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Good morning, monkeys!!

 ::MonkeyDance::

Good morning Puzzler.

Quiet !!!

I'm trying to sleep !!!

*tosses bananas to offending monkeys*

Hope you tossed in a great big bunch of yellow bananas!   ::MonkeyTongue::

Mornin' Glorious Monkey!!!  Off to work I go and I hope you guys enjoy the day if you have it off.  Has anyone seen or heard from our dear Wyks??????  I don't remember her saying she was going OOT.  I do hope she is okay.  Maybe life is just full and fun for her right now.  It's been a few days since posting Wyks if you happen to be reading and we just miss you and hope you are okay!!!  See ya'll later.

Just wanted to stop by and say what a great group you are. I hope today is the day that Kyron comes home. School starts tomorrow and it would be so great if he could be home in time for that. Even though I know it would be quite sometime before he returned to school. 

You are doing such a great job on here it's obvious any help I can offer isn't needed in this group.

I will stop by on occasion to read and see if you have found any new info or located any new info on those you are researching.

I hope everyone enjoys their barbq's today and time spent with their families.

Not true LD! We need every Monkey! It's an extra set of eyes and brain knowledge. Besides, I have the key to the cage and I'm not letting you out!  ::MonkeyKiss::  ::MonkeyWink::

Morning Monkeys! Prayers going out that Kyron is found soon!

Wow CBB! That is gorgeous! Did you make that?  ::MonkeyAngel::

I have to agree with Sassi on this!  ::MonkeyWink::

Thx, Sassifrass! Yeah, I saw the picture of them on the beach and loved it, so I wanted to do something with it. Kyron's so cute, it's not hard. He looks so happy there. It breaks my heart.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Well, I'll tell ya CBB, It is sure wonderful to see your artistic work! You've brought out a lot of emotion in that pic. You can see the love that DY and Kyron share.  ::MonkeyAngel::

sigh..... Where is Kyron?  ::MonkeyTears::

I agree with them both!    ::piggy::   Lazydog, don't make us banana whip you!    ::MonkeyDevil::

There's one thing, well, many things, that have been bothering me about this case.

Regarding the MFH plot and the debacled 'sting' that went down with the LS, Rudy Sanchez. If Rudy was involved with Kyron's disappearance, along with Terri, why in the world would she call 911. She's not a stupid person. There is no way in heck that she would take a chance and raise a flag if he was involved with her in Kyron being missing. It doesn't make sense.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Think about it. If you committed a crime with someone, the same person you tried to hire to off your husband, and they came to your home demanding money, would you call the police on them? No way, no how. This person holds too much info. I'm just not sure whether I believe LE regarding the MFH plot and I'm not sure whether Rudy had anything to do with the disappearance of Kyron.

It just doesn't make sense.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

If Rudy or someone were involved only with the MFH plot, it would be his word against hers, and Terri thinks everyone believes whatever she says. We don't know everything LE was after that day, and we don't know as a true fact that it was unsuccessful.

It is doubtful he had anything to do with Kyron, but he may have some info regarding Kyron or Terri that would be helpful. LE would not take a chance with Kyron's safety.

Everything we hear must be taken with a grain of salt ... except that Kyron is missing.

Grey, I appreciate your comment and opinion but we DO know that she called 911 and we DO know, according to the RO court documents released, that the LS, supposedly RS, has told LE that TH tried to hire him to off KH.

The point that I'm trying to make is by Terri's actions, calling 911, it clearly shows, IMO, that she would not have called if she had illegal ties with him. It doesn't make sense and I'm sticking to my opinion.  ::MonkeyTongue::

It makes sense if she were trying to cover herself by calling 911. Her word against his.

Well that would lead LE to questioning him. Remember, the MFH plot was not leaked out at that time. So again, I call BS.  ::MonkeyCool::

CBB I posted something on your thread  ::MonkeyAngel::

Heading there now, Sass!   ::MonkeyWink::

I'm going to have to get going in a few minutes to run errands but I'll be back on later. I just wanted to wish everyone a Happy Labor Day!  ::MonkeyAngel::

Sorry for the O/T

Hopefully, God willing, we will hear some good news about Kyron!  ::MonkeyAngel::

monkeys very sad news for the pimpollo orphanage,Madre Estella passed away
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8387.msg1224630#msg1224630

 ::HelloKitty::

I had someone in my neighborhood actually try an MFH .  LE wired the guy who was supposed to be the assassin and they got the guy because of that.  Until that time, it's he said, she said.  To me the MFH sting was totally believable because of the experience of that person in the neighborhood.  He didn't serve that much time either.  Under 10 years for sure.

LE found the landscaper through whatever records they searched.  It could be cell, bank or computer.  Or it could even have been someone telling LE about the guy.

TH is so used to lying that she figures she can get through anything.  And don't forget, she asked this guy to be an assassin, and now he's at HER house.  What is she supposed to do?  Ask him to go away.  I can't see any alternative except for her to call LE and bluff it out.

She's a nice little white woman and he's not.

Events Planned For Missing Boy's 8th Birthday[/b]
POSTED: 7:41 am PDT September 6, 2010
UPDATED: 8:14 am PDT September 6, 2010

PORTLAND, Ore. --  Kyron Horman's parents said they are planning celebrations for the missing boy's upcoming eighth birthday on Thursday.

One event will take place in Medford, where Kyron's biological mother lives, on Thursday.

Another is planned for Sunday from 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. at the Wilsonville Family Fun Center and Bullwinkle's Restaurant.

Proceeds from that event will go to the Kyron Horman Foundation, and there will be free digital fingerprinting, free DNA kits and child safety information at the event.

http://www.kptv.com/news/24897045/detail.html

Sept. 12: Kyron Horman birthday celebration and fundraiser
Submitted by KATU.com Staff
Sunday, September 5th, 5:51 pm
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WILSONVILLE, Ore. - Kyron Horman's eighth birthday is now just four days away, and volunteers along with his family are planning a public celebration - even in his absence.

The women who run the "Missing Kyron Horman" Facebook page are organizing the party. It will take place at The Family Fun Center and Bullwinkle's Restaurant in Wilsonville. Kyron's parents say this is one of his favorite places to go, especially to play putt-putt golf.

Free digital finger printing will be available for kids - and the Clackamas County K-9 unit will make an appearance. There also are expected to be free DNA kits and safety information, "along with McGruff the crime dog," said Judy Maher, who of the Facebook page founders.

The event on Sept. 12 also is a fundraiser, with proceeds going to the Kyron Horman Foundation.

"Proceeds will ... aid in the continued search for Kyron," Maher tells KATU.

The event runs from 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. Sunday. Birthday cake and ice cream will be served at 2 p.m.

I hear you Sass. It does not make sense to me either. The only way that it even begins to make any sense is if Rudy contacted Terri prior and gave her a heads up? I don't know, there are soooooo many things that don't add up in my mind. I guess I don't think the way that Terri does, thank goodness!

I have to agree with Grey that this is possible. LE was led to LS because of TH's phone records. She knew almost immediately after Kyron disappeared that the public was crucifying her, she knew she had failed 2 LD tests, and she knew she was becoming the focus of the investigation. She probably smelled a setup the minute she saw LS's face. If she knows it is a setup, calling the police would, in her mind, take the heat off of her. If she called police, everyone would discount that she knew anything of the MFH plot, after all if she did that, why would she call. If that makes any sense.

Wall of Hope fence installation, Kyron's birthday coming up
 By KATU.com Staff
Story Published: Sep 6, 2010 at 1:34 PM PDT/Story Updated: Sep 6, 2010 at 1:40 PM PDT
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Kyron/100906_missing.jpg)
PORTLAND, Ore. - Kyron Horman, the missing boy whose disappearance has ripped through the hearts of so many, will be turning 8 years old on Thursday and a public celebration is planned in his absence.

Kyron was last seen June 4 after he was dropped off at school and despite thousands of tips, what happened to him remains a mystery.

While the search for Kyron continues, folks do not want to let his birthday go by unnoticed. The women who run the Missing Kyron Horman Facebook page are organizing a party at the Family Fun Center & Bullwinkle's Restaurant in Wilsonville, which was one of Kyron's favorite places to go.

The event will be held Sunday, Sept. 12 from 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. (cake and ice cream will be served at 2 p.m.). Proceeds will go to the Kyron Horman Foundation to aid in the continued search.

There will be free digital fingerprinting, free DNA kits and safety information. The Clackamas County Canine Unit will be there as well with McGruff the Crime Dog.

On Thursday, the day of Kyron's birthday, there will be a celebration at West Main Church of Christ in Medford at 7 p.m. They will be playing music that he loves. The church is at 1701 W. Main St. Call (541) 772-9640 for more information.

Fence posts were installed this weekend for the new Wall of Hope location at Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue's Skyline station, just down the street from the school where it used to stand.

Since Kyron's disappearance, a chain link fence at Skyline Elementary became a central point where the community could drop off balloons, pictures, toys and notes for Kyron. With school starting, though, the boy's family decided to have it moved.

The fence was taken to the new location a week ago but has not yet been put up. That will happen on Tuesday.

For those who wish to visit the Wall of Hope, you will need to park away from the fire station.

"We know the public will want to park on district property to view the Wall of Hope and they're welcome to visit, but please remember that the Skyline Fire Station is a working fire station and fire apparatus do depart and return frequently," said TVF&R Communications Officer Brian Barker. "Because of this we cannot allow the public to park, turn around or stage on the driveway in front of the station."
http://www.katu.com/news/local/102298929.html

The smartest thing to date that Terri has done, is hire an attorney. 

The more we look into this case, the more complicated it is becoming.

People talk about Occam's Razor- what would be the simplest explaination for a 7 yr old to disappear from his school?

Thanks Brandi! I wish I new where to get one of those pins!  ::MonkeyAngel::

I agree with Grey & pfaubush - if I remember correctly, the landscaper didn't come back "alone" - that in itself would send up a red flag IMO - I would also think the landscaper would probably have been very nervous  ::rhino:: so another "red flag"

Sassi~

Check your mail.

Oh sureeee. Do the Monkey pile up on sassifrass!  ::MonkeyHaHa:: All is good, but I still disagree and I'm sticking to my feeling!  ::MonkeyTongue::  ::MonkeyCool::

Got it and re-sent you one!  ::MonkeyTongue::

I have a surprise for you Monkeys!  ::MonkeyAngel:: You'll see it either today or tomorrow at the latest, hopefully.  ::MonkeyCool::

nicubird and zippiddy, you sure are quiet today.  ::MonkeyTongue::

MK you have mail.   ::MonkeyCool::

KLLLLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSS!    
                        


                                  ::MonkeyDevil::


Did you leave Wyks locked up in the last cage?  Has anyone seen her?  I don't remember her posting anything about not being here and she's usually on daily.  I promise I'm not nosey, just wondering and always looking for any of our Monkey's MIA!

Klaas, Respectfully, I understand your reasoning, but the majority of us don't use these emails as our regular emails, so we don't check them very often, and when we're working on something regarding the Kyron case, sometimes we are at a standstill until we hear from another Monkey. There are some things that we don't want to post publically because we don't have the facts yet. It would waste time and too much time has already gone by since Kyron's been missing.

Oh, it's beautiful, CBB.  It gives me goose bumps!

 ::dogwag::

I haven't heard from Wyks but I'll check her last posts.

I understand the not posting.  I would think that if you have been emailing people with these email addys that you don't normally use right now you WOULD be checking them. 

This is one of the reasons we don't have PM's.  People don't like seeing others say "check your PM's", makes some people feel left out.

Well I have a business addy that I have to keep open during the day, but I understand what your saying and point taken.  ::MonkeyAngel::

http://www.missingkids.spruz.com/



What CRAP!

Sorry, I should elaborate. I think that having to pull the site based on JW calling libel sucks!

"grain of salt" pfaubush (IMO)

Jason has the right to get a lawyer and sue for libel.

How do you know that Grey? Did you even see what the person on that web site posted about him prior to the notice? Just curious.

I'm curious to know what was on there too. Anyone suing for libel has to prove that what was being said is not true and that it has caused them some sort of damages.

I am only saying that Jason has the right to sue for libel if a web site has written material, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that casts a negative light on Jason.

I have never been to the linked web site before, and I have not seen what the person posted. I have seen some of what has been posted here, and "negative" could be used to describe some of the posts.

It is not unusual for someone to sue a web site containing negative info about them. Not sure, but they may be able to go after the individual posters.

This persons site was focused on the search for Kyron. I can't imagine someone posting something about a specific person that intertwined in this case without facts backing them up. If that did happen, then shame on them, but if they had facts based on their statement, and did a retraction based on fear of being sued, then I understand. JMO.

The owner of that site is a poster here. Maybe she will chime in?

We Monkeys don't make open ended statements without having a back up. That's why we always make sure there is a link to tie in with their statements. There have been opinions, and those posts were stated as such, IMO. You can't sue someone for having an opinion.

Right, nor can you sue when someone asks questions.

Gosh I cant resist though I probably should..
I told Jason that I dont think I libelled him.
On my site I linked to other sites containing information and theories that I suspected were true.
To be guilty of libel I would have to state something that I knew to be untrue - I dont think I ever did that.
However, I am a simple girl with no legal knowledge and no money so I am withdrawing the site with an apology.
Otherwise I have to go to court against a man who allegedly had six supreme court nominations.. ;-)

When Jason came over here, he wanted to set the record straight.  When he left, he left us with more questions unanswered than questions answered.

Umm, I think you have to be appointed by the president to be appointed to the Supreme Court and have to be an attorney.

Is Jason 'in" with Obama and is he an Atty?

How come no one ever questioned why his father was involved with kiddie porn?

If they did, why was it over looked?  Granted, it's not JW, but still you gotta figure that stuff would come out being a public figure and all. 

I hope everyone enjoyed their holiday.

No BBQ for me today - sadly discovered the BBQ rusted from the inside out because of the rain of the past month.

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About the private emailing, I do agree that too many "you got mail" or "check your mail" on the discussion board makes the rest of us feel kinda left out.

It makes me feel there is some sort of private party that I wasn't invited to, or some worthy subject being discussed that I'm missing out on.

In summary, it brings back childhood issues of lack of breastfeeding, barefoot walking to school, constant comparisons to the village idiot... and so forth and so on.

But... I really don't mind it, the thing on the board thing.

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About Kyron, I think that the fate of the little boy is more close to home than many of us want to think it is.

The answer is right in front of us.

All the zany and wacky theories are worth exploring, but it is hard to prove any concrete connection to Kyron as of yet.

I also understand that the lack of evidence released by the authorities is driving all of us to try to connect the dots to make a whole picture... with a lot of the dots missing.

:D

Ok, I gotta tell you Monkeys. IMO this is giving me a headache and I'm going to bake some bread, and watch some t.v.  ::MonkeyTongue::

I'm out for the night and hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to post the Monkey present!  ::MonkeyKiss::

Goodnight Monkeys! May our sweet angel Kyron be brought home soon.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Everyone has that right...doesn't mean they would win though.  I suppose if I were in msollicito's shoes, I may have done the same thing. I agree with you msc...  sounds like it would be a hassle either way and he's not worth your time.       ::MonkeyWink::

Anyone serving on the CRB is considered an Oregon Supreme Court Appointee.

Ok I couldn't resist.  I just found this doing a search on the Internet.  Wasn't expecting to find this but here it is.

This is not my opinion but it is out there on the internet for all to search out and read. You will be surprised but first read the question and where the answer is actually posted.

Who achieved 6 State Supreme Court Appointments by the Chief Justice before his 39th birthday?


In: Urban Legends, Supreme Court [Edit categories]
Edit to include link-MB :http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_achieved_6_State_Supreme_Court_Appointments_by_the_Chief_Justice_before_his_39th_birthday

Dang! See what happens when you get older you just forget to post the link.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_achieved_6_State_Supreme_Court_Appointments_by_the_Chief_Justice_before_his_39th_birthday

Oops!  Got in the wrong box!!  Sorry!

 ::monkeyscissors::

About Kyron, I think that the fate of the little boy is more close to home than many of us want to think it is.

The answer is right in front of us.

All the zany and wacky theories are worth exploring, but it is hard to prove any concrete connection to Kyron as of yet.

I also understand that the lack of evidence released by the authorities is driving all of us to try to connect the dots to make a whole picture... with a lot of the dots missing.


I agree. Sometimes what is the most obvious is overlooked. All the "odd" links to so many people...one would not have to necessarily know all of them to pass an "item" along...a to b to c to d...etc...a knows b but not c, b does not know d, etc...does that make sense? I guess what I am trying to put into words is the original person who took Kyron would not necessarily know where he went after they handed him off to "b"(thus, "I don't know where Kyron is" would be a true statement)...and so on
I am having a hard time trying to make sense here..it is somewhat of a feeling that has been growing over the last couple of weeks. I am frustrated      ::MonkeyMad::    that I am having such trouble with turning it into words...   but I do know when I read Moosee's post, it makes sense and I really feel it is something right there (on the tip of the tongue so to speak) that will be is the key.

  ::MonkeyCheer4::    LOVE THAT!   Then it's on to get Kyron, right!    ::FlyingFrog::

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy315/TomboyKetchup/smiley-laugh-dog.gif)

Hilarious! Thanks.

If only one knew where to look for him.

I hope that whoever knows where he is and is not speaking, pays dearly when it is sentencing time.

Be careful It Moosee, better make sure y'all have a designated driver there.    ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi Monkeys

I have been watching and reading and wondered if there is a manual about all these monkey behaviors and rules. Do I have to research a certain amount of information monthly, for instance? Thank for letting me watch you guys swing in the trees!

 ::HelloKitty:: welcome APB
as to a "manual"  ::MonkeyEek:: if there is one .... I wasn't made privy to it  ::MonkeyDevil:: 

ooops! meant to include a link to some "police monkey" pic's/avatars (IF you want one to go with your APB nickname that is)   ::HelloKitty::

http://www.google.com/images?q=monkey+police&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=Hq8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=iv&source=lnms&tbs=isch:1&ei=gJyFTL7cNsGblgfbkd2IDg&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&ved=0CAsQ_AU&biw=1017&bih=765 (http://www.google.com/images?q=monkey+police&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=Hq8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=iv&source=lnms&tbs=isch:1&ei=gJyFTL7cNsGblgfbkd2IDg&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&ved=0CAsQ_AU&biw=1017&bih=765)

(http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/img/police-monkey-eyes-small.JPG)  just an example :)

Thanks for letting me know! ::MonkeyConfused:: This is how this case has been making me feel!

Hi APB and welcome to Scared Monkeys.  There isn't a manual regarding monkey behaviors and rules, but posters are asked to be civil to one another, no posting spam, porn and etc.  When bringing articles and information over from other places, a link is to be provided.  Research is optional, but is appreciated.  Also- this is one of our missing person's threads, and posts in here should be on topic (about Kyron and the case), although some off topic posting is allowed to keep things friendly .  Since you've been watching and reading, you may be aware there is a whole big forum, which includes other cases, Musings for open discussion and etc.  If you click on "Home" in the upper left hand of the page, you can find the index page, which may help you navigate.   ::MonkeySlide:: Again, welcome to Scared Monkeys. 

APB - if you need help with an avatar, there are two here that are talented and helpful, CBB and Brandi.  The links to their threads are:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg1224351#new
BRANDI'S AVATAR SECTION
 
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8273.msg1221885#new
 SUMMER AVATARS: GET YOURS DECORATED!


Avatar's should be discussed in the above two threads, and not in Missing Person's threads.   ::MonkeyWink::

Welcome!

It's pretty much a do-as-you-go research place.

:D

How bout that monkey porn that was posted the other day?

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::

Believe it or not, I understood every word. Half of me agrees and the other half says it is totally the opposite. My opinions in this case have as many loop-de-doos as the case itself.

Wow! Monkey porn?! Who knew! I am not big into judging others, what happens in privacy, adults, etc is personal. However, I have been surprised by how much discussion I have seen regarding porn, sexting, special clubs in this case. It just reminds me that things are often not what they appear to be!

Welcome APB! There's no manual, but everyone around here is nice enough to share what they can. I can honestly say that of all the forums I've ever been to, this is the only one that made me feel at home right off the bat and not worried about just jumping in with both feet and posting. You can just feel the monkey love.

 ::monkeywine2::

<<<<<< Playboy monkey. Can't you tell by the ears?   ::MonkeyTongue::

That was me........Keeping it light!

Haha!!

Actually, I had seen it before in one of the old threads. It's shockingly funny!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Thank you so much to all you friendly monkeys! I think I am going to like it here!
By the way, whoever made the pic of Kyron and Desiree with the kite!, I love it! It makes me feel hopeful, and I haven't been feeling very hopeful lately. I am still not sure what to think, in terms of outcome for the family, but clearly they have a great deal of strength to deal with the events to date. I am sure they will emerge changed people, in any case! I hope they have a chance to be with their son again, in a happy way!

(Bolded by me)

CBB did the artwork/pic with Kyron & Desiree with the kite.  I hope Kyron can be found soon. 

Welcome APB!!

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k121/belladonna0956/kong/monkey-7.jpg)

New Monkey!!

 ::MonkeyCool::  No, such rules, lol

brandi and cbb, if you dont mind im going to get some of your pics, and send them
to my congressman,and senator, and show them what the missing children really look
like, not just some missing poster they usually see, they touch my heart,im sure they
will touch theirs too,and hopefully they will understand, we need tougher laws against
S.O.

Was checking Insession Trials, and they have a poll, about who the users think took Kyron.

The majority, 58.95% think TH did it.

The second high scores go to "Other", with 21.05%

The other choices were: school employee, lucky pervert, and older student.

What is a little surprising to me is that the school employee was voted by only 4.21%.

That means most people don't think anyone from the school did it, including the teachers, sub-teachers, cafeteria workers, custodians, and the landscaper/lawn mower guy.

cw- PLEASE ask Brandi and CBB before you do anything with their pics.  They've both been very accommodating in the past about sharing their artwork, but I think you should ask them directly and get an answer from them before going ahead and using their work as a courtesy.   

yep ill wait on them,thats what the if you dont mind,part was, should have been
more detailed i guess, like hey can i send some of these too...

Brandi and CBB do very beautiful work.

CBB redid this photo from:

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k121/belladonna0956/58512_1506336189980_1581555486_31205712_4609959_n.jpg)

Very creative!!

KUDOS!

Thanks CW.  Maybe you could leave them a note in the avatar threads...   ::rhino::  I think you have a great idea.  The artwork would send a very powerful message, imo.  It affects me when I see it here.   ::MonkeyAngel::

muffyB thanks ill go look for those threads

Sorry cw, here they are:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg1224351#new
BRANDI'S AVATAR SECTION
 
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8273.msg1221885#new
 SUMMER AVATARS: GET YOURS DECORATED!   (This is thread CBB is currently using for avatars)

thanks got it, we better get back on topic b4 the klaas gets after us
  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Yep, and I might have to report myself.   ::MonkeyTongue::

i tried that one time didnt work, something like
you cant report your self that makes no sense
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

here is what you get
An Error Has Occurred!
You can't report your own post to the moderator, that doesn't make sense! 

Thank you so much!  Good night everyone, sweet dreams, hugs and kisses to our babies and little Ky!

Awww melisb... you're so sweet, thank you!   ::MonkeyAngel::


Am here, just frustrated as all get out with this case.  Sometimes it seems like we're just going 'round in circles.  Think I got dizzy and fell off a branch.  Of course it could have been too many of these:  ::monkeymargarita::


Right now it's just so frustrating, I'm more than ready to rip my hair out.  But then I'd just be drunk, dizzy, AND bald.  Mwahahaha...  ::MonkeyTongue::   

You'd be a nastee monkey!!

(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp235/baldicus/bald-monkey-4.gif)

LMAO!!!   ::MonkeyJnBox::

wyks, i knew you would stumble home, if you hadnt i would have put
out a missing poster, and no hangover cool, cure for a hangover is
BANANAS, for real replaces the frutose sugar and the potassium, you
lose from the drink
 ::monkeywine2::

It's broken.  I've got our tech guy looking into it but still no fix yet.

klaas

but klaas this is funnier

cw618


fix it if you have to, silly is setting time to go
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

OMG!    :smt046    MK, where you find this stuff! hahaha!
Glad to see you wyks, and  melisb, thanks for missing her    ::MonkeyAngel::

Tomorrow Skyline student begin a new school year.  With all the good thoughts and prayers out there, lets hope this little man shows up at school tomorrow. 

That would be a miracle!!

We should find a monkey for Kyron
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k121/belladonna0956/kong/baboon_young.jpg)

LOL, that part will remain the same but the "Report to Moderator" function is not working at all and hasn't since we came to this new server. 

Evening/Morning, everyone!  Doing my usual check to see if Kyron's been found yet. Recently did some grocery shopping and thought of Kyron walking through the parking lot on the way in.  Thinking about how it would feel going to grocery shop, knowing your child was missing...IMPOSSIBLE!  Then thinking about Terri, supposedly going to Fred Myers after "leaving" Kyron.  If she did anything to/with Kyron or caused him to taken in any way, she's inhuman (as in not human).  Such a person would have to be both heartless and merciless.  I wonder if Terri's children have always been props to her.  A true human being could not be so desensitized to another's pain/fear/harm, as to harm them or knowingly allow harm to come to them (even in the name of revenge).  A real mother (step, adoptive, or biological) would die first, rather than have the child scared in traumatic way or harmed.  If a child I loved went missing, I'd be inviting LE to search and interview every person who's ever had contact with me, if it helps to get the child back...be my guest.  Innocent people don't conspire with friends to buy throw-away, "untraceable" phones.  They generally don't spend time sexting men they've become recently acquainted with (if we're to believe Michael Cook) either.  Something really stinks here.  All MOO
So, heading up the parking lot wondering aloud, "Where are you, Kyron?".  Until such time, we'll keep watch.  'Nite all!

LOL cw, and thanks!  Good to know you would have been handy with a missing poster.   ::MonkeyKiss::   Thought if I only sipped banana margaritas, it would have been the cause and cure all rolled into one.   ::MonkeyDevil::

Wow!  What a terrible experience.

I guess the reason you don't get a lot of time for that is the same reason you don't get picked up for shoplifting until you leave the store.  You could change your mind at the last minute and the crime hasn't actually been committed yet.

LE knows much more than we know, hence the speculation and rumors that surround this case mucking it all up.

One thing I do know for sure and that is the ache inside me wanting Kyron home.  I cannot imagine what his parents feel like and never want to.

Please, God, return Kyron to his parents, and please, make it now.

 ::MonkeyAngel::

Good Morning, Monkeys!

Hoping and praying that maybe today, there will be a miracle for Kyron.

cw618, if there is anything at all you can think to do to help missing children, God Bless You! You have my blanket permission to use anything I have toward that end, and don't ever worry about "crediting" my stuff. If I post a pic of a missing child, it's an effort to put into a visual what we all are feeling. The pictures belong to all the incredible caring posters at SM. You all create the pictures as much as I ever do.   ::MonkeyKiss::

Muffy, thanks for all you do. I think your wings are angel wings in diguise!  ::MonkeyTongue::

Wyks, save me some of that drink, will you? I'm as frustrated as you over this case and I just keep thinking, "Another day and nothing. WHERE is Kyron?" I love that picture of Kyron and his Mom because he looks so carefree and happy. They look so comfortable with each other. Wherever Kyron is right now, that's what I want for him. I want him to be as he was when that picture was taken. 

Does that go for all posters too, CBB?

You did an amazing job on that picture!

http://www.katu.com/news/local/102298929.html

Don't know if this was posted yet...
I took particular delight in the comments left by
"nobodysside"    ::rhino::
Going to work in my monkey watch(and clothes too,     ::MonkeyTongue::   don't get any funky ideas...this means you MK,lol    ::MonkeyDevil::   )  Positive thoughts...news of Kyrons return when I get home!    ::MonkeySlide::

Good thing you mentioned the clothes!  We would have been checking the CNN for you, Lady Godiva!  Have a GREAT day!!

Did Lady Godiva wear a monkey watch?

Hey! How did you get that picture of me taken at my Daughters Wedding?    ::MonkeyDevil::

Somebodys been in my private family album.   ::MonkeyJnBox::

I just can't seem to get out of this cage.  I have tried.  So I took yesterday away, did Laundry, I found clothes I forgot I had.  Now I have sooo many clothes. My winter stock of clothes is now ready for staying warm while feeding the horses and pygmy goats. 

I only pray that where ever you are little guy I hope you have plenty of warmth.  I want you to come home so we can post pictures of you smiling and happily in your Mom and Dad's arms. 

I return to work today from my vacation but you will be on my mind.  I can't stop thinking about you. 

Kyron if you were here and I could meet you I would give you such a hug.  You are the cutest little boy and my heart breaks for your parents and their pain.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Who ever is responsible for this horror I hope you pay dearly for the rest of your life.   ::MonkeyMad:: I hope you are caught and never see daylight again.  You need to bring our little guy home NOW!

No problem Wyks!  I know sometimes you need a break but usually you say so and that's perfectly fine but I just wanted to check on you.  Glad you are okay!  MonkeyKing...Two things, Wyks is NOT the NAS-TEE Monkey and please go pay the electric bill!  See you didnt get my last message!

Wyks keeps threatening to pull her hair out if Kyron doesn't come home. 
Would you want to stand with her in a picture looking like a drunk, dizzy and
Bald Nastee Monkey dat come from da Islands, mon?

I couldnt get to the electric comp yesterday, it was a holiday, dont cha know, mon.

At least take the darn fork from him!  He needs a spankin'!  Gotta go to work sees ya'll lata.  Have a great day everyone.

Good morning everyone! I brought coffee

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff209/SakiSukiYo/2007927153613281.jpg)

and cookies.

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i232/jeungmii/2552734810_fcf5e212b2.jpg)

Nastee, but at least she's still got a nice rack.

:D

I'll share my cooskees, too.

(http://ny-image0.etsy.com/il_430xN.155183356.jpg)

and

(http://ny-image0.etsy.com/il_fullxfull.167747196.jpg)

We can have our own Kyron B-day party and everyone can bring their own monkey food!

Finally got up the courage to think out loud here:

RE: The Bat phones - Assume Terri may/may not physically be involved in Kyron's actual abduction, but has some knowledge of who is involved (i.e. someone else did it for her, someone she is involved with took Kyron as a message to her, or in response to something she did or didn't do, etc.). Or possibly, as some believe, she was initially involved but it quickly got out of her control.

Somehow, whoever actually has him, or their intermediary, tells Terri "get a phone(s) and we will contact you for further info/instructions". She (or a friend) texts abductors w/her new #, or posts coded message in classified, someone's FB acct., Craigslist, in order to get her (and others) new cell # to abductors. (Did the others KEEP the phones they bought, or give them all to Terri?)

That's why DeDe stayed at her house, not her parents, because maybe DeDe was a possible contact as well as Terri. They were waiting for some kind of contact from abductors.

Wouldn't that be nice?

:D

I do think that a birthday without Kyron will be hard on the parents. I wonder if they will release a statement or have a brief press conference.

About their last PC, they urged Terri to talk.

But, we knew where that was going... nowhere. She knows (and her attorney knows) that if she talks she will be caught and put away for a very long time.

So, no chance in heck that she will talk.

I'm surprised, as many people are, that someone like TH would concoct such an elaborate scheme and get away with it.

The only alternative to Terri being such a good criminal is that she is not involved at all. Then again, if she weren't involved, why all the inconsistencies in her statements, refusal to cooperate, and all the weirdness going on around her?

I'm sure somewhere there is record of she scouting a place to hide evidence, there should be computer and/or cellphone communications, and evidence of personal encounters.

To me the gym provides grounds for brief communications/personal encounters, without raising suspicions.

IMO

Somehow I want to believe Dede is innocent and that she was fooled by Terri in order to get her cooperation. But, the fact that Dede wanted a deal in order to testify in front of the GJ tells me that she does know something that can incriminate her.

If she was ever threatened or tricked into helping, that should be a mitigating circumstance and the courts should be easy on her, if she were ever on trial.

Was it ever determined 100% that Dede was asking for a deal or was that speculation?  I understood she did not testify before the GJ, and as I understood it, she was put under oath and told she could be called back. 

In a message to me from DY's family, Desiree and her family requested the use of one of Brandi's pics to use on a flier. With her approval, attached is the flier that the family is using. Thank you Brandi!  ::MonkeyAngel::


(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs409.snc4/47263_148744491823823_125336750831264_286006_1328357_n.jpg)


Have a great day everyone!

Thank-you Sassifrass, and Brandi  ::MonkeyAngel::

I've also wondered if DeDe took her Daddy's advise and automatically asked for a deal BECAUSE we all know how the smallest thing can get twisted around.  I can see her daddy telling DeDe to ask for a deal simply because she did spend time with Terri after Kyron went missing.

I don't recall that we heard that definately DeDe asked for immunity...the way I recall was that they asked her for certain items which she supplied and they said she could be called back.

Wrong page! Klaas, can you delete my previous post?  I cited a NJ page.

Okay, done.  MuffyBee

 ::MonkeyAngel::

MonkeyKing ::HelloKitty::

Sounds like fun!      :smt113   Did you check with Klaas? 

Feel free to start a thread tomorrow morning to celebrate Kyron's birthday.  I don't have a problem with that. ::MonkeyCool::

not sure if was posted,you can see brandi poster, the hormans
are going to use at the end of this recap of school and kyron

Kyron Horman's Classmates Return To School With No Answers

http://www.kptv.com/index.html

http://www.kptv.com/news/24910471/detail.html
First Day Of School Begins Without Kyron Horman

POSTED: 11:07 am PDT September 7, 2010
UPDATED: 11:14 am PDT September 7, 2010

snip
PORTLAND, Ore. -- The first day of classes started at Skyline School in northwest Portland on Tuesday without missing 7-year-old boy Kyron Horman.

Ben Keefer, the school's principal, said Kyron is enrolled at the school, but he will be removed from the enrollment list if he is absent for 10 days, per school district procedure.

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyDance::


Brandi...our own monkey ::MonkeyAngel::we are so proud of your dedication and artistic skills...We love you ::MonkeyKiss::

     (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/MonkeyGuys/angelmonkey-22.gif)

Aw, thanks, mymonkey.

I am so pleased that Desiree liked my artwork enough to use it in a poster/flyer for their celebration of Kyron's Birthday.

Now, let's bring him home!

cw618: I answered your post here: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg1225069#msg1225069 It has a list of all the Kyron artwork I have done to date.

That is so sad.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I wish someone would have a conscience & tell what happened to this beautiful child. How can you keep Kyron from his family, friends & classmates? I hope whoever is responsible burns in h#ll for this. (IMO...TH & possibly DDS) ::MonkeyMad:: Sorry if my last statement was offensive to anyone. My heart broke all over again when I read he will be removed from the enrollment list if he is absent for 10 days.  :(

That is wonderful Brandi that Desiree loved your artwork so much she is using it  ::MonkeyAngel::

Hello fellow monkeys.
Brandy wow we are all so proud of you! You and CBB both put so much love and care into the pics it doesn't surprise me at all she wanted to use one.

I wanted to share with you all another dream I had on Sunday morning. In my dream I was sitting in a chair in a room with these other people and although I knew them in my dream, I don't know who they are now. so I am sitting there chatting and the front door swings open and in comes little Kyron. He came running up to me and flung his arms around my neck and I screamed out, Kyron where have you been? So many people are so worried about you and we love you. He looked right at me with a great big smile, his blue eyes were just dancing with happiness and said he was great and he knows we love him..He turned and skipped away and I woke up.
I hope one day we all get to see that smiling face I saw in my dream. I want so badly for this little boy to come home.

Perhaps they can make an exception to the rule?

Wall of Hope being put back up today:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Kyron/Image56-2.png)

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Kyron/Image57.png)

http://www.katu.com/news/local/102298929.html?

Kyron Horman Still Missing as School Resumes

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20015688-504083.html (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20015688-504083.html)

" ... In the meantime, his father Kaine Horman told CBS affiliate KOIN  that he's purchased all of Kyron's school supplies, packed his backpack and registered him for soccer, in preparation for when his son returns home. ..."

Wall of Hope unveiled near Skyline School
http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Wall-of-Hope-unveiled-near-Skyline-School/ESMv81Xl60OJc8erdSz--A.cspx

(http://www.koinlocal6.com/media/lib/107/7/3/8/738cc19f-2009-4841-a126-925c224ba448/Original.jpg)

Wall of Hope for Kyron Horman relocated next to a fire station near Skyline School
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/09/kyron_horman_wall_of_hope_move.html (http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/09/kyron_horman_wall_of_hope_move.html)

Kaine Horman says he continues to sleep with his phone, waiting for a call that his son has been located. He never thought he wouldn't be joining the other Skyline parents today, accompanying his son to his third-grade class.

"Everyday since then, it's just waiting for the phone call," Kaine Horman said.

On Kyron's upcoming birthday, his dad plans to take off work and spend the day doing something special.

"I'm going to do something on my own for him."

I think Ky's B-Day will hit them like a ton of bricks. I don't care who we think did it, who is involved, it is a very sad day for any of his family members. the statement from the school is rather bureaucratic and insensitive at this moment in time. 

Oh, look!  On Kyron's flyer he has a "monkey" on his shirt.  Thank you, Brandi!

Nana
I think you are very very close to the truth here - given all the evidence and research I have done, I truly believe there is a trail of people like this who dont necessarily know one another very well.. and Kyron has been passed along like that..
I felt that ever since I saw "InsIntel"'s post (who I believed at the time was Terri, maybe its not but its a very close aquaintance who is involved say:

FACT: Terri was never told that she failed her poly graph.
She answered truthfullt to the following questions:
Do you know where Kyron is?
Do you know who might have taken Kyron?
Did you do anything to hurt Kyron?
Did you take Kyron?
Were you at the school 6/4?
Did you have your daughter at school 6/4?

Her answers were "evasive" to the following question:
Did you go to X location (where she said she was)

So, the only "lie" she told was where she was. This was never conformed that it was a lie... but the only trouble she had with the test was regarding her whereabouts after the science fair. Does it mean anything? Not really... Does it mean she took/killed Kyron? I seriously doubt it. Does she want to hide her location? Probably. Does it have anything to do with Kyron's disappearance? More than likely NO
Considering she passed all the other, more important questions.
There may be a reason she wants to hide where she was, but it certainly wasn't because she did something to Kyron
Edit to add link-MB : http://connect.oregonlive.com/user/v3nus/index.html)

Sorry forgot to quote my source http://connect.oregonlive.com/user/v3nus/index.html)

I'm finding it hard to believe anything I read from an anonymous poster on OL. Unless I hear it from Kaine or Desiree or LE ...  :smt102 

Brandi-

Congrats on your unforgettable and beautiful representation image on behalf of SM-

I have admired your images forever, but alas, this is my fave.

Good Show M'lady.

B

Especially if this person is Terri or a close acquaintance, I wouldn't take his/her word on anything as Fact.

Thank you, Blink.

Trying to keep the images of the missing out there.

I don't believe anything posted in forums by these people.  Insintel could be Terri for all I know. 

thank you, im sure the legislative body in my state, will see the
lives and emotions of these missing kids, through your super pics
and maybe take note, to the fact, something more needs to be done
im not married to the parent of the child i call daughter, iv known
her since age 2, she started a new school, under the open enrollment
plan, i have to drive/pkup at,to her Bstop, its 1 mile away, i checked
the RSO map for that stop, there are 7 RSO, within 2blocks or less of
that stop, the good thing is this stop is at a gated community, and
they have a security guard, in the morn and the afternoon, when the
bus arrives, at the stop, the HOA had a flyer for a bake sale, to offset
costs,i called and told them i would take 50$ worth, we cant eat that
much junk,ill donate to the soup kitchen, the best 50# ive ever spent

is this sanchez, one of  the sanchez we looked at from
the sheriff's office back when, for the LS

http://www2.co.multnomah.or.us/Public/EntryPoint?
ct=89563e0c0f1c3010VgnVCM1000003bc614acRCRD#summary (http://www2.co.multnomah.or.us/Public/EntryPoint?
ct=89563e0c0f1c3010VgnVCM1000003bc614acRCRD#summary)

Link doesn't work.  I tried fixing but doesn't work.

oops...got in your box. The link should work now.

Thanks you, MuffyBee!  I was tired and cited the wrong page!   ::MonkeyConfused::

Brandi~ Congratulations!!  Your Artwork speaks for itself!!  ::MonkeyCheer4::

CBB~ Yours is BEAUTIFUL as well!!  ::MonkeyCheer4::

 ::MonkeyDogWalk::  Harry, you NEED to get out there and find this young man!!   ::MonkeyDogWalk3::

I agree with that. It is a feeling I have had based on watching people in my life...distance yourself and justify, etc...    ::MonkeyNoNo::

Visitors to most Portland-area schools should expect to have to enter through a single main door, sign in and wear a visitor badge whenever they drop in, even if just to deliver their child's forgotten lunch or fill a regularly scheduled volunteer role.

For years, schools have had sign-in sheets and nametags at the front desk. But just as routinely, parents and other visitors blew off the hassle and formality.

But after Kyron Horman's still-unsolved disappearance from Portland's Skyline School in the spring, Portland and suburban schools say they've made signing in a true requirement, not an option.

They've also cracked down on allowing any door except the main entrance to be unlocked or propped open, steering everyone through a single, better-observed entry.

And elementary schools in Portland, Beaverton, Hillsboro and North Clackamas will make computerized phone calls whenever a child is absent to make sure the parent or guardian knows the child did not make it to class.

http://www.oregonlive.com/education/index.ssf/2010/09/for_safety_portland-area_schoo.html

About time...

How sad... this breaks my heart. As a parent I cannot fathom the anguish and my thoughts and prayers are with those that truely loved Kyron and care about him. Who ever is responsible and obviously I have my suspicions should truely be ashamed of themselves. What the heck is wrong with you? Put this to an end! I know I have no way of breaking through to someone of this caliber but it does not hurt to try. Even the grinch had a heart that grew. I am sickened and appalled by what is happening. A child or person goes missing and those that are involved clam up, lawyer up, simply do not care who they hurt in the process. So I guess any professed love they stated to those that thought they cared was all a farce. I don't know what more I can say.  :sad:

Very well said!  ABOUT TIME!!!

I think some people misinterpreted what I posted - I was trying to say that I think Terri may have been able to tell the truth to all but one question because she had no idea who had Kyron by that point in time.. he was somewhere in the string of people who were after her in the line of people who took Kyron

Thanks! There's more to the article, I just didn't paste the whole thing cause... the Oregonlive and all...

Here's some cute cookies I found this morning:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41m0bwVF-ML._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

I strongly believe insintel is Terri - or at least someone very very close to her with inside intelligence on where Kyron is..

one of her comments says..

Well, people call me by my old name... so now I very well could not leave that up.

Chester... are you at WS by any chance.. ? Name's familair

Posted on Kyron Horman's mother Desiree Young says boy's disappearance was 'very planned' on July 15, 2010, 3:16AM
 
Terri worked at Newport Bay - a Washington Square  restaurant as an assistant manager,, so when she refers to "WS" above I think that is what she is referring to
 
Also its obvious why she couldnt leave her old name up - RDSQRL!!

whoever the above poster is (insintel) s(he) probably knows Terri really well.. as s(he) knows the purported results of the polygraph.. and they chose a userid that is ironic given the relationship with Terri - "inside intelligence", "insin" "tel" (tel is often short for Terri) and inside INTEL (the company Kaine works for).. very clever use of username.. also the user thinks she is really clever, speaking in different languages and code etc.. so I suspect it really IS Terri.. 42ndState appears to know its Terri..

http://connect.oregonlive.com/user/42ndState/index.html - 42ndstate's profile

There is a lot of "code" being posted between 42nd State and "InsIntel" (Terry) - they talk about "hummingbirds", "meteor showers" and so on..

They talk about keeping "out of city lights" (out of the media??)

They talk about "cartoons" (newspaper stories, postings or emails?)

They talk about "going camping" (getting away) during the "meteor shower" (media shower?)

I think in code they are discussing keeping their stories straight too

" in this case there is 3 or more versions for everything and it's hard to keep them sorted out"

"chester - do you bat for both teams? blackeye wants to know.

Your avatar is a dead naked person." (are you still on our team or are you on Kaines team?)

42ndState says "Shalom Shalom" to SoCal

Shalom - As it does in English, it can refer to either peace between two entities (especially between man and God or between two countries), or to the well-being, welfare or safety of an individual or a group of individuals

 

I think people understood, they just don't trust the person making the comment, be it Terri or whoever was behind the alias.

I don't believe it either. If she is so untruthful towards her real friends, and even her own husband... could she be trusted behind a fake name?

That's great Brandi...so sad for the reason why!

Whoever Insintel is, they are spreading misinformation: 
If you read a little furthur down on their link they write:
http://connect.oregonlive.com/user/v3nus/index.html
She wasn't officially told that she "failed" they used the terms "evasive" and "inconclusive"
meaning.. they didn't hear what they wanted to hear... or she didn't want to give up where she was that day. She didn't fail the whole test.. just one answer. Who was it that failed their polygraph... what was that girl's name? Was it Stafford? The father failed his poly... everyone fingered him until something broke and they found the perp.
Jacie Duggard's step dad was also fingered in her disappearance and failed a poly... turns out she was living in someone's back yard

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Jaycee_Lee_Dugard
On June 10, 1991 Dugard's stepfather, Carl Probyn, witnessed the abduction from within sight of their home. He saw two people in a gray sedan (possibly a Mercury Monarch or Mercury Zephyr) make a U-turn at the school bus stop where Dugard was waiting, and a woman forced Dugard into the car. Probyn then gave chase on a bicycle, but he was unable to overtake the vehicle. Some of Dugard's classmates were also witnesses to the abduction. Initial suspects included Probyn and Ken Slayton, Dugard's biological father. Probyn took and passed several lie-detector tests, and Slayton was also quickly cleared of the crime.

So if they lie to make their point, their point is probably a lie too.

 ::HelloKitty::

great post.  Remember the commercial about not fooling mother nature?

You can't fool the monkeys either.

I totally agree Moosee  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Just because somebody/ANYBODY states "FACT:" don't make it factual by far - and in this case  ::MonkeyNoNo:: so many weirdo's coming out of the woodwork - the only "FACT" that "is" factual is that we have hardly any facts at all

WS = Web Sleuths site I believe

the first thing i thought of when i read the word Insintel, prob nothing
is In sintel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac7KhViaVqc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMJXiOF9MGM&NR=1

first trailer for "Sintel"
Sintel is the third short movie (after Elephants Dream and Big Buck Bunny) created with support of the Blender Foundation. The movie is created with the open-source software Blender 8and other open-source tools), as always, all parts of the movie will be released with a Creative Commons Attribiton 3.0 license, this means you can freely reuse and distribute this content, also commercially, for as long you provide a proper attribution.
more info here: http://durian.blender.org/

directed by: Colin Levy
release date: TBA

Interesting cw  ::HelloKitty:: I thought it was something like "INTEGRATED NETWORK SERVICES @ INTEL"  But I've no idea...

I think he should be an Honorary Student if he is not there after 10 days.  I am still hoping he will be there by then.

Let this child come home!

Interesting cw  ::HelloKitty:: I thought it was something like "INTEGRATED NETWORK SERVICES @ INTEL"  But I've no idea...
[/quote]

Well, there is also the Dell Inspiron computers with Intel chips that people call them INS Intel.

There's also the INS (now ICE) Intel (for intelligence.)

Could be just about anything.

About Chester, there was a poster on Websleuth (WS) with that name... he's pretty good at researching and encourages people a lot.

I haven't been at WS in many months, so I'm not sure if he's still over there.

I think the person hangs around true-crime boards like this and then goes on to the newspapers to comment.

Not that any of us haven't done that... God forbid.

:D

At the begiining of this case, I did not like Kaine and alot of my opinions were based on my dislike of him. Plus some of the contradictons in his statments made me go, duh ?
I have been reading what Gil Harrington posts about the pain and the loss they are suffering and my feelings towards him have entirely changed. It has put a more human face on him and if he has said a few different things at different times and has been vague the emotional state he is in is the reason. Or maybe it is I who is becoming more human.

2.4.1 Little Man Kyron

Kaine needs to start taking care of himself.  He does not look well.  I totally understand why.  He has a daughter to take care of as well.  My prayers go out to him.

(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/Bearlyhere/Monkey%20Emoticons/angel2-crying.gif)

I agree.

My thought was that the Insintel was 'code' for sin inside Intel - in(sin)tel. I read the comments early on and got a hinky feeling from the poster, so it just made sense to me that way. 

Makes sense.

Kinda like Bwienerun .... like B(wiener)un .... a wiener inside a bun.

...or Oinsideut ..... like O(inside)ut .... inside out.

This is fun!

:)

Sounds like the nots are coming out for the banana splits!     ::MonkeyTongue::   lol   

I wasn't going to post this, but I am now tagging on yours.  I thought it was:

In Sin teL

Let Sin In

But that was only at first glance, I think Moosee has the right idea.

Sounds like the nots are coming out for the banana splits!        lol   


*nuts*....think I better be going to bed...

Exactly like that.

this statement bothers me some, i cant know what it is he will do,
but that part, on my own
sorta sounds like he is going to distance his self, from?

IDK, i thought he was going about, finding kyron the wrong way, in the beginning,
with the hush hush,and following LE cue, now he sounds like there has to be
something i can do, and tired of listening to everyone and no closer to kyron
JMO

in sin tel... sin in tel.....sentinel (news paper)

I took it as a jab at Kaine since he works at Intel.

insintel

INS-INTEL= INSIDE INTEL

I kiind of remember seeing this poster on OregonLive and the name came up and it was stated by the poster- INSIDE INTEL.

Maybe he is going to get a tattoo for Kyron.

i thought it was inntel, bad memory,too much info to follow
i think a monkey or 2 are logged for comments,maybe just ask,lol

im hoping for info on the behind the scenes, this is what
we know can you help

Good Evening all,

I recall the poster with that name explaining it ..and they did explain they meant Inside Intel.
They were responding to another poster. And said Yes you are correct, that is what It means. If I recall there was a bit of sarcasm thrown in, by Insintel.

cw~
I dont understand your last post.

I don't know if anyone recalls. About two weeks ago, I posted a photo of " Roses" that I bought at the market. I very rarely buy flowers. These were the prettiest shade of Punch.
Not red, not pink..and they stood out and called to me. They made me think of Kyron.

The color was so brilliant indifferent, and they actually had a sweet smell. Was one dozen roses, not long stem, nor short, middle I guess. I did not cut them down. I kept changing the water every day. They were beautiful for about 7 days. Slowly they began to drop, droop and fall apart ... :( 

 ::FlyingFrog:: One rose still stands. It is no longer brilliant in color. It is complete. It did not fall apart. It is, as if, it is frozen in perfect form. My battery is charging on my camera. I will take a photo of it and post it .. for Kyron's birthday.

  ::MonkeyAngel::

 

sorry cut the post off
instead of a tattoo
im hoping kaine gives more detailed info, on what he knows
from wherever he knows it from,and ask for the public's help

Yes, I remember those roses.  I saved the pic!  Very pretty.

Cw~  Thanks for clarifying.  I thought it was just me haha!
And yes, it would be great if Kaine can share some information.  Not likely, but I'm hopeful.

Seems like its been since June, that anything has been said " of any happenings" within the investigation. Nothing has been said truly by LE or Kaine. I don't understand why.
Yes they can beat the accusations to death about Terri ..but what about the investigation. Reading Kaine's comment of the children attending Skyline assuring Parents that their children are safe ...  :smt102 what does that mean? I understand " Why" he felt compelled to say it. More than likely the School put him up to it. That if it came from Kaine " to the parents" that it is his belief " students coming in" will be safe * it would give parents something. It though does not hold much clout, without of backup statement of HOW he believes this. How can he say this with assurance, when the public has been told nothing of the investigation of Kyron's missing. He must know something. 
*Has nothing to do with security camera's 
I would be leery still as a parent, if LE is not going to say/has not said to date " We have 100% ruled out" all Staff and contracted workers associated with grounds/waste management/services of Skyline.
jmo. 

I took his comment to mean he wanted to be alone (probably will be a very rough day :( ) and maybe do something him and kyron did alone ... something special between the two of them... that's how I read it earlier today anyways.  But anythings possible.

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I have to agree with you, Deenie.  I could not be 100% convinced.  I think LE should have said something the first day of school.  If not, why not?

It is my mom meter going off.

 ::MonkeyKiss::
Thank You Ms. Bearly  ~ ONE little Rose still Stands from that Beautiful Bouquet ...
   

 ::FlyingFrog::

I thought he wanted to be out of the public eye.  The celebrations are public, with flashes going off, and cameras with microphones being stuck in his face all day, I think he is going to make the day special and personal, with him and Kiara, and anyone he wants to be there or else be completely alone.

School Saves a Desk for Missing Kyron Horman

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20419502,00.html (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20419502,00.html)

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As students return to school from summer vacation, a desk will be waiting for Kyron, says Matt Shelby, spokesman for the Portland School District.

"He's enrolled as a student. There's a spot there waiting for him," says Shelby, who adds that school policy states that a child is withdrawn from school after missing 10 consecutive days. "The school is ready for Kyron and we all hope he shows up."

You are welcome, Ms. D!

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Bearlyhere:
I have to agree with you, Deenie.  I could not be 100% convinced.  I think LE should have said something the first day of school.  If not, why not?

It is my mom meter going off.

--
Bearly would if not make sense for them to make a statement prior to school starting?
 because LE was " First" throwing out the initial WORRY Card - to the Public and to the Parents of Skyline. We are making this investigation imperative due to Kyron was taken/or last place seen inside his School.  We not only represent Kyron Horman, Horman Family, but the parents of Skyline etc..
Yet, nothing has been said by LE as a statement " We Assure You /Skyline/ Parents of All local Schools " that we have ruled out, there is no Person's of interests within Staff/Contractors/Service people etc..
I would not be so " comfortable" as they are making it out to be. Kaine said what he felt was needed to be said. Good for him. Not enough though for me, if my child was attending Skyline.  I am not poking at Kaine. I am though wondering where LE stands in all of this and why they have not made a public statement.  ( within the investigation of any sort lately) 

I would be too Deenie, I mean Kyron isn't home, there's been NO arrest and yet, as a parent I should take Kaine's word, or anyone eles for that matter, and base the safety of my child on that? NOT.  I wonder how many parents are home schooling their children this year? 

Personally, I know everone, well an awful lot anyway, including the family, are convinced that TH is responsible for Kyron's disappearance.  I'm not sold.  There are convincing arguments on both sides of the fence both pro and con TH.

We are lead to imagine that a SO or Predator is the old, unshaven guy in the trench coat.  That's not the case.  We have to remember, this was a science fair that was OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.  That means, EVERYONE was invited, EVERYONE was welcome!
Family members brought family members and friends.  Lots of people.  Chaos.

According to Dave Stensen, cutting grass on soccor field, kids were outside the building looking at plants.  Where were the adults? He said them came out the back door.  *(Sounds secure to me if students are running outside of the building during a school day!)
http://www.kval.com/news/100632889.html

Actually, the school NEEDS the perp to be Terri.  If Terri is NOT the perp, then the school has to answer how someone got into the school and basically kidnapped this child under everyone's noses.

Would that not open the doors to numerous, very expensive, lawsuits being foot by  the county?

I love the Frog Bearly AWE .......
We have a store that is local to MI. I think it is in only 3 States in the US. Its called Meijers.
Its pretty much a store that carries everything from Grocery to you name it.

They have been running this back to school commercial. Every time I see it, my heart falls over. It is a brother and sister and Mom walks through the door " with bags of school supplies"
The kids pulling stuff out of the bags " All Excited" ... WOW, YAY Wooo .. and the narrator says We know this is not reality, kids being excited about school supplies .. yadda
The Boy looks so much like KYRON it's a heart breaker. Same face, skin tone, glasses, hair cut, and he's all excited and happy. He is wearing a long sleeved striped shirt, blue jeans, This boy is about 9 yrs old..could be Kyron's brother/twin. I have seen it a few times, and I just fall apart.

I think it is really Strange, that they are allowing this " Grass keeper's words" be held to accountability. I cannot see how he would even be able to recall anything other than - what he was doing.  For him to say for certain " He never saw Terri's Truck " or anything out of the ordinary " That Day" to me sounds like .. bull pucky. There was nothing ordinary that day. The parking lot was filled with unknown cars, that normally would not be there. The people walking around and about were not normally there - so HOW can he say " He never saw a White Truck ? " or be able to make such statements. 
Now if this was a regular school day it would be much different. Even then, I would not be able to take his words for value. Why? Because if you do the same thing, repetitive such as mowing .. You're doing just a repeat, you almost become synchronized. Nothing around you matters. I can offer my own example. My family owned a driving range. I would operate the John Deere and collect the golf balls. The front of the tractor had a swing system on the front with baskets to collect the golf balls off the ground. I would be out there depending on how many gb's were out there for over 30-45 mins a time. Do you think I ever looked back at the Golfers? Or what was going on from where they were hitting Nope. I had to focus on what I was doing. I would be out 350yrds or so and the only time I looked back was " If I was Hit" knowing there was always ONE of the bunch that would use the tractor as a moving target. Trust you me, you get hit with a Golfball going 100mph in the ankle or the top of the cage that echos.. YOU Look. Do you honestly believe though from that far away - I could tell who was using me as their target. NOPE. Was I able to see cars from that distance ? Yes, and they looked like match boxes. Another thing too, if another person was on the Tractor and it was an situation that they needed to be " Flagged In" .. no way could you grab their attention. They were focused on what they were doing period. You could be Jumping Up and Down and waving your arms ... Never to gain their attention. Mower Boys statements to me are just what they are - his own.

 

 ::HelloKitty::

I think it was TH's plan to sue the school, but that's not a plan that's going to work out for her.  Now that her parents are out of cash, she's out of luck with an inheritance someday as well.

http://www.kval.com/news/100632889.html

Mowerboy's own statement

It seemed like just a pretty normal day,” he said. “It was kind of damp and wet. It had been wet for a while and the fields were hard to mow. (I) noticed that there was some children that came out the back door, and I thought, ‘please don’t come down and play soccer.’ But they came out and looked at some plants that were in the raised bed.”
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Right there tells me he was focused on the Grass. When you do the work within Grass of that size, it almost becomes like a child to you. If your grass is messed up, It sparks within you, I have to protect it.  Operating a tractor myself - Our Grass was our priority. Grass having to be cared for literally 24/7 from March - Oct for the golfers and then prepared for the winter.  When it was raining or wet for days .. did not stop our customers from coming. Still had to take the tractor out onto the range to pick up the golf balls. IF there were a lot of customers we would take the tractor out on the side ( off side the grass) Run it at the back end where most of the golf balls were/ you could not see the tears/ruts that far away. OR not use the tractor at all - and we hand picked the golf balls. Yes, Hand pick. They make these tubes that grasp and pluck them off the ground- We then would dump them into huge cans and drive them back with a golf cart. Wet grass is a no no - The tractor tires would tear deep ruts, was not worth the loss of the grass. Which is why I don't understand why he was mowing in the first place. 

I am under the impression that it is usually rainy or misty-rainy in Oregon, so a week of dry weather and good mowing conditions would be unusual. Besides, he has a schedule to follow, and if it is possible to mow the grass, he mows.

He is probably constantly on the lookout for children with his job because it is dangerous for them to be around while he is mowing. He only needs to be aware the children are on the grounds and their location.

Deenie~

Because the fields were wet, would this have made his job harder to do?

Very much so. It would make it very difficult and SLOW. Why because the Gang Mowers would be over come by the wet clippings and then would cause damage along the mowing.
It would even skip and miss areas - because the blades become so bogged down. Would cause one to double back.  Not only that but the tires which are massive - would tear up the back of what was just mowed.
The Mowers are in the front of a commercial tractor - not behind as one would think.
So your cutting with pressure full frontal and the tires are behind ..so basically your creating a SMEAR fest.  With the tractor blades being soggy sticky and clogged clippings and then the Tires following after .. its like mowing on snot .. sorry but that is what its like.   

This is why even when the grass is over grown wet - YOU allow it to dry up and then Cut it. You never risk your grass - Never. Especially when its grass for public/commercial use. 
a link of Gang Mowers - so you can see what they would look like for commercial use
http://www.mowersdirect.com/accessories/gang-mowers.php

just to add-
Regarding Gang Mowers - The Gangs can be in the back, yet when they are in the front of the tractor they can be on a Swivel bar. You then can manipulate the mowers vs dragging a straight line from behind. 
Either way anyone who is a professional working with Grass - You never cut WET grass. I mean soggy wet grass. It's not worth the damage. Once you create ruts in the grass, you then have to go back and repair not only the rut, ( level the rut) but have to re-seed or add sod. $$ time and waste..so you wait and allow it to dry - And then jump on your John Deere. 
 ::MonkeyBike:: 

That is why I cannot believe for one minute that Mower Dude was " anything but focused" on his Grass. He was not watching the parking lot or anything for that matter - How could he be?  He was working within the grounds that were wet saturated and him trying to figure out - his best method of his job. He was not concentrating on the comings and goings of anyone. He was focused on his GRASS - he said it himself. Please don't come out here and play soccer. 

Hey Grey~

You know I brought this man up before, full circle here!!

First off, I've seen too many investigations done sloppy or 1/2 assed, it's hard for me to take anything at face value.  Doubting Thomas so to speak.  Could be regarded as a blessing or a curse, depending on what side you're on.

OK, If the man is on a schedule, and he arrives at the school at a certain time and weather conditions are what they are and prevent him from mowing the grounds without damaging the fields, what does he do with the time alloted for the job?  He is not a Skyline Employee, he works for the City of Portland. (City Employees are not under the same hiring scruitiny as Board of Education employees who get backround checks)

There were two different time lines this man has given.

“It seemed like just a pretty normal day,” he said. “It was kind of damp and wet. It had been wet for a while and the fields were hard to mow.

**How could it have been normal when the parking lot was filled up- thats NOT normal and there were kids running loose outside the building during what would have been cosidered classroom time?


(I) noticed that there was some children that came out the back door, and I thought, ‘please don’t come down and play soccer.’ But they came out and looked at some plants that were in the raised bed.”

**WHY would he think they would come down and play soccor during classroom time?
Was it not unusual to see children outside the schoiol building during class?

Personally, I'd have a lot of questions for this man in particular.

Within Ground Maintenance, elementary schools
I think it is that they MOW before or after hours - of School. Because it is for Children not to be around. Not to be added liability of the school, so it would be done when the children were not in class.  I don't know, its been a long time since my Daughter was in Elementary. I though do not recall maintenance workers on the grounds ( when I did volunteer). I do recall janitors in my daughter's elementary school. They came in early am, and then right when the kids were leaving and worked the majority of their shift then/after.
Myself: Janitors I don't recall them in middle and high school. I do however recall hall monitors, especially in High School, we had two, one man was nick named Grumpy.  He was that too, He looked like a really mean cartoon character, serious - everyone loved him. One woman, 4'11 fierce as all get out, with a Afro, that made her bigger than life, Benita. She used to crack her gum. Uggh.  I recall hall monitors in middle school. One especially his name was Rick. All the girls swooned over him. He was very handsome. Was after I left middle school .. Rick was found out to be a Narc. He was a undercover police officer. Imagine that. He had good reason to be there. There was a ton of drugs floating in my school.  I remember. GAWD that was back in the late 70's .. can't imagine whats in middle schools or even elementary schools now. More than likely its stealing MOM and DAD's scripts or Even the kids pimping their own scripts .. since now its normal for a elementary kid to be on prozac or whatever ..   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

Monkey King = you make a valid point
http://www.kval.com/news/100632889.html

He said he cut the grass on the soccer field between 7:45 a.m. and 8:30 a.m. the morning of June 4 and never saw the Hormans’ truck on the road.
So his mowing was done and over with - by 8:30. ????

Him quoted:
“It seemed like just a pretty normal day,” he said. “It was kind of damp and wet. It had been wet for a while and the fields were hard to mow. (I) noticed that there was some children that came out the back door, and I thought, ‘please don’t come down and play soccer.’ But they came out and looked at some plants that were in the raised bed.”
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HOW long had he been employed by the county or other to maintain the grounds for Skyline.
Did he not realize that the first bell rang for attendance at that time? He said he was paying attention that he never saw a white truck ? Yet his words are focusing on the grass. He is saying just the opposite  - he notes I saw kids come outside. So to me that says it was AFTER 8:30 ..way after 8:30 am that the kids would be outside. So why did he stick around ? if he was finished mowing at 8:30?

If there were outside projects for the fair ( I would have to believe that a teacher would be patrolling it) Or an Adult supervising the outside area - Because it was outside.

Think about it, why would kids go outside when all the focus of the fair was inside the class rooms. Why would he think " while he was Mowing between the time of 7:45 and 8:30 any children would be on the grounds to play on the fields/ Soccer " ??

During a science fair, anyone leaving all activities behind to " play soccer" sounds to me that he was misinformed - or misled ..or talking turkey himself, ..because he didn't know what to say, yet he offered up such statements that were found credible?? 
His time lines/his statements,  do they make sense? I don't find them credible.

  ::MonkeyDance:: Zip you're being awfully quiet .. up in the rafters

what are working on ? if it's okay that I ask ..  ::MonkeyWink::

If my child was going there, I would not only have wanted LE to make a statement, I would have wanted them to be there on the first day of school.

I have seen little boys with a toothless smile and glasses that have done the same to me, Deenie, and also long thick red haired women or a white Ford Truck.  I have to step back once in a while.

I can see where he could have been looking.  He may have been on edge checking for the safety of the children from the school.  Since he could not hear, he may have been scanning constantly for them.  I could see him knowing if there were children around.

Yes, to checking for the kids.

If he went from school to school, I could see him watching out for kids running on the field.  Our school has soccer as part of their school day. 

I would hope he would be watching out for kids anyway.

 ::MonkeyEek::

This is similar to what they mow our school lawns and fields with, only they are a little bigger and black, they have those things to steer like that.  They even mow in the rain.  (Not the one in the beginning lol)

                         http://www.youtube.com/v/QxtJz-Pc2OA?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US
 

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Sassi did I miss it or what was the Monkey Present?

Monkey Present ??  ::MonkeyWink::
I guess that would be a  :smt040

Monkey King ~
I love your Birthday Wish for Kyron  ::MonkeyKiss::

One of my sisters made it, it was supposed to move!!

Oh well, it was the love and good wishes behind it that count!!

(And I hope there are plenty of those today!)

Monkey King, it is moving on my side - Twinkling  ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks, MK, I like it, too!

 ::MonkeySlide::

I see fireflies with wings flapping and twinkling.

Deenie, that monkey always makes me chuckle.  He is one smart monkey!

 ::MonkeyJnBox::

We All Love You ~  ::MonkeyHeart::

Deenie~

I like that video version.  (I posted it to my FB page!)
I see the "Kyrose" too!

Bearly -whew ..huge emotions rolling on this day .. Kyron's Birthday
What is really strange, before I knew Kyron loved the song Fireflies. Until Kyron, I never knew the song existed.  - I asked Brandi to put firefly's on me monkey and I even made my myspace background firefly's held in a jar - All the time was Kyron missing ..sorta ?? is it or ? I so wish for a drop of information ..anything at this point.  Where you are Kyron? Such a sweet boy missing for too long without a trace.

http://www.oregonlive.com/education/index.ssf/2010/09/for_safety_portland-area_schoo.html

For safety, Portland-area schools get serious about visitor badges, locked doors, phone calls home

Published: Tuesday, September 07, 2010, 5:34 PM     
Updated: Tuesday, September 07, 2010, 8:26 PM

 ::monkeyscissors::

Statistically, school is one of the safer places for students to be. But Kyron's disappearance from a school hallway during a morning science fair -- and the long hours that elapsed before his father learned the boy had not been in school -- raised awareness that schools don't always monitor who's in the hallway or communicate with parents that a child didn't show up.

A full-blown video surveillance system, complete with high-precision cameras and full-campus coverage, has been deemed too expensive to install at every school (although Skyline got one through a corporate donor). But inexpensive auto-dialer programs and vigilant school secretaries in the front office can make an important difference, school officials say.

Nowhere are the new procedures expected to be enforced more stringently than Portland Public Schools. Any adult visitor will be required to wear an official PPS color-coded badge -- yellow for visitors, green for volunteers who've been through a criminal background check. And adults who visit frequently will be pressed to upgrade to the green pass.

"It's a safeguard," says Portland public information officer Matt Shelby, who helped set up the badging system. "If someone is wearing that volunteer badge, you know they have had a background check."

Hillsboro also has switched to a color-coded badge system. An orange badge signals an approved volunteer who has cleared a state or national criminal background check.

"It's another safeguard to assure our community that we're doing everything we can to make our schools safer," says Casey Waletich,  district operations coordinator.

With about 1,000 volunteers screened so far, two who were barred from helping out in Hillsboro schools objected that their background should be considered acceptable, Waletich said. But the district held firm. "Those people are not volunteering in our schools," he said.

I love Israel - he is amazing. He still is amazing and offering his legacy - I love his version of Somewhere over the Rainbow more so than Judy Garland .. Yes I do.

 I watched this vid of Israel countless times, and never realized he had left us. I never understood this was a mixed message, his beautiful works - and his funeral at the same time.  His voice is permanent in my mind.  ::MonkeyAngel:: He has touched so many people in his life... He is still alive to me.  His legacy lives. 
As I feel that Kyron Lives  :smt049

I want to dedicate this song to all you Monkeys.  If someone knows how to embed it that would be great.  This is one of my all time favorites.

On this day of Kyron's Birth I pray he comes home safe and unharmed into the loving arms of his parents. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1_MydgRFZw

 ::MonkeyAngel::  For Kyron

From Lazydog :smt049  ::FlyingFrog::

This was a post from a friend on facebook to me, don't have time right now to check it out if its true or not, maybe another monkey will be able to, just wanted to give a heads up!


 parents whose children have a profile on facebook. There is a man trying to get in contact with children to talk about sex. His name is   Thierry Mairot.   Please copy and paste this onto your wall and warn everyone ..... thankyou ....
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Deenie, he left fingerprints inside of my screen. Do you know hard those were to get off?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Clean up on aisle 3!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Here ya go!

http://www.raincitystory.com/flash/screenclean.swf

And you dont need paper towels!!

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To Kyron's Family,

Although the majority of us do not comprehend the complexitity and depth of emotions you are experiencing, we are human, we are mothers and fathers, we are sisters and brothers, sons and daughters.
 
We have felt grief, dispair, uncertainty and loss at various times during our journey.
 
Through these experiences, we have learned compassion, understanding, sympathy,
and patience towards our fellow man.
 
It is with these gifts of the human spirit which we embrace you and your family and offer our support and our prayers.

Through our faith, we know our prayers have been heard and there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

We believe in miracles.

To turn 8 on Sept 8 is special...That is a once in a life time happening...Let this be the day that Kyron is returned home....I woke with my heart aching for his family, and at the same time I have to keep saying positive prayers for Kyron and his family...Happy Birthday Kyron.....may all the red tree frogs in this world sing Happy Birthday to you in their voice that you will recognize wherever you may be  ::MonkeyAngel::

Is his birthday the 8th or 9th?  I'm thinking the 9th but maybe Kyron should have a birthday week! ::MonkeyAngel::

The first day of school at Skyline Elementary is on September 7th.  Kyron's 8th birthday is on September 9th.  Will Kyron be home in time to celebrate both of these exciting days with family and friends?

http://moms.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978483491

This must be our practice run!! 

Look at the dates!  No wonder I got it messed up!  Oops! haha

Good Idea, Kyron needs to have a birthday week!!  YAY!!!  (Now I don't feel so stupid, Thanks Klaas!!)

Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

I thought tomorrow was Kyron's birthday...I could be wrong though.
I was reading the post about the lawn guy and thought of something that was bugging me earlier. From where the lawnmower guy was parked at the very back end of the soccer field....he could not have seen Terri's truck on the service rd. As high as the weeds were on that bank...it would have been simple to get Kyron out of the school and down to the service rd. I will have to go back and find my post. Klaas I think posted the video of the news lady walking around the rd for me. He first stated that he left the school at 8:30, but in another statement said he left closer to nine. Terri had to leave the school before nine to get to the store and check out at 9:12.

Okay between Monkey King and My Monkey .............
Kleenex please ......

Monkey King your words simply put, beautiful, heartfelt  Whew .. incredibly moving.

I find myself at times waking up in the middle of sleep dreaming of Kyron.
I can't truly grasp it all, for He is not my son. I have never smelled him, I have never felt his face, I have never met him. Never heard his voice. 
Yet he has encompassed so many here at SM. True loving people who want him found.
The pain sets in within realizing - Desiree. Which we truly cannot understand, Because HE Kyron is her Son. I cannot Imagine what Desiree is going though.  Not for one second.

This is for Desiree 


Who I have the utmost respect for.. I don't know how she keeps herself so composed.
She is a very strong Woman and Mother. 
This is Kyron's day for him to be " Raised Up" as in Lazydog's tribute.  Yes.


 

Yes I agree he deserves a Birthday WEEK - Kyron.

Kyron was born Sept. 9, 2002.

i see we have cookies ,cake, music, cards, flowers, whats left
oh!oh! i know, games,i think kyron would like the tacky frogs
easy sorta, aim and jump, more games there too,that are fun
http://www.gamegape.com/en-63268-tacky-toads.html

Kyron, I wish you Peace and Love. 

http://www.amazon.com/Century-Novelty-Frog-Bowling/dp/B002PO59ZK

i like the idea of birthday week, im sure we are close enough, as DY prob
went into her labor of love, the day b4 his birth

how ya doing with the tacky toads,here is another fun one,sorta like bejewel
http://www.gamegape.com/en-1943-the-hunt-for-the-kur-stone.html

Seahorse, did you ever see this one? I used those frog pins in the image ;-)

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Dear Brandi,

I am always just blown away by the sheer beauty and magnitude of s ::MonkeyAngel::cope your work shows..just awesome.  I can see why Desiree would want to use your images of Kyron..they speak to the heart and soul of the person viewing them.  I am proud to be posting with you.

Gypsy

As Kyron gets older, he look more and more like Desiree, IMO.

Brandi, your artwork is awesome!  GypsyDD hit the nail on the head with her comment:  “I can see why Desiree would want to use your images of Kyron..they speak to the heart and soul of the person viewing them.”  And I can relate to Deenie’s comment “Okay between Monkey King and My Monkey ............. Kleenex please ......”.  I think our compassion is the reason we all hunt so diligently for answers and search for the little strands of hope in what sometimes seems hopeless.   

This looks like a reasonably comprehensive timeline surrounding Kyron’s disappearance:
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/Library/KH/khtimeline.pdf

Hi Brandi,

No, I'm sorry, didn't notice the Frog Bowling Pins.  Those wise-guy spirits of your are messing with me:)
Do you have the Frog cups?  Betcha you don't ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://www.birthdaydirect.com/frog-party-cups-8-p-21083.html?osCsid=jl2lgqpdhjr7t1i2lm1eqdf2l1

Brandi,

Frog party hats. 


http://www.birthdaydirect.com/frog-party-hats-8-p-21092.html

 ::monkeywine2:: Thank-you for the cool avatar!!!

Monkey's,

I wish you success with the party. This is too painful.  I will see you in couple days, or a week if his party goes longer.

Happy BD Kyron.   ::MonkeyJustice::

According to this article, there are 11 boys missing in Oregon close to Kyron's age. I have not had the time to check them all out yet as I am working, ugh. Brandi's artwork is outstanding and so awe inspiring!

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5763422/kyron_horman_who_is_the_groundskeeper_pg5.html?cat=34

That is frightening that there are 11 missing boys in Oregon all close to Kyron's age  ::MonkeyShocked::

Hi Monkeys.  I have not been here in a while.  Just got so frustrated with what happens to these kids.  Who is Mr. Stenson who is referred to in this article? 


WHERE IS KYRON?

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 :smt018 NO sneaking a cuppy-cake until tomorrow :smt018

I was so hoping Kyron would be home by now....Where are you Kyron and why can't we find you? Is it time to bring in a PI? I think it is

He is a groundskeeper (lawn mower guy for the city) that was there mowing the lawn the morning Kyron disappeared.  He has been interviewed by LE and gave testimony to the grand jury and their is zero reason to think he is involved in any way.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY KYRON.....you are everywhere because we all love you!
I saw this frog this morning at the supermarket and wanted to post it for Kyron.

Wow, thanks, Gypsy.

I am proud to be posting with all of you!

He is also a member of the band, The Grass Roots.

according to wikipedia:

Members

1965–1967

David Stensen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grass_Roots#Members
(appears he was an early member - seems he wasn't with The Grass Roots long?

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I have a commercial zero turn mower that does a 6 ft cut each pass..mows forward at 10 mph and mows reverse at 5mph. If they are using a commercial mower to cut a flat open soccer field it would take no more than 20 min.

His website: http://www.gungadave.xbuild.com

He gives a lengthy story about The Grass Roots there.

Thanks for the answers everyone.  From a member of The Grassroots to mowing the lawn?  Wow..... I just don't know what to say to that.  Sure do wish we would find Kyron.  It is heartbreaking for him to be missing all this time.  ::MonkeyTears::


Happy Birthday Kyron... wherever you are... tomorrow is your very special day.

thanks brandi i knew i knew that name, i saw the at an old tv show called
upbeat, and a club called the hallbalu

dave on the far right,he was the bass player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMsnsUbG2Rc&feature=related

Grass Root's Medley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_mO8tW_Sqw&feature=fvw


 on the farm pg, he says at his site, he is going to mexico
http://www.gungadave.xbuild.com/#/on-the-farm/4514218372

what is with mexico and farming in portland

I don't have the brain " frog power" to read the link (( NoRose)) does it have anything to do with a beloved " carpenter" .. or One who came forth because ? for Kyron, that he wanted to offer that his ex could never be compared to John Wayne Gacy, Charles Manson or Ted Bundy? This article is about 11 missing boys....what Cartoon character will crawl out of the woodwork to defend themselves over the 11 boys..? sorry I am feeling a bit cynical.

Kyron where ever you are, I know you bring :sunny: because it is within your smiles -
For those who felt Kyron's light in this world - Was too bright = Shame on YOU=Cowards.
One little boy that survived this planet for 8 yrs is way stronger than you will ever be - And has more power inside himself than you could ever imagine

I have played this in Caylee's name, Well I guess it is shared with Kyron too.
Not of Caylee or Kyron but of who failed them - who is not right within their world.

It's gonna get you, no matter what, It will get you - hopefully when you're in Vegas.


For Caylee and Kryon ~ you are loved  :smt049
Monkey's never forget  ::MonkeyCool::

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HANG IN THERE KYRON!!!

I have been without power for three days, and was so hoping to come here and find that Kyron had been found.

Where are you Kyron?  I wish we could find you safe and well, before your birthday tomorrow.

Much like Caylee I thought this case was so clear cut ... and I still think it is ... it's just proving it ... months later here we are.  TH will have to fish or cut bait eventually ... good luck with that ... and good luck ever being able to look at yourself in a mirror or live with your conscience.  For that reason ... I hope you are blessed with a long long life.

Since I can't be here tomorrow ...

Happy Birthday Kyron!  You little Monkey! :)

These are great Zippiddy! I so wish he was here to enjoy them. I still feel in my heart that he is alive. Please Lord, bring him home! Happy Birthday tomorrow Kyron! We all want you home so badly!

I totally agree Tracygirl! I am hoping that maybe there is already one involved and we are just not hearing about it. One can dream!

I have no idea who this person is or why they are accusing Mr. Stenson of anything. Having said this, she does bring up something that I hate beyond belief. Nambla. I know it is off topic but anyone who donates to the NAACP donates money to defend this organization in court. In my opinion, it does not get much sicker than this organization. Just when you think you have read it all...........http://www.nambla.org/

Very O/T: The NAACP has nothing to do with Nambla.

You may want to do a bit of research on that.

Let's please keep this thread about Kyron. 

Adding to the O/T then asking for it to please end.  I see nothing about the NAACP defending NAMBLA but the ACLU has:

http://www.aclu.org/free-speech/aclu-statement-defending-free-speech-unpopular-organizations

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlnQWaiMvUM&NR=1

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What I do is copy the embed link (see above) and paste it into the message area.  Then I preview and copy only the URL which in this case would be:

http://www.youtube.com/v/TlnQWaiMvUM?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US

Then if you highlight it and click on the FLASH icon (http://scaredmonkeys.net/Themes/default/images/bbc/flash.gif) the video will show up but it will be small.  You will see that the size automatically is set to 200,200.  You can change that.  I usually make it 400,360 or something along those lines.

http://www.youtube.com/v/TlnQWaiMvUM?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US

Sorry Klaas, I guess I forgot the JMO.

Klaas,
Would you please delete the about empty post!  Can you also tell me how to post a video?  Geesh!

I know this is old news, but it has been bugging me a lot lately. Does anyone know if it is routine to have the secret service involved with missing childrens cases?

Can we have the list of law enforcement agencies that have assisted in the Kyron Horman investigation?

Gresham Police, Fairview Police, Troutdale Police, Portland Police, Port of Portland Police, Clackamas County Sheriff’s Office, Clackamas County DA MCT, Multnomah County DA’s investigators, Washington County District Attorney’s Office, Washington County Sheriff’s Office, Gladstone Police, Oregon City Police, Milwaukie Police, Canby Police, Lake Oswego Police, West Linn Police, Vancouver Police, Hillsboro Police, Beaverton Police, FBI, DEA, ICE, Secret Service, DOD Defense Criminal Investigative Services, Oregon DOJ, Oregon State Police.

This list does not include search and rescue resources.

Where did you get your list from?  Secret Service shocks me and I find it hard to believe.  Unless the SS is in charge of something I'm not aware of like the airports or border crossing.

Definitely not normal to have Secret Service involved.. only involved in cases involving fraud, kidnapping for ransom or threat to the nation from what I was told

Apart from looking after the important people in the country "The secret service also investigates financial crimes, such as counterfeiting and fraud."

Kyron's case must either be a suspected kidnapping for randsom or maybe some kind of corporate espionage blackmail/fraud is involved..

I would like to know that also.

zippiddy this is exactly the cake that I would picture Kyron loving!  ::MonkeyKiss::  ::MonkeyAngel::

To date, I personally haven't seen any discussion on any of the forums of an Intel
involvement.  Odd, since there is also an airport close to where Kaine works at Intel.

What exactly is Kaine's job at Intel anyway?

Intel has NOTHING to do with this.

PROOF that Secret Service is involved:
http://www.katu.com/news/local/99143584.html

Can we have the list of law enforcement agencies that have assisted in the Kyron Horman investigation?
 

    * Gresham Police,  Fairview Police, Troutdale Police, Portland Police, Port of Portland Police, Clackamas County Sheriff’s Office,  Clackamas County DA MCT,  Multnomah County DA’s investigators,  Washington County District Attorney’s Office, Washington County Sheriff’s Office,  Gladstone Police,  Oregon City Police,  Milwaukie Police,  Canby Police, Lake Oswego Police,  West Linn Police, Vancouver Police,  Hillsboro Police,  Beaverton Police,  FBI,  DEA,  ICE, Secret Service,  DOD Defense Criminal Investigative Services,   Oregon DOJ,  Oregon State Police.

This was stated a long time ago btw

I think it is on here. This was part of the questions and answers that LE gave. I am really sorry, I thought this was old news. I will go find the link.

This was discussed over at Blinks and as I recall it has something to do with hitech triangulation of cell pings but I'll go over and see if I can find it.

Thanks zip. Sometimes we scim over news releases. I never noticed Secret Service on there. Nor did I notice DOD.

Call me suspicious, call me a conspiracy theorist, but I think all of these agencies involved is just odd.

Here is a link to Secret Service and how they assist in missing children cases. 

http://www.secretservice.gov/partner_ncmec.shtml

They are the best with forensics, cell phones and other items available at this time.

http://www.secretservice.gov/criminal.shtml (http://www.secretservice.gov/criminal.shtml)

 ::monkeyscissors::

Criminal Investigations

The United States Secret Service is responsible for maintaining the integrity of the nation's financial infrastructure and payment systems. As a part of this mission, the Secret Service constantly implements and evaluates prevention and response measures to guard against electronic crimes as well as other computer related fraud. The Secret Service derives its authority to investigate specified criminal violations from Title 18 of the United States Code, Section 3056.

Criminal investigations can be international in scope. These investigations include: counterfeiting of U.S. currency (to include coins); counterfeiting of foreign currency (occurring domestically); identity crimes such as access device fraud, identity theft, false identification fraud, bank fraud and check fraud; telemarketing fraud; telecommunications fraud (cellular and hard wire); computer fraud; fraud targeting automated payment systems and teller machines; direct deposit fraud; investigations of forgery, uttering, alterations, false impersonations or false claims involving U.S. Treasury Checks, U.S. Saving Bonds, U.S. Treasury Notes, Bonds and Bills; electronic funds transfer (EFT) including Treasury disbursements and fraud within the Treasury payment systems; Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation investigations; Farm Credit Administration violations; and fictitious or fraudulent commercial instruments and foreign securities.

Thanks.  There has to be a simple logical reason for the SS.

Lol Lazydog! You beat me to it!  ::MonkeyTongue::  ::MonkeyCool::

I bring this up since Kaine's computer was allegedly stolen and his possible job description at Intel.

Ok, gotta go.  ::MonkeyBike::

Tomorrow is Kyrons birthday. Sure would be great to have that little man be come home for his birthday!  ::MonkeyAngel::

The Monkeys love you Kyron!   :smt049

I still go back to my original theory that there was a ransom demand. It would explain why the parents were quiet in the very beginning and it would explain why all of these agencies are involved. JMO

There is ... it's now part of the PROTECT Act of 2003 aka the Amber Alert Bill.  Any county or city can ask for help from the Secret Service from what I've read.

Kaine's computer was not stolen. 

that makes sense, but why DEA? ::MonkeyCool::

I would guess at some level that some type of drug(s) were used somewhere in the commision of the "crime" .... would have to be some tie-in right?

a ransom could be a source of income for a high priced defense attorney... *ducking* *i am soooo bad* hehee sorry

I wouldn't nomally do this.  But I need everyones help.  If you could go to musings, where this doesn't really fit. Check out my recent post my group needs your help. Prepare to cry and become extremely angry.  This will hurt I guarantee you.


NOTE:  I'm adding the link to Musings but I don't think the post is there yet
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6981.msg1225612#new

http://www.justice.gov/dea/programs/progs.htm

Computer Forensic's Program maybe?

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Well... I clicked on the Nambla link and I was thoroughly disgusted.  I am truly sick of giving rights to every and anything.  I am sorry if this is offensive to anyone.  I just have old fashioned moral values...... and it is going to stay that way!

I know I am going to get lots of bananas thrown my way, but if it is as simple as TH (an unemployed housewife), having been the cause of Kyron's disappearance, do they really need that many law enforcement agencies on the case? Really? Maybe Terri was involved with a whole slew of other illegal activities that we have not been made aware of. If she has, she apparently has not been caught, but maybe has been under investigation for a long time? It just gets weirder and weirder. I so want Kyron home for his birthday! This is an innocent child for crying out loud. What is the matter with people? Ugh, this case is really getting to me!

EXACTLY! And following this line of topic, maybe they did the drop, but Kyron was not delivered after all. Maybe TH deposited the money into an account under an alias? Perhaps LE has a trail but is just tying up the loose ends? I don't know what to believe anymore. I just remember how important birthdays were for me at Kyron's age. He does not deserve not being able to celebrate his birthday with his family!

I don't think it's at all unusual for different law enforcement agencies to assist one another.  They may share information, equipment, expertise and etc.  (collaborate?)  Each agency may not be all that  deeply involved, perhaps they consult with one another and etc.  JMHO 

I hope Kyron can be found soon. 

Wasn't secret service involved with Caylee's disappearance? I thought they did something with cell phone data.

ALERT !!!
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5763422/kyron_horman_who_is_the_groundskeeper_pg2.html?cat=34
I know a few of us thought this was a possibility!  This woman came out with it!!!

Edited by Klaas to add:

IMO this article is libelous!  This writer is guessing.  Why would the groundskeeper have anything to do with the plants the students likely planted?  HE CUTS GRASS, that is his job.  NOT JUST AT THE SCHOOL, for the city.  There is no reason to suspect him of anything not to mention he has spoken with LE and the Grand Jury.

I believe I read a SS agent was deposed last week with the 35 LE officers by Baez.

Sorry ... confuzed here about "Alert !!!" ??? This stories from early July?  Am I missing something?   ::MonkeyConfused:: fill me in if so?

This was posted yesterday and I think we've had comments about it here today.
The landscaper testified to Grand Jury a couple weeks ago. As far as we know he is not involved. Maybe Klaas can expand a little more.

i was thinking today to encourage everyone to keep digging  ::MonkeyShovel::
i think that this case involves more than one person, sometimes in a case that is by one person, that person can stay quiet for years, but when you have tmore than one person involved someone will crack.
the bible says :But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, [23] Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. [24] And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. [25] If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. [26] Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another. Galatians 5:22-26  and this in my opinion, means that people that are involved in darkness are walking in jealousy, confusion, anger, arrogance, no restraint, rashness, impatience, etc.  (i am convinced that if kyron is alive he is being protected by God) but that these people will get  out there and make mistakes leading to their apprehension. people on the thsp board who seemed to me to be "friends" are lately leaving very angry. someone in this case will get upset, jealous, etc and spill the beans ::MonkeyCheer4::  in my opinion

This is the author of these articles. I always am skeptical when they say that they have psychic abilities. I used to be more open minded until I saw up close, too many psychics sending a grieving mom of a missing child on numerous wild goose chases. I am not saying that I don't believe that someone may have true ability, I just think that there are a lot of fakes out there.

OKAY DEENIE..You hit my heart on that one. 

John Lennon is my all time favorite.  He had so much to teach through his songs.  His heart was always in the right place.   

Yeah..we all shine on..hope everyone here is teaching their children and grand children that..we are the light..we all shine on.

Kyron..you shine on in the beautiful pictures your family took and our Brandi added the backdrop to match your spirit.  Shine on Kyron..shine on...you are about to turn 8 years old.with all the beautiful discoveries that await you in the universe.

it could be the computer forensics, but also this post got me thinking that sometimes people do drugs and then do bad things , or some people do bad things and do drugs to asssay their conscience. since they are already involved (dea) then hopefully this will be one more  angle investigators might be getting a lead in. (sackyattack is in recovery ::MonkeyBike::)

I'm not impressed especially after reading her posts on the Natalee Holloway case. 

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I sure hope she has more than this to point her crooked finger at Stenson:

Every dead end has a new beginning. We missed something in the Kyron Horman Case.. Something obvious. We need to go back and review things again. There are some things I am investigating right now about a man, the groundskeeper. His name is Dave Stensen, another D clue has entered the mystery of Kyron Horman. He was at the rear of the building and at first he says he wasn't at the school. Then says he was only there to mow the grass.

I also keep getting a box, crate, chest. Was Kyron packed?

I have had the word "tunnel" keep coming to me. Here is another link where remote viewers who are also working on Kyron. I do believe that we in the psychic world are being called to help.

Gale St John said she saw "slats". Also a garage or warehouse was mentioned here.
http://vimeo.com/14261781

On the Psychic Investigation link below she sees a metal grate, like drainage grate.
CLUE FOUND - from remote viewing words see Notes ****** post August 17, 2010 @ 418 am
http://www.squidoo.com/jessiefosterapsychicinvestigation

We in the psychic world receive information from the other side. Find your child, no matter how you have to do it.

It is possible that more people are involved as I see 4 people. 2 and 2 . 2 men, 2 women. While they all know one another, they are not all together at one time. They know each other from the community.

The fact that Kyron disappeared from the school, means something. Did someone work there? Visit there? Live nearby? We missed something for sure. Let's do schoolology now. The school is where Kyron vanished from, why? There were no cameras. There were two white trucks there that day, Terri's and the groundskeeper. Now the groundskeeper's story is changing. Kyron played soccer and knew the field. Did he go out back to play?. The groundskeeper was mowing the lawn that day? I hope all personnel especially the groundskeeper was thoroughly investigated. I noticed he has 2 rings in his left ear. This used to mean gay and dominant. I see no wedding ring either from the photograph at Katu.com. This man is 63 and rings in his ears at this age is not "cool", it's creepy.

Sorry, here is the link  http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5763422/kyron_horman_who_is_the_groundskeeper.html?cat=34

PLEASE stop posting links to her garbage.  There is zero substance to these allegations.

Please NO - Not Brian Ladd and Gayle St. John.  NOOOOOOO

Brian Ladd is a fraud and Gayle St. John isn't much better.

IMO Everyone is suspect in this case.   ::MonkeyCool::
Mr Stenson wears glasses. On June 4th is was raining that day. When you have to wear glasses in the rain, they have a tendency to fog up when it rains. If he was following OSHA codes, because he worked for the city, he would have to be wearing goggles to prevent anything from fly up into his eyes. So his vision would be questionable.

Again, IMO, there is no way that his sight was 100% that day. JMO.  ::MonkeyTongue::

I don't think the SS being involved is out of the ordinary. They were involved in the Caylee Anthony case as well.

Why couldnt the groundskeeper be involved?  The police havent found out that Name Redacted has a sex offender father so maybe they didnt know David Stensens background?

I think you might find this interesting.. there is a STANSON,DAVID MICHAEL who looks suspiciously like David Stensen listed on this website.. as a sex offender http://www.nsopw.gov/Core/OffenderSearchCriteria.aspx type in David Stensen as the name and out come two records - one is STANSON,DAVID MICHAEL - he looks a lot like this groundskeeper guy - I wonder if it is him?

AMEN!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyDevil::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Do we have a list of who testified before the grand jury?

My bad...I thought it was today...my sentiments are the same. ::MonkeyAngel::

I sure do love your spunk Klaas!  ::MonkeyAngel::  ::MonkeyKiss::

Darn it....looks like I have to drag my pooper scooper out and clean this cage ::MonkeyNoNo::

Did anyone actually read this..??

I think you might find this interesting.. there is a STANSON,DAVID MICHAEL who looks suspiciously like David Stensen listed on this website.. as a sex offender http://www.nsopw.gov/Core/OffenderSearchCriteria.aspx type in David Stensen as the name and out come two records - one is STANSON,DAVID MICHAEL - he looks a lot like this groundskeeper guy - I wonder if it is him?

Just like here at home.....night before a big party, all hell breaks loose, and I get stuck cleaning up the mess.  ::MonkeyJnBox::

I wear glasses when it rains. The only time I have fogging problems sometimes is when getting into my car or when I first go outside. Once I clear them and the temperature equalizes, they are fine. Some consider wearing glasses enough protection rather than goggles, and OSHA codes are always being broken.

1.  How do you know the police don't know that Name Redacted has a sex offender father?
2.  That was brought up when Stensen first gave his interview.  That guy doesn't look AT ALL like "our" David Stensen.  Also 02/19/09    INCARCERATED (TEXAS)

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How can you say what LE knows or doesn't know in this case? (See highlighted above)  IMO "we" are the ones that "DON'T" know much of anything evidence wise.
I see no resemblance in these 2 men at all - maybe they both have facial hair.. but to to me that's about all.  JMO's   ::MonkeyEek::  Somebody posted this info a month or so back as well if I recall - maybe a different site, I may be wrong  ::MonkeyEek::

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Good to see you, sassifrass!

Not sure about OSHA codes, but Dave apparently does not wear corrective lens eyeglasses all the time. Maybe when he is working he does, though.

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Nothing official that I know of ?

Could be for driving?

WE do not know what LE does or does not know about either of these guys. I'm pretty sure LE is smarter than some of us, and have investigated both of them. Just because they do not release info obtained during the investigations does not mean they aren't doing their jobs. That doesn't give us the right to start accusing innocent people.

Déjà vu or another let's-trash rehash? Sometimes I feel the posts here go in circles with the same info and discussions, especially those that are not productive.

If you read the page carefully he is on probation right now (see bottom) - change of status 2/19/2009
and I still think it looks like him

Yes.

And I should have added that I don't believe Dave has anything to do with this case except for perhaps any information he could give to the Grand Jury about his observations while at work on June 4.

Hi Brandi,
I quit following the Caylee Anthony case long ago. It made me toooooo mad and upset. Do you know what the SS did in that case? Thank you!

THANK YOU KLAAS..I HAVE YET TO SEE THEM BE EVEN CLOSE TO HELPING FIND THE VICTIM IN ANY MISSING PERSON CASE I FOLLOWED. 

Sorry, I'm behind and it's probably been mentioned, but what about the Murder for Hire?  Would that fall into such a category, or a ransom?

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Look at the noses ???????  Turf Tech's is puffy/bulbous .... guy from TX has a pinched-in nose that's pretty LONG for his face .....
NO - NADA - ZILCH similiarities to me .....  ::MonkeyNoNo:: nope

If you still think they look alike then I'll have to respectfully suggest you either put both photos together in photoshop or some other photo editing program and look a little closer or get a larger monitor. Their facial structure is totally different.  Have you looked at the older photos of Stanson from years past compared to the older photos that David Stensen has on his website?  THEY LOOK NOTHING ALIKE. 

GREY!!   ::MonkeyConfused::  speaking of "productive"  ::MonkeyDevil:: think you need to stock up that liquor cabinet - I'm gunna take up drinking with the rest of you monkeys   ::MonkeyEek::

 ::monkeywine2::   Put that weapon down first please    ::MonkeyDevil::

I think he is incarcerated in Texas, perhaps with Name Redacted2.

A 64-year-old man who dodged jail in a molestation case in the 1990s was sentenced to 17.5 years in a federal prison Friday for distributing child pornography.
David Michael Stanson pleaded guilty in April, admitting that he used peer-to-peer computer software to access and distribute more than 3,000 images and 150 videos of child porn over the Internet.

On Aug. 29, 2008, agents with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement served a search warrant at his home and seized four computers and three external hard drives. A forensic analysis of the equipment turned up the child porn.
Stanson's lawyer sought a five-year term, but Assistant United States Attorney Tracy Thompson argued for a sentence in the recommended range of 210 to 240 months.

U.S. District Judge Fred Biery chose 210 months, in part, after learning Stanson had gotten deferred adjudication in 1994 for pleading no contest to charges of unlawfully touching a 15-year-old. Biery also ordered Stanson to serve a lifetime under federal supervision should he ever get out of prison.

 ::MonkeyDevil::

MAYBE a good monitor cleaning is in order .. I know it help's me see things a 'lil more clearly online :)

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