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I am going to have to get used to changing threads at 50 again!  LOL

Thanks for the clean Cage Nut.
B

NRCG posted:

Maybe the family finally put money in her account hoping she would choke on a peanut?


LOL, wishful thinking on Georgieboy's part!!  I doubt the family had anything to do with the deposit....strictly sin-cin IMO.....it was obvious to me that georgieboy is still pizzed at 'Hi Beautiful!'  and IMO he's better do more than get pisses...he'd better get a REAL attorney and tell the truth about all he knows about Caylee's death and disposal, before he is accused of both in court!!

Blink, you and our tyrannical ruler really got BOZO's knickers in a knot!  LOL   has you received notice of a lawsuit yet!   ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

bringing this over from the last thread....


Quote from: cookie on July 29, 2010, 08:36:01 AM
well geez Bozo! my house isn't what it was worth a few years ago either and I am trying to sell it at a price that is far less than it was worth a few years ago...But I still pay my bills on it!! I think that a lot of folks have found that their homes have lost value recently but doesn't mean that you don't pay your darn mortgage! Anthonys too!!! pay your damn bills! get off your butts and work like other folks who have a home to maintain! grrrrrr....no reason that those 2 idiots aren't working imo...

Cookie, I agree. Our home is not worth what it was when we bought it 3 years ago. and yep...we pay the mortgage and keep it up and pay our bills. We are not looking for a way out!

I do have to say that if in fact georgieboy is not working....what the hell is he doing all day? what are both of them doing all day? I wonder about their animals too. Is this 31% of their ANTICIPATED INCOME, their new mortgage amount, based on sin-cin milking the system? How long can she do that? I wonder what this disability is based on? Is this from private insurance or is she milking the medicaid system???

your thoughts????  Something for Blink to sink her teeth into perhaps??

Hey Blink, I still can't get beyond your home page on BOC......is it still server issues?

Thanks for sharing that video with us, Deenie.
Caylee was so beautiful and sweet. 

And I feel guilty for saying that, I'm just so darn mad and frustrated over this all, and like everyone hear just want justice for Caylee. I really think Baez is on the way out also, at least that is what my crystal ball said this morning  ::MonkeyTongue::

forget feeling guilty my friend.....not warranted!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Our house isn't either, but doesn't give you the right to not pay the mortgage. Now granted my heart goes out to all hard working people that just can't from losing their jobs  ::MonkeyAngel::  but this man is a lawyer and I personally don't understand this. And doesn't it just figure that the Anthonys landed on their feet again?  ::MonkeyNoNo::

::MonkeyHaHa:: I couldn't help myself when I saw the bag of peanuts.

It is, thanks Deenie  ::MonkeyAngel::

This whole refi crud really ticks me off.  The A's note was not that high but I think that once they heard from Conway and Baez that they were in foreclosure and heard how it's done they wanted in on it too.  Once they got the dope on how to do it, they got started.  Stop paying, spend the money on anything you want, perfect for them.  It's such a farce. This downturn should not be permanent for them.  Her disability pymt would have covered an 800 $ note, they are both able bodied and could expect to be employed in the future with earnings to support that payment.

So once again, Caylee's murder has been the stepping stone for the ride down easy street. Because of Caylee's murder they stopped working, because of her murder, they couldn't get jobs, because of her murder the house went into foreclosure, because of her murder they got put on the fast track for refi, because of her murder now they are able to freely contribute money into the murderer's account.  And if that's not bad enough, Cindy doesn't hang out with Jim L the ABC exec for nothing. There will be TV money coming to them once this is over.  Nice to get your note down to 400 or so and still rake in cash later.  How many ways can they use that baby's death?

I so totally agree..............when people profit so much from a murder it makes you wonder if they had anything to do with it doesn't it?

Oh yeah it really does. From the minute they learned the scam ropes from the Milsteads they have been accessories at the very least,imo. 

They figured this out very early on, whether kc told cindy or they just put it all together. Hooking up with grifters cinched it. Their psyche is skewed, Caylee was never coming back and they knew it. I think it was a well thought out decision to use the murder to get paid for their loss. In their minds, they deserved all the gold.  They had to deal with the outrage, they had to keep the Caylee is alive afloat but they also had to appease their psychotic kid.  What better way than to stick with the kidnap story which supports kc's innocence and is the cornerstone of their "charity".  All this other stuff is icing on the cake, if they can just hold out a little longer, put up with some negative flak, their life will change and let them truly enjoy the fruits of their labor.

It's the same premise that Conway and Baez use. Two lawyers, working pro bono, spending untold hours not getting paid..........they both understand, they will get compensated if they just see this thru.

How long does Cindy's disability pay I wonder?
This is long term from her job. Does it cover until she officially is retirement age? If that's the case, what a great policy.

Took Cindy a while to come to the rescue for Casey, but she finally showed up. Speaks volumes that George Marie wasn't the one to run down to the jail with the $. I think Georgie girl has finally disconnected himself from his beloved murderer.

Excellent question as to what they do all day. Probably stay as far apart as possible. George probably sneaks out before the witch awakens.

http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/07/casey-anthony-lawyer-facing-fo.html
WDBO Local News      
Casey Anthony lawyer facing foreclosure
By
Ray Caputo
@ July 29, 2010 1:32 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
Casey Anthony's spending account at the Orange County Jail is caught up now. Her mom made a deposit Tuesday that covered her overdrawn balance of $40 and left her with more than $90 to play with.

Now it's one of her attorneys that is having the money problems.

Osceola County records show Jose Baez's home in the gated Kissimmee Bay community is in foreclosure. The notice was filed two months ago by LaSalle Bank.

The 3,000 square-foot house with screened in pool and fireplace was purchased in May 2007 for $670,000. The most recent property appraisal now sets its value at under $400,000.

Baez has had financial troubles in the past involving bad checks and paying child support.

Curly my husband has been in HR for 30 years....I asked his opinion:

he says if she had vacation and other personal days accrued she probably took that, then went on short term disability, then to long term disability. A total of about 2 years depending on company policy. But 2 years would probably be max with any company. He didn't know much about SS disability....so I googled it   http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10029.html#part5

the way I read it she would not qualify unless she has a doctor willing to go along with her lies...

Who can get Social Security disability benefits?
Social Security pays benefits to people who cannot work because they have a medical condition that is expected to last at least one year or result in death. Federal law requires this very strict definition of disability. While some programs give money to people with partial disability or short-term disability, Social Security does not.

 
a five-step process to decide if you are disabled.

   1.

      Are you working?
      If you are working and your earnings average more than a certain amount each month, we generally will not consider you disabled. The amount changes each year. For the current figure, see the annual Update (Publication No. 05-10003).

      If you are not working, or your monthly earnings average the current amount or less, the state agency then looks at your medical condition.
   2.

      Is your medical condition “severe”?
      For the state agency to decide that you are disabled, your medical condition must significantly limit your ability to do basic work activities—such as walking, sitting and remembering—for at least one year. If your medical condition is not that severe, the state agency will not consider you disabled. If your condition is that severe, the state agency goes on to step three.
   3.

      Is your medical condition on the List of Impairments?
      The state agency has a List of Impairments that describes medical conditions that are considered so severe that they automatically mean that you are disabled as defined by law. If your condition (or combination of medical conditions) is not on this list, the state agency looks to see if your condition is as severe as a condition that is on the list. If the severity of your medical condition meets or equals that of a listed impairment, the state agency will decide that you are disabled. If it does not, the state agency goes on to step four.
   4.

      Can you do the work you did before?
      At this step, the state agency decides if your medical condition prevents you from being able to do the work you did before. If it does not, the state agency will decide that you are not disabled. If it does, the state agency goes on to step five.
   5.

      Can you do any other type of work?
      If you cannot do the work you did in the past, the state agency looks to see if you would be able to do other work. It evaluates your medical condition, your age, education, past work experience and any skills you may have that could be used to do other work. If you cannot do other work, the state agency will decide that you are disabled. If you can do other work, the state agency will decide that you are not disabled.

http://www.wftv.com/news/24437188/detail.html
Jose Baez May Lose $670K Kissimmee Home
Posted: 11:49 am EDT July 29, 2010Updated: 5:05 pm EDT July 29, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The case against Casey Anthony could be taking a financial toll on her lead defense attorney, Jose Baez. Court records show Jose Baez's house, which he bought for $670,000, is in foreclosure.

His top client, Casey Anthony, hasn't been able to pay him in months, but taxpayers are funding Casey's defense.

Baez and his wife live less than one mile inside the gates of Kissimmee Bay (see map), which is a country club community in Osceola County. It's a private community and it's close to his office, but now he could lose it.

Defense attorney Jose Baez borrowed $603,000 three years ago, to buy the $670,000 house. The home has a screened-in pool and a fireplace. His monthly mortgage payment is $4,500.

The problem is court records show he hasn't made a payment for about one year, since August 2009. But that didn't stop him from skipping his client Casey Anthony's hearing on June 21 because of his vacation in Paris, according to his co-counsel.
Even though the ABC Network paid Casey more than $200,000 for all of her photos and videos of Caylee, Baez said the fee he was paid for handling her check fraud and murder cases was less than $90,000.

He's now two years into the murder case. The defense is out of money and now taxpayers are paying Casey's legal expenses.

WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said a high-profile case like Casey’s can be a financial burden instead of a boon.

“It can be all consuming and people's perception is that you're so busy with this big case you don't have time for their case,” Sheaffer said.

Baez wouldn't talk to WFTV on camera about the foreclosure, but would only say the house is not on the market and that it is a personal matter.

After making $4,500 mortgage payments for two years, he still owes $601,000 on the house and it's most recently been appraised at $397,000.

Well the Kid Finders web page is under construction and it seems Kid Finders is expanding. It sends you to http://www.extremesearchandrescue.com/index.html
My, how impressive! But I noticed no names are mentioned. Hmmmm, interesting.

Under links are the following companies:
1. Kid Finders Network (They support themselves!)
2. Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation (Surprise!)
3. A-Z Missing Children's Outreach Center, Inc. (Not sure about this one)
and
4. D&A Investigations, Inc.

Mailing Address:
Post Office Box 284
Longwood, Florida 32779
 
Phone: 407.448.4565

This phone number is a personal unlisted cell coming from Winter Park, FL

D&A Investigations, Inc
2735 W State Road 434, Longwood, FL 32779 » Map (407) 448-4565

 ::MonkeyBike::

Thanks Boo!  ::HelloKitty::

http://www.bloggernews.net/124995
More Woes For Casey Anthony Attorney Jose Baez
Posted on July 29th, 2010

Cindy probably got SS disability for psych reasons.....depression is my guess.
My SIL has been getting SSD benefits for 5 years because of depression.

Goes to prove you can make a living out of missing/exploited persons without ever doing a thing. Play the game right and solicit donations and grants without actually looking or finding anyone. It's a scammers paradise to prey on the generosity of hard working folks who don't know the back story.  Why else would the CMA Foundation still be in operation? Because it's profitable.  Especially when they're not respected enough to be called upon to perform, so the expenditures are not really a factor.  Barf.

thanks Boo.....good info.....They just need to form an umbrella called Scumbags Inc.

He just can't seem to pay his bills can he......from child support to mortgage to court reporters....be he did mange to go to Paris on vacation!!

that's a possibility....I am sure she could find some sleazy bag doctor to back up her claim....depression is a very real disease.....but it is also one of the most abused diagnosis

 ::rhino:: ::rhino::

Thanks, Sunny. That's interesting. Maybe she has a dr. going along with her because two years is gone.
It's not easy to get disability even for people who are really disabled.

http://www.wesh.com/news/24442681/detail.html
Attorney: New Law Prevents Baez From Stepping Down

POSTED: 5:21 pm EDT July 29, 2010
UPDATED: 5:40 pm EDT July 29, 2010
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. --
Attorney Jose Baez insists the foreclosure on his Kissimmee home will not affect his defense of Casey Anthony.

Baez said he has no desire to leave the capital case despite financial trouble.

Legal experts said they doubt Baez would even be allowed to withdraw from the case.
An amendment went into effect this month in Florida that bans judges from appointing attorneys where an indigent client has already retained and paid a lawyer. Experts said the idea is to prevent a private attorney from pulling out once a client’s money runs out.

Criminal defense attorney Jeff Deen said Baez may have a tough time juggling this high-profile case along with his personal money challenges. Deen said Baez would not be allowed to withdraw as Anthony’s lead attorney.

“He's in now. I would be shocked if Judge Perry let anyone withdraw now,” said Deen.

Deen said the new law, enacted this year by the Florida legislature, was enacted in response to the Anthony case.
“If you start out with a private lawyer and ask the state to pay your costs, and if that lawyer tries to withdraw, it's not permitted by statute anymore that the person would get a state appointed lawyer,” said Deen.

Under the old law, privately retained attorneys who had already been paid could step down, leaving the state of Florida to pick up the cost of paying a new lawyer.

Baez did not return a request for comment Thursday afternoon
Video at link

Deen said the new law, enacted this year by the Florida legislature, was enacted in response to the Anthony case.     ::MonkeyCool::

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
07/29/2010           Notice of Taking Deposition Upon Oral Examination
07/29/2010           Notice of Taking Deposition Upon Oral Examination
07/29/2010           Notice of Taking Deposition Upon Oral Examination
07/29/2010           Notice of Taking Deposition Upon Oral Examination
07/29/2010           Notice of Provision of Supplemental Discovery

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/07/casey-anthony-wesh-explains-why-jose-baez-is-here-to-stay.html
Casey Anthony: WESH explains why Jose Baez is here to stay
Caylee and Casey Anthony, George and Cindy Anthony, Orlando, WESH, WFTV, WKMG — posted by halboedeker on July, 29 2010 6:17 PM
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Jose Baez’s money troubles continued to fascinate local TV stations tonight.

WESH-Ch. 2 headlined its Baez story “Foreclosure Fallout,” a follow-up on the station’s Wednesday report about Baez facing foreclosure on his Kissimmee home.

But the main point of Bob Kealing’s reporting tonight was that Baez can’t withdraw as the attorney for Casey Anthony. She is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

“I would be shocked if Judge [Belvin] Perry let anybody withdraw now,” criminal defense attorney Jeff Deen said in offering analysis for WESH.

Kealing and Deen pointed to new law passed in reaction to the Anthony case. The law aims to prevent a private attorney from leaving a case when a client becomes indigent.

Deen explained: “If you start out with a private lawyer and you pay that lawyer, and then you go to the court and ask that the state pay your costs, if that lawyer now tries to withdraw, it’s not permitted by statute anymore that the person would get a state-appointed lawyer.”

The law went into effect July 1, meaning that Baez’s window for getting out had closed. Kealing said that Baez had not responded to requests for comment.

WFTV-Ch. 9’s Kathi Belich took stock of Baez’s Kissimmee home. “It’s a very nice house with a screened pool and a fireplace in a gated country club community,” she said.

She highlighted that his monthly mortgage payment is $4,500, but he hadn’t paid it since August 2009.

“But that didn’t stop him skipping his client Casey Anthony’s hearing on June 21 because of his vacation in Paris,” Belich added.
Baez told WFTV off camera that the house isn’t on the market and that it’s a personal matter, Belich said.

WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer agreed it’s a personal matter. “He just appears to be a person having financial difficulties,” Sheaffer said.

WFTV anchor Bob Opsahl told viewers about the fallout from another foreclosure story. ”Casey’s parents, George and Cindy Anthony, were able to save their home from foreclosure in near record time,” Opsahl said. “Since then, we’ve received  dozens of calls and e-mails claiming Bank of America gave the Anthonys preferential treatment.”

But a bank spokesman said the Anthonys’ loan modification was handled in a normal period of time, Opsahl added.

Coming up: The defense on Friday is expected to depose Jesse Grund, Casey Anthony’s former fiance, and meter reader Roy Kronk, who found the toddler’s remains in the woods near the Anthony home.

WKMG-Ch. 6 tonight focused on the Kronk deposition and previewed what might be coming. The station said that in 1997 Kronk told Kingsport, Tenn., police they could find stolen items in a wooded area. But police didn’t find them, WKMG’s Mike DeForest reported.

“According to sources, Casey Anthony’s defense team finds it odd that Kronk would call police twice to two different wooded areas,” DeForest said. “Sources say the defense may use the Tennessee police report to challenge Kronk’s credibility and raise reasonable doubt.”

Kronk’s attorney said there was no need for a response to the WKMG report and said Kronk had done nothing wrong, DeForest added.

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/24442387/detail.html
Attorney: Kronk Ready To Testify In Casey Case
Defense Points To Kronk As Possible Suspect

POSTED: 4:49 pm EDT July 29, 2010
UPDATED: 5:08 pm EDT July 29, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
A key deposition is scheduled for Friday in the case against Casey Anthony.

An attorney for former meter reader Roy Kronk said his client is ready to testify Friday under oath and take questions from Anthony's defense team.

After Kronk's first session, Anthony’s defense filed paperwork suggesting the man who found Caylee's Anthony's remains should have been investigated as a suspect.

An Orlando criminal defense attorney said Friday is the day Anthony’s defense team can solidify their theory that Kronk is someone they could point the finger at in Casey's trial.

“Either he's the guy, or he's not the guy,” criminal defense attorney Richard Hornsby said.
Hornsby said Anthony's defense team can gain valuable information against Roy Kronk, but they still have to commit fully to the theory that Kronk was behind Caylee Anthony's disappearance.

“The state has a solid theory it's Casey Anthony. The defense does not have a solid theory if they're just kind of pointing at Roy Kronk and saying he wasn't investigated enough,” Hornsby said. “You can't have it both ways.”

His attorney said Kronk is not commenting in advance of tomorrow's session. Previously, he's made it clear he had nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance.

This deposition comes in advance of both sides going back in front of Judge Belvin Perry to argue over whether the defense can introduce testimony of Kronk's alleged "prior bad acts."

Video at link

Does anyone know when the next televised court appearance will be? TIA

Scatty,these are the upcoming hearing dates.I hope they will be televised.   ::MonkeyCool::
08/30/2010           Status Hearing  (1:30 PM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
09/27/2010           Status Hearing  (1:30 PM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
10/29/2010           Status Hearing  (1:30 PM) (Judicial Officer Perry, Belvin, JR)
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234

LOL--Scumbags R Us and Then Some, Inc.

Just a few comments:

Usually, a real estate appraisel comes in on the low side anyway, and a piece of property is worth what you can get for it-the final selling price point amount isn't set in stone, but what the listing agent's talents are, their prospective clients' list and interested clients' ability & willingness to pay for any given property. So, basically, a property is worth what you can get for it.
 
If there is a divorce looming in the picture, that possibly could cause someone to cease paying house payments ... 

It's also possible that Baez really cannot manage money prudently. If that is the case, he should have hired someone to manage it for him a long time ago. 

It's all sloppy, isn't it?

Thanks Trimm!

As for disability;  I am fifty-five now.  I worked for the county.  For a planned surgery I had to use all of my vac. time, sick time, etc.  After a month or two, I qualified for short term disability.  That was aprox. one half of my salary.  My benefits remained intact.

After six months, ( unexpected complications )  I got full disability until I retire in ten years.  That sounds great and I am truly thankful however; it is three hundred less than short term and now I pay taxes, and for less benefits than before.  In short, I will be lucky to bring home $1,500. a month.  That's quite a loss from my $3,500 plus incredible benefits.  No one would choose this....unless they had back up income.

Terri

OMG! She's even had a law enacted because of her murderous ways and her bumbling lawyer.
Now he can't step down even if he wants to.
This is truly a circus.

Wow.

Very interesting.

Thanks so much for finding and posting this, Trimm!

 ::MonkeyGavel::

tee hee   ::MonkeyTongue::

So this is in response to Lyon leaving or they got wind that Baez or Cheney were thinking of leaving too? To get a law enacted this quickly they had to have known something was going on for quite a while!

With Baez's actions, I'm sure this is not going the be the first law enacted based off the Casey Anthony case. I can see one now for not reporting your child missing for 31 days. Oh I'm sure there is one somewhere.

Hey Boo. ::HelloKitty::  I am wondering all the same things.
I saw this posted over at IS  http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=370832&page=8
IFC Momo 2010 Stautory Changes
http://www.justiceadmin.org/court_app_counsel/contracts/IFC%20memo%202010%20statutory%20changes.pdf

http://www.wesh.com/news/24448346/detail.html
Kronk Expected To Testify At Deposition Today
Defense Points To Kronk As Possible Suspect In Casey Case

POSTED: 5:15 am EDT July 30, 2010
UPDATED: 5:29 am EDT July 30, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
 
Video at link
 
A key deposition is scheduled for Friday in the case against Casey Anthony.

An attorney for former meter reader Roy Kronk said his client is ready to testify Friday under oath and take questions from Anthony's defense team.

After Kronk's first session, Anthony’s defense filed paperwork suggesting the man who found Caylee's Anthony's remains should have been investigated as a suspect.

An Orlando criminal defense attorney said Friday is the day Anthony’s defense team can solidify their theory that Kronk is someone they could point the finger at in Casey's trial.
Either he's the guy, or he's not the guy,” criminal defense attorney Richard Hornsby said.

Hornsby said Anthony's defense team can gain valuable information against Roy Kronk, but they still have to commit fully to the theory that Kronk was behind Caylee Anthony's disappearance.

“The state has a solid theory it's Casey Anthony. The defense does not have a solid theory if they're just kind of pointing at Roy Kronk and saying he wasn't investigated enough,” Hornsby said. “You can't have it both ways.”

His attorney said Kronk is not commenting in advance of tomorrow's session. Previously, he's made it clear he had nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance.

This deposition comes in advance of both sides going back in front of Judge Belvin Perry to argue over whether the defense can introduce testimony of Kronk's alleged "prior bad acts."
 

http://mhutch.blogspot.com/2010/07/roy-kronk-deposed-by-casey-anthonys.html

Thursday, July 29, 2010
Roy Kronk Deposed By Casey Anthony's Defense Team Friday

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/24443621/detail.html
Anthony Defense To Question Roy Kronk
Anthony's Attorneys Suggest Kronk May Have Kidnapped, Killed Toddler
POSTED: Thursday, July 29, 2010
UPDATED: 7:25 am EDT July 30, 2010
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony’s attorneys on Friday will question Roy Kronk, the former meter reader who found Caylee Anthony's body.
Prior Incident Cited http://www.clickorlando.com/video/24444474/index.html
Local 6 has learned of another discovery that Kronk made years earlier in Tennessee that could impact the Anthony case.

Anthony’s defense team has suggested that Kronk may have kidnapped and killed Anthony's daughter, Caylee. Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in Caylee's death.

Local 6 has obtained a police report from Tennessee that sources said may be used by the Anthony’s defense team to attack Kronk’s credibility.

During Friday’s depositions, Casey Anthony’s attorneys will likely question the former meter reader about the rainy day in 2008 when he found Caylee’s body.

The defense is also likely to question him about the day four months earlier when he repeatedly called authorities to the same area to report a suspicious item he found there. A deputy showed up, but was unable to find anything unusual.

Now, Local 6 has learned that 11 years earlier Kronk called authorities to another wooded area in Tennessee, but that once again officers who responded to that scene were unable to find what Kronk had been describing.
According to a 1997 report from Kingsport, Tenn., Kronk told investigators they would find several stolen guns and other stolen items in a wooded field. But when officers searched the field, they were unable to find any of the items Kronk was talking about.

According to sources, Casey Anthony’s defense team found it odd that Kronk would call police twice to two different wooded areas where nothing was found.

Sources said the defense team may use the Tennessee police report to challenge Kronk’s credibility and raise reasonable doubt.

Anthony’s lawyers have already suggested that Kronk may have been responsible for the toddler’s disappearance, even though police and prosecutors have not turned up any evidence of that.

Local 6 called Kronk’s attorney for a response to allegations against him. He said there is no need for a response, calling this, “One of the many sideshows in this case.”

Kronk’s attorney also said his client has nothing to hide and points out that he is not the one on trial.

Anthony has pleaded not guilty. Her trial is scheduled to begin in May 2011.

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/july/129599/Casey-Anthony:-Defense-drills-man-who-found-Caylee%E2%80%99s-body
Casey Anthony: Defense drills man who found Caylee’s body
By Jacqueline Fell, Reporter
Last Updated: Friday, July 30, 2010 5:59 AM
 ORLANDO --

Casey Anthony’s lawyers said they are prepared to question the man who found the body of Casey’s daughter in the woods.

The defense team filed court papers, saying Roy Kronk should have been investigated more thoroughly.

“Mr. Baez was very polite to me all day,” Kronk told reporters in November 2009. “He was very nice to me. It was a very nice mood in there.”

Anthony’s attorneys said the former Orange County meter reader has a history of “inappropriate behavior with young girls, abusing, restraining and holding women against their will.”

Lawyers did not immediately reveal what they will ask Kronk, but they are expected to question him about accusations from his ex-wife, Jill Keerley, who claimed he was abusive.

“He probably was the one that murdered Caylee Anthony, or had something to do with it,” Keerley told the defense in 2009.

Attorneys claimed there is just as much circumstantial evidence against Kronk as there is against Casey Anthony.

Kronk’s attorney, David Evans, said he is anxious for his client to get it done.

Evans said Kronk is still living in Orange County, but he has not been working, and has stopped volunteering with dishonorably discharged veterans.

He also added that his client has been following the case against Casey Anthony closely.

Video Stories

    * Defense set to question Kronk again Watch Video http://www.cfnews13.com/video?clip=http://static.cfnews13.com/newsvideo/cfn/KronkRL2_072920101058.flv

Good Morning trim and Monks!!  uuummmm  very interesting....even the FL legislature sees how corrupt the  DUHfence team is!!

hi Terri...thanks for sharing your experience with us....I think the A's were being given so much.....both materially and financially they never thought it would stop...so why not collect disability too! (I knew several extremely well to do attorney's in Houston who's wives collect social security....they sure didn't NEED it. but they collected it....why...because they could!  IMO, this is the same mind set) The A's needed to be able to be available to fly to NY to be on national TV ya know.  I think they counted on selling more Caylee videos and pictures, they counted on the donations to keep rolling in, they counted on book and movie deals rolling in the front door....but after the STINK of finding out that ABC paid BOZO for pictures and videos to the tune of 200K, the gravy train dried up!!  Potential employers saw the videos of both the A's at the Morgan depos, they saw them continually changing their stories, ............who in their right mind would want to hire either of them after seeing them in action.  Who would want to work side by side with either of them?

I am still not convinced that georgieboy is NOT working someplace. I think he is working someplace..probably at night and not in the public...a night watchman, where he is there alone perhaps in a room watching video cameras....I can't see BoA negotiating a new loan on anticipated income...without some proof that that they is something in the works.  JMO

thanks trim....I believe this last part of that article as well.....

'After yesterday's revelation that Jose Baez home is in foreclosure, I doubt if he will be interested in anything that will bring this case to a fair and just conclusion anytime soon. For him, the big money is yet to be made off of Casey Anthony and I expect him to stick around until he collects every cent possible from Florida taxpayers.'

Me too Sunny.
I despise them all.

The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that this new look of sin-cin's is the prelude to her applying for SSD. She goes from her I AM ALL THAT appearance with her haircuts, makeup, youthful clothing and oodles of gaudy jewelry to her current dowdy appearance...long scraggly hair, no make up, very little jewelry and grandmotherly type clothing.....gone are the sleeveless dress with the cleavage showing....now it's polyester dresses with matching cardigan sweaters......oh yes..... do believe this is part of the plan to apply for SSD. Why work when you can screw over every system available!!

me too trim and it grows and grows.....how many cases does BOZO have other than this one?  I remember Hornsby laughing saying BOZO had raised his rates so much that people were coming to him (RH) for representation cause BOZO's fees were so out there!  I remember checking several months ago and his clients were mostly scum with scum charges...lowlife's!!

'morning monks!

Could the Anthony's "anticipated income" be a contract for the book Cindy & Conway will be writing soon?   ::MonkeyTongue::

http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Roy Kronk Call To Police In Tenn. could Impact Casey Case
07/29/10

hi numbers....IM it could be....

some pictures of BOZO's house and neighborhood.....

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/24439265/detail.html

http://humbleopinionforum.net/2010/07/27/can-the-anthonys-disability-check-pay-the-house-payment/
 Sorry if this has been posted ....I don't remember

Can the Anthony’s disability check pay the house payment?
Filed under Casey Anthony 92 comments

So lets see for well over a year and a half, more like 2 years, Cindy has been collecting disability due to stress-related medical problems and this is why she left her job, so she claims.

George on the other hand must be collecting disability due to the fact he can’t keep a job.  Why else could he get disability, oh wait, that suicide news breaker..I forgot.

As for how much they make in disability, I have no clue.  It has to be enough for tattoos, renovations, gas, gum, pizza….etc….

Both Cindy and George are right on with the lazy no work program. They have collected off the state for a few years now and, both seem to be pretty healthy to get out and get  job.  If you can go and fib on national tv, you sure can get your butt out there and make a living and stop looking for handouts.

Conway stated a while back:  George Anthony has an added difficulty because he is instantly recognized and rejected by most employers either because of who he is or because companies fear he may bring unwanted media attention. I am unsure what his problem was before all of this happened, was he instantly recognized and the media following him around?  This is a poor excuse from Conway.

Remember when DCF was called because stress-related medical issues Cindy was watching a friends child?  Another instance when Cindy should have been found unfit to watch a child.  If you are having such stress issues, you should in no way be able to watch a child.  AND might I add that parent of that child should be held accountable for even letting her child go over to a stress-related medical issue patient.  According to DCF’s Carrie Hoeppner  she said Cindy Anthony was very open with investigators and said she was “helping a friend who was between babysitters and that’s OK.”  [We know how open Cindy can be, and how truthful also]

We all know the Anthony’s are the worlds biggest scammers.  If there is a will there is a way. And they always seem to find that large lie to get them what they want.

Could there really be a book deal?  I hope not, that book won’t sell until it is .50 cents and on the bargain shelf.  But it will be a shock to the book company as to how much money they lost.

Let’s not forget that George still has a court date set for October 15, 2010 at 9 am for his credit card issues. 06/28/2010 Motion/Notice and Judgment to Dismiss-Appear 10/15/2010 @ 9 am.  [Thanks Smoke for bring this back to my memory]

This is for FIA CARD SERVICES N A, vs. ANTHONY, GEORGE A Case Type: CC – Other
Date Filed: 11/28/2007 Location: Div 72
Uniform Case Number: 482007CC019403A001OX
Party Information
Defendant:  ANTHONY, GEORGE A
Plaintiff:  FIA CARD SERVICES N A
Also known as MBNA AMERICA BANK N A

Good morning, Monkeys!   ::MonkeyBike::
I see that there is a notice of supplementary discovery and Kathi B. has requested SOMETHING.  Hmmmm....Do I see a doc dump in our future?  I wonder what it could be?
(I'm praying for Dominic Casey's depo, the phone calls to be released, and gee, wouldn't it be cool if we finally got to see Cindy's credit card statements?)

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
07/29/2010     Notice of Provision of Supplemental Discovery

07/30/2010     Transaction Assessment      17.99
07/30/2010     Counter Payment  Receipt # CR-2010-47903  KATHLEEN J. BELICH  (17.99)
             

I don't do this very often because WS is so chitty towards SM...but this is most interesting

it seem that BOZO has been sued at least twice for not paying 1. a doctor in 2008....doctor won $10,475.56 and in 2009 a court reporting service for $4,404.47, court reporting service won.  He seems to feel he is above paying his bills.....I swear some how, some way he must be related to the A's!!

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110341&page=10  so here's the link....go to post #238, hat tip to nums24

http://www.edwilleymd.com/

Edward N. Willey MD is a Pathologist in private practice of forensic medical and pathologic evaluation in St. Petersburg, FL. He is an Honorary Staff member of the Department of Pathology at Palms of Pasadena Hospital.

    * University of Michigan College of Literature, Science and Arts - Phi Beta Kappa, Phi Kappa Phi, Crapo C. Smith Scholar, James B. Angell Scholar, B.A. with High Distinction
    * University of Michigan Medical School - M.D., Student Research Fellow in Physiology
    * Duke University Medical Center - Department of Pathology - Intern and Teaching Assistant
    * University of Michigan - Department of Pathology - Resident and Research Associate
    * Kellogg Foundation - Postgraduate Medicine Lecturer
    * National Institutes of Health - Trainee
    * Rackham Fund and American Cancer Society - Grants Recipient
    * Continuing Medical Education Meetings - too numerous to mention

PERSONNEL:
Pathologist experienced at forensic medical case evaluation provides medical investigation of civil and criminal cases with paramedical administrative, nursing, librarian, photographic, artistic and clerical support functions.

SCOPE OF ACTIVITIES:
Analysis of cause of injury or death, without prejudgment of issues, including homicide, accident, suicide, sexual crimes, child abuse, chemical impairment or dependency, occupational, transportation, chemical, thermal and physical injuries, and medical misadventures.
   
Investigation identifies issues with associated consultation, computerized on-line search and collection of textual and periodical literature, identification of experts, compilation of information with summary of medical records, formulation of opinions and preparation of reports and affidavits as required.

APPEARANCES:
Testimony is available, without prejudgment of issues, by deposition or at hearing, arbitration or trial. Unless otherwise agreed, availability is limited to Florida with preference for one day travel by automobile in vicinity of Tampa Bay or by same day commercial round trip flights from Tampa International Airport.

Morning Monka!  GO KATHI!!!!!

The ONLY thing I see that doing is to show that he is someone who is conscientious about trying to help solve crimes. They are idiots that has nothing to do with this case.

Wow, thank you Sunny.  Is he utilizing these people for the cases he is working on and not paying them?  He is truly an idiot.  He should hang his head in shame, not that we ever could but how will anyone take this guy seriously knowing this?  He is immoral, unethical and disgusting.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

ITA they are really stretching.  It blows my mind that in the beginning this was all about the nanny who took Caylee and then is was Kronk and Jesse and now prolly George.  They waste more time coming up with nothing.

Thank-you, I sure could live there with no complaints  ::MonkeyEek::

The DUHfence fail to remember....gee perhaps BOZO is losing his memory....that nothing was found because the deputy was skeered by a snake (so would I have been, but I am not a deputy) and that deputy was IIRC relieved of his duties. 

This is really getting sad..this grasping at straws.....all this does is make the DUHfence look even more and more incompetent...and perhaps that is what is happening. Is (BOZO) gonna stretch this incompetence out as long as possible hoping for an appeal based on having an idiot for a lawyer??? 

I want Kc to have the best defense possible....I do not want her getting a retrial or a mistrial. I want her to go directly to prison and not pass go!

http://www.wftv.com/video/24451409/index.html

Baez interview..idiot

http://www.wftv.com/video/24451512/index.html

Mason....double idiot!!  trying to establish reasonable doubt!!

http://www.wftv.com/video/24451551/index.html

Kronk's attorney....

OMGWTF !!!!!! This proves it. He is an idiot to the nth degree. With all that's going on.....nothing short of disbarment will ever humble this guy.

(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz170/Mom_Sho/Smileys/wavehi.gif)

Gee..."We're hoping Mr. Kronk will tell the truth"...How about your client telling the truth?? RRGH!

For real!  ::MonkeyEek::

If the client told the truth I would fall off my chair.   ::MonkeyTongue::

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/073010-casey-depositions
Casey Anthony case – Depositions today from the man who found Caylee’s body, plus her former fiance

Updated: Friday, 30 Jul 2010, 12:16 PM EDT
Published : Friday, 30 Jul 2010, 10:46 AM EDT
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL, FOX 35) - Right now Roy Kronk is being deposed by Casey Anthony's defense team. He's the former Orange County meter reader who found Caylee Anthony's remains in the woods off of Suburban Drive on December 11, 2008. After Caylee's remains were found, Kronk told investigators that he had called to report what he thought could have been bag with a body in it in that same area, back in August of 2008. According to records, Kronk had made three calls and was even met by a deputy who checked it out.

Since discovering Caylee's remains, Kronk's past has been closely scrutinized by Casey Anthony's defense team. In video interviews submitted filed in court records, an ex wife of Kronk's claims he had bound her up with duct tape. Duct tape was found around Caylee's skull. And, Kronk's son told Casey's defense team that Kronk told him to watch the news. In a conversation before Thanksgiving of 2008 Kronk's son claims Kronk told him he knew where missing 2 year old Caylee's body was and that he'd be on the news when he found her.

FOX 35 will be there when depositions wrap up. We'll let you know what each party says about today's questioning.

Watch the complete report tonight on Fox 35 News at 5 pm

:smt045  :smt045

I know!!  can you believe the arrogance!!  and he was really missing Kathi!!  When he said he gets to pick the charity I nearly fell off my chair!!

Hi Gizzie!  I thought the EXACT same thing...........how about your client telling the truth!!

I know.    And what's with he and Mason always talking about these news guys bosses, it's so juvenile

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/07/casey-anthony-did-jose-baez-joke-about-cost-of-chopper-fuel.html
Casey Anthony: Did Jose Baez joke about cost of chopper fuel?
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Jose Baez, WESH, WFTV — posted by halboedeker on July, 30 2010 12:42 PM
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Former meter reader Roy Kronk is being deposed today in the Casey Anthony case.

But Anthony attorney Jose Baez took time to weigh in on coverage that his Kissimmee home is in foreclosure. WESH-Ch. 2’s Bob Kealing said Baez “joked” about the reporting, but Baez sure didn’t seem like he was joking.

“The next time you want to send helicopters over my house, let me know,” Baez told reporters. “You know how much helicopter fuel costs these days? I would have gladly have taken photos of my house, inside and out, if you would have donated that money to charity.”

Baez looked utterly serious. Kealing reported that Kronk and his attorney would talk to the press after today’s deposition.

At noon, stations previewed the deposition. Baez said the defense would talk to Kronk about everything. “There are a lot of statements we’re concerned about,” Baez told reporters. “We’re hoping Mr. Kronk will tell the truth.”

To that, WFTV-Ch. 9’s Kathi Belich added, “There’s no indication that Kronk has ever lied.”

Kronk found the remains of Caylee Anthony. Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter.

Defense attorney Cheney Mason told reporters the Anthony team is focusing on “establishing reasonable doubt in various aspects of the case.”

WFTV’s Belich noted that this was the second time the defense had deposed Kronk. “They smeared him after his first deposition, releasing videotaped statements from disgruntled family members,” Belich said. Belich noted that an ex-wife accused Kronk of binding her with duct tape and that duct tape was found on the remains of Caylee Anthony.

The attorney for Kronk today dismissed the ex-wife’s allegations as ridiculous.

What does that have to do with this case?

http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.com/2010/07/30/casey-anthonys-defense-to-question-roy-kronk/

Casey Anthony’s defense to question Roy Kronk
July 30, 2010

“The next time you want to send helicopters over my house, let me know,” Baez told reporters. “You know how much helicopter fuel costs these days? I would have gladly have taken photos of my house, inside and out, if you would have donated that money to charity.”   ::MonkeyEek::  This man is in serious need of an evaluation by a very good mental health doctor.

I really hope someone puts an end to all this bs.
She is indefensible. End of story.

That and a swift kick in the a**.

I'll volunteer my foot!  ::MonkeyDevil::
Hey, I'll bet he could make some serious cash by charging people to kick his behind.
This reminds me of Paul Schaeffer and  "This is Spinal Tap"...

Artie Fufkin: [after nobody turns up, at an album-signing promotion] You know what I want you to do? Will you do something for me?
David St. Hubbins: What?
Artie Fufkin: Do me a favor. Just kick my ass, okay? Kick this ass for a man, that's all. Kick my ass. Enjoy. Come on. I'm not asking, I'm telling with this. Kick my ass.

Mason said this was all about providing reasonable doubt. Didn't Hornsby say they need to commit to a theory?  Maybe Hornsby's wrong? If it's all about reasonable doubt, does that mean they can float as many smear campaigns against innocent parties as they wish, just to taint the jury?

That's what it looks like to me.  Did they depose Jesse Grund and his dad today, too?

That is all the defense has is too create reasonable doubt, sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn't.

Maybe the key word is reasonable!   Wish it was over, they really give me heartburn sometimes  ::MonkeyMad::

Will a nice Monkey please
post pics of  bozos house??  My computer crashed and I'm on my cell it does not have flash to upload pics
I can only view here
tia
with loads of sugar!!!!

I am sorry, but imo it is not important to know what J.Baez house looks like. It isn't important. :roll:

I wish this was all over with also, so Caylee can finally get her justice.

Me, too, NoRose.  I also hope all those the defense and the A's have tried to blame and treated like dirt get their justice as well.  I find their behavior indefensible.

sorry klaasend

your right  about Baez  house!!now I feel  like a fool lol
no pun my bad

Kronk and his lawyer intervewed after the depo.

http://www.wftv.com/video/24454244/index.html

I thought both Kronk and his lawyer were a class act. 

Especially after listening to Bozo and Mason's sad attempts at articulation.

ITA, they responded like true professionals. They didn't take the opportunity to take a pot shot at the Baez team or even Casey. Nice to see for once. 

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/july/130141/Caseys-lawyers-depose-Kronk-again
Casey's lawyers depose Kronk again
By Jacqueline Fell, Reporter
Last Updated: Friday, July 30, 2010 3:44 PM
ORLANDO --

The man who found Caylee Anthony's remains says despite all he's been through, he'd do it all over again if he had to.

But Roy Kronk said not all things are looking good for the former Orange County meter reader.

He said he just wants his life back.

On Friday, after Round 2 of questioning by Casey Anthony's defense, Kronk maintains he was using the restroom when he found Caylee's remains.
 
For the first time, he's responding to allegations he's abused his wife, and told family members before he discovered the remains, he was going to be on TV.

"Of anybody involved in this mess, he's going to be one guy who's going to come out with his reputation intact and his dignity intact," David Evans, Kronk’s attorney.

However, Kronk said his name and reputation have been pulled through the mud.

"It’s been very difficult for me,” Kronk said. “That's all I'll say. There's been some horrible things said about me. Said I was a child predator, child molester all this other stuff and some people believe it."

This all surfaced after Kronk’s ex-wives came out and said he was abusive, threatened to kill them, restrained them with duct tape, and said he shouldn't be around young girls.
He’s got problems with past spouses and family members,” Evans said. “There's no secret about that. I think probably some of these people are looking for 15 minutes of fame or doing it out of malice with intent to be harmful to Roy."

The release of the interviews was a move the defense took to show Kronk should have been investigated for Caylee's murder, and that there's just as much circumstantial evidence pointing to Kronk as there is Anthony.

"Anything that we're trying to do here would be focusing on establishing reasonable doubt on various aspects of the case," said Cheney Mason, one of Anthony’s lawyers.

The defense finished questioning Kronk around lunchtime.

 Kronk said he is still struggling to find work

Both sides will meet again. They'll have to go in front of Judge Perry to see if the defense can bring up Kronk's alleged past.

It'll be a critical hearing for the defense as they try to point the finger at someone else other than Casey.

thanks Scatty... ::MonkeyCheer4::

I agree Monka..they both handled themselves very well.

So was Jesse Grund also deposed today?  I havent seen anything about it??

And when you are dragged through the mud like that and you haven't done anything wrong, how does one get their reputation back?  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I am not sure....but I hope someone saw that and offers him a job!!  Unlike the A[s he is not unemployed because he wanted to be.

It seems like any GOOD people that are touched by the A's are cursed....look at the people who's lives have been adversely affected because.....they have the kiss of death surrounding the,....when people see them thy should turn around and run as fast as they can

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/07/casey-anthony-roy-kronk-says-doing-the-right-thing-is-its-own-reward-is-it.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher
Casey Anthony: Roy Kronk says, ‘Doing the right thing is its own reward’ — is it?
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Jose Baez, WESH, WFTV, WOFL — posted by halboedeker on July, 30 2010 5:35 PM
How did it go for Roy Kronk today?

Casey Anthony’s defense team was very polite during a two and a half deposition, Kronk told WESH-Ch. 2’s Bob Kealing. Kronk is the former meter reader who found Caylee Anthony’s remains.

Kronk said he would do it all over again. ”Doing the right thing is its own reward,” Kronk told reporters.

Kealing noted that Anthony’s defense team “slipped away without answering more questions about how today’s deposition went.” Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.  WOFL-Ch. 35’s Holly Bristow said the defense had not returned her calls for comment on the deposition.

Before the deposition, Anthony defense attorney Cheney Mason said the team was “focusing on establishing reasonable doubt for various aspects of the case.”

WFTV-Ch. 9 anchor Bob Opsahl highlighted that Kronk is a key prosecution witness and the defense wants to discredit him.

Even as he talked about doing the right thing, Kronk acknowledged that he has faced terrible pressure and that “some horrible things” have been said about him on blogs. “It’s just been very difficult for me. It’s hard for me to go anywhere without being recognized,” Kronk said.

Kronk told Bristow he needed to relieve himself that day he stumbled across Caylee’s remains. Kronk said, “The thing about that [meter reader] job is that you can’t go up and knock on a citizen’s door and go, ‘Hi, I’m with Orange County. Can I borrow your bathroom?”

David Evans, Kronk’s attorney, flatly denied an allegation by Kronk’s ex-wife that he restrained her with duct tape.

WFTV’s Kathi Belich said, “The defense wants people to believe Kronk, who had no connection to Caylee when she was alive, murdered her, then — instead of keeping quiet to stay in the clear — brought attention to himself by calling law enforcement with the claim that he just found her.”
Belich asked Kronk and his attorney, David Evans, if that theory made sense.

“Of course it doesn’t make any sense,” Evans said. “That’ll be their burden … if they ever get an opportunity to try to convince a jury of this, have at it.”

Evans predicted his client will come through the ordeal ordeal with his reputation and dignity.

WFTV reported the defense canceled today’s deposition with former Anthony fiance Jesse Grund and rescheduled it to Aug. 11.

WESH and WOFL also turned to Jose Baez’s thoughts about the coverage that his home is in foreclosure. “I’ll tell you the rest of my problems, if you’re all interested,” he said. Evidently it was a joke, although he said it wearily.

http://mhutch.blogspot.com/2010/07/casey-anthony-case-tests-criminal.html
Friday, July 30, 2010
Casey Anthony Case Tests Criminal Justice System

If This Trial takes any longer it is gonna test the creation of the Earth.
Ridiculous amount of time spent on this sociopath woman.
jmho

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/24457651/detail.html
Anthony Defense Questions Meter Reader
Man Who Found Caylee's Remains Questioned For Second Time

POSTED: Friday, July 30, 2010
UPDATED: 7:04 pm EDT July 30, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's defense team questioned former meter reader Roy Kronk for the second time for several hours on Friday.
VIDEO: Kronk Discusses Deposition http://www.clickorlando.com/video/24458298/index.html
Kronk discovered Caylee Anthony's remains in a wooded area in East Orange County in December 2008.

"There's been some horrible things said about me on blogs. Said I was a child predator, a child molester, all this other stuff. Some people believe it. I have no criminal background . I've done no harm to no one," Kronk said.

Kronk said ever since Anthony's defense team obtained tapes of his ex-wives attacking his character, he has become a target of suspicion.

"He probably was the one who may have murdered Caylee Anthony or had something to do with it," Kronk's ex-wife said in a previously released recording.

During Friday's depositions, Anthony's lawyers grilled Kronk about the day he found the toddler's body, as well as four months earlier when Kronk called 911 to report a suspicious item he found in the woods. A deputy, who was later fired for lying, claimed he searched the woods and found nothing.

"There's a lot of statements we're concerned about and we're hoping Mr. Kronk will tell the truth," defense attorney Jose Baez said.
He said he knew where the body was and he was going to get it when the water went down," Kronk's ex-wife Crystal Sparks said.

The defense has suggested that Kronk may have played a role in Caylee's disappearance, a theory Kronk's lawyer said has no basis in fact.

Kronk said he has no regrets about finding Caylee and he would do it all over again.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in Caylee's death. Caylee was 2 years old when she was reported missing in July 2008.

Baez on issues with Jane Velez Mitchell
Casey Anthony: Issues 7/30/10 Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/a/u/0/F9camAjakGw

Thanks from me too ... she was so precious ... and those magnificent eyes!

 ::MonkeyCool::

Seems like a possible divorce situation as opposed to careless asset management IMO ....

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1007/30/ijvm.01.html
Issues With Jane Velez Mitchell
07/30/10
Kaine Horman Speaks Out About Missing Son; Casey Anthony Gets a Psychologist
Aired July 30, 2010 - 19:00:00   ET

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/a/u/0/P1gCR3qjngM

Thanks Trimm!

Ha Ha--he is such a jackass! LOL

I sooo agree. ::MonkeyHaHa::

Actually, saying the meter reader did it might have been really good reasonable doubt, IF they would have went with that story in the beginning, not the crazy one about the invisible nanny. Sheesh!

That pic of Baez' house?  I think that's actually a picture of Dolce's house.  Am I allowed to say that?  LOL

::MonkeyHaHa:: 

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/july/130141/Caseys-lawyers-depose-Kronk-again
Casey's lawyers depose Kronk again
By Jacqueline Fell, Reporter
Last Updated: Friday, July 30, 2010 10:36 PM
ORLANDO --

The man who found Caylee Anthony's remains says despite all he's been through, he'd do it all over again if he had to.

But Roy Kronk said not all things are looking good for the former Orange County meter reader.

He said he just wants his life back.

On Friday, after the second round of questioning by Casey Anthony's defense, Kronk maintains he was using the restroom when he found Caylee's remains.
 
For the first time, Kronk's responding to allegations he's abused his wife, and told family members before he discovered the remains, he was going to be on TV.

"Of anybody involved in this mess, he's going to be one guy who's going to come out with his reputation intact and his dignity intact," said David Evans, Kronk’s attorney.

However, Kronk said his name and reputation have been pulled through the mud.

"It’s been very difficult for me,” Kronk said. “That's all I'll say. There's been some horrible things said about me. Said I was a child predator, child molester, all this other stuff and some people believe it."

This all surfaced after Kronk’s ex-wives came out and said he was abusive, threatened to kill them, restrained them with duct tape, and said he shouldn't be around young girls.

"He’s got problems with past spouses and family members,” Evans said. “There's no secret about that. I think probably some of these people are looking for 15 minutes of fame or doing it out of malice with intent to be harmful to Roy."
The release of the interviews was a move the defense took to show Kronk should have been investigated for Caylee's murder, and that there's just as much circumstantial evidence pointing to Kronk as there is Anthony.

"Anything that we're trying to do here would be focusing on establishing reasonable doubt on various aspects of the case," said Cheney Mason, one of Anthony’s lawyers.

The defense finished questioning Kronk around lunchtime.

Kronk said he is still struggling to find work

Both sides will meet again. They'll have to go in front of Judge Belvin Perry to see if the defense can bring up Kronk's alleged past.

It'll be a critical hearing for the defense as they try to point the finger at someone else other than Anthony.

Video Stories

    * Kronk said he wants his life back http://www.cfnews13.com/video?clip=http://static.cfnews13.com/newsvideo/cfn/0730KronkDepo_073020100547.flv

Muzikman has a post that lists some of the things we may get in discovery.
(thanks Muzikman)
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5468865&postcount=68

Good Morning Monks!  thanks trim...it is too early and I have not had enough coffee to listen to either of these nut cases!!  JVM drives me crazy and BOZO...well we know he is just an IDIOT!!  Please some brave monks listen to this and tell us/me what is said ::MonkeyKiss::

hi Ono..not saying it couldn't be but what makes you think divorce?  IIRC he and his wife just took a trip to Paris in June.

thanks trim....after another pot of coffee I might be able to read this ::MonkeyTongue::

Ho Love2, he sure is.....he and Mason make a pair don't they!!  How embarrassing for the legal  profession!!

 ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::  Good Morning BB....that's too funny!  LOL.

thanks trim and Mm.....he is so good about going to the court house and getting the discovery.....I sure hope we get to see all of this......and soon!!

Thank-you that is one dedicated poster Muzikman, and is very smart.

that is a beautiful home that Baez has!


I would love it if Lee and his girlfriend broke up and she went to the press with what she knows...She has been so quiet through all of this...would love to hear what she knows and thinks!  I was just thinking about that last night for some reason...

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Sunny!  I don't have a clue---just my thoughts after viewing those pictures.  I am prolly totally incorrect.

It was noticed during court appearances that he no longer wears a wedding ring.

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/07/roy-kronk.html
Saturday, July 31, 2010
Jose Baez and Roy Kronk

http://www.bloggernews.net/125001
Caylee Anthony Update - Defense Depose Kronk
Posted on July 31st, 2010

I understand, sometimes there's no reason....it just it!  And you might be correct too!!

thanks...I love the passion in the writing and the opinions!

neither does my best friend's husband...he gained some weight and the ring  was tight and uncomfortable...and they are not getting a divorce....but Ono could be right with her feeling....

Sorry if this is a repeat....I just stumbled upon it tonight. Guess Bozo is stuck with Casey whether he wants to be or not.....BooHoo ::MonkeyJnBox::

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. --

Attorney: New Law Prevents Baez From Stepping Down

Attorney Jose Baez insists the foreclosure on his Kissimmee home will not affect his defense of Casey Anthony.

Baez said he has no desire to leave the capital case despite financial trouble.

Legal experts said they doubt Baez would even be allowed to withdraw from the case.

An amendment went into effect this month in Florida that bans judges from appointing attorneys where an indigent client has already retained and paid a lawyer. Experts said the idea is to prevent a private attorney from pulling out once a client’s money runs out.

Criminal defense attorney Jeff Deen said Baez may have a tough time juggling this high-profile case along with his personal money challenges. Deen said Baez would not be allowed to withdraw as Anthony’s lead attorney.

“He's in now. I would be shocked if Judge Perry let anyone withdraw now,” said Deen.

Deen said the new law, enacted this year by the Florida legislature, was enacted in response to the Anthony case.

Images: Many Looks Of Casey Anthony
Special Section

“If you start out with a private lawyer and ask the state to pay your costs, and if that lawyer tries to withdraw, it's not permitted by statute anymore that the person would get a state appointed lawyer,” said Deen.

Under the old law, privately retained attorneys who had already been paid could step down, leaving the state of Florida to pick up the cost of paying a new lawyer.

Baez did not return a request for comment Thursday afternoon.

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/24442681/detail.html

no one responds to this? is that why it's "scared" monkeys?  I used to like reading here, but this is totally off the wall and uncalled for.  Idiotic and monstrous come to mind.  Bless you Loca.

KATSCLOWN -  YOU ARE RUDE AND YOUR POST IS OUT OF ORDER.  AS A MODERATOR, I DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO BAN YOU, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW I BELIEVE THERE WILL BE A BANNING IN YOUR VERY NEAR FUTURE, WHEN KLAAS GETS THE TIME. 

I am not scared to post my thoughts.....I am kind of good at it.....We all have the utmost respect for klaas.....If she says it doesn't belong here then it doesn't belong here. She is the boss lady. I could care less what Bozo's house looks like.   

::MonkeyCheer4::

What does his wife do?  I'm trying to figure out how he affords a house like that.  When looking at all the cases before casey, they were measly ol' drug cases, traffic violations, all small one's, nothing I would imagine he would make much and there aren't even that many.  Even the money he recieved before Crazy was found indignant, wasn't enough to support him to afford that house for very long.  Does he have something shady on the side?  Just curious?

And calling our dear Klaasend an idiot is probably goona make sure you don't have to read here anymore. Byeeeeeeeeeeeee ::MonkeyCool::



 :smt045 :smt045 :smt045 :smt045

Yep, ITA Darla

why defend someone screaming when it's uncalled for???? ya'll allowed to think or just worship the goddess? banning me would be what i would expect, actually.  poor loca...i felt bad for her, but i guess i'm the only one.  bozo and casey are the reason for this group.  given that, now what?

THIS POST IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE, KATSCLOWN.  AND YEP, YOU WILL MOST LIKELY BE BANNED.  YOU MAY NOT LIKE NOR AGREE WITH KLAASEND, BUT SHE USED HER ADMIN'S DISCRETION.  YOU CAN EITHER RESPECT THAT OR YOU CAN STOP POSTING/READING HERE.  YOUR COMMENTS ARE RUDE, YOUR ACCUSATIONS OF "WORSHIP THE GODDESS" IS LUDICROUS.  I HAVE A STRONG FEELING YOU WON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACT OUT IN THIS WAY FOR MUCH LONGER...

 ::MonkeyNoNo::  And here I go asking another "Baez" question.  Sorry Klaas.  It appears there are some people here who have no idea or have not seen how hard you work at trying to keep people on track and stopping arguments and you knack for finding info for us, even your graphic abilities are awsome, the list goes on and has for many years.  I personally don't know how you have done as long as you have!  But I certainly would never want ANYBODY else but you and our wonderful mods. running this board.  You've always been fair, stood your ground, taken up for us when needed and even scolded us  when necessary.  Like taking care of hundreds of kids at time!  ::MonkeyWink::
OH THE PATIENCE!

However, I think of my question as one of questioning his morals and ethics, or there lack of, in the case, (Actually disgusting) so wondering if it's the same in his personal life.  The house makes me wonder.   So how does he affor a house like that with few minor cases?

sorry darla, she may be "dear' but I feel bad for loca....a thousand o/t posts and pics in here and she's called out that way?  ya'll carry on.  like i said, it was nice in here, and i was shocked.  guess you're used to it.
'
IT'S CALLED ADMIN'S DISCRETION KATSCLOWN.  AND WE DON'T NEED YOU TO TELL US TO 'CARRY ON', NOR DO WE NEED YOUR ATTEMPT AT ARMCHAIR MODERATING.  BUT IT REALLY WON'T MATTER, SINCE I'VE GOT THE FEELING YOU WILL BE BANNED.   ::MonkeyGavel::

Katsclown,  she was not screaming at anybody.  Just pointing something out as a fact.  Her and the Mods. type in red when they want to get people's attention.  You are allowed to speak wathever you want,  but the rule is, to keep some semblance and peace here, is to keep it on topic.  This is extremely important when things are happening with the case and there are alot of people trying to catch up.  People want to see CASE facts only.

There is Musings site to discuss anything off topic.  Yes, I did ask a question about his house, but I was relating it to his scruples in his proffession and if he conducts it the same in his personal life.  Maybe I should't be discussing BAEZ here, as he's trying to get Caylee's murderer off.  And he's doing it so pathetically, unproffessionally and even immaturely.

Klaas would only "YELL" if there was a major disagreement and people were getting of topic, by attacking each other.   I've been here for 5 years and have never seen Klaas out of line.  We don't look at her like a "Goddess", but somebody who we respect for all her hard work.

 ::MonkeyEek::

I don't worship anyone but our Heavenly Father, but Klaas has a thankless job keeping the threads on topic and Bozo and Casey are NOT the reason for this group, Caylee is. I don't come here to look at Bozo's house or the Anthony's house are some other stupid crap, I come here to get news on Justice for Caylee. I am glad Klaas puts bounderies on the forum or you would never get thru it. Huge photos bog the threads down. I just don't think your post calling our admin. Idiotic and monstrous was fair.

it looked for all the world like yelling to me.....i know anyone of you would have been happy to post the pic of the house and no harm done, so why ??? i guess there is no rhyme or reason but i felt bad for loca.  anyone else? probably not.  i'll be moving on.  have fun.

BOLDED BY ME

I DON'T HAVE THE SIGHT, BUT I SEE KATSCLOWN BEING BANNED IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.   ::MonkeyDevil::

Di...I agree with what you are saying....Bozo was living well beyond his means. But I guess if you are the first Hispanic to have such a high profile case, you have an image to keep up.

Katsclown, I am sure someone would have posted all 10 or 12 of them, then they would have been quoted over and over and over, til you would be sick of them. I think that is all Klaas intended to say. We just moved to a new server, we surely don't need to bog this one down with a hundred pics of his house.

THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO BE THE VOICE OF REASON, DARLA.  BUT KATSCLOWN WENT BEYOND ASKING REASONABLE QUESTIONS.  SHE COULD HAVE ASKED OR EVEN EMAILED KLAASEND FOR AN EXPLANATION, BUT WHAT KATSCLOWN DID WAS SHOW HER AZZ, AND MUDDY UP THIS MURDERED CHILD'S THREAD.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::rhino:: ::rhino:: ::rhino::

I'm seeing a lot of RED POSTS here tonight.....Lawdy!! Did I do something wrong?

Let's all try and behave in here. Klaas doesn't need drama tonight!

Peace!

Justice for Caylee!!

Bolded by Me

Yes, I'm hoping and praying there will be justice for Caylee.   ::MonkeyAngel::

O/T and this is my last words on it. Klaas and all the Mods do an excellent job of keeping this forum up and running and I am tired of lurkers who contribute nothing to the threads coming in and down grading the Monkeys and Admins. I scroll past the post on Bozo's media tours. I am sick of him, Conway and the whole Ant crowd.Can't stand to hear any of their voices. And I HATE endless quotes on photos page after page. If you have seen it once, why the need to see it 10,000 times.
 Off my rant, knew I shouldn't have logged in. I am proud to be a member here and try to respect the rules.

 Thank you darla for your kind words. 

You are so very welcome Muffy. I should have just signed out and kept my big mouth shut. But just could not ignore it. God Bless Sweet Caylee.

http://mhutch.blogspot.com/2010/08/blaming-someone-else-will-not-help.html
Sunday, August 01, 2010
Blaming Someone Else Will Not Help Casey Anthony

(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/caylee/n508228238_106098_4391.jpg) ::MonkeyAngel::

Amen! ::MonkeyAngel::

katsclown.....as you have already been told....you are rude, your posts were unnecessary and disruptive...I just wanted to add that if you or anyone has a problem with any post you are welcome to address it in the proper way...YOU DID NOT!!!  We don't make the rules...we just TRY to abide by them. We are not aware of what goes on behind the scenes and I have discovered over the years, there is a whole LOT, that we never know about.

I apologize to everyone especially Klaas, the Mods, and  loca for bringing the link to the pictures of BOZO's house to SM..it was a link from WFTV, I think...I had no idea it would cause a problem. Bye bye katsclown......


 Good Morning Monks...it's a beautiful day in rural MO!!

thanks trim......

I agree with the the article, especially this statement:

Right now, I think Casey Anthony is Jose Baez meal ticket for at least the next six months to a year and he will keep use her to keep himself afloat as long as possible, but when all the dust settles - Casey Anthony will be spending the rest of her life in prison.

however I think Bozo thinks Kc is his meal ticket for life....boy is he in for an awakening!!

Good Morning Sunny!   ::MonkeyAngel::

Baez questions aren't the problem.  What his house looks like has nothing to do with Caylee Anthony.  Baez is a jerk, we all know that. 

hi trim...I am still trying to find out if Jesse's depo took place....and can't find anything....have you seen that it was rescheduled?? or canceled??

Haven't seen anything.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
I'll look around .

Sunny,
Rescheduled for August 11th.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/07/casey-anthony-roy-kronk-says-doing-the-right-thing-is-its-own-reward-is-it.html

Geez I think I missed the party here last night.

Muffy and others great job in defending Klaas and SM.

Oh by the way katsclown "KLAAS IS A GODDESS"   is that big and red enough for you.

Got to agree with SAN - Klaas is a GODDESS - she does the work here fairly and without thanks!  I for one am glad she and the rest of the team are here!

Morning, Monks!  Here's a great quote from Baez on the JVM show...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1007/30/ijvm.01.html
And there`s one thing that everyone must understand, and that is the precedence in both the United States Supreme Court and in Florida case law is very -- does not -- is very shy of trying to curtail a defense because everyone in this country deserves a solid defense. And it`s -- and it`s normally not impeded upon by the court and of course unless it goes down in a way that`s irrelevant.

What?  Is it just me, or is this totally incoherent?  I think this counts as inadequate counsel.

aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh thanks trim...so the DUHfence canceled it..interesting....I wonder if they thought RK's depos was going to take longer than it did?  So why couldn't one of the BOZO's do RK's and the other do Jesse's.............oooppppsss slapping my forehead,.....cause BOZO #2 doesn't know the case enough to conduct a deposition!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyConfused::    He probably doesn't even know what he's trying to say.     ::MonkeyHaHa::

Good morning Monks!    ::MonkeyJnBox::

LOL..he is an idiot and certainly not someone who can think on his feet....he has proved that time and time again!!  LOL

Morning Sassy! 

this thread is rockin  ::MonkeyGavel::

i missed a good forum brawl.  ::MonkeyDevil::

I'm so happy I chose not to watch JVM when Jose was talking.....just his voice sets my BP into the danger zone! The man is inept, plain and simple!

I know 5 year olds who speak better than numbnuts Baez!

He had to know JVM would ask about the phone call from jail and the "recording", so he had plenty of time to "practice" answering the question so that it at least made sense..... geeeeesh  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Between listening to Baez and Mason, the jurors heads are going to implode!

Seriously, Casey will be punished because of the torture they must endure, listening to both of them on a daily basis at trial. I think I would take water-boarding over listening to either of them talk.... I can't take 5 minutes.....can you imagine several hours a day for 2-3 months???!!!! ::MonkeyNoNo:: Nope, bring in the water buckets for me!!

I agree Sunny.  Then the article will read;

Right now, I think Casey Anthony is Jose Baez meal ticket for at least the next six months to a year and he will keep use her to keep himself afloat as long as possible, but when all the dust settles - Casey Anthony will be spending the rest of her life in prison and Jose Bia$$ will be yesterday's news with an empty bank account.

What should we expect from this depo?
Is this part of a sympathy campaign for the defense?

::MonkeyEek:: I'd say totally incoherent,,,,,,,,,I find myself scratching my head so many times asking myself "Is this guy for real?"

Hi Mission....I think his bank account might be close to empty now...oh wait...no, it's not...he hasn't paid his 5,000 a month mortgage since August 2009..although his trip to Paris probably cost him a dollar or two... my guess is he is going for the same thing the A's did.....go into mediation and get a better deal....the bank doesn't want a house like that..they probably have more than they can handled as it is...so they negotiate.

Thanks sunny
I  am embarassed that I even asked in the first place! I had no idea  that  this happened. I was shocked ! To read this. I did apologize to klaasend and forgot about it until I read what transpired.

Loca

Out of the mouths of Babes!

 ::MonkeyDevil::

No biggie Loca, you are a sweetie. We all forgot about it too till Katsclown decided to rehash it. Some people just wanna cause trouble. Klaas the Monkey Goddess, puts a lot of time and effort into this forum to keep it on track and keep out the riffraff.  KatsClown walks in here with her whole 48 posts and decides to make snippy comments, she deserves what she got.

 ::MonkeyBike::

hi loca...forget about it....... ::MonkeyKiss:: katsclown obviously is one of those people who do not know when to leave well enough alone...

OK, not too far off topic, but I'm sitting here watching Dateline and they are talking about a Marine, Todd Sommer who was poisoned by his wife and the wife was convicted. Read below on how they viewed her behavior AFTER the death of her husband. Sound familiar??

Marine died suddenly

Todd Sommer, a healthy young Marine, died suddenly on February 18, 2002, in the home he shared with his wife, their infant son, and Cynthia Sommer's three children from a previous marriage.

His unexpected death was initially ruled due to cardiac arrhythmia. His wife donated his tissues and organs to research and his body was cremated.

But more than a year later, scientists found elevated levels of arsenic in Todd Sommer's tissues: more than 1,000 times the normal level in his liver and 230 times the acceptable level in his kidneys.

Cynthia Sommer was arrested and charged with his murder in November 2005.

Prosecutors admitted they had no evidence, no purchasing records, electronic paper trail or any direct link to prove that Sommer had access to the arsenic that killed her husband. Instead, they focused on the defendant's seeming inability to live within her means and her promiscuous behavior after her husband's death.

Witnesses testified that Sommer had breast implant surgery two months after Todd died, partied in Tijuana, Mexico, with girlfriends and entered wet T-shirt and thong contests.

"In the end," prosecutor Gunn said, "we had strong evidence and we're happy with the result."

It's ok Loca!  Notice that you didn't get banned, LOL  ::MonkeyHaHa::

lol. I wouldn't want that!    I can handle constructive criticism,   I dreamed that damn house lol bad nightmare!! Idont care to ever see that house.

Yeah, humans have certain behavior patterns. Weird, isn't it?
It's like Casey and this chick have some kind of slut addiction.

http://www.sandiego6.com/news/local/story/Cynthia-Sommer-Marine-San-Diego/Fa5SJrwVWU-afQd3BOGzUQ.cspx

Cynthia Sommer Turned Down in Effort to Clear Her Name in Death of Marine Husband

Last Update: 9/26/2009 12:18 am 
   
 SAN DIEGO - A Michigan woman lost her bid Friday to get murder charges stemming from her Marine husband's death dismissed in such a way that prosecutors could never refile the case against her.

Cynthia Sommer, now 35, was arrested in November 2005 in connection with the death more than three years earlier of 23-year-old Sgt. Todd Sommer at the couple's home at the Miramar Marine Corps Air Station.

She was subsequently convicted in January 2007, but a year later was granted a new trial.

In April 2008, while awaiting a retrial, prosecutors dismissed charges without prejudice when new tests showed no arsenic in Todd Sommer's body tissue.

Sommer then asked Judge John Einhorn to dismiss the case with prejudice, meaning murder charges could never be brought again.

Einhorn today denied a defense request for an evidentiary hearing into the matter and said he saw no basis for dismissing the case with prejudice, but wondered aloud if double jeopardy might apply.

"I can't imagine this case ever being retried," the judge said,

Sommer's attorney, Allen Bloom, said he was disappointed in the court's ruling, but added he was doubtful that his client would ever be brought up on murder charges again. 


I am looking for something more updated but I believe she is out, they made alot of mistakes

Oops I didn't mean to get in the quote box

I personally would like to "smack" that smirk off his ugly face. He "thinks" is so cool and he looks like an idiot in these interviews. I would not sleep with that man with my worst enemy's body. He is repulsive to me.

You monkeys will get a kick out of this...........I was reading that out loud to my friend and my 14 year old piped in and said " Don't be so mean Mom......it is obvious that man saying that is +++++++ and can't help it.

I have always wondered HOW he afforded that price house. I wondered HOW he qualified for the loan. One of the Monkeys posted a link to his cases a few months back and I went over all of them and even with the state paying the fees from what I could find he could not have made over $60,000 a year max. That is no where close enough to enough to qualify for a $600,000 + house. I have also wondered HOW KC hired him just out of the blue.............I believe there is another connection we haven't found yet.

I guess I missed all of this as I have been out of town as usual, but I SO AGREE with you and I don't do well with people coming in here and being rude to our moderators. This is a well run place with nice people and I for one, resent the heck out of someone jumping in and trying to demean SM or anyone involved.

My suggestion to anyone so inclined is to take it to the forums where they like all that crazy drama. This isn't one of them.

http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony Attorney Answers Questions On Jane Velez Mitchell Show
08/01/10

http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Monday, August 02, 2010
Jose Baez "Live" Caylee. Early Letter
Can you find linguistic indicators of deception? (Statement Analysis). Follow basic principles.
List logical or factual indicators of deception note separately. .

::MonkeyHaHa:: So glad you posted that Babybear, you took the same thought right out of my head.

::MonkeyAngel::

:smt045

::MonkeyHaHa:: To funny, Bia$$ can't even fool a 14 year old.  Uggh I so agree the man is repulsive.

:smt046 :2rofl: :smt046 :2rofl: :smt046 :2rofl: :smt046 :2rofl:

Tennessee depositions re scheduled for Sept. 22nd. Do you think BOZO will show up this time?

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/48545521/07262010-Defense-Bodyfarm-Depo-Notice

08/02/2010           Order Denying
Motion for Protective Order Regarding a Telephone Recording of Robin Lunceford

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234

Haven't found any articles about this motion being denied yet on Orlando's news websites....

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/24477242/detail.html
State Hopes To Make More Casey Evidence Public
Cindy Anthony's Interview With Investigators Expected To Be Released
POSTED: 11:47 am EDT August 2, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A spokeswoman for the State Attorney's office said she hopes to make public more information in the case against Casey Anthony this week.
Meanwhile, court records show the latest evidence to be turned over to her defense by prosecutors is a DVD of an interview given by Casey's mother, Cindy Anthony.

The interview is with the Orange County investigators on July 31, 2008.
It is unclear why the interview, now two years old, is being made available at this time.

After a deposition on Friday, the former meter reader who discovered the remains of Caylee Anthony said on Friday he has no regrets, even though he’s being portrayed as a potential murder suspect by the defense team.

Recently, attorney Jose Baez insisted the foreclosure on his Kissimmee home will not affect his defense of Casey Anthony.

Thanks Seemeatthebeach!   ::HelloKitty::

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/24477535/detail.html
Anthony Attorney's Call With Inmate To Be Released
Judge Denies Motion To Block Release Of Call

POSTED: Monday, August 2, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Judge Belvin Perry signed an order Monday morning allowing a recorded phone call between Casey Anthony's defense attorney Jose Baez and an inmate to be made public.

Anthony's defense had asked the judge to grant a motion to keep the call private.

According to Baez, Robin Lunceford admitted she and two other inmates conspired to frame Anthony and tried to be transferred to other prisons in exchange for information about Anthony.

Baez said he did not want the call released because he did not know Lunceford was in prison and the call was being recorded.

Perry reviewed the call last week and denied the motion Monday.

Anthony, who's jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, has pleaded not guilty and said a baby sitter kidnapped Caylee. The toddler's remains were found about six months after Anthony said she last saw her daughter alive.

Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

I love me some Judge Perry, When do we get it, huh,huh, huh?

Nyuk, Nyuk, Nyuk (like the Sogges would say).
Foiled again, Bozo.
Can't wait to hear your conversation with this jailbird.

I meant Stooges, not Sogges.
I hate this work PC.

Boy, and I even quoted the wrong article to boot!.
Oh well. I'll take Sindy's old deposition too.

 ::MonkeyBike::         http://www.wesh.com/pdf/24477717/detail.html

Thanks Much Trimm!!

Thank You Trimm !!!!!!!!
YAY!!!!!   ::MonkeyGavel::

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-inmate-phonecall-20100802,0,6934018.story
Judge allows release of prisoner inmate call to Casey Anthony attorney
By Anthony Colarossi, Orlando Sentinel
 
12:50 p.m. EDT, August 2, 2010
Orange-Osceola Chief Judge Belvin Perry just released an order that will allow state prisoner inmate phone calls made to Casey Anthony attorney Jose Baez in May to become part of the public record.

Baez had wanted a protective order placed on the conversation he had with state inmate Robin Lunceford, arguing that it amounted to an illegal recording because he said he was unaware their conversation was being recorded. He also argued that the conversations in the two phone calls amounted to work product – and therefore should not be public.

Lunceford had contacted Baez to talk about a conspiracy to make up lies about his client, according to Baez.

In Perry's order, he noted that the conversations are not considered work product because "it is inarguable that he did not 'produce' the recordings of the calls at issue; the prison did
"Since the recordings were made by the prison in accordance with its procedures, they constitute public records," Perry wrote in his order.

The order also states that the calls do not reveal Baez's impressions or opinions.

"To the contrary, the calls consist solely of Robin Lunceford's factual allegations regarding her contact with fellow inmate Maya Derkovic…the contents of the recordings do not contain any protected opinion work product of counsel exempt from discovery," the order states.

Baez filed his motion to have the calls sealed after learning that the prosecution would release the contents of the calls as part of discovery.

One call went into Baez's law office and was handled by a staffer. The second call was forwarded from his office on to his cell phone, and that's when he learned of the plot involving his client.

"It has been consistently held by Florida courts that there is no reasonable expectation of privacy in a telephone communication from jail where the inmate is warned that all calls are monitored or recorded," Perry's order states."This principle is equally applicable to counsel's claim. At the beginning of the call, counsel is warned by an automated message that the call was being placed from a correctional institution and was subject to monitoring and recording."

Perry also noted that Baez had to accept the prison call by pressing "1" on the phone. This action, Perry said, "demonstrated his consent."

Beyond that, Perry wrote, Lunceford warned Baez that the call was subject to recording.

"The court finds that there is simply no reasonable expectation of privacy where counsel is warned by both the automated messaging system and the witness that the calls are monitored and recorded," Perry said in concluding his denial of the protective order request.

Danielle Tavernier, spokeswoman for the Orange-Osceola State Attorney's Office, said the calls will not be released immediately.

"It will not be today," Tavernier said in an e-mail response. "As in the past records become public based on chronological order. At current, the next release of documents will be from supplemental discovery given to the defense on about [July 21]."

Thank-you for all the updates  ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/080210-perry-denies-anthony-defens-motion
Perry rejects Anthony defense motion
Updated: Monday, 02 Aug 2010, 12:51 PM EDT
Published : Monday, 02 Aug 2010, 12:48 PM EDT

ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL, FOX 35) - The judge in the case of a Florida mother charged with killing her 2-year-old daughter has rejected a defense request to keep a phone call between Anthony’s defense attorney Jose Baez and a jail inmate private.
Chief Judge Belvin Perry ordered Monday that the recording between inmate Robin Lunceford and Baez be made public
 ::monkeyscissors::

 ::cartwheel::  Message to Bozo-->  :smt098  :clown:

Trimmonthelake = much appreciated bearer of great tidings!

What's great about the dial of the motion to me is not so much that it's going to impact this case at all, but just because Baez was soooo peturbed about it. Petty of me I know but...  ::MonkeyDevil::

"denial" not  "dial". This is what happens when I fall asleep at the computer while reading Scared Monkeys.

I sure would like to know why they were canceled in the first place.....something is very sneaky about this....and have we heard anything about the experts 'review'?

hi seeme!! ::HelloKitty::

thanks trim...is this interview something we have seen before?

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::  ooopsssss BOZO failed yet again!

Hi Monks!  I've been looking around for this interview....have only found interview from7/30/08....not the next day, the 31st. Hmmmm......did Cindy get caught in one of her lies yet once again?  Has to be a good reason to release this right now, IMO.

This link has easy access to that 7/30 interview, which we will all remember.    http://www.cayleemarieanthony.net/files_released_by_law_enforcement.html

If anyone finds an interview from 7/31/08, please post the link.  Thanks!

I know just how you feel!   ::MonkeyDevil::

Hey Tupelo!   ::MonkeyDance::
I have not seen it either,but I want to.Here is the list from The Hinky Meter.
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/casey-anthony-murder-trial/searchable-discovery/

I don't think so.Only one I found was 07/30.Guess we will see.   ::MonkeyCool::

hi tupelo...I have been looking all over and can't find anything for an interview on 7/31...I am beginning to think the article has the incorrect date and it is in fact the 7/30 article you have linked

self edit...interview not article.....BURP!!

It could be a misprint of the date.....or there really is an interview that took place the next day. I mean, it took forever to get any real info out of Cindy. I can see them going at it again the next day. Just odd that it was held back until now. 

yep....guess we will find out sooner or later.....

Maybe it was held back because there was some information on it as a result of one of Cindy's answers that was important. The state culd have been waiting to requestion Cindy or another family member to see if the response would be different. Helping to impeach testimony one way or another. On the other hand, they could've just forgotten about or misplaced the interview.

Sunny, iirc those depos were scheduled on the same days his almighty experts were to be in Orlando to tamper view the evidence. I might be wrong but I think that is the reason


Trimm thanks for the link to the pdf....I sat here reading and could just hear Judge Perry's scorn for Bozo's ignorance.

http://www.wesh.com/news/24477803/detail.html
Judge: Lunceford Call To Be Released In Anthony Case
Anthony Defense Didn't Want Call Released
POSTED: 12:19 pm EDT August 2, 2010
UPDATED: 3:21 pm EDT August 2, 2010
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Judge Belvin Perry ruled on Monday that ruled on Monday that a phone conversation Casey Anthony's defense attorney Jose Baez had with a prison inmate will be released.

Baez had fought to prevent the recording from being released to the public, claiming he did not know the call was being recorded
Perry disagreed, saying in an order, “counsel was warned by Robin Lunceford herself that the call was subject to recording.”

The order said Baez had to press 1 on his phone to accept the call.

"The state was as diplomatic as they could be without coming out and calling him an outright liar," said criminal defense attorney Richard Hornsby.

Hornsby said Baez has damaged his credibility with Perry by making the claim that he didn't know the call was being recorded.

"For about two years, Jose Baez has been walking an ethical tightrope in the way he's handled this case and the representations he's made. What we're seeing is Jose Baez being knocked off this tightrope he's been walking," said Hornsby.
Lunceford claimed she conspired with two other inmates to plant false stories about Anthony. Prosecutors said the call contained Lunceford's so-called "rantings" about one or more inmates she claims to have conspired with.

A spokesperson from the state attorney's office said the call would not be released immediately.

hi Darla...yes you are correct. However there was speculation that it was set purposely to separate the State counsels....Burdick in Orlando with BOZO and Mason and Ashton in  TN with Baden..or perhaps I am mistaken or dreamed all that up!  LOL  today I am not sure of anything!! 

a small part of me is almost liking Hornsby!! ::MonkeyDevil::

I wonder if Baez will be giving any more interviews this week. I think he'll be too busy licking his wounds to whine to even JVM.

so glad that the defense requested a new judge on this case!  ::MonkeyDevil::

LOL! This is a great article! Telling it like it is.

Thank you Jose Baez! Brilliant move!    ::MonkeyJnBox::

I know what you mean. He calls them as he sees them.

http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2010/aug/02/oak-ridge-organization-has-long-history-broad/

Looks like OakRidge labs have formed a partnership right here in St Lucie County Florida.. if the are partnering with the county, with the blessings of local government, one must believe that it isn't junk science  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Now they are in Bozo's backyard...

::MonkeyGavel::  Well well can't wait to hear this and found out why Bia$$ wanted this sealed.  We may find out for real what a snake he is and it will come out of his own mouth.

::MonkeyDevil::

WOOHOO!  this is wonderful news.....BOZO must feel like this is just another kick to the ballz ....LOL

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/08/casey-anthony-tv-explores-whether-jose-baez-hurt-himself-with-judge.html
play out? »

Casey Anthony: TV explores whether Jose Baez hurt himself with judge
Caylee and Casey Anthony, George and Cindy Anthony, Jose Baez, WESH, WOFL — posted by halboedeker on August, 2 2010 5:27 PM
Discuss This: Comments(2) | Add to del.icio.us | Digg it Jose Baez has lost another one. What does it mean?

“A big setback,” WOFL-Ch. 35 anchor Cale Ramaker said.

Baez damaged his credibility with Judge Belvin Perry, said Orlando attorney Richard Hornsby,  who provides analysis on WESH-Ch. 2.

The news: Perry won’t seal a recorded phone call between Baez, Casey Anthony’s attorney, and prison inmate Robin Lunceford, who alleges other inmates are conspiring against Anthony. Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

Baez said he didn’t know he was being recorded during the Lunceford call — a claim the prosecution disputed. “The state in its response was as diplomatic as you could possibly be without coming out and calling him an outright liar,” Hornsby told WESH’s Bob Kealing.

In his decision, Perry noted that Baez had to push 1 to accept the call, and the judge said Baez had no right to privacy on the call.

“The judge basically saying Jose Baez should have known better,” WOFL anchor Amy Kaufeldt said.

Hornsby said Baez had been “walking an ethical tightrope” for two years and Perry’s ruling had knocked Anthony’s attorney off that tightrope.
WESH also reported that a spokeswoman for the State Attorney’s Office hopes to release more information in the Anthony case this week. “Court records show the latest evidence to be turned over to her defense by prosecutors is a DVD of an interview given by Casey’s mother, Cindy Anthony,” anchor Aixa Diaz said. “That interview is with Orange County investigators on July 31, 2008. It’s unclear why this 2-year-old interview is just now being made available.”

Uh Sunny, I don't think he has any hehe.

Hi Sunny--What ballz?

Offhand-I'd guess this depo will be taken without Baez doing the questioning ...

 ::MonkeyBike::   Someone should read this out loud to Baez ten times;   The learned judge is so beautifully thorough!!!

Richard Hornsby really nailed it.

 ::MonkeyDevil::  Go ahead and give in .... he's growing on me too [ and he is cute ]..lol --My heart belongs to Mr. Scheaffer, tho.

 ::MonkeyEek::     I didn't realize their credentials were so impressive.  The Defense is toast.

Thanks for all of the updates.

Good to see ya Sunny!! ::MonkeyBike::

The defense set up the deposition dates themselves, and then canceled. Evidently their plans did not go as they wanted. I do know there were some hard feelings with the law firm in Knoxville where they were originally set up because they canceled so late. All the people they had scheduled (court reporters, etc.) had to be notified and rescheduled which was considered very non professional.

That was SO STUPID of BOZO to lie to the court like that. I do expect to see some ethical charges placed against him when this trial is over. I think everyone is holding back right now just to get the trial over, but a blantant lie like that which when the judge listened to the calls realized was lie.

WHY would anyone be THAT STUPID? Did BOZO actually think this learned judge would take his word and not listen to the tapes?

I am like you, I am really interested in what HE said on that tape. I don't think what she said is of any consequence, since the state is not even calling the other inmates for depositions, but there is SOMETHING bozo is hiding.

yes...he thinks that he is smarter than everyone else...

I think he does, and he is SO stupid he doesn't even know he shows such total lack of knowledge and professionalism in everything he does. I honestly believe he could ONLY have passed law school by affirmative action "up grading".........I know 8th graders with more ability than this man.

Let's not forget......he TEACHES law courses. ::MonkeyConfused::   

Could it be the interview was part of one day and part of another? That way the date would have been the latest date it was completed. I am thinking the court reporter would have corrected any date mistakes.

http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2010/07/playing-phone-tag-with-jose-baez.html
Monday, August 2, 2010
Playing Phone Tag With Jose Baez
UPDATE!
August 2, 2010

Does Casey know Baez was busted with the phone call?
She doesn't have contact with her parents or anyone else except his team, right?
Could he be misleading her about his confidence to win this case and not telling her the whole truth?
Does Casey have access to newspapers?

I have thought from the beginning that she has been completely in the dark about her situation. Any decent attorney would have tried to have plead that down to manslaughter or negligent homicide before the body was found, but he was doing nothing. I am betting he kept telling her that he could get her off, that they did not have enough to convict her. She is young and stupid, and most likely believed that fool because she "thought" he was in love with her.

I have said from early on she could have walked with about 8 or 9 years tops by doing that but he was determined to make this "his historical case" and all he has succeeded in doing is putting that needle in her arm and going broke himself.

Ohhhhhhhhh ...that was so much fun to read!

 ::MonkeyDance::

How sweet it is !!

http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony Evidence To Be Released This Week
08/02/10

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/131264/Inmate%E2%80%99s-phone-calls-to-Baez-will-be-made-public
Inmate’s phone calls to Baez will be made public
By Jacqueline Fell, Reporter
Last Updated: Monday, August 02, 2010 10:11 PM
ORLANDO --

We will soon hear the phone calls an inmate made claiming Casey Anthony is being framed by two other inmates.

Robin Lunceford, a prison inmate, called Jose Baez and made allegations that two other inmates were making up stories about Anthony to get special treatment.

Baez was trying to stop two phone calls with Lunceford from being made public because he said he didn't know it was being recorded.
 
A judge said Baez was warned by the phone system and Lunceford herself the call was being recorded.

Judge Belvin Perry ordered the phone calls be made public.

Lunceford talked exclusively with News 13 last month where she said inmates Maya Derkovic and Robin Adams conspired to make up stories about Anthony in order to benefit their own sentences.

Good Morning Monks!  AAAHHHHHH,  ma cherie(s) Darla and BB....anyone who would knowingly LIE in Motion to Judge Perry, IMO has HUGE ones....not smart ones, just HUGE!   ::MonkeyDevil::

Good Morning

Have a BLESSED day!

JUSTICE for the little Sunshine Caylee!!  ::MonkeyAngel::

pb

Not going to give him ::MonkeyNoNo::  .....he is smart but his personality, is IMO very abrasive....and not very endearing....I'll stick with Bill Schaeffer...I prefer a gentleman to a smart azz!

thanks Turbo....I have yet to see BOZO or Mason do anything that I would deem professional...............so this is par for the course.

Hi cookie....he does ::rhino::

How scary is that.....he must teach a course on, How to look stupid and incompetent in court. ::MonkeyTongue::

could certainly be...as I said we are just going to have to wait...darn it!!

thanks trim...I love the way this is broken down...very informative read

hi JJ...my guess is yes!  Since Kc has a radio and TV time, I am guessing she knows....but her mind is so twisted she is only sad that he was caught. She only has contact with the team and anyone the team approves. I don't recall seeing any visits from any pastors, spiritual adviser's, etc for a year or more....guess her religious awakening has gone  to sleep.

Hi pb!

good morning everyone!
 ::MonkeyGavel::

Good morning pb.   ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::rhino::

Good morning cookie!

LOL @ Sunny's comment re Casey's religious awakening having gone to sleep ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/08/03/caylee-anthony-case-judge-perrys-educational-order/#comment-54669

Caylee Anthony case: Judge Perry’s educational order
Posted on August 3rd, 2010 by Valhall

thanks Scatty....and that's why I am not too excited about hearing the phone call.....but reading the smack down from JP is priceless

One of the posters at Hinkymeter wondered if maybe JB filed this ridiculous motion in the first place just to call attention to Robin Lunsford (sp) in order to muddy the waters. That was a disturbing thought. I also think it's possible Baez is filing such a ridiculous motion (so ridiculous that JP made a snarky comment that defense counsel should now know the Florida Sunshine laws) in order to give Casey grounds for appeal for having ineffective, incompetent counsel.

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234



08/03/2010           Notice of Taking Deposition Upon Oral Examination
08/03/2010           Amended Notice of Taking Deposition Upon Oral Examination
08/03/2010           Notice of Taking Deposition Upon Oral Examination



08/03/2010           Transaction Assessment            12.00
08/03/2010           Counter Payment    Receipt # CR-2010-48643    ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE    (12.00)
            

I would be on the muddy waters ::MonkeyWink::

MO...I don't think BOZO would do anything purposely to give Kc grounds for an appeal on ineffective counsel..why would he, really?  I do not believe he really 'cares' what happens to her, other than he is using her and Caylee's murder to further his 'career'...he plans to make a name for himself off this case...(he already has, just not the ones he thought). I think, in his mind, he has fashioned himself as a high profile, high demand DP attorney.  Big money guy!  I think in the end, he will get Kc to go for a plea..and I think the State will offer a last minute plea of LWOP...and then he can say he kept her from getting the DP. He will chalk it up as a win. I beleive this is why AL jumped ship...because LP wanted Kc to take a plea and BOZO said no....it would have been HER win...not HIS.....he needs it to be his win....

Hello Monkeys...Judge Perry, You are a gem!!!  One step closer to justice for Caylee...hang in there everyone, we will get there.

I am in awe of this man's knowledge of the law. One thing that concerned me a bit, and I hope it won't make a difference or give the defense anything to pounce on, is at the end of the order to deny, instead of Chapter 934 of Florida Statutes, Chapter 943 had been typed instead. An obvious typo but could Bozo make something out of it?

Forgot the link:
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24477531/detail.html

I am a nurse of decomposition ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRNmm7fN1xU

Good catch Scatty....JMO, I doubt it....hopefully it will be corrected just a CYA

I'm thinking she is in the dark too. Not only because she's in jail but because there is a certain power he has over her. And as SunnyinTX mentioned, she has access to tv and radio I still think she's only getting bits and pieces and Baez intentionally distracts her or tells her that the media is lying.

If I am not mistaken I read somewhere she only had TV in a "day room" for a short period of the day while the other inmates were not in there, which means she would most likely never see anything about her case. The radio does not do much in depth on the case.

Does Baez have the power over his dream-team as far as keeping Casey in the dark?  I can't imagine A. Lyon (or T. Lenamon) not telling Casey the way it is. Casey is in court for all motion hearings and if she pays attention, she can see for herself exactly what is going on with the handling of her case. She can speak up if she is unhappy with her counsel.  Casey knows she is going down, one way or the other, and if these endless motions buy her an extended stay in jail rather than prison, she doesn't care. She most likely doesn't care at all, about any of it, Caylee, her fate, just let Baez take care of it.  It's written all over her face in court......heck, it was written all over her face in all the photos we have seen of her while Caylee was dead and before anyone knew it.  Casey doesn't care about this whole situation one bit.....let someone else handle it....she can't be bothered.   ::MonkeyMad::  JMOO

I am SO SORRY I got in the middle of your post............

Most likely a typo, which hold no weight on appeal. If BOZO is going for an appeal on his stupidity of law then that is out because KC "hired" him and the state did not appoint him. Plus, the "main" death penalty lawyer is not him contrary to what he likes to make believe.

My brother (the attorney) says that for incompetent counsel appeal they have to also prove that with a different (better, wiser, etc.) attorney the verdict would have been different and that will never happen in this case.

I am so glad to hear that Turbo-   anyone can see that Baez is incompetent, but no one is forcing her to stay with him, and we already know that GA and CA have been writing to her all along, courtesy of Baez'  messenger service, and I am sure they have told her he's an idiot and she sticks with him, so she only has herself to blame...   

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/24499524/detail.html
Anthony Defense Sets Deposition Dates
2 Deputies, 2 Medical Examiners Will Take Stand

POSTED: Tuesday, August 3, 2010
UPDATED: 5:04 pm EDT August 3, 2010
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Local 6 News has learned when several key players in the in the Casey Anthony case will take the stand.

The defense has scheduled depositions with Sgt. John Allen, of Orange County Sheriff’s Office, at 9 a.m. on Sept. 15; Dr. Gary Utz, from the Orange County Medical Examiner's Office, at 9 a.m. on Sept. 23; Dr. Jan Garavaglia, Orange County medical examiner, at 1:30 p.m. on Sept. 23 and Cpl. William Edwards, of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, at 10 a.m. on Sept. 24.

Anthony is still in jail on charges of first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found in a wooded area near the family home in December 2008. Caylee was 2 years old when she was reported missing in July 2008.

Anthony’s trial is set to begin May 2011.

My brother said a good attorney would have deposed these people early on in the case in hopes they forgot some details before trial and then would be able to disprove some of their testimony.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/os-poll-casey-anthony-news-20100804,0,6815842.poll
Poll: Too much Casey Anthony news?

The appetite for news in the Casey Anthony case has led to the reporting of even very minor developments, raising questions about how much is too much.
vote at link.

http://mhutch.blogspot.com/2010/08/casey-anthonys-judge-belvin-perry.html
Tuesday, August 03, 2010
Casey Anthony's Judge Belvin Perry

http://alcoholism.about.com/b/2010/08/04/child-abuse-using-drugs-to-subdue-children.htm
Child Abuse: Using Drugs to Subdue Children
Wednesday August 4, 2010
Unfortunately, more than one million children a year in the United States suffer from some form of child abuse or neglect, but the numbers may be even higher if a new form of abuse is considered. Researchers say more and more children are being abused by the malicious use of pharmaceuticals.

Parents and caregivers are giving drugs to kids to subdue their behavior or to take a break from their childcare responsibilities.

This relatively new trend in child abuse was uncovered by Dr. Shan Yin of the Rocky Mountain Poison Drug Center in Denver. He looked at 1,400 cases of suspected pharmaceutical abuse between 2000 and 2008 which were reported to the National Poison Data System.
Malicious Use of Pharmaceuticals

The cases included parents and caregivers maliciously using alcohol, pain killers, cough and cold medicines, sedatives, sleeping pills and antipsychotic medicine on the child in their care.

Usually, child abuse is categorized into four types: neglect, physical abuse, sexual abuse and emotional abuse, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. But Dr. Yin says there is another category: malicious use of pharmaceuticals.

Yin said in a news release that the motives for giving children drugs range from punishment, amusement or a desire to take a break from childcare responsibilites.
Major Injury or Death

One of the most infamous cases of pharmaceutical child abuse is the case of Caylee Anthony( http://crime.about.com/od/missing/a/caylee.htm ) in Orlando, Florida. If the prosecutor's theory is correct, the 2-year-old died from a result of an overdose of ether, given to her by her mother, Casey Anthony, so that she could go out partying with her friends.

Dr. Yin said those kind of consequences resulted in 14% of the cases that he reviewed - children suffered moderate to major injury, including death. There are 160 such cases, including at least two deaths, each year, he said.

Yin said pediatricians and emergency medical personnel should be on the look out for this form of child abuse and use comprehensive drug screening if malicious drugging is suspected.

Dr. Yin's findings will be published in the Journal of Pediatrics.

Good Morning Monks!

Here is the Duhfence motions for the depos......HAT TIP to Muzikman

It is man interesting line up....and I noticed Mason is not copied or noted....I am not sure if that means anything or not....just noted it ::MonkeyWink::

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/48546512/07292010-Defense-Notice-of-Depos

more.....thanks MuzikMan!!



 MuzikMan got these

07.19.2010 SA Notice of Cancellation of Depo Bradley Wright [Kronk]
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/48538453...lation-of-Depo

07/26/2010 Defense Notice Of Depo (Bodyfarm staff)
Michael Burnett, Madhavi Martin, Mark Wise, David Glasgow, Dr Vass
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/48545521...rm-Depo-Notice

07/29/2010 Defense Notice of Depos (Dr. Jan G, Gary Utz, Yuri Melich,
Gerardo bloise, Dawn Murphy, Michael Vincent, Jennifer Welch,
Jesse Grund, Richard Grun
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/48546512...otice-of-Depos

July 30, 2010
Roy Kronk - Defense depo

August 6, 2010
Gerardo Bloise - Orange County Sheriff's Office
Dawn Murphy - supposed to be "Murray" - Dept Children & Families
Michael Vincent - CSI Inv searched Anthony backyard with dogs
Jennifer Welch - OCSO

August 11, 2010 - Defense RESCHEDULED from July 30, 2010
Jesse Grund
Richard Grund

August 13, 2010 - Defense RESCHEDULED from July 9, 2010
Dr. Jan Garavaglia - Medical Examiner

September 10, 2010 - Defense RESCHEDULED from Sept 3, 2010
Yuri Melich - OCSO

September 23, 2010 - Defense RESCHEDULED from July 9, 2010
Gary Utz - Medical Examiner

July 13, 2010 - Defense depositions - all RESCHEDULED for Sept 21, 2010 in Knoxville, TN
Michael N. Burnett - Oak Ridge Lab
David C. Glasgow - Oak Ridge Lab
Madhavi Z. Martin - Oak Ridge Lab
Mark Wise - Oak Ridge Lab

July 14, 2010 - Defense deposition - RESCHEDULED for September 22, 2010 in Knoxville, TN
Arpad Alexander Vass - Oak Ridge Lab

July 21, 2010 - State deposition - State CANCELED this deposition
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/48538453...lation-of-Depo
Bradley Wright - former roommate of Kronk - depo in Miami, FL
__________________

Wonder what's up with all the re-scheduling of depos.

I believe Casey's been asked on many occassions if she's satisfied with her counsel.
The reason she's forced to attend the hearings is that she is informed about what's transpiring in her case.
If she doesn't take advantage of her presence in the courtroom, that's her problem.
If she'd been speaking with the A's, I'm sure they would have convinced her by now that Bozo is a moron.
George tried to convince her to dump his azz when she was first locked up.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-public-records-debat20100809,0,2020860,full.story
Does Casey Anthony's right to a fair trial trump public's right to know?
The Casey Anthony trial is still months away.
 By Anthony Colarossi, Orlando Sentinel

8:05 a.m. EDT, August 4, 2010
With the Casey Anthonytrial still months away, and a seemingly insatiable appetite for every morsel of information in the case, journalists and bloggers must make do with the scraps of news they can find.

In recent days, we learned the young woman charged with her child's murder owed the Orange County Jail about $40 but then had her jail account replenished. Her parents appear to be emerging from the threat of foreclosure and keeping their home. Her defense, meanwhile, has billed the state about $3,800 in expenses, while her attorney struggled with his own financial issues.

Such details get served to a public hungry for information in the absence of true developments in the death-penalty case. And when real news breaks, the coverage only grows more intense in print, online and on television. And this has the defense team questioning whether it can get a fair trial when the public's right to know at times seems — to them — to trump their client's rights.

"At some point, a balancing of the First Amendment rights to report must be had against the eminently more important rights of the defense to effective counsel, due process and equal protection," defense attorney J. Cheney Mason wrote in a recent filing, one of several asking for certain case documents to be kept out of the public record. "This is a case of the state of Florida versus Casey Anthony. This is not a case of news media and John Q. Public."
Like the O.J. case?

The media and public may not be parties in the case, but their collective fascination with an attractive young Orlando mother accused of killing her adorable toddler Caylee Marie — as well as the series of twists in the two-year-old story — is apparent.

The appetite for all news involving Anthony is fed by a perfect media storm: a 24-hour news cycle, national TV programs devoted to high-profile court cases, a culture embracing blogs and immediate online news, competitive local media and Florida's generous public-records law.

Defense attorney Jose Baez argues these factors have helped catapult Anthony's prosecution to a "mega-high-profile case" similar in some ways to the media interest in the O.J. Simpson murder trial and, more recently, Scott Peterson's trial, after which he was sent to California's death row for killing his pregnant wife Laci.

Award-winning broadcast journalist Judy Muller covered the O.J. Simpson criminal case for ABC's Nightline. She also covered his civil trial. And she says Casey Anthony is no O.J. in terms of scope, national attention or social significance.

The Peterson case — with its storyline of a cheating, selfish husband set on freeing himself from family responsibility — is a more apt comparison, says Muller, who today teaches at the University of Southern California's Annenberg School for Communication & Journalism.
"I see no larger social themes behind this case [Casey Anthony's] that would justify the media attention," Muller said.

With O.J. Simpson's trial, Muller said her work focused on larger issues such as big money buying a top defense team and the underlying racial themes inherent in that case.

She acknowledged, however, the media landscape has changed much in the 15 or 16 years since Simpson's criminal case erupted.

"The circus has come to town again, except there are countless rings. There is no more ring master," Muller said, referring to the variety of platforms — from bloggers to television talk shows — used to weigh in on the case. "Nobody is filtering anything anymore, and when everything is important, nothing is important."

The intense public scrutiny can bolster the defense's argument that continuing coverage of the Anthony case by television host and former prosecutor Nancy Grace, for example, is hurting their client's chances at a fair trial, Muller said.

But, said Muller: "They said the same thing about O.J. Simpson, and he was acquitted."

'Multiple battles'

It's not as if Floridians are unfamiliar with high-profile crime cases elevated by celebrity or outrageous and bizarre circumstances. A brief sampling: Danny Rolling and the Gainesville murders, Gianni Versace's shooting death in Miami Beach, Aileen Wuornos' serial murders. And most recently, former astronaut Lisa Nowak's heartbroken and angry trek to Orlando to confront the other woman.
Still, the Casey Anthony saga is something different with blogs, Facebook pages and traditional journalists competing to provide a steady IV-drip of information for Casey news junkies.

"I'm fighting multiple battles here," says Baez, adding some get waged in the courtroom and others in the court of public opinion. "Somebody at some point has to say enough is enough."

Yet some suggest Baez and company have themselves contributed to the frenzy by playing to the media. Perhaps no one illustrated this in a more pointed way than Orange Circuit Judge Stan Strickland. The judge recused himself from the case after the defense team complained about a "personal relationship" he had with a blogger critical of its client.

"At its core, defense counsel's motion accuses the undersigned of being a 'self-aggrandizing media hound,' " Strickland wrote in his April recusal order. "Indeed. The irony is rich."

Months later, that document is still talked about — and chuckled over — in Orange County Courthouse corridors. Baez, however, called the order "highly inappropriate" and said he has used the media chiefly in his role as an advocate for his client.

Free-press issue

Experts in the journalism and legal worlds note that conflicts between news organizations covering popular cases and the attorneys trying them are not new. They often boil down to First Amendment versus vs. Sixth Amendment rights.

"That tension has existed for a long time," said Clay Calvert, a First Amendment expert at the University of Florida, adding that case law sets a high threshold for when the media can be "gagged" from court coverage.

While this case may be unique because of the intense online interest, Calvert said, "We can't really roll back on the technology. The bottom line is this situation is going to arise again and again and again."

Ultimately, Calvert said, it is up to the judge and the attorneys to seat a jury that will fairly hear the evidence at trial. That, he said, can be done despite the swirl of media attention.
Believe it or not, not everyone paying attention to mass media is familiar with Casey Anthony. Mike Hoyt, the executive editor of the Columbia Journalism Review, didn't recall the case specifically when asked by a reporter.

"Clearly, when the media circus goes on steroids, it's not a pretty thing," Hoyt said. But he struggled to come up with a remedy. "Preventing a free press. That's a little dangerous."

Meanwhile, Charles Rose, a professor at the Stetson University College of Law and legal analyst, has paid close attention to the Casey Anthony case and is concerned about the pre-trial publicity.

"It has become entertainment," Rose said of the case. "Justice is not served for anybody."

Anthony Colarossi can be reached at acolarossi@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5447.

Thanks Sunny!  ::HelloKitty::

http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthonyblog/index.html
Legal Analyst Bill Sheaffer on Casey Anthony Case
Discourse or Discord?
Posted in Latest Posts by William J. Sheaffer on August 4, 2010

thanks trim...as always the voice of good, sound knowledge of the law....thanks Mr. Shaeffer

Sunny, I agree. It is a pleasure to listen to him and read what he has written as well.
There will be justice for Caylee and many work to that end.

 ::MonkeyBike::   Mr. Smoothe & Calm

That was my call on this latest sham....its hammer time  ::MonkeyGavel::   Damasses   

And what's this that he wants to sue for pictures that he put on his public site being taken, he'll lose that battle embarrassingly if they were not copyrighted/watermarked or not kept blocked from public view.  Bottom line, if he didnt want them viewed publicly, he shouldnt have posted them as they become public domain.  Evidently, Bozo not only has a disregard for the law that he attempts to practice but paying his debts, he's an absolute dolt.   One has to wonder, is this tool even still married, if so when is she going to tell this smuck to take a hike before she loses everything along with him, honestly!

You have a point about ineffective counsel but it wont fly.   Casey has a team of attorneys that ALL should know these basics, they cannot claim ignorance to it nor claim that they overlooked it due to the fact that every other month they are in there arguing against the Florida Sunshine Law & their clients privacy/constitutional rights.   In addition, Casey is choosing to maintain these clowns to represent her and has been an active participant in her own defense.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/08/casey-anthony-how-will-it-end-tell-us.html

 Casey Anthony: How will it end? Tell us
Caylee and Casey Anthony — posted by halboedeker on August, 4 2010 4:55 PM
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A reader suggested a poll on the outcome in the Casey Anthony case. So how do you think this case will end?

1. Anthony is acquitted of the murder of her daughter, Caylee.

2. Anthony gets life.

3. Anthony gets death.

4. There’s a mistrial.

5. She pleads guilty to a lesser charge.


Comments


Hey!! That was me who suggested it. Thanks!
I vote that Casey gets life in prison.
Reply Posted by: Lisa | Wednesday, August 4, 2010 at 5:02 PM

I agree with Lisa. She’ll get life in prison. (Although she deserves the death penalty.)
Reply Posted by: BC | Wednesday, August 4, 2010 at 5:04 PM

My vote is life, although I agree with BC, she deserves death. Wouldn’t the SA have to offer a lesser charge for her to plead guilty? I don’t see that happening.
Reply Posted by: KP | Wednesday, August 4, 2010 at 5:16 PM

I THINK SHE WILL GET LIFE, BUT I WISH SHE WOULD GET DEATH
Reply Posted by: PAMMILEE | Wednesday, August 4, 2010 at 5:17 PM

I think Casey DESERVES the death penalty, but I believe she will get LIFE imprisonment. Either one is OK with me.
Reply Posted by: Jen Sanders | Wednesday, August 4, 2010 at 5:26 PM

Casey Anthony will get life….without parole….but she deserves the death penalty and should get that.
Reply Posted by: PAGrandma1 | Wednesday, August 4, 2010 at 5:33 PM

Life in prison
Reply Posted by: Irma | Wednesday, August 4, 2010 at 5:35 PM

While it truly is not what she deserves, the DP is, she will get LIFE. Which has its benefits…..
1. She will be in Gen pop and subject to daily harrassment by her peers (HAHAHA)
2. No more BOYS (again, HAHAHA)
3. Night clubs are no more.
4. She has to “live” with the image of OUR PRECIOUS CAYLEE, in her mind as she lays down to sleep. (Even tho she is heartless, her mind still sees CAYLEE)
Just to name a few…..
MUUUUUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Reply Posted by: Death is too NICE for Casey | Wednesday, August 4, 2010 at 5:37 PM

Life, but she deserves death IMO.
Reply Posted by: jodyo | Wednesday, August 4, 2010 at 5:44 PM

Deserves death but will reach a last minute plea deal and get life.
Reply Posted by: Deb | Wednesday, August 4, 2010 at 5:52 PM

Life in prison.
Reply Posted by: Carrie123 | Wednesday, August 4, 2010 at 5:56 PM

Death is to Nice5:37
I don’t think Casey’s mind will see Caylee, she would of had to have some love for her and I don’t think Casey loved anyone (not even her family) but Casey. The video’s and pictures of her with Caylee, I beleive was all a show for her parents and whoever was around. I hope she gets life with no chance of parole, it I believe would be just punishment, death would be to easy, I would like for her to suffer being locked up. To the bleeding hearts who think I am cruel, too bad, how cruel was it to kill your own daughter!
Reply Posted by: tjs | Wednesday, August 4, 2010 at 6:00 PM

I feel as though she will get life although she deserves death… I can not see Casey willing to go for a plea deal .. Not with her attitude that she can get away with anything…
Reply Posted by: Patricia | Wednesday, August 4, 2010 at 6:01 PM

like most of you, i feel she deserves death, but probably will get life, by the time, the death penalty would actually happen, she will probably be dead anyway, very long process………..she would have waited all her life for the death penalty to be carried out…
Reply Posted by: lao | Wednesday, August 4, 2010 at 6:01 PM

Life without parole, although if it’s proved that she put the duck tape on Caylee before she took her last breath she should get the dp.
Reply Posted by: red | Wednesday, August 4, 2010 at 6:04 PM

I think that as lenghty as this has been, the SAO has no intention of offering a plea deal. They are confident in the evidence and their ability to proscute her that they will see it through and settle for LIFE.
It is also far to late for Bozo to be considering and type of mental defect in his client. This tactic may be for sentencing phasing only. He does get to try and I use that term QUITE LOOSELY, try to prove any mitigating evidence on behalf of his client.
I also think that they are going to snip GEORGE in the cojones and use him as an escapegoat. They might as well, they have tried everything else!
In the end CAYLEE MARIE WILL GET JUSTICE!
Reply Posted by: Death is too NICE for Casey | Wednesday, August 4, 2010 at 6:04 PM

WTG Lisa!
Anthony will get LWOP.
I do believe the jury will take into consideration the irresponsibility of this extremely dysfunctional family. Did Anthony chose to kill? Definitely. I was surprised by Scot Peterson’s trial so the Florida jurors may surprise me.
I will be very happy when Caylee FINALLY receives the justice she deserves, and the Anthonys disappear!
Awaiting Justice For Caylee
Reply Posted by: hatcat | Wednesday, August 4, 2010 at 6:10 PM

I believe LWOP. I will go further… KC will fire JB and will put the blame on her parents and JB for her sentence.
I would like her to get death but I am not sure, unless JP will suggest it. Is it possible JP will determine KC’s fate? Where is Jonathan?
Posted by:   FRG   |  Wednesday, August 4, 2010 at 6:29 PM

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/132384/Call-between-Casey%E2%80%99s-pen-pal,-Orange-Co.-Corrections-obtained


Call between Casey’s pen pal, Orange Co. Corrections obtained
Casey-in-court-0527
Casey Anthony in court
By Adam Longo, Reporter
Last Updated: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 5:00 PM
ORLANDO --

New details are emerging about the women who befriended Casey Anthony behind bars.

A phone call with one of those women, obtained exclusively by News 13, is giving us a better picture of how those inmates communicated behind bars.

This call is a recording between Maya Derkovic, one of Casey Anthony's alleged pen pals, and a captain with Orange County Corrections.

News 13 told you in early July that Silva Hernandez, a corrections officer, was fired for essentially facilitating the relationship between Anthony and the other inmates.

Hernandez was accused of allowing inmates in protective custody, including Anthony, to talk with one another, which is against jail policy.

Hernandez was allegedly aware of the inmates passing notes to each other as well.
   
In the process of the jail investigating Hernandez, one of the investigators talked with Derkovic and recorded the conversation.

Captain Watts: What was your relationship like with inmate Anthony and inmate Adams?
Derkovic: Because we were .. all three of us were the only PC's, we, we were the ones that stayed there for the longest and talked to each other through the doors, through the vents, through letters and we just became friends.
Watts: So you guys did consider yourselves friends?
Derkovic: Yes sir.

This conversation would certainly contradict what Derkovic's former cellmate told us in an exclusive interview.

Inmate Robin Lunceford told News 13 that Derkovic and another inmate, Robin Adams, made up stories about their friendship with Anthony to get themselves better deals.

There's much more to this phone call and Hernandez’s alleged involvement.

On News 13 at 9 p.m., you'll hear about how Anthony and another inmate were allowed time together, and you won't believe what the corrections officer let them do.

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/24515043/detail.html

Controversial Tape Turned Over To Casey Defense
State Gives Defense Recorded Phone Conversation Between Baez, Inmate

POSTED: 4:20 pm EDT August 4, 2010
UPDATED: 5:49 pm EDT August 4, 2010
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ORLANDO, Fla. -- Prosecutors turned over a controversial tape, a recorded phone conversation between Casey Anthony defense attorney Jose Baez and a prison inmate, to Anthony's defense team on Wednesday.

WESH 2 News recently reported that Baez asked the judge to prevent prosecutors from releasing an audiotape of Baez speaking on the phone to a department of corrections inmate.

Judge Belvin Perry denied the defense's motion.

The inmate, Robin Lunceford, is a reported career criminal serving life in prison and has 27 aliases according to her listing at the Orange County Department of Corrections.

In court papers, Baez claimed Lunceford called him two months ago and claimed she conspired with two other inmates to plant false stories about Anthony.

Defense attorney Richard Hornsby said all of the inmates who have come forward to offer information lack credibility.

"I'm willing to bet the state is not going to rely on these jailhouse snitches in the first place," Hornsby said.

In a 2005 Miami Herald article, Lunceford was called the most prolific informant in the the Miami-Dade jail. The article said Lunceford offered information against at least four murder defendants.

Besides the tape, prosecutors turned over eighteen pages of documents including two pages of unknown information from Roy Kronk. Counting this latest disclosure, there are now 22691 pages of evidence and information in this case.

the call is released today to BOZO and now channel 13 obtained a copy exclusive!!  My, my...I do believe that is BOZO's favorite station!!! ::MonkeyWink:: 

I wonder if any money changed hands. I think he's unscrupulous. He probably wanted to make sure Channel 9 got scooped.

Is 13 going to release their exclusive?

Thanks Sunny! ::MonkeyDance::

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/08/casey-anthony-how-will-it-end-tell-us.html
Casey Anthony: How will it end? Tell us
Caylee and Casey Anthony — posted by halboedeker on August, 4 2010 4:55 PM
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A reader suggested a poll on the outcome in the Casey Anthony case. So how do you think this case will end?

1. Anthony is acquitted of the murder of her daughter, Caylee.

2. Anthony gets life.

3. Anthony gets death.

4. There’s a mistrial.

5. She pleads guilty to a lesser charge.

#2

http://www.wesh.com/news/24515043/detail.html
Controversial Tape Turned Over To Casey Defense
State Gives Defense Recorded Phone Conversation Between Baez, Inmate

POSTED: 4:20 pm EDT August 4, 2010
UPDATED: 5:49 pm EDT August 4, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Prosecutors turned over a controversial tape, a recorded phone conversation between Casey Anthony defense attorney Jose Baez and a prison inmate, to Anthony's defense team on Wednesday.
WESH 2 News recently reported that Baez asked the judge to prevent prosecutors from releasing an audiotape of Baez speaking on the phone to a department of corrections inmate.

Judge Belvin Perry denied the defense's motion.

The inmate, Robin Lunceford, is a reported career criminal serving life in prison and has 27 aliases according to her listing at the Orange County Department of Corrections.

In court papers, Baez claimed Lunceford called him two months ago and claimed she conspired with two other inmates to plant false stories about Anthony.

Defense attorney Richard Hornsby said all of the inmates who have come forward to offer information lack credibility.
"I'm willing to bet the state is not going to rely on these jailhouse snitches in the first place," Hornsby said.

In a 2005 Miami Herald article, Lunceford was called the most prolific informant in the the Miami-Dade jail. The article said Lunceford offered information against at least four murder defendants.

Besides the tape, prosecutors turned over eighteen pages of documents including two pages of unknown information from Roy Kronk. Counting this latest disclosure, there are now 22691 pages of evidence and information in this case.

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After seeing Linda Drane Burdick in action (very impressive) and Jeff Ashton very briefly describing the crime against Caylee, I feel they will get a conviction and after the Jury hears all about the duct tape they will impose the death sentence.

Quote:  Evidently, Bozo not only has a disregard for the law that he attempts to practice but paying his debts, he's an absolute dolt.   

Cappuccino...hear, hear!!

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/132384/Call-between-Casey%E2%80%99s-pen-pal,-Orange-Co.-Corrections-obtained
Call between Casey’s pen pal, Orange Co. Corrections obtained
By Adam Longo, Reporter
Last Updated: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 9:24 PM
ORLANDO --

In the Case against Casey, we're hearing directly from a woman who claims to be one of Casey's Anthony's jailhouse friends.
 
In the exclusive recording, inmate Maya Derkovic tells an Orange County Corrections captain how they would all communicate with each other, even though they weren't supposed to.

Watts: Tell me about your relationship, uh, with Officer Hernandez.

Orange County Corrections Capt. Anthony Watts was investigating Corrections Officer Silvia Hernandez after allegations surfaced she was facilitating a friendship between three inmates in protective custody -- Robin Adams, Maya Derkovic and Anthony.

Derkovic: We were the ones that stayed there for the longest and talked to each other through the doors, through the vents, through letters and we just became friends.
Watts: So you guys did consider yourselves friends?
Derkovic: Yes sir.

Hernandez involvement came to light after an FDLE interview revealed she was allowing the inmates to talk and pass notes.

Watts: Did you ever observe, um, inmate Anthony and inmate Adams -- do you know those two inmates?
Derkovic: Yes sir.
Watts: Did you ever observe them passing notes with each other?
Derkovic: Yes sir.
Watts: Tell me a little bit about that.
Derkovic: Um, well, it would either be through a trustee that they would pass notes. or, it would be when one comes out the cell, one will pass the note. Because, sometimes I'd pass the note between them too. I was friends with both of them. So we, any, any chance we had, we would pass a note, either through a trustee or when we come out ourselves.

In another incident that violated jail policy .. Anthony and Adams were allowed time alone with each other.

Watts: What about them cutting each other's hair?
Derkovic: No, I don't recall that. It might have happened without me noticing, but never saw it happen.

In fact, in the investigative documents obtained by News 13 "Officer Hernandez acknowledged allowing two protective custody inmates to have physical contact by providing inmate Anthony a pair of scissors and allowing her to cut inmate Adams hair."

Hernandez was fired in early July when the jail released the results of its investigation.

Derkovic wasn't the only one who Corrections officials wanted to talk to.

Watts reached out to Jose Baez to see if Anthony herself would talk, but he was denied.

Adams said she wouldn't talk without her attorney, but Corrections officials couldn't reach him.
   
Both Derkovic and Adams have turned down our requests for interviews as well.

    *  Casey Anthony's pen pal's phone call obtained Watch Video  http://www.cfnews13.com/video?clip=http://static.cfnews13.com/newsvideo/cfn/ADAMPLASCASEYW_080420100523.flv
    * Maya Derkovic call with Orange County Corrections Watch Video  http://www.cfnews13.com/video?clip=http://static.cfnews13.com/newsvideo/cfn/call_080420100741.flv

The fur is gonna fly!

So Cindy, where are those receipts?  (she claimed to have receipts for the last 2 weeks where Casey was)   George was really trying to shut her up there. 

Point of fact is they all knew it couldnt have been the 8th, Casey said she dropped Caylee off to "Zanny the Nanny" on the 9th - the lie amongst all of them bounced off of that & they are not kidding anyone on that point.   Cindy's mother, I so feel for that woman...I wonder how she and her husband are doing, what a horrid thing to go throw in elder years with health issues.   Cindy should rot in H E double hockey sticks just for what she put her mother threw, never mind the monster she raised & enabled.

I don't believe that the only thing they did was cut each others hair... hmmmm... a little girl on girl stuff is what this is suggesting... I think.
Which means that they were close friends and I would trust this testimony. But then Baez brings in Lunchford to discredit the girl bond like he is doing with George, and everyone else. Add to that keeping Casey in the dark about what she really faces actually works well for the prosecution. That's cool.

http://mhutch.blogspot.com/2010/08/whats-on-that-tape-jose-baez-doesnt.html
Thursday, August 05, 2010
What's On That Tape Jose Baez Doesn't Want Us To Hear?

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/132384/Call-between-Casey%E2%80%99s-pen-pal,-Orange-Co.-Corrections-obtained
Call between Casey’s pen pal, Orange Co. Corrections obtained
y Adam Longo, Reporter
Last Updated: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 11:41 PM
ORLANDO --

In the Case against Casey, we're hearing directly from a woman who claims to be one of Casey's Anthony's jailhouse friends.
 
In the exclusive recording, inmate Maya Derkovic tells an Orange County Corrections captain how they would all communicate with each other, even though they weren't supposed to.

Watts: Tell me about your relationship, uh, with Officer Hernandez.

Orange County Corrections Capt. Anthony Watts was investigating Corrections Officer Silvia Hernandez after allegations surfaced she was facilitating a friendship between three inmates in protective custody -- Robin Adams, Maya Derkovic and Anthony.

Derkovic: We were the ones that stayed there for the longest and talked to each other through the doors, through the vents, through letters and we just became friends.
Watts: So you guys did consider yourselves friends?
Derkovic: Yes sir.

Hernandez involvement came to light after an FDLE interview revealed she was allowing the inmates to talk and pass notes.

Watts: Did you ever observe, um, inmate Anthony and inmate Adams -- do you know those two inmates?
Derkovic: Yes sir.
Watts: Did you ever observe them passing notes with each other?
Derkovic: Yes sir.
Watts: Tell me a little bit about that.
Derkovic: Um, well, it would either be through a trustee that they would pass notes. or, it would be when one comes out the cell, one will pass the note. Because, sometimes I'd pass the note between them too. I was friends with both of them. So we, any, any chance we had, we would pass a note, either through a trustee or when we come out ourselves.

In another incident that violated jail policy .. Anthony and Adams were allowed time alone with each other.

Watts: What about them cutting each other's hair?
Derkovic: No, I don't recall that. It might have happened without me noticing, but never saw it happen.

In fact, in the investigative documents obtained by News 13 "Officer Hernandez acknowledged allowing two protective custody inmates to have physical contact by providing inmate Anthony a pair of scissors and allowing her to cut inmate Adams hair."

Hernandez was fired in early July when the jail released the results of its investigation.

Derkovic wasn't the only one who Corrections officials wanted to talk to.

Watts reached out to Jose Baez to see if Anthony herself would talk, but he was denied.

Adams said she wouldn't talk without her attorney, but Corrections officials couldn't reach him.
   
Both Derkovic and Adams have turned down our requests for interviews as well.

Does this mean Ms. Anthony, her attorney, and the truth are strangers?

 ::MonkeyGavel::

Hey Bearly!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-poll-casey-anthony-news-20100804,0,7160615,post.poll?status=voteplaced

results so far of the poll OS posted yesterday




Poll: Too much Casey Anthony news?

The appetite for news in the Casey Anthony case has led to the reporting of even very minor developments, raising questions about how much is too much.

What do you think?

    *      More, more, more! I can't get enough of this case. (632 responses)
      48%

    *      Give me a break. I'm sick of the Anthonys and the media circus surrounding them. (543 responses)      41%

 *      I don't really care. I have more important things to worry about. (152 responses)      11%

1327 total responses

(Results not scientific)

http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthonyblog/index.html

art tart said, on August 4, 2010 at 12:33 pm

Bill Shaeffer replies to the above poster:

It will be the “totality of the evidence that will convict KC,” there is absolutely no believable “lie that Baez & KC can make up about the 31 days” that anyone with common sense would believe. Again, I will be very surprised if this case is tried but I certainly hope it is.[/u]

another from Bill Shaeffer's blog...I just LOVE this man, suspenders and all!

 art tart said, on August 4, 2010 at 6:02 pm

Venice said, on August 4, 2010 at 1:12 pm
The State’s closing presentation will be shocking and jurors will shed a tear for a little girl that rotted in her mother’s trunk.
_____________________________________
Venice, I agree totally, Ashton’s presentation thus far when arguing about the DP w/Lyon’s is just a “part of the closing argument,” the description of Caylee’s last moments on earth were heart breaking.

Mason will deliver the “closing for KC as Baez isn’t DP qualified, I can’t imagine what it will encompass or even if he can remember the closing in it’s entirety to present. jmo, KC’s defense if so disconnected I can’t imagine that they can dispute all the KC’s lies, the 31 days missing, all the testimony of LE/Detectives/FBI, that’s just a few things since KC won’t likely testify, I am anxiously awaiting their “excuses, lies, & desperation” they think the jury will buy. It would seem “something’s gotta give with this defense, Baez has resorted to blatantly “lying to Judge P in Court over RL’s calls.” Bet A Lyon’s is glad she bailed from this defense.


 ::MonkeyJustice::

this link was posted as insessions message board....I decided to listen as I was feeding my dogs.....I remember seeing it before....but what a refresher....if you have the time, it's worth listening to...it's Lee and Kc..

Lee warns her about Baez...he is not returning calls to LE, Lee says BOZO says his priorities are #1 Casey, # 2, Caylee.  Lee says in HIS opinion of BOZO's priorities , the order is #1 HIMSELF (BOZO), 2 Kc, 3 Caylee.  Lee says his personal priorities are 1 - Caylee, 2 - Kc, 3- sin-sin, 4-george and 5-himself.  Of course Kc says those are hers as well....he also tells her that BOZO is not obligated to pass on anything just becasue she wants him too?  Anyway....I am going to listen again...but it's a good refresher IMO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPzH5kD8Pl4&feature=related

this is part 3 of that meeting. It is my belief that this is when Kc tells Lee where Caylee is...starting at 1:50 minutes....she tells him to look locally, place familiar to their family....she tells him to ask sin-cin about SPECIFIC places she mentioned in the past couple of weeks.

I don't get how the suggestion that the case won't be tried is even part of the discussion?
Isn't it too late for that? She hasn't been offered a plea and all the time and $ wasted as long as this has been dragging on.
I'd love for her to fess up but why would she? She thinks she'll be strollong out of that jail cell swinging from Bozo and the Jar's arms.

I was doing the same thing earlier.   ::MonkeyTongue::
It amazes me at all the things we have heard,watched and listened to in this case.I would love to personally sit through the whole trial and watch it all unfold.  ::rhino::
I am not a legal dynamo,but it is fascinating.