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Starting this thread for all that would like to participate in offering up their Dreams of Kyron Horman. Dream's meaning " feelings & thoughts of his missing" or anything anyone would like to add for Kyron that would be considered " off topic" such as Music, blessings, what ever you want to add to support Him and bringing him Home.  :smt049 

Kyron Horman missing from Portland Oregon, Age 7, June 4th, 2010. 
Birthdate: September 9, 2010 - He is now 8 yrs old. 
 ::FlyingFrog::


image provided by crankycrankerson photobucket

A video to start it out, a shy, young man showing his love, dedication and  appreciation for his own " Frogs" that live within his room. He too has a red eyed tree frog :) 
Thinking of Kyron in mind, his love for " Red Eyed Tree Frogs"  Kyron being noted as shy and caring of his Bootsie the cat. 

Thanks for starting this, Deenie!  I will all what I have gotten up to this point.

June 16, 2010

I was thinking about Kyron.  I said, "Kyron, where are you?"

I got an image of a blue rubbermaid type container.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/casscat/602218_front200.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/casscat/2244-2-large.jpg)

I posted this first at WS and then later at SM.


On July 14, Wyks posted this photo on SM.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/casscat/phpiYVfCWPM.jpg)

It looks like it was on the Horman's porch.  I wonder if it's still there.  :(




On July 29, late at night, I was in the shower, and I was thinking about Kyron.  Looking at all the photos of him was making me sad.  I said, "I'm sorry, Kyron!  Poor little guy!"  I got an image of his face, pale and scared.  He was shaking his head and shaking his finger back and forth like no, no, no.  I got words something like, "I didn't take the ring!  I didn't hide the ring!"  I think it was a ring, because he touched his finger, and I got an image of a circular object.  I posted it on SM just after midnight on July 30.


Strangely, on August 28, this photo of Terri, without a ring, was being discussed at SM.  I had forgotten about my image of Kyron until I saw this.  I don't know if the two things are related, but it was odd.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/casscat/phppQO1uKPM.jpg) 

This was the only other odd thing.

On August 13, at night, I looked out the window by the front door.  A little green frog was on the window.  I was wishing it was a message of hope.  It didn't have red eyes, but it made me think of Kyron.  I've been seeing a lot of frogs and toads, but it was the first frog, of that kind, that I had seen in a long time.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/casscat/phpmudZ53PM.jpg)


On August 29, in the evening, I went out to herd the cats in.  A little green frog, like the one I took the photo of, jumped right on my leg.  It startled me, so I jumped.  It jumped off and then jumped back on my leg again.  It was so strange!  It was like it was trying to get my attention.

I guess I will start with my own dreams of Kryon.

I had a dream of Kyron within the first few weeks he was missing. It was not him " his face or being" but was a dream that I had of him. My only thought of recall of the dream

Fish Food

Which made me think of all kinds of things, mostly though of Water, and Bait - which made me feel that Kyron was lured to something that he would be easily swayed. Maybe someone at school the day of the fair ..lured him outdoors to find a Frog? Or lured him away from the school knowing he would go without questioning the adult or ? who?

Fish Food in the sense of " Hunger" not of Kyron being Fish Food himself. ( I don't believe that was of the meaning) but if anyone has ever fed say Catfish in a man made pond..they sense you standing and will come up to the water table..and will wait.
Hoping you will " feed them" .. which again goes back to bait.  Baiting and along with Water. I have had this feeling as well. Kyron and water. Why I cannot say.

Dreams are not always what they are and can be perceived in many ways.. If my post does not make sense .. its what it is. Dreams never make " sense" until they hit you sideways after the fact. I am not talking about " fantasy" but reality..

So this is why I created this thread, for those who wanted to offer up their " Dreams" " Gut" feelings of Kyron's disappearance.
One never knows what can come from thoughts and personal expression. Everything at this point within Kyron's missing is wanted and needed. 
 ::FlyingFrog::
Thank you

Claycat that is something yes - the little frog coming out of nowhere. Notice me I am here.
I believe that " things " happen for a reason .. that we all have Angel guides and are provided Nudges .. sometimes a Nudge can be just that " a little frog" tromping on your shoe or even bigger events. I think though its the small events that have the most meaning ..If we take the time to notice them. I am 43 yrs old and have had these events all my life.  ( some will call me naive or childlike/I think we are all naive to a point- The childlike I admit I am ) I have that open portal I guess that allows such things to come in (like a child)..that are not in my control.. I wish I did have control over it. I simply do not have the tools. I don't know how to focus my " open portal" for it to work for me .. I think you get my meaning.

I woke up this morning after a very intense dream about Kyron. Was of documents. Many documents being looked over and signed. But I cannot say who was holding them or signing them. Was not a negative or a positive - but it was def serious. It was very matter of fact.

I have had some dreams lucid that have come true right after waking up, or even thoughts within a millisecond that have guided me to protect me. Because I do listen.
Just an example so you understand.  When I was 17, myself a driver with little experience. I was working after High School at a local Hospital. I had just left the parking lot of my work. Never did I ever think or care to put on a seat belt. Was not a law enforced as it is now.  I was getting ready to pull out onto the busiest of roadway .. and I got a flash inside my head of a Dove covered in Blood.. I put my seat belt on. It was an automatic. I was T-boned, as I sat in a Turn lane, by a another car going 55 miles per hour less than ten minutes from that " Image".. that popped into my head. If I would not have had my seat belt on " the officers" all agreed I " my body" would have been blown out my windshield .. because of the damage my car sustained and the impact itself ... The driver needing " Jaws of life" to pry her out.

Me driving a steel boat 74 Pontiac, the woman who hit me driving a Spider .. tiny car.
My front tires exploded, my steering wheel was bent from my body hitting it - I had mass deep contusions after the fact, x-rays in ER that night. I suffered a bloody nose and shock on impact .. But I lived.  My car was fubar ..toast.  I know after seeing my car " after the fact" there is no way in Hxll I would have survived without my seat belt. 

Angel Nudges I do believe in them. And I feel them with Kyron too - I don't know how to focus them into words..   

The wedding Rings of Terri and Kaine

Titanium or ? Metal of ? that they are so dark " blackened" I don't understand the bands being so dark for a new relationship ..
just thoughts - preferences are to each not necessarily wrong or other.

 

God, Deenie!  That nudge saved your life.  I've had that still, small voice save me from disaster several times, but yours was a major experience.  I am also one that believes in synchronocity rather than coincidence.  I believe the frog thing I experienced was synchronicity.

(My SIL was driving her mother and sister somewhere. She was about to start through an intersection.  A loud voice yelled stop, so she stopped.  The car right next to her stopped, too.  Another car came blasting through the intersection, running a red light.  It would have been a terrible accident.  The people in my SIL's car and the neighboring car were looking at each other in shock.  They had heard the voice, too.)

See, Claycat its called paying attention to your surroundings .. me not making fun but saying I believe it's for a reason .. that you hear that voice. 
Understanding its not the voice that one hears over and over that is " ordinary" as Don't eat that Doughnut .. but is of that Flash of Voice that screams " Listen right now".. I think its meant to be heard.. and not pushed away .. as nonsense.

 ::MonkeyAngel::

Hello, hello!

Sorry it took me so long to skidaddle over here!  Can't wait to read the dreams and musings.

Thanks, Deenie for starting this thread.

Cheerio,

K. Cat 
 ::MonkeyKiss::

 ::MonkeyAngel::

Whew!

Gavin de Becker, (personal protection specialist -- he's watched over 2 presidents as well as George Harrison after he was attacked) says in one of his books (either "The Gift of Fear" or "Protecting the Gift, Keeping Our Children Safe")  that humans are the only animals that ignore their intuition.

He uses an example like this:  In the jungle, when an antelope sees a lion approaching him, he doesn't question his instincts to run.  He doesn't hang around and try to be polite.  He doesn't say, "Yeah, it's a Lion, but I bet he's a really nice guy".

He just gets the heck outta there.
 ::CowboySmiley::


More later, Monkeys! 

Sweet dreams  :(  and be safe. 
 ::MonkeyAngel::

Every time I've ignored that voice, my ass has been grass.  Luckily, I've lived to tell about it.

Dang!  I'm supposed to bee in bed.  OK... I just gotta check this out... I haven't seen it.  Is there a link?  is it right in front of me?  Should I go try to find it?

Thanks! 

I will have to find it and post, was not an article but photo's of TH and Kaine wedding photo's wearing a " blackened ring"
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Kyron%20Horman%20%20-OR-/?start=80
photo's ..not sure if the rings are shown. I do recall though seeing them both wearing the same " rings" within photos of their wedding and after.
They are not tarnished but blackened if that makes sense .. almost black.

 ::MonkeyAngel::
Thanks, Deenie!
 ::MonkeyKiss::
I'm so glad you're still up & so sorry I have to go to bed!
I'm looking, but can't find. 

I must say this, though:

I think Terri and Kaine may have been into something very dark.  I can't say anything more about this right now... but do you have any feelings about it? 

Thanks in advance for your insights.  Again I'm sorry I have to retreat! 

Good night, Sweet Deenie & Monkeys!
 ::monkeywine2::

That antelope is correct .. in many ways.  ::MonkeyAngel::

No Worries tomorrow is another day to be looked at " yes, please" ..  ::MonkeyAngel::
Good Nightly Night, Rest well :)

I'm with you on that!  There are times I certainly should have listened!

Deenie,

Sadly, I have always felt Kyron may have been used as "bait".  You may be interested in my post on this subject in #31, posted just a few minutes ago.  Also, note the reference page.  I think you will find this very interesting...

Good night!

 ::MonkeyAngel::   ::MonkeyCool::   ::MonkeyAngel::

Everyone, absolutely everyone, has psychic ability!  Some have less than others.  It can be made stronger through meditation and practice.  Our sixth sense is a God-given ability to help protect us.  It doesn't matter what you call it!  It may be called psi, sixth sense, intuition, gut instinct, any number of things.  It's real, and we all have it, whether we like it or not.  Some people have a lot of it and get amazing information.  Some have a little and just know things like who is on the phone. 

There are some people who are very close-minded about it because of religious nonsense or whatever reason.  I say religious nonsense, because why would it be against religion when God gave it to us.  Since those who are close-minded do not read this thread, they won't find insult here.  However, I have felt insult when people slam me for being psychic.  I have tried to tell people about an image I have received, and they interrupt me and tell me they absolutely won't entertain the idea.  This happened to me recently (not on this forum).  Then they say everyone has their opinion.  Well, they didn't let me have mine, did they? 

I do not like frauds either.  They cause more problems than they help and make it hard for the rest of us. 

Most psychics are not mind readers.  It is extremely rare to be able to read the thoughts of others.  Knowing future events is also rare, because the future is constantly changing based on the decisions we make.  However, people's lives have been saved by a premonition that they should not do a certain thing.  We all know instances of that happening.  Dreams that come true are not just dreams.  They are premonitions, and premonitions are a part of psychic phenomena.

Psychic is not a curse word.  It's just a word to describe psi ability or the sixth sense or intuition.

Someone said if there were real psychics, there would be very few missing children.  I don't know why it is so hard to get things about the location of the missing.  If they are dead, it is a little easier, but if they are children, it is much harder.  Many of them don't have the words/images to let you know a specific location.  I tried with Madeleine and Caylee and Haleigh.  I got images of places with Madeleine, but they were physical locations that could be many places.  I wasn't given the name on a map or the longitude and latitude.  (By the way, of all the stand out cases, Madeleine is the only one I believe to still be alive.)  I got an image of Caylee sleeping.  She had lines across her in a shadow pattern, like the moon shining through window panes.  I didn't realize until later that was the grid they laid out when they found her remains.

The things I get are in brief flashes.  They are images, words, feelings, and they aren't always clear.  In fact, much of it is hazy.  I'm not as good as someone like John Holland or Gordon Smith.  I don't have it that strongly.  I sometimes think I want to develop it more, but the stronger it is, the more disturbing it can be.

And, by the way, people with psi ability make mistakes.  It is a human condition.  It is sometimes very difficult to tell what is coming through you or what is coming from you.  If it's coming from you, it is not psi. 


I don't really know about Kyron.  I am not sure.  I have felt he is dead, but I'm not getting the snapshots I do when people are dead.  I get images more like still photos when I get an image of a dead person.  However, Caylee moved around some in my images, and she was dead, so that isn't always how it is.  The only moving image I have had of Kyron was the one about the ring, and that may have been in the past.  Interestingly, someone at WS had a dream about a woman's ring in water.  What she wrote sounded like a ring being flushed down the toilet.

Also, when I had the image of the blue bin, it was closed, and it was sitting on grass.  I didn't get water, so I don't know if it was before it was buried or before it was put in water.  Of course, the bin might not even be right, but I got it so strongly, it felt like it had relevance.


Deenie, be true to yourself!  If you have dreams that come true, then you have some psychic ability.  My mother had dreams that came true.  I imagine I get the tendency from her. 

There are plenty of threads that have poems, photos, and memories of Kyron.  What we need here are dreams, visions, thoughts, and feelings.   

CC ITA  ::MonkeyAngel::

My mom had physic abilities also. The things I could tell you ..... I, myself had many dreams come true and because of them, saved 2 peoples lives. I've also had many dreams about Kyron with names in them. Names I never heard of prior.

Don't let other people criticize your gift. I'm glad to see you standing up for what you believe in. Great post my friend!  ::MonkeyKiss::  ::MonkeyAngel::

I was not going to post in this forum due to the fact that the discussion is regarding "psychic" abilities. I do not intend to insult or take away from the discussion in the thread. These are just my thoughts and opinions.

Personally my beliefs are that labeling ones self as "psychic" or allowing others to do that for or to you is in a sense enabling ego driven agenda(s) and empowering ones self over others.
I believe that everyone has this sense that is often overlooked. I've explained it (even recently enough) very similarly to the way that Claycat did in that it is no different then (hypothetically speaking) when say you are walking out to get the mail but something stops you. You sense that you should not go just then so you don't. A few minutes later a car speeds by and wipes out your entire mailbox. Had you gone you would have been hit by that car.

I believe in our Creator. I believe that our Creator has created all things both big and small. We are an extention of our Creator.
That being said, to make claim that I or anyone else were a "psychic" would be empowering myself or others to a Label/Status that is both unreasonable and illogical.

Some folks say, "Well here are all these people that have sense abilities yeah right well when they win the lottery then I might believe it".
HA HA HA. If it was meant for anyone to win the lottery and it is in our Creators plan then of course it would happen.
There is no greater power than our Creator.

Then now we have folks saying things like that if someone has abilities then they know to do this or that or contact this person or that person or whatever if they have had a vision. (Some say a dream.) Really? How does that work? Is there some sort of guide book that some folks are privy to that others are not?
No really, is there? If there is who wrote it?

And the term "dream" doesn't really fit for some. Maybe it does for others but the dream is a vision is a dream. It doesn't really fit. Does it happen when you are awake or asleep or both? Can you dream in color? Do all of your other senses smell, touch, taste, hear and sight work in tandem with a dream? What do you feel exactly when you are having a vision? How can you know when it is a vision vs say an insignificant day dream?

What do you know? Can you read minds? Can you predict? Are you friend or foe? Do you have many friends? Why? Why not?

Aside from all the questions I just have to say that I am a believer in the sense. You are not a freak. As a matter of fact and not to be mean but you aren't "special" neither. If you believe that you know something that might help to find a missing person or help any circumstance then just do what you can. I am also a believer in justice and BTW I just heard on HLN that the monster Phillip Garrido was in court again for something or other.
Justice for Jaycee and her family might be late in coming, but, coming it is.







 

I apologize Klaas and will do!
 :thumright:

Thanks Klaas for that reminder!  ::MonkeyAngel::

So, a bit after I started having the Kyron dreams, I learned a good lesson from my mom. When I wake up from the dream, I write things down so that I don't forget them. I wake up a few times during the night and then look at my notes in the morning.

One of the dreams I had about Kyron, a specific name came through the dream, and I actually woke up saying the name out loud. I wrote it down, and thought, "who the heck is that"? I never even heard of the name before. The next morning I googled the name and it turned out to be a specialty dr. located in Portland, Or, and of course, with red hair.

One of the other dreams I had, which was 2 nights ago, was of the pic below, but it was live. Kyron kept waving at me saying, "I'm here, I'm here! Can't you see me?"

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs313.snc4/40974_1548129030575_1455555423_1421616_6236127_n.jpg)


I'm not sure what they mean. It's only 2 of many that I've had. I've had a lot of dreams in my life that came true. At least 2 of them helped me save 2 peoples lives, both of them potential drowning victims. I don't know why this happens. It just happens.

With Kyron, these dreams are so emotional, sometimes I just wake up crying.  ::MonkeyTears::

I wanted to clarify that, they are a  pediatric specialist in Portland, Or.

Wow, Sassifrass!  Maybe that's his doctor! 

First I want to say that this dream was at the very beginning of when I heard about Kyron being missing.

As far as the thought that they may have been the dr., I don't know CC. I'll tell you this, I did some searching and investigating and there are some fishy things going on. I gave up the research because I was hitting a brick wall. By that I mean, I kept being diverted by other people surrounding them. This person is retired and holds a VERY private practice now.

I guess I need to go back to researching them. Some of it is still 'in progress'.

Btw, I sent you an email.  ::MonkeyTongue::

I hope and pray that I may dream a little dream of Kyron tonight. 
Goodnight, Monkeys.  Goodnight Kyron.
 ::MonkeyAngel::

I had a dream of a similar guy, but the one in my dreams was taller, skinnier, dirty... like a homeless vagrant.

The one in my dream is at the bottom of a hill, with a similar winding road... in my dream he finds a black bag by the side of the road and it's something very scary to him.

(http://media.katu.com/images/100310_sauvie_island_search.jpg)


(Moving this post to dreams thread-MuffyBee)

Ooopsie!

I meant to post my last post in the dreams thread.

My "pologies."

:D

(Moving this post to dreams thread-MuffyBee)

I have had four dreams about Kyron. Two of which I already wrote at the beginning of the main Kyron thread, and the last one I wrote by mistake tonight in the current thread.

The third dream is this: there is a room, like in an office or classroom... and there is a bulletin board where people pin notes or papers into.

A lady pins a paper and it falls off. Under the bulletin board there is some type of table or cabinet, so the paper falls behind it.

The lady moves the table/cabinet and behind it there are many papers that have fallen off in the past. Then another lady in the room picks up a paper and says, "this is Kyron's."

The wall behind the table is sorta rotten or has a hole, so that there is a tiny space where other papers have been piling up. Again, someone looks under it and says, "this is Kyron's."

That's it.

I don't know if it has any meaning, other than a recreation of something I may have read or seen the day before. I hope it gives someone an idea in regards to Kyron.

:D

Itaryl, it sounds like a strategy room where the detectives would deal with Kyron's case.  Maybe it's about lost or hidden information.   

Thanks, Muff.

My brain ain't as sharp as it used to be, and no way of telling where my post will go when I have two threads open at once.

Will be more careful next time.

:D

Thanks, Claycat.

Yah, was thinking it's an office because there's only adults (mostly women) in it.

Anyway, I'm sure it's nothing.

Just writing it down cause it's about Kyron, and I've been onto stuff before... though I'm not claiming to be psychic and, if I were one, I would be a REALLY bad one.

Hehe!

:D

I have had several dreams about Kyron as well.

I do believe because I have concentrated on him so much that he is incorporated into my dreams.. 

My one dream of him, being of Fish Food .. again as CC or Koko said it could be perception that Kyron was bait .. or along that line. Or Water. Some of my dreams can be very vivid.
The last dream I had of Kyron,
 Was of a small closet. Like a cabinet built in type closet. Not of depth,  It was very dark in color. Not like a filing cabinet type of " storage with drawers" but a small closet like space with a door.

Then came a cut, on the inside of a arm, that required attention, yet was not urgent.
Maybe its my interpretation of Kyron being held in a dark place and he is/was hurt - or taken by the arm.. 

Just never know what can come of dreams, or even interpretation of them.

All I know is that I have had too many dreams come true within less than an hour of being awake - in my personal life. That has boggled my mind of how it could be that I dreamed it and it did happen right afterward. Maybe we can make our own cage and then be able to profess and chat about such things.

I found this and thought it was so sweet for Kyron, must have been made by one of his friends/classmates

 

That is such a sweet poster, not fancy or anything, just done with a lot of heart.

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The searches have been done in the water, so the fish food dream may have to do with he being in water.

I had a dream at the beginning, after finding out about Kyron, of he going into water, the water was clean but looked greenish and was "bubbling"...

I know that when you feed fish in small ponds they move towards the food and the water look like is boiling, because all the fish scramble at once.

Hmmm...

In the dream I heard a woman laughing and taunting Kyron to go in, she was talking with someone else.

Weird.

Ok, disclaimer I am not psychic but at the beginning of this case I had a dream of a few things- please be forewarned this is not a happy dream.




There is a blue car. It's a car, not an SUV or a truck. There are 2 adults. A woman with red hair and someone else with dark hair (I want to say it is a woman but I'm not positive). There is a small flat area that overlooks some rugged terrain. The person with dark hair threw him off this cliff. I see him in his CSI t-shirt, light jean shorts, white socks, and Sketchers (black and green) at the bottom of a small canyon with a stream.

I know it came out later he was wearing dark pants and Sketchers that were black and orange...kinda freaked me out I had the right type of shoes. I also read they were searching ravines and I didn't know what a ravine was. I looked it up and it said a small canyon. I certainly hope I am completely wrong.

Hi Noodles!  Welcome!

That was a disturbing dream!  It's a shame you didn't get a better look at the dark-haired person.

Moosee,

Years ago I had a bf that lived on a huge " beautiful lot of land" over 14 acres. Most of it was dense trees etc.. and pure nature.

Yet he had within his property a huge huge man -made pond.

He made it himself, with help of friends that had heavy equipment to create it.  He then stocked it with Catfish.  It looked like a small lake literally. It had two long decks that were able to walk over the water. I would go out and feed the Catfish with pellets.

They had mouths so big, that I swear my entire fist would be puny compared.
They could smell you and see your shadow even before you threw one pellet.

They would swarm into a group and the water would darken - me noting where to throw the pellets. Fish Food and Kyron ..within my dream,  very strange yes. 
Your dream of bubbling water, would be of just that, the Catfish * their bubbles would stay just under the water line.. and they would wait for pellet to be thrown.. so they could be the first served and show themselves.. 

strange yes

Hey, Deenie, I was just reading in the main thread and saw your post. I hope you are not considering leaving, because you are one of the monkeys who contributes the most to the topics.

Maybe I misunderstood.

I think that each person's perspective at looking at things can be refreshing and interesting to read, specially when it appears that there is nothing else to be said in a subject.

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Back to Kyron, the water theme is common in this and other forums I've read.

Maybe it's just common sense at work, because there are so many bodies of water in the area, and discarding in water would be more convenient because there is no digging, thus no evidence on clothing, shovels, etc... and less time.

:D

Wow! Sassi, this is amazing!
The only good thing about Kyron going missing is we have all had a chance to "meet" him.  I know this sounds deranged.  But, he's not just any kid to me on the news anymore.  I feel like I met him last summer... 

I haven't really dreamed about him though. 

Good pointers from your mom on remembering dreams, I'm gonna try that tonight, who knows?  Maybe I'll see Kyron!

K. Cat.
 ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::MonkeyEek::
Wow... that is one HUGE rubber maid container.  I didn't know that made them that big!  Throughout the summer some other people were saying they had visions of this.  And... I just couldn't picture it.  But, I didn't know they came in this size.
 ::MonkeyWaa::
 
I had a dream about skulls the night after the last search on SI.  But, I forgot it until I saw that quote from one of the searchers in the media:  "we're looking for bones".

Actually, in my dream?  I was surrounded by monkeys in my basement.  Someone was trying to break into my house upstairs.  I was trying to keep the monkeys quiet and lock the windows... when I stumbled into two human jaw bones.

Ugh. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Deenie! 
 ::MonkeyKiss::

Will you still visit this cage? 

I'm sorry I've been neglecting y'all here...

I just don't feel ready to talk about this stuff yet.  But I'm very interested in everyone's experiences...
hope to continue reading...

 ::dogwag::

::MonkeyEek::

Moosey... how scary!  That would REALLY REALLY creep me out! 

 ::MonkeyEek:: 

Poor Kyron.  Though I really feel that if he has crossed over... his body is not important to him anymore... just to us. 

 ::MonkeyAngel::

Kokos Cat, I'm sorry about your skull dreams.  That must have been disturbing!  :(

Moosee,

Possibly when I wrote that I was feeling a little insecure. I don't want to taint myself by coming off here " dream cage of Kyron" as " having some sort of magic capability" that I see things within my dreams - type of thing. You picked up on that. I can tell. 

I thank you for that, I really do appreciate the fact you did pick up on my thoughts.

All I know is what I do recall. Again I have always had very very vivid dreams - from my childhood up until present. I have even be told by my elders " when I mention something of my dreams" they say there is no way you would recall that ever ,, you were less than two years old type of thing, that it would be of mention that clearly I would not have known ..and yet I can see it as if it were plain as day - in my mind.

That and I have this built in magnetism when it comes to children and animals. They gravitate towards me and I have a keen sense with animals, that is unexplainable. I found out when I was in my late 20's, that my Great Great Grandmother was Cherokee Indian and lived on a reserve - I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not.

With Kyron, his choice of Red Eyed Tree Frog and his dedication to learn about/share with others the Frog and it's habitat tells me ..that Kyron was a sensitive child as well. That he chose such a " Unique" Amphibian with special characteristics ..yet was a unknown to most and many.. Kyron felt he was like the Red Eyed Tree Frog himself, or he identified himself with the species of Frog.

http://www.honoluluzoo.org/Red-eyed_Tree_Frog.htm


PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS:

The average size of Agalychnis callidryas is no more than three inches. The Red-eyed Tree Frog is usually an extremely bright green with cream and sky blue along the rib and groin area. The hands and feet are marked with a bright orange and are also lined with blue and cream. The most recognizable physical characteristic of Agalychnis callidryas are their bright red eyes.

Agalychnis callidryas has other adaptive features. The long limbs on these frogs are better suited for climbing than swimming. Another feature is the sucker pads on the end of each digit. These pads allow the frogs to stick to various objects and provides better traction on wet leaves and branches. Most of the frogs that are in the Hylidade family have a third eye lid called a nictitating membrane. The purpose of this membrane is to shield the frog's sensitive eyes from various dangers. The lid is often brightly colored and does not completely restrict it's vision.

DISTRIBUTION and HABITAT:

Agalychnis callidryas are found in the neotropical rainforest of central America. This species of frog is completely arboreal or tree dwelling and they are excellent jumpers. These frogs rarely descend to the ground and move in a very stealthy and deliberate manner. They are completely nocturnal.
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Kyron's favorite song being Fireflies by Owl City which talks about

" Dreams and Being Scared - With knowing when I am asleep/or in another place- all is Safe, that I as a child have some control over what is or what isn't- as long as I dream, Capturing Childhood in a Jar, like Fireflies "   

http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107858786100/

lyrics and meanings of the song -added within comments of others - over 300 comments of Kyron's fave song.

Lyrics:

You would not believe your eyes
If ten million fireflies
Lit up the world as I fell asleep
Because they'd fill the open air
And leave teardrops everywhere
You'd think me rude but I'd just stand and stare

I'd like to make myself believe
That planet Earth turns slowly
It's hard to say that I'd rather stay awake when I'm asleep
Because everything is never as it seems

Because I'd get a thousand hugs
From ten thousand lightning bugs
As they tried to teach me how to dance
A foxtrot above my head
A sockhop beneath my bed
A disco ball is just hanging by a thread

I'd like to make myself believe
That planet Earth turns slowly
It's hard to say that I'd rather stay awake when I'm asleep
Because everything is never as it seems

When I fall asleep leave my door open just a crack
(Please take me away from here)
Because i feel like such an insomniac
(Please take me away from here)
Why do I tire of counting sheep
(Please take me away from here)
When I'm far too tired to fall asleep?

To ten million fireflies
I'm weird because I hate goodbyes
I got misty eyes as they said farewell
But I'll know where several are
If my dreams get real bizarre
Because I saved a few and I keep them in a jar

I'd like to make myself believe
That planet Earth turns slowly
It's hard to say that I'd rather stay awake when I'm asleep
Because everything is never as it seems

I'd like to make myself believe
That planet Earth turns slowly
It's hard to say that I'd rather stay awake when I'm asleep
Because everything is never as it seems

I'd like to make myself believe
That planet Earth turns slowly
It's hard to say that I'd rather stay awake when I'm asleep
Because my dreams are bursting at the seams
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I add this video because it has lyrics on the screen

http://www.youtube.com/v/rO3gg2cVfxg?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0

 ::FlyingFrog::

It is magic, Deenie!  Real magic! 

If you can find it, read a book by Paul Gallico called The Man Who Was Magic.  It is a wonderful book about real magic.  I've never liked magic shows, sleight-of-hand, any of that stuff!  David Copperfield isn't for me.  There's always a trick to it.  It's not real magic!

You can see things in your dreams.  You have a knowing beyond knowing.  You've got it going, girl!  :)

I love that song Fireflies.  I understand why Kyron would love it!  Kyron knew there was real magic.

Koko I love " Kyron's Song" too. Its funny that you say you do not like Magic Shows - Me neither. Never have, never will.  No interest.
My imagination and all the years of feeling Deja Vu .. so many times its not even funny. Is more enough for me to handle.

I was dreaming about Kyron last night. And it was like a repeat and repeat - for I was in a dead sleep. 

I kept feeling or acknowledging " Twin Girls Age 9" That were either around Kyron or near him or something to do with him. Both girls with dark hair. Both very sweet and loving - yet not able to touch him or talk to him. But they certainly had/have interest in him.

I don't know, some of my dreams do not make sense even to me.

Then came a stack of money, was not huge as in amount $$ was a huge stack of money though of 1's, 5's  nothing above a 5.00 dollar bill. Was something to do with the lottery. And red paint /ink ? Not like paint in a can. But Red Markings on the money? inked spots?
( now me typing that, makes me think of blood money) whew..ugly.

 Again I do not know. That is all I can recall.  The twins though were very clear and very strong in my dream.

Thinking of Kyron, Thank You all who type here, in Kyron's Dream cage.

Sorry I meant Clay Cat ~~ oh Throw in Koko Too - for my last Post.

I meant to say Clay Cat  ::MonkeyAngel::

It's okay, Deenie!  That's an odd dream about the twin girls and the money.  Oddly, I got a dollar bill the other day with red paint on it! 

 ::MonkeyEek::

Deenie, you are going to freak.  Read this.

http://www.ksat.com/news/25269290/detail.html

http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/news/local/Dad_of_drowned_twin_9-year-olds_dies.html

The father, too.

Deenie, the twins probably are with Kyron!

Clay it may not make sense, but this is the first thing that grabbed my mind - reading the story of the two 9 yr old twins - I am at a loss for words. I can only pray that Kyron is safe where ever he is - I feel that I can express myself here, so this is my unique prose ~ within this feeling I feel Kyron is being carried and loved by Angels  ~ he is separate from us.  He is whole. He no longer fears or is frightened - but he is in a place that is incomplete and will be until he is found. He is floating between two worlds - he is a powerful child, all by himself - and he has a million people attached to his spirit - looking for him.

http://www.youtube.com/v/jL6vw5xI0Bg?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0

Beautiful thoughts, Deenie!   ::MonkeyAngel::

Clay I think we need to let him go ~ for him to be found. Does that make sense?

It makes absolute sense, Deenie! 

Good evening, My Monkey Friends!

Yes... I've felt for some time now that I needed to let him go.  That he has crossed over. 
Amazing dream and catch Deenie & CC!  Profound.

I'm sorry I haven't been very active on this thread.  I guess that's the reason why... I've been trying to pull away.

Thinking of you all, and wishing you well, though.

Good night, Dear Monkeys.  Bless you.

 ::MonkeyAngel::

Koko's Cat 

Bless you, too, Kokos Cat!

http://missingpersons.phpbb3now.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=46&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=36856555af8f1f368d6cfe89fea39a31 (http://missingpersons.phpbb3now.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=46&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=36856555af8f1f368d6cfe89fea39a31)

This is the first part of this thread after Kyron went missing. It is continued several times throughout the summer.... It may be of interest....


 ::MonkeyAngel::

I say this in a soft voice

and that will only be understood by those who understand

"I think we need to let Kyron go  ~ so he can be free"  ::MonkeyTears::

So he can offer those searching for him guidance.

 He can nudge ~ direct others ~ I am here, right here   

 ::MonkeyAngel::

I think that Kyron needs love right now and nothing else.

Kyron's case is just as insane as - words to be misunderstood, towards Terri, who I don't have a clue of what to think , makes me question what really matters to Terri. Not until she proves different. And its been almost 4 months, since she made a public appearance for Kyron. Even then only to show a face, not to talk.

Maybe this song will make a matter of meaning - Since her life has been such of Opera. Terri's life on Queen ~ pity pity me please, everything I have attempted has failed.  Nothing really matters to me ~I beg of you to forgive me. Who is that one to forgive her?

Seems that Terri only feels she can stand as long as she has a support system to back her. Even if it's short lived. And treats her named friends the same/ back and forth/ teases them etc. Terri is a Fair Weathered Human Being within her personality.

Terri's personality in a nutshell - I have always been " a one singular" person - and if I do not choose to assimilate - its the others loss not mine.    Me Me Me ~ please someone recognize me. (( dang it again back to Melissa Huckaby))  .. I need to be recognized.

http://www.youtube.com/v/qLjttg3wgCw?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0


I believe she has a true love for Kiara and James, and she felt that Kyron was a child with options. That may have been planned out to be, at first one thing,  and it turned out to be quite the opposite. Hense her lack of love for her own self, her own self empowerment.

Who was her weakest link and least to be considered in her life - Kyron - yet would exude the most " commotion" if he were to turn up missing ... again Melissa Huckaby Syndrome.

Melissa Huckaby serving Life without Parole - Sandra Cantu.
I believe that others were involved * within Sandra, but doubt it will ever be proven.
I still think MH deserves the needle/chair/ whatever works. Death so she can meet her own, that she so praises. Sorry for the offensive thoughts, they are of my own.
   
I think Terri and Melissa Huckaby share one thing in common - they are Martyrs
And found it to be working for the majority of their lives ..until something snapped, which led them to their victims - who were the sacrifices that represented everything they knew they could be IF, never would be loved as Because, never could possibly understand why their own Mothers gave them up. I think its very deep within psychology - Melissa was carted around and tossed from family member to husbands to ?? -

Her/MH own Mother stating after the conviction " we took her to many doctors, there was nothing wrong, even though she was cutting herself almost to the point of suicide, we never challanged the Doctors ..because Melissa said it was  " nothing". We didn't think anything of it. " Again Nothing really Matters to me"   

Terri being Adopted and focusing on that for her own reason.  A lack of bonding or a rebel yell of her own towards Kyron?   

Either way  Sandra and Kyron paying the price of two dysfunctional women - and families that let the warnings go wayside, that the (elephant in the room) became their normal after years - so it was not thought as " abnormal" it became OH that's just Mellisa or Oh that's just Terri

 :shock: :smt078

 Never for any of them to understand how abnormal their " labeled normal " was/is.

Very Sad and Telling. 

jmo 
 

I've been hoping to have a dream about Kyron, about where he is and how he is doing. But, it's been awhile since I had one of those dreams that is about someone missing.

Last night I did have one, but (not sure if writing it here would be the right place, but can't think of another thread)... it was about Anjelina Jolie. I think I had the dream because she has lots of children, and the comments and news of missing children are everywhere these days.

So, I dreamed she had been working and when she went to pick up her kids one was missing. She went nuts looking for her (daughter) and it took a long while to find her... it turned out at the end that one of her past babysitters had her.

One of my daughters looks like Anjelina... though mine doesn't have the huge lips or BIG paycheck that Anjelina has (or the cute boyfriend.) So, I told her to be careful, just in case. Of course, she tells me I'm crazy, but later she always remembers what I tell her and takes care.

Anyway, I was hoping (like everyone else) to somehow get a hint as to where would Kyron be, now that evidence and witnesses have not gotten anywhere in finding him.

I mean, it's helpless.

Now there's just the Kaine/Terri court feud, and though their shenanigans puts their names on the papers (and Kyron's along)... none of that is helping find Kyron.

You are so right, Itaryl!  None of the shenanigans are helping to find Kyron.

Where is Kyron?

In Oct of 2010 I had to have a MRI done, I wasnt going to post this but something keeps pushing me to share this with you all. Everyone knows what a MRI is and if anyone ever had one they will tell you its very uncomfortable and loud sounds like jack hammers pounding around you.

Zahra had been reported missing a few days earlier.

As I was in the MRI trying to get my mind blank so I could get through it I had a vision or something, not sure what it was cause I have never had a dream while I was awake.

I saw 2 shadows standing over Zahra's bed, I knew they were EB and AB even though I could not see their faces or anything to tell me it was them.

They were beating Zahra with something I could see blood splatters on wall etc, I  saw Kyron walk to her bed took her hand and walk her to the door where a beautiful woman was standing, Zahra looked back at the bed and tears ran down her face, the beautiful woman took Zahra's hand smiled down to her and they began to float upwards with Kyron standing in Zahra's bedroom waving his hand to them. This was basically like watching a movie or something its hard to explain. But at that point in Oct I believe Kyron is alive due to him not joining the woman and Zahra. I knew if they found Zahra her body would be cut up.