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Title: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 - 8/16/10
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 29, 2010, 10:00:35 AM
(http://www.flutterbyewings.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/cayleencmc.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Brandi on August 09, 2010, 07:30:46 PM
Since it is still Caylee's Birthday, I wanted to post this again.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Caylee-5.png)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 09, 2010, 07:32:05 PM
Justice for Caylee!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 09, 2010, 07:33:25 PM
 ::MonkeyDance::   I see Brandi and Wyks have made it to the new thread!! ::MonkeySlide::

Brandi, I used the lovely artwork you created in honor of Caylee's Birthday in the next thread #169 OP.  By the time we start posting in thread 169, Caylee's birthday for this year will have come and gone, but she will still be remembered.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Brandi on August 09, 2010, 07:35:16 PM
::MonkeyDance::   I see Brandi and Wyks have made it to the new thread!! ::MonkeySlide::

Brandi, I used the lovely artwork you created in honor of Caylee's Birthday in the next thread #169 OP.  By the time we start posting in thread 169, Caylee's birthday for this year will have come and gone, but she will still be remembered.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Okay.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 09, 2010, 07:35:53 PM
Okay.  That's weird.  I can see Brandi and Wyks names up in the rafters, but I don't see trimmy, and I've not seen her name up there, yet she's posted.  Trimm, are you here?  I will have to report this glitch. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Wyks on August 09, 2010, 07:36:42 PM

Yeppers!  Thanks Muffy!  Smoooooooth ride!   ::MonkeyBike::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 09, 2010, 07:37:20 PM

Yeppers!  Thanks Muffy!  Smoooooooth ride!   ::MonkeyBike::



YW Wyks.  I guess I'll have to start roll call or something in here.   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Wyks on August 09, 2010, 07:38:20 PM
Okay.  That's weird.  I can see Brandi and Wyks names up in the rafters, but I don't see trimmy, and I've not seen her name up there, yet she's posted.  Trimm, are you here?  I will have to report this glitch. 

Hmmm.. Her name is lit up green, but she's not showing in the rafters for me either.  Maybe she posted, then jammed to another thread real quick? 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 09, 2010, 07:38:37 PM
Brandi, thanks for posting those first pages. 

This gal is a piece of work.....but I did kinda get a kick outta her telling BOZO about the prison talk that he was messing around with Kc! ::MonkeyDevil::

She sure trashed the superintendents.....uummmmm I would think that might NOT  be a good idea! ::MonkeyTongue::

I am glad they redated info on her and/or Maya's family......I am sure both families have had more than enough to deal with!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Wyks on August 09, 2010, 07:39:17 PM

Yeppers!  Thanks Muffy!  Smoooooooth ride!   ::MonkeyBike::



YW Wyks.  I guess I'll have to start roll call or something in here.   ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::    ::monkeywine2::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Brandi on August 09, 2010, 07:40:22 PM
Brandi, thanks for posting those first pages. 

This gal is a piece of work.....but I did kinda get a kick outta her telling BOZO about the prison talk that he was messing around with Kc! ::MonkeyDevil::

She sure trashed the superintendents.....uummmmm I would think that might NOT  be a good idea! ::MonkeyTongue::

I am glad they redated info on her and/or Maya's family......I am sure both families have had more than enough to deal with!!

You're welcome.

I agree about the redacting and need for it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Wyks on August 09, 2010, 07:40:58 PM
Turbo~

Thanks so much!  Try this throw-away email addy:

xxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.com


(Edit to remove addy.  MuffyBee)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 09, 2010, 07:42:12 PM
Okay.  That's weird.  I can see Brandi and Wyks names up in the rafters, but I don't see trimmy, and I've not seen her name up there, yet she's posted.  Trimm, are you here?  I will have to report this glitch. 

Here!   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Wyks on August 09, 2010, 07:43:10 PM

Happy Birthday Caylee!!


~ ~ Always in our hearts ~ ~


(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Caylee/Caylee5.png)






Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 09, 2010, 07:43:21 PM

Turbo~

Thanks so much!  Try this throw-away email addy:

saraleemonk@gmail.com



I can edit out this email addy  when Turbo gets it if you like, Wyks.  Even though it's a throw away, you might end up spammed or whatever.  Just let me know.  Muffy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Wyks on August 09, 2010, 07:44:08 PM

Wow that pic came out huge.. sorry! 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 09, 2010, 07:44:22 PM
Okay.  That's weird.  I can see Brandi and Wyks names up in the rafters, but I don't see trimmy, and I've not seen her name up there, yet she's posted.  Trimm, are you here?  I will have to report this glitch. 

Here!   ::MonkeyJnBox::

There you are  ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 09, 2010, 07:44:46 PM

Wow that pic came out huge.. sorry! 



It looks just fine, imo.   ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: BooMonkey on August 09, 2010, 07:45:24 PM
Page 22:

Inmate Lunceford: But also _________ asked Maya, and apparently Maya told him that you were having a relationship with your client; a personal relationship....

BAEZ DIDN'T BLINK!! He didn't say Whaaat? What chu talk'n about Willis? Interesting!  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Wyks on August 09, 2010, 07:46:49 PM

ok Muffy, will do, thanks so much!   ::dogwag::





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 09, 2010, 07:47:04 PM
Page 22:

Inmate Lunceford: But also _________ asked Maya, and apparently Maya told him that you were having a relationship with your client; a personal relationship....

BAEZ DIDN'T BLINK!! He didn't say Whaaat? What chu talk'n about Willis? Interesting!  ::MonkeyGavel::

Yes, very interesting indeedy.     :2thinky:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on August 09, 2010, 07:48:09 PM
Justice for Caylee!     ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Wyks on August 09, 2010, 07:48:44 PM
Page 22:

Inmate Lunceford: But also _________ asked Maya, and apparently Maya told him that you were having a relationship with your client; a personal relationship....

BAEZ DIDN'T BLINK!! He didn't say Whaaat? What chu talk'n about Willis? Interesting!  ::MonkeyGavel::

I know, right??  Too funny!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyDevil:: 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Brandi on August 09, 2010, 07:49:32 PM

Wow that pic came out huge.. sorry! 



It's as big as when I made it LOL!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Wyks on August 09, 2010, 07:50:26 PM

Wow that pic came out huge.. sorry! 



It looks just fine, imo.   ::rhino::

Oh good, thanks!  She is such a beautiful lil angel. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 09, 2010, 07:50:50 PM

Wow that pic came out huge.. sorry! 



It looks just fine, imo.   ::rhino::

Oh good, thanks!  She is such a beautiful lil angel. 



 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Wyks on August 09, 2010, 07:52:16 PM

Wow that pic came out huge.. sorry! 



It's as big as when I made it LOL!


 ::MonkeyTongue::   ::MonkeyTongue:: 

Yeah, ya didn't sign it!!  Wanna grab it, sign it, post it, and I'll use that 'un next time? 

Ya just getting so famous now, your pics are everywhere!   ::MonkeyWink::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 09, 2010, 07:53:41 PM

Turbo~

Thanks so much!  Try this throw-away email addy:

saraleemonk@gmail.com



I can edit out this email addy  when Turbo gets it if you like, Wyks.  Even though it's a throw away, you might end up spammed or whatever.  Just let me know.  Muffy

got it...............I will put it together and send it to you


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Brandi on August 09, 2010, 07:53:59 PM

Wow that pic came out huge.. sorry! 



It's as big as when I made it LOL!


 ::MonkeyTongue::   ::MonkeyTongue:: 

Yeah, ya didn't sign it!!  Wanna grab it, sign it, post it, and I'll use that 'un next time? 

Ya just getting so famous now, your pics are everywhere!   ::MonkeyWink::



Naw, but it did look familiar, had to look it up and see if it was mine. It is. LOL



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on August 09, 2010, 07:54:02 PM
I hope it is ok to bring Brandi's post over from the last thread:

Baez's Jail Conversation With Inmate Released

http://www.wftv.com/news/24569117/detail.html

pdf= http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24568689/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 09, 2010, 07:55:51 PM

Wow that pic came out huge.. sorry! 



It's as big as when I made it LOL!


 ::MonkeyTongue::   ::MonkeyTongue:: 

Yeah, ya didn't sign it!!  Wanna grab it, sign it, post it, and I'll use that 'un next time? 

Ya just getting so famous now, your pics are everywhere!   ::MonkeyWink::



Naw, but it did look familiar, had to look it up and see if it was mine. It is. LOL



Nice work  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Wyks on August 09, 2010, 08:04:59 PM

ok Muffy, Turbo got the addy, if you wanna do your edit thang.  Thanks!   ::monkeywine2::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Wyks on August 09, 2010, 08:05:50 PM

got it...............I will put it together and send it to you

Thanks Turbo, I appreciate that!   ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 09, 2010, 08:06:13 PM

ok Muffy, Turbo got the addy, if you wanna do your edit thang.  Thanks!   ::monkeywine2::



It's done been done, Wyks.   :salut:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Wyks on August 09, 2010, 08:07:01 PM

Wow that pic came out huge.. sorry! 



It's as big as when I made it LOL!


 ::MonkeyTongue::   ::MonkeyTongue:: 

Yeah, ya didn't sign it!!  Wanna grab it, sign it, post it, and I'll use that 'un next time? 

Ya just getting so famous now, your pics are everywhere!   ::MonkeyWink::



Naw, but it did look familiar, had to look it up and see if it was mine. It is. LOL



Most of the pics I have are yours.  LOL   ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Wyks on August 09, 2010, 08:08:46 PM

ok Muffy, Turbo got the addy, if you wanna do your edit thang.  Thanks!   ::monkeywine2::



It's done been done, Wyks.   :salut:

Dang you're quick!  All better now.  Thanks again! 

Okies... back to Caylee again.   ::rhino::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Tevye on August 09, 2010, 08:16:50 PM
::MonkeyDance::   I see Brandi and Wyks have made it to the new thread!! ::MonkeySlide::

Brandi, I used the lovely artwork you created in honor of Caylee's Birthday in the next thread #169 OP.  By the time we start posting in thread 169, Caylee's birthday for this year will have come and gone, but she will still be remembered.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Okay.
Brandi, your "pink" pic of Caylee is beautiful! ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Wyks on August 09, 2010, 08:18:38 PM

Soooo.. with the A's....... First I read that they moved, almost lost their house, didn't lose it after all.  Did they move?  If so, did they move back in?  Can you imagine their poor neighbors?   ::MonkeyEek::


Also.. with Cindy...... Am hoping that she is NOT keeping in touch with her parents.  Those poor folks.  If I were them, or their caretakers, I'd be advising them to ignore the A's, pretend they didn't even exist.  Sigh.  Gotta wonder how much this is all affecting their health.  The poor dears. 

Kinda interesting, and telling, how the public hasn't heard much from Cindy's brothers and the rest of their family.  Yeah, I know in the beginning there was some from a few, especially Rick, but since then?  nada.  Good on them, I say.  Cuz gosh, who would want the A's as eeeeekkkkkk family?  I'd be crawling under the nearest rock. 



   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 09, 2010, 08:18:59 PM
I hope it is ok to bring Brandi's post over from the last thread:

Baez's Jail Conversation With Inmate Released

http://www.wftv.com/news/24569117/detail.html

pdf= http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24568689/detail.html


Thanks for thinking to do that Sassy!! ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 09, 2010, 08:42:08 PM
Bringing this over from the last thread


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-nejame-attacks-20100809,0,2800770.story

Casey Anthony case: New defense filing blasts Mark NeJame

Casey Anthony's defense team blasts prominent Orlando attorney Mark NeJame in a court filing submitted late Monday, alleging the Texas EquuSearch lawyer solicited the Anthony family, thwarted defense efforts and approached a "ghost writer" to collaborate on a book about the case.

NeJame and the Anthony defense team have fought over the release of records of Texas EquuSearch volunteers who took part in the search for 2-year-old Caylee Anthony early on in the case.

NeJame has accused the defense team of acting in "bad faith" in pursuing the records. Now, Anthony attorneys Jose Baez and J. Cheney Mason are fighting back with their own attacks.

The defense team said it "has recently discovered that Mr. NeJame approached a journalist by the name of David Lohr for the purpose of soliciting him to be a 'ghost writer for a book that he plans on writing about his [three] month experience being the lawyer for George and Cindy Anthony, and Texas EquuSearch," according to the filing.

"It is blatantly obvious that Mr. NeJame is using this case as more of an attempt to gain publicity than arguing legitimate issues," the pleading states. "The end result has been a complete and total obstruction of the defense's efforts to seek the truth and a waste of the Court's time and efforts"

NeJame has previously denied he is involved in a book deal on the case, but has said he might consider doing a book at some point in the future.

JMO...I find the motions have gotten nastier and more personally attacking since the BUFFOON joined BOZO  but again IMO neither are a mental match for Mark NeJame.......I expect to see some more sparks flying and when is JP gonna tell them enough is enough???  I am eager to see a good SMACK DOWN!!! ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Girlzrock on August 09, 2010, 08:42:43 PM
Page 22:

Inmate Lunceford: But also _________ asked Maya, and apparently Maya told him that you were having a relationship with your client; a personal relationship....

BAEZ DIDN'T BLINK!! He didn't say Whaaat? What chu talk'n about Willis? Interesting!  ::MonkeyGavel::

I know, right??  Too funny!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyDevil:: 




Could that part of the convo be much of the reason he fought to keep it from being released?  I wonder.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Curly on August 09, 2010, 08:56:39 PM
I just love that this Robin Lunceford has the BEST lawyer in Miami and where is she? Behind bars.
Bozo was bozod.

That motion against Mark NeJame is asinine. I hope he IS writing a book. Then we might actually hear the truth.

Was having difficulty posting. Every time I tried, I got timed out. I use safari if this has anything to do with the problem.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 09, 2010, 09:10:36 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-prison-transcripts-20100809,0,2371820.story
Transcript of inmate call to Casey Anthony attorney Jose Baez released
By Anthony Colarossi, Orlando Sentinel
8:24 p.m. EDT, August 9, 2010

State prison officials on Monday released the transcripts of phone calls to defense attorney Jose Baez from a state inmate who described a plan by fellow prisoners to make up lies about Baez's client, Casey Anthony.

The primary document details a phone conversation in May between Baez and Robin Lunceford, who is serving a life sentence in state prison.

Lunceford explains in the conversation that another inmate she knew in prison, Maya Derkovic, said she knew Anthony from time she spent at the Orange County Jail.

Anthony, 24, is awaiting trial in the death of her 2-year-old daughter, whose remains were found in December 2008.
Derkovic "started explaining how she was in jail with her [Casey Anthony], her and Robyn Adams and they were friends and blah-blah-blah and then out of nowhere she started creating a story," Lunceford tells Baez.

Lunceford said Derkovic asked her "What can I get out of this if I know about the murder…"

Responding, Lunceford said, "Well if you're a state witness you can get a lot. You can get a downward departure, you can get, you know, you can get a lot of things done."

Derkovic then told her, "I wonder if I don't know stuff and that I can, you know, just make stuff up," Lunceford said. "So anyway, the bottom line is we sit and created that she actually created the whole murder. Okay? She wrote letters to Robyn Adams…"

Lunceford then told Baez that she tried to discourage Derkovic from cooperating with a state attorney's investigator and fabricating the story "because you can't pass a polygraph case."

Some parts of the transcribed phone conversations provided Monday by the state Department of Corrections were blacked out. It was hard to tell who the inmate was referring to in some portions of the call.

Lunceford quoted Derkovic as saying that a prison official and someone else connected to the case did not care if she was lying.
"The case only had circumstantial evidence, he knew that and in order to get a death row conviction he needed something more and that this was just perfect," Lunceford told Baez. "Okay. So that he was willing to use her [Derkovic] and Robyn Adams."

Investigators learned that while together at the Orange County Jail, Adams and Anthony secretly wrote each other letters and had clandestine chats.

Baez had filed documents with the court to get his conversation with Lunceford sealed, arguing that the two calls she made – one in which she spoke to an assistant and the second in which she spoke directly to him – were illegal because he was unaware they were being recorded. He also indicated they represented attorney "work product"

Chief Judge Belvin Perry, however, denied that request. The transcripts of both calls indicate a recording was played at the start of both calls, indicating they were coming from a state prison and that they were subject to recording and monitoring.

The conversation between Baez and Lunceford ends with him telling her he was going to contact her attorney to get permission to visit her in prison.

Lunceford, 47, is sentenced to life in prison at the Lowell Annex facility north of Ocala for a robbery with a gun or deadly weapon conviction in Miami-Dade, according to online prison records.

Derkovic, 21, was transferred to Broward Correctional Institution, where she is serving a 30-year sentence for a 2007 second-degree murder conviction in Orange County.

Anthony Colarossi can be reached at acolarossi@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5447


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 09, 2010, 09:30:13 PM
Is it possible that Baez feared the release of his jail house conversation with  lunceford. Did he fear the public knowing that he played dr. With Casey? Perhaps Casey played kiss and tell!! Bragging that she did nasties with Baez!!
What a mess first you have Cindy bump and grinding with Dominic ! Than you have Georgie and Skye also humping and bumping. What a bunch of fornicators!! The prosecution has so much garbage to sort thru! Now Baez is at it again with yet another motion against nejame. Hope judge Perry blows a gasket! And tells him to stop his stupidity. This speaks volumes of his incompetness nanner nanner attitude!! But!! What about mason he should know better ! He too is begining to look like a looser!! This is begining to be gypsies tramps and thieves!! Someone else said. I hop nejame chews him up and spits him out! Baez so much like Cindy! Does not know how to zip it!!

Justice for caylee and happy 5th birthday!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 09, 2010, 09:32:32 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/08/baez-call-recorded.html
Monday, August 09, 2010
Baez Call Recorded



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 09, 2010, 09:38:20 PM
 ::MonkeyAngel::    ~  Happy 5th Birthday Caylee !!!!! ~


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 09, 2010, 09:43:33 PM
Page 22:

Inmate Lunceford: But also _________ asked Maya, and apparently Maya told him that you were having a relationship with your client; a personal relationship....

BAEZ DIDN'T BLINK!! He didn't say Whaaat? What chu talk'n about Willis? Interesting!  ::MonkeyGavel::

I know, right??  Too funny!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyDevil:: 




Could that part of the convo be much of the reason he fought to keep it from being released?  I wonder.

Could be ... He didn't seem to even blink an eye but went right on talking ...lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Wyks on August 09, 2010, 09:54:28 PM
Page 22:

Inmate Lunceford: But also _________ asked Maya, and apparently Maya told him that you were having a relationship with your client; a personal relationship....

BAEZ DIDN'T BLINK!! He didn't say Whaaat? What chu talk'n about Willis? Interesting!  ::MonkeyGavel::

I know, right??  Too funny!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyDevil:: 


Could that part of the convo be much of the reason he fought to keep it from being released?  I wonder.

Ha!!  Am betting so, Girlzrock!   ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 09, 2010, 11:08:06 PM
SunnyinTx said.....http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-nejame-attacks-20100809,0,2800770.story

Casey Anthony case: New defense filing blasts Mark NeJame

Casey Anthony's defense team blasts prominent Orlando attorney Mark NeJame in a court filing submitted late Monday, alleging the Texas EquuSearch lawyer solicited the Anthony family, thwarted defense efforts and approached a "ghost writer" to collaborate on a book about the case.

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Mark NeJame represented George and Cindy Anthony from Sept. 4 and here is where he resigned and what he said.

"I won't comment about what they did or didn't do. All I will say is that I need to be in control of my clients. I need to be in control of my cases," NeJame said.

NeJame released a statement about his decision:

"Unfortunately, I have made the decision that it is best not to continue my representation of George and Cindy Anthony.

"George and Cindy have a belief that their beloved granddaughter, Caylee, is still alive. Tips and leads continue to come in. I believe strongly that they should have every right to maintain their hope and faith that one of these "sightings" will miraculously be the one that brings Caylee home to them. What parent or grandparent would surrender such hope?

"Who is one person to tell another parent or grandparent when it is time for them to abandon their faith? When does a stranger have the right to judge another who has endured such a loss? The attacks made against them by some are deplorable.

"Let them be to do what they feel they must to find their beloved granddaughter, Caylee. Knowing this case as well as probably anyone on earth, there is no doubt that they do not know where Caylee is. Allow them to walk their own path.

"I only agreed to represent George and Cindy Anthony, so long as there were no restrictions placed on me whatsoever as to finding Caylee, regardless of where this might lead. Quite simply, this meant that I could do whatever I needed to find Caylee whether she was alive or not. It impressed me that George and Cindy, both believing that Caylee was still with us, had an overriding and primary concern in finding Caylee, even if the result was not as they would hope. The other condition I required was that I would have absolutely nothing to do with representing Casey or assisting in her legal defense.

"Abundant efforts have been made towards finding Caylee. I have worked with so many involved in this matter towards the goal of finding this dear, missing child who has captured the hearts of so many. Some ignorant and judgmental members of the public though have made hateful and inaccurate accusations against me and others, when they had no idea whatsoever what was really going on. As my new, good friend, Tim Miller from Equusearch, tells me 'everybody associated with this case gets body slammed.' However, like Tim, when you know in your heart that you're doing the right thing, you just move forward knowing that right will ultimately win out. Some have falsely accused me and some others of being in this for the money. If they only knew how utterly wrong and misguided they are.

"I had come to a personal opinion and theory for quite some time whether Caylee was still with us or not. However, my opinion was only one like any other … an opinion. The only person without an opinion though is Casey Anthony as only she knows the truth.

"I believe that the singular person out of the 6 billion people in the world who holds the key to finding Caylee is her mother, Casey Anthony. Although I was quite successful in resolving a multitude of matters, I am unable to go further to help George and Cindy find Caylee in my current role. I can only provide my best advice and must respect any client's prerogative to do what they deem is best, whether they choose to follow my guidance or not. However, there is little value or use I can provide to any client if they choose to act and comment at will.

"As someone who has learned and knows the inner workings and details of the case and its various characters intimately, the rampant sensationalism and unfounded accusations must stop. Allow Cindy and George Anthony the respect and decency of dealing with their hope and efforts to find their missing and beloved Caylee as they need to. Allow those with differing opinions on finding and searching for Caylee, whether she is with us or not, to do their jobs without interruption. Finally, the judicial system is in play and justice will be best served by mindless meddlers staying out of something they know little of. There are many wonderful people involved in efforts to find Caylee and there are, unfortunately, many who are exploiting this child. Sadly, most in the public are clueless about who is doing what and what is really going on. The negative actions of some are only counterproductive and hurtful to the cause of those many good people who are doing so much to do something positive with this most sad and tragic situation.
"There should only be one goal and that is to find Caylee Marie Anthony."

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18025611/detail.html


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Post by: Blumonkey on August 09, 2010, 11:43:50 PM
Since it is still Caylee's Birthday, I wanted to post this again.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Caylee-5.png)


Love this, Brandi ! Thank you for this beautiful picture of our Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Love2Read on August 10, 2010, 12:29:57 AM
I want to thank you for that picture too, Brandi.  That is one of the most adorable pics of her, and one of my favorites.

God Bless Caylee ::MonkeyAngel:: and all her Monkey friends :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 01:17:48 AM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 01:25:42 AM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf

I hit send too fast...........I also meant to add SMACKDOWN CINDY by NeJames........what a letter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Brandi on August 10, 2010, 01:43:40 AM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf

I hit send too fast...........I also meant to add SMACKDOWN CINDY by NeJames........what a letter.

That letter was the best I have read in many moons.

Excellent.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 02:04:43 AM
While researching something else I ran upon Mason's TV appearance saying that KC would end up with a minimum of life regardless. He also slammed Cindy and George.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWb_ZztZOKM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on August 10, 2010, 08:09:09 AM
Hey, Monkeys!  I'm on Jury Duty this week, (and I can't wait until Thursday or Friday, when I can tell you all what the case was about!  It's a civil matter, and I wished I could have shared a monkey giggle with all of you.)   ::MonkeyGavel::

That was some letter that Mark Nejame wrote.  I'm not sure I understand the Beth Karas connection.  Did she get the letter from Baez or what?  I've got a little time today to go back and read up on what's been going on.
Thank you all for the updates, and the beautiful remembrances of Caylee on her birthday.
Have a great day...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 08:16:34 AM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf

Good Morning Monks!!  Great catch Turbo. If I had to bet I'd bet it is PB.  Doncha just love Mark NeJame!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 10, 2010, 08:19:21 AM
Thanks Turbo for bringing Mark's brilliant letter to our attention-I had not seen it.  He really sums it all up beautifully,it seems to me. 
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 08:32:03 AM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf

I hit send too fast...........I also meant to add SMACKDOWN CINDY by NeJames........what a letter.

It was also very revealing ....Jim Lichenstein for one....I still want to know what his stake is in this??....I would BET the A's have signed an agreement with him for a movie or documentary.....$$$$$$$$$  - could this be the anticipate income referred to in the new mortgage papers??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on August 10, 2010, 08:33:19 AM
You all probably went over this already, but I'm just reading the defense response to the "bad faith" motion by Mr. Nejame, and look...
While this does not necessarily mean that the Defendant was in no way involved in the death ofthe child (by whatever manner and means), it certainly raises a substantial reasonable doubt as to her culpability.
Even her own defense thinks she's guilty.  With friends like these....Casey's got a one way gurney ride to hell.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 10, 2010, 08:34:01 AM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Baez's conversation With Inmate Released
08/09/10


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 08:35:58 AM
While researching something else I ran upon Mason's TV appearance saying that KC would end up with a minimum of life regardless. He also slammed Cindy and George.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWb_ZztZOKM

thanks Turbo....I can't stand this azz! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 10, 2010, 08:36:00 AM
http://www.wesh.com/r/24574848/detail.html
Baez Jail Phone Call Transcripts Released
Transcripts Released Of Call From Inmate Robin Lunceford

POSTED: 6:15 am EDT August 10, 2010
UPDATED: 6:57 am EDT August 10, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- It's a recorded phone call that Casey Anthony's attorney Jose Baez wanted to keep under wraps.

But prison officials on Monday released transcripts of phone calls placed between Baez and an inmate identified as Robin Lunceford.
Casey Anthony Facebook Updates story teaser

According to the Orlando Sentinel, the main document details a phone conversation in May between Baez and Lunceford.

Lunceford explained in the conversation that another inmate she knew in prison, Maya Derkovic, wanted to create lies about the disappearance of Caylee Anthony.

In the call, the Sentinel report indicated Lunceford told Baez that Derkovic asked her, "What can I get out of this if I know about the murder?"

"If you're a state witness, you can get a lot. You can get a downward departure. You can get a lot of things done," Lunceford replied.

Derkovic then told said, "I wonder if I don't know stuff, and that I can, you know, just make stuff up."

Lunceford then told Baez, "So, anyway, the bottom line is we sit and created that she actually created the whole murder."

Judge Belvin Perry denied Baez's request to keep the transcripts sealed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on August 10, 2010, 08:38:21 AM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf
Thanks, Turbo.  I believe it's PB, also.  It would explain much about the A's being teflon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 08:39:59 AM
Hey, Monkeys!  I'm on Jury Duty this week, (and I can't wait until Thursday or Friday, when I can tell you all what the case was about!  It's a civil matter, and I wished I could have shared a monkey giggle with all of you.)   ::MonkeyGavel::

That was some letter that Mark Nejame wrote.  I'm not sure I understand the Beth Karas connection.  Did she get the letter from Baez or what?  I've got a little time today to go back and read up on what's been going on.
Thank you all for the updates, and the beautiful remembrances of Caylee on her birthday.
Have a great day...

hi Monka!  you have a good day and I am eager to share your giggles!! I don't know the Beth Karas connection??  .....but I sure wish the original letter that Mark was addressing was included in this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on August 10, 2010, 08:40:21 AM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf

I hit send too fast...........I also meant to add SMACKDOWN CINDY by NeJames........what a letter.

It was also very revealing ....Jim Lichenstein for one....I still want to know what his stake is in this??....I would BET the A's have signed an agreement with him for a movie or documentary.....$$$$$$$$$  - could this be the anticipate income referred to in the new mortgage papers??
Are the new mortgage papers available to read?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 10, 2010, 08:41:32 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/134775/Casey%E2%80%99s-defense-attacks-NeJame,-EquuSearch
Casey’s defense attacks NeJame, EquuSearch
By Adam Longo, Reporter
Last Updated: Monday, August 09, 2010 10:26 PM
 ORLANDO --

Casey Anthony's defense team is ripping into a local attorney who represents the Texas EquuSearch organization.

News 13 told you last month when attorney Mark NeJame filed a motion accusing Anthony's defense of acting in "bad faith" in trying to access information about volunteers with the group.
   
Late Monday afternoon, Anthony’s lawyers blasted NeJame in a newly filed court motion.

Among other things, they accuse him of trying to convince Anthony's parents to fire attorney Jose Baez and retain him as Anthony's attorney.

They also said he is using the case simply to gain publicity.

Also, a private investigator, who is part of Baez’s defense team, recently interviewed a New York City writer.

He claims NeJame approached him about writing a book detailing his involvement with the case.

In that discussion, details came out about an alleged plea offer for Anthony that she was supposedly offered a 10-year sentence if she led investigators to where her daughter Caylee was.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on August 10, 2010, 08:41:53 AM
Hey, Monkeys!  I'm on Jury Duty this week, (and I can't wait until Thursday or Friday, when I can tell you all what the case was about!  It's a civil matter, and I wished I could have shared a monkey giggle with all of you.)   ::MonkeyGavel::

That was some letter that Mark Nejame wrote.  I'm not sure I understand the Beth Karas connection.  Did she get the letter from Baez or what?  I've got a little time today to go back and read up on what's been going on.
Thank you all for the updates, and the beautiful remembrances of Caylee on her birthday.
Have a great day...

hi Monka!  you have a good day and I am eager to share your giggles!! I don't know the Beth Karas connection??  .....but I sure wish the original letter that Mark was addressing was included in this.
Hi, Sunny!  I'd love to see that letter too!  Gotta run and do my civic duty.  See you all later!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 08:58:37 AM
hat tip Nums 24@ WS


2010.08.09 - Defense Response to Motion to Quash Court's Order RE TES

RESPONSE: http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic...ourtsOrder.pdf

Exhibit A: http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic...9_ExhibitA.pdf

Exhibit B: http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic...9_ExhibitB.pdf

Exhibit C: http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic...9_ExhibitC.pdf

Exhibit D: http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic...9_ExhibitD.pdf

Grab a barf bucket!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 08:59:26 AM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf

I hit send too fast...........I also meant to add SMACKDOWN CINDY by NeJames........what a letter.

It was also very revealing ....Jim Lichenstein for one....I still want to know what his stake is in this??....I would BET the A's have signed an agreement with him for a movie or documentary.....$$$$$$$$$  - could this be the anticipate income referred to in the new mortgage papers??
Are the new mortgage papers available to read?

Not to my knowledge....I have been looking but haven't found any yet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 10, 2010, 08:59:58 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/134775/Casey%E2%80%99s-defense-attacks-NeJame,-EquuSearch

Response To Motion To Quash The Court's Order  http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ResponseToMotionToQuashTheCourtsOrder.pdf

Exhibit A   http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitA.pdf

Exhibit B  http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitB.pdf

Exhibit C  http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf

Exhibit D  http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitD.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 09:01:49 AM
hat tip Nums 24@ WS


2010.08.09 - Defense Response to Motion to Quash Court's Order RE TES

RESPONSE: http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic...ourtsOrder.pdf

Exhibit A: http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic...9_ExhibitA.pdf

Exhibit B: http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic...9_ExhibitB.pdf

Exhibit C: http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic...9_ExhibitC.pdf

Exhibit D: http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic...9_ExhibitD.pdf

Grab a barf bucket!!

crap these don't work....let me do them separately


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 09:05:15 AM
hat tip Nums 24@ WS


2010.08.09 - Defense Response to Motion to Quash Court's Order RE TES

RESPONSE: http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic...ourtsOrder.pdf

Exhibit A: http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic...9_ExhibitA.pdf

Exhibit B: http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic...9_ExhibitB.pdf

Exhibit C: http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic...9_ExhibitC.pdf

Exhibit D: http://www.cfnews13.com/static/artic...9_ExhibitD.pdf

Grab a barf bucket!!

crap these don't work....let me do them separately

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ResponseToMotionToQuashTheCourtsOrder.pdf

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitA.pdf

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitB.pdf

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitD.pdf



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 09:10:40 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/134775/Casey%E2%80%99s-defense-attacks-NeJame,-EquuSearch

Response To Motion To Quash The Court's Order  http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ResponseToMotionToQuashTheCourtsOrder.pdf

Exhibit A   http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitA.pdf

Exhibit B  http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitB.pdf

Exhibit C  http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf

Exhibit D  http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitD.pdf


ROTFLMAO....You are just the BESTEST of the BEST!! ::MonkeyHeart::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 09:29:56 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/134775/Casey%E2%80%99s-defense-attacks-NeJame,-EquuSearch
Casey’s defense attacks NeJame, EquuSearch
By Adam Longo, Reporter
Last Updated: Monday, August 09, 2010 10:26 PM
 ORLANDO --

Casey Anthony's defense team is ripping into a local attorney who represents the Texas EquuSearch organization.

News 13 told you last month when attorney Mark NeJame filed a motion accusing Anthony's defense of acting in "bad faith" in trying to access information about volunteers with the group.
   
Late Monday afternoon, Anthony’s lawyers blasted NeJame in a newly filed court motion.

Among other things, they accuse him of trying to convince Anthony's parents to fire attorney Jose Baez and retain him as Anthony's attorney.

They also said he is using the case simply to gain publicity.

Also, a private investigator, who is part of Baez’s defense team, recently interviewed a New York City writer.

He claims NeJame approached him about writing a book detailing his involvement with the case.

In that discussion, details came out about an alleged plea offer for Anthony that she was supposedly offered a 10-year sentence if she led investigators to where her daughter Caylee was.


I hope Mark does write a book....the A's signed a waiver and he is free to release any information or discussion they had.....PLEASE MARK WRITE THE DAMN BOOK!

If there was a plea offered for 10 years what fools for not taking it.....she will have plenty of time to think about while she sits in a jail cell for the rest of her stinking life.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 10, 2010, 09:39:29 AM
This is America everyone is free to write a book, what does this matter? I'm sure there will be books galore coming from the defense side.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 10, 2010, 10:03:58 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/134775/Casey%E2%80%99s-defense-attacks-NeJame,-EquuSearch

Response To Motion To Quash The Court's Order  http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ResponseToMotionToQuashTheCourtsOrder.pdf

Exhibit A   http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitA.pdf

Exhibit B  http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitB.pdf

Exhibit C  http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf

Exhibit D  http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitD.pdf


ROTFLMAO....You are just the BESTEST of the BEST!! ::MonkeyHeart::
Good morning Sunny!   ::MonkeyGavel::
I've been up half the night with a sick doxie.I can hardly read what I am posting.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Green Eyes on August 10, 2010, 10:04:40 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/134775/Casey%E2%80%99s-defense-attacks-NeJame,-EquuSearch
Casey’s defense attacks NeJame, EquuSearch
By Adam Longo, Reporter
Last Updated: Monday, August 09, 2010 10:26 PM
 ORLANDO --

Casey Anthony's defense team is ripping into a local attorney who represents the Texas EquuSearch organization.

News 13 told you last month when attorney Mark NeJame filed a motion accusing Anthony's defense of acting in "bad faith" in trying to access information about volunteers with the group.
   
Late Monday afternoon, Anthony’s lawyers blasted NeJame in a newly filed court motion.

Among other things, they accuse him of trying to convince Anthony's parents to fire attorney Jose Baez and retain him as Anthony's attorney.

They also said he is using the case simply to gain publicity.
Also, a private investigator, who is part of Baez’s defense team, recently interviewed a New York City writer.

He claims NeJame approached him about writing a book detailing his involvement with the case.

In that discussion, details came out about an alleged plea offer for Anthony that she was supposedly offered a 10-year sentence if she led investigators to where her daughter Caylee was.


This is to funny as my granny use to say " Isn't that the kettle calling the pot black"  What have they done beisdes trying to gain publicity from very the get go.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: O4Bull on August 10, 2010, 10:05:47 AM
David Lohr sounds like a bitter bore.  Mark Nejame dumped him, cause he likes Tim more.
The Anthonys cry foul, and defend their whore.

(I'm auditioning for Nancy Grace, in case that rhyming analyst hits it big and moves on)  ::MonkeyDevil::

Mark wants to write the book and donate a good percentage to TES.  David Lohr didn't get the job because he doesn't like Tim Miller.  The Anthonys don't want anyone but them to make any money off the back of their dead granddaughter.  Pathetic, this makes Mark look better, not worse.  Anthonys, you FAIL.  again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 10, 2010, 10:06:13 AM
This is America everyone is free to write a book, what does this matter? I'm sure there will be books galore coming from the defense side.

I want to read a book about the truth.Think they can handle that?  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: O4Bull on August 10, 2010, 10:07:28 AM
This is America everyone is free to write a book, what does this matter? I'm sure there will be books galore coming from the defense side.

I want to read a book about the truth.Think they can handle that?  ::MonkeyCool::
If the Anthonys are in the book, the truth you will be reading is about their lies.  ::MonkeyHaHa::  Bring it on, Mark!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: tupelohoney on August 10, 2010, 10:09:35 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/134775/Casey%E2%80%99s-defense-attacks-NeJame,-EquuSearch
Casey’s defense attacks NeJame, EquuSearch
By Adam Longo, Reporter
Last Updated: Monday, August 09, 2010 10:26 PM
 ORLANDO --

Casey Anthony's defense team is ripping into a local attorney who represents the Texas EquuSearch organization.

News 13 told you last month when attorney Mark NeJame filed a motion accusing Anthony's defense of acting in "bad faith" in trying to access information about volunteers with the group.
   
Late Monday afternoon, Anthony’s lawyers blasted NeJame in a newly filed court motion.

Among other things, they accuse him of trying to convince Anthony's parents to fire attorney Jose Baez and retain him as Anthony's attorney.

They also said he is using the case simply to gain publicity.

Also, a private investigator, who is part of Baez’s defense team, recently interviewed a New York City writer.

He claims NeJame approached him about writing a book detailing his involvement with the case.

In that discussion, details came out about an alleged plea offer for Anthony that she was supposedly offered a 10-year sentence if she led investigators to where her daughter Caylee was.

BBM.... ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::  I wonder if this happened the day she was arrested for murder.  Sure looked as if she was going to agree, but needed to talk to Baez first, he came in and squashed it.   Now, Life will be the best Casey can get....which IMO, is too good for her. She will adapt with no problems whatsoever and go about life without a care in the world.  I would like to see her get the DP, just so she will be isolated from all inmates, no tv, no nothing.  She'd be there for years upon years riding out her appeals. Even if she gets an appeal, sitting on death row would be a real punishment for her. 

Gotta love MNJ.....I hope he does write a book!  And I hope his is published first!  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 10:12:37 AM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf
Thanks, Turbo.  I believe it's PB, also.  It would explain much about the A's being teflon.


It would also explain why after last year things started to go downhill for them and no money, since he was arrested. I have been trying to find the connection and I believe it is Mallory. I think she worked for him, but don't have it all together yet.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 10:15:03 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/134775/Casey%E2%80%99s-defense-attacks-NeJame,-EquuSearch

Response To Motion To Quash The Court's Order  http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ResponseToMotionToQuashTheCourtsOrder.pdf

Exhibit A   http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitA.pdf

Exhibit B  http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitB.pdf

Exhibit C  http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf

Exhibit D  http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitD.pdf


ROTFLMAO....You are just the BESTEST of the BEST!! ::MonkeyHeart::
Good morning Sunny!   ::MonkeyGavel::
I've been up half the night with a sick doxie.I can hardly read what I am posting.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I hope your doxie is better this morning???  I had a sick dog for nearly 2 weeks...I know what you mean.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 10:17:05 AM
You all probably went over this already, but I'm just reading the defense response to the "bad faith" motion by Mr. Nejame, and look...
While this does not necessarily mean that the Defendant was in no way involved in the death ofthe child (by whatever manner and means), it certainly raises a substantial reasonable doubt as to her culpability.
Even her own defense thinks she's guilty.  With friends like these....Casey's got a one way gurney ride to hell.

When I read this I thought....oh yes, they are going to go for 'it was an accident and she panicked...scared of her Mom thing again.' ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 10:18:31 AM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf
Thanks, Turbo.  I believe it's PB, also.  It would explain much about the A's being teflon.


Good thinking Monka....but his azz is in jail now...so perhaps his long reach is now shortened!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 10:19:09 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/134775/Casey%E2%80%99s-defense-attacks-NeJame,-EquuSearch
Casey’s defense attacks NeJame, EquuSearch
By Adam Longo, Reporter
Last Updated: Monday, August 09, 2010 10:26 PM
 ORLANDO --

Casey Anthony's defense team is ripping into a local attorney who represents the Texas EquuSearch organization.

News 13 told you last month when attorney Mark NeJame filed a motion accusing Anthony's defense of acting in "bad faith" in trying to access information about volunteers with the group.
    
Late Monday afternoon, Anthony’s lawyers blasted NeJame in a newly filed court motion.

Among other things, they accuse him of trying to convince Anthony's parents to fire attorney Jose Baez and retain him as Anthony's attorney.

They also said he is using the case simply to gain publicity.

Also, a private investigator, who is part of Baez’s defense team, recently interviewed a New York City writer.

He claims NeJame approached him about writing a book detailing his involvement with the case.

In that discussion, details came out about an alleged plea offer for Anthony that she was supposedly offered a 10-year sentence if she led investigators to where her daughter Caylee was.


WOW..........my guess was right on the money about a plea bargain before the body was found. I missed the 10 years though as I was guessing 15 and with "good time" she would have been out in about 8. With the 10 years she would have been out in about 5 1/2. Bozo really screwed her in more ways than one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 10:19:47 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/134775/Casey%E2%80%99s-defense-attacks-NeJame,-EquuSearch
Casey’s defense attacks NeJame, EquuSearch
By Adam Longo, Reporter
Last Updated: Monday, August 09, 2010 10:26 PM
 ORLANDO --

Casey Anthony's defense team is ripping into a local attorney who represents the Texas EquuSearch organization.

News 13 told you last month when attorney Mark NeJame filed a motion accusing Anthony's defense of acting in "bad faith" in trying to access information about volunteers with the group.
   
Late Monday afternoon, Anthony’s lawyers blasted NeJame in a newly filed court motion.

Among other things, they accuse him of trying to convince Anthony's parents to fire attorney Jose Baez and retain him as Anthony's attorney.

They also said he is using the case simply to gain publicity.
Also, a private investigator, who is part of Baez’s defense team, recently interviewed a New York City writer.

He claims NeJame approached him about writing a book detailing his involvement with the case.

In that discussion, details came out about an alleged plea offer for Anthony that she was supposedly offered a 10-year sentence if she led investigators to where her daughter Caylee was.


This is to funny as my granny use to say " Isn't that the kettle calling the pot black"  What have they done beisdes trying to gain publicity from very the get go.

Morning Green Eyes...yeppers for sure...media whores from the get go


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 10:20:52 AM
David Lohr sounds like a bitter bore.  Mark Nejame dumped him, cause he likes Tim more.
The Anthonys cry foul, and defend their whore.

(I'm auditioning for Nancy Grace, in case that rhyming analyst hits it big and moves on)  ::MonkeyDevil::

Mark wants to write the book and donate a good percentage to TES.  David Lohr didn't get the job because he doesn't like Tim Miller.  The Anthonys don't want anyone but them to make any money off the back of their dead granddaughter.  Pathetic, this makes Mark look better, not worse.  Anthonys, you FAIL.  again.


 ::rhino:: ::rhino:: ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 10:22:33 AM
This is America everyone is free to write a book, what does this matter? I'm sure there will be books galore coming from the defense side.

I want to read a book about the truth.Think they can handle that?  ::MonkeyCool::

the A's????  truth??? no way could they handle it....but they are going to be smacked in the face with it if this case goes to trial....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: O4Bull on August 10, 2010, 10:26:32 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/134775/Casey%E2%80%99s-defense-attacks-NeJame,-EquuSearch
Casey’s defense attacks NeJame, EquuSearch
By Adam Longo, Reporter
Last Updated: Monday, August 09, 2010 10:26 PM
 ORLANDO --

Casey Anthony's defense team is ripping into a local attorney who represents the Texas EquuSearch organization.

News 13 told you last month when attorney Mark NeJame filed a motion accusing Anthony's defense of acting in "bad faith" in trying to access information about volunteers with the group.
    
Late Monday afternoon, Anthony’s lawyers blasted NeJame in a newly filed court motion.

Among other things, they accuse him of trying to convince Anthony's parents to fire attorney Jose Baez and retain him as Anthony's attorney.

They also said he is using the case simply to gain publicity.

Also, a private investigator, who is part of Baez’s defense team, recently interviewed a New York City writer.

He claims NeJame approached him about writing a book detailing his involvement with the case.

In that discussion, details came out about an alleged plea offer for Anthony that she was supposedly offered a 10-year sentence if she led investigators to where her daughter Caylee was.


WOW..........my guess was right on the money about a plea bargain before the body was found. I missed the 10 years though as I was guessing 15 and with "good time" she would have been out in about 8. With the 10 years she would have been out in about 5 1/2. Bozo really screwed her in more ways than one.
I'm kinda feeling sorry for kc.
Oh, come on!  You know I'm lyin'.  ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::   It's called K A R M A, and she's come a callin' on all the anthonys.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: O4Bull on August 10, 2010, 10:27:56 AM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf
Thanks, Turbo.  I believe it's PB, also.  It would explain much about the A's being teflon.


It would also explain why after last year things started to go downhill for them and no money, since he was arrested. I have been trying to find the connection and I believe it is Mallory. I think she worked for him, but don't have it all together yet.
I can't wait to see what you find, Turbo.   ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 10:29:52 AM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf

I hit send too fast...........I also meant to add SMACKDOWN CINDY by NeJames........what a letter.

It was also very revealing ....Jim Lichenstein for one....I still want to know what his stake is in this??....I would BET the A's have signed an agreement with him for a movie or documentary.....$$$$$$$$$  - could this be the anticipate income referred to in the new mortgage papers??
Are the new mortgage papers available to read?

Not to my knowledge....I have been looking but haven't found any yet

I doubt there would be any new mortgage papers. Usually they just modify the existing mortgage leaving the original Trust Deed intact. What they do most times is add the amount in arrears to the end of the loan with additional principal to catch it up on the payment and the mortgage continues as originally secured.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 10:33:26 AM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf
Thanks, Turbo.  I believe it's PB, also.  It would explain much about the A's being teflon.


It would also explain why after last year things started to go downhill for them and no money, since he was arrested. I have been trying to find the connection and I believe it is Mallory. I think she worked for him, but don't have it all together yet.

BINGO!!  I think you are right about the money and I will be interested in what you find out about the connection. May I ask why you think it is Mallory?? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 10:34:04 AM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf

I hit send too fast...........I also meant to add SMACKDOWN CINDY by NeJames........what a letter.

It was also very revealing ....Jim Lichenstein for one....I still want to know what his stake is in this??....I would BET the A's have signed an agreement with him for a movie or documentary.....$$$$$$$$$  - could this be the anticipate income referred to in the new mortgage papers??
Are the new mortgage papers available to read?

Not to my knowledge....I have been looking but haven't found any yet

I doubt there would be any new mortgage papers. Usually they just modify the existing mortgage leaving the original Trust Deed intact. What they do most times is add the amount in arrears to the end of the loan with additional principal to catch it up on the payment and the mortgage continues as originally secured.

thanks....then I will stop looking..... ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 10:36:29 AM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf
Thanks, Turbo.  I believe it's PB, also.  It would explain much about the A's being teflon.


It would also explain why after last year things started to go downhill for them and no money, since he was arrested. I have been trying to find the connection and I believe it is Mallory. I think she worked for him, but don't have it all together yet.
I can't wait to see what you find, Turbo.   ::rhino::

I will post the connection next but I thought you might want to read this.

entral Florida pair victimized thousands around the world, federal officials say
February 13, 2010|By Amy L. Edwards, Orlando Sentinel
Hundreds of gold bars. Luxury cars. And cold, hard cash.
These were the spoils, federal officials say, of what appeared to be successful ventures involving Pedro Benevides and Daniel Fernandez Rojo Filho.
Between them, the Central Florida associates ran or were part of a series of area businesses -- investment, real estate, aviation, car rental. What they really did, federal officials say, was participate in a Ponzi scheme that victimized thousands of people across the globe.
  
And, federal investigators say, the seized assets are part and parcel of a case that is just one example of an increased number of probes into suspected investment scams, taxing investigators and loading up cases for prosecutors of white-collar crimes.
"We are continuing to see a rise in Ponzi schemes, no doubt about it," said Dave Nanz, chief of the Economic Crimes Unit for the FBI in Washington.
In Florida, the Attorney General's Office has seen a nearly 175 percent increase in the number of investment-fraud-related complaints in the past five years.
And Friday, another case escalated. Grand-Am race-car driver Henri Zogaib of Longwood was arrested on one count of organized fraud.
Investigators said Zogaib, 36, stole about $5.1 million from 19 people who invested in his company, Executive Investment Group, by promising large returns on their money. They said he never invested the money but took it for his own use.
He was booked into the Lake County Jail on Friday with bail set at $100,000.
Ponzi schemes -- or similar scams -- have existed for decades. The name of the fraud itself is derived from Charles Ponzi, who in the 1920s tricked thousands of New England residents into investing in a postage-stamp-speculation scheme. He promised investors a 50 percent return in 90 days at a time when banks were giving 5 percent to account holders.
Ponzi used money from new investors to pay early investors their "profits."
Today's Ponzis are similar.
"The promoter is generally very charismatic and has some real-life experience with some type of legitimate investment product," said Internal Revenue Service Special Agent Norm Meadows.
When investors want to pull their money out, Ponzi schemes collapse. And a lingering downturn in the U.S. economy explains why federal investigators see their case files stacking up.
(Page 2 of 3)
"Bad economic conditions basically make the Ponzi scheme impossible to maintain," said David P. Leibowitz, an attorney and board member of the National Association of Bankruptcy Trustees. "These Ponzi schemes have happened already. The Ponzi schemers have schemed. What we're seeing now is the backwash of what was happening in 2007 and 2008."
Benevides, 40, of Lake County and Filho, 42, of Orange County lived in style. And they appear to have been generous with their money: Filho bought his maid a Chevrolet Equinox, court documents say, which was also seized by the feds.
Court documents said Benevides and Filho participated in the operation of a company called Evolution Market Group.
From December 2007 to March 2009, Evolution Market Group -- doing business as Finanzas Forex -- operated several Web sites that boasted of short-term investments that yielded 77 percent to 300 percent returns, court documents show.
Evolution Market Group falsely represented on the Web that all funds would be invested in a European brokerage firm that specialized in buying and selling foreign currency, documents show.
Instead, prosecutors say, the company used most of the money to partially pay back early investors and to "reward" promoters of the company with money, luxury cars and housing allowances.
Benevides also tried to help Florida Gov. Charlie Crist. Benevides' company, Skyview Aviation, flew Crist to California for a climate summit with Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Benevides asked for the trip to be considered an in-kind gift to Crist, but the Republican Party of Florida rejected the donation and reimbursed Skyview $39,000 for the flight.
When the feds started snatching up assets linked to the suspected Ponzi last year, they took a $430,000 Lamborghini Murciélago and a $207,000 Audi R8 registered to Skyview Aviation. They also took 294 gold bars converted from money linked to investors, records show, and about $1 million in cash.
Neither Benevides nor Filho has been charged criminally.
Benevides is being held in federal custody in North Florida for immigration issues.
(THIS TELLS ME HE IS CONNECTED POLITCALLY MUCH HIGHER UP)
His attorney, Todd Foster, said Benevides will fight any allegation that he's involved in criminal conduct.
"There's a long way between an allegation and proof," Foster said. "He maintains that he's done nothing wrong here."
Attempts to reach Filho were unsuccessful. A South Florida attorney representing Filho in a civil case would not comment.
It seems their wealth may have driven Benevides and Filho apart.
A U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration agent testified during a bond hearing in Orlando last fall that Benevides asked someone to kidnap Filho's 10-year-old son until Filho paid off a $30 million debt owed to him.
For investigators, such tales may be just the start for 2010 and beyond.
The FBI's load of Ponzi investigations and other high-yield investment-fraud cases increased by more than 100 percent nationwide last year, an agency official testified before Congress in December.
In Central Florida, IRS agents are also working other Ponzi investigations, Meadows said.
In October, an Orlando federal judge granted a request to freeze the assets of Apopka resident David Merrick and his entities, accused of raising at least $22 million from at least 2,500 people in a suspected Ponzi scheme.
One of the largest Ponzi cases in the state was orchestrated by disgraced music mogul Lou Pearlman. The founder of the Backstreet Boys and 'N Sync was sentenced to 25 years in prison in Orlando federal court in 2008.
Amy L. Edwards can be reached at aledwards@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5735.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 10, 2010, 10:40:41 AM
This is America everyone is free to write a book, what does this matter? I'm sure there will be books galore coming from the defense side.

I want to read a book about the truth.Think they can handle that?  ::MonkeyCool::
No, but it seems like everybody and there brother writes books nowadays.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 10:40:55 AM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf
Thanks, Turbo.  I believe it's PB, also.  It would explain much about the A's being teflon.


It would also explain why after last year things started to go downhill for them and no money, since he was arrested. I have been trying to find the connection and I believe it is Mallory. I think she worked for him, but don't have it all together yet.

BINGO!!  I think you are right about the money and I will be interested in what you find out about the connection. May I ask why you think it is Mallory??  

Okay here is the Mallory connections...............

Sep 29, 2008
 
Google Mallory Parker:
About Mallory
Current
* Office Manager at Elite Jet Charter, LLC

Past
* Customer Service Representative at Sheltair
* customer service representative at sheltair
* customer service representative at executive air center
Education
* Valencia Community College

Let's see... I grew up on the Orlando Executive Airport and consider it to be my second home. Aviation runs in my family and I couldn't imagine doing something that didn't involve aircraft. I worked at one of the FBO's on the field for a total of 3 years before approached by Elite Jets.

I love to travel, cook and spend time with my friends and family.
About Elite Jets, LLC
Business Location: Orlando, Florida

Mallory worked with her best friend, Michelle.  Michelle's boyfriend/fiance was a charter jet pilot named Edgar, from Puerto Rico.*not sure if he was one of the pilots arrested who turned states evidence on PB or not as they were listed as CI)  IIRC he flew for the same company, either Elite Jet Charter, LLC (probable), or SheltAir (also possible).

Not sure, but this could be the same Michelle as Michelle Murphy, sometime roomie of Lee and Brian Luft(sp?), who knew about the "commando" mission to nab Casey on the night of July 3, but didn't go along for the fun... Michelle Murphy has been interviewed by LE.

Michelle (Mallory's bff) was a babysitter for two kids, per her myspace back in Sept/Oct.  She also has a friend/sister/cousin(?) who has kids -- they live in Sanford, where Casey told Matthew Crisp(sp?) that Caylee had a playdate.

Oh, also, Casey told LE on July 16 that Caylee liked to "try to run around Lake Underhill." On the map, this lake abuts the Executive Airport's runways to the south; looks like it's practically part of the airport property.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 10, 2010, 10:59:49 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
Caylee Anthony case: Response to motion to quash
Posted on August 10th, 2010 by Valhall




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 11:00:23 AM
Here is another indictment for money laundering which I can't find the results of yet. I think they added this one to the indictment in November 09, but haven't found all that yet. If you notice this is another alias name. He evidently has used a number of variations of his name for businesses.

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/userfiles/70/020508benavides.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 11:09:55 AM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf
Thanks, Turbo.  I believe it's PB, also.  It would explain much about the A's being teflon.


It would also explain why after last year things started to go downhill for them and no money, since he was arrested. I have been trying to find the connection and I believe it is Mallory. I think she worked for him, but don't have it all together yet.

BINGO!!  I think you are right about the money and I will be interested in what you find out about the connection. May I ask why you think it is Mallory??  

Okay here is the Mallory connections...............

Sep 29, 2008
 
Google Mallory Parker:
About Mallory
Current
* Office Manager at Elite Jet Charter, LLC

Past
* Customer Service Representative at Sheltair
* customer service representative at sheltair
* customer service representative at executive air center
Education
* Valencia Community College

Let's see... I grew up on the Orlando Executive Airport and consider it to be my second home. Aviation runs in my family and I couldn't imagine doing something that didn't involve aircraft. I worked at one of the FBO's on the field for a total of 3 years before approached by Elite Jets.

I love to travel, cook and spend time with my friends and family.
About Elite Jets, LLC
Business Location: Orlando, Florida

Mallory worked with her best friend, Michelle.  Michelle's boyfriend/fiance was a charter jet pilot named Edgar, from Puerto Rico.*not sure if he was one of the pilots arrested who turned states evidence on PB or not as they were listed as CI)  IIRC he flew for the same company, either Elite Jet Charter, LLC (probable), or SheltAir (also possible).

Not sure, but this could be the same Michelle as Michelle Murphy, sometime roomie of Lee and Brian Luft(sp?), who knew about the "commando" mission to nab Casey on the night of July 3, but didn't go along for the fun... Michelle Murphy has been interviewed by LE.

Michelle (Mallory's bff) was a babysitter for two kids, per her myspace back in Sept/Oct.  She also has a friend/sister/cousin(?) who has kids -- they live in Sanford, where Casey told Matthew Crisp(sp?) that Caylee had a playdate.

Oh, also, Casey told LE on July 16 that Caylee liked to "try to run around Lake Underhill." On the map, this lake abuts the Executive Airport's runways to the south; looks like it's practically part of the airport property.

Holey Moley! Looks like you found the connection.   ::MonkeyCheer4:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 10, 2010, 11:13:29 AM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/08/caylee-anthony-the-victim-keeps-being-overshadowed.html
Caylee Anthony: The victim keeps being overshadowed
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Jose Baez, WFTV, WKMG — posted by halboedeker on August, 10 2010 9:53 AM
Discuss This: Comments(2) | Add to del.icio.us | Digg it

Yesterday would have been Caylee Anthony’s 5th birthday .

Television touched on the milestone and moved on. In this story, nothing is ever Caylee’s alone, not even her birthday. But any attention paid to the victim is heartening. I think Caylee is the main reason most people keep coming back to the story.

By day’s end, the story had shifted to Jose Baez, Casey Anthony’s attorney.

Stations were studying a transcript of a recorded phone call between Baez and prison inmate Robin Lunceford. Lunceford has alleged that two jail inmates made up incriminating stories about Casey Anthony, who is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

Baez hadn’t wanted the public to know the call’s contents, first claiming that it was illegally recorded because he didn’t know he was being recorded.

WKMG-Ch. 6’s Mike DeForest said the transcript suggested Baez did know the call was being recorded. Summing up, DeForest said: “There’s a lot of question as to whether Jose Baez said anything incriminating himself, because he didn’t want the public to see this. We read through the transcript. Baez actually said very little in this. It’s most of that inmate talking.”

WFTV-Ch. 9 Liz Artz said: “Early on, Baez claimed he didn’t know these phone calls were being recorded. The transcripts from those conversations show Baez talked with Lunceford about that.”

WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said there was nothing in the conversation that discredits Baez. Why fight to keep the call private? Sheaffer theorized that Baez possibly wanted to keep something from the prosecution in the very public case.

It was another perplexing chapter in this case.


(Sunny, doxie is o.k.,hope your furbaby is better too.   ::MonkeyKiss:: )


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 11:20:37 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
Caylee Anthony case: Response to motion to quash
Posted on August 10th, 2010 by Valhall

Kudo's to Val as usual!  If in fact the duhfence was denied 2 boxes I'd like to know why before I come to any determination as to how I feel about it.  But had I been on any of the caylee searches and my personal information was given to the duhfence, I would be mad as hell! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 10, 2010, 11:20:50 AM
http://callsforjustice.wordpress.com/2010/08/10/casey-anthony-circus-car-crashes-injures-two-clowns/
Casey Anthony Circus Car Crashes, Injures Two Clowns    ::MonkeyHaHa::
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 11:21:55 AM
Here is another indictment for money laundering which I can't find the results of yet. I think they added this one to the indictment in November 09, but haven't found all that yet. If you notice this is another alias name. He evidently has used a number of variations of his name for businesses.

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/userfiles/70/020508benavides.pdf

Turbo....you are a roto rooter!   thanks for sharing this with us!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 10, 2010, 11:26:36 AM
I'm glad Digger is better Trimm. Sunny I hope your pup gets better real soon  ::MonkeyAngel::                This is what bothers me the most Caylee Anthony: The victim keeps being overshadowed   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 11:26:49 AM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/08/caylee-anthony-the-victim-keeps-being-overshadowed.html
Caylee Anthony: The victim keeps being overshadowed
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Jose Baez, WFTV, WKMG — posted by halboedeker on August, 10 2010 9:53 AM
Discuss This: Comments(2) | Add to del.icio.us | Digg it

Yesterday would have been Caylee Anthony’s 5th birthday .

Television touched on the milestone and moved on. In this story, nothing is ever Caylee’s alone, not even her birthday. But any attention paid to the victim is heartening. I think Caylee is the main reason most people keep coming back to the story.

By day’s end, the story had shifted to Jose Baez, Casey Anthony’s attorney.

Stations were studying a transcript of a recorded phone call between Baez and prison inmate Robin Lunceford. Lunceford has alleged that two jail inmates made up incriminating stories about Casey Anthony, who is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

Baez hadn’t wanted the public to know the call’s contents, first claiming that it was illegally recorded because he didn’t know he was being recorded.

WKMG-Ch. 6’s Mike DeForest said the transcript suggested Baez did know the call was being recorded. Summing up, DeForest said: “There’s a lot of question as to whether Jose Baez said anything incriminating himself, because he didn’t want the public to see this. We read through the transcript. Baez actually said very little in this. It’s most of that inmate talking.”

WFTV-Ch. 9 Liz Artz said: “Early on, Baez claimed he didn’t know these phone calls were being recorded. The transcripts from those conversations show Baez talked with Lunceford about that.”

WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said there was nothing in the conversation that discredits Baez. Why fight to keep the call private? Sheaffer theorized that Baez possibly wanted to keep something from the prosecution in the very public case.

It was another perplexing chapter in this case.


(Sunny, doxie is o.k.,hope your furbaby is better too.   ::MonkeyKiss:: )

IMO BOZO didn't want to call released because of the statement about a personal relationship between he and Kc....as if the whole world hasn't figured it out ::MonkeyRoll::

trim, glad your baby is better....and so is mine....he is 16 and still my baby.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 11:58:43 AM
this was part of the letter from Mark NeJame to sin-cin....

"Stop all of your silly and nonsensical ranting. It seems that you are fabricating matters in an effort to do whatever it takes to help Casey's defense, even if it means ignoring the truth about what really happened to Caylee. If you don't care about what happened to Caylee then just admit it. Stop twisting the truth and doing the bidding for her defense."

AMEN MARK!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 10, 2010, 12:03:41 PM
this was part of the letter from Mark NeJame to sin-cin....

"Stop all of your silly and nonsensical ranting. It seems that you are fabricating matters in an effort to do whatever it takes to help Casey's defense, even if it means ignoring the truth about what really happened to Caylee. If you don't care about what happened to Caylee then just admit it. Stop twisting the truth and doing the bidding for her defense."

AMEN MARK!!!
Wow now that is a good lawyer, one who doesn't kiss his client's azz  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 12:05:03 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
Caylee Anthony case: Response to motion to quash
Posted on August 10th, 2010 by Valhall

Kudo's to Val as usual!  If in fact the duhfence was denied 2 boxes I'd like to know why before I come to any determination as to how I feel about it.  But had I been on any of the caylee searches and my personal information was given to the duhfence, I would be mad as hell! ::MonkeyMad::

I don't think that is true at all. They had a special magistrate there and they were given full access so that is just another lie. They wanted to contact ALL of the volunteers and that would stop a lot people from even searching in the future.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 12:10:18 PM
http://callsforjustice.wordpress.com/2010/08/10/casey-anthony-circus-car-crashes-injures-two-clowns/
Casey Anthony Circus Car Crashes, Injures Two Clowns    ::MonkeyHaHa::
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OMG.............that is hilarious. The funny thing is which they point out is there is NO LEGAL basis for the motion.............Just Cindy said............

Monkeys...........we have missed the boat....We should be ashamed we missed it .....

We did not realize that what Cindy says is now a legal precedent. ROFLMAO!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Scatty on August 10, 2010, 12:12:00 PM
Turbo, I snipped this from the Orlando Sentinel article  you posted:

A U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration agent testified during a bond hearing in Orlando last fall that Benevides asked someone to kidnap Filho's 10-year-old son until Filho paid off a $30 million debt owed to him.

Do you think the As and Bozo are going to try to make something of this? Or maybe they're too much in debt to the guy to try pulling their usual nonsense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 12:12:35 PM

IMO BOZO didn't want to call released because of the statement about a personal relationship between he and Kc....as if the whole world hasn't figured it out ::MonkeyRoll::

trim, glad your baby is better....and so is mine....he is 16 and still my baby.

I think that was it...........like everyone couldn't tell from the pictures she was into women too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 12:14:07 PM
Turbo, I snipped this from the Orlando Sentinel article  you posted:

A U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration agent testified during a bond hearing in Orlando last fall that Benevides asked someone to kidnap Filho's 10-year-old son until Filho paid off a $30 million debt owed to him.

Do you think the As and Bozo are going to try to make something of this? Or maybe they're too much in debt to the guy to try pulling their usual nonsense.

I saw that too, but my guess is they would be way too afraid of him to even try it. He still has long tentacles just from his connections. I still have not found where he is in jail.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 12:34:46 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
Caylee Anthony case: Response to motion to quash
Posted on August 10th, 2010 by Valhall

Kudo's to Val as usual!  If in fact the duhfence was denied 2 boxes I'd like to know why before I come to any determination as to how I feel about it.  But had I been on any of the caylee searches and my personal information was given to the duhfence, I would be mad as hell! ::MonkeyMad::

I don't think that is true at all. They had a special magistrate there and they were given full access so that is just another lie. They wanted to contact ALL of the volunteers and that would stop a lot people from even searching in the future.

yes, they want to be able to call ALL the volunteers.....and you betcha it would stop some people from volunteering. Not everyone wants their face all over the evening news!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 12:36:35 PM
http://callsforjustice.wordpress.com/2010/08/10/casey-anthony-circus-car-crashes-injures-two-clowns/
Casey Anthony Circus Car Crashes, Injures Two Clowns    ::MonkeyHaHa::
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OMG.............that is hilarious. The funny thing is which they point out is there is NO LEGAL basis for the motion.............Just Cindy said............

Monkeys...........we have missed the boat....We should be ashamed we missed it .....

We did not realize that what Cindy says is now a legal precedent. ROFLMAO!

 ::pullinghairout:: ::pullinghairout::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 12:39:59 PM
Here is PROOF that BOZO Is hard at work defending Kc


posted on his facebook account 50 minutes ago!!

Jose Baez:  I have been known to fire things up, but I swear this is NOT ME!!!!!!
From United States Attorney Carmen M. Ortiz – District of Massachusetts : BPDNEWS.COM
www.bpdnews.com
BOSTON, Mass. – A Dorchester man has been arrested and charged for his alleged role in an arson early this morning in Roslindale. U.S. Attorney Carmen M. Ortiz; Eugenio A. Marquez, Acting Special Agent in Charge of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives – Boston Field Office; Boston...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Babybear on August 10, 2010, 12:44:06 PM
this was part of the letter from Mark NeJame to sin-cin....

"Stop all of your silly and nonsensical ranting. It seems that you are fabricating matters in an effort to do whatever it takes to help Casey's defense, even if it means ignoring the truth about what really happened to Caylee. If you don't care about what happened to Caylee then just admit it. Stop twisting the truth and doing the bidding for her defense."

AMEN MARK!!!

Good morning Sunny--Good morning Monks......I am so glad to know that at least someone told Cindy that she is silly and nonsensical. I didn't know if anyone had ever given it to her straight and It's a relief to know that at least one preson did.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 12:51:27 PM
this was part of the letter from Mark NeJame to sin-cin....

"Stop all of your silly and nonsensical ranting. It seems that you are fabricating matters in an effort to do whatever it takes to help Casey's defense, even if it means ignoring the truth about what really happened to Caylee. If you don't care about what happened to Caylee then just admit it. Stop twisting the truth and doing the bidding for her defense."

AMEN MARK!!!

Good morning Sunny--Good morning Monks......I am so glad to know that at least someone told Cindy that she is silly and nonsensical. I didn't know if anyone had ever given it to her straight and It's a relief to know that at least one preson did.

hi BB!  Mark is a class act for sure!  One of the many sad things in all this mess is the amount of people that came to help these vile people and they messed on each and every one of them..in the end they are left with nothing and no one.    I think even the Milsteads have distanced themselves from the Anthony's!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 10, 2010, 12:53:24 PM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf
Cindy is a backstabbing, 2 faced beotch.  She can't handle it when someone catches on to her transparent ways and she is caught playing games.  I swear she has the mentality of a 10 year old.  NeJame nailed it big time in that email and good for him.  Cindy has gotten what she deserves and I do feel that in the end she will pay in some way, shape, or form.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Irish Monkey on August 10, 2010, 12:55:30 PM
Here is PROOF that BOZO Is hard at work defending Kc


posted on his facebook account 50 minutes ago!!

Jose Baez:  I have been known to fire things up, but I swear this is NOT ME!!!!!!
From United States Attorney Carmen M. Ortiz – District of Massachusetts : BPDNEWS.COM
www.bpdnews.com
BOSTON, Mass. – A Dorchester man has been arrested and charged for his alleged role in an arson early this morning in Roslindale. U.S. Attorney Carmen M. Ortiz; Eugenio A. Marquez, Acting Special Agent in Charge of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives – Boston Field Office; Boston...

Yeah, he's googling himself to see if he can find a dufense for his client on the internet!      ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 10, 2010, 12:58:11 PM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf

I hit send too fast...........I also meant to add SMACKDOWN CINDY by NeJames........what a letter.

It was also very revealing ....Jim Lichenstein for one....I still want to know what his stake is in this??....I would BET the A's have signed an agreement with him for a movie or documentary.....$$$$$$$$$  - could this be the anticipate income referred to in the new mortgage papers??
I wonder the same thing Sunny and would bet you are right.  Why else would this guy be at all of the court hearings?  Very interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 10, 2010, 01:01:27 PM
This is America everyone is free to write a book, what does this matter? I'm sure there will be books galore coming from the defense side.
I agree and Mark's book will be in the fiction section and anyone from the defense or the Scamthony's will be found in the non-fiction section.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 10, 2010, 01:05:41 PM
Here is another indictment for money laundering which I can't find the results of yet. I think they added this one to the indictment in November 09, but haven't found all that yet. If you notice this is another alias name. He evidently has used a number of variations of his name for businesses.

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/userfiles/70/020508benavides.pdf
Wow - what webs we weave.  ::MonkeyNoNo::  I don't think this guy is going anywhere anytime soon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 10, 2010, 01:06:50 PM
http://callsforjustice.wordpress.com/2010/08/10/casey-anthony-circus-car-crashes-injures-two-clowns/
Casey Anthony Circus Car Crashes, Injures Two Clowns    ::MonkeyHaHa::
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OMG.............that is hilarious. The funny thing is which they point out is there is NO LEGAL basis for the motion.............Just Cindy said............

Monkeys...........we have missed the boat....We should be ashamed we missed it .....

We did not realize that what Cindy says is now a legal precedent. ROFLMAO!
::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on August 10, 2010, 01:09:48 PM
This is America everyone is free to write a book, what does this matter? I'm sure there will be books galore coming from the defense side.
I agree and Mark's book will be in the fiction section and anyone from the defense or the Scamthony's will be found in the non-fiction section.

 ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 10, 2010, 01:18:14 PM
I have followed a lot of crimes and trials, can anyone name another case that comes close to this disaster? Scott Peterson's parents were pretty obnoxious but don't hold a candle to this bunch. And it never stops, it just keeps on going with this insanity.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Curly on August 10, 2010, 01:31:19 PM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf

I hit send too fast...........I also meant to add SMACKDOWN CINDY by NeJames........what a letter.

Holy Moly. I think he told her!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: KittyMom on August 10, 2010, 01:42:18 PM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf

I hit send too fast...........I also meant to add SMACKDOWN CINDY by NeJames........what a letter.

Holy Moly. I think he told her!

He sure did.  That guy is a class act.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 10, 2010, 01:49:18 PM
It's real simple to me, Mark was not going to be the Anthony's stooge, so Brad took on the job of being a stooge for whatever reason, and I'm sure it involves money.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Scatty on August 10, 2010, 01:50:28 PM


Who is this "William" Cindy keeps referring to?

Also she is nucking futz if she thinks anyone is going to believe she dumped Nejame. Her email was ridiculous. She claims that NeJame called her into his office to withdraw as her attorney. Here's the unbelievable part, if she wanted to get rid of him, why would she then go on this song and dance with him in order for him to see her side of it so that he ended up asking her to keep him on? And why would he ask her to stay with him if he was the one who'd wanted to leave the association? Wouldn't he have just agreed not to terminate his services? The entire sentence from that crazy woman made NO SENSE!!!  ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Scatty on August 10, 2010, 01:51:52 PM
Darn it! Cindy irritates me so much, I forgot the link!

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 10, 2010, 01:58:44 PM
This is America everyone is free to write a book, what does this matter? I'm sure there will be books galore coming from the defense side.
I agree and Mark's book will be in the fiction section and anyone from the defense or the Scamthony's will be found in the non-fiction section.

 ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::
::MonkeyWink:: Hi Sassy - Good to see you. 

I don't understand why Bia$$ wanted this phone call sealed.  I mean surely if it is about the accusation that he is in a relationship with KC then he hasn't been keeping up with the blogs very well because this was all speculated from the get go.  His wanting it sealed makes me believe it is true.  This speaks volumes about his character, not that we didn't have him pegged long ago, but yikes how low can one go?  I have a feeling Bia$$ is living in just as big as a fantasy world as KC.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 10, 2010, 02:03:35 PM
http://www.bloggernews.net/125045
Jose Baez Whines Mommy Mommy Marky Is Being Mean!
Posted on August 10th, 2010
by Simon Barrett in Op-ed, crime
Read 37 times.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Protect the little babies on August 10, 2010, 02:09:09 PM
This is America everyone is free to write a book, what does this matter? I'm sure there will be books galore coming from the defense side.
I agree and Mark's book will be in the fiction section and anyone from the defense or the Scamthony's will be found in the non-fiction section.

 ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::
::MonkeyWink:: Hi Sassy - Good to see you. 

I don't understand why Bia$$ wanted this phone call sealed.  I mean surely if it is about the accusation that he is in a relationship with KC then he hasn't been keeping up with the blogs very well because this was all speculated from the get go.  His wanting it sealed makes me believe it is true.  This speaks volumes about his character, not that we didn't have him pegged long ago, but yikes how low can one go?  I have a feeling Bia$$ is living in just as big as a fantasy world as KC.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


 ::MonkeySlide::  ::MonkeyKiss::

Hello Monkeys...although I do not post much because I agree with you ALL so much that I have nothing to add I just swing up here in the branches, but I wanted to sort of give an opinion regarding why BOZO didn't want these calls exposed....I think (imo) that he is hoping to get his hands of the telephone calls to Myra from the detectives inquiring about BHW (CA) and he doesn't want the state to know.....as Robin said that the detectives came to see Myra BUT they also talked to her on the phone...so my deduction is, is that they are going to try to get those calls....does this make any sense...What do my favorite monkeys think?

 ::MonkeyGavel::  ::MonkeyAngel::  ::MonkeyAngel::  ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::piggy::  ::piggy::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Protect the little babies on August 10, 2010, 02:22:36 PM
 ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

Oh, and one other thing I would like to add.......I WISH that CA would take BHW's "grey pin-stipe" pants that she washed to the court for her to wear,,,knowing that she is wearing the clothes that she "killed" Caylee in and having to sit in court in them in my opinion would be a bit of justice......JMO...

I am mean, and I know it....LOL...

 ::MonkeyGavel::  ::MonkeyGavel::  ::MonkeyGavel::

 ::MonkeyDevil::  ::MonkeyDevil::  ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyAngel::  ::piggy::  ::MonkeyAngel::

No nanners please....LMAO....
 ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 10, 2010, 02:22:56 PM
Protect the little babies........................I think you are correct and Bia$$ did not want to tip his hand so to speak.  Good thinking!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 10, 2010, 02:24:30 PM
::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

Oh, and one other thing I would like to add.......I WISH that CA would take BHW's "grey pin-stipe" pants that she washed to the court for her to wear,,,knowing that she is wearing the clothes that she "killed" Caylee in and having to sit in court in them in my opinion would be a bit of justice......JMO...

I am mean, and I know it....LOL...

 ::MonkeyGavel::  ::MonkeyGavel::  ::MonkeyGavel::

 ::MonkeyDevil::  ::MonkeyDevil::  ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyAngel::  ::piggy::  ::MonkeyAngel::

No nanners please....LMAO....
 ::MonkeyKiss::

::MonkeyDevil:: I would love to see the look on KC's face if that were to happen, that would be the most telling reaction of all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: 4 Donks on August 10, 2010, 02:38:45 PM
This is America everyone is free to write a book, what does this matter? I'm sure there will be books galore coming from the defense side.
I agree and Mark's book will be in the fiction section and anyone from the defense or the Scamthony's will be found in the non-fiction section.

 ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::
::MonkeyWink:: Hi Sassy - Good to see you. 

I don't understand why Bia$$ wanted this phone call sealed.  I mean surely if it is about the accusation that he is in a relationship with KC then he hasn't been keeping up with the blogs very well because this was all speculated from the get go.  His wanting it sealed makes me believe it is true.  This speaks volumes about his character, not that we didn't have him pegged long ago, but yikes how low can one go?  I have a feeling Bia$$ is living in just as big as a fantasy world as KC.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


 ::MonkeySlide::  ::MonkeyKiss::

Hello Monkeys...although I do not post much because I agree with you ALL so much that I have nothing to add I just swing up here in the branches, but I wanted to sort of give an opinion regarding why BOZO didn't want these calls exposed....I think (imo) that he is hoping to get his hands of the telephone calls to Myra from the detectives inquiring about BHW (CA) and he doesn't want the state to know.....as Robin said that the detectives came to see Myra BUT they also talked to her on the phone...so my deduction is, is that they are going to try to get those calls....does this make any sense...What do my favorite monkeys think?

 ::MonkeyGavel::  ::MonkeyAngel::  ::MonkeyAngel::  ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::piggy::  ::piggy::

One of the stations printed transcripts of those phone calls..It was confusing because I thought somehow they got a copy of the Lunsford/Baez call.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Irish Monkey on August 10, 2010, 03:01:36 PM
Did any other monks notice from the emails that Cindy withheld a "thumb drive" of Casey's from LE?  Luke asked DC to send it to him for analysis?  Doesn't that sound like obstruction of justice?  Can Cindy et al be charged for that?  DC should've known better....

 ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 10, 2010, 03:09:10 PM
http://www.bloggernews.net/125043
Caylee Anthony Update: Caylee Would Have Turned 5 Years Old Yesterday
Posted on August 10th, 2010


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 10, 2010, 03:17:39 PM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
08/10/2010           Supplemental State Witness List
08/10/2010           Notice of Provision of Supplemental Discovery
08/10/2010           Notice of Cancellation
of Taking Deposition Upon Oral Examination (for 8/11)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Wyks on August 10, 2010, 03:30:30 PM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf

I hit send too fast...........I also meant to add SMACKDOWN CINDY by NeJames........what a letter.

Re Pete B.... hmmmm interesting!  Sure could have been! 

And NeJames letter to Cindy, yesssssssssss!!  Loved it!  He sure didn't mince any words, eh?  lol  Cindy's email tho, all over the place, omg!

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Wyks on August 10, 2010, 03:38:17 PM
Here is another indictment for money laundering which I can't find the results of yet. I think they added this one to the indictment in November 09, but haven't found all that yet. If you notice this is another alias name. He evidently has used a number of variations of his name for businesses.

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/userfiles/70/020508benavides.pdf

 ::MonkeyEek::


Thanks Turbo!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Wyks on August 10, 2010, 03:43:33 PM

Awwww Trimm, hope Digger is feeling even more better soon!!   ::dogwag::


(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/zMisc/doxie_cat-skratch-fever.jpg)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 10, 2010, 03:53:29 PM
http://mhutch.blogspot.com/2010/08/many-casey-anthony-defense-motions.html
Monday, August 09, 2010
Many Casey Anthony Defense Motions Denied



(Wyks,how cute!He is fine.  ::dogwag:: )


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: cookie on August 10, 2010, 04:43:24 PM
thanks for all the info and articles everyone! Brandi..beautiful picture of Caylee...

loved Mark's letter ! ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 04:51:03 PM
I am stuck....still trying to figure out that darn anticipated income..don't mind me....hattip...the world according/WS

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2010/02/casey-anthonys-parents-tried-to-replace-jose-baez/

Feb 17, 2010 ... Casey Anthony's Parents Tried To Replace Jose Baez


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 10, 2010, 05:07:05 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/24580616/detail.html?treets=orlc&tml=orlc_break&ts=T&tmi=orlc_break_1_02570108102010
Letters, Emails, Docs Released In Casey Case
WFTV obtained several documents in the case against Casey Tuesday, which include emails, letters and transcripts
.

In a new motion Casey’s defense team accused Orlando attorney Mark Nejame of having "ulterior motives" in the case. The motion claims attorney Mark NeJame, who once represented George and Cindy Anthony, and is now the attorney for Texas EquuSearch, approached a “ghost writer” for a book he planned on writing about the case.
DOCUMENT:  Defense Motion On NeJame   http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581279/detail.html
ORDER: Certify Tim Miller   http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581429/detail.html
TRANSCRIPT: Defense’s Call With Writer   http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581532/detail.html
READ: State’s Witness List   http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581575/detail.html
LETTERS: Anthonys   http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581637/detail.html | NeJame To Defense http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581670/detail.html
  Response   http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581492/detail.html
EMAILS: Cindy,Baez,conway,NeJame   http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581702/detail.html
 
AFFIDAVITS: Mason   http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581807/detail.html
J.Lyons   http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581851/detail.html

The defense submitted an interview with writer, David Lohr, where he claimed NeJame mentioned Casey had been offered a plea deal in exchange for information about where Caylee Anthony’s remains were (read transcript) . The defense also wants documents from search team, Texas EquuSearch, and things have been heated during the Casey murder trail.

"Because of laziness or sloppiness this information hasn't been tracked down," Mark NeJame said in court.

In court documents, the defense is attacking EquuSearch attorney and former attorney for George and Cindy Anthony, Mark NeJame.

They are contending he's in the case to promote his own interests, even approaching a national crime reporter named David Lohr about "ghost writing" a book for him about the case.

But perhaps even more startling, Lohr claims NeJame told him Casey Anthony was offered a plea deal; 10-years behind bars to show investigators where to find Caylee's remains. That's information that has never been made public before.

“You say there was never any plea offer?” WFTV reporter Jeff Deal asked NeJame.

“No, no, I'm not aware of one," he replied.
NeJame admits he spoke with Lohr and a reporter for the Orlando Sentinel about a book, but there's no truth to the plea deal.

WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer also believes a 10-year deal is unlikely. He says prosecutors would take a lot of heat for offering such a light sentence.

"I find it highly improbable a deal was even attempted prior to the discovery of the body," Sheaffer said.

The defense would have strongly urged Casey to take the deal knowing, she could get out in just eight and a half years.

In a letter to Mark NeJame, Cindy and George Anthony wrote that he has, “taken deliberate steps to prevent us from finding the truth.” (read letter)

NeJame told WFTV he isn't planning a book, but isn't ruling it out, and if he did, the money would go to charity.

Also in the case, Wednesday, Casey’s defense team will question more witnesses under oath. Her attorneys will depose Casey's ex-fiance, Jesse Grund and his father, Richard Grund.

Casey's parents, George and Cindy Anthony asked detectives to investigate Jesse Grund as a possible suspect. Casey claimed she didn't trust him.

Investigators from the medical examiner's offices will also be questioned.
The State Attorney’s Office would not confirm whether or not such a deal had been offered. WFTV hasn’t heard back from defense.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 10, 2010, 05:12:02 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20013209-504083.html
August 10, 2010 4:10 PM
Casey Anthony Update: Inmate Calls to Attorney Suggest Plan to Hurt Murder Defendant's Case

ORLANDO, Fla. (CBS) State prison officials have released transcripts of phone calls placed to Casey Anthony's defense attorney from an inmate who claims fellow prisoners were going to make up lies in order to sabotage the mother who is awaiting trial in the death of her 2-year-old daughter.

In May, defense attorney Jose Baez received a phone call from Robin Lunceford, a 47-year-old inmate serving a life sentence, claiming Maya Derkovic, another inmate, was going to hand over information to the prosecution regarding the murder of Anthony's daughter, Caylee, reports The Orlando Sentinel.

However, Lunceford claims Derkovic's story is full of hot air and that she was only offering the information in exchange for leniency.

During a conversation Lunceford says she had with Derkovic, she says the 21-year-old inmate explained how she, Anthony, and inmate Robyn Adams were friends at the Orange County Jail.

Lunceford told Baez that Derkovic asked her "What can I get out of this if I know about the murder..."
She replied that the end result would most likely be a lighter sentence or something along those lines, but she did not think Derkovic's story would ever hold up, reports the Florida paper.

Lunceford claims she tried to convince Derkovic not to cooperate with the state's attorney, but that Derkovic said a prison official and someone else connected to the case did not care if she was lying, says The Orlando Sentinel.

"The case only had circumstantial evidence, he knew that and in order to get a death row conviction he needed something more and that this was just perfect," Lunceford told Baez.

In April, Adams and Casey Anthony were caught exchanging notes which is forbidden for inmates in the protective custody section of the jail where Anthony was kept.

Baez had hoped to keep the two phone calls with Lunceford sealed arguing they were illegal because he was unaware they were being recorded; however, the judge denied his request.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 05:14:11 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/24580616/detail.html?treets=orlc&tml=orlc_break&ts=T&tmi=orlc_break_1_02570108102010
Letters, Emails, Docs Released In Casey Case
WFTV obtained several documents in the case against Casey Tuesday, which include emails, letters and transcripts
.

In a new motion Casey’s defense team accused Orlando attorney Mark Nejame of having "ulterior motives" in the case. The motion claims attorney Mark NeJame, who once represented George and Cindy Anthony, and is now the attorney for Texas EquuSearch, approached a “ghost writer” for a book he planned on writing about the case.
DOCUMENT:  Defense Motion On NeJame   http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581279/detail.html
ORDER: Certify Tim Miller   http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581429/detail.html
TRANSCRIPT: Defense’s Call With Writer   http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581532/detail.html
READ: State’s Witness List   http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581575/detail.html
LETTERS: Anthonys   http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581637/detail.html | NeJame To Defense http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581670/detail.html
  Response   http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581492/detail.html
EMAILS: Cindy,Baez,conway,NeJame   http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581702/detail.html
 
AFFIDAVITS: Mason   http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581807/detail.html
J.Lyons   http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581851/detail.html

The defense submitted an interview with writer, David Lohr, where he claimed NeJame mentioned Casey had been offered a plea deal in exchange for information about where Caylee Anthony’s remains were (read transcript) . The defense also wants documents from search team, Texas EquuSearch, and things have been heated during the Casey murder trail.

"Because of laziness or sloppiness this information hasn't been tracked down," Mark NeJame said in court.

In court documents, the defense is attacking EquuSearch attorney and former attorney for George and Cindy Anthony, Mark NeJame.

They are contending he's in the case to promote his own interests, even approaching a national crime reporter named David Lohr about "ghost writing" a book for him about the case.

But perhaps even more startling, Lohr claims NeJame told him Casey Anthony was offered a plea deal; 10-years behind bars to show investigators where to find Caylee's remains. That's information that has never been made public before.

“You say there was never any plea offer?” WFTV reporter Jeff Deal asked NeJame.

“No, no, I'm not aware of one," he replied.
NeJame admits he spoke with Lohr and a reporter for the Orlando Sentinel about a book, but there's no truth to the plea deal.

WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer also believes a 10-year deal is unlikely. He says prosecutors would take a lot of heat for offering such a light sentence.

"I find it highly improbable a deal was even attempted prior to the discovery of the body," Sheaffer said.

The defense would have strongly urged Casey to take the deal knowing, she could get out in just eight and a half years.

In a letter to Mark NeJame, Cindy and George Anthony wrote that he has, “taken deliberate steps to prevent us from finding the truth.” (read letter)

NeJame told WFTV he isn't planning a book, but isn't ruling it out, and if he did, the money would go to charity.

Also in the case, Wednesday, Casey’s defense team will question more witnesses under oath. Her attorneys will depose Casey's ex-fiance, Jesse Grund and his father, Richard Grund.

Casey's parents, George and Cindy Anthony asked detectives to investigate Jesse Grund as a possible suspect. Casey claimed she didn't trust him.

Investigators from the medical examiner's offices will also be questioned.
The State Attorney’s Office would not confirm whether or not such a deal had been offered. WFTV hasn’t heard back from defense.

hahahahaha..what took you so long! ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 10, 2010, 05:21:15 PM
I need more coffee?   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 05:36:13 PM
I need more coffee?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

FYI: David Lohr has now joined insessions!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 10, 2010, 05:39:30 PM
I need more coffee?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

FYI: David Lohr has now joined insessions!!

That could be interesting.I will check it out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Babybear on August 10, 2010, 05:40:29 PM
::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::

Oh, and one other thing I would like to add.......I WISH that CA would take BHW's "grey pin-stipe" pants that she washed to the court for her to wear,,,knowing that she is wearing the clothes that she "killed" Caylee in and having to sit in court in them in my opinion would be a bit of justice......JMO...

I am mean, and I know it....LOL...

 ::MonkeyGavel::  ::MonkeyGavel::  ::MonkeyGavel::

 ::MonkeyDevil::  ::MonkeyDevil::  ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyAngel::  ::piggy::  ::MonkeyAngel::

No nanners please....LMAO....
 ::MonkeyKiss::


Now that, Protect, is one of the better suggestions throughout this travesty.  I'd love to see Casey in those pants.  I love to see Cindy see Casey in those pants.  I'd love to see Baez being clueless as usual.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 10, 2010, 05:44:22 PM
I need more coffee?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

FYI: David Lohr has now joined insessions!!
::MonkeyEek:: It will no doubt get interesting over there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 05:55:03 PM
I need more coffee?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

FYI: David Lohr has now joined insessions!!

That could be interesting.I will check it out.


http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371174&page=24
  start here....his moniker is crimewriter7


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 05:58:08 PM
I need more coffee?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

FYI: David Lohr has now joined insessions!!
::MonkeyEek:: It will no doubt get interesting over there.

 am always suspect when someone involved in this case takes to a public forum. And it looks like he joined up just after Mark Nejame's latest statement came out.........denying he mentioned any plea deal...which makes a whole lot of sense to me...no way would the State offer Kc 10 years for telling them where Caylee remains were IMO ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 06:05:56 PM
Here is PROOF that BOZO Is hard at work defending Kc


posted on his facebook account 50 minutes ago!!

Jose Baez:  I have been known to fire things up, but I swear this is NOT ME!!!!!!
From United States Attorney Carmen M. Ortiz – District of Massachusetts : BPDNEWS.COM
www.bpdnews.com
BOSTON, Mass. – A Dorchester man has been arrested and charged for his alleged role in an arson early this morning in Roslindale. U.S. Attorney Carmen M. Ortiz; Eugenio A. Marquez, Acting Special Agent in Charge of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives – Boston Field Office; Boston...

Yeah, he's googling himself to see if he can find a dufense for his client on the internet!      ::MonkeyDevil::

You would THINK that with the pitiful defense he has put together, he would have something better to do than to be on Facebook in the middle of a working day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 06:08:35 PM
NEW DOCUMENTS RELEASED..............

http://www.wftv.com/news/24580616/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 10, 2010, 06:13:33 PM
I need more coffee?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

FYI: David Lohr has now joined insessions!!

That could be interesting.I will check it out.


http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371174&page=24
  start here....his moniker is crimewriter7
Thank you Sunny  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 10, 2010, 06:14:09 PM
NEW DOCUMENTS RELEASED..............

http://www.wftv.com/news/24580616/detail.html
Thank you Turbo  ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: mizjay on August 10, 2010, 06:23:00 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20013209-504083.html
August 10, 2010 4:10 PM
Casey Anthony Update: Inmate Calls to Attorney Suggest Plan to Hurt Murder Defendant's Case

ORLANDO, Fla. (CBS) State prison officials have released transcripts of phone calls placed to Casey Anthony's defense attorney from an inmate who claims fellow prisoners were going to make up lies in order to sabotage the mother who is awaiting trial in the death of her 2-year-old daughter.

In May, defense attorney Jose Baez received a phone call from Robin Lunceford, a 47-year-old inmate serving a life sentence, claiming Maya Derkovic, another inmate, was going to hand over information to the prosecution regarding the murder of Anthony's daughter, Caylee, reports The Orlando Sentinel.

However, Lunceford claims Derkovic's story is full of hot air and that she was only offering the information in exchange for leniency.

During a conversation Lunceford says she had with Derkovic, she says the 21-year-old inmate explained how she, Anthony, and inmate Robyn Adams were friends at the Orange County Jail.

Lunceford told Baez that Derkovic asked her "What can I get out of this if I know about the murder..."
She replied that the end result would most likely be a lighter sentence or something along those lines, but she did not think Derkovic's story would ever hold up, reports the Florida paper.

Lunceford claims she tried to convince Derkovic not to cooperate with the state's attorney, but that Derkovic said a prison official and someone else connected to the case did not care if she was lying, says The Orlando Sentinel.

"The case only had circumstantial evidence, he knew that and in order to get a death row conviction he needed something more and that this was just perfect," Lunceford told Baez.

In April, Adams and Casey Anthony were caught exchanging notes which is forbidden for inmates in the protective custody section of the jail where Anthony was kept.

Baez had hoped to keep the two phone calls with Lunceford sealed arguing they were illegal because he was unaware they were being recorded; however, the judge denied his request.
   as if anyone on the planet could damage her case more than her skeezy lawyer already has.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 06:24:55 PM
NEW DOCUMENTS RELEASED..............

http://www.wftv.com/news/24580616/detail.html

thanks Turbo..... ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 06:25:53 PM
I need more coffee?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

FYI: David Lohr has now joined insessions!!

That could be interesting.I will check it out.


http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371174&page=24
  start here....his moniker is crimewriter7
Thank you Sunny  ::MonkeyKiss::

YW!!!  Gotta keep an eye on these people every minute! ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Babybear on August 10, 2010, 06:41:38 PM
Here is PROOF that BOZO Is hard at work defending Kc


posted on his facebook account 50 minutes ago!!

Jose Baez:  I have been known to fire things up, but I swear this is NOT ME!!!!!!
From United States Attorney Carmen M. Ortiz – District of Massachusetts : BPDNEWS.COM
www.bpdnews.com
BOSTON, Mass. – A Dorchester man has been arrested and charged for his alleged role in an arson early this morning in Roslindale. U.S. Attorney Carmen M. Ortiz; Eugenio A. Marquez, Acting Special Agent in Charge of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives – Boston Field Office; Boston...

Yeah, he's googling himself to see if he can find a dufense for his client on the internet!      ::MonkeyDevil::

IMO Jose Baez has never fired up anything in his life, except for maybe a BBQ,
If he meant this to indicate he is an exciting person, well only in his own mind.  I think he's a weenie.  Mr. Excitement.  Yeah.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: 4 Donks on August 10, 2010, 06:43:50 PM
I need more coffee?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

FYI: David Lohr has now joined insessions!!

That could be interesting.I will check it out.


http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371174&page=24
  start here....his moniker is crimewriter7
Thank you Sunny  ::MonkeyKiss::

YW!!!  Gotta keep an eye on these people every minute! ::MonkeyDevil::

David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.

(Edit to add link: http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html  MuffyBee)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 10, 2010, 07:03:28 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/08/casey-anthony-mark-nejame-calls-anthony-teams-accusations-laughable.html
Casey Anthony: Mark NeJame calls Anthony team’s accusations ‘laughable’
Caylee and Casey Anthony, George and Cindy Anthony, Jose Baez, WESH, WFTV, WKMG — posted by halboedeker on August, 10 2010 6:12 PM

The Casey Anthony defense team has ripped Orlando attorney Mark NeJame, accusing him of obstruction and promoting his own interests.

How does NeJame respond to the blistering motion the team filed late Monday?

The obstruction accusation is “laughable,” NeJame told WOFL-Ch. 35’s Holly Bristow tonight. 

NeJame used to represent George and Cindy Anthony, the parents of Casey Anthony. Now NeJame represents Texas EquuSearch, which looked for Caylee Anthony.

Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee. The defense team and NeJame are locked in a battle over records on the EquuSearch volunteers. (Anthony is shown last month with attorneys Cheney Mason and Jose Baez in this photo by Red Huber of the Sentinel.)

NeJame said it’s “horrible how Casey Anthony’s defense team has tried to harass the volunteers who tried to find Caylee Anthony,” WKMG-Ch. 6’s Mike DeForest reported.

DeForest reported that NeJame “adamantly denied allegations made by Baez that he tried to steal Casey Anthony away and take over as her attorney.”

DeForest gained the most withering comments from NeJame. In the defense motion, Baez said NeJame’s actions have been “a complete and total obstruction of the defense’s attempts to seek the truth.”

NeJame told DeForest, “What Mr. Baez is doing is consistent with how he’s been handling the case throughout, and people can draw their own conclusions.”

What do you say to that?
WOFL’s Bristow asked if NeJame notified a TV station when the defense team came to NeJame’s office to look at EquuSearch records.

“Absolutely, positively not,” NeJame told WOFL. “If that call got made by a lawyer, it was made  by them.” 

The Anthony team has denied NeJame’s accusation and countered that NeJame has consulted a writer about an Anthony book, Bristow added.

NeJame acknowledged to Bristow that conversations had occurred, but added there are no plans for a book.

Bristow said that Anthony attorney Jose Baez had not returned her call for an interview.

Was there ever a plea deal in the Anthony case?

“There was no plea deal to my knowledge whatsoever,” NeJame told WFTV-Ch. 9. “I think one could have gotten a plea deal  for someone in that 10- to 15-year range.”

But crime writer David Lohr says NeJame had mentioned that Anthony had been offered a plea deal for 10 years if she would reveal where Caylee’s remains were, WFTV’s Jeff Deal reported.

NeJame acknowledged he did approach Lohr about a book but there was a misunderstanding about the plea deal, Deal added.

WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer dismissed talk of a 10-year plea deal. “I find it highly improbable that a deal was even attempted prior to the discovery of the body,” Sheaffer said.   

The State Attorney’s Office would neither confirm nor deny the plea offer, WFTV anchor Bob Opsahl said.  The Anthony defense team hadn’t returned calls, Deal reported.

What of an Anthony book? NeJame isn’t ruling it out, and if he did do one, he’d give the money to charity, Deal said.

The Anthony defense team tomorrow will depose Jesse Grund, Casey’s former fiance, and his father, Richard Grund, WFTV reported.
WESH-Ch. 2’s Bob Kealing focused on prison inmate Robin Lunceford’s allegations that another inmate, Maya Derkovic, had made up stories about Anthony. In a phone call to Jose Baez, Lunceford said that Derkovic admitted fabricating Anthony stories.

Orlando attorney Richard Hornsby predicted that it’s unlikely any of these claims will be part of Anthony’s murder trial. ”It’s hearsay upon hearsay, and that’s why the courts don’t generally like hearsay testimony,” Hornsby told Kealing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 07:11:08 PM

IMO Jose Baez has never fired up anything in his life, except for maybe a BBQ,
If he meant this to indicate he is an exciting person, well only in his own mind.  I think he's a weenie.  Mr. Excitement.  Yeah.

Now you STOP THAT Baby Bear you KNOW he went to that sex seminar thingy. ROFLMAO!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: jjayinthemorning on August 10, 2010, 07:12:23 PM
hearsay is spelled h e a r say.
That is all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 07:15:02 PM

YW!!!  Gotta keep an eye on these people every minute! ::MonkeyDevil::

WOW........isn't that the truth !!!!  Most of them are as crooked as a dog's hind leg and twice as slippery.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 07:16:37 PM

David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.

Isn't he the one I got into it with big time on WS? It seems like it was and he was telling me how important he was to be sent to cover that story?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Scatty on August 10, 2010, 07:23:41 PM
NEW DOCUMENTS RELEASED..............

http://www.wftv.com/news/24580616/detail.html

NeJame says in a nutshell what anyone that's met her wants to say to Cindy: Stop all of your silly and nonsensical ranting."

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyCheer4::  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 10, 2010, 07:58:46 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/24579474/detail.html

Casey Anthony To Lose Drivers License
Clerk Asks State To Suspend License For Failing To Pay Court Costs

POSTED: Tuesday, August 10, 2010
UPDATED: 7:14 pm EDT August 10, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony has failed to pay court costs ordered by a judge, according to the Orange County Clerk of Courts.

On Saturday, the clerk turned over the $381 overdue bill to a collection agency. The clerk has also sent a notice to the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles requesting that Anthony's drivers license be suspended until the debt is paid.

In January, Anthony pleaded guilty to stealing checks from her former friend Amy Huizenga.

Judge Stan Strickland sentenced Anthony to 412 days in jail, which she had already served while incarcerated up on murder charges.

The judge also ordered Anthony to pay $348 in court costs, which were to be paid in full by the end of April.

According to court clerk records, Anthony never paid those costs, as well as more than $30 in late fees.

Under Florida law, the state can suspend a defendant's drivers license if they fail to make timely court-ordered payments.

Casey Anthony's father has expressed interest in his daughter retaining her driving privileges while she's locked up in jail. In a March 2009 letter, George Anthony asked his daughter to sign some drivers license paperwork that he had given to her attorney. "Please, we need that signed," George Anthony wrote. "If not, your license is void and you would have to take all the tests again."

In addition to court costs, the Orange County Sheriff's Office submitted a $5517.75 bill for "investigative costs" associated with the check fraud case. Anthony's attorneys have disputed that amount, and so far a judge has not ordered Anthony to pay those costs.



I really don't think this is going to be a problem....she will never drive again EVER!  IMO ::MonkeyNoNo::




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 10, 2010, 08:04:35 PM

Casey Anthony's father has expressed interest in his daughter retaining her driving privileges while she's locked up in jail. In a March 2009 letter, George Anthony asked his daughter to sign some drivers license paperwork that he had given to her attorney. "Please, we need that signed," George Anthony wrote. "If not, your license is void and you would have to take all the tests again."  ::MonkeyEek::  And like this is a problem? She is in jail and waiting for her murder trial to start, and George is worried about her driving privileges. Stop hitting the   ::monkeywine2:: and start thinking clearly.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: klaasend on August 10, 2010, 08:09:21 PM
Hate to bring this OLD post forward but we received an email from Drew Kesse clarifying the Kidsfinder stuff.  Drew and Harlee have both asked to have their names removed from the Kidsfinders site after they realized that the Milsteads were felons.  The Milsteads have so far refused to remove the names:

I am still stuck on KFN ...like everyone else.
KFN shows this as their current license active address: 1740 E Rd #B Loxahatchee, FL 33470. I tried to map it. Its just a big field on a dirt road. No sign of humans or structures.
It shows these people listed that are KFN on this site:
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Loxahatchee/sherri-milstead-P1892833.aspx
Sherri Milstead
Related People:
    * Bobby J Vanover - this man comes up in searches that his little girl drown/family incident
    * Dennis Milstead
    * James Riddle
    * Karen Groover
    * Kari M Milstead
    * Linda Tinelli
    * Malori J Milstead
    * Mischa Tuttle - this is wife  of Vanover listed above, Daughter drown :(
    * Sheri McCandless
Related Companies:
    * Gotcha Billboards, Inc.
    * Kid Finders Network, Inc.
    * The Sign Store, Inc.
*Safety in a Flash I found on my own. www.safetyinaflash.com
Possible Related Companies:
    * American Graphics and Sign Shop, Inc.
    * American Seeding & Erosion Control,Inc.
    * American Seeding and Erosion Services, Inc.
-- Looking up on sunbiz.org
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?action=DETFIL&inq_doc_number=N06000010388&inq_came_from=NAMFWD&cor_web_names_seq_number=0000&names_name_ind=N&names_cor_number=&names_name_seq=&names_name_ind=&names_comp_name=KIDFINDER&names_filing_type=
not sure that link will work.
http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/55332975.pdf   doc created 5/2009
lists more names affiliated with KFN
The one name that I found on the last filed document under KFN 5/09 is " Harlee Samuels"
She is listed under the core group that make up KFN. She is also the " Secretary" to Florida Missing Children's Day Foundation. http://www.fmcdf.org/ Drew Kesse is the President. Jennifer Kesse's Father. She is very young. She is a college student at Univ of Florida.
If you go to this link http://fmcdf.org/donating.htm and look at the Newsletter it states that Harlee Samuels is active secretary in late 2009.
With all the talk about KFN being sketchy/fraud etc.. I can't figure out Harlee Samuels  being within both organizations.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: cookie on August 10, 2010, 08:21:51 PM

Casey Anthony's father has expressed interest in his daughter retaining her driving privileges while she's locked up in jail. In a March 2009 letter, George Anthony asked his daughter to sign some drivers license paperwork that he had given to her attorney. "Please, we need that signed," George Anthony wrote. "If not, your license is void and you would have to take all the tests again."  ::MonkeyEek::  And like this is a problem? She is in jail and waiting for her murder trial to start, and George is worried about her driving privileges. Stop hitting the   ::monkeywine2:: and start thinking clearly.

yeah! what a wackadoodle George is! he is worried about Casey's drivers license being voided while she is locked up in jail...In jail for fricking murdering her own daughter! his grand daughter!!! and he is worried about her driving?? wth!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: 4 Donks on August 10, 2010, 08:24:51 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html

This is Lohrs blog


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 10, 2010, 08:26:26 PM

Casey Anthony's father has expressed interest in his daughter retaining her driving privileges while she's locked up in jail. In a March 2009 letter, George Anthony asked his daughter to sign some drivers license paperwork that he had given to her attorney. "Please, we need that signed," George Anthony wrote. "If not, your license is void and you would have to take all the tests again."  ::MonkeyEek::  And like this is a problem? She is in jail and waiting for her murder trial to start, and George is worried about her driving privileges. Stop hitting the   ::monkeywine2:: and start thinking clearly.

yeah! what a wackadoodle George is! he is worried about Casey's drivers license being voided while she is locked up in jail...In jail for fricking murdering her own daughter! his grand daughter!!! and he is worried about her driving?? wth!!!
Another example of their insane priorities.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Brandi on August 10, 2010, 08:30:49 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/24579474/detail.html

Casey Anthony To Lose Drivers License
Clerk Asks State To Suspend License For Failing To Pay Court Costs

POSTED: Tuesday, August 10, 2010
UPDATED: 7:14 pm EDT August 10, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony has failed to pay court costs ordered by a judge, according to the Orange County Clerk of Courts.

On Saturday, the clerk turned over the $381 overdue bill to a collection agency. The clerk has also sent a notice to the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles requesting that Anthony's drivers license be suspended until the debt is paid.

In January, Anthony pleaded guilty to stealing checks from her former friend Amy Huizenga.

Judge Stan Strickland sentenced Anthony to 412 days in jail, which she had already served while incarcerated up on murder charges.

The judge also ordered Anthony to pay $348 in court costs, which were to be paid in full by the end of April.

According to court clerk records, Anthony never paid those costs, as well as more than $30 in late fees.

Under Florida law, the state can suspend a defendant's drivers license if they fail to make timely court-ordered payments.

Casey Anthony's father has expressed interest in his daughter retaining her driving privileges while she's locked up in jail. In a March 2009 letter, George Anthony asked his daughter to sign some drivers license paperwork that he had given to her attorney. "Please, we need that signed," George Anthony wrote. "If not, your license is void and you would have to take all the tests again."

In addition to court costs, the Orange County Sheriff's Office submitted a $5517.75 bill for "investigative costs" associated with the check fraud case. Anthony's attorneys have disputed that amount, and so far a judge has not ordered Anthony to pay those costs.



I really don't think this is going to be a problem....she will never drive again EVER!  IMO ::MonkeyNoNo::



Hahaha. I was tempted to put Casey in a baby car and have her driving in circles in her cell.

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: klaasend on August 10, 2010, 08:31:30 PM
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www.scaredmonkeysradio.com

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: jjayinthemorning on August 10, 2010, 08:35:35 PM

Casey Anthony's father has expressed interest in his daughter retaining her driving privileges while she's locked up in jail. In a March 2009 letter, George Anthony asked his daughter to sign some drivers license paperwork that he had given to her attorney. "Please, we need that signed," George Anthony wrote. "If not, your license is void and you would have to take all the tests again."  ::MonkeyEek::  And like this is a problem? She is in jail and waiting for her murder trial to start, and George is worried about her driving privileges. Stop hitting the   ::monkeywine2:: and start thinking clearly.

yeah! what a wackadoodle George is! he is worried about Casey's drivers license being voided while she is locked up in jail...In jail for fricking murdering her own daughter! his grand daughter!!! and he is worried about her driving?? wth!!!
Another example of their insane priorities.
I suspect some secret note passing in this little drivers license operation.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Scatty on August 10, 2010, 08:37:18 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html

This is Lohrs blog

Wasn't he Sean Krause's uncle?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: tupelohoney on August 10, 2010, 08:59:13 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html

This is Lohrs blog

Wasn't he Sean Krause's uncle?
Sean did state that he was.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Brandi on August 10, 2010, 09:01:03 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html

This is Lohrs blog

Wasn't he Sean Krause's uncle?

"David, I know the joke about you being my uncle may have gone a bit too far, but I really wish I had an uncle like you. Actually, I consider you a brother."
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2009/02/sean-krause.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Sister on August 10, 2010, 09:06:54 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/24579474/detail.html

Casey Anthony To Lose Drivers License
Clerk Asks State To Suspend License For Failing To Pay Court Costs

POSTED: Tuesday, August 10, 2010
UPDATED: 7:14 pm EDT August 10, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony has failed to pay court costs ordered by a judge, according to the Orange County Clerk of Courts.

On Saturday, the clerk turned over the $381 overdue bill to a collection agency. The clerk has also sent a notice to the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles requesting that Anthony's drivers license be suspended until the debt is paid.

In January, Anthony pleaded guilty to stealing checks from her former friend Amy Huizenga.

Judge Stan Strickland sentenced Anthony to 412 days in jail, which she had already served while incarcerated up on murder charges.

The judge also ordered Anthony to pay $348 in court costs, which were to be paid in full by the end of April.

According to court clerk records, Anthony never paid those costs, as well as more than $30 in late fees.

Under Florida law, the state can suspend a defendant's drivers license if they fail to make timely court-ordered payments.

Casey Anthony's father has expressed interest in his daughter retaining her driving privileges while she's locked up in jail. In a March 2009 letter, George Anthony asked his daughter to sign some drivers license paperwork that he had given to her attorney. "Please, we need that signed," George Anthony wrote. "If not, your license is void and you would have to take all the tests again."

In addition to court costs, the Orange County Sheriff's Office submitted a $5517.75 bill for "investigative costs" associated with the check fraud case. Anthony's attorneys have disputed that amount, and so far a judge has not ordered Anthony to pay those costs.



I really don't think this is going to be a problem....she will never drive again EVER!  IMO ::MonkeyNoNo::



Hahaha. I was tempted to put Casey in a baby car and have her driving in circles in her cell.

 ::MonkeyGavel::

Maybe with a little cheeto in her grubby hand???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Babybear on August 10, 2010, 09:39:10 PM

IMO Jose Baez has never fired up anything in his life, except for maybe a BBQ,
If he meant this to indicate he is an exciting person, well only in his own mind.  I think he's a weenie.  Mr. Excitement.  Yeah.

Now you STOP THAT Baby Bear you KNOW he went to that sex seminar thingy. ROFLMAO!!

Oh, Yeah.....Well, I doubt he fired it up there, either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: tupelohoney on August 10, 2010, 09:39:47 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html

This is Lohrs blog

Wasn't he Sean Krause's uncle?

"David, I know the joke about you being my uncle may have gone a bit too far, but I really wish I had an uncle like you. Actually, I consider you a brother."
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2009/02/sean-krause.html
Thanks for finding that!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 10:06:12 PM
Hate to bring this OLD post forward but we received an email from Drew Kesse clarifying the Kidsfinder stuff.  Drew and Harlee have both asked to have their names removed from the Kidsfinders site after they realized that the Milsteads were felons.  The Milsteads have so far refused to remove the names:

I am still stuck on KFN ...like everyone else.
KFN shows this as their current license active address: 1740 E Rd #B Loxahatchee, FL 33470. I tried to map it. Its just a big field on a dirt road. No sign of humans or structures.
It shows these people listed that are KFN on this site:
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Loxahatchee/sherri-milstead-P1892833.aspx
Sherri Milstead
Related People:
    * Bobby J Vanover - this man comes up in searches that his little girl drown/family incident
    * Dennis Milstead
    * James Riddle
    * Karen Groover
    * Kari M Milstead
    * Linda Tinelli
    * Malori J Milstead
    * Mischa Tuttle - this is wife  of Vanover listed above, Daughter drown :(
    * Sheri McCandless
Related Companies:
    * Gotcha Billboards, Inc.
    * Kid Finders Network, Inc.
    * The Sign Store, Inc.
*Safety in a Flash I found on my own. www.safetyinaflash.com
Possible Related Companies:
    * American Graphics and Sign Shop, Inc.
    * American Seeding & Erosion Control,Inc.
    * American Seeding and Erosion Services, Inc.
-- Looking up on sunbiz.org
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?action=DETFIL&inq_doc_number=N06000010388&inq_came_from=NAMFWD&cor_web_names_seq_number=0000&names_name_ind=N&names_cor_number=&names_name_seq=&names_name_ind=&names_comp_name=KIDFINDER&names_filing_type=
not sure that link will work.
http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/55332975.pdf   doc created 5/2009
lists more names affiliated with KFN
The one name that I found on the last filed document under KFN 5/09 is " Harlee Samuels"
She is listed under the core group that make up KFN. She is also the " Secretary" to Florida Missing Children's Day Foundation. http://www.fmcdf.org/ Drew Kesse is the President. Jennifer Kesse's Father. She is very young. She is a college student at Univ of Florida.
If you go to this link http://fmcdf.org/donating.htm and look at the Newsletter it states that Harlee Samuels is active secretary in late 2009.
With all the talk about KFN being sketchy/fraud etc.. I can't figure out Harlee Samuels  being within both organizations.


I never got OFF of them..............here is some more for you,

KidFinders has expanded since joining forces with Cindy and George Anthony
May 5, 2009
tags: Casey Anthony, Caylee Anthony, Cindy Anthony, Dennis Milstead, George Anthony, kid finders, kidfinders, Never Lose Hope Foundation
by itsamysterytome
Well, if this doesn’t curl your toes I don’t know what will. Check it out:
EXTREME Search Rescue and Recovery  LINK A division of Kid Finders Network

And for a mere $25.00 a year you can become a member–after filling out a form and answering a few choice questions like–Are you a convicted felon?   Obviously Dennis Milstead made an exception for himself on that one……………………
Quotes from website:
“Benefits of Joining:
“There are several benefits to becoming a member of our organization. Our members become friends and in return we can all make a difference in the communities we live in.”
——————————————————————————————
“On call 24/7 to assist Law Enforcement.”
——————————————————————————————
Also Available Is Our State of the Art “SS Caylee Marie”  Search Boat Equipped With Side Scan Sonar, Search Lights and Radio Equipment.”
——————————————————————————————
And if that doesn’t sink your boat check this one out:
—————————————————————————————–
The House of Purpose LINK — Owned and Operated by Kid Finders Network
——————————————————————————————–
Quotes from website:
“A Shelter for Teenage Girls From Age 12-18
———————————————————-
“Runaways, Homeless, Abandoned, Family Issues”
———————————————————
“A safe place with a family atmosphere”
———————————————————
“Our goal is to reunite families.”
———————————————————
And this one:
Reverse 911 LINK Webpage coming soon.
Of course the reverse 911 technology comes from none other than the Never Lose Hope Foundation (they also paid for the SS Caylee Marie) and was founded by a man (William Rivera)  that is associated with Resolutions Center Corp. which was recently fined by the State of Florida for their telemarketing practices.
Funny how crooked people draw other crooked people like magnets.  Not so funny how they all prey on unsuspecting people at their most vulnerable moments.
Resolutions Center Corp Links:
Orange County Tax Collector LINK
Opeation telephony LINK
Arrests made for illegal telemarketing LINK
This article below is a real eye opener into Resolutions Center Corp practices.
Complaints against Resolutions Center Corp LINK
Blogs about: Dennis Milstead
Featured Blog
 
Kid Finders out of money as missing children's non-profits struggle to survive in Florida
There was an article in the Orlando Sentinel today titled “Hope, help, fade for the missing.” written by Amy L Edwards, staff writer.  The purpose of the article was to bring attention to … more →
It's a mystery to me!
 Kid Finders out of money as missing children's non-profits struggle to survive in Florida — 47 comments
itsamysterytome wrote 1 year ago: There was an article in the Orlando Sentinel today titled “Hope, help, fade for the missing. … more →
Tags: caylee anthony, casey anthony, Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation, George Anthony, Cindy Anthony, Kid Finders, sherri milstead, Orlando Sentinel, non-profit organizations
 The Anthonys Will Not Be Charged In Their Memorial/Chase Incident — 37 comments
niecey456 wrote 1 year ago: The Anthonys will not be charged in the incident involving Louis Peter and her friend. They were try … more →
Tags: Crime, caylee anthony, Cindy Anthony, casey anthony, George Anthony, Orlando Sentinel, Kid Finders, News 13, scam artists
 Casey Anthony: Parents Won't Face Charges — 1 comment
kreuzer33 wrote 1 year ago: No charges are going to be filed against George and Cindy Anthony following an incident involving a … more →
Tags: caylee anthony, casey anthony, Tot Mom, Missing Girl, Jose Baez, Cindy Anthony, missing child, Leonard Padilla, George Anthony
 Casey Anthony: Complaint Filed Against Parents — 13 comments
kreuzer33 wrote 1 year ago: It appears that two women have filed a criminal complaint against George and Cindy Anthony after the … more →
Tags: caylee anthony, casey anthony, Tot Mom, Jose Baez, Cindy Anthony, Leonard Padilla, George Anthony, Lee Anthony, Anthony Trial
 It Appears That The Anthonys And The Milsteads Could Be In Some Trouble — 141 comments
niecey456 wrote 1 year ago: Well, it appears that the Anthonys and the Milsteads could be in some trouble. Apparently Dennis is … more →
Tags: caylee anthony, casey anthony, Crime, Cindy Anthony, George Anthony, brad conway, Sherry Mistead, Orlando Sentinel, wesh 2
 Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation is up and open for business on Hopespring Drive! — 59 comments
itsamysterytome wrote 1 year ago: Here’s the contact info for the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation.  Notice the address?  I asked … more →
Tags: caylee anthony, casey anthony, Cindy Anthony, George Anthony, Jose Baez, Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation, Casey Anthony trial, KidFinders, michelle bart
 KidFinders has expanded since joining forces with Cindy and George Anthony — 69 comments
itsamysterytome wrote 1 year ago: Well, if this doesn’t curl your toes I don’t know what will. Check it out: EXTREME Searc … more →
Tags: casey anthony, Cindy Anthony, George Anthony, Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation, Casey Anthony trial, KidFinders, Kid Finders, caylee anthony, Never Lose Hope Foundation
 George Anthony gives first real interview since Caylee was found — 38 comments
itsamysterytome wrote 1 year ago: Adam Longo, Local 6 News joined George Anthony on the “maiden voyage” of the SS Caylee M … more →
Tags: caylee anthony, casey anthony, Cindy Anthony, George Anthony, Jose Baez, Casey Anthony trial, Leonard Padilla, KidFinders, SS Caylee Marie
 George Anthony, last known occupation:guard, and Cindy Anthony, last known occupation:nurse-- to head new non-profit foundation for missing children — 46 comments
itsamysterytome wrote 1 year ago: Below is the  10 minute uncut version of the video posted earlier of George promoting Kidfinder … more →
Tags: caylee anthony, casey anthony, Cindy Anthony, George Anthony, Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation, Casey Anthony trial, Leonard Padilla, KidFinders, The Anthony Family
 The SS Caylee Marie--KidFinder's has a new boat thanks to who? — 29 comments
itsamysterytome wrote 1 year ago: The Anthony family is back in the news.  Tuesday afternoon they sent a text message to reporter, Hol … more →
Tags: caylee anthony, casey anthony, Cindy Anthony, George Anthony, Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation, Casey Anthony trial, KidFinders, The Anthony Family, Haleigh Cummings
 Kidfinders closes Help Find Caylee headquarters — 29 comments
itsamysterytome wrote 1 year ago: Kidfinders has packed up and will be moving on.  Kidfinder’s founder, Dennis Milstead,  said t … more →
Tags: caylee anthony, casey anthony, Cindy Anthony, George Anthony, KidFinders, Kid Finders
 Physical or Fiscal?
MCA wrote 1 year ago: On the Resources tab of this site you can find several charities and foundations that assist with ef … more →
Tags: Main, Missing Children, Missing Children Resources, caylee anthony, kid finders network, GuideStar
 Why would Cindy and George Anthony chose Kid Finders to look for Caylee? — 45 comments
itsamysterytome wrote 1 year ago: Read the article below, and watch the video. When you’re done please tell me why in the hell t … more →
Tags: caylee anthony, casey anthony, Cindy Anthony, George Anthony, Leonard Padilla, Kid Finders
 What is the deal with Kidsfinders, let me tell you.
erickacourtney wrote 1 year ago: Listen, now this has pissed me off so much. I can barely control my anger. Where the hell was I when … more →
Tags: Author Ericka Courtney protestor, casey anthony, caylee anthony, George Anthony, Cindy Anthony, Lee Anthony, Where is my child, Leonard Padilla, Trenton Duckett




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 10:16:30 PM
And some more on Kid Finders and their connection with Pete B.

http://www.extremesearchandrescue.com/index.html

http://orlando.craigslist.org/search/jjj?query=interest%20rate
Resolutions center
Orlando, FL
407.591.9759
407-591-9759
NEAR SANDLAKE AND OBT
NEAR THE FASHION SQUARE MALL
Sand Lake Rd. & S. Orange Blossom Trail
407-844-4948
407-418-0235
http://resolutionscenter.com/site/default.aspx
Winter Park, FL
321-527-3445
321-527-3447
Resolutions Center, Corp.
7600 Southland Boulevard, Suite 101
Orlando, FL 32809
Phone: 877-696-1474
Fax: 321-214-0323
Email: csr@resolutionscenter.com

•  http://www.orlando.bbb.org/codbrep.html?wlcl=y&id=195753173
Primary Contact: Mr. Parrish Mateo (President)
Complaint Contact: Ms. Carol Ann (Compliance Department
from the orlando BBB
also know as:
Nationwide Marketing
Newport Equity
Resource Technology Center Corp.
RTC Solution Co
RTC, Inc
The Resolution Center
other locations:
1060 State Rd. 434, STE 156, Longwood, FL 32750, Seminole County
1583 E. Silver Star Rd., Ste 310, Ocoee, FL 34761, Orange County

•  http://www.orlando.bbb.org/codbrep.html?wlcl=y&id=195753173
Primary Contact: Mr. Parrish Mateo (President)
Complaint Contact: Ms. Carol Ann (Compliance Department
from the orlando BBB
also know as:
Nationwide Marketing
Newport Equity
Resource Technology Center Corp.
RTC Solution Co
RTC, Inc
The Resolution Center
other locations:
1060 State Rd. 434, STE 156, Longwood, FL 32750, Seminole County
1583 E. Silver Star Rd., Ste 310, Ocoee, FL 34761, Orange County


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 10:21:33 PM
Hate to bring this OLD post forward but we received an email from Drew Kesse clarifying the Kidsfinder stuff.  Drew and Harlee have both asked to have their names removed from the Kidsfinders site after they realized that the Milsteads were felons.  The Milsteads have so far refused to remove the names:

I am still stuck on KFN ...like everyone else.
KFN shows this as their current license active address: 1740 E Rd #B Loxahatchee, FL 33470. I tried to map it. Its just a big field on a dirt road. No sign of humans or structures.
It shows these people listed that are KFN on this site:
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Loxahatchee/sherri-milstead-P1892833.aspx
Sherri Milstead
Related People:
    * Bobby J Vanover - this man comes up in searches that his little girl drown/family incident
    * Dennis Milstead
    * James Riddle
    * Karen Groover
    * Kari M Milstead
    * Linda Tinelli
    * Malori J Milstead
    * Mischa Tuttle - this is wife  of Vanover listed above, Daughter drown :(
    * Sheri McCandless


Sherry Milstead & Sheri McCandless are the SAME PERSON.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 10:28:47 PM
So NOW we get the REAL story on BOZO's latest motion. He did not abide by the court orders and did not make arrangements for the monitor to be paid like was required.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581670/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 10:31:35 PM
Some new witnesses added to the State witness list.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581575/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 10, 2010, 10:32:45 PM

Casey Anthony's father has expressed interest in his daughter retaining her driving privileges while she's locked up in jail. In a March 2009 letter, George Anthony asked his daughter to sign some drivers license paperwork that he had given to her attorney. "Please, we need that signed," George Anthony wrote. "If not, your license is void and you would have to take all the tests again."  ::MonkeyEek::  And like this is a problem? She is in jail and waiting for her murder trial to start, and George is worried about her driving privileges. Stop hitting the   ::monkeywine2:: and start thinking clearly.

yeah! what a wackadoodle George is! he is worried about Casey's drivers license being voided while she is locked up in jail...In jail for fricking murdering her own daughter! his grand daughter!!! and he is worried about her driving?? wth!!!
Another example of their insane priorities.

LOL- maybe he envisions her as a future "meals on wheels" diva?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: flamom on August 10, 2010, 10:35:43 PM
I dont think Sheri McCandless is Sherry Milstein at all.. The first sheri still lives out in Loxahatchee and has a different name for a spouse.
http://www.pbcgov.com/papa/aspx/GeneralSearch/GeneralSearch.aspx
you can search the names.. I hesitate printing his name .. maybe he has nothing to do with the Milsteads


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: flamom on August 10, 2010, 10:42:31 PM
Please excuse my manners.. Hello Monkey friends!.. ( this is late for me )  ::MonkeyHaHa:: am trying to catch up!
As far as Georgie gurl wanting KC to sign DL papers I call bull poop on that.. I suspect more sneaky dealings going on.. like KC having to sign something ..perhaps something to do with money.. licensing.. release papers? They are such abhorrent beings..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 10, 2010, 11:00:26 PM
http://callsforjustice.wordpress.com/2010/08/10/casey-anthony-circus-car-crashes-injures-two-clowns/
Casey Anthony Circus Car Crashes, Injures Two Clowns    ::MonkeyHaHa::
08/10/2010 donchais Leave a comment Go to comments



OMG.............that is hilarious. The funny thing is which they point out is there is NO LEGAL basis for the motion.............Just Cindy said............

Monkeys...........we have missed the boat....We should be ashamed we missed it .....

We did not realize that what Cindy says is now a legal precedent. ROFLMAO!


All hail, Grand Legal Poobah CinCin Anthony ...   LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 10, 2010, 11:04:08 PM
this was part of the letter from Mark NeJame to sin-cin....

"Stop all of your silly and nonsensical ranting. It seems that you are fabricating matters in an effort to do whatever it takes to help Casey's defense, even if it means ignoring the truth about what really happened to Caylee. If you don't care about what happened to Caylee then just admit it. Stop twisting the truth and doing the bidding for her defense."

AMEN MARK!!!

 ::MonkeyCool::   This I also found profound ...     ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: jjayinthemorning on August 10, 2010, 11:11:58 PM
Some new witnesses added to the State witness list.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581575/detail.html
Who is Erica Gonzales?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: jjayinthemorning on August 10, 2010, 11:17:19 PM
So NOW we get the REAL story on BOZO's latest motion. He did not abide by the court orders and did not make arrangements for the monitor to be paid like was required.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581670/detail.html
Nejames calls Baez lazy and not serious about the case. I wonder if Casey knows that?
Of she knows that does she believe it? 

Who is Sealock?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 11:44:46 PM
Cindy Anthony, still a Liar, liar pants on fire
Filed under Casey Anthony 147 comments

http://humbleopinionforum.net/2010/08/10/cindy-anthony-still-a-liar-liar-pants-on-fire/

I am just getting tired of Cindy Anthony.  She is the worlds largest liar, liar pants on fire.

She seems to think that no matter what she says, its the “GODS” truth!  But in the real world, what she say is nothing more than just pure lies.  She says nothing that proves Casey innocent, what she does is makes herself look foolish, childish and totally ignorant.

I am sure there is medicine she could go on to stop the lies, and maybe start with some truths. It all started way back when, with the pizza as the biggest lie.  In the 911 call she stated, “I found my daughters car today, it smells like there’s been a dead body in the d*mn car.”  She stated pizza was the culprit of the smell. [Boy now pizza is getting a bad rap]  It was proven that no pizza was in the car, and documents show there had been a dead body in it.  Then her next little lie was about being a nurse of decomposition…yea she proved that she was a liar on that also.  Let’s not forget she gave LE the wrong toothbrush, claiming it was Caylee’s when it wasn’t…She is no more a nurse, then Baez is an attorney.  I find just because you have a license doesn’t mean anything with these nuts.

So her lies have continued, and in February 2010, that Mark NeJames was seeking her out, when in turn she actually seeked Mark out.  She sent an email to WTFV.com stating:  Late Wednesday morning, Cindy Anthony released the following statement via email regarding their relationship with NeJame: “We went to Mark NeJame for assistance in dealing with our rights to privacy. Mark will be handling any of our legal questions and concerns. [Larry Garrison is the Anthony family spokesperson.] Larry and Mark will be working together as a team for the family. Larry and I have agreed to let Mark clear up any questions regarding his role in assisting us legally.” Email

This was released 9 September 2008. Of course, we know Cindy’s memory, like Baez is short term. They remember nothing that is “TRUTH”.  Remember Larry Garrison, another one Cindy claims to have done her wrong.  Everyone is out to get these nuts, and Cindy she is just out to get her brat off of murder charges, even if she did murder Caylee. Cindy doesn’t care what she says, or does…..she is the only one who knows the truth!  NOT!  She has done nothing but cut everyone down who has tried to help.  Everyone is wrong, and everyone else lies.  Don’t believe me, just ask her.  This Cindy really needs to have some medical treatment.  Maybe a month in a rubber room would get her to start looking at reality, instead of looking for more lies.

Just for the record, Cindy has a few professions:  making blood money, lair, evidence hider, liar, attorney, liar, forensic expert, liar, nurse of decomposition, liar, photo expert, liar, fraudation owner, liar, Private investigator, liar, Law Enforcement officer, liar, detective, liar, media hound, liar, lazy disability collector, liar…the list goes on and on and on, but you see the pattern, don’t you?

If Cindy is so sure that Casey DIDN’T kill Caylee, and there is someone out there that did, why not use all the free offers you had to find this so called murderer?  WHY?  Well because she knows that Casey killed Caylee and that she wasn’t going to have to look into having someone else search and come to the same conclusion, that Casey killed Caylee.  Cindy knows the truth, and the truth has scared her into lying!  lol

I also have to add about the letters she sends Casey is nothing more than a sociopath [Persistent lying, lack of empathy for others, Poor behavioral controls — expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper, violate the boundaries and rights of others, Aggressive, often violent behavior] looking to get her letters out in the mail document dumps. She writes this crap to get everyone all fired up. Her letters really are not worth the paper or pen they are written.  She writes them to slam others, and for no other reason…

I do not feel sorry for Casey.  She is an adult, she could have really had a job, taken care of herself and Caylee.  Lived on her own and been out of that house of horrors.  All of this was brought on by Casey and her lies and stealing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 10, 2010, 11:48:23 PM
So NOW we get the REAL story on BOZO's latest motion. He did not abide by the court orders and did not make arrangements for the monitor to be paid like was required.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581670/detail.html
Nejames calls Baez lazy and not serious about the case. I wonder if Casey knows that?
Of she knows that does she believe it? 

Who is Sealock?

I love where it says that it is due to Casey's attorneys laziness, inattentiveness or lack of interest.

That pretty well nails exactly what has happened in this case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 11, 2010, 12:14:00 AM
Here is the invoice where BOZO had George's so called suicide investigated and witnesses on Florence Drive.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/47666170/Casey-Anthony-George-Anthony-investigated-1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: mizjay on August 11, 2010, 12:37:30 AM
Here is the invoice where BOZO had George's so called suicide investigated and witnesses on Florence Drive.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/47666170/Casey-Anthony-George-Anthony-investigated-1
Ole georgie better look long and hard at this............they're gonna trash him sooner or later.  If he thinks Cindy's going to protect him, he's wrong. She already started her betrayal at the last hearing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: mizjay on August 11, 2010, 12:40:04 AM
Here is the invoice where BOZO had George's so called suicide investigated and witnesses on Florence Drive.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/47666170/Casey-Anthony-George-Anthony-investigated-1
There is no need for an investigation regarding this if it was for mitigation purposes only. A personal account would suffice quite well   :smt117


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Deenie on August 11, 2010, 03:34:10 AM
Turbo

Speaking of -
The Foundation created by the Ants and their affiliations with KFN
I had to go back into my Monkey brain ..but I found the posts.
Brenda Black
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7374.msg1103864#msg1103864

Brenda Black is listed as President of Unity Spiritual Life Center
via Sunbiz.org
Brenda Black is listed as Title D ' Caylee Marie Anthony' Foundation = current I checked.

Links on the Unity Church site:
http://www.unitychurch.com/tp42/page.asp?ID=169981
still bugs me that they promote Eckhart Tolle within their store .. It's not business what they sell. Yet if you ask anyone who is a believer ( which ever form) they would say of Eckhart Tolle he is a Cult fixture. He was made infamous/famous by Oprah. Sigh.
The Unity " Spiritual Center" They I think, make their funding by being a organization - that they pool the donations of all people/churches within their org and are able to fund - each church. Again Tax Free and would be able to use " donations" any way they see fit.
 
Brenda Black's facebook still shows her as " Unity Spiritual Life Center" Fan
That Brenda is Title D on Caylee's Foundation - It raises Eyebrows ..
She/BB could float the money any which way~ Donations " that were sent to Caylee's Foundation" bury it in the Church ..monies ..and then cut a cashiers check/money order right back to the Anthony's .. NO Trace of money collected .. Easy as cake.
--
I want to know what is " Title D" a person named within a Non Profit in Florida?
Law's noted. http://law.justia.com/florida/codes/TitleXXXVI/ch0617.html
within the link copied: 617.0834  Officers and directors of certain corporations and associations not for profit; immunity from civil liability.
hmmph, must look further into this, me thinks. With all the " Letters" that have been released written to Casey ..by her " fans/friends/saviors" I have to believe that people are sending Money to the Caylee Foundation .. consistent still to this day. Many thinking that their money is going to Casey's defense.  So Disturbing beyond words. 
 :smt078 :gaah:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 06:09:29 AM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf
Thanks, Turbo.  I believe it's PB, also.  It would explain much about the A's being teflon.


It would also explain why after last year things started to go downhill for them and no money, since he was arrested. I have been trying to find the connection and I believe it is Mallory. I think she worked for him, but don't have it all together yet.

BINGO!!  I think you are right about the money and I will be interested in what you find out about the connection. May I ask why you think it is Mallory??  

Okay here is the Mallory connections...............

Sep 29, 2008
 
Google Mallory Parker:
About Mallory
Current
* Office Manager at Elite Jet Charter, LLC

Past
* Customer Service Representative at Sheltair
* customer service representative at sheltair
* customer service representative at executive air center
Education
* Valencia Community College

Let's see... I grew up on the Orlando Executive Airport and consider it to be my second home. Aviation runs in my family and I couldn't imagine doing something that didn't involve aircraft. I worked at one of the FBO's on the field for a total of 3 years before approached by Elite Jets.

I love to travel, cook and spend time with my friends and family.
About Elite Jets, LLC
Business Location: Orlando, Florida

Mallory worked with her best friend, Michelle.  Michelle's boyfriend/fiance was a charter jet pilot named Edgar, from Puerto Rico.*not sure if he was one of the pilots arrested who turned states evidence on PB or not as they were listed as CI)  IIRC he flew for the same company, either Elite Jet Charter, LLC (probable), or SheltAir (also possible).

Not sure, but this could be the same Michelle as Michelle Murphy, sometime roomie of Lee and Brian Luft(sp?), who knew about the "commando" mission to nab Casey on the night of July 3, but didn't go along for the fun... Michelle Murphy has been interviewed by LE.

Michelle (Mallory's bff) was a babysitter for two kids, per her myspace back in Sept/Oct.  She also has a friend/sister/cousin(?) who has kids -- they live in Sanford, where Casey told Matthew Crisp(sp?) that Caylee had a playdate.

Oh, also, Casey told LE on July 16 that Caylee liked to "try to run around Lake Underhill." On the map, this lake abuts the Executive Airport's runways to the south; looks like it's practically part of the airport property.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4867.msg774179#msg774179  My post from April 18, 2009.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 06:16:53 AM


Who is this "William" Cindy keeps referring to?

Also she is nucking futz if she thinks anyone is going to believe she dumped Nejame. Her email was ridiculous. She claims that NeJame called her into his office to withdraw as her attorney. Here's the unbelievable part, if she wanted to get rid of him, why would she then go on this song and dance with him in order for him to see her side of it so that he ended up asking her to keep him on? And why would he ask her to stay with him if he was the one who'd wanted to leave the association? Wouldn't he have just agreed not to terminate his services? The entire sentence from that crazy woman made NO SENSE!!!  ::MonkeyShovel::
Sorry if this has already been answered, just reading along to catch up...

William would be William Rivera, head of Never Lose Hope Foundation.

We were researching Peter/Pete/Pedro Benevides/Benavides back in April of 2009 here in the Caylee thread. 

NLH and PB's car company put up the reward money and did the questionable car raffle as a fundraiser.

William Rivera and PB seem to have been partners in a scammy or semi-scammy credit card debt company and a phone sex company, as well.

We discussed the money-laundering investigation at that time too, I believe.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 06:20:28 AM
Link where Cindy talks about William and Pete B: 
http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf



Also, at this link, it appears that the email Mark sent to the Anthonys via Brad, plus Cindy's reply, were emailed from Jose Baez to Beth Karas at Turner/CNN last month (July 2010).  But I'm not positive about that; just looks that way from the Yahoo header on the .pdf file at this link.

Back to reading...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 06:24:06 AM
this was part of the letter from Mark NeJame to sin-cin....

"Stop all of your silly and nonsensical ranting. It seems that you are fabricating matters in an effort to do whatever it takes to help Casey's defense, even if it means ignoring the truth about what really happened to Caylee. If you don't care about what happened to Caylee then just admit it. Stop twisting the truth and doing the bidding for her defense."

AMEN MARK!!!
I second that "AMEN!"

This quote of Mark's should be posted on a big billboard right across the street from the Anthonys' front door, IMO.  And lit up at night, too...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 06:38:03 AM
I am stuck....still trying to figure out that darn anticipated income..don't mind me....hattip...the world according/WS

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2010/02/casey-anthonys-parents-tried-to-replace-jose-baez/

Feb 17, 2010 ... Casey Anthony's Parents Tried To Replace Jose Baez

I remember this from back in February; it was when Marti McKenzie quit for lack of payment.

The writer says "early on in the case," and the attorney in question states that it was Conway who contacted him.  Conway started representing the A's right around the time Caylee's remains were discovered, yes?  Do we know the date when this guy was offered the job?  Just curious for timeline purposes; there was an awful lot going on behind the scenes in this case in November of 2008...

And also, from the article, re the "anticipated income" mentioned by the WS poster in the quoted post:

"Buonauro [the attorney they tried to hire for Casey] says Conway said Casey and her family were broke and, if he were willing to do without money up front, there was the possibility of some sort of defense fund or book or movie rights down the road.  Buonauro said no."

Pretty interesting.  I'm curious, too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 06:47:00 AM
::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

FYI: David Lohr has now joined insessions!!
That could be interesting.I will check it out.
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371174&page=24
  start here....his moniker is crimewriter7
Thank you Sunny  ::MonkeyKiss::
YW!!!  Gotta keep an eye on these people every minute! ::MonkeyDevil::
David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.
  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Pretty pitiful.  Is anyone reading at IS?  Do we know what Lohr has to say for himself re the plea deal discussion that NeJame says never happened?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 06:56:33 AM
And some more on Kid Finders and their connection with Pete B.

http://www.extremesearchandrescue.com/index.html

http://orlando.craigslist.org/search/jjj?query=interest%20rate
Resolutions center
Orlando, FL
407.591.9759
407-591-9759
NEAR SANDLAKE AND OBT
NEAR THE FASHION SQUARE MALL
Sand Lake Rd. & S. Orange Blossom Trail
407-844-4948
407-418-0235
http://resolutionscenter.com/site/default.aspx
Winter Park, FL
321-527-3445
321-527-3447
Resolutions Center, Corp.
7600 Southland Boulevard, Suite 101
Orlando, FL 32809
Phone: 877-696-1474
Fax: 321-214-0323
Email: csr@resolutionscenter.com

•  http://www.orlando.bbb.org/codbrep.html?wlcl=y&id=195753173
Primary Contact: Mr. Parrish Mateo (President)
Complaint Contact: Ms. Carol Ann (Compliance Department
from the orlando BBB
also know as:
Nationwide Marketing
Newport Equity
Resource Technology Center Corp.
RTC Solution Co
RTC, Inc
The Resolution Center
other locations:
1060 State Rd. 434, STE 156, Longwood, FL 32750, Seminole County
1583 E. Silver Star Rd., Ste 310, Ocoee, FL 34761, Orange County

•  http://www.orlando.bbb.org/codbrep.html?wlcl=y&id=195753173
Primary Contact: Mr. Parrish Mateo (President)
Complaint Contact: Ms. Carol Ann (Compliance Department
from the orlando BBB
also know as:
Nationwide Marketing
Newport Equity
Resource Technology Center Corp.
RTC Solution Co
RTC, Inc
The Resolution Center
other locations:
1060 State Rd. 434, STE 156, Longwood, FL 32750, Seminole County
1583 E. Silver Star Rd., Ste 310, Ocoee, FL 34761, Orange County

From April 2009 SM Caylee discussion, to add to this topic:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4867.msg774866#msg774866

Discussed:  Details regarding the connections between Matteo, William Rivera, P Benevides, NLH Foundation, KidFinders, and the raffle SNAFU...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 07:03:02 AM
Some new witnesses added to the State witness list.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581575/detail.html
Thanks for posting this.

Captain Greg Cole is a Gulf County Sheriff's Office cadaver dog handler who was sent to participate in Caylee searches in the summer of 2008, including on Suburban Drive near the school.  He told OCSO about the high water levels he witnessed in the area.

Erica Gonzalez (interesting last name) was a Shot Girl at Fusian who Casey befriended.  The interesting point in her testimony is that she claims that on a phone call with Casey on July 15, 2008, while Casey was on the way to the airport to pick up Amy, she heard Casey say "Sit down, Caylee" or something like that.  Phone records jive.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 11, 2010, 07:40:44 AM
http://www.wesh.com/r/24584795/detail.html
Testimony: Casey Anthony Was Offered Plea Deal
Defense Wants Names Of Volunteers Who Searched Area Where Caylee Was Found
POSTED: 6:50 pm EDT August 10, 2010
UPDATED: 7:04 am EDT August 11, 2010
Testimony: Casey Anthony Was Offered Plea DealORLANDO, Fla. -- Newly released testimony from a journalist who searched the area where the remains of Caylee Anthony were found reveals Casey Anthony may have been offered a plea deal.
Updates On Facebook   http://www.facebook.com/caseyupdates
Special Section   
http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Newly released testimony from a journalist who searched the area where the remains of Caylee Anthony were found reveals Casey Anthony may have been offered a plea deal.

Video posted on YouTube shows volunteers with Texas Equusearch searching an area off of Suburban Drive in August of 2008.
In a recorded statement just one week ago, the man who shot the YouTube video, journalist David Lohr, claimed he was sent that day to Suburban Drive, the same area where Caylee’s body was discovered in December of 2008.

Lohr said he was one of a dozen volunteers searching around the area.

Lohr also claimed he heard Casey was offered a deal for 10 years if she would reveal where Caylee was.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 11, 2010, 07:46:43 AM
http://callsforjustice.wordpress.com/2010/08/11/casey-anthony-and-muffin-wont-be-rving-anytime-soon/
Casey Anthony And Muffin Won’t Be RVing Anytime Soon
08/11/2010 donchais



http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony To Lose Drivers License
08/11/10


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 08:26:01 AM
Hate to bring this OLD post forward but we received an email from Drew Kesse clarifying the Kidsfinder stuff.  Drew and Harlee have both asked to have their names removed from the Kidsfinders site after they realized that the Milsteads were felons.  The Milsteads have so far refused to remove the names:

I am still stuck on KFN ...like everyone else.
KFN shows this as their current license active address: 1740 E Rd #B Loxahatchee, FL 33470. I tried to map it. Its just a big field on a dirt road. No sign of humans or structures.
It shows these people listed that are KFN on this site:
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Loxahatchee/sherri-milstead-P1892833.aspx
Sherri Milstead
Related People:
    * Bobby J Vanover - this man comes up in searches that his little girl drown/family incident
    * Dennis Milstead
    * James Riddle
    * Karen Groover
    * Kari M Milstead
    * Linda Tinelli
    * Malori J Milstead
    * Mischa Tuttle - this is wife  of Vanover listed above, Daughter drown :(
    * Sheri McCandless


Sherry Milstead & Sheri McCandless are the SAME PERSON
.

Good Morning Monks!  Turbo, thanks for sharing this info....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 08:26:37 AM
So NOW we get the REAL story on BOZO's latest motion. He did not abide by the court orders and did not make arrangements for the monitor to be paid like was required.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581670/detail.html

Yeppers!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 11, 2010, 09:01:51 AM
::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

FYI: David Lohr has now joined insessions!!
That could be interesting.I will check it out.
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371174&page=24
  start here....his moniker is crimewriter7
Thank you Sunny  ::MonkeyKiss::
YW!!!  Gotta keep an eye on these people every minute! ::MonkeyDevil::
David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.
  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Pretty pitiful.  Is anyone reading at IS?  Do we know what Lohr has to say for himself re the plea deal discussion that NeJame says never happened?
Hey Desi  ::HelloKitty::
Sunny said he goes by crimwriter7.
Here is where I saw him posting.  http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371174&page=24


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 09:02:16 AM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf
Thanks, Turbo.  I believe it's PB, also.  It would explain much about the A's being teflon.


It would also explain why after last year things started to go downhill for them and no money, since he was arrested. I have been trying to find the connection and I believe it is Mallory. I think she worked for him, but don't have it all together yet.

BINGO!!  I think you are right about the money and I will be interested in what you find out about the connection. May I ask why you think it is Mallory??  

Okay here is the Mallory connections...............

Sep 29, 2008
 
Google Mallory Parker:
About Mallory
Current
* Office Manager at Elite Jet Charter, LLC

Past
* Customer Service Representative at Sheltair
* customer service representative at sheltair
* customer service representative at executive air center
Education
* Valencia Community College

Let's see... I grew up on the Orlando Executive Airport and consider it to be my second home. Aviation runs in my family and I couldn't imagine doing something that didn't involve aircraft. I worked at one of the FBO's on the field for a total of 3 years before approached by Elite Jets.

I love to travel, cook and spend time with my friends and family.
About Elite Jets, LLC
Business Location: Orlando, Florida

Mallory worked with her best friend, Michelle.  Michelle's boyfriend/fiance was a charter jet pilot named Edgar, from Puerto Rico.*not sure if he was one of the pilots arrested who turned states evidence on PB or not as they were listed as CI)  IIRC he flew for the same company, either Elite Jet Charter, LLC (probable), or SheltAir (also possible).

Not sure, but this could be the same Michelle as Michelle Murphy, sometime roomie of Lee and Brian Luft(sp?), who knew about the "commando" mission to nab Casey on the night of July 3, but didn't go along for the fun... Michelle Murphy has been interviewed by LE.

Michelle (Mallory's bff) was a babysitter for two kids, per her myspace back in Sept/Oct.  She also has a friend/sister/cousin(?) who has kids -- they live in Sanford, where Casey told Matthew Crisp(sp?) that Caylee had a playdate.

Oh, also, Casey told LE on July 16 that Caylee liked to "try to run around Lake Underhill." On the map, this lake abuts the Executive Airport's runways to the south; looks like it's practically part of the airport property.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4867.msg774179#msg774179  My post from April 18, 2009.

DESI!! ::MonkeyCheer4::  thanks@!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 09:05:56 AM
this was part of the letter from Mark NeJame to sin-cin....

"Stop all of your silly and nonsensical ranting. It seems that you are fabricating matters in an effort to do whatever it takes to help Casey's defense, even if it means ignoring the truth about what really happened to Caylee. If you don't care about what happened to Caylee then just admit it. Stop twisting the truth and doing the bidding for her defense."

AMEN MARK!!!
I second that "AMEN!"

This quote of Mark's should be posted on a big billboard right across the street from the Anthonys' front door, IMO.  And lit up at night, too...

What a terrific idea!~  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 09:10:36 AM
I am stuck....still trying to figure out that darn anticipated income..don't mind me....hattip...the world according/WS

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2010/02/casey-anthonys-parents-tried-to-replace-jose-baez/

Feb 17, 2010 ... Casey Anthony's Parents Tried To Replace Jose Baez

I remember this from back in February; it was when Marti McKenzie quit for lack of payment.

The writer says "early on in the case," and the attorney in question states that it was Conway who contacted him.  Conway started representing the A's right around the time Caylee's remains were discovered, yes?  Do we know the date when this guy was offered the job?  Just curious for timeline purposes; there was an awful lot going on behind the scenes in this case in November of 2008...

And also, from the article, re the "anticipated income" mentioned by the WS poster in the quoted post:

"Buonauro [the attorney they tried to hire for Casey] says Conway said Casey and her family were broke and, if he were willing to do without money up front, there was the possibility of some sort of defense fund or book or movie rights down the road.  Buonauro said no."

Pretty interesting.  I'm curious, too.

I just can't see the bank working out a new mortgage on the anticipated income UNLESS there is some sort of signed contract..there has to be SOMETHING other than the A's word. Not if and when they get jobs..My niece just refinanced their home and the bank wants proof of everything including at letter from the company she works for verifying that she will get a substantial raise when she is officially promoted on 9/1/10.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 09:11:59 AM
::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

FYI: David Lohr has now joined insessions!!
That could be interesting.I will check it out.
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371174&page=24
  start here....his moniker is crimewriter7
Thank you Sunny  ::MonkeyKiss::
YW!!!  Gotta keep an eye on these people every minute! ::MonkeyDevil::
David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.
  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Pretty pitiful.  Is anyone reading at IS?  Do we know what Lohr has to say for himself re the plea deal discussion that NeJame says never happened?

desi, I read some yesterday...just happened to be be reading when he posted his first post....I haven't been over there today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 09:17:09 AM
http://callsforjustice.wordpress.com/2010/08/11/casey-anthony-and-muffin-wont-be-rving-anytime-soon/
Casey Anthony And Muffin Won’t Be RVing Anytime Soon
08/11/2010 donchais



http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony To Lose Drivers License
08/11/10


Good Morning trim....thanks...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 09:24:55 AM
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2010/08/jose-baez-and-cheney-mason-still.html

this is a good read....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 09:29:00 AM
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/7488005/Casey-Anthony-Cindy-Anthonys-email-about-the-hair-brush

this is how sin-cin rationalizes her actions..... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on August 11, 2010, 09:34:27 AM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf

I hit send too fast...........I also meant to add SMACKDOWN CINDY by NeJames........what a letter.

That letter was the best I have read in many moons.

Excellent.

Wow, just wow!  What an excellet letter from NeJame.  (Sorry, I'm far behind in reading posts.)




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 09:52:08 AM
David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.
  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Pretty pitiful.  Is anyone reading at IS?  Do we know what Lohr has to say for himself re the plea deal discussion that NeJame says never happened?
Hey Desi  ::HelloKitty::
Sunny said he goes by crimwriter7.
Here is where I saw him posting.  http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371174&page=24
Thanks, Trimm!
(I was being lazy; asking if anyone had taken the time to read over there, as I have not!  LOL)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 11, 2010, 09:57:20 AM
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2010/08/jose-baez-and-cheney-mason-still.html

this is a good read....

Hey Sunny!  ::rhino::
I'll check it out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on August 11, 2010, 10:01:29 AM
http://callsforjustice.wordpress.com/2010/08/10/casey-anthony-circus-car-crashes-injures-two-clowns/
Casey Anthony Circus Car Crashes, Injures Two Clowns    ::MonkeyHaHa::
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OMG.............that is hilarious. The funny thing is which they point out is there is NO LEGAL basis for the motion.............Just Cindy said............

Monkeys...........we have missed the boat....We should be ashamed we missed it .....

We did not realize that what Cindy says is now a legal precedent. ROFLMAO!

We need a KC Circus Car with a Flat Tire that we can post at times like this...and there will me many more and more often as the trial appoaches and during the trial!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: klaasend on August 11, 2010, 10:06:29 AM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf

I hit send too fast...........I also meant to add SMACKDOWN CINDY by NeJames........what a letter.

That letter was the best I have read in many moons.

Excellent.

Wow, just wow!  What an excellet letter from NeJame.  (Sorry, I'm far behind in reading posts.)




(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub9%20June%202010/NeJameLetterAnthonys.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Scatty on August 11, 2010, 10:06:59 AM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf
Thanks, Turbo.  I believe it's PB, also.  It would explain much about the A's being teflon.


It would also explain why after last year things started to go downhill for them and no money, since he was arrested. I have been trying to find the connection and I believe it is Mallory. I think she worked for him, but don't have it all together yet.

BINGO!!  I think you are right about the money and I will be interested in what you find out about the connection. May I ask why you think it is Mallory??  

Okay here is the Mallory connections...............

Sep 29, 2008
 
Google Mallory Parker:
About Mallory
Current
* Office Manager at Elite Jet Charter, LLC

Past
* Customer Service Representative at Sheltair
* customer service representative at sheltair
* customer service representative at executive air center
Education
* Valencia Community College

Let's see... I grew up on the Orlando Executive Airport and consider it to be my second home. Aviation runs in my family and I couldn't imagine doing something that didn't involve aircraft. I worked at one of the FBO's on the field for a total of 3 years before approached by Elite Jets.

I love to travel, cook and spend time with my friends and family.
About Elite Jets, LLC
Business Location: Orlando, Florida

Mallory worked with her best friend, Michelle.  Michelle's boyfriend/fiance was a charter jet pilot named Edgar, from Puerto Rico.*not sure if he was one of the pilots arrested who turned states evidence on PB or not as they were listed as CI)  IIRC he flew for the same company, either Elite Jet Charter, LLC (probable), or SheltAir (also possible).

Not sure, but this could be the same Michelle as Michelle Murphy, sometime roomie of Lee and Brian Luft(sp?), who knew about the "commando" mission to nab Casey on the night of July 3, but didn't go along for the fun... Michelle Murphy has been interviewed by LE.

Michelle (Mallory's bff) was a babysitter for two kids, per her myspace back in Sept/Oct.  She also has a friend/sister/cousin(?) who has kids -- they live in Sanford, where Casey told Matthew Crisp(sp?) that Caylee had a playdate.

Oh, also, Casey told LE on July 16 that Caylee liked to "try to run around Lake Underhill." On the map, this lake abuts the Executive Airport's runways to the south; looks like it's practically part of the airport property.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4867.msg774179#msg774179  My post from April 18, 2009.

Des! you had the goods on PB waaaay back!  ::MonkeyDance:: Sleuthers like you make me proud to be a monkey, girl!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 10:11:32 AM
I notice that I hadn't seen Linda Kenney Baden on any of the motions rants from the dufense for ages....we haven't seen her in court either...this is the last document I have been able to find to far. 


http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23621537/detail.html

Supplemental Motion to Compel Forensic Discovery  dated 5/18/10

Even on the July 22, 2010 Notice of Deposition for Dr. Vass, she is not copied

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/48545521/07262010-Defense-Bodyfarm-Depo-Notice

What is going on?  She would have to file with the court to withdraw and I haven't been able to find anything.  I am beginning to think something stinks in the outhouse~~



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 10:13:56 AM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf

I hit send too fast...........I also meant to add SMACKDOWN CINDY by NeJames........what a letter.

That letter was the best I have read in many moons.

Excellent.

Wow, just wow!  What an excellet letter from NeJame.  (Sorry, I'm far behind in reading posts.)




(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub9%20June%202010/NeJameLetterAnthonys.jpg)

Klaas ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 10:15:20 AM
Scatty, Sunny   ::MonkeyKiss::

And as for LKB, she seems to have dropped off the face of the earth...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 10:27:55 AM
http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/High-Profile-Cases/Anthony/Anthony.shtml
This is a good tool when you are trying to find something specific...most of the time is only a week or so behind

Copies of motions, orders, notices and objections found on the courthouse website.


State of Florida vs Casey Marie Anthony
Case No. 48-2008-CF-015606-O

Orders         Motions         Replies/Responses          Notices        Objections
Orders

    * Order Denying Motion to Declare §921.141 and/or the §921.141(5)(D) Standard Instruction Unconstituional Facially and as Applied and to Preclude Their Application at Bar 8-6-2010
    * Order Denying Motion to Declare §921.141 Unconstitutional for Inadequate Appellate Review 8-6-2010
    * Order Denying Motion to Declare §921.141 Unconstitutional Due to its Failure to Narrow the Scope of the Death Penalty 8-6-2010
    * Order Denying Motion to Declare §921.141(5)(L) Unconstitutional Facially and as Applied and to Preclude its use in the Case at Bar 8-6-2010
    * Order Denying Motion to Declare §921.141(5)(M) Unconstitutional Facially and as Applied 8-6-2010
    * Order Denying Motion to Declare §921.141(5)(I) and to Preclude its use in the Present Case 8-6-2010
    * Order Denying Motion to Declare §921.141(5)(H) and/or the §921.141(5)(H) Standard Instruction Unconstitutional Facially and as Applied 8-6-2010
    * Order Denying Motion to Declare §921.141 Unconstitutional Because it Improperly Shifts Burden of Proof the the Defendant, Thereby Creating a Presumption of Death 8-6-2010
    * Order Denying Motion for Protective Order Regarding Telephone Recording of Robin Lunceford 8-2-2010
SNIPPED FOR SPACE
    * Defendant's Reply to State's Response to Motion to Preclude Death Procedures 10-2009

Notices

    * Notice of Conflict 5-29-2010
    * Notice of Hearing 5-28-2010
    * Second Amended Notice of Hearing 5-26-2010
    * Notice of Filing 2-2010

Objections

    * Objection to Release of Documents Related to Intended Defense Review of Evidence 7-12-2010
    * Objection to Court's Order on Defendant's Motion to Disqualify Trial Judge 4-30-2010
    * Written Objection to the Standard Jury Instruction on Reasonable Doubt 11-25-2009

   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 10:28:56 AM
Scatty, Sunny   ::MonkeyKiss::

And as for LKB, she seems to have dropped off the face of the earth...

Yep...you would think she would be copied on all motions, orders etc....and nothing that I can find since May....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 10:57:28 AM
Regarding the Sherri Milstead / Sheri McCandless business, I have not dug too deep, but they seem like two different people from what I can tell.  Sheri McCandless in Palm Beach seems to be the one on the board of directors for Kidfinders, and as you can see in her Facebook profile, she is not Sherri Milstead.  But I could be wrong about this.

Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/sherimFL

Membership committee for Association of Fundraising Professionals:
http://www.afppbc.org/Membership-Committee

She and Hugh McCandless are the principals of this business in Palm Beach:
http://www.bettercopycenter.com/index.htm

However, on this profile, Kidfinders is named only as a "possible related company:"
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/West-Palm-Beach/sheri-mccandless/36044701.aspx

Maybe she wishes to distance herself from the Kidfinders limelight?

Note the different spellings:  Sherri vs. Sheri.  I could be wrong, but I think there are two different Sher(r)i's associated with KidFinders.


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On another note, that last name, McCandless, has come up elsewhere in the case, though.  Check out this SM post from misitx5 way back in September 2008:
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #27
« Reply #404 on: September 20, 2008, 05:01:48 PM »

   
Okay question please tell me how common the last name McCandless is in Florida..

Deborah McCandless, VP Operations: for Gameday....

Remember that ad on craigslist going around that said casey had connection to a guy name Craig McCandless from a fight club....I looked in that website that supposedly had Casey's pic on it and I thought the site was BS...

So I was wondering how popular that last name is..

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Gameday is Lee Anthony's employer...

I don't believe the Craig McCandless thing was ever proven...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 11:01:13 AM

Just to be clear, this is the copy/paste of the SM post I just quoted, from September 2008:

Quote
Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #27
« Reply #404 on: September 20, 2008, 05:01:48 PM »
   
Okay question please tell me how common the last name McCandless is in Florida..

Deborah McCandless, VP Operations: for Gameday....

Remember that ad on craigslist going around that said casey had connection to a guy name Craig McCandless from a fight club....I looked in that website that supposedly had Casey's pic on it and I thought the site was BS...

So I was wondering how popular that last name is..
and this is the link:  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3413.msg463108#msg463108


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 11:02:59 AM
Scatty, Sunny   ::MonkeyKiss::

And as for LKB, she seems to have dropped off the face of the earth...

Yep...you would think she would be copied on all motions, orders etc....and nothing that I can find since May....
Has LKB even shown her face in Florida since the Indigency hearing back in March? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Curly on August 11, 2010, 11:09:28 AM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html

This is Lohrs blog

That was his blog. It's my understanding that he was let go from there and is now with AOL news.
I remember that he was very close with Sean Krause (may he rest in peace). Can't remember the name of Sean's website, but I know it's now defunct.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Curly on August 11, 2010, 11:10:15 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/24579474/detail.html

Casey Anthony To Lose Drivers License
Clerk Asks State To Suspend License For Failing To Pay Court Costs

POSTED: Tuesday, August 10, 2010
UPDATED: 7:14 pm EDT August 10, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony has failed to pay court costs ordered by a judge, according to the Orange County Clerk of Courts.

On Saturday, the clerk turned over the $381 overdue bill to a collection agency. The clerk has also sent a notice to the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles requesting that Anthony's drivers license be suspended until the debt is paid.

In January, Anthony pleaded guilty to stealing checks from her former friend Amy Huizenga.

Judge Stan Strickland sentenced Anthony to 412 days in jail, which she had already served while incarcerated up on murder charges.

The judge also ordered Anthony to pay $348 in court costs, which were to be paid in full by the end of April.

According to court clerk records, Anthony never paid those costs, as well as more than $30 in late fees.

Under Florida law, the state can suspend a defendant's drivers license if they fail to make timely court-ordered payments.

Casey Anthony's father has expressed interest in his daughter retaining her driving privileges while she's locked up in jail. In a March 2009 letter, George Anthony asked his daughter to sign some drivers license paperwork that he had given to her attorney. "Please, we need that signed," George Anthony wrote. "If not, your license is void and you would have to take all the tests again."

In addition to court costs, the Orange County Sheriff's Office submitted a $5517.75 bill for "investigative costs" associated with the check fraud case. Anthony's attorneys have disputed that amount, and so far a judge has not ordered Anthony to pay those costs.



I really don't think this is going to be a problem....she will never drive again EVER!  IMO ::MonkeyNoNo::



Hahaha. I was tempted to put Casey in a baby car and have her driving in circles in her cell.

 ::MonkeyGavel::

Lol! Do it!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Curly on August 11, 2010, 11:11:59 AM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html

This is Lohrs blog

Wasn't he Sean Krause's uncle?

It's my understanding that they were not related. Just close friends.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 11:37:47 AM
Curly, David's bio does indeed say that he has "left" the Investigation Discovery network as of January 2010, when he joined AOL News.

However, I just looked and there are a couple of posts on ID written by him, dated July 27, 2010.  Here is one on the Natalee case.  So I'm not sure whether he is still occasionally writing for ID.
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2010/07/remembering-natalee-holloways-case-as-joran-van-der-sloots-story-unravels.html


It seems that the "Uncle David" bit was apparently a long-running inside joke on Sean Krause's part.  Most people believed it for a long time.

Quote from Lohr's blog post on the occasion of Sean's death:
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2009/02/sean-krause.html

I never got to say goodbye to Sean, and it is not easy for me to accept that. He did, however, say goodbye in a message that he left for me just before he passed on. When I first started this article, I was thinking that I would not share the message; however, after giving it some thought, I decided to anyway, as I found his message to be very heartfelt and touching. Those of you who never read his blog won't understand the meaning of it, but those who did will understand the "joke" he was referring to.

"David, I know the joke about you being my uncle may have gone a bit too far, but I really wish I had an uncle like you. Actually, I consider you a brother."

I too considered him a brother.


(Sorry for the o/t, Monkeys.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 11:39:25 AM
(link to David Lohr's bio information cited above)
http://www.davidlohr.net/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 11, 2010, 11:48:09 AM
Scatty, Sunny   ::MonkeyKiss::

And as for LKB, she seems to have dropped off the face of the earth...

Name Linda Kenney Baden
Bio My focus is on criminal and civil rights cases: e.g. against the State of NJ for racial profiling. Also have handled a number of high profile criminal matters.
http://twitter.com/kenneybaden


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 11:55:32 AM
And as for LKB, she seems to have dropped off the face of the earth...

Name Linda Kenney Baden
Bio My focus is on criminal and civil rights cases: e.g. against the State of NJ for racial profiling. Also have handled a number of high profile criminal matters.
http://twitter.com/kenneybaden
Ha. Thanks, Northern Rose.  So we know she is alive and tweeting, at least as of August 4. 

 ::MonkeyRoll:: Wonder whether or not this case will remain among the "number of high profile criminal matters" she refers to.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 11, 2010, 12:04:57 PM
And as for LKB, she seems to have dropped off the face of the earth...

Name Linda Kenney Baden
Bio My focus is on criminal and civil rights cases: e.g. against the State of NJ for racial profiling. Also have handled a number of high profile criminal matters.
http://twitter.com/kenneybaden
Ha. Thanks, Northern Rose.  So we know she is alive and tweeting, at least as of August 4. 

 ::MonkeyRoll:: Wonder whether or not this case will remain among the "number of high profile criminal matters" she refers to.

Williams over alcohol limit
<snipped>

Defense lawyer Linda Kenney Baden said Wednesday "there are a lot of issues" in contention, including whether Williams was driving. He initially told police the driver had left the accident scene, but prosecutors say surveillance video and witnesses establish that he was alone in the car.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4922869


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 12:06:14 PM

Just to be clear, this is the copy/paste of the SM post I just quoted, from September 2008:

Quote
Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #27
« Reply #404 on: September 20, 2008, 05:01:48 PM »
   
Okay question please tell me how common the last name McCandless is in Florida..

Deborah McCandless, VP Operations: for Gameday....

Remember that ad on craigslist going around that said casey had connection to a guy name Craig McCandless from a fight club....I looked in that website that supposedly had Casey's pic on it and I thought the site was BS...

So I was wondering how popular that last name is..
and this is the link:  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3413.msg463108#msg463108

desi, again thanks for sharing your research with us....sometimes we need a spread sheet just to keep everyone straight


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 11, 2010, 12:07:35 PM
SUNY rebuts racial claims; NCAA to question Broadus; Macon deal extended
<snipped>

Broadus' New York-based attorney, Linda Kenney-Baden, said Broadus was told by sources at the university -- not administrators -- that the extension was for a period of two years, an indication the school is in no rush to reinstate Broadus. Glover could not confirm the extension period.

http://www.pressconnects.com/article/20100426/NEWS01/4260378/SUNY+rebuts+racial+claims++NCAA+to+question+Broadus++Macon+contract+extended


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 12:10:16 PM
Scatty, Sunny   ::MonkeyKiss::

And as for LKB, she seems to have dropped off the face of the earth...

Yep...you would think she would be copied on all motions, orders etc....and nothing that I can find since May....
Has LKB even shown her face in Florida since the Indigency hearing back in March? 

that is the last time!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2010, 12:13:20 PM
Scatty, Sunny   ::MonkeyKiss::

And as for LKB, she seems to have dropped off the face of the earth...

Yep...you would think she would be copied on all motions, orders etc....and nothing that I can find since May....
Has LKB even shown her face in Florida since the Indigency hearing back in March? 

that is the last time!!
My crystal ball says LKB will be leaving the defense team, why would she ruin her reputation on this case, I keep asking myself.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: mizjay on August 11, 2010, 12:20:52 PM
Scatty, Sunny   ::MonkeyKiss::

And as for LKB, she seems to have dropped off the face of the earth...

Yep...you would think she would be copied on all motions, orders etc....and nothing that I can find since May....
Has LKB even shown her face in Florida since the Indigency hearing back in March? 

that is the last time!!

IMO baez and co. are just chumming the waters with their enemies for something to do until their game is up. Sooner or later I think they'll try to present some version of an accident, try to get a deal. Maybe the State will say no, but I doubt it. Until then, this is all free publicitry and networking time for bozo. Why not use the State's money to cultivate your media resources and make this thing so sensational that your client's ATTY is in the news, not the case, the atty!. LKB has probably not "left" the team, but isn't going to try and use this interim to gain notoriety from this mess.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Mary on August 11, 2010, 12:46:07 PM
I don't know what date it is, but LKB has a meeting at the body farm with Dr Vass
and Ashton this month. I do not have a link for this. I thought she had quit also,
but I guess not. But I do think that the time she is putting into this is limited.
She hasn't been paid anything on this case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 11, 2010, 01:07:03 PM
I wonder if anyone else caught this............or if it is even Peter Benevides. but I tend to think it is.........

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/0809_ExhibitC.pdf
Thanks, Turbo.  I believe it's PB, also.  It would explain much about the A's being teflon.


It would also explain why after last year things started to go downhill for them and no money, since he was arrested. I have been trying to find the connection and I believe it is Mallory. I think she worked for him, but don't have it all together yet.

BINGO!!  I think you are right about the money and I will be interested in what you find out about the connection. May I ask why you think it is Mallory?? 

Okay here is the Mallory connections...............

Sep 29, 2008
 
Google Mallory Parker:
About Mallory
Current
* Office Manager at Elite Jet Charter, LLC

Past
* Customer Service Representative at Sheltair
* customer service representative at sheltair
* customer service representative at executive air center
Education
* Valencia Community College

Let's see... I grew up on the Orlando Executive Airport and consider it to be my second home. Aviation runs in my family and I couldn't imagine doing something that didn't involve aircraft. I worked at one of the FBO's on the field for a total of 3 years before approached by Elite Jets.

I love to travel, cook and spend time with my friends and family.
About Elite Jets, LLC
Business Location: Orlando, Florida

Mallory worked with her best friend, Michelle.  Michelle's boyfriend/fiance was a charter jet pilot named Edgar, from Puerto Rico.*not sure if he was one of the pilots arrested who turned states evidence on PB or not as they were listed as CI)  IIRC he flew for the same company, either Elite Jet Charter, LLC (probable), or SheltAir (also possible).

Not sure, but this could be the same Michelle as Michelle Murphy, sometime roomie of Lee and Brian Luft(sp?), who knew about the "commando" mission to nab Casey on the night of July 3, but didn't go along for the fun... Michelle Murphy has been interviewed by LE.

Michelle (Mallory's bff) was a babysitter for two kids, per her myspace back in Sept/Oct.  She also has a friend/sister/cousin(?) who has kids -- they live in Sanford, where Casey told Matthew Crisp(sp?) that Caylee had a playdate.

Oh, also, Casey told LE on July 16 that Caylee liked to "try to run around Lake Underhill." On the map, this lake abuts the Executive Airport's runways to the south; looks like it's practically part of the airport property.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4867.msg774179#msg774179  My post from April 18, 2009.

Sorry I did not give you credit on that if that was yours originally but I had it in my "notebook" from a WS link to DocStoc dated 7/08  for my notes and someone had asked how Mallory was connected to PB. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 11, 2010, 01:08:09 PM
I don't know what date it is, but LKB has a meeting at the body farm with Dr Vass
and Ashton this month. I do not have a link for this. I thought she had quit also,
but I guess not. But I do think that the time she is putting into this is limited.
She hasn't been paid anything on this case.

IIRC the depositions were rescheduled for the 21st of Sept. in Knoxville


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 11, 2010, 01:10:53 PM
Scatty, Sunny   ::MonkeyKiss::

And as for LKB, she seems to have dropped off the face of the earth...

Yep...you would think she would be copied on all motions, orders etc....and nothing that I can find since May....
Has LKB even shown her face in Florida since the Indigency hearing back in March? 

that is the last time!!

IMO baez and co. are just chumming the waters with their enemies for something to do until their game is up. Sooner or later I think they'll try to present some version of an accident, try to get a deal. Maybe the State will say no, but I doubt it. Until then, this is all free publicitry and networking time for bozo. Why not use the State's money to cultivate your media resources and make this thing so sensational that your client's ATTY is in the news, not the case, the atty!. LKB has probably not "left" the team, but isn't going to try and use this interim to gain notoriety from this mess.

I think that is all they are doing........just biding their time, milking the state for money and then going to have her plead no contest to save her from the DP. I am personally glad she will end up in jail for the rest of her life, but NeJames was right in the beginning BOZO was not qualified to handle this case. She should have plead this down in the beginning and she would have been out of jail in her 30s.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 11, 2010, 01:19:30 PM
Regarding the Sherri Milstead / Sheri McCandless business, I have not dug too deep, but they seem like two different people from what I can tell.  Sheri McCandless in Palm Beach seems to be the one on the board of directors for Kidfinders, and as you can see in her Facebook profile, she is not Sherri Milstead.  But I could be wrong about this.

Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/sherimFL

Membership committee for Association of Fundraising Professionals:
http://www.afppbc.org/Membership-Committee

She and Hugh McCandless are the principals of this business in Palm Beach:
http://www.bettercopycenter.com/index.htm

However, on this profile, Kidfinders is named only as a "possible related company:"
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/West-Palm-Beach/sheri-mccandless/36044701.aspx

Maybe she wishes to distance herself from the Kidfinders limelight?

Note the different spellings:  Sherri vs. Sheri.  I could be wrong, but I think there are two different Sher(r)i's associated with KidFinders.


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On another note, that last name, McCandless, has come up elsewhere in the case, though.  Check out this SM post from misitx5 way back in September 2008:
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #27
« Reply #404 on: September 20, 2008, 05:01:48 PM »

   
Okay question please tell me how common the last name McCandless is in Florida..

Deborah McCandless, VP Operations: for Gameday....

Remember that ad on craigslist going around that said casey had connection to a guy name Craig McCandless from a fight club....I looked in that website that supposedly had Casey's pic on it and I thought the site was BS...

So I was wondering how popular that last name is..

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Gameday is Lee Anthony's employer...

I don't believe the Craig McCandless thing was ever proven...

I found in the early property listings where Sheri Milstead and Sherri McCandless were the same person. One business or property listing even had Sheri McCandless-Milstead as an owner.

Unfortunately, that is on my other computer which crashed, but I will ask Blink as we both had copies of all of those property transfers. The one on face book is not the right age for the one listed in that investigation we did. That may be Sheri Milstead's brother's wife though. Her family was listed as McCandless and that is why some people thought there might be a connection with that FC Craig McCandless.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 01:20:52 PM
I don't know what date it is, but LKB has a meeting at the body farm with Dr Vass
and Ashton this month. I do not have a link for this. I thought she had quit also,
but I guess not. But I do think that the time she is putting into this is limited.
She hasn't been paid anything on this case.

 
Hi Mary, please explain what you mean by a meeting at the body farm w/ Dr. Vass and Mr. Ashton. Are you referring to the deposition?  If so, Dr. Vass and the other 4 persons from the body farm depos have been rescheduled to 9/21 an 9/22.  I noted earlier that LKB was not on the notice....which seems strange since we all assume she will be there for the depos. But then again, the duffense seems to do things their way... As far as her not being paid....that was her decision to sign on pro bono. No sympathy from me for her on that one ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 01:21:42 PM
I don't know what date it is, but LKB has a meeting at the body farm with Dr Vass
and Ashton this month. I do not have a link for this. I thought she had quit also,
but I guess not. But I do think that the time she is putting into this is limited.
She hasn't been paid anything on this case.

IIRC the depositions were rescheduled for the 21st of Sept. in Knoxville


ooopssss I should have read ahead!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 01:22:34 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html

This is Lohrs blog

Wasn't he Sean Krause's uncle?

It's my understanding that they were not related. Just close friends.

hi curly!  yep mine too


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 11, 2010, 01:25:00 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/24593241/detail.html
Casey Anthony Could Lose Driver's License
License Could Be Suspended Because Of Unpaid Court Fees
POSTED: 11:56 am EDT August 11, 2010
UPDATED: 12:42 pm EDT August 11, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony’s driver's license could be suspended, court records show.

Anthony pleaded guilty in January to 13 counts in a check fraud case and was ordered to pay certain court costs.
The costs have yet to be paid in their entirety, so the Orange County Clerk of Courts forwarded the outstanding balance of $381 to a collection agency on Saturday.

The clerk also sent a notice to suspend Anthony’s driving privileges.

The state of Florida can suspend driver's licenses for a variety of reasons, including unpaid court fees.
Anthony’s check fraud charges stemmed from surveillance video that authorities said showed her at local stores and banks spending more than $600 of her friend Amy Huizenga’s money while Caylee was missing.

Anthony’s vehicle is currently in the custody of the Orange County Sheriff’s Office as evidence in Caylee’s disappearance


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 01:25:24 PM
Scatty, Sunny   ::MonkeyKiss::

And as for LKB, she seems to have dropped off the face of the earth...

Yep...you would think she would be copied on all motions, orders etc....and nothing that I can find since May....
Has LKB even shown her face in Florida since the Indigency hearing back in March? 

that is the last time!!
My crystal ball says LKB will be leaving the defense team, why would she ruin her reputation on this case, I keep asking myself.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

hi nrcg....IMO she might stay on just to have someone knowledgeable about forensics, if it goes to trial.   But at this point who knows....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 01:35:06 PM
Scatty, Sunny   ::MonkeyKiss::

And as for LKB, she seems to have dropped off the face of the earth...

Yep...you would think she would be copied on all motions, orders etc....and nothing that I can find since May....
Has LKB even shown her face in Florida since the Indigency hearing back in March? 

that is the last time!!

IMO baez and co. are just chumming the waters with their enemies for something to do until their game is up. Sooner or later I think they'll try to present some version of an accident, try to get a deal. Maybe the State will say no, but I doubt it. Until then, this is all free publicitry and networking time for bozo. Why not use the State's money to cultivate your media resources and make this thing so sensational that your client's ATTY is in the news, not the case, the atty!. LKB has probably not "left" the team, but isn't going to try and use this interim to gain notoriety from this mess.

I think that is all they are doing........just biding their time, milking the state for money and then going to have her plead no contest to save her from the DP. I am personally glad she will end up in jail for the rest of her life, but NeJames was right in the beginning BOZO was not qualified to handle this case. She should have plead this down in the beginning and she would have been out of jail in her 30s.

I agree on all points. ::rhino::  the longer this goes on, the more convinced I am that they will plead her out.....IF they can get her to take a plea.  I just read the emails from when BOZO was inquiring about an use immunity deal for her....he should have taken it........
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1082457/Casey-Anthony-immunity-email

It looks like he started out on the right path...what happened?  $$$$$'s is my guess.

He inquired about use immunity somewhere around 7/25/08, discussed it face to face with LDB on 8/12/08, requested an extension of time on 8/27/08 and got til 9/2/08 to accept the offer. It looks as if he just let it run out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 11, 2010, 01:41:30 PM
http://blog.syracuse.com/entertainment/2010/08/larry_garrison_is_the_middle_m.html
Larry Garrison is the middle man for tabloid news
Published: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 12:35 PM     Updated: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 1:15 PM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2010, 01:47:17 PM
Scatty, Sunny   ::MonkeyKiss::

And as for LKB, she seems to have dropped off the face of the earth...

Yep...you would think she would be copied on all motions, orders etc....and nothing that I can find since May....
Has LKB even shown her face in Florida since the Indigency hearing back in March? 

that is the last time!!
My crystal ball says LKB will be leaving the defense team, why would she ruin her reputation on this case, I keep asking myself.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

hi nrcg....IMO she might stay on just to have someone knowledgeable about forensics, if it goes to trial.   But at this point who knows....
She is very knowledgeable on forensics, will give her that.   I just can't believe there is attention given to Casey and losing her darn driving license  WTH


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2010, 01:48:25 PM
http://blog.syracuse.com/entertainment/2010/08/larry_garrison_is_the_middle_m.html
Larry Garrison is the middle man for tabloid news
Published: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 12:35 PM     Updated: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 1:15 PM
Now here is a man that I wish would start talking  ::MonkeyEek:: I'm sure he is a wealth of info.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 02:01:44 PM
I don't know what date it is, but LKB has a meeting at the body farm with Dr Vass
and Ashton this month. I do not have a link for this. I thought she had quit also,
but I guess not. But I do think that the time she is putting into this is limited.
She hasn't been paid anything on this case.
Mary's comment sent me Googling.  I didn't learn when this meeting will take place, but I did refresh my memory about Dr. Arpad Vass.  He is a research scientist at the Oak Ridge National Labs in Oak Ridge, TN.  He is the expert who developed the decomp-air-sniffing technology, and is scheduled to be deposed in September.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/48545521/07262010-Defense-Bodyfarm-Depo-Notice
This notice of deposition is signed by Mason and does not mention Kenney-Baden... however I somehow recall that she might be slated to do this depo? 

Dr. Vass also heads up the Forensic Anthropology Department (including the Body Farm) at University of Tennessee, per Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arpad_Vass

I don't know about a meeting with Vass, Kenney-Baden, and Ashton this month, but will keep looking.  I do recall that the duhfense has made noises about demanding a Frye hearing to challenge Dr. Vass's technology...not sure where that stands, but also thought I heard that LKB would be involved if that happened, which makes sense, as forensics would be her specialty.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 02:03:14 PM
I don't know what date it is, but LKB has a meeting at the body farm with Dr Vass
and Ashton this month. I do not have a link for this. I thought she had quit also,
but I guess not. But I do think that the time she is putting into this is limited.
She hasn't been paid anything on this case.
IIRC the depositions were rescheduled for the 21st of Sept. in Knoxville
ooopssss I should have read ahead!!
::MonkeyCool:: Desi, too!  (too many irons in the fire right now, I guess)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 02:06:37 PM
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4867.msg774179#msg774179 
My post from April 18, 2009.
Sorry I did not give you credit on that if that was yours originally but I had it in my "notebook" from a WS link to DocStoc dated 7/08  for my notes and someone had asked how Mallory was connected to PB. 
::MonkeyKiss:: Don't be silly, Turbokins!  I too have found text by me, you, and many other Monkeys, unattributed, all over the Internet.  I figured you must have found it "out there" somewhere!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 11, 2010, 02:10:37 PM
She is very knowledgeable on forensics, will give her that.   I just can't believe there is attention given to Casey and losing her darn driving license  WTH

I think it is a red herring of some kind...........she does not need a license and it is no big deal to retest to get a license. When you move from state to state, most states require you take their test.

I believe originally when George wanted to get those papers to her, it was some other kind of papers he wanted her to sign. Think about it .......all he would have to do for a DL is mail the form they send out to her, let her sign it and mail it in.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 02:11:29 PM
I found in the early property listings where Sheri Milstead and Sherri McCandless were the same person. One business or property listing even had Sheri McCandless-Milstead as an owner.

Unfortunately, that is on my other computer which crashed, but I will ask Blink as we both had copies of all of those property transfers. The one on face book is not the right age for the one listed in that investigation we did. That may be Sheri Milstead's brother's wife though. Her family was listed as McCandless and that is why some people thought there might be a connection with that FC Craig McCandless.
Interesting!  (and what property transfers?)

Hope I didn't lead anyone astray there.  Please do post when/if you find that info, okay? I'm very curious.  Seems it would be highly illegal if Sherri Milstead is listing herself as two people with two names on the business docs for Kidfinders!  Yikes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 11, 2010, 02:16:44 PM
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4867.msg774179#msg774179  
My post from April 18, 2009.
Sorry I did not give you credit on that if that was yours originally but I had it in my "notebook" from a WS link to DocStoc dated 7/08  for my notes and someone had asked how Mallory was connected to PB.  
::MonkeyKiss:: Don't be silly, Turbokins!  I too have found text by me, you, and many other Monkeys, unattributed, all over the Internet.  I figured you must have found it "out there" somewhere!

Well, since I am here all the time, I just did not want you to think I took your post and used it as mine, so I wanted you to know where I got it.  

I have a new notebook so to speak on much of this but unfortunately when my other puter crashed, I lost so much and replacing much of it has been hunt and find so the originals are not listed like they were in my other computer because the ones I have now are not of the time when they were written.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 11, 2010, 02:18:48 PM
I found in the early property listings where Sheri Milstead and Sherri McCandless were the same person. One business or property listing even had Sheri McCandless-Milstead as an owner.

Unfortunately, that is on my other computer which crashed, but I will ask Blink as we both had copies of all of those property transfers. The one on face book is not the right age for the one listed in that investigation we did. That may be Sheri Milstead's brother's wife though. Her family was listed as McCandless and that is why some people thought there might be a connection with that FC Craig McCandless.
Interesting!  (and what property transfers?)

Hope I didn't lead anyone astray there.  Please do post when/if you find that info, okay? I'm very curious.  Seems it would be highly illegal if Sherri Milstead is listing herself as two people with two names on the business docs for Kidfinders!  Yikes.

I will email Blink, but I think we found more than two names and some things with either close relatives and/or their kids names.  There was also some change of spellings in some of the names.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 02:18:50 PM
Scatty, Sunny   ::MonkeyKiss::

And as for LKB, she seems to have dropped off the face of the earth...

Yep...you would think she would be copied on all motions, orders etc....and nothing that I can find since May....
Has LKB even shown her face in Florida since the Indigency hearing back in March? 

that is the last time!!
My crystal ball says LKB will be leaving the defense team, why would she ruin her reputation on this case, I keep asking myself.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

hi nrcg....IMO she might stay on just to have someone knowledgeable about forensics, if it goes to trial.   But at this point who knows....
She is very knowledgeable on forensics, will give her that.   I just can't believe there is attention given to Casey and losing her darn driving license  WTH


I think it was more to draw attention to the fact that even though ORDERED, BOZO didn't see fit to pay the court.  He feels like he is not governed by the same rules as others......I am waiting for the day when some judge gets tired of his flagrant thumbing or flipping the bird and throw his ass in jail!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 02:21:21 PM
She is very knowledgeable on forensics, will give her that.   I just can't believe there is attention given to Casey and losing her darn driving license  WTH

I think it is a red herring of some kind...........she does not need a license and it is no big deal to retest to get a license. When you move from state to state, most states require you take their test.

I believe originally when George wanted to get those papers to her, it was some other kind of papers he wanted her to sign. Think about it .......all he would have to do for a DL is mail the form they send out to her, let her sign it and mail it in.

you might correct. I took it much more simply....he was trying to assure his little darling that she would be walking out of jail on the arms of her attorneys and she would have her drivers license all ready for her!!   Or more simply....more of georgieboy's bullchit!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: O4Bull on August 11, 2010, 02:26:39 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html

This is Lohrs blog

That was his blog. It's my understanding that he was let go from there and is now with AOL news.
I remember that he was very close with Sean Krause (may he rest in peace). Can't remember the name of Sean's website, but I know it's now defunct.
he was a troubled, bitter, bitter man.  I do hope he found his way to peace.  He was not a likeable guy, IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 02:50:35 PM
She is very knowledgeable on forensics, will give her that.   I just can't believe there is attention given to Casey and losing her darn driving license  WTH
I think it is a red herring of some kind...........she does not need a license and it is no big deal to retest to get a license. When you move from state to state, most states require you take their test.
<<respectful snip>>
you might correct. I took it much more simply....he was trying to assure his little darling that she would be walking out of jail on the arms of her attorneys and she would have her drivers license all ready for her!!   Or more simply....more of georgieboy's bullchit!!
::MonkeyCool:: Ah, but it is all a moot point anyway.  I believe that under Florida law, a person's driver license is automatically revoked when it is discovered that the driver has used her vehicle to haul around the decomposing corpse of her toddler she has murdered, and/or used said vehicle to transport and dispose of said corpse...

JK,     but  ::MonkeyMad:: .


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 03:00:35 PM
She is very knowledgeable on forensics, will give her that.   I just can't believe there is attention given to Casey and losing her darn driving license  WTH
I think it is a red herring of some kind...........she does not need a license and it is no big deal to retest to get a license. When you move from state to state, most states require you take their test.
<<respectful snip>>
you might correct. I took it much more simply....he was trying to assure his little darling that she would be walking out of jail on the arms of her attorneys and she would have her drivers license all ready for her!!   Or more simply....more of georgieboy's bullchit!!
::MonkeyCool:: Ah, but it is all a moot point anyway.  I believe that under Florida law, a person's driver license is automatically revoked when it is discovered that the driver has used her vehicle to haul around the decomposing corpse of her toddler she has murdered, and/or used said vehicle to transport and dispose of said corpse...

JK,     but  ::MonkeyMad:: .

OHMYGAWD!!  I think you are right!!! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 11, 2010, 03:06:51 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/24595095/detail.html
Casey Orders Cocoa, Beef Sticks, Overdraws Account
Records Show Latest Purchases, Account Balance
POSTED: 1:45 pm EDT August 11, 2010
UPDATED: 2:08 pm EDT August 11, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony’s latest order from the jail’s commissary includes snack foods and personal care items, records from the Orange County Corrections Department show.
Anthony’s account was $6.94 overdrawn, as of Aug. 10, her account summary shows.

On July 25, Anthony placed an order from the commissary for personal care items such as shampoo, conditioner, deodorant and ponytail holders.
Anthony also ordered hot cocoa, water bottles, peanut butter and both original and “high heat” flavored beef sticks.

The order did not post to her account until July 29, a day a deposit for $140 was posted to the account from Casey’s mother, Cindy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 03:14:42 PM
 I wonder how the dunce-fense  are going to explain the adipocere  (grave wax) on the paper towels in the boot of Kc's car?

Adipocere (pronounced /ˈædɪpoˌsiər/), also known as corpse, grave or mortuary wax, is a wax-like organic substance formed by the anaerobic bacterial hydrolysis of fat in tissue, such as body fat in corpses. In its formation, putrefaction is replaced by a permanent firm cast of fatty tissues, internal organs and the face.

Corpses of women, infants and overweight persons are particularly prone to adipocere transformation because they contain more body fat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipocere

does anyone remember seeing a report on the grave wax yet???  My mind is a total blank on it ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 03:15:37 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/24595095/detail.html
Casey Orders Cocoa, Beef Sticks, Overdraws Account
Records Show Latest Purchases, Account Balance
POSTED: 1:45 pm EDT August 11, 2010
UPDATED: 2:08 pm EDT August 11, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony’s latest order from the jail’s commissary includes snack foods and personal care items, records from the Orange County Corrections Department show.
Anthony’s account was $6.94 overdrawn, as of Aug. 10, her account summary shows.

On July 25, Anthony placed an order from the commissary for personal care items such as shampoo, conditioner, deodorant and ponytail holders.
Anthony also ordered hot cocoa, water bottles, peanut butter and both original and “high heat” flavored beef sticks.

The order did not post to her account until July 29, a day a deposit for $140 was posted to the account from Casey’s mother, Cindy.

ooopssssss sin-cin better get her butt down there and put some money in that account....NOW!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Curly on August 11, 2010, 03:25:34 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html

This is Lohrs blog

That was his blog. It's my understanding that he was let go from there and is now with AOL news.
I remember that he was very close with Sean Krause (may he rest in peace). Can't remember the name of Sean's website, but I know it's now defunct.
he was a troubled, bitter, bitter man.  I do hope he found his way to peace.  He was not a likeable guy, IMO.

He used to post on an insane forum that I was once a member of. He seemed to be very nice, but I've heard the same thing from others that felt the way you do about him.
At the time, he was all Natasha and Boris'd out over the emails he exchanged with Cindy Anthony and was letting little snippets of them out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Curly on August 11, 2010, 03:30:38 PM
I wonder how the dunce-fense  are going to explain the adipocere  (grave wax) on the paper towels in the boot of Kc's car?

Adipocere (pronounced /ˈædɪpoˌsiər/), also known as corpse, grave or mortuary wax, is a wax-like organic substance formed by the anaerobic bacterial hydrolysis of fat in tissue, such as body fat in corpses. In its formation, putrefaction is replaced by a permanent firm cast of fatty tissues, internal organs and the face.

Corpses of women, infants and overweight persons are particularly prone to adipocere transformation because they contain more body fat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipocere

does anyone remember seeing a report on the grave wax yet???  My mind is a total blank on it ::MonkeyConfused::

That adipocere makes me nauseous even though I work in a lab and have seen much grosser stuff. This one makes me gag.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Curly on August 11, 2010, 03:32:26 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/24595095/detail.html
Casey Orders Cocoa, Beef Sticks, Overdraws Account
Records Show Latest Purchases, Account Balance
POSTED: 1:45 pm EDT August 11, 2010
UPDATED: 2:08 pm EDT August 11, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony’s latest order from the jail’s commissary includes snack foods and personal care items, records from the Orange County Corrections Department show.
Anthony’s account was $6.94 overdrawn, as of Aug. 10, her account summary shows.

On July 25, Anthony placed an order from the commissary for personal care items such as shampoo, conditioner, deodorant and ponytail holders.
Anthony also ordered hot cocoa, water bottles, peanut butter and both original and “high heat” flavored beef sticks.

The order did not post to her account until July 29, a day a deposit for $140 was posted to the account from Casey’s mother, Cindy.

ooopssssss sin-cin better get her butt down there and put some money in that account....NOW!!

Irresponsible even behind bars.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 11, 2010, 03:34:25 PM
She is very knowledgeable on forensics, will give her that.   I just can't believe there is attention given to Casey and losing her darn driving license  WTH
I think it is a red herring of some kind...........she does not need a license and it is no big deal to retest to get a license. When you move from state to state, most states require you take their test.
<<respectful snip>>
you might correct. I took it much more simply....he was trying to assure his little darling that she would be walking out of jail on the arms of her attorneys and she would have her drivers license all ready for her!!   Or more simply....more of georgieboy's bullchit!!
::MonkeyCool:: Ah, but it is all a moot point anyway.  I believe that under Florida law, a person's driver license is automatically revoked when it is discovered that the driver has used her vehicle to haul around the decomposing corpse of her toddler she has murdered, and/or used said vehicle to transport and dispose of said corpse...

JK,     but  ::MonkeyMad:: .

The car was registered to Rosebud and Mr Rosebud so I think they will get the car back?  If they throw Mr Rosebud under the bus do you think he could lose his license as the car was registered to him?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 03:43:36 PM
::MonkeyCool:: Ah, but it is all a moot point anyway.  I believe that under Florida law, a person's driver license is automatically revoked when it is discovered that the driver has used her vehicle to haul around the decomposing corpse of her toddler she has murdered, and/or used said vehicle to transport and dispose of said corpse...
JK,     but  ::MonkeyMad:: .
The car was registered to Rosebud and Mr Rosebud so I think they will get the car back?  If they throw Mr Rosebud under the bus do you think he could lose his license as the car was registered to him?
Good point.  I'll have to double-check the Florida statutes on that one.
 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ("Rosebud and Mr. Rosebud!"  LOL)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 11, 2010, 03:54:13 PM
I wonder how the dunce-fense  are going to explain the adipocere  (grave wax) on the paper towels in the boot of Kc's car?

Adipocere (pronounced /ˈædɪpoˌsiər/), also known as corpse, grave or mortuary wax, is a wax-like organic substance formed by the anaerobic bacterial hydrolysis of fat in tissue, such as body fat in corpses. In its formation, putrefaction is replaced by a permanent firm cast of fatty tissues, internal organs and the face.

Corpses of women, infants and overweight persons are particularly prone to adipocere transformation because they contain more body fat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipocere

does anyone remember seeing a report on the grave wax yet???  My mind is a total blank on it ::MonkeyConfused::

It was in one of the FBI released documents because it made reference to it and then the numbers on the pages skipped 2 pages. I l looked through the whole report a few times trying to find those pages. Then I wondered what they had NOT released that pertained to the grave wax. (like DNA, time of death (as it can be dated easily, etc.)  I had forgotten about it until you mentioned it but I sure do remember it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 11, 2010, 03:56:18 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/24595095/detail.html
Casey Orders Cocoa, Beef Sticks, Overdraws Account
Records Show Latest Purchases, Account Balance
POSTED: 1:45 pm EDT August 11, 2010
UPDATED: 2:08 pm EDT August 11, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony’s latest order from the jail’s commissary includes snack foods and personal care items, records from the Orange County Corrections Department show.
Anthony’s account was $6.94 overdrawn, as of Aug. 10, her account summary shows.

On July 25, Anthony placed an order from the commissary for personal care items such as shampoo, conditioner, deodorant and ponytail holders.
Anthony also ordered hot cocoa, water bottles, peanut butter and both original and “high heat” flavored beef sticks.

The order did not post to her account until July 29, a day a deposit for $140 was posted to the account from Casey’s mother, Cindy.

ooopssssss sin-cin better get her butt down there and put some money in that account....NOW!!

Irresponsible even behind bars.

It was like she was determined to spend it all at once. $140 spent in one day? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 04:16:58 PM
I wonder how the dunce-fense  are going to explain the adipocere  (grave wax) on the paper towels in the boot of Kc's car?

Adipocere (pronounced /ˈædɪpoˌsiər/), also known as corpse, grave or mortuary wax, is a wax-like organic substance formed by the anaerobic bacterial hydrolysis of fat in tissue, such as body fat in corpses. In its formation, putrefaction is replaced by a permanent firm cast of fatty tissues, internal organs and the face.

Corpses of women, infants and overweight persons are particularly prone to adipocere transformation because they contain more body fat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipocere

does anyone remember seeing a report on the grave wax yet??? My mind is a total blank on it ::MonkeyConfused::
Oh, haven't you heard, Sunny?  They are trying to frame poor Casey!  There was NO odor.  There is NO evidence.  And there is NO adipocere.  It was just grease.  From the pizza, you know?  Wait, what?  Oh... It's for certain that there was actually NO PIZZA in that trash bag in Casey's trunk?  Well, darn.

Um, um, um, -- Oh, I know!  It had to have been animal fat, then.  Yeah, from the (non-existent) "meat products" that Henry Lee (didn't) find when he went through the trash from the trunk!  How's that?

No?  Um.... Velveeta, then?  Dead squirrel fluids?  Bacon fat from Zanny's breakfast taco?  Or maybe it was fake adipocere left behind by the real killer, AmyRicardoTonyJesse?

Well, whatever it was, it couldn't have been real human adipocere.  We all know that is just "junk science."

Bottom line, if the facts show that there really was adipocere in that trunk, then those paper towels had to have been planted there by the evil Yuri Melich or John Allen.  Or Tim Miller.  Or Leonard Padilla.  Or Kathi Belich.  Yeah.

Besides, <nervous twitch> Caylee is ALIVE. <odd grimace> And she HAS been from Day One.  So there.
 ::MonkeyCool::
Do I sound like Cindy yet?

-----
In all seriousness, I believe the adipocere will be just one of the ways that little Caylee will work from beyond to make sure that her murderer gets justice... we shall see.

I agree with Turbo; I think I've seen a report... seem to remember it... but can't find a comprehensive one.  Quickly searching, this was all I came up with:

See page 7 of this link,
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/06/19/6551.6591.pdf

"... fatty acids, such as the ones detected, (palmitic, stearic, myristic, oleic) indicate a fat decomposition product like adipocere (grave wax) present on the paper towels."
[..]
"While the amounts of these fatty acids can vary, the fatty acid ratios detected on the paper towels are quite consistent with those identified in human and pic decomposition studies."
-----

Unless there was a dead  ::piggy:: in Casey's trunk at some point, I'm thinking this one is going to be a slam dunk.  JMO

Here is an excellent discussion on the adipocere implications, courtesy of HinkyMeter (Valhall):
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/04/24/adipocere-and-dna-testing/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 11, 2010, 04:37:15 PM
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2010/08/jose-baez-and-cheney-mason-still.html

this is a good read....

 ::MonkeyCool::   Yes, always a good read and brain organizer!!;  I am hard pressed to figure out the Defense's cud-chewing, regurgitating strategy regarding these TES documents, unless it's to create some sort of cloud of nefarious dealings for a future juror's mind.  They are insensitive to the reality that the Court has just so much patience and I seriously believe Judge Perry's patience surely must be coming to an end, I know mine is-lol.  Baez & Co. are mind-numbingly stubborn to the max.  Where is their basic commin sense?

I can hardly wait for the outcome on this latest rediculous motion.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 04:37:17 PM
edit to above post:

"pic" should read "pig" -- sorry!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 11, 2010, 04:38:21 PM
**common**


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Curly on August 11, 2010, 04:50:54 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/24595095/detail.html
Casey Orders Cocoa, Beef Sticks, Overdraws Account
Records Show Latest Purchases, Account Balance
POSTED: 1:45 pm EDT August 11, 2010
UPDATED: 2:08 pm EDT August 11, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony’s latest order from the jail’s commissary includes snack foods and personal care items, records from the Orange County Corrections Department show.
Anthony’s account was $6.94 overdrawn, as of Aug. 10, her account summary shows.

On July 25, Anthony placed an order from the commissary for personal care items such as shampoo, conditioner, deodorant and ponytail holders.
Anthony also ordered hot cocoa, water bottles, peanut butter and both original and “high heat” flavored beef sticks.

The order did not post to her account until July 29, a day a deposit for $140 was posted to the account from Casey’s mother, Cindy.

ooopssssss sin-cin better get her butt down there and put some money in that account....NOW!!

Irresponsible even behind bars.

It was like she was determined to spend it all at once. $140 spent in one day? 

Did that $140 cover her debt? Or was it $140 free and clear for her? I'm  thinking it was $140 total and she was in arrears when Cindy decided to finally give her monster some money.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 11, 2010, 04:52:15 PM
http://blog.syracuse.com/entertainment/2010/08/larry_garrison_is_the_middle_m.html
Larry Garrison is the middle man for tabloid news
Published: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 12:35 PM     Updated: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 1:15 PM
Now here is a man that I wish would start talking  ::MonkeyEek:: I'm sure he is a wealth of info.

Me too;  Is he on any of the witness lists?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 11, 2010, 04:56:03 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/135188/Casey-team-accuses-NeJame-of-wanting-fame
Casey team accuses NeJame of wanting fame
By Jacqueline Fell , Reporter
Last Updated: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 3:41 PM
ORLANDO -- 
Mark NeJame is firing back at Casey Anthony's defense after her attorneys filed a motion accusing NeJame of being involved for self promotional purposes only.

"Either they're not being truthful or they don't know their case," NeJame said.

They also accuse him of stalling the defense's efforts by keeping them from reviewing documents belonging to Texas EquuSearch.

"Those documents have been sitting here for eight months waiting for them to finally get around to checking them out,” NeJame said.  “So if anybody thwarted the defense, it was the defense lawyers not getting around to doing their job."

In court papers, NeJame says the defense is acting in bad faith and harassing EquuSearch volunteers.
     
NeJame represents the volunteer organization.

He previously represented George and Cindy Anthony, but they split after three months.

Casey Anthony's defense says NeJame now wants to write a book about it and use the case to promote his own interests.     
"If I wanted the fame, I surely wouldn't have fired the client,” NeJame said.  “They're just wrong. It’s a typical ploy. If you don't have the facts then you go after the lawyer or you go after another individual. It's just nonsense. Just nonsense."

NeJame doesn't refute considering writing a book.  He went as far as talking things over with a ghostwriter


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 05:30:10 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/135188/Casey-team-accuses-NeJame-of-wanting-fame
Casey team accuses NeJame of wanting fame
<< respectful snip >>
What a headline!

How about:  "Prosecution accuses Baez of fruitlessly longing for even one iota of integrity?"

Sheesh.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 11, 2010, 05:34:27 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/24595095/detail.html
Casey Orders Cocoa, Beef Sticks, Overdraws Account
Records Show Latest Purchases, Account Balance
POSTED: 1:45 pm EDT August 11, 2010
UPDATED: 2:08 pm EDT August 11, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony’s latest order from the jail’s commissary includes snack foods and personal care items, records from the Orange County Corrections Department show.
Anthony’s account was $6.94 overdrawn, as of Aug. 10, her account summary shows.

On July 25, Anthony placed an order from the commissary for personal care items such as shampoo, conditioner, deodorant and ponytail holders.
Anthony also ordered hot cocoa, water bottles, peanut butter and both original and “high heat” flavored beef sticks.

The order did not post to her account until July 29, a day a deposit for $140 was posted to the account from Casey’s mother, Cindy.

ooopssssss sin-cin better get her butt down there and put some money in that account....NOW!!

Irresponsible even behind bars.

It was like she was determined to spend it all at once. $140 spent in one day?  

Did that $140 cover her debt? Or was it $140 free and clear for her? I'm  thinking it was $140 total and she was in arrears when Cindy decided to finally give her monster some money.

I am thinking you are right...........she was something like 41 in the whole, but even with that she spent almost 100.00 in a day. LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Curly on August 11, 2010, 05:46:34 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/24595095/detail.html
Casey Orders Cocoa, Beef Sticks, Overdraws Account
Records Show Latest Purchases, Account Balance
POSTED: 1:45 pm EDT August 11, 2010
UPDATED: 2:08 pm EDT August 11, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony’s latest order from the jail’s commissary includes snack foods and personal care items, records from the Orange County Corrections Department show.
Anthony’s account was $6.94 overdrawn, as of Aug. 10, her account summary shows.

On July 25, Anthony placed an order from the commissary for personal care items such as shampoo, conditioner, deodorant and ponytail holders.
Anthony also ordered hot cocoa, water bottles, peanut butter and both original and “high heat” flavored beef sticks.

The order did not post to her account until July 29, a day a deposit for $140 was posted to the account from Casey’s mother, Cindy.

ooopssssss sin-cin better get her butt down there and put some money in that account....NOW!!

Irresponsible even behind bars.

It was like she was determined to spend it all at once. $140 spent in one day?  

Did that $140 cover her debt? Or was it $140 free and clear for her? I'm  thinking it was $140 total and she was in arrears when Cindy decided to finally give her monster some money.

I am thinking you are right...........she was something like 41 in the whole, but even with that she spent almost 100.00 in a day. LOL

Probably trying to make up for all the time she was deprived!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Scatty on August 11, 2010, 05:48:17 PM
Weren't Richard and Jesse Grund deposed by the defense today?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 06:04:48 PM
Weren't Richard and Jesse Grund deposed by the defense today?
Excellent memory, Scatty!  Jesse and his dad were supposed to be deposed on the 30th(?), then Jesse's was rescheduled for today.  Not sure about dad's.

Orlando Sentinel TV Guy, July 30, 2010: (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/07/casey-anthony-roy-kronk-says-doing-the-right-thing-is-its-own-reward-is-it.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher)

"WFTV reported the defense canceled today’s deposition with former Anthony fiance Jesse Grund and rescheduled it to Aug. 11."

... and yesterday's column: (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/08/casey-anthony-mark-nejame-calls-anthony-teams-accusations-laughable.html)

"The Anthony defense team tomorrow will depose Jesse Grund, Casey’s former fiance, and his father, Richard Grund, WFTV reported."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 11, 2010, 06:15:21 PM
Mark NeJame Interview
http://www.cfnews13.com/video?clip=http://static.cfnews13.com/newsvideo/cfn/NEJAMEWEBONLY_081120100455.flv


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 06:35:08 PM
I wonder how the dunce-fense  are going to explain the adipocere  (grave wax) on the paper towels in the boot of Kc's car?

Adipocere (pronounced /ˈædɪpoˌsiər/), also known as corpse, grave or mortuary wax, is a wax-like organic substance formed by the anaerobic bacterial hydrolysis of fat in tissue, such as body fat in corpses. In its formation, putrefaction is replaced by a permanent firm cast of fatty tissues, internal organs and the face.

Corpses of women, infants and overweight persons are particularly prone to adipocere transformation because they contain more body fat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipocere

does anyone remember seeing a report on the grave wax yet??? My mind is a total blank on it ::MonkeyConfused::
Oh, haven't you heard, Sunny?  They are trying to frame poor Casey!  There was NO odor.  There is NO evidence.  And there is NO adipocere.  It was just grease.  From the pizza, you know?  Wait, what?  Oh... It's for certain that there was actually NO PIZZA in that trash bag in Casey's trunk?  Well, darn.

Um, um, um, -- Oh, I know!  It had to have been animal fat, then.  Yeah, from the (non-existent) "meat products" that Henry Lee (didn't) find when he went through the trash from the trunk!  How's that?

No?  Um.... Velveeta, then?  Dead squirrel fluids?  Bacon fat from Zanny's breakfast taco?  Or maybe it was fake adipocere left behind by the real killer, AmyRicardoTonyJesse?

Well, whatever it was, it couldn't have been real human adipocere.  We all know that is just "junk science."

Bottom line, if the facts show that there really was adipocere in that trunk, then those paper towels had to have been planted there by the evil Yuri Melich or John Allen.  Or Tim Miller.  Or Leonard Padilla.  Or Kathi Belich.  Yeah.

Besides, <nervous twitch> Caylee is ALIVE. <odd grimace> And she HAS been from Day One.  So there.
 ::MonkeyCool::
Do I sound like Cindy yet?

-----
In all seriousness, I believe the adipocere will be just one of the ways that little Caylee will work from beyond to make sure that her murderer gets justice... we shall see.

I agree with Turbo; I think I've seen a report... seem to remember it... but can't find a comprehensive one.  Quickly searching, this was all I came up with:

See page 7 of this link,
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/06/19/6551.6591.pdf

"... fatty acids, such as the ones detected, (palmitic, stearic, myristic, oleic) indicate a fat decomposition product like adipocere (grave wax) present on the paper towels."
[..]
"While the amounts of these fatty acids can vary, the fatty acid ratios detected on the paper towels are quite consistent with those identified in human and pic decomposition studies."
-----

Unless there was a dead  ::piggy:: in Casey's trunk at some point, I'm thinking this one is going to be a slam dunk.  JMO

Here is an excellent discussion on the adipocere implications, courtesy of HinkyMeter (Valhall):
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/04/24/adipocere-and-dna-testing/

 ::MonkeyDevil::  Desi...don't skeer me talking that sin-cin talk! 

this is one of the things has really stuck with me...and in those few moments when I questioned myself....I always remembered the 31 days and the grave wax and it slapped me right back to reality!  SHE IS GUILTY AS HELL!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 06:39:16 PM
I wonder how the dunce-fense  are going to explain the adipocere  (grave wax) on the paper towels in the boot of Kc's car?

Adipocere (pronounced /ˈædɪpoˌsiər/), also known as corpse, grave or mortuary wax, is a wax-like organic substance formed by the anaerobic bacterial hydrolysis of fat in tissue, such as body fat in corpses. In its formation, putrefaction is replaced by a permanent firm cast of fatty tissues, internal organs and the face.

Corpses of women, infants and overweight persons are particularly prone to adipocere transformation because they contain more body fat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipocere

does anyone remember seeing a report on the grave wax yet???  My mind is a total blank on it ::MonkeyConfused::

That adipocere makes me nauseous even though I work in a lab and have seen much grosser stuff. This one makes me gag.

I am sorry curly....didn't mean to make you sick.  It's just one of the things that makes me know in my heart that Kc killed Caylee....and let her rot in the trunk of the car....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 06:41:08 PM
I wonder how the dunce-fense  are going to explain the adipocere  (grave wax) on the paper towels in the boot of Kc's car?

Adipocere (pronounced /ˈædɪpoˌsiər/), also known as corpse, grave or mortuary wax, is a wax-like organic substance formed by the anaerobic bacterial hydrolysis of fat in tissue, such as body fat in corpses. In its formation, putrefaction is replaced by a permanent firm cast of fatty tissues, internal organs and the face.

Corpses of women, infants and overweight persons are particularly prone to adipocere transformation because they contain more body fat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipocere

does anyone remember seeing a report on the grave wax yet???  My mind is a total blank on it ::MonkeyConfused::

It was in one of the FBI released documents because it made reference to it and then the numbers on the pages skipped 2 pages. I l looked through the whole report a few times trying to find those pages. Then I wondered what they had NOT released that pertained to the grave wax. (like DNA, time of death (as it can be dated easily, etc.)  I had forgotten about it until you mentioned it but I sure do remember it.

Thanks turbo.... ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 06:43:28 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/135188/Casey-team-accuses-NeJame-of-wanting-fame
Casey team accuses NeJame of wanting fame
<< respectful snip >>
What a headline!

How about:  "Prosecution accuses Baez of fruitlessly longing for even one iota of integrity?"

Sheesh.

Several of the headlines recently have been real come-ons...get the competition is tough in Orlando!! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 06:53:46 PM
Mark NeJame Interview
http://www.cfnews13.com/video?clip=http://static.cfnews13.com/newsvideo/cfn/NEJAMEWEBONLY_081120100455.flv

Thanks trim....I for one am going to email Mark and encourage him to PLEASE write a book....He is one that could do exactly what he said...give an honest and truthful account of this tragedy.

I loved it when he mentioned that some people were the 'underbelly of society'........... ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Wyks on August 11, 2010, 07:00:07 PM
I found in the early property listings where Sheri Milstead and Sherri McCandless were the same person. One business or property listing even had Sheri McCandless-Milstead as an owner.

Unfortunately, that is on my other computer which crashed, but I will ask Blink as we both had copies of all of those property transfers. The one on face book is not the right age for the one listed in that investigation we did. That may be Sheri Milstead's brother's wife though. Her family was listed as McCandless and that is why some people thought there might be a connection with that FC Craig McCandless.
Interesting!  (and what property transfers?)

Hope I didn't lead anyone astray there.  Please do post when/if you find that info, okay? I'm very curious.  Seems it would be highly illegal if Sherri Milstead is listing herself as two people with two names on the business docs for Kidfinders!  Yikes.

If/when proven, it sure wouldn't surprise us, would it.   ::MonkeyDevil::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Wyks on August 11, 2010, 07:11:55 PM

For those wondering what the heck a 'body farm' is...

A body farm is a research facility where human decomposition  can be studied in a variety of settings. The aim is to gain a better understanding of the decomposition process, permitting the development of techniques for extracting information (such as the timing and circumstances of death) from human remains. Body farm research is particularly important within forensic anthropology and related disciplines, and has applications in the fields of law enforcement and forensic science. Four such facilities exist in the United States with the research facility at Texas State University being the largest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm)


For those who want to read more:

"What follows may be unsuitable for the squeamish, read on at your risk."
http://www.damninteresting.com/the-remains-of-doctor-bass (http://www.damninteresting.com/the-remains-of-doctor-bass)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Blumonkey on August 11, 2010, 07:32:26 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/24593241/detail.html
Casey Anthony Could Lose Driver's License
License Could Be Suspended Because Of Unpaid Court Fees
POSTED: 11:56 am EDT August 11, 2010
UPDATED: 12:42 pm EDT August 11, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony’s driver's license could be suspended, court records show.

Anthony pleaded guilty in January to 13 counts in a check fraud case and was ordered to pay certain court costs.
The costs have yet to be paid in their entirety, so the Orange County Clerk of Courts forwarded the outstanding balance of $381 to a collection agency on Saturday.

The clerk also sent a notice to suspend Anthony’s driving privileges.

The state of Florida can suspend driver's licenses for a variety of reasons, including unpaid court fees.
Anthony’s check fraud charges stemmed from surveillance video that authorities said showed her at local stores and banks spending more than $600 of her friend Amy Huizenga’s money while Caylee was missing.

Anthony’s vehicle is currently in the custody of the Orange County Sheriff’s Office as evidence in Caylee’s disappearance
No driver's license required on the Highway to Hell !
                                                                                    ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Scatty on August 11, 2010, 07:48:51 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/24592378/detail.html


 ::monkeyscissors::
Casey’s defense team was scheduled to question more witnesses under oath Wednesday, but the depositions were cancelled.

Her attorneys were suppose to depose Casey's ex-fiance, Jesse Grund and his father, Richard Grund.

Casey's parents, George and Cindy Anthony asked detectives to investigate Jesse Grund as a possible suspect. Casey claimed she didn't trust him.

Investigators from the medical examiner's offices were also supposed to be questioned.
 

What's up with all the cancellations lately??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Curly on August 11, 2010, 07:53:33 PM
I wonder how the dunce-fense  are going to explain the adipocere  (grave wax) on the paper towels in the boot of Kc's car?

Adipocere (pronounced /ˈædɪpoˌsiər/), also known as corpse, grave or mortuary wax, is a wax-like organic substance formed by the anaerobic bacterial hydrolysis of fat in tissue, such as body fat in corpses. In its formation, putrefaction is replaced by a permanent firm cast of fatty tissues, internal organs and the face.

Corpses of women, infants and overweight persons are particularly prone to adipocere transformation because they contain more body fat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipocere

does anyone remember seeing a report on the grave wax yet???  My mind is a total blank on it ::MonkeyConfused::

That adipocere makes me nauseous even though I work in a lab and have seen much grosser stuff. This one makes me gag.

I am sorry curly....didn't mean to make you sick.  It's just one of the things that makes me know in my heart that Kc killed Caylee....and let her rot in the trunk of the car....

I know Sunny. It just freaks me out.
That's solid evidence. The 31 days did it for me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Curly on August 11, 2010, 07:56:43 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/24592378/detail.html


 ::monkeyscissors::
Casey’s defense team was scheduled to question more witnesses under oath Wednesday, but the depositions were cancelled.

Her attorneys were suppose to depose Casey's ex-fiance, Jesse Grund and his father, Richard Grund.

Casey's parents, George and Cindy Anthony asked detectives to investigate Jesse Grund as a possible suspect. Casey claimed she didn't trust him.

Investigators from the medical examiner's offices were also supposed to be questioned.
 

What's up with all the cancellations lately??

The duhfense is playing games.
How many times can they disrupt a person's life like that? These people have to take off from work every time these yutzes "schedule" an interview/depo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 08:02:51 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/24592378/detail.html


 ::monkeyscissors::
Casey’s defense team was scheduled to question more witnesses under oath Wednesday, but the depositions were cancelled.

Her attorneys were suppose to depose Casey's ex-fiance, Jesse Grund and his father, Richard Grund.

Casey's parents, George and Cindy Anthony asked detectives to investigate Jesse Grund as a possible suspect. Casey claimed she didn't trust him.

Investigators from the medical examiner's offices were also supposed to be questioned.
 

What's up with all the cancellations lately??
  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I don't know.  Maybe Baez has had to take an emergency medical leave in order to have his foot surgically removed from his mouth? 

Thanks for this news link, Scatty.  Poor Jesse.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 11, 2010, 08:05:08 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/24593241/detail.html
Casey Anthony Could Lose Driver's License
License Could Be Suspended Because Of Unpaid Court Fees
POSTED: 11:56 am EDT August 11, 2010
UPDATED: 12:42 pm EDT August 11, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony’s driver's license could be suspended, court records show.

Anthony pleaded guilty in January to 13 counts in a check fraud case and was ordered to pay certain court costs.
The costs have yet to be paid in their entirety, so the Orange County Clerk of Courts forwarded the outstanding balance of $381 to a collection agency on Saturday.

The clerk also sent a notice to suspend Anthony’s driving privileges.

The state of Florida can suspend driver's licenses for a variety of reasons, including unpaid court fees.
Anthony’s check fraud charges stemmed from surveillance video that authorities said showed her at local stores and banks spending more than $600 of her friend Amy Huizenga’s money while Caylee was missing.

Anthony’s vehicle is currently in the custody of the Orange County Sheriff’s Office as evidence in Caylee’s disappearance
No driver's license required on the Highway to Hell !
                                                                                    ::MonkeyJustice::

You're good!   ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 08:05:30 PM
No driver's license required on the Highway to Hell ! ::MonkeyJustice::
  ::MonkeyDevil:: Funny! (and so true.)  Casey's going "down."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 08:05:53 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/24592378/detail.html


 ::monkeyscissors::
Casey’s defense team was scheduled to question more witnesses under oath Wednesday, but the depositions were cancelled.

Her attorneys were suppose to depose Casey's ex-fiance, Jesse Grund and his father, Richard Grund.

Casey's parents, George and Cindy Anthony asked detectives to investigate Jesse Grund as a possible suspect. Casey claimed she didn't trust him.

Investigators from the medical examiner's offices were also supposed to be questioned.
 

What's up with all the cancellations lately??

Thanks, sure wish we knew ::MonkeyEek::

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234

08/10/2010           Supplemental State Witness List
08/10/2010           Notice of Provision of Supplemental Discovery
08/10/2010           Notice of Cancellation
of Taking Deposition Upon Oral Examination (for 8/11)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 11, 2010, 08:07:05 PM
Mark NeJame Interview
http://www.cfnews13.com/video?clip=http://static.cfnews13.com/newsvideo/cfn/NEJAMEWEBONLY_081120100455.flv

Thanks trim....I for one am going to email Mark and encourage him to PLEASE write a book....He is one that could do exactly what he said...give an honest and truthful account of this tragedy.

I loved it when he mentioned that some people were the 'underbelly of society'........... ::MonkeyDevil::

I would so buy his book.    ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 08:07:37 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/24592378/detail.html


 ::monkeyscissors::
Casey’s defense team was scheduled to question more witnesses under oath Wednesday, but the depositions were cancelled.

Her attorneys were suppose to depose Casey's ex-fiance, Jesse Grund and his father, Richard Grund.

Casey's parents, George and Cindy Anthony asked detectives to investigate Jesse Grund as a possible suspect. Casey claimed she didn't trust him.

Investigators from the medical examiner's offices were also supposed to be questioned.
 

What's up with all the cancellations lately??

The duhfense is playing games.
How many times can they disrupt a person's life like that? These people have to take off from work every time these yutzes "schedule" an interview/depo.

Doesn't Jesse live out of Fl now too??  Maybe AL?  not sure, but I think!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Curly on August 11, 2010, 08:08:13 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/24593241/detail.html
Casey Anthony Could Lose Driver's License
License Could Be Suspended Because Of Unpaid Court Fees
POSTED: 11:56 am EDT August 11, 2010
UPDATED: 12:42 pm EDT August 11, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony’s driver's license could be suspended, court records show.

Anthony pleaded guilty in January to 13 counts in a check fraud case and was ordered to pay certain court costs.
The costs have yet to be paid in their entirety, so the Orange County Clerk of Courts forwarded the outstanding balance of $381 to a collection agency on Saturday.

The clerk also sent a notice to suspend Anthony’s driving privileges.

The state of Florida can suspend driver's licenses for a variety of reasons, including unpaid court fees.
Anthony’s check fraud charges stemmed from surveillance video that authorities said showed her at local stores and banks spending more than $600 of her friend Amy Huizenga’s money while Caylee was missing.

Anthony’s vehicle is currently in the custody of the Orange County Sheriff’s Office as evidence in Caylee’s disappearance
No driver's license required on the Highway to Hell !
                         
 
                                                          ::MonkeyJustice::
::rhino::

You got that right!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Curly on August 11, 2010, 08:09:31 PM
Mark NeJame Interview
http://www.cfnews13.com/video?clip=http://static.cfnews13.com/newsvideo/cfn/NEJAMEWEBONLY_081120100455.flv

Thanks trim....I for one am going to email Mark and encourage him to PLEASE write a book....He is one that could do exactly what he said...give an honest and truthful account of this tragedy.

I loved it when he mentioned that some people were the 'underbelly of society'........... ::MonkeyDevil::

I would so buy his book.    ::rhino::

Count me in!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 08:10:45 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/24592378/detail.html


 ::monkeyscissors::
Casey’s defense team was scheduled to question more witnesses under oath Wednesday, but the depositions were cancelled.

Her attorneys were suppose to depose Casey's ex-fiance, Jesse Grund and his father, Richard Grund.

Casey's parents, George and Cindy Anthony asked detectives to investigate Jesse Grund as a possible suspect. Casey claimed she didn't trust him.

Investigators from the medical examiner's offices were also supposed to be questioned.
 

What's up with all the cancellations lately??
  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I don't know.  Maybe Baez has had to take an emergency medical leave in order to have his foot surgically removed from his mouth? 

Thanks for this news link, Scatty.  Poor Jesse.

Desi,  would he go to a Podiatrist or an oral surgeon for that procedure?? ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 08:12:02 PM
Mark NeJame Interview
http://www.cfnews13.com/video?clip=http://static.cfnews13.com/newsvideo/cfn/NEJAMEWEBONLY_081120100455.flv

Thanks trim....I for one am going to email Mark and encourage him to PLEASE write a book....He is one that could do exactly what he said...give an honest and truthful account of this tragedy.

I loved it when he mentioned that some people were the 'underbelly of society'........... ::MonkeyDevil::

I would so buy his book.    ::rhino::

Me too...in a heartbeat!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 11, 2010, 08:17:28 PM
The defense has a history of not showing up for appointments and canceiling  depos!! How will they be ready come trial time?  How many extensions will  judge Perry allow!!! of course they aren't
ready for depos they are spending to much time at the motionwindow!!!
This is not the first or the last time they will do this!! Like someone said!! These people are being inconvenienced!! What they aren't prepared.? This is getting to be tooo much!! Pass me the flask pleeze !!!
Ok bact to my tree!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 11, 2010, 08:21:48 PM

For those wondering what the heck a 'body farm' is...

A body farm is a research facility where human decomposition  can be studied in a variety of settings. The aim is to gain a better understanding of the decomposition process, permitting the development of techniques for extracting information (such as the timing and circumstances of death) from human remains. Body farm research is particularly important within forensic anthropology and related disciplines, and has applications in the fields of law enforcement and forensic science. Four such facilities exist in the United States with the research facility at Texas State University being the largest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm)


For those who want to read more:

"What follows may be unsuitable for the squeamish, read on at your risk."
http://www.damninteresting.com/the-remains-of-doctor-bass (http://www.damninteresting.com/the-remains-of-doctor-bass)



I absolutely LOVE Dr. Bass. I have had the opportunity to not only take some of his classes but to do field work with him and he is one of the most interesting men you will ever meet. The "Body Farm" is behind UT hospital on the hill and until not too long ago it was not even fenced off with privacy fencing. No one but the police, med students, nursing , anthropology students and people working in the field had ever been there or knew of it's existence. All of a sudden a big interest in forensics started and boom everyone wanted to see the Body Farm and it became the "place to go" for high school students who were in for a thrill. LOL

Dr. Bass has written some great books in the last few years which are very authethetic to the works of anthropology and forensics. He writes under the name of Jefferson Bass & if you haven't ever read any of his books you have missed a treat. Here is the website.

http://www.jeffersonbass.com/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 11, 2010, 08:30:17 PM
http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/2010/08/11/pillpopping-dingbat-takes-up-creative-writing/#comments
August 10,2010
Pillpopping Dingbat Takes Up Creative Writing


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 08:31:18 PM

For those wondering what the heck a 'body farm' is...

A body farm is a research facility where human decomposition  can be studied in a variety of settings. The aim is to gain a better understanding of the decomposition process, permitting the development of techniques for extracting information (such as the timing and circumstances of death) from human remains. Body farm research is particularly important within forensic anthropology and related disciplines, and has applications in the fields of law enforcement and forensic science. Four such facilities exist in the United States with the research facility at Texas State University being the largest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm)


For those who want to read more:

"What follows may be unsuitable for the squeamish, read on at your risk."
http://www.damninteresting.com/the-remains-of-doctor-bass (http://www.damninteresting.com/the-remains-of-doctor-bass)



I absolutely LOVE Dr. Bass. I have had the opportunity to not only take some of his classes but to do field work with him and he is one of the most interesting men you will ever meet. The "Body Farm" is behind UT hospital on the hill and until not too long ago it was not even fenced off with privacy fencing. No one but the police, med students, nursing , anthropology students and people working in the field had ever been there or knew of it's existence. All of a sudden a big interest in forensics started and boom everyone wanted to see the Body Farm and it became the "place to go" for high school students who were in for a thrill. LOL

Dr. Bass has written some great books in the last few years which are very authethetic to the works of anthropology and forensics. He writes under the name of Jefferson Bass & if you haven't ever read any of his books you have missed a treat. Here is the website.

http://www.jeffersonbass.com/

How neat!!  I will check it out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 08:33:45 PM
http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/2010/08/11/pillpopping-dingbat-takes-up-creative-writing/#comments
August 10,2010
Pillpopping Dingbat Takes Up Creative Writing

ROTFLAMO!!!  I love it!!! ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 11, 2010, 08:35:22 PM
Here are some tours of the Body Farm with Dr. Bass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSDCiOW81mk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_SiqND9bNA

http://www.knoxtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=df51aa2a5306b0f53320


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Babybear on August 11, 2010, 08:37:22 PM
The defense has a history of not showing up for appointments and canceiling  depos!! How will they be ready come trial time?  How many extensions will  judge Perry allow!!! of course they aren't
ready for depos they are spending to much time at the motionwindow!!!
This is not the first or the last time they will do this!! Like someone said!! These people are being inconvenienced!! What they aren't prepared.? This is getting to be tooo much!! Pass me the flask pleeze !!!
Ok bact to my tree!!

I think the judge should put a stop to this scheduling and cancelling and scheduling and cancelling.  It is outrageous that they haven't deposed some of the main witnesses.  Baez really needs to be replaced, but that would postpone the trial even further. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 11, 2010, 08:39:39 PM
The defense has a history of not showing up for appointments and canceiling  depos!! How will they be ready come trial time?  How many extensions will  judge Perry allow!!! of course they aren't
ready for depos they are spending to much time at the motionwindow!!!
This is not the first or the last time they will do this!! Like someone said!! These people are being inconvenienced!! What they aren't prepared.? This is getting to be tooo much!! Pass me the flask pleeze !!!
Ok bact to my tree!!

I think the judge should put a stop to this scheduling and cancelling and scheduling and cancelling.  It is outrageous that they haven't deposed some of the main witnesses.  Baez really needs to be replaced, but that would postpone the trial even further. 

They canceled the one in Knoxville VERY late and had all those scientists from Oak Ridge lined up to do the depositions. I bet they end up having to pay those guys for their time which will NOT come cheap. They had it scheduled at a large law office in Knoxville and had all the court stenographers set up and all kinds of arrangements made when BOZO canceled. I don't see the judge putting up with this again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 11, 2010, 08:55:13 PM
He is building a bad rep for himself which is not good for future business dealings with these labs etc. He is as sloppy with his business dealings as he is with paying his legal and personal bills!
I hope y'all are right!! Other attorneys  I'm sure are poking jokes At his expense (well deserved)
word will get around on his lack of ethics and lack of respect for the court and rules!
So maybe judge Perry will let him. Have it. He needs time and money management 101


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 08:57:38 PM
Who is here that can post the calendar?  Obviously NOT ME!  I can't even figure out how to change my avatar!!

http://humbleopinionforum.net/calendar-of-events/

Perhaps Klaas can figure where we can post it and how we can keep it up to date....

Whoo Hoo.....Klaas?????????????????????????????????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Curly on August 11, 2010, 08:57:43 PM
The defense has a history of not showing up for appointments and canceiling  depos!! How will they be ready come trial time?  How many extensions will  judge Perry allow!!! of course they aren't
ready for depos they are spending to much time at the motionwindow!!!
This is not the first or the last time they will do this!! Like someone said!! These people are being inconvenienced!! What they aren't prepared.? This is getting to be tooo much!! Pass me the flask pleeze !!!
Ok bact to my tree!!

I think the judge should put a stop to this scheduling and cancelling and scheduling and cancelling.  It is outrageous that they haven't deposed some of the main witnesses.  Baez really needs to be replaced, but that would postpone the trial even further. 

They canceled the one in Knoxville VERY late and had all those scientists from Oak Ridge lined up to do the depositions. I bet they end up having to pay those guys for their time which will NOT come cheap. They had it scheduled at a large law office in Knoxville and had all the court stenographers set up and all kinds of arrangements made when BOZO canceled. I don't see the judge putting up with this again.

Hope you're right about the judge, Turbo.
They should be made to explain each and every cancellation.
Hope they have to pay out of their own pockets.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 11, 2010, 08:58:48 PM
He is building a bad rep for himself which is not good for future business dealings with these labs etc. He is as sloppy with his business dealings as he is with paying his legal and personal bills!
I hope y'all are right!! Other attorneys  I'm sure are poking jokes At his expense (well deserved)
word will get around on his lack of ethics and lack of respect for the court and rules!
So maybe judge Perry will let him. Have it. He needs time and money management 101

If he canceled the one in Knoxville so late that the State of Florida has to pay those scientists $10,000 or so each, it is unlikely that he will ever practice law again in Florida. LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 09:05:13 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/24592378/detail.html
<< respectful snip >>

What's up with all the cancellations lately??
  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I don't know.  Maybe Baez has had to take an emergency medical leave in order to have his foot surgically removed from his mouth? 

Thanks for this news link, Scatty.  Poor Jesse.
Desi,  would he go to a Podiatrist or an oral surgeon for that procedure?? ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyAngel::
Good question!   ::MonkeyHaHa::
 ::MonkeyCool::(... he would need a proctologist and a neurosurgeon for the procedure I wanted to suggest... just sayin'...)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 09:07:44 PM
 https://docs.google.com/document/edi...q2jEVkHo&hl=en
STATE WITNESS LIST
hat tip to  MuzikMan


3 additions to UPDATES on STATE WITNESS LIST - AUGUST 11, 2010


- Dr. Bruce Goldberger - Univ of FL Toxicology - Expert witness - Defense
depo scheduled for Sept 8, 2010

- Dr. David W. Hall, PhD Univ of FL - Expert witness - Defense depo
scheduled for Sept 8, 2010

- James W. Jawitz, PhD PE - Expert witness - water levels - Defense depo
re-scheduled for Sept 8, 2010
__________________


Dr. Jan G - ME - depo rescheduled for Sept 23, 2010
Dr. Gary Utz - ME - depo rescheduled for Sept 23, 2010
__________________


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 11, 2010, 09:08:07 PM
So.... who is paying for this petty schoolyard whiney-baby vendetta against Mark NeJame?

Please don't say it's the Florida taxpayers????   ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 11, 2010, 09:09:07 PM
Mark NeJame Interview
http://www.cfnews13.com/video?clip=http://static.cfnews13.com/newsvideo/cfn/NEJAMEWEBONLY_081120100455.flv

Thanks trim....I for one am going to email Mark and encourage him to PLEASE write a book....He is one that could do exactly what he said...give an honest and truthful account of this tragedy.

I loved it when he mentioned that some people were the 'underbelly of society'........... ::MonkeyDevil::

I would so buy his book.    ::rhino::

As would I ...    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 11, 2010, 09:12:56 PM

For those wondering what the heck a 'body farm' is...

A body farm is a research facility where human decomposition  can be studied in a variety of settings. The aim is to gain a better understanding of the decomposition process, permitting the development of techniques for extracting information (such as the timing and circumstances of death) from human remains. Body farm research is particularly important within forensic anthropology and related disciplines, and has applications in the fields of law enforcement and forensic science. Four such facilities exist in the United States with the research facility at Texas State University being the largest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm)


For those who want to read more:

"What follows may be unsuitable for the squeamish, read on at your risk."
http://www.damninteresting.com/the-remains-of-doctor-bass (http://www.damninteresting.com/the-remains-of-doctor-bass)



I absolutely LOVE Dr. Bass. I have had the opportunity to not only take some of his classes but to do field work with him and he is one of the most interesting men you will ever meet. The "Body Farm" is behind UT hospital on the hill and until not too long ago it was not even fenced off with privacy fencing. No one but the police, med students, nursing , anthropology students and people working in the field had ever been there or knew of it's existence. All of a sudden a big interest in forensics started and boom everyone wanted to see the Body Farm and it became the "place to go" for high school students who were in for a thrill. LOL

Dr. Bass has written some great books in the last few years which are very authethetic to the works of anthropology and forensics. He writes under the name of Jefferson Bass & if you haven't ever read any of his books you have missed a treat. Here is the website.

http://www.jeffersonbass.com/

That is neat ..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 09:18:14 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/24592378/detail.html
<< respectful snip >>

What's up with all the cancellations lately??
  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I don't know.  Maybe Baez has had to take an emergency medical leave in order to have his foot surgically removed from his mouth? 

Thanks for this news link, Scatty.  Poor Jesse.
Desi,  would he go to a Podiatrist or an oral surgeon for that procedure?? ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyAngel::
Good question!   ::MonkeyHaHa::
 ::MonkeyCool::(... he would need a proctologist and a neurosurgeon for the procedure I wanted to suggest... just sayin'...)

WOOHOO!  Now your talking my language!! ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 09:18:50 PM
So.... who is paying for this petty schoolyard whiney-baby vendetta against Mark NeJame?

Please don't say it's the Florida taxpayers????   ::MonkeyShocked::

Yeppers!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 11, 2010, 09:20:05 PM
Night Monks...til tomorrow!  Justice for Caylee and Mark NeJame ROCKS!!! ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 11, 2010, 09:21:39 PM
http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/2010/08/11/pillpopping-dingbat-takes-up-creative-writing/#comments
August 10,2010
Pillpopping Dingbat Takes Up Creative Writing


ROTFL!!!!!     ::MonkeyHaHa::     I just hope we all haven't suffered permanent Anthony Brain Cell Alteration Syndrome, or, as it's known out in the jungle:   ABSAS-- lol.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 11, 2010, 09:23:50 PM
Something I have been noticing is there are usually a large number of "guests" on here about 1:00 AM and later in the mornings. I leave my window open pretty much all the time and check it when I can, but most times I only get to do any research late at night and early in the mornings and some times there have been 20 or so guest reading this board about that time. Interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 11, 2010, 09:25:37 PM
Larry Garrison's SMACKDOWN on Cindy in case anyone missed it before

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/7488005/Casey-Anthony-Cindy-Anthonys-email-about-the-hair-brush


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 11, 2010, 09:26:17 PM
Something I have been noticing is there are usually a large number of "guests" on here about 1:00 AM and later in the mornings. I leave my window open pretty much all the time and check it when I can, but most times I only get to do any research late at night and early in the mornings and some times there have been 20 or so guest reading this board about that time. Interesting.

Baez's law students ???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 11, 2010, 09:28:12 PM
Larry Garrison's SMACKDOWN on Cindy in case anyone missed it before

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/7488005/Casey-Anthony-Cindy-Anthonys-email-about-the-hair-brush

I do hope we hear from him sometime in the distant future ... don't you know he has a story to tell!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 11, 2010, 09:29:50 PM
Something I have been noticing is there are usually a large number of "guests" on here about 1:00 AM and later in the mornings. I leave my window open pretty much all the time and check it when I can, but most times I only get to do any research late at night and early in the mornings and some times there have been 20 or so guest reading this board about that time. Interesting.

Baez's law students ???

I don't know but for about 2 weeks now I have noticed it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 11, 2010, 09:31:06 PM
Larry Garrison's SMACKDOWN on Cindy in case anyone missed it before

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/7488005/Casey-Anthony-Cindy-Anthonys-email-about-the-hair-brush

I do hope we hear from him sometime in the distant future ... don't you know he has a story to tell!

Was he on the state's witness list?  I don't think he would be entitled to privilege since he was just a spokesperson for the Anthonys.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 11, 2010, 09:34:14 PM
Something I have been noticing is there are usually a large number of "guests" on here about 1:00 AM and later in the mornings. I leave my window open pretty much all the time and check it when I can, but most times I only get to do any research late at night and early in the mornings and some times there have been 20 or so guest reading this board about that time. Interesting.

Baez's law students ???

I don't know but for about 2 weeks now I have noticed it.

Interesting ...;  "Well, hello out there in TV Land!" lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 11, 2010, 09:37:35 PM
Quote from: Ono link=topic=8335.msg1205280#msg1205280 date=
Quote from: TURBOTHINK link=topic=8335.msg1205276#msg1205276 date=
Something I have been noticing is there are usually a large number of "guests" on here about 1:00 AM and later in the mornings. I leave my window open pretty much all the time and check it when I can, but most times I only get to do any research late at night and early in the mornings and some times there have been 20 or so guest reading this board about that time. Interesting.

Baez's law students ???

I thought that you had to be a forum member? I suffer from insomnia so i'm here in the wee hours ! Reading don't post much anymore! Mainly read. I will say that I too hope Baez has to pay for all those cancellations with the experts. He is so not doing his job! Could he be out of money? He is lazy and a terrible procrastinator.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 11, 2010, 09:39:23 PM
Larry Garrison's SMACKDOWN on Cindy in case anyone missed it before

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/7488005/Casey-Anthony-Cindy-Anthonys-email-about-the-hair-brush

I do hope we hear from him sometime in the distant future ... don't you know he has a story to tell!

Was he on the state's witness list?  I don't think he would be entitled to privilege since he was just a spokesperson for the Anthonys.


I have no idea ... that's why I inquired earlier ...he's certainly one of CinCin's walking wounded.  He's prudent to remain in the shadows for now;  He was a help to Dave Holloway with Dave's book.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 11, 2010, 09:42:55 PM
Hi Loca-Turbo was noticing "Guests" at those hours, so that wouldn't require membership just to read.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 11, 2010, 09:44:20 PM
Goodnight all ...   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 11, 2010, 09:48:40 PM
Hi ono
I dIdn't know that lol  so it's possible that the defense  is coming to read!! Good they can see we have intelligent monkeys that know their stuff!  I'm sure Cindy comes here! To read since she has so much time. Ya know conway is henpecked by Cindy lol
thanks for the info!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 11, 2010, 09:50:00 PM
I guess BOZO missed another court deadline according to the calendar at humble opinion

http://humbleopinionforum.net/calendar-of-events/

31State to complete depo of expert witness deadline
DISCOVERY:All other witness’ listed no later than 31 Aug


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 11, 2010, 09:56:35 PM
The "latest"  defense deposition list and dates.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/48546512/07292010-Defense-Notice-of-Depos


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 11, 2010, 09:59:56 PM
And now for a little laughter................

http://john.bitbun.com/stouges%201.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Babybear on August 11, 2010, 10:00:36 PM
Larry Garrison's SMACKDOWN on Cindy in case anyone missed it before

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/7488005/Casey-Anthony-Cindy-Anthonys-email-about-the-hair-brush

"I LET you speak to Casey?"  Is that supposed to be some kind of honor, to speak to the tramp of Orlando?  What a pompous idiot.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: mizjay on August 11, 2010, 10:07:41 PM
Something I have been noticing is there are usually a large number of "guests" on here about 1:00 AM and later in the mornings. I leave my window open pretty much all the time and check it when I can, but most times I only get to do any research late at night and early in the mornings and some times there have been 20 or so guest reading this board about that time. Interesting.

Baez's law students ???
Maybe they get extra credit for reports on how many times his name appears??  I sure hope they take into account his various affectionate nicknames.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: david_lohr on August 12, 2010, 12:58:33 AM
David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.

You care sharing a link to that? I've never written any article defending Baez.

(Edit to add link: http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html  MuffyBee)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 12, 2010, 02:09:52 AM
I have a question since you are here. What is the story with you not wanting the money donated to Tim if NeJames did write a book about this case?

I realize you and I had a disagreement when you defended Cindy on another board and you may choose not to answer me now but you claimed to be such good friends with Tim and yet now you don't want the proceeds of a book donated to Tim, so what is up with that?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: akmom on August 12, 2010, 02:43:42 AM
Just wanderin thru late at night, can't sleep....I would literally walk across a burning desert to meet Mr NeJame.....and I would but a book if he wrote it.  He is WAY up there on my list of people who care more about Caylee than his fame.  The fact that he called out Cincin and called her silly just makes me appreciate him all the more.  Here's to you Mark   ::monkeywine2::  Integrity, I think you have it.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 12, 2010, 03:00:20 AM
Just wanderin thru late at night, can't sleep....I would literally walk across a burning desert to meet Mr NeJame.....and I would but a book if he wrote it.  He is WAY up there on my list of people who care more about Caylee than his fame.  The fact that he called out Cincin and called her silly just makes me appreciate him all the more.  Here's to you Mark   ::monkeywine2::  Integrity, I think you have it.....


He has. My vote and respect he is one clAss act




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 12, 2010, 06:56:36 AM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Casey Anthony Out Of Snack Money Again
08/12/10

08/12/10
http://mhutch.blogspot.com/2010/08/casey-anthonys-jail-account-overdrawn.html
Wednesday, August 11, 2010
Casey Anthony's Jail Account Overdrawn Again



http://womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/2010/08/will-casey-anthonys-physical-appearance.html
Thursday, August 12, 2010
Will Casey Anthony’s Physical Appearance and Body Language Help Spare or End Her Life?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: 4 Donks on August 12, 2010, 07:19:44 AM
David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.

You care sharing a link to that? I've never written any article defending Baez. (Edit to add link: http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html  MuffyBee)

December 15, 2008
Jose Baez, lead attorney for Casey Anthony (mother of two-year-old Caylee Anthony), has assembled a seasoned team of defense attorneys and forensic experts for his client's impending first-degree murder trial. Investigation Discovery has compiled a bio on each of those experts to give you a better understanding of who they are and what they do.

Jose Baez

Baez is Casey Anthony's lead defense attorney. According to his Web site, Baez is a former criminologist who received a B.S. degree in criminology from Florida State University.

"Mr. Baez began working for the Miami-Dade County Public Defender's office in 1995. He immediately created a reputation as a fierce advocate who fought his cases until the very end and also distinguished himself by creating a division record for the most trials where he won 32 of 34 jury trials within his first two years with the office. (It should be noted that one of his two losses was a reversed appeal)."

Prior to opening his own private practice, Baez worked for Lexis-Nexis, where he taught judges, lawyers, and law students about methods of using the Internet for investigation.

Baez has been involved in several high-profile cases in Florida, including the defense of Nilton Diaz, Kissimmee Mayor George Gant, and Elvira Garcia.
(Edit to snip article-MuffyBee)

 ::monkeyscissors::



Perhaps you weren't defending him but you certainly "puffed" his professional background. I'll bump the link that was posted on the 10th



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: 4 Donks on August 12, 2010, 07:23:11 AM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html

This is Lohrs blog

Bump for Mr. Lohr


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Scatty on August 12, 2010, 07:25:14 AM
David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.

You care sharing a link to that? I've never written any article defending Baez.

O/T

Er...does this mean we can't talk about you behind your back any more?  ::MonkeyShocked::
Kidding! Kidding!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 12, 2010, 08:02:11 AM
David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.

You care sharing a link to that? I've never written any article defending Baez.

O/T

Er...does this mean we can't talk about you behind your back any more?  ::MonkeyShocked::
Kidding! Kidding!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 12, 2010, 08:11:26 AM
The "latest"  defense deposition list and dates.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/48546512/07292010-Defense-Notice-of-Depos

Thanks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Gizzie on August 12, 2010, 10:12:15 AM
New article from Dr. Glass

http://womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/2010/08/will-casey-anthonys-physical-appearance.html

Thursday, August 12, 2010

Will Casey Anthony’s Physical Appearance and Body Language Help Spare or End Her Life?

 ::monkeyscissors::

Quote
If male jurors in Casey's trial on charges she murdered her own two-year-old daughter, Caylee, also find Casey physically attractive, this may have a significant implications, not only in whether or not she's is found guilty, but also in the degree and severity of her punishment if she is. Thus her physical attractiveness could be a key factor as to whether or not she gets the death penalty.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 12, 2010, 10:23:59 AM
David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.

You care sharing a link to that? I've never written any article defending Baez.

O/T

Er...does this mean we can't talk about you behind your back any more?  ::MonkeyShocked::
Kidding! Kidding!!!

He had been a member since the end of 2008.  You only though you were talking behind his back.

 ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 12, 2010, 10:30:15 AM
Just wanderin thru late at night, can't sleep....I would literally walk across a burning desert to meet Mr NeJame.....and I would but a book if he wrote it.  He is WAY up there on my list of people who care more about Caylee than his fame.  The fact that he called out Cincin and called her silly just makes me appreciate him all the more.  Here's to you Mark   ::monkeywine2::  Integrity, I think you have it.....
Me too akmom.  Good post.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 12, 2010, 10:31:17 AM
Larry Garrison's SMACKDOWN on Cindy in case anyone missed it before

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/7488005/Casey-Anthony-Cindy-Anthonys-email-about-the-hair-brush

"I LET you speak to Casey?"  Is that supposed to be some kind of honor, to speak to the tramp of Orlando?  What a pompous idiot.
::MonkeyHaHa:: Love it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Curly on August 12, 2010, 10:32:05 AM
Larry Garrison's SMACKDOWN on Cindy in case anyone missed it before

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/7488005/Casey-Anthony-Cindy-Anthonys-email-about-the-hair-brush

"I LET you speak to Casey?"  Is that supposed to be some kind of honor, to speak to the tramp of Orlando?  What a pompous idiot.

I caught that, too. Like it's some huge honor.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 12, 2010, 10:45:23 AM
YouTube on December 15, 2008. Within the first couple of minutes, Miller again reviews the reasons he called off the searches. The area they wanted most to search, on Suburban Drive, was flooded. Mr. Miller, in his interview with the State says the same thing (p. 8).

http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2010/08/jose-baez-and-cheney-mason-still.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on August 12, 2010, 11:05:07 AM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html

This is Lohrs blog

That was his blog. It's my understanding that he was let go from there and is now with AOL news.
I remember that he was very close with Sean Krause (may he rest in peace). Can't remember the name of Sean's website, but I know it's now defunct.
he was a troubled, bitter, bitter man.  I do hope he found his way to peace.  He was not a likeable guy, IMO.

His website was called   "the daily bs"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 12, 2010, 11:45:15 AM
http://www.bloggernews.net/125045

Who gives a d*mn if Mark NeJame is punting a book? In fact was rumored that Baez was doing the self same thing until the Judge put a screeching halt on that idea.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 12, 2010, 11:46:50 AM
David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.

You care sharing a link to that? I've never written any article defending Baez. (Edit to add link: http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html  MuffyBee)

December 15, 2008
Jose Baez, lead attorney for Casey Anthony (mother of two-year-old Caylee Anthony), has assembled a seasoned team of defense attorneys and forensic experts for his client's impending first-degree murder trial. Investigation Discovery has compiled a bio on each of those experts to give you a better understanding of who they are and what they do.

Jose Baez

Baez is Casey Anthony's lead defense attorney. According to his Web site, Baez is a former criminologist who received a B.S. degree in criminology from Florida State University.

"Mr. Baez began working for the Miami-Dade County Public Defender's office in 1995. He immediately created a reputation as a fierce advocate who fought his cases until the very end and also distinguished himself by creating a division record for the most trials where he won 32 of 34 jury trials within his first two years with the office. (It should be noted that one of his two losses was a reversed appeal)."

Prior to opening his own private practice, Baez worked for Lexis-Nexis, where he taught judges, lawyers, and law students about methods of using the Internet for investigation.

Baez has been involved in several high-profile cases in Florida, including the defense of Nilton Diaz, Kissimmee Mayor George Gant, and Elvira Garcia.
(Edit to snip article-MuffyBee)

 ::monkeyscissors::



Perhaps you weren't defending him but you certainly "puffed" his professional background. I'll bump the link that was posted on the 10th



"Puffed" is hardly the word.................as it is known that when he worked for Lexis-Nexis he was a stupid clerk - NOT a teacher of judges............geeshhhhhhhhhh


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 12, 2010, 11:59:47 AM
David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.

You care sharing a link to that? I've never written any article defending Baez.

(Edit to add link: http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html  MuffyBee)

Their "Dream Team" you blew up so much has turned into a "Nightmare in Orlando" .........

Ah hello, the liar and proven "manipulator of evidence" Lee in the Spector trial (that was left out) not to mention his so called credentials are more self created than real. He is NOT respected at all in forensics by the real forensics experts and the ones who will be testifying from Tn will chew him up and spit him out before this is over. His college degree was in Political Science with no real science background or anthropology or forensics, just a bunch of honorary degrees.

All the respectable attorneys quit while the Bar took care of some of the others. My problem with all of this hoopla is most of these people are not credible at all and the ones who are seem to be dropping by the wayside which was not reported by you. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 12, 2010, 12:03:45 PM
OT- Remains found identified as Mitrice Richardson
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6208.msg1205743#msg1205743


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 12, 2010, 12:06:53 PM
Cindy's voice mail for Tim Miller.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll7W9QRGo9Y


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2010, 12:09:46 PM
David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.

You care sharing a link to that? I've never written any article defending Baez.

(Edit to add link: http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html  MuffyBee)

Their "Dream Team" you blew up so much has turned into a "Nightmare in Orlando" .........

Ah hello, the liar and proven "manipulator of evidence" Lee in the Spector trial (that was left out) not to mention his so called credentials are more self created than real. He is NOT respected at all in forensics by the real forensics experts and the ones who will be testifying from Tn will chew him up and spit him out before this is over. His college degree was in Political Science with no real science background or anthropology or forensics, just a bunch of honorary degrees.

All the respectable attorneys quit while the Bar took care of some of the others. My problem with all of this hoopla is most of these people are not credible at all and the ones who are seem to be dropping by the wayside which was not reported by you. 
I couldn't agree with you more Turbo. Dr Lee hasn't been credible in years, and not just because of the Spector trial either. The only one imo that does have a good reputation is Linda Kenney Baden, and she needs to back out now before that reputation is ruined  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: 4 Donks on August 12, 2010, 12:09:54 PM
David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.

You care sharing a link to that? I've never written any article defending Baez.

(Edit to add link: http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html  MuffyBee)

Their "Dream Team" you blew up so much has turned into a "Nightmare in Orlando" .........

Ah hello, the liar and proven "manipulator of evidence" Lee in the Spector trial (that was left out) not to mention his so called credentials are more self created than real. He is NOT respected at all in forensics by the real forensics experts and the ones who will be testifying from Tn will chew him up and spit him out before this is over. His college degree was in Political Science with no real science background or anthropology or forensics, just a bunch of honorary degrees.

All the respectable attorneys quit while the Bar took care of some of the others. My problem with all of this hoopla is most of these people are not credible at all and the ones who are seem to be dropping by the wayside which was not reported by you. 

"Mr. Baez began working for the Miami-Dade County Public Defender's office in 1995. He immediately created a reputation as a fierce advocate who fought his cases until the very end and also distinguished himself by creating a division record for the most trials where he won 32 of 34 jury trials within his first two years with the office. (It should be noted that one of his two losses was a reversed appeal)."
I don't believe that Baez was a member of the Bar during this time but worked in this office...he couldn't try anything


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 12, 2010, 12:16:44 PM
David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.

You care sharing a link to that? I've never written any article defending Baez.

(Edit to add link: http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html  MuffyBee)

Their "Dream Team" you blew up so much has turned into a "Nightmare in Orlando" .........

Ah hello, the liar and proven "manipulator of evidence" Lee in the Spector trial (that was left out) not to mention his so called credentials are more self created than real. He is NOT respected at all in forensics by the real forensics experts and the ones who will be testifying from Tn will chew him up and spit him out before this is over. His college degree was in Political Science with no real science background or anthropology or forensics, just a bunch of honorary degrees.

All the respectable attorneys quit while the Bar took care of some of the others. My problem with all of this hoopla is most of these people are not credible at all and the ones who are seem to be dropping by the wayside which was not reported by you. 
I couldn't agree with you more Turbo. Dr Lee hasn't been credible in years, and not just because of the Spector trial either. The only one imo that does have a good reputation is Linda Kenney Baden, and she needs to back out now before that reputation is ruined  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You are right about Baden, but I am wondering if she has left as she was not listed as being notified about the depositions in Knoxville. If she is not there, we can pretty well bet she is gone too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Babybear on August 12, 2010, 12:21:01 PM
David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.

You care sharing a link to that? I've never written any article defending Baez.

(Edit to add link: http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html  MuffyBee)

Their "Dream Team" you blew up so much has turned into a "Nightmare in Orlando" .........

Ah hello, the liar and proven "manipulator of evidence" Lee in the Spector trial (that was left out) not to mention his so called credentials are more self created than real. He is NOT respected at all in forensics by the real forensics experts and the ones who will be testifying from Tn will chew him up and spit him out before this is over. His college degree was in Political Science with no real science background or anthropology or forensics, just a bunch of honorary degrees.

All the respectable attorneys quit while the Bar took care of some of the others. My problem with all of this hoopla is most of these people are not credible at all and the ones who are seem to be dropping by the wayside which was not reported by you. 

"Mr. Baez began working for the Miami-Dade County Public Defender's office in 1995. He immediately created a reputation as a fierce advocate who fought his cases until the very end and also distinguished himself by creating a division record for the most trials where he won 32 of 34 jury trials within his first two years with the office. (It should be noted that one of his two losses was a reversed appeal)."
I don't believe that Baez was a member of the Bar during this time but worked in this office...he couldn't try anything

And wasn't there a period of time when Baez was considered not morally qualified to be licensed in FL?  Something about not paying his bills and child support.  There was a period of several years between the time he got his law degree and was accepted by the FL Bar.  I've also heard that he was selling Brazillian bikinis part of this time.  A more recent odd activity for Mr. Baez was his attendance at some sort of sex seminar.  I haven't heard if you passed or not.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Babybear on August 12, 2010, 12:25:54 PM
David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.

You care sharing a link to that? I've never written any article defending Baez.

(Edit to add link: http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html  MuffyBee)

Their "Dream Team" you blew up so much has turned into a "Nightmare in Orlando" .........

Ah hello, the liar and proven "manipulator of evidence" Lee in the Spector trial (that was left out) not to mention his so called credentials are more self created than real. He is NOT respected at all in forensics by the real forensics experts and the ones who will be testifying from Tn will chew him up and spit him out before this is over. His college degree was in Political Science with no real science background or anthropology or forensics, just a bunch of honorary degrees.

All the respectable attorneys quit while the Bar took care of some of the others. My problem with all of this hoopla is most of these people are not credible at all and the ones who are seem to be dropping by the wayside which was not reported by you. 

"Mr. Baez began working for the Miami-Dade County Public Defender's office in 1995. He immediately created a reputation as a fierce advocate who fought his cases until the very end and also distinguished himself by creating a division record for the most trials where he won 32 of 34 jury trials within his first two years with the office. (It should be noted that one of his two losses was a reversed appeal)."
I don't believe that Baez was a member of the Bar during this time but worked in this office...he couldn't try anything

And wasn't there a period of time when Baez was considered not morally qualified to be licensed in FL?  Something about not paying his bills and child support.  There was a period of several years between the time he got his law degree and was accepted by the FL Bar.  I've also heard that he was selling Brazillian bikinis part of this time.  A more recent odd activity for Mr. Baez was his attendance at some sort of sex seminar.  I haven't heard if you passed or not.

I haven't heard if HE passed.  He! OMG what a mistake.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2010, 12:28:28 PM
I would really like to know if L Baden is still on the defense. I just don't see how she would stay on, but who knows what she is thinking?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 12, 2010, 12:44:35 PM
David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.

You care sharing a link to that? I've never written any article defending Baez.

(Edit to add link: http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html  MuffyBee)

Their "Dream Team" you blew up so much has turned into a "Nightmare in Orlando" .........

Ah hello, the liar and proven "manipulator of evidence" Lee in the Spector trial (that was left out) not to mention his so called credentials are more self created than real. He is NOT respected at all in forensics by the real forensics experts and the ones who will be testifying from Tn will chew him up and spit him out before this is over. His college degree was in Political Science with no real science background or anthropology or forensics, just a bunch of honorary degrees.

All the respectable attorneys quit while the Bar took care of some of the others. My problem with all of this hoopla is most of these people are not credible at all and the ones who are seem to be dropping by the wayside which was not reported by you. 
AMEN.  Baez's ethics leave little to be desired, he has proven that over and over.  He was even willing to take his good friend Geraldo to the wood shed. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 12, 2010, 12:45:38 PM
OT- Remains found identified as Mitrice Richardson
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6208.msg1205743#msg1205743
Thank you Muffy, terrible news.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 12, 2010, 12:49:00 PM
I would really like to know if L Baden is still on the defense. I just don't see how she would stay on, but who knows what she is thinking?
I can't imagine why she would possibly want to stay.  She isn't going to be paid a King's ransom and her reputation if tarnished you would think is worth more than that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 12, 2010, 12:49:24 PM
I was researching something else and ran upon all the emails and things on Topix from Rick her brother. There is some very interesting things in this which I had forgotten. Rick sent all of this to LE. He sure had all of this pegged to the letter from the beginning.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4825540/Casey-Anthony-CindyRickShirley-emails


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 12, 2010, 01:01:08 PM
Client blames Baez for conviction in tot's death

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2009-03-28/news/baez28_1_baez-diaz-conviction

In documents filed this week seeking a new trial and other post-conviction relief, Diaz said, " . . . Mr. Baez wanted to surprise the prosecution, and the surprise blew up in the defense's face."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: david_lohr on August 12, 2010, 01:05:51 PM
David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.

You care sharing a link to that? I've never written any article defending Baez. (Edit to add link: http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html  MuffyBee)

December 15, 2008
Jose Baez, lead attorney for Casey Anthony (mother of two-year-old Caylee Anthony), has assembled a seasoned team of defense attorneys and forensic experts for his client's impending first-degree murder trial. Investigation Discovery has compiled a bio on each of those experts to give you a better understanding of who they are and what they do.

Jose Baez

Baez is Casey Anthony's lead defense attorney. According to his Web site, Baez is a former criminologist who received a B.S. degree in criminology from Florida State University.

"Mr. Baez began working for the Miami-Dade County Public Defender's office in 1995. He immediately created a reputation as a fierce advocate who fought his cases until the very end and also distinguished himself by creating a division record for the most trials where he won 32 of 34 jury trials within his first two years with the office. (It should be noted that one of his two losses was a reversed appeal)."

Prior to opening his own private practice, Baez worked for Lexis-Nexis, where he taught judges, lawyers, and law students about methods of using the Internet for investigation.

Baez has been involved in several high-profile cases in Florida, including the defense of Nilton Diaz, Kissimmee Mayor George Gant, and Elvira Garcia.
(Edit to snip article-MuffyBee)

 ::monkeyscissors::



Perhaps you weren't defending him but you certainly "puffed" his professional background. I'll bump the link that was posted on the 10th



That was an article about the people on her defense team and their backgrounds. I don't see how that is defending him. The article included info from his website.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Curly on August 12, 2010, 01:11:07 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html

This is Lohrs blog

That was his blog. It's my understanding that he was let go from there and is now with AOL news.
I remember that he was very close with Sean Krause (may he rest in peace). Can't remember the name of Sean's website, but I know it's now defunct.
he was a troubled, bitter, bitter man.  I do hope he found his way to peace.  He was not a likeable guy, IMO.

His website was called   "the daily bs"

Thank you. It was driving me crazy. I thought it had "daily" in it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: david_lohr on August 12, 2010, 01:13:04 PM
David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.

You care sharing a link to that? I've never written any article defending Baez.

O/T

Er...does this mean we can't talk about you behind your back any more?  ::MonkeyShocked::
Kidding! Kidding!!!

Does not mater to me. 90% of the stuff I have read is either not true or has nothing to do with me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 12, 2010, 01:13:22 PM

That was an article about the people on her defense team and their backgrounds. I don't see how that is defending him. The article included info from his website.

My problem with it was that being "an investigative reporter" as you claim, you did NO investigation to see if these things were valid. To take something as fact and re-post it and give it credibility to your readers from a website he put up is not good journalism.

Now, back to my question before, what is your problem with TES and Tim?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Curly on August 12, 2010, 01:16:21 PM
I was researching something else and ran upon all the emails and things on Topix from Rick her brother. There is some very interesting things in this which I had forgotten. Rick sent all of this to LE. He sure had all of this pegged to the letter from the beginning.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4825540/Casey-Anthony-CindyRickShirley-emails

Rick is the one thing that has truly amused me throughout this entire debacle.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 12, 2010, 01:17:47 PM

Does not mater to me. 90% of the stuff I have read is either not true or has nothing to do with me.

It DOES matter to you or you would not be here defending your actions. I can assure you that 90% of what you read here is true and I resent the implication it isn't.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: 4 Donks on August 12, 2010, 01:19:17 PM
David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.

You care sharing a link to that? I've never written any article defending Baez. (Edit to add link: http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html  MuffyBee)

December 15, 2008
Jose Baez, lead attorney for Casey Anthony (mother of two-year-old Caylee Anthony), has assembled a seasoned team of defense attorneys and forensic experts for his client's impending first-degree murder trial. Investigation Discovery has compiled a bio on each of those experts to give you a better understanding of who they are and what they do.

Jose Baez

Baez is Casey Anthony's lead defense attorney. According to his Web site, Baez is a former criminologist who received a B.S. degree in criminology from Florida State University.

"Mr. Baez began working for the Miami-Dade County Public Defender's office in 1995. He immediately created a reputation as a fierce advocate who fought his cases until the very end and also distinguished himself by creating a division record for the most trials where he won 32 of 34 jury trials within his first two years with the office. (It should be noted that one of his two losses was a reversed appeal)."

Prior to opening his own private practice, Baez worked for Lexis-Nexis, where he taught judges, lawyers, and law students about methods of using the Internet for investigation.

Baez has been involved in several high-profile cases in Florida, including the defense of Nilton Diaz, Kissimmee Mayor George Gant, and Elvira Garcia.
(Edit to snip article-MuffyBee)

 ::monkeyscissors::



Perhaps you weren't defending him but you certainly "puffed" his professional background. I'll bump the link that was posted on the 10th



That was an article about the people on her defense team and their backgrounds. I don't see how that is defending him. The article included info from his website.

Sorry..I guess I expected more than a copy and paste from you. Thought maybe you'd check out the info first.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 12, 2010, 01:38:02 PM

Does not mater to me. 90% of the stuff I have read is either not true or has nothing to do with me.

It DOES matter to you or you would not be here defending your actions. I can assure you that 90% of what you read here is true and I resent the implication it isn't.

Mr. Lohr, you said on 'in sessions message board' that you and Tim had a disagreement about a search.  Someone asked you if you had expertise on organizing searches. You didn't answer. Would you mind answering here? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 12, 2010, 01:42:08 PM
I guess Mr. Lohr was a hit and run.  Obviously there is something (s) he wants to say. So let's give him the chance, with the understanding that we will ask questions and expect relies. The hit and run method just gets people all riled up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 12, 2010, 01:52:24 PM
David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.

You care sharing a link to that? I've never written any article defending Baez.

(Edit to add link: http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html  MuffyBee)

Their "Dream Team" you blew up so much has turned into a "Nightmare in Orlando" .........

Ah hello, the liar and proven "manipulator of evidence" Lee in the Spector trial (that was left out) not to mention his so called credentials are more self created than real. He is NOT respected at all in forensics by the real forensics experts and the ones who will be testifying from Tn will chew him up and spit him out before this is over. His college degree was in Political Science with no real science background or anthropology or forensics, just a bunch of honorary degrees.

All the respectable attorneys quit while the Bar took care of some of the others. My problem with all of this hoopla is most of these people are not credible at all and the ones who are seem to be dropping by the wayside which was not reported by you. 

"Mr. Baez began working for the Miami-Dade County Public Defender's office in 1995. He immediately created a reputation as a fierce advocate who fought his cases until the very end and also distinguished himself by creating a division record for the most trials where he won 32 of 34 jury trials within his first two years with the office. (It should be noted that one of his two losses was a reversed appeal)."
I don't believe that Baez was a member of the Bar during this time but worked in this office...he couldn't try anything

And wasn't there a period of time when Baez was considered not morally qualified to be licensed in FL?  Something about not paying his bills and child support.  There was a period of several years between the time he got his law degree and was accepted by the FL Bar.  I've also heard that he was selling Brazillian bikinis part of this time.  A more recent odd activity for Mr. Baez was his attendance at some sort of sex seminar.  I haven't heard if you passed or not.

Hey BabyBear.  ::HelloKitty::
Here is where we were discussing Baez back in May of 2009.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4946.960
Here is a link to the complete May 2009 article on Baez.  ::MonkeyCool::
http://crimeshots.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9351


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on August 12, 2010, 01:55:17 PM

Does not mater to me. 90% of the stuff I have read is either not true or has nothing to do with me.

It DOES matter to you or you would not be here defending your actions. I can assure you that 90% of what you read here is true and I resent the implication it isn't.

I agree with you Turbo....Not only have you come here to post and call us liars but you scuttle away butt hurt when your own words are quoted back to you. I don't appreciate the way you flash post and run, if you have something to say lets get some dialog going and hash it out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 12, 2010, 02:36:13 PM

Does not mater to me. 90% of the stuff I have read is either not true or has nothing to do with me.

It DOES matter to you or you would not be here defending your actions. I can assure you that 90% of what you read here is true and I resent the implication it isn't.

I agree with you Turbo....Not only have you come here to post and call us liars but you scuttle away butt hurt when your own words are quoted back to you. I don't appreciate the way you flash post and run, if you have something to say lets get some dialog going and hash it out.

It is always easy to not have to defend your position if you throw out a non nonsensical post and run away but here we try to get to the truth regardless of the "propaganda" dished out to us. That is why many cannot and/or will not post here like on some boards where the moderators stop any dialogue between so called "experts" and the peons.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: klaasend on August 12, 2010, 03:48:10 PM
Wow - must be a slow day over at IS and his blog  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 12, 2010, 04:04:45 PM
David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.

You care sharing a link to that? I've never written any article defending Baez. (Edit to add link: http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html  MuffyBee)

December 15, 2008
Jose Baez, lead attorney for Casey Anthony (mother of two-year-old Caylee Anthony), has assembled a seasoned team of defense attorneys and forensic experts for his client's impending first-degree murder trial. Investigation Discovery has compiled a bio on each of those experts to give you a better understanding of who they are and what they do.

Jose Baez

Baez is Casey Anthony's lead defense attorney. According to his Web site, Baez is a former criminologist who received a B.S. degree in criminology from Florida State University.

"Mr. Baez began working for the Miami-Dade County Public Defender's office in 1995. He immediately created a reputation as a fierce advocate who fought his cases until the very end and also distinguished himself by creating a division record for the most trials where he won 32 of 34 jury trials within his first two years with the office. (It should be noted that one of his two losses was a reversed appeal)."

Prior to opening his own private practice, Baez worked for Lexis-Nexis, where he taught judges, lawyers, and law students about methods of using the Internet for investigation.

Baez has been involved in several high-profile cases in Florida, including the defense of Nilton Diaz, Kissimmee Mayor George Gant, and Elvira Garcia.
(Edit to snip article-MuffyBee)

 ::monkeyscissors::



Perhaps you weren't defending him but you certainly "puffed" his professional background. I'll bump the link that was posted on the 10th



That was an article about the people on her defense team and their backgrounds. I don't see how that is defending him. The article included info from his website.

Sorry..I guess I expected more than a copy and paste from you. Thought maybe you'd check out the info first.

Agree with you.  A True Crime writer conjures expections that what the reader is reading has been verified and cleared of chest pounding fodder the original author may have stretched and inserted  themselves for their own ego  before re posting.  Maybe I don't understand what a True Crime writer is  vs. a Fictional Crime writer or maybe my expectations are wrong. 

Mr. Lohr, I believe it does matter to you or you would not have requested the link to be shared.  Could you please quantify where you are referring the 90% of stuff you read is not true?  Your post about 90% not true and not about you can be interpretted many different ways so please do clarify.
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 12, 2010, 04:29:11 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/08/caylee-anthony-george-cindy-anthony-set-for-today-friday-what-do-you-hope-theyre-asked.html
Main | ‘All My Children’: Orlando 8-year-old lands role »

Caylee Anthony: George, Cindy Anthony set for ‘Today’ Friday; what do you hope they’re asked?
Today” plans to offer a segment called “Remembering Caylee” on Friday morning.

George and Cindy Anthony, the toddler’s grandparents, will appear in the 8 a.m. half-hour. They will be in New York for the interview with Meredith Vieira. What do you hope Vieira asks?

Caylee Anthony would have turned 5 this week. Her mother, Casey Anthony, is charged with first-degree murder in the child’s death.

“Today” starts at 7 a.m. on WESH-Ch. 2.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Scatty on August 12, 2010, 04:32:11 PM
In fairness to David Lohr, I think his "90%" comment was just an off-the-cuff response to a joke I made about talking about him behind his back.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 12, 2010, 04:38:21 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/08/caylee-anthony-george-cindy-anthony-set-for-today-friday-what-do-you-hope-theyre-asked.html
Main | ‘All My Children’: Orlando 8-year-old lands role »

Caylee Anthony: George, Cindy Anthony set for ‘Today’ Friday; what do you hope they’re asked?
Today” plans to offer a segment called “Remembering Caylee” on Friday morning.

George and Cindy Anthony, the toddler’s grandparents, will appear in the 8 a.m. half-hour. They will be in New York for the interview with Meredith Vieira. What do you hope Vieira asks?

Caylee Anthony would have turned 5 this week. Her mother, Casey Anthony, is charged with first-degree murder in the child’s death.

“Today” starts at 7 a.m. on WESH-Ch. 2.


FTLOG can these two not stay away from interviews?  Another show I am not watching and hopefully the ratings will be so dismal that they won't get invited back.  I hope they get asked who's ashes are in the jewellery if Caylee is alive.  I hope they ask why the charade of a memorial if Caylee is alive.  I hope they ask if Cindy has been served with defamation of character papers from Mr Morgan after writing what she did about him.  I hope they ask them to leave and quit doing interviews as you can get more truth out of the Teletubbies than them IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 12, 2010, 04:50:44 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/08/caylee-anthony-george-cindy-anthony-set-for-today-friday-what-do-you-hope-theyre-asked.html
Main | ‘All My Children’: Orlando 8-year-old lands role »

Caylee Anthony: George, Cindy Anthony set for ‘Today’ Friday; what do you hope they’re asked?
Today” plans to offer a segment called “Remembering Caylee” on Friday morning.

George and Cindy Anthony, the toddler’s grandparents, will appear in the 8 a.m. half-hour. They will be in New York for the interview with Meredith Vieira. What do you hope Vieira asks?

Caylee Anthony would have turned 5 this week. Her mother, Casey Anthony, is charged with first-degree murder in the child’s death.

“Today” starts at 7 a.m. on WESH-Ch. 2.


FTLOG can these two not stay away from interviews?  Another show I am not watching and hopefully the ratings will be so dismal that they won't get invited back.  I hope they get asked who's ashes are in the jewellery if Caylee is alive.  I hope they ask why the charade of a memorial if Caylee is alive.  I hope they ask if Cindy has been served with defamation of character papers from Mr Morgan after writing what she did about him.  I hope they ask them to leave and quit doing interviews as you can get more truth out of the Teletubbies than them IMO.

I hope they ask them.... where is all the money you collected in your scam that Caylee was alive knowing all along she was dead and down the streeet? They most likely will be trying to scam more money from unsuspecting people who don't know how horrible these people really are. 

Those two are a waste of air - even worse to me than KC because at least she is not asking for Caylee's BLOOD MONEY.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 12, 2010, 04:55:39 PM
08/12/2010     Reply
to Defendant's Response to Motion to Quash the Court's Order on Defendant's Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum for the Documents in the Possession of Texas Equusearch Based on Bad Faith

08/12/2010     Transaction Assessment      11.99
08/12/2010     Counter Payment  Receipt # CR-2010-50891  Michael Adam Deforest  (11.99)

         http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: anothermonkey on August 12, 2010, 05:06:35 PM
Happy Birthday, Caylee. I hope you're having fun in Heaven!   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 12, 2010, 05:44:17 PM
Care to comment about the Anthonys being on The Today Show........
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10285339


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Curly on August 12, 2010, 05:46:46 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/08/caylee-anthony-george-cindy-anthony-set-for-today-friday-what-do-you-hope-theyre-asked.html
Main | ‘All My Children’: Orlando 8-year-old lands role »

Caylee Anthony: George, Cindy Anthony set for ‘Today’ Friday; what do you hope they’re asked?
Today” plans to offer a segment called “Remembering Caylee” on Friday morning.

George and Cindy Anthony, the toddler’s grandparents, will appear in the 8 a.m. half-hour. They will be in New York for the interview with Meredith Vieira. What do you hope Vieira asks?

Caylee Anthony would have turned 5 this week. Her mother, Casey Anthony, is charged with first-degree murder in the child’s death.

“Today” starts at 7 a.m. on WESH-Ch. 2.


Wow. They just can't stay away.
Hope they ask if they think Casey's guilty and Caylee's still alive.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2010, 05:53:07 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/08/caylee-anthony-george-cindy-anthony-set-for-today-friday-what-do-you-hope-theyre-asked.html
Main | ‘All My Children’: Orlando 8-year-old lands role »

Caylee Anthony: George, Cindy Anthony set for ‘Today’ Friday; what do you hope they’re asked?
Today” plans to offer a segment called “Remembering Caylee” on Friday morning.

George and Cindy Anthony, the toddler’s grandparents, will appear in the 8 a.m. half-hour. They will be in New York for the interview with Meredith Vieira. What do you hope Vieira asks?

Caylee Anthony would have turned 5 this week. Her mother, Casey Anthony, is charged with first-degree murder in the child’s death.

“Today” starts at 7 a.m. on WESH-Ch. 2.

Now this is just plain getting old and tiresome. I ask, who the he!! cares about them being on the Today Show again? Now a segment Remembering Caylee  ::MonkeyNoNo::  Maybe if they got off their butts and went to work, that would be a bombshell.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: cookie on August 12, 2010, 05:59:49 PM
wonder how much the A holes are getting paid this time to get the word out about Caylee? God knows that they don't do anything concerning Caylee unless they are earning money off of her innocent little back..Money that they can put in her murderer's snack account in jail...grrrrrr ::MonkeyMad::  I wish these people would just slink off the face of this earth! slime balls!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 12, 2010, 06:44:15 PM
wonder how much the A holes are getting paid this time to get the word out about Caylee? God knows that they don't do anything concerning Caylee unless they are earning money off of her innocent little back..Money that they can put in her murderer's snack account in jail...grrrrrr ::MonkeyMad::  I wish these people would just slink off the face of this earth! slime balls!

AMen
 this just makes me so angry!! Don't they even care that Anything out of their mouths are lies!! It's not about caylee?! It's about their spoiled princess! Rick plaseas words. This is so disgusting!! I won't view that show! I want true facts! These idiots don't  know  reality!! Their reality is money that they make from caylees death at the hands of their princess. George deserves to be kicked under the bus!? With a steel toe boot up his arse.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 12, 2010, 06:46:05 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/24612251/detail.html
George And Cindy Anthony Talk Caylee, Cindy
Couple's Interview To Air On 'Today Show'
POSTED: 5:43 pm EDT August 12, 2010
UPDATED: 6:23 pm EDT August 12, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- George and Cindy Anthony spoke candidly about the murder case facing their daughter, Casey, and how much they miss their granddaughter, Caylee.

This week, the two sat down with NBC’s Kerry Sanders who asked them how they can seek justice for their granddaughter and support their daughter.
As far as my granddaughter, and not being able to hold her anymore and talk to her, walk her to school, I miss that,” said George Anthony in the interview. “I want that so deeply. I want my daughter home. That would be great to have my daughter home. Then again, we need to see this through.”

George Anthony said does not believe that his daughter, Casey, would have hurt her daughter. He told Sanders he wants to find out the truth.

“We've always said we always wanted to find out what happened to Caylee, no matter where the road or the path takes us,” he said.

“It's a fine line here,” said Cindy Anthony, “because the prosecution is attacking Casey. They're supposed to be doing justice for Caylee. That's why I'm so emphatic that they need to look at every little thing.”

The full interview airs in the 8 a.m. hour of the Today Show on Friday.

Video at link


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 12, 2010, 06:47:50 PM
Mark NeJame on defense against Casey Anthony legal team

Prominent Orlando attorney Mark NeJame went on the defense against Casey Anthony's lawyers Thursday, responding to claims they made earlier in the week about him.

NeJame has accused Anthony's defense team of acting in "bad faith" in pursuing records from his client, Texas EquuSearch, which organized volunteer searches for Anthony's 2-year-old daughter Caylee Marie.

NeJame and Anthony's defense team have fought over the release of Texas EquuSearch's records related to the volunteers who helped look for Caylee.

The toddler's remains were found in December 2008, months after Anthony's family reported the 2-year-old missing. Casey Anthony, 24, faces a charge of first-degree murder in her daughter's death

Earlier this week, Anthony defense attorneys Jose Baez and Cheney Mason blasted NeJame in their own court filing. They claimed NeJame solicited the Anthony family, thwarted defense efforts and approached a "ghost writer" to collaborate on a book about the case.

In their pleading, Anthony's defense team said: "It is blatantly obvious that Mr. NeJame is using this case as more of an attempt to gain publicity than arguing legitimate issues."

"The end result has been a complete and total obstruction of the defense's efforts to seek the truth and a waste of the Court's time and efforts.'

In his response, NeJame said the claim of him seeking publicity in the case "is not only inaccurate but a seemingly desperate attempt to deflect attention from the true issues at hand."

NeJame also states Texas EquuSearch's documents are no longer relevant to Anthony's defense team since Mason "has publicly acknowledged in a television interview to a variety of media outlets that no searchers were able to search the exact area where Caylee Anthony's body was ultimately found."

"The Defense has repeatedly claimed otherwise in multiple pleadings and media statements, maintaining that TES searchers were indeed at the exact location where Caylee was found," NeJame stated.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-nejame-baez-20100812,0,5056604.story


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Post by: mizjay on August 12, 2010, 06:48:27 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/24612251/detail.html
George And Cindy Anthony Talk Caylee, Cindy
Couple's Interview To Air On 'Today Show'
POSTED: 5:43 pm EDT August 12, 2010
UPDATED: 6:23 pm EDT August 12, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- George and Cindy Anthony spoke candidly about the murder case facing their daughter, Casey, and how much they miss their granddaughter, Caylee.

This week, the two sat down with NBC’s Kerry Sanders who asked them how they can seek justice for their granddaughter and support their daughter.
As far as my granddaughter, and not being able to hold her anymore and talk to her, walk her to school, I miss that,” said George Anthony in the interview. “I want that so deeply. I want my daughter home. That would be great to have my daughter home. Then again, we need to see this through.”

George Anthony said does not believe that his daughter, Casey, would have hurt her daughter. He told Sanders he wants to find out the truth.

“We've always said we always wanted to find out what happened to Caylee, no matter where the road or the path takes us,” he said.

“It's a fine line here,” said Cindy Anthony, “because the prosecution is attacking Casey. They're supposed to be doing justice for Caylee. That's why I'm so emphatic that they need to look at every little thing.”

The full interview airs in the 8 a.m. hour of the Today Show on Friday.

Video at link
:pukel: :pukel: :pukel: :pukel:


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2010, 06:50:54 PM
wonder how much the A holes are getting paid this time to get the word out about Caylee? God knows that they don't do anything concerning Caylee unless they are earning money off of her innocent little back..Money that they can put in her murderer's snack account in jail...grrrrrr ::MonkeyMad::  I wish these people would just slink off the face of this earth! slime balls!
You and me both, and the sooner they slink off the face of this earth, the better  ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 12, 2010, 06:53:21 PM
http://www.facebook.com/JaneVelezMitchellHLN
Issues with Jane Velez-Mitchell TOMORROW - You won’t want to miss our special coverage, “Casey Anthony: Tale of the Tapes!” Will mountains of evidence bury the accused murderous mom or does Casey’s defense team have a surprising strategy in store? Want to get ON AIR with your burning questions or comments? E-mail them with your name and phone number to jane@cnn.com


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2010, 06:54:21 PM

“It's a fine line here,” said Cindy Anthony, “because the prosecution is attacking Casey. They're supposed to be doing justice for Caylee. That's why I'm so emphatic that they need to look at every little thing.”
 ::MonkeyEek::  That is what they are doing you delusional witch. They are seeking justice for Caylee, it isn't the prosecutions fault that your daughter killed Caylee. I can't take much more of this  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 12, 2010, 07:01:59 PM

“It's a fine line here,” said Cindy Anthony, “because the prosecution is attacking Casey. They're supposed to be doing justice for Caylee. That's why I'm so emphatic that they need to look at every little thing.”
 ::MonkeyEek::  That is what they are doing you delusional witch. They are seeking justice for Caylee, it isn't the prosecutions fault that your daughter killed Caylee. I can't take much more of this  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You will not make me believe they are not getting paid.Period.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 12, 2010, 07:09:22 PM

“It's a fine line here,” said Cindy Anthony, “because the prosecution is attacking Casey. They're supposed to be doing justice for Caylee. That's why I'm so emphatic that they need to look at every little thing.”
 ::MonkeyEek::  That is what they are doing you delusional witch. They are seeking justice for Caylee, it isn't the prosecutions fault that your daughter killed Caylee. I can't take much more of this  ::MonkeyNoNo::

me Either rose!! It's common knowledge that the a's are full of lies and contradictions!! Why are they paying so much money for lies!! Why why!!! Not interview caseys former friends!! Lovers!! Probably wouldn't be enough room to hold them in the studio(snark)
but realy. There is a member of cindys family that has given insight into  that famililies. Sick dynamics(Rick Plasea) knows and many others but why take the word of these. Liars.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 12, 2010, 07:39:28 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/08/anthonys-another-tv-appearance.html
Thursday, August 12, 2010
Anthonys Another TV Appearance


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2010, 07:41:00 PM
I'm just stunned that anyone would want to see them on TV  ::MonkeyEek::


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Post by: cookie on August 12, 2010, 07:43:06 PM
I just thought of this...is this the "future" funds that the A holes intended in order to get their mortgage taken care of?? those scum bag carpet baggers! betcha they knew this already when they were negotiating to get their mortgage and wouldn't lose their house!!!  plan it around Caylee's birthday,...big payout from the tv network then!!  ::MonkeyMad::


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Post by: ccndixie on August 12, 2010, 07:49:01 PM
I am more than surprised, NRCG, I am shocked.  Thanks for furnishing the link....I sent some rather biting comments about the truth and the Anthonys not being on intimate terms, but I will watch it because apparently I am a masochist.  You know they are getting paid big time.  I am still reeling from the fact that Dominic Casey may in fact have found Caylee's remains but at Baez'$ request did not call LE.  What a freakin' farce.  I think I have myself under control on this and then I get really Pi..ed off again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 12, 2010, 07:56:21 PM
I am more than surprised, NRCG, I am shocked.  Thanks for furnishing the link....I sent some rather biting comments about the truth and the Anthonys not being on intimate terms, but I will watch it because apparently I am a masochist.  You know they are getting paid big time.  I am still reeling from the fact that Dominic Casey may in fact have found Caylee's remains but at Baez'$ request did not call LE.  What a freakin' farce.  I think I have myselfj under control on this and then I get really Pi..ed off again.

omg I sent the same comment


 Omg I sent them the same comment almost





F


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Post by: Ono on August 12, 2010, 08:02:38 PM
I was researching something else and ran upon all the emails and things on Topix from Rick her brother. There is some very interesting things in this which I had forgotten. Rick sent all of this to LE. He sure had all of this pegged to the letter from the beginning.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4825540/Casey-Anthony-CindyRickShirley-emails

Thanks-I had forgotten just how intense these were.    ::MonkeyEek::   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 12, 2010, 08:09:19 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/08/caylee-anthony-george-cindy-anthony-set-for-today-friday-what-do-you-hope-theyre-asked.html
Main | ‘All My Children’: Orlando 8-year-old lands role »

Caylee Anthony: George, Cindy Anthony set for ‘Today’ Friday; what do you hope they’re asked?
Today” plans to offer a segment called “Remembering Caylee” on Friday morning.

George and Cindy Anthony, the toddler’s grandparents, will appear in the 8 a.m. half-hour. They will be in New York for the interview with Meredith Vieira. What do you hope Vieira asks?

Caylee Anthony would have turned 5 this week. Her mother, Casey Anthony, is charged with first-degree murder in the child’s death.

“Today” starts at 7 a.m. on WESH-Ch. 2.


Enough already!!!     ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 12, 2010, 08:16:32 PM
I'm just stunned that anyone would want to see them on TV  ::MonkeyEek::

Maybe nobody does.  LOL   


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2010, 08:16:59 PM
I am more than surprised, NRCG, I am shocked.  Thanks for furnishing the link....I sent some rather biting comments about the truth and the Anthonys not being on intimate terms, but I will watch it because apparently I am a masochist.  You know they are getting paid big time.  I am still reeling from the fact that Dominic Casey may in fact have found Caylee's remains but at Baez'$ request did not call LE.  What a freakin' farce.  I think I have myself under control on this and then I get really Pi..ed off again.
I thought that the shock factor was gone, but no it is not gone. I got ill just thinking that Dom Casey may have found Caylee's remains and did nothing  ::MonkeyShocked:: I can't even look at any of them anymore, they appear to be able to get away with anything, and they just flaunt it in the public's faces  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2010, 08:17:26 PM
I'm just stunned that anyone would want to see them on TV  ::MonkeyEek::

Maybe nobody does.  LOL   
I seriously can't imagine why anyone would.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 12, 2010, 08:39:30 PM
I'm just stunned that anyone would want to see them on TV  ::MonkeyEek::

Maybe nobody does.  LOL   
I seriously can't imagine why anyone would.

Just went to WESH and sneaked a peek at their short video... it's still the same song, different verse.  I cannot understand CinCin's tunnel vision and her inability to simply muster the courage to face clear facts.   When evidence is presented at trial which she does not like, I can clearly envision her causing quite a commotion at some point in time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 12, 2010, 08:43:54 PM
I am more than surprised, NRCG, I am shocked.  Thanks for furnishing the link....I sent some rather biting comments about the truth and the Anthonys not being on intimate terms, but I will watch it because apparently I am a masochist.  You know they are getting paid big time.  I am still reeling from the fact that Dominic Casey may in fact have found Caylee's remains but at Baez'$ request did not call LE.  What a freakin' farce.  I think I have myself under control on this and then I get really Pi..ed off again.
I thought that the shock factor was gone, but no it is not gone. I got ill just thinking that Dom Casey may have found Caylee's remains and did nothing  ::MonkeyShocked:: I can't even look at any of them anymore, they appear to be able to get away with anything, and they just flaunt it in the public's faces  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree-the shock factor is surprisingly alive and well even tho there surely be some sort of  limit to what one can take!  Everything is so repugnant.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2010, 08:43:59 PM
I'm just stunned that anyone would want to see them on TV  ::MonkeyEek::

Maybe nobody does.  LOL   
I seriously can't imagine why anyone would.

Just went to WESH and sneaked a peek at their short video... it's still the same song, different verse.  I cannot understand CinCin's tunnel vision and her inability to simply muster the courage to face clear facts.   When evidence is presented at trial which she does not like, I can clearly envision her causing quite a commotion at some point in time.
We should start taking bets on how many times Lee, Cindy and George will be reprimanded by the judge  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Babybear on August 12, 2010, 08:55:44 PM
David Lohr wrote an article on his blog on Investigation Discovery when people first started calling Baez incompetent. He defended him and really built him up being a Law instructor etc.

You care sharing a link to that? I've never written any article defending Baez.

(Edit to add link: http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html  MuffyBee)

Their "Dream Team" you blew up so much has turned into a "Nightmare in Orlando" .........

Ah hello, the liar and proven "manipulator of evidence" Lee in the Spector trial (that was left out) not to mention his so called credentials are more self created than real. He is NOT respected at all in forensics by the real forensics experts and the ones who will be testifying from Tn will chew him up and spit him out before this is over. His college degree was in Political Science with no real science background or anthropology or forensics, just a bunch of honorary degrees.

All the respectable attorneys quit while the Bar took care of some of the others. My problem with all of this hoopla is most of these people are not credible at all and the ones who are seem to be dropping by the wayside which was not reported by you. 

"Mr. Baez began working for the Miami-Dade County Public Defender's office in 1995. He immediately created a reputation as a fierce advocate who fought his cases until the very end and also distinguished himself by creating a division record for the most trials where he won 32 of 34 jury trials within his first two years with the office. (It should be noted that one of his two losses was a reversed appeal)."
I don't believe that Baez was a member of the Bar during this time but worked in this office...he couldn't try anything

And wasn't there a period of time when Baez was considered not morally qualified to be licensed in FL?  Something about not paying his bills and child support.  There was a period of several years between the time he got his law degree and was accepted by the FL Bar.  I've also heard that he was selling Brazillian bikinis part of this time.  A more recent odd activity for Mr. Baez was his attendance at some sort of sex seminar.  I haven't heard if you passed or not.

Hey BabyBear.  ::HelloKitty::
Here is where we were discussing Baez back in May of 2009.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4946.960
Here is a link to the complete May 2009 article on Baez.  ::MonkeyCool::
http://crimeshots.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9351

Thanks Trim.  When I stop laughing, I'll try to point out a couple of things Mr. Lohr might want to investigate since he claims to be an "Investigative Reporter."

OK, I'll try to restrain myself.  Bon Bon Bikinis, WOO-HOO Please tell me he didn't model those thongs (Second request, Brandi!!!!)

Eight years between graduating from law school and finally being accepted by the FL Bar.  A good reporter might want to find out why, something about unpaid bills, unpaid student loans, unpaid child support. Just minor little monetary problems, doncha know?

But the thing I'd like to have "Investigated" most would be whether or not there really is a "Cosmic Top Security" clearance, which Baez claims to have held in the US Navy, only having received a high school diploma at that time.  This could be a clearance held in the cosmos, like on Mars? I think there's some friggin' in the riggin'.

But when his spokesperson pulled out the race card. Too much even for him.

This Mr. Lohr, is your assignment, should you wish to accept it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Babybear on August 12, 2010, 09:17:31 PM
I am more than surprised, NRCG, I am shocked.  Thanks for furnishing the link....I sent some rather biting comments about the truth and the Anthonys not being on intimate terms, but I will watch it because apparently I am a masochist.  You know they are getting paid big time.  I am still reeling from the fact that Dominic Casey may in fact have found Caylee's remains but at Baez'$ request did not call LE.  What a freakin' farce.  I think I have myself under control on this and then I get really Pi..ed off again.
I thought that the shock factor was gone, but no it is not gone. I got ill just thinking that Dom Casey may have found Caylee's remains and did nothing  ::MonkeyShocked:: I can't even look at any of them anymore, they appear to be able to get away with anything, and they just flaunt it in the public's faces  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree-the shock factor is surprisingly alive and well even tho there surely be some sort of  limit to what one can take!  Everything is so repugnant.

Reminds me of that old children's chant:

Second verse, same as first.
Gotta be better cause it can't be worse.


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Post by: Babybear on August 12, 2010, 09:18:52 PM
I've gotta know, maybe for future reference  (Eeeww.)
Did Jose get a passing grade in that sex seminar?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 12, 2010, 10:04:26 PM
I'm just stunned that anyone would want to see them on TV  ::MonkeyEek::

Maybe nobody does.  LOL   
I seriously can't imagine why anyone would.

Just went to WESH and sneaked a peek at their short video... it's still the same song, different verse.  I cannot understand CinCin's tunnel vision and her inability to simply muster the courage to face clear facts.   When evidence is presented at trial which she does not like, I can clearly envision her causing quite a commotion at some point in time.
We should start taking bets on how many times Lee, Cindy and George will be reprimanded by the judge  ::MonkeyHaHa::


LOL- Good idea...LOL!

If there are any bad behaviours, those bad behaviours will prolly follow the pattern of witnessed past history:  CinCin & George not able to control themselves when they are peeved, and then perhaps...Lee will follow suit just to prove family loyalty, but for some reason, I think Lee has more decency than to really mis-behave in court.  His lame attempt to exhibit moral support for his sister in court and at the memorial service, fell flat, but he tried just the same, probably due to family pressure....Lee may be eccentric, but he isn't foolhardy, IMO.  I don't think Lee is really as disrespectful as are his parents, but then I may be too idealistic! 

Of course, this is, as always, just my opinion and I am probably completely off base!!  lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 12, 2010, 10:09:57 PM
I've gotta know, maybe for future reference  (Eeeww.)
Did Jose get a passing grade in that sex seminar?

Was there really a sex seminar which he participated in ???   I cannot imagine any attorney who cared about his reputation & good name having any connection to such.


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Post by: Northern Rose on August 12, 2010, 10:34:07 PM
at 00:53 the camera goes from behind and you can see a man crouching and a man standing in the doorway arms crossed.  Doorway man looks an awful lot like bald Jim.  Can anyone zoom in on him?

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/24612251/detail.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 12, 2010, 10:34:44 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/24612251/detail.html
George And Cindy Anthony Talk Caylee, Cindy
Couple's Interview To Air On 'Today Show'
ORLANDO, Fla. -- George and Cindy Anthony spoke candidly about the murder case facing their daughter, Casey [...]
<< snipped >>
::MonkeyMad:: Shame on the reporter for using this word.  Everyone knows that "candidly" and the Anthonys are total strangers.  Ugh, disgusting.

-----
can·did 
adj.

1. Free from prejudice; impartial.

2. Characterized by openness and sincerity of expression; unreservedly straightforward.

3. Not posed or rehearsed.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/candid

-----

Give me a break.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Babybear on August 12, 2010, 10:46:18 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/24612251/detail.html
George And Cindy Anthony Talk Caylee, Cindy
Couple's Interview To Air On 'Today Show'
ORLANDO, Fla. -- George and Cindy Anthony spoke candidly about the murder case facing their daughter, Casey [...]
<< snipped >>
::MonkeyMad:: Shame on the reporter for using this word.  Everyone knows that "candidly" and the Anthonys are total strangers.  Ugh, disgusting.

-----
can·did 
adj.

1. Free from prejudice; impartial.

2. Characterized by openness and sincerity of expression; unreservedly straightforward.

3. Not posed or rehearsed.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/candid

-----

Give me a break.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Ever since I became aware of the existence of Cindy Anthony, I have never heard a candid word leave her mouth.  She is a ridiculous person, somehow with the idea that she's important in this world.  She isn't.  She is a person of no importance whatsoever.  She's rude, vulgar, and a liar.  That pretty well sums it up.

I'd like someone to ask her how she can say that Caylee is alive yet say there's no evidence that it was Casey who killed her.  That woman is a waste of space.

And they weren't paid?  HaHaHa.  Everything they do is to get some more blood money.  Guess there's money in having a dead granddaughter and a daughter accused of murder.  Most people wouldn't take advantage of the circumstances to feather their nest.


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Post by: Desdemona on August 12, 2010, 10:49:07 PM
at 00:53 the camera goes from behind and you can see a man crouching and a man standing in the doorway arms crossed.  Doorway man looks an awful lot like bald Jim.  Can anyone zoom in on him?

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/24612251/detail.html
Good eyes, Northern Rose!.  I just watched the video (wasn't going to put myself through it, but oh well)...

Cindy comes across as insidiously deceptive and only marginally sane.  She makes my stomach churn and my blood pressure boil.  Whew.  Her eyes are scary.

Yes, that is Jim Lichtenstein keeping an eye on his prize, and MSNBC's Kerry Sanders is doing the interviewing.  Very interesting hook-ups there.  We saw them together at that recent hearing, remember?  We were all wondering who that guy was that the A's were fawning all over, and who chatted with Jim.  As I recall, Sanders did a stand-up live report of the hearing which was aired the next morning on the Today show (I think)...

Jim's bio ( http://www.j2sc.com/jiml.htm )shows him volleying back and forth between ABC, CBS, and NBC repeatedly in his career.  Latest attachments seem to be NBC, even though he operates as an independent for the most part. 

How odd that he has not left Cindy's side for how long now?  A year and a half?  Have we ever before seen that kind of relentless, close shadowing of the media subject in a murder case?  It seems so strange to me.

(Follow the money..................$$$$)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 12, 2010, 10:54:10 PM
I find it interesting that this latest interview is by Kerry Sanders.  He was the one that hung around team bobo after the last court date, was sitting with Bald Guy Jim in court and Cindy could not keep her hands off of him rubbing his back and shoulders and hugging and smiled so bright when he talked to her after court.  Yet minutes prior she was on the stand in her memory lapsed stooper and bag lady wardrobe meets the 70' Hawaii muumuu and had on her I am so distraught and fragile Rosebud personality #4. 

There was nothing candid about this latest spectacle waste of airwaves.  It was staged and planned with acting couch in room to ensure everything rehearsed went just as it was supposed to according to script prepared IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 12, 2010, 10:57:42 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/24612251/detail.html
George And Cindy Anthony Talk Caylee, Cindy
Couple's Interview To Air On 'Today Show'
POSTED: 5:43 pm EDT August 12, 2010
UPDATED: 6:23 pm EDT August 12, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- George and Cindy Anthony spoke candidly about the murder case facing their daughter, Casey, and how much they miss their granddaughter, Caylee.
<<snipped>>
“It's a fine line here,” said Cindy Anthony, “because the prosecution is attacking Casey. They're supposed to be doing justice for Caylee. That's why I'm so emphatic that they need to look at every little thing.”

The full interview airs in the 8 a.m. hour of the Today Show on Friday.
:pukel: :pukel: :pukel: :pukel:
Yes, mizjay, that video is indeed totally puke-worthy.  It is amazing that the A's never exhaust our ability to be repulsed and disgusted by them. Even after all this time, it never fails to shock us to see how far beyond decent and normal they are constantly willing to go.  They give snakes a bad name, IMO.

It offends us so deeply because Caylee was such a delightful and precious child who deserved MUCH, MUCH better.  Shame on them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: mizjay on August 12, 2010, 10:59:12 PM
at 00:53 the camera goes from behind and you can see a man crouching and a man standing in the doorway arms crossed.  Doorway man looks an awful lot like bald Jim.  Can anyone zoom in on him?

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/24612251/detail.html
Good eyes, Northern Rose!.  I just watched the video (wasn't going to put myself through it, but oh well)...

Cindy comes across as insidiously deceptive and only marginally sane.  She makes my stomach churn and my blood pressure boil.  Whew.  Her eyes are scary.

Yes, that is Jim Lichtenstein keeping an eye on his prize, and MSNBC's Kerry Sanders is doing the interviewing.  Very interesting hook-ups there.  We saw them together at that recent hearing, remember?  We were all wondering who that guy was that the A's were fawning all over, and who chatted with Jim.  As I recall, Sanders did a stand-up live report of the hearing which was aired the next morning on the Today show (I think)...

Jim's bio ( http://www.j2sc.com/jiml.htm )shows him volleying back and forth between ABC, CBS, and NBC repeatedly in his career.  Latest attachments seem to be NBC, even though he operates as an independent for the most part. 

How odd that he has not left Cindy's side for how long now?  A year and a half?  Have we ever before seen that kind of relentless, close shadowing of the media subject in a murder case?  It seems so strange to me.

(Follow the money..................$$$$)

wonder who owns who?   Was there part of a deal brokered at the same time as the pics that was unable to be fulfilled and Cindy has been contracted to fill the obligation or is their deal with him a separate contract?  Also odd that he is with her at every public function, is he protecting his asset, coaching her so she doesn't get herself into hot water so that she can't finish the contract also or is he keeping a journal type thing for a documentary?  He's certainly open about his presence, I wanna know.


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Post by: Desdemona on August 12, 2010, 11:03:00 PM
I find it interesting that this latest interview is by Kerry Sanders.  He was the one that hung around team bobo after the last court date, was sitting with Bald Guy Jim in court and Cindy could not keep her hands off of him rubbing his back and shoulders and hugging and smiled so bright when he talked to her after court.  Yet minutes prior she was on the stand in her memory lapsed stooper and bag lady wardrobe meets the 70' Hawaii muumuu and had on her I am so distraught and fragile Rosebud personality #4

There was nothing candid about this latest spectacle waste of airwaves.  It was staged and planned with acting couch in room to ensure everything rehearsed went just as it was supposed to according to script prepared IMO.
::MonkeyHaHa::  "Rosebud personality #4"

And I agree, there is not one single speck of "candid" anywhere in this sordid attempt to court public opinion.  Look at the words you used here, which accurately reflect what we are seeing:

  "spectacle"  "waste"  "staged"  "planned"  "acting coach"  "rehearsed"  "script"

All to cover up and protect Caylee's murderer.  Nothing less than evil and shameful, IMO.  Poor, poor Caylee!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 12, 2010, 11:03:11 PM
Desi we are on the same thoughts about Kerry.  I found Jim has a movie production company and is currently working on a movie about a lawyer http://www.kathleentzellner.com/privilegedinformation2.html

I think he has to have a deal with the Rosebuds to produce a movie about this when it is all over.  No way is he their velcro new BFF just for the Chili recipe and how to get his socks white again secrets.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 12, 2010, 11:10:01 PM
wonder who owns who?   Was there part of a deal brokered at the same time as the pics that was unable to be fulfilled and Cindy has been contracted to fill the obligation or is their deal with him a separate contract?  Also odd that he is with her at every public function, is he protecting his asset, coaching her so she doesn't get herself into hot water so that she can't finish the contract also or is he keeping a journal type thing for a documentary?  He's certainly open about his presence, I wanna know.
Oh, how I would love to know the truthful answers to these questions you pose, mizjay... I have even wondered if he is filming the whole thing, video-journal style, with a secret camera... I wanna know who his contract is with...  NBC?  Cindy herself?  Both?  Somebody else??? Like Baez? 

It creates the oddest perception, really, for him to ghoulishly shadow Cindy the way he has for so long, with no public explanation whatsoever.  It makes him seem uber-creepy, IMO.  And his constant silent presence emphasizes that Cindy is involved in some secret media thingy...  Nobody seems to care about Caylee except for how they can exploit her memory for their own ends.  It's despicable.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 12, 2010, 11:14:42 PM
Desi we are on the same thoughts about Kerry.  I found Jim has a movie production company and is currently working on a movie about a lawyer http://www.kathleentzellner.com/privilegedinformation2.html

I think he has to have a deal with the Rosebuds to produce a movie about this when it is all over.  No way is he their velcro new BFF just for the Chili recipe and how to get his socks white again secrets.
OMG, I had not seen this.  Thanks for linking it! It is mind-blowingly informative, actually:

(From the link Northern posted)

In their desire to bring their twists on the sensational case to the silver screen, producers a few times since then have approached Zellner, she said, seeking to purchase filmer's rights to the Eyler story. But she has consistently rejected them.

"I thought they just wanted to exploit the violence and gruesomeness of the story," she said.

But a more recent idea, this time coming from Chicago producer Jim Lichtenstein, has captivated the high-profile attorney's attention.

Zellner is on board with plans for actress Jessica Biel to portray her in "Privileged Information," the title for a film Biel is making with Lichtenstein and other co-producers.

The lawyer said she has signed a contract with the producers, selling her movie rights to the story of a case that she has long identified as the one that transformed her career.

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Wow.   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 12, 2010, 11:18:49 PM
wonder who owns who?   Was there part of a deal brokered at the same time as the pics that was unable to be fulfilled and Cindy has been contracted to fill the obligation or is their deal with him a separate contract?  Also odd that he is with her at every public function, is he protecting his asset, coaching her so she doesn't get herself into hot water so that she can't finish the contract also or is he keeping a journal type thing for a documentary?  He's certainly open about his presence, I wanna know.
Oh, how I would love to know the truthful answers to these questions you pose, mizjay... I have even wondered if he is filming the whole thing, video-journal style, with a secret camera... I wanna know who his contract is with...  NBC?  Cindy herself?  Both?  Somebody else??? Like Baez? 

It creates the oddest perception, really, for him to ghoulishly shadow Cindy the way he has for so long, with no public explanation whatsoever.  It makes him seem uber-creepy, IMO.  And his constant silent presence emphasizes that Cindy is involved in some secret media thingy...  Nobody seems to care about Caylee except for how they can exploit her memory for their own ends.  It's despicable.

I have wondered if he is recording everything so he can write his script later but the filming makes sense as well.  A new version of Blair Witch meets Nurse Kratchet on Hopespring low budget docu-drama-full-of-bu77-sh1t with George spelling out REDRUM with his duct tape as Lee skips by with his turtle on a leash to get autographed at the Star Wars convention......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: mizjay on August 12, 2010, 11:26:21 PM
Way back when Baez brokered the picture deal, 200,000 is a lot for just pics. I think there must have been an interview slated with the slunt herself. That didn't happen, she was indicted for capitol murder and then convicted for the fraud, so maybe she can't ever profit or fulfill the obligation??? So, enter mommy the fixer, the media whore. another big reason to keep the party line even against all evidence. $$$ is a huge motivator with them.

It's also an explanation of why , when Bozo was on the hot seat with JS about the ABC deal, Cindy hops up just at the moment they went behind closed doors, another??
Or it's maybe like you said, a video documentary of their whole ordeal, however, none of these people can believe the smut that spews out of Cindy, surely not. It would be an instant flop, she's not credible, she's not likable, she's not even hated enough for people to pay to watch just to pan it. There's something we don't know ( actually lots but you know what I mean)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: mizjay on August 12, 2010, 11:28:08 PM
wonder who owns who?   Was there part of a deal brokered at the same time as the pics that was unable to be fulfilled and Cindy has been contracted to fill the obligation or is their deal with him a separate contract?  Also odd that he is with her at every public function, is he protecting his asset, coaching her so she doesn't get herself into hot water so that she can't finish the contract also or is he keeping a journal type thing for a documentary?  He's certainly open about his presence, I wanna know.
Oh, how I would love to know the truthful answers to these questions you pose, mizjay... I have even wondered if he is filming the whole thing, video-journal style, with a secret camera... I wanna know who his contract is with...  NBC?  Cindy herself?  Both?  Somebody else??? Like Baez? 

It creates the oddest perception, really, for him to ghoulishly shadow Cindy the way he has for so long, with no public explanation whatsoever.  It makes him seem uber-creepy, IMO.  And his constant silent presence emphasizes that Cindy is involved in some secret media thingy...  Nobody seems to care about Caylee except for how they can exploit her memory for their own ends.  It's despicable.

I have wondered if he is recording everything so he can write his script later but the filming makes sense as well.  A new version of Blair Witch meets Nurse Kratchet on Hopespring low budget docu-drama-full-of-bu77-sh1t with George spelling out REDRUM with his duct tape as Lee skips by with his turtle on a leash to get autographed at the Star Wars convention......

LOL LOL   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 12, 2010, 11:41:15 PM
Way back when Baez brokered the picture deal, 200,000 is a lot for just pics. I think there must have been an interview slated with the slunt herself. That didn't happen, she was indicted for capitol murder and then convicted for the fraud, so maybe she can't ever profit or fulfill the obligation??? So, enter mommy the fixer, the media whore. another big reason to keep the party line even against all evidence. $$$ is a huge motivator with them.

It's also an explanation of why , when Bozo was on the hot seat with JS about the ABC deal, Cindy hops up just at the moment they went behind closed doors, another??
Or it's maybe like you said, a video documentary of their whole ordeal, however, none of these people can believe the smut that spews out of Cindy, surely not. It would be an instant flop, she's not credible, she's not likable, she's not even hated enough for people to pay to watch just to pan it. There's something we don't know ( actually lots but you know what I mean)

There are so many hanger-oners  there has to be big lots we don't know as these professional people simply would not be hanging around because they are bored and have nothing better to do.  Desi  summed up Jim L really well.  Then we have Conway who is not getting paid but shows up to hold their hands in court when they are nothing more than spectators. He pops up with them on interviews and clearly has no control over them (thinking of the LKL and Mr Morgan depo's)  What lawyer has that kind of time just to hang out and not get paid for it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 12, 2010, 11:46:20 PM
Regarding Brad Conway, and what is in it for him:  Forgive me for not having the link handy, nor remembering the specifics, but I recall Dominic making a comment in one of his emails that were recently released, that Brad was not getting paid by the A's now, but was sticking around for the whole ride because he was getting a big payoff in the end... I don't think I'm making this up; pretty sure I remember reading that in Dom's emails somewhere.... anyone else recall this?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: mizjay on August 12, 2010, 11:52:08 PM
Way back when Baez brokered the picture deal, 200,000 is a lot for just pics. I think there must have been an interview slated with the slunt herself. That didn't happen, she was indicted for capitol murder and then convicted for the fraud, so maybe she can't ever profit or fulfill the obligation??? So, enter mommy the fixer, the media whore. another big reason to keep the party line even against all evidence. $$$ is a huge motivator with them.

It's also an explanation of why , when Bozo was on the hot seat with JS about the ABC deal, Cindy hops up just at the moment they went behind closed doors, another??
Or it's maybe like you said, a video documentary of their whole ordeal, however, none of these people can believe the smut that spews out of Cindy, surely not. It would be an instant flop, she's not credible, she's not likable, she's not even hated enough for people to pay to watch just to pan it. There's something we don't know ( actually lots but you know what I mean)

There are so many hanger-oners  there has to be big lots we don't know as these professional people simply would not be hanging around because they are bored and have nothing better to do.  Desi  summed up Jim L really well.  Then we have Conway who is not getting paid but shows up to hold their hands in court when they are nothing more than spectators. He pops up with them on interviews and clearly has no control over them (thinking of the LKL and Mr Morgan depo's)  What lawyer has that kind of time just to hang out and not get paid for it?
ITA, Conway's in idle, waiting patiently for a more important role.  I could see, after this is all over, producers courting them but it seems very hinky that they've got them attached at the hip right now. It's all too chummy, Bobo gladhanding, Cindy back rubbing, Conway spinning all up in there.
Cindy becoming the central figure in all public displays, her letters, her cards, her emails, her interviews.......George is basically a sidekick. Maybe he's not as thrilled with the direction things are going and maybe not as reassured that the investigation into his suicide was as benign as Bozo claimed.

Add in the true fact that Baez is barely moving on this trial. I sincerely believe he's just fooling around, bustin chops, showboating until he asks for a plea. He's not acting like he's concerned or dilligent about making a go of it. Where's LKB, she's not in on any forensic details, I feel like it's some major smoke and mirrors going on.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 13, 2010, 12:08:55 AM
Regarding Brad Conway, and what is in it for him:  Forgive me for not having the link handy, nor remembering the specifics, but I recall Dominic making a comment in one of his emails that were recently released, that Brad was not getting paid by the A's now, but was sticking around for the whole ride because he was getting a big payoff in the end... I don't think I'm making this up; pretty sure I remember reading that in Dom's emails somewhere.... anyone else recall this?

I missed that doc dump as we got hit by lightening and it took a while to get the phone lines back.  Not read any of it but I am not surprised to hear that one iota.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 13, 2010, 12:17:51 AM
Regarding Brad Conway, and what is in it for him:  Forgive me for not having the link handy, nor remembering the specifics, but I recall Dominic making a comment in one of his emails that were recently released, that Brad was not getting paid by the A's now, but was sticking around for the whole ride because he was getting a big payoff in the end... I don't think I'm making this up; pretty sure I remember reading that in Dom's emails somewhere.... anyone else recall this?
I missed that doc dump as we got hit by lightening and it took a while to get the phone lines back.  Not read any of it but I am not surprised to hear that one iota.
I just quickly skimmed the notes I made... didn't find that reference right off the bat, so I'm not positive that's where I heard it.  But I thought it was... Sorry for the lack of certainty on this.  If I find it I will post.  (o/t:  Lightening, really?  Wow.  Hope all is well now.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 13, 2010, 12:18:34 AM
I am more than surprised, NRCG, I am shocked.  Thanks for furnishing the link....I sent some rather biting comments about the truth and the Anthonys not being on intimate terms, but I will watch it because apparently I am a masochist.  You know they are getting paid big time.  I am still reeling from the fact that Dominic Casey may in fact have found Caylee's remains but at Baez'$ request did not call LE.  What a freakin' farce.  I think I have myselfj under control on this and then I get really Pi..ed off again.

omg I sent the same comment


 Omg I sent them the same comment almost


F


I said they were scammers who were in it for the money and that they were a disgrace to grandparents everywhere. And a lot of other very ugly things. Scr*w them and the network. I wouldn't watch it for anything because I would end up throwing something at my TV.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 13, 2010, 12:19:50 AM
Accusations fly between Anthony defense and attorny Mark NeJame

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/081010-Anthony-Baez-NeJame


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 13, 2010, 12:25:15 AM
Regarding Brad Conway, and what is in it for him:  Forgive me for not having the link handy, nor remembering the specifics, but I recall Dominic making a comment in one of his emails that were recently released, that Brad was not getting paid by the A's now, but was sticking around for the whole ride because he was getting a big payoff in the end... I don't think I'm making this up; pretty sure I remember reading that in Dom's emails somewhere.... anyone else recall this?
I missed that doc dump as we got hit by lightening and it took a while to get the phone lines back.  Not read any of it but I am not surprised to hear that one iota.
I just quickly skimmed the notes I made... didn't find that reference right off the bat, so I'm not positive that's where I heard it.  But I thought it was... Sorry for the lack of certainty on this.  If I find it I will post.  (o/t:  Lightening, really?  Wow.  Hope all is well now.)

Yup really. I can attest first hand it is not an urban myth to not use the land line during a thunderstorm.  Lightening hit the telphone box down the road and travelled up the cables.  Fried our router/box thing and a few neighbours are still having issues with their phones hearing voices on their lines like the old fashion party lines.

Now if only someone would interview the Rosebuds during a thunderstorm via landline ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 13, 2010, 12:27:07 AM
I'm just stunned that anyone would want to see them on TV  ::MonkeyEek::

Maybe nobody does.  LOL  
I seriously can't imagine why anyone would.

Just went to WESH and sneaked a peek at their short video... it's still the same song, different verse.  I cannot understand CinCin's tunnel vision and her inability to simply muster the courage to face clear facts.   When evidence is presented at trial which she does not like, I can clearly envision her causing quite a commotion at some point in time.
We should start taking bets on how many times Lee, Cindy and George will be reprimanded by the judge  ::MonkeyHaHa::

They won't let them be in the courtroom until their testimony and I am betting the state is smart enough to call them last or after they testify ask they be sent out again in case they want to re-call them. I don't see the state letting them be in there at all to hear what other witnesses say. They didn't let Lee and I am betting in the trial they take the cell phones. They can also keep the witnesses testifying in a room with a LE officer to make sure they don't discuss their testimony after they are on the stand. That is what they do here in murder cases so there can't be any tampering of the testimony.

That will be the end of them both in my opinion because they will be caught in perjury with their testimony.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 13, 2010, 12:35:31 AM
at 00:53 the camera goes from behind and you can see a man crouching and a man standing in the doorway arms crossed.  Doorway man looks an awful lot like bald Jim.  Can anyone zoom in on him?

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/24612251/detail.html



Where the heck are they? They are not in studio. And that does not look like their house. IIRC someone said they had moved into another place, I wonder if that is their "new place."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 13, 2010, 12:52:06 AM
Desi we are on the same thoughts about Kerry.  I found Jim has a movie production company and is currently working on a movie about a lawyer http://www.kathleentzellner.com/privilegedinformation2.html

I think he has to have a deal with the Rosebuds to produce a movie about this when it is all over.  No way is he their velcro new BFF just for the Chili recipe and how to get his socks white again secrets.

Geeshhhhhhhh won't he be disappointed when her and George are charged with felonies for all of their obstruction of justice and all the other things LE is just waiting until after the trial to charge them with.  Then they won't be able to do his movie or collect any money for their participation and the money they have already received will be awarded to the State of Florida. Won't that be fitting for all the scammers?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: akmom on August 13, 2010, 12:53:32 AM
wonder who owns who?   Was there part of a deal brokered at the same time as the pics that was unable to be fulfilled and Cindy has been contracted to fill the obligation or is their deal with him a separate contract?  Also odd that he is with her at every public function, is he protecting his asset, coaching her so she doesn't get herself into hot water so that she can't finish the contract also or is he keeping a journal type thing for a documentary?  He's certainly open about his presence, I wanna know.
Oh, how I would love to know the truthful answers to these questions you pose, mizjay... I have even wondered if he is filming the whole thing, video-journal style, with a secret camera... I wanna know who his contract is with...  NBC?  Cindy herself?  Both?  Somebody else??? Like Baez? 

It creates the oddest perception, really, for him to ghoulishly shadow Cindy the way he has for so long, with no public explanation whatsoever.  It makes him seem uber-creepy, IMO.  And his constant silent presence emphasizes that Cindy is involved in some secret media thingy...  Nobody seems to care about Caylee except for how they can exploit her memory for their own ends.  It's despicable.

I have wondered if he is recording everything so he can write his script later but the filming makes sense as well.  A new version of Blair Witch meets Nurse Kratchet on Hopespring low budget docu-drama-full-of-bu77-sh1t with George spelling out REDRUM with his duct tape as Lee skips by with his turtle on a leash to get autographed at the Star Wars convention......

Okay, just stop right now.....I am pretty sure that this post deserves some kind of award ....LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: mizjay on August 13, 2010, 12:56:51 AM
Desi we are on the same thoughts about Kerry.  I found Jim has a movie production company and is currently working on a movie about a lawyer http://www.kathleentzellner.com/privilegedinformation2.html

I think he has to have a deal with the Rosebuds to produce a movie about this when it is all over.  No way is he their velcro new BFF just for the Chili recipe and how to get his socks white again secrets.

Geeshhhhhhhh won't he be disappointed when her and George are charged with felonies for all of their obstruction of justice and all the other things LE is just waiting until after the trial to charge them with.  Then they won't be able to do his movie or collect any money for their participation and the money they have already received will be awarded to the State of Florida. Won't that be fitting for all the scammers?

Another reason that they (JL) might be getting archival footage now. Just in case. Maybe that got stung on the first go round with casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: ISpy on August 13, 2010, 12:57:22 AM
at 00:53 the camera goes from behind and you can see a man crouching and a man standing in the doorway arms crossed.  Doorway man looks an awful lot like bald Jim.  Can anyone zoom in on him?

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/24612251/detail.html



Evening, all!  Thanks Northern Rose so much for this link! I chose to view this "interview" with the sound off, solely for the purpose of watching body language and facial expression.  It's AMAZING how much you can see when you're not distracted by conversation.  Equally amazing is the number of times both Cindy and George look down during this so-called interview...Hint:  Cindy wins by far.  Defiance, intense anger, and aggression are written all over Cindy as she repeatedly looks down and flips her head sharply up and to the side (and I do mean repeatedly- without the sound it's almost comical, it's so knee-jerkish).  George's body language leaks how hard he is trying to come off as sincere and "honest".  Honest people don't have to work at it; their sincerity is apparent in their relaxed body language.  Without the sound, you can clearly see George straining and over-animating as he tries to compensate.  I just love how we're so wonderfully and amazingly made by God that our bodies will tell the truth, even when we try to lie and deny it... that "What is hidden in the dark will be brought to light." thing!  No amount of coaching can hide that.  All MOO

Oh, one more thing, this was just a planned and (IMO) paid "They're picking on poor Casey!" sob-fest.  If Cindy and George honestly and "candidly" believed Casey was completely innocent and LE was picking on her, they'd have third mortgaged that house and sunk every penny into finding Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales a.k.a. "The Nanny"...instead of dining at the Ritz, taking cruises, getting tatoos and earrings, investigating and trashing everyone under the sun who's ever known Casey, bad-mouthing LE in the press, shoving protesters, shaking hammers at reporters and protesters, spending valuable searching time driving around a movable billboard and putting up flimsy orange tape around the yard, doing countless "interviews", etc..  They'd have spent every second, scouring Zanny's" known haunts (the ones Casey told them and LE about, remember in her LE statement?), setting up surveillance at "Zanny's" apartment, i.e. pursuing "Zanny" with the same zeal, diligence vengeance that they and their P.I. Dominic Casey have used against Jesse Grund, Mr. Grund, Amy Huzienga, and countless others...and not once looking for Caylee any farther than the front door of Tony's apartment.  Deception is a funny thing, much like a two-edged sword.  You play around with it and you're bound to get cut by it.  JMO   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 13, 2010, 01:03:46 AM
at 00:53 the camera goes from behind and you can see a man crouching and a man standing in the doorway arms crossed.  Doorway man looks an awful lot like bald Jim.  Can anyone zoom in on him?

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/24612251/detail.html
Where the heck are they? They are not in studio. And that does not look like their house. IIRC someone said they had moved into another place, I wonder if that is their "new place."
I could be totally wrong, but I think it might be Hopespring, but with TV lighting in place behind them.  Looks like the edge of the dining area, with dining room chairs turned around to face the living area.  Kitchen is visible through the door behind them...  Still, I'm not positive.

At any rate, it does appear to be their own furnishings and their framed pics of Caylee, etc. on that set.  You can see the pics of Caylee behind Kerry Sanders, IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: ISpy on August 13, 2010, 01:24:47 AM
Personally, when this goes to trial, I would like to see Judge Perry ban Baez' blackberry or whatever it is he's busy typing on in court (likewise for Cindy).  Also, a bailiff seated next to Cindy, one with George, and one with Lee to ensure there's no covert communication going on between Baez/Casey and the A's.  Moreover, Judge Perry should also ban the computer monitor at the defense table that Casey's using to check how well she's controlling her facial expression/body language/self-grooming tics.  **Aside to Casey and Baez- We're not as dumb as you think we all are.  Casey's hair is never going to be long enough to hide her body language/facial expressions and you're going to need a much bigger computer monitor to hide her behind.**

Finally, a bailiff or LE officer should escort Cindy, George, and Lee individually to separate waiting witness rooms and guard them in said rooms, to ensure no witness tampering/obstruction of justice is occurring.  It's way too coincidental that Cindy appears to be texting, Baez appears to be texting, and suddenly a computer monitor has begun showing up, conveniently placed in front of Casey.  The computer monitor showing up and Baez showing his handheld to Casey during Cindy and Lee's testimonies, respectively, brought back oh-so vivid memories of Lee addressing his laptop screen at "Caylee's" Memorial as he sobbed brokenly, "C-M-A! ...(blah-blah-blah)".  If I were Judge Perry (or the State's Attorneys Office), I'd be filing a search warrant for Cindy's device, Baez' device, any device/computer Lee owned, and possibly his attorney's computers for that date and time period.  Clearly, none of these people respect authority, nor obey the law, given all the documentation to the contrary in the document releases from this case to date.  All my own opinion and I have no problem owning it.     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on August 13, 2010, 01:29:35 AM
at 00:53 the camera goes from behind and you can see a man crouching and a man standing in the doorway arms crossed.  Doorway man looks an awful lot like bald Jim.  Can anyone zoom in on him?

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/24612251/detail.html
Where the heck are they? They are not in studio. And that does not look like their house. IIRC someone said they had moved into another place, I wonder if that is their "new place."
I could be totally wrong, but I think it might be Hopespring, but with TV lighting in place behind them.  Looks like the edge of the dining area, with dining room chairs turned around to face the living area.  Kitchen is visible through the door behind them...  Still, I'm not positive.

At any rate, it does appear to be their own furnishings and their framed pics of Caylee, etc. on that set.  You can see the pics of Caylee behind Kerry Sanders, IMO.

I recognize the furnishings and artwork, but I'm not sure it's Hopespring. Last I heard, that house was either on the brink of or already in foreclosure. I recall they had moved close by. Cindy opens her mouth and stupid just falls out.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: She says that there is no forensic evidence of Casey where Caylee was found? Wow, Cindy! Maybe if Caylee had been found sooner, Casey wouldn't have been so lucky! Other than her skeletal scattered remains and hair stuck to duct tape, there wasn't any evidence of Caylee either!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on August 13, 2010, 01:34:41 AM
Personally, when this goes to trial, I would like to see Judge Perry ban Baez' blackberry or whatever it is he's busy typing on in court (likewise for Cindy).  Also, a bailiff seated next to Cindy, one with George, and one with Lee to ensure there's no covert communication going on between Baez/Casey and the A's.  Moreover, Judge Perry should also ban the computer monitor at the defense table that Casey's using to check how well she's controlling her facial expression/body language/self-grooming tics.  **Aside to Casey and Baez- We're not as dumb as you think we all are.  Casey's hair is never going to be long enough to hide her body language/facial expressions and you're going to need a much bigger computer monitor to hide her behind.**

Finally, a bailiff or LE officer should escort Cindy, George, and Lee individually to separate waiting witness rooms and guard them in said rooms, to ensure no witness tampering/obstruction of justice is occurring.  It's way too coincidental that Cindy appears to be texting, Baez appears to be texting, and suddenly a computer monitor has begun showing up, conveniently placed in front of Casey.  The computer monitor showing up and Baez showing his handheld to Casey during Cindy and Lee's testimonies, respectively, brought back oh-so vivid memories of Lee addressing his laptop screen at "Caylee's" Memorial as he sobbed brokenly, "C-M-A! ...(blah-blah-blah)".  If I were Judge Perry (or the State's Attorneys Office), I'd be filing a search warrant for Cindy's device, Baez' device, any device/computer Lee owned, and possibly his attorney's computers for that date and time period.  Clearly, none of these people respect authority, nor obey the law, given all the documentation to the contrary in the document releases from this case to date.  All my own opinion and I have no problem owning it.     

Hi ISpy! If Cindy and George testify, and the "rule" is requested, then neither Cindy nor George will be allowed in the courtroom, at least until their testimony is fully given. After that, if they are allowed back in, I'd like to see a gum monitor on Cindy fastened to her ankle that would deliver an electric shock everytime she chewed.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 13, 2010, 01:35:03 AM
at 00:53 the camera goes from behind and you can see a man crouching and a man standing in the doorway arms crossed.  Doorway man looks an awful lot like bald Jim.  Can anyone zoom in on him?

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/24612251/detail.html
Where the heck are they? They are not in studio. And that does not look like their house. IIRC someone said they had moved into another place, I wonder if that is their "new place."
I could be totally wrong, but I think it might be Hopespring, but with TV lighting in place behind them.  Looks like the edge of the dining area, with dining room chairs turned around to face the living area.  Kitchen is visible through the door behind them...  Still, I'm not positive.

At any rate, it does appear to be their own furnishings and their framed pics of Caylee, etc. on that set.  You can see the pics of Caylee behind Kerry Sanders, IMO.

I recognize the furnishings and artwork, but I'm not sure it's Hopespring. Last I heard, that house was either on the brink of or already in foreclosure. I recall they had moved close by. Cindy opens her mouth and stupid just falls out.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: She says that there is no forensic evidence of Casey where Caylee was found? Wow, Cindy! Maybe if Caylee had been found sooner, Casey wouldn't have been so lucky! Other than her skeletal scattered remains and hair stuck to duct tape, there wasn't any evidence of Caylee either!

The bottom line is Cindy has NO IDEA what the state has and for her to be saying that is just another example of their lies. We know as much if not more than she does, and there are MANY pages left out of many of those reports.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 13, 2010, 01:36:02 AM
OT Sylar Newton update: Authorities say remains found Tuesday are those of 2-year-old Arizona boy

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8313.msg1206549#msg1206549


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on August 13, 2010, 01:39:38 AM
OT Sylar Newton update: Authorities say remains found Tuesday are those of 2-year-old Arizona boy

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8313.msg1206549#msg1206549

Ohhhhh geeez. Thank you, Muffy, for letting us know! God Bless that little boy!  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on August 13, 2010, 01:42:50 AM
at 00:53 the camera goes from behind and you can see a man crouching and a man standing in the doorway arms crossed.  Doorway man looks an awful lot like bald Jim.  Can anyone zoom in on him?

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/24612251/detail.html
Where the heck are they? They are not in studio. And that does not look like their house. IIRC someone said they had moved into another place, I wonder if that is their "new place."
I could be totally wrong, but I think it might be Hopespring, but with TV lighting in place behind them.  Looks like the edge of the dining area, with dining room chairs turned around to face the living area.  Kitchen is visible through the door behind them...  Still, I'm not positive.

At any rate, it does appear to be their own furnishings and their framed pics of Caylee, etc. on that set.  You can see the pics of Caylee behind Kerry Sanders, IMO.

I recognize the furnishings and artwork, but I'm not sure it's Hopespring. Last I heard, that house was either on the brink of or already in foreclosure. I recall they had moved close by. Cindy opens her mouth and stupid just falls out.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: She says that there is no forensic evidence of Casey where Caylee was found? Wow, Cindy! Maybe if Caylee had been found sooner, Casey wouldn't have been so lucky! Other than her skeletal scattered remains and hair stuck to duct tape, there wasn't any evidence of Caylee either!

The bottom line is Cindy has NO IDEA what the state has and for her to be saying that is just another example of their lies. We know as much if not more than she does, and there are MANY pages left out of many of those reports.

ITA, Turbo. I can't help but wonder how Cindy will view all of this if it actually goes to trial and she listens to all the evidence. Personally, I can't see Cindy changing her stripes no matter what.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 13, 2010, 01:59:44 AM
http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/24612251/detail.html

"But yet, there's nothing.  Their[sic] must be saying that Casey ... must have been so calculated that she was able to ... put Caylee's remains down there without any ... [here Cindy suddenly blinks, frowns, looks down, pauses to think] ... any ... ANY link ... to her."

This is between 1:33 and 2:12 in the video.
----

Everyone may not agree, but I find it suspiciously odd that Cindy would refer to Caylee as "remains" in this context.

If Cindy is trying to challenge the theory that Casey dumped Caylee on Suburban shortly after having killed her, then we are not talking about "remains." What was "put down there" at that time would have been Cindy's precious Caylee.  Or Caylee's still-intact body... a BODY, which would not become "remains" -- until she had lain out there in the swamp and the woods for months, to be skeletonized, ravaged by insects, and torn apart and scattered by scavenging animals.
 ::MonkeyMad::

In other words, at the time Caylee was DUMPED (referred to by Cindy as "being put down there") -- at the time that Casey would have last been in contact with Caylee's body and therefore left evidence -- she would have been handling a deceased Caylee.

When I think about it, I find the phrase "...to put Caylee's remains down there..." to be worth questioning.

It may seem like a small discrepancy, but I'm thinking this may have been a verbal slip-up.  In fact, to me, in the video Cindy seems to react to having made a faux-pas when she realizes what she has said.  To me it looks like an uh-oh moment, when she frowns, looks down, and pauses.  She seems momentarily shaken by it, and then finishes the thought and rallies herself to start angrily listing the evidence she claims "they" DON'T have on Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: ISpy on August 13, 2010, 02:02:41 AM
Computer problem- had to jump out, dry off, and jump back in!  LOL! 

CBB- too funny!  Gum monitor for Cindy!  I hear you!  She & George couldn't obey court rules if their lives depended on it.  My neighbor takes a med that gives her "cotton mouth" and I could understand if Cindy applied for special gum chewing privileges, but what's George's excuse?  It's their blatant disrespect in the little things that only seals their lack of credibility in the big things.

My concern during Cindy's testimony is what was preventing Baez from texting (or whatever) info to Lee in another room and vice versa?  Likewise what was preventing Lee from/his attorney from skyping (or whatever) to Casey's computer monitor? What was preventing Casey from viewing or sending verbal cues to or from Lee, via her computer monitor?  Flat out, straight up, I don't trust Cindy, George, Lee, Casey, Baez, Lee's attorney, Brad Conway, Jim Lichtenstein, or Kerry Sandler (sp?) either.  I'm not saying these people did anything illegal, just saying things looked mighty hinky during those proceedings and some of the above named people have been cited/quoted/caught in outright lies/contradictions/deceptions or as Cindy's fond of calling them "mis-truths" (passes given to Brad, Jim, and Kerry as I'm not aware of such regarding them to date).  Clarified with, I dislike that for which Brad Conway seems to stand-his choice and continued support of the Anthonys as grief-stricken grandparents fighting for their innocent daughter's freedom from persecution by LE. MOO, yet again.   ::MonkeyWink::   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 13, 2010, 02:03:49 AM
Oh, and something else about the teaser video:

>>> Cindy, if you believe Caylee is still alive, then why don't you use your media time to plead with her kidnappers to return her and thereby exonerate Casey in the process?

>>> If you believe Caylee is still alive, then why don't you look into the camera every chance you get, and speak directly to HER?  After all, you are her "Cece" and she must be missing you terribly if she is still alive out there somewhere.  For shame!  Why don't you speak to her?

>>> If you believe Caylee is still alive, then why should you care whether Casey's DNA or fingerprints have been found on the "remains" of some unidentified child found down the block from your home?

I could go on and on... but I'll stop there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 13, 2010, 02:04:33 AM
Totally agree with ISpy that texting should not be allowed in court.  Maybe it will be prohibited during the trial. I hope so.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: ISpy on August 13, 2010, 02:20:42 AM
Desi- You go, Girl!  I share your righteous indignation here!  I completely agree with you too.  No grandparent of a murdered beloved grandchild is going to casually refer to that grandchild as "[the child's name]'s remains".  No way, no how, not going to happen-it's too emotionally damaging and re-traumatizes the grandparent to think about it.

I also found Cindy's argument interesting that there's no evidence (DNA, fingerprints, etc.) to connect Casey to "Caylee's remains".  Of course, that doesn't begin to explain how all the items that Caylee was found with came directly from the Anthony home though.  I'd like the interviewer to ask Cindy & George exactly how the Nanny they've never seen/met/talked to, and who's never been to their home to their knowledge would know: that George kept the key to the locked outside shed in the nightstand drawer (who does that?!); where to find the oh-so-rare brand of duct tape in the shed; where to find the cloth clothes hamper in the garage; and where to find Casey's scrapbooking hearts in the bottom of her dresser (i.e. cabinet) in a shoe box?  Boy, that Nanny must have had a lot of spare time on her hands!  ::MonkeyTongue:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 13, 2010, 02:41:08 AM
Computer problem- had to jump out, dry off, and jump back in!  LOL! 

CBB- too funny!  Gum monitor for Cindy!  I hear you!  She & George couldn't obey court rules if their lives depended on it.  My neighbor takes a med that gives her "cotton mouth" and I could understand if Cindy applied for special gum chewing privileges, but what's George's excuse?  It's their blatant disrespect in the little things that only seals their lack of credibility in the big things.

My concern during Cindy's testimony is what was preventing Baez from texting (or whatever) info to Lee in another room and vice versa?  Likewise what was preventing Lee from/his attorney from skyping (or whatever) to Casey's computer monitor? What was preventing Casey from viewing or sending verbal cues to or from Lee, via her computer monitor?  Flat out, straight up, I don't trust Cindy, George, Lee, Casey, Baez, Lee's attorney, Brad Conway, Jim Lichtenstein, or Kerry Sandler (sp?) either.  I'm not saying these people did anything illegal, just saying things looked mighty hinky during those proceedings and some of the above named people have been cited/quoted/caught in outright lies/contradictions/deceptions or as Cindy's fond of calling them "mis-truths" (passes given to Brad, Jim, and Kerry as I'm not aware of such regarding them to date).  Clarified with, I dislike that for which Brad Conway seems to stand-his choice and continued support of the Anthonys as grief-stricken grandparents fighting for their innocent daughter's freedom from persecution by LE. MOO, yet again.   ::MonkeyWink::   

hilarious about  the gum monitor. I went to the Msn site to post and it must be truly busy I couldnt post.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on August 13, 2010, 02:43:39 AM
I just think that Cindy's "field of argument" is so narrowed by evidence that the location of Caylee's remains is all she has left. I mean, where else is she to go? She can't touch the timeframe after Casey left! That takes her to party pictures! She can't go past the party........... that takes her Zanny! She can't go to the car! That takes her to Chloroform and a death smell! If she backs up too much, she finds herself in the middle of computer searches for manner of murder!

Cindy's stuck in the same swamp that Casey left Caylee in. That's somehow rather appropriate and the end of the road for her. JMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 13, 2010, 02:45:30 AM
Desi- You go, Girl!  I share your righteous indignation here!  I completely agree with you too.  No grandparent of a murdered beloved grandchild is going to casually refer to that grandchild as "[the child's name]'s remains".  No way, no how, not going to happen-it's too emotionally damaging and re-traumatizes the grandparent to think about it.

I also found Cindy's argument interesting that there's no evidence (DNA, fingerprints, etc.) to connect Casey to "Caylee's remains".  Of course, that doesn't begin to explain how all the items that Caylee was found with came directly from the Anthony home though.  I'd like the interviewer to ask Cindy & George exactly how the Nanny they've never seen/met/talked to, and who's never been to their home to their knowledge would know: that George kept the key to the locked outside shed in the nightstand drawer (who does that?!); where to find the oh-so-rare brand of duct tape in the shed; where to find the cloth clothes hamper in the garage; and where to find Casey's scrapbooking hearts in the bottom of her dresser (i.e. cabinet) in a shoe box?  Boy, that Nanny must have had a lot of spare time on her hands!  ::MonkeyTongue:: 

My challenge to Rosebud comes from a different place.  If her precious daughter was such a good mother then why is there no DNA from said wonderful mother on her small daughter?  Did Caylee get dressed by herself, put on her own shoes, get  in and out of the car seat and buckle and unbuckle by herself, pick up her mama doll everytime she dropped it all by herself, not get kissed, hugged, hold hands, brush hair out of eyes, wipe mouth, change diaper, straighten clothes, lift her, brush off food crumbs or dirt,  or have other close affectionate contact that would happen many times a day with a child that small?  I am sure my pets have my DNA all over them and I find it astonishing that Rosebud can say no DNA no murder and not wonder or bat an eye that  there would be not supposedly be one shred of DNA transfer from caring mother to daughter?  Ahhh but wait, she was such a wonderful mother that she never got close enough for the DNA transfer to ever happen or always wore a hazmat suit when she was in close contact with Caylee.  Bullsnit on all accounts!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on August 13, 2010, 02:51:45 AM
Desi- You go, Girl!  I share your righteous indignation here!  I completely agree with you too.  No grandparent of a murdered beloved grandchild is going to casually refer to that grandchild as "[the child's name]'s remains".  No way, no how, not going to happen-it's too emotionally damaging and re-traumatizes the grandparent to think about it.

I also found Cindy's argument interesting that there's no evidence (DNA, fingerprints, etc.) to connect Casey to "Caylee's remains".  Of course, that doesn't begin to explain how all the items that Caylee was found with came directly from the Anthony home though.  I'd like the interviewer to ask Cindy & George exactly how the Nanny they've never seen/met/talked to, and who's never been to their home to their knowledge would know: that George kept the key to the locked outside shed in the nightstand drawer (who does that?!); where to find the oh-so-rare brand of duct tape in the shed; where to find the cloth clothes hamper in the garage; and where to find Casey's scrapbooking hearts in the bottom of her dresser (i.e. cabinet) in a shoe box?  Boy, that Nanny must have had a lot of spare time on her hands!  ::MonkeyTongue:: 

My challenge to Rosebud comes from a different place.  If her precious daughter was such a good mother then why is there no DNA from said wonderful mother on her small daughter?  Did Caylee get dressed by herself, put on her own shoes, get  in and out of the car seat and buckle and unbuckle by herself, pick up her mama doll everytime she dropped it all by herself, not get kissed, hugged, hold hands, brush hair out of eyes, wipe mouth, change diaper, straighten clothes, lift her, brush off food crumbs or dirt,  or have other close affectionate contact that would happen many times a day with a child that small?  I am sure my pets have my DNA all over them and I find it astonishing that Rosebud can say no DNA no murder and not wonder or bat an eye that  there would be not supposedly be one shred of DNA transfer from caring mother to daughter?  Ahhh but wait, she was such a wonderful mother that she never got close enough for the DNA transfer to ever happen or always wore a hazmat suit when she was in close contact with Caylee.  Bullsnit on all accounts!

EXACTLY, EXACTLY, EXACTLY!!!

AND disputing that Casey was the last one with Caylee just throws them back to Zannyland, and that dog just won't hunt! There's just WAY too many ways to prove that Zanny doesn't exist. Once that's proven, the WHY Casey lied about it screams at you.

Casey's toast....... burnt toast, at that!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: ISpy on August 13, 2010, 02:58:21 AM
You know, watching this little cameo (as Casey calls it), a thought came to mind.  Why is Kerry Sanders conducting this "interview"...the same Kerry Sanders who Cindy was overjoyed to see when court adjourned July 15th, the same Kerry Sanders Cindy warmly hugged and very comfortable rubbed his back?   Then it dawned on me, this was a practice "interview" for Cindy (and George, but more so Cindy).  This was a chance to put the coaching that Cindy's obviously been getting into play in a "safe" environment with a "safe" person (one well-known to Cindy and well-trusted by Cindy and possibly recommended/approved/facilitated by Jim Lichtenstein), asking controlled (i.e. scripted) questions with equally practiced answers.  There were no hard questions, followed by analytical questions as any interviewer worth his/her salt would surely ask.  Cindy practiced her non-answer to them believing or not believing Casey killed Caylee by deflecting the question with, "It's a fine line.  The prosecution...".  Funny how she was unwilling to simply answer the question.  Even with all the coaching (and I'm sure there's been plenty), Cindy's eyes (among other things) still flash with anger and the spectre of the Zenaida Fernadez Gonzales depositions fiasco instantly comes to mind.  She's still in there, although they've tried to hide her under that flat shade of washed-out-with-grief drag-my-face-down blonde hairstyle, the more subdued clothing befitting someone her age, the toned down jewelry, the obvious lack of Caylee accessories (notice George no longer carries "Caylee" to court), the missing green shamrock ("We support you, Casey.") buttons, the perpetual "tired" look Cindy wears into court (but not after court) and in interviews ( the IMO, affected air of weariness/grief/frailty), and the barest hint of makeup.  I am so not buying what these people are selling on their little infomercial...Selling Out Caylee To Save Casey.  All MOO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on August 13, 2010, 03:01:34 AM
Infomercial is a great word for it, ISpy! You've hit the nail on the head!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 13, 2010, 03:04:09 AM
http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/24612251/detail.html

"But yet, there's nothing.  Their[sic] must be saying that Casey ... must have been so calculated that she was able to ... put Caylee's remains down there without any ... [here Cindy suddenly blinks, frowns, looks down, pauses to think] ... any ... ANY link ... to her."

This is between 1:33 and 2:12 in the video.
----

Everyone may not agree, but I find it suspiciously odd that Cindy would refer to Caylee as "remains" in this context.

If Cindy is trying to challenge the theory that Casey dumped Caylee on Suburban shortly after having killed her, then we are not talking about "remains." What was "put down there" at that time would have been Cindy's precious Caylee.  Or Caylee's still-intact body... a BODY, which would not become "remains" -- until she had lain out there in the swamp and the woods for months, to be skeletonized, ravaged by insects, and torn apart and scattered by scavenging animals.
 ::MonkeyMad::

In other words, at the time Caylee was DUMPED (referred to by Cindy as "being put down there") -- at the time that Casey would have last been in contact with Caylee's body and therefore left evidence -- she would have been handling a deceased Caylee.

When I think about it, I find the phrase "...to put Caylee's remains down there..." to be worth questioning.

It may seem like a small discrepancy, but I'm thinking this may have been a verbal slip-up.  In fact, to me, in the video Cindy seems to react to having made a faux-pas when she realizes what she has said.  To me it looks like an uh-oh moment, when she frowns, looks down, and pauses.  She seems momentarily shaken by it, and then finishes the thought and rallies herself to start angrily listing the evidence she claims "they" DON'T have on Casey.

WOW............what a good catch there..............I did not have any sound on the one I watched for some reason, so I was closely watching the body language and expressions and I know exactly where that was because of your description of her behavior. I wondered what she was talking about.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: ISpy on August 13, 2010, 03:49:49 AM
Northern Rose and CBB-  You're absolutely correct on all counts!  Both logical and intelligent arguments!

Northern Rose- You raise another good point!  Someone needs to ask Cindy why there weren't any fingerprints or DNA from Casey (according to her) in or on the trunk of Casey's pontiac?  Wouldn't a good mother have been in the trunk, loading groceries to feed her child for 31 days (or how about the nearly two years prior)?  Wonder if there were prints and DNA on the steering wheel, door handles (any of them), diaper bag, car seat, or any of the other surfaces a mom would normally have touched in the course of driving her toddler around, say for the better part of nearly two years?  Isn't it odd there weren't any Caylee prints on that trunk?  Isn't it odd there were no stray Casey hairs (according to Cindy), especially given that Casey seemed to spend a lot of time in that car (eating in it and all, carrying clothes for herself and Caylee to "the Nanny's" or some boyfriend's house, Cindy stating they routinely would put Caylee's dirty diapers back there, etc.)?  A lack of fingerprints means nothing.  What nurse hasn't heard of gloves?  What daughter perusing Missing Children's cases on the internet hasn't heard of gloves?  For that matter, what daughter perusing household weapons and neck-breaking (allegedly) hasn't heard of gloves?  What a stupid argument.  I guess Caylee did dress herself (diaper included) and brushed her own hair, just like she got her own breakfast and drink in the morning.  ::MonkeyTongue::  You know, it's not too hard to put on a pair of gloves, chloroform your child, wrap her face in duct tape sealed with heart sticker, and put her in the trunk to die.  Likewise, it's not too hard to wear gloves, wrap the deceased in a blanket, put her in a clothes hamper, double wrap the whole package in trash bags, and throw it the trunk.  Just like it's not to hard to remove those gloves, drive less than a mile from your home, put on a fresh pair of gloves, and heave that child into a swampy, dense forest, take the gloves off, drive home or wherever to wash your hands/wash or dispose of your clothes and anything else.
Just thought of something, most of you likely caught long ago!  It's interesting in George Anthony's LE statements he says he asked the tow yard guy (Simon Burch) to walk around and look inside [the trunk of] the car.  He then says "Opened it...".  The odd sentence structure doesn't tell us exactly who opened it-George, Simon Burch, the two of them holding the key together?  Wonder why-hmmmm.  That's significant to me because if George opened it, there should be prints...his.  If Simon Burch opened it (which I find highly unlikely due to the legalities of opening a stranger's car, much less one that Simon clearly recognized as reeking of decomp), there should be prints...his.  In either scenario, the trunk was far from "cleaned" and there would have been either man's prints on the lid from closing it, prior to George driving away. It certainly would have been more than one print.  Clearly, someone in possession of the car, after it left the Tow Yard cleaned prints from the outside of the trunk.  Who closes a trunk with one finger?   ::MonkeyConfused::   As usual, MOO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 13, 2010, 07:08:22 AM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Cindy And George Anthony To Appear On The Today Show
08/12/10


http://mhutch.blogspot.com/2010/08/mark-nejame-responds-to-casey-anthonys.html
Thursday, August 12, 2010
Mark NeJame Responds To Casey Anthony's Defense Team


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 13, 2010, 07:55:50 AM
Accusations fly between Anthony defense and attorny Mark NeJame

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/081010-Anthony-Baez-NeJame

You know, IMO, this whole attack on MNJ regarding the Texas EquuSearch files is nothing but a tempest in a teapot over a moot point. Maybe their real fear is the looming prospect of future book which MNJ might perhaps co-author.  A book which would paint a different picture, upsetting the applecart of a future movie/book that the Anthonys and their media babysitters have up their sleeves. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 13, 2010, 08:07:20 AM
Totally agree with ISpy that texting should not be allowed in court.  Maybe it will be prohibited during the trial. I hope so.

Me too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 13, 2010, 08:10:57 AM
Desi- You go, Girl!  I share your righteous indignation here!  I completely agree with you too.  No grandparent of a murdered beloved grandchild is going to casually refer to that grandchild as "[the child's name]'s remains".  No way, no how, not going to happen-it's too emotionally damaging and re-traumatizes the grandparent to think about it.

I also found Cindy's argument interesting that there's no evidence (DNA, fingerprints, etc.) to connect Casey to "Caylee's remains".  Of course, that doesn't begin to explain how all the items that Caylee was found with came directly from the Anthony home though.  I'd like the interviewer to ask Cindy & George exactly how the Nanny they've never seen/met/talked to, and who's never been to their home to their knowledge would know: that George kept the key to the locked outside shed in the nightstand drawer (who does that?!); where to find the oh-so-rare brand of duct tape in the shed; where to find the cloth clothes hamper in the garage; and where to find Casey's scrapbooking hearts in the bottom of her dresser (i.e. cabinet) in a shoe box?  Boy, that Nanny must have had a lot of spare time on her hands!  ::MonkeyTongue:: 

And another point regarding CinCin's slip of the tongue---George is sitting right beside her and we all remember how ballistic he went when the term "remains" were used in Mr. Morgan's depo.  But here she is freely saying it in front of George.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 13, 2010, 08:12:07 AM
Anthonys On The Today Show
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/38688689#38688689


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Irish Monkey on August 13, 2010, 08:18:51 AM
I'm so disgusted with these people I need to do some ugly coping!         ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 13, 2010, 08:59:53 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-parents-today-show-20100813,0,4842581.story
Casey Anthony's parents on Today: 'A lot of stuff doesn't make sense'
The grandparents of slain Caylee Marie Anthony make their latest appearance on national television just days after the little girl would have turned 5.

By Bianca Prieto, Orlando Sentinel

8:39 a.m. EDT, August 13, 2010
Casey Anthony's parents, George and Cindy Anthony, reiterated their support for their daughter this morning during their latest appearance on national television.

Today host Meredith Vieira interviewed the Anthonys live from a studio in New York.

"I'm not certain of all of the forensic evidence," Cindy Anthony said, when asked why she still thinks her slain granddaughter Caylee is alive. "A lot of stuff doesn't make sense."

Their appearance was preceded by a recorded report by NBC's Kerry Sanders, who talked to the Anthonys on Wednesday.

The couple was interviewed inside their home on Hopespring Drive in east Orlando. Footage shows images of Casey's bedroom and Caylee's nursery, which have been left mostly the same, Sanders said.

Caylee's room has become a "shrine," he said.

Cindy Anthony speculated that Casey may have "seen" something related to the case. There was no elaboration.

The family celebrated what would have been Caylee's 5th birthday Monday by planting a bush in the backyard near the child's playhouse. The Anthonys, son Lee and his girlfriend, Mallory Parker, gathered for a dinner and cake to remember the toddler.

"We talked about how much she meant to us," George Anthony said.

Today's interview marks the latest in a string of national television appearances for George and Cindy Anthony. In June, they appeared on ABC's Good Morning America to discuss the 2-year-anniversary of their granddaughter's disappearance.

At the time, George Anthony called the last two years "just unbearable" and he displayed a tattoo he had inked on his chest to commemorate the little girl, who would have turned 5 on Monday.

Her remains were found near the home she had shared with her grandparents and her mother, Casey Anthony, who is accused of killing the little girl in 2008.

Casey Anthony has been at the Orange County Jail since October 2008 on a first-degree murder charge.

Bianca Prieto can be reached at bprieto@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5620.



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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 09:39:14 AM

"I'm not certain of all of the forensic evidence," Cindy Anthony said, when asked why she still thinks her slain granddaughter Caylee is alive. "A lot of stuff doesn't make sense."      ::MonkeyNoNo::  It isn't working Cindy, obviously you are saying this crap to taint the jury pool, have at it, won't work. All people will take from this is you are insane.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 13, 2010, 09:52:12 AM
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Interviewing George and Cindy Anthony: It’s a thankless task. The parents of Casey Anthony rarely say anything new in their nationally televised interviews.

That was the case again this morning on NBC’s “Today” in a live interview with Meredith Vieira. George and Cindy did get a trip to New York, and perhaps they could compare parenting notes with Dina Lohan, who gave “Today” an exclusive interview about troubled daughter Lindsay.

So the interview evidently paid off for the Anthonys, but it was a bust for viewers. The couple talked about marking what would have been granddaughter Caylee’s 5th birthday on Monday. “We tried to think of all the good things that that little girl brought into our lives every single day,” George said.

Their daughter, Casey, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of Caylee. The Anthonys held a memorial service for Caylee, but Cindy said last month that she believes the little girl is still alive.   

“I’m not certain of all the forensic evidence,” Cindy told Vieira. ”There’s a lot that just doesn’t make sense to me. I have not been able to find anything in it that actually proves it’s Caylee.”

Cindy added that she has had “other people” looking at the forensic evidence. Who could those people be?

Vieira asked if Cindy is saying there’s a cover-up or is it too painful to believe the child is dead. “I don’t know,” Cindy said. “A lot of stuff just doesn’t make sense to me.”

If that’s the case, maybe she should stay off television. Or Cindy could start watching “Dr. G: Medical Examiner.”


Vieira asked Cindy about her 911 call that set the case in motion two years ago. “I was hysterical,” Cindy said. “I don’t know why I said what I said.”
Cindy added that she never thought there was a dead body in the car, even though that’s what she said in the 911 call. “Knowing what I know now, I probably would have never even have made that statement,” Cindy told Vieira.

Yet in an interview with NBC’s Kerry Sanders that preceded the Vieira chat, Cindy said she wouldn’t change anything on the 911 calls. “It wasn’t anything rehearsed,” Cindy said.

Cindy’s lack of consistency is infuriating.

Vieira asked if George and Cindy still have total faith in Casey. “I’m going to stand behind Casey because No. 1 I’m her father,” George said. “I want to find out what happened to Caylee. I do. … So does Cindy. I just can’t throw my hands up or just be done with my daughter.”

But what is his reaction to Casey’s allegations that he sexually abused her? Vieira didn’t ask.

Sanders’ taped report took viewers into Caylee’s bedroom, which remains a shrine. Cindy defended her daughter, saying nothing in the evidence links Casey to Caylee’s murder.

Sanders asked if they have considered that Casey killed her daughter. George said maybe he’s in denial. ”Maybe Casey panicked,” Cindy said. ”Casey might have seen something or someone else.”

Whatever that might mean. Sanders had 81 minutes with the Anthonys, and you’ll find his interview at msnbc.com. Let’s see if there’s more there.

Yet George and Cindy hardly said anything to justify that trip to New York. That’s what happens when you put confused people who are in denial on national television. They need therapy, not airtime.


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Post by: shy-monkey on August 13, 2010, 09:52:50 AM
Hi all-boy oh boy how I have missed this forum, I am so far behind now and am dying to see this interview.Until then I do have a couple of comments and a question. Sorry this is so long, it does have a purpose.

First comment is explaining why I'm not among the anti-George and Cindy group-I'm not necessarily for them either, but 9 years ago I could have been them and up to the point where I was living it, I could have written a book on exactly what to do, how I'd be-etc. Not only was the picture a little different looking out from the inside, when it was my own family it was affecting, the whole call police, report her to child protection, was a little, as in a whole LOT more involved than a simple call the authorities and the child protection fairies fly in and fix everything. Knowing what I know now they would only be called if I dialed them by accident-they were 0 help and after filing a report, that turned in to us kidnapping, we could be of no help either.

Anyway back to my could have been George and Cindy story and why I have followed this story, since day 1. Jail straightened my daughter up, (thank you God) by the time her son was a year and a half and when her son was 5 she had the most amazing little girl ever. A little girl that just happened to be born 4 months after Caylee and when this case first broke, daily, we all heard various versions of "she looks so much like that missing girl in Florida!" A few even quizzed my daughter for details to rule out M wasn't a Caylee sighting.

The combination of it all that made me realize the story of her and my grandson could have just as easily not been the happy ending we are so thankful to have gotten. B's mom was also an older teenage mom, by older I mean this happened when she was 18-19, so she was also a legal adult, with 100% control over her own minor son, even though she was my daughter and they were living in my home. The first time I realized beyond any doubt that H was drugged up and being an idiot leaving for days at a time, I called my 20 year old pregnant daughter's work and had her come home early. Her and her husband were staying with me to be closer to the hospital and because of the whole H situation. Up until that day I had hopes that maybe I was wrong and had family reminding me H was my daughter and family needs to help family, not drag in outside authority. She's my daughter, I raised her so it was easy to agree until the day I was yanked out of denial. The day I decided I had no choice but to take on raising a grandson, 4 months older than my youngest daughter and have his mom booted out completely until she chose to get her act together.

After a giant scene of her threats, after we refused to let her in the house and all her other weird cracked out behavior, we called 911-it killed me but I was out of options and B wasn't safe with these new friends. It killed me to make the call because she is my daughter, so some of the blame should be mine, I had to have failed her some how, but looking at her son, he had no choice and we all truly feared for his life. I wanted him safe and away from drugs and alcohol so I hysterically called CPS-knowing that call could easily be the call that caused my daughter to hate me for life. The immediate goal was B's well being.

To put it lightly that plan failed tremendously. I only avoided getting handcuffed because my 20 year old married, pregnant daughter took the entire fall for the so called "kidnapping" charges, H filed on us when the police and CPS showed up. When B was dumped off on my doorstep that same morning he was a mess. (Dumped meaning, strapped in his carseat with a quick ring of the doorbell and a sprint back to her ride before I could stop her)-she later said she knew I'd keep him under any circumstances, but she was done listening to my stupid lectures). He was 8 months old at this time and he stunk so bad we were all gagging. we ended up tossing his ruined clothes they stunk and were not fixable. B had a runny nose, smelled like a crap covered cigarette and had poop all the way up the back of his clothes to being matted in his Hair I was livid. My mom, my oldest daughter and I sat for hours trying to figure out how to go about keeping him with me and her, who the hell cared at that time. We finally decided we would finish up her laundry, pack a few bags full of clothes, food, makeup, shampoo etc, change the locks and pray she straightened up before ending up dead or in prison for life. All the above caused the scene which lead to the 911 calls we made, that got the police there to remove H and witness her wild rant. Wrong-we had her son in our house, refusing to let his mother have him- H claimed her bizarre behavior was due to us kidnapping her son and she demanded to press kidnapping charges on us. first mistake, B was clean and cared for when they showed up-they don"t write reports on clean cared for kids, they said had we called when he was initially dumped off they could have came and written a report, 3 non life threatening reports and she could end up losing her son. Kidnapping charges, you just need one. Filing an unfounded CPS report is also punishable, I can't remember how much jail time we both could have faced had she disputed our claims and them ending up as closed and unfounded claims.

That's the day we all watched a crying baby boy get in a car with a bunch of wasted losers-yes the police knew all but the driver were high,  evidently it isn't against the law to be high on various legal and illegal drugs, it's illegal to posses and/or use illegal drugs and neither CPS or the police had witnessed them using. When the police asked them if they were under any influence they said "no" and when they asked if they could search their car another "no" so other than giving the driver a DUI test and have him willingly blow in a balloon deal and pass, there was nothing they could do. Well besides escorting my name calling daughter, who now hated all of us, in to the house to get the rest of her stuff, and tell us that as long as we leave her the eff alone she would consider dropping the felony kidnapping charges against her sister. Our hopeless search for my grandson ended a few months later when H called from jail begging me to try to locate and get custody of her son.

They allowed me to go in to the jail to get a list of places he may be and while I was there the police pulled me aside to let me know that after pulling all of H's arrest and CPS records, they learned that she had since had multiple CPS complaints and with all of them combined they "might" have enough to legally remove him from her custody. Um she was in jail so duh-that was a given. Then this same cop that had handcuffed my oldest kid for bogus kidnapping charges, proudly told me all about proper procedures and how they may take extra time, but at the end of it all they're great at what they do and have cases like H's to prove it-he also, out of the kindness of his heart?-did my oldest daughter the big huge favor of sending a copy of the full report to the PA in hopes the kidnapping charges would be dropped even if H tried to push the issue. Regardless we couldn't even apply for temporary custody of B with the pending kidnapping charges, but still??? I was speechless. I could literally go on forever but long story short he was removed and put in protected foster care-3 houses worth-the first one had another foster child his age, die in their care soon after they took in B, so he was moved, 2 days after that move another foster child at home 2 drowned-evidently they weren't approved for infants and toddlers because their above ground pool wasn't fenced with a locking gate, but, as they said " with the shortage of foster homes in this county sometimes those type of trivial details get overlooked."  especially on weekends.

By foster home 3 it had been about a month and my remorseful daughter had sobered up, realized what she had done, was willing to spend the rest of her life in jail, be killed whatever, she just wanted B back with me. Her in total agreement, had me go to court with B's dad, to establish paternity, then custody and set up a transition to his dad's.
 
They're all great now but after watching her self destruction over that year and since talking about what had happened, she says she's not sure-that being a full time mom and working full time had made her really tired. A coworker gave her meth and she could keep up and then some, but somewhere along the path of keeping up, the meth took over and between withdrawells and needing more and more to get the same effects, she lost herself and turned in to someone she hated. The line between her choosing drugs and drugs choosing her was so blurred she can't even say when her downward spiral began.

All of Casey Anthony's actions during the time Caylee was missing reminded me of a totally addicted meth etc druggie, but everyone close to this case remains adamant that she only drank, never used drug, except maybe pot a couple of times. I'm just wondering if they've ever clinically backed up. Or if I'm the only one that thinks she was using. Not that, that's an excuse for what she did to her daughter, but it could be a reason, and that said drug tragedies with examples like Caylee, have the potential to scare people from even using the first time. Even if it only saved one kid, maybe I'm wishful thinking, there just seems to be more and more Haleigh, Caylee, Syler with drugs a factor type stories lately.

Last comment is after 2+ years of thinking about had this been my story and my grandchild killed, by his mother. I'm not 100% sure I would have acted any different than they have. Everything about Cindy's tone the day she called Casey in reminded me of the day I called my daughter in. Had it went from my initial phone call to *your daughter, killed her kid, drove around in her car with her dead baby in the back, then tossed her out like garbage* I think my first thought would be total shock and being horrified. Then between a mental breakdown and trying to wrap my head around all of it, I can see where a combination of where did I go wrong-I shoulda-coulda etc thoughts combined with someone backing me up and actually making me picture my kid doing this mind boggling series of events to her own child, might possibly cause a sigh of relief. Relief caused because at that point all the "scared to take a fish off the hook" ......"wouldn't take a dead mouse off a trap" etc scared of anything dead stories come flooding in to be used as mental confirmation that the kid in question wouldn't be capable of doing this to a mouse, so no way could she to her own child. whew....at that point crap like the whole zanny the nanny story pale in details and may be easy to buy in to.

After Caylee was found, this was a common topic where I live, with everyone pointing out the obvious stuff that screamed Casey was lying and looking guilty and how her parents are idiots for not seeing it. I will admit watching from the outside made me question how they couldn't see the obvious too. Still overly focused on figuring out what I would really do if this was my daughter and my family involved, I always had to ask what made others so sure they'd see the same lies and act no different even if it was their kid accused. To explain almost everyone started off in a pretend scene, playing the role of Casey's mom or Casey's dad, using unknown to them, Casey as the daughter in question-Once I'd explain my question clearer and was asking a generic what if same everything, except the people involved were their own family, nearly everyone couldn't answer since they claim there is no way their daughter could even read about that horrific of a crime, let alone take part in it-noway- then they'd quickly move on to telling wouldn't hurt a fly, total daddy's girl type stories as proof-never could be their kid.  A few years ago I'm pretty sure it couldn't have been George and Cindy's kid either.

I think George and Cindy bounce back and forth from denial, their daughter couldn't have done this even had she wanted to, to the realization she is guilty and there's a real chance that besides Caylee being gone, they could also be losing their only daughter. Cindy's 911 call obviously didn't cause what happened to Caylee, but I can't help thinking Cindy blames herself for starting the ball rolling towards a possible death sentence.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 13, 2010, 09:54:33 AM
http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2010/08/13/george-and-cindy-anthony’s-body-language-and-facial-leaks-on-today-show-reveal-they-may-believe-casey-killed-caylee-but-cindy-still-spins-blame-on-others/
George and Cindy Anthony’s Body Language and Facial Leaks on Today Show Reveal They May Believe Casey Killed Caylee But Cindy Still Spins Blame On Others
08/13/10


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Post by: ccndixie on August 13, 2010, 09:58:08 AM
This is a really bitchy comment but I can't resist - someone had remarked earlier that women of a certain age need to re-think sleeveless dresses.  This is especially true of Rosebud, particularly since she has porked up considerably since the early days of stressouts and no sleep.  Her upper arms looked like Virginia hams.  (So do mine, but I try to keep them covered up.)  Only one more characteristic of a really disgusting situation. 


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 09:58:43 AM
shy-monkey thank-you for sharing your story  ::MonkeyAngel::  I have tried to put myself and what I would have done if I were Cindy. I can honestly say, I don't know, but what I do know is that I never would have been so public making comments and going on TV shows. I'm a private person and that wouldn't be in my behavior, also I know that I wouldn't have lied or obstructed justice, that is against what I believe, I would back her, I wouldn't cover for her.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 10:00:38 AM
This is a really bitchy comment but I can't resist - someone had remarked earlier that women of a certain age need to re-think sleeveless dresses.  This is especially true of Rosebud, particularly since she has porked up considerably since the early days of stressouts and no sleep.  Her upper arms looked like Virginia hams.  (So do mine, but I try to keep them covered up.)  Only one more characteristic of a really disgusting situation. 
Mine are covered also, and my arms aren't as flabby, I just don't want to make anyone sick looking at my arms  ::MonkeyHaHa::   
Yet George and Cindy hardly said anything to justify that trip to New York. That’s what happens when you put confused people who are in denial on national television. They need therapy, not airtime.  ::MonkeyCool::  Now this is the best statement I've seen in a long time.


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Post by: Desdemona on August 13, 2010, 10:06:15 AM
"The family celebrated what would have been Caylee's 5th birthday Monday by planting a bush in the backyard near the child's playhouse. "

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-parents-today-show-20100813,0,4842581.story

 ::MonkeyEek::


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 10:07:11 AM
"The family celebrated what would have been Caylee's 5th birthday Monday by planting a bush in the backyard near the child's playhouse. "

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-parents-today-show-20100813,0,4842581.story

 ::MonkeyEek::
I swear the two of them need to be locked up in a rubber room, that is all I can say.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 13, 2010, 10:07:28 AM
Meredith Vieira Interview with The Anthonys
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/38690422#38690422
08/13/10


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Post by: ccndixie on August 13, 2010, 10:09:05 AM
Shy-Monkey-----WOW!  What a post.  You sound heroic to me, having been thru stuff none of us want to even consider happening in our own families.  I see no comparison between you and Cin-Cin based on your honesty and willingness to admit that maybe your daughter's actions could have been partially caused by something you did or failed to do.  Sounds as though everything turned out good for you.  Thanks for sharing that...a new perspective is always great to hear.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 13, 2010, 10:14:37 AM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/08/my-instinct-by-cindy-anthony.html
Friday, August 13, 2010
Cindy Anthony: Family Involvement?


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Post by: Irish Monkey on August 13, 2010, 10:25:08 AM
Thanks for the links Trim.  Those were spot on!


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Post by: Desdemona on August 13, 2010, 10:27:34 AM
When asked his take on the fact that the prosecution believes Casey killed Caylee, all George can come up with, over and over again, is "I don't wanna believe that my daughter is capable..."  yadda yadda

He never says "I DON'T BELIEVE" she did it.  Just that he doesn't WANT to believe it.

And each time he's asked about Casey's possible culpability, he says he believes "someone else" had to have been involved.  He is equivocating:  He wants Cindy to think he means someone else, and not their precious Casey.  But he actually comes across (IMO) as non-verbally accepting Casey's guilt, while theorizing that someone else, who remains at large, must have been involved.

Oh.  And how can Cindy justify her inexplicable certainty that Casey didn't harm Caylee?  According to Cindy, it's a no-brainer.  Ready? 

Fact:  Casey is made from the same cloth as Cindy. 
Fact:  Cindy herself could never harm another person or do anything violent. 

Voila!  Solid proof of Casey's innocence.  Next question?
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Oh, and what does the future hold?  Well, this time next year (according to Cindy) Casey will be home after being exonerated, helping her parents with their renewed efforts with the Caylee foundation.......  Right.  And then pigs will fly, Cindy. 

Note: This is in my own words; just observations from watching the Sanders interview.  Thanks for the links, Trimm.


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Post by: Scatty on August 13, 2010, 10:28:26 AM
http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/24612251/detail.html

"But yet, there's nothing.  Their[sic] must be saying that Casey ... must have been so calculated that she was able to ... put Caylee's remains down there without any ... [here Cindy suddenly blinks, frowns, looks down, pauses to think] ... any ... ANY link ... to her."

This is between 1:33 and 2:12 in the video.
----

Everyone may not agree, but I find it suspiciously odd that Cindy would refer to Caylee as "remains" in this context.

If Cindy is trying to challenge the theory that Casey dumped Caylee on Suburban shortly after having killed her, then we are not talking about "remains." What was "put down there" at that time would have been Cindy's precious Caylee.  Or Caylee's still-intact body... a BODY, which would not become "remains" -- until she had lain out there in the swamp and the woods for months, to be skeletonized, ravaged by insects, and torn apart and scattered by scavenging animals.
 ::MonkeyMad::

In other words, at the time Caylee was DUMPED (referred to by Cindy as "being put down there") -- at the time that Casey would have last been in contact with Caylee's body and therefore left evidence -- she would have been handling a deceased Caylee.

When I think about it, I find the phrase "...to put Caylee's remains down there..." to be worth questioning.

It may seem like a small discrepancy, but I'm thinking this may have been a verbal slip-up.  In fact, to me, in the video Cindy seems to react to having made a faux-pas when she realizes what she has said.  To me it looks like an uh-oh moment, when she frowns, looks down, and pauses.  She seems momentarily shaken by it, and then finishes the thought and rallies herself to start angrily listing the evidence she claims "they" DON'T have on Casey.

Was "HELP" the word Cindy had to stop herself from saying? The word "help" must raise all kinds of ramifications in her mind.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 13, 2010, 10:29:49 AM
Thanks for the links Trim.  Those were spot on!

We are all gonna need therapy after this trial.   ::MonkeyEek::


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Post by: Desdemona on August 13, 2010, 10:36:55 AM
Thanks for the links Trim.  Those were spot on!
We are all gonna need therapy after this trial.   ::MonkeyEek::
::MonkeyShocked:: We have to wait till AFTER?


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Post by: Irish Monkey on August 13, 2010, 10:38:56 AM
Thanks for the links Trim.  Those were spot on!
We are all gonna need therapy after this trial.   ::MonkeyEek::
::MonkeyShocked:: We have to wait till AFTER?

I need it YESTERDAY!   ::MonkeyEek::


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Post by: Desdemona on August 13, 2010, 10:43:33 AM
http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/24612251/detail.html

"But yet, there's nothing.  Their[sic] must be saying that Casey ... must have been so calculated that she was able to ... put Caylee's remains down there without any ... [here Cindy suddenly blinks, frowns, looks down, pauses to think] ... any ... ANY link ... to her."

This is between 1:33 and 2:12 in the video.
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<< snipped >>
It may seem like a small discrepancy, but I'm thinking this may have been a verbal slip-up.  In fact, to me, in the video Cindy seems to react to having made a faux-pas when she realizes what she has said.  To me it looks like an uh-oh moment, when she frowns, looks down, and pauses.  She seems momentarily shaken by it, and then finishes the thought and rallies herself to start angrily listing the evidence she claims "they" DON'T have on Casey.
Was "HELP" the word Cindy had to stop herself from saying? The word "help" must raise all kinds of ramifications in her mind.
...that Casey "was able to put Caylee's remains down there without any, any, -- ANY ________."

help 

Wow, you might be onto something there, Scatty.  The concept of Casey having help, or someone else being involved came up several times in the Sanders interview.


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Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 13, 2010, 10:49:13 AM
Oh, and something else about the teaser video:

>>> Cindy, if you believe Caylee is still alive, then why don't you use your media time to plead with her kidnappers to return her and thereby exonerate Casey in the process?

>>> If you believe Caylee is still alive, then why don't you look into the camera every chance you get, and speak directly to HER?  After all, you are her "Cece" and she must be missing you terribly if she is still alive out there somewhere.  For shame!  Why don't you speak to her?

>>> If you believe Caylee is still alive, then why should you care whether Casey's DNA or fingerprints have been found on the "remains" of some unidentified child found down the block from your home?

I could go on and on... but I'll stop there.
I couldn't agree more ISpy.  Why isn't she in all out media and poster campaign to find her beloved granddaughter if she thinks Caylee is still alive? Put your money where your mouth is Cindy!

Cindy is a very sick woman.  Her theatrics, lies and BS has not, nor ever will, fool anyone, it is much to late for that.  Her true colors surfaced within hours of the 911 call.  I cannot wait to see the look on her face when the guilty verdict is read.  She ought to be ashamed of herself for what she has done to Caylee, in more ways than one, but mostly for not honoring Caylee in death.  Instead she stands ceremoniously in defense of her murdering daughter and intentionally hurting so many others in her quest.

There are places for people like Cindy and George and until they take their seat in he!! they will live pathetic miserable lives, how can they possibly feel good about themselves considering what they have and have not done?  I'm convinced Cindy and George will live the remainder of their lives in misery, void of any true love, compassion, family or real friends.  I don't, and won't, ever feel sorry for them.........EVER!  You reap what you sow Cindy, the dark hole gets deeper and deeper.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

God Bless you Caylee.  Justice will be served, we the people will make certain you did not die in vain.   ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: Sassycat on August 13, 2010, 11:02:52 AM
Meredith Vieira Interview with The Anthonys
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/38690422#38690422
08/13/10

I just want to know why Cindy had the bones cremated if she didn't believe they belonged to Caylee.
I wish Meredith had asked Cindy that question.   

What a lying biotch.       ::MonkeyMad::     ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Post by: Irish Monkey on August 13, 2010, 11:13:10 AM
I admit I watched the whole interview on line.  When asked where they will be a year or so from now, the FIRST thing Cindy says is that they will be "ramping up" their foundation.  Several moments later, she adds, almost as an afterthought, that she is sure that Casey will be there working with them.

And now I guess we know the basis for her disability...panic attacks?  I'm not buying it....

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 13, 2010, 11:18:09 AM
Meredith Vieira Interview with The Anthonys
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/38690422#38690422
08/13/10

I just want to know why Cindy had the bones cremated if she didn't believe they belonged to Caylee.
I wish Meredith had asked Cindy that question.   

What a lying biotch.       ::MonkeyMad::     ::MonkeyNoNo::
Exactly! 


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Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 13, 2010, 11:23:48 AM
Desi- You go, Girl!  I share your righteous indignation here!  I completely agree with you too.  No grandparent of a murdered beloved grandchild is going to casually refer to that grandchild as "[the child's name]'s remains".  No way, no how, not going to happen-it's too emotionally damaging and re-traumatizes the grandparent to think about it.

I also found Cindy's argument interesting that there's no evidence (DNA, fingerprints, etc.) to connect Casey to "Caylee's remains".  Of course, that doesn't begin to explain how all the items that Caylee was found with came directly from the Anthony home though.  I'd like the interviewer to ask Cindy & George exactly how the Nanny they've never seen/met/talked to, and who's never been to their home to their knowledge would know: that George kept the key to the locked outside shed in the nightstand drawer (who does that?!); where to find the oh-so-rare brand of duct tape in the shed; where to find the cloth clothes hamper in the garage; and where to find Casey's scrapbooking hearts in the bottom of her dresser (i.e. cabinet) in a shoe box?  Boy, that Nanny must have had a lot of spare time on her hands!  ::MonkeyTongue:: 

My challenge to Rosebud comes from a different place.  If her precious daughter was such a good mother then why is there no DNA from said wonderful mother on her small daughter?  Did Caylee get dressed by herself, put on her own shoes, get  in and out of the car seat and buckle and unbuckle by herself, pick up her mama doll everytime she dropped it all by herself, not get kissed, hugged, hold hands, brush hair out of eyes, wipe mouth, change diaper, straighten clothes, lift her, brush off food crumbs or dirt,  or have other close affectionate contact that would happen many times a day with a child that small?  I am sure my pets have my DNA all over them and I find it astonishing that Rosebud can say no DNA no murder and not wonder or bat an eye that  there would be not supposedly be one shred of DNA transfer from caring mother to daughter?  Ahhh but wait, she was such a wonderful mother that she never got close enough for the DNA transfer to ever happen or always wore a hazmat suit when she was in close contact with Caylee.  Bullsnit on all accounts!
Yep, double Bullsnit!!!

Desi, so good to see you, I enjoy reading your posts (and all monkey posts).  ::HelloKitty:: 



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Post by: Sassycat on August 13, 2010, 11:39:41 AM
I admit I watched the whole interview on line.  When asked where they will be a year or so from now, the FIRST thing Cindy says is that they will be "ramping up" their foundation.  Several moments later, she adds, almost as an afterthought, that she is sure that Casey will be there working with them.

And now I guess we know the basis for her disability...panic attacks?  I'm not buying it....

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I'm not buying it either.   However, sometimes panic attacks are caused by suppressed guilty feelings.  just sayin.....

But I would think that if one suffered from panic attacks so badly that they couldn't function at work, the last thing they would want to do is go on television every opportunity they had.    I'm basing this opinion on my own experience with panic attacks.


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Post by: Irish Monkey on August 13, 2010, 11:44:01 AM
I admit I watched the whole interview on line.  When asked where they will be a year or so from now, the FIRST thing Cindy says is that they will be "ramping up" their foundation.  Several moments later, she adds, almost as an afterthought, that she is sure that Casey will be there working with them.

And now I guess we know the basis for her disability...panic attacks?  I'm not buying it....

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I'm not buying it either.   However, sometimes panic attacks are caused by suppressed guilty feelings.  just sayin.....

But I would think that if one suffered from panic attacks so badly that they couldn't function at work, the last thing they would want to do is go on television every opportunity they had.    I'm basing this opinion on my own experience with panic attacks.

That is exactly my point!  I've actually had panic attacks, and there is no way I would parade myself in front of cameras like she does, ESPECIALLY if the subject matter I was discussing was the CAUSE of the anxiety!!!!    JMO    ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 11:47:40 AM
Thanks for the links Trim.  Those were spot on!

We are all gonna need therapy after this trial.   ::MonkeyEek::
Just so it isn't group therapy and the Anthonys are part of it  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 11:51:03 AM
I admit I watched the whole interview on line.  When asked where they will be a year or so from now, the FIRST thing Cindy says is that they will be "ramping up" their foundation.  Several moments later, she adds, almost as an afterthought, that she is sure that Casey will be there working with them.

And now I guess we know the basis for her disability...panic attacks?  I'm not buying it....

 ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyEek:: Dream on Cindy, Casey won't be working side by side on your foundation. I have panic attacks all the time, maybe going around doing ridiculous interviews adds to the panic attacks Cindy. All they are doing is gathering sympathy from people that haven't followed this case closely, all those people see are two grieving people who lost their granddaughter, and their poor daughter is in jail awaiting trial.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 11:52:00 AM
I admit I watched the whole interview on line.  When asked where they will be a year or so from now, the FIRST thing Cindy says is that they will be "ramping up" their foundation.  Several moments later, she adds, almost as an afterthought, that she is sure that Casey will be there working with them.

And now I guess we know the basis for her disability...panic attacks?  I'm not buying it....

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I'm not buying it either.   However, sometimes panic attacks are caused by suppressed guilty feelings.  just sayin.....

But I would think that if one suffered from panic attacks so badly that they couldn't function at work, the last thing they would want to do is go on television every opportunity they had.    I'm basing this opinion on my own experience with panic attacks.
Exactly, but when one is paid well, those panic attacks are worth it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 13, 2010, 11:56:59 AM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/08/casey-anthony-mom-cindy-tells-nbc-that-she-believes-casey-will-come-home-to-work-on-foundation.html
Caylee Anthony: George, Cindy visit ‘Today’ for a nothing interview »

Casey Anthony: Mom Cindy tells NBC that she believes Casey will come home to work on foundation
When it comes to the latest interviews of George and Casey Anthony, the web version was far superior to the live one on “Today” this morning. Why didn’t NBC play more of the taped interview and forget flying the couple to New York to sit in a studio with Meredith Vieira?

The parents of Casey Anthony talked to NBC’s Kerry Sanders in their home Wednesday. Their daughter, Casey, is accused of the first-degree murder of their granddaughter, Caylee.

“I want the truth to come out,” George Anthony said. He said he wants the person responsible for Caylee’s death to be held accountable.

“Even if it winds up with your daughter being convicted?” Sanders asked.

“If that’s something that has to happen, then I guess that will happen,” George Anthony said. “I still believe … there’s more to this story, there’s more people involved.”

 Sanders asked the couple how they think the story will end.

Cindy Anthony said that she and George will have more time to devote to their foundation once Casey’s murder trial is over next year.

“I believe that Casey will be part of that with us, I believe that she will be home,” Cindy said. Cindy predicted the trial will be a struggle, but “there’s much more reasonable doubt than there is evidence against Casey.”


Cindy added, “More and more will come out to show that she had nothing to do with this and she has been misunderstood.”

Cindy said she doesn’t believe that Roy Kronk, the meter reader who found Caylee’s remains, is the reasonable doubt in the case.
George Anthony said he was angry when he first heard that Casey had accused him and son Lee of sexually molesting her. George said the allegations are wrong and that neither he nor Lee did anything to Casey. “It never happened,” George said.

Cindy said she had “severe anxiety attacks” that started with people protesting outside her house.

“That’s a lynch mob. That’s no different from someone coming and burning a cross on someone’s front yard,” Cindy said.

George said that he had questioned the tactics of Jose Baez, Casey’s attorney, but that Casey is satisfied with him.

 :gaah:


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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 13, 2010, 12:04:28 PM
Cindy compared her and George as people tortured by the KKK.........
FTLOG,she needs the ever loving chit slapped out of her for that.  IMO


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Post by: Irish Monkey on August 13, 2010, 12:07:08 PM
Cindy compared her and George as people tortured by the KKK.........
FTLOG,she needs the ever loving chit slapped out of her for that.  IMO

And what is it exactly that takes up all their disability funded unemployed time?     ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Scatty on August 13, 2010, 12:20:46 PM
I couldn't watch that interview because I wanted to keep my tv in an unbroken state. When Cindy talked about ramping up their foundation, did Meredith ask how accusations of molestations of Casey by George might play into that? Should a guy whose been accused of molestation, by the very daughter they are touting as a wronged victim, have anything to do with something kid-related?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 12:22:27 PM
Cindy compared her and George as people tortured by the KKK.........
FTLOG,she needs the ever loving chit slapped out of her for that.  IMO
::MonkeyEek:: The KKK, she needs more then the chit slapped out of her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Scatty on August 13, 2010, 12:22:57 PM
Cindy compared her and George as people tortured by the KKK.........
FTLOG,she needs the ever loving chit slapped out of her for that.  IMO

Why does this imbecile keep on opening her mouth? Nothing spews forth except garbage. Save the planet--keep your mouth closed, Cindy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 12:24:11 PM
I couldn't watch that interview because I wanted to keep my tv in an unbroken state. When Cindy talked about ramping up their foundation, did Meredith ask how accusations of molestations of Casey by George might play into that? Should a guy whose been accused of molestation, by the very daughter they are touting as a wronged victim, have anything to do with something kid-related?
NO imo he shouldn't  ::MonkeyNoNo::   
“If that’s something that has to happen, then I guess that will happen,” George Anthony said. “I still believe … there’s more to this story, there’s more people involved.”   ::MonkeyEek::  Maybe even you George are involved.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 13, 2010, 12:25:22 PM
Cindy compared her and George as people tortured by the KKK.........
FTLOG,she needs the ever loving chit slapped out of her for that.  IMO
::MonkeyEek:: The KKK, she needs more then the chit slapped out of her.
::MonkeyHaHa:: Cindy tortures herself. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 12:25:44 PM
Cindy compared her and George as people tortured by the KKK.........
FTLOG,she needs the ever loving chit slapped out of her for that.  IMO

And what is it exactly that takes up all their disability funded unemployed time?     ::MonkeyEek::
Probably admiring their ugly tattoos and cheap jewelry.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Scatty on August 13, 2010, 12:27:29 PM
I admit I watched the whole interview on line.  When asked where they will be a year or so from now, the FIRST thing Cindy says is that they will be "ramping up" their foundation.  Several moments later, she adds, almost as an afterthought, that she is sure that Casey will be there working with them.

And now I guess we know the basis for her disability...panic attacks?  I'm not buying it....

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I'm not buying it either.   However, sometimes panic attacks are caused by suppressed guilty feelings.  just sayin.....

But I would think that if one suffered from panic attacks so badly that they couldn't function at work, the last thing they would want to do is go on television every opportunity they had.    I'm basing this opinion on my own experience with panic attacks.

Over a year ago, I was having a hard time functioning at work due to anxiety and panic attacks. I made an appointment, got som Prozac, took a few weeks vacation, and I was back at work. That's what meds are for, and Cindy has recommended meds for people in similar circumstances. But if she's on medication, and it's working, why in hell couldn't she go back to work? ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Irish Monkey on August 13, 2010, 12:28:07 PM
I couldn't watch that interview because I wanted to keep my tv in an unbroken state. When Cindy talked about ramping up their foundation, did Meredith ask how accusations of molestations of Casey by George might play into that? Should a guy whose been accused of molestation, by the very daughter they are touting as a wronged victim, have anything to do with something kid-related?

Kerry asked him about the allegations in the interview that is posted online.  He vehemently denies that he or Lee ever did anything like that to Casey.  BUT..."I'm not calling Casey a liar..."  Gave some convoluted answer that she was making it up in order to comfort the person she was writing to...  As in, "I went through that too...."

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 13, 2010, 12:28:51 PM
Cindy compared her and George as people tortured by the KKK.........
FTLOG,she needs the ever loving chit slapped out of her for that.  IMO

Why does this imbecile keep on opening her mouth? Nothing spews forth except garbage. Save the planet--keep your mouth closed, Cindy.
::MonkeyHaHa:: She is a complete waste of air.  They only truth that has ever crossed her lips was "It smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car" Yep no truer words were ever spoken Cindy. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 13, 2010, 12:30:09 PM
Cindy compared her and George as people tortured by the KKK.........
FTLOG,she needs the ever loving chit slapped out of her for that.  IMO

And what is it exactly that takes up all their disability funded unemployed time?     ::MonkeyEek::
Probably admiring their ugly tattoos and cheap jewelry.
::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Irish Monkey on August 13, 2010, 12:30:32 PM
Cindy compared her and George as people tortured by the KKK.........
FTLOG,she needs the ever loving chit slapped out of her for that.  IMO

And what is it exactly that takes up all their disability funded unemployed time?     ::MonkeyEek::
Probably admiring their ugly tattoos and cheap jewelry.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 12:35:38 PM
I couldn't watch that interview because I wanted to keep my tv in an unbroken state. When Cindy talked about ramping up their foundation, did Meredith ask how accusations of molestations of Casey by George might play into that? Should a guy whose been accused of molestation, by the very daughter they are touting as a wronged victim, have anything to do with something kid-related?

Kerry asked him about the allegations in the interview that is posted online.  He vehemently denies that he or Lee ever did anything like that to Casey.  BUT..."I'm not calling Casey a liar..."  Gave some convoluted answer that she was making it up in order to comfort the person she was writing to...  As in, "I went through that too...."

 ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyNoNo:: That right there show George is mentally ill. What father in his right mind would say that after being accused of such a thing?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Irish Monkey on August 13, 2010, 12:54:08 PM
I couldn't watch that interview because I wanted to keep my tv in an unbroken state. When Cindy talked about ramping up their foundation, did Meredith ask how accusations of molestations of Casey by George might play into that? Should a guy whose been accused of molestation, by the very daughter they are touting as a wronged victim, have anything to do with something kid-related?

Kerry asked him about the allegations in the interview that is posted online.  He vehemently denies that he or Lee ever did anything like that to Casey.  BUT..."I'm not calling Casey a liar..."  Gave some convoluted answer that she was making it up in order to comfort the person she was writing to...  As in, "I went through that too...."

 ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyNoNo:: That right there show George is mentally ill. What father in his right mind would say that after being accused of such a thing?

A very desperate one...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 12:57:38 PM
I couldn't watch that interview because I wanted to keep my tv in an unbroken state. When Cindy talked about ramping up their foundation, did Meredith ask how accusations of molestations of Casey by George might play into that? Should a guy whose been accused of molestation, by the very daughter they are touting as a wronged victim, have anything to do with something kid-related?

Kerry asked him about the allegations in the interview that is posted online.  He vehemently denies that he or Lee ever did anything like that to Casey.  BUT..."I'm not calling Casey a liar..."  Gave some convoluted answer that she was making it up in order to comfort the person she was writing to...  As in, "I went through that too...."

 ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyNoNo:: That right there show George is mentally ill. What father in his right mind would say that after being accused of such a thing?

A very desperate one...
Yes a very desperate one, and a very desperate brother as well  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: akmom on August 13, 2010, 01:01:05 PM
Cindy compared her and George as people tortured by the KKK.........
FTLOG,she needs the ever loving chit slapped out of her for that.  IMO


I hereby officially offer my services, come on I'll take a whack at her for all of us!!

Can't watch the interview, no stomach for it today......BUT Cincin, I challenge you to go to Mark Nejame, he has volunteered to lay out everything for you .....your daughter murdered your granddaughter....you are an idiot


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Irish Monkey on August 13, 2010, 01:03:10 PM
I'm going to share something here.  I have a brother currently incarcerated as a convicted SO.  I am VERY aware of the dynamics of the family...the denial, the justifications, the grief.  I have a parent who is still supportive of him.  But I can honestly say, that when he came up for parole, and there was lobbying from within the family to write letters of recommendation for him, I did the opposite. 

So I guess I have some insight, and or empathy for some of the players in this circus, but in no way could I EVER cover up, or lie to benefit a relative I know had done something heinous.  It has caused many family conflicts, but in the end, I gotta live with ME.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 01:06:39 PM
I'm going to share something here.  I have a brother currently incarcerated as a convicted SO.  I am VERY aware of the dynamics of the family...the denial, the justifications, the grief.  I have a parent who is still supportive of him.  But I can honestly say, that when he came up for parole, and there was lobbying from within the family to write letters of recommendation for him, I did the opposite. 

So I guess I have some insight, and or empathy for some of the players in this circus, but in no way could I EVER cover up, or lie to benefit a relative I know had done something heinous.  It has caused many family conflicts, but in the end, I gotta live with ME.
::MonkeyAngel:: And you are doing what is right for you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Irish Monkey on August 13, 2010, 01:08:05 PM
I'm going to share something here.  I have a brother currently incarcerated as a convicted SO.  I am VERY aware of the dynamics of the family...the denial, the justifications, the grief.  I have a parent who is still supportive of him.  But I can honestly say, that when he came up for parole, and there was lobbying from within the family to write letters of recommendation for him, I did the opposite. 

So I guess I have some insight, and or empathy for some of the players in this circus, but in no way could I EVER cover up, or lie to benefit a relative I know had done something heinous.  It has caused many family conflicts, but in the end, I gotta live with ME.
::MonkeyAngel:: And you are doing what is right for you.

Yep.  What's right is right, and being blood relatives changes nothing, in my opinion.  Not a popular opinion with my mom, however.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: akmom on August 13, 2010, 01:11:39 PM
"The family celebrated what would have been Caylee's 5th birthday Monday by planting a bush in the backyard near the child's playhouse. "

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-parents-today-show-20100813,0,4842581.story

 ::MonkeyEek::

I find the bush planting in that area extremely disturbing....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 13, 2010, 01:12:40 PM
I'm going to share something here.  I have a brother currently incarcerated as a convicted SO.  I am VERY aware of the dynamics of the family...the denial, the justifications, the grief.  I have a parent who is still supportive of him.  But I can honestly say, that when he came up for parole, and there was lobbying from within the family to write letters of recommendation for him, I did the opposite. 

So I guess I have some insight, and or empathy for some of the players in this circus, but in no way could I EVER cover up, or lie to benefit a relative I know had done something heinous.  It has caused many family conflicts, but in the end, I gotta live with ME.
Good for you IrishMonkey, you have to go with your heart of hearts. I can say if I had a family member who committed a crime I would not rally to their side if they were guilty, instead I would let them know that they are loved but must pay for their crime, one cannot enable bad behavior because if you do no one wins, including the person who did wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Irish Monkey on August 13, 2010, 01:13:00 PM
"The family celebrated what would have been Caylee's 5th birthday Monday by planting a bush in the backyard near the child's playhouse. "

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-parents-today-show-20100813,0,4842581.story

 ::MonkeyEek::

I find the bush planting in that area extremely disturbing....

I'm on that branch with you...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Curly on August 13, 2010, 01:13:59 PM
What exactly was the purpose of the Meredith Viera interview except for a little trip to the big apple?
I thought Kerry Sanders asked some very good questions. Georgie KNOWS Casey's guilty and is never coming home.
As far as Sindy goes..well, you guys have already covered that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Irish Monkey on August 13, 2010, 01:14:13 PM
I'm going to share something here.  I have a brother currently incarcerated as a convicted SO.  I am VERY aware of the dynamics of the family...the denial, the justifications, the grief.  I have a parent who is still supportive of him.  But I can honestly say, that when he came up for parole, and there was lobbying from within the family to write letters of recommendation for him, I did the opposite. 

So I guess I have some insight, and or empathy for some of the players in this circus, but in no way could I EVER cover up, or lie to benefit a relative I know had done something heinous.  It has caused many family conflicts, but in the end, I gotta live with ME.
Good for you IrishMonkey, you have to go with your heart of hearts. I can say if I had a family member who committed a crime I would not rally to their side if they were guilty, instead I would let them know that they are loved but must pay for their crime, one cannot enable bad behavior because if you do no one wins, including the person who did wrong.

In this case, I couldn't even rally as the victim was a family member.  I chose to stand for the victim.      ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Irish Monkey on August 13, 2010, 01:16:32 PM
I meant to add, which is why I find these people so disgusting.  Justice for Caylee, indeed!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: ISpy on August 13, 2010, 01:17:58 PM
Irish Monkey-  Commendations to you for standing your ground with your family!  The child/adult your saving owes you much.  Thank you for recognizing this is about more than you or your immediate family!  God bless you!  I, too, have some experience with that among my relatives (way more experience than normal, IMO-we have a large extended family on both sides with SO's).  It takes courage to stand and say, "No, I will NOT go along with that. (i.e. sit down and shut up, cover up)".  If it divides the family, so be it.  You're exactly right...we have to live with us for a very long time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Irish Monkey on August 13, 2010, 01:21:12 PM
Irish Monkey-  Commendations to you for standing your ground with your family!  The child/adult your saving owes you much.  Thank you for recognizing this is about more than you or your immediate family!  God bless you!  I, too, have some experience with that among my relatives (way more experience than normal, IMO-we have a large extended family on both sides with SO's).  It takes courage to stand and say, "No, I will NOT go along with that. (i.e. sit down and shut up, cover up)".  If it divides the family, so be it.  You're exactly right...we have to live with us for a very long time.

ISpy, thank you so much.  My heart goes out to you.  I don't post often, but I always enjoy what you've written.  I'm sure my personal experiences are what drew me to this case and forum in the first place.  I also have two lovely daughters who I keep FAR FAR away from certain toxic members of family.  We can't pick our biology, but we can pick our "Family of the Heart".

And on a lighter note, my baby sis says that "someone pizzed in our gene pool!"   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 13, 2010, 01:32:45 PM
http://humbleopinionforum.net/2010/08/13/cindy-anthony-rambles-like-a-sociopath/
Written on 13 August 2010 at 09:00 by Humbleopinion aka FLAB
Cindy Anthony, rambles like a sociopath!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 13, 2010, 01:40:56 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/136686/Anthonys-support-daughter-on-Today-show
Anthonys support daughter on Today show
Last Updated: Friday, August 13, 2010 12:20 PM

 ORLANDO --
George and Cindy, appeared on the Today Show this morning to talk about the continued pain they feel about the loss of their granddaughter.

They also once again showed support for their daughter Casey who's charged with Caylee's murder.
 
Despite the positive identification of Caylee's remains, Cindy Anthony says she remains skeptical about the whole thing.

"I'm not certain of all the forensic evidence," Cinday Anthony said. "There's a lot that doesn't make sense to me. There's nothing, I have not been able to find that proves it's Caylee  and I've had other people looking too," she said.

"Is that a need to believe because to not believe is too painful or are you suggesting there's been some cover up," the anchor asked.

"I don't know," Cindy Anthony said. "I don't know."

Casey's trial remains on track to start next year.  Caylee would have turned five years old this past Monday.


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Post by: Mtnmom on August 13, 2010, 01:48:25 PM
Is she expecting by chance??  ::HelloKitty::


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Post by: ISpy on August 13, 2010, 01:49:44 PM
Afternoon, everyone!  Just checking in to point out how much physical distance there is between George and Cindy on this interview couch with Meredith here http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/38690422#38690422 (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/38690422#38690422) beginning around 3:20.  As soon as Meredith asks her first question, Cindy "bridges the gap" by reaching for George's hand to maintain the semblance of "We're in this together.".  Clearly, their distance between their upper bodies, shows they are not.  If Cindy weren't continually asserting herself, George would likely have unburdened himself long ago.  The "happy, normal Anthony family" storyline is hanging by a thread and they all know it.  Hence the on-air attempts to shore up the image, complete with the same old song and dance:  "They're (LE/the Prosecution/the media-take your pick) picking on Casey."; "They're being unfair.";  "They're ignoring/manipulating evidence."; They're not even looking for [fill in the blank]."; "Our people have found more than they have."; "I don't believe Caylee is dead."; "There's someone else...."; and "I believe Casey will be exonerated/found innocent and will be home...".  Yeah right, Cindy.  And you and George believed Caylee would be home for her third birthday too!  Home in your cremation jewelry, that is! ::MonkeyMad::


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Post by: crazybabyborg on August 13, 2010, 02:10:23 PM
Hi Monkeys!   ::MonkeyDance::

I just watched the interview online. Geeeez, these people!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I think they both know Casey is guilty. They may very well believe that something happened to Caylee by accident and that Casey panicked and disposed of her, but they both know Casey's guilty, IMO.

Cindy's a real nut case and she's responsible for setting a lot of what happened in motion. Her controlling, overbearing, jealous nature is at the core of a lot of this. JMO!
 


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 02:19:45 PM
Hi Monkeys!   ::MonkeyDance::

I just watched the interview online. Geeeez, these people!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I think they both know Casey is guilty. They may very well believe that something happened to Caylee by accident and that Casey panicked and disposed of her, but they both know Casey's guilty, IMO.

Cindy's a real nut case and she's responsible for setting a lot of what happened in motion. Her controlling, overbearing, jealous nature is at the core of a lot of this. JMO!
 
I so agree with you, Cindy is definitely at the core of a lot of this  ::MonkeyNoNo::  None of my business but she never should have reproduced, imo.


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Post by: ISpy on August 13, 2010, 02:26:36 PM
http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2010/08/13/george-and-cindy-anthony’s-body-language-and-facial-leaks-on-today-show-reveal-they-may-believe-casey-killed-caylee-but-cindy-still-spins-blame-on-others/
George and Cindy Anthony’s Body Language and Facial Leaks on Today Show Reveal They May Believe Casey Killed Caylee But Cindy Still Spins Blame On Others
08/13/10

Thanks, Trimm!  Just a couple things to add, not that I'm a body language expert!  LOL!  Under the fifth picture of the Anthony's, we find George's comment “ But then again, we want to see this through”  .  Using Statement Analysis principles, George has clearly weighed two options and rejected one, per his comment " But then again...".

Under Dr. Lillian's section, Cindy's Desperate Attempt At Spin, she points out George's obvious disdain for what Cindy is about to say.  I'd like to go one further and say that George's face reflects that Cindy's upcoming comment is literally distasteful to him, as in, leaves a bitter taste in his mouth.  Hence, his expression in that shot.  JMO  I really like Dr. Glass.  She is so spot on with Cindy & George.

Got to run!  Have a good afternoon/evening!


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Post by: 4 Donks on August 13, 2010, 02:29:36 PM
It really pizzes me off that they use all the money they make from Caylee on themselves and Casey's snack account and they plant a bush(probably $5.00) for Caylee..They dont even have place to put up a decent marker for that sweet baby.


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Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 13, 2010, 02:37:40 PM
Cindy compared her and George as people tortured by the KKK.........
FTLOG,she needs the ever loving chit slapped out of her for that.  IMO


I hereby officially offer my services, come on I'll take a whack at her for all of us!!

Can't watch the interview, no stomach for it today......BUT Cincin, I challenge you to go to Mark Nejame, he has volunteered to lay out everything for you .....your daughter murdered your granddaughter....you are an idiot
You are hired.  I would not even bother watching, same ol same ol Cindy spinning around in her little fantasy world.


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Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 13, 2010, 02:39:03 PM
I'm going to share something here.  I have a brother currently incarcerated as a convicted SO.  I am VERY aware of the dynamics of the family...the denial, the justifications, the grief.  I have a parent who is still supportive of him.  But I can honestly say, that when he came up for parole, and there was lobbying from within the family to write letters of recommendation for him, I did the opposite. 

So I guess I have some insight, and or empathy for some of the players in this circus, but in no way could I EVER cover up, or lie to benefit a relative I know had done something heinous.  It has caused many family conflicts, but in the end, I gotta live with ME.
Good for you IrishMonkey, you have to go with your heart of hearts. I can say if I had a family member who committed a crime I would not rally to their side if they were guilty, instead I would let them know that they are loved but must pay for their crime, one cannot enable bad behavior because if you do no one wins, including the person who did wrong.

In this case, I couldn't even rally as the victim was a family member.  I chose to stand for the victim.      ::MonkeyAngel::
I'm sorry to hear that, I can totally understand your position.


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Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 13, 2010, 02:40:40 PM
Hi Monkeys!   ::MonkeyDance::

I just watched the interview online. Geeeez, these people!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I think they both know Casey is guilty. They may very well believe that something happened to Caylee by accident and that Casey panicked and disposed of her, but they both know Casey's guilty, IMO.

Cindy's a real nut case and she's responsible for setting a lot of what happened in motion. Her controlling, overbearing, jealous nature is at the core of a lot of this. JMO!
 
So true CBB.  Cindy is the root of a lot of evil in this dysfunctional family.


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Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 13, 2010, 02:47:51 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/08/my-instinct-by-cindy-anthony.html
Friday, August 13, 2010
Cindy Anthony: Family Involvement?


This an awesome article saying exactly what we have been saying all along. I so glad others have picked up on the discrepancies in Cindy's words and her body language. She is a proficient liar, but not near as good as she thinks because she gives away things with her words. You can tell KC learned her deception at her mother's knee.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 02:49:39 PM
It really pizzes me off that they use all the money they make from Caylee on themselves and Casey's snack account and they plant a bush(probably $5.00) for Caylee..They dont even have place to put up a decent marker for that sweet baby.
It's disgusting and to hear Cindy, Caylee may still be alive so I guess why bother?  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Post by: Irish Monkey on August 13, 2010, 02:53:10 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that, I can totally understand your position.

Thanks Mission.  I felt it more important for the child to know someone stood up for her in an honest way.

 ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 13, 2010, 02:57:02 PM
http://humbleopinionforum.net/2010/08/13/cindy-anthony-rambles-like-a-sociopath/
Written on 13 August 2010 at 09:00 by Humbleopinion aka FLAB
Cindy Anthony, rambles like a sociopath!


I love this...............PERFECT DESCRIPTION !!

"Cindy has a few professions:  making blood money, lair, evidence hider, liar, attorney, liar, forensic expert, liar, nurse of decomposition, liar, photo expert, liar, fraudation owner, liar, Private investigator, liar, Law Enforcement officer, liar, detective, liar, media hound, liar, lazy disability collector, liar, blogger hater, liar…seems she believes she is all of these and more."


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Post by: ISpy on August 13, 2010, 03:05:30 PM
Said I was going, but a thought hit me on the way out. *Sarcasm Alert* I just looove how Cindy was so quick to tell all of us to "get of our *** and look for her granddaughter".  But for the better part of three years now, she's in essence told us that it's none of our businesses, basically we need to butt out and get a life.  She can't have it both ways!  Funny how when so many of us started looking for Caylee and finding evidence incriminating Casey, Cindy told us we should mind our own business and "respect their privacy".  I have news for you, Cindy Anthony, the second you reported Caylee missing, it became my business...and everyone else's.  You invited demanded me to make it my business with your "invitation" above. Guess what, it's still my business and everyone else's too...you invited demanded our help, we didn't ask to be involved.  You want us to drop out and go home, so to speak, because you can't bully or control us the way you do the rest of your family.  We are many; your camp is small and getting smaller with each "interview".  You opened a Pandora's box and you're desperately trying to stuff the truth back inside, but it's way too late just like in the story.  As ironic as it is, turns out we do have one thing in common with Cindy & George Anthony.  As George put it, "..., we want to see it through.".  Yes, we (the public, the internet bloggers, the armchair detectives with "no life"), are going to see this through.  Except in our case, we're going to see it through FOR CAYLEE.   ::MonkeyGavel::

P.S.  How come Cindy, who "still believes Caylee is alive", hasn't publicly begged asked any of us (the millions of U.S. residents) to look for Caylee lately?  ::MonkeyWink::

Now, I'm done.


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Post by: Irish Monkey on August 13, 2010, 03:14:12 PM
BRAVO!!!!      ::MonkeyCheer4::


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 03:16:59 PM
http://humbleopinionforum.net/2010/08/13/cindy-anthony-rambles-like-a-sociopath/
Written on 13 August 2010 at 09:00 by Humbleopinion aka FLAB
Cindy Anthony, rambles like a sociopath!


I love this...............PERFECT DESCRIPTION !!

"Cindy has a few professions:  making blood money, lair, evidence hider, liar, attorney, liar, forensic expert, liar, nurse of decomposition, liar, photo expert, liar, fraudation owner, liar, Private investigator, liar, Law Enforcement officer, liar, detective, liar, media hound, liar, lazy disability collector, liar, blogger hater, liar…seems she believes she is all of these and more."
::MonkeyEek:: Not something a person would want to be, but she seems alright by it. She must know deep down she is all that, but maybe she really doesn't.


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Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 13, 2010, 03:21:23 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that, I can totally understand your position.

Thanks Mission.  I felt it more important for the child to know someone stood up for her in an honest way.

 ::MonkeyAngel::

When George said the morning of Caylee's birthday he was in her room and could feel her presence, I HOPE he felt the betrayal in her little mind by their ones who were supposed to protect her. I hope he felt the sadness that her own mother destroyed her and threw her body away in a d*mn garbage bag with their help. Scr*w them all in my opinion and I want justice for Caylee no matter how many of them it destroys and hopefully all of them.


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Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 13, 2010, 03:29:37 PM
I'm going to share something here.  I have a brother currently incarcerated as a convicted SO.  I am VERY aware of the dynamics of the family...the denial, the justifications, the grief.  I have a parent who is still supportive of him.  But I can honestly say, that when he came up for parole, and there was lobbying from within the family to write letters of recommendation for him, I did the opposite. 

So I guess I have some insight, and or empathy for some of the players in this circus, but in no way could I EVER cover up, or lie to benefit a relative I know had done something heinous.  It has caused many family conflicts, but in the end, I gotta live with ME.

I have a nephew who has been in prison and I love the young man, but when asked to speak at his trial as to his character, my answer was " I can't speak of his good character when I know he is a liar and a thief. He did the crime ;now he needs to do the time so hopefully he will never do anything like this again and will learn that even family will not condone nor support him in what he did." 

His attorney even called me as an expert witness and I told him the same thing and told him if he put me on the stand that would be my testimony as I believe he should suffer the consequences of his actions." Needless to say they have not spoken to me since then, but interestingly enough my nephew called me when he got out of prison and acted like none of that happened and thanked me for not going along with his parents in trying to lie to the court.


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Post by: Northern Rose on August 13, 2010, 03:32:28 PM
Against my better judgement watched the msn clip.  She is praying for us bloggers and then says we should get a life and spend time helping others instead of hating on them.  I don't need their prayers.  I do not make it part of my daily life to lie about what my children have done nor do I have 5 different personalities and interchange them as I feel the situation requires.  I do not go around saying I have found god and renewed faith and then in the background write venom laden hateful emails about people who are trying nothing more than to make the truth surface.  They say they want to see this to the end no matter which road it takes, well then why do they instantly jump on, attempt to discredit, belittle and call names of anyone (Mr Morgan, Mr Nejame, Det Melich, etc.) who have no skin in the game and want nothing BUT to find the truth?  Save your prayers for yourself and your spawn Rosebud and about using time towards some good, how about you actually do something out of pure altruism?

I have to go wash my eyes out with bleech now that I have seen the clip. 


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Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 13, 2010, 03:38:59 PM
People are so disgusted with the Anthonys and the TV appearances. Even victim's advocates despise them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUfYwQSIdm4&feature=related


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 03:54:41 PM
Against my better judgement watched the msn clip.  She is praying for us bloggers and then says we should get a life and spend time helping others instead of hating on them.  I don't need their prayers.  I do not make it part of my daily life to lie about what my children have done nor do I have 5 different personalities and interchange them as I feel the situation requires.  I do not go around saying I have found god and renewed faith and then in the background write venom laden hateful emails about people who are trying nothing more than to make the truth surface.  They say they want to see this to the end no matter which road it takes, well then why do they instantly jump on, attempt to discredit, belittle and call names of anyone (Mr Morgan, Mr Nejame, Det Melich, etc.) who have no skin in the game and want nothing BUT to find the truth?  Save your prayers for yourself and your spawn Rosebud and about using time towards some good, how about you actually do something out of pure altruism?

I have to go wash my eyes out with bleech now that I have seen the clip. 
Excellent  ::MonkeyCool:: Couldn't agree more with your post. I don't need their prayers either, they aren't real anyway, imo.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 03:55:12 PM
People are so disgusted with the Anthonys and the TV appearances. Even victim's advocates despise them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUfYwQSIdm4&feature=related
::MonkeyNoNo:: How could victim's advocates not despise them?


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Post by: loca on August 13, 2010, 04:02:45 PM
People are so disgusted with the Anthonys and the TV appearances. Even victim's advocates despise them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUfYwQSIdm4&feature=related
::MonkeyNoNo:: How could victim's advocates not despise them?

Turbo is this a recent tape? I cannot stand them and am so glad to see that we are not alone and that people that see them on t.v are also fed up with their  trying to integrate into helping others. I would like  to thank you turbo , rose and many other monkeys that bring valuable information here to keep us all informed. good investigative skill.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 13, 2010, 04:36:21 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/24621994/detail.html
Cindy Anthony: I Regret Dead Body Comment
Cindy Anthony Explains Why She Thinks Caylee Could Still Be Alive


POSTED: Friday, August 13, 2010
UPDATED: 2:45 pm EDT August 13, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Cindy and George Anthony appeared on national television Friday morning, and Cindy said she does not know why she told a 911 dispatcher her daughter's car smelled like a dead body.
On NBC's "Today Show," Cindy Anthony said she regretted her infamous call to 911 reporting her granddaughter, Caylee Anthony, missing.

"I never thought that, from the beginning, that was never my instinct when I smelled it, and knowing what I know now, I probably would have never even made that statement. But I can't go back, because at that point, my perspective at that point, I had no knowledge of what I do now," Cindy Anthony said.

Cindy Anthony also explained why she recently said she believes Caylee is still alive.

"I'm not certain of all the forensic evidence, there's a lot that doesn't make sense to me. I have not been able to find anything in it that actually proves it's Caylee," Cindy Anthony said.

George and Cindy Anthony said they had cake this week to mark what would have been Caylee's fifth birthday.

George Anthony said he will always stand behind his daughter, Casey Anthony, because he could never abandon his family.

Casey Anthony, 24, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

Caylee was 2 years old when she was reported missing in July 2008. Her remains were found in a wooded area in east Orange County in December 2008.


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Post by: loca on August 13, 2010, 04:38:18 PM
clerarly cindy is lying and stumbling all over her words. clearly her and george sitting so far apart. cindy reachs over to touch georges hand he doesnt respond. that show appearance clearly clearly speaks volumes of their body language. I high doub that the viewers bought into it especialy when she said she didnt think that the forensics proved it was caylee...

caseys is gonners and conway is the most henpecked man oh wait so is george. cindy has that affect on her men. another thing!! is cindy growing her hair because she  does everything casey does geez !! she isnt casey.
even ranting sorry.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 04:41:56 PM

"I'm not certain of all the forensic evidence, there's a lot that doesn't make sense to me. I have not been able to find anything in it that actually proves it's Caylee," Cindy Anthony said.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  How about DNA?


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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 13, 2010, 04:51:43 PM

"I'm not certain of all the forensic evidence, there's a lot that doesn't make sense to me. I have not been able to find anything in it that actually proves it's Caylee," Cindy Anthony said.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  How about DNA?

She should be ashamed of herself.We all watched the day it was said to be little Caylee's remains.
Her vile,vicious lies are an insult to all others who have suffered the loss of someone they loved and cherished.
I don't need her prayers,I can talk to God when I want.
All I want to know is how the he!! she looks in the mirror everyday.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 05:12:18 PM

"I'm not certain of all the forensic evidence, there's a lot that doesn't make sense to me. I have not been able to find anything in it that actually proves it's Caylee," Cindy Anthony said.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  How about DNA?

She should be ashamed of herself.We all watched the day it was said to be little Caylee's remains.
Her vile,vicious lies are an insult to all others who have suffered the loss of someone they loved and cherished.
I don't need her prayers,I can talk to God when I want.
All I want to know is how the he!! she looks in the mirror everyday.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
How she looks in the mirror and how she sleeps at night  ::MonkeyNoNo::  I'm waiting for the day that Casey is convicted, and the mean side of me can't wait to see the look on George, Cindy and Lee's face.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 13, 2010, 05:15:34 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/08/did-george-anthony-molest-casey-anthony.html
Friday, August 13, 2010
Did George Anthony Molest Casey Anthony


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Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 13, 2010, 05:33:55 PM
http://humbleopinionforum.net/2010/08/13/cindy-anthony-rambles-like-a-sociopath/
Written on 13 August 2010 at 09:00 by Humbleopinion aka FLAB
Cindy Anthony, rambles like a sociopath!


I love this...............PERFECT DESCRIPTION !!

"Cindy has a few professions:  making blood money, lair, evidence hider, liar, attorney, liar, forensic expert, liar, nurse of decomposition, liar, photo expert, liar, fraudation owner, liar, Private investigator, liar, Law Enforcement officer, liar, detective, liar, media hound, liar, lazy disability collector, liar, blogger hater, liar…seems she believes she is all of these and more."
Yep, yep and yep.  I love it too!


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Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 13, 2010, 05:45:45 PM
Against my better judgement watched the msn clip.  She is praying for us bloggers and then says we should get a life and spend time helping others instead of hating on them.  I don't need their prayers.  I do not make it part of my daily life to lie about what my children have done nor do I have 5 different personalities and interchange them as I feel the situation requires.  I do not go around saying I have found god and renewed faith and then in the background write venom laden hateful emails about people who are trying nothing more than to make the truth surface.  They say they want to see this to the end no matter which road it takes, well then why do they instantly jump on, attempt to discredit, belittle and call names of anyone (Mr Morgan, Mr Nejame, Det Melich, etc.) who have no skin in the game and want nothing BUT to find the truth?  Save your prayers for yourself and your spawn Rosebud and about using time towards some good, how about you actually do something out of pure altruism?

I have to go wash my eyes out with bleech now that I have seen the clip. 
Cindy has no idea how much we ARE helping others.  One being Caylee.  WE stand united in seeking Justice for a young, innocent and  defenseless little girl who died at the hands of her own mother.  Yeah Cindy and we also help others by informing them of fraud if they donate to your "Cash Finders Foundation"  oh excuse me your Caylee Marie Foundation.  Don't think for one minute we don't help people because we do and some involves saving them from the likes of YOU.  Now go hide behind your Bible and shame on you for using God to make yourself look like a church going moral person, NOT!


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Post by: loca on August 13, 2010, 05:51:51 PM
Against my better judgement watched the msn clip.  She is praying for us bloggers and then says we should get a life and spend time helping others instead of hating on them.  I don't need their prayers.  I do not make it part of my daily life to lie about what my children have done nor do I have 5 different personalities and interchange them as I feel the situation requires.  I do not go around saying I have found god and renewed faith and then in the background write venom laden hateful emails about people who are trying nothing more than to make the truth surface.  They say they want to see this to the end no matter which road it takes, well then why do they instantly jump on, attempt to discredit, belittle and call names of anyone (Mr Morgan, Mr Nejame, Det Melich, etc.) who have no skin in the game and want nothing BUT to find the truth?  Save your prayers for yourself and your spawn Rosebud and about using time towards some good, how about you actually do something out of pure altruism?

I have to go wash my eyes out with bleech now that I have seen the clip. 
Cindy has no idea how much we ARE helping others.  One being Caylee.  WE stand united in seeking Justice for a young, innocent and  defenseless little girl who died at the hands of her own mother.  Yeah Cindy and we also help others by informing them of fraud if they donate to your "Cash Finders Foundation"  oh excuse me your Caylee Marie Foundation.  Don't think for one minute we don't help people because we do and some involves saving them from the likes of YOU.  Now go hide behind your Bible and shame on you for using God to make yourself look like a church going moral person, NOT!

lol miss


I get so angry when I see them on t.v that I have to physicaly take some deep breaths and hyperventelate to calm down. I swear they are making it look worse on themselves and their slut murdering daughter that did everyone she could including maybe her attorney. where is justice for caylee behind all those t.v shows.


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Post by: Terri on August 13, 2010, 05:54:43 PM
No Rose and Trimm,

I think when she looks in the mirror she is quite proud of herself.   IMHO, I think she honestly believes she is fooling EVERYONE and that BECAUSE OF HER, Casey will be free.  She honestly feels she is in control and that she is fooling those in positions of authority.

I think the same of Baez. They can feed off each other, not even knowing they look ridiculous.  The sad part is Casey is buying into these tactics and most likely will not take a deal.

Terri


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Post by: darla on August 13, 2010, 05:55:56 PM


http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/08/did-george-anthony-molest-casey-anthony.html
 ::monkeyscissors::

 what was said in that letter about me and my son are wrong. I'm not calling my daughter a liar. and I don't want someone to put some words in my mouth, but its wrong. Never ever would that happen in this house, thorugh me or my son when we do something to my daughter."



Well Georgie boy, if you aren't calling her a liar, then you are saying you did molest her????? Huh ,Huh,Huh?. Just spit it out chip.


Forgot my manners, Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr these idiots make me so d@mn mad. That pic above the article makes me want to drag out my iron skillet. What arrogance.
I am going to need a new skillet before this is over. I hope and pray that this case goes to trial, just so Cindy and George have to sit and listen to every word about how Caylee died and see every gruesome picture of her lil body when it wasd found.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 05:57:41 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/08/did-george-anthony-molest-casey-anthony.html
Friday, August 13, 2010
Did George Anthony Molest Casey Anthony

"I'm not calling my daughter a liar"

George, himself, present tense, does not say that Casey is lying. If someone is falsely accused of molestation, they will say, with boldness that the person making the assertion is lying.

Remember, lying is internally stressful and people will go a long way around things just to avoid the stress of lying. George does not deny molesting Casey; only that things in the letter are "wrong" but now tells us that he won't say that Casey is a liar. We would expect to see an innocent man declare that anyone that says he is a sexual molestor to be a liar.  ::MonkeyEek::  Well common sense, if you are not guilty of such an accusation you would scream from a rooftop that you are not guilty of doing that to your daughter. Between what George said, and Lee saying I love you in the last hearing, one really has to wonder about this  ::MonkeyShocked::


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 05:59:22 PM
No Rose and Trimm,

I think when she looks in the mirror she is quite proud of herself.   IMHO, I think she honestly believes she is fooling EVERYONE and that BECAUSE OF HER, Casey will be free.  She honestly feels she is in control and that she is fooling those in positions of authority.

I think the same of Baez. They can feed off each other, not even knowing they look ridiculous.  The sad part is Casey is buying into these tactics and most likely will not take a deal.

Terri
It is so hard to understand that, but you are probably right  ::MonkeyNoNo:: She thinks she is smarter than everyone else.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 13, 2010, 06:06:33 PM
No Rose and Trimm,

I think when she looks in the mirror she is quite proud of herself.   IMHO, I think she honestly believes she is fooling EVERYONE and that BECAUSE OF HER, Casey will be free.  She honestly feels she is in control and that she is fooling those in positions of authority.

I think the same of Baez. They can feed off each other, not even knowing they look ridiculous.  The sad part is Casey is buying into these tactics and most likely will not take a deal.

Terri
It is so hard to understand that, but you are probably right  ::MonkeyNoNo:: She thinks she is smarter than everyone else.

I agree.


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Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 13, 2010, 06:14:13 PM
No Rose and Trimm,

I think when she looks in the mirror she is quite proud of herself.   IMHO, I think she honestly believes she is fooling EVERYONE and that BECAUSE OF HER, Casey will be free.  She honestly feels she is in control and that she is fooling those in positions of authority.

I think the same of Baez. They can feed off each other, not even knowing they look ridiculous.  The sad part is Casey is buying into these tactics and most likely will not take a deal.

Terri

I think you are right...........they are both so narcissistic they have NO idea how stupid they look. They are a legend in ONLY their minds.  If you remember  BOZO got sued by an X client because he had this "great strategy" to unleash at the trial and it went BUST. The client got convicted. I think he and ms. stupid are doing the SAME thing again and expecting different results. (the definition of insanity)


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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 13, 2010, 06:14:56 PM
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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 13, 2010, 06:16:23 PM


http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/08/did-george-anthony-molest-casey-anthony.html
 ::monkeyscissors::

 what was said in that letter about me and my son are wrong. I'm not calling my daughter a liar. and I don't want someone to put some words in my mouth, but its wrong. Never ever would that happen in this house, thorugh me or my son when we do something to my daughter."



Well Georgie boy, if you aren't calling her a liar, then you are saying you did molest her????? Huh ,Huh,Huh?. Just spit it out chip.


Forgot my manners, Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr these idiots make me so d@mn mad. That pic above the article makes me want to drag out my iron skillet. What arrogance.
I am going to need a new skillet before this is over. I hope and pray that this case goes to trial, just so Cindy and George have to sit and listen to every word about how Caylee died and see every gruesome picture of her lil body when it wasd found.

Me too Darla.   ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 13, 2010, 06:16:37 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/08/did-george-anthony-molest-casey-anthony.html
Friday, August 13, 2010
Did George Anthony Molest Casey Anthony

"I'm not calling my daughter a liar"

George, himself, present tense, does not say that Casey is lying. If someone is falsely accused of molestation, they will say, with boldness that the person making the assertion is lying.

Remember, lying is internally stressful and people will go a long way around things just to avoid the stress of lying. George does not deny molesting Casey; only that things in the letter are "wrong" but now tells us that he won't say that Casey is a liar. We would expect to see an innocent man declare that anyone that says he is a sexual molestor to be a liar.  ::MonkeyEek::  Well common sense, if you are not guilty of such an accusation you would scream from a rooftop that you are not guilty of doing that to your daughter. Between what George said, and Lee saying I love you in the last hearing, one really has to wonder about this  ::MonkeyShocked::

He not only didn't deny it but used Cindy as his "backup." That to me spoke volumes. I have been suspicious of him from the first day on the case, and he is doing nothing now to make me change my mind. I still see him as a lecherous old man.


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Post by: SunnyinTX on August 13, 2010, 06:26:22 PM
It really is sad when people such as these are given not only air time but wined and dined, flown to NY and coddled.  I don't give a rat's ass how they spent Caylee's birthday. I don't give a rat's ass that poor ole sin-cin claims she is having panic attacks. I don't give a rat's ass what they say about anything.  too bad there is forenics that sin-cin doesn't understand. That doesn't make sense to her....no one ever accused her of being SMART!

Kerry Sander Sanders starts off by asking them if they were getting paid??? 
The smirks spoke much louder than the denial.  How has several really good opportunities to ask some very probing questions..but didn't. I don't have a link, but I KNOW they, dictate what they will and will NOT talk about.  Is Kathi Belich the only reporter that has what it takes to actually stand up to the scum in this case.  Thank God for Kathi!.  I'd love to see Mark NeJame and Kathi Belich collaborate on a book....BEST SELLER!!

NEWS FLASH to the A's!  Kc is not going to being doing anything with y'all ...she hates both of you.  She is never going to get out of jail/prison. No matter where you think you may be going for your new start....what you are and what you have done and continue to do will follow you the rest of your miserable existence. She will haunt your every moment....as MNJ said...some people are the underbelly of the earth....


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 06:32:43 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/08/did-george-anthony-molest-casey-anthony.html
Friday, August 13, 2010
Did George Anthony Molest Casey Anthony

"I'm not calling my daughter a liar"

George, himself, present tense, does not say that Casey is lying. If someone is falsely accused of molestation, they will say, with boldness that the person making the assertion is lying.

Remember, lying is internally stressful and people will go a long way around things just to avoid the stress of lying. George does not deny molesting Casey; only that things in the letter are "wrong" but now tells us that he won't say that Casey is a liar. We would expect to see an innocent man declare that anyone that says he is a sexual molestor to be a liar.  ::MonkeyEek::  Well common sense, if you are not guilty of such an accusation you would scream from a rooftop that you are not guilty of doing that to your daughter. Between what George said, and Lee saying I love you in the last hearing, one really has to wonder about this  ::MonkeyShocked::

He not only didn't deny it but used Cindy as his "backup." That to me spoke volumes. I have been suspicious of him from the first day on the case, and he is doing nothing now to make me change my mind. I still see him as a lecherous old man.
I kept telling myself no to the accusations of molestation, now after this I'm beginning to think something did happen  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: He does look like a lecherous old man, he gives me the creeps.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 06:36:11 PM
It really is sad when people such as these are given not only air time but wined and dined, flown to NY and coddled.  I don't give a rat's ass how they spent Caylee's birthday. I don't give a rat's ass that poor ole sin-cin claims she is having panic attacks. I don't give a rat's ass what they say about anything.  too bad there is forenics that sin-cin doesn't understand. That doesn't make sense to her....no one ever accused her of being SMART!

Kerry Sander Sanders starts off by asking them if they were getting paid??? 
The smirks spoke much louder than the denial.  How has several really good opportunities to ask some very probing questions..but didn't. I don't have a link, but I KNOW they, dictate what they will and will NOT talk about.  Is Kathi Belich the only reporter that has what it takes to actually stand up to the scum in this case.  Thank God for Kathi!.  I'd love to see Mark NeJame and Kathi Belich collaborate on a book....BEST SELLER!!

NEWS FLASH to the A's!  Kc is not going to being doing anything with y'all ...she hates both of you.  She is never going to get out of jail/prison. No matter where you think you may be going for your new start....what you are and what you have done and continue to do will follow you the rest of your miserable existence. She will haunt your every moment....as MNJ said...some people are the underbelly of the earth....
::MonkeyCool::  Great post, I agree with everything you just said. I honestly don't know why the Today Show would even think these jerks would get an audience? Dina Lohan was also on the Today Show today, I would rather listen to her insane babble about her daughter Lindsey Lohan, and you can't get much worse then that  ::MonkeyEek::


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Post by: loca on August 13, 2010, 06:44:09 PM
It really is sad when people such as these are given not only air time but wined and dined, flown to NY and coddled.  I don't give a rat's ass how they spent Caylee's birthday. I don't give a rat's ass that poor ole sin-cin claims she is having panic attacks. I don't give a rat's ass what they say about anything.  too bad there is forenics that sin-cin doesn't understand. That doesn't make sense to her....no one ever accused her of being SMART!

Kerry Sander Sanders starts off by asking them if they were getting paid??? 
The smirks spoke much louder than the denial.  How has several really good opportunities to ask some very probing questions..but didn't. I don't have a link, but I KNOW they, dictate what they will and will NOT talk about.  Is Kathi Belich the only reporter that has what it takes to actually stand up to the scum in this case.  Thank God for Kathi!.  I'd love to see Mark NeJame and Kathi Belich collaborate on a book....BEST SELLER!!

NEWS FLASH to the A's!  Kc is not going to being doing anything with y'all ...she hates both of you.  She is never going to get out of jail/prison. No matter where you think you may be going for your new start....what you are and what you have done and continue to do will follow you the rest of your miserable existence. She will haunt your every moment....as MNJ said...some people are the underbelly of the earth....
::MonkeyCool::  Great post, I agree with everything you just said. I honestly don't know why the Today Show would even think these jerks would get an audience? Dina Lohan was also on the Today Show today, I would rather listen to her insane babble about her daughter Lindsey Lohan, and you can't get much worse then that  ::MonkeyEek::

Rose

watching Lyndey Lohans mom! I got the feeling that I was watching cindy anthony!  sounded so like cindy in her actions.


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Post by: Northern Rose on August 13, 2010, 07:14:48 PM
JVM is covering it and LP is on the panel  ::CowboySmiley::


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2010, 07:16:09 PM
JVM is covering it and LP is on the panel  ::CowboySmiley::
Loca, yes Dina Lohan is a big mess also  ::MonkeyEek::  Why is he back in this circus?


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Post by: MuffyBee on August 13, 2010, 07:16:33 PM
JVM is covering it and LP is on the panel  ::CowboySmiley::


This LP?

(http://bestsmileys.com/cowboy1/12.gif)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 13, 2010, 07:17:15 PM
JVM is covering it and LP is on the panel  ::CowboySmiley::


This LP?

(http://bestsmileys.com/cowboy1/12.gif)



yes ma'am!


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Post by: Northern Rose on August 13, 2010, 07:19:18 PM
Jane Winetraub keeps getting a look of disgust everytime LP speaks and just tried to rip him a new one for his conspiracy theory that someone at the jail overheard Spawn tell Bobo where the body was and that is how Caylee was found.


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Post by: loca on August 13, 2010, 07:21:32 PM
Jane Winetraub keeps getting a look of disgust everytime LP speaks and just tried to rip him a new one for his conspiracy theory that someone at the jail overheard Spawn tell Bobo where the body was and that is how Caylee was found.

Grrrr why do they even have that fool on the show? His ego is bigger than his ten gallon hat is!! ::MonkeyMad::


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Post by: loca on August 13, 2010, 07:22:07 PM
JVM is covering it and LP is on the panel  ::CowboySmiley::


This LP?

(http://bestsmileys.com/cowboy1/12.gif)



yes ma'am!

Lol rose

tooo funny


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 13, 2010, 07:24:14 PM
JVM is covering it and LP is on the panel  ::CowboySmiley::
Loca, yes Dina Lohan is a big mess also  ::MonkeyEek::  Why is he back in this circus?

Rose
that was my thought too! I see the other judge! the one that was involved in the anna nicole thing!! seems to stumble over his words! dont make sense to me at least!. I am glad Jane is giving coverage as for some reason Nancy isnt covering anything on it like in the begining. This is good today.  wonder what cindy thinks now!! everyone viewing HLN today!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 13, 2010, 07:26:30 PM
JVM is covering it and LP is on the panel  ::CowboySmiley::
Loca, yes Dina Lohan is a big mess also  ::MonkeyEek::  Why is he back in this circus?

Rose
that was my thought too! I see the other judge! the one that was involved in the anna nicole thing!! seems to stumble over his words! dont make sense to me at least!. I am glad Jane is giving coverage as for some reason Nancy isnt covering anything on it like in the begining. This is good today.  wonder what cindy thinks now!! everyone viewing HLN today!!!

Jane whinetrob!! is getting on my last nerve.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 13, 2010, 07:29:15 PM
JVM is covering it and LP is on the panel  ::CowboySmiley::
Loca, yes Dina Lohan is a big mess also  ::MonkeyEek::  Why is he back in this circus?

Rose
that was my thought too! I see the other judge! the one that was involved in the anna nicole thing!! seems to stumble over his words! dont make sense to me at least!. I am glad Jane is giving coverage as for some reason Nancy isnt covering anything on it like in the begining. This is good today.  wonder what cindy thinks now!! everyone viewing HLN today!!!

Jane whinetrob!! is getting on my last nerve.

She is grating for sure. She is slamming anyone that says there is enough evidence to convict.  She was going after Jinkasaurus before and just went after Mike Brooks as he was talking about the duct tape and laundry bag.


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Post by: Northern Rose on August 13, 2010, 07:40:50 PM
Why is JVM saying the defense is saying there is no Zanny?  Is it speculation or was there something that came out that I missed recently?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 13, 2010, 07:48:55 PM
Why is JVM saying the defense is saying there is no Zanny?  Is it speculation or was there something that came out that I missed recently?

I am so re-assured that casey will be convicted with help from her parents.
they need to keep whinethrob and padilla off the show.
HLN did a good job of this show I think! especialy in light of the today show.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 13, 2010, 07:51:38 PM
Why is JVM saying the defense is saying there is no Zanny?  Is it speculation or was there something that came out that I missed recently?
yeah they are trying to say that zanny the nanny wont even be brought up by the defense! but the prosecution will use it I am sure. how does winethrob! figure that there isnt enough that the state has  Grrrr


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 13, 2010, 07:51:43 PM
Winetraub is saying the state can not prove that Casey killed Caylee nor can they prove count 2 of the charges aggravated child abuse as there were no broken bones.  It will all depend on who the jury is as there is no proof.


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Post by: jjayinthemorning on August 13, 2010, 08:10:29 PM
Add to George's admission of molestation the statement he said "that is not my granddaughter in the trunk of the car" all emotional with persed lips, and you have the baby daddy, bingo.
The baby in the trunk was indeed not his granddaughter, it was his daughter... made with his other daughter Casey. eww.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: jjayinthemorning on August 13, 2010, 08:12:34 PM
Winetraub is saying the state can not prove that Casey killed Caylee nor can they prove count 2 of the charges aggravated child abuse as there were no broken bones.  It will all depend on who the jury is as there is no proof.
Yeah we know that Janie. Most circumstantial cases have no proof. jez.
Aggrivated abuse could come from chloroform found in hair and connected to Casey, or proof that she was alive in the trunk...


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Post by: SunnyinTX on August 13, 2010, 08:13:35 PM
Add to George's admission of molestation the statement he said "that is not my granddaughter in the trunk of the car" all emotional with persed lips, and you have the baby daddy, bingo.
The baby in the trunk was indeed not his granddaughter, it was his daughter... made with his other daughter Casey. eww.

??????  When did GA admit to molestation????


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Post by: ISpy on August 13, 2010, 08:32:56 PM
Hello, everyone! Thinking things over from today and realized George is in far more trouble than he realizes.  If he goes along with the "I molested Casey" in the penalty phase to save Casey, he's going down.  Personally, I think Cindy & Lee will readily throw George under the bus with Lee's depo comments that Dad's hobby is cleaning the family cars and Cindy's July15th depo statements regarding George and the whole dead body/rotting pizza smell story.   The fact remains, there were prints on Casey's trunk lid, but only a single latent print remained and the trunk had been cleaned.  IMO, in her vehement attempts to free Casey, Cindy will allow George to be sacrificed.  The question is, is George willing?  IMO, George may be somewhat willing to lie for Casey, but he's not going to go to Death Row for her.  I predict a massive implosion/explosion as the Anthony family fractures.  Given George and Cindy's penchant for temper tantrums, along with whatever leverage each has on the other, it's not likely their marriage will survive this trial intact.  We're already seeing seismic tremors in their relationship in court and on the TODAY show.  I pray too and I pray George does the right thing, the Godly thing, and tells LE the complete 100% accurate truth as it really happened.  Otherwise, he'll never have any peace in his life again.  Truthfully, if he chooses to do that, I think he may even be surprised to find some compassion and maybe even some understanding from the public.  George has been carrying a lot of things for a long time; I'm sure that load's getting heavier with each day.  Telling the truth really does set you free.  Sure, it may not always be comfortable at the time, but it's a whole lot easier than slogging through life with all that baggage.

**Message to George:  Isn't it time to come in from the storm?  Courage isn't the absence of fear, it's acting in spite of fear.  You have not gone so far that there is no return.  I believe you know the way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Scatty on August 13, 2010, 08:44:15 PM
Winetraub is saying the state can not prove that Casey killed Caylee nor can they prove count 2 of the charges aggravated child abuse as there were no broken bones.  It will all depend on who the jury is as there is no proof.
Yeah we know that Janie. Most circumstantial cases have no proof. jez.
Aggrivated abuse could come from chloroform found in hair and connected to Casey, or proof that she was alive in the trunk...

Or duct tape covering her air passages.


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Post by: Ono on August 13, 2010, 09:02:28 PM
"The family celebrated what would have been Caylee's 5th birthday Monday by planting a bush in the backyard near the child's playhouse. "

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-parents-today-show-20100813,0,4842581.story

 ::MonkeyEek::

I 'second' your emotion!     [ Maybe they will sell cuttings ... ]


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Post by: numbersgirl on August 13, 2010, 09:14:22 PM
Personally, I can't see how the A's cameos are doing anything but infuriating the jury pool.  Cindy is just bat $hit crazy and George's failure to unequivocally deny KC's molestation accusations makes them both look stupid.  Where is Cindy on the molestation factor?  How can they continue to go on TV and spew this crap?  I can't believe these two leave their house without wearing  bags over their heads.  Can you imagine what it's like for them to walk through an airport?

George...I know you can't call you daughter a liar...so does that mean she's telling the truth about her molestation accusations?  You can't have it both ways!  Somebody's lying!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: ISpy on August 13, 2010, 09:15:11 PM
Got to run!  It's good to finally catch up (for once-LOL!).  All things being considered, I'm not saying George molested anybody.  I am saying, if he did, now's the time to come forward.  There will never be a better time or opportunity, particularly if Cindy/Lee turn on him in their mission to "save Casey"...and I fully believe it's only a matter of time that they will.  To my untrained eyes, as much as George wants to believe in family loyalty, the truth is Cindy, Casey,and Lee consider him expendable (IMO).  They clearly disrespect him.  They've already begun planting seeds of George did it:  Cindy, carefully and intentionally reiterating, repeatedly, on July 15th George was the last one to see both of them; Cindy in her depos saying repeatedly when pressed on issues like the gas cans and George's confrontation with Casey, "You'll have to ask George about that."; Lee so freely sharing in his depo that Dad likes to detail cars and Lee's completely unabashed and unqualified "I love you" to Casey in court; Casey publicly setting George up (IMHO) in her jail letters; and her past scornful remarks to George and about George to friends and family.  I'm surprised Cindy hasn't just out and out accused George of doing it.  I can clearly see her doing just that or saying George pushed Casey to kill Caylee to "protect" Caylee from him.  IMO, she's pressuring (maybe even threatening/blackmailing) George to go along with whatever she tries to spin.  Anyone with half a brain can clearly see George is uncomfortable (at best) and more than a little unwilling.  If he's ever going to get out from under, NOW is the time, while the getting is good.  His best defense if a good offense-one that consists of going to LE (if there's an officer from his police interview or from the night at the Motel that he can call) and just telling him everything he knows/has done (if that's the case).  Rather than being embarrassed and ashamed, I think he'll be surprised to find how much that officer and many more will respect him for it, knowing it took guts and courage on George's part.  JMHO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Babybear on August 13, 2010, 09:40:22 PM
"The family celebrated what would have been Caylee's 5th birthday Monday by planting a bush in the backyard near the child's playhouse. "

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-parents-today-show-20100813,0,4842581.story

 ::MonkeyEek::

I 'second' your emotion!     [ Maybe they will sell cuttings ... ]

I, myself, have never celebrated a deceased person's birthday with a dinner and a cake.  I have reflected on how much I miss the person and the times we shared.  Never with a birthday cake, though.

I feel no pity for any of the anthonys except Caylee.  Cindy is guilty of allowing Casey free rein to lie, cheat, steal and then cover for her by telling lies herself and practically bankrupting the family savings to repay Casey's charges on Cindy's credit cards.  Cindy said in her first or second 011 call that she wanted Casey arrested for stealing a lot of money and she had the statements proving it.  Also she accused Casey of stealing her car.  Cindy knew very well that Casey did not have a job, but got mad at George for checking up on her.  I wonder if it didn't occur to her that maybe Caylee wasn't being taken care of during the day.  She most certainly knew that the only money Casey had was money she, Cindy, gave her or money Casey stole.  She also knew that "Nannies" don't work for free. Although Casey actually applied the duct tape, Cindy was responsible for what Casey became--a murderer.

George apparently did nothing to restrain Cindy because she was his meal ticket and had been during the whole time they lived in Florida.  It isn't known exactly why George left Cindy shortly after Caylee was born, but I suspect it had something to do with Casey lack of responsibility in her life.

I don't know what part Lee played, but I believe Casey's story about the flashlight in the middle of the night.  She had told people other than "Muffin" about it.

So, I think that Cindy thinks that if she can somehow get Casey free, she will free herself.  It won't happen Cindy.  Casey will not be joining you and George in any fraudulent foundation.  In fact, anyone who sends money to you should be committed.

And all of this talk about "Circumstantial evidence" is just talk.  Most cases are prosecuted and won with circumstantial evidence.  It is rare that a murder has an eyewitness.


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Post by: shy-monkey on August 13, 2010, 10:15:19 PM
shy-monkey thank-you for sharing your story  ::MonkeyAngel::  I have tried to put myself and what I would have done if I were Cindy. I can honestly say, I don't know, but what I do know is that I never would have been so public making comments and going on TV shows. I'm a private person and that wouldn't be in my behavior, also I know that I wouldn't have lied or obstructed justice, that is against what I believe, I would back her, I wouldn't cover for her.


I totally agree, I too wouldn't have been so public, I seriously don't think I physically or emotionally could, while trying to wrap my head around all these horrific details, for starters. With George and Cindy's stories continually changing what they refer to as "the facts" they have to be aware of at least some, if not all, of their inconsistencies, yet they keep signing up with various networks, to tell their new and improved version of "the facts." Them going public after Caylee was found and Casey was charged with her murder, has never made sense to me. Is it possible they've been told to be inconsistent as some sort of legal strategy used to get stuff thrown out, like them? Them as witnesses, along with any and all statements they've made, 911 calls, police interviews etc? I don't know how all the trial evidence and motions work, but if it is a possibility then why in the heck is any network giving them a public platform in the first place?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 13, 2010, 10:24:18 PM
One of the many things from the long interview on MSNBC which I found rediculous was their prissy attitude that nobody has the right to drive down their street, snap photos, and basically just be normally curious about a very public and very bizarre murder case! lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 13, 2010, 10:50:56 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/08/did-george-anthony-molest-casey-anthony.html
Friday, August 13, 2010
Did George Anthony Molest Casey Anthony

"I'm not calling my daughter a liar"

George, himself, present tense, does not say that Casey is lying. If someone is falsely accused of molestation, they will say, with boldness that the person making the assertion is lying.

Remember, lying is internally stressful and people will go a long way around things just to avoid the stress of lying. George does not deny molesting Casey; only that things in the letter are "wrong" but now tells us that he won't say that Casey is a liar. We would expect to see an innocent man declare that anyone that says he is a sexual molestor to be a liar.  ::MonkeyEek::  Well common sense, if you are not guilty of such an accusation you would scream from a rooftop that you are not guilty of doing that to your daughter. Between what George said, and Lee saying I love you in the last hearing, one really has to wonder about this  ::MonkeyShocked::

He not only didn't deny it but used Cindy as his "backup." That to me spoke volumes. I have been suspicious of him from the first day on the case, and he is doing nothing now to make me change my mind. I still see him as a lecherous old man.
I kept telling myself no to the accusations of molestation, now after this I'm beginning to think something did happen  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: He does look like a lecherous old man, he gives me the creeps.

I'm now really beginning to question it also.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 13, 2010, 11:08:07 PM
Caylee Anthony: George, Cindy visit ‘Today’ for a nothing interview »

Casey Anthony: Mom Cindy tells NBC that she believes Casey will come home to work on foundation


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 13, 2010, 11:43:15 PM
I am thinking that this and all the interviews may be a good thing. They have been caught in SO MANY lies in these interviews that the state needs very little from them in the upcoming depositions. All they need is to ask them the questions they have already lied about on TV. All those interviews are admissible in court.

Now, to what I really want to say. Cindy is methodically and deliberately putting that needle in KC's arm. Just like she set up the trip to the police station and the calls to 911, she has a plan and that plan is for KC to either die or spend the rest of her life in jail. If you think about it, she has done EVERYTHING to make KC look guilty. Does anyone really think that " what have you done, what have you done now?" was a random remark?

Cindy KNEW that Caylee was gone I think even before they got the car. She went to a counselor and looked into taking Caylee but really did not want her. She raised hell about having to keep her for KC when she "thought" KC was working. Cindy did not want that baby anymore than KC did. If that baby really is George's then she was destined to die at either KC or Cindy's hand because every time either of them looked at her they saw the betrayal and the family lies.

It may appear to some that Cindy is protecting KC but I honestly believe she is setting KC up. She has done everything which points straight to KC as the murderer. She did not hide those receipts from LE to protect KC but knowing they would get a warrant and it would make KC look more guilty. Cindy has been and still is jealous of KC. She is jealous of her youth, and her ability to get men.

Cindy in my opinion is and always has been a "want a be" enchantress. Look at how she hovers and feels all over men. She acts like a tramp hunting their prey. If George would not stay with her and tried to divorce her WHO is she going to get as nuts as she is?  NO ONE. She reminds me of not particularly attractive girls in college who could not get the hot guys. They were jealous of naturally attractive other women and did things to sabotage those good looking women lives. Think back how many times you  have seen this over the years. When these jealous "nobodies" had girls they live their entire lives vicariously though those girls. They try to live the lives they never experienced. Then we have crazy KC who didn't even graduate high school and Cindy's dreams are smashed and when KC tells her that "good ole day" is banging her, Cindy goes into revenge mode and that is where she has been for a long time, and it continues until today. That is what I see in Cindy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 13, 2010, 11:54:20 PM
Add to George's admission of molestation the statement he said "that is not my granddaughter in the trunk of the car" all emotional with persed lips, and you have the baby daddy, bingo.
The baby in the trunk was indeed not his granddaughter, it was his daughter..
. made with his other daughter Casey. eww.

BINGO ~~ I am still not convinced that KC didn't have help disposing of that body from someone in the family. I found it interesting today George calling Caylee "that little girl" again.........He has done this since the beginning and that has always bothered me how detached he was when he spoke of her. That in the early days made me think he disposed of the body and I am still not sure that KC didn't have her in the trunk and George did that.

Didn't you love the way Cindy called that precious little baby "the remains?" That is SO freaky to me. I lost an older brother 30 years ago and to this day I could never call his body, "the remains" - I don't give a big rat's *ss how much they state their love for Caylee, it is all a LIE - they NEVER loved her, they used her as another possession and that is all that baby was to them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: shy-monkey on August 14, 2010, 12:02:22 AM
I'm going to share something here.  I have a brother currently incarcerated as a convicted SO.  I am VERY aware of the dynamics of the family...the denial, the justifications, the grief.  I have a parent who is still supportive of him.  But I can honestly say, that when he came up for parole, and there was lobbying from within the family to write letters of recommendation for him, I did the opposite. 

So I guess I have some insight, and or empathy for some of the players in this circus, but in no way could I EVER cover up, or lie to benefit a relative I know had done something heinous.  It has caused many family conflicts, but in the end, I gotta live with ME.

That's what I'm talkin' about- it's comments like yours that keep SM my favorite forum. I think if put in your situation I would have thought it through and done the same thing you did. If I was the mom of the person charged and/or convicted of a really bad crime, I also think I'd come to the same conclusion, but I'm not entirely sure, I also pray I never have to find out. Being a mom I have tried my best raising my kids to be kind, caring, respectful, productive citizens, but even with giving it my all I can still think of many times I would have loved a do over-lol hindsight sure is 20/20, too bad moving forward isn't.
I still do think when it comes to serious crimes, like killing a child, the accused's parents sit in the worst position-knowing they are the sole reason the person who committed the crime exists, combined with questioning their parenting, where they went so wrong, has to be total Hell.   

Anyway..... ::MonkeyHaHa:: being in agreement ,with you, isn't why I want to clap and yell YES ::MonkeyDance:: though!!!! but rather because your comment could easily make a difference. This forum is read by so-so many people and your honesty, down to your going against your family's wishes, says it's okay to take a different stance than expected by family, especially when it's one they believe in and can easily live with.
Your story of not writing to the parole board could easily be the lightbulb that goes off and the deciding factor for someone else to put their pen down, before writing a parole recommendation for someone they doubted even should be paroled. We may never know but their unwritten recommendation might be all that stands between that potential parolee and their next victim.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 14, 2010, 12:13:23 AM
Caylee Anthony: George, Cindy visit ‘Today’ for a nothing interview »

Casey Anthony: Mom Cindy tells NBC that she believes Casey will come home to work on foundation


She may work on "foundation" but it will be the foundation of the state women penitentiary.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 14, 2010, 12:33:02 AM
Caylee Anthony: George, Cindy visit ‘Today’ for a nothing interview »

Casey Anthony: Mom Cindy tells NBC that she believes Casey will come home to work on foundation


She may work on "foundation" but it will be the foundation of the state women penitentiary.

lol turbo
yeah these people are off the hook!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 14, 2010, 12:48:20 AM
WESH.COM is doing a story that George will be telling, about Cayse saying he molested her. Here on the 11:00PM news channel


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: shy-monkey on August 14, 2010, 01:09:41 AM
This is a really bitchy comment but I can't resist - someone had remarked earlier that women of a certain age need to re-think sleeveless dresses.  This is especially true of Rosebud, particularly since she has porked up considerably since the early days of stressouts and no sleep.  Her upper arms looked like Virginia hams.  (So do mine, but I try to keep them covered up.)  Only one more characteristic of a really disgusting situation. 

LOL-Virginia hams-too funny, now I have to locate these pictures. Are they on SM?

Speaking of pictures I love your Papillon pic-that's a gorgeous dog! Papillons are the best pests ever-we just bought our second one this week, the only sable & white one and the only little girl in the litter-had the black & white been a female we probably would have taken it....too-LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 14, 2010, 01:20:36 AM
WESH.COM is doing a story that George will be telling, about Cayse saying he molested her. Here on the 11:00PM news channel

What are they saying?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 14, 2010, 01:29:56 AM
WESH.COM is doing a story that George will be telling, about Cayse saying he molested her. Here on the 11:00PM news channel

What are they saying?


Turbo
I am trying to find out I read that posted at blinks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 14, 2010, 01:37:31 AM
WESH.COM is doing a story that George will be telling, about Cayse saying he molested her. Here on the 11:00PM news channel

What are they saying?


Turbo
I am trying to find out I read that posted at blinks.

http://www.wesh.com/video/24625842/detail.html
seems like they are repeating what we seen on MSNBC


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 14, 2010, 01:52:30 AM
WESH.COM is doing a story that George will be telling, about Cayse saying he molested her. Here on the 11:00PM news channel

What are they saying?


Turbo
I am trying to find out I read that posted at blinks.

http://www.wesh.com/video/24625842/detail.html
seems like they are repeating what we seen on MSNBC


I think you are right, and this is the same one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on August 14, 2010, 04:50:10 AM

"I'm not certain of all the forensic evidence, there's a lot that doesn't make sense to me. I have not been able to find anything in it that actually proves it's Caylee," Cindy Anthony said.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  How about DNA?

Wasn't it supposed to be a lock of Caylee's hair that Cindy was supposed to be wearing in a pendant around her neck at the memorial???

Just whose hair did she think it was if not Caylee's and why was she wearing something so personal of a stranger's ??

I call BS on Cindy's assertion that she thinks Caylee may be alive. She does NOT believe that IMO. She's just trying to get the Elvis spotters on her side because everyone else knows better!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 14, 2010, 08:05:52 AM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ijvm.html
August 13, 2010
• Casey Anthony: Tale of the Tapes


<snipped>
Jean Casarez, how is the prosecution going to lay out all this forensic evidence?

CASAREZ: Well, by their witnesses but they`ve got a big challenge here because the duct tape that was across the mouth that ultraviolet light later showed that heart-shaped sticker, a photograph wasn`t taken. The tape was destroyed. And so the agent will have to testify as to her belief on it. But it hurts the prosecution case.

But the most challenging part for the defense is the brand of duct tape because it was Henkel duct tape. And that`s the same brand that was found on the gas can that was in the garage that Casey routinely used to put gas in her car.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, Jayne Weintraub, how is the defense going to get around that a rare brand of duct tape found in the Anthony home as well as at the crime scene?

WEINTRAUB: Because with all due respect to Jean Casarez, I don`t think it was a rare brand. As a matter of fact, to the contrary. I think it`s a very common brand. And they did find that it didn`t match the duct tape from the gas can in the shed of the backyard of the Anthonys.

And so I think that the defense is fine with it. It doesn`t prove anything. It has no evidentiary value to Casey Anthony. Yes, there was duct tape but let`s remember there`s no fingerprint evidence on the duct tape. There was no serology on the duct tape.

And similar -- similar evidence of duct tape, because there was duct tape, doesn`t get it into evidence. It has to be the same to connect it to Casey Anthony.


JW is an idiot.  :smt075 :smt062 :smt097




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: numbersgirl on August 14, 2010, 08:24:29 AM
The Ants are on Today live again this AM. 

Cindy complaining that the notes to KC aren't private, visits aren't private. 

Played the 911 call and asked if they are any closer to finding what happened to Caylee.  Cindy says so much evidence yet to be found.
Asked about 30 day delay - Cindy says she doesn't know what traumatic event happened to KC.  KC is a victim herself.

Geo talking about how hard it is..wants to see KC to tell her they love her.

My summation:  Ants get a weekend in NYC - apparently this will be an annual event for them.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: tupelohoney on August 14, 2010, 08:33:22 AM
The Ants are on Today live again this AM. 

Cindy complaining that the notes to KC aren't private, visits aren't private. 

Played the 911 call and asked if they are any closer to finding what happened to Caylee.  Cindy says so much evidence yet to be found.
Asked about 30 day delay - Cindy says she doesn't know what traumatic event happened to KC.  KC is a victim herself.

Geo talking about how hard it is..wants to see KC to tell her they love her.

My summation:  Ants get a weekend in NYC - apparently this will be an annual event for them.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Mornin' Monks!  First thing I had to see this am was them....again.  ::MonkeyNoNo::   Cindy says she doesn't know what traumatic event happened to KC.  Gee, could it be that you, Cindy, choked the carp out of her and threatened to take her daughter away? Still doesn't excuse Casey for taking Caylee's life.  Nothing excuses her from that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 14, 2010, 08:34:30 AM
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/
Friday, August 13, 2010
Mark NeJame Responds to Baez and Mason


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: cookie on August 14, 2010, 09:50:23 AM
watched part of the interview from the link that Trimm provided..could not finish watching it!
Cindy looks awful with that hair..again, Casey grows her hair long, Cindy grows her hair out! trying to still be that BFF to her daughter and emulate her..

why isn't there a gag order on these 2? why are they allowed to go on tv and keep proclaiming Casey's innocence and talking about this case??? why is their attorney allowing this when everything that they say can come back to bite them...not that I care..hope it does happen to them..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 14, 2010, 09:53:25 AM
from BOZO's facebook

Jose Baez:  I missed it. (Meteor Shower)  I am out of town on a Forensic Science conference, all work no play. I have got to stop and smell the roses.
10 hours ago ·

I wonder if he will submit the charges for this little adventure to JAC????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 14, 2010, 10:04:40 AM
The Ants are on Today live again this AM. 

Cindy complaining that the notes to KC aren't private, visits aren't private. 

Played the 911 call and asked if they are any closer to finding what happened to Caylee.  Cindy says so much evidence yet to be found.
Asked about 30 day delay - Cindy says she doesn't know what traumatic event happened to KC.  KC is a victim herself.

Geo talking about how hard it is..wants to see KC to tell her they love her.

My summation:  Ants get a weekend in NYC - apparently this will be an annual event for them.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Mornin' Monks!  First thing I had to see this am was them....again.  ::MonkeyNoNo::   Cindy says she doesn't know what traumatic event happened to KC.  Gee, could it be that you, Cindy, choked the carp out of her and threatened to take her daughter away? Still doesn't excuse Casey for taking Caylee's life.  Nothing excuses her from that.
Are you kidding me, again?  ::MonkeyEek::  I agree with you, Cindy you choked her, and she got back at you, I believe it is that simple.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 14, 2010, 10:06:00 AM
from BOZO's facebook

Jose Baez:  I missed it. (Meteor Shower)  I am out of town on a Forensic Science conference, all work no play. I have got to stop and smell the roses.
10 hours ago ·

I wonder if he will submit the charges for this little adventure to JAC????
And since when did this azz become a forensic scientist?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 14, 2010, 10:36:18 AM
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/
Friday, August 13, 2010
Mark NeJame Responds to Baez and Mason


Thank you!!      ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Curly on August 14, 2010, 10:39:26 AM
The Ants are on Today live again this AM. 

Cindy complaining that the notes to KC aren't private, visits aren't private. 

Played the 911 call and asked if they are any closer to finding what happened to Caylee.  Cindy says so much evidence yet to be found.
Asked about 30 day delay - Cindy says she doesn't know what traumatic event happened to KC.  KC is a victim herself.

Geo talking about how hard it is..wants to see KC to tell her they love her.

My summation:  Ants get a weekend in NYC - apparently this will be an annual event for them.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Mornin' Monks!  First thing I had to see this am was them....again.  ::MonkeyNoNo::   Cindy says she doesn't know what traumatic event happened to KC.  Gee, could it be that you, Cindy, choked the carp out of her and threatened to take her daughter away? Still doesn't excuse Casey for taking Caylee's life.  Nothing excuses her from that.
Are you kidding me, again?  ::MonkeyEek::  I agree with you, Cindy you choked her, and she got back at you, I believe it is that simple.

I agree with this. It was only a matter of time before Casey proceeded with her plan to kill Caylee (re: computer searches). The fight was the catalyst.

I don't see George agreeing to entertain the molestation accusation and take the blame for it. He's still reeling from it. He also mentioned that he's under investigation now and as far as I can see, he's pissed.

Casey did the killing all on her own. The only thing that I find incredible is that she left no fingerprints on the duct tape. She could have been wearing gloves and a disposable cover up, but I know that when I wear gloves at work and try to use Scotch tape, that tapes gets all over the gloves, gets all tangled, tears up the gloves, etc. Somehow she managed not to leave a fingerprint. That I find very mysterious.

I've never bought that George is the father of Caylee. The father has to be one of her *uck-buddies.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 14, 2010, 10:40:25 AM
from BOZO's facebook

Jose Baez:  I missed it. (Meteor Shower)  I am out of town on a Forensic Science conference, all work no play. I have got to stop and smell the roses.
10 hours ago ·

I wonder if he will submit the charges for this little adventure to JAC????
And since when did this azz become a forensic scientist?

LOL-and who really cares that he's not getting enough playtime.  It's like those Facebook posters who announce every mundane activity in their day. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 14, 2010, 10:56:22 AM
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/50221424/08122010-Nejame-Reply-to-Defense-Response-to-Motion-to-Quash

Sorry if this has already been posted....I haven't had time to read back yet.

As usual....it's  BRILLIANT!!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: ccndixie on August 14, 2010, 11:31:57 AM
This is a really bitchy comment but I can't resist - someone had remarked earlier that women of a certain age need to re-think sleeveless dresses.  This is especially true of Rosebud, particularly since she has porked up considerably since the early days of stressouts and no sleep.  Her upper arms looked like Virginia hams.  (So do mine, but I try to keep them covered up.)  Only one more characteristic of a really disgusting situation. 

LOL-Virginia hams-too funny, now I have to locate these pictures. Are they on SM?

Speaking of pictures I love your Papillon pic-that's a gorgeous dog! Papillons are the best pests ever-we just bought our second one this week, the only sable & white one and the only little girl in the litter-had the black & white been a female we probably would have taken it....too-LOL

Thanks!  She is my little bundle o'joy all right - 6 pounds of diva dog!  She is my first papillon but won't be the last.  Love her disposition and intelligence.  The grandkids adore her and want her for sleepovers!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Babybear on August 14, 2010, 11:34:50 AM
Good morning Monkeys-----

A TRAMAUTIC EVENT?  I think that likely if your mother tries to choke you with her hands around your neck, it would be a little bit traumatic.  While they are all trying to back away from their original statements, of course that happened. Lee told LE about it before he knew what the Anthony program was.

I don't think even Cindy knew what the program was before the third 911 call where she blew the whole thing with the "Dead body" statement.

It is also my firm opinion that on June 24, 2008, George Anthony did indeed look inside the trunk and he saw Caylee's body, decomposing there with Casey having driven around for days smelling the results of her conduct.
I believe that George helped her place Caylee's little body in garbage bags and that he, himself, threw her into the woods on that day. 

Never having been in the position of having a family member jailed for any reason or, to the best of my knowledge, having an SO in the family, I can understand those who have experienced any of the things which occurred in the Anthony family being of two minds how they would deal with Casey.  I hope, and I know it's easy for me to say, that I would say to my daughter that I loved her and would always support her, but she would have to face the consequences of her actions.

But George and Cindy's actions have gone a long way from supporting their daughter.  They have, IMO, interferred in the investigation, tampered with evidence, lied to LE and myriad other transgressions for which I believe, they will never face justice.

I don't think Cindy ever understood where she ended and Casey began.  It's as if they were one organism, like an amoeba, trying to divide into two organisms, but never quite achieving it.  They are still joined together even though Casey is in jail. Casey might have wanted to divide from Cindy, but to do so meant taking some actions which she was not prepared to do, or too lazy or spoiled to do, i.e. get a job, care for her child and get a separate place to live.  It was too easy, Cindy made it too easy, to stay in the situation and agree with Cindy and then go out and do whatever she wanted to do.

Cindy knows what her responsibility is and she is trying to change after the fact what she did by showing up in every media outlet which will have her. She collects money for her appearances or whatever ludicrous reason they use to pay her while denying they are paying for her appearance.  She apparently has no shame in accepting money and using it for her entertainment, cruises, tattoos, etc. rather than paying the mortgage.  And she gets even more money by claiming a disability. 

  It has gotten to the point that she will do anything for attention, even growing out her hair to be like Casey's long hair even though she is far too old to do that and far too old to wear dresses which are too short for her but appropriate for a woman Casey's age.  Now that Casey has been put away, probably permanently, she is trying to become Casey.

I don't pretend to know or understand the Anthony family dynamics and will leave that to professionals who do.  However, I know what I see and it is not pretty.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 14, 2010, 11:38:57 AM
That's right BabyBear,it's not pretty at all.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 14, 2010, 11:43:26 AM
That's right BabyBear,it's not pretty at all.   ::MonkeyCool::
No it is not pretty at all  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Scatty on August 14, 2010, 11:51:44 AM
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/50221424/08122010-Nejame-Reply-to-Defense-Response-to-Motion-to-Quash

Sorry if this has already been posted....I haven't had time to read back yet.

As usual....it's  BRILLIANT!!!



Thanks Sunny. I've been searching for this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on August 14, 2010, 12:01:11 PM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ijvm.html
August 13, 2010
• Casey Anthony: Tale of the Tapes


<snipped>
Jean Casarez, how is the prosecution going to lay out all this forensic evidence?

CASAREZ: Well, by their witnesses but they`ve got a big challenge here because the duct tape that was across the mouth that ultraviolet light later showed that heart-shaped sticker, a photograph wasn`t taken. The tape was destroyed. And so the agent will have to testify as to her belief on it. But it hurts the prosecution case.

But the most challenging part for the defense is the brand of duct tape because it was Henkel duct tape. And that`s the same brand that was found on the gas can that was in the garage that Casey routinely used to put gas in her car.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, Jayne Weintraub, how is the defense going to get around that a rare brand of duct tape found in the Anthony home as well as at the crime scene?

WEINTRAUB: Because with all due respect to Jean Casarez, I don`t think it was a rare brand. As a matter of fact, to the contrary. I think it`s a very common brand. And they did find that it didn`t match the duct tape from the gas can in the shed of the backyard of the Anthonys.

And so I think that the defense is fine with it. It doesn`t prove anything. It has no evidentiary value to Casey Anthony. Yes, there was duct tape but let`s remember there`s no fingerprint evidence on the duct tape. There was no serology on the duct tape.

And similar -- similar evidence of duct tape, because there was duct tape, doesn`t get it into evidence. It has to be the same to connect it to Casey Anthony.


JW is an idiot.  :smt075 :smt062 :smt097




Agree Jane WineCrap is an idiot......she doesn't do her research before spewing bs from her annoying pie hole.

Did you hear her talking about Kronk?......saying he's sick for "relieving" himself right behind an elementary school.
FIRST of all Miss WineCrap, the school is on the opposite side of where Caylee was found. Second of all, Kronk was ASSIGNED to that area by his employer.
I could go on and on proving WineCrap doesn't know what she's talking about, but I don't have time.

As far as LP, he is still floating his ridiculous theory about Kronk and his girlfriend who works at the jail, yada yada yada.....it's BS!! IMO
He just can't accept the fact that he was wrong, he couldn't get Casey to spill the truth, and Caylee was at Jay Blanchard Park, in the water. Get over yourself LP!

Don't you think IF someone at the jail overheard a conversation between Jose Bozo and Skanky, about where she put Caylee, Bozo would have been all over that like white on rice?? Uhhh, yea.....cause the moron has no defense, and had that occurred, any evidence from the crime scene could very well be thrown out!

LP just tries to make the puzzle pieces fit into his theory, whatever theory he's throwing out this week. He needs to stick to Bounty Hunting.

JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 14, 2010, 12:21:31 PM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ijvm.html
August 13, 2010
• Casey Anthony: Tale of the Tapes


<snipped>
Jean Casarez, how is the prosecution going to lay out all this forensic evidence?

CASAREZ: Well, by their witnesses but they`ve got a big challenge here because the duct tape that was across the mouth that ultraviolet light later showed that heart-shaped sticker, a photograph wasn`t taken. The tape was destroyed. And so the agent will have to testify as to her belief on it. But it hurts the prosecution case.

But the most challenging part for the defense is the brand of duct tape because it was Henkel duct tape. And that`s the same brand that was found on the gas can that was in the garage that Casey routinely used to put gas in her car.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, Jayne Weintraub, how is the defense going to get around that a rare brand of duct tape found in the Anthony home as well as at the crime scene?

WEINTRAUB: Because with all due respect to Jean Casarez, I don`t think it was a rare brand. As a matter of fact, to the contrary. I think it`s a very common brand. And they did find that it didn`t match the duct tape from the gas can in the shed of the backyard of the Anthonys.

And so I think that the defense is fine with it. It doesn`t prove anything. It has no evidentiary value to Casey Anthony. Yes, there was duct tape but let`s remember there`s no fingerprint evidence on the duct tape. There was no serology on the duct tape.

And similar -- similar evidence of duct tape, because there was duct tape, doesn`t get it into evidence. It has to be the same to connect it to Casey Anthony.


JW is an idiot.  :smt075 :smt062 :smt097




Agree Jane WineCrap is an idiot......she doesn't do her research before spewing bs from her annoying pie hole.

Did you hear her talking about Kronk?......saying he's sick for "relieving" himself right behind an elementary school.
FIRST of all Miss WineCrap, the school is on the opposite side of where Caylee was found. Second of all, Kronk was ASSIGNED to that area by his employer.
I could go on and on proving WineCrap doesn't know what she's talking about, but I don't have time.

As far as LP, he is still floating his ridiculous theory about Kronk and his girlfriend who works at the jail, yada yada yada.....it's BS!! IMO
He just can't accept the fact that he was wrong, he couldn't get Casey to spill the truth, and Caylee was at Jay Blanchard Park, in the water. Get over yourself LP!

Don't you think IF someone at the jail overheard a conversation between Jose Bozo and Skanky, about where she put Caylee, Bozo would have been all over that like white on rice?? Uhhh, yea.....cause the moron has no defense, and had that occurred, any evidence from the crime scene could very well be thrown out!

LP just tries to make the puzzle pieces fit into his theory, whatever theory he's throwing out this week. He needs to stick to Bounty Hunting.

JMO



seem
I know how you feel! I was so annoyed the minute those two opened their mouth. I dont understnad why she has padilla (fame seeker) on the show he isnt a professional he is a bounty keeper  bigg difference than her other panel guests. I wanted to  call the show and tell them just exactly what you just said! how  sickening  it was to have to listen to them spew  crap out of their pie holes.!! I happen  to think that the prosecution has a good case. I have seen people convicted on less but than maybe I watch to much crime t.v! but realy. people are getting tired of  of the anthonys and they seem to be making worse themselves not as confident saying stupid stuff that makes virtualy  no sense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 14, 2010, 12:42:26 PM
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/50221424/08122010-Nejame-Reply-to-Defense-Response-to-Motion-to-Quash

Sorry if this has already been posted....I haven't had time to read back yet.

As usual....it's  BRILLIANT!!!



I love it you go mark he cracks me up!! he told it like it is! I especialy loved the part of the unseasoned attorney   didnt offer her a chance to do a plea deal like any seasoned attorney would do.

Thanks Sunny. I've been searching for this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 14, 2010, 12:49:39 PM
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/50221424/08122010-Nejame-Reply-to-Defense-Response-to-Motion-to-Quash

Sorry if this has already been posted....I haven't had time to read back yet.

As usual....it's  BRILLIANT!!!



Yes-an exquisitely crafted instrument!!!!!!!    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 14, 2010, 12:50:12 PM
Good morning Monkeys-----

A TRAMAUTIC EVENT?  I think that likely if your mother tries to choke you with her hands around your neck, it would be a little bit traumatic.  While they are all trying to back away from their original statements, of course that happened. Lee told LE about it before he knew what the Anthony program was.

I don't think even Cindy knew what the program was before the third 911 call where she blew the whole thing with the "Dead body" statement.

It is also my firm opinion that on June 24, 2008, George Anthony did indeed look inside the trunk and he saw Caylee's body, decomposing there with Casey having driven around for days smelling the results of her conduct.
I believe that George helped her place Caylee's little body in garbage bags and that he, himself, threw her into the woods on that day. 

Never having been in the position of having a family member jailed for any reason or, to the best of my knowledge, having an SO in the family, I can understand those who have experienced any of the things which occurred in the Anthony family being of two minds how they would deal with Casey.  I hope, and I know it's easy for me to say, that I would say to my daughter that I loved her and would always support her, but she would have to face the consequences of her actions.

But George and Cindy's actions have gone a long way from supporting their daughter.  They have, IMO, interferred in the investigation, tampered with evidence, lied to LE and myriad other transgressions for which I believe, they will never face justice.

I don't think Cindy ever understood where she ended and Casey began.  It's as if they were one organism, like an amoeba, trying to divide into two organisms, but never quite achieving it.  They are still joined together even though Casey is in jail. Casey might have wanted to divide from Cindy, but to do so meant taking some actions which she was not prepared to do, or too lazy or spoiled to do, i.e. get a job, care for her child and get a separate place to live.  It was too easy, Cindy made it too easy, to stay in the situation and agree with Cindy and then go out and do whatever she wanted to do.

Cindy knows what her responsibility is and she is trying to change after the fact what she did by showing up in every media outlet which will have her. She collects money for her appearances or whatever ludicrous reason they use to pay her while denying they are paying for her appearance.  She apparently has no shame in accepting money and using it for her entertainment, cruises, tattoos, etc. rather than paying the mortgage.  And she gets even more money by claiming a disability. 

  It has gotten to the point that she will do anything for attention, even growing out her hair to be like Casey's long hair even though she is far too old to do that and far too old to wear dresses which are too short for her but appropriate for a woman Casey's age.  Now that Casey has been put away, probably permanently, she is trying to become Casey.

I don't pretend to know or understand the Anthony family dynamics and will leave that to professionals who do.  However, I know what I see and it is not pretty.


Baby bear
I  am with you on the fact that cindy is growing her hair to copy casey! I noticed her blue top she had on when they interviewed her in  her home was too young for her age as well as the outfit she wore on t.v. She was wearing heels which is a first. Its like even her mannerisms were different. Especialy when she was walking into caylees room she was acting feminent   and younger. I think not cindy your an old hag the hair do isnt fitting to you as well as the dress with her tummy portrusing and her chichis hanging low.


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Post by: Northern Rose on August 14, 2010, 12:50:22 PM
Cindy Anthony: Casey is a victim

ORLANDO -- 
For the second day in a row, George and Cindy Anthony made a national television appearance Saturday.
     
The two were back on NBC's Today Show to talk about the murder of their grandaughter and Casey's upcoming murder trial.

The Anthony's once again professed their love for their daughter, with Cindy saying she firmly believes Casey is a victim in this whole thing as well.
     
Caylee Anthony would have turned 5 this past week.
     
Cindy Anthony says even though so much time has passed, they're no closer to knowing what really happened to their granddaughter.

"We're not.  It's just been so long and there’s still evidence that needs to be found,” Cindy Anthony said.  “There's still no connection to Caylee’s remains to Casey or anybody else, and that's what's very difficult."

Casey's murder trial is expected to start next year.

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/137220/Cindy-Anthony:-Casey-is-a-victim


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Post by: loca on August 14, 2010, 12:56:15 PM
from BOZO's facebook

Jose Baez:  I missed it. (Meteor Shower)  I am out of town on a Forensic Science conference, all work no play. I have got to stop and smell the roses.
10 hours ago ·

I wonder if he will submit the charges for this little adventure to JAC????
And since when did this azz become a forensic scientist?

I cant help but notice that baez has not the way with wording as nejame. It is ovious even his own wording. does not even come across as someone in his profession. gotta love mark he is the coolest. dynamite comes in small packages.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 14, 2010, 12:58:54 PM
watched part of the interview from the link that Trimm provided..could not finish watching it!
Cindy looks awful with that hair..again, Casey grows her hair long, Cindy grows her hair out! trying to still be that BFF to her daughter and emulate her..

why isn't there a gag order on these 2? why are they allowed to go on tv and keep proclaiming Casey's innocence and talking about this case??? why is their attorney allowing this when everything that they say can come back to bite them...not that I care..hope it does happen to them..

cookie
maybe because cindy p** whips all the men in her life and he is just as easy to control as the others.  lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 14, 2010, 12:59:32 PM
watched part of the interview from the link that Trimm provided..could not finish watching it!
Cindy looks awful with that hair..again, Casey grows her hair long, Cindy grows her hair out! trying to still be that BFF to her daughter and emulate her..

why isn't there a gag order on these 2? why are they allowed to go on tv and keep proclaiming Casey's innocence and talking about this case??? why is their attorney allowing this when everything that they say can come back to bite them...not that I care..hope it does happen to them..


oops meant pus*** whipped! lol

cookie
maybe because cindy p** whips all the men in her life and he is just as easy to control as the others.  lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 14, 2010, 01:54:41 PM
Cindy Anthony: Casey is a victim

ORLANDO -- 
For the second day in a row, George and Cindy Anthony made a national television appearance Saturday.
     
The two were back on NBC's Today Show to talk about the murder of their grandaughter and Casey's upcoming murder trial.

The Anthony's once again professed their love for their daughter, with Cindy saying she firmly believes Casey is a victim in this whole thing as well.
     
Caylee Anthony would have turned 5 this past week.
     
Cindy Anthony says even though so much time has passed, they're no closer to knowing what really happened to their granddaughter.

"We're not.  It's just been so long and there’s still evidence that needs to be found,” Cindy Anthony said.  “There's still no connection to Caylee’s remains to Casey or anybody else, and that's what's very difficult."

Casey's murder trial is expected to start next year.

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/137220/Cindy-Anthony:-Casey-is-a-victim
And what more evidence would you like to be found Cindy? Zenaida living in another country with Caylee? Your granddaughter was murdered, your daughter is rotting in a jail cell, and you two dimwits are again talking to the media.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: jjayinthemorning on August 14, 2010, 03:23:33 PM
I'm not buying that George and Casey briefly spoke when she came home with the stolen gas cans. I think that's when George probably thought he would have some private molestation time with Casey but no, Casey was not herself because she had just come home for some laundry bags to bag up the baby she had made with daddy. That would inspire me to get a tattoo and disown my family, a dad that always wanted to be intimate with me and knowing the child was out of that sickness.

The trauma that Cindy is referring to is when George went too far and it resulted in Casey being preggers. She probably doesn't know the details yet, but it will be out soon. I agree, Casey was traumatized. And no one in the family is taking responsibility so we have this mess.

Sure hope the trial is televised!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 14, 2010, 03:27:07 PM
Cindy Anthony: Casey is a victim

ORLANDO -- 
For the second day in a row, George and Cindy Anthony made a national television appearance Saturday.
     
The two were back on NBC's Today Show to talk about the murder of their grandaughter and Casey's upcoming murder trial.

The Anthony's once again professed their love for their daughter, with Cindy saying she firmly believes Casey is a victim in this whole thing as well.
     
Caylee Anthony would have turned 5 this past week.
     
Cindy Anthony says even though so much time has passed, they're no closer to knowing what really happened to their granddaughter.

"We're not.  It's just been so long and there’s still evidence that needs to be found,” Cindy Anthony said.  “There's still no connection to Caylee’s remains to Casey or anybody else, and that's what's very difficult."

Casey's murder trial is expected to start next year.

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/137220/Cindy-Anthony:-Casey-is-a-victim
And what more evidence would you like to be found Cindy? Zenaida living in another country with Caylee? Your granddaughter was murdered, your daughter is rotting in a jail cell, and you two dimwits are again talking to the media.

Yes Rose
I agree and furthermore  why  didnt   MSNBC ask some serious questions? ! why in hell! are being coddled and not being  asked some  real serious questions. I am also of the impression that JMV coddles baez in the same way. sickening !
I was going thru old videos from youtube on the case last night, and came upon  an old  video from the jail  in which  baez was  repremmended for touching!  casey I mean! like he was almost in her face.

 I had to giggle when I read the  response from nejame to the defense. So eloquently put and a total bullseye lol he said any  seasoned attorney would of had her plea early on lol.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 14, 2010, 03:34:08 PM
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/8084345/21402325
Video:George and Cindy Anthony: Today Show 8/14/10


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 14, 2010, 03:38:44 PM
http://mhutch.blogspot.com/2010/08/oh-what-tangled-web-we-weave-casey.html
Saturday, August 14, 2010
Oh What A Tangled Web We Weave (Casey Anthony)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 14, 2010, 03:59:17 PM
watched part of the interview from the link that Trimm provided..could not finish watching it!
Cindy looks awful with that hair..again, Casey grows her hair long, Cindy grows her hair out! trying to still be that BFF to her daughter and emulate her..

why isn't there a gag order on these 2? why are they allowed to go on tv and keep proclaiming Casey's innocence and talking about this case??? why is their attorney allowing this when everything that they say can come back to bite them...not that I care..hope it does happen to them..


oops meant pus*** whipped! lol

cookie
maybe because cindy p** whips all the men in her life and he is just as easy to control as the others.  lol

written from someone else but I wanted to post it because it would make sense! it being so like cindys thinking process. below

 – if Casey gets executed, Cindy will just
insist it never happened, that in fact she’s alive and will be home soon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 14, 2010, 05:47:56 PM
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/8084345/21402325
Video:George and Cindy Anthony: Today Show 8/14/10

Thanks Trimm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 14, 2010, 06:44:24 PM
I nearly fell off my chair when sin-cin said Kc was also a victim....but now that my blood pressure has gone back to normal and I was able to think about something beside wanting to slap the chit outta that biotch....I hope she says that over and over...and I hope she says it in court....then when the jury sees a 3-D presentation of Caylee with 3 pieces of duct tape  over her mouth and nose, and then the autopsy pictures of her BONES, the little shirt and the letter BIG TROUBLE etc., then the pictures of the swamp where she was left to rot....... and  then see the pictures of Kc out partying...hearing the story of her playing house at Tony's........you and georgieboy are gonna be the states best witnesses..  KEEP TALKING PLEASE !!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on August 14, 2010, 08:16:11 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

Friday, August 13, 2010
Did George Anthony Molest Casey Anthony


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 14, 2010, 08:35:57 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

Friday, August 13, 2010
Did George Anthony Molest Casey Anthony

this is interesting.

Guys this is a link to the “Eyes for lies”, if you would like to vote for the video of Cindy to be analyzed… we will see if it will be chosen. Thanks a lot!!!

http://eyesforlies.uservoice.com/forums/14727-topic-suggestions/suggestions/987531-cindy-anthony-on-today-show?ref=title


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: jjayinthemorning on August 14, 2010, 08:59:43 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

Friday, August 13, 2010
Did George Anthony Molest Casey Anthony
That's interesting. Yes George molested Casey, but what does that mean? Boob grab? Penetration? Intercourse? How often? At what age did it start? Who has Casey told? So many questions!
And why was Lee eliminated as the father of Caylee??????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on August 14, 2010, 09:17:59 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

Friday, August 13, 2010
Did George Anthony Molest Casey Anthony
That's interesting. Yes George molested Casey, but what does that mean? Boob grab? Penetration? Intercourse? How often? At what age did it start? Who has Casey told? So many questions!
And why was Lee eliminated as the father of Caylee??????

DNA testing by FBI labs eliminated both Lee and George as Caylee's bio daddy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 14, 2010, 10:12:21 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

Friday, August 13, 2010
Did George Anthony Molest Casey Anthony
That's interesting. Yes George molested Casey, but what does that mean? Boob grab? Penetration? Intercourse? How often? At what age did it start? Who has Casey told? So many questions!
And why was Lee eliminated as the father of Caylee??????

DNA testing by FBI labs eliminated both Lee and George as Caylee's bio daddy.

Please give me the link to that FBI report. I have seen it said on a blog where they showed the profile but to this day I have not been able to find the FBI report showing George's DNA profile. I have searched and searched, to no avail.

The blogger who is usually very accurate received that information from "someone else", so until I see the actual report, I will have to stand with my previous assumption that George's has not been released yet and that is some more of the misinformation the Anthony family has put out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 14, 2010, 10:40:25 PM
from BOZO's facebook

Jose Baez:  I missed it. (Meteor Shower)  I am out of town on a Forensic Science conference, all work no play. I have got to stop and smell the roses.
10 hours ago ·

I wonder if he will submit the charges for this little adventure to JAC????
And since when did this azz become a forensic scientist?

What is he paying all these "other" forensic scientist experts with taxpayer's money for if he is going to be the expert? 

Hello, Florida taxpayers, this will get billed to you too. (opps, that includes me, what am I thinking by not raising cain over this myself?)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 14, 2010, 10:50:56 PM
Cindy Anthony: Casey is a victim

ORLANDO -- 
For the second day in a row, George and Cindy Anthony made a national television appearance Saturday.
     
The two were back on NBC's Today Show to talk about the murder of their grandaughter and Casey's upcoming murder trial.

The Anthony's once again professed their love for their daughter, with Cindy saying she firmly believes Casey is a victim in this whole thing as well.
     
Caylee Anthony would have turned 5 this past week.
     
Cindy Anthony says even though so much time has passed, they're no closer to knowing what really happened to their granddaughter.

"We're not.  It's just been so long and there’s still evidence that needs to be found,” Cindy Anthony said.  “There's still no connection to Caylee’s remains to Casey or anybody else, and that's what's very difficult."

Casey's murder trial is expected to start next year.

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/137220/Cindy-Anthony:-Casey-is-a-victim
And what more evidence would you like to be found Cindy? Zenaida living in another country with Caylee? Your granddaughter was murdered, your daughter is rotting in a jail cell, and you two dimwits are again talking to the media.

NO evidence to connect KC............KC is not that smart............this leads me back to the 24th when George & KC were at the house and the "script" about the trunk.  I have always wondered if George found the body that day because the story was way too rehearsed to ring true.

Who would know how to wipe down everything to prevent finger prints from being anywhere? George.
It is impossible for there not to be fingerprints on a car trunk, or anywhere in a trunk of a car. I can see the prints being degraded from the garbage bags due to the time element but there is no way there could be no prints anywhere in that trunk unless it had been "sanitized" by someone who KNEW how to do it. Think about it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 14, 2010, 11:20:46 PM
Second billing for investigation of George by BOZO

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/47666164/Casey-Anthony-George-Anthony-investigated-2


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 14, 2010, 11:34:52 PM
A poster said KC could never be prosecuted and/or found guilty on aggravating circumstances.

I suggest they read this to see how this will be proven.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/39005318/Casey-Anthony--Notice-of-AGGRAVATING-CIRCUMSTANCES


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 15, 2010, 12:48:58 AM
A poster said KC could never be prosecuted and/or found guilty on aggravating circumstances.

I suggest they read this to see how this will be proven.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/39005318/Casey-Anthony--Notice-of-AGGRAVATING-CIRCUMSTANCES

I believe you are referring to one of my posts from yesterday.  I was relaying what Winetraub was saying on JVM yesterday. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 15, 2010, 01:07:30 AM
Second billing for investigation of George by BOZO

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/47666164/Casey-Anthony-George-Anthony-investigated-2

Who is paying for all these frivulous charges? the defense is spending time and energy on trying to throw george under the bus that they arent being wise stewards of the moneys that the JAC gives. I wonder what judge perry will think of all this stupidity and when will it end grrrrrerfff


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 15, 2010, 01:32:54 AM
Geraldo did a piece tonight on Mother's in denial and had Dina Lohan next to Rosebud in a split screen  I caught the tail end of what he was saying.  He said the prosecution should never have put the death penalty on the table.  One of his talking heads reminded him that if Casey did the research about neck breaking etc then it was premeditated and the DP belongs on the table.  Geraldo then said something about Casey being a product of her upbringing.  Wonder if Bobo had any input to the piece tonight?  I would have loved to have seen it from the beginning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 15, 2010, 06:03:50 AM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

Friday, August 13, 2010
Did George Anthony Molest Casey Anthony
this is interesting.

Guys this is a link to the “Eyes for lies”, if you would like to vote for the video of Cindy to be analyzed… we will see if it will be chosen. Thanks a lot!!!

http://eyesforlies.uservoice.com/forums/14727-topic-suggestions/suggestions/987531-cindy-anthony-on-today-show?ref=title
Very early in this case, "Eyes for Lies" announced that she did not detect any deception in Cindy....

 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 15, 2010, 06:36:59 AM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/
Friday, August 13, 2010
Did George Anthony Molest Casey Anthony
That's interesting. Yes George molested Casey, but what does that mean? Boob grab? Penetration? Intercourse? How often? At what age did it start? Who has Casey told? So many questions!
And why was Lee eliminated as the father of Caylee??????
DNA testing by FBI labs eliminated both Lee and George as Caylee's bio daddy.
Please give me the link to that FBI report. I have seen it said on a blog where they showed the profile but to this day I have not been able to find the FBI report showing George's DNA profile. I have searched and searched, to no avail.

The blogger who is usually very accurate received that information from "someone else", so until I see the actual report, I will have to stand with my previous assumption that George's has not been released yet and that is some more of the misinformation the Anthony family has put out.
I'm not sure if this is what you meant by "the actual report," Turbo, but it was all that I could find. 

FBI DNA test results for George and Lee are contained in this .pdf file of the discovery released Sept. 29, 2009: 
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147519/detail.html
The chart is on Page 87.
George is K7-1, and Lee is K9-1.

FBI DNA test results for Caylee and Casey are contained in this .pdf file of the discovery released Oct. 9, 2009:
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html
The chart is on Page 56.
Caylee is Q18-1, and Casey is K1-1.


And for those who have not seen the blog post Turbo referenced, here is where Valhall of Hinky Meter expanded upon the conclusions her friend/reader Brenda had submitted.  Val put all the DNA info on a spreadsheet chart in order to visually compare how everyone's alleles line up:
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2009/10/31/about-caylees-parentage/

IF this data is legitimate, then it would appear that George could not be Caylee's father, nor could Lee, nor Jesse.  And btw, despite the speculation I read somewhere (I think it was here at SM) about George's DNA ruling him out as Casey's father, it actually appears from the FBI data that George and Cindy both match up as the parents of both Lee and Casey.

Bottom line, according to this data, Cindy and George are the parents of Lee and Casey.  Casey is the mother of Caylee.  Caylee's father is NOT George, Lee, or Jesse.  Caylee's father is still unknown.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 15, 2010, 06:51:05 AM
Geraldo did a piece tonight on Mother's in denial and had Dina Lohan next to Rosebud in a split screen  I caught the tail end of what he was saying.  He said the prosecution should never have put the death penalty on the table.  One of his talking heads reminded him that if Casey did the research about neck breaking etc then it was premeditated and the DP belongs on the table.  Geraldo then said something about Casey being a product of her upbringing.  Wonder if Bobo had any input to the piece tonight?  I would have loved to have seen it from the beginning.
Two mothers in denial, appearing on the Today Show. 

Two daughters who like to party...
...and who are known for denying their wrongdoings...
...and who are famous for their 'mistruths'...
...and who are getting bad press in the national news media...
...and who each bear a tattoo that reads "Bella Vita..."

Links to photos of their tattoos:     Lindsay's tattoo (http://www.piercingsntattoos.com/?p=103)      Casey's tattoo (http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/casey-anthony-case-read-report-regarding-photos-taken-jail-of-bella-vita-tattoo)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 15, 2010, 06:59:38 AM
Eyes for Lies weighed in on Cindy's level of truthfulness back in July of 2008, shortly after the case broke.  Here is an excerpt of what she had to say:

Quote
http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2008/07/grandmother-cindy-anthony.html

"Many of you believe she is being dishonest and not genuine.

I have to disagree. When I watch Cindy speak in this video, she is genuine and true."

More recently, this was her assessment after watching their Good Morning America appearance a couple of months back:

Quote
http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2010/06/george-and-cindy-anthony-on-gma-today.html

"So many people believe the Anthonys are lying, and I couldn't disagree more."

Her expert opinion is that they are both just in denial.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 15, 2010, 07:32:16 AM
http://humbleopinionforum.net/2010/08/14/casey-anthony-week-roundup-8-14-august-2010/
Written on 14 August 2010 at 17:00 by Humbleopinion aka FLAB
Casey Anthony week roundup 8-14 August 2010
Filed under Casey Anthony 42 comments



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 15, 2010, 07:47:50 AM
Geraldo did a piece tonight on Mother's in denial and had Dina Lohan next to Rosebud in a split screen  I caught the tail end of what he was saying.  He said the prosecution should never have put the death penalty on the table.  One of his talking heads reminded him that if Casey did the research about neck breaking etc then it was premeditated and the DP belongs on the table.  Geraldo then said something about Casey being a product of her upbringing.  Wonder if Bobo had any input to the piece tonight?  I would have loved to have seen it from the beginning.

Hi NorthernRose! 

It was so very brief and the only thing I came away with from it is that Geraldo's message to his audience was that CinCin was in denial and also that he was dismissive of the death penalty.

Bottom line:  Defending CinCin and attacking the prosecution.   Same old, same old.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 15, 2010, 08:09:37 AM
Thanks for all of the links!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: jjayinthemorning on August 15, 2010, 08:19:08 AM
NO evidence to connect KC............KC is not that smart............this leads me back to the 24th when George & KC were at the house and the "script" about the trunk.  I have always wondered if George found the body that day because the story was way too rehearsed to ring true.

Who would know how to wipe down everything to prevent finger prints from being anywhere? George.
It is impossible for there not to be fingerprints on a car trunk, or anywhere in a trunk of a car. I can see the prints being degraded from the garbage bags due to the time element but there is no way there could be no prints anywhere in that trunk unless it had been "sanitized" by someone who KNEW how to do it. Think about it.
Turbo, you and I are on the same page! There is something fishy about that gas-can return day. No witnesses, contrived story. George used the same method to get to Casey that mom tried by calling the police about stolen gas cans... and it worked for him. How did she know to meet up with him? Maybe he threatened to out their little affair to Cindy, or Tony?
And yes, the smell would have been apparent when the trunk was open dispite the gasoline odor. And Casey had planned to burn the body with gasoline by the airport and George probably stopped her because the body would be discovered. And is this the point that Casey went to Sawgrass to dream up a story?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: jjayinthemorning on August 15, 2010, 08:28:15 AM
IF this data is legitimate, then it would appear that George could not be Caylee's father, nor could Lee, nor Jesse.  
From what I understand, George never submitted a DNA sample, so it is possible that Hinkey is inaccurate. LE may have attained DNA that they believe belongs to George.
The reason for this is because George was never a suspect. The timing is critical on this because they wanted him to feel that freedom and mess up and maybe offer more clues in his clumsiness. Now George is close to being charged for something... and then the DNA will be asked for and analyzed. George doesn't want that. He's very coy since he knows the system.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: jjayinthemorning on August 15, 2010, 08:33:49 AM
Geraldo did a piece tonight on Mother's in denial and had Dina Lohan next to Rosebud in a split screen  I caught the tail end of what he was saying.  He said the prosecution should never have put the death penalty on the table.  One of his talking heads reminded him that if Casey did the research about neck breaking etc then it was premeditated and the DP belongs on the table.  Geraldo then said something about Casey being a product of her upbringing.  Wonder if Bobo had any input to the piece tonight?  I would have loved to have seen it from the beginning.
Gotta love Geraldo. He knows how to build drama. He also has connections like Barbara Walters and digs into stories.
I agree, Casey is the product of psychological manipulation, I would add incest. So many pregnant teens are forced to keep the baby by their parents, and laws keep adding complications to abortion. Thank goodness there is a new FDA approved morning after pill that works 5 days after the act. It's a shame that men don't take more responsibility for spreading their seeds. Women are usually the responsible ones and Casey did have to deal with the circumstances of lack of coping skills not taught by her parents.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 15, 2010, 10:11:09 AM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/
Friday, August 13, 2010
Did George Anthony Molest Casey Anthony
That's interesting. Yes George molested Casey, but what does that mean? Boob grab? Penetration? Intercourse? How often? At what age did it start? Who has Casey told? So many questions!
And why was Lee eliminated as the father of Caylee??????
DNA testing by FBI labs eliminated both Lee and George as Caylee's bio daddy.
Please give me the link to that FBI report. I have seen it said on a blog where they showed the profile but to this day I have not been able to find the FBI report showing George's DNA profile. I have searched and searched, to no avail.

The blogger who is usually very accurate received that information from "someone else", so until I see the actual report, I will have to stand with my previous assumption that George's has not been released yet and that is some more of the misinformation the Anthony family has put out.
I'm not sure if this is what you meant by "the actual report," Turbo, but it was all that I could find. 

FBI DNA test results for George and Lee are contained in this .pdf file of the discovery released Sept. 29, 2009: 
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147519/detail.html
The chart is on Page 87.
George is K7-1, and Lee is K9-1.

FBI DNA test results for Caylee and Casey are contained in this .pdf file of the discovery released Oct. 9, 2009:
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html
The chart is on Page 56.
Caylee is Q18-1, and Casey is K1-1.


And for those who have not seen the blog post Turbo referenced, here is where Valhall of Hinky Meter expanded upon the conclusions her friend/reader Brenda had submitted.  Val put all the DNA info on a spreadsheet chart in order to visually compare how everyone's alleles line up:
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2009/10/31/about-caylees-parentage/

IF this data is legitimate, then it would appear that George could not be Caylee's father, nor could Lee, nor Jesse.  And btw, despite the speculation I read somewhere (I think it was here at SM) about George's DNA ruling him out as Casey's father, it actually appears from the FBI data that George and Cindy both match up as the parents of both Lee and Casey.

Bottom line, according to this data, Cindy and George are the parents of Lee and Casey.  Casey is the mother of Caylee.  Caylee's father is NOT George, Lee, or Jesse.  Caylee's father is still unknown.

I am having trouble getting this to download this morning as it is 662 pages but will get it eventually. I am going to print off those pages which refer to the DNA and take them first of the week to the University of Tennessee DNA specialist and also send them to my friend who is a Ph.D. in BioForensics in Michigan and see what their take is on this. I can't remember, but for some reason, I did not think that George's was in this release, and I have read it many times.  If it is, we will get to the truth in this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 15, 2010, 10:16:05 AM
IF this data is legitimate, then it would appear that George could not be Caylee's father, nor could Lee, nor Jesse.   
From what I understand, George never submitted a DNA sample, so it is possible that Hinkey is inaccurate. LE may have attained DNA that they believe belongs to George.
The reason for this is because George was never a suspect. The timing is critical on this because they wanted him to feel that freedom and mess up and maybe offer more clues in his clumsiness. Now George is close to being charged for something... and then the DNA will be asked for and analyzed. George doesn't want that. He's very coy since he knows the system.



That was my understanding also. I am very curious now if that was his actual DNA or it was a test sample they used. I still can't find where it says it is George Anthonys. When I took the first on which was on Hinky meter to my friend at UT, they said if that was George's then he was not Casey's father either, so my instinct now is you are right and it was not George's to begin with.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 15, 2010, 10:25:34 AM
Eyes for Lies weighed in on Cindy's level of truthfulness back in July of 2008, shortly after the case broke.  Here is an excerpt of what she had to say:

Quote
http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2008/07/grandmother-cindy-anthony.html

"Many of you believe she is being dishonest and not genuine.

I have to disagree. When I watch Cindy speak in this video, she is genuine and true."

More recently, this was her assessment after watching their Good Morning America appearance a couple of months back:

Quote
http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2010/06/george-and-cindy-anthony-on-gma-today.html

"So many people believe the Anthonys are lying, and I couldn't disagree more."

Her expert opinion is that they are both just in denial.   ::MonkeyCool::

No expert is 100% accurate and this is one she missed. Denial does NOT lie and destroy evidence because one is denial would see no reason to -


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Babybear on August 15, 2010, 11:09:17 AM
NO evidence to connect KC............KC is not that smart............this leads me back to the 24th when George & KC were at the house and the "script" about the trunk.  I have always wondered if George found the body that day because the story was way too rehearsed to ring true.

Who would know how to wipe down everything to prevent finger prints from being anywhere? George.
It is impossible for there not to be fingerprints on a car trunk, or anywhere in a trunk of a car. I can see the prints being degraded from the garbage bags due to the time element but there is no way there could be no prints anywhere in that trunk unless it had been "sanitized" by someone who KNEW how to do it. Think about it.
Turbo, you and I are on the same page! There is something fishy about that gas-can return day. No witnesses, contrived story. George used the same method to get to Casey that mom tried by calling the police about stolen gas cans... and it worked for him. How did she know to meet up with him? Maybe he threatened to out their little affair to Cindy, or Tony?
And yes, the smell would have been apparent when the trunk was open dispite the gasoline odor. And Casey had planned to burn the body with gasoline by the airport and George probably stopped her because the body would be discovered. And is this the point that Casey went to Sawgrass to dream up a story?

Turbo and JJay (Love your hair!)  Early on, when Greta was talking about this case and during an interview with George and Cindy, George said that when he saw Casey on June 24  he told her he wanted the chocks to rotate Cindy's tires.  She cursed at him and  he brushed by her and opened the trunk. I don't know what George was going to say, but Cindy said, "And there were the cans."  It seems to me that George said he had a key to the trunk, but I'm kind of hazey on that. Not hazey on the rest of it.

I believe that in addition to finding the gas cans, he found a dead Caylee and helped place her body in the woods.  IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 15, 2010, 11:15:01 AM
If George found a dead Caylee in the trunk  ::MonkeyEek:: and obviously he wouldn't call the police, IF this happened you would think he would have found somewhere, a decent place to bury Caylee and not toss her where she was tossed. I can't stand George, frankly I think he is useless, but just can't picture a grandfather tossing his granddaughter like that  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Babybear on August 15, 2010, 11:24:57 AM
Eyes for Lies weighed in on Cindy's level of truthfulness back in July of 2008, shortly after the case broke.  Here is an excerpt of what she had to say:

Quote
http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2008/07/grandmother-cindy-anthony.html

"Many of you believe she is being dishonest and not genuine.

I have to disagree. When I watch Cindy speak in this video, she is genuine and true."

More recently, this was her assessment after watching their Good Morning America appearance a couple of months back:

Quote
http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2010/06/george-and-cindy-anthony-on-gma-today.html

"So many people believe the Anthonys are lying, and I couldn't disagree more."

Her expert opinion is that they are both just in denial.   ::MonkeyCool::

No expert is 100% accurate and this is one she missed. Denial does NOT lie and destroy evidence because one is denial would see no reason to -

I'm not a big believer in profilers, body language experts, etc. because it is often a matter of opinion--in fact, IMO, it is always a matter of opinion.  I remember a murder in, I think New Orleans, and it was suppose to be a white dude living with his mother, etc.  It turned out to be an African American with none of the characteristics claimed by the profiler. It's kind of voo-doo to me.  DNA? That's different.  Scientific.  Proven to be.  I don't know how it was determined that George's DNA went by the designation K-6 or whatever. If his name is definitely attacked to it by the FBI, then that's pretty definitive, IMO.  If not, and is just identified by a letter-number, It isn't.  Just another guess. 

And that guy who sent letter bombs to heads of corporations?  He wasn't found by a profiler although they claimed he was.  His brother turned him in.
I just a skeptic when it comes to profilers and language experts, pyschics, etc. but I'm skeptical about most things I read on the internet. I need a reliable, proven source such as the FBI Lab--not their profilers--Then I'm a believer.

No offense intended.  That's just my perspective on it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Babybear on August 15, 2010, 11:26:32 AM
Uh....George's name "ATTACHED" to it. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Monkey with Class on August 15, 2010, 12:03:18 PM
I agree about George NOT being ruled out.  Never thought he was.  I also have in memory the anguish he presented when in depositions with the other case.  He got very serious and i noted many changes within his demeanor.  He stated something like.....   I am not going there when asked to describe what he saw in the trunk that day.  He took a serious stand when they asked him to describe the last day he saw Caylee. From this... My opinion is that he saw Caylee in the trunk that morning.  Maybe he did not have anything to do with disposal in the woods.  However,  I think he told Casey to take care of the mess she created.  Did Lee assist?   All this will come out in trial.

Have a great Sunday!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 15, 2010, 12:08:39 PM
If George found a dead Caylee in the trunk  ::MonkeyEek:: and obviously he wouldn't call the police, IF this happened you would think he would have found somewhere, a decent place to bury Caylee and not toss her where she was tossed. I can't stand George, frankly I think he is useless, but just can't picture a grandfather tossing his granddaughter like that  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I think the "toss in the woods" was a temporary remedy to an immediate need. I think there was something which happened to make them need to get rid of the body fast. That was close, and not easily found. Then the rains came in so fast the body became covered in water and they could not retrieve it. I don't think it was ever the intended place, but became that because of the fast flooding.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 15, 2010, 12:21:09 PM

snipped......

FBI DNA test results for George and Lee are contained in this .pdf file of the discovery released Sept. 29, 2009:
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147519/detail.html
The chart is on Page 87.
George is K7-1, and Lee is K9-1.


And for those who have not seen the blog post Turbo referenced, here is where Valhall of Hinky Meter expanded upon the conclusions her friend/reader Brenda had submitted.  Val put all the DNA info on a spreadsheet chart in order to visually compare how everyone's alleles line up:
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2009/10/31/about-caylees-parentage/

IF this data is legitimate, then it would appear that George could not be Caylee's father, nor could Lee, nor Jesse.  And btw, despite the speculation I read somewhere (I think it was here at SM) about George's DNA ruling him out as Casey's father, it actually appears from the FBI data that George and Cindy both match up as the parents of both Lee and Casey.



The pdf will not download for the one you listed for George and Lee -(the KC one does) has anyone seen a different source for that one? I contacted the station and they said there was something not working for that one and they did not know if they would be fixing it or not.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: jjayinthemorning on August 15, 2010, 12:42:21 PM
I think the "toss in the woods" was a temporary remedy to an immediate need. I think there was something which happened to make them need to get rid of the body fast. That was close, and not easily found. Then the rains came in so fast the body became covered in water and they could not retrieve it. I don't think it was ever the intended place, but became that because of the fast flooding.
I'm with ya. Maybe hiding it from Cindy? Maybe a secret pact of secrets with George and Casey.
And then George played dumb when he picked up the car and there still was a smell!!!

I think George put a snake in the road because he patrolled the place and saw the meter readers hanging out there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 15, 2010, 01:36:08 PM
I don't know much, but IF it turns out that George is Caylee's father  ::MonkeyShocked:: not a jury in the world would give the death penalty to Casey, imo. I honestly don't think a jury will anyway, imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on August 15, 2010, 02:03:17 PM
Second billing for investigation of George by BOZO

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/47666164/Casey-Anthony-George-Anthony-investigated-2


What is this!!! Surely George's whole life was pretty much picked clean and open for general inspection before they paid this PI another $1000 for absolutely NOTHING we don't know already. I'm so glad I don't live in Florida cos I'd be writing to the powers that be everyday complaining about the waste of taxpayer dollars. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 15, 2010, 02:04:32 PM
And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on August 15, 2010, 02:18:31 PM
And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


From what I have seen and read about it George can simply not be the father, I'll eat the monkey branch I'm sitting on if he is... ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 15, 2010, 02:20:54 PM
And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


From what I have seen and read about it George can simply not be the father, I'll eat the monkey branch I'm sitting on if he is... ::MonkeyRoll::
I just pray he isn't is all I will say on the topic  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I don't understand any of the DNA stuff, and I could look at charts all day and it would make no sense to me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: mizjay on August 15, 2010, 02:32:04 PM
If George found a dead Caylee in the trunk  ::MonkeyEek:: and obviously he wouldn't call the police, IF this happened you would think he would have found somewhere, a decent place to bury Caylee and not toss her where she was tossed. I can't stand George, frankly I think he is useless, but just can't picture a grandfather tossing his granddaughter like that  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Norose~  me too.  I really don't believe wimpy George has it in him to be an active participant in tossing her.  I'm thinking that during the gas can/chock incident he may have seen the garbage bag with caylee in it, but only figured it out after the facts came to light. For a person who has a smidge of conscience that would put you in a guilt trip, especially if you didn't tell what you probably saw.  Of course this theory is based on him having any conscience!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 15, 2010, 02:35:43 PM
If George found a dead Caylee in the trunk  ::MonkeyEek:: and obviously he wouldn't call the police, IF this happened you would think he would have found somewhere, a decent place to bury Caylee and not toss her where she was tossed. I can't stand George, frankly I think he is useless, but just can't picture a grandfather tossing his granddaughter like that  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Norose~  me too.  I really don't believe wimpy George has it in him to be an active participant in tossing her.  I'm thinking that during the gas can/chock incident he may have seen the garbage bag with caylee in it, but only figured it out after the facts came to light. For a person who has a smidge of conscience that would put you in a guilt trip, especially if you didn't tell what you probably saw.  Of course this theory is based on him having any conscience!
I can't stand the man, but just don't see him being so vicious as to toss his granddaughter's body like that. But maybe he did  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 15, 2010, 03:17:58 PM
If George found a dead Caylee in the trunk  ::MonkeyEek:: and obviously he wouldn't call the police, IF this happened you would think he would have found somewhere, a decent place to bury Caylee and not toss her where she was tossed. I can't stand George, frankly I think he is useless, but just can't picture a grandfather tossing his granddaughter like that  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Norose~  me too.  I really don't believe wimpy George has it in him to be an active participant in tossing her.  I'm thinking that during the gas can/chock incident he may have seen the garbage bag with caylee in it, but only figured it out after the facts came to light. For a person who has a smidge of conscience that would put you in a guilt trip, especially if you didn't tell what you probably saw.  Of course this theory is based on him having any conscience!
I can't stand the man, but just don't see him being so vicious as to toss his granddaughter's body like that. But maybe he did  ::MonkeyNoNo::

We went through all this when some people were SURE Lee was Caylee's biodad....so it was proven beyond a doubt that Lee wasn't...so now it's George??  I refused to get into this conversation again...it's a lose/lose...you either believe the reports of you don't....I don't know diddlysquat about DNA reports....hope Turbo can get someone who really knows what they are doing to analyze the reports. Personally I think it's a bullcrap. I don't think Kc was abused by Lee or georgieboy. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 15, 2010, 03:19:57 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/
Friday, August 13, 2010
Did George Anthony Molest Casey Anthony
That's interesting. Yes George molested Casey, but what does that mean? Boob grab? Penetration? Intercourse? How often? At what age did it start? Who has Casey told? So many questions!
And why was Lee eliminated as the father of Caylee??????
DNA testing by FBI labs eliminated both Lee and George as Caylee's bio daddy.
Please give me the link to that FBI report. I have seen it said on a blog where they showed the profile but to this day I have not been able to find the FBI report showing George's DNA profile. I have searched and searched, to no avail.

The blogger who is usually very accurate received that information from "someone else", so until I see the actual report, I will have to stand with my previous assumption that George's has not been released yet and that is some more of the misinformation the Anthony family has put out.
I'm not sure if this is what you meant by "the actual report," Turbo, but it was all that I could find. 

FBI DNA test results for George and Lee are contained in this .pdf file of the discovery released Sept. 29, 2009: 
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147519/detail.html
The chart is on Page 87.
George is K7-1, and Lee is K9-1.

FBI DNA test results for Caylee and Casey are contained in this .pdf file of the discovery released Oct. 9, 2009:
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html
The chart is on Page 56.
Caylee is Q18-1, and Casey is K1-1.


And for those who have not seen the blog post Turbo referenced, here is where Valhall of Hinky Meter expanded upon the conclusions her friend/reader Brenda had submitted.  Val put all the DNA info on a spreadsheet chart in order to visually compare how everyone's alleles line up:
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2009/10/31/about-caylees-parentage/

IF this data is legitimate, then it would appear that George could not be Caylee's father, nor could Lee, nor Jesse.  And btw, despite the speculation I read somewhere (I think it was here at SM) about George's DNA ruling him out as Casey's father, it actually appears from the FBI data that George and Cindy both match up as the parents of both Lee and Casey.

Bottom line, according to this data, Cindy and George are the parents of Lee and Casey.  Casey is the mother of Caylee.  Caylee's father is NOT George, Lee, or Jesse.  Caylee's father is still unknown.

I am having trouble getting this to download this morning as it is 662 pages but will get it eventually. I am going to print off those pages which refer to the DNA and take them first of the week to the University of Tennessee DNA specialist and also send them to my friend who is a Ph.D. in BioForensics in Michigan and see what their take is on this. I can't remember, but for some reason, I did not think that George's was in this release, and I have read it many times.  If it is, we will get to the truth in this.

thanks Turbo....I will be interested in the results and the truth!!.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 15, 2010, 03:23:19 PM
I think the "toss in the woods" was a temporary remedy to an immediate need. I think there was something which happened to make them need to get rid of the body fast. That was close, and not easily found. Then the rains came in so fast the body became covered in water and they could not retrieve it. I don't think it was ever the intended place, but became that because of the fast flooding.
I'm with ya. Maybe hiding it from Cindy? Maybe a secret pact of secrets with George and Casey.
And then George played dumb when he picked up the car and there still was a smell!!!

I think George put a snake in the road because he patrolled the place and saw the meter readers hanging out there.

 ::MonkeyConfused::  surely you are saying this in jest???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 15, 2010, 03:24:17 PM
And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

me too..... ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 15, 2010, 03:26:50 PM
And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

me too..... ::rhino:: ::rhino::
I will fall off my computer chair, and call it quits  ::MonkeyNoNo::  Just am not ready for something like this.


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Post by: Babybear on August 15, 2010, 03:32:18 PM
I don't know much, but IF it turns out that George is Caylee's father  ::MonkeyShocked:: not a jury in the world would give the death penalty to Casey, imo. I honestly don't think a jury will anyway, imo.

Hi NR--I agree.  IMO Casey will not receive the death penalty.  I don't think she'll receive LWOP.  Life, maybe, with possibility of parole.  It depends on how many choices they have when they go to deliberate.  If manslaughter, it wouldn't surprise me.  I don't think attractive young women are ever sentenced to death. Ugly middle aged women, not young and pretty.  I know that a couple are on death row, but still alive.  I don't think it's right, but it is what it is.   


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Post by: Babybear on August 15, 2010, 03:35:09 PM
And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

me too..... ::rhino:: ::rhino::
I will fall off my computer chair, and call it quits  ::MonkeyNoNo::  Just am not ready for something like this.

Oh I don't think George is Caylee's father, I just haven't seen an FBI DNA report on him.  But I do think he could throw Caylee's little body in the woods.  After all, it appears that he and Cindy knew where she was for some time before Kronk found her.  They left her there. They are dispicable people.


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Post by: Babybear on August 15, 2010, 03:37:10 PM
And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

me too..... ::rhino:: ::rhino::

No, I don't think he's the father either.  Just haven't seen an official FBI report eliminating him.  I don't know who these people on the internet are or how much training, if any, they've had.  Just words on a screen until something official is released.


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Post by: tupelohoney on August 15, 2010, 03:38:58 PM
If George found a dead Caylee in the trunk  ::MonkeyEek:: and obviously he wouldn't call the police, IF this happened you would think he would have found somewhere, a decent place to bury Caylee and not toss her where she was tossed. I can't stand George, frankly I think he is useless, but just can't picture a grandfather tossing his granddaughter like that  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Norose~  me too.  I really don't believe wimpy George has it in him to be an active participant in tossing her.  I'm thinking that during the gas can/chock incident he may have seen the garbage bag with caylee in it, but only figured it out after the facts came to light. For a person who has a smidge of conscience that would put you in a guilt trip, especially if you didn't tell what you probably saw.  Of course this theory is based on him having any conscience!
I can't stand the man, but just don't see him being so vicious as to toss his granddaughter's body like that. But maybe he did  ::MonkeyNoNo::

We went through all this when some people were SURE Lee was Caylee's biodad....so it was proven beyond a doubt that Lee wasn't...so now it's George??  I refused to get into this conversation again...it's a lose/lose...you either believe the reports of you don't....I don't know diddlysquat about DNA reports....hope Turbo can get someone who really knows what they are doing to analyze the reports. Personally I think it's a bullcrap. I don't think Kc was abused by Lee or georgieboy. JMO
I'm with you on this one Sunny.   And my best guess is that this is just another game the defense is playing, it will never come up in court, but it doesn't matter, the accusation has already done it's harm. Casey is going down, she knows it and she is going to take as many people with her, so to speak, as she can. She takes great pleasure in doing so, IMO

Also, on the day of George getting his gas cans back....He has told two different stories about what his actual position was at the car that day....I can't determine if he could actually see into the trunk or not.  I really don't feel George is involved with Caylee's death or disposal, in any way.


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Post by: SunnyinTX on August 15, 2010, 03:43:32 PM
I don't know much, but IF it turns out that George is Caylee's father  ::MonkeyShocked:: not a jury in the world would give the death penalty to Casey, imo. I honestly don't think a jury will anyway, imo.

Hi NR--I agree.  IMO Casey will not receive the death penalty.  I don't think she'll receive LWOP.  Life, maybe, with possibility of parole.  It depends on how many choices they have when they go to deliberate.  If manslaughter, it wouldn't surprise me.  I don't think attractive young women are ever sentenced to death. Ugly middle aged women, not young and pretty.  I know that a couple are on death row, but still alive.  I don't think it's right, but it is what it is.   

Hi BB...I agree..although I still have my doubts about it ever going to trial. If it does, I do not think she will get the DP....but I do hope she gets LWOP....the duct tape evidence is going to be shocking....even to those who 'know' about the duct tape....to see an image whether a physical one or a 3-D image....it's going to be a kick in the stomach. I think there is still forensic evidence we haven't seen....a work in progress perhaps ::MonkeyWink::


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 15, 2010, 03:44:53 PM
And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

me too..... ::rhino:: ::rhino::
I will fall off my computer chair, and call it quits  ::MonkeyNoNo::  Just am not ready for something like this.

Oh I don't think George is Caylee's father, I just haven't seen an FBI DNA report on him.  But I do think he could throw Caylee's little body in the woods.  After all, it appears that he and Cindy knew where she was for some time before Kronk found her.  They left her there. They are dispicable people.
Maybe again I'm being fooled by George, I just don't see him throwing Caylee's body, but then again, to save Casey he may  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Just so hard to imagine this.


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Post by: SunnyinTX on August 15, 2010, 03:48:46 PM
If George found a dead Caylee in the trunk  ::MonkeyEek:: and obviously he wouldn't call the police, IF this happened you would think he would have found somewhere, a decent place to bury Caylee and not toss her where she was tossed. I can't stand George, frankly I think he is useless, but just can't picture a grandfather tossing his granddaughter like that  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Norose~  me too.  I really don't believe wimpy George has it in him to be an active participant in tossing her.  I'm thinking that during the gas can/chock incident he may have seen the garbage bag with caylee in it, but only figured it out after the facts came to light. For a person who has a smidge of conscience that would put you in a guilt trip, especially if you didn't tell what you probably saw.  Of course this theory is based on him having any conscience!
I can't stand the man, but just don't see him being so vicious as to toss his granddaughter's body like that. But maybe he did  ::MonkeyNoNo::

We went through all this when some people were SURE Lee was Caylee's biodad....so it was proven beyond a doubt that Lee wasn't...so now it's George??  I refused to get into this conversation again...it's a lose/lose...you either believe the reports of you don't....I don't know diddlysquat about DNA reports....hope Turbo can get someone who really knows what they are doing to analyze the reports. Personally I think it's a bullcrap. I don't think Kc was abused by Lee or georgieboy. JMO
I'm with you on this one Sunny.   And my best guess is that this is just another game the defense is playing, it will never come up in court, but it doesn't matter, the accusation has already done it's harm. Casey is going down, she knows it and she is going to take as many people with her, so to speak, as she can. She takes great pleasure in doing so, IMO

Also, on the day of George getting his gas cans back....He has told two different stories about what his actual position was at the car that day....I can't determine if he could actually see into the trunk or not.  I really don't feel George is involved with Caylee's death or disposal, in any way.

Hi tupelo!  I don't think he was either. I think his lies/different stories are him, trying to 'protect' Kc because sin-cin tell him to.  He is weak and spineless...I don't believe he could live with having done anything to dispose of Caylee.  I believe he loved Caylee more than anyone in that house....she loved him unconditionally. He was her Jo-Jo.


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Post by: mizjay on August 15, 2010, 03:56:02 PM
And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

me too..... ::rhino:: ::rhino::
I will fall off my computer chair, and call it quits  ::MonkeyNoNo::  Just am not ready for something like this.
He does have a way of getting you to believe that he's so sincere about something and then, bam! he pulls an essay out of his back pocket or is singing kc's praises...who knows?  I can't wait for this to end, it's hard to stop watching because they're all such nasty ppl. I want them all to pay.  And another thing, it's been said that Cindy wasn't wearing her ashes jewelery, if she wasn't her denial of Caylee is complete. She would rather deny her loyalty to Caylee's memory than sink her own lying ship.

Oh I don't think George is Caylee's father, I just haven't seen an FBI DNA report on him.  But I do think he could throw Caylee's little body in the woods.  After all, it appears that he and Cindy knew where she was for some time before Kronk found her.  They left her there. They are dispicable people.
Maybe again I'm being fooled by George, I just don't see him throwing Caylee's body, but then again, to save Casey he may  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Just so hard to imagine this.


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Post by: mizjay on August 15, 2010, 03:56:54 PM
.....oops, got into the wrong place in my last post.  ::MonkeyEek::


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Post by: N2WISHN on August 15, 2010, 04:26:20 PM
And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

me too..... ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Having watched and listened to the appalling anthonys for over two years, I wouldn’t be shocked by that revelation, but what would shock me is if the State knew he was the father and they still went after the death penalty. IMO no jury would ever give KC the DP knowing she was abused and forced to give birth to a child by her own father……my guess is that all this molestation talk will figure in on the penalty phase after she is found guilty of murder.


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Post by: mizjay on August 15, 2010, 04:33:57 PM
And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

me too..... ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Having watched and listened to the appalling anthonys for over two years, I wouldn’t be shocked by that revelation, but what would shock me is if the State knew he was the father and they still went after the death penalty. IMO no jury would ever give KC the DP knowing she was abused and forced to give birth to a child by her own father……my guess is that all this molestation talk will figure in on the penalty phase after she is found guilty of murder.
One thing's for sure, Baez and crew have spent a small chunk of change investigating George, so i'm thinking he is their ace in the hole when all the SODDI's go down the tubes, and even when that fails, the unproven cloud of sexual abuse possiblity will linger for penalty phase...unless he goes martyr and says he did it in order to completely muddy the waters


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Post by: N2WISHN on August 15, 2010, 04:40:48 PM
And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

me too..... ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Having watched and listened to the appalling anthonys for over two years, I wouldn’t be shocked by that revelation, but what would shock me is if the State knew he was the father and they still went after the death penalty. IMO no jury would ever give KC the DP knowing she was abused and forced to give birth to a child by her own father……my guess is that all this molestation talk will figure in on the penalty phase after she is found guilty of murder.
One thing's for sure, Baez and crew have spent a small chunk of change investigating George, so i'm thinking he is their ace in the hole when all the SODDI's go down the tubes, and even when that fails, the unproven cloud of sexual abuse possiblity will linger for penalty phase...unless he goes martyr and says he did it in order to completely muddy the waters


IMO he is doing everything he can to make sure his gorgeous(in his eyes only) daughter never gets the DP and that includes his phony suicide attempt.


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Post by: mizjay on August 15, 2010, 04:49:21 PM
And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

me too..... ::rhino:: ::rhino::
Really, what a joke...and the defense has spent all that time and money when they should be deposing people, working on forensics, and we're supposed to believe that his cornball "suicide" attempt is important to this defense. I'll freely admit, I have no clue what lawyers are supposed to be doing, as in timeline, but c'mon, they spend more time investigating the dumbest stuff, like Kronks' ex. The State can probably shred her apart if she's on the stand, so why bother? I don't get it, it just seems like "busy work" to me.


Having watched and listened to the appalling anthonys for over two years, I wouldn’t be shocked by that revelation, but what would shock me is if the State knew he was the father and they still went after the death penalty. IMO no jury would ever give KC the DP knowing she was abused and forced to give birth to a child by her own father……my guess is that all this molestation talk will figure in on the penalty phase after she is found guilty of murder.
One thing's for sure, Baez and crew have spent a small chunk of change investigating George, so i'm thinking he is their ace in the hole when all the SODDI's go down the tubes, and even when that fails, the unproven cloud of sexual abuse possiblity will linger for penalty phase...unless he goes martyr and says he did it in order to completely muddy the waters


IMO he is doing everything he can to make sure his gorgeous(in his eyes only) daughter never gets the DP and that includes his phony suicide attempt.


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Post by: mizjay on August 15, 2010, 04:50:29 PM
 ::MonkeyShocked::  Okay, I give up, I got in the quote box AGAIN. I better go take a nap!


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Post by: N2WISHN on August 15, 2010, 05:14:26 PM
::MonkeyShocked::  Okay, I give up, I got in the quote box AGAIN. I better go take a nap!


Happens to me too. I get so upset by what has gone on and is still going on with the defense and the ants. It's taking too long for justice and its like torture to watch the shenanigans and now the taxpayers are footing the bill.


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Post by: SunnyinTX on August 15, 2010, 05:22:48 PM
And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

me too..... ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Having watched and listened to the appalling anthonys for over two years, I wouldn’t be shocked by that revelation, but what would shock me is if the State knew he was the father and they still went after the death penalty. IMO no jury would ever give KC the DP knowing she was abused and forced to give birth to a child by her own father……my guess is that all this molestation talk will figure in on the penalty phase after she is found guilty of murder.
One thing's for sure, Baez and crew have spent a small chunk of change investigating George, so i'm thinking he is their ace in the hole when all the SODDI's go down the tubes, and even when that fails, the unproven cloud of sexual abuse possiblity will linger for penalty phase...unless he goes martyr and says he did it in order to completely muddy the waters

Hi mizjay...I agree this molestation stuff is going to come up in the penalty phase, if there is a trial. So....how do you prove molestation this many years after it supposedly happened? If he admits to it to save her....does the state then go after him? It's all a lot of what if's and gives me a headache!!


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Post by: SunnyinTX on August 15, 2010, 05:25:29 PM
And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

me too..... ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Having watched and listened to the appalling anthonys for over two years, I wouldn’t be shocked by that revelation, but what would shock me is if the State knew he was the father and they still went after the death penalty. IMO no jury would ever give KC the DP knowing she was abused and forced to give birth to a child by her own father……my guess is that all this molestation talk will figure in on the penalty phase after she is found guilty of murder.
One thing's for sure, Baez and crew have spent a small chunk of change investigating George, so i'm thinking he is their ace in the hole when all the SODDI's go down the tubes, and even when that fails, the unproven cloud of sexual abuse possiblity will linger for penalty phase...unless he goes martyr and says he did it in order to completely muddy the waters


IMO he is doing everything he can to make sure his gorgeous(in his eyes only) daughter never gets the DP and that includes his phony suicide attempt.

I agree...but I do not believe he would ever go so far as to say he helped dispose of Caylee. There are somethings that one just have to believe...and for me, that is one of them. 


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Post by: SunnyinTX on August 15, 2010, 05:26:19 PM
::MonkeyShocked::  Okay, I give up, I got in the quote box AGAIN. I better go take a nap!

hhahahahaha...it happens to all of us from time to time. ::MonkeyHaHa::


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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 15, 2010, 05:29:24 PM
::MonkeyShocked::  Okay, I give up, I got in the quote box AGAIN. I better go take a nap!


Happens to me too. I get so upset by what has gone on and is still going on with the defense and the ants. It's taking too long for justice and its like torture to watch the shenanigans and now the taxpayers are footing the bill.

You got that right.  ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 15, 2010, 05:32:00 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/08/casey-anthony-and-lindsay-lohan-dont-let-your-parents-do-television-interviews.html
Casey Anthony and Lindsay Lohan: Don’t let your parents do television interviews
Caylee and Casey Anthony, George and Cindy Anthony, NBC, Today, WESH — posted by halboedeker on August, 15 2010 10:27 AM
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What did you think you got out of that interview?

I wanted to ask that of Dina Lohan, Lindsay’s mother, and and George and Cindy Anthony, parents of Casey Anthony, after Friday’s “Today.”  Seen back to back, the two interviews were chilling.

The parents didn’t come off well in either chat, and if they were trying to help their children, they failed miserably. The parents whined a lot, which isn’t a wise public-relations approach these days.

Dina Lohan repeatedly complained that the judge had played “hardball” by sending Lindsay to jail. (Dina Lohan is seen in this NBC photo by Peter Kramer.) Matt Lauer said that ” a lot of people think Lindsay had this coming … it was for her own good.”

Dina Lohan missed that idea as ”propaganda” that had been ”orchestrated.” Ah, the delusion.

Lauer wondered about the complaint that Dina and people closest to Lindsay haven’t helped the young woman. Propaganda, Dina Lohan said.

Dina complained that Lindsay is under a microscope and coverage has been magnified because of the Internet. She is like hundreds of other people in that regard.

George and Cindy Anthony sent conflicting signals in two interviews: a taped one with Kerry Sanders and a live one with Meredith Vieira.

Cindy Anthony told Sanders there was nothing linking Casey to Caylee’s  murder.  George acknolwedged he might be in denial.

“Can I see that Casey panicked? Maybe something happened,” Cindy told Sanders — a point that can’t help Casey’s defense.
hen Vieira talked to the Anthonys live in the show’s New York studio. Cindy “wasn’t certain” of all the forensic evidence. “A lot of stuff just doesn’t make sense to me,” Cindy said.

She didn’t know why she said what she said on a 911 call. George will stand behind Casey because he’s her father.

“I appreciate you coming out,” Vieira said the couple.

Well, that makes one person.

Could anyone tell these parents to stop doing interviews? Oh, no.

Their interviews are like guns, and once they open their mouths, they start shooting themselves in the feet. And that’s not propaganda.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 15, 2010, 05:33:25 PM
http://mhutch.blogspot.com/2010/08/there-was-only-one-victim-its-not-casey.html
Sunday, August 15, 2010
There Was Only One Victim & It's Not Casey Anthony


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Post by: mizjay on August 15, 2010, 05:34:47 PM
And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

me too..... ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Having watched and listened to the appalling anthonys for over two years, I wouldn’t be shocked by that revelation, but what would shock me is if the State knew he was the father and they still went after the death penalty. IMO no jury would ever give KC the DP knowing she was abused and forced to give birth to a child by her own father……my guess is that all this molestation talk will figure in on the penalty phase after she is found guilty of murder.
One thing's for sure, Baez and crew have spent a small chunk of change investigating George, so i'm thinking he is their ace in the hole when all the SODDI's go down the tubes, and even when that fails, the unproven cloud of sexual abuse possiblity will linger for penalty phase...unless he goes martyr and says he did it in order to completely muddy the waters

Hi mizjay...I agree this molestation stuff is going to come up in the penalty phase, if there is a trial. So....how do you prove molestation this many years after it supposedly happened? If he admits to it to save her....does the state then go after him? It's all a lot of what if's and gives me a headache!!
Hey!
Well, I don't know about them pursuing charges IF he claims to have done it, but with the A's and their lawyer appearing to work in tandem with Baez, I'm sure they've explored all possibilities, however it sure seems like something like that would royally mess up the pious image he would need to continue the Foundation scam. Maybe he's out of the loop and Cindy will emerge as the Joan of Arc, and carry on despite her agonizing shock at GA's grimy exploits, that way she gets to be a victim too!  So many victims here, except the real little one who was killed.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 15, 2010, 05:37:33 PM
Well that's for sure, George and Cindy and Dina Lohan all need to step away from an interviewer  ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Post by: loca on August 15, 2010, 05:46:13 PM
MarinadeDave: CASEY IS INNOCENT
MarinadeDave: I found the real Zanny
MarinadeDave: I have a video of the toilet she peed in
MarinadeDave: go to my blog and donate please
MarinadeDave: I need money for parking and gas
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/news/anthony_case

Can you believew this guy is it the same guy that got Judge Strickland in trouble???


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 15, 2010, 05:49:13 PM
MarinadeDave: CASEY IS INNOCENT
MarinadeDave: I found the real Zanny
MarinadeDave: I have a video of the toilet she peed in
MarinadeDave: go to my blog and donate please
MarinadeDave: I need money for parking and gas
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/news/anthony_case

Can you believew this guy is it the same guy that got Judge Strickland in trouble???
What's next a picture of the toilet that you pee in?


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Post by: loca on August 15, 2010, 05:53:09 PM
MarinadeDave: CASEY IS INNOCENT
MarinadeDave: I found the real Zanny
MarinadeDave: I have a video of the toilet she peed in
MarinadeDave: go to my blog and donate please
MarinadeDave: I need money for parking and gas
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/news/anthony_case

Can you believew this guy is it the same guy that got Judge Strickland in trouble???
What's next a picture of the toilet that you pee in?

yeah he is quite the idiot. I had a word or two for him.


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Post by: mizjay on August 15, 2010, 06:19:17 PM
MarinadeDave: CASEY IS INNOCENT
MarinadeDave: I found the real Zanny
MarinadeDave: I have a video of the toilet she peed in
MarinadeDave: go to my blog and donate please
MarinadeDave: I need money for parking and gas
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/news/anthony_case

Can you believew this guy is it the same guy that got Judge Strickland in trouble???

I didn't see the link. Is he saying this stuff in an interview or his crap9y blog?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 15, 2010, 06:29:48 PM
MarinadeDave: CASEY IS INNOCENT
MarinadeDave: I found the real Zanny
MarinadeDave: I have a video of the toilet she peed in
MarinadeDave: go to my blog and donate please
MarinadeDave: I need money for parking and gas
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/news/anthony_case

Can you believew this guy is it the same guy that got Judge Strickland in trouble???

I didn't see the link. Is he saying this stuff in an interview or his crap9y blog?

I seen the link at eyes for lies I went there to see the video of cindy that someone here posted. I seen the instant messageing there and he was a poster there!! It made me so mad I sent him a message. The link at eyes sent me to fox.


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Post by: mizjay on August 15, 2010, 06:32:20 PM
MarinadeDave: CASEY IS INNOCENT
MarinadeDave: I found the real Zanny
MarinadeDave: I have a video of the toilet she peed in
MarinadeDave: go to my blog and donate please
MarinadeDave: I need money for parking and gas
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/news/anthony_case

Can you believew this guy is it the same guy that got Judge Strickland in trouble???

I didn't see the link. Is he saying this stuff in an interview or his crap9y blog?

I seen the link at eyes for lies I went there to see the video of cindy that someone here posted. I seen the instant messageing there and he was a poster there!! It made me so mad I sent him a message. The link at eyes sent me to fox.
Thanks. He seems a little off his rocker to me. Another person cashing in , it's mind blowing how many have used this baby.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Scatty on August 15, 2010, 06:34:28 PM
MarinadeDave: CASEY IS INNOCENT
MarinadeDave: I found the real Zanny
MarinadeDave: I have a video of the toilet she peed in
MarinadeDave: go to my blog and donate please
MarinadeDave: I need money for parking and gas
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/news/anthony_case

Can you believew this guy is it the same guy that got Judge Strickland in trouble???

I didn't see the link. Is he saying this stuff in an interview or his crap9y blog?

It's on the right hand side of the page in a type of comments section. I don't think it was really MarinadeDave.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 15, 2010, 06:37:32 PM
MarinadeDave: CASEY IS INNOCENT
MarinadeDave: I found the real Zanny
MarinadeDave: I have a video of the toilet she peed in
MarinadeDave: go to my blog and donate please
MarinadeDave: I need money for parking and gas
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/news/anthony_case

Can you believew this guy is it the same guy that got Judge Strickland in trouble???

I didn't see the link. Is he saying this stuff in an interview or his crap9y blog?

I seen the link at eyes for lies I went there to see the video of cindy that someone here posted. I seen the instant messageing there and he was a poster there!! It made me so mad I sent him a message. The link at eyes sent me to fox.

I started reading some of cindys emails to casey and couldnt continue. I got ill reading the part where she tells casey that she is reading her bible and going to church and  about jesus appearing to her.  She  is trying to come across as jesus minded !! that !! ever heard the saying that: the devil goes to church too? there you have it. I had been curious how cindys family was fairing especialy her mother. In one of her letters she tells of going to vissit her parents and spending the day with them. She than mentions how she more or less didnt like not being considered caseys best friend. Geez that  woman has issues, did she forget that cindy choked her and possibly to hurt her mom casey killled the baby. I  cannot believe her !!  She (casey) is the center of the light now as once again being the princess. But the princess is gonna rot in jail get fat , old , arthritic,and eventualy wither away. Wonder if cindy is wearing caseys push up bra's and clothes I kinda thinks o. I noticed in the  video with sanders! she had on heels and was dressed to young for her age! that color of hair that she is sporting does her no justice! she realy should  use caseys bra's cuz them twins are hanging to low. rant over!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 15, 2010, 06:39:46 PM
MarinadeDave: CASEY IS INNOCENT
MarinadeDave: I found the real Zanny
MarinadeDave: I have a video of the toilet she peed in
MarinadeDave: go to my blog and donate please
MarinadeDave: I need money for parking and gas
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/news/anthony_case

Can you believew this guy is it the same guy that got Judge Strickland in trouble???

I didn't see the link. Is he saying this stuff in an interview or his crap9y blog?

I seen the link at eyes for lies I went there to see the video of cindy that someone here posted. I seen the instant messageing there and he was a poster there!! It made me so mad I sent him a message. The link at eyes sent me to fox.

I started reading some of cindys emails to casey and couldnt continue. I got ill reading the part where she tells casey that she is reading her bible and going to church and  about jesus appearing to her.  She  is trying to come across as jesus minded !! that !! ever heard the saying that: the devil goes to church too? there you have it. I had been curious how cindys family was fairing especialy her mother. In one of her letters she tells of going to vissit her parents and spending the day with them. She than mentions how she more or less didnt like not being considered caseys best friend. Geez that  woman has issues, did she forget that cindy choked her and possibly to hurt her mom casey killled the baby. I  cannot believe her !!  She (casey) is the center of the light now as once again being the princess. But the princess is gonna rot in jail get fat , old , arthritic,and eventualy wither away. Wonder if cindy is wearing caseys push up bra's and clothes I kinda thinks o. I noticed in the  video with sanders! she had on heels and was dressed to young for her age! that color of hair that she is sporting does her no justice! she realy should  use caseys bra's cuz them twins are hanging to low. rant over!!!
::MonkeyHaHa::
That sure felt good.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Scatty on August 15, 2010, 06:40:04 PM
MarinadeDave: CASEY IS INNOCENT
MarinadeDave: I found the real Zanny
MarinadeDave: I have a video of the toilet she peed in
MarinadeDave: go to my blog and donate please
MarinadeDave: I need money for parking and gas
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/news/anthony_case

Can you believew this guy is it the same guy that got Judge Strickland in trouble???

I didn't see the link. Is he saying this stuff in an interview or his crap9y blog?

I seen the link at eyes for lies I went there to see the video of cindy that someone here posted. I seen the instant messageing there and he was a poster there!! It made me so mad I sent him a message. The link at eyes sent me to fox.

I started reading some of cindys emails to casey and couldnt continue. I got ill reading the part where she tells casey that she is reading her bible and going to church and  about jesus appearing to her.  She  is trying to come across as jesus minded !! that !! ever heard the saying that: the devil goes to church too? there you have it. I had been curious how cindys family was fairing especialy her mother. In one of her letters she tells of going to vissit her parents and spending the day with them. She than mentions how she more or less didnt like not being considered caseys best friend. Geez that  woman has issues, did she forget that cindy choked her and possibly to hurt her mom casey killled the baby. I  cannot believe her !!  She (casey) is the center of the light now as once again being the princess. But the princess is gonna rot in jail get fat , old , arthritic,and eventualy wither away. Wonder if cindy is wearing caseys push up bra's and clothes I kinda thinks o. I noticed in the  video with sanders! she had on heels and was dressed to young for her age! that color of hair that she is sporting does her no justice! she realy should  use caseys bra's cuz them twins are hanging to low. rant over!!!

Loca!  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I really enjoyed your rant!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 15, 2010, 06:53:14 PM
Way back when Baez brokered the picture deal, 200,000 is a lot for just pics. I think there must have been an interview slated with the slunt herself. That didn't happen, she was indicted for capitol murder and then convicted for the fraud, so maybe she can't ever profit or fulfill the obligation??? So, enter mommy the fixer, the media whore. another big reason to keep the party line even against all evidence. $$$ is a huge motivator with them.

It's also an explanation of why , when Bozo was on the hot seat with JS about the ABC deal, Cindy hops up just at the moment they went behind closed doors, another??
Or it's maybe like you said, a video documentary of their whole ordeal, however, none of these people can believe the smut that spews out of Cindy, surely not. It would be an instant flop, she's not credible, she's not likable, she's not even hated enough for people to pay to watch just to pan it. There's something we don't know ( actually lots but you know what I mean)

Maybe Cindy has her own movie deal, 'Despicable Me II.'



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 15, 2010, 06:58:39 PM
have yall seen this






Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: loca on August 15, 2010, 07:00:33 PM
klaasend

I am soo sorry didnt mean to post twice and this big I am an amateur with this stuff

someone help and remove it lol
oh crap!!! too much sugar today.

HELP!! going to hide!!!!

Sorry!! Dont throw rotten bananas at me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Green Eyes on August 15, 2010, 07:33:54 PM
Sorry O/T  Boo Nanners


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: mizjay on August 15, 2010, 07:36:23 PM
Way back when Baez brokered the picture deal, 200,000 is a lot for just pics. I think there must have been an interview slated with the slunt herself. That didn't happen, she was indicted for capitol murder and then convicted for the fraud, so maybe she can't ever profit or fulfill the obligation??? So, enter mommy the fixer, the media whore. another big reason to keep the party line even against all evidence. $$$ is a huge motivator with them.

It's also an explanation of why , when Bozo was on the hot seat with JS about the ABC deal, Cindy hops up just at the moment they went behind closed doors, another??
Or it's maybe like you said, a video documentary of their whole ordeal, however, none of these people can believe the smut that spews out of Cindy, surely not. It would be an instant flop, she's not credible, she's not likable, she's not even hated enough for people to pay to watch just to pan it. There's something we don't know ( actually lots but you know what I mean)

Maybe Cindy has her own movie deal, 'Despicable Me II.'


yeah, I like that!  As much as i would hate it, to see her ( not an actress) play herself would be great. I doubt the movie would ever hit the screen because it would never get finished, between her arguing and demands. It would serve whoever bankrolled the thing right!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: O4Bull on August 15, 2010, 08:09:43 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

Friday, August 13, 2010
Did George Anthony Molest Casey Anthony
this is interesting.

Guys this is a link to the “Eyes for lies”, if you would like to vote for the video of Cindy to be analyzed… we will see if it will be chosen. Thanks a lot!!!

http://eyesforlies.uservoice.com/forums/14727-topic-suggestions/suggestions/987531-cindy-anthony-on-today-show?ref=title
Very early in this case, "Eyes for Lies" announced that she did not detect any deception in Cindy....

 ::MonkeyCool::
  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::  I enjoy her opinions but I don't have to be an expert on deception to know that cindy anthony is a big FAT LIAR ::piggy::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: BooMonkey on August 15, 2010, 08:13:48 PM
Sorry O/T  Boo Nanners

Thanks! Got it and back atcha!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 15, 2010, 08:16:17 PM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/2010/08/15/mark-nejame-on-the-defense-against-casey-anthony-legal-team/
WATTS UP WITH THIS???
Mark NeJame On The Defense Against Casey Anthony Legal Team
    * August 15, 2010 – 11:31 am



http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/08/cindy-anthony-and-forensic-science.html
Sunday, August 15, 2010
Cindy Anthony's Campaign


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: jjayinthemorning on August 15, 2010, 08:16:19 PM
If George found a dead Caylee in the trunk  ::MonkeyEek:: and obviously he wouldn't call the police, IF this happened you would think he would have found somewhere, a decent place to bury Caylee and not toss her where she was tossed. I can't stand George, frankly I think he is useless, but just can't picture a grandfather tossing his granddaughter like that  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Norose~  me too.  I really don't believe wimpy George has it in him to be an active participant in tossing her.  I'm thinking that during the gas can/chock incident he may have seen the garbage bag with caylee in it, but only figured it out after the facts came to light. For a person who has a smidge of conscience that would put you in a guilt trip, especially if you didn't tell what you probably saw.  Of course this theory is based on him having any conscience!
I can't stand the man, but just don't see him being so vicious as to toss his granddaughter's body like that. But maybe he did  ::MonkeyNoNo::
What if the woods was Casey and George's little hiding place where he molested her? The place where they kept all their secrets?
No I was serious about the snake. I can see George marking his territory. The first report was that the snake was whole and just dead. Second report that it was run over by a car. It's a suspicious snake!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: mizjay on August 15, 2010, 08:29:16 PM
If George found a dead Caylee in the trunk  ::MonkeyEek:: and obviously he wouldn't call the police, IF this happened you would think he would have found somewhere, a decent place to bury Caylee and not toss her where she was tossed. I can't stand George, frankly I think he is useless, but just can't picture a grandfather tossing his granddaughter like that  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Norose~  me too.  I really don't believe wimpy George has it in him to be an active participant in tossing her.  I'm thinking that during the gas can/chock incident he may have seen the garbage bag with caylee in it, but only figured it out after the facts came to light. For a person who has a smidge of conscience that would put you in a guilt trip, especially if you didn't tell what you probably saw.  Of course this theory is based on him having any conscience!
I can't stand the man, but just don't see him being so vicious as to toss his granddaughter's body like that. But maybe he did  ::MonkeyNoNo::
What if the woods was Casey and George's little hiding place where he molested her? The place where they kept all their secrets?
No I was serious about the snake. I can see George marking his territory. The first report was that the snake was whole and just dead. Second report that it was run over by a car. It's a suspicious snake!
Pass that pipe over here!   i don't see Georgie and his shiny loafers, tucked in shirts and perfectly coiffed hair going in the garbage dump woods for a forbidden incestuous tryst with casey. Nor can i see his wimpy self handling a snake, dead or alive. jmo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: O4Bull on August 15, 2010, 08:33:37 PM
NO evidence to connect KC............KC is not that smart............this leads me back to the 24th when George & KC were at the house and the "script" about the trunk.  I have always wondered if George found the body that day because the story was way too rehearsed to ring true.

Who would know how to wipe down everything to prevent finger prints from being anywhere? George.
It is impossible for there not to be fingerprints on a car trunk, or anywhere in a trunk of a car. I can see the prints being degraded from the garbage bags due to the time element but there is no way there could be no prints anywhere in that trunk unless it had been "sanitized" by someone who KNEW how to do it. Think about it.
Turbo, you and I are on the same page! There is something fishy about that gas-can return day. No witnesses, contrived story. George used the same method to get to Casey that mom tried by calling the police about stolen gas cans... and it worked for him. How did she know to meet up with him? Maybe he threatened to out their little affair to Cindy, or Tony?
And yes, the smell would have been apparent when the trunk was open dispite the gasoline odor. And Casey had planned to burn the body with gasoline by the airport and George probably stopped her because the body would be discovered. And is this the point that Casey went to Sawgrass to dream up a story?
JJ - I have a question, why do you think that casey would have been afraid of george "outing their little affair?"  Although I agree with you that there was molestation (IMO) I don't think casey enjoyed it, or it was her idea.  I am open to that, but having known 2 girls who were still having relations with their fathers at age 17, both were raped the first time very young.  Neither wanted to have sex with their father and I have a hard time reading some of your comments.  I admit it is a sensitive topic for me, so maybe I'm overreacting?  Care to explain?  My friend who only became my friend at age 17 was raped by her father and he also raped her older sister and two younger brothers.  Their mother had to know, and I hated her for it.  I never met the parents, but I did "drunk dial" the father the same night my friend (also drunk) told me about it.

This stuff happens, and it's sick sick sick.  So, when it seems to be mocked, even though it's about a suspected murderer, it's not funny. IMO ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: O4Bull on August 15, 2010, 08:41:34 PM
Eyes for Lies weighed in on Cindy's level of truthfulness back in July of 2008, shortly after the case broke.  Here is an excerpt of what she had to say:

Quote
http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2008/07/grandmother-cindy-anthony.html

"Many of you believe she is being dishonest and not genuine.

I have to disagree. When I watch Cindy speak in this video, she is genuine and true."

More recently, this was her assessment after watching their Good Morning America appearance a couple of months back:

Quote
http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2010/06/george-and-cindy-anthony-on-gma-today.html

"So many people believe the Anthonys are lying, and I couldn't disagree more."

Her expert opinion is that they are both just in denial.   ::MonkeyCool::

No expert is 100% accurate and this is one she missed. Denial does NOT lie and destroy evidence because one is denial would see no reason to -

I'm not a big believer in profilers, body language experts, etc. because it is often a matter of opinion--in fact, IMO, it is always a matter of opinion.  I remember a murder in, I think New Orleans, and it was suppose to be a white dude living with his mother, etc.  It turned out to be an African American with none of the characteristics claimed by the profiler. It's kind of voo-doo to me.  DNA? That's different.  Scientific.  Proven to be.  I don't know how it was determined that George's DNA went by the designation K-6 or whatever. If his name is definitely attacked to it by the FBI, then that's pretty definitive, IMO.  If not, and is just identified by a letter-number, It isn't.  Just another guess. 

And that guy who sent letter bombs to heads of corporations?  He wasn't found by a profiler although they claimed he was.  His brother turned him in.
I just a skeptic when it comes to profilers and language experts, pyschics, etc. but I'm skeptical about most things I read on the internet. I need a reliable, proven source such as the FBI Lab--not their profilers--Then I'm a believer.

No offense intended.  That's just my perspective on it.
BBM ^^
OR even K-9  (like the toothbrush cindy gave LE and bragged about)  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 15, 2010, 08:51:48 PM
Apologies if this has been mentioned already but Simon Barrett [ August 15 ] has the reason why Jesse Grund's depo was cancelled---Baez & Co. forgot to serve Jesse with the papers.  Scroll down several paragraphs where Simon mentions it in his summary:

http://www.bloggernews.net/125077


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: numbersgirl on August 15, 2010, 08:53:57 PM
Who's to know if there was molestation or not?  They all lie so much that you can't believe any of them.  They have all been shown to be sexually promiscuous.  GA and CA have both allegedly stepped outside the marriage.  Lee's screaming C M A was beyond anything my brain can understand.
I can't for the life of me understand how any of that mess could have been for his little niece.  Having said all that, does any of it really matter?
KC has alleged it and IMO, Baez will use it.  It's a he said/she said unless there is DNA proof in Caylee's parentage. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: O4Bull on August 15, 2010, 09:06:38 PM
Who's to know if there was molestation or not?  They all lie so much that you can't believe any of them.  They have all been shown to be sexually promiscuous.  GA and CA have both allegedly stepped outside the marriage.  Lee's screaming C M A was beyond anything my brain can understand.
I can't for the life of me understand how any of that mess could have been for his little niece.  Having said all that, does any of it really matter?
KC has alleged it and IMO, Baez will use it.  It's a he said/she said unless there is DNA proof in Caylee's parentage. 
I believe they will attempt to prove it otherwise, if indeed george is not the father of Caylee.  They can prove that casey was molested by psychological profiles.  I think it matters in that a jury will consider it if she is found guilty.  I couldn't vote for death if it's found that george is the father of Caylee, and maybe not even if he just admits to molesting her.  That's enough to really mess up your mind, but in NO WAY an excuse for murder.  I'd sentence her to life with no parole if it's proven george is Caylee's father, or if he admits to molesting her.  Otherwise, move over and let me pull the switch.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: numbersgirl on August 15, 2010, 09:08:20 PM
Who's to know if there was molestation or not?  They all lie so much that you can't believe any of them.  They have all been shown to be sexually promiscuous.  GA and CA have both allegedly stepped outside the marriage.  Lee's screaming C M A was beyond anything my brain can understand.
I can't for the life of me understand how any of that mess could have been for his little niece.  Having said all that, does any of it really matter?
KC has alleged it and IMO, Baez will use it.  It's a he said/she said unless there is DNA proof in Caylee's parentage. 
I believe they will attempt to prove it otherwise, if indeed george is not the father of Caylee.  They can prove that casey was molested by psychological profiles.  I think it matters in that a jury will consider it if she is found guilty.  I couldn't vote for death if it's found that george is the father of Caylee, and maybe not even if he just admits to molesting her.  That's enough to really mess up your mind, but in NO WAY an excuse for murder.  I'd sentence her to life with no parole if it's proven george is Caylee's father, or if he admits to molesting her.  Otherwise, move over and let me pull the switch.

Good point O4B..agreed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: shy-monkey on August 15, 2010, 10:07:07 PM
Eyes for Lies weighed in on Cindy's level of truthfulness back in July of 2008, shortly after the case broke.  Here is an excerpt of what she had to say:

Quote
http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2008/07/grandmother-cindy-anthony.html

"Many of you believe she is being dishonest and not genuine.

I have to disagree. When I watch Cindy speak in this video, she is genuine and true."

More recently, this was her assessment after watching their Good Morning America appearance a couple of months back:

Quote
http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2010/06/george-and-cindy-anthony-on-gma-today.html

"So many people believe the Anthonys are lying, and I couldn't disagree more."

Her expert opinion is that they are both just in denial.   ::MonkeyCool::

No expert is 100% accurate and this is one she missed. Denial does NOT lie and destroy evidence because one is denial would see no reason to -

I'm not a big believer in profilers, body language experts, etc. because it is often a matter of opinion--in fact, IMO, it is always a matter of opinion.  I remember a murder in, I think New Orleans, and it was suppose to be a white dude living with his mother, etc.  It turned out to be an African American with none of the characteristics claimed by the profiler. It's kind of voo-doo to me.  DNA? That's different.  Scientific.  Proven to be.  I don't know how it was determined that George's DNA went by the designation K-6 or whatever. If his name is definitely attacked to it by the FBI, then that's pretty definitive, IMO.  If not, and is just identified by a letter-number, It isn't.  Just another guess. 

And that guy who sent letter bombs to heads of corporations?  He wasn't found by a profiler although they claimed he was.  His brother turned him in.
I just a skeptic when it comes to profilers and language experts, pyschics, etc. but I'm skeptical about most things I read on the internet. I need a reliable, proven source such as the FBI Lab--not their profilers--Then I'm a believer.

No offense intended.  That's just my perspective on it.
BBM ^^
OR even K-9  (like the toothbrush cindy gave LE and bragged about)  ::MonkeyDevil::

I always took that to be a measure of frustration due to the other Anthony's were honestly thinking they had all these tips and leads to finding Caylee and the police were already eying Casey as their prime suspect.

Speaking for myself, if I was already desperate to find my missing granddaughter and had hope of finding here safe, but time was ticking, I would have been furious if every lead the police offered to talk to me about was completely ignored. Once LE got back in the door, they used the time for more on my family questioning. I realize the police had good reasons for thinking Casey knew something, but as far as I could tell George and Cindy were blind to those possibilities and truly were in a race for time to locate Caylee. So in their eyes I'm sure all the lead ignoring by LE was viewed as these detectives could care less and weren't even trying to help locate Caylee.
Prior to that hairbrush incident there was a lot of interviews or reports where G and/or C would tell them we may have a good lead, here it is and LE's following questions would be how long Casey had driven that car, what day did she leave, type stuff etc. LE not caring about finding Caylee is said to be a big reason why G and C started their own private searching. I'm thinking LE's request for the hairbrush and other things, that now interrupted G and C's own searching, reinforced their opinion that Caylee was not important to LE. That said the hairbrush thing seemed more of a *here we'll help you exactly like you helped us* statement, more than any sort of cover up of evidence tampering.

   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: ladydi on August 16, 2010, 02:05:35 AM
but cindy already washed the pants.....there was a reason for that, if you wanted to find someone there was just no excuse for her to with-hold ANY evidence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: ckrdpast on August 16, 2010, 06:51:15 AM
Sources: George, Cindy Anthony's Attorney Quitting


http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on August 16, 2010, 07:44:22 AM
Sources: George, Cindy Anthony's Attorney Quitting


http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html
Wow!! Thank you, Ckrdpast!  I'm not sure I get the connection between being called as a witness and quitting.  Who can explain?  I have a feeling there is more to this story and Conway has been looking for an out for a while.  His reputation, in my opinion, has been damaged as a result of his association with the A's.  I couldn't stand to be in the same room that they were in, so I don't see how he had the stomach to last two years!  Isn't it funny, another lawyer bites the dust.  It's starting to look like a pattern---or perhaps Guilt by Association?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: ckrdpast on August 16, 2010, 07:46:30 AM
Monk...maybe he will explain on the early show this morning

but i wouldnt be my house on it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: ckrdpast on August 16, 2010, 07:49:29 AM
correcting my last post

be=bet

and he will be on the TODAY Show  not the early show

sorry --been up to long


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on August 16, 2010, 07:50:47 AM
Monk...maybe he will explain on the early show this morning

but i wouldnt be my house on it
Mine, either.  Most likely more "Blah, Blah, Blah, the A's are a grieving family, Blah, Blah, Blah, this is the best course of action, Blah, Blah, Blah, I've gotten my 15 minutes of fame and it will be much more lucrative to have Tiger Woods' ex-mistress as my client, (Oops, did I say that out loud?) Blah, Blah, Blah.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: ckrdpast on August 16, 2010, 08:01:39 AM
Heads up---Brad coming up on the Today show


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 08:07:57 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/081310-conway-quits-anthonys-lawyer
Conway confirms he’s out of Anthony case

Updated: Monday, 16 Aug 2010, 7:52 AM EDT
Published : Monday, 16 Aug 2010, 7:39 AM EDT

ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Attorney Brad Conway, who has been representing Casey Anthony’s parents Cindy and George Anthony, has confirmed he will not longer be their attorney.

Early Monday Conway told FOX 35's Holly Bristow this has nothing to do with the Anthony’s or anything they've done. Instead he said it has everything to do with Casey’s attorney José Baez.

Conway said that a motion filed by the defense last week made regarding documents on 4000 Texas Equusearch volunteers, Baez claimed that Conway was given unrestricted access to look at those documents but only if he got the Anthony’s to sign a waiver of conflict of interest.

Conway’s said that's not the case, the defense never spoke to him before filing the motion and now he could potentially be called as a witness by Texas Equusearch's attorney if the judge holds a hearing on the Texas Equusearch paperwork.
Texas Equusearch is fighting to keep Casey Anthony’s attorneys from getting unrestricted access to their search documents.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 08:09:03 AM
Heads up---Brad coming up on the Today show

Thanks ckrdpast!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: ckrdpast on August 16, 2010, 08:09:22 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/24643776/detail.html


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Post by: monkalicious on August 16, 2010, 08:11:36 AM
Hey, Monks!  I feel really stupid, but I'm still not getting this.  What do Baez and his duplicity have to do with Conway resigning?  This is beyond bizarre.
 ::MonkeyEek::


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Post by: ckrdpast on August 16, 2010, 08:11:59 AM
the last link was to brads letter of resignation---already posted by Trim

i posted prematurely--sorry

up to long

gonna quit posting now  :smt076


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Post by: Desdemona on August 16, 2010, 08:17:03 AM
From Brad Conway's letter of resignation:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643776/detail.html

I will continue to support the Anthonys, will continue to attend hearings and the eventual trial and most importantly I will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.


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Post by: Scatty on August 16, 2010, 08:21:52 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/081310-conway-quits-anthonys-lawyer
Conway confirms he’s out of Anthony case

Updated: Monday, 16 Aug 2010, 7:52 AM EDT
Published : Monday, 16 Aug 2010, 7:39 AM EDT

ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Attorney Brad Conway, who has been representing Casey Anthony’s parents Cindy and George Anthony, has confirmed he will not longer be their attorney.

Early Monday Conway told FOX 35's Holly Bristow this has nothing to do with the Anthony’s or anything they've done. Instead he said it has everything to do with Casey’s attorney José Baez.

Conway said that a motion filed by the defense last week made regarding documents on 4000 Texas Equusearch volunteers, Baez claimed that Conway was given unrestricted access to look at those documents but only if he got the Anthony’s to sign a waiver of conflict of interest.

Conway’s said that's not the case, the defense never spoke to him before filing the motion and now he could potentially be called as a witness by Texas Equusearch's attorney if the judge holds a hearing on the Texas Equusearch paperwork.
Texas Equusearch is fighting to keep Casey Anthony’s attorneys from getting unrestricted access to their search documents.

Wow! ::MonkeyShocked:: I mean...just...Wow!


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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 08:24:51 AM
Wow is right!
I hope my power stays on and I definately need more coffee.   ::MonkeyTongue::


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Post by: tupelohoney on August 16, 2010, 08:25:09 AM
Again, can someone please explain to me why G & C's lawyer was given access to TES documents. The Anthonys are not charged with this crime.....I just don't get it.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 08:30:41 AM
Again, can someone please explain to me why G & C's lawyer was given access to TES documents. The Anthonys are not charged with this crime.....I just don't get it.

Scoot over.   ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: Scatty on August 16, 2010, 08:30:47 AM
From Brad Conway's letter of resignation:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643776/detail.html

I will continue to support the Anthonys, will continue to attend hearings and the eventual trial and most importantly I will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.

Although he holds the A's blameless, I think he came up against a conflict of interest. On the surface it seems like defense vs. NeJame with Conway placed in the middle, but that wouldn't be a problem if the A's weren't solidy helping out the defense, by giving them false ammunition. Cindy put down in a letter for the defense to use that Conway was there to examine the TES documents as part of a deal with NeJame. And that they had withdrawn their waiver. So really, it's not just the defense that's lying, as Conway claims, but Cindy as well, since the defense is going on what she is telling them.


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Post by: Scatty on August 16, 2010, 08:33:32 AM
From Brad Conway's letter of resignation:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643776/detail.html

I will continue to support the Anthonys, will continue to attend hearings and the eventual trial and most importantly I will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.

I forgot the most important part. Another possible bone of contention with the A's--Conway believes Caylee is dead; he doesn't want to go along with Cindy's false claims that she thinks Caylee is alive.


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Post by: tupelohoney on August 16, 2010, 08:34:00 AM
Again, can someone please explain to me why G & C's lawyer was given access to TES documents. The Anthonys are not charged with this crime.....I just don't get it.

Scoot over.   ::MonkeyCool::
Can any lawyer ask for a previous client to sign a waiver so that lawyer can disclose atty/client info?


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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 08:35:26 AM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2010-08-15/news/os-casey-anthony-death-penalty-20100815_1_death-penalty-case-death-case-death-penalty
Casey Anthony: Fate could hinge on Perry's rulings on death penalty
August 15, 2010|By Anthony Colarossi, Orlando Sentinel

In the final phase of a death-penalty case, jurors must rely on recollection of evidence, veracity of court testimony and, ultimately, instructions given to them by the judge.

If Casey Anthony's murder case gets to that point, her jury will consider language such as "cold, calculated or premeditated" when deciding whether she should live or die.

Orange-Osceola Chief Judge Belvin Perry recently issued a series of orders denying Anthony's defense team motions that challenged aspects of Florida's death-penalty process. In doing this, Perry allowed for the prosecution to use several "aggravating circumstances" during her trial's so-called penalty phase, should Anthony be convicted.
 Such aggravators — asking jurors to consider whether a murder, for instance, was committed in a "heinous, atrocious, or cruel" way — must get weighed against so-called "mitigating circumstances," meant to offer explanations for why someone kills.

Perry's rulings did not come as a surprise, nor did they get as much media attention as other recent case developments, but they could have significant ramifications later.
 ::monkeyscissors::


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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 08:36:46 AM
Again, can someone please explain to me why G & C's lawyer was given access to TES documents. The Anthonys are not charged with this crime.....I just don't get it.

Scoot over.   ::MonkeyCool::
Can any lawyer ask for a previous client to sign a waiver so that lawyer can disclose atty/client info?

I do not know. 


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Post by: monkalicious on August 16, 2010, 08:37:47 AM
From Brad Conway's letter of resignation:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643776/detail.html

I will continue to support the Anthonys, will continue to attend hearings and the eventual trial and most importantly I will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.

Although he holds the A's blameless, I think he came up against a conflict of interest. On the surface it seems like defense vs. NeJame with Conway placed in the middle, but that wouldn't be a problem if the A's weren't solidy helping out the defense, by giving them false ammunition. Cindy put down in a letter for the defense to use that Conway was there to examine the TES documents as part of a deal with NeJame. And that they had withdrawn their waiver. So really, it's not just the defense that's lying, as Conway claims, but Cindy as well, since the defense is going on what she is telling them.
Okay, Scatty, now that makes sense to me.  Cindy, as usual, has compounded the damage.  Talk about a bull in the china shop, blundering around, smashing the glassware...Cindy, for all her crap about saving Casey, is the one preparing the hypodermic for her, stroking her forehead as the needle goes in. 


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Post by: tupelohoney on August 16, 2010, 08:42:40 AM
From Brad Conway's letter of resignation:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643776/detail.html

I will continue to support the Anthonys, will continue to attend hearings and the eventual trial and most importantly I will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.

Although he holds the A's blameless, I think he came up against a conflict of interest. On the surface it seems like defense vs. NeJame with Conway placed in the middle, but that wouldn't be a problem if the A's weren't solidy helping out the defense, by giving them false ammunition. Cindy put down in a letter for the defense to use that Conway was there to examine the TES documents as part of a deal with NeJame. And that they had withdrawn their waiver. So really, it's not just the defense that's lying, as Conway claims, but Cindy as well, since the defense is going on what she is telling them.
Okay, Scatty, now that makes sense to me.  Cindy, as usual, has compounded the damage.  Talk about a bull in the china shop, blundering around, smashing the glassware...Cindy, for all her crap about saving Casey, is the one preparing the hypodermic for her, stroking her forehead as the needle goes in. 
I agree on this.....Cindy's letters to Casey show this as well, IMO. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 16, 2010, 09:00:16 AM
snipped......
FBI DNA test results for George and Lee are contained in this .pdf file of the discovery released Sept. 29, 2009:
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147519/detail.html
The chart is on Page 87.
George is K7-1, and Lee is K9-1.

And for those who have not seen the blog post Turbo referenced, here is where Valhall of Hinky Meter expanded upon the conclusions her friend/reader Brenda had submitted.  Val put all the DNA info on a spreadsheet chart in order to visually compare how everyone's alleles line up:
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2009/10/31/about-caylees-parentage/

IF this data is legitimate, then it would appear that George could not be Caylee's father, nor could Lee, nor Jesse.  And btw, despite the speculation I read somewhere (I think it was here at SM) about George's DNA ruling him out as Casey's father, it actually appears from the FBI data that George and Cindy both match up as the parents of both Lee and Casey.
The pdf will not download for the one you listed for George and Lee -(the KC one does) has anyone seen a different source for that one? I contacted the station and they said there was something not working for that one and they did not know if they would be fixing it or not.
Turbo, I'm not sure what is going on here.  The links worked fine for me when I posted them.  I just checked again, and they are both working perfectly right now, too.  Sorry if you are having trouble, but I really don't understand why one of them would not load for you.

Here again are the links to the DNA test results from the discovery, from my original post:
Quote
FBI DNA test results for George and Lee are contained in this .pdf file of the discovery released Sept. 29, 2009:
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147519/detail.html
The chart is on Page 87.
George is K7-1, and Lee is K9-1.

FBI DNA test results for Caylee and Casey are contained in this .pdf file of the discovery released Oct. 9, 2009:
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html
The chart is on Page 56.
Caylee is Q18-1, and Casey is K1-1.

As for the questions about whether or not the Anthonys actually ever gave DNA samples to LE, it was reported in the media in October of 2008 that they did indeed:
Quote
http://www.wftv.com/news/17680298/detail.html
George and Cindy Anthony voluntarily gave up DNA samples this week so investigators could scientifically exclude either of them as the source of the hair and stain in Casey's trunk, but investigators had to get a search warrant to get Casey's brother Lee to submit to a DNA test. He also has refused to take a lie detector test for the FBI.
As for the FBI's use of  evidence tags, that is just the way they do it.  Those who don't believe K7-1 is George and K9-1 is Lee, must not believe that Q18-1 is Caylee, either... I personally don't see why there would be doubt about this, but that is just me.

Turbo, did your expert friend make the statement that George could not be Casey's father based on those alleles?  I am by no means an expert, but a cursory comparison seems to pretty clearly indicate otherwise, so I'm thinking your friend must have been analyzing something else.  Could you please clarify:  What was your friend looking at when he/she made that claim?  Could you explain it?

Here are the allele numbers shown in the reports in the discovery:

Alleles for Caylee, Casey, Cindy, George, and Lee

Caylee
14,15   9,13     6,7        8        10        11

Casey
15,19     9,12    6,8     8,11    10,11    11,12

Cindy
15,16     9,11    6,9        8        10      10,11

George
15,19       12     6,8     9,11    10,11       12         

Lee

15,19     11,12     6     8,11    10,11    11,12




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 09:00:31 AM
Brad Conway On The Today Show  08/16/10
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/38721272#38721272


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 16, 2010, 09:01:30 AM
Brad Conway On The Today Show  08/16/10
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/38721272#38721272
Thank you, Trimm.  As always.   :smt049


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Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 09:04:23 AM
Apologies if this has been mentioned already but Simon Barrett [ August 15 ] has the reason why Jesse Grund's depo was cancelled---Baez & Co. forgot to serve Jesse with the papers.  Scroll down several paragraphs where Simon mentions it in his summary:

http://www.bloggernews.net/125077

Good Morning Monks!  Ono, thanks!!  this is a great way to start my day! ::MonkeyDevil::

Without doubt the most humorous event of the week was the non-depo of Richard and Jessie Grund by Baez and the kids. The news outlets had the story, but not the detail. All that was reported was that they had been canceled. In todays program we shared the gory details. Someone in the illustrious Baez operation forgot the minor detail of actually serving Jessie Grund with the papers! For months Baez has been squawking about the Grunds, yet he forgets to actually invite Jessie to the party? Of course now that he is on the Tax Payers dime, I guess that he has throttled back his level of activity.


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Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 09:08:55 AM
Who's to know if there was molestation or not?  They all lie so much that you can't believe any of them.  They have all been shown to be sexually promiscuous.  GA and CA have both allegedly stepped outside the marriage.  Lee's screaming C M A was beyond anything my brain can understand.
I can't for the life of me understand how any of that mess could have been for his little niece.  Having said all that, does any of it really matter?
KC has alleged it and IMO, Baez will use it.  It's a he said/she said unless there is DNA proof in Caylee's parentage. 
I believe they will attempt to prove it otherwise, if indeed george is not the father of Caylee.  They can prove that casey was molested by psychological profiles.  I think it matters in that a jury will consider it if she is found guilty.  I couldn't vote for death if it's found that george is the father of Caylee, and maybe not even if he just admits to molesting her.  That's enough to really mess up your mind, but in NO WAY an excuse for murder.  I'd sentence her to life with no parole if it's proven george is Caylee's father, or if he admits to molesting her.  Otherwise, move over and let me pull the switch.

Morning O4,  gotta ask how molestation could be proved by psychological profiles??  Since all the A's lie so much how could anyone ever determine anything could be true or false???  Not doubting your statement, just not understanding how.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 09:09:35 AM
YW Desi.    ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 09:14:19 AM
but cindy already washed the pants.....there was a reason for that, if you wanted to find someone there was just no excuse for her to with-hold ANY evidence.

I agree....and I wonder what else was removed/destroyed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 09:15:11 AM
Sources: George, Cindy Anthony's Attorney Quitting


http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

this is the first thing I read this morning.....Karma baby, Karma!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 09:17:33 AM
Conway up next on the TODAY SHOW......I hate to give them my attention....but I gotta hear this!!  Not that I think he will say anymore than what's in his resignation letter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 09:18:26 AM
Monk...maybe he will explain on the early show this morning

but i wouldnt be my house on it
Mine, either.  Most likely more "Blah, Blah, Blah, the A's are a grieving family, Blah, Blah, Blah, this is the best course of action, Blah, Blah, Blah, I've gotten my 15 minutes of fame and it will be much more lucrative to have Tiger Woods' ex-mistress as my client, (Oops, did I say that out loud?) Blah, Blah, Blah.

Hi Monka!!   ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 09:21:35 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/081310-conway-quits-anthonys-lawyer
Conway confirms he’s out of Anthony case

Updated: Monday, 16 Aug 2010, 7:52 AM EDT
Published : Monday, 16 Aug 2010, 7:39 AM EDT

ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Attorney Brad Conway, who has been representing Casey Anthony’s parents Cindy and George Anthony, has confirmed he will not longer be their attorney.

Early Monday Conway told FOX 35's Holly Bristow this has nothing to do with the Anthony’s or anything they've done. Instead he said it has everything to do with Casey’s attorney José Baez.

Conway said that a motion filed by the defense last week made regarding documents on 4000 Texas Equusearch volunteers, Baez claimed that Conway was given unrestricted access to look at those documents but only if he got the Anthony’s to sign a waiver of conflict of interest.

Conway’s said that's not the case, the defense never spoke to him before filing the motion and now he could potentially be called as a witness by Texas Equusearch's attorney if the judge holds a hearing on the Texas Equusearch paperwork.

Texas Equusearch is fighting to keep Casey Anthony’s attorneys from getting unrestricted access to their search documents.

not only is the Dufense inept, they are liars and aren't afraid to lie in motions!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2010, 09:21:37 AM
 ::MonkeyCool::  I swear deep down that Cindy is doing everything in her power to destroy Casey.


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Post by: monkalicious on August 16, 2010, 09:21:43 AM
Hey, Sunny!  So glad to be back!  I was on a jury trial last week, and guess what it was about?  Legal Malpractice!  I snorted through my nose when the Judge announced it.  It will certainly come in handy when they nail Baez to the wall.
 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on August 16, 2010, 09:23:11 AM
::MonkeyCool::  I swear deep down that Cindy is doing everything in her power to destroy Casey.
I so agree.  (We need a monkey with a hypodermic needle and a gurney.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 09:25:44 AM
From Brad Conway's letter of resignation:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643776/detail.html

I will continue to support the Anthonys, will continue to attend hearings and the eventual trial and most importantly I will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.

Hi Desi...yep BC isn't going along with the Caylee is still alive or BOZO's lies.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 09:31:04 AM
Again, can someone please explain to me why G & C's lawyer was given access to TES documents. The Anthonys are not charged with this crime.....I just don't get it.

JMO, I think Mark Nejame had a lot of compassion for georgieboy and allowed this as a courtesy because georgieboy had to put up with sin-cin and her rants and raves... in that she believed BOZO when he says Caylee's remain were not there and the records could prove it.  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: can on August 16, 2010, 09:32:58 AM

I notice Brad Conway said the killing of Caylee, when he could of said the death of Caylee.  Nothing accidental about that.   Did ya hear that Cindy?!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 09:33:43 AM
::MonkeyCool::  I swear deep down that Cindy is doing everything in her power to destroy Casey.
I so agree.  (We need a monkey with a hypodermic needle and a gurney.)

I think so too.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 16, 2010, 09:34:07 AM
This morning's developments re: Brad Conway are confusing to say the least.

I found this helpful in trying to wrap my brain around it all:

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 09:34:09 AM
From Brad Conway's letter of resignation:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643776/detail.html

I will continue to support the Anthonys, will continue to attend hearings and the eventual trial and most importantly I will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.

Although he holds the A's blameless, I think he came up against a conflict of interest. On the surface it seems like defense vs. NeJame with Conway placed in the middle, but that wouldn't be a problem if the A's weren't solidy helping out the defense, by giving them false ammunition. Cindy put down in a letter for the defense to use that Conway was there to examine the TES documents as part of a deal with NeJame. And that they had withdrawn their waiver. So really, it's not just the defense that's lying, as Conway claims, but Cindy as well, since the defense is going on what she is telling them.

Yep, I agree.....there is more to this than BC is talking about....I questioned, if there was a waiver, why was it not attached as an exhibit instead of this so called statement by lying sin-cin...but then slapped myself  with a big DUH...that would be the right way to do it....not BOZO's way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: can on August 16, 2010, 09:34:55 AM
Thanks for all the links trim.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 09:39:14 AM
Hey, Sunny!  So glad to be back!  I was on a jury trial last week, and guess what it was about?  Legal Malpractice!  I snorted through my nose when the Judge announced it.  It will certainly come in handy when they nail Baez to the wall.
 ::MonkeyGavel::

I am glad to see you back....you hinted that the trial was gonna be interesting...LEGAL MALPRACTICE!    I love it!!   I can't wait to hear the details!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2010, 09:45:00 AM
Let's cut through all the BS, Brad. You are leaving the Anthonys because let's face it you don't want your reputation anymore ruined than it already is. Also you know darn well they are liars and you lied enough for them already. It sure took you awhile Brad to come to that conclusion, what happened you wake up one day and realize they are making fools of you? Took you long enough to figure that one out  ::MonkeyNoNo:: You have been made a BIG FOOL of, and everybody the Anthonys touch they make BIG FOOLS out of them.


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Post by: numbersgirl on August 16, 2010, 09:51:24 AM
Let's cut through all the BS, Brad. You are leaving the Anthonys because let's face it you don't want your reputation anymore ruined than it already is. Also you know darn well they are liars and you lied enough for them already. It sure took you awhile Brad to come to that conclusion, what happened you wake up one day and realize they are making fools of you? Took you long enough to figure that one out  ::MonkeyNoNo:: You have been made a BIG FOOL of, and everybody the Anthonys touch they make BIG FOOLS out of them.

ITA NoRose!  And one more thing I thought about.  I don't think Brad can handle being mixed up in any legal motions, etc. where Mark NeJame is on the other side!  He knows NeJame knows more about the Ants, Fla Law, and how to deal with scumbags than he ever will.  Smart guy, that Brad.    ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: can on August 16, 2010, 09:52:17 AM
This morning's developments re: Brad Conway are confusing to say the least.

I found this helpful in trying to wrap my brain around it all:

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

Thanks.  It was a good read.

I'm still confused though  ::MonkeyBike::  Striking that Cindy always seems to be in there like a dirty shirt. 

Fiction could not be stranger.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 09:53:28 AM
This morning's developments re: Brad Conway are confusing to say the least.

I found this helpful in trying to wrap my brain around it all:

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

thanks Desi and VAL, this does make things a bit clearer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: can on August 16, 2010, 09:54:13 AM
Let's cut through all the BS, Brad. You are leaving the Anthonys because let's face it you don't want your reputation anymore ruined than it already is. Also you know darn well they are liars and you lied enough for them already. It sure took you awhile Brad to come to that conclusion, what happened you wake up one day and realize they are making fools of you? Took you long enough to figure that one out  ::MonkeyNoNo:: You have been made a BIG FOOL of, and everybody the Anthonys touch they make BIG FOOLS out of them.

Yep...and they did it all for free. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2010, 09:56:05 AM
Let's cut through all the BS, Brad. You are leaving the Anthonys because let's face it you don't want your reputation anymore ruined than it already is. Also you know darn well they are liars and you lied enough for them already. It sure took you awhile Brad to come to that conclusion, what happened you wake up one day and realize they are making fools of you? Took you long enough to figure that one out  ::MonkeyNoNo:: You have been made a BIG FOOL of, and everybody the Anthonys touch they make BIG FOOLS out of them.

ITA NoRose!  And one more thing I thought about.  I don't think Brad can handle being mixed up in any legal motions, etc. where Mark NeJame is on the other side!  He knows NeJame knows more about the Ants, Fla Law, and how to deal with scumbags than he ever will.  Smart guy, that Brad.    ::MonkeyDevil::
I would just love to know why after going to school for so long to become a lawyer, and passing the bar that you want to throw it all away with clients like this? Makes no sense, as soon as the client goes against what you tell them, walk away.


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Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 09:56:16 AM
Let's cut through all the BS, Brad. You are leaving the Anthonys because let's face it you don't want your reputation anymore ruined than it already is. Also you know darn well they are liars and you lied enough for them already. It sure took you awhile Brad to come to that conclusion, what happened you wake up one day and realize they are making fools of you? Took you long enough to figure that one out  ::MonkeyNoNo:: You have been made a BIG FOOL of, and everybody the Anthonys touch they make BIG FOOLS out of them.

 :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2010, 09:56:46 AM
Let's cut through all the BS, Brad. You are leaving the Anthonys because let's face it you don't want your reputation anymore ruined than it already is. Also you know darn well they are liars and you lied enough for them already. It sure took you awhile Brad to come to that conclusion, what happened you wake up one day and realize they are making fools of you? Took you long enough to figure that one out  ::MonkeyNoNo:: You have been made a BIG FOOL of, and everybody the Anthonys touch they make BIG FOOLS out of them.

Yep...and they did it all for free. 
::MonkeyNoNo::  Well I know that I'm sitting tight waiting for the George and Cindy spin on all this  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2010, 09:57:31 AM
Let's cut through all the BS, Brad. You are leaving the Anthonys because let's face it you don't want your reputation anymore ruined than it already is. Also you know darn well they are liars and you lied enough for them already. It sure took you awhile Brad to come to that conclusion, what happened you wake up one day and realize they are making fools of you? Took you long enough to figure that one out  ::MonkeyNoNo:: You have been made a BIG FOOL of, and everybody the Anthonys touch they make BIG FOOLS out of them.

 :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
They are nothing but a bunch of fools the whole lot of them, with the exception of the Judge and the prosecutors.


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Post by: theboyzmom on August 16, 2010, 09:58:52 AM
Can someone put the Conway interview on the Today show in a different format - for some reason my computer is not liking it and I can not see it all the way through!  ::MonkeyMad::


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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 10:01:43 AM
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/08/16/cayleecasey-anthony-case-brad-conway-quits-george-and-cindy-anthony/
Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Brad Conway Quits George and Cindy Anthony
08/16/10


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 10:03:33 AM
Can someone put the Conway interview on the Today show in a different format - for some reason my computer is not liking it and I can not see it all the way through!  ::MonkeyMad::

It froze up on me too!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2010, 10:09:37 AM
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/08/16/cayleecasey-anthony-case-brad-conway-quits-george-and-cindy-anthony/
Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Brad Conway Quits George and Cindy Anthony
08/16/10
Everybody quits George and Cindy  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 10:12:57 AM
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/08/16/cayleecasey-anthony-case-brad-conway-quits-george-and-cindy-anthony/
Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Brad Conway Quits George and Cindy Anthony
08/16/10
Everybody quits George and Cindy  ::MonkeyCool::

 :smt045


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 16, 2010, 10:17:11 AM
WESH has a video report:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

In the accompanying written story, it says:

WESH 2 reporter Bob Kealing showed Baez Conway's resignation letter Monday. While Baez was on his way into a meeting, he said he plans to make a comment when the meeting is over.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 10:22:23 AM
WESH has a video report:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

In the accompanying written story, it says:

WESH 2 reporter Bob Kealing showed Baez Conway's resignation letter Monday. While Baez was on his way into a meeting, he said he plans to make a comment when the meeting is over.

thanks Desi....this is another one of those times when BOZO should say no comment and keep on walking...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2010, 10:25:10 AM
WESH has a video report:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

In the accompanying written story, it says:

WESH 2 reporter Bob Kealing showed Baez Conway's resignation letter Monday. While Baez was on his way into a meeting, he said he plans to make a comment when the meeting is over.

thanks Desi....this is another one of those times when BOZO should say no comment and keep on walking...
Thanks, Bozo has never met a microphone he didn't like.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 16, 2010, 10:27:17 AM
WESH has a video report:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

In the accompanying written story, it says:

WESH 2 reporter Bob Kealing showed Baez Conway's resignation letter Monday. While Baez was on his way into a meeting, he said he plans to make a comment when the meeting is over.

thanks Desi....this is another one of those times when BOZO should say no comment and keep on walking...
A silent Baez?  We should be so lucky.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on August 16, 2010, 10:31:04 AM
WESH has a video report:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

In the accompanying written story, it says:

WESH 2 reporter Bob Kealing showed Baez Conway's resignation letter Monday. While Baez was on his way into a meeting, he said he plans to make a comment when the meeting is over.

thanks Desi....this is another one of those times when BOZO should say no comment and keep on walking...
A silent Baez?  We should be so lucky.   ::MonkeyRoll::
HeeHee.  It's only when he is "punishing" Kathi Belich he is quiet. 
 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 10:31:24 AM
WESH has a video report:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

In the accompanying written story, it says:

WESH 2 reporter Bob Kealing showed Baez Conway's resignation letter Monday. While Baez was on his way into a meeting, he said he plans to make a comment when the meeting is over.

thanks Desi....this is another one of those times when BOZO should say no comment and keep on walking...
Thanks, Bozo has never met a microphone he didn't like.

so right you are....he opens his mouth and stupid jumps out!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 16, 2010, 10:32:47 AM
From Brad Conway's letter of resignation:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643776/detail.html

I will continue to support the Anthonys, will continue to attend hearings and the eventual trial and most importantly I will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.
Hi Desi...yep BC isn't going along with the Caylee is still alive or BOZO's lies.....
  ::HelloKitty:: Sunny --  Right.  I thought it was highly significant for him to word it that way. 

Cindy says she is not convinced Caylee is dead.
Cindy says the DNA proof is "junk science."
Cindy says if Caylee IS dead, it could have been an accident.

She just went on national TV and said this.  She said it under oath from the witness stand at the last hearing. 

Brad used the phrase "the killing of Caylee" very pointedly and deliberately, IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 10:33:52 AM
WESH has a video report:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

In the accompanying written story, it says:

WESH 2 reporter Bob Kealing showed Baez Conway's resignation letter Monday. While Baez was on his way into a meeting, he said he plans to make a comment when the meeting is over.

thanks Desi....this is another one of those times when BOZO should say no comment and keep on walking...
A silent Baez?  We should be so lucky.   ::MonkeyRoll::

hahahahahaha...we know that's not gonna happen....he can't help himself!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 10:34:31 AM
WESH has a video report:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

In the accompanying written story, it says:

WESH 2 reporter Bob Kealing showed Baez Conway's resignation letter Monday. While Baez was on his way into a meeting, he said he plans to make a comment when the meeting is over.

thanks Desi....this is another one of those times when BOZO should say no comment and keep on walking...
A silent Baez?  We should be so lucky.   ::MonkeyRoll::
HeeHee.  It's only when he is "punishing" Kathi Belich he is quiet. 
 ::MonkeyDevil::

Monka!! ::MonkeyJnBox::


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2010, 10:34:36 AM
From Brad Conway's letter of resignation:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643776/detail.html

I will continue to support the Anthonys, will continue to attend hearings and the eventual trial and most importantly I will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.
Hi Desi...yep BC isn't going along with the Caylee is still alive or BOZO's lies.....
  ::HelloKitty:: Sunny --  Right.  I thought it was highly significant for him to word it that way. 

Cindy says she is not convinced Caylee is dead.
Cindy says the DNA proof is "junk science."
Cindy says if Caylee IS dead, it could have been an accident.

She just went on national TV and said this.  She said it under oath from the witness stand at the last hearing. 

Brad used the phrase "the killing of Caylee" very pointedly and deliberately, IMO.
Yes, and I'll bet that was the last straw for Brad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 10:37:21 AM
WESH has a video report:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

In the accompanying written story, it says:

WESH 2 reporter Bob Kealing showed Baez Conway's resignation letter Monday. While Baez was on his way into a meeting, he said he plans to make a comment when the meeting is over.

thanks Desi....this is another one of those times when BOZO should say no comment and keep on walking...
A silent Baez?  We should be so lucky.   ::MonkeyRoll::
HeeHee.  It's only when he is "punishing" Kathi Belich he is quiet. 
 ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyJnBox::  So true.I hope she corners him up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 10:38:50 AM
From Brad Conway's letter of resignation:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643776/detail.html

I will continue to support the Anthonys, will continue to attend hearings and the eventual trial and most importantly I will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.
Hi Desi...yep BC isn't going along with the Caylee is still alive or BOZO's lies.....
  ::HelloKitty:: Sunny --  Right.  I thought it was highly significant for him to word it that way. 

Cindy says she is not convinced Caylee is dead.
Cindy says the DNA proof is "junk science."
Cindy says if Caylee IS dead, it could have been an accident.

She just went on national TV and said this.  She said it under oath from the witness stand at the last hearing. 

Brad used the phrase "the killing of Caylee" very pointedly and deliberately, IMO.
Yes, and I'll bet that was the last straw for Brad.

I think so too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 16, 2010, 10:43:50 AM
Sources: George, Cindy Anthony's Attorney Quitting


http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

 ::MonkeyEek::  No wonder CinCin & George appeared saturated TV last week ... thay always happens just before some big development--in my opinion.  They must have known this was coming, imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2010, 10:44:43 AM
Sources: George, Cindy Anthony's Attorney Quitting


http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

 ::MonkeyEek::  No wonder CinCin & George appeared saturated TV last week ... thay always happens just before some big development--in my opinion.  They must have known this was coming, imo.
::MonkeyCool::  Now what lawyer will the scrape up from the bottom of the barrel?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 16, 2010, 10:45:02 AM
Sources: George, Cindy Anthony's Attorney Quitting


http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

 ::MonkeyEek::  No wonder CinCin & George appeared saturated TV last week ... thay always happens just before some big development--in my opinion.  They must have known this was coming, imo.

** appearances saturated TV**


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 10:45:09 AM
From Brad Conway's letter of resignation:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643776/detail.html

I will continue to support the Anthonys, will continue to attend hearings and the eventual trial and most importantly I will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.
Hi Desi...yep BC isn't going along with the Caylee is still alive or BOZO's lies.....
  ::HelloKitty:: Sunny --  Right.  I thought it was highly significant for him to word it that way. 

Cindy says she is not convinced Caylee is dead.
Cindy says the DNA proof is "junk science."
Cindy says if Caylee IS dead, it could have been an accident.

She just went on national TV and said this.  She said it under oath from the witness stand at the last hearing. 

Brad used the phrase "the killing of Caylee" very pointedly and deliberately, IMO.

I agree..BC's statement was carefully worded. In am not sure and will check with an attorney friend, but his stated reason for resigning is IMO an excuse, not a reason.  He was representing the A's....not Kc.  I believe he may have been looking for an excuse and found it.  He states he will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.  ????  I must be confused....what has he done thus far to search for the truth?  IMO this is all lawyer talk for let me try to confuse you while I get the hell outta Dodge!!  He will continue to attend the hearing and the eventual trial...of course he will, it's free advertising for him, he keeps his name and face out in public view.

With regret I am forced to resign as George and Cindy Anthonys attorney. The defense motion filed on August 9, 2010 contains allegations that are not in fact true. As an officer of the court I cannot stand idly by knowing allegations involving me have been misstated. I am now a witness to an inaccurate legal pleading filed in our court system. As such, I cannot continue in good conscience as a legal representative. George and Cindy Anthony have done nothing improper, it is the failure of the defense to verify the facts alleged in their motion that forces my withdrawal. I will continue to support the Anthonys, will continue to attend hearings and the eventual trial and most importantly I will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 16, 2010, 10:45:57 AM
Sources: George, Cindy Anthony's Attorney Quitting


http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

 ::MonkeyEek::  No wonder CinCin & George appeared saturated TV last week ... thay always happens just before some big development--in my opinion.  They must have known this was coming, imo.
::MonkeyCool::  Now what lawyer will the scrape up from the bottom of the barrel?

They all should run for cover!!!! lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 10:47:57 AM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/08/casey-anthony-brad-conway-made-his-announcement-on-today-for-a-reason.html
Casey Anthony: Brad Conway made his announcement on ‘Today’ for a reason
Uncategorized — posted by halboedeker on August, 16 2010 9:50 AM
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Video link to Today Show

Why would Brad Conway announce this morning on “Today” that he is no longer representing George and Cindy Anthony?

The same reason that Casey Anthony’s parents appeared on the NBC show on Friday. The show has worked to gain their trust behind the scenes, and the Anthonys will turn to people they feel comfortable with — not people who will put them on the defensive.

There are bonuses, too, in talking to ”Today.” By going there, a guest reaches the biggest audience of the morning programs. The show also flies guests to New York for interviews; Ann Curry questioned Conway in the studio.

So Conway visited “Today” exclusively to announce that he is withdrawing from representing the Anthonys after 19 months. He cited a defense motion that he says incorrectly states he was given special treatment in viewing Texas EquuSearch documents.

Conway said he had no choice in the matter; he said he had become a witness to  misstated pleadings. “They misrepresented my role, they misrepresented my actions,” Conway said of the defense.

Conway wouldn’t comment on the abilities of Jose Baez, who is representing Casey Anthony. She is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

But Conway wondered what was the harm in letting George and Cindy Anthony see their daughter in jail and tell her they love her. Conway said that Baez is the reason the Anthonys haven’t visited Casey, who is in the Orange County Jail.

Conway wasn’t talking about Baez, but George Anthony expressed his doubts about his daughter’s attorney in an interview with NBC’s Kerry Sanders last week. George Anthony said that some days he has confidence in Baez; on other days, George questions Baez’s tactics.

Evidently, the Anthonys have few doubts about “Today.”


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2010, 10:47:58 AM
The killing of Caylee Marie, this is Brad's wake up call to Cindy. Knock off this alive Caylee already, all it does is make you look crazier then you already are. Time to use another strategy Cindy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2010, 10:48:53 AM
Sources: George, Cindy Anthony's Attorney Quitting


http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

 ::MonkeyEek::  No wonder CinCin & George appeared saturated TV last week ... thay always happens just before some big development--in my opinion.  They must have known this was coming, imo.
::MonkeyCool::  Now what lawyer will the scrape up from the bottom of the barrel?

They all should run for cover!!!! lol
Some misfit lawyer will be more then happy to service George and Cindy  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 10:48:56 AM
Sources: George, Cindy Anthony's Attorney Quitting


http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

 ::MonkeyEek::  No wonder CinCin & George appeared saturated TV last week ... thay always happens just before some big development--in my opinion.  They must have known this was coming, imo.

I agree.....in fact, I'd be willing to bet he was there with them...he usually is when they are in NYC...and he was there this morning...so I am thinking he was with them and stayed over for his little air time. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for all....free flights, limos rides, meals in the finest restaurants, spending money, gotta have spending money in NYC ya know.....all paid for by the TODAY SHOW


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 10:49:44 AM
Sources: George, Cindy Anthony's Attorney Quitting


http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

 ::MonkeyEek::  No wonder CinCin & George appeared saturated TV last week ... thay always happens just before some big development--in my opinion.  They must have known this was coming, imo.
::MonkeyCool::  Now what lawyer will the scrape up from the bottom of the barrel?

some bleeding heart will step up for the media benefits....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 16, 2010, 10:50:44 AM
Wow is right!
I hope my power stays on and I definately need more coffee.   ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2010, 10:50:49 AM
Sources: George, Cindy Anthony's Attorney Quitting


http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

 ::MonkeyEek::  No wonder CinCin & George appeared saturated TV last week ... thay always happens just before some big development--in my opinion.  They must have known this was coming, imo.
::MonkeyCool::  Now what lawyer will the scrape up from the bottom of the barrel?

some bleeding heart will step up for the media benefits....
Maybe Jayne Weintraub can take a stab at it  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 16, 2010, 11:04:23 AM
::MonkeyCool::  I swear deep down that Cindy is doing everything in her power to destroy Casey.

And in doing so, she's taking herself down with her, IMO, but doesn't see it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 16, 2010, 11:04:56 AM
So Rosebud finally crossed the line with the whole TES filing and saying that they had to sign a waiver(or whatever the term was)  and Conway will no longer stand behind her land of Caseytopia.  This is going to be very interesting as she has now proven in the courts that she is a LIAR,  All I want for Christmas is  to see her do the perp walk  ::MonkeyGavel::    ::MonkeyGavel::   ::MonkeyGavel::

Attorney in Casey Anthony's murder case steps down

(CNN) -- An attorney in Casey Anthony's murder case is stepping down, according to a statement released early Monday.

Brad Conway, the attorney who represents Casey's parents George and Cindy Anthony, said he is being "forced to resign", citing allegations in an August 9 motion filed by the defense that he says are not true.

"As an officer of the court I cannot stand idly by knowing allegations involving me have been misstated. I am now a witness to an inaccurate legal pleading," said Conway.


"As such, I cannot continue in good conscience as a legal representative."

A call to lead defense attorney Jose Baez was not immediately returned.

Casey Anthony is charged with capital murder in the death of her 2-year-old daughter Caylee. The girl was reported missing in July 2008, and investigators found her body after five months of intense searches and speculation.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/16/anthony.attorney.resignation/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 16, 2010, 11:05:53 AM
Sources: George, Cindy Anthony's Attorney Quitting


http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

 ::MonkeyEek::  No wonder CinCin & George appeared saturated TV last week ... thay always happens just before some big development--in my opinion.  They must have known this was coming, imo.
::MonkeyCool::  Now what lawyer will the scrape up from the bottom of the barrel?

Winecrap?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2010, 11:11:41 AM
::MonkeyCool::  I swear deep down that Cindy is doing everything in her power to destroy Casey.

And in doing so, she's taking herself down with her, IMO, but doesn't see it.
She doesn't see it, is there any family member that sees this, but I suppose it would be a waste of time to tell her anything.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 16, 2010, 11:13:07 AM
This morning's developments re: Brad Conway are confusing to say the least.

I found this helpful in trying to wrap my brain around it all:

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

 ::MonkeyBike::  Five stars for Val!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2010, 11:13:24 AM
Sources: George, Cindy Anthony's Attorney Quitting


http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

 ::MonkeyEek::  No wonder CinCin & George appeared saturated TV last week ... thay always happens just before some big development--in my opinion.  They must have known this was coming, imo.
::MonkeyCool::  Now what lawyer will the scrape up from the bottom of the barrel?

Winecrap?
We are thinking alike, I suggested her on the previous page  ::MonkeyCool:: And better yet, she lives in Florida. It would be the battle of the big mouths, Jayne and Cindy  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2010, 11:15:20 AM
I'm patiently waiting to hear from Baez  ::MonkeyJnBox::  And waiting, waiting for George and Cindy, and the introduction of a new lawyer  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 11:15:49 AM
Sources: George, Cindy Anthony's Attorney Quitting


http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

 ::MonkeyEek::  No wonder CinCin & George appeared saturated TV last week ... thay always happens just before some big development--in my opinion.  They must have known this was coming, imo.
::MonkeyCool::  Now what lawyer will the scrape up from the bottom of the barrel?

Winecrap?

 ::MonkeyShocked:: The name of which we do not speak.The wrath of Nut will be upon us.Nut will give us one of these....   :smt075    ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 11:17:29 AM
Sources: George, Cindy Anthony's Attorney Quitting


http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

 ::MonkeyEek::  No wonder CinCin & George appeared saturated TV last week ... thay always happens just before some big development--in my opinion.  They must have known this was coming, imo.
::MonkeyCool::  Now what lawyer will the scrape up from the bottom of the barrel?

Winecrap?
We are thinking alike, I suggested her on the previous page  ::MonkeyCool:: And better yet, she lives in Florida. It would be the battle of the big mouths, Jayne and Cindy  ::MonkeyTongue::

All plant life in Florida will be nonexistent due to lack of oxygen.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2010, 11:18:12 AM
Weintraub would be the logical choice, she likes the Anthonys, and she thinks the case against Casey isn't good.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2010, 11:18:48 AM
Sources: George, Cindy Anthony's Attorney Quitting


http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

 ::MonkeyEek::  No wonder CinCin & George appeared saturated TV last week ... thay always happens just before some big development--in my opinion.  They must have known this was coming, imo.
::MonkeyCool::  Now what lawyer will the scrape up from the bottom of the barrel?

Winecrap?
We are thinking alike, I suggested her on the previous page  ::MonkeyCool:: And better yet, she lives in Florida. It would be the battle of the big mouths, Jayne and Cindy  ::MonkeyTongue::

All plant life in Florida will be nonexistent due to lack of oxygen.   ::MonkeyTongue::
::MonkeyDance::  Can you just imagine these two blowhards screaming away?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 16, 2010, 11:18:53 AM
Let's cut through all the BS, Brad. You are leaving the Anthonys because let's face it you don't want your reputation anymore ruined than it already is. Also you know darn well they are liars and you lied enough for them already. It sure took you awhile Brad to come to that conclusion, what happened you wake up one day and realize they are making fools of you? Took you long enough to figure that one out  ::MonkeyNoNo:: You have been made a BIG FOOL of, and everybody the Anthonys touch they make BIG FOOLS out of them.

ITA NoRose!  And one more thing I thought about.  I don't think Brad can handle being mixed up in any legal motions, etc. where Mark NeJame is on the other side!  He knows NeJame knows more about the Ants, Fla Law, and how to deal with scumbags than he ever will.  Smart guy, that Brad.    ::MonkeyDevil::
I would just love to know why after going to school for so long to become a lawyer, and passing the bar that you want to throw it all away with clients like this? Makes no sense, as soon as the client goes against what you tell them, walk away.

So true if you value your reputation;  No doubt, loose cannons such as the Anthonys don't come around but once in a gazillion years, I'm thinking. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 16, 2010, 11:19:05 AM
I'm patiently waiting to hear from Baez  ::MonkeyJnBox::  And waiting, waiting for George and Cindy, and the introduction of a new lawyer  ::MonkeyJnBox::

There is no doubt there will be a belly crawler that will step up to the plate.  I am sure her special velcro media people are helping her right now shopping out for a new lawyer and more interviews to try to defuse this one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 16, 2010, 11:19:32 AM
Sources: George, Cindy Anthony's Attorney Quitting


http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

 ::MonkeyEek::  No wonder CinCin & George appeared saturated TV last week ... thay always happens just before some big development--in my opinion.  They must have known this was coming, imo.
::MonkeyCool::  Now what lawyer will the scrape up from the bottom of the barrel?

Winecrap?
We are thinking alike, I suggested her on the previous page  ::MonkeyCool:: And better yet, she lives in Florida. It would be the battle of the big mouths, Jayne and Cindy  ::MonkeyTongue::

LOLOLOL!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 16, 2010, 11:23:11 AM
WESH has a video report:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

In the accompanying written story, it says:

WESH 2 reporter Bob Kealing showed Baez Conway's resignation letter Monday. While Baez was on his way into a meeting, he said he plans to make a comment when the meeting is over.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  As soon as he makes something up.  Should be juicey-lol.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 16, 2010, 11:23:23 AM
Today show video

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/38721272#38721272


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 16, 2010, 11:23:34 AM
And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

me too..... ::rhino:: ::rhino::

No, I don't think he's the father either.  Just haven't seen an official FBI report eliminating him.  I don't know who these people on the internet are or how much training, if any, they've had.  Just words on a screen until something official is released.

I have been trying to download that report that Desi linked since yesterday and it is not up anymore. I have searched the other sites for it and have not found it yet, so if anyone has another link I would really appreciate it since I have already called my friend in Michigan and asked her to to over the DNA results. I want to make sure it specifically said George and see HOW they took the DNA if it was because there are a number of ways to beat a DNA when the subject is unwilling so I am interested if it was a "controlled" sample.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: mizjay on August 16, 2010, 11:24:08 AM
I'm patiently waiting to hear from Baez  ::MonkeyJnBox::  And waiting, waiting for George and Cindy, and the introduction of a new lawyer  ::MonkeyJnBox::

There is no doubt there will be a belly crawler that will step up to the plate.  I am sure her special velcro media people are helping her right now shopping out for a new lawyer and more interviews to try to defuse this one.
Hmmm, good point. It's to their "media agent"'s advantage to help them find much more flamboyant reps, more media savvy. Should be interesting!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 16, 2010, 11:24:20 AM
Sources: George, Cindy Anthony's Attorney Quitting


http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

 ::MonkeyEek::  No wonder CinCin & George appeared saturated TV last week ... thay always happens just before some big development--in my opinion.  They must have known this was coming, imo.
::MonkeyCool::  Now what lawyer will the scrape up from the bottom of the barrel?

Winecrap?
We are thinking alike, I suggested her on the previous page  ::MonkeyCool:: And better yet, she lives in Florida. It would be the battle of the big mouths, Jayne and Cindy  ::MonkeyTongue::

All plant life in Florida will be nonexistent due to lack of oxygen.   ::MonkeyTongue::

LOLOLOL!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 16, 2010, 11:24:45 AM
WESH has a video report:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

In the accompanying written story, it says:

WESH 2 reporter Bob Kealing showed Baez Conway's resignation letter Monday. While Baez was on his way into a meeting, he said he plans to make a comment when the meeting is over.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  As soon as he makes something up.  Should be juicey-lol.

and calms down The Jar who must be ever so happy this is his retirement swan song.   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 16, 2010, 11:29:07 AM
From Brad Conway's letter of resignation:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643776/detail.html

I will continue to support the Anthonys, will continue to attend hearings and the eventual trial and most importantly I will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.
Hi Desi...yep BC isn't going along with the Caylee is still alive or BOZO's lies.....
  ::HelloKitty:: Sunny --  Right.  I thought it was highly significant for him to word it that way. 

Cindy says she is not convinced Caylee is dead.
Cindy says the DNA proof is "junk science."
Cindy says if Caylee IS dead, it could have been an accident.

She just went on national TV and said this.  She said it under oath from the witness stand at the last hearing. 

Brad used the phrase "the killing of Caylee" very pointedly and deliberately, IMO.

He punctuated his 'bread & butter' resignation letter brilliantly with an exclamation point, imo.  Well done.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 11:30:01 AM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Cindy,George Anthony's Attorney Quits Due To Jose Baez Lies
08/16/10


Kronk Submits Proof Of Whereabouts Before Finding Caylee
08/16/10


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 16, 2010, 11:30:10 AM
Brad Conway Resignation Letter

With regret I am forced to resign as George and Cindy Anthonys attorney. The defense motion filed on August 9, 2010 contains allegations that are not in fact true. As an officer of the court I cannot stand idly by knowing allegations involving me have been misstated. I am now a witness to an innacurate legal pleading filed in our court system. As such, I cannot continue in good conscience as a legal representative. George and Cindy Anthony have done nothing improper, it is the failure of the defense to verify the facts alleged in their motion that forces my withdrawal. I will continue to support the Anthonys, will continue to attend hearings and the eventual trial and most importantly I will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.

Bradley A. Conway, Esq. Law Office of Bradley A. Conway 189 S. Orange Ave. Suite 1850 Orlando, Fl. Office: 407-246-0803 Fax: 407-386-3114

http://www.wesh.com/r/24643776/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 16, 2010, 11:30:40 AM
WESH has a video report:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

In the accompanying written story, it says:

WESH 2 reporter Bob Kealing showed Baez Conway's resignation letter Monday. While Baez was on his way into a meeting, he said he plans to make a comment when the meeting is over.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  As soon as he makes something up.  Should be juicey-lol.

and calms down The Jar who must be ever so happy this is his retirement swan song.   ::MonkeyJnBox::

LOL!!!  The Jar is going out with a bang!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 16, 2010, 11:32:15 AM
So Rosebud finally crossed the line with the whole TES filing and saying that they had to sign a waiver(or whatever the term was)  and Conway will no longer stand behind her land of Caseytopia.  This is going to be very interesting as she has now proven in the courts that she is a LIAR,  All I want for Christmas is  to see her do the perp walk  ::MonkeyGavel::    ::MonkeyGavel::   ::MonkeyGavel::

Attorney in Casey Anthony's murder case steps down

(CNN) -- An attorney in Casey Anthony's murder case is stepping down, according to a statement released early Monday.

Brad Conway, the attorney who represents Casey's parents George and Cindy Anthony, said he is being "forced to resign", citing allegations in an August 9 motion filed by the defense that he says are not true.

"As an officer of the court I cannot stand idly by knowing allegations involving me have been misstated. I am now a witness to an inaccurate legal pleading," said Conway.


"As such, I cannot continue in good conscience as a legal representative."

A call to lead defense attorney Jose Baez was not immediately returned.

Casey Anthony is charged with capital murder in the death of her 2-year-old daughter Caylee. The girl was reported missing in July 2008, and investigators found her body after five months of intense searches and speculation.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/16/anthony.attorney.resignation/

I am interested in how the judge is going to tolerate this. Another BOZO lie in his court which forces an attorney on the case to resign............that will not sit well with the judge I bet.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 16, 2010, 11:35:49 AM
Weintraub would be the logical choice, she likes the Anthonys, and she thinks the case against Casey isn't good.

Her obnoxiousness will prolly be a 'turn on' for George. lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Irish Monkey on August 16, 2010, 11:36:21 AM
I'm going to share something here.  I have a brother currently incarcerated as a convicted SO.  I am VERY aware of the dynamics of the family...the denial, the justifications, the grief.  I have a parent who is still supportive of him.  But I can honestly say, that when he came up for parole, and there was lobbying from within the family to write letters of recommendation for him, I did the opposite. 

So I guess I have some insight, and or empathy for some of the players in this circus, but in no way could I EVER cover up, or lie to benefit a relative I know had done something heinous.  It has caused many family conflicts, but in the end, I gotta live with ME.

That's what I'm talkin' about- it's comments like yours that keep SM my favorite forum. I think if put in your situation I would have thought it through and done the same thing you did. If I was the mom of the person charged and/or convicted of a really bad crime, I also think I'd come to the same conclusion, but I'm not entirely sure, I also pray I never have to find out. Being a mom I have tried my best raising my kids to be kind, caring, respectful, productive citizens, but even with giving it my all I can still think of many times I would have loved a do over-lol hindsight sure is 20/20, too bad moving forward isn't.
I still do think when it comes to serious crimes, like killing a child, the accused's parents sit in the worst position-knowing they are the sole reason the person who committed the crime exists, combined with questioning their parenting, where they went so wrong, has to be total Hell.   

Anyway..... ::MonkeyHaHa:: being in agreement ,with you, isn't why I want to clap and yell YES ::MonkeyDance:: though!!!! but rather because your comment could easily make a difference. This forum is read by so-so many people and your honesty, down to your going against your family's wishes, says it's okay to take a different stance than expected by family, especially when it's one they believe in and can easily live with.
Your story of not writing to the parole board could easily be the lightbulb that goes off and the deciding factor for someone else to put their pen down, before writing a parole recommendation for someone they doubted even should be paroled. We may never know but their unwritten recommendation might be all that stands between that potential parolee and their next victim.



I'm many pages back and reading to catch up, but I just wanted to express my deepest gratitude for your thoughts.  I so appreciate the kindness, honesty and compassion of the monkeys.  Shy or not!    ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 11:37:17 AM
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2010/08/brad-conway-out-as-attorney-for-george.html
Monday, August 16, 2010
Brad Conway Out As Attorney For George and Cindy Anthony


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 16, 2010, 11:37:39 AM
So Rosebud finally crossed the line with the whole TES filing and saying that they had to sign a waiver(or whatever the term was)  and Conway will no longer stand behind her land of Caseytopia.  This is going to be very interesting as she has now proven in the courts that she is a LIAR,  All I want for Christmas is  to see her do the perp walk  ::MonkeyGavel::    ::MonkeyGavel::   ::MonkeyGavel::

Attorney in Casey Anthony's murder case steps down

(CNN) -- An attorney in Casey Anthony's murder case is stepping down, according to a statement released early Monday.

Brad Conway, the attorney who represents Casey's parents George and Cindy Anthony, said he is being "forced to resign", citing allegations in an August 9 motion filed by the defense that he says are not true.

"As an officer of the court I cannot stand idly by knowing allegations involving me have been misstated. I am now a witness to an inaccurate legal pleading," said Conway.


"As such, I cannot continue in good conscience as a legal representative."

A call to lead defense attorney Jose Baez was not immediately returned.

Casey Anthony is charged with capital murder in the death of her 2-year-old daughter Caylee. The girl was reported missing in July 2008, and investigators found her body after five months of intense searches and speculation.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/16/anthony.attorney.resignation/

I am interested in how the judge is going to tolerate this. Another BOZO lie in his court which forces an attorney on the case to resign............that will not sit well with the judge I bet.

I have been wondering that as well.  First his "loss of memory" over the inmate call and knowing it was recorded and now another lawyer claiming false information in a motion.  Sanctions?  room for appeal now?  bar complaint?  Bobo must be loved by his fellow bar members right now.  This leaves lots of room for Rosebud to throw Bobo under the bus if her precious spawn does not walk out to help with her foundation next year. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 16, 2010, 11:44:30 AM
Fate of Central Florida mom could hinge on judge's ruling on death penalty
Updated: 9:41 a.m. Monday, Aug. 16, 2010
Posted: 9:07 a.m. Monday, Aug. 16, 2010

<snipped>

"This case falls far from being a death case," said Jose Baez, who represents Anthony, accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Marie. "They don't know how she (Caylee) died. They don't know when. They don't know why. Before you take someone's life, you should have all the answers."

Terry Lenamon once worked for Anthony's defense team and is a veteran of at least eight death-penalty cases and 20 other first-degree-murder cases. He agrees Anthony shouldn't be facing a potential death sentence. Rather, he said, the defense should have reached a plea agreement earlier in the case.

Recent court documents submitted by the defense suggest that very early on, Anthony was offered a 10-year prison sentence in exchange for telling authorities where Caylee's remains were located. True or not, no deal ever emerged. Baez would not discuss the issue.

Now, Lenamon insists, "This is never going to reach death. It's just not going to happen," despite the politics, personalities and media attention surrounding the case.


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime/fate-of-central-florida-mom-could-hinge-on-861718.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: cookie on August 16, 2010, 11:46:41 AM
does anyone besides me think that Conway resigned in part because of the A holes going on the tv shows and spewing their lies and vermin and he doesn't want to be an attorney to clients that he can not control? as in, don't do interviews on shows saying things that can later be used against you?
I think that Brad had just had enough of the A's and is using the Baez thing as another way to get out of representing them ?
Will be interesting to see who does step up to represent the Ants now...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: akmom on August 16, 2010, 11:47:11 AM

    You cannot make this stuff up......another one out of the clown car.....poor
Caylee. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 16, 2010, 11:47:20 AM
So Rosebud finally crossed the line with the whole TES filing and saying that they had to sign a waiver(or whatever the term was)  and Conway will no longer stand behind her land of Caseytopia.  This is going to be very interesting as she has now proven in the courts that she is a LIAR,  All I want for Christmas is  to see her do the perp walk  ::MonkeyGavel::    ::MonkeyGavel::   ::MonkeyGavel::

Attorney in Casey Anthony's murder case steps down

(CNN) -- An attorney in Casey Anthony's murder case is stepping down, according to a statement released early Monday.

Brad Conway, the attorney who represents Casey's parents George and Cindy Anthony, said he is being "forced to resign", citing allegations in an August 9 motion filed by the defense that he says are not true.

"As an officer of the court I cannot stand idly by knowing allegations involving me have been misstated. I am now a witness to an inaccurate legal pleading," said Conway.


"As such, I cannot continue in good conscience as a legal representative."

A call to lead defense attorney Jose Baez was not immediately returned.

Casey Anthony is charged with capital murder in the death of her 2-year-old daughter Caylee. The girl was reported missing in July 2008, and investigators found her body after five months of intense searches and speculation.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/16/anthony.attorney.resignation/

I am interested in how the judge is going to tolerate this. Another BOZO lie in his court which forces an attorney on the case to resign............that will not sit well with the judge I bet.

This should get really interesting, as Judge Perry has the utmost respect for the Law and doesn't think playing frivolous games in court is amusing;  But---if you think about it--wasn't Baez using in his motion what CinCin wrote concerning that waiver?  So the buck, really [ technically ], stops with CinCin... ????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on August 16, 2010, 11:50:29 AM
And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

me too..... ::rhino:: ::rhino::

No, I don't think he's the father either.  Just haven't seen an official FBI report eliminating him.  I don't know who these people on the internet are or how much training, if any, they've had.  Just words on a screen until something official is released.

I have been trying to download that report that Desi linked since yesterday and it is not up anymore. I have searched the other sites for it and have not found it yet, so if anyone has another link I would really appreciate it since I have already called my friend in Michigan and asked her to to over the DNA results. I want to make sure it specifically said George and see HOW they took the DNA if it was because there are a number of ways to beat a DNA when the subject is unwilling so I am interested if it was a "controlled" sample.


That link is working fine for me. I'm using mozilla firefox, you might try that if you're not using it already.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147519/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 16, 2010, 11:50:38 AM
Apologies if this has been mentioned already but Simon Barrett [ August 15 ] has the reason why Jesse Grund's depo was cancelled---Baez & Co. forgot to serve Jesse with the papers.  Scroll down several paragraphs where Simon mentions it in his summary:

http://www.bloggernews.net/125077

Good Morning Monks!  Ono, thanks!!  this is a great way to start my day! ::MonkeyDevil::

Without doubt the most humorous event of the week was the non-depo of Richard and Jessie Grund by Baez and the kids. The news outlets had the story, but not the detail. All that was reported was that they had been canceled. In todays program we shared the gory details. Someone in the illustrious Baez operation forgot the minor detail of actually serving Jessie Grund with the papers! For months Baez has been squawking about the Grunds, yet he forgets to actually invite Jessie to the party? Of course now that he is on the Tax Payers dime, I guess that he has throttled back his level of activity.

OMG - I had not realized that.............BOZO is like watching a car wreck in the distance in slow motion; seeing the cars all spin and then wondering when you will hear & see the crash.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 16, 2010, 11:53:24 AM
does anyone besides me think that Conway resigned in part because of the A holes going on the tv shows and spewing their lies and vermin and he doesn't want to be an attorney to clients that he can not control? as in, don't do interviews on shows saying things that can later be used against you?
I think that Brad had just had enough of the A's and is using the Baez thing as another way to get out of representing them ?
Will be interesting to see who does step up to represent the Ants now...

If they had been truthful from the beginning they would NOT NEED an attorney.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 16, 2010, 11:55:52 AM
Fate of Central Florida mom could hinge on judge's ruling on death penalty
Updated: 9:41 a.m. Monday, Aug. 16, 2010
Posted: 9:07 a.m. Monday, Aug. 16, 2010

<snipped>

"This case falls far from being a death case," said Jose Baez, who represents Anthony, accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Marie. "They don't know how she (Caylee) died. They don't know when. They don't know why. Before you take someone's life, you should have all the answers."

Terry Lenamon once worked for Anthony's defense team and is a veteran of at least eight death-penalty cases and 20 other first-degree-murder cases. He agrees Anthony shouldn't be facing a potential death sentence. Rather, he said, the defense should have reached a plea agreement earlier in the case.

Recent court documents submitted by the defense suggest that very early on, Anthony was offered a 10-year prison sentence in exchange for telling authorities where Caylee's remains were located. True or not, no deal ever emerged. Baez would not discuss the issue.

Now, Lenamon insists, "This is never going to reach death. It's just not going to happen," despite the politics, personalities and media attention surrounding the case.


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime/fate-of-central-florida-mom-could-hinge-on-861718.html

More BS............both judges have already ruled on the DP aspect of the case...........SHUT UP Lenamon and tell BOZO to do SOMETHING right for a change if you have such intelligence and insight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: cookie on August 16, 2010, 11:56:16 AM
does anyone besides me think that Conway resigned in part because of the A holes going on the tv shows and spewing their lies and vermin and he doesn't want to be an attorney to clients that he can not control? as in, don't do interviews on shows saying things that can later be used against you?
I think that Brad had just had enough of the A's and is using the Baez thing as another way to get out of representing them ?
Will be interesting to see who does step up to represent the Ants now...

If they had been truthful from the beginning they would NOT NEED an attorney.

for sure!!  can't remember any other grand parents who have had to hire an attorney because their grand child was missing or murdered...can anyone else recall that happening?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 16, 2010, 11:58:52 AM
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2010/08/brad-conway-out-as-attorney-for-george.html
Monday, August 16, 2010
Brad Conway Out As Attorney For George and Cindy Anthony


Always helps me clarify--thanks!!    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 16, 2010, 11:59:13 AM
does anyone besides me think that Conway resigned in part because of the A holes going on the tv shows and spewing their lies and vermin and he doesn't want to be an attorney to clients that he can not control? as in, don't do interviews on shows saying things that can later be used against you?
I think that Brad had just had enough of the A's and is using the Baez thing as another way to get out of representing them ?
Will be interesting to see who does step up to represent the Ants now...

If they had been truthful from the beginning they would NOT NEED an attorney.

for sure!!  can't remember any other grand parents who have had to hire an attorney because their grand child was missing or murdered...can anyone else recall that happening?

Nope. Can not think of one case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: akmom on August 16, 2010, 12:00:40 PM
Apologies if this has been mentioned already but Simon Barrett [ August 15 ] has the reason why Jesse Grund's depo was cancelled---Baez & Co. forgot to serve Jesse with the papers.  Scroll down several paragraphs where Simon mentions it in his summary:

http://www.bloggernews.net/125077

Good Morning Monks!  Ono, thanks!!  this is a great way to start my day! ::MonkeyDevil::

Without doubt the most humorous event of the week was the non-depo of Richard and Jessie Grund by Baez and the kids. The news outlets had the story, but not the detail. All that was reported was that they had been canceled. In todays program we shared the gory details. Someone in the illustrious Baez operation forgot the minor detail of actually serving Jessie Grund with the papers! For months Baez has been squawking about the Grunds, yet he forgets to actually invite Jessie to the party? Of course now that he is on the Tax Payers dime, I guess that he has throttled back his level of activity.

OMG - I had not realized that.............BOZO is like watching a car wreck in the distance in slow motion; seeing the cars all spin and then wondering when you will hear & see the crash.

And that is the HUGE PROBLEM, since this is not some stupid game, it is a legal battle to find and convict the person responsible for killing Caylee and because this AZZ hat cannot do his job properly this will probably never end.

GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 16, 2010, 12:02:17 PM
And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

me too..... ::rhino:: ::rhino::

No, I don't think he's the father either.  Just haven't seen an official FBI report eliminating him.  I don't know who these people on the internet are or how much training, if any, they've had.  Just words on a screen until something official is released.

I have been trying to download that report that Desi linked since yesterday and it is not up anymore. I have searched the other sites for it and have not found it yet, so if anyone has another link I would really appreciate it since I have already called my friend in Michigan and asked her to to over the DNA results. I want to make sure it specifically said George and see HOW they took the DNA if it was because there are a number of ways to beat a DNA when the subject is unwilling so I am interested if it was a "controlled" sample.


That link is working fine for me. I'm using mozilla firefox, you might try that if you're not using it already.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147519/detail.html

Will it download?  I can't get it to download. It says to contact the administrator of the site. I called the TV station yesterday and they said they had a problem with the document downloading and they did not know when it would be fixed as it was an Adobe problem.

Could you download it then upload it to DOCSTOC and I can get it from there?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Blink34 on August 16, 2010, 12:03:01 PM
Fate of Central Florida mom could hinge on judge's ruling on death penalty
Updated: 9:41 a.m. Monday, Aug. 16, 2010
Posted: 9:07 a.m. Monday, Aug. 16, 2010

<snipped>

"This case falls far from being a death case," said Jose Baez, who represents Anthony, accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Marie. "They don't know how she (Caylee) died. They don't know when. They don't know why. Before you take someone's life, you should have all the answers."

Terry Lenamon once worked for Anthony's defense team and is a veteran of at least eight death-penalty cases and 20 other first-degree-murder cases. He agrees Anthony shouldn't be facing a potential death sentence. Rather, he said, the defense should have reached a plea agreement earlier in the case.

Recent court documents submitted by the defense suggest that very early on, Anthony was offered a 10-year prison sentence in exchange for telling authorities where Caylee's remains were located. True or not, no deal ever emerged. Baez would not discuss the issue.

Now, Lenamon insists, "This is never going to reach death. It's just not going to happen," despite the politics, personalities and media attention surrounding the case.


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime/fate-of-central-florida-mom-could-hinge-on-861718.html

More BS............both judges have already ruled on the DP aspect of the case...........SHUT UP Lenamon and tell BOZO to do SOMETHING right for a change if you have such intelligence and insight.

You got that right. He should be facing a bar inquiry for his public statements about her case in the first place.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: akmom on August 16, 2010, 12:04:07 PM
Apologies if this has been mentioned already but Simon Barrett [ August 15 ] has the reason why Jesse Grund's depo was cancelled---Baez & Co. forgot to serve Jesse with the papers.  Scroll down several paragraphs where Simon mentions it in his summary:

http://www.bloggernews.net/125077

Good Morning Monks!  Ono, thanks!!  this is a great way to start my day! ::MonkeyDevil::

Without doubt the most humorous event of the week was the non-depo of Richard and Jessie Grund by Baez and the kids. The news outlets had the story, but not the detail. All that was reported was that they had been canceled. In todays program we shared the gory details. Someone in the illustrious Baez operation forgot the minor detail of actually serving Jessie Grund with the papers! For months Baez has been squawking about the Grunds, yet he forgets to actually invite Jessie to the party? Of course now that he is on the Tax Payers dime, I guess that he has throttled back his level of activity.

OMG - I had not realized that.............BOZO is like watching a car wreck in the distance in slow motion; seeing the cars all spin and then wondering when you will hear & see the crash.

And that is the HUGE PROBLEM, since this is not some stupid game, it is a legal battle to find and convict the person responsible for killing Caylee and because this AZZ hat cannot do his job properly this will probably never end.

GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

I think that this could go on forever because it will be claimed that she did not have appropriate council, or what ever the proper term for it is......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 16, 2010, 12:04:21 PM
does anyone besides me think that Conway resigned in part because of the A holes going on the tv shows and spewing their lies and vermin and he doesn't want to be an attorney to clients that he can not control? as in, don't do interviews on shows saying things that can later be used against you?
I think that Brad had just had enough of the A's and is using the Baez thing as another way to get out of representing them ?
Will be interesting to see who does step up to represent the Ants now...

That and I wondered if he found out that one of them helped dispose of the body or had a big part in this. That is the first thing which crossed my mind.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: mizjay on August 16, 2010, 12:04:36 PM
does anyone besides me think that Conway resigned in part because of the A holes going on the tv shows and spewing their lies and vermin and he doesn't want to be an attorney to clients that he can not control? as in, don't do interviews on shows saying things that can later be used against you?
I think that Brad had just had enough of the A's and is using the Baez thing as another way to get out of representing them ?
Will be interesting to see who does step up to represent the Ants now...

On the quick and dirty your comment makes sense but if he was so appalled at their morning show spot, then why was he along too? The network couldn't have just found out and make arrangements for him to fly to NYC Sunday night.
This stinks, the tv network was able to create a media event, not just report on one. It's the same premise that people railed about when the pics were sold to ABC. They go from objective to manufacturing the news.  So Friday, instead using a satellite connection to interview the A's, it's all expense trip...and the next installment just happens to be their previous guests atty making a splashy, juicy announcement.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 16, 2010, 12:08:41 PM
Apologies if this has been mentioned already but Simon Barrett [ August 15 ] has the reason why Jesse Grund's depo was cancelled---Baez & Co. forgot to serve Jesse with the papers.  Scroll down several paragraphs where Simon mentions it in his summary:

http://www.bloggernews.net/125077

Good Morning Monks!  Ono, thanks!!  this is a great way to start my day! ::MonkeyDevil::

Without doubt the most humorous event of the week was the non-depo of Richard and Jessie Grund by Baez and the kids. The news outlets had the story, but not the detail. All that was reported was that they had been canceled. In todays program we shared the gory details. Someone in the illustrious Baez operation forgot the minor detail of actually serving Jessie Grund with the papers! For months Baez has been squawking about the Grunds, yet he forgets to actually invite Jessie to the party? Of course now that he is on the Tax Payers dime, I guess that he has throttled back his level of activity.

OMG - I had not realized that.............BOZO is like watching a car wreck in the distance in slow motion; seeing the cars all spin and then wondering when you will hear & see the crash.

And that is the HUGE PROBLEM, since this is not some stupid game, it is a legal battle to find and convict the person responsible for killing Caylee and because this AZZ hat cannot do his job properly this will probably never end.

GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

I think that this could go on forever because it will be claimed that she did not have appropriate council, or what ever the proper term for it is......

I don't know about in Florida, but in my state they have to also prove that the verdict would have been different with a different attorney for the verdict to be overturned. I don't think that is will be provable for KC because I believe the state has a TON of evidence we have NO clue about yet.

Another thing is she hired BOZO and could fire him at anytime. In many cases it has been held that because of that the perp got the counsel they wanted regardless of their ability.  With a court appointed lawyer it is much simpler to prove, that most likely will not fly in this one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 16, 2010, 12:11:21 PM
does anyone besides me think that Conway resigned in part because of the A holes going on the tv shows and spewing their lies and vermin and he doesn't want to be an attorney to clients that he can not control? as in, don't do interviews on shows saying things that can later be used against you?
I think that Brad had just had enough of the A's and is using the Baez thing as another way to get out of representing them ?
Will be interesting to see who does step up to represent the Ants now...

That and I wondered if he found out that one of them helped dispose of the body or had a big part in this. That is the first thing which crossed my mind.

Especially with his choice of words at the end of his letter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 16, 2010, 12:12:35 PM
Weintraub would be the logical choice, she likes the Anthonys, and she thinks the case against Casey isn't good.

Lets see her "step up to the plate" if she is SO enthralled with the Anthonys. Put her time and her money where her big stupid mouth is............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 16, 2010, 12:13:22 PM
does anyone besides me think that Conway resigned in part because of the A holes going on the tv shows and spewing their lies and vermin and he doesn't want to be an attorney to clients that he can not control? as in, don't do interviews on shows saying things that can later be used against you?
I think that Brad had just had enough of the A's and is using the Baez thing as another way to get out of representing them ?
Will be interesting to see who does step up to represent the Ants now...

On the quick and dirty your comment makes sense but if he was so appalled at their morning show spot, then why was he along too? The network couldn't have just found out and make arrangements for him to fly to NYC Sunday night.
This stinks, the tv network was able to create a media event, not just report on one. It's the same premise that people railed about when the pics were sold to ABC. They go from objective to manufacturing the news.  So Friday, instead using a satellite connection to interview the A's, it's all expense trip...and the next installment just happens to be their previous guests atty making a splashy, juicy announcement.

Good point.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 12:17:35 PM
does anyone besides me think that Conway resigned in part because of the A holes going on the tv shows and spewing their lies and vermin and he doesn't want to be an attorney to clients that he can not control? as in, don't do interviews on shows saying things that can later be used against you?
I think that Brad had just had enough of the A's and is using the Baez thing as another way to get out of representing them ?
Will be interesting to see who does step up to represent the Ants now...

If they had been truthful from the beginning they would NOT NEED an attorney.

amen!! ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: mizjay on August 16, 2010, 12:20:26 PM
does anyone besides me think that Conway resigned in part because of the A holes going on the tv shows and spewing their lies and vermin and he doesn't want to be an attorney to clients that he can not control? as in, don't do interviews on shows saying things that can later be used against you?
I think that Brad had just had enough of the A's and is using the Baez thing as another way to get out of representing them ?
Will be interesting to see who does step up to represent the Ants now...

On the quick and dirty your comment makes sense but if he was so appalled at their morning show spot, then why was he along too? The network couldn't have just found out and make arrangements for him to fly to NYC Sunday night.
This stinks, the tv network was able to create a media event, not just report on one. It's the same premise that people railed about when the pics were sold to ABC. They go from objective to manufacturing the news.  So Friday, instead using a satellite connection to interview the A's, it's all expense trip...and the next installment just happens to be their previous guests atty making a splashy, juicy announcement.

Good point.
My beef is, that this is about a murder trial, it's not a starlet having her agent tip off the media about some tidbit and them repoting on it as an exclusive. It's hyping the hooppla in the on going saga of casey. What's to prevent them from making it even more news worthy by setting them up with one of their talking head attys to generate even more publicity? It seems really like crossing the line to me. jmo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 16, 2010, 12:23:01 PM
does anyone besides me think that Conway resigned in part because of the A holes going on the tv shows and spewing their lies and vermin and he doesn't want to be an attorney to clients that he can not control? as in, don't do interviews on shows saying things that can later be used against you?
I think that Brad had just had enough of the A's and is using the Baez thing as another way to get out of representing them ?
Will be interesting to see who does step up to represent the Ants now...

If they had been truthful from the beginning they would NOT NEED an attorney.

amen!! ::rhino::

True.  I've never believed anything they've said from the very first time I saw them on TV at the beginning of this farce.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: tupelohoney on August 16, 2010, 12:23:01 PM
I found this comment interesting, from todays HinkyMeter article...

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/08/16/caylee-anthony-case-conway-will-no-longer-represent-anthonys/#comments

» Silverspnr said: { Aug 16, 2010 - 10:08:43 }

snipped:

*****
Here is the Florida Rule regarding when a lawyer may testify as a witness:
Rule 4-3.7 Lawyer as Witness
(a) When Lawyer May Testify.
A lawyer shall not act as advocate at a trial in which the lawyer is likely to be a necessary witness on behalf of the client except where:
(1) the testimony relates to an uncontested issue;
(2) the testimony will relate solely to a matter of formality and there is no reason to believe that substantial evidence will be offered in opposition to the testimony;
(3) the testimony relates to the nature and value of legal services rendered in the case; or
(4) disqualification of the lawyer would work substantial hardship on the client.
Here is why it does NOT apply to bar Brad Conway from continuing his “representation” of the Anthonys in this situation:
He is not acting in the role of an ADVOCATE AT TRIAL in THIS case.
They are NOT PARTIES to this litigation.
He is, perhaps, COUNSELING them.
He is seemingly involved in brokering a book or some other type of entertainment deal(s) for them.
But he is NOT an ADVOCATE in these proceedings.
He hasn’t ENTERED AN APPEARANCE for anyone on the docket for this criminal matter (because he can’t enter an appearance for someone who is not a party to the case).
Hence, he has no right to make any OBJECTIONS to questions when they testify as witnesses in the case, etc.
He doesn’t require court permission to WITHDRAW as counsel.
So… to say he is no longer representing them.. is kind of meaningless with regard to FLORIDA v. CASEY ANTHONY.
My guess is that he is GRATEFUL for an exit (and probably that he has already brokered whatever deal they were exploring–or has an agreement with the Anthonys to do so in the future).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 12:28:16 PM
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2010/08/brad-conway-out-as-attorney-for-george.html
Monday, August 16, 2010
Brad Conway Out As Attorney For George and Cindy Anthony


thanks trim.....this really makes it clear why BC is resigning....IMO, Mark Nejame point out what what should have been done and kind of challenged BC to do the right thing and stop representing the liars, by pointing out that he, BC, knows the truth!!  This is JMO

Mark NeJame's Reply to Defendant's Response to Motion to Quash the Court's Order on Defendant's Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum for the Documents in the Possession of Texas Equusearch Based on Bad Faith responded to the accusation by stating:

4. In the Defendant's response they falsely claim that the undersigned compelled a waiver of conflict from Mr. and Mrs. Anthony in exchange for allowing their attorney, Brad Conway, to review the TES files. In the time that the Defense took to write this ludicrous and untrue response, they could and should have performed their due diligence and contacted Brad Conway, attorney for George and Cindy Anthony, who would have informed them that these allegations were frivolous, untrue and lacked any measure whatsoever of truthfulness or veracity. Mr. NeJame has communicated with Mr. Conway as recently as yesterday morning and Mr. Conway reconfirmed that no consideration was offered whatsoever to review the TES documents and that Mr. NeJame's act was that of compassion for the grandparents, with no consideration of anything in return.

The defense attorneys should have simply done a modicum of work or expended the most minimal effort by checking their facts and calling Mr. Conway, rather than filing deceptive, untruthful, irrelevant and outlandish pleadings. Mr. Conway is an ethical, respected member of the Bar and is well aware of the truth and the facts surrounding this specious allegation contained in Defendant's pleadings and confirms them to be untrue.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 12:30:14 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/24645872/detail.html
Attorney No Longer Representing Casey's Parents
Posted: 11:15 am EDT August 16, 2010Updated: 11:36 am EDT August 16, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Attorney Brad Conway announced Monday that he is no longer representing Casey Anthony’s parents because of something Casey’s lawyers did.

Brad Conway said in an email that a motion filed by the defense earlier this month contains untrue allegations involving him. Conway says, because of that motion, he is now a witness to an inaccurate legal pleading in court and cannot continue to represent anyone related to the case.

Conway also said that George and Cindy Anthony did nothing wrong and he will continue to support them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 12:30:38 PM
And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

me too..... ::rhino:: ::rhino::

No, I don't think he's the father either.  Just haven't seen an official FBI report eliminating him.  I don't know who these people on the internet are or how much training, if any, they've had.  Just words on a screen until something official is released.

I have been trying to download that report that Desi linked since yesterday and it is not up anymore. I have searched the other sites for it and have not found it yet, so if anyone has another link I would really appreciate it since I have already called my friend in Michigan and asked her to to over the DNA results. I want to make sure it specifically said George and see HOW they took the DNA if it was because there are a number of ways to beat a DNA when the subject is unwilling so I am interested if it was a "controlled" sample.


That link is working fine for me. I'm using mozilla firefox, you might try that if you're not using it already.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147519/detail.html

Will it download?  I can't get it to download. It says to contact the administrator of the site. I called the TV station yesterday and they said they had a problem with the document downloading and they did not know when it would be fixed as it was an Adobe problem.

Could you download it then upload it to DOCSTOC and I can get it from there?

Turbo...I just clicked on the link and it downloaded right away.  FYI


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 12:32:14 PM
Saw this posted from InSession  http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371460&page=13

 WESH just reported that there was a session in-chambers at the courthouse this morning and are waiting to find out more. Jose was asked about the resignation of Brad, but had not read the letter and did not have time to read/respond. mo, but a link should be up shortly.
__________________


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 12:33:05 PM
Thanks Tupelo.   ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on August 16, 2010, 12:34:00 PM
And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

me too..... ::rhino:: ::rhino::

No, I don't think he's the father either.  Just haven't seen an official FBI report eliminating him.  I don't know who these people on the internet are or how much training, if any, they've had.  Just words on a screen until something official is released.

I have been trying to download that report that Desi linked since yesterday and it is not up anymore. I have searched the other sites for it and have not found it yet, so if anyone has another link I would really appreciate it since I have already called my friend in Michigan and asked her to to over the DNA results. I want to make sure it specifically said George and see HOW they took the DNA if it was because there are a number of ways to beat a DNA when the subject is unwilling so I am interested if it was a "controlled" sample.


That link is working fine for me. I'm using mozilla firefox, you might try that if you're not using it already.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147519/detail.html

Will it download?  I can't get it to download. It says to contact the administrator of the site. I called the TV station yesterday and they said they had a problem with the document downloading and they did not know when it would be fixed as it was an Adobe problem.

Could you download it then upload it to DOCSTOC and I can get it from there?



I had no problem downloading to my computer but docstoc won't upload it and I think this notice from its website is why....It's my opinion someone else has already saved this pdf file. What else can I try?


In order to keep Docstoc’s content unique, only one DocCash member may upload a document. If you are unable to upload a document and you are a DocCash member the likelihood is that another DocCash member has already uploaded the document. No duplicate documents are permitted among DocCash members.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 12:34:13 PM
does anyone besides me think that Conway resigned in part because of the A holes going on the tv shows and spewing their lies and vermin and he doesn't want to be an attorney to clients that he can not control? as in, don't do interviews on shows saying things that can later be used against you?
I think that Brad had just had enough of the A's and is using the Baez thing as another way to get out of representing them ?
Will be interesting to see who does step up to represent the Ants now...

If they had been truthful from the beginning they would NOT NEED an attorney.

for sure!!  can't remember any other grand parents who have had to hire an attorney because their grand child was missing or murdered...can anyone else recall that happening?

Nope...but since we know sin-cin has messed with evidence and who knows for sure about georgieboy.....I can see them wanting a criminal attorney.....not that they have needed one and the way it looks will never need one...they have done things that you or I would have been arrested and jailed for...yet they are still walking around free to spread their lies and venom.......when does their damn free ride end?  I am waiting for justice in more ways that one!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 12:39:23 PM
I found this comment interesting, from todays HinkyMeter article...

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/08/16/caylee-anthony-case-conway-will-no-longer-represent-anthonys/#comments

» Silverspnr said: { Aug 16, 2010 - 10:08:43 }

snipped:

*****
Here is the Florida Rule regarding when a lawyer may testify as a witness:
Rule 4-3.7 Lawyer as Witness
(a) When Lawyer May Testify.
A lawyer shall not act as advocate at a trial in which the lawyer is likely to be a necessary witness on behalf of the client except where:
(1) the testimony relates to an uncontested issue;
(2) the testimony will relate solely to a matter of formality and there is no reason to believe that substantial evidence will be offered in opposition to the testimony;
(3) the testimony relates to the nature and value of legal services rendered in the case; or
(4) disqualification of the lawyer would work substantial hardship on the client.
Here is why it does NOT apply to bar Brad Conway from continuing his “representation” of the Anthonys in this situation:
He is not acting in the role of an ADVOCATE AT TRIAL in THIS case.
They are NOT PARTIES to this litigation.
He is, perhaps, COUNSELING them.
He is seemingly involved in brokering a book or some other type of entertainment deal(s) for them.
But he is NOT an ADVOCATE in these proceedings.
He hasn’t ENTERED AN APPEARANCE for anyone on the docket for this criminal matter (because he can’t enter an appearance for someone who is not a party to the case).
Hence, he has no right to make any OBJECTIONS to questions when they testify as witnesses in the case, etc.
He doesn’t require court permission to WITHDRAW as counsel.
So… to say he is no longer representing them.. is kind of meaningless with regard to FLORIDA v. CASEY ANTHONY.
My guess is that he is GRATEFUL for an exit (and probably that he has already brokered whatever deal they were exploring–or has an agreement with the Anthonys to do so in the future).

Thanks tupelo......I agree with the guess and I also think the money flow has stopped....perhaps even with the TODAY show...the free trips etc., may be coming to a halt.  This gave him the perfect excuse and I think MNJ had a hand in giving him a little push.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 12:41:25 PM
Saw this posted from InSession  http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371460&page=13

 WESH just reported that there was a session in-chambers at the courthouse this morning and are waiting to find out more. Jose was asked about the resignation of Brad, but had not read the letter and did not have time to read/respond. mo, but a link should be up shortly.
__________________

Well that's interesting.....wonder who was at that in chambers meeting?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: BooMonkey on August 16, 2010, 12:43:24 PM
I found this comment interesting, from todays HinkyMeter article...

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/08/16/caylee-anthony-case-conway-will-no-longer-represent-anthonys/#comments

» Silverspnr said: { Aug 16, 2010 - 10:08:43 }

snipped:

*****
Here is the Florida Rule regarding when a lawyer may testify as a witness:
Rule 4-3.7 Lawyer as Witness
(a) When Lawyer May Testify.
A lawyer shall not act as advocate at a trial in which the lawyer is likely to be a necessary witness on behalf of the client except where:
(1) the testimony relates to an uncontested issue;
(2) the testimony will relate solely to a matter of formality and there is no reason to believe that substantial evidence will be offered in opposition to the testimony;
(3) the testimony relates to the nature and value of legal services rendered in the case; or
(4) disqualification of the lawyer would work substantial hardship on the client.
Here is why it does NOT apply to bar Brad Conway from continuing his “representation” of the Anthonys in this situation:
He is not acting in the role of an ADVOCATE AT TRIAL in THIS case.
They are NOT PARTIES to this litigation.
He is, perhaps, COUNSELING them.
He is seemingly involved in brokering a book or some other type of entertainment deal(s) for them.
But he is NOT an ADVOCATE in these proceedings.
He hasn’t ENTERED AN APPEARANCE for anyone on the docket for this criminal matter (because he can’t enter an appearance for someone who is not a party to the case).
Hence, he has no right to make any OBJECTIONS to questions when they testify as witnesses in the case, etc.
He doesn’t require court permission to WITHDRAW as counsel.
So… to say he is no longer representing them.. is kind of meaningless with regard to FLORIDA v. CASEY ANTHONY.
My guess is that he is GRATEFUL for an exit (and probably that he has already brokered whatever deal they were exploring–or has an agreement with the Anthonys to do so in the future).

Thanks Tup, I'm sitting here wondering what the hell Brad is talking about. What conflict is created by being the Anthony's lawyer? They are the grandparents with a supposed no need for a lawyer in the first place. Conway staying with them, IMO doesn't mean a "conflict of interest" with this witness thing. I'm not understanding this. Now if he came on and said I can't stand by my clients because they continually ignore my advise, then I would understand.
I too think, he just wants out and this is the perfect out for him.
Am I making sense?
Him being a witness has nothing to do with the price of bananas.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 12:43:47 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/category/jose-baez/


Casey Anthony: What will Brad Conway’s departure mean?
Caylee and Casey Anthony, George and Cindy Anthony, Jose Baez, WESH, WKMG — posted by halboedeker on August, 16 2010 12:20 PM
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A closed-door meeting in Judge Belvin Perry’s office followed Brad Conway’s announcement that he would no longer represent George and Cindy Anthony, WESH-Ch. 2 reported at noon today.

In New York this morning, Conway announced his decision to leave on NBC’s “Today.” Conway told NBC’s Ann Curry that he was a witness to false pleadings by the defense over Texas EquuSearch records. Conway said he had to withdraw because the defense had misrepresented his role and actions.

EquuSearch volunteers looked for Caylee Anthony. Casey Anthony, the daughter of George and Cindy Anthony, is accused of first-degree murder in the death of her child.

Casey Anthony’s defense, the prosecution and EquuSearch attorneys met in Perry’s office about a half-hour after Conway’s “Today” appearance, WESH’s Bob Kealing reported.

“We still have no idea what happened in that closed-door session,” Kealing said. But Jose Baez, Casey Anthony’s attorney, said he didn’t have time to respond to Conway’s resignation, Kealing reported.

What will Conway’s departure mean to the case? “Probably not much,” WKMG-Ch. 6’s Tony Pipitone said. “This is really a sideshow … It’s a dispute between attorneys that has claimed another attorney.”

Pipitone reminded viewers that Conway wasn’t involved in Casey Anthony’s defense. “He represented their parents as they went off to make media appearances,” Pipitone said. (Conway is shown with George and Cindy Anthony last year in this photo by Red Huber of the Sentinel.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: mizjay on August 16, 2010, 12:44:20 PM
Saw this posted from InSession  http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371460&page=13

 WESH just reported that there was a session in-chambers at the courthouse this morning and are waiting to find out more. Jose was asked about the resignation of Brad, but had not read the letter and did not have time to read/respond. mo, but a link should be up shortly.
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Well that's interesting.....wonder who was at that in chambers meeting?
I sure hope Lady justice was there swinging a jack hammer at Baez.   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2010, 12:45:56 PM

What will Conway’s departure mean to the case? “Probably not much,” WKMG-Ch. 6’s Tony Pipitone said. “This is really a sideshow … It’s a dispute between attorneys that has claimed another attorney.”    ::MonkeyTongue::  You mean Circus Sideshow.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 12:46:24 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/category/jose-baez/


Casey Anthony: What will Brad Conway’s departure mean?
Caylee and Casey Anthony, George and Cindy Anthony, Jose Baez, WESH, WKMG — posted by halboedeker on August, 16 2010 12:20 PM
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A closed-door meeting in Judge Belvin Perry’s office followed Brad Conway’s announcement that he would no longer represent George and Cindy Anthony, WESH-Ch. 2 reported at noon today.

In New York this morning, Conway announced his decision to leave on NBC’s “Today.” Conway told NBC’s Ann Curry that he was a witness to false pleadings by the defense over Texas EquuSearch records. Conway said he had to withdraw because the defense had misrepresented his role and actions.

EquuSearch volunteers looked for Caylee Anthony. Casey Anthony, the daughter of George and Cindy Anthony, is accused of first-degree murder in the death of her child.

Casey Anthony’s defense, the prosecution and EquuSearch attorneys met in Perry’s office about a half-hour after Conway’s “Today” appearance, WESH’s Bob Kealing reported.

“We still have no idea what happened in that closed-door session,” Kealing said. But Jose Baez, Casey Anthony’s attorney, said he didn’t have time to respond to Conway’s resignation, Kealing reported.

What will Conway’s departure mean to the case? “Probably not much,” WKMG-Ch. 6’s Tony Pipitone said. “This is really a sideshow … It’s a dispute between attorneys that has claimed another attorney.”

Pipitone reminded viewers that Conway wasn’t involved in Casey Anthony’s defense. “He represented their parents as they went off to make media appearances,” Pipitone said. (Conway is shown with George and Cindy Anthony last year in this photo by Red Huber of the Sentinel.)


Odd sometimes when you wonder about something and the answer pops right up in front of you ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 12:49:13 PM
Saw this posted from InSession  http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371460&page=13

 WESH just reported that there was a session in-chambers at the courthouse this morning and are waiting to find out more. Jose was asked about the resignation of Brad, but had not read the letter and did not have time to read/respond. mo, but a link should be up shortly.
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Well that's interesting.....wonder who was at that in chambers meeting?
I sure hope Lady justice was there swinging a jack hammer at Baez.   ::MonkeyGavel::

OHMYGAWD!  I'll bet BOZO pooped his pants this morning. Can you imagine getting a called from JP's clerks saying JP wants you in his office at such and such a time when it comes out that you bare faced lied in a motion?  ::MonkeyDevil::  We may never find out what was said in this meeting but I would not want to be BOZO's pants ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: BooMonkey on August 16, 2010, 12:51:46 PM
Snipped""""

I don't know about in Florida, but in my state they have to also prove that the verdict would have been different with a different attorney for the verdict to be overturned. I don't think that is will be provable for KC because I believe the state has a TON of evidence we have NO clue about yet.

Another thing is she hired BOZO and could fire him at anytime. In many cases it has been held that because of that the perp got the counsel they wanted regardless of their ability.  With a court appointed lawyer it is much simpler to prove, that most likely will not fly in this one.

See, I find this statement very interesting. Can there be a re-trial b/c of Baez, when everyone has told her what an idiot he is and she still wants him. Wasn't there something last year about her signing a waiver of some sort stating that she still wants Baez and believes she is getting a fair shake with him? Then I remember some monkey stating that EVERYONE gets a do-over if she gets the death penalty. This is really pizzing me off, cause so much money is being thrown at Baez and the entire world can see how incompetent he is. Then when Casey gets the death penalty she will go Whaaaaaaaat? I want a real lawyer now and the whole process has to be started over.

Turbo I hope and pray what you stated is true and the world will not have to look at her ugly face again.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2010, 12:52:37 PM
I'm scratching my head wondering why Conway needed to go on the Today Show to announce this nonsense? Must be a slow day for the Today Show. I never, ever watch that show, don't like it one bit  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: mizjay on August 16, 2010, 12:56:45 PM
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I don't know about in Florida, but in my state they have to also prove that the verdict would have been different with a different attorney for the verdict to be overturned. I don't think that is will be provable for KC because I believe the state has a TON of evidence we have NO clue about yet.

Another thing is she hired BOZO and could fire him at anytime. In many cases it has been held that because of that the perp got the counsel they wanted regardless of their ability.  With a court appointed lawyer it is much simpler to prove, that most likely will not fly in this one.

See, I find this statement very interesting. Can there be a re-trial b/c of Baez, when everyone has told her what an idiot he is and she still wants him. Wasn't there something last year about her signing a waiver of some sort stating that she still wants Baez and believes she is getting a fair shake with him? Then I remember some monkey stating that EVERYONE gets a do-over if she gets the death penalty. This is really pizzing me off, cause so much money is being thrown at Baez and the entire world can see how incompetent he is. Then when Casey gets the death penalty she will go Whaaaaaaaat? I want a real lawyer now and the whole process has to be started over.

Turbo I hope and pray what you stated is true and the world will not have to look at her ugly face again.   ::MonkeyMad::
It's also interesting that BC remarked today about his difference of opinion with Baez's keeping casey from seeing her parents. Sort of draws a line in the sand, the "good" lawyer questioning the "bad" lawyer's idea to isolate his client. Helpful down the line when the incompetent counsel questions arise and somebody thinks kc deserves a new trial??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: BooMonkey on August 16, 2010, 12:58:05 PM
Saw this posted from InSession  http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371460&page=13

 WESH just reported that there was a session in-chambers at the courthouse this morning and are waiting to find out more. Jose was asked about the resignation of Brad, but had not read the letter and did not have time to read/respond. mo, but a link should be up shortly.
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Well that's interesting.....wonder who was at that in chambers meeting?
I sure hope Lady justice was there swinging a jack hammer at Baez.   ::MonkeyGavel::

OHMYGAWD!  I'll bet BOZO pooped his pants this morning. Can you imagine getting a called from JP's clerks saying JP wants you in his office at such and such a time when it comes out that you bare faced lied in a motion?  ::MonkeyDevil::  We may never find out what was said in this meeting but I would not want to be BOZO's pants ::MonkeyNoNo::

Sunny I was thinking the same thing. Ring, riiiiiing, Hello? Get your ass over to court RIGHT NOW!!!! Wonder if he had time to change out of his Sponge Bob Square Pants pj's???? Can you imagine facing the wrath of Perry without a Carmel mocha latte first thing in the morning???    ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 16, 2010, 01:01:36 PM

What will Conway’s departure mean to the case? “Probably not much,” WKMG-Ch. 6’s Tony Pipitone said. “This is really a sideshow … It’s a dispute between attorneys that has claimed another attorney.”    ::MonkeyTongue::  You mean Circus Sideshow.
::MonkeyHaHa:: Yep and they can't find anyone who's willing to pay admission.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 16, 2010, 01:04:12 PM
Saw this posted from InSession  http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371460&page=13

 WESH just reported that there was a session in-chambers at the courthouse this morning and are waiting to find out more. Jose was asked about the resignation of Brad, but had not read the letter and did not have time to read/respond. mo, but a link should be up shortly.
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Well that's interesting.....wonder who was at that in chambers meeting?

The Jar and some oxygen would be part of my guess   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 16, 2010, 01:05:40 PM
And I'll say one more thing, because it is obvious I can't shut up  ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't think much more in this case would startle me, but IF it turns out that George is the father, I will be beyond startled.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

me too..... ::rhino:: ::rhino::

No, I don't think he's the father either.  Just haven't seen an official FBI report eliminating him.  I don't know who these people on the internet are or how much training, if any, they've had.  Just words on a screen until something official is released.

I have been trying to download that report that Desi linked since yesterday and it is not up anymore. I have searched the other sites for it and have not found it yet, so if anyone has another link I would really appreciate it since I have already called my friend in Michigan and asked her to to over the DNA results. I want to make sure it specifically said George and see HOW they took the DNA if it was because there are a number of ways to beat a DNA when the subject is unwilling so I am interested if it was a "controlled" sample.


That link is working fine for me. I'm using mozilla firefox, you might try that if you're not using it already.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147519/detail.html

Will it download?  I can't get it to download. It says to contact the administrator of the site. I called the TV station yesterday and they said they had a problem with the document downloading and they did not know when it would be fixed as it was an Adobe problem.

Could you download it then upload it to DOCSTOC and I can get it from there?

Turbo...I just clicked on the link and it downloaded right away.  FYI

It may just be my computer. I use firefox and I even tried explorer and it did not work. The woman at the TV station said if someone had downloaded it before it would download but if you hadn't then it wouldn't because they were having some type of trouble with Adobe in this document. I will try to find it on another site.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 01:06:09 PM
I'm scratching my head wondering why Conway needed to go on the Today Show to announce this nonsense? Must be a slow day for the Today Show. I never, ever watch that show, don't like it one bit  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Last free ride to NYC on Caylee's death??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 16, 2010, 01:06:39 PM
Saw this posted from InSession  http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371460&page=13

 WESH just reported that there was a session in-chambers at the courthouse this morning and are waiting to find out more. Jose was asked about the resignation of Brad, but had not read the letter and did not have time to read/respond. mo, but a link should be up shortly.
__________________

Well that's interesting.....wonder who was at that in chambers meeting?

The Jar and some oxygen would be part of my guess   ::MonkeyJnBox::

I am betting the judge is getting REAL tired of this BS from BOZO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 16, 2010, 01:07:20 PM
Saw this posted from InSession  http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371460&page=13

 WESH just reported that there was a session in-chambers at the courthouse this morning and are waiting to find out more. Jose was asked about the resignation of Brad, but had not read the letter and did not have time to read/respond. mo, but a link should be up shortly.
__________________

Well that's interesting.....wonder who was at that in chambers meeting?
I sure hope Lady justice was there swinging a jack hammer at Baez.   ::MonkeyGavel::

OHMYGAWD!  I'll bet BOZO pooped his pants this morning. Can you imagine getting a called from JP's clerks saying JP wants you in his office at such and such a time when it comes out that you bare faced lied in a motion?  ::MonkeyDevil::  We may never find out what was said in this meeting but I would not want to be BOZO's pants ::MonkeyNoNo::

Pants on the ground.....Pants on the ground.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 16, 2010, 01:08:26 PM
I have been trying to download that report that Desi linked since yesterday and it is not up anymore. I have searched the other sites for it and have not found it yet, so if anyone has another link I would really appreciate it since I have already called my friend in Michigan and asked her to to over the DNA results. I want to make sure it specifically said George and see HOW they took the DNA if it was because there are a number of ways to beat a DNA when the subject is unwilling so I am interested if it was a "controlled" sample.
That link is working fine for me. I'm using mozilla firefox, you might try that if you're not using it already.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147519/detail.html
Will it download?  I can't get it to download. It says to contact the administrator of the site. I called the TV station yesterday and they said they had a problem with the document downloading and they did not know when it would be fixed as it was an Adobe problem.

Could you download it then upload it to DOCSTOC and I can get it from there?
Well, yesterday was Sunday.  So perhaps whoever was working in the newsroom over the weekend, and who answered the phone for you yesterday, was somewhat less than well-informed, or maybe they were mistakenly referring to some other file??  This is a working link to a properly functioning file, Turbo -- I just tried it yet again to be sure, and it still works great, just as it has each time I have used/tested it. 

I click on the link.  It takes me to WFTV.com and the .pdf file promptly begins loading.  I can view it and easily navigate to the page I want (page 86).  I can print it or copy the page as an image with a click of the right mouse button.  Again, I have tested and re-tested it, and am not seeing any problem with this .pdf file, nor the link itself.

I'm on Firefox, too, fwiw.  Hope you will eventually be able to view it, Turbo.  Maybe because of your browser or your compy, you might have to wait for all 622 pages to load before you can view it?  Not sure what the problem is here.  (Sorry for the o/t, but it is frustrating to post a verified working link, and to be told repeatedly that it doesn't work, or that it is  "not up any more.")


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 16, 2010, 01:08:39 PM
Saw this posted from InSession  http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371460&page=13

 WESH just reported that there was a session in-chambers at the courthouse this morning and are waiting to find out more. Jose was asked about the resignation of Brad, but had not read the letter and did not have time to read/respond. mo, but a link should be up shortly.
__________________

Well that's interesting.....wonder who was at that in chambers meeting?
I sure hope Lady justice was there swinging a jack hammer at Baez.   ::MonkeyGavel::

OHMYGAWD!  I'll bet BOZO pooped his pants this morning. Can you imagine getting a called from JP's clerks saying JP wants you in his office at such and such a time when it comes out that you bare faced lied in a motion?  ::MonkeyDevil::  We may never find out what was said in this meeting but I would not want to be BOZO's pants ::MonkeyNoNo::

Sunny I was thinking the same thing. Ring, riiiiiing, Hello? Get your ass over to court RIGHT NOW!!!! Wonder if he had time to change out of his Sponge Bob Square Pants pj's???? Can you imagine facing the wrath of Perry without a Carmel mocha latte first thing in the morning???    ::MonkeyDevil::

And when asked about Conway quitting he said he had an appointment and would comment later. I bet he canceled that appointment when the judge called. LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 01:09:44 PM
Saw this posted from InSession  http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371460&page=13

 WESH just reported that there was a session in-chambers at the courthouse this morning and are waiting to find out more. Jose was asked about the resignation of Brad, but had not read the letter and did not have time to read/respond. mo, but a link should be up shortly.
__________________

Well that's interesting.....wonder who was at that in chambers meeting?
I sure hope Lady justice was there swinging a jack hammer at Baez.   ::MonkeyGavel::

OHMYGAWD!  I'll bet BOZO pooped his pants this morning. Can you imagine getting a called from JP's clerks saying JP wants you in his office at such and such a time when it comes out that you bare faced lied in a motion?  ::MonkeyDevil::  We may never find out what was said in this meeting but I would not want to be BOZO's pants ::MonkeyNoNo::

Sunny I was thinking the same thing. Ring, riiiiiing, Hello? Get your ass over to court RIGHT NOW!!!! Wonder if he had time to change out of his Sponge Bob Square Pants pj's???? Can you imagine facing the wrath of Perry without a Carmel mocha latte first thing in the morning???    ::MonkeyDevil::

Boo!!  I can't imagine facing JP's wrath any time of the day....but as you say in the AM, first thing....oh mercy NO!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 16, 2010, 01:11:11 PM
Turbo...I just clicked on the link and it downloaded right away.  FYI
It may just be my computer. I use firefox and I even tried explorer and it did not work. The woman at the TV station said if someone had downloaded it before it would download but if you hadn't then it wouldn't because they were having some type of trouble with Adobe in this document. I will try to find it on another site.
::MonkeyHaHa:: Oooops!  Just saw this after I posted... Hope you can get it to work, Turbo!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 01:11:11 PM
Saw this posted from InSession  http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371460&page=13

 WESH just reported that there was a session in-chambers at the courthouse this morning and are waiting to find out more. Jose was asked about the resignation of Brad, but had not read the letter and did not have time to read/respond. mo, but a link should be up shortly.
__________________

Well that's interesting.....wonder who was at that in chambers meeting?
I sure hope Lady justice was there swinging a jack hammer at Baez.   ::MonkeyGavel::

OHMYGAWD!  I'll bet BOZO pooped his pants this morning. Can you imagine getting a called from JP's clerks saying JP wants you in his office at such and such a time when it comes out that you bare faced lied in a motion?  ::MonkeyDevil::  We may never find out what was said in this meeting but I would not want to be BOZO's pants ::MonkeyNoNo::

Sunny I was thinking the same thing. Ring, riiiiiing, Hello? Get your ass over to court RIGHT NOW!!!! Wonder if he had time to change out of his Sponge Bob Square Pants pj's???? Can you imagine facing the wrath of Perry without a Carmel mocha latte first thing in the morning???    ::MonkeyDevil::

I wish we had footage.   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 01:11:19 PM
Saw this posted from InSession  http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371460&page=13

 WESH just reported that there was a session in-chambers at the courthouse this morning and are waiting to find out more. Jose was asked about the resignation of Brad, but had not read the letter and did not have time to read/respond. mo, but a link should be up shortly.
__________________

Well that's interesting.....wonder who was at that in chambers meeting?

The Jar and some oxygen would be part of my guess   ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 16, 2010, 01:11:46 PM
I have been trying to download that report that Desi linked since yesterday and it is not up anymore. I have searched the other sites for it and have not found it yet, so if anyone has another link I would really appreciate it since I have already called my friend in Michigan and asked her to to over the DNA results. I want to make sure it specifically said George and see HOW they took the DNA if it was because there are a number of ways to beat a DNA when the subject is unwilling so I am interested if it was a "controlled" sample.
That link is working fine for me. I'm using mozilla firefox, you might try that if you're not using it already.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147519/detail.html
Will it download? I can't get it to download. It says to contact the administrator of the site. I called the TV station yesterday and they said they had a problem with the document downloading and they did not know when it would be fixed as it was an Adobe problem.

Could you download it then upload it to DOCSTOC and I can get it from there?
Well, yesterday was Sunday.  So perhaps whoever was working in the newsroom over the weekend, and who answered the phone for you yesterday, was somewhat less than well-informed, or maybe they were mistakenly referring to some other file??  This is a working link to a properly functioning file, Turbo -- I just tried it yet again to be sure, and it still works great, just as it has each time I have used/tested it.  

I click on the link.  It takes me to WFTV.com and the .pdf file promptly begins loading.  I can view it and easily navigate to the page I want (page 86).  I can print it or copy the page as an image with a click of the right mouse button.  Again, I have tested and re-tested it, and am not seeing any problem with this .pdf file, nor the link itself.

I'm on Firefox, too, fwiw.  Hope you will eventually be able to view it, Turbo.  Maybe because of your browser or your compy, you might have to wait for all 622 pages to load before you can view it?  Not sure what the problem is here.  (Sorry for the o/t, but it is frustrating to post a verified working link, and to be told repeatedly that it doesn't work, or that it is  "not up any more.")

Would you upload it to docstoc for me?  It may just be my computer. I don't know as I never have any trouble getting the documents. Or maybe if you could post the part where it says how they took the sample from George and the results. Anything which ties it to George and the sample procedure.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 16, 2010, 01:12:40 PM
Saw this posted from InSession  http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371460&page=13

 WESH just reported that there was a session in-chambers at the courthouse this morning and are waiting to find out more. Jose was asked about the resignation of Brad, but had not read the letter and did not have time to read/respond. mo, but a link should be up shortly.
__________________

Well that's interesting.....wonder who was at that in chambers meeting?
I sure hope Lady justice was there swinging a jack hammer at Baez.   ::MonkeyGavel::

OHMYGAWD!  I'll bet BOZO pooped his pants this morning. Can you imagine getting a called from JP's clerks saying JP wants you in his office at such and such a time when it comes out that you bare faced lied in a motion?  ::MonkeyDevil::  We may never find out what was said in this meeting but I would not want to be BOZO's pants ::MonkeyNoNo::

Pants on the ground.....Pants on the ground.....

LOL...looking like a fool!!! ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on August 16, 2010, 01:13:36 PM
I'm scratching my head wondering why Conway needed to go on the Today Show to announce this nonsense? Must be a slow day for the Today Show. I never, ever watch that show, don't like it one bit  ::MonkeyNoNo::


It seems to me that the TV appearances of CA and GA then followed by BC were another orchestrated media event that the network and the guests planned in advance to garner attention yet again. Nothing these people do is happenstance.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: ISpy on August 16, 2010, 01:15:23 PM
Let's cut through all the BS, Brad. You are leaving the Anthonys because let's face it you don't want your reputation anymore ruined than it already is. Also you know darn well they are liars and you lied enough for them already. It sure took you awhile Brad to come to that conclusion, what happened you wake up one day and realize they are making fools of you? Took you long enough to figure that one out  ::MonkeyNoNo:: You have been made a BIG FOOL of, and everybody the Anthonys touch they make BIG FOOLS out of them.

Yep...and they did it all for free.

Can- Thank you for your statement!  It got me thinking...why would Brad Conway, who's been working for free (*ahem* "pro bono")for the Anthonys, and whose house is supposedly in foreclosure, quit so suddenly?  I think there's more to this.  I don't think this is as cut and dry as it appears.  I'm not buying his "Now I'm a witness in an inaccurate legal pleading, so in good conscience, I'm being forced to resign as the Anthonys' attorney.".  Maybe I'm just really ignorant, but it seems to me that if he's subpoenaed, he goes under oath and answers truthfully to "Did you examine the 4,000 TES documents?", "Did you make notations or receive copies of any of the documents?", "Did you share any TES document information with your clients?", "Did George & Cindy Anthony sign a waiver of confidentiality (or ____________) ?", "Did that waiver contain retraction clauses predicated upon a TES search?", "Were there any clauses specifying searches for a live Caylee only?",  "Did the waiver contain language prohibiting searches for a deceased (a.k.a. "dead" Caylee)?", etc.  The only problems I foresee with this are:
  • that Conway examined all the documents  within the search area, straight up told the Anthonys that the area was not searched due to flooding, and The Anthonys chose to lie
  • the Anthonys, had in fact, signed a waiver of confidentiality (confident of the fabrication/mis-truth/lie perpetrated that TES has searched the area), either expecting the documents to validate their viewpoint or in an effort to disparage the investigation, evidence, searchers' reputations/credibility, etc.
As to the conflict of interest, wouldn't Conway simply claim attorney-client privilege if asked specific questions about what he may have related to the Anthonys regarding the search information (such as , "After examining the TES documents, did you inform your clients that the area was not searched?"  "What was their response?").  If I'm not understanding the conflict of interest angle, can someone please explain.  The only other conflicts I can think of are if Conway has been made aware that the defense intends to blame Cindy or George for the murder or the defense has indicated to Conway they're pursuing the Cindy/George for mitigating circumstances in the penalty phase.
Back to the issue at hand though, why would an attorney (whose own home is allegedly in foreclosure), work pro bono for clients whose mortgage was recently restructured during foreclosure proceedings, the mortgagee is on disability, and her spouse's has been employed less than 1 year?   His clients are making repeated television appearances (the Anthonys, their attorney, the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation, or some other entity established to benefit the Anthonys (Trust Fund?) is being/has been paid/are contracted pursuant to impending movie rights/book deals/exclusive coverage for those interviews).   His clients are shadowed by Jim Lichtenstein and the likes of Kerry Sandler.  Why would that attorney, suddenly quit?   What is wrong with this picture?  All MOO   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: 4 Donks on August 16, 2010, 01:15:29 PM
I'm scratching my head wondering why Conway needed to go on the Today Show to announce this nonsense? Must be a slow day for the Today Show. I never, ever watch that show, don't like it one bit  ::MonkeyNoNo::


It seems to me that the TV appearances of CA and GA then followed by BC were another orchestrated media event that the network and the guests planned in advance to garner attention yet again. Nothing these people do is happenstance.

BINGO ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: N2WISHN on August 16, 2010, 01:18:04 PM
I have been trying to download that report that Desi linked since yesterday and it is not up anymore. I have searched the other sites for it and have not found it yet, so if anyone has another link I would really appreciate it since I have already called my friend in Michigan and asked her to to over the DNA results. I want to make sure it specifically said George and see HOW they took the DNA if it was because there are a number of ways to beat a DNA when the subject is unwilling so I am interested if it was a "controlled" sample.
That link is working fine for me. I'm using mozilla firefox, you might try that if you're not using it already.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147519/detail.html
Will it download? I can't get it to download. It says to contact the administrator of the site. I called the TV station yesterday and they said they had a problem with the document downloading and they did not know when it would be fixed as it was an Adobe problem.

Could you download it then upload it to DOCSTOC and I can get it from there?
Well, yesterday was Sunday.  So perhaps whoever was working in the newsroom over the weekend, and who answered the phone for you yesterday, was somewhat less than well-informed, or maybe they were mistakenly referring to some other file??  This is a working link to a properly functioning file, Turbo -- I just tried it yet again to be sure, and it still works great, just as it has each time I have used/tested it.  

I click on the link.  It takes me to WFTV.com and the .pdf file promptly begins loading.  I can view it and easily navigate to the page I want (page 86).  I can print it or copy the page as an image with a click of the right mouse button.  Again, I have tested and re-tested it, and am not seeing any problem with this .pdf file, nor the link itself.

I'm on Firefox, too, fwiw.  Hope you will eventually be able to view it, Turbo.  Maybe because of your browser or your compy, you might have to wait for all 622 pages to load before you can view it?  Not sure what the problem is here.  (Sorry for the o/t, but it is frustrating to post a verified working link, and to be told repeatedly that it doesn't work, or that it is  "not up any more.")

Would you upload it to docstoc for me?  It may just be my computer. I don't know as I never have any trouble getting the documents. Or maybe if you could post the part where it says how they took the sample from George and the results. Anything which ties it to George and the sample procedure.


I already tried uploading to docstoc and it won't complete. I had no problem saving it to my computer but docstoc states they won't upload duplicate files from different members. I don't know what else to try.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 16, 2010, 01:21:09 PM
I'm scratching my head wondering why Conway needed to go on the Today Show to announce this nonsense? Must be a slow day for the Today Show. I never, ever watch that show, don't like it one bit  ::MonkeyNoNo::


It seems to me that the TV appearances of CA and GA then followed by BC were another orchestrated media event that the network and the guests planned in advance to garner attention yet again. Nothing these people do is happenstance.

BINGO ::MonkeyMad::

Yup.  I found it very interesting that at one point Today  mentioned Kerry Sanders interview with Conway about his resignation.  Kerry was given access to the Ant's home to tape the first part of the pitty us and Casey is a victim interview that was part of Friday's Today Show.  I have a very strong feeling it was all done at the same time, same reporters same crew, same velcro media coaching team aired different days. IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 01:22:40 PM
I'm scratching my head wondering why Conway needed to go on the Today Show to announce this nonsense? Must be a slow day for the Today Show. I never, ever watch that show, don't like it one bit  ::MonkeyNoNo::


It seems to me that the TV appearances of CA and GA then followed by BC were another orchestrated media event that the network and the guests planned in advance to garner attention yet again. Nothing these people do is happenstance.

BINGO ::MonkeyMad::

Yup.  I found it very interesting that at one point Today  mentioned Kerry Sanders interview with Conway about his resignation.  Kerry was given access to the Ant's home to tape the first part of the pitty us and Casey is a victim interview that was part of Friday's Today Show.  I have a very strong feeling it was all done at the same time, same reporters same crew, same velcro media coaching team aired different days. IMO.

I think so too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: TURBOTHINK on August 16, 2010, 01:24:09 PM

I already tried uploading to docstoc and it won't complete. I had no problem saving it to my computer but docstoc states they won't upload duplicate files from different members. I don't know what else to try.

If it is a duplicate file then that means it is already on there. Let me see if I can search and find it. Thank you so much.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 16, 2010, 01:28:01 PM
I have been trying to download that report that Desi linked since yesterday and it is not up anymore. I have searched the other sites for it and have not found it yet, so if anyone has another link I would really appreciate it since I have already called my friend in Michigan and asked her to to over the DNA results. I want to make sure it specifically said George and see HOW they took the DNA if it was because there are a number of ways to beat a DNA when the subject is unwilling so I am interested if it was a "controlled" sample.
That link is working fine for me. I'm using mozilla firefox, you might try that if you're not using it already.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147519/detail.html
Will it download? I can't get it to download. It says to contact the administrator of the site. I called the TV station yesterday and they said they had a problem with the document downloading and they did not know when it would be fixed as it was an Adobe problem.

Could you download it then upload it to DOCSTOC and I can get it from there?
Well, yesterday was Sunday.  So perhaps whoever was working in the newsroom over the weekend, and who answered the phone for you yesterday, was somewhat less than well-informed, or maybe they were mistakenly referring to some other file??  This is a working link to a properly functioning file, Turbo -- I just tried it yet again to be sure, and it still works great, just as it has each time I have used/tested it.  

I click on the link.  It takes me to WFTV.com and the .pdf file promptly begins loading.  I can view it and easily navigate to the page I want (page 86).  I can print it or copy the page as an image with a click of the right mouse button.  Again, I have tested and re-tested it, and am not seeing any problem with this .pdf file, nor the link itself.

I'm on Firefox, too, fwiw.  Hope you will eventually be able to view it, Turbo.  Maybe because of your browser or your compy, you might have to wait for all 622 pages to load before you can view it?  Not sure what the problem is here.  (Sorry for the o/t, but it is frustrating to post a verified working link, and to be told repeatedly that it doesn't work, or that it is  "not up any more.")
Would you upload it to docstoc for me?  It may just be my computer. I don't know as I never have any trouble getting the documents. Or maybe if you could post the part where it says how they took the sample from George and the results. Anything which ties it to George and the sample procedure.
Turbo, sorry; I don't upload stuff from my computer onto public storage sites (like PhotoBucket, DocStoc, etc.).

However..............Here is a present for you!  I will cross my fingers that you will be able to see this.

http://blogs.discovery.com/files/18530294.pdf
From the discovery released Sept 29, 2009:

1.  On page 8 is the FBI report detailing the receipt of the buccal sample from Casey and its assignment as evidence item K1.

2.  On pages 41-42 is the FBI report detailing the receipt of the buccal samples from George and Lee, and their assignment as evidence items K7 and K9, respectively.

I certainly hope this does the trick!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on August 16, 2010, 01:28:22 PM
Sources: George, Cindy Anthony's Attorney Quitting


http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

Bwwwaaaahahahahahah!  Give him credit...he lasted longer than I thought he would!!




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: mizjay on August 16, 2010, 01:29:59 PM
I'm scratching my head wondering why Conway needed to go on the Today Show to announce this nonsense? Must be a slow day for the Today Show. I never, ever watch that show, don't like it one bit  ::MonkeyNoNo::


It seems to me that the TV appearances of CA and GA then followed by BC were another orchestrated media event that the network and the guests planned in advance to garner attention yet again. Nothing these people do is happenstance.

BINGO ::MonkeyMad::

Yup.  I found it very interesting that at one point Today  mentioned Kerry Sanders interview with Conway about his resignation.  Kerry was given access to the Ant's home to tape the first part of the pitty us and Casey is a victim interview that was part of Friday's Today Show.  I have a very strong feeling it was all done at the same time, same reporters same crew, same velcro media coaching team aired different days. IMO.

I think so too.

So maybe the "velcro" team has a more suitable atty lined up for the A's. Not a home grown nobody, some media hound who will make lots of appearances on their "news" shows? If they have books or movies in the future, all this is free hype and publicity.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: numbersgirl on August 16, 2010, 01:31:34 PM
This may be a dumb question, but I hope someone will answer.  Why would NeJame allow Brad Conway to look through TES records anyway?  What need would Conway or his despicable clients have to see those searchers' information?  Was there some type of contract between GA and CA and TES?  Did Conway look through the records?

I'm sure NeJame knows what he's doing - but it is a little hinky to me.  What am I missing?   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Curly on August 16, 2010, 01:35:47 PM
OMG! At work and just tuning in. Conman quit? Holy chit.
I think he's been looking for an excuse, however, I don't quite understand the reason he's feels he has no choice but to resign.
Have to wait to get home to catch up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on August 16, 2010, 01:36:46 PM
From Brad Conway's letter of resignation:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643776/detail.html

I will continue to support the Anthonys, will continue to attend hearings and the eventual trial and most importantly I will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.

Although he holds the A's blameless, I think he came up against a conflict of interest. On the surface it seems like defense vs. NeJame with Conway placed in the middle, but that wouldn't be a problem if the A's weren't solidy helping out the defense, by giving them false ammunition. Cindy put down in a letter for the defense to use that Conway was there to examine the TES documents as part of a deal with NeJame. And that they had withdrawn their waiver. So really, it's not just the defense that's lying, as Conway claims, but Cindy as well, since the defense is going on what she is telling them.


Bwwwaaaahhhahahahah!  This is too delicious!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on August 16, 2010, 01:37:31 PM
From Brad Conway's letter of resignation:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643776/detail.html

I will continue to support the Anthonys, will continue to attend hearings and the eventual trial and most importantly I will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.

I forgot the most important part. Another possible bone of contention with the A's--Conway believes Caylee is dead; he doesn't want to go along with Cindy's false claims that she thinks Caylee is alive.

Could this be the "OUT" that Brad's been looking for???



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 16, 2010, 01:41:13 PM
This may be a dumb question, but I hope someone will answer.  Why would NeJame allow Brad Conway to look through TES records anyway?  What need would Conway or his despicable clients have to see those searchers' information?  Was there some type of contract between GA and CA and TES?  Did Conway look through the records?
I'm sure NeJame knows what he's doing - but it is a little hinky to me.  What am I missing?   ::MonkeyEek::
::MonkeyCool:: Hi numbers!  Whatever you are missing, I'm missing it, too.

It would be interesting to know whether Brad might have been digging for documentation regarding the incident in early November (the 8th?) where James Hoover allegedly approached the TES search team leader (IIRC) to inform them that someone had reported seeing Casey and her white Pontiac backed up to the site on Suburban back in the summer, suggesting that TES should be searching for a dead Caylee there....  But I'm sure there could have been any number of nefarious Anthony-istic angles for Brad's file-diving excursion on their behalf.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 16, 2010, 01:41:41 PM
Case highlights Fla. death penalty law

ORLANDO, Fla., Aug. 16 (UPI) -- If the murder trial of Casey Anthony ends in a conviction it will bring Florida's "hybrid" death penalty into the case, legal experts say.

Anthony is accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter Caylee Marie, whose remains were found near the family home in 2008, the Orlando (Fla.) Sentinel reported Sunday.

If convicted, the jury will recommend a sentence -- either the death penalty or life in prison -- but Florida is one of only three states, along with Alabama and Delaware, that allow judges to decide against a jury, the newspaper said.

In 30 states, a jury must vote unanimously to sentence someone to death. A vote of 11-1 for death in those states means a mandatory life sentence, whether the judge agrees or not.

In Florida, however, an 11-1 vote for death would be a strong show of support for a death sentence and judges would normally be inclined to rule that way, experts say.

But under the state's "hybrid" system they are not required to, and are free to ignore the jury's penalty decision.

The system has been "an area of controversy," said Richard Dieter, executive director of the Death Penalty Information Center in Washington.

"I don't think the average person realizes Florida is that different," Dieter said. "In all of those [other] states, the judge can't state, 'I'm going to impose death anyhow [despite the jury's sentence].'"

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2010/08/16/Case-highlights-Fla-death-penalty-law/UPI-34561281979773/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on August 16, 2010, 01:41:43 PM
Saw this posted from InSession  http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371460&page=13

 WESH just reported that there was a session in-chambers at the courthouse this morning and are waiting to find out more. Jose was asked about the resignation of Brad, but had not read the letter and did not have time to read/respond. mo, but a link should be up shortly.
__________________

Well that's interesting.....wonder who was at that in chambers meeting?
I sure hope Lady justice was there swinging a jack hammer at Baez.   ::MonkeyGavel::

OHMYGAWD!  I'll bet BOZO pooped his pants this morning. Can you imagine getting a called from JP's clerks saying JP wants you in his office at such and such a time when it comes out that you bare faced lied in a motion?  ::MonkeyDevil::  We may never find out what was said in this meeting but I would not want to be BOZO's pants ::MonkeyNoNo::

Sunny I was thinking the same thing. Ring, riiiiiing, Hello? Get your ass over to court RIGHT NOW!!!! Wonder if he had time to change out of his Sponge Bob Square Pants pj's???? Can you imagine facing the wrath of Perry without a Carmel mocha latte first thing in the morning???    ::MonkeyDevil::

I wish we had footage.   ::MonkeyGavel::
Me, too.  Now, that, I would pay for! ::MonkeyPeace::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on August 16, 2010, 01:43:50 PM
Apologies if this has been mentioned already but Simon Barrett [ August 15 ] has the reason why Jesse Grund's depo was cancelled---Baez & Co. forgot to serve Jesse with the papers.  Scroll down several paragraphs where Simon mentions it in his summary:

http://www.bloggernews.net/125077

Good Morning Monks!  Ono, thanks!!  this is a great way to start my day! ::MonkeyDevil::

Without doubt the most humorous event of the week was the non-depo of Richard and Jessie Grund by Baez and the kids. The news outlets had the story, but not the detail. All that was reported was that they had been canceled. In todays program we shared the gory details. Someone in the illustrious Baez operation forgot the minor detail of actually serving Jessie Grund with the papers! For months Baez has been squawking about the Grunds, yet he forgets to actually invite Jessie to the party? Of course now that he is on the Tax Payers dime, I guess that he has throttled back his level of activity.

Bwwwaaaahahahahah!  Too, too much fun today...Baez and his team can't even get the paperwork done?!?  I do believe most attorneys would double-check and maybe even triple-check that the paperwork was done and done properly!!  This is RICH!!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on August 16, 2010, 01:45:58 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/081310-conway-quits-anthonys-lawyer
Conway confirms he’s out of Anthony case

Updated: Monday, 16 Aug 2010, 7:52 AM EDT
Published : Monday, 16 Aug 2010, 7:39 AM EDT

ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Attorney Brad Conway, who has been representing Casey Anthony’s parents Cindy and George Anthony, has confirmed he will not longer be their attorney.

Early Monday Conway told FOX 35's Holly Bristow this has nothing to do with the Anthony’s or anything they've done. Instead he said it has everything to do with Casey’s attorney José Baez.

Conway said that a motion filed by the defense last week made regarding documents on 4000 Texas Equusearch volunteers, Baez claimed that Conway was given unrestricted access to look at those documents but only if he got the Anthony’s to sign a waiver of conflict of interest.

Conway’s said that's not the case, the defense never spoke to him before filing the motion and now he could potentially be called as a witness by Texas Equusearch's attorney if the judge holds a hearing on the Texas Equusearch paperwork.

Texas Equusearch is fighting to keep Casey Anthony’s attorneys from getting unrestricted access to their search documents.

not only is the Dufense inept, they are liars and aren't afraid to lie in motions!

Oooooohhhh....wonder what Cindy is thinking about all of this!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: 4 Donks on August 16, 2010, 01:50:51 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/081310-conway-quits-anthonys-lawyer
Conway confirms he’s out of Anthony case

Updated: Monday, 16 Aug 2010, 7:52 AM EDT
Published : Monday, 16 Aug 2010, 7:39 AM EDT

ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Attorney Brad Conway, who has been representing Casey Anthony’s parents Cindy and George Anthony, has confirmed he will not longer be their attorney.

Early Monday Conway told FOX 35's Holly Bristow this has nothing to do with the Anthony’s or anything they've done. Instead he said it has everything to do with Casey’s attorney José Baez.

Conway said that a motion filed by the defense last week made regarding documents on 4000 Texas Equusearch volunteers, Baez claimed that Conway was given unrestricted access to look at those documents but only if he got the Anthony’s to sign a waiver of conflict of interest.

Conway’s said that's not the case, the defense never spoke to him before filing the motion and now he could potentially be called as a witness by Texas Equusearch's attorney if the judge holds a hearing on the Texas Equusearch paperwork.

Texas Equusearch is fighting to keep Casey Anthony’s attorneys from getting unrestricted access to their search documents.

not only is the Dufense inept, they are liars and aren't afraid to lie in motions!

Oooooohhhh....wonder what Cindy is thinking about all of this!



She's thinking

More interviews
More money
I'm a STAR ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on August 16, 2010, 01:52:27 PM
Apologies if this has been mentioned already but Simon Barrett [ August 15 ] has the reason why Jesse Grund's depo was cancelled---Baez & Co. forgot to serve Jesse with the papers.  Scroll down several paragraphs where Simon mentions it in his summary:

http://www.bloggernews.net/125077

Good Morning Monks!  Ono, thanks!!  this is a great way to start my day! ::MonkeyDevil::

Without doubt the most humorous event of the week was the non-depo of Richard and Jessie Grund by Baez and the kids. The news outlets had the story, but not the detail. All that was reported was that they had been canceled. In todays program we shared the gory details. Someone in the illustrious Baez operation forgot the minor detail of actually serving Jessie Grund with the papers! For months Baez has been squawking about the Grunds, yet he forgets to actually invite Jessie to the party? Of course now that he is on the Tax Payers dime, I guess that he has throttled back his level of activity.

Bwwwaaaahahahahah!  Too, too much fun today...Baez and his team can't even get the paperwork done?!?  I do believe most attorneys would double-check and maybe even triple-check that the paperwork was done and done properly!!  This is RICH!!!


I know, Puzzler.  I'll bet it makes Judge Strickland giggle, too.  The trial I was on this past week was about a lawyer being sued because of this exact stuff.  He wasn't prepared for a custody trial for a three year old little girl, (I immediately thought of Caylee,) and told the Mom that it was a status hearing and she didn't have to appear.  Turns out he was wrong, it was a trial, the father's lawyer had his ducks in a row, Mom lost custody, Dad moved out of state with the little girl.  Upshot?  Mom hasn't seen her baby in TWO YEARS!!  Oh, and guess when the Mom found out she lost custody?  When the sheriff knocked on her door at 6 am and took the baby away.  It makes me sick.  Also, he was incredibly arrogant and combative on the stand.  Reminds me of Baez.  Incompetent fools, both of them.
But Justice was served.  She is going to see her child this weekend, and this lawyer is going to pay dearly for his mistake. 
 ::MonkeyGavel::
(Sorry if O/T)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on August 16, 2010, 01:56:08 PM
This morning's developments re: Brad Conway are confusing to say the least.

I found this helpful in trying to wrap my brain around it all:

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

Don't you just LOVE NeJame!!!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 01:56:43 PM
Saw this posted from InSession  http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371460&page=13

 WESH just reported that there was a session in-chambers at the courthouse this morning and are waiting to find out more. Jose was asked about the resignation of Brad, but had not read the letter and did not have time to read/respond. mo, but a link should be up shortly.
__________________

Well that's interesting.....wonder who was at that in chambers meeting?
I sure hope Lady justice was there swinging a jack hammer at Baez.   ::MonkeyGavel::

OHMYGAWD!  I'll bet BOZO pooped his pants this morning. Can you imagine getting a called from JP's clerks saying JP wants you in his office at such and such a time when it comes out that you bare faced lied in a motion?  ::MonkeyDevil::  We may never find out what was said in this meeting but I would not want to be BOZO's pants ::MonkeyNoNo::

Sunny I was thinking the same thing. Ring, riiiiiing, Hello? Get your ass over to court RIGHT NOW!!!! Wonder if he had time to change out of his Sponge Bob Square Pants pj's???? Can you imagine facing the wrath of Perry without a Carmel mocha latte first thing in the morning???    ::MonkeyDevil::

I wish we had footage.   ::MonkeyGavel::
Me, too.  Now, that, I would pay for! ::MonkeyPeace::

Can't you picture Judge Perry doing an eye roll and saying"Mr.Baez ,would you like to clean out your boxas before we get started?"   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: 4 Donks on August 16, 2010, 01:57:12 PM
Apologies if this has been mentioned already but Simon Barrett [ August 15 ] has the reason why Jesse Grund's depo was cancelled---Baez & Co. forgot to serve Jesse with the papers.  Scroll down several paragraphs where Simon mentions it in his summary:

http://www.bloggernews.net/125077

Good Morning Monks!  Ono, thanks!!  this is a great way to start my day! ::MonkeyDevil::

Without doubt the most humorous event of the week was the non-depo of Richard and Jessie Grund by Baez and the kids. The news outlets had the story, but not the detail. All that was reported was that they had been canceled. In todays program we shared the gory details. Someone in the illustrious Baez operation forgot the minor detail of actually serving Jessie Grund with the papers! For months Baez has been squawking about the Grunds, yet he forgets to actually invite Jessie to the party? Of course now that he is on the Tax Payers dime, I guess that he has throttled back his level of activity.

Bwwwaaaahahahahah!  Too, too much fun today...Baez and his team can't even get the paperwork done?!?  I do believe most attorneys would double-check and maybe even triple-check that the paperwork was done and done properly!!  This is RICH!!!


I know, Puzzler.  I'll bet it makes Judge Strickland giggle, too.  The trial I was on this past week was about a lawyer being sued because of this exact stuff.  He wasn't prepared for a custody trial for a three year old little girl, (I immediately thought of Caylee,) and told the Mom that it was a status hearing and she didn't have to appear.  Turns out he was wrong, it was a trial, the father's lawyer had his ducks in a row, Mom lost custody, Dad moved out of state with the little girl.  Upshot?  Mom hasn't seen her baby in TWO YEARS!!  Oh, and guess when the Mom found out she lost custody?  When the sheriff knocked on her door at 6 am and took the baby away.  It makes me sick.  Also, he was incredibly arrogant and combative on the stand.  Reminds me of Baez.  Incompetent fools, both of them.
But Justice was served.  She is going to see her child this weekend, and this lawyer is going to pay dearly for his mistake. 
 ::MonkeyGavel::
(Sorry if O/T)

Tree cheers for justice ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 16, 2010, 01:57:33 PM
Lyon is a talking head on a Chicago news station now 

(video)
http://www.wttw.com/main.taf?p=42,8,80&pid=HNjMgS7s0hUyqr4l7Vj_fouzOgdFA3gf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2010, 01:59:01 PM
Lyon is a talking head on a Chicago news station now 

(video)
http://www.wttw.com/main.taf?p=42,8,80&pid=HNjMgS7s0hUyqr4l7Vj_fouzOgdFA3gf
Well, it isn't called the Windy City for no reason  ::MonkeyTongue:: Windy City and City of Hot Air thanks to Lyon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Scatty on August 16, 2010, 01:59:36 PM
A lot of people, myself included, were wondering why NeJame showed Conway the TES files. But, if as he said, he did it as a courtesy to the A's, there's nothing that would have prevented him from showing the files to another attorney is there? As long as the files weren't tampered with?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on August 16, 2010, 02:02:32 PM
WESH has a video report:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

In the accompanying written story, it says:

WESH 2 reporter Bob Kealing showed Baez Conway's resignation letter Monday. While Baez was on his way into a meeting, he said he plans to make a comment when the meeting is over.

thanks Desi....this is another one of those times when BOZO should say no comment and keep on walking...
A silent Baez?  We should be so lucky.   ::MonkeyRoll::

I hope the judge puts a gag order on the attorneys at the beginning of KC's trial.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 16, 2010, 02:04:42 PM
WESH has a video report:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

In the accompanying written story, it says:

WESH 2 reporter Bob Kealing showed Baez Conway's resignation letter Monday. While Baez was on his way into a meeting, he said he plans to make a comment when the meeting is over.

thanks Desi....this is another one of those times when BOZO should say no comment and keep on walking...
A silent Baez?  We should be so lucky.   ::MonkeyRoll::

I hope the judge puts a gag order on the attorneys at the beginning of KC's trial.


Maybe Mr Rosebud can lend Judge P a roll of Henkle duct tape  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on August 16, 2010, 02:04:43 PM
Saw this posted from InSession  http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=371460&page=13

 WESH just reported that there was a session in-chambers at the courthouse this morning and are waiting to find out more. Jose was asked about the resignation of Brad, but had not read the letter and did not have time to read/respond. mo, but a link should be up shortly.
__________________

Well that's interesting.....wonder who was at that in chambers meeting?
I sure hope Lady justice was there swinging a jack hammer at Baez.   ::MonkeyGavel::

OHMYGAWD!  I'll bet BOZO pooped his pants this morning. Can you imagine getting a called from JP's clerks saying JP wants you in his office at such and such a time when it comes out that you bare faced lied in a motion?  ::MonkeyDevil::  We may never find out what was said in this meeting but I would not want to be BOZO's pants ::MonkeyNoNo::

Sunny I was thinking the same thing. Ring, riiiiiing, Hello? Get your ass over to court RIGHT NOW!!!! Wonder if he had time to change out of his Sponge Bob Square Pants pj's???? Can you imagine facing the wrath of Perry without a Carmel mocha latte first thing in the morning???    ::MonkeyDevil::

I wish we had footage.   ::MonkeyGavel::
Me, too.  Now, that, I would pay for! ::MonkeyPeace::

Can't you picture Judge Perry doing an eye roll and saying"Mr.Baez ,would you like to clean out your boxas before we get started?"   ::MonkeyDevil::
I almost had to change mine when I read that! ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on August 16, 2010, 02:05:19 PM
Monk - thanks for sharing your jury duty experience with us.     ::MonkeyGavel::

Sometimes I wonder if Bozo is making mistakes on purpose.    He can't possibly be that stupid, can he?    ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyHaHa::

So.....  who will be the next clown to step up and become a part of this 3-ring circus, now that Conway is out?     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on August 16, 2010, 02:05:36 PM
Lyon is a talking head on a Chicago news station now 

(video)
http://www.wttw.com/main.taf?p=42,8,80&pid=HNjMgS7s0hUyqr4l7Vj_fouzOgdFA3gf
Well, it isn't called the Windy City for no reason  ::MonkeyTongue:: Windy City and City of Hot Air thanks to Lyon.
I guess she huffed and she puffed and blew that City down!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 16, 2010, 02:06:04 PM
Attorney for Anthony's parents resigns
August 16, 2010 13:22 EDT

http://www.weartv.com/template/inews_wire/wires.regional.fl/2811508f-www.weartv.com.shtml


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on August 16, 2010, 02:06:07 PM
From Brad Conway's letter of resignation:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643776/detail.html

I will continue to support the Anthonys, will continue to attend hearings and the eventual trial and most importantly I will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.
Hi Desi...yep BC isn't going along with the Caylee is still alive or BOZO's lies.....
  ::HelloKitty:: Sunny --  Right.  I thought it was highly significant for him to word it that way. 

Cindy says she is not convinced Caylee is dead.
Cindy says the DNA proof is "junk science."
Cindy says if Caylee IS dead, it could have been an accident.

She just went on national TV and said this.  She said it under oath from the witness stand at the last hearing. 

Brad used the phrase "the killing of Caylee" very pointedly and deliberately, IMO.

I agree..BC's statement was carefully worded. In am not sure and will check with an attorney friend, but his stated reason for resigning is IMO an excuse, not a reason.  He was representing the A's....not Kc.  I believe he may have been looking for an excuse and found it.  He states he will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.  ????  I must be confused....what has he done thus far to search for the truth?  IMO this is all lawyer talk for let me try to confuse you while I get the hell outta Dodge!!  He will continue to attend the hearing and the eventual trial...of course he will, it's free advertising for him, he keeps his name and face out in public view.

With regret I am forced to resign as George and Cindy Anthonys attorney. The defense motion filed on August 9, 2010 contains allegations that are not in fact true. As an officer of the court I cannot stand idly by knowing allegations involving me have been misstated. I am now a witness to an inaccurate legal pleading filed in our court system. As such, I cannot continue in good conscience as a legal representative. George and Cindy Anthony have done nothing improper, it is the failure of the defense to verify the facts alleged in their motion that forces my withdrawal. I will continue to support the Anthonys, will continue to attend hearings and the eventual trial and most importantly I will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.

Does this mean that Brad can go back to being Cindy and George's attorney after this is legally dealt with?  If he wants to?  I hope THIS is the opportunity Brad has been looking for to get out of being the A's attorney...what better way...this way he can say...Oh, it's not the A's fault.  Bwwwaaahahaha!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on August 16, 2010, 02:06:20 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/081310-conway-quits-anthonys-lawyer
Conway confirms he’s out of Anthony case

Updated: Monday, 16 Aug 2010, 7:52 AM EDT
Published : Monday, 16 Aug 2010, 7:39 AM EDT

ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Attorney Brad Conway, who has been representing Casey Anthony’s parents Cindy and George Anthony, has confirmed he will not longer be their attorney.

Early Monday Conway told FOX 35's Holly Bristow this has nothing to do with the Anthony’s or anything they've done. Instead he said it has everything to do with Casey’s attorney José Baez.

Conway said that a motion filed by the defense last week made regarding documents on 4000 Texas Equusearch volunteers, Baez claimed that Conway was given unrestricted access to look at those documents but only if he got the Anthony’s to sign a waiver of conflict of interest.

Conway’s said that's not the case, the defense never spoke to him before filing the motion and now he could potentially be called as a witness by Texas Equusearch's attorney if the judge holds a hearing on the Texas Equusearch paperwork.

Texas Equusearch is fighting to keep Casey Anthony’s attorneys from getting unrestricted access to their search documents.

not only is the Dufense inept, they are liars and aren't afraid to lie in motions!

Oooooohhhh....wonder what Cindy is thinking about all of this!



She's thinking

More interviews
More money
I'm a STAR ::MonkeyDevil::
I'll just bet she does.
 ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 16, 2010, 02:07:45 PM
Attorney for Casey Anthony's Parents Steps Down

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20013748-504083.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 02:09:48 PM
Lyon is a talking head on a Chicago news station now 

(video)
http://www.wttw.com/main.taf?p=42,8,80&pid=HNjMgS7s0hUyqr4l7Vj_fouzOgdFA3gf
Well, it isn't called the Windy City for no reason  ::MonkeyTongue:: Windy City and City of Hot Air thanks to Lyon.

 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on August 16, 2010, 02:10:25 PM
From Brad Conway's letter of resignation:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643776/detail.html

I will continue to support the Anthonys, will continue to attend hearings and the eventual trial and most importantly I will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.
Hi Desi...yep BC isn't going along with the Caylee is still alive or BOZO's lies.....
  ::HelloKitty:: Sunny --  Right.  I thought it was highly significant for him to word it that way. 

Cindy says she is not convinced Caylee is dead.
Cindy says the DNA proof is "junk science."
Cindy says if Caylee IS dead, it could have been an accident.

She just went on national TV and said this.  She said it under oath from the witness stand at the last hearing. 

Brad used the phrase "the killing of Caylee" very pointedly and deliberately, IMO.

He punctuated his 'bread & butter' resignation letter brilliantly with an exclamation point, imo.  Well done.

Ooooohhh, I bet Brad has earned the wrath of Cindy with that statement (at least in Cindy's mind).



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 16, 2010, 02:12:12 PM


Can't you picture Judge Perry doing an eye roll and saying"Mr.Baez ,would you like to clean out your boxas before we get started?"   ::MonkeyDevil::
::MonkeyHaHa:: Mister Bye Ass.  I can hear him saying it right now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Sassycat on August 16, 2010, 02:13:34 PM


Can't you picture Judge Perry doing an eye roll and saying"Mr.Baez ,would you like to clean out your boxas before we get started?"   ::MonkeyDevil::
::MonkeyHaHa:: Mister Bye Ass.  I can hear him saying it right now.

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::    You monkeys are being very funny today.    ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: ISpy on August 16, 2010, 02:15:33 PM
Afternoon, everyone!  So, if I'm understanding this correctly, Team Baez is alleging that Mark Nejame required the Anthonys to sign a waiver of conflict of interest, in order for Brad Conway to be allowed unlimited access to the TES documents for searches near Hopespring Drive...whereas Baez had to go to court to obtain permission and his access was restricted.  Brad Conway resigned this morning, as a result if being implicated and more or less accused of making an "improper/ethically questionable deal" with Nejame, either to benefit the Anthonys or to their detriment (depending on whether the Defense blames the A's for Caylee's murder or mitigating circumstances contributing to Caylee's murder-and they choose to cooperate with this strategy to free Casey).  Whooo!   ::MonkeyEek::  Do I have that right?
What difference does any of this make to the case?  Is the defense planning to allege that Brad Conway stole or altered TES search documents or something?  Or is it that the A's have agreed to be somewhat implicated in the mitigating circumstances (George kicking and screaming as he's dragged along) and the waiver of conflict of interest messes that up?  To date the Anthonys' continue to make written and public statements, (that the area was searched by TES, no body was found, the body was placed by someone else there after Casey was imprisoned=Casey is innocent), after their attorney Brad Conway examined the documents thoroughly.  Is the underlying issue that their statements will be used constitute a documented pattern of willful obstruction of justice and impeding an investigation?  Is that the issue that would force Conway into essentially being a witness against his own clients in their legal proceedings?
O.k., been here waaaayyy to long today trying to follow this mess...responsibility calls.  Recap: Nejame=6, Baez=0, Anthonys= -2  God is firmly on Caylee's side.  I'd hate to be the opposition.  Mess with the Best and fall like the rest.  All MOO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on August 16, 2010, 02:18:59 PM


Can't you picture Judge Perry doing an eye roll and saying"Mr.Baez ,would you like to clean out your boxas before we get started?"   ::MonkeyDevil::
::MonkeyHaHa:: Mister Bye Ass.  I can hear him saying it right now.

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::    You monkeys are being very funny today.    ::MonkeyHaHa::
  ::MonkeyWink:: Hi Sass - it puts the true meaning into 3 Ring Circus that is for sure.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 16, 2010, 02:19:21 PM
If team Bobo are still in with Judge P I bet they are ugly coping  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: monkalicious on August 16, 2010, 02:20:52 PM
If team Bobo are still in with Judge P I bet they are ugly coping  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Did Baez bring his own Stripper Pole?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: BooMonkey on August 16, 2010, 02:21:50 PM
If team Bobo are still in with Judge P I bet they are ugly coping  ::MonkeyHaHa::

They've been ugly coping since the day they were born!  ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: ISpy on August 16, 2010, 02:21:57 PM
From Brad Conway's letter of resignation:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643776/detail.html

I will continue to support the Anthonys, will continue to attend hearings and the eventual trial and most importantly I will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.
Hi Desi...yep BC isn't going along with the Caylee is still alive or BOZO's lies.....
  ::HelloKitty:: Sunny --  Right.  I thought it was highly significant for him to word it that way. 

Cindy says she is not convinced Caylee is dead.
Cindy says the DNA proof is "junk science."
Cindy says if Caylee IS dead, it could have been an accident.

She just went on national TV and said this.  She said it under oath from the witness stand at the last hearing. 

Brad used the phrase "the killing of Caylee" very pointedly and deliberately, IMO.

He punctuated his 'bread & butter' resignation letter brilliantly with an exclamation point, imo.  Well done.

Ooooohhh, I bet Brad has earned the wrath of Cindy with that statement (at least in Cindy's mind).



O.k., one parting shot. LOL!  If she angrily kicked Tim and TES out for far less (they merely stated they planned to search for Caylee, alive or deceased).  Let's see if Cindy comes out swinging at Brad and trashing him in an interview/statement shortly.  Anything less, and we'll know without a doubt, whether or not she really believes "Caylee is still alive."  JMO
'Bye!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Desdemona on August 16, 2010, 02:24:58 PM
From Brad Conway's letter of resignation:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643776/detail.html

I will continue to support the Anthonys, will continue to attend hearings and the eventual trial and most importantly I will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.
Hi Desi...yep BC isn't going along with the Caylee is still alive or BOZO's lies.....
  ::HelloKitty:: Sunny --  Right.  I thought it was highly significant for him to word it that way. 

Cindy says she is not convinced Caylee is dead.
Cindy says the DNA proof is "junk science."
Cindy says if Caylee IS dead, it could have been an accident.

She just went on national TV and said this.  She said it under oath from the witness stand at the last hearing. 

Brad used the phrase "the killing of Caylee" very pointedly and deliberately, IMO.
He punctuated his 'bread & butter' resignation letter brilliantly with an exclamation point, imo.  Well done.
Ooooohhh, I bet Brad has earned the wrath of Cindy with that statement (at least in Cindy's mind).
Brad's statement contains what amounts to a vow:  that he

"will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony."

I'm curious... he will continue to search?  in what capacity?  After all, he is not an investigator... nor even the Anthonys' lawyer any more... he will SEARCH?  for the FULL TRUTH?  Hmmm... Now why do I find it so intriguing that he chose to include that in his resignation letter?

It almost sounds like a promise to Caylee... or a threat to the Anthonys?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 02:26:59 PM
Monk - thanks for sharing your jury duty experience with us.     ::MonkeyGavel::

Sometimes I wonder if Bozo is making mistakes on purpose.    He can't possibly be that stupid, can he?    ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyHaHa::

So.....  who will be the next clown to step up and become a part of this 3-ring circus, now that Conway is out?     

Sassy,I wonder the same thing about Bozo myself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 16, 2010, 02:27:37 PM
From Brad Conway's letter of resignation:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643776/detail.html

I will continue to support the Anthonys, will continue to attend hearings and the eventual trial and most importantly I will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony.
Hi Desi...yep BC isn't going along with the Caylee is still alive or BOZO's lies.....
  ::HelloKitty:: Sunny --  Right.  I thought it was highly significant for him to word it that way. 

Cindy says she is not convinced Caylee is dead.
Cindy says the DNA proof is "junk science."
Cindy says if Caylee IS dead, it could have been an accident.

She just went on national TV and said this.  She said it under oath from the witness stand at the last hearing. 

Brad used the phrase "the killing of Caylee" very pointedly and deliberately, IMO.
He punctuated his 'bread & butter' resignation letter brilliantly with an exclamation point, imo.  Well done.
Ooooohhh, I bet Brad has earned the wrath of Cindy with that statement (at least in Cindy's mind).
Brad's statement contains what amounts to a vow:  that he

"will continue to search for the full truth regarding the killing of Caylee Marie Anthony."

I'm curious... he will continue to search?  in what capacity?  After all, he is not an investigator... nor even the Anthonys' lawyer any more... he will SEARCH?  for the FULL TRUTH?  Hmmm... Now why do I find it so intriguing that he chose to include that in his resignation letter?

It almost sounds like a promise to Caylee... or a threat to the Anthonys?

or fulfilment of a movie/book/mini series deal so he can get paid for the last 19 months?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 16, 2010, 02:29:24 PM
I want to see footage of team Bobo coming out of the courthouse this morning.  The look on The Jar's face will tell a story in itself I am hoping.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 02:33:39 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/08/brad-conway.html
Monday, August 16, 2010
Brad Conway's Statement Analyzed


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on August 16, 2010, 02:34:03 PM
WESH has a video report:

http://www.wesh.com/news/24643120/detail.html

In the accompanying written story, it says:

WESH 2 reporter Bob Kealing showed Baez Conway's resignation letter Monday. While Baez was on his way into a meeting, he said he plans to make a comment when the meeting is over.

thanks Desi....this is another one of those times when BOZO should say no comment and keep on walking...
A silent Baez?  We should be so lucky.   ::MonkeyRoll::

I hope the judge puts a gag order on the attorneys at the beginning of KC's trial.


Maybe Mr Rosebud can lend Judge P a roll of Henkle duct tape  ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Puzzler on August 16, 2010, 02:38:03 PM
Just think...we're nowhere even near the trial yet!   ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: msmarple on August 16, 2010, 02:47:46 PM
Hummm. In this flurry of activity - I notice we're on Page 50 and this thread should be LOCKING ... (not that I'm in charge of noticing that :lol: )


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: Ono on August 16, 2010, 02:48:38 PM
Just think...we're nowhere even near the trial yet!   ::MonkeyTongue::



LOL  I had best begin to double up on my vitamins now!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on August 16, 2010, 02:49:47 PM
InSession reporting now……preliminary resolution reached on TES volunteer search records.

I just caught the last 30 seconds of jinxasaurus talking, so I have no idea what the resolution is. Can't find any other media outlets posting about it yet.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: tupelohoney on August 16, 2010, 02:52:31 PM
http://humbleopinionforum.net/2010/08/16/anthonys-ad-for-an-attorney-needed-jayne-weintraub/

Written on 16 August 2010 at 11:29 by Humbleopinion aka FLAB
Anthony’s ad for an Attorney needed, Jayne Weintraub?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on August 16, 2010, 03:00:02 PM
WESH reporting there was a session in-chambers at courthouse this morning. Jose was asked about the resignation of Brad, but had not read the letter and did not have time to read it or respond.


Hopefully a link will be up soon!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 16, 2010, 03:00:11 PM
http://mhutch.blogspot.com/2010/08/conway-quits-as-attorney-of-cindy.html
Monday, August 16, 2010
Conway Quits As Attorney Of Cindy & George (Casey Anthony Case)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2010, 03:16:03 PM
http://humbleopinionforum.net/2010/08/16/anthonys-ad-for-an-attorney-needed-jayne-weintraub/

Written on 16 August 2010 at 11:29 by Humbleopinion aka FLAB
Anthony’s ad for an Attorney needed, Jayne Weintraub?
Oh no, may my prediction not come true.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: klaasend on August 16, 2010, 03:18:55 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/moderator%20pics/MODLOCK1.gif)

Please move to Caylee #169

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8364.0

Sorry about that  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #168 8/09/10 -
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on August 16, 2010, 03:19:18 PM
 ::MonkeyBike::

Hold on....either Klaas or I will get the lock.