Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum

 ::MonkeyDance::

helloooooooooo did i do it?? Crap I'll get fired

It worked good for me!   ::MonkeySkate::

You did it Nut.

No pink slip for you, Nut!!  No way, Jose!   ::MonkeyTongue::

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ::monkeywine2::

jesushcristnowonderiamamental case

I hereby dedicate this thread to Natalee coming home! Somehow, Someway........... Let it be so!!!

And may Joran never feel at home again as long as he lives!

youjustneedtoflingsomemonkeypoo!  ::MonkeyWink::

Just driving by  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyAngel::

wow........ ::rhino:: I did it and I want answers..... REAL answers.

Thank you Nut44x4!   ::MonkeyCool::

I want real answers too!   ::MonkeyGavel::

Send the POS home with me........I have ways I can torture that are not allowed by means of legal matters......hurry though, my home is for sale.

I was just wondering why the multiple posts about Steph Watts/Tim Miller being posted here, when we have them in the partial transcripts threads http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8625.msg1235937#msg1235937
 WATT'S UP WITH THIS? STEPH WATTS & TIM MILLER 9/19/2010 (PARTIAL) TRANSCRIPT

So far there are six posts with excerpts from the partial transcripts texasmom posted by Janet and no discussion.   :2thinky:

Just reminders.  Maybe the excerpts of Tim Miller's words ... words that undermine the mother of Natalee Holloway ... will provoke a discussion.

Janet

Thank you for explaining Janet.  After reading the transcripts and after the discussions we've already had about Tim Miller in regard to his interview with Steph Watts, I think there's no use rehashing it.  Tim said what he said and it's on record for all to see/hear.  He should explain himself and I think he owes some apologies.  Other than that, to me trying to discuss it is (http://bestsmileys.com/oneofakind/1.gif)  JMHO

Thanks MuffyBee, I was wondering the same.  Why would anyone want to repeat that crap when we've already discussed, cussed, and rediscussed it extensively?  Talk about salt in a wound!  And the manner it was done in just seems like a promotion of it to me.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::   JMO 

Sorry to quote myself, but let me add you are of course free to quote or try to provoke discussion, Janet.    I just wondered why the multiple posts and you explained to me why you did that.  I wouldn't want to rehash it, but others might, so I hope my opinion/comments won't discourage anyone.   ::MonkeyCool::

We were posting at the same time texasmom.  JINX!  I personally don't want to go over that debacle again, but others might.   :smt102   I actually thought at first when I saw the multiple posts in regard to the Steph Watts/Tim Miller transcripts in the discussion thread, they were being posted here in error and were meant to go into the transcript thread and that's why I asked why there were 6 posts and no discussion. 

Thanks from me too.  I wonder the same.
I don't need reminding.  I have read it all over and over again.
It made me ill the first time and it still makes me sick.

Very well stated!   ::MonkeyCool::

It's tired and worn out.

Hi kpg.  I think we are at that place again where we don't have any news or updates on Natalee's case nor on Stephany's.  It's good to try to keep the discussion and the cases alive.  I was searching earlier today for news, but didn't find anything. 

Thank you Klaas.  I was trying to be diplomatic and not attack but I wanted to know why those six posts were here.  They didn't sound all that nice, and as far as wanting to "provoke discussion", all it really did was provoke me. 

Well, maybe there is a better to way to stir up conversation instead of trying to "provoke conversation".  It reminded me of someone hitting a tennis ball against the wall over and over.  Maybe Janet could try to make a (one) post with link and have a little discussion in it and ask what others think or something like that instead of bombarding?  It just hit me wrong, post after post after post, after post, after post and finally the last post.  How does that stir a discussion?  No one wants to be goaded and beaten into discussion.  Wait.  I guess Janet got her discussion, but I don't think it's what she had in mind.  JMHO

Thank you Klaas and MuffyBee!   ::MonkeyKiss::

I'm glad Janet's account wasn't hijacked for heaven's sake, and it was all a misunderstanding.  She was trying to get something going in here and that counts for something.  I would just suggest she go a little easier on us.   ::MonkeyWink::

MuffyBee

The words in the Steph Watts interview were spoken by the man who kept silent regarding his troubling observations while on board the Persistence ... troubling observations encompassing the trap which may have held Natalee Holloway remains.

The words in the Steph Watts' interview were spoken by the man who established an ongoing professional relationship with the Persistence Project Lead ... the Persistence Project Lead who afforded unchallenged the contents of the trap to the Aruban enemy who has prevented justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway since May 30, 2005.

In other words ... Tim Miller became a participant in the furthering of the Aruban coverup.

Any apology to Beth Holloway by Tim Miller must go a lot deeper than his words in the Steph Watt interview.  IMO

Janet

In the famous words of Columbo, "one more thing".  When Janet posted the snippets/quotes from the transcripts texasmom had posted, she included the links, which is correct.  However, Janet inserted titles at the top of the post, and those were of her own making and her own opinion and were not part of the transcripts and that caused confusion imo.  It appeared to be part of the writings in the transcripts and if Janet's posts are/were requoted, it would seem the titles she put in there could become part of the documents and misunderstood.  The transcript should remain entact as it is, and if there are comments, they should be noted as comments or opinions, not as a heading. JMHO When the transcript is broken out and pulled from the body of the transcript, titles (opinions) inserted, it changes things.  JMHO And I'm off my soapbox now. 

Janet, we don't really know some of what you are opining and as I stated earlier, I don't want to rehash. 

I'm speechless. Janet, you have NO idea what Beth knows or doesn't know. NONE of us do. She will ALWAYS get the benefit of doubt from me. I'm so angry -- words fail me.  ::MonkeyMad::

I hope this isn't a repeat, I hadn't seen it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpKP0JnBRbI

http://www.youtube.com/v/zpKP0JnBRbI?fs=1&hl=en_US

I agree 100%!   ::MonkeyCool::

Wreck

I have upheld the mother of Natalee Holloway since the getgo and ... you know it.

What are you referring to?

Janet

Janet - I think the problem is the way your posts, quote of Steph Watts look.  They look like YOU are agreeing with Tim Miller and Steph Watts.  I KNOW YOU DON'T. 

MuffyBee

Each blue bolded title was taken directly from the quote.

Janet

Thank you.

Janet

I'm not alone.......it appears that if we don't all toe the line of YOUR beliefs -- somehow we are all ignorant or uncaring. You are welcome to your own OPINION, but when you couch your posts as FACT - I have a major problem.

Good Night

Janet

That has been questionable at times, and this is another one of those times.  JMHO

Not true.  Viva Aruba is not in the transcript AT ALL.  And IMO MuffyBee's point is still spot on.

Thank you Texasmom for that video clip. Boy, doesn't Beth look good? Maybe it is just me, but she looks like she knows something, or maybe, just seeing Joran in that prison in Peru was what she needed.


(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff15/sueann37/Natalee/777.jpg)

I had the same thought.   ::MonkeyCool::

And I thought she looked and sounded good too!  God bless her!   ::MonkeyAngel::

O/TKlaas.You see the BCS poll? ::MonkeyNoNo::

Edit: So as not to quote O/T - yeah but I actually think that is a good thing.  The Ducks never get any respect but I think not being #1 may help them beat USC on Saturday  ::MonkeyCool::

Well, that's three of us! I thought she was keeping some inside info to herself as well! AND she seemed pleased about it, so maybe there's something good around the corner!!   ::MonkeyDance:: Whatever it might be, she's following the rules about the jail visit and I hope that means that Peter's up to something productive!

She said, "I hope there will be some more information",............ with a little smile. I could be grasping at straws here, but I'm choosing to believe that there's something coming that we can all smile about!

Thanks, TM!!

Missed this but Beth looks fantastic....and a little like the cat that swallowed the canary!!

Me thinks so too.
 ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

45 year old man died on a sofa outside of the house.  If I understand correctly, he was not feeling well and a family member took him to the emergency room, they waited for hours but were not seen even though he was in pain.  They gave up and went back home, where he died.  He was a mechanic that worked on planes. 

(CAUTION:  The man can be seen, dead on the sofa at the link.)

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=5023&offId=0&offDate=2010-10

Papiamentu translation:

6 hora happen | fecha: 25/10/2010 | horario: 08:04

according one acolyte by family bad servicio by emergencia can owing to contribui at fayecimiento by they being keri

the pagina here is contene material grafico or strong besides the do not apto before younger by edad or esnan sensibel

monday morning owing to come into informe by cu at wayaca 3 have one person cu do not give sign by life, at once owing to dirigi one patrol at the sitio. at arrival by the patrol they're constata cu on the sofa pafo by the cas have one person sleep without is give sign by life, at once owing to beat alarma y owing to solicita presencia by all autoridad competente. according one inhabitant by the cas ela depart pafo y owing to look at the victima eynan is cough y was saca scuma the inhabitant owing to bay inside before coy one kopi by kofie y hour ela go back the victima not was breathe more y ela be called police. at arrival by ambulance owing to make a note cu the victima do not give sign by life more y owing to ask before one doctor come at the sitio. familiarnan cu owing to being avisa owing to present at the sitio. one acolyte by family owing to expresa cu the owing to bring the victima before servicio by emergencia at hospital y owing to remain enough hour is keep without attain atencion debido before after at end mande bay cas. neither although owing to ask before hang on to before remark mirando her situation y dolornan cu the victima was complain. but so self dicidi by mande cas before after the victima is fayece unexpectedly. fiscal lugo owing to present at the sitio y at first instant owing to confisca the curpa but after owing to allow this in freedom for her family atende cu the entierro by they being keri. is deal here by richard amircal montero naci at aruba 11 by january 1965. richard was one person quite conosi in ramo by aviacion the was work because mecanico by plane. at famianan by the fayecido is bay we more sincero words by condolencia.

You're welcome, to SuzieQ and CBB!   ::MonkeyCool::

Gosh, I certainly hope so too!!!  ::MonkeyCool::

Good afternoon mom2eloise  ::bananadance:: ::bananadance:: ::bananadance:: and our guests  ::teddybear::

Hi Everyone,

I have a question

Does anyone remember the name of the school/group that did research on Natalee's case, it was some yrs ago iirc. The group attended school in FL I think.

Any help much appreciated

Thanks

OS

Hi Muffy

 :smt006 :smt006 :smt039

OS

Bauder College was one.... http://noevidenceofacrime.com/chapter27.php?blog=47&order=ASC&posts=1&page=1&paged=6

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-06-11/justice/crime.club_1_criminal-justice-natalee-holloway-students?_s=PM:CRIME

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Beth Holloway, Natalee's mother, spoke in person with the crime club earlier this year. She thanked the students for taking another look at her daughter's case.

http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1002/11/ng.01.html

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SHERYL MCCOLLUM, CRIME ANALYST: You know, Nancy, this case is just so aggravating to me. But here`s what I want to make very clear. It`s not just a few police officers that may or may not have gotten some payment. It`s not one judge. It is every single police officer on that island. It is every single judge at this point, and it`s every single DA on that island that won`t bring this case forward. Van Der Sloot has said he sold her in the sex trade. He said he threw her in the ocean. How many times does this person have to confess before something is done?

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OS, the college that I've referenced is in Atlanta.  I remembered this girl especially.

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-08-19/justice/ccc.diving_1_holloway-case-natalee-holloway-field-trip?_s=PM:CRIME

Student dives into Holloway case, finds a career
NATALEE HOLLOWAY 
 
August 19, 2008|By Jennifer Gosdin Special to CNN


http://articles.cnn.com/2008-06-11/justice/ccc.log.gosdin_1_field-trip-natalee-holloway-case?_s=PM:CRIME



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Jennifer Gosdin

Thank you both so much.

OS

You're welcome!   ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/uitzending/de-nieuwe-reeks-afleveringen-begint-op-31-oktober/

New video!  I'll take some screenshots but I don't know how to capture it!   ::MonkeyWaa::


Monday, October 25, 2010, 8:35 hours
Broadcast
New episodes starting this Sunday!

In recent months Peter went all over the world for research in a number of high profile cases. Next Sunday is the first new episode of the series finally on the tube!

Peter visited this the mother of Natalee Holloway in her hometown Alabama. For the first time Beth Holloway tells the shocking story about the extortion by Joran van der Sloot. How a desperate mother cornered by the man who left her daughter disappear ..

Peter R. de Vries, crime reporter, Sunday, October 31 at 21:30 at SBS 6

Last Updated: Monday, October 25, 2010, 13:12 hours

OOps sorry, had to cook dinner.  Texasmom is a wealth of information!  Thanks Texasmom for all the great info!

When will we hear the blankity blank evidence on the laptop?!   ::MonkeyShocked::

Good question!   ::MonkeyCool::

Take care, I'm calling it a night.  I am watching 4 grandbabies under the age of 3, 10 hours a day!  Whew!  I need a glass of wine!

Just a glass?  Here have a bottle...sounds like you need it   ::monkeywine2:: 

Good night Sharon!

Wow, that's a job!   ::monkeywine2::

I'll try and capture it  ::MonkeyCool::
Had to get a little creative but I got it.  Uploading to photobucket now.  Click on the photo below to watch the clip:

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Thanks Klaas!   ::MonkeyDance::

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/uitzending/de-nieuwe-reeks-afleveringen-begint-op-31-oktober/

Here's some screenshots from the video.

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"I'm thinking...If this is the way that I can get her remains, then I'm in..."

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Thanks for the video and screen shots, Klaas and TM!

I wish it were in English!

I ran the print on the 5th picture down through babylon translator and it came up with this:

lk dacht:  als ik zo haar overblijfselen kan krijgen

lk thought: if you will receive its remnants may

Thanks CBB!   ::MonkeyCool::

That translation is what Beth was saying at the time, I'm sure: "If this is the way I can get her remains.......... I'm in."

That interviewer sure wanted to push Beth into talking about Joran.  Beth was very gracious about it, though.

Beth does look great!  No wonder Joran wanted to $h!t a brick when he saw her, with her hair color and her eyebrow pencil, she sure does look like Nat.  Beth has done what no country has done so far, and that is to get under Joran's skin.

Oh wow!  You are so lucky, so tired, but so blessed.  Put your feet up some.

Thanks for answering os's question.  You are right, my sis, TM is da bomb!

 :bom: :bom: :bom: :bom: :bom: :bom: :bom:

I hope it is the 4 legged kind.  So many rats and witches and such around on some sights, ya never know.

O/T

I just wanted to say that the first page of this thread brings tears to my eyes.  All of the moderators (and Klaas) have posts on this page.  2NJ is there in spirit, her neighbors, San and myself are there, and I hold her in my heart.  I could walk to NJ from my house.  (Maybe she will edit one of the posts in the first page just to show the world I really can count!)  I think is must be a one of a kind beginning to a thread.  I hope it means that this is the thread that will bring the news that ushers our girl home.

The second thing, all of us are back together, and posting.  Strong women, I am so proud to be among you.

 ::MonkeyJustice:: ::bee:: ::MonkeyWeight:: ::MonkeyHeart:: :smt024 :smt066 ::MonkeyGavel::

 ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2::

 ::MonkeyCool::

Good morning Sis!   ::MonkeyDance::

Thanks to you and Sharon/Tx for the compliment  ::MonkeyKiss::,
but I think we're all da bomb!   ::rhino::

That is really cool, and I hope you're right Sis!  You are an extraordinary group, so strong talented and compassionate.  I love and appreciate you all!

2NJ can edit one of my posts on the first page if she'd like...I was FIRST which is a rare occasion too!    ::MonkeyAngel::

Have a great day Monkeys!   ::MonkeySkate::

I wasn't around for the thread change because we were attending a cousin's wedding.....a celebration Natalee was denied, a celebration Beth, Dave and Matt will never share with her.  I'm always here in spirit when life brings me elsewhere.   ::monkeywine2::

Good morning to all.

I posted this in the Oil & Gas thread, too.  Last report stated projected restart December or January....

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/valero-swings-to-profit-on-better-refining-margins-2010-10-26?siteid=rss

Valero Energy Corp. /quotes/comstock/13*!vlo/quotes/nls/vlo (VLO 17.79, +0.02, +0.08%) said Tuesday it swung to a third-quarter profit of $292 million, or 51 cents a share, from a loss of $629 million, or $1.12 a share, in the year-ago period. Operating income rose to $571 million, versus an operating loss of $238 million. Income from continuing operations totaled 52 cents a share. Revenue rose to $22.2 billion, from $18.6 billion. The San Antonio, Texas refining giant cited higher margins for diesel and better discounts for low-quality feedstocks, combined with higher volumes. Wall Street analysts expected Valero to earn 50 cents a share, on revenue of $20.8 billion, according to a survey by FactSet Research. Valero said it's on track to re-start its Aruba refinery in mid-December.

And to think he was so very close!  I missed my big chance!


 ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyAngel::

Natalee's Candles

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5700.0

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_80124.php

Google translation:

Bank takes up casino Westin

October 26, 2010, 14:01 (GMT -04:00)

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ORANGE CITY - The Casablanca Casino in the Westin Hotel in Palm Beach yesterday afternoon by order of the bailiff closed. Dozens of employees of the casino are sent home until further notice.

Reportedly, the Aruba Investment Bank (AIB) confiscated the casino because a large payment arrears. The bank had lent money casino slot machines for purchase. This loan was not repaid.

Because the loan was not repaid in full or not, the bank went to court. AIB was here recently by the court was told that they seized, conducted. The AIB bank was unavailable for comment this morning. The Director of the Westin Hotel Richard Roy was not reachable by phone.

Director of Operations, Dan Tanner of the Westin could not comment on the closure of the casino. "Something is going on with the administration, but I can not say more." He emphasized that the casino is operated by the hotel not only by one third. It would be here to see the company go Belfonti Capital Partners, said morning newspaper Bon Dia. The newspaper writes further that the employees of the casino, which has been sent home yesterday, today an interview with Otmar Oduber minster (AVP) for Tourism, Labor and Transportation have. During this conversation, workers will learn about the situation and the steps taken to solve problems. Focus of this is the casino as quickly as possible to reopen and the workers back to work.

Amigoe also know that the casino was for sale for years. Despite several attempts, sales not. In recent months the casino operator could also meet the rent. What about the payment of the casino staff was not very morning Labor Department to find out.

In recent years, various casinos find themselves in difficulty in Aruba. Renewed efforts for example La Cabana Casino again to reactivate and Key Largo by large U.S. investors came to nothing. Key Largo Recently, a new owner who has plans for this casino again. Besides struggling at the nearby Radisson hotel casino with operating problems.

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_79901.php

Google translation:

May I effe "Victim in jail '

October 21, 2010, 13:52 (GMT -04:00)

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Filmmaker and writer René van Nie shows five days a week, from Monday to Friday, this newspaper in his own distinctive vision of all kinds of things in society. He claims reactions to price: vannie@setarnet.aw. Today: 'Victim to jail. "

I thought Andin Bikker, leader of PDR on the carrier of the ASF meezeulde bike as a sort of tolerated game, even though he did not need, because without him the full stamp parliament. But now he has something of themselves heard and collect signatures for the introduction of a law that gives citizens the right to self defense in case of burglary in their home or business. I can not believe what I write.

Imagine a moment of madness, there are signatures for the law might need to get through it, otherwise our leaders see no reason for it. So Andin first half Aruba mobilize the usefulness of that law to stress. First, I find it very Bikker is doing what the other is absurd that even countries - including the Netherlands and Aruba - who punish the victim when they defend their homes while the criminals after a few hours, if caught, again walking around the streets looking for new victims. And I understand not sack the judges who run this insane law.

An old grandfather of 86 years who defended himself against a tall Hells Angels, which was handing out punches and half years' imprisonment was, while the Hells Angels showed the instigator. "How was your day today, Dad?" I hear a child asking her father for dinner. "Oh fine, I'm a father to four months in prison sentenced because he protected his child when he was in broke." "Well baby, I hear it, that was a tough day. Eat your plate is empty now but tasty and not forget vitamin pill, "adds his wife than. "And tomorrow I get a girl of sixteen years at the counter who was assaulted, but her assailant with a piece of wood was able to keep away from him. The man is now a mild concussion in the hospital. I think that I would surely give three months in prison, because that is obviously not what she did. "Well, if my father was right, then I went to a lawyer to try him from custody to continue. Because the judges themselves had long been in the gun as a way to change this disgraceful act. But they do not have to cry, "we must obey the law."

I myself am ever in a somewhat awkward situation ended when a politician and a specialist in my field emerged to give me a spanking, because I had written something bad about them. Now I must stress that their action ultimately I could appreciate it. Not silly walk to court, but simply ff fight, just like other men. I blame them nothing. But I do remember that I was limited to off and have not beaten back, was wrong because I would have ended in jail and not my two assailants. The law is wrong is not any good for the judges and I do not entirely trust. But this case was me. Would it be to protect my children go, then the heaviness in. I live in quite remote knoek at every door and stole a baseball bat standing. And who is a danger to my family, go for the chop. I have easily have half year KIA forward. As long as I can take my laptop with me to a black book on justice and what can go wrong with obtuse to hanging.

O/T but I thought others might remember Paul the octopus, I probably wouldn't have known about him if I hadn't been following this case.  He was in the Aruba news a lot.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/unleashed/2010/10/rip-paul-the-octopus-tentacled-world-cup-prognosticator-passes-away-in-german-aquarium.html

R.I.P. Paul the octopus: Tentacled World Cup prognosticator passes away in German aquarium

October 26, 2010 |  2:45 pm

Paul, the octopus whose correct predictions of the outcomes of eight World Cup 2010 games fueled his meteoric rise to stardom, has died at the ripe old age of 2 1/2.

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Lack of tourism???  I know they deny that tourism is down, but I don't believe a word they say. ::MonkeyJnBox::

I think I will have some calimari tonight!











(I know they are not the same - but close!  ::MonkeyWink:: )

http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/image/id/38946/headline/Beth%20Holloway%20in%20Fargo/

Published October 26 2010
Beth Holloway in Fargo

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Beth Holloway, mother of Natalee Holloway, who disappeared in 2005 while in Aruba, speaks Monday during the 10th Annual United Way of Cass-Clay Women’s Leadership Luncheon at the Ramada Plaza Suites in Fargo. Michael Vosburg / Forum Photo Editor

http://www.jamestownsun.com/event/article/id/121938/group/News/

Published October 26 2010

Holloway speaks at Fargo women’s leadership luncheon
 
By: By Sherri Richards, Forum Communications Co., The Jamestown Sun


Beth Holloway searched Aruban crack houses for her daughter. She considered theories that she was hidden on a cruise ship, sold into slavery or dumped at sea. But all along she had hope, just different phases of hope.

Holloway was the keynote speaker at the 10th annual Women’s Leadership Luncheon, a program of the United Way. About 600 women attended Monday at the Ramada Plaza Suites in Fargo.

Holloway, whose daughter Natalee went missing in May 2005, said it is her life’s work to promote personal and travel safety. She’s established a foundation to provide resources to families of missing persons. She also wrote the book “Loving Natalee.”

“What happened to her can happen to anyone in this room at any time, at any age, in any place,” Holloway said.

In an account she doesn’t sugarcoat, Holloway detailed the morning she dropped Natalee off, the phone call four days later telling her Natalee was missing, and her first days searching in Aruba, as she hoped to find Natalee alive.

After four days, she watched the hotel security tape and realized the prime suspect, Joran Van der Sloot, didn’t return Natalee to the hotel as he claimed.

For the first time, she felt anguish and grief. She said her hope transitioned to finding out what happened to Natalee.

Eventually she got that answer in a confession from Van der Sloot, who said he was with Natalee when she had a seizure and might have died, and he got rid of her body. From the first day, Aruban police asked Holloway if her daughter had a history of seizures.

“When she was least able to defend herself, she was taken,” she said. “I believe she was given a date rape drug, overdosed, and produced those seizures that Joran speaks about.”

Van der Sloot is currently being held in a Peruvian prison for the death of Stephany Flores. Last month, wire fraud charges were brought against him in Alabama. “He claimed he had Natalee’s remains and he tried to sell them to me,” Holloway said.

Holloway said she makes a conscious decision every day to get up and work through her family’s tragedy, to teach others. She said this is her third phase of hope: to move from victim to victor.

Tonya Stende, chairwoman of the Women’s Leadership Council, said because the council’s focus is on children and the United Way’s Success by Six program, Holloway’s story about her own daughter is powerful.

“You can’t replace that mother’s love,” Stende said

Sherri Richards is a reporter

at The Forum of Fargo-

Moorhead, which is owned by Forum Communications Co.

Tags: north dakota, news, women

If I haven't told you all lately, thank you for having common sense as well as being the best sleuths in the world!   ::MonkeyKiss::

O/T

RE: Missing American Vice Consul James Hogan in Curacao

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6197.msg1253055#msg1253055

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Back atcha CBB!   ::MonkeyKiss::

Now I'm wondering what brought that on!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Thanks TM.

I agree   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/23451-2-night-diver-cu-problema-den-awa-awor-aki.html

Papiamentu translation:

two tourist buceador transporta in situation critico before hospital

tuesday, 26 october 2010 19:15

tuesday at night two tourist cu owing to go on the boat mermaid before night dive owing to attain problem earnest in water y at present is at hospita cu situation enough important. still not have mucho claridad on the sucedido. thing can say is cu apparently they owing to come upstairs pura cu consecuencia before they same salud. kizas they owing to see algo cu owing to laydown they spanta y not owing to come upstairs according regulation by buceo. esey is laydown cu thou blood is coy air y thou have to attain tratamento special before one situation so in one tanki comprimi. hour cu the two turistanan here owing to attain problem thanks god they owing to being see at time. owing to succeed beat alarma y aruba ports owing to cordina all cos. tremendo cordinacion by aruba ports owing to laydown also cu in corto time paramediconan by sarfa, guardcosta owing to depart give one hand. owing to cuminsa cu reanimacion. also police owing to being notifica y two ambulance owing to present at platform. at arrival can owing to see cu one by the buceadornan not was reacciona self. the another was open eye but not was comunica. the boat mermaid owing to depart cu cinco diver y one mast alone. the capitan owing to remain in boat. this according esnan cu experiencia in diving is considera because algo one some iresponsable. one mast alone do not sufficient before cinco buceador in water at night. the capitan d encarga cu mermaid have to go splica one bit more on her form by buceo at night before evita ripiticion in future.

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http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=5045&offId=0

Papimentu translation:

5 hora happen | fecha: 26/10/2010 | horario: 19:08

2 diver owing to become quite bad tuesday at night they owing to being bring hospital cu urgencia

tuesday at night owing to come into informe by cu have 2 diver cu owing to become bad y cu they're treciendonan platform by oranjestad y they owing to ask before 2 ambulance at the sitio. is deal here by 2 tourist americano cu owing to bay haci nightdive some pazuid by airport but debi cu they owing to come upstairs mucho liher they owing to become bad. at arrival by ambulance they owing to atende the victimanan y owing to transportanan before hopital. we owing to compronde cu they situation is stabiel.

This may be a repeat, but I didn't remember reading it.

http://photos.state.gov/libraries/curacao/5/2010/WEEKLY_News_090410.pdf

News Items and Public Crime Summary for Week Ending
September 4, 2010

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Antilles/Aruba - NCIS Provides Crime Scene Investigative Training for Law Enforcement Officials

Two Naval Criminal Investigative Service Agents (NCIS) from Mayport, FL provided training to approximately 40 officers from the Curacao and Aruba Police Corps (KPC and KPA), upon invitation of the U.S. Consulate General Curacao, last week. The agents are representatives of the NCIS Major Case Response Team (MCRT). The course was classroom oriented, but also involved practical exercises to employ the skills learned.

The officers developed an understanding of both the role and value of evidence; learned to identify potential evidence and basic evidence collection techniques; learned basic crime scene and evidence documentation techniques; and developed an appreciation for crime scene preservation and contamination issues. NCIS together with KPC and KPA leadership are looking into future evolutions of the same training in order to get more officers exposed to the basic Crime Scene Investigative (CSI) techniques.

The training was very well received and an excellent opportunity to strengthen the strong relationship between the NCIS and law enforcement authorities on the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba. (Amigoe)

http://photos.state.gov/libraries/curacao/5/2010/WEEKLY_News_082810.pdf

Aruba – Tourism Continues to Struggle; Venezuela Main Factor

In June 2010, the total of stay‐over tourists declined by 4.6% compared to the same month last year. Tourism from the U.S. (-2.9%), the Netherlands (-6.4%) and Venezuela (-33.5%) all decreased. The struggling Venezuelan economy and the exchange restrictions continue to affect the Venezuelan market. The total of cruise visitors dropped by 4.7%, compared to the same month last year. (Aruba Central Bank Report)

Having a comparison in other threads.      ::MonkeyDevil2::

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_80158.php

Google translation:

ARUBA
Divers injured
October 27, 2010, 24:34 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - A paramedic was talking to a diver who still has the wetsuit. The ambulance Tuesday night brought two divers rushed to hospital after being in trouble during a night dive were hit. The two divers - tourists - were part of a group of five, along with a dive master had gone under water. When the captain of the boat Mermaid noted that the two divers in trouble had come, hit it with Aruba Ports Authority (APA) alarm. APA warned in turn SARFA lifeguards and the Coast Guard. They were quickly on the spot and immediately began CPR. A diver gave no sign of life and the other had their eyes open, but could not communicate. The police were now on the spot and two ambulances had come. They brought the divers rushed to the emergency room. The captain of the boat is pointed out that according to international PADI diving rules it is irresponsible to just a dive master with five divers to go underwater.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_80160.php

Google translation:

ARUBA

Joran's murder mysteries

October 27, 2010, 12:36 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY / LONDON - The book "Joran's Murder Mysteries" is on sale from today. This book is written by journalist John van den Heuvel and Bert Houses and describes, as they say "the complete story of Joran Sloot" and its role in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway and the killing of Stephany Flores.

The book countless previously unpublished material from secret police files up to date new facts and witness statements. Outline the facts behind the disappearance of Natalie Holloway and the "secret conspiracy behind the murder of Stephanie Flores. The crime journalists take the role of the FBI against the light. The book is further illustrated with exclusive photographs of Joran in the Castro Castro prison. He sits still in custody on suspicion of murder Stephany Flores. The book includes online at Bruna.nl and Bol.com.


http://webshop.telegraaf.nl/1/-/pro-1170982

Google translation:

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Well what should we expect?  They can't even spell Natalee's name correctly, not consistently anyway!  ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1022/Celebs/article/detail/524993/2010/10/27/Beth-Holloway-in-het-nauw-gedreven-door-Joran.dhtml

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Future Hearings

01/06/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Motion for Summary Judgment

01/27/2011 at 08:30 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Final Status Conference (T/D 2-7-2011)

02/07/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Jury Trial (-Final Status Conference-OSC RE: Re Sanctions for Failureof Plntf/Deft Counsel to Appear @FSC)


New docs coming in just a few minutes ::MonkeyCool::

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THEY JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND OUR SYSTEM ::MonkeyCool::

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Klaas, thank you for bringing the documents over!  And as always, many thanks to the generous anonymous monkey that pays for the documents!

Ain't that the truth!   ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyDevil::

Did they include the "attached Memorandum of Points"?

Thanks Klaas.

SO!!! A "Summary Judgement" IS officially filed for!!!!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

There was a 37 page amended document also filed that cost a bit more and I didn't get.  Part I'm assuming pertain to the last doc I posted.  I have to ask if I can order that one too and was going to wait until I can reach them  ::MonkeyCool::

YEP

My guess is they were only waiting on those incriminating depositions.  Once they got those that was "all she wrote"  ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyGavel::

::MonkeyCool::

I noticed that "Summary Judgement" petition was "Served" to the Kalpoes attorneys in Chicago by a "Server" (by overnight mail) from Fort Worth, TX. I find that odd except for the fact Dr. Phil lives in the DFW Metroplex. I wonder why the notice wasn't served from his attorneys in California or hand delivered by a Chicago "server"?

I agree!!!  ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

O.K. I am dense.  Please explain what this all means.  Thanks.

A "Summary Judgement" means that one side is so convinced that the other side cannot win their case that they ask the Judge to rule before it goes to court. It is risky in that the judge could always rule the other way or at least think the other side MIGHT have a case that would need to go to trial. The Plaintiffs in this case would most likely be liable for the Defendents legal costs as well if the judge rules against them.

Thanks

And, I think the Kalpoe attorneys have to prove ALL of the allegations.  Dr. Phil's attorneys can attack
the weakest of the charges.  I think they have chosen to attack the defamation allegations.
Good choice, IMO.  You can't defame someone who has been in the news as a part of the Natalee case
since the beginning and has admitted to being a part of the sexual assault.

Watch out Kalpoes!

Thanks all.  I would say this case is about over with.  No money for the Kalpoes and no money for Aruba.

Since I seem to have halted all conversation about the Kalpoe vs Dr. Phil lawsuit,
I guess I should add that if Dr. Phil's lawyers can show proof that the Kalpoes were
not defamed by the show, then it negates all of the other charges made by the Kalpoes.

Wreck, plese correct me if I am wrong. ::MonkeyJnBox::

I'm trying to find a way to post the entire next 39 page document.  It will help make more sense.

You didn't halt the conversation at all Magnolia!   ::MonkeyCool::

::MonkeyCheer2:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyCheer2::

Thanks Klaas!  Thanks anonymous monkey!   ::MonkeyKiss:: ::monkeywine2::

UNDISPUTED FACTS - 49 PAGES

Will open in a pdf file

http://scaredmonkeys.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/DrPhilAmendedSummaryDoc2.pdf

WARNING  - IN READING THROUGH THERE IS SOME BAD LANGUAGE ATTRIBUTED TO DEEPAK IN CHATS.

I know the watermark makes it hard to go through but since our kind Monkey is paying for them I didn't want to give out stuff for "free" without saying where it came from.

This document pretty much spells out the entire case and all the same reasons why we feel the Kalpoes don't have a case.

Another monkey sent this to me.   ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyKiss::

From 2007

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=752.msg275248#msg275248

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JACKSON WALKER L.L.P. - Attorney for Defendant/Respondent


http://www.jw.com/site/jsp/officeinfo.jsp?office=FTW

Location
777 Main Street
Suite 2100
Fort Worth, Texas 76102
Tel: 817.334.7200
Fax: 817.334.7290

Thanks again Klaas, and our anonymous monkey!   ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyKiss:: ::CowboySmiley::

The document is easier to read if you zoom out to 100%.  When I open it's like 134% or something.  It lays everything out, why there is no defamation, that the analysts that studied the tape claim Deepak says SHE DID (meaning she had sex with all of them).

I'm just about to click the link, but I'm sure the language is no worse than the words I've thought about Deepak!

Wow, Klaas! If we keep this up, SM's going to earn an "R" rating!     ::MonkeyTongue::

http://scaredmonkeys.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/DrPhilAmendedSummaryDoc2.pdf

Page 19


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It is in a legal document filed with the Superior Court of Los Angeles.    ::MonkeyCool::

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it is a good read!  Thanks to Klaas and anonymouse monkey ::MonkeyHaHa::

That Deepak is such a POS.

Did I know this??   ::MonkeyEek::

Not in such detail and I think we were wondering if that is what he was saying.  Remember we had to rely on others to translate.

Yeah, that makes sense. We were thinking that Satish had an incidence prior to Natalee where he had run someone over. Thanks, Klaas!

Translation of the Natalee Holloway Case police report
Kalpoe brothers and Joran van der Sloot accuse each other
DIARIO Aruba
4/20/2006

ORANJESTAD (AAN)

J says to D: Wait until I start saying things about you.
J says to D: Then I want to see if you’re going home.
D says to J: I guarantee you.
J says to D: You don’t think the police are interested to know that Satish hit a girl with the car?

http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2006/04/translation-of-natalee-holloway-case.html

Thanks, Janet. I remember the car tape contents, but the translation didn't seem to be explicit that Natalee was the girl referred to in that segment.

I don't remember a 15 minute interview between Greta and Deepak. It's been a while, I know, but I was just wondering if any of you remember it?

CBB vaguely.  Let me see if I can find anything on it.

OH, remember when Greta interviewed Deepak's mom?  I think it was around that time but I'll look.

Yes, Deepak said "she did" in agreement with what Jamie Skeeters had just said.  If he had said "she didn't" it would have required explanation as it would be contrary to the conversation and the context.  It would have made no sense if he said "didn't" without follow up on that.  I never understood how or why there was controversy about that.

That was my understanding as well, CBB.  That he hit "a girl" and so assumed it was not Natalee since she wasn't named.  Now it seems it was.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Still reading. . . .

Klaas........... I'm sorry! I don't mean to run you ragged! It's OK! If you remember it even vaguely, I'd bet it happened and if there was any significance to it, I'm sure it would be in the collective memory here! Back to reading...........

Well, the lawsuit always was BS. I think it's over. The Kalpoe's don't have a leg to stand on, IMO. I wish that on them literally, BTW.   ::CowboySmiley::

After they lose this case,they better watch their hands.Hands in pockets is never a good thing.Will it be a heart attack,scuba diving accident,suicide by driving off of cliff,drug overdose..Time will tell..Tick_Tock ::MonkeyShocked::

ROFL!! I'm sure it's because I've had a long day at work, but once the thought of K2 without legs became a vision in my brain, I can't quit laughing!! 

They'd be soooooo short!!   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

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2 clocks, one Satish, one for Deepak

I do believe Dr. Phil will be successful with this latest court filing.

JMO but I doubt this suit would have ever been filed had they known that Dr. Phil and CBS would actually fight it.  Or had they known that Joran would strike again and so obviously.

Sitting at a computer, driving a car.......

oops, you did say driving off a cliff.....

::MonkeyHaHa::

Dennis Jacobs will claim The 2PAK brothers were busy watching porn on one of the TV's they have in their car and drove off a cliff,with one hand in the pocket!No?Maybe? ::MonkeyShovel::

Thanks Klaas and anonymous monkey.

Hi KTF!............ I just noticed your signature line. I really love it.

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Good evening CBB.Appreciate that!What one can accomplish without violence is extrordinary.My hope is that behind the efforts of many,we as a group,can help to change history.Even if it is a very small role in the big picture of Justice.Me thinks this collective group is deserving of some VERY good karma..God Bless ::MonkeyAngel::

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They rolled the dice and came up snake eyes........ ::MonkeyShovel::

You tell em KFT! ::MonkeyWink::

Billb.. ::MonkeyDance:: Come out so we can dance... ::MonkeyHaHa::

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They rolled the dice and came up snake eyes........ ::MonkeyShovel::
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FINALLY!!!

FINALLY!!!

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We ain't done yet Agraria... ::MonkeyAngel::

We ain't done yet Agraria... ::MonkeyAngel::
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PLEASE...say it again!! 

I am so weary of the good people being taken down. (Just had to voice that.)

I know that these evils are being exposed in an odd and slow pattern. Not the time frame of justice I was hoping and praying for but miraculous and to the point so far...I see it as having dug their hole even deeper now. Fully earning the life they are going to get...

NOW THAT would be the justice they deserve.

PLEASE...say it again!! 

I am so weary of the good people being taken down. (Just had to voice that.)

I know that these evils are being exposed in an odd and slow pattern. Not the time frame of justice I was hoping and praying for but miraculous and to the point so far...I see it as having dug their hole even deeper now. Fully earning the life they are going to get...

NOW THAT would be the justice they deserve.
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Urine is prison for murdering Stephany Flores,and the USA has three Assistant U.S. attorneys prosecuting the extortion case.That there is some SERIOUS business.Not 1,not 2,but three Assistant U.S. attorneys. ::monkeywine2::

Thank you klaas for posting those documents, and to the mystery monkey who is making it $ possible.

I wonder if we ever will be privy to the exhibits ...

How many times did Joran say it worked?.."Like we have done this 20 times before and nothing bad happened"

That little excerpt just shows you they were getting more and more brazen with every rape victim they set-up!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hi Monkey Family

I hope all is well! I've been a busy monkey moving from one state to another but I NEVER forget about
Our Girl Natalee!  ::MonkeyAngel::

So HAPPY to read what I read when I signed on!  ::MonkeyDance::
I have so much to catch up on so off I go to finish reading!

God BLESS!

pb

God Bless PB! ::MonkeyAngel::

Thank you Klaasend and the Anonymous Monkey that paid for the documents.  I cannot imagine reading what I just read and being Beth or Dave.  Satish and Deepak are lower than scum and I hope Dr. Phil wins!  I hope every day is worse than the day before for Joran, Deepak and Satish.  I hope nothing but misery and bad karma follow them the rest of their lying lives.  It makes me sick to think of all of the girls that they took advantage of.  Shame on you Aruba for covering their lies up.

Thanks to Klaas and the monkey who provides the documents!

I have a question.  If this is summarily dismissed what are the follow-up legal consequences for the Kalpoes? 

Could the Kalpoes be sued?

Will this assist Beth in bringing a civil action against them?

TIA.

-and Good morning Monkeys!

T i c k  t o c k !   T i c k  t o c k !

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Good morning to you Muffy.  Was hoping you would oblige, ty.  ::MonkeyGavel::

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Beth-Holloway-on-Dutch-TV-show-Sunday/l7V9rTC_10mhINQ1nvjMwQ.cspx

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Beth Holloway on Dutch TV show Sunday

Last Update: 3:03 am

Beth Holloway will talk about Joran van der Sloot's attempt to extort money from the family in exchange for information about the death of her daughter Natalee.

It's part of the season kickoff of a crime tv show on Dutch network SBS6 Sunday, October 31.

Beth Holloway and Dutch crime reporter Peter R. DeVries made headlines on three continents when they somehow got Holloway into van der Sloot's prison cell in Peru. She apparently accompanied de Vries TV crew on an interview but was escorted out when prison officials realized who she was.

During that incident van der Sloot refused to answer questions from Beth Holloway referring all questions to his Peruvian lawyer.

According to de Vries website, Sunday's broadcast will include "For the first time Beth Holloway tells the shocking story about the extortion by Joran van der Sloot."

Mountain Brook teenager Natalee Holloway disappeared on a 2005 graduation trip to Aruba. She was last seen in the company of van der Sloot. Although he's considered the prime suspect in the case, he has never been charged by Aruban authorities.

DeVries has followed the case for years and has previously televised hidden camera interviews where van der Sloot has told a variety of stories about Natalee's fate...all of which van der Sloot later denied.

Van der Sloot is currently awaiting trial in Peru for the murder of a 21 year old student. Stephany Flores body was found in his Lima hotel room five years to the day of Natalee's disappearance on Aruba. Van der Sloot confessed to killing her after she found material about Natalee on his laptop. He is appealing to have that confession thrown out claiming coercion and procedural irregularities. That appeal is pending.

Van der Sloot has also been indicted here in Birmingham on federal extortion charges stemming from an alleged attempt to get money from the Holloway family. That charge is stuck in line behind the Peruvian murder charge.

I'm really surprised that there is zero discussion about the Kalpoe suit these days at GM or RU.  I guess they aren't happy that the Kalpoes aren't going to be able to extort money from us (us being Americans and an American program).

Maybe they don't know yet. ::MonkeyDevil::

I suspect that GM is doing all of their discussing at BFN.

BFN are discussing with the aid of SM documents. 

Hey, goon boy finally made a top ten list! It`s not a good one, though. ::MonkeyBike::


To follow is Dr. Glass’s list of “Top 10 Toxic Men of 2010”:



1. Charlie Sheen – The Self-Destructive Gloom-and-Doom Victim

2. Mel Gibson – The Angry Bullying Control Freak

3. Joran Van Der Sloot – The Socio-Psychopath

4. Bernie Madoff – The Emotional Refrigerator

5. John Edwards – The Wishy-Washy Spineless Wimp

6. Jesse James – The Sneaky Passive-Aggressive Silent-but-Deadly Erupting Volcano

7. Tiger Woods – The Seductive Manipulative Cheating Liar

8. Chris Brown – The Jealous Competitor

9. Michael Lohan – The Instigating Backstabbing Meddler

10. Kanye West – The Selfish Me-Myself-and-I Narcissist

sueing the Kalpoes would be a waste of time and money.

I'm extremely confident that you've made sure that Diario,and BonDia have this list Carpe!They must know what Arubas finest has become.. ::MonkeyHaHa::

It would be interesting to see if anyone would represent them at that point!  ::rhino::

Thanks to our generous, anonymous monkey & Klaas.   ::MonkeyRoll::

Keepthefaith and 9 Guests   ::monkeywine2::

Looks like there's a whole band of monkeys running round nekkid.   ::MonkeyEek::  Including me!  ::MonkeyShocked::

::MonkeyDance::

Alrighty then!   ::MonkeyHaHa::   Back to our normal programming after adjusting thing-a-ma-bobs.   ::MonkeyCool::

Peter R. de Vries sold his new two reports [ the meeting Beth and Joran in jail and the extortion case] to CBS. They will broadcast it this weekend. On Sunday.

Correction: They = SBS and CBS.

The Dutch program ' De wereld draait door" showed some shots from Beth Holloway waiting for Joran to enter the room of the managing director [the jailboss]
Hidden cameras plugged into an electric point.

Well, I hope that the spelling meets with Debbie's approval.

The NFI Investigation

As a challenge to the above ... is it possible that the Kalpoes' attorneys would summit the NFI findings to the court as evidence to support the lawsuit's claim that Deepak's words in the Phil McGraw recording were deceptive manipulated or ...

Is it possible that Arlene Ellis Schipper was furthering the Aruban cover up agenda?  In other words ... she lied to the American people on the Rita Cosby Show in regards to the findings of the NFI investigation of the tape.

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'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for December 1
updated 7:37 a.m. PT, Fri., Dec. 2, 2005

ARLENE ELLIS SCHIPPER, ARUBAN STRATEGIC COMM. TASK FORCE: Well, it's not what I think, it is what the Dutch forensic institute thinks and what we have also requested the FBI to confirm, which confirmation we haven't received yet.

However, the NFI had four investigators separately look at these tapes, and they say that the Dr. Phil show tapes were edited for content in the following order. Just before the word “she,” there was a cut. And just after the word “did,” there was a cut. And then they compared it to the CD-ROM that Mr. Skeeters sent the officials, and you have seen that piece, and it says, “No, she didn't.” And he shakes his head while doing—while saying that.

COSBY:  Now, you mentioned, Arlene, that the FBI—we know that they also have the tape.  When do you think you're going to hear back from them?  And do you think that they're going to make their results public?

SCHIPPER:  I hope so, actually.  And you know what?  Because officially, of course, the court-appointed forensic institute is the NFI, the Netherlands.  But for comfort, the authorities here sent it also for your comfort, actually, your American comfort—the authorities also sent it to the FBI with—through an MLAT (ph) procedure, which is a mutual—just mutual legal assistance treaty between our countries.

And they also requested, on recommendation of the NFI, to investigate the hard disk of Mr. Skeeters.  And based on that, he volunteered his hard disk.  So we are waiting already for two weeks on those results.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10295536/

Another monkey sent me this link by email today.   ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyKiss:: 

Maybe this is what they're referring to?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161786,00.html

Heading Home
Thursday, July 07, 2005
By Greta Van Susteren


Late Wednesday night I wrote the blog below because I could not sleep... but minutes ago I was awakened with a call to return to the United States immediately. Obviously the terrorism in London is the reason. I am not sure where I am headed, what city I can get to in the United States, what flights are available, etc., but we are leaving Aruba (that is all I know at this moment.)

Here is the text that I thought would lead the blog today:

Our day yesterday in Aruba (search) started as every day does: We all have breakfast together and decide where to go first, the days are beginning to blur here for us since we spend hours and hours in the car driving around trying to get information. After a full day of driving and trying to get info, we then get ready for our show. Our day often — not always — ends at 11 p.m. when we turn the lights off on our set. (And yes, this is a long schedule but nothing like the schedule of the families of missing children!)


Yesterday we started with a trip to the Van der Sloot (search) home. We yelled from their gate that we were there and asked if we could talk to them. Two young boys came out, looked at us and said, "Oh no!" They left and no one would come out. The two family dogs came out wagging their tails and seemingly happy to see us. They did not bark at us but at one point both took off running at a lizard that crossed the driveway. (Yes, as long as we were there, we fed the monkey in the cage in the neighbor's yard with the food taken from the hotel buffet for that very purpose. The monkey is getting friendlier to us.)

After leaving the Van der Sloot house, we headed to the Kalpoe home a short distance away. The Kalpoe brothers' mother opened the door to our knock and talked to us on the porch for about 90 minutes. She has been very friendly in the past but she did not want us in the house today since both boys are now home and she did not want us to talk to her sons. After much talk, we convinced her to introduce us to Deepak (Satish was still sleeping.) We sat down with Deepak and spoke for about 30 minutes (no cameras.) His mother also sat there with us.

We talked about his interrogation, his detention and briefly about Joran. We hope to go back today and have him talk on camera. He may feel more comfortable with us today now that he has met us.

After leaving the Kalpoe home, we went to the chief prosecutor's office. We were told she was "on break" (I think that meant at lunch) but we are patient so we sat down and waited. We waited for about an hour and she appeared from the parking lot. She spotted me and turned her head away and said, as she turned away, "I have to work." I immediately — and politely — introduced myself and I stuck out my hand to shake hers. She reluctantly shook my hand but I felt like she worried her hand might fall off having touched mine. She then turned and left. Yes, she is busy and yes, she has a big job right now. She clearly did not want to talk to me. That's OK. As an aside, we want information — we do not seek to impede the investigation. I did not get a chance to tell her that. She was gone in a flash.

We then got back in the car and headed to the home of one of the anti-media demonstrators' homes. (Two days ago about 200 Arubans demonstrated in front of the courthouse — showing support for the released Kalpoes and complaining about the media.) We interviewed the gentleman and showed that taped interview on last night's show. As an aside, despite being part of the group demonstrating against us, he was very nice to us and very open to a discussion about the American media and the coverage of Aruban judicial system and Natalee Holloway. I enjoyed talking to him. (Note: His wife also could not have been nicer to us! She kept offering us water, tea, etc.)

After we finished the demonstrator's interview, we got back in the car and raced to an interview with Natalee's mother, Beth. In almost every investigation, the first 24 hours are critical for collecting information, clues, etc., so I wanted to walk Beth through that first 24 hours. I wanted to know what she heard, when, who she talked to, etc. Her memory could contain important clues. We played part of that interview last night and will play more tonight. No one had walked Beth through that 24 hours in great detail so I figured it might be informative. Of course, besides learning the facts, we are also reminded of the great pain this woman suffers.

ROGER SCRUX CLAIMED THAT HE RECEIVED THE SKEETERS TAPE DIRECTLY FROM ARUBA LAW ENFORCEMENT - THEY GAVE EVIDENCE TO A BLOGGER!

http://www.scrux.com/discuss/viewtopic.php?t=118
January 30, 2006

I only know what I have been told. I received the recording directly from the Aruban Police Department. I was told that it is exactly what was provided to the NFI (Netherlands Forensic Institute) and verified as having not been manipulated in any way.

<snipped>

Some people have speculated that I probably got this from a defense attorney or maybe one of the Aruban public relations groups. I did not get a copy from any of those sources. I simply would not have hosted the recording if it had come from anyone other than the proper authority. Receiving this directly from the Aruban Police provided me assurance and confidence that it was exactly what they maintained it to be.

09/10/2008 Miscellaneous-Other (UNOPPOSED APPLICATION FOR COMMISSION TO TAKE
ORAL DEPOSITION OF A NON-PARTY IN FLORIA )
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

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Janet,
I think this may help to explain why the attorney's for Dr. Phil maintain the lawsuit and have stated they will not settle the case. Hope this helps.
ribbit



But in court papers filed Wednesday, attorneys for CBS, McGraw and Kay Skeeters -- widow of Jeremy Skeeters, a private investigator hired by McGraw to interview Deepak Kalpoe -- maintain the brothers are "libel-proof."

They say the brothers' reputations were irreparably stained by prior published accounts of the Holloway case, meaning they cannot claim to have been damaged by the "Dr. Phil" broadcast.
http://origin.dailynews.com/breakingnews/ci_9575645

TWO CELL PHONE EACH
A PDA
5 EMAIL ADDRESS
TWO COMPUTER
http://homepage.mac.com/mcgraw.kalpoe.docs/.Public/kalpoemcgraw/021408D_MTDismiss.pdf
Page 8 of Dr. Phil motion to compel

Ribbit

Janet

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STILL SUSPECTS in Holloway case
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Search for blood in Deepak's car
June 9, 2005
pages 3
writer:Hahn-FBI - Tromp,Ras
source: Technische Opsporings-en Herkenningsdienst
location: Divisie Centrale Recherche/Aruba E. page 32/33

DNA comparison
July 11, 2005
pages 12
writer: Vander Scheer/ Bink
description: DNA comparison- between blood samples and deepaks car seat samples
source: NFI
location: Den Haag, Holland E. page 36

Car seat investigation
August 30, 2005
pages 5-one attachment
writer: Bink
description forensic analysis on car seat of Deepak's car
source: NFI
location: 's Gravenhage, Netherlands E. page 39

From www.curstreet.com Photo Gallery Aruba Part 2, taken July 12, 2005
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WHICH CAR IS THE QUESTION????

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Satish says he's been attending "Penn Foster Online High School"
http://www.pennfostercollege.edu/index.html

CARPE - YOU LEFT OUT THE TWO  LEPRECHAUNS!!!!![/b]

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 The Kalpoe’s were arrested by the ALE. They brought that upon themsleves. It was the 3 suspects who lied to the police and stated they returned Natalee Holloway to the Holiday Inn the night they drove off with her from Carlos ‘n Charlie’s. It was the suspects who lied about the two black security guards and implicated them in a crime where they were arrested. It was the three suspects who continually changed their stories and statements to the police and investigators.
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/07/12/dr-phil-attorneys-use-scared-monkeys-natalee-holloway-posts-as-exhibit-in-court-docs-against-deepak-satish-kalpoes/

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I checked the CBS listings for Sunday...the usual programming and nothing related to this case.  I would think that if there were to be an airing on CBS there would be advertising prior to the show.  Perhaps the SBS airing will be viewed here at a later date. 

 ::monkeywine2::  I'm never too far away.   

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I'm never far away either.    I just don't like keeping too many windows open...  I check in and out of here constantly as I buzz around the forum  ::bee:: 

I looked too, 2NJ.  Couldn't find a thing about it.

Thanks for checking 2NJ & Magnolia.  Hopefully if someone finds the date and time of the airing, we'll get notice. 

Here is a Dutch link. It needs a translation.


http://zappen.blog.nl/sbs-broadcasting/2010/10/28/cbs-koopt-repo-peter-r-de-vries-met-beth-holloway-in-peru

The Insider - CBS

Thank you Jonathan.  I wonder if my droid has a language translation app... ::MonkeyWink::

Ribbit!

In a 2008 statement from the Prosecutor's office the implication was that the Kalpoes were no longer suspects but Joran van der Sloot was.

The family has been aware since early on in 2005 that case files could not be released while the Natalee Holloway investigation was on-going.

John Kelly was aware in September, 2007 that the Kalpoes' attorneys had no intention of affording the McGraw attorneys case documents.

Janet

+++++

Growing Frustration in Aruba
Wednesday, July 06, 2005

GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: I've tried every tactic. I think I've made every policeman, every person working on the case here, you know, mad. But you know, what I have to do as a stepfather to try to get Natalee back.  Well, the way the system works down here, when the case is closed, we will have all that information, and we can release it to the world.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161705,00.html


Holloway Case: New Kalpoe Documents
Friday, September 14, 2007

JOHN KELLY, FAMILY'S ATTORNEY: I believe David Koch (ph), one of the attorneys for the Kalpoes actually signed a declaration at the court indicating that even if the court ordered the documents be turned over, they were not going to turn them over ...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296798,00.html

NEW YORK, NY
WCBS-TV
Monday - Friday 7:00P; Sunday 1:35A

This show is an hour long rag mag type of program.  If there is anything on it regarding Beth & Peter, I doubt it will have much detail. 

Used Google Translator:

Dutch to English translation
CBS buys repo Peter R. de Vries with Beth Holloway in Peru
SBS 6 on Sunday sends the first of two parts of Peter R. Ferris Crime Reporter in Peru from where he and Beth Holloway looks for answers. The station now reports that the CBS program "The Insider The two-part report is purchased.

In the first episode of this diptych Beth Holloway tells for the first time how the extortion in his work is gone, that Joran van der Sloot's wanted to extort $ 250,000.

For that money he promised to designate the place where he had buried remains of Natalee. Beth Holloway Peter provided all emails that Joran wrote to her. These give a shocking picture of the ruthless, calculating way he has the feelings of Natalee's mother played. Beth eventually paid $ 25,000 advance to Joran. At that time, the FBI turned on, which captured everything. Peter also got access to the FBI reports.

In the second episode, broadcast on November 7, we see how Beth and Peter de Castro Castro prison in Lima enters, where Beth under the eye of the camera has a confrontation with Joran van der Sloot. The American press has already visited the headlines of the news reached but images are still not sent out. In Peru, Beth and Peter also had an emotional meeting with the brother of the murdered Stephany Flores.

It is the second time that a report by Peter R. de Vries in the United States by a large network is purchased and sent. ABC did earlier with the notorious hidden camera action with Patrick van der Eem, Peter that an International Emmy award.

Peter: "It is an incredibly special trip with Beth and that has a unique, gripping material delivered. Beth Holloway has over the past six years done nothing in the press, and has never been published anywhere responded. That they then my program does everything explained, while American's transmission time on the pavement layers, is something I'm proud. I'm with Beth over the years a bond of trust and that has resulted in this unique collaboration. CBS also broadcast the documentary that is very beautiful. It has since our return with various parties in the U.S. said, but I'm glad it at The Insider on CBS ended. "

See also:
- Peter R. Ferris opens new season with Beth Holloway
- Tina Nijkamp (SBS): Dal is behind us

I think I was wrong...it's 30 minutes...followed by Entertainment Tonight aka ET.  Maybe they are doing daily clips?   :smt102

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/nieuws/peter-verkoopt-reportage-met-beth-holloway-in-peru-aan-amerikaanse-zender-cbs/

Google translation:

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From what I can tell "The Insider" is similar to or a spin off of Entertainment Tonight.  Not sure how well it will be shown or represented there.  Will be interesting to see.

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/nieuws/het-gewetenloze-spel-van-joran-van-der-sloot/

Google translation:

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Peter%20DeVries/10282010_4.jpg)(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Peter%20DeVries/10282010_5.jpg)(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Peter%20DeVries/10282010_6.jpg)(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Peter%20DeVries/10282010_7.jpg)

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/nieuws/peter-vanavond-in-dwdd/

Google translation:

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http://dewerelddraaitdoor.vara.nl/

Google translation:

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http://dewerelddraaitdoor.vara.nl/Laatste-uitzending.619.0.html

Google translation:

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They have said a couple of times that the show will run almost at the same time in Nl and the US.

I am wondering if CBS is going to run a special on Sunday night.

Peter is going to run it as a two hour/two part documentary.

As usual I am ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

http://dewerelddraaitdoor.vara.nl/

I was able to get to the video of Peter on that show tonight.  Can't understand much of it of course, but I'm still enjoying watching it.   ::MonkeyWink::

I'm taking some screenshots. 

I couldn't make the embed link work, maybe Klaas can work her magic on it.   ::MonkeyDance::

I am with you Magnolia....that's what made me check the listings earlier and post.  If there is a special then it would be following Football and 60 Minutes and preempt the normal broadcasts.

I'm not sure how it's going to work either Magnolia.  I'm hoping one of our Dutch monkeys will give us updates on the show there!  I thought I saw Jo-An here today, maybe she'll fill us in.

There was a clip of Beth, I'm just a few minutes into the video...

This is so sad...poor Beth!  ::MonkeyTears::

The link that comes up on the video doesn't take you directly to Peter's part, I don't know now how I got directly to that part!   ::MonkeyConfused::

The local CBS nightly news just talked about the Peter deVries special to air in Holland on Sunday night,
but said nothing about it's showing in the US

http://dewerelddraaitdoor.vara.nl/

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I'm trying to copy it.

I'm trying to upload a clip from the video to photobucket, if it works I'll post it.  Fingers crossed.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I was able to copy it.  Trying to see if I can upload to photobucket now.  I may have to upload to youtube. 

TM  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Thanks Klaas!   ::MonkeyCool::

Mine may not work!  Photobucket doesn't see things my way sometimes, lol. 

I clipped the part with Beth and some at Castro Castro.

Thanks, Magnolia.

Klaas, at the rate it's progressing, mine may take all night.  I'm only at 11% on a five minute clip.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

So if you get yours uploaded first, go ahead and post it.

The entire tape is too long for photobucket.  I'm uploading to youtube now, the entire thing.

http://www.youtube.com/v/CkFA68DfuK8?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US

Oohh...I am so excited...Thanks Klaas. I have not been able to be around much recently and did not even realize that we would get to see it!

TOO THRILLED !!!!!!!!

 ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4::

Thanks Klaas!   ::MonkeyKiss::

This is just a short clip.  The actual show hasn't happened yet.

I am very happy to see this much Klaas...Thanks!!

Tricia ::MonkeyAngel::

He is a handsome man  ::MonkeyAngel::

Ditto

Yes he is, and even though I can't understand much of what he's saying; I enjoy watching and listening to him.   ::MonkeyCool:: 

Thank you kind Monkey!

 ::MonkeyAngel::

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20437904,00.html

Beth Holloway Felt Compelled to Confront Joran van der Sloot

By Sara Hammel

Friday October 29, 2010 09:30 AM EDT

Beth Holloway, mother of missing American teen Natalee Holloway, says she felt compelled to break into a Peru prison to confront Joran van der Sloot, the man suspected in the case of her daughter's 2005 disappearance.

Holloway describes being in Peru to visit the family of van der Sloot's alleged murder victim Stephany Flores Ramirez, 21, when a Dutch news crew offered her a chance to confront the suspect for the first time.

"You know you can't plan on doing something. That [opportunity] presented itself … and it was something that I felt, 'How could I not do it?' " she tells The Insider in an interview to begin airing Friday. "You know, I've traveled all this way."

Holloway reportedly visited van der Sloot for only five minutes in his Castro Castro prison cell, where the 22-year-old is awaiting trial. Van der Sloot then canceled the meeting because his lawyer was not present. Holloway's goal, she said, was to find closure – in the form of the location of her daughter's remains, to which she believes van der Sloot holds the key.

"I really felt like for me to move on, what I wanted to [do was] recover her remains," she says. "Because I was so heavy into this communication with [van der Sloot] about, you know, that he knows where her remains are."

Holloway recounts the email exchange between her and van der Sloot in the course of an alleged extortion plot, saying that he began emailing her in March with messages indicating "that he was ready, or wanting, to sell me Natalee's remains for $250,000." She says the emails went back and forth for several weeks until she decided to visit Peru.

Natalee Holloway's 24th birthday would have been this week. She was last seen alive with the young Dutchman on the Caribbean resort island of Aruba. He has publicly said several times that he killed Holloway before retracting his confessions.

Beth Holloway still doesn't have answers, and says she is left with only an idea of what happened. "I think that we all know that it was not good, the outcome for Natalee," she says.

"But it's something that you know is so important in a missing person's case is a resolution, whether it's recovery of remains … of course, everyone would love the outcome that they recover a missing loved one alive, but it just doesn't always happen that way. We know that."

That would be believable, because a hand in the pocket while watching porn would be as close to the real thing they ever had, according to Joran anyway.  Driving off the cliff would just add to the feeling of really being there.

 ::MonkeyBike::

 ::MonkeyDevil::

Good morning Bearly  ::teddybear::  I see you're in fine form this a.m.   ::MonkeyJnBox::

Picture one Kalpoe head on each pendulum.

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Just this past week would have been Natalee Holloway's 24th birthday. Now, Natalee's mother Beth Holloway tells "The Insider"'s Chris Jacobs about her emotional journey to the Peruvian prison where she confronted Joran van der Sloot, the man she believes holds secrets of her daughter's disappearance.


"What I really needed when I was coming into Peru… I really felt like for me to move on, what I wanted to [do was] recover her remains because I was so heavy into this communication with [Joran] about, you know, that he knows where her remains are," Beth tells Chris.

Beth says Joran began e-mailing her in March with messages indicating "that he was ready, or wanting, to sell me Natalee's remains for $250,000."

She says the e-mails between her and Joran went back and forth for several weeks until she decided to visit the family of Joran's alleged murder victim, Stephany Flores -- that's when, with the help of a Dutch news crew, she seized her opportunity.

"You know you can't plan on doing something," she says. "That [opportunity] presented itself… and it was something that I felt, 'How could I not do it?' You know, I've traveled all this way."

Joran is being held in Peru's Castro Castro prison on murder charges in the death of Flores. After years of agonizing over what happened to her Natalee, Beth was about to confront the man who might unlock the key to her whereabouts. Just before the confrontation, her thoughts turned to her missing daughter.

"Have you given up hope of ever finding her alive?" Chris asks Beth.

"I think that we all know that it was not good, the outcome for Natalee," Beth says. "But it's something that you know is so important in a missing person's case is a resolution, whether it's recovery of remains… of course, everyone would love the outcome that they recover a missing loved one alive, but it just doesn't always happen that way. We know that."

Watch "The Insider" on TV for more.
 
http://www.theinsider.com/news/3374420_Natalee_Holloway_s_Mother_on_Confronting_Joran_van_der_Sloot

 

Same as The Insider, pretty much.

I wonder if it will start airing tonight or next Friday.  It doesn't come on here until 1:35AM.

I haven't found any air times, as yet.  I was wondering, too.  M-F 7pm, here...and supposedly Sunday at 1:35am...but I've never watched it on Sunday. 

Another round of media attention for the EVIL MONSTER,and the Island of Danger!I don't use that term lightly,as we've seen that Aruba is far from a safe place to travel.. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Found this earlier...doesn't give much info.

http://cbstvd.com/Shows.aspx?showid=12

AIRING THIS WEEK

MONDAY - KATY PERRY BACKSTORY
From gospel singer to pop superstar: The KATY PERRY backstory
KYLE MASSEY & LACEY SCHWIMMER “Dancing” rehearsal
TUESDAY - ROBERT DOWNEY JR. & JAMIE FOXX
“Due Date” interviews with ROBERT DOWNEY JR. & JAMIE FOXX
A look at “BRANDY’S” career
WEDNESDAY - MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE BACKSTORY
From the first “MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE” in 1996 to the third in 2006. A look back.
THURSDAY - PATRICK DEMPSEY
From the back roads of Maine to McDreamy: PATRICK DEMPSEY
FRIDAY - FAVORITE TOP 10’s
“Top 10” scariest movies of all time
“Top 10” fashion looks of the week

I checked my listings and I didn't find "The Insider" on a channel I can view.   ::MonkeyWaa::

http://www.theinsider.com/news/3374426_The_Insider_on_TV_Tonight

Click on the picture for preview of the show:

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Watch "The Insider" on TV tonight for the new interview with the adult film star found in Charlie Sheen's hotel room!

Then, Natalee Holloway's mother comes face-to-face with Joran van der Sloot!

Beth Twitty opens up for the very last time about her daughter's tragedy -- on "The Insider" on TV tonight!

Published 14 hours ago by The Insider

On CBS 42 Birmingham they said that an interview with Beth about her trip to Peru with Peter
will air at 1:00AM tonight.

It is not Peter's documentary that is airing, but just and interview with Beth talking about the
documentary.

I sure they will have it on their web site soon.

I will watch and see what is said at 1:00AM

I should add that it is on The Insider program. ::MonkeyJnBox::

Thanks Magnolia!   ::MonkeyKiss::

TM, why are you running around necked?? ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyEek::

Is my avi not showing up?  I can see it!   ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_80249.php

Google translation:

ARUBA

Beth confronts Joran

October 29, 2010, 14:30 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY / AMSTERDAM - Beth Holloway, the mother of the disappeared in 2005 in Aruba Natalee Holloway, will never give up. She also visited some time back Joran van der Sloot in the Castro Castro prison in Lima, Peru. These are recordings made on that next Sunday during a televised reporting of crime reporter Peter R. de Vries.

The report can be seen on the Dutch channel SBS 6 and the American CBS program on which De Vries are sold. The reporter says that Beth wanted to talk to Joran. The accused would be placed in an interview with the Telegraph reporter John van den Heuvel said, sorry for his actions. She wanted to hear from his own mouth and also see if this time he would tell the truth about the circumstances surrounding the disappearance of Natalee and its role. De Vries, a good contact with Beth said to have helped the mother to arrange an interview with Joran.

Besides the meeting between Beth and Joran in jail, also addressed the extortion story. Joran Holloway's family has tried to extort. Against payment of $ 250,000, he would tell the truth and the location of her remains revealed. After a deposit of $ 25,000 but he went away. He eventually came to Peru and was on 3 June this year was arrested on suspicion of murder Stephany Flores. Since then he is in custody in the Castro Castro prison pending his trial. Moreover, he remains the prime suspect in the disappearance of Natalee and suspend it in the U.S. trial for extortion and fraud overhead.

Just a red X.   I thought it was because it was Friday!! ::MonkeyDevil::

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_80248.php

Google translation:

ARUBA
Radisson casino operator to Occidental
October 29, 2010, 14:29 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - Casino operator TRG, the same operator until early December is the casino of the Radisson hotel manages the new operator of the casino of the Occidental Hotel. This confirmed Minister Otmar Oduber (AVP) of Tourism, Labor and Transportation this morning from Miami Daily Herald.

The casino of the Occidental Hotel is under renovation. TRG puts $ 3,600,000 in this renovation. The minister emphasized earlier this week that all employees of the Occidental Hotel reopened in December after their old job back given. TRG starts at the beginning of that month as an operator of casino Radisson. Then takes over the casino site. The Westin hotel took a similar decision this week after the court has enforced the contract with the operator of the Casablanca Casino is lifted. All employees remain employed there. "I was told by the two hotels that the intention is that they run the casinos until they find suitable acquisition candidates," said Minister Oduber.

TRG would have had disagreements with Radisson, then the contract on December 1 has been canceled. Partners within the group would now dispute and therefore was briefly yesterday seized on the Casino. On behalf of Minister Oduber, currently in Miami sits for talks including American Airlines, Carnival Cruises and the Office of Aruba Tourism Authority (ATA), took land agent Julio Quijada pulse height casino Radisson to find out the status of the workers were . The batter was already in the early evening again lifted. Radisson in December when the casino will take over 80 percent of them can retain their jobs.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  I don't know why it's doing that!  I haven't changed anything.

I just heard that a Beth interview will be on Entertainment Tonight on Monday....also a CBS show.


(TM, you are fully clothed now)

2NJ or someone was having problems earlier today with some of the avi's too. Maybe it has to do with ISP's or something, I don't know.  I haven't had any  problems.

August 23- 25 2010 - KALPOE DEPOSITIONS

September 16, 2010 - Beth in Peru with Peter deVries, visits Joran at Castro Castro prison.



(http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1614/bethatcastrocastro09162.jpg)

It's those leprechauns that Kermit was talking about, I'll bet.  ::ElfMonkey::
Or maybe a Halloween witch. ::MonkeyWitch1::

Just long enough for Peter to get the trip all put together.

Kermit

This photo is a keeper!!

Do you know where the depositions took place?  I could be wrong but .... the recent Dr. Phil document makes me think that maybe the Kalpoes did not come to the States.  I will have to look again but ... there was something about videotaping.

Janet

According to the documents we have seen, the Kalpoes were deposed at Long Beach, California
on August 23, 2010.

Thanks

I must have missed the document pertaining to the location of the depositions.

Janet

Thanks Magnolia, I know Entertainment Tonight is on my CBS affiliate!    ::MonkeySkate::

(Relief!   ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyDevil::)

ANOTHER FACE TO FACE

ORANJESTAD, Aruba, Aug. 9, 2005
Natalee's Mom: She Was Assaulted
Confronts Ex-Detainee; Insists He Tell What He Knows About Case

(CBS)  Beth Holloway Twitty went face-to-face Monday with a man who'd been detained briefly in the disappearance of daughter Natalee Holloway in Aruba, and challenged him to tell what he knows about the case.

In telling of the tense encounter, she asserted Natalee was sexually assaulted before she vanished.

Twitty says she was tipped by a member of the media that Deepak Kalpoe was working at a local Internet café, and wasted no time confronting him Monday.

Kalpoe, 21, and brother Satish Kalpoe, 18, were among the last three people spotted in public with Natalee before the Alabama teen disappeared in the early hours of May 30 on the final night of a high school graduation trip to the island.

The third person, Dutch teen Joran van der Sloot, is the only suspect still being held in connection with Natalee's disappearance. Both Kalpoe brothers were kept in custody for a short time early in the investigation.

Twitty has said the Kalpoes know more than they're telling investigators.

Twitty described her close-up with Deepak to CBS News:

"There were customers on the computer and he was seated behind the cash register, and I guess he thought he was going to have a normal day at work.

"I wanted to ask him, Joran had admitted sexual assaults that he had committed against Natalee, and I wanted to ask Deepak: Did he participate, or did he try to help her?

"He couldn't answer me. He could only look down at the ground."

"(I told him) you've got an opportunity. I'm Natalee's mother. I'm standing right here before you. You need to tell me.

"I saw his eyelids pretty much the whole time that I was there, and I would have to tell him to hold your head up and look at me when I'm speaking with you.

"He couldn't do that. He would either not respond or he would just tell me that his lawyer had advised him not to speak with me.

"I expected him, if he had no involvement, if he was not a participant in the sexual acts committed against my daughter, that yes, he could have come forward and said, 'No,' and looked me in the eye. He couldn't do that.

"I let him know, under no circumstances, that there is nothing that I'm going to refrain from asking, and I'm going to ask every question, and I'm going to stop at nothing, and I will continue to.

"And he said, 'The media hasn't seen this side of you.' And I said, I've been saving it for you, Deepak.

"I'm always going to hold out hope, no matter how bad it looks. You can't prepare yourself for that, and I don't have to."

Twitty also says she believes there was a level of ineptitude on the part of Aruban authorities, but she's more optimistic, now that a group of investigators from Holland has become involved.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/09/earlyshow/main766023.shtml?tag=contentMain;contentBody

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/09/earlyshow/main766023_page2.shtml?tag=contentMain;contentBody

I hope Magnolia didn't go to sleep waiting...tapping toe... ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyDevil::

Here I am....it was short, but touching.

The Insider 1:00 AM Saturday morning

Beth Holloway  interview...

Just this past week was Natalee's 24th birthday , how did you handle that?

Beth said that she celebrated with some of Natalee's friends.

She traveled to Peru to try to recover Natalee's remains, because she is sure that Joran knows
where Natalee is.
Joran had  repeatedly emailed that he knew where Natalee was buried and was willing
to sell the remains to Beth for $250,000.
Beth felt that she needed to confront Joran and ask again where Natalee is.
Beth said that she will never be content until she knows where her daughter is,
and when the opportunity presented itself, she couldn't decline the invitation.

She will never give up until she has her child back on American soil.

Thank you Magnolia!   ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyDance::

I wish I could have seen it too!   ::MonkeyWaa::

God bless Beth, I couldn't and wouldn't give up either!   ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks, Magnolia.

I couldn't find a video of the interview online but did find this....

Natalee Holloway's Mom Talks About Confronting Suspect
Updated: 22 hours 38 minutes ago

AOL News (Oct. 29) -- The mother of missing American teenager Natalee Holloway says she was hoping to recover her daughter's remains when she traveled to Peru last month to confront Joran van der Sloot, CBS' "The Insider" reports.

"I really felt like for me to move on, what I wanted to [do was] recover her remains because I was so heavy into this communication with [Joran] about, you know, that he knows where her remains are," Natalee's mom, Beth Twitty, said in an exclusive interview with "The Insider's" Chris Jacobs scheduled to air tonight.

Van der Sloot, 22, is being held at Castro Castro Prison in Peru on charges that he murdered 21-year-old Stephany Flores in his Lima hotel room in May. The Dutchman is also the prime suspect in Holloway's disappearance. She vanished in 2005 during a high school graduation trip to the tropical island of Aruba, and her body has never been found.

Twitty traveled to Peru in mid-September and met with a Dutch documentary filmmaker who's investigating her daughter's disappearance. While there, the two sneaked into Castro Castro Prison and made their way to van der Sloot's prison cell. Twitty was able to briefly confront the Dutchman before prison officials realized what was going on and removed her from the premises.

"You know you can't plan on doing something," Twitty told "The Insider." "That [opportunity] presented itself ... and it was something that I felt, how could I not do it? You know, I've traveled all this way."

Twitty says she was prompted to travel to Peru by e-mails she had exchanged with van der Sloot in March, in which he allegedly indicated he would provide her with the location of Natalee's remains for $250,000.

In June, federal authorities in Alabama charged van der Sloot with extortion and wire fraud for the alleged overture. The complaint alleges that van der Sloot agreed to provide not only the location of Holloway's body but also information about the "circumstances of her death" upon receipt of the money.

The information that van der Sloot provided was false, federal authorities said.


Despite the extortion case, it could be some time before van der Sloot is brought to Alabama to face the charges. He remains behind bars in Peru on charges of first-degree murder and robbery in the Flores case and is waiting for a ruling on a motion filed by his lawyers that he is being held unlawfully.

If convicted of Flores' murder, van der Sloot could face 15 to 35 years in prison.

When asked by Jacobs if she has given up hope of finding her daughter alive, Twitty replied:

"I think that we all know that it was not good, the outcome for Natalee," Twitty said. "But it's something that you know is so important in a missing person's case is a resolution, whether it's recovery of remains ... of course, everyone would love the outcome that they recover a missing loved one alive, but it just doesn't always happen that way. We know that."

http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/natalee-holloways-mom-talks-about-confronting-suspect/19694925

Thanks Leroy  ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks Magnolia and everyone who has posted information.  It wasn't on in Huntsville yet so I will keep looking for it.

Beth looks wonderful!  I am so glad she had the courage to go all the way to Peru and confront Joran when his own mother wouldn't show up.  She is truly grace under fire.

BTW, I am usually in the rafters but don't sign in unless I am going to post, lol.  Lots of us are still here every day supporting Beth and for Justice for Natalee.  We will never give up!

::MonkeyDance::

Not sure if the accused in this case has the same first name as has been mentioned, but it caught my eye.

http://www.24ora.com/corte-mainmenu-29/23590-hues-a-condena-atracadornan-di-kentucky-fried-chicken-santa-cruz.html

Papiamentu translation:

judge owing to condena atracadornan by kentucky fried chicken santa cruz

friday, 29 october 2010 21:26

the acusadonan j.j. curet, m.a. ridderstap y l.r. webb today diabierna owing to remain condena before they rol in the atraco cometi at kentucky fried chicken at sta. cruz. one mature cu did take luga the year here at end by march. thing the atracadornan owing to bay cu ne was 3800 guilder y cu aid by informacion attain by one trahado on the procedura before cu maneho by coin. ministerio publico owing to ask before ridderstap the same cantidad by day cu past owing to happen close come to anend, esta 86 day by gaol. contra curet owing to ask two year by gaol y contra webb also 2 year already cu past owing to employ informacion cu the had because employee before comete the atraco. corte owing to bay by acuerdo cu the castigonan..



http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8103.msg1158166#msg1158166
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5922.1480
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8546.msg1233315#msg1233315


(Lorenzo Webb)

Klaas's recent youtube of Peter R. DeVries being interviewed is featured on this page!  And many others she's done about the case are easily accessible at the top of the page.

 ::MonkeyCool::


http://actualeurope.info/sport/video.CkFA68DfuK8.media

From the comments:





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This is old news, but I didn't remember it being mentioned.  Sorry if it's a repeat!

http://www.mountaineagle.com/view/full_story/9776770/article-Holloway-to-speak-at-Jasper-BPW-banquet?instance=homethirdleft

Holloway to speak at Jasper BPW banquet

by Jennifer Cohron
24 days ago | 587 views |  | 2  |  |

Beth Holloway, mother of missing Mountain Brook teen Natalee Holloway, is the guest speaker for the Jasper Business and Professional Women's Organization awards banquet on Tuesday, Oct. 19.

Tickets are $40 for the event, which will be held at the CHS Building in downtown Jasper.

Club vice president Evelyn Jackson said she expects Holloway's message, "A Life of Hope," to appeal to children as well as parents and guardians.

"Beth Holloway's plight serves as a testament of dedication, hope and faith especially during bleak and harrowing times.

Her experiences in the aftermath of her daughter's disappearance have established a template that others can follow to prevent similar occurrences," Jackson said.

Natalee Holloway disappeared during a graduation trip to Aruba in 2005. Beth Holloway has written a book, "Loving Natalee," about her search for her daughter.

Jasper BPW, founded in 1928, is the oldest women's organization in Jasper.

It is currently the second largest BPW in Alabama.

In addition to being a social and professional network for local businesswomen, the club also provides scholarships to local female high school students who are pursuing higher education.

Jackson said Holloway's apperance at the banquet has created great excitement within the club.

"Every one of us can empathize with her quest and admire her for her unrelenting tenacity. Jasper BPW applauds her on demonstrating the difference one woman can make through faith and hope," Jackson said.


Read more: Daily Mountain Eagle - Holloway to speak at Jasper BPW banquet

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This pic is from July 2010 in the Hollywood Bar, Neely Cosentino is beside Anita, on the right.  Tina Escobedo is second to the left of Anita...and Marlene Nichols (Purcell) behind Tina.

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Just a reminder to those "ladies of the evening", in case they missed it in THEIR LOCAL NEWSPAPER!   ::MonkeyWink::

http://www.diario.aw/2010/09/joran-por-fabor-basha-abao-pa-caba/

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Thanks TM  ::MonkeyCool::

O/T Klaas you have nanners

English version:

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_80274.php

Beth confronts Joran

29 Okt, 2010, 12:16 (GMT -04:00)

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ORANJESTAD/HILVERSUM — Beth Holloway, the mother of Natalee Holloway who disappeared on Aruba in 2005, will never give up. That’s why she visited Joran van der Sloot in the Castro Castro prison in Lima, Peru a while ago. This visit was filmed and will be broadcasted on television this Sunday during a report of crime reporter Peter R. de Vries.

The reportage can be seen on the Dutch channel SBS6 and the American channel CBS to whom De Vries sold his program. The reporter says that Beth wanted to speak with Joran. In an interview with the Telegraaf reporter, John van den Heuvel the suspect had namely said he regretted his actions. She wanted to hear this from his own mouth and what’s more wanted to see whether he would tell the truth this time on the circumstances around the disappearance of Natalee and his role in that. De Vries, who says he has a good contact with Beth, had helped the mother in arranging the conversation with Joran.

Besides the meeting between Beth and Joran in the prison, the reportage also elaborates on the extortion story. Joran had tried to blackmail the Holloway family. He was going to tell the truth and reveal the location of her remains against payment of 250,000 dollars. However, after a down payment of 25,000 dollars he absconded. He eventually ended up in Peru and arrested there on June 3rd last on suspicion of murdering Stephany Flores. He’s been on remand in the Castro Castro prison since then in anticipation of his trial. Furthermore, he is still main suspect in the disappearance case of Natalee and has a process hanging over his head in the United States due to extortion and fraud.

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_80251.php

Google translation:

Collective weapons permit expires

October 29, 2010, 14:32 (GMT -04:00)

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ORANGE CITY - Owners of a firearm, which they have a collective license shall, as from 1 January 2011 in possession of a new personal license. All corporate permits expire on that date. The possession of an unlicensed firearm Justice is also considered a "serious crime".

This is the result of strengthened policies for firearms recently by Minister of Justice Arthur Dower (AVP) has been approved. "Anyone who possesses a firearm, must by January 1 for a personal license," said Attorney General Rob Pietersz. The new license is twofold and is used under the Arms Regulation and the Firearms Regulation issued as late as the Public Prosecutor (OM) know. This prosecutor wants to get a better grip on the people who get a firearms license. Currently, people have a personal firearm, which means a collective license of a registered gun club. The new policy, Justice this construction impossible.

The new licenses are stringent conditions. The personal license, both members and non-members of a shooting club, will be granted annually and must be requested before each October 1. The license shall be refused if the applicant is not a member of a shooting, a criminal record, an offense or no positive psychiatric evaluation can produce. Self-defense or self from home, business or family, is not a valid reason for applying for a firearms license. On the personal authorization conditions attached to the location and movement of the firearm. Thus, the holder has a gun safe in his home available, especially for the storage of firearms and ammunition. Firearms and ammunition may only act on the practice of shooting and on the route between this place and the gun safe at home. Persons who violate these conditions hold, risk losing their license.

The rifle will have to take more stringent requirements, thus the OM. These conditions include, for example, the management of the organization, the shoots turn register the weapons and the association rules. The shooting is therefore no power to individual members for possession of weapons. The permit for a rifle must be renewed every two years.

Illegal firearms
The tightening of firearm policy has long been a concern for justice. Originally, the plan to June 1 of this year's new licensing policies to take effect. Late last year the OM held a fundraiser of illegal firearms and ammunition. When the action got those firearms or ammunition in their possession without a valid permit, to voluntarily hand them over to the police station in Oranjestad. After this action is to go though stricter action against illegal possession of weapons. In principle, any person who caught this until their case comes to court, detained. Moreover, illegal possession of firearms soon an imprisonment of one year or longer yield, thus the OM based on case law in recent years.

International Travel Tips

1. Communication

Before you leave the country, activate international calling on your cell phone. And be sure you know how to make an international phone call. The area code to the U.S. is 001, followed by the area code and number you are calling. Always carry your cell on your person, not in a purse or a briefcase ...

www.internationalsafetravelsfoundation.org
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The undermining of the integrity of Beth and Jug was an intregal part of the Aruban misinformation campaign WHICH was established early on to distance Joran from implication in the events that encompassing the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

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Disappearance
Missing White Female
by Bryan Burrough
January 2006

Gerold Dompig:

"We have taken two statements, from Julia Renfro and a Holiday Inn worker, that Beth told them she had gotten a call from her daughter, and that she was in love with a tall, blue-eyed Dutch teenager. So [Beth] had contact with her daughter. But she denies it. The question is why. If [the Twittys] don't level with us, how can they talk about a conspiracy? We need to know the truth. Joran did not have blue eyes. So who was this boy?" Beth denies making any such statements, or even having talked with Natalee while she was in Aruba.

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2006/01/natalee200601?currentPage=6


'The Abrams Report' for April 19
updated 4/20/2006 10:28:41 AM ET

DAN ABRAMS, HOST:  Beth, any truth to this, I don't know if it's rumor or report, et cetera, that Natalee had said something to you about having a crush on a blonde haired, blue eyed boy in Aruba? 

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER::  Dan, there's just—there's no truth to that at all.  You know Natalee had not called me.  She didn't have international calling on her phone and no she never—her friends said that this never happened, it was never mentioned.  And just simply it's just another rumor that had started and it's just not true, Dan.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12405242/


Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway

Page 31:  Clutching both portraits, Jug and I drive to the private hangar at the far side of the Birmingham airport.  On the way I contact Cingular Wireless and have international calling activated on my cell.  I ACTIVATE NATALEE'S TOO.  If she has hers with her, she can call me now.  If she had had international calling last night, she could have called someone for help.  Why didn't we do this before she left?  I feel such regret.

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/23620-turista-herida-den-camber-di-hotel.html

Papiamentu translation:

tourist injury in camber by hotel

saturday, 30 october 2010 19:07

personal by divi phoenix hotel owing to beat alarma before one tourist throw at floor in her camber all at blood y cu do not give sign by life. owing to resulta cu the tourist female by 77 year owing to slip cay in camber, injury her self very pisa, lose enough blood, but owing to mantene conocemento. at instant cu autoridadnan policial by strand politie owing to arrive in camber 1202 by divi phoenix hotel, at once they owing to ask before asistencia by ambulance. una times at the sitio, paramediconan owing to deal the pashent in camber self, pendiente before transporte before hospitaal before ricibi more tratamento medico. kico owing to sosode cu the lady here owing to cay y injury her self, do not conoci, although cu autoridadnan owing to constata cu the lady was below ; influencia by alcohol.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

They don't know why she fell and hurt herself, so she must have been drunk!  For all we know somebody was robbing her room when she went back in unexpectedly and they knocked her in the head!  Just sayin'!

Another pedestrian hit by a drunk driver.

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/23621-chauffeur-burachi-a-alcansa-peaton-na-meiveld.html

chauffeur sober owing to alcansa peaton at meiveld

saturday, 30 october 2010 19:36

one man cu was crusando caminda fast 7-11 bar not owing to hang on to cuenta cu trafico on the caminda by meiveld. the car nissan sentra color blanco by number a-38405 maneha before one chauffeur sober owing to alcansa the peaton. the car was biniendo for by meiveld direccion rotonde by dakota hour cu he cu just be willing to owing to bay cruza caminda fast the bar owing to bay cay on hood by the car y strike in the windshield by the car. cu ambulance have to owing to transporte before hospitaal before ricibi tratamento medico. the was complain by quite dolor at several part by her curpa. polisnan at once owing to allow the chaffeur by the car nissan sentra blow before controla if the was below ; influencia by alcohol. ley is say cu one chauffeur can blow till cu one maximo by 400 on the apparatus before measure the cantidad by alcohol in thou breath. but the chauffeur encuestion owing to blow in the engine y past owing to mark 703! for her motibo here, police owing to detene the chauffeur at once y owing to transport'e before keep by police at north for her bay descansa her curpa. the will have to bird responsible at present for her desgracia cu past owing to cause, where one peaton owing to resulta injury. kizas if the not was below ; influencia the will can owing to reacciona at time before evita the impacto.

They must use a different breathalizer than we do. In VA anyone blowing anything over .08 is considered drunk.

http://www.hartvannederland.nl/nederland/noord-holland/2010/peter-r.-filmt-joran-in-castro-castro/

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBE858DcES4

http://www.youtube.com/v/xBE858DcES4?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US

Speaking of Halloween witches...
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oh geeeezeeeeeeeee  ::MonkeyHaHa::

::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Drug bust in Aruba - 3 guess who this official is who's identity they are hiding  ::MonkeyDevil::

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http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/23644-tres-cas-bishita-di-ladronnan-deteni.html

I find myself looking at every silver car in Aruba and checking the license plate.  One day I'll see it ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/23639-chofer-a-pega-sonjo-y-dal-den-palo-di-luz-na-moko.html

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Flash back to 2005

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IMO more people probably would have trouble identifying his face, than his body.

::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyDevil::

http://www.sbs6.nl/

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9:30 p.m.   
Peter R. de Vries, crime reporter
Peter R. Ferris examines specific crimes on new facts and insights. Never unexplained murders and other crimes enigmatic reconstructed on site.



I think that's 3:30pm my time?

I hope one of our Dutch monkeys will come by and tell us about the show!   ::MonkeyDance::

That's an interesting cage.   ::MonkeyEek::

Good catch Buckeye, I hadn't even noticed that.   ::MonkeyEek::

De Vries met ‘het gewetenloze spel van Joran van der Sloot’...

Het nieuwe seizoen van Peter R. de Vries Misdaadverslaggever wordt niet stilletjes geopend Opnieuw heeft de journalist een spraakmakende(tweedelige) aflevering gemaak over de verdwijning van Natalee Holloway, het vermeende aandeel van Joran van der Sloot hierin en het verhaal van moeder Beth Holloway, die ook nog eens het slachtoffer is geworden van afpersing. Met name die laatste actie staat centraal in dit tweeluik, dat al is verkocht aan de Amerikaanse zender CBS. Peter R. de Vries jaagt de aflevering aan als ‘het gewetenloze spel van.

De misdaadverslaggever op zijn website: “Vanavond vertelt Beth Holloway in ons programma voor het eerst hoe de keiharde afpersing door Joran van der Sloot in zijn werk is gegaan, waarbij hij haar 250.000 dollar afhandig probeerde te maken. In ruil daarvoor beloofde hij de plek aan te wijzen waar hij Natalee zou hebben begraven. Beth verstrekte ons programma alle e- mails die Joran aan haar schreef. Deze geven een schokkend beeld van de nietsontziende, berekenende wijze waarop hij met de gevoelens van Natalee’s radeloze moeder speelde. Peter zocht Beth op in haar woonplaats Birmingham in de Amerikaanse staat Alabama.

Hij vervolgt: “In het tweede deel, dat zondag 7 november wordt uitgezonden is te zien hoe Peter en Beth in het Zuid-Amerikaanse Peru een emotionele ontmoeting hebben met de broer van de vermoorde Stephany Flores. En na vijf jaar van ellende en onzekerheid, heeft Beth in de Castro Castro gevangenis in Lima voor het oog van onze camera’s ook een confrontatie met de man die haar leven heeft verwoest zal ontmoeten? En hoe reageert Joran op deze onverwachte confrontatie?”

Peter R. de Vries Misdaadverslaggever, 21.30 uur, SBS 6.

http://zappen.blog.nl/sbs-broadcasting/2010/10/31/de-vries-met-het-gewetenloze-spel-van-joran-van-der-sloot

Google Translation

De Vries' the ruthless game of Joran van der Sloot"

The new season of Peter R Ferris Crime Reporter is not silently opened. Once again, a journalist known (part two) episode about the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, the alleged share of Joran van der Sloot and the story of this mother, Beth Holloway, who also once the victim of extortion. story of this mother, Beth Holloway, who also once the victim of extortion. Particularly the latter action is central to this diptych which has been sold to U.S. network CBS. Peter R. Ferris chases the episode as "the ruthless game of Joran van der Sloot.

The crime reporter at his website : "Tonight tells Beth on our program for the first time how hard extortion by Joran van der Sloot in his work is gone, and he's trying to extort $ 250,000. In return he promised to designate the place where he would have buried Natalee. Beth provided our program all e-mails way he has the feelings of Natalee's distraught mother played. Peter Beth looked at her home in Birmingham in the U.S. state of Alabama. "

He continues: "In the second part, which is broadcast Sunday, November 7 we see how Peter and Beth in the South American Peru an emotional meeting with the brother of the murdered Stephany Flores. And after five years of misery and uncertainty, Beth in the Castro Castro prison in Lima in front of our cameras is also a confrontation with Joran. Beth was her nerves to keep them after five years now the man who ruined her life will meet? And how does this unexpected confrontation Joran? "

Peter R. Ferris Crime Reporter, 21.30 hours, SBS 6

Hey everyone!
The Peter R de Vries show starts in about 35 mins.
There were reports that CBS would broadcast it more or less simultaneously.
Is this true? I've been browsing through the last few pages here, but couldn't really see any solid confirmation.
Otherwise I'll try and write some sort of summary here.

Hi, Jo-An,
We haven't been able to find any information about a CBS broadcast. We have only seen an interview
with Beth.
We would appreciate any summary that you can pass along.  Thanks

I would really appreciate your summary Jo-An!  Thanks for checking in!   ::MonkeyCool::

Joran van der Sloot would have taken the initiative to ask for money to the mother of Natalee Holloway in exchange for the location of Natalee's body.
© AFP

This is in contrast to what Joran claimed in an interview with the Guardian where he says that just offered him money.

This shows that e-mails of Joran's mother Nathalie Holloway Sunday showed crime in the program by Peter R. de Vries.

The relevant Telegraph interview with John Joran van den Heuvel says that "her parents offered to pay for the location of the girl." In the episode of Peter R. Ferris is clear that Van der Sloot was the first mail.

'Just imagine'

On March 28, 2010 he asked by U.S. investigative reporter Greta Van Susteren 'something' to ask the lawyer for Beth Holloway, the mother of Natalie. He then let the lawyer know that he want in exchange for $ 250,000 where Natalie is buried.

"This is a painful situation for everyone, so I tell the truth," said Van der Sloot in his e-mail. His requirement is that everything must remain secret. He wants to see all this down in a contract.

http://www.nu.nl/binnenland/2368379/van-sloot-nam-initiatief-afpersing.html

So, here's the summary:

Peter R de Vries – Sunday, October 31st 2010.
Elaborate introduction, concentrating on Joran’s gambling addictio, hunger for money and pathological lying.
After his dad died, he more or less faked he was mourning his father’s dad and his mother was trying to get him admitted to a mental institution. But Joran had actually already started blackmailing Beth.

Peter arriving at Beth’s house.
Joran said in the John van den Heuvel interview that Beth was the one who contacted him first, but emails clearly show that Joran was the one who initiated the blackmailing.

Joran tried blackmailing Beth for $250,000.
It started mid to late March. Joran was looking for money. He wanted to lead Beth to Natalee’s remains. He said he wanted to get this “monkey off his back”.
Joran sent the first email under the alias JP Sanders to Greta van Susteren, asking for Beth’s lawyer’s email address.
John Kelly then sent an email back to Joran.
March 30th Joran sends John Kelly an email that he wants to do some good, he will lead them to Natalee’s remains. He asked for $250K.
Beth says: “If this is the way I can get her remains, then I’m in.”
Everyone’s flabbergasted but John Kelly sends an emai back that his client is interested and asking what kind of info he has.
Joran sends back: I never hurt anyone in my life. I can show you the spot where she was and maybe still is. Joran says some friends buried Natalee the night she died because he had to go home to sleep. He also writes that she might have been replaced.
He says he went to the location a week earlier to pay respects and from what he felt she was still there.
John Kelly answers that he doesn’t believe him and he has to do a lot better than that.
Joran swears he is not lying.
Joran emails a whole list of conditions. He also writes why he wants to come clean, because things have changed in his life.
Kelly is very hesitant, feels like he his being played.
Joran says: I’m ready to start my life over, I’ve hurt enough people. I would never blackmail Natalee’s parents.
Next decision was for John Kelly to go to Aruba.
Kelly and Joran decided to meet at the Marriott Hotel.
Joran didn’t show up.
Kelly went back to the US.
Joran later said in an email he listened to his instincts and he didn’t trust Kelly.
Beth never thought until that point that it was blackmail or extortion.
Beth called the governor of Alabama that she thought what had happened was a federal crime.
After that there was a meeting with the FBI. The FBI starts an investigation.

Joran writes another email on April 30th to set up another meeting.
Kelly took $10K cash with him to Aruba. Beth would wire $15K to Joran’s account.
The FBI came to Aruba too.
This time Joran did show up at the Marriott.
They went up to a room where Joran took the money, the FBI was recording everything.
Beth then wires the money.
After Joran gets confirmation from the bank that the money is being wired, Kelly and Joran go the site where Natalee is supposedly buried.
They get to the site, Joran says Paulus was the one who buried Natalee.
He says that Paul at first hid the body at the beach and replaced her a few days later.
There has been construction work at the site, Joran is leading Kelly through the area.
Jorans shows Kelly the spot where Natalee’s remains are supposed to be.
Joran uses the time that is needed to determine whether anything is actually there to flee Aruba.
Joran sends an email to John Kelly saying Kelly and Beth are nice people but shouldn’t be so stupid.
Joran meanwhile is in Peru spending the $25K.
Joran sends another email, that he wants Beth to buy him a plane ticket to Aruba, he wanted to turn himself in.
Beth thinks Joran is in the Netherlands.
She then finds out that Joran is wanted for murder in Peru.
She is afraid the story will repeat itself and Joran will be a free man again, like he became after being released from prison in 2005.
That is why she wanted to contact the Flores family.
So Peter and Beth go to Peru.

Next week: part 2.
Beth meets the Flores family, and Joran.

Thank you, Jo-An.....next week, part 2 makes me wonder if CBS has any plan to show it in parts or in entirety.  The Insider show mentioned usually only has short segments.  

Thanks Jo-An

Janet

Thanks Jo-An!    ::MonkeyDance::

You're welcome!  ::MonkeyKiss::

Jo-An,

If I remember correctly John Q. Kelly talked about meeting with Joran (without the money) in Aruba and Joran getting very angry about that.

They didn't say anything about that meeting in the show?  I'm thinking the one you mentioned where Joran didn't show up must have been before this one?

I found the article about it.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/37635627

snipped:

So Kelly went to Aruba in April to meet with van der Sloot without telling anyone but his own wife and Twitty. He met van der Sloot for about two hours in a hotel.

“No money, no recording devices. Nobody knew I was there,” Kelly said Friday. “It was Easter Sunday. It was one-on-one in a hotel room for a couple hours. He thought I was bringing the $25,000. I engaged him in a long series of conversations. I was trying to get as much information as I could.”

Van der Sloot wanted money, and when Kelly said he didn’t have it with him, the man got “very angry, very agitated, very upset.”

Kelly said it was nerve-racking.

“He’s a big guy. He’s 6’4”, 225 [pounds], well built. He’s sort of a threatening individual when he gets angry, no question.”

When Kelly returned to the States, he contacted the FBI and began to set up the elaborate sting with the FBI and Aruban law-enforcement authorities.

He regained van der Sloot’s attention by sending him $100. Then, with a promise that he would bring $25,000, another meeting was set up for May 10 in Aruba.

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It's late for Jo-An, no doubt....good question, TM.  I would guess it could depend on who they got their info from for this program and who edited.   It could also be an omission in the timeline if JQK went there three times??????         :smt102

The Extortion - According to John Q. Kelly

Deadly Connection?
Police say Joran van der Sloot - after confessing to killing a young woman in Peru - is finally admitting that he killed Natalee Holloway

By Chris Hansen
Correspondent

NBC News
updated 6/11/2010 9:03:58 PM ET

TRANSCRIPT


LIMA, PERU — Could it be the beginning of the end of the Natalee Holloway mystery?  Was there a confession?

JOHN KELLY: This was the first time he admitted being personally responsible for physically causing her death.


Or was it all a lie?  Like so many other stories from the chief suspect in the Holloway case.
 
Tonight, for the first time, details of an alleged extortion plot, targeting Natalee Holloway’s mother.

A first-hand account, from the  man who acted as a go-between.

JOHN KELLY: It's probably the most horrific unanticipated nightmarish ending for Beth that you could ever imagine.


With his money troubles mounting, his father dead, and his life spiraling downward, this spring Joran van der Sloot allegedly made a bold attempt to cash in on the Natalee Holloway disappearance.

JOHN KELLY: I got the first e-mail from van der Sloot on March 30.
Attorney John Q. Kelly represents the Holloway family in a wrongful death lawsuit filed against van der Sloot. He spoke exclusively to NBC News about the alleged extortion plot that, he says, began with that email from van der Sloot.
 
CHRIS HANSEN: What went through your mind?  What did you think he wanted?

JOHN KELLY: I had no idea.  I was more than amenable to talking to him, or hearing what he had to say just because, you know, I still-- committed to finding what happened to Natalee. So, any chance I had to open a door, I was willing to do it.
Kelly says van der Sloot quickly raised the stakes.

CHRIS HANSEN: Give me a sense for the e-mail communications that ensued.

JOHN KELLY: It was about money. It was, you know, "I want to come clean.  My father's dead now.  I have nothing to hide.  I want to help Natalee’s family, but at a price, you know, for a quarter million dollars—“

CHRIS HANSEN: A quarter million dollars?

JOHN KELLY: “Quarter million dollars, I will tell you what happened to Natalee, where she is now so you can help Beth bring her home."


After all the heartbreak and grief, after all the stories he had told, could van der Sloot be believed? Kelly says he immediately went to Beth Holloway with the offer.

CHRIS HANSEN: How hopeful was Beth that this might develop into some sort of closure?

JOHN KELLY: She's always been hopeful. I mean, she can't be anything but hopeful as a mother.

 
According to Kelly, with Beth Holloway’s blessing, he travelled to Aruba to meet with van der Sloot, who was expecting to receive a down payment of $25,000. 
For Kelly, it was a test run.  He didn't have the money.  It was Easter Sunday.  He says they met at the Marriott hotel.

CHRIS HANSEN: And what did he tell you during that meeting?

JOHN KELLY: He alluded to knowing where Natalee’s body was, and how she had died. And I asked him, "Well, what if I don't pay you the $25,000?"  And he just said, "Beth can wait another five years."

CHRIS HANSEN: Another five years?

JOHN KELLY: Yeah.  He was well aware that the five year anniversary coming up was sort of, it was almost like a clock ticking with him.

CHRIS HANSEN: Describe his demeanor during this initial interview.
 
JOHN KELLY: He was agitated, nervous and desperate at that time.
After returning to the U.S., Kelly and Beth went to the FBI and the Feds agreed to work with them on a sting operation.


Kelly would set up another meeting with van der Sloot in Aruba and this time bring $10,000 cash from Beth.  She would wire an additional $15,000 to van der Sloot’s Netherlands bank account. If van der Sloot took the bait, they might be able to charge him with a crime.

JOHN KELLY: If he took the money, and he took a wire transfer, and it was false information, which you know he has done in the past…

CHRIS HANSEN: Wire fraud.

JOHN KELLY: It's wire fraud. And extortion. And if for some reason, his information was true, the Aruban authorities pick him up on the murder charge.


According to Kelly, the FBI sent an advance team to Aruba to coordinate with Aruban authorities and set up for the sting, outfitting a hotel room and rental car with hidden cameras and microphones

CHRIS HANSEN: How did you think this was going to play out?

JOHN KELLY: I wasn’t sure. I was just holding my breath, the whole way. Every step of the way.


After a mostly sleepless night, Kelly arrived in Aruba on May 10.

With FBI agents monitoring, Kelly returned to the Marriott hotel, where he says van der Sloot met him.

CHRIS HANSEN: When van der Sloot walks into room 443--

JOHN KELLY: Yeah.

CHRIS HANSEN: --what does he say first?

JOHN KELLY: "How you doing?"  He's covered with sweat.  He apparently walked from his house to get there.  And, you know, I just told him to have a seat.  Gave him a Diet Coke.  We actually split a Three Musketeers. The one thing I did at the very beginning was show him the $10,000 cash.

CHRIS HANSEN: So, he knew he was getting $10,000 from you in cash?

JOHN KELLY: He was like, "Give me the money now."  And I was, "No, you're not getting the money now."

CHRIS HANSEN: And what did he have to do to convince you to hand over the $10,000?

JOHN KELLY: To take the wire transfer and sign the documents I had there, too.
Strangely enough, Kelly says van der Sloot had insisted Kelly draw up a document for both Beth and van der Sloot to sign.

CHRIS HANSEN: And what did those documents say?

JOHN KELLY: That he would take me exactly to where Natalee’s body was, and tell me how she died. And once I had confirmed that, he'd get the other $225,000. 


With the documents signed, Kelly says he handed over the cash and confirmed the wire transfer.

Then, Kelly says, they got into the rental car that had been wired by the FBI, and drove to the site where van der Sloot claimed Natalee’s body had been buried.

CHRIS HANSEN: And precisely where did he say Natalee's remains were?

JOHN KELLY: He pointed to a specific room on a house right by the Aruba Racquet Club. The foundation hadn't gone in yet.

CHRIS HANSEN: So, the story was that there was a house being constructed, the foundation was about to be built or poured, and they put Natalee’s remains in there, and the house was built around it?

JOHN KELLY: Correct. And I took pictures of him with a throwaway camera.

CHRIS HANSEN: You actually took pictures of Joran van der Sloot pointing to the location where he says Natalee’s body was?

JOHN KELLY: Yeah.

 
Then, Kelly says , they got back in the car and that's when van der Sloot told him how Natalee died.

JOHN KELLY: He actually admitted,  this was the first time he admitted being personally responsible for physically causing her death.

According to Kelly, van der Sloot claimed that he and Natalee were at the beach and when he wanted to leave, Natalee tried to stop him.
 
JOHN KELLY: He got angry and actually threw her. He actually made the gesture in the car, on video, showing me how he threw her in anger, because she wouldn't leave at that point.  And according to him, she hit the back of her head, lots of blood and she was dead.

CHRIS HANSEN: Did you think at the time he was telling the truth?

JOHN KELLY: Ah, no.


But Kelly says he played along and van der Sloot told him he hid the body on the beach with the help of his father who, the following day, buried the body.

CHRIS HANSEN: He implicated his own father in the disposal of the body?

JOHN KELLY: Along with himself, yeah.

CHRIS HANSEN: Why wasn't he arrested on the spot?

JOHN KELLY: That I don't know.  I mean, I went down there, I did what I was supposed to do. When I got on the plane May 11, I thought it was a done deal.  And he was going to be arrested at some point.  That he'd be talking at some point, and we'd get some closure at some point.


Aruban authorities would eventually determine van de Sloot's story about the body being buried at that site could not be true because the house he pointed out was not under construction at the time Natalee disappeared.
 
In the meantime, Kelly had no way of knowing that Joran van der Sloot would leave Aruba, find his way to Peru and a fateful encounter with Stephany Flores.

In Aruba, on May 10, attorney John Q. Kelly says he gave Joren van der Sloot $25,000 of Beth Holloway’s money.
 
Working with the FBI and Aruban authorities, Kelly and Holloway hoped that van der Sloot would be arrested-- if not for allegedly implicating himself in Natalee’s death then for extortion or wire fraud.

But van der Sloot was not picked up. After Kelly left Aruba, he says van der Sloot continued to email him

JOHN KELLY: He was telling me how he was personally going to turn himself into the police, and that he needed more time.  And I was pretending like I believed all this, just to keep a line of communication open.  I had been in personal contact with Joran up to May 25.


Kelly assumed van der Sloot was still in Aruba-- but he wasn't.

CHRIS HANSEN: Just days after you give him $25,000, he goes to Peru.

JOHN KELLY: Correct.


Then, on May 30, exactly five years to the day after Natalee Holloway’s disappearance, it happened.

Van der Sloot allegedly killed 21-year-old Stephany Flores at this hotel after a night out at a casino in Lima, Peru.
 
JOHN KELLY:  I was dumbfounded.
 
CHRIS HANSEN: Did you have to break the news to Natalee’s mother about the death of this woman in Lima, Peru?

JOHN KELLY: Yes.

CHRIS HANSEN: What did she say?

JOHN KELLY: She just stopped.  Just “how could this happen?”


According to Kelly, for Beth Holloway, the thought that her money may have facilitated van der Sloot’s travel plans was almost too much to bear.

JOHN KELLY: It's probably the most horrific, unanticipated nightmarish ending for Beth that you could ever imagine.  That her money may have financed his trip to Peru.

CHRIS HANSEN: Has Beth reached out to the family of Stephany Flores ?

JOHN KELLY: Not directly.  She's extended her deepest sympathy.  She's just really upset. Everything was just like an instant replay of what had happened five years ago.

CHRIS HANSEN: Déjà vu?

JOHN KELLY: Déjà vu.


Kelly says he does not blame U.S. law enforcement for letting van der Sloot leave Aruba but wonders why the Arubans didn't arrest him as soon as they could.

JOHN KELLY: I think at the minimum, the Aruban authorities could've picked him up, and they had the ability to hold him there at that time.  It was their country, it was their island, it was their citizen. They controlled the port, and apparently, they knew he was leaving when he was leaving.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37650865/ns/dateline_nbc-crime_reports/page/5/

From Jo-An's transcript:

Joran tried blackmailing Beth for $250,000.
It started mid to late March. Joran was looking for money. He wanted to lead Beth to Natalee’s remains. He said he wanted to get this “monkey off his back”  ::MonkeyCool::

I noticed that too!    ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/programma-gemist/

The show is on Peter's website now!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance::

I can't understand what he's saying but I'll try and capture it.

Me, three!!!

I'll have to do it later because the program I'm going to have to do it in makes me stay on the same page and I don't want to stay on one page for an hour.  I'll copy it later.

I watched the show even though it's in Dutch much is also in English and well worth watching the whole thing & hearing Beth tell how Joran contacted her and Kelly etc.


TERRIFIC SHOW PETER deVRIES!!!!


Beth is a true Southern woman! CLASS-ACT!

 ::monkeywine2::

Thank you Jo-Ann for reporting on the show.



Thank you Miss Magnolia for your post about the show in your local area at 1 AM. Very nice of you to stay up late with me. 
 ::MonkeyKiss::

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/peter-r.-de-vries/achter-de-schermen/achter-de-schermen-in-alabama/

Google translation:

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Sunday, October 31, 2010, 22:18 hours

Behind the scenes

Behind the scenes in Alabama

The special trip to Peter Beth Holloway has made unique, gripping material delivered. During the recordings were also some behind the scenes photos. Look at the photo shoot Part 1: Peter and Beth in Alabama.

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Peter and colleague Kees van der Spek Beth looked at her home in Birmingham in the U.S. state of Alabama

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Beth Holloway rejected the last half year all requests from both American and Dutch media

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In our program tells Beth for the first time exactly how the extortion in his work is gone, where Joran wanted to make her stealing $ 250,000

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For that money he promised to designate the place where he had buried remains of Natalee

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Where in previous interviews Joran claimed he was bombarded by Holloway family with e-mails, our report shows that the initiative itself was clear to Joran

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Beth Peter provided all e-mails Joran wrote to her. Peter also gained insight into all reports of the FBI, who followed the case closely

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The report on the journey of Peter and Beth was even sold to U.S. network CBS

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In the second part of the documentary, which aired on November 7, is to see Beth come face to face with Joran in the maximum-security Castro Castro prison


Last Updated: Sunday, October 31, 2010, hours 11:21 p.m.

I just finished watching the entire show too.  Well worth watching even with the language barrier.

I totally agree with you Kermit!  TERRIFIC SHOW, PETER R. DEVRIES! ::monkeywine2::

Beth is absolutely awe inspiring!   ::MonkeyAngel::

Now I can't wait for Part 2!    ::MonkeyDance::

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Beth-Holloway-describes-van-der-Sloot-extortion/lJPV8XtXWUW3ozuWreKK4w.cspx

Beth Holloway describes van der Sloot extortion attempt for Dutch TV

Last Update: 4:42 pm 

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Birmingham, Al  (WIAT)  Beth Holloway outlines for a Dutch TV show how the prime suspect in the disappearance of her daughter Natalee tried to extort money from the grieving family.

The interviews by Dutch crime reporter Peter de Vries air tonight in the Netherlands. The video has also been sold to the CBS syndicated show The Insider which has promoted the video for Monday. You can watch The Insider weekdays on CBS42 at 1:05 a.m.

According to de Vries website, van der Sloot wanted $250,000 to tell the family where to find Natalee’s body. The Mountain Brook teenager disappeared on a 2005 graduation trip to Aruba. She was last seen with van der Sloot. He was questioned several times by Aruban authorities but never charged in her disappearance.

De Vries has covered Natalee’s case for years and on several occasions has recorded hidden camera interviews in which van der Sloot has told a variety of stories about Natalee’s fate. He has subsequently denied them all and no leads have panned out.

In tonight’s program on Dutch network SBS6, de Vries says Beth Holloway shares a chain of e-mails from van der Sloot that led up to the extortion attempt. The website says the e-mails show “a shocking picture of the ruthless, calculating way” van der Sloot manipulated the grief of Beth Holloway.

Van der Sloot allegedly took $25,000 from the family but didn’t deliver the promised information. Although the FBI was monitoring the case, van der Sloot took off from Aruba with the money and didn’t surface until he was named the suspect in a murder in Lima, Peru.  He apparently was in Peru for a poker tournament.

21 year old student Stephany Flores was found dead in van der Sloot’s Lima hotel room. He later confessed that he killed Flores when she found material about Natalee on his laptop in the hotel.

De Vries says he also has had access to the FBI files in the extortion case which resulted in a federal grand jury here in Birmingham indicting van der Sloot for extortion and wire fraud. He described van der Sloot as ruthless saying "Without batting an eye Joran points in front of Beth's lawyer John Kelly on the spot on Aruba where Natalee is supposedly buried." According to de Vries, Joran van der Sloot named his then recently deceased father as his accomplice in disposing of Natalee's body.

Part two of the De Vries series will air Sunday, November 7. His website promises footage of a meeting between Beth Hollaway and Stephany Flores’ brother. More dramatically, he also promises video of the hidden camera confrontation between Beth Holloway and Joran van der Sloot in his cell in Peru’s Castro Castro prison. Again, The Insider will be airing that video under its agreement with de Vries and SBS6 and it will be seen on CBS42.
 

I watched the whole thing too.  Liked it. Loved that Beth was comfortable enough around Peter
to go barefoot.

Local news CBS42 in Birmingham just said that this is the last TV interview that Beth will ever do.
They didn't say how they knew that  They showed a little snip of the Insider interview.

Thanks Magnolia!   ::MonkeyKiss::

oops- I sent the post too soon! I think Beth is vibrant --and she "knows" something!!

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/23664-jan-van-der-straten-ta-splica-riba-e-trabaonan-na-centro-colorado.html

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1...images.stories.news.2010.mei.mei23.jan.JPG)

Jan van der Straten ta splica riba e trabaonan na Centro Colorado    
Sunday, 31 October 2010 21:13

Despues cu Centro Colorado a wordo sera pa motibo di awacero, mester a pone tambe e clientenan un otro caminda. A laganan bai Centro Dakota y na mes momento aloca un grupo tambe na un cas den area di Noord.
 A base di cierto critica cu a bin a dicidi cu lo bai drecha Centro Colorado. E clientenan lo bai bek Centro Colorado den algun siman. Jan van der Straten Cordinador di minister pa e problema di adiccion a splica un tiki mas riba e trabaonan.

 

Un tempo tabata papia cu na KIA tin un espacio pa por hinca e adictonan aden. E plan tey ainda pa muda e ser femenino pa KIA. Jan van der Straten den entrevista a splica tambe riba e parti aki. Mester a sigui cu e opleiding pa e empleadonan cu ta traha cu adictonan pero desde dos aña a stop esaki. Awor gobierno lo sigui cu e opleiding aki.

Na final a puntra Jan van der Straten pa splica kiko ta e planesnan pa e adictonan problemtatico riba caya. Tur cos ta canando caminda lo cuminsa piki adictonan segun e sentencia di huez Sali encuanto e curatela…Tin dos parti cu lo atende cu e adictonan. Tin e parti pa e adicto bao curatela y e adicto cu kier cambia den forma voluntario.

Through translator:

jan van der straten is splica on the trabaonan at centro colorado
sunday, 31 october 2010 21:13 come across

after cu centro colorado owing to wordo close before motibo by awacero, have to owing to laydown also the clientenan one another caminda. owing to laganan go centro dakota y at self instant aloca one are also at one cas in area by north. owing to base by cierto critica cu owing to come owing to dicidi cu will go fix centro colorado. the clientenan will go bek centro colorado in some week. jan van der straten cordinador by minister for her problem by adiccion owing to splica one bit more on the trabaonan. one time was talk cu at kia have one espacio before can hinca the adictonan inside. the plan tey still before muda the being female before kia. jan van der straten in interview owing to splica also on the part here. have to owing to follow cu the opleiding for her empleadonan cu is work cu adictonan but by two year owing to stop this. at present gobierno will follow cu the opleiding here. at end owing to ask jan van der straten before splica that is the planesnan for her adictonan problemtatico on caya. all cos is canando caminda will cuminsa piki adictonan according the sentencia by huez depart encuanto the curatela…tin two part cu will atende cu the adictonan. have the part for her adicto bao curatela y the adicto cu be willing to change in form voluntario.

TM - do you get automatic Awemainta notifications?  The link in my email tonight opens to a porn site.  Just wanted to warn you.  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyEek::

No I don't get them, but thanks for the warning!   ::MonkeyShocked::

Thanks, TM!! I watched it all, too. Well worth it even though it's not all in English.

I keep thinking that there's an opportunity here that Peter's missing... for himself. Surely he could figure out how to negotiate a simulcast in English that would play in America? There's an audience for it, and my limited understanding tells me where there's an audience, there's money to be made by doing it.

For me, I just want to be able to see it all in a language I understand ASAP.   ::MonkeyWink::

I agree CBB, and for a while last night I was hoping maybe that's why it wasn't simulcast here...thinking maybe it was taking a little time to get the show ready with subtitles for the Dutch portions?  But then again the program that will be showing it is only a 30 minute show?  So I don't know if they'd possibly split it up and show the whole thing or not.  But I'm still hoping we might get to see it all in English eventually!

Have a great day Monkey's!   ::MonkeyDance::

This is 3 pages & I had some trouble copying it all...The one comment so far is not worth reading...     ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://abcnews.go.com/US/natalee-holloway-mom-speaks-joran-van-der-sloot/story?id=12020525&page=3
Natalee Holloway's Mom Speaks on Joran Van Der Sloot's Alleged Extortion Plot
Beth Twitty Speaks in Documentary: Van Der Sloot 'Was Ready to Tell the Truth'

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Nov. 1, 2010
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The mother of missing American teenager Natalee Holloway spoke out for the first time about an alleged extortion attempt by Joran Van Der Sloot, the lead suspect in her daughter's disappearance, in which he offered to "bring [her] Natalee" in exchange for $250,000.


"He was ready to tell the truth and lead me to the truth and lead me to Natalee's remains," Beth Twitty told Dutch reporter Peter De Vries in a new Dutch documentary.

Natalee Holloway disappeared from vacation in Aruba in 2005. Van der Sloot, long time prime suspect in the teenager's disappearance, reportedly confessed to involvement in the girl's death several times, but later retracted the confessions. Van der Sloot is currently being held in a Peruvian prison, accused of murdering a young Peruvian woman in May of this year.

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In the Dutch documentary, Twitty said that van der Sloot reached out to her nearly five years after her daughter disappeared, offering information that would lead to Holloway's remains for the right price.


"I want to do something good," van der Sloot wrote in an e-mail to Twitty's lawyer, John Kelly, according to Twitty. "This is a hurtful situation for all of us and it will stay this way until it's over. I will bring you to Natalee, but the information that comes from me has to remain a secret. In return, I want to receive $250,000. If you're interested, I'll give you more details."

"I'm thinking, OK, if this is the way that I can get her remains, then I'm in," Twitty said.

Kelly, however, was convinced the offer was a scam and asked van der Sloot to Fed Ex him a bone fragment to be tested for Holloway's DNA. Van Der Sloot refused.

Still desperate, Twitty said she paid van der Sloot $25,000, but never received any information. Instead, van der Sloot traveled to Peru where a few weeks later he was arrested and charged in the murder of a 21-year-old Peruvian woman.

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I remember so well the night that Peter aired the video of Patrick in the car with Joran. We were all here.......... wasn't that a simulcast?

Another Face to Face

Mother confronts Aruba suspect
Holloway's mother questions Kalpoe about disappearance of missing teen
August 9, 2005

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY:  The one question that he (Deepak) did ask me, and this was probably 10 minutes before I was leaving.  He told me that the media has not seen this side of you.  I told him, I’d been saving it for you, Deepak. 

JOE SCARBOROUGH, ‘SCARBOROUGH COUNTRY’ HOST: What side is that? 

HOLLOWAY: I think it’s just the side that, I will stop at nothing to get answers.  There is nothing that I won’t do.  There’s nowhere that I won’t go.  I’m going to ask every question.  I don’t care how painful it is.  I will do it, because I’m not going to have any regrets.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/8885950/

 

IIRC, they weren't on at the same time.  It seems like there may have been a few days between them, but I'd have to look back to be sure.

No.  My hubby taped taped the entire special as it aired.

Janet

Translators were working....equivaction??? and EuroRobert....were posting in real time.

Barefoot and skinny jeans - she's HOT!

'Inside Edition' said it will air the interview with Beth on Monday. Ususally Inside Edition airs after Entertainment Tonight. Just check your local area listings.


I agree texasmom - Beth sure does show us all what faith, love, hope and class are all about.
I feel like a fly on the wall putting the pieces all together sometimes.

Heres to Beth and all the monkeys & freebirds who are dedicated to Natalee!
 ::monkeywine2::

After being in the presence of Deepak for an hour earlier today, are you convinced that he is involved in the disappearance of Natalee? 

HOLLOWAY: Oh, absolutely.  Anybody that was in there and saw him would agree 100 percent.  There wouldn’t be one person that didn’t believe that he had involvement if they would have been in there and witnessed and been in his presence.  There’s no one that wouldn’t believe that he has involvement.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/8885950/


TIME IS A TICKING FOR THE LEPRECHAUNS
 ::MonkeyGavel::

Report: Van Der Sloot Says He Lied About Holloway
February 1, 2008

ABC News has obtained exclusive U.S. rights to this stunning new information caught on tape and will air a 90-minute special edition of "20/20: The Final Hours of Natalee Holloway" Monday at 9:30 p.m. ET, as well as special coverage of the case on "Good Morning America" on Monday.

De Vries' hidden cameras caught Dutch student van der Sloot saying that Holloway died after having sex with him and that he then dumped her body at sea with the help of a friend.

But in a new development, van der Sloot now says that he was lying when he privately told an acquaintance that he was involved in Holloway's disappearance.

"It is true I told someone. Everybody will see it Sunday," Van der Sloot said on the Dutch television show "Pauw & Witteman," according to The Associated Press.

"That is what he wanted to hear, so I told him what he wanted to hear," Van der Sloot said, adding that he never fully trusted the man to whom he'd confessed.

"It is so stupid, it is so stupid, it is really stupid," Van der Sloot said, his voice cracking, the AP reported.

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4235362&page=1


Van der Sloot on Tape
Reporter says secretly taped interview reveals what happened to Natalee Holloway
02/03/2008

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4236252


klaasend
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #723 2/5 -
« Reply #293 on: February 05, 2008, 04:50:04 PM »

Last nights ABC special on Youtube links:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9.msg341474#msg341474

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2572.msg341540#msg341540


caesu
Re: MEDIA COVERAGE
« Reply #155 on: February 05, 2008, 03:28:48 PM »
ABC 20/20 Special

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XiVDQ-ShHs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgrnp8lEBTE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJTFAtA94W4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08GJS9fx-kw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvosKuNp76E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqtephshvvA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH2cOiIuID8

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9.msg341474#msg341474

I sincerely hope so.

In all of his so-called "confessions" Joran can distance the Kalpoes ... distance his father ... distance the former suspects in the Natalee Holloway case from implication in the events encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005 but ... it doesn't make it so.

When the archives are considered ... it is difficult to comprehend why there are still  those who insist on giving the Kalpoes a pass and ... it is also  difficult to comprehend why the Kalpoes are no longer suspects in the Natalee Holloway case.

Janet

++++++

Nancy Grace - August 26, 2006

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: We`ve known from day one Deepak and Satish Kalpoe are way deeply involved in this.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/26/ng.01.html

Just because ARUBA does not consider the Kalpoes as "suspects" -- doesn't mean the rest of the world does not.

That's what I remembered too.   ::MonkeyCool::

I don't get "Inside Edition" at all.   ::MonkeyWaa::

At one time I did have all the networks on my satellite channels, but some law a few years ago prevents that now (very irritating btw).  My local CBS affiliate doesn't carry it.  But I do get Entertainment Tonight on NBC, and there was a short advertisement that said Beth would be on there tonight.  So I'm going to watch it and see what they have.  If it doesn't have as much as the Inside Edition broadcast, maybe someone will put it on youtube in a day or two.

Hear hear!   ::monkeywine2::