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Title: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 - 7/15/10
Post by: MuffyBee on May 04, 2010, 03:20:28 PM
(http://mylifeofcrime.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/haleigh-cummings.jpg)

JUSTICE FOR HALEIGH !!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37
Post by: MuffyBee on May 24, 2010, 04:17:13 PM
 ::MonkeyDance::  It was about time you showed up, Ms. Nut... ::MonkeyHaHa::  That was close.   ::rhino::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 24, 2010, 04:17:26 PM
Justice for Haleigh.     ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 24, 2010, 04:17:29 PM
I have been waiting all day  ::piggy::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37
Post by: MuffyBee on May 24, 2010, 04:18:13 PM
I have been waiting all day  ::piggy::


Mmmhmmm.  I see.  And did you have a reservation?   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37
Post by: MuffyBee on May 24, 2010, 04:20:29 PM
Thanks to Nut, we now have a clean cage.   ::dogwag::  I hope we can find Haleigh before the next thread change.   ::MonkeyAngel::  I keep hoping and praying with each day we are getting closer.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 24, 2010, 04:34:17 PM
 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37
Post by: Brandi on May 24, 2010, 04:41:27 PM
Justice for Haleigh.     ::MonkeyAngel::

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image89-1.png)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 24, 2010, 04:59:14 PM
Just Thinking OutLoud..

If Misty was not home why would she say she was home sleeping? This keeps on bothering me. It would of been better on herself if she came out and stated she went out and left the children while they were sleeping. Misty would get endangering the welfare of a child and other charges at the age of a minor but now not admitting this its like she can get murder charges even if they dont find Haleigh's body.

Misty is young and in love with Ron and him getting a message to her that he loves her and is not going to testify against her in court just gives her hope about their relationship and keep what ever she knows to herself.. I tend to agree she did get this message and how I don't know but thru- out the last 15 months Ron has always stood by her along with his family and thats why I believe Ron did say this..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37
Post by: mymonkey on May 24, 2010, 05:05:06 PM
Justice for Haleigh.     ::MonkeyAngel::

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image89-1.png)


Praying for Justice very soon...nice pic Brandi ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 24, 2010, 05:23:44 PM
Just Thinking OutLoud..

If Misty was not home why would she say she was home sleeping? This keeps on bothering me. It would of been better on herself if she came out and stated she went out and left the children while they were sleeping. Misty would get endangering the welfare of a child and other charges at the age of a minor but now not admitting this its like she can get murder charges even if they dont find Haleigh's body.

Misty is young and in love with Ron and him getting a message to her that he loves her and is not going to testify against her in court just gives her hope about their relationship and keep what ever she knows to herself.. I tend to agree she did get this message and how I don't know but thru- out the last 15 months Ron has always stood by her along with his family and thats why I believe Ron did say this..
I believe she got that message also  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 24, 2010, 05:24:21 PM
Hank tells Tommy that he knows Ron has left the kids home alone in the past.  Ron calling him at 1 am one night looking for Misty. Mentions he is going looking for her and when Hank asks what about the kids Ron's reply was "they'll be alright, they're sleeping"

So if this happened in the past why didn't Ron come home and check to see if the children are ok.. Why did it take him so long to get home after work.. And why oh why did Ron let a careless teenager be the 24 hour care-taker of his precious children.
Ron seens to date and want to be with young teenagers who have trouble at home
just like a child molester seeks for children from broken homes.. Scarey..



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Blonde on May 24, 2010, 06:20:10 PM
So Lindsy had power of attorney and now just she owns the house.
GOOD JOB LINDSY..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 24, 2010, 06:43:43 PM
So Lindsy had power of attorney and now just she owns the house.
GOOD JOB LINDSY..


Lindy received power attorney for Tommy and then signed the home over by Quit Claim Deed to Guy W Sapp ..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Magnolia on May 24, 2010, 06:59:39 PM
So Lindsy had power of attorney and now just she owns the house.
GOOD JOB LINDSY..


Lindy received power attorney for Tommy and then signed the home over by Quit Claim Deed to Guy W Sapp ..


I don't know, but I think that was done so that the State of Florida couldn't take the trailer to pay
Tommy's fine.  There will probably be a hefty fine like the one that Hope got.
Isn't Guy W. Sapp Lindsy's grandpappy?  He seems the type to see to things like that.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2010, 07:02:02 PM
I have been waiting all day  ::piggy::

Thanks Nuts!

Where is HaLeigh? 
She deserves justice right now!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2010, 07:06:46 PM
Art Harris on JVM is saying that MC said that when JO left the trailer with HaLeigh, she heard the door of the van slam, the van that was used to carry HaLeigh to the river.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2010, 07:11:26 PM
Art Harris on JVM is saying that MC said that when JO left the trailer with HaLeigh, she heard the door of the van slam, the van that was used to carry HaLeigh to the river.

Art reports that the audio tapes and videos are a bit behind, from March and April. Art stated that he had just got off the phone with Robert Fields who Art said informed him that MC has told LE all she knows, including the above sentence and they are only waiting for LE to act on it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 24, 2010, 07:19:21 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 24, 2010, 07:23:40 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 24, 2010, 07:24:47 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Blonde on May 24, 2010, 07:44:51 PM
So Lindsy had power of attorney and now just she owns the house.
GOOD JOB LINDSY..


Lindy received power attorney for Tommy and then signed the home over by Quit Claim Deed to Guy W Sapp ..


I don't know, but I think that was done so that the State of Florida couldn't take the trailer to pay
Tommy's fine.  There will probably be a hefty fine like the one that Hope got.
Isn't Guy W. Sapp Lindsy's grandpappy?  He seems the type to see to things like that.


Croslin, Lindsy Kate Collins
sister-in-law of Misty Jeanette Croslin, married to Hank Thomas Croslin Jr (aka Tommy), as of 1/26/2009 the mobile home that she and Tommy live in (at 116 Tyler St) is co-owned by Lindsy and Guy W. Sapp, grew up in Flagler Beach, FL, possible grand-daughter of Guy W. Sapp


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2010, 07:46:21 PM
Haleigh Cummings – Yet More Jail Vids – DVD 3

Posted on May 24th, 2010
by Simon Barrett in Society and Culture, crime


I suspect that my good friend over at The Sky 97.3 TJ Hart might have these running already over on his site. But I will publish the tapes anyway, I am sure that there are some folks that have not heard them.

This DVD contains conversations between Tommy Croslin and his wife Lindsay Croslin.

It would be easy to offer some ‘Op Ed’ on these tapes, but I think I will refrain. The entire Haleigh Cummings story is so sad that to even discuss the family is enough to give even the most seasoned seafarer a case of Sea sickness.

Do any of these tapes help find Haleigh Cummings? The answer has to be a resounding NO. But they do reveal much about the family dynamics involved in both the Croslin and Cummings families.

Tommy One    http://www.bloggernews.net/indepth/Haleigh/may21/dvd3/tommy%20dvd1%201_1%20Lindsay.mp4

Tommy Two    http://www.bloggernews.net/indepth/Haleigh/may21/dvd3/tommy%20dvd2%201_2%20Lindsay.mp4

Tommy Three   http://www.bloggernews.net/indepth/Haleigh/may21/dvd3/tommy%20dvd1%202_1%20Lindsay.mp4

Tommy Four   http://www.bloggernews.net/indepth/Haleigh/may21/dvd3/tommy%20dvd1%202_2%20Lindsay.mp4

Once again, there are large files, it will take a few minutes to download the files.

Simon and Jan Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/124604


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 24, 2010, 08:01:13 PM
Art Harris on JVM is saying that MC said that when JO left the trailer with HaLeigh, she heard the door of the van slam, the van that was used to carry HaLeigh to the river.

Art reports that the audio tapes and videos are a bit behind, from March and April. Art stated that he had just got off the phone with Robert Fields who Art said informed him that MC has told LE all she knows, including the above sentence and they are only waiting for LE to act on it.
So they are waiting for LE to act on a dream that Misty had about Joe?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 24, 2010, 08:18:59 PM
Art Harris on JVM is saying that MC said that when JO left the trailer with HaLeigh, she heard the door of the van slam, the van that was used to carry HaLeigh to the river.

Art reports that the audio tapes and videos are a bit behind, from March and April. Art stated that he had just got off the phone with Robert Fields who Art said informed him that MC has told LE all she knows, including the above sentence and they are only waiting for LE to act on it.
So they are waiting for LE to act on a dream that Misty had about Joe?  ::MonkeyEek::

Can't wait to see what's on the tapes of phone conversations once Tommy and Misty found out that Ron is going to testify against them!!



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: AZSunny on May 24, 2010, 08:21:04 PM
Art Harris on JVM is saying that MC said that when JO left the trailer with HaLeigh, she heard the door of the van slam, the van that was used to carry HaLeigh to the river.

Art reports that the audio tapes and videos are a bit behind, from March and April. Art stated that he had just got off the phone with Robert Fields who Art said informed him that MC has told LE all she knows, including the above sentence and they are only waiting for LE to act on it.
So they are waiting for LE to act on a dream that Misty had about Joe?  ::MonkeyEek::

That about sums it up, doesn't it?   ::rhino::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 24, 2010, 08:22:33 PM
Art Harris on JVM is saying that MC said that when JO left the trailer with HaLeigh, she heard the door of the van slam, the van that was used to carry HaLeigh to the river.

...and if that is so, why didn't she call the police immediately?!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 24, 2010, 08:25:42 PM
Art Harris on JVM is saying that MC said that when JO left the trailer with HaLeigh, she heard the door of the van slam, the van that was used to carry HaLeigh to the river.

Art reports that the audio tapes and videos are a bit behind, from March and April. Art stated that he had just got off the phone with Robert Fields who Art said informed him that MC has told LE all she knows, including the above sentence and they are only waiting for LE to act on it.
So they are waiting for LE to act on a dream that Misty had about Joe?  ::MonkeyEek::

Can't wait to see what's on the tapes of phone conversations once Tommy and Misty found out that Ron is going to testify against them!!


Oh yeah  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 24, 2010, 08:26:13 PM
Art Harris on JVM is saying that MC said that when JO left the trailer with HaLeigh, she heard the door of the van slam, the van that was used to carry HaLeigh to the river.

Art reports that the audio tapes and videos are a bit behind, from March and April. Art stated that he had just got off the phone with Robert Fields who Art said informed him that MC has told LE all she knows, including the above sentence and they are only waiting for LE to act on it.
So they are waiting for LE to act on a dream that Misty had about Joe?  ::MonkeyEek::

That about sums it up, doesn't it?   ::rhino::
Just crazy  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: AZSunny on May 24, 2010, 09:09:30 PM
Art Harris on JVM is saying that MC said that when JO left the trailer with HaLeigh, she heard the door of the van slam, the van that was used to carry HaLeigh to the river.

...and if that is so, why didn't she call the police immediately?!

Darn good question.  It really makes no sense at all.  Maybe this is part of the dream sequence.  too bizarre.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: SuzieQ on May 24, 2010, 10:28:11 PM
Art Harris on JVM is saying that MC said that when JO left the trailer with HaLeigh, she heard the door of the van slam, the van that was used to carry HaLeigh to the river.

Art reports that the audio tapes and videos are a bit behind, from March and April. Art stated that he had just got off the phone with Robert Fields who Art said informed him that MC has told LE all she knows, including the above sentence and they are only waiting for LE to act on it.
So they are waiting for LE to act on a dream that Misty had about Joe?  ::MonkeyEek::

Can't wait to see what's on the tapes of phone conversations once Tommy and Misty found out that Ron is going to testify against them!!


Oh yeah  ::MonkeyEek::


I want to hear what they have to say when they find out Hope got 15 years.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Monkey with Class on May 25, 2010, 10:44:19 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/23667593/detail.html

In the video, Misty's father begs his incarcerated daughter to just tell the truth. Misty also complains about being bored and that she cannot see her brother who is also in jail.
"Don't be holding nothing back from nobody," said Hank Croslin, Sr.
"Daddy, I'm not," said Misty.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: flutter1 on May 25, 2010, 11:07:50 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/23667593/detail.html

In the video, Misty's father begs his incarcerated daughter to just tell the truth. Misty also complains about being bored and that she cannot see her brother who is also in jail.
"Don't be holding nothing back from nobody," said Hank Croslin, Sr.
"Daddy, I'm not," said Misty.

I find it interesting (revealing, perhaps), that Hank Sr. continues to implore to tell the truth/what she knows.  It is as if he knows that she is holding back on something. ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 25, 2010, 11:13:00 AM


I am surprised to some extent that Ronald's father Lester has been very quiet I would like to hear what he thinks of this "mess" ::rhino::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 25, 2010, 11:17:19 AM


I am surprised to some extent that Ronald's father Lester has been very quiet I would like to hear what he thinks of this "mess" ::rhino::
I think Lester has washed his hands of all this awhile ago  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 25, 2010, 12:01:27 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/23667593/detail.html

In the video, Misty's father begs his incarcerated daughter to just tell the truth. Misty also complains about being bored and that she cannot see her brother who is also in jail.
"Don't be holding nothing back from nobody," said Hank Croslin, Sr.
"Daddy, I'm not," said Misty.

I find it interesting (revealing, perhaps), that Hank Sr. continues to implore to tell the truth/what she knows.  It is as if he knows that she is holding back on something. ::CowboySmiley::

I think that Hank Sr. finally figured it out that his kids are both liars. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 25, 2010, 12:04:42 PM


I am surprised to some extent that Ronald's father Lester has been very quiet I would like to hear what he thinks of this "mess" ::rhino::
I think Lester has washed his hands of all this awhile ago  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree. And I don't think he was ever much in Ronald's life since he was born.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 25, 2010, 12:05:42 PM


I am surprised to some extent that Ronald's father Lester has been very quiet I would like to hear what he thinks of this "mess" ::rhino::
I think Lester has washed his hands of all this awhile ago  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree. And I don't think he was ever much in Ronald's life since he was born.
I don't think so either  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 25, 2010, 12:57:23 PM


I am surprised to some extent that Ronald's father Lester has been very quiet I would like to hear what he thinks of this "mess" ::rhino::
I think Lester has washed his hands of all this awhile ago  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree. And I don't think he was ever much in Ronald's life since he was born.
I don't think so either  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Thanks NRCG and Brandi,

I just recalled he was on Gerardo (sp)  I can understand that he would not want any part of this, but I just wonder if he ever saw his grandchildren?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on May 25, 2010, 01:28:58 PM
After listening to the newest tapes, released, I have pondered and thought about this mess until my head aches !
IMO I STILL feel that Misty and Ron are key players in this situation.

After listening to several of the audios and videos, there is NO doubt
that Hank, Sr. sincerly and deeply loves his children. Love is not
enough in this case. The vicious cycle of under educated, no skills,
and really basic living skills NEEDS to be taught to these people, and then the cycle will be broken, perhaps.
Tommy, Timmy, and Misty are a good place to start ! Social intervention ?



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 25, 2010, 01:43:59 PM


I am surprised to some extent that Ronald's father Lester has been very quiet I would like to hear what he thinks of this "mess" ::rhino::
I think Lester has washed his hands of all this awhile ago  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree. And I don't think he was ever much in Ronald's life since he was born.
I don't think so either  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Thanks NRCG and Brandi,

I just recalled he was on Gerardo (sp)  I can understand that he would not want any part of this, but I just wonder if he ever saw his grandchildren?

I don't know if he had any relationship with them or not. I do know he has a lengthy law record though, from fraud, trespassing, DUI, assault, probation violation (and I think animal cruelty, but cannot find that substantiated ATM) so I don't think he'd be a very good role model for these kids.

Not that any other adult relatives in their lives are.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 25, 2010, 03:04:50 PM
Very interesting to me, the theory that some on other boards have... that perhaps TN is the mastermind of all, that all this seeming 'cover-up' is everyone covering for her, that she is in this up to her eyeballs. 

When the odd things about TN are listed, one after another, it becomes rather overwhemingly possible that she knows everything, perhaps was even the one to blame for Haleigh's death.  Perhaps not the one responsible, but the main one leading a cover-up for her death.  And at the very least, perhaps was the one who has kept everything from falling apart for all this time, until it reached the point that she had no further control.  (the trafficking charges).

Think about all that we've read from and about TN, and when the list goes around the corner and 5 miles down the road, you may begin to get a picture of what I'm talking about. 

There's too many things to remember off the top of my head.  Here's just a few things from what I've read here and elsewhere online.  Maybe we could start our own thread on all the different things we've learned, and some of the things we are wondering, just about TN? 

~TN knew that Oxys have a bitter taste.  From what I understand about Oxys, the only time it tastes bitter is when the coating is removed in order to get a faster high.  Soooooo... how does TN know about this? 

~ A side note... Did anyone else realize that Oxys can be crushed or whatever and used in a nebulizer?  Haleigh used a nebulizer.  Did someone else use hers, didn't clean it out, and perhaps Haleigh OD'd when she used it again? 

~ TN had been in a car accident, was in pain and off work.  Was she taking pain pills?  Did she have a prescrip for Oxys?  Did Haleigh perhaps get ahold of one of HER pain pills? 

~ TN said that 'she sent' AS over to the MH that night, yet didn't volunteer that info up until about 2 weeks later.  And still didn't mention, at that time, the family member who came along with AS, who just by chance, happens to be a nurse.  Was something wrong with Haleigh?  Had she 'fallen asleep' and couldn't be awakened, fell into a coma, was she having some kind of physical reaction to having somehow been given (or had taken) something that was causing her great distress?  Was the family member who is a nurse brought over to help care for Haleigh?  Is that what the 8:30p (or so) fight on the phone with Ron was about?  Perhaps them telling him that they'd take care of things, and for him to stay at work and act as if all was well???  (wouldn't you just lovvvvvvve to see the phone records for everyone for that night??  whose phone pinged where....) 

~ Was the blanket that 'they took' actually something used by.. perhaps TN/AS and/or another family member.. rather than the guys that we've been thinking did that?  Wrapped in a blanket, Haleigh's body 'could have' been placed in the back of a little red truck, just as easily as in a blue van.  Just saying....

~ Where were the 'other family members' that night, between the hours of 9p and 4a?  I'm talking about TN, AS, Hope, Crystal Cummings (Ron's sister), and all the various aunts/uncles/cousins??  Do they have alibis?  We've heard that TN was busy.  Have we heard what she was busy doing?  Could any of them besides the main players have been the ones burying Haleigh, before/while the MH was being cleaned up and 911 was then called? 

~ Could Misty actually be telling the truth, that she was asleep (ie passed out), or so dang 'out of it' that she didn't know what went on that night?  Is it possible that Misty has been set up to be the 'fall guy', while others in Ron's family took care of cleaning things up and creating a script for everyone to follow?  Then 'telling' Misty what her part in all this would be, what to say, what to do....... or else?  Misty, being so dang 'out of it' having no clear memory of anything at all, goes along with it, perhaps not realizing that she's been thrown under the bus?  Is that why she is so dang 'fuzzy' about everything?  Her inconsistencies being the different things she can remember, as well as what others have said and/or told her?  And Ron, perhaps threatening her with his ever-present gun, to go along with what she is told?  Not to say that Misty is totally innocent in all this... Just saying that 'maybe' she is not as 'guilty' as she seems.  Things 'could have' been set up for her to be the guilty one, taken advantage of, perhaps, because she was so 'out of it' already and likely wouldn't remember.  What if??????? 

~ TN got to the MH in a fast hurry that night, brought that 8x10 glossy pic of Haleigh with her, and just happened to wear her LE jacket, altho she hadn't worked for them in some time.  She 'could have' been somewhere other than one of her homes (like 60 miles away or so) that night, but if so, would she 'just happened to have' a huge pic of Haleigh with her?  Did she perhaps show up with that 8x10 pic in order to help give the impression that Haleigh had been abducted?  Why else come with pic in hand? 

~ Speaking of TN's various homes, why did she report living at the one that was so far away, yet it was found that she actually lived much closer?  Why so mysterious about where she actually lives?  What is so important about these various homes, that TN seems to feel a need to be so mysterious?   

~ It was reported by someone in the area that 'a red truck' was seen parked that night near the railroad tracks.  TN drives/drove a red truck.  Is that how she got there so fast?  Had already been at the MH, left before LE showed up, told Ron to call her, parked a little way from the MH, so she could 'arrive' there just after LE did? 

~ Could everyone be covering for something that happened to Haleigh, which involved TN?  Would Ron work so dang hard at this, covering for his mother... all the while we've been thinking TN has been covering for him? 

I got lots more, just on TN, that has been said her and elsewhere online... am sure others can add to this list.  But for the sake of length, in this thread, I'll end it here for now. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 25, 2010, 03:10:58 PM
Very interesting to me, the theory that some on other boards have... that perhaps TN is the mastermind of all, that all this seeming 'cover-up' is everyone covering for her, that she is in this up to her eyeballs. 

When the odd things about TN are listed, one after another, it becomes rather overwhemingly possible that she knows everything, perhaps was even the one to blame for Haleigh's death.  Perhaps not the one responsible, but the main one leading a cover-up for her death.  And at the very least, perhaps was the one who has kept everything from falling apart for all this time, until it reached the point that she had no further control.  (the trafficking charges).

Think about all that we've read from and about TN, and when the list goes around the corner and 5 miles down the road, you may begin to get a picture of what I'm talking about. 

There's too many things to remember off the top of my head.  Here's just a few things from what I've read here and elsewhere online.  Maybe we could start our own thread on all the different things we've learned, and some of the things we are wondering, just about TN? 

~TN knew that Oxys have a bitter taste.  From what I understand about Oxys, the only time it tastes bitter is when the coating is removed in order to get a faster high.  Soooooo... how does TN know about this? 

~ A side note... Did anyone else realize that Oxys can be crushed or whatever and used in a nebulizer?  Haleigh used a nebulizer.  Did someone else use hers, didn't clean it out, and perhaps Haleigh OD'd when she used it again? 

~ TN had been in a car accident, was in pain and off work.  Was she taking pain pills?  Did she have a prescrip for Oxys?  Did Haleigh perhaps get ahold of one of HER pain pills? 

~ TN said that 'she sent' AS over to the MH that night, yet didn't volunteer that info up until about 2 weeks later.  And still didn't mention, at that time, the family member who came along with AS, who just by chance, happens to be a nurse.  Was something wrong with Haleigh?  Had she 'fallen asleep' and couldn't be awakened, fell into a coma, was she having some kind of physical reaction to having somehow been given (or had taken) something that was causing her great distress?  Was the family member who is a nurse brought over to help care for Haleigh?  Is that what the 8:30p (or so) fight on the phone with Ron was about?  Perhaps them telling him that they'd take care of things, and for him to stay at work and act as if all was well???  (wouldn't you just lovvvvvvve to see the phone records for everyone for that night??  whose phone pinged where....) 

~ Was the blanket that 'they took' actually something used by.. perhaps TN/AS and/or another family member.. rather than the guys that we've been thinking did that?  Wrapped in a blanket, Haleigh's body 'could have' been placed in the back of a little red truck, just as easily as in a blue van.  Just saying....

~ Where were the 'other family members' that night, between the hours of 9p and 4a?  I'm talking about TN, AS, Hope, Crystal Cummings (Ron's sister), and all the various aunts/uncles/cousins??  Do they have alibis?  We've heard that TN was busy.  Have we heard what she was busy doing?  Could any of them besides the main players have been the ones burying Haleigh, before/while the MH was being cleaned up and 911 was then called? 

~ Could Misty actually be telling the truth, that she was asleep (ie passed out), or so dang 'out of it' that she didn't know what went on that night?  Is it possible that Misty has been set up to be the 'fall guy', while others in Ron's family took care of cleaning things up and creating a script for everyone to follow?  Then 'telling' Misty what her part in all this would be, what to say, what to do....... or else?  Misty, being so dang 'out of it' having no clear memory of anything at all, goes along with it, perhaps not realizing that she's been thrown under the bus?  Is that why she is so dang 'fuzzy' about everything?  Her inconsistencies being the different things she can remember, as well as what others have said and/or told her?  And Ron, perhaps threatening her with his ever-present gun, to go along with what she is told?  Not to say that Misty is totally innocent in all this... Just saying that 'maybe' she is not as 'guilty' as she seems.  Things 'could have' been set up for her to be the guilty one, taken advantage of, perhaps, because she was so 'out of it' already and likely wouldn't remember.  What if??????? 

~ TN got to the MH in a fast hurry that night, brought that 8x10 glossy pic of Haleigh with her, and just happened to wear her LE jacket, altho she hadn't worked for them in some time.  She 'could have' been somewhere other than one of her homes (like 60 miles away or so) that night, but if so, would she 'just happened to have' a huge pic of Haleigh with her?  Did she perhaps show up with that 8x10 pic in order to help give the impression that Haleigh had been abducted?  Why else come with pic in hand? 

~ Speaking of TN's various homes, why did she report living at the one that was so far away, yet it was found that she actually lived much closer?  Why so mysterious about where she actually lives?  What is so important about these various homes, that TN seems to feel a need to be so mysterious?   

~ It was reported by someone in the area that 'a red truck' was seen parked that night near the railroad tracks.  TN drives/drove a red truck.  Is that how she got there so fast?  Had already been at the MH, left before LE showed up, told Ron to call her, parked a little way from the MH, so she could 'arrive' there just after LE did? 

~ Could everyone be covering for something that happened to Haleigh, which involved TN?  Would Ron work so dang hard at this, covering for his mother... all the while we've been thinking TN has been covering for him? 

I got lots more, just on TN, that has been said her and elsewhere online... am sure others can add to this list.  But for the sake of length, in this thread, I'll end it here for now. 


Thanks Wykes,

I have always felt TN and GGMS  were more involved than met the eye...and my question about her coming with photo in hand..would Ron not have a photo of Haleigh in the home..that would be as recent as the one TN had.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 25, 2010, 03:13:18 PM
Very interesting to me, the theory that some on other boards have... that perhaps TN is the mastermind of all, that all this seeming 'cover-up' is everyone covering for her, that she is in this up to her eyeballs. 

When the odd things about TN are listed, one after another, it becomes rather overwhemingly possible that she knows everything, perhaps was even the one to blame for Haleigh's death.  Perhaps not the one responsible, but the main one leading a cover-up for her death.  And at the very least, perhaps was the one who has kept everything from falling apart for all this time, until it reached the point that she had no further control.  (the trafficking charges).

Think about all that we've read from and about TN, and when the list goes around the corner and 5 miles down the road, you may begin to get a picture of what I'm talking about. 

There's too many things to remember off the top of my head.  Here's just a few things from what I've read here and elsewhere online.  Maybe we could start our own thread on all the different things we've learned, and some of the things we are wondering, just about TN? 

~TN knew that Oxys have a bitter taste.  From what I understand about Oxys, the only time it tastes bitter is when the coating is removed in order to get a faster high.  Soooooo... how does TN know about this? 

~ A side note... Did anyone else realize that Oxys can be crushed or whatever and used in a nebulizer?  Haleigh used a nebulizer.  Did someone else use hers, didn't clean it out, and perhaps Haleigh OD'd when she used it again? 

~ TN had been in a car accident, was in pain and off work.  Was she taking pain pills?  Did she have a prescrip for Oxys?  Did Haleigh perhaps get ahold of one of HER pain pills? 

~ TN said that 'she sent' AS over to the MH that night, yet didn't volunteer that info up until about 2 weeks later.  And still didn't mention, at that time, the family member who came along with AS, who just by chance, happens to be a nurse.  Was something wrong with Haleigh?  Had she 'fallen asleep' and couldn't be awakened, fell into a coma, was she having some kind of physical reaction to having somehow been given (or had taken) something that was causing her great distress?  Was the family member who is a nurse brought over to help care for Haleigh?  Is that what the 8:30p (or so) fight on the phone with Ron was about?  Perhaps them telling him that they'd take care of things, and for him to stay at work and act as if all was well???  (wouldn't you just lovvvvvvve to see the phone records for everyone for that night??  whose phone pinged where....) 

~ Was the blanket that 'they took' actually something used by.. perhaps TN/AS and/or another family member.. rather than the guys that we've been thinking did that?  Wrapped in a blanket, Haleigh's body 'could have' been placed in the back of a little red truck, just as easily as in a blue van.  Just saying....

~ Where were the 'other family members' that night, between the hours of 9p and 4a?  I'm talking about TN, AS, Hope, Crystal Cummings (Ron's sister), and all the various aunts/uncles/cousins??  Do they have alibis?  We've heard that TN was busy.  Have we heard what she was busy doing?  Could any of them besides the main players have been the ones burying Haleigh, before/while the MH was being cleaned up and 911 was then called? 

~ Could Misty actually be telling the truth, that she was asleep (ie passed out), or so dang 'out of it' that she didn't know what went on that night?  Is it possible that Misty has been set up to be the 'fall guy', while others in Ron's family took care of cleaning things up and creating a script for everyone to follow?  Then 'telling' Misty what her part in all this would be, what to say, what to do....... or else?  Misty, being so dang 'out of it' having no clear memory of anything at all, goes along with it, perhaps not realizing that she's been thrown under the bus?  Is that why she is so dang 'fuzzy' about everything?  Her inconsistencies being the different things she can remember, as well as what others have said and/or told her?  And Ron, perhaps threatening her with his ever-present gun, to go along with what she is told?  Not to say that Misty is totally innocent in all this... Just saying that 'maybe' she is not as 'guilty' as she seems.  Things 'could have' been set up for her to be the guilty one, taken advantage of, perhaps, because she was so 'out of it' already and likely wouldn't remember.  What if??????? 

~ TN got to the MH in a fast hurry that night, brought that 8x10 glossy pic of Haleigh with her, and just happened to wear her LE jacket, altho she hadn't worked for them in some time.  She 'could have' been somewhere other than one of her homes (like 60 miles away or so) that night, but if so, would she 'just happened to have' a huge pic of Haleigh with her?  Did she perhaps show up with that 8x10 pic in order to help give the impression that Haleigh had been abducted?  Why else come with pic in hand? 

~ Speaking of TN's various homes, why did she report living at the one that was so far away, yet it was found that she actually lived much closer?  Why so mysterious about where she actually lives?  What is so important about these various homes, that TN seems to feel a need to be so mysterious?   

~ It was reported by someone in the area that 'a red truck' was seen parked that night near the railroad tracks.  TN drives/drove a red truck.  Is that how she got there so fast?  Had already been at the MH, left before LE showed up, told Ron to call her, parked a little way from the MH, so she could 'arrive' there just after LE did? 

~ Could everyone be covering for something that happened to Haleigh, which involved TN?  Would Ron work so dang hard at this, covering for his mother... all the while we've been thinking TN has been covering for him? 

I got lots more, just on TN, that has been said her and elsewhere online... am sure others can add to this list.  But for the sake of length, in this thread, I'll end it here for now. 


Thanks Wykes,

I have always felt TN and GGMS  were more involved than met the eye...and my question about her coming with photo in hand..would Ron not have a photo of Haleigh in the home..that would be as recent as the one TN had.


Wyks....sorry I misspelled your name. ::piggy::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Monkey with Class on May 25, 2010, 03:17:57 PM
Very interesting to me, the theory that some on other boards have... that perhaps TN is the mastermind of all, that all this seeming 'cover-up' is everyone covering for her, that she is in this up to her eyeballs. 

When the odd things about TN are listed, one after another, it becomes rather overwhemingly possible that she knows everything, perhaps was even the one to blame for Haleigh's death.  Perhaps not the one responsible, but the main one leading a cover-up for her death.  And at the very least, perhaps was the one who has kept everything from falling apart for all this time, until it reached the point that she had no further control.  (the trafficking charges).

Think about all that we've read from and about TN, and when the list goes around the corner and 5 miles down the road, you may begin to get a picture of what I'm talking about. 

There's too many things to remember off the top of my head.  Here's just a few things from what I've read here and elsewhere online.  Maybe we could start our own thread on all the different things we've learned, and some of the things we are wondering, just about TN? 

~TN knew that Oxys have a bitter taste.  From what I understand about Oxys, the only time it tastes bitter is when the coating is removed in order to get a faster high.  Soooooo... how does TN know about this? 

~ A side note... Did anyone else realize that Oxys can be crushed or whatever and used in a nebulizer?  Haleigh used a nebulizer.  Did someone else use hers, didn't clean it out, and perhaps Haleigh OD'd when she used it again? 

~ TN had been in a car accident, was in pain and off work.  Was she taking pain pills?  Did she have a prescrip for Oxys?  Did Haleigh perhaps get ahold of one of HER pain pills? 

~ TN said that 'she sent' AS over to the MH that night, yet didn't volunteer that info up until about 2 weeks later.  And still didn't mention, at that time, the family member who came along with AS, who just by chance, happens to be a nurse.  Was something wrong with Haleigh?  Had she 'fallen asleep' and couldn't be awakened, fell into a coma, was she having some kind of physical reaction to having somehow been given (or had taken) something that was causing her great distress?  Was the family member who is a nurse brought over to help care for Haleigh?  Is that what the 8:30p (or so) fight on the phone with Ron was about?  Perhaps them telling him that they'd take care of things, and for him to stay at work and act as if all was well???  (wouldn't you just lovvvvvvve to see the phone records for everyone for that night??  whose phone pinged where....) 

~ Was the blanket that 'they took' actually something used by.. perhaps TN/AS and/or another family member.. rather than the guys that we've been thinking did that?  Wrapped in a blanket, Haleigh's body 'could have' been placed in the back of a little red truck, just as easily as in a blue van.  Just saying....

~ Where were the 'other family members' that night, between the hours of 9p and 4a?  I'm talking about TN, AS, Hope, Crystal Cummings (Ron's sister), and all the various aunts/uncles/cousins??  Do they have alibis?  We've heard that TN was busy.  Have we heard what she was busy doing?  Could any of them besides the main players have been the ones burying Haleigh, before/while the MH was being cleaned up and 911 was then called? 

~ Could Misty actually be telling the truth, that she was asleep (ie passed out), or so dang 'out of it' that she didn't know what went on that night?  Is it possible that Misty has been set up to be the 'fall guy', while others in Ron's family took care of cleaning things up and creating a script for everyone to follow?  Then 'telling' Misty what her part in all this would be, what to say, what to do....... or else?  Misty, being so dang 'out of it' having no clear memory of anything at all, goes along with it, perhaps not realizing that she's been thrown under the bus?  Is that why she is so dang 'fuzzy' about everything?  Her inconsistencies being the different things she can remember, as well as what others have said and/or told her?  And Ron, perhaps threatening her with his ever-present gun, to go along with what she is told?  Not to say that Misty is totally innocent in all this... Just saying that 'maybe' she is not as 'guilty' as she seems.  Things 'could have' been set up for her to be the guilty one, taken advantage of, perhaps, because she was so 'out of it' already and likely wouldn't remember.  What if??????? 

~ TN got to the MH in a fast hurry that night, brought that 8x10 glossy pic of Haleigh with her, and just happened to wear her LE jacket, altho she hadn't worked for them in some time.  She 'could have' been somewhere other than one of her homes (like 60 miles away or so) that night, but if so, would she 'just happened to have' a huge pic of Haleigh with her?  Did she perhaps show up with that 8x10 pic in order to help give the impression that Haleigh had been abducted?  Why else come with pic in hand? 

~ Speaking of TN's various homes, why did she report living at the one that was so far away, yet it was found that she actually lived much closer?  Why so mysterious about where she actually lives?  What is so important about these various homes, that TN seems to feel a need to be so mysterious?   

~ It was reported by someone in the area that 'a red truck' was seen parked that night near the railroad tracks.  TN drives/drove a red truck.  Is that how she got there so fast?  Had already been at the MH, left before LE showed up, told Ron to call her, parked a little way from the MH, so she could 'arrive' there just after LE did? 

~ Could everyone be covering for something that happened to Haleigh, which involved TN?  Would Ron work so dang hard at this, covering for his mother... all the while we've been thinking TN has been covering for him? 

I got lots more, just on TN, that has been said her and elsewhere online... am sure others can add to this list.  But for the sake of length, in this thread, I'll end it here for now. 


Very  possible.   Thanks for the thought provoking post.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on May 25, 2010, 03:40:35 PM
Lindsy has a new man! Also, scroll down for the story!

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-448351


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 25, 2010, 03:51:20 PM
Lindsy has a new man! Also, scroll down for the story!

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-448351
Wow, wow, wow, thanks for posting that  ::MonkeyShocked::   Wyks thank-you for your post, I've felt that Teresa knows a lot, but seeing everything outlined like that....... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Curly on May 25, 2010, 03:51:45 PM
Wyks:
     I kind of like that theory but why would Misty and Tommy go along with it, especially since Ron has now divorced her azz?
I'd like to hear more about TN.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2010, 03:59:48 PM
Art, I understand you have just gotten off the phone with Misty`s attorney. What is he telling you?

ART HARRIS, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST: Jane, just a few minutes ago I spoke with Robert Fields, Misty Cummings -- Misty Croslin`s lawyer, who says she has revealed everything she knows to police. They have her story on tape. And they are now just waiting to hear back from law enforcement. He says, quote, "It`s like a garage sale. We`ve put it all out there, and we`re just waiting for someone to buy it."
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1005/24/ijvm.01.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Curly on May 25, 2010, 04:00:48 PM
Lindsy has a new man! Also, scroll down for the story!

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-448351

OMG! The person must know her to have those pictures, correct?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 25, 2010, 04:12:37 PM
Lindsy has a new man! Also, scroll down for the story!

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-448351

OMG! The person must know her to have those pictures, correct?


YIKES......the article said she had phone sex with ::CowboySmiley:: and web cam sex with him as well ::lookie:: what in the world was she thinking....I am once again ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on May 25, 2010, 04:14:07 PM
iReport —

I am writing to give some information on Lindsay Croslin for those who don’t know who she really is. She is not the innocent girl she portrays nor is she a victim in any way shape or form. She claimed to stand by her husband no matter what and swore by his innocence. She said she would wait for him forever and loved him although she was dating the second he went to jail not to mention when he was home and they were together. Once she got a taste of freedom she immediately started seeing multiple men, talking to ex boyfriends whom she cheated on Tommy with in the past and is now talking to a new lover Keith Simpson. This not so bright 23 year old mother of 3 openly tells people stories of her unprotected sex with all of these men stating “I have my tubes tied so I can’t get pregnant” Should someone inform her she can contract and spread STDS? Is this not the girl who recently got her LPN license? I would be worried if she was going to care for one of my loved ones! Her filing for divorce came from her new attitude once dating Keith whom is over 10 years older than her and she takes care of better than her children. She admitted she was dating him because she did not want to be alone. She stated she would go back to Tommy once he got out and filed for divorce by her families request. In fact she recently put the divorce on hold. If her grandparents found out she would loose her free apartment and brand new car all provided to her by them. She parties hard, leaving her three young children unsupervised frequently, many people witnessed her children left alone or roaming outside filthy and uncared for. She was given her place to live by her grandparents where she has no bills or responsibility. Her grandfather bought her the brand new car which she lets her new boyfriend drive like it is his. This new car she uses to pick up her boyfriend daily to bring him to and from work and anywhere else he wants to go when he is not driving it. This new boyfriend of hers she has not even known a couple months and she already has him living in her home on a daily basis and his company has been grounds for calls to the police recently. The people she associates with are scum at its finest and she is ok with having that in her home and around her children at any hour of the night. There are videos and video footage of them together and on several occasions. She admits to using Xanax more than once while drinking, and brags how she got her DCF case to go away so easily. How they didn’t take her children is beyond anyone seeing as she has been spotted in the same clothes for days at a time and is always sleeping while her kids wander outdoors. Many people have witnessed this in the town homes where she resides. She is a manipulative liar who will use anyone to get where she wants to be. She uses the state of Florida for almost 1000 dollars in food stamps a month and gives them away to her new boyfriend and anyone else as well. Why is the state helping someone who is not helping themselves? She tells everyone who she is as if she is a movie star and she is proud of it. I met her once and she willingly told me her life story as well as anyone else who comes into contact with her. I met someone whom she allowed to move in with her who also offered up various information about what goes on in her home and her life. Her children have been affected by her new relationship and the fact that this man who has his own home is always sleeping in her house by her request. Her son is seeing a therapist now by request of the school due to him acting out very badly lately. She puts her own needs before her children. She was recently hired by the Department of Health in Bunnell with no experience and used her sob stories as a way in the door. She needs to have her DCF case reopened and she needs serious help. How she has 3 children and a brand new man in her home all night in a 2 bedroom makes no sense. She brags on her Myspace how she has only 200 dollars in bills a month and she cant wait to blow her 1100.00 checks every two weeks. I hope she reported this new job to the state of Florida seeing as she is receiving assistance. It is all very disturbing. The Croslins which she bashes publicly she is also willing to leave her children with in exchange for the money Hank and Lisa “owe” her. She still remains in contact with all of them although she denies it to most. Her phone records show otherwise. She admits that she had phone sex as well as provocative web cam conversations with bounty hunter Leonard Padilla on the lap top that was bought by him for her. She had these conversations in exchange for money for bills she claimed she had to pay, yet she has no bills and lives off of her grandparents and the state. The only bills she has is a water and electric bill and she is willing to have her 3 children herself her large pit bull (which she has been known to abuse and neglect) and her boyfriend crammed into a small 2 bedroom to avoid having to pay bills although she has a job and a brand new car. She is using her grandparents to get all that she has. She brags about the fact that Art Harris as well as many other reporters call her constantly. She is trailer trash at its finest. There are several more pictures of her with her new boyfriend as well as other men she has been partying with. Where are her children? I saw these photos online on some ones Myspace page who she appears to associate with. This girl needs to be investigated in a major way. Her and Chelsea know more than they let on and they speak multiple times daily. As I said her phone records would prove a lot. I don’t understand how she was overlooked all along.

Her stories change like the wind blows. She changed her story about what went on at her home the night Haliegh disappeared not to mention she still stood by Tommy the night he had his grandmother call her to have her call the attorney because he had to “tell him something he should have said a long time ago“. She also was running around town after being questioned in April telling everyone they were looking for a yellow rope although this took over a week to air on television. Her van which she got rid of she “lended” out the night of the disappearance. Something just seems out of place with this girl and her stories. After all she is a Croslin and even the ones that are by marriage all seem to be just as shady as the ones who are Croslins by blood.

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-448351


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on May 25, 2010, 04:19:34 PM
This guy just put Lindsy's whole life out there for everyone to see lol ....gee I wonder what Tommy will say when he finds out!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 25, 2010, 04:22:50 PM
Lindsy has a new man! Also, scroll down for the story!

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-448351

OMG! The person must know her to have those pictures, correct?


YIKES......the article said she had phone sex with ::CowboySmiley:: and web cam sex with him as well ::lookie:: what in the world was she thinking....I am once again ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::
I was hoping I misread that, guess not  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: NCSunny on May 25, 2010, 04:23:07 PM
Lindsy has a new man! Also, scroll down for the story!

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-448351


Wow,  ty Izzy...very interesting! Looks like Lindsy bamboozled me, I really thought she was the better of the bunch...  ::MonkeyEek::

Would like to see what Leonard has to say about the 'phone sex and web cam converstions.' Can any of these people stoop any lower??  I bet DCF will take a closer look @ her now if they catch wind of all this new info.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Sorry...Hi Monkeys, I was so stunned I forgot my manners.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Magnolia on May 25, 2010, 04:24:42 PM
This guy just put Lindsy's whole life out there for everyone to see lol ....gee I wonder what Tommy will say when he finds out!


Tommy already knows.  Aunt Vicki told him in one of the phone recordings.
Somebody else....Justin or Jason....is keeping him informed about Lindsy too.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2010, 04:25:11 PM
Lindsy has a new man! Also, scroll down for the story!

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-448351
To take the words out of the Croslins mouth.  If Tommy sees those pics, especially the kissy, kissy one he is going to chit a fu_king cinder block.

Thanks for posting the link Izzy58!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 25, 2010, 04:28:27 PM
Lindsy has a new man! Also, scroll down for the story!

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-448351

OMG! The person must know her to have those pictures, correct?


YIKES......the article said she had phone sex with ::CowboySmiley:: and web cam sex with him as well ::lookie:: what in the world was she thinking....I am once again ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::
I was hoping I misread that, guess not  ::MonkeyEek::

LOL... ::CowboySmiley:: bought the lap top for LC guess she did get it for "nuttin"
maybe it was a trade off...ewww ewww I need  ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 25, 2010, 04:30:10 PM
Lindsy has a new man! Also, scroll down for the story!

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-448351
To take the words out of the Croslins mouth.  If Tommy sees those pics, especially the kissy, kissy one he is going to chit a fu_king cinder block.

Thanks for posting the link Izzy58!
::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::
i bet he chits a whole  cinder block building!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 25, 2010, 04:31:57 PM
This guy just put Lindsy's whole life out there for everyone to see lol ....gee I wonder what Tommy will say when he finds out!


Tommy already knows.  Aunt Vicki told him in one of the phone recordings.
Somebody else....Justin or Jason....is keeping him informed about Lindsy too.

I recall that but I don't recall TC having much reaction.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Magnolia on May 25, 2010, 04:35:11 PM
This guy just put Lindsy's whole life out there for everyone to see lol ....gee I wonder what Tommy will say when he finds out!


Tommy already knows.  Aunt Vicki told him in one of the phone recordings.
Somebody else....Justin or Jason....is keeping him informed about Lindsy too.


He went to squalling and then they had to have the psychiatric nurse practioner visit him
later that night.  Guess he was chitting that brick.

I recall that but I don't recall TC having much reaction.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 25, 2010, 04:35:17 PM


All joking aside.....what is she thinking....not of her children if she lets men live with her.

And I pray she is not stupid enough to leave her children unattended. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Magnolia on May 25, 2010, 04:36:23 PM
This guy just put Lindsy's whole life out there for everyone to see lol ....gee I wonder what Tommy will say when he finds out!


Tommy already knows.  Aunt Vicki told him in one of the phone recordings.
Somebody else....Justin or Jason....is keeping him informed about Lindsy too.


He went to squalling and then they had to have the psychiatric nurse practioner visit him
later that night.  Guess he was chitting that brick.

I recall that but I don't recall TC having much reaction.


Sorry, I didn't mean to invade your box.

He went to squalling and then they had to have the psychiatric nurse practioner visit him
later that night.  Guess he was chitting that brick.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 25, 2010, 04:43:39 PM
Lindsy has a new man! Also, scroll down for the story!

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-448351
To take the words out of the Croslins mouth.  If Tommy sees those pics, especially the kissy, kissy one he is going to chit a fu_king cinder block.

Thanks for posting the link Izzy58!

LMAO! That's hilarious ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 25, 2010, 04:45:58 PM
This guy just put Lindsy's whole life out there for everyone to see lol ....gee I wonder what Tommy will say when he finds out!


Tommy already knows.  Aunt Vicki told him in one of the phone recordings.
Somebody else....Justin or Jason....is keeping him informed about Lindsy too.


He went to squalling and then they had to have the psychiatric nurse practioner visit him
later that night.  Guess he was chitting that brick.

I recall that but I don't recall TC having much reaction.


Sorry, I didn't mean to invade your box.

He went to squalling and then they had to have the psychiatric nurse practioner visit him
later that night.  Guess he was chitting that brick.

I do recall her telling TC she wanted to go to the beach without the kids...looks like she did just that from the pics....wonder if she got that new swimsuit she wanted. ::piggy::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 25, 2010, 04:50:47 PM


All joking aside.....what is she thinking....not of her children if she lets men live with her.

And I pray she is not stupid enough to leave her children unattended. ::MonkeyMad::
I totally agree  ::MonkeyNoNo::  And putting a show on for Lenny  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 25, 2010, 04:51:36 PM
This guy just put Lindsy's whole life out there for everyone to see lol ....gee I wonder what Tommy will say when he finds out!


Tommy already knows.  Aunt Vicki told him in one of the phone recordings.
Somebody else....Justin or Jason....is keeping him informed about Lindsy too.


He went to squalling and then they had to have the psychiatric nurse practioner visit him
later that night.  Guess he was chitting that brick.

I recall that but I don't recall TC having much reaction.


Sorry, I didn't mean to invade your box.

He went to squalling and then they had to have the psychiatric nurse practioner visit him
later that night.  Guess he was chitting that brick.
::MonkeyEek:: I guess so


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 25, 2010, 04:56:11 PM
I was just thinking as I read that "article."

Maybe Lindsy was "the nurse" that Great Grandma Sykes came over to the house with when she "delivered the laundry."



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on May 25, 2010, 05:15:45 PM
I was just thinking as I read that "article."

Maybe Lindsy was "the nurse" that Great Grandma Sykes came over to the house with when she "delivered the laundry."



I wouldn't be surprised if it was!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 25, 2010, 05:15:54 PM
I was just thinking as I read that "article."

Maybe Lindsy was "the nurse" that Great Grandma Sykes came over to the house with when she "delivered the laundry."



could be Brandi...she said she was in school then...wonder what time her classes were?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Anna on May 25, 2010, 05:26:01 PM
OK, I posted long ago that I thought she had a new "love interest" but I was thinking a very quiet discreet affair, something perhaps after the children were long asleep and totally in private.

What was I thinking!  Should have known better because after all, she has taken that Croslin last name.  THey would never do anything in a discreet manner because they don't know how.

But this is typically over the top behavior even if only one third true. 

Those poor children of hers, neither parent worth a damn.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: AZSunny on May 25, 2010, 05:34:27 PM
OK, I posted long ago that I thought she had a new "love interest" but I was thinking a very quiet discreet affair, something perhaps after the children were long asleep and totally in private.

What was I thinking!  Should have known better because after all, she has taken that Croslin last name.  THey would never do anything in a discreet manner because they don't know how.

But this is typically over the top behavior even if only one third true. 

Those poor children of hers, neither parent worth a damn.

Anna, I don't think we have found anyone in this group of families that is worth a damn.  This is the most bizarre group of under functioning individuals that I have every heard of.  How this will ever be solved is almost beyond imagination.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 25, 2010, 05:38:23 PM
OK, I posted long ago that I thought she had a new "love interest" but I was thinking a very quiet discreet affair, something perhaps after the children were long asleep and totally in private.

What was I thinking!  Should have known better because after all, she has taken that Croslin last name.  THey would never do anything in a discreet manner because they don't know how.

But this is typically over the top behavior even if only one third true. 

Those poor children of hers, neither parent worth a damn.

Anna, I don't think we have found anyone in this group of families that is worth a damn.  This is the most bizarre group of under functioning individuals that I have every heard of.  How this will ever be solved is almost beyond imagination.


I think all of them are enjoying the attention...all self centered....we should be hearing from Lindsy's dad soon..in one of the tapes she tells TC that he is coming back to FL. so I feel sure the circus will be growing. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2010, 05:51:17 PM
I was just thinking as I read that "article."

Maybe Lindsy was "the nurse" that Great Grandma Sykes came over to the house with when she "delivered the laundry."

Was not Lindsy suppose to be in class at that time?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2010, 05:56:26 PM
OK, I posted long ago that I thought she had a new "love interest" but I was thinking a very quiet discreet affair, something perhaps after the children were long asleep and totally in private.

What was I thinking!  Should have known better because after all, she has taken that Croslin last name.  THey would never do anything in a discreet manner because they don't know how.

But this is typically over the top behavior even if only one third true. 

Those poor children of hers, neither parent worth a damn.

Lyndsy Gone Wild, yall!   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 25, 2010, 05:58:20 PM
I was just thinking as I read that "article."

Maybe Lindsy was "the nurse" that Great Grandma Sykes came over to the house with when she "delivered the laundry."

Was not Lindsy suppose to be in class at that time?

Yes, depending on what story you want to believe. LOL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 25, 2010, 06:02:14 PM
OK, I posted long ago that I thought she had a new "love interest" but I was thinking a very quiet discreet affair, something perhaps after the children were long asleep and totally in private.

What was I thinking!  Should have known better because after all, she has taken that Croslin last name.  THey would never do anything in a discreet manner because they don't know how.

But this is typically over the top behavior even if only one third true. 

Those poor children of hers, neither parent worth a damn.

Lyndsy Gone Wild, yall!   ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Shan1628 on May 25, 2010, 06:05:39 PM


All joking aside.....what is she thinking....not of her children if she lets men live with her.

And I pray she is not stupid enough to leave her children unattended. ::MonkeyMad::

I never got a 'good vibe' about this girl.  Something is just not right about her. 

I am currently going to school to become an LPN.  I gotta say, she makes all LPNs look like a few fries short of a happy meal. It's disgusting.  The amount of work, mentally and physically that go into the schooling is unbelievable and I can't understand for the life of me how she was able to get through it.   ::MonkeyEek::

Seeing these tapes with Hank Sr. and his kids is just downright disturbing.  Yeah, he was a crappy father in raising them but I really think that he is trying to do better now.  Remember, YOU become the type of person that you want to be.  Can't blame everything that his kids have done wrong on him.  There is a time when you gotta stand up and realize what you are doing is NOT right.  The way they are living is NOT right.  They ALL had the choice to break the cycle but again, it was their choice.

There were other methods for these children (Misty and Tommy) to learn the good about life...school, tv, other kids and mothers in their neighborhood, etc.  I know Misty didn't attend school long but she went long enough to learn that there are certain things you do in life and certain things you don't do.  Heck, when I was in 6th grade I had goals and expectations.  I'm quite sure that she understood what was right and wrong in her daily life. She chose to be the person she became.  They all chose, so "breaking the cycle" can be or could have been broken at anytime if just one of them would've stood up and said, "hey, I'm not gonna be this person anymore...I wanna make something of my life."  Unfortunately, they didn't.  Unfortunately, a 5 year old paid with her life for it too.  ::MonkeyNoNo::  It just isn't right.

I am currently at the point where NONE of this case makes any sense.  New information gets released and I just have more and more questions.  I pray that HaLeigh gets justice and I hope it's soon.  Each day that passes though, really makes me doubt....

Thanks for letting me rant, monkeys and everything I've rambled on about is MOO! 

Have a blessed evening!
 
 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 25, 2010, 06:18:33 PM
Very interesting to me, the theory that some on other boards have... that perhaps TN is the mastermind of all, that all this seeming 'cover-up' is everyone covering for her, that she is in this up to her eyeballs. 

When the odd things about TN are listed, one after another, it becomes rather overwhemingly possible that she knows everything, perhaps was even the one to blame for Haleigh's death.  Perhaps not the one responsible, but the main one leading a cover-up for her death.  And at the very least, perhaps was the one who has kept everything from falling apart for all this time, until it reached the point that she had no further control.  (the trafficking charges).

Think about all that we've read from and about TN, and when the list goes around the corner and 5 miles down the road, you may begin to get a picture of what I'm talking about. 

There's too many things to remember off the top of my head.  Here's just a few things from what I've read here and elsewhere online.  Maybe we could start our own thread on all the different things we've learned, and some of the things we are wondering, just about TN? 

~TN knew that Oxys have a bitter taste.  From what I understand about Oxys, the only time it tastes bitter is when the coating is removed in order to get a faster high.  Soooooo... how does TN know about this? 

~ A side note... Did anyone else realize that Oxys can be crushed or whatever and used in a nebulizer?  Haleigh used a nebulizer.  Did someone else use hers, didn't clean it out, and perhaps Haleigh OD'd when she used it again? 

~ TN had been in a car accident, was in pain and off work.  Was she taking pain pills?  Did she have a prescrip for Oxys?  Did Haleigh perhaps get ahold of one of HER pain pills? 

~ TN said that 'she sent' AS over to the MH that night, yet didn't volunteer that info up until about 2 weeks later.  And still didn't mention, at that time, the family member who came along with AS, who just by chance, happens to be a nurse.  Was something wrong with Haleigh?  Had she 'fallen asleep' and couldn't be awakened, fell into a coma, was she having some kind of physical reaction to having somehow been given (or had taken) something that was causing her great distress?  Was the family member who is a nurse brought over to help care for Haleigh?  Is that what the 8:30p (or so) fight on the phone with Ron was about?  Perhaps them telling him that they'd take care of things, and for him to stay at work and act as if all was well???  (wouldn't you just lovvvvvvve to see the phone records for everyone for that night??  whose phone pinged where....) 

~ Was the blanket that 'they took' actually something used by.. perhaps TN/AS and/or another family member.. rather than the guys that we've been thinking did that?  Wrapped in a blanket, Haleigh's body 'could have' been placed in the back of a little red truck, just as easily as in a blue van.  Just saying....

~ Where were the 'other family members' that night, between the hours of 9p and 4a?  I'm talking about TN, AS, Hope, Crystal Cummings (Ron's sister), and all the various aunts/uncles/cousins??  Do they have alibis?  We've heard that TN was busy.  Have we heard what she was busy doing?  Could any of them besides the main players have been the ones burying Haleigh, before/while the MH was being cleaned up and 911 was then called? 

~ Could Misty actually be telling the truth, that she was asleep (ie passed out), or so dang 'out of it' that she didn't know what went on that night?  Is it possible that Misty has been set up to be the 'fall guy', while others in Ron's family took care of cleaning things up and creating a script for everyone to follow?  Then 'telling' Misty what her part in all this would be, what to say, what to do....... or else?  Misty, being so dang 'out of it' having no clear memory of anything at all, goes along with it, perhaps not realizing that she's been thrown under the bus?  Is that why she is so dang 'fuzzy' about everything?  Her inconsistencies being the different things she can remember, as well as what others have said and/or told her?  And Ron, perhaps threatening her with his ever-present gun, to go along with what she is told?  Not to say that Misty is totally innocent in all this... Just saying that 'maybe' she is not as 'guilty' as she seems.  Things 'could have' been set up for her to be the guilty one, taken advantage of, perhaps, because she was so 'out of it' already and likely wouldn't remember.  What if??????? 

~ TN got to the MH in a fast hurry that night, brought that 8x10 glossy pic of Haleigh with her, and just happened to wear her LE jacket, altho she hadn't worked for them in some time.  She 'could have' been somewhere other than one of her homes (like 60 miles away or so) that night, but if so, would she 'just happened to have' a huge pic of Haleigh with her?  Did she perhaps show up with that 8x10 pic in order to help give the impression that Haleigh had been abducted?  Why else come with pic in hand? 

~ Speaking of TN's various homes, why did she report living at the one that was so far away, yet it was found that she actually lived much closer?  Why so mysterious about where she actually lives?  What is so important about these various homes, that TN seems to feel a need to be so mysterious?   

~ It was reported by someone in the area that 'a red truck' was seen parked that night near the railroad tracks.  TN drives/drove a red truck.  Is that how she got there so fast?  Had already been at the MH, left before LE showed up, told Ron to call her, parked a little way from the MH, so she could 'arrive' there just after LE did? 

~ Could everyone be covering for something that happened to Haleigh, which involved TN?  Would Ron work so dang hard at this, covering for his mother... all the while we've been thinking TN has been covering for him? 

I got lots more, just on TN, that has been said her and elsewhere online... am sure others can add to this list.  But for the sake of length, in this thread, I'll end it here for now. 


Man-oh-man....that nebulizer...how easy it would be for someone to use it and forget to clean it out.....just saying...



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 25, 2010, 06:19:37 PM


All joking aside.....what is she thinking....not of her children if she lets men live with her.

And I pray she is not stupid enough to leave her children unattended. ::MonkeyMad::

I never got a 'good vibe' about this girl.  Something is just not right about her. 

I am currently going to school to become an LPN.  I gotta say, she makes all LPNs look like a few fries short of a happy meal. It's disgusting.  The amount of work, mentally and physically that go into the schooling is unbelievable and I can't understand for the life of me how she was able to get through it.   ::MonkeyEek::

Seeing these tapes with Hank Sr. and his kids is just downright disturbing.  Yeah, he was a crappy father in raising them but I really think that he is trying to do better now.  Remember, YOU become the type of person that you want to be.  Can't blame everything that his kids have done wrong on him.  There is a time when you gotta stand up and realize what you are doing is NOT right.  The way they are living is NOT right.  They ALL had the choice to break the cycle but again, it was their choice.

There were other methods for these children (Misty and Tommy) to learn the good about life...school, tv, other kids and mothers in their neighborhood, etc.  I know Misty didn't attend school long but she went long enough to learn that there are certain things you do in life and certain things you don't do.  Heck, when I was in 6th grade I had goals and expectations.  I'm quite sure that she understood what was right and wrong in her daily life. She chose to be the person she became.  They all chose, so "breaking the cycle" can be or could have been broken at anytime if just one of them would've stood up and said, "hey, I'm not gonna be this person anymore...I wanna make something of my life."  Unfortunately, they didn't.  Unfortunately, a 5 year old paid with her life for it too.  ::MonkeyNoNo::  It just isn't right.

I am currently at the point where NONE of this case makes any sense.  New information gets released and I just have more and more questions.  I pray that HaLeigh gets justice and I hope it's soon.  Each day that passes though, really makes me doubt....

Thanks for letting me rant, monkeys and everything I've rambled on about is MOO! 

Have a blessed evening!
 
 ::MonkeyBike::


I agree with all you posted...I think if they got no media attention for a while we may found out more...I think they love every minute of it ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 25, 2010, 06:19:47 PM
Well stated, Shan1628!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2010, 06:41:23 PM
Haleigh Cummings – DVD 5

Posted on May 25th, 2010
by Simon Barrett in Society and Culture, crime


DVD five contains a single conversation between Tommy Croslin and his wife Lindsay Croslin.

This jail tape was recorded in the latter part of April.

Of all of the people involved in the Haleigh Cummings case I had held Lindsay Croslin in some esteem, she seemed to be the one member in Dysfunction Junction that had more than one synapse firing.

After this tape I am re-thinking my stance.

In what has to be one of the funniest and most bizarre exchanges I have ever heard, Tommy and Lindsay get into a discussion about ‘family photographs’. Oh this has nothing to do with weddings or other family get togethers,  this is about who has the best jail photo!

There are some more serious aspects to this conversation, there are mentions about ‘a friend’, who might that be? The context is about money, specifically in buying a car. Who might this friend be? I can’t see that it would be the ‘Big Hatted’ bounty hunter from California. I suspect that he has had enough automotive adventures with Hank.

Is this tape important? Probably not, but it does give further insights into the melange that the Croslin’s, Cummings, and Sheffield’s have created.

Tommy Croslin and Lindsay Croslin tape  http://www.bloggernews.net/indepth/Haleigh/may21/dvd5/tomy%20dvd3%20only%20clip%20lindsay.mp4

Some of this tape was mentioned on Sunday, you can listen to the entire program here http://www.blogtalkradio.com/simon-barrett/2010/05/23/haleigh-cummings-caylee-anthony .

Simon and Jan Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/124612


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Blonde on May 25, 2010, 06:42:45 PM
Lindsy has a new man! Also, scroll down for the story!

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-448351
To take the words out of the Croslins mouth.  If Tommy sees those pics, especially the kissy, kissy one he is going to chit a fu_king cinder block.

Thanks for posting the link Izzy58!

LMAO! That's hilarious ::MonkeyLaugh::

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Haleigh%20Cummings/untitled.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on May 25, 2010, 07:09:31 PM


All joking aside.....what is she thinking....not of her children if she lets men live with her.

And I pray she is not stupid enough to leave her children unattended. ::MonkeyMad::
I totally agree  ::MonkeyNoNo::  And putting a show on for Lenny  ::MonkeyShocked::
I read where this is a "supposedly" a false site...............who knows anymore, and frankly if it isn't, nothing shocks me anymore........well, I should say if anyone actually told the truth, THAT would shock me ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on May 25, 2010, 07:12:10 PM


All joking aside.....what is she thinking....not of her children if she lets men live with her.

And I pray she is not stupid enough to leave her children unattended. ::MonkeyMad::
I totally agree  ::MonkeyNoNo::  And putting a show on for Lenny  ::MonkeyShocked::
I read where this is a "supposedly" a false site...............who knows anymore, and frankly if it isn't, nothing shocks me anymore........well, I should say if anyone actually told the truth, THAT would shock me ::MonkeyJnBox::

Sorry, I meant to add this:


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on May 25, 2010, 07:15:35 PM
Speaking of Tommy crap&in a brick a block, I almost did ! Well, plus what that person said.
I can beleive it, she stayed with Tommy and put her kids in danger letting him drive the kids to school drugged up with pills in the car. She is as bad as him.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on May 25, 2010, 07:33:46 PM


All joking aside.....what is she thinking....not of her children if she lets men live with her.

And I pray she is not stupid enough to leave her children unattended. ::MonkeyMad::
I totally agree  ::MonkeyNoNo::  And putting a show on for Lenny  ::MonkeyShocked::
I read where this is a "supposedly" a false site...............who knows anymore, and frankly if it isn't, nothing shocks me anymore........well, I should say if anyone actually told the truth, THAT would shock me ::MonkeyJnBox::

Sorry, I meant to add this:

Were there other comments posted? They must have removed them because I only see one and isn't this one. Well whether the site is fake or not,  those pictures sure look incriminating!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 25, 2010, 07:36:28 PM
Lindsy has a new man! Also, scroll down for the story!

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-448351

OMG! The person must know her to have those pictures, correct?


YIKES......the article said she had phone sex with ::CowboySmiley:: and web cam sex with him as well ::lookie:: what in the world was she thinking....I am once again ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

In one of the tapes Tommy was told Lindsy had another man by Granny Hollars and he didn't believe it. DvD Tape 10

Well Lindsy should be worried about getting a job and taking care of the children and not jumping in the fire so fast. To me this would further hurt the children as they need comfort in this time. Lindsy needs to grow and and stop being depended on men.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on May 25, 2010, 07:39:53 PM


All joking aside.....what is she thinking....not of her children if she lets men live with her.

And I pray she is not stupid enough to leave her children unattended. ::MonkeyMad::
I totally agree  ::MonkeyNoNo::  And putting a show on for Lenny  ::MonkeyShocked::
I read where this is a "supposedly" a false site...............who knows anymore, and frankly if it isn't, nothing shocks me anymore........well, I should say if anyone actually told the truth, THAT would shock me ::MonkeyJnBox::

Sorry, I meant to add this:

Were there other comments posted? They must have removed them because I only see one and isn't this one. Well whether the site is fake or not,  those pictures sure look incriminating!

There were, but I copied this from CNN ireport


Welcome to iReport, where people take part in the news with CNN. Your voice, together with other iReporters, helps shape how and what CNN covers everyday.

So you know: iReport is the way people like you report the news. The stories in this section are not edited, fact-checked or screened before they post. Only ones marked 'CNN iReport' have been vetted by CNN.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on May 25, 2010, 07:47:24 PM
 ::MonkeyEek::

OK, I was waiting until I was home to read the article on CNN iReport, but it's gone now............WTF????? Where did it go ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 25, 2010, 07:50:41 PM
So the article about Lindsy is fake, but the pictures aren't, unless they are photo shopped, but it didn't look that way  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 25, 2010, 07:51:34 PM
::MonkeyEek::

OK, I was waiting until I was home to read the article on CNN iReport, but it's gone now............WTF????? Where did it go ::MonkeyBike::
It is gone  ::MonkeyEek:: but the pictures are there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 25, 2010, 08:00:29 PM
::MonkeyEek::

OK, I was waiting until I was home to read the article on CNN iReport, but it's gone now............WTF????? Where did it go ::MonkeyBike::
It is gone  ::MonkeyEek:: but the pictures are there.

I email myself the pictures. let me see if the article is there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 25, 2010, 08:09:24 PM
::MonkeyEek::

OK, I was waiting until I was home to read the article on CNN iReport, but it's gone now............WTF????? Where did it go ::MonkeyBike::
It is gone  ::MonkeyEek:: but the pictures are there.

I email myself the pictures. let me see if the article is there.

I click on the link and this is what I got..

This content is currently unavailable.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: NCSunny on May 25, 2010, 08:11:55 PM
iReport —

I am writing to give some information on Lindsay Croslin for those who don’t know who she really is. She is not the innocent girl she portrays nor is she a victim in any way shape or form. She claimed to stand by her husband no matter what and swore by his innocence. She said she would wait for him forever and loved him although she was dating the second he went to jail not to mention when he was home and they were together. Once she got a taste of freedom she immediately started seeing multiple men, talking to ex boyfriends whom she cheated on Tommy with in the past and is now talking to a new lover Keith Simpson. This not so bright 23 year old mother of 3 openly tells people stories of her unprotected sex with all of these men stating “I have my tubes tied so I can’t get pregnant” Should someone inform her she can contract and spread STDS? Is this not the girl who recently got her LPN license? I would be worried if she was going to care for one of my loved ones! Her filing for divorce came from her new attitude once dating Keith whom is over 10 years older than her and she takes care of better than her children. She admitted she was dating him because she did not want to be alone. She stated she would go back to Tommy once he got out and filed for divorce by her families request. In fact she recently put the divorce on hold. If her grandparents found out she would loose her free apartment and brand new car all provided to her by them. She parties hard, leaving her three young children unsupervised frequently, many people witnessed her children left alone or roaming outside filthy and uncared for. She was given her place to live by her grandparents where she has no bills or responsibility. Her grandfather bought her the brand new car which she lets her new boyfriend drive like it is his. This new car she uses to pick up her boyfriend daily to bring him to and from work and anywhere else he wants to go when he is not driving it. This new boyfriend of hers she has not even known a couple months and she already has him living in her home on a daily basis and his company has been grounds for calls to the police recently. The people she associates with are scum at its finest and she is ok with having that in her home and around her children at any hour of the night. There are videos and video footage of them together and on several occasions. She admits to using Xanax more than once while drinking, and brags how she got her DCF case to go away so easily. How they didn’t take her children is beyond anyone seeing as she has been spotted in the same clothes for days at a time and is always sleeping while her kids wander outdoors. Many people have witnessed this in the town homes where she resides. She is a manipulative liar who will use anyone to get where she wants to be. She uses the state of Florida for almost 1000 dollars in food stamps a month and gives them away to her new boyfriend and anyone else as well. Why is the state helping someone who is not helping themselves? She tells everyone who she is as if she is a movie star and she is proud of it. I met her once and she willingly told me her life story as well as anyone else who comes into contact with her. I met someone whom she allowed to move in with her who also offered up various information about what goes on in her home and her life. Her children have been affected by her new relationship and the fact that this man who has his own home is always sleeping in her house by her request. Her son is seeing a therapist now by request of the school due to him acting out very badly lately. She puts her own needs before her children. She was recently hired by the Department of Health in Bunnell with no experience and used her sob stories as a way in the door. She needs to have her DCF case reopened and she needs serious help. How she has 3 children and a brand new man in her home all night in a 2 bedroom makes no sense. She brags on her Myspace how she has only 200 dollars in bills a month and she cant wait to blow her 1100.00 checks every two weeks. I hope she reported this new job to the state of Florida seeing as she is receiving assistance. It is all very disturbing. The Croslins which she bashes publicly she is also willing to leave her children with in exchange for the money Hank and Lisa “owe” her. She still remains in contact with all of them although she denies it to most. Her phone records show otherwise. She admits that she had phone sex as well as provocative web cam conversations with bounty hunter Leonard Padilla on the lap top that was bought by him for her. She had these conversations in exchange for money for bills she claimed she had to pay, yet she has no bills and lives off of her grandparents and the state. The only bills she has is a water and electric bill and she is willing to have her 3 children herself her large pit bull (which she has been known to abuse and neglect) and her boyfriend crammed into a small 2 bedroom to avoid having to pay bills although she has a job and a brand new car. She is using her grandparents to get all that she has. She brags about the fact that Art Harris as well as many other reporters call her constantly. She is trailer trash at its finest. There are several more pictures of her with her new boyfriend as well as other men she has been partying with. Where are her children? I saw these photos online on some ones Myspace page who she appears to associate with. This girl needs to be investigated in a major way. Her and Chelsea know more than they let on and they speak multiple times daily. As I said her phone records would prove a lot. I don’t understand how she was overlooked all along.

Her stories change like the wind blows. She changed her story about what went on at her home the night Haliegh disappeared not to mention she still stood by Tommy the night he had his grandmother call her to have her call the attorney because he had to “tell him something he should have said a long time ago“. She also was running around town after being questioned in April telling everyone they were looking for a yellow rope although this took over a week to air on television. Her van which she got rid of she “lended” out the night of the disappearance. Something just seems out of place with this girl and her stories. After all she is a Croslin and even the ones that are by marriage all seem to be just as shady as the ones who are Croslins by blood.

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-448351


*bump*


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 25, 2010, 08:12:07 PM
::MonkeyEek::

OK, I was waiting until I was home to read the article on CNN iReport, but it's gone now............WTF????? Where did it go ::MonkeyBike::
It is gone  ::MonkeyEek:: but the pictures are there.

I email myself the pictures. let me see if the article is there.

I click on the link and this is what I got..

This content is currently unavailable.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on May 25, 2010, 08:12:22 PM
I posted the article on here a couple of pages back but didn't save the pictures.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on May 25, 2010, 08:12:31 PM
Don't miss the Dana Pretzer show tonight at 9pm ET:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/Pretzer052510.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 25, 2010, 08:12:39 PM
::MonkeyEek::

OK, I was waiting until I was home to read the article on CNN iReport, but it's gone now............WTF????? Where did it go ::MonkeyBike::
It is gone  ::MonkeyEek:: but the pictures are there.

I email myself the pictures. let me see if the article is there.

I click on the link and this is what I got..

This content is currently unavailable.
Wonder what happened?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: luvmyboys on May 25, 2010, 08:13:08 PM
does anyone know what is on ng tonight?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: loca on May 25, 2010, 08:19:12 PM
does anyone know what is on ng tonight?
[/quot


The topic is about mike carr whom now is posing as a female. He is stuck on finding girls that look like jon bonet ramsey. etc etc


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 25, 2010, 08:20:25 PM
iReport —

I am writing to give some information on Lindsay Croslin for those who don’t know who she really is. She is not the innocent girl she portrays nor is she a victim in any way shape or form. She claimed to stand by her husband no matter what and swore by his innocence. She said she would wait for him forever and loved him although she was dating the second he went to jail not to mention when he was home and they were together. Once she got a taste of freedom she immediately started seeing multiple men, talking to ex boyfriends whom she cheated on Tommy with in the past and is now talking to a new lover Keith Simpson. This not so bright 23 year old mother of 3 openly tells people stories of her unprotected sex with all of these men stating “I have my tubes tied so I can’t get pregnant” Should someone inform her she can contract and spread STDS? Is this not the girl who recently got her LPN license? I would be worried if she was going to care for one of my loved ones! Her filing for divorce came from her new attitude once dating Keith whom is over 10 years older than her and she takes care of better than her children. She admitted she was dating him because she did not want to be alone. She stated she would go back to Tommy once he got out and filed for divorce by her families request. In fact she recently put the divorce on hold. If her grandparents found out she would loose her free apartment and brand new car all provided to her by them. She parties hard, leaving her three young children unsupervised frequently, many people witnessed her children left alone or roaming outside filthy and uncared for. She was given her place to live by her grandparents where she has no bills or responsibility. Her grandfather bought her the brand new car which she lets her new boyfriend drive like it is his. This new car she uses to pick up her boyfriend daily to bring him to and from work and anywhere else he wants to go when he is not driving it. This new boyfriend of hers she has not even known a couple months and she already has him living in her home on a daily basis and his company has been grounds for calls to the police recently. The people she associates with are scum at its finest and she is ok with having that in her home and around her children at any hour of the night. There are videos and video footage of them together and on several occasions. She admits to using Xanax more than once while drinking, and brags how she got her DCF case to go away so easily. How they didn’t take her children is beyond anyone seeing as she has been spotted in the same clothes for days at a time and is always sleeping while her kids wander outdoors. Many people have witnessed this in the town homes where she resides. She is a manipulative liar who will use anyone to get where she wants to be. She uses the state of Florida for almost 1000 dollars in food stamps a month and gives them away to her new boyfriend and anyone else as well. Why is the state helping someone who is not helping themselves? She tells everyone who she is as if she is a movie star and she is proud of it. I met her once and she willingly told me her life story as well as anyone else who comes into contact with her. I met someone whom she allowed to move in with her who also offered up various information about what goes on in her home and her life. Her children have been affected by her new relationship and the fact that this man who has his own home is always sleeping in her house by her request. Her son is seeing a therapist now by request of the school due to him acting out very badly lately. She puts her own needs before her children. She was recently hired by the Department of Health in Bunnell with no experience and used her sob stories as a way in the door. She needs to have her DCF case reopened and she needs serious help. How she has 3 children and a brand new man in her home all night in a 2 bedroom makes no sense. She brags on her Myspace how she has only 200 dollars in bills a month and she cant wait to blow her 1100.00 checks every two weeks. I hope she reported this new job to the state of Florida seeing as she is receiving assistance. It is all very disturbing. The Croslins which she bashes publicly she is also willing to leave her children with in exchange for the money Hank and Lisa “owe” her. She still remains in contact with all of them although she denies it to most. Her phone records show otherwise. She admits that she had phone sex as well as provocative web cam conversations with bounty hunter Leonard Padilla on the lap top that was bought by him for her. She had these conversations in exchange for money for bills she claimed she had to pay, yet she has no bills and lives off of her grandparents and the state. The only bills she has is a water and electric bill and she is willing to have her 3 children herself her large pit bull (which she has been known to abuse and neglect) and her boyfriend crammed into a small 2 bedroom to avoid having to pay bills although she has a job and a brand new car. She is using her grandparents to get all that she has. She brags about the fact that Art Harris as well as many other reporters call her constantly. She is trailer trash at its finest. There are several more pictures of her with her new boyfriend as well as other men she has been partying with. Where are her children? I saw these photos online on some ones Myspace page who she appears to associate with. This girl needs to be investigated in a major way. Her and Chelsea know more than they let on and they speak multiple times daily. As I said her phone records would prove a lot. I don’t understand how she was overlooked all along.

Her stories change like the wind blows. She changed her story about what went on at her home the night Haliegh disappeared not to mention she still stood by Tommy the night he had his grandmother call her to have her call the attorney because he had to “tell him something he should have said a long time ago“. She also was running around town after being questioned in April telling everyone they were looking for a yellow rope although this took over a week to air on television. Her van which she got rid of she “lended” out the night of the disappearance. Something just seems out of place with this girl and her stories. After all she is a Croslin and even the ones that are by marriage all seem to be just as shady as the ones who are Croslins by blood.

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-448351


*bump*

In DVD tape 1 .. Hanks states that if Linsdy gets the job he doesn't know how long the car will last and doesn't know how she will get to and back from work... Hmmm


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 25, 2010, 08:21:55 PM
iReport —

I am writing to give some information on Lindsay Croslin for those who don’t know who she really is. She is not the innocent girl she portrays nor is she a victim in any way shape or form. She claimed to stand by her husband no matter what and swore by his innocence. She said she would wait for him forever and loved him although she was dating the second he went to jail not to mention when he was home and they were together....


Ooooh weeeee!!!! Lawdy, Miss Daisy... I need some aloe vera after that burn.

Someone gots the oochie coochie hippy dippy curse in for ol` Lindsy!

That was rather abrasive. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 25, 2010, 08:25:52 PM
Well ya know, all Padilla has it that Macaw.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: NCSunny on May 25, 2010, 08:30:18 PM
Here are the pix I saved - (http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss334/sunny_ccc/LC.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on May 25, 2010, 08:36:19 PM
She sure looks like she is living it up to me! How soon they forget!  Oh BTW, what is the tattoo she got on her her wrist? I saw it on one of the tapes.  It doesn't say Tommy does it?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 25, 2010, 08:38:28 PM
Thank You NCSunny.. I was just going to post anything like that comes up hurry up and copy it... Thanks Again


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on May 25, 2010, 08:40:26 PM
Well if Lindsy didn't want those pics made public she's SOL because the story is all over Twitter and everwhere else lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 25, 2010, 08:41:42 PM
Well if Lindsy didn't want those pics made public she's SOL because the story is all over Twitter and everwhere else lol

Thanks Issy for posting the pics and the article..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 25, 2010, 08:42:34 PM
Well if Lindsy didn't want those pics made public she's SOL because the story is all over Twitter and everwhere else lol
Yes, and Tommy looks like history to me  ::MonkeyTongue:: she is out and about having a good time.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: NCSunny on May 25, 2010, 08:42:46 PM
She sure looks like she is living it up to me! How soon they forget!  Oh BTW, what is the tattoo she got on her her wrist? I saw it on one of the tapes.  It doesn't say Tommy does it?

In some of the pix, it really doesn't  look like Lindsy, but in others it is definitely her.

I have no idea about the tat,  but it did look like a cursive name to me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on May 25, 2010, 08:43:29 PM
iReport —

I am writing to give some information on Lindsay Croslin for those who don’t know who she really is. She is not the innocent girl she portrays nor is she a victim in any way shape or form. She claimed to stand by her husband no matter what and swore by his innocence. She said she would wait for him forever and loved him although she was dating the second he went to jail not to mention when he was home and they were together. Once she got a taste of freedom she immediately started seeing multiple men, talking to ex boyfriends whom she cheated on Tommy with in the past and is now talking to a new lover Keith Simpson. This not so bright 23 year old mother of 3 openly tells people stories of her unprotected sex with all of these men stating “I have my tubes tied so I can’t get pregnant” Should someone inform her she can contract and spread STDS? Is this not the girl who recently got her LPN license? I would be worried if she was going to care for one of my loved ones! Her filing for divorce came from her new attitude once dating Keith whom is over 10 years older than her and she takes care of better than her children. She admitted she was dating him because she did not want to be alone. She stated she would go back to Tommy once he got out and filed for divorce by her families request. In fact she recently put the divorce on hold. If her grandparents found out she would loose her free apartment and brand new car all provided to her by them. She parties hard, leaving her three young children unsupervised frequently, many people witnessed her children left alone or roaming outside filthy and uncared for. She was given her place to live by her grandparents where she has no bills or responsibility. Her grandfather bought her the brand new car which she lets her new boyfriend drive like it is his. This new car she uses to pick up her boyfriend daily to bring him to and from work and anywhere else he wants to go when he is not driving it. This new boyfriend of hers she has not even known a couple months and she already has him living in her home on a daily basis and his company has been grounds for calls to the police recently. The people she associates with are scum at its finest and she is ok with having that in her home and around her children at any hour of the night. There are videos and video footage of them together and on several occasions. She admits to using Xanax more than once while drinking, and brags how she got her DCF case to go away so easily. How they didn’t take her children is beyond anyone seeing as she has been spotted in the same clothes for days at a time and is always sleeping while her kids wander outdoors. Many people have witnessed this in the town homes where she resides. She is a manipulative liar who will use anyone to get where she wants to be. She uses the state of Florida for almost 1000 dollars in food stamps a month and gives them away to her new boyfriend and anyone else as well. Why is the state helping someone who is not helping themselves? She tells everyone who she is as if she is a movie star and she is proud of it. I met her once and she willingly told me her life story as well as anyone else who comes into contact with her. I met someone whom she allowed to move in with her who also offered up various information about what goes on in her home and her life. Her children have been affected by her new relationship and the fact that this man who has his own home is always sleeping in her house by her request. Her son is seeing a therapist now by request of the school due to him acting out very badly lately. She puts her own needs before her children. She was recently hired by the Department of Health in Bunnell with no experience and used her sob stories as a way in the door. She needs to have her DCF case reopened and she needs serious help. How she has 3 children and a brand new man in her home all night in a 2 bedroom makes no sense. She brags on her Myspace how she has only 200 dollars in bills a month and she cant wait to blow her 1100.00 checks every two weeks. I hope she reported this new job to the state of Florida seeing as she is receiving assistance. It is all very disturbing. The Croslins which she bashes publicly she is also willing to leave her children with in exchange for the money Hank and Lisa “owe” her. She still remains in contact with all of them although she denies it to most. Her phone records show otherwise. She admits that she had phone sex as well as provocative web cam conversations with bounty hunter Leonard Padilla on the lap top that was bought by him for her. She had these conversations in exchange for money for bills she claimed she had to pay, yet she has no bills and lives off of her grandparents and the state. The only bills she has is a water and electric bill and she is willing to have her 3 children herself her large pit bull (which she has been known to abuse and neglect) and her boyfriend crammed into a small 2 bedroom to avoid having to pay bills although she has a job and a brand new car. She is using her grandparents to get all that she has. She brags about the fact that Art Harris as well as many other reporters call her constantly. She is trailer trash at its finest. There are several more pictures of her with her new boyfriend as well as other men she has been partying with. Where are her children? I saw these photos online on some ones Myspace page who she appears to associate with. This girl needs to be investigated in a major way. Her and Chelsea know more than they let on and they speak multiple times daily. As I said her phone records would prove a lot. I don’t understand how she was overlooked all along.

Her stories change like the wind blows. She changed her story about what went on at her home the night Haliegh disappeared not to mention she still stood by Tommy the night he had his grandmother call her to have her call the attorney because he had to “tell him something he should have said a long time ago“. She also was running around town after being questioned in April telling everyone they were looking for a yellow rope although this took over a week to air on television. Her van which she got rid of she “lended” out the night of the disappearance. Something just seems out of place with this girl and her stories. After all she is a Croslin and even the ones that are by marriage all seem to be just as shady as the ones who are Croslins by blood.

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-448351


*bump*

In DVD tape 1 .. Hanks states that if Linsdy gets the job he doesn't know how long the car will last and doesn't know how she will get to and back from work... Hmmm

I think this BBM amount of food stamps isn't correct, I did a worksheet (worst case) that showed a mom with no job, no child support, 600 a month in rent, 100 in property taxed and 100 in homeowner's insurance with 100 a week in childcare, ZERO asset and in that case the max allowance for food stamps was 526.00, so I don't for one second believe she gets 1000.00 a month in food stamps.............I though that amount sounded hinky and we know (at least I thought) she paid no rent, and my property taxes are only 200 a month for a 420,000 home and my insurance a month is high, 3000.00 per yr, but that's because I have to have flood, and hurricane insurance and live 130 ft from the Gulf, also she has an asset in her car which counts against you, so I doubt she gets even close to 500.00 per month ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 25, 2010, 08:46:11 PM
does anyone know what is on ng tonight?
[/quot


The topic is about mike carr whom now is posing as a female. He is stuck on finding girls that look like jon bonet ramsey. etc etc
John Mark Karr, the man who claimed to have killed JonBenet Ramsey has legally changed his name to Alexis Reich and is reportedly preparing to undergo gender reassignment surgery. A former student of Karr's, 19-year-old Samantha Spiegel, alleges he's doing so in order to get closer to little girls, a charge confirmed by e-mails she produced at a court hearing in San Francisco last month.  ::MonkeyShocked::  Now I know the world is ending.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 25, 2010, 08:46:11 PM
..Not to bring up a touchy subject but guess her new piercing has come in handy now that she seems to be the life of da partaay!!    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: NCSunny on May 25, 2010, 08:47:20 PM
Thank You NCSunny.. I was just going to post anything like that comes up hurry up and copy it... Thanks Again

YW...I always try to get things quickly because if I don't, they go *poof*  ::piggy::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 25, 2010, 08:49:20 PM
IM the brand new spanking car could be some one elses name..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: NCSunny on May 25, 2010, 08:52:10 PM
..Not to bring up a touchy subject but guess her new piercing has come in handy now that she seems to be the life of da partaay!!    ::MonkeyCool::


 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on May 25, 2010, 08:58:32 PM
Don't miss the Dana Pretzer show tonight at 9pm ET:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/Pretzer052510.jpg)


Click on the link below - show starts now!

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/radio.m3u


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 25, 2010, 09:00:21 PM
does anyone know what is on ng tonight?
[/quot


The topic is about mike carr whom now is posing as a female. He is stuck on finding girls that look like jon bonet ramsey. etc etc
John Mark Karr, the man who claimed to have killed JonBenet Ramsey has legally changed his name to Alexis Reich and is reportedly preparing to undergo gender reassignment surgery. A former student of Karr's, 19-year-old Samantha Spiegel, alleges he's doing so in order to get closer to little girls, a charge confirmed by e-mails she produced at a court hearing in San Francisco last month.  ::MonkeyShocked::  Now I know the world is ending.

Mam o man.  what kind of respectable doctor would help that freak out?!  They always act like they give ppl. psychological tests and stuff before sex change operations, geez I'm with you on the world must be ending sentiment.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on May 25, 2010, 09:01:05 PM


In DVD tape 1 .. Hanks states that if Linsdy gets the job he doesn't know how long the car will last and doesn't know how she will get to and back from work... Hmmm
Quote

I think this BBM amount of food stamps isn't correct, I did a worksheet (worst case) that showed a mom with no job, no child support, 600 a month in rent, 100 in property taxed and 100 in homeowner's insurance with 100 a week in childcare, ZERO asset and in that case the max allowance for food stamps was 526.00, so I don't for one second believe she gets 1000.00 a month in food stamps.............I though that amount sounded hinky and we know (at least I thought) she paid no rent, and my property taxes are only 200 a month for a 420,000 home and my insurance a month is high, 3000.00 per yr, but that's because I have to have flood, and hurricane insurance and live 130 ft from the Gulf, also she has an asset in her car which counts against you, so I doubt she gets even close to 500.00 per month ::MonkeyTongue::

Here in Calif, about 15 yrs ago we were struggling trying to raise 3 kids and only my husband working. My husband's daughter from his previous marriage at that time had a couple of kids, married and on welfare. I used to get so mad because, with her aid and food stamps they were bringing in well over what we were, and they still couldn't manage to pay their bills! His daughter would call all of the time for money because her PG&E was shut off, they had no food, diapers, lost their food stamps.....yeah, we know what happened to the food stamps! And this would go on all of the time. She couldn't pay her bills but yet she was able to afford to have her nails done, buy new outfits, go to the movies, out to eat, etc....things we couldn't even afford to do!  I finally put my foot down and told me husband it had to stop. I am not going to take food from my children's mouth especially when we are barely making it ourselves just because his daughter would rather blow her money then pay her bills. He finally stopped giving her money but she just turned around and got it from her mother and grandfather. The point I'm trying to make is these people have it made on welfare while the working people are struggling!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on May 25, 2010, 09:01:22 PM
IM the brand new spanking car could be some one elses name..

Very true, but I never added in one penny in assets, or income.......so, I think that 1000 per month is not even remotely close. If so, I might consider quitting my job and adopting a few kids, welfare and food stamps  ::MonkeyTongue:: J/K!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on May 25, 2010, 09:02:57 PM
Lindsy has a new man! Also, scroll down for the story!

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-448351
To take the words out of the Croslins mouth.  If Tommy sees those pics, especially the kissy, kissy one he is going to chit a fu_king cinder block.

Thanks for posting the link Izzy58!

LMAO! That's hilarious ::MonkeyLaugh::

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Haleigh%20Cummings/untitled.jpg)


 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyEek:: Now the entire article and pic's are gone from the link...WTF???????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on May 25, 2010, 09:07:19 PM


In DVD tape 1 .. Hanks states that if Linsdy gets the job he doesn't know how long the car will last and doesn't know how she will get to and back from work... Hmmm
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I think this BBM amount of food stamps isn't correct, I did a worksheet (worst case) that showed a mom with no job, no child support, 600 a month in rent, 100 in property taxed and 100 in homeowner's insurance with 100 a week in childcare, ZERO asset and in that case the max allowance for food stamps was 526.00, so I don't for one second believe she gets 1000.00 a month in food stamps.............I though that amount sounded hinky and we know (at least I thought) she paid no rent, and my property taxes are only 200 a month for a 420,000 home and my insurance a month is high, 3000.00 per yr, but that's because I have to have flood, and hurricane insurance and live 130 ft from the Gulf, also she has an asset in her car which counts against you, so I doubt she gets even close to 500.00 per month ::MonkeyTongue::

Here in Calif, about 15 yrs ago we were struggling trying to raise 3 kids and only my husband working. My husband's daughter from his previous marriage at that time had a couple of kids, married and on welfare. I used to get so mad because, with her aid and food stamps they were bringing in well over what we were, and they still couldn't manage to pay their bills! His daughter would call all of the time for money because her PG&E was shut off, they had no food, diapers, lost their food stamps.....yeah, we know what happened to the food stamps! And this would go on all of the time. She couldn't pay her bills but yet she was able to afford to have her nails done, buy new outfits, go to the movies, out to eat, etc....things we couldn't even afford to do!  I finally put my foot down and told me husband it had to stop. I am not going to take food from my children's mouth especially when we are barely making it ourselves just because his daughter would rather blow her money then pay her bills. He finally stopped giving her money but she just turned around and got it from her mother and grandfather. The point I'm trying to make is these people have it made on welfare while the working people are struggling!

Oh I totally agree with that, it pizzes me off to no end, well infuriates me because I bust me rear and so many others sit back and mooch of the government, in fact I just watched the funniest video on youtube today that adresses that issue, it was Michael Savage + Jo from Florida, if you want to laugh so hard you almost pee, watch that one........it's a classic no doubt ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 25, 2010, 09:10:43 PM
I haven`t been listening to many of the recent tapes lately... because these people have crossed my eyeballs, and I am afraid of permanent damage.

I did however listen to the Tommy Granny tape #10 - This is where with 1 minute left on the phone call, Flo tells Tommy Lindsy found a new man and he fires back with SAY WHA? (dead silence for what seemed like an eternity)

I laughed until I fell out of my drawers... I`m a bit sick like that. ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 25, 2010, 09:18:41 PM
iReport —

I am writing to give some information on Lindsay Croslin for those who don’t know who she really is. She is not the innocent girl she portrays nor is she a victim in any way shape or form. She claimed to stand by her husband no matter what and swore by his innocence. She said she would wait for him forever and loved him although she was dating the second he went to jail not to mention when he was home and they were together. Once she got a taste of freedom she immediately started seeing multiple men, talking to ex boyfriends whom she cheated on Tommy with in the past and is now talking to a new lover Keith Simpson. This not so bright 23 year old mother of 3 openly tells people stories of her unprotected sex with all of these men stating “I have my tubes tied so I can’t get pregnant” Should someone inform her she can contract and spread STDS? Is this not the girl who recently got her LPN license? I would be worried if she was going to care for one of my loved ones! Her filing for divorce came from her new attitude once dating Keith whom is over 10 years older than her and she takes care of better than her children. She admitted she was dating him because she did not want to be alone. She stated she would go back to Tommy once he got out and filed for divorce by her families request. In fact she recently put the divorce on hold. If her grandparents found out she would loose her free apartment and brand new car all provided to her by them. She parties hard, leaving her three young children unsupervised frequently, many people witnessed her children left alone or roaming outside filthy and uncared for. She was given her place to live by her grandparents where she has no bills or responsibility. Her grandfather bought her the brand new car which she lets her new boyfriend drive like it is his. This new car she uses to pick up her boyfriend daily to bring him to and from work and anywhere else he wants to go when he is not driving it. This new boyfriend of hers she has not even known a couple months and she already has him living in her home on a daily basis and his company has been grounds for calls to the police recently. The people she associates with are scum at its finest and she is ok with having that in her home and around her children at any hour of the night. There are videos and video footage of them together and on several occasions. She admits to using Xanax more than once while drinking, and brags how she got her DCF case to go away so easily. How they didn’t take her children is beyond anyone seeing as she has been spotted in the same clothes for days at a time and is always sleeping while her kids wander outdoors. Many people have witnessed this in the town homes where she resides. She is a manipulative liar who will use anyone to get where she wants to be. She uses the state of Florida for almost 1000 dollars in food stamps a month and gives them away to her new boyfriend and anyone else as well. Why is the state helping someone who is not helping themselves? She tells everyone who she is as if she is a movie star and she is proud of it. I met her once and she willingly told me her life story as well as anyone else who comes into contact with her. I met someone whom she allowed to move in with her who also offered up various information about what goes on in her home and her life. Her children have been affected by her new relationship and the fact that this man who has his own home is always sleeping in her house by her request. Her son is seeing a therapist now by request of the school due to him acting out very badly lately. She puts her own needs before her children. She was recently hired by the Department of Health in Bunnell with no experience and used her sob stories as a way in the door. She needs to have her DCF case reopened and she needs serious help. How she has 3 children and a brand new man in her home all night in a 2 bedroom makes no sense. She brags on her Myspace how she has only 200 dollars in bills a month and she cant wait to blow her 1100.00 checks every two weeks. I hope she reported this new job to the state of Florida seeing as she is receiving assistance. It is all very disturbing. The Croslins which she bashes publicly she is also willing to leave her children with in exchange for the money Hank and Lisa “owe” her. She still remains in contact with all of them although she denies it to most. Her phone records show otherwise. She admits that she had phone sex as well as provocative web cam conversations with bounty hunter Leonard Padilla on the lap top that was bought by him for her. She had these conversations in exchange for money for bills she claimed she had to pay, yet she has no bills and lives off of her grandparents and the state. The only bills she has is a water and electric bill and she is willing to have her 3 children herself her large pit bull (which she has been known to abuse and neglect) and her boyfriend crammed into a small 2 bedroom to avoid having to pay bills although she has a job and a brand new car. She is using her grandparents to get all that she has. She brags about the fact that Art Harris as well as many other reporters call her constantly. She is trailer trash at its finest. There are several more pictures of her with her new boyfriend as well as other men she has been partying with. Where are her children? I saw these photos online on some ones Myspace page who she appears to associate with. This girl needs to be investigated in a major way. Her and Chelsea know more than they let on and they speak multiple times daily. As I said her phone records would prove a lot. I don’t understand how she was overlooked all along.

Her stories change like the wind blows. She changed her story about what went on at her home the night Haliegh disappeared not to mention she still stood by Tommy the night he had his grandmother call her to have her call the attorney because he had to “tell him something he should have said a long time ago“. She also was running around town after being questioned in April telling everyone they were looking for a yellow rope although this took over a week to air on television. Her van which she got rid of she “lended” out the night of the disappearance. Something just seems out of place with this girl and her stories. After all she is a Croslin and even the ones that are by marriage all seem to be just as shady as the ones who are Croslins by blood.

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-448351


*bump*

I saved all 10 photos and put them together:

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 25, 2010, 09:20:19 PM
Well we have Lindsy with her new men while Tommy sitting in PC and wanting to talk to Lindsy-Then we have Ron in jail with Misty's old flame WBG- Now all we need next is to have Misty's attorney drop her as his client.. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 25, 2010, 09:22:23 PM
Oh look, she has on pretty little flippers. It`s a Pillbilly welfare mermaid. She is da Princess!!! ::MonkeyTongue:: ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 25, 2010, 09:23:19 PM
Oh look, she has on pretty little flippers. It`s a Pillbilly welfare mermaid. She is da Princess!!! ::MonkeyTongue:: ::monkeywine2::
::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on May 25, 2010, 09:23:55 PM

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Oh I totally agree with that, it pizzes me off to no end, well infuriates me because I bust me rear and so many others sit back and mooch of the government, in fact I just watched the funniest video on youtube today that adresses that issue, it was Michael Savage + Jo from Florida, if you want to laugh so hard you almost pee, watch that one........it's a classic no doubt ::MonkeyTongue::

Oh and she is divorced and just recently married her old fling who is currently in jail.. and after being off welfare for maybe 2 years out of her life she is now back on it again!!!  She is 37 years old and needs to grow up and start being responsible for herself, but you know I just don't see that happening. I'll tell you one thing though her my husband isn't very happy with her and after all these years he has wizened up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on May 25, 2010, 09:25:18 PM
Oh look, she has on pretty little flippers. It`s a Pillbilly welfare mermaid. She is da Princess!!! ::MonkeyTongue:: ::monkeywine2::
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::  D@mn, now I have to clean my screen again Carpe  ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 25, 2010, 09:29:08 PM
Oh look, she has on pretty little flippers. It`s a Pillbilly welfare mermaid. She is da Princess!!! ::MonkeyTongue:: ::monkeywine2::

Along with the swimsuit she told TC she had to fix the underwire on the suit.
Now she did warn TC that she was going to the beach without the kids and lay out and "fry" but looks more like she was "shaking and baking"


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on May 25, 2010, 09:34:23 PM
 Is it me...or does Lindsy bathing suit top look weird in that picture?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 25, 2010, 09:37:12 PM
Is it me...or does Lindsy bathing suit top look weird in that picture?

I just posted...she told TC her bathing suit top had a broken under wire ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 25, 2010, 09:39:49 PM
Is it me...or does Lindsy bathing suit top look weird in that picture?

well ... I don't think a bikini compliments her figure.

Some people should wear one-piece swimsuits. Just sayin`.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2010, 09:41:13 PM
Misty & Hank Part3  Something about White Boy Greg
http://www.bloggernews.net/indepth/Haleigh/may21/dvd2/VTS_02_1_mpeg4.mp4


Misty:  The state attorney that I have in Putnam County.

Hank:  Yeah!

Misty:  Shes over here too.

Hank:  Humph!

Misty:  So thats I guess. I mean, I don’t know what that means.   Donna went to court earlier today.

Hank:  Well, what did she get?

Misty:  Ah, she got, she didn’t even get to see the judge. She got continued I guess. Oh, she coming back, talking all kind of chit. Coming to the door, I’m not even trying to pay attention to her, Shes like, oh yeah, they’re not giving us any kind of deal ah, I was like you don’t know, cause I’m not even talking to her. Shes like they are not giving us any kind of deal, we have to go to trial, twenty five years I was like whatever man,  don’t even talk, I’m not even talking to her. Shes just trying to start stuff. I thought you were coming at six tonight.

Hank:  No, I just got lucky and got some gas money.

Misty:  Yep, I got court at 1:30 on the eight of June, of June. Another pretrial, I don’t know whats gonna happen though.

Hank:  Your lawyer ain’t telling yah nutun?

Misty:  Ah, I mean hes talking to me, yeah, but, I don’t know whats gonna happen. I know uh just he wants to talk to yall again in person.

Hank:  Well, he called us and told us he would be getting in touch with us.

Misty:  Yeah, I need you guys to call um and ask him about that thing in April.  Ask him what day it is.  That would be perfect. I want that.

Hank:  (sighs) Sit up!

Misty:  (sounding annoyed) Let me get a book, k. cause I can’t see yah.

Hank:  Peggy, that Peggy Cone came to seen us yesterday.

Misty:  Did she?

Hank:  Yeah!

Misty:  What did she want?

Hank:  Something about white boy Greg.

Misty:  Oh, whad they say?

Hank:  They just, somebody is going around saying that that stuff happened,  that supposedly happened at a party and they know its true…

Misty:  They’re fu_king insane.

Hank:  and they supposed to put her body in that uh, uh, that pond. I don’t know how true it is.

Misty:  They’re +++++++ dad. They’re something else. They’re fu_king +++++++. If it was white boy then they need to figure out and see what he knows because I have no idea.  That’s a fu_king lie. I don’t give a fu_k. There was no pardee. I did not go to no fu_king pardee.

Hank:  (sighs) I don’t know Misty. Things are probably get even more tougher than this Missy. Your mom is probably gonna be in jail for ninety days.

Misty:  Oh God

Hank:  I know baby, well theres a pretty good chance, theres a pretty good chance  that she will.

Misty:  Tommy’s money is in his account.

Hank:  Alisha said she did not mean, she didn’t mean to hang up on yah, but she was at the beach she lost signal.

Misty:  Oh! Whose that back there?

Hank:  Back where?

Misty:  Is there somebody, a lady back there?

Hank:  Theres a couple of ladies over there.

Misty:  Ah, yeah, I talked to her but Tommy’s money is in there. And there was a juvenile that went to court with me and hes over here by Tommy and I told him to tell Tommy that his money should be in his account.  Well talk to me tonight so I can call yall.

Hank:  Does he have any more minutes?

Misty:  Yeah!  I have two more phone calls, but I need you to tell him to make sure his battery is charged.

Hank:  Chelsea told me to tell yah, that ah, that ah, don’t call til later, because Timmys at work and shes got the phone.

Misty:  Yeah we gone call after six

Hank: K. Its tough for us out there right now. We lucky to find a phone and spend gas money to come here for one week and then the following week its, I’m broke. Cause it takes every two weeks I only get paid.  I mean you can’t be getting upset Misty, because you’re gonna have to learn to deal with it. I mean it hurts me too not to be able to come to see yah. I wanna see you, I want yah home

Misty:  (whining) Me too!

Hank:  I said if you know anything that can help yourself, help yourself man. Don’t be fu_cking holding nothing back.

Misty:  That’s the thing I don’t.

Hank:  I know, but somebody knows, somebody knows something.

Misty:  I know, but its not me.

Hank:  I believe yah!

Misty:  You think if I knew I would be satting here, in this place like this. 

Hank: I know, it doesn’t makes no sense baby!  I just want you to do something for, to get out man.

Misty:  I wish you knew I had court, you could have been over there.  You were here in town. . I just got back. They didn’t tell you that you had to wait or anything?

Hank:  No, I got here at 2, and they told me I had to wait til 2:45, come back. What time you go to court.

Misty:  Ah, it was like 1:30. Yeah it was like 1:30. I didn’t know I had court. I was out  for lunch and after lunch  they said Misty are you ready and I said ready for what? She said for court and I said for real. She said yeah, and I was like yeah, hold on. And I was riding in the van, they had me in the van. The boys were in the back and I was in the front and theres that one boy in there talking. He was like yeah, Misty you’re doing good, don’t let them bring you down. You’re doing real good, just hang on. Hes from Putnam County, so he knows John Baaar-en   

Hank:  Whose that?

Misty:  Who you think John Barten is?

Hank:  I don’t know.

Misty:  Ah, John Barten is the boy in that trailer with the, that has Timmy’s dog.

Hank:  Oh yeah, snitch!

Misty:  Yeah!

Hank:  You can’t,  I’m not going over Tony’s house for nothing. I don’t like them people. I don’t want to nothing to do with them kind of people.

Misty:  Well dad, sometimes you know if it gets,  I knew that he would do it for me though..

Hank:  Hes full of chit. He wasn’t gonna do nothing for yah.

Misty:  How’d you get money?

Hank:  I got ten dollars don’t worry.  Hope I got enough gas to make it home on. It only give me a quarter of a tank. Gas is like almost three dollars a gallon. Friday as soon as I get my check I’ll get minutes on phone

Misty:  K

Hank:  But I got get some money for your mom for her probation,  cause I don’t want them violating her on that and giving her more time. I don’t know how I’m gonna make it by myself for 3 months anyways.

Misty:  I just don’t understand I think they are gonna add time

Hank:  I don’t know. I don’t know.

Misty:  She didn’t even do anything.

Hank:  Well, I don’t know. Your mom is gonna have to straighten her life out too. Maybe it will be good for her.

Misty:  Yeah, she don’t need to go to da jail, not in Putnam County.

Hank:  I don’t want her to go there but you know if she goes its not gonna kill her

Misty:  I know its not gonna kill her, but that place is not for her.  Not that place.

Hank:  Well she needs to wake up and smell the coffee. Straighten her life out, shes getting on my nerves, I’m telling yah, you just don’t even know.  All this chit is getting on my nerves . I’m sick of it. 

Misty:  Ask her, didn’t she get a new probation officer?
 
Hank:  Yeah, Mr. King

Misty:  Tell her she needs to ask him if she can come to my court date.

Hank:  She can’t leave the county right now.

Misty:  But will you please when you leave here call him, my lawyer so when I call tonight I’ll know.

Hank:  I’ll call but he won’t answer, but I’ll call  I probably can’t do it til I get home because I don’t got his number. I’ll call and leave it on his recording  that you said  her  court date is being changed if you would give me a call let me know what day it is.

Misty:  Cause I don’t know what day it is.

Hank:  Everybody elses is in May

Misty:  Yeah, but he said that, ah, April twenty something I think.

Hank:  I got a hearing myself to go to, its April 29th  on that restitution for that guy that ran me over. But hell he ain’t got no money, I ain’t…

Misty:  Is that the date that they’re sentencing people?

Hank:  No, I go 29th  for a, its for restitution

Misty:  Oh ok!

Hank:  I know hes gonna be on probation and hes gotta pay a certain amount of money a month. I’ll get some of it. I don’t know what I’ll get. Twenty five, one lady said it could be a hundred dollars a month, I mean whatever!   

Misty:  Its better than nothing.

Hank:  I hope more. I know, but I need more . Hell hes the one that cost me my job. Hes the one caused all this grief in my life, with not working.

Misty:  I know

Hank:  I would have still had my job if the sob crashed into me.

Misty:  I know

Hank:  He needs to be paying my rent,  and my probation chit.

Misty:  Ah man,

Hank:  I’m sure I’m gonna probably get twelve months probation.

Misty:  I was, I was so nervous today in court.  I was shaking, cause they said this judge is mean, but…

Hank:  They’re not mean, they’re just, they can only do what the law

Misty:  I know

Hank: you know requires. Its just, everybody knows that you are not a drug dealer and if it wasn’t for this HaLeigh case they probably wouldn’t be as hard on yah. But something got to give about HaLeigh. Haleighs gotta come home

Misty:  I know

Hank: Shes been gone too long. Her family needs closure, and hell we all need closure too. I mean people can think what they want, but I love that little girl just like they did. I mean, I thought the world of that little girl.

Misty:  Me too, me too! Did mom get her letter?

Hank:  Ah we ain’t got no letter today.  I don’t know bout today, she …
 
Misty: I haven’t got the card yet either.

Hank:  It’ll probably be there today or tomorrow.

Misty:  Tomorrow, cause the mail already come today.

Hank:  You need to watch what you are saying to your nanny and them guys.  They’re talking to Art Harris and you don’t, they guy don’t, none of um need to talk to that sob.

Misty:  I don’t tell nanny nothing though.

Hank:  Well, because shes talking to him and hes…

Misty:  I don’t talk about my case

Hank:  Hes befriending, trying to befriend her trying to get what he can Hes already got some bullchit out there on yah. Something about you and Donna and some other girls doing some stupid chit. Suppose to be some lesbian stuff, or some chit.

Misty:  Okay

Hank:  I swear something like, somebody called and told me that.  That Debbie lady called and told me that was on the internet. Art Harris is not, he lies, he says chit you know. 

Misty:  Oh yeah and its all true remember.

Hank:  Yeah, he calls it exclusive interviews , he ain’t had no exclusive interviews

Misty:  I know

Hank:  They don’t need to talk to um no more. You need to tell nanny you guys don’t need to talk to um no more. But they just wanna get on Nancy Grace or some chit

Misty: I don’t know what they’re doing I…
 
Hank:  Well I’m just telling yah!

Misty:  talked to her earlier , shes suppose to get minutes put on her phone today.

Hank:  Just telling you man, don’t be talking to that guy. All hes trying to do is cause you more grief.

Misty:  I know!

Hank:  That’s what those Peggy Cones guys are investigating now

Misty:  Well let um investigate it.  Let um, because I have nothing to do with it and I don’t know who did. If  I did they’d knew a long time ago and they can leave me alone. 

Hank:  That what you should of said all in the beginning instead of going saying that other crap. Now they don’t believe nothing you say.

Misty:  And I said that chit in the beginning dad, anyways and still didn’t believe me. Okay, I don’t know what my mind , I don’t know dad! I’m going crazy in this fu_king place

Hank:  I know, I’m gone go crazy out here.

Misty:  the whole time. I’m not come out of this pc chit. I’m gone be stuck in this one cell come out. She told me come out when nobody else is out but its barely anything… This is ridiculous. I don’t need this, I don’t need to be pc. They shouldn’t…

Hank:  Yeah you do.

Misty:  No I don’t . I wanna go work in the kitchen. I wanna be able ,  You know that’s crazy. I can’t do nothing

Hank:  I know!

Misty:  Nothing at all.

Hank:  Well if you get out in population, you be put in the hole anyway cause there’ll be people fighting yah. I guarantee it.

Misty:  Well theres, but they don’t have to put me in pc. Theres a block right across the hall that’s not protective, I mean , I don’t have to be pc cause they don’t want to put me over there in general population. They can put me in the work release one, so I can work at least, but I just want…   

Hank:  Yeah, I wish…

Misty:  I can’t wait til this is over and whatever they do with me just do it so I can just get out of this place cause I  don’t want to be in this jail no more. I hate this place.

Hank:  You ain’t gone like it no place you go Misty. Its all, jail is jail.

Misty:  I know I’m not gonna like it but its better than this. I’m not gonna be locked in a freaking protective custody

Hank:  Oh I know babe. I know its got to be fu_ked up.

Misty:  I sat here last night I had a dream about going to prison. I did have a dream about that. Ronald keeps coming to my head. Like  I go to sleep, I wake up in the middle of the night crying because of him. I don’t know, I’m just so tired of this. I barely slept last night. They took me off my medicine so, because I’m breaking out with something. I don’t know what it is. But they don’t, they won’t , no one even knows how I feel. No one has ever had to walk in my shoes. People, keeping me lock down like this is not what I need. 

Hank:  They don’t care what you need Misty, they’re trying to punish you, they don’t care.

Misty:  How about everybody else they are trying to punish. You know I’m no different from anybody else in this place. 

Hank:  They’re trying to get to you.

Misty:  Donna was on tv, so why is she in protective custody?

Hank:  Because she ain’t got, people don’t think that she had anything to do with

Misty:

 Hank:  Yeah but that ain’t why you are in protective custody. It ain’t gonna change 

Misty:  I know! Not til I leave this place.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mizjay on May 25, 2010, 09:41:41 PM
Is it me...or does Lindsy bathing suit top look weird in that picture?

well ... I don't think a bikini compliments her figure.

Some people should wear one-piece swimsuits. Just sayin`.
YEPPERS on that! ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: 4 Donks on May 25, 2010, 10:06:12 PM
I must say that I am shocked by the Lindsay pictures. I can't believe that anyone in the group actually has built in bookcases with real books....never saw it coming !!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Magnolia on May 25, 2010, 10:12:52 PM
I must say that I am shocked by the Lindsay pictures. I can't believe that anyone in the group actually has built in bookcases with real books....never saw it coming !!!

That was shocking to me too!   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 25, 2010, 10:19:28 PM
I must say that I am shocked by the Lindsay pictures. I can't believe that anyone in the group actually has built in bookcases with real books....never saw it coming !!!

It's a step up from Misty.

I think the only thing she does with a book is sit on it.

(So she is higher and can be seen by the person on the other side of the visitation booth at jail!)

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Such a sad group of individuals.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 25, 2010, 10:24:42 PM
Misty: No one has ever had to walk in my shoes.


What is this, like a card carrying guilty person`s slogan? Whine, whine, whine, whine



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2010, 10:30:33 PM
Misty: No one has ever had to walk in my shoes.


What is this, like a card carrying guilty person`s slogan? Whine, whine, whine, whine

Is it just me or does she continuously try to direct the conversation to any and everything else other than HaLeigh?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 25, 2010, 10:34:53 PM
I must say that I am shocked by the Lindsay pictures. I can't believe that anyone in the group actually has built in bookcases with real books....never saw it coming !!!

It's a step up from Misty.

I think the only thing she does with a book is sit on it.

(So she is higher and can be seen by the person on the other side of the visitation booth at jail!)

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Such a sad group of individuals.

Brandi
that was  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Its the saddest case  I have seen...I just hope Haleigh gets the justice she deserves.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Magnolia on May 25, 2010, 10:34:54 PM
Misty: No one has ever had to walk in my shoes.


What is this, like a card carrying guilty person`s slogan? Whine, whine, whine, whine

Is it just me or does she continuously try to direct the conversation to any and everything else other than HaLeigh?


It's not just you, Heart.  I have noticed that too.  And everytime Hank tells her that she needs to
tell the truth, she says...I know, Daddy... and then changes the subject.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 25, 2010, 10:37:08 PM
Misty: No one has ever had to walk in my shoes.


What is this, like a card carrying guilty person`s slogan? Whine, whine, whine, whine

Is it just me or does she continuously try to direct the conversation to any and everything else other than HaLeigh?

I am waiting MC to say Haleigh was just a dream.
Misty is me,me, person if I have ever seen one.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 25, 2010, 10:38:50 PM
Misty: No one has ever had to walk in my shoes.


What is this, like a card carrying guilty person`s slogan? Whine, whine, whine, whine

Is it just me or does she continuously try to direct the conversation to any and everything else other than HaLeigh?


It's not just you, Heart.  I have noticed that too.  And everytime Hank tells her that she needs to
tell the truth, she says...I know, Daddy... and then changes the subject.

I see it too, Heart. Here is where it jumped out the worst to me. She knows a lot more and she just needs to quit whining. Anybody who is funding her phone minutes needs to give it up. Let her crash and burn. They are just feeding the beast.

----
Hank: you know requires. Its just, everybody knows that you are not a drug dealer and if it wasn’t for this HaLeigh case they probably wouldn’t be as hard on yah. But something got to give about HaLeigh. Haleighs gotta come home

Misty:  I know

Hank: Shes been gone too long. Her family needs closure, and hell we all need closure too. I mean people can think what they want, but I love that little girl just like they did. I mean, I thought the world of that little girl.

Misty:  Me too, me too! Did mom get her letter?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2010, 10:40:43 PM
Misty: No one has ever had to walk in my shoes.


What is this, like a card carrying guilty person`s slogan? Whine, whine, whine, whine

Is it just me or does she continuously try to direct the conversation to any and everything else other than HaLeigh?


It's not just you, Heart.  I have noticed that too.  And everytime Hank tells her that she needs to
tell the truth, she says...I know, Daddy... and then changes the subject.
I wonder if she does that while being interrogated also.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2010, 10:44:12 PM
Misty: No one has ever had to walk in my shoes.


What is this, like a card carrying guilty person`s slogan? Whine, whine, whine, whine

Is it just me or does she continuously try to direct the conversation to any and everything else other than HaLeigh?


It's not just you, Heart.  I have noticed that too.  And everytime Hank tells her that she needs to
tell the truth, she says...I know, Daddy... and then changes the subject.

I see it too, Heart. Here is where it jumped out the worst to me. She knows a lot more and she just needs to quit whining. Anybody who is funding her phone minutes needs to give it up. Let her crash and burn. They are just feeding the beast.

----
Hank: you know requires. Its just, everybody knows that you are not a drug dealer and if it wasn’t for this HaLeigh case they probably wouldn’t be as hard on yah. But something got to give about HaLeigh. Haleighs gotta come home

Misty:  I know

Hank: Shes been gone too long. Her family needs closure, and hell we all need closure too. I mean people can think what they want, but I love that little girl just like they did. I mean, I thought the world of that little girl.

Misty:  Me too, me too! Did mom get her letter?

Yep, good one carpe!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 25, 2010, 10:53:41 PM
Misty: No one has ever had to walk in my shoes.


What is this, like a card carrying guilty person`s slogan? Whine, whine, whine, whine

Is it just me or does she continuously try to direct the conversation to any and everything else other than HaLeigh?


It's not just you, Heart.  I have noticed that too.  And everytime Hank tells her that she needs to
tell the truth, she says...I know, Daddy... and then changes the subject.

I see it too, Heart. Here is where it jumped out the worst to me. She knows a lot more and she just needs to quit whining. Anybody who is funding her phone minutes needs to give it up. Let her crash and burn. They are just feeding the beast.

----
Hank: you know requires. Its just, everybody knows that you are not a drug dealer and if it wasn’t for this HaLeigh case they probably wouldn’t be as hard on yah. But something got to give about HaLeigh. Haleighs gotta come home

Misty:  I know

Hank: Shes been gone too long. Her family needs closure, and hell we all need closure too. I mean people can think what they want, but I love that little girl just like they did. I mean, I thought the world of that little girl.

Misty:  Me too, me too! Did mom get her letter?

Yep, good one carpe!

I wonder who reads the mail to them?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 25, 2010, 10:54:50 PM
Another thing I find sad -

Hank Sr. is like one giant walking disposable phone card to Misty. As soon as the pre-paid minutes run out, Hank Sr. goes right back to be a big ol` fat F. - as Tommy recently called him. I find it sad he hasn`t the ability to see it.

example:

Misty:  Ah, she got, she didn’t even get to see the judge. She got continued I guess. Oh, she coming back, talking all kind of chit. Coming to the door, I’m not even trying to pay attention to her, Shes like, oh yeah, they’re not giving us any kind of deal ah, I was like you don’t know, cause I’m not even talking to her. Shes like they are not giving us any kind of deal, we have to go to trial, twenty five years I was like whatever man,  don’t even talk, I’m not even talking to her. Shes just trying to start stuff. I thought you were coming at six tonight.

Hank:  No, I just got lucky and got some gas money.

Misty:  Yep, I got court at 1:30 on the eight of June, of June. Another pretrial, I don’t know whats gonna happen though.

---

Hank, she is going to use you up like a disposable handi-wipe. She and Tommy are KILLING you. You still calling that love, brother? I do not.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 25, 2010, 11:20:34 PM
Well I just listen to the polograph of Misty.. Watch the monitor and see what answers come up on the screen... What do you see and afterward  think?



http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/082709_Polygraph_results_questioned_in_Haleigh_case




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 25, 2010, 11:31:08 PM
Here are the pix I saved - (http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss334/sunny_ccc/LC.jpg)


Wow, just wow! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 25, 2010, 11:33:50 PM
I haven`t been listening to many of the recent tapes lately... because these people have crossed my eyeballs, and I am afraid of permanent damage.

I did however listen to the Tommy Granny tape #10 - This is where with 1 minute left on the phone call, Flo tells Tommy Lindsy found a new man and he fires back with SAY WHA? (dead silence for what seemed like an eternity)

I laughed until I fell out of my drawers... I`m a bit sick like that. ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on May 25, 2010, 11:33:57 PM
I think these are some of the comments that were posted on that ireport about Lindsy


http://forums.radionewz.net/index.php?topic=98.0

[6:18pm Eastern]

 TrixieRose
12 minutes ago
Just some FYI Keith,don't feel bad,you're on a long list of casualities of all this.Don't feel lonely. Smiley
Someone used my nic for CNN,WTH. :O
I'm the only WinterRose,don't they know that? LOL
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TrixieRose
18 minutes ago
Shoot,I posted a link,but it won't post on info.People can be sued for defamation of character if they're lieing,they can be taken to court,just saying.As a matter of fact,LP would have no problem with that and has the money to do it. Smiley
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smghp
27 minutes ago
yes they are, facebook also.  I would give more info on them but i am not disgusting like them.
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TrixieRose
35 minutes ago
Too many are trying to suck money from the horror of a missing child,so sad.The two names mentioned are on myspace.
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smghp
35 minutes ago
I am keith in this trash.  At one point in time we all hanged out as friends.  Both of them had liked me and I NEVER did anything with none of them.  They are very jealous and nasty females.
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TrixieRose
43 minutes ago
Or they live in the neighborhood,but how would they get these pics if they don't know her?Oh wait a minute,are you the Keith in the article?
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TrixieRose
51 minutes ago
Maybe they're jealous and like the guy in the pics with Lindsy.Or one of them is an old girlfriend of his.
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TrixieRose
54 minutes ago
Are you saying the photos are lieing?They're recent photos.
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smghp
1 hour ago
The people invovled for posting this garbage names are Tasha Martinez and Lavel Trumpler. When you are trying to assassinate someone's character please look at your first. They are looking for some spotlight from Nancy Grace for maybe an interview or whatever.  My advice to anyone wanting there comments and for those comments to be taken seriously do a thorough background check  before you start talking to them, you will see what many people have seen when they have come in contact with them.
 
I am open for any and all questions regarding this post of lies and hate.
 
Keith Simpson
Less

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-448351


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 25, 2010, 11:35:04 PM
Oh look, she has on pretty little flippers. It`s a Pillbilly welfare mermaid. She is da Princess!!! ::MonkeyTongue:: ::monkeywine2::

She's got on a different outfit in most all of the pictures...she's been getting around a LOT!



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 25, 2010, 11:36:18 PM
Is it me...or does Lindsy bathing suit top look weird in that picture?

well ... I don't think a bikini compliments her figure.

Some people should wear one-piece swimsuits. Just sayin`.

10 - 4,  Miss Brandi  (cause we know you that an eye for art)   ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on May 25, 2010, 11:43:29 PM
hmmm wonder if this Lavel Trumpler posted the ireport....jealous maybe? Her buddy Tasha is on her friends list.

http://www.myspace.com/lavelc


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 25, 2010, 11:44:58 PM
Do we know yet if Hope Sykes has been transferred from the jail to the prison?



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: cw618 on May 26, 2010, 12:12:17 AM
LINDSY has her LICENSE, so does Croslin,Sara Elizabeth ?
 Page 1 of 1 / 3 Records
Provider List
License Name Profession City
PN5191070  CROSLIN,LINDSYKATE LICENSED PRACTI SATSUMA

TRTT66779  Croslin,SaraElizabeth TEMP RTT LAKELAND

CRT66779  Croslin,SaraElizabeth CRT LAKELAND
http://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/irm00praes/PRASLIST.ASP#theBottom

Do we know yet if Hope Sykes has been transferred from the jail to the prison?



yep
hope
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInmates/detail.asp?Bookmark=1&From=list&SessionID=537810968








Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 26, 2010, 12:13:49 AM
Do we know yet if Hope Sykes has been transferred from the jail to the prison?



She was transferred to prison the day after being sentenced, I believe.

I forget which one, I could look it up.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 26, 2010, 12:16:26 AM
Do we know yet if Hope Sykes has been transferred from the jail to the prison?



She was transferred to prison the day after being sentenced, I believe.

I forget which one, I could look it up.



Well, there ya go, one post above mine. Lowell Correctional Institute.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 26, 2010, 12:19:05 AM
Do we know yet if Hope Sykes has been transferred from the jail to the prison?



She was transferred to prison the day after being sentenced, I believe.

I forget which one, I could look it up.




Thanks you, both!




Well, there ya go, one post above mine. Lowell Correctional Institute.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: cw618 on May 26, 2010, 12:19:11 AM
i want to say thank you, for the info on the dvd and tapes
i just couldnt do it


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 26, 2010, 12:20:24 AM
Do we know yet if Hope Sykes has been transferred from the jail to the prison?



She was transferred to prison the day after being sentenced, I believe.

I forget which one, I could look it up.




Thanks you, both!




Well, there ya go, one post above mine. Lowell Correctional Institute.



Dang it!  Sorry to post incorrectly.

I can't wait until we get to hear the phone tapes where Misty and Tommy hear about Hope getting 15 years!



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: cw618 on May 26, 2010, 12:24:26 AM
Lowell Correctional Institute
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/facilities/region3/314.html



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 26, 2010, 11:18:12 AM
Misty: No one has ever had to walk in my shoes.


What is this, like a card carrying guilty person`s slogan? Whine, whine, whine, whine

Is it just me or does she continuously try to direct the conversation to any and everything else other than HaLeigh?


It's not just you, Heart.  I have noticed that too.  And everytime Hank tells her that she needs to
tell the truth, she says...I know, Daddy... and then changes the subject.

I see it too, Heart. Here is where it jumped out the worst to me. She knows a lot more and she just needs to quit whining. Anybody who is funding her phone minutes needs to give it up. Let her crash and burn. They are just feeding the beast.

----
Hank: you know requires. Its just, everybody knows that you are not a drug dealer and if it wasn’t for this HaLeigh case they probably wouldn’t be as hard on yah. But something got to give about HaLeigh. Haleighs gotta come home

Misty:  I know

Hank: Shes been gone too long. Her family needs closure, and hell we all need closure too. I mean people can think what they want, but I love that little girl just like they did. I mean, I thought the world of that little girl.

Misty:  Me too, me too! Did mom get her letter?
good one carpe!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 26, 2010, 11:41:57 AM
I think these are some of the comments that were posted on that ireport about Lindsy


http://forums.radionewz.net/index.php?topic=98.0

[6:18pm Eastern]

 TrixieRose
12 minutes ago
Just some FYI Keith,don't feel bad,you're on a long list of casualities of all this.Don't feel lonely. Smiley
Someone used my nic for CNN,WTH. :O
I'm the only WinterRose,don't they know that? LOL
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TrixieRose
18 minutes ago
Shoot,I posted a link,but it won't post on info.People can be sued for defamation of character if they're lieing,they can be taken to court,just saying.As a matter of fact,LP would have no problem with that and has the money to do it. Smiley
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smghp
27 minutes ago
yes they are, facebook also.  I would give more info on them but i am not disgusting like them.
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TrixieRose
35 minutes ago
Too many are trying to suck money from the horror of a missing child,so sad.The two names mentioned are on myspace.
Report violation
smghp
35 minutes ago
I am keith in this trash.  At one point in time we all hanged out as friends.  Both of them had liked me and I NEVER did anything with none of them.  They are very jealous and nasty females.
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TrixieRose
43 minutes ago
Or they live in the neighborhood,but how would they get these pics if they don't know her?Oh wait a minute,are you the Keith in the article?
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TrixieRose
51 minutes ago
Maybe they're jealous and like the guy in the pics with Lindsy.Or one of them is an old girlfriend of his.
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TrixieRose
54 minutes ago
Are you saying the photos are lieing?They're recent photos.
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smghp
1 hour ago
The people invovled for posting this garbage names are Tasha Martinez and Lavel Trumpler. When you are trying to assassinate someone's character please look at your first. They are looking for some spotlight from Nancy Grace for maybe an interview or whatever.  My advice to anyone wanting there comments and for those comments to be taken seriously do a thorough background check  before you start talking to them, you will see what many people have seen when they have come in contact with them.
 
I am open for any and all questions regarding this post of lies and hate.
 
Keith Simpson
Less

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-448351
I wonder if this is one and the same Lavel Trumpler

(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/147/m_6950842e2d9d4a2fb8862caa259fea81.jpg)

#
LaVel Trumpler
Whats your point?
# 23 / Female
# PALM COAST, Florida, US
# Last Login: 5/18/2010
http://www.myspace.com/lavelc

and Tasha Martinez

(http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/115/m_20e4c78838ac4a0b8137d22c9066728a.jpg)
Tasha
Female
28 years old
Palm Coast, Florida
United States
Last Login: 5/26/2010
http://www.myspace.com/TashaMartinez25


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Miss Lacey on May 26, 2010, 11:51:51 AM
Is it me...or does Lindsy bathing suit top look weird in that picture?

well ... I don't think a bikini compliments her figure.

Some people should wear one-piece swimsuits. Just sayin`.

10 - 4,  Miss Brandi  (cause we know you that an eye for art)   ::MonkeyHaHa::



And there are some who should never put on a swimsuit at all.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on May 26, 2010, 11:54:47 AM
Lavel removed her Myspace page! Tasha did post on Lavel's page something about someone on the beach and remarks about the person and a tan. I'm pretty sure she was talking about Lindsy, wish I would of save the posts!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 26, 2010, 12:03:33 PM
Lavel removed her Myspace page! Tasha did post on Lavel's page something about someone on the beach and remarks about the person and a tan. I'm pretty sure she was talking about Lindsy, wish I would of save the posts!
Tasha left Lavel the following messages:

May 14 2010 3:08 PM
Yeah we always get good beach  pics of them :)
and
She was working on her tan hahahaha


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 26, 2010, 12:09:51 PM
FYI

As far as that ireport, I am getting the message that it is no longer available.
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-448351

HollysGmom posted:

BTW the article has been pulled...no longer available.  Also DCFS are probably making a visit.
http://forums.radionewz.net/index.php?topic=98.msg5372#msg5372


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Magnolia on May 26, 2010, 03:35:43 PM


Hank Croslin and family in Putnam: an unscripted reality show

By Cindy Swirko
Staff writer
Gainsville Sun

Published: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 2:17 p.m.
Last Modified: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 2:17 p.m.
( page 1 of 4 )

PALATKA - Hank Croslin never dreamed he would find himself in the situation he is in now -- broke, living in a shelter, two of his children in jail, he and his wife on probation.


Related Links:
Ronald Cummings likely to agree to plea deal
Lawyer says Tommy Croslin is cooperating in Haleigh case
Haleigh case update: No human remains in St. Johns
Haleigh case now called a homicide
Another day of searching turns up no sign of Haleigh
More Stories
"It's like something you see on TV, not in your own life," Croslin said. "It's a scary life."

But Hank Croslin's life is on TV. In fact, TV and other media have helped make Croslin and his family celebrities in an unscripted reality show -- one that involves a missing 5-year-old girl, illicit drug sales, family feuds and other travails, played out on national television, in Internet blogs, newspapers and television news.

"It's strange," Croslin said on a hot afternoon outside a church-run shelter in Palatka that for about five months has been home to him and his wife, Lisa.

Read more:

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100526/NEWS/100529593?p=1&tc=pg


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 26, 2010, 03:47:23 PM


Hank Croslin and family in Putnam: an unscripted reality show

By Cindy Swirko
Staff writer
Gainsville Sun

Published: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 2:17 p.m.
Last Modified: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 2:17 p.m.
( page 1 of 4 )

PALATKA - Hank Croslin never dreamed he would find himself in the situation he is in now -- broke, living in a shelter, two of his children in jail, he and his wife on probation.


Related Links:
Ronald Cummings likely to agree to plea deal
Lawyer says Tommy Croslin is cooperating in Haleigh case
Haleigh case update: No human remains in St. Johns
Haleigh case now called a homicide
Another day of searching turns up no sign of Haleigh
More Stories
"It's like something you see on TV, not in your own life," Croslin said. "It's a scary life."

But Hank Croslin's life is on TV. In fact, TV and other media have helped make Croslin and his family celebrities in an unscripted reality show -- one that involves a missing 5-year-old girl, illicit drug sales, family feuds and other travails, played out on national television, in Internet blogs, newspapers and television news.

"It's strange," Croslin said on a hot afternoon outside a church-run shelter in Palatka that for about five months has been home to him and his wife, Lisa.

Read more:

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100526/NEWS/100529593?p=1&tc=pg

Thank for the article....I would not be surprised at all if they were offered a TV show...people seem to love to watch the Croslins on line.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Love2Read on May 26, 2010, 04:40:58 PM
Oh look, she has on pretty little flippers. It`s a Pillbilly welfare mermaid. She is da Princess!!! ::MonkeyTongue:: ::monkeywine2::

 ::MonkeyJnBox::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Love2Read on May 26, 2010, 04:43:25 PM


Hank Croslin and family in Putnam: an unscripted reality show

By Cindy Swirko
Staff writer
Gainsville Sun

Published: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 2:17 p.m.
Last Modified: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 2:17 p.m.
( page 1 of 4 )

PALATKA - Hank Croslin never dreamed he would find himself in the situation he is in now -- broke, living in a shelter, two of his children in jail, he and his wife on probation.


Related Links:
Ronald Cummings likely to agree to plea deal
Lawyer says Tommy Croslin is cooperating in Haleigh case
Haleigh case update: No human remains in St. Johns
Haleigh case now called a homicide
Another day of searching turns up no sign of Haleigh
More Stories
"It's like something you see on TV, not in your own life," Croslin said. "It's a scary life."

But Hank Croslin's life is on TV. In fact, TV and other media have helped make Croslin and his family celebrities in an unscripted reality show -- one that involves a missing 5-year-old girl, illicit drug sales, family feuds and other travails, played out on national television, in Internet blogs, newspapers and television news.

"It's strange," Croslin said on a hot afternoon outside a church-run shelter in Palatka that for about five months has been home to him and his wife, Lisa.

Read more:

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100526/NEWS/100529593?p=1&tc=pg

Thank for the article....I would not be surprised at all if they were offered a TV show...people seem to love to watch the Croslins on line.

CBS is supposedly not going to be airing As The World Turns anymore after Sept.  I will have a free hour... ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 26, 2010, 06:10:22 PM
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/05/26/misty-haleigh-new-blog.jpg)
Haleigh Cummings / Misty Croslin

May 26, 2010
Haleigh: Babysitter Misty Croslin is still pointing fingers
Posted: 03:01 PM ET

The last person to see 6-year-old Haleigh Cummings alive is still pointing the finger from behind bars. In newly release jailhouse conversations with her family, Croslin says that she is “not the key” and that the cops need to “move on.”

And shockingly, she adds that the investigators need to take a closer look at Haleigh’s dad, Ronald Cummings.

Misty Croslin (speaking to her father): When I called him that night, how come he didn't answer the phone? I called and called and he didn't answer the phone. And then as soon as I open the door he's there. And he talks like, he says he was a drug dealer and all this stuff back in the day. He talks about all this sh*t. Then why did that black guy say that some people had her and he was going to go back and get her. But if he told, if Ronald told, then he would come to kill him. There's all this sh*t that they don't even look at. They just wanna look at me.

We continue to see inconsistencies in what Croslin has to say about that night. In recent weeks we learned that both Misty and her brother Tommy were implicating their cousin–Joe Overstreet –in Haleigh’s disappearance. But check out what she said to her dad:

Hank Croslin: I know you didn't do nothing. I just don't know if you know something.
Misty Croslin: I don't know. I'm telling you. If I knew I would. It's just I don't know. You wanna like in my mind it's just like, you know, people keep saying this person, this person, so you know in your mind you're like well hey that's that person so you actually start to believe it, like the Joe thing. You just, I want to believe that because that's what I keep hearing and it just like makes like sense this is what happened you know, but I don't know for 100 percent that that was him. I don't know.

Croslin is due back in court on June 3rd for a pre-trial hearing on her drug trafficking charges. We know that she was hoping for some sort of plea deal, but the Prosecutors have not budged on that front. Ronald Cummings, on the other hand, is currently in negotiations with the State’s Attorney’s office. His attorney says that of all goes as planned, he will get the bigger charges thrown out and hopefully his client will only serve 15 years behind bars.

Posted by: Marlaina Schiavo
Filed under: Haleigh Cummings

http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05/26/haleigh-babysitter-misty-croslin-is-still-pointing-fingers/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 26, 2010, 06:25:05 PM
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/padilla.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::
:nemo:


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 26, 2010, 06:53:21 PM
Here are the pix I saved - (http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss334/sunny_ccc/LC.jpg)

EllFlorida says:

The chick in the bottom photo at left is the (Fake) LindseyLPN who has the YouTube. http://bit.ly/aqeKjv     about 20 hours ago  via web 

https://twitter.com/EllFlorida


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 26, 2010, 06:53:31 PM
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/padilla.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::
:nemo:
::CowboySmiley::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 26, 2010, 06:54:42 PM
 ::MonkeyBike::


She had her tubes tied!

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/tubes.jpg)



Ok, no more, I'm promise. I'm killin' myself over here!!! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 26, 2010, 06:55:39 PM
I think these are some of the comments that were posted on that ireport about Lindsy


http://forums.radionewz.net/index.php?topic=98.0

[6:18pm Eastern]

 TrixieRose
12 minutes ago
Just some FYI Keith,don't feel bad,you're on a long list of casualities of all this.Don't feel lonely. Smiley
Someone used my nic for CNN,WTH. :O
I'm the only WinterRose,don't they know that? LOL
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TrixieRose
18 minutes ago
Shoot,I posted a link,but it won't post on info.People can be sued for defamation of character if they're lieing,they can be taken to court,just saying.As a matter of fact,LP would have no problem with that and has the money to do it. Smiley
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smghp
27 minutes ago
yes they are, facebook also.  I would give more info on them but i am not disgusting like them.
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TrixieRose
35 minutes ago
Too many are trying to suck money from the horror of a missing child,so sad.The two names mentioned are on myspace.
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smghp
35 minutes ago
I am keith in this trash.  At one point in time we all hanged out as friends.  Both of them had liked me and I NEVER did anything with none of them.  They are very jealous and nasty females.
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TrixieRose
43 minutes ago
Or they live in the neighborhood,but how would they get these pics if they don't know her?Oh wait a minute,are you the Keith in the article?
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TrixieRose
51 minutes ago
Maybe they're jealous and like the guy in the pics with Lindsy.Or one of them is an old girlfriend of his.
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TrixieRose
54 minutes ago
Are you saying the photos are lieing?They're recent photos.
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smghp
1 hour ago
The people invovled for posting this garbage names are Tasha Martinez and Lavel Trumpler. When you are trying to assassinate someone's character please look at your first. They are looking for some spotlight from Nancy Grace for maybe an interview or whatever.  My advice to anyone wanting there comments and for those comments to be taken seriously do a thorough background check  before you start talking to them, you will see what many people have seen when they have come in contact with them.
 
I am open for any and all questions regarding this post of lies and hate.
 
Keith Simpson
Less

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-448351
I wonder if this is one and the same Lavel Trumpler

(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/147/m_6950842e2d9d4a2fb8862caa259fea81.jpg)

#
LaVel Trumpler
Whats your point?
# 23 / Female
# PALM COAST, Florida, US
# Last Login: 5/18/2010
http://www.myspace.com/lavelc

and Tasha Martinez

(http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/115/m_20e4c78838ac4a0b8137d22c9066728a.jpg)
Tasha
Female
28 years old
Palm Coast, Florida
United States
Last Login: 5/26/2010
http://www.myspace.com/TashaMartinez25

EllFlorida says:

Apparently the monkees don't follow my twitz, lol. http://bit.ly/dgYmLs     about 2 hours ago  via web 

https://twitter.com/EllFlorida


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 26, 2010, 06:58:04 PM
Here are the pix I saved - (http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss334/sunny_ccc/LC.jpg)

EllFlorida says:

The chick in the bottom photo at left is the (Fake) LindseyLPN who has the YouTube. http://bit.ly/aqeKjv     about 20 hours ago  via web 

https://twitter.com/EllFlorida


So this is a Lindsy look alike....Lindsy had that same hairstyle when TC told her she looked good...and Lindsy said...".I had my job interview today." Which video # it was I can not remember. ::piggy::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 26, 2010, 07:15:24 PM
Here are the pix I saved - (http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss334/sunny_ccc/LC.jpg)

EllFlorida says:

The chick in the bottom photo at left is the (Fake) LindseyLPN who has the YouTube. http://bit.ly/aqeKjv     about 20 hours ago  via web 

https://twitter.com/EllFlorida


So this is a Lindsy look alike....Lindsy had that same hairstyle when TC told her she looked good...and Lindsy said...".I had my job interview today." Which video # it was I can not remember. ::piggy::

Beats me mymonkey. Your guess is as good as mine.  I am one  ::MonkeyQuestion::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: AZSunny on May 26, 2010, 07:17:00 PM
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/padilla.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::
:nemo:

Oh Carpe, that is the funniest yet!  I burst out laughing at that one!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 26, 2010, 07:17:45 PM
The one where she is kissing the guy... I thought that had to be Lindsy when she was young or another person altogether... because she looks to skinny and toned. ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 26, 2010, 07:21:13 PM
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/padilla.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::
:nemo:


Love it!!  ::MonkeyTongue::  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 26, 2010, 07:21:41 PM
AZ Sunny - LOL! Thanks. A cowboy needs something to hang his hat on, I guess.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 26, 2010, 07:22:56 PM
The one where she is kissing the guy... I thought that had to be Lindsy when she was young or another person altogether... because she looks to skinny and toned. ::HelloKitty::

I think they all are Lindsy, just at different times.

The person who posted them said he/she had gathered them from around the web, so they have to be all at different times in her life.

JMO. And I'm sticking to it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 26, 2010, 07:31:34 PM
The one where she is kissing the guy... I thought that had to be Lindsy when she was young or another person altogether... because she looks to skinny and toned. ::HelloKitty::

I think they all are Lindsy, just at different times.

The person who posted them said he/she had gathered them from around the web, so they have to be all at different times in her life.

JMO. And I'm sticking to it.


I am with you Brandi...I think all the pics are Lindsy. ::rhino::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: AZSunny on May 26, 2010, 07:47:00 PM
The one where she is kissing the guy... I thought that had to be Lindsy when she was young or another person altogether... because she looks to skinny and toned. ::HelloKitty::

I think they all are Lindsy, just at different times.

The person who posted them said he/she had gathered them from around the web, so they have to be all at different times in her life.

JMO. And I'm sticking to it.

I think you are right Brandi.  They all look like the same person to me.  I think some were taken when she was younger.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: NCSunny on May 26, 2010, 07:56:11 PM
::MonkeyBike::


She had her tubes tied!

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/tubes.jpg)



Ok, no more, I'm promise. I'm killin' myself over here!!! ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 26, 2010, 07:58:01 PM
Correct me if I get this wrong, please. ...but weren`t Hank and Lisa shacking up with Tommy and Lindsy before the Haleigh disappearance hit?

That Gainesville news piece - Hank said he was working and making good money... and now he does not, because of all of this. Yeah right... Pillbilly, puh-leeze. You will never be a salesman. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 26, 2010, 08:02:06 PM
Nancy Grace covering Haleigh.  Mentioning new jail house letter.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 26, 2010, 08:04:13 PM
Correct me if I get this wrong, please. ...but weren`t Hank and Lisa shacking up with Tommy and Lindsy before the Haleigh disappearance hit?

That Gainesville news piece - Hank said he was working and making good money... and now he does not, because of all of this. Yeah right... Pillbilly, puh-leeze. You will never be a salesman. ::MonkeyNoNo::

That whole article sounded like Hank whining and asking for money to me.

It was my impression that Lisa and Hank were living at Tommy's the night Haleigh went missing. Hank was in the hospital, IIRC.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 26, 2010, 08:05:20 PM
Correct me if I get this wrong, please. ...but weren`t Hank and Lisa shacking up with Tommy and Lindsy before the Haleigh disappearance hit?

That Gainesville news piece - Hank said he was working and making good money... and now he does not, because of all of this. Yeah right... Pillbilly, puh-leeze. You will never be a salesman. ::MonkeyNoNo::
I may be incorrect as well Carpe, but I think Hank and Lisa was living at the Magnolia address prior to the car crash that Hank was involved in.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 26, 2010, 08:07:33 PM
AH said that in the new letter that police had searched the wrong dock.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 26, 2010, 08:09:50 PM
AH said that in the new letter that police had searched the wrong dock.
...and her lawyer, Robert Fields says she just might be confused.

 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 26, 2010, 08:13:29 PM
Correct me if I get this wrong, please. ...but weren`t Hank and Lisa shacking up with Tommy and Lindsy before the Haleigh disappearance hit?

That Gainesville news piece - Hank said he was working and making good money... and now he does not, because of all of this. Yeah right... Pillbilly, puh-leeze. You will never be a salesman. ::MonkeyNoNo::

AS of Feb 7, Hank sr listed his addy with the hospital as 130 magnolia, Satsuma. As you can see, we are all having a difficult time figuring out which Magnollia. I had no idea that the magnolia at Shell Harbor is actually in Satsuma...?/!!

__________________________________________________________________________

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2...ummings-search

Apr 13, 2010 ... 130 Shell Road, Satsuma, Florida. The Haleigh search, close to where Misty Croslin's parents lived on Magnolia Drive before Haleigh disappeared. Officers, divers and police dogs from several Northeast Florida agencies combed the area off County Road 309, including the river and woods on either bank.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: numbersgirl on May 26, 2010, 08:36:12 PM
Hi Monkeys!

Is anybody watching Miz Nancy?  Miz Nancy's knickers seem a little tight tonight.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


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Post by: Izzy58 on May 26, 2010, 08:42:00 PM
Hi Monkeys!

Is anybody watching Miz Nancy?  Miz Nancy's knickers seem a little tight tonight.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Yeah she didn't like it when Mark Klass started talking about Ron using Misty for sex and a babysister lol!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on May 26, 2010, 08:42:53 PM
Hi Monkeys!

Is anybody watching Miz Nancy?  Miz Nancy's knickers seem a little tight tonight.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Yeah she didn't like it when Mark Klass started talking about Ron using Misty for sex and a babysister lol!

Typed too fast!  BABYSITTER   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 26, 2010, 08:45:54 PM
Ron`s Mickey Mouse Voice:

Some sorry piece of trash took my daughter... sniff sniff

...and he`s gonna be wasted before this all done. ::MonkeyDevil::

I want to call a friend and leave it on their answering machine as a prank. lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: numbersgirl on May 26, 2010, 08:46:56 PM
Izzy....... ::MonkeyDevil::

Between that and Carpe's homage to LP/Lindsy, I'm cracking up here!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on May 26, 2010, 08:48:39 PM
I noticed on NG they didn't have any callers, were they afraid people would ask about the cybersex between LP and Lindsy?  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 26, 2010, 08:48:49 PM
Here are the pix I saved - (http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss334/sunny_ccc/LC.jpg)

EllFlorida says:

The chick in the bottom photo at left is the (Fake) LindseyLPN who has the YouTube. http://bit.ly/aqeKjv     about 20 hours ago  via web 

https://twitter.com/EllFlorida


So this is a Lindsy look alike....Lindsy had that same hairstyle when TC told her she looked good...and Lindsy said...".I had my job interview today." Which video # it was I can not remember. ::piggy::

Beats me mymonkey. Your guess is as good as mine.  I am one  ::MonkeyQuestion::

 EllFlorida says:

 
My bad. It is the 2nd photo from the bottom of the 3 females. Pls see my earlier twt re: FakeLindz' YouTube "friend." 2 minutes ago via mobile web

https://twitter.com/EllFlorida


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on May 26, 2010, 08:51:20 PM
Izzy....... ::MonkeyDevil::

Between that and Carpe's homage to LP/Lindsy, I'm cracking up here!

You think the pic has circulated around the net yet and good ole LP seen it? hahahaha!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on May 26, 2010, 08:54:26 PM

Quote

 EllFlorida says:

 
My bad. It is the 2nd photo from the bottom of the 3 females. Pls see my earlier twt re: FakeLindz' YouTube "friend." 2 minutes ago via mobile web

https://twitter.com/EllFlorida


And does ELLFLORIDA know this for a fact that it isn't Lindsy? Does she have inside info cause they all look like Lindsy to me!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 26, 2010, 08:56:28 PM
AH said that in the new letter that police had searched the wrong dock.
...and her lawyer, Robert Fields says she just might be confused.

 ::MonkeyEek::
This is just insane  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: higherhopes on May 26, 2010, 08:56:33 PM
Hello Monkeys, I read here everyday, just havent had much to say....but those pictures of Linsy just scorched my eyeballs.....lol...oh .. and  does anyone remember how to fix it when your quote box jumps when you try to post something?  thanks


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Magnolia on May 26, 2010, 09:01:16 PM
Hello Monkeys, I read here everyday, just havent had much to say....but those pictures of Linsy just scorched my eyeballs.....lol...oh .. and  does anyone remember how to fix it when your quote box jumps when you try to post something?  thanks

On IE...click on tools in the upper right of the screen and then click on Compatibility


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 26, 2010, 09:05:54 PM
I knew this story had hit mass appeal... when I saw David Letterman work it into a bit on his show a couple nights ago.

He said he was with his kid... and the kid got a dvd stuck in a player or laptop or something... and Dave couldn`t get it out... so he took a hammer to it and beat the
stuffing out of it to dislodge the DVD.

He said it was a scene straight out of Putnam County!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: melisb on May 26, 2010, 09:06:26 PM
Hello Monkeys, I read here everyday, just havent had much to say....but those pictures of Linsy just scorched my eyeballs.....lol...oh .. and  does anyone remember how to fix it when your quote box jumps when you try to post something?  thanks


HH--I think you have to click on tools and then click on compatability view.  I did it following someone's suggestion.  It worked and I can't remember who to thank either.  I don't think that any of the pics look like Lindsy except...the one with the 3 girls and maybe the on girl in the striped shirt dancing with the guy.  For some reason I don't see Lindsy's fam being liberal enough to let her date outside her race.  They seem like the type to accept Tommy's sorry butt rather than another race.  This is my opinion only and I am only stating what I think about that bunch.  I do not know them and they may be as open as the rest of us. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: higherhopes on May 26, 2010, 09:08:28 PM
Hello Monkeys, I read here everyday, just havent had much to say....but those pictures of Linsy just scorched my eyeballs.....lol...oh .. and  does anyone remember how to fix it when your quote box jumps when you try to post something?  thanks

On IE...click on tools in the upper right of the screen and then click on Compatibility
Thank you so much...I knew there was a way to fix that....thanks again.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 26, 2010, 09:25:08 PM
No arrests in Haleigh Cummings case, but a Tennessee man draws attention as police search in Satsuma
Posted: April 14, 2010 - 6:14am


The area being searched is around Shell Harbour Road, close to where Misty Croslin’s parents lived on Magnolia Drive before Haleigh disappeared. Her father said Overstreet had stayed at the residence before.

Lt. Johnny Greenwood of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office said the area hadn’t been searched before.

"Although various resources are being utilized to conduct this search, it is just one of many operations conducted during this investigation,” a statement from the Sheriff’s Office said.

Tuesday, officers, divers and police dogs from several Northeast Florida agencies combed the area off County Road 309, including the river and woods on either bank. Dozens of searchers, divers and several boats are being used, including some equipped with sophisticated underwater sonar.

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-04-13/story/authorities-conducting-haleigh-cummings-search


Nancy Grace - April 22, 2010

ANNETTE SYKES, HALEIGH`S GREAT-GRANDMOTHER: Yes, she did. Ms. Hollars called me and told me -- she certainly did -- that she had called down here and told them what Tommy had told her. And Teresa and I went and -- over to that area and walked around all afternoon and looked in the woods over there. But of course, we didn`t find anything.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/22/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: melisb on May 26, 2010, 09:39:15 PM
No arrests in Haleigh Cummings case, but a Tennessee man draws attention as police search in Satsuma
Posted: April 14, 2010 - 6:14am


The area being searched is around Shell Harbour Road, close to where Misty Croslin’s parents lived on Magnolia Drive before Haleigh disappeared. Her father said Overstreet had stayed at the residence before.

Lt. Johnny Greenwood of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office said the area hadn’t been searched before.

"Although various resources are being utilized to conduct this search, it is just one of many operations conducted during this investigation,” a statement from the Sheriff’s Office said.

Tuesday, officers, divers and police dogs from several Northeast Florida agencies combed the area off County Road 309, including the river and woods on either bank. Dozens of searchers, divers and several boats are being used, including some equipped with sophisticated underwater sonar.

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-04-13/story/authorities-conducting-haleigh-cummings-search


Nancy Grace - April 22, 2010

ANNETTE SYKES, HALEIGH`S GREAT-GRANDMOTHER: Yes, she did. Ms. Hollars called me and told me -- she certainly did -- that she had called down here and told them what Tommy had told her. And Teresa and I went and -- over to that area and walked around all afternoon and looked in the woods over there. But of course, we didn`t find anything.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/22/ng.01.html


Well, well, since Misty had the wrong dock TN and AS will have to trek their behinds out in this heat and search all over again.  This time I hope they get to searchin' in the right woods!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 26, 2010, 09:49:07 PM
MADJGNLAW posted:

Timmy & Chelsea Croslin: What all is known about Timmy waking up at 12:30AM Feb 9th?

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5223445&postcount=245

Timmy & Chelsea Croslin have been on my radar since the beginni
ng. He is said to be Misty's favorite brother and IMO if Misty was ever to need help, he would be the one she would call on.
There are several things that have been said by Misty and Ronald about Timmy that make me wonder if it was not Timmy that also came to Misty's aid the night Haleigh went missing.

Ronald mentions to Cobra early on that Timmy was awake at 1AM. Nothing much was said, except that Timmy was awake. How would RC know this?

Chelsea claims he was knocked out asleep that night on pain meds.

Misty later says on her LVA test that Timmy woke up around 12:30AM -1:00AM Feb 9, 2009 and noticed Joe was not in his room. How would Chelsea not of noticed if Joe took off? Later he says Joe was sitting up on the bed.
If Timmy did wake up, why?

If something was going on Chelsea would of known as well, she said she was up late working on insurance paper work. So how is it that Timmy and Chelsea don't know where Joe was or if he took the van? Chelsea only points the finger at Joe and gives a different time of seeing him up with his clothe on. IMO, Timmy and Chelsea know much more than what they are saying.Listen around the 2:14 Mark to what Misty has to say about Timmy being awake.

Misty Croslin Cummings Voice Stress Test 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA_4G9XJ4o0&feature=player_embedded#!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 26, 2010, 10:26:35 PM
Hello Monkeys, I read here everyday, just havent had much to say....but those pictures of Linsy just scorched my eyeballs.....lol...oh .. and  does anyone remember how to fix it when your quote box jumps when you try to post something?  thanks

YES ... SURE DO!!!  Go up to TOOLS ... and Compatibility View Settings.   Make sure that this website is added. 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 26, 2010, 10:46:21 PM
Hank keeps thinking that Art Harris accused Misty and Donna Brock of being Lebanese.
Everyone knows they`re American! Come onnnnnnnn... you need to stop.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 26, 2010, 10:53:51 PM
Quote from: carpe noctem link=topic=7740 .m nnnnnn... you need to stop.
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 26, 2010, 10:54:23 PM
I did find Misty`s strong denial of it hysterical!

Misty: Okay.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 26, 2010, 10:55:26 PM
Hank keeps thinking that Art Harris accused Misty and Donna Brock of being Lebanese.
Everyone knows they`re American! Come onnnnnnnn... you need to stop.


I was laughing so hard I messed up my previous post....I need a depends you have me laughing so hard ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 26, 2010, 10:55:31 PM

Hi Guys,,,
been a while first of all elle florida you are a conspiracy nutcase you think everything is fake and obv the youtube account is but you believe the person behind it actually is a lindsy look alike as well... OMG please stop drinking the water if you even are a local
as for the pics in general i think the one where she is sitting on his lap is old and the one with him behind her is new maybe this is the alleged ex/repeat boyfriend... also whoever wrote the article is obviously full of spite for whatever reason and i for one am glad she is going out and smiling i don't believe the whole leaving her kids alone having him live there etc bull i think that part is just spiteful embelishment. and to whoever said her fam would rather a white guy i doubt it... they seem to be more modern then the trashy in laws and would prob rather a black guy then more trailer trash... by the way the only thing i find interesting aboutr the pics is the fact that she is dancing with king hillbilly in a cluttered trashy setting and also living it up with a big black guys either she is really playing the field or really confused lol
don't bash me but i don't see anything wrong with what she is doing whatsoever
yes she is poor and yes she has 3 kids with no dad anymore .... so f'ing what she is not dead i would much rather see her out 4 nights a week enjoying life finally then at home 24/7 up her kids a$$ making a bee line towards becoming a shut in cat lady.. and yes i know her kids are traumatized and need their mom right now but not 24/7 and they need a happy mom not a sit in the house and dwell on my problems for the rest of my life mom she needs to move on and that is what she is doing... that saying you need to make yourself happy before you can make others happy applies to kids too... and even if she is living off the state so what 80% of america is i'd rather see her sharing her food stamps with this dude then selling them for crack
she needs to refind herself guys so just let her do it out of all the ms pics and unannounced ones i've seen (and i've seen hundreds) i stick to my guns on this one lindsy is/was a good mom and the only one of all of them with any sense of self worth and responsibility... i do not think she had any absolute knowledge of haleighs death maybe suspicions but not knowledge... she is a young single mom that at least has a career to fall back on let her play for a while she deserves it... if most people's world came crashing down like that to such an extent and they were faced with reality like she has been they wouldn't even have had the strength to pick themselves back up again... i'm glad she is choosing life it takes a lot to fess up to the fact that you were married to a scumbag possible rapist/murderer and to crawl back to the family that didn't like him anyways admit your defeat in not being able to change him accept the haha i told you so's and still smile afterward...
i know must of you see this behavior as neglecting her needful kids yada yada but i find it somewhat admirable... at her age what she is doing is healthy she was tied down to dumbass so early on that she probably never had the chance to develop into her own person she needs to teach herself how to "live" so she can teach her kids how to "live"


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 26, 2010, 10:57:18 PM
Hank keeps thinking that Art Harris accused Misty and Donna Brock of being Lebanese.
Everyone knows they`re American! Come onnnnnnnn... you need to stop.


I was laughing so hard I messed up my previous post....I need a depends you have me laughing so hard ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

I was wondering what was up with that air quote! ha ha ha


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 26, 2010, 11:09:21 PM
and even if she is living off the state so what 80% of america is i'd rather see her sharing her food stamps with this dude then selling them for crack

As opposed to using them for what they were meant to do, feed her kids?


Penny, tell me your handle has been hijacked. You wrote that?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 26, 2010, 11:31:25 PM
I did find Misty`s strong denial of it hysterical!

Misty: Okay.


 ::MonkeyTongue:: I picked up on that one, too.   ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: O4Bull on May 26, 2010, 11:39:06 PM
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/padilla.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::
:nemo:
O M G ... Carpe  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::, I loves me some Carpe  ::rhino::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: O4Bull on May 26, 2010, 11:44:14 PM
Hi Monkeys!

Is anybody watching Miz Nancy?  Miz Nancy's knickers seem a little tight tonight.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Yeah she didn't like it when Mark Klass started talking about Ron using Misty for sex and a babysister lol!

Typed too fast!  BABYSITTER   ::MonkeyJnBox::
I got a chuckle out of that! LOL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on May 26, 2010, 11:48:30 PM
I think that the " Croslins " would make a good reality show.
Episode11 : da da da da dum : Tommy finds a headless rat in the mailbox, kiddos cry because it wuz their pet
Epidode 12 : Lisa gets some teef
Episode 13 : Lisa accuses Flora of stealing her teef
Episode 14 : Croslins invite the Cummings over to make peace
Episode 15 : Beat down on front lawn, Annette vs Flora
Episode 16: Cummings go home, only to fine their guns, terlet paper and cheque book be gone
Episode 17 : Police question Croslins, they say the Lebanese did it
Episode 18: Lenny shows up to smooth things over. He leaves and he can't find his hat. Damn those Lebanese. His boots are gone too, he wears Lindsay's flippers home.
Sorry, I just took some good meds. lol
Hey, I must be a Croslin ! !


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on May 26, 2010, 11:54:36 PM
I think that the " Croslins " would make a good reality show.
Episode11 : da da da da dum : Tommy finds a headless rat in the mailbox, kiddos cry because it wuz their pet
Epidode 12 : Lisa gets some teef
Episode 13 : Lisa accuses Flora of stealing her teef
Episode 14 : Croslins invite the Cummings over to make peace
Episode 15 : Beat down on front lawn, Annette vs Flora
Episode 16: Cummings go home, only to fine their guns, terlet paper and cheque book be gone
Episode 17 : Police question Croslins, they say the Lebanese did it
Episode 18: Lenny shows up to smooth things over. He leaves and he can't find his hat. Damn those Lebanese. His boots are gone too, he wears Lindsay's flippers home.
Sorry, I just took some good meds. lol
Hey, I must be a Croslin ! !

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: O4Bull on May 26, 2010, 11:55:05 PM
I did find Misty`s strong denial of it hysterical!

Misty: Okay.
yeah, I thought the same thing. ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 26, 2010, 11:58:36 PM
and even if she is living off the state so what 80% of america is i'd rather see her sharing her food stamps with this dude then selling them for crack

As opposed to using them for what they were meant to do, feed her kids?


Penny, tell me your handle has been hijacked. You wrote that?
yup and trust me i know people on food stamps there is plenty to go around (my friend has 4 kids just got divorced and to be spiteful her husb quit working so no child support or alimony etc anyways she went and applied for food stamps and they only gave her a 3 person amount instead of 5 because she didn't have 2 birth certs with her... anyways she is not going to go back and ask for a 5 person allotment because she doesn't need it... whatever the ammount they gave her her cabinets are like a fricking grocery store i have never seen so much food in one persons house)... i am sure she has enough foodstamps to feed her kids and him... i'm not saying she should be and i'm not convinced she is but even if it is the case i'd rather she do that then sell them for drugs like the croslins do


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: O4Bull on May 27, 2010, 12:02:00 AM

Hi Guys,,,
been a while first of all elle florida you are a conspiracy nutcase you think everything is fake and obv the youtube account is but you believe the person behind it actually is a lindsy look alike as well... OMG please stop drinking the water if you even are a local
as for the pics in general i think the one where she is sitting on his lap is old and the one with him behind her is new maybe this is the alleged ex/repeat boyfriend... also whoever wrote the article is obviously full of spite for whatever reason and i for one am glad she is going out and smiling i don't believe the whole leaving her kids alone having him live there etc bull i think that part is just spiteful embelishment. and to whoever said her fam would rather a white guy i doubt it... they seem to be more modern then the trashy in laws and would prob rather a black guy then more trailer trash... by the way the only thing i find interesting aboutr the pics is the fact that she is dancing with king hillbilly in a cluttered trashy setting and also living it up with a big black guys either she is really playing the field or really confused lol
don't bash me but i don't see anything wrong with what she is doing whatsoever
yes she is poor and yes she has 3 kids with no dad anymore .... so f'ing what she is not dead i would much rather see her out 4 nights a week enjoying life finally then at home 24/7 up her kids a$$ making a bee line towards becoming a shut in cat lady.. and yes i know her kids are traumatized and need their mom right now but not 24/7 and they need a happy mom not a sit in the house and dwell on my problems for the rest of my life mom she needs to move on and that is what she is doing... that saying you need to make yourself happy before you can make others happy applies to kids too... and even if she is living off the state so what 80% of america is i'd rather see her sharing her food stamps with this dude then selling them for crack
she needs to refind herself guys so just let her do it out of all the ms pics and unannounced ones i've seen (and i've seen hundreds) i stick to my guns on this one lindsy is/was a good mom and the only one of all of them with any sense of self worth and responsibility... i do not think she had any absolute knowledge of haleighs death maybe suspicions but not knowledge... she is a young single mom that at least has a career to fall back on let her play for a while she deserves it... if most people's world came crashing down like that to such an extent and they were faced with reality like she has been they wouldn't even have had the strength to pick themselves back up again... i'm glad she is choosing life it takes a lot to fess up to the fact that you were married to a scumbag possible rapist/murderer and to crawl back to the family that didn't like him anyways admit your defeat in not being able to change him accept the haha i told you so's and still smile afterward...
i know must of you see this behavior as neglecting her needful kids yada yada but i find it somewhat admirable... at her age what she is doing is healthy she was tied down to dumbass so early on that she probably never had the chance to develop into her own person she needs to teach herself how to "live" so she can teach her kids how to "live"

hmmm, where do I start? I think I'll sum it up with "are you smokin' crack"?  Her kids need her more now than ever.  I don't want her out 4 nights a week, who's gonna watch the kids.  She can grieve later, right now she's the only parent those kids have.  As far as sharing her food stamps with an apparently "able bodied" young man, that makes me want to hurl.  S E R I O U S L Y.

Sorry Penny, I just can't believe you feel that way.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 27, 2010, 12:13:27 AM
wanted to add i am not trying to start a lindsay fan club or anything i just find it funny that when haleigh is missing still the big topic of convo is who her ex step aunt by marriage is dating almost 2 years later...
and again i think everything she is doing is healthy in the sense that she is well on her way thru the process of decroslining herself tim miller said after spending 12 days with this crowd his mind was warped... how long did she put in and she can still dress herself and fix her hair... good for her
and what i meant by the foodstamp thing is more then half of america is on them and just because our tax dollars are feeding her kids right now it doesn't give us the right to condemn her to a life of being homebound and crippled...
if she wants to get rid of the kids for the night cook herself and her man a steak dinner and then go out drinking she can we pay her food bill we don't control her life and she is not less of a person or less deserving just for having to be on foodstamps the fact that she got herself to school and a degree of somesort while in the midst of those crackmonsters is admirable to me i say let the bish eat cake


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Magnolia on May 27, 2010, 12:19:34 AM
wanted to add i am not trying to start a lindsay fan club or anything i just find it funny that when haleigh is missing still the big topic of convo is who her ex step aunt by marriage is dating almost 2 years later...
and again i think everything she is doing is healthy in the sense that she is well on her way thru the process of decroslining herself tim miller said after spending 12 days with this crowd his mind was warped... how long did she put in and she can still dress herself and fix her hair... good for her
and what i meant by the foodstamp thing is more then half of america is on them and just because our tax dollars are feeding her kids right now it doesn't give us the right to condemn her to a life of being homebound and crippled...
if she wants to get rid of the kids for the night cook herself and her man a steak dinner and then go out drinking she can we pay her food bill we don't control her life and she is not less of a person or less deserving just for having to be on foodstamps the fact that she got herself to school and a degree of somesort while in the midst of those crackmonsters is admirable to me i say let the bish eat cake

It's not my place to judge her but, don't you think she should wait till she is divorced from Tommy before she starts "live"?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Blumonkey on May 27, 2010, 12:21:38 AM

(snipped)
don't bash me but i don't see anything wrong with what she is doing whatsoever
 even if she is living off the state so what 80% of america is i'd rather see her sharing her food stamps with this dude then selling them for crack
she needs to teach herself how to "live" so she can teach her kids how to "live"

Call me old fashioned but I do see something wrong with adultery and she is still married to TC. I also take offense to the notion that it is okay to defraud the government and the hard working tax payers just because others do it. I agree that Lindsey needs to teach her children how to live but she needs to teach them something other than the code of ethics that seems to be the norm in Putnam County. She has an opportunity to break the cycle for her children but sad to say, she is behaving very much like a Croslin. JMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 27, 2010, 12:26:08 AM

(snipped)
don't bash me but i don't see anything wrong with what she is doing whatsoever
 even if she is living off the state so what 80% of america is i'd rather see her sharing her food stamps with this dude then selling them for crack
she needs to teach herself how to "live" so she can teach her kids how to "live"

Call me old fashioned but I do see something wrong with adultery and she is still married to TC. I also take offense to the notion that it is okay to defraud the government and the hard working tax payers just because others do it. I agree that Lindsey needs to teach her children how to live but she needs to teach them something other than the code of ethics that seems to be the norm in Putnam County. She has an opportunity to break the cycle for her children but sad to say, she is behaving very much like a Croslin. JMO.

 ::rhino::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 27, 2010, 12:40:57 AM
BULL,
when i said go out 4 nights a week i meant after they were sleeping and obviously with a responsible babysitter... yes her kids need her but like i said she needs to fix herself before she can provide anything for them... can you even imagine (assuming she is totally innocent regarding haleigh and all) what this girl has been thru can you imagine having to wonder if your husband dumped a childs body after he allowed his cousin to rape her... in real life imagine that scenario just for a second... right now lindsay needs to do whatever it takes to get lindsay back no if ands or buts about it even if it means having to downward spiral a little first... i posted something similar when she got pierced and i really don't want to have to explain again but being miserable depressed suicidal 24/7 mom is 100 time worse then a happy good mom that goes out for mom time to get away you are right the kids do need a mom right now more then ever but they need a MOM not a sheel of woman who dwells on the past kids adapt more then you think and are more resiliant then you could imagine... i don't believe 95% of that bs article but if it is true that her son is in counseling it prob has more to do with what his "dad" did then if he saw a black guy in mommy's bed

here's a lil tidbit...
i had a baby very young with the worst guy on the planet earth i upbruptly uprooted my 3 year old daughter and moved out i then immediately started dating and going out again i even snuck this one guy in my bed every night after she was sleeping and would try to have him out in the morning this went on for about a month until she walked in on us in the morning one day under the sheets no clothes (most akward moment in the world for me and him) she walked over to us and introduced herself to him told him she could say the word bureau and then left the room... that guy that you are probably thinking was a booty call is now my husband and her adopted dad and best friend... i got lucky that i only had to kiss one frog but if that one wasn't the prince there would have been many many many more frogs and the fact that i was on foodstamps at the time would not have stopped me from making them breakfast

 ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 27, 2010, 12:56:58 AM

(snipped)
don't bash me but i don't see anything wrong with what she is doing whatsoever
 even if she is living off the state so what 80% of america is i'd rather see her sharing her food stamps with this dude then selling them for crack
she needs to teach herself how to "live" so she can teach her kids how to "live"

Call me old fashioned but I do see something wrong with adultery and she is still married to TC. I also take offense to the notion that it is okay to defraud the government and the hard working tax payers just because others do it. I agree that Lindsey needs to teach her children how to live but she needs to teach them something other than the code of ethics that seems to be the norm in Putnam County. She has an opportunity to break the cycle for her children but sad to say, she is behaving very much like a Croslin. JMO.

 ::rhino::


she is not defrauding the government and if she is working at the board of health then the state of fl is very aware of her new income as far as the adultry eh i agree but her best bet is to ever forget she was even married in the first place she has absolutely every right to move on she got an education while she was with him she moved out of putnam county she rekindled with her family who must be at least a little better then the croslins and she has a job now so why the hell does everyone care who or how many people she is sleeping with... and i do not agree that she is behaving like a croslin at all there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a mom and going out socially and drinking and enjoying your non mom time... if she was behaving like a croslin she would still look like chit be foaming at the mouth and nodding off somewhere but she isn't she is brushing her hair now and enjoying life... call me when she nods off at the bus stop or fist fight her family members for pills
as far as the xanax if true then thank god she is taking them if i were her and i didn't take them i wouldn't have any hair left in my head to brush i would have pulled it all out in despaire every night when i realized what a f'ed up mess of a life i had to pick up
she's not sticking with tommy she moved away from palaka she got her degree she got a job she is getting her son counceling at the advise of the school not trying to fight a counceling order in court like ron did with jr... she is doing everything we would tell her to so what is the problem?
i'll just agree to disagree and if i end up eating my words then so be it but i bet in 2 more years when we are still here lindsay will have put herself together and won't be eating foodstamps anymore


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 27, 2010, 01:02:43 AM
wanted to add i am not trying to start a lindsay fan club or anything i just find it funny that when haleigh is missing still the big topic of convo is who her ex step aunt by marriage is dating almost 2 years later...
and again i think everything she is doing is healthy in the sense that she is well on her way thru the process of decroslining herself tim miller said after spending 12 days with this crowd his mind was warped... how long did she put in and she can still dress herself and fix her hair... good for her
and what i meant by the foodstamp thing is more then half of america is on them and just because our tax dollars are feeding her kids right now it doesn't give us the right to condemn her to a life of being homebound and crippled...
if she wants to get rid of the kids for the night cook herself and her man a steak dinner and then go out drinking she can we pay her food bill we don't control her life and she is not less of a person or less deserving just for having to be on foodstamps the fact that she got herself to school and a degree of somesort while in the midst of those crackmonsters is admirable to me i say let the bish eat cake

It's not my place to judge her but, don't you think she should wait till she is divorced from Tommy before she starts "live"?
in general yes but not in this situation... these are not good catholics that had a wholesome catholic wedding for the sake of promissing themselves to one another... this was a marriage that should have never happened and did tommy wait until he was divorced before he jeopardized the structure of his family by involving himself in drug/murder cases?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 27, 2010, 01:16:35 AM
 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::

I don't even want to get into the middle of this.  Just want to make a gentle suggestion to include --->  IMO  <--- with each post that may otherwise be taken as fact or the general consenus of each and every monkey. 

IMO = In My Opinion




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 27, 2010, 01:20:02 AM
i got a question and i'm only half being a smart a$$ but....
if you are on foodstamps like a huge chunk of the country and not just trailer trash laid of hard workers etc... and you have a house guest or you host thanksgiving for a select few of you fam and friends are you trying to tell me you would tell them to bring their own food or that you would charge them for the meal and cut a check to uncle sam?
you wouldn't do either of those so i guess you would be defrauding the government or if your kids shares their lunch at school should someone report you? no
like i said i don't really believe any of that article but i didn't take it to mean she was stocking his house full of food...
our founding fathers granted us life liberty and the pursuit of happiness and foodstamps provide help to people that need it... we give it to the aliens so i think lindsay can have those rights as well... just saying


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 27, 2010, 01:25:02 AM
::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::

I don't even want to get into the middle of this.  Just want to make a gentle suggestion to include --->  IMO  <--- with each post that may otherwise be taken as fact or the general consenus of each and every monkey. 

IMO = In My Opinion



don't worry wyks anyone reading this thread would clearly understand i am the only one that feels that way and would clearly see what the general consensus would be...
strange that i usually agree with most of the posters that can't believe i feel this way and i absolutely cannot believe that they are so against the only "croslin" with a job, their own place, and an education... litterally the only one come on guys really?
strange


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Magnolia on May 27, 2010, 01:37:36 AM
::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::

I don't even want to get into the middle of this.  Just want to make a gentle suggestion to include --->  IMO  <--- with each post that may otherwise be taken as fact or the general consenus of each and every monkey. 

IMO = In My Opinion



don't worry wyks anyone reading this thread would clearly understand i am the only one that feels that way and would clearly see what the general consensus would be...
strange that i usually agree with most of the posters that can't believe i feel this way and i absolutely cannot believe that they are so against the only "croslin" with a job, their own place, and an education... litterally the only one come on guys really?
strange

IMO Lyndsy is not even in a frame of mind to make good decisions right now.  I dont think it
makes her a shell of a woman to try to adjust to her situation and having sole support  of her
children.  She has to be in a state of shock and the Lyndsy gone wild phase should be put on
hold until she can adjust to her new job and her life alone with her children.  Her children are very young.
Give her time to get her wits about her before she goes hog wild.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on May 27, 2010, 02:14:05 AM
::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::

I don't even want to get into the middle of this.  Just want to make a gentle suggestion to include --->  IMO  <--- with each post that may otherwise be taken as fact or the general consenus of each and every monkey. 

IMO = In My Opinion



don't worry wyks anyone reading this thread would clearly understand i am the only one that feels that way and would clearly see what the general consensus would be...
strange that i usually agree with most of the posters that can't believe i feel this way and i absolutely cannot believe that they are so against the only "croslin" with a job, their own place, and an education... litterally the only one come on guys really?
strange

It's a good suggestion, Wyks, and I agree with it. If we can manage to keep the topic off of social mores and our individual opinions about them, this thread stands a much better chance of being one that all posters will be comfortable in. Penny, if you're aware that " I am the only one that feels that way...." please don't continue to provoke reactions by asserting a lone view on an issue that reaches beyond the case. Thanks so much!  


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 27, 2010, 02:17:42 AM

Justice for Haleigh!

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Haleigh/HaLeigh2.jpg)



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 27, 2010, 06:08:00 AM
If Lindsy had to work to feed her kids rather than get
free handouts from the gov. I'm almost positive she would
have less time in her schedule to be:

1. Spinning
2. Focusing on her foot and her muffin
3. Fixing dinner for Basketball Jones
4. Calling her grandparents for her next handout
5. Neglecting her dog. She does, I heard it from her own mouth.
6. Diddling with her new laptop Padilla fronted for her

I just had to suffer people like this living next to me for the past two years.
They were friggin' MISERABLE to live next to. The father gave the daughter a
NICE place to live. She married a loser - a felon with no job. They had a 2-3
year adorable child. The vehicle they had was a POS. No reg. / No insurance -
and DILBERT, the 'husband' ran out everyday to "FIX" it before they could get
it started to go anywhere. He "FIXED" it - everyday - sometimes for hours on
end and for some reason when he "fixed" it, it would set off the car alarm
horn. There were some days when I wanted to go out and "fix" his broken neck.
The one I was fixing to snap in half.

They got food stamps. They had free rent, all utilities were paid every month
by POPS.

To top off everything else, they went out and got a dog. Can't afford food for
the baby, or a working, legally registered vehicle... but some how a dog made the
list. They kept the dog in a cage, barking around the clock, the poor thing sounded
absolutely miserable... and he was spreading the 'love' around.

There was only one requirement this girl and her beloved Mr. Right aka Dilbert
 could not handle - Getting a job.

Why? Because they were given everything. Why work?

Someone called DCS on them. Their life built of sand castles collapsed.

They moved almost overnight. It was just like the dang circus packed up and left.

I have been getting the most restful sleep I've had in years.

Lindsy got a job, and that is a step in the right direction... but she has a long way to go.

From what she has said herself - and what has been reported from many sources, even if you
exclude her post from her secret admirer, she sounds about as fun to have in your neighborhood as this girl I am talking about.

I don't think she needs to become a Nun... but you've got to maintain your house.

It affects others when you do not.

If you don't or can't MAINTAIN - there are people who will fix this situation for you. ::MonkeyHaHa::

This is America - We care. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2010, 07:04:29 AM
(http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=GS&Date=20100527&Category=ARTICLES&ArtNo=5271047&Ref=AR&Profile=1002&MaxW=600&border=0)
Hank Croslin Sr., father of Hank Croslin Jr. and Misty Croslin, says he has had problems with the community-harassment, inability to find a job- because of their notoriety over the case of missing child Haleigh Cummings, in which his daughter was involved, shown Wednesday, May 19, 2010 at his residence in Palatka, Fla.

Reality hits home for Croslin parents

Hank and Lisa Croslin can't find work and are facing legal problems.

By Cindy Swirko
Staff writer

Published: Thursday, May 27, 2010 at 6:01 a.m.
Last Modified: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 9:52 p.m.


PALATKA - Hank Croslin never dreamed he would find himself in the situation he is in now - broke, living in a shelter, two of his children in jail, he and his wife on probation.

"It's like something you see on TV, not in your own life," Croslin said. "It's a scary life."

But Hank Croslin's life is on TV. In fact, TV and other media have helped make Croslin and his family celebrities in an unscripted reality show - one that involves a missing 5-year-old girl, illicit drug sales, family feuds and other travails, played out on national television, in Internet blogs, newspapers and television news.

"It's strange," Croslin said on a hot afternoon outside a church-run shelter in Palatka that for about five months has been home to him and his wife, Lisa.

Hank Croslin is the father of Misty Croslin, 18, who was the girlfriend, then wife and now ex-wife of Ronald Cummings, the father of Haleigh Cummings.

In February 2009, Haleigh disappeared while in the care of Misty Croslin and has not been seen since. The Putnam County Sheriff's Office now believes Haleigh is dead, and her case has been declared a homicide.

The case generated a rush of publicity. Pictures of Haleigh saturated the news. Video of a sobbing Ronald Cummings and tearful Misty were beamed across the nation on network news and such shows as HLN's "Nancy Grace."

But as more was learned about the families involved, some of the sympathy turned to suspicion. Authorities said Misty was giving inconsistent accounts. Speculation flew across the blogs.

Just when the story would enter a lull, someone would get into legal trouble - Hank Croslin was charged with doctor shopping for prescription narcotics, Lisa for forging a check, Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr. for various offenses, including drug possession.

Finally, in January, authorities arrested several family members on charges of trafficking prescription narcotics - Misty Croslin, Tommy Croslin, Ronald Cummings, a cousin of Cummings and a friend of Misty Croslin's.

Since then, Hank Croslin became a familiar face on "Nancy Grace," television news and in blogs, thanks to the release of videotapes of his visits with his children in the St. Johns County Jail.

Now, Hank Croslin said, he and his wife have become shunned figures in Palatka.

"Me and Lisa, we were both out of town when (Haleigh) come up missing, but everybody points the finger at us - there's the Croslins. When we were looking for a place - three or four places we were trying to rent - they didn't want us," he said. "It's just like the jobs. Nobody will give us a job in this town. I've worked since I was 15 years old. I've never been without work until now. I've always done good until now."

Lisa Croslin, who did not want to be interviewed for this story, also cannot find work, her husband said. She most often has had jobs in hotels and housekeeping and would like to move to St. Augustine, Hank Croslin said, because there are better job opportunities there.

But the couple cannot move because they do not have the money to pay off a combined $2,500 in court costs related to their cases, Hank Croslin said.

Hank Croslin said he has worked in the construction field most of his life and was making good money doing drywalling in Florida. He left his home state of Michigan at 16, moving to Tennessee, where he met Lisa Croslin. They married young - he was 17, and she was 16 - and lived in Tennessee for about 10 years before a more nomadic life that took the family to several states, including Florida.

While living in Flagler County, Tommy Croslin met his wife, Lindsy. Her grandfather owned property in Satsuma. They moved there, and eventually the rest of the Croslins followed.

Hank, Tommy and another of Hank's children, Timmy Croslin, got jobs from the same contractor.

Hank Croslin said things were going well. But then he was injured in a car crash involving a drunken driver that left him with serious injuries that required surgery.

Then, Haleigh disappeared.

"After I'd got healed up, Haleigh had happened, and that's when they [the contractor] got rid of all of us. Tommy was working for them, and Timmy was working for them. They just fired all of us," he said. "I wish we never came here."

Drug arrests and lots of publicity followed. Videotaped visits that Hank Croslin had with his children, which were released by the St. Johns County Jail, are a regular loop on the "Nancy Grace" show and are dissected in detail on blogs.

Hank Croslin now receives phone calls and letters from strangers.

"People call us all of the time - I don't know how they get the number. I just hang up on them," he said. "We have some people that write letters. They say they want to be (Misty's) friend."

Another person Hank hangs up on is his mother-in-law, Flora Hollars.

The Tennessee woman created her own media blitz when she said Tommy Croslin gave her details of events leading up to Haleigh's disappearance that implicated his cousin, Joseph Overstreet. Hollars made the rounds of the "Nancy Grace" and morning television shows. Some of what she said was shown to be false when Tommy Croslin's attorney released an audio recording of the conversation.

"I don't talk to none of them. If they call, I hang up on them. She went on TV and said some (stuff). We already have enough problems," he said. "But she's Lisa's mom, and she's not going to hang up on her. I don't have to like her."

Misty Croslin's attorney, Robert Fields, said he never anticipated the fallout the case has generated. Family members, Fields said, have become caught up in the rise of what he considers tabloid media - including bloggers and other Internet sites.

Fields characterized some of the blogs and other attention as "venomous" and done by people who have nothing better to to do with their lives.

"In looking at it objectively, (Hank and Lisa) did not directly create the situation, but Misty is partly a product of their parentship," Fields said. "They are public figures, but I don't think they put themselves out there. Misty put herself out there. It is interesting."

Putnam County Chamber of Commerce President Dana Cameron Jones said crimes against children and drug abuse are everywhere.

Jones said she does not believe the publicity from the Haleigh case and the subsequent troubles of the Croslins and Cummings have cast Putnam County in a negative light.

"The reason I don't feel like it is because these things are happening all over the country. These stories that come sometimes go quickly, and sometimes they linger, but there are just so many of them that the focus is like - Palatka, that's where that girl is from," Jones said. "I think the country has gotten so used to seeing this kind of thing all of the time.

"I just came back from a trip to three states and made it a point to tell people where I am from, and not a single person has mentioned it," Jones said.

Hank Croslin said he has no idea what is going to happen to Misty and Tommy - whom he described as good kids. He also doesn't know what will become of himself and Lisa. He would like for the family to one day be together.

"I grew up without a daddy. I'm not a perfect dad. My kids had a hard life," he said. "But we have always been close. They are my family."

Contact Cindy Swirko at 374-5024 or swirkoc@gvillesun.com.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100527/ARTICLES/5271047/1002?p=1&tc=pg


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on May 27, 2010, 08:54:30 AM
IMO

I'm sure it was just an example and not well thought out but....

I am not a catholic and got married in Las Vegas yet I believe my marriage is just as legal and binding as someone who got married in the catholic church.  Actually one of my best friends in high school got pregnant (oops) so they had a shotgun catholic wedding that lasted about 1 month.

I believe what Lindsey is doing is wrong and just another example why Haleigh never had a chance with ANY of these people.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on May 27, 2010, 08:59:48 AM
 ::HelloKitty::Heart,

Thank-you for the article on Hanky.
His stupid kids don't have a hard life, the children who lost their fathers to war have a hard life!
Who the heck is Hank telling us his kids "have a hard life"?
His stupid kids put hundreds of people through pain and suffering in the last year, not to mention a little child is still missing.
Hank and Lisa need to volunteer somewhere and then maybe they will earn respect for a job.
Boo-Hoo to Hank. They are  not good kids, they are good for nothing but rotten Bananas. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Magnolia on May 27, 2010, 09:11:19 AM
IMO

I'm sure it was just an example and not well thought out but....

I am not a catholic and got married in Las Vegas yet I believe my marriage is just as legal and binding as someone who got married in the catholic church.  Actually one of my best friends in high school got pregnant (oops) so they had a shotgun catholic wedding that lasted about 1 month.

I believe what Lindsey is doing is wrong and just another example why Haleigh never had a chance with ANY of these people.


I agree!

( Did you get married at the Elvis Chapel?)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: melisb on May 27, 2010, 09:16:48 AM
IMO

I'm sure it was just an example and not well thought out but....

I am not a catholic and got married in Las Vegas yet I believe my marriage is just as legal and binding as someone who got married in the catholic church.  Actually one of my best friends in high school got pregnant (oops) so they had a shotgun catholic wedding that lasted about 1 month.

I believe what Lindsey is doing is wrong and just another example why Haleigh never had a chance with ANY of these people.

In total agreement.  Klaas is that really Penny?  That doen't seem like her way of thinking.  Lindsy made it through LPN school and has a job and is on food stamps, so what?  That isn't the problem!  Being drug to jail to see Pops, having a Mom go crazy cuz whil Dad is away, multiple men in the home is a real problem.  That is, if it's all true!  Mom should be home holding the fort down and keeping the kids as normal as possible and sheilding them from all the talk of the town as much as she can.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Monkey with Class on May 27, 2010, 09:39:19 AM
::HelloKitty::Heart,

Thank-you for the article on Hanky.
His stupid kids don't have a hard life, the children who lost their fathers to war have a hard life!
Who the heck is Hank telling us his kids "have a hard life"?
His stupid kids put hundreds of people through pain and suffering in the last year, not to mention a little child is still missing.
Hank and Lisa need to volunteer somewhere and then maybe they will earn respect for a job.
Boo-Hoo to Hank. They are  not good kids, they are good for nothing but rotten Bananas. ::MonkeyTongue::

Very good idea.  If the Croslins read here, this would be a great way to show the community good faith.   If they were to volunteer, it would do many things.   It would provide an activity, that would keep their minds somewhat sane through this tragedy.  They wouldn't beat themselves up at the failures their kids are demonstrated.  It would also show that they are trying to better themselves.   It would pick their spirits up and the community will perhaps take notice.   In the meantime of volunteering, they would be helping others in some way.  I was always told, good things come to people whom do good things themselves.   Handouts should not be expected, but appreciated in the event everything is on the up and up.   Drugs would need to be completely out in their picture if they want to better themselves.  And as always....IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: TxLady2 on May 27, 2010, 09:42:50 AM
IMO

I'm sure it was just an example and not well thought out but....

I am not a catholic and got married in Las Vegas yet I believe my marriage is just as legal and binding as someone who got married in the catholic church.  Actually one of my best friends in high school got pregnant (oops) so they had a shotgun catholic wedding that lasted about 1 month.

I believe what Lindsey is doing is wrong and just another example why Haleigh never had a chance with ANY of these people.

I agree with you. There are other religions besides Catholic, too.
I think Lindsey should move on with her life, but it shouldn't require 4 nights a week to get her out of her doldrums. Once a week would be fine, she's a mother first and her kids should take priority, not her selfish needs to find a new man. Her kids need her a lot more than her boyfriends do. There should be a happy medium somewhere between being a "stay-at-home" mom and a slut. Not saying this is what she's doing, but where I come from, partying 4 or 5 nights a week would earn you that title... real quick.
Tommy might not be ideal as a husband but he IS those kids' father and they need some stability right now. She needs to spend time with them, let them know they're loved. Those kids have lost their daddy, they need to feel their mommy is there for them.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on May 27, 2010, 09:45:17 AM
IMO

I'm sure it was just an example and not well thought out but....

I am not a catholic and got married in Las Vegas yet I believe my marriage is just as legal and binding as someone who got married in the catholic church.  Actually one of my best friends in high school got pregnant (oops) so they had a shotgun catholic wedding that lasted about 1 month.

I believe what Lindsey is doing is wrong and just another example why Haleigh never had a chance with ANY of these people.

You hit the nail right on the head, Klaas! Haleigh was a victim from the day she was born in that environment! JMO!

BTW: I got married in a church, by an ordained minister. It should have happened in Vegas; at a big craps table.   :smt040


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on May 27, 2010, 09:51:48 AM
IMO

I'm sure it was just an example and not well thought out but....

I am not a catholic and got married in Las Vegas yet I believe my marriage is just as legal and binding as someone who got married in the catholic church.  Actually one of my best friends in high school got pregnant (oops) so they had a shotgun catholic wedding that lasted about 1 month.

I believe what Lindsey is doing is wrong and just another example why Haleigh never had a chance with ANY of these people.

You hit the nail right on the head, Klaas! Haleigh was a victim from the day she was born in that environment! JMO!

BTW: I got married in a church, by an ordained minister. It should have happened in Vegas; at a big craps table.   :smt040

 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on May 27, 2010, 10:02:37 AM
Maybe LE should hire this guy to solve the case! lol

TV mindreader let off jury duty - because court officials feared he may wreck trial
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/2010/05/27/tv-mindreader-let-off-jury-duty-because-court-officials-feared-he-may-wreck-trial-86908-22288948/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on May 27, 2010, 10:05:46 AM
Goodmorning Monkey's, I hope you are making the most out every minute of everyday:)  :flower:


Misty said it was the wrong dock searched, according to (NG) tapes last night.

Hanky should have responded "What is the right Dock Misty"? 

(IMO) Hank knows what Dock (is the right one) because he did not follow-up on a question, unless, LE edited that tape?

Boo Hoo to Hank, what a lump of nothing, shame of him, his kids have a hard life. They have no hearts or souls, rotten bananas!

The Wounded Warrior's have hard life's not his stupid kids.  ::MonkeyMad::





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 27, 2010, 10:13:25 AM
So now it is the wrong dock, has the right dock been pointed out? Or was this bs in a dream also?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 27, 2010, 10:20:30 AM
Love is not a feeling ... it is the act of the will!!

If Hank loves Tommy and Misty ... he has to bow out and let the justice system do what Lisa and him failed to do ... teach their children that there are consequences for choosing to defy the established legal and moral boundaries established by a civilized society ... boundaries established for well-being of all.  For the sake of the future generation of Croslins ... the cycle needs to stop.

++++++++

Reminder

ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL
Misty`s Grandmother Sheds Light on Haleigh`s Disappearance
Aired April 21, 2010 - 19:00:00   ET


FLORA HOLLARS: Tommy and Misty, their mom and dad were crackheads. And they stayed messed up on crack all the time. What time I didn`t have them, their grandmother in Michigan had them. Well, I had Misty. She had the other two.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/21/ijvm.01.html


Misty Croslin's mother arrested
Charges are unrelated to missing Haleigh Cummings
Updated: Sunday, 27 Sep 2009, 4:10 AM EDT
Published : Sunday, 27 Sep 2009, 4:10 AM EDT


NASHVILLE, Tenn. - (AP) -- Tennessee authorities have arrested the mother of a woman who was baby-sitting a Florida girl when she disappeared several months ago.

The Tennessean reports that Nashville police and Tennessee Bureau of Investigation agents arrested Lisa Croslin on a fugitive-from-justice warrant on Thursday. She was wanted by Florida authorities on forgery and theft charges.

Croslin is the mother of Misty Croslin-Cummings, who police say was the last person to see Haleigh Cummings, now 6, when she disappeared Feb. 10 from a mobile home in Putnam County, Fla.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/misty_croslin_mother_arrested_092709


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 27, 2010, 10:48:49 AM

<snipped>


BTW: I got married in a church, by an ordained minister. It should have happened in Vegas; at a big craps table.   :smt040

   ::MonkeyDevil::

CBB

Similar words came out of friend's mouth years ago following a divorce from her cheating husband.  I was shocked.  I had known this gal since seventh grade and did not have a clue that she harbored such thoughts.  She also informed me that if thoughts could kill ... her ex would be pushing up daisies today.

Thankfully ... she moved on and ... life has been good.  Hubby and I will be celebrating her 30th wedding anniversary with second hubby at a gathering this weekend ... a gathering hosted by her grown kids from first union.

Janet




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on May 27, 2010, 10:55:35 AM
So now it is the wrong dock, has the right dock been pointed out? Or was this bs in a dream also?

 :smt119 :smt119

I don't know No Rose  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Perhaps she is going to Zing RC with the "right Dock". 

Misty's memory is refreshed  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 27, 2010, 11:05:11 AM
So now it is the wrong dock, has the right dock been pointed out? Or was this bs in a dream also?

 :smt119 :smt119

I don't know No Rose  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Perhaps she is going to Zing RC with the "right Dock". 

Misty's memory is refreshed  ::MonkeyHaHa::
::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: O4Bull on May 27, 2010, 11:38:41 AM
Penny,
I have family members who have abused the welfare system.  There is the one cousin who had fake nails put on while there was no food in the pantry for her 4 (yes, FOUR) small children.  She is a highschool dropout and married another one.  These two had no business having 4 children because they could not support them.  Then, there is her sister who was widowed at 18 with a small child.  She remarried four years later but continued to get SS for herself (and her son, but that' s legal).  She defrauded the government for several years until they divorced and her ex turned her in.  I think welfare has it's place, but I get really furious when I hear how able bodied lazy @$$e$ take from the system which was intended to be a temporary relief, not a way of life.  This is a hot topic for me!  ::MonkeyMad::

Lindsy may be the best of this group, but honestly that doesn't take much to achieve.  I also disagree that she was SHOCKED that Tommy could be or is involved.  She may not have expected it, but it didn't shock her, IMO.  She knows who her husband is, he's been showing her for years.

all just my opinion, your mileage may vary  ::rhino::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 27, 2010, 11:43:18 AM
There is no doubt in my mind Lindsy is not shocked about the info, unless she was so shocked she decided to party on down  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: O4Bull on May 27, 2010, 11:47:54 AM
i got a question and i'm only half being a smart a$$ but....
if you are on foodstamps like a huge chunk of the country and not just trailer trash laid of hard workers etc... and you have a house guest or you host thanksgiving for a select few of you fam and friends are you trying to tell me you would tell them to bring their own food or that you would charge them for the meal and cut a check to uncle sam?
you wouldn't do either of those so i guess you would be defrauding the government or if your kids shares their lunch at school should someone report you? no
like i said i don't really believe any of that article but i didn't take it to mean she was stocking his house full of food...
our founding fathers granted us life liberty and the pursuit of happiness and foodstamps provide help to people that need it... we give it to the aliens so i think lindsay can have those rights as well... just saying

Well, since you asked  ::MonkeyJnBox::  I would not host a dinner if I relied on government assistance to do so.  I know that my family and friends wouldn't want me to take food from my children to feed them.  If one of my relatives who is on welfare invited me to dinner I wouldn't have to be asked to bring food, I'd just tell them what I was bringing.

I'm not against welfare, I'm against abuse of the program.  I think Lindsy has a family that cares for her and can help her.  I hope she betters herself and doesn't just bring another "Tommy" home. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 27, 2010, 11:50:40 AM
I hope Lindsy betters herself also and doesn't bring another Tommy home, but I will not take any bets on her doing that  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: O4Bull on May 27, 2010, 11:52:34 AM
There is no doubt in my mind Lindsy is not shocked about the info, unless she was so shocked she decided to party on down  ::MonkeyRoll::
exactly.  So shocked she gets her hoohoo pierced, her foot tatooed, goes to the beach, she's having "ugly coping" kinda like kc did.  No, she's not shocked, she's lived with him long enough to know what he's capable of.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 27, 2010, 11:55:04 AM
i got a question and i'm only half being a smart a$$ but....
if you are on foodstamps like a huge chunk of the country and not just trailer trash laid of hard workers etc... and you have a house guest or you host thanksgiving for a select few of you fam and friends are you trying to tell me you would tell them to bring their own food or that you would charge them for the meal and cut a check to uncle sam?
you wouldn't do either of those so i guess you would be defrauding the government or if your kids shares their lunch at school should someone report you? no
like i said i don't really believe any of that article but i didn't take it to mean she was stocking his house full of food...
our founding fathers granted us life liberty and the pursuit of happiness and foodstamps provide help to people that need it... we give it to the aliens so i think lindsay can have those rights as well... just saying

Well, since you asked  ::MonkeyJnBox::  I would not host a dinner if I relied on government assistance to do so.  I know that my family and friends wouldn't want me to take food from my children to feed them.  If one of my relatives who is on welfare invited me to dinner I wouldn't have to be asked to bring food, I'd just tell them what I was bringing.

I'm not against welfare, I'm against abuse of the program.  I think Lindsy has a family that cares for her and can help her.  I hope she betters herself and doesn't just bring another "Tommy" home. 

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2010, 11:58:25 AM
So now it is the wrong dock, has the right dock been pointed out? Or was this bs in a dream also?
If MC did put in the letter that it was the wrong dock that LE had searched, how does she know that?

Did not Tommy take LE to the dock prior to MC being escorted there, or do I have that wrong, or did AH have it wrong?

If it was the wrong dock, who is trying to mislead LE, Tommy, Misty, or both?

And then there is Chelsea that said she was asking for an area off Hwy 309 to be searched.

I wonder if these people were too drugged up to remember exactly what happened that night. But I can't buy that because although MC looked like she had been rode hard and put away wet, she just did not appear to be that drugged out here (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-_MVCBryU6w/SpZOVSJ4-fI/AAAAAAAADpo/ipX7TqYwwzY/s320/Misty+Croslin.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 27, 2010, 12:05:17 PM
There is no doubt in my mind Lindsy is not shocked about the info, unless she was so shocked she decided to party on down  ::MonkeyRoll::
exactly.  So shocked she gets her hoohoo pierced, her foot tatooed, goes to the beach, she's having "ugly coping" kinda like kc did.  No, she's not shocked, she's lived with him long enough to know what he's capable of.
I agree, she knows all about the Croslins, no surprise.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 27, 2010, 12:06:22 PM
So now it is the wrong dock, has the right dock been pointed out? Or was this bs in a dream also?
If MC did put in the letter that it was the wrong dock that LE had searched, how does she know that?

Did not Tommy take LE to the dock prior to MC being escorted there, or do I have that wrong, or did AH have it wrong?

If it was the wrong dock, who is trying to mislead LE, Tommy, Misty, or both?

And then there is Chelsea that said she was asking for an area off Hwy 309 to be searched.

I wonder if these people were too drugged up to remember exactly what happened that night. But I can't buy that because although MC looked like she had been rode hard and put away wet, she just did not appear to be that drugged out here (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-_MVCBryU6w/SpZOVSJ4-fI/AAAAAAAADpo/ipX7TqYwwzY/s320/Misty+Croslin.jpg)

I'm going with all drugged up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2010, 12:11:18 PM
So now it is the wrong dock, has the right dock been pointed out? Or was this bs in a dream also?
If MC did put in the letter that it was the wrong dock that LE had searched, how does she know that?

Did not Tommy take LE to the dock prior to MC being escorted there, or do I have that wrong, or did AH have it wrong?

If it was the wrong dock, who is trying to mislead LE, Tommy, Misty, or both?

And then there is Chelsea that said she was asking for an area off Hwy 309 to be searched.

I wonder if these people were too drugged up to remember exactly what happened that night. But I can't buy that because although MC looked like she had been rode hard and put away wet, she just did not appear to be that drugged out here (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-_MVCBryU6w/SpZOVSJ4-fI/AAAAAAAADpo/ipX7TqYwwzY/s320/Misty+Croslin.jpg)

I'm going with all drugged up.
Looks like oh holy chit, I'm in trouble now, how the hell am I gonna get out of this.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Love2Read on May 27, 2010, 12:18:16 PM
i don't believe 95% of that bs article but if it is true that her son is in counseling it prob has more to do with what his "dad" did then if he saw a black guy in mommy's bed


I am wondering if maybe Lindsy knew this guy before Haleigh went missing and THIS is the black guy Jr. saw that night.  Just thinking out loud here. I think Lindsy and Chelsea and Timmy  know a whole lot more than they are letting on and I wouldn't be surprised if Lindsy isn't acting out like this because she knows her days of freedom may me numbered too.

Lindsy may be a step above the Croslins, but only one itty bitty step.  She is just as trashy as they are.  Any woman that gets a piercing while her husband is in jail is trash in my book.
I hope DCF takes a long hard look at her.  IMO

Oh, Good morning Monkeys.  Hope everyone is having a good day.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 27, 2010, 12:18:34 PM
From what I could understand, seems that Tommy supposedly took LE out to that dock first... (like on Sunday?)  Then on Monday, supposedly Misty took LE out to the same dock. 

Also seems to me that 'if' it was the 'wrong dock' that Misty would have either noticed that while she was standing out there....... or took LE to the 'right dock' in the first place.  Once standing at that dock, looking down into the water, seems that Misty would have said.. 'oh wait a minute, it wasn't here, it was up a ways... or down a ways'.  Had this 'really' happened to me, the location would have been burned into my mind, dark night or otherwise.  Of course, that's a mind not addled with drugs tho, which could be the main problem with Misty 'not being able to remember a dayum thing'. 

My question at this point is:
Did LE take Tommy and then Misty 'to' that dock... or did Tommy and then Misty, seperately and independently of each other, take LE 'to' that dock??  Who led who? 


 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2010, 12:24:18 PM
Sorry for this being a bit O/T.  But I want to clarify something regarding public assistance or known as welfare.

Years ago my sister had a neighbor who's hubby had worked hard for years...raising a family as well.  They had put a considerable amount of funds into savings.  Disaster struck with illness and they had to use every penny saved.  Which then brought them up to the public assistance program temporarily until a recovery.

During this assistance time, my sister and her neighbors would each spend $5.00 a week and purchase an item to give to the neighbor ...maybe bag of flour, sugar, potatoes, etc....  Which was more than appreciated by her neighbor.

The blast came when the welfare lady paid her a visit a few days before the checks came out.  Asked if she got hers first ...NO why do you ask that. Well, I noticed all of the groceries by the door.  The lady explained that her neighbors were all helping them out and each sent over extra items weekly.  The public assistance lady asked her ..DID YOU REPORT THIS TO THE WELFARE OFFICE???  aHHH...  NO!!!  I did not was the response ... well, she calculated the value of the items and sent it to welfare, and they ...DEDUCTED THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM HER CHECK. 

Replying as to the comment about having a family dinner and inviting guests.  I am sure that they would ...not appreciate the sharing of family food.  And if you bring your own, well you get the picture how they feel about that. 





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: flutter1 on May 27, 2010, 12:27:01 PM
IMO

I'm sure it was just an example and not well thought out but....

I am not a catholic and got married in Las Vegas yet I believe my marriage is just as legal and binding as someone who got married in the catholic church.  Actually one of my best friends in high school got pregnant (oops) so they had a shotgun catholic wedding that lasted about 1 month.

I believe what Lindsey is doing is wrong and just another example why Haleigh never had a chance with ANY of these people.

You hit the nail right on the head, Klaas! Haleigh was a victim from the day she was born in that environment! JMO!

BTW: I got married in a church, by an ordained minister. It should have happened in Vegas; at a big craps table.   :smt040

O/T -- I got married in a bar on New Year's Day 32 years ago.  It isn't the ceremony or the setting, it is the commitment that the two people have to each other once the "I do's" are said. 

The Croslin/Cummings have no commitment to anyone but themselves.  They are the "me, me" types that would take whatever they could from anyone they could to get whatever they feel that they are entitled to. 

Children of these sperm and egg donors don't have children, they produce unwanted liabilities.  And they do so for all the wrong reasons.

Poor Haleigh, Caylee and all the others that I could list.  They truly never had a chance. :smt065



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2010, 12:29:20 PM
From what I could understand, seems that Tommy supposedly took LE out to that dock first... (like on Sunday?)  Then on Monday, supposedly Misty took LE out to the same dock. 

Also seems to me that 'if' it was the 'wrong dock' that Misty would have either noticed that while she was standing out there....... or took LE to the 'right dock' in the first place.  Once standing at that dock, looking down into the water, seems that Misty would have said.. 'oh wait a minute, it wasn't here, it was up a ways... or down a ways'.  Had this 'really' happened to me, the location would have been burned into my mind, dark night or otherwise.  Of course, that's a mind not addled with drugs tho, which could be the main problem with Misty 'not being able to remember a dayum thing'. 

My question at this point is:
Did LE take Tommy and then Misty 'to' that dock... or did Tommy and then Misty, seperately and independently of each other, take LE 'to' that dock??  Who led who? 


 

Sure makes one begin to wonder just what is going on with communication .... how is some of this .. double stuff ... same from Misty and Tommy ... same dock location ...same conversation spoken to Gr Hollars.....just who is  passing on info to the other.  If they are both SO ACCURATE...why has it taken BOTH OF THEM ...over ONE YEAR ..TO RCALL THESE INCIDENTS AND PLACES.  I can see maybe one of them ...not remembering, but it sure doesn't appear to be this way at all.   Someone is  passing  info .... IMO. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 27, 2010, 01:01:41 PM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1005/26/ng.01.html

ART HARRIS, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST: This letter, Nancy, comes from Misty Croslin to her sister-in-law, Chelsea. And in it, she says that the police have searched the wrong dock, that Tommy took her to another dock nearby, and that`s where he and Joe allegedly threw the body off of little Haleigh.

Now, her lawyer tells me, Robert Fields, that he thinks she`s confused, that they were walking down a road about a month before they were arrested when Tommy revealed where the body was dumped. He thinks that his client may be confused. But still, she says in this letter that the police, she believes, are searching on the wrong dock.



On another topic that was brought up here, it is not true that "more than half of Americans are on them." There are more people in the Food Stamp program now than ever, but the number is around 1 in 8, or 12.5 %.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2010, 01:07:18 PM
# Art Harris Says:
May 27th, 2010 at 12:41 am

OC–

Hank was the one who had to bless the marriage when she was underage, and did because he told me he couldn’t control her, worried about the company she was keeping, sneaking out all the time and lying to him, and just threw up his hands, a father with a helpless feeling. “I just thought she’d be safer with Ronald,” he told me, “but now I regret making that decision…I didn’t know him very well…” art

http://www.artharris.com/2010/05/26/misty-croslin-dad-trash-the-bald-truth/#comment-47752


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 27, 2010, 01:09:25 PM
From what I could understand, seems that Tommy supposedly took LE out to that dock first... (like on Sunday?)  Then on Monday, supposedly Misty took LE out to the same dock. 

Also seems to me that 'if' it was the 'wrong dock' that Misty would have either noticed that while she was standing out there....... or took LE to the 'right dock' in the first place.  Once standing at that dock, looking down into the water, seems that Misty would have said.. 'oh wait a minute, it wasn't here, it was up a ways... or down a ways'.  Had this 'really' happened to me, the location would have been burned into my mind, dark night or otherwise.  Of course, that's a mind not addled with drugs tho, which could be the main problem with Misty 'not being able to remember a dayum thing'. 

My question at this point is:
Did LE take Tommy and then Misty 'to' that dock... or did Tommy and then Misty, seperately and independently of each other, take LE 'to' that dock??  Who led who? 


 

Sure makes one begin to wonder just what is going on with communication .... how is some of this .. double stuff ... same from Misty and Tommy ... same dock location ...same conversation spoken to Gr Hollars.....just who is  passing on info to the other.  If they are both SO ACCURATE...why has it taken BOTH OF THEM ...over ONE YEAR ..TO RCALL THESE INCIDENTS AND PLACES.  I can see maybe one of them ...not remembering, but it sure doesn't appear to be this way at all.   Someone is  passing  info .... IMO. 

I agree, Grama!  Wonder how many phone calls we haven't heard about yet.  Either that, or info was exchanged and stories gotten straight - as in plan a, b, and c - before the drug arrests. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 27, 2010, 01:15:03 PM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1005/26/ng.01.html

ART HARRIS, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST: This letter, Nancy, comes from Misty Croslin to her sister-in-law, Chelsea. And in it, she says that the police have searched the wrong dock, that Tommy took her to another dock nearby, and that`s where he and Joe allegedly threw the body off of little Haleigh.

Now, her lawyer tells me, Robert Fields, that he thinks she`s confused, that they were walking down a road about a month before they were arrested when Tommy revealed where the body was dumped. He thinks that his client may be confused. But still, she says in this letter that the police, she believes, are searching on the wrong dock.



On another topic that was brought up here, it is not true that "more than half of Americans are on them." There are more people in the Food Stamp program now than ever, but the number is around 1 in 8, or 12.5 %.


Thanks Brandi, ironically just saw this online.    The U.S. is now spending more on food assistance than at any time in its history, sparking a debate over whether the roughly 40 million people now receiving the latest version of food stamps at a cost of $73 billion a year are a symptom of a weak economy or are part of a long-term expansion in welfare and related programs.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on May 27, 2010, 01:21:23 PM
# Art Harris Says:
May 27th, 2010 at 12:41 am

OC–

Hank was the one who had to bless the marriage when she was underage, and did because he told me he couldn’t control her, worried about the company she was keeping, sneaking out all the time and lying to him, and just threw up his hands, a father with a helpless feeling. “I just thought she’d be safer with Ronald,” he told me, “but now I regret making that decision…I didn’t know him very well…” art

http://www.artharris.com/2010/05/26/misty-croslin-dad-trash-the-bald-truth/#comment-47752


Hanky wanted to get the kid off his hands, he is a creep as a father. 

Hank should be looking for Haleigh, he has so much free time.

Misty "Baby" has no fear, at 15 she ran off with her boyfriend to New Jersey, not in my dreams would I try that!




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2010, 01:23:06 PM
# Happytobehere48 Says:
May 26th, 2010 at 11:04 pm

Was this tape before or after Misty called Flora saying Joe and Tommy took Haleigh to the river? Why does Tommy say he wasn’t there that night but knew where to take LE to the river? Then, wasn’t it Misty who said she thought it was the wrong dock? Can’t believe a word she says. Misty sure perked up when she heard about the letter didn’t she? She has to know LE reads them. When talking about Tommy being, mad at her she tells Hank she’s going to keep writing and tell Tommy to keep writing. Is Hank passing messages in the tapes? Misty was sure backpeddling, blaming everything she has said about Tommy and Joe on LE when she was confronted by Hank. She never takes responsibilty, not even for her own words. Are we ever going to hear exactly what’s in the letter? It has been talked about but no details. With hours of tape i was a bit disappointed we saw so many repeat clips, sure wish we could see what you guys do. As a regular poster i can say with certainty Misty has never been called a lesbian here, that is a fact.
http://www.artharris.com/2010/05/26/misty-croslin-dad-trash-the-bald-truth/#comment-47740

# Art Harris Says:

May 27th, 2010 at 12:36 am

Happy–Thank you for that. Maybe Hank will read your response, or the blogger will tell him, and admit she made it up or got it wrong for whatever reason. Tx Art
http://www.artharris.com/2010/05/26/misty-croslin-dad-trash-the-bald-truth/#comment-47751

Do any of you guys know or have any idea who this blogger is that is being referred to?

And who is the person named Deb that Hank said told him?  Are they one and the same?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on May 27, 2010, 01:24:43 PM
I hope Lindsy betters herself also and doesn't bring another Tommy home, but I will not take any bets on her doing that  ::MonkeyNoNo::

or any Bugs


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2010, 01:28:51 PM
Report: Misty Croslin's dad describes his 'scary life'

Hank Croslin says in news story: 'I grew up without a daddy. I'm not a perfect dad. My kids had a hard life.'

The father of the young woman who was watching Haleigh Cummings before she vanished in February 2009 in Putman County says everything went downhill after the disappearance, according to a news report.

Hank Croslin and his wife, Lisa, are living in church-run shelter in Palatka, according to Ocala.com.

The construction contractor he was working for fired him after the girl vanished because people blamed his daughter, Misty Croslin, who was babysitting Haleigh the night she disappeared.

"Me and Lisa, we were both out of town when (Haleigh) come up missing, but everybody points the finger at us. ... When we were looking for a place - three or four places we were trying to rent - they didn't want us," Hank Croslin said, according to Ocala.com.

Authorities think Haleigh is dead, even though a body has not been found, and they are treating the case as a homicide investigation.

No one has been charged. Misty is in jail on drug charges.

"I grew up without a daddy. I'm not a perfect dad. My kids had a hard life," he said, according to Ocala.com. "But we have always been close. They are my family."

To read the story, click here: http://www.ocala.com/article/20100527/ARTICLES/5271011/1402/NEWS%3Fp=all%26tc=pgall%26tc=ar

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-haleigh-cummings-misty-croslin-dad20100527,0,2919029.story


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: AZSunny on May 27, 2010, 01:37:24 PM
There is no doubt in my mind Lindsy is not shocked about the info, unless she was so shocked she decided to party on down  ::MonkeyRoll::

IMO...a mother with 3 small children to care for alone, has no business partying 4 nights a week.  I don't care if the children are provided babysitting care or not, nor do I care that she is young and 'now free'.  Her priorities are very screwed up.  I can see her going out with girlfriends one night a week, but hitting the party scene is not the example she should be setting for her children. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2010, 01:41:23 PM
From what I could understand, seems that Tommy supposedly took LE out to that dock first... (like on Sunday?)  Then on Monday, supposedly Misty took LE out to the same dock. 

Also seems to me that 'if' it was the 'wrong dock' that Misty would have either noticed that while she was standing out there....... or took LE to the 'right dock' in the first place.  Once standing at that dock, looking down into the water, seems that Misty would have said.. 'oh wait a minute, it wasn't here, it was up a ways... or down a ways'.  Had this 'really' happened to me, the location would have been burned into my mind, dark night or otherwise.  Of course, that's a mind not addled with drugs tho, which could be the main problem with Misty 'not being able to remember a dayum thing'. 

My question at this point is:
Did LE take Tommy and then Misty 'to' that dock... or did Tommy and then Misty, seperately and independently of each other, take LE 'to' that dock??  Who led who? 


 

Sure makes one begin to wonder just what is going on with communication .... how is some of this .. double stuff ... same from Misty and Tommy ... same dock location ...same conversation spoken to Gr Hollars.....just who is  passing on info to the other.  If they are both SO ACCURATE...why has it taken BOTH OF THEM ...over ONE YEAR ..TO RCALL THESE INCIDENTS AND PLACES.  I can see maybe one of them ...not remembering, but it sure doesn't appear to be this way at all.   Someone is  passing  info .... IMO. 

I agree, Grama!  Wonder how many phone calls we haven't heard about yet.  Either that, or info was exchanged and stories gotten straight - as in plan a, b, and c - before the drug arrests. 


Wyks I think they are into the AAA, BBB, CCC, right now ... I have never heard so many side roads ever even existed until the players in this case began to open their yapppppsss.  Sure makes one feel a bit stupid, at least to me it does... we have undeducated, unemployed, druggies running their mouths and still we have NOT ONE SOLID BIT OF EVIDENCE .... Nor know if HaLeigh is missing, has been abducted, whether HaLeigh is deceased or whether HaLeigh is ALIVE.

Strange as it all appears ..... this appears to be the happenings.  How can these type of people ... pull the blankets over all of this and have ALL of the BLOGGERS, FBI, PCSO FDLE ... scratching .....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 27, 2010, 01:44:51 PM
GramaMonkey, you summed it up perfect, How can these type of people ... pull the blankets over all of this and have ALL of the BLOGGERS, FBI, PCSO FDLE ... scratching .....  ::MonkeyNoNo::  I don't have the slightest idea.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 27, 2010, 02:03:51 PM
From what I could understand, seems that Tommy supposedly took LE out to that dock first... (like on Sunday?)  Then on Monday, supposedly Misty took LE out to the same dock. 

Also seems to me that 'if' it was the 'wrong dock' that Misty would have either noticed that while she was standing out there....... or took LE to the 'right dock' in the first place.  Once standing at that dock, looking down into the water, seems that Misty would have said.. 'oh wait a minute, it wasn't here, it was up a ways... or down a ways'.  Had this 'really' happened to me, the location would have been burned into my mind, dark night or otherwise.  Of course, that's a mind not addled with drugs tho, which could be the main problem with Misty 'not being able to remember a dayum thing'. 

My question at this point is:
Did LE take Tommy and then Misty 'to' that dock... or did Tommy and then Misty, seperately and independently of each other, take LE 'to' that dock??  Who led who? 


 

Sure makes one begin to wonder just what is going on with communication .... how is some of this .. double stuff ... same from Misty and Tommy ... same dock location ...same conversation spoken to Gr Hollars.....just who is  passing on info to the other.  If they are both SO ACCURATE...why has it taken BOTH OF THEM ...over ONE YEAR ..TO RCALL THESE INCIDENTS AND PLACES.  I can see maybe one of them ...not remembering, but it sure doesn't appear to be this way at all.   Someone is  passing  info .... IMO. 

I agree, Grama!  Wonder how many phone calls we haven't heard about yet.  Either that, or info was exchanged and stories gotten straight - as in plan a, b, and c - before the drug arrests. 


Wyks I think they are into the AAA, BBB, CCC, right now ... I have never heard so many side roads ever even existed until the players in this case began to open their yapppppsss.  Sure makes one feel a bit stupid, at least to me it does... we have undeducated, unemployed, druggies running their mouths and still we have NOT ONE SOLID BIT OF EVIDENCE .... Nor know if HaLeigh is missing, has been abducted, whether HaLeigh is deceased or whether HaLeigh is ALIVE.

Strange as it all appears ..... this appears to be the happenings.  How can these type of people ... pull the blankets over all of this and have ALL of the BLOGGERS, FBI, PCSO FDLE ... scratching .....

Exactly!  All that you've said!  I know that I'm more confused than ever, think of how LE must be feeling, having to sort thru this mess. 

I still say throw em ALL in jail, put them in the same room, let the fireworks begin.  LE might get some truths then. 

IMO.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2010, 02:05:50 PM
GramaMonkey, you summed it up perfect, How can these type of people ... pull the blankets over all of this and have ALL of the BLOGGERS, FBI, PCSO FDLE ... scratching .....  ::MonkeyNoNo::  I don't have the slightest idea.

NRCG - I think YOU, and all of the others along with myself know the answer to all of this.

LIES, LIES AND MORE LIES.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on May 27, 2010, 02:06:38 PM
From what I could understand, seems that Tommy supposedly took LE out to that dock first... (like on Sunday?)  Then on Monday, supposedly Misty took LE out to the same dock. 

Also seems to me that 'if' it was the 'wrong dock' that Misty would have either noticed that while she was standing out there....... or took LE to the 'right dock' in the first place.  Once standing at that dock, looking down into the water, seems that Misty would have said.. 'oh wait a minute, it wasn't here, it was up a ways... or down a ways'.  Had this 'really' happened to me, the location would have been burned into my mind, dark night or otherwise.  Of course, that's a mind not addled with drugs tho, which could be the main problem with Misty 'not being able to remember a dayum thing'. 

My question at this point is:
Did LE take Tommy and then Misty 'to' that dock... or did Tommy and then Misty, seperately and independently of each other, take LE 'to' that dock??  Who led who? 


 

Sure makes one begin to wonder just what is going on with communication .... how is some of this .. double stuff ... same from Misty and Tommy ... same dock location ...same conversation spoken to Gr Hollars.....just who is  passing on info to the other.  If they are both SO ACCURATE...why has it taken BOTH OF THEM ...over ONE YEAR ..TO RCALL THESE INCIDENTS AND PLACES.  I can see maybe one of them ...not remembering, but it sure doesn't appear to be this way at all.   Someone is  passing  info .... IMO. 

I agree, Grama!  Wonder how many phone calls we haven't heard about yet.  Either that, or info was exchanged and stories gotten straight - as in plan a, b, and c - before the drug arrests. 


Wyks I think they are into the AAA, BBB, CCC, right now ... I have never heard so many side roads ever even existed until the players in this case began to open their yapppppsss.  Sure makes one feel a bit stupid, at least to me it does... we have undeducated, unemployed, druggies running their mouths and still we have NOT ONE SOLID BIT OF EVIDENCE .... Nor know if HaLeigh is missing, has been abducted, whether HaLeigh is deceased or whether HaLeigh is ALIVE.

Strange as it all appears ..... this appears to be the happenings.  How can these type of people ... pull the blankets over all of this and have ALL of the BLOGGERS, FBI, PCSO FDLE ... scratching .....

Misty knew it was the 'wrong Dock" the night she was standing with the flustrated Detectives. She will remember more when
RC points the trigger at her, so to speak.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Does anyone think the Croslins took photos of Haleigh that fateful night?  They all have the handy-dandy cellphones, they all
have dark side to them, I bet they tooks photos, please do not throw Banana  peels at me.  I am just saying that type of
person who could do a crime usually likes to have a portfolio.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 27, 2010, 02:10:02 PM
GramaMonkey, you summed it up perfect, How can these type of people ... pull the blankets over all of this and have ALL of the BLOGGERS, FBI, PCSO FDLE ... scratching .....  ::MonkeyNoNo::  I don't have the slightest idea.

NRCG - I think YOU, and all of the others along with myself know the answer to all of this.

LIES, LIES AND MORE LIES.
Exactly  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Miss Lacey on May 27, 2010, 02:12:58 PM
::HelloKitty::Heart,

Thank-you for the article on Hanky.
His stupid kids don't have a hard life, the children who lost their fathers to war have a hard life!
Who the heck is Hank telling us his kids "have a hard life"?
His stupid kids put hundreds of people through pain and suffering in the last year, not to mention a little child is still missing.
Hank and Lisa need to volunteer somewhere and then maybe they will earn respect for a job.
Boo-Hoo to Hank. They are  not good kids, they are good for nothing but rotten Bananas. ::MonkeyTongue::

Not to mention the cost that has gone into his kids' lie detector tests, searches, lawyers, jail time, court costs, etc., etc., etc. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2010, 02:13:25 PM
NOW is the time to pull them all in again, one by one, and start from the beginning.  Let's see how many more stories they can come up with and how many more contradictions of their previous statements.

I really and truly mean this when I say that if they were all standing on the highway with their thumbs up looking for a ride... the ONLY one that I would pick up would be Hank Sr.

I know he isn't the best ... but to me he is the BEST OF THAT BUNCH. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 27, 2010, 02:15:57 PM

Is the End for Misty and Company Near?

Thursday, May 27, 2010

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/05/is-end-for-misty-and-company-near.html (http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/05/is-end-for-misty-and-company-near.html)

It very well may nearing the beginning of the end for the Misty Croslin crew.

Here is why:

The first shot fired was the sentencing of Hope Sykes. This young teen received a stunning sentence of 15 years in prison for her part of the prescription drug dealing even though she appeared in the video as a "bit role"; not nearly as prominent as Ronald and Misty. (Anyone else notice how lucid and quick thinking Misty appeared to be on the police video which is in stark contrast to her jail appearances? For long term abuse, this is an indicator that while in the car, she was under the influence).

Hope Sykes will be in prison for what many people believe to be the prime years of life; the years when a child becomes an adult, concludes education, seeks employment, marries and begins to raise a family of her own. If she serves her full sentence, she will spend these precious years in prison; years when many Americans graduate from college, work full time, marry, and have their children, take videos and enjoy the American dream. Hope will be 33 years old when her sentence concludes and will have missed those things that are enjoyed by many. It is tragic. It is sad to me when I see youngsters, who, by age 10, for instance, have never been made to do their homework, nor chores, and know little outside of television. They don't read, they play video games. The dedicated teachers have terrible frustration knowing that if they cannot enlist the parents' help in forming responsible habits, the life awaiting the 10 year old may prove bleak.

Societies that have prospered have been those that reward production. Societies that award being stagnate and eventually fail.

When I was a boy, a trophy was rewarded for striving for excellence and obtaining. Today, a trophy is often rewarded for showing up or "maintaining a pulse".

Hope Sykes never had a chance.

Not that this dismisses responsibility, nor does it cast blame on society. As a parent, if I choose to abdicate my responsibilities my children will also fail. They will not have a chance in life, either.

The same is seen in the Croslin clan. Misty's parents worked hard at avoiding work and avoiding responsibility and it may be that mom, dad, brothers and sister will all, collectively, be in prison. I can almost feel the frustration of Misty's kindergarten teacher, who begged Lisa to read to Misty, but all Lisa was interested in was her next high. Misty joked that her parents were both nicknamed "crackhead". It isn't funny.

Ronald Cummings wasn't raised by his mother; but was removed from her care.

No matter how offended Nancy Grace was recently in her defense of Ronald, Ronald lied about domestic violence and drugs in the hours after Misty went missing. Ronald and Misty are facing LONG sentences in connection to the drug trafficking. Ronald would LOVE to have only 15 years.

Is a deal in the making?

Tommy is also scared. He is not only facing a long time in prison, he placed himself at the crime scene which is now characterized as a homicide investigation.

Let's Make a Deal is about to begin.

However, there is an additional element that may throw it all into chaos:

A Grand Jury convened to get answers.

Remember, there is much we don't know that has been redacted (the early calls) as well as the Ronald interviews and polygraphs.

I think a Grand Jury is soon to be called and I expect indictments to be handed down in the disappearance and death of Haleigh Cummings.

I expect a Grand Jury to be convened soon.

We are reaching the crossroads:

Misty has changed her story repeatedly, including the "wrong river" story.
Tommy has changed his story repeatedly, including he was there, he was not there. His lawyer said that Tommy knows that Haleigh died there.
Ronald is rumored to have made a deal for 15 years. 15 years? He is "settling" for 15 years? Since it appears that the video tape that the undercover police have settles all question of guilt or innocence, and there are mandatory minimum sentence guidelines, the
PROSECUTION HAS NO NEED TO BARGAIN, that is, in the drug dealing case.

However, 16 months with no resolution on the Haleigh Cummings case appears to motivate them for a deal.
This means Ronald knows. It is something Statement Analysis shows clearly:

Ronald knows.

Apparently, Ronald knows something of such value that prosecution is wiling to make a deal when they have little need to make a deal. This speaks to the value of the information.

Ronald's court date is in July (see comments section for details)

I think a Grand Jury may be called very close to the date of Ronald's court date.

Is the end for Misty and company approaching?

Posted by Seamus O Riley at 8:14 AM



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Miss Lacey on May 27, 2010, 02:18:52 PM
So now it is the wrong dock, has the right dock been pointed out? Or was this bs in a dream also?
If MC did put in the letter that it was the wrong dock that LE had searched, how does she know that?

Did not Tommy take LE to the dock prior to MC being escorted there, or do I have that wrong, or did AH have it wrong?

If it was the wrong dock, who is trying to mislead LE, Tommy, Misty, or both?

And then there is Chelsea that said she was asking for an area off Hwy 309 to be searched.

I wonder if these people were too drugged up to remember exactly what happened that night. But I can't buy that because although MC looked like she had been rode hard and put away wet, she just did not appear to be that drugged out here (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-_MVCBryU6w/SpZOVSJ4-fI/AAAAAAAADpo/ipX7TqYwwzY/s320/Misty+Croslin.jpg)

I'm going with all drugged up.
Looks like oh holy chit, I'm in trouble now, how the hell am I gonna get out of this.

Looks to me like she's concocting another lie inside her tiny little brain.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Miss Lacey on May 27, 2010, 02:22:29 PM
IMO

I'm sure it was just an example and not well thought out but....

I am not a catholic and got married in Las Vegas yet I believe my marriage is just as legal and binding as someone who got married in the catholic church.  Actually one of my best friends in high school got pregnant (oops) so they had a shotgun catholic wedding that lasted about 1 month.

I believe what Lindsey is doing is wrong and just another example why Haleigh never had a chance with ANY of these people.

You hit the nail right on the head, Klaas! Haleigh was a victim from the day she was born in that environment! JMO!

BTW: I got married in a church, by an ordained minister. It should have happened in Vegas; at a big craps table.   :smt040

O/T -- I got married in a bar on New Year's Day 32 years ago.  It isn't the ceremony or the setting, it is the commitment that the two people have to each other once the "I do's" are said. 

The Croslin/Cummings have no commitment to anyone but themselves.  They are the "me, me" types that would take whatever they could from anyone they could to get whatever they feel that they are entitled to. 

Children of these sperm and egg donors don't have children, they produce unwanted liabilities.  And they do so for all the wrong reasons.

Poor Haleigh, Caylee and all the others that I could list.  They truly never had a chance. :smt065



Sad but true. :2doh:


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Miss Lacey on May 27, 2010, 02:25:45 PM
# Art Harris Says:
May 27th, 2010 at 12:41 am

OC–

Hank was the one who had to bless the marriage when she was underage, and did because he told me he couldn’t control her, worried about the company she was keeping, sneaking out all the time and lying to him, and just threw up his hands, a father with a helpless feeling. “I just thought she’d be safer with Ronald,” he told me, “but now I regret making that decision…I didn’t know him very well…” art

http://www.artharris.com/2010/05/26/misty-croslin-dad-trash-the-bald-truth/#comment-47752

You see Hank, you can't possibly control a 17-year-old when she wasn't parented as a 7-year-old!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Miss Lacey on May 27, 2010, 02:27:31 PM
There is no doubt in my mind Lindsy is not shocked about the info, unless she was so shocked she decided to party on down  ::MonkeyRoll::

IMO...a mother with 3 small children to care for alone, has no business partying 4 nights a week.  I don't care if the children are provided babysitting care or not, nor do I care that she is young and 'now free'.  Her priorities are very screwed up.  I can see her going out with girlfriends one night a week, but hitting the party scene is not the example she should be setting for her children. 

I would LOVE to hear Dr. Laura's take on this situation. :) 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 27, 2010, 02:33:51 PM
Thanks Wyks


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on May 27, 2010, 02:42:28 PM
I know this is off topic but it deals with children and parents who deal drugs. This came in my email and happened where I live, I receive regular emails from the police department on crimes in my area.



Advisory Message has been issued by the Modesto Police Department.

Thursday May 27, 2010 11:20 AM PDT

MODESTO POLICE ARREST MOM FOR SELLING DRUGS, WHILE HER CHILD WAITED IN THE CAR

Modesto, CA- Modesto Police Narcotic Officers arrested a drug dealing mom for selling drugs in front of undercover agents.  The suspect had her 9-year old daughter and a 14-year old child in the car as she made the drug deal.

On May 25th at about 3 p.m., investigators from the Modesto Police Narcotics Enforcement Team observed Amber Sesto, a 31-year old Modesto resident, sitting in her parked car in a shopping center parking lot at Coffee Road and Floyd Avenue.  Officers watched as Brandon Martin, a 20-year old Modesto resident, approached Sesto, got into her car, and bought a large amount of Oxycontin pills from her.  Oxycontin pills are a very addictive opiate type drug, which has the same effect as heroin when abused.  Their street value is about $30 a pill and according to narcotic officers, this drug is becoming popular among teen and young adult users.

Once the drug deal was made, officers were able to arrest both Sesto and Martin without incident.  Officers discovered Sesto had her 9-year old daughter and her daughter’s 14-year old friend in the car when the drug deal took place.  Investigators arrested Sesto for child endangerment and possession for sales of illegal drugs.  Martin was arrested for possession for sales of illegal drugs.  As officers were questioning Martin, they noticed his cell phone was continuously ringing.  The officers posed as representatives for Martin and arranged drug deals with the callers.

On May 26th, officers used replica Oxycontin pills and sold the pills to prospective buyers, who were then arrested for attempt to purchase/possess narcotics.  The busts took place in different locations throughout Modesto.

Arrested were:

-Colin McGaffrey     01-18-90, Modesto resident
-Samuel Cardenas  04-27-91, Modesto resident
-Kevin Singleton      06-27-84, Modesto resident
-Andrew Gutierrez   09-13-89, Modesto resident
Andrew Garber       12-05-90, Modesto resident
-And two 17-year old Modesto residents


If you would like to report suspicious drug activity and wish to remain anonymous, please call the Modesto Police Department Drug Hotline at (209) 571-3784.

For information about this news release, contact police spokesman Sergeant Rick Armendariz at (209) 652-1820.


For full details, go to https://local.nixle.com/alert/2326213/.


Contact Information:

Sergeant Rick  Armendariz
Office of the Chief of Police
209-652-1820    armendarizr@modestopd.com








Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 27, 2010, 02:47:26 PM

IMO...a mother with 3 small children to care for alone, has no business partying 4 nights a week.  I don't care if the children are provided babysitting care or not, nor do I care that she is young and 'now free'.  Her priorities are very screwed up.  I can see her going out with girlfriends one night a week, but hitting the party scene is not the example she should be setting for her children. 

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2010, 02:48:12 PM
elle1919 says

 The first article by Art which states Nay Nay dropped Misty at her brothers is dated for Monday April 20, 2009.....the other article which states Nay Nay dropped Misty at her parents is dated for Thursday June 11 2009. Art quotes Cobra as the source for the newer information. This might have came out after Cobra bonded out and interviewed Kristina P. Interesting.

So Nay Nay lied originally, or Art made a mistake ...

snip~According what private investigator William Staubs says sources told him – and mine confirm – Ronald was up all Sunday night waiting for Misty to come home. The sources say she never did, and he finally fell asleep—and overslept. Then had to rush and race to get Haleigh to school, and presumably try to find Misty before he went to work Monday afternoon at PDM Bridge Company, where sources say co workers and cell phone records confirm he was until quitting time.

When she finally came in Monday morning, she slept at her father’s house” nearby, Staubs tells me in an exclusive interview.~ end snip

http://www.artharris.com/2009/06/11/...eline-details/
__________________

she slept at her father’s house” nearby would that be the 103 Magnolia address??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Monkey with Class on May 27, 2010, 02:50:07 PM
From what I could understand, seems that Tommy supposedly took LE out to that dock first... (like on Sunday?)  Then on Monday, supposedly Misty took LE out to the same dock. 

Also seems to me that 'if' it was the 'wrong dock' that Misty would have either noticed that while she was standing out there....... or took LE to the 'right dock' in the first place.  Once standing at that dock, looking down into the water, seems that Misty would have said.. 'oh wait a minute, it wasn't here, it was up a ways... or down a ways'.  Had this 'really' happened to me, the location would have been burned into my mind, dark night or otherwise.  Of course, that's a mind not addled with drugs tho, which could be the main problem with Misty 'not being able to remember a dayum thing'. 

My question at this point is:
Did LE take Tommy and then Misty 'to' that dock... or did Tommy and then Misty, seperately and independently of each other, take LE 'to' that dock??  Who led who? 


 

Sure makes one begin to wonder just what is going on with communication .... how is some of this .. double stuff ... same from Misty and Tommy ... same dock location ...same conversation spoken to Gr Hollars.....just who is  passing on info to the other.  If they are both SO ACCURATE...why has it taken BOTH OF THEM ...over ONE YEAR ..TO RCALL THESE INCIDENTS AND PLACES.  I can see maybe one of them ...not remembering, but it sure doesn't appear to be this way at all.   Someone is  passing  info .... IMO. 

I agree, Grama!  Wonder how many phone calls we haven't heard about yet.  Either that, or info was exchanged and stories gotten straight - as in plan a, b, and c - before the drug arrests. 


I think  you have it correct Wyks.  I think this was thought out before the drug arrest.  It may have been mentioned one evening at dinner.  But never thought out in more detail of what if's.   They are at a dead end cause neither of them spoke about what to do or say next. This is why I believe there haven't been any arrest yet.  They haven't got the evidence to make an arrest.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2010, 03:05:38 PM

IMO...a mother with 3 small children to care for alone, has no business partying 4 nights a week.  I don't care if the children are provided babysitting care or not, nor do I care that she is young and 'now free'.  Her priorities are very screwed up.  I can see her going out with girlfriends one night a week, but hitting the party scene is not the example she should be setting for her children. 

 ::rhino::

I am sure the atmosphere that was created for them when their dad, Tommy was at home was not very pleasant.  They now have lost their dad: regardless of his actions, he is still their dad .... and I am sure to some degree they did look up to him.

Now if Lindsy is getting herself OUT and ABOUT ... having her sleepovers, getting out into the outside world ... don't feel that this is what her children should be subjected to at this time at all.  I know she can't stay couped up ... but hey there are jobs to be looking for and children that obviously will need some counselling to deal with not only their dad's problems, but the fact that their cousin, HaLeigh may no longer be with us.

She is being very selfish IMO ... to center attention around her own likes ... and this attention should be 100% about her children right now.  I am sure she is not happy with Hank Sr. & Lisa, but they were good enough to be at her home and I am sure they helped care for the children when they were there.

It is not fair to Hank Sr. & Lisa nor the children for them to be kept apart from their grandparents.  I know Hank Sr. & Lisa don't have much to offer, but being a grandparent is ONE that Lindsy should consider.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2010, 03:09:02 PM

IMO...a mother with 3 small children to care for alone, has no business partying 4 nights a week.  I don't care if the children are provided babysitting care or not, nor do I care that she is young and 'now free'.  Her priorities are very screwed up.  I can see her going out with girlfriends one night a week, but hitting the party scene is not the example she should be setting for her children. 

 ::rhino::

I am sure the atmosphere that was created for them when their dad, Tommy was at home was not very pleasant.  They now have lost their dad: regardless of his actions, he is still their dad .... and I am sure to some degree they did look up to him.

Now if Lindsy is getting herself OUT and ABOUT ... having her sleepovers, getting out into the outside world ... don't feel that this is what her children should be subjected to at this time at all.  I know she can't stay couped up ... but hey there are jobs to be looking for and children that obviously will need some counselling to deal with not only their dad's problems, but the fact that their cousin, HaLeigh may no longer be with us.

She is being very selfish IMO ... to center attention around her own likes ... and this attention should be 100% about her children right now.  I am sure she is not happy with Hank Sr. & Lisa, but they were good enough to be at her home and I am sure they helped care for the children when they were there.

It is not fair to Hank Sr. & Lisa nor the children for them to be kept apart from their grandparents.  I know Hank Sr. & Lisa don't have much to offer, but being a grandparent is ONE that Lindsy should consider.



Shoot, well my comment is in the box above. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on May 27, 2010, 03:11:02 PM
::HelloKitty::Heart,

Thank-you for the article on Hanky.
His stupid kids don't have a hard life, the children who lost their fathers to war have a hard life!
Who the heck is Hank telling us his kids "have a hard life"?
His stupid kids put hundreds of people through pain and suffering in the last year, not to mention a little child is still missing.
Hank and Lisa need to volunteer somewhere and then maybe they will earn respect for a job.
Boo-Hoo to Hank. They are  not good kids, they are good for nothing but rotten Bananas. ::MonkeyTongue::

Not to mention the cost that has gone into his kids' lie detector tests, searches, lawyers, jail time, court costs, etc., etc., etc. 

Miss Lacey,

Yes! thank-you for mentioning the expensive searches. It is painful to know these J.A.'s knew and still carried on
a Masquerade. 

I don't have an analytical mind to figure out the costs (maybe) T.J. Hart or Simon could give us a ballpark figure.

Hank has alot of cotton pickin' nerve to say he has 'good kids' and they had a hard life, I'm getting off the computer!
 
 ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 27, 2010, 03:11:05 PM

Sure makes one begin to wonder just what is going on with communication .... how is some of this .. double stuff ... same from Misty and Tommy ... same dock location ...same conversation spoken to Gr Hollars.....just who is  passing on info to the other.  If they are both SO ACCURATE...why has it taken BOTH OF THEM ...over ONE YEAR ..TO RCALL THESE INCIDENTS AND PLACES.  I can see maybe one of them ...not remembering, but it sure doesn't appear to be this way at all.   Someone is  passing  info .... IMO. 

I agree, Grama!  Wonder how many phone calls we haven't heard about yet.  Either that, or info was exchanged and stories gotten straight - as in plan a, b, and c - before the drug arrests. 


I think  you have it correct Wyks.  I think this was thought out before the drug arrest.  It may have been mentioned one evening at dinner.  But never thought out in more detail of what if's.   They are at a dead end cause neither of them spoke about what to do or say next. This is why I believe there haven't been any arrest yet.  They haven't got the evidence to make an arrest.

 ::rhino::

And not so sure they'll ever have the evidence to make an arrest.  Am thinking the only hope we have for accurate info is if a grand jury does convene, and there is a scramble to make deals on the drug arrests in exchange for correct info on Haleigh's case.  Ok by me, as long as it's not the other way around, deals on Haleigh's case in exchange for info on the drug stuff. 




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2010, 03:16:03 PM
Haleigh Cummings: Who Is To Blame For Her Disappearance?

Posted on May 27th, 2010
by Jan Barrett in Society and Culture, crime

On February 10, 2009 a little 5 year old child from Florida was reported as abducted in the middle of the night from her home in Satsuma. That night started a nightmare for lots of people.

Today, May 27, 2010 we still do not know where little Haleigh Cummings is nor do we know the truth about what happened to this precious little girl that has won the hearts of people from across the world.

This case seems to cover everything but what it should be covering from the beginning. What happened to Haleigh?

Along the line we have learned who is sleeping with who, who is spending money that they don’t have, who has a job, who doesn’t, who makes their money off the state and who has an honest job, or at least who is trying to get an honest job.

We have heard about who is addicted to pills and apparently who is dealing with drugs as well. We hear conversations between the people involved up to their ears in the case cutting each other’s throats. We all complain that listening to the jailhouse tapes aren’t helping us find Haleigh, yet we all want to hear the tapes anyway.

We hear so many different versions about what happened from the same ones. Has Misty Croslin told the truth in any of her versions? Has Tommy Croslin told the truth? Pick your favorite version and go along with it until a better one comes along that makes more sense. Has Crystal Sheffield told everything she knows? Has her mother, Maris Griffis told everything she knows?  Has Ronald Cummings or Teresa Neves or Annette Sykes told any truth?

The fact remains that we don’t know. None of this is helping us find Haleigh. We all bicker because someone says this or someone says that which is totally opposite from what we think happened. Does this help find Haleigh? NO it doesn’t.

Does destroying people’s life help? For instance, take Hank and Lisa Croslin. Neither of them had anything to do with Haleigh missing, yet they are paying a high price for it now just because of their children being involved. I am sure neither of them is very proud to admit that they are now broke, jobless and homeless as well. They are being forced to live in a homeless shelter because they can’t seem to get a job anywhere. They can’t leave the state because they are both on probation so they have no choice.

OK I admit Hank and Lisa may not have been parents that deserve “Parents of the Year” awards but at least Hank did seem to hold a job before all this came down and before his unfortunate auto accident. If you were to believe Misty’s story at one time, you would think Hank and Lisa were terrible parents. According to what she says it sounded as though they were abusive parents. They didn’t force her to go to school, they allowed her to live with a man that had three children already and then later allowed her to marry the man. Yet when they visit Misty all you hear is how much they love each other. Tell me, does this sound like a family that never got along before?

Personally I know how it is to be a rebellious child. I left home at 16 and there was nothing my parents could do to stop me other than to sit on top of me and hold me down to keep me from running away. My parents were good people and hard workers that were raising five kids and they did the best they could with us. I turned out OK once I finally came to my senses, but I learned the hard way as did my sister, who is no longer with us. It wasn’t because my parents didn’t care. It was because we didn’t care enough about them or anyone else but ourselves. I was never abused at home but I was determined to do what I wanted to do. Oh how I regret to this day putting my parents through the hell they went through because of my brothers and sister and I, but they still stand by us no matter what.

My point in all this is that as easy as it is to blame the parents for not being the best parents, we can’t always blame them. Hank and Lisa did not hit the cameras the minute their son and daughter got involved in all this. They haven’t done like George and Cindy Anthony have done. They refused to talk to the media. They didn’t want the publicity, but yet they were drawn into all this because of Tommy and Misty Croslin’s involvement in Haleigh’s disappearance.

Hank and Lisa appear to love their kids unconditionally. They both know their kids are going to have to do time for their part in this drug deal but until they know the truth they are not denying that Misty and Tommy know something about Haleigh being gone. They hold it in their hearts that neither of them could have possibly harmed Haleigh, but that is because they love their children regardless and no one wants to think their kids could do such a thing. At least they are not out there fighting with reporters over it. They are like us. They are sitting back waiting for the truth to come out no matter what that truth is. They are begging their children to please just tell the truth and put an end to all this.

Hank finally spoke out with Cindy Swirko, from Gainesville.com. I find it an interesting story and it will give you food for thought.

Will any of this help us find Haleigh? I think that the only way it will is if the one responsible finally confesses. To be honest how are we to believe Tommy after we hear him tell his wife and his father different version of what happened that night. Then we have Misty doing the same thing with her Dad not to mention the letters she supposedly wrote. Then we have Haleigh’s father, Ronald Cummings cutting a deal with the DA to get a lesser sentence if he testifies against Tommy and Misty. Why do they even need his testimony if they were clearly all caught on tape in the drug bust?

My question is who do we believe? Let’s pray that one day we will know the truth about what really happened, or at least I hope we will. We might never know.  Haleigh where ever you are America waits for you to be found or for at least the truth to come out and then you will be able to get the justice you so rightfully deserve.

Jan Barrett
http://www.bloggernews.net/124623


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 27, 2010, 03:24:55 PM
Thanks Heart


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2010, 03:32:44 PM
Thanks Heart
::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: SuzieQ on May 27, 2010, 03:42:21 PM
Thanks for bringing that over Heart. Good article.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 27, 2010, 03:46:21 PM
(http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=GS&Date=20100527&Category=ARTICLES&ArtNo=5271047&Ref=AR&Profile=1002&MaxW=600&border=0)
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100527/ARTICLES/5271047/1002?p=1&tc=pg


Heart, thanks for this article and pic, back on pg 13. 

Just wanted to comment that it's real sad looking at the condition of the door behind Hank.  Thinking of what their life has come to.  And likely, their kids could care less.   ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 27, 2010, 04:02:05 PM
(http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=GS&Date=20100527&Category=ARTICLES&ArtNo=5271047&Ref=AR&Profile=1002&MaxW=600&border=0)
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100527/ARTICLES/5271047/1002?p=1&tc=pg


Heart, thanks for this article and pic, back on pg 13. 

Just wanted to comment that it's real sad looking at the condition of the door behind Hank.  Thinking of what their life has come to.  And likely, their kids could care less.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


It's awful, very depressing, all of this is very depressing.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2010, 04:10:07 PM
(http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=GS&Date=20100527&Category=ARTICLES&ArtNo=5271047&Ref=AR&Profile=1002&MaxW=600&border=0)
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100527/ARTICLES/5271047/1002?p=1&tc=pg


Heart, thanks for this article and pic, back on pg 13. 

Just wanted to comment that it's real sad looking at the condition of the door behind Hank.  Thinking of what their life has come to.  And likely, their kids could care less.   ::MonkeyNoNo::



Just put more minutes on yer phone pa .. so Tommy & I can call you and waste the only extra cash you have.  Hank should just use that phone money to pay on his & Lisa's fines and let those two rot in their cell.  Time Hank to think of you and Lisa and let those two mouth running liars ... pay for thier own actions. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 27, 2010, 04:12:15 PM
Rosie and Grama.. Yep!  ITA!   ::rhino::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 27, 2010, 04:31:06 PM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1005/26/ng.01.html


M. CROSLIN: Just turned 18. I`ll be going 18-year-old girl, dad, and I`ve never had -- you know, I`m not a troublemaker. I didn`t do anything wrong, and they want to keep -- put me like on -- like I`m a horrible person and I`m not and I don`t deserve none of this.

I always had it hard, I always try to help people and everything. I always get screwed over, all the time. And Ronald just used me.

H. CROSLIN: I tried to tell you that.

M. CROSLIN: He did. He did use me. He used me for a babysitter, he used me for everything, he wanted me, and his family, too. That`s the only reason they wanted me around, is to be their babysitter because they were tired of baby-sitting the kids. That`s exactly why.

( she wanted him to choose )

And when they didn`t need me no more -- when they started -- when Haleigh come up missing and they didn`t need me no more, that`s when they wanted me to leave, because they had everybody helping them hand and foot. That`s exactly why.

And they want to say since I come into their family, it`s been drama. No. Since Ronald came into my life, it`s been drama.




---


H. CROSLIN: Somebody called me on the way here and told me that Art Harris is supposed to have some letter that you sent out and a family member was supposed to have gave it to him, but he`s lying, because I know for a fact that no family member gave it to him.

M. CROSLIN: What?

H. CROSLIN: Supposed to be a letter that came out.

M. CROSLIN: What letter?


H. CROSLIN: A letter that comes from you of the one of the family members.

M. CROSLIN: Somebody gave them a letter?

H. CROSLIN: That`s what they say, but --

M. CROSLIN: Who? Who`s they?

H. CROSLIN: That`s what they said on the news, Art Harris is supposed to have a letter.

M. CROSLIN: Art Harris ain`t got no letter -- well, if he`s got a letter --

H. CROSLIN: Well, they got it off --

M. CROSLIN: Huh?

H. CROSLIN: Yes. They got it from the cops.

M. CROSLIN: How`d they get it from the cops when -- well, yes. I don`t care. They can have the letter. I ain`t hiding nothing.

---

Ssssssssstill lying! (Energizer Bunny)

That was a good test you performed on her Hank, I was impressed by that one. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 27, 2010, 04:33:53 PM
I dont fell sorry for Hank and Lisa. They left there child mentally and physically years ago. The children placed home to home.. You sow what you reap.. The problem is Hank and Lisa only thought about themselves. They owe more than just  phone calls and money. They owed them a stable home way back but its a little to late.. ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 27, 2010, 04:34:07 PM
(http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=GS&Date=20100527&Category=ARTICLES&ArtNo=5271047&Ref=AR&Profile=1002&MaxW=600&border=0)
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100527/ARTICLES/5271047/1002?p=1&tc=pg


Heart, thanks for this article and pic, back on pg 13. 

Just wanted to comment that it's real sad looking at the condition of the door behind Hank.  Thinking of what their life has come to.  And likely, their kids could care less.   ::MonkeyNoNo::



Just put more minutes on yer phone pa .. so Tommy & I can call you and waste the only extra cash you have.  Hank should just use that phone money to pay on his & Lisa's fines and let those two rot in their cell.  Time Hank to think of you and Lisa and let those two mouth running liars ... pay for thier own actions. 

Agreed, Grama!

He'd be doing them a service also, allowing them to pay the consequences for their actions, something I don't think they ever were taught to do before.

(And I still have very little sympathy for Lisa and Hank.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Magnolia on May 27, 2010, 04:58:44 PM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1005/26/ng.01.html


M. CROSLIN: Just turned 18. I`ll be going 18-year-old girl, dad, and I`ve never had -- you know, I`m not a troublemaker. I didn`t do anything wrong, and they want to keep -- put me like on -- like I`m a horrible person and I`m not and I don`t deserve none of this.

I always had it hard, I always try to help people and everything. I always get screwed over, all the time. And Ronald just used me.

H. CROSLIN: I tried to tell you that.

M. CROSLIN: He did. He did use me. He used me for a babysitter, he used me for everything, he wanted me, and his family, too. That`s the only reason they wanted me around, is to be their babysitter because they were tired of baby-sitting the kids. That`s exactly why.

( she wanted him to choose )

And when they didn`t need me no more -- when they started -- when Haleigh come up missing and they didn`t need me no more, that`s when they wanted me to leave, because they had everybody helping them hand and foot. That`s exactly why.

And they want to say since I come into their family, it`s been drama. No. Since Ronald came into my life, it`s been drama.




---


H. CROSLIN: Somebody called me on the way here and told me that Art Harris is supposed to have some letter that you sent out and a family member was supposed to have gave it to him, but he`s lying, because I know for a fact that no family member gave it to him.

M. CROSLIN: What?

H. CROSLIN: Supposed to be a letter that came out.

M. CROSLIN: What letter?


H. CROSLIN: A letter that comes from you of the one of the family members.

M. CROSLIN: Somebody gave them a letter?

H. CROSLIN: That`s what they say, but --

M. CROSLIN: Who? Who`s they?

H. CROSLIN: That`s what they said on the news, Art Harris is supposed to have a letter.

M. CROSLIN: Art Harris ain`t got no letter -- well, if he`s got a letter --

H. CROSLIN: Well, they got it off --

M. CROSLIN: Huh?

H. CROSLIN: Yes. They got it from the cops.

M. CROSLIN: How`d they get it from the cops when -- well, yes. I don`t care. They can have the letter. I ain`t hiding nothing.

---

Ssssssssstill lying! (Energizer Bunny)

That was a good test you performed on her Hank, I was impressed by that one. ::MonkeyWink::


I am confused about the letter......Is that the letter that Chelsea sold to Art Harris?
What did it say?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 27, 2010, 05:03:33 PM

542010CF000143XXAXMX
2010-01-21
Defendant
SYKES, HOPE A
Alias

2010-05-26 63 ORDER ON DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR REHEARING

2010-05-26 64 ORDER ON MOTION TO WITHDRAW AS COUNSEL SUBSEQUENT

2010-05-26 64 TO FILING INITIAL APPELLATE DOCUMENTS

2010-05-26 65 ORDER APPOINTING OFFICE OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR PURPOSES OF APPEAL

2010-05-26 66 LETTER TO THE HONORABLE SUSAN WRIGHT

2010-05-26 67 LETTER TO THE OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 27, 2010, 05:17:30 PM

542010CF000143XXAXMX
2010-01-21
Defendant
SYKES, HOPE A
Alias

2010-05-26 63 ORDER ON DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR REHEARING

2010-05-26 64 ORDER ON MOTION TO WITHDRAW AS COUNSEL SUBSEQUENT

2010-05-26 64 TO FILING INITIAL APPELLATE DOCUMENTS

2010-05-26 65 ORDER APPOINTING OFFICE OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR PURPOSES OF APPEAL

2010-05-26 66 LETTER TO THE HONORABLE SUSAN WRIGHT

2010-05-26 67 LETTER TO THE OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php


I am terrible at deciphering these things.

Does this mean that Hope's attorney (I thought she was a public defender) is quitting the case and another one will be provided for Hope for her (inevitable) appeal?



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 27, 2010, 05:23:02 PM
I believe the letter was all about the Croslin siblings and spouses implicating cousin Joe Overstreet in the happenings encompassing that fateful night as well as attempting to gain financially through the sale letter.

There was a copy of Misty's letter to Chelsea posted somewhere.  If somebody could bump it forward ... it would be appreciated.

Thanks

Janet

++++++

Nancy Grace - April 16, 2010[/b]

CHELSEA CROSLIN, MISTY CROSLIN`S SISTER-IN-LAW: I`ve always from day one believed that Joe did have some sort of part in Haleigh`s disappearance, just from the different things, from the van being moved, the scratch. I don`t believe that Tommy and Misty could do anything to harm a child.

JEAN CASAREZ, GUEST HOST: You were sent a letter from Misty in jail. We received a copy of that letter. And that letter that Misty wrote says to you, "He put me up with a knife, and he said that if he would come back and he`d kill me. He told me at the house he would kill me, so I didn`t know what to do." Who`s Misty talking about right there?

CHELSEA CROSLIN: She`s talking about Joe.

CASAREZ: Describe for me what she wrote in this letter in detail. It`s a little hard to read. But tell us all.

CHELSEA CROSLIN: The letter basically states that she --  Joe came in to steal the gun. She didn`t know the gun was gone. When she looked for the gun, the gun wasn`t there. Joe freaked out and took Haleigh. She said that she had seen Tommy in the back door, and when she looked back again, he was gone. So she said that she didn`t know what, you know, Tommy -- part Tommy might -- I don`t believe Tommy had a part in it, just she was implicating that maybe Tommy had known that Joe was there.

CASAREZ: We`re going to talk to Joe`s attorney in just a minute. But Chelsea, what would be the motive to do that? Why?

CHELSEA CROSLIN: I don`t see why anybody in the world would have motive to hurt a child.

CASAREZ: But you must have talked to people. What do people believe the motive for anyone to do something like that?

CHELSEA CROSLIN: I don`t know Joe. And as far as I know, I`ve been told Joe is -- is crazy. So I don`t know what he could do.

CASAREZ: And we want to say that cousin Joe is not a suspect in this case.

<snipped>

CASAREZ: I`m Jean Casarez of the legal network In Session, in for Nancy Grace tonight. You know, law enforcement had said on the record that they were looking for physical evidence in the St. John`s River, and our affiliate WJXT is reporting tonight that two cinderblocks were pulled from the river. They have been sent now for testing.

I want to go back out to Chelsea Croslin, who is with us tonight, the sister-in-law of Misty. Chelsea, you had mentioned before we went to break about a van. And I remember you talking to law enforcement early on about a van. You were using a van at that time in Florida, and that night, it was borrowed by someone. Is that right?

CHELSEA CROSLIN: Yes, it is. It was my sister-in-law`s van.

CASAREZ: And who borrowed it that night?

CHELSEA CROSLIN: Well, I borrowed it from my sister-in-law. And when I woke up the next day, the van was parked in a different spot than I had parked it. So I assumed that the van had been taken from the home that night.

CASAREZ: Do you know who drove it?

CHELSEA CROSLIN: If anybody drove it, it had to have been Joe.

CASAREZ: Why?

CHELSEA CROSLIN: Because my husband was sleeping next to me. He had just been in a car accident and he was on medication. He was asleep hours before I was.

CASAREZ: What about Tommy? Why couldn`t Tommy have taken the van?

CHELSEA CROSLIN: Because Tommy lived at least three miles from where my house was. And it was Tommy`s van, but he lent it to us that night. Joe would have had to have taken the van from my house to go back to that neighborhood. Tommy lived right next to where Misty and Haleigh did, about six houses apart.

<snipped>

CASAREZ: Where was Joe that night? Where was Joe? I mean, was he driving around? Was he sleeping? Where was he? This happened very late at night.

SHAWN SIRGO, ATTORNEY FOR JOE OVERSTREET: He was sleeping, and he was woken up by the same phone call at approximately 4:00 AM.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/16/ng.01.html


Police Follow Up on New Leads in 5-Year-Old Haleigh Cummings Case
April 15, 2010


In an interview with the media Thursday in Nashville, Overstreet, 20, broke into tears when he was asked about any possible connection to Haleigh's disappearance.

"If I knew who did it, I would go straight and call the cops and tell them who did it," said Overstreet, according to ABC News' Nashville affiliate WKRN.

His attorney, Shawn Sirgo, said his client is being targeted by family members.

"I do believe siblings have gotten together, substantiated a story that they can't even keep straight, that the lies lead to lies, that the admissions keep modifying," Sirgo said

http://abcnews.go.com/US/haleigh-cummings-family-points-fingers-search-missing-girl/story?id=10384095


Nancy Grace - April 19, 2010

SHAWN SIRGO, ATTORNEY FOR JOE OVERSTREET: We`re officers of the court. And I`m not going to weigh in on speculation or guess -- guessing when the police have an ongoing investigation.

I just know that my client, Joseph, is innocent. He had nothing to do with this. And he`s being thrown under the rug by people who may and possibly do have something to hide.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/19/ng.01.html



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 27, 2010, 05:23:25 PM
Mags - to the best of what I know... Chelsea attempted to sell Misty's letter to get money for a car that works, but nobody would buy it.

It was one of her many confessions. If I had to take a wild stab at it... I would guess that
it matches up to what she was telling Granny Hollars on the phone. ...and by matching up,
I mean, knowing Misty it probably had a few details that didn't match. ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 27, 2010, 05:24:08 PM

542010CF000143XXAXMX
2010-01-21
Defendant
SYKES, HOPE A
Alias

2010-05-26 63 ORDER ON DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR REHEARING

2010-05-26 64 ORDER ON MOTION TO WITHDRAW AS COUNSEL SUBSEQUENT

2010-05-26 64 TO FILING INITIAL APPELLATE DOCUMENTS

2010-05-26 65 ORDER APPOINTING OFFICE OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR PURPOSES OF APPEAL

2010-05-26 66 LETTER TO THE HONORABLE SUSAN WRIGHT

2010-05-26 67 LETTER TO THE OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php


I am terrible at deciphering these things.

Does this mean that Hope's attorney (I thought she was a public defender) is quitting the case and another one will be provided for Hope for her (inevitable) appeal?



Me too!  lol..........

It looks like (and I could wrong) Hope wrote letters ???, is asking for another atty ???, and is appealing her sentence ???. 

Am thinking that to do an appeal, one needs to have a different atty. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 27, 2010, 05:26:55 PM
I dont fell sorry for Hank and Lisa. They left there child mentally and physically years ago. The children placed home to home.. You sow what you reap.. The problem is Hank and Lisa only thought about themselves. They owe more than just  phone calls and money. They owed them a stable home way back but its a little to late.. ::MonkeyNoNo::



 ::rhino::




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 27, 2010, 05:41:16 PM
I dont fell sorry for Hank and Lisa. They left there child mentally and physically years ago. The children placed home to home.. You sow what you reap.. The problem is Hank and Lisa only thought about themselves. They owe more than just  phone calls and money. They owed them a stable home way back but its a little to late.. ::MonkeyNoNo::



Well yeah.. and then there's that.   ::rhino::

This case is full of up and downs, ins and outs, mixed feelings galore.  I dunno for sure from day to day what I'm feeling about anything or anyone.  Except that Justice needs to be brought for Haleigh.  On that I don't think any of us waver. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2010, 05:43:27 PM

542010CF000143XXAXMX
2010-01-21
Defendant
SYKES, HOPE A
Alias

2010-05-26 63 ORDER ON DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR REHEARING

2010-05-26 64 ORDER ON MOTION TO WITHDRAW AS COUNSEL SUBSEQUENT

2010-05-26 64 TO FILING INITIAL APPELLATE DOCUMENTS

2010-05-26 65 ORDER APPOINTING OFFICE OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR PURPOSES OF APPEAL

2010-05-26 66 LETTER TO THE HONORABLE SUSAN WRIGHT

2010-05-26 67 LETTER TO THE OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php


I am terrible at deciphering these things.

Does this mean that Hope's attorney (I thought she was a public defender) is quitting the case and another one will be provided for Hope for her (inevitable) appeal?



Me too!  lol..........

It looks like (and I could wrong) Hope wrote letters ???, is asking for another atty ???, and is appealing her sentence ???. 

Am thinking that to do an appeal, one needs to have a different atty. 

Florida Rules of Appellate Procedure
RULE 9.140 APPEAL PROCEEDINGS IN CRIMINAL CASES




(d) Withdrawal of Defense Counsel after Judgment and Sentence or after Appeal by State.


(1) The attorney of record for a defendant in a criminal proceeding shall not be relieved of any professional duties, or be permitted to withdraw as defense counsel of record, except with approval of the lower tribunal on good cause shown on written motion, until either the time has expired for filing an authorized notice of appeal and no such notice has been filed by the defendant or the state, or after the following have been completed:

    (A) a notice of appeal or cross-appeal has been filed on behalf of the defendant or the state;
    (B) a statement of judicial acts to be reviewed has been filed if a transcript will require the expenditure of public funds;
    (C) the defendant's directions to the clerk have been filed, if necessary;
    (D) designations to the approved court reporter or approved transcriptionist have been filed for transcripts of those portions of the proceedings necessary to support the issues on appeal or, if transcripts will require the expenditure of public funds for the defendant, of those portions of the proceedings necessary to support the statement of judicial acts to be reviewed; and
    (E) in publicly funded defense and state appeals, the lower tribunal has appointed the public defender for the local circuit court, who shall initially remain counsel for the appeal until the record is transmitted to the appellate court. In publicly funded state appeals, defense counsel shall additionally file in the appellate court a copy of the order appointing the local public defender. In non-publicly funded defense and state appeals, retained appellate counsel shall file a notice of appearance in the appellate court, or defense counsel of record shall file a motion to withdraw in the appellate court, with service on the defendant, that states what the defendant's legal representation on appeal, if any, is expected to be. Documents filed in the appellate court shall be served on the attorney general (or state attorney in appeals to the circuit court).


(2) Orders allowing withdrawal of counsel are conditional and counsel shall remain of record for the limited purpose of representing the defendant in the lower tribunal regarding any sentencing error the lower tribunal is authorized to address during the pendency of the direct appeal pursuant to Florida Rule of Criminal Procedure 3.800(b)(2).

(e) Sentencing Errors. A sentencing error may not be raised on appeal unless the alleged error has first been brought to the attention of the lower tribunal: (1) at the time of sentencing; or (2) by motion pursuant to Florida Rule of Criminal Procedure 3.800(b).

(f) Record.
(1) Service. The clerk of the lower tribunal shall prepare and serve the record prescribed by rule 9.200 within 50 days of the filing of the notice of appeal.
(2) Transcripts.

    (A) If a defendant's designation of a transcript of proceedings requires expenditure of public funds, trial counsel for the defendant (in conjunction with appellate counsel, if possible) shall serve, within 10 days of filing the notice, a statement of judicial acts to be reviewed, and a designation to the approved court reporter or approved transcriptionist requiring preparation of only so much of the proceedings as fairly supports the issue raised.

    (B) Either party may file motions in the lower tribunal to reduce or expand the transcripts.

    (C) Except as permitted in subdivision (f)(2)(D) of this rule, the parties shall designate the approved court reporter or approved transcriptionist to file with the clerk of the lower tribunal the original transcripts for the court and sufficient copies for the state and all indigent defendants.

    (D) Non-indigent defendants represented by counsel may designate the approved court reporter or approved transcriptionist to prepare only original transcripts. Counsel adopting this procedure shall, within 5 days of receipt of the original transcripts from the approved court reporter or approved transcriptionist, file the original transcripts along with securely bound copies for the state and all defendants. Counsel shall serve notice of the use of this procedure on the attorney general (or the state attorney in appeals to circuit court) and the clerk of the lower tribunal. Counsel shall attach a certificate to each copy certifying that it is an accurate and complete copy of the original transcript. When this procedure is used, the clerk of the lower tribunal upon conclusion of the appeal shall retain the original transcript for use as needed by the state in any collateral proceedings and shall not destroy the transcripts without the consent of the Office of the Attorney General.

    (E) In state appeals, the state shall designate the approved court reporter or approved transcriptionist to prepare and file with the clerk of the lower tribunal the original transcripts and sufficient copies for all separately represented defendants. Alternatively, the state may elect to use the procedure specified in subdivision (f)(2)(D) of this rule.

    (F) The lower tribunal may by administrative order in publicly-funded cases direct the clerk of the lower tribunal rather than the approved court reporter or approved transcriptionist to prepare the necessary copies of the original transcripts.

http://floridarulesofappellateprocedure.com/rules/2009/08/rule-9140-appeal-proceedings-i.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 27, 2010, 05:45:40 PM
CHELSEA CROSLIN: I don`t know Joe. And as far as I know, I`ve been told Joe is -- is crazy. So I don`t know what he could do.


* Yet she let him sleep in her house with her kids there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2010, 05:53:12 PM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1005/26/ng.01.html


M. CROSLIN: Just turned 18. I`ll be going 18-year-old girl, dad, and I`ve never had -- you know, I`m not a troublemaker. I didn`t do anything wrong, and they want to keep -- put me like on -- like I`m a horrible person and I`m not and I don`t deserve none of this.

I always had it hard, I always try to help people and everything. I always get screwed over, all the time. And Ronald just used me.

H. CROSLIN: I tried to tell you that.

M. CROSLIN: He did. He did use me. He used me for a babysitter, he used me for everything, he wanted me, and his family, too. That`s the only reason they wanted me around, is to be their babysitter because they were tired of baby-sitting the kids. That`s exactly why.

( she wanted him to choose )

And when they didn`t need me no more -- when they started -- when Haleigh come up missing and they didn`t need me no more, that`s when they wanted me to leave, because they had everybody helping them hand and foot. That`s exactly why.

And they want to say since I come into their family, it`s been drama. No. Since Ronald came into my life, it`s been drama.




---


H. CROSLIN: Somebody called me on the way here and told me that Art Harris is supposed to have some letter that you sent out and a family member was supposed to have gave it to him, but he`s lying, because I know for a fact that no family member gave it to him.

M. CROSLIN: What?

H. CROSLIN: Supposed to be a letter that came out.

M. CROSLIN: What letter?


H. CROSLIN: A letter that comes from you of the one of the family members.

M. CROSLIN: Somebody gave them a letter?

H. CROSLIN: That`s what they say, but --

M. CROSLIN: Who? Who`s they?

H. CROSLIN: That`s what they said on the news, Art Harris is supposed to have a letter.

M. CROSLIN: Art Harris ain`t got no letter -- well, if he`s got a letter --

H. CROSLIN: Well, they got it off --

M. CROSLIN: Huh?

H. CROSLIN: Yes. They got it from the cops.

M. CROSLIN: How`d they get it from the cops when -- well, yes. I don`t care. They can have the letter. I ain`t hiding nothing.

---

Ssssssssstill lying! (Energizer Bunny)

That was a good test you performed on her Hank, I was impressed by that one. ::MonkeyWink::
Woo is me Misty, were you forced at gunpoint to babysit?
Was that a shotgun wedding that you had?

You were tired of babysitting but yet you wanted to have that user Ronald's baby according to AH.

You little woo is me Misty even sent Amber Brooks e-mail threatening her of possibly taking her baby.

Little woo is me Misty you have proved time and time again that your mouth over runs your butt.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 27, 2010, 05:55:14 PM

542010CF000143XXAXMX
2010-01-21
Defendant
SYKES, HOPE A
Alias

2010-05-26 63 ORDER ON DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR REHEARING

2010-05-26 64 ORDER ON MOTION TO WITHDRAW AS COUNSEL SUBSEQUENT

2010-05-26 64 TO FILING INITIAL APPELLATE DOCUMENTS

2010-05-26 65 ORDER APPOINTING OFFICE OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR PURPOSES OF APPEAL

2010-05-26 66 LETTER TO THE HONORABLE SUSAN WRIGHT

2010-05-26 67 LETTER TO THE OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php


I am terrible at deciphering these things.

Does this mean that Hope's attorney (I thought she was a public defender) is quitting the case and another one will be provided for Hope for her (inevitable) appeal?



Me too!  lol..........

It looks like (and I could wrong) Hope wrote letters ???, is asking for another atty ???, and is appealing her sentence ???. 

Am thinking that to do an appeal, one needs to have a different atty. 

Florida Rules of Appellate Procedure
RULE 9.140 APPEAL PROCEEDINGS IN CRIMINAL CASES




(d) Withdrawal of Defense Counsel after Judgment and Sentence or after Appeal by State.


(1) The attorney of record for a defendant in a criminal proceeding shall not be relieved of any professional duties, or be permitted to withdraw as defense counsel of record, except with approval of the lower tribunal on good cause shown on written motion, until either the time has expired for filing an authorized notice of appeal and no such notice has been filed by the defendant or the state, or after the following have been completed:

    (A) a notice of appeal or cross-appeal has been filed on behalf of the defendant or the state;
    (B) a statement of judicial acts to be reviewed has been filed if a transcript will require the expenditure of public funds;
    (C) the defendant's directions to the clerk have been filed, if necessary;
    (D) designations to the approved court reporter or approved transcriptionist have been filed for transcripts of those portions of the proceedings necessary to support the issues on appeal or, if transcripts will require the expenditure of public funds for the defendant, of those portions of the proceedings necessary to support the statement of judicial acts to be reviewed; and
    (E) in publicly funded defense and state appeals, the lower tribunal has appointed the public defender for the local circuit court, who shall initially remain counsel for the appeal until the record is transmitted to the appellate court. In publicly funded state appeals, defense counsel shall additionally file in the appellate court a copy of the order appointing the local public defender. In non-publicly funded defense and state appeals, retained appellate counsel shall file a notice of appearance in the appellate court, or defense counsel of record shall file a motion to withdraw in the appellate court, with service on the defendant, that states what the defendant's legal representation on appeal, if any, is expected to be. Documents filed in the appellate court shall be served on the attorney general (or state attorney in appeals to the circuit court).


(2) Orders allowing withdrawal of counsel are conditional and counsel shall remain of record for the limited purpose of representing the defendant in the lower tribunal regarding any sentencing error the lower tribunal is authorized to address during the pendency of the direct appeal pursuant to Florida Rule of Criminal Procedure 3.800(b)(2).

(e) Sentencing Errors. A sentencing error may not be raised on appeal unless the alleged error has first been brought to the attention of the lower tribunal: (1) at the time of sentencing; or (2) by motion pursuant to Florida Rule of Criminal Procedure 3.800(b).

(f) Record.
(1) Service. The clerk of the lower tribunal shall prepare and serve the record prescribed by rule 9.200 within 50 days of the filing of the notice of appeal.
(2) Transcripts.

    (A) If a defendant's designation of a transcript of proceedings requires expenditure of public funds, trial counsel for the defendant (in conjunction with appellate counsel, if possible) shall serve, within 10 days of filing the notice, a statement of judicial acts to be reviewed, and a designation to the approved court reporter or approved transcriptionist requiring preparation of only so much of the proceedings as fairly supports the issue raised.

    (B) Either party may file motions in the lower tribunal to reduce or expand the transcripts.

    (C) Except as permitted in subdivision (f)(2)(D) of this rule, the parties shall designate the approved court reporter or approved transcriptionist to file with the clerk of the lower tribunal the original transcripts for the court and sufficient copies for the state and all indigent defendants.

    (D) Non-indigent defendants represented by counsel may designate the approved court reporter or approved transcriptionist to prepare only original transcripts. Counsel adopting this procedure shall, within 5 days of receipt of the original transcripts from the approved court reporter or approved transcriptionist, file the original transcripts along with securely bound copies for the state and all defendants. Counsel shall serve notice of the use of this procedure on the attorney general (or the state attorney in appeals to circuit court) and the clerk of the lower tribunal. Counsel shall attach a certificate to each copy certifying that it is an accurate and complete copy of the original transcript. When this procedure is used, the clerk of the lower tribunal upon conclusion of the appeal shall retain the original transcript for use as needed by the state in any collateral proceedings and shall not destroy the transcripts without the consent of the Office of the Attorney General.

    (E) In state appeals, the state shall designate the approved court reporter or approved transcriptionist to prepare and file with the clerk of the lower tribunal the original transcripts and sufficient copies for all separately represented defendants. Alternatively, the state may elect to use the procedure specified in subdivision (f)(2)(D) of this rule.

    (F) The lower tribunal may by administrative order in publicly-funded cases direct the clerk of the lower tribunal rather than the approved court reporter or approved transcriptionist to prepare the necessary copies of the original transcripts.

http://floridarulesofappellateprocedure.com/rules/2009/08/rule-9140-appeal-proceedings-i.php

So, Heart, does this mean that Hope's attorney (I thought she was a public defender) is quitting the case and another one will be provided for Hope for her (inevitable) appeal?

Please help me out here.

(Sorry for the lengthy quotes)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Magnolia on May 27, 2010, 06:15:15 PM
Mags - to the best of what I know... Chelsea attempted to sell Misty's letter to get money for a car that works, but nobody would buy it.

It was one of her many confessions. If I had to take a wild stab at it... I would guess that
it matches up to what she was telling Granny Hollars on the phone. ...and by matching up,
I mean, knowing Misty it probably had a few details that didn't match. ::MonkeyDevil::


I have been looking for what I could find on the letter.
Seems nobody has seen it yet except if PCSO checked the mail before they let it go out.

Art Harris said that Chelsea wanted $3,000 or a truck that would get Timmy back and forth
to work at a resort for the summer months.  I think it was Leon Padiddly that was hit up for
the money or the vehicle.  He is probably waiting on phone sex before he delivers the truck. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2010, 06:21:06 PM
(http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=GS&Date=20100527&Category=ARTICLES&ArtNo=5271047&Ref=AR&Profile=1002&MaxW=600&border=0)
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100527/ARTICLES/5271047/1002?p=1&tc=pg


Heart, thanks for this article and pic, back on pg 13. 

Just wanted to comment that it's real sad looking at the condition of the door behind Hank.  Thinking of what their life has come to.  And likely, their kids could care less.   ::MonkeyNoNo::



Just put more minutes on yer phone pa .. so Tommy & I can call you and waste the only extra cash you have.  Hank should just use that phone money to pay on his & Lisa's fines and let those two rot in their cell.  Time Hank to think of you and Lisa and let those two mouth running liars ... pay for thier own actions. 

Agreed, Grama!

He'd be doing them a service also, allowing them to pay the consequences for their actions, something I don't think they ever were taught to do before.

(And I still have very little sympathy for Lisa and Hank.)

Generally I don't have pity for those that don't help themselves ... you made your bed ... kinda thing.  I know Lisa has the theft charge, and Hank for the Dr. shopping.  But they truly have been bent over backwards with this HaLeigh case and are in the publics eyes.  They didn't ask for publicity, ask for funds to be interviewed.  Now there have been many convicts that have been hired to do various jobs. 

Hank & Lisa should not be paying for what their two kids have gotten themselves into.  Gosh there has to be someone in Putnam that is willing to offer Hank Sr. a job.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Blumonkey on May 27, 2010, 06:28:16 PM
After pleading guilty and being sentenced to 15 years, Hope called her mother and claimed her attorney did not explain to her what she was doing by pleading guilty. She was very tearful and angry in that call and basically blamed everyone but herself for her situation. IMO Hope thought she would plead guilty and get a light sentence and probation. When that did not happen she is casting blame on her attorney for ineffective counsel. In view of her accusations against her attorney, she is asking that a new attorney be appointed to handle her appeal. More drama from a sad character who does not want to take responsibility for her actions. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 27, 2010, 06:29:57 PM
Mags - to the best of what I know... Chelsea attempted to sell Misty's letter to get money for a car that works, but nobody would buy it.

It was one of her many confessions. If I had to take a wild stab at it... I would guess that
it matches up to what she was telling Granny Hollars on the phone. ...and by matching up,
I mean, knowing Misty it probably had a few details that didn't match. ::MonkeyDevil::


I have been looking for what I could find on the letter.
Seems nobody has seen it yet except if PCSO checked the mail before they let it go out.

Art Harris said that Chelsea wanted $3,000 or a truck that would get Timmy back and forth
to work at a resort for the summer months.  I think it was Leon Padiddly that was hit up for
the money or the vehicle.  He is probably waiting on phone sex before he delivers the truck. JMO

 ::MonkeyJnBox::
Padiddled by Padiddly! cawwwww I feel like a such pretty bird.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 27, 2010, 06:34:22 PM
After pleading guilty and being sentenced to 15 years, Hope called her mother and claimed her attorney did not explain to her what she was doing by pleading guilty. She was very tearful and angry in that call and basically blamed everyone but herself for her situation. IMO Hope thought she would plead guilty and get a light sentence and probation. When that did not happen she is casting blame on her attorney for ineffective counsel. In view of her accusations against her attorney, she is asking that a new attorney be appointed to handle her appeal. More drama from a sad character who does not want to take responsibility for her actions. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Can't remember for sure, but in that same phone call with her mother, didn't Hope admit to not paying attention when the attorney was explaining things to her?  Something like that.  Am betting no matter what attorney she gets, they are gonna roll their eyes and commence with an appeal.  Guess it's her "right" and all.   :roll: 

How many times can she whine and ask for another atty, ask for another appeal? 

Hope it's not 'seventy times seven'.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 27, 2010, 06:36:31 PM

I have been looking for what I could find on the letter.
Seems nobody has seen it yet except if PCSO checked the mail before they let it go out.

Art Harris said that Chelsea wanted $3,000 or a truck that would get Timmy back and forth
to work at a resort for the summer months.  I think it was Leon Padiddly that was hit up for
the money or the vehicle.  He is probably waiting on phone sex before he delivers the truck. JMO

 ::MonkeyJnBox::
Padiddled by Padiddly! cawwwww I feel like a such pretty bird.

 ::MonkeyLaugh::





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2010, 06:41:12 PM
After pleading guilty and being sentenced to 15 years, Hope called her mother and claimed her attorney did not explain to her what she was doing by pleading guilty. She was very tearful and angry in that call and basically blamed everyone but herself for her situation. IMO Hope thought she would plead guilty and get a light sentence and probation. When that did not happen she is casting blame on her attorney for ineffective counsel. In view of her accusations against her attorney, she is asking that a new attorney be appointed to handle her appeal. More drama from a sad character who does not want to take responsibility for her actions. ::MonkeyNoNo::

If HOPE would have kept her BIG MOUTH SHUT when speaking to her mother .... She is a typical Misty.  You speak to them, and their answer is completely off the wall ... nothing even close to what they were speaking about.  Right on the DEFENSIVE ALL THE TIME.

I am sure that HOPE did the same to her lawyer.  NEVER ONCE STOPPED BITCHING AND COMPLAINING ...and ACTUALLY LISTENED when the lawyer tried to explain what each charge would bring for a sentence.  NO .. Just thinking about how bad she is gonna be when she gets out.

Maybe this lawyer had ENOUGH with her and she had to get a new one.  Well, I sure as heck that this court case doesn't surface ANYTIME SOON.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 27, 2010, 06:46:28 PM
Hope's words to her mother do concern me.

Playing the devil's advocate ... could Hope have been set up as an example to motivate a plea deal from Ron, Misty and Tommy in regards to the Haleigh Cummings case?

+++++


NANCY GRACE
Croslin`s Drug Co-Defendant Sentenced to 15 Years
Aired April 27, 2010 - 20:00:00   ET


(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

KATRINA BELCHER, HOPE`S MOTHER: I just wanted to make sure you understood what was going on, and that ain`t good because you pled no contest, and you don`t know what you`re pleading to. Now, from what I understood, I thought the one charge got dismissed if you took the trafficking charge.

HOPE SYKES, RONALD CUMMINGS` COUSIN: No, Mom. I have two charges still.

BELCHER: That`s not the way she explained it to me, but I`ll ask her again.

SYKES: What are you talking about? Like, I sat there and said no contest? I didn`t plead no contest. She pled no contest.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/27/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2010, 06:49:39 PM

542010CF000143XXAXMX
2010-01-21
Defendant
SYKES, HOPE A
Alias

2010-05-26 63 ORDER ON DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR REHEARING

2010-05-26 64 ORDER ON MOTION TO WITHDRAW AS COUNSEL SUBSEQUENT

2010-05-26 64 TO FILING INITIAL APPELLATE DOCUMENTS

2010-05-26 65 ORDER APPOINTING OFFICE OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR PURPOSES OF APPEAL

2010-05-26 66 LETTER TO THE HONORABLE SUSAN WRIGHT

2010-05-26 67 LETTER TO THE OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php


I am terrible at deciphering these things.

Does this mean that Hope's attorney (I thought she was a public defender) is quitting the case and another one will be provided for Hope for her (inevitable) appeal?



Me too!  lol..........

It looks like (and I could wrong) Hope wrote letters ???, is asking for another atty ???, and is appealing her sentence ???. 

Am thinking that to do an appeal, one needs to have a different atty. 

Florida Rules of Appellate Procedure
RULE 9.140 APPEAL PROCEEDINGS IN CRIMINAL CASES




(d) Withdrawal of Defense Counsel after Judgment and Sentence or after Appeal by State.


(1) The attorney of record for a defendant in a criminal proceeding shall not be relieved of any professional duties, or be permitted to withdraw as defense counsel of record, except with approval of the lower tribunal on good cause shown on written motion, until either the time has expired for filing an authorized notice of appeal and no such notice has been filed by the defendant or the state, or after the following have been completed:

    (A) a notice of appeal or cross-appeal has been filed on behalf of the defendant or the state;
    (B) a statement of judicial acts to be reviewed has been filed if a transcript will require the expenditure of public funds;
    (C) the defendant's directions to the clerk have been filed, if necessary;
    (D) designations to the approved court reporter or approved transcriptionist have been filed for transcripts of those portions of the proceedings necessary to support the issues on appeal or, if transcripts will require the expenditure of public funds for the defendant, of those portions of the proceedings necessary to support the statement of judicial acts to be reviewed; and
    (E) in publicly funded defense and state appeals, the lower tribunal has appointed the public defender for the local circuit court, who shall initially remain counsel for the appeal until the record is transmitted to the appellate court. In publicly funded state appeals, defense counsel shall additionally file in the appellate court a copy of the order appointing the local public defender. In non-publicly funded defense and state appeals, retained appellate counsel shall file a notice of appearance in the appellate court, or defense counsel of record shall file a motion to withdraw in the appellate court, with service on the defendant, that states what the defendant's legal representation on appeal, if any, is expected to be. Documents filed in the appellate court shall be served on the attorney general (or state attorney in appeals to the circuit court).


(2) Orders allowing withdrawal of counsel are conditional and counsel shall remain of record for the limited purpose of representing the defendant in the lower tribunal regarding any sentencing error the lower tribunal is authorized to address during the pendency of the direct appeal pursuant to Florida Rule of Criminal Procedure 3.800(b)(2).

(e) Sentencing Errors. A sentencing error may not be raised on appeal unless the alleged error has first been brought to the attention of the lower tribunal: (1) at the time of sentencing; or (2) by motion pursuant to Florida Rule of Criminal Procedure 3.800(b).

(f) Record.
(1) Service. The clerk of the lower tribunal shall prepare and serve the record prescribed by rule 9.200 within 50 days of the filing of the notice of appeal.
(2) Transcripts.

    (A) If a defendant's designation of a transcript of proceedings requires expenditure of public funds, trial counsel for the defendant (in conjunction with appellate counsel, if possible) shall serve, within 10 days of filing the notice, a statement of judicial acts to be reviewed, and a designation to the approved court reporter or approved transcriptionist requiring preparation of only so much of the proceedings as fairly supports the issue raised.

    (B) Either party may file motions in the lower tribunal to reduce or expand the transcripts.

    (C) Except as permitted in subdivision (f)(2)(D) of this rule, the parties shall designate the approved court reporter or approved transcriptionist to file with the clerk of the lower tribunal the original transcripts for the court and sufficient copies for the state and all indigent defendants.

    (D) Non-indigent defendants represented by counsel may designate the approved court reporter or approved transcriptionist to prepare only original transcripts. Counsel adopting this procedure shall, within 5 days of receipt of the original transcripts from the approved court reporter or approved transcriptionist, file the original transcripts along with securely bound copies for the state and all defendants. Counsel shall serve notice of the use of this procedure on the attorney general (or the state attorney in appeals to circuit court) and the clerk of the lower tribunal. Counsel shall attach a certificate to each copy certifying that it is an accurate and complete copy of the original transcript. When this procedure is used, the clerk of the lower tribunal upon conclusion of the appeal shall retain the original transcript for use as needed by the state in any collateral proceedings and shall not destroy the transcripts without the consent of the Office of the Attorney General.

    (E) In state appeals, the state shall designate the approved court reporter or approved transcriptionist to prepare and file with the clerk of the lower tribunal the original transcripts and sufficient copies for all separately represented defendants. Alternatively, the state may elect to use the procedure specified in subdivision (f)(2)(D) of this rule.

    (F) The lower tribunal may by administrative order in publicly-funded cases direct the clerk of the lower tribunal rather than the approved court reporter or approved transcriptionist to prepare the necessary copies of the original transcripts.

http://floridarulesofappellateprocedure.com/rules/2009/08/rule-9140-appeal-proceedings-i.php

So, Heart, does this mean that Hope's attorney (I thought she was a public defender) is quitting the case and another one will be provided for Hope for her (inevitable) appeal?

Please help me out here.

(Sorry for the lengthy quotes)

I cannot say for sure Brandi  but we do know that Hope was appointed a public defender.

From looking at Hope"s docket it looks as though items A through E in section D1 of the Florida Rules of Appellate Procedure have been completed, which would relieve the public defender of her responsibilities and make her illegible for withdrawal and allow an appellate attorney to handle the appeals case.  In Hope's case a public defender appellate attorney.

And I must add IMHO.
 

542010CF000143XXAXMX

   
2010-02-18   18   AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS
2010-02-18   19   ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER

Then we have:

2010-04-30   47   MOTION FOR REHEARING
2010-05-13   48   LETTER FROM DEFENDANT
2010-05-24   49   NOTICE OF APPEAL
2010-05-24   50   MOTION TO PROCEED WITHOUT PAYMENT OF COSTS, TO APPOINT
2010-05-24   50   PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR PURPOSE OF APPEAL AND TO DIRECT
2010-05-24   50   THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO PAY COURT REPORTER FEES.
2010-05-24   55   MOTION TO WITHDRAW AS COUNSEL SUBSEQUENT TO FILING
2010-05-24   55   INITIAL APPELLATE DOCUMENTS
2010-05-24   56   DESIGNATION OF PUBLIC DEFENDER, SEVENTH JUDICIAL
2010-05-24   56   CIRCUIT, FOR THE HANDLING OF APPEAL

2010-05-24   57   NOTICE OF APPEAL FILED BY DEFENDANT
2010-05-24   58   STATEMENT OF JUDICIAL ACTS TO BE REVIEWED FILED BY
2010-05-24   58   DEFENDANT
2010-05-24   59   MOTION FOR APPOINTMENT OF APPELLATE COUNSEL

010-05-26   63   ORDER ON DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR REHEARING
2010-05-26   64   ORDER ON MOTION TO WITHDRAW AS COUNSEL SUBSEQUENT
2010-05-26   64   TO FILING INITIAL APPELLATE DOCUMENTS
2010-05-26   65   ORDER APPOINTING OFFICE OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR
2010-05-26   65   PURPOSES OF APPEAL

2010-05-26   66   LETTER TO THE HONORABLE SUSAN WRIGHT
2010-05-26   67   LETTER TO THE OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php


(d) Withdrawal of Defense Counsel after Judgment and Sentence or after Appeal by State.
(1) The attorney of record for a defendant in a criminal proceeding shall not be relieved of any professional duties, or be permitted to withdraw as defense counsel of record, except with approval of the lower tribunal on good cause shown on written motion, until either the time has expired for filing an authorized notice of appeal and no such notice has been filed by the defendant or the state, or after the following have been completed:

    (A) a notice of appeal or cross-appeal has been filed on behalf of the defendant or the state;
    (B) a statement of judicial acts to be reviewed has been filed if a transcript will require the expenditure of public funds;
    (C) the defendant's directions to the clerk have been filed, if necessary;
    (D) designations to the approved court reporter or approved transcriptionist have been filed for transcripts of those portions of the proceedings necessary to support the issues on appeal or, if transcripts will require the expenditure of public funds for the defendant, of those portions of the proceedings necessary to support the statement of judicial acts to be reviewed; and
    (E) in publicly funded defense and state appeals, the lower tribunal has appointed the public defender for the local circuit court, who shall initially remain counsel for the appeal until the record is transmitted to the appellate court. In publicly funded state appeals, defense counsel shall additionally file in the appellate court a copy of the order appointing the local public defender. In non-publicly funded defense and state appeals, retained appellate counsel shall file a notice of appearance in the appellate court, or defense counsel of record shall file a motion to withdraw in the appellate court, with service on the defendant, that states what the defendant's legal representation on appeal, if any, is expected to be. Documents filed in the appellate court shall be served on the attorney general (or state attorney in appeals to the circuit court).


http://floridarulesofappellateprocedure.com/rules/2009/08/rule-9140-appeal-proceedings-i.php




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 27, 2010, 06:54:48 PM
After pleading guilty and being sentenced to 15 years, Hope called her mother and claimed her attorney did not explain to her what she was doing by pleading guilty. She was very tearful and angry in that call and basically blamed everyone but herself for her situation. IMO Hope thought she would plead guilty and get a light sentence and probation. When that did not happen she is casting blame on her attorney for ineffective counsel. In view of her accusations against her attorney, she is asking that a new attorney be appointed to handle her appeal. More drama from a sad character who does not want to take responsibility for her actions. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thank you, Blumonkey.

That's what I thought was happening.

And I think we all knew she would appeal. It's almost automatic.

Thanks again.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2010, 07:03:43 PM
After pleading guilty and being sentenced to 15 years, Hope called her mother and claimed her attorney did not explain to her what she was doing by pleading guilty. She was very tearful and angry in that call and basically blamed everyone but herself for her situation. IMO Hope thought she would plead guilty and get a light sentence and probation. When that did not happen she is casting blame on her attorney for ineffective counsel. In view of her accusations against her attorney, she is asking that a new attorney be appointed to handle her appeal. More drama from a sad character who does not want to take responsibility for her actions. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thank you, Blumonkey.

That's what I thought was happening.

And I think we all knew she would appeal. It's almost automatic.

Thanks again.
I believe the phone call between Hope and Katrina took place prior to Hopes court date and sentencing.  The phone conversation was played in court. 

In my opinion, Hope is young, dumb and stupid and did not know or understand what the hell she was doing.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 27, 2010, 07:08:07 PM
no rose colored glasses
Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #32
« Reply #1579 on: April 15, 2010, 09:42:43 AM »


this transcript was on NG's show- haven't seen any links to it yet. From WS
--------------------------
Letter Misty wrote to her relatives

I feel so bad about this s*** you know cause I didn't say it.
I was scare no one now what he said he would do you know that day when he would not go back to the house and he stayed at the story he put me up with a knife and said if I said he would come back and kill me.
He told me at the house he would kill me to so I didn't know what to do. He has a (illegible) raped me you know.
I knew Tommy was coming to get the gun but I didn't know it was gone and that is when Joe got mad.
Tom had walked out and that is when Joe took it.
You know I don't know where Tommy went.
I don't think he did s*** but I know he now.
Joe did they was so f***** up and I mean I don't know how Joe even drove home.
That is why the van has scratch on (illegible) he was so f***** up bad.
That is all for now.
I just wish I knew what he did.
Timmy and Chelsea please right me back as soon as you get this.  ::MonkeyEek::Oh please

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7184.msg1112814#msg1112814


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2010, 07:14:34 PM
After pleading guilty and being sentenced to 15 years, Hope called her mother and claimed her attorney did not explain to her what she was doing by pleading guilty. She was very tearful and angry in that call and basically blamed everyone but herself for her situation. IMO Hope thought she would plead guilty and get a light sentence and probation. When that did not happen she is casting blame on her attorney for ineffective counsel. In view of her accusations against her attorney, she is asking that a new attorney be appointed to handle her appeal. More drama from a sad character who does not want to take responsibility for her actions. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thank you, Blumonkey.

That's what I thought was happening.

And I think we all knew she would appeal. It's almost automatic.

Thanks again.
I believe the phone call between Hope and Katrina took place prior to Hopes court date and sentencing.  The phone conversation was played in court. 

In my opinion, Hope is young, dumb and stupid and did not know or understand what the hell she was doing.
Brandi this case may enlighten you.  97-04784 - FindLaw | Cases and Codes
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=fl&vol=97-04784&invol=1


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 27, 2010, 07:30:43 PM
After pleading guilty and being sentenced to 15 years, Hope called her mother and claimed her attorney did not explain to her what she was doing by pleading guilty. She was very tearful and angry in that call and basically blamed everyone but herself for her situation. IMO Hope thought she would plead guilty and get a light sentence and probation. When that did not happen she is casting blame on her attorney for ineffective counsel. In view of her accusations against her attorney, she is asking that a new attorney be appointed to handle her appeal. More drama from a sad character who does not want to take responsibility for her actions. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thank you, Blumonkey.

That's what I thought was happening.

And I think we all knew she would appeal. It's almost automatic.

Thanks again.
I believe the phone call between Hope and Katrina took place prior to Hopes court date and sentencing.  The phone conversation was played in court. 

In my opinion, Hope is young, dumb and stupid and did not know or understand what the hell she was doing.
Brandi this case may enlighten you.  97-04784 - FindLaw | Cases and Codes
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=fl&vol=97-04784&invol=1

Thanks, Heart.

Kinda makes my eyes cross and my brain follow though.

LOL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Blumonkey on May 27, 2010, 07:38:09 PM
After pleading guilty and being sentenced to 15 years, Hope called her mother and claimed her attorney did not explain to her what she was doing by pleading guilty. She was very tearful and angry in that call and basically blamed everyone but herself for her situation. IMO Hope thought she would plead guilty and get a light sentence and probation. When that did not happen she is casting blame on her attorney for ineffective counsel. In view of her accusations against her attorney, she is asking that a new attorney be appointed to handle her appeal. More drama from a sad character who does not want to take responsibility for her actions. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thank you, Blumonkey.

That's what I thought was happening.

And I think we all knew she would appeal. It's almost automatic.

Thanks again.
I believe the phone call between Hope and Katrina took place prior to Hopes court date and sentencing.  The phone conversation was played in court. 

In my opinion, Hope is young, dumb and stupid and did not know or understand what the hell she was doing.

Heart, the audio I am thinking of was after sentencing not the one where Hope says "If they think I am bad now, just wait until I get out !" and in referencing the court said "They can kiss my a$$." This was after she was sentenced to 15 years. I don't know where to find it. By the way, I share your opinion 100% .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2010, 07:57:43 PM
After pleading guilty and being sentenced to 15 years, Hope called her mother and claimed her attorney did not explain to her what she was doing by pleading guilty. She was very tearful and angry in that call and basically blamed everyone but herself for her situation. IMO Hope thought she would plead guilty and get a light sentence and probation. When that did not happen she is casting blame on her attorney for ineffective counsel. In view of her accusations against her attorney, she is asking that a new attorney be appointed to handle her appeal. More drama from a sad character who does not want to take responsibility for her actions. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thank you, Blumonkey.

That's what I thought was happening.

And I think we all knew she would appeal. It's almost automatic.

Thanks again.
I believe the phone call between Hope and Katrina took place prior to Hopes court date and sentencing.  The phone conversation was played in court. 

In my opinion, Hope is young, dumb and stupid and did not know or understand what the hell she was doing.

Heart, the audio I am thinking of was after sentencing not the one where Hope says "If they think I am bad now, just wait until I get out !" and in referencing the court said "They can kiss my a$$." This was after she was sentenced to 15 years. I don't know where to find it. By the way, I share your opinion 100% .

I don't recall ever hearing one after she was sentenced.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2010, 08:12:29 PM
After pleading guilty and being sentenced to 15 years, Hope called her mother and claimed her attorney did not explain to her what she was doing by pleading guilty. She was very tearful and angry in that call and basically blamed everyone but herself for her situation. IMO Hope thought she would plead guilty and get a light sentence and probation. When that did not happen she is casting blame on her attorney for ineffective counsel. In view of her accusations against her attorney, she is asking that a new attorney be appointed to handle her appeal. More drama from a sad character who does not want to take responsibility for her actions. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thank you, Blumonkey.

That's what I thought was happening.

And I think we all knew she would appeal. It's almost automatic.

Thanks again.
I believe the phone call between Hope and Katrina took place prior to Hopes court date and sentencing.  The phone conversation was played in court. 

In my opinion, Hope is young, dumb and stupid and did not know or understand what the hell she was doing.

Heart, the audio I am thinking of was after sentencing not the one where Hope says "If they think I am bad now, just wait until I get out !" and in referencing the court said "They can kiss my a$$." This was after she was sentenced to 15 years. I don't know where to find it. By the way, I share your opinion 100% .

I don't recall ever hearing one after she was sentenced.
Is this what you are referring to Blumonkey?

Apparently Hope was looking to only be sentenced to probation and drug therapy as a youthful offender. She stood before the judge and told him that she wanted to get her GED, go to college and become a physical therapist. She told him, “I let drugs control my life. I let my family down. I know I messed up. I want help. I don’t want to live this life no more.”
http://www.bloggernews.net/124415


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 27, 2010, 08:19:57 PM
Nancy Grace - April 27, 2010

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HOPE SYKES:  I`d rather go to (EXPLETIVE DELETED) prison. You got a lot (EXPLETIVE DELETED) up. I`m not going to boot camp because I`ll be -- I`m telling you right now, they think I`m bad now, wait until I get out of that.

KATRINA BELCHER, HOPE`S MOTHER:  Let me explain something to you, Hope. You screw up on anything at this point in the game, you will get 15 years.

SYKES: Well, I ain`t doing no damn 6 years mandatory nothing. They can kiss my ass. You might as well stick me with 15.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/27/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 27, 2010, 08:32:38 PM
Cummings cousin gets 15-year sentence
Hope Sykes pleaded no contest to one count of trafficking prescription narcotics
Published: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 at 6:01 a.m.
Last Modified: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 at 10:38 p.m
.

PALATKA - Hope Sykes - a 19-year-old cousin of Ronald Cummings, the father of missing Putnam County girl Haleigh Cummings - was sentenced to 15 years in prison Tuesday after earlier pleading no contest to one count of trafficking prescription narcotics.

The sentence by Circuit Judge Terry LaRue is the minimum mandatory sentence for the crime.

<snipped>

At the hearing Tuesday morning, Sykes had sought to be sentenced to drug therapy as a youthful offender. She told the judge she wanted to receive a GED diploma, go to college and become a physical therapist.

"I let drugs control my life," Sykes said. "I let my family down. I know I messed up. I want help. I don't want to live this life no more."

Friends and relatives asked for leniency, saying Sykes had learned her lesson. They pledged to support Sykes in her effort to continue her education and stay out of trouble.

Assistant State Attorney Jacquelyn Roys pointed out that Sykes was arrested Jan. 3 on an unrelated drug possession charge, yet continued to be involved with drug activity after being released on that charge, leading to her second arrest.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100428/ARTICLES/4281005



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on May 27, 2010, 09:57:37 PM
Thanks Janet  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Blumonkey on May 27, 2010, 11:40:19 PM
After pleading guilty and being sentenced to 15 years, Hope called her mother and claimed her attorney did not explain to her what she was doing by pleading guilty. She was very tearful and angry in that call and basically blamed everyone but herself for her situation. IMO Hope thought she would plead guilty and get a light sentence and probation. When that did not happen she is casting blame on her attorney for ineffective counsel. In view of her accusations against her attorney, she is asking that a new attorney be appointed to handle her appeal. More drama from a sad character who does not want to take responsibility for her actions. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thank you, Blumonkey.

That's what I thought was happening.

And I think we all knew she would appeal. It's almost automatic.

Thanks again.
I believe the phone call between Hope and Katrina took place prior to Hopes court date and sentencing.  The phone conversation was played in court. 

In my opinion, Hope is young, dumb and stupid and did not know or understand what the hell she was doing.

Heart, the audio I am thinking of was after sentencing not the one where Hope says "If they think I am bad now, just wait until I get out !" and in referencing the court said "They can kiss my a$$." This was after she was sentenced to 15 years. I don't know where to find it. By the way, I share your opinion 100% .

I don't recall ever hearing one after she was sentenced.
Is this what you are referring to Blumonkey?

Apparently Hope was looking to only be sentenced to probation and drug therapy as a youthful offender. She stood before the judge and told him that she wanted to get her GED, go to college and become a physical therapist. She told him, “I let drugs control my life. I let my family down. I know I messed up. I want help. I don’t want to live this life no more.”
http://www.bloggernews.net/124415
Thanks for looking, Heart. I had seen this one but could have sworn I heard an audio tape made after sentencing where Hope was on the phone having a melt down because she got the 15 year sentence. She was very critical of the attorney, the judge and was verbally abusive to her mom. I have searched to no avail. Hopefully this was not a dream and I am losing it !   ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2010, 05:24:25 AM
http://www.artharris.com/2010/05/28/exclusive-wrong-dock-searched-for-haleigh-body/



snip..

In the above jail video, Hank Croslin Sr. tells his daughter mistakenly that we had obtained the letter.

 :smt101 :smt101 :smt101


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2010, 08:40:55 AM
CN2Souls  posted:

Good Morning, everyone,
Friends who have worked and work at PDM say that there is a sight posted there in the employee break room and near time clock that states

“Attention all employees, that no employee is to be on PDM properties any earlier than 10 min prior to their shift and no later than 10 min after their shift ends. Supervisor has written consent is required for presence other than your scheduled shift. This includes the employee parking lot and Blacktop area in front of fence.”

Due to insurance reasons if injuries would occur.

They also stated this is in the employee handbook.

They also state, (However it is third hand they themselves did not witness it,) that LE Searched the whole property, every square inch of it.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5228282&postcount=403
   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2010, 09:16:21 AM
UCN: 542010DR000740FDXXXXFile Date: 2010-04-28Disposition Date: File Type: DISSOLUTION - DR02Judge: A W NICHOLS III

Plaintiffs
CROSLIN LINDSY KATE Defendants
CROSLIN HANK DateDocket Description2010-04-28001.CIVIL COVER SHEET 2010-04-28002.PETITION FOR DISSOLUTION OF MARRIAGE 2010-04-30003.SUMMONS ISSUED TO: HANK CROSLIN 2010-04-30004.FILING FEE RECEIPT 2010-05-10005.RTN OF SVC ON HANK CROSLIN SVD 05/03/10 DUE 05/23/10 2010-05-10DEFAULT AVAIL 05/28/10 2010-05-10006.RESPONSE TO SUMMONS : HANK CROSLIN

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2010, 10:19:03 AM
CN2Souls  posted:

Good Morning, everyone,
Friends who have worked and work at PDM say that there is a sight posted there in the employee break room and near time clock that states

“Attention all employees, that no employee is to be on PDM properties any earlier than 10 min prior to their shift and no later than 10 min after their shift ends. Supervisor has written consent is required for presence other than your scheduled shift. This includes the employee parking lot and Blacktop area in front of fence.”

Due to insurance reasons if injuries would occur.

They also stated this is in the employee handbook.

They also state, (However it is third hand they themselves did not witness it,) that LE Searched the whole property, every square inch of it.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5228282&postcount=403
   

 CN2Souls posted:

The Finger print punch in was implemented some time after March of 2009,


The people I know, worked there 2001 - 2008 and the other July 2009-pres

They believe it was newly installed after RC left

In addition, they say a lot changed after RC left.

The reasoning was due to other employees being detected and dismissed for punching each other employees in and out.

They thought that the camera at the time clock would prevent this but like what had been stated before; it was often videotaping the ceiling due to employees hitting it.

The sign, Employee handbook have been in place for at least 5 years however, the employee handbook is updated with new OSHA laws every couple of years.

As far as leave of absence there isn’t a section for if your family member is missing,
Only if they have died, maternity leave, or caring for a terminally ill immediately family member.

Any other leave of absences are based solely on a case by case manner.

Also all Crane operators have to have a State of Florida Heavy equipment license and a certification for especially for Cranes.

I check RC has none.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5228464&postcount=411


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2010, 10:57:58 AM
http://www.artharris.com/2010/05/28/exclusive-wrong-dock-searched-for-haleigh-body/



snip..

In the above jail video, Hank Croslin Sr. tells his daughter mistakenly that we had obtained the letter.

 :smt101 :smt101 :smt101


Nancy Grace - April 14, 2010

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, OFFERED TO BAIL MISTY CROSLIN OUT OF JAIL: Well, basically, if we go back to when Misty wrote that letter and then her sister-in-law in Massachusetts forwarded it to me over the weekend, I looked at and I thought to myself --

GRACE: Which letter are you talking about? Which letter are you talking about?

PADILLA: It`s a letter that Misty wrote to her relatives, including her brother Timmy, up in Massachusetts. Where she claims that -- excuse me?

GRACE: I`ve got it right here in my hand. Go ahead.

PADILLA: OK. Where she claims that Joe and Tommy came to the house and that Tommy left and that Joe took the child.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/14/ng.01.html
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 28, 2010, 11:00:55 AM
Thanks Heart  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Magnolia on May 28, 2010, 11:32:04 AM
http://www.artharris.com/2010/05/28/exclusive-wrong-dock-searched-for-haleigh-body/



snip..

In the above jail video, Hank Croslin Sr. tells his daughter mistakenly that we had obtained the letter.

 :smt101 :smt101 :smt101


Nancy Grace - April 14, 2010

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, OFFERED TO BAIL MISTY CROSLIN OUT OF JAIL: Well, basically, if we go back to when Misty wrote that letter and then her sister-in-law in Massachusetts forwarded it to me over the weekend, I looked at and I thought to myself --

GRACE: Which letter are you talking about? Which letter are you talking about?

PADILLA: It`s a letter that Misty wrote to her relatives, including her brother Timmy, up in Massachusetts. Where she claims that -- excuse me?

GRACE: I`ve got it right here in my hand. Go ahead.

PADILLA: OK. Where she claims that Joe and Tommy came to the house and that Tommy left and that Joe took the child.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/14/ng.01.html
 



The way I understand it....there is more than one letter.   The one that Chelsea is trying
to sell was written in May and in part says that the wrong dock was searched.
The entire contents of that letter have not been revealed.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 28, 2010, 12:11:19 PM
CN2Souls  posted:

Good Morning, everyone,
Friends who have worked and work at PDM say that there is a sight posted there in the employee break room and near time clock that states

“Attention all employees, that no employee is to be on PDM properties any earlier than 10 min prior to their shift and no later than 10 min after their shift ends. Supervisor has written consent is required for presence other than your scheduled shift. This includes the employee parking lot and Blacktop area in front of fence.”

Due to insurance reasons if injuries would occur.

They also stated this is in the employee handbook.

They also state, (However it is third hand they themselves did not witness it,) that LE Searched the whole property, every square inch of it.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5228282&postcount=403
   

Wonder why PDM supposedly went thru those security procedure changes, after what happened with one of their employees (Ron) caused scrutiny at their plant by LE?  I thought LE was 'satisfied' with what they learned about Ron's 'werk' and his schedule, alibi, etc. ?? 

Seems to me that *if* everything was so fine and dandy at PDM, there wouldn't have been any security changes there.  The timing of those changes is very suspicious to me.  Guess if there's ever a trial we'll learn and understand more about Ron's 'werk'.  Until then tho, am thinking I'll believe what those who also 'werk' there have been saying here there and everywhere, even tho they are on a gag order re Ronald Cummings.  Which of course, is also suspicious to me.  Cuz if nothing were wrong, why the gag order? 

 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2010, 12:19:43 PM
no rose colored glasses
Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #32
« Reply #1579 on: April 15, 2010, 09:42:43 AM »


this transcript was on NG's show- haven't seen any links to it yet. From WS
--------------------------
Letter Misty wrote to her relatives

I feel so bad about this s*** you know cause I didn't say it.
I was scare no one now what he said he would do you know that day when he would not go back to the house and he stayed at the story he put me up with a knife and said if I said he would come back and kill me.
He told me at the house he would kill me to so I didn't know what to do. He has a (illegible) raped me you know.
I knew Tommy was coming to get the gun but I didn't know it was gone and that is when Joe got mad.
Tom had walked out and that is when Joe took it.
You know I don't know where Tommy went.
I don't think he did s*** but I know he now.
Joe did they was so f***** up and I mean I don't know how Joe even drove home.
That is why the van has scratch on (illegible) he was so f***** up bad.
That is all for now.
I just wish I knew what he did.
Timmy and Chelsea please right me back as soon as you get this. 
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7184.msg1112814#msg1112814


Could it be that there is only one letter from Misty to Timmy and Chelsea and that one letter was revealed in its entirety.  In other words ... nothing about "a dock"?

Could it be that it is the recorded jailhouse conversation that Misty had with Grandma Hollars that reveals "a dock"?

Janet

++++++

Nancy Grace – April 15, 2010

FLORA HOLLARS, MISTY`S AND JOE`S GRANDMOTHER:  What I was told by Misty this morning was that Tommy and Joe took Haleigh and wrapped a yellow rope around her and carried her to the dock and tied a brick around the bottom -- the other end of the rope and throwed her into the river. Now, that come from Misty`s mouth into my ear ....

GRACE: She just said that Joe Overstreet killed Misty -- killed Haleigh?

HOLLARS: He and Tommy -- she said Joe Overstreet and Tommy wrapped the rope around Haleigh and carried her to the dock at the St. John`s River and put a block around the other end of the rope and throwed her in the river.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/15/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2010, 12:30:06 PM
(http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=GS&Date=20100527&Category=ARTICLES&ArtNo=5271047&Ref=AR&Profile=1002&MaxW=600&border=0)
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100527/ARTICLES/5271047/1002?p=1&tc=pg


Heart, thanks for this article and pic, back on pg 13. 

Just wanted to comment that it's real sad looking at the condition of the door behind Hank.  Thinking of what their life has come to.  And likely, their kids could care less.   ::MonkeyNoNo::



Just put more minutes on yer phone pa .. so Tommy & I can call you and waste the only extra cash you have.  Hank should just use that phone money to pay on his & Lisa's fines and let those two rot in their cell.  Time Hank to think of you and Lisa and let those two mouth running liars ... pay for thier own actions. 

Agreed, Grama!

He'd be doing them a service also, allowing them to pay the consequences for their actions, something I don't think they ever were taught to do before.

(And I still have very little sympathy for Lisa and Hank.)

Generally I don't have pity for those that don't help themselves ... you made your bed ... kinda thing.  I know Lisa has the theft charge, and Hank for the Dr. shopping.  But they truly have been bent over backwards with this HaLeigh case and are in the publics eyes.  They didn't ask for publicity, ask for funds to be interviewed.  Now there have been many convicts that have been hired to do various jobs. 

Hank & Lisa should not be paying for what their two kids have gotten themselves into.  Gosh there has to be someone in Putnam that is willing to offer Hank Sr. a job.

Hi Grama & Monkey's,

He looks like he is posing for a AC/DC magazine.  ::MonkeyDevil::





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 28, 2010, 01:19:50 PM

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::


from twitter.......


 Levi_Page
 
I wouldn't be shocked if Misty/Ron pimped Haleigh 2 drug dealers, like Shaniya Davis mother did 2 her. Parent pimping is a major problem
11 minutes ago  via web 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2010, 01:28:32 PM

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::


from twitter.......


 Levi_Page
 
I wouldn't be shocked if Misty/Ron pimped Haleigh 2 drug dealers, like Shaniya Davis mother did 2 her. Parent pimping is a major problem
11 minutes ago  via web 



Consider the source.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 28, 2010, 01:39:14 PM

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::


from twitter.......


 Levi_Page
 
I wouldn't be shocked if Misty/Ron pimped Haleigh 2 drug dealers, like Shaniya Davis mother did 2 her. Parent pimping is a major problem
11 minutes ago  via web 



Consider the source.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

He's just saying he wouldn't be shocked about it, if it were true. I would agree with that. It wouldn't shock me either. He could have been pimping Misty too - that's why he isn't upset
about it - maybe he got paid?

"My daughter is not a bicycle, she's not property." - Ron

In order to even make a jug headed statement like that, you first have to compare her to property in your head.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 28, 2010, 01:44:56 PM

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::


from twitter.......


 Levi_Page
 
I wouldn't be shocked if Misty/Ron pimped Haleigh 2 drug dealers, like Shaniya Davis mother did 2 her. Parent pimping is a major problem
11 minutes ago  via web 


Well, I would be some shocked, but not overly shocked.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: But where is this coming from? Just a fleeting thought?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Magnolia on May 28, 2010, 01:50:46 PM

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::


from twitter.......


 Levi_Page
 
I wouldn't be shocked if Misty/Ron pimped Haleigh 2 drug dealers, like Shaniya Davis mother did 2 her. Parent pimping is a major problem
11 minutes ago  via web 



Consider the source.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

He's just saying he wouldn't be shocked about it, if it were true. I would agree with that. It wouldn't shock me either. He could have been pimping Misty too - that's why he isn't upset
about it - maybe he got paid?

"My daughter is not a bicycle, she's not property." - Ron

In order to even make a jug headed statement like that, you first have to compare her to property in your head.


Well, I would be very shocked! ::MonkeyShocked::

Haleigh went to visit her mother every other weekend and I think her mother would have seen signs of
anything of that nature. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2010, 01:54:44 PM

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::


from twitter.......


 Levi_Page
 
I wouldn't be shocked if Misty/Ron pimped Haleigh 2 drug dealers, like Shaniya Davis mother did 2 her. Parent pimping is a major problem
11 minutes ago  via web 


Well, I would be some shocked, but not overly shocked.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: But where is this coming from? Just a fleeting thought?
This is norm for Levi.  Thats all I will say about that!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2010, 02:03:32 PM

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::


from twitter.......


 Levi_Page
 
I wouldn't be shocked if Misty/Ron pimped Haleigh 2 drug dealers, like Shaniya Davis mother did 2 her. Parent pimping is a major problem
11 minutes ago  via web 



  Levi_Page
 
Remember the case a while back on Nancy Grace where the grandmother pimped her grandchild for drugs? 2 minutes ago via web

http://twitter.com/Levi_Page

Levi is only creating and spreading rumors in order to get a rise out of those posters that some referred to as Ronettes.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2010, 02:10:26 PM

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::


from twitter.......


 Levi_Page
 
I wouldn't be shocked if Misty/Ron pimped Haleigh 2 drug dealers, like Shaniya Davis mother did 2 her. Parent pimping is a major problem
11 minutes ago  via web 


Well, I would be some shocked, but not overly shocked.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: But where is this coming from? Just a fleeting thought?
This is norm for Levi.  Thats all I will say about that!

Yup.

That's exactly what I meant when I said, "Consider the source."

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 28, 2010, 02:15:14 PM

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::


from twitter.......


 Levi_Page
 
I wouldn't be shocked if Misty/Ron pimped Haleigh 2 drug dealers, like Shaniya Davis mother did 2 her. Parent pimping is a major problem
11 minutes ago  via web 



  Levi_Page
 
Remember the case a while back on Nancy Grace where the grandmother pimped her grandchild for drugs? 2 minutes ago via web

http://twitter.com/Levi_Page

Levi is only creating and spreading rumors in order to get a rise out of those posters that some referred to as Ronettes.

I hope it is working, I friggin hate those slags. There is nothing attractive or becoming about Ron - He is a two bit abusive thug wanna be. He is a chest beater - a woman beater - a child beater and a flea. I squich him like big dirty cock-a-roach! ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2010, 02:19:10 PM
Issues with Jane Valez-Mitchell - February 23, 2009

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

RONALD CUMMINGS, HALEIGH`S FATHER:  Please bring my daughter home. She`s not yours. She`s not property. You know, she`s not something that you just take and say, it`s mine, or whatever. This is my daughter. This is blood. And I would like to have my daughter back, please. Please bring my daughter home.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/23/ijvm.01.html



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2010, 02:22:43 PM

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::


from twitter.......


 Levi_Page
 
I wouldn't be shocked if Misty/Ron pimped Haleigh 2 drug dealers, like Shaniya Davis mother did 2 her. Parent pimping is a major problem
11 minutes ago  via web 



  Levi_Page
 
Remember the case a while back on Nancy Grace where the grandmother pimped her grandchild for drugs? 2 minutes ago via web

http://twitter.com/Levi_Page

Levi is only creating and spreading rumors in order to get a rise out of those posters that some referred to as Ronettes.

I hope it is working, I friggin hate those slags. There is nothing attractive or becoming about Ron - He is a two bit abusive thug wanna be. He is a chest beater - a woman beater - a child beater and a flea. I squich him like big dirty cock-a-roach! ::MonkeyHaHa::

...and to me there is nothing attractive about spreading rumors in order to get a rise out of posters or gain an audience. Doesn't look good on Nancy Grace and doesn't look good on Levi Page to me ...at all.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2010, 02:32:22 PM

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::


from twitter.......


 Levi_Page
 
I wouldn't be shocked if Misty/Ron pimped Haleigh 2 drug dealers, like Shaniya Davis mother did 2 her. Parent pimping is a major problem
11 minutes ago  via web 



  Levi_Page
 
Remember the case a while back on Nancy Grace where the grandmother pimped her grandchild for drugs? 2 minutes ago via web

http://twitter.com/Levi_Page

Levi is only creating and spreading rumors in order to get a rise out of those posters that some referred to as Ronettes.

I hope it is working, I friggin hate those slags. There is nothing attractive or becoming about Ron - He is a two bit abusive thug wanna be. He is a chest beater - a woman beater - a child beater and a flea. I squich him like big dirty cock-a-roach! ::MonkeyHaHa::

But he is yet to be charged with his daughter's death, the sell of his daughter for drugs, or any such thing.

I am not a Ronette, although I have been accused of such, I'm just a citizen that believes in innocent until proven guilty and there are many more likewise posters, wanting truth, not rumors and lies.

In my humble opinion, rumor mongering does nothing to help find HaLeigh or what happened to her.  It only serves to muddy the waters even more so.

RC may be many things grant you, and have made a multitude of errors in judgment, but at this point he has not been charged with the murder of his daughter, HaLeigh.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 28, 2010, 02:34:23 PM
I wouldn't be shocked if Misty/Ron pimped Haleigh 2 drug dealers, like Shaniya Davis mother did 2 her. Parent pimping is a major problem.
----

It would only become rumor to me if I didn't know how to read. jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 28, 2010, 02:49:03 PM
I wouldn't be shocked if Misty/Ron pimped Haleigh 2 drug dealers, like Shaniya Davis mother did 2 her. Parent pimping is a major problem.
----

It would only become rumor to me if I didn't know how to read. jmo
I want to clarify, I wouldn't be shocked if Misty and Ron did such a thing, I would be shocked for poor little Haleigh. I pray this is not the case  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I'm going to lean towards this wasn't the case, though.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Rob on May 28, 2010, 02:53:20 PM

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::


from twitter.......


 Levi_Page
 
I wouldn't be shocked if Misty/Ron pimped Haleigh 2 drug dealers, like Shaniya Davis mother did 2 her. Parent pimping is a major problem
11 minutes ago  via web 



that twit is outta of line with that tweet .... in my opinion. That's outrageous and over the top.

w r o n g to place that out there with nothing to support it. t o t a l l y w r o n g


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Rob on May 28, 2010, 02:58:29 PM
I wouldn't be shocked if Misty/Ron pimped Haleigh 2 drug dealers, like Shaniya Davis mother did 2 her. Parent pimping is a major problem.
----

It would only become rumor to me if I didn't know how to read. jmo

right, like IF Nay-Nay pimped Misty? oohhh wait that HAPPENED.

 ::MonkeyDevil::

I still say that tweet is outrageous and wrong. It's gonna start bad things.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on May 28, 2010, 02:58:42 PM
CN2Souls  posted:

Good Morning, everyone,
Friends who have worked and work at PDM say that there is a sight posted there in the employee break room and near time clock that states

“Attention all employees, that no employee is to be on PDM properties any earlier than 10 min prior to their shift and no later than 10 min after their shift ends. Supervisor has written consent is required for presence other than your scheduled shift. This includes the employee parking lot and Blacktop area in front of fence.”

Due to insurance reasons if injuries would occur.

They also stated this is in the employee handbook.

They also state, (However it is third hand they themselves did not witness it,) that LE Searched the whole property, every square inch of it.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5228282&postcount=403
   

Wonder why PDM supposedly went thru those security procedure changes, after what happened with one of their employees (Ron) caused scrutiny at their plant by LE?  I thought LE was 'satisfied' with what they learned about Ron's 'werk' and his schedule, alibi, etc. ?? 

Seems to me that *if* everything was so fine and dandy at PDM, there wouldn't have been any security changes there.  The timing of those changes is very suspicious to me.  Guess if there's ever a trial we'll learn and understand more about Ron's 'werk'.  Until then tho, am thinking I'll believe what those who also 'werk' there have been saying here there and everywhere, even tho they are on a gag order re Ronald Cummings.  Which of course, is also suspicious to me.  Cuz if nothing were wrong, why the gag order? 

 

Very curious indeed as is the fact they had to have guards for a few days during shift changes after they fired Ron, hmmmmmmm ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 28, 2010, 03:04:01 PM

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::


from twitter.......


 Levi_Page
 
I wouldn't be shocked if Misty/Ron pimped Haleigh 2 drug dealers, like Shaniya Davis mother did 2 her. Parent pimping is a major problem
11 minutes ago  via web 



that twit is outta of line with that tweet .... in my opinion. That's outrageous and over the top.

w r o n g to place that out there with nothing to support it. t o t a l l y w r o n g

Et tu, Brute?

He is just voicing a thought of what may have possibly been going on with the family dynamics.

I do the exact same thing every day. I don't want to live in China where every thought is filtered.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Rob on May 28, 2010, 03:09:39 PM
Things I'd find shocking IF they happened.

IF Leon Padiddily bought Lindsy a computer with a webcam and had cybersex.

IF Ron had Nancy Grace's cell number and called her or vise-versa and had phone sex while taking a bubble bath or riding a tricycle.

IF Tommy Croslin WASN'T a genetic mutant.

IF Misty and Tommy DIDN'T learn their crying, whining and bitching from Hank Sr.

IF Levi had a hair-transplant and the doctor used all the hair from his a$$.

 ::MonkeyShocked::




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2010, 03:12:06 PM
Things I'd find shocking IF they happened.

IF Leon Padiddily bought Lindsy a computer with a webcam and had cybersex.

IF Ron had Nancy Grace's cell number and called her or vise-versa and had phone sex while taking a bubble bath or riding a tricycle.

IF Tommy Croslin WASN'T a genetic mutant.

IF Misty and Tommy DIDN'T learn their crying, whining and bitching from Hank Sr.

IF Levi had a hair-transplant and the doctor used all the hair from his a$$.

 ::MonkeyShocked::





...

IF
Nancy Grace, Art Harris and/or Levi Page actually had a Bombshell that was factual and new and relevant.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 28, 2010, 03:13:35 PM

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::


from twitter.......


 Levi_Page
 
I wouldn't be shocked if Misty/Ron pimped Haleigh 2 drug dealers, like Shaniya Davis mother did 2 her. Parent pimping is a major problem
11 minutes ago  via web 



that twit is outta of line with that tweet .... in my opinion. That's outrageous and over the top.

w r o n g to place that out there with nothing to support it. t o t a l l y w r o n g
It is, totally wrong  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Back it up, when you through things like that out there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 28, 2010, 03:14:40 PM
Things I'd find shocking IF they happened.

IF Leon Padiddily bought Lindsy a computer with a webcam and had cybersex.

IF Ron had Nancy Grace's cell number and called her or vise-versa and had phone sex while taking a bubble bath or riding a tricycle.

IF Tommy Croslin WASN'T a genetic mutant.

IF Misty and Tommy DIDN'T learn their crying, whining and bitching from Hank Sr.

IF Levi had a hair-transplant and the doctor used all the hair from his a$$.

 ::MonkeyShocked::



::MonkeyLaugh::  Me too


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 28, 2010, 03:15:33 PM
That also Brandi, and that isn't going to happen.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 28, 2010, 03:17:36 PM
Things I'd find shocking IF they happened.

IF Leon Padiddily bought Lindsy a computer with a webcam and had cybersex.

IF Ron had Nancy Grace's cell number and called her or vise-versa and had phone sex while taking a bubble bath or riding a tricycle.

IF Tommy Croslin WASN'T a genetic mutant.

IF Misty and Tommy DIDN'T learn their crying, whining and bitching from Hank Sr.

IF Levi had a hair-transplant and the doctor used all the hair from his a$$.

 ::MonkeyShocked::





 ::MonkeyJnBox::

That cat does have the funky wah toupee! Ok, that was funny.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Rob on May 28, 2010, 03:18:41 PM

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::


from twitter.......


 Levi_Page
 
I wouldn't be shocked if Misty/Ron pimped Haleigh 2 drug dealers, like Shaniya Davis mother did 2 her. Parent pimping is a major problem
11 minutes ago  via web 



that twit is outta of line with that tweet .... in my opinion. That's outrageous and over the top.

w r o n g to place that out there with nothing to support it. t o t a l l y w r o n g

Et tu, Brute?

He is just voicing a thought of what may have possibly been going on with the family dynamics.

I do the exact same thing every day. I don't want to live in China where every thought is filtered.

yep me too.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

BUT I do hear ya and just think that the crazies on the net will think that's some sort of new allegation. That's all.

5 year olds have a hard time keeping a secret, and IF that happened Haleigh would have told GGMS - I imagine.

I guess I think when you are afforded a place on NG as an authority on this subject there are or there is a certain amount of decorum that goes with that. A platform that should not be abused with unsubstantiated TWEETS.

IF Levi NEEDS TO take it to the gutter, well, no one will believe him when he has something factual.

He's in the "twits that tweet" category with me now. Like that other idiot Elleflorida or whatever her name is.

Or maybe Memorial weekend started a lil earlier at Levi's place.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Magnolia on May 28, 2010, 03:19:47 PM
CN2Souls  posted:

Good Morning, everyone,
Friends who have worked and work at PDM say that there is a sight posted there in the employee break room and near time clock that states

“Attention all employees, that no employee is to be on PDM properties any earlier than 10 min prior to their shift and no later than 10 min after their shift ends. Supervisor has written consent is required for presence other than your scheduled shift. This includes the employee parking lot and Blacktop area in front of fence.”

Due to insurance reasons if injuries would occur.

They also stated this is in the employee handbook.

They also state, (However it is third hand they themselves did not witness it,) that LE Searched the whole property, every square inch of it.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5228282&postcount=403
   

Wonder why PDM supposedly went thru those security procedure changes, after what happened with one of their employees (Ron) caused scrutiny at their plant by LE?  I thought LE was 'satisfied' with what they learned about Ron's 'werk' and his schedule, alibi, etc. ?? 

Seems to me that *if* everything was so fine and dandy at PDM, there wouldn't have been any security changes there.  The timing of those changes is very suspicious to me.  Guess if there's ever a trial we'll learn and understand more about Ron's 'werk'.  Until then tho, am thinking I'll believe what those who also 'werk' there have been saying here there and everywhere, even tho they are on a gag order re Ronald Cummings.  Which of course, is also suspicious to me.  Cuz if nothing were wrong, why the gag order? 

 

Very curious indeed as is the fact they had to have guards for a few days during shift changes after they fired Ron, hmmmmmmm ::MonkeyTongue::


I thought the guards were to keep the press away.  IDK


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Rob on May 28, 2010, 03:34:25 PM
I think there is enough "gutter" in this case to titillate everyone. No one needs to make up pimps and child prostitution.

I'm off like Levi's toupee in a cat 5 hurricane.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

See ya all later.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 28, 2010, 03:37:17 PM
CN2Souls  posted:

Good Morning, everyone,
Friends who have worked and work at PDM say that there is a sight posted there in the employee break room and near time clock that states

“Attention all employees, that no employee is to be on PDM properties any earlier than 10 min prior to their shift and no later than 10 min after their shift ends. Supervisor has written consent is required for presence other than your scheduled shift. This includes the employee parking lot and Blacktop area in front of fence.”

Due to insurance reasons if injuries would occur.

They also stated this is in the employee handbook.

They also state, (However it is third hand they themselves did not witness it,) that LE Searched the whole property, every square inch of it.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5228282&postcount=403
   

 CN2Souls posted:

The Finger print punch in was implemented some time after March of 2009,


The people I know, worked there 2001 - 2008 and the other July 2009-pres

They believe it was newly installed after RC left

In addition, they say a lot changed after RC left.

The reasoning was due to other employees being detected and dismissed for punching each other employees in and out.

They thought that the camera at the time clock would prevent this but like what had been stated before; it was often videotaping the ceiling due to employees hitting it.

The sign, Employee handbook have been in place for at least 5 years however, the employee handbook is updated with new OSHA laws every couple of years.

As far as leave of absence there isn’t a section for if your family member is missing,
Only if they have died, maternity leave, or caring for a terminally ill immediately family member.

Any other leave of absences are based solely on a case by case manner.

Also all Crane operators have to have a State of Florida Heavy equipment license and a certification for especially for Cranes.

I check RC has none.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5228464&postcount=411

The people I know, worked there 2001 - 2008 and the other July 2009-pres

So this poster is posting information from someone that they know that worked or works at PDM.  Great to get first hand info, isn't it?????

If it were all to do with the timeframe ...WOULD BE GREAT.

Here we have ...WORKED THERE 2001 - 2008  ..This leaves any credibility  OUT as this was BEFORE HaLeigh was missing.

The other ... July 2009 to pres.  This also leaves credibility OUT as this was AFTER HaLeigh went missing.

So any information posted by this poster is nothing but hearsay ... bullchit.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 28, 2010, 03:37:17 PM
Things I'd find shocking IF they happened.

IF Leon Padiddily bought Lindsy a computer with a webcam and had cybersex.

IF Ron had Nancy Grace's cell number and called her or vise-versa and had phone sex while taking a bubble bath or riding a tricycle.

IF Tommy Croslin WASN'T a genetic mutant.

IF Misty and Tommy DIDN'T learn their crying, whining and bitching from Hank Sr.

IF Levi had a hair-transplant and the doctor used all the hair from his a$$.

 ::MonkeyShocked::



::MonkeyLaugh::  Me too

Best post of the day Rob ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 28, 2010, 04:32:35 PM
Quick O/T News -

Gary Coleman Dies

Originally posted May 28th 2010 11:36 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

Gary Coleman has died as the result of injuries he suffered earlier this week, the hospital tells TMZ.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2010, 04:39:44 PM
Things I'd find shocking IF they happened.

IF Leon Padiddily bought Lindsy a computer with a webcam and had cybersex.

IF Ron had Nancy Grace's cell number and called her or vise-versa and had phone sex while taking a bubble bath or riding a tricycle.

IF Tommy Croslin WASN'T a genetic mutant.

IF Misty and Tommy DIDN'T learn their crying, whining and bitching from Hank Sr.

IF Levi had a hair-transplant and the doctor used all the hair from his a$$.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

...

IF
Nancy Grace, Art Harris and/or Levi Page actually had a Bombshell that was factual and new and relevant.

I wouldn't be surprised IF Levi is related to the Croslins, after all he hails from the Nashville area.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 28, 2010, 04:40:42 PM
CHELSEA CROSLIN: I don`t know Joe. And as far as I know, I`ve been told Joe is -- is crazy. So I don`t know what he could do.


* Yet she let him sleep in her house with her kids there.

You have been reading my mind all over the place here, oh Great Salami!

 ::MonkeyJnBox::






Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2010, 04:53:13 PM
Things I'd find shocking IF they happened.

IF Leon Padiddily bought Lindsy a computer with a webcam and had cybersex.

IF Ron had Nancy Grace's cell number and called her or vise-versa and had phone sex while taking a bubble bath or riding a tricycle.

IF Tommy Croslin WASN'T a genetic mutant.

IF Misty and Tommy DIDN'T learn their crying, whining and bitching from Hank Sr.

IF Levi had a hair-transplant and the doctor used all the hair from his a$$.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

...

IF
Nancy Grace, Art Harris and/or Levi Page actually had a Bombshell that was factual and new and relevant.

I wouldn't be surprised IF Levi is related to the Croslins, after all he hails from the Nashville area.  ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Love2Read on May 28, 2010, 05:53:09 PM

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::


from twitter.......


 Levi_Page
 
I wouldn't be shocked if Misty/Ron pimped Haleigh 2 drug dealers, like Shaniya Davis mother did 2 her. Parent pimping is a major problem
11 minutes ago  via web 



Consider the source.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Amen! ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 28, 2010, 05:55:01 PM
CHELSEA CROSLIN: I don`t know Joe. And as far as I know, I`ve been told Joe is -- is crazy. So I don`t know what he could do.


* Yet she let him sleep in her house with her kids there.

You have been reading my mind all over the place here, oh Great Salami!

 ::MonkeyJnBox::






The Great Salami? ::MonkeyDevil::

It's a gift, really. ::MonkeyHaHa:: - just kiddin'

....but as you can see, I have been known to be a bit off.

(corey haim)

Carpe on March 10th, 2010 1:22 pm

He really was a LOST BOY. Sad. RIP

Gary Coleman will die this year.

Cause of death: Hemorrhoids


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2010, 05:56:12 PM
Misty Mirrored Cell Block Conversations Concerning Joe Overstreet

In April, the big news in the Haleigh Cummings murder investigation was that Misty and her brother Tommy had fingered their cousin Joe Overstreet as the murderer, claiming he dumped Haleigh's body in the St. John's River. Now Misty says that she knows no such thing, that in her earlier statements she merely reflected what people told her.

In a taped jailhouse conversation with her father, Misty denies knowing whether Overstreet played a role in Haleigh Cummings' disappearance. She attributes her previous statements about Overstreet's role to the effects of conversations heard in her cell block, which she described as people putting things in her head. Misty said of the Overstreet accusation, "...in my mind it's just like, you know, people keep saying this person, this person, so you know in your mind you're like well hey that's that person so you actually start to believe it, like the Joe thing. You just, I want to believe that because that's what I keep hearing and it just like makes like sense this is what happened you know, but I don't know for 100 percent that that was him. I don't know."

more...
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5432680/haleigh_cummings_murder_investigation.html?cat=8


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2010, 06:01:09 PM

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::


from twitter.......


 Levi_Page
 
I wouldn't be shocked if Misty/Ron pimped Haleigh 2 drug dealers, like Shaniya Davis mother did 2 her. Parent pimping is a major problem
11 minutes ago  via web 


Well, I would be some shocked, but not overly shocked.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: But where is this coming from? Just a fleeting thought?
This is norm for Levi.  Thats all I will say about that!

Yup.

That's exactly what I meant when I said, "Consider the source."

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I am shocked Misty knows what Garlic is.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2010, 06:02:52 PM
Misty's Mirror Reaction to Evidence that Ron's Calls to Her Weren't Answered

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office determined early in the Haleigh Cummings murder investigation that Ronald Cummings placed unanswered calls to Misty the night of Haleigh's disappearance. Misty's failure to answer Ronald's calls suggests the possibility that she wasn't at home to receive them. In reacting to this police evidence, it appears Misty may have mentally reversed her role with Ron to make herself the caller, then mirrored the evidence, saying she couldn't reach Ron that night.

In the jailhouse conversation with her father, Misty says of the night Haleigh disappeared, "When I called him that night, how come he didn't answer the phone? I called and called and he didn't answer the phone. And then as soon as I open the door he's there."

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5432680/haleigh_cummings_murder_investigation_pg2.html?cat=8


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2010, 06:06:26 PM
Is Misty's Black Guy Reference a Reflection of Ron, Jr.'s Comments?

Misty says on the jailhouse tape that police need to look more closely at Ronald. She refers to an unidentified black guy saying some people had Haleigh, and suggests that a closer examination of Ronald's alleged drug dealing is in order.

Misty's repeated recounting of a black guy with knowledge of Haleigh's whereabouts sounds startlingly similar to what two-year old Ronald, Jr. told his mother in March 2009, that a black man took his sister. Is there a black guy who claims to know what happened to Haleigh, or is that a distorted mirror reflection?

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5432680/haleigh_cummings_murder_investigation_pg2.html?cat=8


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Lifesong on May 28, 2010, 06:25:21 PM
Things I'd find shocking IF they happened.

IF Leon Padiddily bought Lindsy a computer with a webcam and had cybersex.

IF Ron had Nancy Grace's cell number and called her or vise-versa and had phone sex while taking a bubble bath or riding a tricycle.

IF Tommy Croslin WASN'T a genetic mutant.

IF Misty and Tommy DIDN'T learn their crying, whining and bitching from Hank Sr.

IF Levi had a hair-transplant and the doctor used all the hair from his a$$.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

...

IF
Nancy Grace, Art Harris and/or Levi Page actually had a Bombshell that was factual and new and relevant.

I wouldn't be surprised IF Levi is related to the Croslins, after all he hails from the Nashville area.  ::MonkeyDevil::


I'm just going to call that offensive and move on.  If you'd ever been to Nashville you'd know better than to post such an assumption. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: flutter1 on May 28, 2010, 06:30:05 PM

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::


from twitter.......


 Levi_Page
 
I wouldn't be shocked if Misty/Ron pimped Haleigh 2 drug dealers, like Shaniya Davis mother did 2 her. Parent pimping is a major problem
11 minutes ago  via web 


Well, I would be some shocked, but not overly shocked.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: But where is this coming from? Just a fleeting thought?
This is norm for Levi.  Thats all I will say about that!

Yup.

That's exactly what I meant when I said, "Consider the source."

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I am shocked Misty knows what Garlic is.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Sounds to me like Levi is just trying to shake the "money tree."  With nothing recent going on in the case, a three-day weekend coming up -- he is just trying to get the number of hits on his site up to keep the revenue coming in. 

Never can tell when you might need the $$$'s for a suit with long pants.

 ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2010, 06:31:56 PM
Things I'd find shocking IF they happened.

IF Leon Padiddily bought Lindsy a computer with a webcam and had cybersex.

IF Ron had Nancy Grace's cell number and called her or vise-versa and had phone sex while taking a bubble bath or riding a tricycle.

IF Tommy Croslin WASN'T a genetic mutant.

IF Misty and Tommy DIDN'T learn their crying, whining and bitching from Hank Sr.

IF Levi had a hair-transplant and the doctor used all the hair from his a$$.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

...

IF
Nancy Grace, Art Harris and/or Levi Page actually had a Bombshell that was factual and new and relevant.

I wouldn't be surprised IF Levi is related to the Croslins, after all he hails from the Nashville area.  ::MonkeyDevil::


I'm just going to call that offensive and move on.  If you'd ever been to Nashville you'd know better than to post such an assumption. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Well Lifesong, sorry if you took that as me putting Nashville down, because that was not my intention, not at all!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2010, 06:44:41 PM
Heart - It is the full moon and people get touchy. You comment was cute, not vulgar or mean-spirited, only playful.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2010, 06:57:50 PM
BNN Takes Sunday Off, No Haleigh Cummings & Caylee Anthony Coverage

Posted on May 28th, 2010
by Simon Barrett in Op-ed


With it being a long weekend we have decided to skip our regular Sunday broadcast. Monday is Memorial day, a day that I do hope everyone will at least spare a few moments to remember and honor all of the fine people that have lost their lives in the pursuit of keeping America a safe place.

Both Jan and I want to thank everyone for their continued support for our coverage of the Haleigh Cummings and Caylee Anthony cases, and you can rest assured that the whole gang will be back on June 6. TJ Hart, Denny Griffin, Peter Hyatt, and of course the Barrett’s wish everyone a great long weekend.

It is easy to view Monday as just a day off work and care little for the reason for the holiday. I also held the same view for many years, a day off, is a day off, who cares why.

There is a reason to care, a reason that every one of us should appreciate. My grandfather lost a leg in World War I, my father was torpedoed three times during World War II, the ships sank in the middle of the Atlantic, miraculously he survived, even though to the day he passed away he had not mastered the art of swimming. Regular people do extraordinary things when their country asks them to.

Please take just a few moments on Monday and honor the great people that have given their lives to give us what we have today.

I also recommend that you read there two articles, the first is just a DVD review, but a DVD that moved me, the second is an account of the final outcome.

Do not get me wrong, I am most concerned about our ‘here and now’. I care deeply about the plight of little children. Haleigh and Caylee have become a statistic, no child should be that. Equally no parent or wife wants to receive that awful letter or visit explaining that their son or husband is not coming back. How many people have heard those words? I may not agree with what is happening in Iraq or Afghanistan, but I deeply admire the young men and women that have taken on this quest.

Have a thoughtful weekend.

Simon and Jan Barrett
http://www.bloggernews.net/124628


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2010, 06:59:49 PM
Heart - It is the full moon and people get touchy. You comment was cute, not vulgar or mean-spirited, only playful.
Thanks seahorse, it was not meant to offend any monkey, and my apology if it did.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Lifesong on May 28, 2010, 07:03:34 PM
Well Lifesong, sorry if you took that as me putting Nashville down, because that was not my intention, not at all!

Thanks, Heart, I appreciate it, but I do think it was my mistake.

Ever since Flora came on the scene I've seen some snide comments about Nashville come through the thread.  Your remark was about Levi, not about Nashville and I shouldn't have reacted so quickly.  Please forgive...

 ::monkeywine2::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2010, 07:14:37 PM
Heart,thanks for the updates.   ::HelloKitty::   ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2010, 07:18:43 PM
Zaha posted:

Chelseas update in myspace http://www.myspace.com/chelsea_croslin

Last Login: 27/05/2010

Mood: i want my life b (with a little face).. I am asuming it means she wants HER life back!! What about HaLeigh's life????

OMG! UNREAL!!

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5230233&postcount=23

(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/137/m_71a2a2f69dea4502a29aefdabf3d2df8.jpg)
Mood:  i want my life b(http://x.myspacecdn.com/images/blog/moods/iBrads/awake.gif)

we love you haleigh
Chelsea Croslin

Last Login: 5/27/2010 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2010, 07:19:40 PM
Well Lifesong, sorry if you took that as me putting Nashville down, because that was not my intention, not at all!

Thanks, Heart, I appreciate it, but I do think it was my mistake.

Ever since Flora came on the scene I've seen some snide comments about Nashville come through the thread.  Your remark was about Levi, not about Nashville and I shouldn't have reacted so quickly.  Please forgive...

 ::monkeywine2::
::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2010, 07:22:09 PM
Heart,thanks for the updates.   ::HelloKitty::   ::monkeywine2::
::HelloKitty:: You  know that you are welcome trim!
Hope you have a nice 3 day weekend planned!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2010, 07:51:03 PM
O/T

Flagler Beach student's missing children’s poster wins for state in national contest

The Florida Department of Law Enforcement says 46,965 children were reported missing in the state in 2009. Florida's Missing Endangered Persons Information Clearinghouse, housed at FDLE, provided direct assistance in the recovery of 108 of them. Florida will hold its official statewide commemoration of missing children on Sept. 13 at the state Capitol, recognizing the efforts of Florida's police, citizens, and individuals in the search and recovery of missing children.

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-05-25/story/flagler-beach-students-missing-children%E2%80%99s-poster-wins-state-national


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2010, 08:31:14 PM

Jan Barrett said,

in May 28th, 2010 at 6:49 pm

For those that insist that we give them the missing videos and audios, let me make this clear. We do NOT physically have the CD and DVD’s that have been released. We are investigating what happened to the remainder of them but as of now we have published everything we have.

So TracyM if you are only coming back here to see them then you will have to wait. Please try to remember we are not obligated to publish these but we do it as a courtesy to all of you. We have NEVER held back on any of them and if that is what you are implying that we are doing then you are so wrong.

And Cj I never said sillygirl was lying but we simply don’t physically have the tapes. We are checking into this.

We will publish them if they exist.

I do hope this clears this up about this.

Have a safe and great weekend everyone.

Jan Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/124628


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 28, 2010, 08:52:50 PM

Jan Barrett said,

in May 28th, 2010 at 6:49 pm

For those that insist that we give them the missing videos and audios, let me make this clear. We do NOT physically have the CD and DVD’s that have been released. We are investigating what happened to the remainder of them but as of now we have published everything we have.

So TracyM if you are only coming back here to see them then you will have to wait. Please try to remember we are not obligated to publish these but we do it as a courtesy to all of you. We have NEVER held back on any of them and if that is what you are implying that we are doing then you are so wrong.

And Cj I never said sillygirl was lying but we simply don’t physically have the tapes. We are checking into this.

We will publish them if they exist.

I do hope this clears this up about this.

Have a safe and great weekend everyone.

Jan Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/124628

 ::MonkeyEek::


I smell a stinky in the making ::piggy::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 28, 2010, 09:13:38 PM
Well Lifesong, sorry if you took that as me putting Nashville down, because that was not my intention, not at all!

Thanks, Heart, I appreciate it, but I do think it was my mistake.

Ever since Flora came on the scene I've seen some snide comments about Nashville come through the thread.  Your remark was about Levi, not about Nashville and I shouldn't have reacted so quickly.  Please forgive...

 ::monkeywine2::
::MonkeyKiss::

I have been on the boards for many years now.  Have seen some comments directed to one particular race or areas.

We have to remember that there are good and bad in all areas, races and religions.  We have to overlook comments sometimes as they are not directly meant to offend anyone in particular. 

Nice to see a post to clarify the comment.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2010, 09:31:47 PM
Heart - It is the full moon and people get touchy. You comment was cute, not vulgar or mean-spirited, only playful.
Thanks seahorse, it was not meant to offend any monkey, and my apology if it did.

Heart,

Thank-you for all the wonderful articles you post and keeping us Monkeys informed.
O.T. Do you know where I can get a Nancy Grace T-Shirt? I want to wear one day and night.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2010, 09:33:38 PM
O/T

Flagler Beach student's missing children’s poster wins for state in national contest

The Florida Department of Law Enforcement says 46,965 children were reported missing in the state in 2009. Florida's Missing Endangered Persons Information Clearinghouse, housed at FDLE, provided direct assistance in the recovery of 108 of them. Florida will hold its official statewide commemoration of missing children on Sept. 13 at the state Capitol, recognizing the efforts of Florida's police, citizens, and individuals in the search and recovery of missing children.

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-05-25/story/flagler-beach-students-missing-children%E2%80%99s-poster-wins-state-national

(http://jacksonville.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/story_slideshow_thumb/DeLeon%20FL%20Winner.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 28, 2010, 10:02:09 PM
Heart - It is the full moon and people get touchy. You comment was cute, not vulgar or mean-spirited, only playful.
Thanks seahorse, it was not meant to offend any monkey, and my apology if it did.

Heart,

Thank-you for all the wonderful articles you post and keeping us Monkeys informed.
O.T. Do you know where I can get a Nancy Grace T-Shirt? I want to wear one day and night.  ::MonkeyDevil::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyDevil::


fast shipping!! 
http://shop.cafepress.com/i-heart-nancy-grace (http://shop.cafepress.com/i-heart-nancy-grace)


Is there a full moon tonight??   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: carpe noctem on May 28, 2010, 10:47:48 PM
She cropped it!


(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/k.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2010, 11:23:35 PM
(http://mylifeofcrime.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/haleigh-cummings.jpg)

JUSTICE FOR HALEIGH !!!

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 29, 2010, 01:20:55 AM
Misty Mirrored Cell Block Conversations Concerning Joe Overstreet

In April, the big news in the Haleigh Cummings murder investigation was that Misty and her brother Tommy had fingered their cousin Joe Overstreet as the murderer, claiming he dumped Haleigh's body in the St. John's River. Now Misty says that she knows no such thing, that in her earlier statements she merely reflected what people told her.

In a taped jailhouse conversation with her father, Misty denies knowing whether Overstreet played a role in Haleigh Cummings' disappearance. She attributes her previous statements about Overstreet's role to the effects of conversations heard in her cell block, which she described as people putting things in her head. Misty said of the Overstreet accusation, "...in my mind it's just like, you know, people keep saying this person, this person, so you know in your mind you're like well hey that's that person so you actually start to believe it, like the Joe thing. You just, I want to believe that because that's what I keep hearing and it just like makes like sense this is what happened you know, but I don't know for 100 percent that that was him. I don't know."

more...
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5432680/haleigh_cummings_murder_investigation.html?cat=8

But, there is so much empty storage space in there, at least someone is using it!   ::MonkeyRoll::

Misty, you are not stupid.  Stop blaming others.  Tell the truth!

 ::MonkeyMad::




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 29, 2010, 01:44:35 AM
Alot of plea deals are made before a trial..

UCN: 542010CF000144XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-01-21 Judge: TERRY J LARUE   
Defense Atty: SHOEMAKER, TERRY J 

Defendant
CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 
Alias


Date # Docket Description
2010-01-21 1 COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (1/14/10) 

2010-01-21 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A 

2010-01-21 1 TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE MORE THAN 28 GRAMS 

2010-01-21 2 WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $250,000.00 

2010-01-22 3 ARREST REPORT - 1/20/2010 

2010-01-22 3 BOOKING NUMBER: 10-00276 

2010-01-22 3 BOND SET AT $250,000.00 

2010-01-22 4 ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO FLAGLER COUNTY 

2010-01-22 4 FROM PUTNAM COUNTY, FLORIDA 

2010-01-22 5 MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE OF 

2010-01-22 5 BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS 

2010-01-22 5 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING) 

2010-01-22 6 ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE 

2010-01-22 6 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL (NEBBIA HEARING) 

2010-01-22 6 PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS RELEASE ON BAIL 

2010-01-22 7 ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO FLAGLER COUNTY 

2010-01-22 7 FROM PUTNAM COUNTY, FLORIDA 

2010-01-22 8 MOTION FOR PROTECTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE 

2010-01-22 8 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS 

2010-01-22 8 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING) 

2010-01-22 9 ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE 

2010-01-22 9 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL (NEBBIA HEARING) 

2010-01-22 9 PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS RELEASE ON BAIL 

2010-01-22 10 FELONY WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED 

2010-02-03 11 INFORMATION - TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (28G - 30KG) 

2010-02-03 12 MOTION TO CONSOLIDATE FOR TRIAL 

2010-02-05 13 NOTICE OF APPEARNCE FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER 

2010-02-05 14 NOTICE OF DISCOVERY 

2010-02-09 15 ORDER TO CONSOLIDATE 

2010-02-10 16 STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT 

2010-02-10 17 WITNESS LIST 

2010-02-10 18 DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE 

2010-02-11 19 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-18-2010) IN JAIL 

2010-02-11 20 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (02-18-2010) 

2010-02-17 21 WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT,PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND 

2010-02-17 21 FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER (FAX) 

2010-02-18 22 ORDER SETTING CASE FOR PRETRIAL 03/31/2010 

2010-02-19 23 WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENE,PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND 

2010-02-19 23 FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER (ORIGINAL) 

2010-02-23 24 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL 

2010-02-23 25 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010) 

2010-03-03 26 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST 

2010-03-17 27 NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY 

2010-03-29 28 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST 

2010-03-31 29 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER 

2010-03-31 29 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE 

2010-03-31 29 CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010 

2010-04-07 30 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (05-13-2010) IN JAIL 

2010-04-07 31 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (05-13-2010) 

2010-04-26 32 MOTION TO REDUCE BOND 

2010-05-06 33 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:30 PM 

2010-05-06 33 MOTION TO REDUCE BOND 

2010-05-06 34 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:00 PM 

2010-05-06 34 STATE'S MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE 

2010-05-06 34 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S 

2010-05-06 34 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING) 

2010-05-07 35 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (FAX)(BOND HEARING) 

2010-05-10 36 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING(FAX)(NEBBIA HEARING) 

2010-05-10 37 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (ORIGINAL)(NEBBIA) 

2010-05-10 38 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (ORIGINAL)(BOND) 

2010-05-13 39 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER 

2010-05-13 39 STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUNCED READY FOR TRIAL 

2010-05-13 39 CASE SET FOR JURY TRIAL 07/19/2010 

2010-05-13 40 ORDER SETTING TRIAL DATE 07/19/2010 AND LAST CHANCE 

2010-05-13 40 PLEA DAY 07/09/2010 
2010-05-21 41 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-19-2010) IN JAIL 

2010-05-21 42 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-19-2010) 




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on May 29, 2010, 08:21:22 AM
Heart - It is the full moon and people get touchy. You comment was cute, not vulgar or mean-spirited, only playful.
Thanks seahorse, it was not meant to offend any monkey, and my apology if it did.

Heart,

Thank-you for all the wonderful articles you post and keeping us Monkeys informed.
O.T. Do you know where I can get a Nancy Grace T-Shirt? I want to wear one day and night.  ::MonkeyDevil::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyDevil::


fast shipping!! 
http://shop.cafepress.com/i-heart-nancy-grace (http://shop.cafepress.com/i-heart-nancy-grace)


Is there a full moon tonight??   ::MonkeyTongue::


Goodmorning Wkys and Monkey's,

I am overjoyed it is Spring  :smt112  Yes, I believe a Full Moon was last night, (no confirmation) I have the 28th circled on
my calendar, must mean F.M.

Thank-you for the link to NG's Tee's, she should have missing children on the T-shirts, that I would be impressed.

I am not a crime fighter, (well sorta) I stand up when I see sometime wrong and that itself sometimes can stiffle sometime bigger.

Lisa & Hank should be charged restitution (if Misty is found guilty of misleading detectives), M.C. was a minor and it should fall

on parent's shoulders (for the money it has costs for the searches) for Haleigh Marie.
 ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on May 29, 2010, 11:51:16 AM
 ::MonkeyDevil::  LOVE this tape, Lindsy is fed up with ToC's BS and she gives it to him big time!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyTongue::

http://audio.thesky973.com/m/video/31406728/tommy-croslin-jail-dvd-argues-with-lindsay-over-ldt.htm?pageid=28469


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: jules3699 on May 29, 2010, 11:53:36 AM
 Not sure if this tape was already posted but it is interesting.

Nancy Grace also takes a bit of a beating in this exchange...

http://www.bloggernews.net/124598


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on May 29, 2010, 11:58:19 AM
This is a partial transcript from the Cobra and Ron tapes:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105655

Pathetic when you consider this is just shortly after HaLeigh disappeared and Ron is talking about what a good F-ck Misty is ::MonkeyNoNo::  What a disgusting POS, if my child was gone the last thing on my mind would be a good lay ::MonkeyMad::

obra: that`s all i know, baby

ron: joseph edward overstreet

cobra: J E? i do know the extra part.

ron: joseph edward overstreet

cobra: you puttin` money on this motherf***** too, ain`t ya?

ron: I`m ummm…

cobra: 75 percent sure?

ron: no.

cobra: no? more than that?

ron: no, i`m not sure at all. …but i`m gonna tell you what…

cobra: did you have any enemies? i heard you was messin off drug dealers and s*** so, you know i was tryin` to run that s*** down. i don`t want to get you in trouble with drug dealers and s*** but, did you bring this drama to your house?

ron: no, absolutely not. here look, when i moved there, nobody knew where i lived, nobody. NOBODY… except Joe and Misty`s family and nobody, nobody, and Kristina...

cobra:Nay-Nay

ron: nay-nay, she`s the one that took misty to f*** greg, white boy, on stokes landing. yeah, she`s busted. yeah, she told me.

cobra: damn dog! damn dog! damn dawggggg!

ron: i love her, look. i love her. love misty.

cobra: i know you do, everybody who knows that know that

ron: i love that son-of-a-b**** so she had an affair, f**** it. a
good f*** and a half never had nothing to do with my daughter going missing.



ron: ok, cuz that`s the same jr. hank jr. tommy… and joe were fishin` with austin, tommy`s son… at that dock… it got dark… that dock got swamped with alligators… he told me, he said holy f**** s*** i had to get my son out of there i thought lake placid was fixin` to go on!

cobra: yep

ron: you know what?

cobra: yep?

ron: joe said the corridor would be the perfect f****ing place to kill somebody…

cobra: bam

ron: dump them right in the water… let the alligators take care of the rest.

cobra: bam!

ron: do i think that`s where my daughter`s at? (answers own question) probably.  With zero emtion I might add
cobra: yea, well i`m trying to get a team down here brother and the only thing that`s stopping that right now… the only thing that is stoppin me is the sheriff and the f***** deputy wont call me back and they got the power to do it and they aint called me so… i finally talked to somebody from FDLE this afternoon and they gotta…

ron: well let me get on my phone and see if i can get john…



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 12:02:11 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: I'm sticking with my original thoughts that Ron knows what happened to Haleigh. He is beyond disgusting too me. Who talks like that when your daughter is missing, how good in bed the babysitter is?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 29, 2010, 12:02:40 PM
Ron always throwing John Merchant name out there like it was his best frend...
Then GGranny saying on one on the Ron tapes that Hardy or Merchant got him to change the visitation for him.. Why?  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 29, 2010, 12:05:08 PM
::MonkeyNoNo:: I'm sticking with my original thoughts that Ron knows what happened to Haleigh. He is beyond disgusting too me. Who talks like that when your daughter is missing, how good in bed the babysitter is?

Ron should of been arrested for being a sexual predator.. All he does is prey on young teenage girls.. He is sick in the head and beyond disgusting...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 12:08:49 PM
::MonkeyNoNo:: I'm sticking with my original thoughts that Ron knows what happened to Haleigh. He is beyond disgusting too me. Who talks like that when your daughter is missing, how good in bed the babysitter is?

Ron should of been arrested for being a sexual predator.. All he does is prey on young teenage girls.. He is sick in the head and beyond disgusting...
I agree  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 12:09:22 PM
Ron always throwing John Merchant name out there like it was his best frend...
Then GGranny saying on one on the Ron tapes that Hardy or Merchant got him to change the visitation for him.. Why?  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Sure would like to know this as well  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 29, 2010, 12:10:11 PM
All that is true, except for the 'Ron knows' part ;) ...well, he may know now, but he didn't before ;)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 29, 2010, 12:20:19 PM
Heart - It is the full moon and people get touchy. You comment was cute, not vulgar or mean-spirited, only playful.
Thanks seahorse, it was not meant to offend any monkey, and my apology if it did.

Heart,

Thank-you for all the wonderful articles you post and keeping us Monkeys informed.
O.T. Do you know where I can get a Nancy Grace T-Shirt? I want to wear one day and night.  ::MonkeyDevil::

LMAO seahorse! I read that and thought  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: jules3699 on May 29, 2010, 12:28:06 PM
::MonkeyDevil::  LOVE this tape, Lindsy is fed up with ToC's BS and she gives it to him big time!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyTongue::

http://audio.thesky973.com/m/video/31406728/tommy-croslin-jail-dvd-argues-with-lindsay-over-ldt.htm?pageid=28469

wow!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 29, 2010, 12:29:36 PM
I do not believe for one minute that Ron was an informant maybe an unoffical snitch to get him off charges. Why would he set up Misty when he had his cousin Hope with them on drug deals..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: jules3699 on May 29, 2010, 12:37:55 PM
I do not believe for one minute that Ron was an informant maybe an unoffical snitch to get him off charges. Why would he set up Misty when he had his cousin Hope with them on drug deals..

so True Jerseygirl!  It wouldnt make since for him to set up the one he loves and his cousin too!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: jules3699 on May 29, 2010, 12:39:49 PM
Ron always throwing John Merchant name out there like it was his best frend...
Then GGranny saying on one on the Ron tapes that Hardy or Merchant got him to change the visitation for him.. Why?  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I was thinking the same thing!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: jules3699 on May 29, 2010, 12:55:07 PM
the statement from Ron's attorney

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH192qUyVgo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 29, 2010, 01:10:50 PM
RON CUMMINGS - INFORMANT?

Issues with Jane Velez-Mitchell - February 29, 2009

JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST:  JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST:  And new questions emerge about Ronald`s arrest record. He fiercely denies reports he was a police informant. But why were his drug charges mysteriously dropped? We`ll take a closer look at this issue.

<snipped>

VELEZ-MITCHEL: ... have you talked to him about this speculation that he might have been a drug informant for the cops? Because the cops are refusing to say one way or another. They were asked on Headline News, and they said, "We`re not going to comment."

REV. JERRY WRIGHT, CUMMINGS FAMILY PASTOR: You`re correct. He told me absolutely not. He was not an informant for the Putnam County Sheriff`s Office. He was not an informant (UNINTELLIGIBLE). He was not an informant in any way, shape, and form. That`s not saying he didn`t do some things he regrets, but he was not an official informant. That is correct.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/25/ijvm.01.html
 

Issues with Jane Velez-Mitchell - February 29, 2009

CRYSTAL CUMMINGS, SISTER OF RON CUMMINGS: Right now I`m at work. I tried to get a hold of you last night, and I couldn`t. I had to come home to take care of -- I have a daughter myself. And I had to come home and take care of her. But I will be back down there tomorrow. I just wanted to speak on his behalf.

JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST: Yes.

C. CUMMINGS: Because he was told not to speak to anybody by the detectives.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, speak on his behalf then. There`s so much speculation surrounding his history, and he was confronted with this question, was he ever a drug informant for police.

Again, not to suggest that he did anything with his daughter, but that perhaps somebody might want to retaliate against them. He said no, but others have looked at his record. I mean, we`re talking about high-powered prosecutors have said this seems very indicative of somebody who would have gotten a pass to be an informant.

C. CUMMINGS: Right. It is my understanding that he has had lawyers cover -- cover his case. He was put on probation and successfully completed all of that. It was held for adjudication.

I know that he is not an informant. ...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/25/ijvm.01.html
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: jules3699 on May 29, 2010, 01:20:51 PM

http://www.bloggernews.net/124337

Part two - Ron talks about the gun that Joe took from him and put in a ditch...

but on here he says the opposite.  (I am wondering why this gun has so much importants in Haleigh's disappearance.)

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1506707/haleigh_cummings_is_missing_and_rumors_pg2.html?cat=17

Another rumor centered around an argument that Ronald Cummings had had with "Joe the Cousin" on the same day that Haleigh Cummings went missing. Ronald Cummings denies that there was such an argument. "There was no fight with a cousin over a gun," Cummings said. "I don't know where people are getting their information from, but people say a lot of things and they don't always know what they are talking about."


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 01:25:52 PM
::MonkeyDevil::  LOVE this tape, Lindsy is fed up with ToC's BS and she gives it to him big time!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyTongue::

http://audio.thesky973.com/m/video/31406728/tommy-croslin-jail-dvd-argues-with-lindsay-over-ldt.htm?pageid=28469

wow!
I'm listening now,  ::MonkeyEek::    Why is Lindsy even bothering with this phone call? It is obvious she doesn't want to be there, can't blame her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 01:27:49 PM
Lindsy had to put other clothes on before she could talk to him on the jail phone, her shorts were too short  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 01:31:48 PM
You could cut the silence with the phone call with a knife  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 29, 2010, 01:40:48 PM
::MonkeyDevil::  LOVE this tape, Lindsy is fed up with ToC's BS and she gives it to him big time!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyTongue::

http://audio.thesky973.com/m/video/31406728/tommy-croslin-jail-dvd-argues-with-lindsay-over-ldt.htm?pageid=28469

wow!
I'm listening now,  ::MonkeyEek::    Why is Lindsy even bothering with this phone call? It is obvious she doesn't want to be there, can't blame her.

I am surprised she even went to the jail...I think the lawyer revealed some truth to Lindsy...and not to talk about it on the phone.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 29, 2010, 01:42:23 PM
Lindsy had to put other clothes on before she could talk to him on the jail phone, her shorts were too short  ::MonkeyEek::

If the Croslins care and want Haleigh found cut the money in their accounts and do not make or except any phone call and do not visit.. They should have better things to do..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 29, 2010, 01:43:57 PM
Sorry No Rose I should of tagged off your other quote...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: jules3699 on May 29, 2010, 01:49:23 PM
http://www.bloggernews.net/124337

audo for part four
MADJGNLAW said,in April 18th, 2010 at 7:49 am Audio four

Very Very hard to hear as well even with a good head set, still appreciate Simon for releasing these. Helps see the bigger picture.

Ron says He is a liar? Did not get to hear what was asked when he answered that, he then goes on to say.

She (CS?) got paid about $10,000 to say that stuff about Ron/his family on T.V.? I assume bring out the truth about his drugs and abuse? Ron denies it.

Cobra mentioned a lead detective on the case that got caught with cocaine, pot and put on desk duty?

Ron then mentioned , Everybody is going to be subpoena to court. Then Ron mentioned a cop Christ Midltn.? But that he was not sure.

Cobra asked Ron, Who got caught with cocaine, pot and put on desk duty? Ron said not Merchant.

Ron said he can get Merchant get Merchant there right now..

Ron mentions Dec of 2005. Said CS owed him around $4000, but that now it’s like $14,000?

This was said really odd,not sure if it is due to the tape or what. But Ron just says..in a strange way…hey man you know what, my daughter was stole Feb 10th.

You know whats crazy. My daughter comes up missing Feb 10th, he told Misty to call 911. At 3:26 the call was made, he must of gotten home at 3:23.

Ron said that LE asked him if he was home that night. He said that LE kept asked him what took him so long to get to the home. Ron said he stopped at the store that he bought a pack of Newport’s, peanuts and other.

Ron then said that they kept asking him how did he get home at the time he did, when he got off of work at a certain time. Ron never mentions the time.

Ron then said that LE pulled all the tapes and LE asked him how the “F” did he get home at that time when he off of work at a certain time and got home at that time.

Ron said, well maybe that is how long it takes a cracker to drive home?

Cobra talks about a bush that is near the house that he is going to check and see if there is anything there from the van.

It was also said in this audio that Timmy woke at 1am and was not home?Hmmm, but nothing else that I could understand after that.

Cobra said that he saw the pictures of the door and something didn’t look right.

Ron said he has 4 keys to the MH, one that fits that front door, and talks about how someone could use a bump lock. Cobra said there was nothing bumped be seen the pictures of the locks. Cobra asked Ron about the door nob being upside down..

Cobra said that he talked to Misty’s side of the family and they are on his side. Then Cobra mentioned that they told him that maybe Joe may have a vengeance towards Ron.


I sure wish we knew the exact time he got off werk!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 01:54:37 PM
Sorry No Rose I should of tagged off your other quote...
::MonkeyCool:: Did everyone catch that comment from Lindsy about incest?  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 29, 2010, 01:55:26 PM
RON CUMMINGS - INFORMANT?

Issues with Jane Velez-Mitchell - February 29, 2009

JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST:  JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST:  And new questions emerge about Ronald`s arrest record. He fiercely denies reports he was a police informant. But why were his drug charges mysteriously dropped? We`ll take a closer look at this issue.

<snipped>

VELEZ-MITCHEL: ... have you talked to him about this speculation that he might have been a drug informant for the cops? Because the cops are refusing to say one way or another. They were asked on Headline News, and they said, "We`re not going to comment."

REV. JERRY WRIGHT, CUMMINGS FAMILY PASTOR: You`re correct. He told me absolutely not. He was not an informant for the Putnam County Sheriff`s Office. He was not an informant (UNINTELLIGIBLE). He was not an informant in any way, shape, and form. That`s not saying he didn`t do some things he regrets, but he was not an official informant. That is correct.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/25/ijvm.01.html
 

Issues with Jane Velez-Mitchell - February 29, 2009

CRYSTAL CUMMINGS, SISTER OF RON CUMMINGS: Right now I`m at work. I tried to get a hold of you last night, and I couldn`t. I had to come home to take care of -- I have a daughter myself. And I had to come home and take care of her. But I will be back down there tomorrow. I just wanted to speak on his behalf.

JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST: Yes.

C. CUMMINGS: Because he was told not to speak to anybody by the detectives.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, speak on his behalf then. There`s so much speculation surrounding his history, and he was confronted with this question, was he ever a drug informant for police.

Again, not to suggest that he did anything with his daughter, but that perhaps somebody might want to retaliate against them. He said no, but others have looked at his record. I mean, we`re talking about high-powered prosecutors have said this seems very indicative of somebody who would have gotten a pass to be an informant.

C. CUMMINGS: Right. It is my understanding that he has had lawyers cover -- cover his case. He was put on probation and successfully completed all of that. It was held for adjudication.

I know that he is not an informant. ...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/25/ijvm.01.html
 

CONFLICTS OF INTEREST WITHIN THE INVESTIGATION?

Putnam sheriff's son arrested on drug charges
May 6, 2010


http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100506/ARTICLES/100509617?Title=Putnam-sheriff-s-son-arrested-on-drug-charges&tc=ar


Heart
Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #36 5/04/10 -
« Reply #267 on: May 06, 2010, 10:10:16 PM »


around 5:05 on the tape:

http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/29737525/tommy-croslin-4-2-9-10-d.htm

TC: See that damn sheriff, his son is worst than I am on them damn pills. The sheriff's son,  hes worston those pills  than I am.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7653.260


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 01:57:10 PM
::MonkeyDevil::  LOVE this tape, Lindsy is fed up with ToC's BS and she gives it to him big time!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyTongue::

http://audio.thesky973.com/m/video/31406728/tommy-croslin-jail-dvd-argues-with-lindsay-over-ldt.htm?pageid=28469

wow!
I'm listening now,  ::MonkeyEek::    Why is Lindsy even bothering with this phone call? It is obvious she doesn't want to be there, can't blame her.

I am surprised she even went to the jail...I think the lawyer revealed some truth to Lindsy...and not to talk about it on the phone.
She is really pizzed, can't blame her, but does the little boy Austin have to hear all this?  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 02:02:14 PM
Well, that tape was interesting  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: jules3699 on May 29, 2010, 02:03:02 PM
Sorry No Rose I should of tagged off your other quote...
::MonkeyCool:: Did everyone catch that comment from Lindsy about incest?  ::MonkeyShocked::


No I missed it where was it at?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 02:07:42 PM
Sorry No Rose I should of tagged off your other quote...
::MonkeyCool:: Did everyone catch that comment from Lindsy about incest?  ::MonkeyShocked::


No I missed it where was it at?
Lyndsy says Tommy and Misty can be the perfect incestuous family right around the 18 minute mark.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 02:09:43 PM
I'm not even going into what she all said about Tommy's dog, will lose it if I do  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: jules3699 on May 29, 2010, 02:10:58 PM
Sorry No Rose I should of tagged off your other quote...
::MonkeyCool:: Did everyone catch that comment from Lindsy about incest?  ::MonkeyShocked::


No I missed it where was it at?
Lyndsy says Tommy and Misty can be the perfect incestuous family right around the 18 minute mark.

wow good catch NoRose!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 29, 2010, 02:12:03 PM
Sorry No Rose I should of tagged off your other quote...
::MonkeyCool:: Did everyone catch that comment from Lindsy about incest?  ::MonkeyShocked::


No I missed it where was it at?
Lyndsy says Tommy and Misty can be the perfect incestuous family right around the 18 minute mark.


I heard that...I thought...WTH..  did she find out that Tommy and Misty have been fooling around...now don't throw nanners at me, but I often wondered did these two play doctor when they were growing up...and continued to have check ups when they became adults.

Austin has no business at the jail ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 02:18:04 PM
Sorry No Rose I should of tagged off your other quote...
::MonkeyCool:: Did everyone catch that comment from Lindsy about incest?  ::MonkeyShocked::


No I missed it where was it at?
Lyndsy says Tommy and Misty can be the perfect incestuous family right around the 18 minute mark.


I heard that...I thought...WTH..  did she find out that Tommy and Misty have been fooling around...now don't throw nanners at me, but I often wondered did these two play doctor when they were growing up...and continued to have check ups when they became adults.

Austin has no business at the jail ::MonkeyMad::
I agree, you know I've been feeling sorry for Lyndsy, and then when I heard her say that about the dog  ::MonkeyShocked:: I thought do any of these people have any brain cells left. If she can't take care of the dog, and she hates the dog, one would think she could find somebody around there that she knows to take it in. And Lyndsy knows darn well what Tommy is all about, my question is, then why have three kids with him, bring one of the kids to the jail, and act all hurt and surprised?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 29, 2010, 02:23:37 PM
I'm not even going into what she all said about Tommy's dog, will lose it if I do  ::MonkeyNoNo::






 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


That poor dog...she needs to find him a new home...I saw a side of Lindsy that surprised me ::MonkeyEek::about the dog.

I guess Austin will grow up like the rest of them...he is receiving all the wrong lessons about life.
Lindsy made the comment about the kids will be in therapy and live in a shack...she needs to get the children in therapy now and not wait until it to late!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 29, 2010, 02:26:05 PM
Sorry No Rose I should of tagged off your other quote...
::MonkeyCool:: Did everyone catch that comment from Lindsy about incest?  ::MonkeyShocked::


No I missed it where was it at?
Lyndsy says Tommy and Misty can be the perfect incestuous family right around the 18 minute mark.


I heard that...I thought...WTH..  did she find out that Tommy and Misty have been fooling around...now don't throw nanners at me, but I often wondered did these two play doctor when they were growing up...and continued to have check ups when they became adults.

Austin has no business at the jail ::MonkeyMad::
I agree, you know I've been feeling sorry for Lyndsy, and then when I heard her say that about the dog  ::MonkeyShocked:: I thought do any of these people have any brain cells left. If she can't take care of the dog, and she hates the dog, one would think she could find somebody around there that she knows to take it in. And Lyndsy knows darn well what Tommy is all about, my question is, then why have three kids with him, bring one of the kids to the jail, and act all hurt and surprised?

 ::MonkeyKiss:: We had the same thoughts at the same time.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 02:28:06 PM
I'm not even going into what she all said about Tommy's dog, will lose it if I do  ::MonkeyNoNo::






 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


That poor dog...she needs to find him a new home...I saw a side of Lindsy that surprised me ::MonkeyEek::about the dog.

I guess Austin will grow up like the rest of them...he is receiving all the wrong lessons about life.
Lindsy made the comment about the kids will be in therapy and live in a shack...she needs to get the children in therapy now and not wait until it to late!!
I saw a side of Lyndsy also, and sure didn't like it. She sure does need to get those kids in some kind of therapy. Then she says all the Croslins are liars, did this just dawn on her?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 02:28:48 PM
We sure did have the same thoughts at the same time  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 02:36:54 PM
If Lindsy doesn't get her money from Hank she's calling the police and telling them he took her money, and drug test him also.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 02:38:05 PM
Is there another new tape also? The one I listened too was 33 minutes.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 02:44:01 PM
http://audio.thesky973.com/m/video/31405569/tc-jail-dvd5-4.htm?pageid=28469   This one just has sound.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 29, 2010, 02:44:42 PM
Is there another new tape also? The one I listened too was 33 minutes.

I don't know but when I clicked on the next set below the one that we just listened to..my computer shut down and said it was for my protection ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 02:45:30 PM
Is there another new tape also? The one I listened too was 33 minutes.

I don't know but when I clicked on the next set below the one that we just listened to..my computer shut down and said it was for my protection ::MonkeyEek::
::MonkeyEek:: I just posted a link to a new one, but it seems to work fine, and I got no warning.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 29, 2010, 02:47:50 PM
Is there another new tape also? The one I listened too was 33 minutes.

I don't know but when I clicked on the next set below the one that we just listened to..my computer shut down and said it was for my protection ::MonkeyEek::
::MonkeyEek:: I just posted a link to a new one, but it seems to work fine, and I got no warning.


Ok Thank you!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 02:58:34 PM
Tommy drew a picture of a bunny from another Easter Card, and sent it to Lindsy, and she is mad, because he used that bunny to use as a model  ::MonkeyEek:: She is telling Tommy that she and the kids are probably going to eat at a Soup Kitchen for Easter.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 29, 2010, 03:00:29 PM
Tommy drew a picture of a bunny from another Easter Card, and sent it to Lindsy, and she is mad, because he used that bunny to use as a model  ::MonkeyEek:: She is telling Tommy that she and the kids are probably going to eat at a Soup Kitchen for Easter.

This could get long now they are doing math ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 03:01:22 PM
Tommy drew a picture of a bunny from another Easter Card, and sent it to Lindsy, and she is mad, because he used that bunny to use as a model  ::MonkeyEek:: She is telling Tommy that she and the kids are probably going to eat at a Soup Kitchen for Easter.

This could get long now they are doing math ::MonkeyDevil::
OMG how funny, we are listening to the same thing  ::MonkeyTongue:: This is going to take awhile.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 29, 2010, 03:02:45 PM
I do not believe for one minute that Ron was an informant maybe an unoffical snitch to get him off charges. Why would he set up Misty when he had his cousin Hope with them on drug deals..

so True Jerseygirl!  It wouldnt make since for him to set up the one he loves and his cousin too!

Well, food for thought, when considering Hope and her involvement.  Katrina Belcher. Was Hope, Misty, and RC in the car with Katrina, did she drop off all 3 of them when Misty supposedly left her purse, camera, cell phone, etc. in Katrina's car? Was Katrina aware of the drug transactions?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 03:03:14 PM
Tommy is saying Ron isn't going to snitch his way out of these charges like the other times.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 29, 2010, 03:03:20 PM
Tommy drew a picture of a bunny from another Easter Card, and sent it to Lindsy, and she is mad, because he used that bunny to use as a model  ::MonkeyEek:: She is telling Tommy that she and the kids are probably going to eat at a Soup Kitchen for Easter.

This could get long now they are doing math ::MonkeyDevil::

Tommy said RC is a snitch!! I think Tommy has turned on Misty!! If he gets more than 25 yrs he would hang himself...and Lindsy itches. Lindsy likes to talk about herself.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 03:04:12 PM
I do not believe for one minute that Ron was an informant maybe an unoffical snitch to get him off charges. Why would he set up Misty when he had his cousin Hope with them on drug deals..

so True Jerseygirl!  It wouldnt make since for him to set up the one he loves and his cousin too!

Well, food for thought, when considering Hope and her involvement.  Katrina Belcher. Was Hope, Misty, and RC in the car with Katrina, did she drop off all 3 of them when Misty supposedly left her purse, camera, cell phone, etc. in Katrina's car? Was Katrina aware of the drug transactions?
I'll bet she was.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 03:04:55 PM
Tommy drew a picture of a bunny from another Easter Card, and sent it to Lindsy, and she is mad, because he used that bunny to use as a model  ::MonkeyEek:: She is telling Tommy that she and the kids are probably going to eat at a Soup Kitchen for Easter.

This could get long now they are doing math ::MonkeyDevil::

Tommy said RC is a snitch!! I think Tommy has turned on Misty!! If he gets more than 25 yrs he would hang himself...and Lindsy itches. Lindsy likes to talk about herself.
If I hear her complain about that sunburn one more time....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 29, 2010, 03:06:19 PM


Yikes..Timmy is a pro at sneaking out of the house ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 03:07:24 PM


Yikes..Timmy is a pro at sneaking out of the house ::MonkeyShocked::
Yes. Is anyone else getting a weird beeping sound in the tape?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 29, 2010, 03:08:30 PM
Tommy drew a picture of a bunny from another Easter Card, and sent it to Lindsy, and she is mad, because he used that bunny to use as a model  ::MonkeyEek:: She is telling Tommy that she and the kids are probably going to eat at a Soup Kitchen for Easter.

This could get long now they are doing math ::MonkeyDevil::

Tommy said RC is a snitch!! I think Tommy has turned on Misty!! If he gets more than 25 yrs he would hang himself...and Lindsy itches. Lindsy likes to talk about herself.
If I hear her complain about that sunburn one more time....

And her $6 stretch pants that are to big....LC grandpaw does not know she is at the jail....bet he will be pizzed.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 29, 2010, 03:09:17 PM


Yikes..Timmy is a pro at sneaking out of the house ::MonkeyShocked::
Yes. Is anyone else getting a weird beeping sound in the tape?

I got the beep.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 03:10:22 PM
I'll bet grandpa will be mad, and that constant talking about those new pants  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 29, 2010, 03:10:51 PM


Yikes..Timmy is a pro at sneaking out of the house ::MonkeyShocked::
Yes. Is anyone else getting a weird beeping sound in the tape?

I got the beep.



Now no audio


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 03:11:32 PM


Yikes..Timmy is a pro at sneaking out of the house ::MonkeyShocked::
Yes. Is anyone else getting a weird beeping sound in the tape?

I got the beep.
It goes away, thankfully.  Lindsy called Austin a hillbilly, and said he will have teeth like the Croslins, just what he needed to hear.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 29, 2010, 03:11:56 PM
Sorry No Rose I should of tagged off your other quote...
::MonkeyCool:: Did everyone catch that comment from Lindsy about incest?  ::MonkeyShocked::


No I missed it where was it at?
Lyndsy says Tommy and Misty can be the perfect incestuous family right around the 18 minute mark.


I heard that...I thought...WTH..  did she find out that Tommy and Misty have been fooling around...now don't throw nanners at me, but I often wondered did these two play doctor when they were growing up...and continued to have check ups when they became adults.

Austin has no business at the jail ::MonkeyMad::
I agree, you know I've been feeling sorry for Lyndsy, and then when I heard her say that about the dog  ::MonkeyShocked:: I thought do any of these people have any brain cells left. If she can't take care of the dog, and she hates the dog, one would think she could find somebody around there that she knows to take it in. And Lyndsy knows darn well what Tommy is all about, my question is, then why have three kids with him, bring one of the kids to the jail, and act all hurt and surprised?

I have not been feeling sorry for Lindsy. (I was hoping for the good of the kids she was finally seeing the light and getting out of that mad situation and getting a divorce, though.)

Lindsy has subjected those kids to a drug addicted, abusive, thieving, lying home environment for a very long time. If she had any wits about her, she would have taken them out of that situation long ago. But she stayed. And stayed way too long, IMO. For that, I blame her and do not feel sorry for her. She should have thought of her kids first. And she didn't, and I believe she still doesn't.

Just a sad shame, IMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 03:12:09 PM
That's weird the tape just ended.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 29, 2010, 03:15:43 PM
LMAO!

mudboggingqueen tweeted:
 
@TRINITY_00 Hey trin. Did you know Levi has a twin? ; ) http://twitpic.com/1hbp5p    about 1 hour ago via web in reply to TRINITY_00
http://twitter.com/mudboggingqueen

(http://twitpic.com/1hbp5p)
THE TWINS.Tell me Levi and Misty don\'t look alike.LOL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 29, 2010, 03:16:23 PM
That's weird the tape just ended.

Mine also ended.....wonder what Lindsy will say when Austin starts dropping"F" bombs if he has not already...Lindsy let "F" bombs blow on that audio.

Where is Lindsy's mom?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 03:18:34 PM
That's weird the tape just ended.

Mine also ended.....wonder what Lindsy will say when Austin starts dropping"F" bombs if he has not already...Lindsy let "F" bombs blow on that audio.

Where is Lindsy's mom?
Austin will be saying that word at school soon  ::MonkeyEek:: I don't know where Lindsy's mom is.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 29, 2010, 03:18:58 PM
Sorry No Rose I should of tagged off your other quote...
::MonkeyCool:: Did everyone catch that comment from Lindsy about incest?  ::MonkeyShocked::


No I missed it where was it at?
Lyndsy says Tommy and Misty can be the perfect incestuous family right around the 18 minute mark.


I heard that...I thought...WTH..  did she find out that Tommy and Misty have been fooling around...now don't throw nanners at me, but I often wondered did these two play doctor when they were growing up...and continued to have check ups when they became adults.

Austin has no business at the jail ::MonkeyMad::
I agree, you know I've been feeling sorry for Lyndsy, and then when I heard her say that about the dog  ::MonkeyShocked:: I thought do any of these people have any brain cells left. If she can't take care of the dog, and she hates the dog, one would think she could find somebody around there that she knows to take it in. And Lyndsy knows darn well what Tommy is all about, my question is, then why have three kids with him, bring one of the kids to the jail, and act all hurt and surprised?

I have not been feeling sorry for Lindsy. (I was hoping for the good of the kids she was finally seeing the light and getting out of that mad situation and getting a divorce, though.)

Lindsy has subjected those kids to a drug addicted, abusive, thieving, lying home environment for a very long time. If she had any wits about her, she would have taken them out of that situation long ago. But she stayed. And stayed way too long, IMO. For that, I blame her and do not feel sorry for her. She should have thought of her kids first. And she didn't, and I believe she still doesn't.

Just a sad shame, IMO.

I agree with you 100%  she seems to like the attention she is getting...very immature,


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 03:19:25 PM
LMAO!

mudboggingqueen tweeted:
 
@TRINITY_00 Hey trin. Did you know Levi has a twin? ; ) http://twitpic.com/1hbp5p    about 1 hour ago via web in reply to TRINITY_00
http://twitter.com/mudboggingqueen

(http://twitpic.com/1hbp5p)
THE TWINS.Tell me Levi and Misty don\'t look alike.LOL
They do look alike  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 03:20:46 PM
I have to agree now about Lindsy, I did feel sorry for her, but not anymore.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 29, 2010, 03:24:01 PM
LMAO!

mudboggingqueen tweeted:
 
@TRINITY_00 Hey trin. Did you know Levi has a twin? ; ) http://twitpic.com/1hbp5p    about 1 hour ago via web in reply to TRINITY_00
http://twitter.com/mudboggingqueen

(http://twitpic.com/1hbp5p)
THE TWINS.Tell me Levi and Misty don\'t look alike.LOL

hahaha

There are similarities!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 29, 2010, 03:31:57 PM
LMAO!

mudboggingqueen tweeted:
 
@TRINITY_00 Hey trin. Did you know Levi has a twin? ; ) http://twitpic.com/1hbp5p    about 1 hour ago via web in reply to TRINITY_00
http://twitter.com/mudboggingqueen

(http://twitpic.com/1hbp5p)
THE TWINS.Tell me Levi and Misty don\'t look alike.LOL

hahaha

There are similarities!

     (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image7-3.png)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 29, 2010, 03:40:55 PM
LMAO!

mudboggingqueen tweeted:
 
@TRINITY_00 Hey trin. Did you know Levi has a twin? ; ) http://twitpic.com/1hbp5p    about 1 hour ago via web in reply to TRINITY_00
http://twitter.com/mudboggingqueen

(http://twitpic.com/1hbp5p)
THE TWINS.Tell me Levi and Misty don\'t look alike.LOL

hahaha

There are similarities!

     (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image7-3.png)

Lawd help me...tell me it ain't so ::MonkeyJnBox::


Now my hinky is up with TC and MC...Lindsy made the remark about TC saying tell Misty I love her....does anyone think that TC and MC were bouncing the couch and Haleigh walked in on them...and all the two of them were thinking they had to keep  that a secret.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 03:46:31 PM
Could be mymonkey  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 29, 2010, 04:10:37 PM
Could be mymonkey  ::MonkeyEek::

Misty whines about having a visit with TC she wants to see her brother ::MonkeyEek::and as selfish as she is Misty puts money in TC account something just makes me think what  " if " after what LC blurted out....and also when Lisa ask TC about the couch he would not talk about it...sorry no link...on one of the phone calls.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 29, 2010, 04:13:06 PM
This is a partial transcript from the Cobra and Ron tapes:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105655

Pathetic when you consider this is just shortly after HaLeigh disappeared and Ron is talking about what a good F-ck Misty is ::MonkeyNoNo::  What a disgusting POS, if my child was gone the last thing on my mind would be a good lay ::MonkeyMad::

obra: that`s all i know, baby

ron: joseph edward overstreet

cobra: J E? i do know the extra part.

ron: joseph edward overstreet

cobra: you puttin` money on this motherf***** too, ain`t ya?

ron: I`m ummm…

cobra: 75 percent sure?

ron: no.

cobra: no? more than that?

ron: no, i`m not sure at all. …but i`m gonna tell you what…

cobra: did you have any enemies? i heard you was messin off drug dealers and s*** so, you know i was tryin` to run that s*** down. i don`t want to get you in trouble with drug dealers and s*** but, did you bring this drama to your house?

ron: no, absolutely not. here look, when i moved there, nobody knew where i lived, nobody. NOBODY… except Joe and Misty`s family and nobody, nobody, and Kristina...

cobra:Nay-Nay

ron: nay-nay, she`s the one that took misty to f*** greg, white boy, on stokes landing. yeah, she`s busted. yeah, she told me.

cobra: damn dog! damn dog! damn dawggggg!

ron: i love her, look. i love her. love misty.

cobra: i know you do, everybody who knows that know that

ron: i love that son-of-a-b**** so she had an affair, f**** it. a
good f*** and a half never had nothing to do with my daughter going missing.



ron: ok, cuz that`s the same jr. hank jr. tommy… and joe were fishin` with austin, tommy`s son… at that dock… it got dark… that dock got swamped with alligators… he told me, he said holy f**** s*** i had to get my son out of there i thought lake placid was fixin` to go on!

cobra: yep

ron: you know what?

cobra: yep?

ron: joe said the corridor would be the perfect f****ing place to kill somebody…

cobra: bam

ron: dump them right in the water… let the alligators take care of the rest.

cobra: bam!

ron: do i think that`s where my daughter`s at? (answers own question) probably.  With zero emtion I might add
cobra: yea, well i`m trying to get a team down here brother and the only thing that`s stopping that right now… the only thing that is stoppin me is the sheriff and the f***** deputy wont call me back and they got the power to do it and they aint called me so… i finally talked to somebody from FDLE this afternoon and they gotta…

ron: well let me get on my phone and see if i can get john…



I interpret that differently.  I think he is saying a good F&1/2 ( her weekend romp) had nothing to do with his daughter missing.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on May 29, 2010, 05:29:26 PM
Bearly ..I agree, with the way that the statement was meant, that her afffair didn't have anything to do with Haleigh going missing.
But it sure gave us a clue as to what kind of lifestyle they were having in the days before.
I really do think that that is what they were trying to cover up along with Haleigh and the events in the days before. These people are pretty disgusting. And that includes Lindsay.
Seems as if she is getting Gramps to support her and give her stuff with the understanding that she is done with Tommy ( can you blame Gramps ? ) and here she is visiting him in jail, and attending his court appearance. Maybe she is having a difficult time just cutting it off and needs more time for an attitude adjustment. Looking at the pix that were posted, it seems as if she has some very low standards.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 29, 2010, 06:37:30 PM
Bearly ..I agree, with the way that the statement was meant, that her afffair didn't have anything to do with Haleigh going missing.
But it sure gave us a clue as to what kind of lifestyle they were having in the days before.
I really do think that that is what they were trying to cover up along with Haleigh and the events in the days before. These people are pretty disgusting. And that includes Lindsay.
Seems as if she is getting Gramps to support her and give her stuff with the understanding that she is done with Tommy ( can you blame Gramps ? ) and here she is visiting him in jail, and attending his court appearance. Maybe she is having a difficult time just cutting it off and needs more time for an attitude adjustment. Looking at the pix that were posted, it seems as if she has some very low standards.

She did not give herself time to figure out why she was attracted to a guy like ToC to begin with.  She needs counseling so she does not go from the frying pan into the fire.  She has not given herself time to change into what she wants to be and what kind of man she is looking for.  Imo, she is going to wind up getting another "Tommy."

 ::MonkeyNoNo::




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 07:23:27 PM
Bearly ..I agree, with the way that the statement was meant, that her afffair didn't have anything to do with Haleigh going missing.
But it sure gave us a clue as to what kind of lifestyle they were having in the days before.
I really do think that that is what they were trying to cover up along with Haleigh and the events in the days before. These people are pretty disgusting. And that includes Lindsay.
Seems as if she is getting Gramps to support her and give her stuff with the understanding that she is done with Tommy ( can you blame Gramps ? ) and here she is visiting him in jail, and attending his court appearance. Maybe she is having a difficult time just cutting it off and needs more time for an attitude adjustment. Looking at the pix that were posted, it seems as if she has some very low standards.

She did not give herself time to figure out why she was attracted to a guy like ToC to begin with.  She needs counseling so she does not go from the frying pan into the fire.  She has not given herself time to change into what she wants to be and what kind of man she is looking for.  Imo, she is going to wind up getting another "Tommy."

 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Oh definitely, she is going to grab at any man she can get, you can tell by things she was saying on those tapes.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on May 29, 2010, 07:39:39 PM
Bearly ..I agree, with the way that the statement was meant, that her afffair didn't have anything to do with Haleigh going missing.
But it sure gave us a clue as to what kind of lifestyle they were having in the days before.
I really do think that that is what they were trying to cover up along with Haleigh and the events in the days before. These people are pretty disgusting. And that includes Lindsay.
Seems as if she is getting Gramps to support her and give her stuff with the understanding that she is done with Tommy ( can you blame Gramps ? ) and here she is visiting him in jail, and attending his court appearance. Maybe she is having a difficult time just cutting it off and needs more time for an attitude adjustment. Looking at the pix that were posted, it seems as if she has some very low standards.

She did not give herself time to figure out why she was attracted to a guy like ToC to begin with.  She needs counseling so she does not go from the frying pan into the fire.  She has not given herself time to change into what she wants to be and what kind of man she is looking for.  Imo, she is going to wind up getting another "Tommy."

 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Oh definitely, she is going to grab at any man she can get, you can tell by things she was saying on those tapes.

My thoughts also...Lindsy stated she was lonely...well she has 3 children that can occupy her time....I am afraid this whole situation is out of control...and when LC grandfather finds out LC is sneaking around and seeing TC in jail, she may be chitting in the hand that feeds her...Haleigh seems to be lost in this mess...I pray it is resolved but at times I have my doubts.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on May 29, 2010, 07:47:23 PM
She met him in HS. Maybe she doesn't know that everyman isn't a " Tommy ".
Maybe she will find out at her workplace. Get into a different world.. Be around normal people, people who go to work, are married ( or not ) , have children, take care of the children, make a living, don't live for / or do drugs, go out, have fun, just regular 9 - 5 stuff.
She did get thru that LPN probably in spite of him.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2010, 07:56:34 PM
She met him in HS. Maybe she doesn't know that everyman isn't a " Tommy ".
Maybe she will find out at her workplace. Get into a different world.. Be around normal people, people who go to work, are married ( or not ) , have children, take care of the children, make a living, don't live for / or do drugs, go out, have fun, just regular 9 - 5 stuff.
She did get thru that LPN probably in spite of him.
That's true, so she is obviously more book smart then the rest. She probably does think every man is like Tommy.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 30, 2010, 12:03:17 AM
I have to agree now about Lindsy, I did feel sorry for her, but not anymore.
In the tapes, LC sounds as if she is attempting to solicit funds from whomever she can, public, etc. with the woo is me sob dribble.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 30, 2010, 12:19:12 AM
http://www.bloggernews.net/indepth/Haleigh/may21/dvd5/tommyldt.mp4
Tommy’s LDT

Lindsy:  Hey

Tommy:  Whats up baby?

Lindsy:  Nothing, I had to go change cause I was indecent.

Tommy:  Do what?

Lindsy:  Yeah, I had a pair of shorts on.

Tommy:  Uh, I did that thing this morning, that was pretty stupid too. They didn’t ask me nothing.

Lindsy:  Can we talk about it, not talk about it?

Tommy:  Oh, alright.  You talk to my lawyer?

Lindsy:  Yeah, lets not talk about it.

Tommy:  Alright!

Lindsy:  So

Tommy: But it was pretty pointless

Lindsy:  You’re probably getting three years.

Tommy:  How you know?

Lindsy:  Cause!

Tommy:  That what he said?

Lindsy:  Yep!

Tommy:  Uuuh, we’ll see what happens. Hope not.

Lindsy:  All I have to say is that I’m not playing any more games, any more, I’m done, I’m done.

Tommy:  I know.

Lindsy:  Yep!

Tommy:  I hope I don’t get that.

Lindsy:  Well yeah you are. Just let you know. Told you everything that happens in there was going to make or break you.  And it broke you, that’s all I have to say.

Tommy:  No, no, no, no!

Lindsy:  Yeah, yeah!

Tommy:  No!

Lindsy:  You’re going down the same path your sister is.

Tommy:  I doubt it.

Lindsy:  Yeah, I know.

Tommy:  Nah you don’t.

Lindsy:  Yeah I do.
(talking to Austin) Quit, quit!
(talking to Tommy) So hope you enjoy your three years.

Tommy:  Why are you saying, talking like that for?  I doubt I’m even gone get that. We’ll see what happens. I was already told that wasn’t gonna help me anyway.

Lindsy:  I know, it didn’t, so.

Tommy:  It wasn’t gonna anyway, but its b/s any damn way. They didn’t ask me nothing.

Lindsy:  Will you stop, keep talking about it, k!

Tommy:  We’ll see what happens. I love yah!

Lindsy:  You’ve embarrassed me.  I have nothing to say to you.

Tommy:  How’s that?  Huh?

Lindsy:  What,  I stuck by you and made myself look like an idiot.

Tommy:  You did what now? Say that again.

Lindsy:  Stuck behind you, made myself look like an idiot.

Tommy:  Well shouldn’t yah?

Lindsy:  Not any more, no!

Tommy:  Well, that’s how its gonna be?

Lindsy:  Yeah, you pretty much made yourself look like an idiot.

Tommy:  I didn’t do nothing anyway Lindsy. So it doesn’t matter.

Lindsy:  Well, hope you can afford a lawyer when all this is over with.

Tommy:  Oh, I have one.  That chit didn’t, it was stupid any ways Lindsy. They didn’t ask me nothing about nothing.

Lindsy:  Oh well!

Tommy:  Not one question. It was a bunch of b/s. I’m telling yah it was not one question about my niece, so.

Lindsy:  Yeah, well I know.

Tommy:  There was not one question about anything. It was b/s

Lindsy:  Oh well, can you see how much time we have left.

Tommy:  No!  You don’t need to be mad at me. Theres no reason for it.

Lindsy:  Yeah there is!

Tommy:  How? Whats the reason?

Lindsy:  I’m not getting into on the phone, ok!

Tommy:  Go ahead, who cares, fu_k I don’t give a fu_k.

Lindsy:  I do!

Tommy:  All I know is it was a bunch of b/s. They ask me one question about knocking on the door, that’s it.  That’s the only fu_king question they ask me.

Lindsy:  You couldn’t even tell the truth?

Tommy:  I did tell the truth.

Lindsy:  Ok, not by what they said, so. I don’t want to talk about it any more, because I’m not suppose to be talking about it, ok.

Tommy:  Alright, it was all b/s, that’s all I can say to you.

Lindsy:  So, did you get your commissary?

Tommy:  Yeah!

Lindsy:  That’s good. You see how tan I am?

Tommy:  Yeah, you look good! Don’t be getting all mad. Chill out! 

Lindsy:  Yeah, ok!

Tommy:  Theres no reason for it, so.

Lindsy:  Yeah, there is…

Tommy:  Whats the reason?

Lindsy:  Cause that was the backbone Tom. That was what…

Tommy:  No it wasn’t. I was already told that it wasn’t gonna help me any fu_king way. I was already told that. It has nothing to do with my case. So it doesn’t matter.

Lindsy:  Well lets not talk about it cause its gonna make you look stupid – er.

Tommy:  Whatever

Lindsy:  All you fu_cking Croslins are nothing but fu_king liars

Tommy:  Ah that’s why, that’s, ha, ha, you can just stop. Chill you’re a$$ out.

Lindsy:  You want to talk to your daddy? No!

Tommy:  He didn’t go to school today?

Lindsy:  Yeah, I picked him up early.

Tommy:  Yeah!

Lindsy:  Well, I tried to send you, go print  some pictures off, but I’m broke. I have no money.

Tommy:  I know.

Lindsy:  No big deal. Its me that has to worry about it, so.  Oh well!

Tommy:  You just need to chill out babe, everything will be alright.

Lindsy:  K!  I ain’t got much money left on the phone.  So I can’t put any more money on it.  I have to take care of me, so.

Tommy:  So, that’s how its gonna be from now on.

Lindsy:  Austin be careful.

Tommy:  (gruffly)Huh?

Lindsy:  I don’t know Tom. Just, I don’t know what I’m suppose to do now. 

Tommy:  Same thing you were gonna do in the beginning.

Lindsy:  What, make myself look like an idiot?

Tommy:  How are you doing that Lindsy?

Lindsy:  I don’t know what your problem is.  I don’t understand you.

Tommy:  I ain’t gotta problem.

Lindsy:  You just…

Tommy:  I know that fu_king chit was b/s. I ain’t got nothing to do with that. Give 2 fu_king chits about her.

Lindsy:  Well I’m just letting you know right now straighten your chit up and do whats right or you gone get out and you’ll just have your mom, your dad and your sister.

Tommy:  Well ok, well you need to go ahead and tell me what you are going to do now.  So I can go ahead and get this chit done.  So whadda yah gonna do?

Lindsy: (to Austin) Will you please stop cause you hurt my sunburn. Show daddy your tooth.
(to Tommy)  Did you see his tooth?

Tommy:  No,  see it. (laughs) I see it. Yeah Lindsy but that fu_king chit, that test was pointless any fu_cking way.

Lindsy:  Could you not…

Tommy:  You’re the one that wants to talk about it, so lets talk about it.

Lindsy:  No I’m not.  I’ll just hang up and go home.

Tommy:  I don’t know why you’re getting an attitude for.

Lindsy: (a big sigh) Oooh! I had to go spend my last six dollars that I had., cause I came in here with shorts. They were too short, so I had to go to the dollar store and get some

Tommy:  What?

Lindsy:  So now I have

Tommy:  They made you go (giggle)

Lindsy: Yep!  Austin says there is a website you can go on call kool kids math.com 

Tommy:  Yeah! I’m pissed off right now.

Lindsy:  Yeah, me too!

Tommy:  It was a bunch of b/s, is all I can say. I promise you that. You know that chit.

Lindsy:  B/s are not. I mean theres nothing to do with what it was.

Tommy:  I know.

Lindsy:  So  I mean, you either yes or no. How freaking hard is that?  I mean come on, you don’t have to have education for that.

Tommy:  I know, did I ever say I did? No!
My lawyer, I was supposed to call him today.  Does he still want me to call him or what?

Lindsy:  You can call him if you want. But hes not gonna be in the office tomorrow. Hes gonna try to come see yah.

Tommy:  I’m pissed off anyway because this b/s. Altogether it was b/s. They ask me no questions that they should have asked me.

Lindsy:  Can you… Will you stop?

Tommy:  Why?

Lindsy:  Cause, it was up to you to do good. That’s all I have to say. I’m sick of talking about it. I’m not trying to get this out there.  Okay will you just stop cause all its gonna do is make you look stupider? 

Tommy:  Chit what is it gonna help me anyway?

Lindsy:  Tommy, its not gonna fu_king make anything better either. Its gonna make chit way worse. Just shut up. Well whatever!  Its all up to you, your future is up to you, so… 

Tommy:  How’s that Lindsy?  Go ahead tell me, explain it to me. How’s that?

Lindsy:  Whadda yah mean how’s that?

Tommy:  How’s that?

Lindsy:  How’s your future up to you? Because you make your own decisions. You always have. Me picking up the pieces as usual. I’m tired.  I either want a normal life or a real life.

Tommy:  You think I don’t?

Lindsy:  Well you should have thought about that a long time ago. Four months ago almost. You should have thought about that. I’ve been begging for a normal life for two years and still not getting any better, getting worse and lonely.

Tommy:  Well it’ll get better.

Lindsy:  Doesn’t seem like it.  Seems like its getting worse and worse and worse. You get three years, you’ll do two years and 2 months.

Tommy:  Yeah, I know!

Lindsy:  Hope you enjoy missing every single thing and your daughter not knowing you.

Tommy:  She will as long as you bring her to fu_king see me, so.

Lindsy:  She doesn’t know who you are now.

Tommy:  Well, she does.

Lindsy:  She may say daddy, but she does not know who you are.

Tommy:  Raise your head up.  Well she will, so.  I’ll be home again.

Lindsy:  Hopefully!

Tommy:  What do you mean hopefully, I will.  I don’t know what your problem is.

Lindsy:  You don’t know what my, thats, thats…

Tommy:  No I don’t.  There is no reason for you to be acting like this right now.

Lindsy:  I don’t know. I’m done. I’m done acting like this, ok. Lets just talk.

Tommy:  I love yah!

Lindsy:  I love you too.

Tommy:  Raise your head up so I can see yah!

Lindsy:  Its my chair.

Tommy:  You look red.

Lindsy:  I am red. It hurts really bad. I had a blister on the side of my nose right here and it popped.

Tommy:  Yeah!

Lindsy:  It hurts.

Tommy:  I love yah!

Lindsy:  I love you too!  I thought today, today was gonna be a good day.

Tommy:  All that chit ain’t a reason it can’t be. Cause of one question you gone let it be bad?

Lindsy:  Yeah because you know the answer, that’s the thing. Why not just say it. How hard is that?

Tommy:  What do you mean, I know the answer? 

Lindsy:  I, can we not talk about it really?

Tommy:  No, whadda you mean, I know the answer?

Lindsy:  You said all for one question and I said you know the answer.

Tommy:  That don’t make sense.

Lindsy:  You said one question and I said you know the answer. How hard is that to comprehend?

Tommy:  Whatever?

Lindsy:  Yeah, whatever,I know that’s how my life is gonna be, whatever.

Tommy:  No it ain’t

Lindsy:  Ah, I don’t know how much time we have.

Tommy:  I don’t either.  They didn’t let me out at all last night. I didn’t get to come out one time.

Lindsy:  Well, nobody likes you. Everyone is against Tommy.

Tommy:  Oh well.

 Lindsy:  Tommy doesn’t make it any better for him.

Tommy:  You think I haven’t tried? Huh! You think I haven’t tried to?

Lindsy:  No you sure didn’t look like you tried to today.

Tommy:  Okay Lindsy yeah, I shouldn’t even done that stupid chit.

Lindsy:  Yeah, I shouldn’t have stuck behind yah on it either, so

Tommy:  I don’t know why you shouldn’t.

Austin: I want to leave.

Lindsy: You want to leave?  I do too. Its not time yet.

Tommy:  If you want to leave go ahead and do it.

Lindsy:  Austin said hes mad at you.

Tommy:  Tell him don’t need to be mad at me.

Lindsy:  You don’t need to be mad at daddy Austin.

Tommy:  Have you talked to Tim and Chelsea today?

Lindsy:  Oh yeah, I did.

Tommy:  Well, I’ve got to call and talk to them too, cause they’ve got minutes you know.

Lindsy:  Yeah, they’ve have minutes, but don’t call until tonight cause Tims not home.  Til six or something like that.

Tommy:  I know this is a bunch of b/s. They tried me just like to try him, same chit.

Lindsy:  Your future is in your hands, nobody elses.

Tommy:  No it ain’t. Its in God’s hands. I can’t do nothing about it. Nothing I can do about it.

Lindsy: Well!

Tommy:  I ain’t got nothing that I can tell um, so I can’t do chit.  I knew that chit was gonna happen like that anyway.

Lindsy:  Yeah, so does everyone else. Just like Misty, humph.

Tommy:  Ok Lindsy!

Lindsy:  Yall are perfect for each other. (snickers)

Tommy:  Yeah, Uh-huh!

Lindsy:  Yall can be your perfect little incestuous family.

Tommy:  Yeah, ok Lindsy!

Lindsy:  Whatever, I guess I will see you in two years and two months.

Tommy:  That’s how its gonna be?

Lindsy:  Probably!

Tommy:  I’ll see, that probably ain’t gonna happen.

Lindsy:  Well!

Tommy:  You hear me?

Lindsy:  I hear yah!

Tommy:  Before I even did anything, I was told it was not gonna help me anyways, so.

Lindsy:  Whatever I’m just saying what I was told that 3 years is probably what you are going to get. They usually do a minimum mandatory and the prosecutor whatever, the states attorney or whatever it is doesn’t usually budge.

Tommy:  Well, I guess that’s what I get. But I don’t

Lindsy: Nothing to offer but lies.

Tommy:  Yeah, ok . Where you getting your information from?

Lindsy talks to Austin
Lindsy:  Theres some game he played on the computer today and its kinda like grand thief auto. On games slots.   His tooth coming in. You can already see it.

Tommy:  Is it already coming in?

Lindsy:  Yeah, you can see it up in his gum. He got 2 dollars and … That all you got was two dollars is all you got  from the tooth fairy in quarters.

Tommy:  Well you need to make sure you’re at my dad’s house tomorrow, so you can get your money.

Lindsy:  How am I gonna get there?  I only had a little under a half a tank when I drove here, and I got to go all to get my kids. Theres no way. If I don’t get my money, then I’m just gonna call the police and tell them he took my money.  Go to jail.  Go drug test them too go drug test the whole family. 

Tommy:  That will make you look stupid.

Lindsy:  Its not gone make me look stupid. I don’t care. Make me look stupid.  I’ve already made myself look stupid. 

Tommy:  How have you made yourself look stupid, huh?

Lindsy:  Cause I have, ok!

Tommy:  No, you haven’t

Lindsy:  Whatever!

Tommy:  All I know is you need to get out there if you want to get money.

Lindsy:  I’m telling you right now, I’m in a really bad mood right now

Tommy:  I know you are. You shouldn’t have come see me cause you want to be a jerk

Lindsy:  I shouldn’t have come see you, so you want me to just leave?

Tommy:  Nah, I don’t, but you come here with an attitude. I got enough fu_king problems right now. 

Lindsy:  And I don’t, I don’t.  You get to sit in jail and do nothing but fu_king wait for your turn to get out.  I do everything. I have no money, I have zip, not a dollar to my name. Not a dollar.   

Tommy:  Well you had plenty of money.

Lindsy:  I have bills, I have bills Tommy.  Its not like I go out and do anything. I don’t spend money.

Tommy:  Alright Lindsy! I hope they find., I don’t want to argue with yah.

Lindsy:  Have a stupid dog that I have to buy fu_king dog food for. That’s twelve dollars a month, or almost twenty dollars a month. For a stupid dog that I have to take care of , that I hate. He’ll probably be at the humane society by July probably.   

Tommy:  Whys that?

Lindsy:  Cause I can’t stand him. I keep him in his cage all day.  I take him out to pee and I put him back in. I don’t have time to watch a dog, take care of my house, clean my house, do laundry, make sure the kids are clean, make sure the kids are fed.  So you have so much problems in there, don’t yah?

Tommy:  Yeah, I do.

Lindsy:  I see, my phone is gonna be shut off on the twelfth, my water bill is due on the twelfth, insurance is due tomorrow, ah what else, yeah. Then I have to wake up at four thirty every morning, take the kids to Palatka by five in the morning, get the kids there  by  five thirty. Then get myself to work , buy gas.

Tommy:  You ain’t working yet, so.

Lindsy:  Yeah, but I should be working in the next weekend, by next weekend.

Tommy:  Well good, you need to.

Lindsy:  How am I gonna get there?

Tommy:  You’ll be able to get there. Don’t worry about it.   I don’t know why you are putting all that chit to me like this.  You’ll be alright.

Lindsy:  Its your fault that I’m stuck like this. Cause Misty was so important that you wanted to go sell drugs…

Tommy: (Yells) It ain’t got nothing to do with Misty’s fu_king bit_h a$$.

Lindsy:  Yes it does. You’re a married man, you should be home with your wife, not hanging out with your little sister.

Tommy:  I don’t even want to talk about Misty. I could care less about her.

Lindsy:  Yeah every time you talk to me, tell my sister I love her. Tell her…

Tommy:  Every time I talk to you

Lindsy: Not every time, but a lot of times, you’ve said it.

Tommy:  Okay Lindsy, she gave me money one fu_king time since I’ve been in here.

Lindsy:  You better get your chit together, and get it right.

Tommy:  You don’t think I’m trying to?

Lindsy:  Umph uh

Tommy: Oh I’m not trying at all.  Fu_k it!

Lindsy:  No!

Tommy:  Why would you say that?  Huh?

Lindsy:  What?
 
Tommy:  Why would you say that for?

Lindsy:  Cause I don’t think that you are doing everything you can possibly do.

Tommy:  Yeah, I’m doing everything I can possibly do.  Nothing else I can do. Nothing I can do about this fu_king situation.

Lindsy:  All I know it must be nice to not have to do anything or worry about anything

Tommy:  Yeah ok Lindsy. It must be nice huh.

Lindsy:  Free electric, free water, free cable, free food.

Tommy:  Yeah, uh-huh.

Lindsy:  It must be nice.  Poor Lindsy.  I’m a good girl.  I don’t do anything, I still get fu_ked.   I just had enough. I’m so over everything right now. And do not get up and hang this phone up on me, cause I can tell.  You better stop Tommy, I not playing.

a long pause

Tommy:  I love you Lindsy!

Lindsy:  I know you do, but its not enough.

Tommy:  Say that again.

Lindsy:  I said I know you do, but that’s not enough.

Tommy:  Not enough.  Why would you say that?

Lindsy:  Cause I’m so over you being in jail.  I’m so over being lonely. I’m tired. I’m tired of doing everything by myself.

Tommy: So what yah gonna do about it. Go ahead and tell me what you gone do about it?

Lindsy:  I’m not going to do anything right now, but you better get your chit straight.

Tommy:  Ain’t nothing I can do Lindsy.

Lindsy:  Or I’m just gonna go and take me and my kids and go to Massachusetts by myself.

Tommy:  If that’s what you got to do, go ahead and do it. Leave, take you’re a$$ to Massachusetts.  You think that I am not sick of being in here?  Huh?

Lindsy:  Yeah, I know you are. 

Tommy:  Theres nothing I can do to get out of this chit.

Lindsy:  Of course not.  You put yourself there, I mean its all in black and white.

Tommy:  All I know that chit this morning was a bunch of b/s, so.  That’s all I know. Its pointless.

Lindsy:  Yeah, but I don’t want to talk about it.

Tommy:  Well that’s why you’re fu_king mad.

Lindsy:  Hope everything goes good, probably won’t.

Tommy:  I hope it does too.

Lindsy:  But now I’m definitely hoping for the worse.

Tommy: You’re hoping. That don’t make sense

Lindsy: Not hoping, You know what I mean, waiting for the worse.

Tommy:  Well thats what you should have been doing in the beginning.

Lindsy:  No I wasn’t cause I thought you had this, but

Tommy:  Well this doesn’t matter. This ain’t gonna help me anyway Lindsy.  How many times do I have to tell you this. I’ve already been told this

Lindsy: Whatever, but…

Tommy:  She ain’t got nothing to do with my case.

Lindsy:  Whatever, what-ever!  Ready to go to bed.  Its only  2:30 almost

Tommy:  Hope I can see you in the courtroom on the thirteenth.

Lindsy:  Yeah, I hope you can too, but looks like we will. Can’t afford gas for one job, more or less get another one.

Tommy:  What are you doing?

Lindsy:  I was wondering what that lady was doing. Cause Austins sitting in her chair and I thought she needed to come the phone next to us. So what did you get to eat?

Tommy:  Some cold a$$ hot dogs.

Lindsy:  That’s it?

Tommy: Yeah!  So my lawyer is supposed to come see me again tomorrow?

Lindsy:  Not tomorrow, some time this week

Tommy: Yeah!

Lindsy:  Yep!

Tommy:  Did he say he has been talking to the people?

Lindsy:  Ah the lady?

Tommy:  Yeah!

Lindsy:  Not today or anything. I mean he doesn’t know if she is going to budge on the minimum cause she says she usually does the minimum.   

Austin: Mom, somebody needs to bond daddy out.

Tommy:  Tell him not to worry about it, I’ll be home soon.

Lindsy:  We can’t. Daddy does not have a bond.

Lindsy:    What you heard him?

Tommy:  Yeah!

Lindsy:    Its pretty sad that your six year old knows what bonding somebody out means.
We are gonna be so screwed up, we’re gonna be living in a shack and paying for all of them to have to go see psychiatrists.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: novella on May 30, 2010, 03:00:30 AM
Just read through the thread and this is what I digested:

New tattoos + New party pictures + An abused dog + New tapes + New lies = HALEIGH IS STILL MISSING.

I forgot...Hank also wants us to feel sorry for him even though he raised these soulless monsters.

The trash is really stinking now...time to burn the garbage and bring this baby home.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: alagary on May 30, 2010, 08:16:33 AM
This quote from Lindsey says it all ;
Lindsy:  All you fu_cking Croslins are nothing but fu_king liars


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 30, 2010, 10:57:22 AM
krowdkat  posted:

This tape was on April 8th, the day ToC took the LDT. Lyndsy filed for divorce 2 weeks later at the end of April.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5232759&postcount=115


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 30, 2010, 11:21:38 AM
www.artharris.com

www.artharris.com

From Bald Truth Staff, (c) www.artharris.com, all rights reserved

Misty Croslin’s lawyer, Robert Fields, tells journalist Art Harris of The Bald Truth that his client told police everything she knew about what happened to Haleigh Cummings within hours of her drug trafficking bust, but asked her to keep that fact quiet.

Art Harris likes you to read directly from his site, read the rest there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 30, 2010, 11:32:53 AM
krowdkat  posted:

This tape was on April 8th, the day ToC took the LDT. Lyndsy filed for divorce 2 weeks later at the end of April.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5232759&postcount=115
You could see that coming like a freight train.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on May 30, 2010, 11:48:37 AM
Sorry No Rose I should of tagged off your other quote...
::MonkeyCool:: Did everyone catch that comment from Lindsy about incest?  ::MonkeyShocked::


No I missed it where was it at?
Lyndsy says Tommy and Misty can be the perfect incestuous family right around the 18 minute mark.


I heard that...I thought...WTH..  did she find out that Tommy and Misty have been fooling around...now don't throw nanners at me, but I often wondered did these two play doctor when they were growing up...and continued to have check ups when they became adults.

Austin has no business at the jail ::MonkeyMad::
I agree, you know I've been feeling sorry for Lyndsy, and then when I heard her say that about the dog  ::MonkeyShocked:: I thought do any of these people have any brain cells left. If she can't take care of the dog, and she hates the dog, one would think she could find somebody around there that she knows to take it in. And Lyndsy knows darn well what Tommy is all about, my question is, then why have three kids with him, bring one of the kids to the jail, and act all hurt and surprised?

 ::MonkeyMad::

ITA with you NRCG~I guess I take offense to anyone who would treat a defenseless animal so cruely, FTLOG I have been fostering 2 abandoned kitten who must have been preemies because they didn't even wiegh 3 ounces when I weighed them, one died last Tuesday after he was acting lethargic and we rushed him to the ER Vet (don't even want to see that bill as they put an IV in him/her and oxygen and told us it could be as much as $500.00  ::MonkeyShocked:: ), but I'd never give up on the kitty if it had a chance and agreed. Now I have 1 left and have to get up every 2 hours to feed him/her and turn the heating pad back on, I even took him/her to work Friday since nobody would be here and I knew he/she couldn't go 4 hrs without the bottle feeding.

I DO wonder (and hope) that Lindsy isn't really treating the dog this way but in a weird way telling Tommy she is because she is trying to tell him that she hates the dog and is transferring her hatred of Tommy on the dog or telling Tommy that because she knows it will make him mad. Twisted logic I know, but it was the first thing that crossed my mind that is now mush after 16+ months ::piggy::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 30, 2010, 11:59:35 AM
Sorry No Rose I should of tagged off your other quote...
::MonkeyCool:: Did everyone catch that comment from Lindsy about incest?  ::MonkeyShocked::


No I missed it where was it at?
Lyndsy says Tommy and Misty can be the perfect incestuous family right around the 18 minute mark.


I heard that...I thought...WTH..  did she find out that Tommy and Misty have been fooling around...now don't throw nanners at me, but I often wondered did these two play doctor when they were growing up...and continued to have check ups when they became adults.

Austin has no business at the jail ::MonkeyMad::
I agree, you know I've been feeling sorry for Lyndsy, and then when I heard her say that about the dog  ::MonkeyShocked:: I thought do any of these people have any brain cells left. If she can't take care of the dog, and she hates the dog, one would think she could find somebody around there that she knows to take it in. And Lyndsy knows darn well what Tommy is all about, my question is, then why have three kids with him, bring one of the kids to the jail, and act all hurt and surprised?

 ::MonkeyMad::

ITA with you NRCG~I guess I take offense to anyone who would treat a defenseless animal so cruely, FTLOG I have been fostering 2 abandoned kitten who must have been preemies because they didn't even wiegh 3 ounces when I weighed them, one died last Tuesday after he was acting lethargic and we rushed him to the ER Vet (don't even want to see that bill as they put an IV in him/her and oxygen and told us it could be as much as $500.00  ::MonkeyShocked:: ), but I'd never give up on the kitty if it had a chance and agreed. Now I have 1 left and have to get up every 2 hours to feed him/her and turn the heating pad back on, I even took him/her to work Friday since nobody would be here and I knew he/she couldn't go 4 hrs without the bottle feeding.

I DO wonder (and hope) that Lindsy isn't really treating the dog this way but in a weird way telling Tommy she is because she is trying to tell him that she hates the dog and is transferring her hatred of Tommy on the dog or telling Tommy that because she knows it will make him mad. Twisted logic I know, but it was the first thing that crossed my mind that is now mush after 16+ months ::piggy::
::MonkeyAngel:: Sorry about the kitten, the other kitten sounds like he will be fine, lucky kitten. I thought about that also, if she was just saying that to bother Tommy and make him mad. I just wish she wouldn't take Austin there, some of the things he has heard both of them say  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on May 30, 2010, 12:08:37 PM
Sorry No Rose I should of tagged off your other quote...
::MonkeyCool:: Did everyone catch that comment from Lindsy about incest?  ::MonkeyShocked::


No I missed it where was it at?
Lyndsy says Tommy and Misty can be the perfect incestuous family right around the 18 minute mark.


I heard that...I thought...WTH..  did she find out that Tommy and Misty have been fooling around...now don't throw nanners at me, but I often wondered did these two play doctor when they were growing up...and continued to have check ups when they became adults.

Austin has no business at the jail ::MonkeyMad::
I agree, you know I've been feeling sorry for Lyndsy, and then when I heard her say that about the dog  ::MonkeyShocked:: I thought do any of these people have any brain cells left. If she can't take care of the dog, and she hates the dog, one would think she could find somebody around there that she knows to take it in. And Lyndsy knows darn well what Tommy is all about, my question is, then why have three kids with him, bring one of the kids to the jail, and act all hurt and surprised?

 ::MonkeyMad::

ITA with you NRCG~I guess I take offense to anyone who would treat a defenseless animal so cruely, FTLOG I have been fostering 2 abandoned kitten who must have been preemies because they didn't even wiegh 3 ounces when I weighed them, one died last Tuesday after he was acting lethargic and we rushed him to the ER Vet (don't even want to see that bill as they put an IV in him/her and oxygen and told us it could be as much as $500.00  ::MonkeyShocked:: ), but I'd never give up on the kitty if it had a chance and agreed. Now I have 1 left and have to get up every 2 hours to feed him/her and turn the heating pad back on, I even took him/her to work Friday since nobody would be here and I knew he/she couldn't go 4 hrs without the bottle feeding.

I DO wonder (and hope) that Lindsy isn't really treating the dog this way but in a weird way telling Tommy she is because she is trying to tell him that she hates the dog and is transferring her hatred of Tommy on the dog or telling Tommy that because she knows it will make him mad. Twisted logic I know, but it was the first thing that crossed my mind that is now mush after 16+ months ::piggy::
::MonkeyAngel:: Sorry about the kitten, the other kitten sounds like he will be fine, lucky kitten. I thought about that also, if she was just saying that to bother Tommy and make him mad. I just wish she wouldn't take Austin there, some of the things he has heard both of them say  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Agree about that also, no child should be subjected to listening to his parent going at it, nor should be in a jail enviroment.


O/T~baby kitty is now 4 ounces and here is a pic of my lil fighter (he/she was the runt) and the death of the other one broke my heart, I just told A that Eli wanted a pet to play with and he's prolly up there pulling his tail and playing with him/her.............that seemed to help him feel better ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 30, 2010, 12:12:58 PM
What a sweetheart, I hope he feels better after what you told him  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on May 30, 2010, 12:24:20 PM
What a sweetheart, I hope he feels better after what you told him  ::MonkeyAngel::

He does ::MonkeyAngel:: he still misses the kitty but understands that Eli needed him more with him than we did........now he worries non-stop about baby kitty, we even go poke the kitty when it's sleeping to make sure he/she's still alive and it reminds me when my youngest was born and I'd go in an do the same thing ::MonkeyHaHa:: What a ditz I was as you NEVER wake a sleeping baby.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 30, 2010, 01:45:33 PM
Perhaps Lindsy may have been keeping up with BSL http://www.google.com/search?q=bsl+legislation&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a and hoping that a law would be passed banning pit bulls in Florida.

She should see if she can find a loving home for the dog.

Personally I would not want a pit bull around my young children.  And with seeing what Tommy is like, I wonder if Tommy was treating the pit bull the way a pet should be treated.



Dog-lovers hounding lawmakers over pit bull-ban 
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_politics/2010/03/dog-lovers-hounding-lawmakers-over-pit-bull-ban.html

For liability reasons, last month St. Johns County officials decided to ban adoptions of pit bulls from the county's animal shelter. This means that if the animals are not claimed by their owners -- which is often the case, particularly because shelters do not release animals unless they are spayed or neutered -- they are euthanized.

Paul Studivant, the St. Johns County Animal Control manager reports that pit bulls are responsible for 2/3 of bite cases in the county. The dogs are also overbred and dumped, leaving his department to pick up the pieces.

Other counties in Florida have adopted similar policies including Putnam and Polk. Last year, Polk County rescued 139 pit bulls from a property that called itself, "Big Nasty Compound." Photographs of the property depict exactly that.
http://www.dogsbite.org/blog/2008/01/florida-animal-shelter-disallows-pit.html




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 30, 2010, 01:48:02 PM
Looks like Lindsy and Tommy had a child prior to the marriage ....

Hank Jr. & Lindsy Marriage Record.

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/marriage.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 30, 2010, 03:49:01 PM
Looks like Lindsy and Tommy had a child prior to the marriage ....

Hank Jr. & Lindsy Marriage Record.

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/marriage.jpg)

2005 DR 000466 COLLINS, LINDSY K VS. CROSLIN, HANK T JP
File Date   04/06/2005   Case Status    CLOSED (CRIM/CIVIL)   Case Status Date   04/27/2005
        Case Disposition   CLOSED - NON REPORTING   Case Disposition Date   04/27/2005
Party Information
Party Name   Party Alias(es)   Party Type   Attorney(s)   Attorney Phone
COLLINS, LINDSY K    
   PETITIONER    
PRO SE    
CROSLIN, HANK T    
   RESPONDENT    
Case Schedule
Date   Start Time   Event Type   Result
04/12/2005    01:00 PM    HEARING    
Docket Entries
 
Date    Text    
08/11/2005    NOTICE OF DELINQUENCY    
05/03/2005    FILE TO CHILD SUPPORT - RTND 5/9/05    
04/27/2005    ORDER DISSOLVING FJ OF INJ, ETC    
04/22/2005    FILE TO JUDGE-KCH - RTND 4/27/05    
04/19/2005    STIPULATION TO DISSOLVE FJ OF INJ    
04/19/2005    ORDER OF DISMISSAL OF INJUNCTION-PET'S REQUEST    
04/15/2005    FILE TO JUDGE-KCH - RTND 4/19/05    
04/15/2005    MOTION OF PET FOR ORDER DISSOLVING INJ,ETC    
04/15/2005    AFFIDAVIT LINDSY COLLINS    
04/13/2005    FILE TO CHILD SUPPORT - RTND 4/13/05    
04/12/2005    FINAL JUDGMENT OF INJUNCTION-UNTIL 5/1/2006, SUPPORT Pages: 1091-9PGS    
04/12/2005    FILE TO JUDGE-JP/RET'D    
04/07/2005    RET OF SERV-SRVD--4/6/05, HANK THOMAS CROSLIN, JR.    
04/06/2005    TEMP INJ FOR PROT/NOT OF HEARING-APRIL 12, 2005 @ 1PM    
04/06/2005    SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT SHEET    
04/06/2005    NOTICE OF SOC.SEC.#- - LINDSY K. COLLINS    
04/06/2005    FAMILY LAW FINANCIAL AFFIDAVIT- - LINDSY K. COLLINS    
04/06/2005    UCCJA AFFIDAVIT - LINDSY K. COLLINS    
04/06/2005    PETITION FOR INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION

http://www.flaglerclerk.com/pa/?Accept=Accept+Disclaimer+%26+Start+Search


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 30, 2010, 07:31:07 PM
FORUM NEWZ: Yet another shocker as the Haleigh Cummings candle site is desecrated

May 30th, 2010

Shocker should be changed out for the words “low point” … but the beat goes on with the two sides of the Haleigh Cummings case going personal with other posters. We’ve all become used to the posting battles, snarks, out right hostility – even for some – twitter assaults (lol), but when a “case” stirs such emotions as to go on a rampage and desecrate a missing, likely murdered child’s site – WTF is that about? With multiple ways and places to state one’s opinions, likes and dislikes about this case, the forums, the posters – why go to Haleigh Cummings’ candle site where her family reads? If the Haleigh Cummings online community has advanced from an online posting in forums and on twitters group into an online “cult” specializing in raising as much hell as possible – we are in for some rough days as this case drags on without answers. Best get ready for it if your stomach and heart can take it!!!

http://radionewz.net/?p=29378


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: BooMonkey on May 30, 2010, 07:47:27 PM
Good Lord, I really hope that someone takes that dog from them and finds it a decent home!! Poor dog!   ::dogwag::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 30, 2010, 10:21:23 PM
FORUM NEWZ: Yet another shocker as the Haleigh Cummings candle site is desecrated

May 30th, 2010

Shocker should be changed out for the words “low point” … but the beat goes on with the two sides of the Haleigh Cummings case going personal with other posters. We’ve all become used to the posting battles, snarks, out right hostility – even for some – twitter assaults (lol), but when a “case” stirs such emotions as to go on a rampage and desecrate a missing, likely murdered child’s site – WTF is that about? With multiple ways and places to state one’s opinions, likes and dislikes about this case, the forums, the posters – why go to Haleigh Cummings’ candle site where her family reads? If the Haleigh Cummings online community has advanced from an online posting in forums and on twitters group into an online “cult” specializing in raising as much hell as possible – we are in for some rough days as this case drags on without answers. Best get ready for it if your stomach and heart can take it!!!

http://radionewz.net/?p=29378

(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/Bearlyhere/Monkey%20Emoticons/angel2-crying.gif)  (http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/Bearlyhere/Monkey%20Emoticons/angel2-crying.gif)  (http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/Bearlyhere/Monkey%20Emoticons/angel2-crying.gif)   




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2010, 10:23:23 PM
FORUM NEWZ: Yet another shocker as the Haleigh Cummings candle site is desecrated

May 30th, 2010

Shocker should be changed out for the words “low point” … but the beat goes on with the two sides of the Haleigh Cummings case going personal with other posters. We’ve all become used to the posting battles, snarks, out right hostility – even for some – twitter assaults (lol), but when a “case” stirs such emotions as to go on a rampage and desecrate a missing, likely murdered child’s site – WTF is that about? With multiple ways and places to state one’s opinions, likes and dislikes about this case, the forums, the posters – why go to Haleigh Cummings’ candle site where her family reads? If the Haleigh Cummings online community has advanced from an online posting in forums and on twitters group into an online “cult” specializing in raising as much hell as possible – we are in for some rough days as this case drags on without answers. Best get ready for it if your stomach and heart can take it!!!

http://radionewz.net/?p=29378

Which one is the candle site?  Is it shut down now?  Unfortunately, these types of online battles are nothing new.  Do you have a link to the candle site?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 30, 2010, 11:49:23 PM
radionewz did not give a link to the site.

I assumed she meant this one: http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?l=eng

But looks like Haleigh's candles are fine to me.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC

So I am in the dark, so to speak.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on May 30, 2010, 11:56:12 PM
radionewz did not give a link to the site.

I assumed she meant this one: http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?l=eng

But looks like Haleigh's candles are fine to me.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC

So I am in the dark, so to speak.



I just found one in the Haleigh's Gratefulness Candles and stopped.  It's just sick imo.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/message.cfm?l=eng&cid=10909367 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on May 30, 2010, 11:59:11 PM
radionewz did not give a link to the site.

I assumed she meant this one: http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?l=eng

But looks like Haleigh's candles are fine to me.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC

So I am in the dark, so to speak.



I just found one in the Haleigh's Gratefulness Candles and stopped.  It's just sick imo.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/message.cfm?l=eng&cid=10909367 

Here's another http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/message.cfm?l=eng&cid=10909372  but I think we should stop here and not soil Haleigh's thread any further.  I think the sick person doing this sort of thing is  looking for attention and the more we respond, the more they enjoy it.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  JMHO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on May 31, 2010, 12:00:22 AM
radionewz did not give a link to the site.

I assumed she meant this one: http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?l=eng

But looks like Haleigh's candles are fine to me.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC

So I am in the dark, so to speak.



You didn't get to page 3.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  What a sorry thing for a person to do.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 31, 2010, 12:07:19 AM
radionewz did not give a link to the site.

I assumed she meant this one: http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?l=eng

But looks like Haleigh's candles are fine to me.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC

So I am in the dark, so to speak.



You didn't get to page 3.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  What a sorry thing for a person to do.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Well, I think her main candle site is http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC
and it is working fine.

It is unbelievable to me how some people who claim to care about the missing can treat others.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on May 31, 2010, 12:14:14 AM
radionewz did not give a link to the site.

I assumed she meant this one: http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?l=eng

But looks like Haleigh's candles are fine to me.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC

So I am in the dark, so to speak.



You didn't get to page 3.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  What a sorry thing for a person to do.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Well, I think her main candle site is http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC
and it is working fine.

It is unbelievable to me how some people who claim to care about the missing can treat others.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Brandi- Yes, that is the main candle site, and it's the one on Haleigh's Gratefulness Candle thread here at Scared Monkeys:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5688.msg877713#msg877713  The candle site you are referring to is in that thread.  However, there are three (3) pages of candles there, and the offending candle messages are on page 3.  There are at least 2 candles that are offensive, labeled SUX and SUX2, and both are under the same site you are citing, just two pages over.  Go to the main site you are citing, then go to the bottom right of the page, and click "next".  That's page 2.  Click "next" again, and you get page 3, and that's where the candles that are being discussed are.  I hope it stops though. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 31, 2010, 01:02:51 AM
radionewz did not give a link to the site.

I assumed she meant this one: http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?l=eng

But looks like Haleigh's candles are fine to me.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC

So I am in the dark, so to speak.



You didn't get to page 3.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  What a sorry thing for a person to do.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Well, I think her main candle site is http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC
and it is working fine.

It is unbelievable to me how some people who claim to care about the missing can treat others.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Brandi- Yes, that is the main candle site, and it's the one on Haleigh's Gratefulness Candle thread here at Scared Monkeys:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5688.msg877713#msg877713  The candle site you are referring to is in that thread.  However, there are three (3) pages of candles there, and the offending candle messages are on page 3.  There are at least 2 candles that are offensive, labeled SUX and SUX2, and both are under the same site you are citing, just two pages over.  Go to the main site you are citing, then go to the bottom right of the page, and click "next".  That's page 2.  Click "next" again, and you get page 3, and that's where the candles that are being discussed are.  I hope it stops though. 

Thanks, Muffy. I see they are in the messages when one clicks on a candle.

I agree, it's probably best to just ignore the trolls.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 31, 2010, 10:17:17 AM
FORUM NEWZ: Yet another shocker as the Haleigh Cummings candle site is desecrated

May 30th, 2010

Shocker should be changed out for the words “low point” … but the beat goes on with the two sides of the Haleigh Cummings case going personal with other posters. We’ve all become used to the posting battles, snarks, out right hostility – even for some – twitter assaults (lol), but when a “case” stirs such emotions as to go on a rampage and desecrate a missing, likely murdered child’s site – WTF is that about? With multiple ways and places to state one’s opinions, likes and dislikes about this case, the forums, the posters – why go to Haleigh Cummings’ candle site where her family reads? If the Haleigh Cummings online community has advanced from an online posting in forums and on twitters group into an online “cult” specializing in raising as much hell as possible – we are in for some rough days as this case drags on without answers. Best get ready for it if your stomach and heart can take it!!!

http://radionewz.net/?p=29378

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This has now taken on the lowest level possible, never seen something like that happen. What a bunch of disgusting characters, just as disgusting as the players in this case.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 31, 2010, 10:18:25 AM
radionewz did not give a link to the site.

I assumed she meant this one: http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?l=eng

But looks like Haleigh's candles are fine to me.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC

So I am in the dark, so to speak.



I just found one in the Haleigh's Gratefulness Candles and stopped.  It's just sick imo.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/message.cfm?l=eng&cid=10909367 
Nothing but a bunch of losers, that take pleasure in others misery.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on May 31, 2010, 10:55:11 AM

Donna Brock tape:

http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/29736087/donna-brock-jail-call-2-2-9-10.htm?pageid=28469 (http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/29736087/donna-brock-jail-call-2-2-9-10.htm?pageid=28469)

 ::MonkeyDance::




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: flamom on May 31, 2010, 10:55:54 AM
Hiya Monkey friends!!
I wish I knew when I selected my SN several yrs ago that perhaps I should choose another. It certainly isnt me they are referring to. I believe it is someone from Murts old site and from BH..
God Bless Our Soldiers and their familes for all of their sacrifices!!
Have a safe and Happy holiday to all of you!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 31, 2010, 11:01:14 AM
Hiya Monkey friends!!
I wish I knew when I selected my SN several yrs ago that perhaps I should choose another. It certainly isnt me they are referring to. I believe it is someone from Murts old site and from BH..
God Bless Our Soldiers and their familes for all of their sacrifices!!
Have a safe and Happy holiday to all of you!!
::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 31, 2010, 11:01:38 AM

Donna Brock tape:

http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/29736087/donna-brock-jail-call-2-2-9-10.htm?pageid=28469 (http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/29736087/donna-brock-jail-call-2-2-9-10.htm?pageid=28469)

 ::MonkeyDance::



Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 31, 2010, 01:03:47 PM
Thanks Wyks.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Magnolia on May 31, 2010, 01:10:13 PM

Donna Brock tape:

http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/29736087/donna-brock-jail-call-2-2-9-10.htm?pageid=28469 (http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/29736087/donna-brock-jail-call-2-2-9-10.htm?pageid=28469)

 ::MonkeyDance::





Donna's voice is much more refined than her look.

It was nice to hear a tape without all of the F-bombs.

Who is the guy she is talking with?  He sounds sensible.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: cw618 on May 31, 2010, 02:01:56 PM
not sure if this is a repeat of a video
New Tommy Croslin Jail Video Emerges
Video|Mon, 31 May 2010


http://audio.thesky973.com/m/video/31430019/new-tommy-croslin-jail-video-emerges.htm?pageid=28469

 donna says minimum mandatory, is 25yrs, and she will be 70, when released
i still wonder what her intentions were, id like to think it was to find info on Haleigh.
but you would think, out drug dealing isnt going to find Haleigh, guess she wasnt
thinking


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 31, 2010, 05:50:09 PM

Donna Brock tape:

http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/29736087/donna-brock-jail-call-2-2-9-10.htm?pageid=28469 (http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/29736087/donna-brock-jail-call-2-2-9-10.htm?pageid=28469)

 ::MonkeyDance::



Donna's voice is much more refined than her look.

It was nice to hear a tape without all of the F-bombs.

Who is the guy she is talking with?  He sounds sensible.

Agreed on the F-bombs.

She is apparently talking to a guy named Ben. No idea of their relationship. He did say that Levi Page called him. And she said she does not even know him, among other "bloggers." Nor does she trust them.

Ben sure did give her calm, sensible advice though. He sounds like a good friend.

Sounds like it was recorded back in March.

She says if she gets the mandatory minimum, she will be 70 years old when she gets out.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: NCSunny on May 31, 2010, 06:50:03 PM
Hi Monkeys and all guests,

First Bless out Veterans and soldiers, and hope everyone is having a safe and nice holiday.

The 'Lost' 5 Tommy tapes. Reactions to Hope's sentence. Thought they were interesting, a lot of 'bad language' as is the norm.  ::MonkeyEek::

 http://www.bloggernews.net/124640  (http://www.bloggernews.net/124640)



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on May 31, 2010, 06:57:06 PM
Hi Monkeys and all guests,

First Bless out Veterans and soldiers, and hope everyone is having a safe and nice holiday.

The 'Lost' 5 Tommy tapes. Reactions to Hope's sentence. Thought they were interesting, a lot of 'bad language' as is the norm.  ::MonkeyEek::

 http://www.bloggernews.net/124640  (http://www.bloggernews.net/124640)



Thanks for the link, NCSunny!

O/T: I left you a post at http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg1141342#msg1141342


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: NCSunny on May 31, 2010, 07:47:04 PM
Hi Monkeys and all guests,

First Bless out Veterans and soldiers, and hope everyone is having a safe and nice holiday.

The 'Lost' 5 Tommy tapes. Reactions to Hope's sentence. Thought they were interesting, a lot of 'bad language' as is the norm.  ::MonkeyEek::

 http://www.bloggernews.net/124640  (http://www.bloggernews.net/124640)



Thanks for the link, NCSunny!

O/T: I left you a post at http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg1141342#msg1141342

YW, I am glad to contribute something.  I get so much from SM and hardly ever post or contribute.

Its raining 'cats and dogs' here, no worries, I love the rain...it is so refreshing to the plants and wild critters and has really cooled it down here.

TY Brandi for the av of Sunny. It reminds me so much of him and how much I miss him. He always sat on my lap during dinner. Again.......TY!





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 31, 2010, 08:26:48 PM
Hi Monkeys and all guests,

First Bless out Veterans and soldiers, and hope everyone is having a safe and nice holiday.

The 'Lost' 5 Tommy tapes. Reactions to Hope's sentence. Thought they were interesting, a lot of 'bad language' as is the norm.  ::MonkeyEek::

 http://www.bloggernews.net/124640  (http://www.bloggernews.net/124640)



Thanks for the link, NCSunny!

O/T: I left you a post at http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg1141342#msg1141342

YW, I am glad to contribute something.  I get so much from SM and hardly ever post or contribute.

Its raining 'cats and dogs' here, no worries, I love the rain...it is so refreshing to the plants and wild critters and has really cooled it down here.

TY Brandi for the av of Sunny. It reminds me so much of him and how much I miss him. He always sat on my lap during dinner. Again.......TY!




Thank-you for the lost Tommy tapes  ::MonkeyCool:: Sunny looks beautiful  ::MonkeyAngel:: Brandi did a wonderful job on Sunny and Zoe, and I miss Zoe very much also. Love the rain also.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 31, 2010, 08:34:37 PM
Donna Brock and Ben jail house phone conversation tape
http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/29736087/donna-brock-jail-call-2-2-9-10.htm?pageid=28469


Ben: Hey you!

Donna Brock:  um, um, don’t have good news.

Ben:  Whats up?

Donna Brock: Well I ah, well they couldn’t do nothing at my bond hearing today, because they had to do a nebbia hearing at the same time, so.

Ben: Had to do what hearing at the same time?

Donna Brock:  A nebbia, a nebbia to find out where, if I was to bond out, to find out where the moneys coming from.

Ben: Yeah!

Donna Brock:  And so they rescheduled it for my criminal bond hearing on the seventeenth which is my one week from today at 1:30 and so we went ahead and did my first appearance and plead not guilty, and my pre-trial is on April the sixth.

Ben: Well!

Donna Brock: Yeah, ah I can’t really talk on the phone but God I wish I could because I really need to talk and things are not good. I found out today that my mandatory minimum, my mandatory minimum is twenty five years, not 5.   

Ben: Um!

Donna Brock:  I’m sick! I wish I could talk to you.. I don’t know about this attorney. I don’t know nothing.

Ben: I don’t know either.

Donna Brock:  Baby, they…

Ben: You getting access to your own money?

Donna Brock:  What?

Brad Brock: You getting access to your own money?

Donna Brock:  Nope. Brad has cut off the attorney.  He doesn’t want nothing,  to talk to my attorney. He doesn’t, hes not returning his call. Hes not returning the e-mails.

Ben: Well your attorney needs to requisition your card numbers from the bank then. He just needs to bring you a slip of paper to sign.

Donna Brock:  I need to tell you that that’s not very good either.  I just don’t want to talk cause tape and he told me not to say nothing. I can’t talk to you. (crying)

Ben: I know sweetie. Don’t say nothing.

Donna Brock:  I get twenty five years with no gain time. Straight up twenty five. No gain time. That’s means I’ll be seventy years old.

Ben: I know.

Donna Brock:  I can’t even tell you whats going on.

Ben: You know things aren’t good out here either. But somehow, everybody’s gonna get tried.

Donna Brock:  I don’t know what to do.

Ben: It’s a tough spot Donna.  I talked to some of my  attorney friends, St. Johns County doesn’t  have the, the best reputation for fairness and justice . They just don’t. You better hope for the national spotlight will kinda keep them on the straight and narrow. Everybody from Nancy Grace to every bush league reporter whatever, Nancy Grace wannabe, you know is all over this stuff man. 

Donna Brock:  I need another attorney. I need a pro bono attorney. I need somebody  thats gonna help me then. This guys not gonna do it.

Ben: You know, you are in a tough spot baby. I don’t know of any attorney that could, could help yah. For this kind of help you need to get a prosecutor or something that isn’t  gonna shred you, you know.

Donna Brock:  I can’t even tell yah whats going on. It’s the craziest thing.

Ben: I know!

Donna Brock:  I can’t even fight for myself. It’s crazy!

Ben: Its crazy!

Donna Brock:  Anyway we plead not guilty today.

Ben:  Oh you saw your attorney today?

Donna Brock:  What?  I saw him, but hes ?? man!  You know what? I’m gonna tell you its about the money to him. Its not about my life. Its not about fighting for me. 

Ben: Its not. Its about the money with all of them Donna. You know that. 

Donna Brock:  No, I don’t know that, cause I’ve never been in this situation before.

Ben: You know how the world works Donna. I’ve written a couple of letters to some big name attorneys, but I’ve not heard back.   

Donna Brock:  k, well that’s good  because I need somebody to help me that’s gonna help me.  I mean not somebody  that’s

Ben: Do you trust those guys that use to do those blogs. You remember when you were talking about those interviews and stuff.    You trust that guy. Do you want me to call him.

Donna Brock:  No, no hes contacted my lawyer.

Ben: Hes contacted me too!

Donna Brock:  Levi Page?  Who contacted you?

Ben: Do you trust any of those guys to help you?

Donna Brock:  No! I don’t know um. Who contacted you?

Brad Brock: Levi!

Donna Brock:  How did he know about you?

Brad Brock: He doesn’t!   Well he does.  I don’t even want to get into it, right!   It sucks for me right now. Ok, there putting a lot of chit out on the news ok,

Donna Brock:  What?

Ben: Its not good for me.  My friends are coming to me, hey we heard you on the fing news. It sucks ok.  I hate you for this, but whatever, we’re gonna get through it.  This sucks. Now I’m gonna tell you the same thing I’ve always tell you. Put the crystal ball away.  Stop dwelling on the worse possible case scenario and I’m not telling you that you shouldn’t may prepare yourself for that in a small way.  But don’t dwell on it. You don’t know what the future holds.  Don’t get that crystal ball out and sit there and destroy yourself over it.  Alright, think about what you are going to do for a job when you get out. Think about how you’re gonna get ?? back on. Think about that good stuff, you know. Alright, think about what you are gonna do to put your life back together and what you’re gonna need and how you’re gonna do that. And visualize some of the positive things that you can do for yourself in the future. Cause man, its, its crazy, I don’t know what to tell yah!

Donna Brock:  I am so upset.

Ben: Its gonna be ok Donna. I don’t know how but (inaudible)

Donna Brock:  ??? can I please try to call you back.

Ben: Nah man!

Donna Brock:  Is Hollie?? there?

Ben: Shes at work right now

Donna Brock:   I just need to talk for a little longer. What?

Ben:  I know! Well keep talking now, we still have some minutes.

Donna Brock:  I’m sorry!

Ben: I  can’t find out what the balance is on that phone line.

Donna Brock:  Ben I’m sorry

Ben: how much time you have left or how much money you have left on there.

Donna Brock:  No it doesn’t tell me knowing. Nobody tells me nothing, not even my attorney tells me anything.

Ben: Well, I’ll call him and try to find out, you know, whats going on. But heres the deal, the next time you see him you need to requisition your information. You give him your name and your social security number. And he sends a form to the bank with your signature requisitioning your stuff and whatever, I don’t know how much money you  have access to. But you don’t need Brad to access your money, ok. You can access it through your lawyer. I’ve talked to my lawyer today.

Donna Brock: Right!

Ben:  Requisition it from the bank, right.  Theres certain situations and theres legal ways to do that. You don’t have to do without access to your own funds. You just have to go through the procedures   

Donna Brock:  Right! I think Brad used all the money that I had in my checking account. For that apartment and he paid my bills and everything.  So he has wrote checks on my account. So I don’t know how much money I have there.  All I have is credit cards and that’s it. And if the minimum balance is not paid, they are gonna just stop um, put a hold on it, you know, so I’m gonna be screwed. I don’t know what to say. I’m sorry! 

Ben: Looks like they’re gonna be playing the waiting game for awhile. You’ve gotta bond reduction hearing you say, next Thusday?

Donna Brock:  Next Wednesday.

Ben:  Next Wednesday. Then you should know more then.  Don’t blow on the worse case scenario until it happens, right.

Donna Brock:  Right!

 Ben:  So you should know something like that. But Donna, you know  I’m, we’re, a year and a half ago I could have come up with forty thousand dollars. Its all in the house. Four of our cards are maxed out. The two tvs we usually (inaudible), we cashed those in too.

Donna Brock: Right!

 Ben:  I don’t have that hundreds of dollars to put on the phone and the commissary. I don’t have thousands of dollars in any form. (inaudible)

Donna Brock:  Well, you know I love you so much for sticking by me right now. Ben, you’re all I have. I haven’t received no letters. Brad is mad as hell. So I mean if theres no, huh…

Ben: I talked to Joan??, they actually sent you some letters,  but they kind of took a wrong zip code. I spoke with her yesterday. Her and Nichole, they both tried to mail you something, but it went to the wrong zip.  So I gave um. They had the right address but the wrong zip.  So they’re mailing that stuff back out. I was hoping good news today. I didn’t put those pictures in the mail for you yet, but I will.

Donna Brock:  Please do! I’m gonna be, I don’t foresee them lowering my bond. I’m gonna be here until my pre- trial, and that’s in April, April sixth. So I know, you know they are not understanding nothing, but I’m not able to speak. But I, I hate to say it, but I don’t feel like hes fighting for me.

Ben: You know um,  it’s a tough spot to fight from Donna.  Theres a lot of people spending a lot of time on this You really put yourself in a terrible spot man.

Donna Brock:  I did, I mean I did.

Ben: You’ve got to trust that these people are doing what they are supposed to do.  But man, I don’t know whose got, besides some big name attorney that’s willing to help. I don’t know what to do except go with this guy.  The first thing you need to do, this guys got like some money to start with.   

Donna Brock:  Right!

Ben: As this stuff goes down the road, you’re gonna need more. Whatever you’ve got left…

Donna Brock:  Well like I told him, I have no money to go to trial Ben. What you’ve given him and what Brad’s given him is all hes gonna be able to get out of me.

Ben: What about your credit cards? Probably not. Its in Brad’s name or something.

Donna Brock:  Yeah, Like I said I don’t even think hes going to make the minimum payments. I don’t know hes contacted him or said anything to him, you know what I’m saying.  You’re telling me that people have contacted you.

Ben: Well as far as I understand your lawyer has contacted that and requested your cell phone and your credit card.

Donna Brock:  Yes, and Brad’s not touching it. I can’t tell you whats going on but I want to tell you so bad. But look…

Ben: Don’t say anything.

Donna Brock:  I know, and I want to so bad.   And its about Brad. Its pertaining to Brad. Call my lawyer and ask him.  Because I signed for him to release information to you.   When we hang up you call him over at his office and find out. Say she couldn’t talk to me so you tell me whats going on. And you are gonna be shocked.  Absolutely shocked!

Ben: You know I don’t think I’m gonna be shocked anymore Donna, seriously.  I spent my whole life living in self mode. Try’na stay under my rock. You know I don’t like,  you know,  I heard my voice on the news and stuff. I just can’t tell yah I’m really beside myself out here.

Donna Brock:  What,  what?  But see, I don’t have nothing to do with nothing. Why are they doing this to me?  I don’t have nothing to do with that stuff.

Ben:  Maybe its not about you and that’s why we don’t have any control. Its about other people’s egos and stature, and its about poor little HaLeigh, its about, you know, its not about us, which is… 

Donna Brock:  Will you just make me a promise no matter what we. Will you please never turn your back on me.

Ben:  I won’t

Donna Brock:  No matter what Ben. Cause I swear, I have no one but you. That is the God’s honest truth.

Ben: I hear yah! Well tomorrow is another day and pray to God that that changes a day. You pray to God that that changes cause you ain’t gonna get through this with me.  I don’t have, I have a couple of hundred, I can keep money on the phone, but that’s it,  Donna, that’s all.  You know we just spent forty thousand dollars on the house.  I not gonna cash in Katy’s college fund 

Donna Brock:  Ben I’m not asking you to do that. Letters, you know, we will do what we have to do, but I can’t not have no one.

Ben:  Don’t worry and I…

Donna Brock:  I’m sorry this has happened to you.

Ben: Yeah, its tough. You know,  I can really ah, well, lets not worry  talk about that. But its crazy Donna, I’m in trouble, theres trouble everywhere, you know I just, nothing that I can’t manage, but do something.

Donna Brock:  I’m so sorry! I don’t know what to do. I can’t even help. I can’t do nothing, but out of control.

Ben:  Still have money in your ah…

Donna Brock:  Yeah, I’m good! I’m good on that.  I didn’t spend it all of course.

Ben:  When they reduce your bond you probably not going to make that either.

Donna Brock:  I’m calling Dr. Bob.

Ben:  Okay!

Donna Brock:  I’m gonna call Dr. Bob, hes the only one, well actually I am going to get you to call Dr. Bob and have him to get minutes. Tell him how to do it and then I’ll call him and speak to him about that.

Ben: And you are not interested in speaking with none of those clowns with the blogs

Donna Brock:  No! How are they going to help me Ben?

Ben: You know they can put the word out Donna about injustice and unfairness. You know Donna they take all the cases that have your charge. You’re the only one that got two hundred and fifty thousand dollar bond. That’s like hundreds of thousands of dollars above what they give to everybody else and they’re already pushing for…   

Donna Brock:  They are, they are, they’re singleing me out . It is an injustice

Ben: They’re not singleing you out. Its not about you now. You’ve got to get over that. You are in the middle of chit. It ain’t about you.  But you just need to hope that the national…

Donna Brock:  You know, why can’t they treat me like a normal person though. I mean with this charge.

Ben: You tell me, you know, why do you think maybe because its been splash all over the Nancy Grace for the past year, you think,  maybe. 

Donna Brock:  I know!

Ben:   Most people out there trying to make names for themselves you know.  And it really is. Course everybody keeps forgetting its all about HaLeigh, it ain’t about nothing else.   

Donna Brock:  Right!

Ben:  Those guys I’m telling you  Donna

Donna Brock:  Ben!

Ben:  Those guys can break their own rules to get what they want.

Donna Brock:  You be the judge of that because your allowed to talk anybody that you want to. You know I can’t speak with nobody but if you are more than welcome to go on there and take up for me  and let them know …

Ben: Well Donna that’s hard for me to do, cause you have not told me the truth either sweetie. You lied to me about a bunch of stuff.  And its hard for me to go in there and stick up. I am putting my daughters futures in jeopardy by, you know how much this could cost me.

one minute left for this call

Ben: Anyway, why don’t yah, I tell you what why don’t you give me a call this Saturday.

Donna Brock:  Okay!

Ben:   And then next Wednesday also.

Donna Brock:  Okay!

 Ben: And if you can somehow  make bond, I know Joanie will try to help too and even  if it takes a little while or something I mean…   

Donna Brock:  I love you, I love you so much I can’t even tell yah!  And I’m so sorry.

Ben:  Me too. You need to, you need to access whatever money you’ve got left. I will call your lawyer and ask him about the legalities of Brad holding onto stuff that is in your name only.

Donna Brock:  Yeah go ahead and call him and see what you can do.  Because like I said I wasn’t even able to talk with him in court . I don’t know what that’s all about  I don’t feel comfortable butI love call you and I guess I’ll call  you Saturday bout one o’clock

Ben: And I’ve heard good things about your attorney, okay.

Donna Brock:  Okay, I have to have faith. I believe in you.

Ben:   A lot of people told me that hes a man, that he is a really good guy, now whatever, you know theres just more than one way to do things right Donna…

No time remaining for this phone call


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Post by: Heart on May 31, 2010, 09:01:14 PM
Levi_Page tweeted:

Whoever that dude Donna Brock is talking with is a liar. I don't know him & can't contact someone, I don't know.     about 7 hours ago  via web

http://twitter.com/Levi_Page/status/15122008689
   


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Post by: Heart on May 31, 2010, 09:08:19 PM
Haleigh Cummings – Even More From The Dreaded Data Dump Of May 21

Posted on May 31st, 2010
by Simon Barrett in Society and Culture, crime


I have to admit that these discs have been a challenge. There were some missing files from our original release, three of us have spent the day trying to locate them. I am pleased to say that I do believe we have found the five missing audio files.

The recordings are phone calls made by Tommy Croslin.

Tape one  - Tommy Croslin and Hank Croslin – Lindsay is angry with Tommy. Once again the conversation is about money. This tape was made a few days before the divorce papers were filed. Clearly Tommy is waiting for the event to happen  (04/17)

Tape two -  Tommy Croslin and Lisa Croslin – Lisa has good news, she only got another 12 months of probation. But she can’t come visit Tommy until she has paid her $1088 fine!  Hope Sykes getting 15 years is discussed. “That’s Bullshit” says Tommy (04/27)

Tape three – Tommy Croslin and Hank Croslin – Yet more discussion about Hope Sykes and her scoring 15 years. Tommy is still claiming that 3 years is all he faces. Hank Croslin talking about Misty Croslin’s reaction to the Hope Sykes news “She is as scared as SH!T”. (04/28)

Tape four -  Tommy Croslin and Timmy Croslin – More discussion about Lindsay and the divorce. Apparently Lindsay is not replying to his letters. Did I hear Timmy say that he was going to write but he was ‘half buzzed up’? (04/29)

Tape five – Tommy Croslin and Timmy Croslin – Yet more Lindsay stuff. Tommy had asked Timmy to call, and it was not a happy call. Timmy instigates a three way call. Lindsay comes on the line. Tommy asks her “Why are you doing this sh!t?”.

We have not had a chance to analyze these tapes, they are what they are! If you have an aversion to strong language I would suggest that you avoid listening to these tapes.

Tape One:  http://www.bloggernews.net/indepth/Haleigh/may21/cd1/missing/STJ02-34-20100417185056.wav 

Tape Two:  http://www.bloggernews.net/indepth/Haleigh/may21/cd1/missing/STJ02-34-20100427162118.wav

Tape Three:  http://www.bloggernews.net/indepth/Haleigh/may21/cd1/missing/STJ02-34-20100428123502.wav

Tape Four:  http://www.bloggernews.net/indepth/Haleigh/may21/cd1/missing/STJ02-34-20100429135058.wav

Tape Five: http://www.bloggernews.net/indepth/Haleigh/may21/cd1/missing/STJ02-34-20100429204834.wav

Do they bring any light on what happened to Haleigh Cummings, probably not. They do however offer some interesting background to this completely dysfunctional family.

Simon and Jan Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/124640


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 31, 2010, 09:33:32 PM
Thanks Heart  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 31, 2010, 09:47:43 PM
Thanks Heart  ::MonkeyCool::

Sure nrcg!

Tommy is boo-wooing one minute and saying what Lindsy better not do in the next in Tape #1.


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Post by: Heart on May 31, 2010, 09:51:43 PM
Tommy wanted Hank to have Austin standing out in the hallway so that he can see him on Tommy's court date.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Post by: Kat_Gram on May 31, 2010, 10:07:29 PM
I hope that Donna doesn't get 25 years.
How the heck did she ever get involved in this ? She didn't know Misty or Ron or any of them from a hole in the ground before this. She needs a lawyer who would like some face time on NG to do a pro bono. I am anti drug btw, but there is something wrong with this picture. I just don't see her as someone who set out to sell drugs with the Croslins or Ron. Or obtain or transport or anything. And, SHE didn't kill anyone. I live in Canada and the Hells kill each other or their enemies and they never do this kind of time.
..
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 31, 2010, 10:11:33 PM
I hope that Donna doesn't get 25 years.
How the heck did she ever get involved in this ? She didn't know Misty or Ron or any of them from a hole in the ground before this. She needs a lawyer who would like some face time on NG to do a pro bono. I am anti drug btw, but there is something wrong with this picture. I just don't see her as someone who set out to sell drugs with the Croslins or Ron. Or obtain or transport or anything. And, SHE didn't kill anyone. I live in Canada and the Hells kill each other or their enemies and they never do this kind of time.
..
I thought that Donna was responsible for obtaining some pills from a dentist or doctor out of Virginia?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Magnolia on May 31, 2010, 10:26:22 PM
It seemed to me that in this last batch of recordings that Lindsy is mad because the
lie detector test showed that Tommy is covering up something to do with Haleigh.
She was OK about the drug charge, but not if he had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearence. MOO.

Even on the 3-way that Timmy arranged, Tommy was reminding her that she knew where he was that
night.

I think that Tommy and Misty have decided that if neither of them talks, nothing can be proven.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 31, 2010, 10:27:42 PM
I hope that Donna doesn't get 25 years.
How the heck did she ever get involved in this ? She didn't know Misty or Ron or any of them from a hole in the ground before this. She needs a lawyer who would like some face time on NG to do a pro bono. I am anti drug btw, but there is something wrong with this picture. I just don't see her as someone who set out to sell drugs with the Croslins or Ron. Or obtain or transport or anything. And, SHE didn't kill anyone. I live in Canada and the Hells kill each other or their enemies and they never do this kind of time.
..
I thought that Donna was responsible for obtaining some pills from a dentist or doctor out of Virginia?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Misty pleaded not guilty to eight counts of drug trafficking. She`s being held on $1.3 million bail. Police say this hidden camera footage you`re about to see shows an undercover officer driving Misty and Ron to a drug deal back in January. Police say they repeatedly sold prescription pain killers to the officer. The deals allegedly involved more than 300 pills of Oxycontin and Hydrocodone.

She could face and Ron could face 25 years in prison if convicted. That means Misty would be at least 43-years-old when she got out. Tim Miller, you have been involved in this case. You actually worked with one of the co-defendants here, Donna Brock, who originally started out as a Texas Equusearch volunteer. And she was, as I understand it, her job was to get close to Misty and get information about Misty about what happened to Haleigh, now Donna has ended up, sort of swept up in this alleged drug ring.

TIM MILLER, DIRECTOR, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: Well, I think Donna did a good job at what she did, if you want to know the truth. She did, I believe, exactly what needed to happen. We sent Donna a certified letter October 31st and revoked her membership because we got information that she was doing drugs. She actually took drugs to New York on an airplane with Misty. And --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Alleged, alleged.

MILLER: We have a witness up there that actually seen it. So I`m going to say it was more than alleged. But anyhow, you know, that`s when I washed my hands of Donna. And then we always knew that Donna was going to Virginia, getting prescriptions from a dentist. So I think it all worked out for the best for all of them. It got them off the streets. Hopefully Misty is going to break and talk.

I honestly don`t believe that Ronald knows exactly what happened to Haleigh. He knows that Haleigh`s no longer alive. I think he knows that Misty holds the key. And that`s why he`s holding misty close to him. I have no doubt in my mind after spending 12 days with him and hearing all the inconsistent stories from Misty, that she does hold the key, she does know where that little baby is and that baby is not alive. And I don`t see a plea deal --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. And let me just say this is all speculation as to what`s happened to this child. And as far as Donna, she`s been charged. She`s not been convicted of anything. We would love to hear her or her attorney`s side of the story. Mark, you were saying something.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1003/31/ijvm.02.html


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Post by: Kat_Gram on May 31, 2010, 11:02:08 PM
Ty, I forgot how Donna got into this. But 25 years is way too much. She must have had an addiction before TES, etc and got caught up in it again. I hope there is some relief or even a loophole for her. She seems like she could be a decent woman.
BTW, do you know how many decent women I know who get hooked on script drugs and have had their lives go almost down the drain because the drug triggers something in their brain where the addiction becomes the most powerful driving force in their lives ?
For the Grace of God, it could be any of us. ( Well, me ) .


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Post by: islandmonkey on May 31, 2010, 11:22:04 PM
Heart, got a message for you from Radio~

please tell Heart at SM thanks for posting the blog article about the candle site desecration!!

I wonder WTH is wrong with people that post that chit on a candle site ::MonkeyNoNo::

O/T~ A 4yr old child drown not here but in Perdido Key around 5:30, the family couldn't find her and a young 14yr old kid from Nashville went out in the lagoon in his kayak to see if she was out there and sadly found her body, he jumped out and put her head on his chest and swam her in to the shore where they life-flighted her out but she was DOA. I can't understand how parents can let a 4 yr child disappear from there sight for so long ...........sorry, I'm pizzed at the irresponsibility and the fact this child will never grow up  ::MonkeyMad::, but grateful for a 14 yr old hero who went out and found her ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 31, 2010, 11:22:55 PM
Ty, I forgot how Donna got into this. But 25 years is way too much. She must have had an addiction before TES, etc and got caught up in it again. I hope there is some relief or even a loophole for her. She seems like she could be a decent woman.
BTW, do you know how many decent women I know who get hooked on script drugs  and have had their lives go almost down the drain because the drug triggers something in their brain where the addiction becomes the most powerful driving force in their lives ?
For the Grace of God, it could be any of us. ( Well, me ) .
I have heard of some. But do not know of any personally. I do believe that some of this addictions have been the cause of parents hurting and killing their children, but that is just my personal opinion. Take the Shaniya Davis case for instance.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on May 31, 2010, 11:28:14 PM
Heart, got a message for you from Radio~

please tell Heart at SM thanks for posting the blog article about the candle site desecration!!

I wonder WTH is wrong with people that post that chit on a candle site ::MonkeyNoNo::

O/T~ A 4yr old child drown not here but in Perdido Key around 5:30, the family couldn't find her and a young 14yr old kid from Nashville went out in the lagoon in his kayak to see if she was out there and sadly found her body, he jumped out and put her head on his chest and swam her in to the shore where they life-flighted her out but she was DOA. I can't understand how parents can let a 4 yr child disappear from there sight for so long ...........sorry, I'm pizzed at the irresponsibility and the fact this child will never grow up  ::MonkeyMad::, but grateful for a 14 yr old hero who went out and found her ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks IM.

And what a sad story about the 4 year old!  And yes, heroes come in all ages.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: darla on May 31, 2010, 11:33:07 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!

Finally got caught up with you guys, I am trying to listen to the "lost" Tommy tapes and my ears are bleeding.  I hope they lock his sorry butt up for 50 yrs. I have never heard such whining out of a supposedly grown man. Have we seen any video of Tommy during any of the Taped drug deals?  I don't remember seeing any so just wondering what his part was in all of the drug deals.

As far as Donna Brock...I don't think she is all squeaky clean. I have severe back and leg pain and have had drugs stronger than what this motley crew is on.....I hoard them and stretch them out as long as possible. I do not take them  unless I am to the point of praying to die. I do not see what anyone gets out of staying on them continously to get high. I don't like how I feel just taking one at a time.

Well, well....Hank just told Tommy that Timmy and Chelsea were $1200 behind in rent.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on May 31, 2010, 11:41:32 PM
Heart, got a message for you from Radio~

please tell Heart at SM thanks for posting the blog article about the candle site desecration!!

I wonder WTH is wrong with people that post that chit on a candle site ::MonkeyNoNo::

O/T~ A 4yr old child drown not here but in Perdido Key around 5:30, the family couldn't find her and a young 14yr old kid from Nashville went out in the lagoon in his kayak to see if she was out there and sadly found her body, he jumped out and put her head on his chest and swam her in to the shore where they life-flighted her out but she was DOA. I can't understand how parents can let a 4 yr child disappear from there sight for so long ...........sorry, I'm pizzed at the irresponsibility and the fact this child will never grow up  ::MonkeyMad::, but grateful for a 14 yr old hero who went out and found her ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks IM.

And what a sad story about the 4 year old!  And yes, heroes come in all ages.

YW~I wish I could get in touch with this Malik Ferguson from Nashville and tell him how proud everyone who read that story was of him  ::MonkeyAngel:: , he wasn't a great swimmer either, but is a true hero in my book......if not for him they may not have found this innocent child, but my heart is broken for the family, I just wish they would watch their kids better, and can't tell you them times I've personally stopped young kids on the beach and gone and found their parents who think it's A-OK to not watch them ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on May 31, 2010, 11:43:36 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!

Finally got caught up with you guys, I am trying to listen to the "lost" Tommy tapes and my ears are bleeding.  I hope they lock his sorry butt up for 50 yrs. I have never heard such whining out of a supposedly grown man. Have we seen any video of Tommy during any of the Taped drug deals?  I don't remember seeing any so just wondering what his part was in all of the drug deals.

As far as Donna Brock...I don't think she is all squeaky clean. I have severe back and leg pain and have had drugs stronger than what this motley crew is on.....I hoard them and stretch them out as long as possible. I do not take them  unless I am to the point of praying to die. I do not see what anyone gets out of staying on them continously to get high. I don't like how I feel just taking one at a time.

Well, well....Hank just told Tommy that Timmy and Chelsea were $1200 behind in rent.

I couldn't bare to hear the tapes without a tranquilizer ::piggy:: ........I also don't remember seeing Tommy on any of the UC videos either ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: darla on May 31, 2010, 11:49:37 PM
Gosh I thought the tapes with Tommy and Hank were bad, but Tommy and Timmy can't say anything but the F-bomb. Every other word, why do people do that crap. Ugliest word in the world and I am no prude.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 01, 2010, 12:02:10 AM

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Misty pleaded not guilty to eight counts of drug trafficking. She`s being held on $1.3 million bail. Police say this hidden camera footage you`re about to see shows an undercover officer driving Misty and Ron to a drug deal back in January. Police say they repeatedly sold prescription pain killers to the officer. The deals allegedly involved more than 300 pills of Oxycontin and Hydrocodone.

She could face and Ron could face 25 years in prison if convicted. That means Misty would be at least 43-years-old when she got out. Tim Miller, you have been involved in this case. You actually worked with one of the co-defendants here, Donna Brock, who originally started out as a Texas Equusearch volunteer. And she was, as I understand it, her job was to get close to Misty and get information about Misty about what happened to Haleigh, now Donna has ended up, sort of swept up in this alleged drug ring.

TIM MILLER, DIRECTOR, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: Well, I think Donna did a good job at what she did, if you want to know the truth. She did, I believe, exactly what needed to happen. We sent Donna a certified letter October 31st and revoked her membership because we got information that she was doing drugs. She actually took drugs to New York on an airplane with Misty. And --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Alleged, alleged.

MILLER: We have a witness up there that actually seen it. So I`m going to say it was more than alleged. But anyhow, you know, that`s when I washed my hands of Donna. And then we always knew that Donna was going to Virginia, getting prescriptions from a dentist. So I think it all worked out for the best for all of them. It got them off the streets. Hopefully Misty is going to break and talk.

I honestly don`t believe that Ronald knows exactly what happened to Haleigh. He knows that Haleigh`s no longer alive. I think he knows that Misty holds the key. And that`s why he`s holding misty close to him. I have no doubt in my mind after spending 12 days with him and hearing all the inconsistent stories from Misty, that she does hold the key, she does know where that little baby is and that baby is not alive. And I don`t see a plea deal --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. And let me just say this is all speculation as to what`s happened to this child. And as far as Donna, she`s been charged. She`s not been convicted of anything. We would love to hear her or her attorney`s side of the story. Mark, you were saying something.
 
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1003/31/ijvm.02.html


Is there a statute in the Florida legal system that allows motorists to be terrorized without consequences?  If I had been in Courtney Ballinger's place ... I would expect Misty as wll as Donna Brock ... who is old enough to be Mother ...  to have been charged with something in regards to the road rage incident.

Does Donna Brock have a previous criminal record?  When the road rage and drug dealing incidences are considered as well as what Tim Miller alleges ... it would appear that Donna has some issues.

Janet

+++++++

Misty Croslin’s ‘Friend’ A Paid Informant
Sunday, January 24, 2010 7:18:19 AM


LAKE MARY, Fla. -- Misty Cummings, the stepmother of missing child Haleigh Cummings, was involved in what investigators believe was a road-rage incident in Central Florida on Wednesday.

She was released after questioning.

Courtney Ballinger told the Seminole County Sheriff's Office that a driver and passenger of a blue Dodge Caliber kept gesturing and making threats as they were driving near her on Interstate 4 and on Maitland Avenue about 11:15 a.m.

Ballinger claimed she was chased for about 10 miles.

"They need to hurry. There's someone following me and she's harassing me, telling me she's going to beat my ass," Ballinger told a 911 operator. "She's waving something at me. I don't know if she has a gun. Please send somebody."

Deputies stopped the Dodge driven by Donna Brock, 43, of Georgia, with Cummings, 17, of Satsuma, in the passenger seat, at a gas station just off the Lake Mary Boulevard exit of I-4. Deputies said they approached the car with guns drawn.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/1/23/misty_croslin39s_39friend39_a_paid_informant.html



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Post by: Blumonkey on June 01, 2010, 12:46:46 AM
I hope that Donna doesn't get 25 years.
How the heck did she ever get involved in this ? She didn't know Misty or Ron or any of them from a hole in the ground before this. She needs a lawyer who would like some face time on NG to do a pro bono. I am anti drug btw, but there is something wrong with this picture. I just don't see her as someone who set out to sell drugs with the Croslins or Ron. Or obtain or transport or anything. And, SHE didn't kill anyone. I live in Canada and the Hells kill each other or their enemies and they never do this kind of time.
..
 
I believe Ms. Brock did obtain drugs from her dentist in Virginia and transported them across state lines to Florida to sell, hence the charge of trafficking. I also believe she regrets the day she met Misty Croslin.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 01, 2010, 09:44:45 AM

I believe Ms. Brock did obtain drugs from her dentist in Virginia and transported them across state lines to Florida to sell, hence the charge of trafficking. I also believe she regrets the day she met Misty Croslin.

Donna Brock was 44 years old.  Misty was 18 years old.  I am not condoning Misty's choices but ... the adults in her life have let her down big time.  They all abet rather than instruct her that the legal boundaries are established for her well being.

IMO

Janet
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 01, 2010, 09:58:36 AM
Tommy says he could get another girl, no problem, even if he got out today.  ::MonkeyRoll:: Sad part, he probably could.


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Post by: Heart on June 01, 2010, 10:50:40 AM
Girl's Disappearance Starts Family's Slide Down
Community turns against relatives of missing girl's stepmother, which leads to unemployment, other troubles.

By CINDY SWIRKO
NYT REGIONAL MEDIA GROUP

Published: Monday, May 31, 2010 at 11:39 p.m.
Last Modified: Monday, May 31, 2010 at 11:39 p.m.

PALATKA | Hank Croslin never dreamed he would find himself in the situation he is in now - broke, living in a shelter, two of his children in jail, he and his wife on probation.

"It's like something you see on TV, not in your own life," Croslin said. "It's a scary life."

But Hank Croslin's life is on TV.

In fact, TV and other media have helped make Croslin and his family celebrities in an unscripted reality show - one that involves a missing 5-year-old girl, illicit drug sales, family feuds and other travails, played out on national television, in Internet blogs, newspapers and television news.

"It's strange," Croslin said on a hot afternoon outside a church-run shelter in Palatka that for about five months has been home to him and his wife, Lisa.

Hank Croslin is the father of Misty Croslin, 18, who was the girlfriend, then wife and now ex-wife of Ronald Cummings, the father of Haleigh Cummings.

In February 2009, Haleigh disappeared while in the care of Misty Croslin and has not been seen since.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office now thinks Haleigh is dead, and her case has been declared a homicide.

The case generated a rush of publicity.

Pictures of Haleigh saturated the news.

Video of a sobbing Ronald Cummings and tearful Misty were beamed across the nation on network news and such shows as HLN's "Nancy Grace."

But as more was learned about the families involved, some of the sympathy turned to suspicion.

Authorities said Misty was giving inconsistent accounts. Speculation flew across the blogs.

Just when the story would enter a lull, someone would get into legal trouble - Hank Croslin was charged with doctor shopping for prescription narcotics, Lisa for forging a check, Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr. for various offenses, including drug possession.

Finally, in January, authorities arrested several family members on charges of trafficking prescription narcotics - Misty Croslin, Tommy Croslin, Ronald Cummings, a cousin of Cummings and a friend of Misty Croslin's.

Since then, Hank Croslin became a familiar face on "Nancy Grace," television news and in blogs, thanks to the release of videotapes of his visits with his children in the St. Johns County Jail.

Now, Hank Croslin said, he and his wife have become shunned figures in Palatka.

"Me and Lisa, we were both out of town when (Haleigh) come up missing," he said, "but everybody points the finger at us - there's the Croslins.

"When we were looking for a place - three or four places we were trying to rent - they didn't want us," he said. "It's just like the jobs. Nobody will give us a job in this town.

"I've worked since I was 15 years old," he said. "I've never been without work until now. I've always done good until now."

Lisa Croslin, who did not want to be interviewed for this story, also cannot find work, her husband said.

She most often has had jobs in hotels and housekeeping, and would like to move to St. Augustine, Hank Croslin said, because there are better job opportunities there.

But the couple cannot move because they do not have the money to pay off a combined $2,500 in court costs related to their cases, Croslin said.

Hank Croslin said he has worked in construction most of his life and was making good money doing drywalling in Florida.

He left his home state of Michigan at 16, moving to Tennessee, where he met Lisa Croslin.

They married young - he was 17, and she was 16 - and lived in Tennessee for about 10 years before a more nomadic life that took the family to several states, including Florida.

While living in Flagler County, Tommy Croslin met his wife, Lindsy. Her grandfather owned property in Satsuma. They moved there, and eventually the rest of the Croslins followed.

Hank, Tommy and another of Hank's children, Timmy Croslin, got jobs from the same contractor.

Hank Croslin said things were going well. But then he was injured in a car crash involving a drunken driver that left him with serious injuries that required surgery.

Then, Haleigh disappeared.

"After I'd got healed up, Haleigh had happened, and that's when (the contractor) got rid of all of us," he said. "Tommy was working for them, and Timmy was working for them.

"They just fired all of us," he said. "I wish we never came here."

Drug arrests and lots of publicity followed. Videotaped visits Hank Croslin had with his children that were released by the St. Johns County Jail are a regular loop on the "Nancy Grace" show and are dissected in detail on blogs.

Hank Croslin now receives phone calls and letters from strangers.

"People call us all of the time - I don't know how they get the number. I just hang up on them," he said. "We have some people that write letters. They say they want to be (Misty's) friend."

Another person Hank hangs up on is his mother-in-law, Flora Hollars.

The Tennessee woman created her own media blitz when she said Tommy Croslin gave her details of events leading up to Haleigh's disappearance that implicated his cousin, Joseph Overstreet.

Hollars made the rounds of the "Nancy Grace" and morning television shows. Some of what she said was shown to be false when Tommy Croslin's lawyer released an audio recording of the conversation.

"I don't talk to none of them. If they call, I hang up on them. She went on TV and said some (stuff). We already have enough problems," he said. "But she's Lisa's mom, and she's not going to hang up."

Misty Croslin's lawyer, Robert Fields, said he never anticipated the fallout the case has generated.

Family members, Fields said, have become caught up in the rise of what he considers tabloid media - including bloggers and other Internet sites.

Fields characterized some of the blogs and other attention as "venomous" and done by people who have nothing better to to do with their lives.

"In looking at it objectively, (Hank and Lisa) did not directly create the situation, but Misty is partly a product of their parentship," Fields said. "They are public figures, but I don't think they put themselves out there. Misty put herself out there. It is interesting."

Putnam County Chamber of Commerce President Dana Cameron Jones said crimes against children and drug abuse are everywhere.

Jones said she does not think the publicity from the Haleigh case and the subsequent troubles of the Croslins and Cummings have cast Putnam County in a negative light.

"The reason I don't feel like it is because these things are happening all over the country. ... I just came back from a trip to three states and made it a point to tell people where I am from, and not a single person has mentioned it," Jones said.

Hank Croslin said he has no idea what is going to happen to Misty and Tommy - whom he described as good kids. He also doesn't know what will become of himself and Lisa.

He would like for the family to one day be together.

"I grew up without a daddy. I'm not a perfect dad. My kids had a hard life," he said. "But we have always been close. They are my family."

http://www.theledger.com/article/20100531/NEWS/5315043/1374?p=1&tc=pg


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 01, 2010, 11:07:10 AM
I wonder if Chelsea and Timmy was wanting to get that $2500 for Misty's letter in order to pay for Hank and Lisa's court cost instead of a vehicle.

"I've worked since I was 15 years old," he said. "I've never been without work until now. I've always done good until now."

Lisa Croslin, who did not want to be interviewed for this story, also cannot find work, her husband said.

She most often has had jobs in hotels and housekeeping, and would like to move to St. Augustine, Hank Croslin said, because there are better job opportunities there.

But the couple cannot move because they do not have the money to pay off a combined $2,500 in court costs related to their cases, Croslin said.

http://www.theledger.com/article/20100531/NEWS/5315043/1374?p=1&tc=pg


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 01, 2010, 11:14:36 AM
Tommy says he could get another girl, no problem, even if he got out today.  ::MonkeyRoll:: Sad part, he probably could.
Tommy may be a girl himself by the time he is done with his time and released. Thus becoming Tammy (since he was talking about a name change in his jail house conversion with Lindsy of 4/29), instead of Tommy.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: darla on June 01, 2010, 12:11:29 PM
Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

(snipped from Heart's post above)

Hank Croslin said things were going well. But then he was injured in a car crash involving a drunken driver that left him with serious injuries that required surgery.

Then, Haleigh disappeared.

"After I'd got healed up, Haleigh had happened, and that's when (the contractor) got rid of all of us," he said. "Tommy was working for them, and Timmy was working for them.

 This statement bolded above really gets me angry....it sounds so disrespectful to Haleigh....Haleigh had happened. Sounds like they are blaming Haleigh for all of their troubles. I do not think anything has ever gone "well" with this crowd of cruds. Allo just my own opinion of course.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 01, 2010, 12:12:28 PM
Another Putnam County drug/drug trafficking arrest:

SEAN  PATRICK  ALLEN
GAINESVILLE,  FL

$62,576.00
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=758076&IMG=60041    

Does Sean Patrick Allen sound familiar to anyone?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Blumonkey on June 01, 2010, 01:13:00 PM

I believe Ms. Brock did obtain drugs from her dentist in Virginia and transported them across state lines to Florida to sell, hence the charge of trafficking. I also believe she regrets the day she met Misty Croslin.

Donna Brock was 44 years old.  Misty was 18 years old.  I am not condoning Misty's choices but ... the adults in her life have let her down big time.  They all abet rather than instruct her that the legal boundaries are established for her well being.

IMO

Janet
 
::rhino::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 01, 2010, 04:33:31 PM
Love is not a feeling ... it is the act of the will!!

If Hank loves Tommy and Misty ... tough love is where it is at.  Hank has to make the heatbreaking decision to bow out and allow the justice system a free rein to do what Lisa and him failed to do.  They were not a role model for their children.  They did not teach their children that there are consequences for choosing to defy the legal and moral boundaries established by a civilized society for well-being of all.

Life changing lessons must be learned if the cycle is to be stopped.  Futurer generations of Croslins are in the balance.

++++++++

Reminder

ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL
Misty`s Grandmother Sheds Light on Haleigh`s Disappearance
Aired April 21, 2010 - 19:00:00   ET


FLORA HOLLARS: Tommy and Misty, their mom and dad were crackheads. And they stayed messed up on crack all the time. What time I didn`t have them, their grandmother in Michigan had them. Well, I had Misty. She had the other two.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/21/ijvm.01.html


Misty Croslin's mother arrested
Charges are unrelated to missing Haleigh Cummings
Updated: Sunday, 27 Sep 2009, 4:10 AM EDT
Published : Sunday, 27 Sep 2009, 4:10 AM EDT


NASHVILLE, Tenn. - (AP) -- Tennessee authorities have arrested the mother of a woman who was baby-sitting a Florida girl when she disappeared several months ago.

The Tennessean reports that Nashville police and Tennessee Bureau of Investigation agents arrested Lisa Croslin on a fugitive-from-justice warrant on Thursday. She was wanted by Florida authorities on forgery and theft charges.

Croslin is the mother of Misty Croslin-Cummings, who police say was the last person to see Haleigh Cummings, now 6, when she disappeared Feb. 10 from a mobile home in Putnam County, Fla.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/misty_croslin_mother_arrested_092709


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Shan1628 on June 01, 2010, 06:27:17 PM
Love is not a feeling ... it is the act of the will!!

If Hank loves Tommy and Misty ... tough love is where it is at.  Hank has to make the heatbreaking decision to bow out and allow the justice system a free rein to do what Lisa and him failed to do.  They were not a role model for their children.  They did not teach their children that there are consequences for choosing to defy the legal and moral boundaries established by a civilized society for well-being of all.

Life changing lessons must be learned if the cycle is to be stopped.  Futurer generations of Croslins are in the balance.

++++++++

Reminder

ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL
Misty`s Grandmother Sheds Light on Haleigh`s Disappearance
Aired April 21, 2010 - 19:00:00   ET


FLORA HOLLARS: Tommy and Misty, their mom and dad were crackheads. And they stayed messed up on crack all the time. What time I didn`t have them, their grandmother in Michigan had them. Well, I had Misty. She had the other two.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/21/ijvm.01.html


Misty Croslin's mother arrested
Charges are unrelated to missing Haleigh Cummings
Updated: Sunday, 27 Sep 2009, 4:10 AM EDT
Published : Sunday, 27 Sep 2009, 4:10 AM EDT


NASHVILLE, Tenn. - (AP) -- Tennessee authorities have arrested the mother of a woman who was baby-sitting a Florida girl when she disappeared several months ago.

The Tennessean reports that Nashville police and Tennessee Bureau of Investigation agents arrested Lisa Croslin on a fugitive-from-justice warrant on Thursday. She was wanted by Florida authorities on forgery and theft charges.

Croslin is the mother of Misty Croslin-Cummings, who police say was the last person to see Haleigh Cummings, now 6, when she disappeared Feb. 10 from a mobile home in Putnam County, Fla.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/misty_croslin_mother_arrested_092709


I COMPLETELY agree with this.  Tough love hurts all involved but it is a last resort.  After MANY MANY years of being stolen from by my own sister, lied to, etc etc etc; I went the 'TOUGH LOVE' route.  Didn't speak to her until she realized the hurt she had caused.  Christmas of 2008 was the last time we spoke.  She was found dead on Feb. 9 at age 31.  I loved her dearly but I don't regret using TOUGH LOVE.  This is definitely what Hank needs to do with these 2 "children" of his.  I'm tired of watching ALL of these idiots go about their normal lives while HaLeigh is lost somewhere. Makes me sick to my stomach.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on June 01, 2010, 09:01:19 PM
O/T - if you aren't watching the ROV footage, now would be a good time.  They are getting ready to make the large smooth cut.  I have been following for 3 days now and they have pretty much been working 24 hours a day on this.  Let's pray it works.

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: O4Bull on June 01, 2010, 09:03:20 PM
Oh    My    G o s h...  My EARS!  My brain!  My Sanity!  I suffered through just 2 of the tapes before I decided I'd rather watch paint dry for 6 hours than listen to another.

(my paraphrase)...

Tommy: (interrupting Hank, of course...) no, seriously... you need to get ahold of my brother and tell Chelsea to tell Lyndsy she needs to write me a letter and tell me what she's gonna do...
Hank:  well, bro, I told you everything I know.  She is divorcing you, she ain't gonna keep the kids from you, she loves you, but she's hurt.
Tommy:  yeah, but really, you need to tell Chelsea to talk to Lyndsy, I need to know what her plans are
Hank:  well, bro, she's divorcing you.  I told you already.
Tommy:  Yeah, well I need to hear from her, ya know, I don't wanna just be left hanging here.  Is she gonna stand by me or not.
Hank: no, I told you she's divorcing you.  You're gonna have to man up and take it.
Tommy: I love you.  tell Lyndsy to call me and tell me what the "f" is goin' on. 

Those big ole ears of Tom's aren't for listenin' I guess?  Maybe he flies with them.  That boy is d u m b, dumb.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Magnolia on June 01, 2010, 09:18:49 PM
O/T - if you aren't watching the ROV footage, now would be a good time.  They are getting ready to make the large smooth cut.  I have been following for 3 days now and they have pretty much been working 24 hours a day on this.  Let's pray it works.

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

Been watching.  Can't help but wonder if Kyle is operating the ROV. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on June 01, 2010, 09:26:44 PM
O/T - if you aren't watching the ROV footage, now would be a good time.  They are getting ready to make the large smooth cut.  I have been following for 3 days now and they have pretty much been working 24 hours a day on this.  Let's pray it works.

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

Been watching.  Can't help but wonder if Kyle is operating the ROV. ::MonkeyHaHa::

OMG, didn't think about that  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 01, 2010, 09:30:29 PM
O/T - if you aren't watching the ROV footage, now would be a good time.  They are getting ready to make the large smooth cut.  I have been following for 3 days now and they have pretty much been working 24 hours a day on this.  Let's pray it works.

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

Klaas

All I get is a box with an X in the top left corner.  Any suggestions?  My hubby is flipping the channels but ... nothing.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thanks

Janet

++++++

Live feeds from remotely operated vehicles (ROV)
http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 01, 2010, 09:32:09 PM
Janet I can't get it from that link either for some reason. Go to CNN.com you can watch it there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on June 01, 2010, 09:33:04 PM
Janet - I'll look for another live feed link and post it in Musings for you.  I don't think they are showing live on TV normally but they should.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 01, 2010, 09:35:19 PM
Janet - I'll look for another live feed link and post it in Musings for you.  I don't think they are showing live on TV normally but they should.

Thanks

Janet


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on June 01, 2010, 09:37:23 PM
Check Musings now  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 01, 2010, 10:29:24 PM
Love is not a feeling ... it is the act of the will!!

If Hank loves Tommy and Misty ... tough love is where it is at.  Hank has to make the heatbreaking decision to bow out and allow the justice system a free rein to do what Lisa and him failed to do.  They were not a role model for their children.  They did not teach their children that there are consequences for choosing to defy the legal and moral boundaries established by a civilized society for well-being of all.

Life changing lessons must be learned if the cycle is to be stopped.  Futurer generations of Croslins are in the balance.

++++++++

Reminder

ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL
Misty`s Grandmother Sheds Light on Haleigh`s Disappearance
Aired April 21, 2010 - 19:00:00   ET


FLORA HOLLARS: Tommy and Misty, their mom and dad were crackheads. And they stayed messed up on crack all the time. What time I didn`t have them, their grandmother in Michigan had them. Well, I had Misty. She had the other two.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/21/ijvm.01.html


Misty Croslin's mother arrested
Charges are unrelated to missing Haleigh Cummings
Updated: Sunday, 27 Sep 2009, 4:10 AM EDT
Published : Sunday, 27 Sep 2009, 4:10 AM EDT


NASHVILLE, Tenn. - (AP) -- Tennessee authorities have arrested the mother of a woman who was baby-sitting a Florida girl when she disappeared several months ago.

The Tennessean reports that Nashville police and Tennessee Bureau of Investigation agents arrested Lisa Croslin on a fugitive-from-justice warrant on Thursday. She was wanted by Florida authorities on forgery and theft charges.

Croslin is the mother of Misty Croslin-Cummings, who police say was the last person to see Haleigh Cummings, now 6, when she disappeared Feb. 10 from a mobile home in Putnam County, Fla.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/misty_croslin_mother_arrested_092709


I COMPLETELY agree with this.  Tough love hurts all involved but it is a last resort.  After MANY MANY years of being stolen from by my own sister, lied to, etc etc etc; I went the 'TOUGH LOVE' route.  Didn't speak to her until she realized the hurt she had caused.  Christmas of 2008 was the last time we spoke.  She was found dead on Feb. 9 at age 31.  I loved her dearly but I don't regret using TOUGH LOVE.  This is definitely what Hank needs to do with these 2 "children" of his.  I'm tired of watching ALL of these idiots go about their normal lives while HaLeigh is lost somewhere. Makes me sick to my stomach.   ::MonkeyMad::

 ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 01, 2010, 10:34:37 PM
Looks like the depos were taken today for Misty's case.

2010-05-17 31 TO BE TAKEN 06/01/2010 AT 10:00 AM

2010-05-17 32 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO: DET JAMES HEATH

2010-05-17 32 TO BE TAKEN 06/01/2010 AT 10:30 AM

2010-05-17 33 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO: LT. DON TINGLEY

2010-05-17 33 TO BE TAKEN 06/01/2010 AT 11:00 AM

2010-05-18 34 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED:

2010-05-18 34 LT DON TINGLEY

2010-05-18 35 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED:

2010-05-18 35 DET TIM CAMPBELL

2010-05-18 36 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED:

2010-05-18 36 DET JAMES HEATH



 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on June 01, 2010, 10:35:59 PM
Whatever the story is with Donna Brock, I guess it will come out in court.
I have an opinion how she got hooped into this, but I think becaue it is just my opinion, I will keep it to myself. It will come out. Whatever it is. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on June 01, 2010, 10:40:47 PM
Janet I can't get it from that link either for some reason. Go to CNN.com you can watch it there.

I like watching it here: http://www.boycottbp.blogspot.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Curly on June 02, 2010, 12:04:34 AM
Has Donna Brock's case gone to court yet for trial?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on June 02, 2010, 12:56:04 AM
Has Donna Brock's case gone to court yet for trial?


Not yet. It is either June 15 or June 21. I have both marked on the calendar for her, somehow.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: O4Bull on June 02, 2010, 01:19:02 AM
I can't believe donna got herself sucked into this whole ordeal.  I think she is going to get a huge sentence and it really sucks for her.  It's hard for me to offer any sympathy though, when it comes to drugs.  She is just going to learn her lesson the hard way.  If she hadn't been caught, what else may she have done?  If she doesn't have anything to "deal with", then it sounds as if misty never shared anything (of truth) with her to me.  Makes me wonder, even more, wth she was doing.  If she wasn't getting anything out of misty, why did she stay?  I think there is more to donna than we know.  She's not so innocent, IMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on June 02, 2010, 03:15:17 AM
Tommy says he could get another girl, no problem, even if he got out today.  ::MonkeyRoll:: Sad part, he probably could.

Like this:

 :smt117




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 02, 2010, 08:41:50 AM
Whatever the story is with Donna Brock, I guess it will come out in court.
I have an opinion how she got hooped into this, but I think becaue it is just my opinion, I will keep it to myself. It will come out. Whatever it is. 
Kat, don't know if the following will have an effect on Donna's sentencing or not but:

Bathbuddys posted:

well one of D's biggest problems is that MC was a MINOR when she gave her the DRUGS from ACROSS state lines. big big trouble.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5235877&postcount=81
   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 02, 2010, 09:14:23 AM
Has Donna Brock's case gone to court yet for trial?

GRANNYL  GRANNYL posted:

DCDocket Call)- Used to determine if the defendant still wishes to take their case to trial. DB scheduled for 6-15-10.

JT: (Jury Trial)- Date in which a jury panel is picked in order to hear the evidence presented by both the State and Defense and render a verdict.
DB scheduled for 6-21-10 if she chooses JT.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5236053&postcount=91


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: TxLady2 on June 02, 2010, 09:19:04 AM
Oh    My    G o s h...  My EARS!  My brain!  My Sanity!  I suffered through just 2 of the tapes before I decided I'd rather watch paint dry for 6 hours than listen to another.

(my paraphrase)...

Tommy: (interrupting Hank, of course...) no, seriously... you need to get ahold of my brother and tell Chelsea to tell Lyndsy she needs to write me a letter and tell me what she's gonna do...
Hank:  well, bro, I told you everything I know.  She is divorcing you, she ain't gonna keep the kids from you, she loves you, but she's hurt.
Tommy:  yeah, but really, you need to tell Chelsea to talk to Lyndsy, I need to know what her plans are
Hank:  well, bro, she's divorcing you.  I told you already.
Tommy:  Yeah, well I need to hear from her, ya know, I don't wanna just be left hanging here.  Is she gonna stand by me or not.
Hank: no, I told you she's divorcing you.  You're gonna have to man up and take it.
Tommy: I love you.  tell Lyndsy to call me and tell me what the "f" is goin' on. 

Those big ole ears of Tom's aren't for listenin' I guess?  Maybe he flies with them.  That boy is d u m b, dumb.

No disrespect intended, but.. most people would want to hear such news from their spouse first-hand... not from someone else. I can understand Tommy wanting to hear it from Lindsey, not from his parents. I know she has lost respect for Tommy, but still... she should have been the one to tell him about the divorce. 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 02, 2010, 09:54:49 AM
Oh    My    G o s h...  My EARS!  My brain!  My Sanity!  I suffered through just 2 of the tapes before I decided I'd rather watch paint dry for 6 hours than listen to another.

(my paraphrase)...

Tommy: (interrupting Hank, of course...) no, seriously... you need to get ahold of my brother and tell Chelsea to tell Lyndsy she needs to write me a letter and tell me what she's gonna do...
Hank:  well, bro, I told you everything I know.  She is divorcing you, she ain't gonna keep the kids from you, she loves you, but she's hurt.
Tommy:  yeah, but really, you need to tell Chelsea to talk to Lyndsy, I need to know what her plans are
Hank:  well, bro, she's divorcing you.  I told you already.
Tommy:  Yeah, well I need to hear from her, ya know, I don't wanna just be left hanging here.  Is she gonna stand by me or not.
Hank: no, I told you she's divorcing you.  You're gonna have to man up and take it.
Tommy: I love you.  tell Lyndsy to call me and tell me what the "f" is goin' on. 

Those big ole ears of Tom's aren't for listenin' I guess?  Maybe he flies with them.  That boy is d u m b, dumb.

No disrespect intended, but.. most people would want to hear such news from their spouse first-hand... not from someone else. I can understand Tommy wanting to hear it from Lindsey, not from his parents. I know she has lost respect for Tommy, but still... she should have been the one to tell him about the divorce. 

Imho, Tommy does not/did not want to accept reality even coming from Lindsy. We can refer to Tommy as Mr. Denial. 

Tommy has stated that if he were to be sentenced to 15 years that he would commit the no-no. After being served with the divorce papers, I believe that Tommy mentioned in one of the audio tapes with Hank that they have him on some type of medication and that he was not going to hurt himself.

Someone should keep an eye on Tommy.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 02, 2010, 10:50:06 AM
Girl's Disappearance Starts Family's Slide Down
Community turns against relatives of missing girl's stepmother, which leads to unemployment, other troubles.

Last Modified: Monday, May 31, 2010 at 11:39 p.m.

<snipped>

Just when the story would enter a lull, someone would get into legal trouble - Hank Croslin was charged with doctor shopping for prescription narcotics, Lisa for forging a check ...

<snipped>

http://www.theledger.com/article/20100531/NEWS/5315043/1374?p=1&tc=pg

Maybe Hank Croslin should stop whining and blaming his kids as the reason for his and Lisa's woes.  Maybe Hank Croslin should analysis his life choices and then take personal responsibility for his lot in life.

Janet
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: melisb on June 02, 2010, 12:54:57 PM
Oh    My    G o s h...  My EARS!  My brain!  My Sanity!  I suffered through just 2 of the tapes before I decided I'd rather watch paint dry for 6 hours than listen to another.

(my paraphrase)...

Tommy: (interrupting Hank, of course...) no, seriously... you need to get ahold of my brother and tell Chelsea to tell Lyndsy she needs to write me a letter and tell me what she's gonna do...
Hank:  well, bro, I told you everything I know.  She is divorcing you, she ain't gonna keep the kids from you, she loves you, but she's hurt.
Tommy:  yeah, but really, you need to tell Chelsea to talk to Lyndsy, I need to know what her plans are
Hank:  well, bro, she's divorcing you.  I told you already.
Tommy:  Yeah, well I need to hear from her, ya know, I don't wanna just be left hanging here.  Is she gonna stand by me or not.
Hank: no, I told you she's divorcing you.  You're gonna have to man up and take it.
Tommy: I love you.  tell Lyndsy to call me and tell me what the "f" is goin' on. 

Those big ole ears of Tom's aren't for listenin' I guess?  Maybe he flies with them.  That boy is d u m b, dumb.

No disrespect intended, but.. most people would want to hear such news from their spouse first-hand... not from someone else. I can understand Tommy wanting to hear it from Lindsey, not from his parents. I know she has lost respect for Tommy, but still... she should have been the one to tell him about the divorce. 





I think I read this a different way.  He's not asking if she's gonna divorce him but IF she is gonna STAND by him.  Maybe say he was home when we wasn't really.  That is what I got from that.  "Is she gonna stand by me or what"? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on June 02, 2010, 02:02:54 PM
Oh    My    G o s h...  My EARS!  My brain!  My Sanity!  I suffered through just 2 of the tapes before I decided I'd rather watch paint dry for 6 hours than listen to another.

(my paraphrase)...

Tommy: (interrupting Hank, of course...) no, seriously... you need to get ahold of my brother and tell Chelsea to tell Lyndsy she needs to write me a letter and tell me what she's gonna do...
Hank:  well, bro, I told you everything I know.  She is divorcing you, she ain't gonna keep the kids from you, she loves you, but she's hurt.
Tommy:  yeah, but really, you need to tell Chelsea to talk to Lyndsy, I need to know what her plans are
Hank:  well, bro, she's divorcing you.  I told you already.
Tommy:  Yeah, well I need to hear from her, ya know, I don't wanna just be left hanging here.  Is she gonna stand by me or not.
Hank: no, I told you she's divorcing you.  You're gonna have to man up and take it.
Tommy: I love you.  tell Lyndsy to call me and tell me what the "f" is goin' on. 

Those big ole ears of Tom's aren't for listenin' I guess?  Maybe he flies with them.  That boy is d u m b, dumb.

No disrespect intended, but.. most people would want to hear such news from their spouse first-hand... not from someone else. I can understand Tommy wanting to hear it from Lindsey, not from his parents. I know she has lost respect for Tommy, but still... she should have been the one to tell him about the divorce. 





I think I read this a different way.  He's not asking if she's gonna divorce him but IF she is gonna STAND by him.  Maybe say he was home when we wasn't really.  That is what I got from that.  "Is she gonna stand by me or what"? 


I agree. I heard that LOUD and CLEAR also!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on June 02, 2010, 03:02:20 PM
Tommy says he could get another girl, no problem, even if he got out today.  ::MonkeyRoll:: Sad part, he probably could.

Like this:

 :smt117


    (http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww161/4Siamese/laughdog.gif) Funny, Bearly.

 You would have to be nuts to want to hook up with TC. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 02, 2010, 07:47:38 PM
UCN: 542010DR000740FDXXXX
File Date: 2010-04-28 Disposition Date: 
File Type: DISSOLUTION - DR02
Judge: A W NICHOLS III   

Plaintiffs
CROSLIN LINDSY KATE  Defendants
CROSLIN HANK 


Date Docket Description
2010-04-28 001.CIVIL COVER SHEET 

2010-04-28 002.PETITION FOR DISSOLUTION OF MARRIAGE 

2010-04-30 003.SUMMONS ISSUED TO: HANK CROSLIN 

2010-04-30 004.FILING FEE RECEIPT 

2010-05-10 005.RTN OF SVC ON HANK CROSLIN SVD 05/03/10 DUE 05/23/10 

2010-05-10 DEFAULT AVAIL 05/28/10 

2010-05-10 006.RESPONSE TO SUMMONS : HANK CROSLIN 

2010-06-02 007.NOTICE OF CASE MGMT CONFERENCE 06/29/10 AT 01:30 

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 02, 2010, 08:00:38 PM
Phone call between Grandma Flora and Misty from back in Feb
http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/29736865/misty-call-11-2-12-10-b.htm
snippet

Flo:  What about all over the newspaper down there.

Misty: Right!  Whats on the newspaper?

Flo:  Huh?

Misty:  Whats on the newspaper?

Flo:  Well according to your mama, day before yesterday, it was ah, that you had stated that Timmy, I mean Tommy and Joe did away with HaLeigh. 

Misty:  That wasn’t on the newspaper.

Flo:  Huh?

Misty:  That wasn’t on the newspaper

Flo:  She said the whole damn front page of the newspaper was covered

Misty:  Unph-huh, shes silly.

Flo:  Yeah!

Misty:  That wasn’t on the newspaper.

Flo:  Well that’s what she told us. And we got, you know we’ve got our private investigators up here that doing the computers. And they’re putting us on computer. And ain’t nobody done chit.

Misty:  Well, cause, that wasn’t on the paper.

Flo: Huh?

Misty: That wasn’t on the paper.

Flo: That wasn’t in no damn paper.

Misty:  Umph-huh, cause I keep every article that comes out.

Flo:  Yeah!

Aunt BB:  Why is her mama and daddy lying about it for? Come from her daddy.

Misty:  I don’t know.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Shan1628 on June 02, 2010, 08:22:22 PM
Love is not a feeling ... it is the act of the will!!

If Hank loves Tommy and Misty ... tough love is where it is at.  Hank has to make the heatbreaking decision to bow out and allow the justice system a free rein to do what Lisa and him failed to do.  They were not a role model for their children.  They did not teach their children that there are consequences for choosing to defy the legal and moral boundaries established by a civilized society for well-being of all.

Life changing lessons must be learned if the cycle is to be stopped.  Futurer generations of Croslins are in the balance.

++++++++

Reminder

ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL
Misty`s Grandmother Sheds Light on Haleigh`s Disappearance
Aired April 21, 2010 - 19:00:00   ET


FLORA HOLLARS: Tommy and Misty, their mom and dad were crackheads. And they stayed messed up on crack all the time. What time I didn`t have them, their grandmother in Michigan had them. Well, I had Misty. She had the other two.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/21/ijvm.01.html


Misty Croslin's mother arrested
Charges are unrelated to missing Haleigh Cummings
Updated: Sunday, 27 Sep 2009, 4:10 AM EDT
Published : Sunday, 27 Sep 2009, 4:10 AM EDT


NASHVILLE, Tenn. - (AP) -- Tennessee authorities have arrested the mother of a woman who was baby-sitting a Florida girl when she disappeared several months ago.

The Tennessean reports that Nashville police and Tennessee Bureau of Investigation agents arrested Lisa Croslin on a fugitive-from-justice warrant on Thursday. She was wanted by Florida authorities on forgery and theft charges.

Croslin is the mother of Misty Croslin-Cummings, who police say was the last person to see Haleigh Cummings, now 6, when she disappeared Feb. 10 from a mobile home in Putnam County, Fla.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/misty_croslin_mother_arrested_092709


I COMPLETELY agree with this.  Tough love hurts all involved but it is a last resort.  After MANY MANY years of being stolen from by my own sister, lied to, etc etc etc; I went the 'TOUGH LOVE' route.  Didn't speak to her until she realized the hurt she had caused.  Christmas of 2008 was the last time we spoke.  She was found dead on Feb. 9 at age 31.  I loved her dearly but I don't regret using TOUGH LOVE.  This is definitely what Hank needs to do with these 2 "children" of his.  I'm tired of watching ALL of these idiots go about their normal lives while HaLeigh is lost somewhere. Makes me sick to my stomach.   ::MonkeyMad::

 ::MonkeyAngel::



Sometimes doing what is right isn't the easiest decision...Hank Sr. needs to 'grow a set' and tell his 'monsters' NO MORE...  of course, that's MOO! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 02, 2010, 08:22:42 PM
UCN: 542010DR000740FDXXXX
File Date: 2010-04-28 Disposition Date: 
File Type: DISSOLUTION - DR02
Judge: A W NICHOLS III   

Plaintiffs
CROSLIN LINDSY KATE  Defendants
CROSLIN HANK 


Date Docket Description
2010-04-28 001.CIVIL COVER SHEET 

2010-04-28 002.PETITION FOR DISSOLUTION OF MARRIAGE 

2010-04-30 003.SUMMONS ISSUED TO: HANK CROSLIN 

2010-04-30 004.FILING FEE RECEIPT 

2010-05-10 005.RTN OF SVC ON HANK CROSLIN SVD 05/03/10 DUE 05/23/10 

2010-05-10 DEFAULT AVAIL 05/28/10 

2010-05-10 006.RESPONSE TO SUMMONS : HANK CROSLIN 

2010-06-02 007.NOTICE OF CASE MGMT CONFERENCE 06/29/10 AT 01:30 

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php


Florida Rules Of Civil Procedure

excerpts
 

RULE 1.200. PRETRIAL PROCEDURE

(a) Case Management Conference. At any time after responsive pleadings or motions are due, the court may order, or a party, by serving a notice, may convene, a case management conference. The matter to be considered shall be specified in the order or notice setting the conference. At such a conference the court may:

(1) schedule or reschedule the service of motions, pleadings, and other papers;

(2) set or reset the time of trials, subject to rule 1.440(c);

(3) coordinate the progress of the action if complex litigation factors are present;

(4) limit, schedule, order, or expedite discovery;

(5) schedule disclosure of expert witnesses and the discovery of facts known and opinions held by such experts;

(6) schedule or hear motions in limine;

(7) pursue the possibilities of settlement;

(8) require filing of preliminary stipulations if issues can be narrowed;

(9) consider referring issues to a magistrate for findings of fact; and

(10) schedule other conferences or determine other matters that may aid in the disposition of the action.

(b) Pretrial Conference. After the action is at issue the court itself may or shall on the timely motion of any party require the parties to appear for a conference to consider and determine:

(1) the simplification of the issues;

(2) the necessity or desirability of amendments to the pleadings;

(3) the possibility of obtaining admissions of fact and of documents that will avoid unnecessary proof;

(4) the limitation of the number of expert witnesses; and

(5) any matters permitted under subdivision (a) of this rule.

(c) Notice. Reasonable notice shall be given for a case management conference, and 20 days’ notice shall be given for a pretrial conference. On failure of a party to attend a conference, the court may dismiss the action, strike the pleadings, limit proof or witnesses, or take any other appropriate action. Any documents that the court requires for any conference shall be specified in the order. Orders setting pretrial conferences shall be uniform throughout the territorial jurisdiction of the court.

(d) Pretrial Order. The court shall make an order reciting the action taken at a conference and any stipulations made. The order shall control the subsequent course of the action unless modified to prevent injustice.
more...

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&ved=0CBoQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flcourts.org%2Fgen_public%2Fcmplx_lit%2Fbin%2Freference%2FCourt%2520Innovations%2FCase%2520Management%2520Strategies%2FFlorida%2520Rules%2520Of%2520Civil%2520Procedure%2520re%2520Complex%2520Litig.doc&ei=iPQGTNibO8Tflgebr4CeDw&usg=AFQjCNGgt6ShUaR9aIksVCfonLuvMZ9VFA&sig2=urNx_bSv504bAQlU4JH6Lw


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on June 02, 2010, 08:24:39 PM
Thanks for that transcription, Heart! 

Flo has private investigators??  < monkey laffs >

And I dunno.. in these here parts, it's what's IN the newspaper, not what's 'on' one.  lol  only thing on one is a squished fly that dared to venture forth into our humble abode.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 02, 2010, 08:30:18 PM
Heart,I can't see you,but thanks for the transcription.:)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on June 02, 2010, 08:34:17 PM
It's very strange with no avatars or smilies.. or seeing who is sitting next to ya's in here.  Kinda like being in the twilight zone.  lol  Tho I do understand the need to do that when the traffic runs high in the SM site. 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 02, 2010, 09:16:16 PM
Thanks for that transcription, Heart! 

Flo has private investigators??  < monkey laffs >

And I dunno.. in these here parts, it's what's IN the newspaper, not what's 'on' one.  lol  only thing on one is a squished fly that dared to venture forth into our humble abode.

What gets me is that phone call was in Feb, Lisa and Hank were aware of Misty's story of Tommy and Joe's alleged involvement in HaLeigh's disappearance. And Aunt BB stated that the info came from Hank Sr.

Misty tried to play it off while on the phone with Flo and said that her mother was silly.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 02, 2010, 09:31:33 PM
2/12   Audio of Misty Croslin and Flo Hollar. Tommy and Joe's involvement is mentioned by Flo. Flo stated that Lisa Croslin informed her that it was all over the front page of the newspaper that Tommy and Joe did away with HaLeigh. Aunt BB stated that the info came from Hank   
                                 
4/8   Thurs   Croslin took a polygraph test   

                                 
4/11   Sun   Tommy and Flo's phone
conversation   

                                 
4/12   Mon 9:30 AM   Tommy met with private investigator Steve Brown to discuss the polygraph and the events of the night Haleigh disappeared from her Satsuma home. http://www.news4jax.com/news/23174697/detail.html    

                                 
4/12   Mon  approximately 5:00 PM   TC met with investigators from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, the State Attorney's Office, Putnam County Sheriff's Office and an FBI special agent, and as a result of the two-plus-hour interview, Croslin took the group to the Shell Harbour Road Boat Ramp  http://www.news4jax.com/news/23174697/detail.html    

                                 
4/13   Tues    Misty Croslin-Cummings, who is awaiting trial on drug trafficking charges, was brought from the St. Johns County jail to Putnam County to be interviewed on Tuesday. Investigators began searching that location of the St. Johns River  (approximately 10:00 a.m).  http://www.news4jax.com/news/23174697/detail.html    

                                 
4/14   Wed   Misty Cummings was seen on a dock at the river talking with investigators. http://www.news4jax.com/news/23174697/detail.html

                                    
4/14   Wed   James Werter, Tommy's attorney on JVM: If you listen to the tape, you hear him do a tearful -- and I don`t want to use the word -- I`ve heard the word "confession" made. Wrong word. He was setting the record straight that he had to come forth finally and that he was operating for the past year under a veil of fear. Fear for his kids. You listen to the tape, you hear him complain about it. "I don`t want him near my kids." You know, "I was afraid for my kids." Things of that nature. So it lends to his present credibility.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1005/14ijvm.01.html                                         
                                          
                                          
                                          
                                          
                                          
                                          
   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 02, 2010, 09:32:35 PM
Heart,I can't see you,but thanks for the transcription.:)
You are welcome trim!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on June 03, 2010, 04:11:12 AM
Grrr. It won't let me post! 

Heart, I am thunderstruck at the date on that call.. Feb!  Thanks for pointing that out!  Seems Flo knew that info and sat on it for at least two months, if not longer, eh?  Wonder what LE thought of her 'performance' on NG etc, after those April calls......... knowing that she knew back in Feb and didn't mention that publically anyway.  Hmmm.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2010, 12:28:10 PM
Misty Croslin trial set for Aug. 23

By Cindy Swirko
Staff writer

Published: Thursday, June 3, 2010 at 10:49 a.m.
Last Modified: Thursday, June 3, 2010 at 10:54 a.m.

PALATKA - An Aug. 23 trial date was set Thursday morning for Misty Croslin's seven drug charges in Putnam County.

Croslin - who was baby-sitting 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings at their Satsuma home when the girl was reported missing in February 2009 - is accused of trafficking in prescription drugs. The 18-year-old woman was arrested in January following an undercover operation that resulted in five arrests.

She is charged also with drug trafficking in St. Johns County.

Croslin's brother Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr., 23, was in court as well in Palatka Thursday morning. He entered no-contest pleas to charges of trafficking in hydrocodone and possession of hydrocodone. Circuit Judge Terry LaRue ordered a pre-sentencing investigation.

On the trafficking charge, Tommy Croslin faces a minimum sentence of 44 months in prison.

"He wants to get this behind him and move on," Tommy Croslin's lawyer James Werter said in court. Afterward, the lawyer said his client has told police everything he knows about the disappearance - and the presumed death - of Haleigh Cummings. Werter added that the State Attorney's Office seems to be looking for more information.

Werter said they looked at the facts in the drug case and decided on the no-contest plea.

The Croslins' parents - Lisa and Hank Sr. - attended the hearings Thursday morning. Lisa Croslin said her heart jumped when she saw her daughter. It was the first time in months she had seen her.

"Misty is getting fat and Tommy is losing weight," she said.

Hank Croslin Sr. said he and his wife did not know their son was going to change his plea to no contest on Thursday. But, he said, they support him.

http://www.ocala.com/article/20100603/ARTICLES/100609898/-1/news?Title=Misty-Croslin-trial-set-for-Aug-23


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2010, 12:32:35 PM
Misty Croslin Trial Date Set

Misty Croslin, Brother In Court Thursday

POSTED: 11:21 am EDT June 3, 2010
UPDATED: 11:51 am EDT June 3, 2010

A trial date was set Thursday morning for Misty Croslin on drug charges in Putnam County.

The trial on those charges will start Aug. 23. Croslin's pretrial hearing will take place on Aug. 10.

Croslin is the last person to see 3-year-old Haleigh Cummings before she disappeared last year.

Croslin was one of five people, including Haleigh’s father, Ron Cummings, arrested earlier this year in an alleged drug ring.

Croslin’s brother, Hank “Tommy” Croslin, was also in court Thursday. He entered a no-contest plea on several charges and will be back in court on July 6. A sentencing date has yet to be set.
http://www.wesh.com/news/23780575/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2010, 12:34:38 PM
Misty, Tommy Croslin in Putnam Court for Pre-Trial Drug Hearing

PALATKA, Fla. -- Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr. and Misty Croslin were in court this morning in Putnam County for a pretrial hearing on drug charges.

At the pretrial hearing, Hank Croslin pleaded no contest to one count of possession, a third degree felony; and one count of trafficking in hydrocodone, a first degree felony.

His next court date is July 6. His sentencing date has not been set.

Also, this morning, Misty Croslin's trial was planned for Aug. 23 and her next pre-trial hearing for Aug. 10. Aug. 16 is the last day for Croslin to work out a plea agreement.

Croslin married Ronald Cummings, Haleigh's father, about a month after his daughter, Haleigh Cummings, disappeared. They have since divorced.

Haleigh was 5-years-old when she was last seen at her father's mobile home in Satsuma in February 2009. Misty Croslin was babysitting her when she disappeared from the home.

In April, the hunt for Haleigh was renewed when officials gathered on a bank of the St. Johns River to search an area a few miles from the home where Haleigh was last seen.

Ronald Cummings was arrested in January, along with Misty Croslin, and Tommy Croslin for drug trafficking.

Cummings faces five felony charges, all of which carry minimum mandatory sentences.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=156924&catid=3


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2010, 12:43:44 PM
Hank Croslin Jr. pleads to drug charges

Posted: June 3, 2010 - 11:14am
By Florida Times-Union

Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr., whose sister is the central figure in the case of missing Haleigh Cummings, pleaded no contest today to trafficking and drug possession and will be sentenced later this summer.

His sister, Misty Croslin, was also in Putnam County court this morning, where the judge set an August trial date on her seven trafficking charges. She is scheduled for an appearance next week in St. Johns County on an eighth trafficking count.

Croslin Jr. was charged with possession of hydrocodone in November when he was found passed out in a van. He was later arrested in an undercover drug-trafficking operation by the Putnam County Sheriff's Office and charged in that case.

Under sentencing guidelines, he faces a minimum of three years in prison. The judge could up that to 44 months, or sentence him to as much as 30 years.

A sentencing hearing will be scheduled for sometime after July 6. The 23-year-old Croslin Jr. answered clearly to a series of questions, telling the judge he had a 10th-grade education and had last had a job about a year ago.

Earlier in the same courtroom, his sister was told her cases will go to trial Aug. 23. Her last chance to make a plea will be Aug. 16.

In a dark blue jail jumpsuit and with her hair braided tightly to her head, she spoke softly to the judge and signed notices for each of the seven counts.

http://staugustine.com/news/local-news/2010-06-03/hank-croslin-jr-pleads-drug-charges


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2010, 12:58:07 PM
Croslin Pleads No Contest In Drug Case
Haleigh Cummings' Father, Former Stepmother Still Awaiting Trial

POSTED: Thursday, June 3, 2010
UPDATED: 12:16 pm EDT June 3, 2010

PALATKA, Fla. -- Hank Croslin Jr. pleaded no contest Thursday morning to two counts of drug possession and could be called to testify if his sister, Misty, and her ex-husband, Ronald Cummings, go to trial this summer.

The case has drawn a lot of attention because the people involved are connected to Haleigh Cummings, who disappeared from a Putnam County mobile home 15 month ago, even though the charges are in no way connected to her disappearance.

The kindergartner's body has not been found, but the Putnam County Sheriff's Office recently said they believe she was killed and consider the ongoing case a homicide investigation.

Ronald Cummings, the father of missing 6-year-old Haleigh, was among those arrested in January on the drug charges unrelated to his daughter's case.

Investigators said surveillance videos show five undercover drug deals with Cummings.

Ronald Cummings, Misty Cummings and Hank Croslin were booked into jail Wednesday night on drug trafficking charges.
Ronald Cummings, Misty Cummings and Hank Croslin Jr. all face drug trafficking charges.
The three were arrested in January on drug traffic charges and investigators have released surveillance video showing them involved in undercover drug deals.

Misty Cummings, charged with eight counts of selling prescription drugs, is being held on $1.35 million bond, while Ronald Cummings, charged with five counts of selling prescription drugs, has his bond set at $900,000 bond. Misty's trial date is set for Aug. 23.

The sentencing date for Hank Croslin, who pleaded no contest to two counts of drug possession Thursday, is tentatively set for July 16. He is facing up to 15 years in prison.

If Ronald and Misty Cummings are convicted, they could receive a minimum mandatory sentence of 25 years in prison, although Ronald's attorney has said he expects to reach a plea agreement with prosecutors before his scheduled July trial.

Haleigh Cummings was 5 years old when she disappeared in February 2009. Misty -- Ronald's 16-year-old girlfriend at the time -- was watching Haleigh in Ronald's trailer the night she disappeared. The couple married weeks after the disappearance, then divorced later last year.

tiny 4 logoChannel 4's Jim Piggott is in Palatka learning more about the guilty plea and its effect on the pending trials of his sister and former-in-law. He'll have a live report on the local station at 5 p.m.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/23779917/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2010, 01:08:59 PM
lynnb posted:

Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr., whose sister is the central figure in the case of missing Haleigh Cummings, pleaded no contest today to trafficking and drug possession and will be sentenced later this summer.

His sister, Misty Croslin, was also in Putnam County court this morning, where the judge set an August trial date on her seven trafficking charges. She is scheduled for an appearance next week in St. Johns County on an eighth trafficking count.
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2...ads-no-contest

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5245037&postcount=16


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: NCSunny on June 03, 2010, 02:23:17 PM
TY Heart for the updates, I have been trying to check in here all afternoon... keep getting the Server is too busy, try back later message.

Glad it is working again.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 03, 2010, 02:41:11 PM
Now I really wonder just what GGRSykes has to say in this letter.

Defendant
CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 
Alias


Date # Docket Description
2010-02-03 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO DET/T CAMPBELL 1-20-10 

2010-02-03 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A 

2010-02-03 2 INFORMATION - TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (28G-30KG) 

2010-02-03 3 CAPIAS REQUEST FORM - BOND $250,000 NATIONWIDE 

2010-02-03 4 CAPIAS ISSUED - BOND SET AT $250,000 NATIONWIDE 

2010-02-04 5 ARREST DATE:02/03/2010 

2010-02-04 5 BOOKING NUBMER:10-0276 

2010-02-04 6 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 

2010-02-04 6 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING 

2010-02-04 6 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND 

2010-02-04 6 $250,000 SECURED BOND SET 

2010-02-04 7 CAPIAS RETURNED EXECUTED 

2010-02-10 8 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER 

2010-02-10 9 NOTICE OF DISCOVERY 

2010-02-10 10 STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT 

2010-02-10 11 WITNESS LIST 

2010-02-10 12 DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE 

2010-02-11 13 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-18-2010) IN JAIL 

2010-02-11 14 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (02-18-2010) 

2010-02-17 15 WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT, PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND 

2010-02-17 15 FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER (FAX) 

2010-02-18 16 ORDER SETTING CASE FOR PRETRIAL 02/18/2010 

2010-02-19 17 WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT, PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND 

2010-02-19 17 FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER (ORIGINAL) 

2010-02-23 18 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) 

2010-02-23 19 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010) 

2010-03-03 20 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST 

2010-03-17 21 NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY 

2010-03-29 22 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST 

2010-03-31 23 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER 

2010-03-31 23 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE 

2010-03-31 23 CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010 

2010-04-07 5 ARREST REPORT- TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (28G - 30KG) 

2010-04-07 24 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (05-13-2010) IN JAIL 

2010-04-07 25 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (05-13-2010) 

2010-04-26 26 MOTION TO REDUCE BOND 

2010-05-06 27 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:30 PM 

2010-05-06 27 MOTION TO REDUCE BOND 

2010-05-06 28 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:00 PM 

2010-05-06 28 STATE'S MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE 

2010-05-06 28 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S 

2010-05-06 28 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING) 

2010-05-28 29 LETTER FROM ANNETTE SYKES   




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2010, 02:59:02 PM
Haleigh Cummings Update: Misty and Tommy Croslin Both in Court Today

Posted on June 3rd, 2010
by Jan Barrett in Society and Culture, crime

The woman that is the last one to have seen missing Haleigh Cummings from Palatka Florida was in court today for seven drug trafficking charges she has against her. Misty is scheduled to appear in court next week in St. John’s County to face an eight trafficking count there.

Misty Croslin was arrested in January along with her ex-husband, (Haleigh’s father) Ron Cummings, her brother, Tommy Croslin, Hope Sykes and Donna Brock after an undercover operation.

In court this morning, Misty appeared with her hair braided tightly to the top of her head. The judge set a trial date for Misty in August. She was told her trial date would be August 23 but she will only have until August 16 to make a plea.

Tommy Croslin stood before the judge this morning and entered a no-contest plea to his drug trafficking and possession of hydrocodone charges and it is said that he will be sentenced sometime after July 6. Croslin admitted to the judge that he only had a 10th grade education and the last job he had had was about a year ago.

Tommy’s charges have a minimum sentencing of three years behind bars but a judge could change that to 44 months. The sentence could go as high as 30 years.

Tommy Croslin’s attorney, James Werter stated that his client has told the police everything he knows about the Haleigh Cummings case but apparently the State Attorney’s Office seems to be looking for more information. Werter says about his client, “He wants to get this behind him and move on.” Werter says that once he and Croslin went over the facts in the drug case they decided that the no-contest plea was the best way to go.

Hank and Lisa Croslin, Tommy and Misty’s parents were both in court today for both hearings. It was the first time in months that Lisa got to see her daughter. She told reporters that, “Misty is getting fat and Tommy was losing weight.”

The Croslin’s were not informed of their son’s plans on changing his plea to no-contest today but Hank Sr. says he will support his son either way. To me that is how true parents that love their kids should react. I would have no respect for anyone that could turn their backs on their own children when they do something wrong. Even when we know our children are guilty of something we still should be there for them. We should stand by them and help them learn from the mistakes they made, not keep insisting they are innocent and fighting the world while doing so.

Hank and Lisa have their own problems I know, but at the same time these two parents are going through hell as well worrying about their kids. Some say they should have thought about this before when they were raising their kids but if we were all to be honest do we ever think that far in advance when raising our children. I am sure they want the best for their kids as well but just made bad choices in raising them. I have seen parents give their children the best of life only to have them turn out as murderers or drug users that are in and out of trouble all the time. I have also seen parents that could care less about their children and have them turn out to become college graduates. So one can’t always blame how a child turns out on how they were raised. I know everyone doesn’t agree with me but I am only saying what I know as to be facts of life.

My heart goes out to this family. None of this is bringing us any closer to finding Haleigh though. Why has it come to having to destroy so many lives while trying to find her?  Why won’t the person responsible come forth and admit what happened to Haleigh? We all sit and wait for that to happen. We pray that an answer will come out soon. As for myself, I still can’t give up on the feeling that this precious child is still alive but I am still holding back on my personal theories about what COULD HAVE happened that night. Hopefully soon we will see who has the correct theory if any of us do. It doesn’t matter who is right or who is wrong though. All that matters is that Haleigh is found either way. Until then God bless this little girl where ever she is.

Jan Barrett
http://www.bloggernews.net/124653


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2010, 03:38:37 PM
Operation Pain Killer busts 172

By
Ray Caputo

Prescription drug traffickers in Central Florida have a hard pill to swallow. They've been the targets of a five-month investigation by The Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

The FDLE's "Operation Painkiller" resulted in 172 arrests and 20,000 seized pills since it began in January. It focused on drug dealers in Orange, Lake, Osceola, and Seminole Counties.

Many of those arrested were street level dealers. However, two doctors were also picked up in the operation. Dr. Michael Moyer, an Orange County physician, has been charged with two counts of trafficking in hydrocodone. Another doctor, Roman Mosai, of Westside Medical Clinic in Orange County, was charged with three counts of trafficking in hydrocodone.

http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/06/operation-pain-killer-busts-17.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2010, 03:55:22 PM
Operation Pain Killer busts 172

By
Ray Caputo

Prescription drug traffickers in Central Florida have a hard pill to swallow. They've been the targets of a five-month investigation by The Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

The FDLE's "Operation Painkiller" resulted in 172 arrests and 20,000 seized pills since it began in January. It focused on drug dealers in Orange, Lake, Osceola, and Seminole Counties.

Many of those arrested were street level dealers. However, two doctors were also picked up in the operation. Dr. Michael Moyer, an Orange County physician, has been charged with two counts of trafficking in hydrocodone. Another doctor, Roman Mosai, of Westside Medical Clinic in Orange County, was charged with three counts of trafficking in hydrocodone.

http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/06/operation-pain-killer-busts-17.html

Two doctors, 170 others arrested in drug-trafficking crackdown
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-orlando-drug-arrests-20100603,0,6345572.story


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2010, 04:11:19 PM
Pics of Hank and Misty Croslin in Court

http://photos.jacksonville.com/mycapture/enlarge.asp?image=29859920&event=1017251&CategoryID=9088&picnum=25&move=F&Slideshow=Stop#Image


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2010, 04:14:36 PM
Pics of Hank and Misty Croslin in Court

http://photos.jacksonville.com/mycapture/enlarge.asp?image=29859920&event=1017251&CategoryID=9088&picnum=25&move=F&Slideshow=Stop#Image
(http://photos.jacksonville.com/PHOTOS/JAXF/1017251/29859920E.jpg)

Caption: BOB SELF/The Times-Union--6/3/10--Misty Croslin is led into the courtroom of Judge Terry LaRue by a Putnam Co. Deputy Thursday morning. Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr. and his sister Misty Croslin both made apperances before Judge Terry LaRue in his courtroom in the Putnam County Courthouse in Palatka Thursday morning. Hank Croslin pleaded no contest to trafficking and drug possession and will be sentenced later this summer. Misty Croslin had an August trial date set for her drug charges in Putnam County. (The Florida Times-Union, Bob Self) Album ID: 1017251 Photo ID: 29859920


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 03, 2010, 04:47:47 PM
Looks like she is getting enough to eat now.....and she still looks 12.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2010, 05:05:17 PM
Looks like she is getting enough to eat now.....and she still looks 12.
Thats all those Honey Buns, lol!

(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll122/jojothafreashguy/515ffe6257d7d588c9c9bd5a0b77b261.jpg) (http://photos.jacksonville.com/PHOTOS/JAXF/1017251/29859921E.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2010, 05:08:02 PM
Drug trial set for woman watching missing girl

The Associated Press

PALATKA, Fla. -- The woman who was watching a Florida girl when she went missing will go on trial on Aug. 23 for drug charges in north Florida.

Misty Croslin's trial date was set Thursday. Croslin was at home with Haleigh Cummings the night the 5-year-old disappeared in February 2009.

Croslin is accused of trafficking in prescription drugs. The 18-year-old woman was arrested in January following an undercover operation that resulted in five arrests.

She is also charged with drug trafficking in St. Johns County.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/06/03/1662181/drug-trial-set-for-woman-watching.html#ixzz0ppInLsnR


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 03, 2010, 05:11:57 PM
Thanks Heart! I can't wait to see how this all plays out.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Curly on June 03, 2010, 05:14:04 PM
Pics of Hank and Misty Croslin in Court

http://photos.jacksonville.com/mycapture/enlarge.asp?image=29859920&event=1017251&CategoryID=9088&picnum=25&move=F&Slideshow=Stop#Image

OMG. Thanks for the pics, Heart. Misty is barely recognizable. She's a real porker.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 03, 2010, 05:51:06 PM
Thanks for all the updates Heart. Misty really has let herself go  LOL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on June 03, 2010, 06:26:43 PM
It is only an opinion, (perhaps) Shoey suggested she change her appearance.
Her weight gain was intenional (to look like a little girl) along with her hair style.
All the SOB's changed appearances for the Jury and potential Juriors.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: NCSunny on June 03, 2010, 06:56:38 PM
WOW, Misty really does look different!

I doubt it is by design. It is probably due to the fact that she has nothing else to do all day except eat, sleep and an hour out to exercise everyday. I also doubt if food was ever a top priority for her either...she was either getting high or looking for the next high. Depending on what she was taking, I doubt sleep was a 'must have' to her either!  jmoo.

Hopefully she feels better and will decide this is way better than what she was doing with her life before. One can hope.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2010, 08:54:53 PM
Croslin Pleads No Contest In Drug Case
Haleigh Cummings' Father, Former Stepmother Still Awaiting Trial

POSTED: Thursday, June 3, 2010
UPDATED: 5:15 pm EDT June 3, 2010

PALATKA, Fla. -- Hank Croslin Jr. pleaded no contest Thursday morning to two counts of drug possession and trafficking. His sister, Misty, and her ex-husband, Ronald Cummings, have trials scheduled for later this summer.

The case has drawn a lot of attention because the people involved are connected to Haleigh Cummings, who disappeared from her Putnam County mobile home 15 month ago, even though the charges are in no way connected to her disappearance.

The kindergartner's body has not been found, but the Putnam County Sheriff's Office recently said they believe she was killed and consider the ongoing case a homicide investigation.

Ronald Cummings, the father of missing 6-year-old Haleigh, was among those arrested in January on the drug charges unrelated to his daughter's case.

Investigators said surveillance videos show five undercover drug deals with Cummings.

The three were arrested in January on drug traffic charges and investigators have released surveillance video showing them involved in undercover drug deals.

Misty Cummings, charged with eight counts of selling prescription drugs, is being held on $1.35 million bond, while Ronald Cummings, charged with five counts of selling prescription drugs, has his bond set at $900,000 bond. Misty's trial date is set for Aug. 23.

The sentencing date for Hank Croslin, who pleaded no contest to two counts of drug possession Thursday, is tentatively set for July 16. He is facing between three and 30 years in prison.

If Ronald and Misty Cummings are convicted, they could receive a minimum mandatory sentence of 25 years in prison, although Ronald's attorney has said he expects to reach a plea agreement with prosecutors before his scheduled July trial.

Hank Croslin Sr. said he told his son, Hank Croslin Jr., and daughter, Misty Cummigns, before they saw the judge Thursday to "hang in there and keep praying to their God."

He told Channel 4 he knows his children have used drugs, but he said they are not dealers.

"I think the drug charges pretty much was a set up," Croslin Sr. said. "Misty or (Hank) wasn't drug traffickers. They just was middlemen runners. (Police) have not got none of the drug dealers out there. They just went after Misty and (Hank). It was nothing about the drugs. It was about Haleigh."


Croslin Sr. said he hopes some good will come out of all of this. He said he knows his family is still being questioned about Haleigh and her whereabouts.

"We got to find out what happened to Haleigh," Croslin Sr. said. "We need to know. The parents need to know. We need closure for Haleigh, but I don't think the system needs to entrap anybody."

Haleigh Cummings was 5 years old when she disappeared in February 2009. Misty -- Ronald's 16-year-old girlfriend at the time -- was watching Haleigh in Ronald's trailer the night she disappeared. The couple married weeks after the disappearance, then divorced later last year.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/23779917/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2010, 10:21:53 PM
 Concerned Papa posted:

Believe as you will, but possibly you could save a little room for this, LOL.

Notice in Jessi's picture below that there is only approximately 1" of the bullet clip or magazine that would be below where your hand would be:
   
(http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad257/Papa813_bucket/uzi20micro20mini20with20shoulder20s.jpg)

In the MySpace image below, notice that what I see as a hose coming from below his hand is not only laterally curved (which no clips are), it runs much more than one inch to an infinite distance and completely off the picture!
(http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad257/Papa813_bucket/JOUzi-1.jpg)

Oh well, you say tomato.....I say spray gun. LOL

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5244413&postcount=908






Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2010, 10:24:27 PM
According to RC: There was no fight about a gun and Joe was not at the mobile home the night HaLeigh went missing.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on June 04, 2010, 12:11:17 AM
Is all of Florida corrupt?


Two Florida Cops Arrested

Ex-policemen accused of staging crime scene in 2009

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4226125/two-florida-cops-arrested?playlist_id=86856


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Curly on June 04, 2010, 03:52:00 AM
Is all of Florida corrupt?


Two Florida Cops Arrested

Ex-policemen accused of staging crime scene in 2009

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4226125/two-florida-cops-arrested?playlist_id=86856

Yes. We all are corrupt. Especially us transplanted northerners.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: flamom on June 04, 2010, 08:16:54 AM
Is all of Florida corrupt?


Two Florida Cops Arrested

Ex-policemen accused of staging crime scene in 2009

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4226125/two-florida-cops-arrested?playlist_id=86856

Yes. We all are corrupt. Especially us transplanted northerners.

:)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on June 04, 2010, 08:36:05 AM
Pics of Hank and Misty Croslin in Court

http://photos.jacksonville.com/mycapture/enlarge.asp?image=29859920&event=1017251&CategoryID=9088&picnum=25&move=F&Slideshow=Stop#Image
(http://photos.jacksonville.com/PHOTOS/JAXF/1017251/29859920E.jpg)

Caption: BOB SELF/The Times-Union--6/3/10--Misty Croslin is led into the courtroom of Judge Terry LaRue by a Putnam Co. Deputy Thursday morning. Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr. and his sister Misty Croslin both made apperances before Judge Terry LaRue in his courtroom in the Putnam County Courthouse in Palatka Thursday morning. Hank Croslin pleaded no contest to trafficking and drug possession and will be sentenced later this summer. Misty Croslin had an August trial date set for her drug charges in Putnam County. (The Florida Times-Union, Bob Self) Album ID: 1017251 Photo ID: 29859920


My, oh my....I was stunned when I first looked at those baseball-sized cheeks on Miss Misty!

She's got that same thing going on as Ron does...gaining weight.

Didn't we learn that some of the drugs that are given to addicts to wean them off drugs actually cause the body to swell some....wonder if this is what's going on with Misty??





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: ZooMomology on June 04, 2010, 08:48:25 AM
How come Misty and the others have to go to court in their jail clothes, but somebody, who I won't name here, gets to wear her own purty clothes to court? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: zoeandme on June 04, 2010, 10:40:12 AM
How come Misty and the others have to go to court in their jail clothes, but somebody, who I won't name here, gets to wear her own purty clothes to court? 

That's a darn good question.  Little hussy gets to wear street clothes during court appearances, while these folks don't.  Makes you wonder.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on June 04, 2010, 11:19:16 AM
Is all of Florida corrupt?


Two Florida Cops Arrested

Ex-policemen accused of staging crime scene in 2009

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4226125/two-florida-cops-arrested?playlist_id=86856

Sorry!  I meant the cops!  LOL

Yes. We all are corrupt. Especially us transplanted northerners.

:)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on June 04, 2010, 11:20:26 AM
Oops! Didn't mean to put it in the quote.....I meant....the cops are corrupt!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 04, 2010, 11:34:14 AM
How come Misty and the others have to go to court in their jail clothes, but somebody, who I won't name here, gets to wear her own purty clothes to court? 

That's a darn good question.  Little hussy gets to wear street clothes during court appearances, while these folks don't.  Makes you wonder.

On top of it they are about a size or two tooooo small.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on June 04, 2010, 11:37:58 AM
Thanks for all the updates Heart. Misty really has let herself go  LOL

Hi No Rose & Monkey's,

Could she be taking birth control pills to control cramps?

My friend gained weight due "the Pill" (water gain).


 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 04, 2010, 12:27:20 PM
Thanks for all the updates Heart. Misty really has let herself go  LOL

Hi No Rose & Monkey's,

Could she be taking birth control pills to control cramps?

My friend gained weight due "the Pill" (water gain).


 
Hi, yes that is possible but I'm going with too many honey buns, and junk food, and no drugs.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 04, 2010, 12:31:22 PM
How come Misty and the others have to go to court in their jail clothes, but somebody, who I won't name here, gets to wear her own purty clothes to court? 
Does CA supply CA with clothes and perhaps LC does not have sense enough, time, transportation to?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 04, 2010, 12:35:12 PM
Brother pleads no contest

By Kristin Chambers
Published: Friday, June 4, 2010 1:47 AM EDT

Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr. pleaded no contest to two drug charges in court Thursday morning, just after a trial date was set for his sister, Misty Croslin, for seven counts of drug trafficking.

Croslin Jr., 23, whose family has been the center of the Haleigh Cummings investigation, pleaded to one count of trafficking in hydrocodone and one count of possession. The charges stem from a monthlong undercover narcotics investigation that ended in five arrests last January, including Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, 26, and his cousin, Hope Sykes, 18.

Croslin Jr. could receive up to 30 years in prison for the drug trafficking charge, and a maximum of five years for the possession charge.

When asked by Judge Terry LaRue if there was enough of a fact base to support Croslin Jr.'s plea, his attorney explained that his client had sold 45 hydrocodone pills to undercover officers and had been arrested on a schedule-two controlled substance.

"He wants to go forward and get this behind him," Attorney James Werter said.

While he was questioned by the judge, Croslin Jr. answered he received an education up to the 10th grade and had worked in construction before his arrest.

He will be sentenced in July.

Just moments before her brother entered his plea, Misty Croslin, 18, appeared on seven counts of trafficking in hydrocodone.

She also faces one count of drug trafficking in St. Johns County, which she is scheduled to appear for next Tuesday.

Her trial was set for Aug. 23 in Putnam County.

With her long hair in partial corn rows, she spoke softly to the judge as she signed paperwork.

She was quiet as she was led out of the full courtroom, taking a moment to peek over her shoulder at her family.

The last chance for Croslin negotiate a plea with the state is Aug. 16.

Croslin was the last person to see Haleigh Cummings before the 5-year-old vanished on Feb. 10, 2009. She later married and divorced Ronald Cummings, and has been named by investigators as a possible key to solving the child's disappearance.

Croslin and Cum-mings were recorded by hidden camera selling the drugs to undercover investigators before their arrest Jan. 20.

Cummings is scheduled to appear in court in Putnam County on July 19 for five counts of trafficking in hydrocodone.

kchambers@palatkadailynews.com
http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2010/06/04/news/news01.txt


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 04, 2010, 12:36:36 PM
Pics of Hank and Misty Croslin in Court

http://photos.jacksonville.com/mycapture/enlarge.asp?image=29859920&event=1017251&CategoryID=9088&picnum=25&move=F&Slideshow=Stop#Image
(http://photos.jacksonville.com/PHOTOS/JAXF/1017251/29859920E.jpg)

Caption: BOB SELF/The Times-Union--6/3/10--Misty Croslin is led into the courtroom of Judge Terry LaRue by a Putnam Co. Deputy Thursday morning. Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr. and his sister Misty Croslin both made apperances before Judge Terry LaRue in his courtroom in the Putnam County Courthouse in Palatka Thursday morning. Hank Croslin pleaded no contest to trafficking and drug possession and will be sentenced later this summer. Misty Croslin had an August trial date set for her drug charges in Putnam County. (The Florida Times-Union, Bob Self) Album ID: 1017251 Photo ID: 29859920


My, oh my....I was stunned when I first looked at those baseball-sized cheeks on Miss Misty!

She's got that same thing going on as Ron does...gaining weight.

Didn't we learn that some of the drugs that are given to addicts to wean them off drugs actually cause the body to swell some....wonder if this is what's going on with Misty??





Through experience with my son weaning them off of drugs can cause weight gain but alot of the anti-depressants can cause weight gain and / or water retention.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 04, 2010, 12:37:16 PM
This is Ron's court update. Notice in the first posting the dates of July ... Notice in the second posting ..those dates have been REMOVED. Think this is something to do with the change of date for Misty's trial???

2010-05-06 34 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
2010-05-07 35 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (FAX)(BOND HEARING)
2010-05-10 36 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING(FAX)(NEBBIA HEARING)
2010-05-10 37 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (ORIGINAL)(NEBBIA)
2010-05-10 38 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (ORIGINAL)(BOND)
2010-05-13 39 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER
2010-05-13 39 STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUNCED READY FOR TRIAL
2010-05-13 39 CASE SET FOR JURY TRIAL 07/19/2010
2010-05-13 40 ORDER SETTING TRIAL DATE 07/19/2010 AND LAST CHANCE
2010-05-13 40 PLEA DAY 07/09/2010
2010-05-21 41 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-19-2010) IN JAIL
2010-05-21 42 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-19-2010)


2010-05-06 28 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S

2010-05-06 28 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)

2010-05-28 29 LETTER FROM ANNETTE SYKES


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 04, 2010, 12:45:41 PM
Misty Croslin gets deal deadline

Posted: June 4, 2010 - 12:16am
By Dana Treen

PALATKA -- Misty Croslin, a central figure in the case of missing HaLeigh Cummings, was told Thursday in Putnam County court that she has until mid-August to make a deal with prosecutors in seven drug-trafficking cases that could send her to prison for decades.

Croslin, who called authorities the night the 5-year-old went missing, appeared before Judge Terry LaRue ahead of her brother. Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr., 23, pleaded no contest to trafficking and possession and will be sentenced this summer.

After four months in jail, the siblings are now closer to prison terms that are governed by minimum mandatory sentences that some say give prosecutors undue control over cases because of a judge's limited discretion to waiver.

While the drug cases are not connected to HaLeigh's disappearance, investigators have said they would take advantage of the drug arrests to ask about the high-profile mystery.

One of the few ways for judges to deviate from minimum mandatory sentences is when a defendant gives substantial assistance in another case.

The seven trafficking prescription drug charges faced by Misty Croslin, 18, come with minimum sentences of as much as 25 years, depending on the amount of drugs sold, if she is found guilty.

She also faces an eighth trafficking charge in St. Johns County.

On Thursday, the judge set a trial for Aug. 23 on the Putnam cases. Croslin has a "last chance plea date" of Aug. 16 to work out an agreement with prosecutors, LaRue said.

In a dark blue jail jumpsuit and with her hair braided tightly to her head, she spoke softly to the judge and signed notices for each of the seven counts. Her parents sat in the courtroom and later said it was upsetting to see the two brought into court.

"I about went into a panic attack," their father, Hank Croslin Sr., said.

He said he doesn't think Misty deserved all that.

Her attorney, Robert Fields, said recently that a plea deal was not being considered.

"We're not in the business of giving up," he said.

Fields has said Croslin has been cooperating with detectives about HaLeigh and said it is reasonable to believe pressure to resolve that case will affect the drug outcomes. The Satsuma kindergartner disappeared while in the care of Croslin, who was dating HaLeigh's father Ronald Cummings.

Minimum mandatory sentences give prosecutors significant clout, said Deborah Fleischaker of Families Against Mandatory Minimums, a national organization working to repeal the measures.

Selling pills with a total weight of half a Hershey's bar is enough to mandate a 25-year sentence, she said.

"It shifts the balance of power away from the courts to the prosecutor," she said.

Prosecutors not only have discretion in picking charges, but also are able to set the terms of the sentence, she said.

"The minimum mandatory brings an enormous amount of pressure to bear on the defendant because they have huge sentences looming," she said.

Information in one case can be used in a sentencing deal in another, she said.

Along with the Croslins, others arrested in the undercover operation include Cummings; his cousin, Hope Sykes, 19, who has already been sentenced to 15 years in prison; and Croslin's friend Donna Brock, who was involved in the search for HaLeigh after she disappeared in February 2009.

At Cummings' most recent court appearance, his attorney said they are negotiating for a 15-year sentence.

Evidence in all the cases include dashboard recordings in an undercover detective's car that provide audio and visual images of drug transactions involving hydrocodone pills.

Croslin's brother was charged with possession of hydrocodone in November when he was found passed out in a van. He was later arrested in the undercover operation with the others.

He pleaded no contest to those charges Thursday and, under sentencing guidelines, faces a minimum of three years in prison. The judge could up that to 44 months or sentence him to a maximum of 30 years.

By July 6, a date will be set for a sentencing hearing.

James Werter, the attorney for Croslin Jr., said his client has not agreed to testify for the state when Misty Croslin goes to trial.

"There's no deals on the table," he said.

Werter said prosecutors have been using the possibility of maximum sentences to shake those involved in the case.

"They just want to hang everybody and blast everybody," he said.

The State Attorney's Office would not comment directly on the cases, but prosecutors do use sentencing guidelines, State Attorney R.J. Larizza said in a statement from his office.

"Minimum mandatory sentences are the law, and my office will enforce those laws as necessary to protect the citizens from dangerous, violent and career criminals," the statement said.

http://staugustine.com/news/local-news/2010-06-04/misty-croslin-gets-deal-deadline


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 04, 2010, 12:55:59 PM
Thanks for  the docket update GramaMonkey!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 04, 2010, 12:56:54 PM
Copy of  Felony Warrants for Ronald Cummings, Misty Cummings Croslin, Tommy Croslin, Donna Brock and Hope Sykes...


http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/01/27/felony.arrest.warrants.pdf


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 04, 2010, 01:09:11 PM
The trial date for Misty Croslin has been set, while Tommy pleaded no contest to two drug charges in court Thursday morning.


Misty Croslin will stand trial on August 23rd, on seven drug charges in Putnam County.

Tommy Croslin was also in court Thursday morning in Palatka. He entered a no-contest pleas to charges of trafficking in hydrocodone and possession of hydrocodone.

Tommy’s lawyer says that “He wants to get this behind him and move on”. While he is entitled to his opinion, I would say that Tommy is more likely to be throwing the rest of his life away. Perhaps Tommy has a deal; perhaps NOT. But it looks like to me that Tommy will be sentenced before Misty even goes to trial. Nor, was any body ever recovered from Shell Harbour. He is facing a minimum sentence of three years behind bars, but the sentence could go as high as 30 years. Need I point out that Tommy has been mighty cocky on his jailhouse videos that 3 years in prison would be absolutely nothing for him. Knowing what has happened to Hope Sykes, I would expect his sentence to be more like 15 years. It appears to me at the very least that the old boy did help cover up the murder of Haleigh Cummings for the better part of a year, after all.

Tommy could have requested a jury trial whose decision and sentence would have been appealable. Further, the judge can always override the sentence imposed by a jury. Hank, Jr must be a gambler because he is basically playing Russian Roulette over whether the judge is going to do him dirty. From what I have seen, justice in Putnam County does NOT really care about people doing the right thing however late. With an entrapment defense and the right jury, Tommy could have even walked. So I ask you. Is Tommy Croslin nuts?

http://johnhgohdecommentator.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/tommy-croslin-nuts/



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on June 04, 2010, 01:59:37 PM
Thanks for all the updates Heart. Misty really has let herself go  LOL

Hi No Rose & Monkey's,

Could she be taking birth control pills to control cramps?

My friend gained weight due "the Pill" (water gain).


 
Hi, yes that is possible but I'm going with too many honey buns, and junk food, and no drugs.

:)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Curly on June 04, 2010, 02:03:31 PM
LOL! I was just kidding!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 04, 2010, 02:40:50 PM
Thanks for  the docket update GramaMonkey!

Your welcome Heart. I just find it strange that they would have deleted the previous entries ... so wonder if Ron's case is going to be delayed until after Misty's case is finalized.   I was so hoping that the prosecution would call Misty to testify against Ron ... tit for tat.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on June 04, 2010, 02:59:29 PM
How come Misty and the others have to go to court in their jail clothes, but somebody, who I won't name here, gets to wear her own purty clothes to court? 

That's a darn good question.  Little hussy gets to wear street clothes during court appearances, while these folks don't.  Makes you wonder.

On top of it they are about a size or two tooooo small.

I think they fit fine when they were issued to them. lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on June 04, 2010, 03:28:45 PM
Good afternoon everyone.
I recall back when there was discussion about genealogy and IIRC Seahorse had found the link to Annette Sykes' Husband's funeral service notice.
Annette Sykes' maiden name is Stallings correct?
Isn't there a Stallings couple who live up a ways from the dock search site who have a dock on their property also that are relatives of AS? Her Brother and Sil I do believe. River road or drive isn't it?
Curious.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 04, 2010, 03:29:52 PM
How come Misty and the others have to go to court in their jail clothes, but somebody, who I won't name here, gets to wear her own purty clothes to court? 

That's a darn good question.  Little hussy gets to wear street clothes during court appearances, while these folks don't.  Makes you wonder.

On top of it they are about a size or two tooooo small.

I think they fit fine when they were issued to them. lol

Brandi ~  My comment was in reference to Casey Anthony's street clothing being worn in the court room.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on June 04, 2010, 03:32:19 PM
There is also a detective named Chris Stallings in Putnam county. I remember reading that one day. Anyway, I wonder if he is relative to AS also or?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: ZooMomology on June 04, 2010, 03:34:59 PM
How come Misty and the others have to go to court in their jail clothes, but somebody, who I won't name here, gets to wear her own purty clothes to court? 

That's a darn good question.  Little hussy gets to wear street clothes during court appearances, while these folks don't.  Makes you wonder.

Yup, and they are in the same state, granted different jails, but come on.   What is good for one is good for the other.  I guess her case is more in the news so she gets special treatment or maybe Misty's and everybody's lawyers did not put in a motion for them to wear their sunday best. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 04, 2010, 04:42:18 PM
Art Harris Says:
June 4th, 2010 at 2:03 am

Spiked:

LE has kept relentless pressure on the Croslins, including the parents, to squeeze Misty and Tommy like a vise, and it worked. It’s unclear if the state attorney has enough to indict in Haleigh’s murder, but they are working hard at it. And in working it, there’s been Croslin collateral damage, including small-time transgressions that have taken Hank Sr, and Misty’s mother, Lisa, to their knees, locked out of jobs and ostracized in Palatka. But from talks with Hank Sr, he sounds much better, grateful a local Pentacostal minister with a tiny church and a giant heart has rented him a room and served up extra spiritual helpings that helped deflate his suicidal feelings and instill some hope.

On Thursday, he showed up in court and told both his children that he loved them as Misty and Tommy passed him in the courthouse, where Tommy plead no contest to drug charges and Misty’s trial date on her drug charges was set for Aug. 23.
“I love, you, Misty,” he told her as she walked past.
“I love you too, Daddy,” she said.

more...
http://www.artharris.com/2010/05/28/exclusive-wrong-dock-searched-for-haleigh-body/#more-4390

Art Harris mentions that Hank called him on yesterday.

“Tore me up to see them in shackles,” he told The Bald Truth, phoning me after court to share his feelings.

Thats funny after hearing Hank Sr warning others about AH.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on June 04, 2010, 05:47:54 PM
How come Misty and the others have to go to court in their jail clothes, but somebody, who I won't name here, gets to wear her own purty clothes to court? 

That's a darn good question.  Little hussy gets to wear street clothes during court appearances, while these folks don't.  Makes you wonder.

On top of it they are about a size or two tooooo small.

I think they fit fine when they were issued to them. lol

Brandi ~  My comment was in reference to Casey Anthony's street clothing being worn in the court room.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/hello/Image681.png)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 04, 2010, 05:57:01 PM
This is Ron's court update. Notice in the first posting the dates of July ... Notice in the second posting ..those dates have been REMOVED. Think this is something to do with the change of date for Misty's trial???

2010-05-06 34 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
2010-05-07 35 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (FAX)(BOND HEARING)
2010-05-10 36 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING(FAX)(NEBBIA HEARING)
2010-05-10 37 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (ORIGINAL)(NEBBIA)
2010-05-10 38 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (ORIGINAL)(BOND)
2010-05-13 39 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER
2010-05-13 39 STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUNCED READY FOR TRIAL
2010-05-13 39 CASE SET FOR JURY TRIAL 07/19/2010
2010-05-13 40 ORDER SETTING TRIAL DATE 07/19/2010 AND LAST CHANCE
2010-05-13 40 PLEA DAY 07/09/2010
2010-05-21 41 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-19-2010) IN JAIL
2010-05-21 42 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-19-2010)


2010-05-06 28 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S

2010-05-06 28 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)

2010-05-28 29 LETTER FROM ANNETTE SYKES

Ok GranmaMonkey, could this mean that RC and the state has agreed on the plea deal.

Speaking after a hearing before Circuit Judge Terry LaRue in Palatka Thursday morning, attorney Terry Shoemaker said Cummings, 26, will likely agree to plead to three of five charges. Each of those three charges carries a minimum mandatory prison sentence of 15 years. A judge could order them to be served concurrently for a total of 15 years in prison

I noticed of the 5 dockets:

542010CF000144XXAXMX    2010-01-21   28 grams
542010CF000145XXAXMX    2010-01-21   14 grams or less
542010CF000146XXAXMX      2010-01-21   14 grams
542010CF000253XXAXMX    2010-02-03   14-28 grams
542010CF000254XXAXMX    2010-02-03   14-28 grams

Two of the five charges -- involving trafficking in larger amounts of prescription drugs -- carry a minimum sentence of 25 years. Shoemaker said the tentative deal in the works involves dropping the two more severe charges.

The plea deal might be completed by July 1, he said. Cummings would agree to testify against his co-defendants and would be sentenced after those cases went to trial.


more...
http://www.ocala.com/article/20100513/articles/100519854?tc=ar




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 04, 2010, 06:13:34 PM
This is Ron's court update. Notice in the first posting the dates of July ... Notice in the second posting ..those dates have been REMOVED. Think this is something to do with the change of date for Misty's trial???

2010-05-06 34 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
2010-05-07 35 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (FAX)(BOND HEARING)
2010-05-10 36 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING(FAX)(NEBBIA HEARING)
2010-05-10 37 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (ORIGINAL)(NEBBIA)
2010-05-10 38 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (ORIGINAL)(BOND)
2010-05-13 39 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER
2010-05-13 39 STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUNCED READY FOR TRIAL
2010-05-13 39 CASE SET FOR JURY TRIAL 07/19/2010
2010-05-13 40 ORDER SETTING TRIAL DATE 07/19/2010 AND LAST CHANCE
2010-05-13 40 PLEA DAY 07/09/2010
2010-05-21 41 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-19-2010) IN JAIL
2010-05-21 42 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-19-2010)


2010-05-06 28 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S

2010-05-06 28 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)

2010-05-28 29 LETTER FROM ANNETTE SYKES

Ok GranmaMonkey, could this mean that RC and the state has agreed on the plea deal.

Speaking after a hearing before Circuit Judge Terry LaRue in Palatka Thursday morning, attorney Terry Shoemaker said Cummings, 26, will likely agree to plead to three of five charges. Each of those three charges carries a minimum mandatory prison sentence of 15 years. A judge could order them to be served concurrently for a total of 15 years in prison

I noticed of the 5 dockets:

542010CF000144XXAXMX    2010-01-21   28 grams
542010CF000145XXAXMX    2010-01-21   14 grams or less
542010CF000146XXAXMX      2010-01-21   14 grams
542010CF000253XXAXMX    2010-02-03   14-28 grams
542010CF000254XXAXMX    2010-02-03   14-28 grams

Two of the five charges -- involving trafficking in larger amounts of prescription drugs -- carry a minimum sentence of 25 years. Shoemaker said the tentative deal in the works involves dropping the two more severe charges.

The plea deal might be completed by July 1, he said. Cummings would agree to testify against his co-defendants and would be sentenced after those cases went to trial.


more...
http://www.ocala.com/article/20100513/articles/100519854?tc=ar




Heart ~  I am not a legal begal when it comes to the court proceedings, happenings, etc.  But, I just know that Ron was scheduled AFTER Misty ... and now the judge changes her date ......  They did take the depos from the Det/Lt. on June 1 ... but again, not sure what is taking place.    I just hope that Misty gets a chance to tell ALL she knows about Ron and not hide anything, after all he will not hold back anything to do with her to save his own ass.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 04, 2010, 06:18:23 PM
This is Ron's court update. Notice in the first posting the dates of July ... Notice in the second posting ..those dates have been REMOVED. Think this is something to do with the change of date for Misty's trial???

2010-05-06 34 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
2010-05-07 35 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (FAX)(BOND HEARING)
2010-05-10 36 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING(FAX)(NEBBIA HEARING)
2010-05-10 37 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (ORIGINAL)(NEBBIA)
2010-05-10 38 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (ORIGINAL)(BOND)
2010-05-13 39 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER
2010-05-13 39 STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUNCED READY FOR TRIAL
2010-05-13 39 CASE SET FOR JURY TRIAL 07/19/2010
2010-05-13 40 ORDER SETTING TRIAL DATE 07/19/2010 AND LAST CHANCE
2010-05-13 40 PLEA DAY 07/09/2010
2010-05-21 41 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-19-2010) IN JAIL
2010-05-21 42 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-19-2010)


2010-05-06 28 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S

2010-05-06 28 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)

2010-05-28 29 LETTER FROM ANNETTE SYKES

Ok GranmaMonkey, could this mean that RC and the state has agreed on the plea deal.

Speaking after a hearing before Circuit Judge Terry LaRue in Palatka Thursday morning, attorney Terry Shoemaker said Cummings, 26, will likely agree to plead to three of five charges. Each of those three charges carries a minimum mandatory prison sentence of 15 years. A judge could order them to be served concurrently for a total of 15 years in prison

I noticed of the 5 dockets:

542010CF000144XXAXMX    2010-01-21   28 grams
542010CF000145XXAXMX    2010-01-21   14 grams or less
542010CF000146XXAXMX      2010-01-21   14 grams
542010CF000253XXAXMX    2010-02-03   14-28 grams
542010CF000254XXAXMX    2010-02-03   28-30 grams

Two of the five charges -- involving trafficking in larger amounts of prescription drugs -- carry a minimum sentence of 25 years. Shoemaker said the tentative deal in the works involves dropping the two more severe charges.

The plea deal might be completed by July 1, he said. Cummings would agree to testify against his co-defendants and would be sentenced after those cases went to trial.


more...
http://www.ocala.com/article/20100513/articles/100519854?tc=ar


Corrected the grams on the last one listed: 542010CF000254XXAXMX    2010-02-03   28-30 grams


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 04, 2010, 06:19:43 PM
How come Misty and the others have to go to court in their jail clothes, but somebody, who I won't name here, gets to wear her own purty clothes to court? 

That's a darn good question.  Little hussy gets to wear street clothes during court appearances, while these folks don't.  Makes you wonder.

On top of it they are about a size or two tooooo small.

I think they fit fine when they were issued to them. lol

Brandi ~  My comment was in reference to Casey Anthony's street clothing being worn in the court room.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/hello/Image681.png)

That's OK Brandi .... Back to your comment .. just wonder if they do have to increase the sizes for some of them.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 04, 2010, 06:21:11 PM
UCN: 542010CF000144XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-01-21   Judge: TERRY J LARUE    
Defense Atty: SHOEMAKER, TERRY J

Defendant
CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES
Alias

Date   #   Docket Description
2010-01-21   1   COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (1/14/10)
2010-01-21   1   BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2010-01-21   1   TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE MORE THAN 28 GRAMS
2010-01-21   2   WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $250,000.00
2010-01-22   3   ARREST REPORT - 1/20/2010
2010-01-22   3   BOOKING NUMBER: 10-00276
2010-01-22   3   BOND SET AT $250,000.00
2010-01-22   4   ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO FLAGLER COUNTY
2010-01-22   4   FROM PUTNAM COUNTY, FLORIDA
2010-01-22   5   MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE OF
2010-01-22   5   BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS
2010-01-22   5   RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
2010-01-22   6   ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
2010-01-22   6   OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL (NEBBIA HEARING)
2010-01-22   6   PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS RELEASE ON BAIL
2010-01-22   7   ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO FLAGLER COUNTY
2010-01-22   7   FROM PUTNAM COUNTY, FLORIDA
2010-01-22   8   MOTION FOR PROTECTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
2010-01-22   8   OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS
2010-01-22   8   RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
2010-01-22   9   ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
2010-01-22   9   OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL (NEBBIA HEARING)
2010-01-22   9   PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS RELEASE ON BAIL
2010-01-22   10   FELONY WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED
2010-02-03   11   INFORMATION - TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (28G - 30KG)
2010-02-03   12   MOTION TO CONSOLIDATE FOR TRIAL
2010-02-05   13   NOTICE OF APPEARNCE FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER
2010-02-05   14   NOTICE OF DISCOVERY
2010-02-09   15   ORDER TO CONSOLIDATE
2010-02-10   16   STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
2010-02-10   17   WITNESS LIST
2010-02-10   18   DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE
2010-02-11   19   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-18-2010) IN JAIL
2010-02-11   20   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (02-18-2010)
2010-02-17   21   WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT,PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND
2010-02-17   21   FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER (FAX)
2010-02-18   22   ORDER SETTING CASE FOR PRETRIAL 03/31/2010
2010-02-19   23   WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENE,PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND
2010-02-19   23   FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER (ORIGINAL)
2010-02-23   24   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL
2010-02-23   25   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)
2010-03-03   26   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
2010-03-17   27   NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY
2010-03-29   28   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
2010-03-31   29   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER
2010-03-31   29   ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
2010-03-31   29   CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010
2010-04-07   30   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (05-13-2010) IN JAIL
2010-04-07   31   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (05-13-2010)
2010-04-26   32   MOTION TO REDUCE BOND
2010-05-06   33   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:30 PM
2010-05-06   33   MOTION TO REDUCE BOND
2010-05-06   34   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:00 PM
2010-05-06   34   STATE'S MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
2010-05-06   34   OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S
2010-05-06   34   RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
2010-05-07   35   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (FAX)(BOND HEARING)
2010-05-10   36   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING(FAX)(NEBBIA HEARING)
2010-05-10   37   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (ORIGINAL)(NEBBIA)
2010-05-10   38   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (ORIGINAL)(BOND)
2010-05-13   39   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER
2010-05-13   39   STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUNCED READY FOR TRIAL
2010-05-13   39   CASE SET FOR JURY TRIAL 07/19/2010
2010-05-13   40   ORDER SETTING TRIAL DATE 07/19/2010 AND LAST CHANCE
2010-05-13   40   PLEA DAY 07/09/2010
2010-05-21   41   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-19-2010) IN JAIL
2010-05-21   42   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-19-2010)
2010-05-28   43   LETTER FROM ANNETTE SYKES


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 04, 2010, 06:22:12 PM
Gave some thought as to just what type of letter Annette Sykes would have written to the judge.  Sure, I was curious .. but of course it hasn't been posted.  So, I jotted down some of my own thoughts as to just what it may contain.

REMEMBER THIS IS MY LETTER AND MY OPINION ONLY. 

Dear Judge (?)

First of all, I sure wish the other Judge was going to hear Ronnie's case as he was always the one that ... let Ronnie off with just a little slap on the hand. Now we have to contend with you and not being mean or anything, but the Cummings and Sykes, really don't care for you.

See, Ronnie has been my protector since he moved in with me. He always has a gun loaded, in every room, incase any of those druggie guys that he owes money to come after him. He is ready for them ... and ya know... he would shoot them if they came to the door.

They are always hangin' around my place trying to find out just where Ronnie hides his drugs and pills. They haven't found them yet, as Ronnie has a secret hiding place underneath my trailer, and those guys don't know anything about it. We fooled them, didn't we??

Ronnie likes to shower every day, sometimes twice and being in jail he is limited as to how many showers he can take. I sure wish you would give him some extra special consideration and let him shower twice a day, as his shorts are always full of skid marks .... he always did have a problem shitting himself when things were going tough for him.

So, that is all I have to say Judge. I do hope you will consider my security and welfare and be lenient on Ronnie and let him out on the street again.

Actually Ronnie is a really good boy, just so happens when he and Misty teamed up to sell the drugs, she set Ronnie up... big time.

Thank you, Annette Sykes - by the way, I am Ronnie's grandmother.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on June 04, 2010, 06:24:56 PM
Good afternoon everyone.
I recall back when there was discussion about genealogy and IIRC Seahorse had found the link to Annette Sykes' Husband's funeral service notice.
Annette Sykes' maiden name is Stallings correct?
Isn't there a Stallings couple who live up a ways from the dock search site who have a dock on their property also that are relatives of AS? Her Brother and Sil I do believe. River road or drive isn't it?
Curious.

Hi Patricia & Monkey's,

I found a better site for Marriages! It is free so far.


 Groom's Name: Robert Bing Welfenberg
Groom's Birth Date: 11 Aug 1942
Groom's Birthplace: Missouri
Groom's Age: 31
Bride's Name: Dorothy Annette Stallings Squires
Bride's Birth Date: 11 Aug 1944
Bride's Birthplace: Florida
Bride's Age: 29
Marriage Date: 19 Jun 1974
Marriage Place: Hollister, Putnam, Florida
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race: White
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race: White
Bride's Marital Status: Divorced
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M74824-8
System Origin: Florida-EASy
Source Film Number: 967776
Reference Number:
Collection: Florida Marriages, 1837-1974

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#surname=stallings&collection=fs%3A1674804&p=recordResults&searchType=close&givenName=dorothy%20annette

Need to scroll down to Florida Marriages, 1827-1974

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#r=0&p=allCollections (Florida Marriages, 1837-1974)



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 04, 2010, 06:32:01 PM
Heart ~ Thanks for your update on Ron's court docs.  I had posted the info from this charge... UCN: 542010CF000254XXAXMX  which showed the deleted one's.  Regardless ... which way, he is still behind bars and we can hope for some lengthy jail time ... soon.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 04, 2010, 07:21:18 PM
Good afternoon everyone.
I recall back when there was discussion about genealogy and IIRC Seahorse had found the link to Annette Sykes' Husband's funeral service notice.
Annette Sykes' maiden name is Stallings correct?
Isn't there a Stallings couple who live up a ways from the dock search site who have a dock on their property also that are relatives of AS? Her Brother and Sil I do believe. River road or drive isn't it?
Curious.

Hi Patricia & Monkey's,

I found a better site for Marriages! It is free so far.


 Groom's Name: Robert Bing Welfenberg
Groom's Birth Date: 11 Aug 1942
Groom's Birthplace: Missouri
Groom's Age: 31
Bride's Name: Dorothy Annette Stallings Squires
Bride's Birth Date: 11 Aug 1944
Bride's Birthplace: Florida
Bride's Age: 29
Marriage Date: 19 Jun 1974
Marriage Place: Hollister, Putnam, Florida
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race: White
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race: White
Bride's Marital Status: Divorced
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M74824-8
System Origin: Florida-EASy
Source Film Number: 967776
Reference Number:
Collection: Florida Marriages, 1837-1974

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#surname=stallings&collection=fs%3A1674804&p=recordResults&searchType=close&givenName=dorothy%20annette

Need to scroll down to Florida Marriages, 1827-1974

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#r=0&p=allCollections (Florida Marriages, 1837-1974)


Instrument: 44307   Trans Code: D - DEED
Book: 471   File Date: 08-02-1985
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: PT OF SEC 2-12-26

From   To
STALLINGS GEORGE R   SYKES ANNETTE S
STALLINGS MARTHA G   SYKES MYLES K



Instrument: 476471   Trans Code: D - DEED
Book: 949   File Date: 08-29-2003
Consideration: $ 35,000.00   Description: PT OF SEC 2-12-26

From   To
STALLINGS CARL W   KNOWLES CARL B
STALLINGS GEORGE R EST   KNOWLES EVELYN C
STALLINGS HOMER L   
STALLINGS ORMAND F   
STALLINGS WAYMAN E   
STALLINGS WAYMAN E PER REP   
SYKES DOROTHY ANNETTE   

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/or_public/or_frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 04, 2010, 08:36:16 PM
Homer & Brenda Stallings  111 River Rd. Satsuma ....

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/111RiverRd.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 04, 2010, 08:42:02 PM
Chad R Stallings
160 County Road 309c
Palatka, FL 32177-8988

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?facebook_count=0&linkedin_count=0&lower=9&more_info=1&parent_search_id=71041382411902238213&search_id=75041421498302273158&search_type=findperson&twitter_count=0


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on June 04, 2010, 09:14:27 PM
Good afternoon everyone.
I recall back when there was discussion about genealogy and IIRC Seahorse had found the link to Annette Sykes' Husband's funeral service notice.
Annette Sykes' maiden name is Stallings correct?
Isn't there a Stallings couple who live up a ways from the dock search site who have a dock on their property also that are relatives of AS? Her Brother and Sil I do believe. River road or drive isn't it?
Curious.

Hi Patricia & Monkey's,

I found a better site for Marriages! It is free so far.


 Groom's Name: Robert Bing Welfenberg
Groom's Birth Date: 11 Aug 1942
Groom's Birthplace: Missouri
Groom's Age: 31
Bride's Name: Dorothy Annette Stallings Squires
Bride's Birth Date: 11 Aug 1944
Bride's Birthplace: Florida
Bride's Age: 29
Marriage Date: 19 Jun 1974
Marriage Place: Hollister, Putnam, Florida
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race: White
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race: White
Bride's Marital Status: Divorced
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M74824-8
System Origin: Florida-EASy
Source Film Number: 967776
Reference Number:
Collection: Florida Marriages, 1837-1974

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#surname=stallings&collection=fs%3A1674804&p=recordResults&searchType=close&givenName=dorothy%20annette

Need to scroll down to Florida Marriages, 1827-1974

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#r=0&p=allCollections (Florida Marriages, 1837-1974)


Instrument: 44307   Trans Code: D - DEED
Book: 471   File Date: 08-02-1985
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: PT OF SEC 2-12-26

From   To
STALLINGS GEORGE R   SYKES ANNETTE S
STALLINGS MARTHA G   SYKES MYLES K



Instrument: 476471   Trans Code: D - DEED
Book: 949   File Date: 08-29-2003
Consideration: $ 35,000.00   Description: PT OF SEC 2-12-26

From   To
STALLINGS CARL W   KNOWLES CARL B
STALLINGS GEORGE R EST   KNOWLES EVELYN C
STALLINGS HOMER L   
STALLINGS ORMAND F   
STALLINGS WAYMAN E   
STALLINGS WAYMAN E PER REP   
SYKES DOROTHY ANNETTE   

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/or_public/or_frame.php



Her people are from Alabama and Georgie, if this is her on the 1945 (FL) census.

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#givenName=annette&searchType=close&surname=stallings&collection=fs%3A1457855&p=recordResults

(Annette Stallings)



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: cw618 on June 05, 2010, 12:09:24 AM
http://gis.putnam-fl.com/website/pcsales/viewer.htm?ActiveLayer=10&Query=PARCELID%3d%2739-10-26-3610-0000-3030%27&QueryZoom=Yes

Homer & Brenda Stallings  111 River Rd. Satsuma ....

more stallings at link click biknox=search, name

good find, wonder if misty knew about the stallings



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on June 05, 2010, 12:26:34 AM
Gave some thought as to just what type of letter Annette Sykes would have written to the judge.  Sure, I was curious .. but of course it hasn't been posted.  So, I jotted down some of my own thoughts as to just what it may contain.

REMEMBER THIS IS MY LETTER AND MY OPINION ONLY. 

Dear Judge (?)

First of all, I sure wish the other Judge was going to hear Ronnie's case as he was always the one that ... let Ronnie off with just a little slap on the hand. Now we have to contend with you and not being mean or anything, but the Cummings and Sykes, really don't care for you.

See, Ronnie has been my protector since he moved in with me. He always has a gun loaded, in every room, incase any of those druggie guys that he owes money to come after him. He is ready for them ... and ya know... he would shoot them if they came to the door.

They are always hangin' around my place trying to find out just where Ronnie hides his drugs and pills. They haven't found them yet, as Ronnie has a secret hiding place underneath my trailer, and those guys don't know anything about it. We fooled them, didn't we??

Ronnie likes to shower every day, sometimes twice and being in jail he is limited as to how many showers he can take. I sure wish you would give him some extra special consideration and let him shower twice a day, as his shorts are always full of skid marks .... he always did have a problem shitting himself when things were going tough for him.

So, that is all I have to say Judge. I do hope you will consider my security and welfare and be lenient on Ronnie and let him out on the street again.

Actually Ronnie is a really good boy, just so happens when he and Misty teamed up to sell the drugs, she set Ronnie up... big time.

Thank you, Annette Sykes - by the way, I am Ronnie's grandmother.



GM~That was the funniest thing I have seen in ages and I laughed my arse off!!! Thanks, I needed that today:)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 05, 2010, 02:32:07 AM
GM...I had a laugh with the Dear Judge letter.. ;>)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Curly on June 05, 2010, 02:42:10 AM
GM...

     Letter to the judge was hilarious!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 05, 2010, 02:51:13 AM
I wonder if this area has been checked out. I see there is a small dirt road and I wonder at the end of the dirt road there is a small dock. Is that a boat  I see by 111 river rd...

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/111Riverrd.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 05, 2010, 03:02:35 AM
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/111river.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: flutter1 on June 05, 2010, 04:24:29 AM
Pics of Hank and Misty Croslin in Court

http://photos.jacksonville.com/mycapture/enlarge.asp?image=29859920&event=1017251&CategoryID=9088&picnum=25&move=F&Slideshow=Stop#Image
(http://photos.jacksonville.com/PHOTOS/JAXF/1017251/29859920E.jpg)

Caption: BOB SELF/The Times-Union--6/3/10--Misty Croslin is led into the courtroom of Judge Terry LaRue by a Putnam Co. Deputy Thursday morning. Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr. and his sister Misty Croslin both made apperances before Judge Terry LaRue in his courtroom in the Putnam County Courthouse in Palatka Thursday morning. Hank Croslin pleaded no contest to trafficking and drug possession and will be sentenced later this summer. Misty Croslin had an August trial date set for her drug charges in Putnam County. (The Florida Times-Union, Bob Self) Album ID: 1017251 Photo ID: 29859920


My, oh my....I was stunned when I first looked at those baseball-sized cheeks on Miss Misty!

She's got that same thing going on as Ron does...gaining weight.

Didn't we learn that some of the drugs that are given to addicts to wean them off drugs actually cause the body to swell some....wonder if this is what's going on with Misty??





Through experience with my son weaning them off of drugs can cause weight gain but alot of the anti-depressants can cause weight gain and / or water retention.

I agree -- I could tell when my daughter relapsed and her weight dropped.  Since she has been through rehab she has probably gained 40 pounds.  Part of it is the anti-depressants but I think part of it is the addiction moving from the drugs to food.  The addictive personality never fully goes away; it just moves into hopefully less destructive habits. 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on June 05, 2010, 09:30:38 AM
http://gis.putnam-fl.com/website/pcsales/viewer.htm?ActiveLayer=10&Query=PARCELID%3d%2739-10-26-3610-0000-3030%27&QueryZoom=Yes

Homer & Brenda Stallings  111 River Rd. Satsuma ....

more stallings at link click biknox=search, name

good find, wonder if misty knew about the stallings



Goodmorning CW316 & Monkey's,

This is a great find, I agree. Monkey 'Patrica Mocha Latte' her brilliant memory triggered off a few ideas.  I pointed to a source
GramaMonkey brilliantly gleaned information from the site and Heart kept on going  (along with the other genius Monkey's).
 I am impressed how we can work together. Bravo.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 05, 2010, 09:48:51 AM
http://gis.putnam-fl.com/website/pcsales/viewer.htm?ActiveLayer=10&Query=PARCELID%3d%2739-10-26-3610-0000-3030%27&QueryZoom=Yes

Homer & Brenda Stallings  111 River Rd. Satsuma ....

more stallings at link click biknox=search, name

good find, wonder if misty knew about the stallings



Goodmorning CW316 & Monkey's,

This is a great find, I agree. Monkey 'Patrica Mocha Latte' her brilliant memory triggered off a few ideas.  I pointed to a source
GramaMonkey brilliantly gleaned information from the site and Heart kept on going  (along with the other genius Monkey's).
 I am impressed how we can work together. Bravo.

Sure puts questions out there now.  Remember the statement that 'they searched the WRONG DOCK???  Also, Misty saying that JOE was so f'd up that she didn't now how he even drove.  So, were they at the wrong dock????  Something to think about.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 05, 2010, 10:17:09 AM
Chad R Stallings
160 County Road 309c
Palatka, FL 32177-8988

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?facebook_count=0&linkedin_count=0&lower=9&more_info=1&parent_search_id=71041382411902238213&search_id=75041421498302273158&search_type=findperson&twitter_count=0

Having problems posting- I hope this didnt get posted twice..
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/160309c.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 05, 2010, 10:24:25 AM
No activity = weight gain as well.  I doubt they are doing jumping jacks in their cells.  Sitting around 23/7 for about 5 mos now ... eating and doing no labour, plus the other reason mentioned above. 

Time for the jail to cut out the .. calories ... honey buns ... because they are not being nutritious when it comes to the inmates.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on June 05, 2010, 10:46:42 AM
http://gis.putnam-fl.com/website/pcsales/viewer.htm?ActiveLayer=10&Query=PARCELID%3d%2739-10-26-3610-0000-3030%27&QueryZoom=Yes

Homer & Brenda Stallings  111 River Rd. Satsuma ....

more stallings at link click biknox=search, name

good find, wonder if misty knew about the stallings



Goodmorning CW316 & Monkey's,

This is a great find, I agree. Monkey 'Patrica Mocha Latte' her brilliant memory triggered off a few ideas.  I pointed to a source
GramaMonkey brilliantly gleaned information from the site and Heart kept on going  (along with the other genius Monkey's).
 I am impressed how we can work together. Bravo.

Sure puts questions out there now.  Remember the statement that 'they searched the WRONG DOCK???  Also, Misty saying that JOE was so f'd up that she didn't now how he even drove.  So, were they at the wrong dock????  Something to think about.



Grama,

Gives a me chill (yesterday's) Dock. I like to see a reaction of RC, TC & RC to this new questionable area.

Kudo's on your successful gleaning, Grama, very impressive  ***** (5 star's).


 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 05, 2010, 10:48:55 AM
Chad R Stallings
160 County Road 309c
Palatka, FL 32177-8988

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?facebook_count=0&linkedin_count=0&lower=9&more_info=1&parent_search_id=71041382411902238213&search_id=75041421498302273158&search_type=findperson&twitter_count=0

STALLINGS, CHAD ROBERT (Age 31)
Available PALATKA, FL
INTERLACHEN, FL

Possible Relatives:

STALLINGS, CARRIE LYNN (Age 46)
STALLINGS, CARL W (Age 79)STALLINGS, STEPHEN RAY (Age 53)


  http://www.veromi.net/Summary.asp?fn=chad&mn=&ln=Stallings&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=&city=&state=FL&age=&vw=&Search=&Input=&x=84&y=7





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 05, 2010, 10:56:52 AM
http://gis.putnam-fl.com/website/pcsales/viewer.htm?ActiveLayer=10&Query=PARCELID%3d%2739-10-26-3610-0000-3030%27&QueryZoom=Yes

Homer & Brenda Stallings  111 River Rd. Satsuma ....

more stallings at link click biknox=search, name

good find, wonder if misty knew about the stallings



Goodmorning CW316 & Monkey's,

This is a great find, I agree. Monkey 'Patrica Mocha Latte' her brilliant memory triggered off a few ideas.  I pointed to a source
GramaMonkey brilliantly gleaned information from the site and Heart kept on going  (along with the other genius Monkey's).
 I am impressed how we can work together. Bravo.

.  STALLINGS, BRENDA HENRIETTA (Age 70)

Associated names:

 STALLINGS, HOMER LEE

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

CROSSROAD BAPTIST CHURCH OF PUTNAM COUNTY INC Religious Organizations
 Available(6)

SATSUMA, FL
HANOVER, PA
BALTIMORE, MD
MECHANICSVILLE, VA
HAMPSTEAD, MD
WELAKA, FL Possible Relatives:

STALLINGS, BRENDA H (Age 63)
STALLING, HOMER L (Age 70)
STALLINGS, HOMER

Possible Roommates / Associates:

SOUTHARD, CHARLES H (Age 74)
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 05, 2010, 11:11:36 AM
BRENDA H HAMMONDS STALLINGS
LICENSE NUMBER: RN1761292 Printer Friendly Version   

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 

 
 
   Profession
REGISTERED NURSE

License/Activity Status
NULL AND VOID/ 




License Expiration Date  License Original Issue Date
4/30/1997  08/25/1986


Discipline on File  Public Complaint
NO   NO 


Address of Record
If further information is needed, please contact the Department of Health at (850) 488-0595 and select menu option 3.
 

http://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/IRM00PRAES/PRASLIST.ASP?ACTION=PREV#theBottom


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: cw618 on June 05, 2010, 11:43:57 AM
 
Quote
STALLINGS, BRENDA HENRIETTA (Age 70)

Associated names:

 STALLINGS, HOMER LEE

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

CROSSROAD BAPTIST CHURCH OF PUTNAM COUNTY INC Religious Organizations
 Available(6)

SATSUMA, FL
HANOVER, PA
BALTIMORE, MD
MECHANICSVILLE, VA
HAMPSTEAD, MD
WELAKA, FL Possible Relatives:

STALLINGS, BRENDA H (Age 63)
STALLING, HOMER L (Age 70)
STALLINGS, HOMER

Possible Roommates / Associates:

SOUTHARD, CHARLES H (Age 74)
 



CROSSROAD BAPTIST CHURCH OF PUTNAM COUNTY INC Religious Organizations
i think this is the church, that would not allow MC&RC to marry
in their church
man that was way back, might take awhile to find that info for sure, i have
to finish the lawn soon, im on break LOL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on June 05, 2010, 12:02:03 PM
http://isol.alachuaclerk.org/RealEstate/SearchDetail.aspx



Welfenberg, Dorothy A. (Busy Bee)
Sykes, Myles

Marriage record at Alachua, Florida.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on June 05, 2010, 12:04:58 PM
Quote
STALLINGS, BRENDA HENRIETTA (Age 70)

Associated names:

 STALLINGS, HOMER LEE

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

CROSSROAD BAPTIST CHURCH OF PUTNAM COUNTY INC Religious Organizations
 Available(6)

SATSUMA, FL
HANOVER, PA
BALTIMORE, MD
MECHANICSVILLE, VA
HAMPSTEAD, MD
WELAKA, FL Possible Relatives:

STALLINGS, BRENDA H (Age 63)
STALLING, HOMER L (Age 70)
STALLINGS, HOMER

Possible Roommates / Associates:

SOUTHARD, CHARLES H (Age 74)
 



CROSSROAD BAPTIST CHURCH OF PUTNAM COUNTY INC Religious Organizations
i think this is the church, that would not allow MC&RC to marry
in their church
man that was way back, might take awhile to find that info for sure, i have
to finish the lawn soon, im on break LOL

CW,

When you have free time, will you, please, look-up "Ronald F. Squires, Alachua, Florida"? 

I am curious if he is Dorothy's first hubby.

Thank-you,


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 05, 2010, 12:23:50 PM
Detail by Entity Name
Florida Non Profit Corporation 
THE CROSS ROAD BAPTIST CHURCH OF PUTNAM COUNTY, INC.
Filing Information
Document Number N01000008791
FEI/EIN Number 010502638
Date Filed 12/17/2001
State FL
Status INACTIVE
Last Event ADMIN DISSOLUTION FOR ANNUAL REPORT
Event Date Filed 09/15/2006
Event Effective Date NONE
 
Principal Address
111 RIVER RD
SATSUME FL 32189 
Mailing Address
P.O. BOX 708
SATSUMA FL 32189-0709 
Changed 01/22/2003
Registered Agent Name & Address
STALLINGS, HOMER
111 RIVER RD
SATSUME FL 32189 
Officer/Director Detail
Name & Address
Title D
PICHETT, D.
5976 LONGCHAMP
JACKSONVILLE FL 32244 
Title D
CRIGER, HOWARD
104 ALDER LN
SATSUMA FL 32189 
Title D
DONALDSON, JOY
P.O. BOX 58
LAKE COMO FL 32157 
Title D
STALLINGS, HOMER
111 RIVER RD
SATSUMA FL 32189 
Annual Reports
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?action=DETFIL&inq_doc_number=N01000008791&inq_came_from=NAMFWD&cor_web_names_seq_number=0000&names_name_ind=N&names_cor_number=&names_name_seq=&names_name_ind=&names_comp_name=CROSSROADBAPTISTCHURCH&names_filing_type=



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 05, 2010, 12:34:31 PM
Detail by Officer/Registered Agent Name
Florida Non Profit Corporation 
FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH OF WELAKA, INC.
Filing Information
Document Number N30428
FEI/EIN Number 593530143
Date Filed 01/31/1989
State FL
Status ACTIVE
 
Principal Address
638 THIRD AVE
WELAKA FL 32193 US
Changed 03/08/2010
Mailing Address
P.O BOX 69
WELAKA FL 32193-0069 US
Changed 03/23/1999
Registered Agent Name & Address
WINKLEMAN, GUY H
284 POMONA LANDING ROAD
POMONA PARK FL 32181 US
Name Changed: 02/04/2005
Address Changed: 02/04/2005
Officer/Director Detail
Name & Address
Title T
WINKLEMAN, GUY H
(284 POMONA LANDING ROAD) PO BOX 1027
WELAKA FL 32193 
Title T
HOLT, WILLIAM
200 JUNE COURT
CRESCENT CITY FL 32112 
Title T
STALLINGS, HOMER
111 RIVER ROAD
SATSUMA FL 32189 
Annual Reports
Report Year Filed Date
2008 04/16/2008
2009 03/31/2009
2010 03/08/2010

http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?action=DETFIL&inq_doc_number=N30428&inq_came_from=OFFFWD&cor_web_names_seq_number=0003&names_name_ind=P&ret_names_cor_number=770932&ret_cor_web_names_seq_number=&ret_names_name_ind=&ret_names_comp_name=&ret_names_filing_type=&ret_cor_web_princ_seq=0003&ret_princ_comp_name=STALLINGSGROVER&ret_princ_type=P


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: cw618 on June 05, 2010, 03:27:13 PM
the church for RC&MC marriage was,
Dunns Creek Baptist Church
686 S. Hwy 17
San Mateo, FL 32187
story
http://patrishka.wordpress.com/2009/03/13/ronald-cummings-church-stops-wedding/

found this while i was on church pg....can you believe this
Petition to free Ronald Cummings
http://patrishka.wordpress.com/2010/05/24/petition-to-free-ronald-cummings/
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/free-ronald-cummings

seahorse
i searched,Dorothy Welfenberg, and came up with this


Groom's Name: Robert Bing Welfenberg
Groom's Birth Date: 11 Aug 1942
Groom's Birthplace: Missouri
Groom's Age: 31
Bride's Name: Dorothy Annette Stallings Squires
Bride's Birth Date: 11 Aug 1944
Bride's Birthplace: Florida
Bride's Age: 29
Marriage Date: 19 Jun 1974
Marriage Place: Hollister, Putnam, Florida
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race: White
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race: White
Bride's Marital Status: Divorced
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M74824-8
System Origin: Florida-EASy
Source Film Number: 967776
Reference Number:
Collection: Florida Marriages, 1837-1974

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=home

running a search on theses names yields 200+ pgs ea. name
Dorothy Annette Stallings Squires Welfenberg
and for Ronald F. Squires, nothing in fla yet, pertaining to Dorothy

do we know her maiden name


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 05, 2010, 05:04:38 PM
Quote from: RiverWalk on March 31, 2009, 10:39:48 PM
Someone (?) was asking what was Mrs. Sykes maiden name.  After going through records in Putnam County ...

I think her dad was George Robert Stallings.  Brothers are Homer L. Stallings, Carl W. Stallings, Wayman E. Stallings and Ormand F. Stallings.

Way tooo much to document/link.  Go here:
https://www.putnam-fl.com/secure/public_menu.php

Click top category "Official Records".  Enter any last name you wish with % sign after.
i.e.  Sykes%

Night.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4777.msg747494


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 05, 2010, 05:38:03 PM
Quote from: RiverWalk on March 31, 2009, 10:39:48 PM
Someone (?) was asking what was Mrs. Sykes maiden name.  After going through records in Putnam County ...

I think her dad was George Robert Stallings.  Brothers are Homer L. Stallings, Carl W. Stallings, Wayman E. Stallings and Ormand F. Stallings.

Way tooo much to document/link.  Go here:
https://www.putnam-fl.com/secure/public_menu.php

Click top category "Official Records".  Enter any last name you wish with % sign after.
i.e.  Sykes%

Night.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4777.msg747494

Yea we check that out a while back. I dont know if I stilll have the documents..
GGranny Sykes was a Stallings.. Their father died and had an estate to contend with.

I believe they were from Ga.. Maybe her marriage to Squires was in GA..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 05, 2010, 05:41:48 PM
Quote from: seahorse on May 21, 2009, 06:01:29 PM

Annette Sykes, father's obit from www.findagrave.com  IMO

Birth:  unknown
Death:  Dec. 8, 2002

George Robert Stallings, 93, of Welaka died Sunday, December 8, 2002 at the residence of his son in Francis following an extended illness.

He was a native of Lowell County, Georgia. He served in the U.S. Navy on the U.S.S. Missouri.
He later owned and operated a barber shop in Boston, Ga. before moving to Brunswick, Ga., where he worked in a defense plant for several years.

He had been a resident of Putnam County for the past 59 years, first living in Francis and after 1968 in Welaka, where he had been a member of the Welaka Baptist Church for many years. He worked for the City of Palatka as a policeman up until 1948 when he went to work at the former Hudson Pulp and Paper Corp. in Palatka. He helped to construct the mill and remained employed there until 1959 when he retired on disability.

He was preceded in death by his wives: Iliff Stallings, Martha Stallings and Vera Stallings; one daughter: Hildred Stallings; and one son: George Martin Stallings.

He is survived by four sons and daughters-in-law: Carl and Neville Stallings, Wayman and Jean Stallings, and Ormand and Ruby Stallings, all of Francis; and Homer and Brenda Stallings, Satsuma; one daughter: Annette Sykes, Welaka; 18 grandchildren; 39 great grandchildren and 11 great great grandchildren.
Flowers are gratefully accepted or memorial gifts may be sent to Hospice of the Lakes, 6400 St. Johns Ave., Palatka, FL 32177.

Calling hours will be from 5 until 7 p.m., Wednesday at Masters Funeral Home, Palatka.
Funeral services will be 11 a.m., Thursday, Dec. 12 at the funeral home, with the Rev. Sonny Pipkins officiating.

In honor of Mr. Stallings life a video tribute will be shown during the service.
Interment will follow in Palatka Memorial Gardens.
Masters Funeral Home of Palatka is in charge of arrangements
 
Burial:
Palatka Memorial Gardens
Palatka
Putnam County
Florida, USA
 
Created by: Kristy Thomas
Record added: Mar 02, 2008
Find A Grave Memorial# 24993154
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5032.msg815879#msg815879


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on June 05, 2010, 06:18:16 PM
Quote from: seahorse on May 21, 2009, 06:01:29 PM

Annette Sykes, father's obit from www.findagrave.com  IMO

Birth:  unknown
Death:  Dec. 8, 2002

George Robert Stallings, 93, of Welaka died Sunday, December 8, 2002 at the residence of his son in Francis following an extended illness.

He was a native of Lowell County, Georgia. He served in the U.S. Navy on the U.S.S. Missouri.
He later owned and operated a barber shop in Boston, Ga. before moving to Brunswick, Ga., where he worked in a defense plant for several years.

He had been a resident of Putnam County for the past 59 years, first living in Francis and after 1968 in Welaka, where he had been a member of the Welaka Baptist Church for many years. He worked for the City of Palatka as a policeman up until 1948 when he went to work at the former Hudson Pulp and Paper Corp. in Palatka. He helped to construct the mill and remained employed there until 1959 when he retired on disability.

He was preceded in death by his wives: Iliff Stallings, Martha Stallings and Vera Stallings; one daughter: Hildred Stallings; and one son: George Martin Stallings.

He is survived by four sons and daughters-in-law: Carl and Neville Stallings, Wayman and Jean Stallings, and Ormand and Ruby Stallings, all of Francis; and Homer and Brenda Stallings, Satsuma; one daughter: Annette Sykes, Welaka; 18 grandchildren; 39 great grandchildren and 11 great great grandchildren.
Flowers are gratefully accepted or memorial gifts may be sent to Hospice of the Lakes, 6400 St. Johns Ave., Palatka, FL 32177.

Calling hours will be from 5 until 7 p.m., Wednesday at Masters Funeral Home, Palatka.
Funeral services will be 11 a.m., Thursday, Dec. 12 at the funeral home, with the Rev. Sonny Pipkins officiating.

In honor of Mr. Stallings life a video tribute will be shown during the service.
Interment will follow in Palatka Memorial Gardens.
Masters Funeral Home of Palatka is in charge of arrangements
 
Burial:
Palatka Memorial Gardens
Palatka
Putnam County
Florida, USA
 
Created by: Kristy Thomas
Record added: Mar 02, 2008
Find A Grave Memorial# 24993154
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5032.msg815879#msg815879

Hi Heart & Monkey's,


Thank-you refreshing our memorie's on the Obit and for the map of Homer Stallings, very impressive.

Thanks to hard working Monkey's too.

AS Dad worked as a P.O. it makes good sense about RC, doesn't it?  Hymm...











Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on June 05, 2010, 06:27:33 PM
the church for RC&MC marriage was,
Dunns Creek Baptist Church
686 S. Hwy 17
San Mateo, FL 32187
story
http://patrishka.wordpress.com/2009/03/13/ronald-cummings-church-stops-wedding/

found this while i was on church pg....can you believe this
Petition to free Ronald Cummings
http://patrishka.wordpress.com/2010/05/24/petition-to-free-ronald-cummings/
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/free-ronald-cummings

seahorse
i searched,Dorothy Welfenberg, and came up with this


Groom's Name: Robert Bing Welfenberg
Groom's Birth Date: 11 Aug 1942
Groom's Birthplace: Missouri
Groom's Age: 31
Bride's Name: Dorothy Annette Stallings Squires
Bride's Birth Date: 11 Aug 1944
Bride's Birthplace: Florida
Bride's Age: 29
Marriage Date: 19 Jun 1974
Marriage Place: Hollister, Putnam, Florida
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race: White
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race: White
Bride's Marital Status: Divorced
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M74824-8
System Origin: Florida-EASy
Source Film Number: 967776
Reference Number:
Collection: Florida Marriages, 1837-1974

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=home

running a search on theses names yields 200+ pgs ea. name
Dorothy Annette Stallings Squires Welfenberg
and for Ronald F. Squires, nothing in fla yet, pertaining to Dorothy

do we know her maiden name


CW,

Dorothy Annette Stallings
, she is also Annette Stallings or Dorothy A. Stallings.

'Stallings' is her surname or birthname. 

Her first husband "Squires", he is a puzzle!  I do not know what his first name is, maybe Ronald or Donald? b.1942 ?

You are pretty handy with your typewritter:) Thank-you for your information.







Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on June 05, 2010, 06:32:46 PM
Sorry, CW318,

Mr.Squires, (first husband) they could have married in another state, we do not know if Dorothy Annette Stallings
married in Florida or not. Just thought of that...

I wonder if Squires was in St. Louis, Minn., because DAS remarried her second husband in St.Louis.

Thank-you,





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 05, 2010, 06:39:55 PM
Sorry, CW318,

Mr.Squires, (first husband) they could have married in another state, we do not know if Dorothy Annette Stallings
married in Florida or not. Just thought of that...

I wonder if Squires was in St. Louis, Minn., because DAS remarried her second husband in St.Louis.

Thank-you,





Ronald M Squires

View Details
 73
Crescent City, FL
Welaka, FL
Ormond Beach, FL
Port Orange, FL

relatives
Barbi J Squires (48)
Barbara J Squires (48)
Donald Robert Squires (49)
Elisa G Squires (51)
Ron M Squires (73)
Patricia Joan Squires (69)
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 05, 2010, 09:23:58 PM
George Robert Stallings,  GGM Sykes father worked for the City of Palatka as a policeman up until 1948 when he went to work at the former Hudson Pulp and Paper Corp. in Palatka.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 05, 2010, 09:26:41 PM
STALLINGS, SUZETTE C (Age 56)

Associated names:

 STALLING, SUZETTE C
 STALLINGS, SUZETTE S
   Available(3)    Available    SAN MATEO, FL
PALATKA, FL
EAST PALATKA, FL    Possible Relatives:

STALLINGS, CARRIE LYNN (Age 46)
STALLINGS, NEVILLE T (Age 77)
STALLINGSJR, CARL W (Age 55)
STALLINGS, KATHERYN D (Age 36)
STALLINGS, CARL W (Age 34)
STALLINGS, STEPHEN R (Age 33)
STALLINGS, JR CARL
III, CARL STALLINGS

Possible Roommates / Associates:

WILLIAMS, BRAD ANTHONY (Age 45)
   V


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on June 06, 2010, 07:10:07 AM
George Robert Stallings,  GGM Sykes father worked for the City of Palatka as a policeman up until 1948 when he went to work at the former Hudson Pulp and Paper Corp. in Palatka.



Goodmorning Heart & Monkey's,

Pop didn't passed away until 2002 (I believe) he likely had "connections".

Thank-you, again, for refreshing our memories.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on June 06, 2010, 07:13:26 AM
Sorry, CW318,

Mr.Squires, (first husband) they could have married in another state, we do not know if Dorothy Annette Stallings
married in Florida or not. Just thought of that...

I wonder if Squires was in St. Louis, Minn., because DAS remarried her second husband in St.Louis.

Thank-you,





Ronald M Squires

View Details
 73
Crescent City, FL
Welaka, FL
Ormond Beach, FL
Port Orange, FL

relatives
Barbi J Squires (48)
Barbara J Squires (48)
Donald Robert Squires (49)
Elisa G Squires (51)
Ron M Squires (73)
Patricia Joan Squires (69)
 


Thank-you, Jersey, sounds like he blew the Popsicle stand, (as a friend once said) meaning he flew the coop.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 06, 2010, 09:57:06 AM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/06/simon-barrett-show.html
Sunday, June 06, 2010
Simon Barrett Show
<snipped>
One topic that is sure to be of interest is Tommy's entered plea of "No Contest". After the confusing and conflicting accounts attributed by him, he apparently lost all currency of trade with the prosecutors. What will his sentence be? Did Ronald Cummings beat him to the punch in cutting a deal for "only" 15 years before Tommy could play ball?

This case is coming to a point of crisis, and I continue to believe that we will see a Grand Jury convened IF we do not get relevant information from the deal seekers.
It began with the sentence of Hope Sykes!
Again, I hope to hear from you!
Peter

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/simon-barrett
Posted by Seamus O Riley at 6:18 AM


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: cw618 on June 06, 2010, 11:08:03 AM
do we know how old GGM Sykes is
and has anyone tipped the LE about this new info
they may be interested, as there is a large wooded area and a dock
one more thing, which tape was it that, hank sr. was talking to tommy
and his wife about when they went fishing, hank seemed to have a vague
memory of the event
THEY...tom,hank,JO
thanks


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 06, 2010, 11:15:40 AM
????Bonita Stallings from CO to CO Sgt. MARION CI
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/pub/compass/0307/15.html

Instrument: 440880   Trans Code: MAR - MARRIAGE RECORD
Book: 896   File Date: 06-04-2002
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: 2002 0278

From   To
COLEMAN BONITA CAROL   EX PARTE
STALLINGS CHRISTOPHER MICHAEL
http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/or_public/or_frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on June 06, 2010, 01:16:37 PM
do we know how old GGM Sykes is
and has anyone tipped the LE about this new info
they may be interested, as there is a large wooded area and a dock
one more thing, which tape was it that, hank sr. was talking to tommy
and his wife about when they went fishing, hank seemed to have a vague
memory of the event
THEY...tom,hank,JO
thanks

Bride's Name: Dorothy Annette Stallings Squires
Bride's Birth Date: 11 Aug 1944

From: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7740.msg1148395#msg1148395




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on June 06, 2010, 06:13:48 PM
DON'T MISS TONIGHT AT 9PM ET - DANA PRETZER!

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on June 06, 2010, 06:28:34 PM
do we know how old GGM Sykes is
and has anyone tipped the LE about this new info
they may be interested, as there is a large wooded area and a dock
one more thing, which tape was it that, hank sr. was talking to tommy
and his wife about when they went fishing, hank seemed to have a vague
memory of the event
THEY...tom,hank,JO
thanks

CW,

I found a "Donald R. Squires" divorce in Rice, Minnesota.  I do not have a membership to access the other party.

Yes, I agree the potential new dock information is curious.


http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=MNdivorce&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_db&gsfn=dorothy+annette&gsln=squires&_81004010=1944&uidh=000


  Guessing...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 06, 2010, 08:03:53 PM
Snip of Haleigh Cummings & Caylee Anthony – Radio Wrap For June/6

Over on the Haleigh Cummings case there were a number of developments. None of which seem to be helpful for the characters currently sitting behind bars on the ‘unrelated’ drug case.

To plea out and take a 15 year sentence, doesn’t make for happy campers! Tommy still seems to think that he is going to get far less. But his ‘nolo’ plea may well backfire. He also faces other charges, and that 3 years he talks about is about as likely as the ‘Tooth Fairy’ visiting Casey Anthony about her recent fall and chipped tooth.

We also played a short clip of a jail house conversation between Tommy Croslin and his wife Lindsay Croslin. It comes from the day that Tommy took his latest Lie Detector Test. This recording was made about two weeks before Lindsay filed for divorce. If you have not heard this recording, you should.

Where does the case move next?

The panel seemed convinced that while the ‘big three’ Ronald Cummings, Misty Croslin, and Tommy Croslin are safely behind bars, there may indeed be some people that are also involved.

You can listen to the entire program here  http://www.blogtalkradio.com/simon-barrett/2010/06/06/haleigh-cummings-caylee-anthony.

http://www.bloggernews.net/124671


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on June 06, 2010, 08:59:39 PM
Click on the link below NOW:

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: SuzieQ on June 06, 2010, 09:13:48 PM
do we know how old GGM Sykes is
and has anyone tipped the LE about this new info
they may be interested, as there is a large wooded area and a dock
one more thing, which tape was it that, hank sr. was talking to tommy
and his wife about when they went fishing, hank seemed to have a vague
memory of the event
THEY...tom,hank,JO
thanks

Bride's Name: Dorothy Annette Stallings Squires
Bride's Birth Date: 11 Aug 1944

From: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7740.msg1148395#msg1148395






OH My,  She is just a Kid, LOL( 7 years younger than I) And how many times has she been married?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on June 07, 2010, 09:32:42 AM
do we know how old GGM Sykes is
and has anyone tipped the LE about this new info
they may be interested, as there is a large wooded area and a dock
one more thing, which tape was it that, hank sr. was talking to tommy
and his wife about when they went fishing, hank seemed to have a vague
memory of the event
THEY...tom,hank,JO
thanks

Bride's Name: Dorothy Annette Stallings Squires
Bride's Birth Date: 11 Aug 1944

From: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7740.msg1148395#msg1148395






OH My,  She is just a Kid, LOL( 7 years younger than I) And how many times has she been married?

Hi SuzieQ & Monkeys,

She has been married four times to my account.

1. Mr. Squires

2. Robert Bing Welfenberg - (St. Louis, Missouri)

3. Married once again to RBW in Ohio

4. Married to Myles Sykes in Alachua, Ohio.


Good to see you Suzie.  We still haven't totally solved the puzzled relating to Mr.Squires, who he is and where?

He must have been the smart one.  Good to see you SuzieQ.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on June 07, 2010, 06:36:11 PM

Help fellow monkeys!  This name is so familiar! 


from twitter

 Brat1950
 
Is this someone we know? Johnny Jack Lauramore

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=761235&IMG=29877



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 07, 2010, 06:55:39 PM
Yes, Marie Griffis was married to him at one time.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on June 07, 2010, 06:55:56 PM

Help fellow monkeys!  This name is so familiar! 


from twitter

 Brat1950
 
Is this someone we know? Johnny Jack Lauramore

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=761235&IMG=29877



Ok, now I've placed him! 

Johnny Jack Lauramore filed for a visitation from Marie (Nancy Marie Griffis Sheffield) with a child they had together.

And.... Marie supposedly running that drug house in the past with JJ Lauramore.

Is this JJ their son? 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 07, 2010, 06:57:41 PM
Yes, Marie Griffis was married to him at one time.

This one is Jr. ....  She I believe was married to Sr. ...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on June 07, 2010, 06:59:33 PM

from twitter...

 judy3113
 
Johnny Jack Lauramore is half brother of Johnny "Marcus" Sheffield. (Johnny Sheffield is Crystal's father, the ex-husband of Marie Griffis).


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on June 07, 2010, 07:01:44 PM
Yes, Marie Griffis was married to him at one time.

This one is Jr. ....  She I believe was married to Sr. ...

Thanks Grama! :)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on June 07, 2010, 07:07:56 PM
Well, this naughty JJ Jr. violated his probation. 

Course, it's hecka easy to violate probation in this day and age.  My bad bad boy violated his just by tossing an empty McD's bag in a random garbage can on the street. 

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=761235&IMG=29877 (http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=761235&IMG=29877)




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 07, 2010, 08:38:44 PM
Details:

UCN: 542010CF000145XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-01-21 Judge: TERRY J LARUE   
Defense Atty: SHOEMAKER, TERRY J 

Defendant
CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 
Alias


Date # Docket Description
2010-01-21 1 COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (1/13/10) 

2010-01-21 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A 

2010-01-21 1 TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE MORE THAN 14 GRAMS LESS 

2010-01-21 1 THAN 28 GRAMS 

2010-01-21 2 WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $150,000.00 

2010-01-22 3 ARREST REPORT - 1/20/2010 

2010-01-22 3 BOOKING NUMBER: 10-00276 

2010-01-22 3 BOND SET AT $150,000.00 

2010-01-22 4 ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO FLAGLER COUNTY 

2010-01-22 4 FROM PUTNAM COUNTY, FLORIDA 

2010-01-22 5 MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE 

2010-01-22 5 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS 

2010-01-22 5 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING) 

2010-01-22 6 ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF 

2010-01-22 6 SOURCE OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL (NEBBIA HEARING) 

2010-01-22 6 PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS RELEASE ON BAIL 

2010-01-22 7 FELONY WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED 

2010-02-03 8 INFORMATION - TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (14G - 28G) 

2010-02-03 9 MOTION TO CONSOLIDATE FOR TRIAL 

2010-02-05 10 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER 

2010-02-05 11 NOTICE OF DISCOVERY 

2010-02-09 12 ORDER TO CONSOLIDATE 

2010-02-10 13 STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT 

2010-02-10 14 WITNESS LIST 

2010-02-10 15 DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE 

2010-02-11 16 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-18-2010) IN JAIL 

2010-02-11 17 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (02-18-2010) 

2010-02-17 18 WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT,PLEA OF NOT GUILTY,AND DEMAND 

2010-02-17 18 FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER (FAX) 

2010-02-18 19 ORDER SETTING CASE FOR PRETRIAL 03/31/2010 

2010-02-19 20 WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT,PLEA OF NOT GUILTY,AND DEMAND 

2010-02-19 20 FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER (ORIGINAL) 

2010-02-23 21 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL 

2010-02-23 22 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010) 

2010-03-03 23 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST 

2010-03-17 24 NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY 

2010-03-31 25 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER 

2010-03-31 25 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE 

2010-03-31 25 CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010 

2010-04-07 26 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (05-13-2010) IN JAIL 

2010-04-07 27 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (05-13-2010) 

2010-04-26 28 MOTION TO REDUCE BOND 

2010-05-06 29 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:30 PM 

2010-05-06 29 MOTION TO REDUCE BOND 

2010-05-06 30 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:00 PM 

2010-05-06 30 STATE'S MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE 

2010-05-06 30 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S 

2010-05-06 30 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING) 

2010-05-07 31 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING 

2010-05-07 32 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:00 PM 

2010-05-07 32 ISSUED TO: TERRY J SHOEMAKER 

2010-05-07 33 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:30 PM 

2010-05-07 33 DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO REDUCE BOND 

2010-05-10 34 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (FAX) 

2010-05-10 35 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (ORIGINAL) 

2010-05-11 36 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING 

2010-05-13 37 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER 

2010-05-13 37 STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUNCED READY FOR TRIAL 

2010-05-13 37 CASE SET FOR JURY TRIAL 07/19/2010 

2010-05-13 38 ORDER SETTING TRIAL 07/19/2010 

2010-05-28 39 LETTER FROM ANNETTE SYKES 

2010-06-07 40 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-19-2010) 

2010-06-07 41 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-19-2010) 


What happened to the plea day court date?

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 07, 2010, 08:41:02 PM
UCN: 542010CF000144XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-01-21 Judge: TERRY J LARUE   
Defense Atty: SHOEMAKER, TERRY J 

Defendant
CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 
Alias


Date # Docket Description
2010-01-21 1 COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (1/14/10) 

2010-01-21 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A 

2010-01-21 1 TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE MORE THAN 28 GRAMS 

2010-01-21 2 WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $250,000.00 

2010-01-22 3 ARREST REPORT - 1/20/2010 

2010-01-22 3 BOOKING NUMBER: 10-00276 

2010-01-22 3 BOND SET AT $250,000.00 

2010-01-22 4 ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO FLAGLER COUNTY 

2010-01-22 4 FROM PUTNAM COUNTY, FLORIDA 

2010-01-22 5 MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE OF 

2010-01-22 5 BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS 

2010-01-22 5 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING) 

2010-01-22 6 ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE 

2010-01-22 6 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL (NEBBIA HEARING) 

2010-01-22 6 PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS RELEASE ON BAIL 

2010-01-22 7 ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO FLAGLER COUNTY 

2010-01-22 7 FROM PUTNAM COUNTY, FLORIDA 

2010-01-22 8 MOTION FOR PROTECTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE 

2010-01-22 8 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS 

2010-01-22 8 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING) 

2010-01-22 9 ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE 

2010-01-22 9 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL (NEBBIA HEARING) 

2010-01-22 9 PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS RELEASE ON BAIL 

2010-01-22 10 FELONY WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED 

2010-02-03 11 INFORMATION - TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (28G - 30KG) 

2010-02-03 12 MOTION TO CONSOLIDATE FOR TRIAL 

2010-02-05 13 NOTICE OF APPEARNCE FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER 

2010-02-05 14 NOTICE OF DISCOVERY 

2010-02-09 15 ORDER TO CONSOLIDATE 

2010-02-10 16 STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT 

2010-02-10 17 WITNESS LIST 

2010-02-10 18 DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE 

2010-02-11 19 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-18-2010) IN JAIL 

2010-02-11 20 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (02-18-2010) 

2010-02-17 21 WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT,PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND 

2010-02-17 21 FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER (FAX) 

2010-02-18 22 ORDER SETTING CASE FOR PRETRIAL 03/31/2010 

2010-02-19 23 WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENE,PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND 

2010-02-19 23 FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER (ORIGINAL) 

2010-02-23 24 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL 

2010-02-23 25 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010) 

2010-03-03 26 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST 

2010-03-17 27 NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY 

2010-03-29 28 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST 

2010-03-31 29 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER 

2010-03-31 29 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE 

2010-03-31 29 CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010 

2010-04-07 30 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (05-13-2010) IN JAIL 

2010-04-07 31 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (05-13-2010) 

2010-04-26 32 MOTION TO REDUCE BOND 

2010-05-06 33 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:30 PM 

2010-05-06 33 MOTION TO REDUCE BOND 

2010-05-06 34 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:00 PM 

2010-05-06 34 STATE'S MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE 

2010-05-06 34 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S 

2010-05-06 34 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING) 

2010-05-07 35 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (FAX)(BOND HEARING) 

2010-05-10 36 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING(FAX)(NEBBIA HEARING) 

2010-05-10 37 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (ORIGINAL)(NEBBIA) 

2010-05-10 38 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (ORIGINAL)(BOND) 

2010-05-13 39 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER 

2010-05-13 39 STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUNCED READY FOR TRIAL 

2010-05-13 39 CASE SET FOR JURY TRIAL 07/19/2010 

2010-05-13 40 ORDER SETTING TRIAL DATE 07/19/2010 AND LAST CHANCE 

2010-05-13 40 PLEA DAY 07/09/2010 

2010-05-21 41 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-19-2010) IN JAIL 

2010-05-21 42 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-19-2010) 

2010-05-28 43 LETTER FROM ANNETTE SYKES 


Hmm I see the plea day on 7/09 is for the higher amounts of grams..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 07, 2010, 09:08:49 PM
Speaking after a hearing before Circuit Judge Terry LaRue in Palatka Thursday morning, attorney Terry Shoemaker said Cummings, 26, will likely agree to plead to three of five charges. Each of those three charges carries a minimum mandatory prison sentence of 15 years. A judge could order them to be served concurrently for a total of 15 years in prison

I noticed of the 5 dockets:

542010CF000144XXAXMX    2010-01-21   28 grams
542010CF000145XXAXMX    2010-01-21   14 grams or less
542010CF000146XXAXMX      2010-01-21   14 grams
542010CF000253XXAXMX    2010-02-03   14-28 grams
542010CF000254XXAXMX    2010-02-03   28-30 grams

Two of the five charges -- involving trafficking in larger amounts of prescription drugs -- carry a minimum sentence of 25 years. Shoemaker said the tentative deal in the works involves dropping the two more severe charges.

The plea deal might be completed by July 1, he said. Cummings would agree to testify against his co-defendants and would be sentenced after those cases went to trial.

more...
http://www.ocala.com/article/20100513/articles/100519854?tc=ar


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 07, 2010, 09:32:29 PM
Speaking after a hearing before Circuit Judge Terry LaRue in Palatka Thursday morning, attorney Terry Shoemaker said Cummings, 26, will likely agree to plead to three of five charges. Each of those three charges carries a minimum mandatory prison sentence of 15 years. A judge could order them to be served concurrently for a total of 15 years in prison

I noticed of the 5 dockets:

542010CF000144XXAXMX    2010-01-21   MORE THAN 28 GRAMS
542010CF000145XXAXMX    2010-01-21   MORE THAN 14 GRAMS LESS
   THAN 28 GRAMS 
542010CF000146XXAXMX      2010-01-21   (14G-28G)
542010CF000253XXAXMX    2010-02-03   (14G-28G)
542010CF000254XXAXMX    2010-02-03   (28G-30KG)

Two of the five charges -- involving trafficking in larger amounts of prescription drugs -- carry a minimum sentence of 25 years. Shoemaker said the tentative deal in the works involves dropping the two more severe charges.

The plea deal might be completed by July 1, he said. Cummings would agree to testify against his co-defendants and would be sentenced after those cases went to trial.

more...
http://www.ocala.com/article/20100513/articles/100519854?tc=ar



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 07, 2010, 09:35:21 PM
Well, this naughty JJ Jr. violated his probation. 

Course, it's hecka easy to violate probation in this day and age.  My bad bad boy violated his just by tossing an empty McD's bag in a random garbage can on the street. 

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=761235&IMG=29877 (http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=761235&IMG=29877)




Johnny Jack ... is ONE BAD BOY....

Defendant
LAURAMORE, JOHNNY JACK JR 
Alias
LAURAMORE, JACK JOHNNIE 


Date # Docket Description
2007-07-19 1 COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. RON FRANK (6/15/07) 

2007-07-19 1 BURGLARY UNOCCUPIED STRUCTURE 

2007-07-19 1 GRAND THEFT 

2007-07-19 2 WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $1504.00 CT. I 

2007-07-19 2 BOND SET AT $1504.00 CT. II 

2007-07-20 3 ARREST REPORT - 7-19-2007 

2007-07-20 3 BOND SET AT $1504.00 CT 1 $1504.00 CT 2 

2007-07-20 4 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 

2007-07-20 4 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY 

2007-07-20 4 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND 

2007-07-20 4 $3008.00 SECURED BOND SET 

2007-07-20 5 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY 

2007-07-20 6 APPLICATION AND ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER 

2007-07-20 7 FELONY WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED 

2007-08-29 8 INFORMATION 

2007-08-29 8 BURGLARY OF A STRUCTURE OR CONVEYANCE 

2007-08-29 8 GRAND THEFT 

2007-09-04 9 ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, SWORN, ARRAIGNED, 

2007-09-04 9 PUBLIC DEFENDER APPOINTED, ENTERED PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, 

2007-09-04 9 SET FOR PRE TRIAL 10/17/2007. 

2007-09-04 10 AFFIDAVIT OF INDIGENT STATUS 

2007-09-04 10 DEFENDANT ADJUDGED INDIGENT 

2007-09-04 10 $40.00 APPLICATION FEE IMPOSED 

2007-09-04 11 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER 

2007-09-04 12 ORDER SETTING CASE FOR PRETRIAL 10/17/2007 

2007-09-12 13 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (10-17-2007) IN JAIL 

2007-09-24 14 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION 

2007-10-15 15 SCORESHEET FILED 

2007-10-17 16 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY GEORGE BECKUS 

2007-10-17 16 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO AS CHARGED TO 

2007-10-17 16 CT I - BURGLARY OF A STRUCTURE OR CONVEYANCE 

2007-10-17 16 CT II - GRAND THEFT 

2007-10-17 16 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 5 YRS DOC &/OR $5000 FINE 

2007-10-17 16 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 5 YRS DOC &/OR $5000 FINE 

2007-10-17 16 PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI WAIVED, SENTENCING - 

2007-10-17 16 DEFENDANT ADJUDGED GUILTY OF BOTH COUNTS 

2007-10-17 16 CT I - 3 YEARS PROBATION 

2007-10-17 16 88 DAYS PCJ WITH 88 DAYS CREDIT TO RUN 

2007-10-17 16 CONCURRENTLY WITH 07-1180CFMA52 

2007-10-17 16 CT II - 3 YEARS PROBATION 

2007-10-17 16 88 DAYS PCJ WITH 88 DAYS CREDIT TO RUN 

2007-10-17 16 CONCURRENTLY WITH 07-1366CFMA52 CT I 

2007-10-17 16 $370 COURT COST 

2007-10-17 16 $425.00 RESTITUTION TO CHARLES LABAR 

2007-10-17 16 SPECIAL CONDITIONS: DRUG EVALUTION 

2007-10-22 18 ORDER OF PROBATION 

2007-11-01 19 JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE - ENT MIN CIR CT BK PG 

2007-11-01 20 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE AS TO JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE 

2007-12-17 21 AFFIDAVIT: VIOLATION OF PROBATION 

2007-12-17 21 CT 1: BURGLARY OF STRUCTURE OR CONVEYANCE 

2007-12-17 21 CT 2: GRAND THEFT 

2007-12-17 22 WARRANT FOR VIOLATION OF PROBATION ISSUED 

2007-12-17 22 BOND SET AT NONE 

2008-01-07 23 REARREST REPORT - VIOLATION OF PROBATION 1-4-2008 

2008-01-07 23 BOND SET AT NONE 

2008-01-07 24 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 

2008-01-07 24 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY 

2008-01-07 24 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND 

2008-01-07 24 BOND SET AT NONE 

2008-01-07 25 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY 

2008-01-07 26 APPLICATION AND ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER 

2008-01-07 27 WARRANT FOR VIOLATION OF PROBATION RETURNED EXECUTED 

2008-01-08 28 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (01-24-2008) IN JAIL 

2008-01-24 29 AFFIDAVIT OF INDIGENT STATUS 

2008-01-24 29 DEFENDANT ADJUDGED INDIGENT 

2008-01-24 29 $40.00 APPLICATION FEE IMPOSED 

2008-01-24 30 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER 

2008-01-24 31 VOP ARR MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY GEORGE BECKUS 

2008-01-24 31 ARR ENT PLEA OF NOLO TO VOP #1,5 

2008-01-24 31 PLEA ACCEPTED, SENTENCED AS FOLLOWS: 

2008-01-24 31 DEFENDANT ADJUDGED GUILTY OF VOP 

2008-01-24 31 PROBATION CONVERTED TO DRUG OFFENDER PROBATION 

2008-01-24 31 ALL TERMS AND CONDITIONS CARRIED OVER 

2008-01-24 32 FINGERPRINTS OF DEFENDANT 

2008-01-24 33 ORDER OF REVOCATION OF PROBATION 

2008-06-19 34 AFFIDAVIT: VIOLATION OF DRUG OFFENDER PROBATION 

2008-06-19 34 BURGLARY OF A STRUCTURE OR CONVEYANCE 

2008-06-19 34 GRAND THEFT 

2008-06-19 35 WARRANT FOR VIOLATION OF PROBATION ISSUED 

2008-06-19 35 BOND SET AT NO BOND 

2008-09-09 36 REARREST REPORT - VIOLATION OF PROBATION 

2008-09-09 36 ARREST DATE:09/08/2008 

2008-09-09 37 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 

2008-09-09 37 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY 

2008-09-09 37 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND 

2008-09-09 37 BOND SET AT NO BOND 

2008-09-09 38 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY 

2008-09-09 39 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING 

2008-09-09 40 WARRANT FOR VIOLATION OF PROBATION RETURNED EXECUTED 

2008-09-18 41 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (10-17-2008) IN JAIL 

2008-10-17 42 AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS 

2008-10-17 43 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER 

2008-10-17 44 VOP ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: DEFT PRES, P D APPOINTED 

2008-10-17 44 ARRAIGNED,ENTERED PLEA OF NOLO TO VOP CONDITIONS 

2008-10-17 44 #1, 15A, AND 17C 

2008-10-17 44 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 5 YRS DOC &/OR $5000 FINE 

2008-10-17 44 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 5 YRS DOC &/OR $5000 FINE 

2008-10-17 44 PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI WAIVED, SENTENCING - 

2008-10-17 44 DEFENDANT ADJUDGED GUILTY OF VOP 

2008-10-17 44 COURT ORDERED PROBATION REVOKED 

2008-10-17 44 9 MONTHS PCJ WITH 149 DAYS CREDIT 

2008-10-17 44 CT II CONCURRENT WITH CT I 

2008-10-17 44 ALL COSTS ENTERED AS A CIVIL LIEN 

2008-10-17 45 ORDER OF REVOCATION OF DRUG OFFENDER PROBATION 

2008-10-21 46 DEFENDANT'S REMAINING MONETARY OBLIGATIONS PER 

2008-11-03 47 JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE - INST # 

2008-11-03 48 CHARGES, COSTS, AND FEES ASSOCIATED WITH SENTENCE 

2008-11-03 48 INST #200854661819 

2008-11-03 49 RESTITUTION ORDER - $425.00 TO CHARLES LABAR 

2008-11-03 49 INST #200854661823 

2008-11-04 50 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE AS TO JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE 

2008-12-05 51 DEFENDANTS MOTION FOR REDUCTION OR MODIFICATION 

2008-12-05 51 OF SENTENCE 

2008-12-18 52 ORDER DENYING MOTION FOR REDUCTION OR MODIFICATION OF 

2008-12-18 52 SENTENCE 

JOHNNY JACK LAURAMORE
SATSUMA, FL
Booking Date & Time: 12/18/2009 12:42:46 AM - Booking#: 09-05169
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 9/13/1984 - RACE: W - SEX: M


Charges Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
948.06- PROB VIOLATION N N $504.00
948.06- PROB VIOLATION N N $504.00
$1,008.00



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 08, 2010, 06:43:29 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/23827387/detail.html
Croslin To Appear At Pre-Trial Hearing
Ronald Cummings' Ex-Wife Last Person To See Missing Girl Haleigh

POSTED: 6:27 am EDT June 8, 2010
UPDATED: 6:37 am EDT June 8, 2010
WINTER PARK, Fla. --
One of the key figures in a local missing child case will head to court Tuesday for a pre-trial hearing on drug trafficking charges.

Misty Croslin was the last known person to see Haleigh Cummings before she disappeared last year.

She is accused of trafficking prescription drugs.

Croslin's trial date is set for Aug. 23.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 08, 2010, 03:14:41 PM
Thanks trim for the article on MC's pretrial!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 08, 2010, 03:17:15 PM
Misty Croslin's drug trials set for same day St. Augustine and Palatka

By Cindy Swirko
Staff writer

Published: Tuesday, June 8, 2010 at 2:17 p.m.
Last Modified: Tuesday, June 8, 2010 at 2:17 p.m.

ST. AUGUSTINE - A judge in St. Johns County scheduled Misty Croslin's trial on a drug trafficking charge for Aug. 23 - the same date as her drug trial in Putnam County.

Croslin, 18, the woman who was baby-sitting 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings at their Satsuma home in February 2009 when the girl was reported missing, faces seven counts in Putnam County. Those charges, like the charge in St. Johns County, resulted from an undercover operation.

The Patatka trial date was set there on Thursday, June 3.

During the hearing Tuesday in St. Augustine, neither defense attorney Robert Fields nor the prosecutor mentioned the apparent scheduling conflict to Circuit Judge Wendy Berger.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100608/ARTICLES/100609483/1002


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 08, 2010, 03:30:28 PM
Heart,thank you for the update!Today has been very challenging!

Prayers for Haleigh :)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 08, 2010, 04:06:00 PM
Defendant Attorneys
CROSLIN, MISTY JANETTE FIELDS, ROBERT M
CROSLIN CUMMINGS, MISTY JANETTE (Alias)
CUMMINGS, MISTY JANETTE (Alias)
Charges: Disposition:
TRAFFICKING IN OXYCODONE (28 G - 30 KG) (893.135 1c1c) (N/A)
Case Number Party Type Charge Case Status Disposition Fees Due Next Court Event
Date Event Judge Location Result
8/23/2010 9:00:00 AM FELONY HEARING BERGER, WENDY W Courtroom 328
8/17/2010 9:00:00 AM FELONY DOCKET CALL BERGER, WENDY W Courtroom 328
6/8/2010 1:30:00 PM FELONY PRETRIAL BERGER, WENDY W Courtroom 328 CONTINUED
4/6/2010 1:30:00 PM FELONY PRETRIAL BERGER, WENDY W Courtroom 328 CONTINUED
3/8/2010 1:30:00 PM FELONY ARRAIGNMENT BERGER, WENDY W Courtroom 328 PLEA FILED


http://doris.clk.co.st-johns.fl.us/c...&caseid=192668


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 08, 2010, 04:10:30 PM
Misty Cummings Quiet In Pretrial Hearing
Ex-Stepmom Of Missing Girl Facing 8 Drug Trafficking Charges

POSTED: Tuesday, June 8, 2010
UPDATED: 3:59 pm EDT June 8, 2010

ST. JOHNS COUNTY, Fla. -- Misty Cummings didn't say anything at all Tuesday when she appeared in a St. Johns County courtroom, where she's facing one of eight drug trafficking charges.

The other seven charges are in Putnam County.

Cummings is slated to stand trail in Palatka on all the charges at the end of August. That is, unless she makes a plea deal by the Aug. 16 deadline.

"I think the drug charges pretty much was a set up," Cummings' father, Hank Croslin Sr., told Channel 4 last week. "Misty or (Hank Croslin Jr.) wasn't drug traffickers. They just was middlemen runners. (Police) have not got none of the drug dealers out there. They just went after Misty and (Hank). It was nothing about the drugs. It was about (missing 6-year-old) Haleigh (Cummings)."

Croslin Sr. said his daughter isn't guilty of these charges, even though investigators released undercover surveillance video they said proves Cummings and her ex-husband, Ronald Cummings, and her brother, Croslin Jr., did, in fact, sell drugs.

Croslin Sr. said the case boils down to the Haleigh homicide investigation, and that investigators are just trying to get information out of Misty Cummings about what could've happened to the Satsuma girl who disappeared in February 2009. Investigators said Misty Cummings was the last person to see Haleigh.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/23831637/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 08, 2010, 04:15:17 PM
(http://www.firstcoastnews.com/genthumb.ashx?e=3&h=263&w=350&i=/assetpool/images/100608032524_060810_misty.jpg)

Putnam County Judge Sets Trial Date for Misty Croslin on Drug Charges


PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- The person considered a central figure in the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings was in court this morning learning when her trial on drug charges will go before a jury.

Misty Croslin was arrested in January on drug charges.

Today in court, Putnam County Court Judge Wendy Berger asked if the prosecution had any offers on the table for her; they do not.

Croslin's trial is now set for Aug. 23. She faces six counts of trafficking in prescription medication.

In February, 2009, Croslin was babysitting her then-boyfriend Ronald Cummings' children, including Haleigh. Croslin said she put the kids to bed, and when she woke up, Haleigh was gone.

Haleigh, 5-years-old at the time, hasn't been seen since.

Investigators have maintained from the beginning that while she may not be a suspect, Croslin knows more than she's letting on about what happened that night.

The search has continued ever since then, but reintensified in April after a tip led investigators to a boat ramp near Haleigh's home in Satsuma. The tip turned up nothing.

Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy has told Haleigh's family that she is most likely dead, but the search will continue.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=157135&catid=3


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 08, 2010, 05:04:13 PM
gngr~snap  posted:

 Has anyone mentioned this?

IMO LINDSY has filed for divorce because as long as she is married to ToC she cannot get assistance from the state.

I realize ToC has not been convicted of anything yet but if he is... it sounds like the entire family(wife and kids) are disqualified because of him. MOO

Some categories of people are not eligible for food stamps regardless of income or need. Non-citizens without a qualified status and those convicted of drug trafficking are not eligible for food stamp benefits.

Disqualifiers:
Applicants who have been convicted of drug trafficking or have a felony warrant out against them are not eligible for Florida food stamps.

Ineligibility Reasons:

People who are convicted of drug trafficking, who are running away from a felony warrant, who break Food Stamp Program rules on purpose, who are noncitizens without a qualified status, and some students in colleges or universities are not eligible for food stamp benefits.

See Page 2: FOOD STAMPS and TEMPORARY CASH ASSISTANCEhttp://www.hrsa.gov/homeless/pa_mate...assist_ess.pdf

http://www.dcf.state.fl.us/programs/...odstamps.shtml


could be the reason why IMO she'd want a divorce... MOO

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5243801&postcount=235


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 08, 2010, 06:15:32 PM
Haleigh Cummings Update: Misty Croslin Back in Court Today

Posted on June 8th, 2010
by Jan Barrett in Society and Culture, crime


The last known person to see little Haleigh Cummings, who is the Florida girl that has been missing since February 10, 2009, was the then babysitter, 17 year old Misty Croslin. Police claim she is not actually considered as a suspect but they definitely think she holds the key to the puzzle they need to solve this crime.

Misty along with her now ex-husband, Ronald Cummings, Misty’s brother, Tommy Croslin, Ronald’s 18 year old cousin, Hope Sykes and Donna Brock were all arrested during an undercover drug bust in Florida in January. Misty is being charged with 8 counts of drug trafficking in Putnam County and St. John’s County.

Hope Sykes plead a no contest plea and everyone was in total shock when the judge sentenced her to 15 years in prison. Now brother, Tommy Croslin has pled no contest and he will receive his sentence next month sometimes. I am sorry to say but it wouldn’t shock me if Tommy is sentenced a bit more than just the three years he keeps saying he expects to serve.

Misty’s court date was set in Putnam County for August 23, 2010 which coincidentally is the same date that a judge set today for her to appear before a jury trial in St. John’s County as well.  Gainesville.com is reporting that neither the defense attorney, Robert Fields not the prosecutor bothered to mention to the judge, Circuit Court Judge Wendy Berger, that the two dates are the same. Fields claims he is waiting on evidence analysis from the Department of Law Enforcement and said he does expect to later ask for a change in the trial date in St. John’s County.

Hank Croslin Sr. is standing by his daughter saying she is not guilty of these charges despite the released surveillance video where she is clearly seen making the deal along with Ronald, Tommy, Hope and Donna Brock.

Hank says all this is because of the Haleigh Cummings investigation. He claims the police are just trying to get more information from Misty about what could have possibly happened to Haleigh when she disappeared that night.

Although I do agree that that is probably why the drug deal came out, I think it will be hard to argue that she is innocent in what she is currently being charged for. It has to be really hard for Hank Sr. to accept this though. I know if it were my two kids involved in this I would have lost my mind by now.

I do hope that all of this has been done for nothing though. I pray that after all these months being behind bars for the drug charges that one of those arrested will finally open up and for once in their life tell the truth here.

I don’t know who is guilty here but I still stick with my theory that NO ONE should be cleared in this until the guilty party is found. No one should be eliminated until we get the truth. I know everyone doesn’t agree with me but I seriously think this. In my eyes no one has been cleared completely yet. I don’t think anyone involved in this case should be able to sit back and relax about not being investigated. I think they all should be drilled over and over again with questions.

Let’s pray we will have an answer soon. I worry sometimes that no one will ever open up about what happened to Haleigh and her case will go unsolved and then the person responsible will go unpunished. Haleigh would never receive the justice she rightfully deserves if that happens and that is so unfair to this adorable little girl. If this happens I do hope the one responsible is cursed with bad luck for the rest of their life. I hope they will be haunted by the memory of what they have done every day that they live. I hope when they wake up in the mornings that Haleigh’s face is the first thing they think about and the last thing they think about when they go to sleep at night. I hope they will suffer from losing their own sanity after what they have done to this child.

God be with you Haleigh Cummings. They say you are no longer with us on this earth but I still can’t let go of that gut feeling that you are still alive out there somewhere. No one knows for sure if you are or not though. If they say it as a fact then that someone must know more about what happened than they are saying and they should speak up about what they know. I do pray that someone will one day soon.

Jan Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/124684


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on June 08, 2010, 09:02:22 PM
Misty Croslin's drug trials set for same day St. Augustine and Palatka

By Cindy Swirko
Staff writer

Published: Tuesday, June 8, 2010 at 2:17 p.m.
Last Modified: Tuesday, June 8, 2010 at 2:17 p.m.

ST. AUGUSTINE - A judge in St. Johns County scheduled Misty Croslin's trial on a drug trafficking charge for Aug. 23 - the same date as her drug trial in Putnam County.

Croslin, 18, the woman who was baby-sitting 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings at their Satsuma home in February 2009 when the girl was reported missing, faces seven counts in Putnam County. Those charges, like the charge in St. Johns County, resulted from an undercover operation.

The Patatka trial date was set there on Thursday, June 3.

During the hearing Tuesday in St. Augustine, neither defense attorney Robert Fields nor the prosecutor mentioned the apparent scheduling conflict to Circuit Judge Wendy Berger.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100608/ARTICLES/100609483/1002
quick question slash thought when you take the stand or offer up info slash mention it yourself you are then allowed to be questioned on the info... like if you were on trial for something on the stand and you mention something about your criminal past you are then liable for all questions asked of such said criminal past even if a judge is not allowing the other case to come iinto play... did they not mention it because if they did then the prosecutor would be able to bring up the other pending trial from case a in case b? hope i explained that right and my motive theory could be off but i don't see why else they wouldn't have mentioned it.. it is very easy to reschedule a trial when you validate why you need to... i just don't get why they wouldn't have done that


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on June 08, 2010, 09:27:16 PM
gngr~snap  posted:

 Has anyone mentioned this?

IMO LINDSY has filed for divorce because as long as she is married to ToC she cannot get assistance from the state.

I realize ToC has not been convicted of anything yet but if he is... it sounds like the entire family(wife and kids) are disqualified because of him. MOO

Some categories of people are not eligible for food stamps regardless of income or need. Non-citizens without a qualified status and those convicted of drug trafficking are not eligible for food stamp benefits.

Disqualifiers:
Applicants who have been convicted of drug trafficking or have a felony warrant out against them are not eligible for Florida food stamps.

Ineligibility Reasons:

People who are convicted of drug trafficking, who are running away from a felony warrant, who break Food Stamp Program rules on purpose, who are noncitizens without a qualified status, and some students in colleges or universities are not eligible for food stamp benefits.

See Page 2: FOOD STAMPS and TEMPORARY CASH ASSISTANCEhttp://www.hrsa.gov/homeless/pa_mate...assist_ess.pdf

http://www.dcf.state.fl.us/programs/...odstamps.shtml


could be the reason why IMO she'd want a divorce... MOO

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5243801&postcount=235
here is my take on that if and i mean if tommy was even on the foodstamps to begin with then that could possibly be true..if he was getting unemployment their food money would not have been much since it was his family that were pros at robbing the system and they liked to take family field trips to court etc they probably did fam trips to the welfare ofc also... the state does not go after baby daddy's for food stamps only cash assistance also it is very likely that welfare was not even aware he was in jail... and if tommy was the head of house hold on food stamps then even if they did know and kick him off they would still give lindsy and kids food stamps.... food stamps and cash assistance are 2 totally diff things... food stamps are very easy to get and keep and not have to ever pay back there are virtually no situations other then too much income that woulg get lindsy and kids denied food stamps... as far as cash assistance you might be on to something i knew a real scumbag that divorced her husb strictly for welfare money and you do have to show welfare that you at least initiated the divorce process (which is exactly what she did only initiated and they will usually pay for the divorce for you) from the deniable other spouse (like too much income drugs or any other reason listed above) if you are legally full blown married to someone then they would have to be on your cash assistance application/case file and if that person was deniable then you are to... food stamps do not work this way at all you could walk in and say your man went out for a pack of butts and never came back and they would believe you
food stamps is the snap program federal check out the eligibilities on this page and you will see lindsy is prob getting $668 a month and will most likely remain so unless she gets at least a $14hr job and works 40 hours a week...
http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/applicant_recipients/eligibility.htm


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 08, 2010, 09:45:19 PM
Yes, Marie Griffis was married to him at one time.

This one is Jr. ....  She I believe was married to Sr. ...

Thanks Grama! :)


Most welcome Wyks ... just returning a favor that I am sure you have responded to many requests before.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on June 08, 2010, 10:07:23 PM
gngr~snap  posted:

 Has anyone mentioned this?

IMO LINDSY has filed for divorce because as long as she is married to ToC she cannot get assistance from the state.

I realize ToC has not been convicted of anything yet but if he is... it sounds like the entire family(wife and kids) are disqualified because of him. MOO

Some categories of people are not eligible for food stamps regardless of income or need. Non-citizens without a qualified status and those convicted of drug trafficking are not eligible for food stamp benefits.

Disqualifiers:
Applicants who have been convicted of drug trafficking or have a felony warrant out against them are not eligible for Florida food stamps.

Ineligibility Reasons:

People who are convicted of drug trafficking, who are running away from a felony warrant, who break Food Stamp Program rules on purpose, who are noncitizens without a qualified status, and some students in colleges or universities are not eligible for food stamp benefits.

See Page 2: FOOD STAMPS and TEMPORARY CASH ASSISTANCEhttp://www.hrsa.gov/homeless/pa_mate...assist_ess.pdf

http://www.dcf.state.fl.us/programs/...odstamps.shtml


could be the reason why IMO she'd want a divorce... MOO

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5243801&postcount=235

Very possible, IMO, Heart!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: flamom on June 09, 2010, 08:06:05 AM
Thank you my dear Monkey friends for the updates! I have been spending any of my free time..lol.. trying to keep up with the Natalee board...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 09, 2010, 11:26:33 AM
Quote from: klaasend on June 09, 2010, 09:52:04 AM
In an ongoing attempt to solve some of these server problems I'm disabling attachments.  That means you can't upload photos from your PC they will have to be in something like photobucket. 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on June 09, 2010, 04:38:19 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/video/23837549/index.html

_________________________________________________________________________________________________


Croslin gets August trial date
Media circus surrounds brief appearance in court
Posted: June 9, 2010 - 12:07

http://staugustine.com/news/local-news/2010-06-09/croslin-gets-august-trial-date


By RICHARD PRIOR

Elbow room was at a premium in the St. Johns County Circuit courtroom Tuesday as extra reporters and television crews jockeyed for the little space available to get a clear look at just one of the 51 defendants listed on the afternoon docket.

But it all turned out to be a brief, routine hearing for Misty Janette Croslin, who is now tentatively scheduled to go to trial in August on one count of trafficking in prescription medications -- oxycodone and hydrocodone.

She faces 25 years in prison if she pleads to the offense or is found guilty at trial.

Croslin faces an additional seven trafficking cases in Palatka.

Circuit Judge Terry LaRue told her Thursday that Aug. 16 is her "last-chance plea date" to work out a deal with prosecutors.

After that, she is open to the potential of minimum mandatory sentences that could total decades in prison.

The 18-year-old Croslin appeared pale and lifeless Tuesday as she sat in front of Circuit Judge Wendy W. Berger's bench, waiting for court to begin. She has gained a little weight, but what color she did have has faded since she and four others were arrested Jan. 20 and charged with trafficking.

She barely acknowledged the bank of video and still cameras lined up off her ..snip



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 09, 2010, 05:16:22 PM
Don't know if this little one was kin to Annette Sykes or not, checking to see if I can find anything.

Toddler run over in Putnam County driveway

A Putnam County toddler was seriously injured Tuesday evening when she was crushed by a car while playing in the driveway of her home.

The child, 2-year-old Kira Sykes, had crawled under a parked car at her house in the 100 block of Creymer Lane in Crescent City with the family dog shortly before 5 p.m., according to a Florida Highway Patrol news release. Robert Thornton, 24, of Hawthorne, was attempting to move the car and didn't see Sykes on the ground.

The dog scurried out from the beneath the vehicle when Thornton turned it on, but Sykes wasn't quick enough. The right rear tire rolled over her midsection. She was taken to Shands Gainesville.

Matt Coleman

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-06-08/story/law-disorder-woman-mid-20s-found-dead


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 09, 2010, 06:28:26 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/video/23837549/index.html

_________________________________________________________________________________________________


Croslin gets August trial date
Media circus surrounds brief appearance in court
Posted: June 9, 2010 - 12:07

http://staugustine.com/news/local-news/2010-06-09/croslin-gets-august-trial-date


By RICHARD PRIOR

Elbow room was at a premium in the St. Johns County Circuit courtroom Tuesday as extra reporters and television crews jockeyed for the little space available to get a clear look at just one of the 51 defendants listed on the afternoon docket.

But it all turned out to be a brief, routine hearing for Misty Janette Croslin, who is now tentatively scheduled to go to trial in August on one count of trafficking in prescription medications -- oxycodone and hydrocodone.

She faces 25 years in prison if she pleads to the offense or is found guilty at trial.

Croslin faces an additional seven trafficking cases in Palatka.

Circuit Judge Terry LaRue told her Thursday that Aug. 16 is her "last-chance plea date" to work out a deal with prosecutors.

After that, she is open to the potential of minimum mandatory sentences that could total decades in prison.

The 18-year-old Croslin appeared pale and lifeless Tuesday as she sat in front of Circuit Judge Wendy W. Berger's bench, waiting for court to begin. She has gained a little weight, but what color she did have has faded since she and four others were arrested Jan. 20 and charged with trafficking.

She barely acknowledged the bank of video and still cameras lined up off her ..snip



Misty looks pretty bad in that news4jax video.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: cw618 on June 09, 2010, 07:56:00 PM
Quote from: klaasend on June 09, 2010, 09:52:04 AM
In an ongoing attempt to solve some of these server problems I'm disabling attachments.  That means you can't upload photos from your PC they will have to be in something like photobucket. 



server upgrade? dealt with these guys for yrs never been a prob
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Category/category_tlc.asp?CatId=30&name=Servers


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 09, 2010, 08:01:30 PM
It's all Joran van der Sloot's fault ...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 09, 2010, 08:37:22 PM
GREGORY  LEWIS  PAGE
Palatka ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/14/2010 7:34:56 AM  - Booking#: 10-02072
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 8/4/1980 -  RACE: B  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
893.13-6a   MARIJUANA-POSSESS POSSESS MARIJUANA OVER 20 GRAMS   F   T    $1,004.00    6/4/2010 4:01:00 PM
893.135-1c1   DRUGS-TRAFFIC 4 GRAMS LESS 30 KG OTHER CNTRL SUBST   F   F    $0.00    
893.13-1a1   SYNTH NARCOTIC-POSSESS WIT SELL MFG OR DELIVER SCHEDULE I OR II   F   S    $2,504.00    6/4/2010 4:00:48 PM
                $3,508.00    

______________________________________________________________________
UCN: 542010CF001125XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-05-18   Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM    
Defense Atty: CULBERT, BRUCE P

Defendant
PAGE, GREGORY LEWIS JR
Alias

Date   #   Docket Description
2010-05-18   1   ARREST REPORT - PPD OFF/EGAN (ARREST 5/14/10)
2010-05-18   1   BOOKING NUMBER: 10-2072
2010-05-18   1   POSSESSION OF CANNABIS IN EXCESS OF 20 GRAMS
2010-05-18   1   TRAFFICKING OF HYDROCODONE
2010-05-18   1   POSSESSION OF SCHEDULE II CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE WITH
2010-05-18   1   INTENT TO SELL
2010-05-18   1   POSSESSION OF HYDROCODON WITH INTENT TO SELL
2010-05-18   2   DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 5/15/10
2010-05-18   2   ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING
2010-05-18   2   SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
2010-05-18   2   $1004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. I
2010-05-18   2   NO BOND AS TO CT. II
2010-05-18   2   $2504.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. III
2010-05-18   3   AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS
2010-05-18   4   ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER AT FIRST APP HEARING
2010-05-27   5   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE FILED BY: BRUCE CULBERT
2010-05-27   6   MOTION FOR STATEMENT OF PARTICULARS
2010-05-27   7   NOTICE OF DISCOVERY
2010-05-27   10   MOTION FOR REDUCTION OF BOND
2010-06-02   8   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-01-2010) IN JAIL
2010-06-02   9   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-01-2010)
2010-06-02   11   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 06/18/2010 AT 02:00 PM
2010-06-04   12   INFORMATION (TRAFFICKING IN ROXICODONE - 28G TO
2010-06-04   12   30 KG)
2010-06-04   13   ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION TO CTS I & III ONLY


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on June 10, 2010, 09:18:39 AM
http://www.news4jax.com/video/23837549/index.html

_________________________________________________________________________________________________


Croslin gets August trial date
Media circus surrounds brief appearance in court
Posted: June 9, 2010 - 12:07

http://staugustine.com/news/local-news/2010-06-09/croslin-gets-august-trial-date


By RICHARD PRIOR

Elbow room was at a premium in the St. Johns County Circuit courtroom Tuesday as extra reporters and television crews jockeyed for the little space available to get a clear look at just one of the 51 defendants listed on the afternoon docket.

But it all turned out to be a brief, routine hearing for Misty Janette Croslin, who is now tentatively scheduled to go to trial in August on one count of trafficking in prescription medications -- oxycodone and hydrocodone.

She faces 25 years in prison if she pleads to the offense or is found guilty at trial.

Croslin faces an additional seven trafficking cases in Palatka.

Circuit Judge Terry LaRue told her Thursday that Aug. 16 is her "last-chance plea date" to work out a deal with prosecutors.

After that, she is open to the potential of minimum mandatory sentences that could total decades in prison.

The 18-year-old Croslin appeared pale and lifeless Tuesday as she sat in front of Circuit Judge Wendy W. Berger's bench, waiting for court to begin. She has gained a little weight, but what color she did have has faded since she and four others were arrested Jan. 20 and charged with trafficking.

She barely acknowledged the bank of video and still cameras lined up off her ..snip



Misty looks pretty bad in that news4jax video.


She must have gotten her Salt shaker, she is puffy.


Heart,

Thanks for the Blogger update, what is LE waiting on for the other arrests?  :0 /


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on June 10, 2010, 12:27:53 PM
So sad for the little girl Kira Sykes, who was run over in her driveway in Crescent City. 

I keep thinking that we've heard of someone in one of these families with a little one named Kira.  Have checked thru info we have and haven't come up with that name, but 'Kira' still sounds so familiar for some reason.  Am wondering if this little one is a Sykes cousin etc?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on June 10, 2010, 12:30:10 PM
Wasn't there a car accident several months ago, involving a Sykes child?   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 10, 2010, 04:32:35 PM
Wasn't there a car accident several months ago, involving a Sykes child?   

Hi Wyks, there was another little one ran over a few months ago in Palatka, but to my knowledge was not related to the Sykes or Cummings.

Crawling Baby Dies After Being Run Over
http://www.wesh.com/news/23034900/detail.html
Caleb Cronk, 13 months


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 10, 2010, 05:09:47 PM
So sad for the little girl Kira Sykes, who was run over in her driveway in Crescent City. 

I keep thinking that we've heard of someone in one of these families with a little one named Kira.  Have checked thru info we have and haven't come up with that name, but 'Kira' still sounds so familiar for some reason.  Am wondering if this little one is a Sykes cousin etc?

For some reason I have not been able to find the name of the street (Creymer Lane) in the article anywhere Google maps or the white pages.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 10, 2010, 08:00:01 PM
Haliegh Cummings & Caylee Anthony, The Mob, And WWII Mia’s - BNN Radio Schedule
Posted on June 10th, 2010
by Simon Barrett in All News, Society and Culture, crime

On Sunday at 3pm central we will be running our regular program concerning the Haleigh Cummings and Caylee Anthony cases. These two cases are so frustrating. there seems to be no way to unlock them. I had a long conversation with an author today, he is in no way connected or following these cases. But, he has much to say about the press and how they jump on dysfunction, particularly when it is a sports or movie personae.

He is correct, OJ Simpson, Tiger Woods, Michael Jackson, to name but a few. The author made a valid point, they all have (or had) more money than they could find ways to spend it. This clan is different. They all leech of each other. The regular panel will be in place, and the link is here.

Simon Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/124692


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on June 10, 2010, 08:20:46 PM
Wasn't there a car accident several months ago, involving a Sykes child?   

Hi Wyks, there was another little one ran over a few months ago in Palatka, but to my knowledge was not related to the Sykes or Cummings.

Crawling Baby Dies After Being Run Over
http://www.wesh.com/news/23034900/detail.html
Caleb Cronk, 13 months

That must be the one I was thinking of, poor lil thing.  I dunno why I thought it was a Sykes child or of a cousin in that family.   And surely there wasn't another accident involving a child in those parts.  Thanks for the info!
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on June 10, 2010, 08:22:51 PM
So sad for the little girl Kira Sykes, who was run over in her driveway in Crescent City. 

I keep thinking that we've heard of someone in one of these families with a little one named Kira.  Have checked thru info we have and haven't come up with that name, but 'Kira' still sounds so familiar for some reason.  Am wondering if this little one is a Sykes cousin etc?

For some reason I have not been able to find the name of the street (Creymer Lane) in the article anywhere Google maps or the white pages.

Very odd!  Well since the home is in the 100 block of Creymer Lane, could it be a street too new for the maps yet?  Or perhaps on the very outskirts of town or something.  Heck I dunno.  I just looked at a Crescent City map online and didn't find it anywhere either. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 10, 2010, 10:04:16 PM
So sad for the little girl Kira Sykes, who was run over in her driveway in Crescent City. 

I keep thinking that we've heard of someone in one of these families with a little one named Kira.  Have checked thru info we have and haven't come up with that name, but 'Kira' still sounds so familiar for some reason.  Am wondering if this little one is a Sykes cousin etc?

For some reason I have not been able to find the name of the street (Creymer Lane) in the article anywhere Google maps or the white pages.

Very odd!  Well since the home is in the 100 block of Creymer Lane, could it be a street too new for the maps yet?  Or perhaps on the very outskirts of town or something.  Heck I dunno.  I just looked at a Crescent City map online and didn't find it anywhere either. 


Normally you can just enter the name of the street and state in the reverse address look-up in the white pages and you get responses. Still doing it that way I came up empty handed.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on June 11, 2010, 12:31:59 AM
Haliegh Cummings & Caylee Anthony, The Mob, And WWII Mia’s - BNN Radio Schedule
Posted on June 10th, 2010
by Simon Barrett in All News, Society and Culture, crime

On Sunday at 3pm central we will be running our regular program concerning the Haleigh Cummings and Caylee Anthony cases. These two cases are so frustrating. there seems to be no way to unlock them. I had a long conversation with an author today, he is in no way connected or following these cases. But, he has much to say about the press and how they jump on dysfunction, particularly when it is a sports or movie personae.

He is correct, OJ Simpson, Tiger Woods, Michael Jackson, to name but a few. The author made a valid point, they all have (or had) more money than they could find ways to spend it. This clan is different. They all leech of each other. The regular panel will be in place, and the link is here.

Simon Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/124692

They even misspelled her name in the headline.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: higherhopes on June 11, 2010, 04:31:40 PM
I cant believe we have heard nothing new on the HaLeigh case, I so want this to get resolved and for HaLeigh to be brought back to her family for closure, this is all so messed up and even with Misty and Ronald in jail nothing has been found out yet. This poor baby seems to have been thrown away and lost in the mix of all these messed up people and what they wnt and dont want. Where's HaLeigj? thats all I want to know, nothing else.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 11, 2010, 06:24:11 PM
UCN: 542010CF000143XXAXMX
File Date: 01/21/2010
Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Case Status: APPEAL
Defense Atty: BEECHING, MARCELLA ANN
Case File Location: CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant: SYKES, HOPE A
Alias: No Alias Records

Date # Docket Description
01/21/2010 1 COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (1/13/10)

01/21/2010 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A

01/21/2010 1 TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE MORE THAN 14 GRAMS LESS

01/21/2010 1 THAN 28 GRAMS

01/21/2010 2 WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $150.000.00

01/22/2010 3 ARREST REPORT: TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (1/20/10)

01/22/2010 4 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG

01/22/2010 4 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING

01/22/2010 4 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND

01/22/2010 4 $150,000.00 SECURED BOND SET

01/22/2010 5 AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS

01/22/2010 6 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER

01/22/2010 7 MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE OF

01/22/2010 7 BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S

01/22/2010 7 RELEASE ON BAIL ("NEBBIA HEARING")

01/22/2010 8 ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE

01/22/2010 8 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL ("NEBBIA HEARING")

01/22/2010 8 PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S RELEASE ON BAIL

01/22/2010 9 WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED

02/03/2010 10 INFORMATION - TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (14G-28G)

02/03/2010 11 MOTION TO TRANSFER TO DIVISION 52

02/03/2010 12 ORDER OF TRANSFER TO DIVISION 52

02/03/2010 13 MOTION TO CONSOLIDATE FOR TRIAL

02/08/2010 14 MOTION TO WITHDRAW AND APPOINT REGIONAL CONFLICT

02/08/2010 14 COUNSEL

02/09/2010 15 ORDER TO CONSOLIDATE

02/10/2010 16 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-18-2010) IN JAIL

02/18/2010 17 ARR MINEFT PRES,ADJ INS P D APPT (MARCELLA BEECHING)

02/18/2010 17 ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY - PRE TRIAL SET 03/31/2010

02/18/2010 17 CONFLICT COUNSEL APPOINTED MARCELLA BEECHING

02/18/2010 18 AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS

02/18/2010 19 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER

02/18/2010 20 ORDER SETTING CASE FOR PRETRIAL 03/31/2010

02/18/2010 21 APPOINTING REGIONAL CONFLCIT COUNSEL

02/19/2010 21 ORDER ALLOWING PUBLIC DEFENDER TO WITHDRAW AND

02/22/2010 22 MOTION TO WITHDRAW

03/01/2010 23 STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT

03/01/2010 24 WITNESS LIST

03/01/2010 25 DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE

03/01/2010 26 ORDER ALLOWING THE OFFICE OF CRIMINAL CONFLICT AND

03/01/2010 26 CIVIL REGIONAL COUNSEL WITHDRAW

03/01/2010 27 CERTIFICATION OF CONFLICT BY OFFICE OF REGIONAL

03/01/2010 27 CRIMINAL AND CIVIL CONFLICT, 5TH DISTRICT

03/02/2010 28 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE, WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT

03/02/2010 28 ENTRY OF PLEA, AND REQUEST FOR JURY TRIL

03/02/2010 29 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE BY: MARCELLA BEECHING

03/02/2010 30 RECIPROCAL WITNESS LIST

03/02/2010 31 DISCOVERY DEMAND

03/03/2010 32 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)

03/11/2010 33 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST

03/31/2010 34 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY MARCELLA BEECHING

03/31/2010 34 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO A/C TO THE OFFENSE OF

03/31/2010 34 TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE 14-28 GRAMS

03/31/2010 34 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 30 YRS DOC &/OR $15,000 FINE

03/31/2010 34 PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI WAIVED, SENTENCING SET 04/27/2010

04/07/2010 35 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (04-27-2010) IN JAIL

04/07/2010 36 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (04-27-2010)

04/19/2010 37 DEFENSE WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED:

04/19/2010 37 RENEA WHITMORE

04/21/2010 38 DEFENSE WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED:

04/21/2010 38 RONALD CUMMINGS

04/27/2010 39 SCORESHEET FILED

04/27/2010 40 SENTENCING MINUTESEFT PRES, ATT BY MARCELLA BEECHING

04/27/2010 40 ADJUDGED GUILTY OF TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE

04/27/2010 40 14-28 GRAMS

04/27/2010 40 15 YEARS DOC WITH 97 DAYS CREDIT - MINIMUM MANDATORY

04/27/2010 40 $395 COURT COSTS

04/27/2010 40 $50 PUBLIC DEFENDER APPLICATION FEE

04/27/2010 40 $100 PUBLIC DEFENDER ATTORNEY FEE

04/27/2010 40 $100 COST OF PROSECUTION

04/27/2010 40 $15 TO THE ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE TRUST FUND

04/27/2010 40 ALL COSTS ENTERED AS A CIVIL LIEN

04/27/2010 40 $250,000 FINE (MINIMUM MANDATORY)

04/27/2010 41 SENTENCING WITNESS TESTIFIED

04/27/2010 42 FINGERPRINTS OF DEFENDANT

04/29/2010 43 JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE

04/29/2010 44 CHARGES, COSTS, AND FEES ASSOCIATED WITH SENTENCE

04/29/2010 44 RECORDED INST

04/30/2010 45 COMMITMENT ISSUED

04/30/2010 46 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE AS TO JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE

04/30/2010 47 MOTION FOR REHEARING

05/13/2010 48 LETTER FROM DEFENDANT

05/24/2010 49 NOTICE OF APPEAL

05/24/2010 50 MOTION TO PROCEED WITHOUT PAYMENT OF COSTS, TO APPOINT

05/24/2010 50 PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR PURPOSE OF APPEAL AND TO DIRECT

05/24/2010 50 THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO PAY COURT REPORTER FEES.

05/24/2010 51 DIRECTIONS TO THE CLERK

05/24/2010 52 DESIGNATION OF THE RECORD TO THE COURT REPORTER

05/24/2010 53 STATEMENT OF JUDICIAL ACTS TO BE REVIEWED

05/24/2010 54 DESIGNATION OF THE RECORD TO THE COURT REPORTER

05/24/2010 55 MOTION TO WITHDRAW AS COUNSEL SUBSEQUENT TO FILING

05/24/2010 55 INITIAL APPELLATE DOCUMENTS

05/24/2010 56 DESIGNATION OF PUBLIC DEFENDER, SEVENTH JUDICIAL

05/24/2010 56 CIRCUIT, FOR THE HANDLING OF APPEAL

05/24/2010 57 NOTICE OF APPEAL FILED BY DEFENDANT

05/24/2010 58 STATEMENT OF JUDICIAL ACTS TO BE REVIEWED FILED BY

05/24/2010 58 DEFENDANT

05/24/2010 59 MOTION FOR APPOINTMENT OF APPELLATE COUNSEL

05/24/2010 60 DIRECTIONS TO THE CLERK FILED BY DEFENDANT

05/24/2010 61 MOTION TO DECLARE APPELLANT INSOLVENT

05/24/2010 62 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY FILED BY DEFENDANT

05/26/2010 63 ORDER ON DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR REHEARING

05/26/2010 64 ORDER ON MOTION TO WITHDRAW AS COUNSEL SUBSEQUENT

05/26/2010 64 TO FILING INITIAL APPELLATE DOCUMENTS

05/26/2010 65 ORDER APPOINTING OFFICE OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR

05/26/2010 65 PURPOSES OF APPEAL

05/26/2010 66 LETTER TO THE HONORABLE SUSAN WRIGHT

05/26/2010 67 LETTER TO THE OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

05/28/2010 68 LETTER FROM RENEA WHITMORE

06/02/2010 70 MOTION FOR MITIGATION

06/03/2010 69 ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF NOTICE OF APPEAL-APPEALNO.5D10-1855


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 11, 2010, 06:29:59 PM
Originally Posted by twall 

Latest court docket entries for Tommy

GRAND THEFT CHARGE (gun of neighbor)

06/03/2010 45 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 06/15/2010 AT 03:30

06/07/2010 46 DEFENDANTS WITHDRAWAL OF WITNESS

06/07/2010 47 AMENDED NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 06/15/2010 AT 03:30

06/07/2010 48 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
************************************************** ***************
POSSESSION OF A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE (van at bus stop incident)
NOTICE CHANGE OF PLEA

06/03/2010 31 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER

06/03/2010 31 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO A/C TO POSSESSION OF

06/03/2010 31 SCHEDULE II SUBSTANCE

06/03/2010 31 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 5 YRS DOC &/OR $5000 FINE

06/03/2010 31 PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI ORDERED, SENTENCING SET 07/06/2010

06/03/2010 32 REQUEST FOR PSI

06/03/2010 35 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST

06/08/2010 33 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-06-2010)

06/08/2010 34 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (07-06-2010)
************************************************** ************************
DRUG TRAFFICKING -NOTICE CHANGE OF PLEA

06/03/2010 35 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER

06/03/2010 35 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO A/C TO TRAFFICKING IN

06/03/2010 35 HYDROCODONE (4G-14G)

06/03/2010 35 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 30YRS DOC &/OR $15000 FINE

06/03/2010 35 PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI ORDERED, SENTENCING SET 07/06/2010

06/03/2010 36 REQUEST FOR PSI

06/08/2010 37 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-06-2010)

06/08/2010 38 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-06-2010) IN JAIL

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5276568&postcount=81


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 11, 2010, 06:37:42 PM
Donna Brock
St. Johns Co. trafficking charge        

Date Event Judge Location Result
6/21/2010 9:00:00 AM FELONY JURY TRIAL BERGER, WENDY W Courtroom 328
6/15/2010 9:00:00 AM FELONY DOCKET CALL BERGER, WENDY W Courtroom 328


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 12, 2010, 08:32:57 PM
UCN: 542010CF001125XXAXMX
File Date: 05/18/2010
Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM
Case Status: PRE-TRIAL
Defense Atty: CULBERT, BRUCE P
Case File Location: CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant: PAGE, GREGORY LEWIS JR
Alias: No Alias Records

Date # Docket Description
05/18/2010 1 ARREST REPORT - PPD OFF/EGAN (ARREST 5/14/10)
05/18/2010 1 BOOKING NUMBER: 10-2072
05/18/2010 1 POSSESSION OF CANNABIS IN EXCESS OF 20 GRAMS
05/18/2010 1 TRAFFICKING OF HYDROCODONE
05/18/2010 1 POSSESSION OF SCHEDULE II CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE WITH
05/18/2010 1 INTENT TO SELL
05/18/2010 1 POSSESSION OF HYDROCODON WITH INTENT TO SELL
05/18/2010 2 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 5/15/10
05/18/2010 2 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING
05/18/2010 2 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
05/18/2010 2 $1004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. I
05/18/2010 2 NO BOND AS TO CT. II
05/18/2010 2 $2504.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. III
05/18/2010 3 AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS
05/18/2010 4 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER AT FIRST APP HEARING
05/27/2010 5 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE FILED BY: BRUCE CULBERT
05/27/2010 6 MOTION FOR STATEMENT OF PARTICULARS
05/27/2010 7 NOTICE OF DISCOVERY
05/27/2010 10 MOTION FOR REDUCTION OF BOND
06/02/2010 8 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-01-2010) IN JAIL
06/02/2010 9 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-01-2010)
06/02/2010 11 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 06/18/2010 AT 02:00 PM
06/04/2010 12 INFORMATION (TRAFFICKING IN ROXICODONE - 28G TO
06/04/2010 12 30 KG)
06/04/2010 13 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION TO CTS I & III ONLY

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: higherhopes on June 12, 2010, 09:35:05 PM
GRAPHIC PHOTOGRAPHS OF HALEIGH CUMMINGS’ VAGINA TAKEN TO PROVE CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE OF KINDERGARTNER

Something’s very wrong in the case of HaLeigh Cummings

by Timothy Charles Holmseth

…graphic photographs of HaLeigh Cummings’ vagina exist that were taken to exhibit evidence of child sexual abuse…

…Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy secretly telephoned Ronald Cummings shortly before Cummings and Misty Croslin were arrested…

June 12, 2010

In the case of a missing child, it is not normal for law enforcement to not have custody of photos that may reveal descriptive evidence of sexual abuse of the missing child. In the case of HaLeigh Cummings, graphic photographs of HaLeigh Cummings’ vagina exist that were taken to exhibit evidence of child sexual abuse.

Full Article here... http://writeintoaction.com/Something%20Very%20Wrong.html




What the HEll is this guy talking about.......I think he better have some very real proof of this stuff if he is gonna claim this is true.......I think he has finally fell off his rocker.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 12, 2010, 09:35:17 PM
www.writeintoaction.com

snipped from the above article ... read above for more....

Something’s very wrong in the case of HaLeigh Cummings

by Timothy Charles Holmseth

…graphic photographs of HaLeigh Cummings’ vagina exist that were taken to exhibit evidence of child sexual abuse…

…Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy secretly telephoned Ronald Cummings shortly before Cummings and Misty Croslin were arrested…

June 12, 2010

In the case of a missing child, it is not normal for law enforcement to not have custody of photos that may reveal descriptive evidence of sexual abuse of the missing child. In the case of HaLeigh Cummings, graphic photographs of HaLeigh Cummings’ vagina exist that were taken to exhibit evidence of child sexual abuse.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 12, 2010, 10:04:58 PM
I am now completely speechless with this, WTH is all I can say.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on June 12, 2010, 10:17:28 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Missing133.gif)

Bring Haleigh Home


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mymonkey on June 12, 2010, 10:55:37 PM
I am now completely speechless with this, WTH is all I can say.

Me too NRCG.... I can not believe someone wrote this hope they have lots
of proof to back it up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: cw618 on June 12, 2010, 11:31:54 PM
GRAPHIC PHOTOGRAPHS OF HALEIGH CUMMINGS’ VAGINA TAKEN TO PROVE CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE OF KINDERGARTNER

Something’s very wrong in the case of HaLeigh Cummings

by Timothy Charles Holmseth

…graphic photographs of HaLeigh Cummings’ vagina exist that were taken to exhibit evidence of child sexual abuse…

…Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy secretly telephoned Ronald Cummings shortly before Cummings and Misty Croslin were arrested…

June 12, 2010

In the case of a missing child, it is not normal for law enforcement to not have custody of photos that may reveal descriptive evidence of sexual abuse of the missing child. In the case of HaLeigh Cummings, graphic photographs of HaLeigh Cummings’ vagina exist that were taken to exhibit evidence of child sexual abuse.

Full Article here... http://writeintoaction.com/Something%20Very%20Wrong.html




What the HEll is this guy talking about.......I think he better have some very real proof of this stuff if he is gonna claim this is true.......I think he has finally fell off his rocker.

right, what is he saying. later in the article he says, im guessing
he is looking for attention, but going to get, the not so good kind
of attention

Quote
In the case of a missing child it is not normal for a man to advise an advocate and published author that all the ranking members of a sheriff’s office are involved with child prostitution. In the case of HaLeigh Cummings, John Regan told Wayanne Kruger (who was once featured on the news magazine 20/20) as he was attempting to stop her from reporting the sexual abuse of HaLeigh Cummings to police, that the police themselves were involved in child sexual abuse.













Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: cw618 on June 12, 2010, 11:39:15 PM
wonder if Timothy Charles Holmseth, is from satsuma, and putnam county fla.
that would explain, all the strange stuff, he writes


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 13, 2010, 12:17:24 AM
wonder if Timothy Charles Holmseth, is from satsuma, and putnam county fla.
that would explain, all the strange stuff, he writes

It has now been 16 months since HaLeigh ... disappeared .... was abducted .... was murdered ... was or has been hidden ....

Do you not think this is STRANGE ... the circumstances surrounding this child`s disappearance.  The fact that NO ONE seems to KNOW ANYTHING ... the fact that NO ONE ADMITS to ANYTHING .... the fact that we have nothing but LIARS ... the fact that PCSO, LE, FDLE are ALL at a STANDSTILL ....

DO YOU WONDER WHY .... I sure as heck DO.  SOMETHING IS GOING ON ... AND IT IS DEFINITELY STRANGE. 

So, what makes you think that what Tim H. has posted is ....STRANGE ...  I mean it would fit right into this case, don`t you think.  SOMETHING DEFINITELY IS STRANGE ...... and WHY could this not be true, that she has been molested. 

BOTH of these families are HIDING SOMETHING .... SOMEONE has knowledge of something....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 13, 2010, 01:46:41 AM
This guy just doesn't let it go.. He is tripping or on some sort of medication.. First he was standing up for Ron.. Then throwing Cobra under the Bus.. Then it was Crystal family is hiding Haleigh. Where is he getting all these fable stories from bloggers? Not 1 ounce of evidence again. Did he say how he made out with the other complaints he has filed? He throws in the mix of some truths , twists and  lies. LE does not have to give out any information on a on going investigation.. Has he been to Satuma ?

1. Now he is aware of sexual photographs of Haleigh.. Really? How is he aware of them..  Did he explain that or just throwing crap out again? Please file another complaint in to LE.

2.John Regan persuaded Wayanee Kruger from reporting to law enforcement of sexual abuse.. Geeze where is this evidence along with the photos?

3. When did Marie Griffis accuse herself of knowing where Haleigh is and she is ok and living in Georgia or Alabama??

4. So Crystal went back to sleep after receiving a phone call that Haleigh was missing?  So now he knows about what went on at Crystal home that morning..  Was it Timmy and his wife that went back to sleep?

5. Hardy secretly telephone Ron and Misty before they were arrested? How does he know this does he have Hardy's phone tapped.. I doubt it.. Back it up..I dont like Hardy on this case  since his son was arrested for drugs and  I think he should step aside.. But this is absurd

6. John Merchant advised Ronald to marry Misty? How does he know this? Back it up
I dont like John Mechant as Ron always throws out Merchants name out there and I think he should step aside

7.The ranking members at the sheriffs office are involved in child prostitution?
Again Mr crayon man where is the evidence and where are you getting the BS.. Back it up..

This man is nuts... IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 13, 2010, 02:04:40 AM
Also Mr Crayon Man...

You failed to mention why mother Teresa taped the LE conversation..
And as far as Mother Teresa statin her home was broken in and photos of Haleigh
were taken and clothes.. I dont believe one word she says she has stalled this investigation from the beginning and trying to turn the focused of Haleigh gone missing in the wrong direction..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 13, 2010, 02:14:07 AM
I am now completely speechless with this, WTH is all I can say.

Me too NRCG.... I can not believe someone wrote this hope they have lots
of proof to back it up.

This POS disgusts me..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 13, 2010, 09:57:32 AM
I am now completely speechless with this, WTH is all I can say.

Me too NRCG.... I can not believe someone wrote this hope they have lots
of proof to back it up.

This POS disgusts me..
I've been thinking about this for hours and the more I think the worse it gets. IF this is true, who in the world took the pictures, and WHY was nothing done about this?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: alagary on June 13, 2010, 10:10:24 AM
Holmeth has joined the list of people that I'd like to bust in the mouth.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on June 13, 2010, 12:54:44 PM
I am now completely speechless with this, WTH is all I can say.

Me too NRCG.... I can not believe someone wrote this hope they have lots
of proof to back it up.

This POS disgusts me..
I've been thinking about this for hours and the more I think the worse it gets. IF this is true, who in the world took the pictures, and WHY was nothing done about this?

That dude is off his rocker completely, don't even give him the time of day or even think about whatever he says! I wouldn't even read it if I were you.  Where is IslandM, she knows all about him from way back.  He has zero credibility.

(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii361/BudsGirl/Haleigh/HaLeigh19.jpg)





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 13, 2010, 01:00:01 PM
He must be a total crackpot, for anyone to write such a thing. Disgusting.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: cw618 on June 13, 2010, 03:07:13 PM
Holmeth has joined the list of people that I'd like to bust in the mouth.

i call second dibbs


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on June 13, 2010, 08:33:24 PM
Am in full agreement with all of you!  The list of questions, those are exactly what I'd like to know as well.....

I will admit to having been taken in by this guy, some time back.  There was just enough weirdness about this case that I was thinking, hmmm what IF???? 

And yet..... the more he kept on, the weirder all that he had to say has gotten.  Seems that he's done just about everything he can do, contacted just about everyone he can think of, and in the doing of, has managed to offend and piss off just about everyone involved, and/or reading. 

Seems like this latest is just another attempt at getting attention to his 'info'.. It also seems that with each occurence, he ratchets it up another notch, to a higher level of OMG he did not just say that!  Doesn't it seem that way??  This one takes the cake tho.  Not only has he crossed the line of decency, IMO, but this is so far out there am thinking it may be edging toward libel/slander/whatever and a lawsuit brought by some, if he's not careful. 

IMO, if he 'has the goods' so to speak, to back ANY of what he claims, then he needs to put up or shut up.  Yes he's put info after info after info out there.  Endless photos, emails, videos, audios, documents, etc etc etc.  And yet....... none of it cold hard factual evidence that can stand up in court against --- anyone.  Facts and rumors taken and spun to suit his stance.  Bits of truth here and there, twisted beyond recognition, snuck in there without evidence of any kind, mixed in with the plethora of junk he does have.  It makes one's head spin to read him for any length of time!  IMO, this has become an obsession to the man.  And has gotten wayyyyy the heck beyond even being unhealthy.  For himself, for those reading, for those being accused, for HaLeigh. 

When will it end with him?? 

I do think we need to know his latest craziness, but not because there is any level of merit in what he says.  Just to be 'on top' of it, so to speak. 

Seems our HaLeigh gets shoved further and further onto the back burner, just in trying to take in the weirdness that this case has brought out in others. 

And yet....... there's a teensy little part of me who whispers every now and then:  what IF any of what he's trying to say is true?  what if??  Could it be at all possible that what is truly happening in HaLeigh's case is something deeper, heavier than any of us can imagine? 

okies.. i better shake that off fast.  go pull weeds or something. 

<hugs to all>

 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on June 13, 2010, 10:27:31 PM
I read Tim's latest blog  post after  I found the link on  my Tweets.

My time on the pc is very  limited tonight.

IMO someone needs 2 copy and paste Tim's latest bull blog
to the Satsuma LE. IF there is no validity to this posting,
then he needs to be held  accountable for what he has said.
Yes, we have freedom of speech, but Tim's accusations and statements
exceed that freedom.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on June 13, 2010, 10:33:18 PM
Could Tim be a schizophrenic?
Seriously !

His thinking appears to be unclear.
Could the "voices" be giving him his info ?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: islandmonkey on June 13, 2010, 11:08:18 PM
Could Tim be a schizophrenic?
Seriously !

His thinking appears to be unclear.
Could the "voices" be giving him his info ?

I agree, and he has been in a mental institute before...........read his profile and you'll understand why. I was disgusted at his last post, as my son was a victim at 3 of sexual abuse and the rape crisis clinic NEVER took pic's, they just documented it like an autopsy diagram showing the damage.

I have missed so much latley due to the oil spill looming off our coast, but it seems nothing has changed sadly. I really wonder if this will go unsolved and innocent HaLeigh will NEVER recieve any justice:(


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: my2cents on June 14, 2010, 01:43:44 PM
oh my gosh...that article is something else...but one thing that is certain, everything about this case is strange IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Love2Read on June 14, 2010, 03:19:00 PM
Holmeth has joined the list of people that I'd like to bust in the mouth.

I'll second that.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Blumonkey on June 14, 2010, 04:14:20 PM
When this case appears to be unsolvable with no resolution in sight, I just feel compelled all the more to pray for Divine Intervention that Haleigh will be found. I know for a fact that God can bring the darkest things to light as no human can. Where is Haleigh ?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 14, 2010, 04:27:30 PM
TrotlineDesigns said,
in June 14th, 2010 at 1:46 am

Criminal defense lawyers do not often assert the entrapment defense in criminal cases, particularly drug cases, because it does not apply in most cases. However, there are cases where the entrapment defense is a valid defense when a person is charged with a drug crime in Florida.

For instance, in a recent case, a defendant was charged with trafficking in cocaine after he set up a drug deal between a cocaine supplier and a buyer who turned out to be a confidential informant (CI) for the police. His criminal defense lawyer argued that the defendant was entrapped into committing the trafficking crime. The defendant testified that he was addicted to cocaine and also used other illegal drugs, such as marijuana and heroin. He could not afford his drug habit and needed a way to make some money. The CI approached him and asked him if he could arrange a deal for a large amount of cocaine. Several times, the defendant told the CI that he was not interested. However, the CI persisted and finally offered the defendant some of the cocaine if he would arrange the drug deal. The defendant agreed and was arrested by police for trafficking in cocaine right before the deal was done.

The standard for entrapment in Florida is as follows: it is not entrapment when the police intend to disrupt ongoing criminal activity and use reasonable means to do so. Alternatively, if the police are going out of their way to take advantage of someone who is not otherwise involved in drug trafficking or a related drug crime, and they use unreasonable methods to do it, the defense of entrapment can work. However, if the state can show that the defendant is predisposed to commit the drug crime, i.e. he/she has sold or been involved with illegal drugs before or was familiar with how drug deals work and the terminology, the entrapment defense is problematic, unless the defendant can show that the police’s conduct was particularly outrageous.

Criminal defense lawyers do not often use the entrapment defense in drug cases. However, the law does allow it, and there are circumstances where it may be applicable. If it is successful, the drug charges will be dismissed.

http://www.bloggernews.net/124708


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 14, 2010, 04:30:02 PM
Karon said,
in June 14th, 2010 at 3:12 am

T.J. said that we, possibly, could hear two more names coming out that we haven’t heard before in the Haleigh case. He didn’t say the drug case.

http://www.bloggernews.net/124708


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on June 14, 2010, 05:13:44 PM
HH - I'm really busy over in the NH forum but could you do me a favor and stop posting crap from that Tim. H's site.  He's a nutcase.  



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 14, 2010, 05:24:27 PM
Karon said,
in June 14th, 2010 at 3:12 am

T.J. said that we, possibly, could hear two more names coming out that we haven’t heard before in the Haleigh case. He didn’t say the drug case.

http://www.bloggernews.net/124708

Thanks Heart, wonder what this is all about?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 14, 2010, 06:12:40 PM
Haleigh Cummings – Another Side Show Starts

Posted on June 14th, 2010
by Simon Barrett in crime


What is interesting in following the Haleigh Cummings case is how the net casts wider and wider with each passing week. The little girl is still missing, and the PCSO have declared the case a homicide. The three most likely suspects sit behind bars, father Ronald Cummings, his girlfriend/baby sitter/wife/ex wife Misty Croslin and her brother Tommy Croslin. None face charges related to the disappearance or suspected murder of Haleigh Cummings, but rather they face decades behind bars for charges related to drug trafficking.

We received some information today that we have been trying all day to verify. No one seems to want to step up to the plate, but no one is denying the story.

Charles (Chuck) Ingram is a bail bondsman in Palatka. His involvement in the Haleigh Cummings case is on the periphery, his company posted bail for many of the ancillary players in the case. His company was also the one that handed over the Snodgrass file to William Cobra Staubs, a file that created havoc for Cobra. He is still trying to dig his way out.

Chuck Ingram is no friend of Cobra’s, last October Cobra issued a written statement which in part says:

Now to understand the motives behind this, we must look at the accusers, for lack of the proper words to call them. The first is the office of Chucks Bail bonds where sits most of the time, convicted sexual predator Chuck Ingram with his wife and writing agent dale Ingram. We shot a good deal of film on them and they know what will happen if that film reaches the State of Florida.

The news on the street is that today Chuck Ingram was picked up under federal gun charges.  As I said, we have no official verification, but I have not found a single source to refute the statement. We are hoping to have documentary proof early tomorrow morning.

Stay tuned, this case gets stranger and stranger.

Simon Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/124711


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 14, 2010, 06:21:56 PM
UCN:    542001CF001914XXAXMX
File Date:    12/03/2001
Judge:    TERRY J LARUE
Case Status:    CASE CLOSED
Defense Atty:    WOOD, GARRY L
Case File Location:   RECORDS CENTER

Defendant:   INGRAM, CHARLES DURWOOD
Alias:   No Alias Records

Date   #   Docket Description
12/03/2001   1   COMPLAINT - PCSO- SEXUAL BATTERY
12/03/2001   2   WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT NONE- EAM
12/06/2001   3   ARREST REPORT - CT 1-CAPITAL SEXUAL BATTERY
12/06/2001   3   BOND SET AT NONE
12/06/2001   4   AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
12/07/2001   5   FELONY WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED
12/07/2001   6   DEFENSE'S MOTION TO REDUCE/SET BOND
12/07/2001   7   NOTICE OF HEARING SET FOR 12/07/2001 AT 3:00 P.M.
12/07/2001   8   MOTION HEARING MINUTES: DEFT. PRESENT, ATT BY CARL
12/07/2001   8   ZOLEZZI. HEARING HELD ON DEFENSE'S MOTION TO SET AND
12/07/2001   8   OR REDUCE BOND, COURT TO TAKE UNDER ADVISEMENT AND
12/07/2001   8   PREPARE ORDER.
12/10/2001   9   ORDER CONCERNING BOND AND BOND CONDITIONS-
12/10/2001   9   BOND SET AT $25,000.00 SECURED- DEFT. SHALL HAVE NO
12/10/2001   9   CONTACT, DIRECT OR INDIRECT WITH THE ALLEGED VICTIM
12/10/2001   9   OR WITH ANY OTHER RESIDENCE IN THE HOUSEHOLD WHERE SHE
12/10/2001   9   IS RESIDING, DEFT. SHALL RESIDE AT RIVERWOOD APARTMENTS,
12/10/2001   9   APT. 4F, CURFEW BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 8:00 P.M. AND
12/10/2001   9   5:30 A.M. DAILY, DEFT. SHALL NOT LEAVE THE CONFINES
12/10/2001   9   OF THE COUNTIES OF PUTNAM, ALACHUA, BRADFORD, CLAY,
12/10/2001   9   DUVAL, FLAGLER, MARION, ST. JOHNS, AND VOLUSIA, WITHOUT
12/10/2001   9   PRIOR PERMISSION FROM THIS COURT, DEFT. SHALL REFRAIN
12/10/2001   9   FROM ANY NEW LAW VIOLATIONS, DEFT. SHALL HAVE NO
12/10/2001   9   CONTACT WITH ANY PERSON UNDER THE AGE OF 16 UNLESS SUCH
12/10/2001   9   CONTACT IS CONTINUOUSLY MONITORED BY AN ADULT WHO IS
12/10/2001   9   AWARE OF THE DEFT'S BOND STATUS AND OF THIS SPECIFIC
12/10/2001   9   REQUIREMENT, DEFT. SHALL APPEAR ALL FUTURE COURT
12/10/2001   9   APPEARANCES.
12/10/2001   10   $25,000.00 CHUCK'S BAIL BOND POSTED - #0324357
12/20/2001   11   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE AND WRITTEN PLEA OF NOT GUILTY
12/20/2001   11   FILED BY CARL K ZOLEZZI
12/20/2001   12   NOTICE OF DISCOVERY
12/20/2001   13   WAIVER OF APPEARANCE BY DEFENDANT AT PRE TRIAL
12/21/2001   14   MOTION TO REVOKE BOND
12/26/2001   15   FIRST AMENDED MOTION TO REVOKE BOND
12/27/2001   16   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED: ED REED
12/27/2001   17   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED: DALE INGRAM
12/28/2001   18   MOTION HEARING MINUTES: DEFENDANT PRESENT, ATTENDED BY
12/28/2001   18   CARL K ZOLEZZI, COURT HEARD STATE'S MOTION TO REVOKE
12/28/2001   18   BOND, COURT GRANTED MOTION, DEFENDANT'S BOND REVOKED AND
12/28/2001   18   COMMITTED TO PCJ UNTIL CASE IS RESOLVED
12/28/2001   19   WITNESS TESTIFIED DAILY
12/28/2001   20   EVIDENCE FILED AT HEARING ON MOTION TO REVOKE BOND
12/28/2001   21   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED: DALE
12/28/2001   21   INGRAM
12/28/2001   22   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED: ED REED
01/03/2002   23   MOTION TO DETERMINE COMPETENCY TO PROCEED
01/04/2002   24   INFORMATION (CT 1-SEXUAL BATTERY ON PERSON LESS THAN
01/09/2002   25   ORDER SETTING PRE TRIAL 01/31/2002
01/14/2002   26   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (01-31-2002) IN JAIL
01/14/2002   27   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 1/31/2002
01/23/2002   28   ORDER APPOINTING EXPERTS PURSUANT TO SECTION 916.11(1)
01/23/2002   28   AND FLORIDA RULES OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE 3.210 (B),
01/23/2002   28   3.211 (C)
01/25/2002   29   MOTION
01/25/2002   30   STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
01/25/2002   31   WITNESS LIST
01/25/2002   32   DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE
01/29/2002   33   PROCEEDINGS TAKEN ON 12/28/2001 BEFORE THE HONORABLE
01/29/2002   33   A.W. NICHOLS, III
01/31/2002   34   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY
01/31/2002   34   CARL ZOLEZZI. ON MOTION OF DEFENSE, CASE CONTINUED TO
01/31/2002   34   PRE-TRIAL 02/28/2002. DEFENSE MOTION TO RELEASE DEFT.
01/31/2002   34   MOTION DENIED W/OUT PREJUDICE.
01/31/2002   35   ORDER TO TRANSPORT ISSUED:
02/06/2002   36   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-28-2002) IN JAIL
02/06/2002   37   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 02/28/2002
02/14/2002   38   ORDER TO TRANSPORT RETURNED: EXECUTED
02/27/2002   39   DEFENSE'S RENEWED MOTION TO REDUCE/SET BOND
02/28/2002   40   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY
02/28/2002   40   CARL ZOLEZZI. ON MOTION OF DEFENSE, CASE CONTINUED TO
02/28/2002   40   PRE-TRIAL 03/28/2002. DEFENSE RENEWED MOTION TO SET
02/28/2002   40   BOND, TO BE HEARD AT LATER DATE.
03/04/2002   41   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-28-2002) IN JAIL
03/04/2002   42   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 03/28/2002
03/05/2002   43   NOTICE OF HEARING SET 03/07/2002 AT 10:00 A.M.
03/07/2002   44   EVALUATION PERFORMED BY DR. ROBERT B. DAVID PH.D.
03/07/2002   45   EVALUATION PERFORMED BY DR. UMESH MHATRE, M.D.
03/07/2002   46   MOTION HEARING MINUTES: DEFT. PRESENT, ATT BY
03/07/2002   46   CARL ZOLEZZI. HEARING HELD ON DEFENSE'S RENEWED MOTION
03/07/2002   46   TO REDUCE/SET BAIL, COURT TO TAKE UNDER ADIVSEMENT AND
03/07/2002   46   PREPARE WRITTEN ORDER.
03/07/2002   47   CPT MEDICAL EXAMINATION SEALED PER COURT
03/07/2002   48   ORDER CONCERNING BOND- DEFT'S RENEWED MOTION TO REDUCE
03/07/2002   48   BOND IS DENIED
03/11/2002   49   SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO:
03/11/2002   49   SARAH INGRAM TO BE TAKEN 03/19/2002 AT 1:00 P.M.
03/11/2002   50   SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO:
03/11/2002   50   SARAH MILLS TO BE TAKEN 03/19/2002 AT 2:00 P.M.
03/11/2002   51   NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITIONS
03/11/2002   52   NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
03/11/2002   53   NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
03/11/2002   54   NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
03/28/2002   55   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY
03/28/2002   55   CARL ZOLEZZI. STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUCED READY
03/28/2002   55   FOR TRIAL, CASE SET FOR TRIAL 05/06/2002
03/28/2002   56   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY
03/28/2002   56   CARL ZOLEZZI. STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUCED READY FOR
03/28/2002   56   TRIAL, CASE SET FOR TRIAL 05/06/2002
04/03/2002   57   NOTICE OF HEARING SET 04/15/2002 AT 3:30 P.M.
04/04/2002   58   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (05-06-2002) IN JAIL
04/04/2002   59   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 05/06/2002
04/11/2002   60   STATE'S SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY
04/11/2002   61   STATE'S SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY
04/11/2002   62   STATE'S MOTION DIRECTING THE CLERK TO RELEASE
04/11/2002   62   EMERGENCY SHELTER TAPES
04/12/2002   63   DEPOSITION OF: JOHNNY GREENWOOD
04/12/2002   64   STIPULATION TO STATE'S MOTION TO TEST INDIVIDUAL
04/12/2002   64   PURSUANT TO F.S. 381.004 (3) (I) (1) OR 951.27
04/12/2002   65   DEFENDANT'S DISCOVERY RESPONSE
04/15/2002   66   ORDER- SEALED PER COURT
04/15/2002   67   ORDER DIRECTING THE CLERK TO RELEASE EMERGENCY
04/15/2002   67   SHELTER TAPES TO ACCENT REPORTING
04/17/2002   68   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY RESPONSE
04/22/2002   69   PER COURT: CASE RESET FOR TRIAL ON 05/20/2002 AT
04/22/2002   69   9:00 A.M.
04/23/2002   70   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (05-20-2002) OUT OF JAIL
04/23/2002   71   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 05/20/2002
04/24/2002   72   DEFENSE'S MOTION TO CONTINUE TRIAL
04/24/2002   73   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
04/24/2002   73   NURSE ELIZABETH TALAGA
04/24/2002   74   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
04/24/2002   74   MS. KIM CLOUSE
04/24/2002   75   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
04/24/2002   75   DET. TIM CAMPBELL
04/24/2002   76   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
04/24/2002   76   DET. JOHNNY GREENWOOD
04/24/2002   77   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
04/24/2002   77   LT. JAMES GRIFFITH
04/24/2002   78   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
04/24/2002   78   LT. RODNEY HARPER
04/24/2002   79   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
04/24/2002   79   DET. RICKY LYLE
04/24/2002   80   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
04/24/2002   80   DET. JOHN MERCHANT
04/24/2002   81   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
04/24/2002   81   DET. HORACE PARKER
04/24/2002   82   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
04/24/2002   82   MR. JOHN WHITAKER
04/24/2002   83   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
04/24/2002   83   MR. DONALD BOLAND
04/24/2002   84   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
04/24/2002   84   MR. ED REED
04/24/2002   85   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
04/24/2002   85   JOYCE MILLS
04/24/2002   86   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
04/24/2002   86   TERESA SCAPELLATI
04/25/2002   87   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
04/25/2002   87   ON: NURSE ELIZABETH TALAGA
04/25/2002   88   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
04/25/2002   88   NURSE ELIZABETH TALAGA
04/26/2002   89   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
04/26/2002   89   SERVED ON; DET. RICKY LYLE
04/26/2002   90   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
04/26/2002   90   SERVED ON; DET. TIM CAMPBELL
04/26/2002   91   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
04/26/2002   91   DET. JOHNNY GREENWOOD
04/26/2002   92   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
04/26/2002   92   SERVED ON: DET. JOHN MERCHANT
04/26/2002   93   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
04/26/2002   93   DET. HORACE PARKER
04/29/2002   94   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
04/29/2002   94   SERVED ON: MR. JOHN WHITAKER
04/29/2002   95   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
04/29/2002   95   SERVED ON: TERESA A. SCAPELLATI
04/29/2002   96   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
04/29/2002   96   SERVED ON; LT. JAMES GRIFFITH
04/29/2002   97   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
04/29/2002   97   SERVED ON: LT. RODNEY HARPER
04/29/2002   98   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
04/29/2002   98   MR. ED REED
05/01/2002   99   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
05/01/2002   99   SERVED ON: JOYCE MILLS
05/03/2002   100   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
05/03/2002   100   SERVED ON: MS. KIM CLOUSE
05/10/2002   101   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
05/10/2002   101   SERVED ON: NURSE ELIZABETH TALAGA
05/10/2002   102   NOTICE OF SIMILAR FACT EVIDENCE
05/13/2002   103   SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM FOR TRIAL ISSUED TO: CUSTODIAN
05/13/2002   103   OF RECORDS PALATKA BAPTIST TEMPLE CHRISTIAN SCHOOL
05/13/2002   104   SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM FOR TRIAL ISSUED TO:CUSTODIAN OF
05/13/2002   104   RECORDS DISTRICT SCHOOL BOARD OF PUTNAM COUNTY CAMPBELL
05/13/2002   104   ADMINISTATION BUILDING
05/13/2002   105   SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM FOR TRIAL RETURNED
05/13/2002   105   SERVED ON; CUSTODIAN OF RECORDS - PALATKA BAPTIST
05/13/2002   105   TEMPLE CHRISTIAN SCHOOL
05/13/2002   106   SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM FOR TRIAL RETURNED SERVED ON:
05/13/2002   106   CUSTODIAN OF RECORDS- DISTRICT SCHOOL BOARD OF PUTNAM
05/13/2002   106   COUNTY
05/14/2002   107   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/14/2002   107   EVIDENCE CUSTODIAN PCSO
05/14/2002   108   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/14/2002   108   MR. DONALD BOLAND
05/14/2002   109   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/14/2002   109   DET. MIKE LASSITER
05/14/2002   110   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/14/2002   110   SARAH INGRAM
05/14/2002   111   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/14/2002   111   SARAH MILLS
05/14/2002   112   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/14/2002   112   MRS. SARAH BOONE
05/14/2002   113   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/14/2002   113   MR. JENNIFER HEBERT
05/14/2002   114   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/14/2002   114   CHRISTIE HARRIS
05/14/2002   115   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/14/2002   115   MR. KIMBERLY HOWE
05/15/2002   116   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
05/15/2002   116   SERVED ON: SARAH INGRAM
05/15/2002   117   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
05/15/2002   117   SERVED ON: SARAH MILLS
05/15/2002   118   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
05/15/2002   118   MR. DONALD BOLAND
05/15/2002   119   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
05/15/2002   119   CHRISTIE HARRIS
05/15/2002   120   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
05/15/2002   120   SERVED ON; DET. MIKE LASSITER
05/15/2002   121   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
05/15/2002   121   MS. JENNIFER HEBERT
05/15/2002   122   DEFENSE'S MOTION IN LIMINE TO PROHIBIT PRODUCTION
05/15/2002   122   OF ALLEGED SIMILAR FACT EVIDENCE
05/15/2002   123   TRIAL MINUTES: AT CALENDAR CALL CASE CONTINUED TO
05/15/2002   123   NEXT TRIAL 06/17/2002 (STATE'S MOTION- DEFENSE OBJECTS)
05/16/2002   124   ORDER CONCERNING BOND AND BOND CONDITIONS-
05/16/2002   124   $25,004.00 (CONDITIONS- DEFT. SHALL HAVE NO CONTACT,
05/16/2002   124   DIRECT OR INDIRECT WITH THE ALLEGED VICTIM OR WITH
05/16/2002   124   ANY OTHER RESIDENT IN THE HOUSEHOLD WHERE SHE IS
05/16/2002   124   RESIDING, EXCEPT CONTACT WITH ANY MEMBER OF DEFT'S
05/16/2002   124   IMMEDIATE HOUSEHOLD, THE DEFT. SHALL HAVE NO
05/16/2002   124   CONTACT, DIRECT OR INDIRECT WITH ANY WITNESS LISTED
05/16/2002   124   BY THE STATE OR WITH ANY OTHER RESIDENT IN THE HOUSEHOLD
05/16/2002   124   WHERE ANY WITNESS IS RESIDING, DEFT. SHALL RESIDE AT
05/16/2002   124   RIVERWOOD APT. APT. #4F, AND SHALL HAVE CURFEW BETWEEN
05/16/2002   124   THE HOURS OF 6:00 P.M. AND 6:00 A.M. DAILY, DEFT. SHALL
05/16/2002   124   NOT LEAVE THE CONFINES OF PUTNAM COUNTY, WITHOUT PRIOR
05/16/2002   124   PERMISSION FROM THIS COURT, DEFT. SHALL REFRAIN FROM ANY
05/16/2002   124   NEW LAW VIOLATION AND SHALL NOT POSSESS ANY FIREARMS
05/16/2002   124   WITHIN HIS CARE, CUSTODY OF CONTROL, DEFT. SHALL
05/16/2002   124   REFRAIN FROM THE CONSUMPTION OF ANY ALCOHOLIC
05/16/2002   124   BEVERAGES AND SHALL NOT ENTER ANY BUISINESS
05/16/2002   124   ESTABLISHMENT WHERE THE SALE OF ALCOHOL IS THE
05/16/2002   124   PRIMARY BUSINESS, DEFT. SHALL HAVE NO CONTACT WITH
05/16/2002   124   ANY PERSON UNDER AGE OF 18 YRS UNLESS SUCH CONTACT
05/16/2002   124   IS CONTINUOULSY MONITORED BY AN ADULT WHO IS
05/16/2002   124   AWARE OF THE DEFT'S BOND STATUS AND OF THIS
05/16/2002   124   SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT, DEFT. SHALL APPEAR
05/16/2002   124   AT ALL FUTURE COURT APPEARANCES.
05/16/2002   125   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (06-17-2002) IN JAIL
05/16/2002   126   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 06/17/2002
05/17/2002   127   $25,004.00 CHUCK'S BAIL BOND POSTED - #326796
05/17/2002   128   NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (06-17-2002)
05/17/2002   129   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED:
05/17/2002   129   EVIDENCE CUSTODIAN
05/17/2002   130   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED:
05/17/2002   130   KIMBERLY LYNN HOWE
05/20/2002   131   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT RETURNED
05/20/2002   132   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED: DONALD
05/20/2002   132   BOLAND
05/22/2002   133   AMENDED ORDER CONCERNING BOND AND BOND CONDITIONS
05/31/2002   134   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/31/2002   134   HEIDI GETT PARHAM
05/31/2002   135   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/31/2002   135   CHRISTIE HARRIS
05/31/2002   136   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/31/2002   136   NURSE ELIZABETH TALAGA
05/31/2002   137   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/31/2002   137   EVIDENCE CUSTODIAN, PCSO
05/31/2002   138   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/31/2002   138   MR. JOHN WHITAKER
05/31/2002   139   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/31/2002   139   DET. TIM CAMPBELL
05/31/2002   140   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/31/2002   140   LT. RODNEY HARPER
05/31/2002   141   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/31/2002   141   LT. JAMES GRIFFITH
05/31/2002   142   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/31/2002   142   MS. KIMBLERY LYNN HOWE
05/31/2002   143   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/31/2002   143   MR. JENNIFER HEBERT
05/31/2002   144   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/31/2002   144   SARAH INGRAM
05/31/2002   145   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/31/2002   145   TYRA INGRAM
05/31/2002   146   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/31/2002   146   DS JED BEDENBAUGH
05/31/2002   147   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/31/2002   147   MR. DONALD BOLAND
05/31/2002   148   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/31/2002   148   TERESA SCAPELLATI
05/31/2002   149   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/31/2002   149   MR. ED REED
05/31/2002   150   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/31/2002   150   DET. HORACE PARKER
05/31/2002   151   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/31/2002   151   SARAH MILLS
05/31/2002   152   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/31/2002   152   JOYCE MILLS
05/31/2002   153   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/31/2002   153   DET. JOHN MERCHANT
05/31/2002   154   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/31/2002   154   DET. RICKY LYLE
05/31/2002   155   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/31/2002   155   DET. MIKE LASSITER
05/31/2002   156   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
05/31/2002   156   MS. KIM CLOUSE
06/03/2002   157   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
06/03/2002   157   SERVED ON: DET. HORACE PARKER
06/03/2002   158   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
06/03/2002   158   SERVED ON: DET. RICKY LYLE
06/03/2002   159   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
06/03/2002   159   SERVED ON; DET. JOHN MERCHANT
06/03/2002   160   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
06/03/2002   160   SERVED ON: TERESA SCAPELLATI
06/03/2002   161   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
06/03/2002   161   CHRISTIE HARRIS ESPIE
06/05/2002   162   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
06/05/2002   162   SERVED ON: DET. TIM CAMPBELL
06/05/2002   163   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
06/05/2002   163   SERVED ON: MR. JOHN WHITAKER
06/05/2002   164   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
06/05/2002   164   LT. JAMES GRIFFITH
06/05/2002   165   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
06/05/2002   165   LT. RODNEY HARPER
06/05/2002   166   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
06/05/2002   166   SERVED ON: DET. MIKE LASSITER
06/05/2002   167   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
06/05/2002   167   SERVED ON: SARAH MILLS
06/05/2002   168   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
06/05/2002   168   SERVED ON: TYRA INGRAM
06/05/2002   169   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
06/05/2002   169   SARAH INGRAM
06/05/2002   170   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
06/05/2002   170   SERVED ON; MS. JENNIFER HEBERT
06/05/2002   171   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
06/05/2002   171   SERVED ON: MR. ED REED
06/05/2002   172   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
06/05/2002   172   SERVED ON: EVIDENCE CUSTODIAN
06/06/2002   173   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED: DONALD
06/06/2002   173   BOLAND
06/06/2002   174   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED: JED
06/06/2002   174   BEDENBAUGH
06/06/2002   175   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED UNSERVED: SARAH
06/06/2002   175   BOONE
06/07/2002   176   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED: KIM
06/07/2002   176   CLOUSE
06/07/2002   177   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED:
06/07/2002   177   CHRISTIE HARRIS ESPIE
06/07/2002   178   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY RESPONSE
06/11/2002   179   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY/WITNESS LIST
06/11/2002   180   NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
06/12/2002   181   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
06/12/2002   181   DR. HOWARD ROGERS
06/13/2002   182   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
06/13/2002   182   SERVED ON: DR. HOWARD ROGERS
06/14/2002   183   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY
06/14/2002   183   CARL ZOLEZZI. W/D FORMER PLEA AND PLEAD NOLO TO
06/14/2002   183   LESSER CHARGE OF LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS BATTERY,
06/14/2002   183   ADVISED OF 15YRS AND OR $10,000 FINE, PL ACCEPTED,
06/14/2002   183   PSI ORDERED, CASE SET FOR SENTENCING 7/19/2002 AT
06/14/2002   183   11:00 A.M. WITH JUDGE NICHOLS. STATE RECOMMENDS
06/14/2002   183   4YRS DOC FOLLOWED BY 11YRS SEX OFFENDER PROBATION,
06/14/2002   183   AND STIPULATE THAT DEFT. WILL QUALIFY FOR REGISTRATION
06/14/2002   183   AS SEXUAL PREDATOR. DEFENSE STIPULATES TO THIS, BUT DEFT
06/14/2002   183   NOT ADMITTING HE IS A SEXUAL PREDATOR! DEFT. TO REMAIN
06/14/2002   183   ON SAME BOND AND BOND CONDITIONS AS PREVIOUSLY STATED,
06/14/2002   183   STATE NOT TO FILE ANY OTHER POTENTIAL CHARGES ON
06/14/2002   183   VICTIMS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN STATED PREVIOUSLY!
06/14/2002   184   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
06/14/2002   184   SERVED ON: NURSE ELIZABETH TALGA
06/19/2002   185   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
06/19/2002   185   UNSERVED ON: MS. KIMBERLY L. HOWE
06/19/2002   186   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
06/19/2002   186   UNSERVED ON: JOYCE MILLS
06/20/2002   187   NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (07-19-2002)
06/20/2002   188   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 7/19/2002
06/27/2002   189   STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED
06/27/2002   189   UNSERVED ON: CHRISTIE HARRIS
06/27/2002   190   DEPOSITION OF: SARAH INGRAM
06/27/2002   191   DEPOSITION OF: SARAH MILLS
07/19/2002   192   SENTENCING MINUTES: COURT ORDERED CASE CONTINUED TO
07/19/2002   192   NEXT SENTENCING 07/22/2002, COURT ORDERED TRANSCRIPTS
07/19/2002   192   OF PLEA HEARING TO DETERMINE PROPER SCORING OF VICTIM
07/19/2002   192   INJURY POINTS
07/22/2002   193   PROCEEDINGS HAD ON 06/14/2002
07/22/2002   194   SCORESHEET FILED
07/22/2002   195   SENTENCING MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY CARL K ZOLEZZI
07/22/2002   195   SENTENCED AS FOLLOWS: DEFENDANT ADJUDGED GUILTY, ORDERED
07/22/2002   195   TO PAY $255 COURT COST, SENTENCED TO 4 YEARS DOC WITH
07/22/2002   195   146 DAYS CREDIT TO BE FOLLOWED BY 11 YEARS SEX OFFENDER
07/22/2002   195   PROBATION, COST OF SUPERVISION SET AT $20 PER MONTH, TO
07/22/2002   195   RECEIVE PSYCHO-SEXUAL EVALUATION AND ANY NECESSARY
07/22/2002   195   TREATMENT, DEFENDANT DESIGNATED A SEXUAL PREDATOR, NO
07/22/2002   195   VICTIM CONTACT, THE PROVISION OF SEXUAL OFFENDER
07/22/2002   195   PROBATION THAT EXISTED AT THE TIME OF THE OFFENSE APPLY
07/22/2002   195   IN THIS CASE
07/22/2002   196   JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE - ENT MIN CIR CT BK 358 PG947-955
07/22/2002   197   COMMITMENT ISSUED
07/22/2002   198   CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE AS TO JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE
07/29/2002   199   AMENDED JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE - ENT CIR CT MIN
07/29/2002   199   BK 358 PG 956-963
07/29/2002   200   CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE AS TO JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE
10/01/2002   201   LETTER FROM DALE INGRAM IN RE: DEFT. - NO ACTION
10/01/2002   201   TAKEN BY COURT
10/22/2002   202   ORDER OF SEX OFFENDER PROBATION - ENT MIN CIR CT BK
10/22/2002   202   358 PG 964-967
06/16/2003   203   MOTION TO MITIGATE SENTENCE
07/16/2003   204   NOTICE OF HEARING ON MOTION TO MITIGATE SENTENCE
07/16/2003   204   SET FOR 7/30/03 @ 2:00
07/30/2003   205   MOTION HEARING MINUTES: COURT TO DETERMINE WHETHER
07/30/2003   205   IT HAS JURISDICTION ON MOTION TO MITIGATE SENTENCE
07/02/2004   206   MOTION TO DESIGNATE CHARLES DURWOOD INGRAM A SEXUAL
07/02/2004   206   PREDATOR
07/02/2004   207   ORDER DESIGNATING CHARLES DURWOOD INGRAM A SEXUAL
07/02/2004   207   PREDATOR ENT CIR CT MIN BK PG
09/14/2004   208   $76.02 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
10/06/2004   209   $25.38 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
11/04/2004   210   $118.93 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
11/11/2004   211   $34.67 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
11/16/2004   212   MOTION TO VACATE AND DECLARE VOID ORDER DESIGNATING
11/16/2004   212   DEFENDANT A SEXUAL PREDATOR
12/02/2004   213   AMENDED ORDER DESIGNATING CHARLES DURWOOD INGRAM A
12/02/2004   213   SEXUAL PREDATOR
12/06/2004   214   CORRECTED ORDER OF SEX OFFENDER PROBATION ENT MIN CIR
12/06/2004   214   CT BK PG
04/06/2006   215   ORDER FOR PAYMENT OF FEES TO DR. UMESH MHATRE M.D.
04/11/2008   216   TECHNICAL VIOLATION NOTIFICATION LETTER
06/06/2008   217   LETTER FROM GREG KIMBALL - IN RE: DEFT'S PROBATION
10/30/2008   218   TECHNICAL VIOLATION NOTIFICATION LETTER
02/01/2010   219   MOTION FOR EARLY TERMINATION OF PROBATION
02/02/2010   220   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 03/04/2010 AT 10:00
03/04/2010   221   MOTION HEARING MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY GARRY WOOD
03/04/2010   221   MOTION FOR EARLY TERMINATION OF PROBATION - MOTION
03/04/2010   221   DENIED


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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 14, 2010, 06:26:48 PM
UCN:    542001CF001978XXAXMX
File Date:    12/13/2001
Judge:    TERRY J LARUE
Case Status:    CASE CLOSED
Defense Atty:    WOOD, GARRY L
Case File Location:   CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant:   INGRAM, CHARLES DURWOOD
Alias:   No Alias Records

Date   #   Docket Description
12/13/2001   1   COMPLAINT- PCSO- LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS BATTERY
12/13/2001   2   WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT NONE
12/14/2001   3   ARREST REPORT - CT 1-LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS BATTERY
12/14/2001   3   BOND SET AT $75,004.00 SECURED
12/14/2001   4   AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
12/17/2001   5   WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED
12/17/2001   6   $75,004.00 CHUCK'S BAIL BOND POSTED - #P125-326824
12/20/2001   7   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE AND WRITTEN PLEA OF NOT GUILTY
12/20/2001   7   FILED BY CARL K ZOLEZZI
12/20/2001   8   NOTICE OF DISCOVERY
12/20/2001   9   WAIVER OF APPEARANCE BY DEFENDANT AT PRE TRIAL
01/03/2002   10   MOTION TO DETERMINE COMPETENCY TO PROCEED
01/04/2002   11   DISPOSITION INQUIRY FROM FL DEP'T OF STATE DIVISION OF
01/04/2002   11   LICENSING
01/10/2002   12   INFORMATION (CT 1-LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS BATTERY)
01/23/2002   13   ORDER SETTING PRE TRIAL 01/31/2002
01/23/2002   14   ORDER APPOINTING EXPERTS PURSUANT TO SECTION 916.11 (1),
01/23/2002   14   AND FLORIDA RULES OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE 3.210 (B),
01/23/2002   14   3.211 (C)
01/24/2002   15   NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (01-31-2002)
01/24/2002   16   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 01/31/2002
01/25/2002   17   MOTION
01/25/2002   18   DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE
01/25/2002   19   STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
01/25/2002   20   WITNESS LIST
01/31/2002   21   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY
01/31/2002   21   CARL ZOLEZZI. ON MOTION OF DEFENSE, CASE CONTINUED TO
01/31/2002   21   PRE-TRIAL 02/28/2002. DEFENSE MOTION TO RELEASE
01/31/2002   21   DEFT. MOTION DENIED WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
02/06/2002   22   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-28-2002) IN JAIL
02/06/2002   23   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 02/28/2002
02/28/2002   24   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY
02/28/2002   24   CARL ZOLEZZI. ON MOTION OF DEFENSE, CASE CONTINUED TO
02/28/2002   24   PRE-TRIAL 03/28/2002
03/04/2002   25   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-28-2002) IN JAIL
03/04/2002   26   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 03/28/2002
03/11/2002   27   NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITIONS
03/11/2002   28   NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
03/11/2002   29   NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
03/11/2002   30   NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
03/11/2002   31   SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO:
03/11/2002   31   SARAH INGRAM TO BE TAKEN 03/19/2002 AT 1:00 P.M.
03/11/2002   32   SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO:
03/11/2002   32   SARAH MILLS TO BE TAKEN 03/19/2002 AT 2:00 P.M .
03/28/2002   33   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY
03/28/2002   33   CARL ZOLEZZI. STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUCED READY
03/28/2002   33   FOR TRIAL, CASE SET FOR TRIAL 06/17/2002
04/03/2002   34   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (06-17-2002) IN JAIL
04/03/2002   35   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 06/17/2002
04/03/2002   36   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 04/15/2002 AT 03:30 PM
04/12/2002   37   STIPULATION TO STATE'S MOTION TO TEST INDIVIDUAL
04/12/2002   37   PUSUANT TO F.S. 381.004 (3) (I)(1) OR 951.27
04/15/2002   38   ORDER- SEALED PER COURT
06/07/2002   39   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY RESPONSE
06/14/2002   40   PLEA MINUTES: DEFT. PRESENT, ATT BY CARL ZOLEZZI.
06/14/2002   40   W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO TO LESSER OF SIMPLE
06/14/2002   40   BATTERY, ADVISED OF 1YR AND OR $1000 FINE, PL
06/14/2002   40   ACCEPTED, CASE SET FOR SENTENCING 7/19/2002 AT 11:00
06/14/2002   40   A.M. WITH JUDGE NICHOLS. RECOMM. 1YR. PROBATION
06/14/2002   40   CONSECUTIVE WITH 01-1914-CF-52/
06/20/2002   41   NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (07-19-2002)
06/20/2002   42   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 7/19/2002
07/19/2002   43   SENTENCING MINUTES: COURT ORDERED CASE CONTINUED TO
07/19/2002   43   NEXT SENTENCING 07/22/2002, COURT ORDERED TRANSCRIPTS OF
07/19/2002   43   PLEA HEARING TO DETERMINE PROPER SCORING OF VICTIM
07/19/2002   43   INJURY POINTS
07/22/2002   44   SCORESHEET FILED
07/22/2002   45   SENTENCING MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY CARL K ZOLEZZI
07/22/2002   45   SENTENCED AS FOLLOWS: DEFENDANT ADJUDGED GUILTY,
07/22/2002   45   SENTENCED TO 1 YEAR PROBATION, TO RUN CONSECUTIVE TO
07/22/2002   45   01-1914-CF 52
10/14/2002   46   ORDER OF PROBATION - ENT MIN CIR CT BK 358 PG 969-972
07/02/2004   47   MOTION TO DESIGNATE CHARLES DURWOOD INGRAM A SEXUAL
07/02/2004   47   PREDATOR
07/02/2004   48   ORDER DESIGNATING CHARLES DURWOOD INGRAM A SEXUAL
07/02/2004   48   PREDATOR ENT CIR CT MIN BK PG
04/06/2006   49   ORDER FOR PAYMENT OF FEES TO DR UMESH MHATRE M.D.
02/01/2010   50   MOTION FOR EARLY TERMINATION OF PROBATION
02/02/2010   51   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 03/04/2010 AT 10:00
03/04/2010   52   MOTION HEARING MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY GARRY WOOD
03/04/2010   52   MOTION FOR EARLY TERMINATION OF PROBATION - MOTION
03/04/2010   52   DENIED


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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 14, 2010, 06:29:04 PM
UCN:    542001CF002007XXAXMX
File Date:    12/20/2001
Judge:    A W NICHOLS III
Case Status:    CASE CLOSED
Defense Atty:    
Case File Location:   RECORDS CENTER

Defendant:   INGRAM, CHARLES DURWOOD

Alias:   No Alias Records

Date   #   Docket Description
12/20/2001   1   COMPLAINT- PCSO- IMPROPER EXHIBITION OF A FIREARM
01/23/2002   2   MOTION TO TRANSFER CASE TO COUNTY COURT
01/25/2002   3   ORDER TO TRANSFER CASE TO COUNTY COURT

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 14, 2010, 06:36:42 PM
(http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/CallImage?imgID=936749)
Charles Durwood Ingram
Date Of Photo: 10/22/2009

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=38394


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 14, 2010, 07:15:05 PM
stillucy said,
in June 14th, 2010 at 5:26 pm

WhyLie: RE:Hardy’s son, IMM, I can’t remember who was blogging about the Governor’s Order but, It appears to be by order of the Governor that a special state prosecutor has been appointed effective today’s date. That’s all. Smart move by the Sheriff’s office/Prosecutor’s office to take it off their hands. IMO

http://www.bloggernews.net/124711


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 14, 2010, 09:09:12 PM
Haleigh boards are quiet as posters wait patiently for news, Donna Brock docket call tomorrow, 9AM, St. Johns Co.     about 7 hours ago  via TweetDeck 

http://twitter.com/RadioNewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 14, 2010, 09:20:26 PM
(http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/CallImage?imgID=936749)
Charles Durwood Ingram
Date Of Photo: 10/22/2009

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=38394

Looks as though Chuck is locked up.

Click Here to Track this Offender 
Designation:  Sexual Predator 
Name:  Charles Durwood Ingram 
Status:  Confinement 
Department of Corrections #:  V15493
Search the Dept of Corrections Website 
Date of Birth:  07/13/1959
Race :  White
Sex:  Male
Hair:  Black
Eyes:  Brown
Height:  5'07"
Weight:  110 lbs 
 
Ingram is registered as a Sexual Predator pursuant to Section 775.21 F.S
Positive identification cannot be established unless a fingerprint comparison is made. 
 
Aliases 
CHARLES D INGRAM 
Scars, Marks & Tattoos 
Not Available 
Address Information 
Address  Address Source Information  Map Link
Out of State
INCARCERATED, GA 00000-0000
UNKNOWN COUNTY Source: Field Intelligence

Received: 06/14/2010

Type of Address: Permanent  Address not mappable
Crime Information - Qualifying Offenses 
Adjudication Date Crime Description  Court Case Number  Jurisdiction & State Adjudication 
07/22/2002 LEWD,LASCIVIOUS CHILD U/16; F.S. 800.04 (PRINCIPAL)  0101914 PUTNAM, FL  Guilty/convict


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 14, 2010, 09:54:21 PM
Grama does Ingram live in Georgia now?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 14, 2010, 09:58:11 PM
Charles D Ingram Male | 50s 
Barrington Trace Dr SW
Atlanta, Georgia 30331 

http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=Charles%20Ingram,%20Atlanta,%20GA&g=name_pipl_scd_state01#:812415307


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 14, 2010, 10:11:55 PM
Charles D Ingram Male | 50s 
Barrington Trace Dr SW
Atlanta, Georgia 30331 

http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=Charles%20Ingram,%20Atlanta,%20GA&g=name_pipl_scd_state01#:812415307

Jersey ... appears that he is locked up in GA.  This maybe what Simon was referring to in his newest article about firearms, etc.   I did not know that he MOVED(?) ....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 14, 2010, 10:40:32 PM
Charles D Ingram Male | 50s 
Barrington Trace Dr SW
Atlanta, Georgia 30331 

http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=Charles%20Ingram,%20Atlanta,%20GA&g=name_pipl_scd_state01#:812415307

Jersey ... appears that he is locked up in GA.  This maybe what Simon was referring to in his newest article about firearms, etc.   I did not know that he MOVED(?) ....

Hmmm I dont know if he moved. I just found a Charles D Ingram in Georgia.. He does have business according to the Bondmans Court List in Putnam County even though it is in his wife name


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 14, 2010, 10:42:50 PM
Thats interesting regarding the firearms... I wonder if it had anything to do with Haleigh as the love of guns with Ron, Tommy and Joe...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 14, 2010, 10:47:33 PM
.  INGRAM, CHARLES D (Age 50)

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

 CHUCKS BAILBONDS
 CHUCKS BAILBONDS
 CHUCKS BAILBONDS
 CHUCKS BAILBONDS
 CHUCKS BAILBONDS
 CHUCKS BAILBONDS
 CHUCKS BAILBONDS
 CHUCKS BAILBONDS
 CHUCKS BAILBONDS
 CHUCKS BAILBONDS
 Available(3) Available INTERLACHEN, FL
HOLLISTER, FL
PALATKA, FL
Possible Relatives:

INGRAM, MARSHA LYNETTE (Age 64)
INGRAM, DALE (Age 47)
INGRAM, TAYRA ANGELA (Age 24)
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 14, 2010, 10:49:04 PM
63.  INGRAM, CHARLES
   Available SATSUMA, FL

Possible Relatives:

INGRAM, DALE (Age 47)


 http://www.veromi.net/Summary.asp?fn=Charles&mn=&ln=Ingram&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=&city=&state=FL&age=&vw=&Search=&Input=&x=60&y=15


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on June 14, 2010, 11:26:59 PM
Thats interesting regarding the firearms... I wonder if it had anything to do with Haleigh as the love of guns with Ron, Tommy and Joe...

My guess is not. But who knows.

O/T: JG, left you a post at: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg1160502#msg1160502

;-)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 14, 2010, 11:30:00 PM
Thats interesting regarding the firearms... I wonder if it had anything to do with Haleigh as the love of guns with Ron, Tommy and Joe...

My guess is not. But who knows.

O/T: JG, left you a post at: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg1160502#msg1160502

;-)

Going now to see what sweet message you left. ;>)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on June 14, 2010, 11:38:06 PM
Thats interesting regarding the firearms... I wonder if it had anything to do with Haleigh as the love of guns with Ron, Tommy and Joe...

My guess is not. But who knows.

O/T: JG, left you a post at: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg1160502#msg1160502

;-)

Going now to see what sweet message you left. ;>)

The last img tag needs a slash before it. ( / )


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 14, 2010, 11:42:30 PM
Thats interesting regarding the firearms... I wonder if it had anything to do with Haleigh as the love of guns with Ron, Tommy and Joe...

My guess is not. But who knows.

O/T: JG, left you a post at: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg1160502#msg1160502

;-)

Going now to see what sweet message you left. ;>)

The last img tag needs a slash before it. ( / )

Thanks Brandi..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: higherhopes on June 15, 2010, 12:42:25 AM
HH - I'm really busy over in the NH forum but could you do me a favor and stop posting crap from that Tim. H's site.  He's a nutcase.  


Oh, well excuse me, this was the only time I ever posted anything in regards to Tim H., didnt know it wasnt permitted, just saw that it was in referrence to HaLeigh and posted it so everyone could see what and idiot he was....sorry.....wont ever post anything from him again.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on June 15, 2010, 07:54:00 AM
Hi Monkey's,


R.C.'s sister had that "fixed stare" could mean absolutely nothing,

I was curious if this is the sister on this blog?  I am not trying to stir the pot, just to refresh our memories.



http://www.usleuth.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287349&page=5





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: seahorse on June 15, 2010, 08:43:16 AM
http://www.usleuth.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287349&page=5

Interesting record further down on this site.  First you will find CC (serious record if it's her) and scroll

and another record appears for a possible associate of hers.  Her record is very interesting considering we

found out GMA-S's Pop (he didn't pass away until 2002).

I apologize if I am off topic, should I take this information to GMA-Sykes thread?  Thank-you.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 15, 2010, 01:24:08 PM
(http://www.news4jax.com/2010/0210/22520352_640X360.jpg)
Donna Brock appears before a St. Johns County judge after her arrest on charges of trafficking in prescription drugs.

Misty's Friend Pleads Guilty In Drug Case
Donna Brock Faces Between 15, 30 Years In Prison

POSTED: Tuesday, June 15, 2010
UPDATED: 12:48 pm EDT June 15, 2010


PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- Donna Brock, a co-defendant of Ronald and Misty Cummings, has pleaded guilty to a drug trafficking charge.

Brock, whose sentencing is scheduled for Sept. 1, faces between 15 and 30 years in prison.

Police said surveillance video showed Brock involved in the drug trafficking.

Brock is a friend of Misty Cummings, the last person to see missing 6-year-old Haleigh Cummings in February 2009.

Ronald and Misty Cummings and Hank Croslin Jr., Misty's brother, are all being held on drug charges unrelated to the Haleigh case.

Investigators have said Haleigh is most likely dead, making it a homicide investigation.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/23905803/detail.html#


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 15, 2010, 01:26:02 PM
Bail Bondsman In Haleigh Cummings Case Under Indictment

We reported yesterday that a source had claimed that Chuck Ingram had been arrested on some gun related charge. Well we can confirm that both he and his wife were indicted on federal gun charges yesterday. We do now have copies of the indictments.  While there is no direct involvement in the Haleigh Cummings case, Chuck Ingram has been a name that keeps cropping up when discussing the bit players involved with the case.

(snip) [edit RED]

You might be surprised at what we have to say. Joining me for this special program will be WSKY 97.3 reporter and director of programming and news TJ Hart. Also joining us is a man who knows a great deal about Chuck Ingram and his operation in Palatka, William Cobra Staubs. You might be very surprised what Cobra has to say, however I have researched the ‘BOMBSHELL’ and it is absolutely factual.


http://www.bloggernews.net/124715


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 15, 2010, 01:27:20 PM
Bail Bondsman In Haleigh Cummings Case Under Indictment

[EDIT RED - snip].

I think it would be fair to say that were it not for the Haleigh Cummings case these indictments would not have occurred.

Earlier this morning some interesting background to the case against Chuck Ingram came to light.  For that reason we have decided to air a radio segment about this development at 1pm central today.

The link to listen in live is here.  http://www.blogtalkradio.com/simon-barrett/2010/06/15/haleigh-cummings-update--the-latest-sideshow

Simon Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/124715


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 15, 2010, 01:32:32 PM
Guilty plea in drug case for woman with ties to Haleigh Cummings case

She is scheduled for sentencing Sept. 1.
Posted: June 15, 2010 - 11:18am


A 44-year-old woman with connections to the case of missing Haleigh Cummings has pleaded guilty to drug trafficking in St. Johns County.

Donna M. Brock of Orlando was recorded in an undercover investigator's car with Misty Croslin, who called police when 5-year-old Haleigh disappeared in February 2009.

The two were arrested during a month long sting that resulted in the arrest of five people in separate drug buys, including Haleigh's father Ronald Cummings.

Brock and Croslin were charged with trafficking at least 28 grams of oxycodone in a sale involving 155 pills for $800 in January, according to charging documents. Today, Brock pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of trafficking in between 14 to 28 grams of the drug, according to court records.

She is scheduled for sentencing Sept. 1. The reduced charge carries a minimum mandatory sentence of 15 years, according to state guidelines.

Brock befriended Croslin during the search of Haleigh, who has still not been found and who investigators with the Putnam County Sheriff's Office have said they believe is dead.

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-06-15/story/guilty-plea-drug-case-woman-ties-haleigh-cummings-case


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 15, 2010, 01:59:14 PM
Putnam Co. Man Faces Federal Charges

www.thesky973.com
Staff Reports

 
A Putnam County man convicted of lewd and lascivious battery on a child in 2002 has been arrested on charges stemming from the possession of guns by a felon and trying to sell three pistols.

A federal grand jury indicted Charles Durwood Ingram on charges that he knowingly possessed firearms in and affected commerce after he had been convicted of a crime punishible by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year.

That same grand jury also indicted his wife, Dale Ingram for aiding and abetting him.

Ingram was the owner of Chuck's Bail Bonds, but then signed the business over to his wife after his conviction.

The ATF also alleges Ingram made a false claim by completing a sworn statement  that he sold the guns (a Hi-Point, 9 mm pistol, a Taurus  .45 caliber pistol and an Intratec .22 caliber pistol) prior to being convicted of a felony offense.

 INDICTMENT RECORDS 

 
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 15, 2010, 02:43:28 PM
(http://www.news4jax.com/2010/0210/22520352_640X360.jpg)
  justguy  says:

Boy she looks like about 10 miles of bad road! Talk about being rode hard and put up wet! YUCK

  sparkyl56  in reply to justguy
Like her face caught fire and someone put it out with an ice pick.





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 15, 2010, 05:48:37 PM
Some interesting posts regarding the PCSO here: Who Would You Vote For Sheriff Of Putnam County http://www.topix.com/forum/county/putnam-fl/TPI7GB9F8TD1E0UKR/p24



    Ridgerunner Interlachen wrote:
    DISAPOINTED W HARDY> I must tell you that I am totally behind you 110%. Jeff Hardy has LIED to the voters of Putnam Co. Yet MISTER Jeff Hardy is supposed to be a born again Christian and church goer. What a two face person he and his goonies really are. He has not balls to stand up to his command staff, and why is everything so all of a sudden quiet on the murder of Haleigh?? Somebody needs to contact Nancy Grace and do an inestigation on the PCSO and expose the whole damn bunch on national TV. As a woman, I carry my own pistol with me at all times and a dead man can't talk. So untill the PCSO gets here to help, I'll take care of things my own way.

I honestly think the clue in the Haleigh case was a cover up. Jeff had attorney's and FDLE breathing down his neck that week. What better way to relief the heat? Neighbors stated last year they told the SO of Misty being in the Shell Harbor area with a garbage. Why wasn't that clue followed up on last year? I have contacted every agency or organization that I could think of, but not Nancy Grace. Do you think she would actually research/investigate the Sheriff's Office? I am right there with you on handling things myself.

http://www.topix.com/forum/county/putnam-fl/TPI7GB9F8TD1E0UKR/post537

Ho Hum post:


If you're not in the "club", you get sh#t on down at ole PCSO...of you don't what Ryan, Parker or Bowling's asses taste like, you're on thin ice. Sad state of affairs. Good cops are forced out, while pieces of sh#t like Merchant, Greenwood, and R. Harrell are thriving What a fu#*ing shame.
http://www.topix.com/forum/county/putnam-fl/TPI7GB9F8TD1E0UKR/post555

Bubba post:

What is the deal with Hardy and Bowling taking their pastor home drunk from a bar. Is that true??? WOW!!!Smeone fill us in on that one. What about several years ago when Bowling beat that race car driver at Putnam Speedway, put him in a coma and then lied his way out of it. I know I was there. Putnam Co. needs someone like Buford Pusser to come in here and clean house. Merchant is a known dirty cop. Took payoffs from the drug dealers. Some one needs to contact the US Marshalls office. Maybe they can do something. If enought people contact the Attorney Generals office in Tallahassee, maybe then will they listen.

I met Jeff Hardy'swife at one of the rallys when he was running for sheriff. She is a first class snob. She thinks her shit don't stink. If some one would list al the facts about the SO and Hardy and send it to Tallahassee and Nancy Grace and Geraldo. He is not a fan of the PCSO anyhow. What year was it when the national Guard came in and took over Dixie Co (I think) because of all the corrupt bull shit. WOW!! that was a big blow.Somethnh needs to be done SOON>
http://www.topix.com/forum/county/putnam-fl/TPI7GB9F8TD1E0UKR/post558


    Bubba wrote:
    Merchant is a peice of crap. He is one most dishonest cops in the business. He gets more payofffs and makes more on the side than his regular paycheck. That is the story going around Putnam County. How does he keep getting away with this shit. Why won't they investigate him????


LMAO replied:
Because he knows which ones to rip off and which ones to leave alone. I heard a very interesting "story" (thats what we will call it). That him and Chris Middleton 'seized'$40,000 or so from a mexican drug dealer in cresent city. Turns out the next day he showed up at the SO with his attorney wanting his money back. Its funny the SO admin knew nothing of this money. The end of it was Middleton got kicked off of the vice unit and John got moved later on down the road. Merchant isnt all he is CRACKED UP to be. Ive personally seen what he can do.
http://www.topix.com/forum/county/putnam-fl/TPI7GB9F8TD1E0UKR/post507

Oh Well post

Merchant definitely has his own ways and means...taken off the drug unit, now working with another title within the SO.....is it having friends is high places or is he a friend to others low places???? The PCSO is a joke! Oh, and check the recent jail log. One of the PCSO's wives is listed on 8 or 9 counts for trying to obtain drugs posing as a doctor's office or a rep of a medical faciilty.....and the crap continues like a soap opera.
http://www.topix.com/forum/county/putnam-fl/TPI7GB9F8TD1E0UKR/post494


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 15, 2010, 05:57:03 PM

Chuck's Bail Bonds, Chuck's Bail Bonds Inc*
312 S State Road 19
Palatka, FL 32177-3939

Chuck's Bail Bonds is a private company categorized under Bail Bonding and located in Palatka, FL. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of $500,000 to $1 million and employs a staff of approximately 1 to 4.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 15, 2010, 06:10:49 PM
Under lined in Red.

312 S State Road 19, Palatka, Florida

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/IngramHome.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 15, 2010, 06:15:41 PM
(http://www.artharris.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/imga09501.jpg)
(http://www.artharris.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/imga0953.jpg)
(http://www.artharris.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/imga0948.jpg)
Cobra with Putnam County Det. John Merchant and FDLE investigator

With that incident in his hip pocket and what he believed new information, Cobra met up at the Bylow in Satsuma with law enforcement heavies like Putnam County Sheriff’s Det. John Merchant, lead Haleigh investigator; a Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigator and an assistant state attorney. They clustered around the ice machine outside, where Cobra showed them his files, and, he believed, won their blessing.

“They told me, ‘We don’t have anything on him, you can talk to him if you have a bond issue, that’s a civil matter.’ I said I wanted to yoke him, get him off the streets because of the Haleigh Bug incident. They didn’t seem to object. I told them what he (Snodgrass) was up to, and they seemed to nod that it sounded good.”

Law enforcement insists no one ever deputized Staubs to pay a visit to Snodgrass.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 15, 2010, 07:38:04 PM
Bail Bondsman In Haleigh Cummings Case Under Indictment – Radio Wrap

Posted on June 15th, 2010
by Simon Barrett in Society and Culture, crime

Earlier today it was clear that there was a great deal of information that was beginning to surface that were just too complex to put into an article. Our decision was to go with an impromptu radio discussion.

The panel consisted of Simon ‘Mop Head’ Barrett, that ‘unreliable’ radio reporter from Gainsville, Florida TJ Hart, and ‘Snake Man’ William Cobra Staubs. My sincere thanks go out to Cue Ball for the new names. We all thank the loyal commenter’s here on BNN for sharing this BREAKING, although somewhat bald news, I guess Cue Ball is pissed that the Rogaine didn’t take.

This morning Donna Brock was in court, and she has plead guilty to a lesser charge. One that only carries a 15 year minimum sentence. Ouch, that magic number of 15 just keeps coming up. Donna Brock, like Hope Sykes seems to have been a bit player in the saga, yet the jail terms are hitting hard and heavy.

(snip)

http://www.bloggernews.net/124717

[edit RED, please do not copy & paste entire posts]


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 15, 2010, 07:42:33 PM
Donna Brock, drug co-defendant with Misty Croslin, pleads guilty

By Cindy Swirko
Staff writer

Published: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 at 5:44 p.m.
Last Modified: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 at 5:44 p.m.

A Georgia woman who was arrested on drug charges with Misty Croslin pleaded guilty Tuesday to one count of trafficking and is set for sentencing Sept. 1.

Croslin, 18, is a key figure in the disappearance of the Putnam County girl Haleigh Cummings.

Donna Brock, 44, had been charged with one count of trafficking prescription narcotics of more than 28 grams, an offense that carries a minimum mandatory sentence of 25 years.

However, she pleaded guilty to a weight of drugs that carries a minimum mandatory sentence of 15 years, said Chris Kelly, spokesman for the Seventh Circuit State Attorney's Office.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100615/ARTICLES/100619618/1002


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 15, 2010, 07:44:53 PM
07-10-25-0000-0111-0011
INGRAM CHARLES DURWOOD + DALE H/W
140 Green Ln (Interlachen) [314]

http://www.putnam-fl.com/palookup/main.php



(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/140greenLane.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 15, 2010, 07:50:11 PM
Charles D Ingram Male | 50s 
Barrington Trace Dr SW
Atlanta, Georgia 30331 

http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=Charles%20Ingram,%20Atlanta,%20GA&g=name_pipl_scd_state01#:812415307

Jersey ... appears that he is locked up in GA.  This maybe what Simon was referring to in his newest article about firearms, etc.   I did not know that he MOVED(?) ....

I don't think this is the one JG

Ethnicity:  African-American
http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=Charles%20Ingram,%20Atlanta,%20GA&g=name_pipl_scd_state01#:812415307


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 15, 2010, 07:52:28 PM
140 Green Lane

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/140greenlnGIS.jpg)

http://www.putnam-fl.com/palookup/main.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 15, 2010, 07:54:46 PM
Charles D Ingram Male | 50s 
Barrington Trace Dr SW
Atlanta, Georgia 30331 

http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=Charles%20Ingram,%20Atlanta,%20GA&g=name_pipl_scd_state01#:812415307

Jersey ... appears that he is locked up in GA.  This maybe what Simon was referring to in his newest article about firearms, etc.   I did not know that he MOVED(?) ....

I don't think this is the one JG

Ethnicity:  African-American
http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=Charles%20Ingram,%20Atlanta,%20GA&g=name_pipl_scd_state01#:812415307

OK .. Thanks


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 15, 2010, 08:02:51 PM
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/Chucky.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 15, 2010, 08:08:30 PM
I wonder if Chucky receive guns from his fellow criminals from bonding them out and then in returned sold them..

Certain few we heard of love guns like Ron's Beretta 99mm pistol..

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/Chucky2.jpg)

http://imgsrv.thesky973.com/image/wsky/UserFiles/File/cidi1.pdf


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 15, 2010, 08:54:30 PM
Putnam Co. Man Faces Federal Charges

www.thesky973.com
Staff Reports

 
A Putnam County man convicted of lewd and lascivious battery on a child in 2002 has been arrested on charges stemming from the possession of guns by a felon and trying to sell three pistols.

A federal grand jury indicted Charles Durwood Ingram on charges that he knowingly possessed firearms in and affected commerce after he had been convicted of a crime punishible by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year.

That same grand jury also indicted his wife, Dale Ingram for aiding and abetting him.

Ingram was the owner of Chuck's Bail Bonds, but then signed the business over to his wife after his conviction.

The ATF also alleges Ingram made a false claim by completing a sworn statement  that he sold the guns (a Hi-Point, 9 mm pistol, a Taurus  .45 caliber pistol and an Intratec .22 caliber pistol) prior to being convicted of a felony offense.

 INDICTMENT RECORDS 



copy of indictment:
http://imgsrv.thesky973.com/image/ws...File/cidi1.pdf


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 15, 2010, 09:22:00 PM
Chucky Bonds Ron out..

UCN:  542002CF002133XXAXMX
File Date:  12/12/2002

12/12/2002 4 $ 2,504 CHUCK'S BAIL BOND POSTED - # 365649 

UCN:  542006MM003417XXAXMX
File Date:  08/01/2006

08/01/2006 3 $504.00 CHUCK'S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00601638 07-29-06 


http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php







Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on June 15, 2010, 09:26:20 PM
Guilty plea in drug case for woman with ties to Haleigh Cummings case
She is scheduled for sentencing Sept. 1.

(http://jacksonville.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/story_slideshow_thumb/met_DonnaBrock061510.jpg)
 By Dana Treen

A 44-year-old woman with connections to the case of missing Haleigh Cummings has pleaded guilty to drug trafficking in St. Johns County.

Donna M. Brock of Orlando was recorded in an undercover investigator's car with Misty Croslin, who called police when 5-year-old Haleigh disappeared in February 2009.

The two were arrested during a monthlong sting that resulted in the arrest of five people in separate drug buys, including Haleigh's father Ronald Cummings.

Brock and Croslin were charged with trafficking at least 28 grams of oxycodone in a sale involving 155 pills for $800 in January, according to charging documents. Today, Brock pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of trafficking in between 14 to 28 grams of the drug, according to court records.

She is scheduled for sentencing Sept. 1. The reduced charge carries a minimum mandatory sentence of 15 years, according to state guidelines.

Brock befriended Croslin during the search of Haleigh, who has still not been found and who investigators with the Putnam County Sheriff's Office have said they believe is dead.

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-06-15/story/guilty-plea-drug-case-woman-ties-haleigh-cummings-case


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 15, 2010, 09:37:06 PM
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/ChuckyIngram.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 15, 2010, 09:38:59 PM
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/ChuckyIngram.jpg)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Current Verified Address: 
FEDERAL CUSTODY
FEDERAL CUSTODY



Aliases:
CHARLES D INGRAM  CHARLES DURWOOD INGRAM 



Note: The offense descriptions are truncated and do not necessarily reflect the crime for which the offender is on supervision. Please refer to the court documents or the Florida Statutes for further information or definition.

Current Community Supervision History:
Offense Date Offense Sentence Date County Case No. Community Supervision Length
06/01/1995 L/L, INDEC.ASLT CHILD U/16 07/22/2002 PUTNAM 0101914 11Y 0M 0D 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 15, 2010, 09:41:34 PM
Heres the link.. For Chucky..


http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveOffenders/detail.asp?Bookmark=1&From=list&SessionID=960630234


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 15, 2010, 10:00:10 PM
JG, do you recall Misty or that Barbara Freeman woman in Cobra's audio tapes mentioning a friend of RC's by the name of John Barrow and guns?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 15, 2010, 10:04:32 PM
JG, do you recall Misty or that Barbara Freeman woman in Cobra's audio tapes mentioning a friend of RC's by the name of John Barrow and guns?

yea  was  it John Barton  and Linda?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 15, 2010, 10:09:49 PM
JG, do you recall Misty or that Barbara Freeman woman in Cobra's audio tapes mentioning a friend of RC's by the name of John Barrow and guns?

yea  was  it John Barton  and Linda?
Barton could be it, but someone posted Barrow on another site where I was reading yesterday, but I cannot find it now.  The poster said that this Barton/Barrow had something to do with guns and also supposedly snitched on MC & RC, but yet was to be a friend of RC.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 15, 2010, 10:11:52 PM
JG, do you recall Misty or that Barbara Freeman woman in Cobra's audio tapes mentioning a friend of RC's by the name of John Barrow and guns?

yea  was  it John Barton  and Linda?
Barton could be it, but someone posted Barrow on another site where I was reading yesterday, but I cannot find it now.  The poster said that this Barton/Barrow had something to do with guns and also supposedly snitched on MC & RC, but yet was to be a friend of RC.

Barton  snitch about the drugs..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 15, 2010, 10:14:19 PM
JG, do you recall Misty or that Barbara Freeman woman in Cobra's audio tapes mentioning a friend of RC's by the name of John Barrow and guns?

yea  was  it John Barton  and Linda?
Barton could be it, but someone posted Barrow on another site where I was reading yesterday, but I cannot find it now.  The poster said that this Barton/Barrow had something to do with guns and also supposedly snitched on MC & RC, but yet was to be a friend of RC.

Barton  snitch about the drugs..

Heart what site?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 15, 2010, 10:20:02 PM
JG, do you recall Misty or that Barbara Freeman woman in Cobra's audio tapes mentioning a friend of RC's by the name of John Barrow and guns?

yea  was  it John Barton  and Linda?
Barton could be it, but someone posted Barrow on another site where I was reading yesterday, but I cannot find it now.  The poster said that this Barton/Barrow had something to do with guns and also supposedly snitched on MC & RC, but yet was to be a friend of RC.

Barton  snitch about the drugs..

Heart what site?

One of the poster on the blogger news site. http://www.bloggernews.net/124708
But I can't find the post.  I read it yesterday.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 15, 2010, 10:37:49 PM
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/ChuckyIngram.jpg)

Jersey .. since you have the family album started ... how about a mug shot of his wife??? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 15, 2010, 10:49:26 PM
JG, do you recall Misty or that Barbara Freeman woman in Cobra's audio tapes mentioning a friend of RC's by the name of John Barrow and guns?

yea  was  it John Barton  and Linda?
Barton could be it, but someone posted Barrow on another site where I was reading yesterday, but I cannot find it now.  The poster said that this Barton/Barrow had something to do with guns and also supposedly snitched on MC & RC, but yet was to be a friend of RC.

Barton  snitch about the drugs..

Heart what site?

One of the poster on the blogger news site. http://www.bloggernews.net/124708
But I can't find the post.  I read it yesterday.

Is this the woman that was on the audio tapes with Cobra?

BARBARA  ANJEANETTE  FLOWERS
6/1/10  http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=761136&IMG=56309
5/26/10  http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=760985&IMG=56309


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 15, 2010, 10:54:25 PM
Clong said,
in June 14th, 2010 at 3:05 pm

Two points of interest in the above posts:

Barbara Flowers was locked up in Putnam County Jail after her talk with Cobra (see criminal docket for same).

Josh Imm, son of Sheriff Jeff Hardy,  has an addition dated today on his Putnam County criminal docket mentioning the Governor. Please explain if you can.



UCN: 542010CF001035XXAXMX
File Date: 05/06/2010
Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Case Status: PENDING CASE
Defense Atty:
Case File Location: CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant: IMM, JOSHUA TROY
Alias: No Alias Records

Date # Docket Description
05/06/2010 1 ARREST REPORT - PCSO DET/ D ADKISSON (ARREST 5/5/10)
05/06/2010 1 BOOKING NUMBER: 10-1942
05/06/2010 1 POSSESSION OF LISTED CHEMICALS
05/06/2010 1 SALE OF METHAMPHETAMINES
05/06/2010 1 CHILD ABUSE
05/06/2010 1 POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA
05/06/2010 1 MAINTAINING A DRUG VEHICLE
05/06/2010 2 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 5/6/10
05/06/2010 2 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING
05/06/2010 2 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
05/06/2010 2 $2504.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. I
05/06/2010 2 $2504.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. II
05/06/2010 2 $1004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. III
05/06/2010 2 $ 504.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. IV
05/06/2010 2 $ 504.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. V
05/06/2010 3 AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS
05/06/2010 4 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER AT FIRST APP HEARING
06/14/2010 5 DESIGNATION OF ASSISTANT STATE ATTORNEY
06/14/2010 6 OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR - EXECUTIVE ORDER NUMBER 10-109




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 15, 2010, 11:06:29 PM
JG, do you recall Misty or that Barbara Freeman woman in Cobra's audio tapes mentioning a friend of RC's by the name of John Barrow and guns?

yea  was  it John Barton  and Linda?
Barton could be it, but someone posted Barrow on another site where I was reading yesterday, but I cannot find it now.  The poster said that this Barton/Barrow had something to do with guns and also supposedly snitched on MC & RC, but yet was to be a friend of RC.

Barton  snitch about the drugs..

Heart what site?

One of the poster on the blogger news site. http://www.bloggernews.net/124708
But I can't find the post.  I read it yesterday.

Is this the woman that was on the audio tapes with Cobra?

BARBARA  ANJEANETTE  FLOWERS
6/1/10  http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=761136&IMG=56309
5/26/10  http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=760985&IMG=56309

I seen that arrest report and then had to go back to the cobra tapes and radio show  and I believe Cobra stated not only on the tape but on one of the radio show her l name was Barbara Freeman..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 15, 2010, 11:12:37 PM
I can't find nothing Dale Ingram.. Did she bond out?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 15, 2010, 11:17:22 PM
I can't find nothing Dale Ingram.. Did she bond out?

I checked ...Released... Imate... and Supervised.. And no Dale Ingram came up


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 15, 2010, 11:20:39 PM
ok, I'm calling it a night.  Will have to search tomorrow.  Goodnight JG!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on June 16, 2010, 01:06:58 AM

<respectfully snipped>

Josh Imm, son of Sheriff Jeff Hardy,  has an addition dated today on his Putnam County criminal docket mentioning the Governor. Please explain if you can.


06/14/2010 5 DESIGNATION OF ASSISTANT STATE ATTORNEY
06/14/2010 6 OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR - EXECUTIVE ORDER NUMBER 10-109



Since the governor seems to have appointed a special investigator... (Or did I dream that?)  And if so... could this investigator be wanting info on Sheriff Hardy, and/or the rest of the Sheriff's office, perhaps deciding to start with who else, the Sheriff's son....... who could perhaps be persuaded to spill anything he may know..... in return for a deal re his drug charges?  Would the son do that?  Roll over on his dad and fellow officers? 

Have no clue if this is what that means up there, Heart.  Just wondering. "Office of the Governor- Executive Order" sounds deadly serious tho.  Kind of makes me gulp and go ut oh....  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/unsure.gif)





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: jules3699 on June 16, 2010, 07:56:18 AM

This has probably already been posted but I just found it and what I read on this article is the same questions that have been running thru my mind since day one and throughout this whole case. 




http://www.examiner.com/x-33505-Nashville-Crime-Examiner~y2010m4d20-Dont-clear-Ronald-Cummings-just-yet


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 16, 2010, 10:33:42 AM

<respectfully snipped>

Josh Imm, son of Sheriff Jeff Hardy,  has an addition dated today on his Putnam County criminal docket mentioning the Governor. Please explain if you can.


06/14/2010 5 DESIGNATION OF ASSISTANT STATE ATTORNEY
06/14/2010 6 OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR - EXECUTIVE ORDER NUMBER 10-109



Since the governor seems to have appointed a special investigator... (Or did I dream that?)  And if so... could this investigator be wanting info on Sheriff Hardy, and/or the rest of the Sheriff's office, perhaps deciding to start with who else, the Sheriff's son....... who could perhaps be persuaded to spill anything he may know..... in return for a deal re his drug charges?  Would the son do that?  Roll over on his dad and fellow officers? 

Have no clue if this is what that means up there, Heart.  Just wondering. "Office of the Governor- Executive Order" sounds deadly serious tho.  Kind of makes me gulp and go ut oh....  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/unsure.gif)


EXECUTIVE ORDERS ARCHIVES

To view all executive orders beginning with the most recent, please press the search button without entering any information into the search fields.
http://www.flgov.com/orders_search


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 16, 2010, 10:42:28 AM
Wyks, I believe that it was handed over to the governors office in order to avoid any appearance of conflict of interest or impropriety.

See this executive order for example. http://www.flgov.com/pdfs/orders/10-80-wescott.pdf


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 16, 2010, 10:44:36 AM
Croslin co-defendant pleads to drug charge

Donna Brock arrested with Croslin in undercover sting
Posted: June 16, 2010 - 12:03am

A woman who befriended the last person to see HaLeigh Cummings alive in February 2009 is facing at least 15 years in prison after pleading Tuesday to a drug trafficking charge.

Donna Michelle Brock, 44, who was arrested with Misty Croslin in an undercover operation in January, pleaded no contest to dealing between 14 and 28 grams of oxycodone.

The first-degree felony carries a maximum punishment of 30 years in prison. It calls for a minimum mandatory sentence of 15 years and a $100,000 fine.

Brock stood unmoved with little change in expression as Assistant State Attorney Jackie Roys explained the terms of the plea offer.

Brock originally had been charged with trafficking in 28 grams to 30 kilograms of oxycodone. The minimum mandatory on that charge is 25 years and a $500,000 fine.

Defense attorney Michael P. Hines said he hoped to give the judge reasons to go below the minimum mandatory at his client's Sept. 1 sentencing.

St. Johns Circuit Judge Wendy W. Berger said she didn't believe she had the authority to do that but would research it.

She said she at least would be willing to consider anything Hines could offer to make sure the sentence stayed near 15 years.

Brock also agreed to testify truthfully against "any co-defendants" if the prosecution asks her.

That means Croslin, her only co-defendant.

Croslin, 18, is tentatively scheduled to go to trial in August on the same charge Brock originally faced -- trafficking in 28 grams to 30 kilograms of oxycodone.

She also faces another seven trafficking charges in Palatka.

Circuit Judge Terry LaRue in Palatka told her on June 3 that Aug. 16 is her "last-chance plea date" to work out a deal with the state on those charges.

Croslin was Ronald Cummings' live-in girlfriend and was babysitting for HaLeigh Cummings and her younger brother when the little girl disappeared from her father's Satsuma mobile home the night of Feb. 9, 2009.

Croslin and Cummings were married March 12, one month after the child disappeared.

They were divorced in October.

Brock has been identified as a former volunteer with Equusearch Mounted Search and Recovery in Dickinson, Texas, just northwest of Galveston. HaLeigh Cummings' family called on the group shortly after the 5-year-old child's disappearance.

Tim Miller, owner of Equusearch, later became openly critical of Croslin, insisting she knew more than she was telling investigators.

Last October, a driver on Interstate 4 called 911 last October and said the driver of a car Croslin was riding in had threatened her with a handgun as they raced down the roadway.

A Seminole County Sheriff's deputy had the car pull off at the Lake Mary exit.

Croslin and Brock were handcuffed and the car searched. They were released when no weapon was found.

Three others were also arrested during the January sting operation: Ronald Cummings; Croslin's brother, Hank Thomas "Tommy" Croslin Jr.; and Cummings' cousin, Hope A. Sykes.

Sykes was sentenced April 26 to 15 years in prison.

Tommy Croslin pleaded no contest to trafficking and drug possession on June 3. He is scheduled to be sentenced this summer.

Ronald Cummings is negotiating for a 15-year sentence on five trafficking charges in exchange for testimony at any future trial.

His ex-wife is now the only defendant left who has not pled.

Law enforcement officers have repeatedly denied that the trafficking arrests were designed as a way to put pressure on the defendants to talk about the little girl's disappearance.

http://staugustine.com/news/local-news/2010-06-16/croslin-co-defendant-pleads-drug-charge


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Wyks on June 16, 2010, 11:06:47 AM
Wyks, I believe that it was handed over to the governors office in order to avoid any appearance of conflict of interest or impropriety.

See this executive order for example. http://www.flgov.com/pdfs/orders/10-80-wescott.pdf

Ahhhh ok, that makes sense.  Thanks Heart! 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 16, 2010, 11:17:26 AM
Thank-you everyone for all the updates, it is much appreciated.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 16, 2010, 12:38:42 PM
Misty Croslin co-defendant pleads guilty

Donna Brock faces at least 15 years in prison on a prescription drug trafficking charge.

By Cindy Swirko
Staff writer

Published: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 at 6:01 a.m.
Last Modified: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 at 12:20 a.m.

A Georgia woman who was arrested on drug charges with Misty Croslin, a key figure in the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings, pleaded guilty Tuesday to one count of trafficking and is set for sentencing Sept. 1 in St. Augustine.

Donna Brock, 44, had been charged with one count of trafficking prescription narcotics of at least 28 grams, a offense that carries a minimum mandatory sentence of 25 years, said Chris Kelly, spokesman for the Seventh Circuit State Attorney's Office.

However, Brock pleaded guilty to a count that involved 14 to 28 grams and carries a minimum mandatory sentence of 15 years.

Kelly said a condition of Brock's plea agreement with prosecutors is that she testify against her co-defendants if called upon. Kelly had no other comment on the plea deal.

Brock's attorney, Michael Hines of St. Augustine, did not return a phone message Tuesday.

Haleigh disappeared from her Putnam County home in February 2009 while in the care of Croslin.

Croslin, Brock and three others were arrested in January following an undercover investigation by the Putnam County Sheriff's Office and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

Also arrested in January were Croslin's brother, Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr., 23; Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, 26, who was Croslin's boyfriend when Haleigh disappeared; and Cummings' cousin, Hope Sykes, 19.

Croslin was charged with eight counts of trafficking and Cummings with five. The others were charged with one count. Brock's count and one of Croslin's are in St. Johns County because that is where the deal occurred, police reported. The other deals occurred in Putnam County, police said.

Sykes pleaded no contest and was sentenced to 15 years in prison. Tommy Croslin pleaded no contest to his trafficking charge and an unrelated drug possession case and will be sentenced within two months.

Cummings' attorney said his client plans to enter a plea deal with prosecutors.

Brock became associated with Croslin when she was hired by the leader of Texas Equusearch, a group that searches on horseback for missing people, to try to get more information about Haleigh's disappearance.

Brock was dismissed when she became friends with Croslin, officials said.

Brock was the driver, and Croslin the passenger, in a road rage incident in October in Seminole County.

Brock was questioned but no charges were filed.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100616/ARTICLES/100619595/1002


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 16, 2010, 12:44:41 PM
Donna Brock, 44, had been charged with one count of trafficking prescription narcotics of at least 28 grams, a offense that carries a minimum mandatory sentence of 25 years, said Chris Kelly, spokesman for the Seventh Circuit State Attorney's Office.

However, Brock pleaded guilty to a count that involved 14 to 28 grams and carries a minimum mandatory sentence of 15 years.

Kelly said a condition of Brock's plea agreement with prosecutors is that she testify against her co-defendants if called upon. Kelly had no other comment on the plea deal.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100616/ARTICLES/100619595/1002


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 16, 2010, 05:51:22 PM
O/T

Lake City Doctor Arrested on Several Felony Charges

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=157507&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: BeatnicHippie on June 16, 2010, 07:20:48 PM
O/T Looks like our web thug hugger has found a new friend: John Ludwig. Look at the comments.

http://diamondclarity.wordpress.com/2010/06/16/john-ludwick-thinks-he-is-famous/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 16, 2010, 10:42:36 PM
Native Texan wrote:
    IMO, I think Ronald really needs to be evaluated mentally. I don't think he is all there. Even Leonard Padilla decided not to bail him out after offering because he felt he would go out and kill somebody and LE agreed. The dude is not right and needs some serious help. Whatever the cause, drugs/genetic, he seems to be a big bully and a threat to society. He definitely has no business raising children or producing anymore. I just hope that if he has any involvement/knowledge of Haleigh's death/disposal that it is found out and he goes down for it too along with the drugs. I think at this point, he will deny and lie and say anything and everything to save himself. I think he has been giving LE plenty of information regarding the drug users/dealers in Putnam County in hopes of aquiring all the brownie points he can. What happened to the big statement that he would have no problem doing life in prison or even the death penalty? He wasn't scared of anything on the phone or in front of the camera. Looks like he is crawfishing plenty now.

Inquiring Minds replied:

Palatka, FL

The "Grand Father of Drug Dealing" is on his side...John Merchant! What does Ron have to worry about?
http://www.topix.net/forum/county/putnam-fl/T55NSSEBJRHTRN3RF/post11

Fact wrote:
Atlanta, GA

John Merchant is a detective with the PCSO. He used to be head of the drug unit untill they moved him into another field. He is known for taking money as payoffs,He is part of the good ole boy shit wagon.
http://www.topix.net/forum/county/putnam-fl/T55NSSEBJRHTRN3RF/post15

Trotlinedesigns wrote:

Welcome to this part of Florida. Should see the Welaka Police! The Chief has been to our house drunk ON DUTY many times fishing off of out dock on Beachers Point Drive.
http://www.topix.net/forum/county/putnam-fl/T55NSSEBJRHTRN3RF/post17



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 16, 2010, 11:16:01 PM
yahyah wrote:
   
So these people that "know" are so scared of LE that there is NO one to tell??
How about NG. Or JVM. Or the AG of the USA. You mean to say that people are THAT scared of the local LE in Putnam County.
How about the Enquirer?
I believe that about as much as I believe that Misty and Tommy and Ron and EVERYONE is scared of little Joey Overstreet
.


Exposing the Truth replied:
Keystone Heights, FL

Yes, people here are that scared. I have been working on exposing them and have had no less than 4 threats from 4 different peope at different occassions. Who do you go to when no one will listen? Has it stopped me, No - will it stop me, No bu it's still there. I have called FDLE and guess what - some of them used to work here and some still live here......hmmmmm.....I have no idea what took place but based on what I know about the happenings in this anything and anyone could be involved. What a shame for that precious little girl and her brother, they are the true victims in all this and it seems somehow this has turned into a name callng circus instead of a concern for them. We are all guilty and we should step back and rethink our actions and comments - myself included

http://www.topix.net/forum/county/putnam-fl/TRF8A9KGRKDPRIA47/post82


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Red on June 17, 2010, 01:03:40 AM
To All ...

This is just a reminder. Please do not copy & paste entire posts from BNN. Post the part of the article that you wish to discuss, provide a link and then write your opinion or analysis.

It is unfair to just C&P an entire article. We battle with other crime blogs with the same issues who refuse to provide links, yet take exclusive and unique content as if it is their own.

I know that is not your intention here; however, lets make sure we maintain blog courtesy.

Thanks


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: melisb on June 17, 2010, 02:26:17 PM
O/T Looks like our web thug hugger has found a new friend: John Ludwig. Look at the comments.

http://diamondclarity.wordpress.com/2010/06/16/john-ludwick-thinks-he-is-famous/

One of Lud's friends is Alecia Dunbar?  Isn't that Ronnies old pen pal/phone buddy?  She just loves those famous idiot bad boys doesn't she?  lol  Too funny BeatnicHippie!!!



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: BeatnicHippie on June 17, 2010, 02:46:28 PM
O/T Looks like our web thug hugger has found a new friend: John Ludwig. Look at the comments.

http://diamondclarity.wordpress.com/2010/06/16/john-ludwick-thinks-he-is-famous/

One of Lud's friends is Alecia Dunbar?  Isn't that Ronnies old pen pal/phone buddy?  She just loves those famous idiot bad boys doesn't she?  lol  Too funny BeatnicHippie!!!



Yes, she is the phone buddy of Ronald. Yea, I thought so too lol. Yet, we monkeys are the crazy ones lol. Oh well, onward & upward :)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 17, 2010, 06:54:14 PM
UCN:    542009CF001653XXAXMX
File Date:    09/14/2009
Judge:    TERRY J LARUE
Case Status:    CASE CLOSED
Defense Atty:    WERTER, JAMES S
Case File Location:   CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant:   CROSLIN, HANK T JR
Alias:   No Alias Records

Date   #   Docket Description
09/14/2009   1   COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. KEN TAYLOR (8/19/09)
09/14/2009   1   BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
09/16/2009   3   ARREST REPORT: GRAND THEFT (9/15/2009)
09/16/2009   4   DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG
09/16/2009   4   ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY
09/16/2009   4   SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
09/16/2009   4   $50,000.00 SECURED BOND SET
09/16/2009   5   AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
09/16/2009   6   ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING
09/16/2009   7   WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED
09/21/2009   8   LETTER TO JUDGE HEDSTORM FROM LINDSY CROSLIN
09/24/2009   9   STIPULATION AND ORDER ON BOND
09/25/2009   10   $5004.00 (CITY BEST BAIL BOND) #2220906 (09/24/09)
09/25/2009   10   AMERICAN BANKERS INSURANCE COMPANY OF FLORIDA
10/22/2009   11   INFORMATION (GRAND THEFT (FIREARM)
10/22/2009   12   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (12/02/2009)
10/22/2009   13   NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (12/02/2009)
10/30/2009   14   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE, PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND
10/30/2009   14   APPLICATION TO THE CLERK FOR A COPY OF THE
10/30/2009   14   INDICTMENT OR INFORMATION AND THE ENDORSEMENTS
10/30/2009   14   THEREON
10/30/2009   15   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (12/02/2009)
11/06/2009   16   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (12/03/2009)
11/06/2009   17   NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (12/03/2009)
11/06/2009   18   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (12/03/2009)
12/03/2009   19   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER
12/03/2009   19   ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
12/03/2009   19   CONTINUED TO 01/14/2010
12/03/2009   20   NOTICE OF INTENT TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCOVERY
12/08/2009   21   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (01/14/2010)
12/08/2009   22   NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (01/14/2010)
01/13/2010   28   STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT, WITNESS LIST
01/13/2010   24   DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE
01/14/2010   25   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER
01/14/2010   25   CASE SET FOR PLEA DAY 02/17/2010
01/20/2010   26   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (02/17/2010)
01/20/2010   27   NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (02/17/2010)
01/22/2010   29   MOTION TO REVOKE BOND
01/22/2010   30   ORDER ON STATE'S MOTION TO REVOKE
01/26/2010   31   ORDER REVOKING BOND - DEFENDANT REMANDED TO CUSTODY
02/03/2010   32   MOTION TO TRANSFER TO DIV 52
02/03/2010   33   ORDER GRANTING MOTION TO TRANSFER TO DIV 52
02/03/2010   33   PRE-TRIAL TO BE RESET
02/22/2010   34   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL
02/22/2010   35   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)
03/31/2010   36   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER
03/31/2010   36   ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
03/31/2010   36   CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010
04/06/2010   37   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (05/13/2010) IN JAIL
04/06/2010   38   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (05/13/2010)
05/13/2010   39   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER
05/13/2010   39   STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUNCED READY FOR TRIAL
05/13/2010   39   CASE SET FOR JURY TRIAL 06/21/2010
05/13/2010   40   ORDER SETTING TRIAL AND LAST CHANCE PLEA DAY
05/13/2010   42   DEFENDANT'S WITNESS LIST
05/14/2010   41   MOTION TO DISMISS
05/17/2010   43   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (06/21/2010)
05/17/2010   44   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (06/21/2010) IN JAIL
06/03/2010   45   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 06/15/2010 AT 03:30
06/07/2010   46   DEFENDANTS WITHDRAWAL OF WITNESS
06/07/2010   47   AMENDED NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 06/15/2010 AT 03:30
06/07/2010   48   NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
06/08/2010   49   NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
06/15/2010   50   TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY JASON LEWIS,
06/15/2010   50   W/D FORMER PLEA, PLED NOLO TO THE LESSER OFFENSE OF
06/15/2010   50   TRESPASS OF OCCUPIED STRUCTURE (F.S. 810.08 2B)
06/15/2010   50   ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 1 YR PCJ &/OR $1000 FINE
06/15/2010   50   PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI WAIVED, SENTENCING -
06/15/2010   50   DEFENDANT ADJUDGED GUILTY
06/15/2010   50   172 DAYS PCJ WITH 172 DAYS CREDIT
06/15/2010   50   $283 FINE AND COST
06/15/2010   50   $50 COST OF PROSECUTION
06/15/2010   50   $50.00 LAW ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATIVE COST
06/15/2010   50   ALL COSTS ENTERED AS A CIVIL LIEN
06/15/2010   51   FINGERPRINTS OF DEFENDANT
06/15/2010   52   SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED:
06/15/2010   52   M J MARTIN


http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 17, 2010, 07:03:49 PM
UCN:    542010CF000147XXAXMX
File Date:    01/21/2010
Judge:    TERRY J LARUE
Case Status:    SENTENCING
Defense Atty:    WERTER, JAMES S
Case File Location:   CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant:   CROSLIN, HANK T JR

Alias:   No Alias Records

Date   #   Docket Description
01/21/2010   1   COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (12/22/09)
01/21/2010   1   BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
01/21/2010   1   TRAFFICKING OXYCODONE
01/21/2010   2   WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $100,000.00
01/22/2010   3   ARREST REPORT: TRAFFICKING IN OXYCODONE (1/20/10)
01/22/2010   4   MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE OF
01/22/2010   4   BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S
01/22/2010   4   RELEASE ON BAIL ("NEBBIA HEARING")
01/22/2010   5   ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
01/22/2010   5   OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL ("NEBBIA HEARING")
01/22/2010   5   PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S RELEASE ON BAIL
01/22/2010   6   ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO ST JOHNS COUNTY FROM
01/22/2010   6   PUTNAM COUNTY, FLORIDA
01/22/2010   7   WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED
02/03/2010   8   INFORMATION - TRAFFICKING IN OXYCODONE (4G - 14G)
02/03/2010   9   MOTION TO TRANSFER TO DIV 52
02/03/2010   10   ORDER TRANSFERRING CASE TO DIV 52
02/03/2010   11   MOTION TO CONSOLIDATE FOR TRIAL
02/09/2010   12   ORDER TO CONSOLIDATE
02/09/2010   13   MOTION AND ORDER TO TRANSPORT
02/09/2010   13   03/05/2010 ST JOHNS COUNTY
02/09/2010   14   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE AND APPLICATION TO THE CLERK FOR
02/09/2010   14   A COPY OF THE INDICTMENT OR INFORMATION AND THE
02/09/2010   14   ENDORSEMENTS THEREON FILED BY: JAMES S WERTER (FAX)
02/09/2010   15   NOTICE OF INTENT TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCOVERY (FAX)
02/10/2010   16   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE AND APPLICATION TO THE CLERK FOR
02/10/2010   16   A COPY OF THE INDICTMENT OR INFORMATION AND THE
02/10/2010   16   ENDORSEMENTS THEREON FILE BY:JAMES S WERTER (ORIGINAL)
02/10/2010   17   NOTICE OF INTENT TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCOVERY(ORIGINAL)
02/16/2010   18   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE AND PLEA OF NOT GUILTY AND
02/16/2010   18   APPLICATION TO THE CLERK FOR A COPY OF THE INDICTMENT
02/16/2010   18   OR INFORMATION AND THE ENDORSEMENTS THEREON
02/16/2010   18   FILED BY:JAMES S WERTER (FAX)
02/16/2010   19   ORDER TO TRANSPORT RETURNED UNEXECUTED - CASE
02/16/2010   19   CONTINUED TO 03/31/2010
02/18/2010   20   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE AND PLEA OF NOT GUILTY AND
02/18/2010   20   APPLICATION TO THE CLERK FOR A COPY OF THE INDICTMENT
02/18/2010   20   OR INFORMATION AND THE ENDORSEMENTS THEREON
02/18/2010   20   FILED BY: JAMES WERTER (ORIGINAL)
03/01/2010   21   STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
03/01/2010   22   WITNESS LIST
03/01/2010   23   DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE
03/11/2010   24   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
03/12/2010   25   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL
03/12/2010   26   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)
03/29/2010   27   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
03/31/2010   28   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER
03/31/2010   28   ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
03/31/2010   28   CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010
04/07/2010   29   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (05-13-2010) IN JAIL
04/07/2010   30   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (05-13-2010)
05/13/2010   31   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER
05/13/2010   31   ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
05/13/2010   31   CONTINUED TO 06/03/2010
05/17/2010   32   NOTICE OF INTENT TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCOVERY
05/18/2010   33   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (06-03-2010)
05/18/2010   34   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (06-03-2010) IN JAIL
06/03/2010   35   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER
06/03/2010   35   W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO A/C TO TRAFFICKING IN
06/03/2010   35   HYDROCODONE (4G-14G)
06/03/2010   35   ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 30YRS DOC &/OR $15000 FINE
06/03/2010   35   PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI ORDERED, SENTENCING SET 07/06/2010
06/03/2010   36   REQUEST FOR PSI
06/08/2010   37   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-06-2010)
06/08/2010   38   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-06-2010) IN JAIL
06/14/2010   39   NOTICE RETURNED UNEXECUTED (NOT IN OUR JAIL)
06/15/2010   40   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST


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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 17, 2010, 07:07:10 PM
UCN:    542010CF000164XXAXMX
File Date:    01/22/2010
Judge:    EDWARD E HEDSTROM
Case Status:    PENDING CASE
Defense Atty:    WERTER, JAMES S
Case File Location:   CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant:   CROSLIN, HANK T JR

Alias:   No Alias Records

Date   #   Docket Description
01/22/2010   1   COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. L SMITH (1/19/10)
01/22/2010   1   BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
01/22/2010   1   BURGLARY OF DWELLING
01/22/2010   1   GRAND THEFT
01/22/2010   2   WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $5,004.00 TJL
01/22/2010   2   BOND SET AT $2,504.00
01/26/2010   3   WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED
01/26/2010   4   FIRST APPEARANCE FORM
01/26/2010   5   ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO ST JOHNS COUNTY
01/26/2010   5   FROM PUTNAM COUNTY
01/26/2010   6   MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE OF
01/26/2010   6   BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS
01/26/2010   6   RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
01/26/2010   7   ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF
01/26/2010   7   SOURCE OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL (NEBBIA HEARING)
01/26/2010   7   PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS RELEASE ON BAIL
01/28/2010   8   DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG
01/28/2010   8   ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING
01/28/2010   8   SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
01/28/2010   8   CT I - $5004 AND CT II $2504 SECURED BOND SET
01/28/2010   8   ADD ON CHARGES
05/17/2010   9   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE AND APPLICATIO TO THE CLERK FOR
05/17/2010   9   COPY OF THE INDICTMENT OR INFORMATION AND THE
05/17/2010   9   ENDORSEMENTS THEREON FILED BY: JAMES S WERTER
05/25/2010   10   AMENDED NOTICE OF INTENT TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCOVERY

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: NCSunny on June 17, 2010, 07:08:04 PM
TY Heart and all Monkeys for all the updates !


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 17, 2010, 07:24:16 PM
UCN:    542010CF000253XXAXMX
File Date:    02/03/2010
Judge:    TERRY J LARUE
Case Status:    TRIAL
Defense Atty:    SHOEMAKER, TERRY J
Case File Location:   CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant:   CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES

Alias:   No Alias Records

Date   #   Docket Description
02/03/2010   1   COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO/DET T CAMPBELL 1-19-10
02/03/2010   1   BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
02/03/2010   2   INFORMATION - TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (14G-28G)
02/03/2010   3   CAPIAS REQUEST FORM - BOND $150,000 NATIONWIDE
02/03/2010   4   CAPIAS ISSUED - BOND SET AT $150,000 NATIONWIDE
02/04/2010   5   ARREST REPORT - TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (14G -28G)
02/04/2010   5   ARREST DATE:02/03/2010
02/04/2010   5   BOOKING NUMBER:10-0276
02/04/2010   6   DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG
02/04/2010   6   ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING
02/04/2010   6   SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
02/04/2010   6   $150,000 SECURED BOND SET
02/04/2010   7   CAPIAS RETURNED EXECUTED
02/10/2010   8   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER
02/10/2010   9   NOTICE OF DISCOVERY
02/10/2010   10   STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
02/10/2010   11   WITNESS LIST
02/10/2010   12   DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE
02/11/2010   13   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-18-2010) IN JAIL
02/11/2010   14   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (02-18-2010)
02/17/2010   15   WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT, PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND
02/17/2010   15   FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY:TERRY J SHOEMAKER (FAX)
02/17/2010   17   FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY:TERRY J SHOEMAKER (ORIGINAL)
02/18/2010   16   ORDER SETTING CASE FOR PRETRIAL 03/31/2010
02/19/2010   17   WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT, PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND
02/23/2010   18   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL
02/23/2010   19   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)
03/03/2010   20   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
03/17/2010   21   NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY
03/29/2010   22   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
03/31/2010   23   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY SHOEMAKER
03/31/2010   23   ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
03/31/2010   23   CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010
04/07/2010   24   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (05-13-2010) IN JAIL
04/07/2010   25   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (05-13-2010)
04/26/2010   26   MOTION TO REDUCE BOND
05/06/2010   27   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:30 PM
05/06/2010   27   MOTION TO REDUCE BOND
05/06/2010   28   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:00 PM
05/06/2010   28   STATE'S MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
05/06/2010   28   OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S
05/06/2010   28   RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
05/07/2010   29   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:30 PM
05/07/2010   29   DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO REDUCE BOND
05/07/2010   30   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:00 PM
05/07/2010   30   STATE'S MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
05/07/2010   30   OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S
05/07/2010   30   RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
05/07/2010   31   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (BOND)
05/10/2010   32   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (NEBBIA HEARING)
05/10/2010   33   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (ORIGINAL) (NEBBIA)
05/11/2010   34   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (BOND)
05/13/2010   35   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY
05/13/2010   35   STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUNCED READY FOR TRIAL
05/13/2010   35   CASE SET FOR JURY TRIAL 07/19/2010
05/13/2010   36   ORDER SETTING TRIAL 07/19/2010
05/28/2010   37   LETTER FROM ANNETTE SYKES
06/07/2010   38   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-19-2010)
06/07/2010   39   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-19-2010) IN JAIL
06/15/2010   40   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 17, 2010, 07:38:06 PM
UCN:    542010CF000146XXAXMX
File Date:    01/21/2010
Judge:    TERRY J LARUE
Case Status:    TRIAL
Defense Atty:    SHOEMAKER, TERRY J
Case File Location:   CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant:   CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES

Alias:   No Alias Records

Date   #   Docket Description
01/21/2010   1   COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (1/12/10)
01/21/2010   1   BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
01/21/2010   1   TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE
01/21/2010   2   WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $100,000.00
01/22/2010   3   ARREST REPORT - 1/20/2010
01/22/2010   3   BOOKING NUMBER: 10-00276
01/22/2010   3   BOND SET AT $100,000.00
01/22/2010   4   ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO FLAGLER COUNTY
01/22/2010   4   FROM PUTNAM COUNTY, FLORIDA
01/22/2010   5   MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
01/22/2010   5   OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS
01/22/2010   5   RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
01/22/2010   6   ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
01/22/2010   6   OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL (NEBBIA HEARING)
01/22/2010   6   PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS RELEASE ON BAIL
01/22/2010   7   FELONY WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED
02/03/2010   8   INFORMATION - TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (4G - 14G)
02/03/2010   9   MOTION TO CONSOLIDATE FOR TRIAL
02/05/2010   10   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER
02/05/2010   11   NOTICE OF DISCOVERY
02/09/2010   12   ORDER TO CONSOLIDATE
02/10/2010   13   STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
02/10/2010   14   WITNESS LIST
02/10/2010   15   DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE
02/11/2010   16   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-18-2010) IN JAIL
02/11/2010   17   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (02-18-2010)
02/17/2010   18   WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT,PLEA OF NOT GUILT,AND DEMAND FOR
02/17/2010   18   JURY TRIAL FILED BY:TERRY J SHOEMAKER
02/18/2010   19   ORDER SETTING CASE FOR PRETRIAL 03/31/2010
02/19/2010   20   WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT,PLEA OF NOT GUILTY,AND DEMAND
02/19/2010   20   FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER
02/23/2010   21   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL
02/23/2010   22   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)
03/03/2010   23   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
03/17/2010   24   NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY
03/29/2010   25   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
03/31/2010   26   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER
03/31/2010   26   ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
03/31/2010   26   CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010
04/07/2010   27   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (05-13-2010) IN JAIL
04/07/2010   28   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (05-13-2010)
04/26/2010   29   MOTION TO REDUCE BOND
05/06/2010   30   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:30 PM
05/06/2010   30   MOTION TO REDUCE BOND
05/06/2010   31   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:00 PM
05/06/2010   31   STATE'S MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
05/06/2010   31   OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S
05/06/2010   31   RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
05/07/2010   32   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:30 PM
05/07/2010   32   DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO SET BOND (FAX)
05/07/2010   33   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:00 PM
05/07/2010   33   STATE'S MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
05/07/2010   33   OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S
05/07/2010   33   RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING) (FAX)
05/07/2010   34   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (BOND)
05/10/2010   35   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (NEBBIA HEARING)
05/10/2010   36   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (ORIGINAL) (NEBBIA)
05/11/2010   37   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (ORIGINAL) (BOND)
05/13/2010   38   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY SHOEMAKER
05/13/2010   38   STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUNCED READY FOR TRIAL
05/13/2010   38   CASE SET FOR JURY TRIAL 07/19/2010
05/13/2010   39   ORDER SETTING TRIAL 07/19/2010
05/28/2010   40   LETTER FROM ANNETTE SYKES
06/07/2010   41   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-19-2010)
06/07/2010   42   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-19-2010)
06/15/2010   43   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 17, 2010, 07:40:41 PM
UCN:    542010CF000145XXAXMX
File Date:    01/21/2010
Judge:    TERRY J LARUE
Case Status:    TRIAL
Defense Atty:    SHOEMAKER, TERRY J
Case File Location:   CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant:   CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES

Alias:   No Alias Records

Date   #   Docket Description
01/21/2010   1   COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (1/13/10)
01/21/2010   1   BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
01/21/2010   1   TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE MORE THAN 14 GRAMS LESS
01/21/2010   1   THAN 28 GRAMS

01/21/2010   2   WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $150,000.00
01/22/2010   3   ARREST REPORT - 1/20/2010
01/22/2010   3   BOOKING NUMBER: 10-00276
01/22/2010   3   BOND SET AT $150,000.00
01/22/2010   4   ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO FLAGLER COUNTY
01/22/2010   4   FROM PUTNAM COUNTY, FLORIDA
01/22/2010   5   MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
01/22/2010   5   OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS
01/22/2010   5   RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
01/22/2010   6   ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF
01/22/2010   6   SOURCE OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL (NEBBIA HEARING)
01/22/2010   6   PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS RELEASE ON BAIL
01/22/2010   7   FELONY WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED
02/03/2010   8   INFORMATION - TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (14G - 28G)
02/03/2010   9   MOTION TO CONSOLIDATE FOR TRIAL
02/05/2010   10   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER
02/05/2010   11   NOTICE OF DISCOVERY
02/09/2010   12   ORDER TO CONSOLIDATE
02/10/2010   13   STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
02/10/2010   14   WITNESS LIST
02/10/2010   15   DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE
02/11/2010   16   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-18-2010) IN JAIL
02/11/2010   17   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (02-18-2010)
02/17/2010   18   WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT,PLEA OF NOT GUILTY,AND DEMAND
02/17/2010   18   FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER (FAX)
02/18/2010   19   ORDER SETTING CASE FOR PRETRIAL 03/31/2010
02/19/2010   20   WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT,PLEA OF NOT GUILTY,AND DEMAND
02/19/2010   20   FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER (ORIGINAL)
02/23/2010   21   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL
02/23/2010   22   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)
03/03/2010   23   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
03/17/2010   24   NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY
03/31/2010   25   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER
03/31/2010   25   ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
03/31/2010   25   CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010
04/07/2010   26   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (05-13-2010) IN JAIL
04/07/2010   27   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (05-13-2010)
04/26/2010   28   MOTION TO REDUCE BOND
05/06/2010   29   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:30 PM
05/06/2010   29   MOTION TO REDUCE BOND
05/06/2010   30   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:00 PM
05/06/2010   30   STATE'S MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
05/06/2010   30   OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S
05/06/2010   30   RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
05/07/2010   31   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING
05/07/2010   32   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:00 PM
05/07/2010   32   ISSUED TO: TERRY J SHOEMAKER
05/07/2010   33   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:30 PM
05/07/2010   33   DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO REDUCE BOND
05/10/2010   34   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (FAX)
05/10/2010   35   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (ORIGINAL)
05/11/2010   36   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING
05/13/2010   37   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER
05/13/2010   37   STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUNCED READY FOR TRIAL
05/13/2010   37   CASE SET FOR JURY TRIAL 07/19/2010
05/13/2010   38   ORDER SETTING TRIAL 07/19/2010
05/28/2010   39   LETTER FROM ANNETTE SYKES
06/07/2010   40   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-19-2010)
06/07/2010   41   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-19-2010)
06/15/2010   42   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 17, 2010, 07:43:35 PM
UCN:    542010CF000144XXAXMX
File Date:    01/21/2010
Judge:    TERRY J LARUE
Case Status:    TRIAL
Defense Atty:    SHOEMAKER, TERRY J
Case File Location:   CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant:   CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES

Alias:   No Alias Records

Date   #   Docket Description
01/21/2010   1   COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (1/14/10)
01/21/2010   1   BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
01/21/2010   1   TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE MORE THAN 28 GRAMS
01/21/2010   2   WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $250,000.00
01/22/2010   3   ARREST REPORT - 1/20/2010
01/22/2010   3   BOOKING NUMBER: 10-00276
01/22/2010   3   BOND SET AT $250,000.00
01/22/2010   4   ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO FLAGLER COUNTY
01/22/2010   4   FROM PUTNAM COUNTY, FLORIDA
01/22/2010   5   MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE OF
01/22/2010   5   BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS
01/22/2010   5   RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
01/22/2010   6   ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
01/22/2010   6   OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL (NEBBIA HEARING)
01/22/2010   6   PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS RELEASE ON BAIL
01/22/2010   7   ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO FLAGLER COUNTY
01/22/2010   7   FROM PUTNAM COUNTY, FLORIDA
01/22/2010   8   MOTION FOR PROTECTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
01/22/2010   8   OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS
01/22/2010   8   RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
01/22/2010   9   ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
01/22/2010   9   OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL (NEBBIA HEARING)
01/22/2010   9   PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS RELEASE ON BAIL
01/22/2010   10   FELONY WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED
02/03/2010   11   INFORMATION - TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (28G - 30KG)
02/03/2010   12   MOTION TO CONSOLIDATE FOR TRIAL
02/05/2010   13   NOTICE OF APPEARNCE FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER
02/05/2010   14   NOTICE OF DISCOVERY
02/09/2010   15   ORDER TO CONSOLIDATE
02/10/2010   16   STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
02/10/2010   17   WITNESS LIST
02/10/2010   18   DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE
02/11/2010   19   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-18-2010) IN JAIL
02/11/2010   20   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (02-18-2010)
02/17/2010   21   WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT,PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND
02/17/2010   21   FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER (FAX)
02/18/2010   22   ORDER SETTING CASE FOR PRETRIAL 03/31/2010
02/19/2010   23   WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENE,PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND
02/19/2010   23   FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER (ORIGINAL)
02/23/2010   24   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL
02/23/2010   25   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)
03/03/2010   26   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
03/17/2010   27   NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY
03/29/2010   28   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
03/31/2010   29   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER
03/31/2010   29   ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
03/31/2010   29   CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010
04/07/2010   30   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (05-13-2010) IN JAIL
04/07/2010   31   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (05-13-2010)
04/26/2010   32   MOTION TO REDUCE BOND
05/06/2010   33   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:30 PM
05/06/2010   33   MOTION TO REDUCE BOND
05/06/2010   34   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:00 PM
05/06/2010   34   STATE'S MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
05/06/2010   34   OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S
05/06/2010   34   RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
05/07/2010   35   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (FAX)(BOND HEARING)
05/10/2010   36   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING(FAX)(NEBBIA HEARING)
05/10/2010   37   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (ORIGINAL)(NEBBIA)
05/10/2010   38   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (ORIGINAL)(BOND)
05/13/2010   39   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER
05/13/2010   39   STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUNCED READY FOR TRIAL
05/13/2010   39   CASE SET FOR JURY TRIAL 07/19/2010
05/13/2010   40   ORDER SETTING TRIAL DATE 07/19/2010 AND LAST CHANCE
05/13/2010   40   PLEA DAY 07/09/2010
05/21/2010   41   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-19-2010) IN JAIL
05/21/2010   42   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-19-2010)
05/28/2010   43   LETTER FROM ANNETTE SYKES
06/15/2010   44   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 18, 2010, 12:28:28 PM
A pic with Peggy Cone in it:
http://www.dotphoto.com/go.asp?l=palatka&AID=5678196&IID=208532980


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on June 18, 2010, 12:59:29 PM
A pic with Peggy Cone in it:
http://www.dotphoto.com/go.asp?l=palatka&AID=5678196&IID=208532980

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image46-1.png)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 18, 2010, 01:20:04 PM
140 Green Lane

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/140greenlnGIS.jpg)

http://www.putnam-fl.com/palookup/main.php

Approximately  6.5 mi,  11 minutes from John Merchants residence in Interlachen.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 18, 2010, 01:38:29 PM
O/T

US yanks license of Mich.-based drug wholesaler

The government said Tuesday it suspended the license of a Michigan-based drug wholesaler after finding many customers in Florida were in illegal schemes to peddle powerful painkillers.

He said 39 of Harvard Drug's top 50 pharmacy purchasers were in southern Florida.

MORE... http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/jun/18/us-yanks-license-of-mich-based-drug-wholesaler/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 18, 2010, 06:48:03 PM
Haleigh Cummings & Caylee Anthony – BNN Radio Sun Jun/20

It is clear that those people close to the Haleigh Cummings case that they are not celebrating the ‘Sweet Sixteen’, rather they are saying ‘ok I will plead out ant take the Frightful Fifteen’. Of the five partners in the Satsuma pill popping crime, three have accepted deals, each one has scored the same magic number, 15 years behind bars.

15 years is a great deal of time to serve on a non violent pill popping charge. Rush Limbaugh managed to get away with a slap on the wrist. As have many other famous and rich people.

Are we seeing a two tier justice system?

more...  http://www.bloggernews.net/124735


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 18, 2010, 08:09:43 PM
The Truth Hurts
Scientists question voice-based lie detection

http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feature/id/60356/title/The_Truth_Hurts


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 18, 2010, 10:18:41 PM
Is this Cobra's connection to the case.  Is it possible????  Well, anything is possible with this group.

Watch this video ... and you will see a pic of Sykes .. now tell me .. does she not look like 'Cobra' ...this is the pic with her head in the middle of the screen ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AtyFL_1Ig4&feature=related


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 19, 2010, 12:12:58 PM
JG, do you recall Misty or that Barbara Freeman woman in Cobra's audio tapes mentioning a friend of RC's by the name of John Barrow and guns?

I found this so far on John Barrows.. I dont know it this is true or let alone this site.


» Bail Bondsman In Haleigh Cummings Case Under Indictment …
Jan Barrett said,in June 15th, 2010 at 12:55 pm For the record Tobyimo is not Jaba but he was in here using another name before. So Tobyimo if you would like to email me and explain to me why you felt it necessary to change your …. John Barrow was also selling guns and was a friend of Rons. hmmm. Maybe he rolled on Chuck too? jmo. KeepItReal said,. in June 15th, 2010 at 2:58 pm. This Chuck Ingram, the bail bondsman in this article..well, he scares the yahoo out of me! … …read more…

http://www.hkstud.com/2010-john-email-contacts-yahoo.php



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 19, 2010, 12:25:43 PM
I am really getting pissed now.. I say no plea deals for anyone sitting in Jail until and they come out and say the truth what happened to Haleigh.

And I was reading up on Bail Bondsmans and how was it that Chuck bailbonds was allowed to do business in Putnam County they had to know they were illegal in the way they were doing business.  I also found out they are cracking down on bail bondsman..ex.

September 22, 2009 by Collateral Staff   
Posted in: Bail Buzz

Florida bail agent Joseph Houston is already due in court next month to face charges of soliciting bail business inside the jail and will also be facing charges of allowing a employing a felon and allowing  an unlicensed agent to write bail. Houston, along with employee Juanita Williams, are accused of depositing money into inmates’ commisary accounts.

http://www.collateralmag.com/index.php?s=florida

June 14, 2010 by Collateral Staff   
Posted in: Bail Buzz

RALEIGH, NC –The North Carolina Department of Insurance has announced the arrest of two bondsmen, Jamie Rebecca Taylor, and Anthony Taylor, who are married and in business together. The arrest comes after allegation that Jamie Taylor used two unlicensed bondsmen, her husband and a man named Ricky Thomas, to apprehend a suspect. The two bondsmen have been released on $500 bonds each and a warrant has been issued for Thomas. In the past two years, The North Carolina Department of Insurance has reported a 66% increase in unlicensed bail agents and has stated that it will be cracking down on offenders.

http://www.collateralmag.com/bond-agent-duo-arrested/


http://www.collateralmag.com/florida-bail-agent-faces-additional-criminal-charges/

 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 19, 2010, 01:47:30 PM
Jersey, think this is the guy your lookig for.  Do a search there was chatter about him and Linda back in May.

John Wayne Barton........the John and Linda that Misty refers to, Linda's brother supposedly works for PCSO. Misty states, good friends of Ron's...Hank Sr. states, Barton co-operated with LE to have his gun charges lessened.

Defendant
BARTON, JOHN WAYNE
Alias
BARTON, WAYNE JOHN


Date # Docket Description
2007-04-16 1 COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. EDGAR (4/15/2007)

2007-04-16 1 SEXUAL BATTERY

2007-04-16 1 ROBBERY

2007-04-16 2 WARRANT ISSUED - NO BOND EEH

2007-04-17 3 ARREST REPORT - I - SEXUAL BATTERY II - ROBBERY -

2007-04-17 3 BOND SET AT NO BOND

2007-04-17 4 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG

2007-04-17 4 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY

2007-04-17 4 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND

2007-04-17 4 BOND SET AT NO BOND

2007-04-17 5 FELONY WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED

2007-04-17 6 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY

2007-04-17 7 APPLICATION AND ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER

2007-04-20 8 STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:

2007-04-20 8 JENNIFER KAYTREN WORD

2007-05-01 9 STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED UNSERVED:

2007-05-01 9 JENNIFER KAYTREN WORD

2007-05-30 10 MOTION TO RELEASE DEFENDANT ON OWN RECOGNIZANCE

2007-05-31 11 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 06/08/2007 AT 09:30 AM

2007-06-08 12 ORDER SETTING UNSECURED BOND IN THE AMOUNT OF

2007-06-08 12 $10,004.00

2007-06-11 13 APPEARANCE BOND - UNSECURED $10,004.00

2007-10-11 14 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION TO ALL COUNTS

More about John Barton

Defendant
BARTON, JOHN WAYNE
Alias
BARTON, WAYNE JOHN


Date # Docket Description
2007-05-30 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO/ SANDERS 01-21-07

2007-05-30 1 ORGANIZED SCHEME TO DEFRAUD

2007-05-30 1 PETIT THEFT

2007-06-20 2 MOTION TO TRANSFER CASE TO COUNTY COURT

2007-06-20 3 ORDER GRANTING MOTION TO TRANSFER CASE TO COUNTY COURT

2007-06-20 3 FROM CIRCUIT COURT 07-1068CF 53

2007-07-02 4 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION TO (CT 01 ONLY)

2007-07-20 5 INFORMATION (PETIT THEFT)

2007-07-20 6 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (08/23/2007) CERTIFIED

2007-07-25 7 NOTICE RETURNED EXECUTED

2007-08-23 8 ARR MIN: DEFT PRES, ADJ INS P D APPT VIVIAN SINGLETON

2007-08-23 8 ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY - PRE TRIAL SET 09/19/2007

2007-08-23 9 AFFIDAVIT OF INDIGENT STATUS

2007-08-23 9 DEFENDANT ADJUDGED INDIGENT

2007-08-23 9 $40.00 APPLICATION FEE IMPOSED

2007-08-23 10 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER

2007-08-23 11 PRE-TRIAL ORDER (09-19-2007)

2007-09-19 12 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY KATHRYN RADTKE

2007-09-19 12 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE

2007-09-19 12 CONTINUED TO 10/17/2007

2007-09-19 13 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (10-17-2007) IN COURT

2007-10-17 14 PRE-TRIAL MINUTES - DEFT PRES, ATT BY KATHRYN R RADTKE

2007-10-17 14 ASST P D - W-DREW FORMER PLEA - ENT PLEA OF NOLO

2007-10-17 14 CONTENDERE TO PETIT THEFT - DEFT SWORN, PLEA ACCEPTED

2007-10-17 14 DEFENDANT ADJUDGED GUILTY

2007-10-17 14 $294.00 FINE AND COST

2007-10-17 14 $ 40.00 PUBLIC DEFENDER APPLICATION FEE

2007-10-17 14 $ 50.00 COST OF PROSECUTION

2007-10-17 14 $200.00 RESTITUTION TO BONNIE PACE

2007-10-17 15 WRITTEN PLEA OF GUILTY OR NOLO CONTENDERE TO

2007-10-17 15 CRIMINAL CHARGES IN COUNTY COURT

2007-10-17 16 FINGERPRINTS OF DEFENDANT

2007-10-31 17 ORDER OF PROBATION

2008-09-23 18 $ 70.00 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE 08/30/2008

2008-09-25 19 SUCCESSFUL TERMINATION OF PROBATION

2008-10-21 20 $264.00 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE 09/19/2008

Checked the three year jail log for BARTON ... This is what comes up.

Appears to be the same person ... Middle name maybe misspelled ...

BARTON JOHN WYNN 7/30/1980 M W 200700001763 4/16/2007 5:27:28 PM
BARTON JOHN WYNN 7/30/1980 M W 09-00106 1/8/2009 6:56:00 PM
BARTON JOHN WYNN 7/30/1980 M W 09-04242 10/14/2009 8:38:19 PM

This is the 09-00106

JOHN WYNN BARTON
Pomona Park , FL
Booking Date & Time: 1/8/2009 6:56:00 PM - Booking#: 09-00106
Release Date & Time: 2/5/2009 8:50:00 PM
DOB: 7/30/1980 - RACE: W - SEX: M


Charges Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
812.019-1 STOLEN PROP-DEAL IN F S $2,504.00 2/5/2009 8:51:25 PM
790.23-1a POSSESSION OF WEAPON OR AMMO BY CONVICTED FLA FELON F S $2,504.00 2/5/2009 8:50:56 PM
$5,008.00

The first one....

JOHN WYNN BARTON
Pomona Park , FL
Booking Date & Time: 4/16/2007 5:27:28 PM - Booking#: 200700001763
Release Date & Time: 6/8/2007 7:00:48 PM
DOB: 7/30/1980 - RACE: W - SEX: M


Charges Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
794.011-4a CT1- SEXUAL BATTERY (NO PHYSICAL FORCE) F $10,004.00 6/8/2007 6:57:42 PM
812.13-2c CT2- ROBBERY F $10,004.00 6/8/2007 6:58:29 PM
$20,008.00







 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 19, 2010, 03:14:21 PM
Thanks Grama.. I am remember now.. So many players..
The snitch is Ron's friend.. I check the criminal records for John  Barton and the list is long.

His many criminal arrests start from 2001. Here are a few samples..

 Details:

UCN:  542001CF001027XXAXMX
File Date:  07/10/2001
Judge:  WILLIAM A PARSONS 
Case Status:  CASE CLOSED 
Defense Atty:   
Case File Location: RECORDS CENTER

Defendant: BARTON, JOHN WAYNE 
Alias: BARTON, WAYNE JOHN
 

Date # Docket Description
07/10/2001 1 ARREST REPORT - PCSO- C STALLINGS- BATTERY-FELONY 

07/10/2001 1 BOND SET AT $ 504 SECURE 

07/10/2001 2 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY 

07/10/2001 3 APPLICATION AND ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER 

07/10/2001 4 $ 504 CHUCK'S BAIL BOND POSTED - # 301404 
08/14/2001 5 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION 

File Date:  08/01/2001
Judge:  WILLIAM A PARSONS 
Case Status:  CASE CLOSED 
Defense Atty:   
Case File Location: RECORDS CENTER

Defendant: BARTON, JOHN WAYNE 
Alias: BARTON, WAYNE JOHN
 

Date # Docket Description
08/01/2001 1 COMPLAINT- WELAKA PD- BURGLARY OF CONVEYANCE,PETIT THEFT 

08/14/2002 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION 

UCN:  542006CF000569XXAXMX
File Date:  03/10/2006
Judge:  EDWARD E HEDSTROM 
Case Status:  CASE CLOSED 
Defense Atty:   
Case File Location: RECORDS CENTER

Defendant: BARTON, JOHN WAYNE 
Alias: BARTON, WAYNE JOHN
 

Date # Docket Description
03/10/2006 1 COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. P CONE (2/20/06) 

03/10/2006 1 LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS BATTERY 

10/11/2007 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION TO ALL COUNTS 


http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php









Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 19, 2010, 05:12:38 PM
(http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedImages/Stories/Local/operation-pain-killer-drug-bust-06031.jpg)
06/03/10 - Around 20,000 prescription pills are seized in a four-county drug bust.

 Thousands Of Pills Seized In 4-County Painkiller Bust

Friday, June 04, 2010 6:55:09 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/6/3/thousands_of_pills_seized_in_4county_painkiller_bust.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 20, 2010, 07:10:35 PM
Donna Brock
St. Johns Co. trafficking charge       

Date Event Judge Location Result
6/21/2010 9:00:00 AM FELONY JURY TRIAL BERGER, WENDY W Courtroom 328


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 20, 2010, 09:23:57 PM
Donna Brock
St. Johns Co. trafficking charge       

Date Event Judge Location Result
6/21/2010 9:00:00 AM FELONY JURY TRIAL BERGER, WENDY W Courtroom 328

Guilty plea in drug case for woman with ties to Haleigh Cummings case
She is scheduled for sentencing Sept. 1.




By Dana Treen

A 44-year-old woman with connections to the case of missing Haleigh Cummings has pleaded guilty to drug trafficking in St. Johns County.

Donna M. Brock of Orlando was recorded in an undercover investigator's car with Misty Croslin, who called police when 5-year-old Haleigh disappeared in February 2009.

The two were arrested during a monthlong sting that resulted in the arrest of five people in separate drug buys, including Haleigh's father Ronald Cummings.

Brock and Croslin were charged with trafficking at least 28 grams of oxycodone in a sale involving 155 pills for $800 in January, according to charging documents. Today, Brock pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of trafficking in between 14 to 28 grams of the drug, according to court records.

She is scheduled for sentencing Sept. 1. The reduced charge carries a minimum mandatory sentence of 15 years, according to state guidelines.

Brock befriended Croslin during the search of Haleigh, who has still not been found and who investigators with the Putnam County Sheriff's Office have said they believe is dead.

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-06-15/story/guilty-plea-drug-case-woman-ties-haleigh-cummings-case


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 20, 2010, 10:28:35 PM
O/T - Sorry but don't know where to put this

www.bloggernews.net

Have You Seen This Man? Family Pleads for Help in Finding Him
Posted on June 20th, 2010 by Jan Barrett and read 356 times.

This coming Thursday, June 24th will make one full year since 26 year old Zachary D. Pittman disappeared. Zachary was born November 29, 1983. According to reports given he was last seen at his home at 35333 Mockingbird Loop after a dispute from a member of his family in Pearl River, Louisiana on June 24th ....more


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 21, 2010, 07:46:57 AM
UF lab examined remains in search for Haleigh Cummings
Experts determined a bone wasn't of the missing girl, but was a Native American's

Last Modified: Sunday, June 20, 2010 at 11:46 p.m.
( page of 3 )

As it turns out, human remains were found in the St. Johns River by law enforcement scuba divers searching for Haleigh Cummings in April - but they weren't those of the missing 5-year-old.



They were a lot older, as in an American Indian who lived along the river hundreds of years ago - a determination made by the experts in bones at the University of Florida's C.A. Pound Human Identification Lab.

"Those divers found a human bone, it just wasn't (Haleigh)," said Mike Warren, the lab's director. "You dive in a river with that many people, and you expect to find bones out there. The bones of Native Americans are still here."

Bones are Warren's business. He heads a laboratory that is a national leader in the identification of human remains and is on pace to become the first nationally accredited and certified forensic anthropology lab in the U.S.

The lab has been involved in high-profile criminal cases including those of Haleigh and Caylee Anthony - the Orlando 3-year-old whose mother is facing murder charges in her death. It also has been involved in cases of international significance in trying to identify remains of the family of Russia's last czar, Nicholas Romanov.

And Warren says he has memorized the dental structure of Tiffany Sessions, a University of Florida student who disappeared in 1989, so he can easily identify her should remains be found.

But standing in a long, narrow, brightly lit lab with table after table laid out with human remains, Warren said the staff and students who work there pay just as much attention to the unidentified skeleton that has been stumbled upon in the woods as they do to the sensational cases that are on television every night.

"We treat all of our cases as high-profile cases," Warren said. "They are still the remains of somebody who had family."

A human body has 206 bones - more or less in some cases - and Warren can identify all of them. So adept is Warren that he can pick out the most minute ear bone from the ashy remains of a cremated person.

The lab receives human remains that are skeletonized, decomposed or are burned or fragmented beyond recognition.

A skeleton analysis is done to develop a biological profile - gender, approximate age, race. Anomalies are noted - any bones that had been broken, dental features, evidence of disease.

The report will be given to law enforcement, which will try to match the findings to an unidentified missing person.

For three days in mid-April, dozens of divers and deputies from several area agencies searched for remains of Haleigh off a boat ramp in the St. Johns River. Among the daily convoy of vehicles was a small, white pickup with decals identifying the Pound lab.

Most of what the divers found was easily identified, most notably a deer skeleton that was erroneously reported to be a human skeleton by some television media.

Warren said identifying and determining the age of human bones or fragments is not difficult for Pound staff.

"We look at bones for thousands and thousands and thousands of hours. We know what every little piece of human bone looks like. If I can't recognize it, it's not human," Warren said. "A lot of it is an experience type of thing. There are some twists - if you don't smell any decomposition, you could put a flame under (a bone) and if you smell hair burning, that means there is collagen in the blood. In Florida, that takes about a year to leech out."

Warren said the lab was involved with earlier searches for Haleigh, including unearthing a horse carcass on a relative's property to ensure that no human bones were there.

Putnam County Sheriff's Lt. Johnny Greenwood said having the lab nearby is a big asset to law enforcement, saving local agencies time and money.

"They are very helpful to be able to identify bones very quickly to eliminate us from having to take the time to send them off to a lab," Greenwood said. "When they do respond to a scene, it expedites the search. You can rule out animal bones very quickly."

The Gainesville Police Department and the Alachua County Sheriff's Office are chipping in $14,000 each in drug seizure money to buy the lab equipment for dental X-rays.

GPD Sgt. Martin Krpan, who heads the forensic unit, said the lab has assisted GPD in several cases. In one, lab employees were able to determine the angle at which a bullet struck a man's head to rule that he died from a self-inflicted wound.

Lab Graduate Analyst Traci Van Deest, holding a reasonably fresh-looking skull, pointed to a thin crack in the jaw - evidence of some sort of trauma. It is that kind of detail that helps police and provides the thrill of the find that forensic anthropologists dig.

"The challenge of figuring out the puzzle - putting all of the pieces back together as a skeleton - is something that I think we all enjoy," Van Deest said. "We know that there is an answer that we can strive for."

http://www.ocala.com/article/20100621/ARTICLES/6211007/1402/NEWS?Title=UF-lab-examined-remains-in-search-for-Haleigh-Cummings


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: NCSunny on June 21, 2010, 08:49:34 AM
UF lab examined remains in search for Haleigh Cummings
Experts determined a bone wasn't of the missing girl, but was a Native American's

Last Modified: Sunday, June 20, 2010 at 11:46 p.m.
( page of 3 )

As it turns out, human remains were found in the St. Johns River by law enforcement scuba divers searching for Haleigh Cummings in April - but they weren't those of the missing 5-year-old.



They were a lot older, as in an American Indian who lived along the river hundreds of years ago - a determination made by the experts in bones at the University of Florida's C.A. Pound Human Identification Lab.

"Those divers found a human bone, it just wasn't (Haleigh)," said Mike Warren, the lab's director. "You dive in a river with that many people, and you expect to find bones out there. The bones of Native Americans are still here."

Bones are Warren's business. He heads a laboratory that is a national leader in the identification of human remains and is on pace to become the first nationally accredited and certified forensic anthropology lab in the U.S.

The lab has been involved in high-profile criminal cases including those of Haleigh and Caylee Anthony - the Orlando 3-year-old whose mother is facing murder charges in her death. It also has been involved in cases of international significance in trying to identify remains of the family of Russia's last czar, Nicholas Romanov.

And Warren says he has memorized the dental structure of Tiffany Sessions, a University of Florida student who disappeared in 1989, so he can easily identify her should remains be found.

But standing in a long, narrow, brightly lit lab with table after table laid out with human remains, Warren said the staff and students who work there pay just as much attention to the unidentified skeleton that has been stumbled upon in the woods as they do to the sensational cases that are on television every night.

"We treat all of our cases as high-profile cases," Warren said. "They are still the remains of somebody who had family."

A human body has 206 bones - more or less in some cases - and Warren can identify all of them. So adept is Warren that he can pick out the most minute ear bone from the ashy remains of a cremated person.

The lab receives human remains that are skeletonized, decomposed or are burned or fragmented beyond recognition.

A skeleton analysis is done to develop a biological profile - gender, approximate age, race. Anomalies are noted - any bones that had been broken, dental features, evidence of disease.

The report will be given to law enforcement, which will try to match the findings to an unidentified missing person.

For three days in mid-April, dozens of divers and deputies from several area agencies searched for remains of Haleigh off a boat ramp in the St. Johns River. Among the daily convoy of vehicles was a small, white pickup with decals identifying the Pound lab.

Most of what the divers found was easily identified, most notably a deer skeleton that was erroneously reported to be a human skeleton by some television media.

Warren said identifying and determining the age of human bones or fragments is not difficult for Pound staff.

"We look at bones for thousands and thousands and thousands of hours. We know what every little piece of human bone looks like. If I can't recognize it, it's not human," Warren said. "A lot of it is an experience type of thing. There are some twists - if you don't smell any decomposition, you could put a flame under (a bone) and if you smell hair burning, that means there is collagen in the blood. In Florida, that takes about a year to leech out."

Warren said the lab was involved with earlier searches for Haleigh, including unearthing a horse carcass on a relative's property to ensure that no human bones were there.

Putnam County Sheriff's Lt. Johnny Greenwood said having the lab nearby is a big asset to law enforcement, saving local agencies time and money.

"They are very helpful to be able to identify bones very quickly to eliminate us from having to take the time to send them off to a lab," Greenwood said. "When they do respond to a scene, it expedites the search. You can rule out animal bones very quickly."

The Gainesville Police Department and the Alachua County Sheriff's Office are chipping in $14,000 each in drug seizure money to buy the lab equipment for dental X-rays.

GPD Sgt. Martin Krpan, who heads the forensic unit, said the lab has assisted GPD in several cases. In one, lab employees were able to determine the angle at which a bullet struck a man's head to rule that he died from a self-inflicted wound.

Lab Graduate Analyst Traci Van Deest, holding a reasonably fresh-looking skull, pointed to a thin crack in the jaw - evidence of some sort of trauma. It is that kind of detail that helps police and provides the thrill of the find that forensic anthropologists dig.

"The challenge of figuring out the puzzle - putting all of the pieces back together as a skeleton - is something that I think we all enjoy," Van Deest said. "We know that there is an answer that we can strive for."

http://www.ocala.com/article/20100621/ARTICLES/6211007/1402/NEWS?Title=UF-lab-examined-remains-in-search-for-Haleigh-Cummings

Wow, TY Nut. That was really interesting. I  knew they had found bones and am glad that they weren't Haleigh's.  Good to know that a bone expert is near.

I am still holding out that she may still be alive.

:insert angel Monkey here:


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 21, 2010, 08:49:46 AM
Thanks Nut!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 21, 2010, 12:02:45 PM
Police: Bone Found In River Not Haleigh's

Putnam County Investigators Searched River In April For Missing Girl


POSTED: Monday, June 21, 2010
UPDATED: 11:44 am EDT June 21, 2010

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- Putnam County investigators said a human bone that was found in the St. Johns River in April did not belong to Haleigh Cummings.

The bone is that of a long-dead Native American, according to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office. Investigators said the discovery is not that unusual, given the number of Native American burial grounds in Putnam County.

The determination was made by the Forensic Anthropology lab at the University of Florida, according to the Sheriff's Office.

Investigators searched the river for several days in April in connection with the Haleigh case. They said they found two cinder blocks, which were sent to a lab to be tested.

At the time, Sheriff Jeff Hardy said Haleigh, the 5-year-old girl who disappeared from her Satsuma home in February 2009, was likely dead, and the investigation had moved from a missing person case to a homicide investigation.

Misty Cummings, Haleigh's former stepmother and the last person investigators said saw Haleigh the night she vanished, was seen at the river being questioned by investigators during their search.

Investigators said they got a tip that led them to the Shell Harbour Road Boat Ramp, a place they had not searched before. Sources have told Channel 4 the tip came from Hank Croslin Jr., Cummings' brother.

Misty Cummings, Hank Croslin Jr. and Ronald Cummings, Haleigh's father, are all in jail on drug charges unrelated to the Haleigh case.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/23976333/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 21, 2010, 12:24:12 PM
Now I wonder what if anything else was found of HaLeigh's during the St. John's River search that would have made Sheriff Hardy declare the area a crime scene and and change the case into a homicide.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on June 21, 2010, 02:12:51 PM
http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=134578&catid=81

Haleigh Cummings: Bone found not hers

PUTNAM COUNTY, Florida -- Putnam County investigators said a human bone that was found in the St. Johns River in April did not belong to Haleigh Cummings.

The bone is that of a long-dead Native American, according to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office. Investigators said the discovery is not that unusual, given the number of Native American burial grounds in Putnam County.

The determination was made by the Forensic Anthropology lab at the University of Florida, according to the Sheriff's Office.

Investigators searched the river for several days in April in connection with the Haleigh case. They said they found two cinder blocks, which were sent to a lab to be tested, WJXT-TV reported.

At the time, Sheriff Jeff Hardy said Haleigh, the 5-year-old girl who disappeared from her Satsuma home in February 2009, was likely dead, and the investigation had moved from a missing person case to a homicide investigation.

Misty Cummings, Haleigh's former stepmother and the last person investigators said saw Haleigh the night she vanished, was seen at the river being questioned by investigators during their search.

Investigators said they got a tip that led them to the Shell Harbour Road Boat Ramp, a place they had not searched before. Sources have told WJXT that the tip came from Hank Croslin Jr., Cummings' brother.

Misty Cummings, Hank Croslin Jr. and Ronald Cummings, Haleigh's father, are all in jail on drug charges unrelated to the Haleigh case.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 21, 2010, 03:36:35 PM
Putnam Police: Human Bone Recovered from St. Johns River, Doesn't Belong to Haleigh Cummings

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- The Putnam County Sheriff's Office today released a statement about a human bone recovered during an April 2010 underwater search at the boat ramp on Shell Harbor Road.

The release said a human bone was recovered, but through lab testing it was determined that the bone is most likely that of a Native American.

Mike Warren, a certified forensic anthropologist, said it's not uncommon to find bones belonging to Native Americans in the St. Johns River area due to the large number that once settled there.

Haleigh Cummings disappeared from her father's home in Satsuma in Putnam County in February 2009. She was 5. Searches have turned up nothing in her case. The sheriff's office said Haleigh's case is still considered an active criminal investigation.

"Just because we have not found it now, doesn't mean we won't in the future," said Putnam County Lt. Johnny Greenwood.

If you know any information that could help investigators, please call Crime Stoppers at 1-888-277-TIPS (8477). You can remain anonymous and could receive a cash reward.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=157660&catid=3


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 21, 2010, 03:39:11 PM
Searches have turned up nothing in her case. 

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=157660&catid=3


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 21, 2010, 04:26:59 PM
RANDY  DEAN  BIEGENWALD
PALATKA,  FL

Booking Date & Time: 6/21/2010 2:00:00 PM   - Booking#: 10-02642
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 3/28/1978 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
900.04   CONTEMPT OF COURT    N   N    $1,000.00    
800.04-5c1   LEWD LASCV BEHAVIOR VICTIM IS LESS 12 YOA OFFNDR LESS THAN 18YOA   F   S    $10,004.00    
800.04-4a   SEX OFFENSE VICTIM 12 YOA UP TO 15 YOA   F   S    $15,004.00    
                $26,008.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=761468&IMG=30602


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 21, 2010, 04:36:21 PM
RANDY  DEAN  BIEGENWALD
PALATKA,  FL

Booking Date & Time: 6/21/2010 2:00:00 PM   - Booking#: 10-02642
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 3/28/1978 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
900.04   CONTEMPT OF COURT    N   N    $1,000.00    
800.04-5c1   LEWD LASCV BEHAVIOR VICTIM IS LESS 12 YOA OFFNDR LESS THAN 18YOA   F   S    $10,004.00    
800.04-4a   SEX OFFENSE VICTIM 12 YOA UP TO 15 YOA   F   S    $15,004.00    
                $26,008.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=761468&IMG=30602
05/13/2010   27   ATTEMPTED SEXUAL BATTERY ON PERSON LESS THAN 12 YOA
05/13/2010   27   CT II NOLLE PROSEQUI
05/13/2010   27   ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 30 YRS DOC &/OR $15000 FINE
05/13/2010   27   PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI WAIVED, SENTENCING SET 07/06/2010
05/17/2010   28   NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (07/06/2010)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 21, 2010, 05:20:41 PM
Bone found near Satsuma not Haleigh's

Sheriff says discovery in April is most likely Native American
Posted: June 21, 2010 - 3:09pm
By Dan Scanlan

A human bone found in the St. Johns River during the April search off a boat ramp near Satsuma did not belong to missing 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings, according to Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy.

During the April search of the river near the Shell Harbor ramp, divers did recover a bone. Reviewed by Mike Warren, a forensic anthropologist at the University of Florida’s C.A. Pound Human Identification Laboratory, determined it to be human.

But Warren’s investigation showed the bone is most likely from a Native American, many of whom once lived in the area, and not that of the 5-year-old girl, missing since February 2009, Haleigh, her 4-year-old brother and Misty Croslin were asleep in a Satsuma mobile home when the girl vanished while her father was at work, authorities were told. The boat ramp where divers searched in April was close to where Croslin’s parents lived on Magnolia Drive before Haleigh disappeared.

The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office received numerous requests for information and interviews after a story published Monday in the Gainesville Sun reported Warren’s findings about the bone being human. The sheriff clarified the information later Monday, emphasizing the bone was old and not recent to clear up any misunderstandings.

The sheriff said the case is still considered an active criminal investigation, so specific information regarding items recovered during searches cannot be discussed at this time.

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-06-21/story/bone-found-near-satsuma-not-haleighs


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 21, 2010, 05:59:20 PM
 RadioNewz
 
Haleigh Cummings coverage coming up at 6pm on news4jax... thanks LFlorida!!! Link for news... http://bit.ly/12K2br 8 minutes ago via TweetDeck

http://twitter.com/RadioNewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 21, 2010, 06:11:16 PM
 RadioNewz
 
Annette Sykes rolls on news4jax with they can call it a homicide case, but Haleigh is a missing child case .... betta keep lookin.... etc..

http://twitter.com/RadioNewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 21, 2010, 06:20:04 PM
Police: Bone Found In River Not Haleigh's

Putnam County Investigators Searched River In April For Missing Girl

POSTED: Monday, June 21, 2010
UPDATED: 6:05 pm EDT June 21, 2010

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- Putnam County investigators said a human bone that was found in the St. Johns River in April did not belong to Haleigh Cummings.

The bone is that of a long-dead Native American, according to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office. Investigators said the discovery is not that unusual, given the number of Native American burial grounds in Putnam County.

The determination was made by forensic anthropologist Mike Warren, the director of the C.A. Pound Human Identification Laboratory at the University of Florida, according to the Sheriff's Office.

Investigators searched the river for several days in April in connection with the Haleigh case. They said they found two cinder blocks, which were sent to a lab to be tested.

At the time, Sheriff Jeff Hardy said Haleigh, the 5-year-old girl who disappeared from her Satsuma home in February 2009, was likely dead, and the investigation had moved from a missing person case to a homicide investigation. In a news release Monday, the Sheriff's Office said the case is still considered an active criminal investigation.

Haleigh's family said they never once believed the girl's body would be found in the river.

"She's out there somewhere alive," said Annette Sykes, Haleigh's great-grandmother. "Unless they can prove to me she's not, then this family is looking for a live little girl."

"Every day is about finding Haleigh," said Theresa Neves, Haleigh's grandmother. "You get up in the morning and pray this is the day, and you go to bed each night and pray."

Neves said she told Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, that the bone found by investigators was not Haleigh's.

"He's glad that everyone knows that the bones aren't Haleigh's," Neves said.

Misty Cummings, Haleigh's former stepmother and the last person investigators said saw Haleigh the night she vanished, was seen at the river being questioned by investigators during their search.

Investigators said they got a tip that led them to the Shell Harbor Road Boat Ramp, a place they had not searched before. Sources have told Channel 4 the tip came from Hank Croslin Jr., Cummings' brother.

Misty Cummings, Hank Croslin Jr. and Ronald Cummings, Haleigh's father, are all in jail on drug charges unrelated to the Haleigh case.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/23976333/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 21, 2010, 06:33:32 PM
Haleigh Cummings Case Update

2010-6-21 by: Lt. Johnny Greenwood

The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office has received numerous requests for information and interviews regarding the article published in the Gainesville Sun this morning (6/21). Mike Warren, the Director of the C. A. Pound Human Identification Lab at the University of Florida, released information that a human bone was found during the underwater search at the boat ramp on Shell Harbor Road which was conducted in April, 2010. Sheriff Hardy realizes the importance of keeping the public informed in this case. Even though it has been a firm policy during the Haleigh Cummings investigation not to discuss items recovered during searches, he asked that clarification on this article be released to clear up any misunderstandings.

During the search of the St. Johns River near the Shell Harbor Boat Ramp, a bone was recovered. The bone was identified by Mike Warren, a certified forensic anthropologist, as belonging to a human. Due to Warren’s expertise, he was quickly able to determine that the bone did not belong to Haleigh Cummings, and was most likely that of a Native American. Uncovering bones belonging to Native Americans is not uncommon in this area due to the large number of Native Americans that once settled here.       

The Haleigh Cummings case is still considered an active criminal investigation. Specific information regarding items recovered during searches, or the details of forensic examinations, cannot be discussed at this time. Members of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office will not be participating in any formal interviews or providing statements regarding this information.

http://www.pcso.us/2010-6-21-a


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 21, 2010, 07:30:57 PM
With their lifestyle and associations.. You just never know...

UCN:  542007MM003273XXAXMX
File Date:  08/07/2007
Judge:  PETER T MILLER 
Case Status:  CASE CLOSED 
Defense Atty:   
Case File Location: CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant: BIEGENWALD, RANDY DEAN 
Alias: No Alias Records

Date # Docket Description
08/07/2007 1 ARREST REPORT - PCSO/ ROE (ARREST 08-06-07) 

08/07/2007 1 POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA 

08/07/2007 1 POSSESSION OF CANNABIS LESS THAN 20 GRAMS 

08/07/2007 2 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY 

08/07/2007 3 $504.00 CHUCK'S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00675612 08-07-07 

08/07/2007 4 $504.00 CHUCK'S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00675613 08-07-07 

08/23/2007 5 INFORMATION (COUNT I - POSS OF CANNABIS NOT 

08/23/2007 5 MORE THAN 20 GRAMS) (COUNT II - POSS OF PARAPHERNALIA 

08/23/2007 5 -USE-) 

08/23/2007 6 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (09/18/2007) 

09/18/2007 7 ARR MIN: DEFT PRES IN COURT WAIVING RIGHT TO COUNSEL 

09/18/2007 7 ARR ENT PLEA OF NOLO CONTENDERE TO CT I - POSS OF 

09/18/2007 7 CANNABIS LESS THAN 20 GRAMS - CT II - POSS OF PARA 

09/18/2007 7 (USE) - NOLLE PROSEQUI - DEFT SWORN, PLEA ACCEPTED 

09/18/2007 7 COURT WITHHELD ADJUDICATION OF GUILT 

09/18/2007 7 PROBATION HRDS 1 YEAR 

09/18/2007 7 $341.50 FINE AND COST 

09/18/2007 7 $ 50.00 COST OF PROSECUTION 

09/18/2007 7 $ 15.00 TO THE ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE TRUST FUND 

09/18/2007 7 25 HOURS COMMUNITY SERVICE 

09/18/2007 7 RANDOM DRUG TEST 

09/18/2007 8 WAIVER OF COUNSEL 

09/18/2007 9 WRITTEN PLEA OF GUILTY OR NOLO CONTENDERE TO 

09/18/2007 9 CRIMINAL CHARGES IN COUNTY COURT 

09/27/2007 10 ORDER OF PROBATION 

01/29/2008 11 $ 45.00 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE 11/02/2007 

02/27/2008 12 $ 45.00 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE 01/18/2008 

04/24/2008 13 $ 40.00 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE 03/27/2008 

08/26/2008 14 $226.50 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE 07/24/2008 

08/27/2008 15 SUCCESSFUL TERMINATION OF PROBATION 






Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 21, 2010, 07:31:29 PM
Details:

UCN:  542009CF001442XXAXMX
File Date:  08/06/2009
Judge:  TERRY J LARUE 
Case Status:  SENTENCING 
Defense Atty:  MACQUEEN, WILLIAM A 
Case File Location: CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant: BIEGENWALD, RANDY DEAN 
Alias: No Alias Records

Date # Docket Description
08/06/2009 1 ARREST REPORT - DET JULIE WALKER 8-5-09 (COPY) 

08/06/2009 1 BOOKING NUMBER: 09-03217 

08/06/2009 1 CAPITAL SEXUAL BATTERY 

08/06/2009 1 LEWD AND LASCIVIOUS MOLESTATION 

08/06/2009 2 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 

08/06/2009 2 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY 

08/06/2009 2 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND - NO BOND 

08/06/2009 3 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY 

09/23/2009 4 MOTION FOR RELEASE 

10/01/2009 5 INFORMATION 

10/01/2009 5 SEXUAL BATTERY ON PERSON LESS THAN 12 YEARS OF AGE 

10/01/2009 5 LEWD/LASCIVIOUS MOLEST PRSN 18 YOA/OLDER VIC.<12 YOA 

10/20/2009 6 AMENDED INFORMATION 

10/20/2009 6 SEXUAL BATTERY ON PERSON LESS THAN 12 YEARS OF AGE 

10/20/2009 6 LEWD/LASCIVIOUS MOLEST PRSN 18 YOA/OLDER VIC.<12 YOA 

10/20/2009 7 ORDER DISMISSING MOTION TO RELEASE DEFENDANT 

10/29/2009 8 ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, SWORN, ARRAIGNED, 

10/29/2009 8 PUBLIC DEFENDER APPOINTED, ENTERED PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, 

10/29/2009 8 SET FOR PRE TRIAL 12/10/2009. 

10/29/2009 9 AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS 

10/29/2009 10 PRE-TRIAL ORDER (12-10-2009) 

10/29/2009 11 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER 

10/29/2009 12 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (12-10-2009) IN JAIL 

11/20/2009 13 MOTION TO SET BOND 

11/24/2009 14 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 12/22/2009 AT 10:30 

12/10/2009 15 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY V SINGLETON 

12/10/2009 15 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE 

12/10/2009 15 CONTINUED TO 01/14/2010 

12/15/2009 16 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (01-14-2010) IN JAIL 

12/22/2009 17 MOTION HEARING MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JOHN 

12/22/2009 17 STEPHENSON; MOTION TO SET BOND - MOTION GRANTED 

12/22/2009 17 BOND SET AT CT.I - $15,004 SECURED; CT.II - $10,004 

12/22/2009 17 SECURED; 10 PM - 6 AM CURFEW DAILY; TO RESIDE AT AT 

12/22/2009 17 626 KIRBY STREET, PALATKA,FL; GPS MONITORING 

12/22/2009 17 NO CONTACT WITH JENNIFER TUCKER OR J.H. DIRECT; 

12/22/2009 17 INDIRECT OR 3RD PARTY 

12/28/2009 18 $10004.00 A-1-24 HOUR CITY BEST BAIL BONDS #2224972 

12/28/2009 19 $15004.00 A-1-24 HOUR CITY BEST BAIL BONDS #2197723 

12/28/2009 19 AMERICAN BANKERS INSURANCE CO 

12/31/2009 20 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (01-14-2010) 

01/14/2010 21 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY V SINGLETON 

01/14/2010 21 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE 

01/14/2010 21 CONTINUED TO 03/05/2010 

01/25/2010 22 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (03-05-2010) 

03/05/2010 23 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY BILL MACQUEEN 

03/05/2010 23 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE 

03/05/2010 23 CONTINUED TO 03/31/2010 

03/10/2010 24 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (03-31-2010) 

03/31/2010 25 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY BILL MACQUEEN, 

03/31/2010 25 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE 

03/31/2010 25 CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010 

04/06/2010 26 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (05/13/2010) 

05/13/2010 27 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY BILL MACQUEEN 

05/13/2010 27 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO TO THE LESSER CT I 

05/13/2010 27 ATTEMPTED SEXUAL BATTERY ON PERSON LESS THAN 12 YOA 

05/13/2010 27 CT II NOLLE PROSEQUI 

05/13/2010 27 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 30 YRS DOC &/OR $15000 FINE 

05/13/2010 27 PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI WAIVED, SENTENCING SET 07/06/2010 

05/17/2010 28 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (07/06/2010) 




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 21, 2010, 07:36:00 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on June 21, 2010, 08:13:19 PM
Haleigh Cummings Case Update

2010-6-21 by: Lt. Johnny Greenwood

The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office has received numerous requests for information and interviews regarding the article published in the Gainesville Sun this morning (6/21). Mike Warren, the Director of the C. A. Pound Human Identification Lab at the University of Florida, released information that a human bone was found during the underwater search at the boat ramp on Shell Harbor Road which was conducted in April, 2010. Sheriff Hardy realizes the importance of keeping the public informed in this case. Even though it has been a firm policy during the Haleigh Cummings investigation not to discuss items recovered during searches, he asked that clarification on this article be released to clear up any misunderstandings.

During the search of the St. Johns River near the Shell Harbor Boat Ramp, a bone was recovered. The bone was identified by Mike Warren, a certified forensic anthropologist, as belonging to a human. Due to Warren’s expertise, he was quickly able to determine that the bone did not belong to Haleigh Cummings, and was most likely that of a Native American. Uncovering bones belonging to Native Americans is not uncommon in this area due to the large number of Native Americans that once settled here.       

The Haleigh Cummings case is still considered an active criminal investigation. Specific information regarding items recovered during searches, or the details of forensic examinations, cannot be discussed at this time. Members of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office will not be participating in any formal interviews or providing statements regarding this information.

http://www.pcso.us/2010-6-21-a

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on June 21, 2010, 08:17:36 PM
Don't miss the Dana Pretzer show tonight at 9pm ET!

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 21, 2010, 09:03:04 PM
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/RandyBiegenwald.jpg)

RANDY DEAN BIEGENWALD
PALATKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 6/21/2010 2:00:00 PM  - Booking#: 10-02642
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 3/28/1978 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
900.04 CONTEMPT OF COURT  N N  $1,000.00   
800.04-4a SEX OFFENSE VICTIM 12 YOA UP TO 15 YOA F S  $15,004.00   
798.02 LEWD LASCV BEHAVIOR COHABITATION F S  $10,004.00   
        $26,008.00   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 22, 2010, 12:17:04 AM
Name/AKAs Phone Address City, State Possible Relatives   
1.  BIEGENWALD, RANDY D (Age 32)
 Available(1) Available FORT LAUDERDALE, FL
FT LAUDERDALE, FL
Possible Relatives:

BIEGENWALD, BECKY
BIEGENWALD, JOSEPH C (Age 47)
BIEGENWALD, REBECCA A (Age 52)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

HUGHES, EVELYN V (Age 91)
HUGHES, WILLARD G (Age 41)
HARRIS, ROBERT B (Age 66)
STOVALL, ELLEN
WRIGHT, TIFFANY M (Age 30)
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2.  BIEGENWALD, RANDY D (Age 32)
   Available SAN MATEO, FL   
 View Details

3.  BIEGENWALD, RANDY D (Age 32)
   Available DAVIE, FL
SATSUMA, FL

 Possible Relatives:

BIEGENWALD, JENNIFER
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4.  BIEGENWALD, RANDY
 Available(1) Available PALATKA, FL   
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: akmom on June 22, 2010, 12:59:13 AM
Haleigh, I will not forget you........from a distance.......I wonder more and more, how many local power players who may be in LE may know something.....sorry if this offends anyone, it is the only excuse I can come up with for the fact that she has not been found, that daddy has successfully escaped jail time until now.....etc......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 22, 2010, 07:11:57 AM
http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2010/06/22/news/news01.txt
Haleigh search netted old bone

By Kristin Chambers
Published: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:26 AM EDT
Authorities confirmed Monday that a human bone was discovered at the Shell Harbour boat ramp in April where a search for Haleigh Cummings was conducted, despite earlier saying no human remains were found.

Mike Warren, director of the C.A. Pound Human Identification Laboratory at the University of Florida in Gainesville, confirmed that the bone was not related to the missing child and was instead believed to be of a Native American.

The three-day search for the child ended on April 15 after dozens of divers searched below the murky waters of the St. Johns River and located items that were sent to several independent labs for analysis.

Standing under the shade of an oak tree to address reporters later that afternoon, Sheriff Jeff Hardy said no body or human remains were found relevant to the Haleigh case.

He did say the status of the case had changed from a missing persons investigation to a homicide.

Following rumors that Haleigh's body had been found in the search, the Putnam County Sheriff's Office on April 21 issued a statement saying deputies "had an anthropologist at the scene that identified all 'biological' items that were recovered as being non-human."

Authorities did say an anthropologist from the University of Florida analyzed all items recovered on the scene, which was said to have included alligator claws and teeth and multiple animal bones.
Uncovering bones belonging to Native Americans is not uncommon in this area due to the large number that once settled here," sheriff's spokesman Lt. Johnny Greenwood said in a statement Monday.

Greenwood said Monday's statement was issued "to clear up any misunderstandings."

Greenwood also repeated Monday that the Haleigh case is still considered an active investigation and continued the department's practice of not discussing the lingering case.

"Specific information regarding items recovered during searches, or the details of forensic examinations, cannot be discussed at this time," he said. "Members of the Putnam County Sheriff's Office will not be participating in any formal interviews or providing statements regarding this information."

Haleigh was reported missing at 3:27 a.m. on Feb. 10, 2009.

No trace of the blond-haired 5-year-old has been found, despite massive searches by law enforcement officers and volunteers on land and water.

Haleigh's disappearance initially was described by authorities as a child-abduction case. At the conclusion of the three-day April search, Hardy officially labeled it a homicide.

Then 17-year-old Misty Croslin was dating Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, and was babysitting Haleigh the night she went missing.
Croslin, now 18, told deputies she put Haleigh to bed just after 8 p.m. and went to bed herself a couple hours later. Croslin said she awoke around 3 a.m. to use the restroom when she noticed the kitchen light on, the door propped open with a cinder block and Haleigh gone.

Haleigh's father, 26-year-old Ronald Cummings, was returning from his night-shift job at PDM Bridge in Palatka when the child was reported missing.

Diving squads, ground searchers, bloodhounds and helicopters scoured areas of the river and Satsuma woods while door-to-door interviews were conducted and officers searched vehicles at roadblocks.

Two camps with tents were set up in the neighborhood to house the maternal and paternal sides of Haleigh's family. For more than a month, tents remained aglow with hundreds of candles used in nightly vigils while national news media spotlighted the child's disappearance.

A month later, Croslin and Cummings married at his grandmother's house in Welaka.

Detectives named Croslin the key to the investigation after her statements to investigators had numerous inconsistencies about what took place between 10 p.m. and 3 a.m. the night Haleigh disappeared.

After seven months, Cummings divorced Croslin, citing public scrutiny.

In January, Cummings, Croslin, Hank Croslin Jr., Cummings' cousin Hope Sykes and a former search volunteer Donna Brock of Orlando were arrested following a month-long narcotics investigation into the trafficking of prescription pills.

They remain in jail today.

kchambers@palatkadailynews.com


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 22, 2010, 07:15:53 AM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YnEHsySONWU/SwR9lypaXlI/AAAAAAAAABg/wYFX1d6OGw4/s1600/Haleigh+Cummings5.bmp)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on June 22, 2010, 09:36:55 AM
PLEASE - DO NOT POST EVERY ARREST IN FLORIDA OR PUTNAM COUNTY.  We know there is alot of drug activity in the area but it's not all connected to this case.

Unless you can state a relationship to the Cummings or Croslin group or some reason to think they are associated with the Haleigh Cummings case, PLEASE DON'T POST EVERY DRUG ARREST or other ARREST just because it happened.  It must have a connection to the case.

Thanks!


If it continues we'll start deleting the posts.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on June 22, 2010, 03:24:20 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YnEHsySONWU/SwR9lypaXlI/AAAAAAAAABg/wYFX1d6OGw4/s1600/Haleigh+Cummings5.bmp)

She deserved so much better :(


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Love2Read on June 22, 2010, 04:12:58 PM
Such a beautiful child.  I just cannot help praying and holding out hope that MAYBE this precious little girl will be found safe.  LONG shot I know, but I just can't help it.  Besides, I do not believe anything any of those pill poppers say.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 22, 2010, 04:28:42 PM
Thanks for the article trim!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 22, 2010, 04:55:05 PM
Hey Heart,and all the monkeys here! :)

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/06/yellow-rope-brick-and-hollars.html
Tuesday, June 22, 2010
Haleigh Cummings: Yellow Rope, Brick, and Hollars


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on June 22, 2010, 06:29:12 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YnEHsySONWU/SwR9lypaXlI/AAAAAAAAABg/wYFX1d6OGw4/s1600/Haleigh+Cummings5.bmp)

What an absolutely precious picture of Haleigh!



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 22, 2010, 06:31:13 PM
PLEASE - DO NOT POST EVERY ARREST IN FLORIDA OR PUTNAM COUNTY.  We know there is alot of drug activity in the area but it's not all connected to this case.

Unless you can state a relationship to the Cummings or Croslin group or some reason to think they are associated with the Haleigh Cummings case, PLEASE DON'T POST EVERY DRUG ARREST or other ARREST just because it happened.  It must have a connection to the case.

Thanks!


If it continues we'll start deleting the posts.

Sorry Klaas, This was the first time I posted an arrest that maybe be involved. I remember Hardy stated the whole world is a suspect.The arrest I thought was just a maybe as he is a drug dealer, lived in the area, a person by the name of Tresha Wright who lived next door who suddenly left and  according to veromi 1 roomate of Randy one was a Tiffany Wright maybe related to Tresha , a  POS who sexually offend a child under the age of 12 and another. Just trying to look at all angles..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: ospainter on June 22, 2010, 07:30:41 PM
PLEASE - DO NOT POST EVERY ARREST IN FLORIDA OR PUTNAM COUNTY.  We know there is alot of drug activity in the area but it's not all connected to this case.

Unless you can state a relationship to the Cummings or Croslin group or some reason to think they are associated with the Haleigh Cummings case, PLEASE DON'T POST EVERY DRUG ARREST or other ARREST just because it happened.  It must have a connection to the case.

Thanks!


If it continues we'll start deleting the posts.

Sorry Klaas, This was the first time I posted an arrest that maybe be involved. I remember Hardy stated the whole world is a suspect.The arrest I thought was just a maybe as he is a drug dealer, lived in the area, a person by the name of Tresha Wright who lived next door who suddenly left and  according to veromi 1 roomate of Randy one was a Tiffany Wright maybe related to Tresha , a  POS who sexually offend a child under the age of 12 and another. Just trying to look at all angles..

OMGolly, I know who you mean, Did a lot of research on that Wright. will have to go back and look my files.

WOW..yes she did move quickly. trellis side of 202 Greene. real close.

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 22, 2010, 09:01:45 PM
Hi there JG, I see that Terry Shau French was arrested again today, but has posted bond.
If you remember the French's lives/ed on the same block of Betsy Ross as Snodgrass.

I don't know if true or not but it has been said that the French boys were friendly or friends with Misty & perhaps Ron.  Also there is a record in the Putnam County Clerk's site that A 50 something year old female w/last name of French assaulted another female w/ the last name of Whitmore.

A Whitemore, and perhaps not the same person (different first names) was a witness for Hope Sykes in her sentencing.

I wonder if the areas around the French's has been searched, even the detail shop on Hwy 17 or St. Johns Ave.

There is also a French listed on Horse Shoe Landing.

Interesting research if nothing else.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 22, 2010, 11:59:00 PM
Scott Davis

www.themissingtv.com


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 23, 2010, 03:32:59 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-7403-Tampa-Crime-Examiner~y2010m6d23-Haleigh-Cummings-update-Officials-say-bone-found-in-river-not-Haleighs-video
Haleigh Cummings update: Officials say bone found in river not Haleigh’s (video)
June 23, 3:11 PM


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 23, 2010, 08:47:15 PM
UCN: 542009CF001653XXAXMX
File Date: 09/14/2009
Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Case Status: CASE CLOSED
Defense Atty: WERTER, JAMES S
Case File Location: CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant: CROSLIN, HANK T JR
Alias: No Alias Records

Date # Docket Description
09/14/2009 1 COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. KEN TAYLOR (8/19/09)

09/14/2009 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A

09/16/2009 3 ARREST REPORT: GRAND THEFT (9/15/2009)


09/16/2009 4 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG

09/16/2009 4 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY

09/16/2009 4 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND

09/16/2009 4 $50,000.00 SECURED BOND SET

09/16/2009 5 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY

09/16/2009 6 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING

09/16/2009 7 WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED

09/21/2009 8 LETTER TO JUDGE HEDSTORM FROM LINDSY CROSLIN

09/24/2009 9 STIPULATION AND ORDER ON BOND

09/25/2009 10 $5004.00 (CITY BEST BAIL BOND) #2220906 (09/24/09)

09/25/2009 10 AMERICAN BANKERS INSURANCE COMPANY OF FLORIDA

10/22/2009 11 INFORMATION (GRAND THEFT (FIREARM)

10/22/2009 12 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (12/02/2009)

10/22/2009 13 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (12/02/2009)

10/30/2009 14 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE, PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND

10/30/2009 14 APPLICATION TO THE CLERK FOR A COPY OF THE

10/30/2009 14 INDICTMENT OR INFORMATION AND THE ENDORSEMENTS

10/30/2009 14 THEREON

10/30/2009 15 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (12/02/2009)

11/06/2009 16 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (12/03/2009)

11/06/2009 17 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (12/03/2009)

11/06/2009 18 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (12/03/2009)

12/03/2009 19 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER

12/03/2009 19 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE

12/03/2009 19 CONTINUED TO 01/14/2010

12/03/2009 20 NOTICE OF INTENT TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCOVERY

12/08/2009 21 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (01/14/2010)

12/08/2009 22 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (01/14/2010)

01/13/2010 28 STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT, WITNESS LIST

01/13/2010 24 DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE

01/14/2010 25 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER

01/14/2010 25 CASE SET FOR PLEA DAY 02/17/2010

01/20/2010 26 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (02/17/2010)

01/20/2010 27 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (02/17/2010)

01/22/2010 29 MOTION TO REVOKE BOND

01/22/2010 30 ORDER ON STATE'S MOTION TO REVOKE

01/26/2010 31 ORDER REVOKING BOND - DEFENDANT REMANDED TO CUSTODY

02/03/2010 32 MOTION TO TRANSFER TO DIV 52

02/03/2010 33 ORDER GRANTING MOTION TO TRANSFER TO DIV 52

02/03/2010 33 PRE-TRIAL TO BE RESET

02/22/2010 34 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL

02/22/2010 35 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)

03/31/2010 36 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER

03/31/2010 36 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE

03/31/2010 36 CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010

04/06/2010 37 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (05/13/2010) IN JAIL

04/06/2010 38 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (05/13/2010)

05/13/2010 39 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER

05/13/2010 39 STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUNCED READY FOR TRIAL

05/13/2010 39 CASE SET FOR JURY TRIAL 06/21/2010

05/13/2010 40 ORDER SETTING TRIAL AND LAST CHANCE PLEA DAY

05/13/2010 42 DEFENDANT'S WITNESS LIST

05/14/2010 41 MOTION TO DISMISS

05/17/2010 43 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (06/21/2010)

05/17/2010 44 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (06/21/2010) IN JAIL

06/03/2010 45 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 06/15/2010 AT 03:30

06/07/2010 46 DEFENDANTS WITHDRAWAL OF WITNESS

06/07/2010 47 AMENDED NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 06/15/2010 AT 03:30

06/07/2010 48 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION

06/08/2010 49 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION

06/15/2010 50 TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY JASON LEWIS,

06/15/2010 50 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLED NOLO TO THE LESSER OFFENSE OF

06/15/2010 50 TRESPASS OF OCCUPIED STRUCTURE (F.S. 810.08 2B)

06/15/2010 50 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 1 YR PCJ &/OR $1000 FINE

06/15/2010 50 PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI WAIVED, SENTENCING -

06/15/2010 50 DEFENDANT ADJUDGED GUILTY

06/15/2010 50 172 DAYS PCJ WITH 172 DAYS CREDIT

06/15/2010 50 $283 FINE AND COST

06/15/2010 50 $50 COST OF PROSECUTION

06/15/2010 50 $50.00 LAW ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATIVE COST

06/15/2010 50 ALL COSTS ENTERED AS A CIVIL LIEN

06/15/2010 51 FINGERPRINTS OF DEFENDANT

06/15/2010 52 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED:

06/15/2010 52 M J MARTIN

06/21/2010 53 JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE


06/22/2010 54 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE AS TO JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/ex...disclaimer.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 23, 2010, 08:52:34 PM

UCN:    542010CF001125XXAXMX
File Date:    05/18/2010
Judge:    EDWARD E HEDSTROM
Case Status:    PRE-TRIAL
Defense Atty:    CULBERT, BRUCE P
Case File Location:   CIRCUIT JUDGE DIVISION 53

Defendant:   PAGE, GREGORY LEWIS JR
Alias:   No Alias Records

Date   #   Docket Description
05/18/2010   1   ARREST REPORT - PPD OFF/EGAN (ARREST 5/14/10)
05/18/2010   1   BOOKING NUMBER: 10-2072
05/18/2010   1   POSSESSION OF CANNABIS IN EXCESS OF 20 GRAMS
05/18/2010   1   TRAFFICKING OF HYDROCODONE
05/18/2010   1   POSSESSION OF SCHEDULE II CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE WITH
05/18/2010   1   INTENT TO SELL
05/18/2010   1   POSSESSION OF HYDROCODON WITH INTENT TO SELL
05/18/2010   2   DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 5/15/10
05/18/2010   2   ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING
05/18/2010   2   SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
05/18/2010   2   $1004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. I
05/18/2010   2   NO BOND AS TO CT. II
05/18/2010   2   $2504.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. III
05/18/2010   3   AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS
05/18/2010   4   ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER AT FIRST APP HEARING
05/27/2010   5   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE FILED BY: BRUCE CULBERT
05/27/2010   6   MOTION FOR STATEMENT OF PARTICULARS
05/27/2010   7   NOTICE OF DISCOVERY
05/27/2010   8   MOTION FOR REDUCTION OF BOND
06/02/2010   9   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-01-2010) IN JAIL
06/02/2010   10   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-01-2010)
06/02/2010   11   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 06/18/2010 AT 02:00 PM
06/04/2010   12   INFORMATION (TRAFFICKING IN ROXICODONE - 28G TO
06/04/2010   12   30 KG)
06/04/2010   13   ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION TO CTS I & III ONLY
06/18/2010   14   MOTION HEARING MINUTES: DEFENSE MOTION FOR REDUCTION
06/18/2010   14   OF BOND CONTINUED UNTIL FURTHER ORDER OF COURT

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 23, 2010, 09:51:47 PM
 orlandomicki
 
HANK CROSLIN with offender number SJSO10MNI002272, is no longer in the custody of the ST. JOHNS COUNTY JAIL as of 6/23/2010.

HANK  THOMAS  CROSLIN
SATSUMA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 1/20/2010 9:23:00 PM  - Booking#: 10-00277
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 8/2/1986 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
893.135-1c1   DRUGS-TRAFFIC 4 GRAMS LESS 30 KG OTHER CNTRL SUBST   F   F    $100,000.00    
810.02-2b   BURGL DWELLING STRUCTURE OR CONVEYANCE ARMED   F   F    $5,004.00    
812.014-2a1   LARC GRAND 1ST DEGREE 100K DOLS MORE OR LEO SEMI   F   F    $2,504.00    
812.014-2a1   LARC GRAND 1ST DEGREE 100K DOLS MORE OR LEO SEMI   F   F    $0.00    
                $107,508.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=758545&IMG=59423


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 23, 2010, 10:08:17 PM
 orlandomicki
 
levi_page he was moved to putnam 7 minutes ago via web

http://twitter.com/orlandomicki


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 23, 2010, 11:39:28 PM
CROSLIN, HANK THOMAS   (W / MALE)
Status:    Released  Inmate Number: SJSO10MNI002272
RELEASED ON: 06/23/2010
Booking No:    SJSO10JBN000333
Booking Date:    01/20/2010 22:36:33
Age On Booking Date:    23
Bond Amount:    $7508.00
CELL Assigned:
Address Given:   116 TYLER ST SATSUMSA FL 32189
CHARGES
STATUTE    CASENO    CHARGE    DEGREE    LEVEL    BOND
893.135.1c1    CASE0001 (PUTNAM COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE)    DRUGS-TRAFFIC    F    F    $0.00
901.04    CASE0002 (ST. JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE)    OUT-OF-COUNTY WARRANT    N    N    $5004.00
901.04    CASE0002 (ST. JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE)    OUT-OF-COUNTY WARRANT    N

http://www.sjso.org/inmate_search_warrants.aspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 24, 2010, 06:22:31 AM
http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2010/06/24/news/news01.txt
Croslin back in Putnam custody-Sentencing on drug charges set for July 6

By Larry Sullivan-Palatka Daily News
Published: Thursday, June 24, 2010 1:09 AM EDT
The brother of the woman called the key to solving the Haleigh Cummings disappearance is back in the Putnam County Jail.

Hank �Tommy� Croslin Jr. has been held in the St. Johns County Jail in St. Augustine since he and four others were arrested on drug charges earlier this year. He was brought back to Putnam County on Wednesday night.

He pleaded no contest three weeks ago to trafficking in hydrocodone.

St. Johns County was holding Croslin at the request of Putnam Sheriff Jeff Hardy so he would not be with others jailed in the case held in custody in Palatka.

�Now that he has pleaded and is scheduled to be sentenced soon, it�s my decision that it�s appropriate to bring him back to this jail,� Hardy said.

Croslin is slated to be sentenced in Putnam County Circuit Court on July 6, said sheriff�s office spokesman Lt. Johnny Greenwood.

Croslin is the older brother of Misty Croslin, who was babysitting Haleigh Cummings when the child vanished in February 2909.

Both Croslins were arrested in January after an undercover investigation into illegal sales of prescription painkillers. Others jailed after the probe include Haleigh�s father, Ronald Cummings, his cousin Hope Sykes and Donna Brock, an Orlando woman who had befriended Misty Croslin.
Putnam investigators, frustrated with what they described as Misty Croslin�s inconsistent accounts of what happened the night Haleigh disappeared, have said she had information that could solve the case.

Sheriff Hardy said recently that authorities believe Haleigh is dead and that she was killed.

The latest search for Haleigh�s body or clues to her disappearance was in April in South Putnam County.

Teams of divers accompanied by local, state and federal authorities converged on the Shell Harbour boat ramp to the St. Johns River off County Road 309 � a neighbor where the Croslins used to live.

The three-day search ended April 15.

Last Monday, the sheriff�s office confirmed a human bone found during the search of the river bottom was determined to be from a Native American and was too old and large to be Haleigh.

�Uncovering bones belonging to Native Americans is not uncommon in this area due to the large number that once settled here,� Greenwood said in a statement.

Greenwood also said the Haleigh case was still an active investigation.

�Specific information regarding items recovered during searches, or the details of forensic examinations, cannot be discussed at this time,� he said.

Haleigh was reported missing at 3:27 a.m. on Feb. 10, 2009.
No trace of the blond-haired 5-year-old has been found, despite massive searches by law enforcement officers and volunteers. Haleigh�s disappearance initially was termed a child-abduction case.

Then 17-year-old Misty Croslin was dating Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, and was babysitting Haleigh the night she went missing.

Croslin, now 18, told deputies she put Haleigh to bed just after 8 p.m. and went to bed herself a couple hours later. Croslin said she awoke around 3 a.m. to use the restroom when she noticed the kitchen light on, the door propped open with a cinder block and Haleigh gone.

Haleigh's father, 26-year-old Ronald Cummings, was returning from his night-shift job at PDM Bridge in Palatka when the child was reported missing.

A month later, Croslin and Cummings married at his grandmother's house in Welaka. They divorced seven months later.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 24, 2010, 10:07:34 AM
Thanks for the update trim.  Have a great day!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 24, 2010, 10:19:20 AM
Thanks for the update trim.  Have a great day!
Thank-you everyone for the updates  HUGS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 24, 2010, 12:37:14 PM
Misty Croslin's brother awaits drug trial sentencing

By Karen Voyles
Staff writer

Published: Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 10:11 a.m.
Last Modified: Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 10:11 a.m.

Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr., 23, has been transferred from the St. Johns County jail to the jail in Palatka to await sentencing in a drug case.

Misty Croslin is a key figure in the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings. Haleigh disappeared from her father's rural Putnam County home in February 2009 while being cared for by Misty Croslin.

The Croslins were arrested in January following an undercover drug investigation by the Putnam County Sheriff's Office and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. Tommy Croslin pleaded no contest to a drug trafficking charge and an unrelated drug possession case several weeks ago. He is scheduled to be sentenced in those cases on July 6.

In a statement issued Thursday morning, Putnam County Sheriff's spokesman Lt. Johny Greenwood said that although the crimes committed by Croslin took place in Putnam County, "Croslin was originally housed at the St. Johns County Jail as a courtesy from Sheriff David Shoar in order to help keep the co-defendants in the cases separated. Sheriff (Jeff) Hardy determined that it is appropriate at this time to return Croslin to the Putnam County Jail to await his sentencing."

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100624/ARTICLES/100629727/1002


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 24, 2010, 12:39:34 PM
Hank Croslin Jr. Moved To Putnam Co. Jail

Brother Of Haleigh Cummings' Former Stepmom To Be Sentenced In Drug Case

POSTED: Thursday, June 24, 2010
UPDATED: 11:44 am EDT June 24, 2010

Croslin, who has pleaded no contest to drug trafficking charges, was being held in St Johns County to keep him separated from the others involved in the case.

Croslin's crimes were committed in Putnam County, and according to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office, Sheriff Jeff Hardy determined it was an appropriate time to return Croslin to the Putnam County Jail to await his sentencing, which is set for July 6.

Croslin is the brother of Misty Cummings, the last person who investigators said saw 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings the night she disappeared from her Satsuma home in February 2009.

Croslin, Misty Cummings and Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, were all arrested in January on drug charges unrelated to the Haleigh case.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/24021301/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 24, 2010, 12:47:04 PM
(http://public.pcso.us/jail/adb.asp?IMG=59423)
HANK  THOMAS  CROSLIN
SATSUMA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 6/23/2010 7:08:00 PM - Booking#: 10-00277
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 8/2/1986 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
893.135-1c1   DRUGS-TRAFFIC 4 GRAMS LESS 30 KG OTHER CNTRL SUBST   F   F    $100,000.00    
810.02-2b   BURGL DWELLING STRUCTURE OR CONVEYANCE ARMED   F   F    $5,004.00    
812.014-2a1   LARC GRAND 1ST DEGREE 100K DOLS MORE OR LEO SEMI   F   F    $2,504.00    
812.014-2a1   LARC GRAND 1ST DEGREE 100K DOLS MORE OR LEO SEMI   F   F    $0.00    6/24/2010 9:34:52 AM
                $107,508.00    
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=758545&IMG=59423


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 24, 2010, 05:04:12 PM
Hank "Tommy" Croslin Moved To Putnam County Jail

Contributor: Iliana Allen
Email: iallen@ActionNewsJax.com
Last Update: 3:04 pm

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. --  Action News has confirmed that Hank "Tommy" Croslin has been transferred from the St. Johns County jail to a facility in Putnam County.

According to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office, Croslin was being held in St. Johns as a "courtesy" in order to keep him separated from co-defendants in his drug trafficking case.

Croslin pled Nolo Contendere to Hydrocodone trafficking charges in early June.  He is scheduled to be sentenced on July 6th.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Hank-Tommy-Croslin-Moved-To-Putnam-County-Jail/M1RCUVv0k0q37KRUM8cayA.cspx?rss=1


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 24, 2010, 05:22:32 PM
Croslin Jr. tranferred to Putnam County Jail

Posted: June 24, 2010 - 3:05pm

Hank Thomas Croslin Jr. has been moved from the St. Johns County Jail to the Putnam County Jail and will remain there until his sentencing, the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office said.

Croslin Jr. was held in St. Johns County as a courtesy to keep the co-defendants in the case separated, the report said.

Croslin Jr. plead no contest to trafficking hydrocodone in Putnam County in June 3. He is scheduled to be sentenced on July 6. He will wait for his sentencing in the Putnam County Jail, the report said.

Croslin Jr. is the brother of Misty Croslin - the last known person to see Haleigh Cummings before she disappeared.

http://staugustine.com/news/local-news/2010-06-24/croslin-jr-tranferred-putnam-county-jail


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 24, 2010, 09:11:06 PM
Hank Croslin Jr. Moved To Putnam Co. Jail

(http://images.ibsys.com/media/200X150/23781274.jpg)

Brother Of Haleigh Cummings' Former Stepmom To Be Sentenced In Drug Case
   
WJXT-TV

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. - Hank Croslin Jr. has been transferred to the Putnam County Jail from the St. Johns County Jail.

Croslin, who has pleaded no contest to drug trafficking charges, was being held in St Johns County to keep him separated from the others involved in the case.

Croslin's crimes were committed in Putnam County, and according to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office, Sheriff Jeff Hardy determined it was an appropriate time to return Croslin to the Putnam County Jail to await his sentencing, which is set for July 6.
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Croslin is the brother of Misty Cummings, the last person who investigators said saw 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings the night she disappeared from her Satsuma home in February 2009.

Croslin, Misty Cummings and Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, were all arrested in January on drug charges unrelated to the Haleigh case.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37899391/ns/local_news-jacksonville_fl/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 24, 2010, 09:34:05 PM
Haleigh Cummings Update: Tommy Croslin Moved Back To Putnam County

This really amazes me. I know the police are leaning on Misty and her brother for information on what happened to Haleigh but I honestly can’t help but wonder if Misty, Ronald and Tommy are really smart enough or experienced enough to plan out a story that could cover up any wrong doings on their part involving Haleigh for this long. Sorry but I am just not buying it. It takes a really smart person to figure out a perfect murder plan. It takes time and unless this was something they have been planning for weeks or months prior to Haleigh’s disappearance, I just have a hard time believing this was their doings. It is more likely to be a plan from someone that has a lot of experience and that knows how to get away with this. It would take a lot longer than even a few hours to plan what they are thinking they have done and continue keeping it for 16 plus months I refuse to believe in my heart that Haleigh is dead and until they show me proof I will continue thinking so.

I am told that in Louisiana a person has to be missing for 7 years in order for a death certificate to be issued and unless the case is considered to be a homicide, then the 7 years stands. Now from what I could find in Florida a person missing has to be gone for 5 years before they can be declared dead. What I can’t find is if the missing person’s case is listed as a homicide could the law be the same as Louisiana. Anyway it is a food for thought. A death certificate is needed to collect life insurance on a deceased person too I believe. It sure makes my mind wonder.

more...

http://www.bloggernews.net/124776


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 24, 2010, 09:39:08 PM
Croslin Moves To Putnam Co. Jail
Hank Croslin Jr. Considered Key To Solving Haleigh Cummings Case
http://www.wesh.com/news/24024597/detail.html

Hank Croslin Jr. Transferred to Putnam County Jail
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=157818&catid=3


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 24, 2010, 10:05:21 PM
Hank Croslin Returned to Putnam Jail

2010-6-24 by: Lt. Johnny Greenwood

The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office has received numerous inquiries regarding the recent transfer of Hank Thomas Croslin Jr. from the St. Johns County Jail to the Putnam County Jail. Croslin was originally housed at the St. Johns County Jail as a courtesy from Sheriff David Shoar in order to help keep the co-defendants in the cases separated.

The crimes committed by Croslin took place in Putnam County. On June 3, 2010, Croslin pled Nolo Contendere to trafficking in Hydrocodone. He is scheduled to be sentenced on July 6, 2010. Sheriff Hardy determined that it is appropriate at this time to return Croslin to the Putnam County Jail to await his sentencing. 

http://www.pcso.us/2010-6-24-a


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 24, 2010, 10:32:38 PM
vaquera said,
in June 24th, 2010 at 4:27 pm

Actually it was Mrs Sykes that relayed a message from “Rooster” Ron’s father(really hate to call him father because he wasn’t in their lives, so biodad then) to watch himself because there are snitches in jail

http://www.bloggernews.net/124776


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 25, 2010, 09:05:52 AM
Tommy Croslin has been transferred to Putnam

He is awaiting sentencing on a drug case at the jail.

By Karen Voyles
Staff writer

Published: Friday, June 25, 2010 at 6:01 a.m.
Last Modified: Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 11:18 p.m.

Misty Croslin's brother is headed back to the Putnam County Jail.

Hank “Tommy” Croslin Jr., 23, has been transferred from the St. Johns County jail to the jail in Palatka to await sentencing in a drug case.

Misty Croslin is a key figure in the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings, the child who vanished from her father's rural Putnam County home in February 2009 while being cared for by Misty Croslin.

The Croslins were arrested in January following an undercover drug investigation by the Putnam County Sheriff's Office and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

Tommy Croslin pleaded no contest to a drug trafficking charge and an unrelated drug possession case several weeks ago.

He is scheduled to be sentenced in those cases July 6.

In a statement issued Thursday morning, Putnam County sheriff's spokesman Lt. Johny Greenwood said that, although the crimes committed by Croslin took place in Putnam County, “Croslin was originally housed at the St. Johns County Jail as a courtesy from Sheriff David Shoar in order to help keep the co-defendants in the cases separated.”

“Sheriff (Jeff) Hardy determined that it is appropriate at this time to return Croslin to the Putnam County Jail to await his sentencing,” Greenwood said.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100625/ARTICLES/100629666/1002


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on June 25, 2010, 12:01:12 PM
It sure is odd how pretty much all of the family members have gone so quiet.
One family member who caught my attention right away is Ron's Uncle Donald Squires.
Heart posted about him here:
Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #17
« Reply #1593 on: August 02, 2009, 11:29:40 AM »

Quoting his infamous statement, "I won't squeal on my kin."

It was certainly an odd comment to make.

Not much has been learned about Donald Squires that I know of.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 26, 2010, 01:44:25 PM
(http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/replicate/EXID1168/images/100625162459HaLeigh_Cummings_3.jpg)
I am depending on you, not to forget about me.
I am waiting for you to find me!
HaLeigh Anne Marie Cummings


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 26, 2010, 05:00:53 PM

Just Curious said,
in June 25th, 2010 at 3:38 am

me..the 8:30 phone call came from TJ Hart, he was down there at the time,that is how we learned of this, he also straightened out the 90 phone calls to 20,which I could understand, as Ron was just in this conversation with Misty and then she wasn’t answering the phone, so I would imagine he just kept hitting redial.I forget which thread was talking about the purple Altima car that Ron has, well it was bought by Marie G so Crystal would have a car, but it ended up staying with Ron, Marie talks of this on a video.I have always wondered what Ron did with the 12,000 dollars, it must have went somewhere pretty fast, because he was always needing money.

http://www.bloggernews.net/124765


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on June 26, 2010, 11:24:35 PM
(http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/replicate/EXID1168/images/100625162459HaLeigh_Cummings_3.jpg)
I am depending on you, not to forget about me.
I am waiting for you to find me!
HaLeigh Anne Marie Cummings

She deserved more.  She deserves to be found. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 27, 2010, 11:21:13 AM
http://www.bloggernews.net/124781
Haleigh Cummings – Caylee Anthony – Zach Pittman – BNN Radio
Posted on June 25th, 2010


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 27, 2010, 03:57:26 PM
Jan Barrett said,
in June 27th, 2010 at 1:56 pm

Cobra is having trouble regaining his license for bail bonding. He doesn’t deserve what treatment he is getting. Time permitting it might be a subject discussed on our program this afternoon. Simon and I support Cobra 100% and we hope he gets back to his regular work soon. Keep him in your prayers please.

http://www.bloggernews.net/124789


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 28, 2010, 12:01:54 PM
http://www.bloggernews.net/124803
Haleigh Cummings - Caylee Anthony - Zachary Pittman Radio Wrap Up
Posted on June 28th, 2010


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 28, 2010, 02:30:36 PM
Does Kyron Horman Case Mirror the Haleigh Cummings Case?
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5531574/does_kyron_horman_case_mirror_the_haleigh.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2010, 02:31:30 PM
FYI - we are going to try putting back avatars and smileys hopefully some time today and see how the site does.  Also, the site will be down early morning Wednesday June 30th (we think) at around 2am ET for some updates to the forum software.  Hopefully it won't be down long.  This is NOT the new server upgrade.  I don't have a date on that yet.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 28, 2010, 04:36:06 PM
FYI - we are going to try putting back avatars and smileys hopefully some time today and see how the site does.  Also, the site will be down early morning Wednesday June 30th (we think) at around 2am ET for some updates to the forum software.  Hopefully it won't be down long.  This is NOT the new server upgrade.  I don't have a date on that yet.
Thanks for the notice klaas!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2010, 05:40:32 PM
Don't miss the Dana Pretzer show tonight at 9pm ET:

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on June 28, 2010, 05:45:44 PM
FYI - we are going to try putting back avatars and smileys hopefully some time today and see how the site does.  Also, the site will be down early morning Wednesday June 30th (we think) at around 2am ET for some updates to the forum software.  Hopefully it won't be down long.  This is NOT the new server upgrade.  I don't have a date on that yet.
Thanks for the notice klaas!

There's baaaaaaack!!!

 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 28, 2010, 06:16:31 PM
Haleigh's Eyes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgLkXJ2Zgz0

http://twitter.com/LLMPapa


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2010, 08:54:20 PM
DON'T MISS DANA PRETZER - STARTS IS A COUPLE MINUTES.  CLICK ON THE LINK BELOW NOW!

http://scaredmonkeys.com/radio.m3u

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 29, 2010, 08:34:16 AM
Everything changed today!  Yes Snoddy is still out there, although I believe his new love interest is in men. Hey, everyone to there own beliefs. Personally I prefer women, but what do I know?

So what changed today? Cobra got his life back! He has his license reinstated, he can resume his life. I am slightly worried, for months I have been joking with him about how he is welcome to come and visit us, but he had to promise not to kick our door down in the middle of the night. He now has his ‘door kicking’ license back. EEK

more...

http://www.bloggernews.net/124810


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 29, 2010, 07:39:13 PM
Details:UCN: 542010DR000740FDXXXX
File Date: 04/28/2010
Disposition Date:   
File Type:  DISSOLUTION 
Judge:  A W NICHOLS III 
Case File Location: (FAM) FAMILY DIVISION


Plaintiffs CROSLIN LINDSY KATE
 
Defendants CROSLIN HANK
 


Date Docket Description
04/28/2010 001.CIVIL COVER SHEET 
04/28/2010 002.PETITION FOR DISSOLUTION OF MARRIAGE 
04/30/2010 003.SUMMONS ISSUED TO: HANK CROSLIN 
04/30/2010 004.FILING FEE RECEIPT 
05/10/2010 005.RTN OF SVC ON HANK CROSLIN SVD 05/03/10 DUE 05/23/10 
05/10/2010 DEFAULT AVAIL 05/28/10 
05/10/2010 006.RESPONSE TO SUMMONS : HANK CROSLIN 
06/02/2010 007.NOTICE OF CASE MGMT CONFERENCE 06/29/10 AT 01:30 
06/29/2010 008.FAMILY COURT MINUTES 
06/29/2010 009.CASE MGMT ORDER : HEARING 07/20/10 AT 11:00 

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 29, 2010, 07:41:20 PM
Details:

UCN:  542010CF000254XXAXMX
File Date:  02/03/2010
Judge:  TERRY J LARUE 
Case Status:  TRIAL 
Defense Atty:  SHOEMAKER, TERRY J 
Case File Location: CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant: CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 
Alias: No Alias Records

Date # Docket Description
02/03/2010 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO DET/T CAMPBELL 1-20-10 

02/03/2010 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A 

02/03/2010 2 INFORMATION - TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (28G-30KG) 

02/03/2010 3 CAPIAS REQUEST FORM - BOND $250,000 NATIONWIDE 

02/03/2010 4 CAPIAS ISSUED - BOND SET AT $250,000 NATIONWIDE 

02/04/2010 5 ARREST DATE:02/03/2010 

02/04/2010 5 BOOKING NUBMER:10-0276 

02/04/2010 6 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 

02/04/2010 6 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING 

02/04/2010 6 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND 

02/04/2010 6 $250,000 SECURED BOND SET 

02/04/2010 7 CAPIAS RETURNED EXECUTED 

02/10/2010 8 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER 

02/10/2010 9 NOTICE OF DISCOVERY 

02/10/2010 10 STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT 

02/10/2010 11 WITNESS LIST 

02/10/2010 12 DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE 

02/11/2010 13 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-18-2010) IN JAIL 

02/11/2010 14 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (02-18-2010) 

02/17/2010 15 WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT, PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND 

02/17/2010 15 FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER (FAX) 

02/18/2010 16 ORDER SETTING CASE FOR PRETRIAL 02/18/2010 

02/19/2010 17 WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT, PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND 

02/19/2010 17 FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER (ORIGINAL) 

02/23/2010 18 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) 

02/23/2010 19 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010) 

03/03/2010 20 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST 

03/17/2010 21 NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY 

03/29/2010 22 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST 

03/31/2010 23 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER 

03/31/2010 23 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE 

03/31/2010 23 CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010 

04/07/2010 5 ARREST REPORT- TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (28G - 30KG) 

04/07/2010 24 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (05-13-2010) IN JAIL 

04/07/2010 25 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (05-13-2010) 

04/26/2010 26 MOTION TO REDUCE BOND 

05/06/2010 27 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:30 PM 

05/06/2010 27 MOTION TO REDUCE BOND 

05/06/2010 28 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:00 PM 

05/06/2010 28 STATE'S MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE 

05/06/2010 28 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S 

05/06/2010 28 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING) 

05/07/2010 29 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (BOND HEARING) 

05/07/2010 30 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:00 PM 

05/07/2010 30 STATE'S MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE 

05/07/2010 30 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S 

05/07/2010 30 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING) 

05/07/2010 31 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:30 PM 

05/07/2010 31 DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO REDUCE BOND 

05/10/2010 32 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (NEBBIA HEARING) 

05/10/2010 33 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (ORIGINAL) (NEBBIA) 

05/11/2010 34 NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (BOND) 

05/13/2010 35 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER 

05/13/2010 35 STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUNCED READY FOR TRIAL 

05/13/2010 35 CASE SET FOR JURY TRIAL 07/19/2010 

05/13/2010 36 ORDER SETTING TRIAL 07/19/2010 

05/28/2010 37 LETTER FROM ANNETTE SYKES 

06/07/2010 38 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-19-2010) 

06/28/2010 39 MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE 


http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 29, 2010, 08:03:36 PM
Example of motion..

IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE THIRTEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT
FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA
CRIMINAL JUSTICE DIVISION
STATE OF FLORIDA
v.
[Defendant]
CASE NUMBER: [CASE #]
DIVISION: [DIVISION]
DEFENDANT’S / STATE’S MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE
The Defendant / State moves for a continuance pursuant to Florida Rule of Criminal
Procedure 3.190(g), and states the following reason(s) as good cause for the request to continue:
[ ] Defense / State not sufficiently prepared for trial.
[ ] Illness of a witness or other party.
[ ] Illness of an attorney for the party.
[ ] Unavailability of a witness or attorney.
[ ] Untimely disclosure of a witness or other discovery information.
[ ] Defense / State inability to depose a witness or victim prior to trial.
[ ] Defendant’s competency to proceed at issue.
[ ] Appointment of regional / conflict counsel upon the public defender’s withdrawal.
[ ] Appointment of public defender upon private counsel’s withdrawal.
[ ] _________________________________________________________
If Defendant is moving for a continuance, counsel has consulted with the Defendant who
has no objection and understands that speedy trial is waived if this motion is granted.
I CERTIFY this motion is made in good faith and that a copy of the motion has been
furnished to [ASA], Assistant State Attorney, Office of the State Attorney, [State Attorney’s
address] or [Defense Counsel], Law Office of [Defense Counsel], [Defense Counsel’s address]
on the _____ day of August, 2008.
___________________________________________
ATTORNEY NAME, Florida Bar # [BAR #]
Law Office of [Defense Counsel] / State Attorney’s Office
[Address]
[City], Florida [ZIP CODE]
(813) [telephone number] (telephone); (813) [facsimile number] (fax)
------------
ORDER DENYING / GRANTING MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE
Having heard and considered the Defendant’s / State’s Motion for Continuance, it is
ORDERED that the Motion for Continuance is
[ ] DENIED.
[ ] GRANTED. The non-moving party [ ] objects [ ] does not object.
DONE AND ORDERED in Tampa, Hillsborough County, Florida on this ______ day of
August, 2008.
___________________________________
Copies furnished to: [JUDGE], CIRCUIT COURT JUDGE
[Defense Counsel], Law Office of [Defense Counsel] AND [ASA], Office of the State Attorney

http://www.fljud13.org/pdfs/ContinuanceFormMotionandOrder.pdf


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 29, 2010, 08:44:47 PM

Lillymae said,
in June 29th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES
Case Status: TRIAL

UCN: 542010CF000145XXAXMX
06/28/2010 43 MOTION TO CONTINUE

UCN: 542010CF000144XXAXMX
06/28/2010 45 MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE

UCN: 542010CF000146XXAXMX
06/28/2010 45 MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE

UCN: 542010CF000253XXAXMX
06/28/2010 45 MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE

UCN: 542010CF000254XXAXMX
06/28/2010 45 MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE
http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 29, 2010, 09:23:25 PM
Example of motion..

IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE THIRTEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT
FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA
CRIMINAL JUSTICE DIVISION
STATE OF FLORIDA
v.
[Defendant]
CASE NUMBER: [CASE #]
DIVISION: [DIVISION]
DEFENDANT’S / STATE’S MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE
The Defendant / State moves for a continuance pursuant to Florida Rule of Criminal
Procedure 3.190(g), and states the following reason(s) as good cause for the request to continue:
[ ] Defense / State not sufficiently prepared for trial.
[ ] Illness of a witness or other party.
[ ] Illness of an attorney for the party.
[ ] Unavailability of a witness or attorney.
[ ] Untimely disclosure of a witness or other discovery information.
[ ] Defense / State inability to depose a witness or victim prior to trial.
[ ] Defendant’s competency to proceed at issue.
[ ] Appointment of regional / conflict counsel upon the public defender’s withdrawal.
[ ] Appointment of public defender upon private counsel’s withdrawal.
[ ] _________________________________________________________
If Defendant is moving for a continuance, counsel has consulted with the Defendant who
has no objection and understands that speedy trial is waived if this motion is granted.
I CERTIFY this motion is made in good faith and that a copy of the motion has been
furnished to [ASA], Assistant State Attorney, Office of the State Attorney, [State Attorney’s
address] or [Defense Counsel], Law Office of [Defense Counsel], [Defense Counsel’s address]
on the _____ day of August, 2008.
___________________________________________
ATTORNEY NAME, Florida Bar # [BAR #]
Law Office of [Defense Counsel] / State Attorney’s Office
[Address]
[City], Florida [ZIP CODE]
(813) [telephone number] (telephone); (813) [facsimile number] (fax)
------------
ORDER DENYING / GRANTING MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE
Having heard and considered the Defendant’s / State’s Motion for Continuance, it is
ORDERED that the Motion for Continuance is
[ ] DENIED.
[ ] GRANTED. The non-moving party [ ] objects [ ] does not object.
DONE AND ORDERED in Tampa, Hillsborough County, Florida on this ______ day of
August, 2008.
___________________________________
Copies furnished to: [JUDGE], CIRCUIT COURT JUDGE
[Defense Counsel], Law Office of [Defense Counsel] AND [ASA], Office of the State Attorney

http://www.fljud13.org/pdfs/ContinuanceFormMotionandOrder.pdf

I wonder what the reason is for the continuance request JG?   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 29, 2010, 11:12:23 PM
Snipped from Heart

 I wonder what the reason is for the continuance request JG?

1.Maybe Ron is going to make a better plea deal 
2.GGRanny might be in Las Vegas on that date
 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 30, 2010, 09:00:01 AM
Snipped from Heart

 I wonder what the reason is for the continuance request JG?

1.Maybe Ron is going to make a better plea deal 
2.GGRanny might be in Las Vegas on that date
 ::MonkeyGavel::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::  They need more time to find a way to get Ronnie off!!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 30, 2010, 09:48:33 PM
JAMES  MICHAEL  HOBERG
SATSUMA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 6/29/2010 1:05:00 AM  - Booking#: 10-02757
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 7/22/1967 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
800.04-5b   LEWD LASCV BEHAVIOR MOLEST VIC LESS 12YOA OFFENDER 18 YOA OR OLDER   F   L    $50,004.00    
                $50,004.00    
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=761604&IMG=37588

_______________________________________________________________

541989DR005765CAXXXX   1989-07-18   DOM (Divorce)
Plaintiffs   HOBERG ANNIECE M
Defendants   HOBERG JAMES M

__________________________________________________________________

541996DR007272FDXXXX   1996-03-05   DOM (Divorce)
Plaintiffs   CUMMINGS ANNIECE M
Defendants   CUMMINGS JOHN T
http://public.pcso.us/jail/adb.asp?IMG=39881


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on June 30, 2010, 10:26:52 PM
Probably close to O/T ... but Lindsy changed her photo here: http://www.myspace.com/lindsy_croslin

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image143.png)

We need our emoticons back. ;-)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 30, 2010, 10:48:08 PM
JAMES  MICHAEL  HOBERG
SATSUMA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 6/29/2010 1:05:00 AM  - Booking#: 10-02757
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 7/22/1967 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
800.04-5b   LEWD LASCV BEHAVIOR MOLEST VIC LESS 12YOA OFFENDER 18 YOA OR OLDER   F   L    $50,004.00    
                $50,004.00    
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=761604&IMG=37588

_______________________________________________________________

541989DR005765CAXXXX   1989-07-18   DOM (Divorce)
Plaintiffs   HOBERG ANNIECE M
Defendants   HOBERG JAMES M

__________________________________________________________________

541996DR007272FDXXXX   1996-03-05   DOM (Divorce)
Plaintiffs   CUMMINGS ANNIECE M
Defendants   CUMMINGS JOHN T
http://public.pcso.us/jail/adb.asp?IMG=39881


He has a long rap sheet..

Drugs, Burglary,Domestic Violence,Fellon Battery
http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on June 30, 2010, 10:59:00 PM
Probably close to O/T ... but Lindsy changed her photo here: http://www.myspace.com/lindsy_croslin

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image143.png)

We need our emoticons back. ;-)

 RadioNewz

 
No Haleigh newz this week, but Lindsy Croslin made some big newz with her new MySpace pic.. ... http://bit.ly/ahqFhk

http://forums.radionewz.net/index.php?topic=142.msg8384#msg8384


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on June 30, 2010, 11:48:28 PM
Probably close to O/T ... but Lindsy changed her photo here: http://www.myspace.com/lindsy_croslin

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image143.png)

We need our emoticons back. ;-)

 RadioNewz

 
No Haleigh newz this week, but Lindsy Croslin made some big newz with her new MySpace pic.. ... http://bit.ly/ahqFhk

http://forums.radionewz.net/index.php?topic=142.msg8384#msg8384

huh?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: ospainter on July 01, 2010, 02:04:19 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=158126&catid=3

Attorney: Tommy Croslin Being Mistreated in Putnam Jail

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- The attorney for Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr. has filed a motion saying his client is being mistreated in jail.

Attorney James Werter said Croslin, who is being held on drug charges but is a notable figure in the search for Haleigh Cummings, was taken out of protective custody last week and that his situation deteriorated.

In a motion for Order to Show Cause and Order of Prohibition Request for Expedited Hearing filed with the State Attorney's office and delivered to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office, Werter said Croslin's new accommodation in the Putnam County Correctional Facility has "inadequate ventilation" and "defective plumbing."

Werter's motion also stated that Croslin was forcibly removed from his cell and denied access to his attorney by detectives who harassed and threatened Croslin.

READ THE COMPLETE MOTION

According to the motion, the detectives said they would charge Croslin with felony murder in the Haleigh Cummings case if he didn't talk, and said they would spread rumors about him to the general population at the jail.

Werter called those "obvious violations" of Croslin's civil rights, and called for the detectives to be held in contempt.

He also wanted the court to establish that detectives could not have contact with Croslin unless it was previously established in writing with Werter.

(snipped)

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 01, 2010, 02:06:20 PM
Croslin Files Motion Alleging Harassment

Attorney Wants To Move Croslin To St. Johns County

POSTED: 12:53 pm EDT July 1, 2010
UPDATED: 1:23 pm EDT July 1, 2010


PALATKA, Fla. --
An attorney for Hank Croslin Jr. has filed a motion in court on Monday claiming he's been harassed and threatened by authorities.


Croslin is the brother of Misty Croslin, who was babysitting Haleigh Cummings when she disappeared more than one year ago. Both are jailed facing drug charges.

The motion stated he was recently moved from the St. Johns County Jail to the Putnam County Jail, where Croslin was placed in the general population section in a cell with bad plumbing and ventilation.

The motion also claimed detectives from the Putnam County Sheriff's Office have visited Croslin to harass and threaten him. The alleged threats included telling Croslin that detectives would give other prisoners false information about him that could lead to "physical harm."

Read Motion  http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0701/24110635.pdf

The motion also stated detectives said Croslin would be charged with the slaying of Haleigh if he doesn't talk. The motion also stated a Sheriff's Office captain berated Croslin and accused him of murder in front of other people.

Croslin's attorney said his client's civil rights were violated and stated he wants to move his client back to jail in St. Johns County.

A judge will hear the motion on July 16

http://www.wesh.com/news/24110371/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 01, 2010, 02:23:57 PM
Tommy Croslin was denied a lawyer in jail interrogation, lawyer says

Posted: July 1, 2010 - 12:36pm

By Kate Howard

An attorney for Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr. has asked a judge to prohibit any investigators from interviewing him without notifying his attorney.

In court documents filed today, attorney James Werter said that Croslin, who was transferred to the Putnam County jail last week, was interrogated for two hours by Putnam County investigators and denied an attorney.

He was told "that he did not need an attorney and that the attorney of record and his private investigator were 'rat-ing' him out," according to the motion.

Croslin is the brother of Misty Croslin, who was watching 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings before her disappearance in February 2009 in Satsuma. Both Croslins and Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, are in jail awaiting sentencing on prescription drug charges.

Werter declined commenting beyond the court filings.

The court documents said that officers berated Croslin Jr., accused him of murdering Haleigh and threatened to spread false information to other prisoners to cause him physical harm.

The motion also asks a judge for an order that the investigators appear in court to say why they shouldn't be held in contempt for civil rights violations.

Maj. Gary Bowling with the Putnam County Sheriff's Office said he couldn't comment on the issue because of that request, but he said the department will speak with the court if asked to do so.

He was being held in jail in St. Johns County until last week to keep him away from a co-defendant, Putnam County officials said at the time. He pleaded no contest on June 3 to trafficking hydrocodone and no longer needed to be held separately, according to the Sheriff's Office.

He was being held in protective custody but is now in general population in Putnam County, according to the court documents.

A hearing is scheduled for July 16.

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-07-01/story/tommy-croslin-was-denied-lawyer-jail-interrogation-lawyer-says


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 01, 2010, 02:26:44 PM
Attorney: Tommy Croslin Being Mistreated in Putnam Jail
   

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- The attorney for Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr. has filed a motion saying his client is being mistreated in jail.

Attorney James Werter said Croslin, who is being held on drug charges but is a notable figure in the search for Haleigh Cummings, was taken out of protective custody last week and that his situation deteriorated.

In a motion for Order to Show Cause and Order of Prohibition Request for Expedited Hearing filed with the State Attorney's office and delivered to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office, Werter said Croslin's new accommodation in the Putnam County Correctional Facility has "inadequate ventilation" and "defective plumbing."

Werter's motion also stated that Croslin was forcibly removed from his cell and denied access to his attorney by detectives who harassed and threatened Croslin.

READ THE COMPLETE MOTION

According to the motion, the detectives said they would charge Croslin with felony murder in the Haleigh Cummings case if he didn't talk, and said they would spread rumors about him to the general population at the jail.

Werter called those "obvious violations" of Croslin's civil rights, and called for the detectives to be held in contempt.

He also wanted the court to establish that detectives could not have contact with Croslin unless it was previously established in writing with Werter.

In court in early June, pretrial hearing, Croslin pleaded no contest to one count of possession, a third degree felony, and to one count of trafficking in hydrocodone, a first degree felony.

His next court date is July 6. His sentencing date has not been set.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=158126&catid=3


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 01, 2010, 05:26:14 PM
Croslin's Attorney: Stop Strong-Arming

Motion Orders Investigators To Stop Talking To Hank Croslin Jr. Without Permission


POSTED: Thursday, July 1, 2010
UPDATED: 4:33 pm EDT July 1, 2010

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- Whether it's strong-arm tactics or leaning on a suspect, whatever you call it, Hank Croslin Jr. said it's happening to him and he wants it to stop.

Croslin's defense attorney, James Werner, filed a motion this week ordering investigators to stop talking to his client without his permission.

Croslin said that investigators have been threatening him so he would cooperate in the Haleigh Cummings investigation. According to the motion, there were threats that Croslin did not need an attorney and that his attorney was ratting him out and was going to testify against him in court.

"I don't know what they were thinking when they did this," Werner said.

Document: Motion Filed In State Vs. Hank Croslin Jr. Drug Case

Croslin said that an investigator threatened to charge him with Haleigh's murder if he did not speak with him, according to the motion, and that the investigators would give false information to the other prisoners to cause Croslin physical harm.

Hank Croslin Jr. Pleads No Contest
Hank Croslin Jr. pleads no contest to two charges of drug possession.
Werner said the pressure to solve the Haleigh case may be forcing investigators to take unethical tactics.

"You can put blames there, but professional law enforcement is professional law enforcement," Werner said. "I'm former law enforcement, and I believe in a certain amount of professionalism."

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office responded to the allegations Thursday, saying while there was no official internal investigation, they did look into the matter.

"I'm not calling it frivolous. I'm just saying we are not going to respond to it at this point," Chief Rick Ryan said.

Ryan did not address the specific allegations but said his investigators did not do anything improper.

"Croslin is in jail on drug charges facing sentencing," Ryan said. "Our folks talked to him about another pending investigation, totally separate. Again, we're just not going to respond to the allegations."

Croslin's sister is Misty Cummings, 5-year-old Haleigh's former stepmother, who investigators said was the last person to see the Satsuma girl the night she vanished from her home in February 2009.

Croslin, Cummings and Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, are all in jail on drug charges.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/24112773/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 01, 2010, 06:46:39 PM
Haleigh Cummings Update: Is Tommy Croslin Being Mistreated in Jail?

The question here is, is any of this true? Has Tommy really been harassed and threatened as he claims he was. If he was these detectives have some answering to do.

I have been hearing what everyone is saying. You want to know what this has to do with finding Haleigh. I say it does in a certain way but then again it depends on who you think is guilty. If Tommy knows anything about Haleigh’s disappearance I am assuming that the detectives are trying to make him talk. Now if Tommy knows nothing then none of this has anything to do with finding Haleigh, but at least it will either take more drug sellers off the streets.

more...

http://www.bloggernews.net/124829


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 01, 2010, 08:16:14 PM
Macy said,
in July 1st, 2010 at 6:43 pm

Cricket as for WBG, I don’t know what the $0 in the bond amount means, but he is in jail and someone posted bond 6/4/10 on two of his charges. This is from the Putnam inmate search.

893.13-6a MARIJUANA-POSSESS POSSESS MARIJUANA OVER 20 GRAMS F T $1,004.00 6/4/2010 4:01:00 PM

893.135-1c1 DRUGS-TRAFFIC 4 GRAMS LESS 30 KG OTHER CNTRL SUBST F F $0.00

893.13-1a1 SYNTH NARCOTIC-POSSESS WIT SELL MFG
OR DELIVER SCHEDULE I OR II F S $2,504.00 6/4/2010 4:00:48 PM

__________________________________________________________________
Cricket responded,
in July 1st, 2010 at 6:45 pm

Macy,
The reason I asked is because I just read that LE beat the hell out of him and put him in jail no bond.

http://www.bloggernews.net/124829#comment-1688646



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on July 01, 2010, 08:30:50 PM
An attorney for Hank Croslin Jr. has filed a motion in court on Monday claiming he's been harassed and threatened by authorities. In 3 parts being posted.


(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/Tommycroslincomplaint1.jpg)

http://www.wesh.com/news/24110371/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on July 01, 2010, 08:31:58 PM
part2..

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/tommycroslincomplaint2.jpg)

http://www.wesh.com/news/24110371/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on July 01, 2010, 08:32:56 PM
part3 of motion..

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/tommycroslincomplaint3.jpg)

http://www.wesh.com/news/24110371/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on July 01, 2010, 08:43:49 PM
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/tommycroslinnoticeofhearing.jpg)

http://www.wesh.com/news/24110371/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 01, 2010, 09:13:54 PM
(http://www.actionnewsjax.com/media/lib/1/7/a/e/7aeb54de-3f44-4d56-bb79-6ad00e40ec99/Original.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 01, 2010, 09:28:48 PM
UCN:    542010CF000147XXAXMX
File Date:    01/21/2010
Judge:    TERRY J LARUE
Case Status:    SENTENCING
Defense Atty:    WERTER, JAMES S
Case File Location:   CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant:   CROSLIN, HANK T JR

Alias:   No Alias Records

Date   #   Docket Description
01/21/2010   1   COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (12/22/09)
01/21/2010   1   BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
01/21/2010   1   TRAFFICKING OXYCODONE
01/21/2010   2   WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $100,000.00
01/22/2010   3   ARREST REPORT: TRAFFICKING IN OXYCODONE (1/20/10)
01/22/2010   4   MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE OF
01/22/2010   4   BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S
01/22/2010   4   RELEASE ON BAIL ("NEBBIA HEARING")
01/22/2010   5   ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
01/22/2010   5   OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL ("NEBBIA HEARING")
01/22/2010   5   PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S RELEASE ON BAIL
01/22/2010   6   ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO ST JOHNS COUNTY FROM
01/22/2010   6   PUTNAM COUNTY, FLORIDA
01/22/2010   7   WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED
02/03/2010   8   INFORMATION - TRAFFICKING IN OXYCODONE (4G - 14G)
02/03/2010   9   MOTION TO TRANSFER TO DIV 52
02/03/2010   10   ORDER TRANSFERRING CASE TO DIV 52
02/03/2010   11   MOTION TO CONSOLIDATE FOR TRIAL
02/09/2010   12   ORDER TO CONSOLIDATE
02/09/2010   13   MOTION AND ORDER TO TRANSPORT
02/09/2010   13   03/05/2010 ST JOHNS COUNTY
02/09/2010   14   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE AND APPLICATION TO THE CLERK FOR
02/09/2010   14   A COPY OF THE INDICTMENT OR INFORMATION AND THE
02/09/2010   14   ENDORSEMENTS THEREON FILED BY: JAMES S WERTER (FAX)
02/09/2010   15   NOTICE OF INTENT TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCOVERY (FAX)
02/10/2010   16   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE AND APPLICATION TO THE CLERK FOR
02/10/2010   16   A COPY OF THE INDICTMENT OR INFORMATION AND THE
02/10/2010   16   ENDORSEMENTS THEREON FILE BY:JAMES S WERTER (ORIGINAL)
02/10/2010   17   NOTICE OF INTENT TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCOVERY(ORIGINAL)
02/16/2010   18   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE AND PLEA OF NOT GUILTY AND
02/16/2010   18   APPLICATION TO THE CLERK FOR A COPY OF THE INDICTMENT
02/16/2010   18   OR INFORMATION AND THE ENDORSEMENTS THEREON
02/16/2010   18   FILED BY:JAMES S WERTER (FAX)
02/16/2010   19   ORDER TO TRANSPORT RETURNED UNEXECUTED - CASE
02/16/2010   19   CONTINUED TO 03/31/2010
02/18/2010   20   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE AND PLEA OF NOT GUILTY AND
02/18/2010   20   APPLICATION TO THE CLERK FOR A COPY OF THE INDICTMENT
02/18/2010   20   OR INFORMATION AND THE ENDORSEMENTS THEREON
02/18/2010   20   FILED BY: JAMES WERTER (ORIGINAL)
03/01/2010   21   STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
03/01/2010   22   WITNESS LIST
03/01/2010   23   DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE
03/11/2010   24   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
03/12/2010   25   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL
03/12/2010   26   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)
03/29/2010   27   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
03/31/2010   28   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER
03/31/2010   28   ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
03/31/2010   28   CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010
04/07/2010   29   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (05-13-2010) IN JAIL
04/07/2010   30   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (05-13-2010)
05/13/2010   31   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER
05/13/2010   31   ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
05/13/2010   31   CONTINUED TO 06/03/2010
05/17/2010   32   NOTICE OF INTENT TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCOVERY
05/18/2010   33   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (06-03-2010)
05/18/2010   34   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (06-03-2010) IN JAIL
06/03/2010   35   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER
06/03/2010   35   W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO A/C TO TRAFFICKING IN
06/03/2010   35   HYDROCODONE (4G-14G)
06/03/2010   35   ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 30YRS DOC &/OR $15000 FINE
06/03/2010   35   PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI ORDERED, SENTENCING SET 07/06/2010
06/03/2010   36   REQUEST FOR PSI
06/08/2010   37   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-06-2010)
06/08/2010   38   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-06-2010) IN JAIL
06/14/2010   39   NOTICE RETURNED UNEXECUTED (NOT IN OUR JAIL)
06/15/2010   40   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
07/01/2010   41   MOTION FOR ORDER TO SHOW CAUSE AND ORDER OF
07/01/2010   41   PROHIBITION REQUEST FOR EXPEDITED HEARING
07/01/2010   41   HEARING SET 07/16/2010 AT 2:30 PM


http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on July 01, 2010, 11:46:22 PM
I read that Tommy is having a difficult time in jail.  Plumbing issues.  I have to wonder if his life hasn't been a bit more comfortable since his arrest.  Air conditioning, 3 squares a day, free tv, free laundry, free medical. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 02, 2010, 09:11:49 AM
I read that Tommy is having a difficult time in jail.  Plumbing issues.  I have to wonder if his life hasn't been a bit more comfortable since his arrest.  Air conditioning, 3 squares a day, free tv, free laundry, free medical. 
When I read about Tommy and his plumbing issues, I thought perhaps he needs to be sent to that rat hole with Joran Van der Sloot.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on July 02, 2010, 09:30:26 AM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 02, 2010, 05:40:14 PM
542010CF000147XXAXMX

Case Status: SENTENCING
Defendant: CROSLIN, HANK T JR

07/01/2010 41 MOTION FOR ORDER TO SHOW CAUSE AND ORDER OF
07/01/2010 41 PROHIBITION REQUEST FOR EXPEDITED HEARING
07/01/2010 41 HEARING SET 07/16/2010 AT 2:30 PM
07/02/2010 42 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 07/16/2010 AT 2:30 PM
07/02/2010 42 DEFENDANT’S MOTION TO SHOW CAUSE AND ORDER OF
07/02/2010 42 PROHIBITION REQUEST FOR EXPEDITED HEARING

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 02, 2010, 07:02:03 PM
Werter on JVM regarding Tommy Croslin's jailhouse treatment tonight.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 02, 2010, 07:04:51 PM
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on July 02, 2010, 07:14:46 PM
Jeff Hardy Son..



Details:

UCN:  542010CF001035XXAXMX
File Date:  05/06/2010
Judge:  TERRY J LARUE 
Case Status:  PENDING CASE 
Defense Atty:   
Case File Location: CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant: IMM, JOSHUA TROY 
Alias: No Alias Records

Date # Docket Description
05/06/2010 1 ARREST REPORT - PCSO DET/ D ADKISSON (ARREST 5/5/10) 

05/06/2010 1 BOOKING NUMBER: 10-1942 

05/06/2010 1 POSSESSION OF LISTED CHEMICALS 

05/06/2010 1 SALE OF METHAMPHETAMINES 

05/06/2010 1 CHILD ABUSE 

05/06/2010 1 POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA 

05/06/2010 1 MAINTAINING A DRUG VEHICLE 

05/06/2010 2 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 5/6/10 

05/06/2010 2 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING 

05/06/2010 2 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND 

05/06/2010 2 $2504.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. I 

05/06/2010 2 $2504.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. II 

05/06/2010 2 $1004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. III 

05/06/2010 2 $ 504.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. IV 

05/06/2010 2 $ 504.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. V 

05/06/2010 3 AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS 

05/06/2010 4 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER AT FIRST APP HEARING 

06/14/2010 5 DESIGNATION OF ASSISTANT STATE ATTORNEY 

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JOSHUA TROY IMM
SATSUMA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/6/2010 12:50:14 AM  - Booking#: 10-01942
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: ospainter on July 02, 2010, 07:28:54 PM
FYI

Werter to be on JVM after the break now.

OS



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on July 02, 2010, 07:32:36 PM
Tommy's attorney on HLN now..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 02, 2010, 07:36:10 PM
Werter says he had no idea that TC was transported from St Johns to  Putnam.

What the hell is Werter talking about regarding the threats.  I am confused.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 02, 2010, 07:38:19 PM
Tommy's attorney on HLN now..

Who is THEY that Werter is talking about. 

One second he is referring to the cops and the next its not the cops.

What the hill!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on July 02, 2010, 07:39:15 PM
Werter says he had no idea that TC was transported from St Johns to  Putnam.

What the hell is Werter talking about regarding the threats.  I am confused.

What i am getting out of it that the Putnam County Sheriff were threatning Tommy with Haleigh's murder..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 02, 2010, 07:42:08 PM
Unless Werter can present more and deliver it more clearly than what he just did, he can crawl back into his hole, imo.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on July 02, 2010, 07:45:03 PM
Werter says he had no idea that TC was transported from St Johns to  Putnam.

What the hell is Werter talking about regarding the threats.  I am confused.

What i am getting out of it that the Putnam County Sheriff were threatning Tommy with Haleigh's murder..

And apparently it was Captain Piscitello, Detectives John Merchant and Peggy Cone who were doing the 2 hour questioning. And this IMO I don't think they should of transported Tommy in the general population with Ronny. If something happenes to Tommy we may never know what happened to Haleigh and then they could say it was Tommy.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 02, 2010, 07:45:56 PM
Werter says he had no idea that TC was transported from St Johns to  Putnam.

What the hell is Werter talking about regarding the threats.  I am confused.

What i am getting out of it that the Putnam County Sheriff were threatning Tommy with Haleigh's murder..

Once again Werter claims that Tommy knows what happened the night HaLeigh went missing.

So what is the hold up with getting on with this case.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on July 02, 2010, 07:50:15 PM
Werter says he had no idea that TC was transported from St Johns to  Putnam.

What the hell is Werter talking about regarding the threats.  I am confused.

What i am getting out of it that the Putnam County Sheriff were threatning Tommy with Haleigh's murder..

Once again Werter claims that Tommy knows what happened the night HaLeigh went missing.

So what is the hold up with getting on with this case.

Who knows Heart.. Werter stated that he wasn't going into the gruesom details..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: ospainter on July 02, 2010, 07:53:52 PM
I didn't get to hear, phone. dang it.

I taped it will watch later and see if I can make heads or tails. Doubt it though.

OS



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 02, 2010, 08:29:09 PM
Werter says he had no idea that TC was transported from St Johns to  Putnam.

What the hell is Werter talking about regarding the threats.  I am confused.

What i am getting out of it that the Putnam County Sheriff were threatning Tommy with Haleigh's murder..

And apparently it was Captain Piscitello, Detectives John Merchant and Peggy Cone who were doing the 2 hour questioning. And this IMO I don't think they should of transported Tommy in the general population with Ronny. If something happenes to Tommy we may never know what happened to Haleigh and then they could say it was Tommy.
I understand and I don't want anything to happen to TC until he spills the beans and testifies to what happened that night.

However TC did not commit the crime in St. Johns county and I myself do not have a problem with TC being in GP in Putnam County.

Let him back up all that hot c_it hes been talking while in PC in St. Johns.

Imm's still has a couple of his drug pushing cohorts still in GP in Putnam as well.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: higherhopes on July 02, 2010, 08:31:00 PM
Im not saying whats going on with Tommy is right.....but.........if it is going on, I doubt they done anything more then hurt his feelings, and who the hell cares about the plumbing or the ventalation, he;s in jail dang it...if he wants nice plumbing or air then his butt shouldnt be locked up...I doubt this is the first time he has been around bad plumbing or done without air, I mean....good Lord, he passed out and slept in his truck half the time before he was jailed....OMG...just something else for him to wcry about,...........WHERE IS HALEIGH!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: ospainter on July 02, 2010, 11:18:13 PM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1007/02/ijvm.01.html

ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL

Kyron`s Family Holds News Conference; Cousteau`s Grandson Shares View on Gulf Oil Leak

Aired July 2, 2010 - 19:00:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST (voice-over): Tonight, escalating drama and intrigue surrounding the disappearance of 7-year-old Kyron Horman. As the desperate search continues, explosive new details emerge about the family of this missing boy. In a shocking move, they 86-ed two newspapers from their press conference, complaining their coverage wasn`t focused on Kyron. What?

Plus, Kyron`s biological mom begs his step-mom, Terri Horman, to cooperate with police. Is Terri holding back details that could end this family`s nightmare? Is Terri lying?

And is BP trying to cover up the oil that`s blackening America`s beaches with sand? You`ll hear my rant on this apocalypse. Plus, special guest Philippe Cousteau is here to talk to me one-on-one about the crisis in the Gulf. The grandson of ocean explorer Jacques Cousteau give his take.

Also, after a dramatic river search for little Haleigh Cummings reaches a dead end, Misty`s brother, Tommy, is screaming foul, claiming cops are strong-arming him by forcibly removing him from one jail to another and sticking him into the general population. Tommy`s lawyer is here in an ISSUES exclusive to complain about the cops` latest maneuvers. What`s next? Will we ever know what happened to this little girl, or has the trail gone cold?

ISSUES starts now.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight an avalanche of dramatic and bizarre developments in the disappearance of 7-year-old Kyron Horman. The adorable child vanished four weeks ago today. KGW-TV reports that a reliable source tells them Kyron`s step-mom, Terri Horman, is lying to investigators and that her cell phone records show she was not where she said she was on the day that little Kyron vanished.

Plus, why did Kyron`s biological parents 86 two media outlets from the family presser yesterday? Don`t they want all the help they can get to find their precious stepson?

His step-mom, Terri Horman, was the last person known to see him. And now, even though she has not been named a suspect or a person of interest, she remains under a dark cloud of suspicion. What does Terri Horman know? Kyron`s biological mom called her out yesterday in an intense and emotional news conference.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DESIREE YOUNG, KYRON`S BIOLOGICAL MOM: We implore Terri Horman to fully cooperate with the investigators to bring Kyron home.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Reports are it was the cops who told Kyron`s dad, Kaine Horman, to move out, leave his wife, Terri, and take their baby girl with him. What do cops know that would inspire them to suggest such a thing?

Here is Terri Horman five years ago in bodybuilding competitions. But that was long before she had three kids to take care of, one of them her stepchild Kyron. How did she go from this to this? Did the pressure of taking care of three children, including her stepson Kyron, prove to be too much for her?

Straight out to my fantastic expert panel, but we begin with investigative reporter Michelle Sigona.

Michelle, what is the very latest?

MICHELLE SIGONA, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: Well, I spoke with Lieutenant Lindstrand just a short time ago, and she says they`re continuing to follow up on leads, not only today but throughout the weekend. And so they`re still accepting all of those leads and moving forward.

As far as the family, they did meet yesterday behind closed doors with a select group of reporters. I can tell you that a lot of us were able to send in questions and requests through the police department -- through the sheriff`s office which, in turn, passed it over to the family, and then they decided what they wanted to answer and who they wanted t meet with.

So they decided at this particular time to meet with local reporters from most of the television stations in the area, but they only answered questions about Kyron. We`ve learned a little bit more about -- go ahead, Jane.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, go ahead if you have something about Kyron, because I`m going to talk to a reporter in a second who was at that news conference. So what about Kyron?

SIGONA: We learned a little bit more about Kyron; for instance his favorite foods. He likes sushi and mac and cheese. Also, he has a strawberry colored birthmark that has faded that`s on his forehead but comes back out when he gets excited or when he cries.

Also, Kyron is allergic to bees. And these are very important physical characteristics about someone and about their habits that are good for any missing person case.

In addition, there are some independent search teams that are on the ground in the island where investigators were initially searching. And I spoke to Lieutenant Lindstrand about that, and I also spoke to one of the teams on the ground. But she encourages anyone who wants to conduct any kind of searching to please come through them first.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK. Kyron`s family laid down a lot of very strange -- that`s how I`d have to put it -- ground rules at yesterday`s news conference. The family hand picked who would be allowed to witness this tearful statement by Kyron`s mom.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

YOUNG: Kyron is still alive. We would like all of you, everyone, to continue to get his face out there, to continue looking for him in your day-to-day activities. We pray each day for Kyron.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Reporter James Pitkin with the "Willamette Week" joins us by phone.

James, you were one of the reporters who got tossed out. This seems like very controlling behavior. What happened and why?

JAMES PITKIN, "WILLAMETTE WEEK" (via phone): The father told me an reporters from "The Oregonian," which is the biggest newspaper in the state. That he wasn`t happy with our coverage. He wanted the story to stay focused on Kyron, and he told us to leave the church.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: But that`s so weird, because their whole message of the news conference was, "Terri, tell cops what you know." And the -- I`ve read the coverage of your paper and "The Oregonian." And it`s all focused on Terri and what she may know. So you are on the same page.

PITKIN: Well, that`s the direction the story took us. Apparently, the family is not happy about that.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: That is so strange.

I`ve got to bring in my dear friend Rita Crosby, journalist. And she has covered so many of these cases. I got to read to you, because this is astounding.

KGW-TV is reporting that reliable sources tell them she`s lying to investigators. She`s not cooperating with investigators -- we`re talking about the stepmother Terri. She`s refusing to answer questions. The lady with the red hair right there. Her answers on polygraph are evasive, and KGW also says cell phone records indicate she was not where she said she was on the day Kyron disappeared. Your thoughts?

RITA CROSBY, JOURNALIST: You know, Jane, I think your last statement, I think, is the most interesting because authorities -- you know; you and I have both covered a lot of these cases through the years. If authorities say she was not in that particular area, they`re going to be able to pinpoint where she was. And that could indeed, maybe if this is, indeed, the suspect -- and they`re not saying it officially -- but if it turns out she`s a suspect, it may give an area of sense.

This just looks so fishy. There`s something very strange. Her behavior, if you look at the pattern of her behavior. And then the other thing, too. Look at her record, too. She has all this reckless abandonment issues. She`s got questions of behavior with prior children. There`s a lot of things in there. It`s clear the authorities are zooming in on here, and it`s also clear that the family knows her, too. And that`s why I think they`re screening, I think, what reporters are coming in and what are coming out.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, here`s my big issue tonight. Are investigators tightening the psychological noose around Terri Horman, the step-mom? After being briefed by cops, the husband files for divorce, gets a restraining order so Terri is not even allowed to have contact with any of her children. Then this family gathers, noticeably without Terri, and names names, points the finger at her. Let`s hear it once again.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

YOUNG: We implore Terri Horman to fully cooperate with the investigators to bring Kyron home.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Mike Brooks, it was the cops who reportedly told Kaine Horman, Kyron`s dad, "Move out." Is this a strategy?

MIKE BROOKS, HLN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: You know, it could very well be, Jane. But you know, if it`s a strategy, he could have moved out. But he filed for divorce and filed for a restraining order. He got a restraining order for her. You know?

And now she has a criminal attorney. She doesn`t have a divorce attorney. So if it`s -- if it`s a strategy, I think it`s starting to work.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: You know, I got to...

MARK EIGLARSH, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Hold on, Brooksie. I didn`t like the way Brooksie said criminal attorney. You`d almost think that means that she`s guilty of something.

BROOKS: I`m just pointing out the fact, Counselor, that it is a criminal attorney and not someone that deals in probate court most of the time.

EIGLARSH: I know. But I sense the tone. I sense the tone. And all I`m saying is that, when someone becomes under the microscope, it`s a good idea to get an attorney, even if they`ve done absolutely nothing wrong, because they then can control their time, and they can cooperate when they are available, not necessarily whenever law enforcement comes a-knocking.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, you make a good point.

BROOKS: Then he needs to control his client, too, then, Counselor, because she`s been out there on the World Wide Web and under other names. He needs to rein her in then.

EIGLARSH: I don`t disagree with you. I don`t think she should be out there if, in fact, that is her doing it.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, let me get to all of that. You guys have had a fabulous little debate there.

Terri Horman, Mark`s point, has not been named a suspect or even a person of interest. I`m starting to wonder what that is all about.

Now, she has reportedly lied on at least two different occasions that we know of. Lie No. 1, she told a reporter who came to her door that everything was fine, that her husband had not moved out. Less than an hour later she was served with divorce papers and the restraining order. And we now have learned that Kaine, in fact, had moved out two days earlier.

Lie No. 2, as you just heard Mike Brooks mention, Terri allegedly wrote e-mails under assumed names to a Portland TV station to claim her innocence. Why didn`t she just use her real name? Stacey Kaiser, psychotherapist, what do you make of this pattern?

STACEY KAISER, PSYCHOTHERAPIST: I mean, there`s definitely a pattern. Here`s one of the things that I can tell you. I have dealt with a lot of people who are accused of crimes, both innocent and guilty, as it would turn out. And what I`ve discovered is the people that are innocent, they don`t lie. They`re open. They`re honest. They`re willing to talk to police officers. They want to get their name cleared as quickly as possible. And that`s not what this woman is doing.

EIGLARSH: See, that`s not my experience always.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: James Pitkin, I want to -- I want to get something from you, James Pitkin. Why do you think she has not been named a person of from at this point? You are there on the scene.

PITKIN: Investigators have been extremely tight-lipped throughout this investigation. They will not say why, but they just say that they are not ready to talk anything about suspects or people of interest in this case.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Are they still searching that island near the school that they`ve been focused on like a laser beam?

PITKIN: I`ve been told that the dive team at the sheriff`s office continues to be active. They`re going out every day, but it`s not sure where. The major search effort is definitely over, though.

BROOKS: Jane, they may not be calling a person of interest which I don`t like anyway. I call that suspect-like. And they`re not calling her a suspect. But where is the focus of their investigation? It`s on Terri Horman.

EIGLARSH: They should keep it wide. They need to keep it wide at this point.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. More on the drama surrounding little Kyron`s disappearance in just a bit. An emergency hearing, as well, in the Casey Anthony murder. A judge rules on some very damaging evidence.

But first, not only is Kyron missing; his family is imploding. More on the stunning new reports from KGW-TV that his step-mom has been lying to investigators. What does Terri Horman know?

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

KAINE HORMAN, KYRON`S DAD: He is somewhere, hopefully with someone who is taking care of him, and he`s protected and safe. And that`s -- whether or not that`s what actually happened, I can`t branch predict every other thing that comes to my mind, because I don`t want to.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Many find step-mom Terri Horman`s behavior on the day of little Kyron`s disappearance bizarre, to say at least. She was online blogging about her cat and going to the gym. Here`s what one psychoanalyst had to say about it last night on "NANCY GRACE."

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BETHANY MARSHALL, PSYCHOANALYST: This is reminiscent of Casey Anthony. Remember, the little girl goes missing. She goes to Target. She buys things for herself. She goes out dancing. She`s on a stripper pole. Mothers who don`t want their children usually try to get rid of the child because they feel the child is standing in the way of the idealized life they want.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Rita Crosby, is that a fair comparison, do you think?

CROSBY: I think it`s a really interesting comparison. In fact that`s the first thing I thought of, too, when I heard this case. Just the bizarre behavior.

And also, the Internet, too, is another component. As Mike Brooks was talking about in this case, the step-mom was on the Internet. She was on Facebook. We remember those pictures of Casey Anthony all posted all over the place. There`s a sort of typical syndrome sometimes. If, again, if it turns out that Terri is tied to this, if it turns out, I wouldn`t be surprised. Because the behavior is just so weird and so erratic.

And again, it goes back to why is she not telling authorities the truth? If authorities say she`s not consistent, and again, if the cell- phone records put her somewhere else than she said she was, all of this just opens the door. What are you hiding?

EIGLARSH: Doesn`t mean she`s guilty, though.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Mike, why don`t they name her a person of interest? If all of these reports are valid, why not just take the leap?

BROOKS: Well, there`s a lot of things right now that are circumstantial. But one thing you need to have an arrest is probable cause. Now, if you put everything together some people may say, "Well, I think they have enough probable cause." But right now apparently they don`t.

But there`s a reason they`re doing this. They just haven`t told anyone and they`re holding everything very close to the vest, which as an investigator, a smart thing to do in this case.

KAISER: And another thing...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Go ahead.

KAISER: I was just going to say, another thing is they know where she is. They obviously have a very close eye on her. The media has a close eye on her. She`s not going anywhere. So if they take the time and they`re able to build the case, then they can move forward if they decide to move in that direction.

EIGLARSH: I have no idea. Jane, I have no idea whether she`s guilty or not, but let me just say this. There have been many people that Mike Brooks knows, that I have defended, that I`ve prosecuted who lie but don`t necessarily have anything to do with the crime for which they`re being attacked on national television. It doesn`t mean that they`re guilty.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I know you`re not referring to Joran Van Der Sloot.

EIGLARSH: No. Or Casey Anthony. Or Casey Anthony, for that matter. But people might be covering up something else. It might be reported that they`re lying, but they`re not really lying. Maybe they did pass a polygraph but cops said they, well, they were just acting a certain way. It doesn`t mean they`re guilty. I have no idea if she is or she isn`t.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK.

EIGLARSH: But let`s not convict her just yet.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Let`s go back to James Pitkin. He is there. He`s a reporter with "The Willamette Week." He`s on the ground. He`s been watching. This is a rather bizarre set of circumstances that has developed, though, the way this has unfolded, James. Is it not? James?

PITKIN: ... go out to the school where he disappeared. It is one of the most isolated, tiny, rural schools in the area. If I was going to snatch a kid from a school, do a stranger snatching, this is the last place I would pick. I`d pick somewhere in the city. A lot of traffic around. You just disappear into the cityscape. This place is in the middle of nowhere. That`s bizarre.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now, if the reports from KGW-TV are true, and Terri is not cooperating with investigators and not answering questions, could it simply be on her lawyer`s advice. Here`s last night`s ISSUES. Check this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JOHN HENRY HINGSON III, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: He needs to get control of his client, and if she is sending messages, e-mail messages to the local television station, she`s got to obey him, obey him, obey him, to shut up.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now, Mark Eiglarsh, Terri Horman`s attorney, Stephen Houze, is not going to want her to talk to anyone, but she just hired him. I don`t believe she had a lawyer until a couple of days ago. So that doesn`t explain all her behavior.

EIGLARSH: That`s true. And I`m not necessarily saying that she`s innocent. I`m just saying that there are people who look really guilty sometimes and have other reasons to explain that away.

I think she needs to keep her mouth shut. She needs to stop sending things out there and just be.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: You know, Stacey Kaiser, my theory about this is that this is an enmeshed situation. These two couples are very, very enmeshed. The biological mother got sick. Terri helped her out with little Kyron, ended up marrying Kyron`s dad. And so I think there`s a lot of co- dependency issues, a lot of enabling, a lot of lack of boundaries. What say you, Stacey Kaiser, psychotherapist?

KAISER: I agree with you 100 percent. And what we see when there`s enmeshment and no boundaries and sort of this blurred line of who is doing what role in a family, we see some people getting angry and acting out.

Now, most people don`t go and take a child or do anything to them. But it certainly is possible, if somebody has the right psychological makeup, which is meaning that she has psychological problems. And if she does, she may have done something.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, you know, it`s a tough position for her to be in again. We want to stress that she is not a suspect or a person of interest. But clearly, she is the focus of the investigation. And imagine what she feels like right now, sitting there with the entire nation`s laser beam focused on her.

Thank you, fantastic panel.

Coming up, the latest on the search for Haleigh Cummings. Are cops trying to find the precious child or what?

Next, find out how to turn your outrage over the Gulf disaster into action.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight, the calamity in the Gulf getting more disastrous with every passing minute. And now making matters worse, CNN reports that the amount of toxic dispersant chemicals being used to dilute the oil could be at dangerous levels.

And then just yesterday, the U.S. Coast Guard banned the media and the public from entering a 65-foot so-called safety zone around the exploded oil rig and their clean-up efforts. So what does this mean for anybody trying to help those suffering animals, for example?

Philippe Cousteau is an environmentalist, the CEO of Earth Echo International. Philippe`s famous grandfather was environmental icon Jacques Cousteau.

Philippe, it`s an honor to have you here on ISSUES. How can those of us who feel helpless in the face of this apocalypse help to turn things around?

PHILIPPE COUSTEAU, CEO, EARTH ECHO INTERNATIONAL: Well, you know, I think it`s critical for all of us to remember on this Fourth of July weekend that this is a national tragedy for every American and that all of us, you know, fundamentally need to keep caring about this issue and keep supporting the various organizations that are down in the Gulf, the various nonprofits and research institutions that are doing all the science around this -- this spill that`s so critical at this point, to establish a baseline understanding, so we can keep the authorities and the agencies involved, keep their feet to the fire over the coming months and years.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I`m very suspicious about the so-called safety zone. The other day we heard right here on ISSUES that they were setting turtles on fire, because they were getting trapped inside the containment booms during the controlled burns. Now suddenly we hear, oh, you can`t even go near those booms to see whether there`s any animals trapped inside. I`m doubtful about this so-called safety zone around the clean-up efforts.

COUSTEAU: Well, you know, the safety response to this spill has been spotty at best. I`ve been down to the Gulf about six or seven times, both diving beneath the surface and seeing the spill in the water column, to spending a lot of time in the communities and the environment along the coast.

And I can tell you that, for example, a month ago when I was in Grand Isle, Louisiana, they had a very large orange boom about 100 feet away from the beach and were preventing anyone from approaching the beach.

And yet, then I would drive to Alabama the next day, and people were, you know, interacting with tar balls, walking along the beach. Kids were walking around when there were clean-up crews literally there at the same time, cleaning up the oil. So I`m skeptical about this, as well.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. And the government had told BP cut back on those dispersants, the chemical dispersants. And guess what? We have learned now that they`ve barely cut back at all.

COUSTEAU: Well, you know, there`s definitely a case of giving the keys to the kingdom to the fox in the henhouse, so to speak. And I`m very concerned, as we all are, about how much power that BP influence has over this clean-up effort.

However, I know the government and EPA are very concerned about this. And I certainly hope that they are able to bring this dispersant issue under control, because we have applied an unprecedented amount of these dispersants. I saw the effects in the water column when I was diving there. And I think that it`s a very worrying issue. We haven`t done the science.

And this is part of a bigger symptom. We`ve underinvested in our oceans for decades. We haven`t conducted the science. We don`t have the knowledge. And we`re kind of flying blind right now.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I agree. I think this is perhaps the worst natural disaster in American history, right up there with the Dust Bowl. I am so glad you are there, down there going to the scene to keep an eye on these people. I don`t trust any of them as far as I can throw a giant oil tanker.

Thank you very much, Philippe. Please come back to ISSUES soon.

COUSTEAU: Always delighted. Will do.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Explosive new accusations in the Haleigh Cummings case. Are detectives strong-arming Tommy Croslin into talking? His lawyer is next.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: After a dramatic river search for little Haleigh Cummings reaches a dead-end Misty`s brother Tommy is screaming foul claiming cops are strong-arming him by forcibly removing him from one jail to another and sticking him into the general population. Tommy`s lawyer is here in an ISSUES exclusive to complain about the cops` latest maneuvers.

What`s next? Will we ever know what happened to this little girl or has the trail gone cold?

Jaw-dropping new developments in the spine-chilling case that shook the nation. Tommy Croslin is yanked out of protective custody and thrown into the general inmate population. Are cops trying to put the squeeze on him to get answers about 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings? Haleigh, of course, vanished into thin air in the dead of night from her Florida trailer home.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MISTY CROSLIN, DISCOVERED HALEIGH MISSING: I got up because I had to go to the bathroom but I didn`t make it to the bathroom. I see the kitchen light on and I walk to the kitchen and the back door was wide open. I didn`t notice about Haleigh until I see the back door open. She`s gone.

That`s all I know is when I woke up -- when I went to sleep, she was there. And then when I woke up she was gone.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: There`s absolutely no sign of this precious child for more than a year. And then the case suddenly explodes. Cops begin furiously dragging the muddy waters of the St. John`s River pulling up you can see it there a large blue ice cooler along with cinder blocks and rope announcing they are no longer looking for a living child, saying Haleigh was murder.

Cops paraded Misty Croslin, of course, she`s the teenager who was baby-sitting little Haleigh on the night she disappeared, around the search site. There she is, in between the two investigators. They`re grilling her on the banks of the river about Haleigh.

They also brought Misty`s brother Tommy Croslin down to the river. We thought for sure, within days, we`d have a solution -- a resolution, closure, maybe Haleigh`s tiny body, something. Then it all came to a screeching halt, a dead-end. No body, no charges, no answers. Just more questions.

And tonight breaking news: Tommy Croslin, that`s Misty`s brother, who is being held in jail on drug charges, as is Misty, making some stunning claims. Tommy says detectives are strong-arming him into talking. Are investigators threatening to charge Tommy with Haleigh`s murder if he doesn`t talk?

That`s what his attorney is saying. He joins us tonight on ISSUES.

Straight out to my fantastic expert panel. But I want to begin with Jim Werter, Tommy`s attorney, in an ISSUES exclusive.

Jim, why are you and your client upset? What is it that you believe cops are threatening you with?

JAMES WERTER, TOMMY CROSLIN`S ATTORNEY: Well, the problem was last week he was transported back to Putnam County from St. John`s County I had no idea he was transported. Then a couple of days after he got there he`s pulled out of his cell for two hours and supposedly just to be interviewed regarding the Haleigh Cummings case which he`s not charged with but right away he asked for my presence.

He wanted his attorney present. They refused to grant that. They kept on questioning him. They made a number of threats to him, various threats that you`ve seen in the motion, but yet he was not allowed to consult with me.

Now, some people said that was an interview but when you`re held at custody and forcibly interrogated that`s not an interview and you have a right to your Fifth Amendment rights.

(CROSS TALKING)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Mike Brooks, you`re the HLN law enforcement analyst. It does sound pretty odd if somebody says I want my attorney here while I`m being grilled but they don`t provide the attorney

MIKE BROOKS, HLN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: Well, they should. I mean personally I don`t have any sympathy for the guy, I mean he`s locked up for drugs. But if he did ask for his attorney to be present, his attorney should be present.

Is he allowed any phone calls at all, Jim or has he tried to contact you or they`re not letting him do that either?

WERTER: Well, no. Initially there were some problems. I`m not sure if it was purposeful or not but now he has free access to me from the phone which is good because Putnam County is about an hour`s drive from me. So we have regular access now on the phone.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Jim, you have joined us before here on ISSUES and you said Tommy knows what happened to little Haleigh.

Let`s listen to what you had to say here on ISSUES.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: In other words, Tommy knows something but you`re saying he`s not responsible but he knows what happened?

WERTER: Again, I will say -- well, I will go with that, yes. I`m quite comfortable in you saying that.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ok. So we`re saying Tommy knows what happened but he`s not responsible?

WERTER: Correct.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Do you believe, Jim, that cops are threatening to charge your client, Tommy Croslin with Haleigh`s murder?

WERTER: Well, you know, the people that interrogated him was Putnam County Sheriff`s office that day last week. One of the lead investigators was actually Florida Department of Law Enforcement, who has been aiding Putnam County. They never uttered those kind of threats. This came out of someplace else.

Now, Tommy has been voluntarily up until --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What came out of someplace else?

WERTER: This threat -- this threat of felony murder.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: We`re hearing that you`re concerned that your client is going to be charged with murder.

WERTER: No, I`m not really. I`m not concerned because he`s not guilty of felony murder. He`s done nothing that would warrant that kind of claim. It`s a threat. It`s a threatening tactic.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, what`s the whole point of this strong-arm tactics by -- yes, it`s a threatening tactic. What are they trying to get? If he knows what happened and he went down to the river and told them what he knows, then why are they threatening him?

WERTER: We covered this before about where the body might have been since it was dumped into that part of the river. And I don`t really want to go over that because it is kind of gruesome. But the fact of the matter is, there`s problems with this case as to charging the person that should be charged. They`re thinking there`s something more. Or there`s inconsistencies between -- minor inconsistencies between Tommy`s story and Misty`s story.

But the fact of the matter is now I`ve been through POW training, I`ve been a cop, I`ve studied these things as well. When you force someone to say something odds are, just like in Gitmo, you`re not going to get an accurate story.

But he`s been volunteering up until a couple of months ago. Until everything just came to a halt. He went to FDLE. I took him to FDLE.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Still don`t understand exactly what you`re saying. I was under the impression that you were afraid that they were threatening to do something else to your client?

WERTER: No, I`m not afraid. I`m upset that they used these tactics in violation of his Fifth Amendment rights.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: What`s their point? What do they want?

WERTER: They don`t know what they want. They don`t know what to believe or what to trust, you know. So what can I tell you?

(CROSS TALKING)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: You know what. Rita Cosby, can you make heads or tails out of what`s going on here?

RITA COSBY, AUTHOR, "QUIET HERO": I mean, it sounds to me that cops are hearing a lot of inconsistencies. And even Tommy`s attorney just said that -- he described them as minor inconsistencies but cops maybe don`t see it as minor inconsistencies.

Either way they see something that`s not jiving. It sounds like with maybe something he said, something Misty said and clearly they`re trying to put some pressure on him to get information.

I understand the attorney`s point. If indeed they`re using these tactics and doing these extreme measures, that`s not appropriate. You still have to act appropriately and I understand his point if that`s true.

(CROSS TALKING)

COSBY: On the other hand, they`re clearly seeing something that doesn`t jive here and they`re going wait a minute, what`s wrong? Why is he not maybe telling the full story? What`s not matching?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: It`s a game of telephone. That`s what it is. And I`ll tell you it all started with Tommy and Misty`s grandmother, ok. She was the one who said Tommy and Misty told her what happened the night Haleigh went missing on the phone.

Let`s listen to grandma because that`s where it all started.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

FLORA HOLLARS, MISTY CROSLIN`S GRANDMOTHER: She said Joe Overstreet and Tommy wrapped the rope around Haleigh and carried her to the dock at the St. John`s River and put a block around the other end of the rope and throwed (SIC) her in the river.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Mike Brooks, the grandmother you just heard from is a very flamboyant character who said she was told certain things by Tommy and Misty. And of course there`s going to be inconsistencies because it`s like a game of telephone with a senior citizen basically trying to interpret to police what her grandkids told her from behind bars.

BROOKS: You know, what`s to believe from Flora Hollars, Jane? We`ve had her on the show. Then all of a sudden we don`t hear a word from her. Is what she was saying totally wrong? Was she making this up just to get her 15 minutes of fame or more? Who knows? Who knows what to believe in this case? This cast of characters is just incredible

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And whatever happened, Jim, to the cousin, Cousin Joe, who Misty and Tommy pointed the finger at and he`s in another state and he has said he has nothing to do with it and then his cousins are trying to take him down. Whatever happened to all that?

WERTER: He`s still sitting up there in Tennessee skinny and happy, just hanging out there. He knows this is mired.

And I need to ask Mike. Isn`t it your professional opinion as a law enforcement officer that different perspectives how people see different scenes and events vary?

BROOKS: Oh, they do. And that`s the whole thing about eyewitness testimony. Is it credible, is it not?

WERTER: Exactly. Exactly.

BROOKS: So, you know, there`s a lot of questions in this case, Jim. Hopefully we`ll get to the bottom of them one day.

(CROSS TALKING)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Or we could be dealing with everybody is a pathological liar in this entire family, and that is why we can`t figure out what`s up and what`s down and where little Haleigh is.

Thank you, fantastic panel.


Coming up, Casey Anthony shockers: speaking of pathological liars, a judge rules on some of the damning evidence in an emergency hearing on Casey. And Casey`s attorney slams the jail for releasing personal information about the young lady you`re looking at right there. It is the most high profile inmate they`ve ever had.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: People come on the door and say, "Casey, where`s Caylee, where`s Caylee," just messing with her and she will just smile. It didn`t bother her.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Casey Anthony is back in court that`s next.

But first tonight`s "Top of the Block".

The horror show that is the Gulf oil spill has become a surreal tragedy of the absurd. The other day right here on ISSUES a fisherman told us he`s outraged because his friends have witnessed, eyeballed BP burning endangered turtles alive in their so-called controlled burns refusing to let his friends, who wanted to save the creatures through the oil containment booms.

As a result environmental groups have now filed a lawsuit demanding BP stop setting these turtles on fire.

So what does the Coast Guard do now? Now they`re restricting public and media access to the oil spill clean-up operations. The Coast Guard is creating a quote/unquote "safety zone" of 65 feet.

Will that allow the powers that be to safely burn turtles alive and commit other atrocities against nature without having to deal with those pesky witnesses who might be outraged because they have a conscience and morals?

If you`re as fed up with this monstrosity as I am, you have to tune in to ISSUES this coming Monday.

My special investigation "Jane`s Fight for Animal Rights" focuses on the apocalypse in the Gulf and what you can do to save these innocent animals. That`s this coming Monday 7:00 p.m. Eastern, 4:00 p.m. Pacific. Please watch. The animals need your help.

That`s tonight`s "Top of the Block".

Accused child killer Casey Anthony back in court: Casey`s legal dream team calls an emergency hearing and battles for a chance to powwow around the damning physical evidence in this case. Casey`s defense wants to bring in high powered experts to pore over every shred of evidence.

They say they`re at a disadvantage since they were not there when the evidence was collected and the defense needs to see it so they can work on a plan to prove Casey`s innocence in the murder of her precious 2-year- old daughter.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CASEY ANTHONY, ACCUSED OF KILLING DAUGHTER: Can someone let me - - come on.

CINDY ANTHONY: Casey, hold on, sweetheart. Settle down, baby.

CASEY ANTHONY: Nobody`s letting me speak. You want me to talk then give me three seconds to say something.

CINDY ANTHONY: Ok, sweetheart.

CASEY ANTHONY: I`m not in control over any of this.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: That is for sure. The defense wants to inspect items from the site where little Caylee`s remains were found. We`re talking about duct tape, bags, that heart-shaped sticker we talked about so often. And Casey`s defense team wants to look at everything in private.

Now, her defense attorney Jose Baez promised the judge, "we will maintain the integrity of the evidence". He asked for a court-appointed mediator of sorts to baby-sit. Well, the judge shot that down. He said no way. He said the defense does have the right to look at the evidence but a rep from the sheriff`s department will be there. In other words cops will be watching them.

Plus, it`s the very first time we are seeing Casey since she fell down and hurt herself and couldn`t appear at some hearings. She looked calm, cool and collected and it`s -- yes, it`s kind of hiding behind a long curtain of hair today. Always a different look, a little curl there in the hair.

Straight out to my fantastic expert panel: Emmy-winning journalist Rita Cosby; HLN law enforcement analyst Mike Brooks; psychotherapist Stacey Kaiser; and criminal defense attorney, Mark Eiglarsh.

Mark, should they be able to view the defense view their evidence; the evidence that the cops have collected in private so they can go over with their experts how they want to handle it?

MARK EIGLARSH, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I think so. But I think the judge is on solid legal footing if he allows a law enforcement officer to be present. The rule here in Florida that governs Discovery 3.220 allows the defense to copy and inspect all evidence that the state has.

So they have a right, they have an obligation to look at everything. It doesn`t mean she`s going to walk free but they must do their job and they`d like to do it without having law enforcement breathing down their neck.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: So it seems, Rita Cosby, that they would like to have a little powwow over the evidence and kind of go over with their expert witnesses hey, how are you going to handle this? Hey, how are you going to handle this? So that they`re all on the same page.

But is that how it`s supposed to work? Aren`t expert witnesses supposed to be truthful and just tell an objective truth and not powwow with defense attorneys?

COSBY: I mean, of course they`re supposed to be independent. But what they`re clearly trying to do is get a look at all the evidence and be able to touch it and be able to see it and do all these things. I`m not surprised that the judge ruled the way they did.

BROOKS: Yes.

COSBY: Obviously, look, the defense team should get this information but also there should be somebody else overseeing it because you don`t want the evidence to get contaminated.

The other thing that`s interesting too, Jane, if you look at the witnesses, these expert witnesses that they`re going for, the new list that we`ve been hearing about, they are experts on dust, trees, also dirt.

So they`re clearly going for sort of this timeline of when the body was found, where was Casey at the time, where you know, Caylee`s body was found "x" place. Could she have been there? They`re going to try to look at forensics; this is going to be a very big forensic case clearly.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: It sure is.

And my big issue tonight, giant strategy session? We`re learning about the experts that Casey`s defense team is bringing on board. As you just heard Rita mentioned, most of them specialize in insects and plants.

It sounds boring, but it`s super important. They`re going to be there to analyze the time of death and even more important when little Caylee`s body was placed at the crime scene you`re looking at right now. How long was she in those woods?

Prosecutors insist that she was put there shortly after she was murdered, which they estimate shortly after she disappeared in June of 2008. But the defense is really riding their entire case on the theory that she was put in those woods after Casey was already behind bars.

Now, Mike Brooks, of course there is this whole side drama of who went to that area to search --

BROOKS: Right.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: -- and who did and who did not see anything. We`ve got the meter reader. We`ve got a cast of characters who were searching for little Caylee and who was in that vicinity.

BROOKS: Well, one of the issues today from the defense Jane, was you know there -- Mr. Baez was saying, well, we didn`t get a chance to come to the scene to search while you were there and that`s why we have to have our four experts there on July 13th and 14th.

But, Jane, if you recall we`ve been following this from the beginning. And I think, Mark, you`ll agree with me. After they were done and they pulled all that vegetation out of the woods, it was right out there in the road and they said, "Hey, it`s your scene, come on." And the defense never showed up.

EIGLARSH: Well, they didn`t have their experts yet, Mike. I mean, Jose Baez --

BROOKS: Oh please.

EIGLARSH: I mean, Jose Baez doesn`t have plans from the leads, from anything. He needs his experts to sit with him now.

BROOKS: Come out there with your video cameras and do what you want.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: One at a time.

BROOKS: He had enough -- he had enough time to find some experts there in Florida to come over and at least inspect the vegetation.

(CROSS TALKING)

BROOKS: So there, cry me a river, Mr. Baez -- that`s what they`re --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. I`m going give Mark the last word.

(CROSS TALKING)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Last word.

EIGLARSH: Ok. I thoroughly disagree with Mike. The defense needs time to get their experts in order --

BROOKS: They do. I have to agree with you on that.

EIGLARSH: -- and now they need to physically look at those specific items.

BROOKS: I agree with you on that.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Got to leave it right there.

Up next, Rita Cosby and her fabulous new book; it`s an amazing story. You have got to stick around for Rita`s story of her dad.

COSBY: Thanks.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: In the "Spotlight" tonight, we`re about to celebrate our freedom and independence. Fourth of July is coming up, people. It`s a fitting time to honor the heroes of World War II. One hero who never told his own daughter about his courageous acts, she went on to become a three- time Emmy-award winning journalist.

Rita Cosby has interviewed newsmakers, presidents and prime ministers but perhaps her most important interview was with her own dad. "Quiet Hero", that is the title of Rita`s new incredibly powerful, touching book.

Rita, your dad lived in the Polish ghetto in World War II terrorized by the Nazis. He was one of the few in all of World War II to stand up to Hitler. What an incredible act of courage that could have gotten him killed. How did you find out about your dad`s heroism?

COSBY: You know Jane, this has been the most amazing story and the most personal story i`ll ever tell in my life. And I actually stumbled upon it about a year and a half ago.

I was looking -- I tell everybody to go through their suitcases and see what they have in like attics or basements. And what happened was I stumbled upon a suitcase after my mother passed away and in the suitcase I found an old, rusty POW tag emblazoned with the words Stalag 4B. And then I found a red and white polish arm band, blood and torn. And then I found a card with code names on it. And then finally Jane, I saw the card of an ex-POW named Ryszard Kossobudzki.

And when I saw this, I thought oh, my gosh, this is my father who has been estranged from us because he left the family when I was a teenager. I said, you know what, I need to reach out to this man because clearly he went through something so harrowing Jane and so heroic. And his story is so incredible and just so inspiring for me as a daughter.

As you pointed out, he could have left. He`s actually not Jewish so he could have left. And instead, he said at the age of 15, "I am staying and fighting for my country and fighting for freedom." And can you imagine it at the age of 15 to have that kind of moral fortitude and moral compass is just so inspiring as a daughter.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Rita, why do you think he did not tell you about this sooner?

COSBY: You know what`s funny? I think he`s part of this greatest generation. And I think there`s something and I picked the title "Quiet Hero" of the book, Jane, because I wanted it to honor all families. Because my father, if you asked him today, even after everything he went through, he would say I`m not the hero. Somebody else was the hero. My comrades were the hero.

And I think that`s indicative of just that incredible humility. And then also, my father went through painful times, very difficult times. He was fighting on the front lines, Jane, and then I also found out he escaped through sewers and the sewers were about 100 yards from his house.

And then the most amazing story of all, Jane, and I get choked up when I think about it, my father was taken into captivity after fighting the Nazis for 5 1/2 years he`s taken to a POW camp and at 90 pounds and 6 feet tall, my father escapes with other prisoners of war.

And there he is, he`s in the woods; it`s two and a half day, you know, they`re skeletons -- walking skeletons. And then a plane comes by; they think it`s a German plane and they dive for the ditches. And it turns out to be an American plane. And it dropped out a chocolate bar with a note wrapped around it with a red ribbon. And the note said, "Welcome, you have 15 miles to walk. Lines are clear during the day. You have 15 miles and you`re free."

So my father here he was 90 pounds jumping up and down and he was free and saved by American troops. And that`s why I wanted this book "Quiet Hero" not just to be a great testament to my dad but to all the U.S. troops out there and I can think of no better cause to help them on the Fourth of July.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Got to leave it right there. I`m so proud of you.

COSBY: Thank you.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wonderful, wonderful accomplishment. Thank you.

COSBY: Thank you Jane.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Don`t miss a very special ISSUES, Monday. Let`s help those innocent animals drowning in oil in the Gulf.

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Post by: Heart on July 03, 2010, 12:40:44 PM
Partial transcript of Jane Velez Mitchell's show 7/2/10 pertaining to the HaLeigh Cummings case:

Questioning Tommy Croslin's attorney James Werter regarding Tommy Croslin's claims of mistreatment while incarcerated at the Putnam County jail.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Explosive new accusations in the Haleigh Cummings case. Are detectives strong-arming Tommy Croslin into talking? His lawyer is next.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: After a dramatic river search for little Haleigh Cummings reaches a dead-end Misty`s brother Tommy is screaming foul claiming cops are strong-arming him by forcibly removing him from one jail to another and sticking him into the general population. Tommy`s lawyer is here in an ISSUES exclusive to complain about the cops` latest maneuvers.

What`s next? Will we ever know what happened to this little girl or has the trail gone cold?

Jaw-dropping new developments in the spine-chilling case that shook the nation. Tommy Croslin is yanked out of protective custody and thrown into the general inmate population. Are cops trying to put the squeeze on him to get answers about 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings? Haleigh, of course, vanished into thin air in the dead of night from her Florida trailer home.

MISTY CROSLIN, DISCOVERED HALEIGH MISSING: I got up because I had to go to the bathroom but I didn`t make it to the bathroom. I see the kitchen light on and I walk to the kitchen and the back door was wide open. I didn`t notice about Haleigh until I see the back door open. She`s gone.

That`s all I know is when I woke up -- when I went to sleep, she was there. And then when I woke up she was gone.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: There`s absolutely no sign of this precious child for more than a year. And then the case suddenly explodes. Cops begin furiously dragging the muddy waters of the St. John`s River pulling up you can see it there a large blue ice cooler along with cinder blocks and rope announcing they are no longer looking for a living child, saying Haleigh was murder.

Cops paraded Misty Croslin, of course, she`s the teenager who was baby-sitting little Haleigh on the night she disappeared, around the search site. There she is, in between the two investigators. They`re grilling her on the banks of the river about Haleigh.

They also brought Misty`s brother Tommy Croslin down to the river. We thought for sure, within days, we`d have a solution -- a resolution, closure, maybe Haleigh`s tiny body, something. Then it all came to a screeching halt, a dead-end. No body, no charges, no answers. Just more questions.

And tonight breaking news: Tommy Croslin, that`s Misty`s brother, who is being held in jail on drug charges, as is Misty, making some stunning claims. Tommy says detectives are strong-arming him into talking. Are investigators threatening to charge Tommy with Haleigh`s murder if he doesn`t talk?

That`s what his attorney is saying. He joins us tonight on ISSUES.

Straight out to my fantastic expert panel. But I want to begin with Jim Werter, Tommy`s attorney, in an ISSUES exclusive.

Jim, why are you and your client upset? What is it that you believe cops are threatening you with?

JAMES WERTER, TOMMY CROSLIN`S ATTORNEY: Well, the problem was last week he was transported back to Putnam County from St. John`s County I had no idea he was transported. Then a couple of days after he got there he`s pulled out of his cell for two hours and supposedly just to be interviewed regarding the Haleigh Cummings case which he`s not charged with but right away he asked for my presence.

He wanted his attorney present. They refused to grant that. They kept on questioning him. They made a number of threats to him, various threats that you`ve seen in the motion, but yet he was not allowed to consult with me.

Now, some people said that was an interview but when you`re held at custody and forcibly interrogated that`s not an interview and you have a right to your Fifth Amendment rights.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Mike Brooks, you`re the HLN law enforcement analyst. It does sound pretty odd if somebody says I want my attorney here while I`m being grilled but they don`t provide the attorney

MIKE BROOKS, HLN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: Well, they should. I mean personally I don`t have any sympathy for the guy, I mean he`s locked up for drugs. But if he did ask for his attorney to be present, his attorney should be present.

Is he allowed any phone calls at all, Jim or has he tried to contact you or they`re not letting him do that either?

WERTER: Well, no. Initially there were some problems. I`m not sure if it was purposeful or not but now he has free access to me from the phone which is good because Putnam County is about an hour`s drive from me. So we have regular access now on the phone.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Jim, you have joined us before here on ISSUES and you said Tommy knows what happened to little Haleigh.

Let`s listen to what you had to say here on ISSUES.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: In other words, Tommy knows something but you`re saying he`s not responsible but he knows what happened?

WERTER: Again, I will say -- well, I will go with that, yes. I`m quite comfortable in you saying that.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ok. So we`re saying Tommy knows what happened but he`s not responsible?

WERTER: Correct.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Do you believe, Jim, that cops are threatening to charge your client, Tommy Croslin with Haleigh`s murder?

WERTER: Well, you know, the people that interrogated him was Putnam County Sheriff`s office that day last week. One of the lead investigators was actually Florida Department of Law Enforcement, who has been aiding Putnam County. They never uttered those kind of threats. This came out of someplace else.

Now, Tommy has been voluntarily up until --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What came out of someplace else?

WERTER: This threat -- this threat of felony murder.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: We`re hearing that you`re concerned that your client is going to be charged with murder.

WERTER: No, I`m not really. I`m not concerned because he`s not guilty of felony murder. He`s done nothing that would warrant that kind of claim. It`s a threat. It`s a threatening tactic.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, what`s the whole point of this strong-arm tactics by -- yes, it`s a threatening tactic. What are they trying to get? If he knows what happened and he went down to the river and told them what he knows, then why are they threatening him?

WERTER: We covered this before about where the body might have been since it was dumped into that part of the river. And I don`t really want to go over that because it is kind of gruesome. But the fact of the matter is, there`s problems with this case as to charging the person that should be charged. They`re thinking there`s something more. Or there`s inconsistencies between -- minor inconsistencies between Tommy`s story and Misty`s story.

But the fact of the matter is now I`ve been through POW training, I`ve been a cop, I`ve studied these things as well. When you force someone to say something odds are, just like in Gitmo, you`re not going to get an accurate story.

But he`s been volunteering up until a couple of months ago. Until everything just came to a halt. He went to FDLE. I took him to FDLE.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Still don`t understand exactly what you`re saying. I was under the impression that you were afraid that they were threatening to do something else to your client?

WERTER: No, I`m not afraid. I`m upset that they used these tactics in violation of his Fifth Amendment rights.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: What`s their point? What do they want?

WERTER: They don`t know what they want. They don`t know what to believe or what to trust, you know. So what can I tell you?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: You know what. Rita Cosby, can you make heads or tails out of what`s going on here?

RITA COSBY, AUTHOR, "QUIET HERO": I mean, it sounds to me that cops are hearing a lot of inconsistencies. And even Tommy`s attorney just said that -- he described them as minor inconsistencies but cops maybe don`t see it as minor inconsistencies.

Either way they see something that`s not jiving. It sounds like with maybe something he said, something Misty said and clearly they`re trying to put some pressure on him to get information.

I understand the attorney`s point. If indeed they`re using these tactics and doing these extreme measures, that`s not appropriate. You still have to act appropriately and I understand his point if that`s true.

COSBY: On the other hand, they`re clearly seeing something that doesn`t jive here and they`re going wait a minute, what`s wrong? Why is he not maybe telling the full story? What`s not matching?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: It`s a game of telephone. That`s what it is. And I`ll tell you it all started with Tommy and Misty`s grandmother, ok. She was the one who said Tommy and Misty told her what happened the night Haleigh went missing on the phone.

Let`s listen to grandma because that`s where it all started.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

FLORA HOLLARS, MISTY CROSLIN`S GRANDMOTHER: She said Joe Overstreet and Tommy wrapped the rope around Haleigh and carried her to the dock at the St. John`s River and put a block around the other end of the rope and throwed (SIC) her in the river.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Mike Brooks, the grandmother you just heard from is a very flamboyant character who said she was told certain things by Tommy and Misty. And of course there`s going to be inconsistencies because it`s like a game of telephone with a senior citizen basically trying to interpret to police what her grandkids told her from behind bars.

BROOKS: You know, what`s to believe from Flora Hollars, Jane? We`ve had her on the show. Then all of a sudden we don`t hear a word from her. Is what she was saying totally wrong? Was she making this up just to get her 15 minutes of fame or more? Who knows? Who knows what to believe in this case? This cast of characters is just incredible

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And whatever happened, Jim, to the cousin, Cousin Joe, who Misty and Tommy pointed the finger at and he`s in another state and he has said he has nothing to do with it and then his cousins are trying to take him down. Whatever happened to all that?

WERTER: He`s still sitting up there in Tennessee skinny and happy, just hanging out there. He knows this is mired.

And I need to ask Mike. Isn`t it your professional opinion as a law enforcement officer that different perspectives how people see different scenes and events vary?

BROOKS: Oh, they do. And that`s the whole thing about eyewitness testimony. Is it credible, is it not?

WERTER: Exactly. Exactly.

BROOKS: So, you know, there`s a lot of questions in this case, Jim. Hopefully we`ll get to the bottom of them one day.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Or we could be dealing with everybody is a pathological liar in this entire family, and that is why we can`t figure out what`s up and what`s down and where little Haleigh is.

Thank you, fantastic panel.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1007/02/ijvm.01.html

WERTER: Well, you know, the people that interrogated him was Putnam County Sheriff`s office that day last week. One of the lead investigators was actually Florida Department of Law Enforcement, who has been aiding Putnam County. They never uttered those kind of threats. This came out of someplace else

Wonder who is the someplace else, other sheriff dept personnel?

Werter states that the threats were not used by the individuals that were in the interview/interrogation, so what is his point? Was the threat done by other LE officers outside of the interview/interrogation last week? Inquiring minds want to know!




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 03, 2010, 12:45:10 PM
Haleigh Cummings - Caylee Anthony - Zachary Pittman – July 4th Update

Posted on July 3rd, 2010
by Simon Barrett in crime

We will be running our regular Sunday program at 3pm central. Once again our focus will be on three cases. We will be looking at the two Florida cases Haleigh Cummings and Caylee Anthony. There is news concerning both of these cases this week.

Over on the Haleigh Cummings case there seem to be some edges beginning to fray. Tommy Croslin’s lawyer James Werter may have made a bit of a blunder on national TV. If you have not read about this, try Peter Hyatt’s take on the event http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/07/tommy-croslins-lawyer-jim-worter.html .

http://www.bloggernews.net/124836


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 03, 2010, 12:48:33 PM
Tommy Croslin's lawyer: Jim Worter

This is not the reaction of a confident attorney. He has told us that his client may be guilty of something, but just not "felony" murder. This suggests that he knows that Haliegh is dead, and that Tommy has had a part in her death, in that he may be guilty of another category of "murder".

more...

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/07/tommy-croslins-lawyer-jim-worter.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: ospainter on July 03, 2010, 03:38:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F31YwvoFVCk

Seirra's utube of JVM's show 7/2/10

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: ospainter on July 03, 2010, 03:47:42 PM
UCN:    542010CF000145XXAXMX
File Date:    01/21/2010
Judge:    TERRY J LARUE
Case Status:    TRIAL
Defense Atty:    SHOEMAKER, TERRY J
Case File Location:   CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant:   CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES
Alias:   No Alias Records

Date   #   Docket Description
01/21/2010   1   COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (1/13/10)
01/21/2010   1   BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
01/21/2010   1   TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE MORE THAN 14 GRAMS LESS
01/21/2010   1   THAN 28 GRAMS
01/21/2010   2   WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $150,000.00
01/22/2010   3   ARREST REPORT - 1/20/2010
01/22/2010   3   BOOKING NUMBER: 10-00276
01/22/2010   3   BOND SET AT $150,000.00
01/22/2010   4   ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO FLAGLER COUNTY
01/22/2010   4   FROM PUTNAM COUNTY, FLORIDA
01/22/2010   5   MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
01/22/2010   5   OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS
01/22/2010   5   RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
01/22/2010   6   ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF
01/22/2010   6   SOURCE OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL (NEBBIA HEARING)
01/22/2010   6   PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS RELEASE ON BAIL
01/22/2010   7   FELONY WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED
02/03/2010   8   INFORMATION - TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (14G - 28G)
02/03/2010   9   MOTION TO CONSOLIDATE FOR TRIAL
02/05/2010   10   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER
02/05/2010   11   NOTICE OF DISCOVERY
02/09/2010   12   ORDER TO CONSOLIDATE
02/10/2010   13   STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
02/10/2010   14   WITNESS LIST
02/10/2010   15   DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE
02/11/2010   16   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-18-2010) IN JAIL
02/11/2010   17   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (02-18-2010)
02/17/2010   18   WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT,PLEA OF NOT GUILTY,AND DEMAND
02/17/2010   18   FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER (FAX)
02/18/2010   19   ORDER SETTING CASE FOR PRETRIAL 03/31/2010
02/19/2010   20   WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT,PLEA OF NOT GUILTY,AND DEMAND
02/19/2010   20   FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER (ORIGINAL)
02/23/2010   21   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL
02/23/2010   22   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)
03/03/2010   23   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
03/17/2010   24   NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY
03/31/2010   25   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER
03/31/2010   25   ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
03/31/2010   25   CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010
04/07/2010   26   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (05-13-2010) IN JAIL
04/07/2010   27   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (05-13-2010)
04/26/2010   28   MOTION TO REDUCE BOND
05/06/2010   29   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:30 PM
05/06/2010   29   MOTION TO REDUCE BOND
05/06/2010   30   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:00 PM
05/06/2010   30   STATE'S MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
05/06/2010   30   OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S
05/06/2010   30   RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
05/07/2010   31   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING
05/07/2010   32   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:00 PM
05/07/2010   32   ISSUED TO: TERRY J SHOEMAKER
05/07/2010   33   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:30 PM
05/07/2010   33   DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO REDUCE BOND
05/10/2010   34   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (FAX)
05/10/2010   35   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING (ORIGINAL)
05/11/2010   36   NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING
05/13/2010   37   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY J SHOEMAKER
05/13/2010   37   STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUNCED READY FOR TRIAL
05/13/2010   37   CASE SET FOR JURY TRIAL 07/19/2010
05/13/2010   38   ORDER SETTING TRIAL 07/19/2010
05/28/2010   39   LETTER FROM ANNETTE SYKES
06/07/2010   40   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-19-2010)
06/07/2010   41   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-19-2010)
06/15/2010   42   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
06/28/2010   43   MOTION TO CONTINUE
07/01/2010   44   ORDER DENYING MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TRIAL DATE AND
07/01/2010   44   GRANTING AS TO LAST CHANCE PLEA DATE

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: ospainter on July 03, 2010, 04:09:23 PM
So his continuance is denied but his request for last chance plea date is granted.

Can't find last chance plea date. but time is running out imo..poop or give up the pot.

Don't blame Judge, when on

05/13/2010   35   STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUNCED READY FOR TRIAL

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 03, 2010, 06:20:58 PM
OS, RC's last date to plea is 7/9.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 03, 2010, 06:25:03 PM
Florida’s Sunshine Law – The Fruit Comes At A Price!

Posted on July 3rd, 2010
by Simon Barrett in Society and Culture, crime


It has been six weeks since we have had any Jail recordings concerning the Haleigh Cummings case. I touched base with the PIO for the St Johns jail today, and I was quite surprised by the conversation. I was merely asking what the schedule was for the release of more tapes.

He pointed out that there were no videos available, both Hank and Lisa are bound by their probation terms to stay within Putnam County. I countered with, ‘but there audio tapes’, these people do talk in the phone.

Yes there are recordings, and yes, they can be released.

more...

http://www.bloggernews.net/124837


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: ospainter on July 03, 2010, 06:28:07 PM
OS, RC's last date to plea is 7/9.

TY

not long off..he better get with the program..time is running out.

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 03, 2010, 06:31:10 PM
So his continuance is denied but his request for last chance plea date is granted.

Can't find last chance plea date. but time is running out imo..poop or give up the pot.

Don't blame Judge, when on

05/13/2010   35   STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUNCED READY FOR TRIAL

OS

Defendant:   CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES

UCN:    542010CF000144XXAXMX

05/13/2010   40   ORDER SETTING TRIAL DATE 07/19/2010 AND LAST CHANCE
05/13/2010   40   PLEA DAY 07/09/2010

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 03, 2010, 06:32:37 PM
OS, RC's last date to plea is 7/9.

TY

not long off..he better get with the program..time is running out.

OS

not long at all and don't look like PC is going to play any games.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on July 03, 2010, 06:40:36 PM
I have no idea where I was but followed a link to someone saying something about the red one is live the black on is the ground and make sure both are wet?
OFTLOG!
(I prolly got that all wrong on how it was said but I almost wet myself!
It had to do with Tommy though, I think.

nethermind.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: ospainter on July 03, 2010, 06:48:35 PM
OS, RC's last date to plea is 7/9.

TY

not long off..he better get with the program..time is running out.

OS

not long at all and don't look like PC is going to play any games.

Don't think so, over crowding in that jail and clear cut and dry case, time to get it done, move on to next case.

Best any of these people can hope for is man/min sentencing, those with more than one charge concurrently. imo.

Don't know how Misty will make out with charges in 2 different counties, might be in for a very long time dunno.

Poor HaLeigh, she is lost in all this mess.

OS





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 03, 2010, 07:24:08 PM
OS, RC's last date to plea is 7/9.

TY

not long off..he better get with the program..time is running out.

OS

not long at all and don't look like PC is going to play any games.

Don't think so, over crowding in that jail and clear cut and dry case, time to get it done, move on to next case.

Best any of these people can hope for is man/min sentencing, those with more than one charge concurrently. imo.

Don't know how Misty will make out with charges in 2 different counties, might be in for a very long time dunno.

Poor HaLeigh, she is lost in all this mess.

OS

That is so true, yes HaLeigh is lost in all this.  She is in better hands now imo.

Werter stating last night that what ever happened to HaLeigh is too gruesome to talk about, makes me want to scream to the high heavens.  Whoever is responsible should never get to see the light of day.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 03, 2010, 07:26:42 PM
I have no idea where I was but followed a link to someone saying something about the red one is live the black on is the ground and make sure both are wet?
OFTLOG!
(I prolly got that all wrong on how it was said but I almost wet myself!
It had to do with Tommy though, I think.

nethermind.

Do you have a link to what you are referring to Patricia?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on July 03, 2010, 07:31:53 PM
I have no idea where I was but followed a link to someone saying something about the red one is live the black on is the ground and make sure both are wet?
OFTLOG!
(I prolly got that all wrong on how it was said but I almost wet myself!
It had to do with Tommy though, I think.

nethermind.

Do you have a link to what you are referring to Patricia?

Unfortunately no. I even tried to retrace my steps but to no avail. It was a group forum though and I believe it was a post from Papa. For some reason even though I unselected it two tabs open and if I close one I close both and only one web address shows in browser history.
Did I mention that I dislike my computer? lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on July 03, 2010, 07:37:59 PM
Tommy Croslin's lawyer: Jim Worter

This is not the reaction of a confident attorney. He has told us that his client may be guilty of something, but just not "felony" murder. This suggests that he knows that Haliegh is dead, and that Tommy has had a part in her death, in that he may be guilty of another category of "murder".

more...

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/07/tommy-croslins-lawyer-jim-worter.html

Another POV on this is that perhaps Timmy and/or his attorney believes that a felony murder had occured but that he is claiming that his client was not involved at that level.
jmvho


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: ospainter on July 03, 2010, 07:39:53 PM
OS, RC's last date to plea is 7/9.

TY

not long off..he better get with the program..time is running out.

OS

not long at all and don't look like PC is going to play any games.

Don't think so, over crowding in that jail and clear cut and dry case, time to get it done, move on to next case.

Best any of these people can hope for is man/min sentencing, those with more than one charge concurrently. imo.

Don't know how Misty will make out with charges in 2 different counties, might be in for a very long time dunno.

Poor HaLeigh, she is lost in all this mess.

OS

That is so true, yes HaLeigh is lost in all this.  She is in better hands now imo.

Werter stating last night that what ever happened to HaLeigh is too gruesome to talk about, makes me want to scream to the high heavens.  Whoever is responsible should never get to see the light of day.

I know she is, just wish they would find her body, really upsets me that people can be so cruel to leave a child out there somewhere. EVIL.

From what Werter said or didn't say last nite, I am thinking he believes that Joe is responsible for what happened, he said something like "someone being arrested" and Joe being skinny, well we know Joe is the only one not arrested well Timmy too. but I think he was talking about Joe.

Werter kinda dug a hole back during the search and believes TC. Guess he didn't listen to earlier tapes with TC saying he didn't know anything and wasn't going to make some something up, which IMO he did in the end. I guess he does have TC's poly results though, who knows, might not have been any questions about Joe on poly.

I hate lies and liars.

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on July 03, 2010, 07:40:08 PM
Tommy not Timmy. Anyway possible that Tommy and/or his attorney believes that not only a murder had occured but that thhe murder would be classified as a felony but that his client was not responsible for the actual murder but some other crime related to the incident such as possibly desposing of a body etc...?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 03, 2010, 07:54:40 PM
Art Harris Says:on June 4th, 2010 at 2:03 am

Spiked:

LE has kept relentless pressure on the Croslins, including the parents, to squeeze Misty and Tommy like a vise, and it worked. It’s unclear if the state attorney has enough to indict in Haleigh’s murder, but they are working hard at it. And in working it, there’s been Croslin collateral damage, including small-time transgressions that have taken Hank Sr, and Misty’s mother, Lisa, to their knees, locked out of jobs and ostracized in Palatka. But from talks with Hank Sr, he sounds much better, grateful a local Pentacostal minister with a tiny church and a giant heart has rented him a room and served up extra spiritual helpings that helped deflate his suicidal feelings and instill some hope.

more...

http://www.artharris.com/2010/05/28/exclusive-wrong-dock-searched-for-haleigh-body/#comment-48184


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 03, 2010, 08:22:13 PM
I have no idea where I was but followed a link to someone saying something about the red one is live the black on is the ground and make sure both are wet?
OFTLOG!
(I prolly got that all wrong on how it was said but I almost wet myself!
It had to do with Tommy though, I think.

nethermind.

Do you have a link to what you are referring to Patricia?

Unfortunately no. I even tried to retrace my steps but to no avail. It was a group forum though and I believe it was a post from Papa. For some reason even though I unselected it two tabs open and if I close one I close both and only one web address shows in browser history.
Did I mention that I dislike my computer? lol

I believe that I ran across what you saw here: A post by l l papa http://forums.radionewz.net/index.php?topic=142.msg8778#msg8778


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 03, 2010, 08:35:52 PM
Tommy Croslin: shut up and stop whining!

July 3, 3:22 PMNashville Crime Examiner Levi Page

Now It doesn't look like there is a deal and it also doesn't look like Tommy Croslin is cooperating with police. Croslin has filed a civil rights complaint against the police! Pathetically whining about "inadequate ventilation" and "defective plumbing."

more...

http://www.examiner.com/x-33505-Nashville-Crime-Examiner~y2010m7d3-Tommy-Croslin-shut-up-and-stop-whining


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 03, 2010, 08:41:13 PM
Heart,just wanted to say have a great weekend and thanks for all the updates from you and all monkeys!  :)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 03, 2010, 09:36:10 PM
Thank you trim and same to you! :.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: alagary on July 03, 2010, 10:43:32 PM
Does Nancy Grace seem stupider every day.? Meters ? I don't know what that is


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: ospainter on July 03, 2010, 11:49:09 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/video/24115459/index.html

Video about TC's recent allegations, don't know if it was posted.

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 04, 2010, 08:51:17 PM
Haleigh Cummings – Caylee Anthony – Zachary Pittman – Radio Wrap For July/4

Posted on July 4th, 2010
by Simon Barrett in Society and Culture, crime

The Haleigh Cummings case continues to seemingly meander. The focus at the moment appears to be on the drug case. But I know for certain that they are still working very hard on the search for Haleigh Cummings. That was very clear from an email I received from a member of PCSO that I hold in great respect.

http://www.bloggernews.net/124850


jaba said,
in July 4th, 2010 at 4:51 pm

Pcso contacted simon thinking simon had a tip based on the wording of this article. Simon was talking about the pittman case with his words.

Someone from pcso wanted to try and work the tip if there was one. Simon made the point that le cares.

I agree.

I wonder if someone sent the link to pcso or they read here at times.
http://www.bloggernews.net/124836


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: sandy leiva on July 05, 2010, 12:07:40 PM
(http://www.actionnewsjax.com/media/lib/1/7/a/e/7aeb54de-3f44-4d56-bb79-6ad00e40ec99/Original.jpg)
in this photo of tc look at the glass window the man standing there next to the blond lady holding papers-doesnt that look like snodgrass?the guy who says he wont rat out his kin,,,,


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 05, 2010, 01:31:34 PM
Sentencing tomorrow for Tommy:

UCN: 542009CF002113XXAXMX
File Date:    11/06/2009

11/06/2009 1 ARREST REPORT - PCSO D/S ALITZER (ARREST 11/5/09)
11/06/2009 1 BOOKING NUMBER: 09-4578
11/06/2009 1 POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE
11/06/2009 1 POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA


06/03/2010 31 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER
06/03/2010 31 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO A/C TO POSSESSION OF
06/03/2010 31 SCHEDULE II SUBSTANCE
06/03/2010 31 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 5 YRS DOC &/OR $5000 FINE
06/03/2010 31 PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI ORDERED, SENTENCING SET 07/06/2010
06/03/2010 32 REQUEST FOR PSI
06/03/2010 35 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
06/08/2010 33 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-06-2010)
06/08/2010 34 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (07-06-2010)

UCN: 542010CF000147XXAXMX

File Date: 01/21/2010

01/21/2010 1 COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (12/22/09)
01/21/2010 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
01/21/2010 1 TRAFFICKING OXYCODONE
01/21/2010 2 WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $100,000.00
01/22/2010 3 ARREST REPORT: TRAFFICKING IN OXYCODONE (1/20/10)
06/03/2010 35 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER
06/03/2010 35 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO A/C TO TRAFFICKING IN
06/03/2010 35 HYDROCODONE (4G-14G)
06/03/2010 35 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 30YRS DOC &/OR $15000 FINE
06/03/2010 35 PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI ORDERED, SENTENCING SET 07/06/2010
06/03/2010 36 REQUEST FOR PSI
06/08/2010 37 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-06-2010)
06/08/2010 38 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-06-2010) IN JAIL
06/14/2010 39 NOTICE RETURNED UNEXECUTED (NOT IN OUR JAIL)
06/15/2010 40 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
07/01/2010 41 MOTION FOR ORDER TO SHOW CAUSE AND ORDER OF
07/01/2010 41 PROHIBITION REQUEST FOR EXPEDITED HEARING
07/01/2010 41 HEARING SET 07/16/2010 AT 2:30 PM
07/02/2010 42 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 07/16/2010 AT 2:30 PM
07/02/2010 42 DEFENDANT’S MOTION TO SHOW CAUSE AND ORDER OF
07/02/2010 42 PROHIBITION REQUEST FOR EXPEDITED HEARING

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 05, 2010, 01:35:51 PM
(http://www.actionnewsjax.com/media/lib/1/7/a/e/7aeb54de-3f44-4d56-bb79-6ad00e40ec99/Original.jpg)
in this photo of tc look at the glass window the man standing there next to the blond lady holding papers-doesnt that look like snodgrass?the guy who says he wont rat out his kin,,,,
Hi sandy!

I do not believe that it was Snodgrass that made that statement. I believe that statement was made by one of RC's uncles.

Also I do not believe that Snodgrass is related to any of these characters.

Here is a pic of Daniel Snodgrass  http://public.pcso.us/jail/adb.asp?IMG=43291


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 05, 2010, 01:42:45 PM
It was Donald Squires http://public.pcso.us/jail/adb.asp?IMG=56219  who it was reported that made the statement:  "I won't squeal on my kin."

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5321.msg898048#msg898048


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 05, 2010, 05:42:50 PM
Cobra Victim Of Good Old Boys Network?

Posted on July 5th, 2010
by Simon Barrett in Op-ed

To understand his anger, you need to understand some of the background to the story. I won’t bother you with the details, but while searching for missing Haleigh Cummings Cobra attempted to revoke the bond of an accused sexual predator, Daniel Snodgrass. This action had a cascade effect, finally resulting in Cobra facing 15 years behind bars on a felony charge. 15 years is a long time for anyone, but for a man in his fifties, it is particularly daunting.

It was the political faction that wanted Cobra to be gone.

more...

http://www.bloggernews.net/124851


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 05, 2010, 06:10:31 PM
Cobra Victim Of Good Old Boys Network?

Posted on July 5th, 2010
by Simon Barrett in Op-ed

To understand his anger, you need to understand some of the background to the story. I won’t bother you with the details, but while searching for missing Haleigh Cummings Cobra attempted to revoke the bond of an accused sexual predator, Daniel Snodgrass. This action had a cascade effect, finally resulting in Cobra facing 15 years behind bars on a felony charge. 15 years is a long time for anyone, but for a man in his fifties, it is particularly daunting.

It was the political faction that wanted Cobra to be gone.

more...

http://www.bloggernews.net/124851



Cobra has indeed had his Bail Bond license reinstated. However his excitement was quickly tempered by the fact that now the state wants to yank his PI license. Citing some little known statute, the Department of Agriculture (yes you did read that correctly) wants to revoke the PI license.
http://www.bloggernews.net/124851#comment-1692840
__________________________

Department of Agriculture

Frank Johns Jr. Johns was 2004 Chairman of the Florida Fruit and Vegetable Association, the powerful lobbying arm of the Florida agricultural industry. As of 2007, he remained the Chairman of the FFVA’s Budget and Finance Committee.
http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2010/05/21st-century-slavery/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on July 05, 2010, 07:00:07 PM
Sentencing tomorrow for Tommy:

UCN: 542009CF002113XXAXMX
File Date:    11/06/2009

11/06/2009 1 ARREST REPORT - PCSO D/S ALITZER (ARREST 11/5/09)
11/06/2009 1 BOOKING NUMBER: 09-4578
11/06/2009 1 POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE
11/06/2009 1 POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA


06/03/2010 31 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER
06/03/2010 31 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO A/C TO POSSESSION OF
06/03/2010 31 SCHEDULE II SUBSTANCE
06/03/2010 31 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 5 YRS DOC &/OR $5000 FINE
06/03/2010 31 PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI ORDERED, SENTENCING SET 07/06/2010
06/03/2010 32 REQUEST FOR PSI
06/03/2010 35 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
06/08/2010 33 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-06-2010)
06/08/2010 34 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (07-06-2010)

UCN: 542010CF000147XXAXMX

File Date: 01/21/2010

01/21/2010 1 COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (12/22/09)
01/21/2010 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
01/21/2010 1 TRAFFICKING OXYCODONE
01/21/2010 2 WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $100,000.00
01/22/2010 3 ARREST REPORT: TRAFFICKING IN OXYCODONE (1/20/10)
06/03/2010 35 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER
06/03/2010 35 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO A/C TO TRAFFICKING IN
06/03/2010 35 HYDROCODONE (4G-14G)
06/03/2010 35 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 30YRS DOC &/OR $15000 FINE
06/03/2010 35 PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI ORDERED, SENTENCING SET 07/06/2010
06/03/2010 36 REQUEST FOR PSI
06/08/2010 37 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-06-2010)
06/08/2010 38 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-06-2010) IN JAIL
06/14/2010 39 NOTICE RETURNED UNEXECUTED (NOT IN OUR JAIL)
06/15/2010 40 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
07/01/2010 41 MOTION FOR ORDER TO SHOW CAUSE AND ORDER OF
07/01/2010 41 PROHIBITION REQUEST FOR EXPEDITED HEARING
07/01/2010 41 HEARING SET 07/16/2010 AT 2:30 PM
07/02/2010 42 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 07/16/2010 AT 2:30 PM
07/02/2010 42 DEFENDANT’S MOTION TO SHOW CAUSE AND ORDER OF
07/02/2010 42 PROHIBITION REQUEST FOR EXPEDITED HEARING

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php

Tommy will be sentenced for the 11/09 drug charge where he was found sitting in his vehicle, asleep, by the bus stop.  The most recent drug charge... he will be sentenced July 16.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 05, 2010, 09:09:48 PM
LLMPapa says:
 
Cobra could go from ZERO to HERO by releasing these recordings he claims to have: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywuJvZl-Ar0 about 1 hour ago via web



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywuJvZl-Ar0


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 05, 2010, 10:48:47 PM
werterlaw YouTube channel

http://www.youtube.com/user/werterlaw#p/a


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 05, 2010, 11:01:37 PM
werterlaw YouTube channel

http://www.youtube.com/user/werterlaw#p/a
werterlaw commented on Jane Valez Mitchell Intervi...  (21 minutes ago)

"Because he and Joe were not there to steal the gun. I'm sorry that I can't comment further. But you're right as to the law. If ANYONE dies in the course of a felony, murder would be the appropriate charge."
http://www.youtube.com/user/werterlaw#


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: mizjay on July 06, 2010, 02:36:36 AM
Heart ~  thank you much for all the updates and who's who. It really gets confusing ! I lurk thru almost everyday hoping for good news and always appreciate your posts and all the other monkeys who keep the faith for Haleigh.
j


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 06, 2010, 07:29:23 AM
Thank you Heart!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 06, 2010, 09:26:51 AM
All are very welcome. There has to be resolution and justice for HaLeigh and the sooner the better, imo.



(http://stephww.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/haleigh-cummings-2.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 06, 2010, 09:29:16 AM
Hank Croslin To Be Sentenced On Drug Charges

Croslin Pleaded No Contest To Trafficking Hydrocodone

POSTED: 6:30 am EDT July 6, 2010
UPDATED: 7:12 am EDT July 6, 2010

WINTER PARK, Fla. -- The brother of the last person to see Haleigh Cummings will be facing a judge Tuesday.

Hank “Tommy” Croslin will be sentenced on unrelated drug charges.

Croslin was moved from the Saint John’s County Jail to the Putnam County jail last week.

Croslin pleaded no contest in April to trafficking hydrocodone.

His sister, Misty Croslin, was baby-sitting Haleigh Cummings when she disappeared last year.

She’s also being held on drug trafficking charges.

http://www.wesh.com/news/24153296/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 06, 2010, 11:06:02 AM
Last night someone using the initials KP was posting at http://www.bloggernews.net/124851, suppose to be Kim Picazio.

I believe the poster starts at KP said,
in July 5th, 2010 at 11:25 pm

Also there is one among multiple posts by KP that reads:


KP said,
in July 6th, 2010 at 12:09 am

Lori: As if that blogger would raise my eyebrows? I think not.

My view of the case? The family will not ever again watch their baby girl grow up. Junior will not play again with his sister. And there are those that can bring some closure to this family’s nightmare who would prefer to continue to thumb their noses at law enforcement. That’s what I think. Same thing as when I was in the case. Same perps)/accomplice(s), same noses. Hopefully in time they will break. And Robbie M. is not Haleigh’s father. Ron is. Confirmed. This is simply ridiculous. I can’t believe you guys would buy that. Like I wouldn’t have gone there? You guys have never underestimated me before, don’t start now.

and


KP said,
in July 6th, 2010 at 12:21 am

Vaquera: Let me make this perfectly clear: I did not pay Art Harris. I did provide funds to support Cobra while he was on the case. I was in Satsuma on March 13th. I would ask Art for general advice regarding timing of releases of info to the media, etc. We had a good and trusted relationship. He would demand triple confirmation of my team’s info, and never worked for or favored our side of the table. He would often publish unfavorable articles about my client, as well as about the Cummings. He simply was able to obtain more info from me regarding the Father’s side due to my releases to him. If Ron’s attorneys had investigators in town discovering facts about Crystal, and released credible info to Art, he would have published that as well. Many times he did come upon disparaging information about my client, and it was published in his articles. If I saw something I could verify was incorrect, I would and would ask him to correct it – as I would every other journalist on the planet. I protected my client. That was my job. Art was absolutely unbiased - he just wanted credible food for his articles. That is his job, and how he earns a living. I never paid Art Harris. Not a dime.

http://www.bloggernews.net/124851


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on July 06, 2010, 11:06:32 AM
I appreciate all the updates as well, I continue to lurk, am so frustrated with all this. Prayers for Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 06, 2010, 11:16:06 AM
KP said,
in July 6th, 2010 at 12:29 am

Regarding the question regarding a search of Shell Harbor, I cannot comment on that.

Regarding Joe being on the radar, absolutely. I have more boxes and databases of investigative material on that individual than any other. I wanted to get to any person that guy had ever spoken to, partied with, passed by, or looked at in town. LE does not need any more theories. They need a break in the silence.


KP said,
in July 6th, 2010 at 12:32 am

Little Bear: No. There was an acknowledgement by both parents, which is reflected in public records. However, it would have been physically impossible for Robbie to have been the Father. I discussed this issue at length to several media outlets during the case. This was a mistaken leak in false information, I counldn’t shut it down fast enough, and it grew legs. Like much of what I’ve read on the case.

Why did I decide to come here tonight? Bill sent me the article (of course). Then Vaquera pissed me off. That’s why.



KP said,
in July 6th, 2010 at 12:54 am

Lori: Bill is a man of many theories. Bill knows what the truth is, and what is BS. If Simon needs more hits here, he got it, huh?

We investigated Joe as much as possible. I often changed my mind about possible suspects, as new information arose. Opinions and theories change as information gets confirmed, or more credible information becomes available. Otherwise, we’d be idiots, correct?

Ronald Cummings is the Father of Haleigh Cummings. I specialize in child custody cases - I’ve been doin’ this a long time.

Well, a really close buddy of mine just sent me an email screaming for me to get off the net. He’s a trusted friend, and I usually defer to his better judgment. I believe once again, I will heed his solid advice. Maybe he’ll come in to take over. Nite all.

*God Bless Haleigh Cummings*



Little Bear said,

in July 6th, 2010 at 12:54 am

Right,Jaba. Redirect: KP, do you believe the 911 call was staged?


KP said,
in July 6th, 2010 at 1:00 am

Little Bear: staged by those heard speaking with the dispatcher? Yes. By LE? Not a chance. Nite, again. I’m half asleep.

http://www.bloggernews.net/124851



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 06, 2010, 11:35:20 AM
07/06/2010 43 SENTENCING MINUTES: COURT ORDERED CASE CONTINUED TO
07/06/2010 43 NEXT SENTENCING 08/06/2010

UCN:    542010CF000147XXAXMX
File Date:    01/21/2010
Judge:    TERRY J LARUE
Case Status:    SENTENCING
Defense Atty:    WERTER, JAMES S
Case File Location:   CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant:   CROSLIN, HANK T JR
Alias:   No Alias Records

Date   #   Docket Description
01/21/2010   1   COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (12/22/09)
01/21/2010   1   BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
01/21/2010   1   TRAFFICKING OXYCODONE
01/21/2010   2   WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $100,000.00
01/22/2010   3   ARREST REPORT: TRAFFICKING IN OXYCODONE (1/20/10)
01/22/2010   4   MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE OF
01/22/2010   4   BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S
01/22/2010   4   RELEASE ON BAIL ("NEBBIA HEARING")
01/22/2010   5   ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
01/22/2010   5   OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL ("NEBBIA HEARING")
01/22/2010   5   PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S RELEASE ON BAIL
01/22/2010   6   ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO ST JOHNS COUNTY FROM
01/22/2010   6   PUTNAM COUNTY, FLORIDA
01/22/2010   7   WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED
02/03/2010   8   INFORMATION - TRAFFICKING IN OXYCODONE (4G - 14G)
02/03/2010   9   MOTION TO TRANSFER TO DIV 52
02/03/2010   10   ORDER TRANSFERRING CASE TO DIV 52
02/03/2010   11   MOTION TO CONSOLIDATE FOR TRIAL
02/09/2010   12   ORDER TO CONSOLIDATE
02/09/2010   13   MOTION AND ORDER TO TRANSPORT
02/09/2010   13   03/05/2010 ST JOHNS COUNTY
02/09/2010   14   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE AND APPLICATION TO THE CLERK FOR
02/09/2010   14   A COPY OF THE INDICTMENT OR INFORMATION AND THE
02/09/2010   14   ENDORSEMENTS THEREON FILED BY: JAMES S WERTER (FAX)
02/09/2010   15   NOTICE OF INTENT TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCOVERY (FAX)
02/10/2010   16   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE AND APPLICATION TO THE CLERK FOR
02/10/2010   16   A COPY OF THE INDICTMENT OR INFORMATION AND THE
02/10/2010   16   ENDORSEMENTS THEREON FILE BY:JAMES S WERTER (ORIGINAL)
02/10/2010   17   NOTICE OF INTENT TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCOVERY(ORIGINAL)
02/16/2010   18   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE AND PLEA OF NOT GUILTY AND
02/16/2010   18   APPLICATION TO THE CLERK FOR A COPY OF THE INDICTMENT
02/16/2010   18   OR INFORMATION AND THE ENDORSEMENTS THEREON
02/16/2010   18   FILED BY:JAMES S WERTER (FAX)
02/16/2010   19   ORDER TO TRANSPORT RETURNED UNEXECUTED - CASE
02/16/2010   19   CONTINUED TO 03/31/2010
02/18/2010   20   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE AND PLEA OF NOT GUILTY AND
02/18/2010   20   APPLICATION TO THE CLERK FOR A COPY OF THE INDICTMENT
02/18/2010   20   OR INFORMATION AND THE ENDORSEMENTS THEREON
02/18/2010   20   FILED BY: JAMES WERTER (ORIGINAL)
03/01/2010   21   STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
03/01/2010   22   WITNESS LIST
03/01/2010   23   DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE
03/11/2010   24   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
03/12/2010   25   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL
03/12/2010   26   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)
03/29/2010   27   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
03/31/2010   28   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER
03/31/2010   28   ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
03/31/2010   28   CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010
04/07/2010   29   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (05-13-2010) IN JAIL
04/07/2010   30   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (05-13-2010)
05/13/2010   31   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER
05/13/2010   31   ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
05/13/2010   31   CONTINUED TO 06/03/2010
05/17/2010   32   NOTICE OF INTENT TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCOVERY
05/18/2010   33   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (06-03-2010)
05/18/2010   34   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (06-03-2010) IN JAIL
06/03/2010   35   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER
06/03/2010   35   W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO A/C TO TRAFFICKING IN
06/03/2010   35   HYDROCODONE (4G-14G)
06/03/2010   35   ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 30YRS DOC &/OR $15000 FINE
06/03/2010   35   PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI ORDERED, SENTENCING SET 07/06/2010
06/03/2010   36   REQUEST FOR PSI
06/08/2010   37   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-06-2010)
06/08/2010   38   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-06-2010) IN JAIL
06/14/2010   39   NOTICE RETURNED UNEXECUTED (NOT IN OUR JAIL)
06/15/2010   40   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
07/01/2010   41   MOTION FOR ORDER TO SHOW CAUSE AND ORDER OF
07/01/2010   41   PROHIBITION REQUEST FOR EXPEDITED HEARING
07/01/2010   41   HEARING SET 07/16/2010 AT 2:30 PM
07/02/2010   42   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 07/16/2010 AT 2:30 PM
07/02/2010   42   DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO SHOW CAUSE AND ORDER OF
07/02/2010   42   PROHIBITION REQUEST FOR EXPEDITED HEARING
07/06/2010   43   SENTENCING MINUTES: COURT ORDERED CASE CONTINUED TO
07/06/2010   43   NEXT SENTENCING 08/06/2010
07/06/2010   44   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (08-06-2010)
07/06/2010   45   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (08-06-2010)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 06, 2010, 11:37:17 AM
UCN:    542009CF002113XXAXMX
File Date:    11/06/2009
Judge:    TERRY J LARUE
Case Status:    SENTENCING
Defense Atty:    WERTER, JAMES S
Case File Location:   CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant:   CROSLIN, HANK T JR

Alias:   No Alias Records

Date   #   Docket Description
11/06/2009   1   ARREST REPORT - PCSO D/S ALITZER (ARREST 11/5/09)
11/06/2009   1   BOOKING NUMBER: 09-4578
11/06/2009   1   POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE
11/06/2009   1   POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA

11/06/2009   2   DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 11/6/09
11/06/2009   2   ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING
11/06/2009   2   SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
11/06/2009   2   $1004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. I
11/06/2009   2   $ 504.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. II
11/06/2009   3   AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS
11/06/2009   4   ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER AT FIRST APP HEARING
11/09/2009   5   $1004.00 (A-1-24 HR CITY BEST) #2229313
11/09/2009   6   $504.00 (A-1-24 HR CITY BEST) #2229314
11/09/2009   6   AMERICAN BANKERS INSURANCE COMPANY OF FLORIDA
01/28/2010   7   INFORMATION (POSSESSION OF SCHEDULE II SUBSTANCE)
01/28/2010   8   ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION TO (POSSESSION OF
01/28/2010   8   PARAPHERNALIA ONLY)
01/28/2010   9   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03/02/2010) IN JAIL
01/28/2010   10   NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (03/02/2010)
02/03/2010   11   MOTION TO TRANSFER TO DIVISION 52
02/03/2010   12   ORDER GRANTING MOTION TO TRANSFER TO DIV 52
02/03/2010   12   ARR TO BE RESET
02/09/2010   13   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE AND APPLICATION TO THE CLERK FOR
02/09/2010   13   A COPY OF THE INDICTMENT OR INFORMATION AND THE
02/09/2010   13   ENDORSEMENTS THERE ON FILED BY:JAMES WERTER (FAX)
02/09/2010   14   NOTICE OF INTENT TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCOVERY (FAX)
02/10/2010   15   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE AND APPLICATION TO THE CLERK
02/10/2010   15   FOR COPY OF THE INDICTMENT OR INFORMATION AND THE
02/10/2010   15   ENDORSEMENTS THEREON FILED BY: JAMES WERTER (ORIGINAL)
02/10/2010   16   NOTICE OF INTENT TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCOVERY(ORIGINAL)
02/16/2010   17   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE AND PLEA OF NOT GUILTY AND
02/16/2010   17   APPLICATION TO THE CLERK FOR A COPY OF THE INDICTMENT
02/16/2010   17   OR INFORMATION AND THE ENDORSEMENTS THEREON
02/16/2010   17   FILED BY: JAMES S WERTER (FAX)
02/18/2010   18   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE AND PLEA OF NOT GUILTY AND
02/18/2010   18   APPLICATION TO THE CLERK FOR A COPY OF THE INDICTMENT
02/18/2010   18   OR INFORMATION AND THE ENDORSEMENTS THEREON
02/18/2010   18   FILED BY: JAMES S WERTER (ORIGINAL)
02/22/2010   19   NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (03-31-2010)
02/22/2010   20   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)
03/31/2010   21   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY
03/31/2010   21   ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
03/31/2010   21   CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010
04/06/2010   22   NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (05/13/2010)
04/06/2010   23   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (05/13/2010)
04/29/2010   24   MOTION FOR ORDER COMPELLING DISCOVERY
05/06/2010   25   STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
05/06/2010   26   WITNESS LIST
05/06/2010   27   DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE
05/13/2010   28   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER
05/13/2010   28   ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
05/13/2010   28   CONTINUED TO 06/03/2010
05/17/2010   29   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (06/03/2010)
05/17/2010   30   NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (06/03/2010)
06/03/2010   31   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER
06/03/2010   31   W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO A/C TO POSSESSION OF
06/03/2010   31   SCHEDULE II SUBSTANCE
06/03/2010   31   ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 5 YRS DOC &/OR $5000 FINE
06/03/2010   31   PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI ORDERED, SENTENCING SET 07/06/2010
06/03/2010   32   REQUEST FOR PSI
06/03/2010   35   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
06/08/2010   33   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-06-2010)
06/08/2010   34   NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (07-06-2010)
07/06/2010   36   SENTENCING MINUTES: COURT ORDERED CASE CONTINUED TO
07/06/2010   36   NEXT SENTENCING 08/06/2010 @ 9:30 AM
07/06/2010   37   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (08-06-2010)
07/06/2010   38   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (08-06-2010)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 06, 2010, 11:39:35 AM
UCN:    542010CF000164XXAXMX
File Date:    01/22/2010
Judge:    EDWARD E HEDSTROM
Case Status:    PENDING CASE
Defense Atty:    WERTER, JAMES S
Case File Location:   CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant:   CROSLIN, HANK T JR

Alias:   No Alias Records

Date   #   Docket Description
01/22/2010   1   COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. L SMITH (1/19/10)
01/22/2010   1   BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
01/22/2010   1   BURGLARY OF DWELLING
01/22/2010   1   GRAND THEFT

01/22/2010   2   WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $5,004.00 TJL
01/22/2010   2   BOND SET AT $2,504.00
01/26/2010   3   WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED
01/26/2010   4   FIRST APPEARANCE FORM
01/26/2010   5   ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO ST JOHNS COUNTY
01/26/2010   5   FROM PUTNAM COUNTY
01/26/2010   6   MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE OF
01/26/2010   6   BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS
01/26/2010   6   RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)
01/26/2010   7   ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF
01/26/2010   7   SOURCE OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL (NEBBIA HEARING)
01/26/2010   7   PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS RELEASE ON BAIL
01/28/2010   8   DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG
01/28/2010   8   ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING
01/28/2010   8   SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
01/28/2010   8   CT I - $5004 AND CT II $2504 SECURED BOND SET
01/28/2010   8   ADD ON CHARGES
05/17/2010   9   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE AND APPLICATIO TO THE CLERK FOR
05/17/2010   9   COPY OF THE INDICTMENT OR INFORMATION AND THE
05/17/2010   9   ENDORSEMENTS THEREON FILED BY: JAMES S WERTER
05/25/2010   10   AMENDED NOTICE OF INTENT TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCOVERY


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 06, 2010, 12:00:03 PM
 dustywoo
 
humm. dumbo next court presence 7/16..then comes ron 7/19 then comes dumbo back 8/6, then misty 8/23 then donna 9/1.gonna b busy 37 minutes ago via web

http://twitter.com/dustywoo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Brandi on July 06, 2010, 01:11:21 PM
Sentencing Continued For Hank Croslin
Croslin Pleaded No Contest To Trafficking Hydrocodone

POSTED: 6:30 am EDT July 6, 2010
UPDATED: 10:37 am EDT July 6, 2010

WINTER PARK, Fla. -- The sentencing for Hank "Tommy" Croslin was continued Tuesday morning.

Croslin was slated to be sentenced on unrelated drug charges.

Croslin was moved from the Saint John’s County Jail to the Putnam County jail last week.

Croslin pleaded no contest in April to trafficking hydrocodone.

His sister, Misty Croslin, was baby-sitting Haleigh Cummings when she disappeared last year.

She’s also being held on drug trafficking charges.
http://www.wesh.com/news/24153296/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on July 06, 2010, 02:38:52 PM
FYI - In the event that SM goes down and doesn't come back up for a long period of time (like an entire day), it's likely because the upgrade to the new server is being done.  It may happen this week.  Don't have an exact date yet but thought I'd give you all the heads up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Curly on July 06, 2010, 02:56:41 PM
Wonder why the sentencing hearing was continued for Tommy?
Any ideas?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on July 06, 2010, 03:33:49 PM
Last night someone using the initials KP was posting at http://www.bloggernews.net/124851, suppose to be Kim Picazio.

I believe the poster starts at KP said,
in July 5th, 2010 at 11:25 pm

Also there is one among multiple posts by KP that reads:


KP said,
in July 6th, 2010 at 12:09 am

Lori: As if that blogger would raise my eyebrows? I think not.

My view of the case? The family will not ever again watch their baby girl grow up. Junior will not play again with his sister. And there are those that can bring some closure to this family’s nightmare who would prefer to continue to thumb their noses at law enforcement. That’s what I think. Same thing as when I was in the case. Same perps)/accomplice(s), same noses. Hopefully in time they will break. And Robbie M. is not Haleigh’s father. Ron is. Confirmed. This is simply ridiculous. I can’t believe you guys would buy that. Like I wouldn’t have gone there? You guys have never underestimated me before, don’t start now.

and


KP said,
in July 6th, 2010 at 12:21 am

Vaquera: Let me make this perfectly clear: I did not pay Art Harris. I did provide funds to support Cobra while he was on the case. I was in Satsuma on March 13th. I would ask Art for general advice regarding timing of releases of info to the media, etc. We had a good and trusted relationship. He would demand triple confirmation of my team’s info, and never worked for or favored our side of the table. He would often publish unfavorable articles about my client, as well as about the Cummings. He simply was able to obtain more info from me regarding the Father’s side due to my releases to him. If Ron’s attorneys had investigators in town discovering facts about Crystal, and released credible info to Art, he would have published that as well. Many times he did come upon disparaging information about my client, and it was published in his articles. If I saw something I could verify was incorrect, I would and would ask him to correct it – as I would every other journalist on the planet. I protected my client. That was my job. Art was absolutely unbiased - he just wanted credible food for his articles. That is his job, and how he earns a living. I never paid Art Harris. Not a dime.

http://www.bloggernews.net/124851

I always thought the picture of Robbie aka Robert Middleton was strange. To me the picture looks like a women not a man. Maybe that's why KP stated it was physically impossible for Robbie to be Haleigh's father. I don't mean any offense to anyone or start any rumors as this is just my oppinion..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on July 06, 2010, 03:40:44 PM
Robbie Middleton..

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/RobbyMiddleton.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Izzy58 on July 06, 2010, 05:55:03 PM
eeeewww gross!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on July 06, 2010, 06:45:00 PM
The link for the picture of Robbie.. Unless there is another Robbie Middleton..

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=748001&IMG=53746


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on July 06, 2010, 07:10:49 PM
Details:

UCN:  542001MM004105XXAXMX
File Date:  10/24/2001
Judge:  PETER T MILLER 
Case Status:  CASE CLOSED 
Defense Atty:   
Case File Location: CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant: CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 
Alias: No Alias Records

Date # Docket Description
10/26/2001 1 COMPLAINT ROBERT PAUL MIDDLETON ASSAULT 

11/20/2001 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION 

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on July 06, 2010, 07:17:16 PM
God Bless Cobra who went out to find Haleigh and get answers also for the Cobra tapes but this Middleton to me is a rumor along with the rumor of someone being pregnant that he implyed one time on BNN. I don't know if he saying this to ruffle feathers or simply received the wrong information..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 06, 2010, 11:59:58 PM
Imho, HaLeigh looks like Crystal and TN. She has TN's hair.

To me the part of Simon's article that was interesting was the part regarding the political faction. 

The item regarding HaLeigh's bio dad was just a throw in for sensationalism, imho.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 07, 2010, 12:01:54 AM
Wonder why the sentencing hearing was continued for Tommy?
Any ideas?
I honestly can't say Curly, but I hope that  whatever happened to HaLeigh will come out between now and August.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: jules3699 on July 07, 2010, 02:19:50 AM
Wonder why the sentencing hearing was continued for Tommy?
Any ideas?
I honestly can't say Curly, but I hope that  whatever happened to HaLeigh will come out between now and August.

Me too Heart!  I wish Haleigh could have had a happy ending just like the story on Alisa Maier found alive in Fenton MO.... 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: 4 Donks on July 07, 2010, 07:58:32 PM
OK ..I admit it I am completely confused. Why would Tommy receive a shorter sentence than Hope or the Equusearch lady? His plea was the same..no contest and I don't remember a plea agreement.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 07, 2010, 08:13:53 PM
UCN:    542010CF001125XXAXMX
File Date:    05/18/2010
Judge:    EDWARD E HEDSTROM
Case Status:    PRE-TRIAL
Defense Atty:    CULBERT, BRUCE P
Case File Location:   CIRCUIT JUDGE DIVISION 53

Defendant:   PAGE, GREGORY LEWIS JR
Alias:   No Alias Records

Date   #   Docket Description
05/18/2010   1   ARREST REPORT - PPD OFF/EGAN (ARREST 5/14/10)
05/18/2010   1   BOOKING NUMBER: 10-2072
05/18/2010   1   POSSESSION OF CANNABIS IN EXCESS OF 20 GRAMS
05/18/2010   1   TRAFFICKING OF HYDROCODONE
05/18/2010   1   POSSESSION OF SCHEDULE II CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE WITH
05/18/2010   1   INTENT TO SELL
05/18/2010   1   POSSESSION OF HYDROCODON WITH INTENT TO SELL

05/18/2010   2   DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 5/15/10
05/18/2010   2   ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING
05/18/2010   2   SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
05/18/2010   2   $1004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. I
05/18/2010   2   NO BOND AS TO CT. II
05/18/2010   2   $2504.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. III
05/18/2010   3   AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS
05/18/2010   4   ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER AT FIRST APP HEARING
05/27/2010   5   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE FILED BY: BRUCE CULBERT
05/27/2010   6   MOTION FOR STATEMENT OF PARTICULARS
05/27/2010   7   NOTICE OF DISCOVERY
05/27/2010   8   MOTION FOR REDUCTION OF BOND
06/02/2010   9   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-01-2010) IN JAIL
06/02/2010   10   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (07-01-2010)
06/02/2010   11   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 06/18/2010 AT 02:00 PM
06/04/2010   12   INFORMATION (TRAFFICKING IN ROXICODONE - 28G TO
06/04/2010   12   30 KG)
06/04/2010   13   ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION TO CTS I & III ONLY
06/18/2010   14   MOTION HEARING MINUTES: DEFENSE MOTION FOR REDUCTION
06/18/2010   14   OF BOND CONTINUED UNTIL FURTHER ORDER OF COURT
07/01/2010   15   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY BRUCE CULBERT
07/01/2010   15   ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
07/01/2010   15   CONTINUED TO 08/05/2010
07/01/2010   16   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (08/05/2010)
07/01/2010   17   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (08/05/2010) IN JAIL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 07, 2010, 08:15:31 PM
OK ..I admit it I am completely confused. Why would Tommy receive a shorter sentence than Hope or the Equusearch lady? His plea was the same..no contest and I don't remember a plea agreement.
Who said that Tommy is getting a shorter sentence than Hope or Donna?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 07, 2010, 08:35:31 PM
werterlaw commented on Jane Velez Mitchell 07/02/2...  (1 day ago)

Alexaklr This has been one of the most emotionally distressing cases of my 20 year career. But I stand by my oaths, the Bar, law enforcement and military, that everybody is entitled to those rights. Even you. However, the only thing that Tommy is guilty of, is succumbing to his own fears. Monday morning quarterbacking rarely is applicable."

werterlaw commented on Jane Velez Mitchell 07/02/2...  (1 day ago)

"@Alexaklr Mr.. Croslin's sentencing date was put off to August 6 for a larger amount of time. This was pre-arranged. People forget that under Steve Brown and my guidance, Tommy came forward to law enforcement to shed new light to find justice for Haleigh. Tommy has been living under a cloud of fear and spiraling drug use for the past year. Unless you are in the midst of all that is going on in this case, it is hard to give an accurate viewpoint. "

     
werterlaw commented on Jane Velez Mitchell 07/02/2... (1 day ago)

Responding to a couple of comments. First, the Sheriff's Office has admitted to interviewing Tommy but leave out alot. Remember, if it's you in the hotseat, you'd be call for your rights! Second, I am aware as to the time of year and the behavior of FL alligators. My backyard is full of them. You're right as to the temperature but broadening all the circumstances and feeding habits to get a clear view of the situation."


http://www.youtube.com/user/werterlaw



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on July 07, 2010, 08:36:41 PM
DON'T MISS DANA PRETZER TONIGHT AT 9PM ET:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub9%20June%202010/Pretzer070710.jpg)

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/radio.m3u


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: 4 Donks on July 07, 2010, 09:43:24 PM
OK ..I admit it I am completely confused. Why would Tommy receive a shorter sentence than Hope or the Equusearch lady? His plea was the same..no contest and I don't remember a plea agreement.
Who said that Tommy is getting a shorter sentence than Hope or Donna?

It was in the jail tapes between Tommy and his wife. They mentioned 3 yrs or up to 44 mos.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 08, 2010, 07:53:30 AM
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/levipage
The Levi Page Show
Date / Time: 7/8/2010 8:00 PM
Category: Current Events
Call-in Number: (347) 838-9781
    Tune in for the latest in the Morgan Harrington, Kyron Horman and Haleigh Cummings investigations!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 08, 2010, 11:15:46 AM
OK ..I admit it I am completely confused. Why would Tommy receive a shorter sentence than Hope or the Equusearch lady? His plea was the same..no contest and I don't remember a plea agreement.
Who said that Tommy is getting a shorter sentence than Hope or Donna?

It was in the jail tapes between Tommy and his wife. They mentioned 3 yrs or up to 44 mos.

I would say that was Tommy and Lindsy wishing and hoping at the time of that visit.

I don't know if you have listened to the tape where Tommy finds out that Hope got fitteen (spelling purposely), and insinuates he would/will off himself if he has to do that amount of time.  I wonder if Judge LaRue will have that tape played during Tommy's sentencing.  And for that matter will Judge LaRue have any of Tommy's tapes played where he expresses his disdain for the local LE.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 08, 2010, 11:31:18 AM
werterlaw commented on Jane Velez Mitchell 07/02/2...  (6 hours ago)

"602redroses, this is why I am up at 4:30 am. One never knows about the truth for sure. But Tommy's rendition pretty well matches up with some other information recieved. In this job, you can always be surprised. Its my job to do my best to seek it, its all attorneys' job."

werterlaw commented on Jane Velez Mitchell 07/02/2...  (6 hours ago)

@KrisDeleon01 Sory, new to youtube and haven't gotten it wired yet. I will rpresent Tommy thru the whole matter. If you have been following this case, theCroslin have stated who the real person of interest is and his violent nature. othing to do with the sheriff's office. " 

http://www.youtube.com/user/werterlaw


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 08, 2010, 03:07:12 PM
LadySadie said,

in July 8th, 2010 at 7:50 am

Another side note of interest, Jason Jolicoeur, Special Agent with FDLE, who at one time was assigned to the Haleigh Cummings case, could use our prayers!

His 4 year old son Ayden has been diagnosed with a rare form of cancer when doctors discovered a tumor on his spinal cord. Called glioblastoma and it is at an aggressive grade 4. There is no cure. There is no shrinking the tumor. The chemo is the best bet to keep it where it is.

If chemotherapy isn’t successful, the family will try proton radiation therapy. All of the treatments and expenses to take care of Ayden will be a heavy burden on the family.

There are two fundraising events scheduled for this week to help the Jolicoeurs. You can find details on the events and other ways to donate to the family by visiting http://www.cure4ayden.com.

Lets all keep this family in our prayers.

http://www.bloggernews.net/124851#comment-1696612


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 08, 2010, 05:07:15 PM
Haleigh Cummings – Caylee Anthony – Zachary Pittman – Update on Sunday July 11

Posted on July 8th, 2010
by Simon Barrett in All News, Society and Culture, crime

Why was there a continuance on the Tommy Croslin sentencing hearing? No-one wants to go on record, but the rumours are running. Our good friend Cobra seems to be in harms way once again. I have questions, I have comments. Did his lawyer Don Holmes do the best job he could have? Local boy going for a position as judge?

more...

http://www.bloggernews.net/124867


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on July 09, 2010, 01:00:24 AM
hi guy i've been out of the loop lately and i see there have been no developments except that tommy's lawyer is saying tommy does know what happened and that it was gruesome and that this is linds's new ms pic (i am rethinking or rather taking awaty the benefit of the doubt status i gave her earlier


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on July 09, 2010, 01:01:29 AM
hi guy i've been out of the loop lately and i see there have been no developments except that tommy's lawyer is saying tommy does know what happened and that it was gruesome and that this is linds's new ms pic (i am rethinking or rather taking awaty the benefit of the doubt status i gave her earlier

hhhm are we not allowed to post pics or am i so out of the loo[p i forgot how ? either way check out her pic
http://www.myspace.com/lindsy_croslin


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 09, 2010, 07:53:04 AM
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/144/m_b047dec2805949b194b556dd840b51f0.jpg)

Lindsy LPN
Lindsy Collins    <????
Female
23 years old
Somewhere New
United States
Last Login: 7/8/2010
This profile is set to private. This user must add you as a friend to see his/her profile.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 10, 2010, 06:11:34 PM
06/29/2010 083.ORDER TERMINATING C/S OBLIGATION FOR MOTHER - AWN
06/29/2010 084.CORRESPONDENCE FROM AWN AND CHILD SUPPORT CLERK IN RE:
06/29/2010 DOCKET NUMBER 83 

https://www.putnam-fl.com/secure/public_menu.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 10, 2010, 08:40:47 PM
Driver Buries Evidence after Crash

Palatka - On Friday (7/9/2010) a Palatka man was arrested on drug charges resulting from a traffic crash investigation. Anthony W. Cone (DOB: 1/30/1971) was arrested for one (1) count of trafficking in controlled substances (Hydrocodone), and two (2) counts of possession of controlled substances without a prescription.

more...

http://www.pcso.us/2010-7-10-a

I wonder if any relation to Peggy Cone!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: clarice on July 11, 2010, 01:13:04 AM
OK ..I admit it I am completely confused. Why would Tommy receive a shorter sentence than Hope or the Equusearch lady? His plea was the same..no contest and I don't remember a plea agreement.
Who said that Tommy is getting a shorter sentence than Hope or Donna?
[/quote

Tommy's trafficking charge was for a very low amount of drugs (4 gms, IIRC). The minimum on that is 3 years. All the others had multiple charges and/or many more pills.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on July 11, 2010, 07:57:12 AM
OK ..I admit it I am completely confused. Why would Tommy receive a shorter sentence than Hope or the Equusearch lady? His plea was the same..no contest and I don't remember a plea agreement.
Who said that Tommy is getting a shorter sentence than Hope or Donna?
[/quote

Tommy's trafficking charge was for a very low amount of drugs (4 gms, IIRC). The minimum on that is 3 years. All the others had multiple charges and/or many more pills.

893.135-1c1 DRUGS-TRAFFIC 4 GRAMS LESS 30 KG   OTHER CNTRL SUBST F F  $100,000.00   
810.02-2b BURGL DWELLING STRUCTURE OR CONVEYANCE ARMED F F  $5,004.00   
812.014-2a1 LARC GRAND 1ST DEGREE 100K DOLS MORE OR LEO SEMI F F  $2,504.00   
812.014-2a1 LARC GRAND 1ST DEGREE 100K DOLS MORE OR LEO SEMI F F  $0.00  6/24/2010 9:34:52 AM
        $107,508.00 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: 4 Donks on July 12, 2010, 05:16:33 PM
OK ..I admit it I am completely confused. Why would Tommy receive a shorter sentence than Hope or the Equusearch lady? His plea was the same..no contest and I don't remember a plea agreement.
Who said that Tommy is getting a shorter sentence than Hope or Donna?
[/quote

Tommy's trafficking charge was for a very low amount of drugs (4 gms, IIRC). The minimum on that is 3 years. All the others had multiple charges and/or many more pills.

893.135-1c1 DRUGS-TRAFFIC 4 GRAMS LESS 30 KG   OTHER CNTRL SUBST F F  $100,000.00   
810.02-2b BURGL DWELLING STRUCTURE OR CONVEYANCE ARMED F F  $5,004.00   
812.014-2a1 LARC GRAND 1ST DEGREE 100K DOLS MORE OR LEO SEMI F F  $2,504.00   
812.014-2a1 LARC GRAND 1ST DEGREE 100K DOLS MORE OR LEO SEMI F F  $0.00  6/24/2010 9:34:52 AM
        $107,508.00 

Thanks for the clarification.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on July 12, 2010, 09:19:16 PM
WARNING******WARNING******WARNING

10:30PM CST - DOWNTIME - APPROX 1HR

TONIGHT AT APPROX 10:30PM CENTRAL TIME THE FORUM AND FRONT PAGE WILL BE DOWN. WE WILL BE COMPLETING STEP 1 OF A TWO STEP PROCESS.  WE SHOULDN'T BE DOWN MORE THAN AN HOUR OR SO TONIGHT.

WE WILL BE MOVING TO A NEW SERVER! 

TOMORROW NIGHT WE UPGRADING SOME THINGS AND MAY BE DOWN FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.  NOT SURE ON THAT YET.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: ospainter on July 12, 2010, 09:36:10 PM
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-07-12/story/croslin-hearing-jail-interrogation-cancelled

Croslin hearing on jail interrogation cancelled
Posted: July 12, 2010 - 4:25pm

By Dana Treen

A hearing to request that investigators not question Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr. without his attorney present has been cancelled after the Putnam County Sheriff's Office agreed not to do so again.

Croslin is the brother of Misty Croslin, who was watching 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings before she disappeared from home in Satsuma in February 2009. He is in jail awaiting sentencing on a drug trafficking charge unrelated to the missing girl, who has not been found.

In a motion June 28, attorney James Werter said Croslin, 23, was taken from his cell, interrogated and threatened he would be charged with murder regarding Haleigh if he did not cooperate.

A hearing on the motion was scheduled for Friday.

Today, Chief Deputy Rick Ryan said the agency agreed not to question Croslin without notifying Werter. He said he would not comment on specifics in Werter's motion.

"We're not going to knowingly violate anybody's rights," Ryan said. Any indications that officers had acted improperly would have resulted in an internal investigation, he said.

Werter said he requested the hearing be dropped after investigators agreed not to talk to Croslin without him present.

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: ospainter on July 13, 2010, 12:50:56 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/news/24242370/detail.html

POSTED: Tuesday, July 13, 2010
UPDATED: 12:44 pm EDT July 13, 2010

Judge Rules Against Croslin's Motion

Croslin Claimed Detectives Threatened Him

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- A Putnam County judge has ruled against Hank Croslin Jr., who claimed detectives threatened him and treated him poorly in jail.

Croslin is the brother of Misty Cummings, the last person known to have seen 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings before she disappeared last year.

Croslin's motion claimed detectives threatened to charge him with Haleigh's murder if he didn't cooperate. As a result, he wanted to be moved out of the Putnam County Jail.

But the judge dismissed the motion, saying Croslin is not being harassed by detectives and they have every right to question him about Haleigh's disappearance.

Croslin is set to be sentenced on drug charges Aug. 2.

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 13, 2010, 04:09:32 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/news/24242370/detail.html

POSTED: Tuesday, July 13, 2010
UPDATED: 12:44 pm EDT July 13, 2010

Judge Rules Against Croslin's Motion

Croslin Claimed Detectives Threatened Him

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- A Putnam County judge has ruled against Hank Croslin Jr., who claimed detectives threatened him and treated him poorly in jail.

Croslin is the brother of Misty Cummings, the last person known to have seen 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings before she disappeared last year.

Croslin's motion claimed detectives threatened to charge him with Haleigh's murder if he didn't cooperate. As a result, he wanted to be moved out of the Putnam County Jail.

But the judge dismissed the motion, saying Croslin is not being harassed by detectives and they have every right to question him about Haleigh's disappearance.

Croslin is set to be sentenced on drug charges Aug. 2.

OS


But the judge dismissed the motion, saying Croslin is not being harassed by detectives and they have every right to question him about Haleigh's disappearance.

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeySlide::

Wonderful!  Go Judge go!  Werter stfu!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: fatcatlurker on July 13, 2010, 07:56:41 PM
Good Job Judge!  Werter is a knuckle head.  I see same old same old...still lurken and waiting for justice for Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: can on July 14, 2010, 08:45:28 AM
Good Job Judge!  Werter is a knuckle head.  I see same old same old...still lurken and waiting for justice for Haleigh.

 ::HelloKitty:: fatcatlurker.  Me too!  Justice for Haleigh!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: ospainter on July 14, 2010, 02:15:46 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/video/23837549/index.html

Misty back in court in St John's CO.

New Video

more on news4jax at 6 per video

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on July 14, 2010, 05:55:46 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/video/23837549/index.html

Misty back in court in St John's CO.

New Video

more on news4jax at 6 per video

OS
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/Misty.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 14, 2010, 06:07:57 PM
Det. Domminick Pape with FDLE
Wed, 14 Jul 2010

Detective Pape tells WSKY what he can regarding progress in the Haleigh Cummings case

http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/32593804/det-domminick-pape-with-fdle.htm?pageid=28469


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 14, 2010, 06:27:48 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/video/23837549/index.html

Misty back in court in St John's CO.

New Video

more on news4jax at 6 per video

OS
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/Misty.jpg)


I believe that is the video from Misty's pretrial hearing appearance on June 8th.

Misty Cummings Quiet In Pretrial Hearing
http://www.news4jax.com/news/23831637/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: ospainter on July 14, 2010, 06:30:42 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/video/23837549/index.html

Misty back in court in St John's CO.

New Video

more on news4jax at 6 per video

OS

Sorry that was the 6 report..

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: ospainter on July 14, 2010, 06:32:12 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/video/23837549/index.html

Misty back in court in St John's CO.

New Video

more on news4jax at 6 per video

OS
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/Misty.jpg)


I believe that is the video from Misty's pretrial hearing appearance on June 8th.

Misty Cummings Quiet In Pretrial Hearing
http://www.news4jax.com/news/23831637/detail.html

Yep not new except to me..

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: strayze on July 15, 2010, 11:59:39 AM
I wonder how pudgey  she is, now that it is a month+ later.  She must love prison food, that is if she isn't getting money for eating goodies from her parents.  Looks like the drugs keep her slim.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 15, 2010, 04:53:36 PM
Joe Pytko is back in the slammer.    PROB VIOLATION     http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=761912&IMG=44656


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 15, 2010, 05:17:14 PM
Judicial panel to question hopefuls

By Kristin Chambers
Published: Thursday, July 15, 2010 12:41 AM EDT
Potential replacements for Circuit Judge Edward Hedstrom may be selected today by the Judicial Nominating Commission following interviews of 19 applicants in Palatka.

The commission's deadline is Monday. However, chairman William Voges said he anticipated the work to be complete tonight.

"Our plan will be to begin deliberations the minute we finish interviews, and our past process has been to come to a conclusion and get a letter to the governor the day that we do the interviews," he told the Daily News on Wednesday.

"If we need for time or more information we would roll into Friday, but in the past the commission has preferred to stay and deliberate while we are there and all the information is fresh in front of us."

The interviews are open to the public. The sessions begin at 8:30 a.m. in the old county commission meeting room at 107 N. Sixth St.

Hedstrom, who has presided over high-profile murder trials, announced his retirement in early May. He will leave the bench Oct. 1.

Though his term ends in 2014, judges must retire before their 70th birthday unless they have served over half their term. Because Hedstrom's 70th birthday will come before the halfway point in his current term, he faces mandatory retirement.

His replacement will be chosen by the governor from the list assembled by the nominating commission.

In addition to the majority of defense attorneys and prosecutors, two current county judges are vying to become circuit judges.

Applicants must have been members of the Florida Bar for the preceding five years, registered voters and must be residents of the territorial jurisdiction of the court office.

Voges said the nine nominating commission members spoke to about 300 references prior to today's interviews.

"In general, we look at a number of factors starting with legal ability, temperament, demeanor, community experience and life experiences," he said.

The commissioners also will review background checks and other information.

"They call attorneys that have appeared on the other side of cases and other members of the legal community, and the chair usually reviews the list of applicants with anywhere from six to 12 of the city or county court judges within the circuit," Voges said.

"It gives you a good impression of what the candidates are like in the courtroom setting and how they handle themselves in front of the court and clients."

Additional input comes from calls from the community, letters of recommendation and a writing sample, Voges said.

"The interviews will be geared toward giving the applicant the opportunity to tell us about their interests in the bench and judgeship and why they are qualified," he said.

Voges said he expected the panel's choices to be announced Friday.

Those to be interviewed include:

n Christopher France, assistant state attorney, of Palatka.

n Joe Boatwright, assistant state attorney, of Palatka.

n Garry L. Wood, attorney, of Palatka.

n Terrill L. Hill, attorney, of Palatka.

n Donald E. Holmes, attorney, of Palatka.

n Elizabeth A. Morris, county judge, of Crescent City.

n R. Mitchell Prugh, attorney, of Melrose.

n John W. Stephenson, attorney, of Palatka.

n John A. Wethington III, assistant state attorney, of Putnam County.

n Steven C. Henderson, attorney, of Volusia County.

n Gerard F. Keating, attorney, of Daytona Beach.

n Mitchel Novas, attorney, of Daytona Beach.

n John M. Selden, division chief for west Volusia County.

n Clifford A. Taylor, attorney, of Tallahassee.

n Alfred Washington Jr., attorney, of Daytona Beach.

n Michael B. Wingo, attorney, of Deland.

n Patti A. Christensen, county judge, of St. Johns County.

n Sheron Feliciano, attorney, of Flagler County.

n Eric K. Neitzke, attorney, of Daytona Beach.

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2010/07/15/news/news01.txt


Cobra Victim Of Good Old Boys Network?


At the time I told Cobra that he was insane! He needed someone outside of the closed loop. Of course it is easier to herd cats than get Cobra to change his mind on almost anything!

    Don Holmes comes well recommended, Don Holmes will do me right

It was not very long before the attitude had changed. The love affair was over, however Cobra still had high hopes that Don Holmes would come through.

http://www.bloggernews.net/124851


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Heart on July 15, 2010, 05:37:51 PM
Haleigh Cummings Search – A Comment From FDLE

Posted on July 15th, 2010
by Simon Barrett in crime

I was talking to my good friend TJ Hart of The Sky 97.3 yesterday, while he was out covering another news story he happened to bump into Dominic Pape of the FDLE. Dominic Pape is one of the FDLE resources working on the Haleigh Cummings case.

While there was little new to be learned from this brief encounter, it does show that the case is still a very active one. We can only hope that at some point soon some answers will start to emerge, and charges will be placed on those guilty.

more...

http://www.bloggernews.net/124906


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 15, 2010, 05:54:39 PM
July 15, 2010
Cindy Anthony testifies about "dead body" smell


Orlando, FL - A Florida judge has ruled that 911 calls made by Cindy Anthony about her missing grandaughter are admissible at Casey Anthony's murder trial next year.
Cindy Anthony testified Thursday she told a 911 operator there was a "dead body" smell in her daughter's car in an attempt to get police to respond faster to her call.  Casey Anthony's brother, Lee, also testified at the hearing

http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/15/cindy-anthony-testifies-about-dead-body-smell/


 ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: klaasend on July 15, 2010, 08:53:32 PM
You may notice some short downtimes for the next 24 hours as everything transitions to the new server.  For the time being I've disabled attachments.  I should be able to change that back tomorrow.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: San on July 15, 2010, 09:22:25 PM
GET READY I'M GOING TO LOCK THIS THREAD


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 -
Post by: San on July 15, 2010, 09:25:31 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/Scared%20Monkeys/LOCKED2.gif)

PLEASE MOVE TO THE HALEIGH MARIE CUMMINGS THREAD #38

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7934.0