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Title: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 - 3/20/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 30, 2010, 01:49:23 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_50.jpg)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE,

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/machpicchusteph.jpg)

AND STEPHANY!

 ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on February 14, 2011, 05:11:07 PM
Thank you Klaas  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 14, 2011, 05:13:48 PM
 ::MonkeyHeart::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 14, 2011, 05:16:56 PM
I Consider Myself Lucky

LOVING NATALEE
A MOTHER'S TESTAMENT OF HOPE AND FAITH
By Beth Holloway


<snipped>

At the top of her closet are some boxes, heavy ones.  I pull them down and open them to find Natalee’s composition notebook, which is actually a journal from a high-school English class.  It’s in her handwriting.  I have never seen this before.  As I open it, I instantly feel her with me right now at this moment, like a physical presence.  Overwhelmed with this warmth, I take the journal out and sit down on her bed to read what she has written about love and life.

Family is like a deck of cards.  You never know what kind of card you’ll draw.  No one is able to choose their family, but has to accept their own family.  I consider myself lucky because I am really happy with the family that I have to me, family is very important and should be a person’s top priority.

<snipped>

 :smt060




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 14, 2011, 05:19:01 PM
Natalee's Hero

LOVING NATALEE
A MOTHER'S TESTAMENT OF HOPE AND FAITH
By Beth Holloway


<snipped>

As I read on in the journal, I discover that one of the most moving entries is her desription of a hero.  Natalee writes:

A Hero is someone who puts others before himself.  He or she is very selfless and cares about the well-being of others.  Heroes also accept life's challenges and remain strong through tough times.  They also have a strong sense of determination and stick to goals and morals.  I believe that heroes uphold morals and try to encourage others to live life morally correct.  Heroes are not only just people called in times of physical danger, but individuals that can both emotionally and physically help people get through rough times.  A hero should always show respect for other people as well as respect for himself.

Instantly I realize that Natalee is poignantly describing the people who have reached out to help her family get through this "tough time."  It's almost as if she is thanking everyone herself by recognizing the importance of selfless people.  And I am amazed at her profound words here.  I sit and read the entire journal ...

<snipped>

 :smt060


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on February 14, 2011, 05:27:49 PM
May this thread see the return of Natalee to her family and justice for both she and Stephany!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: can on February 14, 2011, 06:01:43 PM

God bless Natalee and Stefany and their loved ones.

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 14, 2011, 06:10:03 PM
CBB

My prayer is also that Natalee Holloway will be returned to family members who will be afforded after almost six years the opportunity to lay her to rest on American soil.

I believe that there are those who where aboard the Persistence who could be instrumental in making this happen ... those who witnessed the furthering of the Aruban coverup agenda ... the Aruban coverup agenda that has prevented justice from prevailing for an 18 year old American citizen since May 30, 2005.

Janet

+++++

The Parable of the Lamp

Mark 4:21-23


Then Jesus asked them, “Would anyone light a lamp and then put it under a basket or under a bed? Of course not! A lamp is placed on a stand, where its light will shine.  For everything that is hidden will eventually be brought into the open, and every secret will be brought to light.  Anyone with ears to hear should listen and understand.”


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 14, 2011, 06:18:48 PM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/27753-turista-no-ta-duna-senjal-di-bida.html

Papiamentu translation:

tourist do not give senjal of life

monday, 14 february 2011 16:33

at mouth catalina one person owing to being achieve in water y do not give senjal of life. is tarata here of one tourist of inicialnan j.p. paramediconan owing to work cune but the do not reacciona. 

::snipping2::

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/MISC%20NEWS%2027%20012011/02142011_24ora_TouristNoSignOfLife_BocaCatalina.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 14, 2011, 06:25:21 PM
It's always "probably a heart attack"!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=6288&offId=0&offDate=2011-2

Papiamentu translation:

21 minuut happen | fecha: 14/02/2011 | horario: 18:57

man tourist of edad owing to achieve atake of curazon in lama at mouth catalina y owing to hoga

monday nightfall owing to enter informe of one caso of hogamento at mouth catalina, at once owing to dirigi tanto ambulance com cuerpo of rescate of bombero at the sitio. at arrival of the equipo of rescate owing to achieve they're atende he tourist cu owing to achieve problem, probably one atake of curazon y owing to guli enough water till hoga 
::snipping2::
but unfortunately at hospital they owing to constata cu ela fayece.

(http://www.awe24.com/_moblog_items/6288/2_1297724402.jpg)

(http://www.awe24.com/_moblog_items/6288/3_1297724402.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 14, 2011, 06:27:27 PM
May this thread see the return of Natalee to her family and justice for both she and Stephany!

 ::MonkeyCool::
 



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 14, 2011, 06:47:04 PM
http://amigoenieuws.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3325:nieuwe-reorganisatie-op-stapel-bij-politie&catid=108:artikelen-aruba&Itemid=199

Google translation:

New reorganization planned by police

Monday, 14 February 2011 7:04 p.m.

ORANGE CITY - The Aruba Police Force (KPA) is a thorough reorganization plan with the old ranking system comes back and share much emphasis on training and study. Dolfi Richardson says that police chief.

As a basis for the reorganization, the so-called layout which made four months worked. The plan was submitted to the Minister for approval. Richardson said the plan included new police functions are proposed which will cost the government more money, but not "significantly" more money. The police organization must also be more focus. This means that such research departments that are now scattered around the various districts shall be merged and come under the responsibility of a Commissioner for detective work.

With the reorganization, the reorganization of 2003 largely reversed. This is particularly true for the grades and promotion scheme. Intermediate Grades were removed seven years ago and that led to great dissatisfaction among the staff. A group of police officers struggling to this day still matter and there are already several lawsuits conducted. Still, Richardson says that with the return of the old grading structure everything is as usual. It does not mean that police officers such as early automatically to the next grade were promoted. This is now more linked to the capacities of agents which are not automatically the highest in rank, is promoted, the police chief said.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 14, 2011, 06:49:16 PM
http://amigoenieuws.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3307:herstart-valero-pas-over-enkele-dagen&catid=108:artikelen-aruba&Itemid=199

Google translation:

Valero restart only after several days

Monday, 14 February 2011 6:41 p.m.

ORANGE CITY - Contrary to what Minister Mike Meza (AVP) of Finance, Utilities, Energy and Communications this morning in the Papiamento-language press declares, Valero has not resumed production.

Minister de Meza left to newspaper Bon Dia Aruba know that all repairs were carried out last week after a water tank collapsed Saturday ready and that production has resumed to the maximum capacity of 225 barrels per day. Both Valero spokesman Bill Day as Victor Aguirre, representing the refinery, the relationship with government controls, however, have Amigoe that the repair work is still underway. "The repairs are still on the pipes instead of refined product," said Bill Day. "We're not sure how long it will take for the refinery restarted could be, but assume a few days." Day says that once when production is resumed it a few more days until the maximum output of 225 barrels is achieved. He said the refinery would at least put those plans to achieve production capacity. Victor Aguirre reaffirms its part, the repair work is still ongoing. "The process has started to reboot. It is planned that this week we can start again. But plans is one thing. Whether it actually happens is in God's hands. Minister Mike Meza could not be reached for comment on this.

Last Saturday, when a water tank in the 'tank farm' of Valero. This caused serious damage to pipes that refined product is shipped. This product came on land and in water at the refinery end and has been cleared, said Bill Day. The cost of the accident is still unclear and research into the cause of the collapse of the water is still ongoing, said the spokesman. It is the second major accident since the refinery has resumed production two months ago. In December an oil leak took place in the port of Valero after an oil tanker in the dock to a storage tank into the sea came. As in December, Valero not contact authorities and the Coast Guard, Emergency Management Office, Marine Department and the police.    ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 14, 2011, 08:37:40 PM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/27753-turista-no-ta-duna-senjal-di-bida.html

Papiamentu translation:

tourist do not give senjal of life

monday, 14 february 2011 16:33

at mouth catalina one person owing to being achieve in water y do not give senjal of life. is tarata here of one tourist of inicialnan j.p. paramediconan owing to work cune but the do not reacciona. 

::snipping2::

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/MISC%20NEWS%2027%20012011/02142011_24ora_TouristNoSignOfLife_BocaCatalina.jpg)

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/27753-turista-no-ta-duna-senjal-di-bida.html

Papiamentu translation:

tourist crucero owing to achieve ataca of curason in lama

monday, 14 february 2011 16:33

the tourist john edward rafferty jr., naci at merca day 1 of september 1929 (81 aña) y is at aruba because; passenger abordo of the barco zuiderdam owing to hoga today tardi at height of mouth catalina. the first indicacionnan is show cu probably past owing to achieve one ataca of curason in lama. 

::snipping2::

they owing to transporte cu urgencia for hospital but at arrival the person owing to fayece end. dr reeberg owing to constata dead natural (atake of curason) of the tourist. paz at his restonan.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 14, 2011, 11:45:29 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/video/van-der-sloot-suspected-in-death-10807912

News video clip from 6/2/2010

(This is almost at the end...it's a short clip)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Van%20der%20Sloot/06022010_ABC_Joran.jpg)

http://www.isaruba.com/Students%20life/Pictures/2009-2010/SWF_files/4th%20quarter/pto_Bingo.swf

4/25/2010 ISA PTO Bingo at the Westin

(lightened)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Van%20der%20Sloot/ISABingo_04252010_2a.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Van%20der%20Sloot/ISABingo_04252010_1.jpg)



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 15, 2011, 12:32:19 AM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/27753-turista-no-ta-duna-senjal-di-bida.html

Papiamentu translation:

tourist do not give senjal of life

monday, 14 february 2011 16:33

at mouth catalina one person owing to being achieve in water y do not give senjal of life. is tarata here of one tourist of inicialnan j.p. paramediconan owing to work cune but the do not reacciona. 

::snipping2::

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/MISC%20NEWS%2027%20012011/02142011_24ora_TouristNoSignOfLife_BocaCatalina.jpg)

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/27753-turista-no-ta-duna-senjal-di-bida.html

Papiamentu translation:

tourist crucero owing to achieve ataca of curason in lama

monday, 14 february 2011 16:33

the tourist john edward rafferty jr., naci at merca day 1 of september 1929 (81 aña) y is at aruba because; passenger abordo of the barco zuiderdam owing to hoga today tardi at height of mouth catalina. the first indicacionnan is show cu probably past owing to achieve one ataca of curason in lama. 

::snipping2::

they owing to transporte cu urgencia for hospital but at arrival the person owing to fayece end. dr reeberg owing to constata dead natural (atake of curason) of the tourist. paz at his restonan.

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/27753-turista-no-ta-duna-senjal-di-bida.html#comments

 ::snipping2::


Comments

scirbi for an island to die for, february 14, 2011
ultimamente have very much turistanan of edad is die at aruba. as ceck minister 'ego-tripper' his advertising, do you never know. quick scan & management team


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 15, 2011, 01:22:25 AM
I've been busy most of the day today but I did see a new document in the Kalpoe vs. Dr. Phil case.  The document is 74 pages total and there are some very interesting exhibits.  I'll post as time allows.  This first one pertains to the actual forensic review and transcription of the Skeeters tape  ::MonkeyCool::


(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4142/5447476908_1892051ae7_b.jpg)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5020/5446873883_2c0c8f3f0e_b.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4122/5447476942_3fd6bb745b_b.jpg)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5016/5446873927_cdb65693cc_b.jpg)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5011/5447476982_706904ec5c_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 15, 2011, 01:34:43 AM
 ::MonkeyGavel::

Thanks Klaas, and many thanks to the generous Monkey that pays for the documents!  ::MonkeyKiss::





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 15, 2011, 01:40:36 AM
There's another interesting exhibit, it's some information obtained from a forensic examination of Deepak's hard drive.  Seems like he was into porn (go figure).  I'm not going to post it due to the language on some/all of the porn websites.   Just know the sites were your typical really band names  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 15, 2011, 01:45:53 AM
There's another interesting exhibit, it's some information obtained from a forensic examination of Deepak's hard drive.  Seems like he was into porn (go figure).  I'm not going to post it due to the language on some/all of the porn websites.   Just know the sites were your typical really band names  ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks Klaas, probably sites visited by Joran as well.  jmo   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 15, 2011, 01:46:14 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_jjtij.jpg)

Justice for Natalee! 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 15, 2011, 01:47:19 AM
Good night Klaas, thanks again for posting the documents!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 15, 2011, 10:16:46 AM
Another part of the document filed by the Dr. Phil people.  There were several declarations by people stating their qualifications.  This one in translating from Pap to English.  Just wanted to make it clear to anyone that is reading that the Dr. Phil "camp" hired real official translators and didn't ask me for my expertise (lolol....j/k):

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5056/5448328328_2b400eb4c5_b.jpg)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5252/5448328354_4bbc622208_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 15, 2011, 10:28:23 AM
Klaas

Thanks for posting the Phil McGraw documents.  When the morning cobwebs clear ... I will attempt to comprehend the significance.

I am hoping the outcome of this lawsuit will not drag out too much longer.

Janet
7:25 AM PT



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 15, 2011, 10:46:34 AM
This gal is the Dutch to English translator.  By the way, the documents these people translated are not in this filing:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5218/5447798589_acdb4b09b0_b.jpg)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5175/5448404536_b158e54f54_b.jpg)

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 15, 2011, 10:55:41 AM
So a big part of the 74 page document is the credentials of those that gave their translations or expert witness or examinations in the case.  This document is to backup which has already been filed to support the credibility of the CBS Dr. Phil request for Summary Judgement which the hearing is to be held March 11, 2011 (doc says 2010 but they mean 2011) :

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5259/5448428042_8e949ec7b9_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Kermit on February 15, 2011, 01:29:14 PM
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5016/5446873927_cdb65693cc_b.jpg)


Jamie is talking about druging Natalee and raping her and Deepak responds:


Deepak: "You'd be surprised how simple it was the other night."



Judgement day is coming.
 ::MonkeyGavel::















Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 15, 2011, 01:44:10 PM
Yes Kermit - like I've always said, you can't defame dirt bags.  They expected that Dr. Phil and CBS would settle out of court.  THEY WERE WRONG.   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Kermit on February 15, 2011, 02:37:08 PM
Yes Kermit - like I've always said, you can't defame dirt bags.  They expected that Dr. Phil and CBS would settle out of court.  THEY WERE WRONG.   ::MonkeyGavel::

dr. phil told beth that "he would NOT settle."



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Kermit on February 15, 2011, 02:38:48 PM
So a big part of the 74 page document is the credentials of those that gave their translations or expert witness or examinations in the case.  This document is to backup which has already been filed to support the credibility of the CBS Dr. Phil request for Summary Judgement which the hearing is to be held March 11, 2011 (doc says 2010 but they mean 2011) :

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5259/5448428042_8e949ec7b9_b.jpg)


Ramm (Peter van der Vliet) posted at BFN that he has a "friend" named Anna who was doing translations


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Kermit on February 15, 2011, 02:41:30 PM
WHO WOULD THIS BE?

09/10/2008 Miscellaneous-Other (UNOPPOSED APPLICATION FOR COMMISSION TO TAKE ORAL DEPOSITION OF A NON-PARTY IN FLORIA )
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent


Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject:   
Domain Name (Unknown)
IP Address 216.242.112.# (Continental Broadband Florida, Inc DBA WebUnited)
ISP Continental Broadband Florida, Inc DBA WebUnited
Location Continent : North America
Country : United States (Facts)
State : Florida
City : Fort Lauderdale
Lat/Long : 26.1275, -80.2331 (Map)


Pesquera is in Palm Beach -- he would NOT id as Ft Lauderdale.
Jossy's place is in Hialeah -- Miami -- he would not id as Ft lauderdale.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Kermit on February 15, 2011, 02:42:46 PM
Deepak & Satish both say they've been seeing a shrink since Aug 31, 2006 - and names the doctor. Said he's been on Zoloft until Jan of this year.

I hope Dr. Phils attorney's are capturing these. Apparently, Deepak and Satish are partying away at the same bar they kidnapped Natalee Holloway from in spite of their mental problems [they say] they now have after Dr. Phil exposed them when Deepak confessed,

"Dressed like a Slut.",
"You'd be surprised how easy it was."

(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn82/texasmom_55/Mexican_Night___Senor_Frogs__97_.jpg)
SATISH AT FORMER CNC's now Senior Frogs

(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn82/texasmom_55/Dompig/MDompigLadiesNight07302008SenorFrog.jpg)
DEEPAK AND MICHAEL DOMPIG at Senor Frogs


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Kermit on February 15, 2011, 02:47:25 PM
Deepak: "You'd be surprised how simple it was the other night."



Deepak told John Croes that there was sexual activity between himself and Natalee.



FILING OF DR. PHIL

EXHIBIT A -59
page 144
WE ARE QUOTED AND OUR LINK:
http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/2007_09_01_archiev.html
* DrPhil7708c.pdf
http://tinyurl.com/6plxuw

 doc is the "Crimes Committed Against Natalee Holloway" that we published to our blog on Sept 17 2007. It talks about the proof that by the early morning hours of May 30th (after 1:30 departure from C&C's) and throughout the daytime hours - that all 3 suspects were covering up for some crime committed against Natalee.





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Kermit on February 15, 2011, 02:49:29 PM
::MonkeyCheer4:: i CAN'T WAIT until court!!!!



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on February 15, 2011, 03:03:35 PM
WHO WOULD THIS BE?

09/10/2008 Miscellaneous-Other (UNOPPOSED APPLICATION FOR COMMISSION TO TAKE ORAL DEPOSITION OF A NON-PARTY IN FLORIA )
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent


Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject:   
Domain Name (Unknown)
IP Address 216.242.112.# (Continental Broadband Florida, Inc DBA WebUnited)
ISP Continental Broadband Florida, Inc DBA WebUnited
Location Continent : North America
Country : United States (Facts)
State : Florida
City : Fort Lauderdale
Lat/Long : 26.1275, -80.2331 (Map)


Pesquera is in Palm Beach -- he would NOT id as Ft Lauderdale.
Jossy's place is in Hialeah -- Miami -- he would not id as Ft lauderdale.



Would that have been John Charles Croes???or was he deposed in Miami?


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: nonesuche on February 15, 2011, 03:35:58 PM
::MonkeyCheer4:: i CAN'T WAIT until court!!!!



I pray they all fall like domino's and pull in each and every sick disturbed and depraved participant in this horrific crime and cover-up.

Thanks for posting those Klaas


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on February 15, 2011, 04:22:04 PM
Thanks Klaas


I'm sure Deepak was depressed....it was a lot harder to "procure" under the radar.

He was "depressed" before the tape ever aired.  He told Jaime that his "life was over"....no friends...   Maybe he should sue Joran...or Anita since Joran was a minor...or Paulus's estate...for bad advice.

 ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on February 15, 2011, 06:08:29 PM
TICK_TOCK

SATISH_&_DEEPAK

 ::piggy::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on February 15, 2011, 06:10:18 PM
TICK_TOCK

SATISH_&_DEEPAK

 ::piggy::
THE JUDGEMENT AGAINST THE LEPRECHAUNS WILL BE.....

HANDS IN THE POCKET!

::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on February 15, 2011, 06:42:29 PM
Deepak
(http://bestsmileys.com/clocks/3.gif)

Satish
(http://bestsmileys.com/clocks/3.gif)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 15, 2011, 07:10:40 PM
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5016/5446873927_cdb65693cc_b.jpg)


Jamie is talking about druging Natalee and raping her and Deepak responds:


Deepak: "You'd be surprised how simple it was the other night."



Judgement day is coming.
 ::MonkeyGavel::



Prior to the filing ... the Aruban "powers that be" behind this huge defamation lawsuit must have been convinced by the NFI findings ... the NFI findings that imply that Deepak did not implicate himself, Satish and Joran in wrongdoing against the person of Natalee Holloway in his interview with Skeeters.  Considering ... the Skeeters' interview portion has not been dropped from the lawsuit ... it would appear the Kalpoes' attorneys have not budged on their position.  Why?

I wish I could but ... I just cannot get excited yet.

Janet

++++++


'The Abrams Report' for Dec. 1st
updated 12/2/2005 9:00:37 AM ET 2005-12-02T14:00:37

 
DAN ABRAMS, HOST:  Coming up, the Aruban government now claims that a crucial piece of videotape evidence in the Natalee Holloway investigation has been doctored and that one of the suspects did not say that he had sex with Natalee Holloway.  We have got all the versions of the tape. 

<snipped>

Verson #1: Dr. Phil Recording

ABRAMS: First, the portion of the interview as played on the “Dr. Phil” show.  This is the one that initially caused the controversy.

(BEGIN AUDIOTAPE)

SKEETERS:  If it was an accident, I can help all of you and if you guys were partying, even if somebody had given her a date drug—I‘m sure she had sex with all of you. 

KALPOE:  She did.  You‘d be surprised how simple it was. 

(END AUDIOTAPE)

<snipped>

Verson #2: Jamie Skeeters' Recording

ABRAMS:  All right, next here‘s a portion of the interview provided to us by Jamie Skeeters, the polygraph experts who was the one who actually interviewed Kalpoe

(BEGIN AUDIOTAPE)

SKEETERS:  Nobody told her that you can‘t (EXPLETIVE DELETED) her. 

You know?  I mean and I‘m sure she had sex with all of you. 

KALPOE:  She did.  You would be surprised how simple it was that night.

(END AUDIOTAPE)

<snipped>

Version #3: NFI

ABRAMS:  And now this.  Just hours ago e-mailed to us from the Aruban authorities.

(BEGIN AUDIOTAPE)

SKEETERS:  Nobody told her that you can‘t (EXPLETIVE DELETED).  You know?  I mean and I‘m sure she had sex with all of you. 

KALPOE:  No, she didn‘t.  You would be surprised how simple it would have been.

(END AUDIOTAPE)

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10294603/


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Kermit on February 15, 2011, 07:55:04 PM
WHO WOULD THIS BE?

09/10/2008 Miscellaneous-Other (UNOPPOSED APPLICATION FOR COMMISSION TO TAKE ORAL DEPOSITION OF A NON-PARTY IN FLORIA )
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent


Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject:   
Domain Name (Unknown)
IP Address 216.242.112.# (Continental Broadband Florida, Inc DBA WebUnited)
ISP Continental Broadband Florida, Inc DBA WebUnited
Location Continent : North America
Country : United States (Facts)
State : Florida
City : Fort Lauderdale
Lat/Long : 26.1275, -80.2331 (Map)


Pesquera is in Palm Beach -- he would NOT id as Ft Lauderdale.
Jossy's place is in Hialeah -- Miami -- he would not id as Ft lauderdale.



Would that have been John Charles Croes???or was he deposed in Miami?

Is/was John Charles Croes in Miami? This was for an oral depo so seems odd that it would be him since they have emails between Deepak and John Charles Croes right????

This IP was searching Pesquera.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Kermit on February 15, 2011, 08:07:21 PM
Prior to the filing ... the Aruban "powers that be" behind this huge defamation lawsuit must have been convinced by the NFI findings ... the NFI findings that imply that Deepak did not implicate himself, Satish and Joran in wrongdoing against the person of Natalee Holloway in his interview with Skeeters.  Considering ... the Skeeters' interview portion has not been dropped from the lawsuit ... it would appear the Kalpoes' attorneys have not budged on their position.  Why?

I wish I could but ... I just cannot get excited yet.

Janet

I surmise the reason the representatives for Kalpoes have not budged on their position is because *most* lawsuits are settled out of court in the ninth hour.  that is the whole scheme of lawsuits - attorney's make money continuing the case hoping the other side will cave in for whatever reason. Going into court Kalpoes will not stand a chance in their attempt to prove defamation. The Aruba minister stated they were still suspects. In other words, their character was that of murder suspects long before Dr. Phil show had Jamie Skeeters on as a guest with the damning statements by Deepak. Don't expect those leprechauns to figure it out. One only has to look at their eduction background to realize they are as close to dunce as anyone can get.  ::MonkeyDevil::







Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Kermit on February 15, 2011, 08:13:56 PM
Thanks Klaas


I'm sure Deepak was depressed....it was a lot harder to "procure" under the radar.

He was "depressed" before the tape ever aired.  He told Jaime that his "life was over"....no friends...   Maybe he should sue Joran...or Anita since Joran was a minor...or Paulus's estate...for bad advice.

 ::MonkeyRoll::

You're right.
When they lose, they are expendable and they don't get it.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Kermit on February 15, 2011, 08:15:57 PM
TICK_TOCK

SATISH_&_DEEPAK

 ::piggy::
THE JUDGEMENT AGAINST THE LEPRECHAUNS WILL BE.....

HANDS IN THE POCKET!

::MonkeyShovel::

or Strawberry driving drunk one night
or an ambulance hitting them
or on a tennis court
or a shot in the head on their front lawn
or maybe they'll end up inside a cage/trap on the bottom of the ocean


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 15, 2011, 08:30:26 PM
Don't miss the Dana Pretzer show tonight at 9pm ET:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/02/15/22540/

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4142/5449151611_9e5decbb68_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 15, 2011, 09:25:02 PM
Prior to the filing ... the Aruban "powers that be" behind this huge defamation lawsuit must have been convinced by the NFI findings ... the NFI findings that imply that Deepak did not implicate himself, Satish and Joran in wrongdoing against the person of Natalee Holloway in his interview with Skeeters.  Considering ... the Skeeters' interview portion has not been dropped from the lawsuit ... it would appear the Kalpoes' attorneys have not budged on their position.  Why?

I wish I could but ... I just cannot get excited yet.

Janet

I surmise the reason the representatives for Kalpoes have not budged on their position is because *most* lawsuits are settled out of court in the ninth hour.  that is the whole scheme of lawsuits - attorney's make money continuing the case hoping the other side will cave in for whatever reason. Going into court Kalpoes will not stand a chance in their attempt to prove defamation. The Aruba minister stated they were still suspects. In other words, their character was that of murder suspects long before Dr. Phil show had Jamie Skeeters on as a guest with the damning statements by Deepak. Don't expect those leprechauns to figure it out. One only has to look at their eduction background to realize they are as close to dunce as anyone can get.  ::MonkeyDevil::


When?

Kermit ... I realize that the Natalee Holloway case is an open Aruban investigation which implies case documents cannot be released and ... Joran is still considered a suspect but ... in January, 2009 ... in an Aruban press conference ... the implication was that Deepak and Satish were deemed witnesses ... no longer suspects.

The defamation lawsuit was filed in December, 2006.  I just hope that it does not drag on much longer.  I cannot comprehend what is behind the judge's reasoning for not throwing the lawsuit out considering Aruba refuses to release case documents which are crucial to the defence.

Janet

++++++

Aruban Press Conference 01/06/09
Press Anouncement


Ladies and gentlemen!

The Public Prosecutors Office Aruba and the Aruban Police Force would like to give you an updated summary about the investigation into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway …

• Amongst the witnesses were the two brothers who previously were suspects in this case but who, by the new statements of Joran, received an alibi from Joran, when he told the under cover that the two brothers are “jerks” who don’t know anything about what had happened … .

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/06/aruba-prosecutor-5-page-letter-dont-miss-the-part-where-he-trashes-fox-and-menever-dull/

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4344.msg614673#msg614673


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 15, 2011, 09:47:18 PM
http://www.coolaruba.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=529421Kiwanis%20Palm%20Beach%20Black%20Tie%20Dinner%20at%20Mr%20Jazz%20Oct%2018%202008

Kiwanis Palm Beach Black Tie Dinner @ Mr Jazz 18Oct (2008)

(http://www.coolaruba.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=530956&g2_serialNumber=3)

(http://www.coolaruba.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=531064&g2_serialNumber=3)

(http://www.coolaruba.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=531039&g2_serialNumber=3)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 15, 2011, 09:48:30 PM

STILL SUSPECTS in Holloway case

(http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/8063/16490008.jpg)


June, 2007


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on February 15, 2011, 10:00:37 PM
WHO WOULD THIS BE?

09/10/2008 Miscellaneous-Other (UNOPPOSED APPLICATION FOR COMMISSION TO TAKE ORAL DEPOSITION OF A NON-PARTY IN FLORIA )
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent


Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject:   
Domain Name (Unknown)
IP Address 216.242.112.# (Continental Broadband Florida, Inc DBA WebUnited)
ISP Continental Broadband Florida, Inc DBA WebUnited
Location Continent : North America
Country : United States (Facts)
State : Florida
City : Fort Lauderdale
Lat/Long : 26.1275, -80.2331 (Map)


Pesquera is in Palm Beach -- he would NOT id as Ft Lauderdale.
Jossy's place is in Hialeah -- Miami -- he would not id as Ft lauderdale.



Would that have been John Charles Croes???or was he deposed in Miami?

Is/was John Charles Croes in Miami? This was for an oral depo so seems odd that it would be him since they have emails between Deepak and John Charles Croes right????

This IP was searching Pesquera.



John Charles Croes was deposed in South Florida around that time by representatives
of Dr. Phil because of the e-mails.
This is all I could find at the moment. 

09/10/2008 Miscellaneous-Other (UNOPPOSED APPLICATION FOR COMMISSION TO TAKE ORAL DEPOSITION OF A NON-PARTY IN FLORIA )Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 15, 2011, 11:25:25 PM
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/02/encinitas-man-_-maybe-from-aruba-_-on-suspicion-of-counterfeit-checks-.html

Encinitas man held on suspicion of passing counterfeit checks

Comments (1) (1)(5)

February 13, 2011 |  7:16 pm

A 39-year-old man with a passport from the Caribbean island of Aruba has been arrested on suspicion of running a check forgery and counterfeiting ring from an office in the northern San Diego County suburb of Encinitas.

Damon Westmoreland was arrested after San Diego County Sheriff's Department deputies discovered check-making materials and computer gear needed to duplicate checks at his Encinitas office and a home in nearby Solana Beach, according to the Sheriff's Department.

Information about 10 banks and a Nevada corporation was seized from the two locations
 ::snipping2::

Despite the Aruba passport, Westmoreland's "true identity is not yet determined," said Sheriff's Sgt. Mark Varnau.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 15, 2011, 11:34:03 PM
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/02/encinitas-man-_-maybe-from-aruba-_-on-suspicion-of-counterfeit-checks-.html

Encinitas man held on suspicion of passing counterfeit checks

Comments (1) (1)(5)

February 13, 2011 |  7:16 pm

A 39-year-old man with a passport from the Caribbean island of Aruba has been arrested on suspicion of running a check forgery and counterfeiting ring from an office in the northern San Diego County suburb of Encinitas.

Damon Westmoreland was arrested after San Diego County Sheriff's Department deputies discovered check-making materials and computer gear needed to duplicate checks at his Encinitas office and a home in nearby Solana Beach, according to the Sheriff's Department.

Information about 10 banks and a Nevada corporation was seized from the two locations
 ::snipping2::

Despite the Aruba passport, Westmoreland's "true identity is not yet determined," said Sheriff's Sgt. Mark Varnau.

Wonder if this is the same guy?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenZap

http://www.aboutmytalk.com/printthread.php?s=&&threadid=124114

Regulators take action against Caruba International
Abstract: February 28, 2001. The latest Pyramid scheme run by
28-year-old Damon Westmoreland, called Caruba International, seems to
be headed the way of his last, which was shut down by regulators in
the United States. Caruba International, which claims to be operated
"entirely in Aruba" but appears to be run from Flo...


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 15, 2011, 11:40:19 PM
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/02/encinitas-man-_-maybe-from-aruba-_-on-suspicion-of-counterfeit-checks-.html

Encinitas man held on suspicion of passing counterfeit checks

Comments (1) (1)(5)

February 13, 2011 |  7:16 pm

A 39-year-old man with a passport from the Caribbean island of Aruba has been arrested on suspicion of running a check forgery and counterfeiting ring from an office in the northern San Diego County suburb of Encinitas.

Damon Westmoreland was arrested after San Diego County Sheriff's Department deputies discovered check-making materials and computer gear needed to duplicate checks at his Encinitas office and a home in nearby Solana Beach, according to the Sheriff's Department.

Information about 10 banks and a Nevada corporation was seized from the two locations
 ::snipping2::

Despite the Aruba passport, Westmoreland's "true identity is not yet determined," said Sheriff's Sgt. Mark Varnau.

Wonder if this is the same guy?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenZap

http://www.aboutmytalk.com/printthread.php?s=&&threadid=124114

Regulators take action against Caruba International
Abstract: February 28, 2001. The latest Pyramid scheme run by
28-year-old Damon Westmoreland, called Caruba International, seems to
be headed the way of his last, which was shut down by regulators in
the United States. Caruba International, which claims to be operated
"entirely in Aruba" but appears to be run from Flo...
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/5449544969_c88a8e92e2_b.jpg)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5015/5450155612_aa03193e8c_b.jpg)

Not going to give you the website link because it's a virus threat:

PROTECT YOUR ASSETS
while relaxing on the beach!

 
Let us show you how the WEALTHY

have done it for years!

Our Free newsletter: "turideas News" goes out biweekly and contains tons of great marketing and sales information. It also give you freebie tips

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 Name: The name of our company is Caruba International.
   Free Resource Center

 Location: We are located on the island of Aruba, which is a        
 island in the Caribbean, 30 miles north of Venezuela. Aruba is an    
 extremely stable country, which received its independence from
 Holland in 1986. Our bank in Aruba is one of the top 6 in the World.    

 This is not a US based company operating offshore, Caruba
 International is operated entirely in Aruba.

Owners: Ivan Shew-A-tjon, the President, is from Aruba.
   
We were able to set up this company and offer this great program,    
because of his citizenship. Ivan has a background in Finance and has     
banked offshore for over 10 years.

Damon Westmoreland, Executive Vice President, resides in San  Diego and has owned and operated several successful networking     


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 15, 2011, 11:52:20 PM
No idea if there's a connection or not, but Melody is connected to a Robles family in Aruba.  I think this is her little girl's father.

Jeannerick Robles
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=642275773


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 16, 2011, 12:04:15 AM
http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=archivecategory&year=2008&month=08&module=1

Papiamentu translation:

(http://www.bondia.com/images/stories/2008/augustus%2008/29/front.jpg)

maestronan of colegio epi sector salubridad y servicio owing to place work downstairs

friday, 29 august 2008

oranjestad – yesterday morning maestronan of colegio epi unidad of salubridad y servicio, owing to as one accion of one hour, in solidaridad cu one colega of they cu owing to stay retira for of colegio epi. is so cu sr. rudolf robles owing to splica cu they're expresa they solidaridad because one colega of they owing to wordo less for of work. according the maestronan, they colega owing to being retira at one form inhusto, y the madam here have seven year trahado cu colegio epi y of one day for another past owing to come hear cu for motibonan incomprendibel the not have work. the another maestronan owing to tell cu they're feel cu they're in the same situation cu sra. vigitte zijlstra, comokiera cu they posicion huridico do not regulation.

Read More


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 16, 2011, 12:06:14 AM
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5053/5449593339_7db0cccf61_b.jpg)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5059/5450203350_0f339b31a0_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 16, 2011, 12:14:57 AM
Thanks Klaas, big can of worms there!   ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 16, 2011, 12:23:30 AM
http://scam.com/showthread.php?t=120413

Post # 20 lays out the Caruba line of BS.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 16, 2011, 12:24:35 AM
Good night Monkeys!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 16, 2011, 12:24:58 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_50.jpg)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE,

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/machpicchusteph.jpg)

AND STEPHANY!

 ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 16, 2011, 12:28:12 AM
http://www.asc.state.al.us/Orders/2005/Admin%20Orders%202005.htm

Read the PDF

http://www.asc.state.al.us/Orders/2005/CD-2005-0005.pdf

Along with Ivan, Damon, Rudolf and others.......


Montgomery, Alabama

Joel Williford
Shelly Fearson
Gwendolyn Long
Geraldine Smith

Dothan, Alabama
Mike Vowell


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 16, 2011, 12:29:03 AM
Good night Monkeys!   ::MonkeyCool::

Nite TM


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 16, 2011, 12:29:31 AM
Just trying to pull together all the names in this scam in case any are familiar  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 16, 2011, 12:41:06 AM
http://www.asc.state.al.us/Orders/2005/Admin%20Orders%202005.htm

Read the PDF

http://www.asc.state.al.us/Orders/2005/CD-2005-0005.pdf

Along with Ivan, Damon, Rudolf and others.......


Montgomery, Alabama

Joel Williford
Shelly Fearson
Gwendolyn Long
Geraldine Smith

Dothan, Alabama
Mike Vowell

More of the same from Montana:

http://www.sao.mt.gov/legal/securities/S08_cnd%20caruba.pdf

http://www.globalfoodservice.com/events/irchi-details.html


(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5258/5449653635_65439186db_b.jpg)




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 16, 2011, 12:48:06 AM
http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1435295724

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5058/5450275216_e668a4895f_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on February 16, 2011, 12:50:14 AM
As a wise Frog once said "Follow the Money". In understanding the MAGNITUDE of the cover-up, one must truly understand the amount of money that was at play in regards to  Pau lus VDS. Setting up offshore accounts for the many corporations that game the system, is BIG BUSINESS, with lots of MONEY involved. This is a great book to read if you got the stomach for it. It will really help you understand how important someone of Paul us's pedigree is on an island such as AssRuba!

Treasure Islands: Uncovering the Damage of Offshore Banking and Tax Havens
by Nicholas Shaxson


 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on February 16, 2011, 05:45:47 AM


Prior to the filing ... the Aruban "powers that be" behind this huge defamation lawsuit must have been convinced by the NFI findings ... the NFI findings that imply that Deepak did not implicate himself, Satish and Joran in wrongdoing against the person of Natalee Holloway in his interview with Skeeters.  Considering ... the Skeeters' interview portion has not been dropped from the lawsuit ... it would appear the Kalpoes' attorneys have not budged on their position.  Why?

I wish I could but ... I just cannot get excited yet.

Janet

++++++




I have never seen an NFI document.  I have heard/seen different people discus the NFI findings, but I have never seen a document. If the NFI findings had been clear and negative, I'm sure we would have seen a document.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 16, 2011, 07:57:28 AM
http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1435295724

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5058/5450275216_e668a4895f_o.jpg)

http://ccfcorp.dos.state.fl.us/scripts/cordet.exe?action=DETFIL&inq_doc_number=L00000004275&inq_came_from=OFFFWD&cor_web_names_seq_number=0001&names_name_ind=P&ret_names_cor_number=&ret_cor_web_names_seq_number=&ret_names_name_ind=&ret_names_comp_name=&ret_names_filing_type=&ret_cor_web_princ_seq=&ret_princ_comp_name=SHEWATJON&ret_princ_type=

Detail by Officer/Registered Agent Name
Florida Limited Liability Company
CARUBA INTERNATIONAL, LLC
Filing Information
Document Number   L00000004275
FEI/EIN Number   650998054
Date Filed   04/13/2000
State   FL
Status   INACTIVE
Last Event   VOLUNTARY DISSOLUTION
Event Date Filed   01/04/2002
Event Effective Date   NONE
Principal Address
MERCEDES PARKVIEW BLDG.
1876 N. UNIVERSITY DR. SUITE 307-B
PLANTATION FL 33322

Changed 10/27/2000
Mailing Address
MERCEDES PARKVIEW BLDG.
1876 N. UNIVERSITY DR. SUITE 307-B
PLANTATION FL 33322
Changed 10/27/2000
Registered Agent Name & Address
FINANCIAL FOUNDATIONS, INC.
3150 SANDY RIDGE DRIVE
CLEARWATER FL 33761 US

Manager/Member Detail
Name & Address
Title MGR
SHEW-A-TJON, IVAN F
18720 NW 3 COURT
PEMBROKE PINES FL 33029

Annual Reports
Report Year   Filed Date
2001   08/21/2001
Document Images
02/26/2002 -- DEBIT MEMO   

01/04/2002 -- Voluntary Dissolution   

08/21/2001 -- ANNUAL REPORT   

04/13/2000 -- Florida Limited Liabilites   

Note: This is not official record. See documents if question or conflict.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://ccfcorp.dos.state.fl.us/scripts/cordet.exe?action=DETFIL&inq_doc_number=P04000172031&inq_came_from=OFFFWD&cor_web_names_seq_number=0000&names_name_ind=R&ret_names_cor_number=&ret_cor_web_names_seq_number=&ret_names_name_ind=&ret_names_comp_name=&ret_names_filing_type=&ret_cor_web_princ_seq=&ret_princ_comp_name=SHEWATJON&ret_princ_type=

Detail by Officer/Registered Agent Name
Florida Profit Corporation
CARUBA INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS, CORP.
Filing Information
Document Number   P04000172031
FEI/EIN Number   562412634
Date Filed   12/27/2004
State   FL
Status   INACTIVE
Last Event   ADMIN DISSOLUTION FOR ANNUAL REPORT
Event Date Filed   09/14/2007
Event Effective Date   NONE
Principal Address
111 N PINE ISLAND ROAD
SUITE 201
PLANTATION FL 33324 US
Mailing Address
111 N PINE ISLAND ROAD
SUITE 201
PLANTATION FL 33324 US
Registered Agent Name & Address
SHEW-A-TJON, IVAN
1802 N UNIVERSITY DRIVE
SUITE 1
PLANTATION FL 33322 US
Officer/Director Detail
Name & Address
Title D
SHEW-A-TJON, IVAN
1802 N UNIVERSITY DRIVE, #102-33
PLANTATION FL 33322 US
Title D
SHEW-A-TJON, ELIZABETH
1802 N UNIVERSITY DRIVE, #102-33
PLANTATION FL 33322 US

Annual Reports
Report Year   Filed Date
2005   02/03/2005
2006   07/05/2006
Document Images
07/05/2006 -- ANNUAL REPORT   

02/03/2005 -- ANNUAL REPORT   

12/27/2004 -- Domestic Profit   

Note: This is not official record. See documents if question or conflict.



Several other corporation listings here, I'm outta time, lol

Search by the last name

http://ccfcorp.dos.state.fl.us/scripts/corofflis.exe

Edited to add good photo of Ivan:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5139/5451153316_cd334bb668_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on February 16, 2011, 08:49:29 AM
(http://www.bucuticam.com/arubacam.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 16, 2011, 01:47:17 PM
https://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/OnlineServices/CivilImages/index.asp

02/15/2011 Ex-Parte Application (TO CONTINUE TRIAL )  (not available to purchase yet)
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

02/08/2011 Declaration (74 page document I just posted some of)
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent


Reminder of when the next hearings are:

Future Hearings

03/11/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Motion for Summary Judgment ((c/f 1-6-11)**return exhibits to WilliamHaggerty**)

04/04/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Final Status Conference (T/D 4-11-2011)

04/11/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Jury Trial (J/T 25 DAY EST.)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 16, 2011, 04:26:14 PM
I wish that Phil McGraw's attorneys would request a forensic investigation of Skeeters' hard drive from the FBI rather than private audio analysts.

The findings of an FBI forensic investigation on Skeeters' hard drive compiled into a report ... a report presented to an American judge by Phil McGraw's attorneys ... would put aside any doubt regarding what Deepak allegedly said ... what Deepak allegedly didn't say.

It makes sense if the lawsuit goes to court that the Kalpoes' attorneys would be in possession of the NFI findings for the judge's consideration.

IMO

Janet

++++++

FBI Confirmation?

'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for December 1
updated 12/2/2005 10:37:47 AM ET


<snipped>

RITA COSBY, HOST:  ... And LIVE AND DIRECT tonight on the phone from Aruba is Arlene Ellis Schipper.  She's an Aruban attorney and also member of the Aruban Strategic Communications Task Force.  She sent us that tape.  Arlene, what is the basis for the manipulation?  Where do you think the changes took place, if at all?

ARLENE ELLIS SCHIPPER, ARUBAN STRATEGIC COMM. TASK FORCE:  Well, it's not what I think, it is what the Dutch forensic institute thinks and what we have also requested the FBI to confirm, which confirmation we haven't received yet.  However, the NFI had four investigators separately look at these tapes, and they say that the Dr. Phil show tapes were edited for content in the following order.  Just before the word “she,” there was a cut.  And just after the word “did,” there was a cut.  And then they compared it to the CD-ROM that Mr. Skeeters sent the officials, and you have seen that piece, and it says, “No, she didn't.”  And he shakes his head while doing—while saying that.

COSBY:  Now, you mentioned, Arlene, that the FBI—we know that they also have the tape.  When do you think you're going to hear back from them?  And do you think that they're going to make their results public?

SCHIPPER:  I hope so, actually.  And you know what?  Because officially, of course, the court-appointed forensic institute is the NFI, the Netherlands.  But for comfort, the authorities here sent it also for your comfort, actually, your American comfort—the authorities also sent it to the FBI with—through an MLAT (ph) procedure, which is a mutual—just mutual legal assistance treaty between our countries.

And they also requested, on recommendation of the NFI, to investigate the hard disk of Mr. Skeeters.  And based on that, he volunteered his hard disk.  So we are waiting already for two weeks on those results.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10295536/


Private Legal Audio Analyst

'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for December 1
updated 12/2/2005 10:37:47 AM ET


<snipped>

FRANK PIAZZA, LEGAL AUDIO  Well, I have to say that the version that you just played me—I'm not sure if it's the Aruba version or the original...

COSBY:  We played both.  We actually played both.

PIAZZA:  OK.  The original version, which we'll say is Mr. Skeeters's version, and the Aruba version, they both, for me, as I analyzed them earlier, are exactly the same.  There's no changes.  Yet the Dr. Phil version, there are absolute edits.  And Arlene Ellis Schipper was accurate about the “did” and the “didn't” part of it.  That's my take on it so far.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10295536/




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 16, 2011, 05:00:58 PM
The FBI Hard Drive Findings?

Tale of the Tape Thursday
December 01, 2005


<snipped>

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN:  Dr. Phil and his staff stand by the tape they aired and claim Deepak admitted — and not denied — to having sex with Natalee. A representative for the "Dr. Phil" show specifically said that the show 1) Did not manipulate the Deepak tape in any way; 2) Did not alter what Deepak said in any way and 3) That they would give us [today] the tape they worked from so that we could inspect it to verify what they were claiming …

The representative also said the show stands by its position that Deepak said on tape, "You would be surprised how simple it was...." The implication of that quote is that Deepak had sex with Natalee.

We are also curious what the FBI has to say about the content of this interview. I was told by Jamie Skeeters on the phone the other night that he originally "taped" this interview directly to his computer hard drive and that he gave the hard drive to the FBI. Of course this hard drive — the "original" — is what will tell us exactly what was said or not said  — provided it can be adequately enhanced and analyzed. We don't have access to that hard drive so even after evaluating all the tapes and CD's given us, there could still remain in my mind some question.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,177286,00.html



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 16, 2011, 05:05:15 PM
In November/December 2005 ... the parents of Natalee Holloway appeared to have no doubt that the "editing" of the Dr. Phil recording did not constitute a "manipulation" when compared to the Skeeters original recording.

Janet

++++++

Natalee's Father

'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for Nov. 30th
updated 9:10 a.m. PT, Thurs., Dec. 1, 2005


DAVE HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY‘S FATHER: I listened to all of it this afternoon.

RITA COSBY, HOST:  Was anything doctored, anything manipulated? What I mean is, anything taken out of context?

HOLLOWAY: No, I don‘t believe so. I think what Dr. Phil‘s show did
was edited the tape. From what I can understand, you know, this tape has -
the air-conditioner came on about the time Deepak walked in the room, so you‘ve got a lot of snow in there. But essentially, from what I understand, he said—there was kind of a stutter after Jamie asked the question, and that stuttering part I believe was taken out of the tape. And then he said, No, we did. You‘d be surprised how easy it was that night.

COSBY: Do you believe, based on everything you‘ve heard...

HOLLOWAY: I think what the Aruban...

COSBY: Do you believe he‘s saying that they did have sex with her? Is that what you believe?

HOLLOWAY: Oh, yes. Absolutely. You can‘t have a negative and then turn around and then support it with a positive. I mean, they‘ve got to put the whole sentence together for it to make sense. If they said, No, we didn‘t, and then turn around and said, You wouldn‘t believe how simple it was, that just—that just doesn‘t make sense.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10281941/


Natalee's Mother

'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for Nov. 30th
updated 9:10 a.m. PT, Thurs., Dec. 1, 2005


<snipped>

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY‘S MOTHER: You know, Rita, when they use the word “manipulated,” they really need to use the word “edited.” And the tape that they‘re saying was manipulated was the one that was shown on Dr. Phil, it was edited. It was edited for television. You can‘t get a 20-second or a 6-second sound bite out of two-and-a-half hours. And you know, yes, Deepak did respond to Jamie‘s question that they all had sex with her. And he even (INAUDIBLE) You‘d be surprised how simple it was that night.

RITA COSBY, HOST:  So there was nothing taken out of context, as they‘re even suggesting?

HOLLOWAY TWITTY: No, not that I could see, Rita. But you know, I know that Jamie Skeeters will have to give the information on the tapes, but I do stand by him and his validity on the tapes, Rita.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10281941/


 :smt060





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 16, 2011, 05:20:55 PM
https://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/OnlineServices/CivilImages/index.asp

02/15/2011 Ex-Parte Application (TO CONTINUE TRIAL )  (not available to purchase yet)
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

02/08/2011 Declaration (74 page document I just posted some of)
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent


Reminder of when the next hearings are:

Future Hearings

03/11/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Motion for Summary Judgment ((c/f 1-6-11)**return exhibits to WilliamHaggerty**)

04/04/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Final Status Conference (T/D 4-11-2011)

04/11/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Jury Trial (J/T 25 DAY EST.)

Thanks Klaas

I do believe that there is light at the end of the tunnel in regards to an outcome in this four year defamation lawsuit against Phil McGraw.

They said that good things come in threes.  Well ... if the Aruban "powers that be" who are behind this defamation lawsuit lose ... if Joran van der Sloot is sentenced to serve years in a Peruvia lockup for the murder of Stephany Flores and ... if one person who was on board the Persistence grows a conscience and reveals all in regards to the betrayal of Natalee Holloway ... I will consider 2011 a very good year.

Janet


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: yuknomenot on February 16, 2011, 05:37:14 PM
Ivan Shew used to live here http://southflorida.blockshopper.com/property/504107172690/10874_hawks_vista_street/ (http://southflorida.blockshopper.com/property/504107172690/10874_hawks_vista_street/)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 16, 2011, 06:30:05 PM
https://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/OnlineServices/CivilImages/index.asp

02/15/2011 Ex-Parte Application (TO CONTINUE TRIAL )  (not available to purchase yet)
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

02/08/2011 Declaration (74 page document I just posted some of)
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent


Reminder of when the next hearings are:

Future Hearings

03/11/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Motion for Summary Judgment ((c/f 1-6-11)**return exhibits to WilliamHaggerty**)

04/04/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Final Status Conference (T/D 4-11-2011)

04/11/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Jury Trial (J/T 25 DAY EST.)

Thanks Klaas!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 16, 2011, 06:41:49 PM
http://amigoenieuws.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3413:delegatie-nederlandse-gasunie-naar-aruba&catid=108:artikelen-aruba&Itemid=199

Google translation:

Delegation Dutch Gasunie to Aruba

Wednesday, 16 February 2011 5:11 p.m.

ORANGE CITY - The Dutch Gasunie is interested in participating in the supply and distribution of natural gas in Aruba. Within a month, a group of experts from the gas supplier to Aruba to investigate the possibilities.

Three weeks ago, were two representatives of the second largest gas supplier to Europe exploratory talks with Valero, and Utilities WEB SA, says Freddy Rafini, policy officer of Utilities NV. "Gasunie to Aruba due to the Prime Minister has good contacts with the Netherlands. We are still at a very early stage, but Gasunie sees opportunities in the storage of liquid gas that is purchased and the construction of a tube between Valero and WEB. They come to Aruba to examine their potential. " 

Valero and in December the government signed an agreement in principle for the joint care of both the refinery and gas supplies for water and power company WEB. This is done through a joint venture, purchasing, storage and distribution of liquefied gas will account. In principle agreement states that SA WEB and Utilities are able to participate. But Gasunie can get in as a partner. "The team that Gasunie visit, will also look at," said Rafini.

Floating tank
The exact plans for gas supply and distribution have now taking shape. Thus, at a Valero floating reservoir where liquid gas is stored that probably once a month is provided. At the same container is also an installation that the liquid substance into a gas sales. "This system is used until the gas line from Venezuela has been realized. Then the monthly supply from Venezuela, like a sort of safety net, "said Rafini. The road to the gas line from the Venezuelan mainland is long, and apparently uncertain. "It's between three and five years before the pipeline is there. Before the pipeline is constructed to Aruba which is negotiating with both Colombia where the gas comes from, as in Venezuela where the pipe to a large extent through. "Last year in July spoke to Prime Minister Mike Eman (AVP) and the Venezuelan Foreign Minister Nicolás Maduro remaining to jointly studying the possibility of a gas pipeline from energy company PDVSA from Venezuela, Aruba and Curacao. With that goal in October, a committee. The status of this committee is still unknown. Moreover Rafini says that the exploration gas reserves on its seabed is still being investigated by the government.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: sharon on February 16, 2011, 06:58:36 PM
WHO WOULD THIS BE?

09/10/2008 Miscellaneous-Other (UNOPPOSED APPLICATION FOR COMMISSION TO TAKE ORAL DEPOSITION OF A NON-PARTY IN FLORIA )
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent


Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject:   
Domain Name (Unknown)
IP Address 216.242.112.# (Continental Broadband Florida, Inc DBA WebUnited)
ISP Continental Broadband Florida, Inc DBA WebUnited
Location Continent : North America
Country : United States (Facts)
State : Florida
City : Fort Lauderdale
Lat/Long : 26.1275, -80.2331 (Map)


Pesquera is in Palm Beach -- he would NOT id as Ft Lauderdale.
Jossy's place is in Hialeah -- Miami -- he would not id as Ft lauderdale.



Would that have been John Charles Croes???or was he deposed in Miami?

Is/was John Charles Croes in Miami? This was for an oral depo so seems odd that it would be him since they have emails between Deepak and John Charles Croes right????

This IP was searching Pesquera.



Jairo Dirkssen (sp?) was in Ft lauderdale -- ATA office iirc. Shango ID'd in Ft Lauderdale.

Maybe Pesquera lives in Ft Lauderdale?

 ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 16, 2011, 07:06:50 PM
WHO WOULD THIS BE?

09/10/2008 Miscellaneous-Other (UNOPPOSED APPLICATION FOR COMMISSION TO TAKE ORAL DEPOSITION OF A NON-PARTY IN FLORIA )
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent


Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject:   
Domain Name (Unknown)
IP Address 216.242.112.# (Continental Broadband Florida, Inc DBA WebUnited)
ISP Continental Broadband Florida, Inc DBA WebUnited
Location Continent : North America
Country : United States (Facts)
State : Florida
City : Fort Lauderdale
Lat/Long : 26.1275, -80.2331 (Map)


Pesquera is in Palm Beach -- he would NOT id as Ft Lauderdale.
Jossy's place is in Hialeah -- Miami -- he would not id as Ft lauderdale.



Would that have been John Charles Croes???or was he deposed in Miami?

Is/was John Charles Croes in Miami? This was for an oral depo so seems odd that it would be him since they have emails between Deepak and John Charles Croes right????

This IP was searching Pesquera.



Jairo Dirkssen (sp?) was in Ft lauderdale -- ATA office iirc. Shango ID'd in Ft Lauderdale.

Maybe Pesquera lives in Ft Lauderdale?

 ::MonkeyKiss::

Good memory Sharon.  Yep he went to Broward College which is in Fort Lauderdale.

http://www.facebook.com/jairo.dirksen (http://www.facebook.com/jairo.dirksen)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 16, 2011, 11:31:33 PM
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/02/encinitas-man-_-maybe-from-aruba-_-on-suspicion-of-counterfeit-checks-.html

Encinitas man held on suspicion of passing counterfeit checks

Comments (1) (1)(5)

February 13, 2011 |  7:16 pm

A 39-year-old man with a passport from the Caribbean island of Aruba has been arrested on suspicion of running a check forgery and counterfeiting ring from an office in the northern San Diego County suburb of Encinitas.

Damon Westmoreland was arrested after San Diego County Sheriff's Department deputies discovered check-making materials and computer gear needed to duplicate checks at his Encinitas office and a home in nearby Solana Beach, according to the Sheriff's Department.

Information about 10 banks and a Nevada corporation was seized from the two locations
 ::snipping2::

Despite the Aruba passport, Westmoreland's "true identity is not yet determined," said Sheriff's Sgt. Mark Varnau.

http://www.fox5sandiego.com/news/kswb-damon-westmoreland-arrested,0,4453391.story

Solana Beach man suspected of check fraud scheme

By John Langeler
FOX 5 San Diego Reporter
6:50 p.m. PST, February 11, 2011


SAN DIEGO --San Diego Sheriff's deputies arrested a Solana Beach man Friday on accusations he wrote four bad rent checks equaling $15,000 in Solana Beach.

Investigators said they may have stumbled onto an elaborate financial scheme spanning two states and an untold amount of money.

"We've developed information that leads to additional financial crimes," said Sgt. Mark Varnau of the San Diego Sheriff's Department. "(This) appears to be a pretty elaborate scheme of fraudulent behavior."

Sign up for FOX5 Breaking News alerts

Damon Westmoreland, 39, was renting two North County properties, apartments in Solana Beach and Cardiff. A deputy was investigating the fraudulent rent checks in Solana Beach when the second address came up. Walls of that address were covered in writing, possible evidence of a financial scheme.

Investigators said he may be running a Nevada corporation illegally as well, using a front person to open it, illegally getting PayPal checks through the corporation and taking money out of the business just before shutting it down.
 ::snipping2::

http://www.fox5sandiego.com/news/kswb-damon-westmoreland,0,1832840.photo

Damon Westmoreland

(http://*BLOCKED*/media/photo/2011-02/59376392.jpg)

( San Diego Magazine )


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 16, 2011, 11:39:37 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_50.jpg)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE,

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/machpicchusteph.jpg)

AND STEPHANY!

 ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 17, 2011, 12:20:54 AM
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/02/encinitas-man-_-maybe-from-aruba-_-on-suspicion-of-counterfeit-checks-.html

Encinitas man held on suspicion of passing counterfeit checks

Comments (1) (1)(5)

February 13, 2011 |  7:16 pm

A 39-year-old man with a passport from the Caribbean island of Aruba has been arrested on suspicion of running a check forgery and counterfeiting ring from an office in the northern San Diego County suburb of Encinitas.

Damon Westmoreland was arrested after San Diego County Sheriff's Department deputies discovered check-making materials and computer gear needed to duplicate checks at his Encinitas office and a home in nearby Solana Beach, according to the Sheriff's Department.

Information about 10 banks and a Nevada corporation was seized from the two locations
 ::snipping2::

Despite the Aruba passport, Westmoreland's "true identity is not yet determined," said Sheriff's Sgt. Mark Varnau.

http://www.fox5sandiego.com/news/kswb-damon-westmoreland-arrested,0,4453391.story

Solana Beach man suspected of check fraud scheme

By John Langeler
FOX 5 San Diego Reporter
6:50 p.m. PST, February 11, 2011


SAN DIEGO --San Diego Sheriff's deputies arrested a Solana Beach man Friday on accusations he wrote four bad rent checks equaling $15,000 in Solana Beach.

Investigators said they may have stumbled onto an elaborate financial scheme spanning two states and an untold amount of money.

"We've developed information that leads to additional financial crimes," said Sgt. Mark Varnau of the San Diego Sheriff's Department. "(This) appears to be a pretty elaborate scheme of fraudulent behavior."

Sign up for FOX5 Breaking News alerts

Damon Westmoreland, 39, was renting two North County properties, apartments in Solana Beach and Cardiff. A deputy was investigating the fraudulent rent checks in Solana Beach when the second address came up. Walls of that address were covered in writing, possible evidence of a financial scheme.

Investigators said he may be running a Nevada corporation illegally as well, using a front person to open it, illegally getting PayPal checks through the corporation and taking money out of the business just before shutting it down.
 ::snipping2::

http://www.fox5sandiego.com/news/kswb-damon-westmoreland,0,1832840.photo

Damon Westmoreland

(http://*BLOCKED*/media/photo/2011-02/59376392.jpg)

( San Diego Magazine )


From 2004


http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~uhadms/mz_newsletter.html

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5131/5452899012_9381084d67_z.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on February 17, 2011, 08:29:49 AM
Natalee's Candles

 ::MonkeyAngel::

Please light a candle and say a prayer for Natalee.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=NAH

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Nat's


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 17, 2011, 02:33:18 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/27900-update-turista-italiano-ta-hoga-na-baby-beach.html

Papiamentu translation:

update: tourist italian is hoga at baby beach

thursday, 17 february 2011 13:31

luigi jachetti nasi at italia day 17 of march 1940 will was one bishitante cu have more or less 20 anja is come aruba y was procedente of residencia at estados unidos of america. the was cu his wife, amigo y famianan at baby beach hour cu dado instant they owing to lose of view in water seco (paden of rif). one dado instant famianan owing to look at hendenan is sacando one curpa for of lama y owing to come ripara cu is they being love. cpr owing to wordo practica on the victima but not owing to succeed scapa his life. for more or less 12’or of afternoon dr. lunchmunn is constata dead probably door of ataca of curazon cu will owing to resulta in hogamento of the victima.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 17, 2011, 06:44:31 PM
https://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/OnlineServices/CivilImages/index.asp

02/15/2011 Ex-Parte Application (TO CONTINUE TRIAL )  (not available to purchase yet)
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

02/08/2011 Declaration (74 page document I just posted some of)
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent


Reminder of when the next hearings are:

Future Hearings

03/11/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Motion for Summary Judgment ((c/f 1-6-11)**return exhibits to WilliamHaggerty**)

04/04/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Final Status Conference (T/D 4-11-2011)

04/11/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Jury Trial (J/T 25 DAY EST.)

02/15/2011 Ex-Parte Application (TO CONTINUE TRIAL )  (available today)
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner


(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5091/5454851290_0729a265e0_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 17, 2011, 06:45:43 PM
http://www.postcrescent.com/article/20110217/APC0904/110217102/The-Local-Scene-
 ::snipping2::


Tuesday, Feb. 22 — Beth Holloway, mother of Natalee Holloway, who disappeared in Aruba during a 2005 spring break trip and whose case still remains unsolved, will visit Fox Valley Technical College for a public presentation on missing persons and international travel safety. She will speak at 7 p.m. in room A170 at the college’s Grand Chute campus. 

::snipping2::

For more information, call 920-735-4818 or visit www.fvtc.edu/missing.


Read more: http://www.postcrescent.com/article/20110217/APC0904/110217102/The-Local-Scene#ixzz1EGLa8jxh


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: can on February 17, 2011, 08:25:14 PM
Thanks Klaas.  Thanks also to the generous donor who provides the documents.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 17, 2011, 08:33:46 PM
Thanks Klaas.  Thanks also to the generous donor who provides the documents.

Thanks to you both from me too!   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on February 17, 2011, 08:40:09 PM
https://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/OnlineServices/CivilImages/index.asp

02/15/2011 Ex-Parte Application (TO CONTINUE TRIAL )  (not available to purchase yet)
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

02/08/2011 Declaration (74 page document I just posted some of)
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent


Reminder of when the next hearings are:

Future Hearings

03/11/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Motion for Summary Judgment ((c/f 1-6-11)**return exhibits to WilliamHaggerty**)

04/04/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Final Status Conference (T/D 4-11-2011)

04/11/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Jury Trial (J/T 25 DAY EST.)

02/15/2011 Ex-Parte Application (TO CONTINUE TRIAL )  (available today)
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner


(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5091/5454851290_0729a265e0_b.jpg)
So....... is this saying that the Plaintiffs want the court to rule on the Defendent's "Summary Judgement" motion BEFORE the March 11 date??? Bring it on!!!
The judge should have ruled on that TODAY!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 17, 2011, 09:06:11 PM
https://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/OnlineServices/CivilImages/index.asp

02/15/2011 Ex-Parte Application (TO CONTINUE TRIAL )  (not available to purchase yet)
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

02/08/2011 Declaration (74 page document I just posted some of)
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent


Reminder of when the next hearings are:

Future Hearings

03/11/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Motion for Summary Judgment ((c/f 1-6-11)**return exhibits to WilliamHaggerty**)

04/04/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Final Status Conference (T/D 4-11-2011)

04/11/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Jury Trial (J/T 25 DAY EST.)

02/15/2011 Ex-Parte Application (TO CONTINUE TRIAL )  (available today)
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner


(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5091/5454851290_0729a265e0_b.jpg)
So....... is this saying that the Plaintiffs want the court to rule on the Defendent's "Summary Judgement" motion BEFORE the March 11 date??? Bring it on!!!
The judge should have ruled on that TODAY!

When what has been revealed is considered ... it would appear that this request by the plaintiffs (Kalpoes) would benefit the defendant (Phil McGraw).  There must be something I am not understanding in regards to the Plaintiffs' (Kalpoes) motive.

Janet



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 17, 2011, 09:07:22 PM
The name may just be coincidence...   ::MonkeyWink::

http://www.24ora.com/carnaval-56-mainmenu-53/27909-entrevista-cu-jennyree-geerman-representando-aruba-na-e-international-carnival-queen-election-.html

interview cu jennyree geerman representando aruba at the international carnival queen election

thursday, 17 february 2011 18:29

 popup video click play for see the interview cu 24ora.com owing to sostene cu jennyree diahuebs during day.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 17, 2011, 09:10:29 PM
http://www.carilec.com/members2/uploads/ENG2010_Presentations/BiographyBooklet.pdf

2010 Engineering Conference & Supply Chain Seminar
Theme: “Sharing Knowledge and Experience for Practical, Proven Solutions”
Sonesta Maho, St. Maarten    25-28 July, 2010
Biography Booklet
 ::snipping2::

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 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 17, 2011, 09:41:45 PM
texasmom, orchidfae and 5 Guests are viewing this topic.
 ::HelloKitty::


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Post by: texasmom on February 17, 2011, 09:58:48 PM
http://nl.hi5.com/friend/p177159875--Geerman+Jenny--html


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Post by: klaasend on February 17, 2011, 09:59:49 PM
The Dr. Phil team responded on 2/16 - basically calling BS on Kalpoes.  Here are the first 6 pages (Table of Contents and Introduction) of a 60 opposition to the continuation:

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 17, 2011, 10:09:46 PM
From 2010 - exactly 1 year ago

Lie detector test   - Jenny Geerman


http://stephww.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/lie-detector.pdf
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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 17, 2011, 10:14:28 PM
THANKS for posting the additional documents Klaas!   ::MonkeyKiss::

And THANKS to the generous Monkey who pays for the court documents!   ::MonkeyKiss::

 ::MonkeyGavel::

Thanks for posting the Lie Detector Test report too Klaas, I was looking for my copy!    ::MonkeyShovel:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 17, 2011, 10:27:49 PM
So it was all "hush hush" this Jenny Geerman witness and now he's all in the news?  Go figure.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on February 17, 2011, 10:49:15 PM
Did Tim Miller actually think that an employee of the Aruban Govt was gonna help this case? I don't try to understand. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 18, 2011, 12:03:25 AM
Part of the Defendants Opposition to Trial Continuance (60 pages total) :

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 18, 2011, 12:21:38 AM
Thanks Klaas!   ::MonkeyCool::

Wonder how long it will take for a ruling...

The motions should be denied, this has gone on long enough...I think the lawyers summed it up well; they should not receive yet another continuance!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Hopefully we'll know something soon.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 18, 2011, 12:25:29 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_50.jpg)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE,

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AND STEPHANY!

 ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on February 18, 2011, 12:29:18 AM
I don't usually post my thanks to Klaas and Generous Monkey, but I am always
grateful and enjoy reading the court documents. ::MonkeyCool::

It does appear that the Kalpoe attorneys are just stalling and being uncorperative,
thinking that Dr. Phil will grow tired and settle.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 18, 2011, 12:31:49 AM
I don't usually post my thanks to Klaas and Generous Monkey, but I am always
grateful and enjoy reading the court documents. ::MonkeyCool::

It does appear that the Kalpoe attorneys are just stalling and being uncorperative,
thinking that Dr. Phil will grow tired and settle.


It does seem that way, but I think they'd better think again!  jmo   ::MonkeyWink::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 18, 2011, 12:33:30 AM
Thanks Klaas!   ::MonkeyCool::

Wonder how long it will take for a ruling...

The motions should be denied, this has gone on long enough...I think the lawyers summed it up well; they should not receive yet another continuance!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Hopefully we'll know something soon.


Not sure how long.  I'll check tomorrow and see if anything is there  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 18, 2011, 12:35:12 AM
The Dr. Phil team is only fishing for evidence in the NH case they have no plans on settling or they would have done so long ago.  You cannot defame dirtbags  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on February 18, 2011, 01:21:21 AM
God Bless Dr Phil's Attorney's for all their hard work. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: billb's daughter on February 18, 2011, 01:34:14 AM
TICK TOCK Kalpoes......
Time never stops....end of (your) Days near......
Future Hearings

03/11/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Motion for Summary Judgment ((c/f 1-6-11)**return exhibits to WilliamHaggerty**)

04/04/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Final Status Conference (T/D 4-11-2011)

04/11/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Jury Trial (J/T 25 DAY EST.)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on February 18, 2011, 01:40:14 AM
How's it BillB? ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: billb's daughter on February 18, 2011, 01:47:20 AM
How's it BillB? ::MonkeyDance::
Good Keepthefaith.... ::MonkeyAngel::
I'm encouraged about the Dr. Phil case docs.....Justice for Natalee is now about nailing the perps...I hope it goes to trial and more light is shined on the only remedy left - the bigger picture of the aruban orchestrated cover up...May they all rot in hell......but also face earthly justice until their day with our Maker....


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on February 18, 2011, 01:52:32 AM
How's it BillB? ::MonkeyDance::
Good Keepthefaith.... ::MonkeyAngel::
I'm encouraged about the Dr. Phil case docs.....Justice for Natalee is now about nailing the perps...I hope it goes to trial and more light is shined on the only remedy left - the bigger picture of the aruban orchestrated cover up...May they all rot in hell......but also face earthly justice until their day with our Maker....

All in do time Mr. BillB. I had a great time down in your neck of the woods for the Holiday Bowl. The Gaslamp Quarter is a fantastic area. ::MonkeySlide::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on February 18, 2011, 03:08:04 AM
I don't usually post my thanks to Klaas and Generous Monkey, but I am always
grateful and enjoy reading the court documents. ::MonkeyCool::

It does appear that the Kalpoe attorneys are just stalling and being uncorperative,
thinking that Dr. Phil will grow tired and settle.


Me too, Magnolia! I'd like to add my thanks as well. There won't be a settlement, IMO. I still have some hope that some information helpful to Natalee's family will come out as a result of this case.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: San on February 18, 2011, 06:11:53 AM
I don't usually post my thanks to Klaas and Generous Monkey, but I am always
grateful and enjoy reading the court documents. ::MonkeyCool::

It does appear that the Kalpoe attorneys are just stalling and being uncorperative,
thinking that Dr. Phil will grow tired and settle.


You would think those attorneys would know better.  I hope this goes to court.  They are going to tear those Kalpoes to shreds.

We are waiting for you Kalpoes.  Let's see how smart you are Deepak.  Come and make our day punk.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on February 18, 2011, 08:23:18 AM
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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 18, 2011, 09:55:14 AM
http://blog.cheapoair.com/news/five-fears-every-traveler-faces-before-spring-break.aspx

 ::snipping2::

Being kidnapped abroad: Famous unfortunate criminal cases such as the disappearance of Natalee Holloway gives Spring Break travel a bad reputation. Travels abroad to foreign countries are always a risk, especially for young female travelers. Even if the situation sounds scary, it shouldn't deter those wanting to celebrate Spring Break. Always travel with a group of trustworthy friends and make sure to always stay together if possible. Keep in contact and always be aware of your surroundings. If someone is going to drink, designate a sober individual to make sure everyone is okay and to not trust a stranger for help.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 18, 2011, 10:50:07 AM
 ::MonkeyEek::

http://www.24ora.com/index.php

Show di Jennyree Geerman representando Aruba na Curacao

Friday, 18 February 2011 10:02
Popup video 24ora.com a logra filma e show cu Jennyree Geerman a presenta na Curacao den e International Carnival Queen 2011. Click play pa mira e bunita show. Jennyree a wordo acopanja pa Popcorn Dancers.

http://www.myspace.com/jennygeer

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http://www.facebook.com/people/Jennyree-Geerman/604465251 (http://www.facebook.com/people/Jennyree-Geerman/604465251)
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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 18, 2011, 05:41:01 PM
http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=6321&offId=0  Edit to add ink per texasmom.  MB

1 hora happen | fecha: 18/02/2011 | horario: 17:26

one team special of police owing to as control on bendemento of drugs near of moomba beach

for of diahuebs early in nightfall one team special owing to being form cu several agent policial for so as one control near of moomba beach where bendedornan of drugs is aglomera for so ofrece they mercancia at turistanan.

 ::snipping2::

the accion was at his lugar already cu owing to less enough drugs for of on caya y of the 10 detencion 2 owing to stay deteni for posesion y venta of drugs. till even car owing to being confisca y several person owing to being controla. is being wait for cu the type of controlnan here continua y so fix aruba his imagen for cu turism. if this not sosode soon aruba will can go back cay in the list black of merca.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 18, 2011, 05:42:21 PM

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=6321&offId=0

Papiamentu translation:

1 hora happen | fecha: 18/02/2011 | horario: 17:26

one team special of police owing to as control on bendemento of drugs near of moomba beach

for of diahuebs early in nightfall one team special owing to being form cu several agent policial for so as one control near of moomba beach where bendedornan of drugs is aglomera for so ofrece they mercancia at turistanan.

 ::snipping2::

the accion was at his lugar already cu owing to less enough drugs for of on caya y of the 10 detencion 2 owing to stay deteni for posesion y venta of drugs. till even car owing to being confisca y several person owing to being controla. is being wait for cu the type of controlnan here continua y so fix aruba his imagen for cu turism. if this not sosode soon aruba will can go back cay in the list black of merca.

edit to add link 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 18, 2011, 06:32:30 PM
So they have arrested some locals for selling drugs to turists near Moomba's?  They are worried that it will put a black mark on Aruba?   ::MonkeyHang::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on February 18, 2011, 07:23:41 PM
So they have arrested some locals for selling drugs to turists near Moomba's?  They are worried that it will put a black mark on Aruba?   ::MonkeyHang::

Maybe the arrests of some locals for selling drugs to tourists is just a diversion to take the heat off  the really big drug dealers.  A few local, minor level dealers are arrested then the police and/or gov't officials can say they're cracking down on the drug trade, when in reality, it's all just for show.  The little dealers get nailed to keep the heat off the big ones. 

 Another thought I have is the locals that were arrested selling drugs to tourists may have gotten on the wrong side of the police, government official or possibly the bigger dealers  for failing to pay protection money/kickbacks.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 18, 2011, 09:40:34 PM
Dave Holloway's perspective when he first set foot on the Island was that drug enforcement was a non-issue.

Janet

+++++++

Aruba: The Tragic Untold Story of Natalee Holloway and Corruption in Paradise
by Dave Holloway

Excerpts

Page 9:
  In fact, he (Jacobs) was so confident that she was just partying it up or on drugs that he told us this particular bar would be the best place to find her.  However, he did warn us to watch our drinks very carefully, adding that sometimes people put drugs into them.

Page 10:  While customers must pass by a bouncer at the door, there was no indication that he was stopping anyone from entering. The bar was packed with teenagers doing Jell-O shots and sleazy-looking island boys preying on the beautiful young female tourist ...

I did not want to stay inside, so we hung out around the street corners. In less than two hours, we probably experienced at least ten to fifteen offers from various drug dealers who wanted us to buy from them.

Page 16:  During our daylight searches throughout the island, our group came across many abandoned houses where drug addicts had left razors and other drug paraphernalia. Some were filled with foul smelling odors, feces, urine, cardboard boxes they used as blankets or beds, and general trash. One of those houses was located right next to a fine restaurant near the hotel area and a McDonald’s ...

Several times, people came into the hotel to meet with other locals and an apparent drug deal was taking place. The person would come in to scope out the area prior to doing the deal.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 18, 2011, 09:59:54 PM
Judges response - granted but they need to file papers within 5 days of the 17th:

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on February 18, 2011, 10:25:34 PM
Judges response - granted but they need to file papers within 5 days of the 17th:

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Frustrating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wonder what a "fully executed stipulation" involves!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 18, 2011, 10:44:15 PM
Fully executed stipulation is probably more than the Kalpoe attorneys want to do or they would have done it in the first place.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on February 18, 2011, 10:50:30 PM
Fully executed stipulation is probably more than the Kalpoe attorneys want to do or they would have done it in the first place.  ::MonkeyCool::
I just don't know what all this entails. Is this just a formality or is it a major undertaking?? I sure wish we had a lawyer following along to enlighten us!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on February 18, 2011, 10:55:41 PM
I WANT to believe that the judge is merely extending every possible latitude to the Plaintiffs before a "summary judgment" is awarded to the defendants.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on February 18, 2011, 10:58:43 PM
I found this at lawguru.com  don't know if it is pertinent

 A STIPULATION OF DISCONTINUANCE is an agreement by two or more parties to resolve a lawsuit by agreeing to 'Discontinue' the lawsuit. 'Discontinue' is Lawyer-speak for 'End' and 'Stipulation' is just lawyer-speak for the word 'Agreement'. If a Stipulation of Discontinuance is signed by the parties AND filed with the court where legal action is currently pending, it effectively ends the litigation (lawsuit) between thos parties.


A Stipulation of Discontinuance is nearly always based on the parties having previously executed (signing) a settlement agreement which may or may not be filed together with the Stipulation of Discontinuance.


A 'Stipulation' is commonly referred to as a 'Stip' and is used as both a verb ("Let's Stip it") and a noun ("Sign the Stip").



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on February 18, 2011, 11:09:58 PM
I found this at lawguru.com  don't know if it is pertinent

 A STIPULATION OF DISCONTINUANCE is an agreement by two or more parties to resolve a lawsuit by agreeing to 'Discontinue' the lawsuit. 'Discontinue' is Lawyer-speak for 'End' and 'Stipulation' is just lawyer-speak for the word 'Agreement'. If a Stipulation of Discontinuance is signed by the parties AND filed with the court where legal action is currently pending, it effectively ends the litigation (lawsuit) between thos parties.


A Stipulation of Discontinuance is nearly always based on the parties having previously executed (signing) a settlement agreement which may or may not be filed together with the Stipulation of Discontinuance.


A 'Stipulation' is commonly referred to as a 'Stip' and is used as both a verb ("Let's Stip it") and a noun ("Sign the Stip").


But, this is a stipulation of "continuance" - just the opposite and the defendants are not "stipulating" to it -- so, I'm not sure what this entails!!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on February 18, 2011, 11:14:25 PM
Mags -- we can take this to Musings -- but, I am curious if you have any anecdotes on the status of "our" puppies!!  ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 18, 2011, 11:15:32 PM
This doesn't really answer your question but I thought it interesting:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_stipulated_order_of_continuance

What is a stipulated order of continuance?

A stipulated order of continuance is an order of the court continuing a case (delaying the day when it will be heard) to which both the parties have agreed. Typically one party wants to drag it out as long as possible, because "justice delayed is justice denied". So that party wants it continued as many times as the judge will let them get away with, and the other is screaming to have it heard.




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 18, 2011, 11:16:00 PM
The judge also granted the hearing on defendants motion for summary judgement.  
 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 18, 2011, 11:21:04 PM
Another good link:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.occourts.org%2Fdirectory%2Fcivil%2Flimited-unlimited-civil%2Fcalendars%2Fcivil%2Fgenpolicy%2Ffell%2Fpolicies.pdf&rct=j&q=What%20is%20a%20fully%20executed%20stipulation%20to%20continue%20trial%3F&ei=ZERfTar5J4KclgeDhK39Cw&usg=AFQjCNHyLE1m7F4HS7j86HEGwPpNMtgBVg&cad=rja (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.occourts.org%2Fdirectory%2Fcivil%2Flimited-unlimited-civil%2Fcalendars%2Fcivil%2Fgenpolicy%2Ffell%2Fpolicies.pdf&rct=j&q=What%20is%20a%20fully%20executed%20stipulation%20to%20continue%20trial%3F&ei=ZERfTar5J4KclgeDhK39Cw&usg=AFQjCNHyLE1m7F4HS7j86HEGwPpNMtgBVg&cad=rja)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on February 18, 2011, 11:22:43 PM
This doesn't really answer your question but I thought it interesting:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_stipulated_order_of_continuance

What is a stipulated order of continuance?

A stipulated order of continuance is an order of the court continuing a case (delaying the day when it will be heard) to which both the parties have agreed. Typically one party wants to drag it out as long as possible, because "justice delayed is justice denied". So that party wants it continued as many times as the judge will let them get away with, and the other is screaming to have it heard.



Okay, now I'm confused (again)! Both parties are clearly not "stipulating" here -- did the ruling mean the Defendants must "stipulate" within 5 days or the Plaintiffs? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 18, 2011, 11:28:29 PM
This doesn't really answer your question but I thought it interesting:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_stipulated_order_of_continuance

What is a stipulated order of continuance?

A stipulated order of continuance is an order of the court continuing a case (delaying the day when it will be heard) to which both the parties have agreed. Typically one party wants to drag it out as long as possible, because "justice delayed is justice denied". So that party wants it continued as many times as the judge will let them get away with, and the other is screaming to have it heard.



Okay, now I'm confused (again)! Both parties are clearly not "stipulating" here -- did the ruling mean the Defendants must "stipulate" within 5 days or the Plaintiffs? ::MonkeyConfused::

The Plaintiff is asking for a continuance because they are stalling.  The Defendants do not want a continuance, they want a Summary Judgement.  The just had set a date for the hearing on the Summary Judgement AND the Trial.  Now the judge is saying that he will allow a delay in the trial for 60 days IF the Plaintiff's file the fully executed Stipulation for Continuance. 



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on February 18, 2011, 11:29:32 PM
Another good link:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.occourts.org%2Fdirectory%2Fcivil%2Flimited-unlimited-civil%2Fcalendars%2Fcivil%2Fgenpolicy%2Ffell%2Fpolicies.pdf&rct=j&q=What%20is%20a%20fully%20executed%20stipulation%20to%20continue%20trial%3F&ei=ZERfTar5J4KclgeDhK39Cw&usg=AFQjCNHyLE1m7F4HS7j86HEGwPpNMtgBVg&cad=rja (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.occourts.org%2Fdirectory%2Fcivil%2Flimited-unlimited-civil%2Fcalendars%2Fcivil%2Fgenpolicy%2Ffell%2Fpolicies.pdf&rct=j&q=What%20is%20a%20fully%20executed%20stipulation%20to%20continue%20trial%3F&ei=ZERfTar5J4KclgeDhK39Cw&usg=AFQjCNHyLE1m7F4HS7j86HEGwPpNMtgBVg&cad=rja)
Very helpful!!! The way I read it now is that "counsel" must stipulate within 5 days. Counsel means BOTH sides!! I THINK this mean that the continuance is ONLY granted if Dr. Phil's attorneys agree to it. (That ain't gonna happen!!)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on February 18, 2011, 11:32:17 PM
This doesn't really answer your question but I thought it interesting:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_stipulated_order_of_continuance

What is a stipulated order of continuance?

A stipulated order of continuance is an order of the court continuing a case (delaying the day when it will be heard) to which both the parties have agreed. Typically one party wants to drag it out as long as possible, because "justice delayed is justice denied". So that party wants it continued as many times as the judge will let them get away with, and the other is screaming to have it heard.



Okay, now I'm confused (again)! Both parties are clearly not "stipulating" here -- did the ruling mean the Defendants must "stipulate" within 5 days or the Plaintiffs? ::MonkeyConfused::

The Plaintiff is asking for a continuance because they are stalling.  The Defendants do not want a continuance, they want a Summary Judgement.  The just had set a date for the hearing on the Summary Judgement AND the Trial.  Now the judge is saying that he will allow a delay in the trial for 60 days IF the Plaintiff's file the fully executed Stipulation for Continuance. 


That is how I read it at first -- now, I think the judge was saying "counsel" (meaning both sides!)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 18, 2011, 11:43:08 PM
I think you may be right Wreck!

Edited to add:  This means they have to file by 2/22 which is this Tuesday.  I will continue to watch the court website and post if anything happens.  There probably won't be anything posted on the court website now until next week as I doubt they work the weekend.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on February 18, 2011, 11:46:54 PM
I think you may be right Wreck!

Edited to add:  This means they have to file by 2/22 which is this Tuesday.  I will continue to watch the court website and post if anything happens.  There probably won't be anything posted on the court website now until next week as I doubt they work the weekend.
"5 Court days" -- probably meaning 1 actual week.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on February 18, 2011, 11:48:21 PM
Mags -- we can take this to Musings -- but, I am curious if you have any anecdotes on the status of "our" puppies!!  ::MonkeyCheer4::

Our puppies are a year old yesterday, I think.
My brother saw two of them...Wreck and Peter R. DeVries.. a week or so ago.
They are yuppie puppies in the loft district of Downtown Birmingham.  They are
as big as Hudson now, but not as filled out yet.
I still miss them.  They were a joy.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 18, 2011, 11:48:58 PM
I think you may be right Wreck!

Edited to add:  This means they have to file by 2/22 which is this Tuesday.  I will continue to watch the court website and post if anything happens.  There probably won't be anything posted on the court website now until next week as I doubt they work the weekend.
"5 Court days" -- probably meaning 1 actual week.

Yep you're right.  So I will give them until Friday the 25th since Monday is a holiday.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on February 18, 2011, 11:53:17 PM
Mags -- we can take this to Musings -- but, I am curious if you have any anecdotes on the status of "our" puppies!!  ::MonkeyCheer4::

Our puppies are a year old yesterday, I think.
My brother saw two of them...Wreck and Peter R. DeVries.. a week or so ago.
They are yuppie puppies in the loft district of Downtown Birmingham.  They are
as big as Hudson now, but not as filled out yet.
I still miss them.  They were a joy.
I'm flattered -- but, I hope the new owners re-named them!!  ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on February 18, 2011, 11:59:32 PM
I watched 'The Good Wife" on Tuesday and it was about a defamation law suit.
The lawyers said that you can never prove a defamation lawsuit, because you
have to first prove intent.  The best hope is a settlement.

Dr. Phil won't settle. IMO


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on February 19, 2011, 12:05:46 AM
I watched 'The Good Wife" on Tuesday and it was about a defamation law suit.
The lawyers said that you can never prove a defamation lawsuit, because you
have to first prove intent.  The best hope is a settlement.

Dr. Phil won't settle. IMO
Yes --- you can't defame swine!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 19, 2011, 12:06:50 AM
Peter R. DeVries twitter 

http://twitter.com/peterrdev

Google translation:

 ::snipping2::


Morning travel to a major case to a distant land ... No: Not for Joran!
8:34 PM Feb 15th from web


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 19, 2011, 12:39:05 AM
http://www.aruba.com/news/happenings/14th-annual-carnaval-masquerade-party-march-4-2011/

14th Annual Carnaval Masquerade Party March 4, 2011

Happenings     February 18th, 2011
No comments (RSS 2.0)

The Carnaval season is in full swing with all kinds of events and happenings! You don’t have to march in the Grand Parades to get in touch with your Carnaval persona.
Enjoy the Masquerade Party at Renaissance Convention Center, presented by the Kiwanis Club of Palm Beach, working for good causes on Aruba throughout the year.
 ::snipping2::

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Ben%20Vocking%20King/169065_10150091053017993_748417992_6102699_7888516_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 19, 2011, 02:23:10 AM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_50.jpg)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE,

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/machpicchusteph.jpg)

AND STEPHANY!

 ::MonkeyJustice::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 19, 2011, 09:58:51 AM
http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/27993-turista-ta-bula-y-suicida-for-di-grandeur-of-the-seas-panort-di-aruba.html

Papiamentu translation:

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b.175.125.16777215.0...images.stories.news.2011.februari.feb19.GrandeuroftheSeas-NOLA.jpg)

tourist is fly y suicida for of grandeur or the seas panort of aruba

saturday, 19 february 2011 09:20

one tourist abordo of the crusero grandeur or the seas owing to fly for of the barco cometiendo suicidio. past owing to let one carta behind also. is deal of one tourist among 20 cu 30 year die dad. for of instant cu the informacion owing to enter at once the crusero owing to beat alarma. the crusero owing to end of leave for of curacao y was bayendo another destiny. apparently is panama the will was bayendo. diaranzon the barco crusero here was at aruba. past owing to leave go curacao y now owing to follow his caminda pasando panort of aruba caminda cu the passenger owing to fly for of the barco. what is the motibo exact cu past owing to comete suicidio do not conoci. more bien past owing to let one carta but the contenido do not conoci. 

::snipping2::

saturday morning still was buscando as for her curpa at life or without life.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 19, 2011, 01:37:07 PM
http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6500&Itemid=1

Papiamentu translation:

(http://www.bondia.com/images/stories/2011/FEBRUARY%202011/19/19crucero.jpg)

drama on crucero

saturday, 19 february 2011

oranjestad- yesterday evening for near of 10.20 capitan of the crucero ‘grandeur or the seas’ owing to avisa autoridadnan local c’un passenger of nacionalidad indonesian, owing to fly for of the crucero y for achieve aid in his buskeda. helicopter of tanto police because; of kustwacht owing to bay for her sitio in one buskeda for deal of achieve the tourist.

 ::snipping2::

the crucero was direction for colon, panama.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 19, 2011, 02:19:44 PM
Beth Holloway: International Travel Safety

Tuesday, February 22, 2011 @ 7:00 PM | Appleton, Wisconsin


This is a FREE event for students, parents, educators, and all interested in learning more about safe international travel. Don't miss this special presentation by Beth Holloway.

Missing persons and travel safety will take the spotlight during a visit to the Fox Cities by Beth Holloway. Beth's daughter, Natalee, disappeared in Aruba during a 2005 class trip. Still unsolved, Natalee's highly visible case continues to captivate the nation.  Beth's special evening presentation at FVTC's Appleton campus will focus on the memory and legacy of Natalee, and provide a strong message about ensuring personal safety while traveling internationally.

Event Location

This event is free and open to the public, and will be held at 7:00pm. Registration is not required.

Fox Valley Technical College
Appleton Campus - Room A170 A-D
1825 N. Bluemound Drive
Appleton, WI  54914
Phone:  888-370-1752

<snipped>

http://www.fvtc.edu/public/content.aspx?ID=1238&PID=117


+++++++++


A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

I Feel Such Regret

Page 31:
  Clutching both portraits, Jug and I drive to the private hangar at the far side of the Birmingham airport.  On the way I contact Cingular Wireless and have international calling activated on my cell.  I activate Natalee's too.  If she has hers with her, she can call me now.  If she had had international calling last night, she could have called someone for help.  Why didn't we do this before she left?  I feel such regret.

The Goal of Education

Page 208
:  The goal of education is twofold: to bring a message about personal safety to high-school and college students and to educate travellers.

______

Natalee Holloway Resource Center (NHRC)
http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC

Mayday 360
http://www.mayday360.com/default.aspx


 :smt060



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 19, 2011, 03:05:05 PM
http://www.sportsaruba.com/content/view/5864/26/

DEN UN WEGA HOPI ATRACTIVO TEAM ARUBA A SA DI GANA S.D.V. CU SCORE DI 6-5.           
on Saturday, 12 February 2011
Published in : , Futbol

(http://www.sportsaruba.com/images/stories/noticia/2011/02/Team%20Aruba%202011%20(Custom).JPG)

STA.CRUZ--Diaranzon 9 di Februari 2011 tabata e di 4 wega amistoso di Team Aruba cu ta den full preparación pa nan participación den 2 diferente toernooi na Mei y Juni. Trainer ( Gilberto Spataro ) a traha e sigiente opstelling :
 

David Lacle ( keeper ), Mario da Silva, Shaun Every, Jersey Rivero, Toshiaki Faneyte,
Mateo Tromp, Patrick Lampe, Geoffrey Jacobs, Bryan Dubero, Sander Gottenbos, Jonathan Leest.

Wissels : Randrick Roza, Daimhy Caton, Graig Wever, Klayton Geerman ( keeper ).

Wega a cuminsa cu un ritmo basta halto di parti di Team Aruba y ta asina e prome gol di wega ta cai na favor di Team Aruba. Na di 8m. Aruba ta pone precion riba defensa di SDV y Sander Gottenbos ta kita e bala y un toke suave ta deposita e bala den gol. ( 1-0 )
Pero algo cu casi semper ta pasa nos ta perde concentración y SDV ta tuma un vrijetrap hopi liher y e bala ta kai tras di nos defensa unda e spits ta controla e bala perfectamente pa pasa e bala riba cabes di keeper. ( 1-1 )
Team Aruba a sa di reacciona asina fuerte cu den 10m. ta pone e wega 3-1 na favor di Aruba. Na di 12m. den un contra ataque Mateo Tromp ta wordo tumba y akinan un di nos specialista den vrijetrap Patrick Lampe ta buta e bala unda niun keeper ta jega. ( 2-1 )

 ::snipping2::

Di dos tempo nos ta ripara cu Team Aruba a drenta mas fuerte como resultado cu Sander Gottenbos ta lora e bala den pia di Daimhy Caton pa e wega bira 5-2. Despues di e gol aki Aruba a baha precion y akinan SDV aprobecha esaki lo maximo y hinka 3 gol den solo 20m. y pone e wega 5-5. Trainer Spataro a pone cos na ordo bek y hasi indicacion na su capitan Jonathan Leest pa pone precion atrobe. Por a mira un reaccion dibiaha paso ni 2m. después Daimhy Caton ta score atrobe pa pone e wega 6-5. Depues mucho no a pasa ja cu Aruba a sera bon patras y hunga mas trankil te cu e refree ta fluit final di wega. Asina Team Aruba a gana su di 3 wega y lo sigi cu su preparacionan.

Esnan cu a score :
   Daimhy Caton  2x
   Sander Gottenbos 1x
   Mateo Tromp  1x
   Jonathan Leest  1x
   Patrick Lampe  1x

Un pabien na tur e hungadornan y Technische Staf hopi éxito.



Papiamentu translation:

in one game much atractivo team aruba owing to know of earn s.d.v. cu score of 6-5.

on saturday, 12 february 2011

published in : come across, futbol

sta.cruz--diaranzon 9 of feburary 2011 was the of 4 game amistoso of team aruba cu is in full preparación for they participación in 2 various toernooi at half y june. trainer ( gilberto spataro ) owing to work the sigiente opstelling : david lacle ( keeper ), mario da silva, shaun every, jersey rivero, toshiaki faneyte, mateo tromp, patrick lampe, geoffrey jacobs, bryan dubero, sander gottenbos, jonathan leest. wissels : randrick rose, daimhy caton, graig wever, klayton geerman ( keeper ). game owing to cuminsa cu one rhythm enough high of part of team aruba y is so the first gol of game is cai at favor of team aruba. at of 8m. aruba is place precion on defence of sdv y sander gottenbos is less the ball y one toke suave is deposita the ball in gol. ( 1-0 ) but algo cu casi always is happen we is lose concentración y sdv is take one vrijetrap much liher y the ball is fall behind we defence where the spits is controla the ball perfectamente for happen the ball on cabes of keeper. ( 1-1 ) team aruba owing to know of reacciona so strong cu in 10m. is place the game 3-1 at favor of aruba. at of 12m. in one contra ataque mateo tromp is wordo tumba y akinan one of we specialista in vrijetrap patrick lampe is lay down the ball where niun keeper is jega. ( 2-1 ) 

::snipping2::

of two time we is ripara cu team aruba owing to enter more strong because; result cu sander gottenbos is lora the ball in leg of daimhy caton for her game become 5-2. after of the gol here aruba owing to descend precion y akinan sdv aprobecha this will maximo y hinka 3 gol in sun 20m. y place the game 5-5. trainer spataro owing to place cos at ordo bek y make indicacion at his capitan jonathan leest for place precion again. can owing to see one reaccion dibiaha pace neither 2m. después daimhy caton is score again for place the game 6-5. depues mucho not owing to happen ja cu aruba owing to close good behind y play more trankil till cu the refree is fluit end of game. so team aruba owing to earn his of 3 game y will sigi cu his preparacionan.

esnan cu owing to score :

 daimhy caton 2x
 sander gottenbos 1x
 mateo tromp 1x
 jonathan leest 1x
 patrick lampe 1x
 one pabien at all the hungadornan y technische staf much éxito.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Gottenbos/02122011_TeamAruba_SanderGottenbos.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 19, 2011, 03:25:13 PM
http://sander0122.hyves.nl/profile/

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Gottenbos/02192011_Sander_BrandonvanGijn_Hyvesprofilepic.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on February 19, 2011, 05:49:03 PM
(http://www.bucuticam.com/arubacam.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 19, 2011, 09:10:29 PM
 ::MonkeyAngel::

Please light a candle and say a prayer for Natalee and her family.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=NAH

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Nat%27s


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 19, 2011, 09:32:03 PM
http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/27993-turista-ta-bula-y-suicida-for-di-grandeur-of-the-seas-panort-di-aruba.html

Papiamentu translation:

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b.175.125.16777215.0...images.stories.news.2011.februari.feb19.GrandeuroftheSeas-NOLA.jpg)

tourist is fly y suicida for of grandeur or the seas panort of aruba

saturday, 19 february 2011 09:20

one tourist abordo of the crusero grandeur or the seas owing to fly for of the barco cometiendo suicidio. past owing to let one carta behind also. is deal of one tourist among 20 cu 30 year die dad. for of instant cu the informacion owing to enter at once the crusero owing to beat alarma. the crusero owing to end of leave for of curacao y was bayendo another destiny. apparently is panama the will was bayendo. diaranzon the barco crusero here was at aruba. past owing to leave go curacao y now owing to follow his caminda pasando panort of aruba caminda cu the passenger owing to fly for of the barco. what is the motibo exact cu past owing to comete suicidio do not conoci. more bien past owing to let one carta but the contenido do not conoci. 

::snipping2::

saturday morning still was buscando as for her curpa at life or without life.

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/27993-turista-ta-bula-y-suicida-for-di-grandeur-of-the-seas-panort-di-aruba.html

Papiamentu translation:
 ::snipping2::


COMMENTS:

comentarionan (3) mustra/kita comentarionan come across...

scirbi for bad-karma, february 19, 2011
ultimamente much tourist is hoga or fight or now comete suicidio hour they're at aruba or tbt recien at aruba. even 'karma' is feel cu we owing to become one island of pika, of corrupcion, of fornicacion, of abuse, of enganjo y drugs. immidiately reflexiona. +0 come across...

scirbi for anonymous, february 19, 2011
just for show, aruba have one enough good national security system. -1 come across...

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 19, 2011, 09:34:47 PM
KARMA


(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/joran.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 19, 2011, 11:05:35 PM
ABSOLUTELY Klaas!

There's a 24ora article today where one of Nelson Oduber's son's (Glenson) is yacking about something, frankly I really didn't even care enough to try to figure out exactly what, lol.  But in the comments someone referred to what I think may have been the girl(s) that was/were raped and asked if he was a psycho like Joran van der Sloot part 1.

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/28000-glenson-oduber-niun-hende-por-silenciami.html

I snipped 2 of the 40 comments:

scirbi for ethan, february 19, 2011
dude come across, shut up alread and mean im american and have been living here for more than 20 years and im tired or all the bs that you and your bald father have been dishing out lately. one advise son go find owing to new hobby, in fact you and your dad can go to anger management for all and care peace +7 come across...

scirbi for less the spectacles ey, february 19, 2011
hahahahaahahahahahaaha much very pret awo you have become pujito, tanto mouth big look at con you have become awo come across.bai bek in do you pasado y just corda kico owing to happen cu the child muhe cubo owing to beat y after of the mature here do you parents owing to core sake the child muhe here for of aruba y door cu the not tawata aruban the not can owing to make nothing for can owing to defende his self. are you same psycho cu joran van der sloot but part 1 y awo do you wanted come play cubo not owing to break one kopi never!!!!!. +13 come across...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1069.580;wap2

Rob posted this in 2007

Quote
The info I have is that Chito is about 26 and has two allegations against him. These could be two separate incidents or two involving the same person.

He is a professional surfer and Gleason Oduber appears to be the manger of the surf team. Gleason could be the brother of Nelson Sr. I think he is.

One allegation against Chito is the alleged rape of a family maid. I do not know how accurate that is. It might not be accurate at all.

The second allegation involves the rape of an old girlfriend (possibly an American that has left the island or an Aruban woman who has left the island, either way the woman left the island) and these charges were either never pursued or the initial charges progressed and the fix was put in.

Paulus Van Der Sloot would have still been in the prosecutors office when this occurred and he would have had intimate knowledge of these charges and could have used them to blackmail people in the MEP and others. Remember the election was right around the corner and this would have killed the MEP if it was known that an Oduber son got preferential treatment.


Just because...lol

http://www.arubachamber.com/registry/registry_result.afp?KeyValue=36669


Close · Aruba, February 19th, 2011


Only valid if accordingly signed by the Aruba Chamber of Commerce & Industry - J.E. Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 9 OCTOBER 2006 under serial number 35403.0 is the company with the tradename:

 
ARUBA SURF ASOCIACION - ARUSURF
 
Business address   NAYOSTRAAT 5, ORANJESTAD WEST
Legal form   ASSOCIATION
Name of the   ARUBA SURF ASOCIACION - ARUSURF
company/foundation/association:
Statutory seat   ARUBA
Date of   1 APRIL 1995
incorporation/commencement:
    
 
BOARD MEMBERS/AUTHORIZED PERSONS

BARAKAT, HASSAN;
Born in   LIBANON, TRIPOLI on 2 FEBRUARY 1966
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   PRESIDENT
Effective   9 OCTOBER 2006
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
ODUBER, GLENSON SANDER URBAN;
Born in   ARUBA on 20 JUNE 1975
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   VICE-PRESIDENT-DIRECTOR/TREASURER
Effective   9 OCTOBER 2006
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
BARAKAT, SALEH IBRAHIM;
Born in   LIBANON, TRIPOLI on 1 JULY 1971
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR/COMMISSIONER
Effective   9 OCTOBER 2006
 
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY

A. HET OPTREDEN ALS MOEDERORGANISATIE C.Q. FEDERATIE VOOR BESTAANDE EN NOG TE VORMEN SURF- EN BODYBOARD VERENIGINGEN;
B. HET SCHEPPEN VAN VOORWAARDEN OPDAT DE SURF- EN BODY-BOARD SPORT - ZOWEL ALS COMPETITIESPORT ALS WELL AS VORM VAN VRIJETIJDSBESTEDING - WORDT BEVORDERD;
C. HETORGANISEREN VAN SURF- EN BODY-BOARD COMPETITIES EN - WEDSTRIJDEN.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 19, 2011, 11:14:55 PM
KARMA


(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/joran.jpg)


Voice of Natalee

'Scarborough Country' for Oct. 24th
updated 7:06 a.m. PT, Tues., Oct. 25, 2005


<snippped>

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: I have told Prime Minister Oduber that I will do this, I will be the voice of Natalee for the next 40 years. And I hope I have that long, because I will do it as long as I can.

<snippped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9813596/


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 19, 2011, 11:21:57 PM
Demand and Expect

'The Abrams Report' for July 1
updated 7/6/2005 10:47:38 AM ET


<snipped>

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER:  We cannot forget to demand and expect to have Natalee. Natalee deserves to return to her country. She deserves it, and everyone knows it, every single person. Every single person knows that. They know it.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8485029/


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on February 19, 2011, 11:45:47 PM
I've been missing 2NJ.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 19, 2011, 11:59:23 PM
I've been missing 2NJ.

Me too!  I'm worried about her, hope she's o.k.!   :smt090


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 20, 2011, 12:07:03 AM
I've been missing 2NJ.

Me too!  I'm worried about her, hope she's o.k.!   :smt090

We all miss her and hope she's ok.  San and I are doing our best to try and contact her. 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 20, 2011, 12:25:26 AM
Wonder if Anita is in DC too?
Nah on second thought, the chaperone would probably do a better job of making sure Sebas behaves himself.
 
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=127885713948638

Leo's 16th Birthday
Share · Public Event
Time   
Saturday, February 19 · 7:00pm - 11:00pm
Location   
B71 Seroe Colorado (The Colony)
Created By   
Leo Aguirre
Wall

Leo Aguirre  All ready for Saturday;D

(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/182805_155260014529787_100001373692245_260943_4696276_s.jpg)

Thursday at 3:53pm · Share
 ::snipping2::

Jurgen Van Schaijk goin to be in dc :C
February 6 at 9:49am · Like ·

Leo Aguirre NO!
February 6 at 3:34pm · Like

Roger Maduro  sorry amigo, gonna be in dc then :(
February 5 at 10:52pm · Like ·

Leo Aguirre ‎:C
February 6 at 3:34pm · Like

Leo Aguirre Who's all in MUN?
February 6 at 3:35pm · Like

Roger Maduro Bram, sebas, jurgen, aby, mr q, & I
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Maurice De L'Isle Don't think mr. Q is invited.. XD
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 ::snipping2::

http://naimun.modelun.org/

http://naimun.modelun.org/hotel


 ::MonkeyWink::

http://naimun.modelun.org/files/Delegate%20Code%20of%20Conduct.pdf



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 20, 2011, 12:26:36 AM
I've been missing 2NJ.

Me too!  I'm worried about her, hope she's o.k.!   :smt090

We all miss her and hope she's ok.  San and I are doing our best to try and contact her. 

Thanks Klaas and San!   ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on February 20, 2011, 12:31:57 AM
I've been missing 2NJ.

Me too!  I'm worried about her, hope she's o.k.!   :smt090

We all miss her and hope she's ok.  San and I are doing our best to try and contact her. 

Thanks Klaas and San!   ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyAngel::


That 2NJ....probably off on a cruise!  Thanks for checking on her.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 20, 2011, 12:34:03 AM
http://naimun.modelun.org/
 ::snipping2::

It is our distinct pleasure to introduce the forty-eighth session of the North American Invitational Model United Nations (NAIMUN), which will be held February 17-20, 2011 in Washington, D.C.
 ::snipping2::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 20, 2011, 04:04:03 AM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_50.jpg)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE,

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/machpicchusteph.jpg)

AND STEPHANY!

 ::MonkeyJustice::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on February 20, 2011, 04:17:16 AM
Fully executed stipulation is probably more than the Kalpoe attorneys want to do or they would have done it in the first place.  ::MonkeyCool::
I just don't know what all this entails. Is this just a formality or is it a major undertaking?? I sure wish we had a lawyer following along to enlighten us!

I found this helpful when trying to understand "fully executed stipulation". Maybe you guys will too. It's from an actual case but the content seems to say that basically, the process of dotting all the "i's" and crossing all the "t's" has to be done or the hearing date stays on the calendar. The continuance was granted pending the Kalpoe Attys doing the paperwork and doing it correctly. JMO.


COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPEALS OFFICE
Please remember that any communication with the Appeals Office that is by e-mail, letter or facsimile must demonstrate that all concerned parties have been copied on the communication. When you respond to an e-mail from counsel or the Appeals Office, please make sure that you send your transmission with “Reply to All” so that all parties, counsel and the Appeals Office knows that everyone has received the communication. This is particularly important when the Appeals Office sends proposed dates to reschedule a hearing. Failure to do so when removing a case from the stacked calendar or submitting a stipulation to continue a hearing may result in the case remaining on the calendar.


http://hearings.state.nv.us/Documents/Memo%20to%20Attorneys%20&%20Secretaries.pdf


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: San on February 20, 2011, 10:24:16 AM
Look who our favorite lawyer is protecting now:

'Rape' cop in 'confession'
Victim wears wire to nab 'fiend' after cry to pal: 'It was the police!'


By BRAD HAMILTON

Quote
Prosecutors have been going over the evidence with Moreno's lawyer, Joseph Tacopina, and Mata's attorney, Edward Mandery, laying out the bulk of their case.

"I'm very confident my client will be acquitted," Tacopina said.

 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/rape_cop_in_confession_H1vFwkDqjqFxqMnEcV1y3I#ixzz1EVrarHFX


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 20, 2011, 10:38:51 AM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

He said it was a game that caused him to shoot his friend in the head and kill him.  They never recovered the actual weapon, he shouldn't have had a weapon in the first place; and they didn't buy his story...so he was sentenced to 4 years!  wow

http://www.diario.aw/2011/02/castigo-di-4-ana-pa-homber-cu-a-bisa-cu-den-wega-el-a-tira-su-amigo-mata/

Papiamentu translation:

castigo of 4 year, for man cu owing to tell cu in game past owing to throw his amigo kill

publication: saturday, 19 feburary 2011.

categoria: general

oranjestad (aan): diabierna jair m.j.r owing to present fast of huez, for her hear the veredicto of huez in his caso. past owing to worde acusa of less life of francis gomez, door of tire at his cabez cu arm of candela, on 28 of june 2010. apart from this past owing to worde acusa of posesion of arm of candela without have permission of minister of husticia. the caso did take lugar day 4 of feburary. in the rapport of police was have stop cu police owing to ricibi melding on day 28 night, cu one person owing to worde take away for hospital y cu the person owing to fayece door of injury of ball. hour police owing to arrive at hospital, they owing to come across also cu jair r., that is esun cu owing to hibe for hospital. jair owing to tell cu thing owing to sosode was one game cu owing to bay robez y cu the will not talk more till hour cu the achieve one advocate. police owing to haci test on hands of the victima y the sospechoso for look at if they owing to employ one arm of candela. the result of the test owing to show cu have indicacion cu tanto the victima because; the sospechoso owing to throw cu one arm of candela. jair owing to count ; police cu the was cu his amigo francis y cu some time first they owing to cumpra one arm, because they was feel they self for person y police on caya. at dado instant according jair, francis owing to place arm at barica of jair y owing to press the gatiyo without cu the arm owing to throw. according jair, this was in form of joke y past owing to coi the arm y past owing to bay haci same joke of press gatiyo of the arm y this owing to los one tiro in cabez of francis. jair owing to splica cu past owing to spanta y owing to take away francis at once for hospital. 

::snipping2::

huez owing to ask about parents of the victima if they was wanted owing to entrega one demanda contra the sospechoso y they owing to tell cu not. pareha of the difunto niether owing to dicidi of entrega one demanda. huez owing to ask about the parents if they wanted owing to tell algo more y the hour ey the father owing to tell cu unique cos cu the can tell is cu past owing to lose his two child hombernan y cu this is algo much dificil. fiscal owing to tell cu mirando the injury at cabez of the victima, the arm have to was close of his cabez. according fiscal, polisnan owing to achieve one arm, but the arm ey not was the arm cu owing to worde employ. past owing to splica cu the arm self never owing to worde achieve. fiscal if is achieve cu is intencionalmente jair owing to throw francis. fiscal owing to exigi one castigo incondicional of 4 year. diabierna huez owing to give one splicacion for indica dikon the is think cu the incidente not owing to bay as cu the acusado owing to tell. huez then was convenci cu the acusado owing to lie. past owing to dicidi of bay of acuerdo cu exigencia of fiscal y owing to dune one castigo incondicional of 4 year.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 20, 2011, 10:50:26 AM
Look who our favorite lawyer is protecting now:

'Rape' cop in 'confession'
Victim wears wire to nab 'fiend' after cry to pal: 'It was the police!'


By BRAD HAMILTON

Quote
Prosecutors have been going over the evidence with Moreno's lawyer, Joseph Tacopina, and Mata's attorney, Edward Mandery, laying out the bulk of their case.

"I'm very confident my client will be acquitted," Tacopina said.

 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/rape_cop_in_confession_H1vFwkDqjqFxqMnEcV1y3I#ixzz1EVrarHFX


 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

Moreno, then a 17-year veteran

After admitting the CRIME...

Moreno: “If you stop drinking, I’ll be your boyfriend. I’m not a bad man. I’m a good friend to have.”

Yep, that's the kind of scum Joe represents.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: San on February 20, 2011, 11:08:29 AM
Look who our favorite lawyer is protecting now:

'Rape' cop in 'confession'
Victim wears wire to nab 'fiend' after cry to pal: 'It was the police!'


By BRAD HAMILTON

Quote
Prosecutors have been going over the evidence with Moreno's lawyer, Joseph Tacopina, and Mata's attorney, Edward Mandery, laying out the bulk of their case.

"I'm very confident my client will be acquitted," Tacopina said.

 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/rape_cop_in_confession_H1vFwkDqjqFxqMnEcV1y3I#ixzz1EVrarHFX


 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

Moreno, then a 17-year veteran

After admitting the CRIME...

Moreno: “If you stop drinking, I’ll be your boyfriend. I’m not a bad man. I’m a good friend to have.”

Yep, that's the kind of scum Joe represents.


Exactly TM.  Wasn't it just nice of this rapist to say if you stop drinking I will be your boyfriend.  What a sick individual.

I hope the lighter they found under her bed had his fingerprints on it.  You know Joe Tacopina will flip that around and say it fell out of his pocket while he was trying to help her to her bed.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 20, 2011, 12:39:02 PM
Look who our favorite lawyer is protecting now:

'Rape' cop in 'confession'
Victim wears wire to nab 'fiend' after cry to pal: 'It was the police!'


By BRAD HAMILTON

Quote
Prosecutors have been going over the evidence with Moreno's lawyer, Joseph Tacopina, and Mata's attorney, Edward Mandery, laying out the bulk of their case.

"I'm very confident my client will be acquitted," Tacopina said.

 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/rape_cop_in_confession_H1vFwkDqjqFxqMnEcV1y3I#ixzz1EVrarHFX


 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

Moreno, then a 17-year veteran

After admitting the CRIME...

Moreno: “If you stop drinking, I’ll be your boyfriend. I’m not a bad man. I’m a good friend to have.”

Yep, that's the kind of scum Joe represents.


Exactly TM.  Wasn't it just nice of this rapist to say if you stop drinking I will be your boyfriend.  What a sick individual.

I hope the lighter they found under her bed had his fingerprints on it.  You know Joe Tacopina will flip that around and say it fell out of his pocket while he was trying to help her to her bed.

I agree San, and there's no telling what else this guy has done that made him feel confident enough to go back to the woman's apartment TWICE in the commission of the crime!  Thank goodness for video camera surveillance!  He hired Tacopina because he knows the evidence is going to put him away for a long time with many new "boyfriends" of his own...so he's desperate for someone to twist the facts to his favor to try to get him out of this without a prison sentence.  And we all know Joe's the best at twisting the facts or just flat out lying...whatever it takes.

jmo




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: San on February 20, 2011, 01:34:57 PM
Look who our favorite lawyer is protecting now:

'Rape' cop in 'confession'
Victim wears wire to nab 'fiend' after cry to pal: 'It was the police!'


By BRAD HAMILTON

Quote
Prosecutors have been going over the evidence with Moreno's lawyer, Joseph Tacopina, and Mata's attorney, Edward Mandery, laying out the bulk of their case.

"I'm very confident my client will be acquitted," Tacopina said.

 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/rape_cop_in_confession_H1vFwkDqjqFxqMnEcV1y3I#ixzz1EVrarHFX


 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

Moreno, then a 17-year veteran

After admitting the CRIME...

Moreno: “If you stop drinking, I’ll be your boyfriend. I’m not a bad man. I’m a good friend to have.”

Yep, that's the kind of scum Joe represents.


Exactly TM.  Wasn't it just nice of this rapist to say if you stop drinking I will be your boyfriend.  What a sick individual.

I hope the lighter they found under her bed had his fingerprints on it.  You know Joe Tacopina will flip that around and say it fell out of his pocket while he was trying to help her to her bed.

I agree San, and there's no telling what else this guy has done that made him feel confident enough to go back to the woman's apartment TWICE in the commission of the crime!  Thank goodness for video camera surveillance!  He hired Tacopina because he knows the evidence is going to put him away for a long time with many new "boyfriends" of his own...so he's desperate for someone to twist the facts to his favor to try to get him out of this without a prison sentence.  And we all know Joe's the best at twisting the facts or just flat out lying...whatever it takes.

jmo

Ain't that the truth.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 20, 2011, 01:42:02 PM
http://www.clickonaruba.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=748

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/02192011.jpg)



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 20, 2011, 01:45:57 PM
http://www.clickonaruba.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=748

Saturday Nite Feb. 19 Southbeach/Kokomo's/Confession/Upstairs

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/02192011.jpg)



edit to add album title


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 20, 2011, 03:09:00 PM
http://www.coolaruba.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1686444

Carnaval Flip Flop Beach Party @ The Village

Luis Betancourt on the right

(http://www.coolaruba.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1686445&g2_serialNumber=3)

http://www.coolaruba.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1685445

Kawish Misier

(http://www.coolaruba.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1685446&g2_serialNumber=3)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 20, 2011, 03:25:49 PM
http://www.coolaruba.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1685140

Confessions Nightclub 12Feb 2011

Kawish Misier

(http://www.coolaruba.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1685364&g2_serialNumber=3)

(http://www.coolaruba.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1685355&g2_serialNumber=3)

(http://www.coolaruba.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1685343&g2_serialNumber=3)

(http://www.coolaruba.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1685340&g2_serialNumber=3)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 20, 2011, 03:58:14 PM
He either didn't much about Aruba's health care, or Bonaire is really really bad too!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/28022-air-ambulance-a-yega-aruba-cu-pasahero-morto.html

air ambulance owing to arrive aruba cu passenger dead

sunday, 20 february 2011 15:07

one avioneta "air ambulance" owing to ateriza today for more or less 3:10pm procedente of boneiro cu one passenger dead abordo. is deal here of one victima of hincamento at boneiro cu owing to opta for trece aruba at once for ricibi tratamento medico specialisa, but alas the victima not owing to succeed sobrebibi during the buelo of emergencia. 

::snipping2::

the victima is jose luis romero ramirez, naci at republica dominicana day 20 of august 1974 live by year 2009 at boneiro. fiscal mr. zondervan of aruba owing to bay aeropuerto for place his self at height of the situation regrettable here. probably will have to take away the restonan deadly bek for boneiro for follow cu the investigacion, already cu the caso did take lugar eynan self.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 20, 2011, 04:04:35 PM
http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/28021-riot-comando-a-drenta-kia-.html

Papiamentu translation:

riot comando owing to enter kia

sunday, 20 february 2011 15:06

algo happen of 3or of nightfall, polisnan of the "mobiele eenheid" owing to enter kia for reestablece ordo again in the institute coreccional. owing to ask asistencia of "materialenwagen" of brandweer for her polisnan can lever y arrive till on roof. have 7 preso protestando contra decision of corte y did take roof of jail over.

 ::snipping2::
(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1....images.stories.news.2011.februari.feb20.KIA.IMG_2865.JPG)

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1....images.stories.news.2011.februari.feb20.KIA.kia-01.JPG)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 20, 2011, 05:22:31 PM
Is it just me or does it seem like every time Alex Matthews is in Kia there's trouble there  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 20, 2011, 06:15:17 PM
Is it just me or does it seem like every time Alex Matthews is in Kia there's trouble there  ::MonkeyCool::

 :smt045

Aruba knows it too, remember they took him to Bonaire first.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8277.msg1203426#msg1203426
http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_76393.php
 ::snipping2::
As a precaution to avoid problems and Mathew was flown to Bonaire where he currently resides in prison, pending the further course of the investigation. Not only because of the "friendly contacts" but also because of the aggressive history of Mathew. He was previously convicted of violent crimes in 2001 and spent the interim director Ben King KIA serious bodily injury. "He obviously has problems with Aruban authorities for his bad decisions," said Jaap Zondervan officer.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 20, 2011, 06:26:29 PM
http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-kara-kopetsky-case-featured-tvshow-2011220,0,1812189.story

Family Wants to Keep Case in the Spotlight

(http://*BLOCKED*/media/alternatethumbnails/story/2011-02/59582211-20150609-400225.jpg)


FOX 4 Web Producer
February 20, 2011

BELTON, Mo. — One metro couple hopes a new television series will help keep their story in the national spotlight. The parents of missing teen Kara Kopetsky will soon appear on a television show called "Vanished" on the Lifetime Network.

The television series "Vanished" will be hosted by Beth Holloway, the mother of Natalie Holloway who turned up missing in Aruba nearly six years ago. Holloway was 18-years-old at the time of her disappearance. Kopetsky was 17-years-old when she disappeared. But the parallels between these two teens runs much deeper than that.

Kopetksy's mom, Rhonda Beckrod says there's a person of interest involved in both cases. Both girls were high school seniors when they disappeared. Kopetsky's favorite color was purple and so was Holloway's.

"She actually asked me what I had done with Kara's room," Beckford said. "I told her I'd kept it the same. So I asked her if you don't mind telling me, what have you done with Natalie's?"

Beth Holloway has a special room for her daughter too. Kopetsky's stepfather Jim Beckford says Beth Holloway thanked them for all they've done in their search for their daughter.

"People we don't know have enveloped Kara with their love," said Jim Beckford. "I said she's not just our daughter. She's everyone's daughter just like Natalie."

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 20, 2011, 08:09:40 PM
O/T I started a special "get well" thread for 2NJ.  We still don't know what's wrong but we have tried calling and emailing and no answer.  I'm assuming that she's in the hospital.  I have her address so if people want to leave get well wishes for her I'll print them out and send to her home in a card.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9480.0


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 20, 2011, 09:15:03 PM
Thanks Klaas!   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 21, 2011, 12:27:07 AM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_50.jpg)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE,

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/machpicchusteph.jpg)

AND STEPHANY!

 ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 21, 2011, 09:46:44 AM
http://**/news/localnews/2011/02/20/mother-of-missing-student-to-speak-at-sa-23.php

Mother of missing student to speak at SAU Tech in Camden
By: Tammy Frazier - -   Published: 02/20/2011

CAMDEN - With the recent appearance by television news personality Ed Gordon for its Black History Celebration 2011 event of Feb. 15, Southern Arkansas University Tech in East Camden raised the bar for guest speakers in the area. And so will SAU Tech’s next scheduled speaker: A mother who travels the globe speaking about personal safety - Beth Holloway, mother of Natalee Holloway.

The event will be held at 7 p.m. on Monday, March 14, at the Charles O. Ross Center in Camden as part of SAU Tech’s Distinguished Speaker Series. Complimentary tickets are now available by contacting the ...

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 21, 2011, 11:08:13 AM
http://**/news/localnews/2011/02/20/mother-of-missing-student-to-speak-at-sa-23.php

Mother of missing student to speak at SAU Tech in Camden
By: Tammy Frazier - -   Published: 02/20/2011

CAMDEN - With the recent appearance by television news personality Ed Gordon for its Black History Celebration 2011 event of Feb. 15, Southern Arkansas University Tech in East Camden raised the bar for guest speakers in the area. And so will SAU Tech’s next scheduled speaker: A mother who travels the globe speaking about personal safety - Beth Holloway, mother of Natalee Holloway.

The event will be held at 7 p.m. on Monday, March 14, at the Charles O. Ross Center in Camden as part of SAU Tech’s Distinguished Speaker Series. Complimentary tickets are now available by contacting the ...

 ::snipping2::


Thanks Klaas

Janet

++++++

2011 SAU Tech Distinguished Speaker

<snipped>

Sandy Neely

For your free tickets you can email me at sneely@sautech.edu, call me at 870.574.4521, or come by The Extended Education Office that is located on the main campus at SAU Tech in the Administration Building 2nd floor Room AD250. I will need to know the number of tickets you would like and your address. Sitting is limited, and if for so...me unforeseen reason you're unable to attend this event, we ask that you please pass your tickets on to someone else. Ms. Holloway will have a book signing after the event if you’re interested in purchasing her book.

On behalf of SAU Tech and The Extended Education Office, we thank you for your interest.

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=139753542751441&index=1


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 21, 2011, 11:11:17 AM
Beth Holloway: International Travel Safety

Tuesday, February 22, 2011 @ 7:00 PM | Appleton, Wisconsin


This is a FREE event for students, parents, educators, and all interested in learning more about safe international travel. Don't miss this special presentation by Beth Holloway.

Missing persons and travel safety will take the spotlight during a visit to the Fox Cities by Beth Holloway. Beth's daughter, Natalee, disappeared in Aruba during a 2005 class trip. Still unsolved, Natalee's highly visible case continues to captivate the nation.  Beth's special evening presentation at FVTC's Appleton campus will focus on the memory and legacy of Natalee, and provide a strong message about ensuring personal safety while traveling internationally.

Event Location

This event is free and open to the public, and will be held at 7:00pm. Registration is not required.

Fox Valley Technical College
Appleton Campus - Room A170 A-D
1825 N. Bluemound Drive
Appleton, WI  54914
Phone:  888-370-1752

<snipped>

http://www.fvtc.edu/public/content.aspx?ID=1238&PID=117


+++++++++


A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

I Feel Such Regret

Page 31:
  Clutching both portraits, Jug and I drive to the private hangar at the far side of the Birmingham airport.  On the way I contact Cingular Wireless and have international calling activated on my cell.  I activate Natalee's too.  If she has hers with her, she can call me now.  If she had had international calling last night, she could have called someone for help.  Why didn't we do this before she left?  I feel such regret.

The Goal of Education

Page 208
:  The goal of education is twofold: to bring a message about personal safety to high-school and college students and to educate travellers.

______

Natalee Holloway Resource Center (NHRC)
http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC

Mayday 360
http://www.mayday360.com/default.aspx

 :smt060



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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 21, 2011, 03:48:42 PM
http://www.onlocationvacations.com/2011/02/21/set-reports-from-justice-for-natalee-hound-dogs-in-new-orleans/ (http://www.onlocationvacations.com/2011/02/21/set-reports-from-justice-for-natalee-hound-dogs-in-new-orleans/)

Set Reports from ‘Justice For Natalee’ & ‘Hound Dogs’ in New Orleans

by Christine on February 21, 2011 · 0 comments

in News,On Location Photos

 ::snipping2::

For the scene I appeared in for Justice For Natalee, we shot on Saturday, Feb. 12th. It was set in Aruba and I was assigned to be a cameraman. We were filming at the Gretna Courthouse and they had other extras walking around as tourists as we were filming. Tracy Pollan (who is married to Michael J. Fox) plays Natalee Holloway’s mother, Beth Twitty.

After that scene finished at around 11 A.M., we changed into our second wardrobe choice to play FBI Agents for the next few hours, I had a gun and a badge! I was pretending to get cash out of the ATM Machine with confidential files in my hand outside of the building, which by the way was in Birmingham, Al. Then I was walking into the FBI Building with another extra while drinking coffee and pretending to talk while Tracy Pollan and Michael Beach (who plays her lawyer) were outside talking.

After a catered lunch, we filmed again between 3-8 P.M. I was a cameraman again because the actor playing Joran van der Sloot, Natalee’s suspected killer, was being brought into the FBI Building in handcuffs and we were supposed to swarm them and take pictures.

 ::snipping2::





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on February 21, 2011, 05:29:08 PM
Translated

Coast Guard for the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba Sunday, February 20, 2011

Coastguard coordinate search for swimmer The Rescue and Coordination Centre (RCC) of the Coast Guard of the Kingdom of the Netherlands in the Caribbean was on Friday a report of the cruise ship "Grandeur of the Seas" that a crew member on board had fallen. The ship was at that time, eight miles north of Aruba.

Last Friday around 23.00 hours there was a message to the RCC in the Coast Guard of the cruise ship "Grandeur of the Seas" Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines. A crew member fell overboard was about 8 miles north of Aruba. SuperRHIB a Panther and the Coast Guard cutter, along with the helicopter of the Aruba Police Force (KPA), a unit of the volunteer rescue organization SARFA, and the Lynx helicopter from the frigate HMS ship station Rotterdam, tore a search immediately for stroke, but in the dark it is extremely difficult for a person to find. After 04.00 hours it was decided to resume the search at dawn. The Dash-8, maritime patrol aircraft of the Coast Guard is deployed, and vessels in the vicinity were asked to look into the drowning. Unfortunately, after the great effort and good cooperation of the above organizations, the person could not be found and the search was around 16.00 hours on Saturday afternoon, was canceled. He is probably deceased.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.nieuwsbank.nl/inp/2011/02/21/V027.htm


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 21, 2011, 06:51:56 PM
http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/27993-turista-ta-bula-y-suicida-for-di-grandeur-of-the-seas-panort-di-aruba.html

Papiamentu translation:

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b.175.125.16777215.0...images.stories.news.2011.februari.feb19.GrandeuroftheSeas-NOLA.jpg)

tourist is fly y suicida for of grandeur or the seas panort of aruba

saturday, 19 february 2011 09:20

one tourist abordo of the crusero grandeur or the seas owing to fly for of the barco cometiendo suicidio. past owing to let one carta behind also. is deal of one tourist among 20 cu 30 year die dad. for of instant cu the informacion owing to enter at once the crusero owing to beat alarma. the crusero owing to end of leave for of curacao y was bayendo another destiny. apparently is panama the will was bayendo. diaranzon the barco crusero here was at aruba. past owing to leave go curacao y now owing to follow his caminda pasando panort of aruba caminda cu the passenger owing to fly for of the barco. what is the motibo exact cu past owing to comete suicidio do not conoci. more bien past owing to let one carta but the contenido do not conoci. 

::snipping2::

saturday morning still was buscando as for her curpa at life or without life.

 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyConfused::

If only one person went overboard, the story sure has changed.  If I understood correctly this one had it as a "tourist" that jumped overboard, and left a note...but they didn't know what the note said.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 21, 2011, 07:36:23 PM
http://amigoenieuws.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3684:veiligheid-kia-niet-optimaal&catid=151:artikel-headline-aruba&Itemid=200

Google translation:

(http://amigoenieuws.com/images/stories/19-02-2011/367461.jpg)

"Safety is not optimal KIA"

Monday, 21 February 2011 6:59 p.m.

ORANGE CITY - There are places in the correction Institute Aruba (KIA) which can not directly Justice to act quickly. This gave the Minister of Justice and Education, Arthur Dower (AVP), stated this morning after yesterday's eight prisoners climbed the roof of the prison in protest.

The Minister discussed the situation in the prison in recent years developed into one where "prisoners can abuse certain circumstances. He indicates that there is already a report about the insecurity in KIA. "While doing the management and staff of the prison their best to prison to run optimally. But there are certainly places in the prison where justice can not directly involved to take action, "he said. He expects to receive today a report on how a group of eight prisoners on the roof of KIA was entitled to come.

Yesterday morning around nine hours the message came in that a number of prisoners on the roof of the prison had come. The rest of the prisoners had thus returned to their cells as a precaution. Staff at the prison, but negotiators from the police, the group of eight prisoners could not get off the roof. The mobile unit and the fire brigade were deployed. With firefighting equipment on the roof, the officers went after the prisoners, armed with sticks and blocks, were sprayed with a spray fire. Once on the roof of the riot police have solved a number of warning shots. The prisoners were eventually overpowered. The situation in prison is under control, assures the minister that says not to know who is behind the uprising.
 ::snipping2::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 21, 2011, 07:50:31 PM
I think they DO know who is behind the uprising...  ::MonkeyWink::

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/28101-edwardo-mathew-ta-keha-gobierno-na-mundo.html

Papiamentu translation:

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b.175.125.16777215.0...images.stories.news.2010.december.dec16.matthew.jpg)

edwardo mathew is complain gobierno at world

monday, 21 february 2011 19:21

the conocido detenido edwardo “alex” mathew owing to complain gobierno of aruba y polisnan for abuse fisico contra detenidonan yesterday in kia. seems cu the comision of detenidonan in kia not owing to aprecia the form bruto con the team of “mobiele eenheid” of police owing to mobilisa yesterday at instant of reestablece ordo in the institute.

 ::snipping2::

Commission for the Detainees
Institute Coreccional Nacional (ICN/KIA)
Santo di Patia 1
Aruba

February 21, 2011

Court of Justice of Aruba
Wayaca 33E
Aruba

ATTN: The Honorable Judges of Instruction:
 The Honorable Judge Angela
 The Honorable Judge J.F. Haeck
 The Honorable Judge Yarzagaray

RE: KIA DETAINEES-PHYSICAL ABUSE ON FEB. 20, 2011

Dear Honorable Judges of Instruction:

We the Commission for the Detainees at the ICN/KIA write to inform you of the
following:

As a result of the continued abuse against us at the hands of the ICN/KIA and the Aruban
Government, some of the people whom are tired of sleeping in the rain and having our
basic human rights dictated by law and international standards and treaties, violated and
trampled on, participated in a protest within this facility yesterday February 20, 2011.

The police who showed up took this opportunity to shoot at the detainees, strip them
naked in front of everyone and then proceeded to beat them while their hands and feet
were handcuffed/ tied and also while they lay flat on their stomachs on the ground.
Clearly this overly excessive use of force is illegal, inhuman and degrading treatment,
and unjustified given the fact that these detainees were already contained, on the ground
and fully restrained.

This is also completely against all national and international laws and treaties and against
all human rights standards including “The Standard Minimum Rules for the treatment of
prisoners” which states that “inhuman or degrading punishments shall be completely
prohibited as punishments for disciplinary offences”.  It is also against the laws set by the
European Convention for the Prevention of torture and inhuman and degrading treatment
(CPT). Given the CPT’s most recent report on Aruba which stated that “ill-treatment by
the police in Aruba is by no means a rare phenomenon”; it is evident that the CPT is in
agreement that there is clear and blatant abuse taking place in Aruba against prisoners
and detained persons. As a result they have made several recommendations and 2
statements condemning the treatment of prisoners here; Recommendations which we may
add have fallen on the deaf ears of the Aruban Government and which the Appeal court
Judges have done nothing about.

Nonetheless, it is clear to us that the Aruban Government and it’s police force have no
respect for the very same laws which they are entrusted to uphold and thus ask the
Honorable courts and it’s Honorable Judges of Instruction to get involved and intervene
in this situation.

As the Commission for the Detainees we demand a thorough investigation on the
physical abuse inflicted on the prisoners yesterday and for the Honorable Judges of
Instruction of the First Instant Court of Aruba to immediately come see for themselves
that these prisoners whom were viciously beaten yesterday are Ok. We respectfully
request the above, with sincere hope to avoid further problems and additional disorder
within this facility.

We hope to have informed you sufficiently and await your prompt reply!

Sincerely,
Edwardo Mathew
On behalf of the Commission for the Detainees at the ICN/KIA

Cc: United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights–– email: infoDesk@ohchr.org
The European courts of Human Rights –– Fax (0033)-388- 412-730
Her Majesty the Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands
Mr. H.E. Mr. F.J. Refunjol, Governor of Aruba –– Fax (297) 582-0730
Mr. Arthur Dowers, Minister of Justice –– Fax (297) 582-7518
Attorney Zara –– email: johnfmzara@yahoo.com
European Convention for the Prevention of torture & inhuman & degrading treatment
Mr. Barack Obama, President of the United States
Mrs. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Secretary of State
National & International Media
Amnesty International
Human Rights Organizations
Consulates


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 21, 2011, 08:41:22 PM
SOUTHERN ARKANSAS UNIVERSITY TECH'S DISTINGUISHED SPEAKERS SERIES

Beth Holloway

Mother of Natalee Holloway, Speaker and Educator


SAU Tech is proud to announce Beth Holloway as the fourth annual distinguished speaker for 2011.  Holloway shares her experiences in facing a personal tragedy and shares how her faith, courage, dedication and strength has brought her through to today.  How does one muster the courage to persevere in the face of sheer adversity?  Do we all have capacity to overcome tragedy?  Find out as you listen to her story.

March 14, 2011
Charles O. Ross Center
Call For a Complimentary Ticket - 870.574.4521

<snipped>

http://www.sautech.edu/docs/Beth%20Holloway1.pdf


Triumph Over Devastation

Loving Natalee
A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith


<snipped>

Page 19 - In each city I have the privilege to speak to several high schools, churches, or law enforcement and civic groups.  This translates to thousands of youths and adults.  Delivering this safety message is my triumph over devastation.  If gives me great joy and is tremendously rewarding work.  I think that I can bear the pain of losing Natalee if it means that I can prevent another family from going through our tragic experience.  If even just one young person in tens of thousands is saved, then it's well worth it.

<snipped>

:smt060


Natalee Holloway Resource Center (NHRC)
http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC
 
Mayday 360
http://www.mayday360.com/default.aspx

 :smt060


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 21, 2011, 11:19:46 PM
http://www.fvtc.edu/public/content.aspx?ID=1238&PID=117

Beth Holloway: International Travel Safety
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 @ 7:00 PM | Appleton, Wisconsin

 ::snipping2::

Interested in hearing more about missing persons cases?
Beth's visit is part of FVTC's Criminal Justice Center for Innovation's annual national training conference on Responding to Missing and Unidentified Persons to be held February 22-24 at the Radisson Paper Valley Hotel in Appleton. This conference is designed for community safety planning, sharing resources, and bridging gaps to help bring resolution to families of the missing, communities, and investigations. Visit the Conference Website to find out more!

Beth will provide the keynote presentation on day one of the conference. In reviewing Natalee's case, Beth will outline what went right, what went wrong, and discuss opportunities for collaboration with law enforcement and other agencies regarding future missing persons' cases. Additional highlighted conference speakers include Dr. Emily Craig, Kentucky State Medical Examiner's Office; Sgt. Jon Mattsen, King County Sheriff's Office; and Dr. Daniel and Gil Harrington, parents of Morgan Harrington.   ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 21, 2011, 11:25:32 PM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/natalee_face_off_gYxTwPd7wU8tfJZSfkITiN

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Beth_Sept2010_NyPost.jpg)



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 22, 2011, 12:56:00 AM
Posted in 2NJ's get well thread an update:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9480.msg1306248#msg1306248


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on February 22, 2011, 02:18:59 AM
 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 22, 2011, 12:01:40 PM
Beth Holloway: International Travel Safety

Tuesday, February 22, 2011 @ 7:00 PM | Appleton, Wisconsin


This is a FREE event for students, parents, educators, and all interested in learning more about safe international travel. Don't miss this special presentation by Beth Holloway.

Missing persons and travel safety will take the spotlight during a visit to the Fox Cities by Beth Holloway. Beth's daughter, Natalee, disappeared in Aruba during a 2005 class trip. Still unsolved, Natalee's highly visible case continues to captivate the nation.  Beth's special evening presentation at FVTC's Appleton campus will focus on the memory and legacy of Natalee, and provide a strong message about ensuring personal safety while traveling internationally.

Event Location

This event is free and open to the public, and will be held at 7:00pm. Registration is not required.

Fox Valley Technical College
Appleton Campus - Room A170 A-D
1825 N. Bluemound Drive
Appleton, WI  54914
Phone:  888-370-1752

<snipped>

http://www.fvtc.edu/public/content.aspx?ID=1238&PID=117



Today will be a big day in Appleton, Wisconsin for the mother of Natalee Holloway in her ongoing quest to be a voice for her daughter who was denied justice by a corrupt Aruban investigation.

If those within the Aruban/Dutch administrations thought for one minute that the Natalee Holloway case would fade from media attention ... would become a distance memory ... they underestimated the determination of a mother's love.

Janet


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 22, 2011, 08:38:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsKtT9m_g28

http://www.youtube.com/v/SsKtT9m_g28?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US&amp;rel=0


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 22, 2011, 08:41:34 PM
Mayday 360

http://www.mayday360.com/default.aspx


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 22, 2011, 08:46:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsKtT9m_g28

http://www.youtube.com/v/SsKtT9m_g28?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US&amp;rel=0
::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 22, 2011, 09:12:58 PM

KARMA

(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/joran.jpg)


The Voice of Natalee

'Scarborough Country' for Oct. 24th
updated 7:06 a.m. PT, Tues., Oct. 25, 2005


<snippped>

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: I have told Prime Minister Oduber that I will do this, I will be the voice of Natalee for the next 40 years. And I hope I have that long, because I will do it as long as I can.

<snippped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9813596/


Demand and Expect

'The Abrams Report' for July 1
updated 7/6/2005 10:47:38 AM ET


<snipped>

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER:  We cannot forget to demand and expect to have Natalee. Natalee deserves to return to her country. She deserves it, and everyone knows it, every single person. Every single person knows that. They know it.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8485029/



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 22, 2011, 09:19:50 PM
My prayer is that Natalee Holloway will be returned to family members ... family members who will be afforded after almost six years the opportunity to lay her to rest on American soil.

I believe that there are those who were aboard the Persistence who could be instrumental in bringing about a measure of closure ... those who witnessed the furthering of the Aruban coverup agenda ... the Aruban coverup agenda that has prevented justice from prevailing for an 18 year old American citizen since May 30, 2005.

+++++

The Parable of the Lamp

Mark 4:21-23


Then Jesus asked them, “Would anyone light a lamp and then put it under a basket or under a bed? Of course not! A lamp is placed on a stand, where its light will shine.  For everything that is hidden will eventually be brought into the open, and every secret will be brought to light.  Anyone with ears to hear should listen and understand.”


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 22, 2011, 09:25:34 PM
Yep, that's what ISA chose to represent them in Washington DC.

www.facebook.com

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Van%20der%20Sloot/SebastianRogerBram_NAIMUN2011WashingtonDC2.jpg)

Won't all the new friends they made be so impressed with this?   
 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 22, 2011, 10:00:38 PM
He's gross


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: San on February 22, 2011, 10:04:12 PM
I'm not saying one word but I'm sure you all could read my mind  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 22, 2011, 10:10:47 PM
San...I've probably thought it too!   ::MonkeyDevil::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: SuzieQ on February 22, 2011, 10:41:34 PM
Yep, that's what ISA chose to represent them in Washington DC.

www.facebook.com

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Van%20der%20Sloot/SebastianRogerBram_NAIMUN2011WashingtonDC2.jpg)

Won't all the new friends they made be so impressed with this?   
 ::MonkeyNoNo::




He even looks like Joran in that picture.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 22, 2011, 10:43:23 PM
http://www.diario.aw/2011/02/ronchi-a-celebra-su-cumpleano/

Papiamentu translation:

ronchi owing to celebra his birthday

publication: saturday, 19 feburary 2011.

categoria: style y eventos, social y sorteo

oranjestad (aan): the conocido ronchi owing to celebra his cumpleaños cu one fabuloso cocktail party at gari and wasabi lounge among family, amistadnan, modelo- y fashionistanan.
 ::snipping2::

(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/fronchi6.jpg)

(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/fronchi3.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 22, 2011, 10:44:37 PM
Yep, that's what ISA chose to represent them in Washington DC.

www.facebook.com

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Van%20der%20Sloot/SebastianRogerBram_NAIMUN2011WashingtonDC2.jpg)

Won't all the new friends they made be so impressed with this?   
 ::MonkeyNoNo::




He even looks like Joran in that picture.

I thought so too.   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 22, 2011, 10:52:09 PM
http://www.diario.aw/2011/02/ronchi-a-celebra-su-cumpleano/

Papiamentu translation:

ronchi owing to celebra his birthday

publication: saturday, 19 feburary 2011.

categoria: style y eventos, social y sorteo

oranjestad (aan): the conocido ronchi owing to celebra his cumpleaños cu one fabuloso cocktail party at gari and wasabi lounge among family, amistadnan, modelo- y fashionistanan.
 ::snipping2::

(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/fronchi6.jpg)

(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/fronchi3.jpg)


Not positive, but that looks like Hiram Vrolijk to me.

http://www.diario.aw/2011/02/ronchi-a-celebra-su-cumpleano/

(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/fronchi5.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on February 22, 2011, 11:12:58 PM
http://www.diario.aw/2011/02/ronchi-a-celebra-su-cumpleano/

Papiamentu translation:

ronchi owing to celebra his birthday

publication: saturday, 19 feburary 2011.

categoria: style y eventos, social y sorteo

oranjestad (aan): the conocido ronchi owing to celebra his cumpleaños cu one fabuloso cocktail party at gari and wasabi lounge among family, amistadnan, modelo- y fashionistanan.
 ::snipping2::

(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/fronchi6.jpg)

(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/fronchi3.jpg)


Not positive, but that looks like Hiram Vrolijk to me.

http://www.diario.aw/2011/02/ronchi-a-celebra-su-cumpleano/

(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/fronchi5.jpg)


It looks to me like Ronchi is going through a sex change procedure.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 22, 2011, 11:21:36 PM
Could be Magnolia, he does seem to look more feminine...


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on February 22, 2011, 11:26:56 PM
Could be Magnolia, he does seem to look more feminine...
uhhhhhhh...... I'm not sure which direction "it" is going!!!  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on February 22, 2011, 11:31:34 PM
Is "Ronchi" Pap for "Pat"???????  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 22, 2011, 11:59:30 PM
http://www.crimesite.nl/crimesite/159-headlines/20705-liquidatie-in-amsterdam-watergraafsmeer.html

Google translation:

Hillis Stanley shot dead in Amsterdam         
Crime Site - Headlines
MONDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 2011 2:07 P.M.

In the Amsterdam Fizeaustraat Watergraafsmeer is Monday, February 21 at 12:30 Stanley Hillis (1964) and parked car shot. He died on the spot deceased from his injuries. Monday, police announced. The perpetrator or perpetrators fled in a Volkswagen Transporter with registration number BN-27-JH.

 ::snipping2::

According to Hillis Teurlings took no special security measures. Hillis was sometimes accompanied but often rode in the car.

In recent years Hillis lived alternately in Amsterdam and Aruba. Teurlings: "He was just the last year of his retirement to enjoy."



http://quasi-mundo.nl/blog/2011/02/21/onderwereld-kopstuk-stanley-hillis-alias-de-%E2%80%98ouwe%E2%80%99-geliquideerd-op-klaarlichte-dag/

Google translation:

Underworld leader Stanley Hillis, dubbed "Old" liquidated in broad daylight

 
The man in the afternoon in Amsterdam Fizeaustraat Watergraafsmeer is liquidated shows the notorious underworld boss Stanley Hillis, alias the 'Old' to be. The victim was shot at close range. The perpetrators or perpetrators fled in a Volkswagen Transporter with registration number BN-27-JH.

Police would not officially confirm his identity, but witnesses have identified Hillis. The car he was found is his property.

Stanley Hillis true since the eighties as one of the leaders in the underworld. The 1946 born in The Hague Hillis had close ties with virtually all major penoze-guy like Dino Soerel, Etienne Urka, Willem Holleeder Mink Cook, January Femer, Sam Klepper and John Mieremet. His name adorned been on the so-called death list of the underworld. Hillis was also several times warned by the detective that his life was in danger.

In recent years Hillis therefore often lived abroad, among others in Spain, Aruba, Suriname and the Netherlands Antilles. The Amsterdam investigation will probably breathe a sigh of relief after the violent death of Hillis, who are frantically hunting year was made.

It started since he joined in December 1979, when he was in the Bijlmer a cop shot. After several spectacular escapes was in January 1985 opened a manhunt for him. Hillis appeared disguised in a TV program to Sonja Barend to complain about the police.

Shortly afterwards he was arrested. In subsequent years he was often behind bars. During the infamous IRT affair seemed Hillis as a police informant involved in the introduction of bulk drugs. Later it turned probably present a double role. That seemed dual Hillis in his personal life to play. He drove an antique dealers in Amsterdam-Noord and seemed a normal life. In reality, Hillis pulled strings to many in the underworld.
 ::snipping2::



http://www.crimesite.nl/nieuws/moord/20710-de-ouwe-trok-nog-aan-de-touwtjes.html

Google translation:

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/02222011_StanleyHillis_IRTaffair.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 23, 2011, 12:00:53 AM
Is "Ronchi" Pap for "Pat"???????  ::MonkeyCool::

come across....   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 23, 2011, 12:47:08 AM
http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_flippingbook&book_id=2
 ::snipping2:: from Front Page

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/MISC%20NEWS%2027%20012011/01a-1.jpg)

 ::snipping2:: from Page 3

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/MISC%20NEWS%2027%20012011/03a-1.jpg)



http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6506&Itemid=1

Papiamentu translation:

caso poentje castro keto go bad stick

tuesday, 22 february 2011

supuesto murderer will owing to huy cu car y not cu brommer

oranjestad– already is two month cu the conocido poentje castro owing to wordo throw kill. sinembargo all cos is indica cu autoridadnan policial is self far cu the first day. for of first day end ministerio publico together cu autoridadnan policial did take one posicion of deal the caso here is hermeticamente close, then not was possible for achieve mucho informacion but the postura here do not show cu past owing to give mucho fruto in the proceso of investigacion.  ::snipping2::

mature is cu the investigacion here till still is show cu the not owing to progresa mucho y none sospechoso owing to wordo interoga mucho less deteni. this is indicacion strong cu the investigacion is far for of cas. some informacion cu good morning aruba owing to succeed acumula on the caso till cu aworaki, is cu among another oficialnan encarga cu the caso owing to happen of cas for cas in vecindario of the scenario of the crimen, y busca informacion or witness if one or another person can owing to see algo the night fateful cu owing to throw poentje in cura of his cas. will owing to send several articulo for the netherlands for investigacion cual still not owing to achieve result of they while cu here at aruba self autoridadnan owing to come acumula informacion cu do not as owing to think inicialmente cu the probabel murderer will owing to huy on one brommer after of owing to comete the crimen, but cu the will owing to bandona the sitio in one car, cu was wait for on dje. this is one indicacion cu the posibilidad is existi cu will have more c’un person envolvi in the caso of asesinato of poentje castro at month of december ultimo. come across


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 23, 2011, 01:18:18 AM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_50.jpg)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE,

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/machpicchusteph.jpg)

AND STEPHANY!

 ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 23, 2011, 01:18:50 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_50.jpg)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE,

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/machpicchusteph.jpg)

AND STEPHANY!

 ::MonkeyJustice::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 23, 2011, 09:57:35 PM
http://www.diario.aw/2011/02/ronchi-a-celebra-su-cumpleano/

Papiamentu translation:

ronchi owing to celebra his birthday

publication: saturday, 19 feburary 2011.

categoria: style y eventos, social y sorteo

oranjestad (aan): the conocido ronchi owing to celebra his cumpleaños cu one fabuloso cocktail party at gari and wasabi lounge among family, amistadnan, modelo- y fashionistanan.
 ::snipping2::

(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/fronchi6.jpg)

(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/fronchi3.jpg)


Not positive, but that looks like Hiram Vrolijk to me.

http://www.diario.aw/2011/02/ronchi-a-celebra-su-cumpleano/

(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/fronchi5.jpg)

It's Hiram's fb profile pic now.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000399575070


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 23, 2011, 11:46:16 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_50.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on February 24, 2011, 04:38:14 AM
Thanks Klaas.  Thanks also to the generous donor who provides the documents.

Thanks to you both from me too!   ::MonkeyDance::

3!

 ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on February 24, 2011, 04:58:55 AM
I don't usually post my thanks to Klaas and Generous Monkey, but I am always
grateful and enjoy reading the court documents. ::MonkeyCool::

It does appear that the Kalpoe attorneys are just stalling and being uncorperative,
thinking that Dr. Phil will grow tired and settle.


Me too, Magnolia! I'd like to add my thanks as well. There won't be a settlement, IMO. I still have some hope that some information helpful to Natalee's family will come out as a result of this case.

From your mouth to God's ears!



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on February 24, 2011, 06:14:32 AM
Look who our favorite lawyer is protecting now:

'Rape' cop in 'confession'
Victim wears wire to nab 'fiend' after cry to pal: 'It was the police!'


By BRAD HAMILTON

Quote
Prosecutors have been going over the evidence with Moreno's lawyer, Joseph Tacopina, and Mata's attorney, Edward Mandery, laying out the bulk of their case.

"I'm very confident my client will be acquitted," Tacopina said.

 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/rape_cop_in_confession_H1vFwkDqjqFxqMnEcV1y3I#ixzz1EVrarHFX


 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

Moreno, then a 17-year veteran

After admitting the CRIME...

Moreno: “If you stop drinking, I’ll be your boyfriend. I’m not a bad man. I’m a good friend to have.”

Yep, that's the kind of scum Joe represents.


Exactly TM.  Wasn't it just nice of this rapist to say if you stop drinking I will be your boyfriend.  What a sick individual.

I hope the lighter they found under her bed had his fingerprints on it.  You know Joe Tacopina will flip that around and say it fell out of his pocket while he was trying to help her to her bed.

I agree San, and there's no telling what else this guy has done that made him feel confident enough to go back to the woman's apartment TWICE in the commission of the crime!  Thank goodness for video camera surveillance!  He hired Tacopina because he knows the evidence is going to put him away for a long time with many new "boyfriends" of his own...so he's desperate for someone to twist the facts to his favor to try to get him out of this without a prison sentence.  And we all know Joe's the best at twisting the facts or just flat out lying...whatever it takes.

jmo

Ain't that the truth.

You don't want to get any of that on you.  Who knows how long it will take to get a stain like that out.

Dontcha know, we are all entitled to the best liar we can afford.  If you cannot afford one, too bad.  Momma must be so proud.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on February 24, 2011, 07:52:41 AM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/natalee_face_off_gYxTwPd7wU8tfJZSfkITiN

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Beth_Sept2010_NyPost.jpg)




She stands taller than ever.  I am so proud of her.

It is wonderful to see the Harringtons will be speaking also.  They didn't allow criminals to take their lives, along with their daughters'.  They pushed the incidents back where they belonged, into the faces of the killers.  I know they wish they had their daughters, who were so full of potential back, and so does the country, if not parts of the world.  What a wonderful doctor Natalee would have made.

Natalee and Morgan's potentials were endless because they not only had the brains to memorize and retain the knowledge necessary to be successful, they had the heart to deliver the compassion we are so desperately in need of in this world. Morgan would have no doubt taken this international, as she already started on this mission.  Two fine women taken away from the world much too soon at the hands of brutal and selfish people whose lives apparently still have amounted to a big zero, no, in reality they add up to negative numbers because they actually have taken from the world and not given.  They owe a great debt to not only the parents of these women, but society, too.

Tacopina and your ilg, I can see how your dedication to your career has made such a difference to what we so desperately need in this world.  It warms my heart...oh, wait, I think that is heartburn.

God bless Beth and the Harringtons for staying the course, and not letting the many planned distractions get in the way of their missions.  Their ability to focus in the midst of one catastrophe after another is remarkable.

241

You partiers, continue to throw back another gallon of vodka and keep celebrating.  Just what is it you are celebrating anyway? Are you deluding yourselves with the screen of alcohol and drugs to make it feel like everything is just fine or are you trying to cover the pain of who you are and what you have done/not done?

It is not too late to make something of yourselves.  You are young, don't let your relations/relationships hold you back.  Stand out from the crowd.  Your friends/family are worth saving, too.  Think about it before you take the next sip/snort.  Are you taking that hit because you want it or because you need it?  Go home and make plans.  Plans that include restitution for what you have done and more plans with real goals and objectives, you will be happier in the long run.  You will be safer, too.  Drugs and alcohol take a toll.  Have you checked the mirror lately?  Your body is going to age faster than it should.  Save yourselves before you look like your "mascot."



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on February 24, 2011, 08:00:54 AM
Yep, that's what ISA chose to represent them in Washington DC.

www.facebook.com

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Van%20der%20Sloot/SebastianRogerBram_NAIMUN2011WashingtonDC2.jpg)

Won't all the new friends they made be so impressed with this?  
 ::MonkeyNoNo::



You have to look here http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9215.msg1306622#msg1306622 on TM's post, below the line, where it does not copy to understand the following:


Sloots, always putting their best side out for the world to see.  Hi Mom!  Did you miss me?  Just waiting for my kiss goodnight!

Some drink to forget..........

 ::MonkeyNoNo::





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on February 24, 2011, 08:06:32 AM
Could be Magnolia, he does seem to look more feminine...

Oh, is that what's different.  I thought he swallowed one of the Sloots.





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 24, 2011, 09:58:06 AM
http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Natalee-Holloway-Mom-Gets-True-Crime-Show-Lifetime-30260.html (http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Natalee-Holloway-Mom-Gets-True-Crime-Show-Lifetime-30260.html)

Natalee Holloway's Mom Gets True Crime Show On Lifetime


 ::snipping2::

According to Deadline, Lifetime has given a ten episode order to Vanished With Beth Holloway. You may remember her daughter famously vanished while in holiday in Aruba, leading to an international scandal and a slew of odd behavior from prime suspect Joran van der Sloot. In the new program, she’ll interview the family members of other famous victims, dissecting the case and weighing in with her opinions.

Far from the first time a traumatized parent has tackled likeminded subject matter, America’s Most Wanted host John Walsh’s son Adam was abducted, leading the grieving father to become and advocate and eventually take down predators on television.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 24, 2011, 09:59:36 AM
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/02/natalee_holloways_mom_will_get.html (http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/02/natalee_holloways_mom_will_get.html)

Natalee Holloway’s Mom Will Get Her Own TV Show


Natalee Holloway’s Mom Will Get Her Own TV Show


Natalee Holloway disappeared during a spring-break trip to Aruba in 2005. Four years later, Natalee's disappearance and her parent's search for their missing daughter was made into a TV movie for Lifetime. Now, Lifetime has ordered up a sequel to 2009's film — Justice for Natalee Holloway — and Vanished with Beth Holloway, a ten-episode reality series starring Natalee Holloway's mother, Beth. It'll look at some of America's worst unsolved crimes, and Beth Holloway will offer her insight into them. She's apparently pretty good at this. Holloway sneaked into prison

 ::snipping2::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 24, 2011, 10:01:21 AM
http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/lifetime-orders-natalee-holloway-movie-sequel-reality-series-with-holloways-mom/ (http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/lifetime-orders-natalee-holloway-movie-sequel-reality-series-with-holloways-mom/)

Lifetime Orders 'Natalee Holloway' Movie Sequel, Reality Series WIth Holloway's Mom

EXCLUSIVE: Two years after the Natalee Holloway telefilm set ratings records for Lifetime Movie Network, Lifetime has greenlit a sequel, Justice for Natalee Holloway, and Vanished with Beth Holloway, a 10-episode reality series starring Natalee Holloway's mom, which examines some of America's most disturbing unsolved cases. Both have started filming and will air on the flagship Lifetime channel.

Justice for Natalee Holloway picks up several years after the events in the original movie. It chronicles the ongoing mystery of the 2005 disappearance of the Alabama

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 24, 2011, 11:01:11 AM
Loving Natalee
A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith


Exerpts

Pages 230/231:  I can't say for sure if we'll ever know that answer to whether my daughter is alive or not.  I know it doesn't look good.  But just as that old metal spiral staircase rose from the ashes when our lake house burned down, so too faith stands strong in the remains of this devastating loss.  And just as my Dad built another house around that staircase, I will build another life around hope and faith.  It won't ever be the same.  But I pray that it will, at the very least, be useful.

The hope that filled Natalee's heart fills mine, and I will press on.  Faith got me up this morning, and faith will see me through tomorrow.  And the next day.  And the next.

 :smt060


Natalee Holloway Resource Center (NHRC)
http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC
 
Mayday 360
http://www.mayday360.com/default.aspx


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 24, 2011, 11:16:46 AM
http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/lifetime-orders-natalee-holloway-movie-sequel-reality-series-with-holloways-mom/ (http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/lifetime-orders-natalee-holloway-movie-sequel-reality-series-with-holloways-mom/)

Lifetime Orders 'Natalee Holloway' Movie Sequel, Reality Series WIth Holloway's Mom

EXCLUSIVE: Two years after the Natalee Holloway telefilm set ratings records for Lifetime Movie Network, Lifetime has greenlit a sequel, Justice for Natalee Holloway, and Vanished with Beth Holloway, a 10-episode reality series starring Natalee Holloway's mom, which examines some of America's most disturbing unsolved cases. Both have started filming and will air on the flagship Lifetime channel.

Justice for Natalee Holloway picks up several years after the events in the original movie. It chronicles the ongoing mystery of the 2005 disappearance of the Alabama

 ::snipping2::


Joran van der Sloot

'I wanted to get back at Natalee's family - her parents have been making my life tough for five years.'


October, 2010

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-true-story-book/zMY1TGGVkU2Kc8LMCiU6pA.cspx

 
Beth Holloway

'If he thinks I've been pestering him for the past five years, he hasn't seen anything yet.'

November, 2010

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/archief/de-confrontatie-tussen-beth-en-joran/


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on February 24, 2011, 11:23:27 AM


Go Beth!

 ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: SuzieQ on February 24, 2011, 01:43:23 PM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/natalee_face_off_gYxTwPd7wU8tfJZSfkITiN

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Beth_Sept2010_NyPost.jpg)




She stands taller than ever.  I am so proud of her.

It is wonderful to see the Harringtons will be speaking also.  They didn't allow criminals to take their lives, along with their daughters'.  They pushed the incidents back where they belonged, into the faces of the killers.  I know they wish they had their daughters, who were so full of potential back, and so does the country, if not parts of the world.  What a wonderful doctor Natalee would have made.

Natalee and Morgan's potentials were endless because they not only had the brains to memorize and retain the knowledge necessary to be successful, they had the heart to deliver the compassion we are so desperately in need of in this world. Morgan would have no doubt taken this international, as she already started on this mission.  Two fine women taken away from the world much too soon at the hands of brutal and selfish people whose lives apparently still have amounted to a big zero, no, in reality they add up to negative numbers because they actually have taken from the world and not given.  They owe a great debt to not only the parents of these women, but society, too.

Tacopina and your ilg, I can see how your dedication to your career has made such a difference to what we so desperately need in this world.  It warms my heart...oh, wait, I think that is heartburn.

God bless Beth and the Harringtons for staying the course, and not letting the many planned distractions get in the way of their missions.  Their ability to focus in the midst of one catastrophe after another is remarkable.

241

You partiers, continue to throw back another gallon of vodka and keep celebrating.  Just what is it you are celebrating anyway? Are you deluding yourselves with the screen of alcohol and drugs to make it feel like everything is just fine or are you trying to cover the pain of who you are and what you have done/not done?

It is not too late to make something of yourselves.  You are young, don't let your relations/relationships hold you back.  Stand out from the crowd.  Your friends/family are worth saving, too.  Think about it before you take the next sip/snort.  Are you taking that hit because you want it or because you need it?  Go home and make plans.  Plans that include restitution for what you have done and more plans with real goals and objectives, you will be happier in the long run.  You will be safer, too.  Drugs and alcohol take a toll.  Have you checked the mirror lately?  Your body is going to age faster than it should.  Save yourselves before you look like your "mascot."



Bearly   ::MonkeyAngel::   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Anna on February 24, 2011, 03:18:40 PM
http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Natalee-Holloway-Mom-Gets-True-Crime-Show-Lifetime-30260.html (http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Natalee-Holloway-Mom-Gets-True-Crime-Show-Lifetime-30260.html)

Natalee Holloway's Mom Gets True Crime Show On Lifetime


 ::snipping2::

According to Deadline, Lifetime has given a ten episode order to Vanished With Beth Holloway. You may remember her daughter famously vanished while in holiday in Aruba, leading to an international scandal and a slew of odd behavior from prime suspect Joran van der Sloot. In the new program, she’ll interview the family members of other famous victims, dissecting the case and weighing in with her opinions.

Far from the first time a traumatized parent has tackled likeminded subject matter, America’s Most Wanted host John Walsh’s son Adam was abducted, leading the grieving father to become and advocate and eventually take down predators on television.

 ::monkeywine2::

She meant it when she said she would never stop.


.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on February 24, 2011, 04:17:55 PM
http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Natalee-Holloway-Mom-Gets-True-Crime-Show-Lifetime-30260.html (http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Natalee-Holloway-Mom-Gets-True-Crime-Show-Lifetime-30260.html)

Natalee Holloway's Mom Gets True Crime Show On Lifetime


 ::snipping2::

According to Deadline, Lifetime has given a ten episode order to Vanished With Beth Holloway. You may remember her daughter famously vanished while in holiday in Aruba, leading to an international scandal and a slew of odd behavior from prime suspect Joran van der Sloot. In the new program, she’ll interview the family members of other famous victims, dissecting the case and weighing in with her opinions.

Far from the first time a traumatized parent has tackled likeminded subject matter, America’s Most Wanted host John Walsh’s son Adam was abducted, leading the grieving father to become and advocate and eventually take down predators on television.

 ::monkeywine2::

She meant it when she said she would never stop.


.

ITA !!

It's good to see you again, Anna.  ::dogwag::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on February 24, 2011, 06:14:43 PM
That is FANTASTIC news Klaas.  ::MonkeyDance:: Justice is happening everyday. You can say Uncle anytime Assruba and give Natalee Holloway what she deserves. RESPECT. Assruba has disrespected not only Natalee Holloway and Stephany Flores, but the families of these wondefful young ladies. They will never be forgotten, nor will the support that you gave to the miscreants who raped and murdered her Natalee Holloway. Natalee and her mother Beth Holloway will never go away. Everyday I hear the Tickin and Tocking of a grandfather clock that always reminds me what time it is in Natalee Holloway's world.


JUSTICE TIME


::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on February 24, 2011, 06:18:49 PM
I'm so friggin excited about this TV stuff. Turn on your TV and change it to Lifetime network. Tell your friends about these shows and spread the word so we can support Natalee, Stephany, Beth , and every missing person. The continued exposing of Assruba always makes my day a bit brighter. Just because you're an Island doesn't mean you're untouchable Assruba. Beth is one smart cookie...Yipppppeeeeeee ::MonkeySlide::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on February 24, 2011, 06:38:37 PM
On many rainy days as I walk to where I'm going I find myself looking up, smiling at the rain because I know justice is being served in the good Lord's time. It is a BIG smile I tell you. One day at a time.... ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on February 24, 2011, 06:43:25 PM
Hotping, Billb, Blue Moon, LifeSong, Rob, Kermit, Wreck..We've got more TV shows.. Can you dig it?


::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 24, 2011, 07:06:40 PM
http://www.amigoenieuws.com/PDF%20amigoearu/24-02-2011a.pdf

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/02242011_AmigoeArticleMovieSequelandVanishedserieswithBeth.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 24, 2011, 07:08:46 PM
THERE IS MORE TO COME

Beth Holloway

Exerpts:


'If he thinks I've been pestering him for the past five years, he hasn't seen anything yet.'

'There is more to come … there is more to come.'

September, 2010

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/archief/de-confrontatie-tussen-beth-en-joran/


Lifetime Orders 'Natalee Holloway' Movie Sequel, Reality Series WIth Holloway's Mom
BY NELLIE ANDREEVA | Wednesday February 23, 2011 @ 6:41pm PST


<snipped>

Justice for Natalee Holloway picks up several years after the events in the original movie. It chronicles the ongoing mystery of the 2005 disappearance of the Alabama teenager during her senior class trip to Aruba and her suspected killer Joran van der Sloot's series of conflicting (and so far false) clues about her fate. When van der Sloot demands $250,000 from Beth to reveal the location of Natalee's remains, she and her attorney John Kelly partner with the FBI to build a case against him. But before they can, van der Sloot is arrested in Peru for the murder of a young woman on the 5th anniversary of Natalee's disappearance.

<snipped>

http://m.deadline.com/2011/02/lifetime-orders-natalee-holloway-movie-sequel-reality-series-with-holloways-mom/


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 24, 2011, 07:12:45 PM
GO BETH!! (http://deephousepage.com/smilies/respect.gif)

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on February 24, 2011, 07:22:06 PM
GO BETH!! (http://deephousepage.com/smilies/respect.gif)

 ::MonkeyGavel::

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 24, 2011, 07:39:38 PM
Looks like someone Anthony Hagedoorn knows used a spare key to take his boat out and caused some damage.  Don't know if he filed a complaint or not.

http://www.diario.aw/2011/02/%E2%80%9Ctranquilo%E2%80%9D-a-disparce-for-di-pier/

Papiamentu translation:

“tranquilo” owing to disparce for of pier

publication: diahuebs, 24 feburary 2011.

categoria: general

trahador will owing to bay nabega in boat of placer y without permission

oranjestad (aan): police of oranjestad owing to bay atende anything at the pier of seaport relaciona cu hortamento of one boat of placer. the informe owing to arrive at oido of central of police by centro of alarma. at once owing to despacha patrol at the pier y police owing to come across cu he of inicialnan a.h.d. of 41 year of edad. according version of a.d. cu for 5’or of nightfall past owing to let his boat of placer cu is nabega bao of the name “tranquilo” ancra near of pier of palm tours situa at palmbeach. during oranan of night one tourist cu the conoce owing to yame y owing to bise cu the was on yacht “tranquilo” y the boat was have problem y the wanted come ground. denunciante owing to bay haci his investigacion y owing to come localiza his yacht tranquil at seaport marine. locual owing to sosode according denunciante, cu he cu is work pe of inicialnan d.w. owing to using key spare, using the yacht without autorizacion of the owner, for colmo apparently bao of influencia. y also owing to cause damage at the yacht. can cierto enough coin the will can bay costa for fix.

 ::snipping2::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 24, 2011, 08:11:30 PM
Looks like someone Anthony Hagedoorn knows used a spare key to take his boat out and caused some damage.  Don't know if he filed a complaint or not.

http://www.diario.aw/2011/02/%E2%80%9Ctranquilo%E2%80%9D-a-disparce-for-di-pier/

Papiamentu translation:

“tranquilo” owing to disparce for of pier

publication: diahuebs, 24 feburary 2011.

categoria: general

trahador will owing to bay nabega in boat of placer y without permission

oranjestad (aan): police of oranjestad owing to bay atende anything at the pier of seaport relaciona cu hortamento of one boat of placer. the informe owing to arrive at oido of central of police by centro of alarma. at once owing to despacha patrol at the pier y police owing to come across cu he of inicialnan a.h.d. of 41 year of edad. according version of a.d. cu for 5’or of nightfall past owing to let his boat of placer cu is nabega bao of the name “tranquilo” ancra near of pier of palm tours situa at palmbeach. during oranan of night one tourist cu the conoce owing to yame y owing to bise cu the was on yacht “tranquilo” y the boat was have problem y the wanted come ground. denunciante owing to bay haci his investigacion y owing to come localiza his yacht tranquil at seaport marine. locual owing to sosode according denunciante, cu he cu is work pe of inicialnan d.w. owing to using key spare, using the yacht without autorizacion of the owner, for colmo apparently bao of influencia. y also owing to cause damage at the yacht. can cierto enough coin the will can bay costa for fix.

 ::snipping2::



Sounds like something a stupid drunk kid would do.  Is Sebastian back from DC?


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 24, 2011, 08:22:09 PM
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Beth-Holloway-gets-a-TV-show/Iw8P1XMM0E29Mj-UfbVCYg.cspx

Beth Holloway gets a TV show

Last Update: 2:56 pm
 
(AP)
Birmingham (WIAT)  The mother of missing Mountain Brook teen Natalee Holloway has reportedly signed a movie and reality series for the Lifetime cable network.

Beth Holloway will host "Vanished with Beth Holloway", a ten-episode reality series looking at unsolved crimes and offering her insight into them. There will also be a sequel to the 2009 Lifetime movie about Natalee's disappearance which set ratings records for the cable network.

Natalee Holloway disappeared in 2005 on a trip to Aruba with Mountain Brook High School classmates. She was last seen at a club in the company of Joran van der Sloot. The young Dutchman is still considered the prime suspect in the case but has never been charged by Aruban authorities.

 ::snipping2::

(http://www.cbs42.com/media/lib/124/e/f/d/efd31339-24ff-487e-86cc-32751dce29e0/Story.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 24, 2011, 08:58:00 PM
Looks like someone Anthony Hagedoorn knows used a spare key to take his boat out and caused some damage.  Don't know if he filed a complaint or not.

http://www.diario.aw/2011/02/%E2%80%9Ctranquilo%E2%80%9D-a-disparce-for-di-pier/

Papiamentu translation:

“tranquilo” owing to disparce for of pier

publication: diahuebs, 24 feburary 2011.

categoria: general

trahador will owing to bay nabega in boat of placer y without permission

oranjestad (aan): police of oranjestad owing to bay atende anything at the pier of seaport relaciona cu hortamento of one boat of placer. the informe owing to arrive at oido of central of police by centro of alarma. at once owing to despacha patrol at the pier y police owing to come across cu he of inicialnan a.h.d. of 41 year of edad. according version of a.d. cu for 5’or of nightfall past owing to let his boat of placer cu is nabega bao of the name “tranquilo” ancra near of pier of palm tours situa at palmbeach. during oranan of night one tourist cu the conoce owing to yame y owing to bise cu the was on yacht “tranquilo” y the boat was have problem y the wanted come ground. denunciante owing to bay haci his investigacion y owing to come localiza his yacht tranquil at seaport marine. locual owing to sosode according denunciante, cu he cu is work pe of inicialnan d.w. owing to using key spare, using the yacht without autorizacion of the owner, for colmo apparently bao of influencia. y also owing to cause damage at the yacht. can cierto enough coin the will can bay costa for fix.

 ::snipping2::



Sounds like something a stupid drunk kid would do.  Is Sebastian back from DC?

I would think he's back from DC, but not sure about that. 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: grace-land on February 24, 2011, 09:05:42 PM
Good evening, everyone.

Any news from the court regarding Dr. Phil vs Kalpoes?   ::MonkeyGavel:: 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 24, 2011, 09:09:56 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tranquilo-Charters-Aruba/105298909104 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tranquilo-Charters-Aruba/105298909104)

Tranquilo Charters Aruba
We have had the boat pulled out of the water today. After what had been done, it seems we have a tough boat. Reports of it being beached with waves pounding it, reversed off the beach banging into De Palm pier. The dammage visible so far seems to be less that expected.
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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 24, 2011, 09:10:38 PM
Good evening, everyone.

Any news from the court regarding Dr. Phil vs Kalpoes?   ::MonkeyGavel:: 

There were no more news/docs this morning but I'll check right now


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 24, 2011, 09:11:37 PM
Good evening, everyone.

Any news from the court regarding Dr. Phil vs Kalpoes?   ::MonkeyGavel:: 

Good evening, did you see the documents Klaasend posted at the beginning of the thread?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9215.msg1304370#msg1304370


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 24, 2011, 09:12:07 PM
Good evening, everyone.

Any news from the court regarding Dr. Phil vs Kalpoes?   ::MonkeyGavel:: 

There were no more news/docs this morning but I'll check right now
::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 24, 2011, 09:13:50 PM
Nope, nothing new that hasn't already been posted. 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 24, 2011, 09:17:42 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tranquilo-Charters-Aruba/105298909104 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tranquilo-Charters-Aruba/105298909104)

Tranquilo Charters Aruba
We have had the boat pulled out of the water today. After what had been done, it seems we have a tough boat. Reports of it being beached with waves pounding it, reversed off the beach banging into De Palm pier. The dammage visible so far seems to be less that expected.
about an hour ago · View Feedback (8)Hide Feedback (8)



 Tranquilo Charters Aruba
      Apparently there was a group, or individual (not confirmed yet) that decided to take her for a spin. When I was notified of this, I found the boat, back on its mooring with engine running and a visitor from the USA on board. The guy who too...k the boat was at Bugaloe bar drunk out of his mind. We took the boat to the Renaissance Marina in Oranjestad for damage control. Visible damage to the topsides (cosmetic) on the starboard side were imediately visible.
      One of her anchor lines was pulled into the propeller causing extensive damage to the drive train including the propeller shaft, engine mounds, shaft strut and possibly transmission and V-Drive.See More
      Yesterday at 2:14pm


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 24, 2011, 09:24:33 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tranquilo-Charters-Aruba/105298909104 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tranquilo-Charters-Aruba/105298909104)

Tranquilo Charters Aruba
We have had the boat pulled out of the water today. After what had been done, it seems we have a tough boat. Reports of it being beached with waves pounding it, reversed off the beach banging into De Palm pier. The dammage visible so far seems to be less that expected.
about an hour ago · View Feedback (8)Hide Feedback (8)



 Tranquilo Charters Aruba
      Apparently there was a group, or individual (not confirmed yet) that decided to take her for a spin. When I was notified of this, I found the boat, back on its mooring with engine running and a visitor from the USA on board. The guy who too...k the boat was at Bugaloe bar drunk out of his mind. We took the boat to the Renaissance Marina in Oranjestad for damage control. Visible damage to the topsides (cosmetic) on the starboard side were imediately visible.
      One of her anchor lines was pulled into the propeller causing extensive damage to the drive train including the propeller shaft, engine mounds, shaft strut and possibly transmission and V-Drive.See More
      Yesterday at 2:14pm

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tranquilo-Charters-Aruba/105298909104

 ::snipping2::

Quote
The case is being investigated by local police (God help me)!

Ain't that the truth!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 24, 2011, 09:26:45 PM
Nope, nothing new that hasn't already been posted. 

Thanks for checking Klaas!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 24, 2011, 09:46:18 PM
http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/24/natalee-holloway-story-inspires-lifetime-sequel-reality-series/

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/02/24/t1larg.holloway.jpg)


February 24th, 2011
06:02 PM ET

Natalee Holloway story inspires Lifetime sequel, reality series

Natalee Holloway has been missing since 2005, but the fascination with her disappearance remains stronger than ever.

In fact, Lifetime is developing a sequel to its top-rated 2009 telefilm about Holloway, as well as a reality series starring her mom, reports Deadline.com.

"Justice for Natalee Holloway" takes place several years after the first TV movie and will follow Beth Holloway (Tracy Pollan) on her search to discover the fate of her teenage daughter, who disappeared on a senior class trip to Aruba.


Beth and her attorney team up with the FBI to build a case against suspected killer Joran van der Sloot (Stephen Amell), who has demanded $250,000 to reveal where Natalee's remains are located. But on the fifth anniversary of Natalee's disappearance, he is arrested in Peru for the murder of another young woman.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Blue Moon on February 24, 2011, 09:56:30 PM
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Beth-Holloway-gets-a-TV-show/Iw8P1XMM0E29Mj-UfbVCYg.cspx

Beth Holloway gets a TV show

Last Update: 2:56 pm
 
(AP)
Birmingham (WIAT)  The mother of missing Mountain Brook teen Natalee Holloway has reportedly signed a movie and reality series for the Lifetime cable network.

Beth Holloway will host "Vanished with Beth Holloway", a ten-episode reality series looking at unsolved crimes and offering her insight into them. There will also be a sequel to the 2009 Lifetime movie about Natalee's disappearance which set ratings records for the cable network.

Natalee Holloway disappeared in 2005 on a trip to Aruba with Mountain Brook High School classmates. She was last seen at a club in the company of Joran van der Sloot. The young Dutchman is still considered the prime suspect in the case but has never been charged by Aruban authorities.

 ::snipping2::

(http://www.cbs42.com/media/lib/124/e/f/d/efd31339-24ff-487e-86cc-32751dce29e0/Story.jpg)


Bless her heart.  Hey Aruba, I hope Beth puts ya front and center.

(severe thunderstorm warning and tornado watch--guess I better sign off)

Justice for Natalee and Stephanie.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Blue Moon on February 24, 2011, 09:57:45 PM
On many rainy days as I walk to where I'm going I find myself looking up, smiling at the rain because I know justice is being served in the good Lord's time. It is a BIG smile I tell you. One day at a time.... ::MonkeyCool::

Hi KTF.  I couldn't have said it better.


Thanks goes out to our special person who furnishes the court records on the Kalpoes.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 24, 2011, 10:04:02 PM
Stay safe Blue Moon


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: grace-land on February 24, 2011, 10:11:36 PM
Nope, nothing new that hasn't already been posted. 

Thanks, Klaas.  The Kalpoes are running out of time--and luck!  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 24, 2011, 10:14:27 PM
Stay safe Blue Moon

Yes, stay safe Blue Moon!   ::MonkeyCool::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: grace-land on February 24, 2011, 10:15:46 PM
Good evening, everyone.

Any news from the court regarding Dr. Phil vs Kalpoes?   ::MonkeyGavel:: 

Good evening, did you see the documents Klaasend posted at the beginning of the thread?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9215.msg1304370#msg1304370

Thanks, Texasmom.  I did read it; the end is near--sweet justice!  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 24, 2011, 10:15:53 PM
Is it just me or is the new Amigoe site real slow in opening, if it opens at all. 

http://www.amigoenieuws.com/


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 24, 2011, 10:19:46 PM
Is it just me or is the new Amigoe site real slow in opening, if it opens at all. 

http://www.amigoenieuws.com/

It doesn't open for me.

Hey ... pages from the SM site have been slow to come up for me.  Is it just me or ... are others having the same problem.

Thanks

Janet


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: grace-land on February 24, 2011, 10:22:26 PM
Is it just me or is the new Amigoe site real slow in opening, if it opens at all. 

http://www.amigoenieuws.com/
I tried it several times; it won't open for me.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 24, 2011, 10:29:51 PM
Is it just me or is the new Amigoe site real slow in opening, if it opens at all. 

http://www.amigoenieuws.com/

It was slow earlier too.  I just tried again, and it never came up...but 24ora did so I guess it's not that the internet is down there...as it often is.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 24, 2011, 10:34:03 PM
http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/24/natalee-holloway-story-inspires-lifetime-sequel-reality-series/

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/02/24/t1larg.holloway.jpg)


February 24th, 2011
06:02 PM ET

Natalee Holloway story inspires Lifetime sequel, reality series

Natalee Holloway has been missing since 2005, but the fascination with her disappearance remains stronger than ever.

In fact, Lifetime is developing a sequel to its top-rated 2009 telefilm about Holloway, as well as a reality series starring her mom, reports Deadline.com.

"Justice for Natalee Holloway" takes place several years after the first TV movie and will follow Beth Holloway (Tracy Pollan) on her search to discover the fate of her teenage daughter, who disappeared on a senior class trip to Aruba.


Beth and her attorney team up with the FBI to build a case against suspected killer Joran van der Sloot (Stephen Amell), who has demanded $250,000 to reveal where Natalee's remains are located. But on the fifth anniversary of Natalee's disappearance, he is arrested in Peru for the murder of another young woman.

 ::snipping2::


I'm glad Tracy Pollan will play Beth's role in the sequel too!  She was awesome in the original movie imo.

 ::MonkeyHeart::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on February 24, 2011, 11:16:04 PM
On many rainy days as I walk to where I'm going I find myself looking up, smiling at the rain because I know justice is being served in the good Lord's time. It is a BIG smile I tell you. One day at a time.... ::MonkeyCool::

Hi KTF.  I couldn't have said it better.


Thanks goes out to our special person who furnishes the court records on the Kalpoes.


Hope all is well Blue Moon. I was speaking of a day that I was walking to where I needed to go and it was a bit drizzly here in the Northwest, as we all know it can be. I was walking and had the headphones from my phone in, was listening to an oldies station and Lynyrd Skynyrd's Freebird came on. As I looked up there was a glint of sunshine through the clouds and I thought of all the Freebirds, Monkey's, Beth, and most of all Natalee Holloway and Stephany Flores. I have many subtle moments from time to time that reminds me what a gift life is and how easy it can be taken away. The contributions from everyone on this forum do not go unoticed with me and I carry the tenacity of the Monkey's everywhere I go whether I like it or not. This is a very wonderful group of people who choose to devote precious time to two young ladies who were ripped from the prime of their life by EVIL. God Bless each and every person who's devoted time to these young ladies!

KEEPTHEFAITH


::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 24, 2011, 11:49:59 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_50.jpg)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE,

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/machpicchusteph.jpg)

AND STEPHANY!

 ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: billb's daughter on February 25, 2011, 01:40:51 AM
Hotping, Billb, Blue Moon, LifeSong, Rob, Kermit, Wreck..We've got more TV shows.. Can you dig it?


::monkeywine2::
I dig it Keepthefaith.....
Justice for Natalee is just around the corner.... ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on February 25, 2011, 01:44:48 AM
Hotping, Billb, Blue Moon, LifeSong, Rob, Kermit, Wreck..We've got more TV shows.. Can you dig it?


::monkeywine2::
I dig it Keepthefaith.....
Justice for Natalee is just around the corner.... ::MonkeyAngel::

Good Stuff Billb. ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: grace-land on February 25, 2011, 02:31:43 AM
On many rainy days as I walk to where I'm going I find myself looking up, smiling at the rain because I know justice is being served in the good Lord's time. It is a BIG smile I tell you. One day at a time.... ::MonkeyCool::

Hi KTF.  I couldn't have said it better.


Thanks goes out to our special person who furnishes the court records on the Kalpoes.


Hope all is well Blue Moon. I was speaking of a day that I was walking to where I needed to go and it was a bit drizzly here in the Northwest, as we all know it can be. I was walking and had the headphones from my phone in, was listening to an oldies station and Lynyrd Skynyrd's Freebird came on. As I looked up there was a glint of sunshine through the clouds and I thought of all the Freebirds, Monkey's, Beth, and most of all Natalee Holloway and Stephany Flores. I have many subtle moments from time to time that reminds me what a gift life is and how easy it can be taken away. The contributions from everyone on this forum do not go unoticed with me and I carry the tenacity of the Monkey's everywhere I go whether I like it or not. This is a very wonderful group of people who choose to devote precious time to two young ladies who were ripped from the prime of their life by EVIL. God Bless each and every person who's devoted time to these young ladies!

KEEPTHEFAITH


::MonkeyAngel::

What a thoughtful reflection on what this is all about and why we are here, KTF!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on February 25, 2011, 02:43:19 AM
Thank you grace-land. We must KTF! ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on February 25, 2011, 03:06:18 AM
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY AND STEPHANY FLORES

GOOD NIGHT & GOD BLESS

KEEPTHEFAITH


::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on February 25, 2011, 06:02:18 AM
Looks like someone Anthony Hagedoorn knows used a spare key to take his boat out and caused some damage.  Don't know if he filed a complaint or not.

http://www.diario.aw/2011/02/%E2%80%9Ctranquilo%E2%80%9D-a-disparce-for-di-pier/

Papiamentu translation:

“tranquilo” owing to disparce for of pier

publication: diahuebs, 24 feburary 2011.

categoria: general

trahador will owing to bay nabega in boat of placer y without permission

oranjestad (aan): police of oranjestad owing to bay atende anything at the pier of seaport relaciona cu hortamento of one boat of placer. the informe owing to arrive at oido of central of police by centro of alarma. at once owing to despacha patrol at the pier y police owing to come across cu he of inicialnan a.h.d. of 41 year of edad. according version of a.d. cu for 5’or of nightfall past owing to let his boat of placer cu is nabega bao of the name “tranquilo” ancra near of pier of palm tours situa at palmbeach. during oranan of night one tourist cu the conoce owing to yame y owing to bise cu the was on yacht “tranquilo” y the boat was have problem y the wanted come ground. denunciante owing to bay haci his investigacion y owing to come localiza his yacht tranquil at seaport marine. locual owing to sosode according denunciante, cu he cu is work pe of inicialnan d.w. owing to using key spare, using the yacht without autorizacion of the owner, for colmo apparently bao of influencia. y also owing to cause damage at the yacht. can cierto enough coin the will can bay costa for fix.

 ::snipping2::



Sounds like something a stupid drunk kid would do.  Is Sebastian back from DC?

I was thinking about the stupid drunk kid thing myself.  That is just what I meant earlier. 

The thing is, when you wean your kids on hard alcohol and drugs and then look the other way when your sons and daughters are partaking continuously of the party life that tourists come to imbibe in for a week or two, there can be nothing but stupid kid tricks on one big sloppy island.  When are they going to start realizing these kids are killing themselves, each other, tourists, and tourism while they are poisoning themselves. 

Moms and Dads in Aruba, can you hear me now? 

It is not cute, they are not sporters, they are addicts who are killing themselves and pulling the whole island down the hole with them.  Underage drinking is illegal--that's your kid they are serving.  Underage gambling is illegal--that's your kid that needs bucks for their gambling sickness.  Prostitution is illegal--that's your kid they are selling and exploiting.  Keep looking the other way and blame it on the tourists who come for the very thing you advertise and promote as safe.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on February 25, 2011, 06:11:38 AM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tranquilo-Charters-Aruba/105298909104 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tranquilo-Charters-Aruba/105298909104)

Tranquilo Charters Aruba
We have had the boat pulled out of the water today. After what had been done, it seems we have a tough boat. Reports of it being beached with waves pounding it, reversed off the beach banging into De Palm pier. The dammage visible so far seems to be less that expected.
about an hour ago · View Feedback (8)Hide Feedback (8)



 Tranquilo Charters Aruba
      Apparently there was a group, or individual (not confirmed yet) that decided to take her for a spin. When I was notified of this, I found the boat, back on its mooring with engine running and a visitor from the USA on board. The guy who too...k the boat was at Bugaloe bar drunk out of his mind. We took the boat to the Renaissance Marina in Oranjestad for damage control. Visible damage to the topsides (cosmetic) on the starboard side were imediately visible.
      One of her anchor lines was pulled into the propeller causing extensive damage to the drive train including the propeller shaft, engine mounds, shaft strut and possibly transmission and V-Drive.See More
      Yesterday at 2:14pm

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tranquilo-Charters-Aruba/105298909104

 ::snipping2::

Quote
The case is being investigated by local police (God help me)!

Ain't that the truth!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

They better bring a razor and a bowl or two of frosted flakes to move things along. 

I wonder if they told them to wait at Carlos and Charlies and see if anyone drives up in the yacht after a couple of days.

 ::MonkeyBike::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on February 25, 2011, 11:35:05 PM
Justice itself is slow in Peru, for only the judiciary has just completed the first stage of the process instructive follows the Dutch Joran van der Sloot to assassinate Stephanie Flores, a young Peruvian 21.

As recalled in May 2010, Stephany Flores was found dead in a hotel room, where he was staying Dutch. This was the last to see her alive and Van der Sloot accused for the murder of the young, as safety videos, prove that he entered the room with her and she did not come out alive.

Now the Fourth Court, will conduct the relevant proceedings, and I was handed the case to the Prosecutor's Office to assess whether to grant an extension of time or have criminal charges against the alleged murderer, reported RPP.

http://www.generaccion.com/noticia/94335/expediente-holandes-van-der-sloot-recien-sera-remitido-fiscalia


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 26, 2011, 12:05:37 AM
http://fvtcpresidentblog.com/2011/02/23/colleges-national-impact-on-families-of-the-missing/#more-577

College’s National Impact on Families of the Missing
Posted on February 23, 2011 by sbing

 ::snipping2::

(http://fvtcsusan.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/beth-holloway.jpg?w=300&h=225)
Beth Holloway shared accounts of her missing daughter, Natalee, as part of our college's annual national conference on missing persons.

Beth Holloway, mother of Natalee Holloway, spoke at yesterday’s conference as well as at a session on campus for the community last night. Natalee was on a senior class trip to Aruba but didn’t return home with her classmates. She went missing and it was eventually determined that she had been murdered. Beth shared the incredible story of getting that call from Aruba, the months of effort to work with authorities in a foreign country to find Natalee, and her eventual resolve to turn this tragedy into making a difference for others. I can’t imagine how families deal with the abduction of loved ones and was in awe of Beth’s strength, courage, and resolve to live her own life in a way that was a positive force for others.  We had a great audience turn out from the community to hear Beth’s story firsthand.

I felt the closing message last night had application not only for cases of missing children, but for so many aspects of life. That message was this:  even when we do all the right things, sometimes bad things happen. And when they do, we need to constructively work through them with the best resources available and a resolve to make the most of the situation. When we face our own challenges, it is always good to keep the perspective that most likely others have dealt with worse things. Last night I couldn’t help but think that the senseless murder of one’s child had to be among the very worst of challenges.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 26, 2011, 12:38:37 AM
http://elcomercio.pe/lima/718995/noticia-pj-concluyo-primera-etapa-proceso-contra-joran-van-der-sloot

Google translation:

Joran van der SLOOT case

PJ completed the first stage of the proceedings against Joran Van der Sloot

The case file will be forwarded to the Prosecutor's Office to determine whether to file or filed criminal charges against the Dutch

Friday February 25, 2011 - 01:22 PM 2 comments

The Judiciary concluded instructive stage of the process followed to Joran van der Sloot for the murder of the young Stephany Flores.

The Fourth Criminal Court of Lima Prison Inmates in taking this action to complete an expansion that was available to take a series of measures within this law enforcement investigation.

The case file will be forwarded to the Prosecutor's Office for an evaluation and to determine whether an extension is requested, or if calls are dropped or filed criminal charges against a Dutch citizen.

To be the last option, the prosecution will move to a Superior Room for undertaking the trial against van der Sloot, who is currently detained at the Castro Castro prison.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 26, 2011, 12:48:53 AM
http://www.rpp.com.pe/2011-02-25-concluye-primera-etapa-de-proceso-contra-el-holandes-van-der-sloot-noticia_339837.html

Google translation:

Friday, February 25, 2011 | 11:08 pm

Completes first stage of proceedings against the Dutch Van der Sloot

It must be sent to the Prosecutor's Office to determine whether to grant an extension of time or have criminal charges against Van der Sloot.

The Judicial Branch closed the instructional phase of the process that follows the Dutch citizen Joran van der Sloot (22) for the murder of the young Peruvian Stephany Flores (21).

The Fourth Court adopted this measure to end deadlines for taking the appropriate steps.

It must be sent to the Prosecutor's Office to determine whether to grant an extension of time or have criminal charges against Van der Sloot.

The young Dutchman is held at the Miguel Castro Castro prison accused of murdering the girl after leaving a casino, which occurred in May 2010.


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Post by: texasmom on February 26, 2011, 01:10:23 AM
http://www.peru.com/noticias/portada20110225/141026/Termina-etapa-instructiva-del-caso-del-holandes-Joran-van-der-Sloot-

Google translation:

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/02252011_articlePerucom2.jpg)


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Post by: texasmom on February 26, 2011, 01:33:29 AM
http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/themes/diario/images/fb.jpg

2/26/2011 Diario Front Page

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/02262011_DiarioFP-1.jpg)
 ::snipping2::


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Post by: texasmom on February 26, 2011, 01:45:41 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanyandherfatherRicardoFlores.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 26, 2011, 01:52:00 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanyFlores_takentoosoon-1.jpg)



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 26, 2011, 01:58:49 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Grad00o9.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 26, 2011, 02:15:27 AM
Article from August, not sure if we caught it at the time or not.  I came across it tonight and thought some of the commentary was interesting...there were two drownings that day...the first one was a tourist from Colombia; I snipped that part of the article.  The second was an elderly woman that had been staying at the Westin Aruba Resort, and that's what this part of the article is about.

http://www.diario.aw/2010/08/diadomingo-scur-cu-dos-caso-di-hogamento/

Papiamentu translation:

diadomingo dark cu two caso of hogamento

publication: diadomingo, 8 august 2010.

categoria: general

 ::snipping2::

of two caso at westin sinembargo, for more or less 2:45 therefore.m., algo owing to bay bad on beach fast westin aruba resort. much sospechoso is the mature, cu hotel security owing to try at tapa the cos here a-la- joran van der sloot, y not owing to calling police. they owing to immidiately calling ask for ambulance. casi not owing to neither give detayes of thing is pasando.

hotel security of westin have one mentalidad of “gestapo”, esta cu they're believe cu they self can fix all problem, y at end hour cu they stay “pega”, the hour numa is core ask yudanza externo. then ambulance owing to arrive, y owing to come resulta cu one muher owing to hoga. so owing to come achieve know of the seriedad of the caso, y owing to cuminza help door of aplica cpr.

prensa also owing to arrive, y canando on beach publico, behold hotel security owing to come stroba trabao of prensa. they owing to place hand on cameranan, y haci comosifuera cu the beach ey is “nan propiedad”. by what time westin owing to become owner of the beach? none rato prensa owing to lever territory of the hotel.

paramediconan all the time owing to cuminza practica cpr for deal at reanima the victima. is deal of one lady of edad, y casi the not was reacciona more. tog owing to follow cu cpr, place on brancard, y owing to leave bay cune in ambulance direction for hospital cu urgencia.

security wanted “sconde” all cos

all the time, hotel security y even one trahador of hotel dress in uniform oranje, owing to cuminza follow busca problem cu periodistanan aruban, y even push uno behind at one form ugly. after the trahador y the security was even “stimula” the turistanan present for they also haci same cu the periodistanan.

but turistanan not owing to worry cu the security stupid ey. because they does not for aruba bay “tapa” none caso more style of natalee holloway. es more, turistanan was contento cu prensa tey. they owing to stay “flabbergasted” of see con security wanted owing to “hush hush the local press”.

uno even owing to bisa: “we’re in aruba, grade in cuba!” as wait for cu security of westin listen esey good! of now provided that adelante, hour cu have one caso of abstraction big cu socede at westin, y cu formerly is immidiately leave write cu the caso is at one “highrise hotel”, kizas the instant owing to arrive for her name of westin leave write at big, for so everybody achieve know con good security is vigilando the territory here.

all the time, hour cu was transportando the tourist victima in ambulance, dado instant the lady owing to even as ‘reacciona’ back, y was give the personal speranza cu the is logrando. is the hour numa, then enough minuut after, at last is centro of alarma owing to dicidi at calling police y notifica they kico is pasando. more cu claro, command policial owing to become furious. they do not compronde what type of mentalidad security of westin have.

at hospital, the personal profesional owing to haci all they esfuerzo but not owing to succeed save the person. for more or less 3:00 therefore.m., docter at keep at servicio of emergencia at hospital owing to constata dead of grace griffin berg, naci at u.s.a. day 27 of feburary 1927 y is kedando at westin aruba resort. according entendi the was biahando cu one girlfriend cu also is one person of edad.

kico exactly owing to socede? police not know, because security y empleadonan of westin casi does not open mouth, they wanted for all cos worde scondi, y they temor of more big is for her leave in prensa internacional. at family of jorge, y also family of grace, daily paper is extende his more deep word of condolencia.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 26, 2011, 02:28:22 AM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_50.jpg)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE,

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/machpicchusteph.jpg)

AND STEPHANY!

 ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 26, 2011, 12:18:05 PM
http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/28302-accidente-cu-morto-na-sta-cruz.html

Papiamentu translation:

cabayero achieve dead in pick-up at papilon

saturday, 26 february 2011 10:29

saturday morning trempan bisiñanan in becindario of jr autocenter at papilon owing to listen one sonido enough strong but not owing to realisa till in oranan more late of morning cu is deal of one car cu owing to drentra forest. owing to come achieve one man dead in the car

::snipping2::

at arrival of personal of ambulance, much more not can owing to wordo haci ja cu the chauffeur not was give more sign of life. doctor lin owing to present at the sitio y owing to constata dead of m. tromp live at nobelstraat naci 30 of october 1952. fiscal van deutekom also owing to present at sitio. according conocinan apparently "frannie" was abide of curason.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 26, 2011, 12:23:28 PM
This article is saying he hit his head on the dashboard?

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=6407&offId=0

CHOFER DI PICK-UP CU A BAHA CAMINDA DRENTA MONDI A SER HAYA SIN BIDA DEN E AUTO CU SU CABEZ ABAO DI E DASHBOARD


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 26, 2011, 12:30:45 PM
This article is saying he hit his head on the dashboard?

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=6407&offId=0

CHOFER DI PICK-UP CU A BAHA CAMINDA DRENTA MONDI A SER HAYA SIN BIDA DEN E AUTO CU SU CABEZ ABAO DI E DASHBOARD

That's what I think it says, can you hit your head on the dashboard hard enough that it breaks the windshield?
 ::MonkeyQuestion::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 26, 2011, 01:01:04 PM
Keep on drinking and blogging Julia...by all means!   ::monkeywine2::

Snipped from RU

Just more confirmation IMO that Joran confessed in 2005, and they all know it.  Considering the arrests and nature of the charges in 2005....IMO the confession then was quite a bit more detailed than what he told Patrick.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Renfro/02202011_Juliaanotherconfirmation.jpg)


 ::MonkeyHaHa::


(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Renfro/02202011_Juliaanotherconfirmation_resignedresponds.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 26, 2011, 02:05:52 PM
In her neverending quest for answers regarding the happenings encompassing the disappearance of her daughter ... the encounter with Joran van der Sloot in the Peruvian lockup was not Beth Holloway's only face to face.

+++++

Face to Face with Paulus

Loving Natalee – Beth Holloway

Page 147-151
:   Little beads of sweat form across Paulus’s brow and forehead.  My arms rest on top of the investigation notebook I carry with me all the time.  Natalee’s reward poster with her picture on it is inside the front clear cover, in plain view.  Paulus’s arms are on the table.  Our knuckles are only inches apart arms are shaking.  His fists are clenched.

"You're responsible for Aruba being trapped in hell," I tell him, still calm.  "You can change that.  But Aruba will stay in a perpetual state of hell until you come forward."

I gently push the notebook toward him so he can see Natalee.  Anita remains silent.  The breeze is blowing ever cooler through the room now, yet the sweat on Paulus is increasing.

“How did Joran get home that night, Paulus?”  He responds that he doesn’t know.  “Did he go to school the next day?”  He responds again that he doesn’t know.

Greta and I have many questions.  “you mean this is the most critical time in your son’s life – he is being held on suspicion of kidnap and murder – and you don’t know how he got home or if he went to school?”

Paulus stammers when he answers.  He hesitates.  He sounds unnatural and blinks rapidly.  His head is down.  The beads of sweat turn to bubbles that grow together and gather under his chin, then drop – splash – onto the table below.

Pulling a couple of prayer bracelets out of my pocket, I offer them to the van der Sloots.  First I tie one on Anita’s arm, then ask  Paulus if he would like one.  He lifts his clench-fisted arm, shaking as if he has Parkinson’s disease, and tries very hard to hold it up.  What a pathetic form of a man he is, I think – a very different person from the one who stood so brazenly in his front yard in the wee hours that first morning, facing down Aruban police and our men from home.  I take my time tying the bracelet, very, very slowly, and explain the meaning of the three cords of yarn.

“Paulus, this bracelet stands for a Bible verse.  It’s Ecclesiastes 4:12.  “Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves.  A cord of three stands is not quickly broken.””  I finish the tying and gently pat the knot.  “There you go.”

And right then the bracelet looks different to me.  I see the three cords as the suspects, and the knot as the end holding them together as Paulus.  It’s not just clear – it’s crystal clear.   There are potentially four people who know what happened to Natalee.  We need the knot to come loose and the three to unravel.

Anita gets a kitchen towel and first blots Paulus’s head.  Then she lays it on the pools of sweat that have formed on the table in front of him and, in one big swipe, folds the towel over and cleans it away.

No one could have predicted that this encounter would take place.
 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 26, 2011, 02:07:24 PM
Face to Face with the Aruban Prime Minister

'Scarborough Country' for Oct. 24th
updated 7:06 a.m. PT, Tues., Oct. 25, 2005


<snipped>

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY:  I met with Prime Minister Oduber. I don‘t care who you put the pressure on, where it comes from, but I want—you need to figure it out. You need to figure out who needs to apply the pressure and where it needs to be applied, because you have to solve this crime. I said, you do not want to turn me loose from this island without  an answer.  I will be the voice of Natalee for the next 40 years. And I hope I have that long, because I will do it as long as I can.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9813596/


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Post by: Tamikosmom on February 26, 2011, 02:10:57 PM

Face to Face with Deepak

Mother confronts Aruba suspect
Holloway's mother questions Kalpoe about disappearance of missing teen
August 9, 2005

 
<snipped>

It's been over nine weeks since Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway disappeared on the last night of her vacation in Aruba.  Since then, her mother Beth Holloway Twitty, has stayed on the island to take part in the search effort.

Her relentless determination for answers brought her face-to-face with Deepak Kalpoe, one of the three suspects involved in the disappearance. Under the guise of developing film, Beth Holloway showed up at the internet cafe where he works. 

She tells MSNBC-TV host Joe Scarborough that Deepak avoided her questions and avoided eye contact.

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: I don’t know how long I was in there.  It may have been an hour.  It could have been longer.  We went in there to develop some pictures, just trying to give Deepak an opportunity to talk to me.  We know that he has some answers.  And I think one of my biggest questions that I have is that Joran committed a sexual assault against Natalee in the car and we know Deepak and Satish were there. 

I just asked him, did you try to help Natalee or did you participate?  He can’t even answer that.  He would just either refer to it with silence or his attorney told him not to speak with me.  And I just can’t imagine, given that opportunity, that he would not want to take advantage of it to clear his name, with Natalee’s mother standing right there in front of him. 

JOE SCARBOROUGH, ‘SCARBOROUGH COUNTRY’ HOST: So, you went to this Internet cafe and asked him about the reports of the sexual assault or the rape in the car, and he just simply refused to answer? 

HOLLOWAY: Now, I can’t refer to it as rape, but I can refer to it as sexual assault.  That’s as far as I can go with it.  I know that some was occurring.  He would either answer me with silence, or would not look at me.  I had to keep telling him over and over again, pick your head up.  Look at me when I’m talking with you.  I’m trying to help you.  You know, look at the damage, look at what he’s doing to Aruba. 

The citizens, I’m sure, are outraged at how he is just disregarding any type of respect for maintaining Aruba’s integrity.  There are a lot of people that have been watching, and even from the U.S., and we all want answers and we’re giving him every opportunity to clear his name.  And he can’t do it.   

SCARBOROUGH: Did you, at any point in this meeting, just simply say, hey, listen, I don’t think you’re telling the truth; your story that you’ve been telling the police, or I guess I should say your stories, just don’t add up?  Did you call him a liar? 

HOLLOWAY: I didn’t call him a liar, but I can tell you, in that hour or hour-and-a-half I was there, I asked him repeatedly.  I was very persistent.  I did not stop.  I kept reminding him that we’ve got a $250,000 reward for the whereabouts of Natalee.  We are offering $1 million for her safe return.

We, as her family, are doing everything we can to make this worthwhile, to come forward.  We’re giving him lots of choices and opportunities to come forward and do the right thing.  I offered him to please come on one of the shows with me, yours tonight.   

But that just shows, some huge level of guilt and involvement.  He cannot even look at Natalee’s mother.  He can’t even deny it. 

SCARBOROUGH: Yes.  I think it’s absolutely fascinating that you go in there and he can’t even make eye contact with you, that, here you are, the person that’s obviously anguished by the disappearance of your daughter and possible death of your daughter, you go try to talk to him, and you’ve got to tell him, make eye contact with me; look in my eyes. 

So you sensed that he looked guilty to you?  Was he obviously intimidated by your presence in there? 

HOLLOWAY: I’ll tell you, he looked sick to me.  He looked sick with worry. 

All I saw were his eyelids the entire time, except when I would tell him he had to look at me.  That’s all I saw.  His head was down.  He was nervous.  I mean, he was just continually going back and forth to the computer, just frantically typing, just senseless typing.  I could see where I was seated that it was just senseless typing.  He was just that  fright or flight that someone gets, but he couldn’t flight, so all he had was fright in there. 

SCARBOROUGH: Now, is he following your campaign?

HOLLOWAY: Obviously, he was on duty. 

SCARBOROUGH: Yes, obviously on duty, trying to stay away from your questions. 

Is he aware of the campaign, the aggressive campaign that you’re going through every night on TV?  Does he understand that you’re not going away, that you’re going to keep going back on TV time and time again until you get justice for your daughter? 

HOLLOWAY: You know, I think he is truly aware of it.  I’m encouraged by the fact that he is watching.  I think he’s got a vested interest in this case, I thought it was amusing. 

The one question that he did ask me, and this was probably 10 minutes before I was leaving.  He told me that the media has not seen this side of you.  I told him, I’d been saving it for you, Deepak. 

SCARBOROUGH: What side is that? 

HOLLOWAY: I think it’s just the side that, I will stop at nothing to get answers.  There is nothing that I won’t do.  There’s nowhere that I won’t go.  I’m going to ask every question.  I don’t care how painful it is.  I will do it, because I’m not going to have any regrets.   

There are too many people that have been supporting me and they want answers too.  So, if I’m in the position to ask them, I need to take advantage of it.  I had the opportunity and I did the best I could, because, it’s a tragedy for Aruba and it’s a tragedy for all of us involved.  These citizens deserve better than that.  They’re good people here.  They do not deserve to be put through what Deepak and Satish Kalpoe and Joran Van Der Sloot and the father, Paulus, are putting them through.  They’re subjecting their country to this.  It’s a tragedy.  It is a shame. 

SCARBOROUGH: Did you ever ask him questions like, where is my daughter?  Is my daughter still alive?  Did you kill my daughter?  Did it ever go to that level, where you were really asking just the tough, tough questions? 

HOLLOWAY: Joe, I’ve got a lot more days on this island, so I’m not going anywhere.  I’ve got plenty of time.  I’ve got lots more pictures to be developed at the Internet cafe.   

SCARBOROUGH: Here we have, again, people writing around the United States, thousands of miles away, and yet they’re taking the posters down there.  Did you mention that to him?  Did you mention it to anybody in the store? 

HOLLOWAY: Oh, absolutely.  There was a customer at the counter at the same time I was there.  The man knew who I was.

I had to explain that the reward for the $1 million for a safe return and the $250,000 for her whereabouts, because, you know, the tourists that come here, they ask me, where are her posters?  Why don’t you have her posters up?  And, if I put them up, I can’t help it if this business owner took her poster down. 

It saddened me greatly, because we are trying everything we can, as her family, to bring forth a resolution.  But we’ve got to have some help.  And, for the most part, they remain in these businesses on the walls and on the glass doors, and that’s where we need to get the message out.  But, if I put one up and his owner, this is what Deepak told me, that his manager or boss made him take it down.  So, the only thing I know to do is to go back and try again. 

SCARBOROUGH: Do it again.  You were with Deepak for an hour, at least an hour.  You saw him avert his eyes from you.  You saw him look down.  You saw him type nervously.  Let's go back to the first night you got to the island, You immediately figured out that Joran and Paulus Van Der Sloot were involved just by reading their body language. 

After being in the presence of Deepak for an hour earlier today, are you convinced that he is involved in the disappearance of Natalee? 

HOLLOWAY: Oh, absolutely.  Anybody that was in there and saw him would agree 100 percent.  There wouldn’t be one person that didn’t believe that he had involvement if they would have been in there and witnessed and been in his presence.  There’s no one that wouldn’t believe that he has involvement.

<snipped>

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/8885950/


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 26, 2011, 02:14:08 PM
Face to Face with Deepak

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
 
Page 174:
  "Don't you want the money, Deepak?  Tell us what happened to Natalee."  He says only two thrings.  "I don't need the money."  Then, "The media have never seen this side of you."  To which I repliy, "I was saving it for you, Deepak."
 
I stood up for Natalee again today.  In the face of one of her Perpetrators.  And it felt good.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 26, 2011, 02:14:42 PM
Face to Face with Joran

Beth Holloway


Exerpts:

'I wanted to peel the skin off his face. I'm thinking this is it, this is my one chance and I'll never get this chance again.

'My eyes met his and we were face to face. The only thing I had left in me was just to speak from the heart.'
 
'Tell me what happen.  Let me take her home.'

'If he thinks I've been pestering him for the past five years, he hasn't seen anything yet.'

'There is more to come … there is more to come.'

September, 2010
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1327180/Natalee-Holloways-mother-comes-face-face-Joran-Van-der-Sloot-jail.html

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/archief/de-confrontatie-tussen-beth-en-joran/


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Post by: texasmom on February 26, 2011, 02:50:35 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Grad00o9.jpg)


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Post by: Tamikosmom on February 26, 2011, 03:06:56 PM
Others Might Learn

A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway


Page 200:  My child. My beautiful daughter. I can’t save her. It’s too late. Natalee is gone. And second to the great tragedy of losing her is if we fail to learn from what has happened.  I could be any parent in the world. And no parent should ever go through this experience. Natalee could be anyone’s daughter. And in these thoughts a new path is made clear. There is something I can do. Many people reached out to us, and I can now reach back to them. It might be too late to save Natalee, but it’s not too late to save others. And it’s time now to make good on my pledge to stand before high-school and college students, law enforcement professionals, victims’ rights groups, travelers of all ages, and anyone interested in personal safety to share Natalee’s story and our hard lessons, so that others might learn from them.

 :smt060

+++++

Natalee Holloway Resource Center (NHRC)
http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC

Mayday 360
http://www.mayday360.com/default.aspx


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Post by: Tamikosmom on February 26, 2011, 03:12:20 PM
Triumph Over Devastation

Loving Natalee
A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith


Page 19:  In each city I have the privilege to speak to several high schools, churches, or law enforcement and civic groups.  This translates to thousands of youths and adults.  Delivering this safety message is my triumph over devastation.  If gives me great joy and is tremendously rewarding work.  I think that I can bear the pain of losing Natalee if it means that I can prevent another family from going through our tragic experience.  If even just one young person in tens of thousands is saved, then it's well worth it.

:smt060


Natalee Holloway Resource Center (NHRC)
http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC
 
Mayday 360
http://www.mayday360.com/default.aspx


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Post by: Tamikosmom on February 26, 2011, 03:12:50 PM
SOUTHERN ARKANSAS UNIVERSITY TECH'S DISTINGUISHED SPEAKERS SERIES

Beth Holloway

Mother of Natalee Holloway, Speaker and Educator


SAU Tech is proud to announce Beth Holloway as the fourth annual distinguished speaker for 2011.  Holloway shares her experiences in facing a personal tragedy and shares how her faith, courage, dedication and strength has brought her through to today.  How does one muster the courage to persevere in the face of sheer adversity?  Do we all have capacity to overcome tragedy?  Find out as you listen to her story.

March 14, 2011
Charles O. Ross Center
Call For a Complimentary Ticket - 870.574.4521

<snipped>

http://www.sautech.edu/docs/Beth%20Holloway1.pdf


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 26, 2011, 04:45:02 PM
If those within the Aruban/Dutch administrations who were behind the cover up agenda ... the cover up agenda that has prevented justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway for almost six years ... thought for one minute that the case would eventually fade from media attention ... would in time become a distance memory ... they thought wrong.  The determination of a Mother's love was not anticipated.  Beth Holloway pledged in 2005 to be ongoing voice for her missing daughter and ... that amazing lady has come through big time.

++++++

There is More to Come

Beth Holloway


Exerpts:

'If he thinks I've been pestering him for the past five years, he hasn't seen anything
 yet.'

'There is more to come … there is more to come.'

September, 2010

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/archief/de-confrontatie-tussen-beth-en-joran/


Lifetime Orders 'Natalee Holloway' Movie Sequel, Reality Series WIth Holloway's Mom
BY NELLIE ANDREEVA | Wednesday February 23, 2011 @ 6:41pm PST


<snipped>

Justice for Natalee Holloway picks up several years after the events in the original movie. It chronicles the ongoing mystery of the 2005 disappearance of the Alabama teenager during her senior class trip to Aruba and her suspected killer Joran van der Sloot's series of conflicting (and so far false) clues about her fate. When van der Sloot demands $250,000 from Beth to reveal the location of Natalee's remains, she and her attorney John Kelly partner with the FBI to build a case against him. But before they can, van der Sloot is arrested in Peru for the murder of a young woman on the 5th anniversary of Natalee's disappearance.

<snipped>

http://m.deadline.com/2011/02/lifetime-orders-natalee-holloway-movie-sequel-reality-series-with-holloways-mom/


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 26, 2011, 08:42:24 PM
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/memory

 ::snipping2::


Synonym Discussion of MEMORY

memory, remembrance, recollection, reminiscence mean the capacity for or the act of remembering, or the thing remembered. memory applies both to the power of remembering and to what is remembered <gifted with a remarkable memory> <that incident was now just a distant memory>. remembrance applies to the act of remembering or the fact of being remembered <any remembrance of his deceased wife was painful>. recollection adds an implication of consciously bringing back to mind often with some effort <after a moment's recollection he produced the name>. reminiscence suggests the recalling of usually pleasant incidents, experiences, or feelings from a remote past <my grandmother's reminiscences of her Iowa girlhood>.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 26, 2011, 08:46:06 PM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/28317-turista-a-bira-malo-na-arashi-.html

Papiamentu translation:

tourist owing to become bad at arashi

saturday, 26 february 2011 19:44

saturday afternoon autoridadnan owing to bay at once at arashi for one pareha tourist cu owing to become bad in sea, but hour owing to arrive owing to come across cu the two turistanan at canto end ricibiendo asistencia of one enfermera at the sitio.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 26, 2011, 08:51:49 PM
http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/28315-pica-den-laman-a-laga-turista-lam.html

Papiamentu translation:

pica in sea owing to let tourist lam

saturday, 26 february 2011 16:57

one tourist mericano of edad young owing to feel one beast pik'e in sea at height of phoenix hotel. ambulance owing to present at once at the sitio because his family owing to tell cu the do not feel his leg more.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 26, 2011, 10:03:29 PM
What happened to this American tourist?


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 26, 2011, 10:10:54 PM
What happened to this American tourist?

Bitten or stung by a fish of some kind?  I'm not sure...


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 26, 2011, 10:21:46 PM
What happened to this American tourist?

Bitten or stung by a fish of some kind?  I'm not sure...

Ah and she/he can't feel his leg?   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 26, 2011, 10:32:57 PM
What happened to this American tourist?

Bitten or stung by a fish of some kind?  I'm not sure...

Ah and she/he can't feel his leg?   ::MonkeyEek::

That's what the article said.  Scary huh?   ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 26, 2011, 10:46:37 PM
http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_flippingbook&book_id=2

2/26/2011 Bondia Front Page

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/02262011_Bondia01a-1.jpg)

I think it basically says what the other articles have said...

I typed out that last paragraph since I saw "liber" which means set free and translates to "pound" with the pap translator;  this is what it says

Papiamentu translation:

the posibilidadnan for joran leave pound is being considera minimo y now have cu wait for the decision cu fiscalia superior will take for her proceso cu have cu follow awo


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 26, 2011, 10:56:20 PM
Anita's "likes" on FB have been missing lately...wonder what's up?  Last one I noticed was about three weeks ago.  Odd, believe me.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on February 26, 2011, 11:48:26 PM
Anita's "likes" on FB have been missing lately...wonder what's up?  Last one I noticed was about three weeks ago.  Odd, believe me.   ::MonkeyWink::

That is odd


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on February 27, 2011, 12:27:40 AM
Did I miss this while I was away for a bit?

Bishop Eddie Long Hires Famous Private Investigator to Fight Sex Scandal
Famed Private Eye T. J. Ward Will Look into Allegations Made by Four Accusers in Eddie Long Sex Scandal

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5855076/bishop_eddie_long_hires_famous_private.html

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 27, 2011, 03:58:11 AM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Grad00o9.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanyFlores_takentoosoon-1.jpg)

Justice for Natalee and Stephany!
 ::MonkeyJustice::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: San on February 27, 2011, 07:07:33 AM
Did I miss this while I was away for a bit?

Bishop Eddie Long Hires Famous Private Investigator to Fight Sex Scandal
Famed Private Eye T. J. Ward Will Look into Allegations Made by Four Accusers in Eddie Long Sex Scandal

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5855076/bishop_eddie_long_hires_famous_private.html

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Hi Keepthefaith, I think Rob had mentioned something about this but thanks for the article anyway.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: sharon on February 27, 2011, 09:15:24 AM
http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/lifetime-orders-natalee-holloway-movie-sequel-reality-series-with-holloways-mom/ (http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/lifetime-orders-natalee-holloway-movie-sequel-reality-series-with-holloways-mom/)

Lifetime Orders 'Natalee Holloway' Movie Sequel, Reality Series WIth Holloway's Mom

EXCLUSIVE: Two years after the Natalee Holloway telefilm set ratings records for Lifetime Movie Network, Lifetime has greenlit a sequel, Justice for Natalee Holloway, and Vanished with Beth Holloway, a 10-episode reality series starring Natalee Holloway's mom, which examines some of America's most disturbing unsolved cases. Both have started filming and will air on the flagship Lifetime channel.

Justice for Natalee Holloway picks up several years after the events in the original movie. It chronicles the ongoing mystery of the 2005 disappearance of the Alabama

 ::snipping2::

I saw the promo for this sequel last week -- included an interview with Tracey and a few others.  There was no mincing words of the opinion of Joran -- and the unforgivable acts he was 'allowed' to commit. 'Permitted' behavior.

There is no rock on this planet large enough for you to crawl under Anita. It's never too late for the truth. It will set you free.


AVOID ARUBA AS IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT...IT DOES!!!!

Justice for Natalee HOlloway


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: sharon on February 27, 2011, 09:25:50 AM
 ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 27, 2011, 09:56:30 AM
http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/lifetime-orders-natalee-holloway-movie-sequel-reality-series-with-holloways-mom/ (http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/lifetime-orders-natalee-holloway-movie-sequel-reality-series-with-holloways-mom/)

Lifetime Orders 'Natalee Holloway' Movie Sequel, Reality Series WIth Holloway's Mom

EXCLUSIVE: Two years after the Natalee Holloway telefilm set ratings records for Lifetime Movie Network, Lifetime has greenlit a sequel, Justice for Natalee Holloway, and Vanished with Beth Holloway, a 10-episode reality series starring Natalee Holloway's mom, which examines some of America's most disturbing unsolved cases. Both have started filming and will air on the flagship Lifetime channel.

Justice for Natalee Holloway picks up several years after the events in the original movie. It chronicles the ongoing mystery of the 2005 disappearance of the Alabama

 ::snipping2::

I saw the promo for this sequel last week -- included an interview with Tracey and a few others.  There was no mincing words of the opinion of Joran -- and the unforgivable acts he was 'allowed' to commit. 'Permitted' behavior.

There is no rock on this planet large enough for you to crawl under Anita. It's never too late for the truth. It will set you free.


AVOID ARUBA AS IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT...IT DOES!!!!

Justice for Natalee HOlloway

Wow, thanks Sharon....I can't wait to see it!   ::MonkeyDance::

ITA about Anita, no rock big enough.  I'm sure she's working on a diversion of some sort no matter how ridiculous it might be.  That's the way she works; despicable! 

It will be interesting to me to see if the authorities in Aruba look the other way with Sebastian too.  From my observations he has issues and I have a feeling he will have some run-ins with the law as well.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 27, 2011, 10:03:59 AM
Silly videos for the most part...but I thought the comment about being 18 to drive but 16 to drink was interesting...

http://www.musicaperu.org/peru/e6CQrxmV5Cg/oriellamansur-s-QuickCapture-Video-January-24-2009-07-03-PM.html

Oriella is the younger daughter of Jossy E. and Orietta Mansur...we saw the lavish party for her 15 year old sister a few months ago (pics of Anita and Sebas dancing there).  I think Oriella is in the eighth grade now, so I guess in 2009 she would have been a sixth grader.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 27, 2011, 10:04:49 AM
::HelloKitty::

 ::HelloKitty:: ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 27, 2011, 10:52:29 AM
http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/lifetime-orders-natalee-holloway-movie-sequel-reality-series-with-holloways-mom/ (http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/lifetime-orders-natalee-holloway-movie-sequel-reality-series-with-holloways-mom/)

Lifetime Orders 'Natalee Holloway' Movie Sequel, Reality Series WIth Holloway's Mom

EXCLUSIVE: Two years after the Natalee Holloway telefilm set ratings records for Lifetime Movie Network, Lifetime has greenlit a sequel, Justice for Natalee Holloway, and Vanished with Beth Holloway, a 10-episode reality series starring Natalee Holloway's mom, which examines some of America's most disturbing unsolved cases. Both have started filming and will air on the flagship Lifetime channel.

Justice for Natalee Holloway picks up several years after the events in the original movie. It chronicles the ongoing mystery of the 2005 disappearance of the Alabama

 ::snipping2::

I saw the promo for this sequel last week -- included an interview with Tracey and a few others.  There was no mincing words of the opinion of Joran -- and the unforgivable acts he was 'allowed' to commit. 'Permitted' behavior.

There is no rock on this planet large enough for you to crawl under Anita. It's never too late for the truth. It will set you free.


AVOID ARUBA AS IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT...IT DOES!!!!

Justice for Natalee HOlloway


 ::HelloKitty::

++++++


Joran van der Sloot

'I wanted to get back at Natalee's family - her parents have been making my life tough for five years.'


http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-true-story-book/zMY1TGGVkU2Kc8LMCiU6pA.cspx

 
Beth Holloway

'If he thinks I've been pestering him for the past five years, he hasn't seen anything yet.'

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/archief/de-confrontatie-tussen-beth-en-joran/


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on February 27, 2011, 05:59:04 PM
Did I miss this while I was away for a bit?

Bishop Eddie Long Hires Famous Private Investigator to Fight Sex Scandal
Famed Private Eye T. J. Ward Will Look into Allegations Made by Four Accusers in Eddie Long Sex Scandal

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5855076/bishop_eddie_long_hires_famous_private.html

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Hi Keepthefaith, I think Rob had mentioned something about this but thanks for the article anyway.
Thanks San. The response is appreciated. ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 28, 2011, 12:24:00 AM
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Peru-has-decision-to-make-in-van-der-Sloot-murder/OzCjqbkhhkSMEyKFYrHk2Q.cspx?rss=1659

Peru has decision to make in van der Sloot murder case

Last Update: 9:04 am
 
         
It's decision time for the Peruvian legal system...whether Joran van der Sloot will be formally charged with murder. Reports in both Dutch and Peruvian media say the government has completed its investigation in the case. The public prosecutor must now decide whether to proceed with the case.

For almost a year it's been the kind of story where reality defies imagination.  Almost nothing is stranger than what's been happening on an almost daily basis.

 ::snipping2:: (read complete article at the link above)

Meanwhile, van der Sloot's stay in the Castro Castro prison has been a media circus.  There are reports of multiple marriage proposals from around the world.  He was involved in a series of controversial photographs including an international hitman and an American also accused of killing a Peruvian woman.  Prison officials have been reprimanded for irregularities involving a string of Dutch television interviews including one where Natalee's mother Beth Holloway confronted van der Sloot in the warden's office while hidden cameras rolled.  He's been accused of getting favorable treatment, buying drugs from guards and attempting escape.

So what's next?  Beth Holloway is reportedly working on a movie and a reality series while the world waits on the Peruvian legal system.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 28, 2011, 12:26:39 AM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Grad00o9.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanyFlores_takentoosoon-1.jpg)

Justice for Natalee and Stephany!
 ::MonkeyJustice::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: SuzieQ on February 28, 2011, 01:01:39 PM
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Prosecutor-wants-30-year-sentence-for-van-der/ltLeFuo5SES8BkgKSYg3IA.cspx

Prosecutor wants 30 year sentence for van der Sloot

Peruvian prosecutors say the crime Joran van der Sloot is accused of was particularly cruel and have asked for a 30 year prison sentence if convicted.

The Dutch newspaper de Telegraaf says their source is van der Sloot's lawyer, Max Altez.

The Dutchman is accused of murdering 21 year old Peruvian student Stephany Flores. Her body was found in van der Sloot's Lima hotel room five years to the day of the disappearance of Mountain Brook teenager Natalee Holloway on a school trip to Aruba

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: SuzieQ on February 28, 2011, 01:05:52 PM
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2011/02/joran_van_der_sloot_faces_30_y.php

Joran van der Sloot faces 30 years for Peruvian murder
Monday 28 February 2011

Dutchman Joran van der Sloot faces 30 years in jail if found guilty of murdering a young Peruvian woman last year.


The public prosecution department in Lima has told Van der Sloot's lawyer he will press for 30 years, the Telegraaf reports. The investigation into the murder of Stephany Flores has now been completed, the paper said.

The maximum sentence for murder in Peru is 20 years, but this can be increased for particularly savage crimes. Van der Sloot is also accused of stealing the young woman´s money, laptop and car, allowing prosecutors to aim for 30 years.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 28, 2011, 10:39:55 PM
Thanks SuzieQ

 ::MonkeyGavel::



November 19, 2008:

BETH HOLLOWAY: And Greta, I was just wanting to say that, you know, like I said, it's been a long time, but it's never too late for justice. And I'd be good with a "Midnight Express" prison anywhere for Joran.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454527,00.html



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 28, 2011, 11:00:58 PM
http://www.amigoenieuws.com/PDF%20amigoearu/28-02-2011a.pdf

Google translation:

Research Joran completed

ORANGE CITY / LIMA - The Judicial Research the murder of 21-year-old Stephany Flores is completed, reports news agency ANP. The public prosecutor in Peru must now decide whether the prime suspect Joran van der Sloot will be effectively prosecuted.  The OM is enough evidence to the Dutch suspect to sue for the robbery of Flores.  Joran's lawyer suggests in the Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf that all the Peruvian FOR thirty years in prison goes against his demands client. Chief Peter (Blanken)Whites of Aruba OM told this newspaper that it is very unusual for the prosecution to advance rulings to decide on a sentence demanded.  (Blanken) Whites suspects that the lawyer with his statement indicates that Peruvian justice deal with the case qualified as a so-called murder. It is demonstrated a relationship between the murder and robbery the money, the laptop and the car of the victim. This aggravating circumstances, the Peruvian maximum penalty of twenty years to increase to murder thirty years. The cruel the murder could endanger- affect the level of the sentence demanded. Whites implies a blow to the arm and tells the system in Peru was different from that of Aruba. In our country For example, the Public Ministry responsible for research, while more research in Peru in the hands of the police and led by a judge. 

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 28, 2011, 11:42:39 PM
http://www.diario.aw/2011/02/e-personal-di-kia-a-bati-e-presonan-indefenso/

Papiamentu translation:

(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/jossy_mansur_pic-150x150.jpg)

the personal of kia owing to beat the presonan indefenso?

publication: monday, 28 feburary 2011.

categoria: editorial

at redaccion of daily paper is yegando more y more copia of cartanan send for various instancia internacional important for of one “comision for her presonan of kia”, in cual they're expone cu in the caso of the mutiny of the presonan cu owing to lever the roof of kia in protest contra thing they're considera one trato inhusto, they owing to being supuestamente beat while cu they was domina end y they hands was geboei. for we is dificil determina if the denuncia is corecto or not, pesey the comentario here is bay is basa on the mature cu in my concepto, una vez do you domina one rebel cu owing to arise contra autoridad in cualke form, as pacifico or not, y do you tine at boei y at rudiya, is innecesario aremete contra dje cu golpi in sign of venganza or liberation of angry.

we not know if esey was the caso because not have none evidencia cu is constata esey, but we have the informacion concreto cu have one investigacion andando y cu will come one claridad absolute of the caso. if the supuesto batimento of berdad did take lugar, y evidencianan surgi cu is so, then the aruba cu i conoce y cu i love without reserva of none clase, do not existi more, because in the aruba ey the respet for one being human, for his integridad fisico, for his derechonan of being human, was goza of one status preferencial, as cu the is one person pound or one detenido.

we all can constata cu the aruba sano y pound of peligronan big cu we owing to conoce practicamente do not existi more, excepto the balornan cu one people grandioso owing to conserva because; his guia y cu is give speranza cu we can go back some day at thing we was first cu the decadencia owing to penetra. the respet cu always we owing to show another tey, palpable, bisto in thousand y one ocasion, but near of dje also are you achieve one kibramento cu the normanan cu owing to haci we people big. the responsablenan is some, but they actonan is notable in the damage cu they're cause.

another of the kehonan cu is being write for her are defensor of the presonan is cu the autoridadnan of jail or pafo of dje is deny for they advocate visit they. this niether owing to being constata or confirma till now. of all as will have to have the posibilidad for one person neutral (manera one docter, can ehemplo) being permiti for visit the presonan for give one relato profesional of thing the will observa. so all doubt will being despeha.

anything is assure always i have demostra one confianza big in we cuerpo policial because i am believe in they y in the value of they trabao, same cu i have demostra also y is follow demostra my desconfianza overall in some of the hueznan dutch activo at aruba because according the sentencianan grotesco cu they owing to emiti, my do not considera they neither imparcial neither administradornan of husticia, but simple interpretanan of ley y his aplicacion.

y the desconfianza is data for of the time of natalee holloway! besides, for i have one great diferencia among administra husticia y impone one ley cu can sucumbi for her caprice personal of cualke huez cu can interprete at his desire!

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on February 28, 2011, 11:44:09 PM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Grad00o9.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanyFlores_takentoosoon-1.jpg)

Justice for Natalee and Stephany!
 ::MonkeyJustice::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: carpe noctem on March 01, 2011, 01:34:39 AM
I'm test driving my brand new lappie I got for my birthday. I mean to tell you this thing is
the blue ribbon cow titties!!!!

I was using two models between 2005-2011. I was being a sport as they slowly degraded.
A little duct tape here - a tweak there - lost some of my keys on one, and it made me
appear to talk funny.

One day - they both took a poot... and the end I knew was coming had finally arrived.

Introducing the all new Natalee Ann III

This thing is awesome. So powerful, yet so small. I just love it.

I thoroughly plan to haunt the sloots with it... til the bitter end that they know is coming.

It's high def, so my insults that I frequently send out in Joran and Anita's generallll directiooon
should be more crisp & biting than ever! In fact, due to great advancements in battery technology,
I should be able to insult them much longer and harder than ever using only one measly charge up.

I ordered it in black - to celebrate Joran's well deserved death in advance!

I don't want to be tardy for his par-tay. I want to jump right on and type in

F the B! When the jug headed loser goon boy gets it directly in his cookie sack. ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: carpe noctem on March 01, 2011, 02:04:23 AM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Grad00o9.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanyFlores_takentoosoon-1.jpg)

Justice for Natalee and Stephany!
 ::MonkeyJustice::



SEMPER FI

"Always about Natalee & Stephany"

"Always Faithful"  ::MonkeyAngel::

"Right to the end, my friends." ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Blue Moon on March 01, 2011, 08:02:59 AM
I'm test driving my brand new lappie I got for my birthday. I mean to tell you this thing is
the blue ribbon cow titties!!!!

I was using two models between 2005-2011. I was being a sport as they slowly degraded.
A little duct tape here - a tweak there - lost some of my keys on one, and it made me
appear to talk funny.

One day - they both took a poot... and the end I knew was coming had finally arrived.

Introducing the all new Natalee Ann III

This thing is awesome. So powerful, yet so small. I just love it.

I thoroughly plan to haunt the sloots with it... til the bitter end that they know is coming.

It's high def, so my insults that I frequently send out in Joran and Anita's generallll directiooon
should be more crisp & biting than ever! In fact, due to great advancements in battery technology,
I should be able to insult them much longer and harder than ever using only one measly charge up.

I ordered it in black - to celebrate Joran's well deserved death in advance!

I don't want to be tardy for his par-tay. I want to jump right on and type in

F the B! When the jug headed loser goon boy gets it directly in his cookie sack. ::monkeywine2::

 ::HelloKitty::  ::HelloKitty::   ::monkeywine2::

(you want do.  you are sooooooooo funny---But I love your spirit)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 01, 2011, 09:39:44 AM
Carpe - your lappy works perfect!   It's like it was built for you!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 01, 2011, 10:06:30 AM
Great stuff Carpe. I have no doubts that it will get maximum use. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 01, 2011, 04:44:09 PM
One more reason not to go to Aruba.  Lionfish:

http://amigoenieuws.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4083:koraalduiveljacht&catid=151:artikel-headline-aruba&Itemid=200 (http://amigoenieuws.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4083:koraalduiveljacht&catid=151:artikel-headline-aruba&Itemid=200)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5052/5489558823_bd760996ae_b.jpg)



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 01, 2011, 08:09:07 PM
I'm test driving my brand new lappie I got for my birthday. I mean to tell you this thing is
the blue ribbon cow titties!!!!

I was using two models between 2005-2011. I was being a sport as they slowly degraded.
A little duct tape here - a tweak there - lost some of my keys on one, and it made me
appear to talk funny.

One day - they both took a poot... and the end I knew was coming had finally arrived.

Introducing the all new Natalee Ann III

This thing is awesome. So powerful, yet so small. I just love it.

I thoroughly plan to haunt the sloots with it... til the bitter end that they know is coming.

It's high def, so my insults that I frequently send out in Joran and Anita's generallll directiooon
should be more crisp & biting than ever! In fact, due to great advancements in battery technology,
I should be able to insult them much longer and harder than ever using only one measly charge up.

I ordered it in black - to celebrate Joran's well deserved death in advance!

I don't want to be tardy for his par-tay. I want to jump right on and type in

F the B! When the jug headed loser goon boy gets it directly in his cookie sack. ::monkeywine2::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

I want whatever Carpe's having!!    ::MonkeyDance::

 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: SuzieQ on March 01, 2011, 08:28:17 PM
They have goofed. This guy is way too good looking to portray Joran.

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff15/sueann37/amell2-150x150.jpg)

 Stephen Amell (Vampire Diaries) has been cast in a recurring role on the upcoming third season of HBO's comedy series Hung. He will play Jason, a rival gigolo of Ray Drecker (Thomas Jane) who is described as super sexy with a good physique and possessing a sweetness to him that makes him very charismatic. Amell, who just signed on to star as Joran van der Sloot in the Lifetime movie Justice for Natalee, is with SMS and Leverage
 ::snipping2::

http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/hbo-adds-actors-to-hung-boardwalk-empire/


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 01, 2011, 08:36:11 PM
DON'T MISS THE DANA PRETZER SHOW TONIGHT AT 9PM ET:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5140/5490651894_80eaab4f20_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 01, 2011, 08:55:04 PM
If you get the biography channel, "The Real Joran Van Der Sloot" airs at 9:00 Eastern.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 01, 2011, 09:17:51 PM
If you get the biography channel, "The Real Joran Van Der Sloot" airs at 9:00 Eastern.

Is this a new one?


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 01, 2011, 09:40:43 PM
I'm test driving my brand new lappie I got for my birthday. I mean to tell you this thing is
the blue ribbon cow titties!!!!

I was using two models between 2005-2011. I was being a sport as they slowly degraded.
A little duct tape here - a tweak there - lost some of my keys on one, and it made me
appear to talk funny.

One day - they both took a poot... and the end I knew was coming had finally arrived.

Introducing the all new Natalee Ann III

This thing is awesome. So powerful, yet so small. I just love it.

I thoroughly plan to haunt the sloots with it... til the bitter end that they know is coming.

It's high def, so my insults that I frequently send out in Joran and Anita's generallll directiooon
should be more crisp & biting than ever! In fact, due to great advancements in battery technology,
I should be able to insult them much longer and harder than ever using only one measly charge up.

I ordered it in black - to celebrate Joran's well deserved death in advance!

I don't want to be tardy for his par-tay. I want to jump right on and type in

F the B! When the jug headed loser goon boy gets it directly in his cookie sack. ::monkeywine2::

Congrats on your new weapon Carpe, I bet it's awesome...just like you!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 01, 2011, 09:48:49 PM
If you get the biography channel, "The Real Joran Van Der Sloot" airs at 9:00 Eastern.

Is this a new one?

It has been on before, but maybe on another channel?  It's the one with Aline and her lies....and that weirdo guy that supposedly went to Paulus' memorial.

http://www.biography.com/video.do?name=biography&bcpid=28522551001&bclid=605799120001&bctid=605800868001


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 01, 2011, 09:53:50 PM
If you get the biography channel, "The Real Joran Van Der Sloot" airs at 9:00 Eastern.

Is this a new one?

It has been on before, but maybe on another channel?  It's the one with Aline and her lies....and that weirdo guy that supposedly went to Paulus' memorial.

http://www.biography.com/video.do?name=biography&bcpid=28522551001&bclid=605799120001&bctid=605800868001

John Ludwick, I couldn't remember his name.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 01, 2011, 09:54:34 PM
They have goofed. This guy is way too good looking to portray Joran.

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff15/sueann37/amell2-150x150.jpg)

 Stephen Amell (Vampire Diaries) has been cast in a recurring role on the upcoming third season of HBO's comedy series Hung. He will play Jason, a rival gigolo of Ray Drecker (Thomas Jane) who is described as super sexy with a good physique and possessing a sweetness to him that makes him very charismatic. Amell, who just signed on to star as Joran van der Sloot in the Lifetime movie Justice for Natalee, is with SMS and Leverage
 ::snipping2::

http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/hbo-adds-actors-to-hung-boardwalk-empire/

I agree 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 01, 2011, 10:46:49 PM
If you get the biography channel, "The Real Joran Van Der Sloot" airs at 9:00 Eastern.

Is this a new one?

I recorded it, Klaas, so I'm not sure................. I'll go see.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 01, 2011, 10:49:43 PM
They have goofed. This guy is way too good looking to portray Joran.

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff15/sueann37/amell2-150x150.jpg)

 Stephen Amell (Vampire Diaries) has been cast in a recurring role on the upcoming third season of HBO's comedy series Hung. He will play Jason, a rival gigolo of Ray Drecker (Thomas Jane) who is described as super sexy with a good physique and possessing a sweetness to him that makes him very charismatic. Amell, who just signed on to star as Joran van der Sloot in the Lifetime movie Justice for Natalee, is with SMS and Leverage
 ::snipping2::

http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/hbo-adds-actors-to-hung-boardwalk-empire/

I agree 

Maybe they'll put some of that ugly monster makeup on him.  That would work!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 01, 2011, 10:50:18 PM
If you get the biography channel, "The Real Joran Van Der Sloot" airs at 9:00 Eastern.

Is this a new one?

It has been on before, but maybe on another channel?  It's the one with Aline and her lies....and that weirdo guy that supposedly went to Paulus' memorial.

http://www.biography.com/video.do?name=biography&bcpid=28522551001&bclid=605799120001&bctid=605800868001

^
TM beat me to it! Yeah, it's that one! 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 01, 2011, 10:53:24 PM

They have goofed. This guy is way too good looking to portray Joran.

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff15/sueann37/amell2-150x150.jpg)

 Stephen Amell (Vampire Diaries) has been cast in a recurring role on the upcoming third season of HBO's comedy series Hung. He will play Jason, a rival gigolo of Ray Drecker (Thomas Jane) who is described as super sexy with a good physique and possessing a sweetness to him that makes him very charismatic. Amell, who just signed on to star as Joran van der Sloot in the Lifetime movie Justice for Natalee, is with SMS and Leverage
 ::snipping2::

http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/hbo-adds-actors-to-hung-boardwalk-empire/

I agree 

Maybe they'll put some of that ugly monster makeup on him.  That would work!

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Um hum...... lots of it! Banging his head on something could also be useful, if it would cause severe swelling up to the size of Joran's huge melon.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 01, 2011, 11:06:21 PM

They have goofed. This guy is way too good looking to portray Joran.

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff15/sueann37/amell2-150x150.jpg)

 Stephen Amell (Vampire Diaries) has been cast in a recurring role on the upcoming third season of HBO's comedy series Hung. He will play Jason, a rival gigolo of Ray Drecker (Thomas Jane) who is described as super sexy with a good physique and possessing a sweetness to him that makes him very charismatic. Amell, who just signed on to star as Joran van der Sloot in the Lifetime movie Justice for Natalee, is with SMS and Leverage
 ::snipping2::

http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/hbo-adds-actors-to-hung-boardwalk-empire/

I agree 

Maybe they'll put some of that ugly monster makeup on him.  That would work!

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Um hum...... lots of it! Banging his head on something could also be useful, if it would cause severe swelling up to the size of Joran's huge melon.

He'll need some brown "dead eyes" contacts too.  That guys eyes are way too pretty for Joran!   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 01, 2011, 11:08:42 PM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Grad00o9.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanyFlores_takentoosoon-1.jpg)

Justice for Natalee and Stephany!


 ::MonkeyJustice::



SEMPER FI

"Always about Natalee & Stephany"

"Always Faithful"  ::MonkeyAngel::

"Right to the end, my friends." ::HelloKitty::
::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: billb's daughter on March 02, 2011, 02:18:32 AM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Grad00o9.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanyFlores_takentoosoon-1.jpg)

Justice for Natalee and Stephany!
 ::MonkeyJustice::



SEMPER FI

"Always about Natalee & Stephany"

"Always Faithful"  ::MonkeyAngel::

"Right to the end, my friends." ::HelloKitty::
SEMPER FI my friend.....
It is all about Natalee and Stephany....
Justice is just around the corner......


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: carpe noctem on March 02, 2011, 07:48:17 PM
They have goofed. This guy is way too good looking to portray Joran.

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff15/sueann37/amell2-150x150.jpg)

 Stephen Amell (Vampire Diaries) has been cast in a recurring role on the upcoming third season of HBO's comedy series Hung. He will play Jason, a rival gigolo of Ray Drecker (Thomas Jane) who is described as super sexy with a good physique and possessing a sweetness to him that makes him very charismatic. Amell, who just signed on to star as Joran van der Sloot in the Lifetime movie Justice for Natalee, is with SMS and Leverage
 ::snipping2::

http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/hbo-adds-actors-to-hung-boardwalk-empire/


You know who would make a good Joran look-alike? That little creep-a-zoid Justin Bieber! ::MonkeyHaHa::

He's got the attack of the killer eye brows thing going on. I need to get my photoshop loaded up on this thing and give Joran a Bieber hairdo. Maybe somebody will beat me to it. Go ahead, I won't be mad. ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on March 02, 2011, 09:29:43 PM
They have goofed. This guy is way too good looking to portray Joran.

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff15/sueann37/amell2-150x150.jpg)

 Stephen Amell (Vampire Diaries) has been cast in a recurring role on the upcoming third season of HBO's comedy series Hung. He will play Jason, a rival gigolo of Ray Drecker (Thomas Jane) who is described as super sexy with a good physique and possessing a sweetness to him that makes him very charismatic. Amell, who just signed on to star as Joran van der Sloot in the Lifetime movie Justice for Natalee, is with SMS and Leverage
 ::snipping2::

http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/hbo-adds-actors-to-hung-boardwalk-empire/


You know who would make a good Joran look-alike? That little creep-a-zoid Justin Bieber! ::MonkeyHaHa::

He's got the attack of the killer eye brows thing going on. I need to get my photoshop loaded up on this thing and give Joran a Bieber hairdo. Maybe somebody will beat me to it. Go ahead, I won't be mad. ::MonkeyDance::
Well -- I agree that having Justin Beiber portray him would really piss him off!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa:: On second thought........knowing Joran's "proclivities" --- he might just have a crush on him ("Beiber Fever")  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 02, 2011, 10:42:41 PM
http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6517&Itemid=1

Papiamentu translation:

young cu bad beverage

monday, 28 february 2011

noord- one young of 15 year owing to being achieve behind two car staciona on the caminda of shaba for bubali saturday nightfall, after cu parada owing to end of happen. one girlfriend of dje owing to informa cu past did take one ‘drinks’ of one amigo of scol y cu hour cu past owing to end of drink this, past owing to cuminsa feel bad. owing to being think cu will was deal of alcohol already cu past owing to saca y even urina all his cloths but owing to hink’e in car y owing to hib’e his cas without know kico genuinely owing to happen cu n’e. past owing to come desperta diadomingo nightfall hour cu his parents was in proceso for hib’e hospital already cu the not was reacciona.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 02, 2011, 10:55:50 PM
TM - go ahead and post that entire Bondia article.  The one you emailed me  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 02, 2011, 11:00:20 PM
(I had to type it out to translate it so it may not be perfect.)

http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_flippingbook&book_id=2

3/1/2011 Bondia Page 2

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/03012011_BondiaPage2.jpg)

Papiamentu translation:

lifetime is ask aid of good morning aruba

oranjestad – lifetime channel is busca aid of media y reporteronan aruban for follow cu the sage of the young desaparaci at aruba, natalee holloway. for of some day end, the compania is mercadeando one of two pelicula on natalee holloway, where the trip here the enfoke will is on the struggle of his mother beth twitty.

apart from the of two pelicula where lifetime is wait for of surpasa the exito of the first, the compania will lanza one derie cu sra. twitty because; anfitrion. in “vanished”, twitty will explora casonan of personanan desapareci, as his child.

have to tell cu lifetime, at instant of owing to work the first pelicula on natalee holloway y now “justice for natalee,” not did take contacto cu prensa at aruba, till so far cu good morning aruba can did take notice owing to base of the creditonan in the pelicula. but, in the serie “vanished” where near of another casonan of personanan desapareci will go back enfoca on holloway, now wanted potret licencia of all the personanan envolvi, for of joran van der sloot till at the rumannan kalpoe y others.

cu this in mind also, productor asocia for vanished, crystal bell, at name of his producer melissa may owing to acerca good morning aruba for send the potretnan here. good morning aruba owing to deny of haci this basa on argument cu majority aruban, without importa kico is they opinion on the hechonan self, not owing to feel cu the first policula of lifetime on the desaparicion of natalee holloway was for genuinely show the berdad. the enfoke of lifetime is for sensacionaolisa the storia y for gama coin. more still, not owing to as cuenta cu the near of aruba. because; such, good morning aruba will not coopera cu the serie “vanished” niether, mirando cu not can wait for one trato fair of lifetime.

the compania is in buskeda of “rating” y because; such, will do not interesa for is fair cu aruba, y particulamente will do not interesa in we sistema hudicial. good morning aruba owing to considera cu the is ironico cu lifetime is ask one medio aruban for help cu one declaration of policy cu probablemnte will ataca aruba, y because; such is wait for cu none another medio or reporter cu is respeta his self will coopera cu the declaration of policy. the island y his sistema hudicial owing to achieve critica strong in media mericano without achieve the oportunidad for splica his near of medaya. besides, not can forget con some media at merca owing to ask for one boycott overall contra aruba. owing to informa lifetime cu good morning aruba will coopera always cu husticia at aruba for arrive at one conclusion of the caso tragic, but cu not will coopera for others haci benefit on we back. come across


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 02, 2011, 11:01:12 PM
TM - go ahead and post that entire Bondia article.  The one you emailed me  ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks Klaas!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 02, 2011, 11:13:12 PM
I know even the translated versions are hard to understand, but IMO everyone should read this.

(I had to type it out to translate it so it may not be perfect.)

http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_flippingbook&book_id=2

3/1/2011 Bondia Page 2

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/03012011_BondiaPage2.jpg)

Papiamentu translation:

lifetime is ask aid of good morning aruba

oranjestad – lifetime channel is busca aid of media y reporteronan aruban for follow cu the sage of the young desaparaci at aruba, natalee holloway. for of some day end, the compania is mercadeando one of two pelicula on natalee holloway, where the trip here the enfoke will is on the struggle of his mother beth twitty.

apart from the of two pelicula where lifetime is wait for of surpasa the exito of the first, the compania will lanza one derie cu sra. twitty because; anfitrion. in “vanished”, twitty will explora casonan of personanan desapareci, as his child.

have to tell cu lifetime, at instant of owing to work the first pelicula on natalee holloway y now “justice for natalee,” not did take contacto cu prensa at aruba, till so far cu good morning aruba can did take notice owing to base of the creditonan in the pelicula. but, in the serie “vanished” where near of another casonan of personanan desapareci will go back enfoca on holloway, now wanted potret licencia of all the personanan envolvi, for of joran van der sloot till at the rumannan kalpoe y others.

cu this in mind also, productor asocia for vanished, crystal bell, at name of his producer melissa may owing to acerca good morning aruba for send the potretnan here. good morning aruba owing to deny of haci this basa on argument cu majority aruban, without importa kico is they opinion on the hechonan self, not owing to feel cu the first policula of lifetime on the desaparicion of natalee holloway was for genuinely show the berdad. the enfoke of lifetime is for sensacionaolisa the storia y for gama coin. more still, not owing to as cuenta cu the near of aruba. because; such, good morning aruba will not coopera cu the serie “vanished” niether, mirando cu not can wait for one trato fair of lifetime.

the compania is in buskeda of “rating” y because; such, will do not interesa for is fair cu aruba, y particulamente will do not interesa in we sistema hudicial. good morning aruba owing to considera cu the is ironico cu lifetime is ask one medio aruban for help cu one declaration of policy cu probablemnte will ataca aruba, y because; such is wait for cu none another medio or reporter cu is respeta his self will coopera cu the declaration of policy. the island y his sistema hudicial owing to achieve critica strong in media mericano without achieve the oportunidad for splica his near of medaya. besides, not can forget con some media at merca owing to ask for one boycott overall contra aruba. owing to informa lifetime cu good morning aruba will coopera always cu husticia at aruba for arrive at one conclusion of the caso tragic, but cu not will coopera for others haci benefit on we back. come across


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 02, 2011, 11:40:28 PM
So they are just mad it might bring Aruba into a bad light again.    ::MonkeyNoNo::  Have another drink Renfro  ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on March 02, 2011, 11:46:41 PM
So they are just mad it might bring Aruba into a bad light again.    ::MonkeyNoNo::  Have another drink Renfro  ::monkeywine2::
Guess what Aruba.............................................. we STILL haven't gone away!!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 03, 2011, 12:07:40 AM
So they are just mad it might bring Aruba into a bad light again.    ::MonkeyNoNo::  Have another drink Renfro  ::monkeywine2::

Yes, but they don't hesitate to promote and/or participate in any deceitful production that blames Natalee's disappearance on her family (RENEE GIELEN)!  They jump at anything that might distract from the truth!  And since they continue to do this after five and a half years; they can all slug another drink down...because Aruba will remain in a bad light!
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 03, 2011, 12:10:32 AM
So they are just mad it might bring Aruba into a bad light again.    ::MonkeyNoNo::  Have another drink Renfro  ::monkeywine2::
Guess what Aruba.............................................. we STILL haven't gone away!!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

And we're not going away!    ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 03, 2011, 12:26:08 AM
http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=6452&offId=0

(http://www.awe24.com/_moblog_items/6452/2_1299114301.jpg)

Papiamentu translation:

4 hora happen | fecha: 02/03/2011 | horario: 21:01

accion relampago of kustwacht owing to produci 2 detencion lote of more of 50 kilo of drugs, speedboat y also arm of candela

diaranzon morning according informacionnan inoficial miembronan of kustwacht owing to strike one tremendo hit contra narcotrafico at costanan pazuid of aruba close of airport where eynan owing to come encontra cu one speedboat cu 2 person on dje y cu was tirando one lote enough big of drugs close of the costa at the rifnan pazuid. at once they owing to notice cu the boat here was throw some bulto in lama but already they was have they at view at once owing to aborda the boat and love aruba matricula a- 1806 y owing to detene the 2 sospechosonan one venezolano y the another j.d. of 46 year cu live at tarabana in the boat owing to come achieve much drugs self because; also in lama owing to achieve some bulto. owing to ask the team of police cu know dive for so follow busca y saca the another bultonan scondi in lama. 

::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 03, 2011, 12:26:41 AM
So they are just mad it might bring Aruba into a bad light again.    ::MonkeyNoNo::  Have another drink Renfro  ::monkeywine2::

I'll bet that Lifetime didn't even Bon Dia for any help.  They would have
asked Josey.  Renfro is just mad at being left at the starting gate again. JMO


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 03, 2011, 12:51:19 AM
So they are just mad it might bring Aruba into a bad light again.    ::MonkeyNoNo::  Have another drink Renfro  ::monkeywine2::

I'll bet that Lifetime didn't even Bon Dia for any help.  They would have
asked Josey.  Renfro is just mad at being left at the starting gate again. JMO

You're probably right!  And even if they did ask, I don't think their refusal to send or authorize the use of pictures of the suspects is going to hinder the production in any way...like you said Diario probably has pretty much everything that Bondia has on the case.  My bet is Lifetime doesn't give a hoot about what they think about the movie or it's portrayal of Aruba!  Everyone that followed the case KNOWS the portrayal was accurate and in my opinion it could have actually been a LOT worse...and STILL have been accurate!

 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 03, 2011, 12:52:45 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Grad00o9.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanyFlores_takentoosoon-1.jpg)

Justice for Natalee and Stephany!


 ::MonkeyJustice::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 03, 2011, 04:09:45 AM
I'm test driving my brand new lappie I got for my birthday. I mean to tell you this thing is
the blue ribbon cow titties!!!!

I was using two models between 2005-2011. I was being a sport as they slowly degraded.
A little duct tape here - a tweak there - lost some of my keys on one, and it made me
appear to talk funny.

One day - they both took a poot... and the end I knew was coming had finally arrived.

Introducing the all new Natalee Ann III

This thing is awesome. So powerful, yet so small. I just love it.


I thoroughly plan to haunt the sloots with it... til the bitter end that they know is coming.

It's high def, so my insults that I frequently send out in Joran and Anita's generallll directiooon
should be more crisp & biting than ever! In fact, due to great advancements in battery technology,
I should be able to insult them much longer and harder than ever using only one measly charge up.

I ordered it in black - to celebrate Joran's well deserved death in advance!

I don't want to be tardy for his par-tay. I want to jump right on and type in

F the B! When the jug headed loser goon boy gets it directly in his cookie sack. ::monkeywine2::

Carpe, small and powerful, that made me cry.  The world needed her.

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Any chance you will share the name of this Carpe Machine named for our girl?

I'll pass on blue ribbon cow titties, though.  That visual made me thankful for what I have.  I think CT plays for the other team and is proud of them, too.

I might be giving up cookies, too.
 
 ::MonkeyEek::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: carpe noctem on March 03, 2011, 04:10:05 AM
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/jorangirl.jpg)


 ::MonkeyJnBox::

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/vandereem2.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 03, 2011, 04:17:47 AM
They have goofed. This guy is way too good looking to portray Joran.

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 Stephen Amell (Vampire Diaries) has been cast in a recurring role on the upcoming third season of HBO's comedy series Hung. He will play Jason, a rival gigolo of Ray Drecker (Thomas Jane) who is described as super sexy with a good physique and possessing a sweetness to him that makes him very charismatic. Amell, who just signed on to star as Joran van der Sloot in the Lifetime movie Justice for Natalee, is with SMS and Leverage
 ::snipping2::

http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/hbo-adds-actors-to-hung-boardwalk-empire/

I think so, too, but my next thought was, he is likely to have a lot of fans that will now get to see the show, just to see him.  You can't hide evil.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 03, 2011, 04:20:26 AM
DON'T MISS THE DANA PRETZER SHOW TONIGHT AT 9PM ET:

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,

Thanks, Dana, you are the man!



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 03, 2011, 04:40:59 AM
So they are just mad it might bring Aruba into a bad light again.    ::MonkeyNoNo::  Have another drink Renfro  ::monkeywine2::

So, they will not cooperate?  This is news?  That is their motto. 

Remember that when deciding on a vacation spot.  Anything happens, you are on your own, they will not help....ever.  They will protect their own, no matter how evil.  Read it right from the source, their own newspaper.  One of the world's most hated criminals, they stand with the evil one.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Frightening!

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 03, 2011, 04:47:31 AM
::MonkeyHaHa::

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/jorangirl.jpg)


 ::MonkeyJnBox::

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/vandereem2.jpg)

Pluck his eyebrows and he actually looks better that way.

 ::MonkeyShocked::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 03, 2011, 05:00:30 AM


Natalee's Candles


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=nah


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=nat%27s




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 03, 2011, 10:58:22 AM

Lifetime Orders 'Natalee Holloway' Movie Sequel, Reality Series WIth Holloway's Mom
Wednesday February 23, 2011 @ 6:41pm PST


<snipped>

Justice for Natalee Holloway picks up several years after the events in the original movie. It chronicles the ongoing mystery of the 2005 disappearance of the Alabama teenager during her senior class trip to Aruba and her suspected killer Joran van der Sloot's series of conflicting (and so far false) clues about her fate. When van der Sloot demands $250,000 from Beth to reveal the location of Natalee's remains, she and her attorney John Kelly partner with the FBI to build a case against him. But before they can, van der Sloot is arrested in Peru for the murder of a young woman on the 5th anniversary of Natalee's disappearance.

<snipped>

http://m.deadline.com/2011/02/lifetime-orders-natalee-holloway-movie-sequel-reality-series-with-holloways-mom/



Joran van der Sloot

'I wanted to get back at Natalee's family - her parents have been making my life tough for five years.'


http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-true-story-book/zMY1TGGVkU2Kc8LMCiU6pA.cspx

 
Beth Holloway

'If he thinks I've been pestering him for the past five years, he hasn't seen anything yet.'

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/archief/de-confrontatie-tussen-beth-en-joran/



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 03, 2011, 11:01:06 AM
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2011/02/joran_van_der_sloot_faces_30_y.php

Joran van der Sloot faces 30 years for Peruvian murder
Monday 28 February 2011

Dutchman Joran van der Sloot faces 30 years in jail if found guilty of murdering a young Peruvian woman last year.


The public prosecution department in Lima has told Van der Sloot's lawyer he will press for 30 years, the Telegraaf reports. The investigation into the murder of Stephany Flores has now been completed, the paper said.

The maximum sentence for murder in Peru is 20 years, but this can be increased for particularly savage crimes. Van der Sloot is also accused of stealing the young woman´s money, laptop and car, allowing prosecutors to aim for 30 years.

 ::snipping2::

Thanks SuzieQ

 ::MonkeyGavel::



November 19, 2008:

BETH HOLLOWAY: And Greta, I was just wanting to say that, you know, like I said, it's been a long time, but it's never too late for justice. And I'd be good with a "Midnight Express" prison anywhere for Joran.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454527,00.html



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 03, 2011, 05:47:49 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://amigoenieuws.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4188:landsrecherche-onderzoekt-ontsnappingspoging&catid=108:artikelen-aruba&Itemid=199

Google translation:


Country Investigation investigates attempted escape

Last Updated on Thursday, 03 March 2011 8:37 p.m.
Thursday, 03 March 2011 8:36 p.m.

ORANGE CITY - The Land Criminal Investigation is conducting a factual investigation into the attempted escape of imprisoned Edmond Lo-A-Njoe (21).

The felony, convicted of, inter alia, a shooting incident in Macuarima few years ago, was accompanied Tuesday by guards Cuerpo Especial Arubano (CEA) to a funeral home in Oranjestad transported to leave to take a family member. When the guards opened the door of the car in which Lo-A-Njoe Sat, showed himself from his hand and leg irons had stripped. He hit a guard and ran away. Lo-A-Njoe was challenged by the same guard that he had just beaten down overtaken and overpowered. Closer inspection revealed that Lo-A-Njoe himself with a key of the hand and leg irons could escape.

Investigations by the Country Fact Investigation are standard in escape attempts, said spokeswoman Angela Ann OM. It indicates however that in this case is studied how to Lo-A-Njoe the key has to come from his bonds. She does not mean that he should have had a guard. The spokesperson is equally possible that the detainee that key somewhere as he has found it through a guard have ever had. "However, there is urgency in the investigation. We hope in the not too distant future the results of the investigation to get the Country Investigation, "says Angela.

She says that also investigated whether there is a connection between the fact that a detainee to a key of handcuffs may have, and the prison rebellion two weeks back, taking prisoners out of sight of the warders on the roof of KIA managed to get. "That investigation is still," the spokesman OM. "We are still sorting out how it could happen." There is no investigation underway into the guardians of KIA, explains Angela. Amigoe has contacted the management team of KIA and Justice Minister Arthur Dower (AVP), but both were at the time of printing of this edition is not available for comment.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 03, 2011, 11:12:54 PM
http://www.peterrdevries.nl/nieuws/mogelijk-dertig-jaar-voor-joran/

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Monday, February 28, 2011, 11:17 hours
News
"Maybe thirty years for Joran
Unknown lawsuit against Van der Sloot begins

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Stephany Flores
Joran van der Sloot is possibly thirty years jail term for the murder of the Peruvian Stephany Flores. That is the prosecutor in Lima Joran's lawyer announced.

The now completed police investigation would have produced enough evidence to convict Joran get. Van der Sloot is not only suspected of murder, but also the theft of money, the laptop and the car of Flores.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 04, 2011, 12:11:29 AM
So they are just mad it might bring Aruba into a bad light again.    ::MonkeyNoNo::  Have another drink Renfro  ::monkeywine2::

So, they will not cooperate?  This is news?  That is their motto. 

Remember that when deciding on a vacation spot.  Anything happens, you are on your own, they will not help....ever.  They will protect their own, no matter how evil.  Read it right from the source, their own newspaper.  One of the world's most hated criminals, they stand with the evil one.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Frightening!

(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/Bearlyhere/Bears/shocked.gif)


::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 04, 2011, 12:11:53 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Grad00o9.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanyFlores_takentoosoon-1.jpg)

Justice for Natalee and Stephany!


 ::MonkeyJustice::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 04, 2011, 12:46:29 AM
http://www.themorningnewsaruba.com/

3/1/2011 Page 5

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 04, 2011, 12:58:08 AM
http://www.themorningnewsaruba.com/

3/2/2011 Page 3

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 04, 2011, 03:49:47 PM
A REMINDER


SOUTHERN ARKANSAS UNIVERSITY TECH'S DISTINGUISHED SPEAKERS SERIES

Beth Holloway

Mother of Natalee Holloway, Speaker and Educator


SAU Tech is proud to announce Beth Holloway as the fourth annual distinguished speaker for 2011.  Holloway shares her experiences in facing a personal tragedy and shares how her faith, courage, dedication and strength has brought her through to today.  How does one muster the courage to persevere in the face of sheer adversity?  Do we all have capacity to overcome tragedy?  Find out as you listen to her story.

March 14, 2011
Charles O. Ross Center

Call For a Complimentary Ticket - 870.574.4521

<snipped>

http://www.sautech.edu/docs/Beth%20Holloway1.pdf



Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

I NEVER ASK HIM WHY


Pages 100: He entrusted me with her care for eighteen years.  Now I must trust Him to care for her.  So I never ask Him why.  Why Natalee?  Why me?  I don't ask.  To do that undermines faith.  Instead, I form an "acceptance trust" with Him there on the windy hillside.
 
NOT THE WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE.  JUST THE BURDEN

Page 103: I think about what just happened, pondering the human spirit.  Apparently it can withstand a lot more than I every dreamed possible.  Mom is right; God is good.  All my life I've heard people of many faiths talk about "taking it to the cross and turning it over to the Lord" or just simply "turning it over.  Not the work that has to be done.  Just the burden.  I cast it upon Him so that I may be sustained.  And I am renewed, resilient.  Thankful for however long this resurgence in energy will carry me.  I will pick up one foot and put it down.  Then the other one will follow.  I will breathe.  There is much to be done.
 
I'M TAKING LEAVE OF THE ISLAND BUT ...

Page 189:    It's the proverbial, Biblical conflict between good and evil.  It's very, very hard to fight evil because it constantly changes form and you never know who your enemies are.  And evil is always two steps ahead. From the outset we never had a chance.  But we didn't know it.  I'm taking leave of the island, but not from the work yet to be done.
 
MY PLEDGE

Page 200:  My child.  My beautiful daughter.  I can't save her.  It's too late.  Natalee is gone. And second to the great tragedy of losing her is if we fail to learn from what has happened.  I could be any parent in the world.  And no parent should ever go through this experience.  Natalee could be anyone's daughter.  And in these thoughts a new path is made clear.  There is something I can do.  Many people reached out to us, and I can now reach back to them.  It might be too late to save Natalee, but it's not too late to save others.  And it's time now to make good on my pledge to stand before high-school and college students, law enforcement professinals, victims' rights groups, travelers of all ages, and anyone interested in personal safety to share Natalee's story and our hard lessons, so that others might learn from them.

A CONSCIOUS DECISION EVERY MORNING

Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
 
FAITH WILL SEE ME THROUGH

Pages 230/231:  I can't say for sure if we'll ever know that answer to whether my daughter is alive or not.  I know it doesn't look good.  But just as that old metal spiral staircase rose from the ashes when our lake house burned down, so too faith stands strong in the remains of this devastating loss.  And just as my Dad built another house around that staircase, I will build another life around hope and faith.  It won't ever be the same.  But I pray that it will, at the very least, be useful.  The hope that filled Natalee's heart fills mine, and I will press on.  Faith got me up this morning, and faith will see me through tomorrow.  And the next day.  And the next.
 
EVERY CHANCE WE GET

Page 232:  Without hope we are hungry. And on a very deep level, desperate. But no one has to be. What's so amazing is that we can feed each other. We can help each other. We have the power to give resilience to others who are fading. We can nourish each other's spirits and save one another from defeat and despair. Every one of us possesses this power to "love thy neighbor," and we need to use it every chance we get.
______
 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 04, 2011, 04:32:36 PM
The latest document filed in the Kalpoe vs. Dr. Phil case:



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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 04, 2011, 04:48:30 PM
 ::HelloKitty::

Hi Klaas.

What does it all mean?

Thanks

Janet



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 04, 2011, 05:38:15 PM
::HelloKitty::

Hi Klaas.

What does it all mean?

Thanks

Janet



It means the judge has granted the delay for 30 days and that the motion for Summary Judgement and Continuance will be heard on April 11th rather than March 11th but that documents need to be filed with the court prior.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 04, 2011, 05:42:39 PM
::HelloKitty::

Hi Klaas.

What does it all mean?

Thanks

Janet



It means the judge has granted the delay for 30 days and that the motion for Summary Judgement and Continuance will be heard on April 11th rather than March 11th but that documents need to be filed with the court prior.

Is this a good or bad thing for the defence?  This lawsuit appears to be neverend.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 04, 2011, 05:55:00 PM
::HelloKitty::

Hi Klaas.

What does it all mean?

Thanks

Janet



It means the judge has granted the delay for 30 days and that the motion for Summary Judgement and Continuance will be heard on April 11th rather than March 11th but that documents need to be filed with the court prior.

Is this a good or bad thing for the defence?  This lawsuit appears to be neverend.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet

I agree......... this thing has drug out forever!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 04, 2011, 06:40:50 PM
Thanks, Klaas

OMGoodness...just put the Kalpoes in front of the Justice sign, and I'll knock some sense into them.  lol  ::MonkeyJustice::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 04, 2011, 07:46:08 PM
Thanks, Klaas

OMGoodness...just put the Kalpoes in front of the Justice sign, and I'll knock some sense into them.  lol  ::MonkeyJustice::



 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 04, 2011, 07:48:39 PM
::HelloKitty::

Hi Klaas.

What does it all mean?

Thanks

Janet



It means the judge has granted the delay for 30 days and that the motion for Summary Judgement and Continuance will be heard on April 11th rather than March 11th but that documents need to be filed with the court prior.

Is this a good or bad thing for the defence?  This lawsuit appears to be neverend.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet

Mostly a delay tactic by the Plaintiff's but overall not good or bad for the Defense, IMO.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 04, 2011, 08:13:36 PM
ppfffftt...Let them delay.  We'll have double-header trials this year with the Kalpoes and Joran--three jerks strikes; game over!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 04, 2011, 08:40:13 PM
Exactly Grace-Land.  I don't care if they delay.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 05, 2011, 01:55:47 AM
http://issuu.com/themorningnews/docs/february_14__2011

February 14, 2011
The Morning News Aruba Page 4

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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=162611420456925

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 05, 2011, 02:37:42 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Grad00o9.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanyFlores_takentoosoon-1.jpg)

Justice for Natalee and Stephany!


 ::MonkeyJustice::



::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 05, 2011, 12:37:04 PM
ppfffftt...Let them delay.  We'll have double-header trials this year with the Kalpoes and Joran--three jerks strikes; game over!  ::MonkeyCool::


grace-land

I am hoping for a triple header.

Janet

++++

1.  The Kalpoes lose big time in the the defamation lawsuit again Phil McGraw.

2.  Joran is sentenced to that 30 year term predicted by the Peruvian prosecutor for the murder of Stephany Flores.

3.  Just one who was on board the Persistence will grow a conscience and give the family of Natalee Holloway a measure of closure by revealing the truth regarding the contents of the trap ... the trap which was afforded unchallenged to the Aruban enemy.

Janet

++++++


Surely I'm Wrong

private eye
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
« Reply #559 on: March 01, 2008, 04:08:07 PM »


I hope that the Persistence has not done all of this work and gone to all of this expense only to have gotten itself into an arrangement whereby Aruban divers are the ones who actually verify the targets and are the first ones to physically retrieve evidence, with no American divers physically with them. If so, all I can say is I just can't believe this has happened. But surely I am wrong.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2662.msg358435#msg358435


The Parable of the Lamp

Mark 4:21-23


Then Jesus asked them, “Would anyone light a lamp and then put it under a basket or under a bed? Of course not! A lamp is placed on a stand, where its light will shine.  For everything that is hidden will eventually be brought into the open, and every secret will be brought to light.  Anyone with ears to hear should listen and understand.”


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 05, 2011, 04:05:18 PM
http://www.24ora.com/gallery.html?func=detail&id=34792

Kiwanis Mascarade Ball @ Renaissance 4march11

Ben King and wife

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 05, 2011, 04:21:14 PM
Jouve Morning March 5, 2011

Rona Coster
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Steve Croes aka DJ Diablo

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 05, 2011, 04:23:38 PM
http://www.24ora.com/gallery.html?func=detail&id=34792

Kiwanis Mascarade Ball @ Renaissance 4march11

Ben King and wife

(http://www.24ora.com/components/com_joomgallery/img_pictures/kiwanis_mascarade_ball__renaissance_4march11_291/kiwanismascarade_20110305_1806563222.jpg)



http://www.24ora.com/gallery.html?func=detail&id=34792

Kiwanis Mascarade Ball @ Renaissance 4march11



I think that's Dilma in the middle.

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 05, 2011, 04:32:04 PM
Have no idea who they are but I wondered, when they got ready to go out did they look in the mirror and say "NAILED IT"  ::MonkeyDevil::

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 05, 2011, 04:42:07 PM
Have no idea who they are but I wondered, when they got ready to go out did they look in the mirror and say "NAILED IT"  ::MonkeyDevil::

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5134/5500038549_ffda881016_o.jpg)
::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 05, 2011, 04:50:24 PM
http://www.facebook.com/IslandTemptations
 ::snipping2::


Island Temptations Island Temptations Magazine had a great day on Friday, with Michelle, Angie, Thessaly, and Joha. Amazing hair by Maggy's Salon at the Renaissance Marketplace and incredible make up by Raphael, at DUFRY Royal Plaza.
The fashion editotrial was conceived by Creative Editor Tina Escobedo, and photographed by Steve Keith with great assistance from Mike Bislick.
Fashions by Heidi Munzenhoffer for Aimee Couture, Ronchi de Cuba for Trash, and Eliza Lejuez for Eliza Lejuez design. Shoes by Aldo. Jewelry by Anita van der Sloot,Marian Abath and Gabriela Gonzalez for T.H. Palm and Co., all designed and made in Aruba.
Shot on location at Zeerovers, Savaneta beach, Santa Cruz and the Donkey Sanctuary and the Mainstreet.
Saturday's shoot was canceled, guess why, but the schedule resumed on Monday with Nicole, Priscilla and Julietta, in Santa Cruz, Cunucu Arubiano and the Aruba Aloe fields.
We're doing it again tomorrow, Wednesday . . .with Naomi, Georgina and Gionina!
December 7, 2010 at 6:54pm


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 05, 2011, 05:08:20 PM
Jouve Morning March 5, 2011

Rona Coster
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5018/5500011401_916da85f52_o.jpg)

Steve Croes aka DJ Diablo

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5020/5500617684_7eb66f95fd_o.jpg)




DJ Diablo looks rough as usual.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Rona Coster Kahn...this is an interesting read, if you haven't read it.  It's about her late ex husband, gives a little insight into their history on the island.

http://news.visitaruba.com/news/do/dispatch/view/id/660/manageArticle.html



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on March 05, 2011, 06:42:27 PM
Have no idea who they are but I wondered, when they got ready to go out did they look in the mirror and say "NAILED IT"  ::MonkeyDevil::

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5134/5500038549_ffda881016_o.jpg)
"Winning"!!!  I wonder if they have "tiger blood"??  ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: Tamikosmom on March 05, 2011, 06:50:14 PM
http://www.24ora.com/gallery.html?func=detail&id=34792

Kiwanis Mascarade Ball @ Renaissance 4march11

Ben King and wife

(http://www.24ora.com/components/com_joomgallery/img_pictures/kiwanis_mascarade_ball__renaissance_4march11_291/kiwanismascarade_20110305_1806563222.jpg)




BEN KING

Beth Holloway

FOX News w/ Martha MacCallum - November 28, 2006


BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: Well I think they will always have to look at there were two personnel involved from the Aruban Justice Department and that is why we don’t have any evidence and that’s what Joran’s attorney will have to be reminded of. It’s because of Bob Witt and Ben King stopped the search warrants. It was made to initially search the entire area of Montanja 19 the garden, the buildings and everything but on the spot high ranking employee of the Justice Office Bob Witt reduced the search warrant to only the room of Joran so that’s why we don’t have any evidence because of involvement of the obstruction from the Aruban Justice Department personnel.
 

Peter Devries

The Robert Jensen Show - November 28, 2006


PETER DEVRIES: Yes the police missed several chances to do things right: when they wanted to search the house.  the door was opened by Mr. Ben King, an assistant of the Procurements Gen. office, the highest justice-office on the island, and a friend of the family who wanted to support the van der Sloots in these difficult times.  So clearly the search of the house had not been a surprise to the van der Sloots.  The police had a warrant for the complete estate but a judge - Bob Wit - who was at the house as well said only Joran’s room could be searched.  These are things a Dutch crime-reporter is of course totally astonished about.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 05, 2011, 06:53:26 PM
THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL

San
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #841 6/22/10 -
« Reply #1553 on: June 26, 2010, 12:47:13 AM »


I just have a feeling something even bigger is going to happen.  I have a feeling that Joran is going to throw people under the bus and start naming names.  Joran is mad and he will turn his anger towards Aruba for not helping him.  Everyone get ready to run.

People like:

Van der Straaten
Rudy Croes
Nelson Oduber
Karin Jannsen
Rick Smid
Bob Witt
Ben King
Michael Posner
Julia Renfro

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8145.msg1170391#msg1170391


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Frijole on March 05, 2011, 07:22:01 PM
Have no idea who they are but I wondered, when they got ready to go out did they look in the mirror and say "NAILED IT"  ::MonkeyDevil::

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5134/5500038549_ffda881016_o.jpg)
"Winning"!!!  I wonder if they have "tiger blood"??  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyDevil::  No doubt about it.. probably related.


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Post by: klaasend on March 05, 2011, 07:48:54 PM
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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 05, 2011, 07:56:17 PM
"Winning"  "Tiger Blood"  ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 05, 2011, 08:52:47 PM
"Winning"  "Tiger Blood"  ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

Klaas

Hubby and I watched the Charlie Sheen Dateline special last night.  Our brains were reeling by the end.  "Winning" and "Tiger Blood" have been sacastically encorporated into much of our conversation today.  Our eleven year old grandson rolls his eyes.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Janet


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Red on March 05, 2011, 09:24:03 PM
Lifetime Network to do Natalee Holloway Sequel, “Justice for Natalee Holloway” … Focus on Beth Holloway’s Efforts to Info from Joran van der Sloot & 10 Part Crime/Missing Persons Reality Show

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/03/05/lifetime-network-to-do-natalee-holloway-sequel-%e2%80%9cjustice-for-natalee-holloway-focus-on-beth-holloways-efforts-to-info-from-joran-van-der-sloot-10-part-crimemissing-persons-reality-s/

Beth Holloway continues to put the pressure on Aruba and Joran Van der Sloot as she keeps the story of Natalee's disappearance in the news.

After all the lies, corruption, cronyism, cover ups and lies … Aruba has never held anyone accountable for the disappearance of Natalee Holloway and expects Americans to just forget the story and what occurred. Thankfully, Beth Holloway will never let that occur as she searches for answers and “Justice for Natalee”.

The Lifetime network did so well with the first Natalee Holloway movie in 2009 that was watched by 3.2 million and counting, that they have decided to do a sequel. The new endeavor by Lifetime will be the calling cry that Scared Monkeys has used for year … “Justice for Natalee Holloway.” Maybe it should be subtitled, “We stand with the girl”.The focus of the sequel will be Beth Holloway’s quest to get answers from Joran Van der Sloot as to what happened to Natalee and the “extortion” attempt by Joran to fleece money from the family for information. What a shock, it turned out Joran was lying yet again. (snip)



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 05, 2011, 09:27:06 PM


Joran van der Sloot

'I wanted to get back at Natalee's family - her parents have been making my life tough for five years.'


http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-true-story-book/zMY1TGGVkU2Kc8LMCiU6pA.cspx

 
Beth Holloway

'If he thinks I've been pestering him for the past five years, he hasn't seen anything yet.'

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/archief/de-confrontatie-tussen-beth-en-joran/



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 05, 2011, 09:35:52 PM
Thanks Red!

Yep, Beth isn't going away and neither are we!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 05, 2011, 10:14:53 PM
Lifetime Network to do Natalee Holloway Sequel, “Justice for Natalee Holloway” … Focus on Beth Holloway’s Efforts to Info from Joran van der Sloot & 10 Part Crime/Missing Persons Reality Show

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/03/05/lifetime-network-to-do-natalee-holloway-sequel-%e2%80%9cjustice-for-natalee-holloway-focus-on-beth-holloways-efforts-to-info-from-joran-van-der-sloot-10-part-crimemissing-persons-reality-s/

Beth Holloway continues to put the pressure on Aruba and Joran Van der Sloot as she keeps the story of Natalee's disappearance in the news.

After all the lies, corruption, cronyism, cover ups and lies … Aruba has never held anyone accountable for the disappearance of Natalee Holloway and expects Americans to just forget the story and what occurred. Thankfully, Beth Holloway will never let that occur as she searches for answers and “Justice for Natalee”.

The Lifetime network did so well with the first Natalee Holloway movie in 2009 that was watched by 3.2 million and counting, that they have decided to do a sequel. The new endeavor by Lifetime will be the calling cry that Scared Monkeys has used for year … “Justice for Natalee Holloway.” Maybe it should be subtitled, “We stand with the girl”.The focus of the sequel will be Beth Holloway’s quest to get answers from Joran Van der Sloot as to what happened to Natalee and the “extortion” attempt by Joran to fleece money from the family for information. What a shock, it turned out Joran was lying yet again. (snip)



I love it!  THANKS RED!   ::MonkeyDance::
 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyJustice::  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 05, 2011, 10:26:07 PM
Thanks Red!

Yep, Beth isn't going away and neither are we!

That's right!   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 05, 2011, 10:52:23 PM
http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=6452&offId=0

(http://www.awe24.com/_moblog_items/6452/2_1299114301.jpg)

Papiamentu translation:

4 hora happen | fecha: 02/03/2011 | horario: 21:01

accion relampago of kustwacht owing to produci 2 detencion lote of more of 50 kilo of drugs, speedboat y also arm of candela

diaranzon morning according informacionnan inoficial miembronan of kustwacht owing to strike one tremendo hit contra narcotrafico at costanan pazuid of aruba close of airport where eynan owing to come encontra cu one speedboat cu 2 person on dje y cu was tirando one lote enough big of drugs close of the costa at the rifnan pazuid. at once they owing to notice cu the boat here was throw some bulto in lama but already they was have they at view at once owing to aborda the boat and love aruba matricula a- 1806 y owing to detene the 2 sospechosonan one venezolano y the another j.d. of 46 year cu live at tarabana in the boat owing to come achieve much drugs self because; also in lama owing to achieve some bulto. owing to ask the team of police cu know dive for so follow busca y saca the another bultonan scondi in lama. 

::snipping2::

http://www.amigoenieuws.com/PDF%20amigoearu/04-03-2011a.pdf

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Google translation:

Drug boat owner denies involvement

ORANGE CITY - Steve Lejuez Omar (34), owner the speedboat "I Love Aruba Guide denies involvement in the past that drugstransport Tuesday was intercepted on the south coast. On the pier where his boat and was under the watchful eye of his father, lawyer Chris Lejuez, he indicated the press to know that his boat, which ended Tuesday a number drugs by the Coast Guard, Unit organized Crime of the Corps Aruba Police and Customs investigation was found, without his knowledge was taken away by strangers. The last time the boat he saw was the day sure, on Monday said Lejuez. The action The boat was apprehended, held on Tuesday morning Instead, he only came back on Tuesday that his vessel was gone. "I came around eight hours to the pier because I thought I was on my camera boat had left. Then I went straight to the police station in Oranjestad to report do. There I was told I go to the office in Had to Santa Cruz. Once I was in Santa Cruz I did not hear that helped could I but next morning was along , and so I have to wait till yesterday morning to report it. "  Police spokesman John Larmonie confirms that daily report to give that Wednesday morning there a mutation is indicated the declaration of Lejuez, with an indication that he was the night before at a quarter past nine the Bureau of Macuarima was. "Whatever may mean that that evening he yet had reported and that until the next morning was recorded. This happens sometimes, "said Larmonie.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 05, 2011, 10:56:05 PM
http://www.amigoenieuws.com/PDF%20amigoearu/04-03-2011a.pdf

snipped from the article above...

Quote
"I came around eight hours to the pier because I thought I was on my camera boat had left. Then I went straight to the police station in Oranjestad to report do. There I was told I go to the office in Had to Santa Cruz. Once I was in Santa Cruz I did not hear that helped could I but next morning was along , and so I have to wait till yesterday morning to report it. "

Wonder why it's so hard to report a crime in Aruba!  How many times have we heard this same story!  Good grief!

 ::MonkeyNoNo::
 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 06, 2011, 03:15:07 AM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Grad00o9.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanyFlores_takentoosoon-1.jpg)

Justice for Natalee and Stephany!


 ::MonkeyJustice::





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: sharon on March 06, 2011, 07:33:36 AM
Lifetime Network to do Natalee Holloway Sequel, “Justice for Natalee Holloway” … Focus on Beth Holloway’s Efforts to Info from Joran van der Sloot & 10 Part Crime/Missing Persons Reality Show

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/03/05/lifetime-network-to-do-natalee-holloway-sequel-%e2%80%9cjustice-for-natalee-holloway-focus-on-beth-holloways-efforts-to-info-from-joran-van-der-sloot-10-part-crimemissing-persons-reality-s/

Beth Holloway continues to put the pressure on Aruba and Joran Van der Sloot as she keeps the story of Natalee's disappearance in the news.

After all the lies, corruption, cronyism, cover ups and lies … Aruba has never held anyone accountable for the disappearance of Natalee Holloway and expects Americans to just forget the story and what occurred. Thankfully, Beth Holloway will never let that occur as she searches for answers and “Justice for Natalee”.

The Lifetime network did so well with the first Natalee Holloway movie in 2009 that was watched by 3.2 million and counting, that they have decided to do a sequel. The new endeavor by Lifetime will be the calling cry that Scared Monkeys has used for year … “Justice for Natalee Holloway.” Maybe it should be subtitled, “We stand with the girl”.The focus of the sequel will be Beth Holloway’s quest to get answers from Joran Van der Sloot as to what happened to Natalee and the “extortion” attempt by Joran to fleece money from the family for information. What a shock, it turned out Joran was lying yet again. (snip)



AVOID ARUBA AS IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT...IT DOES!!!

Justice for Natalee Holloway
Peace for her family and loved ones


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 06, 2011, 11:21:25 AM
I thought the original release date of this was Feb 1st, so I was looking for any reactions to the movie.  I'm guessing they've postponed the release until September, but took the movie to the Canadian Film Festival?  All I could find about the movie other than this was a sight where you can supposedly watch it online, not sure about that though.

http://www.facebook.com/paul.ruven1?sk=wall

Paul Ruven
MR & MR JONES, breaking in Joran van der Sloot's house to force a breaktrough in the Natalee Holloway case, with Hanna Verboom & Robert de Hoog

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Paul Ruven
ME & MR JONES film with a starring Hanna Verboom and Robert High has won the Award Of Excellence at the International Festival in Vancouver Canada. The prize will be awarded on April 3. The film released in September, in August, the novel based on the movie story Pimento. The film songs are the new band and Wowfactor NL's largest international band Within Temptation.
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http://www.canadafilmfestival.com/Festival/PastWinners/2010AwardofExcellence/tabid/398/Default.aspx



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 06, 2011, 02:09:23 PM
 :lol:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=8017516&id=271114280518

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 06, 2011, 02:29:20 PM
Wrong end  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 06, 2011, 03:05:30 PM
Wrong end  ::MonkeyCool::
::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Sleuth on March 06, 2011, 04:46:43 PM
Have no idea who they are but I wondered, when they got ready to go out did they look in the mirror and say "NAILED IT"  ::MonkeyDevil::

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5134/5500038549_ffda881016_o.jpg)

This is either for the pajama party or else it is for the mascarade and their tub is missing.  Rub a Dub Dub


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on March 06, 2011, 05:52:37 PM
Spanish to English translation

Van der Sloot Defense asks to be judged by "passion"

Counsel argues that the Dutch did not kill intentionally Stephany Flores. Expected sentence of three to five years
Sunday March 6, 2011 - 01:08 pm

The lawyer for Joran van der Sloot said the program "Domingo Al Dia that his client killed the girl Stephany Flores product of a violent emotion, not intentionally. Therefore asked not to be tried for murder and prevent a sentence of 25 years in prison.

"When Miss Stephany Flores was poking around on the computer of Van der Sloot, he realized that he had had previous problems at the death of Natalee Holloway. We are saying that it was the backlash from Joran. They began to argue and began to play with hands, pushing and unleashed all that we know, right? "Said the lawyer, Max Altez.

To be tried in the form of homicide violent emotion, Van der Sloot would receive only three to five years in prison. "It's what we're asking. In any case, the Court has to choose between simple and qualified homicide. "

He also indicated that the Dutch have not declared so far because he has not been given a qualified translator.

FLORES FAMILY ATTORNEY rejected the defense of the Dutch
For its part, the lawyer for the family of Stephanie Flores, Edward Alvarez, said this new defense strategy does not withstand further analysis.

"That laptop with information on Aruba crime occurred long before Stephanie was with him at the hotel," he said.

Thus, Alvarez said it is "totally untrue" that Flores has discussed with Van der Sloot for such information.

http://elcomercio.pe/lima/723530/noticia-defensa-van-der-sloot-pide-que-se-le-juzgue-emocion-violenta


I thought the translator and habeas corpus issue went before the three judges then was sent to the fourth judge.  The fourth judge has now sent case to the prosecutor.  My guess is that Maximo was shot down.  Why doesn't he translate?

So the history, on the laptop, shows that the info on Natalee was accessed BEFORE the casino.  You lose Joran.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 06, 2011, 06:26:37 PM
Thanks Buckeye!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 06, 2011, 06:30:55 PM
So Joran's attorney is admitting that Joran killed Stephany, his argument is that he claims it was a crime of passion and not intentional.  So he killed Stephany in a fit of rage.  Maybe she said NO like Natalee did.

(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/joran.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 06, 2011, 06:31:47 PM
Beth Holloway the new face of Lifetime?
Last Update: 3/05 10:51 am
 

A movie sequel about Natalee's disappearance.  A ten part reality series. Is Beth Holloway the new face of the Lifetime cable network? Or is Limetime becoming the Natalee Holloway network.

<snipped>

The sequel, “Justice for Natalee Holloway" will reportedly focus on Beth Holloway's efforts to get Joran van der Sloot indicted for extortion and wire fraud. Those indictments were handed down by a federal grand jury here in Alabama last year after van der Sloot allegedly promised information about Natalee's fate in exchange for money. The FBI says van der Sloot took the money but never came through with the information.

Shortly after the alleged extortion, but before the FBI sought his arrest,  van der Sloot was arrested in Peru after the corpse of a Peruvian student was found in his Lima hotel room. Peruvian police say van der Sloot admitted he killed Stephany Flores after she found material about Natalee on his laptop. In the kind of grisly coincidence Lifetime can script a movie around, Flores' body was found five years to the day of Natalee Holloway's disappearance on a high school trip to Aruba. She was last seen leaving a nightclub with van der Sloot and two of his friends.

Another element that makes van der Sloot seem typecast for Lifetime: the well off Dutch national was questioned by Aruban authorities but never charged. Many, including Natalee's family suspect undue influence with Aruban authorites by van der Sloot's late father, an attorney.

http://www.cbs42.com/mostpopular/story/Beth-Holloway-the-new-face-of-Lifetime/gjdQcbTz2ku9Yfdst0XuYw.cspx



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 06, 2011, 07:06:38 PM
So Joran's attorney is admitting that Joran killed Stephany, his argument is that he claims it was a crime of passion and not intentional.  So he killed Stephany in a fit of rage.  Maybe she said NO like Natalee did.

(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/joran.jpg)

Sure she did.  She said NO.  When he was begging for money from mommy and all his friends...they said NO.  NO more Joran!  He was mad at everyone...he'd show them, he was desperate for money, he planned it out...got Stephany in his room; she said NO and he killed her.  He made sure she was dead, he could tell any story then...blame it on anyone but HIM...she couldn't tell.  He could even try to put the blame on Natalee and Beth!  He took out all his anger on poor Stephany.  She was a winner, he was a LOSER.  It would be THEIR fault for not sending him the money to come back to Aruba...not HIS.  It's never HIS fault.  He'd get out of the country, and mommy would fix it just like she and daddy did in 2005...and how many times before...

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9215.msg1312234#msg1312234

 ::snipping2::

Quote
They began to argue and began to play with hands, pushing and unleashed all that we know, right? "Said the lawyer, Max Altez.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::






Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 06, 2011, 07:15:48 PM
http://www.larepublica.pe/06-03-2011/van-der-sloot-argumenta-emocion-violenta-en-crimen-de-stephany-flores

Google translation:

Van der Sloot emotion argues violent crime Stephany Flores

Sun, 06/03/2011 - 14:58
 
Dutch citizen Joran van der Sloot , the young murderer Stephany Flores , say before the Judiciary who killed by "passion" and not intentionally. Thus, Van Der Sloot wants to avoid a sentence of up to 25 years in prison for homicide .

 ::snipping2::

Comments:

Sun, 06/03/2011 - 17:21 - Joseph W. PEREZ

Quote
Violent emotion he expects the defense lawyer argued Van Der Sloot, to reduce the sentence of confessed asesiono Ms Flores is completely unfounded because I am sure that the judiciary will take account of conduct prior to the facts shown by this subject, the form of murder and the subsequent conduct of the facts and the case has been withdrawn from the country with him so that they remain suspicious about the role and intentional way to mislead the Peruvian justice. I think the judiciary must be relentless and have the opportunity to show the world that justice in this country is relentless regardless of the origin of the offender.

Sun, 06/03/2011 - 15:51 - JUAN

Quote
The claim seeks violent emotion q Van Der Sloot, will be rejected outright by the unconcealed background of the accused murderers. Not only is a deliberate crime, premeditated and treacherous, but all events q after q fact surrounding the conduct of this rogue state clearly q planned the crime with extreme cruelty and coldness, porq living hand to mouth, on the line loose, the razor's edge and knowing without a trace q killing was the only way to flee the scene, the alibi is not justified. Mal would defend this evil q born to be a common criminal to invoke violent emotion to get a more lenient sentence, given q by the circumstances of fact and evidence to process deserves perpetrated chain


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: SuzieQ on March 06, 2011, 08:18:26 PM
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-lawyer-argues-crime-of-passion/15DPrr_wtUSy1rQDkhbCBw.cspx?rss=2272

Van der Sloot lawyer argues "crime of passion"

Birmingham, Al (WIAT CBS42)  The body of a young woman was found in Joran van der Sloot's Lima hotel room five years to the day of Natalee Holloway's disappearance on a school trip to Aruba.

Prosecutors in Peru say van der Sloot has admitted killing Stephany Flores after she found material on his laptop relating to Natalee.

 ::snipping2::

Van der Sloot's Peruvian lawyer, Max Altez, told the television program "Domingo al Dia" that the death was the result of a violent argument, not intentional. Altez says he's asking his client face a 3-5 year sentence, not the 30 years prosecutors are asking for.

Edward Alvarez,an attorney for the Flores family, told El Commercio that the family rejects the defense claims and is backing the prosecution.   No trial date has been set yet and there's still plenty of legal wrangling unresolved, including whose responsibility is it to provide a Dutch-Spanish translator. The Dutch embassy has said it's not their job.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 06, 2011, 08:23:38 PM
Wonder who translates for Joran and Max Altex...my guess...NOBODY!

Joran understands and understood perfectly fine!
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 06, 2011, 10:37:03 PM
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/03/05/lifetime-network-to-do-natalee-holloway-sequel-%E2%80%9Cjustice-for-natalee-holloway-focus-on-beth-holloways-efforts-to-info-from-joran-van-der-sloot-10-part-crimemissing-persons-reality-s/#comments

15.  Steve Holloway on March 6th, 2011 10:11 am
Quote
I have a story about our good friend Mr.Prime Minister Oduber, now that he is no longer in power. My side of the family met with the man and we did not see eye to eye with him. He only wanted to talk about the new hotels and the one’s on the drawing board. We had to keep him on track, “What are you going to do to find Natalee?” I will not get into the details, but in the end we were told he could make bad things happen. So its our word against his. Many things happen like the power shutting down on the island, (radar can’t work without power), that now make sense.

I feel confident that Nelson Oduber has a lot of blood on his hands.  He's covered for many, including the Sloot's.  We've all read what at least one of his own son's has gotten away with.  Despicable!  Of course Natalee's family had to keep him on track, he already knew that Natalee wouldn't be found...he'd helped make sure of that!

JMO

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::


(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Beth_NelsonOduber_hollowaytruestory.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: SuzieQ on March 06, 2011, 11:10:15 PM
Everytime I see that picture, I just want to go and smack him in the face.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 06, 2011, 11:42:22 PM
Everytime I see that picture, I just want to go and smack him in the face.  ::MonkeyMad::

Me too SuzieQ...it makes me furious!   ::pullinghairout::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 06, 2011, 11:57:47 PM
I still like this one though!   ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyDevil::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4766.msg743349#msg743349


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 07, 2011, 12:28:29 AM
If anyone cares to hear Freddy's Mustang engine...click on the youtube link below.  ::MonkeyRoll::

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000863766118

Still Strong Scum

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Freddy/06292010_Freddy_FB_StillStrong_1-1.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3EcOq6jH6Y

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Freddy/Freddy_Mustang_03062011Youtube.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 07, 2011, 12:30:11 AM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Grad00o9.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanyFlores_takentoosoon-1.jpg)

Justice for Natalee and Stephany!


 ::MonkeyJustice::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 07, 2011, 01:15:24 AM
Assruba didn't realize that they picked the wrong mother to F**K with because you're not only dealing with her, but you're dealing with an army of Monkey's who won't ever let Urine, the two leprechauns, and that whole island forget what they let happen, not only to Natalee Holloway, but I'm sure many other unsuspecting young women. Each one of you miscreants are living a nightmare of an existence. Don't think for a minute KTF doesn't understand that when you go to sleep at night you have those quiet, silent moments where the TRUTH eats at your soul. God does that by design; Therefor, God will never let you forget what you all have done. When Assruba's karma comes around it will be of EPIC proportions.......................TICK_TOCK............IT IS COMING...


KEEPTHEFAITH


::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: billb's daughter on March 07, 2011, 01:23:46 AM
Assruba didn't realize that they picked the wrong mother to F**K with because you're not only dealing with her, but you're dealing with an army of Monkey's who won't ever let Urine, the two leprechauns, and that whole island forget what they let happen, not only to Natalee Holloway, but I'm sure many other unsuspecting young women. Each one of you miscreants are living a nightmare of an existence. Don't think for a minute KTF doesn't understand that when you go to sleep at night you have those quiet, silent moments where the TRUTH eats at your soul. God does that by design; Therefor, God will never let you forget what you all have done. When Assruba's karma comes around it will be of EPIC proportions.......................TICK_TOCK............IT IS COMING...


KEEPTHEFAITH


::MonkeyCool::

Keepthefaith....
At the end of the day...TICK_TOCK............IT IS COMING...
Standing with Natalee and Stephany.....Is where it is at!......
I'd like to gather a few Monkeys to go to aruba beat the hell out of stress our displeasure to those in authority that covered up urine's murder of Natalee.....


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 07, 2011, 01:30:53 AM
Just an FYI...If this is the same garage that is tuning Freddy's Mustang...it's been in business since 2003, changed owners in 2007.

Bello's Garage

http://www.arubachamber.com/registry/registry_result.afp?KeyValue=31317

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 17 JUNE 2003 under serial number 30494.0 is the company with the tradename:

 
BELLO'S GARAGE
 
Business address   ANGOCHI 18, SANTA CRUZ
Legal form   SOLE OWNERSHIP
Name of the company   BELLO'S GARAGE
Date of commencement   1 JULY 2003
    
THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN CANCELLED ON 10 MAY 2007
 
OWNERS/PARTNERS

BELLO, ENRIQUE ROLAND;
Born in   ARUBA on 4 DECEMBER 1954
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   OWNER
Effective   17 JUNE 2003
Authority   FULL
 
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY

HET EXPLOITEREN VAN EEN GARAGEBEDRIJF.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://www.arubachamber.com/registry/registry_result.afp?KeyValue=37475

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 10 MAY 2007 under serial number 36117.0 is the company with the tradename:

 
BELLO'S GARAGE
 
Business address   ANGOCHI 18, SANTA CRUZ
Legal form   SOLE OWNERSHIP
Name of the company   BELLO'S GARAGE
Date of commencement   10 MAY 2007
    
 
OWNERS/PARTNERS

BELLO, REMICK ORLANDO;
Born in   ARUBA on 10 DECEMBER 1978
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   OWNER
Effective   10 MAY 2007
Authority   FULL
 
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY

HET EXPLOITEREN VAN EEN GARAGEBEDRIJF.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

A reference to Orlando Bello from the Shango & Simian thread...I think in reference to Lorenzo.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2886.msg415231#msg415231
 
::snipping2::


sandraK: Lorenzo's Dad had a VW Dealership.. He is dead.sadly..He runs with Max Arendsz & Orlando Bello. From the Aruba Speed Shop...A Kinda Strange Dude.. but harmless...  SM's think he has something to do with this.. Cops Been all over him.. He's not involved...
 



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 07, 2011, 01:31:32 AM
God Bless Billb. Go grab a burger at Hodad's in Ocean Beach, Ca if you're ever in the area. Well worth it.. ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 07, 2011, 03:06:39 AM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_50.jpg)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE,

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/machpicchusteph.jpg)

AND STEPHANY!

 ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Red on March 07, 2011, 07:57:14 AM
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I also realize that many support the cause; however, are unable to make donations. By supporting our advertisers, you help out as well.
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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Blue Moon on March 07, 2011, 08:17:19 AM
Sorry for the intrusion.....

PLEASE NOTE THE DONATION BUTTON ON OUR PAGE.  RED was hesitant to add a donation button but I talked him into it.  The donations would go to pay LEGAL fees Red is incurring due to this RightHaven suit.

For those who aren't aware, please go to this thread and read about RightHaven, or google RightHaven Suit:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9451.0


Red is desperate, any donation at all would be hugely appreciated.  You can write LEGAL FEES if you like in the Donation comment area.  The smallest out of court settlements have been between 5-10K and there's no guarantee that RightHaven will settle out of court.

Thanks!

To donate, click on the DONATE button at the upper right in the forum


(https://www.paypal.com/en_US/i/btn/btn_donateCC_LG.gif)

I just wanted to take the moment to thank all that have made donation to Scared Monkeys. Your thoughts and generosity are most welcome. We have sent personal thank you’s to all that have made donations; however, I noticed that some came back undeliverable for Comcast or ATT email providers. Please note, I want to wish a big thank you and it is very much appreciated.

I also realize that many support the cause; however, are unable to make donations. By supporting our advertisers, you help out as well.
It is rare that we ever ask for donations in order to generate revenues to make the site go; however, the present situation is an unforeseen and unexpected situation.

You can donate through Paypal and we also might be adding a PO Box as well.

I thank all of you from the bottom of my Monkey heart.
RED


Red,  Thanks for giving us Scared Monkeys.  I got your personal email and it bought a tear to my eyes.  I wish I could solve this for this website myself but cannot. 

Put the call out again if you need more help.  You know we will do all we can to help.  Hang in there.


JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND STEPHANY!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: littletxlady on March 07, 2011, 09:30:47 AM
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/03/exclusive-interview-joran-van-der-sloots-fate-hands-translators-says-lawyer

Just happened to run across this this am.

Morning Monkeys  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 07, 2011, 10:56:26 AM
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-lawyer-argues-crime-of-passion/15DPrr_wtUSy1rQDkhbCBw.cspx?rss=2272

Van der Sloot lawyer argues "crime of passion"

Birmingham, Al (WIAT CBS42)  The body of a young woman was found in Joran van der Sloot's Lima hotel room five years to the day of Natalee Holloway's disappearance on a school trip to Aruba.

Prosecutors in Peru say van der Sloot has admitted killing Stephany Flores after she found material on his laptop relating to Natalee.

 ::snipping2::

Van der Sloot's Peruvian lawyer, Max Altez, told the television program "Domingo al Dia" that the death was the result of a violent argument, not intentional. Altez says he's asking his client face a 3-5 year sentence, not the 30 years prosecutors are asking for.

Edward Alvarez,an attorney for the Flores family, told El Commercio that the family rejects the defense claims and is backing the prosecution.   No trial date has been set yet and there's still plenty of legal wrangling unresolved, including whose responsibility is it to provide a Dutch-Spanish translator. The Dutch embassy has said it's not their job.

 ::snipping2::

After almost six months ... it has yet to be ruled by the forth Peruvian judge whether Joran's confession will stand.  I would imagine that Alvarez is assuming the confession is going to be thrown out ... assuming it will be a non issue when the Stephany Flores case goes to trial.

Janet

++++++


Not Intentional?

Posted: 3:57 PM Jun 22, 2010
Police Report: Significant Head Injuries To Peru Slaying Victim


<snipped>
 
"There was blood everywhere," van der Sloot said in the transcripts. "What am I going to do now. I had blood on my shirt. There was also blood on the bed, so, I took my shirt and put it on her face, pressing hard, until I killed Stephany."

<snipped>

http://www.wibw.com/nationalnews/headlines/96919074.html


What's the Hold Up?

Van der Sloot still waiting on appeal to throw out confession
Last Update: 10/02 10:32 am


<snipped>

The Dutchman confessed to killing Flores because she found material about Natalee on his laptop.  But he promptly appealed to have that confession thrown out citing coercion and a variety of legal issues.  The trial judge rejected that appeal.  A three judge panel split 2-1 in favor of throwing out the confession but under Peruvian law it takes three judges, so a fourth appeals judge has been reviewing the case for weeks with, thus far, no decision.

And even that decision may not bring any real progress to the case.  In the glacial pace of Peruvian justice, if the fourth judge votes against throwing out the confession, a fifth judge will be appointed to produce the third vote necessary to resolve the case.

<snipped>

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-still-waiting-on-appeal-to-throw/g_IM8curMES6_hskxM5Y0w.cspx


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on March 07, 2011, 04:39:41 PM
Very similar to the Radar article.
 
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/joran_van_der_sloot_terror_holloway_lawyer/celebrity/70294

JORAN LAWYER TERROR

Prime suspect in the disappearance of NATALEE HOLLOWAY, Dutch thug JORAN van der SLOOT's lawyer says translators are too scared to get close to the killer, placing his case in jeopardy.

Joran's lawyer told RadarOnline.com that translators are "too scared" to get involved with his controversial client and that the accused killer should be released if he is not questioned again with a qualified translator.

And despite local reports that say the government has completed its investigation and the public prosecutor is about to decide whether to proceed with the case or not, Peruvian lawyer Max Altez Navarro remains skeptical.

The lawyer -- who says he has received death threats -- believes that any confession van der Sloot previously made was illegal and that if he is not formally questioned again with a proper translator within 18 months of being in jail, then he should automatically be released.

Navarro said: "I applied for another extension but I have not heard anything back yet. there are still a lot of things that they need to sort out - there will be no quick trial in this case.

"I believe that the translators are too scared to take on the case; it is like a hot potato, and there are not a lot of them in Peru who can speak Dutch anyways.

"I spoke with Joran today and his spirits were good. He was exercising and he is in regular contact with his mother.

"He was not moved into the general population either and is still being held in the isolation unit where he is treated well.

"I'm limited as to what I can say because he has a Dutch lawyer working with him also - it is not easy, but we are doing our best for him."

And the dispute has been further complicated because the Dutch embassy claims it's not their responsibility to find another translator for him.

Van der Sloot has been in a Peruvian prison since June 2010, accused of murdering 21-year-old student Stephany Flores, the daughter of a prominent Peruvian businessman.





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 07, 2011, 05:33:57 PM
FOX NEWS: Joran will plead Guilty to murdering Stephany, and claim temporary insanity.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: akmom on March 07, 2011, 05:42:11 PM
FOX NEWS: Joran will plead Guilty to murdering Stephany, and claim temporary insanity.


YOU are FAST!!  Just saw this on Fox



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 07, 2011, 05:43:18 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/07/lawyer-van-der-sloot-plead-temporary-insanity/

Lawyer: Van der Sloot to plead temporary insanity


 ::snipping2::
LIMA, Peru –  Joran van der Sloot's lawyer says his client will plead guilty to killing a young Peruvian woman he met gambling but argue temporary insanity in a bid for a shorter sentence.

The attorney for Van der Sloot, who remains the key suspect in the 2005 disappearance of U.S. teenager Natalee Holloway on the Caribbean island of Aruba, says his client will use the "violent emotion" defense in the Stephany Flores case.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on March 07, 2011, 06:11:23 PM
FOX NEWS: Joran will plead Guilty to murdering Stephany, and claim temporary insanity.

"..temporay insanity".  Freakin' psychopathic murderer, more like it.  I hope they can show premeditation. 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: flamom on March 07, 2011, 06:13:29 PM
Hopefully one step closer to justice for Natalee and Stephany  ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on March 07, 2011, 06:31:08 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_peru_van_der_sloot
Lawyer: Van der Sloot to plead temporary insanity
 CARLA SALAZAR, Associated Press Carla Salazar, Associated Press – 50 mins ago
LIMA, Peru – Joran van der Sloot plans to plead guilty to killing a young Peruvian woman he met gambling but will argue temporary insanity in a bid to significantly shorten his sentence, his defense lawyer said Monday.
 ::snipping2::

What a piece of chit.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 07, 2011, 06:33:08 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/07/AR2011030703179.html

Lawyer: Van der Sloot to plead temporary insanity

Monday, March 7, 2011; 4:07 PM

LIMA, Peru -- Joran van der Sloot's lawyer says his client will plead guilty to killing a young Peruvian woman he met gambling but argue temporary insanity in a bid for a shorter sentence.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Red on March 07, 2011, 06:37:29 PM
Joran Van der Sloot To Plead Guilty in Death of of Stephany Flores in Peru … To Plead Temporary Insanity

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/03/07/joran-van-der-sloot-to-plead-guilty-in-death-of-of-stephany-flores-in-peru/

Quote
Joran Van der Sloot is supposed to plead guilty in the death of Stephany Flores in Peru. According to his attorney, Joran Van der Sloot acted in a fit of rage and will plead guilty of manslaughter. As per Peruvian law, manslaughter in a fit of rage carries a sentence of 3 to 5 years, rather than 30 years for murder. Van der Sloot’s  attorney, Maximo Altez, stated that Joran will plead insanity

Temporary insanity ... how about not being able to take no for an answer from a girl?


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 07, 2011, 06:39:19 PM
From Nativelingo:

Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:56 pm   
Nativelingo posted some interresting information about Joran early this morning:

1.  Joran has/had emotional problems and is a patient of a local pediatric/juvenile psychiatrist (fact).
2.  The incident where Joran killed his dog and blamed it on someone else is fact
3.  That bullying friends and the dog issue are the least of Joran's problems (according to reliable sources)
4.  His HOBBY is Criminal Law (fact)

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=83858&highlight=pediatric+paediatric#83858 (link will no longer work, from old forum)



I have no doubt that Natalee was a victim of Joran's rage as well. 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Blue Moon on March 07, 2011, 06:40:20 PM
FOX NEWS: Joran will plead Guilty to murdering Stephany, and claim temporary insanity.

"..temporay insanity".  Freakin' psychopathic murderer, more like it.  I hope they can show premeditation. 

You got that right Muffy.  The article Klaas posted says if the plea is accepted he could get 3-5 years.  NO WAY.  Surely they will NOT let him get by with this using insanity.  Only good thing is the U.S. gets him next if that is the case.  Surely they will make his up to 35 years stand. Surely.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 07, 2011, 06:44:09 PM
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5180/5507815222_f6bd6752b3_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on March 07, 2011, 06:47:09 PM
FOX NEWS: Joran will plead Guilty to murdering Stephany, and claim temporary insanity.

"..temporay insanity".  Freakin' psychopathic murderer, more like it.  I hope they can show premeditation. 

You got that right Muffy.  The article Klaas posted says if the plea is accepted he could get 3-5 years.  NO WAY.  Surely they will NOT let him get by with this using insanity.  Only good thing is the U.S. gets him next if that is the case.  Surely they will make his up to 35 years stand. Surely.

From what I understand there's all the matter of theft of Stephany's property.  Anything that add years to his sentence works for me, including being charged for being butt ugly. JMHO  I'm hoping for the murder charge (premeditated) for starters.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on March 07, 2011, 06:48:14 PM
FOX NEWS: Joran will plead Guilty to murdering Stephany, and claim temporary insanity.

"..temporay insanity".  Freakin' psychopathic murderer, more like it.  I hope they can show premeditation. 

You got that right Muffy.  The article Klaas posted says if the plea is accepted he could get 3-5 years.  NO WAY.  Surely they will NOT let him get by with this using insanity.  Only good thing is the U.S. gets him next if that is the case.  Surely they will make his up to 35 years stand. Surely.

From what I understand there's all the matter of theft of Stephany's property.  Anything that add years to his sentence works for me, including being charged for being butt ugly. JMHO  I'm hoping for the murder charge (premeditated) for starters.

Self-edit, meant also, not all. 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 07, 2011, 06:49:57 PM
From Nativelingo:

Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:56 pm   
Nativelingo posted some interresting information about Joran early this morning:

1.  Joran has/had emotional problems and is a patient of a local pediatric/juvenile psychiatrist (fact).
2.  The incident where Joran killed his dog and blamed it on someone else is fact
3.  That bullying friends and the dog issue are the least of Joran's problems (according to reliable sources)
4.  His HOBBY is Criminal Law (fact)

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=83858&highlight=pediatric+paediatric#83858 (link will no longer work, from old forum)



I have no doubt that Natalee was a victim of Joran's rage as well. 

I have no doubt either.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

3-5 Years will NOT be justice for Stephany!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

It's time he learned there are consequences for his actions, BIG ones.  I'd hoped he was going to learn that in Peru.  I'm still hoping.

jmo



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on March 07, 2011, 06:53:17 PM
From Nativelingo:

Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:56 pm   
Nativelingo posted some interresting information about Joran early this morning:

1.  Joran has/had emotional problems and is a patient of a local pediatric/juvenile psychiatrist (fact).
2.  The incident where Joran killed his dog and blamed it on someone else is fact
3.  That bullying friends and the dog issue are the least of Joran's problems (according to reliable sources)
4.  His HOBBY is Criminal Law (fact)

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=83858&highlight=pediatric+paediatric#83858 (link will no longer work, from old forum)



I have no doubt that Natalee was a victim of Joran's rage as well. 

I have no doubt either.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

3-5 Years will NOT be justice for Stephany!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

It's time he learned there are consequences for his actions, BIG ones.  I'd hoped he was going to learn that in Peru.  I'm still hoping.

jmo


Don't fret people -- I give Joran about 1 week tops lasting in the general population. ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 07, 2011, 06:54:58 PM
Top Story on AOL News.

Very much like all the others.

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/03/07/report-joran-van-der-sloot-offers-to-plead-guilty-to-slaying-fo/?ncid=webmail

Report: Van der Sloot Offers to Plead Guilty for Lesser SentenceMar

Joran van der Sloot, the Dutchman long suspected in the disappearance of U.S. teen Natalee Holloway, is offering to plead guilty in the slaying of a Peruvian woman in exchange for a reduced sentence, according to The Associated Press.

Van der Sloot's attorney, Maximo Altez, said his client is willing to plead guilty to the May 30 killing of Stephany Flores, but will plead "violent emotion," the AP reported.


 ::snipping2::.Flores, a Peruvian business student, was found dead in van der Sloot's hotel room in Lima on June 2. Van der Sloot has been charged with first-degree murder and robbery in the case. He has been held in a Peruvian prison since his arrest in June. Van der Sloot is also a longtime suspect in the 2005 disappearance in Aruba of Holloway, an 18-year-old from Alabama.

Altez said van der Sloot became enraged and killed Flores because she had used his laptop to look up information on the Holloway case, according to the AP.

"I did not want to do it," van der Sloot allegedly told police, according to a Peruvian newspaper report published shortly after his arrest. "The girl intruded into my private life. ... We argued, and she tried to escape. I grabbed her by the neck, and I hit her."

Last week, prosecutors in Peru said there is sufficient evidence in Flores' slaying to keep van der Sloot behind bars until 2040. If van der Sloot's plea is accepted, he would face three to five years in prison.

Investigators believe Flores was killed on May 30, 2010 -- exactly five years after Holloway disappeared. The Alabama teen's body has never been found, and van der Sloot has never been charged in her disappearance. He was indicted in the U.S. on charges that he extorted $25,000 from the young woman's parents. Prosecutors said that in exchange for the money, he promised to reveal how Holloway died and the location of her body.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 07, 2011, 07:05:48 PM
FOX NEWS: Joran will plead Guilty to murdering Stephany, and claim temporary insanity.

"..temporay insanity".  Freakin' psychopathic murderer, more like it.  I hope they can show premeditation. 

You've got that right MuffyBee! 

This was a heinous crime, he didn't just beat her and leave her...he even said she was still breathing so he MADE SURE she was dead.  And he robbed her.  I do believe it was premeditated, everyone close to him knew he was desperate for money.  They should be able to prove the contacts he made in the days before begging for money.  They wouldn't send it so he found a way to get what he wanted.  As usual.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 07, 2011, 07:11:12 PM
Joran Van der Sloot To Plead Guilty in Death of of Stephany Flores in Peru … To Plead Temporary Insanity

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/03/07/joran-van-der-sloot-to-plead-guilty-in-death-of-of-stephany-flores-in-peru/

Quote
Joran Van der Sloot is supposed to plead guilty in the death of Stephany Flores in Peru. According to his attorney, Joran Van der Sloot acted in a fit of rage and will plead guilty of manslaughter. As per Peruvian law, manslaughter in a fit of rage carries a sentence of 3 to 5 years, rather than 30 years for murder. Van der Sloot’s  attorney, Maximo Altez, stated that Joran will plead insanity

Temporary insanity ... how about not being able to take no for an answer from a girl?



REMINDER

Posted: 3:57 PM Jun 22, 2010
Police Report: Significant Head Injuries To Peru Slaying Victim


<snipped>
 
"There was blood everywhere," van der Sloot said in the transcripts. "What am I going to do now. I had blood on my shirt. There was also blood on the bed, so, I took my shirt and put it on her face, pressing hard, until I killed Stephany."

<snipped>

http://www.wibw.com/nationalnews/headlines/96919074.html



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 07, 2011, 07:12:57 PM
Did we post Beth's reaction?

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/07/lawyer-van-der-sloot-plead-temporary-insanity/?test=latestnews (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/07/lawyer-van-der-sloot-plead-temporary-insanity/?test=latestnews)

 ::snipping2::

An attorney for Holloway's mother, Beth Twitty, said she considered the planned plea "outrageous." Twitty knows the Flores family will never accept it and she plans to "make whatever noise she has to" to make sure it doesn't happen, the lawyer, John Kelly, added.

"He's a very slippery, smart criminal," Kelly said of Van der Sloot, adding that any suggestion he "flipped out for a moment" in killing Flores was mocked by the meticulous calculation of his attempt to cover up the crime and his escape.

Kelly also emphasized that even if Peruvian justice were to go easy on Van der Sloot he still faces prosecution in the United States on wire fraud and extortion charges.

An Alabama grand jury indicted the Dutchman in June for allegedly trying to extort $250,000 from Twitty in exchange for information on where she could find her daughter's body.

According to court papers, Van der Sloot received a total of $25,000 a few weeks before Flores' death — money it is believed he used to travel to Peru.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/07/lawyer-van-der-sloot-plead-temporary-insanity/#ixzz1FxilTDkR


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 07, 2011, 07:15:45 PM
Peter De Vries' Twitter

http://twitter.com/PeterRdeV

En Joran... voert nu een strafmaatverweer. Hij bekent. Recent riep zijn advocaat nog dat hij voor vrijspraak ging. Dat zal het niet worden.
about 5 hours ago via web

Google translation:

And Joran ... now carries a penalty defense. He confesses. Recently called his lawyer added that he was acquitted. It will not be.
about 5 hours ago from web


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 07, 2011, 07:18:14 PM
http://www.abcnews.go.com/

From his original confession
 ::snipping2::
She hit me in the head. I lost control of my actions. I didn't know what I was doing. I remember what I was doing, but not the motive. It was an impulsive act after receiving a blow to the head," van der Sloot said in a signed confession to police last year.

"She was on the bed when I hit her hard with my right elbow and I think her head went back and hit the wall, then she begins to bleed," he said. "Immediately I get on top of her and with both hands I begin to strangle her, keeping her that way for a minute.

"After that, I throw her to the floor, but she keeps breathing. At that moment I take off my shirt and put it on her face, pressing on it. I don't remember for how long, but she stops breathing. In this way I think I caused her death," he said when investigators asked for a details description of the murder.
 ::snipping2::

I don't believe that Stephany ever looked at his computer.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 07, 2011, 07:19:32 PM
Did we post Beth's reaction?

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/07/lawyer-van-der-sloot-plead-temporary-insanity/?test=latestnews (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/07/lawyer-van-der-sloot-plead-temporary-insanity/?test=latestnews)

 ::snipping2::

An attorney for Holloway's mother, Beth Twitty, said she considered the planned plea "outrageous." Twitty knows the Flores family will never accept it and she plans to "make whatever noise she has to" to make sure it doesn't happen, the lawyer, John Kelly, added.

"He's a very slippery, smart criminal," Kelly said of Van der Sloot, adding that any suggestion he "flipped out for a moment" in killing Flores was mocked by the meticulous calculation of his attempt to cover up the crime and his escape.

Kelly also emphasized that even if Peruvian justice were to go easy on Van der Sloot he still faces prosecution in the United States on wire fraud and extortion charges.

An Alabama grand jury indicted the Dutchman in June for allegedly trying to extort $250,000 from Twitty in exchange for information on where she could find her daughter's body.

According to court papers, Van der Sloot received a total of $25,000 a few weeks before Flores' death — money it is believed he used to travel to Peru.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/07/lawyer-van-der-sloot-plead-temporary-insanity/#ixzz1FxilTDkR


Thanks Klaas!   ::MonkeyCool::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 07, 2011, 07:20:30 PM
http://www.abcnews.go.com/

From his original confession
 ::snipping2::
She hit me in the head. I lost control of my actions. I didn't know what I was doing. I remember what I was doing, but not the motive. It was an impulsive act after receiving a blow to the head," van der Sloot said in a signed confession to police last year.

"She was on the bed when I hit her hard with my right elbow and I think her head went back and hit the wall, then she begins to bleed," he said. "Immediately I get on top of her and with both hands I begin to strangle her, keeping her that way for a minute.

"After that, I throw her to the floor, but she keeps breathing. At that moment I take off my shirt and put it on her face, pressing on it. I don't remember for how long, but she stops breathing. In this way I think I caused her death," he said when investigators asked for a details description of the murder.
 ::snipping2::

I don't believe that Stephany ever looked at his computer.



I don't either Magnolia.  Just one more lie from Joran van der Sloot.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 07, 2011, 07:26:53 PM
From Nativelingo:

Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:56 pm   
Nativelingo posted some interresting information about Joran early this morning:

1.  Joran has/had emotional problems and is a patient of a local pediatric/juvenile psychiatrist (fact).
2.  The incident where Joran killed his dog and blamed it on someone else is fact
3.  That bullying friends and the dog issue are the least of Joran's problems (according to reliable sources)
4.  His HOBBY is Criminal Law (fact)

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=83858&highlight=pediatric+paediatric#83858 (link will no longer work, from old forum)



I have no doubt that Natalee was a victim of Joran's rage as well. 

I have no doubt either.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

3-5 Years will NOT be justice for Stephany!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

It's time he learned there are consequences for his actions, BIG ones.  I'd hoped he was going to learn that in Peru.  I'm still hoping.

jmo


Don't fret people -- I give Joran about 1 week tops lasting in the general population. ::MonkeyCool::

I wish I could believe you're right Wreck...but from what I've read, he would only be in general population with the "foreigners" including the Dutch that Anita is trying to help also with her website.  She's probably already started having the blonde take them food too!  He will be a celebrity since they all know how his evil mother is doing everything she can to make their time served better for them...if she can't get them all sent to the Netherlands!
 ::pullinghairout::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on March 07, 2011, 07:29:56 PM
http://www.abcnews.go.com/

From his original confession
 ::snipping2::
She hit me in the head. I lost control of my actions. I didn't know what I was doing. I remember what I was doing, but not the motive. It was an impulsive act after receiving a blow to the head," van der Sloot said in a signed confession to police last year.

"She was on the bed when I hit her hard with my right elbow and I think her head went back and hit the wall, then she begins to bleed," he said. "Immediately I get on top of her and with both hands I begin to strangle her, keeping her that way for a minute.

"After that, I throw her to the floor, but she keeps breathing. At that moment I take off my shirt and put it on her face, pressing on it. I don't remember for how long, but she stops breathing. In this way I think I caused her death," he said when investigators asked for a details description of the murder.
 ::snipping2::

I don't believe that Stephany ever looked at his computer.


BBM

I don't care rather she did or not.  What kind of insane animal kills a woman because she looks at his computer? 

He was too stupido to realize the victim he had chosen for that night was financially and politically connected in that country..much more so then he in his.  Her family is a wonderful caring family..his not so much.  Her father a national hero..his a letch.

Joren picked the wrong time, place and person ..thank you God.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: San on March 07, 2011, 07:31:47 PM
http://www.abcnews.go.com/

From his original confession
 ::snipping2::
She hit me in the head. I lost control of my actions. I didn't know what I was doing. I remember what I was doing, but not the motive. It was an impulsive act after receiving a blow to the head," van der Sloot said in a signed confession to police last year.

"She was on the bed when I hit her hard with my right elbow and I think her head went back and hit the wall, then she begins to bleed," he said. "Immediately I get on top of her and with both hands I begin to strangle her, keeping her that way for a minute.

"After that, I throw her to the floor, but she keeps breathing. At that moment I take off my shirt and put it on her face, pressing on it. I don't remember for how long, but she stops breathing. In this way I think I caused her death," he said when investigators asked for a details description of the murder.
 ::snipping2::

I don't believe that Stephany ever looked at his computer.


I don't believe she looked at it either.  Everything is a calculated lie.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on March 07, 2011, 07:41:21 PM
http://www.abcnews.go.com/

From his original confession
 ::snipping2::
She hit me in the head. I lost control of my actions. I didn't know what I was doing. I remember what I was doing, but not the motive. It was an impulsive act after receiving a blow to the head," van der Sloot said in a signed confession to police last year.

"She was on the bed when I hit her hard with my right elbow and I think her head went back and hit the wall, then she begins to bleed," he said. "Immediately I get on top of her and with both hands I begin to strangle her, keeping her that way for a minute.

"After that, I throw her to the floor, but she keeps breathing. At that moment I take off my shirt and put it on her face, pressing on it. I don't remember for how long, but she stops breathing. In this way I think I caused her death," he said when investigators asked for a details description of the murder.
 ::snipping2::

I don't believe that Stephany ever looked at his computer.


I don't believe she looked at it either.  Everything is a calculated lie.

I don't believe she looked at the computer either.  I don't think she really cared about him or his notoriety.  Joran is a legend in his own mind, and he tries to make it appear everyone is interested in him.  It's my belief Stephany was lured to the hotel room, possibly by the promise of collecting money she may have loaned him while they were gambling.  I don't think Stephany gave a rats arse about Sloot other than as someone else who enjoyed gambling and possibly to collect money owed to her. JMHO


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 07, 2011, 07:50:47 PM
http://www.abcnews.go.com/

From his original confession
 ::snipping2::
She hit me in the head. I lost control of my actions. I didn't know what I was doing. I remember what I was doing, but not the motive. It was an impulsive act after receiving a blow to the head," van der Sloot said in a signed confession to police last year.

"She was on the bed when I hit her hard with my right elbow and I think her head went back and hit the wall, then she begins to bleed," he said. "Immediately I get on top of her and with both hands I begin to strangle her, keeping her that way for a minute.

"After that, I throw her to the floor, but she keeps breathing. At that moment I take off my shirt and put it on her face, pressing on it. I don't remember for how long, but she stops breathing. In this way I think I caused her death," he said when investigators asked for a details description of the murder.
 ::snipping2::

I don't believe that Stephany ever looked at his computer.


I don't believe she looked at it either.  Everything is a calculated lie.

I don't believe she looked at the computer either.  I don't think she really cared about him or his notoriety.  Joran is a legend in his own mind, and he tries to make it appear everyone is interested in him.  It's my belief Stephany was lured to the hotel room, possibly by the promise of collecting money she may have loaned him while they were gambling.  I don't think Stephany gave a rats arse about Sloot other than as someone else who enjoyed gambling and possibly to collect money owed to her. JMHO

I agree.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: San on March 07, 2011, 07:58:20 PM
Very similar to the Radar article.
 
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/joran_van_der_sloot_terror_holloway_lawyer/celebrity/70294

JORAN LAWYER TERROR

Prime suspect in the disappearance of NATALEE HOLLOWAY, Dutch thug JORAN van der SLOOT's lawyer says translators are too scared to get close to the killer, placing his case in jeopardy.

Joran's lawyer told RadarOnline.com that translators are "too scared" to get involved with his controversial client and that the accused killer should be released if he is not questioned again with a qualified translator.

And despite local reports that say the government has completed its investigation and the public prosecutor is about to decide whether to proceed with the case or not, Peruvian lawyer Max Altez Navarro remains skeptical.

The lawyer -- who says he has received death threats -- believes that any confession van der Sloot previously made was illegal and that if he is not formally questioned again with a proper translator within 18 months of being in jail, then he should automatically be released.

Navarro said: "I applied for another extension but I have not heard anything back yet. there are still a lot of things that they need to sort out - there will be no quick trial in this case.

"I believe that the translators are too scared to take on the case; it is like a hot potato, and there are not a lot of them in Peru who can speak Dutch anyways.

"I spoke with Joran today and his spirits were good. He was exercising and he is in regular contact with his mother.

"He was not moved into the general population either and is still being held in the isolation unit where he is treated well.

"I'm limited as to what I can say because he has a Dutch lawyer working with him also - it is not easy, but we are doing our best for him."

And the dispute has been further complicated because the Dutch embassy claims it's not their responsibility to find another translator for him.

Van der Sloot has been in a Peruvian prison since June 2010, accused of murdering 21-year-old student Stephany Flores, the daughter of a prominent Peruvian businessman.


I bet Peter der Vries will be happy to take the case on and be his translator  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: San on March 07, 2011, 07:59:45 PM
http://www.abcnews.go.com/

From his original confession
 ::snipping2::
She hit me in the head. I lost control of my actions. I didn't know what I was doing. I remember what I was doing, but not the motive. It was an impulsive act after receiving a blow to the head," van der Sloot said in a signed confession to police last year.

"She was on the bed when I hit her hard with my right elbow and I think her head went back and hit the wall, then she begins to bleed," he said. "Immediately I get on top of her and with both hands I begin to strangle her, keeping her that way for a minute.

"After that, I throw her to the floor, but she keeps breathing. At that moment I take off my shirt and put it on her face, pressing on it. I don't remember for how long, but she stops breathing. In this way I think I caused her death," he said when investigators asked for a details description of the murder.
 ::snipping2::

I don't believe that Stephany ever looked at his computer.


I don't believe she looked at it either.  Everything is a calculated lie.

I don't believe she looked at the computer either.  I don't think she really cared about him or his notoriety.  Joran is a legend in his own mind, and he tries to make it appear everyone is interested in him.  It's my belief Stephany was lured to the hotel room, possibly by the promise of collecting money she may have loaned him while they were gambling.  I don't think Stephany gave a rats arse about Sloot other than as someone else who enjoyed gambling and possibly to collect money owed to her. JMHO

I agree especially with the legend comment.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 07, 2011, 08:06:08 PM
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5180/5507815222_f6bd6752b3_o.jpg)

BUMPED


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: tupelohoney on March 07, 2011, 08:06:13 PM
Will Joran taking the insanity route over there, have any bearing here in the States on the extortions charges?  Or will we do our own testing for that?


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 07, 2011, 08:10:09 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Grad00o9.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanyFlores_takentoosoon-1.jpg)

Justice for Natalee and Stephany!


 ::MonkeyJustice::


REAL JUSTICE, NOTHING LESS WILL DO!   ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 07, 2011, 08:11:35 PM
Will Joran taking the insanity route over there, have any bearing here in the States on the extortions charges?  Or will we do our own testing for that?

I don't think so.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 07, 2011, 08:33:01 PM
http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/van-der-sloot%E2%80%99s-lawyer-seeks-short-sentence

Van der Sloot’s lawyer seeks short sentence

Published on 7 March 2011 - 3:07pm

Joran van der Sloot’s lawyer says his client killed Stephany Flores ‘in a fit of rage’. Máximo Altez argues this means it was manslaughter, not murder.

Mr Altez made this statement on the Peruvian television show Domingo Al Día. He said there was no premeditated plan to kill Stephany; the two got into an argument after Stephany had looked at Joran’s laptop: “They started pushing each other and that is why it happened.”

Under Peruvian law, manslaughter in a fit of rage carries a prison sentence of between three and five years. Joran van der Sloot will face a 25-year sentence if he is convicted of murder.

 ::snipping2::

The lawyer representing the victim’s next of kin say Altez’ new strategy does not stand a chance.

 ::snipping2::





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: SuzieQ on March 07, 2011, 08:36:59 PM
http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/van-der-sloot%E2%80%99s-lawyer-seeks-short-sentence

Van der Sloot’s lawyer seeks short sentence

Published on 7 March 2011 - 3:07pm

Joran van der Sloot’s lawyer says his client killed Stephany Flores ‘in a fit of rage’. Máximo Altez argues this means it was manslaughter, not murder.

Mr Altez made this statement on the Peruvian television show Domingo Al Día. He said there was no premeditated plan to kill Stephany; the two got into an argument after Stephany had looked at Joran’s laptop: “They started pushing each other and that is why it happened.”

Under Peruvian law, manslaughter in a fit of rage carries a prison sentence of between three and five years. Joran van der Sloot will face a 25-year sentence if he is convicted of murder.

 ::snipping2::

The lawyer representing the victim’s next of kin say Altez’ new strategy does not stand a chance.
 ::snipping2::






We hope and pray.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 07, 2011, 08:54:54 PM

Lawyer: Van der Sloot to plead temporary insanity
Published March 07, 2011


<snipped>

The lawyer for the victim’s family called the proposed plea absurd, saying that given all the factors of the case, Van der Sloot deserved to spend a minimum of 25 years in prison.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/07/lawyer-van-der-sloot-plead-temporary-insanity/#ixzz1FxilTDkR



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Kermit on March 07, 2011, 09:23:18 PM
FOX NEWS: Joran will plead Guilty to murdering Stephany, and claim temporary insanity.

"..temporay insanity".  Freakin' psychopathic murderer, more like it.  I hope they can show premeditation. 

You've got that right MuffyBee! 

This was a heinous crime, he didn't just beat her and leave her...he even said she was still breathing so he MADE SURE she was dead.  And he robbed her.  I do believe it was premeditated, everyone close to him knew he was desperate for money.  They should be able to prove the contacts he made in the days before begging for money.  They wouldn't send it so he found a way to get what he wanted.  As usual.

I agree. All one has to do is look at that poor child's body - her clinched hand, fighting, trying to cling to life, while
he beat her over and over.

He wasn't insane planning to extort money, playing bingo with his mother, adding friends on facebook, playing mafia wars, posting to his friends that he was working just a few days before he murdered Stephany Flores.




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Kermit on March 07, 2011, 09:32:39 PM
From Nativelingo:

Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:56 pm   
Nativelingo posted some interresting information about Joran early this morning:

1.  Joran has/had emotional problems and is a patient of a local pediatric/juvenile psychiatrist (fact).
2.  The incident where Joran killed his dog and blamed it on someone else is fact
3.  That bullying friends and the dog issue are the least of Joran's problems (according to reliable sources)
4.  His HOBBY is Criminal Law (fact)

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=83858&highlight=pediatric+paediatric#83858 (link will no longer work, from old forum)



I have no doubt that Natalee was a victim of Joran's rage as well. 

There is a reason that Joran & Papa did not want Natalee's body found.
Rape - he could have said it was consensual
Drugs - he could have blamed her
"She hit her head" - was to cover the injury to her head.

Lets see how the Leprechauns answer questions - in a USA court under interrogation with a competent attorney eh!!!!



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on March 07, 2011, 09:37:36 PM
July 19, 2010

....
Romero said she became involved with van der Sloot after learning that he refused a state-appointed attorney and requested a private attorney.

"I asked (van der Sloot) if he wanted my services and he said yes," Romero said. "I told him the on-duty defense attorney was present and I asked him if he wanted to give a statement through them. He said no, he wanted a private defense attorney."

Van der Sloot wanted to talk to her about the case, she said, but felt uncomfortable with the others in the room -- the prosecutor, a police officer and a translator.

After the others left, the two reached a verbal agreement that she would represent him. Romero remembers asking him about payment. He replied that his mother would pay his legal fees. Then, the others returned to the room and he gave his confession to authorities.
...
Another contradiction that Romero brought forward involves van der Sloot's knowledge of Spanish. According to the motion to dismiss his confession as illegal, van der Sloot alleges that he didn't understand Spanish enough to know what he was being told to sign.

Romero said their conversation was in perfect Spanish.

According to Romero, van der Sloot was calm during his statement and afterwards spoke with his mother on the phone. Her advice, Romero said, was her son not make any statements or sign anything. But it was too late.

Van der Sloot also told Romero that he was interested in talking about the case of missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway in Aruba, where he is a suspect, because he thought it might get him extradited to Aruba.

Referring to his new legal strategy, Romero said, "I think every attorney does his work differently, they have their own professional ethic. I respect this professional (Altez) but his actions point to (wanting) to nullify the preliminary investigation. But like I said he had all the guarantees of the due process."

She also questioned the truthfulness of van der Sloot. For instance, when he signed some documents after talking to his mother, Romero noticed that he signed very differently than what he signed on the police statement, she said.

"I told him, 'you signed differently' and he winked his eye and made a silence signal with his hands," Romero said.

 ::snipping2::

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-07-19/justice/peru.van.der.sloot.attorney_1_van-der-sloot-joran?_s=PM:CRIME



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 07, 2011, 09:42:42 PM
By the way, I don't think Nativelingo and Arubagirl like having their words come back to bite them.  They chose defending their island over the truth. 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on March 07, 2011, 09:43:07 PM
I find it interesting that the Dutch and US news does not include the statement from the Flores attorney:

Spanish to English translation

THE VICTIM. For his part, Edward Alvarez, attorney for the family of the victim, said, "This new defense strategy would raise Van der Sloot does not stand scrutiny."

Indicated that this version is false, because there is a report by the Division of High Technology Research, who states that the review of the laptop abroad with information from Aruba crime occurred long before it enters the hotel.

"This is a homicide and also has committed a crime of theft by seizing property. That rating is unchanged," said the lawyer.

 ::snipping2::

http://correoperu.pe/correo/nota.php?txtEdi_id=4&txtSecci_parent=0&txtSecci_id=78&txtNota_id=571299


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 07, 2011, 09:50:48 PM
I hope that the influence of Ricardo Flores implies that justice will prevail for Stephany  in the Peruvian justice system ... a system that Stephany's father complained treats Joran van der Sloot "like a king".

Janet

+++++

Van der Sloot lawyer argues "crime of passion"
Last Update: 6:29 am
 

Birmingham, Al (WIAT CBS42)  The body of a young woman was found in Joran van der Sloot's Lima hotel room five years to the day of Natalee Holloway's disappearance on a school trip to Aruba.

Prosecutors in Peru say van der Sloot has admitted killing Stephany Flores after she found material on his laptop relating to Natalee.

Peruvian prosecutors say Joran van der Sloot killed Stephany Flores in cold blood and want an extra long sentence. The Dutchman's lawyer says it was a spontaneous, emotional act and his client should face no more than three to five years.

Van der Sloot's Peruvian lawyer, Max Altez, told the television program "Domingo al Dia" that the death was the result of a violent argument, not intentional. Altez says he's asking his client face a 3-5 year sentence, not the 30 years prosecutors are asking for.

Edward Alvarez,an attorney for the Flores family, told El Commercio that the family rejects the defense claims and is backing the prosecution.   No trial date has been set yet and there's still plenty of legal wrangling unresolved, including whose responsibility is it to provide a Dutch-Spanish translator. The Dutch embassy has said it's not their job.

<snipped>

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-lawyer-argues-crime-of-passion/15DPrr_wtUSy1rQDkhbCBw.cspx




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 07, 2011, 09:51:21 PM
Urine and his family will continue to try and keep the lights on him because they know once the lights go down there's going to be a pillow party in CastroCastro and Urine is the guest of honor....Mark my words!


::piggy::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: cecilita on March 07, 2011, 09:52:40 PM
Hi Monkeys,
I really would like to know what the Peruvian police saw in the monster's laptop. At this point I believe they should have some or a lot of information from his laptop ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 07, 2011, 09:59:01 PM
July 19, 2010

....
Romero said she became involved with van der Sloot after learning that he refused a state-appointed attorney and requested a private attorney.

"I asked (van der Sloot) if he wanted my services and he said yes," Romero said. "I told him the on-duty defense attorney was present and I asked him if he wanted to give a statement through them. He said no, he wanted a private defense attorney."

Van der Sloot wanted to talk to her about the case, she said, but felt uncomfortable with the others in the room -- the prosecutor, a police officer and a translator.

After the others left, the two reached a verbal agreement that she would represent him. Romero remembers asking him about payment. He replied that his mother would pay his legal fees. Then, the others returned to the room and he gave his confession to authorities.
...
Another contradiction that Romero brought forward involves van der Sloot's knowledge of Spanish. According to the motion to dismiss his confession as illegal, van der Sloot alleges that he didn't understand Spanish enough to know what he was being told to sign.

Romero said their conversation was in perfect Spanish.

According to Romero, van der Sloot was calm during his statement and afterwards spoke with his mother on the phone. Her advice, Romero said, was her son not make any statements or sign anything. But it was too late.

Van der Sloot also told Romero that he was interested in talking about the case of missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway in Aruba, where he is a suspect, because he thought it might get him extradited to Aruba.

Referring to his new legal strategy, Romero said, "I think every attorney does his work differently, they have their own professional ethic. I respect this professional (Altez) but his actions point to (wanting) to nullify the preliminary investigation. But like I said he had all the guarantees of the due process."

She also questioned the truthfulness of van der Sloot. For instance, when he signed some documents after talking to his mother, Romero noticed that he signed very differently than what he signed on the police statement, she said.

"I told him, 'you signed differently' and he winked his eye and made a silence signal with his hands," Romero said.

 ::snipping2::

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-07-19/justice/peru.van.der.sloot.attorney_1_van-der-sloot-joran?_s=PM:CRIME



When the above article is considered ... WHY is it taking that 4th judge so long to rule whether or not Joran's confession can be thrown out?  It has been almost six months.

Janet

++++++


What's the Hold Up?

Van der Sloot still waiting on appeal to throw out confession
Last Update: 10/02 10:32 am


<snipped>

The Dutchman confessed to killing Flores because she found material about Natalee on his laptop.  But he promptly appealed to have that confession thrown out citing coercion and a variety of legal issues.  The trial judge rejected that appeal.  A three judge panel split 2-1 in favor of throwing out the confession but under Peruvian law it takes three judges, so a fourth appeals judge has been reviewing the case for weeks with, thus far, no decision.

And even that decision may not bring any real progress to the case.  In the glacial pace of Peruvian justice, if the fourth judge votes against throwing out the confession, a fifth judge will be appointed to produce the third vote necessary to resolve the case.

<snipped>

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-still-waiting-on-appeal-to-throw/g_IM8curMES6_hskxM5Y0w.cspx


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on March 07, 2011, 10:05:35 PM
Hi Monkeys,
I really would like to know what the Peruvian police saw in the monster's laptop. At this point I believe they should have some or a lot of information from his laptop ::MonkeyTongue::

I'd like to know what was on Joran's laptop too.  With Joran's over inflated ego and great belief in his self worth, I hope there's a treasure trove of evidence on it.  I've read that some that commit crimes like to retain items or pictures and videos  of what they've done, and I hope Joran's laptop had stuff like that on it.  Maybe what he saved on his computer will be his undoing, and there will be justice for Natalee and Stephany.  Heck, he might even have a lot more than that on there that could put him away for years and years. 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 07, 2011, 10:32:35 PM
July 19, 2010

....
Romero said she became involved with van der Sloot after learning that he refused a state-appointed attorney and requested a private attorney.

"I asked (van der Sloot) if he wanted my services and he said yes," Romero said. "I told him the on-duty defense attorney was present and I asked him if he wanted to give a statement through them. He said no, he wanted a private defense attorney."

Van der Sloot wanted to talk to her about the case, she said, but felt uncomfortable with the others in the room -- the prosecutor, a police officer and a translator.

After the others left, the two reached a verbal agreement that she would represent him. Romero remembers asking him about payment. He replied that his mother would pay his legal fees. Then, the others returned to the room and he gave his confession to authorities.
...
Another contradiction that Romero brought forward involves van der Sloot's knowledge of Spanish. According to the motion to dismiss his confession as illegal, van der Sloot alleges that he didn't understand Spanish enough to know what he was being told to sign.

Romero said their conversation was in perfect Spanish.

According to Romero, van der Sloot was calm during his statement and afterwards spoke with his mother on the phone. Her advice, Romero said, was her son not make any statements or sign anything. But it was too late.

Van der Sloot also told Romero that he was interested in talking about the case of missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway in Aruba, where he is a suspect, because he thought it might get him extradited to Aruba.

Referring to his new legal strategy, Romero said, "I think every attorney does his work differently, they have their own professional ethic. I respect this professional (Altez) but his actions point to (wanting) to nullify the preliminary investigation. But like I said he had all the guarantees of the due process."

She also questioned the truthfulness of van der Sloot. For instance, when he signed some documents after talking to his mother, Romero noticed that he signed very differently than what he signed on the police statement, she said.

"I told him, 'you signed differently' and he winked his eye and made a silence signal with his hands," Romero said.

 ::snipping2::

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-07-19/justice/peru.van.der.sloot.attorney_1_van-der-sloot-joran?_s=PM:CRIME



Of course he speaks perfect Spanish!  Don't you know some of Joran's Aruba friends are getting a big kick out of his claiming he needs a translator!
 ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 07, 2011, 10:40:12 PM
Hi Monkeys,
I really would like to know what the Peruvian police saw in the monster's laptop. At this point I believe they should have some or a lot of information from his laptop ::MonkeyTongue::

I'd like to know what was on Joran's laptop too.  With Joran's over inflated ego and great belief in his self worth, I hope there's a treasure trove of evidence on it.  I've read that some that commit crimes like to retain items or pictures and videos  of what they've done, and I hope Joran's laptop had stuff like that on it.  Maybe what he saved on his computer will be his undoing, and there will be justice for Natalee and Stephany.  Heck, he might even have a lot more than that on there that could put him away for years and years. 

Most likely  ::MonkeyCool::

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5052/5508343446_baab60e4dc.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 07, 2011, 10:48:27 PM
http://www.emerson.edu/academics/registrar/academic-calendars/spring-2011

MARCH   4   Classes end at 9:45 pm
First seven-week session ends

5    Residence halls close at 12:00 noon
5–13   Spring Break (no classes held)

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=563135080

Valentijn van der Sloot

(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/187708_563135080_1605024_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 07, 2011, 10:52:26 PM
I really wonder about Valentijn.  I'd like to think that of the 3 he is the most normal.  I don't have much hope for Sabas.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 07, 2011, 11:01:54 PM
Looking through some old images  ::MonkeyDevil::
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5214/5508393470_fae687ded8_o.gif)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 07, 2011, 11:02:43 PM
I really wonder about Valentijn.  I'd like to think that of the 3 he is the most normal.  I don't have much hope for Sabas.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

He may be the "most" normal or the best at "appearing" to be...but I really think he's got issues too.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

jmo


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 07, 2011, 11:03:07 PM
Looking through some old images  ::MonkeyDevil::
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5214/5508393470_fae687ded8_o.gif)
::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 07, 2011, 11:51:03 PM
http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/joran-van-der-sloot-and-natalee-holloway/ (http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/joran-van-der-sloot-and-natalee-holloway/)

Joran van der Sloot and Natalee Holloway

Greta Van Susteren | March 7, 2011 9:54 PM

Before any of you "hit the roof" because Joran may get a light sentence for murder in Peru and be out soon....think about this: he faces charges in the USA for defrauding Beth Holloway and the USA can put an international detainer on him and thus Peru will release Joran to FBI when he finishes his time in Peru. He will then end up in a USA prison....so as deplorable as it is that the Flores woman's killer gets off easy, there is more justice coming for Joran.




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 08, 2011, 12:06:20 AM
I really wonder about Valentijn.  I'd like to think that of the 3 he is the most normal.  I don't have much hope for Sabas.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

He may be the "most" normal or the best at "appearing" to be...but I really think he's got issues too.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

jmo


I think Val knows exactly what happened to Natalee.  I cannot understand why he
has never been questioned.
Sebas is just the widow Van der Sloot's baby boy and will always be. imo


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: billb's daughter on March 08, 2011, 01:20:52 AM
urine...dead man walking.....however it ends... ::MonkeyDevil::
Natalee...A loss for all that is right! Beth has shown us that.. ::MonkeyAngel::.Natalee is missed and it is a direct result of aruba.......
Hearts are broken every day....so sad......


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: billb's daughter on March 08, 2011, 01:24:16 AM
http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/joran-van-der-sloot-and-natalee-holloway/ (http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/joran-van-der-sloot-and-natalee-holloway/)

Joran van der Sloot and Natalee Holloway

Greta Van Susteren | March 7, 2011 9:54 PM

Before any of you "hit the roof" because Joran may get a light sentence for murder in Peru and be out soon....think about this: he faces charges in the USA for defrauding Beth Holloway and the USA can put an international detainer on him and thus Peru will release Joran to FBI when he finishes his time in Peru. He will then end up in a USA prison....so as deplorable as it is that the Flores woman's killer gets off easy, there is more justice coming for Joran.



No disrespect Klaas.....urine ain't getting off easy in Peru.....Stephany's family got that covered...Castro Castro is the end of the line for urine....


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 08, 2011, 01:25:58 AM
http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/joran-van-der-sloot-and-natalee-holloway/ (http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/joran-van-der-sloot-and-natalee-holloway/)

Joran van der Sloot and Natalee Holloway

Greta Van Susteren | March 7, 2011 9:54 PM

Before any of you "hit the roof" because Joran may get a light sentence for murder in Peru and be out soon....think about this: he faces charges in the USA for defrauding Beth Holloway and the USA can put an international detainer on him and thus Peru will release Joran to FBI when he finishes his time in Peru. He will then end up in a USA prison....so as deplorable as it is that the Flores woman's killer gets off easy, there is more justice coming for Joran.


If he lives long enough, I want him to do the maximum for both crimes.

I want it all!   ::MonkeyGavel::

And the longer he's in prison in Peru, the longer Anita van der Sloot won't be in the USA bunking with relatives...or Jan Brennan, and catering to him here! 
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 08, 2011, 01:31:05 AM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20471736,00.html

Joran van der Sloot to Plead Guilty to Killing Stephany Flores Ramirez
By Sara Hammel

Monday March 07, 2011 06:05 PM EST

Stephany Flores Ramirez and Joran van der Sloot

Splash News Online; AP
Facebook Twitter E-mail

Joran van der Sloot will plead guilty to killing 21-year-old Stephany Flores Ramirez in Peru last May, but will argue temporary insanity, according to reports.

The Dutchman, 23, will try for a reduced sentence using the "violent emotion" defense, his lawyer, Maximo Altez, told The Associated Press.

The lawyer argues that Van der Sloot killed Ramirez on May 30 after becoming enraged when he realized she had looked at his laptop and learned of his connection to missing American teen Natalee Holloway, who disappeared from the island of Aruba in 2005.

Ramirez, a Peruvian business student, was found bludgeoned to death in a Lima hotel room. Van der Sloot stands accused of first-degree murder – in Peru that means a 15- to 35-year sentence if convicted. But if his insanity defense holds up, Van der Sloot could serve only 20 months of a 3-5-year sentence, Altez told the AP.

 ::snipping2::

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 08, 2011, 01:33:35 AM
I really wonder about Valentijn.  I'd like to think that of the 3 he is the most normal.  I don't have much hope for Sabas.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

He may be the "most" normal or the best at "appearing" to be...but I really think he's got issues too.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

jmo


I think Val knows exactly what happened to Natalee.  I cannot understand why he
has never been questioned.
Sebas is just the widow Van der Sloot's baby boy and will always be. imo

Anita's baby boy is a pervert.  jmo


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: billb's daughter on March 08, 2011, 01:35:33 AM
For me...the best thing that happens to urine is that he lives a life behind bars for a very long time.......before he lives a life in Hell for eternity......
At this point, six years later...we know what he did to Natalee and now Stephany...
Justice is playing out for both......and for paulass...anita...the pimps.....coverup crew.....persistence....I can live with that.....


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 08, 2011, 01:37:01 AM
I really wonder about Valentijn.  I'd like to think that of the 3 he is the most normal.  I don't have much hope for Sabas.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

He may be the "most" normal or the best at "appearing" to be...but I really think he's got issues too.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

jmo


I think Val knows exactly what happened to Natalee.  I cannot understand why he
has never been questioned.
Sebas is just the widow Van der Sloot's baby boy and will always be. imo

I think Val knows too.  Maybe that's why he drinks so much, or maybe it's just the Aruban way...I dunno.
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 08, 2011, 01:42:03 AM
Klaas, is this the same one you posted?  If it is I missed the shirt.  Don't ya know Dolfi appreciates the advertisement!
 
::MonkeyNoNo::


http://www.coolaruba.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1736854

Carnival 57th @ Oranjestad 6Mrt 2011 Part1 By REX

(http://www.coolaruba.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1736856&g2_serialNumber=3)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 08, 2011, 02:03:21 AM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Grad00o9.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanyFlores_takentoosoon-1.jpg)

Justice for Natalee and Stephany!


 ::MonkeyJustice::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 08, 2011, 02:33:45 AM
I pray that URINE plays his hand right into an American prison becuase he's known for being such a great poker player. I'm going to take an astrology class and see if I can get the stars to align... Which state would he serve his time in? ALABAMA...ROLL TIDE.

DREAM BIG MONKEY'S


KEEPTHEFAITH



 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 08, 2011, 02:37:42 AM
TWO ANGELS


::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


FREEBIRDS

THEY CARRY THE MONKEY'S WHEN WE LEAST EXPECT IT





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: darleenofalabama on March 08, 2011, 02:45:22 AM
Isn't this just something his lawyers have put forth as a defense strategy? It hasn't actually been accepted, has it?  Does her father have anything to say about it, anything for the judge and jury to consider?  And, right, Klaasend, the bottom line is that he will get a lot worse sentence here for extortion.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: darleenofalabama on March 08, 2011, 02:46:05 AM
So, he ought to be trying to get as long a sentence as possible before he's sent over here.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: darleenofalabama on March 08, 2011, 02:50:27 AM
And where is Nonesuche?  What has she done now? LOL


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 08, 2011, 03:39:49 AM
http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/joran-van-der-sloot-and-natalee-holloway/ (http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/joran-van-der-sloot-and-natalee-holloway/)

Joran van der Sloot and Natalee Holloway

Greta Van Susteren | March 7, 2011 9:54 PM

Before any of you "hit the roof" because Joran may get a light sentence for murder in Peru and be out soon....think about this: he faces charges in the USA for defrauding Beth Holloway and the USA can put an international detainer on him and thus Peru will release Joran to FBI when he finishes his time in Peru. He will then end up in a USA prison....so as deplorable as it is that the Flores woman's killer gets off easy, there is more justice coming for Joran.




It's the first time there has been ANY justice for Joran. I'm wondering how Stephany's parents are feeling about this.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: carpe noctem on March 08, 2011, 03:45:31 AM
So Joran's attorney is admitting that Joran killed Stephany, his argument is that he claims it was a crime of passion and not intentional.  So he killed Stephany in a fit of rage.  Maybe she said NO like Natalee did.

(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/joran.jpg)


Don't you just hate it when you get a fit of rage so bad...

You go out and calmly pick up a couple of cups of coffee?

Or try to stuff a dead body in a suit case?

Or change a dead person's outfit?

Or study your local high tide charts?

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Joran is so over. (and so pathetic)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 08, 2011, 03:58:12 AM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20471736,00.html

Joran van der Sloot to Plead Guilty to Killing Stephany Flores Ramirez
By Sara Hammel

Monday March 07, 2011 06:05 PM EST

Stephany Flores Ramirez and Joran van der Sloot

Splash News Online; AP
Facebook Twitter E-mail

Joran van der Sloot will plead guilty to killing 21-year-old Stephany Flores Ramirez in Peru last May, but will argue temporary insanity, according to reports.

The Dutchman, 23, will try for a reduced sentence using the "violent emotion" defense, his lawyer, Maximo Altez, told The Associated Press.

The lawyer argues that Van der Sloot killed Ramirez on May 30 after becoming enraged when he realized she had looked at his laptop and learned of his connection to missing American teen Natalee Holloway, who disappeared from the island of Aruba in 2005.

Ramirez, a Peruvian business student, was found bludgeoned to death in a Lima hotel room. Van der Sloot stands accused of first-degree murder – in Peru that means a 15- to 35-year sentence if convicted. But if his insanity defense holds up, Van der Sloot could serve only 20 months of a 3-5-year sentence, Altez told the AP.

 ::snipping2::

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Wait, what about him bringing back coffee after she was dead?  He looked pretty calm then and when he looked right into the camera.  I didn't see any passion, only cold calculated cruelty.  Who looks that calm after a murder?  One who has done it before.  It started with the dog...or was there other cruel acts with animals?  What did the dog do, look at his laptop?

We saw him on the video from the hallway--remember SODDI?  Passion.  Didn't see that,did anyone else?   The last thing you would get when you were all shook up is coffee.  You would need a relaxer, not a stimulant.

EPIC FAIL



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 08, 2011, 04:09:24 AM
For me...the best thing that happens to urine is that he lives a life behind bars for a very long time.......before he lives a life in Hell for eternity......
At this point, six years later...we know what he did to Natalee and now Stephany...
Justice is playing out for both......and for paulass...anita...the pimps.....coverup crew.....persistence....I can live with that.....

I don't understand why Anita would want him free.  He almost killed his brother, can't she see he is still capable of that?  Does she want to sacrifice one son and save another?  I also believe he is capable of ending her life when she says, "No."   Why sacrifice your family to save one who is capable of killing his own family?  Look at what he admits doing when he is 'passionate.'  There is no one more capable of getting a brother more riled up than his own brother or mother.  Does she think she will get him committed, fat chance, he got away last time and will get away the next.  Anita, you are no match for him.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 08, 2011, 04:14:11 AM
Klaas, is this the same one you posted?  If it is I missed the shirt.  Don't ya know Dolfi appreciates the advertisement!
 
::MonkeyNoNo::


http://www.coolaruba.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1736854

Carnival 57th @ Oranjestad 6Mrt 2011 Part1 By REX

(http://www.coolaruba.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1736856&g2_serialNumber=3)

Why have a hairy thing on your face that looks like pubes?

 ::MonkeyEek::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 08, 2011, 05:09:58 AM
So Joran's attorney is admitting that Joran killed Stephany, his argument is that he claims it was a crime of passion and not intentional.  So he killed Stephany in a fit of rage.  Maybe she said NO like Natalee did.

(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/joran.jpg)


Don't you just hate it when you get a fit of rage so bad...

You go out and calmly pick up a couple of cups of coffee?

Or try to stuff a dead body in a suit case?

Or change a dead person's outfit?

Or study your local high tide charts?

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Joran is so over. (and so pathetic)

Pathetic, pathologic(al), pathogenic....

pathological--being such to a degree that is extreme, excessive, or markedly abnormal.

pathogenic--Causing disease or capable of doing it.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 08, 2011, 05:29:51 AM
I would think that the temporary insanity thing just will not fly. This was premeditated. There is a 1 in 365 chance that Joran accidentally murdered a young girl on the same date he murdered Natalee. There is a 1 in 1,825 chance he accidentally murdered again on the 5th anniversary of murdering Natalee.

Those odds, which are fact, almost prove premeditation IMO.

When those odds are compiled with his cool attempt, caught on video, to cover his arse and then calmly stroll away to flee to another country, the temporary insanity claim becomes laughable.

I believe that both Stephany and Natalee died at Joran's hands while he raged. I believe that he despises Natalee and that his hatred for Beth goes to the bone. I think he's once again scheming, and has concocted a story where he was such a victim to the notoriety that Natalee's case brought upon his poor innocent self, that he arrived at a breaking point when he saw Stephany discover his connection to Natalee. It's Beth's fault for keeping it so public. She has Stephany's blood on her hands. (barf)

He shouldn't get by with this. Anybody with the sense God gave a jackass can see through it. It's vintage Joran, IMO. Put him in general population, pay the inmates to get information as to Natalee's location with the threat to him that if the info doesn't pan out, they'll off him. When she's returned home, then I hope they kill him slowly and painfully enough to give him every opportunity to sincerely seek forgiveness. God has that ability. I'm sorry, I just don't.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: SuzieQ on March 08, 2011, 12:27:21 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41955684/ns/world_news-americas/

 ::snipping2::

Altez said he filed papers three weeks ago informing prosecutors of his intent to argue that Van der Sloot became enraged and killed the 21-year-old Peruvian business student last May 30 because she had learned of his relation to Holloway by looking in his laptop.

..The 23-year-old Dutchman is accused of first-degree murder, which carries a 15- to 35-year sentence on conviction.

The "violent emotion" plea is typically used in Peru for crimes of passion where a spouse, for example, is surprised in the act of adultery
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 08, 2011, 12:50:03 PM
http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/joran-van-der-sloot-and-natalee-holloway/ (http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/joran-van-der-sloot-and-natalee-holloway/)

Joran van der Sloot and Natalee Holloway

Greta Van Susteren | March 7, 2011 9:54 PM

Before any of you "hit the roof" because Joran may get a light sentence for murder in Peru and be out soon....think about this: he faces charges in the USA for defrauding Beth Holloway and the USA can put an international detainer on him and thus Peru will release Joran to FBI when he finishes his time in Peru. He will then end up in a USA prison....so as deplorable as it is that the Flores woman's killer gets off easy, there is more justice coming for Joran.




It's the first time there has been ANY justice for Joran. I'm wondering how Stephany's parents are feeling about this.

CBB

If there is no judicial corruption ... I am assuming that the Peruvian judge will not agree to this temporary insanity plea.  Think about the confession.  Think about the evidence.

Janet

+++++

Attorneys for the families of Stephanie and Natalee

Lawyer: Van der Sloot to plead temporary insanity
Published March 07, 2011


<snipped>

The lawyer for the victim’s family called the proposed plea absurd, saying that given all the factors of the case, Van der Sloot deserved to spend a minimum of 25 years in prison.

<snipped>

An attorney for Holloway’s mother, Beth Twitty, said she considered the planned plea “outrageous.” Twitty knows the Flores family will never accept it and she plans to “make whatever noise she has to” to make sure it doesn’t happen, the lawyer, John Kelly, added.

“He’s a very slippery, smart criminal,” Kelly said of Van der Sloot, adding that any suggestion he “flipped out for a moment” in killing Flores was mocked by the meticulous calculation of his attempt to cover up the crime and his escape.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/07/lawyer-van-der-sloot-plead-temporary-insanity/#ixzz1FxilTDkR


The Big "IF"

Lawyer: Van der Sloot to plead temporary insanity
Published March 07, 2011


LIMA, Peru – Joran van der Sloot plans to plead guilty to killing a young Peruvian woman he met gambling but will argue temporary insanity in a bid to significantly shorten his sentence, his defense lawyer said Monday.

Van der Sloot, the key suspect in the 2005 disappearance of U.S. teenager Natalee Holloway on the Caribbean island of Aruba, will use a “violent emotion” defense in the slaying of Stephany Flores, attorney Maximo Altez told The Associated Press.

<snipped>

If it were to be accepted by a trial judge, Van der Sloot would be sentenced to 3 to 5 years, and Altez said his client could be freed in 20 months.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/07/lawyer-van-der-sloot-plead-temporary-insanity/#ixzz1FxilTDkR


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 08, 2011, 01:00:34 PM
When other Stephanys and Natalees are considered ... this time bomb named Joran van der Sloot should NEVER be allowed his freedom.

Natalee Holloway's stepfather knew it was just a matter of time.  If only the Aruban justice system had prevailed ... a young lady named Stephany would be following her dreams.

Janet

++++++

A Time Bomb

NANCY GRACE
Aired February 15, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET


JUG TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY`S STEPFATHER:  ... I`ll tell you what really made me sick today to be honest with you is to see his U.S. attorney, Joe Tacopina, whoever, who has been kind of hiding for the last week because he didn`t know what was going to happen all of a sudden come on and he`s all over the TV now. And he is just saying, you know, with a smirk on his face, which just it makes me sick ... I told you so, nothing was going to happen. When he knows Joran is a time bomb just waiting to blow up.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0802/15/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Kermit on March 08, 2011, 01:52:30 PM
LEADING UP TO STEPHANY FLORES MURDER - JORAN WAS ENJOYING THE EASY LIFE - PLANNING HIS NEXT VICTIM'S

(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2474/joranarubamoombabeach2.jpg)
DATE:MARCH 18, 2010 – Joran van der Sloot at Moomba's, smoking a cigarette.


(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/2222/vanaccident24ora.jpg)
April 5, 2010 Joran van der Sloot at accident in Lorenzo van Rijn van in Aruba. Lorenzo van Rijn said to be the step-brother of Joran.


April 25, 2010 - playing Bingo with Mom, Valentijn and others for ISA



(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7388/joranjaapcry1.gif)
THE MANY FACES OF JORAN AS HE CONFESSES TO JAAP THAT NATALEE FELL OFF A BALCONY AND DIED.


STING OPERATION - MAY 10, 2010



MAY 12 - MAY 13, 2010 JORAN NOW WITH 10,000.00 CASH IN HIS POCKET AND 15,000.00 IN HIS BANK ACCOUNT - ADDS LOTS OF FRIENDS
TO HIS FACEBOOK


(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4093/may12may13may6joranfbpa.jpg)


(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/8435/joranpoststojaimecarras.jpg)




MAY 21, 2010 - IFA HAPPY HOUR (IF ANITA IS WORRIED THAT JORAN LEFT WITHOUT CHECKING INTO A PSYCHIARTIC HOSPITAL
......THEN SHE WAS PARTYING IT UP AND DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE WORRIED).


(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/ANITAifahappyhourwasabi.jpg)


(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/anitamay23rdhappyhourIFAwasabi.jpg)


(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4598/may2april27joranfb.jpg)




AFTER EXTORTION OF MONEY FROM BETH HOLLOWAY JORAN GOES TO PERU AND MURDERS, is on the run,
changes his hair color - deliberate and knowledge of guilt!


MAY 30, 2010 - Stephany murdered by Joran
 

Under U.S. federal and state laws, extortion carries up to a 20-year prison sentence.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: I dont feel tardy on March 08, 2011, 02:41:58 PM
This ia just an attempt by Joran's attorney to get him off with a lesser sentence I highly doubt this will fly with the trial judge in Peru and the fact that Joran murdered an innocent young well to do peruvian girl. I hope he gets the max in Peru for this murder AND then the US can have him!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 08, 2011, 03:10:29 PM
http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/28654-aki-dos-luna-lo-cuminsa-proceso-contra-joran-van-der-sloot-na-lima.html

Papiamentu translation:

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b.175.125.16777215.0...images.stories.news.2011.maart.mart08.joranvdsloot.jpg)

here two month will cuminsa proceso contra joran van der sloot at lima

tuesday, 08 march 2011 11:14

the proceso hudicial contra joran van der sloot, acusa at peru because; sospechoso of asesinato of the young of 21 year, stephany flores. the proceso penal in corte will cuminsa here two month. this is thing his advocate, maximo altez is sperando. one vocero of corte at lima also have the same expectativa, but the date exact, according the, have cu wordo stipula still. the veredicto will cuminsa more or less after of one month, after cu the proceso did take luga. have one castigo of 30 year of cel colga on cabes of van der sloot, if is stay at husticia peruvian.

 ::snipping2::

comentarionan (1) mustra/kita comentarionan come across...

scirbi for dog, march 08, 2011

lage close at peru, the la danja aruba his name internacional mind. +0 come across


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 08, 2011, 03:54:55 PM

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/03/08/joran-expert-van-der-sloot-free-in-5-years-so-what/?ncid=webmail


Expert: Van der Sloot Free in 5 Years? 'So What?'


Joran van der Sloot's new legal strategy has people around the globe angry over the possibility that the Dutch native could be freed in less than five years in the death of a Peruvian woman. But what is being viewed as an insult to justice won't necessarily ensure his early release, an international defense expert says.

"We want Peru to accept a plea," said Michael Griffith, senior partner at the International Legal Defense Counsel. "So what if he gets a lesser sentence? That would be the best thing for everyone involved."

Griffith said that van der Sloot's willingness to make a plea might get him out of a Peruvian prison sooner than expected -- prosecutors says there is sufficient evidence to keep him jailed until 2040 -- but that there is one thing the Dutchman is not considering, and that's Natalee Holloway. ::snipping2::

 ::snipping2::"Once he is released, he is going to be extradited on the outstanding warrant in Alabama for his alleged extortion in the Natalee Holloway case," said Griffith, whose most renowned case, involving an American incarcerated in a Turkish prison, was the basis for the film and book "Midnight Express."

Holloway's body has never been found, and van der Sloot has not been charged in her disappearance. He was, however, indicted in the U.S. on charges that he extorted $25,000 from the young woman's parents. Prosecutors said that in exchange for the money, he promised to reveal how Holloway died and the location of her body.

Van der Sloot would probably face a five- to 10-year sentence for the alleged extortion, but it is Holloway's alleged murder that could keep him behind bars for life in the United States, Griffith said. ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 08, 2011, 04:20:47 PM
A few minutes ago Fox News reported that it's possible that if this temporary insanity thing were to fly, and he served out that sentence, Joran could be extradicted here and eventually actually face charges for murdering Natalee. I'm sorry, I didn't catch it all, but feel sure that they will repeat the coverage. They always do.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 08, 2011, 04:22:16 PM
I believe that both the death of Natalee Holloway and Stephany Flores were intentional but ... not planned.

Joran van der Sloot has had a lifetime of acting  outside of legal and moral boundaries without having to consider the consequences.

The difference in the Stephany Flores case is that there was no father to use his influencial connections to cover up Joran's wrongdoing.

Nevertheless ... somehow I believe that Paulus' influential connections are working behind the scenes in cooperation with the Peruvian Justice System in regards to this "temporary insanity" plea.

Think about it.  Those within the Dutch/Aruban administrations who were behind the cover up in the Natalee Holloway case are now beholding to Joran.  If protection from the full consequences encompassing the murder of Stephany Flores is not forthcoming ... Joran has the ability to name names and expose those "higher ups" who prevented justice from prevailing for an 18 year old American citizen who went missing on the Island of Aruba in 2005.

A little research will reveal that the Peruvian justice system and bribery are one ... are one from the bribing a policeman to avoid a traffic infraction up to the bribing of a judge to influence a ruling ... positive or negative ... in a criminal case.

Janet


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 08, 2011, 04:53:58 PM
I want Joran to face the full consequences in regards to the murder of Natalee Holloway ... the extortion of Beth Holloway and ... the murder of Stephany Flores.  Compromise is not an option!

When all is said and done ... I have a sinking feeling if that Peruvian justice for Stephany may not prevail.  I KNOW that Aruban/Dutch justice will NEVER prevail for Natalee Holloway.  Then there American justice in regards to extortion charges.  I could be wrong but ... I have my doubts.

 ::MonkeyTears::

Janet

+++++


JORAN'S DEFENCE?

Offered

Holloway family extortion plot: 'Why not?'
NBC News and news services
updated 9/6/2010 6:49:49 AM ET


"I wanted to get back at Natalee's family — her parents have been making my life tough for five years," the De Telegraaf newspaper quoted Joran Van der Sloot as saying in an interview published Monday.

"When they offered to pay for the girl's location, I thought: 'Why not?'" he added, according to the newspaper.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39023617/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts


To Convince

Holloway attorney details van der Sloot sting
John Q. Kelly set up suspect, who said he would show Holloway’s remains
By Mike Celizic
TODAYshow.com contributor
updated 6/11/2010 12:58:39 PM ET


<snipped>

In March, van der Sloot reached out to Kelly, demanding $250,000 from Holloway’s mother, Beth Holloway Twitty, in exchange for leading Kelly to the teenager’s remains, Kelly told TODAY.

Kelly said that when van der Sloot contacted him, he did not think he was going to learn the truth. His feelings, he said, were, “skepticism, caution, assuming everything he was going to tell me was false — but I had to understandably think that it might be true, also; so approach it very carefully and keep communicating.”

Kelly agreed to meet van der Sloot alone and brought no money — angering the suspect. Kelly then called the FBI to set up a sting, telling TODAY it only took $100 to convince van der Sloot to start talking with him again.

<snipped>

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/37635627


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 08, 2011, 05:25:36 PM

Ricardo Flores

'Joran lives like a king in jail.'

'It is shameful what happens in prisons. I think the INPE has to give the same treatment to all criminals.'


November 10, 2010

http://www.generaccion.com/noticia/83737/familia-flores-aseguran-que-joran-van-der-sloot-vive-como-rey



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 08, 2011, 05:41:36 PM
Reminder of what we are waiting on in the Kalpoe vs. Dr. Phil case.  I look every day for new docs and will thru April or until the trial begins:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5137/5510628860_77f7eb7932_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 08, 2011, 05:44:26 PM
Thanks Klaas.

Janet


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 08, 2011, 05:53:08 PM
Reminder of what we are waiting on in the Kalpoe vs. Dr. Phil case.  I look every day for new docs and will thru April or until the trial begins:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5137/5510628860_77f7eb7932_b.jpg)

Thanks Klaas!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 08, 2011, 09:52:53 PM
http://amigoenieuws.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4370:vermoedelijk-tweede-sterfgeval-dengue&catid=108:artikelen-aruba&Itemid=199

Google translation:

Presumably the second dengue death

Tuesday, 08 March 2011 5:54 p.m.

ORANGE CITY - Horacio Oduber Hospital in the (HOH), this weekend, a deceased man suspected of dengue. That have two reliable sources around the victim this morning Amigoe confirmed. The man, about thirty, is buried Saturday.

According to one source, the man just hours before his death recorded in the Intensive Care Unit, after one week before the first symptoms of dengue had been given (fever and vomiting). Then lay the complaints are treatable, but this weekend showed that the man had received internal bleeding. Medical aid was to no avail. The other source is the death of a man and suggests that dengue is based, but would not comment on the disease process.

If laboratory tests show that the deceased man was indeed due to dengue, he is the first dengue death this year and the second dengue death since the start of the rainy season. Health Department confirmed in mid-December 2010 requested that a patient was deceased with dengue symptoms were hospitalized. When the government first wanted to await results of blood tests (this research was done in the Netherlands, ed) before actually one dengue death could begin. Former Director Derek-ian Blok was told that the government only after any confirmation would determine whether the controls on the breeding grounds should be strengthened or that coping with patients to step up. The confirmation of the first dengue death was followed in early February.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 08, 2011, 09:56:12 PM
http://amigoenieuws.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4373:recordaantal-aanhoudingen-carnaval&catid=151:artikel-headline-aruba&Itemid=200

Google translation:

(http://amigoenieuws.com/images/stories/08-03-2011/504501.jpg)

Record Number of detentions carnival '

Tuesday, 08 March 2011 5:58 p.m.

ORANGE CITY - The carnival last weekend had as many as 86 arrests. 55 of them were in Orange City. It said police spokesman Papito Comenencia. He feels this number is greater than in previous years.

San Nicolas was on Saturday morning during Jouvert Morning fifteen arrests. Later that afternoon during the big parade in San Nicolas were there once in sixteen arrests. A day later in Oranjestad things were much wilder far. 55 arrests were made and a large quantity of arms was nabbed. 49 of the 55 arrests in Orange City were the result of the tit-for-tat policy of the police. "It was about public drunkenness, harassment and fights. Both men and women were arrested, mostly young people, "said Comenencia. He indicates that this year there was hardly any gang-related violence during the carnival parades.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 09, 2011, 12:54:14 AM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Grad00o9.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanyFlores_takentoosoon-1.jpg)

Justice for Natalee and Stephany!


 ::MonkeyJustice::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on March 09, 2011, 12:23:42 PM
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/41987121#41987121
TODAY: Van der Sloot plans insanity plea in Peru murder


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 09, 2011, 02:42:36 PM
http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/van-der-sloot%E2%80%99s-lawyer-renews-call-end-interview-ban

Van der Sloot’s lawyer renews call for end to interview ban

Published on 9 March 2011 - 7:47pm

Joran van der Sloot’s lawyer has again demanded journalists be granted access to his client. Mr Máximo Altez told Radio Netherlands Worldwide he has filed a complaint against the Peruvian judiciary for violating the Dutch murder suspect’s constitutional rights.

Dutch journalists have repeatedly been refused opportunities to speak to Van der Sloot. RNW was not allowed to interview the 23-year-old from his cell despite his consent to speak with the Latin American section.

According to Mr Altez, it is very common for prisoners to talk to the press from their cells. He says the restrictions on Van der Sloot are an unjust infringement to his right to information and freedom of expression.

Since he was imprisoned at Miguel Castro Castro prison in Lima, Peru, Van der Sloot has only been interviewed by de Telegraaf newspaper.
 ::snipping2::


They must be getting desperate for more funding.   ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 09, 2011, 03:01:29 PM
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/41987121#41987121
TODAY: Van der Sloot plans insanity plea in Peru murder
::snipping2::


Altez through translator:

"He is a man who has been under a lot of pressure for five years, if there's anyone to blame; it is the circumstances."

 ::snipping2::


Prosecutors say he had a motive; to steal Stephany's cash.  And they say he targeted her in the casino where he played poker with her and then invited her to play online in his room.  He later left police say with Stephany's money and credit cards.
 ::snipping2::


Jail psychologists reported that presents traits of an antisocial personality and is indifferent to the well being of others; but they concluded is sane.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 09, 2011, 03:20:38 PM
I would rather Joran spend 30 years in a Peruvian "midnight" lockup convicted of the murder of Stephany Flores rather than an American facility convicted of extortion charges.

Somehow ... justice for Natalee and Stephany seems so elusive.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet

+++++++

U.S. still waiting for van der Sloot
Last Update: 7:46 am


<snipped>

Although the Flores family is outraged by the prospect Stephany's death could result in such a short prison sentence, it's not like van der Sloot would have smooth sailing after serving his time.

He's still facing extradition on a U.S. indictment for wire fraud and extortion.  The FBI says he defrauded the Holloway family by accepting money for information about Natalee's fate but never delivering the promised information.

A Justice Department spokesperson here in Birmingham says the U.S. Attorney's office is keeping a close eye on van der Sloot's Peruvian legal maneuvers and are waiting their turn.

Peggy Sanford responded by e-mail to CBS42:  “This office has always had the intention of pursuing its case against Joran van der Sloot. If the reported plea proposal were to be accepted in Peru, then we might have that opportunity sooner, rather than later.”

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/U-S-still-waiting-for-van-der-Sloot/q6jZ7tQD10ilUeYSf5g2bg.cspx



November 19, 2008:

BETH HOLLOWAY: And Greta, I was just wanting to say that, you know, like I said, it's been a long time, but it's never too late for justice. And I'd be good with a "Midnight Express" prison anywhere for Joran.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454527,00.html




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 09, 2011, 03:32:18 PM
 ::MonkeyGavel::

Lawyer: Van der Sloot to plead temporary insanity
Published March 07, 2011


<snipped>

An attorney for Holloway’s mother, Beth Twitty, said she considered the planned plea “outrageous.” Twitty knows the Flores family will never accept it and she plans to “make whatever noise she has to” to make sure it doesn’t happen, the lawyer, John Kelly, added.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/07/lawyer-van-der-sloot-plead-temporary-insanity/#ixzz1FxilTDkR



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 09, 2011, 05:39:08 PM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/28715-famia-ta-busca-paradero-di-nan-yui-keisha.html

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1...images.stories.news.2011.maart.mart09.keisha.jpg)

Papiamentu translation:

family is busca paradero of they yui keisha

wednesday, 09 march 2011 16:09

informe cu we of 24ora.com owing to achieve today tardi is cu one child muher conoci below ; the name of lakeisha germain (keisha) of 16 year of edad is perdi. the la leave yesterday morning for of cas for 6or for go school but not owing to return! the was have dress polo of colegio aruban, jeans, braided extended hair, y the was have his laptop. keisha owing to wordo see ultimo trip day 8 of march after of 1 y half of afternoon y owing to miss his ultimo lesson uur at colegio aruban y never more owing to go back cas. 

::snipping2::

In the rest of the article...If I understand correctly, Keisha has called home but seemed to be under the influence of drugs and did not know, or could not tell her mother where she is.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 09, 2011, 06:10:38 PM
Keisha Jermin

Facebook Page

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000128773655


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on March 09, 2011, 06:12:40 PM
http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/van-der-sloot%E2%80%99s-lawyer-renews-call-end-interview-ban

Van der Sloot’s lawyer renews call for end to interview ban

Published on 9 March 2011 - 7:47pm

Joran van der Sloot’s lawyer has again demanded journalists be granted access to his client. Mr Máximo Altez told Radio Netherlands Worldwide he has filed a complaint against the Peruvian judiciary for violating the Dutch murder suspect’s constitutional rights.

Dutch journalists have repeatedly been refused opportunities to speak to Van der Sloot. RNW was not allowed to interview the 23-year-old from his cell despite his consent to speak with the Latin American section.

According to Mr Altez, it is very common for prisoners to talk to the press from their cells. He says the restrictions on Van der Sloot are an unjust infringement to his right to information and freedom of expression.

Since he was imprisoned at Miguel Castro Castro prison in Lima, Peru, Van der Sloot has only been interviewed by de Telegraaf newspaper.
 ::snipping2::


They must be getting desperate for more funding.   ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



Maybe he shouldn't have complained so much when Peter R. DeVries went to Peru.  They have probably really cracked down on interviews.  ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on March 09, 2011, 06:14:32 PM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/28715-famia-ta-busca-paradero-di-nan-yui-keisha.html

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1...images.stories.news.2011.maart.mart09.keisha.jpg)

Papiamentu translation:

family is busca paradero of they yui keisha

wednesday, 09 march 2011 16:09

informe cu we of 24ora.com owing to achieve today tardi is cu one child muher conoci below ; the name of lakeisha germain (keisha) of 16 year of edad is perdi. the la leave yesterday morning for of cas for 6or for go school but not owing to return! the was have dress polo of colegio aruban, jeans, braided extended hair, y the was have his laptop. keisha owing to wordo see ultimo trip day 8 of march after of 1 y half of afternoon y owing to miss his ultimo lesson uur at colegio aruban y never more owing to go back cas. 

::snipping2::

In the rest of the article...If I understand correctly, Keisha has called home but seemed to be under the influence of drugs and did not know, or could not tell her mother where she is.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Prayers...


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 09, 2011, 06:23:02 PM
http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/van-der-sloot%E2%80%99s-lawyer-renews-call-end-interview-ban

Van der Sloot’s lawyer renews call for end to interview ban

Published on 9 March 2011 - 7:47pm

Joran van der Sloot’s lawyer has again demanded journalists be granted access to his client. Mr Máximo Altez told Radio Netherlands Worldwide he has filed a complaint against the Peruvian judiciary for violating the Dutch murder suspect’s constitutional rights.

Dutch journalists have repeatedly been refused opportunities to speak to Van der Sloot. RNW was not allowed to interview the 23-year-old from his cell despite his consent to speak with the Latin American section.

According to Mr Altez, it is very common for prisoners to talk to the press from their cells. He says the restrictions on Van der Sloot are an unjust infringement to his right to information and freedom of expression.

Since he was imprisoned at Miguel Castro Castro prison in Lima, Peru, Van der Sloot has only been interviewed by de Telegraaf newspaper.
 ::snipping2::


They must be getting desperate for more funding.   ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



Maybe he shouldn't have complained so much when Peter R. DeVries went to Peru.  They have probably really cracked down on interviews.  ::monkeywine2::

Buckeye

Could it be that the "powers that be" in Aruba/Holland have made a request to Peruvian "powers that be" not to allow Joran to be interviewed?  It appears that every time this guy opens his mouth somebody who was involved in the Aruban cover up is implicated ... the Aruban cover up that has prevented justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway for almost six years.

Janet

++++

Police Officers/Paulus van der Sloot

Joran van der Sloot Goes 'On the Record' with New Natalee Holloway Story
Tuesday, November 25, 2008


GRETA VAN SUSTEREN: And I will. I mean, you told me, one of the things you told me - this is - and what I want to do is use this with leverage is that (NAME DELETED) was paid off, and another police officer was paid off by your father.

JORAN VAN DER SLOOT: You know something, Greta, though, I don't really want to do this, actually. I don't. This is not actually what we agreed on.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457144,00.html


Higher Powers

Disposed - Patrick Vander Eem


PATRICK: Where the f--- is she Joran?
JORAN: I don’t know precisely.
PATRICK: How is it that you don’t know?
JORAN: Yea—
PATRICK: Higher power?
JORAN: Higher power—powers


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 09, 2011, 06:24:13 PM
They may not be related, but Keisha Jermin's disappearance reminds me of the young girl Isabela Bennett a few months ago that was missing for days and then found wandering along the road. 

http://www.diario.aw/2010/11/ban-yuda-busca-isabella/

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9013.msg1269325#msg1269325

After she was returned nothing much was said about it, but I do believe she was taken and kept somewhere for several days.  If I understood from the articles at the time, I don't think she could remember much of what happened during that time.

Makes me wonder what's going on...and I don't like what I'm thinking may be happening.  I hope I'm wrong.


 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 09, 2011, 06:25:59 PM
http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/van-der-sloot%E2%80%99s-lawyer-renews-call-end-interview-ban

Van der Sloot’s lawyer renews call for end to interview ban

Published on 9 March 2011 - 7:47pm

Joran van der Sloot’s lawyer has again demanded journalists be granted access to his client. Mr Máximo Altez told Radio Netherlands Worldwide he has filed a complaint against the Peruvian judiciary for violating the Dutch murder suspect’s constitutional rights.

Dutch journalists have repeatedly been refused opportunities to speak to Van der Sloot. RNW was not allowed to interview the 23-year-old from his cell despite his consent to speak with the Latin American section.

According to Mr Altez, it is very common for prisoners to talk to the press from their cells. He says the restrictions on Van der Sloot are an unjust infringement to his right to information and freedom of expression.

Since he was imprisoned at Miguel Castro Castro prison in Lima, Peru, Van der Sloot has only been interviewed by de Telegraaf newspaper.
 ::snipping2::


They must be getting desperate for more funding.   ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



Maybe he shouldn't have complained so much when Peter R. DeVries went to Peru.  They have probably really cracked down on interviews.  ::monkeywine2::

Or maybe it had something to do with that million dollar price tag he had on an interview.

I can hope.   :smt091


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 09, 2011, 06:47:48 PM
http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/van-der-sloot%E2%80%99s-lawyer-renews-call-end-interview-ban

Van der Sloot’s lawyer renews call for end to interview ban

Published on 9 March 2011 - 7:47pm

Joran van der Sloot’s lawyer has again demanded journalists be granted access to his client. Mr Máximo Altez told Radio Netherlands Worldwide he has filed a complaint against the Peruvian judiciary for violating the Dutch murder suspect’s constitutional rights.

Dutch journalists have repeatedly been refused opportunities to speak to Van der Sloot. RNW was not allowed to interview the 23-year-old from his cell despite his consent to speak with the Latin American section.

According to Mr Altez, it is very common for prisoners to talk to the press from their cells. He says the restrictions on Van der Sloot are an unjust infringement to his right to information and freedom of expression.

Since he was imprisoned at Miguel Castro Castro prison in Lima, Peru, Van der Sloot has only been interviewed by de Telegraaf newspaper.
 ::snipping2::


They must be getting desperate for more funding.   ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



Maybe he shouldn't have complained so much when Peter R. DeVries went to Peru.  They have probably really cracked down on interviews.  ::monkeywine2::

Agree--more funds needed.  Sometimes it doesn't pay to complain.  ::monkeywine2::   ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 09, 2011, 07:21:27 PM
They may not be related, but Keisha Jermin's disappearance reminds me of the young girl Isabela Bennett a few months ago that was missing for days and then found wandering along the road. 

http://www.diario.aw/2010/11/ban-yuda-busca-isabella/

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9013.msg1269325#msg1269325

After she was returned nothing much was said about it, but I do believe she was taken and kept somewhere for several days.  If I understood from the articles at the time, I don't think she could remember much of what happened during that time.

Makes me wonder what's going on...and I don't like what I'm thinking may be happening.  I hope I'm wrong.


 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Did you see this comment?

November 25, 2010 at 1:25 pm
JOSE VROLIJK

ESAKI TA UN DI E TANTISIMO CASONAN DI SATANISMO NA ARUBA E MUCHA TA WORDO USA PA UN RITUAL SATANICO AKI NA ARUBA. ARUBA KI DIA BO WOWO LO HABRI ?!?!?!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 09, 2011, 07:48:13 PM
They may not be related, but Keisha Jermin's disappearance reminds me of the young girl Isabela Bennett a few months ago that was missing for days and then found wandering along the road. 

http://www.diario.aw/2010/11/ban-yuda-busca-isabella/

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9013.msg1269325#msg1269325

After she was returned nothing much was said about it, but I do believe she was taken and kept somewhere for several days.  If I understood from the articles at the time, I don't think she could remember much of what happened during that time.

Makes me wonder what's going on...and I don't like what I'm thinking may be happening.  I hope I'm wrong.


 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Did you see this comment?

November 25, 2010 at 1:25 pm
JOSE VROLIJK

ESAKI TA UN DI E TANTISIMO CASONAN DI SATANISMO NA ARUBA E MUCHA TA WORDO USA PA UN RITUAL SATANICO AKI NA ARUBA. ARUBA KI DIA BO WOWO LO HABRI ?!?!?!


Yes, I remember that!   ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 09, 2011, 09:46:44 PM
Never know what you might see on Facebook.   ::MonkeyRoll::

www.facebook.com

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Misc%20News%2026%20122010/12282010_ArubaTodayFrontPagea.jpg)

What is amired?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Good thing, bad thing, drunk editor in chief thing?   :smt030
 ::bananadance::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 09, 2011, 09:55:50 PM
Never know what you might see on Facebook.   ::MonkeyRoll::

www.facebook.com

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Misc%20News%2026%20122010/12282010_ArubaTodayFrontPagea.jpg)

What is amired?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Good thing, bad thing, drunk editor in chief thing?   :smt030
 ::bananadance::


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 09, 2011, 10:02:21 PM
I'd print it out and send it to Obama, but she probably sent him one hot off the press!   ::MonkeyDevil::

Don't you know he was impressed!    ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 09, 2011, 10:46:17 PM
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/03/exclusive-joran-van-der-sloots-attorney-confident-he-can-prove-temporary-insanity

EXCLUSIVE: Joran Van Der Sloot's Attorney 'Confident' He Can Prove Temporary Insanity

Posted on Mar 09, 2011 @ 05:00AM   

Joran van der Sloot's lawyer Maximo Altez Navarro has exclusively told RadarOnline.com: "I'm confident that we can win our temporary insanity plea."

 ::snipping2::

Van der Sloot remains the key suspect in the 2005 disappearance of Holloway on the Caribbean island of Aruba.

But if Navarro's plan doesn't work then the 24-year-old Dutchman could face spending the rest of his life behind bars.

Navarro said: "We are confident that we can prove 'temporary insanity' and I am going to fight to make this happen for Joran.

"If we are successful, he will serve between 3-5 years in prison but will get out earlier if there are no problems.

"Both Joran and his mother agree with my plan, and we believe this is the best option for him.

 ::snipping2::

A lawyer for Flores' family called the proposed plea "absurd," saying that given all the factors of the case, van der Sloot deserved to spend a minimum of 25 years in prison.

"The manner in which the suspect killed Stephany evidenced disproportionate violence," attorney Edward Alvarez said.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 09, 2011, 10:55:04 PM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/28715-famia-ta-busca-paradero-di-nan-yui-keisha.html

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1...images.stories.news.2011.maart.mart09.keisha.jpg)

Papiamentu translation:

family is busca paradero of they yui keisha

wednesday, 09 march 2011 16:09

informe cu we of 24ora.com owing to achieve today tardi is cu one child muher conoci below ; the name of lakeisha germain (keisha) of 16 year of edad is perdi. the la leave yesterday morning for of cas for 6or for go school but not owing to return! the was have dress polo of colegio aruban, jeans, braided extended hair, y the was have his laptop. keisha owing to wordo see ultimo trip day 8 of march after of 1 y half of afternoon y owing to miss his ultimo lesson uur at colegio aruban y never more owing to go back cas. 

::snipping2::

In the rest of the article...If I understand correctly, Keisha has called home but seemed to be under the influence of drugs and did not know, or could not tell her mother where she is.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


I'd read on facebook a little while ago that she'd been found, and now 24ora is reporting that too.  Not any more information so far on where she's been. 

I'm glad she's home.

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/28715-famia-ta-busca-paradero-di-nan-yui-keisha.html

Papiamentu translation:

hobencita of 16 year cu was perdi owing to wordo achieve

wednesday, 09 march 2011 16:09

informe cu we of 24ora.com owing to achieve today tardi is cu one child muher conoci below ; the name of lakeisha germain (keisha) of 16 year of edad is perdi. update: the hobencita of colegio aruban cu owing to leave for of cas one day happen for bay scol y not owing to go back cas owing to wordo achieve. at the momentonan here not have mucho claridad where the child was but mature is cu 24ora.com owing to confirma cu the paradero of the child owing to become conoci diaranson night. the la leave yesterday morning for of cas for 6or for go school but not owing to return! the was have dress polo of colegio aruban, jeans, braided extended hair, y the was have his laptop. 

::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 09, 2011, 11:47:20 PM
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=759158169

Sebastian van der Sloot

(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/187735_759158169_7347006_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on March 09, 2011, 11:57:30 PM
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=759158169

Sebastian van der Sloot

(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/187735_759158169_7347006_n.jpg)
SeaBass IS a soccer player ........... Anita must think he is the "Delicious Sporter part II".  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 10, 2011, 12:04:56 AM
http://www.facebook.com/dvstapele?sk=wall

The music on Dolph's latest short film clip....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bwfm7-uNS4

Hope his mother, Renee has listened closely to that song.

Anita hasn't "liked" it yet.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 10, 2011, 12:07:16 AM
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=759158169

Sebastian van der Sloot

(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/187735_759158169_7347006_n.jpg)
SeaBass IS a soccer player ........... Anita must think he is the "Delicious Sporter part II".  ::MonkeyRoll::

III and IV all rolled into one.   ::MonkeyWink::   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 10, 2011, 12:15:49 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Grad00o9.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanyFlores_takentoosoon-1.jpg)

Justice for Natalee and Stephany!


 ::MonkeyJustice::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: SuzieQ on March 10, 2011, 11:24:45 AM
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-wants-to-talk/gve6TyZOs0-gy7akYCcXoQ.cspx

Van der Sloot wants to talk

Birmingham, Al (CBS42) If you made a list of people who didn't need more media exposure Joran van der Sloot would probably come right after Charlie Sheen.

Not so, according to van der Sloot's Peruvian lawyer, Max Altez.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: SuzieQ on March 10, 2011, 11:28:33 AM
New tweet on Twitter

HLNTV HLN News and Views
Just in: FBI agents going to Peru, granted access to Joran #VanDerSloot's hard drive; will search it for clues in Natalee Holloway death


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 10, 2011, 11:37:37 AM
New tweet on Twitter

HLNTV HLN News and Views
Just in: FBI agents going to Peru, granted access to Joran #VanDerSloot's hard drive; will search it for clues in Natalee Holloway death


Great news!  Thanks!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Blue Moon on March 10, 2011, 11:42:06 AM
New tweet on Twitter

HLNTV HLN News and Views
Just in: FBI agents going to Peru, granted access to Joran #VanDerSloot's hard drive; will search it for clues in Natalee Holloway death


Woooooo Hooooooooo!   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: SuzieQ on March 10, 2011, 11:55:06 AM
They said on HLN that it will happen next week and that reps. from the Flores family will also be there.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 10, 2011, 01:56:21 PM
New tweet on Twitter

HLNTV HLN News and Views
Just in: FBI agents going to Peru, granted access to Joran #VanDerSloot's hard drive; will search it for clues in Natalee Holloway death



Such good news!!   ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 10, 2011, 02:09:51 PM
I'm just so happy to hear that the Peru officials and FBI are working together.   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 10, 2011, 02:15:45 PM
Some new documents filed in the Kalpoe vs. Dr. Phil case.  They aren't available yet but I'll keep checking.  The documents below are all new and should be available in the next couple days.:

03/09/2011 Order (FOR COMMISION TO TAKE OUT OF STATE DEPOSITION )
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

03/09/2011 Ex-Parte Application
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

03/09/2011 Opposition Document
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on March 10, 2011, 02:31:39 PM
New tweet on Twitter

HLNTV HLN News and Views
Just in: FBI agents going to Peru, granted access to Joran #VanDerSloot's hard drive; will search it for clues in Natalee Holloway death



Such good news!!   ::monkeywine2::

I hope that psychopathic murdering egotistical %$?#@ Joran kept vids/photos/etc. on his computer.  I understand there are ways to recover data from a hard drive even if the person thought they deleted or wiped the hard drive. 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 10, 2011, 02:58:12 PM
I am hoping that Peru found something, during their search of the computer,
that warrented calling in the FBI. 

There could be evidence relating to Joran extorting Beth.

I hope it is evidence relating to Natalee.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: TexasTater on March 10, 2011, 02:58:37 PM
New tweet on Twitter

HLNTV HLN News and Views
Just in: FBI agents going to Peru, granted access to Joran #VanDerSloot's hard drive; will search it for clues in Natalee Holloway death


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on March 10, 2011, 03:23:12 PM
New tweet on Twitter

HLNTV HLN News and Views
Just in: FBI agents going to Peru, granted access to Joran #VanDerSloot's hard drive; will search it for clues in Natalee Holloway death

Thanks SuzieQ!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 10, 2011, 05:01:13 PM
FBI traveling to Peru for clues in Natalee Holloway case
March 10, 2011 -- Updated 2007 GMT (0407 HKT)


(CNN) -- FBI agents are traveling to Peru to study a laptop belonging to Joran Van der Sloot -- who was arrested twice in connection with the Natalee Holloway case, but was not charged -- according to a Lima court document.

The Alabama teen disappeared during a high school graduation trip to Aruba in 2005. Van der Sloot was the last person to be seen with Holloway.

A source close to the case told InSession the FBI will be searching for any clues that can help solve the Holloway case.

Van der Sloot also faces federal wire fraud and extortion charges in the United States, where prosecutors say he demanded more than $250,000 from Holloway's family in return for disclosing the location of her body.

The Lima court document says the unnamed FBI agents will meet March 14 with two agents of the Peruvian National Police High Technology Crime Division at the Peruvian National Police Headquarters in Lima.

During the meeting they will have access to the computer's hard drive and will be able to conduct forensic examinations on it.

<snipped>

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/03/10/peru.van.der.sloot/


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 10, 2011, 06:36:14 PM
New tweet on Twitter

HLNTV HLN News and Views
Just in: FBI agents going to Peru, granted access to Joran #VanDerSloot's hard drive; will search it for clues in Natalee Holloway death


YES!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: can on March 10, 2011, 06:46:24 PM
New tweet on Twitter

HLNTV HLN News and Views
Just in: FBI agents going to Peru, granted access to Joran #VanDerSloot's hard drive; will search it for clues in Natalee Holloway death


Thank you!.  Great news!  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 10, 2011, 08:30:01 PM
FBI traveling to Peru for clues in Natalee Holloway case
March 10, 2011 -- Updated 2007 GMT (0407 HKT)


(CNN) -- FBI agents are traveling to Peru to study a laptop belonging to Joran Van der Sloot -- who was arrested twice in connection with the Natalee Holloway case, but was not charged -- according to a Lima court document.

The Alabama teen disappeared during a high school graduation trip to Aruba in 2005. Van der Sloot was the last person to be seen with Holloway.

A source close to the case told InSession the FBI will be searching for any clues that can help solve the Holloway case.

Van der Sloot also faces federal wire fraud and extortion charges in the United States, where prosecutors say he demanded more than $250,000 from Holloway's family in return for disclosing the location of her body.

The Lima court document says the unnamed FBI agents will meet March 14 with two agents of the Peruvian National Police High Technology Crime Division at the Peruvian National Police Headquarters in Lima.

During the meeting they will have access to the computer's hard drive and will be able to conduct forensic examinations on it.

<snipped>

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/03/10/peru.van.der.sloot/

Thank you, Janet.   ::MonkeyGavel:: 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: snoopy on March 10, 2011, 09:22:23 PM
New tweet on Twitter

HLNTV HLN News and Views
Just in: FBI agents going to Peru, granted access to Joran #VanDerSloot's hard drive; will search it for clues in Natalee Holloway death


 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Best news I've heard in a long time.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Frijole on March 10, 2011, 09:40:57 PM
 ::MonkeySlide::

I just happened to check in and I am so glad I did!!!

May this be the progress we have waited for for sooooooooooooo many years.  I hope he's shaking in his cell tonight.  Finally the FBI is involved.  Prayers for the family.  RIP Natalee - we never forgot.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: pinkbanana on March 10, 2011, 10:21:08 PM
New tweet on Twitter

HLNTV HLN News and Views
Just in: FBI agents going to Peru, granted access to Joran #VanDerSloot's hard drive; will search it for clues in Natalee Holloway death


Just read this...THIS IS WONDERFUL!!
 ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::

pb


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2011, 10:29:33 PM
URINE THINKS HE'S A POKER PLAYER

HE GONNA PLAY HIS WAY RIGHT TO AMERICA..

NOTHIN BETTER THAN WATCHING URINE CONITNUE TO SLIP UP

DO YOU FEEL THE NET CLOSING IN ON YA URINE?

ANY OF HIS FAMILY COME TO AMERICA

THEY'RE FREE GAME

YOU TO LEPRECHAUNS


...KEEPTHEFAITH MONKEY'S...

...WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED...


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2011, 10:30:44 PM
ARUBA


::MonkeyTongue::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::


 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 10, 2011, 10:48:33 PM
It just feels right (and long overdue) that finally some reputable law enforcement is again looking into what happened to Natalee. I'm not sure what I expect them to find, but I'm glad they're looking!!!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 10, 2011, 10:52:08 PM
http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/28776-fbi-ta-biaha-pa-peru-pa-pistanan-den-e-caso-di-natalee-holloway.html

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b.175.125.16777215.0...images.stories.news.2011.maart.mart10.jorannatalee.jpg)

Papiamentu translation:

fbi is trip for peru for pistanan in the caso of natalee holloway

thursday, 10 march 2011 20:33

agentenan of fbi is biahando for peru for study one laptop cu is pertenece at joran van der sloot – that owing to wordo aresta two trip provided that conexion cu the caso of natalee holloway, but not owing to wordo condena – of acuerdo cu one documento of corte at lima. the young of alabama owing to disparce during one biahe of graduacion at aruba at 2005. van der sloot is the ultimo person of owing to wordo see together cu holloway. one fountain close of the caso owing to comenta at insession cu fbi will is buscando cualkier pista cu can help resolve the caso of holloway. van der sloot also is enfrentando cargonan of fraude federal y extorcion at merca, caminda fiscalnan is tell cu el’a demanda more cu $250.000 for of the family holloway cu at his file the will divulga the luga of the curpa. the documento of corte peruvian is tell cu agentenan of fbi will reuni day 14 of march cu two agent of police nacional peruvian, high technology crime division at the cuartel general of police nacional at lima. during the meeting they will have acceso at the hard drive of the computer y will conduci revisionnan forensico on dje.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Kermit on March 10, 2011, 10:52:10 PM
It just feels right (and long overdue) that finally some reputable law enforcement is again looking into what happened to Natalee. I'm not sure what I expect them to find, but I'm glad they're looking!!!
::MonkeyCool::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 10, 2011, 10:57:55 PM
http://www.livedash.com/transcript/prime_news/50/HLN/Thursday_March_10_2011/568800/

Prime News
HLN

Aired on Thursday, Mar 10, 2011 (3/10/2011) at 02:00 PM

 ::snipping2::
00:12:57   >>> New developments in the natalee holloway investigation.

00:12:59   Hln has learned fbi agents will head to lima, peru, next week.

00:13:04   They'll be searching for possible clues inside a labtop belonging to joran van der sloot.

00:13:12   The access to the hard drive was granted by a lima court.

00:13:16   Jean casarez spoke with hln's own mike galanos about why this is such a key development.

00:13:23   >> Don't forget, there's a very active extortion case in this country that joran van der sloot has been charged in in federal court.

00:13:30   He's facing 40 years.

00:13:32   There were a lot of e-mails that are exchanged back and forth.

00:13:34   They've never had access to the e-mails on his side.

00:13:36   >> Natalee holloway vanished on a high school trip to aruba back in 2005.

00:13:41   And will this latest development result in more family heartache or could the answers to what happened to her be contained somewhere on that hard drive?

00:13:50   >> The computer was seized last year by authorities when he was arrested.

00:13:56   And it is a very active and integral part of the prosecution in peru.

00:14:00   Remember, he said as part of his confession that they were playing poker, internet poker on the computer and suddenly stephanie flores saw an e-mail to him, saying he was a mongoloid because it had been five years since the disappearance of natalee holloway, and that's what started the altercation that led to her killing.

00:14:19   That's an important piece of evidence to prosecutors, but in a showing of international cooperation, and we've got to thank the peruvian government, they were required to do this, but they don't have to do this.

00:14:29   They're sharing it at this point with u.s. authorities.

00:14:32   >> Joran van der sloot's attorney and a representative from stephanie flores' family, a 21-year-old woman he's admitted to killing, will also be present during the fbi's forensic examination.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Kermit on March 10, 2011, 10:57:57 PM
URINE THINKS HE'S A POKER PLAYER

HE GONNA PLAY HIS WAY RIGHT TO AMERICA..

NOTHIN BETTER THAN WATCHING URINE CONITNUE TO SLIP UP

DO YOU FEEL THE NET CLOSING IN ON YA URINE?

ANY OF HIS FAMILY COME TO AMERICA

THEY'RE FREE GAME

YOU TO LEPRECHAUNS


...KEEPTHEFAITH MONKEY'S...

...WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED...


(http://blogs.smarter.com/blogs/St.%20Patrick%27s%20Day.jpg)

jump leprechauns jump


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 10, 2011, 11:10:21 PM
URINE THINKS HE'S A POKER PLAYER

HE GONNA PLAY HIS WAY RIGHT TO AMERICA..

NOTHIN BETTER THAN WATCHING URINE CONITNUE TO SLIP UP

DO YOU FEEL THE NET CLOSING IN ON YA URINE?

ANY OF HIS FAMILY COME TO AMERICA

THEY'RE FREE GAME

YOU TO LEPRECHAUNS


...KEEPTHEFAITH MONKEY'S...

...WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED...


(http://blogs.smarter.com/blogs/St.%20Patrick%27s%20Day.jpg)

jump leprechauns jump


And you can join them, kermit!  ::MonkeyWink::

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/St%20Pat/Kermit.gif)http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/St%20Pat/Kermit.gif



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 10, 2011, 11:12:56 PM
http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6536&Itemid=1

(http://www.bondia.com/images/stories/2011/March%202011/09/9bondia%20(11).JPG)

Papiamentu translation:

criminalidad do not cuminza at instant of the mature but mucho more first

wednesday, 09 march 2011

 ::snipping2::
mr. dowers owing to reconoce cu aruba have one problem enormous cu criminalidad. sinembargo, criminalidad do not cuminza at instant cu the person achieve his self in problem cu husticia, but mucho more first. kizas till even for of instant cu the person was one child diminutive. then, for work at descend criminalidad the is rekeri intervencion of various angulo, for of various ministerio, particularmente salud publico y asuntonan social.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2011, 11:31:32 PM
URINE THINKS HE'S A POKER PLAYER

HE GONNA PLAY HIS WAY RIGHT TO AMERICA..

NOTHIN BETTER THAN WATCHING URINE CONITNUE TO SLIP UP

DO YOU FEEL THE NET CLOSING IN ON YA URINE?

ANY OF HIS FAMILY COME TO AMERICA

THEY'RE FREE GAME

YOU TO LEPRECHAUNS


...KEEPTHEFAITH MONKEY'S...

...WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED...


(http://blogs.smarter.com/blogs/St.%20Patrick%27s%20Day.jpg)

jump leprechauns jump


Now that is a classic post Kermit. Froggy power! ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2011, 11:32:51 PM
I thought it was Billb and Wreck until I took a closer look... ::MonkeyDevil:: I kid you both  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2011, 11:33:57 PM
Time to watch the Dawgs take on the Cooogs. Klaas is smiling after a victory over the bruins!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 10, 2011, 11:38:51 PM
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5295/5516205433_1d1f8c4091_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 10, 2011, 11:46:24 PM
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5295/5516205433_1d1f8c4091_o.jpg)

We represent the Leprechaun Guild, The Leprechaun Guild, The Leprechaun Guild
And in the name of the leprechaun Guild,
We wish to welcome you to leprechauninland.

::MonkeySlide::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 10, 2011, 11:51:39 PM
http://www.themorningnewsaruba.com/

The Morning News Aruba

3/9/2011 Page 3

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/03092011_TheMorningNewsAruba_Joran.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 11, 2011, 12:03:05 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Grad00o9.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanyFlores_takentoosoon-1.jpg)

Justice for Natalee and Stephany!


 ::MonkeyJustice::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 11, 2011, 12:06:21 AM
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/03/10/daily-commentary-thursday-march-10th-2011-plea-bargain-for-van-der-sloot/

Daily Commentary – Thursday, March 10th, 2011 – Plea Bargain for Van der Sloot?


Thanks Dana!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on March 11, 2011, 12:08:12 AM
I thought it was Billb and Wreck until I took a closer look... ::MonkeyDevil:: I kid you both  ::MonkeyDevil::
::MonkeyCool:: Gee, thanks!!

(I think Kermit always refers to the Klapons as "the leprechauns"!!)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: billb's daughter on March 11, 2011, 12:16:47 AM
I thought it was Billb and Wreck until I took a closer look... ::MonkeyDevil:: I kid you both  ::MonkeyDevil::
As long as you say I'm the one on the right Ktf.....  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on March 11, 2011, 12:24:48 AM
I thought it was Billb and Wreck until I took a closer look... ::MonkeyDevil:: I kid you both  ::MonkeyDevil::
As long as you say I'm the one on the right Ktf.....  ::MonkeyCool::
The bald one??????  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: billb's daughter on March 11, 2011, 12:27:26 AM
Unless the FBI can facilitate Natalee coming home......in my book....too late to the party.....
urine can rot in castro castro.....I'd hate to see urine extradited to the US and serve his sentence.....It is pretty obvious to me that urine's supporters are hoping to get him in the US.......he'd be back on the streets in no time.........


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: billb's daughter on March 11, 2011, 12:29:17 AM
I thought it was Billb and Wreck until I took a closer look... ::MonkeyDevil:: I kid you both  ::MonkeyDevil::
As long as you say I'm the one on the right Ktf.....  ::MonkeyCool::
The bald one??????  ::MonkeyCool::
Ya....I walked right into that......dumb dumb dumb I am..... ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on March 11, 2011, 12:34:11 AM
Unless the FBI can facilitate Natalee coming home......in my book....too late to the party.....
urine can rot in castro castro.....I'd hate to see urine extradited to the US and serve his sentence.....It is pretty obvious to me that urine's supporters are hoping to get him in the US.......he'd be back on the streets in no time.........
I'm split on this --- he is facing 15-30 years max for MURDER in Peru and up to 40 years for mere extortion in the US. He also becomes a target for civil lawsuits and various other assorted crimes against an American once we get our hands on him. Bottom line -- In MY opinion, he NEVER leaves Peru alive. The Flores family is not to be forgotten in this mix.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 11, 2011, 12:36:43 AM
Great stuff. You guys brought a smile to my face after watching my Huskies look like garbage in the first half. It's great knowing that the FBI is waiting patiently for the right opportunity as they should. Urine lives in a piss box in CastroCastro. He rolls over and wakes up to look at his toilet in the ground. Sleep tight Urine. ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: billb's daughter on March 11, 2011, 12:37:33 AM
I thought it was Billb and Wreck until I took a closer look... ::MonkeyDevil:: I kid you both  ::MonkeyDevil::
As long as you say I'm the one on the right Ktf.....  ::MonkeyCool::
The bald one??????  ::MonkeyCool::
Ya....I walked right into that......dumb dumb dumb I am..... ::MonkeyEek::
Just for the record....wreck....before you pointed out that Kermit refers to the K2 and Klaas superimposed the k2s......
I picked the right one....because the left one is so much more uglier.... ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 11, 2011, 12:39:17 AM
Unless the FBI can facilitate Natalee coming home......in my book....too late to the party.....
urine can rot in castro castro.....I'd hate to see urine extradited to the US and serve his sentence.....It is pretty obvious to me that urine's supporters are hoping to get him in the US.......he'd be back on the streets in no time.........
I'm split on this --- he is facing 15-30 years max for MURDER in Peru and up to 40 years for mere extortion in the US. He also becomes a target for civil lawsuits and various other assorted crimes against an American once we get our hands on him. Bottom line -- In MY opinion, he NEVER leaves Peru alive. The Flores family is not to be forgotten in this mix.

I agree Wreck. Not to act like I know but I watch a lot of movies and know that if you're smart you'll wait till the lights go down before Urine accidently slips in the shower and hits his head. Where is Robots and our Creasy Bear at? I love me some Creasy Bear tactics.. ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 11, 2011, 12:41:01 AM
I thought it was Billb and Wreck until I took a closer look... ::MonkeyDevil:: I kid you both  ::MonkeyDevil::
As long as you say I'm the one on the right Ktf.....  ::MonkeyCool::

I never knew you old guys could still lift your legs up that high...  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 11, 2011, 12:45:34 AM
Some new documents filed in the Kalpoe vs. Dr. Phil case.  They aren't available yet but I'll keep checking.  The documents below are all new and should be available in the next couple days.:

03/09/2011 Order (FOR COMMISION TO TAKE OUT OF STATE DEPOSITION )
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

03/09/2011 Ex-Parte Application
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

03/09/2011 Opposition Document
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

So far this is all from the above:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5059/5516896714_fc2047f979_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: billb's daughter on March 11, 2011, 12:46:38 AM
Unless the FBI can facilitate Natalee coming home......in my book....too late to the party.....
urine can rot in castro castro.....I'd hate to see urine extradited to the US and serve his sentence.....It is pretty obvious to me that urine's supporters are hoping to get him in the US.......he'd be back on the streets in no time.........
I'm split on this --- he is facing 15-30 years max for MURDER in Peru and up to 40 years for mere extortion in the US. He also becomes a target for civil lawsuits and various other assorted crimes against an American once we get our hands on him. Bottom line -- In MY opinion, he NEVER leaves Peru alive. The Flores family is not to be forgotten in this mix.
Bolded above is my opinion to....bringing Natalee home would be a miracle...and that is why we pray for Justice for Natalee.....and Stephany...   


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on March 11, 2011, 12:47:37 AM
Some new documents filed in the Kalpoe vs. Dr. Phil case.  They aren't available yet but I'll keep checking.  The documents below are all new and should be available in the next couple days.:

03/09/2011 Order (FOR COMMISION TO TAKE OUT OF STATE DEPOSITION )
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

03/09/2011 Ex-Parte Application
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

03/09/2011 Opposition Document
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

So far this is all from the above:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5059/5516896714_fc2047f979_b.jpg)
Being "Alabama" -- I assume they want to depose Beth!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: billb's daughter on March 11, 2011, 12:54:41 AM
Great stuff. You guys brought a smile to my face after watching my Huskies look like garbage in the first half. It's great knowing that the FBI is waiting patiently for the right opportunity as they should. Urine lives in a piss box in CastroCastro. He rolls over and wakes up to look at his toilet in the ground. Sleep tight Urine. ::MonkeyGavel::
The more urine suffers..the closer (for me) Natalee and Stephany get to Justice....


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: billb's daughter on March 11, 2011, 01:12:16 AM
Good night Good Monkeys...
Justice for Natalee and Stephany is just around the corner...... ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: billb's daughter on March 11, 2011, 01:22:48 AM
Off topic maybe....there is a mention to Kermit though...you decide.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDn42B_t5A0&feature=related


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 11, 2011, 02:20:58 AM
MAJOR TSUNAMI IN JAPAN...TURN ON CNN



::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on March 11, 2011, 08:55:55 AM
MAJOR TSUNAMI IN JAPAN...TURN ON CNN



::MonkeyShocked::


I've started a thread in "News of the Day" Forum here at SM:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9586.msg1314580#msg1314580
At least 50 killed; tsunamis feared as massive quake hits Japan

Prayers for all affected by the earthquake, water and aftermath.   ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 11, 2011, 09:49:41 AM
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5139/5517004645_c114c904af_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 11, 2011, 10:51:51 AM
O/T

I was mesmerized with this last night, watching it live as the tsunami swept over Japan.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Klaas? You're OK, right?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 11, 2011, 01:28:40 PM
The region of Japan where the Tsunami occurred was not far from where my husband and family immigrated from in 1952.  His sisters in Vancouver have made contact with extended family members and all is fine.

We watched the footage in amazement on CNN last night.  It was a relief when the CNN host implied that the entire area had been evacuated.  However ... this morning it was reported that hundreds may have perished.

As the Tsunami was to reach the the West Coast of Vancouver Island around 8:00 AM  this morning ... the entire region was evacuation.  Thankfully ... nothing materialized.  I believe life is returning to normal.  Schools are to remain closed for the day.

Klaas ... the California coast?  What did you experience?

Janet


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 11, 2011, 02:53:42 PM
If it hasn't already been posted.

FBI traveling to Peru for clues in Natalee Holloway case

The Lima court document says the unnamed FBI agents will meet March 14 with two agents of the Peruvian National Police High Technology Crime Division at the Peruvian National Police Headquarters in Lima.

During the meeting they will have access to the computer's hard drive and will be able to conduct forensic examinations on it.


http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/03/10/peru.van.der.sloot/index.html?hpt=Sbin

Has Urine wet the bed yet?


::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 11, 2011, 02:57:50 PM
What took them so long :roll:


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 11, 2011, 03:34:33 PM
What took them so long :roll:

Wish I knew. I'm sure the Peruvians and the American authorities got their fingers all over Urine without him even knowing. It would be a great day to get the Urinator to American soil.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 11, 2011, 06:24:43 PM
http://amigoenieuws.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4517:justitie-aruba-wil-laptop-joran-ook-onderzoeken&catid=108:artikelen-aruba&Itemid=199 (http://amigoenieuws.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4517:justitie-aruba-wil-laptop-joran-ook-onderzoeken&catid=108:artikelen-aruba&Itemid=199)




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 11, 2011, 06:34:44 PM
Well the FBI sure better get their hands on it first.......


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 11, 2011, 06:56:24 PM
Well the FBI sure better get their hands on it first.......
:smt045


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 11, 2011, 07:04:37 PM
2NJ -I left a message in her thread  ::MonkeyTears::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9480.msg1314854#msg1314854


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 11, 2011, 08:54:15 PM
                                 ::MonkeyAngel::  ::MonkeyAngel::
                      ::MonkeyAngel::                       ::MonkeyAngel::
                      ::MonkeyAngel::                          ::MonkeyAngel::
                      ::MonkeyAngel::                       ::MonkeyAngel::
                                                                   ::MonkeyAngel::
                                                                 ::MonkeyAngel::
                                                               ::MonkeyAngel::
                                                              ::MonkeyAngel::
                                                            ::MonkeyAngel::
                                                          ::MonkeyAngel::
                                                        ::MonkeyAngel::
                                                      ::MonkeyAngel::
                                                    ::MonkeyAngel::
                                                  ::MonkeyAngel::
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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2011, 12:24:14 AM
2NJ -I left a message in her thread  ::MonkeyTears::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9480.msg1314854#msg1314854

I hope this is o.k., I felt like it was appropriate since 2NJ was a constant presence here...and I know she still will be.  Beautiful work CBB...

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Valentine%20Avatar/2nj7.gif)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: San on March 12, 2011, 12:30:21 AM
It's fine TM.  Thanks for posting it.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2011, 12:36:25 AM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/28849-a-saca-19-choller-for-di-riba-caya-pero-ta-wardando-espacio-pa-sigui-cu-e-trabou.html

Papiamentu translation:

owing to saca 19 choller for of on caya but is wardando espacio for follow cu the work

friday, 11 march 2011 22:36

problem of adiccion is much big at aruba. but also the is diversifica because is talk of two are of cual esun problemático is chollernan cu wanted succeed for they wordo poni under curatela. y is the problem here the comision instala door of minister of salubridad publico, dr. richard visser, y encabesa for jan van der straten is trahando on dje. in combersación cu van der straten past owing to give of conoce cu for of anja happen for awo, they owing to succeed haci enough work but was have some factor cu owing to stroba or is tardando movecion for ataca the problem of adiccion y ciernan. y one of this is cu centro colorado do not in funcion debi at the estado in cual the is. after cu the comision owing to wordo instala, they owing to cuminsa haci one analisis of the situación caminda do not only the problem of choller, but the problem of adiccion self is much big.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2011, 12:38:41 AM
It's fine TM.  Thanks for posting it.

Thank you San.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2011, 12:55:24 AM
http://milford-ma.patch.com/articles/police-former-waters-employee-stole-80k

UPDATE: Former Manager Faces 10 Felony Charges

A former Waters Corp. employee and Bridgewater resident allegedly used her company card for $80,000 in personal expenses.

By Mary MacDonald | Email the author | March 10, 2011

Editor's note: This story was updated at 1 p.m. with details from court filings.

A former manager at Waters Corp. is accused of using company funds to cover more than $80,000 in personal charges on her corporate credit card, including for trips to Aruba and Cape Cod, police said.

Darlene L. Duchaine, 58, of Bridgewater, had worked for Waters for approximately 10 years, and allegedly used her corporate American Express card numerous times for personal expenses between March 2005 and September 2009.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2011, 01:11:04 AM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/28646-trudy-hassell-ta-candidato-pa-bira-director-di-kia-.html

Papiamentu translation:

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b.175.125.16777215.0...images.stories.news.2011.PERSONAHE.trudy-hassell001.JPG)

trudy hassell is candidato for become director of kia

tuesday, 08 march 2011 00:03

in pasado owing to arrive of menciona his name for is the alto comisario of police, owing to mencion'e because; possible candidato for maneha c.e.a y now his name is cay again because; one potencial for maneha k.i.a. trudy hassell owing to profila his self because; one lady of caracter strong y decidido y is precisamente locual kia have to now cu presonan is dunando impresion of have enough power in the institute.

::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2011, 02:21:53 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_50.jpg)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE,

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/machpicchusteph.jpg)

AND STEPHANY!

 ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: darleenofalabama on March 12, 2011, 03:19:46 AM
I haven't really been here.  I signed in a few days ago, and was going to check back in and found that I was already signed in.  My tiara must have got caught in the door as I was leaving.  Hello, Everyone!  See y'all later.  I'm going to try to close the door on my way out this time.  LOL


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2011, 09:09:10 AM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/28851-a-sinti-temblor-na-aruba.html

Papiamentu translation:

owing to feel earthquake at aruba

saturday, 12 march 2011 06:12

today morning trempan for 5:26am owing to feel one sacudi diminutive on we island. servicio meteorologico owing to confirma cu owing to sosode one earthquake cu epicentro at 12.07n y 69.89w at one profundidad of 17.3km, more or less 55km noordoost of sharp fijo, venezuela. habitantenan of ponton, sabana broom, san nicolas y santa cruz owing to raporta of owing to sinti'e here at aruba also.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2011, 09:29:57 AM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/28851-a-sinti-temblor-na-aruba.html

Papiamentu translation:

owing to feel earthquake at aruba

saturday, 12 march 2011 06:12

today morning trempan for 5:26am owing to feel one sacudi diminutive on we island. servicio meteorologico owing to confirma cu owing to sosode one earthquake cu epicentro at 12.07n y 69.89w at one profundidad of 17.3km, more or less 55km noordoost of sharp fijo, venezuela. habitantenan of ponton, sabana broom, san nicolas y santa cruz owing to raporta of owing to sinti'e here at aruba also.
 ::snipping2::

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=6571&offId=0&offDate=2011-3

Papiamentu translation:

earthquake owing to end of sacudi aruba

post you comment here bao, where you was y owing to feel this....nos owing to achieve info cu at north tanki leendert, hooiberg,santa cruz, pos diminutive mabon, san nicolas

(There is a facebook post that added Calabas also.)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 12, 2011, 09:31:42 AM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/28851-a-sinti-temblor-na-aruba.html

Papiamentu translation:

owing to feel earthquake at aruba

saturday, 12 march 2011 06:12

today morning trempan for 5:26am owing to feel one sacudi diminutive on we island. servicio meteorologico owing to confirma cu owing to sosode one earthquake cu epicentro at 12.07n y 69.89w at one profundidad of 17.3km, more or less 55km noordoost of sharp fijo, venezuela. habitantenan of ponton, sabana broom, san nicolas y santa cruz owing to raporta of owing to sinti'e here at aruba also.
 ::snipping2::

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=6571&offId=0&offDate=2011-3

Papiamentu translation:

earthquake owing to end of sacudi aruba

post you comment here bao, where you was y owing to feel this....nos owing to achieve info cu at north tanki leendert, hooiberg,santa cruz, pos diminutive mabon, san nicolas

(There is a facebook post that added Calabas also.)

According to the USGS there has been no earthquakes in Venezuela since Feb 4, 2011.

Maybe Anita or Sebas simply have gas?   ::MonkeyDevil::

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/last_event/world/world_venezuela.php

Maybe some other kind of explosion?
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/28851-a-sinti-temblor-na-aruba.html


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2011, 09:46:13 AM
 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.diario.aw/2011/03/cacho-di-seguridad-a-morde-turista-malamente/

Papiamentu translation:

cacho of seguridad owing to bite tourist malamente

publication: diabierna, 11 march 2011. categoria:

general oranjestad.(aan): very much owing to wordo publica problem of cachonan cu is march los apparently without owner, on caminda publico. the trip here is at entrance of platform, presencia of police owing to wordo rekeri. owing to enter call via central of police cu cacho owing to bite tourist of one crusero. one unidad of police encarga cu distrito of oranjestad owing to wordo dirigi at once direccion of harbour y at instant cu the patrol owing to present, was have present testigonan cu owing to declara cu the tourist provided that cuestion owing to wordo mordi for cacho y the mordi is big y serious y cu the bishitante owing to lever abordo of the barco crusero. in careda of 1’ or afternoon police owing to wordo calling for lever the crusero y abordo police owing to atende the madam tourist of inicialnan owing to.g. naci at merca of 79 year of edad. the tourist was wordo deal at the instant ey for her doctor abordo of the crusero. the medico owing to notifica police cu the mordi is big y the madam have to owing to ricibi 20 gancho. according the bishitante his version, past owing to bay enter the edificio mar azul y the not owing to ripara cu have cacho of guardia mara in the lugar. locual past owing to see is one blackboard cual is indica “cachonan peligroso”, according the bishitante come across. but first cu the can owing to reacciona already the cacho owing to gare at his leg. after cu police owing to atende the asistencia y owing to listen version of tanto testigonan come across, doctor y also the victima of casi 80 year of edad, the agentenan owing to bay at the edificio of mar azul for averigua one que another. at the lugar police owing to atende he naci at colombia of inicialnan s.l.m. of 45 year of edad cu is owner of seguridad. he colombiano owing to declara y confirma cu the tourist owing to wordo mordi for one of his cachonan. 

::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2011, 09:47:39 AM
Klaas   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2011, 09:54:13 AM

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=6574&offId=0&offDate=2011-3

(http://www.awe24.com/_moblog_items/6574/2_1299939902.jpg)

5 hora happen | fecha: 12/03/2011 | horario: 05:30

as we owing to trece already end in one form of primicia, cu one earthquake owing to sacudi in we region y owing to arise several person for of soÑo

saturday madruga is cantidad of person owing to arise spanta hour they owing to hear y or feel the earthquake of 4.1 mw on scala of richter at one profundidad of 17.3 km this owing to sosode more pazuid of aruba at the costa of venezuela. 
::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 12, 2011, 10:51:26 AM
2NJ -I left a message in her thread  ::MonkeyTears::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9480.msg1314854#msg1314854


The 23rd Psalm
The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want.
He maketh me to lie down in green pastures,
He leadeth me beside the still waters,
He restoreth my soul.
He leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil:
For thou art with me.
Thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies.
Thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life,
and I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 12, 2011, 11:31:12 AM
A REMINDER


SOUTHERN ARKANSAS UNIVERSITY TECH'S DISTINGUISHED SPEAKERS SERIES

Beth Holloway

Mother of Natalee Holloway, Speaker and Educator


SAU Tech is proud to announce Beth Holloway as the fourth annual distinguished speaker for 2011.  Holloway shares her experiences in facing a personal tragedy and shares how her faith, courage, dedication and strength has brought her through to today.  How does one muster the courage to persevere in the face of sheer adversity?  Do we all have capacity to overcome tragedy?  Find out as you listen to her story.

March 14, 2011
Charles O. Ross Center

Call For a Complimentary Ticket - 870.574.4521

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http://www.sautech.edu/docs/Beth%20Holloway1.pdf



Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

I NEVER ASK HIM WHY


Pages 100: He entrusted me with her care for eighteen years.  Now I must trust Him to care for her.  So I never ask Him why.  Why Natalee?  Why me?  I don't ask.  To do that undermines faith.  Instead, I form an "acceptance trust" with Him there on the windy hillside.
 
NOT THE WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE.  JUST THE BURDEN

Page 103: I think about what just happened, pondering the human spirit.  Apparently it can withstand a lot more than I every dreamed possible.  Mom is right; God is good.  All my life I've heard people of many faiths talk about "taking it to the cross and turning it over to the Lord" or just simply "turning it over.  Not the work that has to be done.  Just the burden.  I cast it upon Him so that I may be sustained.  And I am renewed, resilient.  Thankful for however long this resurgence in energy will carry me.  I will pick up one foot and put it down.  Then the other one will follow.  I will breathe.  There is much to be done.
 
I'M TAKING LEAVE OF THE ISLAND BUT ...

Page 189:    It's the proverbial, Biblical conflict between good and evil.  It's very, very hard to fight evil because it constantly changes form and you never know who your enemies are.  And evil is always two steps ahead. From the outset we never had a chance.  But we didn't know it.  I'm taking leave of the island, but not from the work yet to be done.
 
MY PLEDGE

Page 200:  My child.  My beautiful daughter.  I can't save her.  It's too late.  Natalee is gone. And second to the great tragedy of losing her is if we fail to learn from what has happened.  I could be any parent in the world.  And no parent should ever go through this experience.  Natalee could be anyone's daughter.  And in these thoughts a new path is made clear.  There is something I can do.  Many people reached out to us, and I can now reach back to them.  It might be too late to save Natalee, but it's not too late to save others.  And it's time now to make good on my pledge to stand before high-school and college students, law enforcement professinals, victims' rights groups, travelers of all ages, and anyone interested in personal safety to share Natalee's story and our hard lessons, so that others might learn from them.

A CONSCIOUS DECISION EVERY MORNING

Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
 
FAITH WILL SEE ME THROUGH

Pages 230/231:  I can't say for sure if we'll ever know that answer to whether my daughter is alive or not.  I know it doesn't look good.  But just as that old metal spiral staircase rose from the ashes when our lake house burned down, so too faith stands strong in the remains of this devastating loss.  And just as my Dad built another house around that staircase, I will build another life around hope and faith.  It won't ever be the same.  But I pray that it will, at the very least, be useful.  The hope that filled Natalee's heart fills mine, and I will press on.  Faith got me up this morning, and faith will see me through tomorrow.  And the next day.  And the next.
 
EVERY CHANCE WE GET

Page 232:  Without hope we are hungry. And on a very deep level, desperate. But no one has to be. What's so amazing is that we can feed each other. We can help each other. We have the power to give resilience to others who are fading. We can nourish each other's spirits and save one another from defeat and despair. Every one of us possesses this power to "love thy neighbor," and we need to use it every chance we get.
______

 :smt060


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 12, 2011, 11:55:05 AM
Psalm 118:24
This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.

WE HAVE THIS MOMENT


Tender words, gentle touch and a good cup of coffee
And someone who loves me and wants me to stay
Hold them dear while they’re near don’t wait for tomorrow
To look back and wish for today.

We have this moment to hold in our hands
And to touch as it slips through our fingers like sand
Yesterday's gone and tomorrow may never come
But we have this moment, today.
 
Bill and Gloria Gaither


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2011, 11:56:06 AM
 ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.bucuticam.com/

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/03122011_BucutiBeachResortArubaCam.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 12, 2011, 12:11:06 PM
Thank you TM and Janet


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2011, 01:01:29 PM
Thank you TM and Janet

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Greetings/GroupHug-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: sharon on March 12, 2011, 01:41:50 PM
 ::MonkeyTears::

 {{{{}}}}


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2011, 02:56:36 PM
http://amigoenieuws.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4607:aruba-opgeschrikt-door-aardbeving&catid=108:artikelen-aruba&Itemid=199

Google translation:

Aruba rocked by earthquake

Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:18 p.m.

ORANGE CITY - This morning about half past five Aruba is rocked by an earthquake. It was a quake of 4.1 on the Richter scale. This is during the morning, confirmed by the Meteorological Service of Aruba.

The exact timing of the quake was four minutes before half past five in the morning. The epicenter was 55 km north-east of Punto Fijo in Venezuela (12.07 N and 69.89 W) and it took place at a depth of 17.3 km. Meteo let know that the earthquake this morning at various locations on Aruba is felt: Ponton, Sabana Basora, San Nicolas, Santa Cruz, Piedra Plat, Alto Vista, Palm Beach and North. Many people were awakened, were sought refuge on the internet or put messages on social sites like Facebook. Top FM radio station was soon called by disturbing listeners who shared their experiences and their eggs would lose what they had felt.
According to one witness was a strange experience to wake up in a shaking bed. It was clear it was right that it was an earthquake because everything meeschut. Wardrobes shook and windows creaked a few seconds.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2011, 03:00:06 PM
http://amigoenieuws.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4515:handboek-tegen-mensenhandel&catid=108:artikelen-aruba&Itemid=199

Google translation:

Handbook on human trafficking

(http://amigoenieuws.com/images/stories/11-03-2011/532171.jpg)

Friday, 11 March 2011 6:12 p.m.

ORANGE CITY - Since tackling human trafficking a few years back when priority is given within the Kingdom, the authorities are actively working to implement it. Thus, for police officer Jeanette Richardson perch recently paid a visit to Washington DC to obtain information on trafficking and smuggling worldwide.

Upon returning shared her knowledge perch including Justice Minister Arthur Dower (AVP), a manual handing of the International Organization for Migration (IOM).
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 12, 2011, 06:13:40 PM
http://foreign.peacefmonline.com/entertainment/201103/143466.php

Ryan Phillippe's 'Lincoln Lawyer' Character Inspiration: Natalee Holloway Suspect Joran Van Der Sloot
 
Date: 12-Mar-2011   

 ::snipping2::

"This guy's evil. It's definitely the darkest character I've ever played," Ryan said of his role as Louis Roulet, a Beverly Hills playboy being defended by Matthew's title character.

"He's a guy who has a sense of entitlement and the sense directly that he can get away with anything including murder, and there's a definite psychosis there to this guy," the 36-year-old actor explained.

The actor told Access that Van der Sloot, a Dutch national also accused of first-degree murder and robbery in the case of Stephany Flores, helped him prepare for the dark role.

"I [spent] some time researching cases that I thought were somewhat similar. There was something to me about the Joran Van der Sloot case, the Natalee Holloway case," Ryan said. "The way that guy... what was behind his eyes, the arrogance, the belief that he could get away with his crime. Those things sort of related to Roulet."

"The Lincoln Lawyer" hits theaters on March 18.   



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2011, 07:34:05 PM
http://elcomercio.pe/lima/726594/noticia-caso-van-der-sloot-fbi-accedera-archivos-holandes

Google translation:

Van der Sloot Case: FBI files accessed from Dutch

The officers hope to find more clues about the murder of Natalee Holloway , a process that is under investigation in United States

Saturday 12 March 2011 - 5:29 pm 3 comments

(http://e.elcomercio.pe/66/ima/0/0/3/0/8/308002.jpg)
(File El Comercio)

The Peruvian justice shall present a copy of computer disk Dutch Joran Van der Sloot to agents of the FBI investigating the disappearance occurred in 2005 in Aruba of American Natalee Holloway to whom he was connected.

 ::snipping2::

The police chief said the FBI agents "seeking information relevant to the process followed to Van der Sloot in the U.S. for the case of Natalee Holloway" and added that the Dutch computer confiscated the suspect, "there is additional information seems to be of interest. "


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2011, 07:40:21 PM
 ::MonkeyConfused::

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnoticias.terra.com.pe%2Finternacional%2Flatinoamerica%2Fperu-daran-copia-disco-de-van-der-sloot-a-fbi%2Cedd5626f65bae210VgnVCM4000009bf154d0RCRD.html&act=url
 
::snipping2::

In the computer confiscated the suspect Dutch "no additional information which appears to be of interest" to the detectives of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) U.S., according to Gonzales.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2011, 07:44:38 PM
I'm glad the FBI is getting a copy to study, and come to their own conclusion of whether or not there's additional information of interest to them.

 ::MonkeyCool::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 12, 2011, 07:46:06 PM
::MonkeyConfused::

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnoticias.terra.com.pe%2Finternacional%2Flatinoamerica%2Fperu-daran-copia-disco-de-van-der-sloot-a-fbi%2Cedd5626f65bae210VgnVCM4000009bf154d0RCRD.html&act=url
 
::snipping2::

In the computer confiscated the suspect Dutch "no additional information which appears to be of interest" to the detectives of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) U.S., according to Gonzales.

I think something is getting lost in the translation maybe.  Could they be saying that the FBI is only interested in the Laptop and nothing else collected by Peru in the Stephany case?


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2011, 07:52:20 PM
::MonkeyConfused::

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnoticias.terra.com.pe%2Finternacional%2Flatinoamerica%2Fperu-daran-copia-disco-de-van-der-sloot-a-fbi%2Cedd5626f65bae210VgnVCM4000009bf154d0RCRD.html&act=url
 
::snipping2::

In the computer confiscated the suspect Dutch "no additional information which appears to be of interest" to the detectives of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) U.S., according to Gonzales.

I think something is getting lost in the translation maybe.  Could they be saying that the FBI is only interested in the Laptop and nothing else collected by Peru in the Stephany case?

I agree there could be something lost in translation.  I think they are specifically talking about the hard drive on the laptop, but IMO there's no way they (LE in Peru) could possibly know enough about Natalee's case (ALL the information the FBI has gathered over all this time) to come to a conclusion about what might or might not be important.  jmo


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 12, 2011, 08:48:38 PM
FBI to have access to van der Sloot's laptop
Published: 3/11 7:10 am
Updated: 3/11 7:15 am


Birmingham, Al (CBS42)  FBI agents will travel to Peru to inspect the hard drive of Joran van der Sloot's laptop.  CNN's InSession is reporting "federal agents will meet March 14 with two agents of the Peruvian National Police High Technology Crime Division at the Peruvian National Police Headquarters in Lima."

The obvious hope is that van der Sloot's computer will contain clues to help solve the 2005 disappearance of Mountain Brook teen Natalee Holloway on a school trip to Aruba.  She was last seen leaving a club with van der Sloot and two other local teens.  He has never been charged in her disappearance but is still considered the prime suspect.

The FBI also won an indictment against van der Sloot on wire fraud and extortion charges.   They claim he took money from the Holloway family promising them information about Natalee's fate but never delivered any relevant information.

The laptop to be examined is also a critical link in van der Sloot's legal troubles in Peru.  He's in the Castro Castro prison facing charges he killed a 21 year old Peruvian student.  The body of Stephany Flores was found in van der Sloot's Lima hotel room.  In a grisly coincidence, her body was found five years to the day of Natalee's disapearance.

Peruvian justice authorities say van der Sloot confessed he killed Flores when she found material relating to Holloway on his laptop...the same computer the FBI will now get a chance to examine.

<snipped>

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/FBI-to-have-access-to-van-der-Sloots-laptop/Nqe0-HOkNE6F0C7HdXQ17w.cspx


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 12, 2011, 09:10:57 PM
2NJ - Funeral and donation in lieu of flowers information:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9480.msg1315158#msg1315158


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: AZSunny on March 12, 2011, 10:44:22 PM
2NJ - Funeral and donation in lieu of flowers information:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9480.msg1315158#msg1315158

OH my God, what happened? 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 12, 2011, 11:19:14 PM
2NJ - Funeral and donation in lieu of flowers information:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9480.msg1315158#msg1315158

OH my God, what happened? 

AZSunny, 2NJ passed away yesterday afternoon.  It is so sad.
There is a link to her thread on page 10 of this thread.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: San on March 12, 2011, 11:30:45 PM
2NJ - Funeral and donation in lieu of flowers information:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9480.msg1315158#msg1315158

OH my God, what happened? 

AZSunny we are all shocked by what happened to 2NJSons.  Here is just a little of what we knew:

2NJ had went to the Dr. because she had walking pneumonia and they found a spot on her lung.  She was suppose to go for an MRI and we had not heard from her for a while and then Klaas found her son on Facebook.  He informed us that she had been in the hospital and her prognosis was promising.  He told us that she had come home from the hospital and was getting much needed rest.  She had been getting a lot of visitors and she wasn't able to sign on SM to talk.  Then her son told Klaas what had happened.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 12, 2011, 11:43:22 PM
http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=6583&offId=0

POLIS A DETENE HOMBER DROGA EXHIBCIONISTA CU A CUMINSA HACI STRIPTEASE RIBA CAYA NA SAN NICOLAS

(http://www.awe24.com/_moblog_items/6583/2_1299968702.jpg)


Looks a bit like Boeti
  ::MonkeyCool::

Boeti

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5218/5521248535_0ee1edd327_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 13, 2011, 01:24:32 AM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_50.jpg)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE,

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/machpicchusteph.jpg)

AND STEPHANY!

 ::MonkeyJustice::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: spooky112483 on March 13, 2011, 04:26:24 AM
2NJ - Funeral and donation in lieu of flowers information:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9480.msg1315158#msg1315158

OH my God, what happened? 

AZSunny we are all shocked by what happened to 2NJSons.  Here is just a little of what we knew:

2NJ had went to the Dr. because she had walking pneumonia and they found a spot on her lung.  She was suppose to go for an MRI and we had not heard from her for a while and then Klaas found her son on Facebook.  He informed us that she had been in the hospital and her prognosis was promising.  He told us that she had come home from the hospital and was getting much needed rest.  She had been getting a lot of visitors and she wasn't able to sign on SM to talk.  Then her son told Klaas what had happened.
This is a Tori Amos song called Gold Dust written about the passing of her brother. Just seems fitting to me.

sights and sounds
pull me back down
another year

i was here
i was here

whipping past
the reflecting pool
me and you
skipping school

and we make it up
as we go along
we make it up as  we
go along

you said -
you raced from langley -
pulling me underneath
a cherry blossom
canopy
-do i have-
of course i have,
beneath my raincoat,
i have your photographs.
and the sun on your
face
i'm freezing that frame

and somewhere alfie cries
and says "enjoy his every smile
you can see in the dark
through the eyes of laura mars"
how did it go so fast
you'll say
as we are looking
back
and then we'll
understand
we held gold dust
in our
hands

sights and sounds
pull me back down
another year

i was here
i was here

gaslights
glow in the street
(flickering past)
twilight held us
in her palm
as we walked along

and we make it up
as we go along
we make it up as we go along

letting names
hang in the
air
what color hair
(auburn crimson)
autumn knowingly
stared
and the day that
she came
i'm freezing that
frame
i'm freezing that frame

and somewhere alfie
smiles
and says "enjoy her
every cry
you can see in the
dark
through the eyes
of laura mars"

how did it go so
fast
you'll say as we are looking back
and then we'll understand
we held gold dust
in our
hands

in our
hands




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: AZSunny on March 13, 2011, 10:30:22 AM
Thank you Magnolia, San and Klass for the info on 2NJ.  I have been out of state for 3 weeks, and not checking in, and then just shocked by what I saw.  Rose Anne and I kept in touch through calls and emails for years.  I am very sad this morning.  Bless her family.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 13, 2011, 12:58:53 PM
(http://www.bucuticam.com/arubacam.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 13, 2011, 01:15:39 PM
Thank you Klaas!   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Anna on March 13, 2011, 02:40:50 PM
http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=6583&offId=0

POLIS A DETENE HOMBER DROGA EXHIBCIONISTA CU A CUMINSA HACI STRIPTEASE RIBA CAYA NA SAN NICOLAS

(http://www.awe24.com/_moblog_items/6583/2_1299968702.jpg)


Looks a bit like Boeti
  ::MonkeyCool::

Boeti

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5218/5521248535_0ee1edd327_o.jpg)



Yikes--what is wrong with that man's legs?  Is that scarring or the worst vericose veins ever?

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 13, 2011, 02:46:20 PM
Anna- I had to blow up the photo to see what you were talking about.  Wonder if he's been shooting up drugs into his legs?


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 13, 2011, 02:52:17 PM
Another car accident in Aruba
http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=6588&offId=0&offDate=2011-3

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5215/5523610626_5555c4e8c9_b.jpg)



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 13, 2011, 02:52:32 PM
 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 13, 2011, 02:55:14 PM
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Are-answers-to-Natalees-fate-on-Jorans-computer/Myu1odnEYkCNSUEDORPg6g.cspx

Are answers to Natalee's fate on Joran's computer?
   
Print Story Published: 1:05 pm Updated: 1:08 pm

Birmingham, Al (CBS42)  Will almost six years of mystery about Natalee Holloway's fate be solved when FBI agents inspect the hard drive of Joran van der Sloot's computer?

FBI agents are due to meet with Peruvian justice officials in Lima Monday and are expected to get a copy of the contents of Joran van der Sloot's laptop. That could be a key break in the almost six years of wondering about the fate of Natalee Holloway, a Mountain Brook teen who disappeared on a school trip to Aruba in 2005. She was seen leaving a club with Joran van der Sloot..and never seen again.

The computer in question is a key element in two international crime stories...Natalee's disappearance and the murder of 21 year old college student Stephany Flores.

 ::snipping2::


It's possible there might be evidence pertaining to the fraud case on the laptop as well as information about Natalee's last hours.

The Birmingham FBI office would not confirm that local agents are making the trip to Lima.

 ::snipping2::

A Birmingham justice department spokesperson says the local feds are keeping a close eye on the process unfolding in Peru. Van der Sloot also faces possible extradition to Alabama to face the wire fraud and extortion charges.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 13, 2011, 02:56:15 PM
Anna- I had to blow up the photo to see what you were talking about.  Wonder if he's been shooting up drugs into his legs?

Probably so.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

jmo


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Anna on March 13, 2011, 03:20:27 PM
Well, they look awful.  And does that article say he is an exhibitionist?


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 13, 2011, 03:34:30 PM
Well, they look awful.  And does that article say he is an exhibitionist?

Yes, maybe a stripper or flasher.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 13, 2011, 03:45:51 PM
BOETI

Very Connected On That Island

'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' - April 6, 2006


<snipped>

RITA COSBY, HOST: What do you make of the fact that it‘s so strange that here‘s this guy (Boeti) who‘s his brother-in-law, Gerold Dompig? Isn‘t that weird to you, too, just that strange connection? And the fact—it was interesting. When we were down there, the authorities were sort of, like, Well, we can‘t really focus on him because of, basically, who he‘s connected to.

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE‘S MOTHER:  Well, you know, it‘s really not any stranger to me than it is that the Kalpoes are cousins of Gerold Dompig. So you know, they‘re all very connected on that island. It‘s hard to find someone who‘s not a relative or a cousin.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12205086/


Tourists Beware!

On the Record with Greta - May 17, 2006

<snipped>

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: Booty is someone who hangs out on the beach, made a live on the beach. Someone who I have been told has a criminal history. He is there sometimes at night…has access to a boat, is the brother in law of Gerald Dompig.

JOE TACOPINA, JORAN VAN DER SLOOTS' ATTORNEY: And…most importantly, he had a hut on the beach and he showed us where it was that had a direct shot into the room stayed at that night.  We were there…the beach that he lived in, I mean literally stayed on this beach out there. What you have to understand this climate permits something like that. It’s just a cover and that’s where he stayed.

<snipped>

Transcript: Heli


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Frijole on March 13, 2011, 04:16:11 PM
::MonkeyDevil::
::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 13, 2011, 04:24:03 PM
http://elcomercio.pe/lima/726594/noticia-caso-van-der-sloot-fbi-accedera-archivos-holandes


Van der Sloot Case: FBI files accessed from Dutch

 ::snipping2::

The Peruvian justice shall present a copy of computer disk Dutch Joran Van der Sloot to FBI agents investigating the disappearance occurred in 2005 in Aruba of American Natalee Holloway to whom he was connected.

The head of the research division of the police high-tech, Oscar Gonzalez, said that after obtaining permission of the judiciary will be given to the agents a copy of the disc next week.

The Dutch lawyer, Max Altez, confirmed the court decision without providing further details.

The police chief said the FBI agents "seeking information relevant to the process followed to Van der Sloot in the U.S. for the case of Natalee Holloway" and added that the Dutch computer confiscated the suspect, "there is additional information seems to be of interest. "

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 13, 2011, 04:38:57 PM
Citing an ongoing investigation ... Aruba would not release any Natalee Holloway case files to Phil McGraw's attorneys.  Could it be that the "powers that be" in the Aruban investigation will object to Peru turning over info from the computer belonging to the main suspect in the Natalee Holloway case?

I wll be relieved when the FBI return to the States from Peru following the Monday's meeting with Peruvian authorities.

Could it be that Phil McGraw's attorneys will request access to these files through the FBI?

Janet

+++++


FBI traveling to Peru for clues in Natalee Holloway case
March 10, 2011 -- Updated 2007 GMT (0407 HKT)


(CNN) -- FBI agents are traveling to Peru to study a laptop belonging to Joran Van der Sloot -- who was arrested twice in connection with the Natalee Holloway case, but was not charged -- according to a Lima court document.

The Alabama teen disappeared during a high school graduation trip to Aruba in 2005. Van der Sloot was the last person to be seen with Holloway.

A source close to the case told InSession the FBI will be searching for any clues that can help solve the Holloway case.

Van der Sloot also faces federal wire fraud and extortion charges in the United States, where prosecutors say he demanded more than $250,000 from Holloway's family in return for disclosing the location of her body.

The Lima court document says the unnamed FBI agents will meet March 14 with two agents of the Peruvian National Police High Technology Crime Division at the Peruvian National Police Headquarters in Lima.

During the meeting they will have access to the computer's hard drive and will be able to conduct forensic examinations on it.

<snipped>

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/03/10/peru.van.der.sloot/


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 13, 2011, 07:12:04 PM
 ::MonkeyAngel::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5700.msg878415#msg878415
   
Natalee Holloway, Missing since 5/30/05 Aruba
« on: July 15, 2009, 09:55:13 AM »

Please light a candle remembering Natalee and her family's quest for answers.  Since two were created, you may use one or both.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 13, 2011, 07:14:44 PM
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Are-answers-to-Natalees-fate-on-Jorans-computer/Myu1odnEYkCNSUEDORPg6g.cspx

Are answers to Natalee's fate on Joran's computer?
   
Print Story Published: 1:05 pm Updated: 1:08 pm

Birmingham, Al (CBS42)  Will almost six years of mystery about Natalee Holloway's fate be solved when FBI agents inspect the hard drive of Joran van der Sloot's computer?

FBI agents are due to meet with Peruvian justice officials in Lima Monday and are expected to get a copy of the contents of Joran van der Sloot's laptop. That could be a key break in the almost six years of wondering about the fate of Natalee Holloway, a Mountain Brook teen who disappeared on a school trip to Aruba in 2005. She was seen leaving a club with Joran van der Sloot..and never seen again.

The computer in question is a key element in two international crime stories...Natalee's disappearance and the murder of 21 year old college student Stephany Flores.

 ::snipping2::


It's possible there might be evidence pertaining to the fraud case on the laptop as well as information about Natalee's last hours.

The Birmingham FBI office would not confirm that local agents are making the trip to Lima.

 ::snipping2::

A Birmingham justice department spokesperson says the local feds are keeping a close eye on the process unfolding in Peru. Van der Sloot also faces possible extradition to Alabama to face the wire fraud and extortion charges.

possible extradition???

I don't think there are answers on the computer, I think he even lies to himself.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Red on March 13, 2011, 09:45:27 PM
Just What is on Joran Van der Sloot’s Laptop that Connects the Case of Missing Natalee Holloway in Aruba and Murdered Stephany Flores in Peru

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/03/13/just-what-is-on-joran-van-der-sloots-laptop-that-connects-the-case-of-missing-natalee-holloway-in-aruba-and-murdered-stephany-flores-in-peru/

Quote
Is there a laptop connection between the disappearance of Natalee Holloway and the murder of StephanyFlores? There is no coincidence that the disappearance and murder occurred 5 years to the day. That is not temporary insanity, its just plain sociopath insanity.

...

However, what are the odds that Joran Van der Sloot this lying about his entire alibi regarding the brutal death of Stephany Flores? It would more seem that if Van der Sloot was willing to extort money from the Holloway’s for false info to get back at them, that he would also be obsessed with murdering another girl on the exact 5 year anniversary to get back at them as well … just an opinion.




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 13, 2011, 10:34:41 PM
Just What is on Joran Van der Sloot’s Laptop that Connects the Case of Missing Natalee Holloway in Aruba and Murdered Stephany Flores in Peru

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/03/13/just-what-is-on-joran-van-der-sloots-laptop-that-connects-the-case-of-missing-natalee-holloway-in-aruba-and-murdered-stephany-flores-in-peru/

Quote
Is there a laptop connection between the disappearance of Natalee Holloway and the murder of StephanyFlores? There is no coincidence that the disappearance and murder occurred 5 years to the day. That is not temporary insanity, its just plain sociopath insanity.

...

However, what are the odds that Joran Van der Sloot this lying about his entire alibi regarding the brutal death of Stephany Flores? It would more seem that if Van der Sloot was willing to extort money from the Holloway’s for false info to get back at them, that he would also be obsessed with murdering another girl on the exact 5 year anniversary to get back at them as well … just an opinion.


Thanks Red!   ::MonkeyCool::

I don't believe one word of Joran's story as to why he murdered Stephany.
It's the typical Joran lie, blame the victim...she was in my business..."she hit me first".  BS!
He's a cold calculating murderer and he thought he'd get away with it again.  It would be anyone's fault but his, and if that didn't work...temporary insanity.  GMAFB!
I don't believe Anita's story about his being set to go into a mental hospital before he left Aruba either, that's going to be his defense for the extortion case.  If by any means those arrangements were made it's because Anita was tipped off about Joran's involvement in extorting Natalee's family, and she thought that would be the way out of it for him.  If Anita really cared about Joran's mental well being she and his POS father would have done something REAL to correct his downward spiral before Natalee ever went to Aruba.  They knew his history better than anyone, and they knew it would only get worse.  Appearances were more important.  Instead they just fed his sense of entitlement, and covered his crimes by any means necessary.  Time in a mental institution to deal with his anger issues wouldn't have looked too good when they planned to ship him off to the U. S. for college now would it.  We've all witnessed how far Anita will go, and encourage others to go to place the blame for her first born murderers crimes anywhere other than where it belongs.  As stated by his attorney at the time of his confession in Peru, Anita seems to be giving the same advice even after another girl has died by his hands.  Sickening, truly sickening! 

jmo


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 13, 2011, 11:08:29 PM
A REMINDER


SOUTHERN ARKANSAS UNIVERSITY TECH'S DISTINGUISHED SPEAKERS SERIES

Beth Holloway

Mother of Natalee Holloway, Speaker and Educator


SAU Tech is proud to announce Beth Holloway as the fourth annual distinguished speaker for 2011.  Holloway shares her experiences in facing a personal tragedy and shares how her faith, courage, dedication and strength has brought her through to today.  How does one muster the courage to persevere in the face of sheer adversity?  Do we all have capacity to overcome tragedy?  Find out as you listen to her story.

March 14, 2011
Charles O. Ross Center

Call For a Complimentary Ticket - 870.574.4521

<snipped>

http://www.sautech.edu/docs/Beth%20Holloway1.pdf



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 14, 2011, 12:25:07 AM
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=666884140&sk=wall

 ::snipping2::

To All My Face Book Friends:

I’m happy to say that our 2011 Distinguished Speaker “Beth Holloway” tickets have all been given away. Thank you everyone for your support and we look forward to seeing you there and we truly hope you enjoy the program.

If you have a ticket (s) and are unable to make the event please pass your ticket (s) on to someone else.
Ms. Holloway will have a book signing at 6:00 pm that evening.

Please fill free to share this link or pass the word.

Sincerely,
Sandy

March 2 at 10:54am

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/185911_10150102974209141_666884140_6522422_6126071_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: IBE on March 14, 2011, 01:22:29 AM
Hi Monkey Family,

Been going through PTSD since Dec. storm damage. So what's going on? Joran still not charged? Any court updates? Keep up the Good Works!

TIA Love ya ::MonkeySkate::  IBE


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 14, 2011, 02:24:51 AM
Hi Monkey Family,

Been going through PTSD since Dec. storm damage. So what's going on? Joran still not charged? Any court updates? Keep up the Good Works!

TIA Love ya ::MonkeySkate::  IBE

Hi IBE, I'm so sorry you're having problems.  :smt056 I will pray that things will be better for you soon.

According to the recent news Joran is going to try for a temporary insanity plea in Peru which could result in a sentence of only 3-5 years...instead of the 30+ we all know he should get.  We've also posted recent articles that say the FBI will be in Peru as early as tomorrow to get a copy of the hard drive from Joran's laptop to look for anything connected to Natalee!

I went to get the link to add to my message to you about 2NJSons_Mom, but I see that you've found it already.  Hugs to you...we're all so sad.   :smt022

 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 14, 2011, 02:39:07 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Valentine%20Avatar/2nj71.gif)

::MonkeyAngel::
2NJSons_Mom
Will always be here
In our hearts



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 14, 2011, 02:45:45 AM
Thank you again CBB, for the beautiful tribute.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 14, 2011, 02:46:43 AM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Grad00o9.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanyFlores_takentoosoon-1.jpg)

Justice for Natalee and Stephany!


 ::MonkeyJustice::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 14, 2011, 04:10:34 AM
Thank you again CBB, for the beautiful tribute.   ::MonkeyAngel::

It was a joint effort with you, TM, so thank YOU!   ::MonkeyKiss::   Hugs to all the monkeys on this thread that are still shaken and numb. I'm with you.   ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 14, 2011, 04:16:07 AM
http://elcomercio.pe/lima/726594/noticia-caso-van-der-sloot-fbi-accedera-archivos-holandes


Van der Sloot Case: FBI files accessed from Dutch

 ::snipping2::

The Peruvian justice shall present a copy of computer disk Dutch Joran Van der Sloot to FBI agents investigating the disappearance occurred in 2005 in Aruba of American Natalee Holloway to whom he was connected.

The head of the research division of the police high-tech, Oscar Gonzalez, said that after obtaining permission of the judiciary will be given to the agents a copy of the disc next week.

The Dutch lawyer, Max Altez, confirmed the court decision without providing further details.

The police chief said the FBI agents "seeking information relevant to the process followed to Van der Sloot in the U.S. for the case of Natalee Holloway" and added that the Dutch computer confiscated the suspect, "there is additional information seems to be of interest. "

 ::snipping2::

That would be almost too good to be true, but Joran is that stupid. Maybe his musings about the 5th anniversary of Natalee's disappearance are there, or maybe a letter to his deceased Father. Well? I can hope and excercise my vivid imagination, can't I?    ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 14, 2011, 04:37:15 AM
Thank you again CBB, for the beautiful tribute.   ::MonkeyAngel::

It was a joint effort with you, TM, so thank YOU!   ::MonkeyKiss::   Hugs to all the monkeys on this thread that are still shaken and numb. I'm with you.   ::MonkeyNoNo::



Thanks, CBB, I am with you, too.  I am just waiting for the numb part to kick in, I am definitely shaken.  I miss her dearly.

Love you, I am so glad I said those two words to 2NJ while she was physically here.  Along with her suffering, which she faced  bravely, I am glad she had the knowledge she was loved dearly and deeply.  She is one of a kind.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 14, 2011, 04:47:49 AM
Hi Monkey Family,

Been going through PTSD since Dec. storm damage. So what's going on? Joran still not charged? Any court updates? Keep up the Good Works!

TIA Love ya ::MonkeySkate::  IBE

I am so sorry for what you have been going through.  I have been thinking about you. 

I think we need a weekly roll call.

 :smt056



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on March 14, 2011, 09:18:04 AM


I don't believe one word of Joran's story as to why he murdered Stephany.
It's the typical Joran lie, blame the victim...she was in my business..."she hit me first".  BS!
He's a cold calculating murderer and he thought he'd get away with it again.  It would be anyone's fault but his, and if that didn't work...temporary insanity.  GMAFB!
I don't believe Anita's story about his being set to go into a mental hospital before he left Aruba either, that's going to be his defense for the extortion case.  If by any means those arrangements were made it's because Anita was tipped off about Joran's involvement in extorting Natalee's family, and she thought that would be the way out of it for him.  If Anita really cared about Joran's mental well being she and his POS father would have done something REAL to correct his downward spiral before Natalee ever went to Aruba.  They knew his history better than anyone, and they knew it would only get worse.  Appearances were more important.  Instead they just fed his sense of entitlement, and covered his crimes by any means necessary.  Time in a mental institution to deal with his anger issues wouldn't have looked too good when they planned to ship him off to the U. S. for college now would it.  We've all witnessed how far Anita will go, and encourage others to go to place the blame for her first born murderers crimes anywhere other than where it belongs.  As stated by his attorney at the time of his confession in Peru, Anita seems to be giving the same advice even after another girl has died by his hands.  Sickening, truly sickening! 

jmo

 ::rhino:: ::rhino::

And if Anita had set up anything it would have been a gambling rehab program, not a mental institution.  His gambling addiction could be motive for the murder....money....Anita may actually help establish motive. He learned manipulation from the master.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 14, 2011, 10:01:46 AM
Thank you again CBB, for the beautiful tribute.   ::MonkeyAngel::

It was a joint effort with you, TM, so thank YOU!   ::MonkeyKiss::   Hugs to all the monkeys on this thread that are still shaken and numb. I'm with you.   ::MonkeyNoNo::



Thanks, CBB, I am with you, too.  I am just waiting for the numb part to kick in, I am definitely shaken.  I miss her dearly.

Love you, I am so glad I said those two words to 2NJ while she was physically here.  Along with her suffering, which she faced  bravely, I am glad she had the knowledge she was loved dearly and deeply.  She is one of a kind.


Huge hugs to you both, and to Klaas, San, and Nut.  I love you all, and appreciate you more than you'll ever know.  I don't say that enough.
 ::MonkeyHeart:: ::MonkeyHeart:: ::MonkeyHeart:: ::MonkeyHeart:: ::MonkeyHeart::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 14, 2011, 10:05:39 AM


I don't believe one word of Joran's story as to why he murdered Stephany.
It's the typical Joran lie, blame the victim...she was in my business..."she hit me first".  BS!
He's a cold calculating murderer and he thought he'd get away with it again.  It would be anyone's fault but his, and if that didn't work...temporary insanity.  GMAFB!
I don't believe Anita's story about his being set to go into a mental hospital before he left Aruba either, that's going to be his defense for the extortion case.  If by any means those arrangements were made it's because Anita was tipped off about Joran's involvement in extorting Natalee's family, and she thought that would be the way out of it for him.  If Anita really cared about Joran's mental well being she and his POS father would have done something REAL to correct his downward spiral before Natalee ever went to Aruba.  They knew his history better than anyone, and they knew it would only get worse.  Appearances were more important.  Instead they just fed his sense of entitlement, and covered his crimes by any means necessary.  Time in a mental institution to deal with his anger issues wouldn't have looked too good when they planned to ship him off to the U. S. for college now would it.  We've all witnessed how far Anita will go, and encourage others to go to place the blame for her first born murderers crimes anywhere other than where it belongs.  As stated by his attorney at the time of his confession in Peru, Anita seems to be giving the same advice even after another girl has died by his hands.  Sickening, truly sickening! 

jmo

 ::rhino:: ::rhino::

And if Anita had set up anything it would have been a gambling rehab program, not a mental institution.  His gambling addiction could be motive for the murder....money....Anita may actually help establish motive. He learned manipulation from the master.

Absolutely!   ::rhino::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 14, 2011, 11:41:19 AM
Thank you again CBB, for the beautiful tribute.   ::MonkeyAngel::

It was a joint effort with you, TM, so thank YOU!   ::MonkeyKiss::   Hugs to all the monkeys on this thread that are still shaken and numb. I'm with you.   ::MonkeyNoNo::



Thanks, CBB, I am with you, too.  I am just waiting for the numb part to kick in, I am definitely shaken.  I miss her dearly.

Love you, I am so glad I said those two words to 2NJ while she was physically here.  Along with her suffering, which she faced  bravely, I am glad she had the knowledge she was loved dearly and deeply.  She is one of a kind.


Huge hugs to you both, and to Klaas, San, and Nut.  I love you all, and appreciate you more than you'll ever know.  I don't say that enough.
 ::MonkeyHeart:: ::MonkeyHeart:: ::MonkeyHeart:: ::MonkeyHeart:: ::MonkeyHeart::


Love you, too. 

 ::MonkeyKiss::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: jen3560 on March 14, 2011, 12:57:00 PM
Oh gosh.  I feel just terrible about 2NJ.  Kerm let me know she had passed...........and I just couldn't stop the tears from coming and coming......

That woman was truly loved by many here - and she did so much on the researching end........gheesh.  She gave her heart to Natalee and her family, and helped in so many ways.  She was a dear soul, and I am so saddended by this news. 

Love and my most sincere condolences to her family, and to her Monkey family as well.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 14, 2011, 01:39:17 PM
Oh gosh.  I feel just terrible about 2NJ.  Kerm let me know she had passed...........and I just couldn't stop the tears from coming and coming......

That woman was truly loved by many here - and she did so much on the researching end........gheesh.  She gave her heart to Natalee and her family, and helped in so many ways.  She was a dear soul, and I am so saddended by this news. 

Love and my most sincere condolences to her family, and to her Monkey family as well.

I wondered if you knew, jen, and I'm so glad Kermit let you know.  We will definitely miss her and her dedication to our work here.  I keep thinking maybe there will be times when she'll still help us along the way... 

Hugs to you, it's good to see you although I wish it were under different circumstances. 

I hope all is well!   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 14, 2011, 01:45:46 PM
http://my.hsj.org/Schools/Newspaper/tabid/100/view/frontpage/articleid/422899/newspaperid/3164/Missing_US_student_found_dead_in_Madrid.aspx


Missing US student found dead in Madrid
Monday, March 14, 2011 By GABBY BAUER-Reporter

Police found the body of 22-year-old Austin Taylor Bice in the Manzanares River in Madrid after going missing on the night of February 26. The body was found after part of the river, near the discotheque where Bice was last seen over a week ago, had been drained.

 ::snipping2::

After the family found out the news they hired a team of investigators from The Halo Corporation to help with the search of their son. Bice’s father immediately flew down to Madrid from San Diego along with the investigators.

Friends of the student arranged a campaign that allowed them to put posters of Bice’s name and information around Madrid. The posters said,"Missing. Austin Taylor Bice. U.S. citizen, 22, 1.95 meters tall and 100 kilograms, (6 feet, 5 inches and 220 pounds).”

(http://my.hsj.org/DesktopModules/ASNE/ASNE.Newspapers/ResizeImage.aspx?url=http://s3.amazonaws.com/asnemedia/29d2b56f-4917-440a-bea8-d042e0e08122-952-Spain_Missing_Student_sff_standalone_prod_affiliate_8.jpg&width=300&height=300&format=jpg)

This has not been the first incident where students have gone to other countries and did not come back.
Natalee Holloway was also a US student who went missing in 2005 on a senior class trip to Aruba. The news of Holloway’s disappearance became so well known thanks to her mother Beth Holloway who made a desperate attempt to find out the truth about her daughter. Holloway continues to speak publicly about the dangers of international travel, and also wrote a book, Loving Natalee: a Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith, which was then turned into a movie about a mother’s search for truth and justice.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 14, 2011, 02:18:18 PM
Well it will be interesting to see if that's true. 

http://correoperu.pe/correo/nota.php?txtEdi_id=4&txtSecci_parent=0&txtSecci_id=78&txtNota_id=576168

Google translation:

POLICE TO MEET WITH HIGH-TECH
FBI review of Van der Sloot laptop in Lima
March 13, 2011
       
LIMA | A group of FBI agents come to the capital tomorrow to review the Dutch computer Joran van der Sloot, to find new clues to the American teenager Natalee Holloway, who disappeared in Aruba in 2005. Investigators will meet with officers of the Division of High Technology Research (Divindat) of the Dirincri.

 ::snipping2::

However, your own computer disrupts this version, as it has been determined that at the time of the crime, or even minutes before the laptop was not on.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 14, 2011, 02:26:12 PM
Thank you again CBB, for the beautiful tribute.   ::MonkeyAngel::

It was a joint effort with you, TM, so thank YOU!   ::MonkeyKiss::   Hugs to all the monkeys on this thread that are still shaken and numb. I'm with you.   ::MonkeyNoNo::



Thanks, CBB, I am with you, too.  I am just waiting for the numb part to kick in, I am definitely shaken.  I miss her dearly.

Love you, I am so glad I said those two words to 2NJ while she was physically here.  Along with her suffering, which she faced  bravely, I am glad she had the knowledge she was loved dearly and deeply.  She is one of a kind.


Huge hugs to you both, and to Klaas, San, and Nut.  I love you all, and appreciate you more than you'll ever know.  I don't say that enough.
 ::MonkeyHeart:: ::MonkeyHeart:: ::MonkeyHeart:: ::MonkeyHeart:: ::MonkeyHeart::


Oh my goodness...I knew I'd leave someone out.   :2redman:

MuffyBee, please forgive my over site... I love and appreciate you too!   ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyHeart:: ::MonkeyKiss::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: jen3560 on March 14, 2011, 04:29:26 PM
Oh gosh.  I feel just terrible about 2NJ.  Kerm let me know she had passed...........and I just couldn't stop the tears from coming and coming......

That woman was truly loved by many here - and she did so much on the researching end........gheesh.  She gave her heart to Natalee and her family, and helped in so many ways.  She was a dear soul, and I am so saddended by this news. 

Love and my most sincere condolences to her family, and to her Monkey family as well.

I wondered if you knew, jen, and I'm so glad Kermit let you know.  We will definitely miss her and her dedication to our work here.  I keep thinking maybe there will be times when she'll still help us along the way...  Hugs to you, it's good to see you although I wish it were under different circumstances. 

I hope all is well!   ::MonkeyKiss::

Well, she's with Natalee now, so no doubt they have loving arms for each other.

I miss all you Monkeys, and I also wish me being able to post today was due to better circumstances.

Thank you TxMom, yes - all is well with us.  If you can call a 7 month old crawling and standing *well*.  Yikes!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: can on March 14, 2011, 04:45:59 PM
Oh gosh.  I feel just terrible about 2NJ.  Kerm let me know she had passed...........and I just couldn't stop the tears from coming and coming......

That woman was truly loved by many here - and she did so much on the researching end........gheesh.  She gave her heart to Natalee and her family, and helped in so many ways.  She was a dear soul, and I am so saddended by this news. 

Love and my most sincere condolences to her family, and to her Monkey family as well.

I wondered if you knew, jen, and I'm so glad Kermit let you know.  We will definitely miss her and her dedication to our work here.  I keep thinking maybe there will be times when she'll still help us along the way...  Hugs to you, it's good to see you although I wish it were under different circumstances. 

I hope all is well!   ::MonkeyKiss::

Well, she's with Natalee now, so no doubt they have loving arms for each other.

I miss all you Monkeys, and I also wish me being able to post today was due to better circumstances.

Thank you TxMom, yes - all is well with us.  If you can call a 7 month old crawling and standing *well*.  Yikes!

Jen, I'm sorry that you are posting under such sad circumstances.
Have been wondering if you knew, and wondering about your little boy.
My goodness, he's progressing well, and keeping Mommy busy.  ::MonkeySlide::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 14, 2011, 08:18:23 PM
Oh gosh.  I feel just terrible about 2NJ.  Kerm let me know she had passed...........and I just couldn't stop the tears from coming and coming......

That woman was truly loved by many here - and she did so much on the researching end........gheesh.  She gave her heart to Natalee and her family, and helped in so many ways.  She was a dear soul, and I am so saddended by this news. 

Love and my most sincere condolences to her family, and to her Monkey family as well.

I wondered if you knew, jen, and I'm so glad Kermit let you know.  We will definitely miss her and her dedication to our work here.  I keep thinking maybe there will be times when she'll still help us along the way...  Hugs to you, it's good to see you although I wish it were under different circumstances. 

I hope all is well!   ::MonkeyKiss::

Well, she's with Natalee now, so no doubt they have loving arms for each other.

I miss all you Monkeys, and I also wish me being able to post today was due to better circumstances.

Thank you TxMom, yes - all is well with us.  If you can call a 7 month old crawling and standing *well*.  Yikes!

That's great news jen!  I remember those days very well...made me smile!   :smt052


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 14, 2011, 11:54:05 PM
http://elcomercio.pe/lima/727577/noticia-pnp-entrego-al-fbi-copia-disco-duro-laptop-van-der-sloot

Google translation:

PNP gave the FBI a copy of the laptop hard drive Van der Sloot

This was announced by chief of the division of high-tech research of Police , Oscar González

Monday March 14, 2011 - 5:07 pm

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 12:04:54 AM
THERE IS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT SEEMS TO BE OF INTEREST!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 12:06:43 AM
I'm wondering if Joran had any correspondence with the Kalpoes since the Kalpoe trial is coming up?  Could Joran have been coaching them as to what to say?


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 15, 2011, 12:15:27 AM
THERE IS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT SEEMS TO BE OF INTEREST!
::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 12:41:28 AM
A couple documents were just made available in the Kalpoe vs. Dr. Phil as pertaining to the out of state deposition that has been granted.

Opposition filed by Dr. Phil

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5213/5527909519_bfcac1530c_o.jpg)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5299/5527909533_59b16c48b6_b.jpg)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5173/5528499792_a233165858_b.jpg)

Order filed by the court (I have redacted Beth's address and the address where the deposition is to be taken)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5093/5527909589_440b4752cc_b.jpg)


There is one more document, the Kalpoe's argument for needing the deposition but I need to read through it first.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 12:49:17 AM
This was their argument that the judge did approve.  I'm leaving out pages that don't really say anything besides state case law history etc:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5294/5527957519_d67cdac9c2_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 15, 2011, 12:55:39 AM
I hate legal jargon, but I think the papers say that Dr. Phil's side is strongly opposed to another continuance and that deposing Beth (as apparently the K2 attys want to do) would/could cause K2's side to ask for another delay. Dr. Phil's side has no objection to Beth testifying at trial but opposes the taking of her deposition before April 11th.


It looks to me that the judge has authorized Plaintiff's attys to take Beth's deposition.


I think that's what the document says, anyway. Thanks Klaas, for these!!   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 12:58:44 AM
I hate legal jargon, but I think the papers say that Dr. Phil's side is strongly opposed to another continuance and that deposing Beth (as apparently the K2 attys want to do) would/could cause K2's side to ask for another delay. Dr. Phil's side has no objection to Beth testifying at trial but opposes the taking of her deposition before April 11th.


It looks to me that the judge has authorized Plaintiff's attys to take Beth's deposition.


I think that's what the document says, anyway. Thanks Klaas, for these!!   ::MonkeyKiss::


Yes but I believe in the handwriting on the actual ORDER it says something to the affect that it will not delay any hearings in the case.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 15, 2011, 01:11:07 AM
Thank you for posting the documents Klaas!  ::MonkeyKiss::
And thank you to the anonymous monkey who paid for them!   ::MonkeyKiss::

Am I understanding correctly that they have just now, at this late date...decided that they need a deposition from Beth?

 ::MonkeyConfused::  ::MonkeyNoNo::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 01:14:22 AM
This is what the handwritten part on the ORDER for out of state Deposition says (I think):

"Based upon Plaintiff’s counsel’s representation in the moving (?) papers, this deposition WILL NOT AFFECT any council precedures or schedules already in place.  Plaintiff is ordered to follow all Alabama requirements for the proper noticing and service upon the proposed deponent for any such deposition."




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 01:14:54 AM
Thank you for posting the documents Klaas!  ::MonkeyKiss::
And thank you to the anonymous monkey who paid for them!   ::MonkeyKiss::

Am I understanding correctly that they have just now, at this late date...decided that they need a deposition from Beth?

 ::MonkeyConfused::  ::MonkeyNoNo::




STALL STALL STALL


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 01:27:47 AM
Nite all  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 15, 2011, 01:31:15 AM
Thank you for posting the documents Klaas!  ::MonkeyKiss::
And thank you to the anonymous monkey who paid for them!   ::MonkeyKiss::

Am I understanding correctly that they have just now, at this late date...decided that they need a deposition from Beth?

 ::MonkeyConfused::  ::MonkeyNoNo::




STALL STALL STALL

That's what I was thinking too. 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 15, 2011, 01:32:07 AM
Nite all  ::MonkeyAngel::

Nite Klaas!   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 15, 2011, 02:15:52 AM
Beth's testimony will not resolve the issue of the "differences" on the taped interview (Skeeters and Aruba/Netherland).  IIRC, from the document that I read, that the Defendents have testimony about the disputed part of the tape--she did or she didn't.  The deposition is a waste of time.  Let the trial begin. ::MonkeyCool::

jmo


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 15, 2011, 02:32:43 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_bilde.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/StephanyFlores_ll1.jpg)

Justice for Natalee and Stephany!


 ::MonkeyJustice::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: can on March 15, 2011, 08:02:57 AM
Thanks Klaas and generous donor!  ::MonkeyGavel::

Klaas, is it required that a witness in a civil trial, must be deposed first?

The plaintiff claims the taking of Beth's deposition will not further delay the hearings.   What happens if the depo is not taken before trial (for whatever reason)?  Can attempts be made during trial? 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 15, 2011, 09:08:40 AM
Oh gosh.  I feel just terrible about 2NJ.  Kerm let me know she had passed...........and I just couldn't stop the tears from coming and coming......

That woman was truly loved by many here - and she did so much on the researching end........gheesh.  She gave her heart to Natalee and her family, and helped in so many ways.  She was a dear soul, and I am so saddended by this news. 

Love and my most sincere condolences to her family, and to her Monkey family as well.

I wondered if you knew, jen, and I'm so glad Kermit let you know.  We will definitely miss her and her dedication to our work here.  I keep thinking maybe there will be times when she'll still help us along the way...  Hugs to you, it's good to see you although I wish it were under different circumstances. 

I hope all is well!   ::MonkeyKiss::

Well, she's with Natalee now, so no doubt they have loving arms for each other.

I miss all you Monkeys, and I also wish me being able to post today was due to better circumstances.

Thank you TxMom, yes - all is well with us.  If you can call a 7 month old crawling and standing *well*.  Yikes!

That's great news jen!  I remember those days very well...made me smile!   :smt052

Me, too!

 ::MonkeyCool::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 10:05:01 AM
New front page post - TRIBUTE to 2NJ:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/03/15/scared-monkeys-says-good-bye-to-one-of-their-own-2njsons_mom-passed-away-to-our-friend-rest-in-peace/

Scared Monkeys Says Good Bye to One of Their Own … 2NJSONS_MOM Passed Away, To Our Friend, Rest in Peace


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 10:32:33 AM
Thanks Klaas and generous donor!  ::MonkeyGavel::

Klaas, is it required that a witness in a civil trial, must be deposed first?

The plaintiff claims the taking of Beth's deposition will not further delay the hearings.   What happens if the depo is not taken before trial (for whatever reason)?  Can attempts be made during trial? 

The judge says Beth's deposition will not delay the hearings, period. 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 10:33:54 AM
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/03/15/report-data-on-joran-van-der-sloots-computer-of-interest-to/ (http://www.aolnews.com/2011/03/15/report-data-on-joran-van-der-sloots-computer-of-interest-to/)

Report: Data on van der Sloot's Computer 'of Interest' to FBI
Mar 15, 2011 – 9:54 AM

Peruvian authorities say they provided the FBI with a copy of a laptop hard drive belonging to Joran van der Sloot, the imprisoned Dutch native charged with killing a Peruvian woman and extorting money from the mother of missing U.S. teen Natalee Holloway.

FBI agents met Monday with agents from the Peruvian National Police High Technology Crime Division, according to Lima newspaper El Comercio. The agents were provided with a copy of the entire contents of the computer hard drive that was found in van der Sloot's possession at the time of his arrest. The FBI is reportedly searching for information on the disappearance of Holloway and the alleged extortion of money from the Holloway family.

Oscar Gonzales, head of the High Technology Crime Division, told El Comercio that preliminary forensic analysis of the seized data "seems to be of interest." He did not elaborate.

Calls by AOL News to the FBI's Birmingham, Ala., field office were not immediately returned.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Blue Moon on March 15, 2011, 11:33:15 AM
This is what the handwritten part on the ORDER for out of state Deposition says (I think):

"Based upon Plaintiff’s counsel’s representation in the moving (?) papers, this deposition WILL NOT AFFECT any council precedures or schedules already in place.  Plaintiff is ordered to follow all Alabama requirements for the proper noticing and service upon the proposed deponent for any such deposition."




Thanks goes out to our "friend" that supplies these reports to us.

I think you are right, Klaas, about no delays for Beths deposition.  STALL is right.  They need to let the games begin.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Blue Moon on March 15, 2011, 11:35:06 AM
New front page post - TRIBUTE to 2NJ:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/03/15/scared-monkeys-says-good-bye-to-one-of-their-own-2njsons_mom-passed-away-to-our-friend-rest-in-peace/

Scared Monkeys Says Good Bye to One of Their Own … 2NJSONS_MOM Passed Away, To Our Friend, Rest in Peace


Beautiful tribute.  Thanks Red and Klaas (and all our beloved moderators)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 15, 2011, 11:46:17 AM
New front page post - TRIBUTE to 2NJ:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/03/15/scared-monkeys-says-good-bye-to-one-of-their-own-2njsons_mom-passed-away-to-our-friend-rest-in-peace/

Scared Monkeys Says Good Bye to One of Their Own … 2NJSONS_MOM Passed Away, To Our Friend, Rest in Peace


Beautiful tribute.  Thanks Red and Klaas (and all our beloved moderators)

Blue Moon, it is a beautiful tribute.  She is a beautiful spirit.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 11:58:43 AM
TMZ!

http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/15/dr-phil-natalie-holloway-the-dr-phil-show-beth-holloway-deepak-satish-kalpoe-defamation-deposition/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/15/dr-phil-natalie-holloway-the-dr-phil-show-beth-holloway-deepak-satish-kalpoe-defamation-deposition/)

Dr. Phil Loses Battle in Natalee Holloway Case

3/15/2011 6:51 AM PDT by TMZ Staff 

Dr. Phil just lost his bid to block Natalee Holloway's mom from testifying about what happened behind the scenes when "The Dr. Phil Show" aired an exposé implicating 2 men in Natalee's death.

Deepak and Satish Kalpoe are suing Dr. Phil and CBS for defamation, claiming the show "was deceptively clothed as an investigative piece looking into the disappearance of [Natalee]" but was "in reality an abhorrent example of manufactured media sensationalism at its worst."

 ::snipping2::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 12:00:41 PM
HEY TMZ!  - READ THIS!

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5093/5527909589_440b4752cc_b.jpg)

This is what the handwritten part on the ORDER for out of state Deposition says (I think):

"Based upon Plaintiff’s counsel’s representation in the moving (?) papers, this deposition WILL NOT AFFECT any council precedures or schedules already in place.  Plaintiff is ordered to follow all Alabama requirements for the proper noticing and service upon the proposed deponent for any such deposition."


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 15, 2011, 12:16:48 PM
I hate legal jargon, but I think the papers say that Dr. Phil's side is strongly opposed to another continuance and that deposing Beth (as apparently the K2 attys want to do) would/could cause K2's side to ask for another delay. Dr. Phil's side has no objection to Beth testifying at trial but opposes the taking of her deposition before April 11th.


It looks to me that the judge has authorized Plaintiff's attys to take Beth's deposition.


I think that's what the document says, anyway. Thanks Klaas, for these!!   ::MonkeyKiss::


CBB ... I agree.  I now know how my grown kids feel when I relate an event with too much detail and ... they plead "Mom .. get to the point".

Klaas ... thanks for pointing the documents.

Janet




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 15, 2011, 12:25:55 PM
TMZ!

http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/15/dr-phil-natalie-holloway-the-dr-phil-show-beth-holloway-deepak-satish-kalpoe-defamation-deposition/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/15/dr-phil-natalie-holloway-the-dr-phil-show-beth-holloway-deepak-satish-kalpoe-defamation-deposition/)

Dr. Phil Loses Battle in Natalee Holloway Case

3/15/2011 6:51 AM PDT by TMZ Staff 

Dr. Phil just lost his bid to block Natalee Holloway's mom from testifying about what happened behind the scenes when "The Dr. Phil Show" aired an exposé implicating 2 men in Natalee's death.

Deepak and Satish Kalpoe are suing Dr. Phil and CBS for defamation, claiming the show "was deceptively clothed as an investigative piece looking into the disappearance of [Natalee]" but was "in reality an abhorrent example of manufactured media sensationalism at its worst."

 ::snipping2::



Thanks Klass.

Janet


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 15, 2011, 12:31:29 PM
New front page post - TRIBUTE to 2NJ:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/03/15/scared-monkeys-says-good-bye-to-one-of-their-own-2njsons_mom-passed-away-to-our-friend-rest-in-peace/

Scared Monkeys Says Good Bye to One of Their Own … 2NJSONS_MOM Passed Away, To Our Friend, Rest in Peace


Thanks Klaas.  Thanks Red.

Janet


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 15, 2011, 12:46:35 PM
I had felt that info from Joran's computer would not be turned over to the FBI without a challenge from the Aruban/Dutch "powers that be" and/or Joran's attorney.

I am thankful I was wrong.

Janet

++++++

FBI gets van der Sloot laptop info
Published: 5:28 am
Updated: 9:38 am


Birmingham, Al (CBS42)  The FBI was given a copy of the files of Joran van der Sloot's laptop...but what clues will that hold to the fate of Natalee Holloway?

The Lima newspaper El Commercio reports that the Peruvian National Police (PNP) gave FBI agents a copy of the hard drive Monday afternoon.  Oscar Gonzales, head of the PNP high tech division said the Americans are interested not only in Natalee's disappearance but also information about the alleged extortion of the Holloway family in 2010.

Gonzales said the computer held "additional information that seems to be of interest."

<snipped>

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/FBI-gets-van-der-Sloot-laptop-info/uqymhtZn8kiXT-X25wuaOg.cspx


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: can on March 15, 2011, 01:27:18 PM
Thanks Klaas and generous donor!  ::MonkeyGavel::

Klaas, is it required that a witness in a civil trial, must be deposed first?

The plaintiff claims the taking of Beth's deposition will not further delay the hearings.   What happens if the depo is not taken before trial (for whatever reason)?  Can attempts be made during trial? 

The judge says Beth's deposition will not delay the hearings, period. 

Thanks Klaas.   



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 15, 2011, 02:09:28 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.24ora.com/curacao/28952-tripulante-di-carnival-miracle-perdi.html

Papiamentu/Google Spanish translation:

lost crew of Carnival Miracle

tuesday, 15 march 2011 13:00

the ship carnival miracle Owing to arrive aruba missing one employee. Owing to leave the boat for of Curacao and Aruba come. the person is one Felipinas of alarededor of 47 anja. Have past cu indication lever Owing to ship at aruba curacao But Not Assure Owing to Owing to arrive. Owing to Happen What Do Not known. 
::snipping2::
in short time is of three person board of cruiser is cu cu lose is after the exit of for of curacao.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 02:35:52 PM
TMZ UPDATE (maybe they are reading here, lol):

http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/15/dr-phil-natalie-holloway-the-dr-phil-show-beth-holloway-deepak-satish-kalpoe-defamation-deposition/

UPDATE:  Dr. Phil's lawyers tell TMZ ... they have no problem with Beth Holloway's deposition ... they just don't want to delay their motion to throw out the case.  The judge agreed with Phil's attorneys, ruling although Beth's depo was fair game, it would not delay Phil's motion to dismiss the case.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 15, 2011, 02:40:55 PM
TMZ UPDATE (maybe they are reading here, lol):

http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/15/dr-phil-natalie-holloway-the-dr-phil-show-beth-holloway-deepak-satish-kalpoe-defamation-deposition/

UPDATE:  Dr. Phil's lawyers tell TMZ ... they have no problem with Beth Holloway's deposition ... they just don't want to delay their motion to throw out the case.  The judge agreed with Phil's attorneys, ruling although Beth's depo was fair game, it would not delay Phil's motion to dismiss the case.

 ::MonkeyGavel::

Thanks for pointing them in the right direction Klaas!   ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 15, 2011, 02:51:36 PM
TMZ UPDATE (maybe they are reading here, lol):

http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/15/dr-phil-natalie-holloway-the-dr-phil-show-beth-holloway-deepak-satish-kalpoe-defamation-deposition/

UPDATE:  Dr. Phil's lawyers tell TMZ ... they have no problem with Beth Holloway's deposition ... they just don't want to delay their motion to throw out the case.  The judge agreed with Phil's attorneys, ruling although Beth's depo was fair game, it would not delay Phil's motion to dismiss the case.

Somehow I believe that Beth's deposition is another delay tatic that will move the trial date up again.  I hope I am wrong.

When it is considered that case documents requested by Phil McGraw's attorneys were never forthcoming ... I cannot comprehend why the judge has not dismissed the case.

Janet

+++++

A SWORD AND A SHIELD

Holloway Case: New Kalpoe Documents
Friday, September 14, 2007


JOHN KELLY, FAMILY'S ATTORNEY: I believe David Koch (ph), one of the attorneys for the Kalpoes actually signed a declaration at the court indicating that even if the court ordered the documents be turned over, they were not going to turn them over, which was sort of, for lack of a better word, arrogant on his part. The court did not necessarily like that.

But I can't see them both using the courts as a sword and then a shield. They can't bring this action, they can't seek damages and not obey the orders of the court and expect their case to go forward.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296798,00.html




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 15, 2011, 02:54:47 PM

Ribbit


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Kermit on March 15, 2011, 02:58:05 PM
Freebirds individual watched Joran logging in at Freebirds and at SM.
Creature of habit.


Domain Name asianet.co.th ? (Thailand)
IP Address 61.90.249.# (Rangsit University)
ISP True Internet Co.
Location Continent : Asia
Country : Thailand (Facts)
State/Region : Pathum Thani
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IP Address 61.90.224
July 27
Krung Thep Thailand

One day after we did the Switched cars story:

Reply #51 on: July 10, 2008, 09:49:25 AM
Here is the latest from Natalee's Freebirds:
Sanitizing the Vehicle ~ Too Little Too Late, Or Bait and Switch?
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=615.40

at ScardMonkeys.net reading that document

ON
Jul 11 2008 9:56:14 am ** Bangkok
IP Address 61.90.224.#

Jul 12 2008 11:29:58 am ** Bangkok
IP Address 203.144.142
Time of Visit Jul 12 2008 11:29:58 am
Last Page View Jul 12 2008 11:53:36 am
Visit Length 23 minutes 38 seconds

AND
Bangkok watching Scared Monkeys closely today !!
Middle of the night in Bangkok


Jul 17, 2008 11:19:38 am ** Bangkok
IP Address 61.90.224.#

July 21, 2008
IP Address 124.121.141

Jul 22 2008 11:21:57 am ** Bangkok
IP Address 61.90.224.#
thread about body in bag p. 35


July 23, 2008 8:54:09 am ** Bangkok
IP Address 61.90.224.#

Jul 24 2008 1:02:59 pm ** Bangkok
PI Address 125.25.29.

Jul 25 2008 9:20:06 am ** Bangkok
IP Address 203.144.142


Domain Name asianet.co.th ? (Thailand)
IP Address 61.90.194.# (Infrastructure ADSL Bizpack-lite Service of True C)
ISP True Internet Co.
Location Continent : Asia
Country : Thailand (Facts)
State/Region : Krung Thep
City : Bangkok
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en-us
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he is a creature of habit. always shows up during the same 2 hour time period.

Domain Name asianet.co.th ? (Thailand)
IP Address 124.120.11.# (True Internet Co.)
ISP True Internet Co.
Location Continent : Asia
Country : Thailand (Facts)
State/Region : Krung Thep
City : Bangkok
Lat/Long : 13.75, 100.5167 (Map)
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en-gb
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---------------

Here is the page he got to SM from, it's on a Thai website.....

What goes around comes around …
Joran Van der Sloot may have found a way to con his way out of a crime in Aruba with a Joran_vander_SlootHellcomplicit, inept and corrupt system in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway; however, he may have bitten off more than even he can get away with in Bangkok, Thailand.Peter R. de Vries, Dutch crime reporter, showed images Sunday night on his TV show of Joran Van der Sloot allegedly recruiting Thai girls to work in the sex industry in Europe. It appears that Judicial authorities in Thailand have requested copies of the images of Joran Van der Sloot.
ตามไปดูฉบับเต็มได้ค่ะ (ต้องขอโทษด้วยวีดีโอเป็นภาษาดัตช์นะคะ)
http://scaredmonkeys.com/category/joran-van-der-sloot/



And lookie who was back:

Domain Name asianet.co.th ? (Thailand)
IP Address 58.8.15.# (True Internet Co.)
ISP True Internet Co.
Location Continent : Asia
Country : Thailand (Facts)
State/Region : Krung Thep
City : Bangkok
Lat/Long : 13.75, 100.5167 (Map)

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Kermit on March 15, 2011, 02:58:57 PM

Ribbit

Hi-ho Miss Tamikosmom.
 ::piggy::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 15, 2011, 03:01:44 PM
HEY TMZ!  - READ THIS!

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5093/5527909589_440b4752cc_b.jpg)

This is what the handwritten part on the ORDER for out of state Deposition says (I think):

"Based upon Plaintiff’s counsel’s representation in the moving (?) papers, this deposition WILL NOT AFFECT any council precedures or schedules already in place.  Plaintiff is ordered to follow all Alabama requirements for the proper noticing and service upon the proposed deponent for any such deposition."

Klaas could be the roving reporter for virtually anyone when it comes to Natalee's case! (and most other cases too!)   ::MonkeyDance::

Well, all I can say is that the K2 attys might need a pair of speed skates to get this accomplished before April 11th. I'd venture to say that if Beth doesn't "choose" to be served legal notice, she can avoid it, and even if she is served, she's a busy woman with a busy schedule.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Kermit on March 15, 2011, 03:15:54 PM
Domain Name vtr.net ? (Network)
IP Address 200.120.143.# (VTR Banda Ancha S.A.)
ISP VTR Banda Ancha S.A.
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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 03:18:49 PM
WOW Kermit.  What day did he get picked up?  I forget.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 15, 2011, 03:20:33 PM
WOW Kermit.  What day did he get picked up?  I forget.

I think it was later that day irrc.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 15, 2011, 03:21:22 PM
WOW Kermit.  What day did he get picked up?  I forget.

I think it was later that day iirc.   ::MonkeyCool::

correcting typo...


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 03:27:15 PM
WOW Kermit.  What day did he get picked up?  I forget.

http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/timeline-joran-van-der-sloot-stephany-flores

Joran van der Sloot first hit the news in 2005, in connection with the disappearance of the US high school graduate Natalee Holloway. This week, he confessed to the murder of Peruvian woman Stephany Flores. Here’s an overview of the recent events.

Wednesday 2 June
Joran van der Sloot (22) is suspected of involvement in the murder of 21-year-old Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez in Peru. Her body is found in a hotel room, booked in his name, in the capital Lima. She is thought to have died on 30 May. That is exactly five years after the disappearance of Natalee Holloway on the Caribbean island of Aruba, a case in which Van der Sloot has always been the chief suspect, but which has never been solved. Van der Sloot, who was in Lima for a poker tournament, is now on the run.

Two Peruvians state they were paid 500 euros to take Van der Sloot to the Chilean border. It’s thought he’s staying in Arica, a town in northern Chile just 18 kilometres from the border.

Thursday 3 June
Following a hunt by Chilean police, Van der Sloot is arrested while travelling in a taxi from the coastal town of Vina del Mar to the capital Santiago. He is taken to Santiago to await an international arrest warrant issued by Peru.

Friday 4 June
Van der Sloot is flown back to Arica and handed over to the Peruvian authorities.

A prosecutor in the US state of Alabama charges Van der Sloot with extortion. He is said to have asked the mother of Natalee Holloway for 250,000 dollars, in exchange for details about her disappearance.

At the request of US justice officials, police in the Netherlands raid the Hulshort home of Dutchman Jaap Amesz – better known as ‘Terror Jaap’ after his appearance on the TV programme The Golden Cage. Jaap Amesz interviewed Van der Sloot about Natalee Holloway’s disappearance in 2009 and is thought to still be in contact with him. The police seize computers and mobile phones.

Saturday 5 June
After a 20-hour car journey, Van der Sloot arrives in Lima. He is officially placed under arrest and charged with the murder of Stephany Flores.

Sunday 6 June
Van der Sloot is displayed before the Peruvian press. Images taken by security cameras in the hotel where he stayed are released, as well as pictures from his first interrogation. He denies any involvement in the murder.

Tuesday 8 June
Peruvian media and US television news channel CNN report that Van der Sloot has confessed to the murder of Stephany Flores. This is later confirmed by the Peruvian authorities. He is said to have killed her on impulse after finding her in his hotel room looking at his laptop computer, on which was stored information about the Holloway case.

Wednesday 9 June
A Colombian newspaper reports that Colombian police are also investigating Van der Sloot’s movements, to determine whether or not he was involved in the disappearance of two girls in the capital Bogotá, at the beginning of May. He was reportedly spotted in various casinos in the city in the company of young girls.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 15, 2011, 03:29:05 PM
Still can't help but wonder if Anita's cousin that lives in Santiago assisted him in any way.  I think he was headed there for a reason. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1103384831

From the video of his backpack items...

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/06062010_Santiago.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 15, 2011, 03:53:28 PM
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 ::MonkeyShocked::

Chilean Police Detain Van der Sloot in Peru Murder

Published June 03, 2010


Chilean police have detained Joran van der Sloot, the longtime suspect in the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, as the chief suspect in the murder of a Peruvian woman who was found dead in his hotel room in Lima.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/02/report-natalee-holloway-suspect-sought-murder-peru/


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 04:33:36 PM
Right Janet - so he logs onto the forum early in the morning, the same day he is detained by Chilean police.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 15, 2011, 04:37:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6uzAB54GdQ

Uploaded by CalBingham on Nov 8, 2010
A clip from a scene in Valentijn Van Der Sloot's film "Employee of the Month" where the character (left) is supposed to smash a coffee pot onto his co-worker's head (right).

We were all excited about this scene with a breakaway glass coffee pot so most of the crew pulled out their phones to take video of it. From what you can see, it didn't turn out the way we thought it would.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 15, 2011, 04:50:58 PM
TMZ!

http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/15/dr-phil-natalie-holloway-the-dr-phil-show-beth-holloway-deepak-satish-kalpoe-defamation-deposition/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/15/dr-phil-natalie-holloway-the-dr-phil-show-beth-holloway-deepak-satish-kalpoe-defamation-deposition/)

Dr. Phil Loses Battle in Natalee Holloway Case

3/15/2011 6:51 AM PDT by TMZ Staff 

Dr. Phil just lost his bid to block Natalee Holloway's mom from testifying about what happened behind the scenes when "The Dr. Phil Show" aired an exposé implicating 2 men in Natalee's death.

Deepak and Satish Kalpoe are suing Dr. Phil and CBS for defamation, claiming the show "was deceptively clothed as an investigative piece looking into the disappearance of [Natalee]" but was "in reality an abhorrent example of manufactured media sensationalism at its worst."

 ::snipping2::




UPDATE:  Dr. Phil's lawyers tell TMZ ... they have no problem with Beth Holloway's deposition ... they just don't want to delay their motion to throw out the case.  The judge agreed with Phil's attorneys, ruling although Beth's depo was fair game, it would not delay Phil's motion to dismiss the case.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on March 15, 2011, 04:57:43 PM
Right Janet - so he logs onto the forum early in the morning, the same day he is detained by Chilean police.
Which just might be the "information" from Joran's laptop that might be "of interest" to our FBI. (I hope that's the tip of the iceberg!!)  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 15, 2011, 05:00:38 PM
I haven't found a news article about Beth's speaking event at SAU Tech last night, still looking... ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=666884140&sk=wall

(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/187423_666884140_1801330_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 15, 2011, 05:02:55 PM
TMZ!

http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/15/dr-phil-natalie-holloway-the-dr-phil-show-beth-holloway-deepak-satish-kalpoe-defamation-deposition/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/15/dr-phil-natalie-holloway-the-dr-phil-show-beth-holloway-deepak-satish-kalpoe-defamation-deposition/)

Dr. Phil Loses Battle in Natalee Holloway Case

3/15/2011 6:51 AM PDT by TMZ Staff 

Dr. Phil just lost his bid to block Natalee Holloway's mom from testifying about what happened behind the scenes when "The Dr. Phil Show" aired an exposé implicating 2 men in Natalee's death.

Deepak and Satish Kalpoe are suing Dr. Phil and CBS for defamation, claiming the show "was deceptively clothed as an investigative piece looking into the disappearance of [Natalee]" but was "in reality an abhorrent example of manufactured media sensationalism at its worst."

 ::snipping2::




UPDATE:  Dr. Phil's lawyers tell TMZ ... they have no problem with Beth Holloway's deposition ... they just don't want to delay their motion to throw out the case.  The judge agreed with Phil's attorneys, ruling although Beth's depo was fair game, it would not delay Phil's motion to dismiss the case.



I'm sorry, Klaas.  I just saw that you had already posted the "update" from TMZ.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 05:04:10 PM
I haven't found a news article about Beth's speaking event at SAU Tech last night, still looking... ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=666884140&sk=wall

(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/187423_666884140_1801330_n.jpg)

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=139753542751441&index=1


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 05:06:57 PM
Magnolia - never be sorry for posting the news.  Who cares if it's a duplicate, I don't.  I know I don't always have time to read back myself so I'm always posting duplicates (just ask TM, lol).


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 15, 2011, 05:08:37 PM
TMZ!

http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/15/dr-phil-natalie-holloway-the-dr-phil-show-beth-holloway-deepak-satish-kalpoe-defamation-deposition/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/15/dr-phil-natalie-holloway-the-dr-phil-show-beth-holloway-deepak-satish-kalpoe-defamation-deposition/)

Dr. Phil Loses Battle in Natalee Holloway Case

3/15/2011 6:51 AM PDT by TMZ Staff 

Dr. Phil just lost his bid to block Natalee Holloway's mom from testifying about what happened behind the scenes when "The Dr. Phil Show" aired an exposé implicating 2 men in Natalee's death.

Deepak and Satish Kalpoe are suing Dr. Phil and CBS for defamation, claiming the show "was deceptively clothed as an investigative piece looking into the disappearance of [Natalee]" but was "in reality an abhorrent example of manufactured media sensationalism at its worst."

 ::snipping2::




UPDATE:  Dr. Phil's lawyers tell TMZ ... they have no problem with Beth Holloway's deposition ... they just don't want to delay their motion to throw out the case.  The judge agreed with Phil's attorneys, ruling although Beth's depo was fair game, it would not delay Phil's motion to dismiss the case.


The Kalpoes' attorneys have had four years to request a deposition from Beth Holloway.  At what point does the judge say ENOUGH!

When it is implied that proceedings will not be delayed as a result of this request ... it must be assumed that Beth Holloway does not have a personal life ... does not have speaking engagements ... is not in involved in the production of a movie as well as a TV series ....

Janet


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 05:09:31 PM
Last night:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5297/5530371496_8e698b73e8_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 15, 2011, 05:09:45 PM
I haven't found a news article about Beth's speaking event at SAU Tech last night, still looking... ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=666884140&sk=wall

(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/187423_666884140_1801330_n.jpg)


Is that Casa on the right in the purple jacket?


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 15, 2011, 05:15:21 PM
Magnolia - never be sorry for posting the news.  Who cares if it's a duplicate, I don't.  I know I don't always have time to read back myself so I'm always posting duplicates (just ask TM, lol).

If Klaas posts it too, I know I did good!   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 15, 2011, 05:18:49 PM
I haven't found a news article about Beth's speaking event at SAU Tech last night, still looking... ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=666884140&sk=wall

(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/187423_666884140_1801330_n.jpg)


Is that Casa on the right in the purple jacket?

I don't know who the others are, Sandy Neely is far left.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 15, 2011, 05:22:56 PM
I haven't found a news article about Beth's speaking event at SAU Tech last night, still looking... ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=666884140&sk=wall

(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/187423_666884140_1801330_n.jpg)


Is that Casa on the right in the purple jacket?

I don't know who the others are, Sandy Neely is far left.


It looks like Casa to me......in the bigger picture.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 05:23:50 PM
I haven't found a news article about Beth's speaking event at SAU Tech last night, still looking... ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=666884140&sk=wall

(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/187423_666884140_1801330_n.jpg)


Is that Casa on the right in the purple jacket?

I don't know who the others are, Sandy Neely is far left.

I don't think it's Casa, I believe it's this person, Marla Gunnels:

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=139753542751441#!/marla.gunnels (http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=139753542751441#!/marla.gunnels)

(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/49532_1513206628_7330_n.jpg)




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on March 15, 2011, 05:25:12 PM
I hope the laptop shows the correspondence with his mother and DeBie.  I would love accessory charges to be filed.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 15, 2011, 05:26:37 PM
I hope the laptop shows the correspondence with his mother and DeBie.  I would love accessory charges to be filed.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 15, 2011, 05:30:51 PM
I haven't found a news article about Beth's speaking event at SAU Tech last night, still looking... ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=666884140&sk=wall

(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/187423_666884140_1801330_n.jpg)


Is that Casa on the right in the purple jacket?

I don't know who the others are, Sandy Neely is far left.

I don't think it's Casa, I believe it's this person, Marla Gunnels:

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=139753542751441#!/marla.gunnels (http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=139753542751441#!/marla.gunnels)

(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/49532_1513206628_7330_n.jpg)





I think you are right.....again!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 05:34:13 PM
Magnolia - I did think about it being Casa and that's why I checked further and found that woman  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 15, 2011, 05:38:16 PM
Magnolia - I did think about it being Casa and that's why I checked further and found that woman  ::MonkeyCool::

Now what was Casa's connection?  She was a friend of a friend of a cousin?
Or something like that. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 15, 2011, 05:50:19 PM
My DIL just received a text/email? from Sandy Neely.  All went well at last night events.  There was 427 in attendance.  Beth inspired all for approximately 45 minutes.

Janet



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 06:20:38 PM
My DIL just received a text/email? from Sandy Neely.  All went well at last night events.  There was 427 in attendance.  Beth inspired all for approximately 45 minutes.

Janet



Thanks Janet


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 15, 2011, 06:40:18 PM
My DIL just received a text/email? from Sandy Neely.  All went well at last night events.  There was 427 in attendance.  Beth inspired all for approximately 45 minutes.

Janet



Thanks Janet

Klaas

There was nothing to indicate that last night's event would not be anything but a great success but ... a word of affirmation was such a relief.

I may bow and get a Facebook account.

Janet 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 15, 2011, 06:58:41 PM
TMZ!

http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/15/dr-phil-natalie-holloway-the-dr-phil-show-beth-holloway-deepak-satish-kalpoe-defamation-deposition/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/15/dr-phil-natalie-holloway-the-dr-phil-show-beth-holloway-deepak-satish-kalpoe-defamation-deposition/)

Dr. Phil Loses Battle in Natalee Holloway Case

3/15/2011 6:51 AM PDT by TMZ Staff 

Dr. Phil just lost his bid to block Natalee Holloway's mom from testifying about what happened behind the scenes when "The Dr. Phil Show" aired an exposé implicating 2 men in Natalee's death.

Deepak and Satish Kalpoe are suing Dr. Phil and CBS for defamation, claiming the show "was deceptively clothed as an investigative piece looking into the disappearance of [Natalee]" but was "in reality an abhorrent example of manufactured media sensationalism at its worst."

 ::snipping2::




UPDATE:  Dr. Phil's lawyers tell TMZ ... they have no problem with Beth Holloway's deposition ... they just don't want to delay their motion to throw out the case.  The judge agreed with Phil's attorneys, ruling although Beth's depo was fair game, it would not delay Phil's motion to dismiss the case.



Beth Holloway

'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for Nov. 30th
updated 9:10 a.m. PT, Thurs., Dec. 1, 2005


BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY‘S MOTHER: You know, Rita, when they use the word “manipulated,” they really need to use the word “edited.” And the tape that they‘re saying was manipulated was the one that was shown on Dr. Phil, it was edited. It was edited for television. You can‘t get a 20-second or a 6-second sound bite out of two-and-a-half hours. And you know, yes, Deepak did respond to Jamie‘s question that they all had sex with her. And he even (INAUDIBLE) You‘d be surprised how simple it was that night.

RITA COSBY, HOST:  So there was nothing taken out of context, as they‘re even suggesting?

HOLLOWAY TWITTY: No, not that I could see, Rita. But you know, I know that Jamie Skeeters will have to give the information on the tapes, but I do stand by him and his validity on the tapes, Rita.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10281941/


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 08:04:41 PM
Why do people like Perez Hilton even report on the Kalpoe vs. Dr. Phil case if they aren't going to get their facts straight? 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 15, 2011, 08:10:55 PM
My DIL just received a text/email? from Sandy Neely.  All went well at last night's  event.  There was 427 in attendance.  Beth inspired all for approximately 45 minutes.

Janet



Thanks Janet

Klaas

There was nothing to indicate that last night's event would not be anything but a great success but ... a word of affirmation was such a relief.

I may bow and get a Facebook account.

Janet 

Then again I may not.

My first big leap out of my comfort zone will be the purchase of a cell phone plan prior to taking grandkids out in our boat this summer.  Will I require a course?  Do cell phones come with large keys so I don't have to rummage through my purse for my specs?  Life is becoming so complicated.

I am off!

Janet
5:10 PM PT


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 08:54:44 PM
My DIL just received a text/email? from Sandy Neely.  All went well at last night's  event.  There was 427 in attendance.  Beth inspired all for approximately 45 minutes.

Janet



Thanks Janet

Klaas

There was nothing to indicate that last night's event would not be anything but a great success but ... a word of affirmation was such a relief.

I may bow and get a Facebook account.

Janet 

Then again I may not.

My first big leap out of my comfort zone will be the purchase of a cell phone plan prior to taking grandkids out in our boat this summer.  Will I require a course?  Do cell phones come with large keys so I don't have to rummage through my purse for my specs?  Life is becoming so complicated.

I am off!

Janet
5:10 PM PT


Janet
- I don't trust Facebook.  I have one but it's completely fake, does not link back to the "real" me at all.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 15, 2011, 10:14:52 PM

<snipped>

I may bow and get a Facebook account.

Janet 

Then again I may not.

<snipped>

Janet


Janet - I don't trust Facebook.  I have one but it's completely fake, does not link back to the "real" me at all.

That settles it!  Facebook will continue to be a non-issue in my little world.

My daughter and eldest DIL are encouraging me to join and become one of their "friends" so that I can see pictures of my grandkids.

I really do not want to become one of their "friends".  As far as pictures of the grandkids ... there is the email option.

Janet



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 10:29:16 PM

<snipped>

I may bow and get a Facebook account.

Janet 

Then again I may not.

<snipped>

Janet


Janet - I don't trust Facebook.  I have one but it's completely fake, does not link back to the "real" me at all.

That settles it!  Facebook will continue to be a non-issue in my little world.

My daughter and eldest DIL are encouraging me to join and become one of their "friends" so that I can see pictures of my grandkids.

I really do not want to become one of their "friends".  As far as pictures of the grandkids ... there is the email option.

Janet



Well you could create a fake one in that it's not tied to a real email address and it has a fake name but your kids would then have to "friend" your fake ID and they might find it odd that you have a facebook by the name of Tamikosmom (first name) Monkey (last name), LOL  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on March 15, 2011, 10:40:50 PM
Well, a few girls from highschool begged me to join Facebook a few years ago. I feel bad that I don't keep up -- I hate that people may think I'm anti-social or are ignoring them. Oh well!!  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 10:48:18 PM
Well, a few girls from highschool begged me to join Facebook a few years ago. I feel bad that I don't keep up -- I hate that people may think I'm anti-social or are ignoring them. Oh well!!  ::MonkeyDevil::

Yeah that's the other problem.  Some people get so into it they play all kinds of Facebook games that require you to participate etc.  I don't have time for all that stuff.  Well I do but I choose to waste my time in different ways  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 15, 2011, 10:56:11 PM

I may bow and get a Facebook account.
 

Then again I may not.

Janet


Janet - I don't trust Facebook.  I have one but it's completely fake, does not link back to the "real" me at all.

That settles it!  Facebook will continue to be a non-issue in my little world.

My daughter and eldest DIL are encouraging me to join and become one of their "friends" so that I can see pictures of my grandkids.

I really do not want to become one of their "friends".  As far as pictures of the grandkids ... there is the email option.

Janet



Well you could create a fake one in that it's not tied to a real email address and it has a fake name but your kids would then have to "friend" your fake ID and they might find it odd that you have a facebook by the name of Tamikosmom (first name) Monkey (last name), LOL  ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on March 15, 2011, 11:00:19 PM
Well, a few girls from highschool begged me to join Facebook a few years ago. I feel bad that I don't keep up -- I hate that people may think I'm anti-social or are ignoring them. Oh well!!  ::MonkeyDevil::

Yeah that's the other problem.  Some people get so into it they play all kinds of Facebook games that require you to participate etc.  I don't have time for all that stuff.  Well I do but I choose to waste my time in different ways  ::MonkeyHaHa::
By the way -- those were girls I went to highschool with ....................... not highschool girls from a few years ago!!!  ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ...and yes, I waste my time here!!!!!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 15, 2011, 11:03:55 PM
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/03/15/daily-commentary-tuesday-march-15th-2011-van-der-sloot-laptop-connection/

Daily Commentary – Tuesday, March 15th, 2011 – Van der Sloot Laptop Connection
 
The FBI is (finally) investigating Joran Van der Sloot’s laptop for potential connections to the Natalee Holloway case.
 

 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 15, 2011, 11:05:58 PM
Well, a few girls from highschool begged me to join Facebook a few years ago. I feel bad that I don't keep up -- I hate that people may think I'm anti-social or are ignoring them. Oh well!!  ::MonkeyDevil::

Yeah that's the other problem.  Some people get so into it they play all kinds of Facebook games that require you to participate etc.  I don't have time for all that stuff.  Well I do but I choose to waste my time in different ways  ::MonkeyHaHa::
By the way -- those were girls I went to highschool with ....................... not highschool girls from a few years ago!!!  ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ...and yes, I waste my time here!!!!!  ::MonkeyCool::

Time spent with monkeys is never wasted!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 15, 2011, 11:08:35 PM
Well, a few girls from highschool begged me to join Facebook a few years ago. I feel bad that I don't keep up -- I hate that people may think I'm anti-social or are ignoring them. Oh well!!  ::MonkeyDevil::

Yeah that's the other problem.  Some people get so into it they play all kinds of Facebook games that require you to participate etc.  I don't have time for all that stuff.  Well I do but I choose to waste my time in different ways  ::MonkeyHaHa::
By the way -- those were girls I went to highschool with ....................... not highschool girls from a few years ago!!!  ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ...and yes, I waste my time here!!!!!  ::MonkeyCool::

Time spent with monkeys is never wasted!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyCool::

I know someone else said that first...can't remember who right now!   

But it's true!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on March 15, 2011, 11:14:22 PM
Well, a few girls from highschool begged me to join Facebook a few years ago. I feel bad that I don't keep up -- I hate that people may think I'm anti-social or are ignoring them. Oh well!!  ::MonkeyDevil::

Yeah that's the other problem.  Some people get so into it they play all kinds of Facebook games that require you to participate etc.  I don't have time for all that stuff.  Well I do but I choose to waste my time in different ways  ::MonkeyHaHa::
By the way -- those were girls I went to highschool with ....................... not highschool girls from a few years ago!!!  ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ...and yes, I waste my time here!!!!!  ::MonkeyCool::

Time spent with monkeys is never wasted!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyCool::

I know someone else said that first...can't remember who right now!   

But it's true!   ::MonkeyCool::
Yes -- very true!!!! A poor choice of words!!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 15, 2011, 11:20:24 PM
Well, a few girls from highschool begged me to join Facebook a few years ago. I feel bad that I don't keep up -- I hate that people may think I'm anti-social or are ignoring them. Oh well!!  ::MonkeyDevil::

Yeah that's the other problem.  Some people get so into it they play all kinds of Facebook games that require you to participate etc.  I don't have time for all that stuff.  Well I do but I choose to waste my time in different ways  ::MonkeyHaHa::
By the way -- those were girls I went to highschool with ....................... not highschool girls from a few years ago!!!  ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ...and yes, I waste my time here!!!!!  ::MonkeyCool::

Time spent with monkeys is never wasted!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyCool::

I know someone else said that first...can't remember who right now!   

But it's true!   ::MonkeyCool::
Yes -- very true!!!! A poor choice of words!!  ::MonkeyWink::

I knew you didn't mean it that way, when I read it that phrase just came to mind.   ::MonkeyKiss:: ::CowboySmiley::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 15, 2011, 11:39:24 PM
It's in Bearlyhere's signature line.  Also I think Peaches may have said it too  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 15, 2011, 11:42:25 PM
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/03/15/daily-commentary-tuesday-march-15th-2011-van-der-sloot-laptop-connection/

Daily Commentary – Tuesday, March 15th, 2011 – Van der Sloot Laptop Connection
 
The FBI is (finally) investigating Joran Van der Sloot’s laptop for potential connections to the Natalee Holloway case.
 

 ::MonkeyCool::



I was so amazed at Kermit's revelation today that Joran came to SM on
the morning before he was arrested in Chili.  ::MonkeyShocked::

I think "time spent with monkeys is never wasted" is Bearly's line. ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on March 15, 2011, 11:47:10 PM
It's in Bearlyhere's signature line.  Also I think Peaches may have said it too  ::MonkeyAngel::
Man! I stepped into a bear trap on that one!!!! (what happened to to the "embarrassed monkey" emoticon????) I should have said something like I "SPEND" my time here!!


......................... oops!  Now, I have probably offended "Bearlyhere""   ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyDevil::  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on March 15, 2011, 11:51:54 PM
It's in Bearlyhere's signature line.  Also I think Peaches may have said it too  ::MonkeyAngel::
Man! I stepped into a bear trap on that one!!!! (what happened to to the "embarrassed monkey" emoticon????) I should have said something like I "SPEND" my time here!!


......................... oops!  Now, I have probably offended "Bearlyhere""   ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyDevil::  ::MonkeyAngel::

You might want to stop while you're still ahead.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 15, 2011, 11:52:13 PM
Dana needs to make note.....the Flores girl's name is Stephany.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 15, 2011, 11:54:07 PM
It's in Bearlyhere's signature line.  Also I think Peaches may have said it too  ::MonkeyAngel::
Man! I stepped into a bear trap on that one!!!! (what happened to to the "embarrassed monkey" emoticon????) I should have said something like I "SPEND" my time here!!


......................... oops!  Now, I have probably offended "Bearlyhere""   ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyDevil::  ::MonkeyAngel::

Wreck, you will never offend Bearly. 
We all wonder sometimes if we are wasting time here.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 16, 2011, 12:18:32 AM
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/03/15/daily-commentary-tuesday-march-15th-2011-van-der-sloot-laptop-connection/

Daily Commentary – Tuesday, March 15th, 2011 – Van der Sloot Laptop Connection
 
The FBI is (finally) investigating Joran Van der Sloot’s laptop for potential connections to the Natalee Holloway case.
 

 ::MonkeyCool::



I was so amazed at Kermit's revelation today that Joran came to SM on
the morning before he was arrested in Chili.  ::MonkeyShocked
::

I think "time spent with monkeys is never wasted" is Bearly's line. ::MonkeyDance::

Me too! Great job, Kermit! Did anyone feel a dark shadow that morning??    ::MonkeyEek::

I can't get my timeline straight........ did we know about Stephany's murder that morning?


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 16, 2011, 12:23:48 AM
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/03/15/daily-commentary-tuesday-march-15th-2011-van-der-sloot-laptop-connection/

Daily Commentary – Tuesday, March 15th, 2011 – Van der Sloot Laptop Connection
 
The FBI is (finally) investigating Joran Van der Sloot’s laptop for potential connections to the Natalee Holloway case.
 

 ::MonkeyCool::



I was so amazed at Kermit's revelation today that Joran came to SM on
the morning before he was arrested in Chili.  ::MonkeyShocked
::

I think "time spent with monkeys is never wasted" is Bearly's line. ::MonkeyDance::

Me too! Great job, Kermit! Did anyone feel a dark shadow that morning??    ::MonkeyEek::

I can't get my timeline straight........ did we know about Stephany's murder that morning?

I think we did and had been following the leads on Joran for a couple of days.
He was arrested on June 3.
TM will know all of the details.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 16, 2011, 12:29:03 AM
Thanks, Magnolia!  ::MonkeyWink::

Well, I hope we made his stomach turn!!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 16, 2011, 12:34:55 AM
ROFL!!!

I went to see what Joran might have seen while he was here, and the first thing I saw was Magnolia's post!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7645.0


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 16, 2011, 12:35:09 AM
Thanks, Magnolia!  ::MonkeyWink::

Well, I hope we made his stomach turn!!

I hope somebody called him the "delicious sporter" while he was reading.
Kermit is really amazing with what he finds.  Hats off to Kermit! ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 16, 2011, 12:44:39 AM
Sorry if I'm interrupting discussion...but I've been pulling this together for a while so I want to post it before the midnight time out...

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000620007827&sk=wall

Fernando Viana

Born on September 3, 1987

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/JVDS/FernandoViana_ScubaDivingSupervisorJuly2010.jpg)

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g147248-d1881564-r91241179-Mermaid_Divers-Oranjestad_Aruba.html


“Like Diving with Family (who are also expert divers)”

Date of review: Dec 31, 2010
My wife and I spent 2 weeks diving with Mermaid Divers—3 dives a day—for a total of 30 dives, and it was one of the most incredible experiences of our lives! Tito was our primary dive master, but we also had dives with Bero, Fernando, Danny, and Wendy (a night dive), and Hubert was the best captain you could ask for. When we arrived we had just been PADI certified. When we left, we felt like we had been diving for years. Tito took us under his wing and taught us everything from how to enter the water like a pro to how to breathe and move through the water efficiently.
 ::snipping2::
Tito, Bero, and Fernando have between 10,000 and 30,000 dives EACH, and know these reefs like the backs of their hands. They are also extremely environmentally sensitive, and can probably be credited with keeping the Aruba reefs in the excellent, uncontaminated condition they are in. They are continually removing trash and debris, repairing broken coral, and doing everything they can to keep these reefs around for a long time.
 ::snipping2::

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=193.msg32757#msg32757

From Joran's 6/24/2005 Suspect Interview
 ::snipping2::
I have to say that I am not sure any more if "Freddy ZEDAN" or "Fernando VIANA" was in the appartement with us.
 ::snipping2::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=203.0

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/JVDS/JillianSusannaFernando.jpg)

Several comparisons have been made over the years, still wonder if he was at Joran's release from KIA party...

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/JVDS/JoranReleasedFromKIA2005.jpg)

HT Kermit  ::MonkeyKiss::

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/JVDS/JoranReleasedfromKIA2005HTKermit.jpg)



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 16, 2011, 12:47:47 AM
ROFL!!!

I went to see what Joran might have seen while he was here, and the first thing I saw was Magnolia's post!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7645.0

Did you read mine?   ::MonkeyTongue::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7645.msg1144453#msg1144453
 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 16, 2011, 12:56:34 AM
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/03/15/daily-commentary-tuesday-march-15th-2011-van-der-sloot-laptop-connection/

Daily Commentary – Tuesday, March 15th, 2011 – Van der Sloot Laptop Connection
 
The FBI is (finally) investigating Joran Van der Sloot’s laptop for potential connections to the Natalee Holloway case.
 

 ::MonkeyCool::



I was so amazed at Kermit's revelation today that Joran came to SM on
the morning before he was arrested in Chili.  ::MonkeyShocked
::

I think "time spent with monkeys is never wasted" is Bearly's line. ::MonkeyDance::

Me too! Great job, Kermit! Did anyone feel a dark shadow that morning??    ::MonkeyEek::

I can't get my timeline straight........ did we know about Stephany's murder that morning?

I think we did and had been following the leads on Joran for a couple of days.
He was arrested on June 3.
TM will know all of the details.

If I remember correctly, Stephany's body was found early on the morning of June 2nd.  I want to say (without looking back) that we knew about it around noon that day.  But I could be mistaken. 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 16, 2011, 01:10:06 AM
ROFL!!!

I went to see what Joran might have seen while he was here, and the first thing I saw was Magnolia's post!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7645.0

Did you read mine?   ::MonkeyTongue::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7645.msg1144453#msg1144453
 ::MonkeyDance::




I loved Hat's post at the very bottom of the page.  I miss Hat.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 16, 2011, 01:42:17 AM
ROFL!!!

I went to see what Joran might have seen while he was here, and the first thing I saw was Magnolia's post!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7645.0

Did you read mine?   ::MonkeyTongue::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7645.msg1144453#msg1144453
 ::MonkeyDance::




I loved Hat's post at the very bottom of the page.  I miss Hat.


Me too!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 16, 2011, 02:00:49 AM
Well, a few girls from highschool begged me to join Facebook a few years ago. I feel bad that I don't keep up -- I hate that people may think I'm anti-social or are ignoring them. Oh well!!  ::MonkeyDevil::

Yeah that's the other problem.  Some people get so into it they play all kinds of Facebook games that require you to participate etc.  I don't have time for all that stuff.  Well I do but I choose to waste my time in different ways  ::MonkeyHaHa::
By the way -- those were girls I went to highschool with ....................... not highschool girls from a few years ago!!!  ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ...and yes, I waste my time here!!!!!  ::MonkeyCool::

Time spent with monkeys is never wasted!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyCool::

Now where have I heard that before?

 :scratch:



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 16, 2011, 02:01:57 AM
Well, a few girls from highschool begged me to join Facebook a few years ago. I feel bad that I don't keep up -- I hate that people may think I'm anti-social or are ignoring them. Oh well!!  ::MonkeyDevil::

Yeah that's the other problem.  Some people get so into it they play all kinds of Facebook games that require you to participate etc.  I don't have time for all that stuff.  Well I do but I choose to waste my time in different ways  ::MonkeyHaHa::
By the way -- those were girls I went to highschool with ....................... not highschool girls from a few years ago!!!  ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ...and yes, I waste my time here!!!!!  ::MonkeyCool::

Time spent with monkeys is never wasted!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyCool::

I know someone else said that first...can't remember who right now!   

But it's true!   ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyShocked::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 16, 2011, 02:05:07 AM
It's in Bearlyhere's signature line.  Also I think Peaches may have said it too  ::MonkeyAngel::

It started in the signature line of the mermaid from Florida who left, only hers said 'Time spent with cats is never wasted.'  I changed cats to monkeys and it has been in my signature line ever since.

 ::MonkeyCool::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 16, 2011, 02:06:37 AM
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/03/15/daily-commentary-tuesday-march-15th-2011-van-der-sloot-laptop-connection/

Daily Commentary – Tuesday, March 15th, 2011 – Van der Sloot Laptop Connection
 
The FBI is (finally) investigating Joran Van der Sloot’s laptop for potential connections to the Natalee Holloway case.
 

 ::MonkeyCool::



I was so amazed at Kermit's revelation today that Joran came to SM on
the morning before he was arrested in Chili.  ::MonkeyShocked::

I think "time spent with monkeys is never wasted" is Bearly's line. ::MonkeyDance::

The winner!  ding! ding! ding! ding! ding! ding! ding!

 ::MonkeyKiss::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 16, 2011, 02:09:59 AM
It's in Bearlyhere's signature line.  Also I think Peaches may have said it too  ::MonkeyAngel::
Man! I stepped into a bear trap on that one!!!! (what happened to to the "embarrassed monkey" emoticon????) I should have said something like I "SPEND" my time here!!


......................... oops!  Now, I have probably offended "Bearlyhere""   ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyDevil::  ::MonkeyAngel::

Bear trap?  Good grief, who is setting traps in the monkey cage for bears?  If they aren't asking where we do our business, the are setting traps.  I'll have to carry my trap cutters with me.

No wonder they call him 'Wreck.'

 ::MonkeyShocked::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 16, 2011, 02:14:51 AM
ROFL!!!

I went to see what Joran might have seen while he was here, and the first thing I saw was Magnolia's post!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7645.0

No wonder he looked like hell when they caught up with him.  I read some of those posts.  I also wonder if he was not tuning into the cage to find out the latest news so he could go in another direction.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 16, 2011, 02:18:36 AM
ROFL!!!

I went to see what Joran might have seen while he was here, and the first thing I saw was Magnolia's post!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7645.0

Did you read mine?   ::MonkeyTongue::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7645.msg1144453#msg1144453
 ::MonkeyDance::




I loved Hat's post at the very bottom of the page.  I miss Hat.


 ::rhino::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 16, 2011, 02:48:56 AM
I didn't know what Chato looked like, someone may have posted a picture of him before and I've forgotten.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=193.msg32757#msg32757

Quote
According to me Freddy also told me that he was at that moment in time sitting in the car of "Chato". The name of "Chato" is "Leonardo" but I do not know his last name. According to me Chato is from Mexico.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=545067709&sk=info

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/JVDS/Chato_LeonardoLRiveraFBProfile03152011_Jorans06242005SuspectInterview.jpg)

Leonardo L. Rivera
Lives in Oranjestad, Aruba  From Mexico City, Mexico

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=203.0

RIVIERA, Leonardo Lopez – International School student interviewed by ALE on 6-27-05, 7-1-05 & 8-29-05

http://scaredmonkeys.com/fun-images/nhcase-statements.xls

Leonardo Lopez Riviera   International School student      
6/27/2005   
14:20   
Dennis Jacobs / Marcelino Ras

Leonardo Lopez Riviera         
7/1/2005   
14:30
Johny Erasmus / Zoraida De Cuba

Leonardo Lopez Riviera         
8/29/2005      
Dennis Jacobs / Eric Soemers





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 16, 2011, 02:59:53 AM
Well, a few girls from highschool begged me to join Facebook a few years ago. I feel bad that I don't keep up -- I hate that people may think I'm anti-social or are ignoring them. Oh well!!  ::MonkeyDevil::

Yeah that's the other problem.  Some people get so into it they play all kinds of Facebook games that require you to participate etc.  I don't have time for all that stuff.  Well I do but I choose to waste my time in different ways  ::MonkeyHaHa::
By the way -- those were girls I went to highschool with ....................... not highschool girls from a few years ago!!!  ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ...and yes, I waste my time here!!!!!  ::MonkeyCool::

Time spent with monkeys is never wasted!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyCool::

I know someone else said that first...can't remember who right now!   

But it's true!   ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Sorry Sis!  How could I have forgotten that YOU said it!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

But I did remember the phrase!   ::MonkeyKiss::  ::MonkeyJnBox::

Wreck probably wishes I hadn't... ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 16, 2011, 03:06:20 AM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_50.jpg)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE,

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/machpicchusteph.jpg)

AND STEPHANY!

 ::MonkeyJustice::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: IBE on March 16, 2011, 03:23:26 AM
Hello Monkey Family doing Good Works

Was donating to the disasters and then went insomnia exploring and found this:

Caribbean
Main article: Attack on Aruba
A German submarine shelled the American Standard Oil refinery at the San Nicolas harbour and the "Arend"/"Eagle" Maatschappij ( from the Dutch/British Shell Co.) near the Oranjestad harbour both situated on the Island of Aruba (in those days still a Dutch colony) and some ships that were near the entrance to Lake Maracaibo on February 16, 1942. Three tankers, including the Venezuelan Monagas, were sunk. A Venezuelan gunboat, General Urbaneta, assisted in rescuing the crews.[18][19]
Edit to add link.  MB  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_North_America_during_World_War_II

in the wikipedia about WWII Japan and German attacks on the US. Thought it was interesting.

Keep up the Good Works! Love, IBE


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: wreck on March 16, 2011, 09:30:10 AM
Well, a few girls from highschool begged me to join Facebook a few years ago. I feel bad that I don't keep up -- I hate that people may think I'm anti-social or are ignoring them. Oh well!!  ::MonkeyDevil::

Yeah that's the other problem.  Some people get so into it they play all kinds of Facebook games that require you to participate etc.  I don't have time for all that stuff.  Well I do but I choose to waste my time in different ways  ::MonkeyHaHa::
By the way -- those were girls I went to highschool with ....................... not highschool girls from a few years ago!!!  ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ...and yes, I waste my time here!!!!!  ::MonkeyCool::

Time spent with monkeys is never wasted!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyCool::

I know someone else said that first...can't remember who right now!   

But it's true!   ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Sorry Sis!  How could I have forgotten that YOU said it!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

But I did remember the phrase!   ::MonkeyKiss::  ::MonkeyJnBox::

Wreck probably wishes I hadn't... ::MonkeyHaHa::


I'm blaming Facebook ... that is what started it last night! ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 16, 2011, 09:47:30 AM
Well, a few girls from highschool begged me to join Facebook a few years ago. I feel bad that I don't keep up -- I hate that people may think I'm anti-social or are ignoring them. Oh well!!  ::MonkeyDevil::

Yeah that's the other problem.  Some people get so into it they play all kinds of Facebook games that require you to participate etc.  I don't have time for all that stuff.  Well I do but I choose to waste my time in different ways  ::MonkeyHaHa::
By the way -- those were girls I went to highschool with ....................... not highschool girls from a few years ago!!!  ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ...and yes, I waste my time here!!!!!  ::MonkeyCool::

Time spent with monkeys is never wasted!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyCool::

I know someone else said that first...can't remember who right now!   

But it's true!   ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Sorry Sis!  How could I have forgotten that YOU said it!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

But I did remember the phrase!   ::MonkeyKiss::  ::MonkeyJnBox::

Wreck probably wishes I hadn't... ::MonkeyHaHa::



 ::MonkeyWink::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 16, 2011, 09:49:22 AM
Well, a few girls from highschool begged me to join Facebook a few years ago. I feel bad that I don't keep up -- I hate that people may think I'm anti-social or are ignoring them. Oh well!!  ::MonkeyDevil::

Yeah that's the other problem.  Some people get so into it they play all kinds of Facebook games that require you to participate etc.  I don't have time for all that stuff.  Well I do but I choose to waste my time in different ways  ::MonkeyHaHa::
By the way -- those were girls I went to highschool with ....................... not highschool girls from a few years ago!!!  ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ...and yes, I waste my time here!!!!!  ::MonkeyCool::

Time spent with monkeys is never wasted!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyCool::

I know someone else said that first...can't remember who right now!   

But it's true!   ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Sorry Sis!  How could I have forgotten that YOU said it!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

But I did remember the phrase!   ::MonkeyKiss::  ::MonkeyJnBox::

Wreck probably wishes I hadn't... ::MonkeyHaHa::


I'm blaming Facebook ... that is what started it last night! ::MonkeyShocked::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 16, 2011, 09:56:23 AM
Hello Monkey Family doing Good Works

Was donating to the disasters and then went insomnia exploring and found this:

Caribbean
Main article: Attack on Aruba
A German submarine shelled the American Standard Oil refinery at the San Nicolas harbour and the "Arend"/"Eagle" Maatschappij ( from the Dutch/British Shell Co.) near the Oranjestad harbour both situated on the Island of Aruba (in those days still a Dutch colony) and some ships that were near the entrance to Lake Maracaibo on February 16, 1942. Three tankers, including the Venezuelan Monagas, were sunk. A Venezuelan gunboat, General Urbaneta, assisted in rescuing the crews.[18][19]
Edit to add link.  MB  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_North_America_during_World_War_II

in the wikipedia about WWII Japan and German attacks on the US. Thought it was interesting.

Keep up the Good Works! Love, IBE


Thanks IBE!  I think I remember reading that a long time ago before. 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 16, 2011, 09:57:51 AM
Thanks TM, I don't think we've seen Chato before!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 16, 2011, 10:09:12 AM
I don't even know if this is the same Leonard Riviera BUT I find this Myspace photo weird. 

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5172/5532193316_aedf80ec6f_b.jpg)

http://www.myspace.com/rvrlalolnrd


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 16, 2011, 10:46:06 AM
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Beth-Holloway-dragged-into-Dr-Phil-lawsuit/jmg9Nn_al0yExRHHa--mrg.cspx

Beth Holloway dragged into Dr. Phil lawsuit

Birmingham, Al  (CBS42)  Beth Holloway will have to do a deposition in a lawsuit against talk show host Dr. Phil according to documents cited by the website TMZ. (does anyone think that giving a deposition will bother Beth in any way after all she has been through.  She probably looks forward to it!)

 ::snipping2::

The lawsuit claims Beth Holloway was privy to information "surrounding the motives and production of the show." 

Lawyers for Dr. Phil and CBS say they only fought the deposition because it would slow down action on their motion to dismiss the lawsuit.  According to TMZ, the judge in the case is proceeding with both the deposition and consideration of the motion to dismiss.

The show in question aired in September 2005 just months after Natalee's disappearance.  The Kalpoe brothers filed their lawsuit in December in Los Angeles Superior Court accusing Phil McGraw, along with private investigator Jamie Skeeters and the CBS Television Group, of committing libel and slander, invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy by editing and airing an interview between Skeeters and Deepak Kalpoe to suggest the brothers somehow committed a crime.

At the time the lawsuit was filed, the show's producer, Paramount Studios said "We stand by the integrity of the Dr. Phil show, our editing process and the accuracy of the program that we aired. We will vigorously defend against these baseless claims."


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 16, 2011, 11:12:30 AM
I don't even know if this is the same Leonard Riviera BUT I find this Myspace photo weird. 

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5172/5532193316_aedf80ec6f_b.jpg)

http://www.myspace.com/rvrlalolnrd

This one from his FB kinda bothered me...look at her eyes.  No idea who she is but it looks like she's on something imo.





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 16, 2011, 11:22:24 AM
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Beth-Holloway-dragged-into-Dr-Phil-lawsuit/jmg9Nn_al0yExRHHa--mrg.cspx

Beth Holloway dragged into Dr. Phil lawsuit

Birmingham, Al  (CBS42)  Beth Holloway will have to do a deposition in a lawsuit against talk show host Dr. Phil according to documents cited by the website TMZ. (does anyone think that giving a deposition will bother Beth in any way after all she has been through.  She probably looks forward to it!)

 ::snipping2::

The lawsuit claims Beth Holloway was privy to information "surrounding the motives and production of the show." 

Lawyers for Dr. Phil and CBS say they only fought the deposition because it would slow down action on their motion to dismiss the lawsuit.  According to TMZ, the judge in the case is proceeding with both the deposition and consideration of the motion to dismiss.

The show in question aired in September 2005 just months after Natalee's disappearance.  The Kalpoe brothers filed their lawsuit in December in Los Angeles Superior Court accusing Phil McGraw, along with private investigator Jamie Skeeters and the CBS Television Group, of committing libel and slander, invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy by editing and airing an interview between Skeeters and Deepak Kalpoe to suggest the brothers somehow committed a crime.

At the time the lawsuit was filed, the show's producer, Paramount Studios said "We stand by the integrity of the Dr. Phil show, our editing process and the accuracy of the program that we aired. We will vigorously defend against these baseless claims."


Flashback

Ex-Holloway Suspects Sue Dr. Phil
Fri., Dec. 15, 2006


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The lawsuit, filed Wednesday in Los Angeles Superior Court, accuses McGraw, along with private investigator Jamie Skeeters and the CBS Television Group, of committing libel and slander, invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy by editing and airing an interview between Skeeters and Deepak Kalpoe to suggest the brothers somehow committed a crime.

The show's producer, Paramount Studios, slammed the lawsuit. "We stand by the integrity of the Dr. Phil show, our editing process and the accuracy of the program that we aired. We will vigorously defend against these baseless claims."

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http://ca.eonline.com/uberblog/b53983_Ex-Holloway_Suspects_Sue_Dr_Phil.html


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 16, 2011, 11:24:51 AM
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Beth-Holloway-dragged-into-Dr-Phil-lawsuit/jmg9Nn_al0yExRHHa--mrg.cspx

Beth Holloway dragged into Dr. Phil lawsuit

Birmingham, Al  (CBS42)  Beth Holloway will have to do a deposition in a lawsuit against talk show host Dr. Phil according to documents cited by the website TMZ. (does anyone think that giving a deposition will bother Beth in any way after all she has been through.  She probably looks forward to it!)

 ::snipping2::

The lawsuit claims Beth Holloway was privy to information "surrounding the motives and production of the show." 

Lawyers for Dr. Phil and CBS say they only fought the deposition because it would slow down action on their motion to dismiss the lawsuit.  According to TMZ, the judge in the case is proceeding with both the deposition and consideration of the motion to dismiss.

The show in question aired in September 2005 just months after Natalee's disappearance.  The Kalpoe brothers filed their lawsuit in December in Los Angeles Superior Court accusing Phil McGraw, along with private investigator Jamie Skeeters and the CBS Television Group, of committing libel and slander, invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy by editing and airing an interview between Skeeters and Deepak Kalpoe to suggest the brothers somehow committed a crime.

At the time the lawsuit was filed, the show's producer, Paramount Studios said "We stand by the integrity of the Dr. Phil show, our editing process and the accuracy of the program that we aired. We will vigorously defend against these baseless claims."


I think Beth probably expected to be called as a witness if the case came to trial.  So no, I don't think a deposition will upset her.  But at this late date, and considering her schedule I don't know if it will get done before the hearing date.  I'm wondering if they're not doing this now just to get the news attention they're getting...and possibly in an attempt to gather more personal information on Beth before the case gets thrown out!  I don't know if the questions would be limited to those associated with the case or not.  If they REALLY thought any of the reasons they're saying now applied to her, why did they wait so long to request to depose her?  There's something hinky stinky behind it, I can't shake that feeling.  And I hope whatever it is backfires on them!

jmo   ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 16, 2011, 11:35:58 AM
Dr. Phil loses court battle to block Natalie Holloway’ mom’s deposition – Pics
March 15, 2011


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Dr. Phil lost a court motion that was filed in Los Angeles Superior Court by the Kalpoe brothers ordering Natalie Holloway’s mother to be deposed by the Kalpoe’s attorney in a lawsuit they filed last year claiming defamation.

Around 12,000 bloggers are blogging on this motion and over 38,000 are covering the main lawsuit.

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http://www.examiner.com/blogosphere-buzz-in-national/dr-phil-loses-court-battle-to-block-natalie-holloway-mom-s-deposition-pics


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 16, 2011, 12:00:15 PM

The Kalpoes' attorneys have had over four years to request a deposition from Beth Holloway.  At what point does the judge say "ENOUGH!"

When it is implied that proceedings will not be delayed as a result of this request ... it must be assumed that Beth Holloway does not have a personal life ... does not have speaking engagements ... is not in involved in the production of a movie as well as a TV series ....

Janet


Why has this lawsuit not been dismissed long ago.  A five day deadline has come and gone a long time ago ... a five day deadline for the Kalpoe's attorneys to comply with the request of Phil McGraw's attorneys to produce case documents.

Has the Kalpoes' attorney dropped all allegations in the defamation except the claim that the Phil McGraw recording was "mainipulated" ... not "edited"?  In other words ... no case documents are required.  The recording is the only issue?

Janet

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Judge allows lawsuit to proceed against Dr. Phil
Date: Wednesday Feb. 6, 2008 10:12 AM ET


LOS ANGELES — A California judge refused to dismiss a defamation suit Tuesday against CBS and television psychologist "Dr. Phil" McGraw brought by two brothers who were questioned in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

William Cremer, lawyer for Surinamese brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, praised the decision by Superior Court Judge Edward Ferns. "I'm going to take Dr. Phil down," he said outside the courtroom.

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The Kalpoes, who have maintained they had nothing to do with Holloway's disappearance, sued in December 2006, claiming the "Dr. Phil" talk show altered portions of a taped conversation between Deepak Kalpoe and a private investigator to "create false, incriminating, and defamatory statements that the plaintiffs engaged in criminal activity against Natalee Holloway."

The brothers also contend the TV show implied they helped kill Holloway and disposed of her body. Their suit claims defamation, invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy.

Cremer said the taped remarks by van der Sloot, which were secretly recorded by a Dutch crime reporter, help his clients' defamation case.

"It pretty much exonerates my boys, doesn't it?" Cremer said.

In their dismissal motion, lawyers for CBS Television and McGraw maintained lawyers for the Kalpoes did not meet deadlines to produce all documents they have demanded concerning the criminal case investigation against the brothers in Aruba.

But the judge gave the Kalpoes' lawyers another five days to satisfy the document deadline.

"The documents are relevant to the most fundamental issues in this case," Ferns stated in his ruling.

"There is no other (information) which can substitute for the documents sought by the defendants due to the nature of this case."

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http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20080206/dr_phil_080206/


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 16, 2011, 12:16:25 PM
Morning Monkeys!   ::HelloKitty::

I'm sure that JQK will prepare Beth for the deposition, but my bet is that she will not look forward to it. Depositions can be harrowing and I hate to think about Beth having to do anything she might not want to do. If she would rather not be deposed, serving her the required papers will be easy enough because she's a public speaker with published times and dates of her whereabouts. I hadn't thought of that when I said she could probably avoid service, so she'll probably accept notice through the attys. JMO.

K2's attys still have to get all the paperwork filed and there should be some accomodation for her schedule. I'm not 100% positive they'll get it done before the April deadline. I agree, Beth may welcome the opportunity to testify at trial but testimony like hers is best served to the unexpecting and unprepared.    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 16, 2011, 12:45:15 PM
Morning Monkeys!   ::HelloKitty::

I'm sure that JQK will prepare Beth for the deposition, but my bet is that she will not look forward to it. Depositions can be harrowing and I hate to think about Beth having to do anything she might not want to do. If she would rather not be deposed, serving her the required papers will be easy enough because she's a public speaker with published times and dates of her whereabouts. I hadn't thought of that when I said she could probably avoid service, so she'll probably accept notice through the attys. JMO.

K2's attys still have to get all the paperwork filed and there should be some accomodation for her schedule. I'm not 100% positive they'll get it done before the April deadline. I agree, Beth may welcome the opportunity to testify at trial but testimony like hers is best served to the unexpecting and unprepared.    ::MonkeyCool::

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 16, 2011, 01:07:19 PM
Morning Monkeys!   ::HelloKitty::

I'm sure that JQK will prepare Beth for the deposition, but my bet is that she will not look forward to it. Depositions can be harrowing and I hate to think about Beth having to do anything she might not want to do. If she would rather not be deposed, serving her the required papers will be easy enough because she's a public speaker with published times and dates of her whereabouts. I hadn't thought of that when I said she could probably avoid service, so she'll probably accept notice through the attys. JMO.

K2's attys still have to get all the paperwork filed and there should be some accomodation for her schedule. I'm not 100% positive they'll get it done before the April deadline. I agree, Beth may welcome the opportunity to testify at trial but testimony like hers is best served to the unexpecting and unprepared.    ::MonkeyCool::

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 16, 2011, 01:13:13 PM
Attempted suicide, they've blurred out the face....hmmm

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=6619&offId=0&offDate=2011-3

Papiamentu translation:

3 hora happen | fecha: 16/03/2011 | horario: 09:19

family owing to arrive just at time for clip cabuya of man cu wanted owing to horca curpa at macuarima

tuesday night owing to enter informe of cu at one cas at macuarima a will wanted owing to horca curpa, at once owing to dirigi tanto police because; ambulance at the sitio. at arrival of the patrol owing to come compronde cu the family owing to arrive at time for clip the cabuya of the familiar cu owing to colga curpa for suicida his self. 

::snipping2::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 16, 2011, 01:20:15 PM
::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.24ora.com/curacao/28952-tripulante-di-carnival-miracle-perdi.html

Papiamentu/Google Spanish translation:

lost crew of Carnival Miracle

tuesday, 15 march 2011 13:00

the ship carnival miracle Owing to arrive aruba missing one employee. Owing to leave the boat for of Curacao and Aruba come. the person is one Felipinas of alarededor of 47 anja. Have past cu indication lever Owing to ship at aruba curacao But Not Assure Owing to Owing to arrive. Owing to Happen What Do Not known. 
::snipping2::
in short time is of three person board of cruiser is cu cu lose is after the exit of for of curacao.

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=6614&offId=0&offDate=2011-3

Papiamentu translation:

17 hora happen | fecha: 15/03/2011 | horario: 19:52

this is the of 3 end, tripulante of carnival miracle owing to desaparece misteriosamente

tuesday in first oranan of morning the famous crucero, carnival miracle owing to enter harbour of oranjestad, faltando one employee, acolyte of tripulacion. t’asina cu the crucero here owing to leave for of corsow monday night, direccion aruba. is deal here here of one filipino, lyndon ranin, that owing to nace at manila, filipinas day 4 of january 1964 (47 aña). have proof cu past owing to lever the crucero first of owing to leave for of corsow, but aruba the not owing to arrive. kico owing to happen do not conoci. was in oranan of madruga, hour cu the not owing to present for work owing to cuminsa busca his right. his compañero in cabina owing to tell cu none instant the not owing to present in cabina. is for of year 1997, the is work cu the compania of carnival cruise line. autoridad of aruba owing to wordo notifica y have one investigacion big andando.

 ::snipping2::

(http://www.awe24.com/_moblog_items/6614/2_1300233302.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 16, 2011, 01:24:56 PM
::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.24ora.com/curacao/28952-tripulante-di-carnival-miracle-perdi.html

Papiamentu/Google Spanish translation:

lost crew of Carnival Miracle

tuesday, 15 march 2011 13:00

the ship carnival miracle Owing to arrive aruba missing one employee. Owing to leave the boat for of Curacao and Aruba come. the person is one Felipinas of alarededor of 47 anja. Have past cu indication lever Owing to ship at aruba curacao But Not Assure Owing to Owing to arrive. Owing to Happen What Do Not known. 
::snipping2::
in short time is of three person board of cruiser is cu cu lose is after the exit of for of curacao.

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=6614&offId=0&offDate=2011-3

Papiamentu translation:

17 hora happen | fecha: 15/03/2011 | horario: 19:52

this is the of 3 end, tripulante of carnival miracle owing to desaparece misteriosamente

tuesday in first oranan of morning the famous crucero, carnival miracle owing to enter harbour of oranjestad, faltando one employee, acolyte of tripulacion. t’asina cu the crucero here owing to leave for of corsow monday night, direccion aruba. is deal here here of one filipino, lyndon ranin, that owing to nace at manila, filipinas day 4 of january 1964 (47 aña). have proof cu past owing to lever the crucero first of owing to leave for of corsow, but aruba the not owing to arrive. kico owing to happen do not conoci. was in oranan of madruga, hour cu the not owing to present for work owing to cuminsa busca his right. his compañero in cabina owing to tell cu none instant the not owing to present in cabina. is for of year 1997, the is work cu the compania of carnival cruise line. autoridad of aruba owing to wordo notifica y have one investigacion big andando.

 ::snipping2::

(http://www.awe24.com/_moblog_items/6614/2_1300233302.jpg)

http://www.carnival.com/Funville/forums/p/159230/831872.aspx
 ::snipping2::


indiana_zman replied on Tue Mar 15, 2011 at 07:57 PM
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we stopped at aruba today it was fun.dad is really sick he has a101.7 temp.so we went to the doctor on the ship so he got some meds .he is still hotter then hell.

we got back on ship and find out a crew member of this ship is missing.he got back on the ship last stop,but did not show up for work. they search every cabin when we were in aruba.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 16, 2011, 01:57:49 PM
He just makes my stomach turn.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://amigoenieuws.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4787:sluiting-ciad-in-kader-privatisering-verslaafdenzorg&catid=108:artikelen-aruba&Itemid=199

Google translation:

(http://amigoenieuws.com/images/stories/16-03-2011/577513.jpg)

Closing Ciad in addiction care under privatization

Last Updated on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 5:25 p.m.
Wednesday, March 16, 2011 4:46 p.m.

ORANGE CITY - The closure of Ciad falls in government policy to privatize the addiction in Aruba. That says a drug coordinator Jan van der Straten. The decision to privatize was last year taken by the Cabinet. "The idea is that addiction further away from the politics to come", says Van der Straten. Although addiction is in private hands and foundations also active funds will have to recruit, the government continues to guarantee that concern, he says.

Van der Straten: "The addiction is still in the hands of officials and the government believes that there are many foundations in the private sector are working with addiction, that a lot better justice than could come within a government." Past November was the decision to Ciad to wind and her team of officers available to Fada. "Fada information has always been, until under the previous government was deliberately put dry. Then the information in the hands of officials arrived. These people have done their job well, but the addiction must be privatized, "says van der Straten, who stresses that Fada will function properly because of Ciad officers who carry out their work there have done well. At the same time, Van der Straten, that the new structure under which these workers will fall a period of 'self' by which officers will order.

According to Van der Straten addiction must therefore continue to get away from politics. He points out that Health Minister Richard Visser (AVP) on that one way to ensure greater freedom for people in addiction to their job done. "Without relying on arbitrariness or favoritism." Vander Street indicates that although drug addiction in private hands and foundations also actively to raise funds, the government remains the guarantor for that care. This is how the money from the current budget, which until recently went to Ciad with officials of Ciad along to Fada, Van der Straten.
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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #856 2/14/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 16, 2011, 02:03:53 PM
http://amigoenieuws.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4797:veterinaire-dienst-waarschuwt-voor-uitbraak-schroefworm&catid=151:artikel-headline-aruba&Itemid=200

Google translation:

Veterinary Service warns of screw worm outbreak

Wednesday, 16 March 2011 5:25 p.m.

ORANGE CITY - In a joint press conference with Department of Health, the V