:36:10 AM
Did everyone see Cindy mouth "I love you" to Casey as she was leaving?
Yes and it about made me gag.

I missed it.   Was there any response from KC?   Did KC even see it?

The camera never went back to her so it's impossible to say if he saw even saw or acknowledged it.

Thanks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: joesamas mama on April 30, 2010, 10:36:45 AM
Morning Monkeys I didn't get to watch court. Did Cindy leave her gum at home? TIA JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 10:36:58 AM
Did everyone see Cindy mouth "I love you" to Casey as she was leaving?
Yes and it about made me gag.

I missed it.   Was there any response from KC?   Did KC even see it?

I missed it too...maybe we'll see it on video;  CinCin thinks she's omnipotent, IMO.  Her days of self worship are coming to a fast conclusion, IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 10:37:46 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
04/30/2010           Objection
to Courts Order on Defendants Motion to Disqualify Trial Judge

04/30/2010           Transaction Assessment            15.99
04/30/2010           Counter Payment    Receipt # CR-2010-29218    ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE    (15.99)
04/30/2010           Transaction Assessment            15.00
04/30/2010           Counter Payment    Receipt # CR-2010-29251    ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE    (15.00)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 30, 2010, 10:37:46 AM
Did everyone see Cindy mouth "I love you" to Casey as she was leaving?
Yes and it about made me gag.

I missed it.   Was there any response from KC?   Did KC even see it?
Unfortunately the camera didn't show KC at the time but I am guessing not, she never looks their way and I am sure she was a bit blind sided by the tone of this hearing and didn't know what just hit her.

I bet Cindy's actions are all for show anyway.    What a dumbazz.   Doesn't she realize she's going under the bus?   jmo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 10:37:53 AM
Did everyone see Cindy mouth "I love you" to Casey as she was leaving?
Yes and it about made me gag.

What is up with that Moo Moo thing CA had on?  Is she as fat as she looks in it now? Her and GA both looked like walking death today............where is all that head up, strutting they used to do?

A maternity dres?    ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: can on April 30, 2010, 10:38:19 AM
Did everyone see Cindy mouth "I love you" to Casey as she was leaving?
Yes....I just wish I knew if Casey even looked at them or was it strictly for the cameras?

Didn't show that.
Cindy, pathetic as usual and still wanting a place on the stage!   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 10:38:39 AM
**dress**


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 10:38:40 AM
Did everyone see Cindy mouth "I love you" to Casey as she was leaving?
Yes I did. I'm thrilled today looks like it finally has put the fear into Casey, this is no longer a game for her, and she must realize she is going down. I just wish this judge would have been the judge all along.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 10:39:02 AM
slide show:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/23318353/detail.html

does anyone know who the older lady is with white hair sitting behind BC...this link...thanks cece....picture # 19 is a good shot of her


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 10:39:12 AM
Before this case is over, CinCin is going to blurt something out and cause a scene, IMO.  She just cannot help it.
Casey is really " tuned out" isn't she...she looks as though she is a mannequin. OR she is going to stop breathing ... at any moment ::MonkeyEek::



I think it's dawned on her she is in serious trouble.

I think she has realized that her parents can't help her and her attorneys can't do diddly for her. I have always believed the BOZO blew smoke up her nose making her believe he could get her off from the beginning and now the CRUNCH is here, she SEES her future.
That's for sure. She looked like she was going to fall over at any second. This is a no longer " Her Game" nor is it the Duhfense's playing field... it is Judge Perry/Public/State and her fate.  I guess Baez/Mason got what they wanted when Judge Strickland stepped down. I would love to be a fly on the wall to hear Judges Strickland's opinion of today's proceedings. Yes, Indeed the Irony was very Rich Today.  ::MonkeyGavel::

Justice is coming Caylee  ::MonkeyAngel::  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 30, 2010, 10:39:18 AM
Morning Monkeys I didn't get to watch court. Did Cindy leave her gum at home? TIA JSM

Yep.   ::MonkeyDance::   But now she's chewing on her fingers and hands.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 10:40:30 AM
slide show:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/23318353/detail.html

does anyone know who the older lady is with white hair sitting behind BC...this link...thanks cece....picture # 19 is a good shot of her

You're welcome Sunny.

Sorry, I don't know who she is.

video:

http://www.wftv.com/video/23318107/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 30, 2010, 10:40:54 AM
Did everyone see Cindy mouth "I love you" to Casey as she was leaving?
Yes and it about made me gag.

I missed it.   Was there any response from KC?   Did KC even see it?
Unfortunately the camera didn't show KC at the time but I am guessing not, she never looks their way and I am sure she was a bit blind sided by the tone of this hearing and didn't know what just hit her.

I bet Cindy's actions are all for show anyway.    What a dumbazz.   Doesn't she realize she's going under the bus?   jmo
Exactly - her and George have already been tossed under - CA is such a fake.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: joesamas mama on April 30, 2010, 10:41:28 AM
Morning Monkeys I didn't get to watch court. Did Cindy leave her gum at home? TIA JSM

Yep.   ::MonkeyDance::   But now she's chewing on her fingers and hands.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
Thanks Sassy I noticed in the pictures it looked like she was shoving her fingers down her big fat gob.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 30, 2010, 10:42:12 AM
slide show:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/23318353/detail.html

does anyone know who the older lady is with white hair sitting behind BC...this link...thanks cece....picture # 19 is a good shot of her

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image320.png)

Grabbed the image for you, Sunny. (I don't know who she is though.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 10:42:41 AM
Finally, this is it, now one can feel justice for Caylee, and it is about time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 10:43:59 AM
slide show:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/23318353/detail.html

does anyone know who the older lady is with white hair sitting behind BC...this link...thanks cece....picture # 19 is a good shot of her

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image320.png)

Grabbed the image for you, Sunny. (I don't know who she is though.)

thanks Brandi and Cece.......I wonder if she is family?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on April 30, 2010, 10:44:23 AM
Finally, this is it, now one can feel justice for Caylee, and it is about time.

I agree.   I can almost smell Justice!    ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 10:45:54 AM
slide show:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/23318353/detail.html

does anyone know who the older lady is with white hair sitting behind BC...this link...thanks cece....picture # 19 is a good shot of her

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image320.png)

Grabbed the image for you, Sunny. (I don't know who she is though.)

notice, no Caylee buttons....they only bring those out when they are looking for money or sympathy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 10:46:36 AM
Finally, this is it, now one can feel justice for Caylee, and it is about time.

I agree.   I can almost smell Justice!    ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::
I think Judge Strickland is a nice man, but he never grabbed the bull by the horns, now after all this wasted time someone finally is. If Judge Perry would have been the judge all along, Casey would be a fleeting memory, and Caylee would have gotten her justice.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 30, 2010, 10:47:04 AM
If change of venue, location will not be disclosed until last minute  that means no handpicking venue BOZO
that is great, and I really hope no change of venue.

In the large cases here they bring in juries from another part of the state and sequester them rather than moving the court proceedings because of the cost. It serves the same purpose of having jurors not from the local area and since they are sequestered anyway there is very little additional expense for the taxpayers. To move a trial of that magnitude with all the witnesses would be a complete waste of money since all the witnesses would have to be provided for in transportation, housing, etc. They won't do it in this state since it serves no purpose.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 10:47:04 AM
Did everyone see Cindy mouth "I love you" to Casey as she was leaving?
Yes I did. I'm thrilled today looks like it finally has put the fear into Casey, this is no longer a game for her, and she must realize she is going down. I just wish this judge would have been the judge all along.

Actually ... I think it's worked out better:  whiplash


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on April 30, 2010, 10:47:20 AM
One thing I noticed....Casey was NOT playing with her hair today or adjusting her clothes with her chest pushed out. I think all that was preening for Judge Strickland. George and Cindy looked like warmed over death this morning.
And stupid Bozo does not want the jury sequestered so they can watch his brilliant interviews after court everyday.

I like Judge Perry, he does not sit and consider, he just tells it like it is. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 10:47:48 AM
I can't help myself, I am taking great pleasure at looking at George and Cindy looking like the walking dead. Their game has gone on long enough.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 10:48:20 AM
Justice for Caylee  ::MonkeyAngel::
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/caylee/smallpic.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 10:48:41 AM
Morning Monkeys I didn't get to watch court. Did Cindy leave her gum at home? TIA JSM

Yep.   ::MonkeyDance::   But now she's chewing on her fingers and hands.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
Omg if she wasn't chewing her fingers, she had her fist practically in her mouth ..notice how she was sitting too ...like a weak, melted scorned Anthony. George was sitting as if he had a stick up him...straight as a pin. I wonder if his LE days were flashing back to him. That he actually was sitting showing respect...for once. No smirking..no shaking his head back and forth as he did in Judge Strickland's Court Room... He actually looked as though " George Gets it " This is Real for the first time. Its about time that the Anthonys Show some respect. I guess today was a turning point from them all visually * Casey included " They are not Above the Law".

Casey Burn Baby Burn ....  ::MonkeyCool::

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 10:49:04 AM
Justice for Caylee  ::MonkeyAngel::
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/caylee/smallpic.jpg)
And NOW there will be  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 10:49:35 AM
Finally, this is it, now one can feel justice for Caylee, and it is about time.

I agree.   I can almost smell Justice!    ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::
I think Judge Strickland is a nice man, but he never grabbed the bull by the horns, now after all this wasted time someone finally is. If Judge Perry would have been the judge all along, Casey would be a fleeting memory, and Caylee would have gotten her justice.
ITA NOROSE. a lot of wasted time, this judge is going to hold them to a way higher bar.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on April 30, 2010, 10:50:25 AM
slide show:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/23318353/detail.html

does anyone know who the older lady is with white hair sitting behind BC...this link...thanks cece....picture # 19 is a good shot of her

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image320.png)

Grabbed the image for you, Sunny. (I don't know who she is though.)

thanks Brandi and Cece.......I wonder if she is family?

I wondered if she is a reporter, or someone doing some independent research, or writing a book.  She had a long legal pad on which she was taking notes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on April 30, 2010, 10:53:31 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
04/30/2010           Objection
to Courts Order on Defendants Motion to Disqualify Trial Judge

04/30/2010           Transaction Assessment            15.99
04/30/2010           Counter Payment    Receipt # CR-2010-29218    ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE    (15.99)
04/30/2010           Transaction Assessment            15.00
04/30/2010           Counter Payment    Receipt # CR-2010-29251    ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE    (15.00)




Can someone explain the Objection above? Is it Casey objecting or the state?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on April 30, 2010, 10:54:02 AM
I missed the part about during trial that court will be in session 5.5 days/week. Was there any reaction to that? I'll watch it again when the video is posted.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 30, 2010, 10:54:15 AM
Morning Monkeys I didn't get to watch court. Did Cindy leave her gum at home? TIA JSM

Yep.   ::MonkeyDance::   But now she's chewing on her fingers and hands.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
Omg if she wasn't chewing her fingers, she had her fist practically in her mouth ..notice how she was sitting too ...like a weak, melted scorned Anthony. George was sitting as if he had a stick up him...straight as a pin. I wonder if his LE days were flashing back to him. That he actually was sitting showing respect...for once. No smirking..no shaking his head back and forth as he did in Judge Strickland's Court Room... He actually looked as though " George Gets it " This is Real for the first time. Its about time that the Anthonys Show some respect. I guess today was a turning point from them all visually * Casey included " They are not Above the Law".

Casey Burn Baby Burn ....  ::MonkeyCool::

 

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image315.png)

Caught Cindy for one second without her fist in her mouth, but she sure is slinking down in that seat. Like a kid in school who did not do her homework, hoping the teacher does not call on her. LOL

Yes, very nice to see court run the way it should be. With respect.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 10:54:23 AM
I loved it when JP asked BOZO how much time he anticipated it would take for the defense's part.....and he answered approx 2 months for the whole trial........then JP said something like now, I will ask the question again.....................LOL....it was like OK FOOL now answer the questions I asked. ::MonkeyJnBox::

BOZO is gonna be on trutv later on......I have a bad tummy this morning so I will NOT be watching


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 10:55:21 AM
Finally, this is it, now one can feel justice for Caylee, and it is about time.

I agree.   I can almost smell Justice!    ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::
I think Judge Strickland is a nice man, but he never grabbed the bull by the horns, now after all this wasted time someone finally is. If Judge Perry would have been the judge all along, Casey would be a fleeting memory, and Caylee would have gotten her justice.
ITA NOROSE. a lot of wasted time, this judge is going to hold them to a way higher bar.
Nice person doesn't cut it for a judge. You can be nice, but not once can you let the people feel you have lost control. No way will this judge lose control.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 10:55:34 AM
slide show:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/23318353/detail.html

does anyone know who the older lady is with white hair sitting behind BC...this link...thanks cece....picture # 19 is a good shot of her

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image320.png)

Grabbed the image for you, Sunny. (I don't know who she is though.)

notice, no Caylee buttons....they only bring those out when they are looking for money or sympathy

Good catch;  Maybe that woman is related to George?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on April 30, 2010, 10:55:40 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
04/30/2010           Objection
to Courts Order on Defendants Motion to Disqualify Trial Judge

04/30/2010           Transaction Assessment            15.99
04/30/2010           Counter Payment    Receipt # CR-2010-29218    ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE    (15.99)
04/30/2010           Transaction Assessment            15.00
04/30/2010           Counter Payment    Receipt # CR-2010-29251    ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE    (15.00)




Can someone explain the Objection above? Is it Casey objecting or the state?

I wish I had the answer to that question, but I don't understand who filed it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 30, 2010, 10:55:54 AM
I missed the part about during trial that court will be in session 5.5 days/week. Was there any reaction to that? I'll watch it again when the video is posted.

No reaction that I noticed. Stoic faces only.

Sounds like Mon-Friday and a half day on Saturdays.

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Tevye on April 30, 2010, 10:56:22 AM
Morning Monkeys I didn't get to watch court. Did Cindy leave her gum at home? TIA JSM

Yep.   ::MonkeyDance::   But now she's chewing on her fingers and hands.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
Omg if she wasn't chewing her fingers, she had her fist practically in her mouth ..notice how she was sitting too ...like a weak, melted scorned Anthony. George was sitting as if he had a stick up him...straight as a pin. I wonder if his LE days were flashing back to him. That he actually was sitting showing respect...for once. No smirking..no shaking his head back and forth as he did in Judge Strickland's Court Room... He actually looked as though " George Gets it " This is Real for the first time. Its about time that the Anthonys Show some respect. I guess today was a turning point from them all visually * Casey included " They are not Above the Law".

Casey Burn Baby Burn ....  ::MonkeyCool::

 
Please see what Bob has to say about that whole burn thing!!! ::MonkeyCheer2:: ::MonkeyCheer2:: ::MonkeyCheer2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 10:57:57 AM
Justice for Caylee  ::MonkeyAngel::
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/caylee/smallpic.jpg)
And NOW there will be  ::MonkeyAngel::

Precious child.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 10:58:35 AM
Thank-you for all the screen shots  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 30, 2010, 10:59:46 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image317.png)

Finally .... they all look serious.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: can on April 30, 2010, 11:00:46 AM
slide show:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/23318353/detail.html

does anyone know who the older lady is with white hair sitting behind BC...this link...thanks cece....picture # 19 is a good shot of her

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image320.png)

Grabbed the image for you, Sunny. (I don't know who she is though.)

notice, no Caylee buttons....they only bring those out when they are looking for money or sympathy

Good catch;  Maybe that woman is related to George?

George does have something on his collar though. 

Wondering if the woman w/the glasses is George's Mother?

Think the A's realize the show is over.  Wonder if they know how badly they fudged things up.  No do over's C and A.

Love Judge Perry - a no nonsense man!   ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 11:01:04 AM
The Objection to having Stan removed was filed today.  Wondering if Rosebud and Mr Rosebud filed it?  Surely the defense is not trying to get a do over as their last motion blew up in their face. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 11:01:32 AM
Finally, this is it, now one can feel justice for Caylee, and it is about time.

I agree.   I can almost smell Justice!    ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::
I think Judge Strickland is a nice man, but he never grabbed the bull by the horns, now after all this wasted time someone finally is. If Judge Perry would have been the judge all along, Casey would be a fleeting memory, and Caylee would have gotten her justice.
ITA NOROSE. a lot of wasted time, this judge is going to hold them to a way higher bar.
The Gift that Strickland Gave the Public I believe - is he allowed the People to see the Clown Posse alive, kicking and crying WAAH in Court. None of that would have been tolerated with Judge Perry - yet it did happen and all is documented on video/audio/transcript. The People " We" were able to see the True Bozo. Granted it was a lot of time, and money. Now seeing the comparison of behavior of the Dream Team ..from then to now is Priceless.

 ::MonkeyAngel:: Caylee   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 11:01:32 AM
Bobo and The Jar are on In Session right now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 11:02:51 AM
Bobo just said he is excited to have Judge Perry on the case.  Bobo felt they had the preofessional responsibility to file the motion against Stan.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on April 30, 2010, 11:04:09 AM
The Objection to having Stan removed was filed today.  Wondering if Rosebud and Mr Rosebud filed it?  Surely the defense is not trying to get a do over as their last motion blew up in their face. 

Right, no way could it be the defense, but who would file something like that? I doubt the A's did. They don't want to ruin things for their precious Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 11:04:45 AM
The Jar just said there was no reason for him to speak in the court room today.  Bobo is the lead attorney and was handling things. 

If there is no reason for him to speak is there any reason the state should be paying his fees for looking pretty behind a desk?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 11:05:42 AM
Bobo and The Jar are on In Session right now.

thanks NR...I heard they were going to be on.....since you have your tin foil hat on I hope you can listen/watch


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 11:05:44 AM
Finally, this is it, now one can feel justice for Caylee, and it is about time.

I agree.   I can almost smell Justice!    ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::
I think Judge Strickland is a nice man, but he never grabbed the bull by the horns, now after all this wasted time someone finally is. If Judge Perry would have been the judge all along, Casey would be a fleeting memory, and Caylee would have gotten her justice.
ITA NOROSE. a lot of wasted time, this judge is going to hold them to a way higher bar.
The Gift that Strickland Gave the Public I believe - is he allowed the People to see the Clown Posse alive, kicking and crying WAAH in Court. None of that would have been tolerated with Judge Perry - yet it did happen and all is documented on video/audio/transcript. The People " We" were able to see the True Bozo. Granted it was a lot of time, and money. Now seeing the comparison of behavior of the Dream Team ..from then to now is Priceless.

 ::MonkeyAngel:: Caylee   
DEENIE, I never thought of it that way but exactly. Everyone got to see them in their unprofessional, snarky glory.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: can on April 30, 2010, 11:05:57 AM
The Objection to having Stan removed was filed today.  Wondering if Rosebud and Mr Rosebud filed it?  Surely the defense is not trying to get a do over as their last motion blew up in their face. 

That's interesting.  Thanks Northern


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 11:07:29 AM
Bobo and The Jar are on In Session right now.
NoRose do you have a link ? ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 11:07:55 AM
The Objection to having Stan removed was filed today.  Wondering if Rosebud and Mr Rosebud filed it?  Surely the defense is not trying to get a do over as their last motion blew up in their face. 

That's interesting.  Thanks Northern
I'm lost on this one. Explain please  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on April 30, 2010, 11:08:25 AM
The Jar just said there was no reason for him to speak in the court room today.  Bobo is the lead attorney and was handling things. 

If there is no reason for him to speak is there any reason the state should be paying his fees for looking pretty behind a desk?

Why are they keeping Lyon when Mason is death penalty qualified?
I still can't stand him even if he didn't open his mouth. He takes his glasses on and off which drives me crazy.


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Post by: tupelohoney on April 30, 2010, 11:08:44 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image317.png)

Finally .... they all look serious.
Except for Casey....she is off in la la land.  She better wake up....or I guess she already knows she's done....just waiting to hear life of death.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 11:09:08 AM
Bobo and The Jar are on In Session right now.
Northern do you have a link ? ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on April 30, 2010, 11:10:17 AM
Bobo and The Jar are on In Session right now.
Northern do you have a link ? ::MonkeyCool::

Probably on TV.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 11:10:17 AM
The Jar is dancing around why the defense is not in agreement about having jurors sequestered.  He is concerned about the jury not hearing commentary from people who know what they are talking about (anyone else get the feeling that the defense has a whole media schedule ready for trial on where they are going to pop up?)

Wondering if Lyon does not want a sequestered jury as it will be mostly the "blue hairs" she talked so fondly about in her little speak to her fellow lawyers. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 11:11:05 AM
Bobo and The Jar are on In Session right now.
Northern do you have a link ? ::MonkeyCool::

Probably on TV.

Yes, TruTV


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 30, 2010, 11:12:01 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image317.png)

Finally .... they all look serious.
Except for Casey....she is off in la la land.  She better wake up....or I guess she already knows she's done....just waiting to hear life of death.

Well, at least she stopped the preening and the scribbling on notepads ;-) But yes, she looks like she is staring right through to another reality.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 11:12:30 AM
The Jar is dancing around why the defense is not in agreement about having jurors sequestered.  He is concerned about the jury not hearing commentary from people who know what they are talking about (anyone else get the feeling that the defense has a whole media schedule ready for trial on where they are going to pop up?)

Wondering if Lyon does not want a sequestered jury as it will be mostly the "blue hairs" she talked so fondly about in her little speak to her fellow lawyers. 
This jury is going to have to be sequestered, imo, no way can they take a chance of the Anthonys and their sidekicks getting to one of the jurors.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 11:13:22 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image317.png)

Finally .... they all look serious.
Except for Casey....she is off in la la land.  She better wake up....or I guess she already knows she's done....just waiting to hear life of death.

Well, at least she stopped the preening and the scribbling on notepads ;-) But yes, she looks like she is staring right through to another reality.
She is drugged up big time, they weren't going to take a chance of her screwing up, she looks very sedated.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 11:13:24 AM
Bobo and The Jar are on In Session right now.

thanks NR...I heard they were going to be on.....since you have your tin foil hat on I hope you can listen/watch

I think I need to get a nice welder to add an extra layer of lead for my hat before this is over.  I can not believe that the defense had it all planned to go straight from the court room to TV.  Should they not be working on the case rather than their TV skills?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Singlovelaugh on April 30, 2010, 11:15:17 AM
This was a BEAUTIFUL morning for Caylee Marie!!

I believe in an afterlife, and I can see Caylee jumping around and clapping with glee, laughing, smiling and all those around her rejoicing with her that finally, finally, justice has commenced and is going to move along with no more delays, no more bus stops, no more trying to take away the focus from the awful tragedy of her demise.  I am so full of thanks that Judge Perry is in control of this courtroom and I felt for the first time since LDB made that statement to Judge S. - ""No,...actually my position is not to protect the family, my position is to protect the child who is deceased." that this Judge is of the same opinion.  

Today was different from every single other hearing thus far in this case.  I believe we have entered the currents and are going to ride this boat in a very swift manner with one person at the helm who will guide it safely, without error and with no impropriety to justice for this baby. May 9, 2011 will be here before we know it, if there is no plea, and I sure hope there is not a plea.  I want to see Casey pay with her life.  An eye for an eye.

I watched the faces of all "the guilty parties" involved in this ugly, horrid affair and I saw fear and intimidation written on all their faces. yes, Cindy still has to put on her little love show for the camera and Baez is still such an obnoxious charlatan but this train has left the station and I don't believe there will be any detours from the tracks laid out by this Judge.  

I also believe Judge Perry will go get the Jurors and bring them right back to Orlando, where this case will be heard.  There is only one reason why a defense team would not want this jury sequestered and it's plain as the guilt by Casey's actions; which is so they could "get" to them in some way.  But it's not going to happen!!  Judge Perry already as much as told them that this jury would be untainted, unspoiled and untouched by any such shenanigans.

Oh what a beautiful morning for justice for Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 11:16:14 AM
The Jar is dancing around why the defense is not in agreement about having jurors sequestered.  He is concerned about the jury not hearing commentary from people who know what they are talking about (anyone else get the feeling that the defense has a whole media schedule ready for trial on where they are going to pop up?)

Wondering if Lyon does not want a sequestered jury as it will be mostly the "blue hairs" she talked so fondly about in her little speak to her fellow lawyers. 
This jury is going to have to be sequestered, imo, no way can they take a chance of the Anthonys and their sidekicks getting to one of the jurors.

Bobo was blathering about how even if the jury was sequestered in Orange County the defense had concerns of people protesting in front of the court house or over zealous reporters finding family of jury members and interviewing them. Firm on having trial moved to south Florida as their research showed that was the best place.  NEWS FLASH BOBO....if they are sequestered they would not find out of any of that until after trial . 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 11:16:48 AM
Another Monkey mentioned Xanax .. Casey looked Catatonic

Found this: http://www.webref.org/psychology/c/catatonic_behavior.htm
Catatonic Behavior

Marked motor abnormalities, generally limited to those occurring as part of a non-organic psychotic disorder. This term includes catatonic excitement (apparently purposeless agitation not influenced by external stimuli), stupor (decreased reactivity and fewer spontaneous movements, often with apparent unawareness of the surroundings), negativism (apparent motiveless resistance to instructions or attempts to be moved), posturing (the person’s assuming and maintaining an inappropriate or bizarre stance), rigidity (the person’s maintaining a stance or posture against all efforts to be moved), and waxy flexibility, or cerea flexibilitas (the person’s limbs can be put into positions that are maintained).

I think Casey only moved her head a handful of times. Otherwise she looked Permanent - No movement. Staring Straight Ahead as if she would be Shot if she moved.  Slow blinking.   
She was def out of Zone. Where she was? Who Knows...maybe in the RV with her Muffin.
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 11:17:07 AM
Casey was so medicated, I'm surprised she wasn't drooling all over herself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 11:17:13 AM
Bobo and The Jar are on In Session right now.

thanks NR...I heard they were going to be on.....since you have your tin foil hat on I hope you can listen/watch

I think I need to get a nice welder to add an extra layer of lead for my hat before this is over.  I can not believe that the defense had it all planned to go straight from the court room to TV.  Should they not be working on the case rather than their TV skills?

NR....totally agree......and I do not think this will be lost on JP....IMO....just another BAD MOVE.................


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 11:17:59 AM
The Objection to having Stan removed was filed today.  Wondering if Rosebud and Mr Rosebud filed it?  Surely the defense is not trying to get a do over as their last motion blew up in their face. 

That's interesting.  Thanks Northern
I'm lost on this one. Explain please  ::MonkeyEek::

Trimm posted a page or two back that there was a motion filed today OBJECTING to Stan being removed as the Judge.  This just gets weirder.  Hope the media posts who filed this one. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 11:18:58 AM
I have to say I was not disappointed in the hearing today!!

I'll bet Mark Nejame will be there next time to 'defend' himself as BOZO alluded to ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Mtnmom on April 30, 2010, 11:19:00 AM
Good morning. I missed the whole thing. Is there someplace to still watch this?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 11:19:44 AM
Bobo and The Jar are on In Session right now.

thanks NR...I heard they were going to be on.....since you have your tin foil hat on I hope you can listen/watch

I think I need to get a nice welder to add an extra layer of lead for my hat before this is over.  I can not believe that the defense had it all planned to go straight from the court room to TV.  Should they not be working on the case rather than their TV skills?
IMO this entire case has never ever been about kc. It's about Baez, yes he's been FORCED to bring qualified help on board, but this has been his yellow brick road from the gitgo and until somebody in authority makes him step aside, he will work this in the media for his own future gigs.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 11:20:02 AM
Bobo and The Jar are on In Session right now.

thanks NR...I heard they were going to be on.....since you have your tin foil hat on I hope you can listen/watch

I think I need to get a nice welder to add an extra layer of lead for my hat before this is over.  I can not believe that the defense had it all planned to go straight from the court room to TV.  Should they not be working on the case rather than their TV skills?
I agree Northern.. my brain is flying.
I wonder what Mark Nejame is thinking right now .......... ??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 11:20:10 AM
OHMYGAWD!  Mason just referred to the case as a SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  said someething about taking this whole SHOW on the road.....meaning change of venue


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 11:22:27 AM
The Objection to having Stan removed was filed today.  Wondering if Rosebud and Mr Rosebud filed it?  Surely the defense is not trying to get a do over as their last motion blew up in their face. 

That's interesting.  Thanks Northern
I'm lost on this one. Explain please  ::MonkeyEek::

Trimm posted a page or two back that there was a motion filed today OBJECTING to Stan being removed as the Judge.  This just gets weirder.  Hope the media posts who filed this one. 
Thank-you, I missed that, I didn't catch up this morning just got here in time to watch the hearing. I will go back and look at this later. WTH is this now  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 11:22:37 AM
Bobo still wining about not moving the case.  The local area is full of bloggers that talk abotu the case daily, local media is on the pulse of this case....bla...bla...bla.....

Now he is talking about junk science and air samples from the trunk.  Oakridge lab is not a crime lab, defense has issues with data being turned over that they used to come to conclusions as the defense has no way to verify data and do their own testing .  Defense going to challenge their novel science that is not ready for court especially a death penalty case. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 30, 2010, 11:22:46 AM
OHMYGAWD!  Mason just referred to the case as a SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  said someething about taking this whole SHOW on the road.....meaning change of venue

I can imagine he thinks of himself as a "star."

sheesh


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 11:23:01 AM
Good morning. I missed the whole thing. Is there someplace to still watch this?
Morning - try here. Not sure the entire video is available yet. The beginning is posted for view
http://www.wftv.com/video/23318107/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 11:23:32 AM
OHMYGAWD!  Mason just referred to the case as a SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  said someething about taking this whole SHOW on the road.....meaning change of venue
This is maddening  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Mtnmom on April 30, 2010, 11:24:17 AM
Good morning. I missed the whole thing. Is there someplace to still watch this?
Morning - try here. Not sure the entire video is available yet. The beginning is posted for view
http://www.wftv.com/video/23318107/index.html

Thank you Deenie.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 11:24:21 AM
Bobo still wining about not moving the case.  The local area is full of bloggers that talk abotu the case daily, local media is on the pulse of this case....bla...bla...bla.....

Now he is talking about junk science and air samples from the trunk.  Oakridge lab is not a crime lab, defense has issues with data being turned over that they used to come to conclusions as the defense has no way to verify data and do their own testing .  Defense going to challenge their novel science that is not ready for court especially a death penalty case. 
Here is a novel idea, plead Casey out, and stop this bs  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 11:27:45 AM
The Jar said he will lay prosecutors down in front of the train with cross examination

Bobo would not answer how long defense thought it would take to get KC's testimony at trail. 

The case as it sits today will not be the same case presented in May at trial. 

The Jar said that there is physical endurance needed for trials like this in response to how he felt about working 5.5 days a week.  Defense will be working 18/7 until case is over.

Asking Bobo about language Stan used in the order he wrote to recuse himself.  Bobo would not answer.  Will only do pleadings and arguments in court room (THEN WHY IS ON TV FTLOG??????).  The Jar said some of the things Stan wrote have negatively effected KC's trial. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Scatty on April 30, 2010, 11:29:20 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
04/30/2010           Objection
to Courts Order on Defendants Motion to Disqualify Trial Judge

04/30/2010           Transaction Assessment            15.99
04/30/2010           Counter Payment    Receipt # CR-2010-29218    ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE    (15.99)
04/30/2010           Transaction Assessment            15.00
04/30/2010           Counter Payment    Receipt # CR-2010-29251    ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE    (15.00)




Can someone explain the Objection above? Is it Casey objecting or the state?

I believe this is the Defense's objection to the Court's Order (the order from Judge Strickland, recusing himself and reaming the defense) on the Defense's original motion to disqualify himself. I bet they are whining about his comments. They just can't let anything go, can they? They are despicable!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 11:30:05 AM
OHMYGAWD!  Mason just referred to the case as a SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  said someething about taking this whole SHOW on the road.....meaning change of venue

 ::MonkeyEek::   Dream on Jar.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 11:30:38 AM
Bobo still wining about not moving the case.  The local area is full of bloggers that talk abotu the case daily, local media is on the pulse of this case....bla...bla...bla.....

Now he is talking about junk science and air samples from the trunk.  Oakridge lab is not a crime lab, defense has issues with data being turned over that they used to come to conclusions as the defense has no way to verify data and do their own testing .  Defense going to challenge their novel science that is not ready for court especially a death penalty case. 
Northern in the papers filed by Dream Team aka Andrea Lyon - She wrote in the footnotes of her DP documents that Casey's reputation has been " preemptively tarnished/destroyed" by bloggers, Nancy Grace, Dr. Lillian Glass and other internet media sources. Calling out Gender Bias etc.. basically she is screaming Scarlet Letter. I put up the link a few pages back of her filed court papers.
As if People cannot make up their own minds within the basic facts of the case.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NM on April 30, 2010, 11:33:18 AM
Justice for Caylee  ::MonkeyAngel::
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/caylee/smallpic.jpg)
And NOW there will be  ::MonkeyAngel::
They should enlarge this picture to 8x10 feet and hang it behind the judge during all the court dates.

Oh HAPPY DAY!!!!

Thank you Monkeys for reporting on the hearing today in wonderful Monkey fashion!

Now I will never go to marinaiddave's site. The fact that he even showed up to court and then sat front and center shows he is far to arrogant and/or far to menecing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 11:34:04 AM
The Jar said he will lay prosecutors down in front of the train with cross examination

Bobo would not answer how long defense thought it would take to get KC's testimony at trail. 

The case as it sits today will not be the same case presented in May at trial. 

The Jar said that there is physical endurance needed for trials like this in response to how he felt about working 5.5 days a week.  Defense will be working 18/7 until case is over.

Asking Bobo about language Stan used in the order he wrote to recuse himself.  Bobo would not answer.  Will only do pleadings and arguments in court room (THEN WHY IS ON TV FTLOG??????).  The Jar said some of the things Stan wrote have negatively effected KC's trial. 


 ::MonkeyJnBox::    They remind me of human tubas frantically trying to sound in tune while not knowing the score.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 11:34:19 AM
Conway on now. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 30, 2010, 11:38:41 AM
Bobo and The Jar are on In Session right now.

thanks NR...I heard they were going to be on.....since you have your tin foil hat on I hope you can listen/watch

I think I need to get a nice welder to add an extra layer of lead for my hat before this is over.  I can not believe that the defense had it all planned to go straight from the court room to TV.  Should they not be working on the case rather than their TV skills?
AMEN - with all the work they have to do you would certainly think they would be in an office somewhere and instructions to staff, no phone calls, not interruptions and have breakfast, lunch and dinner brought in.  Geeeesh media money hungry  ::piggy:: 's


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 30, 2010, 11:39:48 AM
Casey was so medicated, I'm surprised she wasn't drooling all over herself.
::MonkeyHaHa::  I think she finally knows "GAME OVER"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 11:39:55 AM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/caseys-defense-mad-about-judge.html


WDBO Local News      
Casey's defense mad about judge's insult-filled motion
By Bob Hazen
@ April 30, 2010 10:54 AM Permalink | Comments (0)

Defense attorneys for Casey Anthony are upset about the insult-filled order signed by Judge Stan Strickland before he stepped down from the case.

In a motion filed today, J. Cheney Mason objected to Strickland's criticism of the defense.

"The judge, in filing his order, chose to utilize that opportunity, even though improvident and innapropriately so, to insult defense counsel and do so by either serious mistaken recollection of the facts or worse," Cheney wrote.

"The defense has labored and, frankly, suffered anxiety over filing this Objection since receipt of the same on the 19th of April. However, in the mean time, many other members of the judiciary, members of the Bar, the media, and the general public have been misinformed regarding the judge's order and the misleading content, as set forth above."

Judge Strickland removed himself from the case after the defense complained about his contacts with a blogger.

-- ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 11:40:22 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
04/30/2010           Objection
to Courts Order on Defendants Motion to Disqualify Trial Judge

04/30/2010           Transaction Assessment            15.99
04/30/2010           Counter Payment    Receipt # CR-2010-29218    ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE    (15.99)
04/30/2010           Transaction Assessment            15.00
04/30/2010           Counter Payment    Receipt # CR-2010-29251    ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE    (15.00)




Can someone explain the Objection above? Is it Casey objecting or the state?

I believe this is the Defense's objection to the Court's Order (the order from Judge Strickland, recusing himself and reaming the defense) on the Defense's original motion to disqualify himself. I bet they are whining about his comments. They just can't let anything go, can they? They are despicable!


They really do not have the sense to come in out of the rain.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 11:41:05 AM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/caseys-defense-mad-about-judge.html
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Casey's defense mad about judge's insult-filled motion
By Bob Hazen @ April 30, 2010 10:54 AM

"In a motion filed today, J. Cheney Mason objected to Strickland's criticism of the defense.
The judge, in filing his order, chose to utilize that opportunity, even though improvident and innapropriately so, to insult defense counsel and do so by either serious mistaken recollection of the facts or worse," Cheney wrote.
Document  http://wdbo.com/common/pdf/orlando/casey_4_30_motion.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 11:42:19 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
04/30/2010           Objection
to Courts Order on Defendants Motion to Disqualify Trial Judge

04/30/2010           Transaction Assessment            15.99
04/30/2010           Counter Payment    Receipt # CR-2010-29218    ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE    (15.99)
04/30/2010           Transaction Assessment            15.00
04/30/2010           Counter Payment    Receipt # CR-2010-29251    ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE    (15.00)




Can someone explain the Objection above? Is it Casey objecting or the state?

I believe this is the Defense's objection to the Court's Order (the order from Judge Strickland, recusing himself and reaming the defense) on the Defense's original motion to disqualify himself. I bet they are whining about his comments. They just can't let anything go, can they? They are despicable!

I never thought of that and I am sure you are correct.  I bet this is from the defense who are objecting to the words that Stan wrote.  Guess someone did not want the public to know his boots were too tight   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Scatty on April 30, 2010, 11:42:51 AM
The Jar said he will lay prosecutors down in front of the train with cross examination

Bobo would not answer how long defense thought it would take to get KC's testimony at trail. 

The case as it sits today will not be the same case presented in May at trial. 

The Jar said that there is physical endurance needed for trials like this in response to how he felt about working 5.5 days a week.  Defense will be working 18/7 until case is over.

Asking Bobo about language Stan used in the order he wrote to recuse himself.  Bobo would not answer.  Will only do pleadings and arguments in court room (THEN WHY IS ON TV FTLOG??????).  The Jar said some of the things Stan wrote have negatively effected KC's trial. 

Re: the bolded part--Exactly!!  :smt045 :smt045 :smt045 By going on tv and talking about this case, they are just proving Judge Strickland's comments to be on the money. And their latest stupid motion objecting to his comments on the court order prove his other point. Nothing JS said would impact on KC's trial, except maybe try to get the defense to start acting in a more professional manner.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on April 30, 2010, 11:45:46 AM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/caseys-defense-mad-about-judge.html


WDBO Local News      
Casey's defense mad about judge's insult-filled motion
By Bob Hazen
@ April 30, 2010 10:54 AM Permalink | Comments (0)

Defense attorneys for Casey Anthony are upset about the insult-filled order signed by Judge Stan Strickland before he stepped down from the case.

In a motion filed today, J. Cheney Mason objected to Strickland's criticism of the defense.

"The judge, in filing his order, chose to utilize that opportunity, even though improvident and innapropriately so, to insult defense counsel and do so by either serious mistaken recollection of the facts or worse," Cheney wrote.

"The defense has labored and, frankly, suffered anxiety over filing this Objection since receipt of the same on the 19th of April. However, in the mean time, many other members of the judiciary, members of the Bar, the media, and the general public have been misinformed regarding the judge's order and the misleading content, as set forth above."

Judge Strickland removed himself from the case after the defense complained about his contacts with a blogger.

-- ::MonkeyNoNo::


What is wrong with him? He's still upset that Strickland didn't agree to "trust" him.
This is very insane.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 11:47:33 AM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/caseys-defense-mad-about-judge.html


WDBO Local News      
Casey's defense mad about judge's insult-filled motion
By Bob Hazen
@ April 30, 2010 10:54 AM Permalink | Comments (0)

Defense attorneys for Casey Anthony are upset about the insult-filled order signed by Judge Stan Strickland before he stepped down from the case.

In a motion filed today, J. Cheney Mason objected to Strickland's criticism of the defense.

"The judge, in filing his order, chose to utilize that opportunity, even though improvident and innapropriately so, to insult defense counsel and do so by either serious mistaken recollection of the facts or worse," Cheney wrote.

iary, members of the Bar, the media, and the general public have been misinformed regarding the judge's order and the misleading content, as set forth above."

Judge Strickland removed himself from the case after the defense complained about his contacts with a blogger.

-- ::MonkeyNoNo::


"The defense has labored and, frankly, suffered anxiety over filing this Objection since receipt of the same on the 19th of April. However, in the mean time, many other members of the judic

Any wonder who wrote this gem?  The "frankly" gives it away. Bozo just can't let any slight go, he has a huge chip on his shoulder.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 11:50:51 AM
Bobo still wining about not moving the case.  The local area is full of bloggers that talk abotu the case daily, local media is on the pulse of this case....bla...bla...bla.....

Now he is talking about junk science and air samples from the trunk.  Oakridge lab is not a crime lab, defense has issues with data being turned over that they used to come to conclusions as the defense has no way to verify data and do their own testing .  Defense going to challenge their novel science that is not ready for court especially a death penalty case. 
Northern in the papers filed by Dream Team aka Andrea Lyon - She wrote in the footnotes of her DP documents that Casey's reputation has been " preemptively tarnished/destroyed" by bloggers, Nancy Grace, Dr. Lillian Glass and other internet media sources. Calling out Gender Bias etc.. basically she is screaming Scarlet Letter. I put up the link a few pages back of her filed court papers.
As if People cannot make up their own minds within the basic facts of the case.   

Thank you Deenie.  I did see it and read it.  I can not even comment on that motion of how woman of privilege are not treated fairly...bla....bla...bla....  I need to calm down before I even get started on that motion as I am grievously offended on how they paint all women with that motion. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 11:54:23 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
04/30/2010           Objection
to Courts Order on Defendants Motion to Disqualify Trial Judge

04/30/2010           Transaction Assessment            15.99
04/30/2010           Counter Payment    Receipt # CR-2010-29218    ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE    (15.99)
04/30/2010           Transaction Assessment            15.00
04/30/2010           Counter Payment    Receipt # CR-2010-29251    ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE    (15.00)




Can someone explain the Objection above? Is it Casey objecting or the state?

I believe this is the Defense's objection to the Court's Order (the order from Judge Strickland, recusing himself and reaming the defense) on the Defense's original motion to disqualify himself. I bet they are whining about his comments. They just can't let anything go, can they? They are despicable!

I never thought of that and I am sure you are correct.  I bet this is from the defense who are objecting to the words that Stan wrote.  Guess someone did not want the public to know his boots were too tight   ::MonkeyDevil::


 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 11:55:42 AM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/caseys-defense-mad-about-judge.html


WDBO Local News      
Casey's defense mad about judge's insult-filled motion
By Bob Hazen
@ April 30, 2010 10:54 AM Permalink | Comments (0)

Defense attorneys for Casey Anthony are upset about the insult-filled order signed by Judge Stan Strickland before he stepped down from the case.

In a motion filed today, J. Cheney Mason objected to Strickland's criticism of the defense.

"The judge, in filing his order, chose to utilize that opportunity, even though improvident and innapropriately so, to insult defense counsel and do so by either serious mistaken recollection of the facts or worse," Cheney wrote.

media, and the general public have been misinformed regarding the judge's order and the misleading content, as set forth above."

Judge Strickland removed himself from the case after the defense complained about his contacts with a blogger.

-- ::MonkeyNoNo::

"The defense has labored and, frankly, suffered anxiety over filing this Objection since receipt of the same on the 19th of April. However, in the mean time, many other members of the judiciary, members of the Bar, the

Any wonder who wrote this gem ?  The "frankly" gives it away. Baez has a huge chip on his shoulder


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 11:57:04 AM
Well, my post got lost in the black hole !! So it's here twice. Sorry   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 11:57:45 AM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/caseys-defense-mad-about-judge.html


WDBO Local News      
Casey's defense mad about judge's insult-filled motion
By Bob Hazen
@ April 30, 2010 10:54 AM Permalink | Comments (0)

Defense attorneys for Casey Anthony are upset about the insult-filled order signed by Judge Stan Strickland before he stepped down from the case.

In a motion filed today, J. Cheney Mason objected to Strickland's criticism of the defense.

"The judge, in filing his order, chose to utilize that opportunity, even though improvident and innapropriately so, to insult defense counsel and do so by either serious mistaken recollection of the facts or worse," Cheney wrote.

"The defense has labored and, frankly, suffered anxiety over filing this Objection since receipt of the same on the 19th of April. However, in the mean time, many other members of the judiciary, members of the Bar, the media, and the general public have been misinformed regarding the judge's order and the misleading content, as set forth above."

Judge Strickland removed himself from the case after the defense complained about his contacts with a blogger.

-- ::MonkeyNoNo::


Wow , sounds like the poor misunderstood defense needs a few valium kitties just to make it through the day with Judge Stan.  So glad Judge Perry will be taking all that anxiety away from them.    ::CowboySmiley::   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 30, 2010, 11:59:57 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
04/30/2010           Objection
to Courts Order on Defendants Motion to Disqualify Trial Judge

04/30/2010           Transaction Assessment            15.99
04/30/2010           Counter Payment    Receipt # CR-2010-29218    ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE    (15.99)
04/30/2010           Transaction Assessment            15.00
04/30/2010           Counter Payment    Receipt # CR-2010-29251    ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE    (15.00)




Can someone explain the Objection above? Is it Casey objecting or the state?

I believe this is the Defense's objection to the Court's Order (the order from Judge Strickland, recusing himself and reaming the defense) on the Defense's original motion to disqualify himself. I bet they are whining about his comments. They just can't let anything go, can they? They are despicable!


They really do not have the sense to come in out of the rain.

Scatty ... you are good!

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 12:04:53 PM
Conway says Perry set the tone for how his courtroom is run and what he expects fromt he lawyers.  Professional demeanour at all times, no exceptions.  Asked about Rosebud waving and saying I love You to Casey.  This is only time they get to see KC, they can not visit her.  They look forward to seeing her want to make sure she is doing OK. 

Asked Conway about the letters.  Conway said Lee and George deny there was any sexual misconduct.  They have no explanation as to why she would write that.  There is no difference with relationship KC has with her parents as any other normal parent child relationship. 

It has been hard for the Rosebuds as they have not been able to see KC. They are anxious and want to know what witnesses have to say to determine what really happened to Caylee. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 12:05:00 PM
I'm sure Judge Strickland won't be losing any sleep over this  ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 12:05:31 PM
Bobo still wining about not moving the case.  The local area is full of bloggers that talk abotu the case daily, local media is on the pulse of this case....bla...bla...bla.....

Now he is talking about junk science and air samples from the trunk.  Oakridge lab is not a crime lab, defense has issues with data being turned over that they used to come to conclusions as the defense has no way to verify data and do their own testing .  Defense going to challenge their novel science that is not ready for court especially a death penalty case. 
Northern in the papers filed by Dream Team aka Andrea Lyon - She wrote in the footnotes of her DP documents that Casey's reputation has been " preemptively tarnished/destroyed" by bloggers, Nancy Grace, Dr. Lillian Glass and other internet media sources. Calling out Gender Bias etc.. basically she is screaming Scarlet Letter. I put up the link a few pages back of her filed court papers.
As if People cannot make up their own minds within the basic facts of the case.   

Thank you Deenie.  I did see it and read it.  I can not even comment on that motion of how woman of privilege are not treated fairly...bla....bla...bla....  I need to calm down before I even get started on that motion as I am grievously offended on how they paint all women with that motion. 
ITA Northern ..and I think my PC can feel my raw energy " kinetic" because I keep losing my firefox ... The Roaring LYON is a Joke. She needs to seriously take a long hard look at her female counters and predecessors. She is doing Women more of an injustice than anything. She doesn't give a Rats Azz about Casey nor CAYLEE... this Case is her Golden Ticket to another Book - written by compilation of efforts by her unpaid Law Students .. "researching the case" She will co-author as Professor.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Scatty on April 30, 2010, 12:07:55 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/caseys-defense-mad-about-judge.html


WDBO Local News      
Casey's defense mad about judge's insult-filled motion
By Bob Hazen
@ April 30, 2010 10:54 AM Permalink | Comments (0)

Defense attorneys for Casey Anthony are upset about the insult-filled order signed by Judge Stan Strickland before he stepped down from the case.

In a motion filed today, J. Cheney Mason objected to Strickland's criticism of the defense.

"The judge, in filing his order, chose to utilize that opportunity, even though improvident and innapropriately so, to insult defense counsel and do so by either serious mistaken recollection of the facts or worse," Cheney wrote.

"The defense has labored and, frankly, suffered anxiety over filing this Objection since receipt of the same on the 19th of April. However, in the mean time, many other members of the judiciary, members of the Bar, the media, and the general public have been misinformed regarding the judge's order and the misleading content, as set forth above."

Judge Strickland removed himself from the case after the defense complained about his contacts with a blogger.

-- ::MonkeyNoNo::


Wow , sounds like the poor misunderstood defense needs a few valium kitties just to make it through the day with Judge Stan.  So glad Judge Perry will be taking all that anxiety away from them.    ::CowboySmiley::   ::MonkeyGavel::

I wish I knew what they hope to accomplish with this latest objection. Is it just to be spiteful? JS has already recused himself. What do they want JP to do? Yell at JS and pat the poor duh-fense team member on the head? Or is this a prelude to try to get JS in more serious trouble? If so--I hope it backfires and JP explodes a firecracker up their collective Heineken.
 :2ukli:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 12:08:05 PM
Good morning. I missed the whole thing. Is there someplace to still watch this?
Morning - try here. Not sure the entire video is available yet. The beginning is posted for view
http://www.wftv.com/video/23318107/index.html
I watched this first part and I don't understand why baez is continually showing kc things from his phone. To me that's akin to his smuggling letters from jail. If he is pulling up msgs from her parents or anyone, it's the same as a phone call or letter. Why does he do this, why does he get away with it?   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 12:09:49 PM
Conway says the Rosebuds are happy with Judge Perry and they were happy with Stan.  They are happy about JP's expectation of professionalism.  Day to day impact of the case on the Rosebuds is a roller coaster.  There are days when they get good news.  When pressed on what good news would be Conway says it would be a message from KC that she loves her parents and misses them through her lawyers.  Rosebuds are not included on the motions and that is hard on the Rosebuds and delays are bad news.  They are thankful JP is keeping on schedule so they know they only have one more year to wait to see what happens to their daughter (guess they have totally forgot about Justice for Caylee)

Rosebuds will get on stand and tell the truth but it is a conflict between what they want to say and what really happened.  They are looking forward to explaining the 911 call. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 12:10:13 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/caseys-defense-mad-about-judge.html
WDBO Local News
Casey's defense mad about judge's insult-filled motion
By Bob Hazen @ April 30, 2010 10:54 AM

"In a motion filed today, J. Cheney Mason objected to Strickland's criticism of the defense.
The judge, in filing his order, chose to utilize that opportunity, even though improvident and innapropriately so, to insult defense counsel and do so by either serious mistaken recollection of the facts or worse," Cheney wrote.
Document  http://wdbo.com/common/pdf/orlando/casey_4_30_motion.pdf

The motion is weak.  And silly.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 30, 2010, 12:10:30 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/caseys-defense-mad-about-judge.html


WDBO Local News      
Casey's defense mad about judge's insult-filled motion
By Bob Hazen
@ April 30, 2010 10:54 AM Permalink | Comments (0)

Defense attorneys for Casey Anthony are upset about the insult-filled order signed by Judge Stan Strickland before he stepped down from the case.

In a motion filed today, J. Cheney Mason objected to Strickland's criticism of the defense.

"The judge, in filing his order, chose to utilize that opportunity, even though improvident and innapropriately so, to insult defense counsel and do so by either serious mistaken recollection of the facts or worse," Cheney wrote.

"The defense has labored and, frankly, suffered anxiety over filing this Objection since receipt of the same on the 19th of April. However, in the mean time, many other members of the judiciary, members of the Bar, the media, and the general public have been misinformed regarding the judge's order and the misleading content, as set forth above."

Judge Strickland removed himself from the case after the defense complained about his contacts with a blogger.

-- ::MonkeyNoNo::


More..........whining..............blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah...............
just like the whiny babies they are.................

GET OVER IT AND GET THE D*MN DEFENSE GOING U STUPID JERKS !!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 12:12:40 PM
I'm sure Judge Strickland won't be losing any sleep over this  ::MonkeyShovel::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  He's prolly laughing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 12:12:52 PM
Conway says the Rosebuds are happy with Judge Perry and they were happy with Stan.  They are happy about JP's expectation of professionalism.  Day to day impact of the case on the Rosebuds is a roller coaster.  There are days when they get good news.  When pressed on what good news would be Conway says it would be a message from KC that she loves her parents and misses them through her lawyers.  Rosebuds are not included on the motions and that is hard on the Rosebuds and delays are bad news.  They are thankful JP is keeping on schedule so they know they only have one more year to wait to see what happens to their daughter (guess they have totally forgot about Justice for Caylee)

Rosebuds will get on stand and tell the truth but it is a conflict between what they want to say and what really happened.  They are looking forward to explaining the 911 call. 

Explaining the 911 call??? What kind of spin will they weave around that?  They really don't give 2 cents about Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 30, 2010, 12:13:27 PM
Conway says Perry set the tone for how his courtroom is run and what he expects fromt he lawyers.  Professional demeanour at all times, no exceptions.  Asked about Rosebud waving and saying I love You to Casey.  This is only time they get to see KC, they can not visit her.  They look forward to seeing her want to make sure she is doing OK. 

Asked Conway about the letters.  Conway said Lee and George deny there was any sexual misconduct.  They have no explanation as to why she would write that.  There is no difference with relationship KC has with her parents as any other normal parent child relationship. 

It has been hard for the Rosebuds as they have not been able to see KC. They are anxious and want to know what witnesses have to say to determine what really happened to Caylee. 
What crust!!  They have not been ABLE to see KC?  They can see her if they want to and if KC wants to but they don't want the visits released, so cry me a river, if they really wanted to see her they would recorded visits or not! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Love2Read on April 30, 2010, 12:14:32 PM
Good Morning Monkeys!  It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood. ::MonkeyCheer4::
Actually, it's getting ready to rain here, but yall know what I'm talkin 'bout.  ::MonkeyWink::

KC was definitely  sedated on something.  I have never seen her sitting that still, not much picking of her clothes and hair.  They all looked stunned.  I don't think Cin has any fingernails left.  I just wish  JP will tell bozo to stay off of tv.  I think it is disgusting that he went on InSession right after the hearing. 

Thanks for all of the links this morning, you monkeys are the BEST! ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 12:14:55 PM
Good morning. I missed the whole thing. Is there someplace to still watch this?
Morning - try here. Not sure the entire video is available yet. The beginning is posted for view
http://www.wftv.com/video/23318107/index.html
I watched this first part and I don't understand why baez is continually showing kc things from his phone. To me that's akin to his smuggling letters from jail. If he is pulling up msgs from her parents or anyone, it's the same as a phone call or letter. Why does he do this, why does he get away with it?   


I agree.  Maybe love notes from Lee?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 30, 2010, 12:16:27 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/caseys-defense-mad-about-judge.html
WDBO Local News
Casey's defense mad about judge's insult-filled motion
By Bob Hazen @ April 30, 2010 10:54 AM

"In a motion filed today, J. Cheney Mason objected to Strickland's criticism of the defense.
The judge, in filing his order, chose to utilize that opportunity, even though improvident and innapropriately so, to insult defense counsel and do so by either serious mistaken recollection of the facts or worse," Cheney wrote.
Document  http://wdbo.com/common/pdf/orlando/casey_4_30_motion.pdf

The ONLY problem I see with what he said/wrote is that it was all the TRUTH and that ENTIRE group is allergic to TRUTH !!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 12:16:36 PM
Conway says Perry set the tone for how his courtroom is run and what he expects fromt he lawyers.  Professional demeanour at all times, no exceptions.  Asked about Rosebud waving and saying I love You to Casey.  This is only time they get to see KC, they can not visit her.  They look forward to seeing her want to make sure she is doing OK. 

Asked Conway about the letters.  Conway said Lee and George deny there was any sexual misconduct.  They have no explanation as to why she would write that.  There is no difference with relationship KC has with her parents as any other normal parent child relationship. 

It has been hard for the Rosebuds as they have not been able to see KC. They are anxious and want to know what witnesses have to say to determine what really happened to Caylee. 
What crust!!  They have not been ABLE to see KC?  They can see her if they want to and if KC wants to but they don't want the visits released, so cry me a river, if they really wanted to see her they would recorded visits or not! 
Yep yep.  Another bozomotion redeaux in the works? Maybe they'll try again with JP to get the visits not recorded,  wastes of time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 12:16:43 PM
Conway says the Rosebuds are happy with Judge Perry and they were happy with Stan.  They are happy about JP's expectation of professionalism.  Day to day impact of the case on the Rosebuds is a roller coaster.  There are days when they get good news.  When pressed on what good news would be Conway says it would be a message from KC that she loves her parents and misses them through her lawyers.  Rosebuds are not included on the motions and that is hard on the Rosebuds and delays are bad news.  They are thankful JP is keeping on schedule so they know they only have one more year to wait to see what happens to their daughter (guess they have totally forgot about Justice for Caylee)

Rosebuds will get on stand and tell the truth but it is a conflict between what they want to say and what really happened.  They are looking forward to explaining the 911 call. 

Explaining the 911 call??? What kind of spin will they weave around that?  They really don't give 2 cents about Caylee.
That should be a real hoot to hear that spin. My eyes tell me by looking at the two of them in court that Karma is catching up to them, they look like he!! and I hope they feel like he!!.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 12:17:26 PM
Conway says the Rosebuds are happy with Judge Perry and they were happy with Stan.  They are happy about JP's expectation of professionalism.  Day to day impact of the case on the Rosebuds is a roller coaster.  There are days when they get good news.  When pressed on what good news would be Conway says it would be a message from KC that she loves her parents and misses them through her lawyers.  Rosebuds are not included on the motions and that is hard on the Rosebuds and delays are bad news.  They are thankful JP is keeping on schedule so they know they only have one more year to wait to see what happens to their daughter (guess they have totally forgot about Justice for Caylee)

Rosebuds will get on stand and tell the truth but it is a conflict between what they want to say and what really happened.  They are looking forward to explaining the 911 call. 

Explaining the 911 call??? What kind of spin will they weave around that?  They really don't give 2 cents about Caylee.

It will probably be something like  "I did not mean to say it smells like there has been a damn dead body in the trunk of the car, I was upset and the words that it smells like there has been a rotten peperoni pizza box in the damn trunk of the car was too long so I just shortened it.  I found out later that it was really a dead squirrel and had noticed that there were not as many squirrels in the area as well.  I am a nurse and know the difference between a body and pepperoni and with the heat in Florida it was pepperoni just like Georgie makes.  Want my chili recipe?  "   ::MonkeyJnBox::   ::monkeywine2::   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 12:20:32 PM
Conway says the Rosebuds are happy with Judge Perry and they were happy with Stan.  They are happy about JP's expectation of professionalism.  Day to day impact of the case on the Rosebuds is a roller coaster.  There are days when they get good news.  When pressed on what good news would be Conway says it would be a message from KC that she loves her parents and misses them through her lawyers.  Rosebuds are not included on the motions and that is hard on the Rosebuds and delays are bad news.  They are thankful JP is keeping on schedule so they know they only have one more year to wait to see what happens to their daughter (guess they have totally forgot about Justice for Caylee)

Rosebuds will get on stand and tell the truth but it is a conflict between what they want to say and what really happened.  They are looking forward to explaining the 911 call. 


"...a conflict between what they want to say and what really happened" ?  Where is the conflict if you are telling the truth????   What a bizarre remark-telling the truth is all that should matter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 12:20:51 PM
Conway says the Rosebuds are happy with Judge Perry and they were happy with Stan.  They are happy about JP's expectation of professionalism.  Day to day impact of the case on the Rosebuds is a roller coaster.  There are days when they get good news.  When pressed on what good news would be Conway says it would be a message from KC that she loves her parents and misses them through her lawyers.  Rosebuds are not included on the motions and that is hard on the Rosebuds and delays are bad news.  They are thankful JP is keeping on schedule so they know they only have one more year to wait to see what happens to their daughter (guess they have totally forgot about Justice for Caylee)

Rosebuds will get on stand and tell the truth but it is a conflict between what they want to say and what really happened.  They are looking forward to explaining the 911 call. 

Explaining the 911 call??? What kind of spin will they weave around that?  They really don't give 2 cents about Caylee.

It will probably be something like  "I did not mean to say it smells like there has been a damn dead body in the trunk of the car, I was upset and the words that it smells like there has been a rotten peperoni pizza box in the damn trunk of the car was too long so I just shortened it.  I found out later that it was really a dead squirrel and had noticed that there were not as many squirrels in the area as well.  I am a nurse and know the difference between a body and pepperoni and with the heat in Florida it was pepperoni just like Georgie makes.  Want my chili recipe?  "   ::MonkeyJnBox::   ::monkeywine2::   ::MonkeyJnBox::
::MonkeyHaHa::   oh, why yes that makes perfect sense..........................................in the crazytown that is known as the Anthonys   ::piggy::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 12:23:00 PM
Conway says the Rosebuds are happy with Judge Perry and they were happy with Stan.  They are happy about JP's expectation of professionalism.  Day to day impact of the case on the Rosebuds is a roller coaster.  There are days when they get good news.  When pressed on what good news would be Conway says it would be a message from KC that she loves her parents and misses them through her lawyers.  Rosebuds are not included on the motions and that is hard on the Rosebuds and delays are bad news.  They are thankful JP is keeping on schedule so they know they only have one more year to wait to see what happens to their daughter (guess they have totally forgot about Justice for Caylee)

Rosebuds will get on stand and tell the truth but it is a conflict between what they want to say and what really happened.  They are looking forward to explaining the 911 call. 

Explaining the 911 call??? What kind of spin will they weave around that?  They really don't give 2 cents about Caylee.

It will probably be something like  "I did not mean to say it smells like there has been a damn dead body in the trunk of the car, I was upset and the words that it smells like there has been a rotten peperoni pizza box in the damn trunk of the car was too long so I just shortened it.  I found out later that it was really a dead squirrel and had noticed that there were not as many squirrels in the area as well.  I am a nurse and know the difference between a body and pepperoni and with the heat in Florida it was pepperoni just like Georgie makes.  Want my chili recipe?  "   ::MonkeyJnBox::   ::monkeywine2::   ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyJnBox::   Anyone for squirrel pizza?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 12:24:51 PM
Conway says Perry set the tone for how his courtroom is run and what he expects fromt he lawyers.  Professional demeanour at all times, no exceptions.  Asked about Rosebud waving and saying I love You to Casey.  This is only time they get to see KC, they can not visit her.  They look forward to seeing her want to make sure she is doing OK. 

Asked Conway about the letters.  Conway said Lee and George deny there was any sexual misconduct.  They have no explanation as to why she would write that.  There is no difference with relationship KC has with her parents as any other normal parent child relationship. 

It has been hard for the Rosebuds as they have not been able to see KC. They are anxious and want to know what witnesses have to say to determine what really happened to Caylee. 
What crust!!  They have not been ABLE to see KC?  They can see her if they want to and if KC wants to but they don't want the visits released, so cry me a river, if they really wanted to see her they would recorded visits or not! 

I was shocked when he said that the relationship KC has with the Rosebuds is no different than any other parent child relationship.  EXCUSE ME?????????  My children have never stolen from me or their grandparents.  They have not accused their father or each other of indecent sexual conduct.  They have not pretended to be working for 2 years when they have been doing who knows what, I could go on and on about how the relationship they have is NOT NORMAL.  WTH????  Anyone else think that the relationship Conway is trying to paint as normal is a crock of too tight cowboy boots?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 12:26:11 PM
Sad to say, the truth never enjoyed a position of honor in that family, IMO.  Poor Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 12:27:27 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/caseys-defense-mad-about-judge.html
WDBO Local News
Casey's defense mad about judge's insult-filled motion
By Bob Hazen @ April 30, 2010 10:54 AM

"In a motion filed today, J. Cheney Mason objected to Strickland's criticism of the defense.
The judge, in filing his order, chose to utilize that opportunity, even though improvident and innapropriately so, to insult defense counsel and do so by either serious mistaken recollection of the facts or worse," Cheney wrote.
Document  http://wdbo.com/common/pdf/orlando/casey_4_30_motion.pdf

thanks trim...mason really has his knickers in a knot....oh well.....DEAL WITH IT!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 12:28:15 PM
It never ceases to amaze me that Conway rolls with the A's everywhere they go and speaks for them. He has essentially been their spokesperson since Nejame dropped them. What atty has the time to babysit two people who really aren't part of this (at the moment). Any other atty. would be billing hr by hr for all this, guess the publicity and exposure that this fiasco gives is so valuable that hanging with them is worth it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 12:28:39 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/caseys-defense-mad-about-judge.html
WDBO Local News
Casey's defense mad about judge's insult-filled motion
By Bob Hazen @ April 30, 2010 10:54 AM

"In a motion filed today, J. Cheney Mason objected to Strickland's criticism of the defense.
The judge, in filing his order, chose to utilize that opportunity, even though improvident and innapropriately so, to insult defense counsel and do so by either serious mistaken recollection of the facts or worse," Cheney wrote.
Document  http://wdbo.com/common/pdf/orlando/casey_4_30_motion.pdf

The ONLY problem I see with what he said/wrote is that it was all the TRUTH and that ENTIRE group is allergic to TRUTH !!
I don't understand the EGO of Cheney ..your going to file a Motion in the 9th District against Judge Strickland (( Who said nothing sustainable - he spoke the Truth/He wrote the truth - the Clown Team better Shape up)) Knowing Judge Perry's Reputation ...its like they are waging war with the 9th District as Personal against the Law Team. Not Casey. Same ol' Gig We are Above the Law ..........honestly how Asinine of them to pull such shots. ARE they in it to Win it or are they in it to Throw it ......All of them are not worth two bits put together.
Talk about Justice. Maybe Cheney/Bobo need psych evaluations. Their Egos are Ergo ..
"The difference between ego and the true self, truth and illusions about life"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 12:31:00 PM
Conway says Perry set the tone for how his courtroom is run and what he expects fromt he lawyers.  Professional demeanour at all times, no exceptions.  Asked about Rosebud waving and saying I love You to Casey.  This is only time they get to see KC, they can not visit her.  They look forward to seeing her want to make sure she is doing OK. 

Asked Conway about the letters.  Conway said Lee and George deny there was any sexual misconduct.  They have no explanation as to why she would write that.  There is no difference with relationship KC has with her parents as any other normal parent child relationship. 

It has been hard for the Rosebuds as they have not been able to see KC. They are anxious and want to know what witnesses have to say to determine what really happened to Caylee. 
What crust!!  They have not been ABLE to see KC?  They can see her if they want to and if KC wants to but they don't want the visits released, so cry me a river, if they really wanted to see her they would recorded visits or not! 

I was shocked when he said that the relationship KC has with the Rosebuds is no different than any other parent child relationship.  EXCUSE ME?????????  My children have never stolen from me or their grandparents.  They have not accused their father or each other of indecent sexual conduct.  They have not pretended to be working for 2 years when they have been doing who knows what, I could go on and on about how the relationship they have is NOT NORMAL.  WTH????  Anyone else think that the relationship Conway is trying to paint as normal is a crock of too tight cowboy boots?
OMG, even at worse times with two teen girls it was nothing like that, what a ridiculous thing to say. They are all living on a parallel universe.  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 12:32:17 PM
Conway says Perry set the tone for how his courtroom is run and what he expects fromt he lawyers.  Professional demeanour at all times, no exceptions.  Asked about Rosebud waving and saying I love You to Casey.  This is only time they get to see KC, they can not visit her.  They look forward to seeing her want to make sure she is doing OK. 

Asked Conway about the letters.  Conway said Lee and George deny there was any sexual misconduct.  They have no explanation as to why she would write that.  There is no difference with relationship KC has with her parents as any other normal parent child relationship. 

It has been hard for the Rosebuds as they have not been able to see KC. They are anxious and want to know what witnesses have to say to determine what really happened to Caylee. 
What crust!!  They have not been ABLE to see KC?  They can see her if they want to and if KC wants to but they don't want the visits released, so cry me a river, if they really wanted to see her they would recorded visits or not! 

I was shocked when he said that the relationship KC has with the Rosebuds is no different than any other parent child relationship.  EXCUSE ME?????????  My children have never stolen from me or their grandparents.  They have not accused their father or each other of indecent sexual conduct.  They have not pretended to be working for 2 years when they have been doing who knows what, I could go on and on about how the relationship they have is NOT NORMAL.  WTH????  Anyone else think that the relationship Conway is trying to paint as normal is a crock of too tight cowboy boots?

Maybe it's normal to Conway ...LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 12:33:44 PM
In Session taking about response by defense on Stan's order.  Not often do you find defense responding to a Judge's order but defense felt they had to and there are 23 points that they filed.  Defense said Stan wrote his order he went into subjective ortation rather than just determined by the legal sufficiency.  Stan took adversarial postion in doing that and they particularly objected to Stan talking about the Marinade Brain episode and Stan wrote it was in the presence of the attorneys in open court and defense cite videos that it happened not in open court but after everyone had left. 
Defense responded to last line Stan wrote about Irony -

"To find irony one only needs to read the court order with footnotes"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 30, 2010, 12:34:00 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/caseys-defense-mad-about-judge.html
WDBO Local News
Casey's defense mad about judge's insult-filled motion
By Bob Hazen @ April 30, 2010 10:54 AM

"In a motion filed today, J. Cheney Mason objected to Strickland's criticism of the defense.
The judge, in filing his order, chose to utilize that opportunity, even though improvident and innapropriately so, to insult defense counsel and do so by either serious mistaken recollection of the facts or worse," Cheney wrote.
Document  http://wdbo.com/common/pdf/orlando/casey_4_30_motion.pdf

thanks trim...mason really has his knickers in a knot....oh well.....DEAL WITH IT!

Yes, thanks.

I just read it and don't get the point.

Just to whine?

 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 12:34:20 PM
It never ceases to amaze me that Conway rolls with the A's everywhere they go and speaks for them. He has essentially been their spokesperson since Nejame dropped them. What atty has the time to babysit two people who really aren't part of this (at the moment). Any other atty. would be billing hr by hr for all this, guess the publicity and exposure that this fiasco gives is so valuable that hanging with them is worth it.

It's so perverse to me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 12:35:49 PM
Conway says Perry set the tone for how his courtroom is run and what he expects fromt he lawyers.  Professional demeanour at all times, no exceptions.  Asked about Rosebud waving and saying I love You to Casey.  This is only time they get to see KC, they can not visit her.  They look forward to seeing her want to make sure she is doing OK. 

Asked Conway about the letters.  Conway said Lee and George deny there was any sexual misconduct.  They have no explanation as to why she would write that.  There is no difference with relationship KC has with her parents as any other normal parent child relationship. 

It has been hard for the Rosebuds as they have not been able to see KC. They are anxious and want to know what witnesses have to say to determine what really happened to Caylee. 
What crust!!  They have not been ABLE to see KC?  They can see her if they want to and if KC wants to but they don't want the visits released, so cry me a river, if they really wanted to see her they would recorded visits or not! 

I was shocked when he said that the relationship KC has with the Rosebuds is no different than any other parent child relationship.  EXCUSE ME?????????  My children have never stolen from me or their grandparents.  They have not accused their father or each other of indecent sexual conduct.  They have not pretended to be working for 2 years when they have been doing who knows what, I could go on and on about how the relationship they have is NOT NORMAL.  WTH????  Anyone else think that the relationship Conway is trying to paint as normal is a crock of too tight cowboy boots?

Maybe it's normal to Conway ...LOL
So normal that they can't trust themselves to visit their beloved daughter in jail, so afraid that they might say things that will be misunderstood by others? "how are you and We love you" are so confusing to others?  Or is it that their princess refuses to see them per her lawyer? Normal?  No way


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 12:36:36 PM
In Session taking about response by defense on Stan's order.  Not often do you find defense responding to a Judge's order but defense felt they had to and there are 23 points that they filed.  Defense said Stan wrote his order he went into subjective ortation rather than just determined by the legal sufficiency.  Stan took adversarial postion in doing that and they particularly objected to Stan talking about the Marinade Brain episode and Stan wrote it was in the presence of the attorneys in open court and defense cite videos that it happened not in open court but after everyone had left. 
Defense responded to last line Stan wrote about Irony -

"To find irony one only needs to read the court order with footnotes"
Even though I found what Strickland wrote to be rather humorous, I will say, and then go hide  ::MonkeyHaHa::, that it was rather sarcastic and probably would have been better to think it, and not write it down. But this is just my opinion.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 12:37:19 PM
Conway says Perry set the tone for how his courtroom is run and what he expects fromt he lawyers.  Professional demeanour at all times, no exceptions.  Asked about Rosebud waving and saying I love You to Casey.  This is only time they get to see KC, they can not visit her.  They look forward to seeing her want to make sure she is doing OK. 

Asked Conway about the letters.  Conway said Lee and George deny there was any sexual misconduct.  They have no explanation as to why she would write that.  There is no difference with relationship KC has with her parents as any other normal parent child relationship. 

It has been hard for the Rosebuds as they have not been able to see KC. They are anxious and want to know what witnesses have to say to determine what really happened to Caylee. 

thanks NR....conway is full of chit


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on April 30, 2010, 12:37:19 PM
Conway says Perry set the tone for how his courtroom is run and what he expects fromt he lawyers.  Professional demeanour at all times, no exceptions.  Asked about Rosebud waving and saying I love You to Casey.  This is only time they get to see KC, they can not visit her.  They look forward to seeing her want to make sure she is doing OK. 

Asked Conway about the letters.  Conway said Lee and George deny there was any sexual misconduct.  They have no explanation as to why she would write that.  There is no difference with relationship KC has with her parents as any other normal parent child relationship. 

It has been hard for the Rosebuds as they have not been able to see KC. They are anxious and want to know what witnesses have to say to determine what really happened to Caylee. 
What crust!!  They have not been ABLE to see KC?  They can see her if they want to and if KC wants to but they don't want the visits released, so cry me a river, if they really wanted to see her they would recorded visits or not! 

I was shocked when he said that the relationship KC has with the Rosebuds is no different than any other parent child relationship.  EXCUSE ME?????????  My children have never stolen from me or their grandparents.  They have not accused their father or each other of indecent sexual conduct.  They have not pretended to be working for 2 years when they have been doing who knows what, I could go on and on about how the relationship they have is NOT NORMAL.  WTH????  Anyone else think that the relationship Conway is trying to paint as normal is a crock of too tight cowboy boots?
::MonkeyHaHa:: Too tight is right


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 12:39:22 PM
I'm sure Judge Strickland won't be losing any sleep over this  ::MonkeyShovel::

and do they think they are getting high 5's from JP on this?  WOW who thought anyone couldn't be as stupid as BOZO............well here's your sign.... BOZO  SR.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 12:41:07 PM
In Session taking about response by defense on Stan's order.  Not often do you find defense responding to a Judge's order but defense felt they had to and there are 23 points that they filed.  Defense said Stan wrote his order he went into subjective ortation rather than just determined by the legal sufficiency.  Stan took adversarial postion in doing that and they particularly objected to Stan talking about the Marinade Brain episode and Stan wrote it was in the presence of the attorneys in open court and defense cite videos that it happened not in open court but after everyone had left. 
Defense responded to last line Stan wrote about Irony -

"To find irony one only needs to read the court order with footnotes"
Even though I found what Strickland wrote to be rather humorous, I will say, and then go hide  ::MonkeyHaHa::, that it was rather sarcastic and probably would have been better to think it, and not write it down. But this is just my opinion.

Not disagreeing with what you feel.  I think it is even worse that the defense attack a judge with the same words that they felt so offended by which compelled them to file after the order was written.  Can't let it go is more like it as they need to get the last word in IMO. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 12:41:33 PM
It never ceases to amaze me that Conway rolls with the A's everywhere they go and speaks for them. He has essentially been their spokesperson since Nejame dropped them. What atty has the time to babysit two people who really aren't part of this (at the moment). Any other atty. would be billing hr by hr for all this, guess the publicity and exposure that this fiasco gives is so valuable that hanging with them is worth it.

It's so perverse to me.
ITA    They've elevated themselves to celebrity status, they must have a spokesperson. He's using it just like the rest of the atty vultures, for his own advancement.  The funny thing is that the entire casey side keeps making broad proclamations but pretty much anyone who knows much about the case knows the're full of chit. It makes them all seem less believable, it's like they stand there all puffed up and think people are admiring their smarts but really I don't think people are at all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 12:42:29 PM
I'm sure Judge Strickland won't be losing any sleep over this  ::MonkeyShovel::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  He's prolly laughing.

I hope so!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 12:43:22 PM
Sad to say, the truth never enjoyed a position of honor in that family, IMO.  Poor Caylee.
Yes,  Ono that is the sad reality. The only shining light within this all is that Caylee has prompted many " Young Women"  " Families" I believe to at least create awareness within their circles. Of what is truly ongoing within their family structure - red flags noticed I hope. That she/Caylee paid with her life due to the consequences of a highly dysfunctional family. 
Caylee is a victim the Entire Anthony Family. Not just Casey. * I am being very kind with my thoughts of them ... at this moment. " For Caylee"

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/cayleeourblessedangel-2.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 12:45:56 PM
In Session taking about response by defense on Stan's order.  Not often do you find defense responding to a Judge's order but defense felt they had to and there are 23 points that they filed.  Defense said Stan wrote his order he went into subjective ortation rather than just determined by the legal sufficiency.  Stan took adversarial postion in doing that and they particularly objected to Stan talking about the Marinade Brain episode and Stan wrote it was in the presence of the attorneys in open court and defense cite videos that it happened not in open court but after everyone had left. 
Defense responded to last line Stan wrote about Irony -

"To find irony one only needs to read the court order with footnotes"
Even though I found what Strickland wrote to be rather humorous, I will say, and then go hide  ::MonkeyHaHa::, that it was rather sarcastic and probably would have been better to think it, and not write it down. But this is just my opinion.

Not disagreeing with what you feel.  I think it is even worse that the defense attack a judge with the same words that they felt so offended by which compelled them to file after the order was written.  Can't let it go is more like it as they need to get the last word in IMO. 
This tit for tat mentality has just really gotten to me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 12:46:09 PM
It never ceases to amaze me that Conway rolls with the A's everywhere they go and speaks for them. He has essentially been their spokesperson since Nejame dropped them. What atty has the time to babysit two people who really aren't part of this (at the moment). Any other atty. would be billing hr by hr for all this, guess the publicity and exposure that this fiasco gives is so valuable that hanging with them is worth it.

It's so perverse to me.
ITA    They've elevated themselves to celebrity status, they must have a spokesperson. He's using it just like the rest of the atty vultures, for his own advancement.  The funny thing is that the entire casey side keeps making broad proclamations but pretty much anyone who knows much about the case knows the're full of chit. It makes them all seem less believable, it's like they stand there all puffed up and think people are admiring their smarts but really I don't think people are at all.

They're their own worst enemies which I think is quite lovely!    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 12:49:21 PM
In Session taking about response by defense on Stan's order.  Not often do you find defense responding to a Judge's order but defense felt they had to and there are 23 points that they filed.  Defense said Stan wrote his order he went into subjective ortation rather than just determined by the legal sufficiency.  Stan took adversarial postion in doing that and they particularly objected to Stan talking about the Marinade Brain episode and Stan wrote it was in the presence of the attorneys in open court and defense cite videos that it happened not in open court but after everyone had left. 
Defense responded to last line Stan wrote about Irony -

"To find irony one only needs to read the court order with footnotes"
Even though I found what Strickland wrote to be rather humorous, I will say, and then go hide  ::MonkeyHaHa::, that it was rather sarcastic and probably would have been better to think it, and not write it down. But this is just my opinion.

Not disagreeing with what you feel.  I think it is even worse that the defense attack a judge with the same words that they felt so offended by which compelled them to file after the order was written.  Can't let it go is more like it as they need to get the last word in IMO. 
This tit for tat mentality has just really gotten to me.

IMO, when a lawyer acts this way he realizes he's on the losing side.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 12:52:29 PM
Judge Moves Anthony Case Toward Trial
Perry Expects Trial To Last 4 To 6 Weeks

in the case against Casey Anthony wasted no time getting down to business on Friday.

ORLANDO, FLa - The new judge In the next two weeks, Judge Belvin Perry said he plans to address most of the outstanding motions and issues in the case. He also sent a strong signal about where the murder trial will be held.

Perry said he plans to decide the defense team's budget, any death penalty challenges and a request to have the trial moved in just weeks.

Perry took the bench on Friday morning and assumed firm control of the case.

With lawyers on both sides displaying their best behavior, and Casey Anthony mostly stone-faced, Perry made his first order of business setting the defense team's budget hearing for Thursday.

During the following week, he'll rule on the big question about where the murder trial will be held.

Because of cost concerns, the signal he sent on Friday was that it would remain in Orange County.

Perry said he wanted to move the start date of the trial up, if possible, but he reluctantly kept it as scheduled on May 9, 2011.

Perry said he plans to keep things moving and promised status hearings every 45 days to make sure everybody is on track. He even offered to have the Orange County Sheriff's Office help make sure witnesses scheduled for depositions make it there with no excuses.

One lighthearted moment came when prosecutor Linda Drane Burdick told the judge she had a conflict with one of his hearing dates because she was slated for jury duty.

"You may be excused," Perry said.

Anthony's defense team also filed a motion objecting to Judge Stan Strickland's comments when he took himself off the case.

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/23317820/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 12:54:06 PM
Casey's defense mad about judge's insult-filled motion

Defense attorneys for Casey Anthony are upset about the insult-filled order signed by Judge Stan Strickland before he stepped down from the case.

In a motion filed today, J. Cheney Mason objected to Strickland's criticism of the defense.

"The judge, in filing his order, chose to utilize that opportunity, even though improvident and innapropriately so, to insult defense counsel and do so by either serious mistaken recollection of the facts or worse," Cheney wrote.

"The defense has labored and, frankly, suffered anxiety over filing this Objection since receipt of the same on the 19th of April. However, in the mean time, many other members of the judiciary, members of the Bar, the media, and the general public have been misinformed regarding the judge's order and the misleading content, as set forth above."

Judge Strickland removed himself from the case after the defense complained about his contacts with a blogger.

http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/caseys-defense-mad-about-judge.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 12:56:59 PM
Conway says the Rosebuds are happy with Judge Perry and they were happy with Stan.  They are happy about PJ's expectation of professionalism.  Day to day impact of the case on the Rosebuds is a roller coaster.  There are days when they get good news.  When pressed on what good news would be Conway says it would be a message from KC that she loves her parents and misses them through her lawyers.  Rosebuds are not included on the motions and that is hard on the Rosebuds and delays are bad news.  They are thankful JP is keeping on schedule so they know they only have one more year to wait to see what happens to their daughter (guess they have totally forgot about Justice for Caylee)

Rosebuds will get on stand and tell the truth but it is a conflict between what they want to say and what really happened.  They are looking forward to explaining the 911 call. 

 They have not told the truth so many times, what would make anyone think they will tell the truth on the stand?  Which truth? The real truth or the truth they want people to believe?   , they want to say KC was a good mother....should get a mother of the year award...zanny kidnapped and killed caylee, if it really is Caylee's remains....but we are still looking for a live Caylee (cause that's the only way we can collect tax free money) .what really happened is she murdered her daughter ...........................and y'all covered for her.....


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Post by: Green Eyes on April 30, 2010, 12:59:23 PM
In Session taking about response by defense on Stan's order.  Not often do you find defense responding to a Judge's order but defense felt they had to and there are 23 points that they filed.  Defense said Stan wrote his order he went into subjective ortation rather than just determined by the legal sufficiency.  Stan took adversarial postion in doing that and they particularly objected to Stan talking about the Marinade Brain episode and Stan wrote it was in the presence of the attorneys in open court and defense cite videos that it happened not in open court but after everyone had left. 
Defense responded to last line Stan wrote about Irony -

"To find irony one only needs to read the court order with footnotes"
Even though I found what Strickland wrote to be rather humorous, I will say, and then go hide  ::MonkeyHaHa::, that it was rather sarcastic and probably would have been better to think it, and not write it down. But this is just my opinion.

It might have been better left unwritten as you said. But after all the whining  this defense team has done and all the name calling they have put out there. From Baez to Lyons and the A's to me it's the pot calling the kettle black. It's okay we can do it but no one else is can. They still think they are above the law. IMO


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Post by: Miki Monkey on April 30, 2010, 01:00:57 PM
Apart from a couple of mentions sneeringly about Judge Strickland and Mr Nejame, I thought Bozo was going to get though the whole thing without shooting himself in the foot. I was wrong, he then decided it was about time to correct the judge on his pronunciation of one of his duh!fense cronies name.

This man has to have the last word and he is not able to just leave any scene without taking a potshot at someone, I guess he feels it makes him look in control. Alienate the Judge why don't you...go shoot yourself in the other foot...oh! wait you already did that! ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 01:05:39 PM
In Session taking about response by defense on Stan's order.  Not often do you find defense responding to a Judge's order but defense felt they had to and there are 23 points that they filed.  Defense said Stan wrote his order he went into subjective ortation rather than just determined by the legal sufficiency.  Stan took adversarial postion in doing that and they particularly objected to Stan talking about the Marinade Brain episode and Stan wrote it was in the presence of the attorneys in open court and defense cite videos that it happened not in open court but after everyone had left. 
Defense responded to last line Stan wrote about Irony -

"To find irony one only needs to read the court order with footnotes"
Even though I found what Strickland wrote to be rather humorous, I will say, and then go hide  ::MonkeyHaHa::, that it was rather sarcastic and probably would have been better to think it, and not write it down. But this is just my opinion.

It might have been better left unwritten as you said. But after all the whining  this defense team has done and all the name calling they have put out there. From Baez to Lyons and the A's to me it's the pot calling the kettle black. It's okay we can do it but no one else is can. They still think they are above the law. IMO
After all the crap the judge went through with this bunch I can't blame him for what he said, just would have been better not to and stoop too their level, but he probably just couldn't take it anymore.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 01:06:29 PM
Apart from a couple of mentions sneeringly about Judge Strickland and Mr Nejame, I thought Bozo was going to get though the whole thing without shooting himself in the foot. I was wrong, he then decided it was about time to correct the judge on his pronunciation of one of his duh!fense cronies name.

This man has to have the last word and he is not able to just leave any scene without taking a potshot at someone, I guess he feels it makes him look in control. Alienate the Judge why don't you...go shoot yourself in the other foot...oh! wait you already did that! ::MonkeyCool::
And not a good move to alienate this judge  ::MonkeyEek::


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Post by: N2WISHN on April 30, 2010, 01:08:30 PM
It never ceases to amaze me that Conway rolls with the A's everywhere they go and speaks for them. He has essentially been their spokesperson since Nejame dropped them. What atty has the time to babysit two people who really aren't part of this (at the moment). Any other atty. would be billing hr by hr for all this, guess the publicity and exposure that this fiasco gives is so valuable that hanging with them is worth it.

It's so perverse to me.


Add to that the fact that BC has out and out lied about this case on more than one occasion and on national TV to boot. That was a stunner (not stunning) and cemented my opinion of him. He doesn’t deserve to have a career in the legal field. He suits his clients perfectly as he is as completely disgusting, dishonest and amoral as they are……


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Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 01:10:16 PM
Casey Anthony: No-nonsense Judge Belvin Perry wows reporters

Chief Judge Belvin Perry won favorable reviews for the way he guided a hearing this morning in the Casey Anthony case.

Perry is the new judge in the high-profile case, and his style at the Anthony hearing  was the top story on noon newscasts.

WKMG-Channel 6’s Tony Pipitone said, “He runs a no-nonsense court. The decorum was impeccable. Everyone stood when they were speaking. They addressed the judge. They didn’t address each other. It was like they were all back at law school trying to act like young lawyers.”

WKMG anchor Erick Weber added, “Good stuff.” Which I took as a compliment for Perry and Pipitone.

WESH-Channel 2 anchor Syan Rhodes said, “Judge Perry set a whole different right from the start.”


WESH’s Bob Kealing agreed. ”If  you blinked once during this 45-minute hearing, chances are you missed the judge scheduling something,” Kealing said.

WFTV-Channel 9 anchor Vanessa Echols saw “a different tone in the courtroom.”

“Absolutely,” WFTV’s Daralene Jones said outside the Orange County Courthouse. “Chief Judge Belvin Perry Jr. made it clear he is ready to get this show on the road, and he wants it to happen right here.”

Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

On WKMG, Pipitone said that Perry “made clear one way or another the actual trial will be held here in Orange County” and that the jury will be selected elsewhere for a six- to nine-week trial starting in May 2011. And the public may not know which county the jury will come from until days before the trial begins, Pipitone said.

Where will the jury come from? Pipitone explained that the county would need to be one that could accommodate the crush of media and one with similar demographics to Orange County.

WFTV’s Jones noted that when Perry brought up the possible change of venue, Cindy Anthony smiled. Jones said that Perry “made it clear that it clear he prefers to bring them [the jurors] in from another county and keep the trial here in his courtroom because it will be too expensive and inconvenient to house both legal teams and hundreds of witnesses someplace else for two months.”

Later WFTV anchor Barbara West said, “It [the trial] will be held here in Orange County.”

WESH anchor Jason Guy said that Perry “sent a strong signal about where this murder trial will be held.”

Jones noted that Perry was firm on the defense meeting about court costs for indigent defendant Anthony. Perry said that a meeting on this issue “needs to be done like yesterday.”

Defense attorney Jose Baez was seen on WFTV saying: “We love the knowledge that Judge Perry brings to the bench.”

Yeah, a lot of people love Perry at first glance.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/casey-anthony-no-nonsense-judge-belvin-perry-wows-reporters.html


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Post by: Curly on April 30, 2010, 01:10:36 PM
Got kicked out of the cage.
I don't quite see what's going to be accomplished by their objection to Strickland's response to their motion for recusal.
Are they expecting an apology?
I don't blame JS one bit for the sarcasm in his response and it apparently it hit a nerve. Too freaking bad, Bozo and Mason.


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Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 01:11:53 PM
Casey Anthony trial could take 4 to 7 weeks

ORLANDO - Jurors eventually chosen to decide the fate of Casey Anthony, the Florida mother charged with killing her toddler in 2008, could be sequestered for a trial lasting several weeks.

Circuit Judge Belvin Perry offered some details Friday on what jurors might expect as he held the first pretrial hearing since taking over the murder case. Another judge removed himself from the case earlier this month at the request of Anthony's defense attorneys.

A trial scheduled to begin in May 2011 is expected to last between four and six weeks. Another week will be needed for the sentencing phase if there's a conviction, according to authorities.

Anthony has pleaded not guilty to first-degree murder and has said a baby sitter kidnapped her daughter, Caylee. The 2-year-old girl disappeared in June 2008, and her remains were discovered six months later in woods near the house where she lived with her mother and grandparents.

If the judge grants a request by Anthony's attorneys to change the location of the trial, Perry said he likely will select the jury from another part of Florida and bring jurors back to Orlando for the trial to save money.

Perry said it would be cheaper to house the jurors and alternates in an Orlando hotel rather than pay for the lodging of prosecutors, defense attorneys and as many as 200 witnesses in another city.

The judge also said he may sequester the jurors and not let them have any contact with friends and relatives, televisions or newspapers during the trial. If he sequesters the jury, he likely will conduct the trial on weekdays and some weekend days to give jurors something to occupy their time.

"It is no secret that this case has received widespread publicity," Perry said. "The only way … to make sure that they are no infected or polluted during this proceeding is to sequester them."


http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/apr/30/casey-anthony-trial-could-take-4-6-weeks/


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Post by: Brandi on April 30, 2010, 01:14:01 PM
Apart from a couple of mentions sneeringly about Judge Strickland and Mr Nejame, I thought Bozo was going to get though the whole thing without shooting himself in the foot. I was wrong, he then decided it was about time to correct the judge on his pronunciation of one of his duh!fense cronies name.

This man has to have the last word and he is not able to just leave any scene without taking a potshot at someone, I guess he feels it makes him look in control. Alienate the Judge why don't you...go shoot yourself in the other foot...oh! wait you already did that! ::MonkeyCool::

 ::rhino::


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Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 01:14:18 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html


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Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 01:15:04 PM
In Session taking about response by defense on Stan's order.  Not often do you find defense responding to a Judge's order but defense felt they had to and there are 23 points that they filed.  Defense said Stan wrote his order he went into subjective ortation rather than just determined by the legal sufficiency.  Stan took adversarial postion in doing that and they particularly objected to Stan talking about the Marinade Brain episode and Stan wrote it was in the presence of the attorneys in open court and defense cite videos that it happened not in open court but after everyone had left. 
Defense responded to last line Stan wrote about Irony -

"To find irony one only needs to read the court order with footnotes"
Even though I found what Strickland wrote to be rather humorous, I will say, and then go hide  ::MonkeyHaHa::, that it was rather sarcastic and probably would have been better to think it, and not write it down. But this is just my opinion.

It might have been better left unwritten as you said. But after all the whining  this defense team has done and all the name calling they have put out there. From Baez to Lyons and the A's to me it's the pot calling the kettle black. It's okay we can do it but no one else is can. They still think they are above the law. IMO
After all the crap the judge went through with this bunch I can't blame him for what he said, just would have been better not to and stoop too their level, but he probably just couldn't take it anymore.

I think Judge Strickland put them in the proper places with panache.  They deserved it.  IMO, from the very beginning,  the lack of due respect for the Court has been painfully obvious.  Baez acts as though he is on the same footing as the Court, IMO, and today he did it again.  IMO, he doesn't seem to know [ or care ] that the Court is always shown respect---no matter what.  Judges do not favor disrepect.


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Post by: Curly on April 30, 2010, 01:15:22 PM
The defense has suggested Palm Beach and Dade counties and the state doesn't want them to have any input on what counties should be considered.
I guess they'll have to go North in that case.


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Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 01:15:25 PM
Attorney Jose Baez talked to WFTV after Casey Anthony's Hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320409/index.html


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Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 01:16:27 PM
**their**


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Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 01:17:09 PM
COURT HEARING ON 4/30:

Part 1
http://www.wftv.com/video/23318770/index.html

Part 2
http://www.wftv.com/video/23319255/index.html


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 01:18:10 PM
Thank-you for all the articles, George and Cindy just can't shut up.


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Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 01:18:31 PM
CASEY IN COURT:

See Images
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/23318188/detail.html

 Raw Video
http://www.wftv.com/video/23318107/index.html


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Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 01:19:03 PM
Sequestered jurors.........this will severely limit the persons available to serve, especially since an employer is not required to pay you.

Must my employer pay me while I am on jury duty?
A: Your employer is not required to pay you while on jury duty; however, employers are prohibited by law from firing an employee for serving as a juror.)

   Wouldn't it be ironic if indeed, the jury was made up primarily of the 'blue hairs' LyonS has such distaste for.

this is an interesting site for anyone who has not served on a jury.

http://americanjuror.org/trial.htm


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Post by: Miki Monkey on April 30, 2010, 01:19:13 PM
I don't believe I have ever witnessed such a juvenile display from a group of supposed professionals, they have been stomping their collective feet when things don't go their way, they write Bozomotions that are the laughing stock of lawyers everywhere, they accidentally get an obviously soft judge kicked off the case in favor of a judge not averse to imposing the DP and to top it all off they have the gall to be offended by his honest response. I can hear Bozo now saying "yeah, I meant to get the judge kicked off the case" pfft...everyone knows he would have to be insane to want that for his client.

I think I see an "inadequate representation" down the road somewhere.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on April 30, 2010, 01:19:26 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

Wow! George and Cindy are suddenly camera shy?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 01:28:29 PM
Sequestered jurors.........this will severely limit the persons available to serve, especially since an employer is not required to pay you.

Must my employer pay me while I am on jury duty?
A: Your employer is not required to pay you while on jury duty; however, employers are prohibited by law from firing an employee for serving as a juror.)

   Wouldn't it be ironic if indeed, the jury was made up primarily of the 'blue hairs' LyonS has such distaste for.

this is an interesting site for anyone who has not served on a jury.

http://americanjuror.org/trial.htm
It will, and there will be "blue hairs" on that jury for sure. And people that perhaps have lost their jobs, and then you will have the ones that are trying to get on so they can write a book later. Jury selection will take quite awhile I would think.


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Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 01:28:32 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: CinCin was so respectful she wore thongs & a muu muu;  George is back with the wheel chair schitck.   They're shook.


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Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 01:28:53 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

these are the last people in the world who should talk about respect in the court room!!


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 01:29:49 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: CinCin was so respectful she wore thongs & a muu muu;  George is back with the wheel chair schitck.   They're shook.
OMG, for a minute I thought you were talking about her underwear, until it dawned on me you were talking about her sandals  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyDance::


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Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 01:30:08 PM
Apart from a couple of mentions sneeringly about Judge Strickland and Mr Nejame, I thought Bozo was going to get though the whole thing without shooting himself in the foot. I was wrong, he then decided it was about time to correct the judge on his pronunciation of one of his duh!fense cronies name.

This man has to have the last word and he is not able to just leave any scene without taking a potshot at someone, I guess he feels it makes him look in control. Alienate the Judge why don't you...go shoot yourself in the other foot...oh! wait you already did that! ::MonkeyCool::
And not a good move to alienate this judge  ::MonkeyEek::

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyDevil::


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Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 01:30:11 PM
Judge Perry & Monies paid out for this Case/Trial Serious Business

State of Florida

FY2011 State Budget

Florida is in the midst of determining its budget for FY2011 and the Florida State Legislature is struggling to plug a revenue shortfall of $3.2 billion and agree on a budget by the deadline of April 30, 2010, when it must go to Gov. Charlie Crist.[1] By a 74-44 vote along party lines, the Florida House sent its budget plan to the Senate on April 1, 2010.[1] As of April 25, 2010, five days from the adjournment deadline, the two chambers remained divided over major issues, including a House proposal to cut state worker payroll costs by 3 percent because state employees' base pay has not increased in four years.[2]
The House budget is bolstered by $2.4 billion in federal stimulus money, one third of which is allocated to public schools, but the House budget lowers per-pupil public school spending by less than 1 percent — the first such decrease in five years.[1]
 
Link: http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/Florida_state_budget


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Post by: Green Eyes on April 30, 2010, 01:32:32 PM
Casey Anthony: No-nonsense Judge Belvin Perry wows reporters

Chief Judge Belvin Perry won favorable reviews for the way he guided a hearing this morning in the Casey Anthony case.

On WKMG, Pipitone said that Perry “made clear one way or another the actual trial will be held here in Orange County” and that the jury will be selected elsewhere for a six- to nine-week trial starting in May 2011. And the public may not know which county the jury will come from until days before the trial begins, Pipitone said.


WFTV’s Jones noted that when Perry brought up the possible change of venue, Cindy Anthony smiled. Jones said that Perry “made it clear that it clear he prefers to bring them [the jurors] in from another county and keep the trial here in his courtroom because it will be too expensive and inconvenient to house both legal teams and hundreds of witnesses someplace else for two months.”

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/casey-anthony-no-nonsense-judge-belvin-perry-wows-reporters.html

Did you all get the feeling the defense really thought they could just pick where they wanted the trail to be?  And when ask about sequestering the jurors that the defense didn't want that. Why not? With all their whining about the media and us nasty bloggers calling them names etc. Why wouldn't you want the jurors to be sequestered as not to be subjected to all that.  All they complaining about the media coverage of Case, they are the ones going TV shows, talking to the media every chance they get about the case.  I got the feeling the judge is going to keep it there in Orange Country rather than Miami where Baez and team what it. IMO The only reason there is it's a more liberal area than central Florida.


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Post by: akmom on April 30, 2010, 01:32:33 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: CinCin was so respectful she wore thongs & a muu muu;  George is back with the wheel chair schitck.   They're shook.

You have xray vision? ::MonkeyDevil::......oh.....that kind of thongs


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Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 01:34:04 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: CinCin was so respectful she wore thongs & a muu muu;  George is back with the wheel chair schitck.   They're shook.
OMG, for a minute I thought you were talking about her underwear, until it dawned on me you were talking about her sandals  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: I did too.....I thought she must have been caught pulling on a wedgie ::MonkeyDevil::  sorry it's the meds! 


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 01:36:43 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: CinCin was so respectful she wore thongs & a muu muu;  George is back with the wheel chair schitck.   They're shook.
OMG, for a minute I thought you were talking about her underwear, until it dawned on me you were talking about her sandals  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: I did too.....I thought she must have been caught pulling on a wedgie ::MonkeyDevil::  sorry it's the meds! 
Hope you are feeling better  ::MonkeyAngel::  I always say flip flops so I got thrown for a minute.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2010, 01:38:55 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: CinCin was so respectful she wore thongs & a muu muu;  George is back with the wheel chair schitck.   They're shook.

I can not get any of these videos to play in my Windows 7.  Anyone have any advice that has been through this ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 01:38:57 PM
Attorney Jose Baez talked to WFTV after Casey Anthony's Hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320409/index.html

Kudos Kathi!!    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 01:39:51 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: CinCin was so respectful she wore thongs & a muu muu;  George is back with the wheel chair schitck.   They're shook.
OMG, for a minute I thought you were talking about her underwear, until it dawned on me you were talking about her sandals  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyDance::


 ::MonkeyDevil::


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Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 01:42:10 PM
A Tribute to Bahyez ..........


http://www.youtube.com/v/DhrfhjLd9e4&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0
::MonkeyDevil::


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 01:42:42 PM
I loved the part when Linda said she had jury duty on one of the days the judge set for a hearing, and he said you are excused  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 01:43:36 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: CinCin was so respectful she wore thongs & a muu muu;  George is back with the wheel chair schitck.   They're shook.

You have xray vision? ::MonkeyDevil::......oh.....that kind of thongs


 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Yeah ... she wore two pair.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 01:46:59 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: CinCin was so respectful she wore thongs & a muu muu;  George is back with the wheel chair schitck.   They're shook.

I can not get any of these videos to play in my Windows 7.  Anyone have any advice that has been through this ?
Northern if your using Firefox - you may have to download " Flash player" and reboot
I don't know anything about 7 " I have Vista" - yet I know when my " Flash is not working" Videos will not play. I have to either reload Flash or download flash.
http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/


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Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 01:47:09 PM
I saw when sin-cin waved at kc, but I didn't notice daddykins trying to get her attention...........ummmmm perhaps he is upset because of the letters........... ::MonkeyWink::


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Post by: tupelohoney on April 30, 2010, 01:48:03 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

LOL  Cindy says court was much more respectful today with Judge Perry!   She has no idea what respect means.  She was one who showed the most disrespect in SS's courtroom.  Surprisingly.....These people can keep on turning my stomach.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 01:51:35 PM
I saw when sin-cin waved at kc, but I didn't notice daddykins trying to get her attention...........ummmmm perhaps he is upset because of the letters........... ::MonkeyWink::
If someone wrote something about me like Casey wrote about her dad and brother, I wouldn't show my face whether true or not, I would be too ashamed. Actually he looked rather angry every time the camera showed him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 01:52:41 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

LOL  Cindy says court was much more respectful today with Judge Perry!   She has no idea what respect means.  She was one who showed the most disrespect in SS's courtroom.  Surprisingly.....These people can keep on turning my stomach.
The whole clan wouldn't know respect if it jumped up and bit them in the azz.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 01:54:07 PM
I don't believe I have ever witnessed such a juvenile display from a group of supposed professionals, they have been stomping their collective feet when things don't go their way, they write Bozomotions that are the laughing stock of lawyers everywhere, they accidentally get an obviously soft judge kicked off the case in favor of a judge not averse to imposing the DP and to top it all off they have the gall to be offended by his honest response. I can hear Bozo now saying "yeah, I meant to get the judge kicked off the case" pfft...everyone knows he would have to be insane to want that for his client.

I think I see an "inadequate representation" down the road somewhere.  ::MonkeyMad::
Miki  I think you're right. With baez at the lead, IMO it's  a sure bet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 01:57:12 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

LOL  Cindy says court was much more respectful today with Judge Perry!   She has no idea what respect means.  She was one who showed the most disrespect in SS's courtroom.  Surprisingly.....These people can keep on turning my stomach.

It's real work fighting off the nausea!;   Jar looks like he has high blood pressure;  Sequestered jury brought in from Tampa, P'cola, or Tallahassee---venue Orlando is my bet. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 01:59:33 PM
Bring in a jury fron The Villages ...    ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 02:00:43 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

LOL  Cindy says court was much more respectful today with Judge Perry!   She has no idea what respect means.  She was one who showed the most disrespect in SS's courtroom.  Surprisingly.....These people can keep on turning my stomach.

It's real work fighting off the nausea!;   Jar looks like he has high blood pressure;  Sequestered jury brought in from Tampa, P'cola, or Tallahassee---venue Orlando is my bet. 
::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm not clear on the demographics........why does that play into jury selection?   Demographics meaning ethnicity ?  Anyone know?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 02:10:05 PM
Bring in a jury fron The Villages ...    ::MonkeyDevil::
Heck yes  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 30, 2010, 02:17:00 PM
Omg.

I am dying.


I will bet $100 bucks Mason has a rash.

Lyon not even paying attention.

Ashton says one day for the States Presentation for a penalty phase vs. a week for the defense.

Lawdy.

(sound of whip cracking)

 ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 30, 2010, 02:18:35 PM
Omg.

I am dying.


I will bet $100 bucks Mason has a rash.

Lyon not even paying attention.

Ashton says one day for the States Presentation for a penalty phase vs. a week for the defense.

Lawdy.

(sound of whip cracking)
The smell of pleading Casey out is in the air

Did you see that smirky smile on Bahyaz's face when AL wasn't on the other end and he said we stand by 5 days.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 30, 2010, 02:19:41 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image315.png)

Caught Cindy for one second without her fist in her mouth, but she sure is slinking down in that seat. Like a kid in school who did not do her homework, hoping the teacher does not call on her. LOL

Yes, very nice to see court run the way it should be. With respect.

Agree!!  Would love to have been a fly on the wall, listening to whatever lecture was delivered by whomever, to have gotten them all into this mode of respect.   ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 30, 2010, 02:21:08 PM
    I don't know about ya'll, but I have a new love in MY life.   ::MonkeyKiss::  I loves me Judge Perry!!!!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::MonkeyGavel::  Hammer Time!

And...we're NOT talking Cindy's hammer..... ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 02:22:53 PM
Sorry for the O/T .... but thread is started for Our " Boo Monkey" ..her Birthday yesterday 4/29 -

shhh tell everyone ......... Thank U. She Joined SM for one reason
 Justice For Caylee  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 30, 2010, 02:31:37 PM
Before this case is over, CinCin is going to blurt something out and cause a scene, IMO.  She just cannot help it.
Casey is really " tuned out" isn't she...she looks as though she is a mannequin. OR she is going to stop breathing ... at any moment ::MonkeyEek::



I think it's dawned on her she is in serious trouble.

I think she has realized that her parents can't help her and her attorneys can't do diddly for her. I have always believed the BOZO blew smoke up her nose making her believe he could get her off from the beginning and now the CRUNCH is here, she SEES her future.

I have a slightly different take on KC...(I'm jaded)....I think she we TOLD to keep a poker face, especially this first time in front of a new judge.  Also, AL was not there to do the huggy thing...that was helpful for the defencse. I believe a stone-look is easy for KC because she's such a sociopath.  I don't think she's scared YET and I don't think she will be until the very end...when the Judge orders a death sentence.  THEN she will be scared!  Until then...I think KC will be the ornery, obnoxious, lying self she really is inside.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 02:33:53 PM
Before this case is over, CinCin is going to blurt something out and cause a scene, IMO.  She just cannot help it.
Casey is really " tuned out" isn't she...she looks as though she is a mannequin. OR she is going to stop breathing ... at any moment ::MonkeyEek::



I think it's dawned on her she is in serious trouble.

I think she has realized that her parents can't help her and her attorneys can't do diddly for her. I have always believed the BOZO blew smoke up her nose making her believe he could get her off from the beginning and now the CRUNCH is here, she SEES her future.

I have a slightly different take on KC...(I'm jaded)....I think she we TOLD to keep a poker face, especially this first time in front of a new judge.  Also, AL was not there to do the huggy thing...that was helpful for the defencse. I believe a stone-look is easy for KC because she's such a sociopath.  I don't think she's scared YET and I don't think she will be until the very end...when the Judge orders a death sentence.  THEN she will be scared!  Until then...I think KC will be the ornery, obnoxious, lying self she really is inside.



All of the above + medicated IMO      Her tics and compulsive grooming were almost nil today, I think she would need meds to overcome this??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 30, 2010, 02:35:32 PM
I can't help myself, I am taking great pleasure at looking at George and Cindy looking like the walking dead. Their game has gone on long enough.

I think Cindy and George show more emotion that KC...any emotion KC shows is fake anyway.
False...lying...everything from her is an act played out in her own mind.  George and Cindy, though, show the effect Perry is having on them.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: kcrn on April 30, 2010, 02:36:24 PM
Attorney Jose Baez talked to WFTV after Casey Anthony's Hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320409/index.html

Kudos Kathi!!    ::MonkeyCool::
god he turns my stomach! he thinks he's some kind of celebrity!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 30, 2010, 02:38:42 PM
I loved it when JP asked BOZO how much time he anticipated it would take for the defense's part.....and he answered approx 2 months for the whole trial........then JP said something like now, I will ask the question again.....................LOL....it was like OK FOOL now answer the questions I asked. ::MonkeyJnBox::

BOZO is gonna be on trutv later on......I have a bad tummy this morning so I will NOT be watching

I LOVED the part where Judge Perry said: now, I will ask the question again, how much time do you anticipate for the defense's part.   ::MonkeyGavel::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 30, 2010, 02:41:07 PM
I missed the part about during trial that court will be in session 5.5 days/week. Was there any reaction to that? I'll watch it again when the video is posted.

No reaction that I noticed. Stoic faces only.

Sounds like Mon-Friday and a half day on Saturdays.

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Judge said 5 1/2 days because, while everyone else goes home and has plenty to do, the jurors have to stay in a hotel.  So he's going to make sure they have movies, games, etc., because they will have no TV.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 02:42:26 PM
Before this case is over, CinCin is going to blurt something out and cause a scene, IMO.  She just cannot help it.
Casey is really " tuned out" isn't she...she looks as though she is a mannequin. OR she is going to stop breathing ... at any moment ::MonkeyEek::



I think it's dawned on her she is in serious trouble.

I think she has realized that her parents can't help her and her attorneys can't do diddly for her. I have always believed the BOZO blew smoke up her nose making her believe he could get her off from the beginning and now the CRUNCH is here, she SEES her future.

I have a slightly different take on KC...(I'm jaded)....I think she we TOLD to keep a poker face, especially this first time in front of a new judge.  Also, AL was not there to do the huggy thing...that was helpful for the defencse. I believe a stone-look is easy for KC because she's such a sociopath.  I don't think she's scared YET and I don't think she will be until the very end...when the Judge orders a death sentence.  THEN she will be scared!  Until then...I think KC will be the ornery, obnoxious, lying self she really is inside.


Beyond all of Casey's issues ..I truly believe she "for the first time" had the fear of GOD in her today. Doped possibly prior to entering the court. I understand your feelings of jaded. I really feel Today she was a Witness of her own " pending" Destiny ..and its not looking like Lucky Charms. Umm not even close... she is prob pacing in her cell creating a camp fire with her own hands...... right now. 
She better get a grip and realize Bobo is not her Genie in a Bottle.  Her days are numbered.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 02:47:23 PM
I missed the part about during trial that court will be in session 5.5 days/week. Was there any reaction to that? I'll watch it again when the video is posted.

No reaction that I noticed. Stoic faces only.

Sounds like Mon-Friday and a half day on Saturdays.

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Judge said 5 1/2 days because, while everyone else goes home and has plenty to do, the jurors have to stay in a hotel.  So he's going to make sure they have movies, games, etc., because they will have no TV.



Bozo better enjoy his tv face time right now because it's very clear JP expects progress at all stages of this. Since lyon will be working the DP angle and LKB the forensics that leaves Baez and Mason for all the rest. Baez may be patting himself on the back for his relatively error free performance today but he will not be able to keep up when the real trial starts. He has no skills and will not be able to focus on anything but how things affect him. Any objection he always seems to take to a personal level.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 30, 2010, 02:49:57 PM

It might have been better left unwritten as you said. But after all the whining  this defense team has done and all the name calling they have put out there. From Baez to Lyons and the A's to me it's the pot calling the kettle black. It's okay we can do it but no one else is can. They still think they are above the law. IMO

I think he wrote it to prevent them filing any appeals based on the situation.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 30, 2010, 02:50:31 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
04/30/2010           Objection
to Courts Order on Defendants Motion to Disqualify Trial Judge

04/30/2010           Transaction Assessment            15.99
04/30/2010           Counter Payment    Receipt # CR-2010-29218    ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE    (15.99)
04/30/2010           Transaction Assessment            15.00
04/30/2010           Counter Payment    Receipt # CR-2010-29251    ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE    (15.00

I believe this is the Defense's objection to the Court's Order (the order from Judge Strickland, recusing himself and reaming the defense) on the Defense's original motion to disqualify himself. I bet they are whining about his comments. They just can't let anything go, can they? They are despicable!
Indeeed!  Despicable is a great word to describe the defense.  I'll bet you are right, I'm thinking the objection IS from the defense, and in keeping with their time honored tradition of acting like spoiled brats, they are trying to retaliate.  I hope that they aren't pretending that the honorable Judge S. was anything but fair.  They are just jealous that Stan the Man can spell, write a literate order, and was hilariously funny, to boot!
They just keep digging their own, (and Casey's,) graves.
 ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 30, 2010, 02:51:12 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

LOL  Cindy says court was much more respectful today with Judge Perry!   She has no idea what respect means.  She was one who showed the most disrespect in SS's courtroom.  Surprisingly.....These people can keep on turning my stomach.
The whole clan wouldn't know respect if it jumped up and bit them in the azz.

That SLOUCHING down in her seat like she was at a movie theater was very disrespectful of the court in my opinion.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Mary on April 30, 2010, 02:52:08 PM
I think those motions that were filed this morning might mean a problem for JS. If the defence
gets their way and if JS is found to be in the wrong, they will appeal every decision that JS
made that was denied. Right back to the first day when he said that the truth and Casey
where strangers. They will claim that JS didn't like her from the very beginning. So therefore
it was not fair to Casey. They will try to bring JS down. This defence team has no scruples
and will not give a damn.  Does any of this make sense to anyone else?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 30, 2010, 02:53:13 PM
I don't believe I have ever witnessed such a juvenile display from a group of supposed professionals, they have been stomping their collective feet when things don't go their way, they write Bozomotions that are the laughing stock of lawyers everywhere, they accidentally get an obviously soft judge kicked off the case in favor of a judge not averse to imposing the DP and to top it all off they have the gall to be offended by his honest response. I can hear Bozo now saying "yeah, I meant to get the judge kicked off the case" pfft...everyone knows he would have to be insane to want that for his client.

I think I see an "inadequate representation" down the road somewhere.  ::MonkeyMad::
Miki  I think you're right. With baez at the lead, IMO it's  a sure bet

It won't make any difference if she does file "inadequate representation" or not because she HIRED him and could have fired him at any point, so as a point of law that is a moot issue.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 02:57:29 PM
Before this case is over, CinCin is going to blurt something out and cause a scene, IMO.  She just cannot help it.
Casey is really " tuned out" isn't she...she looks as though she is a mannequin. OR she is going to stop breathing ... at any moment ::MonkeyEek::



I think it's dawned on her she is in serious trouble.

I think she has realized that her parents can't help her and her attorneys can't do diddly for her. I have always believed the BOZO blew smoke up her nose making her believe he could get her off from the beginning and now the CRUNCH is here, she SEES her future.

I have a slightly different take on KC...(I'm jaded)....I think she we TOLD to keep a poker face, especially this first time in front of a new judge.  Also, AL was not there to do the huggy thing...that was helpful for the defencse. I believe a stone-look is easy for KC because she's such a sociopath.  I don't think she's scared YET and I don't think she will be until the very end...when the Judge orders a death sentence.  THEN she will be scared!  Until then...I think KC will be the ornery, obnoxious, lying self she really is inside.

schoochy over.....I am with you. I don't think she is the least bit scared. BOZO has told her he was gonna get her off and Mason the same thing...she believes them and I think she loves thinking, yep fools, you are gonna get me off...I did it..but y'all are gonna get me off... I think she going to be just like Hope......full of bravado and arrogance right up until the MOMENT she is sentenced!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 30, 2010, 02:57:53 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: CinCin was so respectful she wore thongs & a muu muu;  George is back with the wheel chair schitck.   They're shook.

They are VERY shook...........it is obvious with her pulling at her hair and her quivering voice.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 30, 2010, 02:58:08 PM
OHMYGAWD!  Mason just referred to the case as a SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  said someething about taking this whole SHOW on the road.....meaning change of venue

The jar is a "showboater" !! ::MonkeyShovel::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 02:59:01 PM
I missed the part about during trial that court will be in session 5.5 days/week. Was there any reaction to that? I'll watch it again when the video is posted.

No reaction that I noticed. Stoic faces only.

Sounds like Mon-Friday and a half day on Saturdays.

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Judge said 5 1/2 days because, while everyone else goes home and has plenty to do, the jurors have to stay in a hotel.  So he's going to make sure they have movies, games, etc., because they will have no TV.

and a lot of time to think about their children and grandchildren........ ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on April 30, 2010, 03:01:09 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

LOL  Cindy says court was much more respectful today with Judge Perry!   She has no idea what respect means.  She was one who showed the most disrespect in SS's courtroom.  Surprisingly.....These people can keep on turning my stomach.
The whole clan wouldn't know respect if it jumped up and bit them in the azz.

That SLOUCHING down in her seat like she was at a movie theater was very disrespectful of the court in my opinion.

I thought that as well. George sat at attention, while Cindy slouched.

She knew what she was doing.

JMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 30, 2010, 03:04:27 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/caseys-defense-mad-about-judge.html


WDBO Local News      
Casey's defense mad about judge's insult-filled motion
By Bob Hazen
@ April 30, 2010 10:54 AM Permalink | Comments (0)

Defense attorneys for Casey Anthony are upset about the insult-filled order signed by Judge Stan Strickland before he stepped down from the case.

In a motion filed today, J. Cheney Mason objected to Strickland's criticism of the defense.

"The judge, in filing his order, chose to utilize that opportunity, even though improvident and innapropriately so, to insult defense counsel and do so by either serious mistaken recollection of the facts or worse," Cheney wrote.

"The defense has labored and, frankly, suffered anxiety over filing this Objection since receipt of the same on the 19th of April. However, in the mean time, many other members of the judiciary, members of the Bar, the media, and the general public have been misinformed regarding the judge's order and the misleading content, as set forth above."

Judge Strickland removed himself from the case after the defense complained about his contacts with a blogger.

-- ::MonkeyNoNo::


What is wrong with him? He's still upset that Strickland didn't agree to "trust" him.
This is very insane.

The "showboater" (the jar) is thin-skinned.  Hope the SA takes note because that knowledge can be a useful tool.
 ::MonkeyJnBox::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 30, 2010, 03:06:41 PM
Bobo still wining about not moving the case.  The local area is full of bloggers that talk abotu the case daily, local media is on the pulse of this case....bla...bla...bla.....

Now he is talking about junk science and air samples from the trunk.  Oakridge lab is not a crime lab, defense has issues with data being turned over that they used to come to conclusions as the defense has no way to verify data and do their own testing .  Defense going to challenge their novel science that is not ready for court especially a death penalty case. 
Northern in the papers filed by Dream Team aka Andrea Lyon - She wrote in the footnotes of her DP documents that Casey's reputation has been " preemptively tarnished/destroyed" by bloggers, Nancy Grace, Dr. Lillian Glass and other internet media sources. Calling out Gender Bias etc.. basically she is screaming Scarlet Letter. I put up the link a few pages back of her filed court papers.
As if People cannot make up their own minds within the basic facts of the case.   

Thank you Deenie.  I did see it and read it.  I can not even comment on that motion of how woman of privilege are not treated fairly...bla....bla...bla....  I need to calm down before I even get started on that motion as I am grievously offended on how they paint all women with that motion. 
ITA Northern ..and I think my PC can feel my raw energy " kinetic" because I keep losing my firefox ... The Roaring LYON is a Joke. She needs to seriously take a long hard look at her female counters and predecessors. She is doing Women more of an injustice than anything. She doesn't give a Rats Azz about Casey nor CAYLEE... this Case is her Golden Ticket to another Book - written by compilation of efforts by her unpaid Law Students .. "researching the case" She will co-author as Professor.  ::MonkeyMad::

Yep! Yep! Yep! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on April 30, 2010, 03:07:30 PM
I just read the PDF of the objection to Judge S.'s order of recusal.  The defense are such crybabies!  Waaah, Waaah, Waaah...the Judge hurt my feelings. I feel certain it's Good Ol' Boy, Moonshine Mason, behind this.   Stan the Man's rejection of his folksy, "Do you trust me?" garbage must have stung like he!!  His ego got in the way of his lawyering, in my opinion.  He'd better not try this stuff with Judge Perry, if today is any indication, the good Judge will annihilate him.
Ahh, I love the sweet smell of Justice in the morning!
 ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on April 30, 2010, 03:07:40 PM
The Jar is dancing around why the defense is not in agreement about having jurors sequestered.  He is concerned about the jury not hearing commentary from people who know what they are talking about (anyone else get the feeling that the defense has a whole media schedule ready for trial on where they are going to pop up?)

Wondering if Lyon does not want a sequestered jury as it will be mostly the "blue hairs" she talked so fondly about in her little speak to her fellow lawyers. 
This jury is going to have to be sequestered, imo, no way can they take a chance of the Anthonys and their sidekicks getting to one of the jurors.

Bobo was blathering about how even if the jury was sequestered in Orange County the defense had concerns of people protesting in front of the court house or over zealous reporters finding family of jury members and interviewing them. Firm on having trial moved to south Florida as their research showed that was the best place.  NEWS FLASH BOBO....if they are sequestered they would not find out of any of that until after trial . 

Either he is SO STUPID (which we already know) or he is playing to the jury pool because if a jury is sequestered, there is NO RELEASE of any information on any jurors until the trial is OVER. Yes, the defense will have the list and the info on the jurors, but even if they tried to get to a family member it would do them no good because the jurors can't talk to their family members.

I was on a sequestered jury once, and we had NO TV, and if we got a newspaper EVERYTHING relevant to the case was CUT OUT of it. It made it very hard to read because an article you might be reading on something else if continued might be on the back side (cut out) of something about the trial. Depending I guess on the judge, but we were not allowed random phone calls to our family at all but the security detail could bring us messages or notes from our family AFTER they had been read by security. On Sundays, we could could call our kids, but it was on a speaker phone and recorded. I hated it.............and can not even imagine being sequestered for 3 months like this one will be.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on April 30, 2010, 03:08:19 PM
I'm sure Conman told the A's how to conduct themselves in Perry's court and if he looks at the videos to check himself out on TV, he'll tell Cindy to sit up straight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 30, 2010, 03:21:04 PM
Good Morning Monkeys!  It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood. ::MonkeyCheer4::
Actually, it's getting ready to rain here, but yall know what I'm talkin 'bout.  ::MonkeyWink::

KC was definitely  sedated on something.  I have never seen her sitting that still, not much picking of her clothes and hair.  They all looked stunned.  I don't think Cin has any fingernails left.  I just wish  JP will tell bozo to stay off of tv.  I think it is disgusting that he went on InSession right after the hearing. 

Thanks for all of the links this morning, you monkeys are the BEST! ::MonkeyBike::

I hope that before the actual trial begins, that Judge Perry puts a gag on the attornies with the media.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 30, 2010, 03:26:55 PM
In Session taking about response by defense on Stan's order.  Not often do you find defense responding to a Judge's order but defense felt they had to and there are 23 points that they filed.  Defense said Stan wrote his order he went into subjective ortation rather than just determined by the legal sufficiency.  Stan took adversarial postion in doing that and they particularly objected to Stan talking about the Marinade Brain episode and Stan wrote it was in the presence of the attorneys in open court and defense cite videos that it happened not in open court but after everyone had left. 
Defense responded to last line Stan wrote about Irony -

"To find irony one only needs to read the court order with footnotes"
Even though I found what Strickland wrote to be rather humorous, I will say, and then go hide  ::MonkeyHaHa::, that it was rather sarcastic and probably would have been better to think it, and not write it down. But this is just my opinion.

Not disagreeing with what you feel.  I think it is even worse that the defense attack a judge with the same words that they felt so offended by which compelled them to file after the order was written.  Can't let it go is more like it as they need to get the last word in IMO. 
This tit for tat mentality has just really gotten to me.

Hopefully, Judge Strickland is grateful to no longer have to deal with the likes of Bahyaz and the Showboater and "is over it" and gladly moved on!!



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Post by: Puzzler on April 30, 2010, 03:30:39 PM
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/showboater

showboater

Main Entry: 2showboat
Function: intransitive verb
Date: 1951
: to behave in a conspicuous or ostentatious manner : SHOW OFF
— show•boat•er noun



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 30, 2010, 03:32:32 PM
In Session taking about response by defense on Stan's order.  Not often do you find defense responding to a Judge's order but defense felt they had to and there are 23 points that they filed.  Defense said Stan wrote his order he went into subjective ortation rather than just determined by the legal sufficiency.  Stan took adversarial postion in doing that and they particularly objected to Stan talking about the Marinade Brain episode and Stan wrote it was in the presence of the attorneys in open court and defense cite videos that it happened not in open court but after everyone had left. 
Defense responded to last line Stan wrote about Irony -

"To find irony one only needs to read the court order with footnotes"
Even though I found what Strickland wrote to be rather humorous, I will say, and then go hide  ::MonkeyHaHa::, that it was rather sarcastic and probably would have been better to think it, and not write it down. But this is just my opinion.

It might have been better left unwritten as you said. But after all the whining  this defense team has done and all the name calling they have put out there. From Baez to Lyons and the A's to me it's the pot calling the kettle black. It's okay we can do it but no one else is can. They still think they are above the law. IMO

Shows that the duhfense is NOT capable of taking the high road.


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Post by: Puzzler on April 30, 2010, 03:33:06 PM
Apart from a couple of mentions sneeringly about Judge Strickland and Mr Nejame, I thought Bozo was going to get though the whole thing without shooting himself in the foot. I was wrong, he then decided it was about time to correct the judge on his pronunciation of one of his duh!fense cronies name.

This man has to have the last word and he is not able to just leave any scene without taking a potshot at someone, I guess he feels it makes him look in control. Alienate the Judge why don't you...go shoot yourself in the other foot...oh! wait you already did that! ::MonkeyCool::

Again...shows that the duhfense is NOT capable of taking the high road.



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Post by: Miki Monkey on April 30, 2010, 03:35:43 PM
I don't believe I have ever witnessed such a juvenile display from a group of supposed professionals, they have been stomping their collective feet when things don't go their way, they write Bozomotions that are the laughing stock of lawyers everywhere, they accidentally get an obviously soft judge kicked off the case in favor of a judge not averse to imposing the DP and to top it all off they have the gall to be offended by his honest response. I can hear Bozo now saying "yeah, I meant to get the judge kicked off the case" pfft...everyone knows he would have to be insane to want that for his client.

I think I see an "inadequate representation" down the road somewhere.  ::MonkeyMad::
Miki  I think you're right. With baez at the lead, IMO it's  a sure bet

It won't make any difference if she does file "inadequate representation" or not because she HIRED him and could have fired him at any point, so as a point of law that is a moot issue.


Whether a defendant will be sentenced to death typically depends more on the quality of his/her legal team than any other factor. She has an inexperienced Lawyer who has never tried a DP case and insists he is lead attorney on the case. People who are well represented at trial do not get the death penalty yet Baez seems to be making sure this is what will happen with his actions. KC has hired Baez thinking he was going to get her off because this is what he has told her. I don't believe that the client is expected to know the difference between adequate counsel and mediocre counsel paid or appointed, and I think as she is kept isolated from everyone and everything who she chose to represent her in a DP case is not a moot point. JMO


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Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 03:37:17 PM
Bobo still wining about not moving the case.  The local area is full of bloggers that talk abotu the case daily, local media is on the pulse of this case....bla...bla...bla.....

Now he is talking about junk science and air samples from the trunk.  Oakridge lab is not a crime lab, defense has issues with data being turned over that they used to come to conclusions as the defense has no way to verify data and do their own testing .  Defense going to challenge their novel science that is not ready for court especially a death penalty case. 
Northern in the papers filed by Dream Team aka Andrea Lyon - She wrote in the footnotes of her DP documents that Casey's reputation has been " preemptively tarnished/destroyed" by bloggers, Nancy Grace, Dr. Lillian Glass and other internet media sources. Calling out Gender Bias etc.. basically she is screaming Scarlet Letter. I put up the link a few pages back of her filed court papers.
As if People cannot make up their own minds within the basic facts of the case.   

Thank you Deenie.  I did see it and read it.  I can not even comment on that motion of how woman of privilege are not treated fairly...bla....bla...bla....  I need to calm down before I even get started on that motion as I am grievously offended on how they paint all women with that motion. 
ITA Northern ..and I think my PC can feel my raw energy " kinetic" because I keep losing my firefox ... The Roaring LYON is a Joke. She needs to seriously take a long hard look at her female counters and predecessors. She is doing Women more of an injustice than anything. She doesn't give a Rats Azz about Casey nor CAYLEE... this Case is her Golden Ticket to another Book - written by compilation of efforts by her unpaid Law Students .. "researching the case" She will co-author as Professor.  ::MonkeyMad::

Yep! Yep! Yep! 
I was thinking after I posted that - Lyon Roaring Bank Account. She is going to have her current Law Student " Compile" all their findings. Create a manifest turn it into " Book Form" She will add her comments within as co-author -throughout the book itself. Then she will make it a part of her curriculum for her Future Students " they Must Buy it" because this case will be part of History " Death Penalty"  - and that she was co-chair. She will make Money off this one way or another. I bet her University will even fund the creation of her " Students Collective Efforts" ... since she made it present in court .. My " 14" current law students are doing all the leg work on this case " due to I am Pro Bono" and I create fund raisers so they are to accomplish such collective efforts in this case... gag me with a Jury.
She is a skank as Bobo and Cheney .. throw in a Slore.  That is what I do not understand. HOW can Casey NOT understand that she is  " Money in the Bank" That is what her Duhfense Team is made of. Bottom feeders each and everyone of them.  One who plays together stays together - yet those who lay down with dogs .. Fleas ?? I honesty think that Bahyez has tainted her brain with visions of Hearts/Flowers/Pens and tablets... that she thinks he is her (today) Plea card. They all deserve each other. My only contemplation within all of this is Caylee's outcome. Where does her Rights come into play?  I guess we will find out soon enough.   ::MonkeyShovel::


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Post by: Love2Read on April 30, 2010, 03:38:45 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

these are the last people in the world who should talk about respect in the court room!!

LOL, that's what I was thinking.  I guess she doesn't believe that her chewing cud/gum , swigging out of a water bottle and texting during court was disrespectful...


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Post by: seemeatthebeach on April 30, 2010, 03:48:04 PM
Before this case is over, CinCin is going to blurt something out and cause a scene, IMO.  She just cannot help it.
Casey is really " tuned out" isn't she...she looks as though she is a mannequin. OR she is going to stop breathing ... at any moment ::MonkeyEek::



I think it's dawned on her she is in serious trouble.

I think she has realized that her parents can't help her and her attorneys can't do diddly for her. I have always believed the BOZO blew smoke up her nose making her believe he could get her off from the beginning and now the CRUNCH is here, she SEES her future.

I have a slightly different take on KC...(I'm jaded)....I think she we TOLD to keep a poker face, especially this first time in front of a new judge.  Also, AL was not there to do the huggy thing...that was helpful for the defencse. I believe a stone-look is easy for KC because she's such a sociopath.  I don't think she's scared YET and I don't think she will be until the very end...when the Judge orders a death sentence.  THEN she will be scared!  Until then...I think KC will be the ornery, obnoxious, lying self she really is inside.

schoochy over.....I am with you. I don't think she is the least bit scared. BOZO has told her he was gonna get her off and Mason the same thing...she believes them and I think she loves thinking, yep fools, you are gonna get me off...I did it..but y'all are gonna get me off... I think she going to be just like Hope......full of bravado and arrogance right up until the MOMENT she is sentenced!!

I think KC sat in court today zoned out.....thinking "what a huge waste this hearing is.......how dare they drag me away from my peanuts and pop-tarts, and important letter writing/doodles to my newest bff........ ::rhino::

get your priorities in order b!tches!!!


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Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 03:53:18 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

these are the last people in the world who should talk about respect in the court room!!

LOL, that's what I was thinking.  I guess she doesn't believe that her chewing cud/gum , swigging out of a water bottle and texting during court was disrespectful...
Did you notice Cindy within the last few seconds with her hand to the Media ...she could barely breathe let alone make any remarks ... " First " for Cindy. 
Cindy is Cindy ..she is more than likely on the phone with all her Staff - gearing up for ZG Civil Suit with her Buttercup Mr Softey Atty BC - and Morgan. She will be flapping her lips I bet ... not shunning - Time is running out and options are becoming even smaller for Cindy to Yack her brains out. I am sure she is at this moment is " Reflecting" on her Past events within the Media. Its bittersweet " As of Today".. She should have done the right thing first and Stood up for Caylee and told the truth... Shame has no Glory  ::MonkeyNoNo::


http://www.youtube.com/v/SJl3S4Shkjk&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0


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Post by: Wyks on April 30, 2010, 03:58:29 PM
So when a jury is sequestered like that, for so long, are the alternatives sequestered as well? 


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Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 04:06:38 PM
So when a jury is sequestered like that, for so long, are the alternatives sequestered as well? 
I don't understand the process of " Sequestering a Jury pool"  how would the courts " take on this" in order for it to be effective ?  Judge Perry mentioned demographics today .. I don't understand how a jury is Sequestered ??

Wkys enlighten me ?  I have received in the mail " Jury Duty" notice years ago but I was "not a fit within the criteria" .. to be a Juror.   


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Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 04:11:47 PM
I was exempt of Jury duty in MI because I had a lawsuit within x-yrs ( I was represented as a minor in a Dog Attack/Personal Injury suit -

Florida Orange County Link for Juror information -

http://www.ninja9.org/courtadmin/jury/orange.htm


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Post by: NM on April 30, 2010, 04:37:29 PM
Conway says the Rosebuds are happy with Judge Perry and they were happy with Stan.  They are happy about JP's expectation of professionalism.  Day to day impact of the case on the Rosebuds is a roller coaster.  There are days when they get good news.  When pressed on what good news would be Conway says it would be a message from KC that she loves her parents and misses them through her lawyers.  Rosebuds are not included on the motions and that is hard on the Rosebuds and delays are bad news.  They are thankful JP is keeping on schedule so they know they only have one more year to wait to see what happens to their daughter (guess they have totally forgot about Justice for Caylee)

Rosebuds will get on stand and tell the truth but it is a conflict between what they want to say and what really happened.  They are looking forward to explaining the 911 call. 
Oh, big surprise there! ::MonkeyHaHa::


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 04:41:46 PM
There are two posters at WS who went to the hearing today. Casey did not turn around to her parents at all, so why Cindy mouthed I love you to Casey is beyond me. Also, it appears before the hearing started, Baez was showing Casey something on his phone, so perhaps Cindy and Casey were giving messages to each other via cell phone. I didn't see it, but that is the talk. There was also a body language person and a jury consultant there as well.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 04:47:56 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/23317820/detail.html
Judge Seeks To Hold Anthony Trial In Orlando
New Judge Hopes To Settle Venue Issue In May

POSTED: 9:32 am EDT April 30, 2010
UPDATED: 4:39 pm EDT April 30, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
The new judge in the case against Casey Anthony wasted no time getting down to business on Friday.

Promptly at 9:30 a.m., Judge Belvin Perry started with a barrage of questions to find out what needs to be decided and when.

"How many motions do you have pending that are ripe to be heard?" Perry asked.

Perry said he plans to determine the defense team's budget on Thursday. Anthony's defense attorneys will get public money after she was declared indigent.

"That needs to be done yesterday," Perry said.
During the upcoming weeks, Perry will hear motions on the death penalty and change of venue. Because of the costs associated with moving the trial and the likely need to sequester a jury, Perry suggested the trial would be held in Orlando.

"If I decide to sequester the jury, we will go somewhere, we will pick a jury, and they will be returned to Orange County," Perry said.

Anthony chuckled a little bit before the hearing began, but then she sat emotionless. Her parents, George and Cindy Anthony, were just two rows behind her.

Perry kept the trial date slated for May 9, 2011. It's expected to last two months or more, he said.

"We love the knowledge that Judge Perry brings to the bench and the experience he has," Defense Attorney Jose Baez said.

Lawyers on both sides were amiable -- even enjoying a light moment when prosecutor Linda Drane Burdick told the judge she was expected for jury duty.

"You can be excused," Perry said.

Defense attorney Cheney Mason made it clear he was the one behind the effort to have Judge Stan Strickland step down from the case. He had filed a motion objecting to Strickland's comments about the defense team.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 04:49:02 PM
There are two posters at WS who went to the hearing today. Casey did not turn around to her parents at all, so why Cindy mouthed I love you to Casey is beyond me. Also, it appears before the hearing started, Baez was showing Casey something on his phone, so perhaps Cindy and Casey were giving messages to each other via cell phone. I didn't see it, but that is the talk. There was also a body language person and a jury consultant there as well.

Thanks NRCG.I wish we could have been there.   ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: Puzzler on April 30, 2010, 04:54:57 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

LOL  Cindy says court was much more respectful today with Judge Perry!   She has no idea what respect means.  She was one who showed the most disrespect in SS's courtroom.  Surprisingly.....These people can keep on turning my stomach.
The whole clan wouldn't know respect if it jumped up and bit them in the azz.

Here! Here!   ::MonkeyTongue::



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Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 04:57:04 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/30/casey_faces_new_judge.html
 Casey Faces New Judge In Court
Friday, April 30, 2010 3:27:39 PM
Reported by Dave D’Marko and Jacqueline Fell

ORLANDO -- Casey Anthony and her defense team went before a new judge Friday morning.
Judge Belvin Perry took over the case after Judge Stan Strickland recused himself at the request of Anthony’s lawyers.

The defense said Strickland had an inappropriate discussion with a blogger covering the case.

Some analysts, however, said Strickland’s replacement could be more difficult to deal with as they try to defend Anthony against charges of murdering her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.

Analysts had called Perry a “no-nonsense” judge, and that was reflected in the first court hearing in the case.

The judge was all about the calendar, pushing both the prosecution and defense to be ready for trial.

At one point, when Perry was talking to defense attorney Jose Baez about his budget for the Justice Administrative Commission to pay for Anthony’s discovery process, he said: “That needed to be done, like, yesterday.”
Perry set the hearing for May 6 and  then started pressing the attorneys to get all their pending motions resolved. They have until May 10 to prepare them for his decision.

Both sides said they had a lot to do -- for example, the state trying to get depositions from as many as 250 witnesses.

Perry said he wants a schedule of when they will take depositions. Anyone who misses a set deadline could be held in contempt of court.

“I will not be taking the excuse, ‘They don’t show up; we need a delay.’ Give them a courtesy call, and if we need him, I’m sure the sheriff, Jerry Demings, will be helpful in making those witnesses available,” Perry said.

At one point, a prosecutor said she might not be able to make a hearing, because she was scheduled for jury duty in Orange County.

Perry said he knows people, and he’s pretty sure he could get her out of it.

Attorneys on both sides were forced to talk about things in open court they may not have been prepared to discuss, like change of venue and sequestering the jury.

Though not official yet, Perry said he would prefer to keep the trial in Orlando, and to get a jury from another county, saying that would be the cheapest way to do things.

Attorneys also seemed to agree the trial could last as long as two months. The judge did not seem thrilled, but the trial remains set to start in May 2011.


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Post by: Scatty on April 30, 2010, 04:57:24 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

LOL  Cindy says court was much more respectful today with Judge Perry!   She has no idea what respect means.  She was one who showed the most disrespect in SS's courtroom.  Surprisingly.....These people can keep on turning my stomach.

It's real work fighting off the nausea!;   Jar looks like he has high blood pressure;  Sequestered jury brought in from Tampa, P'cola, or Tallahassee---venue Orlando is my bet. 
::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm not clear on the demographics........why does that play into jury selection?   Demographics meaning ethnicity ?  Anyone know?


I think so. I think Baez may have been hinting that a certain demographic is less likely to be able to be sequestered due to economics or whatever. One thing that worried me was when JP said the place the jury pool was coming from would not be made public until just before trial. I'm worried because, what if this unethical defense doesn't like the demographic from the place where the jury is being  picked and so leaks the information to the media? Might that cause the judge to have to pick a different jury pool location? What's to stop Bozo and co. from leaking away until a location with the "right" defense-friendly demographic comes up? I hope JP addresses this possibility with the threat of severe sanctions.


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Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 04:59:23 PM
There are two posters at WS who went to the hearing today. Casey did not turn around to her parents at all, so why Cindy mouthed I love you to Casey is beyond me. Also, it appears before the hearing started, Baez was showing Casey something on his phone, so perhaps Cindy and Casey were giving messages to each other via cell phone. I didn't see it, but that is the talk. There was also a body language person and a jury consultant there as well.
Possibly it was a last ditch effort on Cindy's part - to " show the world" she Loves Casey -
I don't know. Casey in her " lack there of state ~ zoned out "  would not have jumped if a big gooey Cheeseburger whispered at her come hither ..........  ::MonkeyTongue::


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 04:59:26 PM
There are two posters at WS who went to the hearing today. Casey did not turn around to her parents at all, so why Cindy mouthed I love you to Casey is beyond me. Also, it appears before the hearing started, Baez was showing Casey something on his phone, so perhaps Cindy and Casey were giving messages to each other via cell phone. I didn't see it, but that is the talk. There was also a body language person and a jury consultant there as well.

Thanks NRCG.I wish we could have been there.   ::MonkeyCool::
Yes, me too. And also wanted to add that the prosecution side was filled up, and this one poster had to sit on the defense side, not that she wanted to, but there was no room.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 04:59:38 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/23309998/detail.html
Judge Discusses Venue Change, Length Of Casey Trial
Posted: 4:06 pm EDT April 29, 2010Updated: 4:21 pm EDT April 30, 2010
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony sat emotionless Friday during the first hearing in her case in front of a new judge. Chief Judge Belvin Perry, Jr. said the jury in the case likely will not come from Orange County, but he doesn't plan to move the trial either.
Casey, wearing a pink, long-sleeved button down collar shirt, seemed in good spirits as she smiled while talking to Baez (images  | video)  before Orange County Chief Judge Belvin Perry arrived in the courtroom. From there on she looked more serious and Judge Perry quickly proved he will not put up with nonsense and is ready to move the case against Casey full speed ahead.
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Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 05:00:03 PM
There are two posters at WS who went to the hearing today. Casey did not turn around to her parents at all, so why Cindy mouthed I love you to Casey is beyond me. Also, it appears before the hearing started, Baez was showing Casey something on his phone, so perhaps Cindy and Casey were giving messages to each other via cell phone. I didn't see it, but that is the talk. There was also a body language person and a jury consultant there as well.
Possibly it was a last ditch effort on Cindy's part - to " show the world" she Loves Casey -
I don't know. Casey in her " lack there of state ~ zoned out "  would not have jumped if a big gooey Cheeseburger whispered at her come hither ..........  ::MonkeyTongue::
I'm very curious about this phone action  ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Post by: Puzzler on April 30, 2010, 05:02:25 PM
Before this case is over, CinCin is going to blurt something out and cause a scene, IMO.  She just cannot help it.
Casey is really " tuned out" isn't she...she looks as though she is a mannequin. OR she is going to stop breathing ... at any moment ::MonkeyEek::



I think it's dawned on her she is in serious trouble.

I think she has realized that her parents can't help her and her attorneys can't do diddly for her. I have always believed the BOZO blew smoke up her nose making her believe he could get her off from the beginning and now the CRUNCH is here, she SEES her future.

I have a slightly different take on KC...(I'm jaded)....I think she we TOLD to keep a poker face, especially this first time in front of a new judge.  Also, AL was not there to do the huggy thing...that was helpful for the defencse. I believe a stone-look is easy for KC because she's such a sociopath.  I don't think she's scared YET and I don't think she will be until the very end...when the Judge orders a death sentence.  THEN she will be scared!  Until then...I think KC will be the ornery, obnoxious, lying self she really is inside.

schoochy over.....I am with you. I don't think she is the least bit scared. BOZO has told her he was gonna get her off and Mason the same thing...she believes them and I think she loves thinking, yep fools, you are gonna get me off...I did it..but y'all are gonna get me off... I think she going to be just like Hope......full of bravado and arrogance right up until the MOMENT she is sentenced!!

Thank you for that!  I wanted to add in my original post to think "Hope" and how she acted...but...I couldn't remember Hope's name.   ::MonkeyHaHa::



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Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 05:03:22 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-perry-hearing-20100430,0,6002860.story
New Casey Anthony judge mulls jury options
Chief Judge Belvin Perry Jr. set an aggressive pace in his first hearing on the case.

By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel
4:00 p.m. EDT, April 30, 2010
The new judge in the Casey Anthony murder case, Chief Circuit Judge Belvin Perry Jr., on Friday laid down new rules for the case, and one of his most prominent: The trial will stay in Orange County.

It may not be heard by Orange County jurors, but the evidence against Anthony will play out in a local courtroom.

In a week and a half, the judge said, he will listen to arguments on whether the case should be tried by a jury from somewhere else.

If he grants that change-of-venue motion, he and attorneys will travel to another Florida county — he wouldn't say which one — pick a 12-member jury plus alternates, then pack everyone up and bring them to Orange County for the rest of the trial.

The trial won't happen until May 9, 2011, a date Perry left unchanged, but given how long it's expected to last — four to seven weeks — it promises to be a long slog for anyone picked for the panel.

And if Perry decides to sequester jurors — cut them off from outsiders and outside sources of information — it could make jury service even more tedious.

Friday's hearing was Perry's first in the case. He took over from Circuit Judge Stan Strickland, who recused himself last week after defense attorneys accused him of showing bias by complimenting a blogger who writes about the case.

The hearing's purpose was to bring Perry up to speed, but he used it let attorneys know that he intends to move the case forward aggressively.

He ordered them back to court Thursday to have the defense lay out how much public money it expects to spend. That hearing, the judge said, "needs to be done, like, yesterday."

He also ordered attorneys to block out three days the following week to argue a series of long unresolved motions, including whether Florida's death penalty is unconstitutional and whether jurors will be allowed to view party pictures of Anthony and hear allegations about domestic violence by the former county employee who found the body of Anthony's daughter, Caylee Marie.

After questioning attorneys, Perry predicted the trial would last four to seven weeks.

"This is a monster case," defense attorney Jose Baez said after the hearing.

The state has 250 potential witnesses, said Assistant State Attorney Linda Drane Burdick. She predicted defense attorneys would want to take sworn statements from 90 of them before trial.

So far, defense attorneys have deposed 36, Baez said.

Anthony, 24, is charged with murdering her daughter in 2008. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.

Anthony said nothing at Friday's 50-minute hearing. She sat between two of her attorneys, Baez and J. Cheney Mason. She wore a pink blouse, gray slacks and, on her feet, white socks and black Mary Janes.

Perry has not yet scheduled a hearing on one of the most complicated, novel pieces of evidence in the case: air samples taken from the trunk of Anthony's Pontiac. Scientists from the Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee found particles that indicate a decomposed body spent time there.

That method of air-particle analysis has never before been used in court, and Baez said Friday he'll challenge its scientific validity at a pre-trial hearing.

Walter Pacheco of the Sentinel staff contributed to this report. Rene Stutzman can be reached at rstutzman@orlandosentinel.com or 407-650-6394.


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Post by: Puzzler on April 30, 2010, 05:03:29 PM
I missed the part about during trial that court will be in session 5.5 days/week. Was there any reaction to that? I'll watch it again when the video is posted.

No reaction that I noticed. Stoic faces only.

Sounds like Mon-Friday and a half day on Saturdays.

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Judge said 5 1/2 days because, while everyone else goes home and has plenty to do, the jurors have to stay in a hotel.  So he's going to make sure they have movies, games, etc., because they will have no TV.

and a lot of time to think about their children and grandchildren........ ::MonkeyWink::

Yep!  Good one...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on April 30, 2010, 05:04:33 PM
There are two posters at WS who went to the hearing today. Casey did not turn around to her parents at all, so why Cindy mouthed I love you to Casey is beyond me. Also, it appears before the hearing started, Baez was showing Casey something on his phone, so perhaps Cindy and Casey were giving messages to each other via cell phone. I didn't see it, but that is the talk. There was also a body language person and a jury consultant there as well.

Thanks NRCG.I wish we could have been there.   ::MonkeyCool::

Morning Monks...Sooo. This new judge ROCKS!! He makes Baez Babble like a Bozo!! I had said before that if the office (d.a.) that I worked for Jose would have had his ish handed to him last year. Judge Strickland was rather fair, but I did see him to be too passive. Especially when it is BEYOND obvious that he is stalling for time. Casey only made one big move, her jaw was clenching as they spoke of dates for the "death pentalty"....hagagaga. It looks like Cindy read the letters to Cookie, or Muffin, whatev...,as Casey has new threads. I bet Baez made sure she never wear her faker than life, "sexy librarian glasses". It also looks as if all the new information released about what Casey has made her tame down her courtroom ways.  No more writing while in court. So no  letters to the fambam on the notepad. No more smiling incessantly at Jose, and  no more constantly tugging at her terrible outift. I hope they're as scared as they look. Both Baez and Anthny look like they met their fate with this new judge. The both just got smacked with the reality stick...I bet they are regretting having J.S. step down!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 30, 2010, 05:05:14 PM
I just read the PDF of the objection to Judge S.'s order of recusal.  The defense are such crybabies!  Waaah, Waaah, Waaah...the Judge hurt my feelings. I feel certain it's Good Ol' Boy, Moonshine Mason, behind this.   Stan the Man's rejection of his folksy, "Do you trust me?" garbage must have stung like he!!  His ego got in the way of his lawyering, in my opinion.  He'd better not try this stuff with Judge Perry, if today is any indication, the good Judge will annihilate him.
Ahh, I love the sweet smell of Justice in the morning!
 ::MonkeyJustice::


Okay...so the jar is a "whiney" showboater!
 ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 05:06:44 PM
I just read the PDF of the objection to Judge S.'s order of recusal.  The defense are such crybabies!  Waaah, Waaah, Waaah...the Judge hurt my feelings. I feel certain it's Good Ol' Boy, Moonshine Mason, behind this.   Stan the Man's rejection of his folksy, "Do you trust me?" garbage must have stung like he!!  His ego got in the way of his lawyering, in my opinion.  He'd better not try this stuff with Judge Perry, if today is any indication, the good Judge will annihilate him.
Ahh, I love the sweet smell of Justice in the morning!
 ::MonkeyJustice::


And let's not forget---isn't this trial supposed to be jar's "swan song" ??  If indeed true, then perhaps he feels liberated to go after Judge Strickland in a very petty and unbecoming way--almost as though he had a vendetta.  I thought the motion childish.  Just musing here.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NO1ZMONKEY on April 30, 2010, 05:09:37 PM
 

Morning Monks...Sooo. This new judge ROCKS!! He makes Baez Babble like a Bozo!! I had said before that if the office (d.a.) that I worked for Jose would have had his ish handed to him last year. Judge Strickland was rather fair, but I did see him to be too passive. Especially when it is BEYOND obvious that he is stalling for time. Casey only made one big move, her jaw was clenching as they spoke of dates for the "death pentalty"....hagagaga. It looks like Cindy read the letters to Cookie, or Muffin, whatev...,as Casey has new threads. I bet Baez made sure she never wear her faker than life, "sexy librarian glasses". It also looks as if all the new information released about what Casey has made her tame down her courtroom ways.  No more writing while in court. So no  letters to the fambam on the notepad. No more smiling incessantly at Jose, and  no more constantly tugging at her terrible outift. I hope they're as scared as they look. Both Baez and Anthny look like they met their fate with this new judge. The both just got smacked with the reality stick...I bet they are regretting having J.S. step down!
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Actually, she clenched her jaw at the "party pictures" comment too. Hmm. What does clenching your jaw mean Casey? No for bozo on In Session..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 30, 2010, 05:10:44 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

these are the last people in the world who should talk about respect in the court room!!

LOL, that's what I was thinking.  I guess she doesn't believe that her chewing cud/gum , swigging out of a water bottle and texting during court was disrespectful...
Did you notice Cindy within the last few seconds with her hand to the Media ...she could barely breathe let alone make any remarks ... " First " for Cindy. 
Cindy is Cindy ..she is more than likely on the phone with all her Staff - gearing up for ZG Civil Suit with her Buttercup Mr Softey Atty BC - and Morgan. She will be flapping her lips I bet ... not shunning - Time is running out and options are becoming even smaller for Cindy to Yack her brains out. I am sure she is at this moment is " Reflecting" on her Past events within the Media. Its bittersweet " As of Today".. She should have done the right thing first and Stood up for Caylee and told the truth... Shame has no Glory  ::MonkeyNoNo::


http://www.youtube.com/v/SJl3S4Shkjk&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0

Thoughts running trough Cindy's head: 

Oh, sh*t!  If I jump up and make a fool of myself during the trial, THIS judge is gonna be mean to me!

Darn, this judge is no fun at all!

Uh, oh!  If I'm on the stand, this judge is gonna let the prosecution "impeach" me with my own words!

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 05:11:02 PM
Sierra YT -

Vid - first part of Court session 4/30/10 -
the sound is up - so turn your speakers down :) Starts from Scratch prior to Judge Perry entering - The Entrance of all the " Guests"  Ants and etc........ 

http://www.youtube.com/v/sCVALql9CJ4&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 05:11:05 PM
So when a jury is sequestered like that, for so long, are the alternatives sequestered as well? 

Yes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 05:11:57 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

LOL  Cindy says court was much more respectful today with Judge Perry!   She has no idea what respect means.  She was one who showed the most disrespect in SS's courtroom.  Surprisingly.....These people can keep on turning my stomach.

It's real work fighting off the nausea!;   Jar looks like he has high blood pressure;  Sequestered jury brought in from Tampa, P'cola, or Tallahassee---venue Orlando is my bet. 
::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm not clear on the demographics........why does that play into jury selection?   Demographics meaning ethnicity ?  Anyone know?


I think so. I think Baez may have been hinting that a certain demographic is less likely to be able to be sequestered due to economics or whatever. One thing that worried me was when JP said the place the jury pool was coming from would not be made public until just before trial. I'm worried because, what if this unethical defense doesn't like the demographic from the place where the jury is being  picked and so leaks the information to the media? Might that cause the judge to have to pick a different jury pool location? What's to stop Bozo and co. from leaking away until a location with the "right" defense-friendly demographic comes up? I hope JP addresses this possibility with the threat of severe sanctions.
I can't imagine which demographic would be more pro kc than any other but before when he was hell bent on going to Miami with the trial it appeared that he fancied the Miami jurors would be enamored with him not kc. His ego is so big to think that although maybe he has public relations ready at the gate to smaer his ugly mug all over the place pumping up his non existent clout.  I certainly can't think of which group would naturally be sympathetic to a baby killer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 30, 2010, 05:12:52 PM
There are two posters at WS who went to the hearing today. Casey did not turn around to her parents at all, so why Cindy mouthed I love you to Casey is beyond me. Also, it appears before the hearing started, Baez was showing Casey something on his phone, so perhaps Cindy and Casey were giving messages to each other via cell phone. I didn't see it, but that is the talk. There was also a body language person and a jury consultant there as well.

Like mother, like daughter.  Just as KC marches to a story in her own mind...so does Cindy.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 05:13:50 PM
There are two posters at WS who went to the hearing today. Casey did not turn around to her parents at all, so why Cindy mouthed I love you to Casey is beyond me. Also, it appears before the hearing started, Baez was showing Casey something on his phone, so perhaps Cindy and Casey were giving messages to each other via cell phone. I didn't see it, but that is the talk. There was also a body language person and a jury consultant there as well.

Maybe CinCin was mouthing that to jar?      ::MonkeyRoll::    lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Scatty on April 30, 2010, 05:21:52 PM
I can't imagine which demographic would be more pro kc than any other but before when he was hell bent on going to Miami with the trial it appeared that he fancied the Miami jurors would be enamored with him not kc. His ego is so big to think that although maybe he has public relations ready at the gate to smaer his ugly mug all over the place pumping up his non existent clout.  I certainly can't think of which group would naturally be sympathetic to a baby killer.

I was thinking something like Miami too. Baez thinks some places are more anti-LE than others. He also needs an audience to play his "first Hispanic yada-yada" role to the hilt. You are right, Baez is all about Baez, and the Godzilla of egos.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on April 30, 2010, 05:22:15 PM
There are two posters at WS who went to the hearing today. Casey did not turn around to her parents at all, so why Cindy mouthed I love you to Casey is beyond me. Also, it appears before the hearing started, Baez was showing Casey something on his phone, so perhaps Cindy and Casey were giving messages to each other via cell phone. I didn't see it, but that is the talk. There was also a body language person and a jury consultant there as well.

Maybe CinCin was mouthing that to jar?      ::MonkeyRoll::    lol

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 05:24:47 PM
There are two posters at WS who went to the hearing today. Casey did not turn around to her parents at all, so why Cindy mouthed I love you to Casey is beyond me. Also, it appears before the hearing started, Baez was showing Casey something on his phone, so perhaps Cindy and Casey were giving messages to each other via cell phone. I didn't see it, but that is the talk. There was also a body language person and a jury consultant there as well.

Thanks NRCG.I wish we could have been there.   ::MonkeyCool::

Me too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 05:27:36 PM
Cindy and George Anthony briefly commented to reporters after Casey's hearing Friday. (04/30/10)

http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

LOL  Cindy says court was much more respectful today with Judge Perry!   She has no idea what respect means.  She was one who showed the most disrespect in SS's courtroom.  Surprisingly.....These people can keep on turning my stomach.

It's real work fighting off the nausea!;   Jar looks like he has high blood pressure;  Sequestered jury brought in from Tampa, P'cola, or Tallahassee---venue Orlando is my bet. 
::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm not clear on the demographics........why does that play into jury selection?   Demographics meaning ethnicity ?  Anyone know?


I think so. I think Baez may have been hinting that a certain demographic is less likely to be able to be sequestered due to economics or whatever. One thing that worried me was when JP said the place the jury pool was coming from would not be made public until just before trial. I'm worried because, what if this unethical defense doesn't like the demographic from the place where the jury is being  picked and so leaks the information to the media? Might that cause the judge to have to pick a different jury pool location? What's to stop Bozo and co. from leaking away until a location with the "right" defense-friendly demographic comes up? I hope JP addresses this possibility with the threat of severe sanctions.

If Baez does something like that he will be in severe doo doo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 05:32:15 PM
The Video - I just posted - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCVALql9CJ4

Slore was doing her thing, playing with her hair, fixing her shirt ..all in face of the courtroom.
Smiles for BOBO - giggles - all is Well ....

Something clicked " OFF" with her when Judge Perry entered the room - to turn her into stone.
She was always one that had issues with Authority ..unfortunately I don't think she knows what Authority really means/meant until today.
Her reality was sweet,  quick and became painfully personal during these few short moments in the court this am ~ Priceless.. 
 :queen: :arrow: :shock:

 ::MonkeyRoll::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 05:34:20 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/23320617/index.html

Bill Shaeffer talks after the hearing


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 05:34:23 PM
There are two posters at WS who went to the hearing today. Casey did not turn around to her parents at all, so why Cindy mouthed I love you to Casey is beyond me. Also, it appears before the hearing started, Baez was showing Casey something on his phone, so perhaps Cindy and Casey were giving messages to each other via cell phone. I didn't see it, but that is the talk. There was also a body language person and a jury consultant there as well.

Thanks NRCG.I wish we could have been there.   ::MonkeyCool::

Me too.

What kind of idiot (CA) mouthes I love you with a little girly wave to boot to a daughter that recently had very shameful things about your family be brought into the public? Even though the things were said in the letters months ago, they are very public now. Denial as usual or all for show? At least GA had the common sense not throw kc a kiss, these ppl. always jangle my last nerve


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 05:38:50 PM
The Video - I just posted - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCVALql9CJ4

Slore was doing her thing, playing with her hair, fixing her shirt ..all in face of the courtroom.
Smiles for BOBO - giggles - all is Well ....

Something clicked " OFF" with her when Judge Perry entered the room - to turn her into stone.
She was always one that had issues with Authority ..unfortunately I don't think she knows what Authority really means/meant until today.
Her reality was sweet,  quick and became painfully personal during these few short moments in the court this am ~ Priceless.. 
 :queen: :arrow: :shock:

 ::MonkeyRoll::

thanks Deenie........I noticed ..the smiles, flipping the hair, pulling her shirt and fidgeting and then she stopped, watched and listened...I didn't even see her pick up the pen and doodle or what ever it is she does usually....I think she is pretending she is a major part of the legal defense team..........not the defendant ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 05:40:21 PM
Thank you for that video Deenie, that was interesting;  I've always wondered if Casey has a tumor on her left temple above her eye or is that her normal facial bone structure. I always forget to try to see if I can get a glimpse of her right side for comparison.  It's quite strange-looking, IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 05:41:46 PM

Originally Posted by Amil View Post
I was sitting in front of you. I was sitting next to the body language expert and the Anthonys came in and needed me to move over so the body language expert moved back a row. I ended up sitting next to Cindy's constant friend's husband. Cindy, George and the lady next to Cindy all wore "Caylee Marie Anthony" wristbands (white with purple letters). I sat behind KC. I was able to observe her ankle shackles. Cindy's knee was abouncin' nervously prior to the start of the hearing. Bill Sheaffer sat in front of me in the row reserved for attorneys. He and the strawberry blonde got caught up in chatting during the hearing and the bailiff had to come over and tell them to stop. While the bald news guy wasn't able to sit with the Anthonys this time, he did come up and give her a brief pat after the hearing. Cindy was doing her typical back-rubbing on George out at the elevators following the hearing. Going to the parking garage, the media reminded me of flies on poop the way they followed the Anthonys to their car. I did see KC's paddy wagon followed by a patrol car leaving the courthouse as I was leaving the parking garage. I spoke to the cameraman and he assures me that cameras will continue to be allowed in Judge Perry's courtroom. It was his opinion that the defense rolled the dice when they asked for Strickland to step down and they didn't bargain on getting Judge Perry.  (This is a post from WS, from one of the two posters that were there this morning)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 05:42:22 PM
The Video - I just posted - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCVALql9CJ4

Slore was doing her thing, playing with her hair, fixing her shirt ..all in face of the courtroom.
Smiles for BOBO - giggles - all is Well ....

Something clicked " OFF" with her when Judge Perry entered the room - to turn her into stone.
She was always one that had issues with Authority ..unfortunately I don't think she knows what Authority really means/meant until today.
Her reality was sweet,  quick and became painfully personal during these few short moments in the court this am ~ Priceless.. 
 :queen: :arrow: :shock:

 ::MonkeyRoll::

thanks Deenie........I noticed ..the smiles, flipping the hair, pulling her shirt and fidgeting and then she stopped, watched and listened...I didn't even see her pick up the pen and doodle or what ever it is she does usually....I think she is pretending she is a major part of the legal defense team..........not the defendant ::MonkeyTongue::

Oh yeah!
She actually is a major part of the defense team....she is their golden goose..guess to keep the gg happy they let her hold the mike button and doodle on legal pads   lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 05:52:31 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/23320617/index.html

Bill Shaeffer talks after the hearing

Thank you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 06:00:16 PM

Originally Posted by Amil View Post
I was sitting in front of you. I was sitting next to the body language expert and the Anthonys came in and needed me to move over so the body language expert moved back a row. I ended up sitting next to Cindy's constant friend's husband. Cindy, George and the lady next to Cindy all wore "Caylee Marie Anthony" wristbands (white with purple letters). I sat behind KC. I was able to observe her ankle shackles. Cindy's knee was abouncin' nervously prior to the start of the hearing. Bill Sheaffer sat in front of me in the row reserved for attorneys. He and the strawberry blonde got caught up in chatting during the hearing and the bailiff had to come over and tell them to stop. While the bald news guy wasn't able to sit with the Anthonys this time, he did come up and give her a brief pat after the hearing. Cindy was doing her typical back-rubbing on George out at the elevators following the hearing. Going to the parking garage, the media reminded me of flies on poop the way they followed the Anthonys to their car. I did see KC's paddy wagon followed by a patrol car leaving the courthouse as I was leaving the parking garage. I spoke to the cameraman and he assures me that cameras will continue to be allowed in Judge Perry's courtroom. It was his opinion that the defense rolled the dice when they asked for Strickland to step down and they didn't bargain on getting Judge Perry.  (This is a post from WS, from one of the two posters that were there this morning)

Thanks.  Great tidbits.    No mention of the peculiar choice of dress by Mrs. Bustworks.  Who in the world wears a neckline that revealing to a courtroom?    ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 06:01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Amil View Post
I was sitting in front of you. I was sitting next to the body language expert and the Anthonys came in and needed me to move over so the body language expert moved back a row. I ended up sitting next to Cindy's constant friend's husband. Cindy, George and the lady next to Cindy all wore "Caylee Marie Anthony" wristbands (white with purple letters). I sat behind KC. I was able to observe her ankle shackles. Cindy's knee was abouncin' nervously prior to the start of the hearing. Bill Sheaffer sat in front of me in the row reserved for attorneys. He and the strawberry blonde got caught up in chatting during the hearing and the bailiff had to come over and tell them to stop. While the bald news guy wasn't able to sit with the Anthonys this time, he did come up and give her a brief pat after the hearing. Cindy was doing her typical back-rubbing on George out at the elevators following the hearing. Going to the parking garage, the media reminded me of flies on poop the way they followed the Anthonys to their car. I did see KC's paddy wagon followed by a patrol car leaving the courthouse as I was leaving the parking garage. I spoke to the cameraman and he assures me that cameras will continue to be allowed in Judge Perry's courtroom. It was his opinion that the defense rolled the dice when they asked for Strickland to step down and they didn't bargain on getting Judge Perry.  (This is a post from WS, from one of the two posters that were there this morning)

Thanks.  Great tidbits.    No mention of the peculiar choice of dress by Mrs. Bustworks.  Who in the world wears a neckline that revealing to a courtroom?    ::MonkeyEek::
::MonkeyTongue:: And a shirt that George was wearing that looks like it glows in the dark?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 30, 2010, 06:05:45 PM
Hi everyone, I just got back & settled in so I have much catching up to do.   All I saw so far was that there is a motion objecting to Judge Strickland's Order (havent read it yet), while at that temporary deficit I'm gonna make a quantum leap and say it will get them nowhere but further down the slippery slope - bad move.   I doubt highly it will have any impact on Judge Strickland personally or the case no matter how hard the defense attempts to make a soap opera out of a murder trial.

Im hearing in my ear on HLN that CJBP even wanted to push up the trial date but will be within 4-5 weeks of May 9, 2011, a budget hearing next week on - Im so looking forward to viewing this.   Wow, prosecution says one day for penalty phase, defense wants a week...what does that tell yas?   OK Ill leave it there until I read back & view the hearing for myself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 06:06:05 PM
Thank you for that video Deenie, that was interesting;  I've always wondered if Casey has a tumor on her left temple above her eye or is that her normal facial bone structure. I always forget to try to see if I can get a glimpse of her right side for comparison.  It's quite strange-looking, IMO.
Ono - your not far off  -
Since she has gained weight - her face has changed extremely - its almost as if her temples have caved in - and her head GREW, Her Skull grew - not kidding. As if she missed something along the " growth pattern" from adolescents to Adult. She does exhibit some facial abnormality - compared to her previous (08/09) photos.  I wonder if it was due to her being underweight, under nourished, possibly using drugs...she is not the same person at all - that was once by looks. ( nothing to due with poor diet in jail) her features have changed tri-fold. jmo.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 06:11:25 PM

Originally Posted by Amil View Post
I was sitting in front of you. I was sitting next to the body language expert and the Anthonys came in and needed me to move over so the body language expert moved back a row. I ended up sitting next to Cindy's constant friend's husband. Cindy, George and the lady next to Cindy all wore "Caylee Marie Anthony" wristbands (white with purple letters). I sat behind KC. I was able to observe her ankle shackles. Cindy's knee was abouncin' nervously prior to the start of the hearing. Bill Sheaffer sat in front of me in the row reserved for attorneys. He and the strawberry blonde got caught up in chatting during the hearing and the bailiff had to come over and tell them to stop. While the bald news guy wasn't able to sit with the Anthonys this time, he did come up and give her a brief pat after the hearing. Cindy was doing her typical back-rubbing on George out at the elevators following the hearing. Going to the parking garage, the media reminded me of flies on poop the way they followed the Anthonys to their car. I did see KC's paddy wagon followed by a patrol car leaving the courthouse as I was leaving the parking garage. I spoke to the cameraman and he assures me that cameras will continue to be allowed in Judge Perry's courtroom. It was his opinion that the defense rolled the dice when they asked for Strickland to step down and they didn't bargain on getting Judge Perry.  (This is a post from WS, from one of the two posters that were there this morning)

thanks nrcg, interesting to get a first hand account from a non media type person


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Scatty on April 30, 2010, 06:13:24 PM
 :2thinky:
Soooo....who do you think is going to crack first and get snarky or juvenile in front of JP and get a smackdown?  :smt017
I'm placing my bet on Andrea, 'cause she may be just a shade more arrogant than the rest.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 30, 2010, 06:13:32 PM
I don't believe I have ever witnessed such a juvenile display from a group of supposed professionals, they have been stomping their collective feet when things don't go their way, they write Bozomotions that are the laughing stock of lawyers everywhere, they accidentally get an obviously soft judge kicked off the case in favor of a judge not averse to imposing the DP and to top it all off they have the gall to be offended by his honest response. I can hear Bozo now saying "yeah, I meant to get the judge kicked off the case" pfft...everyone knows he would have to be insane to want that for his client.

I think I see an "inadequate representation" down the road somewhere.  ::MonkeyMad::
Miki  I think you're right. With baez at the lead, IMO it's  a sure bet

It won't make any difference if she does file "inadequate representation" or not because she HIRED him and could have fired him at any point, so as a point of law that is a moot issue.


Whether a defendant will be sentenced to death typically depends more on the quality of his/her legal team than any other factor. She has an inexperienced Lawyer who has never tried a DP case and insists he is lead attorney on the case. People who are well represented at trial do not get the death penalty yet Baez seems to be making sure this is what will happen with his actions. KC has hired Baez thinking he was going to get her off because this is what he has told her. I don't believe that the client is expected to know the difference between adequate counsel and mediocre counsel paid or appointed, and I think as she is kept isolated from everyone and everything who she chose to represent her in a DP case is not a moot point. JMO

Actually it is, because Bozo is technically NOT her lead attorney, Lyons to date is listed as her lead attorney already qualified as a DP attorney.   She has a team, not one so due to that fact it would not succeed on appeal.   Also, it is so not always true that convicted felons do not receive the DP if they are well represented.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 06:14:55 PM

Originally Posted by Amil View Post
I was sitting in front of you. I was sitting next to the body language expert and the Anthonys came in and needed me to move over so the body language expert moved back a row. I ended up sitting next to Cindy's constant friend's husband. Cindy, George and the lady next to Cindy all wore "Caylee Marie Anthony" wristbands (white with purple letters). I sat behind KC. I was able to observe her ankle shackles. Cindy's knee was abouncin' nervously prior to the start of the hearing. Bill Sheaffer sat in front of me in the row reserved for attorneys. He and the strawberry blonde got caught up in chatting during the hearing and the bailiff had to come over and tell them to stop. While the bald news guy wasn't able to sit with the Anthonys this time, he did come up and give her a brief pat after the hearing. Cindy was doing her typical back-rubbing on George out at the elevators following the hearing. Going to the parking garage, the media reminded me of flies on poop the way they followed the Anthonys to their car. I did see KC's paddy wagon followed by a patrol car leaving the courthouse as I was leaving the parking garage. I spoke to the cameraman and he assures me that cameras will continue to be allowed in Judge Perry's courtroom. It was his opinion that the defense rolled the dice when they asked for Strickland to step down and they didn't bargain on getting Judge Perry.  (This is a post from WS, from one of the two posters that were there this morning)

Thanks.  Great tidbits.    No mention of the peculiar choice of dress by Mrs. Bustworks.  Who in the world wears a neckline that revealing to a courtroom?    ::MonkeyEek::

Ono, picture please?  I did notice kc's blouse was ironed. I think sin=sin it letter he hair grow so she be like kc..... ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 06:16:27 PM
Hi everyone, I just got back & settled in so I have much catching up to do.   All I saw so far was that there is a motion objecting to Judge Strickland's Order (havent read it yet), while at that temporary deficit I'm gonna make a quantum leap and say it will get them nowhere but further down the slippery slope - bad move.   I doubt highly it will have any impact on Judge Strickland personally or the case no matter how hard the defense attempts to make a soap opera out of a murder trial.

Im hearing in my ear on HLN that CJBP even wanted to push up the trial date but will be within 4-5 weeks of May 9, 2011, a budget hearing next week on - Im so looking forward to viewing this.   Wow, prosecution says one day for penalty phase, defense wants a week...what does that tell yas?   OK Ill leave it there until I read back & view the hearing for myself.

Hurry back!;   A. L. wants plenty of drama time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 06:17:15 PM
Hi everyone, I just got back & settled in so I have much catching up to do.   All I saw so far was that there is a motion objecting to Judge Strickland's Order (havent read it yet), while at that temporary deficit I'm gonna make a quantum leap and say it will get them nowhere but further down the slippery slope - bad move.   I doubt highly it will have any impact on Judge Strickland personally or the case no matter how hard the defense attempts to make a soap opera out of a murder trial.

Im hearing in my ear on HLN that CJBP even wanted to push up the trial date but will be within 4-5 weeks of May 9, 2011, a budget hearing next week on - Im so looking forward to viewing this.   Wow, prosecution says one day for penalty phase, defense wants a week...what does that tell yas?   OK Ill leave it there until I read back & view the hearing for myself.
Capp I hope all went well for you today.  That your Family is at Peace.
Just offering you the first rendition that you may not find on any media site - the jump start of the court room http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCVALql9CJ4
Other than that you will be able to view at your leisure the rest of Court presented today on vid- within the known Florida media sites.
I was thinking of you today
Wishing at one point you were here with us - that you would open up your can of Whoop A on Bozo - You were here in Spirit!   We all await for your " Commentary" For Caylee 
 ::dogwag::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 06:19:07 PM
Hi everyone, I just got back & settled in so I have much catching up to do.   All I saw so far was that there is a motion objecting to Judge Strickland's Order (havent read it yet), while at that temporary deficit I'm gonna make a quantum leap and say it will get them nowhere but further down the slippery slope - bad move.   I doubt highly it will have any impact on Judge Strickland personally or the case no matter how hard the defense attempts to make a soap opera out of a murder trial.

Im hearing in my ear on HLN that CJBP even wanted to push up the trial date but will be within 4-5 weeks of May 9, 2011, a budget hearing next week on - Im so looking forward to viewing this.   Wow, prosecution says one day for penalty phase, defense wants a week...what does that tell yas?   OK Ill leave it there until I read back & view the hearing for myself.

Hurry back!;   A. L. wants plenty of drama time.
AL's prolly getting a turbo transmission installed on the bus for penalty phase, there will be lots of going forward and backing up all over the A's   ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 06:21:18 PM

Originally Posted by Amil View Post
I was sitting in front of you. I was sitting next to the body language expert and the Anthonys came in and needed me to move over so the body language expert moved back a row. I ended up sitting next to Cindy's constant friend's husband. Cindy, George and the lady next to Cindy all wore "Caylee Marie Anthony" wristbands (white with purple letters). I sat behind KC. I was able to observe her ankle shackles. Cindy's knee was abouncin' nervously prior to the start of the hearing. Bill Sheaffer sat in front of me in the row reserved for attorneys. He and the strawberry blonde got caught up in chatting during the hearing and the bailiff had to come over and tell them to stop. While the bald news guy wasn't able to sit with the Anthonys this time, he did come up and give her a brief pat after the hearing. Cindy was doing her typical back-rubbing on George out at the elevators following the hearing. Going to the parking garage, the media reminded me of flies on poop the way they followed the Anthonys to their car. I did see KC's paddy wagon followed by a patrol car leaving the courthouse as I was leaving the parking garage. I spoke to the cameraman and he assures me that cameras will continue to be allowed in Judge Perry's courtroom. It was his opinion that the defense rolled the dice when they asked for Strickland to step down and they didn't bargain on getting Judge Perry.  (This is a post from WS, from one of the two posters that were there this morning)

Thanks.  Great tidbits.    No mention of the peculiar choice of dress by Mrs. Bustworks.  Who in the world wears a neckline that revealing to a courtroom?    ::MonkeyEek::

Ono, picture please?  I did notice kc's blouse was ironed. I think sin=sin it letter he hair grow so she be like kc..... ::MonkeyDevil::

Play Deenie's video---you'll get a gander-the woman sitting next to CinCin-I think she is the real estate maven.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 06:27:10 PM
I finally found a short article on the motion regarding KC's visitor log.

(Again, my apologies for causing a problem on the thread last night).

Casey defense files motion to seal jail visit records
By
Robyn Sidersky
@ April 30, 2010 5:48 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
Casey Anthony's defense team filed a motion Friday to block to the release of jail visiting log records from the public.

The defense claims in the motion that "the media is constantly aware of any visits that the Defendant has." They also claim that the visits reveal the identity of any expert witnesses that may visit Casey in the jail.

Their concern is the "ability to maintain confidentiality of these visits prohibits them from being able to properly prepare her case for trial."


http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/casey-defense-files-motion-to.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 06:31:51 PM
I finally found a short article on the motion regarding KC's visitor log.

(Again, my apologies for causing a problem on the thread last night).

Casey defense files motion to seal jail visit records
By
Robyn Sidersky
@ April 30, 2010 5:48 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
Casey Anthony's defense team filed a motion Friday to block to the release of jail visiting log records from the public.

The defense claims in the motion that "the media is constantly aware of any visits that the Defendant has." They also claim that the visits reveal the identity of any expert witnesses that may visit Casey in the jail.

Their concern is the "ability to maintain confidentiality of these visits prohibits them from being able to properly prepare her case for trial."


http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/casey-defense-files-motion-to.html

Hmmm...wonder who they're trying to get in there?  Maybe they don't like that ppl. put together when she signs things such as the motions, they're used to doing things in a shady way, puts a cramp in their style?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 06:32:20 PM

Originally Posted by Amil View Post
I was sitting in front of you. I was sitting next to the body language expert and the Anthonys came in and needed me to move over so the body language expert moved back a row. I ended up sitting next to Cindy's constant friend's husband. Cindy, George and the lady next to Cindy all wore "Caylee Marie Anthony" wristbands (white with purple letters). I sat behind KC. I was able to observe her ankle shackles. Cindy's knee was abouncin' nervously prior to the start of the hearing. Bill Sheaffer sat in front of me in the row reserved for attorneys. He and the strawberry blonde got caught up in chatting during the hearing and the bailiff had to come over and tell them to stop. While the bald news guy wasn't able to sit with the Anthonys this time, he did come up and give her a brief pat after the hearing. Cindy was doing her typical back-rubbing on George out at the elevators following the hearing. Going to the parking garage, the media reminded me of flies on poop the way they followed the Anthonys to their car. I did see KC's paddy wagon followed by a patrol car leaving the courthouse as I was leaving the parking garage. I spoke to the cameraman and he assures me that cameras will continue to be allowed in Judge Perry's courtroom. It was his opinion that the defense rolled the dice when they asked for Strickland to step down and they didn't bargain on getting Judge Perry.  (This is a post from WS, from one of the two posters that were there this morning)

Thanks.  Great tidbits.    No mention of the peculiar choice of dress by Mrs. Bustworks.  Who in the world wears a neckline that revealing to a courtroom?    ::MonkeyEek::

Ono, picture please?  I did notice kc's blouse was ironed. I think sin=sin it letter he hair grow so she be like kc..... ::MonkeyDevil::

Play Deenie's video---you'll get a gander-the woman sitting next to CinCin-I think she is the real estate maven.

Is this the same  "Mrs. Bustworks"?

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x161/need2no/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/DonnaGlennCoxrealtors2.jpg)

(Donna Glenn, Cox realtors)

http://www.movehomenow.com/bin/web/real_estate/AR146593/AGENTS/DETAIL/SEQ23774/1243948546.html?category_val=
(http://mfr.mlxchange.com/MFRImages/215/8407_1_28.JPG)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 06:32:34 PM
:2thinky:
Soooo....who do you think is going to crack first and get snarky or juvenile in front of JP and get a smackdown?  :smt017
I'm placing my bet on Andrea, 'cause she may be just a shade more arrogant than the rest.

Well, IMO, we've already seen Baez be impolite to the judge so we can already put him under the arrogant heading!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 06:32:45 PM
The Video - I just posted - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCVALql9CJ4

Slore was doing her thing, playing with her hair, fixing her shirt ..all in face of the courtroom.
Smiles for BOBO - giggles - all is Well ....

Something clicked " OFF" with her when Judge Perry entered the room - to turn her into stone.
She was always one that had issues with Authority ..unfortunately I don't think she knows what Authority really means/meant until today.
Her reality was sweet,  quick and became painfully personal during these few short moments in the court this am ~ Priceless.. 
 :queen: :arrow: :shock:

 ::MonkeyRoll::

thanks Deenie........I noticed ..the smiles, flipping the hair, pulling her shirt and fidgeting and then she stopped, watched and listened...I didn't even see her pick up the pen and doodle or what ever it is she does usually....I think she is pretending she is a major part of the legal defense team..........not the defendant ::MonkeyTongue::

Oh yeah!
She actually is a major part of the defense team....she is their golden goose..guess to keep the gg happy they let her hold the mike button and doodle on legal pads   lol
ITA - Casey does not seem to acknowledge " EVER " that she is the reason Why all parties are present ..she is so OUT there  - Yet she is not Mentally Ill - she is trained from day one by her own conditioning.  She can escape within a heart beat and fall into her dream world - Anyone that " could possibly be" IN JAIL all this time and Only think about  Boys, Toys, RV's and New BFF's ... Who does not acknowledge to anyone - let alone herself. That Caylee is was her Daughter and she is Dead.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: she is not fooling anyone.
All her Letters show " She lives in Conscience World" its just not present - She is from the Date of June 16, 2008 - DREAMING about her NEW Life. She is that self indulgent that she is still Living the DREAM. And she believes in her tiny little Mind that Its still feasible.  Caylee or no Caylee she is on a mission. She is a cold, heartless, wrench of a Human Being. She even states in her letters - She is planning on Changing her Looks/hair/eye color with contacts/creating a new name - first and last. When she gets out - She wrote in her letters people will walk up to me and ask - " IS that Casey Anthony" And she said I will Laugh ..as I  keep on walking.  This B is not Crazy she is Sly as a Fox. I Loathe Her - as All do.
  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 06:33:43 PM
Hi everyone, I just got back & settled in so I have much catching up to do.   All I saw so far was that there is a motion objecting to Judge Strickland's Order (havent read it yet), while at that temporary deficit I'm gonna make a quantum leap and say it will get them nowhere but further down the slippery slope - bad move.   I doubt highly it will have any impact on Judge Strickland personally or the case no matter how hard the defense attempts to make a soap opera out of a murder trial.

Im hearing in my ear on HLN that CJBP even wanted to push up the trial date but will be within 4-5 weeks of May 9, 2011, a budget hearing next week on - Im so looking forward to viewing this.   Wow, prosecution says one day for penalty phase, defense wants a week...what does that tell yas?   OK Ill leave it there until I read back & view the hearing for myself.

Hurry back!;   A. L. wants plenty of drama time.
AL's prolly getting a turbo transmission installed on the bus for penalty phase, there will be lots of going forward and backing up all over the A's   ::rhino::

No doubt.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 06:37:11 PM

Originally Posted by Amil View Post
I was sitting in front of you. I was sitting next to the body language expert and the Anthonys came in and needed me to move over so the body language expert moved back a row. I ended up sitting next to Cindy's constant friend's husband. Cindy, George and the lady next to Cindy all wore "Caylee Marie Anthony" wristbands (white with purple letters). I sat behind KC. I was able to observe her ankle shackles. Cindy's knee was abouncin' nervously prior to the start of the hearing. Bill Sheaffer sat in front of me in the row reserved for attorneys. He and the strawberry blonde got caught up in chatting during the hearing and the bailiff had to come over and tell them to stop. While the bald news guy wasn't able to sit with the Anthonys this time, he did come up and give her a brief pat after the hearing. Cindy was doing her typical back-rubbing on George out at the elevators following the hearing. Going to the parking garage, the media reminded me of flies on poop the way they followed the Anthonys to their car. I did see KC's paddy wagon followed by a patrol car leaving the courthouse as I was leaving the parking garage. I spoke to the cameraman and he assures me that cameras will continue to be allowed in Judge Perry's courtroom. It was his opinion that the defense rolled the dice when they asked for Strickland to step down and they didn't bargain on getting Judge Perry.  (This is a post from WS, from one of the two posters that were there this morning)

Thanks.  Great tidbits.    No mention of the peculiar choice of dress by Mrs. Bustworks.  Who in the world wears a neckline that revealing to a courtroom?    ::MonkeyEek::

Ono, picture please?  I did notice kc's blouse was ironed. I think sin=sin it letter he hair grow so she be like kc..... ::MonkeyDevil::

Play Deenie's video---you'll get a gander-the woman sitting next to CinCin-I think she is the real estate maven.

Is this the same  "Mrs. Bustworks"?

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x161/need2no/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/DonnaGlennCoxrealtors2.jpg)

(Donna Glenn, Cox realtors)

http://www.movehomenow.com/bin/web/real_estate/AR146593/AGENTS/DETAIL/SEQ23774/1243948546.html?category_val=
(http://mfr.mlxchange.com/MFRImages/215/8407_1_28.JPG)


You'll have to look and compare.  Seems as tho your photos are from some time ago if they are the same people.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 06:37:26 PM
:2thinky:
Soooo....who do you think is going to crack first and get snarky or juvenile in front of JP and get a smackdown?  :smt017
I'm placing my bet on Andrea, 'cause she may be just a shade more arrogant than the rest.

Well, if Bozo doesn't beat her to it, she is a likely candidate. 

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Opera_singer_2.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 06:38:30 PM
Ooops---I posted within your post.   I think it is the same people--only older now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Tevye on April 30, 2010, 06:39:28 PM
OMG, even at worse times with two teen girls it was nothing like that, what a ridiculous thing to say. They are all living on a parallel universe.  ::MonkeyShocked::
Now, don't make me bring out the TARDIS. The Doctor gets very insulted when one of his universes is threatened with the presence of the Ants. Maybe a one-way trip????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 30, 2010, 06:40:09 PM
Hi everyone, I just got back & settled in so I have much catching up to do.   All I saw so far was that there is a motion objecting to Judge Strickland's Order (havent read it yet), while at that temporary deficit I'm gonna make a quantum leap and say it will get them nowhere but further down the slippery slope - bad move.   I doubt highly it will have any impact on Judge Strickland personally or the case no matter how hard the defense attempts to make a soap opera out of a murder trial.

Im hearing in my ear on HLN that CJBP even wanted to push up the trial date but will be within 4-5 weeks of May 9, 2011, a budget hearing next week on - Im so looking forward to viewing this.   Wow, prosecution says one day for penalty phase, defense wants a week...what does that tell yas?   OK Ill leave it there until I read back & view the hearing for myself.
Capp I hope all went well for you today.  That your Family is at Peace.
Just offering you the first rendition that you may not find on any media site - the jump start of the court room http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCVALql9CJ4
Other than that you will be able to view at your leisure the rest of Court presented today on vid- within the known Florida media sites.
I was thinking of you today
Wishing at one point you were here with us - that you would open up your can of Whoop A on Bozo - You were here in Spirit!   We all await for your " Commentary" For Caylee 
 ::dogwag::


Thank you so much Deenie, I felt monkey love with me & it helped hold up my wounded wings.   It was a beautiful service & although I will miss her so very much I know she is at peace & soaring with the angels now.   I just watched the pretrial video you provided, tks iit gave me a bird's eye view of the dynamics before the hearing I did not want to miss.    No surprirse Cindy seems to think this is a movie of the week instead of the pretrial hearing due to her granddaughter being murdered.   It sickens me to see her stretch her neck & look lovingly at the monster she created knowing she has to know Casey killed Caylee.  The Anthonys continue to revolt me, their arrogance & hypocritical conduct just worsens how repulsive they are.   Casey could care less they are in the room, but we've seen that every time thus far.   You could tell Casey was combating nerves, as well as the Anthonys - their brave front was transparent, same with Bozo.     OK, now off to view the hearing & read back.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 30, 2010, 06:44:52 PM
OMG, even at worse times with two teen girls it was nothing like that, what a ridiculous thing to say. They are all living on a parallel universe.  ::MonkeyShocked::
Now, don't make me bring out the TARDIS. The Doctor gets very insulted when one of his universes is threatened with the presence of the Ants. Maybe a one-way trip????
::MonkeyTongue:: Here are a few more tidbits from a poster at WS who was there at the hearing this morning.         
Casey's hair is very long now. She's more petite than I thought, I always imagined her to be a bit bigger than me from the pictures but I suppose the camera does add weight.

Cindy turned to the woman on her right and gave her a "look" when Jose referred to "new science" - air samples. I wondered what that look meant, and more so who the lady was.

Some lady with curly strawberry blond hair was sitting in front of Cindy. At one point her head was ducked and a deputy in the courtroom leaned over to say something to her. I didn't hear what was said though.

Cindy kept playing with her fingers - I guess she couldn't chew gum anymore? George looked as if he'd dyed the tops of his eyebrows. His shirt sure was...bright.

Conway arrived well before Cindy & George, though I thought they all rode together. There were two other ladies with brunette short hair sitting on the defense side as well, I had never seen them before - anyone know who they are? One very petite lady (I am assuming she was a journalist) was sitting on the defense side and her and I were in the elevator together on the way down. (I waited because I didn't want to get in the elevator with the A's or any of the media..) Not sure who she was but she was very nice, she wished me good luck on my baby as I exited the elevator and that made my day. Haha.

I was surprised at Baez actually using the phrase "Your Honor" though he didn't say it all the time.

Where I was sitting, though a few rows back, I was pretty much directly behind Casey. Never saw her turn around once. To me, that just says something is up..because she only gets such limited chances to see her parents - you'd think she'd at least smile at them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 06:47:39 PM
Hi everyone, I just got back & settled in so I have much catching up to do.   All I saw so far was that there is a motion objecting to Judge Strickland's Order (havent read it yet), while at that temporary deficit I'm gonna make a quantum leap and say it will get them nowhere but further down the slippery slope - bad move.   I doubt highly it will have any impact on Judge Strickland personally or the case no matter how hard the defense attempts to make a soap opera out of a murder trial.

Im hearing in my ear on HLN that CJBP even wanted to push up the trial date but will be within 4-5 weeks of May 9, 2011, a budget hearing next week on - Im so looking forward to viewing this.   Wow, prosecution says one day for penalty phase, defense wants a week...what does that tell yas?   OK Ill leave it there until I read back & view the hearing for myself.
Capp I hope all went well for you today.  That your Family is at Peace.
Just offering you the first rendition that you may not find on any media site - the jump start of the court room http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCVALql9CJ4
Other than that you will be able to view at your leisure the rest of Court presented today on vid- within the known Florida media sites.
I was thinking of you today
Wishing at one point you were here with us - that you would open up your can of Whoop A on Bozo - You were here in Spirit!   We all await for your " Commentary" For Caylee 
 ::dogwag::


Thank you so much Deenie, I felt monkey love with me & it helped hold up my wounded wings.   It was a beautiful service & although I will miss her so very much I know she is at peace & soaring with the angels now.   I just watched the pretrial video you provided, tks iit gave me a bird's eye view of the dynamics before the hearing I did not want to miss.    No surprirse Cindy seems to think this is a movie of the week instead of the pretrial hearing due to her granddaughter being murdered.   It sickens me to see her stretch her neck & look lovingly at the monster she created knowing she has to know Casey killed Caylee.  The Anthonys continue to revolt me, their arrogance & hypocritical conduct just worsens how repulsive they are.   Casey could care less they are in the room, but we've seen that every time thus far.   You could tell Casey was combating nerves, as well as the Anthonys - their brave front was transparent, same with Bozo.     OK, now off to view the hearing & read back.
First I offer you :smt056 ~    2nd :2whip: Go Capp Go.. Right on. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Scatty on April 30, 2010, 06:50:49 PM
:2thinky:
Soooo....who do you think is going to crack first and get snarky or juvenile in front of JP and get a smackdown?  :smt017
I'm placing my bet on Andrea, 'cause she may be just a shade more arrogant than the rest.

Well, if Bozo doesn't beat her to it, she is a likely candidate. 

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Opera_singer_2.gif)


OMG!!! I love your "Brunhilda" Lyon!!! ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 06:53:25 PM
Ooops---I posted within your post.   I think it is the same people--only older now.

You're right.  That pic looks like about 20 years old.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

This is the best I could find on video (although I remember seeing her come in & it was quite the sight!)

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/43010.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 06:57:20 PM
Cece:  Mrs. Bustworks [ & her hubby I think, the real estate people ? ] were sitting next to CinCin on her right.  Mrs. Bustworks had on a brown dress with a very plunging neckline.  I kept waiting for a "Janet Jackson" moment.  The gentleman looks like the real estate man, only older now, than those photos of yours.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 06:58:47 PM
 ::MonkeyHaHa::    Cece ...lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 06:58:54 PM
OMG, even at worse times with two teen girls it was nothing like that, what a ridiculous thing to say. They are all living on a parallel universe.  ::MonkeyShocked::
Now, don't make me bring out the TARDIS. The Doctor gets very insulted when one of his universes is threatened with the presence of the Ants. Maybe a one-way trip????
::MonkeyTongue:: Here are a few more tidbits from a poster at WS who was there at the hearing this morning.         
Casey's hair is very long now. She's more petite than I thought, I always imagined her to be a bit bigger than me from the pictures but I suppose the camera does add weight.

Cindy turned to the woman on her right and gave her a "look" when Jose referred to "new science" - air samples. I wondered what that look meant, and more so who the lady was.

Some lady with curly strawberry blond hair was sitting in front of Cindy. At one point her head was ducked and a deputy in the courtroom leaned over to say something to her. I didn't hear what was said though.

Cindy kept playing with her fingers - I guess she couldn't chew gum anymore? George looked as if he'd dyed the tops of his eyebrows. His shirt sure was...bright.

Conway arrived well before Cindy & George, though I thought they all rode together. There were two other ladies with brunette short hair sitting on the defense side as well, I had never seen them before - anyone know who they are? One very petite lady (I am assuming she was a journalist) was sitting on the defense side and her and I were in the elevator together on the way down. (I waited because I didn't want to get in the elevator with the A's or any of the media..) Not sure who she was but she was very nice, she wished me good luck on my baby as I exited the elevator and that made my day. Haha.

I was surprised at Baez actually using the phrase "Your Honor" though he didn't say it all the time.

Where I was sitting, though a few rows back, I was pretty much directly behind Casey. Never saw her turn around once. To me, that just says something is up..because she only gets such limited chances to see her parents - you'd think she'd at least smile at them.
Thank you NoRose - I am sure that was a very objective opinion - from that person - Omg the courtroom itself was enough to make a crooked man walk straight ...as I said from the get go - The room itself was Bigger than Life ( In court I mean) before Judge Perry even entered- then it all changed yet again. Quite the Serious AIR of Energy - I could feel it through my PC screen.   ::MonkeyWink::  I wonder though what CA/GA are talking about at this moment ... or are they taking naps in separate rooms. Cindy with her Panda's & Dogs in the master bedroom and George on the couch in the main room.
Wonder what LEE is thinking ? His Sister is no longer the "glossed over protected by Bobo Girly Girl " she is now ~ Judge Perry's .. Center of Attention. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 06:58:55 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/23309998/detail.html

WHAT'S NEXT IN THE CASE?

Here's what's expected to come up next in the case against Casey Anthony.

Tuesday, there will be a pre-trial hearing in the civil case filed by Zenaida Gonzalez against Casey.

Thursday, attorneys will be in court to decide how much taxpayer money Casey's defense team will get to try the murder case.

The following week, a hearing will be held to review any outstanding motions regarding the death penalty.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 07:01:24 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-perry-hearing-20100430,0,6002860.story

New Casey Anthony judge mulls jury options
Chief Judge Belvin Perry Jr. set an aggressive pace in his first hearing on the case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 30, 2010, 07:02:24 PM
Bobo just said he is excited to have Judge Perry on the case.  Bobo felt they had the preofessional responsibility to file the motion against Stan.

Go figure, well we will just have to remind Bozo what the Florida Bar's professional responsibility is when he finally gets disbarred, and it will happen.   PS....Bozo's nose is growing


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 07:04:51 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/23309998/detail.html

WHAT'S NEXT IN THE CASE?

Here's what's expected to come up next in the case against Casey Anthony.

Tuesday, there will be a pre-trial hearing in the civil case filed by Zenaida Gonzalez against Casey.

Thursday, attorneys will be in court to decide how much taxpayer money Casey's defense team will get to try the murder case.

The following week, a hearing will be held to review any outstanding motions regarding the death penalty.
I wonder if Cindy is going to be able to keep herself in control  or is she going to DEMAND
" This Time" She has something to SAY and she wants it to be on Record. This is her last chance to speak in the case of ZG.  Her last and final ~ its quite apparent that within the Trial "State vs Casey Anthony"  -" ZG " the real woman" is not going to be part of the trial.
Its all about "Casey" her wish granted


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 07:05:27 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/23309998/detail.html

WHAT'S NEXT IN THE CASE?

Here's what's expected to come up next in the case against Casey Anthony.

Tuesday, there will be a pre-trial hearing in the civil case filed by Zenaida Gonzalez against Casey.

Thursday, attorneys will be in court to decide how much taxpayer money Casey's defense team will get to try the murder case.

The following week, a hearing will be held to review any outstanding motions regarding the death penalty.


Next Tuesday ... Thursday ...and then the following week---it's like we've won the Florida Lottery!   LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 30, 2010, 07:06:23 PM
:2thinky:
Soooo....who do you think is going to crack first and get snarky or juvenile in front of JP and get a smackdown?  :smt017
I'm placing my bet on Andrea, 'cause she may be just a shade more arrogant than the rest.

Well, if Bozo doesn't beat her to it, she is a likely candidate. 

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Opera_singer_2.gif)


OMG!!! I love your "Brunhilda" Lyon!!! ::MonkeyLaugh::


OMG that is even better than my Ursula from The Little Mermaid reference....that is spot on & hysterical, and boy could I use that giggle this week!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 30, 2010, 07:09:06 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/23309998/detail.html

WHAT'S NEXT IN THE CASE?

Here's what's expected to come up next in the case against Casey Anthony.

Tuesday, there will be a pre-trial hearing in the civil case filed by Zenaida Gonzalez against Casey.

Thursday, attorneys will be in court to decide how much taxpayer money Casey's defense team will get to try the murder case.

The following week, a hearing will be held to review any outstanding motions regarding the death penalty.


Next Tuesday ... Thursday ...and then the following week---it's like we've won the Florida Lottery!   LOL

OMG, CHBP is like bam-bam with a gavel....budget, check - death penalty, nice try - change of venue, I'll think about it (not) Next?  BAM BAM   BAM BAM BAM  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 07:10:27 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/23309998/detail.html

WHAT'S NEXT IN THE CASE?

Here's what's expected to come up next in the case against Casey Anthony.

Tuesday, there will be a pre-trial hearing in the civil case filed by Zenaida Gonzalez against Casey.

Thursday, attorneys will be in court to decide how much taxpayer money Casey's defense team will get to try the murder case.

The following week, a hearing will be held to review any outstanding motions regarding the death penalty.


Next Tuesday ... Thursday ...and then the following week---it's like we've won the Florida Lottery!   LOL

OMG, CHBP is like bam-bam with a gavel....budget, check - death penalty, nice try - change of venue, I'll think about it (not) Next?  BAM BAM   BAM BAM BAM  ::MonkeyGavel::

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 07:16:26 PM
Bobo just said he is excited to have Judge Perry on the case.  Bobo felt they had the preofessional responsibility to file the motion against Stan.

Go figure, well we will just have to remind Bozo what the Florida Bar's professional responsibility is when he finally gets disbarred, and it will happen.   PS....Bozo's nose is growing

NOT a comment of Baez but of  " Judge Perry " today - Did anyone notice he was racking his foot against the base of his chair ? that the chair behind him * head rest* was gearing up for " take off " - OMG it went from a soft pace to ..Off the hook ..depending on who answered his questions ... I loved it.

Not to compare Judge Perry with anyone.  This probably won't make any sense unless you know of him - Jesse Ventura, He does the same thing when he is being interviewed.. he is either straight as an arrow or his chair is ready to blast off .. he can't keep it still when he believes in something he is speaking of ~ or when he is being challenged in good faith.


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Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 07:16:56 PM
http://www.thenewdaymare.blogspot.com/

Judge Perry is awesome !

Chat times 6pm-9pm daily

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Friday, April 30, 2010
Judge Perry is awesome !
Wow .



 Thats my first response to todays hearing ! I'm totally in LOVE with Judge Perry. He allows for no courtroom drama and cracks his whip to keep things down to business. Perry doesn't seem to care for alot of talking , get to the point and keep it moving .  According to Perry status hearings will be every 45 days in the case. May  6, 10  and 11 we will be having hearings and motions.v Scheduled trial start date of May 9, 2011 was also agreed upon. Mason and Baez looked leashed, no outrageous facial expressions from either one, or continuous talking , though Baez did give it a try . When asked how long it will take the prosecution to explain their side at trial , ashton serves a bitch slap with 1 day

cont.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 30, 2010, 07:20:42 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

O the Anthonys are nervousing - Cindy showed her usual sarcasm & thinks she's clever...catch the smirk.  The Anthonys wouldnt know "respectable" if it bite them where the sun doesnt shine....beeotch please.   I actually think they are going home to cry in their cornflakes.   NO MORE CRAB CAKES FOR YOU!

I had doubts a change of venue with JS would be granted, now it appears that CHBP is inclined to pool the jury from other districts & keep it in Orlando...the defense wants to talk about cost, well that cuts both ways. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 30, 2010, 07:22:50 PM
http://www.thenewdaymare.blogspot.com/

Judge Perry is awesome !

Chat times 6pm-9pm daily

[ Copy this | Start New | Full Size ]
Friday, April 30, 2010
Judge Perry is awesome !
Wow .



 Thats my first response to todays hearing ! I'm totally in LOVE with Judge Perry. He allows for no courtroom drama and cracks his whip to keep things down to business. Perry doesn't seem to care for alot of talking , get to the point and keep it moving .  According to Perry status hearings will be every 45 days in the case. May  6, 10  and 11 we will be having hearings and motions.v Scheduled trial start date of May 9, 2011 was also agreed upon. Mason and Baez looked leashed, no outrageous facial expressions from either one, or continuous talking , though Baez did give it a try . When asked how long it will take the prosecution to explain their side at trial , ashton serves a bitch slap with 1 day

cont.


To me, this is the message of the day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 07:25:23 PM
http://humbleopinionforum.net/2010/04/30/the-hearing-today-30-april-2010/

No motions were discussed today!  But the Judge is pretty good about asking the questions. Many questions were answered by of course Baez was giving his opinion and avoiding the questions, the Judge would repeat the questions.

The Judge asked about sequestering the Jury, of course the defense team was not sure of it!

9 May 2011 is still the trial date!  The Judge wanted it to be set earlier.  The earlier the better, I say!

May 9, 10, 11 2010 will be the hearings for the motions.  May 7, 2010 will be the hearing for the “give us the money” hearing!

Of course C&G were there, no chomping in the court room today, guess Cindy had a bad back as she couldn’t sit up straight, but could mouth to the brat kid she loved her.  I guess we all know she loves her……she has lied numerous times for the brat!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 30, 2010, 07:27:21 PM
So when a jury is sequestered like that, for so long, are the alternatives sequestered as well? 
I don't understand the process of " Sequestering a Jury pool"  how would the courts " take on this" in order for it to be effective ?  Judge Perry mentioned demographics today .. I don't understand how a jury is Sequestered ??

Wkys enlighten me ?  I have received in the mail " Jury Duty" notice years ago but I was "not a fit within the criteria" .. to be a Juror.   


I have limited knowledge of it.  I could be wrong, this is the way I understand it...

A jury is given like a whole floor of rooms in a hotel, say the 8th floor or such.  Where they cannot just step outside or have unauthorized contact very easily.  Guards are stationed at the elevator/stairs, they are not allowed to go anywhere unescorted, no one else is allowed up.  They will be escorted to and from the courtroom.  That's it, they go nowhere else.  Their meals are brought in, they are not allowed TV, radio, magazines, computers, cell phones.  They can have CD music, approved movies and other activities like chess/checkers/cards/games/etc.  If allowed newspapers, all pertinent info to the case will be cut out first.  (holes in paper).  They are not allowed to have visits or make phone calls.  Seems this jury will be allowed to have phone calls with family on Sundays, but those will be recorded, and am sure they will be instructed not to talk about the case at all.  They have to stay in seclusion for the length of the trial, and the time it takes to decide the trial.  They aren't even supposed to talk about the case with each other until they are instructed by the judge to meet together and decide the case.  Supposedly if any juror deviates from any of this, they can be excused by the judge and an alternate brought in to replace.  An alternate will replace in the case of a juror having an emergency at home.  If they get homesick or hate being sequestered, it's basically tough luck. 

I just don't know if alternates are sequestered along with the main jury. 

Seems they would be, just in case they are needed to replace one of the others.  But then there will be another alternate added to the backup.  (there usually are two alternatives in the jury wings).  Am thinking that those two and all the would be alternates would have to be sequestered too, just in case needed.  Cuz otherwise, if they ever are needed, they would have spent a portion of the trial within contact with media and others etc. 

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 30, 2010, 07:29:53 PM
So when a jury is sequestered like that, for so long, are the alternatives sequestered as well? 

Yes.

Thanks Ono! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 07:32:37 PM
Casey Anthony Prime News part 1:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/a/u/1/JDEq7oZaTTM

Casey Anthony Prime News part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/a/u/0/KlvyRGRlyNo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 07:35:34 PM
Bugs Bunny ~ His recollection

 Of " cough " Death Row Witch ..I mean Granny the Professor ~ who rides side saddle  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://www.youtube.com/v/bEalL-toaPI&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 07:42:52 PM
So when a jury is sequestered like that, for so long, are the alternatives sequestered as well? 
I don't understand the process of " Sequestering a Jury pool"  how would the courts " take on this" in order for it to be effective ?  Judge Perry mentioned demographics today .. I don't understand how a jury is Sequestered ??

Wkys enlighten me ?  I have received in the mail " Jury Duty" notice years ago but I was "not a fit within the criteria" .. to be a Juror.   


I have limited knowledge of it.  I could be wrong, this is the way I understand it...

A jury is given like a whole floor of rooms in a hotel, say the 8th floor or such.  Where they cannot just step outside or have unauthorized contact very easily.  Guards are stationed at the elevator/stairs, they are not allowed to go anywhere unescorted, no one else is allowed up.  They will be escorted to and from the courtroom.  That's it, they go nowhere else.  Their meals are brought in, they are not allowed TV, radio, magazines, computers, cell phones.  They can have CD music, approved movies and other activities like chess/checkers/cards/games/etc.  If allowed newspapers, all pertinent info to the case will be cut out first.  (holes in paper).  They are not allowed to have visits or make phone calls.  Seems this jury will be allowed to have phone calls with family on Sundays, but those will be recorded, and am sure they will be instructed not to talk about the case at all.  They have to stay in seclusion for the length of the trial, and the time it takes to decide the trial.  They aren't even supposed to talk about the case with each other until they are instructed by the judge to meet together and decide the case.  Supposedly if any juror deviates from any of this, they can be excused by the judge and an alternate brought in to replace.  An alternate will replace in the case of a juror having an emergency at home.  If they get homesick or hate being sequestered, it's basically tough luck. 

I just don't know if alternates are sequestered along with the main jury. 

Seems they would be, just in case they are needed to replace one of the others.  But then there will be another alternate added to the backup.  (there usually are two alternatives in the jury wings).  Am thinking that those two and all the would be alternates would have to be sequestered too, just in case needed.  Cuz otherwise, if they ever are needed, they would have spent a portion of the trial within contact with media and others etc. 
 
Thank you Wyks for your explanation 
How do they choose who is to be sequestered ? I am sorry if I sound redundant I just don't understand the picking / choosing process ?  How many people do they have to go through in order to " Pick"  jurors ... that will  be in the status that you stated above - for the longevity of the trial. 
Its confusing to me :( 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 07:44:37 PM
The Video - I just posted - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCVALql9CJ4

Slore was doing her thing, playing with her hair, fixing her shirt ..all in face of the courtroom.
Smiles for BOBO - giggles - all is Well ....

Something clicked " OFF" with her when Judge Perry entered the room - to turn her into stone.
She was always one that had issues with Authority ..unfortunately I don't think she knows what Authority really means/meant until today.
Her reality was sweet,  quick and became painfully personal during these few short moments in the court this am ~ Priceless.. 
 :queen: :arrow: :shock:

 ::MonkeyRoll::

thanks Deenie........I noticed ..the smiles, flipping the hair, pulling her shirt and fidgeting and then she stopped, watched and listened...I didn't even see her pick up the pen and doodle or what ever it is she does usually....I think she is pretending she is a major part of the legal defense team..........not the defendant ::MonkeyTongue::

Oh yeah!
She actually is a major part of the defense team....she is their golden goose..guess to keep the gg happy they let her hold the mike button and doodle on legal pads   lol
ITA - Casey does not seem to acknowledge " EVER " that she is the reason Why all parties are present ..she is so OUT there  - Yet she is not Mentally Ill - she is trained from day one by her own conditioning.  She can escape within a heart beat and fall into her dream world - Anyone that " could possibly be" IN JAIL all this time and Only think about  Boys, Toys, RV's and New BFF's ... Who does not acknowledge to anyone - let alone herself. That Caylee is was her Daughter and she is Dead.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: she is not fooling anyone.
All her Letters show " She lives in Conscience World" its just not present - She is from the Date of June 16, 2008 - DREAMING about her NEW Life. She is that self indulgent that she is still Living the DREAM. And she believes in her tiny little Mind that Its still feasible.  Caylee or no Caylee she is on a mission. She is a cold, heartless, wrench of a Human Being. She even states in her letters - She is planning on Changing her Looks/hair/eye color with contacts/creating a new name - first and last. When she gets out - She wrote in her letters people will walk up to me and ask - " IS that Casey Anthony" And she said I will Laugh ..as I  keep on walking.  This B is not Crazy she is Sly as a Fox. I Loathe Her - as All do.
  ::MonkeyMad::

Deenie,I so agree with you.Sly like a Fox.
She acts like she is zoning out,but I think she is fantasizing about the evil she would like to perpetrate on anyone or thing that gets in her way.
She was nervous today,but if given the opportunity I think she would have peeled the skin off of a couple of faces.
Today was a wake up call,she's been put on notice.
It's not Casey's world,and if she fries for Caylee's murder it will be well deserved.IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 07:45:40 PM
Casey Anthony Prime News part 1:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/a/u/1/JDEq7oZaTTM

Casey Anthony Prime News part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/a/u/0/KlvyRGRlyNo

Thanks Cece!   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 07:47:09 PM

Originally Posted by Amil View Post
I was sitting in front of you. I was sitting next to the body language expert and the Anthonys came in and needed me to move over so the body language expert moved back a row. I ended up sitting next to Cindy's constant friend's husband. Cindy, George and the lady next to Cindy all wore "Caylee Marie Anthony" wristbands (white with purple letters). I sat behind KC. I was able to observe her ankle shackles. Cindy's knee was abouncin' nervously prior to the start of the hearing. Bill Sheaffer sat in front of me in the row reserved for attorneys. He and the strawberry blonde got caught up in chatting during the hearing and the bailiff had to come over and tell them to stop. While the bald news guy wasn't able to sit with the Anthonys this time, he did come up and give her a brief pat after the hearing. Cindy was doing her typical back-rubbing on George out at the elevators following the hearing. Going to the parking garage, the media reminded me of flies on poop the way they followed the Anthonys to their car. I did see KC's paddy wagon followed by a patrol car leaving the courthouse as I was leaving the parking garage. I spoke to the cameraman and he assures me that cameras will continue to be allowed in Judge Perry's courtroom. It was his opinion that the defense rolled the dice when they asked for Strickland to step down and they didn't bargain on getting Judge Perry.  (This is a post from WS, from one of the two posters that were there this morning)

Thanks.  Great tidbits.    No mention of the peculiar choice of dress by Mrs. Bustworks.  Who in the world wears a neckline that revealing to a courtroom?    ::MonkeyEek::

Ono, picture please?  I did notice kc's blouse was ironed. I think sin=sin it letter he hair grow so she be like kc..... ::MonkeyDevil::

Play Deenie's video---you'll get a gander-the woman sitting next to CinCin-I think she is the real estate maven.

okie dokie ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 07:50:33 PM
Casey Anthony Prime News part 1:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/a/u/1/JDEq7oZaTTM

Casey Anthony Prime News part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/a/u/0/KlvyRGRlyNo

Thanks Cece!   ::MonkeyDance::

 ::HelloKitty::  You are so very welcome, Trimm.  And thank you for all the updates & links you bring to us.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 30, 2010, 07:53:48 PM

Thank you Wyks for your explanation 
How do they choose who is to be sequestered ? I am sorry if I sound redundant I just don't understand the picking / choosing process ?  How many people do they have to go through in order to " Pick"  jurors ... that will  be in the status that you stated above - for the longevity of the trial. 
Its confusing to me :( 


Am thinking it will be the same process as choosing a regular jury, but will likely add to the questioning process if each person has the ability to remain sequestered for a period of time.  Some who absolutely cannot, due to whatever, won't even make the jury pool for this case.  Employers cannot fire someone due to their being on a jury for a lengthy trial.  But some folks could have different types of hardships (like health or family situ etc) that could allow them to opt out early on in the process.   



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 07:54:51 PM
:2thinky:
Soooo....who do you think is going to crack first and get snarky or juvenile in front of JP and get a smackdown?  :smt017
I'm placing my bet on Andrea, 'cause she may be just a shade more arrogant than the rest.

WOW...that's a tough one....BOZO will get juvenile and/or whiny, LyonS will go into her I woll educate you mode and get slapped down and Mason's mumbling and good old boy routine will get him in deep doodoo........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 07:55:08 PM
Here is another screen shot of the couple that sat next to Cin. & Geo.  It's a bit blurry, but I took it from one of Sierre's videos:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/u/8/sCVALql9CJ4

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/430101.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 07:59:54 PM
Here is another screen shot of the couple that sat next to Cin. & Geo.  It's a bit blurry, but I took it from one of Sierre's videos:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/u/8/sCVALql9CJ4

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/430101.jpg)
Maybe it's the latest fashion rage for 50 something ladies to go braless!  I'll have to think long and hard on that one....um no can do. ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 08:01:40 PM
http://kreuzer33.wordpress.com/2010/04/30/casey-anthony-trial-will-take-place-in-orange-county/

Casey Anthony: Trial Will Take Place in Orange County


http://kreuzer33.wordpress.com/2010/04/30/casey-anthony-trial-would-take-weeks/

Casey Anthony: Trial Would Take Weeks


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 08:04:57 PM
Here is another screen shot of the couple that sat next to Cin. & Geo.  It's a bit blurry, but I took it from one of Sierre's videos:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/u/8/sCVALql9CJ4

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/430101.jpg)
Maybe it's the latest fashion rage for 50 something ladies to go braless!  I'll have to think long and hard on that one....um no can do. ::MonkeyCool::

This image comes to mind.  Wonder why!

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/6-1.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 08:07:42 PM
Haleigh Cummings & Caylee Anthony Update – Sunday May/2
Posted on April 30th, 2010
by Simon Barrett in crime
Read 1,020 times.
http://www.bloggernews.net/124437


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 08:10:00 PM
I finally found a short article on the motion regarding KC's visitor log.

(Again, my apologies for causing a problem on the thread last night).

Casey defense files motion to seal jail visit records
By
Robyn Sidersky
@ April 30, 2010 5:48 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
Casey Anthony's defense team filed a motion Friday to block to the release of jail visiting log records from the public.

The defense claims in the motion that "the media is constantly aware of any visits that the Defendant has." They also claim that the visits reveal the identity of any expert witnesses that may visit Casey in the jail.

Their concern is the "ability to maintain confidentiality of these visits prohibits them from being able to properly prepare her case for trial."


http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/casey-defense-files-motion-to.html

thanks cece, that kinda proves what we were thinking..... ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 08:14:25 PM
I finally found a short article on the motion regarding KC's visitor log.

(Again, my apologies for causing a problem on the thread last night).

Casey defense files motion to seal jail visit records
By
Robyn Sidersky
@ April 30, 2010 5:48 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
Casey Anthony's defense team filed a motion Friday to block to the release of jail visiting log records from the public.

The defense claims in the motion that "the media is constantly aware of any visits that the Defendant has." They also claim that the visits reveal the identity of any expert witnesses that may visit Casey in the jail.

Their concern is the "ability to maintain confidentiality of these visits prohibits them from being able to properly prepare her case for trial."


http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/casey-defense-files-motion-to.html

thanks cece, that kinda proves what we were thinking..... ::MonkeyKiss::

You're welcome Sunny.  Monkeys are so smart!   ::MonkeyAngel::

(But I'm still embarrassed that I caused problems last night).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 08:14:42 PM
The Video - I just posted - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCVALql9CJ4

Slore was doing her thing, playing with her hair, fixing her shirt ..all in face of the courtroom.
Smiles for BOBO - giggles - all is Well ....

Something clicked " OFF" with her when Judge Perry entered the room - to turn her into stone.
She was always one that had issues with Authority ..unfortunately I don't think she knows what Authority really means/meant until today.
Her reality was sweet,  quick and became painfully personal during these few short moments in the court this am ~ Priceless.. 
 :queen: :arrow: :shock:

 ::MonkeyRoll::

thanks Deenie........I noticed ..the smiles, flipping the hair, pulling her shirt and fidgeting and then she stopped, watched and listened...I didn't even see her pick up the pen and doodle or what ever it is she does usually....I think she is pretending she is a major part of the legal defense team..........not the defendant ::MonkeyTongue::

Oh yeah!
She actually is a major part of the defense team....she is their golden goose..guess to keep the gg happy they let her hold the mike button and doodle on legal pads   lol
ITA - Casey does not seem to acknowledge " EVER " that she is the reason Why all parties are present ..she is so OUT there  - Yet she is not Mentally Ill - she is trained from day one by her own conditioning.  She can escape within a heart beat and fall into her dream world - Anyone that " could possibly be" IN JAIL all this time and Only think about  Boys, Toys, RV's and New BFF's ... Who does not acknowledge to anyone - let alone herself. That Caylee is was her Daughter and she is Dead.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: she is not fooling anyone.
All her Letters show " She lives in Conscience World" its just not present - She is from the Date of June 16, 2008 - DREAMING about her NEW Life. She is that self indulgent that she is still Living the DREAM. And she believes in her tiny little Mind that Its still feasible.  Caylee or no Caylee she is on a mission. She is a cold, heartless, wrench of a Human Being. She even states in her letters - She is planning on Changing her Looks/hair/eye color with contacts/creating a new name - first and last. When she gets out - She wrote in her letters people will walk up to me and ask - " IS that Casey Anthony" And she said I will Laugh ..as I  keep on walking.  This B is not Crazy she is Sly as a Fox. I Loathe Her - as All do.
  ::MonkeyMad::

Deenie,I so agree with you.Sly like a Fox.
She acts like she is zoning out,but I think she is fantasizing about the evil she would like to perpetrate on anyone or thing that gets in her way.
She was nervous today,but if given the opportunity I think she would have peeled the skin off of a couple of faces.
Today was a wake up call,she's been put on notice.
It's not Casey's world,and if she fries for Caylee's murder it will be well deserved.IMO
I can't recall if it was you or another that said while the court was in session on live feed - that Casey was giving Judge Perry " The Eye " of death -
Now that I saw the " jump" video that I put out for everyone here - I get it. Because she went from her " Moxie I am ~ playing with her hair/all smiles " - to Utter Stone Face/body - NO emotions/no movement within her body> Solid as you could not even see if she was breathing. How can anyone flip like that within the circumstances ?  Someone that has had controlled their emotions for a very very long time - could do it. Casey I believe is the " baby control freak " born of the Ants. Perfect Hair, clothes, identity * we are PERFECT in our World WE created. What is astonishing is that NONE of the Ants have Empathy for anyone but their clutch of perfection - CA/GA/LA/CA - They are their own little planet and they feast off each other ~ abuse/use/smother/guilt/drill/injure/kill - and yet they still Stand as one Family Unit. Now that Casey is on the outside looking in - with all her training - she is giving the kiss off to her Mother/Father because - she has them Under the Bus in her eyes within the trial. They mean squat to her. They are pawns to her. ( not to mention the vile hate she has for Cindy ) She feels with all the damage they have created within Media etc is to her advantage. Again Casey looking towards her SELF/Freedom. NOT one look back - Or One feeling Of Caylee - at this point I don't believe Caylee even exists in Casey's mind. This is WAR on her Parents.  And she likes it ..she truly Likes it. She is in Control. In her mind. Sad sick and twisted ... She feels she is ONE up on Mother and Father. Caylee is a diversion in Casey's mind. She serves no purpose at all. All Casey's Wants is What's she is getting - 100 percent Attention. Good bad or ugly. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 08:15:05 PM
I finally found a short article on the motion regarding KC's visitor log.

(Again, my apologies for causing a problem on the thread last night).

Casey defense files motion to seal jail visit records
By
Robyn Sidersky
@ April 30, 2010 5:48 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
Casey Anthony's defense team filed a motion Friday to block to the release of jail visiting log records from the public.

The defense claims in the motion that "the media is constantly aware of any visits that the Defendant has." They also claim that the visits reveal the identity of any expert witnesses that may visit Casey in the jail.

Their concern is the "ability to maintain confidentiality of these visits prohibits them from being able to properly prepare her case for trial."


http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/casey-defense-files-motion-to.html

Hmmm...wonder who they're trying to get in there?  Maybe they don't like that ppl. put together when she signs things such as the motions, they're used to doing things in a shady way, puts a cramp in their style?

mizjay, these were my thoughts last night about the who and so far they haven't changed

hi cece.............thanks

so they want the visitation logs sealed..ummmmmmmmmmmmm interesting.WHY?

so who is going to be visiting that they do not want made public?

the A's?......naw
another attorney?..naw
so who.............perhaps a psychiatrist, or a psychologist?  The mitigation specialist has spent a whole lot of time with KC.....but the only psych evaluations that I am aware of are through the court/jail.............so are they changing their DUHfence from the nanny did it to KC did it but she was nuts

Seriously, I think they are going to claim it was an accident and KC was so afraid of her parents (mitigating circumstances) that everything she did can be explained by her fear which stems from..........abuse, mental and sexual...........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 08:19:35 PM
OMG, even at worse times with two teen girls it was nothing like that, what a ridiculous thing to say. They are all living on a parallel universe.  ::MonkeyShocked::
Now, don't make me bring out the TARDIS. The Doctor gets very insulted when one of his universes is threatened with the presence of the Ants. Maybe a one-way trip????
::MonkeyTongue:: Here are a few more tidbits from a poster at WS who was there at the hearing this morning.         
Casey's hair is very long now. She's more petite than I thought, I always imagined her to be a bit bigger than me from the pictures but I suppose the camera does add weight.

Cindy turned to the woman on her right and gave her a "look" when Jose referred to "new science" - air samples. I wondered what that look meant, and more so who the lady was.

Some lady with curly strawberry blond hair was sitting in front of Cindy. At one point her head was ducked and a deputy in the courtroom leaned over to say something to her. I didn't hear what was said though.

Cindy kept playing with her fingers - I guess she couldn't chew gum anymore? George looked as if he'd dyed the tops of his eyebrows. His shirt sure was...bright.

Conway arrived well before Cindy & George, though I thought they all rode together. There were two other ladies with brunette short hair sitting on the defense side as well, I had never seen them before - anyone know who they are? One very petite lady (I am assuming she was a journalist) was sitting on the defense side and her and I were in the elevator together on the way down. (I waited because I didn't want to get in the elevator with the A's or any of the media..) Not sure who she was but she was very nice, she wished me good luck on my baby as I exited the elevator and that made my day. Haha.

I was surprised at Baez actually using the phrase "Your Honor" though he didn't say it all the time.

Where I was sitting, though a few rows back, I was pretty much directly behind Casey. Never saw her turn around once. To me, that just says something is up..because she only gets such limited chances to see her parents - you'd think she'd at least smile at them.

thank nrcg.............I wish we had someone in Orlando who could go to the hearings....darn it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 08:20:35 PM
:2thinky:
Soooo....who do you think is going to crack first and get snarky or juvenile in front of JP and get a smackdown?  :smt017
I'm placing my bet on Andrea, 'cause she may be just a shade more arrogant than the rest.

Well, if Bozo doesn't beat her to it, she is a likely candidate. 

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Opera_singer_2.gif)

 ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 08:22:58 PM
Cece:  Mrs. Bustworks [ & her hubby I think, the real estate people ? ] were sitting next to CinCin on her right.  Mrs. Bustworks had on a brown dress with a very plunging neckline.  I kept waiting for a "Janet Jackson" moment.  The gentleman looks like the real estate man, only older now, than those photos of yours.

yep you are both right............they met the Coxes at one of the vigils......and musta latched onto them right away......evidently the Coxes are very well respected in the community....in fact, I was told they were responsible for the 'memorial' to be held at their church


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 30, 2010, 08:23:53 PM

You're welcome Sunny.  Monkeys are so smart!   ::MonkeyAngel::

(But I'm still embarrassed that I caused problems last night).

Ahhhh it's ok cece!  Most of us have done at least one or a hundred things like that.  heh.  Just shows that you are one among many good monkeys! 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 08:24:13 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/23320226/index.html

O the Anthonys are nervousing - Cindy showed her usual sarcasm & thinks she's clever...catch the smirk.  The Anthonys wouldnt know "respectable" if it bite them where the sun doesnt shine....beeotch please.   I actually think they are going home to cry in their cornflakes.   NO MORE CRAB CAKES FOR YOU!

I had doubts a change of venue with JS would be granted, now it appears that CHBP is inclined to pool the jury from other districts & keep it in Orlando...the defense wants to talk about cost, well that cuts both ways. 


George & CinCin do not even know that you only say "yes ma'am [ or no sir ], etc. " to those who could be old enough to be your parent!!!!    That really is so sadly ignorant.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on April 30, 2010, 08:25:38 PM
I finally found a short article on the motion regarding KC's visitor log.

(Again, my apologies for causing a problem on the thread last night).

Casey defense files motion to seal jail visit records
By
Robyn Sidersky
@ April 30, 2010 5:48 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
Casey Anthony's defense team filed a motion Friday to block to the release of jail visiting log records from the public.

The defense claims in the motion that "the media is constantly aware of any visits that the Defendant has." They also claim that the visits reveal the identity of any expert witnesses that may visit Casey in the jail.

Their concern is the "ability to maintain confidentiality of these visits prohibits them from being able to properly prepare her case for trial."


http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/casey-defense-files-motion-to.html

Hmmm...wonder who they're trying to get in there?  Maybe they don't like that ppl. put together when she signs things such as the motions, they're used to doing things in a shady way, puts a cramp in their style?

mizjay, these were my thoughts last night about the who and so far they haven't changed

hi cece.............thanks

so they want the visitation logs sealed..ummmmmmmmmmmmm interesting.WHY?

so who is going to be visiting that they do not want made public?

the A's?......naw
another attorney?..naw
so who.............perhaps a psychiatrist, or a psychologist?  The mitigation specialist has spent a whole lot of time with KC.....but the only psych evaluations that I am aware of are through the court/jail.............so are they changing their DUHfence from the nanny did it to KC did it but she was nuts

Seriously, I think they are going to claim it was an accident and KC was so afraid of her parents (mitigating circumstances) that everything she did can be explained by her fear which stems from..........abuse, mental and sexual...........

Good ideas SUNNY.  Wasn't there talk a while ago about Post Traumatic Syndrome possibly being used?  I think that's ridiculous because she has never exhibited behaviors in the aftermath of the "trauma" that is consistent with that. I used to know some facts about it but it's been over a couple of weeks ago which is my max capacity for recall (lol)
If they could get some pro in there to give her instructions on what things she should be doing to play it out....I dunno 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 08:28:38 PM

You're welcome Sunny.  Monkeys are so smart!   ::MonkeyAngel::

(But I'm still embarrassed that I caused problems last night).

Ahhhh it's ok cece!  Most of us have done at least one or a hundred things like that.  heh.  Just shows that you are one among many good monkeys! 



Thank you so much for your kind words Wyks.  You are a wonderful caring person with such a beautiful heart & I am honored to even be here among such wonderful people monkeys.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 08:32:10 PM
I finally found a short article on the motion regarding KC's visitor log.

(Again, my apologies for causing a problem on the thread last night).

Casey defense files motion to seal jail visit records
By
Robyn Sidersky
@ April 30, 2010 5:48 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
Casey Anthony's defense team filed a motion Friday to block to the release of jail visiting log records from the public.

The defense claims in the motion that "the media is constantly aware of any visits that the Defendant has." They also claim that the visits reveal the identity of any expert witnesses that may visit Casey in the jail.

Their concern is the "ability to maintain confidentiality of these visits prohibits them from being able to properly prepare her case for trial."


http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/casey-defense-files-motion-to.html

thanks cece, that kinda proves what we were thinking..... ::MonkeyKiss::

You're welcome Sunny.  Monkeys are so smart!   ::MonkeyAngel::

(But I'm still embarrassed that I caused problems last night).

cece, there was no real problem..........MB was just reminding all of us!

thanks for all your bring to SM, today and always!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 08:33:56 PM
Haleigh Cummings & Caylee Anthony Update – Sunday May/2
Posted on April 30th, 2010
by Simon Barrett in crime
Read 1,020 times.
http://www.bloggernews.net/124437


That was good.      ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 08:34:40 PM
Casey's eyes are telling this Judge to drop dead ....  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Deenie,this may be the quote you remember from earlier. 
Nut always sizes things up pretty quickly.Smart monkey.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 08:35:24 PM
I finally found a short article on the motion regarding KC's visitor log.

(Again, my apologies for causing a problem on the thread last night).

Casey defense files motion to seal jail visit records
By
Robyn Sidersky
@ April 30, 2010 5:48 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
Casey Anthony's defense team filed a motion Friday to block to the release of jail visiting log records from the public.

The defense claims in the motion that "the media is constantly aware of any visits that the Defendant has." They also claim that the visits reveal the identity of any expert witnesses that may visit Casey in the jail.

Their concern is the "ability to maintain confidentiality of these visits prohibits them from being able to properly prepare her case for trial."


http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/casey-defense-files-motion-to.html

Hmmm...wonder who they're trying to get in there?  Maybe they don't like that ppl. put together when she signs things such as the motions, they're used to doing things in a shady way, puts a cramp in their style?

mizjay, these were my thoughts last night about the who and so far they haven't changed

hi cece.............thanks

so they want the visitation logs sealed..ummmmmmmmmmmmm interesting.WHY?

so who is going to be visiting that they do not want made public?

the A's?......naw
another attorney?..naw
so who.............perhaps a psychiatrist, or a psychologist?  The mitigation specialist has spent a whole lot of time with KC.....but the only psych evaluations that I am aware of are through the court/jail.............so are they changing their DUHfence from the nanny did it to KC did it but she was nuts

Seriously, I think they are going to claim it was an accident and KC was so afraid of her parents (mitigating circumstances) that everything she did can be explained by her fear which stems from..........abuse, mental and sexual...........

Good ideas SUNNY.  Wasn't there talk a while ago about Post Traumatic Syndrome possibly being used?  I think that's ridiculous because she has never exhibited behaviors in the aftermath of the "trauma" that is consistent with that. I used to know some facts about it but it's been over a couple of weeks ago which is my max capacity for recall (lol)
If they could get some pro in there to give her instructions on what things she should be doing to play it out....I dunno 

Yes at one time a friend did think they might try for PTS, but has since changed her mind, with all the new information.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 08:36:56 PM
Here is another screen shot of the couple that sat next to Cin. & Geo.  It's a bit blurry, but I took it from one of Sierre's videos:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/u/8/sCVALql9CJ4

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/430101.jpg)
Maybe it's the latest fashion rage for 50 something ladies to go braless!  I'll have to think long and hard on that one....um no can do. ::MonkeyCool::

This image comes to mind.  Wonder why!

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/6-1.gif)


 ::MonkeyDevil::     Stoppin' from floppin' ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 30, 2010, 08:39:20 PM
It's  ::monkeymargarita:: time for me!  TTYL!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 08:41:45 PM
 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 08:43:08 PM

You're welcome Sunny.  Monkeys are so smart!   ::MonkeyAngel::

(But I'm still embarrassed that I caused problems last night).

Ahhhh it's ok cece!  Most of us have done at least one or a hundred things like that.  heh.  Just shows that you are one among many good monkeys! 



Thank you so much for your kind words Wyks.  You are a wonderful caring person with such a beautiful heart & I am honored to even be here among such wonderful people monkeys.  ::MonkeyAngel::
CeCe I am humbled as well - I have made my share of posts here on SM ..
Feeling omg I said too much or rambled too long. I shutter to find the day- that Klaas will email me-with a What the ?  lol ...eeek.  Its a very emotional site here at times. We all have our weakness and breakdowns.  Like you say - We are among each other. And can count on each other.   ::dogwag:: I think the majority of the Senior Monkeys have seen everything good bad and off the wall within posts ..to know who is who etc.  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 08:43:49 PM
I finally found a short article on the motion regarding KC's visitor log.

(Again, my apologies for causing a problem on the thread last night).

Casey defense files motion to seal jail visit records
By
Robyn Sidersky
@ April 30, 2010 5:48 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
Casey Anthony's defense team filed a motion Friday to block to the release of jail visiting log records from the public.

The defense claims in the motion that "the media is constantly aware of any visits that the Defendant has." They also claim that the visits reveal the identity of any expert witnesses that may visit Casey in the jail.

Their concern is the "ability to maintain confidentiality of these visits prohibits them from being able to properly prepare her case for trial."


http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/casey-defense-files-motion-to.html

thanks cece, that kinda proves what we were thinking..... ::MonkeyKiss::

You're welcome Sunny.  Monkeys are so smart!   ::MonkeyAngel::

(But I'm still embarrassed that I caused problems last night).

cece, there was no real problem..........MB was just reminding all of us!

thanks for all your bring to SM, today and always!!

Thank you Sunny.   ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 08:49:04 PM

You're welcome Sunny.  Monkeys are so smart!   ::MonkeyAngel::

(But I'm still embarrassed that I caused problems last night).

Ahhhh it's ok cece!  Most of us have done at least one or a hundred things like that.  heh.  Just shows that you are one among many good monkeys! 



Thank you so much for your kind words Wyks.  You are a wonderful caring person with such a beautiful heart & I am honored to even be here among such wonderful people monkeys.  ::MonkeyAngel::
CeCe I am humbled as well - I have made my share of posts here on SM ..
Feeling omg I said too much or rambled too long. I shutter to find the day- that Klaas will email me-with a What the ?  lol ...eeek.  Its a very emotional site here at times. We all have our weakness and breakdowns.  Like you say - We are among each other. And can count on each other.   ::dogwag:: I think the majority of the Senior Monkeys have seen everything good bad and off the wall within posts ..to know who is who etc.  ::MonkeyKiss::

Thanks so much Deenie.  Your posts are alway eloquent & well thought out & I always enjoy reading them.  My verbal skills seem to be lacking & I don't want to derail Caylee's thread (or any missing person's for that matter).   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cece on April 30, 2010, 08:53:20 PM
Good night sweet Monkeys.  Enjoy your evening.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Justice is coming for Caylee.

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/CAYLEE/cayleebyebye.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 08:56:55 PM
Good night sweet Monkeys.  Enjoy your evening.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Justice is coming for Caylee.

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/CAYLEE/cayleebyebye.jpg)
Honestly that is one of my fave photo's of Caylee
Because it's Just Her and her Imagination - No one telling her how to smile.
Its Just Caylee ~ Beautiful Child that she is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on April 30, 2010, 09:00:00 PM

You're welcome Sunny.  Monkeys are so smart!   ::MonkeyAngel::

(But I'm still embarrassed that I caused problems last night).

Ahhhh it's ok cece!  Most of us have done at least one or a hundred things like that.  heh.  Just shows that you are one among many good monkeys! 



Thank you so much for your kind words Wyks.  You are a wonderful caring person with such a beautiful heart & I am honored to even be here among such wonderful people monkeys.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Awww thanks cece.   ::MonkeyKiss::  The same can be said about you as well!  So many of our monkeys, the same.  Loving it here! 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on April 30, 2010, 09:58:47 PM
I don't believe I have ever witnessed such a juvenile display from a group of supposed professionals, they have been stomping their collective feet when things don't go their way, they write Bozomotions that are the laughing stock of lawyers everywhere, they accidentally get an obviously soft judge kicked off the case in favor of a judge not averse to imposing the DP and to top it all off they have the gall to be offended by his honest response. I can hear Bozo now saying "yeah, I meant to get the judge kicked off the case" pfft...everyone knows he would have to be insane to want that for his client.

I think I see an "inadequate representation" down the road somewhere.  ::MonkeyMad::
Miki  I think you're right. With baez at the lead, IMO it's  a sure bet

It won't make any difference if she does file "inadequate representation" or not because she HIRED him and could have fired him at any point, so as a point of law that is a moot issue.


Whether a defendant will be sentenced to death typically depends more on the quality of his/her legal team than any other factor. She has an inexperienced Lawyer who has never tried a DP case and insists he is lead attorney on the case. People who are well represented at trial do not get the death penalty yet Baez seems to be making sure this is what will happen with his actions. KC has hired Baez thinking he was going to get her off because this is what he has told her. I don't believe that the client is expected to know the difference between adequate counsel and mediocre counsel paid or appointed, and I think as she is kept isolated from everyone and everything who she chose to represent her in a DP case is not a moot point. JMO

Actually it is, because Bozo is technically NOT her lead attorney, Lyons to date is listed as her lead attorney already qualified as a DP attorney.   She has a team, not one so due to that fact it would not succeed on appeal.   Also, it is so not always true that convicted felons do not receive the DP if they are well represented.

This is case where the evidence is circumstantial and is unlikely to proceed to the DP phase, no matter what we think she deserves. However, if it does...We have postulated on this forum about the competence of ALL of her attorneys and their commitment to the client.
They all have an axe to grind, paid monies to be included in the case, using a clients money without  record, been disbarred, peddling a book or stumping for a cause and we on this forum have remarked on this constantly.
Would this still be going on if she had an attorney who's only interest was in getting her the best outcome possible?
Just today Baez stood up and said he was lead attorney...how many times has it been remarked that he will soon be under investigation or indeed already is. I don't believe you can have it both ways, either her representation is adequate or it isn't.

It is not always true that convicted felons don't get the dp but those with a decent lawyer plead out if possible. Only 0.06% of murderers get the death penalty so while not strictly 0% it's close enough for me to make little difference.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on April 30, 2010, 10:09:32 PM
~ Enjoy the Kentucky Derby this weekend everyone ~       ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 30, 2010, 10:17:39 PM
Issues With Jane Velez Mitchell 04/30/10
http://www.youtube.com/v/v6arZATauhQ&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b&border=1

Transcripts 04/30/10
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/30/ijvm.01.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on April 30, 2010, 10:27:48 PM
I don't believe I have ever witnessed such a juvenile display from a group of supposed professionals, they have been stomping their collective feet when things don't go their way, they write Bozomotions that are the laughing stock of lawyers everywhere, they accidentally get an obviously soft judge kicked off the case in favor of a judge not averse to imposing the DP and to top it all off they have the gall to be offended by his honest response. I can hear Bozo now saying "yeah, I meant to get the judge kicked off the case" pfft...everyone knows he would have to be insane to want that for his client.

I think I see an "inadequate representation" down the road somewhere.  ::MonkeyMad::
Miki  I think you're right. With baez at the lead, IMO it's  a sure bet

It won't make any difference if she does file "inadequate representation" or not because she HIRED him and could have fired him at any point, so as a point of law that is a moot issue.


Whether a defendant will be sentenced to death typically depends more on the quality of his/her legal team than any other factor. She has an inexperienced Lawyer who has never tried a DP case and insists he is lead attorney on the case. People who are well represented at trial do not get the death penalty yet Baez seems to be making sure this is what will happen with his actions. KC has hired Baez thinking he was going to get her off because this is what he has told her. I don't believe that the client is expected to know the difference between adequate counsel and mediocre counsel paid or appointed, and I think as she is kept isolated from everyone and everything who she chose to represent her in a DP case is not a moot point. JMO

Actually it is, because Bozo is technically NOT her lead attorney, Lyons to date is listed as her lead attorney already qualified as a DP attorney.   She has a team, not one so due to that fact it would not succeed on appeal.   Also, it is so not always true that convicted felons do not receive the DP if they are well represented.

This is case where the evidence is circumstantial and is unlikely to proceed to the DP phase, no matter what we think she deserves. However, if it does...We have postulated on this forum about the competence of ALL of her attorneys and their commitment to the client.
They all have an axe to grind, paid monies to be included in the case, using a clients money without  record, been disbarred, peddling a book or stumping for a cause and we on this forum have remarked on this constantly.
Would this still be going on if she had an attorney who's only interest was in getting her the best outcome possible?
Just today Baez stood up and said he was lead attorney...how many times has it been remarked that he will soon be under investigation or indeed already is. I don't believe you can have it both ways, either her representation is adequate or it isn't.

It is not always true that convicted felons don't get the dp but those with a decent lawyer plead out if possible. Only 0.06% of murderers get the death penalty so while not strictly 0% it's close enough for me to make little difference.

Scott Peterson got the death penalty after a trial that consisted almost entirely of circumstantial evidence.  He was represented by Mark Geragos, a very experienced trial attorney.  When you're guilty the Jury knows it...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on April 30, 2010, 10:37:27 PM

Scott Peterson got the death penalty after a trial that consisted almost entirely of circumstantial evidence.  He was represented by Mark Geragos, a very experienced trial attorney.  When you're guilty the Jury knows it...


He could have had a plea deal and not gone in front of a jury, just goes to show sometimes you should listen to the experienced trial attorney and not think you can fool all of the people all of the time. He took a chance and lost, I'm not losing sleep over it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 10:50:00 PM
just my own thoughts

If someone is within the system such as Casey or even Misty Croslin -

That there should be such a program for such ppl who are housed in county lockup -
That they Serve TIME within the next house .. Prison for One Week.
A one week term within " Prison" prior to sentencing. For both of these " Young Ladies" I think Prison for a Week in Gen Pop - May be reason enough to shock the living daylights out of them.
For them to gather what their real near future may be *term unknown - for them to know they will be returned back to county jail. Let them see the difference. Let them truly soak it up        " Mindfully"  Like Scared Straight but for a Week not just a day..



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2010, 10:55:43 PM
Well All - this Ol Monkey Mama is dead tired and needs to recharge - Good Nightly Nite to All ~  Blessings 

 ::MonkeyPeace::

Goodnight Caylee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on April 30, 2010, 11:13:08 PM
just my own thoughts

If someone is within the system such as Casey or even Misty Croslin -

That there should be such a program for such ppl who are housed in county lockup -
That they Serve TIME within the next house .. Prison for One Week.
A one week term within " Prison" prior to sentencing. For both of these " Young Ladies" I think Prison for a Week in Gen Pop - May be reason enough to shock the living daylights out of them.
For them to gather what their real near future may be *term unknown - for them to know they will be returned back to county jail. Let them see the difference. Let them truly soak it up        " Mindfully"  Like Scared Straight but for a Week not just a day..



That would be placing un-convicted people in harm's way. That'll never happen. Like it or not, they still have rights.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Love2Read on April 30, 2010, 11:23:26 PM
There are two posters at WS who went to the hearing today. Casey did not turn around to her parents at all, so why Cindy mouthed I love you to Casey is beyond me. Also, it appears before the hearing started, Baez was showing Casey something on his phone, so perhaps Cindy and Casey were giving messages to each other via cell phone. I didn't see it, but that is the talk. There was also a body language person and a jury consultant there as well.

Maybe CinCin was mouthing that to jar?      ::MonkeyRoll::    lol

 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 01, 2010, 12:00:39 AM
There are two posters at WS who went to the hearing today. Casey did not turn around to her parents at all, so why Cindy mouthed I love you to Casey is beyond me. Also, it appears before the hearing started, Baez was showing Casey something on his phone, so perhaps Cindy and Casey were giving messages to each other via cell phone. I didn't see it, but that is the talk. There was also a body language person and a jury consultant there as well.

Maybe CinCin was mouthing that to jar?      ::MonkeyRoll::    lol

 ::MonkeyJnBox::

I actually was so exhausted that I fell asleep for a bit so I'm proceeding to finish looking at today's events.  I just watched a raw video on WFTV of before the hearing - Bozo is touch flipping through something on his cell with Casey watching & its quite funny when you hear "All rise...." and he quickly puts the phone down like a kid caught with his hands in the cookie jar - its at the end.   Cindy was texting or something at some point I saw on other raw footage (link here that Deenie posted) so I cant say if the timing was right.  I also noticed in this raw video Cindy give one of her typical snarles at something along with them laughing, seriously these people are despicable.    I am absolutely confident they will be far from laughing a little over a year from now & the jury is going to see all the inappropriate behavior, disdain, lies & anger we see from all of them.   No doubt in my mind DP or not, this monster is never seeing the light of day again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 01, 2010, 02:10:19 AM
IMO, CJBP is not inclined to grant a change of venue (mainly due to him using the provision to pool jurors out of county, cost & convenience of all parties) nor grant the defense motion to preclude the DP after what I heard in the hearing in its entirety. 

When change of venue was discussed yet again Bozo concerned himself with a "certain demographic" being omitted, in other words one they anticipated would be sympathetic to their client or have some foolish perceived notion would have an allegiance to him.   His body language indicated to me that he knows he is losing this battle...he can kiss his dream of Miami goodbye, Im pretty dang sure of that.

Evidently, the defense is still trying to view TES's records on their terms & without supervision.   Bozo stated that Nejame was not in court "to defend himself," in my view that was a slam as well as ridiculous statement.   Nejame in fact has bent over backwards to give this defense even more than the original Order of searchers only that were searching near the Suburban Drive location, he has NOTHING to defend.   I believe CJBP will put a cap on this fishing expedition & maintain what was previously ordered by JS.

My ears perked up when CJBP discussed keeping to a deposition schedule & went so far to say that if there was continuing stonewalling or people refusing to appear that there would be a contempt of court ordered with the Sheriff's "assistance."    Dominic Casey came to mind, his attorney was in court & again one has to ask what the bleep for?

One concern I have for the State is how easily they will be able to establish qualifying Oakridge's scientific analysis, I look forward to hearing arguments on both sides on this.

It was very interesting to hear that Bozo estimated that their case-in-chief would only be three weeks, maybe less.   Considering that would include their expert witnesses, it indicates to me that they do not have anything substantial to chip away at the State's case-in-chief but only to argue it with a ton of smoke & mirrors but no substance.

I noticed after court DM with the media but when Baez & Mason shot him a look he put his head down....yea ok marinade for brains you're a tough guy NOT!   I admit this gave me a chuckle.   I also noticed he was kissing up to the Anthonys again - I'll leave that there because the man isnt worthy of much more comment at this point.

Bozo's presser afterwards reeked of hypocritical statements, o never mind he's an @$$

What I noticed about Casey today is she was "throat gulping" when the air sample discussion was taking place...no tears or upset  (certainly none for Caylee) but just an absolute nervousness - IMHO consciousness of guilt.   She was probably advised to be very stone faced in the new judge's presence but what I sensed from her today is that her confidence that she was going to get away with this diminished greatly.   Yet again, she did not even give her parents a glance - its pretty clear at this point that one could glean that she is indeed shunning them....her family are fools as well as scum.

The next week or so is going to get very interesting!   ::MonkeyGavel:: This judge is on a mission & I agree with many, the defense made a HUGE mistake.   The only day I probably wont be hearing live is the 10th as I will be traveling back from Jersey for my daughter's college graduation.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 01, 2010, 02:27:59 AM

Thank you Wyks for your explanation 
How do they choose who is to be sequestered ? I am sorry if I sound redundant I just don't understand the picking / choosing process ?  How many people do they have to go through in order to " Pick"  jurors ... that will  be in the status that you stated above - for the longevity of the trial. 
Its confusing to me :( 


I was on a sequestered jury once and it is not pleasant. You are totally closed off from the world to be exact. I can't imagine be sequestered for as long as this one will take. Ours was just about a 3 1/2 weeks and I was "stir crazy" by the time we got out. We did get to go out to eat at times, but when we did we were taken by bus to a restaurant where we entered by a side door and were placed in a special banquet room with no TV, or anything which could give us any information about the trial. We did get to see the news on TV on a DVD but it was prepared for us by security and put on the DVD to make sure nothing about the trial or any media coverage was on it.  It was summer so we were allowed to go to the swimming pool at times but it would be at times when the pool was cleared of all other persons and only the jurors and security was there. Same with the work out rooms, etc. NO TVs or radios allowed.

You don't CHOOSE, they choose you. You fill out a questionnaire prior to the trial where both the defense and prosecution get copies of ALL your personal information. They run background checks on you and I have been told your family also sometimes. If you have LE family members you are usually excused by the defense because many of them consider you biased toward LE. My best friend is in LE and some of my family had been, and it was always strange to me the defense did not excuse me because I listed them on the informational questionnaire. Some persons they asked questions in court as they are choosing a jury and some they don't. Most big trials have specialists in picking juries who help the attorneys choose the best jurors for the case.

The longer the trial the more alternates they have in the jury pool because people sometimes have to be excused because of emergencies in their family or they may become ill themselves. We had two who became ill during the trial. In the one I was on, ALL the jurors and the alternates were sequestered together and the alternates were told to pay full attention and take copious notes because they could be called at anytime.

That is just my experience and it is in a state other than Florida, so take it for what it is worth.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 01, 2010, 06:44:54 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/30/casey_faces_new_judge.html
Casey Faces No-nonsense Judge In Court
Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:22:33 AM

Reported by Dave D’Marko and Jacqueline Fell

ORLANDO -- Casey Anthony and her defense team went before a new judge Friday morning.

Judge Belvin Perry took over the case after Judge Stan Strickland recused himself at the request of Anthony’s lawyers.

The defense said Strickland had an inappropriate discussion with a blogger covering the case.

Some analysts, however, said Strickland’s replacement could be more difficult to deal with as they try to defend Anthony against charges of murdering her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.

Analysts had called Perry a “no-nonsense” judge, and that was reflected in the first court hearing in the case.
The judge was all about the calendar, pushing both the prosecution and defense to be ready for trial.

At one point, when Perry was talking to defense attorney Jose Baez about his budget for the Justice Administrative Commission to pay for Anthony’s discovery process, he said: “That needed to be done, like, yesterday.”

Perry set the hearing for May 6 and then started pressing the attorneys to get all their pending motions resolved. They have until May 10 to prepare them for his decision.

Both sides said they had a lot to do -- for example, the state trying to get depositions from as many as 250 witnesses.

Perry said he wants a schedule of when they will take depositions. Anyone who misses a set deadline could be held in contempt of court.

“I will not be taking the excuse, ‘They don’t show up; we need a delay.’ Give them a courtesy call, and if we need him, I’m sure the sheriff, Jerry Demings, will be helpful in making those witnesses available,” Perry said.

At one point, a prosecutor said she might not be able to make a hearing, because she was scheduled for jury duty in Orange County.

Perry said he knows people, and he’s pretty sure he could get her out of it.

Attorneys on both sides were forced to talk about things in open court they may not have been prepared to discuss, like change of venue and sequestering the jury.
Though not official yet, Perry said he would prefer to keep the trial in Orlando, and to get a jury from another county, saying that would be the cheapest way to do things.

Attorneys also seemed to agree the trial could last as long as two months. The judge did not seem thrilled, but the trial remains set to start May 9, 2011.
Defense Files Objection About Former Judge

One of Anthony’s lawyers is firing back at the previous judge in the case.

Judge Stan Strickland recused himself from the case earlier this month, and was critical of the defense in responding to their request that he step down.

Defense attorney Cheney Mason filed an objection with the court Friday, taking exception to Strickland's response.

When he took himself off the case, Strickland noted the defense "courageously" filed their motion just before 5 p.m. on a Friday.

Mason said he tried to contact the judge, but “the judge's chambers were closed, apparently having been vacated early on that Friday afternoon."

Strickland also said he was afraid the defense would object to every ruling he made, with a flurry of motions.
     
However, in his filing, Mason said it's customary for the defense to file many motions in a death penalty case.

There were also several more motions filed in the case.

Among them is a motion to seal jail visiting log records.
The defense said if they cannot keep the people visiting Anthony confidential, they cannot properly prepare her case for trial.

A memorandum supporting motion to declare death penalty unconstitutional was also filed, along with a motion seeking a protecting order with respect to death penalty.

The defense wants to protect Anthony from revealing any information relating to any potential witnesses or testimony in a penalty phase proceeding prior to a first-degree murder conviction, if should that happen.
Slide Show   http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/30/casey_faces_new_judge.html
Casey Appears Before Judge   http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=CAPERRYFIRSTHEARINGW_043020100402&cat=CAC&title=Casey%20Goes%20Before%20New%20Judge
# Anthony Hearing Part I  http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=043010CASEYHEARINGPT1_043020101059&cat=CAC&title=Anthony%20Hearing%20Part%20I
Anthony Hearing Part II  http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=042010CASEYHEARINGB_043020101206&cat=CAC&title=Anthony%20Hearing%20Part%20II
Casey Anthony Part III  http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=043010caseyhearingc_043020101256&cat=CAC&title=Anthony%20Hearing%20Part%20III



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 01, 2010, 06:58:16 AM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/casey-anthony-stations-see-a-new-serious-attitude-with-a-new-judge-belvin-perry-in-charge.html
Casey Anthony: Stations see a new, serious attitude with a new judge, Belvin Perry, in charge
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Central Florida News 13, Jose Baez, WESH, WFTV, WKMG, WOFL
— posted by halboedeker on April, 30 2010 5:55 PM
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What a difference a judge makes — that was the recurring theme of TV coverage today in the Casey Anthony case.

WOFL-Channel 35 anchor Sonni Abatta saw ”a whole new attitude” with Chief Judge Belvin Perry taking over from Judge Stan Strickland, who recused himself from the case.

“Judge Perry is very direct and made it clear he doesn’t want anything to slow down this case getting to trial, which is now set for a year from now,” WOFL’s Holly Bristow reported.

WOFL highlighted that Perry said he wouldn’t take the excuse that someone didn’t show up for a deposition.

“The judge’s serious tone spread through the courtroom and the two sides that have been known to squabble were noticeably courteous,” Bristow said.

On Central Florida News 13, Jacqueline Fell described the new atmosphere with the new judge. “The hearing started right on the dot at 9:30,” she said. “There was absolutely no bickering on either side. In fact, both sides, the defense and the prosecution, were treading very lightly, being very kind.”

Fell said Perry “got right down to business and wasted absolutely no time getting things moving.” Fell estimated that the trial could last two months, based on what both sides were saying.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.
WESH anchor Jim Payne said Perry “set up an ambitious schedule to put this trial back on the fast track.”

WESH’s Bob Kealing said Perry displayed a vintage style in asking direct questions and seeking direct answers. “He also sent a surprise signal today that this trial will be held right here,” Kealing said outside the Orange County Courthouse.

Kealing quoted a lawyer who said that Perry “is like having a general on the case.”

WKMG-Channel 6’s Tony Pipitone said Perry “wasted no time getting to the heart of outstanding issues, even one year before the May 9 trial date.”

WFTV-Channel 9 anchor Bob Opsahl said, “For the first time, Casey Anthony met with her new judge, and it was all business. And Chief Judge Belvin Perry said this case could make history. For the first time ever, an out-of-town jury could be brought to the Orange County Courthouse for a local case.”

WFTV’s Kathi Belich stressed that Perry didn’t decide today that the trial will be held here, but he will decide soon. And she said the judge was leaning toward sequestering the jury in a hotel.

Belich said there was “a totally different tone in the courtroom today” with Perry in charge.

And what of Anthony and her defense team?

On Central Florida News 13, defense attorney Jose Baez said, “We’re excited to have Judge Perry, and that’s not anything negative toward Judge Strickland. We’re ready to move this case forward. We want Casey to have a fair trial.”

WESH’s Kealing highlighted that Anthony chuckled briefly before the hearing but “sat emotionless” during the hearing.

WFTV’s Belich said that Anthony’s “expression was serious, her jaw tightened when the death penalty was mentioned.”

WOFL anchor Abatta noted that Casey Anthony wore a pink shirt and had her hair pulled back. Abatta explained that Cindy Anthony waved at Casey and mouthed “I love you” at her daughter when the young woman was escorted in handcuffs out of the courtroom. Casey Anthony briefly smiled at her parents, Abatta added.
WESH’s Jeff Lennox talked to Cindy Anthony, who said it was “a lot better being in court today … Everybody was much more respectful. It was good.”

Orlando defense attorney Diana Tennis told WOFL, “Obviously everybody was on their very best behavior, and I think everybody wanted to make sure that the judge knew they took his orders seriously. And that nobody wanted to be the first one to get yelled at.”

I wouldn’t want to be yelled at by him. Would you?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 01, 2010, 09:49:10 AM
I would not want to be yelled at this judge either, no sir  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 01, 2010, 10:50:08 AM

Thank you Wyks for your explanation 
How do they choose who is to be sequestered ? I am sorry if I sound redundant I just don't understand the picking / choosing process ?  How many people do they have to go through in order to " Pick"  jurors ... that will  be in the status that you stated above - for the longevity of the trial. 
Its confusing to me :( 


I was on a sequestered jury once and it is not pleasant. You are totally closed off from the world to be exact. I can't imagine be sequestered for as long as this one will take. Ours was just about a 3 1/2 weeks and I was "stir crazy" by the time we got out. We did get to go out to eat at times, but when we did we were taken by bus to a restaurant where we entered by a side door and were placed in a special banquet room with no TV, or anything which could give us any information about the trial. We did get to see the news on TV on a DVD but it was prepared for us by security and put on the DVD to make sure nothing about the trial or any media coverage was on it.  It was summer so we were allowed to go to the swimming pool at times but it would be at times when the pool was cleared of all other persons and only the jurors and security was there. Same with the work out rooms, etc. NO TVs or radios allowed.

You don't CHOOSE, they choose you. You fill out a questionnaire prior to the trial where both the defense and prosecution get copies of ALL your personal information. They run background checks on you and I have been told your family also sometimes. If you have LE family members you are usually excused by the defense because many of them consider you biased toward LE. My best friend is in LE and some of my family had been, and it was always strange to me the defense did not excuse me because I listed them on the informational questionnaire. Some persons they asked questions in court as they are choosing a jury and some they don't. Most big trials have specialists in picking juries who help the attorneys choose the best jurors for the case.

The longer the trial the more alternates they have in the jury pool because people sometimes have to be excused because of emergencies in their family or they may become ill themselves. We had two who became ill during the trial. In the one I was on, ALL the jurors and the alternates were sequestered together and the alternates were told to pay full attention and take copious notes because they could be called at anytime.

That is just my experience and it is in a state other than Florida, so take it for what it is worth.

Good Morning Monks!  Turbo thanks for sharing your experience with us.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 01, 2010, 10:54:31 AM
I would not want to be yelled at this judge either, no sir  ::MonkeyEek::

OH HELL NO!!!  Describing him as a general was a very good analogy.

trim thanks for bring us all the morning news

Morning NRCG


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 01, 2010, 11:02:48 AM
I would not want to be yelled at this judge either, no sir  ::MonkeyEek::

OH HELL NO!!!  Describing him as a general was a very good analogy.

trim thanks for bring us all the morning news

Morning NRCG
Good morning, hope you feel good this morning  ::MonkeyCool::  When I was watching that hearing yesterday I really thought the fear of God was put into Casey, but now I'm thinking, no, this is going to be dragged out and brought to trial. What I think that what I was seeing was fear, was just anger, and that little witch is not going to listen to her lawyers and this will go to trial. I still am hoping for this to be plead out, though.


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Post by: Kat_Gram on May 01, 2010, 11:06:20 AM
I was " selected" to be on a jury, maybe three years ago. I wasn't called, but I had to go and sit while they called the others. It was long and boring. Many had good reasons for not wanting to serve. Some were allowed and were excused. Some of the reasons for excusal were : Hearing impaired even with a hearing aide, family trip with the proof tha the tix were purchased prior to the summons, waiting for a call for surgery ( with proof) , being related to one of the LE, knowing the family of the accused. Having a job and losing income wasn't a good enought excuse as one fellow found out. By the time they had enough, it seemed to me that the potential juors selected were : Retired or stay at home Moms.
I would have liked to be selected, a GF from work did a murder trial the months before and she found it really interesting. We get paid full wages if selecterd, easier than work. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 01, 2010, 11:12:50 AM
I appreciate the info on being on a jury, I never have been.   ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: Scatty on May 01, 2010, 11:19:14 AM
I just saw my neighbors toddler who'll be turning 3 in a cuple months. When I saw him last a few months ago he was getting out a word here and there and mostly yelling; now, he is definitely communicating verbally and is totally understandable--I was shocked at the difference. This made me think of poor little Caylee of course. Kids at that age seem to advance in verbal skills by leaps and bounds.
I believe the minute her child started to verbalize her thoughts, KC knew she had to to come up with a plan of action before her gig was up. It was only a matter of time before CA and GA heard that Caylee was spending the day at home after the grandparents were out of the house, and that there was no Zanny, and the rest of the inumerable lies would come to light. KC couldn't keep drugging Caylee indefinitely, because that too was bound to become apparent eventually. So she had to think of something, anything: maybe she could find on the Internet something in the house that could be used to get rid of Caylee, that could be deemed an accident, maybe stage a kidnapping like on OneTreeHill, SOMETHING! Then came the fight with Cindy on Father's Day. Caution went out the window and KC gave her temper full reign. She already had it semi-planned, so might as well act now. So she did.
For defense dupes that might say KC had no real motive to kill Caylee, that she could have just left her with her grandparents, they don't understand the pathological personality. KC's life was one big lie, and she would do anything to protect it. People were expendable, as long as KC's lies could remain intact, and life continue the way she wanted it. The only real thing in KC's life that made her feel worthwhile was her ability to hoodwink people. This is the same theme for countless people like her born (IMO) with this defective personality. This is the ONLY goal in their worthless lives.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 01, 2010, 12:36:03 PM
http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/
Casey Anthony’s Body Language Undergoes A Dramatic Change In the Courtroom For The First Time In Two Years
May 1, 2010 - 11 Responses


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 01, 2010, 01:18:58 PM
I just saw my neighbors toddler who'll be turning 3 in a cuple months. When I saw him last a few months ago he was getting out a word here and there and mostly yelling; now, he is definitely communicating verbally and is totally understandable--I was shocked at the difference. This made me think of poor little Caylee of course. Kids at that age seem to advance in verbal skills by leaps and bounds.
I believe the minute her child started to verbalize her thoughts, KC knew she had to to come up with a plan of action before her gig was up. It was only a matter of time before CA and GA heard that Caylee was spending the day at home after the grandparents were out of the house, and that there was no Zanny, and the rest of the inumerable lies would come to light. KC couldn't keep drugging Caylee indefinitely, because that too was bound to become apparent eventually. So she had to think of something, anything: maybe she could find on the Internet something in the house that could be used to get rid of Caylee, that could be deemed an accident, maybe stage a kidnapping like on OneTreeHill, SOMETHING! Then came the fight with Cindy on Father's Day. Caution went out the window and KC gave her temper full reign. She already had it semi-planned, so might as well act now. So she did.
For defense dupes that might say KC had no real motive to kill Caylee, that she could have just left her with her grandparents, they don't understand the pathological personality. KC's life was one big lie, and she would do anything to protect it. People were expendable, as long as KC's lies could remain intact, and life continue the way she wanted it. The only real thing in KC's life that made her feel worthwhile was her ability to hoodwink people. This is the same theme for countless people like her born (IMO) with this defective personality. This is the ONLY goal in their worthless lives.

SCATTY~ Agree with your excellent post.  I believe that you hit  it when you said "Kc's life was one big lie, and she would do anything to protect it................The only thing in KC's life that made her feel worthwile was her ability to hood wink people."

That was her strong suit, manipulating and using people. For a person like her, a toddler is impossible to use. Too young to bribe, too old to sedate to sleep for hours and hours, too immature to use as an ally in her schemes etc. Caylee was a problem and she was a rival. In fairy tales there can be only one princess


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 01, 2010, 02:57:32 PM
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2010/05/casey-anthony-murder-trial-who-passed.html
 Saturday May 1,2010
Casey Anthony Murder Trial: Who passed Judge Perry's test?
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Yesterday's hearing conducted by Judge Belvin Perry proved to be as quick-moving and decisive as all the legal experts had been predicting. It was also a test. Being tested were the attorneys, the defendant, the Anthony family and all the onlookers. We can be sure that Perry was listening carefully and taking mental notes.

Cindy and George Anthony passed the test. They weren't chomping on gum or swigging on water bottles. However, Cindy seemed nervous at times without her crutches.

Casey Anthony passed the test. She sat as still as a stone statue throughout the proceedings. She stopped fixing her clothing and fiddling with her hair from the moment Judge Perry entered the courtroom.

Cheney Mason didn't say a word to the court other than his name and seemed to be sitting off a bit by himself observing and thinking throughout.

Jose Baez passed, but not with flying colors. Baez stated that he would "attempt" to contact the JAS people with a propose budget when Perry cut him off by asking if he would be available next week for the hearing as opposed to June or July as originally scheduled with Judge Strickland. Once a hearing date was set for May 6, lacking his agenda, he couldn't schedule a time for a hearing with the JAC. Judge Perry then stated that that would give Baez an opportunity to call the JAC today! I do hope that the defense has its budget ready prior to that hearing "yesterday"!

When Judge perry asked Baez how many defense motions aside from those concerning the death penalty were not yet resolved, he responded "a handful" and that he had a comprehensive list he could send "his honor". (Hello! Why didn't you bring it to the status hearing?) He then went on to say that to give a "comprehensive answer" he would say there were 3-5, excluding the death penalty motions. He did mention the motion regarding spoliation which still needs depositions.
Judge Perry then reworded his question to Baez. "How many motions that are ripe are pending to be heard?". At this point, Baez digressed to mention that Judge Strickland had not made the prosecution respond to all the motions as the defense had asked. Baez said they wanted the case law that the prosecution would use to defend their position.

Jeff Ashton (who will be handling the death penalty motions) stated that most of the motions to which Baez was referring were death penalty motions which Andrea Lyon had stated she would still want to argue before the court and not have them ruled on pleadings. He felt it was not a wise use of his time to respond to motions which would still be argued in court but that, if ordered to do so, he would do so. He also indicated that he had responded to some of the motions so they would not require a hearing in open court.

At this point in the hearing, Judge Perry set about setting a schedule for the hearings. He was looking at May 10, 11, 12, 13, and the morning of the 14th for the non-death penalty motions.
During the hearing, Baez also slipped and addressed His Honor simply as "JUDGE" a couple of times.
Perhaps his biggest faux pas  was in addressing Judge Perry at the very end to inform him of the proper way to pronounce Lyon ("roar like a lion"). That is an issue which should have been addressed in a more diplomatic manner, considering that both Ashton and Drane used Lyons as well!

Linda Drane (I'll leave off the Burdick since that is what the judge is saying) passed the test with a minor slip on how many witnesses had been deposed. When asked by the judge, Jose Baez had been able to give the answer, 36. However, she scored a perfect "10" when she rose to speak to the number and nature of the pending motions. She started by saying that she had a motions log that Ms. Lyon had been "kind enough to provide". (That's the information Baez left back at the office.) She read from Lyon's log that there are 7 non-death penalty motions outstanding and read them off.

As she was doing so, Baez made the big boo-boo of getting out of his seat and going to the assistant who loudly snapped open his briefcase for him to peruse. He rooted around among the papers and withdrew something and sat down again. This drew a curious look from Cheney Mason and a short, whispered discussion between the two defense lawyers. I wonder what was discussed!
As for Jeff Ashton, he got an a for his efforts in court today. When asked, he got up, succinctly presented his point of view, and sat down.

Andrea Lyon didn't fare very well. She phoned in her appearance and apparently had a hard time hearing. The clerk finally had to repeat the questions directly into the phone so she could hear. I'll hold off grading her until she comes into court to argue the penalty motions.

Having graded all the participants in attendance, I'd like to briefly cover the issues I missed while grading the parties.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 01, 2010, 03:01:35 PM
I just saw my neighbors toddler who'll be turning 3 in a cuple months. When I saw him last a few months ago he was getting out a word here and there and mostly yelling; now, he is definitely communicating verbally and is totally understandable--I was shocked at the difference. This made me think of poor little Caylee of course. Kids at that age seem to advance in verbal skills by leaps and bounds.
I believe the minute her child started to verbalize her thoughts, KC knew she had to to come up with a plan of action before her gig was up. It was only a matter of time before CA and GA heard that Caylee was spending the day at home after the grandparents were out of the house, and that there was no Zanny, and the rest of the inumerable lies would come to light. KC couldn't keep drugging Caylee indefinitely, because that too was bound to become apparent eventually. So she had to think of something, anything: maybe she could find on the Internet something in the house that could be used to get rid of Caylee, that could be deemed an accident, maybe stage a kidnapping like on OneTreeHill, SOMETHING! Then came the fight with Cindy on Father's Day. Caution went out the window and KC gave her temper full reign. She already had it semi-planned, so might as well act now. So she did.
For defense dupes that might say KC had no real motive to kill Caylee, that she could have just left her with her grandparents, they don't understand the pathological personality. KC's life was one big lie, and she would do anything to protect it. People were expendable, as long as KC's lies could remain intact, and life continue the way she wanted it. The only real thing in KC's life that made her feel worthwhile was her ability to hoodwink people. This is the same theme for countless people like her born (IMO) with this defective personality. This is the ONLY goal in their worthless lives.

SCATTY~ Agree with your excellent post.  I believe that you hit  it when you said "Kc's life was one big lie, and she would do anything to protect it................The only thing in KC's life that made her feel worthwile was her ability to hood wink people."

That was her strong suit, manipulating and using people. For a person like her, a toddler is impossible to use. Too young to bribe, too old to sedate to sleep for hours and hours, too immature to use as an ally in her schemes etc. Caylee was a problem and she was a rival. In fairy tales there can be only one princess

You both are SO correct - Caylee was telling CA things which she saw and CA was tearing into KC over it. One thing which I have not seen discussed, is................. if Caylee was being drugged with ANY type of drug, (zanex, chloroform, benedyrl, others) as those things start wearing off she would be a nervous wreck and cry a lot. She would have withdrawals because small children can't take a central nervous system depressants and not have them.  

Since CA was a home health care office worker the "drug" closet in that place would have been a treasure chest for KC to get her drugs for Caylee. There were many times that it talked about KC "stopping by" her mother's office.

Many elderly and very ill patients take liquid pain and other meds and the detail men (pharmaceutical salespersons) bring in cases of their drugs and put them in the "detail closet." All of them have things like oxycotin, zanex,liquid demerol, etc. Anyone who has ever worked in a Dr.'s office knows what I am talking about.

By the time LE checked the Anthony's medicine cabinets all of those "samples" would have been LONG GONE.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 01, 2010, 03:01:46 PM
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2010/05/casey-anthony-murder-trial-who-passed.html
Continued.......
The Defense Quest For TES Records

On Friday, April 23, ClickOrlando reported that Mason and Baez had showed up to view the TES records at Mark NeJames' offices. Apparently, when the station's news cameras arrived, they left quickly.

On April 26, WFTV reported that NeJames is planning to file a motion to break a deadlock on the issue.

At the hearing, Jose Baez stated to Judge Perry that the defense had already filed three motions to get copies of all the records and that they planned on filing yet another one. He briefly mentioned that he and Mason had been to NeJames' office and "we will be, again be seeking to modify the order" because "we were unable to accomplish what we wanted to." He also insinuated something (although I do not know exactly what) by stating that he would speak no more of it because "Mr. NeJames is not here to defend himself".

What Baez wants to accomplish here is probably to find personal information of some searchers so they can send their PI's out to dig the ground out from under them! Judge Strickland ruled more than once concerning the privacy of searchers who were no where near the site. Both Brad Conway and Linda Drane were able to find what they were looking for in a matter of hours. I'm looking forward to see the new motions and what Perry will rule.
Oak Ridge Labs and other forensics

It would seem that the defense is having problems with getting proprietary information from the lab. Jeff Ashton stated that the intricacies of inter-state depositions were being worked on and that they were being scheduled for July.

When it came to defense experts examining the evidence, Baez stated that the hold-up in having his experts coming in was that the evidence was in various states including Tennessee (Oak Ridge) and Virginia (Quantico). It has all now been returned and they are ready to inspect it. He stated he would request a Special Master to oversee the process. Jeff Ashton said that the issue had only come up recently and, at this point, it could be discussed at another time. This issue led to the next.
Money, money, money

Judge Perry then asked when Baez would be meeting with the JAC. This issue had to be dealt with "YESTERDAY"! When Baez indicated that Strickland had it tentatively scheduled for June or July, Perry asked him what day NEXT WEEK would be good for him. They settled on May 6th, at a time of Baez' choosing. I certainly hope the defense has it's budget outlined prior to then.

Change of Venue

Perry indicated that he will hear the motion on change of venue next week. He made it abundantly clear that he would like to choose a location which would be kept secret to the last minute and sequester the jury in Orlando. He indicated that there were acceptable locations both known and unknown that would be appropriate. I'd assume the "known" locations are those which Baez mentioned in his motion. If sequestered in Orlando, Perry indicated he would try the case 5 1/2 days a week!

He cited the cost issues involved with so many witnesses in the area. It would be far less expensive to bus in 12 jurors plus alternates and put them up in a nice hotel with DVD's and games chosen by both the prosecution and the defense.
Both during the hearing and later on InSession, Baez mentioned some of his problems with a sequestered jury. He cited possible demonstrators outside the Anthony home and the courthouse. He cited the terrible hardship on the jurors in being confined without TV and families. He mentioned that certain demographics would be left out of the jury pool.

What Baez wants is a change of venue to South Florida (Miami, Palm Beach) and have the jurors home and comfy during the trial. Then they will be with their families and their TV's (where coverage of the case will be non-stop).

Somehow, I think the judge will get his way in the end.

Witness Depositions

The judge was no-nonsense when it came to depositions. Linda Drane mentioned that the defense and prosecution had set up a schedule to meet once a week to meet for depositions. She believed they were on track with the April 5 order from Judge Strickland.

She also pointed out that there were some defense witnesses whose lawyers were having scheduling difficulties or stone-walling her. When she said that, Perry told her that if a witness did not show up for a deposition, she was to give a courtesy call to reschedule. After that, an order for contempt of court could be issued and that the sheriff would be glad to help bring the witness in.
Length of Trial

In summary, the case should last from 3-4 weeks for the prosecution's case-in-chief. The defense estimated their case could last for 3 weeks. There was no discussion of the possibility of a rebuttal case at this point.

The most dramatic moment came when Perry asked for the length of the penalty phase "should Ms. Anthony be found guilty of 1st Degree Murder. There was silence in the court. Jeff Ashton stated his case would take one day. After a bit of waffling and conferring with Andrea Lyon, the defense estimated a week for their case.

Judge Perry now has his ducks in a row and the process leading up to the trial will be moving on steadily towards May 9, 2010. As he said during the hearing, he will issue an order on the trial date and it will be SET IN STONE.

I'll be watching the Clerk of the Court site for specific hearing dates and times and will keep you updated.

The entire hearing took place in just under an hour. It's well worth watching if you haven't seen it already.
I would also recommend you read Donchais' article about the hearing. She can say in 10 words what I say in 100!




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 01, 2010, 03:08:32 PM
I just love Sprocket, thanks for bringing that over Trimm.  I sure wish she lived there so she could give up to the minute details from the courtroom, she is excellent at it.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 01, 2010, 07:33:19 PM
Evening Monks.....I don't know if this has been posted or not....but here goes.

Motion to seal KC's visitation logs..the only thing that bothers me a bit is it seems the prosecution takes no position on this..............sure they don't care cause they know....but what about US!!
 ::MonkeyDevil::

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/36538052/04292010-Motion-To-Seal-Jail-Visiting-Log-Records







Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 01, 2010, 07:37:24 PM
http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/
Casey Anthony’s Body Language Undergoes A Dramatic Change In the Courtroom For The First Time In Two Years
May 1, 2010 - 11 Responses

Thank you, Trimm.

I waded through the article, because I tend to enjoy her messages.

I especially liked this part:

Quote
If a jury sees her stoic and mannequin like  the way she appeared today and she appears that way throughout the trial, the jury  will definitely see her as the cold blooded  calculating murderess  the prosecution will paint her to be.

But it is apparent that she has not been reading Scared Monkeys. Her writing is still error-ridden.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 01, 2010, 07:39:44 PM
When I became aware of this motion my guess was because the was she was going to be seen by either psychologist or psychiatrist..... I still think that and it looks like RH kinda agrees with that...


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103541&page=4
Personally, I think he has a valid point as to any experts that were to visit her. With that said, the only relevant experts that would need to visit her would be experts in the field of psychology.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 01, 2010, 07:48:49 PM
I just love Sprocket, thanks for bringing that over Trimm.  I sure wish she lived there so she could give up to the minute details from the courtroom, she is excellent at it.  ::MonkeyCool::

Most excellent and informative posts, indeed.

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 01, 2010, 09:22:05 PM
When I became aware of this motion my guess was because the was she was going to be seen by either psychologist or psychiatrist..... I still think that and it looks like RH kinda agrees with that...


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103541&page=4
Personally, I think he has a valid point as to any experts that were to visit her. With that said, the only relevant experts that would need to visit her would be experts in the field of psychology.
And she certainly needs to be seen by someone in the field of psychology, along with her mother  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 01, 2010, 10:39:36 PM
When I became aware of this motion my guess was because the was she was going to be seen by either psychologist or psychiatrist..... I still think that and it looks like RH kinda agrees with that...


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103541&page=4
Personally, I think he has a valid point as to any experts that were to visit her. With that said, the only relevant experts that would need to visit her would be experts in the field of psychology.
And she certainly needs to be seen by someone in the field of psychology, along with her mother  ::MonkeyWink::

Yea, her mother needs a muzzle, straight jacket & Haledol, I doubt many would disagree with that....fo shur!   

All that girl needs it a jail cell to rot in for the rest of her life, but yes no doubt the defense will be sending in their hired hands to give an opposing view of the battery of tests she underwent when first incarcerated and continued visits while in jail (which are sealed).   I think it is important to remember that Casey does not have medical records that indicate any prior diagnoses, no record whatsoever of psychiatric care or mental health counseling of which I am sure her school records were already looked at.   A claim from Casey that she thought to seek help, does not a history make.  Her parents (mainly Cindy) emphatically denied that she had any mental health history (one example being Cindy Anthony's FBI interview).   The point being, the defense can try to put forward whatever they wish but if there is no record of it - it doesnt necessarily make it so.   I'm almost willing to bet that the psychiatrists that conducted tests & analyzed Casey will state that she is a narcissistic sociopath, maybe a prognosis of borderline personality disorder neither of which should make an impact with a jury on her guilt nor probably a consideration in sentencing.   While she may have an anti-social personality disorder, it makes little to no difference being that she knew the difference between right & wrong as well as went thru great lengths to conceal her actions.  IMHO, what will resonate with the jury more is that this is a very self-absorbed girl whom harbored jealousy & rage toward anyone that tried to stop her from doing what she wanted to do.  I do believe that it will be equally evident that Casey killed Caylee to spite her mother, the person she was most embattled with in life & held a relationship with Caylee that Casey despised.  If they are going with the abuse excuse, all they have are Casey's claims & what her friends may have repeated she told them....whoopie, that and a claim will just get her more jail nachos.  Additionally, her prior criminal history (conviction) and reported thefts (grandma, etc) will work against her as being a sympathetic lamb that may have killed because she was abused (keep in mind she picked an innocent defenseless baby as opposed to her abusers).  I'm also reminded that after a long drawn out defense by Leslie Abramson for the Menedez brothers even with the aid of a medical history she failed to get the Menedez Brothers acquitted while tried together (locked jury), in fact they were retried with separate trials (non televised) and they were both convicted of first degree murder as well as conspiracy to commit murder receiving life sentences, so the only thing they were spared was the death penalty.   The jury later reported that the abuse defense was not a factor in their deliberations but they collectively rejected the death penalty because neither brother had a felony record or a history of violence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 01, 2010, 10:56:15 PM

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/36538052/04292010-Motion-To-Seal-Jail-Visiting-Log-Records
I wanted to add that although we would like to know, I dont see that the defense motion to redact visitor logs concerning experts is that big of a deal, if they succeed in their argument that her right to a fair trial would be compromised.   Let them bring in who the taxpayers are going to end up paying for as defense experts - I see their testimony making little to no difference in the end.....I honestly dont.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on May 01, 2010, 11:49:39 PM
I just saw my neighbors toddler who'll be turning 3 in a cuple months. When I saw him last a few months ago he was getting out a word here and there and mostly yelling; now, he is definitely communicating verbally and is totally understandable--I was shocked at the difference. This made me think of poor little Caylee of course. Kids at that age seem to advance in verbal skills by leaps and bounds.
I believe the minute her child started to verbalize her thoughts, KC knew she had to to come up with a plan of action before her gig was up. It was only a matter of time before CA and GA heard that Caylee was spending the day at home after the grandparents were out of the house, and that there was no Zanny, and the rest of the inumerable lies would come to light. KC couldn't keep drugging Caylee indefinitely, because that too was bound to become apparent eventually. So she had to think of something, anything: maybe she could find on the Internet something in the house that could be used to get rid of Caylee, that could be deemed an accident, maybe stage a kidnapping like on OneTreeHill, SOMETHING! Then came the fight with Cindy on Father's Day. Caution went out the window and KC gave her temper full reign. She already had it semi-planned, so might as well act now. So she did.
For defense dupes that might say KC had no real motive to kill Caylee, that she could have just left her with her grandparents, they don't understand the pathological personality. KC's life was one big lie, and she would do anything to protect it. People were expendable, as long as KC's lies could remain intact, and life continue the way she wanted it. The only real thing in KC's life that made her feel worthwhile was her ability to hoodwink people. This is the same theme for countless people like her born (IMO) with this defective personality. This is the ONLY goal in their worthless lives.

SCATTY~ Agree with your excellent post.  I believe that you hit  it when you said "Kc's life was one big lie, and she would do anything to protect it................The only thing in KC's life that made her feel worthwile was her ability to hood wink people."

That was her strong suit, manipulating and using people. For a person like her, a toddler is impossible to use. Too young to bribe, too old to sedate to sleep for hours and hours, too immature to use as an ally in her schemes etc. Caylee was a problem and she was a rival. In fairy tales there can be only one princess

You both are SO correct - Caylee was telling CA things which she saw and CA was tearing into KC over it. One thing which I have not seen discussed, is................. if Caylee was being drugged with ANY type of drug, (zanex, chloroform, benedyrl, others) as those things start wearing off she would be a nervous wreck and cry a lot. She would have withdrawals because small children can't take a central nervous system depressants and not have them.  

Since CA was a home health care office worker the "drug" closet in that place would have been a treasure chest for KC to get her drugs for Caylee. There were many times that it talked about KC "stopping by" her mother's office.

Many elderly and very ill patients take liquid pain and other meds and the detail men (pharmaceutical salespersons) bring in cases of their drugs and put them in the "detail closet." All of them have things like oxycotin, zanex,liquid demerol, etc. Anyone who has ever worked in a Dr.'s office knows what I am talking about.

By the time LE checked the Anthony's medicine cabinets all of those "samples" would have been LONG GONE.....

Caylee's possible reaction to drugs wearing off reminds me of something removed from Caysee's room.  Anyone else remember????  There was a book about child-rearing with tantrum solutions underlined or highlighted.  Anyone else remember this???????  Maybe this was why.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: ISpy on May 02, 2010, 12:05:59 AM
The Video - I just posted - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCVALql9CJ4

Slore was doing her thing, playing with her hair, fixing her shirt ..all in face of the courtroom.
Smiles for BOBO - giggles - all is Well ....

Something clicked " OFF" with her when Judge Perry entered the room - to turn her into stone.
She was always one that had issues with Authority ..unfortunately I don't think she knows what Authority really means/meant until today.
Her reality was sweet,  quick and became painfully personal during these few short moments in the court this am ~ Priceless.. 
 :queen: :arrow: :shock:

 ::MonkeyRoll::


Deenie-  Thanks for posting this!  I wish I were a better lip reader right about now.  I'd really like to know what Conway was saying to an obviously frustrated George, who responds around 7:53-7:58 with a"...she's still my daughter." and then struggles to regain some self-control.  For microseconds, I do feel sorry for George in the sense that if he indeed is innocent of molesting Casey, how horrible it would be to have that accusation gone virile
(thanks to the media, the Internet, etc.) and have no way to prove your innocence.  Of course, that in no way excuses George for anything else he's done (MO).  I just wish for once he'd be a cop, instead of her father!  He should have stood up to Cindy long ago.  ITA with so many of you that Casey's going to throw her parents under the bus.  The jailhouse letters were just an undercover way to lay the groundwork for her mitigating circumstances...she's just a victim of her awful family.  MOO

Evening, all!  Given that Casey's very animated at the beginning of this video, I'm on the fence about her being on meds into the hearing.  ITA, she was statue-like throughout the hearing, but I'm thinking of that as more as warily studying and sizing up her adversary.  Aside from fake crying and "taking notes", we really haven't seen too much fidgeting from Casey during the last few hearings.  What I do find interesting is from 7:09-7:15, Baez says something/asks her something and we see her shake her head from side-to side "weighing the options".  From 7:15-7:19, Baez further states his point and then she nods in agreement.  I'd like to know what Mason said to her/asked her at 7:40 because at 7:42 Casey considers it for a spilt second before nodding her head "no" and she appears to say "I don't think so."  All of this together tell me at this point, she's not only fully cognizant, but also employing reasoning (processing information), logic (for her), and critical thinking (weighing and comparing two outcomes).  I think the stone-faced demeanor and the rigidity we see are Casey coldly calculating.  She knows she's being watched and every movement is being analyzed.  IMO, she's playing the game, not giving the opposition any ammunition.  She holds herself in check through court and most likely collapses in her cell afterwards and sleeps for awhile, IMO.  It's interesting the only angry reaction she's ever displayed outright was when Ashton talked about how Caylee's killer likely looked into her eyes as her mouth and nose were being duct-taped.  I also saw Casey clench her jaws when the party pics were mentioned ( a relative of mine does this when extremely angry, so I look for that).  It's also interesting that Cindy & George continue to publicly support her (Cindy more so than George).  George definitely looked angry when it came time for Casey to leave court...not sure if he was angry Casey was ignoring them/Cindy or if he hoped to make eye contact with this person who's publicly accused him of molesting her-IMO, the latter).  Judging by George's expressions throughout the hearing, I got the distinct impression he's not there of his own free will.  IMO, they've always covered for Casey when she's done someone dirty and now it's come full circle...they're tasting that vengeance and vindictiveness firsthand.  Their first thought should be, "Wow!  If she's treating us this way, how did she really treat Caylee when we weren't around?"  I think George is getting it.  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 02, 2010, 12:10:19 AM
I just saw my neighbors toddler who'll be turning 3 in a cuple months. When I saw him last a few months ago he was getting out a word here and there and mostly yelling; now, he is definitely communicating verbally and is totally understandable--I was shocked at the difference. This made me think of poor little Caylee of course. Kids at that age seem to advance in verbal skills by leaps and bounds.
I believe the minute her child started to verbalize her thoughts, KC knew she had to to come up with a plan of action before her gig was up. It was only a matter of time before CA and GA heard that Caylee was spending the day at home after the grandparents were out of the house, and that there was no Zanny, and the rest of the inumerable lies would come to light. KC couldn't keep drugging Caylee indefinitely, because that too was bound to become apparent eventually. So she had to think of something, anything: maybe she could find on the Internet something in the house that could be used to get rid of Caylee, that could be deemed an accident, maybe stage a kidnapping like on OneTreeHill, SOMETHING! Then came the fight with Cindy on Father's Day. Caution went out the window and KC gave her temper full reign. She already had it semi-planned, so might as well act now. So she did.
For defense dupes that might say KC had no real motive to kill Caylee, that she could have just left her with her grandparents, they don't understand the pathological personality. KC's life was one big lie, and she would do anything to protect it. People were expendable, as long as KC's lies could remain intact, and life continue the way she wanted it. The only real thing in KC's life that made her feel worthwhile was her ability to hoodwink people. This is the same theme for countless people like her born (IMO) with this defective personality. This is the ONLY goal in their worthless lives.

SCATTY~ Agree with your excellent post.  I believe that you hit  it when you said "Kc's life was one big lie, and she would do anything to protect it................The only thing in KC's life that made her feel worthwile was her ability to hood wink people."

That was her strong suit, manipulating and using people. For a person like her, a toddler is impossible to use. Too young to bribe, too old to sedate to sleep for hours and hours, too immature to use as an ally in her schemes etc. Caylee was a problem and she was a rival. In fairy tales there can be only one princess

You both are SO correct - Caylee was telling CA things which she saw and CA was tearing into KC over it. One thing which I have not seen discussed, is................. if Caylee was being drugged with ANY type of drug, (zanex, chloroform, benedyrl, others) as those things start wearing off she would be a nervous wreck and cry a lot. She would have withdrawals because small children can't take a central nervous system depressants and not have them.  

Since CA was a home health care office worker the "drug" closet in that place would have been a treasure chest for KC to get her drugs for Caylee. There were many times that it talked about KC "stopping by" her mother's office.

Many elderly and very ill patients take liquid pain and other meds and the detail men (pharmaceutical salespersons) bring in cases of their drugs and put them in the "detail closet." All of them have things like oxycotin, zanex,liquid demerol, etc. Anyone who has ever worked in a Dr.'s office knows what I am talking about.

By the time LE checked the Anthony's medicine cabinets all of those "samples" would have been LONG GONE.....

Caylee's possible reaction to drugs wearing off reminds me of something removed from Caysee's room.  Anyone else remember????  There was a book about child-rearing with tantrum solutions underlined or highlighted.  Anyone else remember this???????  Maybe this was why.

If memory serves, the book that Casey highlighted sections regarding temper tantrums was  "Caring for Your Baby and Young Child"
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61AVCGAHZNL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg)


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Post by: Cappuccino on May 02, 2010, 12:32:36 AM
Ispy, I totally agree with you that Casey's sudden stone face demeanor in front of the judge was rehearsed & calculated.   She went from an animated smiling & giggling narcissist to a inanimate statute.   I also feel that she is getting a sense that her getting away with this is greatly diminished, there were a few angry glares she gave Chief Judge Belvin Perry but her stance was one of being told not to react.   In my view, that will play as cold as if she was yucking it up with her "boys."   The jury will get a full view & range of this monster's true character no matter how hard they try to conceal it, she will screw up repetitively - same with her family, no shock there.


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Post by: mizjay on May 02, 2010, 02:24:26 AM
Ispy, I totally agree with you that Casey's sudden stone face demeanor in front of the judge was rehearsed & calculated.   She went from an animated smiling & giggling narcissist to an inanimate statute.   I also feel that she is getting a sense that her getting away with this is greatly diminished, there were a few angry glares she gave Chief Judge Belvin Perry but her stance was one of being told not to react.   In my view, that will play as cold as if she was yucking it up with her "boys."   The jury will get a full view & range of this monster's true character no matter how hard they try to conceal it, she will screw up repetitively - same with her family, no shock there.

So sorry for your loss CAP.

I think the gist of your post can also be applied to Baez too. He may have reined himself in slightly the other day but he also didn't have any titters or distractions from the prosecution, he (IMO) would immediately revert to the childish defensive behaviors had he thought they were dissing him. He seems to operate on a tit for tat mentality. Notice he refuses to yield to CM's seniority and knowledge. His peers write scathing remarks about his performances and still he won't step to second chair. His true character is barely hidden. He has contempt for authority and I don't really think he will be able to hide his petulant smirks and probably taunting tone. One other thing I noticed, it's him that attempts to get kc's giggle going. At one point she was sitting quietly and still but he leans in, smiles, says something that gets a grin. Why would he do this? seems like he would be breathing a sigh of relief that she finally got her act together, but he fearlessly tempts fate. He's a loose canon , I think he'll blow it first with JP.


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Post by: mizjay on May 02, 2010, 02:45:03 AM
» Christine said: { May 1, 2010 - 12:05:09 }
In the first 18 months that Casey Anthony has been in jail
1) ABC paid $200,000 for media pictures directly to Casey Anthony
2) Depaul Lawyer Andrea Lyon raised $70,000 for her defense
3) One of her lawyers donated $70,000 cash to her personally
That’s $340,000
In that First 18 months the Defense had only taken 8 depos and been before the judge 20 times.
(between July 16 2008 and January 2010.
But in total between the 3 Defense Lawyers
Andrea Lyon has appeared on 20 national Media interviews
Linda Kenney-Badin has appeared on 45 national Media interviews
Jose Baez has appeared on 90 national Media interviews.
Jose Baez has appeared on the over 100 local and Florida Media networks.
255 media interviews by the defense team and now they claim their client indigent. All $340 thousand gone…. No defense witness list… no discovery filed by the defense in 18 months.
The Florida State Atty office has given 0 media interviews and has released 140,000 pages of discovery and a witness list of over 250 people.
The defense team fought and won that there be no gag order on this case. And the fact remains that only $111,000 out of that 340,000 was accounted for IN COURT during the indigent hearing.
So yes…. Pretrial publicity is a factor in the Casey Anthony murder case.
And when the Media pays a suspect in a murder $200,000 it is a likely possibility that the MEDIA and the Defense team are playing a nasty game with the Judicial System.http://www.thehinkymeter.com

I hope it is alright to bring this post from The Hinky Meter but it has some interesting things and a good comment also.





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Post by: Cappuccino on May 02, 2010, 03:25:34 AM
» Christine said: { May 1, 2010 - 12:05:09 }
In the first 18 months that Casey Anthony has been in jail
1) ABC paid $200,000 for media pictures directly to Casey Anthony
2) Depaul Lawyer Andrea Lyon raised $70,000 for her defense
3) One of her lawyers donated $70,000 cash to her personally
That’s $340,000
In that First 18 months the Defense had only taken 8 depos and been before the judge 20 times.
(between July 16 2008 and January 2010.
But in total between the 3 Defense Lawyers
Andrea Lyon has appeared on 20 national Media interviews
Linda Kenney-Badin has appeared on 45 national Media interviews
Jose Baez has appeared on 90 national Media interviews.
Jose Baez has appeared on the over 100 local and Florida Media networks.
255 media interviews by the defense team and now they claim their client indigent. All $340 thousand gone…. No defense witness list… no discovery filed by the defense in 18 months.
The Florida State Atty office has given 0 media interviews and has released 140,000 pages of discovery and a witness list of over 250 people.
The defense team fought and won that there be no gag order on this case. And the fact remains that only $111,000 out of that 340,000 was accounted for IN COURT during the indigent hearing.
So yes…. Pretrial publicity is a factor in the Casey Anthony murder case.
And when the Media pays a suspect in a murder $200,000 it is a likely possibility that the MEDIA and the Defense team are playing a nasty game with the Judicial System.http://www.thehinkymeter.com

I hope it is alright to bring this post from The Hinky Meter but it has some interesting things and a good comment also.

Thank you Miz

Good gravy!  Kudos for the tally, that's a ton of counting  ::MonkeyHaHa::  It sure puts things in perspective.  And I still say  SHOW ME THE MONEY!   I still say that a mandatory full accounting for all monies collected toward Casey's defense should have taken place before deeming her indigent.

It sure seems to me that since the defense has not turned over any discovery to date is because they dont have any & are still fishing.  If they had anything substantial, be it factual or something that could be perceived as,  they would leak it even before turning it over in order to influence the potential jury pool & of course attempt to give the appearance that their client is innocent....they have not been able to do so to date.

Speaking of Linda Kenney-Badin, she sure fell off the map.  Will she still be the one that speaks to scientific evidence, I have my doubts she is still part of this sinking ship.

I agree about Bozo as well.  He's nicknamed after a clown because that is precisely what he is.   He has not earned any points by being sarcastic, arrogant, childish or combative.   Every time he pontificates in this manner he proves he's the fool he is.   He obtained his law degree from a mediocre school, took forever to pass the bar, got in trouble before he was even a seasoned attorney & has a very disturbing lack of respect for authority, rules or victims.   Then again what do you expect from a father that doesnt even pay child support with an occupation that does not give him an excuse as to why he didnt, so his so-called legal career matches his personal life, no respect or sense of responsibility.    The only thing that drives him is money & his over inflated ego.   I'm sure he's not repulsed by Casey because he is as brazen & remorseless as she is.

O/T   Im up watching coverage of what could have been a horrid disaster in Times Square tonight.  A vendor alerted a mounty officer with his horse "Miggs" that there was a suspicious car with smoke coming out of it, turns out the green Nissan SUV had an explosive device in it (many items combined found in the car).   This part of the city is bustling with people almost 24/7, this happened about 6:30PM when many are out to dinner, going to a broadway show, taking in the sights including ESPN, news organizations, MTV etc. etc.

It has been one helluva week, our loss of my dear MIL, last week 3 tornado warnings back to back & today we prayed with 3 more tornado warnings...I kid you not.   Today, there was a touchdown about 2 miles from my house, the only damage we sustained was a large bush was uprooted...wicked day.




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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 02, 2010, 06:41:35 AM
http://www.examiner.com/x-23328-True-Crime-Examiner~y2010m5d1-C
Casey Anthony 2.0: a new judge to save--or wave--her life?
May 1, 11:20 AMTrue Crime ExaminerIvy Bigbee


http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony Jail Visitation-Last Look?
Sunday May 2,2010




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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 02, 2010, 06:53:22 AM
I just saw my neighbors toddler who'll be turning 3 in a cuple months. When I saw him last a few months ago he was getting out a word here and there and mostly yelling; now, he is definitely communicating verbally and is totally understandable--I was shocked at the difference. This made me think of poor little Caylee of course. Kids at that age seem to advance in verbal skills by leaps and bounds.
I believe the minute her child started to verbalize her thoughts, KC knew she had to to come up with a plan of action before her gig was up. It was only a matter of time before CA and GA heard that Caylee was spending the day at home after the grandparents were out of the house, and that there was no Zanny, and the rest of the inumerable lies would come to light. KC couldn't keep drugging Caylee indefinitely, because that too was bound to become apparent eventually. So she had to think of something, anything: maybe she could find on the Internet something in the house that could be used to get rid of Caylee, that could be deemed an accident, maybe stage a kidnapping like on OneTreeHill, SOMETHING! Then came the fight with Cindy on Father's Day. Caution went out the window and KC gave her temper full reign. She already had it semi-planned, so might as well act now. So she did.
For defense dupes that might say KC had no real motive to kill Caylee, that she could have just left her with her grandparents, they don't understand the pathological personality. KC's life was one big lie, and she would do anything to protect it. People were expendable, as long as KC's lies could remain intact, and life continue the way she wanted it. The only real thing in KC's life that made her feel worthwhile was her ability to hoodwink people. This is the same theme for countless people like her born (IMO) with this defective personality. This is the ONLY goal in their worthless lives.

SCATTY~ Agree with your excellent post.  I believe that you hit  it when you said "Kc's life was one big lie, and she would do anything to protect it................The only thing in KC's life that made her feel worthwile was her ability to hood wink people."

That was her strong suit, manipulating and using people. For a person like her, a toddler is impossible to use. Too young to bribe, too old to sedate to sleep for hours and hours, too immature to use as an ally in her schemes etc. Caylee was a problem and she was a rival. In fairy tales there can be only one princess

You both are SO correct - Caylee was telling CA things which she saw and CA was tearing into KC over it. One thing which I have not seen discussed, is................. if Caylee was being drugged with ANY type of drug, (zanex, chloroform, benedyrl, others) as those things start wearing off she would be a nervous wreck and cry a lot. She would have withdrawals because small children can't take a central nervous system depressants and not have them.  

Since CA was a home health care office worker the "drug" closet in that place would have been a treasure chest for KC to get her drugs for Caylee. There were many times that it talked about KC "stopping by" her mother's office.

Many elderly and very ill patients take liquid pain and other meds and the detail men (pharmaceutical salespersons) bring in cases of their drugs and put them in the "detail closet." All of them have things like oxycotin, zanex,liquid demerol, etc. Anyone who has ever worked in a Dr.'s office knows what I am talking about.

By the time LE checked the Anthony's medicine cabinets all of those "samples" would have been LONG GONE.....

Caylee's possible reaction to drugs wearing off reminds me of something removed from Caysee's room.  Anyone else remember????  There was a book about child-rearing with tantrum solutions underlined or highlighted.  Anyone else remember this???????  Maybe this was why.

Yes.Title is Caring For Your Baby and Young Child
http://www.momlogic.com/2009/02/casey_anthony_diary_1.php


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Post by: theboyzmom on May 02, 2010, 08:52:09 AM
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  I'm almost willing to bet that the psychiatrists that conducted tests & analyzed Casey will state that she is a narcissistic sociopath, maybe a prognosis of borderline personality disorder neither of which should make an impact with a jury on her guilt nor probably a consideration in sentencing.   While she may have an anti-social personality disorder, it makes little to no difference being that she knew the difference between right & wrong as well as went thru great lengths to conceal her actions. 


I agree with you Capp - and remember that sociopath or personality disorders are NOT mental illnesses in the sense they can be treated - they are a diagnosis but can not be changed (mitigated or minimized in some cases but no cure!)


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 02, 2010, 09:32:32 AM
New Judge Gets Casey Anthony case 05/01/10
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/36885443#36885443



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Post by: Cappuccino on May 02, 2010, 11:11:25 AM
{{{snip}}}}

  I'm almost willing to bet that the psychiatrists that conducted tests & analyzed Casey will state that she is a narcissistic sociopath, maybe a prognosis of borderline personality disorder neither of which should make an impact with a jury on her guilt nor probably a consideration in sentencing.   While she may have an anti-social personality disorder, it makes little to no difference being that she knew the difference between right & wrong as well as went thru great lengths to conceal her actions. 


I agree with you Capp - and remember that sociopath or personality disorders are NOT mental illnesses in the sense they can be treated - they are a diagnosis but can not be changed (mitigated or minimized in some cases but no cure!)
Yup


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Post by: Deenie on May 02, 2010, 11:27:19 AM
Happy Sunday

I was thinking about " the Book" http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Caring-for-Your-Baby-and-Young-Child/Steven-P-Shelov/e/9780553379624/?itm=4&USRI=caring+for+your+baby+and+young+child+birth+to+age+5

snipped from the Barnes & Noble link above: Annotation

"A comprehensive childcare guide as well as an encyclopedic guide to recognizing and solving health and behavior problems."

Then went back in my mind to Grandma Plesea's interview with LE. The first two mins of this video is Shirley talking about Caylee's general disposition- a blanket statement of how Caylee has been via age as toddler. I believe that Grandma probably was recalling Caylee as present visiting with her/family. And as well of what Cindy has said of Caylee, while under her/CA care. Thinking of my own Daughter. She was at her best when she turned 2. From 2-3 she was a little love bug no issues. The day she turned 3, I thought someone had taken her and replaced her with a clone. OMG the 3's were the worst. A week before she turned 4 she was back. The sweetest child in the world.

I was thinking too on what " Turbo ? " was it - was talking about drugs. If in fact drugs were being used on Caylee she would have shown " coming off or coming down" of them.
Two events I recall of OTC meds and children Caylee's age.
One was my own Daughter. She had a cold and I was giving her Children's liquid cold medicine. She was about 2 yrs old or a little older than 2. It was 1 am or so and she and I were exhausted. I went to give her the dose and I slipped into her mouth - and I realized within a second - I had given her TOO Much.  It was very apparent that I did. She instantly was " On Speed High" - it was like she could not stand still ..she began running around and her pupils were as big as Black Olives. Scared the living hell out of me. That was the reaction that my Daughter had. I will never forget that night. Had it been Benadryl..she I believe would have been the opposite. In a sleep coma like state.
The other event was a little boy that was in the ER when my Daughter was 9 or so. She had the flu so bad...it was late at night. This little boy was 3 no older. He was covered from head to toe with wheels - huge hives. He was screaming his heart out for over 2 hours straight. They had him hooked up to a Ekg. He was in the next room. I kept poking my head out of our room to the hall ..trying to figure out what was wrong with him. Because his screaming was so intense both myself and daughter were crying. His Mother and Father began to argue in the Hall - quite heated. The little boy had a cold and the Mom was giving him Triaminic. She left the bottle somewhere without the top on - at his reach and he drank the contents of the bottle. He almost died from it. He from what I heard almost had a heart attack -his little heart beat was jumping all over the place. Same thing with what happened with my daughter. Although she only received a double dose by my error. This little boy drank the almost full bottle. That is why You never say " Its Candy" .. kids don't understand.   
The vid below is Shirley talking about Caylee - its up until 2:00.

http://www.youtube.com/v/_pIaEMSMUvI&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0


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Post by: Deenie on May 02, 2010, 11:48:48 AM
Benadryl information http://www.healthsquare.com/newrx/ben1050.htm

 Benadryl is an antihistamine with drying and sedative effects. It relieves red, inflamed eyes caused by food allergies and the itching, swelling, and redness from hives and other rashes that are caused by mild allergic reactions. It also relieves the sneezing, coughing, runny or stuffy nose, and red, teary, itching eyes caused by seasonal allergies (hay fever) and the common cold. Antihistamines work by decreasing the effects of histamine, a chemical released in the body that narrows air passages in the lungs and contributes to inflammation. Antihistamines reduce itching and swelling and dry up secretions from the nose, eyes, and throat.

Benadryl is also used to treat allergic reactions to blood transfusions, to prevent and treat motion sickness, and, with other drugs, to treat anaphylactic shock (severe allergic reaction) and Parkinson's disease, a nerve disorder characterized by tremors, stooped posture, shuffling walk, muscle weakness, drooling, and emotional instability.
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Antihistamines may produce excitability in children. In the elderly they may cause dizziness, excessive calm, or low blood pressure.
 Side effects cannot be anticipated. If any develop or change in intensity, inform your doctor as soon as possible. Only your doctor can determine if it is safe for you to continue taking Benadryl.

    * More common side effects may include:
      Disturbed coordination, dizziness, excessive calm, increased chest congestion, sleepiness, stomach upset

    * Less common or rare side effects may include:
      Anaphylactic shock (extreme allergic reaction), anemia, blurred vision, chills, confusion, constipation, convulsions, diarrhea, difficulty sleeping, double vision, dry mouth, nose, throat, early menstruation, excessive perspiration, excitation, fast, fluttery heartbeat, fatigue, frequent or difficult urination, headache, hives, inability to urinate, increased sensitivity to light, irregular heartbeat, irritability, loss of appetite, low blood pressure, nausea, nervousness, rapid heartbeat, rash, restlessness, ringing in the ears, stuffy nose, tightness of chest and wheezing, tingling or pins and needles, tremor, unreal or exaggerated sense of well-being, vertigo, vomiting

-- Again I believe it was Turbo that said of Cindy having a cocktail Med Closet at work - filled with samples from Pharm reps etc. I worked for a Doc too and we had a huge metal cab with every thing you can imagine inside. Samples/Pharma by the tons. No matter if it was something that our Doc would prescribe or not ..they the reps would leave everything for her. She had her own private office where I was employed - she as well was staff at two different Hospitals and a wound care surgical facility. They the reps left everything from Hard Core to soft core meds. All about $$. Best of my knowledge " No One" in the office took inventory of those samples. I don't believe my Doc even knew at times what was in that cocktail closet. So if Cindy was pinching drugs from that closet for her own use - or for Caylee for that matter. Was it said that Caylee did not have health insurance? I can't recall.
Or that Casey was able to find her 5 finger discount within visits of the office .. which I believe is possible. Within every box of Sample is the insert and within the insert its much more explicit info about the med -written for a medical professional to read/understand. Truly not the same info we receive from a script from the pharmacy. A sample as well is never a script - It is what is a sample. Its not made dosage appropriate for All patients.
Makes you wonder what Cindy brought home for use. Also it could be that Casey could plant seeds in Cindy's head - Mom I can't sleep at night, Can you bring home something from work ..? And Here Comes Cindy home with a bag full of narcotics.   ::MonkeyEek::

 


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Post by: Cappuccino on May 02, 2010, 12:17:10 PM
Cindy Anthony worked for Gentiva Health Services as an administrative nurse, a home healthcare company.   If memory serves, she worked in an office & did not have nursing care interaction with patients with much discussion as to whether she had access to medications (or samples from pharm reps).  I'd be curious for a more concrete answer on this from her co workers & from the horse's mouth.   It could be if the answer is unclear we might hear it during the civil trial in June....O boy! I cannot wait for that!   I fully expect that Cindy & George will make their depositions look like they were on valium, I think they will lose their composure as they always have, not to mention lie their faces off.


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Post by: Deenie on May 02, 2010, 12:33:12 PM
Cindy Anthony worked for Gentiva Health Services as an administrative nurse, a home healthcare company.   If memory serves, she worked in an office & did not have nursing care interaction with patients with much discussion as to whether she had access to medications (or samples from pharm reps).  I'd be curious for a more concrete answer on this from her co workers & from the horse's mouth.   It could be if the answer is unclear we might hear it during the civil trial in June....O boy! I cannot wait for that!   I fully expect that Cindy & George will make their depositions look like they were on valium, I think they will lose their composure as they always have, not to mention lie their faces off.
Cappy at the office I worked in, only my personal experience can I share. This was a plastic surgeon's office. 
Reps would come in all the time - unannounced or by appt. My Doc never had " Time" to sit down with these sales reps. They/Reps would leave a bag or bags filled with drugs/samples at reception. And the pens, sticky's, coffee cups etc.. Sometimes Dr J was not even present in the office ..and they would still leave bags filled with meds etc.. She would not even know that they came in. Anything though that was dropped off was put in her private office -by her instruction, nothing went straight to the med locker.   
Our Cab never had a lock on it. We had a very small staff. Only Dr J and one other PA had the ability to write scripts. Thinking back, when Ambien was brought in .. Dr J put the samples in the Medical Exam rooms with pamphlets/info. Was right on the counter in every exam room in a display box. Just makes you wonder about Cindy and her place of work. I always thought that Dr J was lapse on those samples. That they were at anyone's disposal at any time. She didn't have the time to think about it,  *my guess and she trusted her staff.
 
 


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Post by: Deenie on May 02, 2010, 12:51:33 PM
Has anything been said lately about CA/GA and their claims of being flat broke?

Are they still losing the house on Hopespring to foreclosure ? I may have missed it. I do recall rumors that they were remodeling. With all the talk of Monies that have floated between parties ... I don't know? Will their personal business will be brought into submission "Court" ? - with the next hearing with Judge Perry. It does make one wonder though within all the discrepancies of who received what within the selling of Caylee's photo's etc...  Is it possible that CA/GA will be under the microscope of Money received ...??

 


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Post by: Western Observr on May 02, 2010, 01:01:40 PM
Home Health agencies have no reason to stock meds-  their patients meds are supplied directly to them by their own pharmacies. The only exception might be IV admix solutions, that might-  might- be delivered by IV pharmacy suppliers, but I doubt it.  Meds in general are delivered directly to the patient.  The HH agency may stock a few antiseptic solutions, wound cleansing agents, but I very much doubt they would keep anything other than that.  There is no physician at the office for Reps to sell to, so possibility of samples...   no Med cabinet.


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Post by: Deenie on May 02, 2010, 01:56:49 PM
Civil Suit Pre-trial May 4, 2010 @ 1:30  - Zenaida Gonzales Vs Casey Anthony
Posted by Sierra YT
http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/a/u/0/gtmgZgiO3q0
Its a media short reminding everyone of the civil suit - ZG  - less than 60 secs.
The link that she offers - Docstoc ( which I am sure has been posted on SM before)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/30915075/Casey-Anthony-Civil-case-ZFG-witness-list/

The witness list/exhibit list named " 84" people - last added Jose Baez makes 85. This document was written and submitted in court Dec 16, 2009.
# 6 on the witness list is Skye Benhaida
Struck me funny "witness list" that Skye right up front - listed 1. ZG herself, 2. Casey, 3. Cindy, 4. George, 5. Lee and witness number 6 " Skye". #7 is possibly Krystal " River"
With 85 people listed - are these people listed by priority within the names?

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2010-03-22/news/os-casey-anthony-zenaida-20100322_1_george-anthony-cindy-anthony-witnesses
snipped: written 3/22/2010 Orlando Sentinel
 Gonzalez is suing Anthony for more than $15,000 in damages.
Also among the potential witnesses: Private investigators Dominic Casey and Jim Hoover; California bounty hunter Leonard Padilla, who helped post Casey Anthony's bond; FBI agents; FDLE agents and detectives from the Orange County Sheriff's Office.

Morgan could call Anthony's ex-boyfriends as witnesses — including Jesse Grund, Ricardo Morales and Anthony Lazzaro, according to his list. A woman who says her sister had an affair with George Anthony is also on the witness list. Her name is listed as Skye Benhaida, although Benhaida is believed to be an alias.
Another witness — possibly the sister, Crystal Holloway, is listed as "F/N/U [Full name unknown] Benhaida. The attorney included "any and all witnesses" listed on any witness lists filed by the state in its criminal case against Anthony.
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Seems like no matter where you turn River and Skye keep popping back into the picture.
Neither one of them have been found credible ...... to date  ::MonkeyNoNo::  I thought they both said that LE approached them in January 2010 chasing George's cell phone records etc.. Yet both are named on a witness list in Dec 09 for witness in ZG civil suit ... (( I must have missed something along the way)) within all the confusion offered by these women.


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Post by: Cappuccino on May 02, 2010, 02:10:21 PM
Has anything been said lately about CA/GA and their claims of being flat broke?

Are they still losing the house on Hopespring to foreclosure ? I may have missed it. I do recall rumors that they were remodeling. With all the talk of Monies that have floated between parties ... I don't know? Will their personal business will be brought into submission "Court" ? - with the next hearing with Judge Perry. It does make one wonder though within all the discrepancies of who received what within the selling of Caylee's photo's etc...  Is it possible that CA/GA will be under the microscope of Money received ...??

 

Yes, the house is still in foreclosure & they have a separate attorney now to represent them who is attempting to get a settlement mediation...considering their delinquency riddled history & the fact that they have shown to spend monies other than their mortgage when they could have I'm not sure they will succeed.   I'm sure they will put on the waterworks & use the murder of their granddaughter as a reason why they KNOWINGLY lapsed in addition to not being able to work in their minds but I'm not sure the mortgage company will be too willing to work with them to keep the home.   One of the main reasons I lean that way is that to date neither are working & they would probably have to show a steady income including pay stubs as proof for that to even be considered.   It is hard to say for sure either way because we do not have all the paperwork in front of us.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 02, 2010, 02:15:33 PM
Home Health agencies have no reason to stock meds-  their patients meds are supplied directly to them by their own pharmacies. The only exception might be IV admix solutions, that might-  might- be delivered by IV pharmacy suppliers, but I doubt it.  Meds in general are delivered directly to the patient.  The HH agency may stock a few antiseptic solutions, wound cleansing agents, but I very much doubt they would keep anything other than that.  There is no physician at the office for Reps to sell to, so possibility of samples...   no Med cabinet.

This is true.   In fact, a recent personal example of this for me was regarding my MIL whom just passed.   She was in hospice care in a facility, her meds were indeed delivered from her pharmacy directly.  We actually had an incident last Saturday evening when the end was imminent the doctor had a script for morphine ordered, it took several hours to get it there & we were quite annoyed it took that long.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 02, 2010, 02:25:43 PM
Has anything been said lately about CA/GA and their claims of being flat broke?

Are they still losing the house on Hopespring to foreclosure ? I may have missed it. I do recall rumors that they were remodeling. With all the talk of Monies that have floated between parties ... I don't know? Will their personal business will be brought into submission "Court" ? - with the next hearing with Judge Perry. It does make one wonder though within all the discrepancies of who received what within the selling of Caylee's photo's etc...  Is it possible that CA/GA will be under the microscope of Money received ...??
 

Yes, the house is still in foreclosure & they have a separate attorney now to represent them who is attempting to get a settlement mediation...considering their delinquency riddled history & the fact that they have shown to spend monies other than their mortgage when they could have I'm not sure they will succeed.   I'm sure they will put on the waterworks & use the murder of their granddaughter as a reason why they KNOWINGLY lapsed in addition to not being able to work in their minds but I'm not sure the mortgage company will be too willing to work with them to keep the home.   One of the main reasons I lean that way is that to date neither are working & they would probably have to show a steady income including pay stubs as proof for that to even be considered.   It is hard to say for sure either way because we do not have all the paperwork in front of us.
I guess we will have to wait and see ~ Thank you Capp. Just from my friends who are experiencing personal financial issues and have had foreclosure rear its ugly head.. I would not want to trade shoes with them ever/ I pray for them literally.  My point is if the Ants are creating this with excuses of their own actions or lack of ..its just one more act of deplority. Is that a word? If it isn't .. it still fits.
So many American's are suffering even employed with solid work history. Nothing shocks me any more when the Ant's are considered. Uggh.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 02, 2010, 02:58:46 PM
Has anything been said lately about CA/GA and their claims of being flat broke?

Are they still losing the house on Hopespring to foreclosure ? I may have missed it. I do recall rumors that they were remodeling. With all the talk of Monies that have floated between parties ... I don't know? Will their personal business will be brought into submission "Court" ? - with the next hearing with Judge Perry. It does make one wonder though within all the discrepancies of who received what within the selling of Caylee's photo's etc...  Is it possible that CA/GA will be under the microscope of Money received ...??
 

Yes, the house is still in foreclosure & they have a separate attorney now to represent them who is attempting to get a settlement mediation...considering their delinquency riddled history & the fact that they have shown to spend monies other than their mortgage when they could have I'm not sure they will succeed.   I'm sure they will put on the waterworks & use the murder of their granddaughter as a reason why they KNOWINGLY lapsed in addition to not being able to work in their minds but I'm not sure the mortgage company will be too willing to work with them to keep the home.   One of the main reasons I lean that way is that to date neither are working & they would probably have to show a steady income including pay stubs as proof for that to even be considered.   It is hard to say for sure either way because we do not have all the paperwork in front of us.
I guess we will have to wait and see ~ Thank you Capp. Just from my friends who are experiencing personal financial issues and have had foreclosure rear its ugly head.. I would not want to trade shoes with them ever/ I pray for them literally.  My point is if the Ants are creating this with excuses of their own actions or lack of ..its just one more act of deplority. Is that a word? If it isn't .. it still fits.
So many American's are suffering even employed with solid work history. Nothing shocks me any more when the Ant's are considered. Uggh.   

There is absolutely no reason that by now both of them should not be able to work.   We've heard George state that he has difficult because of the publicity of the case, but what he is missing is that most individuals find them repulsive, and yes their conduct deplorable.   His long list of short term employment doesnt help either, but still no excuse if he can water a lawn & pour concrete he could always do manual labor.   Many victims of crime cannot nor do not roll over and cave to not being product citizens after a reasonable grieving period, they should not be an exception but only in their own minds.  I'm curious as to why Cindy's disability is still continuing, if it were any of us we would have probably been cut off by now.   To our knowledge, she has not received permanent disability.

If they can afford to rent somewhere else, why didnt they pay their mortgage?   If they can't afford their mortgage, how are they financing renovations?   Blood money, but still logic dictates that they would pay for the roof over their heads first and foremost.   I think they are avoiding having assets in the event that they are sued, once they feel they are in the clear (yea good luck with that) they'd probably attempt to purchase a new home...but then again with such a checkered financial history how do they expect to get a mortgage then....they defy logic, decency & accountability.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 02, 2010, 03:01:27 PM
o goodness   correction productive NOT product


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 02, 2010, 03:38:19 PM
Cindy Anthony worked for Gentiva Health Services as an administrative nurse, a home healthcare company.   If memory serves, she worked in an office & did not have nursing care interaction with patients with much discussion as to whether she had access to medications (or samples from pharm reps).  I'd be curious for a more concrete answer on this from her co workers & from the horse's mouth.   It could be if the answer is unclear we might hear it during the civil trial in June....O boy! I cannot wait for that!   I fully expect that Cindy & George will make their depositions look like they were on valium, I think they will lose their composure as they always have, not to mention lie their faces off.
Cappy at the office I worked in, only my personal experience can I share. This was a plastic surgeon's office. 
Reps would come in all the time - unannounced or by appt. My Doc never had " Time" to sit down with these sales reps. They/Reps would leave a bag or bags filled with drugs/samples at reception. And the pens, sticky's, coffee cups etc.. Sometimes Dr J was not even present in the office ..and they would still leave bags filled with meds etc.. She would not even know that they came in. Anything though that was dropped off was put in her private office -by her instruction, nothing went straight to the med locker.   
Our Cab never had a lock on it. We had a very small staff. Only Dr J and one other PA had the ability to write scripts. Thinking back, when Ambien was brought in .. Dr J put the samples in the Medical Exam rooms with pamphlets/info. Was right on the counter in every exam room in a display box. Just makes you wonder about Cindy and her place of work. I always thought that Dr J was lapse on those samples. That they were at anyone's disposal at any time. She didn't have the time to think about it,  *my guess and she trusted her staff.
 
A
Gentiva even had a specialty pharmaceutical services division, which  administered infusion and injectable pharmaceuticals to patients with both acute, terminal and chronic disease, I think they sold it to Medco.

In 06 or 07 Gentiva bought out Healthfield Group, and opened in many places as  provider of home care and pharmaceutical service combined. I am going to have to check some more to find out how these individual offices operate but I am prone to believe they would have a "detail closet" which was accessible to at least CA since she was the manager of that office.  I remember reading the interviews of her co-workers, and about all I remember about these interviews is how they said KC came by there often at times.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 02, 2010, 03:38:26 PM
o goodness   correction productive NOT product
No need to correct yourself - they are both non productive and a product of themselves.

With George his background -would able him to be Night Watchman - He would not have to worry about  "Public" seeing him nor judging him ..just a thought.  He would able to handle a job such at midnights. Say in a building or foot patrol within in/out of a business requiring security.
Cindy too would be able to offer her services some way - I would think with her knowledge that she has. Maybe not as a care giver - but would be able to be employed somehow. Not everyone in Florida knows GA/CA. I find it funny that both are so not willing to risk themselves- to gain/find employment due to their "personal feelings". That they feel their status/characters within the case, will instantly disqualify them from gaining employment. 
Yet same same both find themselves so Self Righteous and feel that they are Above everyone ......and that all should kiss their bums (and feel sorry for them at the same time) .. total answer to both equations 
" Cowards "  They made their bed all by themselves. The Public's only place within all of this -  is the reaction of their/Ant's actions. jmo. The can't blame the public :smt023
 





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 02, 2010, 07:39:48 PM
The Video - I just posted - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCVALql9CJ4

Slore was doing her thing, playing with her hair, fixing her shirt ..all in face of the courtroom.
Smiles for BOBO - giggles - all is Well ....

Something clicked " OFF" with her when Judge Perry entered the room - to turn her into stone.
She was always one that had issues with Authority ..unfortunately I don't think she knows what Authority really means/meant until today.
Her reality was sweet,  quick and became painfully personal during these few short moments in the court this am ~ Priceless.. 
 :queen: :arrow: :shock:

 ::MonkeyRoll::


Deenie-  Thanks for posting this!  I wish I were a better lip reader right about now.  I'd really like to know what Conway was saying to an obviously frustrated George, who responds around 7:53-7:58 with a"...she's still my daughter." and then struggles to regain some self-control.  For microseconds, I do feel sorry for George in the sense that if he indeed is innocent of molesting Casey, how horrible it would be to have that accusation gone virile
(thanks to the media, the Internet, etc.) and have no way to prove your innocence.  Of course, that in no way excuses George for anything else he's done (MO).  I just wish for once he'd be a cop, instead of her father!  He should have stood up to Cindy long ago.  ITA with so many of you that Casey's going to throw her parents under the bus.  The jailhouse letters were just an undercover way to lay the groundwork for her mitigating circumstances...she's just a victim of her awful family.  MOO

Evening, all!  Given that Casey's very animated at the beginning of this video, I'm on the fence about her being on meds into the hearing.  ITA, she was statue-like throughout the hearing, but I'm thinking of that as more as warily studying and sizing up her adversary.  Aside from fake crying and "taking notes", we really haven't seen too much fidgeting from Casey during the last few hearings.  What I do find interesting is from 7:09-7:15, Baez says something/asks her something and we see her shake her head from side-to side "weighing the options".  From 7:15-7:19, Baez further states his point and then she nods in agreement.  I'd like to know what Mason said to her/asked her at 7:40 because at 7:42 Casey considers it for a spilt second before nodding her head "no" and she appears to say "I don't think so."  All of this together tell me at this point, she's not only fully cognizant, but also employing reasoning (processing information), logic (for her), and critical thinking (weighing and comparing two outcomes).  I think the stone-faced demeanor and the rigidity we see are Casey coldly calculating.  She knows she's being watched and every movement is being analyzed.  IMO, she's playing the game, not giving the opposition any ammunition.  She holds herself in check through court and most likely collapses in her cell afterwards and sleeps for awhile, IMO.  It's interesting the only angry reaction she's ever displayed outright was when Ashton talked about how Caylee's killer likely looked into her eyes as her mouth and nose were being duct-taped.  I also saw Casey clench her jaws when the party pics were mentioned ( a relative of mine does this when extremely angry, so I look for that).  It's also interesting that Cindy & George continue to publicly support her (Cindy more so than George).  George definitely looked angry when it came time for Casey to leave court...not sure if he was angry Casey was ignoring them/Cindy or if he hoped to make eye contact with this person who's publicly accused him of molesting her-IMO, the latter).  Judging by George's expressions throughout the hearing, I got the distinct impression he's not there of his own free will.  IMO, they've always covered for Casey when she's done someone dirty and now it's come full circle...they're tasting that vengeance and vindictiveness firsthand.  Their first thought should be, "Wow!  If she's treating us this way, how did she really treat Caylee when we weren't around?"  I think George is getting it.  JMO

Here!  Here!   And...Cindy looked scared/worried IMO.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 02, 2010, 07:41:43 PM
Ispy, I totally agree with you that Casey's sudden stone face demeanor in front of the judge was rehearsed & calculated.   She went from an animated smiling & giggling narcissist to an inanimate statute.   I also feel that she is getting a sense that her getting away with this is greatly diminished, there were a few angry glares she gave Chief Judge Belvin Perry but her stance was one of being told not to react.   In my view, that will play as cold as if she was yucking it up with her "boys."   The jury will get a full view & range of this monster's true character no matter how hard they try to conceal it, she will screw up repetitively - same with her family, no shock there.

So sorry for your loss CAP.

I think the gist of your post can also be applied to Baez too. He may have reined himself in slightly the other day but he also didn't have any titters or distractions from the prosecution, he (IMO) would immediately revert to the childish defensive behaviors had he thought they were dissing him. He seems to operate on a tit for tat mentality. Notice he refuses to yield to CM's seniority and knowledge. His peers write scathing remarks about his performances and still he won't step to second chair. His true character is barely hidden. He has contempt for authority and I don't really think he will be able to hide his petulant smirks and probably taunting tone. One other thing I noticed, it's him that attempts to get kc's giggle going. At one point she was sitting quietly and still but he leans in, smiles, says something that gets a grin. Why would he do this? seems like he would be breathing a sigh of relief that she finally got her act together, but he fearlessly tempts fate. He's a loose canon , I think he'll blow it first with JP.

Mizjay...agree...and hope we're both right!   ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 02, 2010, 07:43:29 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/
Here’s to Aristarchy
May 1, 2010 · 135 Comments


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 02, 2010, 07:58:15 PM
Cindy Anthony worked for Gentiva Health Services as an administrative nurse, a home healthcare company.   If memory serves, she worked in an office & did not have nursing care interaction with patients with much discussion as to whether she had access to medications (or samples from pharm reps).  I'd be curious for a more concrete answer on this from her co workers & from the horse's mouth.   It could be if the answer is unclear we might hear it during the civil trial in June....O boy! I cannot wait for that!   I fully expect that Cindy & George will make their depositions look like they were on valium, I think they will lose their composure as they always have, not to mention lie their faces off.

Capp...IF Cindy and George do lose the composure and/or lie about stuff...even though this is is a "civil" trial...wouldn't/couldn't they be up for some sort of judicial punishment; i.e., (according to what happens) obstruction of justice or lying under oath?  TIA



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 02, 2010, 07:59:43 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/
Here’s to Aristarchy
May 1, 2010 · 135 Comments

thanks trim.....ole marinadebrain is basking in his GLORY.  He WILL NOT allow any of my posts to be published........... ::MonkeyDevil::

looks like he is trying for the BIG TIME ::MonkeyWink::

 Marinade Dave  // May 1, 2010 at 10:54 pm

katfish – I am still looking for the second interview. Yes, I’m used to it now, but I’ve never been camera shy. Yup, there was a magazine editor following me around that morning, but I am not really at liberty to say anything right now other than it was not People magazine.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Babybear on May 02, 2010, 08:06:06 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/
Here’s to Aristarchy
May 1, 2010 · 135 Comments

Hi Monkeys--Thanks for the link, Trim.

One can only wonder what "Aristarchy" means.  Does it mean Aristocracy?  Anarchy?
A couple of days ago I saw a link to a site that said "Wave" rather than "Waive."  I also think the marinade guy thinks a lot more of himself than most others do.  But there seems to be an epidemic of that surrounding this case.   Nice though for Dave to take the heat so Casey can be assured a fair trial.  What an ego. 

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Babybear on May 02, 2010, 08:09:08 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/
Here’s to Aristarchy
May 1, 2010 · 135 Comments

thanks trim.....ole marinadebrain is basking in his GLORY.  He WILL NOT allow any of my posts to be published........... ::MonkeyDevil::

looks like he is trying for the BIG TIME ::MonkeyWink::

 Marinade Dave  // May 1, 2010 at 10:54 pm

katfish – I am still looking for the second interview. Yes, I’m used to it now, but I’ve never been camera shy. Yup, there was a magazine editor following me around that morning, but I am not really at liberty to say anything right now other than it was not People magazine.


Hi Sunny--I didn't see your comment before I posted mine. Marinade Dave is an idiot.  Imagine that!  A magazine editor! Sure, Dave.  Marvel Comics?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 02, 2010, 08:17:05 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/
Here’s to Aristarchy
May 1, 2010 · 135 Comments

thanks trim.....ole marinadebrain is basking in his GLORY.  He WILL NOT allow any of my posts to be published........... ::MonkeyDevil::

looks like he is trying for the BIG TIME ::MonkeyWink::

 Marinade Dave  // May 1, 2010 at 10:54 pm

katfish – I am still looking for the second interview. Yes, I’m used to it now, but I’ve never been camera shy. Yup, there was a magazine editor following me around that morning, but I am not really at liberty to say anything right now other than it was not People magazine.


Hi Sunny--I didn't see your comment before I posted mine. Marinade Dave is an idiot.  Imagine that!  A magazine editor! Sure, Dave.  Marvel Comics?

Hi BB....I loved reading yours.....I know how alike we think!!  He LOVES saying HE was responsible for getting JS off the case.....I was reading his comments and nearly fell off the chair laughing.........now he says there are blog who write about nothing except him!  LOL

I have a message for him, but he won't allow any of my posts.............I told him it should NOT be about him............... WHAT ABOUT CAYLEE???????????  Now why would he not post that ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 02, 2010, 08:21:28 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/
Here’s to Aristarchy
May 1, 2010 · 135 Comments

thanks trim.....ole marinadebrain is basking in his GLORY.  He WILL NOT allow any of my posts to be published........... ::MonkeyDevil::

looks like he is trying for the BIG TIME ::MonkeyWink::

 Marinade Dave  // May 1, 2010 at 10:54 pm

katfish – I am still looking for the second interview. Yes, I’m used to it now, but I’ve never been camera shy. Yup, there was a magazine editor following me around that morning, but I am not really at liberty to say anything right now other than it was not People magazine.


Hi Sunny--I didn't see your comment before I posted mine. Marinade Dave is an idiot.  Imagine that!  A magazine editor! Sure, Dave.  Marvel Comics?

 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 02, 2010, 08:29:19 PM
http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/
Casey Anthony’s Body Language Undergoes A Dramatic Change In the Courtroom For The First Time In Two Years
May 1, 2010 - 11 Responses

Thank you, Trimm.

I waded through the article, because I tend to enjoy her messages.

I especially liked this part:

Quote
If a jury sees her stoic and mannequin like  the way she appeared today and she appears that way throughout the trial, the jury  will definitely see her as the cold blooded  calculating murderess  the prosecution will paint her to be.

But it is apparent that she has not been reading Scared Monkeys. Her writing is still error-ridden.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


LOL-Brandi-I scrutinized it too. lol   This one wasn't quite so painful to read as the last one, but dagnabit---why doesn't she care enough to send the very best ???  Where is the pride in her work? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 02, 2010, 08:33:42 PM
When I became aware of this motion my guess was because the was she was going to be seen by either psychologist or psychiatrist..... I still think that and it looks like RH kinda agrees with that...


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103541&page=4
Personally, I think he has a valid point as to any experts that were to visit her. With that said, the only relevant experts that would need to visit her would be experts in the field of psychology.
And she certainly needs to be seen by someone in the field of psychology, along with her mother  ::MonkeyWink::


Can you imagine the stress????   The poor psychiatrist/psychologist would need to be hospitalized !!     ::MonkeyJnBox::      And then there's George .....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 02, 2010, 08:40:09 PM
I just saw my neighbors toddler who'll be turning 3 in a cuple months. When I saw him last a few months ago he was getting out a word here and there and mostly yelling; now, he is definitely communicating verbally and is totally understandable--I was shocked at the difference. This made me think of poor little Caylee of course. Kids at that age seem to advance in verbal skills by leaps and bounds.
I believe the minute her child started to verbalize her thoughts, KC knew she had to to come up with a plan of action before her gig was up. It was only a matter of time before CA and GA heard that Caylee was spending the day at home after the grandparents were out of the house, and that there was no Zanny, and the rest of the inumerable lies would come to light. KC couldn't keep drugging Caylee indefinitely, because that too was bound to become apparent eventually. So she had to think of something, anything: maybe she could find on the Internet something in the house that could be used to get rid of Caylee, that could be deemed an accident, maybe stage a kidnapping like on OneTreeHill, SOMETHING! Then came the fight with Cindy on Father's Day. Caution went out the window and KC gave her temper full reign. She already had it semi-planned, so might as well act now. So she did.
For defense dupes that might say KC had no real motive to kill Caylee, that she could have just left her with her grandparents, they don't understand the pathological personality. KC's life was one big lie, and she would do anything to protect it. People were expendable, as long as KC's lies could remain intact, and life continue the way she wanted it. The only real thing in KC's life that made her feel worthwhile was her ability to hoodwink people. This is the same theme for countless people like her born (IMO) with this defective personality. This is the ONLY goal in their worthless lives.

SCATTY~ Agree with your excellent post.  I believe that you hit  it when you said "Kc's life was one big lie, and she would do anything to protect it................The only thing in KC's life that made her feel worthwile was her ability to hood wink people."

That was her strong suit, manipulating and using people. For a person like her, a toddler is impossible to use. Too young to bribe, too old to sedate to sleep for hours and hours, too immature to use as an ally in her schemes etc. Caylee was a problem and she was a rival. In fairy tales there can be only one princess

You both are SO correct - Caylee was telling CA things which she saw and CA was tearing into KC over it. One thing which I have not seen discussed, is................. if Caylee was being drugged with ANY type of drug, (zanex, chloroform, benedyrl, others) as those things start wearing off she would be a nervous wreck and cry a lot. She would have withdrawals because small children can't take a central nervous system depressants and not have them.  

Since CA was a home health care office worker the "drug" closet in that place would have been a treasure chest for KC to get her drugs for Caylee. There were many times that it talked about KC "stopping by" her mother's office.

Many elderly and very ill patients take liquid pain and other meds and the detail men (pharmaceutical salespersons) bring in cases of their drugs and put them in the "detail closet." All of them have things like oxycotin, zanex,liquid demerol, etc. Anyone who has ever worked in a Dr.'s office knows what I am talking about.

By the time LE checked the Anthony's medicine cabinets all of those "samples" would have been LONG GONE.....

Caylee's possible reaction to drugs wearing off reminds me of something removed from Caysee's room.  Anyone else remember????  There was a book about child-rearing with tantrum solutions underlined or highlighted.  Anyone else remember this???????  Maybe this was why.


I remember that---and I thought how strange, as from what we've seen, nobody in that family has control of their tempers, IMO.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 02, 2010, 08:52:35 PM
Deenie, I agree on so many levels to your post above.

First, George & Cindy never were responsible stand up adults themselves, their dysfunction undoubtedly had an impact on their children, not that it excuses Casey or Lee's actions as they became young adults.  Personally, I am far from a sympathizer in that vain, nor ever will be.  I hear those that see the vicious cycle & say "well, what do you expect" and "they dont know any different" and I beg to differ since our society has so many opportunities for individuals to see how decent, responsible people conduct themselves such as schools, church, sports, the world on constant 24/7 news cycles, etc. etc.  In my view if young adults of this generation are no better or worse than their parents then they are choosing to be so.   Even in infancy we ALL sense the difference from right or wrong, similar to a toddler sneaking in the kitchen knowing mommy said "No, you may not have a cookie before dinner" and yet that toddler waits for mommy to turn the corner and grabs the cookie only to hide it behind its back when mommy catches the snatch... baby knew it was wrong to take the cookie.

As some may recall early on in this case, I told everyone here at SM that the very first night Cindy appeared on national TV, instantaneously I said "My God, that woman is lying her face off & is the blonde version of (unfortunately) my mother.   Suffice it to say, while keeping my humility, I am NOTHING like my mother nor will I treat people like she has unprovoked nor am I prone to anti-social behavior as a result of her & my step-father's evilness.   That may sound harsh about a parent but trust me its book worthy true, sad to say.   Instead, it made me strive to rise above it & be a better person.   Did I do it totally alone, actually no my angel on earth "Auntie" and my dear Uncle gave me everything I needed by example along with other influences I noted along the way...I chose to follow in their footsteps instead.   Ya know what, I am FAR from alone in that thought process as there are millions of children that grew up in family turmoil that did not use it as an excuse to be F-ups themselves.

As far as employment is concerned & their perception, it is just another example of them blaming others for their actions as well as refusing to overcome adversity instead of wallowing in it.   What appears clear to most is that they are anticipating living off of blood money, but I hate to burst their bubble but they arent going to make enough even with the few bites they do get to live off of for the rest of their lives.   Yet another example of their foolishness.

If the Anthonys were wise long ago, they would have stayed out of the public eye & supported their monster privately or at least less combatively.   OMG, they cant claim ignorance witnessing how the majority of the public is not buying what Casey nor they have tried to put forward.  Why they took the position to attempt to change the public's view is beyond reason considering they knew something was terribly wrong the entire month Casey was stonewalling them...perfect example Cindy's 7/3 Myspace entry.  Instead with every hostile attempt they have defended her they revealed their lies & willingness to cover up what she did.   I will never get over how they have forsaken Caylee by supporting (in my view) her killer.  I suppose it is their right as parents to still support their daughter but that is not what the public is outraged over in the slightest. 

George & Cindy will never "get it."  You're right they feel entitled even in the midst of their bad acts, they judge others yet they've never done a self-evaluation, and I'm afraid never will.   Neither of them come remotely close to living a life that one would consider worthy of feeling "above" anyone, then again in general I dont feel that anyone has a right to take that pompous attitude.   We all have our positive attributes & flaws, with a few exceptions like the Anthonys...they have no positive attributes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 02, 2010, 08:55:17 PM
» Christine said: { May 1, 2010 - 12:05:09 }
In the first 18 months that Casey Anthony has been in jail
1) ABC paid $200,000 for media pictures directly to Casey Anthony
2) Depaul Lawyer Andrea Lyon raised $70,000 for her defense
3) One of her lawyers donated $70,000 cash to her personally
That’s $340,000
In that First 18 months the Defense had only taken 8 depos and been before the judge 20 times.
(between July 16 2008 and January 2010.
But in total between the 3 Defense Lawyers
Andrea Lyon has appeared on 20 national Media interviews
Linda Kenney-Badin has appeared on 45 national Media interviews
Jose Baez has appeared on 90 national Media interviews.
Jose Baez has appeared on the over 100 local and Florida Media networks.
255 media interviews by the defense team and now they claim their client indigent. All $340 thousand gone…. No defense witness list… no discovery filed by the defense in 18 months.
The Florida State Atty office has given 0 media interviews and has released 140,000 pages of discovery and a witness list of over 250 people.
The defense team fought and won that there be no gag order on this case. And the fact remains that only $111,000 out of that 340,000 was accounted for IN COURT during the indigent hearing.
So yes…. Pretrial publicity is a factor in the Casey Anthony murder case.
And when the Media pays a suspect in a murder $200,000 it is a likely possibility that the MEDIA and the Defense team are playing a nasty game with the Judicial System.http://www.thehinkymeter.com

I hope it is alright to bring this post from The Hinky Meter but it has some interesting things and a good comment also.





Oh yeah ... this is excellent.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 02, 2010, 08:55:34 PM
Cindy Anthony worked for Gentiva Health Services as an administrative nurse, a home healthcare company.   If memory serves, she worked in an office & did not have nursing care interaction with patients with much discussion as to whether she had access to medications (or samples from pharm reps).  I'd be curious for a more concrete answer on this from her co workers & from the horse's mouth.   It could be if the answer is unclear we might hear it during the civil trial in June....O boy! I cannot wait for that!   I fully expect that Cindy & George will make their depositions look like they were on valium, I think they will lose their composure as they always have, not to mention lie their faces off.

Capp...IF Cindy and George do lose the composure and/or lie about stuff...even though this is is a "civil" trial...wouldn't/couldn't they be up for some sort of judicial punishment; i.e., (according to what happens) obstruction of justice or lying under oath?  TIA



Yes, perjury & they are still not out of the woods for being charged with obstruction of justice (criminal case).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 02, 2010, 09:08:09 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/
Here’s to Aristarchy
May 1, 2010 · 135 Comments

Interesting, considering he ducked his head when Mason & Bozo shot him a look after court that day yet he speaks of cowards (I think its visible on a WFTV raw video).  Where is his scathing review of the defense....hmmm?  Casey is going to get a fair trial, more than she deserves & it doesnt matter one sip of marinade whether Dave exists or not....honestly he's gone off the rail!!  PS who stopped writing about the case, what a dolt!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 02, 2010, 09:29:30 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/
Here’s to Aristarchy
May 1, 2010 · 135 Comments

Good video ... didn't know he asked Baez why he [ Dave ] was singled out!! ... Loved the music.

What is " Aristarchy" ????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Babybear on May 02, 2010, 09:33:53 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/
Here’s to Aristarchy
May 1, 2010 · 135 Comments

thanks trim.....ole marinadebrain is basking in his GLORY.  He WILL NOT allow any of my posts to be published........... ::MonkeyDevil::

looks like he is trying for the BIG TIME ::MonkeyWink::

 Marinade Dave  // May 1, 2010 at 10:54 pm

katfish – I am still looking for the second interview. Yes, I’m used to it now, but I’ve never been camera shy. Yup, there was a magazine editor following me around that morning, but I am not really at liberty to say anything right now other than it was not People magazine.


Hi Sunny--I didn't see your comment before I posted mine. Marinade Dave is an idiot.  Imagine that!  A magazine editor! Sure, Dave.  Marvel Comics?

Hi BB....I loved reading yours.....I know how alike we think!!  He LOVES saying HE was responsible for getting JS off the case.....I was reading his comments and nearly fell off the chair laughing.........now he says there are blog who write about nothing except him!  LOL

I have a message for him, but he won't allow any of my posts.............I told him it should NOT be about him............... WHAT ABOUT CAYLEE???????????  Now why would he not post that ::MonkeyWink::

Because IT IS about him doncha know?  But his enormous ego will not allow criticism of any sort.

Yes, we do seem to think the same thoughts about a lot of things and a lot of people.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 02, 2010, 09:34:28 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/
Here’s to Aristarchy
May 1, 2010 · 135 Comments

thanks trim.....ole marinadebrain is basking in his GLORY.  He WILL NOT allow any of my posts to be published........... ::MonkeyDevil::

looks like he is trying for the BIG TIME ::MonkeyWink::

 Marinade Dave  // May 1, 2010 at 10:54 pm

katfish – I am still looking for the second interview. Yes, I’m used to it now, but I’ve never been camera shy. Yup, there was a magazine editor following me around that morning, but I am not really at liberty to say anything right now other than it was not People magazine.



I bet your posts were good.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Babybear on May 02, 2010, 09:36:30 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/
Here’s to Aristarchy
May 1, 2010 · 135 Comments

Good video ... didn't know he asked Baez why he [ Dave ] was singled out!! ... Loved the music.

What is " Aristarchy" ????

Hi Ono--I think "Aristarchy" is a Davism.  Maybe an aristocratic anarchist? That's an oxymoron and Dave is a plain moron.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 02, 2010, 09:37:34 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/
Here’s to Aristarchy
May 1, 2010 · 135 Comments

Hi Monkeys--Thanks for the link, Trim.

One can only wonder what "Aristarchy" means.  Does it mean Aristocracy?  Anarchy?
A couple of days ago I saw a link to a site that said "Wave" rather than "Waive."  I also think the marinade guy thinks a lot more of himself than most others do.  But there seems to be an epidemic of that surrounding this case.   Nice though for Dave to take the heat so Casey can be assured a fair trial.  What an ego. 

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Yeah--that was an amazing statement he made.    lol  ~~     Well ... as my 9th grade science teacher always used to say: "Every dog has his day."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 02, 2010, 09:39:47 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/
Here’s to Aristarchy
May 1, 2010 · 135 Comments

Good video ... didn't know he asked Baez why he [ Dave ] was singled out!! ... Loved the music.

What is " Aristarchy" ????

Hi Ono--I think "Aristarchy" is a Davism.  Maybe an aristocratic anarchist? That's an oxymoron and Dave is a plain moron.

You might be right---but then again, maybe he just can't spell aristocracy???  lol    ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on May 02, 2010, 09:53:24 PM
In my experience, working in POL's, narcotic meds. are never left as samples.
Depending on the narcotic category, many can't even be called into a pharmacy, one has to have a physical prescription.
Now a days, narcotics such Oxy, Roxi's, can't even be filled at Walmart, CVS, etc., because they no longer carry them.
When I need a script filled, I have to go out of my way, 4 exits on the Tpke. I make them last because they don't help me much, they keep me awake and make me itch. I just don't think there are narcotics laying around in a closet in a home health agency, so there's really no way that Casey  had access to narcotics when she visited Cindy at work as was previously suggested.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Babybear on May 02, 2010, 10:13:48 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/
Here’s to Aristarchy
May 1, 2010 · 135 Comments

Good video ... didn't know he asked Baez why he [ Dave ] was singled out!! ... Loved the music.

What is " Aristarchy" ????

Hi Ono--I think "Aristarchy" is a Davism.  Maybe an aristocratic anarchist? That's an oxymoron and Dave is a plain moron.

You might be right---but then again, maybe he just can't spell aristocracy???  lol    ::MonkeyJnBox::

Now there's a thought!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on May 02, 2010, 10:34:23 PM
It's so amazing how swollen his head has become.
He thinks he's a celebrity now. It wasn't People Magazine...Gimme a break!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 02, 2010, 11:10:21 PM
It's so amazing how swollen his head has become.
He thinks he's a celebrity now. It wasn't People Magazine...Gimme a break!

Nope, it was a new publication called ME


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 02, 2010, 11:14:04 PM
Deenie, I agree on so many levels to your post above.

First, George & Cindy never were responsible stand up adults themselves, their dysfunction undoubtedly had an impact on their children, not that it excuses Casey or Lee's actions as they became young adults.  Personally, I am far from a sympathizer in that vain, nor ever will be.  I hear those that see the vicious cycle & say "well, what do you expect" and "they dont know any different" and I beg to differ since our society has so many opportunities for individuals to see how decent, responsible people conduct themselves such as schools, church, sports, the world on constant 24/7 news cycles, etc. etc.  In my view if young adults of this generation are no better or worse than their parents then they are choosing to be so.   Even in infancy we ALL sense the difference from right or wrong, similar to a toddler sneaking in the kitchen knowing mommy said "No, you may not have a cookie before dinner" and yet that toddler waits for mommy to turn the corner and grabs the cookie only to hide it behind its back when mommy catches the snatch... baby knew it was wrong to take the cookie.

As some may recall early on in this case, I told everyone here at SM that the very first night Cindy appeared on national TV, instantaneously I said "My God, that woman is lying her face off & is the blonde version of (unfortunately) my mother.   Suffice it to say, while keeping my humility, I am NOTHING like my mother nor will I treat people like she has unprovoked nor am I prone to anti-social behavior as a result of her & my step-father's evilness.   That may sound harsh about a parent but trust me its book worthy true, sad to say.   Instead, it made me strive to rise above it & be a better person.   Did I do it totally alone, actually no my angel on earth "Auntie" and my dear Uncle gave me everything I needed by example along with other influences I noted along the way...I chose to follow in their footsteps instead.   Ya know what, I am FAR from alone in that thought process as there are millions of children that grew up in family turmoil that did not use it as an excuse to be F-ups themselves.

As far as employment is concerned & their perception, it is just another example of them blaming others for their actions as well as refusing to overcome adversity instead of wallowing in it.   What appears clear to most is that they are anticipating living off of blood money, but I hate to burst their bubble but they arent going to make enough even with the few bites they do get to live off of for the rest of their lives.   Yet another example of their foolishness.

If the Anthonys were wise long ago, they would have stayed out of the public eye & supported their monster privately or at least less combatively.   OMG, they cant claim ignorance witnessing how the majority of the public is not buying what Casey nor they have tried to put forward.  Why they took the position to attempt to change the public's view is beyond reason considering they knew something was terribly wrong the entire month Casey was stonewalling them...perfect example Cindy's 7/3 Myspace entry.  Instead with every hostile attempt they have defended her they revealed their lies & willingness to cover up what she did.   I will never get over how they have forsaken Caylee by supporting (in my view) her killer.  I suppose it is their right as parents to still support their daughter but that is not what the public is outraged over in the slightest. 

George & Cindy will never "get it."  You're right they feel entitled even in the midst of their bad acts, they judge others yet they've never done a self-evaluation, and I'm afraid never will.   Neither of them come remotely close to living a life that one would consider worthy of feeling "above" anyone, then again in general I dont feel that anyone has a right to take that pompous attitude.   We all have our positive attributes & flaws, with a few exceptions like the Anthonys...they have no positive attributes.
Cappy I am on the phone - or otherwise I would give you my response. I thank you for being so honest. I will respond. I am in the mix of my own ucky right now... what I can't control at this moment. My heart feels yours.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Blumonkey on May 02, 2010, 11:37:53 PM
In my experience, working in POL's, narcotic meds. are never left as samples.
Depending on the narcotic category, many can't even be called into a pharmacy, one has to have a physical prescription.
Now a days, narcotics such Oxy, Roxi's, can't even be filled at Walmart, CVS, etc., because they no longer carry them.
When I need a script filled, I have to go out of my way, 4 exits on the Tpke. I make them last because they don't help me much, they keep me awake and make me itch. I just don't think there are narcotics laying around in a closet in a home health agency, so there's really no way that Casey  had access to narcotics when she visited Cindy at work as was previously suggested.

I agree, Curly. No way will you find controlled drugs in a home health office. Some pharmacies do not carry them due to fear of robbery and they post this info for the public to see. Pharmaceutical reps no longer have access to controlled drug samples to leave for physicians as these drugs are now closely monitored. Cindy may have had controlled meds in her home but I am sure she did not obtain them from work.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Babybear on May 03, 2010, 12:08:22 AM
In my experience, working in POL's, narcotic meds. are never left as samples.
Depending on the narcotic category, many can't even be called into a pharmacy, one has to have a physical prescription.
Now a days, narcotics such Oxy, Roxi's, can't even be filled at Walmart, CVS, etc., because they no longer carry them.
When I need a script filled, I have to go out of my way, 4 exits on the Tpke. I make them last because they don't help me much, they keep me awake and make me itch. I just don't think there are narcotics laying around in a closet in a home health agency, so there's really no way that Casey  had access to narcotics when she visited Cindy at work as was previously suggested.

I agree, Curly. No way will you find controlled drugs in a home health office. Some pharmacies do not carry them due to fear of robbery and they post this info for the public to see. Pharmaceutical reps no longer have access to controlled drug samples to leave for physicians as these drugs are now closely monitored. Cindy may have had controlled meds in her home but I am sure she did not obtain them from work.

Hi, Blumonkey--I just love your kitty.

Curley, I have to admit that I don't know what a Roxy is.  I know what Oxycodein is because I've had it prescribed by my dentist when I was having some extensive dental work.  I don't know if it's the same thing as Oxycontin.  This is funny because my late husband was an Orthopedic Surgeon, but I never knew anything about what was in the office in the way of drugs, if any.  I rarely take pain medication because I don't like the groggy feeling it gives me and I can't imagine enjoying that feeling.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 03, 2010, 12:48:41 AM

You both are SO correct - Caylee was telling CA things which she saw and CA was tearing into KC over it. One thing which I have not seen discussed, is................. if Caylee was being drugged with ANY type of drug, (zanex, chloroform, benedyrl, others) as those things start wearing off she would be a nervous wreck and cry a lot. She would have withdrawals because small children can't take a central nervous system depressants and not have them.  

Since CA was a home health care office worker the "drug" closet in that place would have been a treasure chest for KC to get her drugs for Caylee. There were many times that it talked about KC "stopping by" her mother's office.

Many elderly and very ill patients take liquid pain and other meds and the detail men (pharmaceutical salespersons) bring in cases of their drugs and put them in the "detail closet." All of them have things like oxycotin, zanex,liquid demerol, etc. Anyone who has ever worked in a Dr.'s office knows what I am talking about.

By the time LE checked the Anthony's medicine cabinets all of those "samples" would have been LONG GONE.....

Very true, Turbo.  One thing I've wondered is about Caylee supposedly having 'tantrums' at times.  This didn't get much mention by the A's, IIRC.  If Casey had been giving Caylee some type of meds/drugs over a period of time that Caylee then became addicted to, to some degree.. would that have caused her to be irritable, one reason for having those supposed tantrums?  We've seen in so many pics of Caylee, the shadows under her eyes.  Would withdrawals between times it wasn't given to her have caused her to be tired, perhaps not being able to sleep easily without being medicated?   

Of all the pics we've seen of Caylee, the ones with deep shadows under both eyes haunts me the most.  I've always thought that with Cindy being an RN she would have (should have) noticed and been concerned about that. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 03, 2010, 12:54:44 AM
When I became aware of this motion my guess was because the was she was going to be seen by either psychologist or psychiatrist..... I still think that and it looks like RH kinda agrees with that...


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103541&page=4
Personally, I think he has a valid point as to any experts that were to visit her. With that said, the only relevant experts that would need to visit her would be experts in the field of psychology.
And she certainly needs to be seen by someone in the field of psychology, along with her mother  ::MonkeyWink::

IMO, Casey will need a whole team of experts in the field of psychology! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 01:41:17 AM
Deenie, take your time & take care of you please.   I hope everything will be okay on your end, I'll keep you in my prayers as a lay my head down for the night.  Sleep well monkeys & I'll cyas in the morning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 03, 2010, 01:42:01 AM
Capp don't leave yet. I have something to say to you :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 01:48:30 AM
O phew, I just caught that Deenie...Ill hang


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 03, 2010, 02:03:37 AM
I often think of Why we do what we do - within Caylee's cage.

We have to admit that We will not be the defining - of the outcome of Caylee's Justice.
We are not given a wage, nor a paycheck for all our countless hours of input. We are not the Judge nor jury of Casey.
I think Why at times .. Why are we subjecting ourselves to this puzzle with a million pieces. 

And then I go back to You and others here.  Its not about the pieces or the hours or the frustrations  - its not about Being Right or Wrong. Its not about being " smarter" "wiser" or anything of the sort.
Its all about Caylee.   And You Capp have been a gift of mindful Glue within Caylee's Cage since You signed into SM.  You came aboard just a few wks after I did on SM. I remember when you were first here on SM. Was end of July/Aug of 2008 within.
I thought in the beginning you were a whipper snapper with your thoughts - Not then did I understand your background or your integrity. 
I just wanted you to know that " Your Works and Efforts " are indeed noticed and appreciated.  I look to you for answers.
Your always straight up - and concise. 
Just like a shot of  Hot Cappuccino.
 :smt056 :smt049
 
 I thank you and respect you
http://www.youtube.com/v/eNdEu9s5qUU&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 03, 2010, 02:36:18 AM
I see this face

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/cayleecellphonelazarro-1-1.jpg)

and it makes my heart and mind churn.  This was never meant to be Caylee's life.
 
This is a photo of my Baby -same age within Months
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/KailaASH-1.jpg)

Every time I see my Daughter I think of Caylee - for many reasons. Even though my Daughter today is 19 - she is my precious baby and I would die for her - no question's asked.
I think of Caylee and she " All by herself " owns a piece of me. 

http://www.youtube.com/v/XTeHEWBJUfk&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 02:58:36 AM
I often think of Why we do what we do - within Caylee's cage.

We have to admit that We will not be the defining - of the outcome of Caylee's Justice.
We are not given a wage, nor a paycheck for all our countless hours of input. We are not the Judge nor jury of Casey.
I think Why at times .. Why are we subjecting ourselves to this puzzle with a million pieces. 

And then I go back to You and others here.  Its not about the pieces or the hours or the frustrations  - its not about Being Right or Wrong. Its not about being " smarter" "wiser" or anything of the sort.
Its all about Caylee.   And You Capp have been a gift of mindful Glue within Caylee's Cage since You signed into SM.  You came aboard just a few wks after I did on SM. I remember when you were first here on SM. Was end of July/Aug of 2008 within.
I thought in the beginning you were a whipper snapper with your thoughts - Not then did I understand your background or your integrity. 
I just wanted you to know that " Your Works and Efforts " are indeed noticed and appreciated.  I look to you for answers.
Your always straight up - and concise. 
Just like a shot of  Hot Cappuccino.
 :smt056 :smt049
 
 I thank you and respect you
http://www.youtube.com/v/eNdEu9s5qUU&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0




Awwws...I will attempt to type with moist eyes and a full heart.   Deenie, we are all crusaders for Caylee & victims but in the process we have been blessed with being amongst people we now call friends.   You my sweet friend equally have graced these pages with insight & a warm heart.   I cannot thank everyone individually or this post would be record breaking even for me  ::MonkeyWink:: but there isnt a day that goes by that I dont appreciate each and everyone of you.  You are so right, we all have something to contribute but what bonds us together even when we differ is that we all care & can bring our vast life experiences with us to help us understand & cope with these extremely tragic cases.     I had to chuckle when you noted my...hmm let's say spiritedness but I humbly admit it stems from a deep passion & at times anger when I see the same horror repeating all too often, hey Im a Jersey born little spitfire with a fiery Italian flare so I guess that oozes in my posts at times...on a good day my husband might even say you guys are fortunate that you're not hearing me versus reading & Cindy Anthony should count herself extremely lucky that I do not live in Orlando LOL

Before I get too sappy, I'll end by saying the feeling is mutual tenfold.   Thank you so very much for such beautiful words, I will treasure them.  Your family is most fortunate Deenie, because you are a true blue good soul, an angel on earth.

Monkey Huggs to everyone, cyas later this morning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 03, 2010, 03:06:48 AM
I often think of Why we do what we do - within Caylee's cage.

We have to admit that We will not be the defining - of the outcome of Caylee's Justice.
We are not given a wage, nor a paycheck for all our countless hours of input. We are not the Judge nor jury of Casey.
I think Why at times .. Why are we subjecting ourselves to this puzzle with a million pieces. 

And then I go back to You and others here.  Its not about the pieces or the hours or the frustrations  - its not about Being Right or Wrong. Its not about being " smarter" "wiser" or anything of the sort.
Its all about Caylee.   And You Capp have been a gift of mindful Glue within Caylee's Cage since You signed into SM.  You came aboard just a few wks after I did on SM. I remember when you were first here on SM. Was end of July/Aug of 2008 within.
I thought in the beginning you were a whipper snapper with your thoughts - Not then did I understand your background or your integrity. 
I just wanted you to know that " Your Works and Efforts " are indeed noticed and appreciated.  I look to you for answers.
Your always straight up - and concise. 
Just like a shot of  Hot Cappuccino.
 :smt056 :smt049
 
 I thank you and respect you
http://www.youtube.com/v/eNdEu9s5qUU&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0




Awwws...I will attempt to type with moist eyes and a full heart.   Deenie, we are all crusaders for Caylee & victims but in the process we have been blessed with being amongst people we now call friends.   You my sweet friend equally have graced these pages with insight & a warm heart.   I cannot thank everyone individually or this post would be record breaking even for me  ::MonkeyWink:: but there isnt a day that goes by that I dont appreciate each and everyone of you.  You are so right, we all have something to contribute but what bonds us together even when we differ is that we all care & can bring our vast life experiences with us to help us understand & cope with these extremely tragic cases.     I had to chuckle when you noted my...hmm let's say spiritedness but I humbly admit it stems from a deep passion & at times anger when I see the same horror repeating all too often, hey Im a Jersey born little spitfire with a fiery Italian flare so I guess that oozes in my posts at times...on a good day my husband might even say you guys are fortunate that you're not hearing me versus reading & Cindy Anthony should count herself extremely lucky that I do not live in Orlando LOL

Before I get too sappy, I'll end by saying the feeling is mutual tenfold.   Thank you so very much for such beautiful words, I will treasure them.  Your family is most fortunate Deenie, because you are a true blue good soul, an angel on earth.

Monkey Huggs to everyone, cyas later this morning.
If only you could have a one on one with Cindy  :smt040 Cappy :smt049


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Post by: Wyks on May 03, 2010, 03:08:40 AM

Yea, her mother needs a muzzle, straight jacket & Haledol, I doubt many would disagree with that....fo shur!   

All that girl needs it a jail cell to rot in for the rest of her life, but yes no doubt the defense will be sending in their hired hands to give an opposing view of the battery of tests she underwent when first incarcerated and continued visits while in jail (which are sealed).   I think it is important to remember that Casey does not have medical records that indicate any prior diagnoses, no record whatsoever of psychiatric care or mental health counseling of which I am sure her school records were already looked at.   A claim from Casey that she thought to seek help, does not a history make.  Her parents (mainly Cindy) emphatically denied that she had any mental health history (one example being Cindy Anthony's FBI interview).   The point being, the defense can try to put forward whatever they wish but if there is no record of it - it doesnt necessarily make it so.   I'm almost willing to bet that the psychiatrists that conducted tests & analyzed Casey will state that she is a narcissistic sociopath, maybe a prognosis of borderline personality disorder neither of which should make an impact with a jury on her guilt nor probably a consideration in sentencing.   While she may have an anti-social personality disorder, it makes little to no difference being that she knew the difference between right & wrong as well as went thru great lengths to conceal her actions.  IMHO, what will resonate with the jury more is that this is a very self-absorbed girl whom harbored jealousy & rage toward anyone that tried to stop her from doing what she wanted to do.  I do believe that it will be equally evident that Casey killed Caylee to spite her mother, the person she was most embattled with in life & held a relationship with Caylee that Casey despised.  If they are going with the abuse excuse, all they have are Casey's claims & what her friends may have repeated she told them....whoopie, that and a claim will just get her more jail nachos.  Additionally, her prior criminal history (conviction) and reported thefts (grandma, etc) will work against her as being a sympathetic lamb that may have killed because she was abused (keep in mind she picked an innocent defenseless baby as opposed to her abusers).  I'm also reminded that after a long drawn out defense by Leslie Abramson for the Menedez brothers even with the aid of a medical history she failed to get the Menedez Brothers acquitted while tried together (locked jury), in fact they were retried with separate trials (non televised) and they were both convicted of first degree murder as well as conspiracy to commit murder receiving life sentences, so the only thing they were spared was the death penalty.   The jury later reported that the abuse defense was not a factor in their deliberations but they collectively rejected the death penalty because neither brother had a felony record or a history of violence.

I agree with you, Capp, in re to all you've said above. 

Am thinking with Casey having no records of previous mental health care, that could be used in different ways, both for and/or against her. 

The defense could use 'no records' to point to the lack of appropriate care by adults in her life during the childhood/teenage years.  If Casey does (for example) receive any diagnosis during the trial from a psychologist doing testing on her etc, most if not all are likely to have roots in her early years.  I can see Casey & scream-team tossing the A's under the bus for *not* getting her into therapy at the first sign of problems way back. 

I am a retired LCSW and just someone who is online, not local, and in no way making any kind of official diagnosis, of course.  Just want to add that as a disclaimer of sorts for the posts that I make which include my impression of what Casey's diagnosis may be.   

My impression is that Casey is the daughter of a narcissistic borderline mother.  As a result of being raised by Cindy, am thinking that Casey psychologically barely survived her child/teen years.  I honestly would be interested in looking further up the generational tree to see why/how Cindy turned out the way she did.  Cindy and Casey seem to share many if not most of the narcissistic and borderline traits.  Casey lived that life with Cindy, picking up not so marvelous attitudes etc all along the way.  The apple didn't fall far from that tree.  IMO.

And in fact, I see Casey as being a malignant narcissistic borderline, worse even than Cindy. 
Malignant narcissism includes a sadistic element, creating, in essence, a sadistic psychopath.
(For further info below, I'll just add here that altho a psychopath has antisocial personality traits, that doesn't mean someone with antisocial personality is the same as being a psychopath.)   

I said that to say this.  I do think that Casey is a malignant narcissist, along with having borderline personality, and antisocial personality.  A person diagnosed with antisocial personality is also refered to as a sociopath.  IMO, Casey gets the double whammy, being a psychopath (malignant narcissism) and a sociopath (antisocial personality) at the same time.  IMO. 
 
Still and all tho, all of these personality disorders are rooted deeply in childhood.  From what I posted earlier, one can hopefully see how Casey likely became a malignant narcissistic borderline.  Thanks to mama, Casey learned her life lessons well.  Also deeply rooted in childhood are the beginnings of antisocial personality, which is conduct disorder.  A child by the age of 10 yo, showing signs of conduct disorder, *if left untreated*, typically becomes an adult with antisocial personality disorder. 

Of all we've seen and read on Casey, my impression is that she 'very likely' had conduct disorder and oppositional defiant disorder as a child/teen.  These two things very often go hand in hand, yet children can experience one without the other.  As defiant as Casey is today, am thinking she did experience both.  These type of problems in her childhood/teen years are hinted at by George, as well as by Cindy's mother and brother.   

So what does it all mean?  Means, IMO, that Casey will likely be diagnosed with being a psychopathic, sociopathic, borderline.  There is NO clinical therapy or treatment that will work for a psychopath, none.  Sometimes clinical therapy or treatment can benefit some sociopaths, as well as some borderlines, yet it's typically a long and hard process. 

Have posted all the above to say that since all the personality disorders are deeply rooted in childhood, I really do believe that the defense will attempt to blame everything on the A's evidently not having recognized the need (or been willing etc) to get Casey into therapy at the first sign of trouble.   Some of those problems likely would still have continued on into her adult life even WITH intense therapy with a skilled clinician.  However, there's a good chance that with that therapy, Casey would not have turned out to be quite as bad off as she seems.  I betcha the defense will run with this, with Casey having 'no records' of therapy to speak of.  If I were the defense, I probably would at the very least, try for it.   ::rhino::

Do I think that even if her scream-team tries it, will it affect the outcome of the trial??  Nope. 
Altho I do think that the A's *ought* to be held accountable for their seeming lack of action on Casey's behalf wayyyyyyyyyy the he77 back when it *might* have begun to help make a change in her future.  Too late now, for some of it.  Yet their feet need to be held to the fire as well, IMO.  And that's in addition to all the rest of the charges I feel the A's *ought* to be held accountable for.  The ought not, IMO, get away with doing nuttin.. absolutely nuttin.. for Casey, including allowing what she had become to be alone one tiny second with precious Caylee.  IMO. 


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Post by: Wyks on May 03, 2010, 03:09:23 AM
Wow that got long!!!  I'm so sorry.   ::monkeywine2::



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Post by: Deenie on May 03, 2010, 03:14:49 AM
Wow that got long!!!  I'm so sorry.   ::monkeywine2::


Wkys no sorry - Your a Monkey. We roll 24/7 - this is our " sanity zone" SM

 ::dogwag::


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Post by: Wyks on May 03, 2010, 03:18:19 AM
Wow that got long!!!  I'm so sorry.   ::monkeywine2::


Wkys no sorry - Your a Monkey. We roll 24/7 - this is our " sanity zone" SM

 ::dogwag::

Thanks Deenie!  And yes, our 'sanity zone', thank goodness for SM!   ::piggy::



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Post by: Deenie on May 03, 2010, 03:26:33 AM
Wow that got long!!!  I'm so sorry.   ::monkeywine2::


I think we are all at the point - that this is soon coming to a " Answer" even if it is a year away - its coming and its " unknown" no promises no rude awakening no nothing - Its a wide open ??
and its frustrating and emotional.
We are all feeling it Wyks .. its been a grand slam in the last days ~ with no Ball in sight and NO one to catch it. No worries "your not alone" It is felt by all - this feeling of  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 03, 2010, 04:14:57 AM
I have to add to thoughts of " Why" someone becomes Casey as Casey ...... gag
If it was truly based upon environment " her childhood" her upbringing - that it was her reasons to become  a cold calculated teen, thief, no conscience what so ever, nothing can stop me, I can call my out my Father and Mother - say whatever comes out of my 4 letter mouth - for years on end. I have no recognizance. MY Payback to them is " I will NOT graduate from High School - ( I sure showed them) .. DAMN I am good * Casey. 

That is not behavior of " One who gets Life "  in the first place. If one " gets it" ( not growing up in Beaver Cleaver house)  they will survive anything within their environment with options of escape. It becomes a Job to do whatever it takes to leave and GROW and MOVE AWAY and separate themselves as they are able to - They won't stay and continue to stir and sit in the fire.  Kid's can't handle that sh*t - if they are mindful and have their head square - Priority is Self Preservation and being Self sufficient - No matter how long it takes-  Getting OUT is fought for and made.  Elder teens do not sit and stir within - NO. I know because I was that kid.  I did everything in my power to work jobs - gain money, bank it - I had 2 part-time jobs in 11th grade -  I was never home. I went to High School crack ass Dawn and worked till Dark - sometimes after 2 am on Fri/Sat nights.  Why ? because I had to. For Me. 
That is what Casey has never had EVER in her life - She has never felt within herself " That Fight" to Fight for her Own Self. She has no Identity - She has no sense of Self. As self centered and selfish she appears - She would not recognize her SELF if it stared her Eye to Eye in a mirror. She has created this " Beautiful Life Lie" of being Six years old the Prize of MOM and DAD ~ yet wants to be free wielding stealing them blind, running wild without any rules of society " Shut the F up MOM/DAD ... That is not environment - that is Casey her jacked up sense of Self. She is not a HOPE Sykes. She has conditioned her own self through the years with everyone. She masquerades and flip switches like a Chameleon. Where ever she is ..even if its out of her comfort zone - She will " Fit" in.

Mental Illness  No, Family upbringing No, Do I believe some ppl are born evil - yes. 

 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 03, 2010, 05:15:28 AM
Charles Manson " himself" has never been truly diagnosed " Mentally Ill" yet had a childhood  " No one would want to repeat" ..
 Charles on file: http://serialkillers666.tripod.com/id15.html
Another site that offers up HOW they became - http://mondovista.com/sociopathx.html
They being: The Virginia Tech Shooter, Charles Manson and Jeffrey Dahmer 
Snipped: Psychiatrists tell us that these people are different from the rest of us. They are called sociopaths, or antisocial personalities.  The American Psychiatric Association defines a sociopath as follows:
    Antisocial personality disorder is characterized by a lack of regard for the moral or legal standards in the local culture. There is a marked inability to get along with others or abide by societal rules. Individuals with this disorder are sometimes called psychopaths or sociopaths.

 You don't say, slapping myself  ... sounds like Casey Anthony.
more from the following site:

1. Since the age of fifteen there has been a disregard for and violation of the right's of others, those right's considered normal by the local culture, as indicated by at least three of the following:

    * A. Repeated acts that could lead to arrest.
    * B. Conning for pleasure or profit, repeated lying, or the use of aliases.
    * C. Failure to plan ahead or being impulsive.
    * D. Repeated assaults on others.
    * E. Reckless when it comes to their or others safety.
    * F. Poor work behavior or failure to honor financial obligations.
    * G. Rationalizing the pain they inflict on others.

Not too shabby of an article ..  Draws my attention again to one thought
" Evil" no remorse, no sense of action or acknowledgment.
I wonder how many of Casey's " Pets" actually died of natural causes - the ones she laid to rest .. in the woods. That would be to me questions to ask within the trial. Kiomarie is witness - she is the one who said " Casey would bury her pets " with the same process each time " in the woods. How many Pets did she have that Died in such a short time -that it was a Known process by Kiomarie - how Casey buried them ?
That's disturbing all within itself - sigh and ughh .. no words.

I still believe she is as plain as day - Evil. She truly is not that dimensional -
People who are Evil have no friends - They/Evil survive off of reactions of their actions trying to get closer to those they can manipulate - the  ones who remember and got away "The Innocent " - they will always have that moment of time stuck in their brain ~ it may be a feeling, it may be an emotion, It may be a slighted memory ...when though its thought of or triggered - Not a good scene. Forever it is within. Scary, buried, Mixed. Yet all is targeted back to One source - One being. Casey could be just that to many " unknown" from her upbringing in Ohio or school age ... prior to High School.  All I think is - She is not mentally ill nor challanged due to her upbringing. 

She is notorious yes for being herself, and she Loves it all the same - that is definition: Evil. 


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Post by: Tevye on May 03, 2010, 07:27:37 AM
Wow that got long!!!  I'm so sorry.   ::monkeywine2::


Well, sometimes in order to be truly insightful, one has to expound. Your post was just long enough to be truly insightful...and very informative. Thanks!


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 03, 2010, 07:30:50 AM
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2010m5d2-Casey-Anthony-latest-news-Trial-for-mom-accused-of-murder-may-last-7-weeks-jury-may-be-sequestered
Casey Anthony latest news: Trial for mom accused of murder may last 7 weeks, jury may be sequestered
May 2, 4:12 PMCrime ExaminerCindy Adams


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 03, 2010, 07:32:59 AM
http://crime.about.com/b/2010/05/03/casey-anthony-trial-could-last-7-weeks.htm
Casey Anthony Trial Could Last 7 Weeks
Monday May 3, 2010
The jury eventually chosen to hear the murder case against Casey Anthony may be sequestered for up to seven weeks, according to the new judge assigned to the case. Judge Belvin Perry also said the start of the trial for the murder of 2-year-old Caylee Anthony will not be delayed from its scheduled May 9, 2011 date.

Judge Perry recently replaced Judge Stan Strickland, who recused himself at the request of Anthony's defense attorneys.

Judge Perry is still considering the defense request to move the trial outside of the Orlando area, but he said potential jurors should expect to be sequestered for four to seven weeks. Perry said he was not convinced that moving the trial to a different venue would make any difference in terms of pre-trial publicity.

Judge Perry took over the Anthony case after Judge Strickland granted a defense motion asking that he recuse himself. The defense said that comments Strickland made to a blogger displayed prejudiced against Casey Anthony.
Judge, Attorney Step Down

Denying any wrongdoing, Strickland decided to step down because the defense "likely would allege bias" each time he made a ruling in the case.

Meanwhile, one of Anthony's defense attorneys also removed himself from the case after being accused of misappropriating $145,000 of client funds in California. Todd Mancuso told the Florida court that he was on "involuntary inactive status" and has entered an alternative discipline program in California.

Mancuso was accused of mishandling trust accounts and misusing client funds. He blamed the mistakes on his staff members and said he was distracted at the time by his brother's death.

Casey Anthony is still being represented by Jose Baez, Cheney Mason and two other out-of-state attorneys.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 03, 2010, 08:49:34 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
05/06/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Justice Commission Budget Hearing


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 03, 2010, 08:55:55 AM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/
NBC Today Show
May 2, 2010 · 68 Comments         :roll:


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Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 03, 2010, 09:49:46 AM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/
NBC Today Show
May 2, 2010 · 68 Comments         :roll:

GMAFB and STFU were my 1st thoughts when I read your post trimm.......oh and ZIP IT!!!!!!

I read this statement of MD's in a recent article posted on his blog....it proves he THINKS this case is all about him!

"I got a phone call from a TRUE friend earlier today. She wanted to know how I handle the few blogs that are so overtly tormented by my existence that they have forgotten what this is all about. Easy, I said. The more preoccupied they are with me, the less time they spend thinking about and discussing the victim, Caylee, and the defendant, Casey, not to mention George and Cindy."


This is about CAYLEE, marinadebrain, NOT YOU!!!!!

MD needs professional help......IMO

I apologize Klaas, I refuse to post the link to his blog.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 03, 2010, 10:53:01 AM
» Christine said: { May 1, 2010 - 12:05:09 }
In the first 18 months that Casey Anthony has been in jail
1) ABC paid $200,000 for media pictures directly to Casey Anthony
2) Depaul Lawyer Andrea Lyon raised $70,000 for her defense
3) One of her lawyers donated $70,000 cash to her personally
That’s $340,000
In that First 18 months the Defense had only taken 8 depos and been before the judge 20 times.
(between July 16 2008 and January 2010.
But in total between the 3 Defense Lawyers
Andrea Lyon has appeared on 20 national Media interviews
Linda Kenney-Badin has appeared on 45 national Media interviews
Jose Baez has appeared on 90 national Media interviews.
Jose Baez has appeared on the over 100 local and Florida Media networks.
255 media interviews by the defense team and now they claim their client indigent. All $340 thousand gone…. No defense witness list… no discovery filed by the defense in 18 months.
The Florida State Atty office has given 0 media interviews and has released 140,000 pages of discovery and a witness list of over 250 people.
The defense team fought and won that there be no gag order on this case. And the fact remains that only $111,000 out of that 340,000 was accounted for IN COURT during the indigent hearing.
So yes…. Pretrial publicity is a factor in the Casey Anthony murder case.
And when the Media pays a suspect in a murder $200,000 it is a likely possibility that the MEDIA and the Defense team are playing a nasty game with the Judicial System.http://www.thehinkymeter.com

I hope it is alright to bring this post from The Hinky Meter but it has some interesting things and a good comment also.


Morning Monks and thanks mizjay for bringing this over....interesting statistics!


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 03, 2010, 11:10:27 AM
http://www.examiner.com/x-23328-True-Crime-Examiner~y2010m5d1-C
Casey Anthony 2.0: a new judge to save--or wave--her life?
May 1, 11:20 AMTrue Crime ExaminerIvy Bigbee


http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony Jail Visitation-Last Look?
Sunday May 2,2010


thanks trim...... ::MonkeyKiss2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 03, 2010, 11:26:25 AM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/
NBC Today Show
May 2, 2010 · 68 Comments         :roll:

GMAFB and STFU were my 1st thoughts when I read your post trimm.......oh and ZIP IT!!!!!!

I read this statement of MD's in a recent article posted on his blog....it proves he THINKS this case is all about him!

"I got a phone call from a TRUE friend earlier today. She wanted to know how I handle the few blogs that are so overtly tormented by my existence that they have forgotten what this is all about. Easy, I said. The more preoccupied they are with me, the less time they spend thinking about and discussing the victim, Caylee, and the defendant, Casey, not to mention George and Cindy."


This is about CAYLEE, marinadebrain, NOT YOU!!!!!

MD needs professional help......IMO

I apologize Klaas, I refuse to post the link to his blog.


 ::MonkeyJnBox::  seeme, I understand your refusal!   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 03, 2010, 11:36:03 AM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/
NBC Today Show
May 2, 2010 · 68 Comments         :roll:

GMAFB and STFU were my 1st thoughts when I read your post trimm.......oh and ZIP IT!!!!!!

I read this statement of MD's in a recent article posted on his blog....it proves he THINKS this case is all about him!

"I got a phone call from a TRUE friend earlier today. She wanted to know how I handle the few blogs that are so overtly tormented by my existence that they have forgotten what this is all about. Easy, I said. The more preoccupied they are with me, the less time they spend thinking about and discussing the victim, Caylee, and the defendant, Casey, not to mention George and Cindy."


This is about CAYLEE, marinadebrain, NOT YOU!!!!!

MD needs professional help......IMO

I apologize Klaas, I refuse to post the link to his blog.


 ::MonkeyJnBox::  seeme, I understand your refusal!   ::MonkeyKiss::

It is beyond belief how ignorant this guy is.I told hubby this morning I wasn't going to read anymore of this chit.
Seeme,I am with you.This is one link I will not link anymore.   ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 03, 2010, 11:52:33 AM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/
NBC Today Show
May 2, 2010 · 68 Comments         :roll:

GMAFB and STFU were my 1st thoughts when I read your post trimm.......oh and ZIP IT!!!!!!

I read this statement of MD's in a recent article posted on his blog....it proves he THINKS this case is all about him!

"I got a phone call from a TRUE friend earlier today. She wanted to know how I handle the few blogs that are so overtly tormented by my existence that they have forgotten what this is all about. Easy, I said. The more preoccupied they are with me, the less time they spend thinking about and discussing the victim, Caylee, and the defendant, Casey, not to mention George and Cindy."


This is about CAYLEE, marinadebrain, NOT YOU!!!!!

MD needs professional help......IMO

I apologize Klaas, I refuse to post the link to his blog.


 ::MonkeyJnBox::  seeme, I understand your refusal!   ::MonkeyKiss::

It is beyond belief how ignorant this guy is.I told hubby this morning I wasn't going to read anymore of this chit.
Seeme,I am with you.This is one link I will not link anymore.   ::HelloKitty::

Yep to all of you !      There's no way to discuss the "victim, Caylee" without discussing how she became a victim and who caused her to die. He's so bassackwards and irritating that I personally don't know how anyone reads his blog. His 15 minutes of fame should have been up about 2 weeks ago but unfortunately it's not and in his marinaded, over saturated brain he will always be a celebrity. I wish he'd just take his hankie and run home to mama and daddy...oh, yeah, I forgot he already has. (sorry, just couldn't hold it back)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 03, 2010, 12:28:39 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/
NBC Today Show
May 2, 2010 · 68 Comments         :roll:

GMAFB and STFU were my 1st thoughts when I read your post trimm.......oh and ZIP IT!!!!!!

I read this statement of MD's in a recent article posted on his blog....it proves he THINKS this case is all about him!

"I got a phone call from a TRUE friend earlier today. She wanted to know how I handle the few blogs that are so overtly tormented by my existence that they have forgotten what this is all about. Easy, I said. The more preoccupied they are with me, the less time they spend thinking about and discussing the victim, Caylee, and the defendant, Casey, not to mention George and Cindy."


This is about CAYLEE, marinadebrain, NOT YOU!!!!!

MD needs professional help......IMO

I apologize Klaas, I refuse to post the link to his blog.


 ::MonkeyJnBox::  seeme, I understand your refusal!   ::MonkeyKiss::

It is beyond belief how ignorant this guy is.I told hubby this morning I wasn't going to read anymore of this chit.
Seeme,I am with you.This is one link I will not link anymore.   ::HelloKitty::

Yep to all of you !      There's no way to discuss the "victim, Caylee" without discussing how she became a victim and who caused her to die. He's so bassackwards and irritating that I personally don't know how anyone reads his blog. His 15 minutes of fame should have been up about 2 weeks ago but unfortunately it's not and in his marinaded, over saturated brain he will always be a celebrity. I wish he'd just take his hankie and run home to mama and daddy...oh, yeah, I forgot he already has. (sorry, just couldn't hold it back)

LOL.....and I am sending you a big YEP too.....

this is a portion of one of his comments......

The problem with the people on those simplistic blogs that gave up on Caylee and focus on me is that they keep saying they have less respect for me now. Well, those hollow shells of human waste never liked me to begin with. How do their insults change anything? One just came and threatened me again. This one is going to AOL.

first of all who does He think gave up on Caylee EXCEPT HIM...it is not and never has been about Caylee............it has always been a bout him...Caylee was just a vessel for him to sail to his imaginary glory on........GET OVER IT!!

and who in the hell gets supposed death threats and doesnt' report them to the police?  perhaps some who has just enough smarts to know not to make a false police report. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 12:39:47 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/
NBC Today Show
May 2, 2010 · 68 Comments         :roll:

GMAFB and STFU were my 1st thoughts when I read your post trimm.......oh and ZIP IT!!!!!!

I read this statement of MD's in a recent article posted on his blog....it proves he THINKS this case is all about him!

"I got a phone call from a TRUE friend earlier today. She wanted to know how I handle the few blogs that are so overtly tormented by my existence that they have forgotten what this is all about. Easy, I said. The more preoccupied they are with me, the less time they spend thinking about and discussing the victim, Caylee, and the defendant, Casey, not to mention George and Cindy."


This is about CAYLEE, marinadebrain, NOT YOU!!!!!

MD needs professional help......IMO

I apologize Klaas, I refuse to post the link to his blog.


What you said with a message to Dave from me:   I guess we now know why he was kissing up to the Anthonys & Jim all along, for his  "It’s only a 2-minute segment and I’m mentioned briefly, but it’s something."    Yes, Dave you are indeed a minute man!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 03, 2010, 01:48:39 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
Civil Case Docket
05-04-2010 Pre-Trial Civil (1:30 PM)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 03, 2010, 01:50:27 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
Civil Case Docket
05-04-2010 Pre-Trial Civil (1:30 PM)
Tomorrow?  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on May 03, 2010, 01:52:02 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/
NBC Today Show
May 2, 2010 · 68 Comments         :roll:
I will never ever read at his site again, he makes me sick.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 03, 2010, 02:03:53 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
Civil Case Docket
05-04-2010 Pre-Trial Civil (1:30 PM)
Tomorrow?  ::MonkeyTongue::

Should be interesting. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 03, 2010, 02:06:20 PM
AH HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/36538052/04292010-Motion-To-Seal-Jail-Visiting-Log-Records


WHEREFORE, the Defendant prays this Court enter its Order directing the administration of the Orange County Jail to ensure the confidentiality of all records of whatever description including, but not limited to, sign-in logs regarding contact or visits from any persons with the Defendant herein.

We may have been looking at this incorrectly or not in it's entirity.......I thought a lot about this and ran this by my attorney friend, who agrees that my thoughts are certainly a good reason for them wants to get things sealed/not released.... I was thinking perhaps this motion is to get around the release of the visitation videos. The State had no position on this because THEY will know who is visiting.........So,  who would the DUHFENCE NOT WANT KNOWN WAS VISITING?  the A's? Just a thought because the motion makes no sense to me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 03, 2010, 02:07:20 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
Civil Case Docket
05-04-2010 Pre-Trial Civil (1:30 PM)

Thanks trim, has anyone heard anything about coverage for it??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 03, 2010, 02:10:59 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
Civil Case Docket
05-04-2010 Pre-Trial Civil (1:30 PM)

Thanks trim, has anyone heard anything about coverage for it??

I hope so.Here is some more stuff.
05/03/2010 Order Setting Motion Hearings
05/03/2010 Order Regarding Deposition Schedule
05/06/2010 Hearing (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR) Justice Commission Budget Hearing
05/10/2010 Hearing (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR) Motions
05/11/2010 Hearing (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR) Pending Motions on Death Penalty


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 03, 2010, 02:14:34 PM
Thanks Sunny.   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 03, 2010, 02:17:18 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-deposition-schedule-20100503,0,3415724.story
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Judge sets tough new schedule for attorneys
 By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel

1:23 p.m. EDT, May 3, 2010
The judge in the Casey Anthony murder case has set a new deadline for attorneys.

He is giving them two-and-a-half weeks to file a detailed deposition schedule.

That's a huge undertaking. It means that by May 17, attorneys must contact more than 50 witnesses and schedule them for sessions during which they'll be questioned – sometimes very sharply - under oath about the case.

Anthony, 24, is charged with murdering her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Marie, in 2008. The state is seeking the death penalty.

The order is from Chief Circuit Judge Belvin Perry Jr., who took charge of the case two weeks ago.

He signed it Friday. It is another signal that he intends to move the case forward aggressively.

At a hearing Friday, Assistant State Attorney Linda Drane Burdick told the judge that the state has listed 250 witnesses. She predicted that defense attorneys would want to depose about 90.

Defense attorney Jose Baez said they had finished only 36.

That leaves more than 50 yet to do.

At the hearing, and in Friday's order, the judge said he'd help attorneys with uncooperative witnesses by issuing orders, requiring them to come to court or be held in contempt. He also said he'd use deputies to haul them in, if need be.

In another order Friday, the judge spelled out the start times of a series of hearings this and next week.
On Thursday, he'll hold a hearing about defense public spending in the case.

In March, Circuit Judge Stan Strickland, the judge handling the case at the time, concluded that Anthony is now indigent, and, thus, the public should cover her defense costs, minus attorney fees.

Thursday's hearing could be the first time defense attorneys disclose just how much money they expect to spend.

They will talk about what experts they've hired, how much they charge per hour and how many hours they're expected to work. There'll also be talk about other expenses, such as travel.

Next week, on Monday and Tuesday, Perry will listen to attorneys argue a variety of motions.

On Monday, that will include a defense request that the case by tried by jurors from another county; an attack on physical evidence gathered by the state; whether jurors should be allowed to view party photos of Anthony and whether they should hear allegations of domestic violence against the former county employee who discovered the victim's body.

Tuesday will be dedicated to defense motions attacking Florida's death penalty.

Hearings both days start at 9 a.m.

Rene Stutzman can be reached at rstutzman@orlandosentinel.com or 407-650-6394.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 03, 2010, 02:18:50 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
Civil Case Docket
05-04-2010 Pre-Trial Civil (1:30 PM)

Thanks trim, has anyone heard anything about coverage for it??

I hope so.Here is some more stuff.
05/03/2010 Order Setting Motion Hearings
05/03/2010 Order Regarding Deposition Schedule
05/06/2010 Hearing (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR) Justice Commission Budget Hearing
05/10/2010 Hearing (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR) Motions
05/11/2010 Hearing (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR) Pending Motions on Death Penalty
Thanks, 6:00 am my time, oh well will miss part of it, but will catch up here  ::MonkeyCool::  I'm really more interested at this point in time with the pre trial hearing on the civil case, now that is going to be something  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 03, 2010, 02:21:03 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/23434501/detail.html
Judge Orders Hearings In Casey Anthony Case
Posted: 1:10 pm EDT May 3, 2010Updated: 1:26 pm EDT May 3, 2010
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- WFTV obtained two orders from Judge Belvin Perry Monday in the case against Casey Anthony. In one, he orders three more hearings (read it) and the other order is regarding a deposition schedule (read it).

The first hearing that Judge Perry ordered is scheduled for May 6 at 9:00am, which will address the budget.
Hearing on Motion  http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23433990/detail.html
Deposition Schedule  http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23434131/detail.html
The second hearing is on May 10 at 9:00am. The court will hear any pending motions. The defense is ordered to provide the court with a list of motions identifying those that will require the presentation of witness testimony or other evidence.

A hearing is also scheduled on May 11 at 9:00am, where the court will hear any pending motions related to the death penalty.

In the order regarding the deposition schedule, both sides must submit a schedule by May 17 with names and addresses of witnesses to be deposed on each date.

Meanwhile, attorneys will return to court for a hearing in the civil case against Casey Anthony Tuesday on the defamation lawsuit filed by a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez. She claims her reputation was ruined when Casey said a babysitter named Zenaida Gonzalez took Caylee Anthony.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 03, 2010, 02:34:00 PM
AH HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/36538052/04292010-Motion-To-Seal-Jail-Visiting-Log-Records


WHEREFORE, the Defendant prays this Court enter its Order directing the administration of the Orange County Jail to ensure the confidentiality of all records of whatever description including, but not limited to, sign-in logs regarding contact or visits from any persons with the Defendant herein.

We may have been looking at this incorrectly or not in it's entirity.......I thought a lot about this and ran this by my attorney friend, who agrees that my thoughts are certainly a good reason for them wants to get things sealed/not released.... I was thinking perhaps this motion is to get around the release of the visitation videos. The State had no position on this because THEY will know who is visiting.........So,  who would the DUHFENCE NOT WANT KNOWN WAS VISITING?  the A's? Just a thought because the motion makes no sense to me.
Nothing they ask for is ever as clear as it should be. Now if it's the A's they don't want the public to see that only makes sense if they're certain that neither the A's or KC could keep it under control and not inadvertantly blurt things out or be obvious in trying to be sneaky and get stories straight or KC dissolving into  she-devil or whatever. But the prosecution could still see them, right? In fact it would bolster their incessant lovey babble fest that they all try to foist on the world that KC and parents just wuv each other to death.
If they're wanting to launch an entirely new slant to her defense, the mental one, and want to bring in various professionals to evaluate and help her manifest proper symptoms for a particular mental issue then that makes sense. With as many minds and ppl. ( in the public, like us ) able to figure what angle they're going to attempt to explain her "break with reality" actions then I can see why they're trying this. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 03, 2010, 02:36:47 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
Civil Case Docket
05-04-2010 Pre-Trial Civil (1:30 PM)

Thanks trim, has anyone heard anything about coverage for it??

I hope so.Here is some more stuff.
05/03/2010 Order Setting Motion Hearings
05/03/2010 Order Regarding Deposition Schedule
05/06/2010 Hearing (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR) Justice Commission Budget Hearing
05/10/2010 Hearing (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR) Motions
05/11/2010 Hearing (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR) Pending Motions on Death Penalty
Thanks, 6:00 am my time, oh well will miss part of it, but will catch up here  ::MonkeyCool::  I'm really more interested at this point in time with the pre trial hearing on the civil case, now that is going to be something  ::MonkeyEek::

I sure hope when the JAC hearing comes up that they send a person to court instead of that stupid skype. I can't hear that muddled mess and it seems like they can't either!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 03, 2010, 02:59:04 PM
AH HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/36538052/04292010-Motion-To-Seal-Jail-Visiting-Log-Records


WHEREFORE, the Defendant prays this Court enter its Order directing the administration of the Orange County Jail to ensure the confidentiality of all records of whatever description including, but not limited to, sign-in logs regarding contact or visits from any persons with the Defendant herein.

We may have been looking at this incorrectly or not in it's entirety.......I thought a lot about this and ran this by my attorney friend, who agrees that my thoughts are certainly a good reason for them wants to get things sealed/not released.... I was thinking perhaps this motion is to get around the release of the visitation videos. The State had no position on this because THEY will know who is visiting.........So,  who would the DUHFENCE NOT WANT KNOWN WAS VISITING?  the A's? Just a thought because the motion makes no sense to me.
Nothing they ask for is ever as clear as it should be. Now if it's the A's they don't want the public to see that only makes sense if they're certain that neither the A's or KC could keep it under control and not inadvertently blurt things out or be obvious in trying to be sneaky and get stories straight or KC dissolving into  she-devil or whatever. But the prosecution could still see them, right? In fact it would bolster their incessant lovey babble fest that they all try to foist on the world that KC and parents just wuv each other to death.
If they're wanting to launch an entirely new slant to her defense, the mental one, and want to bring in various professionals to evaluate and help her manifest proper symptoms for a particular mental issue then that makes sense. With as many minds and ppl. ( in the public, like us ) able to figure what angle they're going to attempt to explain her "break with reality" actions then I can see why they're trying this. 

or the A's have been enlisted to try to get her to take a plea deal? and they don't want that known to the general public......

or.....they need to keep throwing out chit to keep the general public interested in this case because they love/need/crave the publicity.....BOZO thinks this case is going to make him the most famous Hispanic attorney in history and Mason wants this to be his last big hurrah!!  After all his last big client Nelson Serrano was sentenced to die in 07


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 03, 2010, 03:06:38 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx
Civil Case Docket
05-04-2010 Pre-Trial Civil (1:30 PM)

Thanks trim, has anyone heard anything about coverage for it??

I hope so.Here is some more stuff.
05/03/2010 Order Setting Motion Hearings
05/03/2010 Order Regarding Deposition Schedule
05/06/2010 Hearing (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR) Justice Commission Budget Hearing
05/10/2010 Hearing (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR) Motions
05/11/2010 Hearing (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR) Pending Motions on Death Penalty
Thanks, 6:00 am my time, oh well will miss part of it, but will catch up here  ::MonkeyCool::  I'm really more interested at this point in time with the pre trial hearing on the civil case, now that is going to be something  ::MonkeyEek::

I sure hope when the JAC hearing comes up that they send a person to court instead of that stupid skype. I can't hear that muddled mess and it seems like they can't either!

me too..........that sucked!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on May 03, 2010, 03:29:35 PM
AH HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/36538052/04292010-Motion-To-Seal-Jail-Visiting-Log-Records


WHEREFORE, the Defendant prays this Court enter its Order directing the administration of the Orange County Jail to ensure the confidentiality of all records of whatever description including, but not limited to, sign-in logs regarding contact or visits from any persons with the Defendant herein.

We may have been looking at this incorrectly or not in it's entirity.......I thought a lot about this and ran this by my attorney friend, who agrees that my thoughts are certainly a good reason for them wants to get things sealed/not released.... I was thinking perhaps this motion is to get around the release of the visitation videos. The State had no position on this because THEY will know who is visiting.........So,  who would the DUHFENCE NOT WANT KNOWN WAS VISITING?  the A's? Just a thought because the motion makes no sense to me.
Nothing they ask for is ever as clear as it should be. Now if it's the A's they don't want the public to see that only makes sense if they're certain that neither the A's or KC could keep it under control and not inadvertantly blurt things out or be obvious in trying to be sneaky and get stories straight or KC dissolving into  she-devil or whatever. But the prosecution could still see them, right? In fact it would bolster their incessant lovey babble fest that they all try to foist on the world that KC and parents just wuv each other to death.
If they're wanting to launch an entirely new slant to her defense, the mental one, and want to bring in various professionals to evaluate and help her manifest proper symptoms for a particular mental issue then that makes sense. With as many minds and ppl. ( in the public, like us ) able to figure what angle they're going to attempt to explain her "break with reality" actions then I can see why they're trying this. 

They want to hide something, just not sure what it is yet.
It is expected that she will be examined by all kinds of Psych people, there's no secret in that- probably a Sexual abuse specialist too,  but we wouldn't expect otherwise. What defense strategy would they be divulging by our knowing that  Pschologists, Psychiatrists and Neurologists were visiting..... ? Big deal.
They are just trying to circumvent the Sunshine Laws again, we have the right to this information and I hope the Judge will not give in to them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 03:33:17 PM
AH HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/36538052/04292010-Motion-To-Seal-Jail-Visiting-Log-Records


WHEREFORE, the Defendant prays this Court enter its Order directing the administration of the Orange County Jail to ensure the confidentiality of all records of whatever description including, but not limited to, sign-in logs regarding contact or visits from any persons with the Defendant herein.

We may have been looking at this incorrectly or not in it's entirety.......I thought a lot about this and ran this by my attorney friend, who agrees that my thoughts are certainly a good reason for them wants to get things sealed/not released.... I was thinking perhaps this motion is to get around the release of the visitation videos. The State had no position on this because THEY will know who is visiting.........So,  who would the DUHFENCE NOT WANT KNOWN WAS VISITING?  the A's? Just a thought because the motion makes no sense to me.
Nothing they ask for is ever as clear as it should be. Now if it's the A's they don't want the public to see that only makes sense if they're certain that neither the A's or KC could keep it under control and not inadvertently blurt things out or be obvious in trying to be sneaky and get stories straight or KC dissolving into  she-devil or whatever. But the prosecution could still see them, right? In fact it would bolster their incessant lovey babble fest that they all try to foist on the world that KC and parents just wuv each other to death.
If they're wanting to launch an entirely new slant to her defense, the mental one, and want to bring in various professionals to evaluate and help her manifest proper symptoms for a particular mental issue then that makes sense. With as many minds and ppl. ( in the public, like us ) able to figure what angle they're going to attempt to explain her "break with reality" actions then I can see why they're trying this. 

or the A's have been enlisted to try to get her to take a plea deal? and they don't want that known to the general public......

or.....they need to keep throwing out chit to keep the general public interested in this case because they love/need/crave the publicity.....BOZO thinks this case is going to make him the most famous Hispanic attorney in history and Mason wants this to be his last big hurrah!!  After all his last big client Nelson Serrano was sentenced to die in 07

It is doubtful the defense will succeed with something this broad, nor do I think that CJBP will reverse a previous order (appeal concerns) i.e. the Anthonys previous request.   Generally, judges will not make exception to change jail standard operating procedures, especially concerning security & monitoring for one defendant, regardless wide coverage of the case.   If anything they may be granted that professionals that may testify for the defense on their evaluations & expertise will be sealed, but yes the prosecution will receive same under the rules of discovery.

I doubt the defense is attempting to use the Anthonys to get Casey to plea.   I do not see Cindy caving to encourage her monster to serve 25 or more years in jail for something she insists she didn't do, this family is fighting because they got caught & they don't want to face the shame of being judicially found guilty of murder, conspiracy after the fact nor have it affirmed that this family are the lowest form of life.     However, the defense may be hoping for a confrontation regarding Casey's accusations of molestation & abuse because they have nothing that indicates her claim is yet not another lie or it could be that they are merely trying to demonstrate that Casey's family still supports her & believes in her innocence, yea right.   It is my firm believe that the State will never agree to take a plea of less than 25 years to life, if anything at all.   There are a few reasons why I take that position, not the least of which the recent estimation of time the prosecution feels they need in an expected penalty phase is telling...they are confident.

They undoubtedly will launch a diminished capacity defense but at this point IMHO they can only use this in penalty phase because Casey has insisted on her innocence & this should have been done long before now.   Her family insisted infatically that she did not have mental health history, her defense never even approached it beyond Lenamons's what if's & put forward that she was innocent.    Not a sole will believe her new stories because she told too many lies already, it will be transparent that after 2 years she is now admitting culpability no matter the reason to avoid the ultimate punishment, in other words she is guilty & knows she will be convicted of felony murder.   If she attempts to admit that she made up the nanny, regrets fingering others as possible suspects she is admitting that she concealed what she did to avoid having to face the consequence, in my view as soon as the prosecution would get wind of that change in strategy they will know to definitely take this case to trial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 03:34:48 PM
AH HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/36538052/04292010-Motion-To-Seal-Jail-Visiting-Log-Records


WHEREFORE, the Defendant prays this Court enter its Order directing the administration of the Orange County Jail to ensure the confidentiality of all records of whatever description including, but not limited to, sign-in logs regarding contact or visits from any persons with the Defendant herein.

We may have been looking at this incorrectly or not in it's entirety.......I thought a lot about this and ran this by my attorney friend, who agrees that my thoughts are certainly a good reason for them wants to get things sealed/not released.... I was thinking perhaps this motion is to get around the release of the visitation videos. The State had no position on this because THEY will know who is visiting.........So,  who would the DUHFENCE NOT WANT KNOWN WAS VISITING?  the A's? Just a thought because the motion makes no sense to me.
Nothing they ask for is ever as clear as it should be. Now if it's the A's they don't want the public to see that only makes sense if they're certain that neither the A's or KC could keep it under control and not inadvertently blurt things out or be obvious in trying to be sneaky and get stories straight or KC dissolving into  she-devil or whatever. But the prosecution could still see them, right? In fact it would bolster their incessant lovey babble fest that they all try to foist on the world that KC and parents just wuv each other to death.
If they're wanting to launch an entirely new slant to her defense, the mental one, and want to bring in various professionals to evaluate and help her manifest proper symptoms for a particular mental issue then that makes sense. With as many minds and ppl. ( in the public, like us ) able to figure what angle they're going to attempt to explain her "break with reality" actions then I can see why they're trying this. 

or the A's have been enlisted to try to get her to take a plea deal? and they don't want that known to the general public......

or.....they need to keep throwing out chit to keep the general public interested in this case because they love/need/crave the publicity.....BOZO thinks this case is going to make him the most famous Hispanic attorney in history and Mason wants this to be his last big hurrah!!  After all his last big client Nelson Serrano was sentenced to die in 07

It is doubtful the defense will succeed with something this broad, nor do I think that CJBP will reverse a previous order (appeal concerns) i.e. the Anthonys previous request.   Generally, judges will not make exception to change jail standard operating procedures, especially concerning security & monitoring for one defendant, regardless wide coverage of the case.   If anything they may be granted that professionals that may testify for the defense on their evaluations & expertise will be sealed, but yes the prosecution will receive same under the rules of discovery.

I doubt the defense is attempting to use the Anthonys to get Casey to plea.   I do not see Cindy caving to encourage her monster to serve 25 or more years in jail for something she insists she didn't do, this family is fighting because they got caught & they don't want to face the shame of being judicially found guilty of murder, conspiracy after the fact nor have it affirmed that this family are the lowest form of life.     However, the defense may be hoping for a confrontation regarding Casey's accusations of molestation & abuse because they have nothing that indicates her claim is yet not another lie or it could be that they are merely trying to demonstrate that Casey's family still supports her & believes in her innocence, yea right.   It is my firm believe that the State will never agree to take a plea of less than 25 years to life, if anything at all.   There are a few reasons why I take that position, not the least of which the recent estimation of time the prosecution feels they need in an expected penalty phase is telling...they are confident.

They undoubtedly will launch a diminished capacity defense but at this point IMHO they can only use this in penalty phase because Casey has insisted on her innocence & this should have been done long before now.   Her family insisted emphatically  that she did not have mental health history, her defense never even approached it beyond Lenamons's what if's & put forward that she was innocent.    Not a sole will believe her new stories because she told too many lies already, it will be transparent that after 2 years she is now admitting culpability no matter the reason to avoid the ultimate punishment, in other words she is guilty & knows she will be convicted of felony murder.   If she attempts to admit that she made up the nanny, regrets fingering others as possible suspects she is admitting that she concealed what she did to avoid having to face the consequence, in my view as soon as the prosecution would get wind of that change in strategy they will know to definitely take this case to trial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 03, 2010, 03:54:19 PM
Sometimes some things and some people are so predictable ::MonkeyDevil::

One thing for sure.....nothing is predictable in this case except the DUHfence is predictable!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 03:55:36 PM
Wyks, I just wanted to let you know that I did read your post & we are on the same wave length pretty much in total.    Deenie, "kindred spirit" comes to mind  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 03, 2010, 03:57:07 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/5/3/three_hearings_scheduled_in_anthony_case.html
 Three Hearings Scheduled In Anthony Case
Monday, May 03, 2010 3:27:34 PM
ORLANDO -- The new judge in the Casey Anthony case is not wasting time moving the case along.

Judge Belvin Perry has scheduled three hearings over the next week.

The first one is scheduled for Friday. In that hearing, Perry wants to go over the budget. Since Anthony was declared indigent, and the state is picking up the tab, the judge wants to make sure the expert witnesses won't bust the budget.

The second hearing is scheduled for next Monday. Judge Perry wants to hear about any pending motions that he will be asked to consider.

The third hearing is set for the next day, May 11, to hear motions regarding the death penalty.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 03, 2010, 04:00:33 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-deposition-schedule-20100503,0,3415724.story
Judge sets tough new schedule for attorneys
 By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel

3:20 p.m. EDT, May 3, 2010
The judge in the Casey Anthony murder case has set a new deadline for attorneys.

He is giving them two-and-a-half weeks to file a detailed deposition schedule.

That's a huge undertaking. It means that by May 17, attorneys must contact more than 50 witnesses and schedule them for sessions during which they'll be questioned – sometimes very sharply - under oath about the case.

Anthony, 24, is charged with murdering her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Marie, in 2008. The state is seeking the death penalty.

The order is from Chief Circuit Judge Belvin Perry Jr., who took charge of the case two weeks ago.

He signed it Friday. It is another signal that he intends to move the case forward aggressively.

At a hearing Friday, Assistant State Attorney Linda Drane Burdick told the judge that the state has listed 250 witnesses. She predicted that defense attorneys would want to depose about 90.

Defense attorney Jose Baez said they had finished only 36.

That leaves more than 50 yet to do.

At the hearing, and in Friday's order, the judge said he'd help attorneys with uncooperative witnesses by issuing orders, requiring them to come to court or be held in contempt. He also said he'd use deputies to haul them in, if need be.

There's a hearing Tuesday afternoon in another Casey Anthony case, a lawsuit by a woman who says Anthony told lies that damaged her reputation.

Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez is seeking unspecified damages, saying she was harmed when Anthony told authorities that Caylee disappeared after she left the child with a babysitter named Zenaida. After investiigating that claim and many others,
prosecutors charged Anthony with murder, and the child's body was found several months later in a patch of woods not far from Anthony's home.

Tuesday, that case is set for a routine pretrial conference before Circuit Judge Jose Rodriguez.

Events in the murder case against her, though, have begun to move more rapidly. Perry, the judge in that case, has scheduled hearings this week and next.

On Thursday, Perry will hold a hearing about defense public spending in the case.

In March, Circuit Judge Stan Strickland, the judge handling the case at the time, concluded that Anthony is now indigent, and, thus, the public should cover her defense costs, minus attorney fees.

Thursday's hearing could be the first time defense attorneys disclose just how much money they expect to spend.

They will talk about what experts they've hired, how much they charge per hour and how many hours they're expected to work. There'll also be talk about other expenses, such as travel.

Next week, on Monday and Tuesday, Perry will listen to attorneys argue a variety of motions.

On Monday, that will include a defense request that the case by tried by jurors from another county; an attack on physical evidence gathered by the state; whether jurors should be allowed to view party photos of Anthony and whether they should hear allegations of domestic violence against the former county employee who discovered the victim's body.

Tuesday, May 11, will be dedicated to defense motions attacking Florida's death penalty.

Hearings both days start at 9 a.m.

Rene Stutzman can be reached at rstutzman@orlandosentinel.com or 407-650-6394.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 04:06:06 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/5/3/three_hearings_scheduled_in_anthony_case.html
 Three Hearings Scheduled In Anthony Case
Monday, May 03, 2010 3:27:34 PM
ORLANDO -- The new judge in the Casey Anthony case is not wasting time moving the case along.

Judge Belvin Perry has scheduled three hearings over the next week.

The first one is scheduled for Friday. In that hearing, Perry wants to go over the budget. Since Anthony was declared indigent, and the state is picking up the tab, the judge wants to make sure the expert witnesses won't bust the budget.

The second hearing is scheduled for next Monday. Judge Perry wants to hear about any pending motions that he will be asked to consider.

The third hearing is set for the next day, May 11, to hear motions regarding the death penalty.

Wait, the 6th is Thursday not Friday..   ::MonkeyHaHa:: The date is fresh in my mind because I'm leaving for New Jersey to attend my daughter's college graduation on Mother's Day the 9th...a joyous occasion & short visit back to my home state after a very difficult few weeks!   I'm hoping to catch at least part of the 6th before I leave, Monday I'll be in travel back to MS so I might have to catch that hearing via video later & up in the morning for Tuesday's.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 03, 2010, 04:06:20 PM
AH HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/36538052/04292010-Motion-To-Seal-Jail-Visiting-Log-Records


WHEREFORE, the Defendant prays this Court enter its Order directing the administration of the Orange County Jail to ensure the confidentiality of all records of whatever description including, but not limited to, sign-in logs regarding contact or visits from any persons with the Defendant herein.

We may have been looking at this incorrectly or not in it's entirety.......I thought a lot about this and ran this by my attorney friend, who agrees that my thoughts are certainly a good reason for them wants to get things sealed/not released.... I was thinking perhaps this motion is to get around the release of the visitation videos. The State had no position on this because THEY will know who is visiting.........So,  who would the DUHFENCE NOT WANT KNOWN WAS VISITING?  the A's? Just a thought because the motion makes no sense to me.
Nothing they ask for is ever as clear as it should be. Now if it's the A's they don't want the public to see that only makes sense if they're certain that neither the A's or KC could keep it under control and not inadvertently blurt things out or be obvious in trying to be sneaky and get stories straight or KC dissolving into  she-devil or whatever. But the prosecution could still see them, right? In fact it would bolster their incessant lovey babble fest that they all try to foist on the world that KC and parents just wuv each other to death.
If they're wanting to launch an entirely new slant to her defense, the mental one, and want to bring in various professionals to evaluate and help her manifest proper symptoms for a particular mental issue then that makes sense. With as many minds and ppl. ( in the public, like us ) able to figure what angle they're going to attempt to explain her "break with reality" actions then I can see why they're trying this. 

or the A's have been enlisted to try to get her to take a plea deal? and they don't want that known to the general public......

or.....they need to keep throwing out chit to keep the general public interested in this case because they love/need/crave the publicity.....BOZO thinks this case is going to make him the most famous Hispanic attorney in history and Mason wants this to be his last big hurrah!!  After all his last big client Nelson Serrano was sentenced to die in 07
So smart!  ANY of the above and throw in extreme paranoia about their psycho client being revealed as the kook that she is and them trying every trick in the book to not get caught trying to drag this out for as long as possible and not at least trying to do right by her and pleading out if they could. (How's that for a run on sentence?)
Think of her fraud case, Bozo took every chance to declare his client's desire for trial. He was going to fight this injustice , blah, blah. In the end, last second, he folded, hadn't done a damn thing. Sneaky lil loser


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 03, 2010, 04:09:42 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/5/3/three_hearings_scheduled_in_anthony_case.html
 Three Hearings Scheduled In Anthony Case
Monday, May 03, 2010 3:27:34 PM
ORLANDO -- The new judge in the Casey Anthony case is not wasting time moving the case along.

Judge Belvin Perry has scheduled three hearings over the next week.

The first one is scheduled for Friday. In that hearing, Perry wants to go over the budget. Since Anthony was declared indigent, and the state is picking up the tab, the judge wants to make sure the expert witnesses won't bust the budget.

The second hearing is scheduled for next Monday. Judge Perry wants to hear about any pending motions that he will be asked to consider.

The third hearing is set for the next day, May 11, to hear motions regarding the death penalty.

I sure like how Judge Perry has taken the bull (a little pun shot at the defense by me) by the horns and is wasting no time by getting this ball rolling.

Just another reason I am impressed by Perry.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 04:14:15 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/5/3/three_hearings_scheduled_in_anthony_case.html
 Three Hearings Scheduled In Anthony Case
Monday, May 03, 2010 3:27:34 PM
ORLANDO -- The new judge in the Casey Anthony case is not wasting time moving the case along.

Judge Belvin Perry has scheduled three hearings over the next week.

The first one is scheduled for Friday. In that hearing, Perry wants to go over the budget. Since Anthony was declared indigent, and the state is picking up the tab, the judge wants to make sure the expert witnesses won't bust the budget.

The second hearing is scheduled for next Monday. Judge Perry wants to hear about any pending motions that he will be asked to consider.

The third hearing is set for the next day, May 11, to hear motions regarding the death penalty.

I sure like how Judge Perry has taken the bull (a little pun shot at the defense by me) by the horns and is wasting no time by getting this ball rolling.

Just another reason I am impressed by Perry.

Clever  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 03, 2010, 04:14:16 PM
Didn't want to quote stack but re: Caps last response.  If they could begin a campaign bolstered by some quacks on their payroll who VISIT with her and conjure up some obscure mental health syndrome that would encompass her lying, her 'memory block' of a traumatic accident, toss in sexual and mental abuse and present it at last minute as a terrible accident...???  They can't really do it without enlisting her help. She would have to be taught what the new "real" story is, do ya think?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 03, 2010, 04:22:27 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-deposition-schedule-20100503,0,3415724.story
Judge sets tough new schedule for attorneys
 By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel

3:20 p.m. EDT, May 3, 2010
The judge in the Casey Anthony murder case has set a new deadline for attorneys.

He is giving them two-and-a-half weeks to file a detailed deposition schedule.

That's a huge undertaking. It means that by May 17, attorneys must contact more than 50 witnesses and schedule them for sessions during which they'll be questioned – sometimes very sharply - under oath about the case.

Anthony, 24, is charged with murdering her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Marie, in 2008. The state is seeking the death penalty.

The order is from Chief Circuit Judge Belvin Perry Jr., who took charge of the case two weeks ago.

He signed it Friday. It is another signal that he intends to move the case forward aggressively.

At a hearing Friday, Assistant State Attorney Linda Drane Burdick told the judge that the state has listed 250 witnesses. She predicted that defense attorneys would want to depose about 90.

Defense attorney Jose Baez said they had finished only 36.

That leaves more than 50 yet to do.

At the hearing, and in Friday's order, the judge said he'd help attorneys with uncooperative witnesses by issuing orders, requiring them to come to court or be held in contempt. He also said he'd use deputies to haul them in, if need be.

There's a hearing Tuesday afternoon in another Casey Anthony case, a lawsuit by a woman who says Anthony told lies that damaged her reputation.

Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez is seeking unspecified damages, saying she was harmed when Anthony told authorities that Caylee disappeared after she left the child with a babysitter named Zenaida. After investiigating that claim and many others,
prosecutors charged Anthony with murder, and the child's body was found several months later in a patch of woods not far from Anthony's home.

Tuesday, that case is set for a routine pretrial conference before Circuit Judge Jose Rodriguez.

Events in the murder case against her, though, have begun to move more rapidly. Perry, the judge in that case, has scheduled hearings this week and next.

On Thursday, Perry will hold a hearing about defense public spending in the case.

In March, Circuit Judge Stan Strickland, the judge handling the case at the time, concluded that Anthony is now indigent, and, thus, the public should cover her defense costs, minus attorney fees.

Thursday's hearing could be the first time defense attorneys disclose just how much money they expect to spend.

They will talk about what experts they've hired, how much they charge per hour and how many hours they're expected to work. There'll also be talk about other expenses, such as travel.

Next week, on Monday and Tuesday, Perry will listen to attorneys argue a variety of motions.

On Monday, that will include a defense request that the case by tried by jurors from another county; an attack on physical evidence gathered by the state; whether jurors should be allowed to view party photos of Anthony and whether they should hear allegations of domestic violence against the former county employee who discovered the victim's body.

Tuesday, May 11, will be dedicated to defense motions attacking Florida's death penalty.

Hearings both days start at 9 a.m.

Rene Stutzman can be reached at rstutzman@orlandosentinel.com or 407-650-6394.

The hearing re: the death penalty are IMO going to be extremely interesting since it has been reported that JP is a proponent of the DP.


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/orange_news/042010new-anthony-judge-seen-as-no-nonsense-jurist

New Anthony judge seen as no-nonsense jurist

Updated: Tuesday, 20 Apr 2010, 8:03 PM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 20 Apr 2010, 7:48 PM EDT

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Orange-Osceola Chief Judge Belvin Perry, Jr. can pick and choose what cases he will preside over. On Tuesday, he had nothing on his docket, but a judicial assistant said he was declining to comment on a case he has only had for less than 24 hours.

Circuit Judge Stan Strickland on Monday granted a motion filed last week by Casey Anthony's attorneys , asking that he recuse himself. As a result of Judge Strickland's recusal, Chief Judge Perry has taken over the case.

Anthony's defense attorneys had argued that comments the judge made to a blogger recently showed he was prejudiced against Anthony. Judge Strickland denied doing anything wrong, but said he removed himself from the case because Anthony's attorneys likely would allege bias each time he ruled against their motions.

Florida A&M University Law School Dean Leroy Pernell said he believes Chief Judge Perry will likely set a status hearing and bring the prosecutors and the defense teams to court to see where things stand.

"What are the issues, what are the priority issues and work out a manner for addressing those," said Pernell.

Chief Judge Perry is somewhat familiar with the case, having presided over the Grand Jury which indicted Casey Anthony on first degree murder charges in October or 2008.

He has heard testimony from six of the State's key witnesses, including a lab technician with the Federal Bureau of Investigations, a computer specialist, lead investigators and every Casey's father, George.

Also on Chief Judge Perry's docket is Jason Rodriguez, the man accused of opening fire at the Gateway Center in Downtown Orlando last fall.

Chief Judge Perry is a proponent of the death penalty. There are at least three men on death row right now, all sentenced in Perry's courtroom.

Prominent Orlando attorney Mark NeJame once represented Casey's parents. He now represents Texas Equusearch, the group which coordinated volunteer search efforts for little Caylee Anthony in the weeks following her disappearance.

NeJame said this is a bad move for the defense.

"I think that Judge Strickland, a wonderful judge and a brilliant jurist, allowed them latitude," said and I think that Judge Perry will be very strict according to guidelines and won't put up with any nonsense"



# Motion to Declare Florida Statute 921-141 Unconstitutional
# Motion to Preclude the State's Impermissible Gender Biased Request for Imposition of the Death Penalty
# Second Motion to Preclude Death Procedures for Impermissible Prosecutorial Motives
# Defendant's Motion for Protective Order with Respect to Penalty Phase Discovery

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/19/judge_strickland_removes_self_from_casey_case.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 03, 2010, 04:28:04 PM
Should be very interesting to see who argues all these motions. If Bozo stands up to do it I'll  do one of those yeeha rebel yells . That would make my day.   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 03, 2010, 04:29:12 PM
AH HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/36538052/04292010-Motion-To-Seal-Jail-Visiting-Log-Records


WHEREFORE, the Defendant prays this Court enter its Order directing the administration of the Orange County Jail to ensure the confidentiality of all records of whatever description including, but not limited to, sign-in logs regarding contact or visits from any persons with the Defendant herein.

We may have been looking at this incorrectly or not in it's entirety.......I thought a lot about this and ran this by my attorney friend, who agrees that my thoughts are certainly a good reason for them wants to get things sealed/not released.... I was thinking perhaps this motion is to get around the release of the visitation videos. The State had no position on this because THEY will know who is visiting.........So,  who would the DUHFENCE NOT WANT KNOWN WAS VISITING?  the A's? Just a thought because the motion makes no sense to me.
Nothing they ask for is ever as clear as it should be. Now if it's the A's they don't want the public to see that only makes sense if they're certain that neither the A's or KC could keep it under control and not inadvertently blurt things out or be obvious in trying to be sneaky and get stories straight or KC dissolving into  she-devil or whatever. But the prosecution could still see them, right? In fact it would bolster their incessant lovey babble fest that they all try to foist on the world that KC and parents just wuv each other to death.
If they're wanting to launch an entirely new slant to her defense, the mental one, and want to bring in various professionals to evaluate and help her manifest proper symptoms for a particular mental issue then that makes sense. With as many minds and ppl. ( in the public, like us ) able to figure what angle they're going to attempt to explain her "break with reality" actions then I can see why they're trying this. 

or the A's have been enlisted to try to get her to take a plea deal? and they don't want that known to the general public......

or.....they need to keep throwing out chit to keep the general public interested in this case because they love/need/crave the publicity.....BOZO thinks this case is going to make him the most famous Hispanic attorney in history and Mason wants this to be his last big hurrah!!  After all his last big client Nelson Serrano was sentenced to die in 07
So smart!  ANY of the above and throw in extreme paranoia about their psycho client being revealed as the kook that she is and them trying every trick in the book to not get caught trying to drag this out for as long as possible and not at least trying to do right by her and pleading out if they could. (How's that for a run on sentence?)
Think of her fraud case, Bozo took every chance to declare his client's desire for trial. He was going to fight this injustice , blah, blah. In the end, last second, he folded, hadn't done a damn thing. Sneaky lil loser

 ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 03, 2010, 04:33:24 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/5/3/three_hearings_scheduled_in_anthony_case.html
 Three Hearings Scheduled In Anthony Case
Monday, May 03, 2010 3:27:34 PM
ORLANDO -- The new judge in the Casey Anthony case is not wasting time moving the case along.

Judge Belvin Perry has scheduled three hearings over the next week.

The first one is scheduled for Friday. In that hearing, Perry wants to go over the budget. Since Anthony was declared indigent, and the state is picking up the tab, the judge wants to make sure the expert witnesses won't bust the budget.

The second hearing is scheduled for next Monday. Judge Perry wants to hear about any pending motions that he will be asked to consider.

The third hearing is set for the next day, May 11, to hear motions regarding the death penalty.

I sure like how Judge Perry has taken the bull (a little pun shot at the defense by me) by the horns and is wasting no time by getting this ball rolling.

Just another reason I am impressed by Perry.

I like him too Brandi.It is so nice to see real movement in this case.   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 03, 2010, 04:54:07 PM
Should be very interesting to see who argues all these motions. If Bozo stands up to do it I'll  do one of those yeeha rebel yells . That would make my day.   ::MonkeyGavel::

I would be yelling with you ::CowboySmiley:: ::CowboySmiley::

............even though he is technically lead attorney he would not be able to argue those motion.....hells bells he can't  intelligently argue any motion...............again JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 03, 2010, 04:55:06 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/5/3/three_hearings_scheduled_in_anthony_case.html
 Three Hearings Scheduled In Anthony Case
Monday, May 03, 2010 3:27:34 PM
ORLANDO -- The new judge in the Casey Anthony case is not wasting time moving the case along.

Judge Belvin Perry has scheduled three hearings over the next week.

The first one is scheduled for Friday. In that hearing, Perry wants to go over the budget. Since Anthony was declared indigent, and the state is picking up the tab, the judge wants to make sure the expert witnesses won't bust the budget.

The second hearing is scheduled for next Monday. Judge Perry wants to hear about any pending motions that he will be asked to consider.

The third hearing is set for the next day, May 11, to hear motions regarding the death penalty.

I sure like how Judge Perry has taken the bull (a little pun shot at the defense by me) by the horns and is wasting no time by getting this ball rolling.

Just another reason I am impressed by Perry.

I like him too Brandi.It is so nice to see real movement in this case.   ::MonkeyGavel::


AMEN Sistahs!!~!~


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 03, 2010, 04:55:18 PM
I sure hope we get to see the pre trial hearing in the civil case tomorrow, don't even care if it is live, will take a tape of it later in the day  ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Babybear on May 03, 2010, 04:59:39 PM
Hi Monkeys---

I understand Baez et al wanting to keep private the names of any visitors which Casey might have concerning her defense. I have questioned in my mind the propriety of releasing information to the public concerning when her lawyers visit, for how long, etc. However, any visit which is required by law to be taped (excluding those with her defense professionals) should be released to the public in compliance with FL Sunshine Laws.  I think that trying to keep visits of a personal nature private,  i.e. with Casey's parents, her brother, etc. is another example of the Anthonys demanding special privileges (And often getting them)  and I see no reason for it.

IMO Cindy and George Anthony should have been charged for some of their actions in tampering with evidence, interefering with an investigation and lying to LE.  I think that the Statute of Limitations has probably run out for some of the possible charges.
But when the police officer told Lois (I don't know her last name) that "Haven't the Anthonys been through enough?" that told the tale and has been the attitude of LE throughout this entire case. For reasons I don't understand and which I will never probably understand, the Anthonys are coated with Teflon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Babybear on May 03, 2010, 05:10:03 PM
AH HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/36538052/04292010-Motion-To-Seal-Jail-Visiting-Log-Records


WHEREFORE, the Defendant prays this Court enter its Order directing the administration of the Orange County Jail to ensure the confidentiality of all records of whatever description including, but not limited to, sign-in logs regarding contact or visits from any persons with the Defendant herein.

We may have been looking at this incorrectly or not in it's entirety.......I thought a lot about this and ran this by my attorney friend, who agrees that my thoughts are certainly a good reason for them wants to get things sealed/not released.... I was thinking perhaps this motion is to get around the release of the visitation videos. The State had no position on this because THEY will know who is visiting.........So,  who would the DUHFENCE NOT WANT KNOWN WAS VISITING?  the A's? Just a thought because the motion makes no sense to me.
Nothing they ask for is ever as clear as it should be. Now if it's the A's they don't want the public to see that only makes sense if they're certain that neither the A's or KC could keep it under control and not inadvertently blurt things out or be obvious in trying to be sneaky and get stories straight or KC dissolving into  she-devil or whatever. But the prosecution could still see them, right? In fact it would bolster their incessant lovey babble fest that they all try to foist on the world that KC and parents just wuv each other to death.
If they're wanting to launch an entirely new slant to her defense, the mental one, and want to bring in various professionals to evaluate and help her manifest proper symptoms for a particular mental issue then that makes sense. With as many minds and ppl. ( in the public, like us ) able to figure what angle they're going to attempt to explain her "break with reality" actions then I can see why they're trying this. 

or the A's have been enlisted to try to get her to take a plea deal? and they don't want that known to the general public......

or.....they need to keep throwing out chit to keep the general public interested in this case because they love/need/crave the publicity.....BOZO thinks this case is going to make him the most famous Hispanic attorney in history and Mason wants this to be his last big hurrah!!  After all his last big client Nelson Serrano was sentenced to die in 07
So smart!  ANY of the above and throw in extreme paranoia about their psycho client being revealed as the kook that she is and them trying every trick in the book to not get caught trying to drag this out for as long as possible and not at least trying to do right by her and pleading out if they could. (How's that for a run on sentence?)
Think of her fraud case, Bozo took every chance to declare his client's desire for trial. He was going to fight this injustice , blah, blah. In the end, last second, he folded, hadn't done a damn thing. Sneaky lil loser

 ::rhino:: ::rhino::

Hi Sunny---To call Baez a "Sneaky lil loser" is a beautiful thing. Music to my ears, or my eyes as it were.......... He looks like a mouse trying to steal some cheese.  All he needs is three long whiskers sticking out of each side of his chipmunk cheeks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 03, 2010, 05:12:47 PM
I sure hope we get to see the pre trial hearing in the civil case tomorrow, don't even care if it is live, will take a tape of it later in the day  ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

me too....but I hope it's LIVE....I am going to email RK and see if he knows


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 03, 2010, 05:22:06 PM
Hi Monkeys---

I understand Baez et al wanting to keep private the names of any visitors which Casey might have concerning her defense. I have questioned in my mind the propriety of releasing information to the public concerning when her lawyers visit, for how long, etc. However, any visit which is required by law to be taped (excluding those with her defense professionals) should be released to the public in compliance with FL Sunshine Laws.  I think that trying to keep visits of a personal nature private,  i.e. with Casey's parents, her brother, etc. is another example of the Anthonys demanding special privileges (And often getting them)  and I see no reason for it.

IMO Cindy and George Anthony should have been charged for some of their actions in tampering with evidence, interefering with an investigation and lying to LE.  I think that the Statute of Limitations has probably run out for some of the possible charges.
But when the police officer told Lois (I don't know her last name) that "Haven't the Anthonys been through enough?" that told the tale and has been the attitude of LE throughout this entire case. For reasons I don't understand and which I will never probably understand, the Anthonys are coated with Teflon.
I think you're right on all your thoughts about the charges against them but in my gut I feel like they will eventually get in trouble with the shady finances. Got nothing to base that on other than, it's not just the sympathetic police deputy deciding things about money, bank accts, foundation grants and stuff like that. With as much in-your-face attitude they've put out in the public, surely somebody will make them account for what has become their livelihood. They are inherently dishonest so i'm betting that there's a whole lotta dirty A handprints all over the foundation books, especially at the beginning when they thought they were invincible. That's what i hope anyway cause they are pimping Caylee's murder and should be called to the carpet for that, hopefully in this world and for sure in the next.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 03, 2010, 05:22:41 PM
Hi Monkeys---

I understand Baez et al wanting to keep private the names of any visitors which Casey might have concerning her defense. I have questioned in my mind the propriety of releasing information to the public concerning when her lawyers visit, for how long, etc. However, any visit which is required by law to be taped (excluding those with her defense professionals) should be released to the public in compliance with FL Sunshine Laws.  I think that trying to keep visits of a personal nature private,  i.e. with Casey's parents, her brother, etc. is another example of the Anthonys demanding special privileges (And often getting them)  and I see no reason for it.

IMO Cindy and George Anthony should have been charged for some of their actions in tampering with evidence, interefering with an investigation and lying to LE.  I think that the Statute of Limitations has probably run out for some of the possible charges.
But when the police officer told Lois (I don't know her last name) that "Haven't the Anthonys been through enough?" that told the tale and has been the attitude of LE throughout this entire case. For reasons I don't understand and which I will never probably understand, the Anthonys are coated with Teflon.

hi BB!  they have expected special priveledges from the get go......I have 'heard' for many months that the LE has a case against the A's...now whether they ever go through with it or not..........who knows. So do they go after the poor grandparents AFTER their daughter is convicted of killing her own child.......poor people ::MonkeyRoll:: or if the world is coming to an end and somehow she is not convicted (yes I said it.......but just hypothetically ::MonkeyWink::) do they then go after them and it be looked at as revenge.........talk about a rock and a hard place. Personally I don't think they will ever be charged with anything UNLESS they lie on the stand.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 03, 2010, 05:23:51 PM
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23434131/detail.html

FOURTEEN DAYS...................FOURTEEN DAYS LEFT BOZO - LOL

NO EXCUSES FOR THE BOZO THIS TIME !!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 03, 2010, 05:25:08 PM
I sure hope we get to see the pre trial hearing in the civil case tomorrow, don't even care if it is live, will take a tape of it later in the day  ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

me too....but I hope it's LIVE....I am going to email RK and see if he knows
Sounds good, thanks  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 03, 2010, 05:26:12 PM

So smart!  ANY of the above and throw in extreme paranoia about their psycho client being revealed as the kook that she is and them trying every trick in the book to not get caught trying to drag this out for as long as possible and not at least trying to do right by her and pleading out if they could. (How's that for a run on sentence?)
Think of her fraud case, Bozo took every chance to declare his client's desire for trial. He was going to fight this injustice , blah, blah. In the end, last second, he folded, hadn't done a damn thing. Sneaky lil loser

 ::rhino:: ::rhino::

Hi Sunny---To call Baez a "Sneaky lil loser" is a beautiful thing. Music to my ears, or my eyes as it were.......... He looks like a mouse trying to steal some cheese.  All he needs is three long whiskers sticking out of each side of his chipmunk cheeks.

hi BB...give mizjay credit for that little jewel!!  "Sneaky lil loser"

oh lordy...now we are gonna have to beg Klaas for a little mouse/monkey!  LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 03, 2010, 05:27:02 PM
Hi Monkeys---

I understand Baez et al wanting to keep private the names of any visitors which Casey might have concerning her defense. I have questioned in my mind the propriety of releasing information to the public concerning when her lawyers visit, for how long, etc. However, any visit which is required by law to be taped (excluding those with her defense professionals) should be released to the public in compliance with FL Sunshine Laws.  I think that trying to keep visits of a personal nature private,  i.e. with Casey's parents, her brother, etc. is another example of the Anthonys demanding special privileges (And often getting them)  and I see no reason for it.

IMO Cindy and George Anthony should have been charged for some of their actions in tampering with evidence, interefering with an investigation and lying to LE.  I think that the Statute of Limitations has probably run out for some of the possible charges.
But when the police officer told Lois (I don't know her last name) that "Haven't the Anthonys been through enough?" that told the tale and has been the attitude of LE throughout this entire case. For reasons I don't understand and which I will never probably understand, the Anthonys are coated with Teflon.

hi BB!  they have expected special priveledges from the get go......I have 'heard' for many months that the LE has a case against the A's...now whether they ever go through with it or not..........who knows. So do they go after the poor grandparents AFTER their daughter is convicted of killing her own child.......poor people ::MonkeyRoll:: or if the world is coming to an end and somehow she is not convicted (yes I said it.......but just hypothetically ::MonkeyWink::) do they then go after them and it be looked at as revenge.........talk about a rock and a hard place. Personally I don't think they will ever be charged with anything UNLESS they lie on the stand.
There is always that chance of her not being convicted, that is why I keep holding out hope she is plead out. I don't think they will be charged with anything either  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 03, 2010, 05:28:56 PM
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23434131/detail.html

FOURTEEN DAYS...................FOURTEEN DAYS LEFT BOZO - LOL

NO EXCUSES FOR THE BOZO THIS TIME !!

Hi Turbo! ::MonkeyDance::  doncha just love it. ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 03, 2010, 05:34:01 PM
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23434131/detail.html

FOURTEEN DAYS...................FOURTEEN DAYS LEFT BOZO - LOL

NO EXCUSES FOR THE BOZO THIS TIME !!

Where's that WAAAAAHBULANCE pic?   He's still trying to formulate a cohesive sentence to re ask for the hundreth time why they can't have copies of TES records. How will he ever be able to crybaby out of this?    :smt089 :smt089 :smt089


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 03, 2010, 05:36:57 PM
Should be very interesting to see who argues all these motions. If Bozo stands up to do it I'll  do one of those yeeha rebel yells . That would make my day.   ::MonkeyGavel::

I can't wait..........
Baez: "uhmm, uhmm, judge, excuse me, uhmm, uhmmm, your honor, uhmmm, my girl, uhmm, I'm sorry, I mean, uhmm uhmm, my client, uhmmm, miss anthony..........  :smt015 :smt015 :smt015

Judge: "TODAY, Mr. Baez, TODAY, we have but 8 hours for you to argue your motion"....putz :smt075


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 03, 2010, 05:39:57 PM
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2010/05/casey-anthony-murder-trial-perry-sets.html
Monday, May 3, 2010
Casey Anthony Murder Trial: Perry Sets Hearing Dates


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 03, 2010, 05:44:07 PM
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2010/05/casey-anthony-murder-trial-perry-sets.html
Monday, May 3, 2010
Casey Anthony Murder Trial: Perry Sets Hearing Dates
Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 03, 2010, 05:45:53 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/22987477/detail.html
Where Is Caylee?: A Toddler Disappears
Young Mother's Web Of Lies Unravels


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 03, 2010, 05:48:13 PM
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2010/05/casey-anthony-murder-trial-perry-sets.html
Monday, May 3, 2010
Casey Anthony Murder Trial: Perry Sets Hearing Dates

Thanks trimm!

 ::MonkeyGavel::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 03, 2010, 05:50:01 PM
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2010/05/casey-anthony-murder-trial-perry-sets.html
Monday, May 3, 2010
Casey Anthony Murder Trial: Perry Sets Hearing Dates

Thanks trimm!

 ::MonkeyGavel::



I am so liking this judge!   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 05:57:48 PM
Didn't want to quote stack but re: Caps last response.  If they could begin a campaign bolstered by some quacks on their payroll who VISIT with her and conjure up some obscure mental health syndrome that would encompass her lying, her 'memory block' of a traumatic accident, toss in sexual and mental abuse and present it at last minute as a terrible accident...???  They can't really do it without enlisting her help. She would have to be taught what the new "real" story is, do ya think?

Well, they can try I just do not see that they will succeed by any stretch of the imagination.  Take for example the fact that she had searches on her computer months in advance, or that she made excuses to her friend why the car smelt or why when only faced with being in trouble did she lie about working & tell her tall tale of "Zanny the nanny" at Sawgrass but then changed it to a daytime child abduction in her presence at JBP...that isnt a "memory block" its flat out lying & it will be perceived by the jury as such...no doubt in my mind.   If she had a true "memory block" from a traumatic event she would have had great difficulty remembering things apparent to others nor would she have been able to conjure up all her lies & excuses from the point her mother found her at Tony's until her arrest the next day.  Any attempt by this defense to paint her as a sympathetic victim of some form of abuse or traumatic event will end up being a waste of time, in my view.  If she killed Caylee by any means that could be considered an accident, why would she go thru such great lengths to hide her body?  I'd argue that she would have collapsed with a "block" and scream to ask how her daughter ended up dead at the very location the death occurred.  How would she have had the presence of mind to dispose versus remembering how Caylee was killed yet go thru her single life with not a care in the world thereafter if Caylee's death wasn't intentional?    She didnt appear shaken or skipped a beat, in fact she went and rented movies less than 24 hours of Caylee's estimated death & spent the night boinking Tony.   I contend, traumatized or not she would still feel grief, its obvious she has none by her conduct that entire month.  One would have to ask at this point, so when did Casey conveniently snap out of her "block" in order to now admit she killed Caylee by accident (and yes she would have to admit such) - even so we have to remember that she has a child abuse charge attached to this case, giving a drug or toxic substance to a child for an unprescribed reason and/or amount, is indeed child abuse, death resulting murder.    She's not accused of overdosing her child on cold medicine unintentionally or leaving a bottle of aspirin open for a child to get their hands on, that would be considered negligent homicide or manslaughter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 03, 2010, 06:01:15 PM
Hi Monkeys---

I understand Baez et al wanting to keep private the names of any visitors which Casey might have concerning her defense. I have questioned in my mind the propriety of releasing information to the public concerning when her lawyers visit, for how long, etc. However, any visit which is required by law to be taped (excluding those with her defense professionals) should be released to the public in compliance with FL Sunshine Laws.  I think that trying to keep visits of a personal nature private,  i.e. with Casey's parents, her brother, etc. is another example of the Anthonys demanding special privileges (And often getting them)  and I see no reason for it.

IMO Cindy and George Anthony should have been charged for some of their actions in tampering with evidence, interefering with an investigation and lying to LE.  I think that the Statute of Limitations has probably run out for some of the possible charges.
But when the police officer told Lois (I don't know her last name) that "Haven't the Anthonys been through enough?" that told the tale and has been the attitude of LE throughout this entire case. For reasons I don't understand and which I will never probably understand, the Anthonys are coated with Teflon.

hi BB!  they have expected special priveledges from the get go......I have 'heard' for many months that the LE has a case against the A's...now whether they ever go through with it or not..........who knows. So do they go after the poor grandparents AFTER their daughter is convicted of killing her own child.......poor people ::MonkeyRoll:: or if the world is coming to an end and somehow she is not convicted (yes I said it.......but just hypothetically ::MonkeyWink::) do they then go after them and it be looked at as revenge.........talk about a rock and a hard place. Personally I don't think they will ever be charged with anything UNLESS they lie on the stand.
There is always that chance of her not being convicted, that is why I keep holding out hope she is plead out. I don't think they will be charged with anything either  ::MonkeyNoNo::

hi nrcg, all kidding aside, you are absolutely correct in saying there is always the chance of her not being convicted. OJ proved to the world there is no such thing as a slam dunk.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 03, 2010, 06:02:43 PM
Should be very interesting to see who argues all these motions. If Bozo stands up to do it I'll  do one of those yeeha rebel yells . That would make my day.   ::MonkeyGavel::

I can't wait..........
Baez: "uhmm, uhmm, judge, excuse me, uhmm, uhmmm, your honor, uhmmm, my girl, uhmm, I'm sorry, I mean, uhmm uhmm, my client, uhmmm, miss anthony..........  :smt015 :smt015 :smt015

Judge: "TODAY, Mr. Baez, TODAY, we have but 8 hours for you to argue your motion"....putz :smt075

seeme   ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 06:05:31 PM
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23434131/detail.html

FOURTEEN DAYS...................FOURTEEN DAYS LEFT BOZO - LOL

NO EXCUSES FOR THE BOZO THIS TIME !!

Where's that WAAAAAHBULANCE pic?   He's still trying to formulate a cohesive sentence to re ask for the hundreth time why they can't have copies of TES records. How will he ever be able to crybaby out of this?    :smt089 :smt089 :smt089
DONE AND ORDERED.... ::MonkeyGavel::   Next....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 03, 2010, 06:12:56 PM

They want to hide something, just not sure what it is yet.
It is expected that she will be examined by all kinds of Psych people, there's no secret in that- probably a Sexual abuse specialist too,  but we wouldn't expect otherwise. What defense strategy would they be divulging by our knowing that  Pschologists, Psychiatrists and Neurologists were visiting..... ? Big deal.
They are just trying to circumvent the Sunshine Laws again, we have the right to this information and I hope the Judge will not give in to them.

They would not really care WHO knew about psychiatrists or doctors, BUT what if they have someone hiding in the wings who is willing to say that KC was sexually abused by not only LA but GA also and had been for years.  But they have to all get together to get their stories straight. They sure would not want those witnesses known.

Maybe one or two girls or guys she went to school with from a younger age or even maybe some men she told while banging them. THAT would be a real kicker for her PTSD defense and blacking out so she really did not know what happened for those days or weeks afterward.

Or back to my original defense of she left Caylee that night with GA & CA and NEVER went back, and totally went into PTSD after she found out Caylee was dead. She would need witnesses to back these stories up and they may be getting them lined up for her.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 03, 2010, 06:54:45 PM
http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/23437124/detail.html
Judge Finalizes Casey Anthony Case Schedule
Judge Declines Defense's Request To Keep Budget Hearing Private

POSTED: 5:03 pm EDT May 3, 2010
UPDATED: 6:19 pm EDT May 3, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
Judge Belvin Perry finalized a schedule Monday shoehorning three critical hearings in the next eight days.

On Thursday morning, a hearing will be held to talk about how much taxpayer money Anthony should be budgeted to aid in her defense, now that she has been declared indigent.

On Friday, defense attorney Jose Baez asked Perry if the budget concerns will be discussed in private. Perry decided the budget hearing will be held in open court Thursday.
Perry said he he wanted to know how many hours the defense team's experts will require and if they are willing to abide by the fee schedule set by Florida's Justice Administrative Commission.

Next week, a series of important defense motions will be heard, including a hearing on the trial's location and another to discuss whether evidence can be introduced suggesting the man who discovered Caylee's remain, Roy Kronk, should have been investigated as a possible suspect.
Perry said he also plans to consider a series of defense motions challenging the death penalty.

WESH 2's Bob Kealing said, by next week, followers of the case should expect to know how much money it will cost taxpayers to defend Casey Anthony, where her trial will be held and whether the state can keep pursuing the ultimate punishment against her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 03, 2010, 06:57:06 PM
Judge Declines Defense's Request To Keep Budget Hearing Private   ::MonkeyCool::    Glad to hear that, should be no reason to keep it private, the taxpayers have a right to no.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 03, 2010, 06:57:45 PM
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23434131/detail.html

FOURTEEN DAYS...................FOURTEEN DAYS LEFT BOZO - LOL

NO EXCUSES FOR THE BOZO THIS TIME !!

Hot damn !!!!!    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 03, 2010, 07:00:04 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/05/casey-anthony-judge-perry-sets.html
WDBO Local News      
Casey Anthony: Judge Perry sets three May hearings
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ May 3, 2010 5:30 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
The new judge in the Casey Anthony case is keeping up with his reputation for a no-nonsense approach.

Judge Belvin Perry has set three hearings for this month. 

The first, which will be held Tuesday morning will discuss the budget in the case including how much taxpayer money Casey Anthony's lawyers plan to use for her defense. 

On May 10, judge Perry will hold a hearing on pending motions in the case that are "ripe for consideration."

A day later, Perry wants to hear pending motions regarding the death penalty.

There is also a status hearing in Casey's civil case set for Tuesday afternoon.
View the motions here  http://www.wdbo.com/common/pdf/orlando/order_setting_motion_hearings.pdf  and here.  http://www.wdbo.com/common/pdf/orlando/order_regarding_deposition_schedule.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 07:06:19 PM

They want to hide something, just not sure what it is yet.
It is expected that she will be examined by all kinds of Psych people, there's no secret in that- probably a Sexual abuse specialist too,  but we wouldn't expect otherwise. What defense strategy would they be divulging by our knowing that  Pschologists, Psychiatrists and Neurologists were visiting..... ? Big deal.
They are just trying to circumvent the Sunshine Laws again, we have the right to this information and I hope the Judge will not give in to them.

They would not really care WHO knew about psychiatrists or doctors, BUT what if they have someone hiding in the wings who is willing to say that KC was sexually abused by not only LA but GA also and had been for years.  But they have to all get together to get their stories straight. They sure would not want those witnesses known.

Maybe one or two girls or guys she went to school with from a younger age or even maybe some men she told while banging them. THAT would be a real kicker for her PTSD defense and blacking out so she really did not know what happened for those days or weeks afterward.

Or back to my original defense of she left Caylee that night with GA & CA and NEVER went back, and totally went into PTSD after she found out Caylee was dead. She would need witnesses to back these stories up and they may be getting them lined up for her.



If her boinking buddies are willing to testify that she gave them this molested story, they will be discredited as to why they did not come forward much sooner - like when Casey was first arrested or after Caylee's remains were found....I mean she is facing the DP so why be secretive as a witness if its exculpatory?   After all Jesse & Tony gave that knowledge of an accusation by Casey to LE as they were both interviewed without hesitation, which also by the way would question why PTSD or a "mental block" would occur years and/or months prior to Caylee's murder.   If they go with a PTSD defense, they will have to dance around why Caylee being killed is the ONLY thing Casey blocked & yet not the memory of being abused....JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 03, 2010, 07:12:48 PM

They want to hide something, just not sure what it is yet.
It is expected that she will be examined by all kinds of Psych people, there's no secret in that- probably a Sexual abuse specialist too,  but we wouldn't expect otherwise. What defense strategy would they be divulging by our knowing that  Pschologists, Psychiatrists and Neurologists were visiting..... ? Big deal.
They are just trying to circumvent the Sunshine Laws again, we have the right to this information and I hope the Judge will not give in to them.

They would not really care WHO knew about psychiatrists or doctors, BUT what if they have someone hiding in the wings who is willing to say that KC was sexually abused by not only LA but GA also and had been for years.  But they have to all get together to get their stories straight. They sure would not want those witnesses known.

Maybe one or two girls or guys she went to school with from a younger age or even maybe some men she told while banging them. THAT would be a real kicker for her PTSD defense and blacking out so she really did not know what happened for those days or weeks afterward.

Or back to my original defense of she left Caylee that night with GA & CA and NEVER went back, and totally went into PTSD after she found out Caylee was dead. She would need witnesses to back these stories up and they may be getting them lined up for her.



Whatever the reason--common sense tells us it is not to co-operate with the proscecution's side. lol;

I have often wondered about your last paragraph's theory---as well as others.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 07:13:28 PM
http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/23437124/detail.html
Judge Finalizes Casey Anthony Case Schedule
Judge Declines Defense's Request To Keep Budget Hearing Private

POSTED: 5:03 pm EDT May 3, 2010
UPDATED: 6:19 pm EDT May 3, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
Judge Belvin Perry finalized a schedule Monday shoehorning three critical hearings in the next eight days.

On Thursday morning, a hearing will be held to talk about how much taxpayer money Anthony should be budgeted to aid in her defense, now that she has been declared indigent.

On Friday, defense attorney Jose Baez asked Perry if the budget concerns will be discussed in private. Perry decided the budget hearing will be held in open court Thursday.
Perry said he he wanted to know how many hours the defense team's experts will require and if they are willing to abide by the fee schedule set by Florida's Justice Administrative Commission.

Next week, a series of important defense motions will be heard, including a hearing on the trial's location and another to discuss whether evidence can be introduced suggesting the man who discovered Caylee's remain, Roy Kronk, should have been investigated as a possible suspect.
Perry said he also plans to consider a series of defense motions challenging the death penalty.

WESH 2's Bob Kealing said, by next week, followers of the case should expect to know how much money it will cost taxpayers to defend Casey Anthony, where her trial will be held and whether the state can keep pursuing the ultimate punishment against her.

Why if Casey is innocent as proclaimed by Bozo himself or that Mason is looking forward to walking out arm-in-arm with that slore (yea right) do they feel the need to constantly ask for private meetings?   You'd think they would get a clue by now!

Look, let's all be honest here for a moment.   I cannot believe the defense is being this dense as to push this "Kronk should have been a suspect" crap, and it is just that.   Why?   You can't say Zanny the nanny abducted Caylee & then connect that miraculously from NY, Miami, Puerto Rico or whereever else the Anthonys claimed she might be  yet would end up back at the Anthony home to gather very specific items (not so much Caylee's items but the duct tape, heart shape sticker) to and arrange for Kronk to kill and dispose of Caylee a block from their home.   Also, let's not forget that Kronk hasnt been the only one maliciously named as a suspect by not only Casey, but her family & defense team.      TOO FLIPPIN RIDICULOUS FOR WORDS!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 03, 2010, 07:27:13 PM
The Defense is up a "creek without a paddle", and has been from the beginning -- that is why everything they do/say seems so pathetically outrageous.  The facts, when presented in court, will stand up for themselves and there is nothing the Defense can do about it.   Caylee will receive the justice which is her due.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 03, 2010, 07:39:40 PM
Wow that got long!!!  I'm so sorry.   ::monkeywine2::


I think we are all at the point - that this is soon coming to a " Answer" even if it is a year away - its coming and its " unknown" no promises no rude awakening no nothing - Its a wide open ??
and its frustrating and emotional.
We are all feeling it Wyks .. its been a grand slam in the last days ~ with no Ball in sight and NO one to catch it. No worries "your not alone" It is felt by all - this feeling of  ::MonkeyEek::


Very true... And I agree with the feeling of  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 03, 2010, 07:55:56 PM
Judge Declines Defense's Request To Keep Budget Hearing Private   ::MonkeyCool::    Glad to hear that, should be no reason to keep it private, the taxpayers have a right to no.

Wouldn't it be great if the Judge could just write in his order "Baez you are a DOLT, with an IQ level of a rock. Not to mention an insult to my and world's intelligence!" ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 03, 2010, 07:58:10 PM
I have to add to thoughts of " Why" someone becomes Casey as Casey ...... gag
If it was truly based upon environment " her childhood" her upbringing - that it was her reasons to become  a cold calculated teen, thief, no conscience what so ever, nothing can stop me, I can call my out my Father and Mother - say whatever comes out of my 4 letter mouth - for years on end. I have no recognizance. MY Payback to them is " I will NOT graduate from High School - ( I sure showed them) .. DAMN I am good * Casey. 

That is not behavior of " One who gets Life "  in the first place. If one " gets it" ( not growing up in Beaver Cleaver house)  they will survive anything within their environment with options of escape. It becomes a Job to do whatever it takes to leave and GROW and MOVE AWAY and separate themselves as they are able to - They won't stay and continue to stir and sit in the fire.  Kid's can't handle that sh*t - if they are mindful and have their head square - Priority is Self Preservation and being Self sufficient - No matter how long it takes-  Getting OUT is fought for and made.  Elder teens do not sit and stir within - NO. I know because I was that kid.  I did everything in my power to work jobs - gain money, bank it - I had 2 part-time jobs in 11th grade -  I was never home. I went to High School crack ass Dawn and worked till Dark - sometimes after 2 am on Fri/Sat nights.  Why ? because I had to. For Me. 
That is what Casey has never had EVER in her life - She has never felt within herself " That Fight" to Fight for her Own Self. She has no Identity - She has no sense of Self. As self centered and selfish she appears - She would not recognize her SELF if it stared her Eye to Eye in a mirror. She has created this " Beautiful Life Lie" of being Six years old the Prize of MOM and DAD ~ yet wants to be free wielding stealing them blind, running wild without any rules of society " Shut the F up MOM/DAD ... That is not environment - that is Casey her jacked up sense of Self. She is not a HOPE Sykes. She has conditioned her own self through the years with everyone. She masquerades and flip switches like a Chameleon. Where ever she is ..even if its out of her comfort zone - She will " Fit" in.

Mental Illness  No, Family upbringing No, Do I believe some ppl are born evil - yes. 

 



I agree Deenie.. Hugs and understanding from another who couldn't wait to get the heck outta dodge, counting the years/months/weeks/days/minutes til that happened.  Oh yeah. 

Am thinking that what you've written and what I wrote are in some ways saying some of the same things, just put differently.  A malignant narcissist (psychopath) is largely in part "born" thatta way, (evil)... which is why there is NO therapy that will work... as well as environmental to some degree when they continue along with that to learn from a narcissistic parent/caregiver in their life.  The antisocial personality (sociopath) is the reverse, largely environmental with genetics to some degree. 

One reason I know so much about this stuff is cuz of my oldest son.  He definitely is at the least a sociopath.  <cries>  Close enough to the behavior of Casey to be a male version of her in most attitudes, but not quite as 'evil'... so far.  However, I am not narcissistic or borderline, his father is.  And even tho he hasn't been around his father for over 23 years, he's a walkin talkin clone of him.  How can that be without being in his life since he was 6?  Genetics.   

Not saying that Casey can blame it all on genetics, she has her own share of choices that she has made for herself as a child/teen and adult.  Just saying it's a combination of both genetics and environment, and am betting the defense will use that to the possible max and likely beyond.  Not that it will help tho.  lol

IMO. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 03, 2010, 08:00:46 PM
Judge Declines Defense's Request To Keep Budget Hearing Private   ::MonkeyCool::    Glad to hear that, should be no reason to keep it private, the taxpayers have a right to no.

Wouldn't it be great if the Judge could just write in his order "Baez you are a DOLT, with an IQ level of a rock. Not to mention an insult to my and world's intelligence!" ::MonkeyDevil::
We can hope for that  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 03, 2010, 08:02:38 PM
Wow that got long!!!  I'm so sorry.   ::monkeywine2::


Well, sometimes in order to be truly insightful, one has to expound. Your post was just long enough to be truly insightful...and very informative. Thanks!

Ohhhh thanks, Tevye!  Was hoping it would be helpful.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 03, 2010, 08:06:38 PM
Judge Declines Defense's Request To Keep Budget Hearing Private   ::MonkeyCool::    Glad to hear that, should be no reason to keep it private, the taxpayers have a right to no.

Wouldn't it be great if the Judge could just write in his order "Baez you are a DOLT, with an IQ level of a rock. Not to mention an insult to my and world's intelligence!" ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::rhino:: ::rhino:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 03, 2010, 08:07:57 PM
The Defense is up a "creek without a paddle", and has been from the beginning -- that is why everything they do/say seems so pathetically outrageous.  The facts, when presented in court, will stand up for themselves and there is nothing the Defense can do about it.   Caylee will receive the justice which is her due.
`

Yep, yep, yep!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 03, 2010, 08:16:24 PM
Wow that got long!!!  I'm so sorry.   ::monkeywine2::


Well, sometimes in order to be truly insightful, one has to expound. Your post was just long enough to be truly insightful...and very informative. Thanks!

Ohhhh thanks, Tevye!  Was hoping it would be helpful.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Yes it was, thank-you  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 03, 2010, 08:20:00 PM
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GMAFB and STFU were my 1st thoughts when I read your post trimm.......oh and ZIP IT!!!!!!

I read this statement of MD's in a recent article posted on his blog....it proves he THINKS this case is all about him!

"I got a phone call from a TRUE friend earlier today. She wanted to know how I handle the few blogs that are so overtly tormented by my existence that they have forgotten what this is all about. Easy, I said. The more preoccupied they are with me, the less time they spend thinking about and discussing the victim, Caylee, and the defendant, Casey, not to mention George and Cindy."


This is about CAYLEE, marinadebrain, NOT YOU!!!!!

MD needs professional help......IMO

I apologize Klaas, I refuse to post the link to his blog.


 ::MonkeyJnBox::  seeme, I understand your refusal!   ::MonkeyKiss::

It is beyond belief how ignorant this guy is.I told hubby this morning I wasn't going to read anymore of this chit.
Seeme,I am with you.This is one link I will not link anymore.   ::HelloKitty::

Yep to all of you !      There's no way to discuss the "victim, Caylee" without discussing how she became a victim and who caused her to die. He's so bassackwards and irritating that I personally don't know how anyone reads his blog. His 15 minutes of fame should have been up about 2 weeks ago but unfortunately it's not and in his marinaded, over saturated brain he will always be a celebrity. I wish he'd just take his hankie and run home to mama and daddy...oh, yeah, I forgot he already has. (sorry, just couldn't hold it back)

Does it seem to y'all that marinadedave has come out even more obnoxious than he was before what happened with the judge?  Seems to me that would cause someone in dave's position to sit back n hide from shame, definitely hush at least for awhile.  But not him!  Sheeeesh. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 03, 2010, 08:22:33 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/
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May 2, 2010 · 68 Comments         :roll:

GMAFB and STFU were my 1st thoughts when I read your post trimm.......oh and ZIP IT!!!!!!

I read this statement of MD's in a recent article posted on his blog....it proves he THINKS this case is all about him!

"I got a phone call from a TRUE friend earlier today. She wanted to know how I handle the few blogs that are so overtly tormented by my existence that they have forgotten what this is all about. Easy, I said. The more preoccupied they are with me, the less time they spend thinking about and discussing the victim, Caylee, and the defendant, Casey, not to mention George and Cindy."


This is about CAYLEE, marinadebrain, NOT YOU!!!!!

MD needs professional help......IMO

I apologize Klaas, I refuse to post the link to his blog.


What you said with a message to Dave from me:   I guess we now know why he was kissing up to the Anthonys & Jim all along, for his  "It’s only a 2-minute segment and I’m mentioned briefly, but it’s something."    Yes, Dave you are indeed a minute man!

Ya know.. I dated a 2 minute man... ONCE!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cookie on May 03, 2010, 08:32:16 PM
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/
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May 2, 2010 · 68 Comments         :roll:

GMAFB and STFU were my 1st thoughts when I read your post trimm.......oh and ZIP IT!!!!!!

I read this statement of MD's in a recent article posted on his blog....it proves he THINKS this case is all about him!

"I got a phone call from a TRUE friend earlier today. She wanted to know how I handle the few blogs that are so overtly tormented by my existence that they have forgotten what this is all about. Easy, I said. The more preoccupied they are with me, the less time they spend thinking about and discussing the victim, Caylee, and the defendant, Casey, not to mention George and Cindy."


This is about CAYLEE, marinadebrain, NOT YOU!!!!!

MD needs professional help......IMO

I apologize Klaas, I refuse to post the link to his blog.


What you said with a message to Dave from me:   I guess we now know why he was kissing up to the Anthonys & Jim all along, for his  "It’s only a 2-minute segment and I’m mentioned briefly, but it’s something."    Yes, Dave you are indeed a minute man!

Ya know.. I dated a 2 minute man... ONCE!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


lol...it only takes once doesn't it....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 03, 2010, 08:32:28 PM

They want to hide something, just not sure what it is yet.
It is expected that she will be examined by all kinds of Psych people, there's no secret in that- probably a Sexual abuse specialist too,  but we wouldn't expect otherwise. What defense strategy would they be divulging by our knowing that  Pschologists, Psychiatrists and Neurologists were visiting..... ? Big deal.
They are just trying to circumvent the Sunshine Laws again, we have the right to this information and I hope the Judge will not give in to them.

That's exactly what it sounds like to me too, that they are trying to circumvent the Sunshine Laws again.  They seem to have such a need to control every aspect of this case, including what the court's role in this is.  Too bad for them they live in FL where the Sunshine Laws is.. well.. law.   ::MonkeyGavel::


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Post by: Wyks on May 03, 2010, 08:35:07 PM

It is doubtful the defense will succeed with something this broad, nor do I think that CJBP will reverse a previous order (appeal concerns) i.e. the Anthonys previous request.   Generally, judges will not make exception to change jail standard operating procedures, especially concerning security & monitoring for one defendant, regardless wide coverage of the case.   If anything they may be granted that professionals that may testify for the defense on their evaluations & expertise will be sealed, but yes the prosecution will receive same under the rules of discovery.

I doubt the defense is attempting to use the Anthonys to get Casey to plea.   I do not see Cindy caving to encourage her monster to serve 25 or more years in jail for something she insists she didn't do, this family is fighting because they got caught & they don't want to face the shame of being judicially found guilty of murder, conspiracy after the fact nor have it affirmed that this family are the lowest form of life.     However, the defense may be hoping for a confrontation regarding Casey's accusations of molestation & abuse because they have nothing that indicates her claim is yet not another lie or it could be that they are merely trying to demonstrate that Casey's family still supports her & believes in her innocence, yea right.   It is my firm believe that the State will never agree to take a plea of less than 25 years to life, if anything at all.   There are a few reasons why I take that position, not the least of which the recent estimation of time the prosecution feels they need in an expected penalty phase is telling...they are confident.

They undoubtedly will launch a diminished capacity defense but at this point IMHO they can only use this in penalty phase because Casey has insisted on her innocence & this should have been done long before now.   Her family insisted infatically that she did not have mental health history, her defense never even approached it beyond Lenamons's what if's & put forward that she was innocent.    Not a sole will believe her new stories because she told too many lies already, it will be transparent that after 2 years she is now admitting culpability no matter the reason to avoid the ultimate punishment, in other words she is guilty & knows she will be convicted of felony murder.   If she attempts to admit that she made up the nanny, regrets fingering others as possible suspects she is admitting that she concealed what she did to avoid having to face the consequence, in my view as soon as the prosecution would get wind of that change in strategy they will know to definitely take this case to trial.

 ::rhino::  Thanks Capp!  You have such a delightful way with words!  They just flow together and make such good sense, seemingly with little effort.  Thanks again!  And I totally agree.  lol


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Post by: Wyks on May 03, 2010, 08:37:20 PM
Wyks, I just wanted to let you know that I did read your post & we are on the same wave length pretty much in total.    Deenie, "kindred spirit" comes to mind  ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks Capp!   ::piggy::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 03, 2010, 08:42:29 PM
Didn't want to quote stack but re: Caps last response.  If they could begin a campaign bolstered by some quacks on their payroll who VISIT with her and conjure up some obscure mental health syndrome that would encompass her lying, her 'memory block' of a traumatic accident, toss in sexual and mental abuse and present it at last minute as a terrible accident...???  They can't really do it without enlisting her help. She would have to be taught what the new "real" story is, do ya think?

They'd definitely have to get on the same page with Casey.  And since the public seems to 'be on' them all re the passing of notes and letters between family, guess they are getting desperate for other ways of getting info back n forth without the public's knowledge.  What's next, carrier pidgeon? 



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Post by: Wyks on May 03, 2010, 08:47:11 PM

Hi Sunny---To call Baez a "Sneaky lil loser" is a beautiful thing. Music to my ears, or my eyes as it were.......... He looks like a mouse trying to steal some cheese.  All he needs is three long whiskers sticking out of each side of his chipmunk cheeks.

Good one Babybear!! 

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyJnBox::   ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 03, 2010, 08:59:53 PM

They want to hide something, just not sure what it is yet.
It is expected that she will be examined by all kinds of Psych people, there's no secret in that- probably a Sexual abuse specialist too,  but we wouldn't expect otherwise. What defense strategy would they be divulging by our knowing that  Pschologists, Psychiatrists and Neurologists were visiting..... ? Big deal.
They are just trying to circumvent the Sunshine Laws again, we have the right to this information and I hope the Judge will not give in to them.

They would not really care WHO knew about psychiatrists or doctors, BUT what if they have someone hiding in the wings who is willing to say that KC was sexually abused by not only LA but GA also and had been for years.  But they have to all get together to get their stories straight. They sure would not want those witnesses known.

Maybe one or two girls or guys she went to school with from a younger age or even maybe some men she told while banging them. THAT would be a real kicker for her PTSD defense and blacking out so she really did not know what happened for those days or weeks afterward.

Or back to my original defense of she left Caylee that night with GA & CA and NEVER went back, and totally went into PTSD after she found out Caylee was dead. She would need witnesses to back these stories up and they may be getting them lined up for her.



They could have any number of folks waiting in the wings to testify they knew of sexual abuse of Casey for years by GA/LA, even by CA, from females isn't unheard of, or anyone else..... however..... they will likely also have to explain why that type of thing was known at that time yet went unreported back then, why no one sought help for her etc.  Why wait til now for them to go oh yeah by the way, this happened.  Wouldn't it just boil down to 'thanks for that info', but not taken seriously without reports, evidence, treatment, etc to back it all up? 

How much money would it take for someone to perjure themselves?   ::MonkeyShovel::





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 03, 2010, 09:03:47 PM

They want to hide something, just not sure what it is yet.
It is expected that she will be examined by all kinds of Psych people, there's no secret in that- probably a Sexual abuse specialist too,  but we wouldn't expect otherwise. What defense strategy would they be divulging by our knowing that  Pschologists, Psychiatrists and Neurologists were visiting..... ? Big deal.
They are just trying to circumvent the Sunshine Laws again, we have the right to this information and I hope the Judge will not give in to them.

They would not really care WHO knew about psychiatrists or doctors, BUT what if they have someone hiding in the wings who is willing to say that KC was sexually abused by not only LA but GA also and had been for years.  But they have to all get together to get their stories straight. They sure would not want those witnesses known.

Maybe one or two girls or guys she went to school with from a younger age or even maybe some men she told while banging them. THAT would be a real kicker for her PTSD defense and blacking out so she really did not know what happened for those days or weeks afterward.

Or back to my original defense of she left Caylee that night with GA & CA and NEVER went back, and totally went into PTSD after she found out Caylee was dead. She would need witnesses to back these stories up and they may be getting them lined up for her.



If her boinking buddies are willing to testify that she gave them this molested story, they will be discredited as to why they did not come forward much sooner - like when Casey was first arrested or after Caylee's remains were found....I mean she is facing the DP so why be secretive as a witness if its exculpatory?   After all Jesse & Tony gave that knowledge of an accusation by Casey to LE as they were both interviewed without hesitation, which also by the way would question why PTSD or a "mental block" would occur years and/or months prior to Caylee's murder.   If they go with a PTSD defense, they will have to dance around why Caylee being killed is the ONLY thing Casey blocked & yet not the memory of being abused....JMO

Yeppers!   ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 03, 2010, 09:05:50 PM
Wow that got long!!!  I'm so sorry.   ::monkeywine2::


Well, sometimes in order to be truly insightful, one has to expound. Your post was just long enough to be truly insightful...and very informative. Thanks!

Ohhhh thanks, Tevye!  Was hoping it would be helpful.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Yes it was, thank-you  ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks!!  ::piggy::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 03, 2010, 09:10:28 PM

lol...it only takes once doesn't it....

Yep!!   ::MonkeyCool::   ::MonkeyHaHa::




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 03, 2010, 10:46:30 PM
Didn't want to quote stack but re: Caps last response.  If they could begin a campaign bolstered by some quacks on their payroll who VISIT with her and conjure up some obscure mental health syndrome that would encompass her lying, her 'memory block' of a traumatic accident, toss in sexual and mental abuse and present it at last minute as a terrible accident...???  They can't really do it without enlisting her help. She would have to be taught what the new "real" story is, do ya think?

Well, they can try I just do not see that they will succeed by any stretch of the imagination.  Take for example the fact that she had searches on her computer months in advance, or that she made excuses to her friend why the car smelt or why when only faced with being in trouble did she lie about working & tell her tall tale of "Zanny the nanny" at Sawgrass but then changed it to a daytime child abduction in her presence at JBP...that isnt a "memory block" its flat out lying & it will be perceived by the jury as such...no doubt in my mind.   If she had a true "memory block" from a traumatic event she would have had great difficulty remembering things apparent to others nor would she have been able to conjure up all her lies & excuses from the point her mother found her at Tony's until her arrest the next day.  Any attempt by this defense to paint her as a sympathetic victim of some form of abuse or traumatic event will end up being a waste of time, in my view.  If she killed Caylee by any means that could be considered an accident, why would she go thru such great lengths to hide her body?  I'd argue that she would have collapsed with a "block" and scream to ask how her daughter ended up dead at the very location the death occurred.  How would she have had the presence of mind to dispose versus remembering how Caylee was killed yet go thru her single life with not a care in the world thereafter if Caylee's death wasn't intentional?    She didnt appear shaken or skipped a beat, in fact she went and rented movies less than 24 hours of Caylee's estimated death & spent the night boinking Tony.   I contend, traumatized or not she would still feel grief, its obvious she has none by her conduct that entire month.  One would have to ask at this point, so when did Casey conveniently snap out of her "block" in order to now admit she killed Caylee by accident (and yes she would have to admit such) - even so we have to remember that she has a child abuse charge attached to this case, giving a drug or toxic substance to a child for an unprescribed reason and/or amount, is indeed child abuse, death resulting murder.    She's not accused of overdosing her child on cold medicine unintentionally or leaving a bottle of aspirin open for a child to get their hands on, that would be considered negligent homicide or manslaughter.

Thanks for the reply. got kicked out for a bit and then picked up the little gson from preschool.
I know all you said (so well) is the logical rebuttal but with this crew defending her and the latest go-round of privacy motions makes me so suspicious of what kind of malarky they're wanting to pull next.  I think JP will tire quickly of their redundant motions, so we'll see.
To attempt to paint her in any kind of frail, wounded light will fail and for that to happen I really think she'd need to testify and I just don't see that happening.
It would be on the order of the Menedez brothers type of shocker defense which failed them and I don't think they were half the evil she is.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 11:37:30 PM

They want to hide something, just not sure what it is yet.
It is expected that she will be examined by all kinds of Psych people, there's no secret in that- probably a Sexual abuse specialist too,  but we wouldn't expect otherwise. What defense strategy would they be divulging by our knowing that  Pschologists, Psychiatrists and Neurologists were visiting..... ? Big deal.
They are just trying to circumvent the Sunshine Laws again, we have the right to this information and I hope the Judge will not give in to them.

They would not really care WHO knew about psychiatrists or doctors, BUT what if they have someone hiding in the wings who is willing to say that KC was sexually abused by not only LA but GA also and had been for years.  But they have to all get together to get their stories straight. They sure would not want those witnesses known.

Maybe one or two girls or guys she went to school with from a younger age or even maybe some men she told while banging them. THAT would be a real kicker for her PTSD defense and blacking out so she really did not know what happened for those days or weeks afterward.

Or back to my original defense of she left Caylee that night with GA & CA and NEVER went back, and totally went into PTSD after she found out Caylee was dead. She would need witnesses to back these stories up and they may be getting them lined up for her.



They could have any number of folks waiting in the wings to testify they knew of sexual abuse of Casey for years by GA/LA, even by CA, from females isn't unheard of, or anyone else..... however..... they will likely also have to explain why that type of thing was known at that time yet went unreported back then, why no one sought help for her etc.  Why wait til now for them to go oh yeah by the way, this happened.  Wouldn't it just boil down to 'thanks for that info', but not taken seriously without reports, evidence, treatment, etc to back it all up? 

How much money would it take for someone to perjure themselves?   ::MonkeyShovel::




Ding!

She conveniently used it only when she needed to excuse her bad acts or when she felt someone was on to her lies enough that she had to play victim in an attempt to manipulate that person from feeling bad dismissing her from their life - that is not PTSD like at all.     How would that person look on the stand bringing it out now not then, not to LE but to her defense attorneys instead....not credible.   At least with


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 11:38:55 PM

They want to hide something, just not sure what it is yet.
It is expected that she will be examined by all kinds of Psych people, there's no secret in that- probably a Sexual abuse specialist too,  but we wouldn't expect otherwise. What defense strategy would they be divulging by our knowing that  Pschologists, Psychiatrists and Neurologists were visiting..... ? Big deal.
They are just trying to circumvent the Sunshine Laws again, we have the right to this information and I hope the Judge will not give in to them.

They would not really care WHO knew about psychiatrists or doctors, BUT what if they have someone hiding in the wings who is willing to say that KC was sexually abused by not only LA but GA also and had been for years.  But they have to all get together to get their stories straight. They sure would not want those witnesses known.

Maybe one or two girls or guys she went to school with from a younger age or even maybe some men she told while banging them. THAT would be a real kicker for her PTSD defense and blacking out so she really did not know what happened for those days or weeks afterward.

Or back to my original defense of she left Caylee that night with GA & CA and NEVER went back, and totally went into PTSD after she found out Caylee was dead. She would need witnesses to back these stories up and they may be getting them lined up for her.



They could have any number of folks waiting in the wings to testify they knew of sexual abuse of Casey for years by GA/LA, even by CA, from females isn't unheard of, or anyone else..... however..... they will likely also have to explain why that type of thing was known at that time yet went unreported back then, why no one sought help for her etc.  Why wait til now for them to go oh yeah by the way, this happened.  Wouldn't it just boil down to 'thanks for that info', but not taken seriously without reports, evidence, treatment, etc to back it all up? 

How much money would it take for someone to perjure themselves?   ::MonkeyShovel::




Ding!

She conveniently used it only when she needed to excuse her bad acts or when she felt someone was on to her lies enough that she had to play victim in an attempt to manipulate that person from feeling bad dismissing her from their life - that is not PTSD like at all.     How would that person look on the stand bringing it out now not then, not to LE but to her defense attorneys instead....not credible.   At least with

opps , hit the wrong key

....Tony and Jesse they reported the story she told each of them to LE when they were interviewed. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 03, 2010, 11:52:46 PM
Didn't want to quote stack but re: Caps last response.  If they could begin a campaign bolstered by some quacks on their payroll who VISIT with her and conjure up some obscure mental health syndrome that would encompass her lying, her 'memory block' of a traumatic accident, toss in sexual and mental abuse and present it at last minute as a terrible accident...???  They can't really do it without enlisting her help. She would have to be taught what the new "real" story is, do ya think?

Well, they can try I just do not see that they will succeed by any stretch of the imagination.  Take for example the fact that she had searches on her computer months in advance, or that she made excuses to her friend why the car smelt or why when only faced with being in trouble did she lie about working & tell her tall tale of "Zanny the nanny" at Sawgrass but then changed it to a daytime child abduction in her presence at JBP...that isnt a "memory block" its flat out lying & it will be perceived by the jury as such...no doubt in my mind.   If she had a true "memory block" from a traumatic event she would have had great difficulty remembering things apparent to others nor would she have been able to conjure up all her lies & excuses from the point her mother found her at Tony's until her arrest the next day.  Any attempt by this defense to paint her as a sympathetic victim of some form of abuse or traumatic event will end up being a waste of time, in my view.  If she killed Caylee by any means that could be considered an accident, why would she go thru such great lengths to hide her body?  I'd argue that she would have collapsed with a "block" and scream to ask how her daughter ended up dead at the very location the death occurred.  How would she have had the presence of mind to dispose versus remembering how Caylee was killed yet go thru her single life with not a care in the world thereafter if Caylee's death wasn't intentional?    She didnt appear shaken or skipped a beat, in fact she went and rented movies less than 24 hours of Caylee's estimated death & spent the night boinking Tony.   I contend, traumatized or not she would still feel grief, its obvious she has none by her conduct that entire month.  One would have to ask at this point, so when did Casey conveniently snap out of her "block" in order to now admit she killed Caylee by accident (and yes she would have to admit such) - even so we have to remember that she has a child abuse charge attached to this case, giving a drug or toxic substance to a child for an unprescribed reason and/or amount, is indeed child abuse, death resulting murder.    She's not accused of overdosing her child on cold medicine unintentionally or leaving a bottle of aspirin open for a child to get their hands on, that would be considered negligent homicide or manslaughter.

Thanks for the reply. got kicked out for a bit and then picked up the little gson from preschool.
I know all you said (so well) is the logical rebuttal but with this crew defending her and the latest go-round of privacy motions makes me so suspicious of what kind of malarky they're wanting to pull next.  I think JP will tire quickly of their redundant motions, so we'll see.
To attempt to paint her in any kind of frail, wounded light will fail and for that to happen I really think she'd need to testify and I just don't see that happening.
It would be on the order of the Menedez brothers type of shocker defense which failed them and I don't think they were half the evil she is.   

For what its worth, I've never wavered whatsoever in confidence that no matter what this defense attempts, it will fail.   It begins with Casey not reporting her child missing for 31 days & ends with all her lies.   Well, a ton in between but everyone gets my point.    For example, the jury might ask "Why didnt she care what happened to her car?   She made no effort to find it & had to have known it wasnt where she left it."   OR   "Why did she make up so many stories, if she doesnt remember what happened?   If she was innocent but didnt remember, she wouldnt have offered any elaborate stories, right?"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Mtnmom on May 04, 2010, 12:20:31 AM
So if they go with PTSD they gotta get rid of those party pictures so the jury dont see her having a good time.      ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 04, 2010, 12:34:01 AM
Didn't want to quote stack but re: Caps last response.  If they could begin a campaign bolstered by some quacks on their payroll who VISIT with her and conjure up some obscure mental health syndrome that would encompass her lying, her 'memory block' of a traumatic accident, toss in sexual and mental abuse and present it at last minute as a terrible accident...???  They can't really do it without enlisting her help. She would have to be taught what the new "real" story is, do ya think?

Well, they can try I just do not see that they will succeed by any stretch of the imagination.  Take for example the fact that she had searches on her computer months in advance, or that she made excuses to her friend why the car smelt or why when only faced with being in trouble did she lie about working & tell her tall tale of "Zanny the nanny" at Sawgrass but then changed it to a daytime child abduction in her presence at JBP...that isnt a "memory block" its flat out lying & it will be perceived by the jury as such...no doubt in my mind.   If she had a true "memory block" from a traumatic event she would have had great difficulty remembering things apparent to others nor would she have been able to conjure up all her lies & excuses from the point her mother found her at Tony's until her arrest the next day.  Any attempt by this defense to paint her as a sympathetic victim of some form of abuse or traumatic event will end up being a waste of time, in my view.  If she killed Caylee by any means that could be considered an accident, why would she go thru such great lengths to hide her body?  I'd argue that she would have collapsed with a "block" and scream to ask how her daughter ended up dead at the very location the death occurred.  How would she have had the presence of mind to dispose versus remembering how Caylee was killed yet go thru her single life with not a care in the world thereafter if Caylee's death wasn't intentional?    She didnt appear shaken or skipped a beat, in fact she went and rented movies less than 24 hours of Caylee's estimated death & spent the night boinking Tony.   I contend, traumatized or not she would still feel grief, its obvious she has none by her conduct that entire month.  One would have to ask at this point, so when did Casey conveniently snap out of her "block" in order to now admit she killed Caylee by accident (and yes she would have to admit such) - even so we have to remember that she has a child abuse charge attached to this case, giving a drug or toxic substance to a child for an unprescribed reason and/or amount, is indeed child abuse, death resulting murder.    She's not accused of overdosing her child on cold medicine unintentionally or leaving a bottle of aspirin open for a child to get their hands on, that would be considered negligent homicide or manslaughter.

Thanks for the reply. got kicked out for a bit and then picked up the little gson from preschool.
I know all you said (so well) is the logical rebuttal but with this crew defending her and the latest go-round of privacy motions makes me so suspicious of what kind of malarky they're wanting to pull next.  I think JP will tire quickly of their redundant motions, so we'll see.
To attempt to paint her in any kind of frail, wounded light will fail and for that to happen I really think she'd need to testify and I just don't see that happening.
It would be on the order of the Menedez brothers type of shocker defense which failed them and I don't think they were half the evil she is.   

For what its worth, I've never wavered whatsoever in confidence that no matter what this defense attempts, it will fail.   It begins with Casey not reporting her child missing for 31 days & ends with all her lies.   Well, a ton in between but everyone gets my point.    For example, the jury might ask "Why didnt she care what happened to her car?   She made no effort to find it & had to have known it wasnt where she left it."   OR   "Why did she make up so many stories, if she doesnt remember what happened?   If she was innocent but didnt remember, she wouldnt have offered any elaborate stories, right?"

Yes, I think her elaborate lies will be her undoing. How can they distinguish which lies are defense mechanism ( her psyche 'protecting' her), which lies are the garden variety (that according to her mother every person does) and which statements aren't lies ( the abuse ) do they think they can pick and choose through her crazy quilt of statements and label this or that truth, this was a lie but she didn't know she was lying or she knew on this she was lying but the police coerced her.......there's just too much insanity to try and spin it.   Also the many lies that had no bearing on this case whatsoever prove that she was a prolific liar long before the murder, all the crud she told TL and friends is a good example.    This is such a weird circumstance that a woman who kills her child has a maniacal family support system that would be willing to back up her stories and a legal team that is willing to implicate and destroy innocent bystanders in order to promote their own agendas. Scary stuff.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 04, 2010, 12:38:37 AM
So if they go with PTSD they gotta get rid of those party pictures so the jury dont see her having a good time.      ::MonkeyNoNo::
Mtnmom, lucky for her they already explained those party pix with the infamous  ugly coping explanation.  ::MonkeyDevil::  Wonder if they forgot that one already?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 04, 2010, 05:29:40 AM
Didn't want to quote stack but re: Caps last response.  If they could begin a campaign bolstered by some quacks on their payroll who VISIT with her and conjure up some obscure mental health syndrome that would encompass her lying, her 'memory block' of a traumatic accident, toss in sexual and mental abuse and present it at last minute as a terrible accident...???  They can't really do it without enlisting her help. She would have to be taught what the new "real" story is, do ya think?

Well, they can try I just do not see that they will succeed by any stretch of the imagination.  Take for example the fact that she had searches on her computer months in advance, or that she made excuses to her friend why the car smelt or why when only faced with being in trouble did she lie about working & tell her tall tale of "Zanny the nanny" at Sawgrass but then changed it to a daytime child abduction in her presence at JBP...that isnt a "memory block" its flat out lying & it will be perceived by the jury as such...no doubt in my mind.   If she had a true "memory block" from a traumatic event she would have had great difficulty remembering things apparent to others nor would she have been able to conjure up all her lies & excuses from the point her mother found her at Tony's until her arrest the next day.  Any attempt by this defense to paint her as a sympathetic victim of some form of abuse or traumatic event will end up being a waste of time, in my view.  If she killed Caylee by any means that could be considered an accident, why would she go thru such great lengths to hide her body?  I'd argue that she would have collapsed with a "block" and scream to ask how her daughter ended up dead at the very location the death occurred.  How would she have had the presence of mind to dispose versus remembering how Caylee was killed yet go thru her single life with not a care in the world thereafter if Caylee's death wasn't intentional?    She didnt appear shaken or skipped a beat, in fact she went and rented movies less than 24 hours of Caylee's estimated death & spent the night boinking Tony.   I contend, traumatized or not she would still feel grief, its obvious she has none by her conduct that entire month.  One would have to ask at this point, so when did Casey conveniently snap out of her "block" in order to now admit she killed Caylee by accident (and yes she would have to admit such) - even so we have to remember that she has a child abuse charge attached to this case, giving a drug or toxic substance to a child for an unprescribed reason and/or amount, is indeed child abuse, death resulting murder.    She's not accused of overdosing her child on cold medicine unintentionally or leaving a bottle of aspirin open for a child to get their hands on, that would be considered negligent homicide or manslaughter.

Thanks for the reply. got kicked out for a bit and then picked up the little gson from preschool.
I know all you said (so well) is the logical rebuttal but with this crew defending her and the latest go-round of privacy motions makes me so suspicious of what kind of malarky they're wanting to pull next.  I think JP will tire quickly of their redundant motions, so we'll see.
To attempt to paint her in any kind of frail, wounded light will fail and for that to happen I really think she'd need to testify and I just don't see that happening.
It would be on the order of the Menedez brothers type of shocker defense which failed them and I don't think they were half the evil she is.   

For what its worth, I've never wavered whatsoever in confidence that no matter what this defense attempts, it will fail.   It begins with Casey not reporting her child missing for 31 days & ends with all her lies.   Well, a ton in between but everyone gets my point.    For example, the jury might ask "Why didnt she care what happened to her car?   She made no effort to find it & had to have known it wasnt where she left it."   OR   "Why did she make up so many stories, if she doesnt remember what happened?   If she was innocent but didnt remember, she wouldnt have offered any elaborate stories, right?"

IMO..the fact that KC did not report her child missing for 31 days (and then only because her Mom ferreted her out of her hidey-hole) tells you everything you need to know.  KC killed her and was hiding from it...stupid to the max...because there was NEVER any way she could get beyond that fact!!  NEVER any way anyone, friends, family, lovers, who would not question what happened.  NEVER!!





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 04, 2010, 07:02:22 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/23437124/detail.html
Judge Finalizes Casey Anthony Case Schedule
Judge Says Hearing Will Not Be Private

POSTED: 5:03 pm EDT May 3, 2010
UPDATED: 11:31 pm EDT May 3, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
Judge Belvin Perry finalized a schedule Monday shoehorning three critical hearings in the next eight days.

On Thursday morning, a hearing will be held to talk about how much taxpayer money Anthony should be budgeted to aid in her defense, now that she has been declared indigent.

On Friday, defense attorney Jose Baez asked Perry if the budget concerns will be discussed in private. Perry decided the budget hearing will be held in open court Thursday.
Perry said he he wanted to know how many hours the defense team's experts will require and if they are willing to abide by the fee schedule set by Florida's Justice Administrative Commission.

Next week, a series of important defense motions will be heard, including a hearing on the trial's location and another to discuss whether evidence can be introduced suggesting the man who discovered Caylee's remain, Roy Kronk, should have been investigated as a possible suspect.
Perry said he also plans to consider a series of defense motions challenging the death penalty.

WESH 2's Bob Kealing said, by next week, followers of the case should expect to know how much money it will cost taxpayers to defend Casey Anthony, where her trial will be held and whether the state can keep pursuing the ultimate punishment against her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 04, 2010, 07:34:49 AM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/05/casey-anthony-big-hearings-in-days-ahead.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29
Casey Anthony: Big hearings in days ahead
Caylee and Casey Anthony, WESH, WFTV, WKCF, WRDQ — posted by halboedeker on May, 3 2010 10:33 PM
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Television stations tonight provided a schedule in the Casey Anthony saga.

WESH-Channel 2, via its 10 p.m. news on WKCF-Channel 18, quickly noted the three hearings coming up in Anthony’s murder case. She is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

Anchor Jim Payne listed the hearings: On Thursday, there’s a hearing on taxpayer money that Anthony will receive for her defense; on next Monday, there’s a hearing on a change of venue; and a week from Tuesday, Chief Judge Belvin Perry will consider a motion that challenges the death penalty in the case.

WFTV-Channel 9, on its 10 p.m. news on WRDQ-Channel 27, reminded viewers that a pretrial hearing will be held Tuesday afternoon in the defamation suit against Anthony. Zenaida Gonzalez is suing Anthony for defamation for linking her to the disappearance of Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 04, 2010, 07:38:57 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/23437124/detail.html
Judge Says Hearing Will Not Be Private
POSTED: 5:03 pm EDT May 3, 2010
UPDATED: 7:04 am EDT May 4, 2010
<snipped>
Judge Belvin Perry finalized a schedule Monday shoehorning three critical hearings in the next eight days.

On Thursday morning, a hearing will be held to talk about how much taxpayer money Anthony should be budgeted to aid in her defense, now that she has been declared indigent.

On Friday, defense attorney Jose Baez asked Perry if the budget concerns will be discussed in private. Perry decided the budget hearing will be held in open court Thursday.

Perry said he also plans to consider a series of defense motions challenging the death penalty.

Meanwhile, Anthony's civil case will be back in court Tuesday. A status hearing is scheduled for the defamation suit brought by the woman Anthony said was Caylee's nanny, Zenaida Gonzalez.
Video:Judge Seeks To Hold Anthony Trial In Orlando  http://www.wesh.com/video/23322836/index.html


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Post by: can on May 04, 2010, 07:43:48 AM
Didn't want to quote stack but re: Caps last response.  If they could begin a campaign bolstered by some quacks on their payroll who VISIT with her and conjure up some obscure mental health syndrome that would encompass her lying, her 'memory block' of a traumatic accident, toss in sexual and mental abuse and present it at last minute as a terrible accident...???  They can't really do it without enlisting her help. She would have to be taught what the new "real" story is, do ya think?

Well, they can try I just do not see that they will succeed by any stretch of the imagination.  Take for example the fact that she had searches on her computer months in advance, or that she made excuses to her friend why the car smelt or why when only faced with being in trouble did she lie about working & tell her tall tale of "Zanny the nanny" at Sawgrass but then changed it to a daytime child abduction in her presence at JBP...that isnt a "memory block" its flat out lying & it will be perceived by the jury as such...no doubt in my mind.   If she had a true "memory block" from a traumatic event she would have had great difficulty remembering things apparent to others nor would she have been able to conjure up all her lies & excuses from the point her mother found her at Tony's until her arrest the next day.  Any attempt by this defense to paint her as a sympathetic victim of some form of abuse or traumatic event will end up being a waste of time, in my view.  If she killed Caylee by any means that could be considered an accident, why would she go thru such great lengths to hide her body?  I'd argue that she would have collapsed with a "block" and scream to ask how her daughter ended up dead at the very location the death occurred.  How would she have had the presence of mind to dispose versus remembering how Caylee was killed yet go thru her single life with not a care in the world thereafter if Caylee's death wasn't intentional?    She didnt appear shaken or skipped a beat, in fact she went and rented movies less than 24 hours of Caylee's estimated death & spent the night boinking Tony.   I contend, traumatized or not she would still feel grief, its obvious she has none by her conduct that entire month.  One would have to ask at this point, so when did Casey conveniently snap out of her "block" in order to now admit she killed Caylee by accident (and yes she would have to admit such) - even so we have to remember that she has a child abuse charge attached to this case, giving a drug or toxic substance to a child for an unprescribed reason and/or amount, is indeed child abuse, death resulting murder.    She's not accused of overdosing her child on cold medicine unintentionally or leaving a bottle of aspirin open for a child to get their hands on, that would be considered negligent homicide or manslaughter.

Thanks for the reply. got kicked out for a bit and then picked up the little gson from preschool.
I know all you said (so well) is the logical rebuttal but with this crew defending her and the latest go-round of privacy motions makes me so suspicious of what kind of malarky they're wanting to pull next.  I think JP will tire quickly of their redundant motions, so we'll see.
To attempt to paint her in any kind of frail, wounded light will fail and for that to happen I really think she'd need to testify and I just don't see that happening.
It would be on the order of the Menedez brothers type of shocker defense which failed them and I don't think they were half the evil she is.   

For what its worth, I've never wavered whatsoever in confidence that no matter what this defense attempts, it will fail.   It begins with Casey not reporting her child missing for 31 days & ends with all her lies.   Well, a ton in between but everyone gets my point.    For example, the jury might ask "Why didnt she care what happened to her car?   She made no effort to find it & had to have known it wasnt where she left it."   OR   "Why did she make up so many stories, if she doesnt remember what happened?   If she was innocent but didnt remember, she wouldnt have offered any elaborate stories, right?"

IMO..the fact that KC did not report her child missing for 31 days (and then only because her Mom ferreted her out of her hidey-hole) tells you everything you need to know.  KC killed her and was hiding from it...stupid to the max...because there was NEVER any way she could get beyond that fact!!  NEVER any way anyone, friends, family, lovers, who would not question what happened.  NEVER!!





 ::rhino:: ::MonkeyCheer4:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: can on May 04, 2010, 07:45:57 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/23437124/detail.html
Judge Says Hearing Will Not Be Private
POSTED: 5:03 pm EDT May 3, 2010
UPDATED: 7:04 am EDT May 4, 2010
<snipped>
Judge Belvin Perry finalized a schedule Monday shoehorning three critical hearings in the next eight days.

On Thursday morning, a hearing will be held to talk about how much taxpayer money Anthony should be budgeted to aid in her defense, now that she has been declared indigent.

On Friday, defense attorney Jose Baez asked Perry if the budget concerns will be discussed in private. Perry decided the budget hearing will be held in open court Thursday.

Perry said he also plans to consider a series of defense motions challenging the death penalty.

Meanwhile, Anthony's civil case will be back in court Tuesday. A status hearing is scheduled for the defamation suit brought by the woman Anthony said was Caylee's nanny, Zenaida Gonzalez.
Video:Judge Seeks To Hold Anthony Trial In Orlando  http://www.wesh.com/video/23322836/index.html

Thanks Trim.  I like the bolded part best.  The hearing will not be private! ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 04, 2010, 08:23:17 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-zenaida-hearing-20100504,0,5781966.story
Casey Anthony: Hearing set for today in defamation case filed by Zenaida Gonzalez
Zenaida Gonzalez says Casey Anthony damaged her reputation.

By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel
7:36 a.m. EDT, May 4, 2010
Attorneys for Casey Anthony are expected in court this afternoon to defend her in a defamation suit.

Anthony is being sued in circuit court in Orange County by Zenaida Gonzalez, a Kissimmee woman who accuses Anthony of damaging her reputation.

Anthony told investigators a baby sitter named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez abducted her daughter, 2-year-old Caylee Marie, in 2008.

Anthony is accused of killing her daughter that year. The baby sitter was never found.

Gonzalez is seeking unspecified damages. She filed suit two years ago, saying she was harmed by Anthony's statement about the baby sitter.

After investigating that claim and many others, authorities charged Anthony with murder. The child's body was found several months later in a patch of woods not far from Anthony's home.

Anthony is now in the Orange County Jail, awaiting trial on a first-degree murder charge. The state is seeking the death penalty.

It's not clear what will happen at the 1:30 p.m. hearing, a routine pretrial conference.

In September, Anthony's attorney, Jonathan Kasen, asked the judge to delay or throw out the civil suit. Anthony shouldn't be placed under oath and required to say whether or not she murdered her child, he argued.

But Gonzalez's attorney later agreed not to ask that question, and Circuit Judge Jose Rodriguez ruled that the case should move forward.

Rene Stutzman can be reached at rstutzman@orlandosentinel.com or 407-650-6394.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 04, 2010, 08:24:44 AM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/05/-a-pretrial-hearing-is.html
WDBO Local News      
Hearing set for Tuesday in Anthony civil suit
By
Marva Hinton
@ May 4, 2010 7:08 AM Permalink | Comments (0)
A pre-trial hearing is set for Tuesday afternoon in the civil suit against Casey Anthony.
Zenaida Gonzalez is suing the accused child killer for defamation. She says Casey damaged her reputation when she told authorities a woman who shares her name kidnapped Caylee. Gonzalez was questioned and cleared in the case but says she lost her job and was forced to move after the allegations were made. She's seeking punitive damages. Keith Mitnik is one of her attorneys.

"For example, if [Casey] happened to be found not guilty so that she could write a book and make money, we'll be chasing her for 20 years if we win the verdict," said Mitnik. "It's about accountability for what you did. It's about retribution for what you did, and punitive damages allow you to bring about civil punishment for a wrong."

Casey's civil attorney, Jonathan Kassan, argues that the case has no merit.

"Ms. Anthony has already cleared this woman," said Kassan. "Just because you share a common name with an individual doesn't mean you're disparaged. You can only harm an individual that you have contact with and that you know, and in this case neither applies."

Kassan has tried repeatedly to have this case dismissed, but he's been turned down every time.

This case has turned ugly in the past. During a deposition, Cindy Anthony, insulted Gonzalez when she said there was no way that she could have been Caylee's nanny.

"She doesn't have perfect teeth," said Cindy. "She's not a ten. I'm sorry, m'am. You're cute, but you're not a ten."

But Casey's mother also admitted that she had never met the woman who was supposedly Caylee's babysitter.
If Gonzalez wins this case, getting any money from Casey could be difficult. She's already been declared indigent in her criminal trial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 04, 2010, 08:38:28 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
Curious Questions about Casey’s Cash Flow

Posted on May 4th, 2010 by Valhall


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 04, 2010, 09:04:46 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
Curious Questions about Casey’s Cash Flow

Posted on May 4th, 2010 by Valhall

Good Morning Monks...thanks trim....as usual s super article by Val.   I was not aware one could get a dual credit card.....ie the Sears/Visa card discussed in the article.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on May 04, 2010, 09:14:37 AM
Good morning, Monkeys!  ::MonkeyBike::
Quick question for you all...Saw on the Orange County Clerk of Courts that there is a "joint motion for a continuance" in Casey's civil case, filed today.

05/04/2010     Motion for Continuance
JOINT Motion for Continuance 


Any idea on what this means?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on May 04, 2010, 09:16:04 AM
Oh, another question...Does Casey have to appear in court for the civil case, just as she does in the criminal one?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 04, 2010, 09:17:44 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=1450829
05/04/2010           Pre-Trial Civil  (1:30 PM) (Judicial Officer Rodriguez, Jose R)
05/04/2010           Motion for Continuance
JOINT Motion for Continuance


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 04, 2010, 09:18:40 AM
Monka!   ::MonkeyCheer4::  I think there will be no hearing today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on May 04, 2010, 09:29:08 AM
Monka!   ::MonkeyCheer4::  I think there will be no hearing today.
No hearing?  Do you think that there's going to be a settlement?  That makes me sad, I wanted to hear from some of the people on Morgan's witness list...Mallory P., for example.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 04, 2010, 09:42:18 AM
Monka!   ::MonkeyCheer4::  I think there will be no hearing today.
Thank-you  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on May 04, 2010, 09:54:42 AM
Monka!   ::MonkeyCheer4::  I think there will be no hearing today.
::MonkeyEek:: What the ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 04, 2010, 09:56:59 AM
Monka!   ::MonkeyCheer4::  I think there will be no hearing today.
No hearing?  Do you think that there's going to be a settlement?  That makes me sad, I wanted to hear from some of the people on Morgan's witness list...Mallory P., for example.
If they were smart there would be a settlement, imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on May 04, 2010, 10:09:49 AM
Monka!   ::MonkeyCheer4::  I think there will be no hearing today.
No hearing?  Do you think that there's going to be a settlement?  That makes me sad, I wanted to hear from some of the people on Morgan's witness list...Mallory P., for example.
If they were smart there would be a settlement, imo.
I agree.  However, that whole "smart" thing...I don't know, it's the Anthonys, after all.
 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 04, 2010, 10:10:24 AM
Monka!   ::MonkeyCheer4::  I think there will be no hearing today.
No hearing?  Do you think that there's going to be a settlement?  That makes me sad, I wanted to hear from some of the people on Morgan's witness list...Mallory P., for example.

Morning Monka..............sounds like a settlement to me, which is not surprising. No way is the DUHfence going to go through with a trial on this....as with the check fraud case.....Déjà vu...JMO of course...no crystal balls, no special talents, no previous predictions, ............JMO!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 04, 2010, 10:11:43 AM
Monka!   ::MonkeyCheer4::  I think there will be no hearing today.
No hearing?  Do you think that there's going to be a settlement?  That makes me sad, I wanted to hear from some of the people on Morgan's witness list...Mallory P., for example.
If they were smart there would be a settlement, imo.
I agree.  However, that whole "smart" thing...I don't know, it's the Anthonys, after all.
 ::MonkeyDevil::

Monka ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 04, 2010, 10:18:54 AM
Monka!   ::MonkeyCheer4::  I think there will be no hearing today.
No hearing?  Do you think that there's going to be a settlement?  That makes me sad, I wanted to hear from some of the people on Morgan's witness list...Mallory P., for example.
If they were smart there would be a settlement, imo.
I agree.  However, that whole "smart" thing...I don't know, it's the Anthonys, after all.
 ::MonkeyDevil::

Monka ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::
True, but even they can't be that blasted dumb.  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 04, 2010, 10:19:38 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=1450829
05/04/2010           Pre-Trial Civil  (1:30 PM) (Judicial Officer Rodriguez, Jose R)
05/04/2010           Motion for Continuance
JOINT Motion for Continuance

This is asking for the hearing or the trial itself be postponed.   If both sides agree there is no reason to rule but if one side doesnt the judge will rule.    In this case, a Joint Motion for Continuance may indicate that both Casey & the Anthonys have filed for continuance.     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 04, 2010, 10:31:10 AM
I haven't heard anything as of late regarding the A's foreclosure...so thought I'd check and see if there was anything new

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=532446

I got side tracked a bit with this....

 Case No. 2002-CC-008249-O
PINE VIEW APARTMENTS LTP, vs. ANTHONY, CYNTHIA M   §
   
Case Type:   CC - Eviction
Date Filed:   06/18/2002
Location:   Div 73
Judicial Officer:   Higbee, Heather L
Uniform Case Number:   482002CC008249A001OX

LOL...got back on track......

 Case No. 2010-CA-004872-O
BANK OF AMERICA NA vs. ANTHONY, CYNTHIA Met al.   §
§
§
§
§
§
§
   
Case Type:   CA - Homestead Residential Foreclosure Btwn $50,001-$249,999
Date Filed:   02/22/2010
Location:   Div 37
Judicial Officer:   O'Kane, Julie H
Uniform Case Number:   482010CA004872A001OX
Party Information
   
Lead Attorneys
Defendant
   ANTHONY, CYNTHIA M
         LIPPMAN, MARK R, Esquire
 
Retained

407-648-4213(W)
 
Defendant
   ANTHONY, GEORGE A
  Also known as  ANTHONY, GEORGE
         LIPPMAN, MARK R, Esquire
 
Retained

407-648-4213(W)
 
Defendant
   CHICKASAW OAKS PHASE THREE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION INC
         WONSETLER, KAREN J, Esquire
 
Retained

407-770-0846(W)
 
Defendant
   STATE OF FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE
         
 
Defendant
   UNITED GUARANTY RESIDENTIAL INSURACE COMPANY OF NORTH CAROLAINA
         
 
Defendant
   UNKNOWN PARTIES IN POSSESSION 1
         
 
Defendant
   UNKNOWN PARTIES IN POSSESSION 2
         
 
Plaintiff
   BANK OF AMERICA NA
         SMITH, CRAIG T, Esquire
 
Retained

813-880-8888(W)
Events & Orders of the Court
            OTHER EVENTS AND HEARINGS
02/22/2010           Lis Pendens
02/22/2010           Complaint
02/22/2010           Value of Real Property/Mortgage Foreclosure Claim Form
02/22/2010           Civil Cover Sheet
02/25/2010           Summons Issued
issued summons 2/25/2010. original to andrews agency.
02/25/2010           Summons Issued
issued summons 2/25/2010. original to andrews agency.
02/25/2010           Summons Issued
issued summons 2/25/2010. original to andrews agency.
02/25/2010           Summons Issued
40 days - issued summons 2/25/2010. original to andrews agency.
02/25/2010           Summons Issued
issued summons 2/25/2010. original to andrews agency.
02/25/2010           Summons Issued
issued summons 2/25/2010. original to andrews agency.
02/25/2010           Summons Issued
issued summons 2/25/2010. original to andrews agency.
03/09/2010           Summons Returned Unserved
03/09/2010           Summons Returned Unserved
03/09/2010           Summons Returned Served
03/09/2010           Summons Returned Served
sub cynthia anthony spouse
03/09/2010           Summons Returned Served
03/09/2010           Summons Returned Served
03/09/2010           Summons Returned Served
03/10/2010           Affirmative Defenses
Affirmative Defenses NOTICE OF APPEARANCE
03/10/2010           Motion for Mediation
Motion for Mediation
03/10/2010           Request for Documents
Request for Documents
03/17/2010           Answer & Affirmative Defenses
03/23/2010           Motion
Motion FOR EXTENSION OF TIME
03/23/2010           Motion
Motion TO STRIKE DEMAND FOR JURY TRIAL
03/25/2010           Petition/Motion to Strike
03/25/2010           Motion for Enlargement/Extension of Time
03/29/2010           Notice of Hearing
Notice of Hearing
03/31/2010           Notice of Hearing
6/23/2010 @ 9:45 am
04/13/2010           Motion for Default
Motion for Default
04/13/2010           Notice of Dropping Parties
Notice of Dropping Parties UPP1, UPP2
04/14/2010           Default Entered by the Clerk
Default Entered by Clerk AS TO UNITED GUARANTY RESIDENTIAL INSURACE COMPANY OF NORTH CAROLAINA &...






Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 04, 2010, 10:34:49 AM
Hmmm, all the other local news have not updated but OS as in the above linked article updated their story on the civil case hearing as if it were still scheduled
By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel
8:34 a.m. EDT, May 4, 2010

This may be an oversight, not sure


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 04, 2010, 11:00:33 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

Interesting about the default  and foreclosure.  Looks to me like the A's decided they'd rather be homeless then have anything to give to ZFG.  Sure looks that way to me.
Wonder how much moola has made its way into George's Mom's bank account for safe keeping?

Can one file a motion of continuance on the day of the hearing?  I mean that doesn't give the judge much leadway to repurpose the courtroom, the clerk, etc?  Seems like a huge waste of time, people and money to me.  Wait..it is the A family..that's what they do for goodness sake.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 04, 2010, 11:11:59 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

Interesting about the default  and foreclosure.  Looks to me like the A's decided they'd rather be homeless then have anything to give to ZFG.  Sure looks that way to me.
Wonder how much moola has made its way into George's Mom's bank account for safe keeping?

Can one file a motion of continuance on the day of the hearing?  I mean that doesn't give the judge much leadway to repurpose the courtroom, the clerk, etc?  Seems like a huge waste of time, people and money to me.  Wait..it is the A family..that's what they do for goodness sake.
Very interesting about the default and foreclosure. And I'm willing to bet George's mommies account has quite a bit of money in there for safe keeping  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cookie on May 04, 2010, 11:12:56 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

Interesting about the default  and foreclosure.  Looks to me like the A's decided they'd rather be homeless then have anything to give to ZFG.  Sure looks that way to me.
Wonder how much moola has made its way into George's Mom's bank account for safe keeping?

Can one file a motion of continuance on the day of the hearing?  I mean that doesn't give the judge much leadway to repurpose the courtroom, the clerk, etc?  Seems like a huge waste of time, people and money to me.  Wait..it is the A family..that's what they do for goodness sake.
Very interesting about the default and foreclosure. And I'm willing to bet George's mommies account has quite a bit of money in there for safe keeping  ::MonkeyNoNo::

yeppers!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 04, 2010, 11:22:03 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

Interesting about the default  and foreclosure.  Looks to me like the A's decided they'd rather be homeless then have anything to give to ZFG.  Sure looks that way to me.
Wonder how much moola has made its way into George's Mom's bank account for safe keeping?

Can one file a motion of continuance on the day of the hearing?  I mean that doesn't give the judge much leadway to repurpose the courtroom, the clerk, etc?  Seems like a huge waste of time, people and money to me.  Wait..it is the A family..that's what they do for goodness sake.
Very interesting about the default and foreclosure. And I'm willing to bet George's mommies account has quite a bit of money in there for safe keeping  ::MonkeyNoNo::

yeppers!



Sniped

03/31/2010           Notice of Hearing
6/23/2010 @ 9:45 am
04/13/2010           Motion for Default
Motion for Default
04/13/2010           Notice of Dropping Parties
Notice of Dropping Parties UPP1, UPP2
04/14/2010           Default Entered by the Clerk
Default Entered by Clerk AS TO UNITED GUARANTY RESIDENTIAL INSURACE COMPANY OF NORTH CAROLAINA &...


The default appears to have been entered on the mortgage insurance company for non response or appearance.    There is a June date listed after the Notice of Hearing, so that may mean it is a new date set for hearing.   The dropping parties appear to be unknown defendants NOT the Anthonys, see here:

Defendant
   UNKNOWN PARTIES IN POSSESSION 1
         

Defendant
   UNKNOWN PARTIES IN POSSESSION 2


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 04, 2010, 11:37:41 AM
I called the OS & left a message with Renee Stutzman about the Notice for Continuance, the article has been just updated to read:

Casey Anthony: Hearing set for today in defamation case filed by Zenaida Gonzalez
Zenaida Gonzalez says Casey Anthony damaged her reputation.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-zenaida-hearing-20100504,0,5781966.story

Attorneys for Casey Anthony are expected in court this afternoon to defend her in a defamation suit.

Anthony is being sued in circuit court in Orange County by Zenaida Gonzalez, a Kissimmee woman who accuses Anthony of damaging her reputation.

Anthony told investigators a baby sitter named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez abducted her daughter, 2-year-old Caylee Marie, in 2008.

Anthony is accused of killing her daughter that year. The baby sitter was never found and authorities believe she does not exist.

Gonzalez is seeking unspecified damages. She filed suit two years ago, saying she was harmed by Anthony's statement about the baby sitter.

After investigating that claim and many others, authorities charged Anthony with murder. The child's body was found several months later in a patch of woods not far from Anthony's home.

Anthony is now in the Orange County Jail, awaiting trial on a first-degree murder charge. The state is seeking the death penalty.

The hearing at 1:30 p.m. is a routine pretrial conference.  The attorneys on both sides plan to ask Orange Circuit Court Judge Jose R. Rodriguez for more time to prepare for trial.

In September, Anthony's attorney, Jonathan Kasen, asked the judge to delay or throw out the civil suit. Anthony shouldn't be placed under oath and required to say whether or not she murdered her child, he argued.

But Gonzalez's attorney later agreed not to ask that question, and Rodriguez ruled that the case should move forward.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on May 04, 2010, 11:56:50 AM
So, is there a continuance or not?
The OS is usually way behind everyone else from what I've observed.

I wonder how long they can keep postponing the civil case?
It seems kind of short notice to be filing for a continuance hours before a scheduled hearing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: bluesuave on May 04, 2010, 11:59:15 AM
why is Laura Buchanan significant to this case?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 04, 2010, 12:04:18 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
Curious Questions about Casey’s Cash Flow

Posted on May 4th, 2010 by Valhall

Good Morning Monks...thanks trim....as usual s super article by Val.   I was not aware one could get a dual credit card.....ie the Sears/Visa card discussed in the article.

It is a Sears brand card, but it is a regular Visa you can use anywhere. All it is is just a gold or platinum Visa.  I don't know about JCP but I do know about the Sears one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 04, 2010, 12:25:25 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23446867/detail.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Hearing Set In Casey Anthony Civil Case
Zenaida Gonzalez Seeks $15,000 In Damages

POSTED: Tuesday, May 4, 2010
UPDATED: 11:52 am EDT May 4, 2010
Casey Anthony Hearing
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A hearing is scheduled for Tuesday afternoon in Casey Anthony's civil case, although Anthony will not attend.
Zenaida Gonzalez filed a defamation lawsuit against Anthony, claiming she ruined her reputation by linking her to the disappearance of Anthony's daughter, Caylee.

Anthony told authorities in 2008 that she left her daughter with a baby sitter named Zenaida Gonzlalez and the two were gone when she went to pick up her daughter.

Anthony, 24, was charged in the death of Caylee, whose remains were found in a wooded lot in Orange County in December 2008. Anthony has pleaded not guilty and remains jailed on first-degree murder charges.

It's possible that a trial date will be set in the civil case.

Gonzalez is seeking more than $15,000 in damages.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 04, 2010, 12:27:10 PM
why is Laura Buchanan significant to this case?
WELCOME  ::MonkeyCool::   I must be having some thought difficulties, can someone refresh me who Laura Buchanan is?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 04, 2010, 12:29:06 PM
So, is there a continuance or not?
The OS is usually way behind everyone else from what I've observed.

I wonder how long they can keep postponing the civil case?
It seems kind of short notice to be filing for a continuance hours before a scheduled hearing.

Curly, yes the hearing is still on.  Both sides are expected to ask for a continuous on when the trial will start.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: bluesuave on May 04, 2010, 12:30:03 PM
someone seaching with the group called TES


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 04, 2010, 12:30:23 PM
So, is there a continuance or not?
The OS is usually way behind everyone else from what I've observed.

I wonder how long they can keep postponing the civil case?
It seems kind of short notice to be filing for a continuance hours before a scheduled hearing.

Curly, yes the hearing is still on.  Both sides are expected to ask for a continuous on when the trial will start.
Thank-you, right now I'm so confused with all this. You would think both sides had plenty of time  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 04, 2010, 12:36:03 PM
why is Laura Buchanan significant to this case?
WELCOME  ::MonkeyCool::   I must be having some thought difficulties, can someone refresh me who Laura Buchanan is?  ::MonkeyEek::

Laura Buchanan in a sworn statement claims that she was a searcher in the area where Caylee was found, and she wasnt there on 9/3/08.  She stated:   "On Sept. 3, 2008... I personally searched near the privacy fence and worked my way towards, and then the spot, where the body was found. I did not notice anything unusual. I did not notice a strange smell. I noticed no buzzards, nor unusual animal or insect activity. It is my opinion that the remains of Caylee Anthony were not there during the time of our search."

To this I say, and so what?   The water level, thickness of brush - not a surprise.   She has NO WAY of knowing what the "exact" spot is, first of all.   I truly believe that the animal & plant life will indicate strongly that the body was placed there in June within a 2-3 week time period & that the water level evidence of that period of time will discredit her, "ray of sunshine, not" and whoever claims otherwise.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 04, 2010, 12:37:57 PM
why is Laura Buchanan significant to this case?
WELCOME  ::MonkeyCool::   I must be having some thought difficulties, can someone refresh me who Laura Buchanan is?  ::MonkeyEek::

Laura Buchanan in a sworn statement claims that she was a searcher in the area where Caylee was found, and she wasnt there on 9/3/08.  She stated:   "On Sept. 3, 2008... I personally searched near the privacy fence and worked my way towards, and then the spot, where the body was found. I did not notice anything unusual. I did not notice a strange smell. I noticed no buzzards, nor unusual animal or insect activity. It is my opinion that the remains of Caylee Anthony were not there during the time of our search."

To this I say, and so what?   The water level, thickness of brush - not a surprise.   She has NO WAY of knowing what the "exact" spot is, first of all.   I truly believe that the animal & plant life will indicate strongly that the body was placed there in June within a 2-3 week time period & that the water level evidence of that period of time will discredit her, "ray of sunshine, not" and whoever claims otherwise.
Thank-you, of course that is who she is, I'm just not thinking clearly today, sorry.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 04, 2010, 12:38:14 PM
So, is there a continuance or not?
The OS is usually way behind everyone else from what I've observed.

I wonder how long they can keep postponing the civil case?
It seems kind of short notice to be filing for a continuance hours before a scheduled hearing.

Curly, yes the hearing is still on.  Both sides are expected to ask for a continuous on when the trial will start.
Thank-you, right now I'm so confused with all this. You would think both sides had plenty of time  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Even the Plaintiff may have new witnesses to depose or something of that nature that would require more time.   I see no news that it will be carried live, I'll look after noon to see if there are any updates.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 04, 2010, 12:41:37 PM
Thank-you  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on May 04, 2010, 12:42:43 PM
So, is there a continuance or not?
The OS is usually way behind everyone else from what I've observed.

I wonder how long they can keep postponing the civil case?
It seems kind of short notice to be filing for a continuance hours before a scheduled hearing.

Curly, yes the hearing is still on.  Both sides are expected to ask for a continuous on when the trial will start.

Ok, thanks Capp. I'll catch it later when it's released. Have a dr.s appt. It is sooooooooo hot here. I was out for 10 minutes and I'm dying already and it's only May.

They want to postpone this civil case until after the criminal case if at all possible. I understand their reasoning, it's just a letdown.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 04, 2010, 12:45:41 PM
Watch it Live
Anthony civil suit pre-trial at 1:30PM
Casey Anthony civil suit pre-trial

Updated: Tuesday, 04 May 2010, 12:37 PM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 04 May 2010, 12:22 PM EDT

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - The case against suspected child killer Casey Anthony returns to court.

A hearing scheduled for today, Tuesday, May 4th at 1:30 p.m. will focus on the civil case involving Zenaida Gonzalez.

Gonzalez is suing Casey for defamation after Casey Anthony claimed a woman with the same name kidnapped her daughter Caylee.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/news


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 04, 2010, 12:48:21 PM
Watch it Live
Anthony civil suit pre-trial at 1:30PM
Casey Anthony civil suit pre-trial

Updated: Tuesday, 04 May 2010, 12:37 PM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 04 May 2010, 12:22 PM EDT

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - The case against suspected child killer Casey Anthony returns to court.

A hearing scheduled for today, Tuesday, May 4th at 1:30 p.m. will focus on the civil case involving Zenaida Gonzalez.

Gonzalez is suing Casey for defamation after Casey Anthony claimed a woman with the same name kidnapped her daughter Caylee.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/news


Thank you "link lady"  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 04, 2010, 12:50:26 PM
Yes, thank-you Trimm  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on May 04, 2010, 12:53:48 PM
Watch it Live
Anthony civil suit pre-trial at 1:30PM
Casey Anthony civil suit pre-trial

Updated: Tuesday, 04 May 2010, 12:37 PM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 04 May 2010, 12:22 PM EDT

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - The case against suspected child killer Casey Anthony returns to court.

A hearing scheduled for today, Tuesday, May 4th at 1:30 p.m. will focus on the civil case involving Zenaida Gonzalez.

Gonzalez is suing Casey for defamation after Casey Anthony claimed a woman with the same name kidnapped her daughter Caylee.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/news
Thank you for the updates Trimm  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 04, 2010, 01:16:38 PM
Good afternoon Monkeys and guest!

Trimm and others....thank you so much for all the links you guys post. It makes it so much easier to get caught up when real life intrudes. I haven't had time to comment much, but I do read to get caught up everynight.

I am looking forward to the hearings Thursday, Monday and Tuesday. I think I am really going to like this new Judge. This case should have already been tried and done with.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 04, 2010, 01:22:07 PM
Did I run everyone off? ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on May 04, 2010, 01:23:47 PM
Good afternoon Monkeys and guest!

Trimm and others....thank you so much for all the links you guys post. It makes it so much easier to get caught up when real life intrudes. I haven't had time to comment much, but I do read to get caught up everynight.

I am looking forward to the hearings Thursday, Monday and Tuesday. I think I am really going to like this new Judge. This case should have already been tried and done with.
Hi Darla, good to see you.  I am going to miss all 3 hearings this week as I will be enroute to work - Ugggh.  I will have to either go to work early, late or watch them after, this working is getting in the way of my ability to blog.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 04, 2010, 01:23:48 PM
Did I run everyone off? ::MonkeyShocked::
Hi Darla ... looks like they are having a problem connection wise on Fox Orlando



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 04, 2010, 01:29:33 PM
Hi Mission and Deenie, I sure hope they get the feed to working. Got to pick up two of the grandkids at school two pm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 04, 2010, 01:30:49 PM
Live feed no sound

http://www.wftv.com/video/23448226/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on May 04, 2010, 01:30:51 PM
Streaming here
http://www.wftv.com/video/23448226/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 04, 2010, 01:31:53 PM
Did I run everyone off? ::MonkeyShocked::
No  ::MonkeyCool::  you are right this trial should have been done awhile ago  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Protect the little babies on May 04, 2010, 01:32:24 PM
 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyWink::

Hello monkeys,,,they are showing the Civil hearing hear... ::piggy:: ::piggy::

http://www.wftv.com/video/23448226/index.html

 ::piggy:: ::piggy::  ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 04, 2010, 01:32:52 PM
WFTV   has live link up now

http://www.wftv.com/video/23448226/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 04, 2010, 01:34:24 PM
I think the news station all broke in with the arrest of the Time Square bomber.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 04, 2010, 01:36:07 PM
Just not my day  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I've downloaded what was needed but can't see the hearing, oh well  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on May 04, 2010, 01:38:11 PM
Just not my day  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I've downloaded what was needed but can't see the hearing, oh well  ::MonkeyShocked::
NoRose try closing out of your browser and go back in - should work.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 04, 2010, 01:38:47 PM
Just not my day  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I've downloaded what was needed but can't see the hearing, oh well  ::MonkeyShocked::
NoRose try closing out of your browser and go back in - should work.
Thanks, I'll try  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 04, 2010, 01:40:50 PM
Just not my day  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I've downloaded what was needed but can't see the hearing, oh well  ::MonkeyShocked::
NoRose try closing out of your browser and go back in - should work.

Live stream on WESH  - " No Sound yet "
http://www.wesh.com/video/23449020/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 04, 2010, 01:41:48 PM
WFTV has picture but no sound Fox has stripes. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: chocolatetyh34 on May 04, 2010, 01:42:07 PM
Good afternoon all, Hope all is well with everyone today!
 Is it just me,... not able to hear the hearing?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 04, 2010, 01:42:31 PM
Did I run everyone off? ::MonkeyShocked::

Hey Darla.My phone rang.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 04, 2010, 01:44:19 PM
Nope no sound


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 04, 2010, 01:44:52 PM
WFTV has sound now!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 04, 2010, 01:45:22 PM
I don't get what I'm doing wrong, shut all browsers, what is that? I think I'll just go back to bed  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 04, 2010, 01:46:32 PM
I don't get what I'm doing wrong, shut all browsers, what is that? I think I'll just go back to bed  ::MonkeyHaHa::
NoRose try restarting your computer ...maybe that will work :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on May 04, 2010, 01:46:41 PM
Well now wasn't that informative.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 04, 2010, 01:47:11 PM
Well, geez whiz wasnt that informative  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Guess we'll have to wait for news reports as to what happened.   Sounds like they were adjusting the trial date.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 04, 2010, 01:47:42 PM
Well, geez whiz wasnt that informative  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Guess we'll have to wait for news reports as to what happened.   Sounds like they were adjusting the trial date.

What a disappointment.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 04, 2010, 01:47:44 PM
Holy cow Mission  Look ^    that is too funny!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 04, 2010, 01:47:52 PM
Oh well it is over now.....Hi trimm and Capp. Sorry about your Mother-in-law Capp.

They didn't get sound til it was over almost.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on May 04, 2010, 01:48:43 PM
I don't get what I'm doing wrong, shut all browsers, what is that? I think I'll just go back to bed  ::MonkeyHaHa::
::MonkeyHaHa:: Browser is for instance Internet Explorer or Firefox, whatever you use to get on the internet.  I am with Deenie - do a restart.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NM on May 04, 2010, 01:48:52 PM
I don't get what I'm doing wrong, shut all browsers, what is that? I think I'll just go back to bed  ::MonkeyHaHa::
::MonkeyHaHa::kinda like a human-reboot


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 04, 2010, 01:49:28 PM
Well now wasn't that informative.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I missed it all.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 04, 2010, 01:49:33 PM
Oh well it is over now.....Hi trimm and Capp. Sorry about your Mother-in-law Capp.

They didn't get sound til it was over almost.

Thank you Darla.   You monkeys sure do know how to get someone thru a difficult time, much appreciated!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 04, 2010, 01:49:34 PM
Well, geez whiz wasnt that informative  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Guess we'll have to wait for news reports as to what happened.   Sounds like they were adjusting the trial date.

What a disappointment.

Had time to grab just ONE screen shot LOL

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image32-3.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on May 04, 2010, 01:50:13 PM
Holy cow Mission  Look ^    that is too funny!
::MonkeyHaHa:: That is way funny - great minds think alike!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 04, 2010, 01:50:15 PM
I don't get what I'm doing wrong, shut all browsers, what is that? I think I'll just go back to bed  ::MonkeyHaHa::

No Rose, I had the same problem when I started out with the new computer. You have to download a couple of things in order to get the Live feeds, I remember having to download Flash and Media Player. I think that is right!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 04, 2010, 01:50:29 PM
Glad there was nothing to miss  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NM on May 04, 2010, 01:52:19 PM
Well now wasn't that informative.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
What exactly was that!

By the time I got to WFTV which really did have live feed, unlike myfoxorlando, I saw a white haired lawyer and judge talking about back log from a 3 week trial and when the judge puts a case on the docket something, something, not far to other cases back logged, then take down the feed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 04, 2010, 01:53:06 PM
Geez..I blinked and missed the entire hearing?  Was hoping to hear sweet Mr Morgan's charming voice today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 04, 2010, 01:53:43 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
Curious Questions about Casey’s Cash Flow

Posted on May 4th, 2010 by Valhall

Good Morning Monks...thanks trim....as usual s super article by Val.   I was not aware one could get a dual credit card.....ie the Sears/Visa card discussed in the article.

It is a Sears brand card, but it is a regular Visa you can use anywhere. All it is is just a gold or platinum Visa.  I don't know about JCP but I do know about the Sears one.

thanks Turbo....I learn something new everyday.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 04, 2010, 01:54:57 PM
why is Laura Buchanan significant to this case?

hi blue......Welcome to SM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 04, 2010, 01:55:08 PM
What I gathered from the judge speaking at the end is that he had a trial that lasted 3 weeks and he is behind on his backlog and it may be later before he can get ZFG's trial on the docket. That is about all that was said after the sound came on.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 04, 2010, 01:56:41 PM
Well now wasn't that informative.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
What exactly was that!

By the time I got to WFTV which really did have live feed, unlike myfoxorlando, I saw a white haired lawyer and judge talking about back log from a 3 week trial and when the judge puts a case on the docket something, something, not far to other cases back logged, then take down the feed.

OK from the two sentences I did hear, it sounded like Keith wanted to bump up the date, but the judge couldnt due to his calendar.   Now, this part is an assumption by me but I think from what we gleaned from this morning both sides wanted an extension for when the trial would start, from there I'm thinking they set a date but the Plaintiff was hoping it would be sooner than Judge Rodriguez had available.    Not sure, we'll have to wait for local news to report what happened....grrr!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 04, 2010, 01:56:55 PM
The only thing I heard Judge say was something about a meeting May 14th and to focus on __________???
He talks like a pansy a$$.....wasn't he voted as worst judge?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 04, 2010, 02:00:42 PM
Seeme, he sounds just like that judge in the Anna Nicole Smith trial. OK got to run get the rugrats from school.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 04, 2010, 02:01:18 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/5/4/caseys_defamation_case_heads_to_court.html
 Casey’s Defamation Case Heads To Court
Tuesday, May 04, 2010 1:54:29 PM
Reported by Jacqueline Fell

ORLANDO -- Casey Anthony is expected in court Tuesday afternoon to face off against Zenaida Gonzalez, a woman who says Anthony accused of her of kidnapping Caylee Anthony.

Gonzalez is suing Casey Anthony for defamation.

Anthony said a woman by the same name kidnapped her daughter in the summer of 2008.

Gonzalez said Anthony ruined her life.

The two will meet at a pretrial conference, where it’s unclear what will happen.

Anthony's attorneys tried fighting to get the case thrown out or at least delayed until after the criminal case moves forward

However, Judge Rodriguez said the civil suit must go on.

This case is no stranger to drama.

You may remember the heated depositions of Cindy and George Anthony taken at Morgan and Morgan where both Gonzalez's attorneys and the Anthonys went back and forth in argument.
Cindy said there was no way this Zenaida was "Zanny the Nanny."

Law enforcement officials have said in the past there is no real Zenaida.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 04, 2010, 02:01:42 PM
Has she filed for indigence in this case?  Seems if she is broke for Bobo she could not afford this lawyer either?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 04, 2010, 02:02:19 PM
Has she filed for indigence in this case?  Seems if she is broke for Bobo she could not afford this lawyer either?

Oooooooo    Very interesting!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 04, 2010, 02:05:08 PM
https://twitter.com/CaseyAnthonyCh9

#    No one had audio and the hearing is already over. Trying to find out what happened from Kathi Belich who was in attendance.     16 minutes ago  via web   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 04, 2010, 02:07:39 PM
Has she filed for indigence in this case?  Seems if she is broke for Bobo she could not afford this lawyer either?

Oooooooo    Very interesting!

Contemplating whether JAC might be interested in hearing that little tidbit to inquire about....hmm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 04, 2010, 02:09:02 PM
What I gathered from the judge speaking at the end is that he had a trial that lasted 3 weeks and he is behind on his backlog and it may be later before he can get ZFG's trial on the docket. That is about all that was said after the sound came on.


Hi Darla and thanks.by the time I got home it was over already....but it looks like I didn't miss much...........got stuck by 2 trains on the way home.... ::MonkeyMad::.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 04, 2010, 02:10:12 PM
Has she filed for indigence in this case?  Seems if she is broke for Bobo she could not afford this lawyer either?

good question NR......and was this attorney paid from the money BOZO got?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 04, 2010, 02:11:08 PM
Well now wasn't that informative.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I missed it all.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::    Me too ....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 04, 2010, 02:12:31 PM
I don't get what I'm doing wrong, shut all browsers, what is that? I think I'll just go back to bed  ::MonkeyHaHa::

No Rose, I had the same problem when I started out with the new computer. You have to download a couple of things in order to get the Live feeds, I remember having to download Flash and Media Player. I think that is right!
Thank-you that is why I'm confused, my daughter did that for me, and every was going along fine until today. I asked her to see what happened when she gets home. Luckily there wasn't much that happened.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 04, 2010, 02:13:37 PM
What I gathered from the judge speaking at the end is that he had a trial that lasted 3 weeks and he is behind on his backlog and it may be later before he can get ZFG's trial on the docket. That is about all that was said after the sound came on.

Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 04, 2010, 02:13:56 PM
Thanks for all the links & updates.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 04, 2010, 02:14:09 PM
just tweeted by Terry Lenamon

http://www.deathpenaltyblog.com/casey-anthony-case-continues-to-teach-public-on-indigent-death-penalty-defense-costs-public-hearing-on-may-6/index.html

 Posted on May 4, 2010 by Terry Lenamon
 
There's a new judge in the Casey Anthony case -- Judge Belvin Perry -- and he looks to be running a tight ship.  Despite defense counsel requests that hearings on defense costs be private, Judge Perry has ordered that an upcoming hearing on how Casey Anthony's defense will be funded is to be a public hearing.

May 6, 2010, Hearing on Indigent Defense Costs for Casey Anthony Will Be Public

That's right:  anyone interested in hearing the details on how the defense of Casey Anthony in the trial of whether or not she murdered her daughter, and whether or not the State of Florida should execute her for that crime (if found guilty) will be PUBLIC.

Which, given the media coverage of the Casey Anthony case, means there will be countless news reports giving the financial details of this death penalty defense.

What Is Expected to Happen at the Casey Anthony Budget Hearing

At Thursday's budget hearing, Judge Perry expects to hear an estimate from the defense team on the number of hours their experts will need.  The Judge has also stated that he will want to know if the experts are willing to work under the fee schedule set by Florida's Justice Administrative Commission.  (Read the Scheduling Order here.)

The public will soon glimpse into the practicalities of defending someone who's facing the death penalty in Florida.  Experts -- and their hourly rates -- will be revealed, and discussed from a budgetary standpoint.
The JAC Fee Schedule Will Be Discussed - Hopefully, Part of the Indigent Defense Crisis Will Be Seen
The JAC fee schedule will be a subject of discussion, too.  Perhaps Judge Perry should review JAC v. Lenamon before the hearing on Thursday -- because the JAC has proven itself all too willing to appeal the decisions of trial judges that seek to be fair and reasonable in this area.
The experts needed for both the guilt phase and the penalty phase of any death penalty defense case are varied in their special knowledge and expertise and far from inexpensive due to their education and experience.  Their standard hourly rates will not jive with the JAC schedule.

With the hearing on May 6th, hopefully more people will become aware of the practical realities of indigent defense representation Florida and elsewhere.  Will the experts work for less than their standard rate?  How low does the State of Florida (through the JAC) expect doctors, psychiatrists, forensic specialists, etc., to charge?   Hopefully, the public will see some of these questions answered



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 04, 2010, 02:16:11 PM
Interesting Deenie  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 04, 2010, 02:16:39 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23446867/detail.html
Hearing Held In Casey Anthony Civil Case
Zenaida Gonzalez Seeks $15,000 In Damages

POSTED: Tuesday, May 4, 2010
UPDATED: 2:01 pm EDT May 4, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A hearing was held Tuesday afternoon in Casey Anthony's civil case, although Anthony was not required to attend.
Zenaida Gonzalez filed a defamation lawsuit against Anthony, claiming she ruined her reputation by linking her to the disappearance of Anthony's daughter, Caylee.

ClickOrlando.com streamed the hearing, but there was no audio provided, so details are yet known. Stay with ClickOrlando.com and Local 6 for more on this story.

Anthony told authorities in 2008 that she left her daughter with a baby sitter named Zenaida Gonzlalez and the two were gone when she went to pick up her daughter.

Anthony, 24, was charged in the death of Caylee, whose remains were found in a wooded lot in Orange County in December 2008. Anthony has pleaded not guilty and remains jailed on first-degree murder charges.

Gonzalez is seeking more than $15,000 in damages.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 04, 2010, 02:18:44 PM
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=367618&page=19
Fox35: Due to technical problems, we will be posting the entire hearing on MyFoxOrlando.com this afternoon. We will send a text alert to those who are subcribed to Casey Anthony updates once this is on the site. If you would like to receive Anthony text alerts: Text "ANTHONY" to 36948. We apologize for the inconvenience.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on May 04, 2010, 02:20:28 PM
Well now wasn't that informative.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
What exactly was that!

By the time I got to WFTV which really did have live feed, unlike myfoxorlando, I saw a white haired lawyer and judge talking about back log from a 3 week trial and when the judge puts a case on the docket something, something, not far to other cases back logged, then take down the feed.
Seems like a waste for the camera crew to get set up and have no audio doesn't it? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 04, 2010, 02:20:40 PM
Orange County Clerk - file found searching John Morgan as atty

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=1450829

05/04/2010           Pre-Trial Civil  (1:30 PM) (Judicial Officer Rodriguez, Jose R)
05/04/2010           Motion for Continuance
JOINT Motion for Continuance


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 04, 2010, 02:21:28 PM
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=367618&page=19
Fox35: Due to technical problems, we will be posting the entire hearing on MyFoxOrlando.com this afternoon. We will send a text alert to those who are subcribed to Casey Anthony updates once this is on the site. If you would like to receive Anthony text alerts: Text "ANTHONY" to 36948. We apologize for the inconvenience.
Thanks, well at least they are going to be doing that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 04, 2010, 02:22:32 PM
just tweeted by Terry Lenamon

http://www.deathpenaltyblog.com/casey-anthony-case-continues-to-teach-public-on-indigent-death-penalty-defense-costs-public-hearing-on-may-6/index.html

 Posted on May 4, 2010 by Terry Lenamon
 
There's a new judge in the Casey Anthony case -- Judge Belvin Perry -- and he looks to be running a tight ship.  Despite defense counsel requests that hearings on defense costs be private, Judge Perry has ordered that an upcoming hearing on how Casey Anthony's defense will be funded is to be a public hearing.

May 6, 2010, Hearing on Indigent Defense Costs for Casey Anthony Will Be Public

That's right:  anyone interested in hearing the details on how the defense of Casey Anthony in the trial of whether or not she murdered her daughter, and whether or not the State of Florida should execute her for that crime (if found guilty) will be PUBLIC.

Which, given the media coverage of the Casey Anthony case, means there will be countless news reports giving the financial details of this death penalty defense.

What Is Expected to Happen at the Casey Anthony Budget Hearing

At Thursday's budget hearing, Judge Perry expects to hear an estimate from the defense team on the number of hours their experts will need.  The Judge has also stated that he will want to know if the experts are willing to work under the fee schedule set by Florida's Justice Administrative Commission.  (Read the Scheduling Order here.)

The public will soon glimpse into the practicalities of defending someone who's facing the death penalty in Florida.  Experts -- and their hourly rates -- will be revealed, and discussed from a budgetary standpoint.
The JAC Fee Schedule Will Be Discussed - Hopefully, Part of the Indigent Defense Crisis Will Be Seen
The JAC fee schedule will be a subject of discussion, too.  Perhaps Judge Perry should review JAC v. Lenamon before the hearing on Thursday -- because the JAC has proven itself all too willing to appeal the decisions of trial judges that seek to be fair and reasonable in this area.
The experts needed for both the guilt phase and the penalty phase of any death penalty defense case are varied in their special knowledge and expertise and far from inexpensive due to their education and experience.  Their standard hourly rates will not jive with the JAC schedule.

With the hearing on May 6th, hopefully more people will become aware of the practical realities of indigent defense representation Florida and elsewhere.  Will the experts work for less than their standard rate?  How low does the State of Florida (through the JAC) expect doctors, psychiatrists, forensic specialists, etc., to charge?   Hopefully, the public will see some of these questions answered



well as uber smart and savvy as slore's pro bono team are, and the mention of dr. lee trading expertise for a crate of oranges, there should be no problemo.  They've already asserted that she has no mental defects, so why the need for more than one sit down with a psychiatrist, the rest are probably your usual paid witnesses to declare junk science, bada bing.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on May 04, 2010, 02:23:15 PM
The only thing I heard Judge say was something about a meeting May 14th and to focus on __________???
He talks like a pansy a$$.....wasn't he voted as worst judge?
I agree Seeme he does talk like that - almost as if he is talking to a small child.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on May 04, 2010, 02:25:46 PM
What I gathered from the judge speaking at the end is that he had a trial that lasted 3 weeks and he is behind on his backlog and it may be later before he can get ZFG's trial on the docket. That is about all that was said after the sound came on.


Hi Darla and thanks.by the time I got home it was over already....but it looks like I didn't miss much...........got stuck by 2 trains on the way home.... ::MonkeyMad::.
Ya didn't miss a darn thing  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on May 04, 2010, 02:27:22 PM
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=367618&page=19
Fox35: Due to technical problems, we will be posting the entire hearing on MyFoxOrlando.com this afternoon. We will send a text alert to those who are subcribed to Casey Anthony updates once this is on the site. If you would like to receive Anthony text alerts: Text "ANTHONY" to 36948. We apologize for the inconvenience.
::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 04, 2010, 02:30:21 PM
Well now wasn't that informative.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I missed it all.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::    Me too ....

Ditto ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 04, 2010, 02:33:58 PM
hmm There is nothing of late filed under Jose Bobo - Orange County Clerk at Atty for Casey

Yet I looked under Andrea Lyon - Orange County Clerk - lots of new stuff
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234

05/03/2010           Order
Setting Motion Hearings
05/03/2010           Order
Regarding Deposition Schedule
05/06/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Justice Commission Budget Hearing
05/10/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Motions
05/11/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Pending Motions on Death Penalty
--
Why would not the same filings be posted under Bobo's name ??
---
Here is Mason
Mason http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234

05/03/2010           Order
Setting Motion Hearings
05/03/2010           Order
Regarding Deposition Schedule
05/06/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Justice Commission Budget Hearing
05/10/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Motions
05/11/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Pending Motions on Death Penalty

-- Because of Bobo's leave of absence filing is that why? Nothing is filed under his name ?
Or is because he may be leaving the dufense camp? I don't understand?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 04, 2010, 02:36:01 PM
I don't get what I'm doing wrong, shut all browsers, what is that? I think I'll just go back to bed  ::MonkeyHaHa::

No Rose, I had the same problem when I started out with the new computer. You have to download a couple of things in order to get the Live feeds, I remember having to download Flash and Media Player. I think that is right!
Thank-you that is why I'm confused, my daughter did that for me, and every was going along fine until today. I asked her to see what happened when she gets home. Luckily there wasn't much that happened.

NR, please send your daughter to my house when she is finished at yours....I have downloaded everything they have told me to and still can't watch live on WFTV or WESH...Ok on FOX and CBS though


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 04, 2010, 02:37:38 PM
just tweeted by Terry Lenamon

http://www.deathpenaltyblog.com/casey-anthony-case-continues-to-teach-public-on-indigent-death-penalty-defense-costs-public-hearing-on-may-6/index.html

 Posted on May 4, 2010 by Terry Lenamon
 
There's a new judge in the Casey Anthony case -- Judge Belvin Perry -- and he looks to be running a tight ship.  Despite defense counsel requests that hearings on defense costs be private, Judge Perry has ordered that an upcoming hearing on how Casey Anthony's defense will be funded is to be a public hearing.

May 6, 2010, Hearing on Indigent Defense Costs for Casey Anthony Will Be Public

SNIPPED


Thanks Deenie


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 04, 2010, 02:38:42 PM
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=367618&page=19
Fox35: Due to technical problems, we will be posting the entire hearing on MyFoxOrlando.com this afternoon. We will send a text alert to those who are subcribed to Casey Anthony updates once this is on the site. If you would like to receive Anthony text alerts: Text "ANTHONY" to 36948. We apologize for the inconvenience.

thanks trim and FOX!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 04, 2010, 02:40:00 PM
Well now wasn't that informative.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
What exactly was that!

By the time I got to WFTV which really did have live feed, unlike myfoxorlando, I saw a white haired lawyer and judge talking about back log from a 3 week trial and when the judge puts a case on the docket something, something, not far to other cases back logged, then take down the feed.
Seems like a waste for the camera crew to get set up and have no audio doesn't it? 

sure nuff!  But at least they got it recorded and will will see and hear it, later on!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 04, 2010, 02:41:27 PM
What I gathered from the judge speaking at the end is that he had a trial that lasted 3 weeks and he is behind on his backlog and it may be later before he can get ZFG's trial on the docket. That is about all that was said after the sound came on.


Hi Darla and thanks.by the time I got home it was over already....but it looks like I didn't miss much...........got stuck by 2 trains on the way home.... ::MonkeyMad::.
Ya didn't miss a darn thing  ::MonkeyEek::

 ::MonkeyWink::  thanks.........but I am not gonna take back one thing I said to those darn trains!! ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on May 04, 2010, 02:48:23 PM
What I gathered from the judge speaking at the end is that he had a trial that lasted 3 weeks and he is behind on his backlog and it may be later before he can get ZFG's trial on the docket. That is about all that was said after the sound came on.



Hi Darla and thanks.by the time I got home it was over already....but it looks like I didn't miss much...........got stuck by 2 trains on the way home.... ::MonkeyMad::.
Ya didn't miss a darn thing  ::MonkeyEek::

 ::MonkeyWink::  thanks.........but I am not gonna take back one thing I said to those darn trains!! ::MonkeyDevil::
::MonkeyDevil:: I'm thinkin I know what you said.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 04, 2010, 02:53:49 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/23448637/detail.html

Posted: 12:47 pm EDT May 4, 2010Updated: 2:37 pm EDT May 4, 2010
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- During a pre-trial hearing Tuesday afternoon, a judge delayed the start date for the civil trial Casey Anthony is facing.

The trial had been scheduled for June 14, but because of things not being completed, rulings still awaiting decisions and more information to review, both parties said they would not be ready for the June date.

Instead, the judge said that the trial wouldn’t start until the first quarter of next year, but a date has not been set.

WFTV reported on the defamation lawsuit filed by a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez. She's suing Casey Anthony for claiming a babysitter with her name, was responsible for Caylee Anthony’s disappearance.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 04, 2010, 03:00:31 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/23448637/detail.html

Posted: 12:47 pm EDT May 4, 2010Updated: 2:37 pm EDT May 4, 2010
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- During a pre-trial hearing Tuesday afternoon, a judge delayed the start date for the civil trial Casey Anthony is facing.

The trial had been scheduled for June 14, but because of things not being completed, rulings still awaiting decisions and more information to review, both parties said they would not be ready for the June date.

Instead, the judge said that the trial wouldn’t start until the first quarter of next year, but a date has not been set.

WFTV reported on the defamation lawsuit filed by a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez. She's suing Casey Anthony for claiming a babysitter with her name, was responsible for Caylee Anthony’s disappearance.

Good grief! Not until 2011?

Thanks, Deenie


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 04, 2010, 03:05:17 PM
hmm There is nothing of late filed under Jose Bobo - Orange County Clerk at Atty for Casey

Yet I looked under Andrea Lyon - Orange County Clerk - lots of new stuff
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234

05/03/2010           Order
Setting Motion Hearings
05/03/2010           Order
Regarding Deposition Schedule
05/06/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Justice Commission Budget Hearing
05/10/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Motions
05/11/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Pending Motions on Death Penalty
--
Why would not the same filings be posted under Bobo's name ??
---
Here is Mason
Mason http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234

05/03/2010           Order
Setting Motion Hearings
05/03/2010           Order
Regarding Deposition Schedule
05/06/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Justice Commission Budget Hearing
05/10/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Motions
05/11/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Pending Motions on Death Penalty

-- Because of Bobo's leave of absence filing is that why? Nothing is filed under his name ?
Or is because he may be leaving the dufense camp? I don't understand?

Oh Deenie..great catch..this is interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 04, 2010, 03:06:12 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2010/05/casey-anthony-defamation-case-pre-trial-today/
Casey Anthony Defamation Case Pre-Trial Update


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 04, 2010, 03:07:27 PM

Sierra Youtube - today in the Court room - Civil Suit ZG  - with some sound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rar30U2ORbA

http://www.youtube.com/v/rar30U2ORbA&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 04, 2010, 03:22:40 PM
hmm There is nothing of late filed under Jose Bobo - Orange County Clerk at Atty for Casey

Yet I looked under Andrea Lyon - Orange County Clerk - lots of new stuff
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234

05/03/2010           Order
Setting Motion Hearings
05/03/2010           Order
Regarding Deposition Schedule
05/06/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Justice Commission Budget Hearing
05/10/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Motions
05/11/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Pending Motions on Death Penalty
--
Why would not the same filings be posted under Bobo's name ??
---
Here is Mason
Mason http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234

05/03/2010           Order
Setting Motion Hearings
05/03/2010           Order
Regarding Deposition Schedule
05/06/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Justice Commission Budget Hearing
05/10/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Motions
05/11/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Pending Motions on Death Penalty

-- Because of Bobo's leave of absence filing is that why? Nothing is filed under his name ?
Or is because he may be leaving the dufense camp? I don't understand?

Oh Deenie..great catch..this is interesting.
I think its sorta strange. I even went back and double checked my eyes ..nothing is filed under Bobo since March 2010.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on May 04, 2010, 03:25:02 PM
Looks like I didn't miss anything. I got to the doctor's office early, and even though one of the alter cockers (old folks) TRIED to sneak ahead of me, I didn't let them.

So, I take it they want to postpone until 2011? I hope Caylee gets justice in this decade. It'd be nice.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 04, 2010, 03:51:45 PM
hmm There is nothing of late filed under Jose Bobo - Orange County Clerk at Atty for Casey

Yet I looked under Andrea Lyon - Orange County Clerk - lots of new stuff
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234

05/03/2010           Order
Setting Motion Hearings
05/03/2010           Order
Regarding Deposition Schedule
05/06/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Justice Commission Budget Hearing
05/10/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Motions
05/11/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Pending Motions on Death Penalty
--
Why would not the same filings be posted under Bobo's name ??
---
Here is Mason
Mason http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234

05/03/2010           Order
Setting Motion Hearings
05/03/2010           Order
Regarding Deposition Schedule
05/06/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Justice Commission Budget Hearing
05/10/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Motions
05/11/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Pending Motions on Death Penalty

-- Because of Bobo's leave of absence filing is that why? Nothing is filed under his name ?
Or is because he may be leaving the dufense camp? I don't understand?

Oh Deenie..great catch..this is interesting.
I think its sorta strange. I even went back and double checked my eyes ..nothing is filed under Bobo since March 2010.


Deenie this is what I am seeing
03/02/2010           Notice of Taking Deposition Upon Oral Examination
03/05/2010           Correspondence
from James McIntyre
03/05/2010           Motion
for Determination of Indigency for Costs w/ attachments of Affidavit of Insolvency
03/05/2010           Notice of Provision of Supplemental Discovery
03/08/2010           Motion
for Determination of Indigency for Costs (re-faxed due to pages missing from 3/5/10 packet)
03/08/2010           Affidavit of Insolvency/Indigency
03/08/2010           Affidavit of Attorney's Fees
Indigent for Costs re: Andrea Lyon
03/08/2010           Affidavit of Attorney's Fees
Indigent for Costs re: Jose Baez
03/08/2010           Order
Amended Proposed Order Setting Discovery Motion And Hearing Deadlines And Trial Date
03/08/2010           Exhibit(s)
in Support of Defendant's Omnibus Motion to Exclude Hearsay Evidence, Gossip and Innuendo
03/08/2010           Exhibit(s)
in Support of Defendant's Motion to Exclude Irrelevant Evidence of "Party Pictures"
03/08/2010           Memorandum
of Law in Support of Omnibus Motion to Exclude Hearsay Evidence, Gossip and Innuendo
03/08/2010           Motion
Omnibus; to Exclude Hearsay Evidence, Gossip, and Innuendo
03/08/2010           Exhibit(s)
in Support of Defendant's Motion in Limine to Exclude Lay Opinion
03/08/2010           Memorandum
of Law in Support of Defendant's Motion in Limine to Exclude Lay Opinion Testimony
03/08/2010           Motion In Limine
Defendant's; to Exclude Lay Opinion Testimony
03/08/2010           Memorandum
of Law in Support of Defendant's Motion in Limine to Exclude Irrelevant Evidence of "Party Pictures"
03/08/2010           Motion In Limine
to Exclude Irrelevant Evidence of "Party Pictures"
03/08/2010           Affidavit of Insolvency/Indigency
03/08/2010           Affidavit of Insolvency/Indigency
Amended as to Indigency
03/09/2010           Correspondence
to Judge
03/10/2010           Response
to Defendant's Motion to Modify the Court's Order on Defendant's Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum for Documents in the Possession of Texas Equusearch
03/10/2010           Correspondence
Filed From Clerk to Sean Whittle
03/10/2010           Correspondence
Filed From Sean Whittle to Clerk
03/11/2010           Notice of Hearing
Re: Defendant's Motion for Determination of Indigency for Costs
03/15/2010           Response
Justice Administrative Commission's; to Defendant's Motion for Determination of Indigency for Costs and Request to Participate Telephonically
03/17/2010           Notice of Completion
of Investigation
03/18/2010           Order
Unsealing State of Florida's In Camera Sealed Motion to Delay Disclosure
03/18/2010           Court Minutes
Motion for Determination of Indigency for Costs
03/18/2010           Notice of Appearance
03/18/2010           Notice of Provision of Supplemental Discovery
03/19/2010           Order Granting
Defendant's Motion for Indigency
03/19/2010           Justice Administrative Commission's Response
Post-Hearing Memorandum
03/19/2010           Notice of Completion
of Investigation filed
03/23/2010           Justice Administrative Commission's Response
Post-Hearing Memorandum (Duplicate)
03/31/2010           Correspondence
From Wineinger To Judge Rec'd From Judge
03/31/2010           Correspondence
from Dolores McGuire to Judge
04/01/2010           Correspondence
04/05/2010           Motion to Compel
Production of Tape Recorded Statement of Joe Jordan
04/05/2010           Motion
for Transcription
04/05/2010           Court Minutes
on Motion to Modify Courts Order for Documents in Possession of Texas Equusearch
04/05/2010           Order Denying
Motion to Modify the Courts Order on Defendants Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum for Documents in the Possession of Texas Equusearch
04/05/2010           Correspondence
04/07/2010           Order
on Defendants Motion to Compel Production of Tape Recorded Statement of Joe Jordan
04/07/2010           Order to Transcribe
Order on State's Motion for Transcription
04/12/2010           Notice of Provision of Supplemental Discovery
04/14/2010           Notice of Provision of Supplemental Discovery
04/15/2010           Motion
for Capital Defense Budget Hearing
04/16/2010           Motion
Defendant, Casey Marie Anthony's Motion to Disqualify Trial Judge
04/19/2010           Motion
- Defendant, Casey Marie Anthony's, Amended Motion to Disqualify Trial Judge (amended as to correct notary)
04/19/2010           Order
on Defendant's Motion to Disqualify Trial Judge
04/19/2010           Notice of Filing
Affidavit of Service (Attached)
04/20/2010           Notice of Provision of Supplemental Discovery
04/20/2010           Order
of Recusal and Order of Reassignment
04/23/2010           Notice of Unavailability
from Jose Baez
04/27/2010           Order
Setting Case Mangement Hearing with Attachment of Admin Order/Courtroom Decorum Policy
04/28/2010           Motion to Withdraw
Filed by Todd Macaluso, Esq.
04/28/2010           Motion
Amended Second; to Preclude Death Procedures for Impermissible Prosecutorial Motives With Exhibits
04/28/2010           Memorandum
Amended; of Law in Support of Second Defense Motion to Preclude Death Procedures for Impermissible Prosecutorial Motives
04/28/2010           Motion
Amended Second; to Preclude Death Procedures for Impermissible Prosecutorial Motives
04/28/2010           Memorandum
of Law in Support of Defendant's Motion for Protective Order With Respect to Penalty Phase Discovery
04/28/2010           Motion
Defendant's; for Protective Order With Respect to Penalty Phase Discovery
04/28/2010           Memorandum
of Law in Support of Defendant's Motion to Declare Florida Statute 921/141 Unconstitutional for Inadequate Appellate Review
04/28/2010           Motion
to Declare Florida Statute 921/141 Unconstitutional for Inadequate Appellate Review
04/28/2010           Memorandum
of Law in Support of Defendant's Motion to Preclude the State's Impermissible, Gender Biased, Request for Imposition of the Death Penalty
04/28/2010           Motion
to Preclude the State's Impermissible, Gender Biased, Request for Imposition of the Death Penalty
04/28/2010           Notice of Provision of Supplemental Discovery
04/29/2010           Motion
to Seal Jail Visiting Log Records
04/30/2010           Case Management Conference  (9:30 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
04/30/2010           Objection
to Courts Order on Defendants Motion to Disqualify Trial Judge
04/30/2010           Court Minutes
Hearing on Case Mangement
05/03/2010           Order
Setting Motion Hearings
05/03/2010           Order
Regarding Deposition Schedule
05/06/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Justice Commission Budget Hearing
05/10/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Motions
05/11/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Pending Motions on Death Penalty


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 04, 2010, 03:54:19 PM
Thank You Sunny - I knew something was not right. Maybe I was looking too far down the page.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 04, 2010, 03:54:45 PM
Looks like I didn't miss anything. I got to the doctor's office early, and even though one of the alter cockers (old folks) TRIED to sneak ahead of me, I didn't let them.

So, I take it they want to postpone until 2011? I hope Caylee gets justice in this decade. It'd be nice.
It sure would be nice, this is beyond ridiculous  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 04, 2010, 03:58:01 PM
just tweeted by Terry Lenamon

http://www.deathpenaltyblog.com/casey-anthony-case-continues-to-teach-public-on-indigent-death-penalty-defense-costs-public-hearing-on-may-6/index.html

 Posted on May 4, 2010 by Terry Lenamon
 
There's a new judge in the Casey Anthony case -- Judge Belvin Perry -- and he looks to be running a tight ship.  Despite defense counsel requests that hearings on defense costs be private, Judge Perry has ordered that an upcoming hearing on how Casey Anthony's defense will be funded is to be a public hearing.

May 6, 2010, Hearing on Indigent Defense Costs for Casey Anthony Will Be Public

That's right:  anyone interested in hearing the details on how the defense of Casey Anthony in the trial of whether or not she murdered her daughter, and whether or not the State of Florida should execute her for that crime (if found guilty) will be PUBLIC.

Which, given the media coverage of the Casey Anthony case, means there will be countless news reports giving the financial details of this death penalty defense.

What Is Expected to Happen at the Casey Anthony Budget Hearing

At Thursday's budget hearing, Judge Perry expects to hear an estimate from the defense team on the number of hours their experts will need.  The Judge has also stated that he will want to know if the experts are willing to work under the fee schedule set by Florida's Justice Administrative Commission.  (Read the Scheduling Order here.)

The public will soon glimpse into the practicalities of defending someone who's facing the death penalty in Florida.  Experts -- and their hourly rates -- will be revealed, and discussed from a budgetary standpoint.
The JAC Fee Schedule Will Be Discussed - Hopefully, Part of the Indigent Defense Crisis Will Be Seen
The JAC fee schedule will be a subject of discussion, too.  Perhaps Judge Perry should review JAC v. Lenamon before the hearing on Thursday -- because the JAC has proven itself all too willing to appeal the decisions of trial judges that seek to be fair and reasonable in this area.
The experts needed for both the guilt phase and the penalty phase of any death penalty defense case are varied in their special knowledge and expertise and far from inexpensive due to their education and experience.  Their standard hourly rates will not jive with the JAC schedule.

With the hearing on May 6th, hopefully more people will become aware of the practical realities of indigent defense representation Florida and elsewhere.  Will the experts work for less than their standard rate?  How low does the State of Florida (through the JAC) expect doctors, psychiatrists, forensic specialists, etc., to charge?   Hopefully, the public will see some of these questions answered



well as uber smart and savvy as slore's pro bono team are, and the mention of dr. lee trading expertise for a crate of oranges, there should be no problemo.  They've already asserted that she has no mental defects, so why the need for more than one sit down with a psychiatrist, the rest are probably your usual paid witnesses to declare junk science, bada bing.   ::MonkeyCool::

OFTLOG, what Lenamon is trying to say here is he hopes that the public feels sorry for indigent defendants who cannot afford the big bad State prosecution's case against them....to this I say CRY ME A RIVER & PUT A SOCK IN IT!

The defense requested it, so live with it & put a sock in it...bleeding hearts I swear.   So what we're supposed to empathize with murder defendants because they cant afford a trial?  For those guilty of murdering someone, maybe they should consider that BEFORE they take a life.   And why are they indigent?   Did they work, probably not.   Why did attorneys other than public defenders take the case then?   O yea, we know that answer.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 04, 2010, 04:11:20 PM
Looks like I didn't miss anything. I got to the doctor's office early, and even though one of the alter cockers (old folks) TRIED to sneak ahead of me, I didn't let them.

So, I take it they want to postpone until 2011? I hope Caylee gets justice in this decade. It'd be nice.
It sure would be nice, this is beyond ridiculous  ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 04, 2010, 04:14:18 PM
Speaking of .. Florida and the Courts
I missed the majority of the program - was on cable the other night. Unfortunate I cannot recall what cable station it was on. A&E TLC ... can't recall.
However it was the case of Tiffany Cole who is currently the Only woman on Death Row in Florida.
Her ugly mug: http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInmates/Detail.asp?Bookmark=1&From=list&SessionID=23816028

Recent article mentioning Cole and Casey  http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19179372/detail.html
full article:

The prosecution announced Monday its intent to seek the death penalty against Casey Anthony, but historically the state of Florida has been hesitant to put a woman to death.
The state attorney's office initially said it would not seek the death penalty, but changed that decision with a court filing Monday afternoon.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee Anthony.
In nearly 100 years, a Florida jury has sentenced only 16 women to death, and most of those sentences were later thrown out for various legal reasons.

"Very few women are put to death in Florida," defense attorney Jose Baez said. "She's not a serial killer."

There are 392 people sitting on Florida's death row, and only one, Tiffany Cole, is a woman.
Cole was convicted of kidnapping a husband and wife from Duval County and burying them alive.

Two women have been executed in the state of Florida in the past 85 years, serial killer Eileen Wurenos and Judy Buenoano.  Buenoano earned the nickname "The Black Widow" for poisoning her husband with arsenic in 1971. She later drowned her paralyzed son in a lake and tried to blow up her boyfriend with a car bomb.

Anthony is charged with murdering a child, a crime that juries rarely find worth of capital punishment.

A South Carolina jury rejected the death penalty for Susan Smith in 1995. She was convicted of murdering her two young sons.

Andrea Yates was given a life sentence by a Houston jury for drowning her five children in a bath tub. Texas executes more people than any other state.
Orange County prosecutors did not seek the death penalty against Kenya Hill. While already on probation for child abuse, authorities found the body of hill's four-year-old daughter decomposing in a South Orange Blossom Trail motel room that was covered in trash and soaked with urine.

The child's skull had been fractured and she had contusions on her neck.
Hill was convicted of second-degree murder.


not sure if that is Orange County Florida or California. What a Monster.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 04, 2010, 04:14:21 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/05/casey-anthony-civil-case-lawye.html
WDBO Local News      
Casey Anthony civil case: Lawyers to seek 'significant amount of money'
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ May 4, 2010 3:25 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
The Casey Anthony civil case went back to court Tuesday afternoon.  She's being sued for defamation after lawyers say she falsely accused a woman of kidnapping her daughter. 

Zenaida Gonzalez attorney Keith Mitnik wouldn't say exactly how much money he's seeking from Casey Anthony but said it will be a "significant amount."

Casey has no money now, she has been declared indigent by the court.  But Mitnik said that could change.

"I don't know if there is a book deal or something," he said.   

Monday, lawyers asked for more time to question Casey's jailhouse pen pal - trial wont start until early next year.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 04, 2010, 04:14:47 PM
Thank You Sunny - I knew something was not right. Maybe I was looking too far down the page.

perhaps or they might have been doing some maintenance or something ...who knows ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 04, 2010, 04:16:31 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/23450607/detail.html
Judge: Anthony Civil Trial Will Be Heard First
Judge Decides Civil Trial Will Take Place Early 2011


POSTED: 3:18 pm EDT May 4, 2010
UPDATED: 3:34 pm EDT May 4, 201
ORLANDO, Fla. --
A judge decided Tuesday that the civil trial for Casey Anthony will take place early next year, before the criminal trial.

The civil case deals with a lawsuit filed by Zenaida Gonzalez against Anthony. Gonzalez claims her reputation was ruined when Anthony said she was the last person to look after Anthony's daughter Caylee.

Gonzalez has denied the claims. Casey was not required to attend today's hearing.

On Monday, Judge Belvin Perry finalized a schedule for Anthony's criminal trial that included three critical hearings in the next eight days.

A hearing will be held Thursday to talk about how much taxpayer money Anthony should be budgeted to aid in her defense, now that she has been declared indigent.

On Friday, defense attorney Jose Baez asked Perry if the budget concerns will be discussed in private. Perry decided the budget hearing will be held in open court Thursday.
Perry said he he wanted to know how many hours the defense team's experts will require and if they are willing to abide by the fee schedule set by Florida's Justice Administrative Commission.

Next week, a series of important defense motions will be heard, including a hearing on the trial's location and another to discuss whether evidence can be introduced suggesting the man who discovered Caylee's remain, Roy Kronk, should have been investigated as a possible suspect.
Perry said he also plans to consider a series of defense motions challenging the death penalty.

WESH 2's Bob Kealing said, by next week, followers of the case should expect to know how much money it will cost taxpayers to defend Casey Anthony, where her trial will be held and whether the state can keep pursuing the ultimate punishment against her.

Meanwhile, Anthony's civil case will be back in court Tuesday. A status hearing is scheduled for the defamation suit brought by the woman Anthony said was Caylee's nanny, Zenaida Gonzalez.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 04, 2010, 04:17:51 PM
just tweeted by Terry Lenamon

http://www.deathpenaltyblog.com/casey-anthony-case-continues-to-teach-public-on-indigent-death-penalty-defense-costs-public-hearing-on-may-6/index.html

 Posted on May 4, 2010 by Terry Lenamon
 
There's a new judge in the Casey Anthony case -- Judge Belvin Perry -- and he looks to be running a tight ship.  Despite defense counsel requests that hearings on defense costs be private, Judge Perry has ordered that an upcoming hearing on how Casey Anthony's defense will be funded is to be a public hearing.

May 6, 2010, Hearing on Indigent Defense Costs for Casey Anthony Will Be Public

That's right:  anyone interested in hearing the details on how the defense of Casey Anthony in the trial of whether or not she murdered her daughter, and whether or not the State of Florida should execute her for that crime (if found guilty) will be PUBLIC.

Which, given the media coverage of the Casey Anthony case, means there will be countless news reports giving the financial details of this death penalty defense.

What Is Expected to Happen at the Casey Anthony Budget Hearing

At Thursday's budget hearing, Judge Perry expects to hear an estimate from the defense team on the number of hours their experts will need.  The Judge has also stated that he will want to know if the experts are willing to work under the fee schedule set by Florida's Justice Administrative Commission.  (Read the Scheduling Order here.)

The public will soon glimpse into the practicalities of defending someone who's facing the death penalty in Florida.  Experts -- and their hourly rates -- will be revealed, and discussed from a budgetary standpoint.
The JAC Fee Schedule Will Be Discussed - Hopefully, Part of the Indigent Defense Crisis Will Be Seen
The JAC fee schedule will be a subject of discussion, too.  Perhaps Judge Perry should review JAC v. Lenamon before the hearing on Thursday -- because the JAC has proven itself all too willing to appeal the decisions of trial judges that seek to be fair and reasonable in this area.
The experts needed for both the guilt phase and the penalty phase of any death penalty defense case are varied in their special knowledge and expertise and far from inexpensive due to their education and experience.  Their standard hourly rates will not jive with the JAC schedule.

With the hearing on May 6th, hopefully more people will become aware of the practical realities of indigent defense representation Florida and elsewhere.  Will the experts work for less than their standard rate?  How low does the State of Florida (through the JAC) expect doctors, psychiatrists, forensic specialists, etc., to charge?   Hopefully, the public will see some of these questions answered



well as uber smart and savvy as slore's pro bono team are, and the mention of dr. lee trading expertise for a crate of oranges, there should be no problemo.  They've already asserted that she has no mental defects, so why the need for more than one sit down with a psychiatrist, the rest are probably your usual paid witnesses to declare junk science, bada bing.   ::MonkeyCool::

OFTLOG, what Lenamon is trying to say here is he hopes that the public feels sorry for indigent defendants who cannot afford the big bad State prosecution's case against them....to this I say CRY ME A RIVER & PUT A SOCK IN IT!

The defense requested it, so live with it & put a sock in it...bleeding hearts I swear.   So what we're supposed to empathize with murder defendants because they cant afford a trial?  For those guilty of murdering someone, maybe they should consider that BEFORE they take a life.   And why are they indigent?   Did they work, probably not.   Why did attorneys other than public defenders take the case then?   O yea, we know that answer.


It's insulting that this murdering witch has the benefit of a team of established attys. stumbling over each other to represent her and yet have the gall to cry foul. With their combined expertise (exception, bozo) they are quailified to be on any high profile, high budget case.  Is the inference here that it's not the talent and knowledge that these professionals bring to the defense table but instead the bulging wallet?  Is he saying without saying it that money wins capitol cases?  Evidence  opinion can be bought at the right price, witnesses can be slandered thru the diligent services of a high price PI, Expert shopping costs big bucks to zero in on the one who just 'happens' to have the 'right' study to back up a theory.  Manufacturing doubt is costly so I echo Caps sentiment  if you're thinking about snuffing out a life, unless all the planets align correctly and you manage to snag a pro bono dream team, you could be having trouble winning your case........so why are the scheme team even sweating this, they should be able to call in some favors.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 04, 2010, 04:20:18 PM
March 2010 - Tiffany Cole in front of Supreme Court

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2010-03-11/story/supreme_court_affirms_death_penalty_for_convicted_killer_tiffany_c

snipped: She and three other men robbed a disabled Jacksonville couple in 2005 and buried them alive.

TALLAHASSEE — The only woman on Florida's death row has lost an appeal to the state Supreme Court. The justices unanimously affirmed Tiffany Cole's murder conviction and death sentence Thursday.

The 28-year-old woman was convicted in the deaths of a disabled Jacksonville couple, James "Reggie" Sumner and wife Carol, both 61. They were buried alive after being robbed in 2005.

Cole's lawyer argued her life should be spared because she didn't know the other defendants — including the mastermind and Cole's boyfriend, Michael J. Jackson — planned to kill the victims by burying them alive.

Jackson and another man, Alan L. Wade, also have been sentenced to death. A third man, Bruce Nixon, testified against the others and is serving a 45-year prison term.

The high court agreed Cole didn't know such a cruel method would be used, but said other factors justified a death sentence.

Florida has executed two women since reinstating the death penalty: serial killer Aileen Wuornos in 2002 and Judy Buenoano, convicted of poisoning her husband, in 1998.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 04, 2010, 04:22:05 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/05/casey-anthony-civil-case-lawye.html
WDBO Local News      
Casey Anthony civil case: Lawyers to seek 'significant amount of money'
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ May 4, 2010 3:25 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
The Casey Anthony civil case went back to court Tuesday afternoon.  She's being sued for defamation after lawyers say she falsely accused a woman of kidnapping her daughter. 

Zenaida Gonzalez attorney Keith Mitnik wouldn't say exactly how much money he's seeking from Casey Anthony but said it will be a "significant amount."

Casey has no money now, she has been declared indigent by the court.  But Mitnik said that could change.

"I don't know if there is a book deal or something," he said.   

Monday, lawyers asked for more time to question Casey's jailhouse pen pal - trial wont start until early next year.


thanks...well that's interesting ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 04, 2010, 04:25:16 PM
March 2010 - Tiffany Cole in front of Supreme Court

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2010-03-11/story/supreme_court_affirms_death_penalty_for_convicted_killer_tiffany_c

snipped: She and three other men robbed a disabled Jacksonville couple in 2005 and buried them alive.

TALLAHASSEE — The only woman on Florida's death row has lost an appeal to the state Supreme Court. The justices unanimously affirmed Tiffany Cole's murder conviction and death sentence Thursday.

The 28-year-old woman was convicted in the deaths of a disabled Jacksonville couple, James "Reggie" Sumner and wife Carol, both 61. They were buried alive after being robbed in 2005.

Cole's lawyer argued her life should be spared because she didn't know the other defendants — including the mastermind and Cole's boyfriend, Michael J. Jackson — planned to kill the victims by burying them alive.

Jackson and another man, Alan L. Wade, also have been sentenced to death. A third man, Bruce Nixon, testified against the others and is serving a 45-year prison term.

The high court agreed Cole didn't know such a cruel method would be used, but said other factors justified a death sentence.

Florida has executed two women since reinstating the death penalty: serial killer Aileen Wuornos in 2002 and Judy Buenoano, convicted of poisoning her husband, in 1998.

deenie, thanks for all the information on T Cole....I'll be interested to see the outcome


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cookie on May 04, 2010, 04:27:05 PM
thanks for all the links and the info everyone..appreciate reading it all...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 04, 2010, 04:35:57 PM
This a really good read on Tiffany Cole and anyone else that is currently serving Capital Charges in Florida - You can look at each person's case.

http://www.floridacapitalcases.state.fl.us/inmate-details.cfm?id=413

At the very bottom the info grabbed my attention:
snipped:
Cole filed a Direct Appeal in the Florida Supreme Court on 03/19/08. In that appeal, Cole argued that the trial court erred in (1) admonishing defense counsel for a cross-examination question to the State‘s witness, codefendant Nixon, concerning the parameters of Nixon‘s possible sentence under his plea agreement; (2) admitting photographs showing Cole and codefendants Jackson and Wade partying in Myrtle Beach before the murders; (3) instructing the jury on and in finding the avoid-arrest aggravating factor; (4) instructing the jury on and in finding the HAC aggravating factor; and (5) imposing death sentences that are disparate compared to codefendant Nixon‘s sentence of 45 years. Cole also contends that Florida‘s death penalty scheme is unconstitutional under Ring v. Arizona, 536 U.S. 584 (2002). The Florida Supreme Court did not find errors that warranted reversing the conviction or sentence. On 03/11/10, The Florida Supreme Court affirmed the conviction and sentence.

** I wonder if Lyon read up on this case and still thinks Women are victims of Gender in the Legal realm .. when they brutally murder someone.
Found her Judge - Circuit Judge Michael R. Weatherby 4th District, Jacksonville- Now retired.


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Post by: Deenie on May 04, 2010, 04:46:36 PM
Bob Kealing News Vid from Feb 2010 - talking about May 2011. Its a short vid. Why I put it up not really for what is on audio. The visual though is  ::MonkeyNoNo:: to watch Baez in court "chumming" with BC in the court room ..and to watch Casey doodling acting like she is part of counsel. 

http://www.youtube.com/v/8X5NOIiNkoY&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X5NOIiNkoY


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Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 04, 2010, 04:49:27 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/05/casey-anthony-civil-case-lawye.html
WDBO Local News      
Casey Anthony civil case: Lawyers to seek 'significant amount of money'
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ May 4, 2010 3:25 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
The Casey Anthony civil case went back to court Tuesday afternoon.  She's being sued for defamation after lawyers say she falsely accused a woman of kidnapping her daughter. 

Zenaida Gonzalez attorney Keith Mitnik wouldn't say exactly how much money he's seeking from Casey Anthony but said it will be a "significant amount.

Casey has no money now, she has been declared indigent by the court.  But Mitnik said that could change.

"I don't know if there is a book deal or something," he said.   

Monday, lawyers asked for more time to question Casey's jailhouse pen pal - trial wont start until early next year.


hmmmmm, interesting Casey claims she's indigent right before the defamation trial was supposed to begin...all the money is gone.....oh, and Mommy and Daddy have no money either, can't pay their mortgage, blah, blah, blah ::MonkeyMad::

I say go after their a$$e$ Mitnik, even if it's for the last 2 nickels they have to rub together!!!


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 04, 2010, 05:01:56 PM
I agree with you Seeme.   ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: Deenie on May 04, 2010, 05:08:52 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/05/casey-anthony-civil-case-lawye.html
WDBO Local News      
Casey Anthony civil case: Lawyers to seek 'significant amount of money'
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ May 4, 2010 3:25 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
The Casey Anthony civil case went back to court Tuesday afternoon.  She's being sued for defamation after lawyers say she falsely accused a woman of kidnapping her daughter. 

Zenaida Gonzalez attorney Keith Mitnik wouldn't say exactly how much money he's seeking from Casey Anthony but said it will be a "significant amount.

Casey has no money now, she has been declared indigent by the court.  But Mitnik said that could change.

"I don't know if there is a book deal or something," he said.   

Monday, lawyers asked for more time to question Casey's jailhouse pen pal - trial wont start until early next year.


hmmmmm, interesting Casey claims she's indigent right before the defamation trial was supposed to begin...all the money is gone.....oh, and Mommy and Daddy have no money either, can't pay their mortgage, blah, blah, blah ::MonkeyMad::

I say go after their a$$e$ Mitnik, even if it's for the last 2 nickels they have to rub together!!!
Makes you Wonder doesn't  SeeMe ...How Many Nickels " Bobo" has tucked away in an account somewhere undisclosed.  There is no way in H@ll he is going to be able to produce IMO records of every dollar he has gone through to date for Judge Perry. Records sure he can create them. But the actual money ( ABC $$)  that was spent for the case via his/Baez's Accounting ... I would not trust any document as true. He as I said before more than likely fronted Money out of his own pocket/Case to date - and took the 200k+ and Banked it somewhere. Just reading from what was said today that he has only deposed to date "36" people " witnesses" ........what has he been doing all this time?  With Mark Nejame stating that team Bobo has been given everything but a Red Carpet to come to his office... etc.

Logically it makes no sense what so ever. None. I can't wait for Judge Perry to take all paperwork.  The "Paper Trail/ Accounting" submitted not so long ago to Judge Strickland.  For JP to take what Bobo says in his Court / papers he submits to Judge Perry .. comparing all of it to what was submitted to Judge Strickland. 

If Bobo can admit in open court that he is not aware of his billable hour fee - nor can he even take a stab at how many hours he has billed .......HOW in the world could anyone be able to look at his accounting ledgers and believe they are not doctored. Mind boggle.



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Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 04, 2010, 05:10:10 PM
I agree with you Seeme.   ::MonkeyCool::

Between Judge Rodriguez and the scream team attorneys.....they are on my last d@mn nerve!


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Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 04, 2010, 05:15:19 PM
I just read a little on Trials & Tribulations about the new judge.  I think I might really like him!  He's gonna keep this thing moving!  Think Baez can keep up ... I don't ... I think he'll be in trouble with the judge within a month! 


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 04, 2010, 05:17:47 PM
I agree with you Seeme.   ::MonkeyCool::
I agree as well, even if you have to rip the shirts right off their backs, go for it.


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Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 04, 2010, 05:29:20 PM
Is Zenaida only suing Casey or is she suing George and Cindy too?  I'd sue the whole bunch!  They were all complicit in keeping the lie going ... and IMO Cindy kept it going even longer than Casey!


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Post by: Deenie on May 04, 2010, 05:34:28 PM
Has anyone heard if Linda Kenney Baden is going to remain for the long haul. I know she was on the "Phone" via the last hearing - heard over head.

She has a twitter account: http://twitter.com/kenneybaden
I thought it was fake or someone else using her name. Nope. Its hers. She evidently writes or has written on Huffington Post.  Her Bio on Huff Po. I don't know who wrote this. It is unclear though her standing within Casey Anthony's case. The Bio is a bunch of run on sentences .. ouch.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/linda-kenney-baden -  Everybody is a Super Star

Linda Kenney Baden is a former criminal prosecutor turned private trial attorney who now focuses on criminal defense and civil rights. She represented music producer Phil Spector in his first murder trial that resulted in a hung jury trial in Los Angeles, California. Recently she and her co-counsel won the dismissal of murder charges against Paul Gregory House in a case from Tennessee where defendant House had spent over twenty years on death row for a murder he didn’t commit. Her cases and clients have included such other high profile matters such as the New Jersey Four- involving the racial profiling and the shooting of several minority young men on the New Jersey Turnpike, former NBA basketball star Jayson Williams in both a civil and criminal defense capacity, and has been part of the team representing Florida mother Casey Anthony. She is a member of the bar in New Jersey, New York, Washington, D.C and is also admitted to practice before the Supreme Court of the United States. She is a fellow in the American Academy of Forensic Sciences. Linda is also the co-author of a bestseller thriller novel series including their most recent - SKELETON JUSTICE - written with her husband Dr. Michael Baden. She also appears regularly on television networks as a guest legal commentator.


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Post by: Brandi on May 04, 2010, 05:34:30 PM
Casey Anthony: She won’t have to go to civil trial, which will be early next year
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Central Florida News 13, WESH, WFTV — posted by halboedeker on May, 4 2010 5:27 PM

The civil case against Casey Anthony will be heard early next year.

Attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez want to pursue new evidence in her defamation suit against Anthony, WESH-Channel 2 reported this afternoon.

Anthony has said that a baby sitter named Zenaida Gonzalez took Caylee Anthony. The woman suing Anthony, who has that name, says that claim ruined her life. Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter. 

WESH’s Bob Kealing pointed to Anthony’s letters to a jail pen pal as a possible source of new evidence.

“If there’s a witness out there that who can say I heard out of Casey Anthony’s mouth ‘this is fabricated,’ that would be huge for our case,” Gonzalez attorney Keith Mitnik told WESH. 

WFTV-Channel 9 anchor Martie Salt noted that the civil case could unfold in the first quarter of next year – before the murder trial.

“The civil trial is not about whether Casey murdered Caylee, so there’s no legal reason to hold it up,” WFTV’s Kathi Belich said. “Zenaida Gonzalez’s lawyers say if the civil trial makes Casey look bad right before her murder trial, that’s her problem.”

Belich highlighted an Anthony letter to a jail pen pal that said “Zenaida didn’t do it.”

Belich also noted that Anthony doesn’t have to attend the civil trial. And Belich relayed WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer’s view that Anthony will face criticism “if she does for her clothes and her every move — or for her guilty conscience if she doesn’t.”

On Central Florida News 13, Mitnik said the attorneys want to make Anthony pay for what she did to Gonzalez. “We will be asking for a significant amount of money,” he said.

Central Florida News 13 anchor Adam Longo added,”Mitnik would not comment on an exact amount.”

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/05/casey-anthony-she-wont-have-to-go-to-civil-trial-which-will-be-early-next-year.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


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Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 04, 2010, 05:43:16 PM
And what happened to Lee?  In all the reading I've done to try to catch up on this case ... I haven't seen much about him attending court or speaking out for Casey?  Maybe he grew a brain and he's moved to the "my sister's a murderer" camp?


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Post by: Deenie on May 04, 2010, 05:55:40 PM
Video of Bobo and Cheney - after court with Judge Perry Video  - The Dynamic Duo

In Sessions - I cannot embed - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yHwiJpZ34


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Post by: loca on May 04, 2010, 06:00:41 PM
wouldnt it be a nice early christmas present if bozo was thrown off the case disbarred.
it would ease my depression !


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 04, 2010, 06:07:21 PM
And what happened to Lee?  In all the reading I've done to try to catch up on this case ... I haven't seen much about him attending court or speaking out for Casey?  Maybe he grew a brain and he's moved to the "my sister's a murderer" camp?
We don't know, hopefully he crawled back under the rock that he came out from, we can only hope.


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Post by: Deenie on May 04, 2010, 06:09:57 PM
Video of Brad Conway interviewed from 3/2010 - In Sessions

Speaking about Money received from ABC - or other sources
He speaks about Cindy George Foreclosure of House and their current relationship with Casey

http://www.youtube.com/v/4nD9MMhZxRw&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nD9MMhZxRw


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Post by: Cappuccino on May 04, 2010, 06:13:20 PM
More Delays For Casey Anthony Civil Trial

Posted: 12:47 pm EDT May 4, 2010
Updated: 4:58 pm EDT May 4, 2010

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- In the civil case against Casey Anthony, the woman suing Casey for defamation will probably get her day in court before Casey's murder trial. A judge said Tuesday that Casey's civil suit will likely be heard early next year, months before her murder trial.
WFTV’s legal expert said it could taint the jury pool, but the civil trial is not about whether Casey murdered Caylee, so legally there's no reason to hold it up.
Zenaida Gonzalez's lawyers say, if the civil case makes Casey look bad right before her murder trial, that's her problem. The evidence in the two cases overlaps, so the defamation trial could cause problems for Casey Anthony during her murder trial.
“That's not our problem; that's her problem. Our client was an innocent bystander; she got drug into this. She had nothing to do with it. I don't care what problems it creates for Casey Anthony,” attorney Keith Mitnik said.      AMEN TO THAT!
But Casey’s civil case can go first, as the judge said Tuesday, because both trials are not about whether she killed her daughter Caylee, which was the case with the OJ Simpson trials and why his civil trial went after his murder trial.
“It's about whether she falsely accused a now-witness in the case of taking her child,” WFTV legal expert Bill Sheaffer said.
Sheaffer said, if the judge hearing Casey's murder case still has any question about going out of town to look for a jury, this might be the answer.
“The media it is going to attract will taint whatever potential impartial juror that's left in Orange County,” Sheaffer said.
Zenaida's lawyers are largely focusing on evidence uncovered in the murder case: Casey's statements to her parents in jail and her mother's public comments about Caylee's alleged nanny Zenaida Gonzalez, evidence that Casey's father modeled his description of the nanny after his alleged mistress, and Casey's letter to her jail pen pal that just surfaced saying Zenaida didn't do it.
“They could be bombshells in our case,” Mitnik said.
Casey doesn't have to go to her civil trial, but, either way, Sheaffer says, she'll face criticism. If she does attend it’ll be for her clothes and her every move or for having a guilty conscience if she doesn't attend.

Please include a link ***
I found it this time.....
http://www.wftv.com/news/23448637/detail.html


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Post by: Deenie on May 04, 2010, 06:24:33 PM
More Delays For Casey Anthony Civil Trial

Posted: 12:47 pm EDT May 4, 2010
Updated: 4:58 pm EDT May 4, 2010

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- In the civil case against Casey Anthony, the woman suing Casey for defamation will probably get her day in court before Casey's murder trial. A judge said Tuesday that Casey's civil suit will likely be heard early next year, months before her murder trial.
WFTV’s legal expert said it could taint the jury pool, but the civil trial is not about whether Casey murdered Caylee, so legally there's no reason to hold it up.
Zenaida Gonzalez's lawyers say, if the civil case makes Casey look bad right before her murder trial, that's her problem. The evidence in the two cases overlaps, so the defamation trial could cause problems for Casey Anthony during her murder trial.
“That's not our problem; that's her problem. Our client was an innocent bystander; she got drug into this. She had nothing to do with it. I don't care what problems it creates for Casey Anthony,” attorney Keith Mitnik said.      AMEN TO THAT!
But Casey’s civil case can go first, as the judge said Tuesday, because both trials are not about whether she killed her daughter Caylee, which was the case with the OJ Simpson trials and why his civil trial went after his murder trial.
“It's about whether she falsely accused a now-witness in the case of taking her child,” WFTV legal expert Bill Sheaffer said.
Sheaffer said, if the judge hearing Casey's murder case still has any question about going out of town to look for a jury, this might be the answer.
“The media it is going to attract will taint whatever potential impartial juror that's left in Orange County,” Sheaffer said.
Zenaida's lawyers are largely focusing on evidence uncovered in the murder case: Casey's statements to her parents in jail and her mother's public comments about Caylee's alleged nanny Zenaida Gonzalez, evidence that Casey's father modeled his description of the nanny after his alleged mistress, and Casey's letter to her jail pen pal that just surfaced saying Zenaida didn't do it.
“They could be bombshells in our case,” Mitnik said.
Casey doesn't have to go to her civil trial, but, either way, Sheaffer says, she'll face criticism. If she does attend it’ll be for her clothes and her every move or for having a guilty conscience if she doesn't attend.
http://www.wftv.com/news/23448637/detail.html

Cappy going back to the Depo's of Ant Family " Morgan & Morgan" how can they M&M not " go there" as far as - Criminal Case? Understanding this is a civil suit fighting for ZG and her victimization of person - How can they not go into the criminal case in order for ZG to Win? Which I am hopeful this is a slam dunk for ZG. 
Thinking back to Cindy and George getting their undies in a bunch - I am not going to Answer that question. * then after they had their tantrums BC advised them not disclose info - just say Yes or No. Also being that BC seems to be privy of all court documents and hearings with Team Bahyez .......Criminal. Its again confusing to me.

 



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Post by: Deenie on May 04, 2010, 06:43:59 PM
John Kasen on JVM - speaking as Casey Anthony's Civil Suit Atty? I didn't know he existed. John Morgan speaks as well on this vid. 2/009

http://www.youtube.com/v/Wxg3PA2zOzg&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0

Today's News mentioning Kasen:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-zenaida-hearing-20100504,0,5781966.story
snipped:
The civil trial was initially set for June. However, Anthony's civil attorney, Jonathan Kasen, who was not at today's hearing, and Gonzalez lawyers wanted more time to prepare and requested the trial be postponed.
Orange Circuit Court Judge Jose R. Rodriguez agreed — but warned them the earliest date he could offer is sometime next year.
While Gonzalez's attorneys were hoping for a trial in August, they understand the delay.
"I'm not surprised," said Keith Mitnik, one of Gonzalez's attorneys. "The courts are very busy. It's not an old case." She filed suit two years ago, saying she was harmed by Anthony's statement about the baby sitter. She is seeking unspecified damages.
The new trial date gives her legal team time to investigate information that Anthony spoke and exchanged letters with another jail inmate, who claims Anthony told her that there was no babysitter named Zenaida.
In September, Anthony's attorney, Jonathan Kasen, asked the judge to delay or throw out the civil suit. Anthony shouldn't be placed under oath and required to say whether or not she murdered her child, he argued.





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Post by: Deenie on May 04, 2010, 06:57:37 PM
The Mindset of John Kasen in the JVM video - is disturbing.  He claims that the civil suit is nonsense and that ZG should just basically " Move Along" in life without any retribution ..
What a Jack Arse ..the other guy as well who spoke stating the same ...

I hope they are never fingered as a Child Murderer .. out of the blue by someone.

 ::MonkeyShovel::   ::MonkeyNoNo::





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Post by: Curly on May 04, 2010, 07:30:51 PM
I just read a little on Trials & Tribulations about the new judge.  I think I might really like him!  He's gonna keep this thing moving!  Think Baez can keep up ... I don't ... I think he'll be in trouble with the judge within a month! 

Lol! I agree, but I'll give him 2 mos. because he's going on vacation!
I might take that back when judge Perry see's his accounting records. Now that ought to be fun to watch and re-watch, and re-watch, lol!


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Post by: Gypsy DD on May 04, 2010, 07:33:37 PM
Hmm.. interesting day no?  The civil case will unravel the money trail..it needs to so that ZFG can get her due.   This will play havic with whatever Baez and team are about to represent in Casey's $0 dollars court hearing on Thursday. Judge 

Do I think that Morgan will go after any money that the A's have or are hiding..yes.  They know that is going to happen.  She is their daughter..and they were her only support..no job, no nothing in her name..she lived off of them.  They were not cooperative with the depos for the civil case, infact they were down right rude.  Why..not to help Casey..but they were afraid they would also be named.  Guess what..they will be..they bore her, they bore her bills, lied for her, supported her and now they will have to pay once again for her.  The money in George's Mom account..well kiss that good bye.  You can run..but stupid Athoney's can't hide.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 04, 2010, 08:15:21 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/05/casey-anthony-she-wont-have-to-go-to-civil-trial-which-will-be-early-next-year.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29
Casey Anthony: She won’t have to go to civil trial, which will be early next year
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Central Florida News 13, WESH, WFTV, WOFL — posted by halboedeker on May, 4 2010 5:27 PM
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The civil case against Casey Anthony will be heard early next year.

Attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez want to pursue new evidence in her defamation suit against Anthony, WESH-Channel 2 reported this afternoon.

Anthony has said that a baby sitter named Zenaida Gonzalez took Caylee Anthony. The woman suing Anthony, who has that name, says that claim ruined her life. Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter. 

WESH’s Bob Kealing pointed to Anthony’s letters to a jail pen pal as a possible source of new evidence.

“If there’s a witness out there that who can say I heard out of Casey Anthony’s mouth ‘this is fabricated,’ that would be huge for our case,” Gonzalez attorney Keith Mitnik told WESH. 

WFTV-Channel 9 anchor Martie Salt noted that the civil case could unfold in the first quarter of next year – before the murder trial. WFTV said the murder case would start June 14, 2011, but May 9, 2011, is  the actual date.

“The civil trial is not about whether Casey murdered Caylee, so there’s no legal reason to hold it up,” WFTV’s Kathi Belich said. “Zenaida Gonzalez’s lawyers say if the civil trial makes Casey look bad right before her murder trial, that’s her problem.”

Belich highlighted an Anthony letter to a jail pen pal that said “Zenaida didn’t do it.”

Belich also noted that Anthony doesn’t have to attend the civil trial. And Belich relayed WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer’s view that Anthony will face criticism “if she does for her clothes and her every move — or for her guilty conscience if she doesn’t.”

On Central Florida News 13, Mitnik said the attorneys want to make Anthony pay for what she did to Gonzalez. “We will be asking for a significant amount of money,” he said.

Central Florida News 13 anchor Adam Longo added,”Mitnik would not comment on an exact amount.”

On WOFL-Channel 35, Mitnik said he suspected there would be overlap between the civil and criminal trials. “That’s not our problem. That’s her [Anthony's] problem,” Mitnik said. “Frankly, I don’t care what problems it creates for Casey Anthony.”

WESH’s Kealing reported that Anthony has refused to answer questions from Gonzalez’s attorneys and they don’t expect Anthony to attend the civil trial.

“With her very life at stake in the murder trial, it can only harm Casey’s defense if she were to admit in this defamation case that Zanny the nanny was just someone she made up,” Kealing said in concluding his report.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 04, 2010, 08:27:40 PM
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww103/NetDetective/EVIDENCE/fleecepoohblanket-1.jpg)     ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: klaasend on May 04, 2010, 08:28:31 PM
Don't miss the Dana Pretzer show:

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CLICK ON THE LINK BELOW:

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/radio.m3u


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Post by: Ono on May 04, 2010, 09:22:47 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2010/05/casey-anthony-defamation-case-pre-trial-today/
Casey Anthony Defamation Case Pre-Trial Update


I'm going to be old & feeble before The Anthony Saga concludes!     ::MonkeyHaHa::


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Post by: Wyks on May 04, 2010, 09:29:28 PM
So if they go with PTSD they gotta get rid of those party pictures so the jury dont see her having a good time.      ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yeppers!   ::rhino::



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Post by: Ono on May 04, 2010, 09:32:22 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/05/casey-anthony-civil-case-lawye.html
WDBO Local News      
Casey Anthony civil case: Lawyers to seek 'significant amount of money'
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ May 4, 2010 3:25 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
The Casey Anthony civil case went back to court Tuesday afternoon.  She's being sued for defamation after lawyers say she falsely accused a woman of kidnapping her daughter. 

Zenaida Gonzalez attorney Keith Mitnik wouldn't say exactly how much money he's seeking from Casey Anthony but said it will be a "significant amount."

Casey has no money now, she has been declared indigent by the court.  But Mitnik said that could change.

"I don't know if there is a book deal or something," he said.   

Monday, lawyers asked for more time to question Casey's jailhouse pen pal - trial wont start until early next year.


thanks...well that's interesting ::MonkeyWink::


There's prolly more than one ...


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Post by: darla on May 04, 2010, 10:45:22 PM
Speaking of .. Florida and the Courts
I missed the majority of the program - was on cable the other night. Unfortunate I cannot recall what cable station it was on. A&E TLC ... can't recall.
However it was the case of Tiffany Cole who is currently the Only woman on Death Row in Florida.
Her ugly mug: http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInmates/Detail.asp?Bookmark=1&From=list&SessionID=23816028

Recent article mentioning Cole and Casey  http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19179372/detail.html
full article:

The prosecution announced Monday its intent to seek the death penalty against Casey Anthony, but historically the state of Florida has been hesitant to put a woman to death.
The state attorney's office initially said it would not seek the death penalty, but changed that decision with a court filing Monday afternoon.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee Anthony.
In nearly 100 years, a Florida jury has sentenced only 16 women to death, and most of those sentences were later thrown out for various legal reasons.

"Very few women are put to death in Florida," defense attorney Jose Baez said. "She's not a serial killer."

There are 392 people sitting on Florida's death row, and only one, Tiffany Cole, is a woman.
Cole was convicted of kidnapping a husband and wife from Duval County and burying them alive.

Two women have been executed in the state of Florida in the past 85 years, serial killer Eileen Wurenos and Judy Buenoano.  Buenoano earned the nickname "The Black Widow" for poisoning her husband with arsenic in 1971. She later drowned her paralyzed son in a lake and tried to blow up her boyfriend with a car bomb.

Anthony is charged with murdering a child, a crime that juries rarely find worth of capital punishment.
A South Carolina jury rejected the death penalty for Susan Smith in 1995. She was convicted of murdering her two young sons.

Andrea Yates was given a life sentence by a Houston jury for drowning her five children in a bath tub. Texas executes more people than any other state.
Orange County prosecutors did not seek the death penalty against Kenya Hill. While already on probation for child abuse, authorities found the body of hill's four-year-old daughter decomposing in a South Orange Blossom Trail motel room that was covered in trash and soaked with urine.

The child's skull had been fractured and she had contusions on her neck.
Hill was convicted of second-degree murder.


not sure if that is Orange County Florida or California. What a Monster.




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The statement in blue ink above has my blood boiling. She just murdered a child, and juries don't think it is worthy of the death penalty??????
If a precious defenseless 2 yr old with her lil head wrapped in duct tape is not worthy, then just who the HELL is? That statement just runs all over me. Geesh ....Well I guess she has to kill 10 children for it to be WORTHY.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 04, 2010, 11:30:57 PM
More Delays For Casey Anthony Civil Trial

SNIPPED

Please include a link ***
I found it this time.....
http://www.wftv.com/news/23448637/detail.html

As you know, I do...there is a first for everything & it sure wasnt intentional


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 04, 2010, 11:36:28 PM
More Delays For Casey Anthony Civil Trial

Posted: 12:47 pm EDT May 4, 2010
Updated: 4:58 pm EDT May 4, 2010

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- In the civil case against Casey Anthony, the woman suing Casey for defamation will probably get her day in court before Casey's murder trial. A judge said Tuesday that Casey's civil suit will likely be heard early next year, months before her murder trial.
WFTV’s legal expert said it could taint the jury pool, but the civil trial is not about whether Casey murdered Caylee, so legally there's no reason to hold it up.
Zenaida Gonzalez's lawyers say, if the civil case makes Casey look bad right before her murder trial, that's her problem. The evidence in the two cases overlaps, so the defamation trial could cause problems for Casey Anthony during her murder trial.
“That's not our problem; that's her problem. Our client was an innocent bystander; she got drug into this. She had nothing to do with it. I don't care what problems it creates for Casey Anthony,” attorney Keith Mitnik said.      AMEN TO THAT!
But Casey’s civil case can go first, as the judge said Tuesday, because both trials are not about whether she killed her daughter Caylee, which was the case with the OJ Simpson trials and why his civil trial went after his murder trial.
“It's about whether she falsely accused a now-witness in the case of taking her child,” WFTV legal expert Bill Sheaffer said.
Sheaffer said, if the judge hearing Casey's murder case still has any question about going out of town to look for a jury, this might be the answer.
“The media it is going to attract will taint whatever potential impartial juror that's left in Orange County,” Sheaffer said.
Zenaida's lawyers are largely focusing on evidence uncovered in the murder case: Casey's statements to her parents in jail and her mother's public comments about Caylee's alleged nanny Zenaida Gonzalez, evidence that Casey's father modeled his description of the nanny after his alleged mistress, and Casey's letter to her jail pen pal that just surfaced saying Zenaida didn't do it.
“They could be bombshells in our case,” Mitnik said.
Casey doesn't have to go to her civil trial, but, either way, Sheaffer says, she'll face criticism. If she does attend it’ll be for her clothes and her every move or for having a guilty conscience if she doesn't attend.
http://www.wftv.com/news/23448637/detail.html

Cappy going back to the Depo's of Ant Family " Morgan & Morgan" how can they M&M not " go there" as far as - Criminal Case? Understanding this is a civil suit fighting for ZG and her victimization of person - How can they not go into the criminal case in order for ZG to Win? Which I am hopeful this is a slam dunk for ZG. 
Thinking back to Cindy and George getting their undies in a bunch - I am not going to Answer that question. * then after they had their tantrums BC advised them not disclose info - just say Yes or No. Also being that BC seems to be privy of all court documents and hearings with Team Bahyez .......Criminal. Its again confusing to me.

 



I'm pretty sure all that was agreed to is that they would not to ask if Casey killed Caylee, otherwise there is no choice but to discuss at least the aspect of Casey not reporting Caylee missing & then blaming a fictitious nanny, this Zeneida being fingered by not only Casey placing her at Sawgrass but her parents (namely Cindy) continuing to put it forward to the public.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 05, 2010, 12:10:02 AM
Speaking of .. Florida and the Courts
I missed the majority of the program - was on cable the other night. Unfortunate I cannot recall what cable station it was on. A&E TLC ... can't recall.
However it was the case of Tiffany Cole who is currently the Only woman on Death Row in Florida.
Her ugly mug: http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInmates/Detail.asp?Bookmark=1&From=list&SessionID=23816028

Recent article mentioning Cole and Casey  http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19179372/detail.html
full article:

The prosecution announced Monday its intent to seek the death penalty against Casey Anthony, but historically the state of Florida has been hesitant to put a woman to death.
The state attorney's office initially said it would not seek the death penalty, but changed that decision with a court filing Monday afternoon.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee Anthony.
In nearly 100 years, a Florida jury has sentenced only 16 women to death, and most of those sentences were later thrown out for various legal reasons.

"Very few women are put to death in Florida," defense attorney Jose Baez said. "She's not a serial killer."

There are 392 people sitting on Florida's death row, and only one, Tiffany Cole, is a woman.
Cole was convicted of kidnapping a husband and wife from Duval County and burying them alive.

Two women have been executed in the state of Florida in the past 85 years, serial killer Eileen Wurenos and Judy Buenoano.  Buenoano earned the nickname "The Black Widow" for poisoning her husband with arsenic in 1971. She later drowned her paralyzed son in a lake and tried to blow up her boyfriend with a car bomb.

Anthony is charged with murdering a child, a crime that juries rarely find worth of capital punishment.
A South Carolina jury rejected the death penalty for Susan Smith in 1995. She was convicted of murdering her two young sons.

Andrea Yates was given a life sentence by a Houston jury for drowning her five children in a bath tub. Texas executes more people than any other state.
Orange County prosecutors did not seek the death penalty against Kenya Hill. While already on probation for child abuse, authorities found the body of hill's four-year-old daughter decomposing in a South Orange Blossom Trail motel room that was covered in trash and soaked with urine.

The child's skull had been fractured and she had contusions on her neck.
Hill was convicted of second-degree murder.


not sure if that is Orange County Florida or California. What a Monster.




Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!


The statement in blue ink above has my blood boiling. She just murdered a child, and juries don't think it is worthy of the death penalty??????
If a precious defenseless 2 yr old with her lil head wrapped in duct tape is not worthy, then just who the HELL is? That statement just runs all over me. Geesh ....Well I guess she has to kill 10 children for it to be WORTHY.

It is outrageous that mindset exists, my God if a mother or father is capable of killing their own flesh & blood, I cant think of anything worse that should gauge society's moral compass...geez

You cannot compare Andrea Yates to other parent killers without a longstanding medical history such as she had.  If the writer looked into the case they also would have noted that Andrea Yates life sentence conviction was overturned on appeal (errors) & she is in a psychiatric hospital which makes it an entirely different case with unique but established circumstances.   Personally, I think she knew what she was doing since she had the presence of mind to call 911 after she killed all five of her children not a moment before.

Now, this statement from Bozo is extremely interesting:    "Very few women are put to death in Florida," defense attorney Jose Baez said. "She's not a serial killer."    Hmmm....thanks for the distinction, moron!
No, she is not a serial killer, but what kind of killer is she Bozo?  IMHO Answer:   baby killer


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 05, 2010, 12:50:20 AM
 ::MonkeySlide:: He is a Moron isn't He Bahyez .....

He is but a Nit, you know those little fruit flies .. that comes around, in your kitchen, when your fruit is over ripe. Judge Perry I believe during the " hearing" ..his *anxiety showing with his foot hitting the base of the chair.. from the get. If you watch the hearing when he sits down that Chair is moving behind him.  Every time Bahyez speaks that chair is moving at a faster pace. 

Judge Perry is already "Over it" - before it has even begun in his court room. Can't tell me or anyone that he has not paid attention to this case prior to Honorable Judge Strickland stepping sideways.

* Anxiety meaning frustration -Thoughts possible in Judge Perry's Mind:  Get this Fool out of my Court Room ~same same being flexible first~  I will allow him/Bobo to represent and do his job..He has to prove to me as an Atty he is worthy. Face Me as the Man you Are under Oath as a Atty - don't Play with me.
 
NO Minx of word/thought in this Judges Court Room - But I tell you - I honestly think that Bobo is that Ego driven " He still doesn't get it".  Why? He doesn't care. In all honesty Baez does not care. Now that he has Cheney on Chair - What the hxll is he worried about? Nothing. He can step off at any second and say Cheney is lead.  He knows he is not qualified. The Coffee has been brewing since the hearing with Judge Perry. Its getting hotter and stiffer and BOBO is weighing " HIS" options. Not Casey's.






Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 05, 2010, 01:26:13 AM
Speaking of .. Florida and the Courts
I missed the majority of the program - was on cable the other night. Unfortunate I cannot recall what cable station it was on. A&E TLC ... can't recall.
However it was the case of Tiffany Cole who is currently the Only woman on Death Row in Florida.
Her ugly mug: http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInmates/Detail.asp?Bookmark=1&From=list&SessionID=23816028

Recent article mentioning Cole and Casey  http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19179372/detail.html
full article:

The prosecution announced Monday its intent to seek the death penalty against Casey Anthony, but historically the state of Florida has been hesitant to put a woman to death.
The state attorney's office initially said it would not seek the death penalty, but changed that decision with a court filing Monday afternoon.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee Anthony.
In nearly 100 years, a Florida jury has sentenced only 16 women to death, and most of those sentences were later thrown out for various legal reasons.

"Very few women are put to death in Florida," defense attorney Jose Baez said. "She's not a serial killer."

There are 392 people sitting on Florida's death row, and only one, Tiffany Cole, is a woman.
Cole was convicted of kidnapping a husband and wife from Duval County and burying them alive.

Two women have been executed in the state of Florida in the past 85 years, serial killer Eileen Wurenos and Judy Buenoano.  Buenoano earned the nickname "The Black Widow" for poisoning her husband with arsenic in 1971. She later drowned her paralyzed son in a lake and tried to blow up her boyfriend with a car bomb.

Anthony is charged with murdering a child, a crime that juries rarely find worth of capital punishment.
A South Carolina jury rejected the death penalty for Susan Smith in 1995. She was convicted of murdering her two young sons.

Andrea Yates was given a life sentence by a Houston jury for drowning her five children in a bath tub. Texas executes more people than any other state.
Orange County prosecutors did not seek the death penalty against Kenya Hill. While already on probation for child abuse, authorities found the body of hill's four-year-old daughter decomposing in a South Orange Blossom Trail motel room that was covered in trash and soaked with urine.

The child's skull had been fractured and she had contusions on her neck.
Hill was convicted of second-degree murder.


not sure if that is Orange County Florida or California. What a Monster.




Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!


The statement in blue ink above has my blood boiling. She just murdered a child, and juries don't think it is worthy of the death penalty??????
If a precious defenseless 2 yr old with her lil head wrapped in duct tape is not worthy, then just who the HELL is? That statement just runs all over me. Geesh ....Well I guess she has to kill 10 children for it to be WORTHY.

It is outrageous that mindset exists, my God if a mother or father is capable of killing their own flesh & blood, I cant think of anything worse that should gauge society's moral compass...geez

You cannot compare Andrea Yates to other parent killers without a longstanding medical history such as she had.  If the writer looked into the case they also would have noted that Andrea Yates life sentence conviction was overturned on appeal (errors) & she is in a psychiatric hospital which makes it an entirely different case with unique but established circumstances.   Personally, I think she knew what she was doing since she had the presence of mind to call 911 after she killed all five of her children not a moment before.

Now, this statement from Bozo is extremely interesting:    "Very few women are put to death in Florida," defense attorney Jose Baez said. "She's not a serial killer."    Hmmm....thanks for the distinction, moron!
No, she is not a serial killer, but what kind of killer is she Bozo?  IMHO Answer:   baby killer
Great catch on latest blunder by bozo!  Personally, I believe that the baby killer would have been a serial killer had she had just a bit more time. Serial killer of her immediate family. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 05, 2010, 01:36:18 AM
::MonkeySlide:: He is a Moron isn't He Bahyez .....

He is but a Nit, you know those little fruit flies .. that comes around, in your kitchen, when your fruit is over ripe. Judge Perry I believe during the " hearing" ..his *anxiety showing with his foot hitting the base of the chair.. from the get. If you watch the hearing when he sits down that Chair is moving behind him.  Every time Bahyez speaks that chair is moving at a faster pace. 

Judge Perry is already "Over it" - before it has even begun in his court room. Can't tell me or anyone that he has not paid attention to this case prior to Honorable Judge Strickland stepping sideways.

* Anxiety meaning frustration -Thoughts possible in Judge Perry's Mind:  Get this Fool out of my Court Room ~same same being flexible first~  I will allow him/Bobo to represent and do his job..He has to prove to me as an Atty he is worthy. Face Me as the Man you Are under Oath as a Atty - don't Play with me.
 
NO Minx of word/thought in this Judges Court Room - But I tell you - I honestly think that Bobo is that Ego driven " He still doesn't get it".  Why? He doesn't care. In all honesty Baez does not care. Now that he has Cheney on Chair - What the hxll is he worried about? Nothing. He can step off at any second and say Cheney is lead.  He knows he is not qualified. The Coffee has been brewing since the hearing with Judge Perry. Its getting hotter and stiffer and BOBO is weighing " HIS" options. Not Casey's.





Oh yeah DEENIE, I'm sure JP has seen bozo in action and has heard plenty of cocktail party/watercooler versions of his MORONIC antics. Might be the whole reason he took this case. I don't know how it was determined that JP take over but it was fairly clear that it needed to be a judge sure enough of their position, the law and able to restore order. There's a glut of ego when all the defense lawyers are en masse, Judge Perry seems more than capable of putting a lid on it. 
Can't wait for the next session, hope JP doesn't rock a bolt out of his chair!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 05, 2010, 04:20:03 AM
OH MY  ::MonkeyLaugh:: MizJay - Can't you just see it ... Judge Perry losing his bolts ON Baez

That would be Justice wouldn't it. That would make for a Beautiful Day in Orlando :)

 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 05, 2010, 05:49:27 AM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/05/casey-anthony-family-will-like.html
WDBO Local News      
Casey Anthony family will likely face tough question just before murder trial
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ May 5, 2010 5:00 AM Permalink | Comments (0)
Casey Anthony will likely go on trial twice in the first half of next year.
After a procedural hearing Tuesday lawyers for the woman who's suing her said they believe the civil case will happen in the first part of 2011.  Her murder trial is set for May 2011.

Having the trials in that order and so close together could present problems to the defense, experts say.

Casey Anthony can avoid answering potentially damaging questions during the civil trial, but her family likely cannot.

"If they are witnesses on a case and they choose not to answer, they can be subject to penalties," said attorney Mark NeJame.

Members of the Anthony family could be held in contempt of court for not answering questions, NeJame said. 

Casey's lawyers have said holding the civil case before the murder case could contaminate potential jurors.  Keith Mitnik, attorney for Zenaida Gonzalez, the woman who's suing Casey for defamation, has little sympathy.

"That's their problem," Mitnik said Tuesday. "They didn't need to drag our client into in.  We wouldn't be here."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 05, 2010, 05:52:53 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/050410-casey-anthony
Casey Anthony civil suit pre-trial

Updated: Tuesday, 04 May 2010, 6:35 PM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 04 May 2010, 12:22 PM EDT

By NICK FOKIANOS | FOX 35 News

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - The case against suspected child killer Casey Anthony returns to court this week.

A hearing, scheduled Tuesday afternoon, was to focus on the civil case involving Zenaida Gonzalez.  Gonzalez filed a defamation lawsuit against Anthony, claiming she ruined her reputation.  A trial was scheduled to begin this summer, but attorneys for both Anthony and Gonzalez filed motions to postpone proceedings.

Orange Circuit Court Judge Jose R. Rodriguez did not set a set but indicated that the trial would likely begin next year, sometime ahead of Anthony's murder trial, scheduled to begin in May.
"I suspect there will be overlap. That's not our problem, that's her problem,"  said Keith Mitnik, one of the attorneys representing Gonzalez. "Our lady was an innocent bystander who got drug into this ... nothing whatsoever to do with it.  Frankly, I don't care what problems it creates for Casey Anthony.
<snipped>


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 05, 2010, 07:25:10 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
05/04/2010           Motion
to Seal All Justice Administration Commission Documents
05/04/2010           Motion
Amended Motion for Justice Administration Commission (JAC) Hearing & Motion for Approval of Out of State Mitigation Specialist & Expert WItnesses
05/06/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Justice Commission Budget Hearing
05/10/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Motions
05/11/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Pending Motions on Death Penalty


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 05, 2010, 07:29:33 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/5/4/caseys_defamation_case_heads_to_court.html
 Zenaida’s Day In Court With Casey Coming Next Year?
Wednesday, May 05, 2010 7:24:10 AM
Reported by Jacqueline Fell

ORLANDO -- The woman who is suing Casey Anthony for defamation may get her day in court next year.
   
Attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez say they expect the case to be heard in early 2011.  That’s months before Casey Anthony faces charges of first-degree murder.

Gonzalez's attorneys said they're frustrated with how slow the process is moving, and they want their client to have her day in court already.
   
Gonzalez is suing Anthony for monetary damages.
   
She said when Anthony named her daughter’s accused kidnapper the same name, Zenaida Gonzalez, her life was ruined.
   
Her attorneys are fighting to clear her name and make Anthony pay for what they say she did.

"I consider the magnitude of what she went through to be great and I will be asking [for] a significant amount of money to recognize it," said Keith Mitnik, Gonzalez’s attorney.

Mitnik would not comment on an exact amount.
He also isn't saying much about Zenaida.  News 13 asked if she was working, and his response was that while he's working to clear her name, he wants to protect her privacy.
   
Mitnik says he is looking to talk to Casey's jailhouse pen pal as well.

This case is no stranger to drama.

You may remember the heated depositions of Cindy and George Anthony taken at Morgan and Morgan where both Gonzalez's attorneys and the Anthonys went back and forth in argument.

Cindy said there was no way this Zenaida was "Zanny the Nanny."  Cindy told Gonzalez, "I'm sorry ma'am. You're cute, but you’re not a 10."

Law enforcement officials have said in the past there is no real Zenaida.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 05, 2010, 08:42:57 AM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/05/casey-anthony-family-will-like.html
WDBO Local News      
Casey Anthony family will likely face tough question just before murder trial
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ May 5, 2010 5:00 AM Permalink | Comments (0)
Casey Anthony will likely go on trial twice in the first half of next year.
After a procedural hearing Tuesday lawyers for the woman who's suing her said they believe the civil case will happen in the first part of 2011.  Her murder trial is set for May 2011.

Having the trials in that order and so close together could present problems to the defense, experts say.

Casey Anthony can avoid answering potentially damaging questions during the civil trial, but her family likely cannot.

"If they are witnesses on a case and they choose not to answer, they can be subject to penalties," said attorney Mark NeJame.

Members of the Anthony family could be held in contempt of court for not answering questions, NeJame said. 

Casey's lawyers have said holding the civil case before the murder case could contaminate potential jurors.  Keith Mitnik, attorney for Zenaida Gonzalez, the woman who's suing Casey for defamation, has little sympathy.

"That's their problem," Mitnik said Tuesday. "They didn't need to drag our client into in.  We wouldn't be here."

Good Morning Monks...............I would love to see the A's get slammed for refusing to answer questions........but Judge Rod doesn't strike me as the type to slam a flea!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 05, 2010, 08:44:54 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
05/04/2010           Motion
to Seal All Justice Administration Commission Documents

05/04/2010           Motion
Amended Motion for Justice Administration Commission (JAC) Hearing & Motion for Approval of Out of State Mitigation Specialist & Expert WItnesses
05/06/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Justice Commission Budget Hearing
05/10/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Motions
05/11/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Pending Motions on Death Penalty


I would like to submit a Motion to DUCT TAPE BOZO's MOUTH!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cookie on May 05, 2010, 09:24:29 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
05/04/2010           Motion
to Seal All Justice Administration Commission Documents

05/04/2010           Motion
Amended Motion for Justice Administration Commission (JAC) Hearing & Motion for Approval of Out of State Mitigation Specialist & Expert WItnesses
05/06/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Justice Commission Budget Hearing
05/10/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Motions
05/11/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Pending Motions on Death Penalty


I would like to submit a Motion to DUCT TAPE BOZO's MOUTH!!

I second that!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on May 05, 2010, 09:24:34 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
05/04/2010           Motion
to Seal All Justice Administration Commission Documents

05/04/2010           Motion
Amended Motion for Justice Administration Commission (JAC) Hearing & Motion for Approval of Out of State Mitigation Specialist & Expert WItnesses
05/06/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Justice Commission Budget Hearing
05/10/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Motions
05/11/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Pending Motions on Death Penalty


I would like to submit a Motion to DUCT TAPE BOZO's MOUTH!!

 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 05, 2010, 09:44:45 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
05/04/2010           Motion
to Seal All Justice Administration Commission Documents

05/04/2010           Motion
Amended Motion for Justice Administration Commission (JAC) Hearing & Motion for Approval of Out of State Mitigation Specialist & Expert WItnesses
05/06/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Justice Commission Budget Hearing
05/10/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Motions
05/11/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Pending Motions on Death Penalty


I would like to submit a Motion to DUCT TAPE BOZO's MOUTH!!

 ::MonkeyDevil::

I'll 2nd that!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 05, 2010, 09:53:06 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
05/04/2010           Motion
to Seal All Justice Administration Commission Documents

05/04/2010           Motion
Amended Motion for Justice Administration Commission (JAC) Hearing & Motion for Approval of Out of State Mitigation Specialist & Expert WItnesses
05/06/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Justice Commission Budget Hearing
05/10/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Motions
05/11/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Pending Motions on Death Penalty


I would like to submit a Motion to DUCT TAPE BOZO's MOUTH!!

 ::MonkeyDevil::

I'll 2nd that!!!!!!

I'm sorry cookie, just saw your post........I'll 3rd that!!!!! ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 05, 2010, 10:12:05 AM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/05/casey-anthony-family-will-like.html
WDBO Local News      
Casey Anthony family will likely face tough question just before murder trial
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ May 5, 2010 5:00 AM Permalink | Comments (0)
Casey Anthony will likely go on trial twice in the first half of next year.
After a procedural hearing Tuesday lawyers for the woman who's suing her said they believe the civil case will happen in the first part of 2011.  Her murder trial is set for May 2011.

Having the trials in that order and so close together could present problems to the defense, experts say.

Casey Anthony can avoid answering potentially damaging questions during the civil trial, but her family likely cannot.

"If they are witnesses on a case and they choose not to answer, they can be subject to penalties," said attorney Mark NeJame.

Members of the Anthony family could be held in contempt of court for not answering questions, NeJame said. 

Casey's lawyers have said holding the civil case before the murder case could contaminate potential jurors.  Keith Mitnik, attorney for Zenaida Gonzalez, the woman who's suing Casey for defamation, has little sympathy.

"That's their problem," Mitnik said Tuesday. "They didn't need to drag our client into in.  We wouldn't be here."

I'll tell ya this when they perjure themselves (previous testimony) and/or refuse to answer (contempt) in the civil trial with this new date being closer to the murder trial, it will be fresh in every single potential jurors mind & there will be a treasure trove of statements to impeach them on the witness stand during the murder trial (admissible).   So much for delays clouding memories!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 05, 2010, 10:17:10 AM
Speaking of .. Florida and the Courts
I missed the majority of the program - was on cable the other night. Unfortunate I cannot recall what cable station it was on. A&E TLC ... can't recall.
However it was the case of Tiffany Cole who is currently the Only woman on Death Row in Florida.
Her ugly mug: http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInmates/Detail.asp?Bookmark=1&From=list&SessionID=23816028

Recent article mentioning Cole and Casey  http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19179372/detail.html
full article:

The prosecution announced Monday its intent to seek the death penalty against Casey Anthony, but historically the state of Florida has been hesitant to put a woman to death.
The state attorney's office initially said it would not seek the death penalty, but changed that decision with a court filing Monday afternoon.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee Anthony.
In nearly 100 years, a Florida jury has sentenced only 16 women to death, and most of those sentences were later thrown out for various legal reasons.

"Very few women are put to death in Florida," defense attorney Jose Baez said. "She's not a serial killer."

There are 392 people sitting on Florida's death row, and only one, Tiffany Cole, is a woman.
Cole was convicted of kidnapping a husband and wife from Duval County and burying them alive.

Two women have been executed in the state of Florida in the past 85 years, serial killer Eileen Wurenos and Judy Buenoano.  Buenoano earned the nickname "The Black Widow" for poisoning her husband with arsenic in 1971. She later drowned her paralyzed son in a lake and tried to blow up her boyfriend with a car bomb.

Anthony is charged with murdering a child, a crime that juries rarely find worth of capital punishment.
A South Carolina jury rejected the death penalty for Susan Smith in 1995. She was convicted of murdering her two young sons.

Andrea Yates was given a life sentence by a Houston jury for drowning her five children in a bath tub. Texas executes more people than any other state.
Orange County prosecutors did not seek the death penalty against Kenya Hill. While already on probation for child abuse, authorities found the body of hill's four-year-old daughter decomposing in a South Orange Blossom Trail motel room that was covered in trash and soaked with urine.

The child's skull had been fractured and she had contusions on her neck.
Hill was convicted of second-degree murder.


not sure if that is Orange County Florida or California. What a Monster.

Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!

The statement in blue ink above has my blood boiling. She just murdered a child, and juries don't think it is worthy of the death penalty??????
If a precious defenseless 2 yr old with her lil head wrapped in duct tape is not worthy, then just who the HELL is? That statement just runs all over me. Geesh ....Well I guess she has to kill 10 children for it to be WORTHY.

It is outrageous that mindset exists, my God if a mother or father is capable of killing their own flesh & blood, I cant think of anything worse that should gauge society's moral compass...geez

You cannot compare Andrea Yates to other parent killers without a longstanding medical history such as she had.  If the writer looked into the case they also would have noted that Andrea Yates life sentence conviction was overturned on appeal (errors) & she is in a psychiatric hospital which makes it an entirely different case with unique but established circumstances.   Personally, I think she knew what she was doing since she had the presence of mind to call 911 after she killed all five of her children not a moment before.

Now, this statement from Bozo is extremely interesting:    "Very few women are put to death in Florida," defense attorney Jose Baez said. "She's not a serial killer."    Hmmm....thanks for the distinction, moron!
No, she is not a serial killer, but what kind of killer is she Bozo?  IMHO Answer:   baby killer
Great catch on latest blunder by bozo!  Personally, I believe that the baby killer would have been a serial killer had she had just a bit more time. Serial killer of her immediate family. 

Miz, early on I had the same thought - especially after hearing about computer searches months in advance & Casey's story about her getting the house she told Amy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 05, 2010, 10:24:07 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
05/04/2010           Motion
to Seal All Justice Administration Commission Documents

05/04/2010           Motion
Amended Motion for Justice Administration Commission (JAC) Hearing & Motion for Approval of Out of State Mitigation Specialist & Expert WItnesses
05/06/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Justice Commission Budget Hearing
05/10/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Motions
05/11/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Pending Motions on Death Penalty


I would like to submit a Motion to DUCT TAPE BOZO's MOUTH!!

 ::MonkeyDevil::

I'll 2nd that!!!!!!

I'm sorry cookie, just saw your post........I'll 3rd that!!!!! ::MonkeyGavel::

My, my, my....for attorneys that insist on her innocence they sure do go out of their way to attempt to seal everything (this is getting way old).   In my view, innocent people do not hide under a rock, but shout from the rooftops.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 05, 2010, 12:10:15 PM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!


If the tax payers of Florida are the ones to have to pay for her trial, I  think they have every right to be able to see the JAC documents. What is Bozo trying to hide? What are they working so hard to hide?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sister on May 05, 2010, 12:19:09 PM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!


If the tax payers of Florida are the ones to have to pay for her trial, I  think they have every right to be able to see the JAC documents. What is Bozo trying to hide? What are they working so hard to hide?

darla, they don't call it the Sunshine State for nothing!
 :sunny:
 ::monkeydust::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 05, 2010, 01:05:21 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/23461168/detail.html
Anthony Defense Wants Funding Records Sealed
Hearing Slated For Thursday Morning

POSTED: 11:59 am EDT May 5, 2010
UPDATED: 12:55 pm EDT May 5, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
Casey Anthony's lawyers are asking the judge to seal all state records indicating how her defense is funded.

In a new motion, Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, argues public disclosure of invoices they submit for reimbursement will lead to "rampant speculation as to the defense strategy."

Now that Anthony has been declared indigent, she qualifies to reimburse with state tax dollars for certain expenses.

Judge Belvin Perry is holding a hearing on the issue Thursday morning.
Casey Anthony is in the Orange County Jail being held on no bond on charges of murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

Caylee's remains were found in a wooded area off Suburban Drive near the Anthony family home in December 2008.

Anthony maintains a nanny by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 05, 2010, 01:13:22 PM
The judge better not seal those records, the good people of Florida have every right to see this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Girlzrock on May 05, 2010, 01:20:17 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/23461168/detail.html
Anthony Defense Wants Funding Records Sealed
Hearing Slated For Thursday Morning

POSTED: 11:59 am EDT May 5, 2010
UPDATED: 12:55 pm EDT May 5, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
Casey Anthony's lawyers are asking the judge to seal all state records indicating how her defense is funded.

In a new motion, Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, argues public disclosure of invoices they submit for reimbursement will lead to "rampant speculation as to the defense strategy."

Now that Anthony has been declared indigent, she qualifies to reimburse with state tax dollars for certain expenses.

Judge Belvin Perry is holding a hearing on the issue Thursday morning.
Casey Anthony is in the Orange County Jail being held on no bond on charges of murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

Caylee's remains were found in a wooded area off Suburban Drive near the Anthony family home in December 2008.

Anthony maintains a nanny by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee.


Man!  Baez thinks he is Perry Mason.  Surprise (dun-dun-duuun) "And that is the killer your honor"!  Who cares who speculates on whatever.  If she is innocent, the prosecution will not be able to get a conviction.  I know it is the way the judicial system works these days, but sheesh... its like a game.  Am I wrong, or isn't the burden of proof on the State?  Isn't Baez's job to DEFEND against proof of her guilt?  Or is it to trick / surprise the state and everyone else into some kind of technical whatever to get a guilty person off?   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Girlzrock on May 05, 2010, 01:22:31 PM
Oh, sorry for my poor manners.  Good morning left coast monkeys, and good afternoon for the rest!  I just  get a little riled up when I read about team Baez and all their crapola.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Girlzrock on May 05, 2010, 01:25:40 PM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!


If the tax payers of Florida are the ones to have to pay for her trial, I  think they have every right to be able to see the JAC documents. What is Bozo trying to hide? What are they working so hard to hide?

I agree 100%, Darla!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 05, 2010, 01:42:10 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/23461168/detail.html
Anthony Defense Wants Funding Records Sealed
Hearing Slated For Thursday Morning

POSTED: 11:59 am EDT May 5, 2010
UPDATED: 12:55 pm EDT May 5, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
Casey Anthony's lawyers are asking the judge to seal all state records indicating how her defense is funded.

In a new motion, Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, argues public disclosure of invoices they submit for reimbursement will lead to "rampant speculation as to the defense strategy."

Now that Anthony has been declared indigent, she qualifies to reimburse with state tax dollars for certain expenses.

Judge Belvin Perry is holding a hearing on the issue Thursday morning.
Casey Anthony is in the Orange County Jail being held on no bond on charges of murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

Caylee's remains were found in a wooded area off Suburban Drive near the Anthony family home in December 2008.

Anthony maintains a nanny by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee.


Man!  Baez thinks he is Perry Mason.  Surprise (dun-dun-duuun) "And that is the killer your honor"!  Who cares who speculates on whatever.  If she is innocent, the prosecution will not be able to get a conviction.  I know it is the way the judicial system works these days, but sheesh... its like a game.  Am I wrong, or isn't the burden of proof on the State?  Isn't Baez's job to DEFEND against proof of her guilt?  Or is it to trick / surprise the state and everyone else into some kind of technical whatever to get a guilty person off?   
GIRLZ ~  Exactly!   I think the wording was similar in one of the other motions ( the visitor list) that the defense strategy would be compromised.  It's pretty obvious that there is going to be some trick or frame up .   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 05, 2010, 03:01:36 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/23461168/detail.html
Anthony Defense Wants Funding Records Sealed
Hearing Slated For Thursday Morning

POSTED: 11:59 am EDT May 5, 2010
UPDATED: 12:55 pm EDT May 5, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
Casey Anthony's lawyers are asking the judge to seal all state records indicating how her defense is funded.

In a new motion, Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, argues public disclosure of invoices they submit for reimbursement will lead to "rampant speculation as to the defense strategy."

Now that Anthony has been declared indigent, she qualifies to reimburse with state tax dollars for certain expenses.

Judge Belvin Perry is holding a hearing on the issue Thursday morning.
Casey Anthony is in the Orange County Jail being held on no bond on charges of murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

Caylee's remains were found in a wooded area off Suburban Drive near the Anthony family home in December 2008.

Anthony maintains a nanny by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee.

In a new motion, Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, argues public disclosure of invoices they submit for reimbursement will lead to "rampant speculation as to the defense strategy."   ::MonkeyNoNo::  He does like to think he is important and smart.  The only speculation right now is WHO the defense will be throwing under the bus.  I think it is the defense who within themselves have rampant speculation as the defense strategy if they can not even agree whether they wish the jury to be sequestered or not. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 05, 2010, 03:15:58 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/23461168/detail.html
Anthony Defense Wants Funding Records Sealed
Hearing Slated For Thursday Morning

POSTED: 11:59 am EDT May 5, 2010
UPDATED: 12:55 pm EDT May 5, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
Casey Anthony's lawyers are asking the judge to seal all state records indicating how her defense is funded.

In a new motion, Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, argues public disclosure of invoices they submit for reimbursement will lead to "rampant speculation as to the defense strategy."

Now that Anthony has been declared indigent, she qualifies to reimburse with state tax dollars for certain expenses.

Judge Belvin Perry is holding a hearing on the issue Thursday morning.
Casey Anthony is in the Orange County Jail being held on no bond on charges of murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

Caylee's remains were found in a wooded area off Suburban Drive near the Anthony family home in December 2008.

Anthony maintains a nanny by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee.

In a new motion, Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, argues public disclosure of invoices they submit for reimbursement will lead to "rampant speculation as to the defense strategy."   ::MonkeyNoNo::  He does like to think he is important and smart.  The only speculation right now is WHO the defense will be throwing under the bus.  I think it is the defense who within themselves have rampant speculation as the defense strategy if they can not even agree whether they wish the jury to be sequestered or not. 
::MonkeyHaHa::  I kinda think that there's division in the ranks about jury sequestration because of the personal agendas each one of those blowhards have going on. Some want to showboat, putting their own spin on the daily proceedings  hoping that they get seen by a juror or somebody close to the juror who relays it , maybe others want the jurors to sit by themselves fretting over giving the ultimate punishment.....it's all about them if you ask me


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: loca on May 05, 2010, 03:24:56 PM
casey will die of old age before this case goes to trial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 05, 2010, 03:32:43 PM
Maybe  this push to be secretive about the people contacting kc and the defense strategy is the theory that's been floated for so long. The shove of C & G under the bus. Maybe if they and their constant companion Conman started seeing THEIR friends/family/coworkers etc, show up a witness list, they would get it. ?  Is it too late for all that? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Gizzie on May 05, 2010, 03:40:30 PM
casey will die of old age before this case goes to trial.

Or we will!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 05, 2010, 04:09:19 PM
casey will die of old age before this case goes to trial.

Or we will!  ::MonkeyNoNo::
That is what I was thinking  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: klaasend on May 05, 2010, 04:15:37 PM
casey will die of old age before this case goes to trial.

Or we will!  ::MonkeyNoNo::
That is what I was thinking  ::MonkeyNoNo::

And if the trial was held in California and she got the death penalty, she would die of old age before she would be put to death.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 05, 2010, 04:25:11 PM
casey will die of old age before this case goes to trial.

Or we will!  ::MonkeyNoNo::
That is what I was thinking  ::MonkeyNoNo::

And if the trial was held in California and she got the death penalty, she would die of old age before she would be put to death.
That is very true. Might as well abolish the death penalty in this state.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 05, 2010, 05:50:28 PM

I'll tell ya this when they perjure themselves (previous testimony) and/or refuse to answer (contempt) in the civil trial with this new date being closer to the murder trial, it will be fresh in every single potential jurors mind & there will be a treasure trove of statements to impeach them on the witness stand during the murder trial (admissible).   So much for delays clouding memories!

I am thinking this may be why everyone is so amicable to postponing this until closer to the murder trial. If BOZO had been half a lawyer he would NEVER have filed a counter suit on that lawsuit. BOZO could have just let that go to judgment against KC as she stood NOTHING to loose by having that against her. By filing that counter lawsuit, he opened up a can of worms for her and her family. 

When the Anthony's all go to jail for perjury and being involved, they have STUPID BOZO to thank.......................

He was too afraid he was going to loose some of that money he was thinking he was going to "rake in" for KC and in the end will be the nails in her coffin over $15,000.  He has to be the world's most stupid lawyer setting his client up for that..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 05, 2010, 06:03:30 PM

I'll tell ya this when they perjure themselves (previous testimony) and/or refuse to answer (contempt) in the civil trial with this new date being closer to the murder trial, it will be fresh in every single potential jurors mind & there will be a treasure trove of statements to impeach them on the witness stand during the murder trial (admissible).   So much for delays clouding memories!

I am thinking this may be why everyone is so amicable to postponing this until closer to the murder trial. If BOZO had been half a lawyer he would NEVER have filed a counter suit on that lawsuit. BOZO could have just let that go to judgment against KC as she stood NOTHING to loose by having that against her. By filing that counter lawsuit, he opened up a can of worms for her and her family. 

When the Anthony's all go to jail for perjury and being involved, they have STUPID BOZO to thank.......................

He was too afraid he was going to loose some of that money he was thinking he was going to "rake in" for KC and in the end will be the nails in her coffin over $15,000.  He has to be the world's most stupid lawyer setting his client up for that..
He really shoulda watched Forrest Gump more often...." stupid is as stupid does"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: loca on May 05, 2010, 06:20:12 PM
casey will die of old age before this case goes to trial.

Or we will!  ::MonkeyNoNo::
That is what I was thinking  ::MonkeyNoNo::

And if the trial was held in California and she got the death penalty, she would die of old age before she would be put to death.
That is very true. Might as well abolish the death penalty in this state.

I live in california and am so familiar with that statement. Theres been a man !! last name morales on death row since  the late 70's for the murder of a young woman.  he appealed saying that it was a cruel way to die(Needle)
how cruel is it when they can commit such horrible violent crimes and  expect special treatment. I wished they used the elec chair in all executions hell with the needle. When I lived in wa state another man on death row was sposed to die by hanging. He delibrately gained alot of weight and  appealed that it was cruel and unjust way to die. So I think maybe  other than the electric chair ! they need to die like gary gilmore in texas! died by the firing squad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 05, 2010, 06:24:19 PM
casey will die of old age before this case goes to trial.

Or we will!  ::MonkeyNoNo::
That is what I was thinking  ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: yup


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 05, 2010, 06:38:30 PM
casey will die of old age before this case goes to trial.

Or we will!  ::MonkeyNoNo::
That is what I was thinking  ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: yup

I'm tellings yas right here & now, if I pass before Casey is convicted I swear Im coming back daily to haunt the Anthonys, my wings will just have to wait.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 05, 2010, 07:14:58 PM
Motion to Seal All Justice Administration Commission Documents
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/37483721/20100504-Motion-to-Seal-All-JAC-Documents

Amended MOTION FOR JUSTICE ADMINISTRATION Commission
HEARING AND MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF OUT OF STATE MITIGATION
SPECIALIST AND EXPERT WITNESSES
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/37484564/05042010-AMENDED-MOTION-FOR-JUSTICE-ADMINISTRATION-COMMISSlON-HEARING-AND-MOTION-For-Approval-Of-Out-Of-State-Mitigation-Specialist-and-Expert-Witnesses

Found this at WS  http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103954


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 05, 2010, 07:15:34 PM
In regards to possibly throwing CinCin or George under the bus:  Wonder if the Defense wants the ob/gyn who delivered Caylee to testify as to what, if any, emotional pressure, etc. Casey was experiencing from them? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 05, 2010, 08:23:08 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-motions-20100505,0,3558554.story
Casey Anthony defense wants documents sealed to keep strategy private
The defense team's request for various funding would lead to speculation, her attorneys argued.

 By Sarah Lundy, Orlando Sentinel
3:22 p.m. EDT, May 5, 2010
Hoping to keep their defense strategy under wraps, Casey Anthony's attorneys are asking a judge to seal documents related to the state-funded office that approves costs for indigent defendants.

"Documents and requests for funding will lead to endless speculation as to the defense strategy for defending Miss Anthony and could ultimately affect her right to a fair trial," defense attorney Jose Baez wrote in a motion made public today.

The defense's budget will be the focus of Thursday's hearing before Orange-Osceola Chief Judge Belvin Perry. He'll listen to how much her legal team expects to spend defending the 24-year-old of first-degree murder. The state is seeking the death penalty, which adds costs to her defense.

Perry, who took over the case last month, will hear from the Justice Administrative Commission on how much it's willing to use public money for her defense costs. The JAC is responsible for those payments.

JAC Executive Director Victoria Montanaro could not be reached for comment.

Casey Anthony is accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Marie, in 2008. A medical examiner ruled her death a homicide but it could not determine how she died.

Casey Anthony is being held in the Orange County Jail.
In March, a judge ruled the state could pay for certain expenses related to her murder case. Those do not include attorney fees.

Defense attorneys now want Perry's approval to continue using:

• Out-of-state experts. They're not identified in the legal request but have worked hours inspecting evidence and reviewing more than 14,000 pages of investigative material.

Typically, the justice commission requires defense attorneys to use in-state experts but this is an "extraordinary case," the defense team argued.

• Mortimer Smith, an Illinois private investigator who has worked on the case for more than a year. The defense team would use him to investigate witnesses and issues that are out of the state. Florida-licensed investigators would follow up on in-state issues.

• And mitigation specialist, Jeanene Barrett, who has logged hundreds of hours learning about Anthony's life history. The defense argues it would be too costly to replace her at this point.

Her work becomes critical if Casey Anthony is found guilty of murder. During the penalty phase of the trial, the defense will present reasons why the single mother should not get the death penalty.

All agreed to be paid the financial rates outlined by the JAC.

Thursday's court appearance is the first in a string of hearings scheduled by Perry.

Another one on Monday will focus on several pending defense motions, such as a request for change of venue, a request to keep a jury from seeing party pictures of Casey Anthony and a request to keep jail visitation logs private.
A hearing Tuesday will deal death penalty motions.

Sarah Lundy can be reached at slundy@orlandosentinel.com and 407-420-6218.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on May 05, 2010, 08:28:54 PM
Is Baez trying to test the new judge? 

I'll bet the taxpayers of Fla are....  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on May 05, 2010, 08:33:15 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/23465730/detail.html

Casey's Attorneys Want Spending Kept Private

Quote
But, instead of opting for a public defender back then, only two months after Caylee had disappeared, Casey sold all of her own videos and photos of Caylee to ABC for $200,000 and two of her attorneys, one of whom has since left the case, raised another $140,000.

That money is gone now and taxpayers have no idea where all of it went. But now the defense wants to keep its future spending of tax money on her behalf a secret.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on May 05, 2010, 08:42:34 PM
Good evening Monks,
     I'm exhausted but wanted to chime in. Personally, I don't think Judge Berry is going to approve any of Bozo's motions.
Secondly, why does the duhfense need out of state experts? There's no reason for it. I'm sure if they put their little heads together they could very easily find expert witnesses that reside in the state of Florida. I'm sure The Jar, with all of his connections, knows plenty of them.

Furthermore, I really have my doubts that this particular civil case will be heard before the criminal case. I just don't see that happening.

As an aside, I just turned on NG which is sponsored tonight by Preparation H. I thought that was hilarious and very fitting.
Here comes the thunder. Hope the lights stay on. I'm in no mood to reset all the alarm clocks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 05, 2010, 09:05:25 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2010m5d5-Casey-Anthony-news-Judge-Perry-keeps-case-on-track-releases-strict-case-schedule-read-documents
Casey Anthony news: Judge Perry keeps case on track, releases strict case schedule (read motion)
May 5, 8:24 PMCrime ExaminerCindy Adams


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 05, 2010, 09:06:19 PM
Preparation H....          ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on May 05, 2010, 09:30:47 PM
Preparation H....          ::MonkeyJnBox::

Lol! I know. It just struck me so funny! How apropos!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 05, 2010, 09:43:06 PM
Preparation H....          ::MonkeyJnBox::

Lol! I know. It just struck me so funny! How apropos!


 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Babybear on May 05, 2010, 09:47:10 PM
Preparation H....          ::MonkeyJnBox::

Lol! I know. It just struck me so funny! How apropos!

IMO Nancy Grace is some kind of ghoul.  She loves to say things like, "A blood-soaked pillow and a body still warm."  And, "Double-bagged and thrown away like trash."  She needs to apply that Preparation H to her mouth. 

While she has stopped her coverage of Caylee's murder, she has from time to time indicated pity for George and Cindy.  That and her vampirish expressions like, "Is mommy in the lake?" are too much for me to take.  I'm tired of her, I'm tired of her twins, I'm tired of her "I'm a crime victim, too." I hear when she was a prosecutor in Atlanta specializing in homicides, she never lost a case.  Sometimes if a jury doesn't like one of the lawyers, they will vote for the other side.  I wonder how in the world she won all of those cases because I find her singularly unlikeable.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Love2Read on May 05, 2010, 10:19:58 PM
Preparation H....          ::MonkeyJnBox::

Lol! I know. It just struck me so funny! How apropos!


 ::MonkeyJnBox::


 ::MonkeyJnBox::   Too funny!   I hope Bozo needs some kind of butt cream after tomorrow with the judge. ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 05, 2010, 11:12:32 PM
Good evening Monks,
     I'm exhausted but wanted to chime in. Personally, I don't think Judge Berry is going to approve any of Bozo's motions.
Secondly, why does the duhfense need out of state experts? There's no reason for it. I'm sure if they put their little heads together they could very easily find expert witnesses that reside in the state of Florida. I'm sure The Jar, with all of his connections, knows plenty of them.

Furthermore, I really have my doubts that this particular civil case will be heard before the criminal case. I just don't see that happening.

As an aside, I just turned on NG which is sponsored tonight by Preparation H. I thought that was hilarious and very fitting.
Here comes the thunder. Hope the lights stay on. I'm in no mood to reset all the alarm clocks.

Morty is tied to DePaul and Lyon.  Maybe a way to get DePaul out of its financial challege and some money back to Ms Lyon's little study group/Center for Justice  that is associated with DePaul as well?  If Morty makes money the Ms Lyon and her Center for Justice as well as DePaul all benefit.  What a small quait world they all live in.

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He is the co-founder of, and primary instructor for, the Certified Criminal Defense Investigation Program at DePaul University College of Professional and Continuing Education. Mr. Smith is also an adjunct Professor in the Criminal Justice Department at Westwood College in Chicago, IL. Mr. Smith teaches trial preparation investigation and post trial investigation to 2nd and 3rd year law school students at the Center for Justice in Capital Cases/DePaul University College of Law.

http://www.mortsmith.com/



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 05, 2010, 11:21:23 PM
Well, I'm packing up for a trip back to Jersey for babygirl's graduation, leaving in the morning so I'll probably miss most of the hearing live BUT I got a surprise present from hubby for the trip.   He bought me a Dell laptop WOO HOO!   So between traveling and a bit on the long weekend plate, I'll at least be able to view it somewhere in between.   FWIW, my prediction is that most of the defense motions will be denied & they will have to make quite a few compromises in who they continue to or expect to use as expert witnesses - hey, they asked for it. 

Interesting the defense motion speaks to how many hours the mitigation specialist has already worked on the case & ascertained God knows from Casey & her family (I would imagine she is also interviewing family, ex-friends)...what does that speak to?   I say it is a large indicator that they anticipate a conviction which goes against everything they have been putting out to the public.   My personal view on this, I really dont care how much they make a soap opera of her sorry life to save it just so long as she gets convicted of felony murder & never sees civilization again, I can live with that.

I'll start the ball rolling early....Justice for Caylee  ::MonkeyGavel::    Have a nice evening, I'll check in when I can.


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Post by: Northern Rose on May 05, 2010, 11:23:31 PM
Good evening Monks,
     I'm exhausted but wanted to chime in. Personally, I don't think Judge Berry is going to approve any of Bozo's motions.
Secondly, why does the duhfense need out of state experts? There's no reason for it. I'm sure if they put their little heads together they could very easily find expert witnesses that reside in the state of Florida. I'm sure The Jar, with all of his connections, knows plenty of them.

Furthermore, I really have my doubts that this particular civil case will be heard before the criminal case. I just don't see that happening.

As an aside, I just turned on NG which is sponsored tonight by Preparation H. I thought that was hilarious and very fitting.
Here comes the thunder. Hope the lights stay on. I'm in no mood to reset all the alarm clocks.

Morty is tied to DePaul and Lyon.  Maybe a way to get DePaul out of its financial challege and some money back to Ms Lyon's little study group/Center for Justice  that is associated with DePaul as well?  If Morty makes money the Ms Lyon and her Center for Justice as well as DePaul all benefit.  What a small quaint world they all live in.

<snipped>


He is the co-founder of, and primary instructor for, the Certified Criminal Defense Investigation Program at DePaul University College of Professional and Continuing Education. Mr. Smith is also an adjunct Professor in the Criminal Justice Department at Westwood College in Chicago, IL. Mr. Smith teaches trial preparation investigation and post trial investigation to 2nd and 3rd year law school students at the Center for Justice in Capital Cases/DePaul University College of Law.

http://www.mortsmith.com/



The other out of state specialist also works for Ms Lyon.  At the surface it would appear that AL seems to really be benefitting by keeping all her people working on this case.  Guess there has to be some way to recoup the $70,000 she says she raised to help pay the defense   ::MonkeyJnBox::

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Jeanene Barrett is the Mitigation Specialist for the Center for Justice in Capital Cases at DePaul University College of Law. Jeanene joined the CJCC in March, 2008 after having worked within the child welfare field for over eleven years. She is also a Criminal Justice adjunct faculty member at Westwood College. Jeanene received her M.A. in Social Work from the University of Chicago School of Social Service Administration, M.S. degree in Human Services Administration from Spertus College, and a B.S. in Criminal Justice from Southern Illinois University, Carbondale.

http://www.law.depaul.edu/centers_institutes/cjcc/forensic_seminar_bios.asp

Also of interest the whole lot fo them did this year

2010 Forensic Seminar for Capital Defense Attorneys
The Center for Justice in Capital Cases
DePaul University College of Law
February 18-19, 2010
Tentative Agenda


Thursday, February 18
11:00 A.M. - 11:30 A.M. Registration 
11:30 A.M.- 11:45 A.M. Andrea Lyon - Opening Remarks
11:45 A.M. - 1:30 P.M. Deja Vishny – False Confessions
1:30 P.M. - 1:45 P.M. Break
1:45 P.M. - 2:30 P.M. Andrea Lyon – People V. Safford: An Appeal Hinged Upon Fingerprint Evidence
2:30 P.M. - 3:30 P.M. David Klucas - DNA Evidence for the Capital Defense Attorney
2:00 P.M. - 3:30 P.M. Cross-Examination of a DNA expert: David Klucas, JD 
3:30 P.M. - 3:45 P.M. Break
3:45 P.M. - 4:30 P.M. Mark Pomerance – Firearm Forensic Evidence
4:30 P.M. - 5:15 P.M. Allan Sincox – Forensic Evidence for Appeals


Friday, February 19
8:00 A.M. - 9:00 A.M. Registration 
9:00 A.M.- 10:45 A.M. Mike O'Kelly – Cell Phone Tower Forensic Issues
10:45 A.M. - 11:00 A.M. Break
11:00 A.M. - 12:00 P.M. Linda Kenney Baden – Junk Science in the Courtroom
12:00 P.M. - 1:15 P.M. Working Lunch: Dr. Michael Baden: Forensic Evidence and the Media 1:15 P.M. - 1:30 P.M. Break
1:30 P.M. - 2:30 P.M. Robert Berk - Gunshot Residue
2:30 P.M. - 3:30 P.M. Dr. Leo Shea – Mitigation and Psychology
3:30 P.M. - 3:45 P.M. Break
3:45 P.M. - 4:45 P.M. Carol Brook – Ethical Issues Arising From Brady V. Maryland

http://www.law.depaul.edu/centers_institutes/cjcc/forensic_seminar.asp


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Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 12:12:31 AM
Casey Anthony: Will the court seal financial records at defense’s request?

What happens at a hearing tomorrow on the budget for Casey Anthony’s case? WFTV-Channel 9 and WESH-Channel 2 disagreed in their analyses this evening.

The defense wants records sealed on how it spends public money to defend Anthony, who is indigent. She is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

In a new motion, Anthony attorney Jose Baez says if the defense’s invoices become public, that could prompt “endless speculation.”

WESH-Channel 2 suggested that Chief Circuit Judge Belvin Perry Jr. is likely to see it Baez’s way. Orlando attorney Richard Hornsby told WESH that Baez’s motion was a fair request and that the public could know the amount of money without the details.

WESH’s Bob Kealing noted that Perry has said he doesn’t need to know details, just the costs.

WESH anchor Jim Payne added, “Attorneys we’ve spoken with said they expect Judge Perry to set aside a pot of money. How much we will find out tomorrow.”

But WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said, “The court is not likely to grant this motion and seal all of the financial records away from the very people that are footing that bill. That’s you, that’s me, that’s the taxpayers.” 

Sheaffer found the defense’s motion “rather disingenuous,”  especially the point about “endless speculation.”

“It’s Mr. Baez who keeps going on national TV,  floating the defense theories,” Sheaffer said.

WFTV’s Kathi Belich reported that another defense motion filed today asks the public to pay for out-of-state experts and their travel.   ”Even though state rules say they have to use Florida experts, the defense says it would be more expensive to have new experts start all over again,” Belich said.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/05/casey-anthony-will-the-court-seal-financial-records-at-defenses-request.html


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 06:27:14 AM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony Faces judge Perry Today
05/06/10


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 06:31:03 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/23461168/detail.html
Funding Records Hearing Today In Anthony Case
Hearing Slated For Thursday Morning


POSTED: 11:59 am EDT May 5, 2010
UPDATED: 6:13 am EDT May 6, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
Casey Anthony's lawyers are asking the judge to seal all state records indicating how her defense is funded.

In the new motion, Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, said their case could be compromised if every invoice that they submit for reimbursement from the state becomes a public record.

Baez said the public disclosure of the invoices will lead to "rampant speculation as to the defense strategy."

Now that Anthony has been declared indigent, she qualifies to reimburse with state tax dollars for certain expenses.

Last week, Judge Belvin Perry said Anthony's money matters are urgent because there are two more hearings scheduled for next week, when the defense is likely to have to bring some of their experts to town.

The defense will need to have authorization from the judge to begin spending money. The team also needs to know how much will be available.

Many want to know where the money is coming from.
"In general, I think the public probably has a right to know what they're spending taxpayer money on," one resident said.

The hearing is scheduled for 9 a.m. at the Orange County courthouse. An update on the budget will also be given at the hearing to let the judge know how much they plan to spend on experts.

Defense attorney Richard Hornsby has experience with this situation.

"I think it's a fair request and it's in line with what Judge Perry has already said he would allow them to do," he said.

Anthony is in the Orange County Jail being held on no bond on charges of murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.
Caylee's remains were found in a wooded area off Suburban Drive near the Anthony family home in December 2008.

Anthony maintains a nanny by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee.


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Post by: cookie on May 06, 2010, 07:23:46 AM
Cappys...congrats on your new laptop! I take mine with me everywhere! always connected then!

Justice for Caylee!!!
thanks for all the updates everyone...


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 08:34:36 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-budget-hearing-20100506,0,2997370.story
Casey Anthony returns to court today
 By Sarah Lundy, Orlando Sentinel

6:31 a.m. EDT, May 6, 2010
 os-casey-anthony-budget-hearing-20100506

Casey Anthony will be in court this morning for a hearing that will focus on how much public money will go toward the cost of defense.

At the 9 a.m. hearing, Orange-Osceola Chief Judge Belvin Perry, who took over the case last month, will hear how much her legal team expects to spend defending the 24-year-old of first-degree murder. The state is seeking the death penalty, which increases defense costs.

The Justice Administrative Commission, the state office that is responsible for the payments, will present its side on the costs.

In March, a judge ruled the state could pay for certain expenses, such as expert witnesses, depositions and travel costs, related to her murder case. It does not include attorney fees

Casey Anthony is accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Marie. The toddler disappeared in the summer of 2008. Her remains were discovered in December 2008 less than a mile from her family home in east Orange County.

Casey Anthony is being held in the Orange County Jail.

Her legal team doesn't want to reveal its defense strategy so the attorneys asked Perry to keep the justice commission's documents private. This issue is expected to be addressed today.

"Documents and requests for funding will lead to endless speculation as to the defense strategy for defending Miss Anthony and could ultimately affect her right to a fair trial," defense attorney Jose Baez wrote in a motion.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 08:38:23 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/23465730/detail.html
Casey's Attorneys Want Spending Kept Private
Posted: 4:37 pm EDT May 5, 2010Updated: 7:42 am EDT May 6, 2010
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- WFTV discovered Casey Anthony's attorneys are trying to prevent the public from seeing how much tax money they're spending on Casey's defense.
WATCH LIVE:  Casey Hearing at 9:00am
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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 08:46:09 AM
Can also watch live here.
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19046963/index.html


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Post by: darla on May 06, 2010, 08:47:27 AM
Morning Monkeys and Guest!

Does anyone know if CNN is carrying the hearing this morning. There video was the best on the 30th?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 08:50:33 AM
Morning Monkeys and Guest!

Does anyone know if CNN is carrying the hearing this morning. There video was the best on the 30th?

Darla,I don't know,but I am watching Miss Anthony right now.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 06, 2010, 08:54:52 AM
Thanks Trimm, I have it up on Click Orlando. I see our frumpy librarian is back this morning. She looks a little worse every time she appears.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 06, 2010, 08:57:32 AM

who is the woman sitting beside Casey?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 08:59:45 AM

who is the woman sitting beside Casey?

 ::MonkeyShocked::  I do not know.


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 09:01:14 AM
Morning Monkeys and Guest!

Does anyone know if CNN is carrying the hearing this morning. There video was the best on the 30th?

Darla,I don't know,but I am watching Miss Anthony right now.   ::MonkeyCool::
Morning All.... I love how she gently pushes her brain back into her bun .... omg

Rock N Roll here we go  ::MonkeySlide::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 09:02:35 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image135.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:06:48 AM
..." acertain these documents"  ...????  Baez should have said " obtain " ....         ::MonkeyEek::    oh mercy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:07:57 AM
Am glad JAC is there in person today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 06, 2010, 09:09:02 AM
Oh good Lord....Bozo is running in circles......Where is Mason this morning? Lyon?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:09:41 AM
"pseudo news media"  ....   bloggers?  lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:10:38 AM
His argument is weak, imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 06, 2010, 09:10:43 AM
Quite Frankly, I wish he would STHU.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 09:11:24 AM
Bahyez is using his big boy words today ...
Gawd what does he want Casey to have a cell a the Hilton paid for by the Tax Payers for her lack of humiliation and added comfort.. that she is being treated  or about to be treated so poorly ... by the public and media Boo Hoo  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 09:12:10 AM
"pseudo news media"  ....   bloggers?  lol

What a butt head.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 09:13:08 AM
Oh good Lord....Bozo is running in circles......Where is Mason this morning? Lyon?

I believe that woman sitting next to Casey is Mason's assistant. She was there at the last hearing.

I could be wrong though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:13:32 AM
What in the world is Baez really tying to cover up, I wonder.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 09:15:19 AM
What in the world is Baez really tying to cover up, I wonder.

Whatever it is, it isn't her commissary records. LOL

And he is stuttering his way through it!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 06, 2010, 09:16:33 AM
Judge Perry is getting ready to DENY this motion


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 09:16:43 AM
Bahyez is using his big boy words today ...
Gawd what does he want Casey to have a cell a the Hilton paid for by the Tax Payers for her lack of humiliation and added comfort.. that she is being treated  or about to be treated so poorly ... by the public and media Boo Hoo  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I bet he is gonna wish he had not mentioned The Sentinel....  they will be after him now.     ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 09:17:35 AM
Mason has arrived and taken over the woman's seat next to Casey.


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Post by: joesamas mama on May 06, 2010, 09:18:14 AM
My 6 yo nephew speaks better than Mr Baez.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Post by: Nut44x4 on May 06, 2010, 09:19:04 AM
Me thinks Your Honor has restless leg syndrome ...  ::MonkeyEek:: His chair is shaking, lol.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:19:28 AM
Sentinel lawyer is good.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 09:19:57 AM
Oh good Lord....Bozo is running in circles......Where is Mason this morning? Lyon?

I believe that woman sitting next to Casey is Mason's assistant. She was there at the last hearing.

I could be wrong though.

Her first name is Michelle.I missed the last name.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 09:20:18 AM
Bahyez is using his big boy words today ...
Gawd what does he want Casey to have a cell a the Hilton paid for by the Tax Payers for her lack of humiliation and added comfort.. that she is being treated  or about to be treated so poorly ... by the public and media Boo Hoo  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I bet he is gonna wish he had not mentioned The Sentinel....  they will be after him now.     ::MonkeyCool::
Rachel from O.S. should be Casey's Attorney ............ Girls with Glasses are so Smart  ::MonkeyCool:: She is turning the tone of the Court Room right now. Back to Clarity and This is How it it .............Sunshine Law woo Hoo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:20:26 AM
What in the world is Baez really tying to cover up, I wonder.

Whatever it is, it isn't her commissary records. LOL

And he is stuttering his way through it!


And he began right out of the gate with:  "Judge" the & "Judge" that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: joesamas mama on May 06, 2010, 09:21:00 AM
JAC  ::MonkeyTongue:: SEXY VOICE MAN


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:21:11 AM
Me thinks Your Honor has restless leg syndrome ...  ::MonkeyEek:: His chair is shaking, lol.

I can understand why. lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:22:02 AM
JAC  ::MonkeyTongue:: SEXY VOICE MAN

Very!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 09:22:15 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image145-1.png)

JAC also against the motion of sealing records.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 09:22:28 AM
Me thinks Your Honor has restless leg syndrome ...  ::MonkeyEek:: His chair is shaking, lol.

I can understand why. lol
Watch how he revs it up when Bobo is speaking ........the chair Omg priceless


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:23:38 AM
That is nonsense, Barz!  Pfft...!


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Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 09:24:19 AM
Finally got a shot of the people attending. Looks like George is missing this morning. I see Cindy next to Conway.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image147.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:24:22 AM
**Baez** lol ...    ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: joesamas mama on May 06, 2010, 09:25:05 AM
JAC  ::MonkeyTongue:: SEXY VOICE MAN

Very!
Not bad on the eyes either.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:25:12 AM
Me thinks Your Honor has restless leg syndrome ...  ::MonkeyEek:: His chair is shaking, lol.

I can understand why. lol
Watch how he revs it up when Bobo is speaking ........the chair Omg priceless

I know it ... lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 06, 2010, 09:25:43 AM
We will all be totally insane by the time this moron is done. Can you imagine 6-8 weeks of this babbling idiot? ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 09:27:06 AM
If Jose Baez is so Worried about Casey receiving a fair Trial - He should have stepped down a long time ago...  He is her biggest issue as far as receiving " Fair and impartial" every time he appears in Court he knocks everything backwards ..or to a standstill. Or creates total confusion for everyone ......... ::MonkeyNoNo::  what a a@shat


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:27:09 AM
Baez, etc. really want to overturn Florida laws, imo.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 09:28:26 AM
**Baez** lol ...    ::MonkeyEek::

You lost your focus.....thinking about sexy voice man.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:28:31 AM
We will all be totally insane by the time this moron is done. Can you imagine 6-8 weeks of this babbling idiot? ::MonkeyMad::

No--I have wondered!   My brain has already sustained damage so far from his constant "fog of confusion" ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:29:09 AM
**Baez** lol ...    ::MonkeyEek::

You lost your focus.....thinking about sexy voice man.   ::MonkeyTongue::

You got that right!  lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 09:29:44 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image151-1.png)


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Post by: BooMonkey on May 06, 2010, 09:32:06 AM
What is Judge Perry's address? I want  to send him my heart!! I love this guy!   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 09:32:42 AM
Another motion being turned down!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on May 06, 2010, 09:32:42 AM
Good morning, Monkeys!  I think Judge Perry has his mind made up already.  He's got law citations (if that's the correct phrase,) at his fingertips to back up his opinion.  I'm lovin' me some Judge P!
 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: joesamas mama on May 06, 2010, 09:33:11 AM
**Baez** lol ...    ::MonkeyEek::

You lost your focus.....thinking about sexy voice man.   ::MonkeyTongue::
  I like sexy voice man.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 09:33:50 AM
Hi Monks!  I love JP....and I love how he says Mr. Bi-ez ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 06, 2010, 09:34:20 AM
Yeehaw, he is bringing up the money that has been used . Motion Denied! I love me some Judge Perry!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 09:34:45 AM
Throwing Insanity Plea or ..........Her's Crazy out the Window ........

::MonkeyGavel::

Go Judge Belvin !!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on May 06, 2010, 09:34:49 AM
Judge P. is bringing up the $270,000.  And the compensation Baez received.  Oh, yes, Busted!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:34:52 AM
His Honor is just wonderful!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 09:35:12 AM
WOOHOO he is questioning the money........yeehaw!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 09:36:21 AM
What is Judge Perry's address? I want  to send him my heart!! I love this guy!   ::MonkeyAngel::

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image154.png)

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 09:36:25 AM
$163k left after Lyon expenses and Bobo's fee  from the $270 defense says KC had which went to pay for experts , travel etv.  Judge P wants to know breakdown of money.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: joesamas mama on May 06, 2010, 09:37:22 AM
I love Judge Perry, more than I loved Sheriff Beary. Judge Perry is just kicking Baez in the azz.  ::MonkeyGavel::  ::MonkeyGavel::


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Post by: BooMonkey on May 06, 2010, 09:37:53 AM
What is Judge Perry's address? I want  to send him my heart!! I love this guy!   ::MonkeyAngel::

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image154.png)

 ::MonkeyGavel::

Love it Brandi!! Bend over Baez, you're about to get spanked!   ::MonkeyDevil::


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Post by: Nut44x4 on May 06, 2010, 09:38:49 AM
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:tQO4gZxaTUzdlM:http://www.benjudy.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/application_denied.jpg)


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 09:39:15 AM
Judge P. is bringing up the $270,000.  And the compensation Baez received.  Oh, yes, Busted!


Why,yes he is.  ::MonkeyBike::


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Post by: darla on May 06, 2010, 09:40:34 AM
Baiz.....he looks like he is about to cry lol. Judge Perry was ready for Bozo this morning!


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Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 09:41:13 AM
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:tQO4gZxaTUzdlM:http://www.benjudy.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/application_denied.jpg)

     (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/monkeysmileavatar.gif)


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 09:41:41 AM
Thanks for the updates, two new computers and I can't get either one to work for the hearing  ::MonkeyEek::


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Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 09:42:26 AM
Perry sure is schooling Baez!

I love this man!


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 09:43:00 AM
Thanks for the updates, two new computers and I can't get either one to work for the hearing  ::MonkeyEek::

go to myfoxorlando


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Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 09:44:04 AM
Thanks for the updates, two new computers and I can't get either one to work for the hearing  ::MonkeyEek::

go to myfoxorlando

yes, I am watching here as well: http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live


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Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:44:24 AM
Love the JAC hottie!


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Post by: monkalicious on May 06, 2010, 09:44:50 AM
Baez is working the in camera angle.  Judge P. is having none of it.  He's so reasonable, "let's start with the public witnesses first, THEN we'll talk about the in camera witnesses."
By the way, Henry Lee was already in Orlando to review the evidence, and left.  What the heck was he doing then, and why is Baez only now using him?  Oh, I forgot, Judge P. is in the house! 
JAC lawyer is fighting against Out of State expert, Dr. Henry Lee.  Go, JAC!


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 09:45:21 AM
Bozo looks a little Veclempt ...... Poor Bozo. He was warned, Be Prepared


I bet Linda Drane Burdick is clicking her heels under the desk ....... :smt044


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Post by: Cappuccino on May 06, 2010, 09:45:53 AM
OK monkeys Im heading out to Jersey in 10-15 minutes but I just logged on to get a quick preview... ::MonkeyGavel::   so far its going as my gut told me!   Im hearing now JAC objecting to out of state - I cant believe this team is stupid enough to still want to use Dr. Henry Lee as tainted as he is!!

Have fun watching Justice for Caylee prevail!


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Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:46:00 AM
 ::MonkeyHaHa::     Baez can't bring "anyone up to speed" ....


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Post by: joesamas mama on May 06, 2010, 09:47:31 AM
Love the JAC hottie!
Gonna have to fight you for him Ono  ::MonkeyHaHa::


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Post by: monkalicious on May 06, 2010, 09:47:38 AM
OK monkeys Im heading out to Jersey in 10-15 minutes but I just logged on to get a quick preview... ::MonkeyGavel::   so far its going as my gut told me!   Im hearing now JAC objecting to out of state - I cant believe this team is stupid enough to still want to use Dr. Henry Lee as tainted as he is!!

Have fun watching Justice for Caylee prevail!
Have a safe trip, Capp.  Congratulations on your daughter's graduation!


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Post by: Cappuccino on May 06, 2010, 09:47:42 AM
Im gonna stretch to say those 17 hairs were NOT there until Dr. Henry Lee got there (provided by the Anthonys).   I will bet on it.    I hope the prosecution can prove it


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Post by: Cappuccino on May 06, 2010, 09:48:13 AM
OK monkeys Im heading out to Jersey in 10-15 minutes but I just logged on to get a quick preview... ::MonkeyGavel::   so far its going as my gut told me!   Im hearing now JAC objecting to out of state - I cant believe this team is stupid enough to still want to use Dr. Henry Lee as tainted as he is!!

Have fun watching Justice for Caylee prevail!
Have a safe trip, Capp.  Congratulations on your daughter's graduation!

Tks sweetie!   Monkey huggs everyone!


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Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:48:15 AM
LOL---Dr. Lee must be ready for trial.


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Post by: monkalicious on May 06, 2010, 09:49:06 AM
Love the JAC hottie!
Gonna have to fight you for him Ono  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Can't we figure out a schedule?  I'm flexible!
 ::MonkeyJnBox::


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Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:49:07 AM
Love the JAC hottie!
Gonna have to fight you for him Ono  ::MonkeyHaHa::

LOL---if you must.   


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 09:49:57 AM
I recall way back I looked up Dr. Lee and his work. He not only teaches courses - he speaks publicly ...IIR he charges 10k for each time he speaks ........ I will have to look up to confirm.

I don't think Dr. Lee is hurting.


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Post by: Magic Eyes on May 06, 2010, 09:50:21 AM
Good morning monkeys,

Up at 6am, Oregon time.  I love this new judge, I finally feel Caylee is getting the respect she deserves.

No blanket seal, the blanket that held her precious body in that swamp all those months was at the hand of her mother.  She didn't stop with a blanket, she bagged and threw her out like the trash found on Suburban.  They can't hide their attempts in defending her, they can defend her just fine with everything out in the open, just as the Florida Sunshine Laws intended. 

Too bad she left a stinking car, too bad she never reported Caylee missing, too bad she invented a *nanny*.  Too bad, her family has helped her every step of the way in covering up the murder of Caylee.  Too bad, so sad, NOT.  The only too bad is that Caylee was murdered by her mother.   Casey made this mess and she deserves no blankets of comfort and help now.

I am so relieved this courtroom is now giving Caylee the respect she deserves.  Justice for Caylee.

Hugs, Magic Eyes  :smt060



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Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 09:50:55 AM
Judge Perry seems 100 times more prepared for this hearing than Baez.



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Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 06, 2010, 09:51:10 AM
I CANNOT BELIEVE anyone still wants to use Dr. Lee after his Phil Spector Trial debacle!  IMO that man's credibility is completely shot!  But hey ... that's just me ... not Bozo apparently! 


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Post by: monkalicious on May 06, 2010, 09:51:41 AM
Aww, Judge P. granted Bozo's request to keep Dr. Lee. 
Oh, and Bozo had to be reminded to bring up Jeanene Barrett, the mitigation specialist and the other expert witness.  Nice, Baez, you are so prepared!


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Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:52:01 AM
Im gonna stretch to say those 17 hairs were NOT there until Dr. Henry Lee got there (provided by the Anthonys).   I will bet on it.    I hope the prosecution can prove it

Oh brother... mitigation lady must be writing a book too.


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Post by: joesamas mama on May 06, 2010, 09:52:04 AM
OK monkeys Im heading out to Jersey in 10-15 minutes but I just logged on to get a quick preview... ::MonkeyGavel::   so far its going as my gut told me!   Im hearing now JAC objecting to out of state - I cant believe this team is stupid enough to still want to use Dr. Henry Lee as tainted as he is!!

Have fun watching Justice for Caylee prevail!
Have a safe trip, Capp.  Congratulations on your daughter's graduation!

Tks sweetie!   Monkey huggs everyone!
Congrats from JSM as well. Safe trip wishes.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 09:52:31 AM
sunny and brandi you are life savors am watching now  ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:52:38 AM
Im gonna stretch to say those 17 hairs were NOT there until Dr. Henry Lee got there (provided by the Anthonys).   I will bet on it.    I hope the prosecution can prove it

ditto..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 09:52:51 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image156.png)


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 09:53:24 AM
OK monkeys Im heading out to Jersey in 10-15 minutes but I just logged on to get a quick preview... ::MonkeyGavel::   so far its going as my gut told me!   Im hearing now JAC objecting to out of state - I cant believe this team is stupid enough to still want to use Dr. Henry Lee as tainted as he is!!

Have fun watching Justice for Caylee prevail!
Have a safe trip, Capp.  Congratulations on your daughter's graduation!

Tks sweetie!   Monkey huggs everyone!

 ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on May 06, 2010, 09:53:35 AM
I CANNOT BELIEVE anyone still wants to use Dr. Lee after his Phil Spector Trial debacle!  IMO that man's credibility is completely shot!  But hey ... that's just me ... not Bozo apparently! 
I concur, this goes to Bozo's judgement.  Faulty, as usual!


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Post by: akmom on May 06, 2010, 09:53:59 AM
I recall way back I looked up Dr. Lee and his work. He not only teaches courses - he speaks publicly ...IIR he charges 10k for each time he speaks ........ I will have to look up to confirm.

I don't think Dr. Lee is hurting.


Of no real importance, but I passed up a forensic/crime course for my home schooled high school son because it was based on a book written by the famous(infamous) Dr Lee.  Morning monks, have a busy day and didn't think I would make it here this morning.


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 09:56:01 AM
sunny and brandi you are life savors am watching now  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 09:56:55 AM
Barrett has traveled 2 times a Month to Orlando since ???? How and Why would that be??
Casey has family members outside of Fort Anthony ??
Not heard of teleconference - or Fed Ex ??  She is not documented in the visitors log at the Jail is she ??

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/12/casey-anthony-jail-visits-with-baez-show-big-decline/comment-page-6/

snipped: from 2009
Visits preparing for Death Penalty Phase of a Trial

The day after  Casey’s last court appearance on December 11th,  Andrea Lyons and Jeanene Barrett paid a visit to Casey.  Jeanene Barret is a Mitigation Specialist who works with Andrea.  “”A mitigation specialist assembles the pieces of a client’s life, whether they’re birth records, grade school report cards, Boy Scout memorabilia or prison disciplinary records. A competent mitigation specialist also knows how to talk with a client and their family, sometimes about subjects such as child abuse and drug abuse.”" source      They must  provide a compelling narrative about a client’s life for an attorney to argue before a jury to get life vs. the death penalty.  Jeanene Barrett has visited with Casey a total of 11 times starting in June of 2009.


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Post by: monkalicious on May 06, 2010, 09:56:55 AM
What's up with Jeanene Barrett's relationship with the A's?  "They opened up to her," revealing personal family stuff?  Are they willing victims, lying down proudly so the bus can run over them?  As my husband would say, "dumber than a bag of hair".


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Post by: monkalicious on May 06, 2010, 09:57:49 AM
I recall way back I looked up Dr. Lee and his work. He not only teaches courses - he speaks publicly ...IIR he charges 10k for each time he speaks ........ I will have to look up to confirm.

I don't think Dr. Lee is hurting.


Of no real importance, but I passed up a forensic/crime course for my home schooled high school son because it was based on a book written by the famous(infamous) Dr Lee.  Morning monks, have a busy day and didn't think I would make it here this morning.
Hey, AKmom!


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Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:59:05 AM
This is crazy ... mitigation lady wants to interview everyone.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 09:59:19 AM
What's up with Jeanene Barrett's relationship with the A's?  "They opened up to her," revealing personal family stuff?  Are they willing victims, lying down proudly so the bus can run over them?  As my husband would say, "dumber than a bag of hair".
I have no doubt the Anthonys would take the blame for Caylee's death.


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Post by: monkalicious on May 06, 2010, 09:59:54 AM
Barrett has traveled 2 times a Month to Orlando since ???? How and Why would that be??
Casey has family members outside of Fort Anthony ??
Not heard of teleconference - or Fed Ex ??  She is not documented in the visitors log at the Jail is she ??

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/12/casey-anthony-jail-visits-with-baez-show-big-decline/comment-page-6/

snipped: from 2009
Visits preparing for Death Penalty Phase of a Trial

The day after  Casey’s last court appearance on December 11th,  Andrea Lyons and Jeanene Barrett paid a visit to Casey.  Jeanene Barret is a Mitigation Specialist who works with Andrea.  “”A mitigation specialist assembles the pieces of a client’s life, whether they’re birth records, grade school report cards, Boy Scout memorabilia or prison disciplinary records. A competent mitigation specialist also knows how to talk with a client and their family, sometimes about subjects such as child abuse and drug abuse.”" source      They must  provide a compelling narrative about a client’s life for an attorney to argue before a jury to get life vs. the death penalty.  Jeanene Barrett has visited with Casey a total of 11 times starting in June of 2009.
I think she is listed on the visitor's log.  Casey's family is from Niles, Ohio, near Youngstown, and I believe that there is still family there.  Doesn't Shirley Plesea email a sister up there?


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Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 10:00:09 AM
What's up with Jeanene Barrett's relationship with the A's?  "They opened up to her," revealing personal family stuff?  Are they willing victims, lying down proudly so the bus can run over them?  As my husband would say, "dumber than a bag of hair".

This is so rediculous.   


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Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 10:00:31 AM
Wow, the minute Mason approached the bench, the woman got up and took his seat. And Casey began writing to her.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image158-1.png)



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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 10:00:37 AM
Now they are showing traffic  ::MonkeyEek::


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 10:00:53 AM
I recall way back I looked up Dr. Lee and his work. He not only teaches courses - he speaks publicly ...IIR he charges 10k for each time he speaks ........ I will have to look up to confirm.

I don't think Dr. Lee is hurting.


Of no real importance, but I passed up a forensic/crime course for my home schooled high school son because it was based on a book written by the famous(infamous) Dr Lee.  Morning monks, have a busy day and didn't think I would make it here this morning.
Hey, AKmom!
Monka I wanted to add to that - I am sure Mr. Lee has documented his time/accounting for this case. My brain is running too fast. No disrespect to Dr Lee. Congratulations on your efforts. :)


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Post by: akmom on May 06, 2010, 10:01:47 AM
I recall way back I looked up Dr. Lee and his work. He not only teaches courses - he speaks publicly ...IIR he charges 10k for each time he speaks ........ I will have to look up to confirm.

I don't think Dr. Lee is hurting.


Of no real importance, but I passed up a forensic/crime course for my home schooled high school son because it was based on a book written by the famous(infamous) Dr Lee.  Morning monks, have a busy day and didn't think I would make it here this morning.
Hey, AKmom!

Hi ya!
 Funny thing, I kinda schooled the vendor selling the course about my opinion of Dr Lee after I took a good look at his book.  Told her there was no way I would buy a book by that dirty, no good, etc.....hehe ::MonkeyDevil::


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 10:02:27 AM
what did kc write that was so frigging funny...............I'd love to smack that smile right off her face...........the little puff sleeves on the new blouse isn't making her look angelic or INNOCENT


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Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 06, 2010, 10:02:52 AM
Now they are showing traffic  ::MonkeyEek::

Yeah - what's up with that!  Waa Waa!

Anyone else think that that female attorney wrote back to Casey "QUIT GIGGLING THIS ISN'T THE PLACE OR TIME!" ?


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 10:03:36 AM
Now they are showing traffic  ::MonkeyEek::

I know what gives.....does anyone have a picture of the courtroom??


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Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 10:03:45 AM
Love when Judge P told Bobo "No one is irreplaceable".   ::MonkeyGavel:: 


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Post by: akmom on May 06, 2010, 10:03:52 AM
Wow, the minute Mason approached the bench, the woman got up and took his seat. And Casey began writing to her.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image158-1.png)



Casey writing  her notes:  And, mommy is going under the bus, and daddy is going under the bus....


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Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 10:04:15 AM
Dr. Lee lost all my respect after watching his performance in the North Carolina Peterson trial.  And I use the word "performance" literally.


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 10:05:17 AM
I love how they make Casey look like Little Orphan Annie ..with her Hair and Clothes. She looks like she is 12.
Can they tell when the camera is on them ? Is there another screen that they can see when they are "on" camera. Always seems like she knows when she is being Zoomed in on.

----

BAHYICE   ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 10:05:27 AM
Now they are showing traffic  ::MonkeyEek::

I know what gives.....does anyone have a picture of the courtroom??

No, and I can't get the other sites to work for me, I give up  ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 06, 2010, 10:06:42 AM
I'm watching on In Session (old court tv) if anyone has that.


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 10:07:41 AM
Now they are showing traffic  ::MonkeyEek::

I know what gives.....does anyone have a picture of the courtroom??

No, and I can't get the other sites to work for me, I give up  ::MonkeyNoNo::

FOX is the only one that works for me too....IT"S BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 10:07:46 AM
It's back on


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 10:08:11 AM
Now they are showing traffic  ::MonkeyEek::

I know what gives.....does anyone have a picture of the courtroom??


I switched to http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-casey-anthony-hearing-video,0,3860178.htmlstory and http://www.wftv.com/video/23472159/index.html


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Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 10:08:40 AM
Love the "fine-toothed combs" !!!!!!!  Yea, Judge Perry!


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Post by: monkalicious on May 06, 2010, 10:10:43 AM
Love the "fine-toothed combs" !!!!!!!  Yea, Judge Perry!
Ditto!  He's thorough, down to the compact car and hotel accomodations. 


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Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 10:11:01 AM
Baez doesn't know the meaning of "frugal" .... lol


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Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 10:12:50 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image163.png)


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Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 10:15:26 AM
Baez is determined to bleed everyone dry.


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 10:17:01 AM
Baez is such an Oaf!

Watch Cheney in the back he is doing his own Eye Rolling and playing with his chin ..


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 10:17:03 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23465765/detail.html
Judge Denies Anthony Records Request
Casey Anthony Charged With Murder In Death Of Daughter

POSTED: Wednesday, May 5, 2010
UPDATED: 9:52 am EDT May 6, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A judge has denied a request from Casey Anthony's attorney to seal all records related to the public funding of her defense.
Orange County Circuit Judge Belvin Perry, who was recently appointed to the case, said during a hearing on Thursday that Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, failed to prove that releasing the information would jeopardize Anthony's right to a fair trial.

Baez had argued that making the records public could reveal strategy and the type of expert witnesses the defense is hiring.

Anthony has been declared indigent, allowing public money to pay for expert witnesses and other costs but not attorney fees.

An attorney for The Orlando Sentinel told a judge that the request is too broad.

Anthony, 24, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee Anthony.

Caylee was 2 years old when she was reported missing in July 2008. Her remains were found in a wooded area near the Anthony family home in December 2008.

At a hearing last week, Perry said that the May 9, 2011, scheduled start date for Anthony's murder trial will likely remain.

Perry also discussed a possible change of venue.

The state said it will not oppose most of the defense motion for a change of venue, but that only means a jury would be chosen in another Florida city. The jurors would then be brought back to Orange County for the trial, which attorneys predicted could take up to nine weeks.

Although a ruling has not been made on the change of venue, Perry indicated that if it happens,the jury would likely be sequestered in a hotel room.

"It's no secret that this case has received widespread publicity," Perry said. "The only way ... to make sure that they are not infected or polluted during this proceeding is to sequester them."

Perry took over Anthony's murder case after Orange County Circuit Judge Stan Strickland recused himself. Strickland's move followed a defense motion asking that Strickland be disqualified over a friendship with a blogger.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 10:18:38 AM
http://www.weartv.com/template/inews_wire/wires.regional.fl/30dd6324-www.weartv.com.shtml
 Judge denies seal request from Casey Anthony
May 06, 2010 09:40 EDT

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) -- A judge has denied a request from Casey Anthony's attorney to seal all records related to the public funding of her defense.

Circuit Judge Belvin Perry said during a hearing Thursday that Anthony's attorney failed to prove that releasing the information would jeopardize her right to a fair trial. He had argued that making the records public could reveal strategy and the type of expert witnesses the defense is hiring.

Anthony has been declared indigent, allowing public money to pay for expert witnesses and other costs but not attorney fees.

An attorney for The Orlando Sentinel told a judge that the request is too broad.

Anthony is accused of murdering her 2-year-old-daughter Caylee in 2008. She has pleaded not guilty.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 10:19:48 AM
Baez is determined to bleed everyone dry.

Exactly.


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Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 06, 2010, 10:20:55 AM
What's Baez been doing for the last year ... ??  ::MonkeyMad::  Sounds like they are really really far behind on investigation and depositions ...


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Post by: Sassycat on May 06, 2010, 10:22:17 AM
I love this judge.    (http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww161/4Siamese/judgesmiley-1.gif)

Bozo is an idiot.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 10:22:38 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image166.png)

I was wrong, that is not Cindy next to Conway.

I have not seen George or Cindy today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 10:23:21 AM
Is Cindy and George not there?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 10:24:14 AM
The Anthonys finally must have gotten a clue.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 06, 2010, 10:24:43 AM
Jose being schooled on the law by the judge ... haven't we been here before?!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 10:24:44 AM
Is Cindy and George not there?  ::MonkeyEek::

I haven't seen them and thought I must be going blind when others were talking about seeing sin-sin........... ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cookie on May 06, 2010, 10:25:11 AM
I love this judge too so far!
are the A holes in court? I am watching it on InSessions and I have not seen their mugs yet.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 10:27:04 AM
Jose being schooled on the law by the judge ... haven't we been here before?!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Every hearing so far, IIRC.

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on May 06, 2010, 10:29:16 AM
Jose being schooled on the law by the judge ... haven't we been here before?!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

And the prosecution had to tell the judge who the duhfense expert witnesses are.    ::MonkeyNoNo::
I wonder what Bozo's IQ is.     ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 10:29:53 AM
What's Baez been doing for the last year ... ??  ::MonkeyMad::  Sounds like they are really really far behind on investigation and depositions ...

N O T H I N G!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 10:30:00 AM
great shot of leg shackles and NEW CLOTHES


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 10:30:25 AM
What's Baez been doing for the last year ... ??  ::MonkeyMad::  Sounds like they are really really far behind on investigation and depositions ...

N O T H I N G!   ::MonkeyHaHa::
Just primping for the cameras.   Recess


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on May 06, 2010, 10:31:17 AM
I love this judge too so far!
are the A holes in court? I am watching it on InSessions and I have not seen their mugs yet.

I'm giggling at the A remark, Cookie.  I haven't seen them, boy, I'll bet it's hard for Casey to give them the silent treatment, WHEN THEY ARE NOT EVEN THERE! 
 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 10:31:19 AM
Judge P is pointing out to Bobo that his secrets are not so secret and his experts are not so astounding and his strategy is not a bombshell in not so many words.  LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Monkey with Class on May 06, 2010, 10:31:26 AM
I love how they make Casey look like Little Orphan Annie ..with her Hair and Clothes. She looks like she is 12.
Can they tell when the camera is on them ? Is there another screen that they can see when they are "on" camera. Always seems like she knows when she is being Zoomed in on.

----

BAHYICE   ::MonkeyCool::


Most court rooms are switching to digital cameras to log every minute and several angles.   I can not see the feed from work.  But where I live there is a monitor on the desk which has 4-5 different views on a screen.   I do not know if the networks use a feed from the court's cameras or if they have their own.   If they use the courts cameras, then she would know when she is being zoomed in. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 06, 2010, 10:31:35 AM
Jose being schooled on the law by the judge ... haven't we been here before?!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Every hearing so far, IIRC.

 ::MonkeyGavel::

At this point it just makes me wonder if someone on the defense team is thinking 'Let's keep Baez here so we can cry inadequate defense if she's found guilty' ... I mean seriously ... if it's obvious to me he's lacking - it has to be glaringly obvious to those legal professionals around him. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 10:32:01 AM
Baez is such an Oaf!

Watch Cheney in the back he is doing his own Eye Rolling and playing with his chin ..

LOL--I saw that too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 10:32:21 AM
great shot of leg shackles and NEW CLOTHES

Did you see Mason's big white bandage near his right eye?

I missed the shot.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on May 06, 2010, 10:33:37 AM
Jose being schooled on the law by the judge ... haven't we been here before?!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

And the prosecution had to tell the judge who the duhfense expert witnesses are.    ::MonkeyNoNo::
I wonder what Bozo's IQ is.     ::MonkeyRoll::
Bozo wouldn't be able to fight his way out of a wet paper bag.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 10:33:46 AM
Jose being schooled on the law by the judge ... haven't we been here before?!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

And the prosecution had to tell the judge who the duhfense expert witnesses are.    ::MonkeyNoNo::
I wonder what Bozo's IQ is.     ::MonkeyRoll::

.06


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 06, 2010, 10:34:28 AM
Anyone else picturing the Judge walking into chambers ... sitting down ... and repeatedly banging his head on his desk ... repeating "why me" "why me" "why me" ...  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 06, 2010, 10:34:40 AM
I had a phone call and missed why they are in recess....can someone update me please?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cookie on May 06, 2010, 10:35:46 AM
caseyho loves the attention...

bozo is an idiot!
maybe George and Cindy are off on another cruise or out looking for other missing children... ::MonkeyHaHa:: their life's work don't cha know!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 10:35:55 AM
His Honor must feel as tho he's herding cats with Baez.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 10:36:26 AM
When Judge Perry brought up the "Capp of out of State Witnesses" and Bobo was speaking ..and Judge Perry asked JAC to step up and offer his submission.

The camera was wide and you could fully see Mason in the back .. when JAC began to speak ..Mason Rolled his Eyes Big time and then took a huge breath and looked to his right * as if he wanted to cough and say BS, then looked back to the Judge. Brandi almost caught it on that screen shot. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 10:37:14 AM
Anyone else picturing the Judge walking into chambers ... sitting down ... and repeatedly banging his head on his desk ... repeating "why me" "why me" "why me" ...  ::MonkeyHaHa::


 ::MonkeyJnBox::    And Judge Strickland is down on his knees giving thanks!  lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 10:37:56 AM
great shot of leg shackles and NEW CLOTHES

Did you see Mason's big white bandage near his right eye?

I missed the shot.
I thought it was part of his Eyebrows ...... ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 10:41:13 AM
great shot of leg shackles and NEW CLOTHES

Did you see Mason's big white bandage near his right eye?

I missed the shot.

no Brandi I missed it.  Wonder what that's about?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 10:41:25 AM
I really am beginning to think that Casey actually feels completely without blemish in this whole sordid affair.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cookie on May 06, 2010, 10:42:21 AM
great shot of leg shackles and NEW CLOTHES

Did you see Mason's big white bandage near his right eye?

I missed the shot.
I thought it was part of his Eyebrows ...... ::MonkeyHaHa::

tee hee!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 10:42:39 AM
Jose being schooled on the law by the judge ... haven't we been here before?!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

And the prosecution had to tell the judge who the duhfense expert witnesses are.    ::MonkeyNoNo::
I wonder what Bozo's IQ is.     ::MonkeyRoll::

.06

 ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 10:42:50 AM
great shot of leg shackles and NEW CLOTHES

Did you see Mason's big white bandage near his right eye?

I missed the shot.

no Brandi I missed it.  Wonder what that's about?


Prolly had a melanoma removed for testing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 10:43:40 AM
I had a phone call and missed why they are in recess....can someone update me please?

potty break


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 10:44:01 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image175.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 10:44:12 AM
I really am beginning to think that Casey actually feels completely without blemish in this whole sordid affair.
I think so too Ono. She no matter what always seems to be " checked out" .. unless the camera is on her. And she is fixing her clothes and hair ......



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cookie on May 06, 2010, 10:44:48 AM
great shot of leg shackles and NEW CLOTHES

Did you see Mason's big white bandage near his right eye?

I missed the shot.

no Brandi I missed it.  Wonder what that's about?


Prolly had a melanoma removed for testing.

testing done by Dr. Henry Lee probably! lol!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 10:44:59 AM
I really am beginning to think that Casey actually feels completely without blemish in this whole sordid affair.

absolutely................ ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 10:45:28 AM
I had a phone call and missed why they are in recess....can someone update me please?

potty break
Wonder why you and my computer only works on My Fox Orlando? I'm so mixed up by that, my old computer didn't have that issue. Sounds like we are back on.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 10:45:39 AM
If she's convicted, their defense is that she was pushed to it, imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 10:45:46 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image175.png)

WOOHOO....you got it! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on May 06, 2010, 10:46:30 AM
Hey, someone on WS just brought up the fact that Henry Lee said on Nancy Grace that he was working pro bono.


GRACE: Back to Dr. Henry Lee, who, as you all know, is a famed forensic scientist on the Anthony defense team. Dr. Lee, I`ve just got to ask you, you know, tot mom Casey Anthony was siphoning gasoline from her family`s car to fill up her own tank. How the heck are you getting paid? I`m sure you`re costing a pretty penny. Dr. Lee does not come cheap.

LEE: No, we did not get any pay for that and for -- I`ll say, you know, this country, as you know, everybody entitled a defense. And many forensic experts, we do pro bono cases and that`s our obligation to our profession. As an expert, we look at evidence, doesn`t matter inculpatory, exculpatory, we report (ph) as it is. I don`t think should be labeled as a defense expert going to just for defense. Many time, found more evidence, inculpatory evidence, than the police found. There -- you know, case history, case example, many time we`re allowed to work on the case together. Many of my cases, I let the defense expert observe. It`s nothing wrong.

GRACE: Dr. Lee, are you telling me that you are working on the case pro bono, for free?

LEE: Yes.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../15/ng.01.html

So explain to me why he needs to be paid?  Isn't that a lie to the judge?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 06, 2010, 10:46:49 AM
Thank you Dianne... How dare the drs. office interrupt me when i am watching a court hearing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 10:46:52 AM
Nebraska !!!!!!!!! LOLOLOL...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 10:51:49 AM
Thank you Dianne... How dare the drs. office interrupt me when i am watching a court hearing.
Hope you are doing good  ::MonkeyAngel::  Yes they just took a break because the hearing was long, and people needed a break and stretch.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 06, 2010, 10:53:34 AM
You know ... no matter how long it's been ... If I'd had nothing to do with my daughter's murder ... I'd still be crying any time they brought up "her remains" "cremated" etc ...  Casey just sits there like she's watching a tv show.  She is so sick and twisted!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on May 06, 2010, 10:53:48 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image175.png)

WOOHOO....you got it! 
She's doin' the Orange County Shuffle!  Hey, try to tap dance out this one, Casey!
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on May 06, 2010, 10:55:46 AM
Oh, for sweet pete's sake, Baez just said the botanist couldn't examine the crime scene because they were denied access.  Come on, get a new song already!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 10:55:50 AM
Thank you Dianne... How dare the drs. office interrupt me when i am watching a court hearing.

If hubby makes one more pass through the den,I am gonna throw  my cup at him.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 10:56:17 AM
You know ... no matter how long it's been ... If I'd had nothing to do with my daughter's murder ... I'd still be crying any time they brought up "her remains" "cremated" etc ...  Casey just sits there like she's watching a tv show.  She is so sick and twisted!

When Judge Perry said this is a murder case in the first degree, for which the state is asking the death penalty ... Casey sat there stoically, although I did see her clench her jaws. I missed that shot too.

She only cares about herself.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on May 06, 2010, 10:57:19 AM
Just one expert, Jose! Too bad, so sad...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 06, 2010, 10:59:44 AM
Thanks Mary, I am good right now, just trying to get Surgery scheduled.

Oh dear Lord Bozo is getting on my last nerve.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 11:00:01 AM
I think it is huge that George and Cindy aren't there today, something is going on, wish we knew  ::MonkeyEek::  There must be some experts in Florida that the defense could of used  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 11:00:21 AM
sheesh .. they could not find a competent digital forensics expert in the state of Florida?!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 11:00:41 AM
Thanks Mary, I am good right now, just trying to get Surgery scheduled.

Oh dear Lord Bozo is getting on my last nerve.


::MonkeyAngel:: He is enough to make one start drinking early in the morning  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 06, 2010, 11:00:53 AM
Hey, someone on WS just brought up the fact that Henry Lee said on Nancy Grace that he was working pro bono.


GRACE: Back to Dr. Henry Lee, who, as you all know, is a famed forensic scientist on the Anthony defense team. Dr. Lee, I`ve just got to ask you, you know, tot mom Casey Anthony was siphoning gasoline from her family`s car to fill up her own tank. How the heck are you getting paid? I`m sure you`re costing a pretty penny. Dr. Lee does not come cheap.

LEE: No, we did not get any pay for that and for -- I`ll say, you know, this country, as you know, everybody entitled a defense. And many forensic experts, we do pro bono cases and that`s our obligation to our profession. As an expert, we look at evidence, doesn`t matter inculpatory, exculpatory, we report (ph) as it is. I don`t think should be labeled as a defense expert going to just for defense. Many time, found more evidence, inculpatory evidence, than the police found. There -- you know, case history, case example, many time we`re allowed to work on the case together. Many of my cases, I let the defense expert observe. It`s nothing wrong.

GRACE: Dr. Lee, are you telling me that you are working on the case pro bono, for free?

LEE: Yes.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../15/ng.01.html

So explain to me why he needs to be paid?  Isn't that a lie to the judge?

WOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO..........someone get this to da Judge!!  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 11:01:31 AM
The out of state expert gave them a rate they could not refuse?   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 06, 2010, 11:01:52 AM
I think it is huge that George and Cindy aren't there today, something is going on, wish we knew  ::MonkeyEek::  There must be some experts in Florida that the defense could of used  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I missed the beginning.  Did we get to see Casey walk in ... and did she look around for the parentals and/or act surprised that they were no shows?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 11:02:10 AM
Possibly ...since Bobo did not know how to find any of these experts - all  of these "Out of State" ppl were brought in or referred by Linda Kenney ...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 11:02:23 AM
sheesh .. they could not find a competent digital forensics expert in the state of Florida?!


This is nonsense, I'm sure there are plenty of experts in Florida  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 11:03:10 AM
I think it is huge that George and Cindy aren't there today, something is going on, wish we knew  ::MonkeyEek::  There must be some experts in Florida that the defense could of used  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I missed the beginning.  Did we get to see Casey walk in ... and did she look around for the parentals and/or act surprised that they were no shows?
I didn't, but I couldn't get the videos to work.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 11:03:45 AM
Possibly ...since Bobo did not know how to find any of these experts - all  of these "Out of State" ppl were brought in or referred by Linda Kenney ...


I agree, she knows a lot of people, between her and her husband.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 11:04:59 AM
The out of state expert gave them a rate they could not refuse?   ::MonkeyEek::
I wonder about this because doesn't Bobo want the photo's etc thrown ..out. That the photo's are " prejudice".  I wonder who this Expert is and who's their Pal ?? who's their Buddy on the defense team. Is this someone's college friend or coworker ..some thing along that line.





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 11:05:27 AM
 ::MonkeyHaHa::   Baez is sooooooooooooooooooooooooo full of poop.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 11:06:53 AM
The out of state expert gave them a rate they could not refuse?   ::MonkeyEek::
I wonder about this because doesn't Bobo want the photo's etc thrown ..out. That the photo's are " prejudice".  I wonder who this Expert is and who's their Pal ?? who's their Buddy on the defense team. Is this someone's college friend or coworker ..some thing along that line.




Lot of people going to write books and become famous off this case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 11:07:07 AM
::MonkeyHaHa::   Baez is sooooooooooooooooooooooooo full of poop.

His droning on and on is putting me to sleep.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 11:07:48 AM
Poor Bobo brought up the word Skype and now looks like he is going to pass out when Judge P said he could have Skype available in the court rather than travel to testify.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 11:08:09 AM
Hey, someone on WS just brought up the fact that Henry Lee said on Nancy Grace that he was working pro bono.


GRACE: Back to Dr. Henry Lee, who, as you all know, is a famed forensic scientist on the Anthony defense team. Dr. Lee, I`ve just got to ask you, you know, tot mom Casey Anthony was siphoning gasoline from her family`s car to fill up her own tank. How the heck are you getting paid? I`m sure you`re costing a pretty penny. Dr. Lee does not come cheap.

LEE: No, we did not get any pay for that and for -- I`ll say, you know, this country, as you know, everybody entitled a defense. And many forensic experts, we do pro bono cases and that`s our obligation to our profession. As an expert, we look at evidence, doesn`t matter inculpatory, exculpatory, we report (ph) as it is. I don`t think should be labeled as a defense expert going to just for defense. Many time, found more evidence, inculpatory evidence, than the police found. There -- you know, case history, case example, many time we`re allowed to work on the case together. Many of my cases, I let the defense expert observe. It`s nothing wrong.

GRACE: Dr. Lee, are you telling me that you are working on the case pro bono, for free?

LEE: Yes.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../15/ng.01.html

So explain to me why he needs to be paid?  Isn't that a lie to the judge?

WOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO..........someone get this to da Judge!!  ::MonkeyGavel::


Yes, he needs to know this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 06, 2010, 11:08:11 AM
Ok I'm starting to get the picture.  Bozo had to go all over the US to find "experts" who didn't think his client was GUILTY!  All the experts in Florida said "I'LL PASS" ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 11:10:09 AM
Ok I'm starting to get the picture.  Bozo had to go all over the US to find "experts" who didn't think his client was GUILTY!  All the experts in Florida said "I'LL PASS" ...
Yes, and they are connected to Linda and Michael Baden. They know a lot of experts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 11:10:09 AM
His Honor's patience is being tried to the 'nth degree.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 11:10:27 AM
The out of state expert gave them a rate they could not refuse?   ::MonkeyEek::
I wonder about this because doesn't Bobo want the photo's etc thrown ..out. That the photo's are " prejudice".  I wonder who this Expert is and who's their Pal ?? who's their Buddy on the defense team. Is this someone's college friend or coworker ..some thing along that line.





Since the two of the named experts are affiliated and work for Lyon's Criminal Case Study group at DePaul  I am leaning toward any of these no named expert to also be connect to Lyon and DePaul. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: cookie on May 06, 2010, 11:11:20 AM
Hey, someone on WS just brought up the fact that Henry Lee said on Nancy Grace that he was working pro bono.


GRACE: Back to Dr. Henry Lee, who, as you all know, is a famed forensic scientist on the Anthony defense team. Dr. Lee, I`ve just got to ask you, you know, tot mom Casey Anthony was siphoning gasoline from her family`s car to fill up her own tank. How the heck are you getting paid? I`m sure you`re costing a pretty penny. Dr. Lee does not come cheap.

LEE: No, we did not get any pay for that and for -- I`ll say, you know, this country, as you know, everybody entitled a defense. And many forensic experts, we do pro bono cases and that`s our obligation to our profession. As an expert, we look at evidence, doesn`t matter inculpatory, exculpatory, we report (ph) as it is. I don`t think should be labeled as a defense expert going to just for defense. Many time, found more evidence, inculpatory evidence, than the police found. There -- you know, case history, case example, many time we`re allowed to work on the case together. Many of my cases, I let the defense expert observe. It`s nothing wrong.

GRACE: Dr. Lee, are you telling me that you are working on the case pro bono, for free?

LEE: Yes.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../15/ng.01.html

So explain to me why he needs to be paid?  Isn't that a lie to the judge?

WOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO..........someone get this to da Judge!!  ::MonkeyGavel::

can someone get the fax number and get this to the judge?? this is huge..also, Cheney had said that Dr. Lee has worked for a crate of oranges before...surely they have oranges in Florida??? ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 11:11:21 AM
Ok I'm starting to get the picture.  Bozo had to go all over the US to find "experts" who didn't think his client was GUILTY!  All the experts in Florida said "I'LL PASS" ...
Yes, and they are connected to Linda and Michael Baden. They know a lot of experts.

Yes--they saw the "gravy train" quickly.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 11:11:47 AM
An expert in Belgium  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 11:12:18 AM
Ok I'm starting to get the picture.  Bozo had to go all over the US to find "experts" who didn't think his client was GUILTY!  All the experts in Florida said "I'LL PASS" ...
Yes, and they are connected to Linda and Michael Baden. They know a lot of experts.

Yes--they saw the "gravy train" quickly.
And they both jump on as quickly as possible.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 11:12:49 AM
Bobo et al have sure put together a gaggle of prime rib experts on a bologna budget. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 11:13:46 AM
Poor Bobo brought up the word Skype and now looks like he is going to pass out when Judge P said he could have Skype available in the court rather than travel to testify.
It is def a way to save a ton of money ... Skype.  Its secure and live.

Judge Perry appears "exhausted & short of temperament"  by the redundancy of Bobo's circle talking of experts. 




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 11:14:15 AM
Bobo et al have sure put together a gaggle of prime rib experts on a bologna budget. 
::MonkeyTongue:: Lot of people looking for a name over a murdered child.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 11:15:49 AM
The Jar looks like he is already compiling the objection to these restrictions and being told only one expert.  I can see Constitutional objects killing a few more forrests in a few days. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 11:17:26 AM
Taphonomy[note 1] is the study of decaying organisms over time and how they become fossilized (if they do). The term taphonomy, (from the Greek taphos - τάφος meaning burial, and nomos - νόμος meaning law), was introduced to paleontology in 1940 by Russian scientist, Ivan Efremov, to describe the study of the transition of remains, parts, or products of organisms, from the biosphere, to the lithosphere, i.e. the creation of fossil assemblages.[1][2]

more....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taphonomy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 11:17:40 AM
Bobo et al have sure put together a gaggle of prime rib experts on a bologna budget. 
::MonkeyTongue:: Lot of people looking for a name over a murdered child.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Bobo is obviously " Saying to the Court" their main Defense is that someone else placed Caylee or moved Caylee after Slore was locked up. Sounds like it to me. That is what they are going to run with at Trial.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 11:18:06 AM
Too funny.    lol  ... Is that what Baez really means????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 11:18:11 AM
Taphonomy[note 1] is the study of decaying organisms over time and how they become fossilized (if they do). The term taphonomy, (from the Greek taphos - τάφος meaning burial, and nomos - νόμος meaning law), was introduced to paleontology in 1940 by Russian scientist, Ivan Efremov, to describe the study of the transition of remains, parts, or products of organisms, from the biosphere, to the lithosphere, i.e. the creation of fossil assemblages.[1][2]

more....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taphonomy
Thank-you, because I'm lost with this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 11:18:57 AM
Bobo et al have sure put together a gaggle of prime rib experts on a bologna budget. 
::MonkeyTongue:: Lot of people looking for a name over a murdered child.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Bobo is obviously " Saying to the Court" their main Defense is that someone else placed Caylee or moved Caylee after Slore was locked up. Sounds like it to me. That is what they are going to run with at Trial.



Agreed


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 11:19:35 AM
Taphonomy[note 1] is the study of decaying organisms over time and how they become fossilized (if they do). The term taphonomy, (from the Greek taphos - τάφος meaning burial, and nomos - νόμος meaning law), was introduced to paleontology in 1940 by Russian scientist, Ivan Efremov, to describe the study of the transition of remains, parts, or products of organisms, from the biosphere, to the lithosphere, i.e. the creation of fossil assemblages.[1][2]

more....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taphonomy

Thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 11:20:06 AM
Bobo et al have sure put together a gaggle of prime rib experts on a bologna budget. 
::MonkeyTongue:: Lot of people looking for a name over a murdered child.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Bobo is obviously " Saying to the Court" their main Defense is that someone else placed Caylee or moved Caylee after Slore was locked up. Sounds like it to me. That is what they are going to run with at Trial.




Sure looks that way!  You have nanners


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 11:20:39 AM
Cellphone expert...lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 11:21:00 AM
Bobo looks like a total ++++ up there IMO.  Seems his team may be throwing him under the bus. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 11:21:24 AM
Taphonomy[note 1] is the study of decaying organisms over time and how they become fossilized (if they do). The term taphonomy, (from the Greek taphos - τάφος meaning burial, and nomos - νόμος meaning law), was introduced to paleontology in 1940 by Russian scientist, Ivan Efremov, to describe the study of the transition of remains, parts, or products of organisms, from the biosphere, to the lithosphere, i.e. the creation of fossil assemblages.[1][2]

more....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taphonomy
Thanks you!   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 11:21:45 AM
Cellphone expert...lol

Any of my kids would qualify as cell phone experts  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 11:23:38 AM
Cellphone expert...lol

Any of my kids would qualify as cell phone experts  ::MonkeyGavel::
Heck a Monkey could do it... ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 11:23:55 AM
I just bet the judge would love to throw something at Baez's head right about now  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 11:24:21 AM
Cellphone expert...lol

Any of my kids would qualify as cell phone experts  ::MonkeyGavel::
Thank you Nanners - I will read after court :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on May 06, 2010, 11:25:14 AM
Taphonomy[note 1] is the study of decaying organisms over time and how they become fossilized (if they do). The term taphonomy, (from the Greek taphos - τάφος meaning burial, and nomos - νόμος meaning law), was introduced to paleontology in 1940 by Russian scientist, Ivan Efremov, to describe the study of the transition of remains, parts, or products of organisms, from the biosphere, to the lithosphere, i.e. the creation of fossil assemblages.[1][2]

more....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taphonomy
Thank-you, because I'm lost with this.
Thanks,also.  I think everyone is lost with it. Didn't Mr. Ashton liken it to phrenology?  As I recall, phrenology is the study of bumps on the head.  That seems appropriate.
 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 11:26:14 AM
Bobo - we consulted with someone out of state who was willing to do it pro bono
Judge - then why not use that person?
Bobo - because we don;t know if that person is willing to do it.

I think Bobo is speaking in tongues today as he just said that that person was willing to do it for free. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 11:27:07 AM
Bobo wants to buy two cars.  WTH have they been doing for 2 years ? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 11:27:10 AM
Taphonomy[note 1] is the study of decaying organisms over time and how they become fossilized (if they do). The term taphonomy, (from the Greek taphos - τάφος meaning burial, and nomos - νόμος meaning law), was introduced to paleontology in 1940 by Russian scientist, Ivan Efremov, to describe the study of the transition of remains, parts, or products of organisms, from the biosphere, to the lithosphere, i.e. the creation of fossil assemblages.[1][2]

more....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taphonomy
Thank-you, because I'm lost with this.
Thanks,also.  I think everyone is lost with it. Didn't Mr. Ashton liken it to phrenology?  As I recall, phrenology is the study of bumps on the head.  That seems appropriate.
 ::MonkeyDevil::
Fossils, but would Caylee's bones at the point in time of being discovered be fossilized?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 11:28:32 AM
All big trials have jury consultants.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on May 06, 2010, 11:28:35 AM
Baez wants to be able to purchase two, that's right, two Pontiac Sunfires to test.
DENIED, thank you so much, Judge Perrry.
Oh, now Baez is whining.
I can't stand his voice.
 ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 11:29:11 AM
Baez wants to be able to purchase two, that's right, two Pontiac Sunfires to test.
DENIED, thank you so much, Judge Perrry.
Oh, now Baez is whining.
I can't stand his voice.
 ::MonkeyMad::
This is just unbelievable.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 11:29:25 AM
Cellphone expert...lol

Any of my kids would qualify as cell phone experts  ::MonkeyGavel::

LOL!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 11:30:43 AM
Mr. Ashton & Mr. George are Linda's jury consultants!!!     Love it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 06, 2010, 11:31:02 AM
Bobo wants to buy two cars.  WTH have they been doing for 2 years ? 

 ::MonkeySlide::  I keep waiting for the Judge to ask that very question!  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 11:31:15 AM
Bobo wants to buy two cars.  WTH have they been doing for 2 years ? 

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 11:32:07 AM
Mr. Ashton & Mr. George are Linda's jury consultants!!!     Love it.
I love it too, but I'm shocked. No jury consultant at tax payers expense  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 11:32:43 AM
Judge will not entertain jury consultants again  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 11:33:40 AM
Yea!!  No jury consultant & ruled "with prejudice"  !!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 11:33:57 AM
Poor Mason has to pick his own Jury. No Jury expert for them.  Dr Phil can schedule his holiday now   ::MonkeyJnBox::    ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 11:35:16 AM
Poor Mason has to pick his own Jury. No Jury expert for them.  Dr Phil can schedule his holiday now   ::MonkeyJnBox::    ::MonkeyJnBox::

LOL!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 11:35:36 AM
and all this is what BOZO wanted to go over incamera???????????????  Oh how frigging important he thinks he and his murdering client are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 06, 2010, 11:36:13 AM
Baez has to be thinking ...

1.  This whole indigent thing isn't working out so well.
2.  Neither is that whole Judge change.

 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 11:36:32 AM
Baez's canine expert will prolly be another canine.  lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 11:36:40 AM
Now they want a dog expert to show the dogs lied? (Can they just not use Cindy as the dog expert as her nose can tell the difference between decomp and pepperoni WOOF!)  Maybe somewhere on the list they will add a poop expert to test all the commissary excrement to prove KC is not fit for trial.  This is surreal. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 11:37:55 AM
and all this is what BOZO wanted to go over incamera???????????????  Oh how frigging important he thinks he and his murdering client are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why, according to Geraldo, Baez is a " world famous attorney" ... lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 06, 2010, 11:38:25 AM
 ::dogwag::

Don't be dissing dogs Jose!  That will really make me made (and Marley too!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on May 06, 2010, 11:38:28 AM
Now they want a dog expert to show the dogs lied? (Can they just not use Cindy as the dog expert as her nose can tell the difference between decomp and pepperoni WOOF!)  Maybe somewhere on the list they will add a poop expert to test all the commissary excrement to prove KC is not fit for trial.  This is surreal. 

Now that was funny  ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 06, 2010, 11:38:47 AM
I just love this judge. He has Bozo so rattled he doesn't know his behind from his head. ::MonkeyDevil::

Here he goes slamming the state attorneys. Just the fact that CA didn't report Caylee missing for 31 days is enough to hang her butt.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 11:39:46 AM
I told you----his expert is a member of the "dog community"...LOL!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 06, 2010, 11:40:13 AM
OMG Bozo just said his expert was well respected in the dog community. ROFLMAO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 11:40:51 AM
Oh FTLOG he has no idea where his experts are from?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 11:41:03 AM
From Auburn University I bet.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 11:41:47 AM
Tell me Baez isn't really saying what he is saying?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 11:41:52 AM
OMG Bozo just said his expert was well respected in the dog community. ROFLMAO

Dogs sniff each other's butts as a howdie doodie.  Wonder how he became respected?   ::MonkeyJnBox::   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 06, 2010, 11:42:03 AM
Perry is getting tired of Bozo's BS


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 11:42:30 AM
OMG Bozo just said his expert was well respected in the dog community. ROFLMAO

Dogs sniff each other's butts as a howdie doodie.  Wonder how he became respected?   ::MonkeyJnBox::   ::MonkeyJnBox::
I just spit my coffee out  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 11:42:43 AM
Thank you Linda for pointing out that it has been two years so why now?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 11:43:48 AM
Now they want a dog expert to show the dogs lied? (Can they just not use Cindy as the dog expert as her nose can tell the difference between decomp and pepperoni WOOF!)  Maybe somewhere on the list they will add a poop expert to test all the commissary excrement to prove KC is not fit for trial.  This is surreal. 
two seconds Google search Florida Canine Forensics http://www.k9forensicsteam.com

Baez - the K9's in the ANT YARD found Nothing? We all beg to differ
We all know that the Dogs hit on two places .. you can find it on youtube from the media
K9 officers are not Junk Science BOBO !  what a dill weed.

Remember when Cindy said that the smell in the Trunk too - at one time was that Casey would leave urine soaked diapers in the trunk..that while they were shopping Casey ..would change Caylee in the car. Would forget to throw the diapers away and they soiled the trunk liner. That and she said that Caylee would go potty in her little Play house ..that is what the dog's picked up.. Yah right.
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: C i n d y  = F O O L


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 11:44:13 AM
OMG Bozo just said his expert was well respected in the dog community. ROFLMAO

Dogs sniff each other's butts as a howdie doodie.  Wonder how he became respected?   ::MonkeyJnBox::   ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 11:45:04 AM
Goodie ! Public records requests.  This must be all the stuff that was photocopied but never picked up nor paid for. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 11:46:33 AM
I still do not believe he has an expert yet;   The School of Veterinary Medicine at Auburn University, Auburn, Alabama is excellent.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 11:47:12 AM
OMG Bozo just said his expert was well respected in the dog community. ROFLMAO

Dogs sniff each other's butts as a howdie doodie.  Wonder how he became respected?   ::MonkeyJnBox::   ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


LOLOLOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 06, 2010, 11:48:25 AM
If Jose Baez is so Worried about Casey receiving a fair Trial - He should have stepped down a long time ago...  He is her biggest issue as far as receiving " Fair and impartial" every time he appears in Court he knocks everything backwards ..or to a standstill. Or creates total confusion for everyone ......... ::MonkeyNoNo::  what a a@shat

Hear! Hear!  ::MonkeyGavel::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 11:48:36 AM
When JAC said the records have to be specified by motion Bobo was shaking his head in a no no direction.  Seems he does not want to actual go through the correct due diligence as it may create some work, yet they can file all the motions as the students are more than likely doing it. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 06, 2010, 11:49:25 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image151-1.png)

I'm late getting here this morning.

Thanks for the pictures!  And the comments from all!

Look at KC!  Those lips are sure pressed tight together!!   ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 11:50:18 AM
Another request for In Camera.  He feels so special.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 06, 2010, 11:51:09 AM
He's still wanting the tips from the tip hotline?!  Wasn't that thing only open when Caylee was thought to be still alive?  What good could that possibly be to them at this point?  Looks to me like the defense is still grasping at straws to find their defense ???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 06, 2010, 11:51:20 AM
$163k left after Lyon expenses and Bobo's fee  from the $270 defense says KC had which went to pay for experts , travel etv.  Judge P wants to know breakdown of money.

YES!!   ::MonkeyGavel::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 11:51:34 AM
The Jar just said he filed TODAY reconsideration of all prior motions.  So they are opening up everything that JS did not rule in their favour.  This case will never get to trial. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 11:53:41 AM
Is "blow smoke over the papers" a legal term that The Jar just used?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 11:54:40 AM
The Jar just said he filed TODAY reconsideration of all prior motions.  So they are opening up everything that JS did not rule in their favour.  This case will never get to trial. 
Delay, delay, the name of the game.     Somebody needs to tell the person whispering things that we can all hear them  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 11:55:21 AM
Anyone who is listening on FOX....can you hearing whispering?  I can't tell who it is.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 11:55:48 AM
Anyone who is listening on FOX....can you hearing whispering?  I can't tell who it is.....
It is Ashton.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 11:55:52 AM
Why would the Tips from the sheriff's department truly be of importance -
" other than possible sitings of Caylee" which Cindy seemed to be in control of at all times - Running her Mouth to Media -that public was calling her personal cell with sitings. Gag me. 

Since No One but Casey has ever been named from day one " Person of Interest"
The Police/FBI never did a Man Hunt for a suspect that Took Caylee or Harmed Caylee  - before during or after - Caylee being reported missing - when she was missing - or after she was found.

They didn't have to Hunt ZG down. They found her and questioned her and she was omitted.
If anything they only need the 911 calls that Cindy made. Even the Anon tip call she allegedly called into the sheriff's dept to create alibi for Slore.

  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 11:56:14 AM
Poor Mason has to pick his own Jury. No Jury expert for them.  Dr Phil can schedule his holiday now   ::MonkeyJnBox::    ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 11:56:32 AM
The Jar just said he filed TODAY reconsideration of all prior motions.  So they are opening up everything that JS did not rule in their favour.  This case will never get to trial. 

Yep....we were speculating they might do this last week or so....and now they have.......OHMYGAWD!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NCMike on May 06, 2010, 11:57:14 AM
I'm late, did the A's show up this morning?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 11:57:29 AM
Anyone who is listening on FOX....can you hearing whispering?  I can't tell who it is.....
It is Ashton.

thanks... I hope they catch that rather quickly


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 11:57:33 AM
I'm late, did the A's show up this morning?
They are not there  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 06, 2010, 11:57:57 AM
oh Crap just lost video and sound


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 11:59:09 AM
Another request for In Camera.  He feels so special.

special as a boil on your butt ::MonkeyDevil::  not your butt NR...anyone's butt ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on May 06, 2010, 12:00:03 PM
WFTV just switched to Kathi B. getting ready...
::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NCMike on May 06, 2010, 12:00:16 PM
I'm late, did the A's show up this morning?
They are not there  ::MonkeyEek::

That in itself is a little interesting I would think.  They missed an opportunity to see there daughter   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 12:00:44 PM
I'm late, did the A's show up this morning?

hi Mike....nope they are not there as far as I have been able to see


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 12:01:45 PM
I'm late, did the A's show up this morning?
They are not there  ::MonkeyEek::

That in itself is a little interesting I would think.  They missed an opportunity to see there daughter   ::MonkeyCool::
Personally I think that is huge.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 12:01:49 PM
I'm late, did the A's show up this morning?

No.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NCMike on May 06, 2010, 12:02:45 PM
I'm late, did the A's show up this morning?

hi Mike....nope they are not there as far as I have been able to see

Hey Sunny

I knew you'd all be here keeping a watchful eye on things, very much appreciated.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 12:03:14 PM
I want to go back to the courtroom & see what His Honor rules....... 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 12:03:18 PM
I'm late, did the A's show up this morning?
They are not there  ::MonkeyEek::

That in itself is a little interesting I would think.  They missed an opportunity to see there daughter   ::MonkeyCool::

Maybe they  were busy going to the bank to pay their mortgage this morning?   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 06, 2010, 12:03:28 PM
What's up with Jeanene Barrett's relationship with the A's?  "They opened up to her," revealing personal family stuff?  Are they willing victims, lying down proudly so the bus can run over them?  As my husband would say, "dumber than a bag of hair".

Or...dumb as a box of rocks...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 12:03:51 PM
Bob just asked for a hair banding expert in addition to Dr Lee. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 12:04:01 PM
I'm late, did the A's show up this morning?
They are not there  ::MonkeyEek::

That in itself is a little interesting I would think.  They missed an opportunity to see there daughter   ::MonkeyCool::

Maybe they  were busy going to the bank to pay their mortgage this morning?   ::MonkeyJnBox::
Or they crawled back under their rock.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 12:04:39 PM
Kathi has on a beautiful necklace


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NCMike on May 06, 2010, 12:05:06 PM
I'm late, did the A's show up this morning?

hi Mike....nope they are not there as far as I have been able to see

Hey Sunny

I knew you'd all be here keeping a watchful eye on things, very much appreciated.



I don't see Marinade dumba** there either!  Oh well, good to see judge Perry at work, keep up the fight monkeys!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 12:05:24 PM
Judge Perry has to speak to BOZO as if he were a 5 years old..................he is gonna lose his patience someday...............AND I WANT TO SEE IT!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 12:05:25 PM
Love how the Judge just cut off Bobo when he objected to what Mr Ashton said. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 12:06:22 PM
I'm late, did the A's show up this morning?
Nope ... Mike they are probably sitting in their living room Watching this live ..
with the " BIGGEST Wad of GUM " Chewing in History ... I am no expert though ... ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 12:06:58 PM
Bobo just said the Dr Lee is not an expert on hair decomp and the Judge just warned him that it will be served on a silver platter back at him should Dr Lee try to offer his opinion on it during trial. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 12:07:05 PM
Pre-empted by the noon news.   Drats.

Here we go back to the courtroom.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 12:07:52 PM
Bobo just said the Dr Lee is not an expert on hair decomp and the Judge just warned him that it will be served on a silver platter back at him should Dr Lee try to offer his opinion on it during trial. 

Thanks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on May 06, 2010, 12:08:15 PM
I'm late, did the A's show up this morning?
They are not there  ::MonkeyEek::

That in itself is a little interesting I would think.  They missed an opportunity to see there daughter   ::MonkeyCool::

Maybe they  were busy going to the bank to pay their mortgage this morning?   ::MonkeyJnBox::

They found out they couldn't go that long without a piece of gum in their mouths.   They probably don't like the new judge either!     ::MonkeyGavel::    ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 12:08:20 PM
WFTV just switched to Kathi B. getting ready...
::MonkeyJnBox::

I saw that.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 12:08:56 PM
Judge Perry has to speak to BOZO as if he were a 5 years old..................he is gonna lose his patience someday...............AND I WANT TO SEE IT!!

Me too--and it's gonna be a doozy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 12:09:00 PM
Bobo did not get his in camera yet.  Judge asked them to do a side bar with court reporter present. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 12:09:08 PM
That blouse that Casey is wearing was on clearance at Target, and whoever purchased that, it doesn't fit her proper.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on May 06, 2010, 12:11:02 PM
I'm late, did the A's show up this morning?
Nope ... Mike they are probably sitting in their living room Watching this live ..
with the " BIGGEST Wad of GUM " Chewing in History ... I am no expert though ... ::MonkeyDevil::

I just saw this Deenie.   We were thinking the same thing.    ::MonkeyHaHa::    ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 12:12:07 PM
She is all twitchy  now that no one is beside her. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 12:12:37 PM
She is all twitchy  now that no one is beside her. 
The palms of her hands must be raw.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 12:13:36 PM
by the look on her face she is thinking "waste...huge WASTE"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 06, 2010, 12:13:46 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image175.png)

Brandi!  One of you most special pictures!  Thanks!!   ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 12:14:39 PM
FTLOG they want to waive KC's appearance requirements again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 12:15:43 PM
Bobo just said the Dr Lee is not an expert on hair decomp and the Judge just warned him that it will be served on a silver platter back at him should Dr Lee try to offer his opinion on it during trial. 
He is really in rare stupidity today - Bobo. He has made snarky remarks of the Orange County Sheriff's office * playing games with the tips on disks * He had to pay for the Psychics, adding said above that, that K9's are not worthy..and now is stating Dr Lee is not able to provide Hair Analysis confidently in testimony..
Hmmm. His Arrogance is really showing .. adding him not being prepared with defined requests of experts.
What will it take for Judge Perry to really Smack Him Hard ..I am sure it will be Soon, possibly before today's hearing is over.

OH here we go Mason ...... Casey is not a Slore. Prejudice of Public opinion. 

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 12:16:12 PM
Poor KC does not want to go to court.  Really does not want to be involve. 

Jar is now saying it is KC's rights and she does not want to be there. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 12:17:10 PM
FTLOG they want to waive KC's appearance requirements again.

Who cares what she wants? I don't.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 12:17:35 PM
I am shocked that Jar has said at least 3 times now that KC does not want to be ion court and has no interest in being there and gives the whole speech about it is her rights and she is giving up those rights by being ordered to be in court. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 12:17:42 PM
Poor KC does not want to go to court.  Really does not want to be involve. 

Jar is now saying it is KC's rights and she does not want to be there. 
Just bring a box of snacks to the courtroom she will come. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 12:18:01 PM
Miss Anthony doesn't want to be here!  Miss Anthony has rights!  WHAT ABOUT CAYLEE'S RIGHTS AS A MURDER VICTIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 12:18:34 PM
DENIED   ::MonkeyGavel::  Thank you Judge Perry!

She is excluded from status hearings unless she wants to be there but must be in court for the rest. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 12:20:28 PM
Experts for depos still has not been provided to Linda.  She pointed out that from today they are clearly ready to list experts. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 12:21:46 PM
Bobo now asking for travel for attorneys to pick a jury since they get no Jury expert.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on May 06, 2010, 12:23:24 PM
FTLOG they want to waive KC's appearance requirements again.

Who cares what she wants? I don't.   ::MonkeyCool::

I don't either.    ::MonkeyCool::    She looks pissed that she has to come and that makes me happy!    ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 12:23:59 PM
Pro Bono attorneys get JAC travel money.  JAC only pays for attorney travel for one attorney.  Travel for Pro Bono attorneys is only paid when the attorney is the only attorney on the case.  The JAC person just said there are 8 attorneys on record?   Privately retained attorneys do not get paid for travel from JAC.  Poor Bobo has to get Geraldo to foot the bill for his travel maybe?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 12:24:06 PM
DENIED   ::MonkeyGavel::  Thank you Judge Perry!

She is excluded from status hearings unless she wants to be there but must be in court for the rest. 

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 12:25:13 PM
BOZO wants his travel paid for......JP says NO!!!  BOZO says he makes $5.00 an hour!  LOL  I LOVE JUDGE PERRY ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 12:26:33 PM
FTLOG they want to waive KC's appearance requirements again.

Who cares what she wants? I don't.   ::MonkeyCool::

I don't either.    ::MonkeyCool::    She looks pissed that she has to come and that makes me happy!    ::MonkeyGavel::

Me too!   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 12:28:07 PM
 ::MonkeyCool::   I love His Honor!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 12:28:56 PM
Oh my The Jar does not like how the Judge wants the Jury selection to go and is now arguing that the defense wants to send out a jury questionnaire and the Judge just said they will bring a panel of people in and question them on the spot and pick the jury that way rather than going to a panel of 200.  Looks like the law students have wasted a bunch of time completing a jury questionnaire that may never see the light of day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 12:30:27 PM
Did Judge Perry just say to the clerk that he wanted her to alert her supervisor that he wants the trial clerks to go to the depos?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 06, 2010, 12:31:00 PM
HI all!

LOVE this judge.  Whoever thought up the idea to ask JS to step aside has to be kicking themself ::rhino:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on May 06, 2010, 12:32:09 PM
Okay, color me confused!  ::MonkeyConfused::
I saw the sidebar--Did Bozo get his in camera?   And wth is so freakin' important that he has to sneak around and not let it be public? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 12:32:14 PM
BOZO wants his travel paid for......JP says NO!!!  BOZO says he makes $5.00 an hour!  LOL  I LOVE JUDGE PERRY ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

Bobo is rude for slipping his little jabs in where he can.  Saying he makes $5.00 then maybe he can go flip burger to make some travel money.  I noticed a few times where he was slipping in statements like that today. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 12:32:20 PM
Does anyone know how Judge ruled when we were taken outside to Kathi?

I still get a sense that The Jar has some sort of old personal vendetta towards Judge Strickland, but I may be wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 12:32:29 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/23465730/detail.html
Judge Won't Seal Casey's Defense Spending Records
Posted: 4:37 pm EDT May 5, 2010Updated: 12:22 pm EDT May 6, 2010
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- At a hearing Thursday, Casey Anthony's attorneys asked Judge Belvin Perry to prevent the public from seeing how much tax money they're spending on Casey's defense, but the defense request was denied.

A judge has already declared Casey indigent, who is accused of killing her young daughter Caylee, so taxpayers will now pick up the tab for her expenses. Her attorneys wanted all of the information, which would normally be public, kept secret.
Casey Anthony walked into the courtroom around 8:50am, wearing a frilly, short-sleeve, white button down shirt with blue stripes and with her hair pulled back in a bun (images  | raw video). She sat alone at the defense table and waited for her attorneys to arrive. Jose Baez walked into the courtroom around 8:55am and took a seat next to Casey.

“First matter is a budget hearing. There’s also been notice for the date the defense request for the state to file written responses to defendant’s motions,” Judge Belvin Perry said in court as the hearing got underway.

Baez than asked for them to first discuss the motion to seal all Justice Administration Commission (JAC) documents (read it). The JAC is the body that will set forth the defense team's spending, because Casey is considered indigent and taxes will pay for much of her defense. Baez says the defense doesn't want to reveal who their expert witnesses are out of fear it will disclose their court strategy and didn't want to release the amount they're spending.

When Casey was first arrested, she had no money that was legitimately earned; she couldn't even pay Baez's $5,000 retainer. But, instead of opting for a public defender back then, only two months after Caylee had disappeared, Casey sold all of her own videos and photos of Caylee to ABC for $200,000 and two of her attorneys, one of whom has since left the case, raised another $140,000. That money is gone now and taxpayers have no idea where all of it went.
Judge Perry agreed to begin with the motion to seal the records and gave Baez an opportunity to speak first.

Baez argued that the media, "leeches" and "pseudo news media" are most interested in having access to the documents but, while there's a public right to know, it could damage her right to a fair trial. In its motion, the defense wrote, "Documents and requests for funding will lead to endless speculation as to the defense strategy for defending Miss Anthony and could ultimately affect her right to a fair trial."

“Quite frankly, the Orlando Sentinel is going to have to find another way to sell newspapers,” Baez told Judge Perry on Thursday.

Baez made further arguments to support the defense motion and then Judge Perry responded by pointing out Florida Statute 119 (read statute), which deals with access to public records.

“One more question, Mr. Baez, before you take your seat. The JAC is a state agency,” Judge Perry said. “Are there any particular statutory exceptions under [statute] 119 that you’re relying on or are you just relying on what you just told me?”

“I’m relying on my previous arguments,” Baez said.

Judge Perry thanked Baez and then called the Orlando Sentinel's attorney, who is arguing against the motion and wants access to the records, to speak.

“The request is just too broad,” attorney Rachel Fugate, with the Orlando Sentinel, argued. "At this point, I think it’s premature and it’s simply too broad."
An attorney for the JAC also spoke, briefly, but took no specific stand on the actual request and instead pointed out that the JAC does have to comply with Statute 119, unless a judge orders otherwise, and that sealing the records does put an administrative burden on their agency.

The state declined to speak on the matter, saying that they have no stand on the issue, and Judge Perry gave Baez an opportunity to respond to the arguments made.

“I disagree with Ms. Fugate where the public should know, should know what’s going on in the inner workings of the defense,” Baez argued. “It’s not the Sentinel’s life that’s on the line, it’s Casey Antony’s.”

Baez continued: “As to the JAC’s arguments, I would argue they don’t have standing to make an objection. This is a state agency and they will do what your honor orders."

Baez said that having the records sealed should actually reduce the burden on the JAC, suggesting that they wouldn't have to deal with all the media requests for documents if they weren't available.

"So the argument that this is an administrative burden falls on its face," Baez said.

After speaking briefly on the rules governing the release of such documents, Judge Perry quickly responded with his decision on the defense request.
“The court finds that the defense, at this time, has not met its burden to show that a serious and imminent threat to a fair, impartial trial has been met," Judge Perry said.

Judge Perry, though, did offer some flexibility and suggested that there could be some JAC documents that are sealed.

“Basically, we’ll have to do this on a case by case basis, or expert by expert basis,” Judge Perry said and quickly moved the hearing forward. “That takes care of the issue of the motion to seal. I guess the next thing to take care of is setting a budget.”

Baez began the budget discussion with Dr. Henry Lee, one of the forensic experts the defense has used throughout the case. However, Dr. Lee is out of state, something the defense filed a motion to seek coverage for despite the JAC's hesitation to pay for out of state witnesses (read it).

Baez argued for Dr. Lee's future costs to be covered by the JAC, but the JAC argued that it doesn't support the use of out of state experts because of the increased cost. Baez was then invited to speak again, laying out the amount of work Dr. Lee had already done for the case, including inspecting Casey's car, inspecting the site where Caylee's remains were found, as well as inspecting the crime scene analyst photographs and much of the discovery.
"While the JAC has this rule to encourage people to use instate experts, in this case the work Dr. Lee has done can't be replicated by anyone at this late state in the trial," Judge Perry said, authorizing the defense to continue to use Dr. Lee as an expert in their case.

Judge Perry also approved the defense's use of an out of state mitigation expert, but was clear that that expert and Dr. Lee are bound by the rates set by the JAC.

The JAC then asked the judge to set a spending cap on investigation spending. When asked by the judge what they suggested, the JAC suggested 30-50 hours, but Judge Perry immediately said that wouldn't be enough and, after discussion, allowed for 300 hours, despite Baez's request for 480 hours.

After a lengthy debate over the other experts the defense wants to continue using, but doesn't want to disclose in open court, Judge Perry asked for them to do a little more work before any further discussion.

“We’re going to be in recess until 10:45am,” Judge Perry said.

The judge wants to go over the defense list of experts one by one with the JAC and the defense to decide on what will be allowed and learn how much work they’ve already done.
Casey Anthony returned to the court room at 10:43am and the hearing quickly resumed as all parties involved began discussing the many experts the defense wants permission to use, despite them being out of state.

Judge Perry granted the defense request to use the following experts: forensic entomologist, anthropologist, forensic botanist, forensic pathologist, digital forensics expert, a DNA expert, two forensic chemist experts and a canine expert (up to 20 hours of work). Judge Perry was very specific that each approved expert must stick by the guidelines set forth by the JAC. He also granted up to $3,500 for public records requests.

However, Judge Perry denied without prejudice (meaning the defense can file a motion for a hearing) a taphonomy expert, a cell phone expert, and money to purchase two Pontiac Sunfires (approx $6,000) for testing. He also denied with prejudice (meaning it won't be heard again) the defense request for a jury consultant.

Around 12:05pm, the judge and Jose Baez went behind closed doors to discuss the remaining experts and requests Baez has that he doesn't want disclosed publicly or to the prosecution. They emerged less than 10 minutes later.

“Miss Anthony has requested to waive her appearances at these type of things,” Mason told the judge as the hearing was coming to a close. “She’s rather stay where she is.”

The judge, however, said that in death penalty cases things could come up where she may be needed for a response.
“It has been my experience that, in capital cases, that defendants need to be present during the preceding,” Judge Perry said. “If Ms. Anthony is found guilty of anything, it will lead to a post conviction relief proceedings, maybe ... and it always gets back to ‘my lawyer didn’t tell me this’ and ‘if I would have been there I would have done A, B, C, D.’”

Judge Perry, however, did say she did not have to attend status hearings that simply check on the progress on the case, but don’t argue motions.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 12:33:32 PM
Okay, color me confused!  ::MonkeyConfused::
I saw the sidebar--Did Bozo get his in camera?   And wth is so freakin' important that he has to sneak around and not let it be public? 

He never got his in camera and the Judge ordered the court reporter to be part of the side bar.  This is not going the way the dream team had it all planned to go.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 12:33:58 PM
BOZO wants his travel paid for......JP says NO!!!  BOZO says he makes $5.00 an hour!  LOL  I LOVE JUDGE PERRY ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

Bobo is rude for slipping his little jabs in where he can.  Saying he makes $5.00 then maybe he can go flip burger to make some travel money.  I noticed a few times where he was slipping in statements like that today. 

Wasn't Baez just being sarcastic?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 12:34:41 PM
HI all!

LOVE this judge.  Whoever thought up the idea to ask JS to step aside has to be kicking themself ::rhino:: 

Don't you know it!!! lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 12:35:12 PM
Does anyone know how Judge ruled when we were taken outside to Kathi?

I still get a sense that The Jar has some sort of old personal vendetta towards Judge Strickland, but I may be wrong.

The Defense added several things to be addressed today.  It may be best to scroll back a page as most are on here. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on May 06, 2010, 12:36:05 PM
I think the defense doesn't want Casey to attend the hearings, not because of the scrutiny of the public of her clothes, etc, but because they cannot control her and they know if she hears something she does not like, there will be hell to pay.  I also think it has to do with Cindy and George.  Her ignoring them when they have stood by her so long is such bad public relations. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 12:36:42 PM
BOZO wants his travel paid for......JP says NO!!!  BOZO says he makes $5.00 an hour!  LOL  I LOVE JUDGE PERRY ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

Bobo is rude for slipping his little jabs in where he can.  Saying he makes $5.00 then maybe he can go flip burger to make some travel money.  I noticed a few times where he was slipping in statements like that today. 

Wasn't Baez just being sarcastic?

Yes he was several times.  I think that goes against the conduct in court document they were to review and he can not help himself it seems to slip those statements in. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 06, 2010, 12:37:17 PM
The Jar just said he filed TODAY reconsideration of all prior motions.  So they are opening up everything that JS did not rule in their favour.  This case will never get to trial. 

Well, just another thing they'll be sorry about doing...Perry will schedule those motions to be heard as quickly as possible and he'll run through them in a jiffy!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: tupelohoney on May 06, 2010, 12:37:22 PM
Court went well today....gotta love JP!!  Casey still does not want to show any interest in her own life....hmmmmm.....must be real hard for her to hear JP continuously remind her how this is a murder 1 case with life or death as her sentence if found guilty. I love it every time he says it. But her? No reaction, other than boredom. How can an innocent person not give a rats ass about what is going on in her trial when death is at stake? 

Hey, did I see that the murder trial date is now June 14, 2011?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 12:37:45 PM
Okay, color me confused!  ::MonkeyConfused::
I saw the sidebar--Did Bozo get his in camera?   And wth is so freakin' important that he has to sneak around and not let it be public? 

He never got his in camera and the Judge ordered the court reporter to be part of the side bar.  This is not going the way the dream team had it all planned to go.

And just think ... we get to see A.L. try to unravel Florida law next week.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 12:37:59 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/23465730/detail.html
05/06/10
Casey In Court: http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/23472968/detail.html
Raw Video: http://www.wftv.com/video/23473636/index.html
Images: Baez,Judge ,and others in court  http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/23473280/detail.html
Hearing Part 1    http://www.wftv.com/video/23473853/index.html
           Part 2    http://www.wftv.com/video/23474395/index.html
           Part 3    http://www.wftv.com/video/23474629/index.html
Motions: Seal Spending  http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23461773/detail.html
             Pay For Experts  http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23461818/detail.html
Video Report: Defense wants spending Sealed  http://www.wftv.com/video/23467388/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 06, 2010, 12:38:54 PM
 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyBike::  OH...... AND  ::MonkeyHang::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 12:39:21 PM
Does anyone know how Judge ruled when we were taken outside to Kathi?

I still get a sense that The Jar has some sort of old personal vendetta towards Judge Strickland, but I may be wrong.

The Defense added several things to be addressed today.  It may be best to scroll back a page as most are on here. 

Thanks.


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Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 12:41:41 PM
BOZO wants his travel paid for......JP says NO!!!  BOZO says he makes $5.00 an hour!  LOL  I LOVE JUDGE PERRY ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

Bobo is rude for slipping his little jabs in where he can.  Saying he makes $5.00 then maybe he can go flip burger to make some travel money.  I noticed a few times where he was slipping in statements like that today. 

Wasn't Baez just being sarcastic?

Yes he was several times.  I think that goes against the conduct in court document they were to review and he can not help himself it seems to slip those statements in. 

He just cannot seem to control himself.   It's so dis-respectful.


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 12:42:44 PM
Every Time Judge Perry said  " ONE"  I kept thinking of the song by Three Dog Night ..

One is the loneliest Number .. Bobo.  That was  ::MonkeyGavel:: said by the JAR we only pay travel for Pro Bono counsel if their is ONE.  Judge Perry how many times did he say  " ONE" you may have ONE.

 ::MonkeyDance::

Judge Perry " Challenge for Cause" 12 + 6

I like how he stated in full clarity, very simple - Magic Question:  Ask the individual if they know the case and if their opinion is " formed" if so move along ...next.  Should only take One Week. 15mins or so per person to find the 12 + 6.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_selection

Jury selection refers to several methods used to choose the people who will serve on a trial jury. The jury pool is first selected from among the community using a reasonably random method. The prospective jurors are then questioned in court by the judge and/or attorneys.

Depending on the jurisdiction, attorneys may have an opportunity to mount a challenge for cause argument or use one of a limited number of peremptory challenges. In some jurisdictions that have capital punishment, the jury must be death-qualified to remove those who are opposed to the death penalty.

Attorneys sometimes use expert assistance in systematically choosing the jury, although other uses of jury research are becoming more common. The jury selected is said to have been "impaneled". In three studies legal authoritarianism, attitudes toward psychiatrists, and attitudes toward the insanity defense were examined as predictors of conviction-proneness in insanity defense cases.[1]  Some experts believe that 85% of cases litigated are won or lost in the jury selection phase.[2]



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Post by: mizjay on May 06, 2010, 12:42:53 PM
I think the defense doesn't want Casey to attend the hearings, not because of the scrutiny of the public of her clothes, etc, but because they cannot control her and they know if she hears something she does not like, there will be hell to pay.  I also think it has to do with Cindy and George.  Her ignoring them when they have stood by her so long is such bad public relations. 
IA, she isn't right in the head (not insane, off kilter)  and there's no way to hide it. The A's too, because they've set up their phoney baloney pep rally section, it's an act and I really think they will tire of going to these things just to pretend to support her.  HA HA they lost...again


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Post by: Sassycat on May 06, 2010, 12:44:15 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/23465730/detail.html
05/06/10
Casey In Court: http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/23472968/detail.html
Raw Video: http://www.wftv.com/video/23473636/index.html
Images: Baez,Judge ,and others in court  http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/23473280/detail.html
Hearing Part 1    http://www.wftv.com/video/23473853/index.html
           Part 2    http://www.wftv.com/video/23474395/index.html
           Part 3    http://www.wftv.com/video/23474629/index.html
Motions: Seal Spending  http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23461773/detail.html
             Pay For Experts  http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23461818/detail.html
Video Report: Defense wants spending Sealed  http://www.wftv.com/video/23467388/index.html

 ::MonkeyGavel::  Thanks Trimm.    ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: Nut44x4 on May 06, 2010, 12:45:25 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image175.png)

Brandi!  One of you most special pictures!  Thanks!!   ::MonkeyTongue::



Has she been in shackles at all the other hearings?? I don't remember that she was. If not, then why now?? Are they afraid she will jump over the table and attack the Judge?  ::MonkeyHaHa::


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Post by: darla on May 06, 2010, 12:47:40 PM
I enjoyed this hearing to the utmost. Bozo got his celebrity status brought down a few notches. lol. I love me some Judge Perry. You could just feel the contempt he has for Bozo with every question he asked him. And most of the experts he has spoken to and they have done all these long hours of investigation and it is to late to change....I call BS. The only one who has done anything is Lee and all he did was come and plant some hairs in the trunk. Bozo is just an arrogant azz idiot. Wonder how well he is respected in the dog community?   


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Post by: mizjay on May 06, 2010, 12:47:51 PM
BOZO wants his travel paid for......JP says NO!!!  BOZO says he makes $5.00 an hour!  LOL  I LOVE JUDGE PERRY ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

Bobo is rude for slipping his little jabs in where he can.  Saying he makes $5.00 then maybe he can go flip burger to make some travel money.  I noticed a few times where he was slipping in statements like that today. 

Wasn't Baez just being sarcastic?

Yes he was several times.  I think that goes against the conduct in court document they were to review and he can not help himself it seems to slip those statements in. 

They keep highlighting that this is so important, DP, and all..yet who is front and center?  Bozo, the most inept one. Makes no sense to wait and let CM take charge only at trial, all this sets the stage for trial.  Point is, I think Bozo's ego simply will not sit second chair.   Plus, did anyone see him texting/reading toward the end?


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Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 12:48:34 PM
I'm late, did the A's show up this morning?
Nope ... Mike they are probably sitting in their living room Watching this live ..
with the " BIGGEST Wad of GUM " Chewing in History ... I am no expert though ... ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


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Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 12:49:37 PM
Jonathan Kasen is on In Session right now.  They need to ask him how he is being paid now that she is indigent for the murder. 


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Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 12:54:09 PM
Jonathan Kasen is on In Session right now.  They need to ask him how he is being paid now that she is indigent for the murder. 

You are so right.


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Post by: Sister on May 06, 2010, 12:55:59 PM
I'm late, did the A's show up this morning?
Nope ... Mike they are probably sitting in their living room Watching this live ..
with the " BIGGEST Wad of GUM " Chewing in History ... I am no expert though ... ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Deenie, I am a chewing gum expert
 :lol:
Generally, when you first put the wad in your mouth, not too much chewing.  Kinda let the flavor dissolve in your mouth, lots of swallowing
 :smt110
then, an occasional chomp
 :smooch
when flavor is almost gone, you begin chewing in earnest to get the last of the flavor.  Question, does your chewing gum loose its flavor on the bedpost overnight -- answer, no -- however, one must be willing to chew as if all the winkles in the wad need to disappear.
 :geek:
Today was a good day for Caylee!!!!!


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Post by: loca on May 06, 2010, 01:00:27 PM
I'm late, did the A's show up this morning?
Nope ... Mike they are probably sitting in their living room Watching this live ..
with the " BIGGEST Wad of GUM " Chewing in History ... I am no expert though ... ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

lol on the gum!


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Post by: Love2Read on May 06, 2010, 01:00:33 PM
Wow, the minute Mason approached the bench, the woman got up and took his seat. And Casey began writing to her.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image158-1.png)



I believe that is Bobo's assistant, at the last meeting she helped him get some papers out of a briefcase.
What is interesting to me is that she has a cell phone in her hand and Casey is writing a note, I think this person is relaying a message to someone for Casey. To who, C and G or maybe Lee?   I could have swore Casey mouthed thank you to her when she got up.



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Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 06, 2010, 01:00:39 PM
Did Judge Perry just say to the clerk that he wanted her to alert her supervisor that he wants the trial clerks to go to the depos?

Sounded like that to me too NR


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Post by: Love2Read on May 06, 2010, 01:01:49 PM
OMG Bozo just said his expert was well respected in the dog community. ROFLMAO

Dogs sniff each other's butts as a howdie doodie.  Wonder how he became respected?   ::MonkeyJnBox::   ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyDevil::  Gonna need to change my Depends... ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


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Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 06, 2010, 01:02:25 PM
Funny, did anyone see or hear any sneezes out of the skank? ::MonkeyHaHa::

I guess you can't sneeze when you're in a fishbowl.........


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Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 06, 2010, 01:03:53 PM
OMG Bozo just said his expert was well respected in the dog community. ROFLMAO

Dogs sniff each other's butts as a howdie doodie.  Wonder how he became respected?   ::MonkeyJnBox::   ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyDevil::  Gonna need to change my Depends... ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

OMG I almost peed myself when bozo went on about his expert vet....... ::MonkeyJnBox::


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 01:04:31 PM
Mason and Baez seem to be Hell Bent on one issue - that is so obvious you can practically see it walk through the room and present itself.

Casey is a victim. That she is a victim of the Media. A victim of Public Scrutiny. A Victim that is not being offered her Civil Rights.  Victim Victim Victim ...
As if they are reminding the Court she needs to be handled with Kid Gloves and she requires " Special and Unique to no other Case in History " Consideration. That Casey was duped into her seat as defendant by all reasons I stated above.  Have they " Dufense" forgot why she is their client? I am pretty sure they understand her Innocence of being involved is off the table - they are trying to prove her Innocent of MURDER of Her own Child being premeditated or ?  Their treatment towards her as being this little defenseless "girl" that everyone wants a piece of her * Because she is Casey Anthony * nothing to do with Caylee... is preposterous.

Its disgusting beyond words.

Monka I wonder too if Casey would or will flip out * Defense is worried- She will have a panic attack or strike of Anger, as we have seen her face go twisted before..when the State was speaking of the duct tape applied to Caylee's little face.  That Lyon was coddling her and holding her next to her body ... Wonder how Judge Perry will look at that if it happens in his court room. If Lyon or Bobo feels the need to HOLD her to console ... Poor Little Casey needs a there there ... are you okay ??  ::MonkeyMad::

sorry  ::MonkeyCool::  I had to rant .........

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 06, 2010, 01:06:35 PM
I wonder is the expert Baez had to talk about in camera is someone who's area of expertise is sexual abuse??
hmmmmmmmmm ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 01:07:39 PM
I'm late, did the A's show up this morning?
Nope ... Mike they are probably sitting in their living room Watching this live ..
with the " BIGGEST Wad of GUM " Chewing in History ... I am no expert though ... ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Deenie, I am a chewing gum expert
 :lol:
Generally, when you first put the wad in your mouth, not too much chewing.  Kinda let the flavor dissolve in your mouth, lots of swallowing
 :smt110
then, an occasional chomp
 :smooch
when flavor is almost gone, you begin chewing in earnest to get the last of the flavor.  Question, does your chewing gum loose its flavor on the bedpost overnight -- answer, no -- however, one must be willing to chew as if all the winkles in the wad need to disappear.
 :geek:
Today was a good day for Caylee!!!!!
Your too funny Sister ... Yes It was in some ways a very good day for Caylee.
Bozo surely attempted to run his mouth ...as always .. Circles.


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Post by: darla on May 06, 2010, 01:12:21 PM
Well Monks real life is calling so i must run. Hope you all have a wonderful day.

JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE

It is coming babygirl!


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 01:14:18 PM
I wonder is the expert Baez had to talk about in camera is someone who's area of expertise is sexual abuse??
hmmmmmmmmm ::MonkeyCool::
Bingo, I will bet money on it. Sure would love to know where George and Cindy were today.


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Post by: mizjay on May 06, 2010, 01:14:39 PM
I wonder is the expert Baez had to talk about in camera is someone who's area of expertise is sexual abuse??
hmmmmmmmmm ::MonkeyCool::

This will get interesting if the sexual abuse angle comes front and center. Conway has spoken, said it isn't true.  Will george or Lee be willing to martyr themselves for her?


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 01:14:51 PM
Well Monks real life is calling so i must run. Hope you all have a wonderful day.

JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE

It is coming babygirl!
Have a good day  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 01:15:22 PM
I wonder is the expert Baez had to talk about in camera is someone who's area of expertise is sexual abuse??
hmmmmmmmmm ::MonkeyCool::

This will get interesting if the sexual abuse angle comes front and center. Conway has spoken, said it isn't true.  Will george or Lee be willing to martyr themselves for her?
I see George being the martyr.


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Post by: Gypsy DD on May 06, 2010, 01:16:40 PM
I wonder is the expert Baez had to talk about in camera is someone who's area of expertise is sexual abuse??
hmmmmmmmmm ::MonkeyCool::
Bingo, I will bet money on it. Sure would love to know where George and Cindy were today.

I agree and wonder why the As were a no show today.


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Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 06, 2010, 01:16:57 PM
I wonder is the expert Baez had to talk about in camera is someone who's area of expertise is sexual abuse??
hmmmmmmmmm ::MonkeyCool::
Bingo, I will bet money on it. Sure would love to know where George and Cindy were today.

If I had to guess, they weren't in court for that reason......had Judge Perry not allowed in-camera, and brought out to the public.....well, you can imagine the chaos......IMO


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Post by: Gypsy DD on May 06, 2010, 01:19:03 PM
That makes perfect sense seeme.  I did notice Brad was there..so he can brief them.


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Post by: mizjay on May 06, 2010, 01:21:13 PM
I wonder is the expert Baez had to talk about in camera is someone who's area of expertise is sexual abuse??
hmmmmmmmmm ::MonkeyCool::

This will get interesting if the sexual abuse angle comes front and center. Conway has spoken, said it isn't true.  Will george or Lee be willing to martyr themselves for her?
I see George being the martyr.

OOOh, I don't know. He kinda seems like he might be willing to do it, yet he is pretty narcissistic himself. can't imagine either of them setting themselves up for a lifetime of finger pointing and gossip. Will he need to confess to their new church pals, it will totally screw up his dream of being the roaming gnome of missing children cases!!


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 01:21:57 PM
In the very Beginning Judge Perry renounced - when speaking of Cameras in Court

That the only consideration the Court would uphold (to Block Cameras)  would be is if the Defendant was " Mentally Impaired" or if the Defendant was considered to be Incompetent (( which I believe he means proven legally/medically Insane ))

Proven to the court without a doubt by Medical Professionals/tests/analysis   
That would be his only consideration for Cameras Media to be Blocked in the Trial

He said something of that would have to supplied to the Court  "Motion" ( Medical Records proving)  request to the court prior to Trial. Basically stating the Defense would have to have documentation proving the defendant - Incompetent and or Impaired - Which Baez nor Mason have not attempted that Card as of yet- I don't think they will be able to NOW.. which is a beautiful thing. Because its on record with Judge Perry " That as of 9 am this Morning" neither of those Motions have ever been filed. Nor has it been said to date with any proof that Casey is documented incompetent/impaired. (Post her Psych Exams)   
You can't go Backwards ...... again Bobo shot himself in the Foot with the motion to Seal of Cameras in the Court. 
 ::MonkeyGavel::


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Post by: Gypsy DD on May 06, 2010, 01:22:19 PM
That may also be why Casey doesn't want to have to come to court anylonger..
Heck Casey loved coming to court before..not so much now..she's missing her lunch and she can't flirt with the boys on her team.


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Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 06, 2010, 01:24:38 PM
That makes perfect sense seeme.  I did notice Brad was there..so he can brief them.

IMO it has to be someone whose area of expertise is mental illness, or sexual abuse for their defense.....I mean who's left?.......well there is that taphonomy expert novel science expert...pfffft


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 06, 2010, 01:29:24 PM
I wonder is the expert Baez had to talk about in camera is someone who's area of expertise is sexual abuse??
hmmmmmmmmm ::MonkeyCool::

This will get interesting if the sexual abuse angle comes front and center. Conway has spoken, said it isn't true.  Will george or Lee be willing to martyr themselves for her?
I see George being the martyr.

OOOh, I don't know. He kinda seems like he might be willing to do it, yet he is pretty narcissistic himself. can't imagine either of them setting themselves up for a lifetime of finger pointing and gossip. Will he need to confess to their new church pals, it will totally screw up his dream of being the roaming gnome of missing children cases!!

BBM.

LOL mizjay..I agree George is willing to go under the bus..but not under the circumstances of sexual abuse...no way..no how.  He and Lee already said it never happened..so they can't unring that bell.


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Post by: mizjay on May 06, 2010, 01:31:10 PM
Seems like the jury selection issue must have stunned them.  Bet they had visions of having the students combing thru questionaires for weeks, hand picking selections for Lyon's approval. Optimum chances of sympathetic jurors, now they will need to actually put to good use all their collective courtroom wisdom.   They asked for this, now they got it, ha ha  again


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 06, 2010, 01:38:49 PM
I wonder is the expert Baez had to talk about in camera is someone who's area of expertise is sexual abuse??
hmmmmmmmmm ::MonkeyCool::

This will get interesting if the sexual abuse angle comes front and center. Conway has spoken, said it isn't true.  Will george or Lee be willing to martyr themselves for her?
I see George being the martyr.

OOOh, I don't know. He kinda seems like he might be willing to do it, yet he is pretty narcissistic himself. can't imagine either of them setting themselves up for a lifetime of finger pointing and gossip. Will he need to confess to their new church pals, it will totally screw up his dream of being the roaming gnome of missing children cases!!

BBM.

LOL mizjay..I agree George is willing to go under the bus..but not under the circumstances of sexual abuse...no way..no how.  He and Lee already said it never happened..so they can't unring that bell.
Gypsy,  and too, all this time the A's have been attempting to put an image out to the public as stunned, grieving, supportive, loving parents. The foundation they set up depends on having a credible reputation. The future specials with ABC will need to take a dramatic course change if the family cops to sexual abuse, are they willing?  And it's not going to fly if either of them think they can get on the stand and admit to something and after trial recant it.


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 01:49:24 PM
That blouse that Casey is wearing was on clearance at Target, and whoever purchased that, it doesn't fit her proper.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: NoRose I thought the very same thing when I first saw her enter the Court Room... I was envisioning the red orange Target clearance sticker on a tag hanging off her shirt  $2.98 ..you could tell it went from Hanger to her Body ....  never been washed.
too funny. 

 

 


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 01:52:08 PM
If anyone missed the hearing, wftv has it in 4 parts


http://www.wftv.com/news/index.html


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Post by: Missiontoconvict on May 06, 2010, 01:52:25 PM
Thank you all for the updates and comments about the hearing, much appreciated.  I could only catch bits and pieces because of work. 

I just watched the interview Bia$$ did with the media and Kathi B afterwards and I cannot believe how juvenile Bia$$ is......setting ground rules or I am not gonna play - geeeeez just like a child who can't play nice in the sandbox - it is so obvious that Kathi B intimidates the he!! out of him and I love it.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


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Post by: Missiontoconvict on May 06, 2010, 01:53:35 PM
If anyone missed the hearing, wftv has it in 4 parts


http://www.wftv.com/news/index.html
Thanks Sunny  ::MonkeyKiss::


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 01:56:36 PM
Perhaps it's just me (or wishful thinking) but I seem to see a little twinkle in JP's eye every time BOZO gets up to speak and then they really start to shine when JP has had enough.....and is ready to rule!  ::MonkeyTongue::


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 02:09:20 PM
Not sure if this link will work or not

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=37484564

Page 2 is interesting. This is the Amended Motion filing May 4th - on Barrett the Mitigation specialist
That she will except the JAR fee / rate

It is written page 2 Miss Anthony's welfare of all items that would have been told to Barrett - which is a laundry list ..to include any mistreatment, abuse etc.. that she would have experienced by Family members etc... That not to include Barrett in the Trial would be a severe disadvantage. It also says page 2. Mitigation: exposes a Raw Nerve by re-traumatizing and scratching the scars nearest to the clients heart. That is a process of humiliation ........good gawd.

This is written and signed off from Office of Baez - May 4 2010
I bet a wood nickle that Barrett wrote this " herself " and sent it to Bobo -  he then signed and submitted it to the court.

jic the top link does not work: the document is hard to read its blurry
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/37484564/05042010-AMENDED-MOTION-FOR-JUSTICE-ADMINISTRATION-COMMISSlON-HEARING-AND-MOTION-For-Approval-Of-Out-Of-State-Mitigation-Specialist-and-Expert-Witnesses






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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 02:13:14 PM
Perhaps it's just me (or wishful thinking) but I seem to see a little twinkle in JP's eye every time BOZO gets up to speak and then they really start to shine when JP has had enough.....and is ready to rule!  ::MonkeyTongue::

Sunny I busted out laughing when Judge Perry asked how many "experts" Baez had ??

and Bobo said  "  19 "

Judge Perry made a slow motion of turning his upper torso made the face of all faces  ..and he replied  "you have"    NY-AYAN-TEEN   ::MonkeyHaHa::


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 02:18:17 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/05/casey-anthony-judge-belvin-perry-wows-trutv-analysts.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Court TV — posted by halboedeker on May, 6 2010 10:50 AM
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Chief Circuit Judge Belvin Perry Jr. continues to earn rave reviews.

During this morning’s hearing on controlling Casey Anthony’s defense costs, truTV commentators praised Perry.

On “In Session,” Vinnie Politan said, “Wow! Again, I am just absolutely shocked at the difference that we’re seeing inside this courtroom … and the way the judge is approaching everything. He is thorough, he is fair, and he’s getting stuff done.”

Politan said Perry was walking a tight rope in trying to give Anthony a fair trial but also watch taxpayer dollars.

“I think he’s doing a fine job of walking that tight rope,” said former federal prosecutor Sunny Hostin.  ”His reasoning is very judicial … And I don’t think he’s giving the prosecution more leeway than he is giving the defense, and vice versa.”

Politan said Perry is the kind of judge who requires attorneys to be prepared.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 02:24:09 PM
Thank-you for all the links and articles  ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 02:32:03 PM
The judge said one week for jury selection, and Baez laughed  ::MonkeyEek::


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Post by: Tevye on May 06, 2010, 02:32:21 PM
OMG Bozo just said his expert was well respected in the dog community. ROFLMAO
OMG, I'm just rolling with laughter here! I so wish I could have watched this, sounds like Bobo was in rare form today! I'm so thankful for all the commentary from you all!! ::MonkeyGavel::


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 02:41:29 PM
Casey - How she has changed


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 02:42:46 PM
Jail hasn't been kind, she has aged considerably, good.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 02:43:51 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/05/casey-anthony-defense-having-its-wings-clipped-wftv-reports.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29
Casey Anthony: Defense ‘having its wings clipped,’ WFTV reports
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Jose Baez, WESH, WFTV, WKMG — posted by halboedeker on May, 6 2010 12:28 PM
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How did television see today’s hearing on public money for Casey Anthony’s case? The hearing was still going on as stations offered updates at noon.

WFTV-Channel 9 anchor Vanessa Echols noted that Chief Circuit Judge Belvin Perry Jr. had refused a defense request to have its financial records sealed.

“The defense is having its wings clipped, for sure, after flying through $340,000,” WFTV’s Kathi Belich reported. “The judge is clamping down now on defense spending.”

Belich noted that Perry rejected defense requests for a jury-selection consultant and for two forensic pathologists (the defense gets one instead). But Perry allowed the defense to keep Dr. Henry Lee and some other out-of-state experts.

WESH-Channel 2’s Jeff Lennox said the hearing was entering its fourth hour at noon. “So far, her attorney Jose Baez has talked about 17 different experts and how they are distributing all of your tax money and what they may need in the future,” Lennox said.

Anthony has been declared indigent, and public money will go to pay for expenses in her murder trial. She is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

WKMG-Channel 6 Louis Bolden said, “After today’s hearing, which is still going on, the public will have a right to know how much money is being spent.”


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Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 06, 2010, 02:44:36 PM
I read JAC's motion yesterday, on page 7 it states they will not pay for jury consultants of any kind.....of course Bozo probably thought KC is so special, that rule would not pertain to her case..........he's such a DOLT!

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/36596270/03192010-JAC-Post-Hearing-Memorandum

I just  :smt055 Judge Perry!


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Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 02:46:20 PM
What a big baby Bobo is.  If you don't play with my rules I am going to go walk way and pout.    ::MonkeyJnBox::    ::MonkeyJnBox::     ::MonkeyJnBox::    ::MonkeyJnBox::

http://www.wftv.com/video/23475978/index.html


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Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 02:47:36 PM
CASEY IN COURT:

See Images
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/23472968/detail.html

Raw Video
http://www.wftv.com/video/23473636/index.html


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Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 06, 2010, 02:47:49 PM
The judge said one week for jury selection, and Baez laughed  ::MonkeyEek::

Didn't you just want to hug Ashton when he stood and said he has experienced the method of jury selection Judge Perry is proposing and had no objection to it!!! ::MonkeyBike::


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 02:48:15 PM

RAW INTERVIEW: Jose Baez Talks To WFTV After Budget Hearing 4:29
Casey Anthony's Attorney, Jose Baez, spoke with WFTV after her budget hearing Thursday. (05/06/10)
http://www.wftv.com/video/23475978/index.html

VIDEO REPORT: Casey Anthony Attends Budget Hearing 2:06
http://www.wftv.com/video/23475537/index.html



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Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 02:49:26 PM
IMAGES IN COURT:

Baez, Judge,  Others In Court
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/23473280/detail.html


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 02:49:58 PM
What a big baby Bobo is.  If you don't play with my rules I am going to go walk way and pout.    ::MonkeyJnBox::    ::MonkeyJnBox::     ::MonkeyJnBox::    ::MonkeyJnBox::

http://www.wftv.com/video/23475978/index.html
He doesn't want to be harassed, well then walk away and say no comment, dumbazz.


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 02:52:27 PM
Jail hasn't been kind, she has aged considerably, good.
I agree with you No Rose. Even though today she looked like a 12 yr old - in comparison today to the that top photo I added  HOLY COW  ::CowWave:: You can really see the difference " Huge" in her face/body everything. Whew wee .. she is certainly no longer Fresh Faced ,, all that Junk Food ...that Mason so spoke of today is catching up with her.  Sorry Casey we don't feel sorry for you, not one cheeto's worth

 


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 02:54:27 PM
The judge said one week for jury selection, and Baez laughed  ::MonkeyEek::

Didn't you just want to hug Ashton when he stood and said he has experienced the method of jury selection Judge Perry is proposing and had no objection to it!!! ::MonkeyBike::
Yes  ::MonkeyCool::  That was the most shocking for me today, no jury consultant. But then why should there be when you are indigent? Unusual though not to have one with a high profile case.


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 02:56:35 PM
What a big baby Bobo is.  If you don't play with my rules I am going to go walk way and pout.    ::MonkeyJnBox::    ::MonkeyJnBox::     ::MonkeyJnBox::    ::MonkeyJnBox::

http://www.wftv.com/video/23475978/index.html

he is soooooooooooooooooooooooooo skeered of Kathi! ::MonkeyDevil::

What a putz!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 02:57:15 PM
Jail hasn't been kind, she has aged considerably, good.
I agree with you No Rose. Even though today she looked like a 12 yr old - in comparison today to the that top photo I added  HOLY COW  ::CowWave:: You can really see the difference " Huge" in her face/body everything. Whew wee .. she is certainly no longer Fresh Faced ,, all that Junk Food ...that Mason so spoke of today is catching up with her.  Sorry Casey we don't feel sorry for you, not one cheeto's worth

 
They are portraying her, or at least trying to, a fresh faced, innocent young woman, well it didn't work. The next time by her a blouse where her breasts don't look like they are almost hanging to her stomach. I just have to laugh, because while browsing through the clearance rack at Target, though it also could have been Walmart  ::MonkeyTongue:: I saw a very similar blouse.


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 02:58:08 PM
OMG Bozo just said his expert was well respected in the dog community. ROFLMAO
OMG, I'm just rolling with laughter here! I so wish I could have watched this, sounds like Bobo was in rare form today! I'm so thankful for all the commentary from you all!! ::MonkeyGavel::

Tevye, wftv has it up in 4 parts ::MonkeyGavel::


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Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 06, 2010, 03:03:16 PM
Sunny!  You know I always loved the "put on your big girl panties" ... hugely love the big girl panties guy running below your posts!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

and to be on topic ...

Casey isn't indigent enough for me ... I want the court to take away all her commissary money too!   ::MonkeyDevil::


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Post by: Blumonkey on May 06, 2010, 03:07:45 PM
The replay of the March 18 hearing on truTV gave a bird's eye view of the difference a judge makes. Judge Perry is fair to each side but will not bend the rules for anyone. This alone favors the prosecution. He is not swayed in the least by Mason, Lyon, or any big name the defense can conjure up. I know he came to this case by action taken by the defense but this could not have worked out better as we seek justice for Caylee. To me, it appears he is on the bench by Divine Appointment. Sometimes things are done with evil motives and God turns it around for the good ! ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 03:08:57 PM
Sunny!  You know I always loved the "put on your big girl panties" ... hugely love the big girl panties guy running below your posts!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

and to be on topic ...

Casey isn't indigent enough for me ... I want the court to take away all her commissary money too!   ::MonkeyDevil::

Thanks newfie...........they do come in handy a LOT!  LOL  good to see you back!!

I wonder who is paying BOZO. I can't believe he is doing this pro bono, when I look at his cases they are mostly small time stuff which doesn't equal a lot of money (however according to Hornsby he has raised his fees considerably since he got FAMOUS) let me get my tongue out of my cheek!   and to the best of my recollection I can't remember him ever stating he was working pro bono. Also who is paying her lawyer in ZFG's case...Kassen (sic)


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Post by: sharon on May 06, 2010, 03:11:11 PM
If anyone missed the hearing, wftv has it in 4 parts


http://www.wftv.com/news/index.html

Thanks, Sunny  ::HelloKitty::


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Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 06, 2010, 03:13:26 PM
So this Ms. Barrett after talking to family......what's she gonna say, she should be pitied and spared the DP because the entire family hated KC cause she was a liar and a thief.....good luck with that as an excuse for murdering your baby Caylee! ::MonkeyMad::


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 03:13:43 PM
After today's performance of Bahyez ...I think it is very clear by the Eye Rolls and the Looks coming off Mason ..that he needs to get his act in check.
Soon enough this could all be a distant memory for  :clown: ::MonkeyRoll::

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Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 06, 2010, 03:17:57 PM

Thanks newfie...........they do come in handy a LOT!  LOL  good to see you back!!

I wonder who is paying BOZO. I can't believe he is doing this pro bono, when I look at his cases they are mostly small time stuff which doesn't equal a lot of money (however according to Hornsby he has raised his fees considerably since he got FAMOUS) let me get my tongue out of my cheek!   and to the best of my recollection I can't remember him ever stating he was working pro bono. Also who is paying her lawyer in ZFG's case...Kassen (sic)

I don't care what they say ... I still think there is some under the radar dealing.  How in the world is he paying his personal expenses and his office expenses when working on this case 24/7 for two years with hardly any pay?  I don't know what his wife does - but I wouldn't think she'd be financially supporting the home and his law office this whole time out of her own pocket.


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Post by: Sister on May 06, 2010, 03:27:08 PM
The replay of the March 18 hearing on truTV gave a bird's eye view of the difference a judge makes. Judge Perry is fair to each side but will not bend the rules for anyone. This alone favors the prosecution. He is not swayed in the least by Mason, Lyon, or any big name the defense can conjure up. I know he came to this case by action taken by the defense but this could not have worked out better as we seek justice for Caylee. To me, it appears he is on the bench by Divine Appointment. Sometimes things are done with evil motives and God turns it around for the good ! ::MonkeyAngel::
Blu, I couldn't agree with you more as in -- be careful what you ask for!!!!!
We ask for Justice for Caylee and I see it coming down the road!


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Post by: mizjay on May 06, 2010, 03:28:21 PM
What a big baby Bobo is.  If you don't play with my rules I am going to go walk way and pout.    ::MonkeyJnBox::    ::MonkeyJnBox::     ::MonkeyJnBox::    ::MonkeyJnBox::

http://www.wftv.com/video/23475978/index.html
He doesn't want to be harassed, well then walk away and say no comment, dumbazz.

OMG I finally watched that!  Baez may as well have a baby rattle in his hand. He is the most ridiculous lawyer I 've ever seen.   And also Mason's dumb comment about it being refreshing?  right, sure, that's why your partner just stalked off cryin


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 03:28:28 PM
So this Ms. Barrett after talking to family......what's she gonna say, she should be pitied and spared the DP because the entire family hated KC cause she was a liar and a thief.....good luck with that as an excuse for murdering your baby Caylee! ::MonkeyMad::
I guess Seeme that is her position within is to portray Casey as necessary hah. Bobo said that this woman has interviewed all these relatives of Casey's ..from Ohio, Carolina's ... who are these people. Since day one  "no one" from the family but Rick Plesea has ever spoke out. Its been CA/GA/LA and Grandma Shirley. Not one " Friend of Family" has ever been heard of or seen. Even the Neighbors don't want to be involved.  Who are all these " family members" that were interviewed by Barrett to represent Casey's person/present/past ??
Beat me with a stick  :smt075  :smt102 .. sounds like nonsense, but then again it was Bobo who explained her " Barrett's"  key purpose for testimony.   



 


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Post by: Wyks on May 06, 2010, 03:30:15 PM
Nebraska !!!!!!!!! LOLOLOL...

 ::MonkeyEek::  Present and accounted for!  Uh.... what about Nebraska?   ::dogwag::


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Post by: Love2Read on May 06, 2010, 03:35:40 PM
What a big baby Bobo is.  If you don't play with my rules I am going to go walk way and pout.    ::MonkeyJnBox::    ::MonkeyJnBox::     ::MonkeyJnBox::    ::MonkeyJnBox::

http://www.wftv.com/video/23475978/index.html
He doesn't want to be harassed, well then walk away and say no comment, dumbazz.

What a baby Bobo is.   I love Kathy B.


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Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 06, 2010, 03:36:59 PM
Nebraska !!!!!!!!! LOLOLOL...

 ::MonkeyEek::  Present and accounted for!  Uh.... what about Nebraska?   ::dogwag::


Hi Wyks!  One of the expert witnesses is from Nebraska ... can't remember which one ... or what side they're on ... I was too busy trying to figure out where the expert entomologist for the State was from in Indiana (IU or Purdue?)  Purdue I hope! 


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Post by: mizjay on May 06, 2010, 03:42:42 PM
So this Ms. Barrett after talking to family......what's she gonna say, she should be pitied and spared the DP because the entire family hated KC cause she was a liar and a thief.....good luck with that as an excuse for murdering your baby Caylee! ::MonkeyMad::
I guess Seeme that is her position within is to portray Casey as necessary hah. Bobo said that this woman has interviewed all these relatives of Casey's ..from Ohio, Carolina's ... who are these people. Since day one  "no one" from the family but Rick Plesea has ever spoke out. Its been CA/GA/LA and Grandma Shirley. Not one " Friend of Family" has ever been heard of or seen. Even the Neighbors don't want to be involved.  Who are all these " family members" that were interviewed by Barrett to represent Casey's person/present/past ??
Beat me with a stick  :smt075  :smt102 .. sounds like nonsense, but then again it was Bobo who explained her " Barrett's"  key purpose for testimony.   



 
Sounds like the long arm of investigating mitigating circumstances has gone past the immediate family and now has reached into the hidey holes that the parental A's have in their past. Maybe the destruction of the perfect family has started. We already know that CA really hates to be confronted with truth, it's got to be killing her to find out that the defense henchmen are beating the bushes regarding their past.


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Post by: Western Observr on May 06, 2010, 03:43:38 PM
The replay of the March 18 hearing on truTV gave a bird's eye view of the difference a judge makes. Judge Perry is fair to each side but will not bend the rules for anyone. This alone favors the prosecution. He is not swayed in the least by Mason, Lyon, or any big name the defense can conjure up. I know he came to this case by action taken by the defense but this could not have worked out better as we seek justice for Caylee. To me, it appears he is on the bench by Divine Appointment. Sometimes things are done with evil motives and God turns it around for the good ! ::MonkeyAngel::

I only got to watch for a while this am but that song 'What a difference a day makes' kept running through my mind, but I was singing Judge instead of day.  Unless you had watched JStrickland and then Judge Perry you could not imagine the difference! I am so impressed with this Judge, he has seen it/done it/been there and Bozo's flim flam is not going to get past him.
Interesting they have spent SO many hours on the mitigation side of this, they KNOW she is going down.  It was so refreshing to see Bozo getting his azz kicked this am.
He even managed to call Mason's bluff with the request for a Jury Selection expert- since he and Mason had worked together so many times, and selected Juries without problem.
I just got back in, so will watch the end of the hearing and post again no doubt!
 


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Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 06, 2010, 03:45:56 PM
Sounds like the long arm of investigating mitigating circumstances has gone past the immediate family and now has reached into the hidey holes that the parental A's have in their past. Maybe the destruction of the perfect family has started. We already know that CA really hates to be confronted with truth, it's got to be killing her to find out that the defense henchmen are beating the bushes regarding their past.

Hi mizjay!  I'd love to be a fly on the wall during these interviews!  I bet CA is wishing she'd been a little nicer to her family about now!


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 03:45:56 PM
What a big baby Bobo is.  If you don't play with my rules I am going to go walk way and pout.    ::MonkeyJnBox::    ::MonkeyJnBox::     ::MonkeyJnBox::    ::MonkeyJnBox::

http://www.wftv.com/video/23475978/index.html
He doesn't want to be harassed, well then walk away and say no comment, dumbazz.

What a baby Bobo is.   I love Kathy B.
He certainly thinks he is The Man outside of Court Room .. man he was doing the the Bozo Strut ..all he was Missing was a Can of Paint to go with his cell phone ........
He needs to think first before he starts telling Kathi B she is the game player - when she is asking questions for the tax payers of Florida..

http://www.youtube.com/v/okpCx87orOA&hl=en_US&fs=1&







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Post by: Blumonkey on May 06, 2010, 03:47:28 PM
The replay of the March 18 hearing on truTV gave a bird's eye view of the difference a judge makes. Judge Perry is fair to each side but will not bend the rules for anyone. This alone favors the prosecution. He is not swayed in the least by Mason, Lyon, or any big name the defense can conjure up. I know he came to this case by action taken by the defense but this could not have worked out better as we seek justice for Caylee. To me, it appears he is on the bench by Divine Appointment. Sometimes things are done with evil motives and God turns it around for the good ! ::MonkeyAngel::
Blu, I couldn't agree with you more as in -- be careful what you ask for!!!!!
We ask for Justice for Caylee and I see it coming down the road!
Sister, Amen and amen !


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Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 03:50:02 PM
I wonder is the expert Baez had to talk about in camera is someone who's area of expertise is sexual abuse??
hmmmmmmmmm ::MonkeyCool::
Bingo, I will bet money on it. Sure would love to know where George and Cindy were today.

I agree and wonder why the As were a no show today.

I frankly think they're miffed about the no-nosense persona of His Honor----they're rebellious geriatric juvenile delinquents and won't be there unless it's absolutely necessary,imo.   


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 03:50:49 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23465765/detail.html
Judge Denies Anthony Records Request
Casey Anthony Charged With Murder In Death Of Daughter

POSTED: Wednesday, May 5, 2010
UPDATED: 2:45 pm EDT May 6, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The trial of Casey Anthony, who is charged with murdering her toddler daughter, will be a "battle of the experts" because of circumstantial evidence in the case, a judge said Thursday as he picked which specialists defense attorneys could hire with public funds.

Today's Hearing: http://www.clickorlando.com/slideshow/news/23473143/detail.html
Previous Hearing: http://www.clickorlando.com/slideshow/news/23473143/detail.html
Party:  http://www.clickorlando.com/slideshow/news/19579048/detail.html   (link does not work)
Family: http://www.clickorlando.com/slideshow/news/18831554/detail.html
Casey Anthony, 24, has been declared indigent, allowing public money to pay for expert witnesses and costs other than attorney fees.

During Thursday's hearing, Orange County Circuit Judge Belvin Perry denied requests to spend public money on four expert witnesses and forensic tests requested by Anthony's defense attorneys. The judge nixed a trace evidence expert, a cell phone expert, a jury consultant and money for a car to replicate evidence found in Anthony's car.

"A blanket order to seal, the court finds that the defense at this time has not met its burden to show that a serious and imminent threat to a fair and partial trial has been met," Perry said.

Perry approved spending public money on 10 other experts, including a bug expert, a forensic anthropologist, a forensic botanist and famed forensics expert Henry Lee, who has worked on the Phil Spector and JonBenet Ramsey cases. Those experts can give opinions on body decomposition based on plant growth and insects found around a body.
Perry denied a request from Anthony's attorneys to seal all records related to the public funding of her defense. The defense attorneys had argued their release would jeopardize her right to a fair trial by revealing defense strategy.

Rachel Fugate, an attorney for The Orlando Sentinel, told a judge that the request was too broad.

Anthony has pleaded not guilty, claiming a baby sitter kidnapped her daughter. Anthony's murder trial is set to start in May 2011.

Caylee was 2 years old she disappeared in June 2008, but she wasn't reported missing until almost a month later. Her remains were found in December 2008 in woods not far from the home she lived with her mother and grandparents.

At a hearing last week, Perry discussed a possible change of venue for the trial.

The state said it will not oppose most of the defense motion for a change of venue, but that only means a jury would be chosen in another Florida city. The jurors would then be brought back to Orange County for the trial, which attorneys predicted could take up to nine weeks.

Although a ruling has not been made on the change of venue, Perry indicated that if it happens, the jury would likely be sequestered in a hotel room.

"It's no secret that this case has received widespread publicity," Perry said. "The only way ... to make sure that they are not infected or polluted during this proceeding is to sequester them."

Perry took over Anthony's murder case after Orange County Circuit Judge Stan Strickland recused himself. Strickland's move followed a defense motion asking that Strickland be disqualified over a friendship with a blogger.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.


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Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 03:51:35 PM
I wonder is the expert Baez had to talk about in camera is someone who's area of expertise is sexual abuse??
hmmmmmmmmm ::MonkeyCool::
Bingo, I will bet money on it. Sure would love to know where George and Cindy were today.

If I had to guess, they weren't in court for that reason......had Judge Perry not allowed in-camera, and brought out to the public.....well, you can imagine the chaos......IMO

Good point.


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Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 06, 2010, 03:52:45 PM

I frankly think they're miffed about the no-nosense persona of His Honor----they're rebellious geriatric juvenile delinquents  and won't be there unless it's absolutely necessary,imo.   

 ::MonkeyHaHa::
Describes them to a T


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Post by: mizjay on May 06, 2010, 03:53:42 PM
Sounds like the long arm of investigating mitigating circumstances has gone past the immediate family and now has reached into the hidey holes that the parental A's have in their past. Maybe the destruction of the perfect family has started. We already know that CA really hates to be confronted with truth, it's got to be killing her to find out that the defense henchmen are beating the bushes regarding their past.

Hi mizjay!  I'd love to be a fly on the wall during these interviews!  I bet CA is wishing she'd been a little nicer to her family about now!
Hey NEWF~  Good to see ya.      In the beginning, remember any and every little thing that would come out, Spindy always had a ready answer for. She could always yell and come up with explanations ( the pizza, the chlorophyll etc)  It's a mind bender to know people that you prolly haven't seen or talked to in a while are being interviewed, no telling what stories they can tell about the A's and there's not a darn thing she can do about it.


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 03:57:16 PM
So this Ms. Barrett after talking to family......what's she gonna say, she should be pitied and spared the DP because the entire family hated KC cause she was a liar and a thief.....good luck with that as an excuse for murdering your baby Caylee! ::MonkeyMad::
I guess Seeme that is her position within is to portray Casey as necessary hah. Bobo said that this woman has interviewed all these relatives of Casey's ..from Ohio, Carolina's ... who are these people. Since day one  "no one" from the family but Rick Plesea has ever spoke out. Its been CA/GA/LA and Grandma Shirley. Not one " Friend of Family" has ever been heard of or seen. Even the Neighbors don't want to be involved.  Who are all these " family members" that were interviewed by Barrett to represent Casey's person/present/past ??
Beat me with a stick  :smt075  :smt102 .. sounds like nonsense, but then again it was Bobo who explained her " Barrett's"  key purpose for testimony.   



 
Sounds like the long arm of investigating mitigating circumstances has gone past the immediate family and now has reached into the hidey holes that the parental A's have in their past. Maybe the destruction of the perfect family has started. We already know that CA really hates to be confronted with truth, it's got to be killing her to find out that the defense henchmen are beating the bushes regarding their past.
I agree Mizjay
Now maybe Cindy knows how it felt for the Public to watch that video of her " henchmen" digging in the dirt for Caylee the video of Her PI's.  I hope she is tossing and turning every night ~ for what is/could be dug up from the Ant's past ~ that will be Broadcasted to the Entire World in Trial. Her always trying to portray herself to others "not my Family".. We are perfect. Shall be interesting. I wonder if anything that was of Casey's past " If " she had anything on file as a minor. Medical or otherwise will be brought in by the defense?
How far back are they willing to go ? I guess is my question.





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 03:57:16 PM
Thank you all for the updates and comments about the hearing, much appreciated.  I could only catch bits and pieces because of work. 

I just watched the interview Bia$$ did with the media and Kathi B afterwards and I cannot believe how juvenile Bia$$ is......setting ground rules or I am not gonna play - geeeeez just like a child who can't play nice in the sandbox - it is so obvious that Kathi B intimidates the he!! out of him and I love it.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

He was truly livid---and I noted that Jar said he has filed yet another motion this morning and he wouldn't reveal what it was about?


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 04:04:14 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/05/anthony-defense-team-cant-keep.html
WDBO Local News      
Anthony defense team can't keep spending private
By
Marva Hinton
@ May 6, 2010 3:34 PM Permalink | Comments (0)

Casey Anthony's defense team won't be able to keep their spending of public funds private. Judge Belvin Perry turned down that request during a hearing Thursday.
ose Baez argued that if defense spending was made public it would prevent Casey from receiving a fair trial, but Perry disagreed.

He did rule in favor of the defense on several other matters, approving nearly every expert they wanted, including forensic scientist Dr. Henry Lee.

"The work that he has done cannot be replicated or duplicated by someone else at this late stage in this trial," said Perry.

But Perry also made it clear that he will be scrutinizing the billing for every expert the defense brings in to make sure it's a good use of taxpayer money.

"They can bill whatever they want to bill," said Perry. "What they get paid is a horse of a different color."

Perry denied a handful of defense requests, including the hiring of a jury consultant and a cell-phone expert.

The defense has to get approval from the court for its expert witnesses because public money is funding her case. Casey was declared indigent earlier this year.


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 04:04:19 PM
A Promise to Caylee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co8sx5O6SsM


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Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 04:06:54 PM
Nebraska !!!!!!!!! LOLOLOL...

 ::MonkeyEek::  Present and accounted for!  Uh.... what about Nebraska?   ::dogwag::


LOL--when Baez replied that one of his experts was fom there it was funny as it is so far away from Orlando & Judge Perry was hoping to cut costs and get as many local or nearby experts as possible.


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Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 06, 2010, 04:08:46 PM
My guess as to where CA & GA were today ...

1.  visiting friends and family far and wide ... pleading
2.  burning up their e-mail lines ... to family and friends ... pleading
3.  they both got jobs and were at work today ... NOT   ::MonkeyDevil::


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Post by: Blumonkey on May 06, 2010, 04:08:58 PM
The replay of the March 18 hearing on truTV gave a bird's eye view of the difference a judge makes. Judge Perry is fair to each side but will not bend the rules for anyone. This alone favors the prosecution. He is not swayed in the least by Mason, Lyon, or any big name the defense can conjure up. I know he came to this case by action taken by the defense but this could not have worked out better as we seek justice for Caylee. To me, it appears he is on the bench by Divine Appointment. Sometimes things are done with evil motives and God turns it around for the good ! ::MonkeyAngel::

I only got to watch for a while this am but that song 'What a difference a day makes' kept running through my mind, but I was singing Judge instead of day.  Unless you had watched JStrickland and then Judge Perry you could not imagine the difference! I am so impressed with this Judge, he has seen it/done it/been there and Bozo's flim flam is not going to get past him.
Interesting they have spent SO many hours on the mitigation side of this, they KNOW she is going down.  It was so refreshing to see Bozo getting his azz kicked this am.
He even managed to call Mason's bluff with the request for a Jury Selection expert- since he and Mason had worked together so many times, and selected Juries without problem.
I just got back in, so will watch the end of the hearing and post again no doubt!
 
W O, You are so right. Baez showed his hand when he said the mitigation expert was the most important member of the defense team. He knows no matter the make up of the jury, the evidence presented, etc. his client will be found GUILTY. It really is about how much notoriety he can gather for himself as he tries to keep his guilty client off death row.


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Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 04:10:04 PM
**from**


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Post by: Sister on May 06, 2010, 04:15:27 PM
A Promise to Caylee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co8sx5O6SsM

So beautiful, so humbling.
Thank you for sharing this.


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 04:16:01 PM
Linda Kenney Baden Twitter http://twitter.com/kenneybaden

Not one mention of Casey Anthony Hearing today - She is tweeting of Yeardley Love Case  ((what a horrifying tragic story)) 



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Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 04:17:30 PM
IMO, that little temporary blackout/transfer to the outside where we saw Kathi was getting ready, was deliberate ... maybe to insure no leakage of sound ?????  Because, I think they were discussing the newest motion that Jar filed just this morning---perhaps after 9 a.m.  He refused to tell her about it & told her to go look it up in that exit video.    I still say Baez was very shook & livid as they left.  He even pulled the old "Mark Geargos-talk-on-the cellphone-as-you're walking" routine.


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Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 04:23:04 PM
A Promise to Caylee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co8sx5O6SsM

So beautiful, so humbling.
Thank you for sharing this.

I've tears streaming down my face now.  Beautifully done.   [ That was one of my favorite songs to sing when I was little. ]


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 04:25:13 PM
A Promise to Caylee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co8sx5O6SsM

So beautiful, so humbling.
Thank you for sharing this.
Lovely, thank-you  ::MonkeyAngel::           The mystery expert has to be someone in the medical/mental health field, not sure exactly where they are going with this, but it won't be the Flip Wilson/Devil made me do it routine, it will be look what mom did to me routine. I will bet money on this. And I also will bet money on the sexual abuse angle, which if they can make a jury believe this, it will garner sympathy for sure.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 04:26:20 PM
IMO, that little temporary blackout/transfer to the outside where we saw Kathi was getting ready, was deliberate ... maybe to insure no leakage of sound ?????  Because, I think they were discussing the newest motion that Jar filed just this morning---perhaps after 9 a.m.  He refused to tell her about it & told her to go look it up in that exit video.    I still say Baez was very shook & livid as they left.  He even pulled the old "Mark Geargos-talk-on-the cellphone-as-you're walking" routine.
He sure did, didn't he, let's start pretending we are talking on the cell phone  ::MonkeyHaHa::


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Post by: Scatty on May 06, 2010, 04:29:29 PM
IMO, that little temporary blackout/transfer to the outside where we saw Kathi was getting ready, was deliberate ... maybe to insure no leakage of sound ?????  Because, I think they were discussing the newest motion that Jar filed just this morning---perhaps after 9 a.m.  He refused to tell her about it & told her to go look it up in that exit video.    I still say Baez was very shook & livid as they left.  He even pulled the old "Mark Geargos-talk-on-the cellphone-as-you're walking" routine.

Ooh! I soo agree. Baez was so upset he was nearly in tears. But that's still no reason to act like he was 6. What I would really love to see from now on is for Kathi to ignore him and treat Cheney like the lead attorney and ask him any questions she might have. That would really get Bozo's knickers in a twist!!
 :smt064


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 04:36:06 PM
A Promise to Caylee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co8sx5O6SsM

So beautiful, so humbling.
Thank you for sharing this.
Lovely, thank-you  ::MonkeyAngel::           The mystery expert has to be someone in the medical/mental health field, not sure exactly where they are going with this, but it won't be the Flip Wilson/Devil made me do it routine, it will be look what mom did to me routine. I will bet money on this. And I also will bet money on the sexual abuse angle, which if they can make a jury believe this, it will garner sympathy for sure.

I might have missed it....but it is known if the payment for the 'mystery expert' was approved or not?


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Post by: Scatty on May 06, 2010, 04:39:42 PM
A Promise to Caylee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co8sx5O6SsM

So beautiful, so humbling.
Thank you for sharing this.
Lovely, thank-you  ::MonkeyAngel::           The mystery expert has to be someone in the medical/mental health field, not sure exactly where they are going with this, but it won't be the Flip Wilson/Devil made me do it routine, it will be look what mom did to me routine. I will bet money on this. And I also will bet money on the sexual abuse angle, which if they can make a jury believe this, it will garner sympathy for sure.

Hmm. I think so too. Maybe that's why the A's weren't in court today. I think they've been talked to by the mitigation expert and now the groundwork is starting to be laid. I bet they are trying to show that they were somehow to blame by being abusive, unsupportive, whatever...; they're going to now try to show what a bad relationship they have. Although I don't think that particular ploy would work thanks to all the lies and coverups they already spewed forth in support of KC. I think it may be Lee who's being thrown (or diving?) under the bus. I think GA is a little too self-centered and hung up on trying to be the next John Walsh.


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Post by: Wyks on May 06, 2010, 04:45:53 PM
Nebraska !!!!!!!!! LOLOLOL...

 ::MonkeyEek::  Present and accounted for!  Uh.... what about Nebraska?   ::dogwag::


Hi Wyks!  One of the expert witnesses is from Nebraska ... can't remember which one ... or what side they're on ... I was too busy trying to figure out where the expert entomologist for the State was from in Indiana (IU or Purdue?)  Purdue I hope! 

Hi Newfie!   ::HelloKitty:: 

Thanks for 'splainin that!  Overslept today, missed the hearing <boooo, hiss!> and have been pedaling to catch up fast. 

That's likely Tim Huntington then.  He's a bug expert (forensic entomologist) in Nebraska.  I think he's on the wrong side of the fence in this case - for the scream team.  He's probably been around too much formaldehyde or sumpin.  heh.

 ::MonkeyDevil::



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Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 04:57:04 PM
Not sure if this has been posted.

Lyon has been busy with her sister taking about media and human rights.  This is interesting.

Media and Human Rights in America Symposium

Start: Apr 7 2010 - 9:00am
End: Apr 7 2010 - 4:00pm
Body:

The symposium will include four top-notch panels, focusing discussion on how the media impacts human rights in America. The symposium will feature themed sessions concerning justice in journalism; new media and human rights; media and the death penalty and media, race, ethics and justice. The symposium is open to the public. Reservations are required and can be made through the SMU Cinema and Television Department at (removed)


8:30 AM – Registration
Meadows Museum (Entry Hall)
5900 Bishop Boulevard
Dallas, Texas 75205


9:00 AM – Welcome
Meadows Museum (Jones Great Hall)
Featuring:
Rachel Lyon, SMU Cinema & Television
Tom Mayo, Maguire Center for Ethics and Social Responsibility
Mark McPhail, SMU Corporate Communications and Public Affairs

9:15 AM – 10:30 AM: “Media, Race, Ethics and Justice”
Meadows Museum (Jones Hall)
Moderator: Tom Mayo, SMU Dedman School of Law
Professor Mayo teaches courses in the areas of health care law, bioethics, medical-legal humanities, constitutional law, family law, administrative law, and legislation.
Speakers:
David Harris, Houston Institute for Race and Justice at Harvard Law
David J. Harris is the Managing Director of the Charles Hamilton Houston Institute for Race and Justice at Harvard Law School and has widespread experience in civil rights issues.
Kaia Stern, Houston Institute for Race and Justice at Harvard Law
Kaia is the Director of the Pathways Home and Prison Studies Project at Harvard Law School
C. Lee Harrington, University of Miami
Ms. Harrington is a Professor of Sociology, Women's Studies Program Affiliate at the University of Miami and specializes in media studies as well as women and gender media issues.
Mark McPhail: Chair of Corporate Communications at SMU’s Meadows School of the Arts, author of Dr. McPhail is the author of two books, Zen in the Art of Rhetoric: An Inquiry in Coherence, published by the State University of New York Press, and The Rhetoric of Racism Revisited: Reparations or Separation?, published by Rowman and Littlefield.


11:45 AM – 12:15 PM: “Media and the Death Penalty”Meadows Museum (Jones Hall)
Moderator: Rachel Lyon, SMU Cinema & Television
Speakers:
Jeanne Bishop -- Murder Victims Families for Human Rights / Illinois
Andrea Lyon, Author and Associate Dean Clinical Studies, DePaul College of Law. Professor Lyon serves Director of the Center for Justice in Capital Cases at DePaul University College of Law. Professor Lyon has tried over 130 homicide cases, both while in the Public Defender’s office and Lyon is a nationally recognized expert in the field of death penalty defense and a frequent continuing legal education teacher throughout the country.Craig Watkins, Dallas District Attorney
Inaugurated in January of 2007, Craig Watkins is the Criminal District Attorney for Dallas County. He is known for taking the “smart on crime” approach to criminal activity and is a known advocate for civil rights.
Steve Mills: Chicago Tribune – Pulizter Prize winner, Steve Mills joined the Chicago Tribune as a reporter in 1994. For the past 11 years, he has written about the death penalty, miscarriages of justice, police torture and other issues in the criminal justice system. He wrote the November 1999 series, ``The Failure of the Death Penalty in Illinois.'' Mills and Armstrong also wrote the June 2000 series, ``State of Execution: The Death Penalty in Texas.'' Mills, Armstrong and reporter Maurice Possley reported and wrote the December 2000 investigative series, "Executions in America."


12:45 PM – 1:45 PM: Luncheon
Meadows Museum (Gates Room)
Speakers:
Rachel Lyon (SMU CTV) and Mark McPhail, SMU Corporate Communications & Public Affairs (Intro)
Dean (Jose) Bowen, Meadows School of Art (Welcome)
Keynote Speaker:
Rick Halperin, SMU Human Rights Education Program (Keynote)

2:00 PM – 3:30 PM: “New Media and Human Rights in America”
Meadows Museum (Jones Hall)
Moderator: Derek Kompare, SMU Cinema & Television
Confirmed Speakers:
Charles Nesson, Berkman Center for Internet at Harvard Law
Professor Nesson is the Founder and Faculty Co-Director, Berkman Center for Internet & Society. Harvard’s work with internet policy, advocacy and law is world renouned.
Shawn P. Williams, Dallas South News
Shawn Williams is the publisher of Dallas South, a blog that he started in June of 2006. Dallas South works to promote positive images of African-Americans in the media.
Danny Schechter
Schechter's media experience in the major U.S. corporate media is considerable. His career began as the "News Dissector" at Boston radio station WBCN. His work specializes in investigative journalism and producing programming about the interface between human rights, journalism, popular music and society.
Schechter is also the executive editor of www.MediaChannel.org,
for which he is the "blogger-in-chief" and writes a nearly-3000-word daily blog entry on media and society. known as the “news dissector,” Mr. Schechter is a speaker and writer on media issues.
Evan Smith is the CEO and Editor in Chief of The Texas Tribune. He spent nearly 18 years at TEXAS MONTHLY, stepping down in August 2009 as the magazine's president and editor in chief. Previously he served as editor for more than eight years—only the third person to hold that title. On his watch, TEXAS MONTHLY was nominated for sixteen National Magazine Awards, the magazine industry's equivalent of the Pulitzer Prize, and twice was awarded the National Magazine Award for General Excellence. Smith has a master's degree in journalism from the Medill School at Northwestern University.


3:45 PM – 5:0- PM: “Journalism and Human Rights”
Meadows Museum (Jones Hall)
Speakers: Joe Domanick, Associate Director of the John Jay Center on Media, Crime, and Justice at the Justice and Journalism Institute USC Anneberg School. Professor Domanick teaches journalism at the USC Anneberg School for Communication and is an award winning investigative journalist and author. He has had numerous articles featured in publications like the The New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Los Angeles Times Magazine, Los Angeles Herald Examiner, San Francisco Chronicle, and the Washington Journalism Review.
Craig Flournoy, Associate Professor Division of Journalism, SMU Flournoy served at the Dallas Morning News, and has written for the Columbia Journalism Review, Journalism & Mass Communication Educator and the Newspaper Research Journal.
Renee Ferguson, NBC News Chicago: Shorenstein Fellow at Harvard Journalism School. NBC 5 Chicago's Renee Ferguson has been honored with one of the nation's most prestigious broadcast journalism awards, the Alfred I. duPont-Columbia Award, for her UNIT 5 investigative series, Strip Searched at O'Hare. Ferguson is the recipient of seven Chicago Emmy Awards, the DuPont Award, the Gracie Award, the Associated Press Award for Best Investigative Reporting.
Camille Kraeplin: SMU Journalism Professor, teaches Journalism and Human Rights Course, among her many accomplishments.
Sponsor:
“Media and Human Rights in America” is a presentation of the SMU Division of Cinema/Television, with support from Nathan Cummings Foundation, Meadows School of the Arts, Division of Corporate Communications, The Cary M. Maguire Center for Ethics and Public Responsibility and Dallas International Film Festival.


http://dallaspeacecenter.org/node/4892


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Post by: Wyks on May 06, 2010, 05:01:00 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/05/anthony-defense-team-cant-keep.html

<snipped>

But Perry also made it clear that he will be scrutinizing the billing for every expert the defense brings in to make sure it's a good use of taxpayer money.

"They can bill whatever they want to bill," said Perry. "What they get paid is a horse of a different color."

~~~~~

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/zMisc/laughing_horse1.jpg)



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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 05:01:23 PM
A Promise to Caylee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co8sx5O6SsM

So beautiful, so humbling.
Thank you for sharing this.
Lovely, thank-you  ::MonkeyAngel::           The mystery expert has to be someone in the medical/mental health field, not sure exactly where they are going with this, but it won't be the Flip Wilson/Devil made me do it routine, it will be look what mom did to me routine. I will bet money on this. And I also will bet money on the sexual abuse angle, which if they can make a jury believe this, it will garner sympathy for sure.

I might have missed it....but it is known if the payment for the 'mystery expert' was approved or not?
I am not sure about the mystery expert and payment.


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Post by: Wyks on May 06, 2010, 05:03:56 PM
Nebraska !!!!!!!!! LOLOLOL...

 ::MonkeyEek::  Present and accounted for!  Uh.... what about Nebraska?   ::dogwag::


LOL--when Baez replied that one of his experts was fom there it was funny as it is so far away from Orlando & Judge Perry was hoping to cut costs and get as many local or nearby experts as possible.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Thanks Ono!  Would have loved to have seen Judge Perry's face when Baez was explaining that!! 


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Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 05:04:16 PM
Seems like Lyon talked about the case at that conference I posted above. 

DISCUSSING HUMAN RIGHTS IN TEXAS; AYERS BANNED IN MONTANA, I-PAD: What Is It?

<snipped>

So much for media educating the public.

There was a lot of discussion about the outrageous amount of incarceration in this country and in this state. Prisons are a three billion dollar a year business and they keep a lot of people employed—and contained, especially people of color. They are, in the view of these activists, the new slave plantations, institutions that punish the poor and make the rest of us feel superior.

There were some deep if academic insights until Andrea Lyon got to speak about her experiences as a lawyer representing inmates charged with capital crimes. Her big case is one in which every American knows about if only because every media exploited the case to death.

It is the case of Casey Anthony the Florida based mother of a pretty young daughter named Cayles who she is accused of murdering although the evidence is hardly definitive.

Thanks to Nancy Grace on one of the CNN networks, this story became an almost nightly soap opera in which no detail went unemphasized, ad nauseum, and no accusation was disregarded. Her mother was turned into a monster with little mitigation or even counter argument.

Her lawyer, straight outta Chicago, a large, brilliant woman who disdains makeup and calls Gil Scott Heron her favorite poet, has been demonized along with her client with constant bashing by bloggers and journalists who seem to reject the very idea that her client deserves a defense. Most of the media has been hostile too as if she killed the child.

Her association with case has prompted a steady stream of invective residents of the Internet sewer. She is the author of the acclaimed “Angel of Death Row.”

She is suing the State of Florida for funds for the defense which it sounded like she expects to lose before she can even mount it, She compared the experience to the Salem Witch Trial, although it sounded even worse. It is like Alice in Wonderland, “first the verdict and then the trial.”

Hearing all this makes you sick and angry, especially at media people who get caught up in the ratings game that drives the murder porn industry, The sicker the story, the bigger the audience. No wonder Andrea is considered an angel of death row. He has won awards for being among the best representatives of the poor in America. You can see it in her bearing: she takes no shit and can out argue the most demented DA.


http://www.newsdissector.com/blog/2010/04/09/discussing-human-rights-in-texas-ayers-banned-in-montana/


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 05:05:29 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/23461168/detail.html
Judge Allows Casey Funding Records To Remain Open
Hearing Held Thursday At Orange County Courthouse
POSTED: 11:59 am EDT May 5, 2010
UPDATED: 4:41 pm EDT May 6, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
A judge denied a motion from Casey Anthony's lawyers on Thursday to seal all state records indicating how her defense is funded.

In the motion, Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, said their case could be compromised if every invoice that they submit for reimbursement from the state becomes a public record.

Baez said the public disclosure of the invoices could lead to "rampant speculation as to the defense strategy."

"Closure is essential to a fair trial," Baez said. "I can't imagine the floodgates that would open."

Now that Anthony has been declared indigent, she qualifies to be reimbursed with state tax dollars for certain expenses.
Prosecutors argued that since the public is paying for Anthony's defense, "they're entitled to know what they're paying for."

Last week, Judge Belvin Perry said Anthony's money matters are urgent because there are two more hearings scheduled for next week, when the defense is likely to have to bring some of their experts to town.

Perry did rule that some information in the records could be redacted and specific situations may require hearings to determine whether information should be sealed.

The defense needed to have authorization from Perry to begin spending money. The team also needed to know how much will be available.

Perry launched in to an exhaustive examination of the list of experts the state should pay for on behalf of Casey Anthony's defense. Perry whittled down some of the spending.

"If you're only going to have one testify, why do I need two?" Perry said. "No sir, one."

Perry did grant most of the 20 experts the defense asked for. He rejected a $6,000 allocation so the defense could buy and run tests on two Pontiac Sunfires, identical to the one Casey owned.

Many want to know where the money is coming from.
"In general, I think the public probably has a right to know what they're spending taxpayer money on," one resident said.

The hearing was held at the Orange County Courthouse.

Defense attorney Richard Hornsby has experience with similar situations.

"I think it's a fair request, and it's in line with what Judge Perry has already said he would allow them to do," he said.

Anthony is in the Orange County Jail being held on no bond on charges of murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.
Caylee's remains were found in a wooded area off Suburban Drive near the Anthony family home in December 2008.

Anthony maintains a nanny by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee.
Video: Judge Keeps Funding Records Open  http://www.wesh.com/video/23478355/index.html


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 05:07:54 PM
Thanks NorthernRose.   ::MonkeyBike::


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Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 05:13:20 PM
She is still busy pimping her book.  Maybe she really needs to make room in her garage for the car again and needs to get rid of the boxes of books?   ::MonkeyJnBox::   ::MonkeyJnBox:: 

Thursday May 13, 2010
ANDREA LYON
Start: 12:00 pm
End: 1:30 pm
ANDREA LYON, DePaul University law professor, talks about Angel of Death Row:  My Life as a Death Penalty Defense Lawyer, an inside look at what drives her to defend those who seem indefensible—and to win.

http://bookstall.indiebound.com/event/2010/05/07


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 05:13:22 PM
Thanks NorthernRose.   ::MonkeyBike::
Yes thank-you  ::MonkeyCool:: 
She is suing the State of Florida for funds for the defense which it sounded like she expects to lose before she can even mount it, She compared the experience to the Salem Witch Trial, although it sounded even worse. It is like Alice in Wonderland, “first the verdict and then the trial.”  WTH, I just know I'm living in a parallel universe  ::MonkeyHaHa::


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Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 05:20:09 PM
Thanks NorthernRose.   ::MonkeyBike::
Yes thank-you  ::MonkeyCool:: 
She is suing the State of Florida for funds for the defense which it sounded like she expects to lose before she can even mount it, She compared the experience to the Salem Witch Trial, although it sounded even worse. It is like Alice in Wonderland, “first the verdict and then the trial.”  WTH, I just know I'm living in a parallel universe  ::MonkeyHaHa::


For an attorney to speak like this on a active case that has not gone into trial, would that not taint the jury pool?  Or is that their game plan and why they are not in agreement in wanting the jury sequestered?


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 05:24:20 PM
Thanks NorthernRose.   ::MonkeyBike::
Yes thank-you  ::MonkeyCool:: 
She is suing the State of Florida for funds for the defense which it sounded like she expects to lose before she can even mount it, She compared the experience to the Salem Witch Trial, although it sounded even worse. It is like Alice in Wonderland, “first the verdict and then the trial.”  WTH, I just know I'm living in a parallel universe  ::MonkeyHaHa::


For an attorney to speak like this on a active case that has not gone into trial, would that not taint the jury pool?  Or is that their game plan and why they are not in agreement in wanting the jury sequestered?
That could very well be, this is the most confusing and frustrating mess. Taint the jury and delay is their game plan.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 05:25:02 PM
Thanks NorthernRose.   ::MonkeyBike::
Yes thank-you  ::MonkeyCool:: 
She is suing the State of Florida for funds for the defense which it sounded like she expects to lose before she can even mount it, She compared the experience to the Salem Witch Trial, although it sounded even worse. It is like Alice in Wonderland, “first the verdict and then the trial.”  WTH, I just know I'm living in a parallel universe  ::MonkeyHaHa::


You are not alone.I went back and watched Bozo again after the hearing.He really is an azz.   ::MonkeyTongue::


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 05:31:44 PM
Thanks NorthernRose.   ::MonkeyBike::
Yes thank-you  ::MonkeyCool:: 
She is suing the State of Florida for funds for the defense which it sounded like she expects to lose before she can even mount it, She compared the experience to the Salem Witch Trial, although it sounded even worse. It is like Alice in Wonderland, “first the verdict and then the trial.”  WTH, I just know I'm living in a parallel universe  ::MonkeyHaHa::


You are not alone.I went back and watched Bozo again after the hearing.He really is an azz.   ::MonkeyTongue::
An arrogant azz, that will crumble if this goes to trial. You could really tell he was sweating big time, but the look and demeanor on Mason, when the judge said no jury consultant was priceless. You could tell that Mason and Baez were not expecting that response. But that making believe he was on his cell phone when Kathi was interrogating him was a real hoot  ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 05:31:47 PM
05/06/10 HEARING:      http://www.wftv.com/news/23465730/detail.html

Part 1  http://www.wftv.com/video/23473853/index.html
Part 2  http://www.wftv.com/video/23474395/index.html
Part 3  http://www.wftv.com/video/23474629/index.html
Part 4  http://www.wftv.com/video/23475319/index.html
Part 5  http://www.wftv.com/video/23475771/index.html
Part 6  http://www.wftv.com/video/23476081/index.html


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Post by: mizjay on May 06, 2010, 05:31:51 PM
So this Ms. Barrett after talking to family......what's she gonna say, she should be pitied and spared the DP because the entire family hated KC cause she was a liar and a thief.....good luck with that as an excuse for murdering your baby Caylee! ::MonkeyMad::
I guess Seeme that is her position within is to portray Casey as necessary hah. Bobo said that this woman has interviewed all these relatives of Casey's ..from Ohio, Carolina's ... who are these people. Since day one  "no one" from the family but Rick Plesea has ever spoke out. Its been CA/GA/LA and Grandma Shirley. Not one " Friend of Family" has ever been heard of or seen. Even the Neighbors don't want to be involved.  Who are all these " family members" that were interviewed by Barrett to represent Casey's person/present/past ??
Beat me with a stick  :smt075  :smt102 .. sounds like nonsense, but then again it was Bobo who explained her " Barrett's"  key purpose for testimony.   



 
Sounds like the long arm of investigating mitigating circumstances has gone past the immediate family and now has reached into the hidey holes that the parental A's have in their past. Maybe the destruction of the perfect family has started. We already know that CA really hates to be confronted with truth, it's got to be killing her to find out that the defense henchmen are beating the bushes regarding their past.
I agree Mizjay
Now maybe Cindy knows how it felt for the Public to watch that video of her " henchmen" digging in the dirt for Caylee the video of Her PI's.  I hope she is tossing and turning every night ~ for what is/could be dug up from the Ant's past ~ that will be Broadcasted to the Entire World in Trial. Her always trying to portray herself to others "not my Family".. We are perfect. Shall be interesting. I wonder if anything that was of Casey's past " If " she had anything on file as a minor. Medical or otherwise will be brought in by the defense?
How far back are they willing to go ? I guess is my question.




DEENIE I bet they're willing to go way way back until they can come up with a long line of dysfunction that can soften the hideous fact that their client killed her little girl.  The mitigation and Lyon's MO is to humanize the monster. Forget the real victim.  There should be plenty to work with cause we all know G & C didn't wake up the morning after Caylee was gone and turn into conniving deceitful low lifes, they've been trashy schemers and users for a long time.  the a's are going to get pulverized and I will not feel the least bit sorry for them.  Caylee deserved their loyalty in death but what she got was the shaft.


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Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 05:32:12 PM
Thanks NorthernRose.   ::MonkeyBike::
Yes thank-you  ::MonkeyCool:: 
She is suing the State of Florida for funds for the defense which it sounded like she expects to lose before she can even mount it, She compared the experience to the Salem Witch Trial, although it sounded even worse. It is like Alice in Wonderland, “first the verdict and then the trial.”  WTH, I just know I'm living in a parallel universe  ::MonkeyHaHa::


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image181.png)


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 05:34:00 PM
They are going to go back to the time of conception, and every thing that happened between then and now. I'm actually very interested in this, I always have to know what makes a person tick, and I'm prepared for what makes Casey and her family tick.


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 05:37:09 PM
Lyon
I don't know if anyone has listened to speak - she I believe teaching in this video or at a conf.
http://www.youtube.com/v/h9WbYCJOKHI&hl=en_US&fs=1

She is a real piece of work
The entire time she is speaking on how She Pursues the Court "mentally" to Create Doubt and Guilt within Jurors minds. 

5:00 she speaks on How to " Talk the Talk " to Jurors.  Then goes on to say -Jurors may consult a person of the cloth for help within a DP case - she says most Clergy would be in favor to kill everybody * snarky * what is she smokin?
6:50 she claims in a nutshell the general public are idiots - again snarky ( she seems to have high regard for herself - she is above everyone including Judges )
9:00 thru finish she states that Judges do not care about you as counsel, Nor care about the Case, The client, Nor the jury they only care about Voters. More Snarky

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: Her on audio " How she Really Feels"  Wow, I hope she tries pulling this crap with Honorable Judge Perry in the State of Florida ... Professor Sasquatch from Illinois.
the video below is less than 3 mins - with Kathi B reporting. 

http://www.youtube.com/v/ErHWisakMFg&hl=en_US&fs=1


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Post by: mizjay on May 06, 2010, 05:42:15 PM
Lyon
I don't know if anyone has listened to speak - she I believe teaching in this video or at a conf.
http://www.youtube.com/v/h9WbYCJOKHI&hl=en_US&fs=1

She is a real piece of work
The entire time she is speaking on how She Pursues the Court "mentally" to Create Doubt and Guilt within Jurors minds. 

5:00 she speaks on How to " Talk the Talk " to Jurors.  Then goes on to say -Jurors may consult a person of the cloth for help within a DP case - she says most Clergy would be in favor to kill everybody * snarky * what is she smokin?
6:50 she claims in a nutshell the general public are idiots - again snarky ( she seems to have high regard for herself - she is above everyone including Judges )
9:00 thru finish she states that Judges do not care about you as counsel, Nor care about the Case, The client, Nor the jury they only care about Voters. More Snarky

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: Her on audio " How she Really Feels"  Wow, I hope she tries pulling this crap with Honorable Judge Perry in the State of Florida ... Professor Sasquatch from Illinois.
the video below is less than 3 mins - with Kathi B reporting. 

http://www.youtube.com/v/ErHWisakMFg&hl=en_US&fs=1

YIKES!  She's scary.        love your "Professor Sasquatch"   ::MonkeyDevil::


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 05:45:39 PM
They are going to go back to the time of conception, and every thing that happened between then and now. I'm actually very interested in this, I always have to know what makes a person tick, and I'm prepared for what makes Casey and her family tick.

I think it will be very interesting.

Brandi,OMG....   ::MonkeyDevil:: That is scary.


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 05:47:15 PM
MizJay I agree with you again. Brandi " Your being toooo Nice to Sasquatch" Love the ART though.  She definitely lives in her own little world.

We Wont Have to Guess  ::MonkeyEek:: when its Lunch time in the Court Room. 

http://www.youtube.com/v/Pr3sBks5o_8&hl=en_US&fs=1



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Post by: Sister on May 06, 2010, 05:54:00 PM
Lyon
I don't know if anyone has listened to speak - she I believe teaching in this video or at a conf.
http://www.youtube.com/v/h9WbYCJOKHI&hl=en_US&fs=1

She is a real piece of work
The entire time she is speaking on how She Pursues the Court "mentally" to Create Doubt and Guilt within Jurors minds. 

5:00 she speaks on How to " Talk the Talk " to Jurors.  Then goes on to say -Jurors may consult a person of the cloth for help within a DP case - she says most Clergy would be in favor to kill everybody * snarky * what is she smokin?
6:50 she claims in a nutshell the general public are idiots - again snarky ( she seems to have high regard for herself - she is above everyone including Judges )
9:00 thru finish she states that Judges do not care about you as counsel, Nor care about the Case, The client, Nor the jury they only care about Voters. More Snarky

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: Her on audio " How she Really Feels"  Wow, I hope she tries pulling this crap with Honorable Judge Perry in the State of Florida ... Professor Sasquatch from Illinois.
the video below is less than 3 mins - with Kathi B reporting. 

http://www.youtube.com/v/ErHWisakMFg&hl=en_US&fs=1

Good grief, she is a legend in her own mind.  Will not cover over well with Judge Perry.


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 06:01:00 PM
From a Chicago Fox News site - Opinion written by a local person from " Chicago" on Lyon
http://community.myfoxchicago.com/whatawaste/blog/2010/02/18/andrea_lyon_says_female_state_attys_have_a_strap-on_dildos

((There is several mentions of the D word ..evidently LYON said it ))
----snipped:
Andrea Lyon says "female state attys have a strap-on dildos"

Wednesday, Feb 17th 10:14 pm CST

    Andrea Lyon is one of the Lawyers for Casey Anthony.
 
    I am having a hard time understanding why DePaul University is allowing their employees to defend a child murder while on "company time".  Not only allowing Andrea Lyon to take leave for a defendant but paying her salary and paying for a teacher to do her duties while she is out of state.  Allowing her to profit from the murder by writing books and in some cases recieving the book rights to the murder.  I realize that the son of Sam law does not apply to the attorney.... yet....but as a Christian how can anyone want or need to make money off a murder victim.
     Because none of the work that needs to be done on these cases will be done at night... hearing.... press releases...depos.  And the fact that Depaul is allowing yet a second paid employee to represent Casey Anthony while still drawing a salary only proves to me that DePaul is in agreement with Lyon.... throw everyone under the bus and screw the truth.
    DePaul University does have a copy of her repulsive speech.  And still allows her to teach students. Wonder if DePaul also has no respect for judges and juries.
    Andrea Lyon calls judges "ugly"
    Makes me think the DePaul is thumbing their noses at the Judical system. By standing behind a teacher that teaches her students to be low life - decieving - lying snakes.
    I would love to share with anyone in Chicigao area the videos of Andrea Lyon during a seminar saying that one female prosecutor was wearing a strapon dildo.
She calls Jurors stupid and killers.
She says it does not matter if what you - the defense atty - says in a court of law is  truthful... only that it can be believed as reasonable doubt.  She calls for the defense Lawyers to lie and it does not matter that an innocent person is ruined by the lies..... only that one juror finds doubt.... very interesting listening....
Listen to what she says about how to defend a rapist.....guess rape is not serious to her.
---
The yt files can be found by using the link above
I wonder if she LYON has a fan club ........errrr Doh


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 06:02:17 PM

Thanks newfie...........they do come in handy a LOT!  LOL  good to see you back!!

I wonder who is paying BOZO. I can't believe he is doing this pro bono, when I look at his cases they are mostly small time stuff which doesn't equal a lot of money (however according to Hornsby he has raised his fees considerably since he got FAMOUS) let me get my tongue out of my cheek!   and to the best of my recollection I can't remember him ever stating he was working pro bono. Also who is paying her lawyer in ZFG's case...Kassen (sic)

I don't care what they say ... I still think there is some under the radar dealing.  How in the world is he paying his personal expenses and his office expenses when working on this case 24/7 for two years with hardly any pay?  I don't know what his wife does - but I wouldn't think she'd be financially supporting the home and his law office this whole time out of her own pocket.

Newfie...I agree....he is getting money from someplace..........perhaps an advance on a book.....I doubt his wife is funding not only the case, but the practice.   I loved the way Kathi kept pointing out that they had already spent $340,000........and it has not ALL been accounted for. But I have a feeling his spending days are over.  I think JP is gonna keep a very tight rein on his spending...............BOZO probably will not learn until an invoice he turns in is denied. ::MonkeyDevil::


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 06:02:58 PM
The replay of the March 18 hearing on truTV gave a bird's eye view of the difference a judge makes. Judge Perry is fair to each side but will not bend the rules for anyone. This alone favors the prosecution. He is not swayed in the least by Mason, Lyon, or any big name the defense can conjure up. I know he came to this case by action taken by the defense but this could not have worked out better as we seek justice for Caylee. To me, it appears he is on the bench by Divine Appointment. Sometimes things are done with evil motives and God turns it around for the good ! ::MonkeyAngel::
Blu, I couldn't agree with you more as in -- be careful what you ask for!!!!!
We ask for Justice for Caylee and I see it coming down the road!

Sister................you are so RIGHT!!


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Post by: Curly on May 06, 2010, 06:06:27 PM
Thanks for all the comments and links, Monkeys.
Cindy and George Marie AWOL from court?  Very suspicious. If the duhfense is going the abuse route, I'll bet that is not sitting well with the A's.

Casey doesn't enjoy her time in court as far as I'm concerned. I really think she feels it's a nuisance and interrupts her jail routine which she's very used to. She likes to sleep the day away and being that this is not the first time they're asking for her to be excused, it makes a lot of sense to me.
Se probably won't even want to show up for her pesky little murder trial.

Can't wait to watch the hearing. Sounds like it was really good and Bozo was foiled again.
They're probably trying to figure out a way to get Judge Berry removed.


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 06:08:14 PM
So this Ms. Barrett after talking to family......what's she gonna say, she should be pitied and spared the DP because the entire family hated KC cause she was a liar and a thief.....good luck with that as an excuse for murdering your baby Caylee! ::MonkeyMad::
I guess Seeme that is her position within is to portray Casey as necessary hah. Bobo said that this woman has interviewed all these relatives of Casey's ..from Ohio, Carolina's ... who are these people. Since day one  "no one" from the family but Rick Plesea has ever spoke out. Its been CA/GA/LA and Grandma Shirley. Not one " Friend of Family" has ever been heard of or seen. Even the Neighbors don't want to be involved.  Who are all these " family members" that were interviewed by Barrett to represent Casey's person/present/past ??
Beat me with a stick  :smt075  :smt102 .. sounds like nonsense, but then again it was Bobo who explained her " Barrett's"  key purpose for testimony.  

JMO, but with so much emphasis on Ms. Barrett it seems clear to me that HER DUHfence team fully expect her to be convicted of MURDER...........Ms. Barrett and her input will be for the sentencing phase, to try to keep her from getting the DP.....only because they don't beleive in the DP....it has nothing to do with Caylee or KC for them.....it the DP..............Damn, if I felt I was that close to getting the death penalty I would be demanding a plea. These attorneys are only out for their own glory. They KNOW she is going to be convicted..but I bet that's not what they are telling her


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 06:08:19 PM
They are going to go back to the time of conception, and every thing that happened between then and now. I'm actually very interested in this, I always have to know what makes a person tick, and I'm prepared for what makes Casey and her family tick.

I think it will be very interesting.

Brandi,OMG....   ::MonkeyDevil:: That is scary.
OMG  ::MonkeyLaugh:: And it looks like she has been on a crash diet  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 06:09:41 PM
So this Ms. Barrett after talking to family......what's she gonna say, she should be pitied and spared the DP because the entire family hated KC cause she was a liar and a thief.....good luck with that as an excuse for murdering your baby Caylee! ::MonkeyMad::
I guess Seeme that is her position within is to portray Casey as necessary hah. Bobo said that this woman has interviewed all these relatives of Casey's ..from Ohio, Carolina's ... who are these people. Since day one  "no one" from the family but Rick Plesea has ever spoke out. Its been CA/GA/LA and Grandma Shirley. Not one " Friend of Family" has ever been heard of or seen. Even the Neighbors don't want to be involved.  Who are all these " family members" that were interviewed by Barrett to represent Casey's person/present/past ??
Beat me with a stick  :smt075  :smt102 .. sounds like nonsense, but then again it was Bobo who explained her " Barrett's"  key purpose for testimony.   



 
Sounds like the long arm of investigating mitigating circumstances has gone past the immediate family and now has reached into the hidey holes that the parental A's have in their past. Maybe the destruction of the perfect family has started. We already know that CA really hates to be confronted with truth, it's got to be killing her to find out that the defense henchmen are beating the bushes regarding their past.

 ::rhino:: ::rhino::


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Post by: Sister on May 06, 2010, 06:14:56 PM
So this Ms. Barrett after talking to family......what's she gonna say, she should be pitied and spared the DP because the entire family hated KC cause she was a liar and a thief.....good luck with that as an excuse for murdering your baby Caylee! ::MonkeyMad::
I guess Seeme that is her position within is to portray Casey as necessary hah. Bobo said that this woman has interviewed all these relatives of Casey's ..from Ohio, Carolina's ... who are these people. Since day one  "no one" from the family but Rick Plesea has ever spoke out. Its been CA/GA/LA and Grandma Shirley. Not one " Friend of Family" has ever been heard of or seen. Even the Neighbors don't want to be involved.  Who are all these " family members" that were interviewed by Barrett to represent Casey's person/present/past ??
Beat me with a stick  :smt075  :smt102 .. sounds like nonsense, but then again it was Bobo who explained her " Barrett's"  key purpose for testimony.  

JMO, but with so much emphasis on Ms. Barrett it seems clear to me that HER DUHfence team fully expect her to be convicted of MURDER...........Ms. Barrett and her input will be for the sentencing phase, to try to keep her from getting the DP.....only because they don't beleive in the DP....it has nothing to do with Caylee or KC for them.....it the DP..............Damn, if I felt I was that close to getting the death penalty I would be demanding a plea. These attorneys are only out for their own glory. They KNOW she is going to be convicted..but I bet that's not what they are telling her
Sunny, guilty or innocent -- I wouldn't want to miss a minute.  I can't understand why she thinks it is so unimportant, even to herself.  If guilty, I would make sure my attorneys worked their butts off and if innocent, I would make sure no stone was left unturned.  Her not caring even about herself makes me nod my head.  Unless, of course, they have told her no matter how this trial turns out, she will get to appeal.  Lord, you would think she would want to get out of jail.  But, maybe not being around her mother is reward enough.
On another note, I found her jailhouse "bling" so attractive today :>)


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Post by: Sassycat on May 06, 2010, 06:15:44 PM
A Promise to Caylee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co8sx5O6SsM

Thanks Sunny.     Justice for Caylee!   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sister on May 06, 2010, 06:18:53 PM
Thanks NorthernRose.   ::MonkeyBike::
Yes thank-you  ::MonkeyCool:: 
She is suing the State of Florida for funds for the defense which it sounded like she expects to lose before she can even mount it, She compared the experience to the Salem Witch Trial, although it sounded even worse. It is like Alice in Wonderland, “first the verdict and then the trial.”  WTH, I just know I'm living in a parallel universe  ::MonkeyHaHa::


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image181.png)

Brandi, she never looked this good even in her legendary mind.
 ::piggy::


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Post by: Gypsy DD on May 06, 2010, 06:23:12 PM
I wonder is the expert Baez had to talk about in camera is someone who's area of expertise is sexual abuse??
hmmmmmmmmm ::MonkeyCool::
Bingo, I will bet money on it. Sure would love to know where George and Cindy were today.

I agree and wonder why the As were a no show today.

I frankly think they're miffed about the no-nosense persona of His Honor----they're rebellious geriatric juvenile delinquents and won't be there unless it's absolutely necessary,imo.   

BBM
LMAO..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 06:23:30 PM
So this Ms. Barrett after talking to family......what's she gonna say, she should be pitied and spared the DP because the entire family hated KC cause she was a liar and a thief.....good luck with that as an excuse for murdering your baby Caylee! ::MonkeyMad::
I guess Seeme that is her position within is to portray Casey as necessary hah. Bobo said that this woman has interviewed all these relatives of Casey's ..from Ohio, Carolina's ... who are these people. Since day one  "no one" from the family but Rick Plesea has ever spoke out. Its been CA/GA/LA and Grandma Shirley. Not one " Friend of Family" has ever been heard of or seen. Even the Neighbors don't want to be involved.  Who are all these " family members" that were interviewed by Barrett to represent Casey's person/present/past ??
Beat me with a stick  :smt075  :smt102 .. sounds like nonsense, but then again it was Bobo who explained her " Barrett's"  key purpose for testimony.  

JMO, but with so much emphasis on Ms. Barrett it seems clear to me that HER DUHfence team fully expect her to be convicted of MURDER...........Ms. Barrett and her input will be for the sentencing phase, to try to keep her from getting the DP.....only because they don't beleive in the DP....it has nothing to do with Caylee or KC for them.....it the DP..............Damn, if I felt I was that close to getting the death penalty I would be demanding a plea. These attorneys are only out for their own glory. They KNOW she is going to be convicted..but I bet that's not what they are telling her
Honestly what is Casey waiting for a "White Horse & Carriage with Bozo " Her Prince " Why not plea now  - Watch they will do it * Plea  the day before  " cut off" - that all discovery has to be submitted. To throw everything backwards again. 

*Judge Perry already stated his Horse theory  ::MonkeyWink:: Bobo can ask for whatever he wants....doesn't necessarily mean it applies. Today when he said  "BahYice" was Great.


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Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 06:26:10 PM
Thanks NorthernRose.   ::MonkeyBike::
Yes thank-you  ::MonkeyCool:: 
She is suing the State of Florida for funds for the defense which it sounded like she expects to lose before she can even mount it, She compared the experience to the Salem Witch Trial, although it sounded even worse. It is like Alice in Wonderland, “first the verdict and then the trial.”  WTH, I just know I'm living in a parallel universe  ::MonkeyHaHa::


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image181.png)

Brandi, she never looked this good even in her legendary mind.
 ::piggy::

Well, when did Linda Kenney Baden look this good? LOL

(http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/610486444/linda_alone_3_bigger.JPG)

That's her twitter picture! http://twitter.com/kenneybaden

 ::MonkeyEek::


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 06:27:23 PM
A Promise to Caylee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co8sx5O6SsM

So beautiful, so humbling.
Thank you for sharing this.

Sister you are very welcome....I really think this is one of the top ones I have seen...


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Post by: monkalicious on May 06, 2010, 06:28:34 PM
What a big baby Bobo is.  If you don't play with my rules I am going to go walk way and pout.    ::MonkeyJnBox::    ::MonkeyJnBox::     ::MonkeyJnBox::    ::MonkeyJnBox::

http://www.wftv.com/video/23475978/index.html
Northern Rose, that is exactly what I thought.  What a petulant brat he is.  He can't really think this behavior makes him look good, does he?  I think Ol' Moonshine Mason Jar is massively embarrassed by him.  Serves him right.
They are both such donkeys.


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 06:28:59 PM
A Promise to Caylee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co8sx5O6SsM

So beautiful, so humbling.
Thank you for sharing this.

I've tears streaming down my face now.  Beautifully done.   [ That was one of my favorite songs to sing when I was little. ]

I am so glad you liked it....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 06:32:37 PM
A Promise to Caylee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co8sx5O6SsM

So beautiful, so humbling.
Thank you for sharing this.

I've tears streaming down my face now.  Beautifully done.   [ That was one of my favorite songs to sing when I was little. ]

I am so glad you liked it....
It is very Beautiful - I lovely tribute to Caylee


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 06:37:19 PM
Brandi I thought that photo of LKB was fake and that the twitter was fake - It is " her" twitter - the picture matches her Bio and written media on the Huffington Post.
I don't know who she is kidding ..she does not look like that photo. noooo Maybe 20 yrs ago.
I guess if it makes her Smile ..that's what matters. 




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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 06:39:00 PM
Seems like Lyon talked about the case at that conference I posted above. 

DISCUSSING HUMAN RIGHTS IN TEXAS; AYERS BANNED IN MONTANA, I-PAD: What Is It?

<snipped>

So much for media educating the public.

There was a lot of discussion about the outrageous amount of incarceration in this country and in this state. Prisons are a three billion dollar a year business and they keep a lot of people employed—and contained, especially people of color. They are, in the view of these activists, the new slave plantations, institutions that punish the poor and make the rest of us feel superior.

There were some deep if academic insights until Andrea Lyon got to speak about her experiences as a lawyer representing inmates charged with capital crimes. Her big case is one in which every American knows about if only because every media exploited the case to death.

It is the case of Casey Anthony the Florida based mother of a pretty young daughter named Cayles who she is accused of murdering although the evidence is hardly definitive.

Thanks to Nancy Grace on one of the CNN networks, this story became an almost nightly soap opera in which no detail went unemphasized, ad nauseum, and no accusation was disregarded. Her mother was turned into a monster with little mitigation or even counter argument.

Her lawyer, straight outta Chicago, a large, brilliant woman who disdains makeup and calls Gil Scott Heron her favorite poet, has been demonized along with her client with constant bashing by bloggers and journalists who seem to reject the very idea that her client deserves a defense. Most of the media has been hostile too as if she killed the child.

Her association with case has prompted a steady stream of invective residents of the Internet sewer. She is the author of the acclaimed “Angel of Death Row.”

She is suing the State of Florida for funds for the defense which it sounded like she expects to lose before she can even mount it, She compared the experience to the Salem Witch Trial, although it sounded even worse. It is like Alice in Wonderland, “first the verdict and then the trial.”

Hearing all this makes you sick and angry, especially at media people who get caught up in the ratings game that drives the murder porn industry, The sicker the story, the bigger the audience. No wonder Andrea is considered an angel of death row. He has won awards for being among the best representatives of the poor in America. You can see it in her bearing: she takes no shit and can out argue the most demented DA.


http://www.newsdissector.com/blog/2010/04/09/discussing-human-rights-in-texas-ayers-banned-in-montana/

NR...thanks for posting the articles............ she is suing the State of Fl for funds for the defense???   WTF is that supposed to me....suing......what a crock of crap


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Post by: Love2Read on May 06, 2010, 06:40:03 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/05/anthony-defense-team-cant-keep.html

<snipped>

But Perry also made it clear that he will be scrutinizing the billing for every expert the defense brings in to make sure it's a good use of taxpayer money.

"They can bill whatever they want to bill," said Perry. "What they get paid is a horse of a different color."

~~~~~

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/zMisc/laughing_horse1.jpg)



 ::MonkeyJnBox::    I love Judge Perry more than ever for that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 06:45:42 PM
Brandi I thought that photo of LKB was fake and that the twitter was fake - It is " her" twitter - the picture matches her Bio and written media on the Huffington Post.
I don't know who she is kidding ..she does not look like that photo. noooo Maybe 20 yrs ago.
I guess if it makes her Smile ..that's what matters. 


Kind of misleading to post an old photo like that. That's all I meant.

*shrug*


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 06:47:03 PM
So this Ms. Barrett after talking to family......what's she gonna say, she should be pitied and spared the DP because the entire family hated KC cause she was a liar and a thief.....good luck with that as an excuse for murdering your baby Caylee! ::MonkeyMad::
I guess Seeme that is her position within is to portray Casey as necessary hah. Bobo said that this woman has interviewed all these relatives of Casey's ..from Ohio, Carolina's ... who are these people. Since day one  "no one" from the family but Rick Plesea has ever spoke out. Its been CA/GA/LA and Grandma Shirley. Not one " Friend of Family" has ever been heard of or seen. Even the Neighbors don't want to be involved.  Who are all these " family members" that were interviewed by Barrett to represent Casey's person/present/past ??
Beat me with a stick  :smt075  :smt102 .. sounds like nonsense, but then again it was Bobo who explained her " Barrett's"  key purpose for testimony.  

JMO, but with so much emphasis on Ms. Barrett it seems clear to me that HER DUHfence team fully expect her to be convicted of MURDER...........Ms. Barrett and her input will be for the sentencing phase, to try to keep her from getting the DP.....only because they don't beleive in the DP....it has nothing to do with Caylee or KC for them.....it the DP..............Damn, if I felt I was that close to getting the death penalty I would be demanding a plea. These attorneys are only out for their own glory. They KNOW she is going to be convicted..but I bet that's not what they are telling her
Sunny, guilty or innocent -- I wouldn't want to miss a minute.  I can't understand why she thinks it is so unimportant, even to herself.  If guilty, I would make sure my attorneys worked their butts off and if innocent, I would make sure no stone was left unturned.  Her not caring even about herself makes me nod my head.  Unless, of course, they have told her no matter how this trial turns out, she will get to appeal.  Lord, you would think she would want to get out of jail.  But, maybe not being around her mother is reward enough.
On another note, I found her jailhouse "bling" so attractive today :>)

I really doubt it was her idea not to be in court....she loves the attention........and yes I tool loved that clank clank...errrrr bling bling ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 06:48:42 PM
Thanks NorthernRose.   ::MonkeyBike::
Yes thank-you  ::MonkeyCool:: 
She is suing the State of Florida for funds for the defense which it sounded like she expects to lose before she can even mount it, She compared the experience to the Salem Witch Trial, although it sounded even worse. It is like Alice in Wonderland, “first the verdict and then the trial.”  WTH, I just know I'm living in a parallel universe  ::MonkeyHaHa::


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image181.png)

Brandi, she never looked this good even in her legendary mind.
 ::piggy::

Well, when did Linda Kenney Baden look this good? LOL

(http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/610486444/linda_alone_3_bigger.JPG)

That's her twitter picture! http://twitter.com/kenneybaden

 ::MonkeyEek::

20, 30 years ago and a lot of doctoring of the photo


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Post by: monkalicious on May 06, 2010, 06:50:29 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/05/anthony-defense-team-cant-keep.html

<snipped>

But Perry also made it clear that he will be scrutinizing the billing for every expert the defense brings in to make sure it's a good use of taxpayer money.

"They can bill whatever they want to bill," said Perry. "What they get paid is a horse of a different color."

~~~~~

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/zMisc/laughing_horse1.jpg)


Oh, Wyks---Talk about a horse laugh...
 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 06:51:30 PM
Brandi I thought that photo of LKB was fake and that the twitter was fake - It is " her" twitter - the picture matches her Bio and written media on the Huffington Post.
I don't know who she is kidding ..she does not look like that photo. noooo Maybe 20 yrs ago.
I guess if it makes her Smile ..that's what matters. 


Kind of misleading to post an old photo like that. That's all I meant.

*shrug*

It sure is misleading Brandi..but that might be how she still sees herself........... the mirror lies ::MonkeyDevil::


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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 06:53:07 PM
Sorry for the O/T
Lots of people will be reading in Caylee's Cage today

Update on Recall of Children's Tylenol and related Medications - ( I will post in recall cage too)
http://www.wpxi.com/news/23479431/detail.html

Updated: 6:38 pm EDT May 6, 2010
PITTSBURGH -- Investigators found thick dust and grime covering equipment at the Pennsylvania facility used to manufacture more than 40 infant and children's medications that were recalled earlier this week. A report by the Food and Drug Administration found the McNeil Consumer Healthcare plant in Fort Washington apparently wasn't checking for bacteria, storing materials safely or training employees properly. It said general quality control was nonexistent.  McNeil Consumer Healthcare, a division of Johnson and Johnson, issued the voluntary recall in the United States and 11 other countries after consulting with the FDA. The recall involves children's versions of Tylenol, Tylenol Plus, Motrin, Zyrtec and Benadryl, because they don't meet quality standards. Link to all recalled Medicine: http://www.mcneilproductrecall.com/

How does this happen?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sister on May 06, 2010, 07:00:26 PM
Thanks NorthernRose.   ::MonkeyBike::
Yes thank-you  ::MonkeyCool:: 
She is suing the State of Florida for funds for the defense which it sounded like she expects to lose before she can even mount it, She compared the experience to the Salem Witch Trial, although it sounded even worse. It is like Alice in Wonderland, “first the verdict and then the trial.”  WTH, I just know I'm living in a parallel universe  ::MonkeyHaHa::


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image181.png)

Brandi, she never looked this good even in her legendary mind.
 ::piggy::

Well, when did Linda Kenney Baden look this good? LOL

(http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/610486444/linda_alone_3_bigger.JPG)

That's her twitter picture! http://twitter.com/kenneybaden

 ::MonkeyEek::

Oh Lordy, how funny!  Brandi you are so talented, making the lyon lady look so sweet!  I know if I send you my pix I can get rid of my double chin, fuzzy hair (you'll smooth it for me won't you?) and any other natural flaws I definitely have.  Then instead of my real face, I could just put the one you can fix for me in front of my face. (Seriously, I wonder why people do that?  Makes them feel good I guess.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 07:05:21 PM
LOL, Sister!

Your wish is my command.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 07:12:22 PM
Brandi I thought that photo of LKB was fake and that the twitter was fake - It is " her" twitter - the picture matches her Bio and written media on the Huffington Post.
I don't know who she is kidding ..she does not look like that photo. noooo Maybe 20 yrs ago.
I guess if it makes her Smile ..that's what matters. 


Kind of misleading to post an old photo like that. That's all I meant.

*shrug*

No no no ..Brandi I was overtly trying to be Nice * of her after all this Lyonese talk  that women in Law are a joke with their lies/deceptions etc...Omg No shrugs from you ...see what happens when I do not follow my instincts. I was going to write " She must be Disillusion" That photo is a fraction of her true self ..  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Please No Shrugs  ITA it is misleading........ ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 07:16:25 PM
Casey Anthony: What kind of day was it for Casey Anthony’s defense team?

What kind of day was it for Casey Anthony’s defense?

WFTV-Channel 9 listed setbacks today in a hearing on expenses for the indigent defendant:

***Her attorneys asked that she not have to attend hearings. “Casey Anthony doesn’t like people criticizing her appearance or actions, so she asked to stay in jail during future hearings,” WFTV’s Kathi Belich said. But Chief Judge Belvin Perry said she would have to attend most of them, saying he didn’t want to give her grounds for an appeal.

***The defense wanted to keep its experts’ names secret, but Perry “made defense attorney Jose Baez name names,” Belich said.

***The defense wanted to buy two cars — with taxpayer money for $6,000 — to conduct air tests; Perry denied the request.

Why that request? ”While it may sound like a silly idea, it gives you a sense of how closely  the defense wants to challenge the so-called sniff test showing the odor in the car of Casey’s was from decomposition,” WESH-Channel 2’s Bob Kealing said.


Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

Perry denied the defense team’s request to seal records about how her attorneys will spend taxpayer money. Perry said a blanket sealing of the information wouldn’t be appropriate.

“This is not a total blow to Casey Anthony’s defense team,” WESH’s Jeff Lennox said. “The judge says if they’re worried about any information that may be released in the near future, they can go ahead and deal with it on a case-by-case basis with the court.”

And the day was hardly a wash for the defense.

WOFL-Channel 35’s Holly Bristow highlighted that Perry allowed the defense to keep some out-of-state experts, such as Dr. Henry Lee. “In the end the judge approved 16 of the 19 requests the defense made, but he flat out denied spending state funds for a jury expert,” Bristow reported.

What of the overall expenses?

“We didn’t find out an exact number for how much money Casey’s defense will cost taxpayers, but we do expect to get a better idea in an order from Judge Perry,” WESH’s Kealing said.

What kind of day was it?

WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer offered this analysis: “The judge is not going to send the defense to court in a Rolls-Royce. He’ll send them to court in a compact.”

Sheaffer’s said Perry’s rulings “are ensuring the integrity of the system, they’re ensuring that the taxpayers’ money is spent wisely.”


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/05/casey-anthony-what-kind-of-day-was-it-for-casey-anthonys-defense-team.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29&utm_content=Google+International


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Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 07:18:51 PM
IMO, that little temporary blackout/transfer to the outside where we saw Kathi was getting ready, was deliberate ... maybe to insure no leakage of sound ?????  Because, I think they were discussing the newest motion that Jar filed just this morning---perhaps after 9 a.m.  He refused to tell her about it & told her to go look it up in that exit video.    I still say Baez was very shook & livid as they left.  He even pulled the old "Mark Geargos-talk-on-the cellphone-as-you're walking" routine.
He sure did, didn't he, let's start pretending we are talking on the cell phone  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   Can't fool us---we're old hands at this!


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Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 07:19:32 PM
Why the Judge in the Casey Anthony Trial Was Right to Recuse Himself Due to His Remarks to a Blogger
By ANITA RAMASASTRY
 
Thursday, May 6, 2010

Last month, Judge Stan Strickland recused himself from presiding over the Florida state criminal trial of Casey Anthony. As readers are likely aware, Casey Anthony is charged with killing her two-year-old daughter, Caylee -- whose remains were found near the family home in December 2008. The controversial trial is set to begin sometime next year.

Judge Strickland's recusal was prompted by a motion by Casey's defense attorney, Jose Baez. The motion took issue with the judge's brief remarks to, and about, blogger David Knechel, aka "David Marinade," who is covering the trial.

As it turns out, the judge's comments were minimal and probably fairly innocuous – but given the nature of the blogosphere and the low threshold set by Florida's recusal standard, the judge likely made the right decision in stepping down.

This is just one example of the ways in which judges and lawyers are currently grappling with the role that technology and social networking should play in their work and in their lives.  As I explained in a prior column, Florida also was in the spotlight on such issues when it told judges that they could not ethically have lawyers as Facebook friends. 

The Casey Anthony trial blogger incident is yet another example of the kinds of new ethical dilemmas that are arising in this area.

The Judge and the Blogger

In his recusal decision, Judge Strickland noted that he had begun reading blogs about the Casey Anthony case in order to help him decide whether he should grant the defense's change-of-venue motion.  The defense contends that the trial should be moved out of Orlando because of the excessive and -- the defense says -- prejudicial media coverage there. 

The judge's decision to read the blogs is, in itself, potentially disturbing, unless all counsel consented to it.  Judges are not supposed to do outside research, beyond the submissions of attorneys on a particular question.  That's because each side is entitled to know about all the materials the judge has considered in making his decision, so that each side can make a fully-informed and effective argument to the judge regarding the weight and relevance (or lack thereof) of those materials.  (Counsel could properly submit screen-shots of blogs' webpages in support of a change-of-venue motion, however, since then each side would know exactly what materials the judge had seen and would have the ability to address them.)   

Defense attorney Baez alleged that Judge Strickland also called blogger Knechel to inquire about his health, and that the judge did not disclose this apparently personal relationship with Knechel to the defense. (Note: This alleged phone call was not discussed in the Judge's recusal order and has not been further confirmed). Baez also alleged that Judge Strickland recognized Knechel at a court hearing, summoned him to the bench, and spoke to him.

The judge conceded that he did talk to the blogger in court.  Indeed, he could hardly have denied it, as there was a TV camera rolling, microphones were on, and the conversation took place in front of the attorneys.  Part of the conversation was caught on audio; Knechel says that people are reading his blog because he does a "good job, very simple."  Judge Strickland remarks that Knechel had "admonished and frequently chastised those who came onto his blog for the sole purpose of bashing the defendant and her family."   He also thanks Knechel for being "fair and civilized." 

The defense disagreed with the blog's fairness and pointed out that, in fact, Knechel has posted remarks such as "Casey Anthony must die!" "Caylee's murder: Premeditated and pretty stupid too" and "Guilty as charged" on his blog.  But perhaps those comments were not on the blog on the days when the judge visited it, or perhaps the judge did not consider those comments to be in the realm of those he considered to be "bashing" the defendant and her family, as opposed to simply expressing an opinion on the case. 

Judicial Ethics and the Blogosphere:  Did Judge Strickland Violate Florida Ethics Rules?

Did Judge Strickland violate Florida's judicial ethics rules by communicating with the blogger in court ? 

Canon 3 of the Florida Judicial Code of Ethics states that a judge shall perform the duties of judicial office impartially and diligently.  Even the appearance of partiality or favoritism is a problem:  Judges need to tread lightly to avoid perceived conflicts or partisan views.   

Moreover, in Florida, a judge is required to recuse himself or herself from a trial if the recusal motion has a legally-sufficient basis.  Here, moreover, "legally-sufficient" has been interpreted to mean that the motion by the party seeking recusal demonstrates a good-faith belief that that party is not going a receive a fair trial. 

As commentators have noted, Florida has thus set a low threshold for recusal – perhaps too low.  Judge Strickland reportedly has a reputation for being competent and fair.   Moreover, one could argue that Judge Strickland's comments were brief and that their content – allegedly sending a get-well wish, and complimenting Knechel's impartiality -- was relatively innocuous.  The judge himself described the content of his words as "unremarkable," and noted that they were uttered in open court for all to hear. 

Still, blogs do often indicate a viewpoint – and surely, the judge would have been better off remaining silent, rather than indicating any preference or opinion at all about a  particular blog or blogger.

Ironically, Judges Themselves May Ethically Blog Under Some Circumstances

Oddly enough, in the future Judge Strickland himself might be able to become a blogger, if he so chooses.  Florida has not yet ruled on the issue, but other states are permitting their judges to blog.  

For instance, in November 2009, the State of Washington published an ethics opinion to this effect. The Washington Judicial Ethics Advisory Committee noted that "[t]he Code of Judicial Conduct does not specifically prohibit a judge from blogging on the Internet," but it also added a word of caution: 

Even though a judicial officer may post a blog on the internet, caution should be exercised as to how that blog is used and comments responded to in order to make sure that the judicial officer's impartiality is not called into question or the action does not impair the judicial officer's ability to decide impartiality issues that come before the judicial officer.  For instance, the judicial officer should consider the impression that may be conveyed when responding to comments that are posted on the blog and how to tailor those comments to avoid any impression that the judicial officer's impartiality might be called into question. The judicial officer should also consider whether readers might perceive that the judge's impartiality is impaired by the volume and content of the comments received.
 
In time, we will surely have a better sense as to what will -- or will not -- cause the appearance of judges' partiality in cyberspace and, in particular, in the blogosphere.  For now, Judge Strickland was wise to take a safe route – and other judges may be wise to take heed of his examples and keep their blog preferences out of the public eye.

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/ramasastry/20100506.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 07:25:24 PM
Only one person from the Center for Justice not getting paid by Florida tax dollars:


Center for Justice in Capital Cases
O'Malley Place 10th Floor
25 East Jackson Boulevard

 
  DIRECTOR:
Andrea D. Lyon

STAFF ATTORNEY:
Mort Smith

MITIGATION SPECIALIST:
Jeanne Barrett

CJCC COORDINATOR:
Mary Bandstra


 

http://directory.depaul.edu/dept_dir/law.aspx


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 07:29:00 PM
Nebraska !!!!!!!!! LOLOLOL...

 ::MonkeyEek::  Present and accounted for!  Uh.... what about Nebraska?   ::dogwag::


LOL--when Baez replied that one of his experts was fom there it was funny as it is so far away from Orlando & Judge Perry was hoping to cut costs and get as many local or nearby experts as possible.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Thanks Ono!  Would have loved to have seen Judge Perry's face when Baez was explaining that!! 



LOL---His Honor displayed quite a lovely plethora of facial expressions today!!    Just love the man.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 07:29:04 PM
Brandi I thought that photo of LKB was fake and that the twitter was fake - It is " her" twitter - the picture matches her Bio and written media on the Huffington Post.
I don't know who she is kidding ..she does not look like that photo. noooo Maybe 20 yrs ago.
I guess if it makes her Smile ..that's what matters. 


Kind of misleading to post an old photo like that. That's all I meant.

*shrug*
Air brushing to the max, one of the best air brushing jobs I have seen  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 07:30:48 PM
IMO, that little temporary blackout/transfer to the outside where we saw Kathi was getting ready, was deliberate ... maybe to insure no leakage of sound ?????  Because, I think they were discussing the newest motion that Jar filed just this morning---perhaps after 9 a.m.  He refused to tell her about it & told her to go look it up in that exit video.    I still say Baez was very shook & livid as they left.  He even pulled the old "Mark Geargos-talk-on-the cellphone-as-you're walking" routine.

Ooh! I soo agree. Baez was so upset he was nearly in tears. But that's still no reason to act like he was 6. What I would really love to see from now on is for Kathi to ignore him and treat Cheney like the lead attorney and ask him any questions she might have. That would really get Bozo's knickers in a twist!!
 :smt064


All better duck & take cover at Baez's house tonight---he strikes me as one who takes his cases home with him.  lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 07:31:59 PM
IMO, that little temporary blackout/transfer to the outside where we saw Kathi was getting ready, was deliberate ... maybe to insure no leakage of sound ?????  Because, I think they were discussing the newest motion that Jar filed just this morning---perhaps after 9 a.m.  He refused to tell her about it & told her to go look it up in that exit video.    I still say Baez was very shook & livid as they left.  He even pulled the old "Mark Geargos-talk-on-the cellphone-as-you're walking" routine.
He sure did, didn't he, let's start pretending we are talking on the cell phone  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   Can't fool us---we're old hands at this!
Yes  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 07:33:19 PM

***Her attorneys asked that she not have to attend hearings. “Casey Anthony doesn’t like people criticizing her appearance or actions, so she asked to stay in jail during future hearings,”   ::MonkeyEek::  Wow, little late for that


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NM on May 06, 2010, 07:34:06 PM
Thanks NorthernRose.   ::MonkeyBike::
Yes thank-you  ::MonkeyCool:: 
She is suing the State of Florida for funds for the defense which it sounded like she expects to lose before she can even mount it, She compared the experience to the Salem Witch Trial, although it sounded even worse. It is like Alice in Wonderland, “first the verdict and then the trial.”  WTH, I just know I'm living in a parallel universe  ::MonkeyHaHa::


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image181.png)

Brandi, she never looked this good even in her legendary mind.
 ::piggy::
Funny, I was think of something similar, that the State of FL should sue the nightmare team and casey for tying up the courts and the prosecution for almost 2 yrs. And now that she is "poor" and wants the tax payers to pay for her duhfence now they will start their investigations and findings!

One more thing, if according to biass they are going to interview family and teachers (from elementary school), I think the prosceution should be able to use any photos depicting casey's behavior even before casey killed Caylee.

RE Brandi's pic above, I wonder how many power tools they needed to get lyons hair to look nice?!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 07:34:18 PM
Thanks NorthernRose.   ::MonkeyBike::
Yes thank-you  ::MonkeyCool:: 
She is suing the State of Florida for funds for the defense which it sounded like she expects to lose before she can even mount it, She compared the experience to the Salem Witch Trial, although it sounded even worse. It is like Alice in Wonderland, “first the verdict and then the trial.”  WTH, I just know I'm living in a parallel universe  ::MonkeyHaHa::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::   And you actually survive the HaLeigh threads too.   My hat's off to you--you're a stronger person than I am.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NM on May 06, 2010, 07:39:08 PM

***Her attorneys asked that she not have to attend hearings. “Casey Anthony doesn’t like people criticizing her appearance or actions, so she asked to stay in jail during future hearings,”   ::MonkeyEek::  Wow, little late for that
Right?  Plus, I didn't know she was on line so much. I mean really, how is she able to find out that people are criticizing her? TV, magazines, phone calls, visits, internet????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 07:41:41 PM
They are going to go back to the time of conception, and every thing that happened between then and now. I'm actually very interested in this, I always have to know what makes a person tick, and I'm prepared for what makes Casey and her family tick.

'Twill be interesting to see how they spin their 'dirty laundry' in public, but right is right & wrong is wrong, but the murdering of a defenseless child will not be washed away in the rinse cycle.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 07:45:12 PM
Thanks NorthernRose.   ::MonkeyBike::
Yes thank-you  ::MonkeyCool:: 
She is suing the State of Florida for funds for the defense which it sounded like she expects to lose before she can even mount it, She compared the experience to the Salem Witch Trial, although it sounded even worse. It is like Alice in Wonderland, “first the verdict and then the trial.”  WTH, I just know I'm living in a parallel universe  ::MonkeyHaHa::


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image181.png)

Brandi, she never looked this good even in her legendary mind.
 ::piggy::

You can say that agaian!  LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sister on May 06, 2010, 07:52:44 PM
Hold on to your wine glasses!
34 pages with exhibits on Motions filed today.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 07:54:57 PM
Nebraska !!!!!!!!! LOLOLOL...

 ::MonkeyEek::  Present and accounted for!  Uh.... what about Nebraska?   ::dogwag::


LOL--when Baez replied that one of his experts was fom there it was funny as it is so far away from Orlando & Judge Perry was hoping to cut costs and get as many local or nearby experts as possible.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Thanks Ono!  Would have loved to have seen Judge Perry's face when Baez was explaining that!! 



LOL---His Honor displayed quite a lovely plethora of facial expressions today!!    Just love the man.

Me too Ono.I love to listen to him.He is very intelligent.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 06, 2010, 07:58:06 PM
So this Ms. Barrett after talking to family......what's she gonna say, she should be pitied and spared the DP because the entire family hated KC cause she was a liar and a thief.....good luck with that as an excuse for murdering your baby Caylee! ::MonkeyMad::
I guess Seeme that is her position within is to portray Casey as necessary hah. Bobo said that this woman has interviewed all these relatives of Casey's ..from Ohio, Carolina's ... who are these people. Since day one  "no one" from the family but Rick Plesea has ever spoke out. Its been CA/GA/LA and Grandma Shirley. Not one " Friend of Family" has ever been heard of or seen. Even the Neighbors don't want to be involved.  Who are all these " family members" that were interviewed by Barrett to represent Casey's person/present/past ??
Beat me with a stick  :smt075  :smt102 .. sounds like nonsense, but then again it was Bobo who explained her " Barrett's"  key purpose for testimony.  

JMO, but with so much emphasis on Ms. Barrett it seems clear to me that HER DUHfence team fully expect her to be convicted of MURDER...........Ms. Barrett and her input will be for the sentencing phase, to try to keep her from getting the DP.....only because they don't beleive in the DP....it has nothing to do with Caylee or KC for them.....it the DP..............Damn, if I felt I was that close to getting the death penalty I would be demanding a plea. These attorneys are only out for their own glory. They KNOW she is going to be convicted..but I bet that's not what they are telling her

I think they are ALL working toward the penalty phase of the trial and have completely discarded all idea they had of of getting her found not guilty. At this point they are just milking the hearings for all the publicity THEY can get and to hell with KC..................Unfortunately she is way TOO STUPID to see it and the BOZO won't let anyone get close enough to her to tell her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 07:58:14 PM
Brandi I thought that photo of LKB was fake and that the twitter was fake - It is " her" twitter - the picture matches her Bio and written media on the Huffington Post.
I don't know who she is kidding ..she does not look like that photo. noooo Maybe 20 yrs ago.
I guess if it makes her Smile ..that's what matters. 


Kind of misleading to post an old photo like that. That's all I meant.

*shrug*

No no no ..Brandi I was overtly trying to be Nice * of her after all this Lyonese talk  that women in Law are a joke with their lies/deceptions etc...Omg No shrugs from you ...see what happens when I do not follow my instincts. I was going to write " She must be Disillusion" That photo is a fraction of her true self ..  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Please No Shrugs  ITA it is misleading........ ::MonkeyCool::

Oh Deenie! I was shrugging at LKB being misleading.

Not your comment!

 ::MonkeyPeace::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 07:58:39 PM
Hold on to your wine glasses!
34 pages with exhibits on Motions filed today.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html


Thank you Sister.   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 07:59:44 PM
Hold on to your wine glasses!
34 pages with exhibits on Motions filed today.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html


OFGS!

A huge waste.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 08:01:07 PM
Nebraska !!!!!!!!! LOLOLOL...

 ::MonkeyEek::  Present and accounted for!  Uh.... what about Nebraska?   ::dogwag::


LOL--when Baez replied that one of his experts was fom there it was funny as it is so far away from Orlando & Judge Perry was hoping to cut costs and get as many local or nearby experts as possible.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Thanks Ono!  Would have loved to have seen Judge Perry's face when Baez was explaining that!! 



LOL---His Honor displayed quite a lovely plethora of facial expressions today!!    Just love the man.

Me too Ono.I love to listen to him.He is very intelligent.   ::MonkeyCool::

I especially like how he is prepared and ready to cite the law and his interpretation to the case at a moment's notice.

He impresses me with his knowledge of the law. Sorry to say, Judge Strickland didn't impress me that way.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 08:03:01 PM
Thanks NorthernRose.   ::MonkeyBike::
Yes thank-you  ::MonkeyCool:: 
She is suing the State of Florida for funds for the defense which it sounded like she expects to lose before she can even mount it, She compared the experience to the Salem Witch Trial, although it sounded even worse. It is like Alice in Wonderland, “first the verdict and then the trial.”  WTH, I just know I'm living in a parallel universe  ::MonkeyHaHa::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::   And you actually survive the HaLeigh threads too.   My hat's off to you--you're a stronger person than I am.
But at the end of the day, I'm babbling to myself  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 08:04:13 PM

***Her attorneys asked that she not have to attend hearings. “Casey Anthony doesn’t like people criticizing her appearance or actions, so she asked to stay in jail during future hearings,”   ::MonkeyEek::  Wow, little late for that
Right?  Plus, I didn't know she was on line so much. I mean really, how is she able to find out that people are criticizing her? TV, magazines, phone calls, visits, internet????
::MonkeyEek:: I didn't think of that, does she have access to the internet, or does her lawyers tell her this stuff?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sister on May 06, 2010, 08:04:43 PM
Hold on to your wine glasses!
34 pages with exhibits on Motions filed today.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html


OFGS!

A huge waste.

I don't think His Honor Judge Perry will take a liking to all/numerous snide remarks in these Motions, beginning with calling Judge Strickland "disqualified" and going further to disparge LE with acting like they know what LE is thinking, etc.  Not going to be a pretty day when His Honor reads all this crap.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 08:04:46 PM
Hold on to your wine glasses!
34 pages with exhibits on Motions filed today.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html

Thanks, they were very busy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 08:19:28 PM
Only one person from the Center for Justice not getting paid by Florida tax dollars:


Center for Justice in Capital Cases
O'Malley Place 10th Floor
25 East Jackson Boulevard

 
  DIRECTOR:
Andrea D. Lyon

STAFF ATTORNEY:
Mort Smith

MITIGATION SPECIALIST:
Jeanne Barrett

CJCC COORDINATOR:
Mary Bandstra


 

http://directory.depaul.edu/dept_dir/law.aspx
::MonkeyShocked:: Boy Oh Boy If I lived in Florida ...That's crazy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 08:20:15 PM
Hold on to your wine glasses!
34 pages with exhibits on Motions filed today.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html


 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 08:22:15 PM
Hold on to your wine glasses!
34 pages with exhibits on Motions filed today.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html

Thanks, they were very busy.
I am falling behind ..k going to go open the pdf.. If I don't come back after reading
 :smt119 :gaah: you will know where to find me  ::monkeymargarita::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 08:23:30 PM
Am mad already and haven't even begun to read---"disqualified judge" ..............oh, what unmitigated nerve!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sister on May 06, 2010, 08:32:54 PM
Am mad already and haven't even begun to read---"disqualified judge" ..............oh, what unmitigated nerve!

Ono, take deep breaths -- you're going to need them!!!
 ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 08:42:21 PM
Hold on to your wine glasses!
34 pages with exhibits on Motions filed today.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html

Thanks, they were very busy.
I am falling behind ..k going to go open the pdf.. If I don't come back after reading
 :smt119 :gaah: you will know where to find me  ::monkeymargarita::  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I started reading, but will have to finish tomorrow, had enough of all this defense bs for one day. So far what I've read is it appears the motions are the ones that Judge Stickland already ruled on. Guess they want another go at it all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 08:43:01 PM
Am mad already and haven't even begun to read---"disqualified judge" ..............oh, what unmitigated nerve!

Ono, take deep breaths -- you're going to need them!!!
 ::monkeywine2::

Sister as I read this pdf .. and since you are a expert at Gum chewing ( as you told me earlier..which I thought was a hoot) ... um ... can anyone be an Esquire ??? what is an Esquire ?
Both Bobo and LYONASE hold the mayo ...call themselves " Esquires" ... k back to frustration bbs


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sister on May 06, 2010, 08:46:18 PM
Am mad already and haven't even begun to read---"disqualified judge" ..............oh, what unmitigated nerve!

Ono, take deep breaths -- you're going to need them!!!
 ::monkeywine2::

Sister as I read this pdf .. and since you are a expert at Gum chewing ( as you told me earlier..which I thought was a hoot) ... um ... can anyone be an Esquire ??? what is an Esquire ?
Both Bobo and LYONASE hold the mayo ...call themselves " Esquires" ... k back to frustration bbs
Esquire means attorney/lawyer.  I guess I could call myself an Esquire, but it wouldn't be true.  It's about the same as bozo calling himself a good lawyer, it ain't true either.  But, he does have the right to the title.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mgoblue on May 06, 2010, 08:48:47 PM
Hold on to your wine glasses!
34 pages with exhibits on Motions filed today.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html

Thanks, they were very busy.
I am falling behind ..k going to go open the pdf.. If I don't come back after reading
 :smt119 :gaah: you will know where to find me  ::monkeymargarita::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Hi Monekys. Good luck Deenie. I've tried twice and I just cant do it. My head hurt reading the first sentence on page seven. You're a brave monkey. ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sister on May 06, 2010, 08:49:36 PM
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Esquire (abbreviated Esq.) is a term of British origin (ultimately from Latin scutarius in the sense of shield bearer via Old French "esquier"). An unofficial title of respect, having no precise significance, it is used to denote a high but indeterminate social status.[1] Esquire is cognate with the word squire, which originally meant an apprentice or assistant to a knight. Relics of this origin can still be found today associated with the word Esquire. For example in the Most Venerable Order of the Hospital of Saint John of Jerusalem "Esquire" is today the most junior grade of membership. "In the U.S., usually applied to lawyers, women as well as men; in Britain, applied to a commoner considered to have gained the social position of a gentleman."



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mgoblue on May 06, 2010, 08:51:05 PM

***Her attorneys asked that she not have to attend hearings. “Casey Anthony doesn’t like people criticizing her appearance or actions, so she asked to stay in jail during future hearings,”   ::MonkeyEek::  Wow, little late for that
Right?  Plus, I didn't know she was on line so much. I mean really, how is she able to find out that people are criticizing her? TV, magazines, phone calls, visits, internet????
::MonkeyEek:: I didn't think of that, does she have access to the internet, or does her lawyers tell her this stuff?

Maybe mother dearest has been sending her notes. ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sister on May 06, 2010, 08:56:36 PM
Hold on to your wine glasses!
34 pages with exhibits on Motions filed today.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html

Thanks, they were very busy.
I am falling behind ..k going to go open the pdf.. If I don't come back after reading
 :smt119 :gaah: you will know where to find me  ::monkeymargarita::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Hi Monekys. Good luck Deenie. I've tried twice and I just cant do it. My head hurt reading the first sentence on page seven. You're a brave monkey. ::MonkeyDevil::

Sorry for your head hurt
 :smt056

misapprehended
Definition from Wiktionary, a free dictionaryJump to: navigation, search
[edit] English[edit] Verb misapprehended

Simple past tense and past participle of misapprehend.
[edit] Adjective misapprehended (comparative more misapprehended, superlative most misapprehended)

Positive
misapprehended
  Comparative
more misapprehended
  Superlative
most misapprehended
 
Misunderstood.
Retrieved from "http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/misapprehended"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 08:58:48 PM
Am mad already and haven't even begun to read---"disqualified judge" ..............oh, what unmitigated nerve!

Ono, take deep breaths -- you're going to need them!!!
 ::monkeywine2::

Sister as I read this pdf .. and since you are a expert at Gum chewing ( as you told me earlier..which I thought was a hoot) ... um ... can anyone be an Esquire ??? what is an Esquire ?
Both Bobo and LYONASE hold the mayo ...call themselves " Esquires" ... k back to frustration bbs

from wikipedia:

❝An unofficial title of respect, having no precise significance, it is used to denote a high but indeterminate social status.❞

and

❝In the U.S., usually applied to lawyers, women as well as men; in Britain, applied to a commoner considered to have gained the social position of a gentleman.❞


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 06, 2010, 09:00:40 PM

***Her attorneys asked that she not have to attend hearings. “Casey Anthony doesn’t like people criticizing her appearance or actions, so she asked to stay in jail during future hearings,”   ::MonkeyEek::  Wow, little late for that
Right?  Plus, I didn't know she was on line so much. I mean really, how is she able to find out that people are criticizing her? TV, magazines, phone calls, visits, internet????
::MonkeyEek:: I didn't think of that, does she have access to the internet, or does her lawyers tell her this stuff?

Maybe mother dearest has been sending her notes. ::MonkeyDance::
::MonkeyHaHa::  I wish that whoever picks out her clothes would do a better job, geez it is time for clothes that fit proper. Such nonsense, she is staring at the DP and she is worried about someone criticizing her. Got to wonder if what Mason was saying today is an attempt at she isn't mentally stable, she would prefer to stay in her cell because it is upsetting to her what people say. That had to be a ploy, or at least I hope so.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 09:02:47 PM
Hold on to your wine glasses!
34 pages with exhibits on Motions filed today.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html

Thanks, they were very busy.
I am falling behind ..k going to go open the pdf.. If I don't come back after reading
 :smt119 :gaah: you will know where to find me  ::monkeymargarita::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Hi Monekys. Good luck Deenie. I've tried twice and I just cant do it. My head hurt reading the first sentence on page seven. You're a brave monkey. ::MonkeyDevil::

I heard that.I can't take it this evening.
My mind keeps interpreting the words as saying bull**** repeatedly.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sister on May 06, 2010, 09:03:19 PM
NoRose, maybe we have "misapprehended" the depth of her despair NOT
Nite all
I have misapprehended the amount of sleep I need.
 :smt015


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:05:54 PM
Hold on to your wine glasses!
34 pages with exhibits on Motions filed today.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html


Have now read it---a bad meal which cannot be digested coming back over & over.

I just don't think this burp will fly.  [ It's sourly petty in spots too ]


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 06, 2010, 09:06:58 PM
NoRose, maybe we have "misapprehended" the depth of her despair NOT
Nite all
I have misapprehended the amount of sleep I need.
 :smt015

Have a good evening Sister.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:07:34 PM
So this Ms. Barrett after talking to family......what's she gonna say, she should be pitied and spared the DP because the entire family hated KC cause she was a liar and a thief.....good luck with that as an excuse for murdering your baby Caylee! ::MonkeyMad::
I guess Seeme that is her position within is to portray Casey as necessary hah. Bobo said that this woman has interviewed all these relatives of Casey's ..from Ohio, Carolina's ... who are these people. Since day one  "no one" from the family but Rick Plesea has ever spoke out. Its been CA/GA/LA and Grandma Shirley. Not one " Friend of Family" has ever been heard of or seen. Even the Neighbors don't want to be involved.  Who are all these " family members" that were interviewed by Barrett to represent Casey's person/present/past ??
Beat me with a stick  :smt075  :smt102 .. sounds like nonsense, but then again it was Bobo who explained her " Barrett's"  key purpose for testimony.  

JMO, but with so much emphasis on Ms. Barrett it seems clear to me that HER DUHfence team fully expect her to be convicted of MURDER...........Ms. Barrett and her input will be for the sentencing phase, to try to keep her from getting the DP.....only because they don't beleive in the DP....it has nothing to do with Caylee or KC for them.....it the DP..............Damn, if I felt I was that close to getting the death penalty I would be demanding a plea. These attorneys are only out for their own glory. They KNOW she is going to be convicted..but I bet that's not what they are telling her

I think they are ALL working toward the penalty phase of the trial and have completely discarded all idea they had of of getting her found not guilty. At this point they are just milking the hearings for all the publicity THEY can get and to hell with KC..................Unfortunately she is way TOO STUPID to see it and the BOZO won't let anyone get close enough to her to tell her.

I think you're correct.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sister on May 06, 2010, 09:08:56 PM
NoRose, maybe we have "misapprehended" the depth of her despair NOT
Nite all
I have misapprehended the amount of sleep I need.
 :smt015

Have a good evening Sister.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Thank you my friend -- sleep and night dreams are two things I look forward to.  I think I will dream about shooting stars with very long tails.  I love to watch for them when it gets warmer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:09:11 PM
Thanks NorthernRose.   ::MonkeyBike::
Yes thank-you  ::MonkeyCool:: 
She is suing the State of Florida for funds for the defense which it sounded like she expects to lose before she can even mount it, She compared the experience to the Salem Witch Trial, although it sounded even worse. It is like Alice in Wonderland, “first the verdict and then the trial.”  WTH, I just know I'm living in a parallel universe  ::MonkeyHaHa::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::   And you actually survive the HaLeigh threads too.   My hat's off to you--you're a stronger person than I am.
But at the end of the day, I'm babbling to myself  ::MonkeyHaHa::


LOL--don't feel baly, I've been babbling to myself for years.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:09:52 PM
**badly**   lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:12:51 PM
Am mad already and haven't even begun to read---"disqualified judge" ..............oh, what unmitigated nerve!

Ono, take deep breaths -- you're going to need them!!!
 ::monkeywine2::

You are so right---heading for the cab/sav now.   I really am frosted.  Paragraphs 22,23,24 were particularly testy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mgoblue on May 06, 2010, 09:13:33 PM
NoRose, maybe we have "misapprehended" the depth of her despair NOT
Nite all
I have misapprehended the amount of sleep I need.
 :smt015

Thanks Sister. Sweet dreams. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 06, 2010, 09:17:24 PM

***Her attorneys asked that she not have to attend hearings. “Casey Anthony doesn’t like people criticizing her appearance or actions, so she asked to stay in jail during future hearings,”   ::MonkeyEek::  Wow, little late for that
Right?  Plus, I didn't know she was on line so much. I mean really, how is she able to find out that people are criticizing her? TV, magazines, phone calls, visits, internet????
::MonkeyEek:: I didn't think of that, does she have access to the internet, or does her lawyers tell her this stuff?

Maybe mother dearest has been sending her notes. ::MonkeyDance::

That I would not doubt.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Babybear on May 06, 2010, 09:28:57 PM
Brandi I thought that photo of LKB was fake and that the twitter was fake - It is " her" twitter - the picture matches her Bio and written media on the Huffington Post.
I don't know who she is kidding ..she does not look like that photo. noooo Maybe 20 yrs ago.
I guess if it makes her Smile ..that's what matters. 


Kind of misleading to post an old photo like that. That's all I meant.

*shrug*

Hi Brandi and all---It might make her smile but it makes me laugh.  I'll never forget that lace-up-the-back black dress thingy she wore in court.  I don't know if there is a course in law school on how to dress professionally for court, but there should be and she should take it, as well as Ms. Lyon.  Clothes do make the man, or in this case the woman.  Many, if not most, people make a judgement on a first impression. If a person is not dressed appropriately for the occasion, it reflects badly on them, IMO.  Perhaps I shouldn't say this, but both Ms. Baden and Ms. Lyon look slovenly, as if they don't care about their appearance.  I think you must look your best to do your best.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 09:30:40 PM
Hold on to your wine glasses!
34 pages with exhibits on Motions filed today.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html


thanks Sister....I'll go make a pitcher of ::monkeymargarita:: and read.......I just know it's gonna pizz me off!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 09:38:38 PM
So this Ms. Barrett after talking to family......what's she gonna say, she should be pitied and spared the DP because the entire family hated KC cause she was a liar and a thief.....good luck with that as an excuse for murdering your baby Caylee! ::MonkeyMad::
I guess Seeme that is her position within is to portray Casey as necessary hah. Bobo said that this woman has interviewed all these relatives of Casey's ..from Ohio, Carolina's ... who are these people. Since day one  "no one" from the family but Rick Plesea has ever spoke out. Its been CA/GA/LA and Grandma Shirley. Not one " Friend of Family" has ever been heard of or seen. Even the Neighbors don't want to be involved.  Who are all these " family members" that were interviewed by Barrett to represent Casey's person/present/past ??
Beat me with a stick  :smt075  :smt102 .. sounds like nonsense, but then again it was Bobo who explained her " Barrett's"  key purpose for testimony.  

JMO, but with so much emphasis on Ms. Barrett it seems clear to me that HER DUHfence team fully expect her to be convicted of MURDER...........Ms. Barrett and her input will be for the sentencing phase, to try to keep her from getting the DP.....only because they don't beleive in the DP....it has nothing to do with Caylee or KC for them.....it the DP..............Damn, if I felt I was that close to getting the death penalty I would be demanding a plea. These attorneys are only out for their own glory. They KNOW she is going to be convicted..but I bet that's not what they are telling her

I think they are ALL working toward the penalty phase of the trial and have completely discarded all idea they had of of getting her found not guilty. At this point they are just milking the hearings for all the publicity THEY can get and to hell with KC..................Unfortunately she is way TOO STUPID to see it and the BOZO won't let anyone get close enough to her to tell her.

TURBO I think we both just said the same thing so I am going to agree with you 100% ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 06, 2010, 09:39:57 PM
Believe me ... I know that at this point it doesn't matter ... but does anyone think that we may find out who Caylee's father was during this trial? 

I know it's wishful thinking ... but I just wish that there was some unknowing father and family out there ... who love (and had they known would have loved) that little girl ... and will fight forever to see her killer mother put in prison ... and bereft of any monetary gain ... and then take over any monetary rights that GA & CA will try to grab! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 09:48:12 PM
Brandi I thought that photo of LKB was fake and that the twitter was fake - It is " her" twitter - the picture matches her Bio and written media on the Huffington Post.
I don't know who she is kidding ..she does not look like that photo. noooo Maybe 20 yrs ago.
I guess if it makes her Smile ..that's what matters. 


Kind of misleading to post an old photo like that. That's all I meant.

*shrug*

Hi Brandi and all---It might make her smile but it makes me laugh.  I'll never forget that lace-up-the-back black dress thingy she wore in court.  I don't know if there is a course in law school on how to dress professionally for court, but there should be and she should take it, as well as Ms. Lyon.  Clothes do make the man, or in this case the woman.  Many, if not most, people make a judgement on a first impression. If a person is not dressed appropriately for the occasion, it reflects badly on them, IMO.  Perhaps I shouldn't say this, but both Ms. Baden and Ms. Lyon look slovenly, as if they don't care about their appearance.  I think you must look your best to do your best.

hi BB........I wondered where you were ::MonkeyDance::

I 'heard' from several female attorney's in Houston that some female attorney's felt like they bonded' with jurors better if they dressed down as opposed to dressing up. Fortunately none of our female attorney's felt that way. They were stylish and professional just as  Linda Drane Burdick.  Personally both Lyons and Baden looks like old bar gals to me...JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Mtnmom on May 06, 2010, 09:49:33 PM
So why is the tape that JJ made any different than the tape  or notes Mort smith made of the interview of JJ?
Dont think that tapes gonna come unsealed, they already know what on it if theyve seen Mort smiths notes correct?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 06, 2010, 09:50:01 PM
Believe me ... I know that at this point it doesn't matter ... but does anyone think that we may find out who Caylee's father was during this trial? 

I know it's wishful thinking ... but I just wish that there was some unknowing father and family out there ... who love (and had they known would have loved) that little girl ... and will fight forever to see her killer mother put in prison ... and bereft of any monetary gain ... and then take over any monetary rights that GA & CA will try to grab! 

I don't think we will ever find out, because I don't think KC knows for CERTAIN.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 09:50:29 PM
Motions PDF just released http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html
Pg 14. Mort Smith
Lead Licensed Private Detective  Defense Team ( does he make $5.00 an hour & have afternoon Tea with Cindy Anthony too? )

Mort Smith Licensed Lead Investigator of Capital Case - Casey Anthony

---retyped copy since I cannot copy/paste
6. During my investigation, I was informed by a former TES volunteer that Mr. Joseph Jordan possibly searched the area around Hopespring and Suburban Streets in Orlando Florida and he be willing to speak with me. ( pretty evasive lingo here for it to be noted as so substantial )  SEE pdf number 13 below this I did not retype it.

((** I know this seems of a Mute point to pull out of all the papers -but since we think that there was thoughts/ideas planted/witnesses put within all this by Cindy and George. That its possible the trial is going to be based on Caylee being moved or put in the woods after Slore went to lock up... sorry me brain is getting tired))

Basically what Line 13 says: statements by JJ did not match up - after the fact " LE & Mort " compared and were given 2 different stories/accounts by JJ.  That too me says John Jordan is not a credible witness Duh. More stalling by Duhfense since JJ was to be their smoking gun but 5 wks ago - failed, Which as we all recall BOBO did not disclose in court that JJ was not credible. Quite the opposite of what Mort his Lead Detective has recorded
My questions of Mort Smith " LEAD" Detective, does that mean He is the only "investigator" ONE? on the Duhfense Team?  If he is so great and has been appointed " Lead Detective" How come no one from the Duhfense Team can locate Mark Nejame's Office ?? He seems to be the one that is handling the TES portion of " Investigation" that is so essential according to BahYez ...and Bahyez has been whining since Mark Nejame whipped him in court ..weeks ago. * I can't have what I want ~ My Way from TES/MN ..waaa.  He tried it today/speaking of witnesses/discovery with Judge Perry..he started in with the sentence of TES and Judge Perry cut him off at the pass..and said LETS Stay on track. And Bahyez was like OOO well excuse me. It was never brought back up.

** My other thought on more ways to waste time and money - was the clarification made by JAR when he was discussing Atty's Pro Bono. He said that IF there is ONE Atty representing a Client their Travel would be paid for. Who said this I cant recall .. There is 8 members of Counsel on the Defense Team for Casey Anthony. I wrote it down 8 Mort is not Counsel he is a detective. Or is he part of counsel?

Bahyez the Clown   :clown:
Kernal Sanders  - yes Corn - Moon shine Mason  :smt030
LYONase with her strap on - :smt084
Linda Kenney Baden who is confused on who she is - :geek:
Jeanene Barrett - Casey's sob story specialist  :shock:
Cased Out Kasen is Civil not criminal...  :alien:
Who are the other 3 members of the Duhfense team " Counsel " ??
Who am I forgetting ?? :2brickwall:



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Babybear on May 06, 2010, 09:51:55 PM
Believe me ... I know that at this point it doesn't matter ... but does anyone think that we may find out who Caylee's father was during this trial? 

I know it's wishful thinking ... but I just wish that there was some unknowing father and family out there ... who love (and had they known would have loved) that little girl ... and will fight forever to see her killer mother put in prison ... and bereft of any monetary gain ... and then take over any monetary rights that GA & CA will try to grab! 

Hi Newfie---I, too, wish that Caylee's father would be identified.  I can think of several lawsuits he could file, including fraud, wrongful death, etc. etc. etc.  Against Casey and the entire family.  Even if he were dead, I think his family has standing to sue if they were kept away from Caylee or from even knowing she existed.  It's so strange that the Anthonys acted as if Caylee were the result of a virgin birth and no male was involved. In the past the father of a child born out of wedlock had no rights concerning the child, but times have changed and the father has the same rights and responsibilities he would have were he married to the mother.  It's my belief, however, that even Casey doesn't know the identity of Caylee's father.  If she did, she would have demanded and gotten some child support money and if the father is indeed deceased, she could have gotten Social Security payments.  I do not believe that the Anthonys, money grubbers that they are, would have passed on getting some money from Caylee's father.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 09:54:10 PM
NoRose, maybe we have "misapprehended" the depth of her despair NOT
Nite all
I have misapprehended the amount of sleep I need.
 :smt015
I didnt get to say Goodnight  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 09:56:15 PM
Hold on to your wine glasses!
34 pages with exhibits on Motions filed today.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html

Thanks, they were very busy.
I am falling behind ..k going to go open the pdf.. If I don't come back after reading
 :smt119 :gaah: you will know where to find me  ::monkeymargarita::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Hi Monekys. Good luck Deenie. I've tried twice and I just cant do it. My head hurt reading the first sentence on page seven. You're a brave monkey. ::MonkeyDevil::

I heard that.I can't take it this evening.
My mind keeps interpreting the words as saying bull**** repeatedly.   ::MonkeyTongue::
OH Me too I only to page 7. Oh I am laughing out loud at myself.. I think my brain is dented after today. I am closing the pdf right now. I can't do it. Not Tonight ...oMg ..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 10:00:47 PM
Hold on to your wine glasses!
34 pages with exhibits on Motions filed today.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html

Thanks, they were very busy.
I am falling behind ..k going to go open the pdf.. If I don't come back after reading
 :smt119 :gaah: you will know where to find me  ::monkeymargarita::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Hi Monekys. Good luck Deenie. I've tried twice and I just cant do it. My head hurt reading the first sentence on page seven. You're a brave monkey. ::MonkeyDevil::

I heard that.I can't take it this evening.
My mind keeps interpreting the words as saying bull**** repeatedly.   ::MonkeyTongue::
OH Me too I only to page 7. Oh I am laughing out loud at myself.. I think my brain is dented after today. I am closing the pdf right now. I can't do it. Not Tonight ...oMg ..

I feel your pain!

 :smt056


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 06, 2010, 10:01:22 PM
Sunny & Babybear ... 

I agree .. probably no idea who the father is ... just Newfie wishful thinking!  Dagnabit! 

I just keep thinking that even if she's found guilty ... the Anthony's (Ga & Ca) will find ways to make money off of Caylee!  That burns me up  ::MonkeyMad::

YOU DIDN'T PROTECT HER ... YOU CAN'T STAND UP FOR HER EVEN WHEN YOU KNOW THE TRUTH ... YOU SHOULD BE DENIED MONETARY GAIN FROM HER MEMORY AND THOSE WHO LOVED HER WHEN SHE WAS GONE!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Love2Read on May 06, 2010, 10:04:46 PM
Am mad already and haven't even begun to read---"disqualified judge" ..............oh, what unmitigated nerve!



LOL, my blood is boiling too.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: bikerbev on May 06, 2010, 10:06:37 PM
Believe me ... I know that at this point it doesn't matter ... but does anyone think that we may find out who Caylee's father was during this trial? 

I know it's wishful thinking ... but I just wish that there was some unknowing father and family out there ... who love (and had they known would have loved) that little girl ... and will fight forever to see her killer mother put in prison ... and bereft of any monetary gain ... and then take over any monetary rights that GA & CA will try to grab! 
I was kinda hoping the same thing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 10:13:04 PM
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/eeniemeanie-1.jpg)


Newfie
I don't think Casey knows or remembers ...sad but true.
Too many Men and too much time on her hands .. never enough $ in her pockets.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on May 06, 2010, 10:13:22 PM
I just finished watching the hearing. I think Judge Perry was more than fair with the duhfense. They got more than they deserved as far as being able to keep their experts.

I have to give it to Bozo. He made me LOL when he said that someone over there found it funny to give him psychic tips that cost them $1000. I sure found it funny!

I like Judge Perry, but by the time he gets a sentence out, I could read 3 books. That drives me nuts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 10:15:07 PM
Hold on to your wine glasses!
34 pages with exhibits on Motions filed today.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html

Thanks, they were very busy.
I am falling behind ..k going to go open the pdf.. If I don't come back after reading
 :smt119 :gaah: you will know where to find me  ::monkeymargarita::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Hi Monekys. Good luck Deenie. I've tried twice and I just cant do it. My head hurt reading the first sentence on page seven. You're a brave monkey. ::MonkeyDevil::

I heard that.I can't take it this evening.
My mind keeps interpreting the words as saying bull**** repeatedly.   ::MonkeyTongue::
OH Me too I only to page 7. Oh I am laughing out loud at myself.. I think my brain is dented after today. I am closing the pdf right now. I can't do it. Not Tonight ...oMg ..

I feel your pain!

 :smt056
Brandi Who are the other 3 members of Duhfense Counsel? grrr I can't think..my last big post with toon faces.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 06, 2010, 10:15:31 PM
Believe me ... I know that at this point it doesn't matter ... but does anyone think that we may find out who Caylee's father was during this trial? 

I know it's wishful thinking ... but I just wish that there was some unknowing father and family out there ... who love (and had they known would have loved) that little girl ... and will fight forever to see her killer mother put in prison ... and bereft of any monetary gain ... and then take over any monetary rights that GA & CA will try to grab! 
I was kinda hoping the same thing.
I've gotta think we aren't the only ones biker! 

I've just gotta think that there is no way Casey will not spend the rest of her life in prison.  The citizens of Florida are smarter than that! 

So I take the next step and see George and Cindy playing the grieving grandparents and never working again ... making money off of Caylee and at the same time -  blaming Caylee's death for the fact that they can't get jobs! 

They didn't protect her in life ... and certainly haven't protected her in death!  They have no right!  But unless there is someone else blood related to step up ... I think that's what will happen. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 10:16:55 PM
If the defense gets to kill another stand of trees with this "do-over until we benefit" motion then I say WE deserve a do-over and get to have the tape of the day the remains were found and KC's reaction in jail released for the metal anguish we are going through watching supposed grow me and members of the bar act like this.    ::monkeywine2::     ::monkeywine2:: 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 10:17:45 PM
Sunny & Babybear ... 

I agree .. probably no idea who the father is ... just Newfie wishful thinking!  Dagnabit! 

I just keep thinking that even if she's found guilty ... the Anthony's (Ga & Ca) will find ways to make money off of Caylee!  That burns me up  ::MonkeyMad::

YOU DIDN'T PROTECT HER ... YOU CAN'T STAND UP FOR HER EVEN WHEN YOU KNOW THE TRUTH ... YOU SHOULD BE DENIED MONETARY GAIN FROM HER MEMORY AND THOSE WHO LOVED HER WHEN SHE WAS GONE!
Go Newfie you are so Correct  ::MonkeyAngel::
You could shout that from the Ant roof top and I feel they still would not " Get It" the message of Millions  ::MonkeyNoNo::...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 10:20:32 PM
If the defense gets to kill another stand of trees with this "do-over until we benefit" motion then I say WE deserve a do-over and get to have the tape of the day the remains were found and KC's reaction in jail released for the metal anguish we are going through watching supposed grow me and members of the bar act like this.    ::monkeywine2::     ::monkeywine2:: 

Northern, That would be a Touch Down  ::MonkeyFootball:: for the Public - Yes.

 ::monkeywine2::  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 06, 2010, 10:21:16 PM

Brandi Who are the other 3 members of Duhfense Counsel? grrr I can't think..my last big post with toon faces.

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I am not sure what is considered the "defense team," I would think they would be lawyers, not just other experts willing to testify in her behalf.

Sorry, I cannot answer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 10:23:35 PM
Deenie, Morty is a lawyer.  Not sure if you counted him.  He is the lawyer for Lyon's study group and is only playing  a PI for this case for some reason.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 10:29:03 PM

Brandi Who are the other 3 members of Duhfense Counsel? grrr I can't think..my last big post with toon faces.

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I am not sure what is considered the "defense team," I would think they would be lawyers, not just other experts willing to testify in her behalf.

Sorry, I cannot answer.
I will have to review the video. It was right at the end when " the Steam started clearing" and Judge Perry was a bit relaxed ... JAR was speaking of Pro Bono/Travel reimbursement - and Mason was chittering away ..about his Travel. Someone piped up to clarify and said there is 8 members of counsel representing Casey Anthony ... I think it was Mason. I know I would remember if it was BoBo sheets though after all said and done maybe it was BoBo.
 ** I liked how Mason slid in ... " I Am Old too" he always makes remarks of his lack of hearing ..that he is so old. I call BS. He is trying to establish himself in the court as the worn out unpaid salty Dog..I am here 2nd chair...don't Mind Me. Wait till this goes full tilt - I bet no one will be able to shut him up. And he will Hear Clear as the Bells Ring on Sunday Morning.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 10:30:23 PM
Deenie, Morty is a lawyer.  Not sure if you counted him.  He is the lawyer for Lyon's study group and is only playing  a PI for this case for some reason.
Northern Thank you - I didn't know he was within the count or not ... This is insane. I swear.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 10:45:33 PM
Dang .. I wish we were all sitting in big squishy chairs in one room. Would be so much nicer  ::MonkeyWink::

Being that Mark Nejame is representing Tim Miller. When will Mark Najame be in Court next?
I can't wait to see his face and posture within Judge Perry's court room.
How many times he will take his glasses off and put them back on ...at the Podium.
He did that 100 times last hearing with Bobo.  I think it was out of pure frustration. Bobo was whipping poor Mark's Brain into a frenzy with his stupidity and disgusting court behavior.
That is going to be something - Judge Perry, Mark Nejame and Bahyez ...
Two Kings and a Joker

Its really going to come to a head I think, because of BoBo's lack of communication with Mark Nejame. That Mark is privy to a lot of knowledge that Bobo has no clue of. Nothing to do with Tim Miller/TES. But what he learned from CA/GA ...that is the stinger that Bobo is trying to avoid.  What did CA/GA disclose to Mark Nejame way back when.

 ::MonkeyTongue::
 Not to mention MN is 100 times more experienced and knows how Judge Perry operates.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Tevye on May 06, 2010, 10:45:45 PM
Am mad already and haven't even begun to read---"disqualified judge" ..............oh, what unmitigated nerve!

Ono, take deep breaths -- you're going to need them!!!
 ::monkeywine2::

Sister as I read this pdf .. and since you are a expert at Gum chewing ( as you told me earlier..which I thought was a hoot) ... um ... can anyone be an Esquire ??? what is an Esquire ?
Both Bobo and LYONASE hold the mayo ...call themselves " Esquires" ... k back to frustration bbs

Oooh, oooh, I know this one (Horhsack is hooting in the background).

Esq. is what attorneys may put after their name...like instead of PhD, Dr., etc. Bobo should just put "Ass." after his!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 10:51:10 PM
Am mad already and haven't even begun to read---"disqualified judge" ..............oh, what unmitigated nerve!

Ono, take deep breaths -- you're going to need them!!!
 ::monkeywine2::

Sister as I read this pdf .. and since you are a expert at Gum chewing ( as you told me earlier..which I thought was a hoot) ... um ... can anyone be an Esquire ??? what is an Esquire ?
Both Bobo and LYONASE hold the mayo ...call themselves " Esquires" ... k back to frustration bbs

Oooh, oooh, I know this one (Horhsack is hooting in the background).

Esq. is what attorneys may put after their name...like instead of PhD, Dr., etc. Bobo should just put "Ass." after his!

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: oh I love Horhshack ..Mr. Cwawter OOO OOO OOO ... Thank You Tevye cause I was thinking I never wanna be a Esquire when I grow up .. even though I didn't have a clue what one was .... ::MonkeyHaHa:: snort.........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 06, 2010, 11:00:09 PM
Am mad already and haven't even begun to read---"disqualified judge" ..............oh, what unmitigated nerve!

Ono, take deep breaths -- you're going to need them!!!
 ::monkeywine2::

Sister as I read this pdf .. and since you are a expert at Gum chewing ( as you told me earlier..which I thought was a hoot) ... um ... can anyone be an Esquire ??? what is an Esquire ?
Both Bobo and LYONASE hold the mayo ...call themselves " Esquires" ... k back to frustration bbs

Oooh, oooh, I know this one (Horhsack is hooting in the background).

Esq. is what attorneys may put after their name...like instead of PhD, Dr., etc. Bobo should just put "Ass." after his!
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: cha ching  you got that right!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 06, 2010, 11:06:08 PM
Morty writes an Ask Mort column as well   ::monkeywine2::

http://www.scribd.com/doc/24228908/Ask-Mort-1

http://www.scribd.com/doc/24155363/Ask-Mort-2

http://www.scribd.com/doc/24229006/Ask-Mort-3

http://www.scribd.com/doc/24229073/Ask-Mort-4

http://www.scribd.com/doc/24229183/Ask-Mort-6


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 06, 2010, 11:12:28 PM

Brandi Who are the other 3 members of Duhfense Counsel? grrr I can't think..my last big post with toon faces.

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I am not sure what is considered the "defense team," I would think they would be lawyers, not just other experts willing to testify in her behalf.

Sorry, I cannot answer.
I will have to review the video. It was right at the end when " the Steam started clearing" and Judge Perry was a bit relaxed ... JAR was speaking of Pro Bono/Travel reimbursement - and Mason was chittering away ..about his Travel. Someone piped up to clarify and said there is 8 members of counsel representing Casey Anthony ... I think it was Mason. I know I would remember if it was BoBo sheets though after all said and done maybe it was BoBo.
 ** I liked how Mason slid in ... " I Am Old too" he always makes remarks of his lack of hearing ..that he is so old. I call BS. He is trying to establish himself in the court as the worn out unpaid salty Dog..I am here 2nd chair...don't Mind Me. Wait till this goes full tilt - I bet no one will be able to shut him up. And he will Hear Clear as the Bells Ring on Sunday Morning.


DEENIE    wish i was in one of those squishy chairs shootin da breeze with all the monkeys too!

Ya know I can't decide on CM, he might be siiting there like a stump and will rise up and play his good ol boy routine one day but honestly i wonder if there's not a power struggle going on and Bozo is being a stubborn mule not wanting to let go of the limelight.  It's hard to tell. this is just preliminary stuff but important, why have your most stupid team member establishing the groundwork?  It's plain to see bozo was miffed today, musta thought he was going to come blasting out of the doors a winner instead a weener.  Probably wouldn't have mattered who argued the motions but still........  he's been telling himself he's a legend for so long he believes it and may not want to give up that numero uno chair.  What was up with that bandage on Jars face ?   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 06, 2010, 11:20:13 PM

Thanks newfie...........they do come in handy a LOT!  LOL  good to see you back!!

I wonder who is paying BOZO. I can't believe he is doing this pro bono, when I look at his cases they are mostly small time stuff which doesn't equal a lot of money (however according to Hornsby he has raised his fees considerably since he got FAMOUS) let me get my tongue out of my cheek!   and to the best of my recollection I can't remember him ever stating he was working pro bono. Also who is paying her lawyer in ZFG's case...Kassen (sic)

I don't care what they say ... I still think there is some under the radar dealing.  How in the world is he paying his personal expenses and his office expenses when working on this case 24/7 for two years with hardly any pay?  I don't know what his wife does - but I wouldn't think she'd be financially supporting the home and his law office this whole time out of her own pocket.

I am thinking it will all come out later, but I believe there were a LOT more backroom deals made which are under the radar right now.  I am sure this judge is going to be investigating all their assets before this is over. Just the complaints filed with the state bar will bring out his accounting before this is over.

I watched Mason today look at BOZO with what seemed like pure disgust a few times. That man knows BOZO is just in this for the fame and money. It is so obvious from his demeanor when he watches BOZO.  

Mason is just biding his time until he can pull off some type of plea deal. That is his plan, as you can tell. He does not take notes, and does not question anything.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 11:24:23 PM
I went back and tortured myself and watched the video ...  6 of 6 I fast forwarded it to the end
http://www.wftv.com/video/23473636/index.html

I could not find the topic of 8 members on Casey's dufense team. 
I did write down at 32:21 - Judge Perry saying " Mr. Bah YICE " instead of Bahyez.  Very noticeable bec there is a pause in court before and after he says it ..
Omg I loved that. At 34:22  Judge Perry questions Bobo and asks for confirmation - Mason is Pro Bono correct? Bobo says Yes.. within a second Mason says back outloud flippant " Old Too". 
These little snarkys are not going to fly very long I don't think. Bobo with his "my 5.00 an Hour wages - set in tone to Judge Perry, as if he is being taken advantage of somehow by the State of Florida " and the last time Bobo correcting Judge Perry on how to say LYON instead of Lyons.. gag that man with a gavel. I can't wait to see Judge Perry throw down.
 ::MonkeyNoNo::






Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 06, 2010, 11:35:10 PM
I went back and tortured myself and watched the video ...  6 of 6 I fast forwarded it to the end
http://www.wftv.com/video/23473636/index.html

I could not find the topic of 8 members on Casey's dufense team. 
I did write down at 32:21 - Judge Perry saying " Mr. Bah YICE " instead of Bahyez.  Very noticeable bec there is a pause in court before and after he says it ..
Omg I loved that. At 34:22  Judge Perry questions Bobo and asks for confirmation - Mason is Pro Bono correct? Bobo says Yes.. within a second Mason says back outloud flippant " Old Too". 
These little snarkys are not going to fly very long I don't think. Bobo with his "my 5.00 an Hour wages - set in tone to Judge Perry, as if he is being taken advantage of somehow by the State of Florida " and the last time Bobo correcting Judge Perry on how to say LYON instead of Lyons.. gag that man with a gavel. I can't wait to see Judge Perry throw down.
 ::MonkeyNoNo::





"gag that man with a gavel."        ::MonkeyHaHa::      bozo is so irritating, whenever he gets on my nerves the first thing that pops into my head is  Maxwell's Silver Hammer by the Beatles.  Can't help it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 06, 2010, 11:49:28 PM
I went back and tortured myself and watched the video ...  6 of 6 I fast forwarded it to the end
http://www.wftv.com/video/23473636/index.html

I could not find the topic of 8 members on Casey's dufense team. 
I did write down at 32:21 - Judge Perry saying " Mr. Bah YICE " instead of Bahyez.  Very noticeable bec there is a pause in court before and after he says it ..
Omg I loved that. At 34:22  Judge Perry questions Bobo and asks for confirmation - Mason is Pro Bono correct? Bobo says Yes.. within a second Mason says back outloud flippant " Old Too". 
These little snarkys are not going to fly very long I don't think. Bobo with his "my 5.00 an Hour wages - set in tone to Judge Perry, as if he is being taken advantage of somehow by the State of Florida " and the last time Bobo correcting Judge Perry on how to say LYON instead of Lyons.. gag that man with a gavel. I can't wait to see Judge Perry throw down.





Good Evening monkeys and guest!

Deenie, during the above posturing by Bozo, when he said that Mason was working pro-bono, Mason chimed in with: " Not away from home" or "only if I am home" Did anyone else catch that?.
 







Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 11:55:50 PM

Brandi Who are the other 3 members of Duhfense Counsel? grrr I can't think..my last big post with toon faces.

✂ snipped ✂

I am not sure what is considered the "defense team," I would think they would be lawyers, not just other experts willing to testify in her behalf.

Sorry, I cannot answer.
I will have to review the video. It was right at the end when " the Steam started clearing" and Judge Perry was a bit relaxed ... JAR was speaking of Pro Bono/Travel reimbursement - and Mason was chittering away ..about his Travel. Someone piped up to clarify and said there is 8 members of counsel representing Casey Anthony ... I think it was Mason. I know I would remember if it was BoBo sheets though after all said and done maybe it was BoBo.
 ** I liked how Mason slid in ... " I Am Old too" he always makes remarks of his lack of hearing ..that he is so old. I call BS. He is trying to establish himself in the court as the worn out unpaid salty Dog..I am here 2nd chair...don't Mind Me. Wait till this goes full tilt - I bet no one will be able to shut him up. And he will Hear Clear as the Bells Ring on Sunday Morning.


DEENIE    wish i was in one of those squishy chairs shootin da breeze with all the monkeys too!

Ya know I can't decide on CM, he might be siiting there like a stump and will rise up and play his good ol boy routine one day but honestly i wonder if there's not a power struggle going on and Bozo is being a stubborn mule not wanting to let go of the limelight.  It's hard to tell. this is just preliminary stuff but important, why have your most stupid team member establishing the groundwork?  It's plain to see bozo was miffed today, musta thought he was going to come blasting out of the doors a winner instead a weener.  Probably wouldn't have mattered who argued the motions but still........  he's been telling himself he's a legend for so long he believes it and may not want to give up that numero uno chair.  What was up with that bandage on Jars face ?   
It is very confusing that Mason is allowing Bobo to set the stage so to say, being that he has no experience in a capital case.. How Long will he allow it? I think when Lyonase hits the chambers " Its going to be the fight of the fittest within the Duhfense team " and Bobo is going to lose. He will be the one holding Casey's shoulders or hands..whispering sweet legal jargon into her ear. That is IF SHE Shows UP ... She should stop worrying about her clothes, face, hair and ppls glances and glares ... and start thinking about WHY she is there. OR WHO PUT HER Here in today's present world - " Herself".  So Be IT. Suck it up. 

Caylee didn't have a voice or choice of her life nor her Death. Yet she had the DREAM TEAM Anthony's Perfect Beaver Cleaver Family from OHIO rebuilding their Lives in the Great State of Florida. Caylee's core family who in a normal family would have fought tooth and nail for her safety, security, welfare etc...knowing Casey was putting her in danger. But they never stepped up. They worried about if she was bathed 6 times a day and had on perfect clothes and that she was to do as she was told on command " SMILE for the CAMERA " ..

Casey: Her Parents and her Dufense Team are not too far apart from each other -Each and All who represent Casey *only* care about their publicity and their gains...
Also to make sure they put on a good LOVING Show for everyone ... that they are concerned for Casey's welfare. NOT. The truth is Casey is not even part of this any more than Caylee is. Its all about what comes after she show is over. After the trial is done ... $$$$$$. Everyone is gearing up for that " Pay off". They all so feel they deserve.
 Casey isn't Karma a Bit@h. She is so thickheaded though she does not realize what is going on around her. She looks out of her demented brain to the outside world as if she playing the Role of a lifetime. She is finally Center Stage. Well... soon she will be alone in a permanent Cage. And I bet her Mommy and Daddy do not offer her a dime to her Cheeto/Hand lotion fund.  They will go buy an RV and travel the USA as " Missionaries" Saving lost Souls who need to be Found. For a small fee of course.  They will venture into small towns where they won't be known and live off more victims ... that's what cockroaches do. Survive.
Whew that felt good. Its true though.
--
Adding
Turbo hit it on the head in her Post - Mason was giving Baez some hefty dirty looks today. I posted while the hearing was ongoing that Mason did a EYE Roll bigger than Godzilla when Baez was speaking ..I can't recall which part of the hearing it was. When Mason was within the camera range I was trying to pay attention to his body language. He did a lot of turning his head to the right ...the Wall.  I think it was out of pure WTH? is he thinking meaning Baez running his mouth in circles.





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Post by: Deenie on May 06, 2010, 11:58:37 PM
I went back and tortured myself and watched the video ...  6 of 6 I fast forwarded it to the end
http://www.wftv.com/video/23473636/index.html

I could not find the topic of 8 members on Casey's dufense team. 
I did write down at 32:21 - Judge Perry saying " Mr. Bah YICE " instead of Bahyez.  Very noticeable bec there is a pause in court before and after he says it ..
Omg I loved that. At 34:22  Judge Perry questions Bobo and asks for confirmation - Mason is Pro Bono correct? Bobo says Yes.. within a second Mason says back outloud flippant " Old Too". 
These little snarkys are not going to fly very long I don't think. Bobo with his "my 5.00 an Hour wages - set in tone to Judge Perry, as if he is being taken advantage of somehow by the State of Florida " and the last time Bobo correcting Judge Perry on how to say LYON instead of Lyons.. gag that man with a gavel. I can't wait to see Judge Perry throw down.

Good Evening monkeys and guest!

Deenie, during the above posturing by Bozo, when he said that Mason was working pro-bono, Mason chimed in with: " Not away from home" or "only if I am home" Did anyone else catch that?.

No Darla I didn't catch it when I played it just a few mins ago.. I will have to listen again. 


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Post by: Cappuccino on May 07, 2010, 12:26:36 AM
Hey ya everyone, tonight Im posting from our hotel in Roanoke, VA on my new laptop.   Im checking in and read only WFTV's article so far including the new defense's motion basically to reconsider how Judge Strickland ruled on their motions so far...man they have some nerve & the wording was unnecessarily insulting & inflammatory.   I do not see how this approach is going to have them in good graces nor does it establish sufficient legal argument.  I think CJBP is going to get rather fed up with this approach & behavior.

I see that Casey doesnt want to bother coming to court - too bad so sad.  Honestly, I'm amazed how moronic her defense team is to even bring that up again.   On one side of their mouth they are screaming foul that her constitutional rights are getting infringed & then they act as advocates to excuse her from her murder pretrial hearings, what because her extremely busy day pacing the jail cell is being interrupted, she'll miss her Dorito deliver...are you kidding me!   How do they think the majority of the public perceives her indifferent attitude, speaking as one I see it as she is not taking the fact that she is facing the DP seriously at all & appears to know the outcome already despite her defense attempts to change that inevitable outcome.

OK, more later Im gonna listen to as much of the hearing as I can, I'm looking forward to seeing for myself how everyone appeared today.  Not sure I'll get a chance to post again tonight as I have to get some rest & back on the road arriving in Jersey early afternoon.  We're going to AC tomorrow for dinner & a casino evening.


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Post by: Deenie on May 07, 2010, 12:27:38 AM
I just googled shopping
" Mommy's Little Girl - Written by Diane Fanning"  Story of Casey Anthony ..
 Prices range from used 2.00  - 13.99+ new (( 6.99 is the price of Amazon New))
Sellers: not a complete list
    * Amazon.com
    * Barnes & Noble.com
    * Borders
    * Overstock.com
    * Buy.com
    * A1Books
    * Amazon.com UK
    * Barnes & Noble.com
    * Best4buys.com
    * BetterWorldBooks.com
    * Book House US
    * bookwebpages
    * Borders
    * Buy.com
    * DeepDiscount
    * Easy Street Records
    * eBay
    * ecampus.com
    * Goodwill Books
    * LangtonInfo.com
    * Overstock.com
    * Powells.com
    * Tales And Tea
    * TextbookX.com
    * Through The Magic Door

Say it averages out to be sold at 9.00 per copy- for giggles lets say 200k have sold to date - Book put on the market for sale Nov 2009. 1.8 Million right there ..in the hands of Diane Fanning. Easy Money for a case that has yet to go to Trial.
We all know the students of LYON are not just researching " the Case" they are writing and compiling. They too are another Bunch who feel rightfully deserving of something ..for their efforts on the case. Everyone wants their slice of the Pie. Everyone feels that they are Unique and have their own self interest to be served...It would not be shocking that someone not only writes a book yet includes a DVD. At this point anything is possible. 
There is too many people involved not to think anything less.


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Post by: Deenie on May 07, 2010, 12:32:34 AM
Hey ya everyone, tonight Im posting from our hotel in Roanoke, VA on my new laptop.   Im checking in and read only WFTV's article so far including the new defense's motion basically to reconsider how Judge Strickland ruled on their motions so far...man they have some nerve & the wording was unnecessarily insulting & inflammatory.   I do not see how this approach is going to have them in good graces nor does it establish sufficient legal argument.  I think CJBP is going to get rather fed up with this approach & behavior.

I see that Casey doesnt want to bother coming to court - too bad so sad.  Honestly, I'm amazed how moronic her defense team is to even bring that up again.   On one side of their mouth they are screaming foul that her constitutional rights are getting infringed & then they act as advocates to excuse her from her murder pretrial hearings, what because her extremely busy day pacing the jail cell is being interrupted, she'll miss her Dorito deliver...are you kidding me!   How do they think the majority of the public perceives her indifferent attitude, speaking as one I see it as she is not taking the fact that she is facing the DP seriously at all & appears to know the outcome already despite her defense attempts to change that inevitable outcome.

OK, more later Im gonna listen to as much of the hearing as I can, I'm looking forward to seeing for myself how everyone appeared today.  Not sure I'll get a chance to post again tonight as I have to get some rest & back on the road arriving in Jersey early afternoon.  We're going to AC tomorrow for dinner & a casino evening.
Hey Cappy. Good to hear you arrived and your settled in.  You have a lot to take in - the Video of today's Court alone. Today was pretty heavy on the brain. I would leave the motions set today PDF off your agenda this evening .. its just too much.
Look forward to seeing you here soon.  ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: Deenie on May 07, 2010, 01:09:34 AM
If anyone wants to read the Excerpt
Diane Fanning - Mommy's Little Girl
From the publishers site:  http://us.macmillan.com/BookCustomPage.aspx?isbn=9780312365141#Excerpt

I just read it, not so sure what to think.

 


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 07, 2010, 07:09:43 AM
 Good Morning Monkeys.   ::HelloKitty::

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
Taphonomy

Posted on May 6th, 2010 by Valhall


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 07, 2010, 07:13:51 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/5/6/judge_caseys_costs_are_public.html
 Judge: Casey’s Costs Are Public
Friday, May 07, 2010 12:17:15 AM
Reported by Jacqueline Fell

ORLANDO -- How Casey Anthony's defense spends public money will stay public.

Judge Belvin Perry denied a request from Anthony's attorneys to seal all records related to the public funding of her defense.

This was just one headliner from Thursday's hearing.

After the decision to keep public money public, it was, as Judge Perry called it, a battle of the experts, of which experts will be allowed to stay on the case.
Because Anthony has been found indigent, the state will pick up the tab for expert witnesses, and those who are out of state are much more expensive.

This means travel expenses, hotel rooms and maybe rental cars.

Perry asked questions like “Can you use an in-state expert?” “Can you use Skype so they don't have to travel?" "If you found someone closer, what does that do to your case?”

Jose Baez also asked to buy two Pontiac Sunbirds, just like the one that belonged to Anthony.

They wanted to run tests like the state did, where scientists said there are signs of human decomposition in the trunk.

The judge said no way to the $6,000 price tag.

“Since the issues of the novel science, what other alternative types of science there are to do these types experiments I think it's going to become necessary,” Baez said.

"You don't have unfethered access to run and every and any test at taxpayers’ expense. So that request will be denied without prejudice,” Perry said.

The defense can hold a separate hearing later discussing the cars again.

Meanwhile, everyone will be back in court Monday and Tuesday to argue all the outstanding motions in this case.


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Post by: Nut44x4 on May 07, 2010, 08:22:47 AM
Hold on to your wine glasses!
34 pages with exhibits on Motions filed today.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html


I knew it!! I knew this was coming  ::MonkeyNoNo::

~~~~~
O/T ... sort of....
Earlier I read discussion of LKB and her 'transformation make-over'. Well,
Linda K Baden was on JVM Issues last night re: the Yeardley Love murder ...and I didn't recognize her  ::MonkeyEek::
Perhaps someone with video knowledge can get a screen shot of her from the program.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1005/06/ijvm.01.html


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 07, 2010, 09:14:17 AM
Hold on to your wine glasses!
34 pages with exhibits on Motions filed today.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html


I knew it!! I knew this was coming  ::MonkeyNoNo::

~~~~~
O/T ... sort of....
Earlier I read discussion of LKB and her 'transformation make-over'. Well,
Linda K Baden was on JVM Issues last night re: the Yeardley Love murder ...and I didn't recognize her  ::MonkeyEek::
Perhaps someone with video knowledge can get a screen shot of her from the program.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1005/06/ijvm.01.html
She goes through makeovers every couple of years, I didn't see the latest, just hope it is an improvement from her other makeovers.  ::MonkeyTongue:: I agree with you Turbo, Mason is just waiting for the proper time to play let's make a deal.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 07, 2010, 09:24:08 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.   ::HelloKitty::

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
Taphonomy

Posted on May 6th, 2010 by Valhall
Thank-you, is it alright to be more confused on this  ::MonkeyJnBox::


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 09:36:48 AM
Deenie, this is who I think of as her Defense team


Bozo
Jose Garcia
LyonS
Baden
Mason
Mort
Barrett

Kasen - civil



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Post by: jen3560 on May 07, 2010, 09:38:05 AM
Hello Monkeys!

I have some thoughts I'd like to share.  I watched this hearing yesterday on In Session (not live, but the recaps).  They included footage from the Mar 18 indigency hearing when all the attorney's for the defense testified that they don't have any movie/book/licensing deals.

I remember when watching that hearing live back in March, wondering why no one had the foresight to mention in that courtroom that George and Cindy Anthony had trademarked the name Caylee Marie Anthony.  That it is THEM who "own" the rights to anything Caylee.  Remember when they did that?  Before her body was found.

Why did no one - not the Judge, not the JAC, and not the State - ask if the Anthony family had any deals in the works?

For heaven's sake - that bald Jim guy that works for........it's either Good Morning America or the Today Show..can't remember which - is in the courtroom for every single hearing, with G&C.  He was even there for yesterday's hearing, with some blonde woman taking notes next to him.

Why has no one asked about what future monies are in store for the Anthony's because of any media/publishing deal they've made?

I know some of you Monkey's have a direct line to Kathi Belich, and I just thought this might be worth following up on - now that Florida taxpayers have to foot the bill for this defense.

We know that the Anthony's have put every last dime they have (and have been paid) into that defense fund.  Their house wouldn't be in foreclosure if they had been using their money for themselves.  So why were THEY not required to testify at the indigency hearing?


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Post by: Mary on May 07, 2010, 10:28:17 AM
Court tv going over monday & tuesday's motions on Casey's case


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Post by: Monkey with Class on May 07, 2010, 10:35:33 AM
Hello Monkeys!

I have some thoughts I'd like to share.  I watched this hearing yesterday on In Session (not live, but the recaps).  They included footage from the Mar 18 indigency hearing when all the attorney's for the defense testified that they don't have any movie/book/licensing deals.

I remember when watching that hearing live back in March, wondering why no one had the foresight to mention in that courtroom that George and Cindy Anthony had trademarked the name Caylee Marie Anthony.  That it is THEM who "own" the rights to anything Caylee.  Remember when they did that?  Before her body was found.

Why did no one - not the Judge, not the JAC, and not the State - ask if the Anthony family had any deals in the works?

For heaven's sake - that bald Jim guy that works for........it's either Good Morning America or the Today Show..can't remember which - is in the courtroom for every single hearing, with G&C.  He was even there for yesterday's hearing, with some blonde woman taking notes next to him.

Why has no one asked about what future monies are in store for the Anthony's because of any media/publishing deal they've made?

I know some of you Monkey's have a direct line to Kathi Belich, and I just thought this might be worth following up on - now that Florida taxpayers have to foot the bill for this defense.

We know that the Anthony's have put every last dime they have (and have been paid) into that defense fund.  Their house wouldn't be in foreclosure if they had been using their money for themselves.  So why were THEY not required to testify at the indigency hearing?

Very good point Jen!

Kathi Belich would have a field day with this story I am sure.

Go get'em Kathi


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 10:50:24 AM
Hello Monkeys!

I have some thoughts I'd like to share.  I watched this hearing yesterday on In Session (not live, but the recaps).  They included footage from the Mar 18 indigency hearing when all the attorney's for the defense testified that they don't have any movie/book/licensing deals.

I remember when watching that hearing live back in March, wondering why no one had the foresight to mention in that courtroom that George and Cindy Anthony had trademarked the name Caylee Marie Anthony.  That it is THEM who "own" the rights to anything Caylee.  Remember when they did that?  Before her body was found.

Why did no one - not the Judge, not the JAC, and not the State - ask if the Anthony family had any deals in the works?

For heaven's sake - that bald Jim guy that works for........it's either Good Morning America or the Today Show..can't remember which - is in the courtroom for every single hearing, with G&C.  He was even there for yesterday's hearing, with some blonde woman taking notes next to him.

Why has no one asked about what future monies are in store for the Anthony's because of any media/publishing deal they've made?

I know some of you Monkey's have a direct line to Kathi Belich, and I just thought this might be worth following up on - now that Florida taxpayers have to foot the bill for this defense.

We know that the Anthony's have put every last dime they have (and have been paid) into that defense fund.  Their house wouldn't be in foreclosure if they had been using their money for themselves.  So why were THEY not required to testify at the indigency hearing?

Hi jen......To my knowledge the 's have NOT put anything in the defense fund. they quite their jobs and sin-sin has been collecting disability (I don't know if she is still collecting it or not) I don't believe their foreclosure has anything to do with them putting any monies in a defense  fund. The A's collected, IMO, a LOT OF money from the general public at their tents and via the mail. We know georgie boy was collecting money for women..........we know they collected money from the media........we know they stopped paying their mortgage last year....we know they went on a cruise, got tattoos, georgie got earrings.  They send their murdering daughter about $100 a month on average.  I do not remember reading or hearing anything about them contributing to the defense fund..............but I am sure I have not heard and read about it all.....so please share with us if you have knowledge of them contributing....


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Post by: Nut44x4 on May 07, 2010, 10:52:16 AM
Indeed......good questions


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Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 07, 2010, 11:09:38 AM
In Session (Tru TV) has Lyon on about the death penalty in hearing the day Caylee was found.  Interesting to listen to now, knowing what we know.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 07, 2010, 11:18:06 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20004299-504083.html

May 7, 2010 10:49 AM
Casey Anthony Judge Picks Expert Witnesses for Defense

ORLANDO, Fla. (CBS/WKMG/AP) The trial of Casey Anthony, who is charged with murdering her daughter, will be a "battle of the experts" because of circumstantial evidence in the case, a judge said Thursday, as he picked which specialists defense attorneys could hire with public funds.

The 24-year-old mother has been declared indigent, allowing public money to pay for expert witnesses and costs in addition to attorney fees.

During Thursday's hearing, Chief Judge Belvin Perry denied requests to spend public money on four expert witnesses and forensic tests requested by Anthony's defense attorneys. The judge nixed a trace evidence expert, a cell phone expert, a jury consultant and money for a car to replicate evidence found in Anthony's car.

Perry approved spending public money on 10 other experts including a bug expert, a forensic anthropologist, a forensic botanist and famed forensics expert Henry Lee, who has worked on the Phil Spector and JonBenet Ramsey cases. Those experts can give opinions on body decomposition based on plant growth and insects found around a body.

The judge denied a request from Anthony's attorneys to seal all records related to the public funding of her defense. The defense attorneys had argued their release would jeopardize her right to a fair trial by revealing defense strategy.
Rachel Fugate, an attorney for The Orlando Sentinel, told a judge that the request was too broad.

Anthony has pleaded not guilty to murdering her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee, and said a baby sitter kidnapped the toddler. Her trial is set to start in May 2011.

Caylee disappeared in June 2008 but she wasn't reported missing until almost a month later. Her remains were found in December 2008 in woods not far from the home she lived with her mother and grandparents.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 07, 2010, 11:43:49 AM
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/
Thursday, May 6, 2010
Long Hearing, Lots Accomplished: The murder trial of Casey Anthony.


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Post by: darla on May 07, 2010, 11:45:44 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and guest!

Hope all are enjoying this beautiful Friday morning. I have a question? All of the hearings are leading up to a death penalty trial.....Why is Bozo  still listed as lead attorney? He is not a death penalty qualified attorney......Does that mean he can stay as lead attorney up until she is convicted and then Mason or big Al takes over?


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Post by: Curly on May 07, 2010, 11:50:23 AM
Has it been mentioned anywhere why the A's weren't in court yesterday?
I didn't see Conman there, although I thought I saw someone in a wheel chair, but this person had a full head of hair.

I agree with you, Sunny. It's never been said that the A's have contributed a dime to the defense. I don't really know what their reasoning for allowing their home (that Georgette swore they would never lose) to go into foreclosure, but as far as I'm aware, it's not because they were contributing to the defense coffer.


I can't comprehend why Bozo thinks that Florida laws should be changed to accommodate his client, yet he asks over and over again.

I'm not so sure they are going to try to plead her out. They seem intent on spending whatever monies the state of FL. will allow them. IF their plan is to plead her after utilizing all this money, they should be made to reimburse the state. If they plan to throw her on the mercy of the court, they surely have the wrong judge. Not only does he not have a problem with the death penalty, but I read someplace that he was front and center at the execution of someone he sentenced to death.

 Personally, I have always been against the death penalty, but when I listen to the arguments of Casey's defense, I just want to do the opposite of what they say. If they presented in a way that didn't fashion their client as a victim, and if they stopped their incessant whining, and stopped trying to seek sympathy for themselves for not being allowed this and that, their arguments would be tolerable. If they turn ME off (a card carrying liberal), I can only imagine how a jury will react to them.


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Post by: Babybear on May 07, 2010, 12:06:36 PM
Brandi I thought that photo of LKB was fake and that the twitter was fake - It is " her" twitter - the picture matches her Bio and written media on the Huffington Post.
I don't know who she is kidding ..she does not look like that photo. noooo Maybe 20 yrs ago.
I guess if it makes her Smile ..that's what matters. 


Kind of misleading to post an old photo like that. That's all I meant.

*shrug*

Hi Brandi and all---It might make her smile but it makes me laugh.  I'll never forget that lace-up-the-back black dress thingy she wore in court.  I don't know if there is a course in law school on how to dress professionally for court, but there should be and she should take it, as well as Ms. Lyon.  Clothes do make the man, or in this case the woman.  Many, if not most, people make a judgement on a first impression. If a person is not dressed appropriately for the occasion, it reflects badly on them, IMO.  Perhaps I shouldn't say this, but both Ms. Baden and Ms. Lyon look slovenly, as if they don't care about their appearance.  I think you must look your best to do your best.

hi BB........I wondered where you were ::MonkeyDance::

I 'heard' from several female attorney's in Houston that some female attorney's felt like they bonded' with jurors better if they dressed down as opposed to dressing up. Fortunately none of our female attorney's felt that way. They were stylish and professional just as  Linda Drane Burdick.  Personally both Lyons and Baden looks like old bar gals to me...JMO

HiSunny  I've been around--avoiding "War and Peace."  Tolstoy is long and boring.
 ::MonkeyDevil::  But that's probably just me. I've been booted off a lot--feel like the "Lost Colony."

I'm sure the attorneys you talked to about what constitutes professional attire in a courtroom are correct--after, all, attorneys know a lot more about it than I !!! But I would resent it if I were on a jury and felt an attorney were "Dressing down," for me.  But I am a stickler about it. I couldn't be on this jury anyway because when asked, I have to say. "I think she's guilty as sin and I would never change my mind no matter what you say." 

I did watch the hearing on TruTV.  I was impressed with Judge Perry's decisiveness and his ability to immediately cite applicable laws and precedents.  He certainly did his homework.  Judge Strickland was an affable fellow but I feel he gave Baez et al much too much leeway and did not demand his court be respected as he should have done.  It amused me to see at the last hearing Cindy and George had dispensed with the gum, or maybe it was hidden in their mouths somewhere.  I'm sure that someone told them when they were checked through security that they could not chew gum, use cellphones or swig from their ever-constant water bottles in Judge Perry's courtroom.  I think that rather than give up these disgusting habits even  for a couple of hours, they decided not to play.  I wonder if there is an intervention group devoted to ridding someone of gum addiction.

Casey's lawyers keep saying she deserves a fair trial.  IMO she deserves nothing. She is, however, entitled to a fair trial.  This entire family is a waste of space.


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Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 07, 2010, 12:28:17 PM
Someone refresh my memory please....
Mike Brooks is on "In Session" now talking about the chloroform levels in KC's trunk. He is saying there was ALSO a rag with "supposedly" chloroform on it.

I don't remember reading about a rag found in the trunk in discovery......anyone else ?


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 12:35:36 PM
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/
Thursday, May 6, 2010
Long Hearing, Lots Accomplished: The murder trial of Casey Anthony.

thanks trim.....for anyone who didn't see the hearing this lays it out clean and clear. I missed the beginning of the hearing and didn't hear this

On the defense side were Jose Baez and Michelle Medina. Cheney Mason joined the defense team later in the hearing.

so who is this Michelle Medina?  Another new attorney? 


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 12:37:23 PM
Good Morning Monkeys and guest!

Hope all are enjoying this beautiful Friday morning. I have a question? All of the hearings are leading up to a death penalty trial.....Why is Bozo  still listed as lead attorney? He is not a death penalty qualified attorney......Does that mean he can stay as lead attorney up until she is convicted and then Mason or big Al takes over?

I believe he can technically stay as lead attorney as long as there is a death qualified attorney on board.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 07, 2010, 12:38:15 PM
Someone refresh my memory please....
Mike Brooks is on "In Session" now talking about the chloroform levels in KC's trunk. He is saying there was ALSO a rag with "supposedly" chloroform on it.

I don't remember reading about a rag found in the trunk in discovery......anyone else ?
I don't remember that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 07, 2010, 12:39:53 PM
Someone refresh my memory please....
Mike Brooks is on "In Session" now talking about the chloroform levels in KC's trunk. He is saying there was ALSO a rag with "supposedly" chloroform on it.

I don't remember reading about a rag found in the trunk in discovery......anyone else ?
SEEME~  wow, I don't remember that if that's accurate, that's a smoking gun in my opinion.  Maybe that's how Ashton was able to give that last few moments of Caylee's life explanation with such convincing authority.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 07, 2010, 12:40:05 PM
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/
Thursday, May 6, 2010
Long Hearing, Lots Accomplished: The murder trial of Casey Anthony.

thanks trim.....for anyone who didn't see the hearing this lays it out clean and clear. I missed the beginning of the hearing and didn't hear this

On the defense side were Jose Baez and Michelle Medina. Cheney Mason joined the defense team later in the hearing.

so who is this Michelle Medina?  Another new attorney? 
I don't know, but what I do know is that anyone in the position that Casey is in, and being indigent, it makes me ill that this chick has people falling all over her to help. While others are lucky to get one public defender.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 12:40:39 PM
Has it been mentioned anywhere why the A's weren't in court yesterday?
I didn't see Conman there, although I thought I saw someone in a wheel chair, but this person had a full head of hair.

I agree with you, Sunny. It's never been said that the A's have contributed a dime to the defense. I don't really know what their reasoning for allowing their home (that Georgette swore they would never lose) to go into foreclosure, but as far as I'm aware, it's not because they were contributing to the defense coffer.


I can't comprehend why Bozo thinks that Florida laws should be changed to accommodate his client, yet he asks over and over again.

I'm not so sure they are going to try to plead her out. They seem intent on spending whatever monies the state of FL. will allow them. IF their plan is to plead her after utilizing all this money, they should be made to reimburse the state. If they plan to throw her on the mercy of the court, they surely have the wrong judge. Not only does he not have a problem with the death penalty, but I read someplace that he was front and center at the execution of someone he sentenced to death.

 Personally, I have always been against the death penalty, but when I listen to the arguments of Casey's defense, I just want to do the opposite of what they say. If they presented in a way that didn't fashion their client as a victim, and if they stopped their incessant whining, and stopped trying to seek sympathy for themselves for not being allowed this and that, their arguments would be tolerable. If they turn ME off (a card carrying liberal), I can only imagine how a jury will react to them.

Hi Curly.........good post.  Yes, JP did attend an execution...I read it as well.    I'll bet the DUHfence are kicking themselves daily for ever asking for JS to recuse himself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 07, 2010, 12:41:53 PM
Good Morning Monkeys and guest!

Hope all are enjoying this beautiful Friday morning. I have a question? All of the hearings are leading up to a death penalty trial.....Why is Bozo  still listed as lead attorney? He is not a death penalty qualified attorney......Does that mean he can stay as lead attorney up until she is convicted and then Mason or big Al takes over?

I believe he can technically stay as lead attorney as long as there is a death qualified attorney on board.

I think it could be compared to Gilligan running the ship while the Capt. snoozed in his bunk all afternoon!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 07, 2010, 12:48:31 PM
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/
Thursday, May 6, 2010
Long Hearing, Lots Accomplished: The murder trial of Casey Anthony.

thanks trim.....for anyone who didn't see the hearing this lays it out clean and clear. I missed the beginning of the hearing and didn't hear this

On the defense side were Jose Baez and Michelle Medina. Cheney Mason joined the defense team later in the hearing.



so who is this Michelle Medina?  Another new attorney? 


Michelle Medina is listed on this motion....page 6.
Michelle Medina, Esquire
The Baez Law Firm
Simpson Rd.
Kissimmee, FL

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23461818/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 07, 2010, 12:49:30 PM
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/
Thursday, May 6, 2010
Long Hearing, Lots Accomplished: The murder trial of Casey Anthony.

thanks trim.....for anyone who didn't see the hearing this lays it out clean and clear. I missed the beginning of the hearing and didn't hear this

On the defense side were Jose Baez and Michelle Medina. Cheney Mason joined the defense team later in the hearing.

so who is this Michelle Medina?  Another new attorney? 

at the end of this motion is lists her as an Esquire in the Baez Law Firm right under where Bobo signed

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23461818/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 07, 2010, 12:51:37 PM
Good Morning Monkeys and guest!

Hope all are enjoying this beautiful Friday morning. I have a question? All of the hearings are leading up to a death penalty trial.....Why is Bozo  still listed as lead attorney? He is not a death penalty qualified attorney......Does that mean he can stay as lead attorney up until she is convicted and then Mason or big Al takes over?

I believe he can technically stay as lead attorney as long as there is a death qualified attorney on board.



I think it could be compared to Gilligan running the ship while the Capt. snoozed in his bunk all afternoon!



Thanks Sunny.....And Mizjay, I just love your comparison.....Gilligan just seems to fit. lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 07, 2010, 12:52:33 PM
Someone refresh my memory please....
Mike Brooks is on "In Session" now talking about the chloroform levels in KC's trunk. He is saying there was ALSO a rag with "supposedly" chloroform on it.

I don't remember reading about a rag found in the trunk in discovery......anyone else ?
I don't remember that.

Thanks, norose......I know I have a few senior moments/brainfarts with all this discovery to remember, but I don't think I would have forgotten a rag with chloroform in the skank's trunk.....no way ::piggy::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on May 07, 2010, 12:53:23 PM
Find a Lawyer
Michelle Medina

Sections:  Family Law
Real Property Probate and Trust Law
Trial Lawyers
Young Lawyers Division

http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/97596f77aec53801052576d9006cc022/b3bc3647c99777ba852575a8004c6d2f


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 12:55:54 PM


Hi Brandi and all---It might make her smile but it makes me laugh.  I'll never forget that lace-up-the-back black dress thingy she wore in court.  I don't know if there is a course in law school on how to dress professionally for court, but there should be and she should take it, as well as Ms. Lyon.  Clothes do make the man, or in this case the woman.  Many, if not most, people make a judgement on a first impression. If a person is not dressed appropriately for the occasion, it reflects badly on them, IMO.  Perhaps I shouldn't say this, but both Ms. Baden and Ms. Lyon look slovenly, as if they don't care about their appearance.  I think you must look your best to do your best.

hi BB........I wondered where you were ::MonkeyDance::

I 'heard' from several female attorney's in Houston that some female attorney's felt like they bonded' with jurors better if they dressed down as opposed to dressing up. Fortunately none of our female attorney's felt that way. They were stylish and professional just as  Linda Drane Burdick.  Personally both Lyons and Baden looks like old bar gals to me...JMO

HiSunny  I've been around--avoiding "War and Peace."  Tolstoy is long and boring.
 ::MonkeyDevil::  But that's probably just me. I've been booted off a lot--feel like the "Lost Colony."

I'm sure the attorneys you talked to about what constitutes professional attire in a courtroom are correct--after, all, attorneys know a lot more about it than I !!! But I would resent it if I were on a jury and felt an attorney were "Dressing down," for me.  But I am a stickler about it. I couldn't be on this jury anyway because when asked, I have to say. "I think she's guilty as sin and I would never change my mind no matter what you say." 

I did watch the hearing on TruTV.  I was impressed with Judge Perry's decisiveness and his ability to immediately cite applicable laws and precedents.  He certainly did his homework.  Judge Strickland was an affable fellow but I feel he gave Baez et al much too much leeway and did not demand his court be respected as he should have done.  It amused me to see at the last hearing Cindy and George had dispensed with the gum, or maybe it was hidden in their mouths somewhere.  I'm sure that someone told them when they were checked through security that they could not chew gum, use cellphones or swig from their ever-constant water bottles in Judge Perry's courtroom.  I think that rather than give up these disgusting habits even  for a couple of hours, they decided not to play.  I wonder if there is an intervention group devoted to ridding someone of gum addiction.

Casey's lawyers keep saying she deserves a fair trial.  IMO she deserves nothing. She is, however, entitled to a fair trial.  This entire family is a waste of space.

LOL...it's safe for a couple days (I hope) LOL........I agree what she deserves and what she is entitled to....totally different.......I know I want her to have a fair trial because I don't want any chance of a reversal or mistrial or anything else....when the verdict is read I want it to stick.....GUILTY!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Green Eyes on May 07, 2010, 01:05:17 PM
Someone refresh my memory please....
Mike Brooks is on "In Session" now talking about the chloroform levels in KC's trunk. He is saying there was ALSO a rag with "supposedly" chloroform on it.

I don't remember reading about a rag found in the trunk in discovery......anyone else ?
I don't remember that.

Thanks, norose......I know I have a few senior moments/brainfarts with all this discovery to remember, but I don't think I would have forgotten a rag with chloroform in the skank's trunk.....no way ::piggy::

Seeme & NRCG the only thing I remember is they found was a paper towel or something like that with decomposition it. I can't think of the poper word they used in the report.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 07, 2010, 01:06:59 PM
Funny how Spindy after the hearing with the new Judge (Perry) states how much more respectable the courtroom is with him and she was pleased.....yet doesn't show up for the next hearing.

I still think the reason (for the Anthony's absence) is the possibility of the "secret expert" Bozo wanted in-camera would come out in court, if Perry denied in-camera.....area of expertise being sexual abuse. I just don't know what other type of expert Bozo would feel he couldn't disclose. A psych expert, but that's no shocker that Bozo would try a mental illness defense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 07, 2010, 01:16:32 PM
Someone refresh my memory please....
Mike Brooks is on "In Session" now talking about the chloroform levels in KC's trunk. He is saying there was ALSO a rag with "supposedly" chloroform on it.

I don't remember reading about a rag found in the trunk in discovery......anyone else ?
I don't remember that.

Thanks, norose......I know I have a few senior moments/brainfarts with all this discovery to remember, but I don't think I would have forgotten a rag with chloroform in the skank's trunk.....no way ::piggy::

Seeme & NRCG the only thing I remember is they found was a paper towel or something like that with decomposition it. I can't think of the poper word they used in the report.

Right Green Eyes.....and maybe Mike Brooks is talking about the paper towels, but he did say RAG.
Does anyone remember if chloroform was found on paper towels? The only thing on the paper towels that I recall was Adipocere/ grave wax.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 01:16:32 PM
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/
Thursday, May 6, 2010
Long Hearing, Lots Accomplished: The murder trial of Casey Anthony.

thanks trim.....for anyone who didn't see the hearing this lays it out clean and clear. I missed the beginning of the hearing and didn't hear this

On the defense side were Jose Baez and Michelle Medina. Cheney Mason joined the defense team later in the hearing.



so who is this Michelle Medina?  Another new attorney? 


Michelle Medina is listed on this motion....page 6.
Michelle Medina, Esquire
The Baez Law Firm
Simpson Rd.
Kissimmee, FL

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23461818/detail.html

thanks seeme....I was just googling her..so she is a BOZO flunky ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 01:17:07 PM
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/
Thursday, May 6, 2010
Long Hearing, Lots Accomplished: The murder trial of Casey Anthony.

thanks trim.....for anyone who didn't see the hearing this lays it out clean and clear. I missed the beginning of the hearing and didn't hear this

On the defense side were Jose Baez and Michelle Medina. Cheney Mason joined the defense team later in the hearing.

so who is this Michelle Medina?  Another new attorney? 

at the end of this motion is lists her as an Esquire in the Baez Law Firm right under where Bobo signed

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23461818/detail.html

thanks NR


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 07, 2010, 01:17:35 PM
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/
Thursday, May 6, 2010
Long Hearing, Lots Accomplished: The murder trial of Casey Anthony.

thanks trim.....for anyone who didn't see the hearing this lays it out clean and clear. I missed the beginning of the hearing and didn't hear this

On the defense side were Jose Baez and Michelle Medina. Cheney Mason joined the defense team later in the hearing.



so who is this Michelle Medina?  Another new attorney? 


Michelle Medina is listed on this motion....page 6.
Michelle Medina, Esquire
The Baez Law Firm
Simpson Rd.
Kissimmee, FL

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23461818/detail.html

thanks seeme....I was just googling her..so she is a BOZO flunky ::MonkeyDevil::

EXACTLY sunny! ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 01:19:38 PM
Someone refresh my memory please....
Mike Brooks is on "In Session" now talking about the chloroform levels in KC's trunk. He is saying there was ALSO a rag with "supposedly" chloroform on it.

I don't remember reading about a rag found in the trunk in discovery......anyone else ?
I don't remember that.

Thanks, norose......I know I have a few senior moments/brainfarts with all this discovery to remember, but I don't think I would have forgotten a rag with chloroform in the skank's trunk.....no way ::piggy::

Seeme & NRCG the only thing I remember is they found was a paper towel or something like that with decomposition it. I can't think of the poper word they used in the report.

Right Green Eyes.....and maybe Mike Brooks is talking about the paper towels, but he did say RAG.
Does anyone remember if chloroform was found on paper towels? The only thing on the paper towels that I recall was Adipocere/ grave wax.

Mike Brooks often gets his facts wrong......the only thing I remember is the same thing you do seeme....the grave wax on a paper towel


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 07, 2010, 01:26:12 PM
Someone refresh my memory please....
Mike Brooks is on "In Session" now talking about the chloroform levels in KC's trunk. He is saying there was ALSO a rag with "supposedly" chloroform on it.

I don't remember reading about a rag found in the trunk in discovery......anyone else ?
I don't remember that.

Thanks, norose......I know I have a few senior moments/brainfarts with all this discovery to remember, but I don't think I would have forgotten a rag with chloroform in the skank's trunk.....no way ::piggy::
I forget a lot of things, but for me also, that I wouldn't forget. And now she has another lawyer, isn't she lucky. I'm beyond livid with all this, special treatment, and what for, because of her lies, and because she has parents that need muzzles, this case got out of control with all that. This case is no different then hundreds of others, and it makes me ill that it has spiraled into this. Please, already plead her out and stop this insanity.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 07, 2010, 01:33:26 PM
Michelle Medina
Member in Good Standing   Eligible to practice in Florida

             
ID Number:   -   64380
Address:      The Baez Law Firm
522 Simpson Rd
Kissimmee, Florida 347444458
United States
Phone:   407.705.2626
Fax:      407.705.2625
E-Mail:   michelle@baezlawfirm.com
            
         
         
County:      Osceola
Circuit:      9
Admitted:      04/21/2009
         
http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/97596f77aec53801052576d9006cc022/b3bc3647c99777ba852575a8004c6d2f
         
         
         

         
         
         
   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 01:35:55 PM
Michelle Medina
Member in Good Standing   Eligible to practice in Florida

             
ID Number:   -   64380
Address:      The Baez Law Firm
522 Simpson Rd
Kissimmee, Florida 347444458
United States
Phone:   407.705.2626
Fax:      407.705.2625
E-Mail:   michelle@baezlawfirm.com
            
         
         
County:      Osceola
Circuit:      9
Admitted:      04/21/2009
         
http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/97596f77aec53801052576d9006cc022/b3bc3647c99777ba852575a8004c6d2f      
   

A baby attorney who thinks she is going to make a name for herself.......well she might...but the name(s) may not be what she is hoping for ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 07, 2010, 01:41:31 PM
Funny how Spindy after the hearing with the new Judge (Perry) states how much more respectable the courtroom is with him and she was pleased.....yet doesn't show up for the next hearing.

I still think the reason (for the Anthony's absence) is the possibility of the "secret expert" Bozo wanted in-camera would come out in court, if Perry denied in-camera.....area of expertise being sexual abuse. I just don't know what other type of expert Bozo would feel he couldn't disclose. A psych expert, but that's no shocker that Bozo would try a mental illness defense.
I agree, it just has to be a psych expert.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 07, 2010, 01:50:37 PM
Someone refresh my memory please....
Mike Brooks is on "In Session" now talking about the chloroform levels in KC's trunk. He is saying there was ALSO a rag with "supposedly" chloroform on it.

I don't remember reading about a rag found in the trunk in discovery......anyone else ?

I do not remember that.   ::MonkeyCool:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 07, 2010, 01:51:32 PM
Funny how Spindy after the hearing with the new Judge (Perry) states how much more respectable the courtroom is with him and she was pleased.....yet doesn't show up for the next hearing.

I still think the reason (for the Anthony's absence) is the possibility of the "secret expert" Bozo wanted in-camera would come out in court, if Perry denied in-camera.....area of expertise being sexual abuse. I just don't know what other type of expert Bozo would feel he couldn't disclose. A psych expert, but that's no shocker that Bozo would try a mental illness defense.
I agree, it just has to be a psych expert.

I think so too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Love2Read on May 07, 2010, 02:02:04 PM
If anyone wants to read the Excerpt
Diane Fanning - Mommy's Little Girl
From the publishers site:  http://us.macmillan.com/BookCustomPage.aspx?isbn=9780312365141#Excerpt

I just read it, not so sure what to think.

 

Good afternoon, Monkeys.

Thank you Deenie for that link, I had forgotten about that book.
I read the excerpt and I think I will read the book, but I will check it out from the library, I will not give one cent of my own money to anyone that is trying to make money off of this dead child.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 07, 2010, 02:31:18 PM
Michelle Medina
Member in Good Standing   Eligible to practice in Florida

             
ID Number:   -   64380
Address:      The Baez Law Firm
522 Simpson Rd
Kissimmee, Florida 347444458
United States
Phone:   407.705.2626
Fax:      407.705.2625
E-Mail:   michelle@baezlawfirm.com
            
         
         
County:      Osceola
Circuit:      9
Admitted:      04/21/2009
         
http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/97596f77aec53801052576d9006cc022/b3bc3647c99777ba852575a8004c6d2f
         
         
         

         
         
         
   

Thanks Seeme.Now we have the last name.   ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on May 07, 2010, 02:49:00 PM
Funny how Spindy after the hearing with the new Judge (Perry) states how much more respectable the courtroom is with him and she was pleased.....yet doesn't show up for the next hearing.

I still think the reason (for the Anthony's absence) is the possibility of the "secret expert" Bozo wanted in-camera would come out in court, if Perry denied in-camera.....area of expertise being sexual abuse. I just don't know what other type of expert Bozo would feel he couldn't disclose. A psych expert, but that's no shocker that Bozo would try a mental illness defense.
I agree, it just has to be a psych expert.

Perhaps the A's are willing to do anything to save their precious KC, including allowing the public and future jury members to believe that they did abuse her?   Maybe they won't show up in court anymore so they don't appear as loving parents who support her.

.......  or maybe they just hate the new judge.     ::MonkeyJnBox::   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 07, 2010, 02:54:08 PM
Funny how Spindy after the hearing with the new Judge (Perry) states how much more respectable the courtroom is with him and she was pleased.....yet doesn't show up for the next hearing.

I still think the reason (for the Anthony's absence) is the possibility of the "secret expert" Bozo wanted in-camera would come out in court, if Perry denied in-camera.....area of expertise being sexual abuse. I just don't know what other type of expert Bozo would feel he couldn't disclose. A psych expert, but that's no shocker that Bozo would try a mental illness defense.
I agree, it just has to be a psych expert.

Perhaps the A's are willing to do anything to save their precious KC, including allowing the public and future jury members to believe that they did abuse her?   Maybe they won't show up in court anymore so they don't appear as loving parents who support her.

.......  or maybe they just hate the new judge.     ::MonkeyJnBox::   
I believe they will do anything to get Casey off, anything  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sister on May 07, 2010, 03:18:32 PM
Think I may have figured out why Judge Perry spent time talking about the wonderful qualities of the Jar.
One area of an appeal is always incompetent counsel.  My personal feelings is bozo fits that bill exactly.  However, with His Honor pointing out the competency of Mason, such grounds would fall on their face.  So the Jar may have gotten a little puffed up yesterday with the accolades, but His Honor doesn't say anything just to hear himself talk -- JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 03:50:14 PM
Think I may have figured out why Judge Perry spent time talking about the wonderful qualities of the Jar.
One area of an appeal is always incompetent counsel.  My personal feelings is bozo fits that bill exactly.  However, with His Honor pointing out the competency of Mason, such grounds would fall on their face.  So the Jar may have gotten a little puffed up yesterday with the accolades, but His Honor doesn't say anything just to hear himself talk -- JMO

Sister......you might be absolutely correct!  I agree JBP doesn't speak without purpose ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 07, 2010, 04:00:52 PM
Good Afternoon All
Wesh just reported - http://www.wesh.com/news/23488034/detail.html

In response to all the filings after the Hearing yesterday -

Death Penalty is back on the Table -


ORLANDO, Fla. --
In responses filed with the Orange County clerk of courts on Thursday, prosecutors in the Casey Anthony case said the aggravating circumstances it will prove to obtain the death penalty for Anthony are obvious.

The filing came in response to a motion by Anthony's defense team requesting the state be compelled to outline which circumstances it's going to argue.

Under state law, there are 15 so-called aggravating circumstances. At least one of them must be proven for a defendant to receive the death penalty.

In his response, state prosecutor Jeff Ashton said nine of the 15 circumstances clearly do not apply to Casey. He then went on to point out four that he said clearly apply to the case.

They are, as written in state law:

    * The capital felony involved aggravated child abuse
    * It was premeditated
    * The victim was under the age of 12
    * The defendant was the victim's parent

There are two other aggravating circumstances the state may or may not try to prove. One of them is that the defendant benefited financially from the victim's death. The other is that the alleged slaying was especially heinous, atrocious or cruel.


Defense attorney Richard Hornsby said he believes the state has already tipped its hand in regard to claiming Caylee's murder was especially cruel.

"It's my belief that Jeff Ashton has already put the defense and entire public on notice that he's going to try to prove that by that presentation in court about how the duct tape may have been placed over Caylee's mouth and how she might have seen the eyes of her killer as she took her last breath," Hornsby said.

In a second filing, the state requested what Hornsby called a "tit for tat." Prosecutor Jeff Ashton asked that the court compel the defense to reveal the mitigating circumstances it will try to prove to argue against the death penalty.

In other filings on Thursday, Anthony's attorneys asked Judge Belvin Perry to reconsider previous rulings made by Judge Stan Strickland, who stepped down from the case in April.

The defense specifically wants Perry to provide it access to George Anthony's grand jury testimony, as well as records from the volunteer search group Texas EquuSearch.

---
Caylee  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 07, 2010, 04:08:57 PM
Good Afternoon All
Wesh just reported - http://www.wesh.com/news/23488034/detail.html

In response to all the filings after the Hearing yesterday -

Death Penalty is back on the Table -


ORLANDO, Fla. --
In responses filed with the Orange County clerk of courts on Thursday, prosecutors in the Casey Anthony case said the aggravating circumstances it will prove to obtain the death penalty for Anthony are obvious.

The filing came in response to a motion by Anthony's defense team requesting the state be compelled to outline which circumstances it's going to argue.

Under state law, there are 15 so-called aggravating circumstances. At least one of them must be proven for a defendant to receive the death penalty.

In his response, state prosecutor Jeff Ashton said nine of the 15 circumstances clearly do not apply to Casey. He then went on to point out four that he said clearly apply to the case.

They are, as written in state law:

    * The capital felony involved aggravated child abuse
    * It was premeditated
    * The victim was under the age of 12
    * The defendant was the victim's parent

There are two other aggravating circumstances the state may or may not try to prove. One of them is that the defendant benefited financially from the victim's death. The other is that the alleged slaying was especially heinous, atrocious or cruel.

Defense attorney Richard Hornsby said he believes the state has already tipped its hand in regard to claiming Caylee's murder was especially cruel.

"It's my belief that Jeff Ashton has already put the defense and entire public on notice that he's going to try to prove that by that presentation in court about how the duct tape may have been placed over Caylee's mouth and how she might have seen the eyes of her killer as she took her last breath," Hornsby said.

In a second filing, the state requested what Hornsby called a "tit for tat." Prosecutor Jeff Ashton asked that the court compel the defense to reveal the mitigating circumstances it will try to prove to argue against the death penalty.

In other filings on Thursday, Anthony's attorneys asked Judge Belvin Perry to reconsider previous rulings made by Judge Stan Strickland, who stepped down from the case in April.

The defense specifically wants Perry to provide it access to George Anthony's grand jury testimony, as well as records from the volunteer search group Texas EquuSearch.

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Caylee  ::MonkeyAngel::


Well we all know she got $200,000 . So that makes 5 aggravating circumstances right there.
Thanks Deenie for posting this.

And another question...Why is Bozo so hell bent on getting that tape that Joe Jordan recorded? He should already know what was said on it, Right? Bozo is running sceered. lol


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Post by: darla on May 07, 2010, 04:10:53 PM
And we all know the murder was cruel and atrocious. So that makes 6


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Post by: Deenie on May 07, 2010, 04:22:04 PM
And we all know the murder was cruel and atrocious. So that makes 6

I agree 6. I don't understand this Joe Jordan  thing either. As it was speculated that woman " former volunteer" of TES - sorry having a brain lapse- who basically lied. She said she was at the site where Caylee was found " Caylee was not there" when she was at Blanchard Park - with everyone else. Michelle? cant think of her name. Any way that she was a Plant *Possibly by the defense/ Anthony's and Kidfinders ... she is part of the Joe Jordan testimony.  The last time in court with Judge Strickland, Baez said he was waiting for Joe Jordan ....yet he never showed. Something is very fishy about the " Joe Jordan" witness ... My brain is not working I apologize.



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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 07, 2010, 04:22:21 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/05/casey-anthony-jose-baez-in-baffling-performance-outside-courthouse.html

Casey Anthony: Jose Baez in baffling performance outside courthouse
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Jose Baez, WESH — posted by halboedeker on May, 7 2010 4:11 PM
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Jose Baez had a pretty good day in court yesterday as Casey Anthony’s attorney.  But you wouldn’t have known that afterward when he walked away from reporters outside the courthouse.

It was a baffling moment in this long-running Anthony saga.  Baez asked reporters not to follow him to his car and put that request specifically to WFTV-Channel 9’s hard-driving Kathi Belich.

She wouldn’t agree to his request, so Baez walked away. From everyone.

The result: Reporters followed him in a pack, but he made no comment of value.

It was simply strange. Why would Baez miss a chance to cite his successes in front of Chief Judge Belvin Perry? Why would Baez let his reactions to Belich color his dealings with the press corps? (She’s just trying to do her job, and she doesn’t represent the entire media.) Why would Baez give his detractors more ammunition to complain about his style?

Maybe next time Baez should let defense attorney Cheney Mason handle the questions. Mason knows how to handle pressure and pesky reporters. They can come in handy when you have a good story to tell.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 07, 2010, 04:28:20 PM
And we all know the murder was cruel and atrocious. So that makes 6

I agree 6. I don't understand this Joe Jordan  thing either. As it was speculated that woman " former volunteer" of TES - sorry having a brain lapse- who basically lied. She said she was at the site where Caylee was found " Caylee was not there" when she was at Blanchard Park - with everyone else. Michelle? cant think of her name. Any way that she was a Plant *Possibly by the defense/ Anthony's and Kidfinders ... she is part of the Joe Jordan testimony.  The last time in court with Judge Strickland, Baez said he was waiting for Joe Jordan ....yet he never showed. Something is very fishy about the " Joe Jordan" witness ... My brain is not working I apologize.


Thank-you for the above article. Her name is Laura B something, I can't remember her last name, sorry. I don't trust either one of them Jordan or Laura.


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Post by: Deenie on May 07, 2010, 04:28:53 PM
I wonder if it is Smoke and Mirrors for the 100th time
That Baez is stepping back from the media, yet still using his Donkey Strut in front of the Cameras ( to remain visible as Lead Atty ) and Mason has already taken over. That they between the two  have made an agreement to slowly phase Baez out. Since his " vacation" is coming soon. The two weeks he is taking off in June. Something is up.

 ::MonkeyTongue::


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Post by: Sister on May 07, 2010, 04:28:53 PM
Mort Smith (?) interviewed Jordan with Jordan's attorney present.  Allegedly, Jordan made a tape of the conversation without the knowledge of Smith and Smith had asked it be recorded and that request was refused.  Smith is claiming Jordan's sworn testimony is substantially different than what he told him in the interview in Jordan's attorney's office.  He wants the tape of prove what Jordan said to him.  The dufense is asserting that Jordan was coerced by LE to change his testimony.  I assert LE reminded Jordan what it meant to lie under oath which the interview with Smith was not under oath.  Just my take.  Bottom line, he don't want to be shoved under the antfarm bus.


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 04:31:04 PM
Good Afternoon All
Wesh just reported - http://www.wesh.com/news/23488034/detail.html

In response to all the filings after the Hearing yesterday -

Death Penalty is back on the Table -


ORLANDO, Fla. --
In responses filed with the Orange County clerk of courts on Thursday, prosecutors in the Casey Anthony case said the aggravating circumstances it will prove to obtain the death penalty for Anthony are obvious.

The filing came in response to a motion by Anthony's defense team requesting the state be compelled to outline which circumstances it's going to argue.

Under state law, there are 15 so-called aggravating circumstances. At least one of them must be proven for a defendant to receive the death penalty.

In his response, state prosecutor Jeff Ashton said nine of the 15 circumstances clearly do not apply to Casey. He then went on to point out four that he said clearly apply to the case.

They are, as written in state law:

    * The capital felony involved aggravated child abuse
    * It was premeditated
    * The victim was under the age of 12
    * The defendant was the victim's parent

There are two other aggravating circumstances the state may or may not try to prove. One of them is that the defendant benefited financially from the victim's death. The other is that the alleged slaying was especially heinous, atrocious or cruel.


Defense attorney Richard Hornsby said he believes the state has already tipped its hand in regard to claiming Caylee's murder was especially cruel.

"It's my belief that Jeff Ashton has already put the defense and entire public on notice that he's going to try to prove that by that presentation in court about how the duct tape may have been placed over Caylee's mouth and how she might have seen the eyes of her killer as she took her last breath," Hornsby said.

In a second filing, the state requested what Hornsby called a "tit for tat." Prosecutor Jeff Ashton asked that the court compel the defense to reveal the mitigating circumstances it will try to prove to argue against the death penalty.

In other filings on Thursday, Anthony's attorneys asked Judge Belvin Perry to reconsider previous rulings made by Judge Stan Strickland, who stepped down from the case in April.

The defense specifically wants Perry to provide it access to George Anthony's grand jury testimony, as well as records from the volunteer search group Texas EquuSearch.

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Caylee  ::MonkeyAngel::

thanks Deenie...............well we KNOW she benefited financially from Caylee murder and it was heinous and cruel!!  GO MR ASHTON!!

I hope the duhfence are compelled to  reveal the mitigating circumstances it will try to prove to argue against the death penalty (and I can't see how they can't be compelled in order for the State to be prepared)  JMO


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Post by: Sister on May 07, 2010, 04:32:09 PM
The woman volunteer claims she went to Hopespring with other volunteers from TES, but not as working with TES at that moment.  She was officially a volunteer at Blanchard Park, but not officially a volunteer at Hopespring.  I believe in previous maps it has been clearly shown that TES volunteers were no where near where Caylee was found, give or take a mile or two and/or being on the wrong side of the road. IIRC


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 04:33:17 PM
And we all know the murder was cruel and atrocious. So that makes 6

Yep that's what I count too ::MonkeyCool::  and I have no idea why bobo wants to JJ tape released.............. ::MonkeyNoNo::  I would be very surprised and extremely disappointed if JP reversed any of JS's orders.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 07, 2010, 04:33:47 PM
The woman volunteer claims she went to Hopespring with other volunteers from TES, but not as working with TES at that moment.  She was officially a volunteer at Blanchard Park, but not officially a volunteer at Hopespring.  I believe in previous maps it has been clearly shown that TES volunteers were no where near where Caylee was found, give or take a mile or two and/or being on the wrong side of the road. IIRC
Yes, and I've been trying to find her name, and can't  ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 04:35:07 PM
And we all know the murder was cruel and atrocious. So that makes 6

I agree 6. I don't understand this Joe Jordan  thing either. As it was speculated that woman " former volunteer" of TES - sorry having a brain lapse- who basically lied. She said she was at the site where Caylee was found " Caylee was not there" when she was at Blanchard Park - with everyone else. Michelle? cant think of her name. Any way that she was a Plant *Possibly by the defense/ Anthony's and Kidfinders ... she is part of the Joe Jordan testimony.  The last time in court with Judge Strickland, Baez said he was waiting for Joe Jordan ....yet he never showed. Something is very fishy about the " Joe Jordan" witness ... My brain is not working I apologize.


Thank-you for the above article. Her name is Laura B something, I can't remember her last name, sorry. I don't trust either one of them Jordan or Laura.

Laura Buchanan


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Post by: Deenie on May 07, 2010, 04:36:11 PM
And we all know the murder was cruel and atrocious. So that makes 6

I agree 6. I don't understand this Joe Jordan  thing either. As it was speculated that woman " former volunteer" of TES - sorry having a brain lapse- who basically lied. She said she was at the site where Caylee was found " Caylee was not there" when she was at Blanchard Park - with everyone else. Michelle? cant think of her name. Any way that she was a Plant *Possibly by the defense/ Anthony's and Kidfinders ... she is part of the Joe Jordan testimony.  The last time in court with Judge Strickland, Baez said he was waiting for Joe Jordan ....yet he never showed. Something is very fishy about the " Joe Jordan" witness ... My brain is not working I apologize.


Thank-you for the above article. Her name is Laura B something, I can't remember her last name, sorry. I don't trust either one of them Jordan or Laura.
Laura Buchanan, thank you for jarring my memory. She was the one who said she was part of LE at one time. Yet there is not proof. She worked for FISH wildlife something. It all goes back to KFN and the Ants. Again to CA/GA. In that article, WESH just provided. snipped:  The defense specifically wants Perry to provide it access to George Anthony's grand jury testimony, as well as records from the volunteer search group Texas EquuSearch.
George is in the middle of everything.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 07, 2010, 04:37:48 PM
Thank-you, got the Laura right  ::MonkeyHaHa::


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 04:39:22 PM
And we all know the murder was cruel and atrocious. So that makes 6

I agree 6. I don't understand this Joe Jordan  thing either. As it was speculated that woman " former volunteer" of TES - sorry having a brain lapse- who basically lied. She said she was at the site where Caylee was found " Caylee was not there" when she was at Blanchard Park - with everyone else. Michelle? cant think of her name. Any way that she was a Plant *Possibly by the defense/ Anthony's and Kidfinders ... she is part of the Joe Jordan testimony.  The last time in court with Judge Strickland, Baez said he was waiting for Joe Jordan ....yet he never showed. Something is very fishy about the " Joe Jordan" witness ... My brain is not working I apologize.


Thank-you for the above article. Her name is Laura B something, I can't remember her last name, sorry. I don't trust either one of them Jordan or Laura.
Laura Buchanan, thank you for jarring my memory. She was the one who said she was part of LE at one time. Yet there is not proof. She worked for FISH wildlife something. It all goes back to KFN and the Ants. Again to CA/GA. In that article, WESH just provided. snipped:  The defense specifically wants Perry to provide it access to George Anthony's grand jury testimony, as well as records from the volunteer search group Texas EquuSearch.
George is in the middle of everything.

the duhfence wants to know how much georgie boy told..........it was certainly enough to get an indictment for 1st degree murder ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: Deenie on May 07, 2010, 04:39:30 PM
Mort Smith (?) interviewed Jordan with Jordan's attorney present.  Allegedly, Jordan made a tape of the conversation without the knowledge of Smith and Smith had asked it be recorded and that request was refused.  Smith is claiming Jordan's sworn testimony is substantially different than what he told him in the interview in Jordan's attorney's office.  He wants the tape of prove what Jordan said to him.  The dufense is asserting that Jordan was coerced by LE to change his testimony.  I assert LE reminded Jordan what it meant to lie under oath which the interview with Smith was not under oath.  Just my take.  Bottom line, he don't want to be shoved under the antfarm bus.
I believe that too. I think he/JJ didn't realize that he was going to be chosen by Baez as his Wonder Boy.


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Post by: Sister on May 07, 2010, 04:42:19 PM
In the exhibits of the Motions filed yesterday, you will find Laura's statement as well as the stuff regarding Jordan.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html


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Post by: akmom on May 07, 2010, 04:43:59 PM
And we all know the murder was cruel and atrocious. So that makes 6

I agree 6. I don't understand this Joe Jordan  thing either. As it was speculated that woman " former volunteer" of TES - sorry having a brain lapse- who basically lied. She said she was at the site where Caylee was found " Caylee was not there" when she was at Blanchard Park - with everyone else. Michelle? cant think of her name. Any way that she was a Plant *Possibly by the defense/ Anthony's and Kidfinders ... she is part of the Joe Jordan testimony.  The last time in court with Judge Strickland, Baez said he was waiting for Joe Jordan ....yet he never showed. Something is very fishy about the " Joe Jordan" witness ... My brain is not working I apologize.



I don't understand any of the Joe Jordan stuff either, although I have wondered if he was trying to "secret super spy" Baez and catch HIM in trying to coerce something untrue out of him on that tape.  That said I feel that JJ lied to Baez regardless of why and I KNOW FOR A FACT that what he said about the search at the time he searched was passed on a while back to Mark NeJame who in turn passed it to LE.  Not sayin' how it was passed.  (Whistling whilst I stroll away) ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 07, 2010, 04:45:18 PM
And we all know the murder was cruel and atrocious. So that makes 6

I agree 6. I don't understand this Joe Jordan  thing either. As it was speculated that woman " former volunteer" of TES - sorry having a brain lapse- who basically lied. She said she was at the site where Caylee was found " Caylee was not there" when she was at Blanchard Park - with everyone else. Michelle? cant think of her name. Any way that she was a Plant *Possibly by the defense/ Anthony's and Kidfinders ... she is part of the Joe Jordan testimony.  The last time in court with Judge Strickland, Baez said he was waiting for Joe Jordan ....yet he never showed. Something is very fishy about the " Joe Jordan" witness ... My brain is not working I apologize.


Thank-you for the above article. Her name is Laura B something, I can't remember her last name, sorry. I don't trust either one of them Jordan or Laura.
Laura Buchanan, thank you for jarring my memory. She was the one who said she was part of LE at one time. Yet there is not proof. She worked for FISH wildlife something. It all goes back to KFN and the Ants. Again to CA/GA. In that article, WESH just provided. snipped:  The defense specifically wants Perry to provide it access to George Anthony's grand jury testimony, as well as records from the volunteer search group Texas EquuSearch.
George is in the middle of everything.

the duhfence wants to know how much georgie boy told..........it was certainly enough to get an indictment for 1st degree murder ::MonkeyCool::
When George did testify he was at his weakest moments emotionally. I think he may have said enough to create " Damage" in Casey's world. Because he testified right before Caylee's Memorial. He was at that time truly missing Caylee * first time possibly. Weeks after he had his thoughts of suicide .. He is going to find himself in the hot seat ..for both sides. Not to mention adding dealings with KFN and then Cindy too. At trial I am sure he is going have to testify against Her. Since she from day one has never stopped running her mouth - and flip floppy every which way but loose ( to Media/LE/Atty's)   


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Post by: Deenie on May 07, 2010, 04:50:19 PM
The woman volunteer claims she went to Hopespring with other volunteers from TES, but not as working with TES at that moment.  She was officially a volunteer at Blanchard Park, but not officially a volunteer at Hopespring.  I believe in previous maps it has been clearly shown that TES volunteers were no where near where Caylee was found, give or take a mile or two and/or being on the wrong side of the road. IIRC
And she is tied into all the KFN people who supposedly were " searching volunteers" yet their names are all listed as part of the non-profit corporation of KFN. They all claim they do not know each other ...its all a mess of lies. 


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Post by: jen3560 on May 07, 2010, 04:50:21 PM
Hello Monkeys!

I have some thoughts I'd like to share.  I watched this hearing yesterday on In Session (not live, but the recaps).  They included footage from the Mar 18 indigency hearing when all the attorney's for the defense testified that they don't have any movie/book/licensing deals.

I remember when watching that hearing live back in March, wondering why no one had the foresight to mention in that courtroom that George and Cindy Anthony had trademarked the name Caylee Marie Anthony.  That it is THEM who "own" the rights to anything Caylee.  Remember when they did that?  Before her body was found.

Why did no one - not the Judge, not the JAC, and not the State - ask if the Anthony family had any deals in the works?

For heaven's sake - that bald Jim guy that works for........it's either Good Morning America or the Today Show..can't remember which - is in the courtroom for every single hearing, with G&C.  He was even there for yesterday's hearing, with some blonde woman taking notes next to him.

Why has no one asked about what future monies are in store for the Anthony's because of any media/publishing deal they've made?

I know some of you Monkey's have a direct line to Kathi Belich, and I just thought this might be worth following up on - now that Florida taxpayers have to foot the bill for this defense.

We know that the Anthony's have put every last dime they have (and have been paid) into that defense fund.  Their house wouldn't be in foreclosure if they had been using their money for themselves.  So why were THEY not required to testify at the indigency hearing?

Hi jen......To my knowledge the 's have NOT put anything in the defense fund. they quite their jobs and sin-sin has been collecting disability (I don't know if she is still collecting it or not) I don't believe their foreclosure has anything to do with them putting any monies in a defense  fund. The A's collected, IMO, a LOT OF money from the general public at their tents and via the mail. We know georgie boy was collecting money for women..........we know they collected money from the media........we know they stopped paying their mortgage last year....we know they went on a cruise, got tattoos, georgie got earrings.  They send their murdering daughter about $100 a month on average.  I do not remember reading or hearing anything about them contributing to the defense fund..............but I am sure I have not heard and read about it all.....so please share with us if you have knowledge of them contributing....

Hi Sunny!

While I cannot find the original article with the quote, I did find a snippet of it on a blog:

ABC said its deal was negotiated with Baez, who was representing several owners of copyrighted content in the summer of 2008. Casey Anthony was later charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

***

And you pointed out some good examples - the A's did get donations from folks via all those tents, Kid Finders, etc.  And while Cindy has been on disability, I'm presuming Georgie boy has been receiving unemployment also?  They certainly could have paid their mortgage payments, but they didn't.  Why not?

The "Several Owners..." part of that quote regarding the deal brokered by Baez with ABC is what caught my attention.  Copyrighted material (we know G&C did that), we also know they trademarked Caylee's name.  Casey did none of that, therefore any future saleable rights belong to George and Cindy alone.

So why has there been no investigation into, and required testimony about negotiated deals with them?  That Jim guy is there for a story.  He's been with the A's since I think it was August 2008.


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Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 04:51:02 PM
Mort Smith (?) interviewed Jordan with Jordan's attorney present.  Allegedly, Jordan made a tape of the conversation without the knowledge of Smith and Smith had asked it be recorded and that request was refused.  Smith is claiming Jordan's sworn testimony is substantially different than what he told him in the interview in Jordan's attorney's office.  He wants the tape of prove what Jordan said to him.  The dufense is asserting that Jordan was coerced by LE to change his testimony.  I assert LE reminded Jordan what it meant to lie under oath which the interview with Smith was not under oath.  Just my take.  Bottom line, he don't want to be shoved under the antfarm bus.

I agree Sister........the duhfence is sure burning a lot of bridges in the legal and judicial communities by their unfounded accusations.......both tight communities that will circle the wagons when attacked.  If I was JB I would be looking for a different career when this is over. can you imagine him coming before any judge and that judge NOT remembering what he did to JS?  Or any LE not remembering that he said the LE coerced a witness............... ::MonkeyNoNo::  After his statements about and actions with the media yesterday, I would not imagine any of them will have the warm and fuzzies for him either.  In simple terms, I think he is screwed!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 04:53:39 PM
And we all know the murder was cruel and atrocious. So that makes 6

I agree 6. I don't understand this Joe Jordan  thing either. As it was speculated that woman " former volunteer" of TES - sorry having a brain lapse- who basically lied. She said she was at the site where Caylee was found " Caylee was not there" when she was at Blanchard Park - with everyone else. Michelle? cant think of her name. Any way that she was a Plant *Possibly by the defense/ Anthony's and Kidfinders ... she is part of the Joe Jordan testimony.  The last time in court with Judge Strickland, Baez said he was waiting for Joe Jordan ....yet he never showed. Something is very fishy about the " Joe Jordan" witness ... My brain is not working I apologize.



I don't understand any of the Joe Jordan stuff either, although I have wondered if he was trying to "secret super spy" Baez and catch HIM in trying to coerce something untrue out of him on that tape.  That said I feel that JJ lied to Baez regardless of why and I KNOW FOR A FACT that what he said about the search at the time he searched was passed on a while back to Mark NeJame who in turn passed it to LE.  Not sayin' how it was passed.  (Whistling whilst I stroll away) ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyAngel::

ak, I am strolling with you!    ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: Gizzie on May 07, 2010, 04:54:02 PM
Good Afternoon All
Wesh just reported - http://www.wesh.com/news/23488034/detail.html

In response to all the filings after the Hearing yesterday -

Death Penalty is back on the Table -


ORLANDO, Fla. --
In responses filed with the Orange County clerk of courts on Thursday, prosecutors in the Casey Anthony case said the aggravating circumstances it will prove to obtain the death penalty for Anthony are obvious.

The filing came in response to a motion by Anthony's defense team requesting the state be compelled to outline which circumstances it's going to argue.

Under state law, there are 15 so-called aggravating circumstances. At least one of them must be proven for a defendant to receive the death penalty.

In his response, state prosecutor Jeff Ashton said nine of the 15 circumstances clearly do not apply to Casey. He then went on to point out four that he said clearly apply to the case.

They are, as written in state law:

    * The capital felony involved aggravated child abuse
    * It was premeditated
    * The victim was under the age of 12
    * The defendant was the victim's parent

There are two other aggravating circumstances the state may or may not try to prove. One of them is that the defendant benefited financially from the victim's death. The other is that the alleged slaying was especially heinous, atrocious or cruel.


Defense attorney Richard Hornsby said he believes the state has already tipped its hand in regard to claiming Caylee's murder was especially cruel.

"It's my belief that Jeff Ashton has already put the defense and entire public on notice that he's going to try to prove that by that presentation in court about how the duct tape may have been placed over Caylee's mouth and how she might have seen the eyes of her killer as she took her last breath," Hornsby said.

In a second filing, the state requested what Hornsby called a "tit for tat." Prosecutor Jeff Ashton asked that the court compel the defense to reveal the mitigating circumstances it will try to prove to argue against the death penalty.

In other filings on Thursday, Anthony's attorneys asked Judge Belvin Perry to reconsider previous rulings made by Judge Stan Strickland, who stepped down from the case in April.

The defense specifically wants Perry to provide it access to George Anthony's grand jury testimony, as well as records from the volunteer search group Texas EquuSearch.

---
Caylee  ::MonkeyAngel::


I wonder the purpose for wanting to know this? Are they asking for what the defense will argue after she's found guilty or what they're going to argue to get the D.P. off before trial?

And Hornsby bugs me. Like there aren't defense attorneys doing the "tit for tat" anywhere else. GMAB!  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on May 07, 2010, 04:58:38 PM
And we all know the murder was cruel and atrocious. So that makes 6

I agree 6. I don't understand this Joe Jordan  thing either. As it was speculated that woman " former volunteer" of TES - sorry having a brain lapse- who basically lied. She said she was at the site where Caylee was found " Caylee was not there" when she was at Blanchard Park - with everyone else. Michelle? cant think of her name. Any way that she was a Plant *Possibly by the defense/ Anthony's and Kidfinders ... she is part of the Joe Jordan testimony.  The last time in court with Judge Strickland, Baez said he was waiting for Joe Jordan ....yet he never showed. Something is very fishy about the " Joe Jordan" witness ... My brain is not working I apologize.



I don't understand any of the Joe Jordan stuff either, although I have wondered if he was trying to "secret super spy" Baez and catch HIM in trying to coerce something untrue out of him on that tape.  That said I feel that JJ lied to Baez regardless of why and I KNOW FOR A FACT that what he said about the search at the time he searched was passed on a while back to Mark NeJame who in turn passed it to LE.  Not sayin' how it was passed.  (Whistling whilst I stroll away) ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyAngel::

ak, I am strolling with you!    ::MonkeyAngel::

Hehe, MN is a really nice guy and I am so glad he is representing Tim Miller


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 04:59:50 PM
Hello Monkeys!

I have some thoughts I'd like to share.  I watched this hearing yesterday on In Session (not live, but the recaps).  They included footage from the Mar 18 indigency hearing when all the attorney's for the defense testified that they don't have any movie/book/licensing deals.

I remember when watching that hearing live back in March, wondering why no one had the foresight to mention in that courtroom that George and Cindy Anthony had trademarked the name Caylee Marie Anthony.  That it is THEM who "own" the rights to anything Caylee.  Remember when they did that?  Before her body was found.

Why did no one - not the Judge, not the JAC, and not the State - ask if the Anthony family had any deals in the works?

For heaven's sake - that bald Jim guy that works for........it's either Good Morning America or the Today Show..can't remember which - is in the courtroom for every single hearing, with G&C.  He was even there for yesterday's hearing, with some blonde woman taking notes next to him.

Why has no one asked about what future monies are in store for the Anthony's because of any media/publishing deal they've made?

I know some of you Monkey's have a direct line to Kathi Belich, and I just thought this might be worth following up on - now that Florida taxpayers have to foot the bill for this defense.

We know that the Anthony's have put every last dime they have (and have been paid) into that defense fund.  Their house wouldn't be in foreclosure if they had been using their money for themselves.  So why were THEY not required to testify at the indigency hearing?

Hi jen......To my knowledge the 's have NOT put anything in the defense fund. they quite their jobs and sin-sin has been collecting disability (I don't know if she is still collecting it or not) I don't believe their foreclosure has anything to do with them putting any monies in a defense  fund. The A's collected, IMO, a LOT OF money from the general public at their tents and via the mail. We know georgie boy was collecting money for women..........we know they collected money from the media........we know they stopped paying their mortgage last year....we know they went on a cruise, got tattoos, georgie got earrings.  They send their murdering daughter about $100 a month on average.  I do not remember reading or hearing anything about them contributing to the defense fund..............but I am sure I have not heard and read about it all.....so please share with us if you have knowledge of them contributing....

Hi Sunny!

While I cannot find the original article with the quote, I did find a snippet of it on a blog:

ABC said its deal was negotiated with Baez, who was representing several owners of copyrighted content in the summer of 2008. Casey Anthony was later charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

***

And you pointed out some good examples - the A's did get donations from folks via all those tents, Kid Finders, etc.  And while Cindy has been on disability, I'm presuming Georgie boy has been receiving unemployment also?  They certainly could have paid their mortgage payments, but they didn't.  Why not?

The "Several Owners..." part of that quote regarding the deal brokered by Baez with ABC is what caught my attention.  Copyrighted material (we know G&C did that), we also know they trademarked Caylee's name.  Casey did none of that, therefore any future saleable rights belong to George and Cindy alone.

So why has there been no investigation into, and required testimony about negotiated deals with them?  That Jim guy is there for a story.  He's been with the A's since I think it was August 2008.

thanks Jen, I don't recall seeing that before....so you might be correct...........any monies they got for using Caylee's name might have gone to BOBO.   Please post the link to the Blog...I want to send this information to Mr. Morgan. I agree Jim L. is there for a reason and that reason will equal money for the A's!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 07, 2010, 05:00:04 PM
And we all know the murder was cruel and atrocious. So that makes 6

I agree 6. I don't understand this Joe Jordan  thing either. As it was speculated that woman " former volunteer" of TES - sorry having a brain lapse- who basically lied. She said she was at the site where Caylee was found " Caylee was not there" when she was at Blanchard Park - with everyone else. Michelle? cant think of her name. Any way that she was a Plant *Possibly by the defense/ Anthony's and Kidfinders ... she is part of the Joe Jordan testimony.  The last time in court with Judge Strickland, Baez said he was waiting for Joe Jordan ....yet he never showed. Something is very fishy about the " Joe Jordan" witness ... My brain is not working I apologize.



Laura Buchanan IIRC is the woman who said she was LE from Kentucky. She called Joe Jordan a couple of times and he told her not to call him again. He states he does not know her, and did not search with her on Suburban Drive.
IIRC, the paperwork he saw when interviewed by Mortimer Smith, Joe Jordan's name was on a TES form as searching with LB at Blanchard Park. JJ says he did not search at BP.  Both Joe Jordan did their own searches on Suburban Drive, not with TES. Correct me if I have my facts wrong....I think I have senioritis today.... ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 05:01:49 PM
And we all know the murder was cruel and atrocious. So that makes 6

I agree 6. I don't understand this Joe Jordan  thing either. As it was speculated that woman " former volunteer" of TES - sorry having a brain lapse- who basically lied. She said she was at the site where Caylee was found " Caylee was not there" when she was at Blanchard Park - with everyone else. Michelle? cant think of her name. Any way that she was a Plant *Possibly by the defense/ Anthony's and Kidfinders ... she is part of the Joe Jordan testimony.  The last time in court with Judge Strickland, Baez said he was waiting for Joe Jordan ....yet he never showed. Something is very fishy about the " Joe Jordan" witness ... My brain is not working I apologize.



I don't understand any of the Joe Jordan stuff either, although I have wondered if he was trying to "secret super spy" Baez and catch HIM in trying to coerce something untrue out of him on that tape.  That said I feel that JJ lied to Baez regardless of why and I KNOW FOR A FACT that what he said about the search at the time he searched was passed on a while back to Mark NeJame who in turn passed it to LE.  Not sayin' how it was passed.  (Whistling whilst I stroll away) ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyAngel::

ak, I am strolling with you!    ::MonkeyAngel::

Hehe, MN is a really nice guy and I am so glad he is representing Tim Miller

he is, and he has scruples and morals..............he and Tim are kindred souls


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 05:03:40 PM
And we all know the murder was cruel and atrocious. So that makes 6

I agree 6. I don't understand this Joe Jordan  thing either. As it was speculated that woman " former volunteer" of TES - sorry having a brain lapse- who basically lied. She said she was at the site where Caylee was found " Caylee was not there" when she was at Blanchard Park - with everyone else. Michelle? cant think of her name. Any way that she was a Plant *Possibly by the defense/ Anthony's and Kidfinders ... she is part of the Joe Jordan testimony.  The last time in court with Judge Strickland, Baez said he was waiting for Joe Jordan ....yet he never showed. Something is very fishy about the " Joe Jordan" witness ... My brain is not working I apologize.



Laura Buchanan IIRC is the woman who said she was LE from Kentucky. She called Joe Jordan a couple of times and he told her not to call him again. He states he does not know her, and did not search with her on Suburban Drive.
IIRC, the paperwork he saw when interviewed by Mortimer Smith, Joe Jordan's name was on a TES form as searching with LB at Blanchard Park. JJ says he did not search at BP.  Both Joe Jordan did their own searches on Suburban Drive, not with TES. Correct me if I have my facts wrong....I think I have senioritis today.... ::rhino::

You are correct or we both have senioritis ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 05:04:31 PM
In the exhibits of the Motions filed yesterday, you will find Laura's statement as well as the stuff regarding Jordan.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html

thanks Sister ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: jen3560 on May 07, 2010, 05:04:45 PM
Hello Monkeys!

I have some thoughts I'd like to share.  I watched this hearing yesterday on In Session (not live, but the recaps).  They included footage from the Mar 18 indigency hearing when all the attorney's for the defense testified that they don't have any movie/book/licensing deals.

I remember when watching that hearing live back in March, wondering why no one had the foresight to mention in that courtroom that George and Cindy Anthony had trademarked the name Caylee Marie Anthony.  That it is THEM who "own" the rights to anything Caylee.  Remember when they did that?  Before her body was found.

Why did no one - not the Judge, not the JAC, and not the State - ask if the Anthony family had any deals in the works?

For heaven's sake - that bald Jim guy that works for........it's either Good Morning America or the Today Show..can't remember which - is in the courtroom for every single hearing, with G&C.  He was even there for yesterday's hearing, with some blonde woman taking notes next to him.

Why has no one asked about what future monies are in store for the Anthony's because of any media/publishing deal they've made?

I know some of you Monkey's have a direct line to Kathi Belich, and I just thought this might be worth following up on - now that Florida taxpayers have to foot the bill for this defense.

We know that the Anthony's have put every last dime they have (and have been paid) into that defense fund.  Their house wouldn't be in foreclosure if they had been using their money for themselves.  So why were THEY not required to testify at the indigency hearing?

Hi jen......To my knowledge the 's have NOT put anything in the defense fund. they quite their jobs and sin-sin has been collecting disability (I don't know if she is still collecting it or not) I don't believe their foreclosure has anything to do with them putting any monies in a defense  fund. The A's collected, IMO, a LOT OF money from the general public at their tents and via the mail. We know georgie boy was collecting money for women..........we know they collected money from the media........we know they stopped paying their mortgage last year....we know they went on a cruise, got tattoos, georgie got earrings.  They send their murdering daughter about $100 a month on average.  I do not remember reading or hearing anything about them contributing to the defense fund..............but I am sure I have not heard and read about it all.....so please share with us if you have knowledge of them contributing....

Hi Sunny!

While I cannot find the original article with the quote, I did find a snippet of it on a blog:

ABC said its deal was negotiated with Baez, who was representing several owners of copyrighted content in the summer of 2008. Casey Anthony was later charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

***

And you pointed out some good examples - the A's did get donations from folks via all those tents, Kid Finders, etc.  And while Cindy has been on disability, I'm presuming Georgie boy has been receiving unemployment also?  They certainly could have paid their mortgage payments, but they didn't.  Why not?

The "Several Owners..." part of that quote regarding the deal brokered by Baez with ABC is what caught my attention.  Copyrighted material (we know G&C did that), we also know they trademarked Caylee's name.  Casey did none of that, therefore any future saleable rights belong to George and Cindy alone.

So why has there been no investigation into, and required testimony about negotiated deals with them?  That Jim guy is there for a story.  He's been with the A's since I think it was August 2008.

thanks Jen, I don't recall seeing that before....so you might be correct...........any monies they got for using Caylee's name might have gone to BOBO.   Please post the link to the Blog...I want to send this information to Mr. Morgan. I agree Jim L. is there for a reason and that reason will equal money for the A's!

YES YES YES  ::MonkeyDance::

Sorry Sunny, I apologize for not being able to make that clear the first time.  Any/all use - after trademarked and copyrighting was done - of Caylee's name and/or likeness, the A's could have either received royalties for, or could sue for.  That could be quite the chunk of change lining their pockets.  And if not using that to keep their home....

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/03/casey-anthony-abc-paid-200000-to-casey-anthony-and-gained-what.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+(TV+Guy)

All i did was google "Baez brokered deal abc" and it led me to several blogs who were talking about it at the time.  I'm sure the original article with that quote could be found that way.

I say there is still a lot to answer for regarding monies available to pay for the defense - rather than taxpayers doing so.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 07, 2010, 05:05:59 PM
Wouldn't Bozo have had to have Cindy and George in his accounting documents if they contributed to KC's defense fund?
Wasn't he supposed to give detailed accounting figures to Judge Strickland the day after the indigent hearing?
That's not to say Bozo fessed up to money he may or may not have received from the Ants. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 07, 2010, 05:07:20 PM
In regards to Caylee's photo's and home videos. I was thinking about this yesterday.
I wonder if Cindy and George " handed them all over without forethought" when they saw those dollar signs keep getting larger by the highest bidder ..

Did they give all the originals away? Did they think first and have copies made ? Give away the copies and keep the originals? Because their so callous and " jumping the gun " at all times. That is why I ask. They didn't find it unreasonable to do what they did with Caylee's ashes. God knows truly where " all " Little Caylee's ashes truly are.

I know they made copies of some, they would have to for future use " Sales" - gag me.
I wonder though how many they just callously handed over .. "originals". I can so see them doing it.  I watched the movie " The Lovely Bones" last weekend. What a insightful movie. I want to watch it again. Suzie Salmon says that she wants to be a photographer when she grows up. She says taking photos are capturing a piece/moment of time that will never be repeated. 

I don't think the Anthony's value anything but money. I wonder how much freedom costs to them? *not Casey, but their individual freedom - We will see them CA/GA/LA - at their finest showdown. They are going to eat each other alive - verbally and emotionally.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: jen3560 on May 07, 2010, 05:09:45 PM
Wouldn't Bozo have had to have Cindy and George in his accounting documents if they contributed to KC's defense fund?
Wasn't he supposed to give detailed accounting figures to Judge Strickland the day after the indigent hearing?
That's not to say Bozo fessed up to money he may or may not have received from the Ants. ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyDevil::  Surely you don't think he's forthright and honest about money - while claiming to work for zilch, do you?  Remember, in that March indigency hearing, the atty's agreed to disclose if any deals were being/had been negotiated.  Then they went into that back room for a pow wow.  Why the need to do that, if they were all being up front and honest?  Why the need to get behind closed doors for all of them to simply state "No, your Honor, I have not negotiated any deal with any media for any monies".

No, I think they were keeping their fingers and toes crossed that no one in that courtroom would think to call the A's to the stand.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 07, 2010, 05:12:52 PM
Wouldn't Bozo have had to have Cindy and George in his accounting documents if they contributed to KC's defense fund?
Wasn't he supposed to give detailed accounting figures to Judge Strickland the day after the indigent hearing?
That's not to say Bozo fessed up to money he may or may not have received from the Ants. ::MonkeyTongue::
Bobo probably has within his accounting two sets of books. One he keeps at the office. One he keeps disclosed.  I don't trust him for one red second. He is who he is. He is Jose Baez. He made be a oaf in court. But he too knows the law and how to get around it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 07, 2010, 05:14:38 PM
Wouldn't Bozo have had to have Cindy and George in his accounting documents if they contributed to KC's defense fund?
Wasn't he supposed to give detailed accounting figures to Judge Strickland the day after the indigent hearing?
That's not to say Bozo fessed up to money he may or may not have received from the Ants. ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyDevil::  Surely you don't think he's forthright and honest about money - while claiming to work for zilch, do you?  Remember, in that March indigency hearing, the atty's agreed to disclose if any deals were being/had been negotiated.  Then they went into that back room for a pow wow.  Why the need to do that, if they were all being up front and honest?  Why the need to get behind closed doors for all of them to simply state "No, your Honor, I have not negotiated any deal with any media for any monies".

No, I think they were keeping their fingers and toes crossed that no one in that courtroom would think to call the A's to the stand.

Ok, I had a moment of weakness and gave BOZO the benefit of doubt.......won't happen again! ::MonkeyJnBox::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on May 07, 2010, 05:22:51 PM
Just thought these might deserve another look-see:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597996#msg597996

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597993#msg597993





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 07, 2010, 05:24:39 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/11/wftv-sees-big-d.html

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: Cindy Cindy Cindy ( Nov 2008 )

*WKMG-Channel 6 is offering a tour of the Anthony home at 11 p.m. Tuesday. The Anthonys invited reporter Jessica D’Onofrio  to look at their home. "We went room by room in that house," D’Onofrio said. Cindy and George Anthony, parents of Casey and grandparents of missing Caylee, "talked about a potential book they plan to write in the future," D’Onofrio said. WFTV-Channel 9 reported last week that Cindy might write a book, then she nixed that idea in an interview with WESH-Channel 2. So the book is back on? It’s this confusing or what?
The grandparents say they are "more frustrated than ever" by the investigation, D’Onofrio said.
Cindy told WKMG: "George and I and Casey and Lee will walk up to our maker and not have any problems going into the gates of heaven, because we have not done anything wrong." 
In sweeps month, the Anthonys are big business.
*At noon Tuesday, WFTV’s Kathi Belich reported that Jose Baez, Anthony’s lawyer, was on the prosecution’s witness list. WFTV anchor Barbara West previewed the news as "a big development."

WESH-Channel 2 later reported that the state made "a big mistake" in listing Baez.
*WESH offered dramatic footage of well-known attorney John Morgan answering Cindy Anthony. She has called Morgan "an ambulance chaser." He is representing a woman who is suing Casey Anthony; the woman says her life was ruined when Casey Anthony wrongly named her as the baby sitter to missing Caylee.

Morgan’s response to Cindy Anthony: "Be careful when she calls me an ambulance chaser. Because she may have repeated this same slander, and she may find the ambulance chaser turning his Howitzer in a different direction, and it may be in her direction."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on May 07, 2010, 05:35:31 PM
Because Dr. G was unable to establish the COD, I'm not sure that the state can prove her death was "cruel". They can certainly insinuate that it was, and because of the duct tape around Caylee's mouth and skull, we can go a step further and assume that she died by suffocation at the hands of Casey Anthony. They only have to meet one standard, so I doubt it matters to them which one will apply.

As far as the A's...I don't see them supporting the notion that Casey's home life was abusive, sexually, physically, verbally or otherwise. Their quest was to show the world what an idyllic, wonderful, supportive family she was from. They are obviously lunatics, but I think that would be "over the line" even for them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on May 07, 2010, 05:37:43 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/11/wftv-sees-big-d.html

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: Cindy Cindy Cindy ( Nov 2008 )

*WKMG-Channel 6 is offering a tour of the Anthony home at 11 p.m. Tuesday. The Anthonys invited reporter Jessica D’Onofrio  to look at their home. "We went room by room in that house," D’Onofrio said. Cindy and George Anthony, parents of Casey and grandparents of missing Caylee, "talked about a potential book they plan to write in the future," D’Onofrio said. WFTV-Channel 9 reported last week that Cindy might write a book, then she nixed that idea in an interview with WESH-Channel 2. So the book is back on? It’s this confusing or what?
The grandparents say they are "more frustrated than ever" by the investigation, D’Onofrio said.
Cindy told WKMG: "George and I and Casey and Lee will walk up to our maker and not have any problems going into the gates of heaven, because we have not done anything wrong." 
In sweeps month, the Anthonys are big business.
*At noon Tuesday, WFTV’s Kathi Belich reported that Jose Baez, Anthony’s lawyer, was on the prosecution’s witness list. WFTV anchor Barbara West previewed the news as "a big development."

WESH-Channel 2 later reported that the state made "a big mistake" in listing Baez.
*WESH offered dramatic footage of well-known attorney John Morgan answering Cindy Anthony. She has called Morgan "an ambulance chaser." He is representing a woman who is suing Casey Anthony; the woman says her life was ruined when Casey Anthony wrongly named her as the baby sitter to missing Caylee.

Morgan’s response to Cindy Anthony: "Be careful when she calls me an ambulance chaser. Because she may have repeated this same slander, and she may find the ambulance chaser turning his Howitzer in a different direction, and it may be in her direction."

I love me some Mr Morgan.. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 05:55:48 PM
Just thought these might deserve another look-see:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597996#msg597996

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597993#msg597993

ak, hint please....I am still trying to find the information regarding the A's trademarking Caylee's name and all I have found so far is a trademeark for the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on May 07, 2010, 06:04:41 PM
Just thought these might deserve another look-see:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597996#msg597996

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597993#msg597993

ak, hint please....I am still trying to find the information regarding the A's trademarking Caylee's name and all I have found so far is a trademeark for the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation

So sorry Sunny, I have a bad habit of getting stuck on a point that bothers me while others move on.  LOL, that was still about where and when JJ searched.  I got into a tiff with him early on and cannot seem to move on.  Ignore me!!  Just call me unable to see the forest for the trees.  I try, but I always seem to be behind!!! ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sister on May 07, 2010, 06:10:47 PM
Just thought these might deserve another look-see:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597996#msg597996

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597993#msg597993

ak, hint please....I am still trying to find the information regarding the A's trademarking Caylee's name and all I have found so far is a trademeark for the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation

Sunny, I don't think they trademarked the name, just the foundation.  It is difficult to trademark a surname, unless of course it is connected with a product, such as JLo or Madonna.  I'm not saying it's impossible, but it is difficult.  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on May 07, 2010, 06:21:51 PM
Just thought these might deserve another look-see:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597996#msg597996

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597993#msg597993

ak, hint please....I am still trying to find the information regarding the A's trademarking Caylee's name and all I have found so far is a trademeark for the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation

Casey writes in one of her letters from jail that her Mother has trademarked Caylee's name and talked about doing the same with her name, and is planning on writing a book...
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/040610-casey-anthony


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 07, 2010, 06:23:11 PM
Just thought these might deserve another look-see:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597996#msg597996

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597993#msg597993

ak, hint please....I am still trying to find the information regarding the A's trademarking Caylee's name and all I have found so far is a trademeark for the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation

So sorry Sunny, I have a bad habit of getting stuck on a point that bothers me while others move on.  LOL, that was still about where and when JJ searched.  I got into a tiff with him early on and cannot seem to move on.  Ignore me!!  Just call me unable to see the forest for the trees.  I try, but I always seem to be behind!!! ::MonkeyCool::
What do you think about Jordan? I can't put my finger on it, but he seems to try to make himself more important then he actually is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 06:35:06 PM
Because Dr. G was unable to establish the COD, I'm not sure that the state can prove her death was "cruel". They can certainly insinuate that it was, and because of the duct tape around Caylee's mouth and skull, we can go a step further and assume that she died by suffocation at the hands of Casey Anthony. They only have to meet one standard, so I doubt it matters to them which one will apply.

As far as the A's...I don't see them supporting the notion that Casey's home life was abusive, sexually, physically, verbally or otherwise. Their quest was to show the world what an idyllic, wonderful, supportive family she was from. They are obviously lunatics, but I think that would be "over the line" even for them.

Hi Curly.....I agree re: the A's..........they will never go for taking the blame for KC being a murderer.  I think a jury is going to look at the duct tape as cruel and will not be able to get past it...the can be no reason, no excuse..the duct tape will be the key, that along with not reporting Catlee missing until FORCED to, that gets her a guilty verdict.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sister on May 07, 2010, 06:36:42 PM
Just thought these might deserve another look-see:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597996#msg597996

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597993#msg597993

ak, hint please....I am still trying to find the information regarding the A's trademarking Caylee's name and all I have found so far is a trademeark for the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation

So sorry Sunny, I have a bad habit of getting stuck on a point that bothers me while others move on.  LOL, that was still about where and when JJ searched.  I got into a tiff with him early on and cannot seem to move on.  Ignore me!!  Just call me unable to see the forest for the trees.  I try, but I always seem to be behind!!! ::MonkeyCool::

ak, if you go on the wftv site -- there are transcripts of JJordan's interviews.  Sorry I don't know how to bring them forward, but they are enlightening, particularly as he talks about Laura working for bozo.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/22918297/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 06:37:26 PM
Just thought these might deserve another look-see:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597996#msg597996

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597993#msg597993

ak, hint please....I am still trying to find the information regarding the A's trademarking Caylee's name and all I have found so far is a trademeark for the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation

So sorry Sunny, I have a bad habit of getting stuck on a point that bothers me while others move on.  LOL, that was still about where and when JJ searched.  I got into a tiff with him early on and cannot seem to move on.  Ignore me!!  Just call me unable to see the forest for the trees.  I try, but I always seem to be behind!!! ::MonkeyCool::

ak....years ago it was a jole on Natalee's thread about me always being pages and pages behind........I'll join you with JJ cause
I can't find anything else about the copywriting...it was the name of the foundation as far as I can find out....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 06:38:35 PM
Just thought these might deserve another look-see:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597996#msg597996

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597993#msg597993

ak, hint please....I am still trying to find the information regarding the A's trademarking Caylee's name and all I have found so far is a trademeark for the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation

Sunny, I don't think they trademarked the name, just the foundation.  It is difficult to trademark a surname, unless of course it is connected with a product, such as JLo or Madonna.  I'm not saying it's impossible, but it is difficult.  JMO

thanks Sister, that is what I have come up with as well ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sister on May 07, 2010, 06:41:55 PM
Just thought these might deserve another look-see:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597996#msg597996

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597993#msg597993

ak, hint please....I am still trying to find the information regarding the A's trademarking Caylee's name and all I have found so far is a trademeark for the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation

Casey writes in one of her letters from jail that her Mother has trademarked Caylee's name and talked about doing the same with her name, and is planning on writing a book...
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/040610-casey-anthony

Thanks Western, I did a search and could not find where the name was registered.  Did find the foundation.  But, my research skills are not the greatest.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on May 07, 2010, 06:43:22 PM
Just thought these might deserve another look-see:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597996#msg597996

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597993#msg597993

ak, hint please....I am still trying to find the information regarding the A's trademarking Caylee's name and all I have found so far is a trademeark for the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation

So sorry Sunny, I have a bad habit of getting stuck on a point that bothers me while others move on.  LOL, that was still about where and when JJ searched.  I got into a tiff with him early on and cannot seem to move on.  Ignore me!!  Just call me unable to see the forest for the trees.  I try, but I always seem to be behind!!! ::MonkeyCool::
What do you think about Jordan? I can't put my finger on it, but he seems to try to make himself more important then he actually is.

I do feel that he just, like so many other people, tried to insert himself where he did not belong.  He told Baez and company one thing about where he searched and recorded the conversation, then told LE something else.  By his own admission here on this forum he said that so many people missed finding Caylee and it was understandable considering the conditions of the area.  What I don't know is why he taped the convo.  Was he trying to catch Baez in trying to coerce something out of him(that maybe the area wasn't searched thoroughly, or that Caylee wasn't actually there)  That I do not know and I think is the ten thousand dollar question.  I was really upset because I felt he was telling things about TES that he wasn't supposed to when he posted here.  If you look back it seems like he was running all around Orlando picking up every piece of garbage possible and trying to link it to Caylee.  Remember all those items from Blanchard Park?  The polka dot undies, etc....  While it is great that people were out searching, some seemed to hinder and were asked to stop privately searching.  My opinion only....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on May 07, 2010, 06:46:08 PM
Just thought these might deserve another look-see:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597996#msg597996

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597993#msg597993

ak, hint please....I am still trying to find the information regarding the A's trademarking Caylee's name and all I have found so far is a trademeark for the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation

So sorry Sunny, I have a bad habit of getting stuck on a point that bothers me while others move on.  LOL, that was still about where and when JJ searched.  I got into a tiff with him early on and cannot seem to move on.  Ignore me!!  Just call me unable to see the forest for the trees.  I try, but I always seem to be behind!!! ::MonkeyCool::

ak, if you go on the wftv site -- there are transcripts of JJordan's interviews.  Sorry I don't know how to bring them forward, but they are enlightening, particularly as he talks about Laura working for bozo.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/22918297/detail.html

Thanks Sister, that is what got me really irritated with the whole JJ thing


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 07, 2010, 06:46:47 PM
Just thought these might deserve another look-see:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597996#msg597996

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597993#msg597993

ak, hint please....I am still trying to find the information regarding the A's trademarking Caylee's name and all I have found so far is a trademeark for the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation

Casey writes in one of her letters from jail that her Mother has trademarked Caylee's name and talked about doing the same with her name, and is planning on writing a book...
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/040610-casey-anthony

Hi WO and thank you!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sister on May 07, 2010, 06:50:48 PM
Just thought these might deserve another look-see:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597996#msg597996

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597993#msg597993

ak, hint please....I am still trying to find the information regarding the A's trademarking Caylee's name and all I have found so far is a trademeark for the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation

So sorry Sunny, I have a bad habit of getting stuck on a point that bothers me while others move on.  LOL, that was still about where and when JJ searched.  I got into a tiff with him early on and cannot seem to move on.  Ignore me!!  Just call me unable to see the forest for the trees.  I try, but I always seem to be behind!!! ::MonkeyCool::

ak, if you go on the wftv site -- there are transcripts of JJordan's interviews.  Sorry I don't know how to bring them forward, but they are enlightening, particularly as he talks about Laura working for bozo.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/22918297/detail.html

Thanks Sister, that is what got me really irritated with the whole JJ thing

Yes, in the interview is sounds like he is saying he was being asked to falsify search reports.  I think he wanted to be important and got in wayyyyyy over his head really fast.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on May 07, 2010, 06:51:48 PM
Just thought these might deserve another look-see:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597996#msg597996

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597993#msg597993

ak, hint please....I am still trying to find the information regarding the A's trademarking Caylee's name and all I have found so far is a trademeark for the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation

So sorry Sunny, I have a bad habit of getting stuck on a point that bothers me while others move on.  LOL, that was still about where and when JJ searched.  I got into a tiff with him early on and cannot seem to move on.  Ignore me!!  Just call me unable to see the forest for the trees.  I try, but I always seem to be behind!!! ::MonkeyCool::

ak....years ago it was a jole on Natalee's thread about me always being pages and pages behind........I'll join you with JJ cause
I can't find anything else about the copywriting...it was the name of the foundation as far as I can find out....

While I joined when Caylee went missing, I started reading when Natalee did.  I got behind and never did catch up with Natalee's thread.  God Bless our missing and murdered.  That is why I am here.

On the copy write...I think it is nearly impossible to copy write a name.  Haven't movie stars gone round and round about this??  Some names can be like Lucy, while Lindsey Lohan has not been able to?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: darla on May 07, 2010, 06:55:24 PM
I'm in and out this afternoon, so I am sorry this is a little late for when we were discussing it......The article someone posted several pages back about Dr Lee working pro bono....could someone who has Kathi Belich's ear send that to her? I think that might be interesting to a few folks....especially the tax payers of Fla.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on May 07, 2010, 07:34:05 PM
I'm in and out this afternoon, so I am sorry this is a little late for when we were discussing it......The article someone posted several pages back about Dr Lee working pro bono....could someone who has Kathi Belich's ear send that to her? I think that might be interesting to a few folks....especially the tax payers of Fla.

I sent it to her yesterday.  I also sent it to the Orlando Sentinel journalist that covered the case yesterday.  I sent her the link to the NG show where Dr HLee announced he was working Pro Bono, and now Baez is trying to claim fees for him, but she just wrote back that maybe Dr HLee had changed his mind....   I thought that was odd, but -      I think it more likely that Baez either doesn't know what he's doing or is trying to claim fees that will never reach Dr H Lee.....!X


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on May 07, 2010, 07:35:30 PM
BTW_ The Sentinel Journalist was a Sarah Lundy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 07, 2010, 07:45:45 PM
Because Dr. G was unable to establish the COD, I'm not sure that the state can prove her death was "cruel". They can certainly insinuate that it was, and because of the duct tape around Caylee's mouth and skull, we can go a step further and assume that she died by suffocation at the hands of Casey Anthony. They only have to meet one standard, so I doubt it matters to them which one will apply.

As far as the A's...I don't see them supporting the notion that Casey's home life was abusive, sexually, physically, verbally or otherwise. Their quest was to show the world what an idyllic, wonderful, supportive family she was from. They are obviously lunatics, but I think that would be "over the line" even for them.

Hi Curly.....I agree re: the A's..........they will never go for taking the blame for KC being a murderer.  I think a jury is going to look at the duct tape as cruel and will not be able to get past it...the can be no reason, no excuse..the duct tape will be the key, that along with not reporting Catlee missing until FORCED to, that gets her a guilty verdict.

The duct tape and not reporting a baby missing for 31 days...can't get past either one of them!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 07, 2010, 07:50:18 PM
Thanks akmom on your take on Joseph Jordan.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 07, 2010, 08:35:23 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/5/7/judge_sets_deadlines_in_casey_case.html
 Judge Sets Deadlines In Casey Case
Friday, May 07, 2010 6:41:42 PM
ORLANDO -- The judge in the Casey Anthony trial is setting specific deadlines for lawyers from both sides to complete their work, and set a date for the trial to start.

Judge Belvin Perry has ordered the state to complete their depositions of expert witnesses by Sept. 30 and the defense by Feb. 28, 2011.

Depositions of law enforcement officers must be done by Sept. 30 and all other witnesses by Oct. 31

He also ordered the defense to come up with a list of expert witnesses, and provide any reports and motions by Nov. 30.

Perry also set dates about once a month for status hearings and wants the trial to start May 9, 2011.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 07, 2010, 08:52:16 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/5/7/judge_sets_deadlines_in_casey_case.html
 Judge Sets Deadlines In Casey Case
Friday, May 07, 2010 6:41:42 PM
ORLANDO -- The judge in the Casey Anthony trial is setting specific deadlines for lawyers from both sides to complete their work, and set a date for the trial to start.

Judge Belvin Perry has ordered the state to complete their depositions of expert witnesses by Sept. 30 and the defense by Feb. 28, 2011.

Depositions of law enforcement officers must be done by Sept. 30 and all other witnesses by Oct. 31

He also ordered the defense to come up with a list of expert witnesses, and provide any reports and motions by Nov. 30.

Perry also set dates about once a month for status hearings and wants the trial to start May 9, 2011.

Thanks trimm! ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Sister on May 07, 2010, 09:40:47 PM
Thanks akmom on your take on Joseph Jordan.

I have only been involved in one search -- Sarah Foxwell this past Christmas.  It is a humbling experience.  It is beyond me why someone would want to become famous or infamous from it.  For me, it was so painful to know why I was searching -- on the one hand hoping to find her and on the other hand, hoping she wouldn't be found as she was.  To try and capitalize on this in anyway, is in my opinion, deplorable.  I know for sure that is not what TES is all about.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Babybear on May 07, 2010, 10:43:16 PM
Because Dr. G was unable to establish the COD, I'm not sure that the state can prove her death was "cruel". They can certainly insinuate that it was, and because of the duct tape around Caylee's mouth and skull, we can go a step further and assume that she died by suffocation at the hands of Casey Anthony. They only have to meet one standard, so I doubt it matters to them which one will apply.

As far as the A's...I don't see them supporting the notion that Casey's home life was abusive, sexually, physically, verbally or otherwise. Their quest was to show the world what an idyllic, wonderful, supportive family she was from. They are obviously lunatics, but I think that would be "over the line" even for them.

Hi Curly.....I agree re: the A's..........they will never go for taking the blame for KC being a murderer.  I think a jury is going to look at the duct tape as cruel and will not be able to get past it...the can be no reason, no excuse..the duct tape will be the key, that along with not reporting Catlee missing until FORCED to, that gets her a guilty verdict.

Hi Sunny and all---I think that even though the state can't prove COD, when the jury sees the photos and probably videos of the little skull with hair and the duct tape over the mouth and nose, that will be enough.  We haven't seen those photos, but I can't imagine seeing them and not knowing how she died.  Just hearing about it is dreadful.

I don't think the Anthonys will ever agree to saying Casey was abused in any way. They are much too arrogant to admit to any wrong-doing whatsoever.  They are accomplished liars and have grown better at it as the months pass.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on May 08, 2010, 12:37:15 AM
Because Dr. G was unable to establish the COD, I'm not sure that the state can prove her death was "cruel". They can certainly insinuate that it was, and because of the duct tape around Caylee's mouth and skull, we can go a step further and assume that she died by suffocation at the hands of Casey Anthony. They only have to meet one standard, so I doubt it matters to them which one will apply.

As far as the A's...I don't see them supporting the notion that Casey's home life was abusive, sexually, physically, verbally or otherwise. Their quest was to show the world what an idyllic, wonderful, supportive family she was from. They are obviously lunatics, but I think that would be "over the line" even for them.

Hi Curly.....I agree re: the A's..........they will never go for taking the blame for KC being a murderer.  I think a jury is going to look at the duct tape as cruel and will not be able to get past it...the can be no reason, no excuse..the duct tape will be the key, that along with not reporting Catlee missing until FORCED to, that gets her a guilty verdict.

The duct tape and not reporting a baby missing for 31 days...can't get past either one of them!




Absolutely. That's the whole case as far as I'm concerned. The other evidence is just an added plus for the prosecution.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on May 08, 2010, 07:26:53 AM
I love me some Judge Perry but did anyone else feel as I do regarding the budget hearing that he pretty much gave the defense everything they ask for concerning experts..to me it sounded as if everyone was from out of state.  Now thinking is this so that the defense can't say they weren't given a fair trial??? Could that be the strategy and if so boy do I feel for other people out there that couldn't afford to receive this kind of treatment as well....not stating that everyone is guilty just the same afforded rights that MISS ANTHONY(Bozo speaking)has received.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 08, 2010, 08:04:03 AM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony's Expert Dr.Henry Lee Tampers With Evidence
05/08/10


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on May 08, 2010, 08:59:19 AM
I love me some Judge Perry but did anyone else feel as I do regarding the budget hearing that he pretty much gave the defense everything they ask for concerning experts..to me it sounded as if everyone was from out of state.  Now thinking is this so that the defense can't say they weren't given a fair trial??? Could that be the strategy and if so boy do I feel for other people out there that couldn't afford to receive this kind of treatment as well....not stating that everyone is guilty just the same afforded rights that MISS ANTHONY(Bozo speaking)has received.

I was thinking that way,  but if they really all have done more than 50% of the work required it would cost more to dismiss them, and  hire another new group who would then have to start from scratch.  AS long as they are willing to take  the budget prices JAC sets it probably doesn't matter. 
"Big names" like Henry Lee is what Baez goes after - I guess he isn't aware of what HLee did in the Phil Spector case-   as Bill Sheaffer said in his post hearing summary,  once your reputation has gone, it has gone....   he would have been better off hiring from Florida. To me it says that you have no confidence in your case, expecting that Celebrity Status will dazzle some Jurors... 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on May 08, 2010, 09:21:02 AM
I love me some Judge Perry but did anyone else feel as I do regarding the budget hearing that he pretty much gave the defense everything they ask for concerning experts..to me it sounded as if everyone was from out of state.  Now thinking is this so that the defense can't say they weren't given a fair trial??? Could that be the strategy and if so boy do I feel for other people out there that couldn't afford to receive this kind of treatment as well....not stating that everyone is guilty just the same afforded rights that MISS ANTHONY(Bozo speaking)has received.

I was thinking that way,  but if they really all have done more than 50% of the work required it would cost more to dismiss them, and  hire another new group who would then have to start from scratch.  AS long as they are willing to take  the budget prices JAC sets it probably doesn't matter. 
"Big names" like Henry Lee is what Baez goes after - I guess he isn't aware of what HLee did in the Phil Spector case-   as Bill Sheaffer said in his post hearing summary,  once your reputation has gone, it has gone....   he would have been better off hiring from Florida. To me it says that you have no confidence in your case, expecting that Celebrity Status will dazzle some Jurors... 

I do agree with the amount of work they have done, I'm no expert in anything but it seemed to me that if they (forensic anthropologist) haven't started any work as according to the statement made by prosecutors then why keep them? uggh maybe I'm just beyond thinking fair anymore with this case..What really got my goat so to speak is that the defense could keep Barrett and how important to MISS ANTHONY(Bozo speaking) is and how she could be more important then the Lead Defense attorneys...Oh please the way Baez talked it sounded as if she was MISS ANTHONY'S only friend and dear judge you just can't take her away...uugghh Perry granted it.  That's when my blood pressure rose!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on May 08, 2010, 09:29:21 AM
Thanks akmom on your take on Joseph Jordan.

I have only been involved in one search -- Sarah Foxwell this past Christmas.  It is a humbling experience.  It is beyond me why someone would want to become famous or infamous from it.  For me, it was so painful to know why I was searching -- on the one hand hoping to find her and on the other hand, hoping she wouldn't be found as she was.  To try and capitalize on this in anyway, is in my opinion, deplorable.  I know for sure that is not what TES is all about.

I commend you for searching.  I have wondered whether I would have what it takes to search.  I am not sure I could take finding a person that has passed on.  It would be so hard and I always feel for those people who do.  I do not know how they handle what they find.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on May 08, 2010, 09:32:31 AM
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Oh please the way Baez talked it sounded as if she was MISS ANTHONY'S only friend and dear judge you just can't take her away...uugghh Perry granted it.  That's when my blood pressure rose!

What a crazy and telling thing, for it to sound like that person is her friend.  Really telling when all of your friends are not really those party buddies you had, but people paid to try to save your life....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on May 08, 2010, 09:34:27 AM
Thanks akmom on your take on Joseph Jordan.

Missed this last night, you are welcome. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 08, 2010, 09:55:13 AM
Thanks akmom on your take on Joseph Jordan.

Missed this last night, you are welcome. 
I believe he started out with good intentions, and then something happened along the way, at least that is my take on him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 08, 2010, 11:05:02 AM
Thanks akmom on your take on Joseph Jordan.

Missed this last night, you are welcome. 
I believe he started out with good intentions, and then something happened along the way, at least that is my take on him.
I agree with you nr. 

Like many others involved ... he seems to have found that he relishes the spotlight of his 15 minutes.  This case has attracted and created more fame wh*res than any other I've seen.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 08, 2010, 11:09:08 AM
Thanks akmom on your take on Joseph Jordan.

I have only been involved in one search -- Sarah Foxwell this past Christmas.  It is a humbling experience.  It is beyond me why someone would want to become famous or infamous from it.  For me, it was so painful to know why I was searching -- on the one hand hoping to find her and on the other hand, hoping she wouldn't be found as she was.  To try and capitalize on this in anyway, is in my opinion, deplorable.  I know for sure that is not what TES is all about.

I so agree with you;   It really must be in fact, an emotional experience like no other.  Kudos to you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 08, 2010, 11:10:48 AM
Because Dr. G was unable to establish the COD, I'm not sure that the state can prove her death was "cruel". They can certainly insinuate that it was, and because of the duct tape around Caylee's mouth and skull, we can go a step further and assume that she died by suffocation at the hands of Casey Anthony. They only have to meet one standard, so I doubt it matters to them which one will apply.

As far as the A's...I don't see them supporting the notion that Casey's home life was abusive, sexually, physically, verbally or otherwise. Their quest was to show the world what an idyllic, wonderful, supportive family she was from. They are obviously lunatics, but I think that would be "over the line" even for them.

Hi Curly.....I agree re: the A's..........they will never go for taking the blame for KC being a murderer.  I think a jury is going to look at the duct tape as cruel and will not be able to get past it...the can be no reason, no excuse..the duct tape will be the key, that along with not reporting Catlee missing until FORCED to, that gets her a guilty verdict.

Hi Sunny and all---I think that even though the state can't prove COD, when the jury sees the photos and probably videos of the little skull with hair and the duct tape over the mouth and nose, that will be enough.  We haven't seen those photos, but I can't imagine seeing them and not knowing how she died.  Just hearing about it is dreadful.

I don't think the Anthonys will ever agree to saying Casey was abused in any way. They are much too arrogant to admit to any wrong-doing whatsoever.  They are accomplished liars and have grown better at it as the months pass.

Their hardness still shocks me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 08, 2010, 11:19:36 AM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony's Expert Dr.Henry Lee Tampers With Evidence
05/08/10

Wow ...thanks for posting--I knew there was a cloud over something he did in this case, but didn't know the details.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Western Observr on May 08, 2010, 12:15:59 PM
I love me some Judge Perry but did anyone else feel as I do regarding the budget hearing that he pretty much gave the defense everything they ask for concerning experts..to me it sounded as if everyone was from out of state.  Now thinking is this so that the defense can't say they weren't given a fair trial??? Could that be the strategy and if so boy do I feel for other people out there that couldn't afford to receive this kind of treatment as well....not stating that everyone is guilty just the same afforded rights that MISS ANTHONY(Bozo speaking)has received.

I was thinking that way,  but if they really all have done more than 50% of the work required it would cost more to dismiss them, and  hire another new group who would then have to start from scratch.  AS long as they are willing to take  the budget prices JAC sets it probably doesn't matter. 
"Big names" like Henry Lee is what Baez goes after - I guess he isn't aware of what HLee did in the Phil Spector case-   as Bill Sheaffer said in his post hearing summary,  once your reputation has gone, it has gone....   he would have been better off hiring from Florida. To me it says that you have no confidence in your case, expecting that Celebrity Status will dazzle some Jurors... 

I do agree with the amount of work they have done, I'm no expert in anything but it seemed to me that if they (forensic anthropologist) haven't started any work as according to the statement made by prosecutors then why keep them? uggh maybe I'm just beyond thinking fair anymore with this case..What really got my goat so to speak is that the defense could keep Barrett and how important to MISS ANTHONY(Bozo speaking) is and how she could be more important then the Lead Defense attorneys...Oh please the way Baez talked it sounded as if she was MISS ANTHONY'S only friend and dear judge you just can't take her away...uugghh Perry granted it.  That's when my blood pressure rose!

Yes, I was amazed that the Mitigation specialist had already done 380 hours of work and was expecting to do almost 700 in total IIRC..  I wonder if the average inmate gets that amount of time,   I sincerely doubt that they do.    I think touring the country trying to get every minute piece of information about her is excessive.  We can see from the other family members here how she got to be as irresponsible and selfish as she is, but as much as I loathe Cindy I don't think she should be held responsible for what Casey did- and I don't think their relationship is an excuse for what Casey did, she should do what other young adults do when resentful of parental controls, get a job, get a life and move out   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: suzyinpgh on May 08, 2010, 12:45:57 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony's Expert Dr.Henry Lee Tampers With Evidence
05/08/10

Hello everyone.   I thought I would come out of lurkdom and ask a question.  If (Henwy) Lee is called to testify at the trial, can his tampering with evidence be brought up by the prosecution?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 08, 2010, 01:06:25 PM
Just thought these might deserve another look-see:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597996#msg597996

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4278.msg597993#msg597993

ak, hint please....I am still trying to find the information regarding the A's trademarking Caylee's name and all I have found so far is a trademeark for the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation

So sorry Sunny, I have a bad habit of getting stuck on a point that bothers me while others move on.  LOL, that was still about where and when JJ searched.  I got into a tiff with him early on and cannot seem to move on.  Ignore me!!  Just call me unable to see the forest for the trees.  I try, but I always seem to be behind!!! ::MonkeyCool::

ak, if you go on the wftv site -- there are transcripts of JJordan's interviews.  Sorry I don't know how to bring them forward, but they are enlightening, particularly as he talks about Laura working for bozo.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/22918297/detail.html

Thanks---moral of this story:  Do not record people without their consent!  Poor Joe...He sounds like a speciman from Divorce Court Walking Wounded!!  lol ;  Morty & Laura sound pretty tricky, imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 08, 2010, 01:08:43 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony's Expert Dr.Henry Lee Tampers With Evidence
05/08/10

Hello everyone.   I thought I would come out of lurkdom and ask a question.  If (Henwy) Lee is called to testify at the trial, can his tampering with evidence be brought up by the prosecution?

Good question.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 08, 2010, 01:11:33 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony's Expert Dr.Henry Lee Tampers With Evidence
05/08/10

Wow ...thanks for posting--I knew there was a cloud over something he did in this case, but didn't know the details.
I will never forget what Lee did in Lana's case, not one word out of his mouth would I ever believe. And I will also bet, come trial time, he will be hiding out of the country again.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 08, 2010, 01:12:24 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony's Expert Dr.Henry Lee Tampers With Evidence
05/08/10

Hello everyone.   I thought I would come out of lurkdom and ask a question.  If (Henwy) Lee is called to testify at the trial, can his tampering with evidence be brought up by the prosecution?

Good question.
I believe the answer is yes, that is why I don't see him being a part of this case, imo.


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Post by: Sister on May 08, 2010, 01:22:38 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony's Expert Dr.Henry Lee Tampers With Evidence
05/08/10

Hello everyone.   I thought I would come out of lurkdom and ask a question.  If (Henwy) Lee is called to testify at the trial, can his tampering with evidence be brought up by the prosecution?

Good question.

The answer is yes -- any "expert" can and will be asked about their reputation/credentials -- in fact, any witness can be asked about their background if it has relevance to what they are testifying to, etc.


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Post by: Curly on May 08, 2010, 01:24:45 PM
I love me some Judge Perry but did anyone else feel as I do regarding the budget hearing that he pretty much gave the defense everything they ask for concerning experts..to me it sounded as if everyone was from out of state.  Now thinking is this so that the defense can't say they weren't given a fair trial??? Could that be the strategy and if so boy do I feel for other people out there that couldn't afford to receive this kind of treatment as well....not stating that everyone is guilty just the same afforded rights that MISS ANTHONY(Bozo speaking)has received.

I was thinking that way,  but if they really all have done more than 50% of the work required it would cost more to dismiss them, and  hire another new group who would then have to start from scratch.  AS long as they are willing to take  the budget prices JAC sets it probably doesn't matter. 
"Big names" like Henry Lee is what Baez goes after - I guess he isn't aware of what HLee did in the Phil Spector case-   as Bill Sheaffer said in his post hearing summary,  once your reputation has gone, it has gone....   he would have been better off hiring from Florida. To me it says that you have no confidence in your case, expecting that Celebrity Status will dazzle some Jurors... 

I do agree with the amount of work they have done, I'm no expert in anything but it seemed to me that if they (forensic anthropologist) haven't started any work as according to the statement made by prosecutors then why keep them? uggh maybe I'm just beyond thinking fair anymore with this case..What really got my goat so to speak is that the defense could keep Barrett and how important to MISS ANTHONY(Bozo speaking) is and how she could be more important then the Lead Defense attorneys...Oh please the way Baez talked it sounded as if she was MISS ANTHONY'S only friend and dear judge you just can't take her away...uugghh Perry granted it.  That's when my blood pressure rose!

The reason the Ms. Barrett thing doesn't bother me is in addition to Casey, she's gotten the A's (according to Bozo) to trust and open up to her. This is some feat! I look forward to what she'll have to say.


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Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 08, 2010, 01:27:11 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony's Expert Dr.Henry Lee Tampers With Evidence
05/08/10

Hello everyone.   I thought I would come out of lurkdom and ask a question.  If (Henwy) Lee is called to testify at the trial, can his tampering with evidence be brought up by the prosecution?
Honestly I don't know the legal answer to that ... but am thinking that might be a really muddy area that the State can exploit when Dr. Lee is being questioned to prove he is an "expert witness?" - maybe they could ask if he's ever been admonished by the court for evidence tampering? ... I'm sure the defense will be very careful not to mention the Spector trial in any way shape or form ... because then I think it could really come in.

Of course I'm not sure whether Judge Fidler "ruling" that HL tampered with evidence ... qualifies legally has an admonishment.  Fidler would not go so far as to hold him in contempt ... unfortunately.



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Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 08, 2010, 01:54:19 PM
The reason the Ms. Barrett thing doesn't bother me is in addition to Casey, she's gotten the A's (according to Bozo) to trust and open up to her. This is some feat! I look forward to what she'll have to say.
They may have opened up to her ... but IMO they will just feed her more of their lies ... it's the A way!

I'm sure by now they've concocted some story to go along with Casey's allegations that she was abused - but they will say she has it mixed up in her mind ... and that it was NOT a member of their oh so perfect little immediate family ... it'll be some long dead distant family member ... or an old neighbor ... family friend ... post man ... milk man ... delivery guy ... cable guy ... someone they casually brushed up against in the supermarket ... dog groomer ... (you get the picture!)   ::MonkeyDevil::


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Post by: Babybear on May 08, 2010, 01:58:09 PM
Hello Monkeys--

I had a brilliant post (OK, it wasn't brilliant) ready to go and I got booted.  I'm quite sure that the Spector fiasco can be brought up when Dr. Lee "Table have four legs, only got three"  presents his credentials on the stand prior to his testimony.  There's another instance which indicates to me that he will shade his testimony according to whichever side is paying him.  He was never called to account for this because it was discovered after the Simpson trial.  Lee said there was a bloody footprint at the scene where Simpson killed his ex-wife.  He said it wasn't Simpson's and it wasn't identified.  After Simpson was found not guilty by that jury which should have pled insanity itself, it was discovered that the "Bloody footprint" was an impression in the cement put there by a workman when the sidewalk was being laid.  Blood had pooled in the impression.  I don't think one would have to be a forensic pathologist to determine an impression in cement from a genuine bloody footprint but apparently that inept prosecution team missed it.

In the JonBenet Ramsey case Lee said after his inspection of the evidence "Table have four legs, only got three."  Guess he never found the fourth one.

IMO he is completely discredited.  I hope the prosecution is prepared for him and judging by their work so far, I think they are ready for anything.


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Post by: Sister on May 08, 2010, 02:00:08 PM
Trimm posted this news article on another thread here at sm.  Sorry I am not good at moving/quoting things from other threads.  This article gives good insight into what a defense is up against and obligated to provide for a person either found guilty of murder or is a self-confessed killer.  Again, apologies to Trimm for not being able to quote back to the other thread.


http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2010/jan/10/defending-self-confessed-killer-mesac-damas-likely/
Defending self-confessed killer Mesac Damas likely to be very costly

    * By STEVEN BEARDSLEY
    * Posted January 10, 2010 at 6:44 p.m.
The effort to save the life of Mesac Damas gains full steam in 2010.

As the self-confessed killer of his wife and five children remains in a holding pattern in jail, his lawyers will begin a long — and expensive — quest to answer a crucial question: Who, exactly, is Mesac Damas?

Jurors may lean upon their discoveries to determine if the native Haitian should receive the death penalty or be spared, criminal attorneys say. The innocence-guilt phase of the trial will be straightforward, they forecast. The penalty phase, comparable to a second trial, will be hard fought.

“The only question is whether he lives or dies,” said Fort Myers criminal attorney John Mills.
Damas, 33, is charged with six counts of first-degree murder for the slayings of his wife, Guerline Damas, 32, and his five children. The children were Meshach “Zack,” 9; Maven, 6; Marven, 5; Megan, 3; and Morgan, 19 months.

The victims were discovered on Sept. 22 in various rooms of the family’s North Naples house. Each had a cut throat and multiple stab wounds.

Damas fled to Haiti, where he was captured days later. He told a Daily News reporter that his mother-in-law’s influence made him commit the killings and that he wanted to be executed. Prosecutors filed a notice of intent to seek the death penalty in late November.

The suspect remains at the Naples Jail Center, where he is on suicide watch, Collier County Sheriff’s officials say. He is allowed no visitors, save his lawyer, Deputy Public Defender Mike Orlando.
Orlando’s road is a difficult and pricey one, according to Miami-Dade County assistant public defender Stephen Harper, who works capital cases in the 11th Judicial Circuit and has 25 years of experience as a defender.

“The defense has a tremendous burden of looking at everything about this man and his life and synthesizing what this man did, when he did it and why he did it,” Harper said.

That burden means identifying and paying experts, from psychiatrists to brain scan analysts to guides and translators in Haiti, where attorneys or their aides will dig deep into Damas’ past. Education records, medical visits, even a test for pollutants in the tap water at Damas’ childhood home in Haiti may be scrutinized.

“Literally from pre-natal,” said Mills.
Jurors must receive the fullest picture of Damas and his background if they are to judge his life, both attorneys said. In adherence to Florida law, should Damas be convicted, the panel will be asked to weigh mitigating factors presented by defense attorneys against the aggravating factors of the case, such as its brutality and the fact that children were killed. By majority vote, jurors will choose to recommend either death or life in prison. The judge will make the final decision.

The question of mental illness may loom large in the penalty phase. Questions of intent, self-control and awareness of right and wrong could be argued, Harper said.

Orlando will have help in his task. He’ll name a second attorney to aid in the defense, and he may hire or appoint someone to coordinate Damas’ background investigation. But he’ll be faced with difficult decisions of what he needs, how much he can spend and whether he should — or even can — ask for more money.

Public Defender Kathy Smith said that although her office will provide Orlando whatever he needs, a tight budget can’t be ignored. The office worked about 50,000 cases in 2008, she said. Funding is set at a flat rate by the Legislature.
We have to make choices as to where we spend the limited dollars, keeping in mind the Florida Bar requirement, we prepare the mitigating factors,” she said.

When is one test too many? How much should attorneys pay for experts, and of what quality? Damas’ counsel may grapple with such questions.

“I’d say the defense is going to have to fight very, very hard to get the resources to defend this man,” said Harper.

It is a fight that will likely take place on paper, as Damas waits in his jail cell.


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Post by: Curly on May 08, 2010, 02:13:21 PM
Interesting article, but this man confessed and asked to be killed.
Why delve into his past at the expense of the taxpayers?
I think his wish should be granted.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 08, 2010, 03:04:19 PM
Hey Sister.   ::HelloKitty::
Yep,that article was interesting.The case broke my heart.Damas is an animal.


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Post by: Wyks on May 08, 2010, 03:29:00 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony's Expert Dr.Henry Lee Tampers With Evidence
05/08/10

At one point, Dr. Lee did have an excellent reputation.  But in at least three cases lately, he has tampered with evidence, been under suspicion of tampering with evidence, and given completely absurd testimony.  Why is he even being allowed to testify as an 'expert' ever again???  How can anyone believe a dayum thing he says? 

I can see where Dr. Lie oops Lee would actually be a detriment to the defense, and the state allowing that.  Yet what if his testomony in this case includes lies and manipulations that actually help the defense?  Justice for Caylee is too precious for Dr. Lee to be allowed anywhere near enough to help muck it up, IMO.

With his history, it seems he 'should be' disqualified forevermore in a courtroom as an 'expert' witness. 



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Post by: Curly on May 08, 2010, 03:52:25 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony's Expert Dr.Henry Lee Tampers With Evidence
05/08/10

At one point, Dr. Lee did have an excellent reputation.  But in at least three cases lately, he has tampered with evidence, been under suspicion of tampering with evidence, and given completely absurd testimony.  Why is he even being allowed to testify as an 'expert' ever again???  How can anyone believe a dayum thing he says? 

I can see where Dr. Lie oops Lee would actually be a detriment to the defense, and the state allowing that.  Yet what if his testomony in this case includes lies and manipulations that actually help the defense?  Justice for Caylee is too precious for Dr. Lee to be allowed anywhere near enough to help muck it up, IMO.

With his history, it seems he 'should be' disqualified forevermore in a courtroom as an 'expert' witness. 



I agree, Wyks. It seemed to me that Bozo was trying to shy away from Dr. Lie, but for some reason the judge was insisting that he was their man.
I'm sure the state will attempt to rip him a new one. I already have doubts that he found 17 hairs that were overlooked by LE. Seems like a lot. I can understand missing 2 or 3, but 17? Come on. Sounds like he conveniently may have had those 17 hairs on his person somewhere courtesy of, uhm...Cindy Anthony? Not stating this as fact, but not out of the realm of possibility.


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Post by: Wyks on May 08, 2010, 04:09:15 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony's Expert Dr.Henry Lee Tampers With Evidence
05/08/10

At one point, Dr. Lee did have an excellent reputation.  But in at least three cases lately, he has tampered with evidence, been under suspicion of tampering with evidence, and given completely absurd testimony.  Why is he even being allowed to testify as an 'expert' ever again???  How can anyone believe a dayum thing he says? 

I can see where Dr. Lie oops Lee would actually be a detriment to the defense, and the state allowing that.  Yet what if his testomony in this case includes lies and manipulations that actually help the defense?  Justice for Caylee is too precious for Dr. Lee to be allowed anywhere near enough to help muck it up, IMO.

With his history, it seems he 'should be' disqualified forevermore in a courtroom as an 'expert' witness. 



I agree, Wyks. It seemed to me that Bozo was trying to shy away from Dr. Lie, but for some reason the judge was insisting that he was their man.
I'm sure the state will attempt to rip him a new one. I already have doubts that he found 17 hairs that were overlooked by LE. Seems like a lot. I can understand missing 2 or 3, but 17? Come on. Sounds like he conveniently may have had those 17 hairs on his person somewhere courtesy of, uhm...Cindy Anthony? Not stating this as fact, but not out of the realm of possibility.

Could very well be, Curly!  Cindy held back the brush that Caylee actually used, didn't she?  And if so, maybe those hairs were from that. 

Maybe the defense chose some 'experts' that they knew ahead of time would/could be manipulative, knowing they would/could help them in their dirty dealings? 

Whateverrrrrrrrrrr happened to the 'good old days', when one expected and was expected to, tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.  ??  Where the state fought to find the truth, and the defense fought to make sure their client was treated fairly in the finding of that truth.  ?? 

Seems that all the defense in many cases do now is to fight truth and justice at any cost.  Also seems that the defense in many cases just are about who is the better liar, them or their client.  As if their client doesn't really matter, that it's more important to make a name for themselves. 

Whatever happened to truth and justice?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::
   


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Post by: Sister on May 08, 2010, 04:24:36 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony's Expert Dr.Henry Lee Tampers With Evidence
05/08/10

At one point, Dr. Lee did have an excellent reputation.  But in at least three cases lately, he has tampered with evidence, been under suspicion of tampering with evidence, and given completely absurd testimony.  Why is he even being allowed to testify as an 'expert' ever again???  How can anyone believe a dayum thing he says? 

I can see where Dr. Lie oops Lee would actually be a detriment to the defense, and the state allowing that.  Yet what if his testomony in this case includes lies and manipulations that actually help the defense?  Justice for Caylee is too precious for Dr. Lee to be allowed anywhere near enough to help muck it up, IMO.

With his history, it seems he 'should be' disqualified forevermore in a courtroom as an 'expert' witness. 


I agree, Wyks. It seemed to me that Bozo was trying to shy away from Dr. Lie, but for some reason the judge was insisting that he was their man.
I'm sure the state will attempt to rip him a new one. I already have doubts that he found 17 hairs that were overlooked by LE. Seems like a lot. I can understand missing 2 or 3, but 17? Come on. Sounds like he conveniently may have had those 17 hairs on his person somewhere courtesy of, uhm...Cindy Anthony? Not stating this as fact, but not out of the realm of possibility.

Could very well be, Curly!  Cindy held back the brush that Caylee actually used, didn't she?  And if so, maybe those hairs were from that. 

Maybe the defense chose some 'experts' that they knew ahead of time would/could be manipulative, knowing they would/could help them in their dirty dealings? 

Whateverrrrrrrrrrr happened to the 'good old days', when one expected and was expected to, tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.  ??  Where the state fought to find the truth, and the defense fought to make sure their client was treated fairly in the finding of that truth.  ?? 

Seems that all the defense in many cases do now is to fight truth and justice at any cost.  Also seems that the defense in many cases just are about who is the better liar, them or their client.  As if their client doesn't really matter, that it's more important to make a name for themselves. 

Whatever happened to truth and justice?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::
   
Wyks and Curly, I agree.  One thing just keeps nagging at me -- why would you want inept counsel or witnesses or experts -- could the possible answer be to get a mistrial?  I just keep feeling bozo will milk this cow until she hasn't got another drop.  He could have this as his only case for the rest of his pitiful life.
 ::CowWave::


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Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 08, 2010, 05:06:47 PM
Friday, May 07, 2010
Will Casey Anthony Go To Trial?

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/05/will-casey-anthony-go-to-trial.html




Now, there's a gal to bring home and meet mother!

Hi, Mom? Yeah, it's me, your son. Mom! It's me, Norman. Yes, I have someone for you to meet..."

Will Casey Anthony go to trial? In the comments section: give your reply and your reason; even if your reason is just a "gut feeling".

My answer is nothing more than speculation; and is not based upon statement analysis because I don't have her statements about this subject, but would like to review the statements made by attorneys who represent her and analyze them.

Here is the pro and con. My thinking is that she won't go to trial because it is not in her best interest. I think if she does go to trial, it won't be with Mason. He is far too self-serving of his reputation. It won't be with Andrea Lyon. She is far too concerned with her record. If it is with Baez, it may be his last trial, as he has walked the bounds of the law, at the end of the tether, perhaps going too far.

As Statement Analysis showed in an earlier post, he did have an inappropriate relationship with Casey Anthony. Should they go to trial and she be convicted, she will likely make the disclosure.

Here are the basic arguments:

1. Casey is blind to her own lies and will go to trial, demand to go on the stand, and then readily sink herself with her goofy Nanny story.

I think that IF she were to go to trial NO ONE would be able to stop her from taking the stand. She is that arrogant. Can anyone imagine being 22 years old, accused of murder, and then to drive with detectives to a business, enter the building and walk down the hall to an office that doesn't exist? This is impressive. Her faith in her own lies is stunning. People like this do NOT necessarily pass polygraphs. She knew she was lying and likely used it as a stall technique, and later offered that she was just confused, thinking of places Caylee might have been. (is this because Caylee frequented the hallways of Universal?)

I used to believe that pathological liars deceived themselves so much that they would naturally pass a polygraph. I was wrong. A polygraph is only as good as the interviewer's ability to enter into the subject's internal dictionary. For instance, a child molester might pass a poly because he was never asked if he "tickled" the victim. "Tickled" is part of his personal dictionary. Child molesters don't consider what they have done to be "harm" because, they think, inflicted no physical injury.

Casey knew she was lying and even said so.

2. Casey is a narcissist.

I agree. She loves herself more than anyone else. In one move, she removed Caylee from obstructing her lifestyle AND punished her mother for being, well, for being Cindy.

You or I do not need to be body language experts to see that she is absolutely LOVING the attention of court! Baez may not want her to be there, but she loves it.

Kathi Belich: When Casey was arrested for the TV cameras to see, Kathi yelled out, "Casey, why do you strut like that?"

It was a GREAT question.

Because Casey looks out for number one, I would think that she won't take the stand because she is going to get the death penalty. If she takes a plea, she will get much less. Self interest rules the day.

So, since Casey is a narcissist, she will not go to trial.


3. Casey is a narcissist.

Therefore, she will go to trial and WILL soak up all the attention she can possibly get because in her selfish mind, she knows that a life sentence, or 30 years, is not much different than a plea for 25, and that if she is given the death penalty, she will talk her way out of being put to death because of her claims of molestation and abuse at the hands of George, Cindy, and Lee.

So since Casey is a narcissist, she will go to trial.

4. Lawyer self interest versus Casey's self interest.

Baez on TV this week was amazing. He used more qualifiers, and had more changes in his verb tenses than I could keep up with. He employs the language of deception so much that I lost my place repeatedly! I wanted to scream at the prosecution to stand up and ask him why he lied! I wish they had someone trained in Statement Analysis on the table, and could simply have the prosecution question things that Baez says, regularly. He is deceptive and is not skilled at it, in spite of years of practice. Casey is better than Baez, though they are both deceptive people.

Perhaps Baez doesn't mind crashing and burning his career for Casey but Lyon and Mason have no such interest.

In fact,I wonder why these philanthropists are donating their time to the Croslin clan, pro bono.

I am going to stand by my prediction until something or someone comes along to persuade me otherwise:

Casey doesn't go to trial because it is not in her best interest and she comes first. I am, by no means, steady on this view. If the plea is not generous enough to let her out of jail in time for her to still do some partying in life, she will go down fighting.

For Baez, to accept a plea is not something he will do until he has milked the taxpayers for every penny, and he has milked out as much fame (or infamy, for infamy sells) possible. His self interest is a powerful drive in its own rite.

Even as I type this, I find myself vacillating between the two possibilities.

It comes down to which drive is stronger?

The drive to get out of prison, or the drive to be the center of attention.
Posted by Seamus O Riley


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Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 08, 2010, 05:35:45 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony's Expert Dr.Henry Lee Tampers With Evidence
05/08/10

At one point, Dr. Lee did have an excellent reputation.  But in at least three cases lately, he has tampered with evidence, been under suspicion of tampering with evidence, and given completely absurd testimony.  Why is he even being allowed to testify as an 'expert' ever again???  How can anyone believe a dayum thing he says? 

I can see where Dr. Lie oops Lee would actually be a detriment to the defense, and the state allowing that.  Yet what if his testomony in this case includes lies and manipulations that actually help the defense?  Justice for Caylee is too precious for Dr. Lee to be allowed anywhere near enough to help muck it up, IMO.

With his history, it seems he 'should be' disqualified forevermore in a courtroom as an 'expert' witness. 



Wasn't there some instance too where they caught him "tampering" with something in KC's car where they had it impounded?


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Post by: Gypsy DD on May 08, 2010, 05:41:43 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony's Expert Dr.Henry Lee Tampers With Evidence
05/08/10

Hello everyone.   I thought I would come out of lurkdom and ask a question.  If (Henwy) Lee is called to testify at the trial, can his tampering with evidence be brought up by the prosecution?

Good question.
I believe the answer is yes, that is why I don't see him being a part of this case, imo.

Then why in the world would these fools pick Dr Lee.  You know on cross exam the prosecutors are going to tear him up for the fingernail.  The minute I heard he found a hair in this case..I thought "he's at it again"


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 08, 2010, 05:51:43 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony's Expert Dr.Henry Lee Tampers With Evidence
05/08/10

Hello everyone.   I thought I would come out of lurkdom and ask a question.  If (Henwy) Lee is called to testify at the trial, can his tampering with evidence be brought up by the prosecution?

Good question.
I believe the answer is yes, that is why I don't see him being a part of this case, imo.

Then why in the world would these fools pick Dr Lee.  You know on cross exam the prosecutors are going to tear him up for the fingernail.  The minute I heard he found a hair in this case..I thought "he's at it again"
I know, and he will be ripped apart. I will bet come trial, there will be another expert  ::MonkeyTongue:: in his place.


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Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 08, 2010, 05:58:25 PM
Thanks akmom on your take on Joseph Jordan.

Missed this last night, you are welcome. 
I believe he started out with good intentions, and then something happened along the way, at least that is my take on him.

No one has asked but here is my take on JJ.  He was a man who was desperately trying to find Caylee because he was such an attached father himself.  I actually do know him somewhat personally. He went out every day he was off from work and searched. He enlisted many others in the area to help him search and he took tons of pictures and kept prolific notes on EVERYTHING. He is very detailed in all he does and a very humble man. He was searching day in and day out in all kinds of weather when no one else was. I have a LOT of pictures he took, many of which were not relevant at all but he took them everywhere he searched.

If I understand all this from reading what is available in the interviews, this woman who is a friend of the Anthonys (and I believe working with Bozo)TRIED to say that she searched with JJ where Caylee was found. It appears that she falsified some records of Tim's (Texas Equisearch)to make it appear the JJ searched with her.  She was one of their helpers on the searches who helped sign in volunteers.

JJ denies he EVER searched with her and denies the documents she provided were his signature. He was actually at work the day/days she had him listed. When she kept calling him originally, he "had a feeling" something was not right and recorded the conversations evidently. She kept pushing him to say that he "knew" her and had searched with her which he knew was not true. The recording was a mistake because of some law, but he kept it and gave it to LE just the same.

I think the woman is in serious trouble if she tries to testify that she was there where the body was as there is no one who will back her up and she evidently thought she could maniupulate JJ into thinking he did search with her.

In MY opinion JJ is a very nice guy who did nothing wrong and a LOT right trying day after day to find Caylee. He is a very humble guy and I do think this divorce has thrown him for a loop. I do know it was not expected by him and it caught him totally off guard.

I am sorry this happened to him but as usual ANYONE who has tried to help the Anthony's have tried to destroy. I hope he comes out this with no problems as I see him like Tim and Kronk as one of the good guys who did the right thing and was attacked over it.


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Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 08, 2010, 06:03:36 PM
And we all know the murder was cruel and atrocious. So that makes 6

I agree 6. I don't understand this Joe Jordan  thing either. As it was speculated that woman " former volunteer" of TES - sorry having a brain lapse- who basically lied. She said she was at the site where Caylee was found " Caylee was not there" when she was at Blanchard Park - with everyone else. Michelle? cant think of her name. Any way that she was a Plant *Possibly by the defense/ Anthony's and Kidfinders ... she is part of the Joe Jordan testimony.  The last time in court with Judge Strickland, Baez said he was waiting for Joe Jordan ....yet he never showed. Something is very fishy about the " Joe Jordan" witness ... My brain is not working I apologize.



I think JJ is going to be a valuable witness for the prosecution. (and not for just prosecuting KC either.)


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 08, 2010, 06:15:14 PM
Thanks Turbo for your info on Joseph  ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: Curly on May 08, 2010, 06:51:33 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony's Expert Dr.Henry Lee Tampers With Evidence
05/08/10

At one point, Dr. Lee did have an excellent reputation.  But in at least three cases lately, he has tampered with evidence, been under suspicion of tampering with evidence, and given completely absurd testimony.  Why is he even being allowed to testify as an 'expert' ever again???  How can anyone believe a dayum thing he says? 

I can see where Dr. Lie oops Lee would actually be a detriment to the defense, and the state allowing that.  Yet what if his testomony in this case includes lies and manipulations that actually help the defense?  Justice for Caylee is too precious for Dr. Lee to be allowed anywhere near enough to help muck it up, IMO.

With his history, it seems he 'should be' disqualified forevermore in a courtroom as an 'expert' witness. 



I agree, Wyks. It seemed to me that Bozo was trying to shy away from Dr. Lie, but for some reason the judge was insisting that he was their man.
I'm sure the state will attempt to rip him a new one. I already have doubts that he found 17 hairs that were overlooked by LE. Seems like a lot. I can understand missing 2 or 3, but 17? Come on. Sounds like he conveniently may have had those 17 hairs on his person somewhere courtesy of, uhm...Cindy Anthony? Not stating this as fact, but not out of the realm of possibility.

Could very well be, Curly!  Cindy held back the brush that Caylee actually used, didn't she?  And if so, maybe those hairs were from that. 

Maybe the defense chose some 'experts' that they knew ahead of time would/could be manipulative, knowing they would/could help them in their dirty dealings? 

Whateverrrrrrrrrrr happened to the 'good old days', when one expected and was expected to, tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.  ??  Where the state fought to find the truth, and the defense fought to make sure their client was treated fairly in the finding of that truth.  ?? 

Seems that all the defense in many cases do now is to fight truth and justice at any cost.  Also seems that the defense in many cases just are about who is the better liar, them or their client.  As if their client doesn't really matter, that it's more important to make a name for themselves. 

Whatever happened to truth and justice?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::
   

Seems that truth, justice and the American way died with Superman.

It was my impression that the judge practically forced Bozo to keep Dr. Lee on. Maybe judge Berry wants to have some fun with him. Bozo was hemming and hawing about it.
I do wonder if Dr. Lee can now refuse to participate?
Cindy did hold back Caylee's brush and it's just too coincidental that all that hair was found by Dr. Lee and "missed" by LE.


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Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 08, 2010, 07:00:50 PM
Someone refresh my memory please....
Mike Brooks is on "In Session" now talking about the chloroform levels in KC's trunk. He is saying there was ALSO a rag with "supposedly" chloroform on it.

I don't remember reading about a rag found in the trunk in discovery......anyone else ?

I do not remember that.   ::MonkeyCool:: 


I DO remember that............but I thought it was a washcloth for some reason.  I have that report, I will try to find what it said specifically. I also remember the kleenex/and/or paper towels with decomp on them in the trash bag.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 08, 2010, 07:03:45 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony's Expert Dr.Henry Lee Tampers With Evidence
05/08/10

At one point, Dr. Lee did have an excellent reputation.  But in at least three cases lately, he has tampered with evidence, been under suspicion of tampering with evidence, and given completely absurd testimony.  Why is he even being allowed to testify as an 'expert' ever again???  How can anyone believe a dayum thing he says? 

I can see where Dr. Lie oops Lee would actually be a detriment to the defense, and the state allowing that.  Yet what if his testomony in this case includes lies and manipulations that actually help the defense?  Justice for Caylee is too precious for Dr. Lee to be allowed anywhere near enough to help muck it up, IMO.

With his history, it seems he 'should be' disqualified forevermore in a courtroom as an 'expert' witness. 



Wasn't there some instance too where they caught him "tampering" with something in KC's car where they had it impounded?

It wouldn't surprise me at all.   ::MonkeyNoNo::   Read about a rag supposedly found in the trunk, was he the one who supposedly 'found' it? 

Wonder if Dr. Lee was on board with the defense when they wanted/demanded to be allowed at the crime scene?  I wouldn't let Dr. Lee within 5 miles of that crime scene.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

   


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Post by: Wyks on May 08, 2010, 07:11:35 PM
Thanks akmom on your take on Joseph Jordan.

Missed this last night, you are welcome. 
I believe he started out with good intentions, and then something happened along the way, at least that is my take on him.

No one has asked but here is my take on JJ.  He was a man who was desperately trying to find Caylee because he was such an attached father himself.  I actually do know him somewhat personally. He went out every day he was off from work and searched. He enlisted many others in the area to help him search and he took tons of pictures and kept prolific notes on EVERYTHING. He is very detailed in all he does and a very humble man. He was searching day in and day out in all kinds of weather when no one else was. I have a LOT of pictures he took, many of which were not relevant at all but he took them everywhere he searched.

If I understand all this from reading what is available in the interviews, this woman who is a friend of the Anthonys (and I believe working with Bozo)TRIED to say that she searched with JJ where Caylee was found. It appears that she falsified some records of Tim's (Texas Equisearch)to make it appear the JJ searched with her.  She was one of their helpers on the searches who helped sign in volunteers.

JJ denies he EVER searched with her and denies the documents she provided were his signature. He was actually at work the day/days she had him listed. When she kept calling him originally, he "had a feeling" something was not right and recorded the conversations evidently. She kept pushing him to say that he "knew" her and had searched with her which he knew was not true. The recording was a mistake because of some law, but he kept it and gave it to LE just the same.

I think the woman is in serious trouble if she tries to testify that she was there where the body was as there is no one who will back her up and she evidently thought she could maniupulate JJ into thinking he did search with her.

In MY opinion JJ is a very nice guy who did nothing wrong and a LOT right trying day after day to find Caylee. He is a very humble guy and I do think this divorce has thrown him for a loop. I do know it was not expected by him and it caught him totally off guard.

I am sorry this happened to him but as usual ANYONE who has tried to help the Anthony's have tried to destroy. I hope he comes out this with no problems as I see him like Tim and Kronk as one of the good guys who did the right thing and was attacked over it.

I don't know JJ, but Turbo I think you have the right idea here.  Sounds like he is an innocent trying hard for the cause.  And I agree with you, likely caught up along with the other innocents in this case who have been blamed or things about them downright turned inside out to be made to seem to be at fault. 

It does seem that whoever has tried to help the A's, or even to help in this case, have been turned on by the A's, eventually destroyed in the process.  Could be why they don't seem to have many friends/family standing by their side.  Those who have appeared to 'comfort' them etc, have long since gone by the wayside, run over by the A's express. 

Sadly. 
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 08, 2010, 07:19:32 PM

Could very well be, Curly!  Cindy held back the brush that Caylee actually used, didn't she?  And if so, maybe those hairs were from that. 

Maybe the defense chose some 'experts' that they knew ahead of time would/could be manipulative, knowing they would/could help them in their dirty dealings? 

Whateverrrrrrrrrrr happened to the 'good old days', when one expected and was expected to, tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.  ??  Where the state fought to find the truth, and the defense fought to make sure their client was treated fairly in the finding of that truth.  ?? 

Seems that all the defense in many cases do now is to fight truth and justice at any cost.  Also seems that the defense in many cases just are about who is the better liar, them or their client.  As if their client doesn't really matter, that it's more important to make a name for themselves. 

Whatever happened to truth and justice?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::
   

Seems that truth, justice and the American way died with Superman.

It was my impression that the judge practically forced Bozo to keep Dr. Lee on. Maybe judge Berry wants to have some fun with him. Bozo was hemming and hawing about it.
I do wonder if Dr. Lee can now refuse to participate?
Cindy did hold back Caylee's brush and it's just too coincidental that all that hair was found by Dr. Lee and "missed" by LE.


I agree! 

It will be interesting to watch and see if Dr. Lee makes it clear thru the trial.  Wasn't there an argument somewhere already that he had all those hours invested that couldn't be done over by someone else?  Or was in re to another expert?  If Dr. Lee, I don't see how the defense can argue that and then turn around and allow him to or make him step back.   Maybe Judge Perry wants Dr. Lee in there so the defense can continue to shoot themselves in the foot easier, dunno.  Weirder things have happened I guess. 

But am thinking that the state is gonna have a field day with Dr. Lee and his 'expert testimony'.  Can't wait to see that!  lol   ::piggy::


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Post by: Curly on May 08, 2010, 07:22:37 PM
I'm looking forward t that as well, Wyks.
And I hope by the end of his testimony they give him a big bag of Florida oranges. and not the good ones from Indian River.


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Post by: Miki Monkey on May 08, 2010, 07:36:44 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony's Expert Dr.Henry Lee Tampers With Evidence
05/08/10

Hello everyone.   I thought I would come out of lurkdom and ask a question.  If (Henwy) Lee is called to testify at the trial, can his tampering with evidence be brought up by the prosecution?

Good question.
I believe the answer is yes, that is why I don't see him being a part of this case, imo.

Then why in the world would these fools pick Dr Lee.  You know on cross exam the prosecutors are going to tear him up for the fingernail.  The minute I heard he found a hair in this case..I thought "he's at it again"
I know, and he will be ripped apart. I will bet come trial, there will be another expert  ::MonkeyTongue:: in his place.

Isn't it remarkable how birds of a dishonest feather flock together....
http://www.hecklerspray.com/phil-spector-trial-now-with-added-evidence-tampering/20078189.php (http://www.hecklerspray.com/phil-spector-trial-now-with-added-evidence-tampering/20078189.php)

Ordered to take the stand by [Judge] Fidler, Diamond told the court that he went to the crime scene with Shapiro, Baden, Caplan, famed forensic scientist Henry Lee and other members of Spector's defense team. There, Diamond said, he saw Caplan find a small white object and hand it to Baden. He said the object was then passed around to the rest of the defense team. "Dr. Baden did make mention of what the item was," Diamond said. "He said it was a fragment of a tooth … Everyone had seen the item in some capacity."

This whole defense crew is just nasty....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: loca on May 08, 2010, 07:50:57 PM

Could very well be, Curly!  Cindy held back the brush that Caylee actually used, didn't she?  And if so, maybe those hairs were from that. 

Maybe the defense chose some 'experts' that they knew ahead of time would/could be manipulative, knowing they would/could help them in their dirty dealings? 

Whateverrrrrrrrrrr happened to the 'good old days', when one expected and was expected to, tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.  ??  Where the state fought to find the truth, and the defense fought to make sure their client was treated fairly in the finding of that truth.  ?? 

Seems that all the defense in many cases do now is to fight truth and justice at any cost.  Also seems that the defense in many cases just are about who is the better liar, them or their client.  As if their client doesn't really matter, that it's more important to make a name for themselves. 

Whatever happened to truth and justice?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::
   

Seems that truth, justice and the American way died with Superman.

It was my impression that the judge practically forced Bozo to keep Dr. Lee on. Maybe judge Berry wants to have some fun with him. Bozo was hemming and hawing about it.
I do wonder if Dr. Lee can now refuse to participate?
Cindy did hold back Caylee's brush and it's just too coincidental that all that hair was found by Dr. Lee and "missed" by LE.


I agree! 

It will be interesting to watch and see if Dr. Lee makes it clear thru the trial.  Wasn't there an argument somewhere already that he had all those hours invested that couldn't be done over by someone else?  Or was in re to another expert?  If Dr. Lee, I don't see how the defense can argue that and then turn around and allow him to or make him step back.   Maybe Judge Perry wants Dr. Lee in there so the defense can continue to shoot themselves in the foot easier, dunno.  Weirder things have happened I guess. 

But am thinking that the state is gonna have a field day with Dr. Lee and his 'expert testimony'.  Can't wait to see that!  lol   ::piggy::


wks
nowdays it seems like the criminal has more rights than the victimized!! sadly caylee has no family members sitting on her side! while all the supporters sit on the side of the accused. Cindy and the whole bunch have done nothing to seek justice for their grandaughter. It has become a get rich by blood money thing for them. its not that they are supposedly supporting casey but more like they know they can make more money by writing books on the case!! to which I would never support by buying not even curious to read anything that isnt the truth. Too many half truths and whole lies have  been spoken by the grandparents to later reap blood money...not only writing books but they will take this to the highest level to get more money !! their hands are dripping with caylees blood!!! TAhey are dispicable grandparents and lee is a dispicable uncle!!!
why havent anyone from cindys side or georges come foward for caylee to get justice !!!


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Post by: loca on May 08, 2010, 07:53:32 PM
I'm looking forward t that as well, Wyks.
And I hope by the end of his testimony they give him a big bag of Florida oranges. and not the good ones from Indian River.

Give the man foood bank oranges


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Post by: Wyks on May 08, 2010, 07:55:40 PM

wks
nowdays it seems like the criminal has more rights than the victimized!! sadly caylee has no family members sitting on her side! while all the supporters sit on the side of the accused. Cindy and the whole bunch have done nothing to seek justice for their grandaughter. It has become a get rich by blood money thing for them. its not that they are supposedly supporting casey but more like they know they can make more money by writing books on the case!! to which I would never support by buying not even curious to read anything that isnt the truth. Too many half truths and whole lies have  been spoken by the grandparents to later reap blood money...not only writing books but they will take this to the highest level to get more money !! their hands are dripping with caylees blood!!! TAhey are dispicable grandparents and lee is a dispicable uncle!!!
why havent anyone from cindys side or georges come foward for caylee to get justice !!!

Very true loca, and well said! 

Seems that those of us who never knew Caylee in person are the only ones who truly cherish and love her.  IMO, none of the A family deserved such an angel. 


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Post by: loca on May 08, 2010, 08:23:28 PM

wks
nowdays it seems like the criminal has more rights than the victimized!! sadly caylee has no family members sitting on her side! while all the supporters sit on the side of the accused. Cindy and the whole bunch have done nothing to seek justice for their grandaughter. It has become a get rich by blood money thing for them. its not that they are supposedly supporting casey but more like they know they can make more money by writing books on the case!! to which I would never support by buying not even curious to read anything that isnt the truth. Too many half truths and whole lies have  been spoken by the grandparents to later reap blood money...not only writing books but they will take this to the highest level to get more money !! their hands are dripping with caylees blood!!! TAhey are dispicable grandparents and lee is a dispicable uncle!!!
why havent anyone from cindys side or georges come foward for caylee to get justice !!!

Very true loca, and well said! 

Seems that those of us who never knew Caylee in person are the only ones who truly cherish and love her.  IMO, none of the A family deserved such an angel. 


wyks
yes and not only does caylee have us here as supporters but many many others out there that refuse to let her get lost in the system! we will keep it fresh and alive like she should be.!  until we see justice we will stand united to seek justice for a cute innocent! child that was not  given a choice and was discarded like garbage so mommy could party and sex it up with  all kinds  of men and women by evidenced of the party pics.


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Post by: Sister on May 08, 2010, 09:05:50 PM
Thanks akmom on your take on Joseph Jordan.

Missed this last night, you are welcome. 
I believe he started out with good intentions, and then something happened along the way, at least that is my take on him.

No one has asked but here is my take on JJ.  He was a man who was desperately trying to find Caylee because he was such an attached father himself.  I actually do know him somewhat personally. He went out every day he was off from work and searched. He enlisted many others in the area to help him search and he took tons of pictures and kept prolific notes on EVERYTHING. He is very detailed in all he does and a very humble man. He was searching day in and day out in all kinds of weather when no one else was. I have a LOT of pictures he took, many of which were not relevant at all but he took them everywhere he searched.

If I understand all this from reading what is available in the interviews, this woman who is a friend of the Anthonys (and I believe working with Bozo)TRIED to say that she searched with JJ where Caylee was found. It appears that she falsified some records of Tim's (Texas Equisearch)to make it appear the JJ searched with her.  She was one of their helpers on the searches who helped sign in volunteers.

JJ denies he EVER searched with her and denies the documents she provided were his signature. He was actually at work the day/days she had him listed. When she kept calling him originally, he "had a feeling" something was not right and recorded the conversations evidently. She kept pushing him to say that he "knew" her and had searched with her which he knew was not true. The recording was a mistake because of some law, but he kept it and gave it to LE just the same.

I think the woman is in serious trouble if she tries to testify that she was there where the body was as there is no one who will back her up and she evidently thought she could maniupulate JJ into thinking he did search with her.

In MY opinion JJ is a very nice guy who did nothing wrong and a LOT right trying day after day to find Caylee. He is a very humble guy and I do think this divorce has thrown him for a loop. I do know it was not expected by him and it caught him totally off guard.

I am sorry this happened to him but as usual ANYONE who has tried to help the Anthony's have tried to destroy. I hope he comes out this with no problems as I see him like Tim and Kronk as one of the good guys who did the right thing and was attacked over it.

Turbo, thank you for the insights on JJordan.  My take when reading the interviews and listening to them was he is a good guy -- searching is not an easy task.
I may have read it wrong, but I thought the taped conversation was between his then attorney and Mort Smith.  I could be very mistaken.  In any event, Laura appears to have gotten herself in some very hot water.  Thank goodness Mr. Jordan did not destroy the tapes but turned them over to LE.  IMHO he'll be ok as I doubt the lawyer or Mr. Smith will press any charges, at least I hope not.


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Post by: Puzzler on May 08, 2010, 10:25:46 PM
I love me some Judge Perry but did anyone else feel as I do regarding the budget hearing that he pretty much gave the defense everything they ask for concerning experts..to me it sounded as if everyone was from out of state.  Now thinking is this so that the defense can't say they weren't given a fair trial??? Could that be the strategy and if so boy do I feel for other people out there that couldn't afford to receive this kind of treatment as well....not stating that everyone is guilty just the same afforded rights that MISS ANTHONY(Bozo speaking)has received.

I was thinking that way,  but if they really all have done more than 50% of the work required it would cost more to dismiss them, and  hire another new group who would then have to start from scratch.  AS long as they are willing to take  the budget prices JAC sets it probably doesn't matter. 
"Big names" like Henry Lee is what Baez goes after - I guess he isn't aware of what HLee did in the Phil Spector case-   as Bill Sheaffer said in his post hearing summary,  once your reputation has gone, it has gone....   he would have been better off hiring from Florida. To me it says that you have no confidence in your case, expecting that Celebrity Status will dazzle some Jurors... 

I do agree with the amount of work they have done, I'm no expert in anything but it seemed to me that if they (forensic anthropologist) haven't started any work as according to the statement made by prosecutors then why keep them? uggh maybe I'm just beyond thinking fair anymore with this case..What really got my goat so to speak is that the defense could keep Barrett and how important to MISS ANTHONY(Bozo speaking) is and how she could be more important then the Lead Defense attorneys...Oh please the way Baez talked it sounded as if she was MISS ANTHONY'S only friend and dear judge you just can't take her away...uugghh Perry granted it.  That's when my blood pressure rose!

Yes, I was amazed that the Mitigation specialist had already done 380 hours of work and was expecting to do almost 700 in total IIRC..  I wonder if the average inmate gets that amount of time,   I sincerely doubt that they do.    I think touring the country trying to get every minute piece of information about her is excessive.  We can see from the other family members here how she got to be as irresponsible and selfish as she is, but as much as I loathe Cindy I don't think she should be held responsible for what Casey did- and I don't think their relationship is an excuse for what Casey did, she should do what other young adults do when resentful of parental controls, get a job, get a life and move out   

That's one big thing with KC....she NEVER acted responsible...no job...all those years of lying and deceiving everyone around her...family and friends alike...my, my, my...the energy that was spent keeping all those lies going for years!  There's a real wall of entitlement there with KC and her way of thinking that everything should just be given to her and if not she would get it; however, the ONLY way she thought to get anything was through lying, cheating, stealing...criminal acts...NEVER...Oh, I need to get a job and make some money!

This is one HUGH personality flaw with KC.  That she "thought" she could live an entire life by criminal acts and not get caught.

One of her sentences sticks out most in my mind:  "I'm safe here".  Statement she said to her mother in jail (which was recorded and we saw it).  KC tells mom not to worry about her because she's safe in jail.

KC's "core basic goal" is to keep herself safe.  Not..where's Caylee (she knew), not are you and dad okay (she doesn't care) but that she's safe.

That's why KC will do just fine in jail because she's safe, and is being taken care of.

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 09, 2010, 12:33:52 AM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony's Expert Dr.Henry Lee Tampers With Evidence
05/08/10

Hello everyone.   I thought I would come out of lurkdom and ask a question.  If (Henwy) Lee is called to testify at the trial, can his tampering with evidence be brought up by the prosecution?

Absoflippinlutely.   Also, the "17 hairs" that miraculously were found by him and none of the CSI's prior to processing that car will be - its very sketchy & will be attacked not only on the grounds that Dr. Lee was caught tampering with evidence in another case but that more than likely for the right payment or exposure to yet another high profile case he would do it again....my gut tells me he was more than willing to do so.


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Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 09, 2010, 12:45:27 AM
Thanks akmom on your take on Joseph Jordan.

Missed this last night, you are welcome. 
I believe he started out with good intentions, and then something happened along the way, at least that is my take on him.

No one has asked but here is my take on JJ.  He was a man who was desperately trying to find Caylee because he was such an attached father himself.  I actually do know him somewhat personally. He went out every day he was off from work and searched. He enlisted many others in the area to help him search and he took tons of pictures and kept prolific notes on EVERYTHING. He is very detailed in all he does and a very humble man. He was searching day in and day out in all kinds of weather when no one else was. I have a LOT of pictures he took, many of which were not relevant at all but he took them everywhere he searched.

If I understand all this from reading what is available in the interviews, this woman who is a friend of the Anthonys (and I believe working with Bozo)TRIED to say that she searched with JJ where Caylee was found. It appears that she falsified some records of Tim's (Texas Equisearch)to make it appear the JJ searched with her.  She was one of their helpers on the searches who helped sign in volunteers.

JJ denies he EVER searched with her and denies the documents she provided were his signature. He was actually at work the day/days she had him listed. When she kept calling him originally, he "had a feeling" something was not right and recorded the conversations evidently. She kept pushing him to say that he "knew" her and had searched with her which he knew was not true. The recording was a mistake because of some law, but he kept it and gave it to LE just the same.

I think the woman is in serious trouble if she tries to testify that she was there where the body was as there is no one who will back her up and she evidently thought she could maniupulate JJ into thinking he did search with her.

In MY opinion JJ is a very nice guy who did nothing wrong and a LOT right trying day after day to find Caylee. He is a very humble guy and I do think this divorce has thrown him for a loop. I do know it was not expected by him and it caught him totally off guard.

I am sorry this happened to him but as usual ANYONE who has tried to help the Anthony's have tried to destroy. I hope he comes out this with no problems as I see him like Tim and Kronk as one of the good guys who did the right thing and was attacked over it.

Turbo, thank you for the insights on JJordan.  My take when reading the interviews and listening to them was he is a good guy -- searching is not an easy task.
I may have read it wrong, but I thought the taped conversation was between his then attorney and Mort Smith.  I could be very mistaken.  In any event, Laura appears to have gotten herself in some very hot water.  Thank goodness Mr. Jordan did not destroy the tapes but turned them over to LE.  IMHO he'll be ok as I doubt the lawyer or Mr. Smith will press any charges, at least I hope not.

You may be right about the taped conversations. For some reason I am thinking there is another interview somewhere where he talked about taping her.  I also "think" I read something about LE showing him pictures of her and he had never seen her before.  Where did I get that?  Who knows? I have slept since then. LOL


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Post by: akmom on May 09, 2010, 01:05:04 AM
I've been gone all day so have missed everything.  I am truly sorry if I said things about JJ that were not fair.  I was really uncomfortable about the amount of info that he was posting about searching, considering what TES requests from their volunteers, although I do not know if he was with TES the whole time.  That pretty much sums up that and to me there are so many other twists and turns that who knows what it means in the long run..

This much I know is true, I don't think there is a person that has come in contact with the Anthonys that will come out unscathed at the end of this.

I am sorry if I offended anyone over the JJ issue.


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Post by: Tevye on May 09, 2010, 04:28:32 AM
Thanks akmom on your take on Joseph Jordan.

Missed this last night, you are welcome. 
I believe he started out with good intentions, and then something happened along the way, at least that is my take on him.
From my recollections, he started out altruisticly, and then became too emotionally involved. And he did post things here that many of us felt were disloyal to TES. Soon, it became about him, and we didn't see him much anymore after that. It was like he said to himself "OMG, this is gonna come back and bite me in the butt. And the denture marks will belong to the Evil Mistress of Doom!"


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Post by: Tevye on May 09, 2010, 04:29:53 AM
Because Dr. G was unable to establish the COD, I'm not sure that the state can prove her death was "cruel". They can certainly insinuate that it was, and because of the duct tape around Caylee's mouth and skull, we can go a step further and assume that she died by suffocation at the hands of Casey Anthony. They only have to meet one standard, so I doubt it matters to them which one will apply.

As far as the A's...I don't see them supporting the notion that Casey's home life was abusive, sexually, physically, verbally or otherwise. Their quest was to show the world what an idyllic, wonderful, supportive family she was from. They are obviously lunatics, but I think that would be "over the line" even for them.

Hi Curly.....I agree re: the A's..........they will never go for taking the blame for KC being a murderer.  I think a jury is going to look at the duct tape as cruel and will not be able to get past it...the can be no reason, no excuse..the duct tape will be the key, that along with not reporting Catlee missing until FORCED to, that gets her a guilty verdict.

Hi Sunny and all---I think that even though the state can't prove COD, when the jury sees the photos and probably videos of the little skull with hair and the duct tape over the mouth and nose, that will be enough.  We haven't seen those photos, but I can't imagine seeing them and not knowing how she died.  Just hearing about it is dreadful.

I don't think the Anthonys will ever agree to saying Casey was abused in any way. They are much too arrogant to admit to any wrong-doing whatsoever.  They are accomplished liars and have grown better at it as the months pass.

Their hardness still shocks me.
I would love to see more about their life in Ohio. Specifically, Casey and Lee's medical records....


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Post by: Tevye on May 09, 2010, 04:33:33 AM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony's Expert Dr.Henry Lee Tampers With Evidence
05/08/10

Hello everyone.   I thought I would come out of lurkdom and ask a question.  If (Henwy) Lee is called to testify at the trial, can his tampering with evidence be brought up by the prosecution?
(yeah, I know it's 4 am...painful sleeping is no sleeping!) Usually, during the testimony of an expert, the attorney has the witness give a run down of their "expertness".  There has to be a way to introduce Lee's (won't call him Dr.) actions in prior cases. Maybe a few questions about who does his manicures?


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Post by: Rowanvamp0 on May 09, 2010, 04:47:07 AM
snipped

Oh please the way Baez talked it sounded as if she was MISS ANTHONY'S only friend and dear judge you just can't take her away...uugghh Perry granted it.  That's when my blood pressure rose!

What a crazy and telling thing, for it to sound like that person is her friend.  Really telling when all of your friends are not really those party buddies you had, but people paid to try to save your life....


Guess I wasn't they only one that caught that...Thanks Amom!! I knew I wasn't crazy yet..lol  Sad huh you really summed what I said right up..paid people as friends!!


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Post by: Tevye on May 09, 2010, 04:49:22 AM
Someone refresh my memory please....
Mike Brooks is on "In Session" now talking about the chloroform levels in KC's trunk. He is saying there was ALSO a rag with "supposedly" chloroform on it.

I don't remember reading about a rag found in the trunk in discovery......anyone else ?

I do not remember that.   ::MonkeyCool:: 


I DO remember that............but I thought it was a washcloth for some reason.  I have that report, I will try to find what it said specifically. I also remember the kleenex/and/or paper towels with decomp on them in the trash bag.
Speaking of trash (Anthonys aside) wonder whatever happened to the bag of trash that that somewhat loony lady took from the Ant farm? Didn't she turn it into LE? After, of course, taking pics and posting them on the net.


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Post by: Rowanvamp0 on May 09, 2010, 04:50:45 AM
I love me some Judge Perry but did anyone else feel as I do regarding the budget hearing that he pretty much gave the defense everything they ask for concerning experts..to me it sounded as if everyone was from out of state.  Now thinking is this so that the defense can't say they weren't given a fair trial??? Could that be the strategy and if so boy do I feel for other people out there that couldn't afford to receive this kind of treatment as well....not stating that everyone is guilty just the same afforded rights that MISS ANTHONY(Bozo speaking)has received.

I was thinking that way,  but if they really all have done more than 50% of the work required it would cost more to dismiss them, and  hire another new group who would then have to start from scratch.  AS long as they are willing to take  the budget prices JAC sets it probably doesn't matter. 
"Big names" like Henry Lee is what Baez goes after - I guess he isn't aware of what HLee did in the Phil Spector case-   as Bill Sheaffer said in his post hearing summary,  once your reputation has gone, it has gone....   he would have been better off hiring from Florida. To me it says that you have no confidence in your case, expecting that Celebrity Status will dazzle some Jurors... 

I do agree with the amount of work they have done, I'm no expert in anything but it seemed to me that if they (forensic anthropologist) haven't started any work as according to the statement made by prosecutors then why keep them? uggh maybe I'm just beyond thinking fair anymore with this case..What really got my goat so to speak is that the defense could keep Barrett and how important to MISS ANTHONY(Bozo speaking) is and how she could be more important then the Lead Defense attorneys...Oh please the way Baez talked it sounded as if she was MISS ANTHONY'S only friend and dear judge you just can't take her away...uugghh Perry granted it.  That's when my blood pressure rose!

Yes, I was amazed that the Mitigation specialist had already done 380 hours of work and was expecting to do almost 700 in total IIRC..  I wonder if the average inmate gets that amount of time,   I sincerely doubt that they do.    I think touring the country trying to get every minute piece of information about her is excessive.  We can see from the other family members here how she got to be as irresponsible and selfish as she is, but as much as I loathe Cindy I don't think she should be held responsible for what Casey did- and I don't think their relationship is an excuse for what Casey did, she should do what other young adults do when resentful of parental controls, get a job, get a life and move out   

Simply put...AMEN to that!!!  I'm glad to see that you too agree that there is way to many hours given that others don't receive..sicking!


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Post by: Rowanvamp0 on May 09, 2010, 04:52:55 AM
I love me some Judge Perry but did anyone else feel as I do regarding the budget hearing that he pretty much gave the defense everything they ask for concerning experts..to me it sounded as if everyone was from out of state.  Now thinking is this so that the defense can't say they weren't given a fair trial??? Could that be the strategy and if so boy do I feel for other people out there that couldn't afford to receive this kind of treatment as well....not stating that everyone is guilty just the same afforded rights that MISS ANTHONY(Bozo speaking)has received.

I was thinking that way,  but if they really all have done more than 50% of the work required it would cost more to dismiss them, and  hire another new group who would then have to start from scratch.  AS long as they are willing to take  the budget prices JAC sets it probably doesn't matter. 
"Big names" like Henry Lee is what Baez goes after - I guess he isn't aware of what HLee did in the Phil Spector case-   as Bill Sheaffer said in his post hearing summary,  once your reputation has gone, it has gone....   he would have been better off hiring from Florida. To me it says that you have no confidence in your case, expecting that Celebrity Status will dazzle some Jurors... 

I do agree with the amount of work they have done, I'm no expert in anything but it seemed to me that if they (forensic anthropologist) haven't started any work as according to the statement made by prosecutors then why keep them? uggh maybe I'm just beyond thinking fair anymore with this case..What really got my goat so to speak is that the defense could keep Barrett and how important to MISS ANTHONY(Bozo speaking) is and how she could be more important then the Lead Defense attorneys...Oh please the way Baez talked it sounded as if she was MISS ANTHONY'S only friend and dear judge you just can't take her away...uugghh Perry granted it.  That's when my blood pressure rose!

The reason the Ms. Barrett thing doesn't bother me is in addition to Casey, she's gotten the A's (according to Bozo) to trust and open up to her. This is some feat! I look forward to what she'll have to say.
Good Point out there I do hope that this helps in some strange way, for Caylee's sake!


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 09, 2010, 09:12:12 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
05/10/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Motions
05/11/2010           Hearing  (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
Pending Motions on Death Penalty
06/21/2010           Status Hearing  (1:30 PM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
07/20/2010           Status Hearing  (1:30 PM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
08/30/2010           Status Hearing  (1:30 PM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
09/27/2010           Status Hearing  (1:30 PM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
10/29/2010           Status Hearing  (1:30 PM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 09, 2010, 09:29:22 AM
Ok I'm starting to get the picture.  Bozo had to go all over the US to find "experts" who didn't think his client was GUILTY!  All the experts in Florida said "I'LL PASS" ...
Yes, and they are connected to Linda and Michael Baden. They know a lot of experts.

Yes--they saw the "gravy train" quickly.

Isn't Gravy Train dog food?

 ::MonkeyTongue::




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 09, 2010, 09:45:40 AM
Thanks akmom on your take on Joseph Jordan.

Missed this last night, you are welcome. 
I believe he started out with good intentions, and then something happened along the way, at least that is my take on him.

No one has asked but here is my take on JJ.  He was a man who was desperately trying to find Caylee because he was such an attached father himself.  I actually do know him somewhat personally. He went out every day he was off from work and searched. He enlisted many others in the area to help him search and he took tons of pictures and kept prolific notes on EVERYTHING. He is very detailed in all he does and a very humble man. He was searching day in and day out in all kinds of weather when no one else was. I have a LOT of pictures he took, many of which were not relevant at all but he took them everywhere he searched.

If I understand all this from reading what is available in the interviews, this woman who is a friend of the Anthonys (and I believe working with Bozo)TRIED to say that she searched with JJ where Caylee was found. It appears that she falsified some records of Tim's (Texas Equisearch)to make it appear the JJ searched with her.  She was one of their helpers on the searches who helped sign in volunteers.

JJ denies he EVER searched with her and denies the documents she provided were his signature. He was actually at work the day/days she had him listed. When she kept calling him originally, he "had a feeling" something was not right and recorded the conversations evidently. She kept pushing him to say that he "knew" her and had searched with her which he knew was not true. The recording was a mistake because of some law, but he kept it and gave it to LE just the same.

I think the woman is in serious trouble if she tries to testify that she was there where the body was as there is no one who will back her up and she evidently thought she could maniupulate JJ into thinking he did search with her.

In MY opinion JJ is a very nice guy who did nothing wrong and a LOT right trying day after day to find Caylee. He is a very humble guy and I do think this divorce has thrown him for a loop. I do know it was not expected by him and it caught him totally off guard.

I am sorry this happened to him but as usual ANYONE who has tried to help the Anthony's have tried to destroy. I hope he comes out this with no problems as I see him like Tim and Kronk as one of the good guys who did the right thing and was attacked over it.

Thanks so much for the info--from reading the transcript, he came across to me as being honest, and reminded me of one of my friends---a person so naturally detail-oriented, she sometimes trips over this inborn personality trait! 


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Post by: Ono on May 09, 2010, 09:53:41 AM
I've been gone all day so have missed everything.  I am truly sorry if I said things about JJ that were not fair.  I was really uncomfortable about the amount of info that he was posting about searching, considering what TES requests from their volunteers, although I do not know if he was with TES the whole time.  That pretty much sums up that and to me there are so many other twists and turns that who knows what it means in the long run..

This much I know is true, I don't think there is a person that has come in contact with the Anthonys that will come out unscathed at the end of this.

I am sorry if I offended anyone over the JJ issue.

You didn't offend anyone.     ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 09, 2010, 09:58:20 AM
~ Happy Mother's Day to all fellow moms! ~     ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 09, 2010, 10:30:22 AM
I am shocked that Jar has said at least 3 times now that KC does not want to be ion court and has no interest in being there and gives the whole speech about it is her rights and she is giving up those rights by being ordered to be in court. 

I say, since she does not care to make sure she has adequate defense, just save the taxpayers a lot of money and declare her guilty and we can all go home.  On to sentencing!  Does she care about that?  Maybe Nurse Cindy will want to give the injection.  Does she care about that?  She didn't care about her daughter's life and if you didn't believe it in the beginning, you almost have to believe it now.

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

I am just getting caught up in this thread.  Boo Monkey, I had to put a pillow over my face to keep from waking the house up about Baez getting spanked.  NR an others, you have kept me in stitches this morning over your play-by-play reactions.  Thanks to those who let us know what was going on.

Caylee's death and the ensuing trial is no joking matter, I know, but we sure did need some relief, in some form, from the hijacking the defense was doing, of the justice system.

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 09, 2010, 10:49:30 AM
I've been gone all day so have missed everything.  I am truly sorry if I said things about JJ that were not fair.  I was really uncomfortable about the amount of info that he was posting about searching, considering what TES requests from their volunteers, although I do not know if he was with TES the whole time.  That pretty much sums up that and to me there are so many other twists and turns that who knows what it means in the long run..

This much I know is true, I don't think there is a person that has come in contact with the Anthonys that will come out unscathed at the end of this.

I am sorry if I offended anyone over the JJ issue.

You didn't offend anyone.     ::MonkeyAngel::
You didn't offend me either, and I totally agree with you, he didn't need to have been putting so much info out about the searches.


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Post by: klaasend on May 09, 2010, 11:13:07 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/05/09/florida.casey.anthony.court/index.html?eref=igoogle_cnn

Key hearings this week in Casey Anthony's murder trial
By Jean Casarez, In Session


Editor's note: Follow this story on truTV's In Session from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. ET, on CNN.com LIVE and on HLN's Nancy Grace at 8 p.m. and 10 p.m.

(CNN) -- Casey Anthony is back in court this week for crucial hearings that could determine whether she will face the death penalty, where her murder trial will be held next year and what evidence the jury will hear.

Anthony, 24, is accused of killing her daughter, Caylee, who was 2 when she disappeared in June 2008. Caylee's body was found that December in a vacant lot near the Orlando, Florida, home where she lived with her grandparents.

At this week's hearings, Anthony's defense attorneys will try to convince the judge to take the death penalty off the table. The defense team also is trying to keep some evidence it considers "gossip" away from the jury. And, the defense has asked to move the case to an area of Florida where there has been less publicity.

Rulings made on a tall stack of pretrial motions will likely have a significant impact on the trial, which is scheduled to begin on May 9, 2011. They will be decided by a judge who is a newcomer to the case.

Chief Justice Belvin Perry Jr. replaced Circuit Judge Stan Strickland last month when Strickland took himself off the case after the defense claimed he had improper communications with blogger "Marinade Dave."

"Miss Anthony cannot get a fair trial by an impartial jury in Orlando because of extensive, inflammatory, and prejudicial pretrial publicity in this case," the defense argues in court papers seeking a change of venue.

Other trial locations suggested by the defense include Miami's Dade County, Palm Beach County or Broward County. But during his first hearing in the case, Perry said the defense doesn't get to select the trial location.

Under Florida's open records law, prosecutors have released tens of thousands of pages of witness statements, forensic reports and computer and cell phone records gathered by police. Evidence includes dozens of photos of Anthony and her friends partying, text messages, 911 calls, witness statements to police and Anthony's letters and notes to fellow inmates at the Orange County Jail.

Aside from the regular release of documents, prosecutors have not tipped their hand. They do not comment to the media and they have not filed responses to any of the defense motions. But the hearings are expected to shed some light on how the prosecution's case is being built.

Meanwhile, the defense team led by Orlando attorney Jose Baez is fighting hard to keep the "party photos" out of the case, saying they are prejudicial and prove little.

The photos show Anthony at a nightclub and a residence in the Orlando area, dancing and drinking with friends. Automated dates on the images show only two were taken after the date Caylee disappeared.

Investigators retrieved the photos during a search of Anthony's computer. "The media has used multiple photos of Miss Anthony in order to vilify her and portray her as a 'party girl' whose lifestyle somehow indicates responsibility for her daughter's death," the defense says in its court papers.

In a related motion, the defense asks to exclude from the trial "hearsay evidence, gossip and innuendo." The defense specifically mentions television interviews potential witnesses have given since Anthony was arrested, as well as their sworn statements to law enforcement.

Both, they say, include gossip about Anthony that if allowed would prejudice the jury and violate her right to a fair trial.

The defense also is seeking to keep out of trial the 911 call Anthony's mother, Cindy Anthony, made on July 15, 2008, reporting Caylee missing, calling it "hearsay."

During the call Cindy Anthony screams that her daughter's car smells like a corpse.

Prosecutors usually argue under such circumstances that the law allows the jury to hear an "excited utterance." It is an exception to the hearsay rule, and it is allowed as evidence at trials because the statement can be considered spontaneous and therefore trustworthy.

Cindy Anthony was referring to the family's car. Evidence released so far indicates prosecutors are likely to argue that it was last driven by Casey Anthony and abandoned two weeks after Caylee was last seen alive.

Several legal motions challenging the death penalty allege that prosecutors are acting in bad faith.

One contends that prosecutors are seeking death against Anthony because she is a woman. The defense argues that focusing on Anthony's lifestyle before she was arrested is gender bias. The defense maintains that Anthony is facing more serious charges and harsher punishment than a man in the same position would receive.

"Women who are accused of violent crimes are tried not only for the facts of the crime, but also for their non-conformity with traditional gender expectations," the defense argues in its court papers.

The defense also alleges that prosecutors had sought the death penalty to bankrupt the defense and prevent Anthony from having the attorney of her choice.

The defense maintains that prosecutors had originally said they would not seek death in this case but reversed that position in March 2009 when they learned that Anthony had $205,000 for her defense.

The bulk of the money came from ABC News for the licensing of photos and videos, Baez testified during a previous hearing.

"The court has the authority to bar the death penalty where the prosecution exercises its discretion in bad faith, for impermissible motives and in order to prevent the defendant from exercising her constitutional rights," the defense argued in court papers.

The two-day hearing begins Monday. The first arguments will focus on non-death penalty issues. Tuesday's hearing will put the death penalty front and center.


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Post by: Babybear on May 09, 2010, 11:14:10 AM
Ok I'm starting to get the picture.  Bozo had to go all over the US to find "experts" who didn't think his client was GUILTY!  All the experts in Florida said "I'LL PASS" ...
Yes, and they are connected to Linda and Michael Baden. They know a lot of experts.

Yes--they saw the "gravy train" quickly.

Isn't Gravy Train dog food?

 ::MonkeyTongue::




Good morning Monkeys---Yes, Bearly, Gravy train is dog food but have you taken a real close look at Andrea Lyons and Linda Baden?  Woof Woof


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on May 09, 2010, 11:19:31 AM
Ok I'm starting to get the picture.  Bozo had to go all over the US to find "experts" who didn't think his client was GUILTY!  All the experts in Florida said "I'LL PASS" ...
Yes, and they are connected to Linda and Michael Baden. They know a lot of experts.

Yes--they saw the "gravy train" quickly.

Isn't Gravy Train dog food?

 ::MonkeyTongue::




Good morning Monkeys---Yes, Bearly, Gravy train is dog food but have you taken a real close look at Andrea Lyons and Linda Baden?  Woof Woof

Gravy Train or "Crazy Train"?   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 09, 2010, 11:24:14 AM
I'm picking both, Crazy Train and Gravy Train  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: akmom on May 09, 2010, 11:57:55 AM
I've been gone all day so have missed everything.  I am truly sorry if I said things about JJ that were not fair.  I was really uncomfortable about the amount of info that he was posting about searching, considering what TES requests from their volunteers, although I do not know if he was with TES the whole time.  That pretty much sums up that and to me there are so many other twists and turns that who knows what it means in the long run..

This much I know is true, I don't think there is a person that has come in contact with the Anthonys that will come out unscathed at the end of this.

I am sorry if I offended anyone over the JJ issue.

You didn't offend anyone.     ::MonkeyAngel::
You didn't offend me either, and I totally agree with you, he didn't need to have been putting so much info out about the searches.

Thanks Ono and no rose. 


Happy Mother's Day Monkeys!!!   Hmmmmm, looks like we are fixin' to have a couple of busy days in front of us!!!


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 09, 2010, 12:00:58 PM
Happy Mother's Day to you akmom and to all the mothers, hope everyone's day is special  ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: Curly on May 09, 2010, 12:57:27 PM
Happy Mother's Day everyone.

Wow, I wonder how long Monday's hearing is going to be if it's on Tru TV from 9-3pm. (we don't get that here)
I'll have to catch it online after work, but thanks to everyone's commentary I feel like I'm watching with you guys.
It should be interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 09, 2010, 01:24:23 PM
Happy Mother's Day everyone.

Wow, I wonder how long Monday's hearing is going to be if it's on Tru TV from 9-3pm. (we don't get that here)
I'll have to catch it online after work, but thanks to everyone's commentary I feel like I'm watching with you guys.
It should be interesting.
Happy Mother's Day  ::MonkeyAngel::  I get Tru TV, but since I live on the West Coast it doesn't start until 9 our time, but it will have already have happened. I'm thankful for My Fox Orlando, I can't seem to get the other stations to play for me on this computer. It is nice for the commentary, I appreciate it also.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on May 09, 2010, 02:09:08 PM
No Rose:

     Did you ever download Adobe Flash? There's no reason you shouldn't pick up other station's videos. Why don't you call whoever makes the computer? That would drive me nuts. Is it windows based or apple? With apple, I also use Dix video convertor. Don't know if that helps, but I'd call if I were you. You've got nothing to lose, except your patience if u call customer service.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 09, 2010, 04:56:06 PM
CNN posted today http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/05/09/florida.casey.anthony.court/?hpt=T2

snips:
(CNN) -- Casey Anthony is back in court this week for crucial hearings that could determine whether she will face the death penalty, where her murder trial will be held next year and what evidence the jury will hear.
At this week's hearings, Anthony's defense attorneys will try to convince the judge to take the death penalty off the table. The defense team also is trying to keep some evidence it considers "gossip" away from the jury. And, the defense has asked to move the case to an area of Florida where there has been less publicity.
-- The article is nothing of " BOMBSHELL" cough.. I am so over that word.

The comments though written of this article are worth the read ....being that CNN is a international site and not a Florida Newspaper. That the comments are coming in from all over the USA ..etc.





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 09, 2010, 06:41:03 PM
I'm picking both, Crazy Train and Gravy Train  ::MonkeyJnBox::


 ::MonkeyJnBox::     I'm sayin'  "No comment" ...   lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Deenie on May 09, 2010, 07:52:02 PM
I'm picking both, Crazy Train and Gravy Train  ::MonkeyJnBox::


 ::MonkeyJnBox::     I'm sayin'  "No comment" ...   lol
I could so offer up some Music here - But I wont. Lol Ono.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 09, 2010, 08:01:01 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/05/09/mothers-day-and-our-union/
Mother’s Day and Our Union
Posted on May 9th, 2010 by Valhall


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: BooMonkey on May 09, 2010, 08:37:41 PM
A little OT, Happy Mother's day to all monkeys. Whether we gave birth or not we all feel a Mother's love for these little lambs.

A very Happy Birthday too to Mioyshi! How's it feel to be 29 again??!!    ::dogwag::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 09, 2010, 09:04:49 PM
No Rose:

     Did you ever download Adobe Flash? There's no reason you shouldn't pick up other station's videos. Why don't you call whoever makes the computer? That would drive me nuts. Is it windows based or apple? With apple, I also use Dix video convertor. Don't know if that helps, but I'd call if I were you. You've got nothing to lose, except your patience if u call customer service.
My daughter did, and it worked, but now it doesn't, and I'm dumb as dirt when it comes to computers. Windows and we use firefox, that is all I know.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on May 09, 2010, 10:46:01 PM
No Rose:

     Did you ever download Adobe Flash? There's no reason you shouldn't pick up other station's videos. Why don't you call whoever makes the computer? That would drive me nuts. Is it windows based or apple? With apple, I also use Dix video convertor. Don't know if that helps, but I'd call if I were you. You've got nothing to lose, except your patience if u call customer service.
My daughter did, and it worked, but now it doesn't, and I'm dumb as dirt when it comes to computers. Windows and we use firefox, that is all I know.

Just go to adobe.com and download it again!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Curly on May 09, 2010, 10:53:17 PM
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:7

Try this No Rose.
There seems to be a problem with Firefox 3 and adobe flash.
You might have to download it for internet explorer and watch web videos from IE.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Cappuccino on May 10, 2010, 02:02:09 AM
On route back home and just wanted to stop in to say Happy Mother's Day!   I'll be looking forward to watching the hearing later.

Justice for Caylee  ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 10, 2010, 05:02:14 AM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/05/casey-anthonys-change-of-venue.html
WDBO Local News      
Casey Anthony's change of venue to be heard in court
By
Bob Hazen
@ May 10, 2010 3:46 AM Permalink | Comments (0)

Accused child killer Casey Anthony will be in Orange County court Monday morning for a hearing on several motions, including changing the venue of her murder trial.
Chief Judge Belvin Perry is considering moving the trial to improve the chances of finding an impartial jury. But at a hearing late last month, Perry raised the idea of selecting a jury in a different county and bringing it to Orlando for the trial.

The court is worried that a lengthy trial in another county would cost too much, especially considering the number of experts and witnesses both sides are expected to call to testify.

Prosecutors and defense attorneys told Perry they expect the trial to last up to two months, followed by what could be a long penalty phase as well.

Anthony is accused of murdering her daughter Caylee in 2008. She told investigators Caylee was kidnapped by a babysitter.

The trial is currently set to begin May 9, 2011.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 10, 2010, 05:10:24 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/5/9/casey_anthony_murder_trial_one_year_away.html
 Casey Anthony Murder Trial One Year Away
Sunday, May 09, 2010 8:35:01 PM
ORLANDO -- A single satellite truck sits outside the Orange County Courthouse.
   
But it will be a different scene May 9, a year from now, when Casey Anthony stands trial for first-degree murder in the death of 2-year-old Caylee.

"We're going to see a type of trial that Orange County has definitely never seen, and Florida has never seen. It’s going to be something to see along the lines of OJ Simpson, Michael Jackson," said Richard Hornsby, legal analyst.

This week, newly appointed Judge Belvin Perry will hear outstanding motions including death penalty objections.
   
Hornsby said those are mostly formalities filed in case laws ever change.
   
Motions that could have a bigger impact include whether photos of Casey before Caylee's death or Roy Cronk’s past can be used as evidence.

"It's going to be a critical issue in the case because that seems to be the defense’s entire argument that another person may have placed the body there while Casey Anthony was in jail," Hornsby said.
Then there's the motion for a change of venue.

Judge Perry has already hinted he thinks the cheapest and easiest way to have a trial is to keep it in Orange County and bring in a jury from another part of the state if needed.
   
If that happens, by law, they'd have to be sequestered.

"Once you start telling people that you are going to have to live in a hotel for three months, people who might want to be on your trial and be more defense-friendly will say ‘I can't put my life on hold.’"
   
Once a jury is seated, they'll hear from as many as 250 witnesses and lawyers, who by that point will have been building their case for nearly three years.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 10, 2010, 05:13:14 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/5/10/where_will_caseys_trial_be_held.html
 Where Will Casey’s Trial Be Held?
Monday, May 10, 2010 4:36:23 AM

Reported by Mark Jenkins

ORLANDO -- Questions about the death penalty could be answered this week in the Case against Casey Anthony.

However, the court will decide today if her murder trial will be held in Orange County.

Defense Attorney Jose Baez wants to send the case to South Florida – in either Miami-Dade or Broward counties.

He said there's been far too much publicity surrounding the case and that it'd be hard to find a jury that hasn't already heard about Anthony, much less developed their own opinion about her.

That would mean moving some 200 witnesses, a judge and court personnel and dozens of investigators for possibly a month.

Legal experts said that could cost tens of thousands of dollars.

Chief Judge Belvin Perry has already said it'd be cheaper to hold it here and bring in potential jurors from outside the county.
They would then be sequestered, which legal analyst Richard Hornsby said would hurt the defense.

"Once you start telling people that you are going to have to live in a hotel for three months, people who might want to be on your trial and be more defense friendly will say ‘I can't put my life on hold,'" Hornsby said.

Defense attorneys believe the story has gotten considerably less air time in South Florida.

Perry will also look at other motions this week, like defense objections to the death penalty, which Anthony faces after being charged with killing her daughter.

Her trial is still set for May 9, 2011.


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Post by: crazybabyborg on May 10, 2010, 05:22:33 AM
Hi Trimm! Did you get up early to wake up Popcorn kitty??   ::MonkeyWink::


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Post by: carpe noctem on May 10, 2010, 05:49:14 AM
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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 10, 2010, 05:53:36 AM
Hi Trimm! Did you get up early to wake up Popcorn kitty??   ::MonkeyWink::

Hey CBB!   ::MonkeyCheer4:: We monkeys have to have our goodies.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
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Post by: crazybabyborg on May 10, 2010, 06:18:13 AM
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Dude.

 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyCheer4::

OMG, Carpe! ROFL!!!! You've done it! You've captured the REAL Casey!!!


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Post by: crazybabyborg on May 10, 2010, 06:20:22 AM
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Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 10, 2010, 06:46:21 AM
Hi Trimm! Did you get up early to wake up Popcorn kitty??   ::MonkeyWink::

Hey CBB!   ::MonkeyCheer4:: We monkeys have to have our goodies.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
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Good Morning trimm and CBB! ::MonkeyBike::


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 10, 2010, 06:58:37 AM
Hey Seeme.    ::HelloKitty::

http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/05/casey-anthony-will-jurors-see.html
WDBO Local News      
Casey Anthony: Will jurors see "party pics?"
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ May 10, 2010 5:00 AM Permalink | Comments (0)
The rapid pace in the Casey Anthony case continues Monday morning under new judge Belvin Perry Jr.
Perry will hear seven defense motions including one to keep the infamous "party pictures" from being seen by the jury.

The racy photos show Casey and her friends engaged in drunken debauchery.  Some show Casey partying in an Orlando night club during the time that her daughter was missing.

Defense attorneys say viewing the pictures would cause jurors to form a prejudice. 

"It has an incredible, powerful influence on the jurors," said San Diego defense attorney Allen Bloom.

He represented Cynthia Sommer, who was convicted of poisoning her husband with arsenic.  Prosecutors told the jury she partied, slept around and used life insurance money to get breast implants.

"I can tell you right now, the district attorney in San Diego wishes they hadn't," Bloom said.

A judge overturned the ruling, saying the evidence about her lifestyle unduly influenced the jury.  Bloom says prosecutors in the Casey Anthony case should be careful not to make the same mistake.

"Go with the evidence that they have which is evidence, not character assignation," he said.
Pictures that were taken before Caylee went missing are "completely irrelevant," Bloom said.  The rest are subject to the judge's interpretation.

Also Monday, the judge will hear a defense motion seeking a change of venue.  Perry previously said he would consider plucking jurors from another location and bringing them to Orlando for the trial.  He said moving the trial itself would be to expensive. 


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Post by: crazybabyborg on May 10, 2010, 07:10:43 AM
Hi seeme!! Thanks for the articles, Trimm! I got to work at 6:00 so I could get some stuff cleared away in hopes of being able to follow the hearing! You're helping me catch up!   ::MonkeyWink::


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Post by: Nut44x4 on May 10, 2010, 07:21:19 AM
 ::MonkeyDance:: CBB!! hi lol


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 10, 2010, 07:33:39 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-hearing-motions-20100510,0,6943252.story
Casey Anthony case: Slew of defense motions set to be argued today
The legal requests range from sealing jail logs to keeping her friends' opinions of her out of the trial.

 By Sarah Lundy, Orlando Sentinel

7:04 a.m. EDT, May 10, 2010
Casey Anthony will appear in court today as her attorneys and prosecutors hash out a string of legal motions — some of which have been lingering in the court file for months.

Orange-Osceola Chief Judge Belvin Perry cleared his calendar for today and Tuesday to hear arguments on various topics, such as from where the jury will be selected to whether the death penalty is unconstitutional.

This is part of the judge's effort to keep the case on track for trial in May 2011.

Casey Anthony, 24, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Marie.

It hasn't been the typical murder case. It started out as a missing-child case after the toddler was reported missing in July 2008.

In October — with no body found — a grand jury indicted Casey Anthony on first-degree murder. At that point, the state elected not to seek the death penalty.

Two months later in December, Caylee's skeletal remains were found less than a mile from her family home in east Orange County. A medical examiner ruled her death a homicide but could not say how the child died.

By April, prosecutors changed their minds, announcing they were going to seek the death penalty against Casey Anthony.

Experts say death cases are different. It involves more of everything —more trial preparation, more expenses and more motions filed.

Today, Perry has seven motions on various topics set to be argued. Tuesday's hearing will focus on death-penalty motions.

Here's today's line-up:
• Change of Venue

Casey Anthony's attorneys do not think their client can receive a fair trial in Central Florida. Her case has attracted intense media coverage since her initial arrest in July 2008.

"The Orlando community's involvement in this case and its hostility towards Miss Anthony create an environment in which it would be difficult for a juror to render a verdict based solely on the evidence presented at trial," her defense attorney, Jose Baez, wrote in a motion filed in September.

Perry has told the attorneys if he grants the change of venue that he and the lawyers will travel to another Florida county to pick a 12-member jury plus alternates. The jury will leave their families and come to Orange County where the trial, which is expected to last four to seven weeks, will be held.

•Jail logs

Casey Anthony's attorneys want the judge to keep the list of names of people who visit her in jail private. Visitation logs are public record unless sealed by a judge.

Her legal team claims the media is "constantly aware of any visits that the defendant has." The identity of certain defense experts who see her in jail can spawn "unfounded speculation." That hampers the defense's preparation for trial.

•Party Pictures
After Casey Anthony's arrest, dozens of pictures taken from various online social-networking sites have emerged and portray her as a "party girl." The photos show the young mother partying with friends in local nightclubs, bars and wild house parties. Most of the pictures were taken before Caylee disappeared.

Her defense fears if the prosecutors presents these photos to a jury it "would serve no purpose other than to further inflame the jury against Miss Anthony." Her attorneys call these photos irrelevant to the case and want prosecutors — if they have plans to use them — to show why they are material.

•Gossip and Innuendo

Her legal team want to keep out dozens of statements about Anthony and her family made by friends and family — statements the defense contends are hearsay. Her attorneys also don't want prosecutors questioning Anthony's friends and acquaintances on the stand about her truthfulness and motives.

•Other people's opinions

As part of the case, investigators have questioned dozens of people who know Casey Anthony. These friends and acquaintances offered their opinions of Casey Anthony's character, motives and undisclosed intentions and character of truthfulness. These opinions should not be admissible in court, her attorneys argue.

•Toss indictment

Her attorneys argue in a motion that Casey Anthony was indicted on several charges, including premeditated murder and criminal neglect of her daughter. But they say there is so little information on the indictment that the legal team can't possibly defend her.
The failure to allege any facts in the indictment violates state's criminal procedures, which "explicitly prescribes that a charging instrument set out the 'essential facts constituting the offense charged,'" the motion says.

•More information

Casey Anthony's legal team has continued to ask for various records, including documents from various forensic labs, communications between law enforcement officials and those labs.

It's unclear what information they are seeking in this legal request.


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Post by: monkalicious on May 10, 2010, 07:44:18 AM
Good morning, Monkeys!  I would like to wish all the mothers (and those who have had them,)
a belated Happy Mother's Day.   Looks like a big day in court.  I hope Judge P. deals with Baez and Co. swiftly.  I wonder if Baez is over his snit yet? 
 ::MonkeyJnBox::


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 10, 2010, 07:47:58 AM
http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/23503688/detail.html
Hearing Slated In Casey Anthony Case
Jail Visitor Logs, Party Pictures, Change Of Venue Amid Motions To Be Heard

POSTED: 6:04 am EDT May 10, 2010
UPDATED: 6:37 am EDT May 10, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
It is another big day Monday in the case against Casey Anthony as the new judge continues to waste no time.

Judge Belvin Perry will hear a total of seven motions filed by the defense in a hearing scheduled for 9 a.m. at the Orange County courthouse.

The defense wants to seal jail visitor logs, eliminate evidence they are calling irrelevant -- evidence like pictures of Anthony partying when her daughter Caylee was missing. The issue of change of venue will also be heard.

Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, has said he doesn't feel his client could get a fair trial in Orlando because of the media attention the case has drawn.
"One of the things that the court must take into consideration is you cannot force a change of venue on someone," Perry said.

Judge Perry said he would would need to find out if the chief judge in a potential new district has the the capability of handling such a high profile case.

Anthony is being held on no bond at the Orange County jail charged with murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

Caylee's remains were found in a wooded area near the Anthony family home in December 2008.

Anthony maintains a nanny by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee, then 2 years old.
Video  http://www.wesh.com/video/23503792/index.html
Special Section  http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/index.html
Images  http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/19590190/detail.html?qs=1;s=1;p=news&dm=ss&tn=b
Look Back,Caylee Disappearance  http://www.wesh.com/news/22987477/detail.html
Search For Caylee  http://www.wesh.com/news/23066486/detail.html


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Post by: crazybabyborg on May 10, 2010, 08:06:22 AM
::MonkeyDance:: CBB!! hi lol

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

I see your "alarm" got you up and going this morning, Nut! Glad you like it!!   ::MonkeyDance:: Are you ready for this hearing?  ::MonkeyDance::

The wheels sure turn slowly, but a cog is coming around!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 10, 2010, 08:32:01 AM
watch hearing here:
http://www.wftv.com/news/23503932/detail.html
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live


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Post by: trimmonthelake on May 10, 2010, 08:34:49 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23503687/detail.html
Casey Defense Wants Party Pics Blocked
Casey Anthony Attorneys Hope Jury Of Peers Won't Be From Orange County

POSTED: Monday, May 10, 2010
UPDATED: 7:21 am EDT May 10, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony and her lawyers will be back in court Monday, for a hearing that could help decide who will and won't be on the jury.
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Post by: Brandi on May 10, 2010, 08:53:27 AM
http://www.wftv.com/video/23472159/index.html is working now.

Good morning.


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Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 10, 2010, 08:55:04 AM
watch hearing here:
http://www.wftv.com/news/23503932/detail.html
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-casey-anthony-hearing-video,0,3860178.htmlstory

Baez is totally ignoring Casey...... ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 10, 2010, 08:55:44 AM
I'm picking both, Crazy Train and Gravy Train  ::MonkeyJnBox::


 ::MonkeyJnBox::     I'm sayin'  "No comment" ...   lol
I could so offer up some Music here - But I wont. Lol Ono.

LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 10, 2010, 08:56:13 AM
KC wearing a long sleeved version of her ruffled shirt from last hearing.


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Post by: Searching on May 10, 2010, 08:56:25 AM
Is that a twinge of fear I see in KC's face?


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Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 10, 2010, 08:58:41 AM
Is that a twinge of fear I see in KC's face?

She looks lost......boo freakin' ::MonkeyDevil:: hoo!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 10, 2010, 08:59:42 AM
watch hearing here:
http://www.wftv.com/news/23503932/detail.html
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-casey-anthony-hearing-video,0,3860178.htmlstory

Baez is totally ignoring Casey...... ::MonkeyHaHa::

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 -
Post by: Ono on May 10, 2010, 09:02:53 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/05/09/mothers-day-and-our-union/
Mother’s Day and Our Union
Posted on May 9th, 2010 by Valhall

Val wrote a five-star post!   " ... lack of natural affection"  hits the bullseye.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: crazybabyborg on May 10, 2010, 09:04:18 AM
State's not objecting to change of venue but not agreeing to Dade County..........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: crazybabyborg on May 10, 2010, 09:05:34 AM
This case isn't different........... unfortunately, Mothers murder their children far too commonly!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Ono on May 10, 2010, 09:09:38 AM
Who is he kidding? Baez & Co. are the ones who have exploited her case in the media.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: darla on May 10, 2010, 09:11:45 AM
Morning Monkeys!

Did that fool just say he has recently tried 2 murder cases and one all knew who he was and only one in South Fla. knew him? Give me a break her bozo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Searching on May 10, 2010, 09:12:03 AM
He has nerve talking about Attorney's injecting themselves in cases... what a crock.. he has not met a camera he did not like, well, unless he is running from Kathi B.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: flamom on May 10, 2010, 09:12:26 AM
Good morning Monkey friends..
I am watching.... BoBo is such a doosh....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: crazybabyborg on May 10, 2010, 09:12:49 AM
Betcha Baez won't mention that South Florida/Miami/Dade County has the highest crime rate in the State and he hopes may not see this case as so heinous and a high Latino population which he hopes to exploit.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Ono on May 10, 2010, 09:13:07 AM
Yeah ... we feel ya Baez;  To Kill A Mockingbird---oh brother.  This must have been written by A.L.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 10, 2010, 09:13:52 AM
Bet to the point Baez.....   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: akmom on May 10, 2010, 09:13:57 AM
Morning.....get to the point Mr Baez  LOLOLOLOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: flamom on May 10, 2010, 09:14:01 AM
Go Judge!!!  LOL.. Make him get to the point


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Ono on May 10, 2010, 09:14:14 AM
Love His Honor !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   " Mr. Baez, Get to the point ... "   lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Scatty on May 10, 2010, 09:14:30 AM
Baez GMAFB!! He says Caylee and Haleigh are both missing children? And he wants Miami-Dade.  HAHAHAHA! JP just interrupted his "impassioned" self-serving speech and told him to get to the point.  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Brandi on May 10, 2010, 09:14:32 AM
Who is he kidding? Baez & Co. are the ones who have exploited her case in the media.

Who's he kidding again, when he tried to compare Caylee's situation to Haleigh's.

Caylee's case is not a missing person case. It is a murder case.

Caylee was not a missing person.

Grrrrr.

So good to have Perry tell him to get to the point!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: flamom on May 10, 2010, 09:14:44 AM
LOL Monkey minds tend to think alike


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 10, 2010, 09:15:07 AM
Yeah ... we feel ya Baez;  To Kill A Mockingbird---oh brother.  This must have been written by A.L.

Lyon without an S.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Searching on May 10, 2010, 09:15:19 AM
LOL.. Baez... not to interrupt you, but could you get to the point... translation... Baez STFU with the speech and lets get movin.I'm falling asleep here...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Ono on May 10, 2010, 09:16:01 AM
LOL--we all know why he wants Dade County.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: crazybabyborg on May 10, 2010, 09:16:04 AM
Duvall County is Jacksonville.......... right?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Brandi on May 10, 2010, 09:16:40 AM
LOL Monkey minds tend to think alike

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(Hi flamom!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Ono on May 10, 2010, 09:16:43 AM
Yeah ... we feel ya Baez;  To Kill A Mockingbird---oh brother.  This must have been written by A.L.

Lyon without an S.   ::MonkeyTongue::

Most definitely --- LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Searching on May 10, 2010, 09:17:57 AM
Duvall County is Jacksonville.......... right?


Jacksonville is the largest city in the U.S. state of Florida, and is the county seat of Duval County.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Ono on May 10, 2010, 09:18:30 AM
He is the one who stirred the media frenzy!!!!  What nerve.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 10, 2010, 09:18:40 AM
Oh my  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Brandi on May 10, 2010, 09:19:26 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image156-1.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 10, 2010, 09:19:46 AM
I can't believe Baez just said this isn't about "a child", but about $$$$$$ ::MonkeyMad::

I don't care in what context he said it.....this is about CAYLEE!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: darla on May 10, 2010, 09:20:18 AM
Oh my God he needs to sit down and shut up.He is the one in front of the media every chance he gets!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 10, 2010, 09:20:36 AM
I can't believe Baez just said this isn't about "a child", but about $$$$$$ ::MonkeyMad::

I don't care in what context he said it.....this is about CAYLEE!
::MonkeyEek:: Listening to the tapes they are playing


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: flamom on May 10, 2010, 09:20:43 AM
Hi Brandi .. I read here every day, just most of the time am limited in chat time.. I miss you all..
I am hoping the trial is moved to West Palm area so I can go


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Ono on May 10, 2010, 09:20:45 AM
The fact the Anthonys didn't call the police to their home always made me wonder about those over-the-top demonstrators.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Scatty on May 10, 2010, 09:21:01 AM
How about a video of Cindy and her hammer?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: crazybabyborg on May 10, 2010, 09:21:20 AM
Duvall County is Jacksonville.......... right?


Jacksonville is the largest city in the U.S. state of Florida, and is the county seat of Duval County.

A whole lot of the reactions Baez has prepared is because of Cindy, IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 10, 2010, 09:21:21 AM
How about a video of Cindy and her hammer?
Yes


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 10, 2010, 09:21:35 AM
Well....if Dade County didn't know about it before, they sure do now. This is being aired on Court TV live....   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Searching on May 10, 2010, 09:21:42 AM
I can't believe Baez just said this isn't about "a child", but about $$$$$$ ::MonkeyMad::

I don't care in what context he said it.....this is about CAYLEE!

He would know better then anyone how much money can and has been made off this case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Brandi on May 10, 2010, 09:22:02 AM
I can't believe Baez just said this isn't about "a child", but about $$$$$$ ::MonkeyMad::

I don't care in what context he said it.....this is about CAYLEE!

...and he could not bring himself to say her name, CAYLEE.

 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Brandi on May 10, 2010, 09:22:38 AM
Hi Brandi .. I read here every day, just most of the time am limited in chat time.. I miss you all..
I am hoping the trial is moved to West Palm area so I can go

It'd be nice to have monkeys there!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: flamom on May 10, 2010, 09:22:43 AM
Are Cindy and George there?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Scatty on May 10, 2010, 09:22:52 AM
Ok. I'm done. If JP doesn't put a stop to this garbage masquerading as defense arguments, I can't watch anymore. It irritates me too damn much. I'll catch up later. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: akmom on May 10, 2010, 09:23:25 AM
Maybe they should be playing tape of the Jar yapping about what he thought about this case BEFORE he got hired.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Brandi on May 10, 2010, 09:23:50 AM
Are Cindy and George there?


Haven't seen them yet. I don't think so.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Ono on May 10, 2010, 09:24:22 AM
P'cola would be great, actually.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: flamom on May 10, 2010, 09:24:39 AM
LOL Pensacola is conservative, miltary and will not buy BoBo's bull


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Brandi on May 10, 2010, 09:25:14 AM
Are Cindy and George there?


Haven't seen them yet. I don't think so.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image158-2.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Ono on May 10, 2010, 09:25:27 AM
Duvall County is Jacksonville.......... right?


Jacksonville is the largest city in the U.S. state of Florida, and is the county seat of Duval County.

A whole lot of the reactions Baez has prepared is because of Cindy, IMO.

I agree.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Ono on May 10, 2010, 09:26:34 AM
Maybe they should be playing tape of the Jar yapping about what he thought about this case BEFORE he got hired.

 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 10, 2010, 09:26:51 AM
There is no reason to move this trial, none. Hate when trials are moved  ::MonkeyNoNo:: out of the area.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: darla on May 10, 2010, 09:26:54 AM
Idon't see Cindy and George this morning. Haven't seen Joy Wray in court either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Ono on May 10, 2010, 09:27:12 AM
LOL Pensacola is conservative, miltary and will not buy BoBo's bull

Exactly---that's why it's perfect. lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Ono on May 10, 2010, 09:29:34 AM
GO LINDA!!      ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: akmom on May 10, 2010, 09:30:48 AM
Go girl, gag order on attorneys while waiting for jury to be sequestered


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 10, 2010, 09:30:59 AM
GO LINDA!!      ::MonkeyDance::

Miss Casey Anthony looks pizzed.    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Brandi on May 10, 2010, 09:31:11 AM
GO LINDA!!      ::MonkeyDance::

Linda is GOOD!

Here's Casey listening to her. LOL

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image162-1.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: joesamas mama on May 10, 2010, 09:31:13 AM
just saw George he looked pizzed


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: flamom on May 10, 2010, 09:31:37 AM
Rosebuddy sighting...on Caylee's side?????????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Ono on May 10, 2010, 09:32:02 AM
The charming Anthonys are there....     ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Brandi on May 10, 2010, 09:32:41 AM
just saw George he looked pizzed

Yup. They showed up this time:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image164.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 10, 2010, 09:32:51 AM
Rosebuddy sighting...on Caylee's side?????????
Wouldn't that be nice and about time?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: darla on May 10, 2010, 09:33:17 AM
Are the Ant's sitting on Caylee's side?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 10, 2010, 09:33:35 AM
George is wearing is usual nasty look on his face.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 10, 2010, 09:35:35 AM
Now I'm pizzed big time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: akmom on May 10, 2010, 09:35:39 AM
It looks to me that maybe the judge has had the cameras repositioned.  We are not getting a clear look at Casey from the front.  She is looking rather pizzed though, hehe


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: darla on May 10, 2010, 09:36:01 AM
Nope they are on Casey's side. Idiots


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 10, 2010, 09:36:38 AM
Trial should be by a jury of your peers in the place you committed the crime  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: flamom on May 10, 2010, 09:37:26 AM
WOW.. no change of venue?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Brandi on May 10, 2010, 09:37:45 AM
Are the Ant's sitting on Caylee's side?????

No.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image169.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 10, 2010, 09:39:11 AM
WOW.. no change of venue?
I must have misunderstood, so the trial will be in Orange County and jury bussed in from elsewhere?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: flamom on May 10, 2010, 09:39:53 AM
Thats what I understood NoRose


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 10, 2010, 09:40:41 AM
Thats what I understood NoRose
Thank-you, then that is okay, just bus jury in but keep trial in Orange County.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 10, 2010, 09:40:42 AM
SICK of Baez saying 'Quite Frankly' ACKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Ono on May 10, 2010, 09:40:52 AM
Baez is lost, period.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: akmom on May 10, 2010, 09:41:03 AM
WOW.. no change of venue?
I must have misunderstood, so the trial will be in Orange County and jury bussed in from elsewhere?

That is what I heard, and gag order at some point on Baez big mouth  ooops on attorneys


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Brandi on May 10, 2010, 09:41:20 AM
WOW.. no change of venue?
I must have misunderstood, so the trial will be in Orange County and jury bussed in from elsewhere?


...and sequestered.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 10, 2010, 09:42:09 AM
WOW.. no change of venue?
I must have misunderstood, so the trial will be in Orange County and jury bussed in from elsewhere?

That is what I heard, and gag order at some point on Baez big mouth  ooops on attorneys
Thanks, there should be a gag order come trial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: flamom on May 10, 2010, 09:42:13 AM
BoBo is in so over his head.. It's like a an intern attempting neurosurgery


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: theboyzmom on May 10, 2010, 09:43:16 AM
When bozo says Caylee was "missing" I want to reach through the tv and slap him - she was NEVER missing -Mommy knew exactly where she was!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Ono on May 10, 2010, 09:43:37 AM
I'm waiting for CinCin and or George to yell out and stomp off any minute now ....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 10, 2010, 09:43:57 AM
IKEA I don't recall pics from IKEA.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Ono on May 10, 2010, 09:44:19 AM
BoBo is in so over his head.. It's like a an intern attempting neurosurgery

LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 10, 2010, 09:44:25 AM
I'm waiting for CinCin and or George to yell out and stomp off any minute now ....
Me too


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Brandi on May 10, 2010, 09:44:36 AM
IKEA I don't recall pics from IKEA.

Me neither.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 10, 2010, 09:49:04 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/MOD/MODLOCK1.gif)

>>>>>>>>>>>

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7689.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: crazybabyborg on May 10, 2010, 09:49:43 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/MOD/MODLOCK1.gif)

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7689.0


I just know Nut's gonna be doing the same thing..........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #161 4/28/10 - 5/10/10
Post by: Searching on May 10, 2010, 09:51:34 AM
 ::MonkeyMad::  OFTLOG, it shows that there was no change in demeanor when Caylee "vanished" and it shows that she was lying when she told mommy dearest she was working and all...