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Title: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: MuffyBee on January 28, 2011, 09:15:03 PM
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HAILEY DUNN
LAST SEEN DECEMBER 27, 2010


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 05, 2011, 09:11:33 PM
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Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Fanny Mae on February 05, 2011, 09:12:00 PM
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Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Fanny Mae on February 05, 2011, 09:14:53 PM
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Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 05, 2011, 09:15:51 PM
Mommie Dearest is also suppose to have an interview tonight on their local channel (10?) but will not confirm that SA is baaaccckkkkk :smt068


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 05, 2011, 09:25:49 PM
Welcome back!  Hmm, interesting about more BD interviews. 

Speaking of BD press, having been warned that she's going to be litigious, wow Peter Hyatt.  That's a pretty bold step, a bluff-calling.  I wonder if there is any way at all of proving anything said.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 05, 2011, 09:47:13 PM
I hadn't seen this interview yet: http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2011/feb/05/hailey-dunn-search-for-girl-changes-a-city/

Excerpt:  "Laughter and yells from the playground of a local elementary school carried two blocks to Billie Jean Dunn's front porch Monday, where she faced a bouquet of microphones.

When the recess bell rang, the voices disappeared and the pleas for her own little girl began.

"I'm so envious when I see mothers with their daughters in stores, or during the searches," Dunn said from her living room Wednesday afternoon. "I've learned how lucky I am to be a mother."  (continues at the link)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: 4 Donks on February 05, 2011, 10:27:08 PM
I hadn't seen this interview yet: http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2011/feb/05/hailey-dunn-search-for-girl-changes-a-city/

Excerpt:  "Laughter and yells from the playground of a local elementary school carried two blocks to Billie Jean Dunn's front porch Monday, where she faced a bouquet of microphones.

When the recess bell rang, the voices disappeared and the pleas for her own little girl began.

"I'm so envious when I see mothers with their daughters in stores, or during the searches," Dunn said from her living room Wednesday afternoon. "I've learned how lucky I am to be a mother."  (continues at the link)
This is very self serving seeing as days went by without her seeing her daughter and the daughter living at other homes. Even when she was home mom and SA were in the bedroom (the last night she was at home) I wonder when the last time they had a mother/daughter shopping trip.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 05, 2011, 10:51:54 PM
Someone drove by BJD's house and snapped a few pics.....here is one from about 5pm today. Has this truck left the house and is now back, or has it NEVER left? I don't know


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: 4 Donks on February 05, 2011, 11:55:52 PM
Someone drove by BJD's house and snapped a few pics.....here is one from about 5pm today. Has this truck left the house and is now back, or has it NEVER left? I don't know
The sofa is gone and when she gave the PC in the front yard it wasn't there.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 06, 2011, 12:02:10 AM
Someone drove by BJD's house and snapped a few pics.....here is one from about 5pm today. Has this truck left the house and is now back, or has it NEVER left? I don't know
The sofa is gone and when she gave the PC in the front yard it wasn't there.

The sofa or the truck? I watched it but already forgot  ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Fanny Mae on February 06, 2011, 12:08:07 AM
I hadn't seen this interview yet: http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2011/feb/05/hailey-dunn-search-for-girl-changes-a-city/

Excerpt:  "Laughter and yells from the playground of a local elementary school carried two blocks to Billie Jean Dunn's front porch Monday, where she faced a bouquet of microphones.

When the recess bell rang, the voices disappeared and the pleas for her own little girl began.

"I'm so envious when I see mothers with their daughters in stores, or during the searches," Dunn said from her living room Wednesday afternoon. "I've learned how lucky I am to be a mother."  (continues at the link)

The law enforcement situation  is worse than I thought.

<snipped>
In the first week of January, local and national law enforcement conducted door-to-door searches of the city. Officers and volunteers have boarded helicopters, horses and four-wheelers.

Agencies, totaling more than 50 officers, that were headquartered in the CC Thompson Room for briefings and instructions have since cleared out.

FBI, Texas Rangers and members of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice have been pulled off until new discoveries require them to return. Members of the Secret Service were in the city the first week, but have also since moved out.

<snipped>
Snyder resident Freda Radcliff was one of the organizers of Hailey's Angels, a group that searches on foot and who helped memorialize and rename a small bridge in the town of Dunn. Radcliff said she drives to the bridge every morning and says a prayer for Hailey with whoever comes to search. On Monday, only two others showed up.

"I think it's pitiful people are giving up searching for Hailey," she said. "So many people took time off (in the beginning), and now it's like everyone's giving up."
<snipped>

Sheriff Patrick Toombs, who has held that position in Mitchell County for more than 20 years, said fresh leads have slowed to 10 or fewer per day. One full-time officer is still assigned to the case.

<SNIPPED>


Who in the he77 is looking for Hailey? We were told by a poster she was sure there were people working hard behind the scenes night and day looking for her. She is always in the know about these kinds of things and was positve every thing is being do. So I ask again.WHO IN THE HE77 IS LOOKING FOR HAILEY?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 06, 2011, 12:18:48 AM
I hadn't seen this interview yet: http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2011/feb/05/hailey-dunn-search-for-girl-changes-a-city/

Excerpt:  "Laughter and yells from the playground of a local elementary school carried two blocks to Billie Jean Dunn's front porch Monday, where she faced a bouquet of microphones.

When the recess bell rang, the voices disappeared and the pleas for her own little girl began.

"I'm so envious when I see mothers with their daughters in stores, or during the searches," Dunn said from her living room Wednesday afternoon. "I've learned how lucky I am to be a mother."  (continues at the link)
This is very self serving seeing as days went by without her seeing her daughter and the daughter living at other homes. Even when she was home mom and SA were in the bedroom (the last night she was at home) I wonder when the last time they had a mother/daughter shopping trip.

What stores?...the beeotch hasnt gotten past her front door but for a few times.   What searches?   The only one she went to was at MK's urging & nothing before or since.

Wait, hold up just one dang minute....she's just now learned how lucky she is to be a mother?   Are you flippin kidding me (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/mslaitte/EMO-SMILIES/ANGRY-FIGHT/MONKEYangryYell.gif)  She's been a mother for 16 years & only when her daughter is missing, probably murdered, this is when she realizes how lucky she is to be a mother.  Someone justify to me how being snuggled up to her sociopath violent b/f how that inandofitself indicates how lucky she is to be a mother.  Please stop me cuz Im having a little tiff with hubbie about me taking a road trip to give Billie Jean Dunn-Dumm a piece of my mind (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/mslaitte/EMO-SMILIES/ANGRY-FIGHT/RANTsign.gif)   It is high time someone sits this stupid twit down to give her a dose of reality and doesnt let her off the hook with her lies, selfishness & stupidity.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Northern Rose on February 06, 2011, 12:50:02 AM
<snipped>

Mary Beth Garcia, the 14-year-old friend Adkins told police Hailey was supposed to spend the night with, said she never made those plans.

The last text message Mary Beth said she received from Hailey asked what she was doing. It was sent the day before Hailey was reported missing, at 2:16 p.m.

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2011/feb/05/hailey-dunn-search-for-girl-changes-a-city/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Northern Rose on February 06, 2011, 12:52:15 AM
Hailey Dunn Case: Weather, Exhaustion To Blame For Dwindling Search Parties  (with video)

<snipped>

Saturday, KTXS was one of only three media outlets to attend the press briefing, a drastic change from the days just following Hailey's disappearance.

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26763608/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Northern Rose on February 06, 2011, 01:11:14 AM
Organizers cite wintry weather for low turnout in Hailey Dunn search


<snipped>

The volunteers are turning over items to law enforcement items they find they could have a connection to the case, but Markunas said communication between the volunteers and law enforcement is not as good as they had hoped.

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/feb/05/organizers-cite-wintry-weather-for-low-turnout/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Northern Rose on February 06, 2011, 01:12:22 AM
Hailey Dunn Searchers Ask for Help

http://www.newswest9.com/Global/story.asp?S=13977955


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Northern Rose on February 06, 2011, 01:13:39 AM
Search for Hailey Dunn changes a city
Missing teen is residents' main priority

<snipped>

When addressing media, which Dunn says takes up much of her time, she speaks directly to Hailey or someone who might be holding her.

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2011/feb/05/hailey-dunn-search-for-girl-changes-a-city/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 06, 2011, 01:17:35 AM
Search for Hailey Dunn changes a city
Missing teen is residents' main priority

<snipped>

When addressing media, which Dunn says takes up much of her time, she speaks directly to Hailey or someone who might be holding her.

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2011/feb/05/hailey-dunn-search-for-girl-changes-a-city/

Oh well bless her heart. I'm sorry that people actually still want to talk to her about Hailey; at this rate, they won't for long, and she and PsychobillyHoneybunsStudmuffin can watch tv, snort their every lovin' lives away, and throw as many parties as they want. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 06, 2011, 10:00:23 AM
I hadn't seen this interview yet: http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2011/feb/05/hailey-dunn-search-for-girl-changes-a-city/

Excerpt:  "Laughter and yells from the playground of a local elementary school carried two blocks to Billie Jean Dunn's front porch Monday, where she faced a bouquet of microphones.

When the recess bell rang, the voices disappeared and the pleas for her own little girl began.

"I'm so envious when I see mothers with their daughters in stores, or during the searches," Dunn said from her living room Wednesday afternoon. "I've learned how lucky I am to be a mother."  (continues at the link)


The law enforcement situation  is worse than I thought.

<snipped>
In the first week of January, local and national law enforcement conducted door-to-door searches of the city. Officers and volunteers have boarded helicopters, horses and four-wheelers.

Agencies, totaling more than 50 officers, that were headquartered in the CC Thompson Room for briefings and instructions have since cleared out.

FBI, Texas Rangers and members of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice have been pulled off until new discoveries require them to return. Members of the Secret Service were in the city the first week, but have also since moved out.

<snipped>
Snyder resident Freda Radcliff was one of the organizers of Hailey's Angels, a group that searches on foot and who helped memorialize and rename a small bridge in the town of Dunn. Radcliff said she drives to the bridge every morning and says a prayer for Hailey with whoever comes to search. On Monday, only two others showed up.

"I think it's pitiful people are giving up searching for Hailey," she said. "So many people took time off (in the beginning), and now it's like everyone's giving up."
<snipped>

Sheriff Patrick Toombs, who has held that position in Mitchell County for more than 20 years, said fresh leads have slowed to 10 or fewer per day. One full-time officer is still assigned to the case.

<SNIPPED>


Who in the he77 is looking for Hailey? We were told by a poster she was sure there were people working hard behind the scenes night and day looking for her. She is always in the know about these kinds of things and was positve every thing is being do. So I ask again.WHO IN THE HE77 IS LOOKING FOR HAILEY?

The "official" searches for Hailey (those originally organized by Klaas Kids and Laura's Recovery) have scaled back to Wednesdays and Saturdays.  Hailey's Angels maybe doing their own searches. 



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cadillac on February 06, 2011, 10:12:59 AM
Someone drove by BJD's house and snapped a few pics.....here is one from about 5pm today. Has this truck left the house and is now back, or has it NEVER left? I don't know
Oh lookie - on the front porch - SA has him a couple a cases a beer in the cooler chillin down!!  sorry - haha


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cookie on February 06, 2011, 11:09:37 AM
does Billie have any close family? where is her mother during all of this? is no one staying with her? unless SA is back..'
but really, is she staying in that house all alone? David is gone...Hailey is gone..Does she not have any family support?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: 4 Donks on February 06, 2011, 11:20:55 AM
does Billie have any close family? where is her mother during all of this? is no one staying with her? unless SA is back..'
but really, is she staying in that house all alone? David is gone...Hailey is gone..Does she not have any family support?
The New Years gathering (party?) was a group of her family there supporting her but haven't actually heard of anyone other than the friend who joined all the forums to advocate for her.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Kat_Gram on February 06, 2011, 11:32:57 AM
I think her two brothers are assisting. They have been around as mentioned in some interviews. Maybe they just don't have their faces in front of a camera. One of her brothers has DD staying with him.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 06, 2011, 11:37:01 AM
I wonder if tonight will bring a SuperBowl gathering (party) for support?  <slightly snarky> ::CowboySmiley::

Too bad Hailey won't be around to watch the game, here she is, though, doing her cheerleader thing  ::MonkeyCheer2::  Hope this doesn't offend anyone, though.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 06, 2011, 11:38:36 AM
does Billie have any close family? where is her mother during all of this? is no one staying with her? unless SA is back..'
but really, is she staying in that house all alone? David is gone...Hailey is gone..Does she not have any family support?
The New Years gathering (party?) was a group of her family there supporting her but haven't actually heard of anyone other than the friend who joined all the forums to advocate for her.

O/T I have meant to ask you if Otis is a mini?  One of four?  We have 10.  They are like potato chips, can't just have one! ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 06, 2011, 11:44:05 AM
does Billie have any close family? where is her mother during all of this? is no one staying with her? unless SA is back..'
but really, is she staying in that house all alone? David is gone...Hailey is gone..Does she not have any family support?

cookie

Despite all Billie poor choices in the past ... poor choices that put Hailey at risk ... I believe she would be afforded the compassion of family members ... the compassion of friends and to some extent ... support in regards to public opinion IF she was a broken women who showed genuine remorse/regret for those choices.

When Billie continues to distance the official suspect in the disappearance of her precious daughter from any involvement when she has first hand knowledge of his lies/deception in regards to his actions and whereabouts on the morning of December 27th ... even family members are tested.  Their love love for Hailey dictates it.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: 4 Donks on February 06, 2011, 12:05:05 PM
does Billie have any close family? where is her mother during all of this? is no one staying with her? unless SA is back..'
but really, is she staying in that house all alone? David is gone...Hailey is gone..Does she not have any family support?
The New Years gathering (party?) was a group of her family there supporting her but haven't actually heard of anyone other than the friend who joined all the forums to advocate for her.

O/T I have meant to ask you if Otis is a mini?  One of four?  We have 10.  They are like potato chips, can't just have one! ::CowboySmiley::
Otis is a large standard,Cappy and Lumpy small standards and Hobbs is a mammoth.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Northern Rose on February 06, 2011, 12:13:20 PM
Frigid Temps Hamper Investigation into Dunn Disappearance

(http://bigcountryhomepage.com/images/Multi_Media/bigcountryhomepage/nxd_media/img/bmp/2011_02/a2ebcf5c-1017-de64-5943-759b94ab3ade/320x240.bmp)

<snipped>

Officials have said there are no new developments in the search for Hailey Dunn while volunteers gathered Saturday morning to renew search efforts.

Colorado City city manager Pete Kampfer said he had no comment about the Billie Dunn press conference last week other than “she is trying to do what she thinks is best to find Hailey I’m sure.”

Kampfer said that investigators have continued working on the case, but have had to fight the cold over the last several days.

Results from several pieces of possible evidence are still not available, he said.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=338856


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 06, 2011, 12:15:28 PM
<snipped>

Mary Beth Garcia, the 14-year-old friend Adkins told police Hailey was supposed to spend the night with, said she never made those plans.

The last text message Mary Beth said she received from Hailey asked what she was doing. It was sent the day before Hailey was reported missing, at 2:16 p.m.

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2011/feb/05/hailey-dunn-search-for-girl-changes-a-city/

In her press conference ... Billie focused on all the alleged Hailey sightings throughout the day on December 27th .... alleged Hailey sightings that would go a long way to distance Shawn from involvement in her disappearance.

However ... there was not one word about the origin of the text message to Mary Beth ... the text message that suggests that Hailey was the author.  Why?  Is Billie aware that the text message originated from Big Spring and not Colorado City?

Janet

+++++++

Mom of Hailey's Friend on the Sleepover That Never Happened
Sunday, January 23 2011


<snipped>

(Cecilia) Garcia says on the day Hailey disappeared, Mary beth received a text message that said "what are you doing?"

She says the message was sent from Hailey's mother's cell phone at about 2 o'clock, which Hailey always used, but Garcia says she worries that there is no evidence to prove Hailey sent that message.

The Garcia family says authorities have taken that text message as evidence in the investigation.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=334376


Hailey Dunn: Billie Jean Dunn: Press Conference January 31, 2011: Transcription

<snipped>

While I sincerely appreciate the time and effort of law enforcement agents, the law enforcement agents are pretty in to investigate Hailey’s disappearance. I do not understand why they seem to have disregarded all of the witnesses who have come forward to say they saw Hailey on Monday, December 27th.

Two of my neighbors came forward to say they saw Hailey in my back yard around noon.

Another neighbor said he saw Hailey and a small dark boy, probably Naomi’s son, two times between 10:30 and noon.

A woman who knows Hailey, and the friend she was supposed to spend the night with, saw them both walking together in front of Alco around 8:30pm. This woman was returning a movie to the Redbox, and passed by them. She still had a receipt, and brought it by and showed it to me the other day, with the date of the 27th, and the time of 8:36.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/01/31/hailey-dunn-billie-jean-dunn-press-conference-january-31-transcription-1/


VIDEO: Billie Dunn Tries To Dispell Rumors Surrounding Her Daughter's DisappearanceBy POSTED: 6:26 pm CST January 31, 2011
UPDATED: 10:40 pm CST January 31, 2011


<snipped>

Billie Dunn believes the last time her daughter was seen was December 27th at 8:30 p.m. by a neighbor, who claims she saw Hailey with the friend she said she was spending the night with, and a teenage boy.

Colorado City City Manager Pete Kampfer says the witness statements mentioned by Billie could not be validated.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26683573/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Kat_Gram on February 06, 2011, 12:15:52 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

He has taken down the phone interview with Clint as Clint said it was causing him stress. This was the interview where Clint told some details about Billie's life with Shawn.
.......
Something else that I have noticed is that, the blogs speak of something, like why doesn't Billie leave the house or interact with the searchers, then she does. Yesterday I said Clint should / could be Hailey's voice, now Billie uses the same phrase. I think she must have an internet connection in her house now or someone is doing a very good job for her in monitoring what is being said. And then she counters with a statement. I noticed it before also.
So, Billie : TAKE ANOTHER LIE DETECTOR or TELL US WHY YOU WON"T ? Are you too busy ?   


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Fanny Mae on February 06, 2011, 12:16:17 PM
Search for Hailey Dunn changes a city
Missing teen is residents' main priority

<snipped>

When addressing media, which Dunn says takes up much of her time, she speaks directly to Hailey or someone who might be holding her.

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2011/feb/05/hailey-dunn-search-for-girl-changes-a-city/
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/smiley-morning-coffee-1.gif)
Is anybody really buying the fact that addressing media could possibly be taking up all of Billie's time? All she has to do is smear some dark makeup under her eyes and tangle her hair up worse, and she's ready. But honestly, how many interviews does she do? I've seen very few. A local one here and there.

Someone said she must have agoraphobia not to come out of her house. If she and Shawn really did go party at a motel the other  night then she's not agoraphobic. She also use to hold down a steady job. Maybe Spindy has adivised her how she can now get disability....


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Fanny Mae on February 06, 2011, 12:24:16 PM
I wonder if tonight will bring a SuperBowl gathering (party) for support?  <slightly snarky> ::CowboySmiley::

Too bad Hailey won't be around to watch the game, here she is, though, doing her cheerleader thing  ::MonkeyCheer2::  Hope this doesn't offend anyone, though.

Your SuperBowl gathering support party is not snarky at all for me!

And your cheerleader for Hailey is not offensive to me at all either.
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/cheerleader2.gif)(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/cheerleader2.gif)(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/cheerleader2.gif)(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/cheerleader2.gif)(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/cheerleader2.gif)(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/cheerleader2.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Northern Rose on February 06, 2011, 12:24:49 PM
January 26, 2011 - 2:48pm


<snipped>

Kampfer stated investigators haven’t been able to corroborate any witnesses seeing Hailey on December 27, the day she supposedly disappeared while on the way to spend the night with a friend.

Taking the electronic data and mixing it in, the time tables don’t match up,” he said.

http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/2011/01/investigators-tighten-numbers


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Sister on February 06, 2011, 12:26:24 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

He has taken down the phone interview with Clint as Clint said it was causing him stress. This was the interview where Clint told some details about Billie's life with Shawn.
.......
Something else that I have noticed is that, the blogs speak of something, like why doesn't Billie leave the house or interact with the searchers, then she does. Yesterday I said Clint should / could be Hailey's voice, now Billie uses the same phrase. I think she must have an internet connection in her house now or someone is doing a very good job for her in monitoring what is being said. And then she counters with a statement. I noticed it before also.
So, Billie : TAKE ANOTHER LIE DETECTOR or TELL US WHY YOU WON"T ? Are you too busy ?   
Kat_Gram, but she would have to be off drugs . . .


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 06, 2011, 12:27:38 PM
does Billie have any close family? where is her mother during all of this? is no one staying with her? unless SA is back..'
but really, is she staying in that house all alone? David is gone...Hailey is gone..Does she not have any family support?
The New Years gathering (party?) was a group of her family there supporting her but haven't actually heard of anyone other than the friend who joined all the forums to advocate for her.


The New Year's Eve "Party"

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 12, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: ... First thing I want to clear up, Ms. Dunn, I have in these documents that I`ve with me and I`ve read them very carefully, that you did, in fact, have a New Year`s Eve party at your home. That would have been within 72 hours of reporting Hailey missing.

BILLIE DUNN: Well, we did not. I know it wasn`t on my mind at all that it was even New Year`s Eve. I had an uncle and aunt, and they brought their grandbaby from out of town. They came up. They stayed at my house Friday during the day. They spent the night at my brother`s. They were back over here Saturday. I think they went home on Sunday. We had family over here. I`ve had a lot of fat of family here. But that weekend, an aunt, an uncle and their grandbaby and my two brothers came over.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/12/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Fanny Mae on February 06, 2011, 12:31:06 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

He has taken down the phone interview with Clint as Clint said it was causing him stress. This was the interview where Clint told some details about Billie's life with Shawn.
.......
Something else that I have noticed is that, the blogs speak of something, like why doesn't Billie leave the house or interact with the searchers, then she does. Yesterday I said Clint should / could be Hailey's voice, now Billie uses the same phrase. I think she must have an internet connection in her house now or someone is doing a very good job for her in monitoring what is being said. And then she counters with a statement. I noticed it before also.
So, Billie : TAKE ANOTHER LIE DETECTOR or TELL US WHY YOU WON"T ? Are you too busy ?   

I am sorry he had to do it, but I hope everyone was able to read the blog and the comments befow before he did.

I agree, Billie, take out some time to take another Lie dector test. Are you afraid to? Why won't you Have you been taking so many drugs you know you couldn't take one anytime soon, or that you have no intention of taking one?

I woke up grouchy this morning and NOW he wants coffee. (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/pourcoffee.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Fanny Mae on February 06, 2011, 12:34:18 PM
SISTER, I guess our minds are going in the same direction this morning.  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Kat_Gram on February 06, 2011, 12:37:16 PM
I never thought of the drug issue. wrt the LDT.
.........
She is doing a program tomorow night. I can't remember where ? Guess she has to study for that one.
I was surprised that Clint said so much about Shawn / Billie. He is probably tired beyond belief. And I am also not surprised that he had regrets. Seems a decent man. LE knows all that background anyway. I am sure it has come up with their interviews of anyone close to the situation in that house.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: 4myjoey on February 06, 2011, 12:37:17 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

He has taken down the phone interview with Clint as Clint said it was causing him stress. This was the interview where Clint told some details about Billie's life with Shawn.
.......
Something else that I have noticed is that, the blogs speak of something, like why doesn't Billie leave the house or interact with the searchers, then she does. Yesterday I said Clint should / could be Hailey's voice, now Billie uses the same phrase. I think she must have an internet connection in her house now or someone is doing a very good job for her in monitoring what is being said. And then she counters with a statement. I noticed it before also.
So, Billie : TAKE ANOTHER LIE DETECTOR or TELL US WHY YOU WON"T ? Are you too busy ?   


I would imagine since she got that grant, she can afford a whole lot of things.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Fanny Mae on February 06, 2011, 12:39:32 PM
Welcome back!  Hmm, interesting about more BD interviews. 

Speaking of BD press, having been warned that she's going to be litigious, wow Peter Hyatt.  That's a pretty bold step, a bluff-calling.  I wonder if there is any way at all of proving anything said.

I don't think she is any position to start throwing rocks at the bloggers yet. JMO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Kat_Gram on February 06, 2011, 12:40:14 PM
Her " award " was only 1,000.00. That can go up yer or Shawn's nose fast.
Maybe Shawn is making drug deliveries to the front door.
I better knock it off, those two peeps are going to hang themselves somehow.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Fanny Mae on February 06, 2011, 12:42:16 PM
Someone drove by BJD's house and snapped a few pics.....here is one from about 5pm today. Has this truck left the house and is now back, or has it NEVER left? I don't know
The sofa is gone and when she gave the PC in the front yard it wasn't there.

The sofa or the truck? I watched it but already forgot  ::HelloKitty::

Truck and sofa were not in the yard at the presser, or not in any of the videos I could find.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: 4 Donks on February 06, 2011, 12:43:23 PM
Talking about people supporting BD..anyone heard anything more about MKs involvement or has he distanced himself.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Fanny Mae on February 06, 2011, 12:48:17 PM
Talking about people supporting BD..anyone heard anything more about MKs involvement or has he distanced himself.

Looks to me like he is long gone. Picked  up his marbles along with his publicity and went to greener fields.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 06, 2011, 12:48:52 PM
Good morning monkeys

Its Superbowl Sunday...yet I cannot muster being excited about it when I otherwise would be.  This case, along with countless others is weighing heavy on my heart & mind, I just cannot shake it like I once did albeit it always difficult...maybe that is because I've just reached a personal boiling point for the horrors we face daily or maybe its personal frustration because in recent years I havent been physically contributing constructively as I once did due to health reasons, I'm not sure I can put my finger on it.   I do know that my "furbabies" get more respect, care & unconditional love than the victims we cry over, unfortunately daily.  I do know that as a mother, a single one for much of the formative years, there hasnt been a day that has gone by that I havent been eternally grateful for my blessings & taken that honor to its highest level of respect & responsibility each & every day.  I do know that as a mother, I've been like a lion in a den if anyone has even attempted to hurt my children, protected countless of other's children as well thru the years...it will always mystify me how that natural instinct & basic skill level is so easily discarded by all too many, all too often selfishly & callously. 

We cry but our children of the world suffer beyond measure...to my dismay it will never end & I think that realization has irreversibly broken my heart & admittedly I'm struggling to make sure it doesnt break my spirit as well.

Today being a blessed Sunday for many of us, but even for those that have different days they hold as holy...let's take a moment to pray & reflect that this world will see a day that these travesties on humanity will minimize greatly, many learn by them...victims never forgotten  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Kat_Gram on February 06, 2011, 12:51:29 PM
I think it is blogtalk radio she is doing, but I can find out, probably much later.
Someone I converse with seems to be better up on this.
.............
I don't copy and paste stuff or save it. Sometimes I print it, like I did with her presser and her timeline. Does she think that peeps have a memory disorder, when we wipe our minds clean and insert her newer improved version ?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Fanny Mae on February 06, 2011, 12:52:40 PM
Frankly I think it is time to break out the water board myself. Wouldn't offend me at all to be in control of the water. Then I bet we would find Hailey and know all the details. I know, I know, it wouldn't be humane and prisoner's rights and all that jazz. Some times you just gotta do whatcha' gotta do. JMO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Kat_Gram on February 06, 2011, 12:56:32 PM
We might disagee sometimes, but we are all on the same page here when it comes to missing children or children. Sometimes, I don't agree with someone's else's opinion and they don't agree with mine, but we are all fine with each other as humans with caring hearts and souls as far as I can see. Our purpose it the same.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: 4 Donks on February 06, 2011, 01:05:15 PM
I have to admit I have struggled with trying to comprehend the enormity of these crimes. The only way I see to reduce the numbers of these horrible cases is to treat child abuse as a CRIME and have 1st responders LE not social services. After the fact you have local LE, FBI,etc but it is always after the fact. LE needs to be brought in with the 1st report and maybe they won't have to amass all these resources to locate the remains of an innocent child. The only time social services should be involved is to provide the victim counceling and placement. Off my soapbox and MOO.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: curiousone on February 06, 2011, 01:06:17 PM
I hadn't seen this interview yet: http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2011/feb/05/hailey-dunn-search-for-girl-changes-a-city/

Excerpt:  "Laughter and yells from the playground of a local elementary school carried two blocks to Billie Jean Dunn's front porch Monday, where she faced a bouquet of microphones.

When the recess bell rang, the voices disappeared and the pleas for her own little girl began.

"I'm so envious when I see mothers with their daughters in stores, or during the searches," Dunn said from her living room Wednesday afternoon. "I've learned how lucky I am to be a mother."  (continues at the link)


The law enforcement situation  is worse than I thought.

<snipped>
In the first week of January, local and national law enforcement conducted door-to-door searches of the city. Officers and volunteers have boarded helicopters, horses and four-wheelers.

Agencies, totaling more than 50 officers, that were headquartered in the CC Thompson Room for briefings and instructions have since cleared out.

FBI, Texas Rangers and members of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice have been pulled off until new discoveries require them to return. Members of the Secret Service were in the city the first week, but have also since moved out.

<snipped>
Snyder resident Freda Radcliff was one of the organizers of Hailey's Angels, a group that searches on foot and who helped memorialize and rename a small bridge in the town of Dunn. Radcliff said she drives to the bridge every morning and says a prayer for Hailey with whoever comes to search. On Monday, only two others showed up.

"I think it's pitiful people are giving up searching for Hailey," she said. "So many people took time off (in the beginning), and now it's like everyone's giving up."
<snipped>

Sheriff Patrick Toombs, who has held that position in Mitchell County for more than 20 years, said fresh leads have slowed to 10 or fewer per day. One full-time officer is still assigned to the case.

<SNIPPED>


Who in the he77 is looking for Hailey? We were told by a poster she was sure there were people working hard behind the scenes night and day looking for her. She is always in the know about these kinds of things and was positve every thing is being do. So I ask again.WHO IN THE HE77 IS LOOKING FOR HAILEY?

The "official" searches for Hailey (those originally organized by Klaas Kids and Laura's Recovery) have scaled back to Wednesdays and Saturdays.  Hailey's Angels maybe doing their own searches. 



Hailey's Angels go out searching every day.  Bless their hearts!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: curiousone on February 06, 2011, 01:08:05 PM
Someone drove by BJD's house and snapped a few pics.....here is one from about 5pm today. Has this truck left the house and is now back, or has it NEVER left? I don't know
The sofa is gone and when she gave the PC in the front yard it wasn't there.

The sofa or the truck? I watched it but already forgot  ::HelloKitty::

Truck and sofa were not in the yard at the presser, or not in any of the videos I could find.

I thought it hadn't been there for a few media interviews. 

I wonder why the media aren't all over this?  I guess small town and they don't want to be looked down upon when all is said and done.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Fanny Mae on February 06, 2011, 01:24:12 PM
Good morning monkeys

Its Superbowl Sunday...yet I cannot muster being excited about it when I otherwise would be.  This case, along with countless others is weighing heavy on my heart & mind, I just cannot shake it like I once did albeit it always difficult...maybe that is because I've just reached a personal boiling point for the horrors we face daily or maybe its personal frustration because in recent years I havent been physically contributing constructively as I once did due to health reasons, I'm not sure I can put my finger on it.   I do know that my "furbabies" get more respect, care & unconditional love than the victims we cry over, unfortunately daily.  I do know that as a mother, a single one for much of the formative years, there hasnt been a day that has gone by that I havent been eternally grateful for my blessings & taken that honor to its highest level of respect & responsibility each & every day.  I do know that as a mother, I've been like a lion in a den if anyone has even attempted to hurt my children, protected countless of other's children as well thru the years...it will always mystify me how that natural instinct & basic skill level is so easily discarded by all too many, all too often selfishly & callously. 

We cry but our children of the world suffer beyond measure...to my dismay it will never end & I think that realization has irreversibly broken my heart & admittedly I'm struggling to make sure it doesnt break my spirit as well.

Today being a blessed Sunday for many of us, but even for those that have different days they hold as holy...let's take a moment to pray & reflect that this world will see a day that these travesties on humanity will minimize greatly, many learn by them...victims never forgotten  ::MonkeyAngel::

Your post is very eloquent and touching. Nothing we do seems like it stops or even slows down the insanity. It is as if the world has been turned upside down, and what was once true is false. What was once safe is dangerous. Where children were prized possessions they are now considered little more that disposable garbage. I use to think all life was precious, but now I see living among us are evil, despicable subhumans that are a waste of the oxygen they breath. They are incorrigible with not a minute chance of change or to even know what a human emotion is. Yet they are the ones who are protected.

I will pray today for all the souls suffering through no fault of their own but who they are born to and where they happen to live. I refuse to pray for those who will never know what a prayer is except after they do their revolting, horrible, macabre acts on other humans they cry for mercy from God. God can judge them at the proper time. I already have.   



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Fanny Mae on February 06, 2011, 01:30:50 PM
I hadn't seen this interview yet: http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2011/feb/05/hailey-dunn-search-for-girl-changes-a-city/

Excerpt:  "Laughter and yells from the playground of a local elementary school carried two blocks to Billie Jean Dunn's front porch Monday, where she faced a bouquet of microphones.

When the recess bell rang, the voices disappeared and the pleas for her own little girl began.

"I'm so envious when I see mothers with their daughters in stores, or during the searches," Dunn said from her living room Wednesday afternoon. "I've learned how lucky I am to be a mother."  (continues at the link)


The law enforcement situation  is worse than I thought.

<snipped>
In the first week of January, local and national law enforcement conducted door-to-door searches of the city. Officers and volunteers have boarded helicopters, horses and four-wheelers.

Agencies, totaling more than 50 officers, that were headquartered in the CC Thompson Room for briefings and instructions have since cleared out.

FBI, Texas Rangers and members of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice have been pulled off until new discoveries require them to return. Members of the Secret Service were in the city the first week, but have also since moved out.

<snipped>
Snyder resident Freda Radcliff was one of the organizers of Hailey's Angels, a group that searches on foot and who helped memorialize and rename a small bridge in the town of Dunn. Radcliff said she drives to the bridge every morning and says a prayer for Hailey with whoever comes to search. On Monday, only two others showed up.

"I think it's pitiful people are giving up searching for Hailey," she said. "So many people took time off (in the beginning), and now it's like everyone's giving up."
<snipped>

Sheriff Patrick Toombs, who has held that position in Mitchell County for more than 20 years, said fresh leads have slowed to 10 or fewer per day. One full-time officer is still assigned to the case.

<SNIPPED>


Who in the he77 is looking for Hailey? We were told by a poster she was sure there were people working hard behind the scenes night and day looking for her. She is always in the know about these kinds of things and was positve every thing is being do. So I ask again.WHO IN THE HE77 IS LOOKING FOR HAILEY?

The "official" searches for Hailey (those originally organized by Klaas Kids and Laura's Recovery) have scaled back to Wednesdays and Saturdays.  Hailey's Angels maybe doing their own searches. 



Hailey's Angels go out searching every day.  Bless their hearts!

(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/006-1.gif) curiousone I don't think we have ever met.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Fanny Mae on February 06, 2011, 01:35:16 PM

Hailey's Angels go out searching every day.  Bless their hearts!

Unless things have changed, I don't think they even get LE guidance where to look. They go out and look where ever they think she might be. I think KlaasKids and Laura's Group got training and maps of where to look but I'm not sure Hailey's Angel were included in that. But Bless their hearts. Last time I saw them, they looked totally exhausted and were begging for help.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: curiousone on February 06, 2011, 01:36:55 PM

Hailey's Angels go out searching every day.  Bless their hearts!

Unless things have changed, I don't think they even get LE guidance where to look. They go out and look where ever they think she might be. I think KlaasKids and Laura's Group got training and maps of where to look but I'm not sure Hailey's Angel were included in that. But Bless their hearts. Last time I saw them, they looked totally exhausted and were begging for help.

They were out in the cold the other day.  They are a dedicated group that I am quite sure BD hasn't ever thanked or met.  Sad!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: curiousone on February 06, 2011, 01:38:36 PM
I hadn't seen this interview yet: http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2011/feb/05/hailey-dunn-search-for-girl-changes-a-city/

Excerpt:  "Laughter and yells from the playground of a local elementary school carried two blocks to Billie Jean Dunn's front porch Monday, where she faced a bouquet of microphones.

When the recess bell rang, the voices disappeared and the pleas for her own little girl began.

"I'm so envious when I see mothers with their daughters in stores, or during the searches," Dunn said from her living room Wednesday afternoon. "I've learned how lucky I am to be a mother."  (continues at the link)


The law enforcement situation  is worse than I thought.

<snipped>
In the first week of January, local and national law enforcement conducted door-to-door searches of the city. Officers and volunteers have boarded helicopters, horses and four-wheelers.

Agencies, totaling more than 50 officers, that were headquartered in the CC Thompson Room for briefings and instructions have since cleared out.

FBI, Texas Rangers and members of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice have been pulled off until new discoveries require them to return. Members of the Secret Service were in the city the first week, but have also since moved out.

<snipped>
Snyder resident Freda Radcliff was one of the organizers of Hailey's Angels, a group that searches on foot and who helped memorialize and rename a small bridge in the town of Dunn. Radcliff said she drives to the bridge every morning and says a prayer for Hailey with whoever comes to search. On Monday, only two others showed up.

"I think it's pitiful people are giving up searching for Hailey," she said. "So many people took time off (in the beginning), and now it's like everyone's giving up."
<snipped>

Sheriff Patrick Toombs, who has held that position in Mitchell County for more than 20 years, said fresh leads have slowed to 10 or fewer per day. One full-time officer is still assigned to the case.

<SNIPPED>


Who in the he77 is looking for Hailey? We were told by a poster she was sure there were people working hard behind the scenes night and day looking for her. She is always in the know about these kinds of things and was positve every thing is being do. So I ask again.WHO IN THE HE77 IS LOOKING FOR HAILEY?

The "official" searches for Hailey (those originally organized by Klaas Kids and Laura's Recovery) have scaled back to Wednesdays and Saturdays.  Hailey's Angels maybe doing their own searches. 



Hailey's Angels go out searching every day.  Bless their hearts!

(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/006-1.gif) curiousone I don't think we have ever met.

Thank you!  Haven't posted here in awhile but posted months ago in the Kyron thread.  Sadly there was no new news happening in that case the last time I was here.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: curiousone on February 06, 2011, 01:41:39 PM
I think it is blogtalk radio she is doing, but I can find out, probably much later.
Someone I converse with seems to be better up on this.
.............
I don't copy and paste stuff or save it. Sometimes I print it, like I did with her presser and her timeline. Does she think that peeps have a memory disorder, when we wipe our minds clean and insert her newer improved version ?

It's the same blogtalk radio that CD was on the other day. 

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Fanny Mae on February 06, 2011, 01:48:02 PM
I think it is blogtalk radio she is doing, but I can find out, probably much later.
Someone I converse with seems to be better up on this.
.............
I don't copy and paste stuff or save it. Sometimes I print it, like I did with her presser and her timeline. Does she think that peeps have a memory disorder, when we wipe our minds clean and insert her newer improved version ?

It's the same blogtalk radio that CD was on the other day. 

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow

I bet Billie talks bad about Clint a whole lot worse than anything Clint said about Billie. She's slammed him into the brick wall ever since this started. I wish Semus had not take Clint's blog interview of Cllint down. I can't imagine him being given grief about what he said. I thought it was about time to pull all the stops out. The part about Billie the chemical burns on David's back were gruesome, and I am wondering if David may have been upset about that being told and Cllint ask for Semus to take it down. jmo


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: curiousone on February 06, 2011, 01:52:20 PM
I think it is blogtalk radio she is doing, but I can find out, probably much later.
Someone I converse with seems to be better up on this.
.............
I don't copy and paste stuff or save it. Sometimes I print it, like I did with her presser and her timeline. Does she think that peeps have a memory disorder, when we wipe our minds clean and insert her newer improved version ?

It's the same blogtalk radio that CD was on the other day. 

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow

I bet Billie talks bad about Clint a whole lot worse than anything Clint said about Billie. She's slammed him into the brick wall ever since this started. I wish Semus had not take Clint's blog interview of Cllint down. I can't imagine him being given grief about what he said. I thought it was about time to pull all the stops out. The part about Billie the chemical burns on David's back were gruesome, and I am wondering if David may have been upset about that being told and Cllint ask for Semus to take it down. jmo

I do think the gloves are off now.  CD has been very cordial in his interviews and not saying anything to put BD under the bus.  However, the dynamics are changing and I have to wonder if CD is now getting angry and he's coming to terms with the fact that SA or SA and BD are involved in his daughter's disappearance.  Perhaps he's starting to think that Hailey may be deceased.  So sad.

BD has been trying to put him under the bus and point fingers in his and his gf's way, and every other which way too.  But I think after CD's interview with Peter Hyatt, BD is going to come out fighting more.  Unfortunately, all we've seen in this case is her worried about her reputation.  IMO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Kat_Gram on February 06, 2011, 01:59:39 PM
I think she / he wanted to make it seem as if Hailey disappeared under Clint's watch. Right from the get go.
Shawn told her Hailey was going to her Dad's and then to MB's. Last known place was CD's, according to Shawn as she never showed up at MB's.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 06, 2011, 02:17:23 PM
Search for Hailey Dunn changes a city
Missing teen is residents' main priority

<snipped>

When addressing media, which Dunn says takes up much of her time, she speaks directly to Hailey or someone who might be holding her.

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2011/feb/05/hailey-dunn-search-for-girl-changes-a-city/
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/smiley-morning-coffee-1.gif)
Is anybody really buying the fact that addressing media could possibly be taking up all of Billie's time? All she has to do is smear some dark makeup under her eyes and tangle her hair up worse, and she's ready. But honestly, how many interviews does she do? I've seen very few. A local one here and there.

Someone said she must have agoraphobia not to come out of her house. If she and Shawn really did go party at a motel the other  night then she's not agoraphobic. She also use to hold down a steady job. Maybe Spindy has adivised her how she can now get disability....

Oh, I was being full-on snarkey towards her about the agoraphobia, which came from me.  :)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 06, 2011, 02:21:31 PM
Good morning monkeys

Its Superbowl Sunday...yet I cannot muster being excited about it when I otherwise would be.  This case, along with countless others is weighing heavy on my heart & mind, I just cannot shake it like I once did albeit it always difficult...maybe that is because I've just reached a personal boiling point for the horrors we face daily or maybe its personal frustration because in recent years I havent been physically contributing constructively as I once did due to health reasons, I'm not sure I can put my finger on it.   I do know that my "furbabies" get more respect, care & unconditional love than the victims we cry over, unfortunately daily.  I do know that as a mother, a single one for much of the formative years, there hasnt been a day that has gone by that I havent been eternally grateful for my blessings & taken that honor to its highest level of respect & responsibility each & every day.  I do know that as a mother, I've been like a lion in a den if anyone has even attempted to hurt my children, protected countless of other's children as well thru the years...it will always mystify me how that natural instinct & basic skill level is so easily discarded by all too many, all too often selfishly & callously. 

We cry but our children of the world suffer beyond measure...to my dismay it will never end & I think that realization has irreversibly broken my heart & admittedly I'm struggling to make sure it doesnt break my spirit as well.

Today being a blessed Sunday for many of us, but even for those that have different days they hold as holy...let's take a moment to pray & reflect that this world will see a day that these travesties on humanity will minimize greatly, many learn by them...victims never forgotten  ::MonkeyAngel::

Very well put, Capp.  Thank you.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 06, 2011, 02:27:51 PM
I think it is blogtalk radio she is doing, but I can find out, probably much later.
Someone I converse with seems to be better up on this.
.............
I don't copy and paste stuff or save it. Sometimes I print it, like I did with her presser and her timeline. Does she think that peeps have a memory disorder, when we wipe our minds clean and insert her newer improved version ?

It's the same blogtalk radio that CD was on the other day. 

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow

I bet Billie talks bad about Clint a whole lot worse than anything Clint said about Billie. She's slammed him into the brick wall ever since this started. I wish Semus had not take Clint's blog interview of Cllint down. I can't imagine him being given grief about what he said. I thought it was about time to pull all the stops out. The part about Billie the chemical burns on David's back were gruesome, and I am wondering if David may have been upset about that being told and Cllint ask for Semus to take it down. jmo

I do think the gloves are off now.  CD has been very cordial in his interviews and not saying anything to put BD under the bus.  However, the dynamics are changing and I have to wonder if CD is now getting angry and he's coming to terms with the fact that SA or SA and BD are involved in his daughter's disappearance.  Perhaps he's starting to think that Hailey may be deceased.  So sad.

BD has been trying to put him under the bus and point fingers in his and his gf's way, and every other which way too.  But I think after CD's interview with Peter Hyatt, BD is going to come out fighting more.  Unfortunately, all we've seen in this case is her worried about her reputation.  IMO

IF the rumors about SA hanging out at the house again are true, than likely CD knows about it.  While I don't believe he's living where he was before anymore, I'm sure he still goes by there to 'check' for Hailey.  If I were he, I would be drawn to go back there time and time again 'just in case'.  And if SA is indeed living or at least spending time at the house, then likely CD is waking up and realizing that while she might not actively hurt Hailey, covering up for SA hurts Hailey and the search for her.  If it were me, and I saw that truck over there, there would be a mushroom cloud over the city and it would be my skull top as I lost it.  Just sayin'.  And yes - then all those little bits of BD's personality that I ignored in my mind before would sure rub me raw, and I would want others to know just what the little poor dear was in real life.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: curiousone on February 06, 2011, 02:35:27 PM
I think it is blogtalk radio she is doing, but I can find out, probably much later.
Someone I converse with seems to be better up on this.
.............
I don't copy and paste stuff or save it. Sometimes I print it, like I did with her presser and her timeline. Does she think that peeps have a memory disorder, when we wipe our minds clean and insert her newer improved version ?

It's the same blogtalk radio that CD was on the other day. 

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow

I bet Billie talks bad about Clint a whole lot worse than anything Clint said about Billie. She's slammed him into the brick wall ever since this started. I wish Semus had not take Clint's blog interview of Cllint down. I can't imagine him being given grief about what he said. I thought it was about time to pull all the stops out. The part about Billie the chemical burns on David's back were gruesome, and I am wondering if David may have been upset about that being told and Cllint ask for Semus to take it down. jmo

I do think the gloves are off now.  CD has been very cordial in his interviews and not saying anything to put BD under the bus.  However, the dynamics are changing and I have to wonder if CD is now getting angry and he's coming to terms with the fact that SA or SA and BD are involved in his daughter's disappearance.  Perhaps he's starting to think that Hailey may be deceased.  So sad.

BD has been trying to put him under the bus and point fingers in his and his gf's way, and every other which way too.  But I think after CD's interview with Peter Hyatt, BD is going to come out fighting more.  Unfortunately, all we've seen in this case is her worried about her reputation.  IMO

IF the rumors about SA hanging out at the house again are true, than likely CD knows about it.  While I don't believe he's living where he was before anymore, I'm sure he still goes by there to 'check' for Hailey.  If I were he, I would be drawn to go back there time and time again 'just in case'.  And if SA is indeed living or at least spending time at the house, then likely CD is waking up and realizing that while she might not actively hurt Hailey, covering up for SA hurts Hailey and the search for her.  If it were me, and I saw that truck over there, there would be a mushroom cloud over the city and it would be my skull top as I lost it.  Just sayin'.  And yes - then all those little bits of BD's personality that I ignored in my mind before would sure rub me raw, and I would want others to know just what the little poor dear was in real life.

CD knows that SA was over at BD's house days ago which was said in the printed interview between him and Peter Hyatt.  In addition, I am pretty sure it was one of the Hailey's Angels that said SA was back at BD's, and CD is in frequent contact with Hailey's Angels. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 06, 2011, 03:02:23 PM
I think it is blogtalk radio she is doing, but I can find out, probably much later.
Someone I converse with seems to be better up on this.
.............
I don't copy and paste stuff or save it. Sometimes I print it, like I did with her presser and her timeline. Does she think that peeps have a memory disorder, when we wipe our minds clean and insert her newer improved version ?

 Personally I believe the rumors are absolutely true.  Earlier on this thread, I think the thread before, there is a photograph of his truck in the driveway that was apparently taken at 5 p.m. yesterday.  I wish they had a newspaper or something in front to prove the date, but unfortunately they didn't.  Still, I believe it completely.  I even believe the motel-party rumor, because they would want to not do that where everyone's obviously watching.
It's the same blogtalk radio that CD was on the other day. 

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow

I bet Billie talks bad about Clint a whole lot worse than anything Clint said about Billie. She's slammed him into the brick wall ever since this started. I wish Semus had not take Clint's blog interview of Cllint down. I can't imagine him being given grief about what he said. I thought it was about time to pull all the stops out. The part about Billie the chemical burns on David's back were gruesome, and I am wondering if David may have been upset about that being told and Cllint ask for Semus to take it down. jmo

I do think the gloves are off now.  CD has been very cordial in his interviews and not saying anything to put BD under the bus.  However, the dynamics are changing and I have to wonder if CD is now getting angry and he's coming to terms with the fact that SA or SA and BD are involved in his daughter's disappearance.  Perhaps he's starting to think that Hailey may be deceased.  So sad.

BD has been trying to put him under the bus and point fingers in his and his gf's way, and every other which way too.  But I think after CD's interview with Peter Hyatt, BD is going to come out fighting more.  Unfortunately, all we've seen in this case is her worried about her reputation.  IMO

IF the rumors about SA hanging out at the house again are true, than likely CD knows about it.  While I don't believe he's living where he was before anymore, I'm sure he still goes by there to 'check' for Hailey.  If I were he, I would be drawn to go back there time and time again 'just in case'.  And if SA is indeed living or at least spending time at the house, then likely CD is waking up and realizing that while she might not actively hurt Hailey, covering up for SA hurts Hailey and the search for her.  If it were me, and I saw that truck over there, there would be a mushroom cloud over the city and it would be my skull top as I lost it.  Just sayin'.  And yes - then all those little bits of BD's personality that I ignored in my mind before would sure rub me raw, and I would want others to know just what the little poor dear was in real life.

CD knows that SA was over at BD's house days ago which was said in the printed interview between him and Peter Hyatt.  In addition, I am pretty sure it was one of the Hailey's Angels that said SA was back at BD's, and CD is in frequent contact with Hailey's Angels. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Fanny Mae on February 06, 2011, 04:18:37 PM
Does anyone know how to keep check of the docket arrests in Mitchell County, Tx. Since the LE obviously thinks so little of keeping the public informed of anything, I doubt if they would even state it if they made an arrest. We're dealing with the "keeping it close to the vest" guys. Since this is SuperBowl Sunday, I doubt if anyone is minding the office today anyhow. Yep! Now THAT was intended to be snarky, very snarky.

But it would be interesting who has been arrested on "periphery type" people, and for what charges. You know, like uncles, cousins, best friends who answers doors and the like. That the way things get squeezed sometimes. Not so sure the LE has that much intelligence to try that, but who knows.  :smt102  jmo


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 06, 2011, 06:02:03 PM
Erm, I really stuck my reply right in the middle of ALL the boxes.  I meant to reply to Curious :

Personally I believe the rumors are absolutely true.  Earlier on this thread, I think the thread before, there is a photograph of his truck in the driveway that was apparently taken at 5 p.m. yesterday.  I wish they had a newspaper or something in front to prove the date, but unfortunately they didn't.  Still, I believe it completely.  I even believe the motel-party rumor, because they would want to not do that where everyone's obviously watching.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 06, 2011, 06:06:10 PM
I was trying to find out how to answer Fanny's question, and a site gave me some more people related to BD that I hadn't heard before.  A Dunn and an Ostrander.  I don't know if it's ok to post those names here, or not.  So I am "not" until I am told "yes".  :)  But two of the names I personally hadn't heard before.  It was on a public search.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 06, 2011, 06:12:45 PM
Does anyone know how to keep check of the docket arrests in Mitchell County, Tx. Since the LE obviously thinks so little of keeping the public informed of anything, I doubt if they would even state it if they made an arrest. We're dealing with the "keeping it close to the vest" guys. Since this is SuperBowl Sunday, I doubt if anyone is minding the office today anyhow. Yep! Now THAT was intended to be snarky, very snarky.

But it would be interesting who has been arrested on "periphery type" people, and for what charges. You know, like uncles, cousins, best friends who answers doors and the like. That the way things get squeezed sometimes. Not so sure the LE has that much intelligence to try that, but who knows.  :smt102  jmo

I don't know how to check who's waiting to be booked; I know someone on the boards knows how to because we were trying to find Mona Nelson when all that was going on.

I did find this:  https://www.vinelink.com/vinelink/searchResultsAction.do?searchType=offender&siteId=44900&searchWhere=state&agency=301&id=&lastName=Adkins&firstName=Shawn&dob=&ageRange=2&methodToCall=search  aka http://tinyurl.com/4zcrhyp  and it looks like you can put in certain peoples' names, like SA for example.  But it wouldn't show them if they were waiting to be booked.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 06, 2011, 06:16:25 PM
"Authorities announced at a press conference Saturday that a revived effort is being made to find missing Colorado City, Texas teenager, Hailey Dunn."

Continue reading on Examiner.com: http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/hailey-dunn-update-police-say-search-continues-for-missing-texas-teen

(The rest of it is really a regurgitation of information we already know.)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 06, 2011, 06:52:22 PM
Billie Jean Dunn Press Conference, January 31, 2011, Transcribed

I want to apologize because my throat’s scratchy, and I got a sore throat.

Is everybody ready?

I (tape skip?) read this because I don’t want to forget anything. I want to give a complete, very detailed statement of everything that went on, the day before, the day Hailey disappeared, and the day after, just everything I could remember.

I want to thank everyone for coming this afternoon, and giving me an opportunity to make a statement.

First, I want to speak directly to Hailey in case she’s listening.

Wherever you are, Hailey, I’m looking for you. Hundreds of people are looking for you. We all want you home safe.

I just want to see and touch your beautiful face. I really love you. I desperately need you home, and um, there’s not a minute goes by I’m not praying for you, or crying, wishing you were in my living room.

I can’t handle not knowing where you are, or if you’re safe. You’re the most beautiful girl I’ve ever laid my eyes on, and I’m very proud that God chose me to be your mother.

Next, I want to say if someone out there has Hailey, please let her go. Just turn her loose. Drop her off at a church, a school, police station, anywhere that she can get to a phone, and call police or call her family.

Even if, anyone who has any information on Hailey’s whereabouts, where she might be, please call the police. Even if they think the information is not relevant, or too small to worry about, or that it’s already been reported, please call it in anyway.

Any information you might have may tie something together, or make something click for investigators.

Someone out there knows where Hailey is, or knows something that can help find her.

I feel like I need to go over the days surrounding Hailey’s disappearance again for several reasons.

Many people who are not close to the case seem to be confused because there are so many conflicting accounts of what actually happened. After watching many of the interviews I’m beginning to see why myself. I have yet to see an entire interview aired or printed. They are cut or pasted, edited for time and space, and often I’m not quoted in correct context. My words are sometimes picked apart and twisted around in such a way that I don’t even recognize them.

I’ve been flat out called a liar by some people. Others speculate on my possible involvement in Hailey’s disappearance or wonder if I’m covering up for somebody. Some people accuse me of withholding information and not cooperating with law enforcement. These things are not true, but I now feel that I have to defend myself from ridiculous accusations, slander, or defamation of character.

That said, I want to start out by saying that there was no blowout on Christmas. There were no arguments or disagreements. Everyone was getting along fine. Everyone pretty much got exactly what they asked for.

On Sunday, December 26, Hailey returned home around noon, after spending the night with Clint. I cooked a small Christmas dinner for the four of us. We ate around two.

After dinner, we all just relaxed and hung out. It was just a nice, quiet, enjoyable, lazy day.

Later in that evening around eight or nine, David left to spend the night with a friend. That’s where some of the inconsistencies with family comes along. David says he left at 9 o’clock at night. I was saying he left at six or seven. That’s the inconsistencies.

Shawn and I were watching TV in our bedroom. Hailey was playing a Xbox game in David’s bedroom. Around 10 o’clock I saw that Hailey was in her room watching TV. I told her ‘good night’, and then I went to bed.

On Monday, December 27, Shawn left the house at 5:30. My alarm was going off around the time he was telling me ‘bye’. I got up and got ready for work. I usually leave the house by 6:20. When my ride didn’t show up, I called her to see what was keeping her.

I peeked in at Hailey because I’m used to seeing her asleep on the couch. She wasn’t there. I remembered ‘oh yeah, she’s in her room’. I peeked in and it was dark, but her TV was on, and it definitely pacified me. I didn’t touch her, but I seen my daughter and felt good.

I came in the living room to wait on my ride. I left the house around 6:30 and got to work about seven.

Shawn called me while I was at work that afternoon. I asked him about the kids. He told me that David wasn’t home yet, and that Hailey had left to go to Clint’s, and then was going to a friend’s to spend the night.

Normally, I work seven to seven, but I left work early that Monday. We had a staff meeting, and the person that was usually there to relieve me was at the meeting, and offered to cover the rest of my shift, since she was already there.

I called Shawn to make sure he would be there to pick me up.

We left the hospital about 6:15. We stopped by the ATM close to the hospital to get some money out because I was running short on cash, then we went by my mom’s house to check on her, see if she needed anything.

Shawn and I still got back to Colorado City about 7:30 that evening, and we were probably in bed by nine.

David came in to say good night soon after.

I was kind of upset that Hailey hadn’t called me, and confirmed that Shawn had let me know that she was staying the night with a friend, but I wasn’t worried about her.

I went to bed.

Tuesday morning on the 28th, Shawn and I both got up around 5:30. We left the house together around 6:20 to go to work. It’s not unusual for Shawn to take me to work. He always has to be there by seven. Sometimes he had to go in earlier, but he was always told the night before, and I would arrange to get another ride on those days.

He dropped me off at the hospital at seven.

Around noon, I called David on my cell phone that I had left at home. He told me Hailey wasn’t home yet, so I asked him to text her friend, see if Hailey was there, and tell her to go ahead and come home.

He called me back within a few minutes to say that Hailey hadn’t been there, and hadn’t stayed the night there.

I then told him to walk over to Clint’s to check with him. Clint’s phone was broke. So he walked over there and called me back, told me that Naomi said Hailey had been over there for a minute on Monday, but didn’t stay the night.

I told David to give the phone to Clint. After telling Clint how worried I was, I told him I was going to get a ride home and report Hailey missing to police. I asked him to call the P.D. and let them know that I was coming. He agreed to make the call, but for some reason he never did.

My sister-in-law gave me a ride home from Snyder to Colorado City.

I stopped at the house first to make sure Hailey hadn’t come back home, grabbed my cell phone, started texting Hailey’s friends, while my sister-in-law took me around to a couple of their houses before going to the police station.

I got home from the police station around three.

Shawn called me on my cell and talked to David who told him I was going, who told him what all was going on, so Shawn left and got to the house around 4 o’clock with me and David.

Officer Alexander arrived shortly after to take a more detailed report from me.

I’ve just told you everything I know first hand. The rest I learned later, either from David or Shawn. I’m going to touch briefly on that.

Monday morning, Shawn quit his job. He didn’t tell me about this until Wednesday the 29th. I know that Shawn had been thinking about quitting, but he knew I’d be mad if he did.

He told me that he went into work Monday, turning in his coveralls, and to clean out his locker.

Then he went to his grandmother’s house in Dunn, but they didn’t answer the door, so he came down to I-20. He didn’t come into C. City, just to I-20, and went to Big Spring.

He got to Big Spring before 8 o’clock, and he knows that because his mother wasn’t, hadn’t left for work yet. He stayed there until just after two.

When he left to come to Colorado City, Shawn said that around two, he left to come to Colorado City.

Shawn said that he didn’t get home until around, or a little after, three.

Hailey left just about 15 minutes after he got here.

David told me that he and a friend came home Monday sometime between four and five. The door was locked. He knocked for several minutes before reaching in through, the glass was, had been broken out. Hailey broke it with a basketball. He reached in through there, and unlocked the door.

When David and his friend walked in the house, Shawn was coming from my bedroom, where he had been watching TV. They all said ‘Hi. What’s up?’ to each other, and then David and, Shawn returned to my bedroom, and David and his friend went to David’s room.

Shawn remained home until he left to go pick me up from work.

One other thing I want to mention is that it’s been reported that we hosted a New Year’s Eve party at our house. This is an absurdity beyond belief. Members of my family were at my house to be with me in this time of distress, and to worry about Hailey.

While I sincerely appreciate the time and effort of law enforcement agents, the law enforcement agents are pretty in to investigate Hailey’s disappearance. I do not understand why they seem to have disregarded all of the witnesses who have come forward to say they saw Hailey on Monday, December 27th.

Two of my neighbors came forward to say they saw Hailey in my back yard around noon.

Another neighbor said he saw Hailey and a small dark boy, probably Naomi’s son, two times between 10:30 and noon.

A woman who knows Hailey, and the friend she was supposed to spend the night with, saw them both walking together in front of Alco around 8:30pm. This woman was returning a movie to the Redbox, and passed by them. She still had a receipt, and brought it by and showed it to me the other day, with the date of the 27th, and the time of 8:36.

I also don’t understand law enforcement’s reluctance to publicly name any other persons of interest, and for whatever reason they are unable to locate someone to question them, then why not take advantage of the media to get their name and description out, and let public find them?

Investigators keep telling me about numerous other people that they are interested in questioning, but there is no sense of urgency to actually get it done. It has been over a month since Hailey has disappeared. Knowing that someone might have information about Hailey, but law enforcement have still not gotten around to questioning them, is disturbing to me.

While I am not trying to deflect suspicion away from anyone, I do absolutely want every single person who may have information about Hailey, or her whereabouts, checked out. In my mind, not to have already done this, is negligence.

It’s been over a month, and we seem no closer to knowing where Hailey is than we did in the beginning. She needs to be found, to come home, to be surrounded by everyone who loves her.

I want to take this opportunity to thank my family and friends, who continue to stand by and support me unconditionally, and are always there for me.

I want to thank Marc Klaas and Brad Dennis who are both great guys, that are willing to do whatever it takes to find Hailey, for continuing to stay in contact with me, and offer their help,.

Thank you to the Laura Recovery Center, who came down and organized searches, and trained volunteers.

Thank you to all of the people who have searched for Hailey, to everyone who is praying for Hailey’s safe return, and everyone who has brought me everything from cooked meals, to groceries, to ‘Find Hailey’ tshirts, and handmade cards.

Thank you to Diena, with the Somer Thompson Foundation, who ordered me a grant.

Thanks to the media who are keeping Hailey’s picture on TV and in the newspapers, so that she is in the front of everyone’s mind.

Although I have not, and will not ask for money, I greatly appreciate those who have found it in their hearts to want to help me. What I want most are your prayers for Hailey’s safe return.

There are some people who are going around demanding or begging for money. I am disgusted that these individuals who never held down jobs are exploiting Hailey to get a handout. I’ve always worked and supported my kids by myself, and I will return to work as soon as I am able.

I do not want a handout, and if anyone asks for money on my behalf, please know the request isn’t coming from me, and I’m not getting money.

I do hope this will lay to rest the confusion and speculation surrounding Hailey’s disappearance, on my part anyway. I do not want to have to defend myself or anyone else. I only want to concentrate on Hailey and everything that can be done to bring her back home.

I will continue to hold onto the hope that Hailey is alive, and that she will be home soon. I ask that everyone out there also hold onto the hope that she is alive.

Please continue to look for Hailey when you’re in a store, when you’re driving down the street, wherever you go.

Whatever you do, please do not give up hope that my daughter Hailey is alive, and out there somewhere.

Thank you to everybody that came out, and everybody that can get all of that aired or typed up. I just really appreciate all of you guys coming out, and giving me the opportunity (unintelligible).

(Off-camera question: Billie, I know you’re trying to clear up rumors. What is your and Shawn’s relationship now? There’s rumors going around about that.)

We’re friendly. We talk on the phone, but I’m not going to take any questions just because I don’t want my statement cut into. I’ll do interviews again tomorrow and every day, all day. Hopefully.

Thank you.

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/01/31/hailey-dunn-billie-jean-dunn-press-conference-january-31-transcription-1/

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Billie's Timeline Handout

http://www.newswest9.com/Global/link.asp?L=474268


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Fanny Mae on February 06, 2011, 06:56:51 PM
Does anyone know how to keep check of the docket arrests in Mitchell County, Tx. Since the LE obviously thinks so little of keeping the public informed of anything, I doubt if they would even state it if they made an arrest. We're dealing with the "keeping it close to the vest" guys. Since this is SuperBowl Sunday, I doubt if anyone is minding the office today anyhow. Yep! Now THAT was intended to be snarky, very snarky.

But it would be interesting who has been arrested on "periphery type" people, and for what charges. You know, like uncles, cousins, best friends who answers doors and the like. That the way things get squeezed sometimes. Not so sure the LE has that much intelligence to try that, but who knows.  :smt102  jmo

I don't know how to check who's waiting to be booked; I know someone on the boards knows how to because we were trying to find Mona Nelson when all that was going on.

I did find this:  https://www.vinelink.com/vinelink/searchResultsAction.do?searchType=offender&siteId=44900&searchWhere=state&agency=301&id=&lastName=Adkins&firstName=Shawn&dob=&ageRange=2&methodToCall=search  aka http://tinyurl.com/4zcrhyp  and it looks like you can put in certain peoples' names, like SA for example.  But it wouldn't show them if they were waiting to be booked.

Thanks STARWYN. I'll see if I can get one of the best diggers to see what she can find. I'm not really good at it. Heart is also another good digger. She is usually posting on the Hailey thread.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Fanny Mae on February 06, 2011, 07:06:57 PM
"Authorities announced at a press conference Saturday that a revived effort is being made to find missing Colorado City, Texas teenager, Hailey Dunn."

Continue reading on Examiner.com: http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/hailey-dunn-update-police-say-search-continues-for-missing-texas-teen

(The rest of it is really a regurgitation of information we already know.)

http://www.mywesttexas.com/top_stories/article_590d96f9-0711-5a91-a2f7-dc8382b00b5e.html
Police, searchers still looking for Hailey Dunn
<snipped>She said they had about 10 volunteers searching specific areas Saturday, but will begin canvassing Howard County soon. She also said the primary reason for the press conference to let the community know the police are still actively searching for Dunn and to recruit new volunteers.>

A link I got from your link.




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 06, 2011, 07:08:35 PM
Portions of Clint Dunn Radio Interview, January 6, 2011, Transcribed

Audio file for this interview is on the Reference Info page. Best sound quality was achieved by downloading the audio file, and then playing it in Windows Media, rather than using the default audio player.

Work in Progress – I apologize this is taking me so long to finish. I’m going to start in on it again this tomorrow morning (Sunday, Feb 6) and hopefully get it wrapped up. Thank you for your patience.

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Clint: We live about a half a block apart.

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Host: Naomi, were you home the day that Hailey went missing?

Naomi: Yes, I was.

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Naomi: Me and Clint were at home. His back had been thrown out from working, and so he had asked for the day off, and we stayed in, and relaxed, and kind of munched out that day, and David came over, and he kind of told us that Hailey hadn’t been home in a while, and that his mom had called him and told him to find out if she was at the girl’s house, or if she had left from there and went somewhere else, so after we had told David that she hadn’t been there, ’cause I had thought originally that she might have came by that morning, but I remembered that that was the morning before, which was Saturday, and I guess David had went back over to the house, and he, I guess he had called his mom back off of her cell phone at the hospital, and told her that we had never seen Hailey that day, and so she reported Hailey missing.

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Naomi: I kind of slept mostly all day Monday. I wasn’t feeling good, and when David came over to tell us that I was laying on the couch with our daughter Chloe.

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Naomi: No. She never came over Monday.

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Naomi: She was supposed to go over to her friend’s house – Mary Beth – to stay the night, and she never made it over there, and the little girl said that Hailey never even asked to stay the night.

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Host: Okay, so was she (Hailey) with a teenage boy that day, or…?

Naomi: No, she, from what Shawn Adkins says, that, she was at home, and then she said she was gonna come over and see her dad at our house, and then she was gonna walk over to her friend’s house and stay the night, which would be Mary Beth’s, but she never made it to neither place. Now, I don’t know if she was with anybody, because I, I really didn’t watch over there too much.

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Clint: We stayed in an apartment, and from our back doorstep you could look straight across the field, and you could see the front door of Hailey’s house.

Clint: It’s (just like?) a vacant field right there with grass.

Clint: Yeah, it’s pretty, it’s pretty grassy around here.

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Naomi: Hailey, like we had said, Hailey had stayed the night, Sunday, and she had took her earrings out because her mom had let her get her top ear lobe pierced, and her ears were sore, and so she took her ears, her earrings out, and kind of dropped them on the floor beside the couch, and she said, “Naomi, if you find those later, will you put them up?”, and I said, “Yes.”.

Well, I had only found one of the red earrings, and I think it was Saturday that I had found the earring, and

Clint: It was…

Naomi: or was it? It was Monday that I found the earring, excuse me, and set it up on my shelf, and David had came over and got it, and took it over to his mom, and I didn’t even know he took it over there, and I guess she had said that he had found it.

Host: And why is this such a big deal?

Naomi: I have no idea.

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Host: what you think about Billie’s reaction to the media, her response to the media?

Clint: Well, she’s, I could try to ask you where you’re going with that because she’s responded I don’t know how many different ways. You know, she’s tried to throw me underneath the bus, and she’s, you know, she’s done a lot of tactics here. I don’t know why she keeps coming up with inconclusive statements, but you know, I don’t know, at first, I’m the one that was calling the media, telling them to go over there and interview her while I was out following up on leads, and making flyers, and tshirts, and buttons, and I was trying to hit some of the interviews as I could. I mean, I really freeze up in front of that camera, so I was calling them over to Billie Jean’s house to do all her interviews.

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Clint: Yes, we was interviewed together several times. We was on the Nancy Grace show, about three, maybe four times, and we was interviewed on the local TV stations several times.

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Host: did Hailey ever want to, ever request to come and live with you?

Clint: Yes, she did. She did several times, and that’s, I was trying to get on my feet, and get a big enough house where I could have her, and we was in the, kind of in the making of me getting her, but yes, she had mentioned several times that she wanted to stay, I mean, she liked me a lot more. She’s a daddy’s girl, and of course, I love her to death, and yeah, I definitely, we was definitely gonna have her living with us pretty soon, and when we get her back, she will be living with us also. She’ll be living with me.

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Host: interview yesterday that Billie had done… are you willing to let us know about that interview that was stated yesterday?

Clint: Yeah, I heard parts of it. They didn’t release every bit of it, but each news station released parts of it, so it was basically giving a timeline of, her timeline of the events that happened during Hailey’s disappearance, and she wanted to try to clarify some things up that were said to be inconclusive things that were said, and yeah, it was like a fifteen minute long speech.

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Host: how do you feel about that interview that she (Billie) did?

Clint: Well, I kind of think she was mainly doing it to keep the media involved, and to try to keep this a headline story to keep Hailey’s face exposed in, on the news and in the media. I mean, she, I guess, she’s trying to defend herself also, ’cause she’s been, I mean, she’s been crucified during this whole entire thing, and so she’s trying to defend herself a little bit also.

Host: what do you think has happened to Hailey?

Clint: That’s the question. Oh, that’s the question that I ask myself all day, every day. That’s the question that I could be in the middle of a conversation with somebody, and that question just pops up into my head, and I totally forget what I was talking about. That question right there is, that is the question right there. I have not a clue what happened to my daughter. She’s vanished into thin air.

It’s, you know, I really don’t know what has happened, and you know, I’m, especially that first couple days, and still today, I still am in disbelief that this is, is this really happening? You know, I can’t believe that this is for real. This is not a dream, and yeah, that’s the question right there that everybody wants to know. And I wish that I…

Host: What was your initial gut feeling?

Clint: I didn’t have no gut feeling at all. I was just, like I was just in disbelief, just, I was hoping that she was, I had no gut feeling at all, but I was hoping she would be in an abandoned house somewhere, kind of camping out, you know, and that’s what we did for the first week was, we didn’t have a car or nothing that first two weeks, so that first week was walking around town, checking every abandoned house, walking down the alleys, calling her name, walking in the little bit of wooded areas there in town, and we was just, you know, we, you know, it was just the three of us.

It was me and Naomi and the, our newborn, why Isaiah, while Isaiah was in school, we did everything that we can do without no car. We just walked around town, looking around, and…

Host: were they (Billie and Shawn) also out looking for her also?

Clint: Well, I can’t lie to you. No, they wasn’t. They was, you know, that’s why me and Billie Jean kind of, we haven’t been on the same page since the very beginning of this, because she kind of sits there at her house waiting for her daughter to come in the front door, and I got, I really got frustrated with her over that, and because I just, I’m so wound up, and I’m so full of energy everyday wanting to find out answers, and wanting to find my daughter, and I just can’t see how somebody could sit on the couch comfortable, watching a television program, waiting for their daughter to come in, and so that’s why me and Billie Jean butted heads so hard during all this, and ’cause they haven’t, you know, like the little party they had on New Year’s, you know.

It wasn’t noth…, no big party or nothing, but you know, I did see them carrying in two cases of beer and stuff, ’cause I was steadily watching over there at that house, waiting for Hailey to come or something to happen, and I mean, I’m still like that every day. I’m, I walk down the alley, and taking out the trash, I’m looking both ways, just hoping she’ll come around the corner.

Host: Billie had a van donated to her?

Naomi: Yes.

Clint: Yes. I heard she did. I haven’t, you know, the longer this goes on, the more animosity me and Billie Jean have, so I haven’t seen and speak, spoke with her in a week, and, but somebody had told me that she had gotten a van, and she’s gotten the account opened for her, and she got a grant to pay her bills and stuff.

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Caller: do you have, like, counselors and stuff helping you guys through this?

Clint : Yes. FBI assigned a counselor for trauma situations like this. (crosstalk – talks to us?) just about every day.

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Caller: Do you know why TES has not been able to come in?

Clint: Okay. I called TES about ten days after this has happened, and I spoke to the person who works there, and I asked her if we could get them involved, and they said that they had to get law enforcement get a hold of them.

I called law enforcement. Well, I actually spoke to them in person, and I asked them why don’t they call TES, and try to get them involved in looking for her, and they said that it was just too much of a scatter shot.

They didn’t have an area to pinpoint for them to look, and they couldn’t just have them come in and cover the whole west Texas area, and so, I don’t know, a week ago, I called TES again, and I can not think of his name. It’s Dennis, or Tim, and can’t remember his last name, but I talked to Tim – he’s the owner, and he was said he was gonna get involved, but he said he didn’t want media involved or nothing.

He didn’t want nobody to know, but he was supposed to be here last Monday, and we hadn’t really heard nothing of it, from him since.

He was gonna get Dennis Waters involved with the sonar equipment, and they was gonna check all the lakes and rivers around here, and that, I don’t know, they may have even came in and secretly have done it, but I don’t know, I’ve called them myself, and tried to get them involved, and they said they was, and I don’t know if they have or not.

Caller: Do you feel that LE is doing everything they possibly can?

Clint: Well, you know, I hate to, I hate to criticize them, because I’m sure there’s, there’s people that’s really stayed up on this, and really, their hearts go out to this, and they’re trying hard, but you know, I’m sure that there’s ones that’s just on the clock also.

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Host: How did you feel when they deemed her (Hailey) as a runaway in the beginning?

Clint: It pissed me off because that was one point that I had stressed to the law enforcement that she’s not a runaway, that this would be totally out of her character, and she’s (crosstalk/unintelligible)

Clint: Yeah, we could, you know, we lost vital days there. I mean, I hate to slander the police, but they really mishandled the case the first week. The first entire week, they mishandled the case very bad. They didn’t call out the hound, the bloodhounds didn’t come out until four days after, and so they should have had the bloodhounds there much sooner than that, if they knew that Hailey was walking, so you know, they should have, you know, bunch of rookies up there. I mean it’s not their fault. It’s the state should place these agencies with certified people to handle cases like this, instead of putting a bunch of rookies in one police department.

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Host: do you feel that she (Billie) is being deceptive as most of us feel?

Clint: Well, you know, every day I’m torn from which way I’m going with this. I don’t know what happened to Hailey, you know. That’s, like I said, that’s the big question there is what happened to her, and I’m torn every day.

You know, I’m leaning more toward this. I’m leaning toward that. I’m leaning toward this, and especially after the affidavits come out, I really, man, those hit me really hard, and I didn’t sleep for three days, and because I do know Billie Jean probably better than anybody else in this world, and the way I know her, she would never hurt our baby girl, and then the affidavits come out, and they was saying all kinds of stuff pointing towards Billie Jean.

Is she hiding something? I don’t know. I really can’t tell you because, you know, some of her stuff is kind of iffy, but as good as I know her, man, she would not hurt our baby girl, and I know her pretty good.

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Caller: How is David doing, and how is he coping?

Clint: He’s doing pretty good. I don’t know if you knew, but he had to leave the home.

Caller: mmhmmm

Clint: He’s staying with his uncle, Billie Jean’s brother, and that’s over here in Snyder, where I’m staying, so he’s right around the corner, and I’m seeing him every few days, and went to our first MMA class the other day, and you know what, ’cause I haven’t been involved with David, you know, I’ve called him like once a week since this has started, and you know, I’ve really kind of drove him off to the side and forgot about him, and that’s when I started realizing, you know, hey, I’ve got my boy here, and my other boy, and my daughter. You know, I still got other kids here, and so he’s been coping good.

He’s taking it good in school. You know, they’re not giving him no troubles or nothing at school, but…

Caller: That’s good that he can (unintelligible)

Clint: Yeah, he really is.

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Caller: Did you ever get to see any of the survieillance video that was supposedly had from Alco or the dollar store?

Clint: You know what? That’s something that I really bugged the law enforcement about from day one was the surveillance films from the hotel, where the dogs had picked up Hailey’s scent.

Well, it took them three weeks. Finally, they let me sit down in the room on a computer, and let me look at some surveillance.

Well, for the three hours that I was in there I didn’t get to see not one person checking in or out this hotel.

All the people that I seen was people that was working at the hotel, or the owner of the hotel, the maintenance man, the clerk, and so, you know, I think they just gave me a little bit of B.S. there, just to get rid of me, and they was supposed to give me more surveillance films, and ’cause I want to see everybody that’s checking in or out this hotel.

I want to see if there’s anybody that I might recognize from my past. You know, maybe it’s somebody that I, we got cross-eyed in the past, or like I said, a family member or a friend could do this to you, and so I really wanted me and Billie Jean to set in a room, and study those surveillance films.

I mean, we’re not sleeping already, and so why can’t we use some of our time, and see if maybe we could find some clues there, but no, they never did let me get to see any surveillance film, and I still bug ‘em about it, and I don’t know if I should try to get a lawyer, and try to see what I could do there, but, yeah, they, and they won’t let me have no clues, ’cause I told, they told me that they have over two hundred clues come in, and two hundred leads, and I asked them if I could see any of these leads so I could try to figure this out myself, and they said, “No.”.

It’s, I mean, I really don’t know what’s going on.

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Caller: they don’t involve you and let you see what they have so far?

(crosstalk)

Clint: They keep me and Billie Jean more in the dark than everybody else. We have to find everything out through the media.

I mean, and they’re keeping the media in the, they’re keeping everything in the dark. I mean, it’s like they know something, and they don’t want to let it loose.

I’m not sure but, you know, I’ve, they really are keeping me in the dark, and you know, that makes it more frustrating, and I mean, just, it’s so scary.

(crosstalk)

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Host: is there any people or a person of interest in this case at this point?

Clint: I mean, Shawn Adkins is it. I mean, and obviously he’s been the person of interest from the first, and he was the person in my book. He was at the top of the list also because he was the last one that seen Hailey.

Of course, he’s gonna be at the top of everybody’s book, but I seen law enforcement really looking at him too hard, so that’s why I focused my attention on all these other leads, ‘Cause I had, there’s leads that I had picked up in Odessa, and which is about 150 miles away or so, and I went over there a week after I heard about this lead, and I talked to these people that said that they had seen Hailey, and I’m standing on a street corner, kind of look like a panhandler, had a sign that said, “We need help. We need food and money.”, and she was standing with us all.

Anyways, they said that they had called law enforcement twenty times within that last week, and they never got a hold of them until that night that I was getting a hold of them.

(crosstalk)

Clint: It really frustrates me.

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Host: Who was the other person that threatened Billie and Hailey that Billie is now mentioning. Do you know that, or?

Clint: I’m not sure who Billie Jean is talking about there. I haven’t talked, I mean, since I went to El Paso last week, I haven’t talked to Billie Jean, and I haven’t called her on the phone or anything, and you know, that’s all I know is what you know from that right there.

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/02/03/hailey-dunn-clint-dunn-radio-interview-feb-2-transcription/


Audio:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/03/tonights-show-clint-dunn-speaks-to-set-the-story-straight-and-patty-kreiger-case


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: curiousone on February 06, 2011, 07:09:15 PM
Erm, I really stuck my reply right in the middle of ALL the boxes.  I meant to reply to Curious :

Personally I believe the rumors are absolutely true.  Earlier on this thread, I think the thread before, there is a photograph of his truck in the driveway that was apparently taken at 5 p.m. yesterday.  I wish they had a newspaper or something in front to prove the date, but unfortunately they didn't.  Still, I believe it completely.  I even believe the motel-party rumor, because they would want to not do that where everyone's obviously watching.

I saw that photograph and I do believe I haven't seen that truck there in the past interviews.  The media is now not camped out at her house as much and BD doesn't give a darn what people think when it comes to SA.  She's said she's loved him in the media, she says she's still in contact, etc.  It's all about SA and not about her daughter.

Certainly would like to know more about this motel-party and when did it happen?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 06, 2011, 07:15:15 PM
Re: Billie - Clint - Press Conferences/Interviews - Transcripts

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9407.new#new


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 06, 2011, 07:50:09 PM

Saturday, February 05, 2011
EXCLUSIVE: Billie Jean Dunn Revealed

 
by Peter Hyatt

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html


Transcript:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9407.new#new




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 06, 2011, 08:00:57 PM

Saturday, February 05, 2011
EXCLUSIVE: Billie Jean Dunn Revealed

 
by Peter Hyatt

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html


Transcript:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9407.new#new




Smart monkeys -- it may be gone, but it is still available. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Desdemona on February 06, 2011, 08:19:11 PM
I hadn't seen this interview yet: http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2011/feb/05/hailey-dunn-search-for-girl-changes-a-city/
<snipped>
The law enforcement situation  is worse than I thought.

<snipped>
In the first week of January, local and national law enforcement conducted door-to-door searches of the city. Officers and volunteers have boarded helicopters, horses and four-wheelers.

Agencies, totaling more than 50 officers, that were headquartered in the CC Thompson Room for briefings and instructions have since cleared out.

FBI, Texas Rangers and members of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice have been pulled off until new discoveries require them to return. Members of the Secret Service were in the city the first week, but have also since moved out.
<snipped>

Who in the he77 is looking for Hailey? We were told by a poster she was sure there were people working hard behind the scenes night and day looking for her. She is always in the know about these kinds of things and was positve every thing is being do[ne].


So I ask again.WHO IN THE HE77 IS LOOKING FOR HAILEY?
Fanny, you did not name the poster you refer to here.  So I went back and checked my lone post on p. 39 of the previous thread to make sure it wasn't me.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9340.msg1299999#msg1299999 

Let's see:

"she was sure"  ?
"was positive"  ?
"behind the scenes night and day"  ?
"everything is being done"  ?

Nope, not my post.  Whew.  What a relief.  I was especially glad to be able to confirm that I am not this "she" (who) "is always in the know," since I definitely never claimed to be such, and would by no means appreciate being called that.  At least I HOPE you were not referring to me...
 :2redman: (Can you tell?  Decidedly non-thick skin and fairly useless big-girl panties here.  Oh well.)

In the last thread you wrote, "But for me to believe the LE is very interested in finding her, not so much. So I guess we all have our own opinion, and that is mine. And it makes me very angry to put so little value on a 13 yr old girl's life."
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9340.msg1300028#msg1300028

I strongly disagree with your disparaging statements: that LE are not very interested in finding Hailey, and that they place little value on her life.  But I do agree with you that "we all have our own opinion;" you certainly have the right to state yours as you see fit... as does everyone else.  IMO the opinions of each and every single poster should be afforded EQUAL respect, whether or not we agree.

Oh, and FWIW, it appears to me some of the latest news stories posted in this new thread indicate that investigative progress may be taking place in this case.  Sure do hope it pans out.
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Janet, thank you for the transcripts.
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KatGram, loved your sweet post:
We might disagee sometimes, but we are all on the same page here when it comes to missing children or children. Sometimes, I don't agree with someone's else's opinion and they don't agree with mine, but we are all fine with each other as humans with caring hearts and souls as far as I can see. Our purpose it the same.

What a wonderful sentiment.
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Please forgive the intrusion into the flow of the thread, Monkeys.  As you were.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cecilita on February 06, 2011, 08:28:01 PM
Hi Monkeys,
I am watching the SB and I need I break....i love the black eyed peas but tonight was not a good night for them....my ears are sore!!!! i wish Shakira was there with her hips don't lie, so I could dance  ::MonkeyDevil::
I hope to hear news about Hailey, I am reading ome of the monkey's posts and it seems that Billie is not so trusty..... ::MonkeyEek::
I watched NG  interviews and it seems that she believes what Billie says ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 06, 2011, 08:54:33 PM
Desdemona - this was a totally inappropriate and instigating post.  I have removed it from the thread.  I have no idea why you chose to swoop in and accuse Fanny of something but it was wrong.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 06, 2011, 09:05:03 PM
A couple of statistics about Mitchell County TX to put the momentous task of this search in perspective.  With a land acreage of 910 square miles and a population of around 9,000, it has a population density of 10 people per square mile.  Take away the population of Colorado City, and you are down to about 5 people per square mile.  If it were a state,  it would be only above Wyoming and Alaska.  The surrounding counties are about the same. 

How big is that?  Get in your car and drive thiry miles in one direction and make a left or right hand turn and go another thirty miles.  Continue driving until you complete the square and you have 900 square miles.  The difficulty in finding a body in that amount of area is only compounded by the 100's of places that a could be used as a hiding place.  Oil wells, natural gas wells, water wells are abundant and many inaccessible and unplatted.  There are many small and large bodies of water within the county.  Some are public access but many are on farms and ranches.  Further, a body just left in the elements would have been torn apart and scattered within days of death.  I was told by other searchers that buzzards are not common in that area, so even that signal was lost to those early on in the search. 

I don't want to sound like a negative Nellie and I applaud the searchers for what they are doing, but IMHO finding her is going to take either someone breaking their silence or divine intervention. 



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Lenie on February 06, 2011, 09:53:27 PM
I am really getting confused here on the name thing. Where does Stewart come from for BJD? Also I can find no birth record for BJ with her mothers name (Connie Ostrander). Nor for her sister Shanna. The only marriage license I can find for BJ is with Clint. Maybe she was just using this last name (Stewart) or that is the name she was born with and they did the same thing that BJ did to Clint to allow David to carry his last name?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cookie on February 06, 2011, 10:10:09 PM
In asking if Billie had any close family that was staying with her or supporting her when she is doing press conferences, it appears that no one is really staying with her, right? except for SA if the rumors are true...
If I had a child missing, I would want my family around me..I would want my other child at home with me because I would miss him not being at home.
also, it appears that the LE are not warning others to watch out for their teenage girls, to keep their doors locked..warning girls that there could be a kidnapper in the area etc...What does that tell you? it tells me that they are pretty sure who they think is responsible for Hailey going missing..they just need to connect the dots and put it all together...Billie probably won't believe it even if SA confesses... ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Fanny Mae on February 06, 2011, 10:12:22 PM
Does anyone know how to keep check of the docket arrests in Mitchell County, Tx. Since the LE obviously thinks so little of keeping the public informed of anything, I doubt if they would even state it if they made an arrest. We're dealing with the "keeping it close to the vest" guys. Since this is SuperBowl Sunday, I doubt if anyone is minding the office today anyhow. Yep! Now THAT was intended to be snarky, very snarky.

But it would be interesting who has been arrested on "periphery type" people, and for what charges. You know, like uncles, cousins, best friends who answers doors and the like. That the way things get squeezed sometimes. Not so sure the LE has that much intelligence to try that, but who knows.  :smt102  jmo

I don't know how to check who's waiting to be booked; I know someone on the boards knows how to because we were trying to find Mona Nelson when all that was going on.

I did find this:  https://www.vinelink.com/vinelink/searchResultsAction.do?searchType=offender&siteId=44900&searchWhere=state&agency=301&id=&lastName=Adkins&firstName=Shawn&dob=&ageRange=2&methodToCall=search  aka http://tinyurl.com/4zcrhyp  and it looks like you can put in certain peoples' names, like SA for example.  But it wouldn't show them if they were waiting to be booked.

Thanks STARWYN. I'll see if I can get one of the best diggers to see what she can find. I'm not really good at it. Heart is also another good digger. She is usually posting on the Hailey Haleigh Cummins thread.

Sorry folks.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 06, 2011, 10:12:43 PM
I am really getting confused here on the name thing. Where does Stewart come from for BJD? Also I can find no birth record for BJ with her mothers name (Connie Ostrander). Nor for her sister Shanna. The only marriage license I can find for BJ is with Clint. Maybe she was just using this last name (Stewart) or that is the name she was born with and they did the same thing that BJ did to Clint to allow David to carry his last name?

Naomi Stewart

Hailey Dunn's brother no longer staying at home in Colorado City
By Celinda Emison
Updated Wednesday, January 19, 2011


<snipped>

Clint Dunn and his girlfriend, Naomi Stewart, told the Reporter-News that Hailey had spent Christmas night at Clint Dunn's home.

"She took off those earrings and dropped them by the couch and asked me to put them up for her," Stewart said. "She asked me to pick them up for her, and I only found one of them."

Stewart and Clint Dunn said Hailey walked to the Dollar Store and Alco department store Sunday, not Monday, as Burroughs told police.

"She never came over at all Monday," Stewart said.

"Police have told us surveillance tapes at both stores put Hailey there on Sunday," Clint Dunn said.

<snipped>

http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/19/official-rumor-untrue-missing-colorado-city-teen-h/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Fanny Mae on February 06, 2011, 10:16:02 PM
In asking if Billie had any close family that was staying with her or supporting her when she is doing press conferences, it appears that no one is really staying with her, right? except for SA if the rumors are true...
If I had a child missing, I would want my family around me..I would want my other child at home with me because I would miss him not being at home.
also, it appears that the LE are not warning others to watch out for their teenage girls, to keep their doors locked..warning girls that there could be a kidnapper in the area etc...What does that tell you? it tells me that they are pretty sure who they think is responsible for Hailey going missing..they just need to connect the dots and put it all together...Billie probably won't believe it even if SA confesses... ::MonkeyRoll::

I believe there was a "best friend" who was answering the door, and may have been who was posting at WS in her defense. But I read somewhere recently on the thread she is not there anymore.

I disagree with Billie believing Shawn hurt Hailey. I think Billie knows Shawn hurt Hailey and as I said the other day, Billie loves Shawn more than she loved Hailey. JMO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 06, 2011, 10:48:01 PM
My theory implies that after abruptly leaving his place of employment in Snyder ... Shawn picked up his cousin and uncle ... returned home and retrieved a deceased Hailey and ... drove in the direction of Big Bridge.  It makes sense that a deceased Hailey was deposed of on the route or in the Big Bridge area while his mother was at work.

Maybe ... the cousin and uncle could be offered a plea deal if they tell all.

Janet

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His Mother was at Work

Billie Jean Dunn Press Conference, January 31, 2011, Transcribed


<snipped>

He got to Big Spring before 8 o’clock, and he knows that because his mother wasn’t, hadn’t left for work yet. He stayed there until just after two.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/01/31/hailey-dunn-billie-jean-dunn-press-conference-january-31-transcription-1/


Other Persons of Interest?

VIDEO: Billie Dunn Tries To Dispell Rumors Surrounding Her Daughter's DisappearanceBy POSTED: 6:26 pm CST January 31, 2011
UPDATED: 10:40 pm CST January 31, 2011


Billie expressed frustration with Police that they have not named other suspects, to which Kampfer responded, "Right now, we have lots of suspicion, things that are put together that lead to a person of interest, Shawn Adkins."

He said at this time Law Enforcement may not want to name anyone else, because they don't want to tip off other persons of interest on their investigation.

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26683573/detail.html


A Couple Other People Failed Polygraphs

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 6, 2011 - 20:00   ET


BILLIE DUNN: ... They came, picked him up. He took his. I went in. They told me he failed it. I lost it, of course. I told them I had so much faith in that test.

Then they took me over to the courthouse. I took a polygraph test. I failed it, lost all faith in the test. A couple of other people failed it. One guy I do not know. One person took it three times, took it twice and failed it...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/06/ng.01.html


The Uncle?

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 6, 2011 - 20:00   ET


GRACE: What about that, Billie? I know that she was seen by neighbors around lunchtime, noon in the backyard by herself, talking on a cell phone, right?

DUNN: Right. And I`m guessing the police would have asked that same neighbor, was my car here yet? Was Shawn home yet? They`ve talked to his mom and an uncle who stopped by his mom`s house saying that he was there.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/06/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 06, 2011, 11:24:56 PM
In asking if Billie had any close family that was staying with her or supporting her when she is doing press conferences, it appears that no one is really staying with her, right? except for SA if the rumors are true...
If I had a child missing, I would want my family around me..I would want my other child at home with me because I would miss him not being at home.
also, it appears that the LE are not warning others to watch out for their teenage girls, to keep their doors locked..warning girls that there could be a kidnapper in the area etc...What does that tell you? it tells me that they are pretty sure who they think is responsible for Hailey going missing..they just need to connect the dots and put it all together...Billie probably won't believe it even if SA confesses... ::MonkeyRoll::

What I just cannot rap my brain around is how this rock for a human heard what her boyfriend said about her daughter & still is with him.  I know if someone had the audacity to call my precious babygirl (13 or otherwise) promiscuous and imply that she took drugs when it was a complete lie that person would be missing all their teeth & picking their manhood up off the floor, certainly not canoodling with him in bed...but snit that's just me!  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on February 06, 2011, 11:45:35 PM
Good evening monkey friends !
I was under the eather today, so slept,
& rested on the sofa. Stomach issues suck !

Billie is like a clone of our ex daughter in law.
Passive, & so ridiculously naive that she cannot admit
that she Shawn did something to her daughter.

Loyal to Shawn, puts her children on the back burner. IF my daughter
were missing, IF it was suggested by social workers that my ONLY,
other child be placed outside of mt home, I would go and stay with him.

I sense that she is very dependant on Shawn, and it is NOT really
love, lust and dependancy.

The family dynamics of Billie amaze me. Why hasn't her family (Mother, etc.)
spoken to the public, and have they been with her ? It appears that
this a her and Shawn thing, and he isn't even Hailey's Father.

A gal on FB chat stated that his truck is parked at Billie's, and he is the only
one who leaves the home. Billie stays there all day & watches the tube ? Geeez !

Is this her way of telling the world that it is a waste of time search ?

NONE of reactins appear normal. IF I lose one of our dogs or cats in the house, I panic !
How can this Mother not cry out for her daughter ? NO ONE IS THAT STABLE. Is she perhaps low Q , or have some type of mental disability ?
What the  heck is the deal with this chick ?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on February 06, 2011, 11:51:09 PM
In asking if Billie had any close family that was staying with her or supporting her when she is doing press conferences, it appears that no one is really staying with her, right? except for SA if the rumors are true...
If I had a child missing, I would want my family around me..I would want my other child at home with me because I would miss him not being at home.
also, it appears that the LE are not warning others to watch out for their teenage girls, to keep their doors locked..warning girls that there could be a kidnapper in the area etc...What does that tell you? it tells me that they are pretty sure who they think is responsible for Hailey going missing..they just need to connect the dots and put it all together...Billie probably won't believe it even if SA confesses... ::MonkeyRoll::

What I just cannot rap my brain around is how this rock for a human heard what her boyfriend said about her daughter & still is with him.  I know if someone had the audacity to call my precious babygirl (13 or otherwise) promiscuous and imply that she took drugs when it was a complete lie that person would be missing all their teeth & picking their manhood up off the floor, certainly not canoodling with him in bed...but snit that's just me!  ::MonkeyMad::

Reading between the lines.....did Shawn say these awful things about Hailey because that IS how he thought ? Did he talk or force her into doing things ?

IF Hailey told her Mother, Billie appears to me to be the type of person that would not see the wrong by Shawn's actions,
she would possibly blame Hailey for dressing promiscuous or coming on or flaunting herself to Shawn. She is a sick in the head chick.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: curiousone on February 07, 2011, 12:26:26 AM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339146

A week after Hailey's mom said there is another person who should be looked at, Clint Dunn reacts.

Hailey's father says yes, there is a potential person to be looked at. "He needs to be looked at because we knows the family good. People who know Hailey the best need to be looked at first. He's up there at the top of the list of people that need to be looked at," said Dunn

Dunn said nobody can be ruled at. "We don't know what's happened here. There's not a clue so we have to expect the unexpected."
((snipped))


Edit:  Recently we have been asked to "snip" articles and not post the entire thing.  It's a copyright issue.  Personally I like having the entire article posted but I have to follow the rules like everyone else.  I snipped this one for you    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Shell on February 07, 2011, 03:11:07 AM
Good morning monkeys

Its Superbowl Sunday...yet I cannot muster being excited about it when I otherwise would be.  This case, along with countless others is weighing heavy on my heart & mind, I just cannot shake it like I once did albeit it always difficult...maybe that is because I've just reached a personal boiling point for the horrors we face daily or maybe its personal frustration because in recent years I havent been physically contributing constructively as I once did due to health reasons, I'm not sure I can put my finger on it.   I do know that my "furbabies" get more respect, care & unconditional love than the victims we cry over, unfortunately daily.  I do know that as a mother, a single one for much of the formative years, there hasnt been a day that has gone by that I havent been eternally grateful for my blessings & taken that honor to its highest level of respect & responsibility each & every day.  I do know that as a mother, I've been like a lion in a den if anyone has even attempted to hurt my children, protected countless of other's children as well thru the years...it will always mystify me how that natural instinct & basic skill level is so easily discarded by all too many, all too often selfishly & callously. 

We cry but our children of the world suffer beyond measure...to my dismay it will never end & I think that realization has irreversibly broken my heart & admittedly I'm struggling to make sure it doesnt break my spirit as well.

Today being a blessed Sunday for many of us, but even for those that have different days they hold as holy...let's take a moment to pray & reflect that this world will see a day that these travesties on humanity will minimize greatly, many learn by them...victims never forgotten  ::MonkeyAngel::

Expressed beautifully Capp. I am, like you "struggling to make sure it doesnt break my spirit as well". *It has already broken my heart. Many times.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Shell on February 07, 2011, 03:22:15 AM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339146

A week after Hailey's mom said there is another person who should be looked at, Clint Dunn reacts.

Hailey's father says yes, there is a potential person to be looked at. "He needs to be looked at because we knows the family good. People who know Hailey the best need to be looked at first. He's up there at the top of the list of people that need to be looked at," said Dunn

Dunn said nobody can be ruled at. "We don't know what's happened here. There's not a clue so we have to expect the unexpected."
((snipped))


Edit:  Recently we have been asked to "snip" articles and not post the entire thing.  It's a copyright issue.  Personally I like having the entire article posted but I have to follow the rules like everyone else.  I snipped this one for you    ::MonkeyCool::

Well great, but (Billie) I would rule *in the live in dude that lied about the day Hailey went missing and was the last known person to see your daughter alive, and who told on a lie (In my opinion, he is the only person alive who says she said she was going to Dad's or MB;s) as the her whereabouts.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Shell on February 07, 2011, 03:26:50 AM
Good evening monkey friends !
I was under the eather today, so slept,
& rested on the sofa. Stomach issues suck !

Billie is like a clone of our ex daughter in law.
Passive, & so ridiculously naive that she cannot admit
that she Shawn did something to her daughter.

Loyal to Shawn, puts her children on the back burner. IF my daughter
were missing, IF it was suggested by social workers that my ONLY,
other child be placed outside of mt home, I would go and stay with him.

I sense that she is very dependant on Shawn, and it is NOT really
love, lust and dependancy.

The family dynamics of Billie amaze me. Why hasn't her family (Mother, etc.)
spoken to the public, and have they been with her ? It appears that
this a her and Shawn thing, and he isn't even Hailey's Father.

A gal on FB chat stated that his truck is parked at Billie's, and he is the only
one who leaves the home. Billie stays there all day & watches the tube ? Geeez !

Is this her way of telling the world that it is a waste of time search ?

NONE of reactins appear normal. IF I lose one of our dogs or cats in the house, I panic !
How can this Mother not cry out for her daughter ? NO ONE IS THAT STABLE. Is she perhaps low Q , or have some type of mental disability ?
What the  heck is the deal with this chick ?

Just guessing...low IQ and low self esteem, self centered, stuck in a dream world, naive...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Shell on February 07, 2011, 03:28:05 AM


The after midnight hour, when all is quiet. See ya later  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Shell on February 07, 2011, 05:16:10 AM
In asking if Billie had any close family that was staying with her or supporting her when she is doing press conferences, it appears that no one is really staying with her, right? except for SA if the rumors are true...
If I had a child missing, I would want my family around me..I would want my other child at home with me because I would miss him not being at home.
also, it appears that the LE are not warning others to watch out for their teenage girls, to keep their doors locked..warning girls that there could be a kidnapper in the area etc...What does that tell you? it tells me that they are pretty sure who they think is responsible for Hailey going missing..they just need to connect the dots and put it all together...Billie probably won't believe it even if SA confesses... ::MonkeyRoll::

What I just cannot rap my brain around is how this rock for a human heard what her boyfriend said about her daughter & still is with him.  I know if someone had the audacity to call my precious babygirl (13 or otherwise) promiscuous and imply that she took drugs when it was a complete lie that person would be missing all their teeth & picking their manhood up off the floor, certainly not canoodling with him in bed...but snit that's just me!  ::MonkeyMad::

Reading between the lines.....did Shawn say these awful things about Hailey because that IS how he thought ? Did he talk or force her into doing things ?

IF Hailey told her Mother, Billie appears to me to be the type of person that would not see the wrong by Shawn's actions,
she would possibly blame Hailey for dressing promiscuous or coming on or flaunting herself to Shawn. She is a sick in the head chick.

You mentioned him (Shawn) talking or forcing Hailey into doing things. That has crossed my mind too. Therefore he says she did drugs and was promiscuous.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Shell on February 07, 2011, 05:18:31 AM
A couple of statistics about Mitchell County TX to put the momentous task of this search in perspective.  With a land acreage of 910 square miles and a population of around 9,000, it has a population density of 10 people per square mile.  Take away the population of Colorado City, and you are down to about 5 people per square mile.  If it were a state,  it would be only above Wyoming and Alaska.  The surrounding counties are about the same. 

How big is that?  Get in your car and drive thiry miles in one direction and make a left or right hand turn and go another thirty miles.  Continue driving until you complete the square and you have 900 square miles.  The difficulty in finding a body in that amount of area is only compounded by the 100's of places that a could be used as a hiding place.  Oil wells, natural gas wells, water wells are abundant and many inaccessible and unplatted.  There are many small and large bodies of water within the county.  Some are public access but many are on farms and ranches.  Further, a body just left in the elements would have been torn apart and scattered within days of death.  I was told by other searchers that buzzards are not common in that area, so even that signal was lost to those early on in the search. 

I don't want to sound like a negative Nellie and I applaud the searchers for what they are doing, but IMHO finding her is going to take either someone breaking their silence or divine intervention. 


::MonkeyTears:: Let's pray for divine intervention.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Shell on February 07, 2011, 05:19:52 AM


Good Night (again) hope and pray for divine intervention


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: melisb on February 07, 2011, 08:38:08 AM
Good evening monkey friends !
I was under the eather today, so slept,
& rested on the sofa. Stomach issues suck !

Billie is like a clone of our ex daughter in law.
Passive, & so ridiculously naive that she cannot admit
that she Shawn did something to her daughter.

Loyal to Shawn, puts her children on the back burner. IF my daughter
were missing, IF it was suggested by social workers that my ONLY,
other child be placed outside of mt home, I would go and stay with him.

I sense that she is very dependant on Shawn, and it is NOT really
love, lust and dependancy.

The family dynamics of Billie amaze me. Why hasn't her family (Mother, etc.)
spoken to the public, and have they been with her ? It appears that
this a her and Shawn thing, and he isn't even Hailey's Father.

A gal on FB chat stated that his truck is parked at Billie's, and he is the only
one who leaves the home. Billie stays there all day & watches the tube ? Geeez !

Is this her way of telling the world that it is a waste of time search ?

NONE of reactins appear normal. IF I lose one of our dogs or cats in the house, I panic !
How can this Mother not cry out for her daughter ? NO ONE IS THAT STABLE. Is she perhaps low Q , or have some type of mental disability ?
What the  heck is the deal with this chick ?

Just guessing...low IQ and low self esteem, self centered, stuck in a dream world, naive...


I just wanted to put my one cent in also...I work in the nursing field and I know a zillion of them that I have wondered how they passed a test!!!  It's very easy to read a book and answer correctly but it is not easy to have common sense!  I also live in a very back woods town and see Billie Dunn's all over here.  Totally into their love life and not their kids, often leading to the children turning out just like the parents.  Never had a chance.  Oh, there are the few that can see past this dreadful existance and run and do good but not many.  BD to me isn't very smart and caught up in her own little world.  I'm sure low self esteem but not seen that way to herself.  She thinks she knows it all.  She isn't worried about her daughter, you guys have seen the parents devoted to finding their missing children and she is not.  I can guarantee you money is trickling in by donations (as pretty much stated in her press conf. held outside her home)and the drugs are flowing!  What you see of her or don't see is why Hailey was allowed to run around on her own without any supervision.  Totally self absorbed.  Wouldn't doubt one bit if SA was there.  If someone would point me to a phone number to call someone and ask about that I would.  Newspaper?  I ain't skeered to ask! lol


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Lenie on February 07, 2011, 08:40:03 AM
I am really getting confused here on the name thing. Where does Stewart come from for BJD? Also I can find no birth record for BJ with her mothers name (Connie Ostrander). Nor for her sister Shanna. The only marriage license I can find for BJ is with Clint. Maybe she was just using this last name (Stewart) or that is the name she was born with and they did the same thing that BJ did to Clint to allow David to carry his last name?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: melisb on February 07, 2011, 08:45:20 AM
OMG!!! That comment above looked liked a nurse bash!!  I have more respect for them than most doctors!!  In no way do I mean anything by that.  I was only describing those like BD. To me a true nurse who cares for her patients are the ones who make the world go round!  Not only is too much work put on them but they are beside the patient the whole time carrying out docs orders and the reason it gets done and patients get better!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cookie on February 07, 2011, 08:58:59 AM
I don't know a lot about fetal alcohol poisoning but what I have seen and read in recognizing it is very wide set eyes..just one of the characteristics..from the first time that I saw Billie I wondered if maybe she was a baby born with fetal alcohol poisoning? hope this isn't too far fetched in wondering that..but what do we know about her parents? I am probably wayyyyy off base on this but just wondering if this could be a reason for her weird demeanor? dunno...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 08:59:23 AM
Good morning everyone.

I know the transcript has been posted of the interview between Peter and Clint, but has since been taken down on Peter's blog. The reason for this is due to the fact that Clint is receiving alot of grief over it, probably people are giving him a hard time due to the fact he released info that wasn't touched upon before. I tend to think he is waaay more believable than Billie and I'd bank on the fact the police are using that info against Billie. There isn't a doubt in my mind that they already know the info Clint supplied, maybe they just weren't ready for it to be revealed. Remember, Billie doesn't have a lawyer, so if she thinks she isn't a poi, then she'll keep on talking, and le can and will disect that info gleamed & use it against her. I could care less that her "friend" posts online sticking up for her, fighting her battles for her, etc. As a matter of fact, it makes me question what kind of person this friend is and how well connected she is to Billie Jean. Iow, are they just friends, coworkers, neighbors, drug connections, etc. Who really cares, again - bc imo if somebody has to fight her battle for her, then the neglectful mom with a missing daughter and a son that doesn't live with her is even more of an idiot than what she appears to be when she does her lame interviews.

Here's the cached link:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:l7vth1wogvsJ:seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html+EXCLUSIVE:+Billie+Jean+Dunn+Revealed&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 07, 2011, 09:08:10 AM
In asking if Billie had any close family that was staying with her or supporting her when she is doing press conferences, it appears that no one is really staying with her, right? except for SA if the rumors are true...
If I had a child missing, I would want my family around me..I would want my other child at home with me because I would miss him not being at home.
also, it appears that the LE are not warning others to watch out for their teenage girls, to keep their doors locked..warning girls that there could be a kidnapper in the area etc...What does that tell you? it tells me that they are pretty sure who they think is responsible for Hailey going missing..they just need to connect the dots and put it all together...Billie probably won't believe it even if SA confesses... ::MonkeyRoll::

What I just cannot rap my brain around is how this rock for a human heard what her boyfriend said about her daughter & still is with him.  I know if someone had the audacity to call my precious babygirl (13 or otherwise) promiscuous and imply that she took drugs when it was a complete lie that person would be missing all their teeth & picking their manhood up off the floor, certainly not canoodling with him in bed...but snit that's just me!  ::MonkeyMad::

Reading between the lines.....did Shawn say these awful things about Hailey because that IS how he thought ? Did he talk or force her into doing things ?

IF Hailey told her Mother, Billie appears to me to be the type of person that would not see the wrong by Shawn's actions,
she would possibly blame Hailey for dressing promiscuous or coming on or flaunting herself to Shawn. She is a sick in the head chick.

You mentioned him (Shawn) talking or forcing Hailey into doing things. That has crossed my mind too. Therefore he says she did drugs and was promiscuous.

Those types of comments (bolded) would be very likely to come out of a perp's mouth.  They blame the victim to rationalize their behavior.  Throw in the drugs, and inappropriate advances toward Hailey by SA would not be far stretch of the imagination.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 09:16:23 AM
A few things from Peter's blog interview with Clint, which are indeed interesting:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:l7vth1wogvsJ:seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html+EXCLUSIVE:+Billie+Jean+Dunn+Revealed&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

SnipBillie is also quite clever and knows how to manipulate or game the system. She even tricked Clint (and the local school district) into signing some papers that he thought gave him David in adoption, as his son, allowing David to use the name, "Dunn" legally. Clint is proud of David. Billie's papers didn't mean that Clint adopted David. Billie tricked him, and she tricked the school district. Billie is clever, he explained.

Snip
Billie thought she'd pay rent and some other bills in a way that had become familiar to her:
She bought cocaine.
She was pretty sure she had been ripped off by the dealer, but had gone home with it, "quartered it" for sales, and was set to make money.
She left it home and went out, but when she returned, she found that Shawn had taken all four quarters and snorted it up his nose; every last bit of it.
Shawn put Shawn's desire to get high over her desire to make money.
This may be an indication as to why Shawn rolled over and gave the police plenty of information for the affidavit. The instability that goes along with addiction is evident.
Billie fumed and broke up with him. It is one thing to threaten Hailey, but quite another to blow her drugs that were meant for sale.

Snip
Clint said that Billie once took a chemical and burned her own son's back with initials "UFC".

Snip
For those of us who don't recognize the letters, (I thought it was USC, as in University of Southern California; perhaps a football reference), it stands for Ultimate Fighting Championship. This may have had to been investigated by child protective services. Clint was going to call CPS when Billie heard of it, so, he said, she called first and reported that Hailey had seen a mushroom at his brother's house. She thought she could be the first to call, to deflect attention away from her.
Billie Dunn scarred by burning her own son's back the words "tap out" with an acid-like chemical after putting in "UFC".

Snip
Clint also reported that Shawn had a serious jealously issue. He was especially incensed when Billie took a new job...
as a stripper.

Snip
Clint said that Billie was, early on, anti drug, in particular, against his use of marijuana, which he says he takes for pain rather than narcotics. Billie did, however, begin to take hydrocodone when they were together, though she had no pain, and likely increased her drug use greatly in the past two years with Shawn, who she has been with far longer than she likes to report. Just one week after kicking Clint out, Hailey told him that Shawn was spending the night there. He said she took it just "to get high" and didn't need it for any injury or painful condition.

Snip
Clint said that several times in the investigation, Billie tried to "throw me under the bus" and was playing games about the missing earring. He said that on Christmas Hailey had come over (he previously said that Billie got Hailey's upper ear lobes pierced and that she took out her earrings because her ears were sore) but on the next day, Hailey did not come over. She had taken them out and lost one of them.

Snip
I asked him about the broken window.

He said that it was he who revealed that David had to break open the window to get in since Shawn had locked him out. He told David, "you must tell the police!" but instead of telling the police, David told his mother.

Snip
Clint said he was arrested for possession of a small "bud" of marijuana. This may have been something that Billie could use to "throw under the bus" but he would rather be open about it.
I asked him about his criminal record and he said that he has gotten in trouble for marijuana, which, he believes, is a natural plant to use, better than synthetic pain killers which he had taken in the past, to help for pain relief and would eventually like to move to a State where it can be used legally. He said that he was arrested when he was 17 (theft) but hasn't gotten into trouble since. He said he is open about his beliefs that marijuana is better for pain relief than prescription medication.

Snip
He said that he and Naomi and their newborn, Chloe, searched on foot everywhere until his father gave him a car, which allowed him to cover more ground. He continues to search.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cookie on February 07, 2011, 09:16:31 AM
snip flutter's post:
Those types of comments (bolded) would be very likely to come out of a perp's mouth.  They blame the victim to rationalize their behavior.  Throw in the drugs, and inappropriate advances toward Hailey by SA would not be far stretch of the imagination.

I agree...totally!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 09:18:36 AM
OMG!!! That comment above looked liked a nurse bash!!  I have more respect for them than most doctors!!  In no way do I mean anything by that.  I was only describing those like BD. To me a true nurse who cares for her patients are the ones who make the world go round!  Not only is too much work put on them but they are beside the patient the whole time carrying out docs orders and the reason it gets done and patients get better!

No way Melis! You're posts are always thoughtful as well as thought provoking. I didn't look like a nurse bash session to me. You're sincere, and post from your perspective, and it's greatly appreciated, at least by my opinion.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 09:40:20 AM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339146

Snip
Hailey's father says yes, there is a potential person to be looked at. "He needs to be looked at because we knows the family good. People who know Hailey the best need to be looked at first. He's up there at the top of the list of people that need to be looked at," said Dunn

Dunn said nobody can be ruled at. "We don't know what's happened here. There's not a clue so we have to expect the unexpected," added Clint Dunn.

The unnamed person, who authorities are yet to indentify, may be a person close to the Dunn family. Both Billie and Clint said this person is somebody who knows the family well. They said investigators haven't been able to find this person to bring in for questioning. "That brings us to the point where we think that the police are not doing what they're supposed to be doing. They're sitting there twiddling their thumbs , which we don't know, he may just be a hard person to find," Dunn said.

There is also video at the link.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: melisb on February 07, 2011, 09:41:26 AM
Thank you Titch for the cached link and the kind words!  I'm not college edumakated, long winded and things from the heart often come out wrong but I do hurt deeply for these children and the parents who really do care.  I am amazed at CD's honesty.  He too is not that smart and prolly doesn't know when to shut up but he does seem truthful.  Down to the fact that he will tell the truth on himself even though it might hurt him.  I kinda like that about someone.  Billie is like I said without a lick of common sense but totally self absorbed.  Ya know, I can over look the stripping (who was with the kids at home during those nights? SA?) but it often brings bad contacts, drugs, men led on for money and then burned by the stripper.  I just have known so many low lifes in the past and they remind me of BD.  BD tried to be good and be a nurse but knowing her now I wouldn't hesitate to say she'd be the type to withold meds from a patient and keep them to herself.  IMO!!!  I have no doubt that Clint prolly bought drugs from BD before and that is why she or HD told him the coke story.  They had too much on each other and I am glad CD outed himself.  She put this child in harms way more than one could imagine!  There is no telling what type of perv came to the house to purchase drugs from BD or SA?  HD and DD would have to know what was going on.  This may not have been going on recently but I doubt it.  Oh, BD why aren't you crying for your child, why aren't you running up and down the street sreaming her name.  Sorry to be so graphic but I would be puking my guts out at the thoughts of what could have been done to my daughter!  After the first 24 hours I would need to be seriously doped up and in a straight jacket.  How does one eat, sleep and function knowing what can happen?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 09:57:10 AM
No thanks necessary Melis. I'm just callin' it as I see it honeybunch!

As far as how I perceive Clint, well I know this will not make me best friends with many people online, but I could give a crap about his smoking pot. Imo, weed should be legalized anyway. Smoking weed doesn't make somebody mean, it mellows them out...unless it's cut with something. No, before anyone asks, I personally don't smoke weed - or anything else for that matter - but it's my honest personal opinion as well as observation. Illegal is illegal, I know this, but there are multiple ways around that.

I find Clint to be honest and forthcoming. It speaks for his character imo. He may not be a Harvard grad but he speaks with integrity, honesty, and respect. He could be calling Billie and Shawn every name under the sun...but he isn't. He still sticks up for Billie informing he doesn't believe she would hurt their daughter. He's still wanting for this other person to be looked at, but le are having a hard time finding this person to question. He informs he's made mistakes, which we all see anyway, and he's forthcoming about everything but still keeps on trucking in his search for his daughter. Imo, it speaks well for his character. Maybe he's learned a very tough lesson...later in life rather than early...but at least he's finally getting it in his head what he needs to do and how he needs to be. He worries about his family, that is apparent in his interview. It didn't seem to be apparent in Billie's initial interviews...actually, it's still not apparent in her interviews.

I applaud Clint Dunn for showing tact and respect...as well as honesty & being forthright.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 10:12:27 AM
One think I do believe: Billie will never be able to be a "nurse" again, not even if she went back to college or a vocational institute to learn all over again...not even if she petitioned the court...and I'd certainly question what kind of medical facility of any kind would employ her in light of her using acid to burn Tap Out and UFC on her son's back. I mean, what kind of person does that? Even if it was a mild chemical such as those used for facial or back acne, it would need to be professionally applied by a doctor authorized to do so. If those marks are still on her son's back, then it becomes evidence to be used against Billie. Again, no matter how mild this acid could have been would be beside the point, it is against the rules of the medical board that would have given Billie her license. Furthermore, in case anyone has questions in their heads about tattooing, even if Billie were to have used ink to give her son a tattoo instead of using acid to burn it in, she'd have had to be licensed to give tattoos in order for a medical board to overlook it. They would most certainly not overlook Billie's actions to use acid on her son's back to burn in UFC Tap Out. My GOD.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cookie on February 07, 2011, 10:14:46 AM
who could do that to anyone's back? especially a mom doing that to her child even if the child wanted it done..first of all, I would have refused to do it or to allow him to have it done elsewhere...he is still a child!  Billie is not all there... ::MonkeyNoNo:: she has some serious issues with brain material or something...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 10:16:54 AM
who could do that to anyone's back? especially a mom doing that to her child even if the child wanted it done..first of all, I would have refused to do it or to allow him to have it done elsewhere...he is still a child!  Billie is not all there... ::MonkeyNoNo:: she has some serious issues with brain material or something...

Totally agree.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: melisb on February 07, 2011, 10:38:00 AM
Amen Titch and Cookie!  I will own up to the fact that I smoked pot all the time until I tried and suceeded in getting pregnant.  Even stopped smoking cigarettes during my first few wks of pregnancy and didn't know why!  It mad me sick to inhale cigarettes or even be around them.  Shoulda been first clue!  Anyhoo, I did try to smoke pot about a year after my baby was born but since I had Toxemia so bad the high BP continued and pot agitates my BP so I never tried again but I have nothing against it for anyone else.  It's not for everyone but I do think it should be legalized but hey, who am I to say so!  Even if BD didn't do anything to HD I don't like her and never will.  My back is turned on her fo'eva!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cookie on February 07, 2011, 10:39:26 AM
Amen Titch and Cookie!  I will own up to the fact that I smoked pot all the time until I tried and suceeded in getting pregnant.  Even stopped smoking cigarettes during my first few wks of pregnancy and didn't know why!  It mad me sick to inhale cigarettes or even be around them.  Shoulda been first clue!  Anyhoo, I did try to smoke pot about a year after my baby was born but since I had Toxemia so bad the high BP continued and pot agitates my BP so I never tried again but I have nothing against it for anyone else.  It's not for everyone but I do think it should be legalized but hey, who am I to say so!  Even if BD didn't do anything to HD I don't like her and never will.  My back is turned on her fo'eva!

I don't smoke pot but I don't have a problem with people who do...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: melisb on February 07, 2011, 10:43:51 AM
Amen Titch and Cookie!  I will own up to the fact that I smoked pot all the time until I tried and suceeded in getting pregnant.  Even stopped smoking cigarettes during my first few wks of pregnancy and didn't know why!  It mad me sick to inhale cigarettes or even be around them.  Shoulda been first clue!  Anyhoo, I did try to smoke pot about a year after my baby was born but since I had Toxemia so bad the high BP continued and pot agitates my BP so I never tried again but I have nothing against it for anyone else.  It's not for everyone but I do think it should be legalized but hey, who am I to say so!  Even if BD didn't do anything to HD I don't like her and never will.  My back is turned on her fo'eva!

Should have added I've touched neither one since 1997!  I hear the pot is supremo and rivaling that of the 60's in quality but I'm scared to death to try it now.  Not gonna but it's tempting.  I'm sure after the first hit I'd get so paranoid that I be thinking the SWAT team was outside to haul me out for being a bad parent!  Then I'd make five batched of chocolate chip cookie cake out of pancake batter and eat it all!  Yep, it can be done cause I did it before and couldn't repeat that recipe if I tried!  I'm a riot on it, people used to love having me around when we did it cause I've got a loud, deep belly laugh and it's all funny!  Oh well, I've got good memories and nothing bad ever happened, thank you God for seeing me through!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: MuffyBee on February 07, 2011, 10:52:04 AM
(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width/hash/18/cb/Hailey%20Dunn%207.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 10:57:58 AM
This is a comment from the following link:

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=7866960503698126647

Snipped Comment
Anonymous said...
BillieJean's mother posted on Facebook warning Clint that his dirty laundry would be aired out------on Sunday morning. Sunday evening he no-shows on a radio program. Doesn't take a genius.

Monday, 07 February, 2011

Me: Clint, if you happen to read here, it takes a man to recognize his faults and face them head on...takes an even bigger man to change his ways and move on to make something of himself. If what that commenter said has any truth to it, please just face it head on and get it out there. It will help release the guilt & pain associated with your past. Use this as a stepping point to change. Be better for your family, as well as yourself. Air it all out, no matter how criminal it may sound, then learn from it and move on. The feeling of defeat will be short term as releasing it can only make you stronger. It will indeed help you grow. Be the better person. If everything is aired out sooner rather than later, it would help to squash speculation and rumor. Have faith.

Billie Jean, I'd give you the same advice...however, given your multiple interviews, I somehow think it'll blow in one ear & exit the other.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 11:00:09 AM
Muffy, thank you for the pic of Hailey. She is adorable.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 11:05:40 AM
This is Peter's blog radio recording with his guest Dr Glass and her take on things.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/peter-hyatt/2011/02/06/the-peter-hyatt-show


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 11:16:09 AM
I want to know if the police recorded (video or voice) their interviews with Billie & Shawn. I know the affidavit or warrant informs that Shawn said Hailey was promiscuous, but I specifically remember either Billie or Shawn stating that's not actually what was said...I remember Billie or Shawn saying that what Shawn actually said was that "Hailey was boy crazy". Could the police have used promiscuous in place of boy crazy?

...Just trying to be thorough...

...& I still wanna know more about Walston and Pharris...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 11:22:24 AM
Good morning everyone.

I know the transcript has been posted of the interview between Peter and Clint, but has since been taken down on Peter's blog. The reason for this is due to the fact that Clint is receiving alot of grief over it, probably people are giving him a hard time due to the fact he released info that wasn't touched upon before. I tend to think he is waaay more believable than Billie and I'd bank on the fact the police are using that info against Billie. There isn't a doubt in my mind that they already know the info Clint supplied, maybe they just weren't ready for it to be revealed. Remember, Billie doesn't have a lawyer, so if she thinks she isn't a poi, then she'll keep on talking, and le can and will disect that info gleamed & use it against her. I could care less that her "friend" posts online sticking up for her, fighting her battles for her, etc. As a matter of fact, it makes me question what kind of person this friend is and how well connected she is to Billie Jean. Iow, are they just friends, coworkers, neighbors, drug connections, etc. Who really cares, again - bc imo if somebody has to fight her battle for her, then the neglectful mom with a missing daughter and a son that doesn't live with her is even more of an idiot than what she appears to be when she does her lame interviews.

Here's the cached link:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:l7vth1wogvsJ:seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html+EXCLUSIVE:+Billie+Jean+Dunn+Revealed&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com


Was wondering where you were Titch!

I wonder if Billie's "friend" will be speaking for her tonight when she goes on air to defend herself & Shawn again.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 11:31:36 AM
This is Peter's blog radio recording with his guest Dr Glass and her take on things.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/peter-hyatt/2011/02/06/the-peter-hyatt-show

Tks, this was on my list of things to do this morning.   A comment caught my eye here:

 Nanna Frances said...
I received this reply from my request for Clint to call you. Giving my daughter's dog away would really hurt if she were missing.

Carole-Tim Barrett It's possible Clint is having a bad day. I know he had to give away Hailey's dog today. Please just keep him in your prayers.
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=7866960503698126647


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 11:33:49 AM
I want to know if the police recorded (video or voice) their interviews with Billie & Shawn. I know the affidavit or warrant informs that Shawn said Hailey was promiscuous, but I specifically remember either Billie or Shawn stating that's not actually what was said...I remember Billie or Shawn saying that what Shawn actually said was that "Hailey was boy crazy". Could the police have used promiscuous in place of boy crazy?

...Just trying to be thorough...

...& I still wanna know more about Walston and Pharris...

Tiche

Consider Shawn and Billie's oppositional take on aspects of the affidavits ... I also hope that interrogations sessions were recorded.

Janet

++++++

Boy Crazy?

Person of interest in missing girl case prays for her return
Saturday, January 15, 2011


<snipped>

Adkins told the AP he loves Hailey and that his life has been "flipped upside down" since her disappearance.

"I struggle so hard just to make it through the day," he said. "I can't begin to imagine what Hailey's family, especially her parents and brother are going through."

Adkins said police have misquoted him in affidavits.

In one, police said Adkins at first was "very positive" about Hailey, but that as time went on he indicated she was promiscuous and used drugs. Adkins denied that Friday. He said he had told police Billie and Hailey Dunn had discussed birth control and that he had told investigators the teen was "boy crazy."

<snipped>

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/state&id=7899816


Investigative Purposes?

Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
By Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 2:17 pm CST January 12, 2011


<snipped>

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- KTXS News has obtained documents that show startling facts into the investigation of missing 13-year-old Hailey Dunn that point to Hailey's mother Billie Jean Dunn and her former live-in boyfriend Shawn Adkins as being primary suspects.

Through the Freedom of Information Act, KTXS has received copies of affidavits that were filed by law enforcement officials for the purpose of securing search warrants to search for and seize evidence related to Hailey’s disappearance.

The affidavits contain facts discovered by law enforcement officials and statements made by Billie Dunn, Adkins and others. In all, a total of six search warrants were issued by Mitchell County Judge Ray Mayo.

The information provided in the affidavits does not assign any guilt or innocence. They are used for investigative purposes only, but in being released to the public for the first time, they do provide explosive details about what law enforcement authorities have found.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 11:35:46 AM
Good morning everyone.

I know the transcript has been posted of the interview between Peter and Clint, but has since been taken down on Peter's blog. The reason for this is due to the fact that Clint is receiving alot of grief over it, probably people are giving him a hard time due to the fact he released info that wasn't touched upon before. I tend to think he is waaay more believable than Billie and I'd bank on the fact the police are using that info against Billie. There isn't a doubt in my mind that they already know the info Clint supplied, maybe they just weren't ready for it to be revealed. Remember, Billie doesn't have a lawyer, so if she thinks she isn't a poi, then she'll keep on talking, and le can and will disect that info gleamed & use it against her. I could care less that her "friend" posts online sticking up for her, fighting her battles for her, etc. As a matter of fact, it makes me question what kind of person this friend is and how well connected she is to Billie Jean. Iow, are they just friends, coworkers, neighbors, drug connections, etc. Who really cares, again - bc imo if somebody has to fight her battle for her, then the neglectful mom with a missing daughter and a son that doesn't live with her is even more of an idiot than what she appears to be when she does her lame interviews.

Here's the cached link:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:l7vth1wogvsJ:seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html+EXCLUSIVE:+Billie+Jean+Dunn+Revealed&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com


Was wondering where you were Titch!

I wonder if Billie's "friend" will be speaking for her tonight when she goes on air to defend herself & Shawn again.

I'm so sorry...my boys had wrestling the whole weekend...matter of fact, every single day for the past 2 weeks. It's just too much if ya ask me. At least they're doing what they love & they're keeping busy, off the streets, outta trouble...etc.

I'm really thrown through a loop with this "friend". I mean, the friend may be an awesome person just doing what they believe is the right thing to do. Afterall, isn't that what DeDe did for Terri in Kyron's case? She came to her friend's defense bc she thought/thinks she's innocent of wrong doing. Maybe Billie's friend believes the same thing. Only problem that I have is the info that's come out seems to be disregarded by Billie's friend...as if it has no merit or something. I saw a comment on Topix last week of a so-called cousin of Billie's informing the reason Billie didn't get her license renewed is bc she didn't have the money as she was in the middle of a divorce. I mean, what kind of crap is that? How could that even be an issue when it was her means to buy food for her children? Doesn't even make sense. It's not EXPENSIVE to renew a nursing license for crying out loud. Furthermore, are Billie & Clint officially divorced now or still just separated? I have a feeling Billie was leading people to believe she was somebody that she truly isn't...maybe embellishment has been going on? Also, Billie's friend can read the affidavits & warrants - how does she explain away those issues? It's known now that Billie was neglectful with her children, how does her friend continue to have Billie's back for crying out loud? I feel for this person, I really do...but I can't help but question the motive to continue to protect Billie. What? Why? Isn't Billie capable of handling it herself? If she can't protect herself and fight her own battles, then how can she protect or fight for her children. Puhleeease...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 11:39:59 AM
This is Peter's blog radio recording with his guest Dr Glass and her take on things.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/peter-hyatt/2011/02/06/the-peter-hyatt-show

Tks, this was on my list of things to do this morning.   A comment caught my eye here:

 Nanna Frances said...
I received this reply from my request for Clint to call you. Giving my daughter's dog away would really hurt if she were missing.

Carole-Tim Barrett It's possible Clint is having a bad day. I know he had to give away Hailey's dog today. Please just keep him in your prayers.
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=7866960503698126647

I know, I saw that. I was thinking the dog had to be given away bc now they don't have a home to live in. Maybe Naomi can't have it wherever she is, and Clint has stated he's staying with family. How is he surviving? Basically it appears as though he's homeless. I know it's no one's fault but his own, but still. I can't help but feel bad, even considering his past. Maybe his family believes it's enough to help take care of a grown man, so much so that they can't afford to take care of the dog, too. It would make sense.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: seahorse on February 07, 2011, 11:45:02 AM
I am really getting confused here on the name thing. Where does Stewart come from for BJD? Also I can find no birth record for BJ with her mothers name (Connie Ostrander). Nor for her sister Shanna. The only marriage license I can find for BJ is with Clint. Maybe she was just using this last name (Stewart) or that is the name she was born with and they did the same thing that BJ did to Clint to allow David to carry his last name?

It is my believe, opinion, idea or Perhaps the mom is Connie Lou Stewart?   


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 11:46:29 AM
I want to know if the police recorded (video or voice) their interviews with Billie & Shawn. I know the affidavit or warrant informs that Shawn said Hailey was promiscuous, but I specifically remember either Billie or Shawn stating that's not actually what was said...I remember Billie or Shawn saying that what Shawn actually said was that "Hailey was boy crazy". Could the police have used promiscuous in place of boy crazy?

...Just trying to be thorough...

...& I still wanna know more about Walston and Pharris...

Tiche

Consider Shawn and Billie's oppositional take on aspects of the affidavits ... I also hope that interrogations sessions were recorded.

Janet

++++++

Boy Crazy?

Person of interest in missing girl case prays for her return
Saturday, January 15, 2011


<snipped>

Adkins told the AP he loves Hailey and that his life has been "flipped upside down" since her disappearance.

"I struggle so hard just to make it through the day," he said. "I can't begin to imagine what Hailey's family, especially her parents and brother are going through."

Adkins said police have misquoted him in affidavits.

In one, police said Adkins at first was "very positive" about Hailey, but that as time went on he indicated she was promiscuous and used drugs. Adkins denied that Friday. He said he had told police Billie and Hailey Dunn had discussed birth control and that he had told investigators the teen was "boy crazy."

<snipped>

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/state&id=7899816


Investigative Purposes?

Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
By Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 2:17 pm CST January 12, 2011


<snipped>

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- KTXS News has obtained documents that show startling facts into the investigation of missing 13-year-old Hailey Dunn that point to Hailey's mother Billie Jean Dunn and her former live-in boyfriend Shawn Adkins as being primary suspects.

Through the Freedom of Information Act, KTXS has received copies of affidavits that were filed by law enforcement officials for the purpose of securing search warrants to search for and seize evidence related to Hailey’s disappearance.

The affidavits contain facts discovered by law enforcement officials and statements made by Billie Dunn, Adkins and others. In all, a total of six search warrants were issued by Mitchell County Judge Ray Mayo.

The information provided in the affidavits does not assign any guilt or innocence. They are used for investigative purposes only, but in being released to the public for the first time, they do provide explosive details about what law enforcement authorities have found.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html

Janet, Thanks so much! I knew I read that or heard it on Nancy's show!

I know I keep pressing this issue, and am fearing people will think I'm a ridiculous scratched record that keeps skipping at the same spot - I really want to know more about Walston and Pharris. For instance, Pharris was kicked out of Walston's house right after Hailey went missing. Well...why? Is it bc he was a bad questionable fella...or could he have brought attention to somebody else that didn;t want attention? What do we know about these two people? Somebody stated on a previous thread that Pharris was in a wheelchair. I still haven;t validated that info but would not discount it. I trust whomever said it. But again, that's all I know about these 2 cats...

Why would Walston kick out a person that stated they saw Hailey in the back yard talking on the cell around noon? Even if Pharris was wrong about the day or time, it's still no reason to kick the guy out. Then it was reported that the neighbor wasn't reliable bc they were a known drug user. Well, which one...or both? Why did Walston kick out Pharris?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 11:50:56 AM
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Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 11:51:03 AM
Good morning everyone.

I know the transcript has been posted of the interview between Peter and Clint, but has since been taken down on Peter's blog. The reason for this is due to the fact that Clint is receiving alot of grief over it, probably people are giving him a hard time due to the fact he released info that wasn't touched upon before. I tend to think he is waaay more believable than Billie and I'd bank on the fact the police are using that info against Billie. There isn't a doubt in my mind that they already know the info Clint supplied, maybe they just weren't ready for it to be revealed. Remember, Billie doesn't have a lawyer, so if she thinks she isn't a poi, then she'll keep on talking, and le can and will disect that info gleamed & use it against her. I could care less that her "friend" posts online sticking up for her, fighting her battles for her, etc. As a matter of fact, it makes me question what kind of person this friend is and how well connected she is to Billie Jean. Iow, are they just friends, coworkers, neighbors, drug connections, etc. Who really cares, again - bc imo if somebody has to fight her battle for her, then the neglectful mom with a missing daughter and a son that doesn't live with her is even more of an idiot than what she appears to be when she does her lame interviews.

Here's the cached link:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:l7vth1wogvsJ:seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html+EXCLUSIVE:+Billie+Jean+Dunn+Revealed&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com


Was wondering where you were Titch!

I wonder if Billie's "friend" will be speaking for her tonight when she goes on air to defend herself & Shawn again.

I'm so sorry...my boys had wrestling the whole weekend...matter of fact, every single day for the past 2 weeks. It's just too much if ya ask me. At least they're doing what they love & they're keeping busy, off the streets, outta trouble...etc.

I'm really thrown through a loop with this "friend". I mean, the friend may be an awesome person just doing what they believe is the right thing to do. Afterall, isn't that what DeDe did for Terri in Kyron's case? She came to her friend's defense bc she thought/thinks she's innocent of wrong doing. Maybe Billie's friend believes the same thing. Only problem that I have is the info that's come out seems to be disregarded by Billie's friend...as if it has no merit or something. I saw a comment on Topix last week of a so-called cousin of Billie's informing the reason Billie didn't get her license renewed is bc she didn't have the money as she was in the middle of a divorce. I mean, what kind of crap is that? How could that even be an issue when it was her means to buy food for her children? Doesn't even make sense. It's not EXPENSIVE to renew a nursing license for crying out loud. Furthermore, are Billie & Clint officially divorced now or still just separated? I have a feeling Billie was leading people to believe she was somebody that she truly isn't...maybe embellishment has been going on? Also, Billie's friend can read the affidavits & warrants - how does she explain away those issues? It's known now that Billie was neglectful with her children, how does her friend continue to have Billie's back for crying out loud? I feel for this person, I really do...but I can't help but question the motive to continue to protect Billie. What? Why? Isn't Billie capable of handling it herself? If she can't protect herself and fight her own battles, then how can she protect or fight for her children. Puhleeease...

Amen sista.    I read that they are not officially divorced but have not seen solid proof of their present marital status.   If I were Clint I'd have a different type of ring for Billie & it wouldnt be on her finger...just saying.   It is not all that expensive to renew a license, shoot she could have used her alleged drug sales or stripper money to pay for it....to me all that excuse indicates to me is a lame attempt to come off the victim again.   It doesnt ring true...why? because a responsible single mom's livelihood raising two children would be a priority & other things would have fell by the way side or put off instead.

The difference between Clint & Billie presently is that Clint is facing his shortcomings & previous bad acts, Billie is too busy lying about them or making excuses for them.   I cant express my angst toward Billie any stronger than I already have but I woke up this morning with a renewed optimism that her day of forced reckoning will arrive.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: seahorse on February 07, 2011, 11:57:37 AM
I am really getting confused here on the name thing. Where does Stewart come from for BJD? Also I can find no birth record for BJ with her mothers name (Connie Ostrander). Nor for her sister Shanna. The only marriage license I can find for BJ is with Clint. Maybe she was just using this last name (Stewart) or that is the name she was born with and they did the same thing that BJ did to Clint to allow David to carry his last name?

It is my believe, opinion, idea or Perhaps the mom is Connie Lou Stewart?   


Please be aware and very careful there are quite a few Delbert O's and a few Roger O's. ::MonkeyConfused::

We do not know if this is mom or not, please, remember this is only a guess or opinion,until proven as a fact. Thank-you.
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=34&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_f-34&gsfn=roger+&gsln=ostrander&msbpn__ftp=Texas%2C+USA&msbpn=46&msbpn_PInfo=5-%7C1652393%7C2%7C3249%7C46%7C&msmng0=connie+lou&msmns0=stewart&uidh=000

Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997


Birth, Baptism & Christening

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Name: Roger Dean Ostrander
Birth County: Gonzales
 
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Name:  Roger Dean Ostrander
Mother:  Connie Lou Stewart
Father:  Delbert Dean Ostrander
Birth:  date - Gonzales
 
 Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997


Birth, Baptism & Christening

Name:  Del Bertdelano Ostrander
Mother:  Connie Lou Stewart
Father:  Delbert Dean Ostrander
Birth:  date - Gonzales
 
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=34&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_f-34&gsfn=roger+&gsln=ostrander&msbpn__ftp=Texas%2C+USA&msbpn=46&msbpn_PInfo=5-%7C1652393%7C2%7C3249%7C46%7C&msmng0=connie+lou&msmns0=stewart&uidh=000



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 11:58:03 AM
Good morning everyone.

I know the transcript has been posted of the interview between Peter and Clint, but has since been taken down on Peter's blog. The reason for this is due to the fact that Clint is receiving alot of grief over it, probably people are giving him a hard time due to the fact he released info that wasn't touched upon before. I tend to think he is waaay more believable than Billie and I'd bank on the fact the police are using that info against Billie. There isn't a doubt in my mind that they already know the info Clint supplied, maybe they just weren't ready for it to be revealed. Remember, Billie doesn't have a lawyer, so if she thinks she isn't a poi, then she'll keep on talking, and le can and will disect that info gleamed & use it against her. I could care less that her "friend" posts online sticking up for her, fighting her battles for her, etc. As a matter of fact, it makes me question what kind of person this friend is and how well connected she is to Billie Jean. Iow, are they just friends, coworkers, neighbors, drug connections, etc. Who really cares, again - bc imo if somebody has to fight her battle for her, then the neglectful mom with a missing daughter and a son that doesn't live with her is even more of an idiot than what she appears to be when she does her lame interviews.

Here's the cached link:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:l7vth1wogvsJ:seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html+EXCLUSIVE:+Billie+Jean+Dunn+Revealed&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com


Was wondering where you were Titch!

I wonder if Billie's "friend" will be speaking for her tonight when she goes on air to defend herself & Shawn again.

I'm so sorry...my boys had wrestling the whole weekend...matter of fact, every single day for the past 2 weeks. It's just too much if ya ask me. At least they're doing what they love & they're keeping busy, off the streets, outta trouble...etc.

I'm really thrown through a loop with this "friend". I mean, the friend may be an awesome person just doing what they believe is the right thing to do. Afterall, isn't that what DeDe did for Terri in Kyron's case? She came to her friend's defense bc she thought/thinks she's innocent of wrong doing. Maybe Billie's friend believes the same thing. Only problem that I have is the info that's come out seems to be disregarded by Billie's friend...as if it has no merit or something. I saw a comment on Topix last week of a so-called cousin of Billie's informing the reason Billie didn't get her license renewed is bc she didn't have the money as she was in the middle of a divorce. I mean, what kind of crap is that? How could that even be an issue when it was her means to buy food for her children? Doesn't even make sense. It's not EXPENSIVE to renew a nursing license for crying out loud. Furthermore, are Billie & Clint officially divorced now or still just separated? I have a feeling Billie was leading people to believe she was somebody that she truly isn't...maybe embellishment has been going on? Also, Billie's friend can read the affidavits & warrants - how does she explain away those issues? It's known now that Billie was neglectful with her children, how does her friend continue to have Billie's back for crying out loud? I feel for this person, I really do...but I can't help but question the motive to continue to protect Billie. What? Why? Isn't Billie capable of handling it herself? If she can't protect herself and fight her own battles, then how can she protect or fight for her children. Puhleeease...

Amen sista.    I read that they are not officially divorced but have not seen solid proof of their present marital status.   If I were Clint I'd have a different type of ring for Billie & it wouldnt be on her finger...just saying.   It is not all that expensive to renew a license, shoot she could have used her alleged drug sales or stripper money to pay for it....to me all that excuse indicates to me is a lame attempt to come off the victim again.   It doesnt ring true...why? because a responsible single mom's livelihood raising two children would be a priority & other things would have fell by the way side or put off instead.

The difference between Clint & Billie presently is that Clint is facing his shortcomings & previous bad acts, Billie is too busy lying about them or making excuses for them.   I cant express my angst toward Billie any stronger than I already have but I woke up this morning with a renewed optimism that her day of forced reckoning will arrive.

I agree. Also, it's my opinion that even if by chance Billie and/or Shawn isn't involved in Hailey's disappearance, that Billie will pay a penalty of bad parenting including neglect. The law is written out. This is a missing chile case. Billie showed neglect and bad decion making on numerous occasions, including misleading statements and a questionable poly. I believe that some day she will pay a penalty for her mistakes.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 12:08:56 PM
Amen Titch and Cookie!  I will own up to the fact that I smoked pot all the time until I tried and suceeded in getting pregnant.  Even stopped smoking cigarettes during my first few wks of pregnancy and didn't know why!  It mad me sick to inhale cigarettes or even be around them.  Shoulda been first clue!  Anyhoo, I did try to smoke pot about a year after my baby was born but since I had Toxemia so bad the high BP continued and pot agitates my BP so I never tried again but I have nothing against it for anyone else.  It's not for everyone but I do think it should be legalized but hey, who am I to say so!  Even if BD didn't do anything to HD I don't like her and never will.  My back is turned on her fo'eva!

I don't smoke pot but I don't have a problem with people who do...

Cookie ... I respectfully disagree.

Smoking "pot" is illegal ... bottom line.The possession of this illegal substance has afforded Clint a growing criminal record ... a growing criminal record that would have gone a long way towards preventing Clint from gaining custody of Hailey as well as securing meaningful employment to provide for his family.

Maybe ... just maybe ... if Clint had made different lifestyle choices he would have been in a position to gain custody of Hailey.  His litte girl wanted to live with him and ... she  was of an age where the courts would have taken her desire into consideration.

I do not doubt that Billie and Clint each loved Hailey but ... they loved their respective lifestyle choices more.

Janet

+++++

Hailey Dunn: Unfolding a story of a missing teenager and her family
By Brian Bethel
Abilene Reporter-News
Posted January 8, 2011 at 11 p.m.


<snipped>

A search of website publicdata.com reveals no criminal histories for Billie Jean Dunn or for Shawn Adkins. Clint Dunn, however, has multiple arrests, starting in 1994 for burglary of a building, a state jail felony. Following that are subsequent arrests in 1998 for possession of marijuana, under 2 ounces, one in March 1999 for driving with a suspended license.

He was arrested again Jan. 30, 2010, by Snyder police for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces. And he was arrested at his home Dec. 29, again for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces, and a Scurry County warrant.

<snipped>

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/08/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 12:32:43 PM
Amen Titch and Cookie!  I will own up to the fact that I smoked pot all the time until I tried and suceeded in getting pregnant.  Even stopped smoking cigarettes during my first few wks of pregnancy and didn't know why!  It mad me sick to inhale cigarettes or even be around them.  Shoulda been first clue!  Anyhoo, I did try to smoke pot about a year after my baby was born but since I had Toxemia so bad the high BP continued and pot agitates my BP so I never tried again but I have nothing against it for anyone else.  It's not for everyone but I do think it should be legalized but hey, who am I to say so!  Even if BD didn't do anything to HD I don't like her and never will.  My back is turned on her fo'eva!

I don't smoke pot but I don't have a problem with people who do...

Cookie ... I respectfully disagree.

Smoking "pot" is illegal ... bottom line.The possession of this illegal substance has afforded Clint a growing criminal record ... a growing criminal record that would have gone a long way towards preventing Clint from gaining custody of Hailey as well as securing meaningful employment to provide for his family.

Maybe ... just maybe ... if Clint had made different lifestyle choices he would have been in a position to gain custody of Hailey.  His litte girl wanted to live with him and ... she  was of an age where the courts would have taken her desire into consideration.

I do not doubt that Billie and Clint each loved Hailey but ... they loved their respective lifestyle choices more.

Janet

+++++

Hailey Dunn: Unfolding a story of a missing teenager and her family
By Brian Bethel
Abilene Reporter-News
Posted January 8, 2011 at 11 p.m.


<snipped>

A search of website publicdata.com reveals no criminal histories for Billie Jean Dunn or for Shawn Adkins. Clint Dunn, however, has multiple arrests, starting in 1994 for burglary of a building, a state jail felony. Following that are subsequent arrests in 1998 for possession of marijuana, under 2 ounces, one in March 1999 for driving with a suspended license.

He was arrested again Jan. 30, 2010, by Snyder police for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces. And he was arrested at his home Dec. 29, again for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces, and a Scurry County warrant.

<snipped>

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/08/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/



I agree with you, Janet, pot is illegal. I also agree with you that Clint's & Billie's life style choices should have been different. I'm not an advocate for legalizing marijuana, especially considering where it's grown has something to do with the level of toxicity, however I don't understand why it's not legal when considering that cigarettes and alcohol are legal. Cannabis is natural, and I believe "to each their own" and I do think it tends to mellow people out. I respect your opinion, though, and I know that your opinion is backed by legalese.

When thinking of marijuana and people that smoke it do so by breaking the law, I am reminded of people that drink a cocktail then drive around the block to go back to their house...I'm reminded of people that come to a stop sign but don't completely stop all the way and roll through it bc it's dark & no cars are coming...I'm reminded of people that see an amber light so they speed up to beat the red light... In other words, these are things that people shouldn't do but they still do it on a daily basis. I don't know a single person that hasn't come to a complete stop at least once in their lifetime. Let it be known that what a cop looks for when issuing tickets to somebody that doesn't come to a complete stop is this: When stopping, you must compress the break so much so that the car you are driving actually can be seen to do a slight shift back while staying still - that is a complete stop. In other words, people break the law everyday. Seriously. I know weed is against the law but alcohol used to be against the law, too. Sometimes I wish it still was considering the fact that my father is an alcoholic.  I myself have no problem with social drinking, nor do I have a problem with somebody that smokes cannabis in the privacy of their own home. I would have a problem with somebody doing anything when they have children in their near care, or their presence. I wanted to say this - that I definitely agree and respect your opinion, I just disagree to a point where the marijuana is concerned.

Still, though, this is about Hailey. She is missing. If Clint, Billie, or Shawn's lifestyle choices had anything to do with Hailey's disappearance, then they should pay the price.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Puzzler on February 07, 2011, 12:39:18 PM
Hello everybody on at the moment.

There are 18 guests viewing. Please join and lend your opinion.

My opinion: DISGUSTING

Guess I'm not in the best mood today. 

Anyway, the dog - maybe someone in the home has "allergies".  I know that as much as I love dogs, I can no longer have one because of allergies.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 12:42:00 PM
Considering Billie's own words in her press conference ... she already knew four days prior to the January 3rd NG interview that Shawn did not go to work on the day of December 27th.

I concede that NOTHING that come out of this woman's mouth can be believed.  It is all about distancing the main suspect in her daughter's disappearance from implication.

Janet

+++++

December 29th

Billie Jean Dunn Press Conference, January 31, 2011, Transcribed

<snipped>

Monday morning, Shawn quit his job. He didn’t tell me about this until Wednesday the 29th. I know that Shawn had been thinking about quitting, but he knew I’d be mad if he did.

He told me that he went into work Monday, turning in his coveralls, and to clean out his locker.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/01/31/hailey-dunn-billie-jean-dunn-press-conference-january-31-transcription-1/

 
January 3rd

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 3, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


<snipped>

DUNN:   She went missing on Monday while I was at work. My boyfriend - - he came home from work about 3:00 -- or he got to my house about 3:00. And he`s seen Hailey. Hailey was there. She told him, I`m running across the street to my dad`s house for a few minutes but I`m going Mary Beth`s, and I`m staying the night there. Let my mom know

<snipped>
 
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/03/ng.01.html


January 4th

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 4, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


<snipped>

GRACE: OK. Last night, didn`t you tell me he was on his way home from work, or did I just get that mistaken?

BILLIE DUNN: No, I said that. He went in Monday morning, but there was an argument. He was fired or there was just a big blow-up there. He walked out. He left his job by 6:30 in the morning and went to Big Spring (ph) to his mom`s house.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/04/ng.01.html


 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Sister on February 07, 2011, 12:44:06 PM
I have never met a person, who truly reflecting on their life, would not change some things, actions, choices, etc that they have made.  Unfortunately, life does not give us do overs.  Life does afford the opportunity to change for the better.  I see Clint moving in that direction.
I do not see Billie as a loving mother when she puts the reputation of her boyfriend ahead of the need to get off her duff and look for her daughter.
JMHO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 12:44:50 PM
Hello everybody on at the moment.

There are 18 guests viewing. Please join and lend your opinion.

My opinion: DISGUSTING

Guess I'm not in the best mood today. 

Anyway, the dog - maybe someone in the home has "allergies".  I know that as much as I love dogs, I can no longer have one because of allergies.

Cheer up, Puzzler. None of us are in good moods while reading over these threads, especially when it's always the same story - just a different face. Seems as though there'll never be an end to child victims. Such a sad world we're living in right now. People do and do and do but don't even make a dent. It's so sad.

I love reading your posts, they always make me think...sometimes disgruntled, but my curiosity is always peaked! Lol! Seriously.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 12:47:08 PM
I have never met a person, who truly reflecting on their life, would not change some things, actions, choices, etc that they have made.  Unfortunately, life does not give us do overs.  Life does afford the opportunity to change for the better.  I see Clint moving in that direction.
I do not see Billie as a loving mother when she puts the reputation of her boyfriend ahead of the need to get off her duff and look for her daughter.
JMHO

I agree. Billie just doesn't seem believable in my eyes.

BTW, does anyone know if Shawn's back at the house for sure, or was it just a visit, or was it erroneous info?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Sister on February 07, 2011, 12:57:24 PM
I have never met a person, who truly reflecting on their life, would not change some things, actions, choices, etc that they have made.  Unfortunately, life does not give us do overs.  Life does afford the opportunity to change for the better.  I see Clint moving in that direction.
I do not see Billie as a loving mother when she puts the reputation of her boyfriend ahead of the need to get off her duff and look for her daughter.
JMHO

I agree. Billie just doesn't seem believable in my eyes.

BTW, does anyone know if Shawn's back at the house for sure, or was it just a visit, or was it erroneous info?
Titch, I agree . . . she is not believable.  Some smart monkey said some time ago, she or someone who does her writing must read blogs in order to know what questions to find some kind of answer.  Pathetic!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: my2cents on February 07, 2011, 01:04:27 PM
CPS must have had a good reason for removing David from the home especially at his older age ...a lot of times if the child is old enough to get to help if need be then they will just give them a card/contact number and visit with them on a regular basis so having said that they also they usually tell the parent/parents that when they meet certain requirements then they may have their children back. My question is what if anything is Billie doing to try to regain custody of her son? If he were removed for drugs then I would think that she would be attending some drug classes and if it were for the conditon of the house then she would be trying to make the repairs needed? Why was David removed from the home ?And might I add that I DO NOT believe her reason for him staying with other family members...seems that everything that she says serves to her benefit or Shawns...I would like to hear something come out of her mouth that she can prove ! FTLOG just take another POLY !!!!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Sister on February 07, 2011, 01:09:04 PM
CPS must have had a good reason for removing David from the home especially at his older age ...a lot of times if the child is old enough to get to help if need be then they will just give them a card/contact number and visit with them on a regular basis so having said that they also they usually tell the parent/parents that when they meet certain requirements then they may have their children back. My question is what if anything is Billie doing to try to regain custody of her son? If he were removed for drugs then I would think that she would be attending some drug classes and if it were for the conditon of the house then she would be trying to make the repairs needed? Why was David removed from the home ?And might I add that I DO NOT believe her reason for him staying with other family members...seems that everything that she says serves to her benefit or Shawns...I would like to hear something come out of her mouth that she can prove ! FTLOG just take another POLY !!!!
BBM


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: EintheB on February 07, 2011, 01:09:30 PM
ummmmmm why is all my hard work from my website, Case Signal, being copied over to this website, full pages coped wholesale, without so much as consulting with me?



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: my2cents on February 07, 2011, 01:11:50 PM
I think that since neither of Clint's children( paternal or step) are now living in the house and he is in need of a place to stay that he should just boot Shawn and Billie out of there and move in there himself...he has more right there than Shawn does.IMO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: my2cents on February 07, 2011, 01:23:07 PM
ummmmmm why is all my hard work from my website, Case Signal, being copied over to this website, full pages coped wholesale, without so much as consulting with me?


Welcome to the cage EintheB !.... I have been off of here for a few days ..did I miss something? What is being copied ? Is your website Case Signal about the Hailey Dunn case?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: EintheB on February 07, 2011, 01:35:11 PM
ummmmmm why is all my hard work from my website, Case Signal, being copied over to this website, full pages coped wholesale, without so much as consulting with me?


Welcome to the cage EintheB !.... I have been off of here for a few days ..did I miss something? What is being copied ? Is your website Case Signal about the Hailey Dunn case?

Thank you for the welcome. I've been a member for some time.

Are you an owner of this website?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: my2cents on February 07, 2011, 01:39:04 PM
ummmmmm why is all my hard work from my website, Case Signal, being copied over to this website, full pages coped wholesale, without so much as consulting with me?


Welcome to the cage EintheB !.... I have been off of here for a few days ..did I miss something? What is being copied ? Is your website Case Signal about the Hailey Dunn case?

Thank you for the welcome. I've been a member for some time.

Are you an owner of this website?

Oh, good heavens no...I just post here when I get the chance...thought that maybe I had missed something while I was off ...Klass and Muffy bee are a couple of the moderators on here I am not sure who the owner is ....


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 01:39:55 PM
ummmmmm why is all my hard work from my website, Case Signal, being copied over to this website, full pages coped wholesale, without so much as consulting with me?



EintheB

It was me who copied your transcripts of Billie and Clint's respective interview on a separate thread in the Hailey forum.  However ... I did link your site.

Nevertheless ... I apologize if I did something unethical.  If that is the case ... Klaas could delete the thread.

I do want to commend you on your site.  It must have been an overwhelming undertaking.

Janet

++++++

Billie - Clint - Press Conferences/Interviews - Transcripts
 
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9407.0
 

 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: EintheB on February 07, 2011, 01:45:58 PM
ummmmmm why is all my hard work from my website, Case Signal, being copied over to this website, full pages coped wholesale, without so much as consulting with me?



EintheB

It was me who copied your transcripts of Billie and Clint's respective interview on a separate thread in the Hailey forum.  However ... I did link your site.

Nevertheless ... I apologize if I did something unethical.  If that is the case ... Klaas could delete the thread.

I do want to commend you on your site.  It must have been an overwhelming undertaking.

Janet

++++++

Billie - Clint - Press Conferences/Interviews - Transcripts
 
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9407.0
 

 

Yes, I know it was you who copied my hard work, without so much as consulting me. At the least, what you did was despicably rude. It's unfathomable to me how anyone, knowing the hours and hours of work transcribing and so forth takes, would just wholesale copy and paste it willy nilly to another website, without a single word to the person who did all the work. Doing so shows a startling lack of awareness or concern about the feelings of others. You should be ashamed of yourself, but I've no doubts you're not.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 02:02:15 PM
ummmmmm why is all my hard work from my website, Case Signal, being copied over to this website, full pages coped wholesale, without so much as consulting with me?



Hey EintheB - not sure what you're referring to as I know it wasn't me...but I do wanna say I think you're doing a great job putting all the info on your new site. In case you don't have this, as I didn't see it on your site, here's the cached link to Peter's blog story/interview with Clint:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:l7vth1wogvsJ:seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html+EXCLUSIVE:+Billie+Jean+Dunn+Revealed&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

I noticed that in several of your links, they lead the reader to the direct article...only problem forseen is if the article is removed, then there's no way to find it without cache or the caches excerpt/title. If you use the google cache link instead of the direct real time link, it can lead the reader to the original article.

PS - I've always enjoyed reading your posts on Websleuths...sometimes we've disagreed but have always been cordial & respectful of each other's opinions. I tend to gravitate to this site more now, as scaredmonkeys.com just makes a person feel like their opinion matters, even if other's disagree...it's a different level of comfort while still being professionally moderated. I'd love to see what you can do with the Kyron Horman case being put into your Case Signal site. Have you thought of maybe adding a link or google search to the forensic astrology threads regarding Hailey Dunn (or other missing people) to your site. I know people tend to be skeptical, as was I, but those astro threads are amazingly accurate when read from the beginning...uncannily accurate. I myself am ignorant and have no knowledge how they do what they do, but it sure is interesting to say the least. They are all very good, as well as professional, but Tuba & Soulscape are amazing...very very very interesting.

 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=318


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 02:05:54 PM
I have never met a person, who truly reflecting on their life, would not change some things, actions, choices, etc that they have made.  Unfortunately, life does not give us do overs.  Life does afford the opportunity to change for the better.  I see Clint moving in that direction.
I do not see Billie as a loving mother when she puts the reputation of her boyfriend ahead of the need to get off her duff and look for her daughter.
JMHO

I agree. Billie just doesn't seem believable in my eyes.

BTW, does anyone know if Shawn's back at the house for sure, or was it just a visit, or was it erroneous info?

And Ill second that emotion too ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 02:07:42 PM
ummmmmm why is all my hard work from my website, Case Signal, being copied over to this website, full pages coped wholesale, without so much as consulting with me?


Welcome to the cage EintheB !.... I have been off of here for a few days ..did I miss something? What is being copied ? Is your website Case Signal about the Hailey Dunn case?

Thank you for the welcome. I've been a member for some time.

Are you an owner of this website?


Klaas,Red or a moderator will address this


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 02:09:56 PM
OMG EintheB, you seriously don't have to be so mean to Janet. That's nuts. Her heart is in the right place. Alot of times, when setting up a site, you even have to get permission to link to other sites directly, for each & every link, and the permission has to be in writing if it's copywritten. I mean no disrespect, as I sincerely believe your whole Case Signal site shows sooo much work, but even transcripts of interviews that are painstakingly typed out before transcripts are provided cannot be copywritten by the person doing the transcribing, unless that person is the same person doing or owning the interview. Ultimately, it looks like you set up your site to help find missing children. So far, you're covering Gabriel and Hailey. I think it's beautiful when people work together to help spread awareness, especially when dealing with blogs. A blog is not a major news network. It's a blog.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Magic Eyes on February 07, 2011, 02:13:55 PM
ummmmmm why is all my hard work from my website, Case Signal, being copied over to this website, full pages coped wholesale, without so much as consulting with me?



EintheB

It was me who copied your transcripts of Billie and Clint's respective interview on a separate thread in the Hailey forum.  However ... I did link your site.

Nevertheless ... I apologize if I did something unethical.  If that is the case ... Klaas could delete the thread.

I do want to commend you on your site.  It must have been an overwhelming undertaking.

Janet

++++++

Billie - Clint - Press Conferences/Interviews - Transcripts
 
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9407.0
 

 

Yes, I know it was you who copied my hard work, without so much as consulting me. At the least, what you did was despicably rude. It's unfathomable to me how anyone, knowing the hours and hours of work transcribing and so forth takes, would just wholesale copy and paste it willy nilly to another website, without a single word to the person who did all the work. Doing so shows a startling lack of awareness or concern about the feelings of others. You should be ashamed of yourself, but I've no doubts you're not.


Dear Janet, what you did, you did with the best of intentions.  Klaas or another mod could of changed it.  I truly feel you have nothing to be ashamed of.  Your heart is always in the right place and I thank you for all the information and posts you contribute.  I am holding your hand from the top branch, where I am always sitting and reading.

Hugs, Magic :smt060


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 02:19:55 PM
ummmmmm why is all my hard work from my website, Case Signal, being copied over to this website, full pages coped wholesale, without so much as consulting with me?



EintheB

It was me who copied your transcripts of Billie and Clint's respective interview on a separate thread in the Hailey forum.  However ... I did link your site.

Nevertheless ... I apologize if I did something unethical.  If that is the case ... Klaas could delete the thread.

I do want to commend you on your site.  It must have been an overwhelming undertaking.

Janet

++++++

Billie - Clint - Press Conferences/Interviews - Transcripts
 
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9407.0
 

 

Yes, I know it was you who copied my hard work, without so much as consulting me. At the least, what you did was despicably rude. It's unfathomable to me how anyone, knowing the hours and hours of work transcribing and so forth takes, would just wholesale copy and paste it willy nilly to another website, without a single word to the person who did all the work. Doing so shows a startling lack of awareness or concern about the feelings of others. You should be ashamed of yourself, but I've no doubts you're not.


Dear Janet, what you did, you did with the best of intentions.  Klaas or another mod could of changed it.  I truly feel you have nothing to be ashamed of.  Your heart is always in the right place and I thank you for all the information and posts you contribute.  I am holding your hand from the top branch, where I am always sitting and reading.

Hugs, Magic :smt060

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 02:20:28 PM
(http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/temp-2011-01-02/mvzIzHkasjymEhfrlvfHnrgFpjGvfJwGACIewjauczBqFDAubbHrFjGBbbjz/Hailey_Dunn_13_MISSING_12-27-10_Colorado_City_TEXAS.jpg.scaled1000.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 02:24:40 PM
Janet, we adore you sweetie and many of us applaud you for your steadfast love of helping the victim. Just one google search of your hat linked with Natalee Holloway goes to show how much you care about victims of injustice. My God, Natalee is just one example, there are multiple victims you've helped to bring awareness to. You handled your apology with dignity and I'm not exactly sure you're wrong to be honest. Please hold your head high. I think it could be a simple disagreement.

Hugs to you honeybunches!

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ((((( ~JANET~ )))))  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: no rose colored glasses on February 07, 2011, 02:25:44 PM
Janet, we adore you sweetie and many of us applaud you for your steadfast love of helping the victim. Just one google search of your hat linked with Natalee Holloway goes to show how much you care about victims of injustice. My God, Natalee is just one example, there are multiple victims you've helped to bring awareness to. You handled your apology with dignity and I'm not exactly sure you're wrong to be honest. Please hold your head high. I think it could be a simple disagreement.

Hugs to you honeybunches!

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ((((( ~JANET~ )))))  ::MonkeyAngel::
I agree  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 07, 2011, 02:33:02 PM
ummmmmm why is all my hard work from my website, Case Signal, being copied over to this website, full pages coped wholesale, without so much as consulting with me?


Welcome to the cage EintheB !.... I have been off of here for a few days ..did I miss something? What is being copied ? Is your website Case Signal about the Hailey Dunn case?

Thank you for the welcome. I've been a member for some time.

Are you an owner of this website?


EintheB - you are being extremely rude.  I have deleted the posts in the thread you are complaining about. I left you a message there.  I am now banning you as your kind is not welcome here. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 02:40:17 PM
Hi Klaas! I see you up in the rafters... :)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 07, 2011, 02:45:15 PM
Is there a full moon?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cadillac on February 07, 2011, 02:47:49 PM
Is there a full moon?

Too funny!!!  Love your humor.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 02:52:05 PM
I am really getting confused here on the name thing. Where does Stewart come from for BJD? Also I can find no birth record for BJ with her mothers name (Connie Ostrander). Nor for her sister Shanna. The only marriage license I can find for BJ is with Clint. Maybe she was just using this last name (Stewart) or that is the name she was born with and they did the same thing that BJ did to Clint to allow David to carry his last name?

It is my believe, opinion, idea or Perhaps the mom is Connie Lou Stewart?   

I'd love to find out since I read she herself has a record, and specualtion is that she might be the source of the drugs, just speculation ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cookie on February 07, 2011, 02:58:49 PM
snip from Janet..:
(Cookie ... I respectfully disagree.

Smoking "pot" is illegal ... bottom line.The possession of this illegal substance has afforded Clint a growing criminal record ... a growing criminal record that would have gone a long way towards preventing Clint from gaining custody of Hailey as well as securing meaningful employment to provide for his family.

Maybe ... just maybe ... if Clint had made different lifestyle choices he would have been in a position to gain custody of Hailey.  His litte girl wanted to live with him and ... she  was of an age where the courts would have taken her desire into consideration.

I do not doubt that Billie and Clint each loved Hailey but ... they loved their respective lifestyle choices more.)

I agree with you... ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 02:58:51 PM
Is there a full moon?

Bart can depict that question humorously (http://www.mywebpower.com/graphics/thumbs/funny_animations/funny_moon_bart_simpson.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cookie on February 07, 2011, 03:04:14 PM
Janet, we adore you sweetie and many of us applaud you for your steadfast love of helping the victim. Just one google search of your hat linked with Natalee Holloway goes to show how much you care about victims of injustice. My God, Natalee is just one example, there are multiple victims you've helped to bring awareness to. You handled your apology with dignity and I'm not exactly sure you're wrong to be honest. Please hold your head high. I think it could be a simple disagreement.

Hugs to you honeybunches!

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ((((( ~JANET~ )))))  ::MonkeyAngel::
I agree  ::MonkeyAngel::

and I third, forth or 5th that!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cookie on February 07, 2011, 03:04:57 PM
Is there a full moon?

Too funny!!!  Love your humor.

me too!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cookie on February 07, 2011, 03:07:02 PM
OMG EintheB, you seriously don't have to be so mean to Janet. That's nuts. Her heart is in the right place. Alot of times, when setting up a site, you even have to get permission to link to other sites directly, for each & every link, and the permission has to be in writing if it's copywritten. I mean no disrespect, as I sincerely believe your whole Case Signal site shows sooo much work, but even transcripts of interviews that are painstakingly typed out before transcripts are provided cannot be copywritten by the person doing the transcribing, unless that person is the same person doing or owning the interview. Ultimately, it looks like you set up your site to help find missing children. So far, you're covering Gabriel and Hailey. I think it's beautiful when people work together to help spread awareness, especially when dealing with blogs. A blog is not a major news network. It's a blog.

well said!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Samarie on February 07, 2011, 03:08:02 PM
I am really getting confused here on the name thing. Where does Stewart come from for BJD? Also I can find no birth record for BJ with her mothers name (Connie Ostrander). Nor for her sister Shanna. The only marriage license I can find for BJ is with Clint. Maybe she was just using this last name (Stewart) or that is the name she was born with and they did the same thing that BJ did to Clint to allow David to carry his last name?

It is my believe, opinion, idea or Perhaps the mom is Connie Lou Stewart?   

A few days ago someone (sorry, can't remember which monkey) searched a site and found Billie's last name listed as "Stewart," maybe she was born before her mother married Ostlander? Of course my first instinct when I saw the Stewart name attached to Billie, was maybe she is some how related to Clint's current squeeze Naomi? Perhaps a cousin? Billie and Naomi could pass for blood relatives, as they do resemble one another. If this is the case I'm sure it causes some underlying animosity between Billie and Clint and Billie and Naomi....just a thought...Let's see, my mother's sister's daughter is now my daughter's mother and....oh, nevermind!

I'd love to find out since I read she herself has a record, and specualtion is that she might be the source of the drugs, just speculation ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Samarie on February 07, 2011, 03:09:34 PM
My member name should have been...

INTHEQOUTEBOX ::MonkeyHaHa::

Sorry...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 07, 2011, 03:10:59 PM
My member name should have been...

INTHEQOUTEBOX ::MonkeyHaHa::

Sorry...

Or "inthequotebox" even  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 03:12:53 PM
My curious mind wants to know from Shawn's boss IF Shawn actually handed over his work gear to him specifically.   The answer to that question might just lead somewhere.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Samarie on February 07, 2011, 03:13:10 PM
My member name should have been...

INTHEQOUTEBOX ::MonkeyHaHa::

Sorry...

Or "inthequotebox" even  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Or "Spellcheck"  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Bud's Girl on February 07, 2011, 03:14:38 PM
ummmmmm why is all my hard work from my website, Case Signal, being copied over to this website, full pages coped wholesale, without so much as consulting with me?


EintheB

It was me who copied your transcripts of Billie and Clint's respective interview on a separate thread in the Hailey forum.  However ... I did link your site.

Nevertheless ... I apologize if I did something unethical.  If that is the case ... Klaas could delete the thread.

I do want to commend you on your site.  It must have been an overwhelming undertaking.

Janet

++++++

Billie - Clint - Press Conferences/Interviews - Transcripts
 
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9407.0
 

Yes, I know it was you who copied my hard work, without so much as consulting me. At the least, what you did was despicably rude. It's unfathomable to me how anyone, knowing the hours and hours of work transcribing and so forth takes, would just wholesale copy and paste it willy nilly to another website, without a single word to the person who did all the work. Doing so shows a startling lack of awareness or concern about the feelings of others. You should be ashamed of yourself, but I've no doubts you're not.


Pfffttttt   


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Bud's Girl on February 07, 2011, 03:18:55 PM
Janet, we adore you sweetie and many of us applaud you for your steadfast love of helping the victim. Just one google search of your hat linked with Natalee Holloway goes to show how much you care about victims of injustice. My God, Natalee is just one example, there are multiple victims you've helped to bring awareness to. You handled your apology with dignity and I'm not exactly sure you're wrong to be honest. Please hold your head high. I think it could be a simple disagreement.

Hugs to you honeybunches!

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ((((( ~JANET~ )))))  ::MonkeyAngel::
I agree  ::MonkeyAngel::

Me too.    ::MonkeyAngel:: 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 03:20:56 PM
Is there a full moon?

 ::MonkeyTongue:: I don't think so, I think someone just needs a to get their panties out of a wad ASAP. I enjoy the site, but it's not anything I couldn't find myself someone else and I agree about the transcribing, and I so appreciate the effort but it's nothing that is protected under any type of infringement laws...........also if she's been a member here anytime, how in the he77 would she not know who the "owner" is ::MonkeyNoNo:: What a rude "despicable" way to come here, frankly I never heard of her on SM site evah.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 03:23:14 PM
Is there a full moon?

Moon, you said moon...heh heh...heh heh...

(http://orkutscrap.org/scraps/cartoon/beavis_and_butthead_mooning.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 03:24:06 PM
Is there a full moon?

Bart can depict that question humorously (http://www.mywebpower.com/graphics/thumbs/funny_animations/funny_moon_bart_simpson.gif)

Omg we think alike! I shoulda finished reading the page! Lol!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 03:25:03 PM
My curious mind wants to know from Shawn's boss IF Shawn actually handed over his work gear to him specifically.   The answer to that question might just lead somewhere.

I wanna know, too. I'm tellin' ya, I truly think le has info they're keeping tight to their vests...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 03:30:02 PM
Wondering if Brandy or Muffy...or somebody else that's great with Photoshop...could possibly work their magic on a new pic of Hailey...

Pretty please with a cherry on top.....?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 07, 2011, 03:33:33 PM
Janet, we adore you sweetie and many of us applaud you for your steadfast love of helping the victim. Just one google search of your hat linked with Natalee Holloway goes to show how much you care about victims of injustice. My God, Natalee is just one example, there are multiple victims you've helped to bring awareness to. You handled your apology with dignity and I'm not exactly sure you're wrong to be honest. Please hold your head high. I think it could be a simple disagreement.

Hugs to you honeybunches!

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ((((( ~JANET~ )))))  ::MonkeyAngel::
I agree  ::MonkeyAngel::

Me too.    ::MonkeyAngel:: 

Janet - Don't let her get to you.  I usually thank those who have quoted/copied and pasted from my site.  You didn't try to represent it as your work and gave her blog full credit.  That can only help her number of hits.  Again, don't take it personally; she is the one who is rude.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cadillac on February 07, 2011, 03:33:53 PM
My curious mind wants to know from Shawn's boss IF Shawn actually handed over his work gear to him specifically.   The answer to that question might just lead somewhere.

I wanna know, too. I'm tellin' ya, I truly think le has info they're keeping tight to their vests...
I really hope so.  (That LE is "watching and listening" to several people)  and keeping mum about some discoveries.
I read somewhere, yikes, can't remember where, sorry, about the idea of acid being used after the fact.  Since it was revealed that acid was used in her tat parlor.  Who would think of such crimes?  Someone who watches and prints crime stories on their computer?  Egads...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 03:38:39 PM
Thank you all.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 03:41:02 PM
Does anybody have the link to the youtube video of Billie's presss conference that was posted a while back.

Thanks

Janet



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 03:43:16 PM
Janet, nice of you but seriously - no thanks are needed...we're all just stating the facts as we see them. You're a great conscientious person/commenter. Thanks for all of your contributions. Please don't let any of that hinder your thought process...erase it from your mind.

Ok, sorry Klaas for all the o/t.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cadillac on February 07, 2011, 03:43:56 PM
Does anybody have the link to the youtube video of Billie's presss conference that was posted a while back.

Thanks

Janet


That IntheB might have it?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: NM on February 07, 2011, 03:57:00 PM
Janet
youtube of bj timeline PC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWWUhh0ZZaM

Thanks for all you do on our threads.


Cadilac,
that was funny. I thought that too.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 04:00:33 PM
Does anybody have the link to the youtube video of Billie's presss conference that was posted a while back.

Thanks

Janet


That IntheB might have it?

Janet, I just did a quick YouTube search. This one was submitted by a person from Find Hailey Dunn's Facebook:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWWUhh0ZZaM


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 04:02:34 PM
Janet
youtube of bj timeline PC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWWUhh0ZZaM

Thanks for all you do on our threads.


Cadilac,
that was funny. I thought that too.

lol we all seem to think so much alike! I also posted that youtube vid!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 04:07:26 PM
Does anybody have the link to the youtube video of Billie's presss conference that was posted a while back.

Thanks

Janet


That IntheB might have it?

Janet, I just did a quick YouTube search. This one was submitted by a person from Find Hailey Dunn's Facebook:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWWUhh0ZZaM

Thank you sooo much.

There are articles that give an overview but ... I could not locate a video or transcript from media sources of the entire press release.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 04:08:50 PM
Is there a full moon?

Bart can depict that question humorously (http://www.mywebpower.com/graphics/thumbs/funny_animations/funny_moon_bart_simpson.gif)

Omg we think alike! I shoulda finished reading the page! Lol!

Yes we do girlfriend & Im giggling really hard "ova herr"  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cw618 on February 07, 2011, 04:30:00 PM
Janet, sounds like its time for an old fashion, and a good herb tea,or if you prefer hot coco, go
ahead and indulge,good work needs to be rewarded with tasty indulgences
 ::MonkeyCool::



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 05:02:34 PM

Janet, I just did a quick YouTube search. This one was submitted by a person from Find Hailey Dunn's Facebook:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWWUhh0ZZaM


Billie ... get real!  If Shawn quit his job on December 27th ... logic dictates that he did not drive to his job after dropping you off at your workplace on the morning of December 28th.  Where was this guy on December 28th until 4:00 PM in the afternoon?

You efforts to shield Shawn and distance the truth regarding your daughter's disappearance can only be considered an ultimate betrayal of a mother.

Janet

+++++++

Billie Dunn's Press Conference (paraphrase):

1.  Shawn does not tell Billie until December 29th that was not at work on December 27th.

2.  Shawn tells Billie that on December 27th he quit his job ... cleaned out his locker  and .. returned his coveralls.

3.   Billie states states that on the morning of December 28th ... Shawn drove her to work and then drove to his workplace ... starting time 7:00 AM and ... arrived home at 4:00 PM.

Transcript

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/01/31/hailey-dunn-billie-jean-dunn-press-conference-january-31-transcription-1/


Billie's Timeline Handout

http://www.newswest9.com/Global/link.asp?L=474268



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 05:10:33 PM
Janet, sounds like its time for an old fashion, and a good herb tea,or if you prefer hot coco, go
ahead and indulge,good work needs to be rewarded with tasty indulgences
 ::MonkeyCool::



w618

For a time this morning ... I could have gone for a Spanish Coffee and ... I don't drink alcohol or coffee.

However ... I settled for a cuppa green tea and a goodie with hubby prior to him going to his workplace.  He is a great sounding board.  However ... I think he was thankful he had an exuse to leave.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 05:14:02 PM
Janet
youtube of bj timeline PC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWWUhh0ZZaM

Thanks for all you do on our threads.


Cadilac,
that was funny. I thought that too.

Thanks NM

I hope this video does not go poof.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: NM on February 07, 2011, 05:20:33 PM
Titch,
We do all think alike. But you definitely worded some good replies to intheB. I couldn't find the words that would express what I wanted to say w/out getting banned!

And Klaas thank you. I would like to just keep a running Thank You tab for you being here.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Northern Rose on February 07, 2011, 06:07:55 PM
Hailey Dunn Searchers Ask for Your Help

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339346


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 07, 2011, 06:15:47 PM
Hailey Dunn Searchers Ask for Your Help

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339346

You know, if Marc Klaas and his group had stayed, or if TES would come, they would have many more searchers.  I don't understand and I think there may be things we don't know.  Why did Marc Klaas just up and leave so quickly after first offering so much support?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 07, 2011, 06:23:44 PM
Hailey Dunn Searchers Ask for Your Help

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339346

You know, if Marc Klaas and his group had stayed, or if TES would come, they would have many more searchers.  I don't understand and I think there may be things we don't know.  Why did Marc Klaas just up and leave so quickly after first offering so much support?

Didn't he go to help with another case -- maybe Juliani Cardenas in California or the Elizabeth Ennen in Lubbock that went missing. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 06:28:29 PM
Hailey Dunn Searchers Ask for Your Help

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339346

You know, if Marc Klaas and his group had stayed, or if TES would come, they would have many more searchers.  I don't understand and I think there may be things we don't know.  Why did Marc Klaas just up and leave so quickly after first offering so much support?

I agree.

Janet

+++++

VIDEO: Billie Dunn Tries To Dispell Rumors Surrounding Her Daughter's DisappearanceBy Jacqueline Hince, KTXS News
POSTED: 6:26 pm CST January 31, 2011
UPDATED: 10:40 pm CST January 31, 2011


Billie expressed frustration with Police that they have not named other suspects, to which Kampfer responded, "Right now, we have lots of suspicion, things that are put together that lead to a person of interest, Shawn Adkins."

He said at this time Law Enforcement may not want to name anyone else, because they don't want to tip off other persons of interest on their investigation.

He added that Billie Dunn is not a person of interest in her daughter's case.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=post;topic=9340.920;num_replies=935



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 06:55:46 PM
Hailey Dunn Searchers Ask for Your Help

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339346

You know, if Marc Klaas and his group had stayed, or if TES would come, they would have many more searchers.  I don't understand and I think there may be things we don't know.  Why did Marc Klaas just up and leave so quickly after first offering so much support?

Didn't he go to help with another case -- maybe Juliani Cardenas in California or the Elizabeth Ennen in Lubbock that went missing. 
Elizabeth was murdered, suspect in custody.

".... the day after babysitting Humberto Maldonado Salinas' two children at the Carriage House Motel in Lubbock, Texas, police said.

Surveillance video from that night shows Elizabeth walking quickly out of Room 113, holding her shoes and attempting to put her coat on, when a man police have identified as Salinas forcefully grabs her and forces her back into the room, according to Lubbock police. "
http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-texas-girl-elizabeth-ennen-strangled-death-babysitting/story?id=12768898

Mark was in CC I think 1/20-1/21, Elizabeth was found 1/26 I believe


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 07:09:35 PM
Hailey Dunn Searchers Ask for Your Help

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339346

You know, if Marc Klaas and his group had stayed, or if TES would come, they would have many more searchers.  I don't understand and I think there may be things we don't know.  Why did Marc Klaas just up and leave so quickly after first offering so much support?

I think you are right Klaas~Although her friend that was banned (Billie's friend) from WS is now posting on VH, and she says that he calls her everyday and so does Brad Dennis. It is odd IMO but then again so is the fact that Shawn is giving an interview tonight on KTAB at 6pm


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 07:10:57 PM
BJD on blogtalk radio now ::MonkeyTongue::

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/08/exclusive-live--billie-dunn-speaks-1


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:11:15 PM
Hailey Dunn Searchers Ask for Your Help

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339346

You know, if Marc Klaas and his group had stayed, or if TES would come, they would have many more searchers.  I don't understand and I think there may be things we don't know.  Why did Marc Klaas just up and leave so quickly after first offering so much support?

What is sad about this is that this article denotes that those that are searching do it twice a week, unless LE has a pretty good idea who exactly did something to Hailey & we just dont all the details I'm finding it difficult to understand how LE could have this case so minimized so soon, no matter the size of the community or local PD.   I'm trying very hard not to be critical of them without being on the ground to know more but I do see that a few things were not done & others were not dealt with timely.   Its a dang shame every community doesnt have a Sgt Allen & Det Mulich or those similar to that level of professionalism & thoroughness in investigatory skills.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:14:28 PM
BJD on blogtalk radio now ::MonkeyTongue::

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/08/exclusive-live--billie-dunn-speaks-1

I have a pail & Im preparing to be both nauseous & pissed.    This interviewer is falling all over herself.  Billie is describing her daughter at the moment...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 07:15:22 PM
BJD~Hailey was a real clumsy baby, outspoken and did everything early,  (she used past tense verbage already)  ::MonkeyMad:: she looked up to her brother, as a teenager hormone issues, BJD wants to be her friend as well as a mom. Was able to stay home with her the first 4 yrs. Billie pushed the cheerleading, talking about all her activities and her school........



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 07:17:00 PM
lot so arguments and fighting with her and Clint.....
we still each other but couldn't tolerate each others personalities so they decided he should move out.
Clint just recently moved across the street within the past few months


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 07:17:06 PM
She makes me SICK! What teenage girl DOESN'T have hormone issues?

Billie is a poor excuse...actually, she's like just "void"...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:18:06 PM
BJD~Hailey was a real clumsy baby, outspoken and did everything early,  (she used past tense verbage already)  ::MonkeyMad:: she looked up to her brother, as a teenager hormone issues, BJD wants to be her friend as well as a mom. Was able to stay home with her the first 4 yrs. Billie pushed the cheerleading, talking about all her activities and her school........



She's describing not getting along with Clint & having the kids hearing arguments, what she isnt reporting is that Shawn came along right then.   Hailey took it hard, supposedly she took Hailey to counsel, "  a couple of sessions"

She is saying Hailey would "lash out out at people"  nothing like blaming the victim.     "Thats when she starting becoming more of a daddy's girl."   

I HEAR JEALOUSY!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 07:18:10 PM
the hormone and attitude issue remind me of Adam Baker ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 07:18:56 PM
BJD~Hailey was a real clumsy baby, outspoken and did everything early,  (she used past tense verbage already)  ::MonkeyMad:: she looked up to her brother, as a teenager hormone issues, BJD wants to be her friend as well as a mom. Was able to stay home with her the first 4 yrs. Billie pushed the cheerleading, talking about all her activities and her school........



She's describing not getting along with Clint & having the kids hearing arguments, what she isnt reporting is that Shawn came along right then.   Hailey took it hard, supposedly she took Hailey to counsel, "  a couple of sessions"

She is saying Hailey would "lash out out at people"  nothing like blaming the victim.     "Thats when she starting becoming more of a daddy's girl."   

I HEAR JEALOUSY!

ITA........grrrrr, I need a xanax ASAP!



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:19:04 PM
BJD~Hailey was a real clumsy baby, outspoken and did everything early,  (she used past tense verbage already)  ::MonkeyMad:: she looked up to her brother, as a teenager hormone issues, BJD wants to be her friend as well as a mom. Was able to stay home with her the first 4 yrs. Billie pushed the cheerleading, talking about all her activities and her school........



She's describing not getting along with Clint & having the kids hearing arguments, what she isnt reporting is that Shawn came along right then.   Hailey took it hard, supposedly she took Hailey to counsel, "  a couple of sessions"

She is saying Hailey would "lash out out at people"  nothing like blaming the victim.     "Thats when she starting becoming more of a daddy's girl."   

I HEAR JEALOUSY!

She just admitted that Shawn came around within a month (I say it was sooner).    Facebook account of Hailey's was from Clint's mother's house


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:19:55 PM
"At first she was ok with it, then she didnt want Shawn there at all..."   "It took a good while to warm up to him...

LADY GET A CLUE!!!!!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 07:20:25 PM
 ::MonkeyEek::

Are there problems with Hailey and Shawn ......"not anymore"

THUD.......no shit woman!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 07:21:12 PM
"At first she was ok with it, then she didnt want Shawn there at all..."   "It took a good while to warm up to him...

LADY GET A CLUE!!!!!

I know, the flip of what she said originally....

ITA Shawn was there from the get go.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:21:50 PM
She insists Connie, Clint's mother didnt tell Billie about Shawn's behavior...."I dont believe she was scared of him at all"

She is lying & worse yet she's sick in the head....how she didnt see this as clues I'll never understand that level of stupidity & love blindness.

"they would scare each other, they'd play around."


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 07:22:37 PM
Shawn was wearing sunglasses and smiling. He stated he had nothing to do with Hailey being missing and he is being the victim of a witch hunt.  SA also said the affidavits were wrong and he can explain all of it. The entire interview will be shown at 10:00pm..


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:22:47 PM
::MonkeyEek::

Are there problems with Hailey and Shawn ......"not anymore"

THUD.......no shit woman!

A confession by omission


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:23:23 PM
BILLIE IS IN LOVE WITH SHAWN,   Out of her mouth YES


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:24:27 PM
Aww...they each have family support & its nice that they get to talk.   He only doesnt live there with everything going on with Hailey.


OMG   IM FLIPPING FUMING!!!!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 07:25:22 PM
Local that lives 4 blocks away saw Shawn leave with her in her van that was donated and taken back to his grandmother's they thought. Of course it could have been to do the interview.

She is still in love with Shawn ::MonkeyNoNo:: WHAT ABOUT YOUR DAUGHTER ????????

Pls someone pass valium kitty fast ::MonkeyTongue::

I know him very well, he loves Hailey and couldn't hhurt her and he couldn't hurt me.
As soon as Hailey comes back Shawn can come back too.....????? ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:25:50 PM
Billie knows he wouldnt hurt her or Hailey.   SHe's just waiting because "People can be mean"   BEEOTCH let me tell you something you just dug your own ditch.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: 4 Donks on February 07, 2011, 07:25:59 PM
She insists Connie, Clint's mother didnt tell Billie about Shawn's behavior...."I dont believe she was scared of him at all"

She is lying & worse yet she's sick in the head....how she didnt see this as clues I'll never understand that level of stupidity & love blindness.

"they would scare each other, they'd play around."

BBM
WTH  those 2 statements negate one another.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:27:25 PM
THERE IT IS   Child Services asked her to place David elsewhere.   NO it has nothing to do with people yelling things, dont lie Billie.    Billie insists she can stay with David, no otherwise they would have removed YOU BOTH elsewhere.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cadillac on February 07, 2011, 07:27:54 PM
I love this caller and her questions.  Seriously.  She is trying to get inside her mind...and open up.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 07:27:55 PM
CPS got involved because "I got a missing kid".......her name is Hailey ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:28:03 PM
Secretary at a hospital....gee Billie tell them why


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 07:30:01 PM
Crap~she is reading her and Shawn's timeline.......ok, I so belive that BS. NOT!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 07:30:01 PM
Just popped onto the blog radio listening.. I wanna BARF.. I will prob have to re listen to it later cause I missed the beginning.
Her talkinf about Shawm made me freaking ILL as hell. SHAWN SHAWN SHAWN.. Dumbassbitch


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cadillac on February 07, 2011, 07:30:04 PM
"I typed up my timeline??????   wtf - if your daughter, your only daughter was missing, would you type up you timeline?  geez loiuse


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:30:17 PM
IM, my hubby gave me grief the other night about taking a road trip....maybe he's right but I need more than Valium at the moment, OMG this chick has me fuming like a volcano ready to erupt!  Yea, that hot!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 07:31:27 PM
Here we go again with the DARK BOY comment.. how freaking rude of her there too..


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 07:31:41 PM
IM, my hubby gave me grief the other night about taking a road trip....maybe he's right but I need more than Valium at the moment, OMG this chick has me fuming like a volcano ready to erupt!  Yea, that hot!
Me too, cyber send me one......and she just used the term "dark boy " again... ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:32:00 PM
Just popped onto the blog radio listening.. I wanna BARF.. I will prob have to re listen to it later cause I missed the beginning.
Her talkinf about Shawm made me freaking ILL as hell. SHAWN SHAWN SHAWN.. Dumbassbitch

I;ll have to listen again for details later as well, if I can muster it calmer...right now Im listening for glaring things & a general reaction.   As you can read, she has already incensed  me


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 07:32:08 PM
THERE IT IS   Child Services asked her to place David elsewhere.   NO it has nothing to do with people yelling things, dont lie Billie.    Billie insists she can stay with David, no otherwise they would have removed YOU BOTH elsewhere.

Damn Straight! We called that from the get go!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 07:32:43 PM
Here we go again with the DARK BOY comment.. how freaking rude of her there too..
::MonkeyNoNo:: You seem to be inside my head Angie.....scary to have this person as a mother.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cadillac on February 07, 2011, 07:33:06 PM
All she does is DEFEND herself and SA - why isn't she upset that her daughter is missing?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:33:35 PM
This woman with the red box receipt...means nothing!   Billie knock it off, your daughter was NOT with Mary Beth.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:34:57 PM
Here we go again with the DARK BOY comment.. how freaking rude of her there too..

She's a racist on top of a low life, lying ho of a beeotch serving as a poor example for a mother.   Fillied with jealousy & twisted devotion.   Im outraged.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Puzzler on February 07, 2011, 07:36:10 PM
DISGUSTING


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 07:36:40 PM
Just popped onto the blog radio listening.. I wanna BARF.. I will prob have to re listen to it later cause I missed the beginning.
Her talkinf about Shawm made me freaking ILL as hell. SHAWN SHAWN SHAWN.. Dumbassbitch

I;ll have to listen again for details later as well, if I can muster it calmer...right now Im listening for glaring things & a general reaction.   As you can read, she has already incensed  me

 I LOVE your posts and your attitude.. you take words out of my mouth that I can't express! LOL
I will listen to this again.. I mainly follted Natalee's case since the beginning.
Its nice to see lotsa new people on SM..   I mainly read anymore..  Sometimes I just do not know what to say. Billie is a skankhobetchdruugydumbass   ~!  Trust me.. I have a rotten mouth.. LOL and I was being NICE!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:36:55 PM
STOP blaming Clint beeotch...Clint calling police or not has NOTHING to do with you having that psycho in the house...we know it, God knows it


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 07:37:25 PM
Here we go again with the DARK BOY comment.. how freaking rude of her there too..

She's a racist on top of a low life, lying ho of a beeotch serving as a poor example for a mother.   Fillied with jealousy & twisted devotion.   Im outraged.

Agreed!!! Now she is talking about Clint not calling LE ahead of time to let them know she was going to grace them with her presence ::MonkeyTongue:: Why not call 911 from work, she's done it before when she wanted to make sure Shawn didn't go into HER house and get a t-shirt, plus they'd have to come to the house anyway.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:38:29 PM
Just popped onto the blog radio listening.. I wanna BARF.. I will prob have to re listen to it later cause I missed the beginning.
Her talkinf about Shawm made me freaking ILL as hell. SHAWN SHAWN SHAWN.. Dumbassbitch

I;ll have to listen again for details later as well, if I can muster it calmer...right now Im listening for glaring things & a general reaction.   As you can read, she has already incensed  me

 I LOVE your posts and your attitude.. you take words out of my mouth that I can't express! LOL
I will listen to this again.. I mainly follted Natalee's case since the beginning.
Its nice to see lotsa new people on SM..   I mainly read anymore..  Sometimes I just do not know what to say. Billie is a skankhobetchdruugydumbass   ~!  Trust me.. I have a rotten mouth.. LOL and I was being NICE!  ::MonkeyWink::

Awws  Im glad you came down from the branch & please stick around...let it flow Angie & I look forward to seeing you more often


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: 4 Donks on February 07, 2011, 07:38:43 PM
This woman with the red box receipt...means nothing!   Billie knock it off, your daughter was NOT with Mary Beth.
She sounds like the Anthonys. Throw everyone under the bus but the guilty..only this time she's doing it to another child. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 07:38:56 PM
Here we go again with the DARK BOY comment.. how freaking rude of her there too..
::MonkeyNoNo:: You seem to be inside my head Angie.....scary to have this person as a mother.

 She didnt need to say that.. I know she has before.. why just not say Naomis son... I feel bad for that poor kid now too.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 07:40:33 PM
Here we go again with the DARK BOY comment.. how freaking rude of her there too..
::MonkeyNoNo:: You seem to be inside my head Angie.....scary to have this person as a mother.

 She didnt need to say that.. I know she has before.. why just not say Naomis son... I feel bad for that poor kid now too.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I know, it so rude!!!!! She is trying to throw everyone under the bus except loverboyhuneybunspsycho POS with skank!

So, she called CPS on someone..........wow, that takes ALOT of nerve ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:42:46 PM
BILLIE...talking crap about this other person threatened her and Hailey.   "He had gotten lost doing drugs, he's crazy now."    This person reportedy threatened to hit her and Hailey in the head with a hammer after Billie threatened to call CPS on him.   Its not Clint, another POI according to investigators.   Not family, not someone she dated.   BULL, BULL and MORE BULL

"Im too afraid of what I could find, every day they dont find for me, its good for me"   Really Billie, really?   I bet its good for you & Shawn...no body, no case, think again.   Billie you didnt organize anything MK volunteered so stop coming off like you are doing ANYTHING cuz you are not.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 07:43:43 PM
BILLIE...talking crap about this other person threatened her and Hailey.   "He had gotten lost doing drugs, he's crazy now."    This person reportedy threatened to hit her and Hailey in the head with a hammer after Billie threatened to call CPS on him.   Its not Clint, another POI according to investigators.   Not family, not someone she dated.   BULL, BULL and MORE BULL

"Im too afraid of what I could find, every day they dont find for me, its good for me"   Really Billie, really?   I bet its good for you & Shawn...no body, no case, think again.   Billie you didnt organize anything MK volunteered so stop coming off like you are doing ANYTHING cuz you are not.

And his name is Manny the nanny I guess;-(


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 07:44:50 PM
Here we go again with the DARK BOY comment.. how freaking rude of her there too..

She's a racist on top of a low life, lying ho of a beeotch serving as a poor example for a mother.   Fillied with jealousy & twisted devotion.   Im outraged.

 Same here.. she needs a freaking 2x4 rammed up her stupid ass.. and her studmuffins..  I felt sorry for her at first.. cant say I do anymore..  I feel worse for Clint.. He seems to give a shit more.  Hope Hailey is alive.. but.. I have to agree with Janets theory of what happened.  Cokesnorting Billie cant see any further then ShawnMichaelMyersstudmuffincumfmebaby ! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 07:45:51 PM
Here we go again with the DARK BOY comment.. how freaking rude of her there too..

She's a racist on top of a low life, lying ho of a beeotch serving as a poor example for a mother.   Fillied with jealousy & twisted devotion.   Im outraged.

 Same here.. she needs a freaking 2x4 rammed up her stupid ass.. and her studmuffins..  I felt sorry for her at first.. cant say I do anymore..  I feel worse for Clint.. He seems to give a shit more.  Hope Hailey is alive.. but.. I have to agree with Janets theory of what happened.  Cokesnorting Billie cant see any further then ShawnMichaelMyersstudmuffincumfmebaby ! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: you left out stripper  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 07:47:17 PM
Here we go again with the DARK BOY comment.. how freaking rude of her there too..

I can't stand her!What's up with saying that? I mean, why not just say "Naomi's son" if she doesn't wanna mention his name? Klaas, since you and Muffy are too much "of a lady", it pleases me to say what most must be thinking - That Racist Bitch!

Naomi, if you read here, don't stoop to her level. She's not worth it. You have enough on your plate right now. She's probably trying to provoke you and Clint. Don't fall for it. She's a loser that'll probably never amount to anything. You guys are in a position right now where it's so low all you can do is move up. You guys can do it. Forget about that waste of life, she's not worth it! Concentrate on your gorgeous son and adorable daughter. Concentrate on doing whatever you guys can to find Hailey. Concentrate on helping David however you can. Billie is just void...wasted chromosomes. At this point, after hearing her speak yet again, I could honestly care less if she's guilty or not in Hailey's disappearance...bc she's scum anyway imvho.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:47:17 PM
O MAN, she is now blaming investigators for asking if Hailey was promiscuous as to why she brings up that Hailey didnt do drugs or have sex "she isnt a bad kid in that sense."  NO HER B/F STATED THAT

In what sense is she a bad kid Billie?   Every word out of your mouth has a double meaning & we're catching it...trust me!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:50:12 PM
Bologna Billie...she says if there was a problem with Hailey having Shawn there he wouldnt be....let me say this as distinctly as I can...YOU ARE FULL OF CRAP!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 07:50:16 PM
"Shawn didn't and would never come b4 my children" and "she wants her back in my house".....

Hmmm, he already was the priority over your kids among many I am certain


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:52:12 PM
Note to interviewer:   heartfelt my sweet adorable one!   Do you hear tears?   DO you hear remorse that her daughter couldnt stand Shawn & yet she still had him there even before Christmas?   DO you hear her admit that Shawn threatened lives?    NO

COME ON NOW!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 07:52:30 PM
Just popped onto the blog radio listening.. I wanna BARF.. I will prob have to re listen to it later cause I missed the beginning.
Her talkinf about Shawm made me freaking ILL as hell. SHAWN SHAWN SHAWN.. Dumbassbitch

I;ll have to listen again for details later as well, if I can muster it calmer...right now Im listening for glaring things & a general reaction.   As you can read, she has already incensed  me

 I LOVE your posts and your attitude.. you take words out of my mouth that I can't express! LOL
I will listen to this again.. I mainly follted Natalee's case since the beginning.
Its nice to see lotsa new people on SM..   I mainly read anymore..  Sometimes I just do not know what to say. Billie is a skankhobetchdruugydumbass   ~!  Trust me.. I have a rotten mouth.. LOL and I was being NICE!  ::MonkeyWink::

Awws  Im glad you came down from the branch & please stick around...let it flow Angie & I look forward to seeing you more often

 TY.. the more I listen the more pizzed off I am getting!  Been running in and out of my computer room.. Like I said.. need to listen to her BS again.

Her brother gave a poly? WOW


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 07:54:45 PM
Poly would be a waste of Hailey's precious time (well if you did it ASAP with the feds it wouldn't have been time wated), but yeah she might ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 07:55:04 PM
Here we go again with the DARK BOY comment.. how freaking rude of her there too..

She's a racist on top of a low life, lying ho of a beeotch serving as a poor example for a mother.   Fillied with jealousy & twisted devotion.   Im outraged.

 Same here.. she needs a freaking 2x4 rammed up her stupid ass.. and her studmuffins..  I felt sorry for her at first.. cant say I do anymore..  I feel worse for Clint.. He seems to give a shit more.  Hope Hailey is alive.. but.. I have to agree with Janets theory of what happened.  Cokesnorting Billie cant see any further then ShawnMichaelMyersstudmuffincumfmebaby ! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: you left out stripper  ::MonkeyJnBox::


 ::MonkeyJnBox::  I wish I were here neighbor.. Id bitch slap her up side her dumazz head.. Grrrrrrrrrrr


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:56:16 PM
Now, after all this she's willing to get another poly....O please do Billie, please do.

She blames being frustrated and tired on failing... She had no doubt in her mind she would pass.   OHHH now she admits to standing up with an attitude and left the poly.   She is speaking as if a 10 hour interrogation is out of the norm...ITS NOT, not even for non suspects, yes family members can be endlessly interviewed.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 07:56:43 PM
Here we go again with the DARK BOY comment.. how freaking rude of her there too..

She's a racist on top of a low life, lying ho of a beeotch serving as a poor example for a mother.   Fillied with jealousy & twisted devotion.   Im outraged.

 Same here.. she needs a freaking 2x4 rammed up her stupid ass.. and her studmuffins..  I felt sorry for her at first.. cant say I do anymore..  I feel worse for Clint.. He seems to give a shit more.  Hope Hailey is alive.. but.. I have to agree with Janets theory of what happened.  Cokesnorting Billie cant see any further then ShawnMichaelMyersstudmuffincumfmebaby ! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: you left out stripper  ::MonkeyJnBox::


 ::MonkeyJnBox::  I wish I were here neighbor.. Id bitch slap her up side her dumazz head.. Grrrrrrrrrrr

well, Capp and I are thinking about a road trip LOL ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 07:56:43 PM
Here we go again with the DARK BOY comment.. how freaking rude of her there too..

I can't stand her!What's up with saying that? I mean, why not just say "Naomi's son" if she doesn't wanna mention his name? Klaas, since you and Muffy are too much "of a lady", it pleases me to say what most must be thinking - That Racist Bitch!

Naomi, if you read here, don't stoop to her level. She's not worth it. You have enough on your plate right now. She's probably trying to provoke you and Clint. Don't fall for it. She's a loser that'll probably never amount to anything. You guys are in a position right now where it's so low all you can do is move up. You guys can do it. Forget about that waste of life, she's not worth it! Concentrate on your gorgeous son and adorable daughter. Concentrate on doing whatever you guys can to find Hailey. Concentrate on helping David however you can. Billie is just void...wasted chromosomes. At this point, after hearing her speak yet again, I could honestly care less if she's guilty or not in Hailey's disappearance...bc she's scum anyway imvho.

 AMEN to that chicky !


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:57:14 PM
Here we go again with the DARK BOY comment.. how freaking rude of her there too..

She's a racist on top of a low life, lying ho of a beeotch serving as a poor example for a mother.   Fillied with jealousy & twisted devotion.   Im outraged.

 Same here.. she needs a freaking 2x4 rammed up her stupid ass.. and her studmuffins..  I felt sorry for her at first.. cant say I do anymore..  I feel worse for Clint.. He seems to give a shit more.  Hope Hailey is alive.. but.. I have to agree with Janets theory of what happened.  Cokesnorting Billie cant see any further then ShawnMichaelMyersstudmuffincumfmebaby ! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: you left out stripper  ::MonkeyJnBox::


 ::MonkeyJnBox::  I wish I were here neighbor.. Id bitch slap her up side her dumazz head.. Grrrrrrrrrrr

Hubby is holding me back...just in case I break free you can join me & IslandMonkey because she needs a few good B slaps


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 07:58:38 PM
Now, after all this she's willing to get another poly....O please do Billie, please do.

She blames being frustrated and tired on failing... She had no doubt in her mind she would pass.   OHHH now she admits to standing up with an attitude and left the poly.   She is speaking as if a 10 hour interrogation is out of the norm...ITS NOT, not even for non suspects, yes family members can be endlessly interviewed.
::rhino:: ::rhino::

Especially when they can't slear them ::MonkeyMad::

Don't you know LE wanted to bitch slap her too.....



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 07:59:05 PM
*clear" not slear


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 07:59:34 PM
Lady interviewer:   This town, this community, the general public dont want anything to do with this lying beeotch...we want to find Hailey, but Billie is a waste of time.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 08:00:25 PM
Here we go again with the DARK BOY comment.. how freaking rude of her there too..

She's a racist on top of a low life, lying ho of a beeotch serving as a poor example for a mother.   Fillied with jealousy & twisted devotion.   Im outraged.

 Same here.. she needs a freaking 2x4 rammed up her stupid ass.. and her studmuffins..  I felt sorry for her at first.. cant say I do anymore..  I feel worse for Clint.. He seems to give a shit more.  Hope Hailey is alive.. but.. I have to agree with Janets theory of what happened.  Cokesnorting Billie cant see any further then ShawnMichaelMyersstudmuffincumfmebaby ! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: you left out stripper  ::MonkeyJnBox::


 ::MonkeyJnBox::  I wish I were here neighbor.. Id bitch slap her up side her dumazz head.. Grrrrrrrrrrr

well, Capp and I are thinking about a road trip LOL ::monkeywine2::

 ::MonkeyCool:: I need out of PA and the snow and ice!  :)~ No damn wonder I am drinking a beer listening to this BS!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 08:00:59 PM
According to Billie in today's interview ... one of the "couple of other people" who took and failed polygraphs was her brother.  She revealed that he ended up passing on the third try.

Janet

+++++

A Couple Other People Failed Polygraphs

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 6, 2011 - 20:00   ET


<snipped>

BILLIE DUNN: ... They came, picked him up. He took his. I went in. They told me he failed it. I lost it, of course. I told them I had so much faith in that test.

Then they took me over to the courthouse. I took a polygraph test. I failed it, lost all faith in the test. A couple of other people failed it. One guy I do not know. One person took it three times, took it twice and failed it.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/06/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 08:02:25 PM
YOU GO CALLER!    Confronting her on Shawn's previous death threat...how can you still be with him


Looking for this answer Billie

"I know him very well, it was over a year ago & he was upset with me and Clint.  I did call law enforcement, I didnt want him at my house."   


SHE'S right up there with Casey Anthony, a lying skank.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 08:02:30 PM
WOW!!!

Caller:  How can you communicate with somebody who threatened to kill you in a way that would be remembered??


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 08:03:05 PM
OH GAG the heck out of me.. she is STILL sticking up for him over the 911 call and threats! WTF????
 I USED to be a dispatcher years ago..  this is BS.. she makes me flipping sick.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 08:03:16 PM
Here we go again with the DARK BOY comment.. how freaking rude of her there too..

She's a racist on top of a low life, lying ho of a beeotch serving as a poor example for a mother.   Fillied with jealousy & twisted devotion.   Im outraged.

 Same here.. she needs a freaking 2x4 rammed up her stupid ass.. and her studmuffins..  I felt sorry for her at first.. cant say I do anymore..  I feel worse for Clint.. He seems to give a shit more.  Hope Hailey is alive.. but.. I have to agree with Janets theory of what happened.  Cokesnorting Billie cant see any further then ShawnMichaelMyersstudmuffincumfmebaby ! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: you left out stripper  ::MonkeyJnBox::


 ::MonkeyJnBox::  I wish I were here neighbor.. Id bitch slap her up side her dumazz head.. Grrrrrrrrrrr

well, Capp and I are thinking about a road trip LOL ::monkeywine2::

 ::MonkeyCool:: I need out of PA and the snow and ice!  :)~ No damn wonder I am drinking a beer listening to this BS!

Well there ya go, I was on the beach walking in the water this weekend!! Come on down and we will head over to Texas.....

Oh wow, Michael from the guilty page asked a hard question finally.......

She said that call was a yr ago in the beginning of their relationship, WTF-they have been together for 3 yrs so that was 2yrs after they started dating, she can't help but lie can she??

Now, the couch question......

taken out a few weeks ago, brother got new furniture and gave her his old furniture. It is at the dump she states


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 08:03:35 PM
The couches were taken out a couple of weeks, her brother brought her better ones.  Some guys came to pick them up & they are at the local dump.   She insists the searches werent for the couch.   Hmmmm


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 08:03:38 PM
WOW!!!

Caller:  How can you communicate with somebody who threatened to kill you in a way that would be remembered??

AMEN to that Janet !!!!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 08:04:03 PM
OMG I absolutely HATE her. I can;t get over her racist remark. Think about how it affects the rest of Hailey's friends. Hailey is friends with a plethora of friends, various skin colors & races. What a despicable person Billie is for saying that. She's utterly disgusting. Can anyone even imagine what Hailey's classmates are feeling right now? Her stupid interview will be on news stands tomorrow...maybe even tonight. They're gonna see it! Read what she said with their very own eyes. Hailey's group of friends is very diversified.

Billie Jean Dunn sure is making enemies. I'm fuming!

 ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 08:04:35 PM
WOW!!!

Caller:  How can you communicate with somebody who threatened to kill you in a way that would be remembered??

Answer was way not sufficient & doesnt even begin to excuse her keeping that monster in the house with her children.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 08:05:35 PM
LOL She says she dont drink? HA HA HA   And now says she took ativan <sp?> EVER since Hailey LEFT?  Ughhhhhhh


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 08:05:39 PM
This interviewer has no business speaking as to why she was "prescribed" a drug.  NONE   Not to mention she didnt obtain it legally....o yea let's not forget that little detail.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 08:06:58 PM
Billie says that Shawn was in Big Springs at his mothers the entire day Hailey was reported missing.   O really, why wasnt he at work?   His boss stated that he wasnt fired & didnt quit.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 08:07:01 PM
ISLAND MONKEY !!   Be great to get away !  :)  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 08:07:05 PM
LOL She says she dont drink? HA HA HA   And now says she took ativan <sp?> EVER since Hailey LEFT?  Ughhhhhhh


Left for where Billie??


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 08:07:28 PM
The couches were taken out a couple of weeks, her brother brought her better ones.  Some guys came to pick them up & they are at the local dump.   She insists the searches werent for the couch.   Hmmmm

Yeah right.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 08:08:55 PM
The couches were taken out a couple of weeks, her brother brought her better ones.  Some guys came to pick them up & they are at the local dump.   She insists the searches werent for the couch.   Hmmmm

So the couches weren't Shawn's? Why were they in his truck then? Just for storage until they could be removed?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 08:09:04 PM
Billie was asked about the poly

Judging by the questions, its determining whether she is still being deceptive...answer to that as far as my opinion, yes.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 08:10:20 PM
OMG I absolutely HATE her. I can;t get over her racist remark. Think about how it affects the rest of Hailey's friends. Hailey is friends with a plethora of friends, various skin colors & races. What a despicable person Billie is for saying that. She's utterly disgusting. Can anyone even imagine what Hailey's classmates are feeling right now? Her stupid interview will be on news stands tomorrow...maybe even tonight. They're gonna see it! Read what she said with their very own eyes. Hailey's group of friends is very diversified.

Billie Jean Dunn sure is making enemies. I'm fuming!

 ::MonkeyMad::

 I agree.. !!    Shes so damn dumb shes happy!  <famous saying my deceased Gramma used to say>  lol


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 08:10:20 PM
WOW!!!

Caller:  How can you communicate with somebody who threatened to kill you in a way that would be remembered??

AMEN to that Janet !!!!

Hi Grandma!!

 ::HelloKitty::

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 08:12:32 PM
 ::MonkeyShocked:: She said she didn't go to the balloon release because she didn't know?????? Give me a break ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 08:13:18 PM
WOW!!!

Caller:  How can you communicate with somebody who threatened to kill you in a way that would be remembered??

AMEN to that Janet !!!!

Hi Grandma!!

 OT ~!  LOL
Hey Janet~!!   ::MonkeyDance:: Had my baby today and shes sick.  I love her so much. I am happy I am a young Grammy.. lol
Hope you are doing well honey!!  ::MonkeyKiss::
 I agree with eberyone else who posted earlier about the person who was upset about the copying of posts? Poopy on it.. you didnt do anything wrong !!  HUGS !!

 ::HelloKitty::

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 08:14:00 PM
If she automatically panicked, then why didn;t she call the cops right away instead of wasting time driving from friend to friend? She's such a liar!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 08:15:35 PM
If she automatically panicked, then why didn;t she call the cops right away instead of wasting time driving from friend to friend? She's such a liar!

ITA, if she can call 911 from work about a t-shirt why wouldn't she call about her missing child?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 08:15:36 PM
WOW!!!

Caller:  How can you communicate with somebody who threatened to kill you in a way that would be remembered??

AMEN to that Janet !!!!

Hi Grandma!!

 ::HelloKitty::

Janet

 OT ~!  LOL
Hey Janet~!!   ::MonkeyDance:: Had my baby today and shes sick.  I love her so much. I am happy I am a young Grammy.. lol
Hope you are doing well honey!!  ::MonkeyKiss::
 I agree with eberyone else who posted earlier about the person who was upset about the copying of posts? Poopy on it.. you didnt do anything wrong !!  HUGS !!


 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 08:16:01 PM
Caller asked why Billie spoke about the way Hailey walked. Billie answers by saying it was bc of Hailey's facial expression. Are you kidding me? What does her face have to do with the way she walks?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 08:16:45 PM
Hold up she is now stating that David & a friend did that to each other's backs?    She brought home the supplies & as a secretary there is NO REASON TO, NONE.   She is lying.   Is it any wonder why David is not placed in that home still?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 08:16:51 PM
Sorry Janet.. I posted in your box.. You know me and my boo boos and typos.. Sorry! LOL


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 08:17:01 PM
Billie said she didn;t burn the "tatt". She said her son & his friend got hold of some pens & silver nitrate sticks that she brought homw from work and did it to themselves. She's ridiculous. She's in ALOT of trouble & she knows it.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 08:17:39 PM
Gotta hand it to the callers, they are asking some great questions.

Again, my daughter is not IN MY HOUSE??? Weird verbage IMO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 08:17:40 PM
Hold up she is now stating that David & a friend did that to each other's backs?    She brought home the supplies & as a secretary there is NO REASON TO, NONE.   She is lying.   Is it any wonder why David is not placed in that home still?

 I agree 100% 



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 08:17:46 PM
"its silly" that she is not reacting frantic or upset....caller is really confronting her on her attitude.   NO BILLIE YOU HAVE NOT BROKEN DOWN, thats the point


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 08:17:49 PM
Caller asks why she's calm. Dude, she's calm bc she's ON ATIVAN!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 08:18:20 PM
Gotta hand it to the callers, they are asking some great questions.

Again, my daughter is not IN MY HOUSE??? Weird verbage IMO

She has repetitively used that verbage & yes it is odd...distancing


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 08:20:10 PM
She's an idiot.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 08:21:28 PM
Gotta hand it to the callers, they are asking some great questions.

Again, my daughter is not IN MY HOUSE??? Weird verbage IMO

She has repetitively used that verbage & yes it is odd...distancing

She's been distancing since day one!!!! Why have someone else call to find out she is missing to begin with, and never even talk to MB, also she needs to be reminded that house is her and Clint's house.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 08:21:28 PM
Billie claims that Shawn was in Big Bridge on December 28th.  I believe it.  I suspect that a furthering of the cover up from December 27th was taking place.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 08:21:28 PM
Caller asks why she's calm. Dude, she's calm bc she's ON ATIVAN!

Shes trying to bring on the tears now since she was confronted on it.   Ativan doesnt even begin to cover why she is so cold, she would still have some notable effect.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 08:22:06 PM
Prayers with Hailey   ::MonkeyAngel::   ::MonkeyAngel::

 BJD.. you suck.. I feel bad you kid is lost.. but honestly..  do you have ONE brain cell left at all?   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 08:22:52 PM
Kendell Dean wrote a song....here we go again

Anthony redux...Im sorry I cant even muster the emotion right now, Im to ticked right now.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 08:23:09 PM
Sorry Janet.. I posted in your box.. You know me and my boo boos and typos.. Sorry! LOL

I know your heart Angie.
Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 08:23:18 PM
Caller asks why she's calm. Dude, she's calm bc she's ON ATIVAN!

Shes trying to bring on the tears now since she was confronted on it.   Ativan doesnt even begin to cover why she is so cold, she would still have some notable effect.

No it doesn't, I was on it after Eli died for a long time, I would break down at work, home or whenever I saw anything that reminded me of him........it would take ativan and about 20 drinks for me to be that numb


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 08:23:42 PM
Billie Jean Dunn is an absolute liar! She just said Hailey never lived with Byerly! Yeah right. Her justification was stating that Hailey's only been in the CCity school. Well wasn't it stated she stayed with Byerly during the summer? I'm assuming she may have missed a bit of school or Byerly took her to school. No way that woman would give that info to the media and to the police if it weren't true, and the cops woulda checked it out. If Byerly lied about Hailey staying with her, it would have been found out. Billie's LYING!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 08:24:19 PM
stupid azz lollipop kid! she makes me sick!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 08:24:38 PM
Kendell Dean wrote a song....here we go again

Anthony redux...Im sorry I cant even muster the emotion right now, Im to ticked right now.
::MonkeyJnBox::

Did I hear that wrong or did he just say for Hailey and Clint??


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 08:24:52 PM
Kendall Dean's song is a dedication to HAILEY & CLINT

Stick that in your pipe & smoke that Billie...PS Shawn he's scum too


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 08:26:15 PM
no disrespect, but please, this is not american idol


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 08:26:23 PM
The Hailey Sightings

VIDEO: Billie Dunn Tries To Dispell Rumors Surrounding Her Daughter's DisappearanceBy POSTED: 6:26 pm CST January 31, 2011
UPDATED: 10:40 pm CST January 31, 2011


<snipped>

Billie Dunn believes the last time her daughter was seen was December 27th at 8:30 p.m. by a neighbor, who claims she saw Hailey with the friend she said she was spending the night with, and a teenage boy.

Colorado City City Manager Pete Kampfer says the witness statements mentioned by Billie could not be validated.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26683573/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 08:26:28 PM
Billie Jean Dunn is an absolute liar! She just said Hailey never lived with Byerly! Yeah right. Her justification was stating that Hailey's only been in the CCity school. Well wasn't it stated she stayed with Byerly during the summer? I'm assuming she may have missed a bit of school or Byerly took her to school. No way that woman would give that info to the media and to the police if it weren't true, and the cops woulda checked it out. If Byerly lied about Hailey staying with her, it would have been found out. Billie's LYING!

IIRC and I can find the transcript she told NG that Hailey did indeed live with an "extended family member", I remember it so well because I thought how on earth is a friend that you met from dating someone an extended family member. If I lived next door, I'd be afriad lightning might strike so hard it would burn downn my house too ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 08:26:29 PM
Caller asks why she's calm. Dude, she's calm bc she's ON ATIVAN!

Shes trying to bring on the tears now since she was confronted on it.   Ativan doesnt even begin to cover why she is so cold, she would still have some notable effect.

No it doesn't, I was on it after Eli died for a long time, I would break down at work, home or whenever I saw anything that reminded me of him........it would take ativan and about 20 drinks for me to be that numb
I know sweetie, you & yours have always been in my heart  :smt056


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 08:27:34 PM
Billie's flat response:   "That was beautiful & Im glad I got a chance to hear it."   The interviewers are more broken up over it.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 08:28:22 PM
Caller asks why she's calm. Dude, she's calm bc she's ON ATIVAN!

Shes trying to bring on the tears now since she was confronted on it.   Ativan doesnt even begin to cover why she is so cold, she would still have some notable effect.

No it doesn't, I was on it after Eli died for a long time, I would break down at work, home or whenever I saw anything that reminded me of him........it would take ativan and about 20 drinks for me to be that numb

Awww IM, sending hugs n kisses your way honey...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 08:28:42 PM
The Hailey Sightings

VIDEO: Billie Dunn Tries To Dispell Rumors Surrounding Her Daughter's DisappearanceBy POSTED: 6:26 pm CST January 31, 2011
UPDATED: 10:40 pm CST January 31, 2011


<snipped>

Billie Dunn believes the last time her daughter was seen was December 27th at 8:30 p.m. by a neighbor, who claims she saw Hailey with the friend she said she was spending the night with, and a teenage boy.

Colorado City City Manager Pete Kampfer says the witness statements mentioned by Billie could not be validated.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26683573/detail.html

Says alot doesnt it


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 08:28:55 PM
Donna Byerley, who was introduced to the family after a friend dated a relative of Billie Jean, has described the girl’s home life as “volatile at times.” She said Hailey didn’t get along with her mother’s boyfriend and described Hailey herself as wandering “here and there,” coming and going largely “as she pleases.”Byerley said in an interview Friday that Hailey stayed with her and her boyfriend off and on, including the final two weeks of the 2009-10 school year.“The last few weeks, perhaps month, she was living with her dad because she doesn’t like the boyfriend (Billie Jean’s),” Byerley said.

Billie Jean said Hailey also stayed at her dad’s house for less than a month at a time but has always wanted to come back home and that her daughter had at one point moved to Snyder and enrolled in school there while staying with extended family.
“I let her try it out for a minute,” she said in reference to Hailey staying with family members. “I couldn’t let her stay longer than that and really, she didn’t want to anyway.”




http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/10/officials-teenager-likely-a-runaway/


And it was on NG too.......why lie about something so easily disproven????


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 08:29:32 PM
Billie Jean Dunn is an absolute liar! She just said Hailey never lived with Byerly! Yeah right. Her justification was stating that Hailey's only been in the CCity school. Well wasn't it stated she stayed with Byerly during the summer? I'm assuming she may have missed a bit of school or Byerly took her to school. No way that woman would give that info to the media and to the police if it weren't true, and the cops woulda checked it out. If Byerly lied about Hailey staying with her, it would have been found out. Billie's LYING!

IIRC and I can find the transcript she told NG that Hailey did indeed live with an "extended family member", I remember it so well because I thought how on earth is a friend that you met from dating someone an extended family member. If I lived next door, I'd be afriad lightning might strike so hard it would burn downn my house too ::MonkeyBike::

She also lied about not being on the internet, that's how she met Shawn!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 08:30:26 PM
Caller asks why she's calm. Dude, she's calm bc she's ON ATIVAN!

Shes trying to bring on the tears now since she was confronted on it.   Ativan doesnt even begin to cover why she is so cold, she would still have some notable effect.

No it doesn't, I was on it after Eli died for a long time, I would break down at work, home or whenever I saw anything that reminded me of him........it would take ativan and about 20 drinks for me to be that numb
I know sweetie, you & yours have always been in my heart  :smt056

Thanks, I appreciate that and just wanted to say ativan or xanax doesn't numb to that point, she's crazy and that is the best thing I can say about her ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 08:30:37 PM
Sorry Janet.. I posted in your box.. You know me and my boo boos and typos.. Sorry! LOL

I know your heart Angie.
Janet

 I knowyou do Janet!  As well as I know yours too !!  HUGS!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 08:31:33 PM
She's an idiot.

 LOL ~! You are being too kind!!  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 08:31:34 PM
Donna Byerley, who was introduced to the family after a friend dated a relative of Billie Jean, has described the girl’s home life as “volatile at times.” She said Hailey didn’t get along with her mother’s boyfriend and described Hailey herself as wandering “here and there,” coming and going largely “as she pleases.”Byerley said in an interview Friday that Hailey stayed with her and her boyfriend off and on, including the final two weeks of the 2009-10 school year.“The last few weeks, perhaps month, she was living with her dad because she doesn’t like the boyfriend (Billie Jean’s),” Byerley said.

Billie Jean said Hailey also stayed at her dad’s house for less than a month at a time but has always wanted to come back home and that her daughter had at one point moved to Snyder and enrolled in school there while staying with extended family.
“I let her try it out for a minute,” she said in reference to Hailey staying with family members. “I couldn’t let her stay longer than that and really, she didn’t want to anyway.”




http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/10/officials-teenager-likely-a-runaway/


And it was on NG too.......why lie about something so easily disproven????

bc she's a frickin habitual liar. she changes her story according to what she thinks will fit. omg i can;t stand her!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 08:33:00 PM
Donna Byerley, who was introduced to the family after a friend dated a relative of Billie Jean, has described the girl’s home life as “volatile at times.” She said Hailey didn’t get along with her mother’s boyfriend and described Hailey herself as wandering “here and there,” coming and going largely “as she pleases.”Byerley said in an interview Friday that Hailey stayed with her and her boyfriend off and on, including the final two weeks of the 2009-10 school year.“The last few weeks, perhaps month, she was living with her dad because she doesn’t like the boyfriend (Billie Jean’s),” Byerley said.

Billie Jean said Hailey also stayed at her dad’s house for less than a month at a time but has always wanted to come back home and that her daughter had at one point moved to Snyder and enrolled in school there while staying with extended family.
“I let her try it out for a minute,” she said in reference to Hailey staying with family members. “I couldn’t let her stay longer than that and really, she didn’t want to anyway.”




http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/10/officials-teenager-likely-a-runaway/


And it was on NG too.......why lie about something so easily disproven????

She is unraveling slow but sure...the truth will prevail, just not soon enough for us & certainly nothing this beeotch was willing to do to keep her daughter safe & on this earth to live a full life, I am regretfully & heartbrokenly doubtful of a miraculous outcome.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 08:33:59 PM
no disrespect, but please, this is not american idol

 No disrespect but I cant help but laugh !!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 08:34:21 PM
Caller asks why she's calm. Dude, she's calm bc she's ON ATIVAN!

Shes trying to bring on the tears now since she was confronted on it.   Ativan doesnt even begin to cover why she is so cold, she would still have some notable effect.

No it doesn't, I was on it after Eli died for a long time, I would break down at work, home or whenever I saw anything that reminded me of him........it would take ativan and about 20 drinks for me to be that numb

Awww IM, sending hugs n kisses your way honey...

Thanks Titch, if it wasn't for alot of support from my family and monkey family I'd be bat shit crazy.....but so many have experienced it and helped me learn to deal...never in a million yrs was I even 1/100000000000 a unemotional as Billie ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 08:34:44 PM
Donna Byerley, who was introduced to the family after a friend dated a relative of Billie Jean, has described the girl’s home life as “volatile at times.” She said Hailey didn’t get along with her mother’s boyfriend and described Hailey herself as wandering “here and there,” coming and going largely “as she pleases.”Byerley said in an interview Friday that Hailey stayed with her and her boyfriend off and on, including the final two weeks of the 2009-10 school year.“The last few weeks, perhaps month, she was living with her dad because she doesn’t like the boyfriend (Billie Jean’s),” Byerley said.

Billie Jean said Hailey also stayed at her dad’s house for less than a month at a time but has always wanted to come back home and that her daughter had at one point moved to Snyder and enrolled in school there while staying with extended family.
“I let her try it out for a minute,” she said in reference to Hailey staying with family members. “I couldn’t let her stay longer than that and really, she didn’t want to anyway.”




http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/10/officials-teenager-likely-a-runaway/


And it was on NG too.......why lie about something so easily disproven????

She is unraveling slow but sure...the truth will prevail, just not soon enough for us & certainly nothing this beeotch was willing to do to keep her daughter safe & on this earth to live a full life, I am regretfully & heartbrokenly doubtful of a miraculous outcome.

Awww Billie, I'm just sooo glad you're not a person of interest... I sooo much love to hear you speak... Can't wait for your next interview...


so it can be torn to shreds you liar


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 08:34:57 PM
no disrespect, but please, this is not american idol

 No disrespect but I cant help but laugh !!!!!!!!!!

I gotta say though, it had to have twitched that beeotch that the song was dedicated to Hailey & her father solely.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 07, 2011, 08:35:04 PM
My personal opinion is that Billie decided to make a choice and she chose Shawn  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 07, 2011, 08:35:19 PM
Gotta hand it to the callers, they are asking some great questions.

Again, my daughter is not IN MY HOUSE??? Weird verbage IMO

I think it is very telling linguistically (No, I am not Seamus).  My daughter, my house -- the parallel structure indicates that both are on the same level in her mind.  In other words they are both possessions and therefore BJD does not have a personal attachment with either.  Both of them are things she uses and, only if necessary, takes care of. 

Yes, very interesting and perhaps very telling.  I don't think this is the first time she has referenced the two, Hailey and house, in the same way. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 08:37:12 PM
On tonights interview ... Billie dismisses Donna Byerley's claim regarding Hailey stay with her for a period of time.

Janet

++++++

Donna Byerley

Hailey Dunn: Unfolding a story of a missing teenager and her family
By Brian Bethel
Abilene Reporter-News
Posted January 8, 2011 at 11 p.m.


<snipped>

Donna Byerley met Hailey her through Byerley’s boyfriend, who had once dated a relative of Billie Jean Dunn. She described the girl’s home life as “volatile at times.”

Byerley characterized the 13-year-old as not getting along with her mother’s boyfriend, and Hailey herself as always wandering “here and there,” coming and going largely “as she pleases.”

But rather than a little girl lost, Byerley painted a picture of a compassionate person, whether it was taking care of a mutual friend of a family pet, a girl who remained “very much an individual,” with an honest style of communication whether talking about school, family or friends.

Dunn has stayed with Byerley and her boyfriend off and on, including the last two weeks of the previous school year, Byerley said.

“That was the school year that I think she started in Colorado City, went to Snyder a month or so, and then back to Colorado City,” she said.

“The last few weeks, perhaps month, she was living with her Dad because she doesn’t like the boyfriend,” Byerley said, referring to Adkins.

Her mother’s new relationship, and worries that it was preventing her parents from being together, served as a partial catalyst for Hailey’s difficulties with Adkins, Byerley said.

<snipped>

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/08/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 08:37:33 PM
no disrespect, but please, this is not american idol

 No disrespect but I cant help but laugh !!!!!!!!!!

I gotta say though, it had to have twitched that beeotch that the song was dedicated to Hailey & her father solely.

most definitely. maybe i'll even burn it and turn it into various genres.

dedicated to clint & hailey in country, ballad, rap, r&b, jazz, metal, rock

lmao


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 08:38:19 PM
Well, this is a rare occasion for me but Im taking a break with a cordial of Sambuca alongside my coffee....Ive got to calm the angst deep within, not to mention serve a late dinner I put off so I could listen to that infuriating beeotch!   Be back on the late side...nite nite to those I miss.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 08:38:19 PM
My personal opinion is that Billie decided to make a choice and she chose Shawn  ::MonkeyNoNo::

agree


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 08:38:29 PM
My personal opinion is that Billie decided to make a choice and she chose Shawn  ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 08:40:52 PM
Gotta hand it to the callers, they are asking some great questions.

Again, my daughter is not IN MY HOUSE??? Weird verbage IMO

I think it is very telling linguistically (No, I am not Seamus).  My daughter, my house -- the parallel structure indicates that both are on the same level in her mind.  In other words they are both possessions and therefore BJD does not have a personal attachment with either.  Both of them are things she uses and, only if necessary, takes care of. 

Yes, very interesting and perhaps very telling.  I don't think this is the first time she has referenced the two, Hailey and house, in the same way. 

OMG! You've hit on something there! I see your point and raise you another. Her house may need fixing... Hailey needed fixing... Maybe she let go of the one that would cost more to repair...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 08:41:01 PM
My personal opinion is that Billie decided to make a choice and she chose Shawn  ::MonkeyNoNo::

 yeppers.. its pathetic.  Shes pathetic.. I DO feel bad for the family of a missing child.. you know that ! I hope answers come and soon ! I wouldnt blame poor Hailey IF she did indeed run away.. shit.. I would too if I had to live with a mom like that and Shawn.
I cant say anything bad about Clint.. hes done his wrong and owns up to it and seems to help alot with all of this.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 08:42:59 PM
Well, this is a rare occasion for me but Im taking a break with a cordial of Sambuca alongside my coffee....Ive got to calm the angst deep within, not to mention serve a late dinner I put off so I could listen to that infuriating beeotch!   Be back on the late side...nite nite to those I miss.

Nite Capp!

Omg...nitecap...you're having a nitecap...I'm losing it. Think I'm gonna head to bed, too.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 08:44:00 PM
Gotta hand it to the callers, they are asking some great questions.

Again, my daughter is not IN MY HOUSE??? Weird verbage IMO

I think it is very telling linguistically (No, I am not Seamus).  My daughter, my house -- the parallel structure indicates that both are on the same level in her mind.  In other words they are both possessions and therefore BJD does not have a personal attachment with either.  Both of them are things she uses and, only if necessary, takes care of. 

Yes, very interesting and perhaps very telling.  I don't think this is the first time she has referenced the two, Hailey and house, in the same way. 

I agree, sadly I also think short of a miracle she will never have to make the choice again over Hailey and Shawn, and as much stated it when she said "it's not a problem anymore". I have never seen any emotion that reflected attachement even eek out of her accidentally, it's all me me me and Shawn ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 08:46:03 PM
Well, this is a rare occasion for me but Im taking a break with a cordial of Sambuca alongside my coffee....Ive got to calm the angst deep within, not to mention serve a late dinner I put off so I could listen to that infuriating beeotch!   Be back on the late side...nite nite to those I miss.

Nite Capp!

Omg...nitecap...you're having a nitecap...I'm losing it. Think I'm gonna head to bed, too.

  LOL ~!

Night everyone..! approx 8:45 here on the East Coast of Pa.. I havnt ate a dang thing today even thought I cooked!
Guess I will eat and hit the hay!

PRAYERS FOR HAILEY and KYRON and NATALEE and all of the poor kids missing. 

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on February 07, 2011, 08:47:16 PM
Gotta hand it to the callers, they are asking some great questions.

Again, my daughter is not IN MY HOUSE??? Weird verbage IMO

I think it is very telling linguistically (No, I am not Seamus).  My daughter, my house -- the parallel structure indicates that both are on the same level in her mind.  In other words they are both possessions and therefore BJD does not have a personal attachment with either.  Both of them are things she uses and, only if necessary, takes care of. 

Yes, very interesting and perhaps very telling.  I don't think this is the first time she has referenced the two, Hailey and house, in the same way. 

I agree, sadly I also think short of a miracle she will never have to make the choice again over Hailey and Shawn, and as much stated it when she said "it's not a problem anymore". I have never seen any emotion that reflected attachement even eek out of her accidentally, it's all me me me and Shawn ::MonkeyNoNo::

 Oh I so agree !


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 08:47:29 PM
The Couch?

Billie's brother provided a newer couch and ... the one which Hailey slept on went goes to the dump.

Hailey has been missing a couple of weeks and furniture is an issue!!

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 08:48:44 PM
Well, this is a rare occasion for me but Im taking a break with a cordial of Sambuca alongside my coffee....Ive got to calm the angst deep within, not to mention serve a late dinner I put off so I could listen to that infuriating beeotch!   Be back on the late side...nite nite to those I miss.

Nite Capp!

Omg...nitecap...you're having a nitecap...I'm losing it. Think I'm gonna head to bed, too.

  LOL ~!

Night everyone..! approx 8:45 here on the East Coast of Pa.. I havnt ate a dang thing today even thought I cooked!
Guess I will eat and hit the hay!

PRAYERS FOR HAILEY and KYRON and NATALEE and all of the poor kids missing. 

 ::MonkeyAngel::

Good Night Angie.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 07, 2011, 08:54:46 PM
Billie said she didn;t burn the "tatt". She said her son & his friend got hold of some pens & silver nitrate sticks that she brought homw from work and did it to themselves. She's ridiculous. She's in ALOT of trouble & she knows it.

Why would she bring home silver nitrate sticks?  I am no tattoo expert, but from what I have read silver nitrate is used to cauterize small wounds but can be used to make temporary tats.  That doesn't sound like something that would "burn" the skin in the manner that I imagined.

And what would the hospital think of an employee taking their supplies home for personal use.  If she was willing to take silver nitrate sticks, was she will to also take a few pills? 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: espresso lover on February 07, 2011, 08:56:48 PM
In any other missing child case that had other siblings in the home , how many of those cases has a child been "removed" from the home ???

Also, with David being removed why isn't Billie going out of her mind with both kids gone ? I haven't noticed anything about her missing her son in any of this either ?

I also think Billie is a snake in the grass who plays an excellent roll of playing "dumb" when in fact something goes alot deeper with her which I can't figure out how to articulate what I think....

O/T titch and capp you 2 should come with a warning...took me 2 hrs to clean up coffee off my keyboard and desk here...lol


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 07, 2011, 09:01:17 PM
Here we go again with the DARK BOY comment.. how freaking rude of her there too..

She's a racist on top of a low life, lying ho of a beeotch serving as a poor example for a mother.   Fillied with jealousy & twisted devotion.   Im outraged.

If you guys decide to make a roadtrip, let me know.  I am on the way.

 Same here.. she needs a freaking 2x4 rammed up her stupid ass.. and her studmuffins..  I felt sorry for her at first.. cant say I do anymore..  I feel worse for Clint.. He seems to give a shit more.  Hope Hailey is alive.. but.. I have to agree with Janets theory of what happened.  Cokesnorting Billie cant see any further then ShawnMichaelMyersstudmuffincumfmebaby ! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: you left out stripper  ::MonkeyJnBox::


 ::MonkeyJnBox::  I wish I were here neighbor.. Id bitch slap her up side her dumazz head.. Grrrrrrrrrrr

well, Capp and I are thinking about a road trip LOL ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 09:05:17 PM
The Couch?

Billie's brother provided a newer couch and ... the one which Hailey slept on went goes to the dump.

Hailey has been missing a couple of weeks and furniture is an issue!!

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet



Janet, you missed something, though... She said the couches were taken to the dump a couple of weeks ago. Ironic that investigators were searching various dumps/landfills, huh? Hmmm...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Samarie on February 07, 2011, 09:09:41 PM
Billie said she didn;t burn the "tatt". She said her son & his friend got hold of some pens & silver nitrate sticks that she brought homw from work and did it to themselves. She's ridiculous. She's in ALOT of trouble & she knows it.

Why would she bring home silver nitrate sticks?  I am no tattoo expert, but from what I have read silver nitrate is used to cauterize small wounds but can be used to make temporary tats.  That doesn't sound like something that would "burn" the skin in the manner that I imagined.

And what would the hospital think of an employee taking their supplies home for personal use.  If she was willing to take silver nitrate sticks, was she will to also take a few pills? 

I've used silver nitrate sticks on occasion because I have a genetic blood disorder that affects clotting. It's been a while since I've used them, but the the sticks are easily purchased in most drug stores without a script, at least they were at one time. It also comes in a powder form for dog groomers, to stop bleeding when nails are clipped to short. I'm wondering if these "tats" were more likely a "carving" that resulted in a scar, rather than an acid type burn and that's why the boys (or Billie, depending on which version you believe) used the silver nitrate sticks, to stem/stop the bleeding. Could be a big misunderstanding due to Billie's usage of terminology....just a thought


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Curly on February 07, 2011, 09:21:52 PM
Well, all i can add is that Billie's definitely my choice for jack-hole of the week.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Samarie on February 07, 2011, 09:23:12 PM
Oops...I'm wrong! There are "silver nitrate sticks" and silver nitrate "in" syptic sticks, which I've used. According to wikipedia, it looks like it's possible to "burn" a tattoo using the siver nitrate sticks, which can "stain" and/or "burn" the skin. Either way it's nasty....

A caustic pencil is a short stick of medication usually containing silver nitrate, used to cauterize skin, for instance for the removal of warts, or moles. They are not used as a treatment for minor cuts. A frequent source of confusion appears to be the difference between styptic and caustic pencils.

The silver nitrate in "caustic pencils" is in a solid form at the tip of a wooden stick, much like a long matchstick. When the silver nitrate is applied to a wound or lesion, it dissolves and can accidentally be spread to other undesirable locations where it can cause skin staining and tissue burns. Should this happen, it should be irrigated with copious amounts of water. It must be used in careful conditions and those using it should wear eye protection should it be splattered from the nose or tracheostomy stoma of a breathing patient.

Silver nitrate sticks are often used for hemostasis in medical situations where patients are not under general anesthesia, where electrocautery would be painful and inconvenient.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caustic_pencil


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 07, 2011, 09:24:43 PM
Part of the timeline that has been troubling me.  Hailey is last seen by her mother on morning of Monday, December 27th.  The same day, SA goes to work and decides to join the ranks of the unemployed. 

A week later, Monday, January 3rd,  BJD tells NG that SA got home from work on 12/27 at 3:00 and had the subsequent conversation with Hailey regarding the "sleepover" at Mary Beth's.  The next night, January 4th, on NG, BJD is confronted by Grace regarding SA's true activities on 12/27:  leaving the job at 6:30 am, going to his grandmother's in Dunn, and then going to his mother's house in Big Spring. 

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/04/ng.01.html (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/04/ng.01.html)

I realize that things were in turmoil after it was discovered that Hailey was missing but how could SA have gone a full week without telling BJD that he was no longer employed.  Why didn't it come up with other members of his family (mother or uncle) who also knew he was no longer working.  Didn't his employer even check in on them during this time if SA was such a good, if former, employer? 

There is something not right about this.  SA probably got paid weekly and finances were already tight.  Not having a job would have been an additional burden on the household, especially with BJD not working either. 

Just seems really weird to me.  How do you forget to tell someone that you "live" with for an entire week that you are no longer employed?   I believe that this is another attempt to lie or cover up what was really going on. 
::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 09:27:17 PM
Billie said she didn;t burn the "tatt". She said her son & his friend got hold of some pens & silver nitrate sticks that she brought homw from work and did it to themselves. She's ridiculous. She's in ALOT of trouble & she knows it.

Why would she bring home silver nitrate sticks?  I am no tattoo expert, but from what I have read silver nitrate is used to cauterize small wounds but can be used to make temporary tats.  That doesn't sound like something that would "burn" the skin in the manner that I imagined.

And what would the hospital think of an employee taking their supplies home for personal use.  If she was willing to take silver nitrate sticks, was she will to also take a few pills? 

I've used silver nitrate sticks on occasion because I have a genetic blood disorder that affects clotting. It's been a while since I've used them, but the the sticks are easily purchased in most drug stores without a script, at least they were at one time. It also comes in a powder form for dog groomers, to stop bleeding when nails are clipped to short. I'm wondering if these "tats" were more likely a "carving" that resulted in a scar, rather than an acid type burn and that's why the boys (or Billie, depending on which version you believe) used the silver nitrate sticks, to stem/stop the bleeding. Could be a big misunderstanding due to Billie's usage of terminology....just a thought

Yes, you can purchase them over the counter, but it didn't use to be that way years ago. When I think of a silver nitrate stick being used for tattooing a homemade job done by kids, I'm leaning towards them inking it on, the maybe cutting over the trace, then silver nitrate over the outline...sorta makes sense.

No idea, just a guess. The silver nitrate mixed with blood could leave a pencil lead effect.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 07, 2011, 09:35:39 PM
Here we go again with the DARK BOY comment.. how freaking rude of her there too..

She's a racist on top of a low life, lying ho of a beeotch serving as a poor example for a mother.   Fillied with jealousy & twisted devotion.   Im outraged.

Sorry, I fell into your box.  Brain is fried and saying time to shut down.  Later, Monks.  Prayers for all those who are missing and for the ones who love them. 

If you guys decide to make a roadtrip, let me know.  I am on the way.

 Same here.. she needs a freaking 2x4 rammed up her stupid ass.. and her studmuffins..  I felt sorry for her at first.. cant say I do anymore..  I feel worse for Clint.. He seems to give a shit more.  Hope Hailey is alive.. but.. I have to agree with Janets theory of what happened.  Cokesnorting Billie cant see any further then ShawnMichaelMyersstudmuffincumfmebaby ! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: you left out stripper  ::MonkeyJnBox::


 ::MonkeyJnBox::  I wish I were here neighbor.. Id bitch slap her up side her dumazz head.. Grrrrrrrrrrr

well, Capp and I are thinking about a road trip LOL ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 09:35:45 PM
Billie said she didn;t burn the "tatt". She said her son & his friend got hold of some pens & silver nitrate sticks that she brought homw from work and did it to themselves. She's ridiculous. She's in ALOT of trouble & she knows it.

Why would she bring home silver nitrate sticks?  I am no tattoo expert, but from what I have read silver nitrate is used to cauterize small wounds but can be used to make temporary tats.  That doesn't sound like something that would "burn" the skin in the manner that I imagined.

And what would the hospital think of an employee taking their supplies home for personal use.  If she was willing to take silver nitrate sticks, was she will to also take a few pills? 

I've used silver nitrate sticks on occasion because I have a genetic blood disorder that affects clotting. It's been a while since I've used them, but the the sticks are easily purchased in most drug stores without a script, at least they were at one time. It also comes in a powder form for dog groomers, to stop bleeding when nails are clipped to short. I'm wondering if these "tats" were more likely a "carving" that resulted in a scar, rather than an acid type burn and that's why the boys (or Billie, depending on which version you believe) used the silver nitrate sticks, to stem/stop the bleeding. Could be a big misunderstanding due to Billie's usage of terminology....just a thought

Yes, you can purchase them over the counter, but it didn't use to be that way years ago. When I think of a silver nitrate stick being used for tattooing a homemade job done by kids, I'm leaning towards them inking it on, the maybe cutting over the trace, then silver nitrate over the outline...sorta makes sense.

No idea, just a guess. The silver nitrate mixed with blood could leave a pencil lead effect.

Maybe the end result would be the burnt in tatt? I don;t see it as going through several layers of skin, though. So I'm wondering if this is something that could end up peeling away over time? Does anyone know? IMO, if a silver nitrate stick was used in this method, sure it would burn if held for a certain period of time, but wouldn't it have to be rubbed in the same spot for a prolonged period of time to get the desired depth? Why would somebody try this method? If it was just a quick job, then it could possibly be gone after a couple of weeks once the skin shed it...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 09:35:53 PM
Part of the timeline that has been troubling me.  Hailey is last seen by her mother on morning of Monday, December 27th.  The same day, SA goes to work and decides to join the ranks of the unemployed. 

A week later, Monday, January 3rd,  BJD tells NG that SA got home from work on 12/27 at 3:00 and had the subsequent conversation with Hailey regarding the "sleepover" at Mary Beth's.  The next night, January 4th, on NG, BJD is confronted by Grace regarding SA's true activities on 12/27:  leaving the job at 6:30 am, going to his grandmother's in Dunn, and then going to his mother's house in Big Spring. 

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/04/ng.01.html (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/04/ng.01.html)

I realize that things were in turmoil after it was discovered that Hailey was missing but how could SA have gone a full week without telling BJD that he was no longer employed.  Why didn't it come up with other members of his family (mother or uncle) who also knew he was no longer working.  Didn't his employer even check in on them during this time if SA was such a good, if former, employer? 

There is something not right about this.  SA probably got paid weekly and finances were already tight.  Not having a job would have been an additional burden on the household, especially with BJD not working either. 

Just seems really weird to me.  How do you forget to tell someone that you "live" with for an entire week that you are no longer employed?   I believe that this is another attempt to lie or cover up what was really going on. 
::MonkeyConfused::

That is a HUGE point I have brought up over and over and over, she thought he was at work for 24 hours from Tuesday when she found out she "left" cough cough to Wednesday when she learned the truth, so why lie almost a week later? I aked CZ this over and over and she kept repeating nonsense about 1pm vs 3pm and finally I told her she misunderstood my question, then answered that's what she thought for so long? WTF......that is another d@mn lie and make ZERO sense like everything else ::MonkeyMad::

She KNEW that from December the 29th!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 07, 2011, 09:37:47 PM
Here we go again with the DARK BOY comment.. how freaking rude of her there too..

She's a racist on top of a low life, lying ho of a beeotch serving as a poor example for a mother.   Fillied with jealousy & twisted devotion.   Im outraged.

Sorry, I fell into your box.  Brain is fried and saying time to shut down.  Later, Monks.  Prayers for all those who are missing and for the ones who love them. 

If you guys decide to make a roadtrip, let me know.  I am on the way.

 Same here.. she needs a freaking 2x4 rammed up her stupid ass.. and her studmuffins..  I felt sorry for her at first.. cant say I do anymore..  I feel worse for Clint.. He seems to give a shit more.  Hope Hailey is alive.. but.. I have to agree with Janets theory of what happened.  Cokesnorting Billie cant see any further then ShawnMichaelMyersstudmuffincumfmebaby ! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: you left out stripper  ::MonkeyJnBox::


 ::MonkeyJnBox::  I wish I were here neighbor.. Id bitch slap her up side her dumazz head.. Grrrrrrrrrrr

well, Capp and I are thinking about a road trip LOL ::monkeywine2::

Holy smoke, I did it again :gaah:


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 09:47:30 PM
 ::MonkeyAngel:: Dont worry flutter, I saw it and if we go we will stop by and pick you up ::MonkeyBike::

I get in other's quote boxes and have typos all the time, and now when I read others doing the same I read it as it was meant to be not how it came out, IOW I don't even notice the typos or the quote box thingys


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 07, 2011, 09:50:24 PM
Have to get to sleep. Can't keep my eyes open anymore.

Goodnight everyone.

Hope Hailey is found pronto!

XOX!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 09:55:08 PM
 ::MonkeyShocked::

Rumor Alert~

Rumor has it LE is at Shawn's house (don't know if it's gma or his mothers) and he is not a suspect due to lack of evidence??????


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 09:55:40 PM
Have to get to sleep. Can't keep my eyes open anymore.

Goodnight everyone.

Hope Hailey is found pronto!

XOX!

Night Titch~sleep well ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 09:59:39 PM
Ok, now the exact opposite Rumor~

BringThem Home
UPDATE***** The police have just surrounded Shawn Adkins Mothers home. They have police at the windows, doors, and out back. SA is a suspect in the Hailey's case


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2011, 10:31:32 PM
Have to get to sleep. Can't keep my eyes open anymore.

Goodnight everyone.

Hope Hailey is found pronto!

XOX!

Good Night Titch.

I was going to call it a night as far as the forum was concerned and now this "Rumor Alert"!

I may come back after the each round of 500 Rummy and check.

Janet
7:30 PM PT


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cadillac on February 07, 2011, 10:33:32 PM
Ok, now the exact opposite Rumor~

BringThem Home
UPDATE***** The police have just surrounded Shawn Adkins Mothers home. They have police at the windows, doors, and out back. SA is a suspect in the Hailey's case

Oh wow - should I go to bed or is this for real?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cookie on February 07, 2011, 10:50:58 PM
2 things..first of all..how would Billie know that Shawn was at his mother's house all day the day that Hailey went missing? His mother went to work so why would he hang out at his mom's house all day when he could go home?<<to Billie's house...Billie wouldn't have known, she didn't even know that he had walked out of his job!

secondly, it really bothers me that Hailey was only 13 yrs old and was living here  and there..sometimes with mom, sometimes with dad, sometimes with the lady for 2 wks or so...Who allows a 13 yr old child to go from home to home to live? no stability there.. If Shawn wasn't living with her, would she have allowed the kids to wander all over? would they have wanted to if Shawn wasn't there?
 Billie...you are clueless!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 10:59:44 PM
Ok, now the exact opposite Rumor~

BringThem Home
UPDATE***** The police have just surrounded Shawn Adkins Mothers home. They have police at the windows, doors, and out back. SA is a suspect in the Hailey's case

Oh wow - should I go to bed or is this for real?











LOL~that is what I am trying to determine myself, the show from tonight, well I should say the host has it on her FB page and allegedly someone drove by the house and LE was there-the house in Dunn that is?


.Bee Herz
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http://www.facebook.com/beeherzpsychicmedium?sk=wall


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 11:01:39 PM
2 things..first of all..how would Billie know that Shawn was at his mother's house all day the day that Hailey went missing? His mother went to work so why would he hang out at his mom's house all day when he could go home?<<to Billie's house...Billie wouldn't have known, she didn't even know that he had walked out of his job!

secondly, it really bothers me that Hailey was only 13 yrs old and was living here  and there..sometimes with mom, sometimes with dad, sometimes with the lady for 2 wks or so...Who allows a 13 yr old child to go from home to home to live? no stability there.. If Shawn wasn't living with her, would she have allowed the kids to wander all over? would they have wanted to if Shawn wasn't there?
 Billie...you are clueless!

Except she admitted to learning about his job/quitting on the 29th which was just a day after she reported her missing........she can't keep a story straight to save her life..

She was womb space all along and obviously had some support if she didn't work for the first 4 yrs of their marriage ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Kat_Gram on February 07, 2011, 11:06:04 PM
Clint's phone was broken. DD was over there with the cell. She wanted Clint to call LE on her cell and tell LE that Billie was coming to make a missing persons report.
This would put the cell in Clints hands and what was the bs plan, that Hailey's phone was with Clint ? Therefore so had Hailey been ?
She had a land line at her work.
..
She hadn't checked anywhere herself, she got David to do it.
How many minutes were lost here ? Twenty. ? Why did she want Clint to make a 911 call tied to her cell ?
I don't know why the woman is going on about it.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 11:06:20 PM
 ::MonkeyShocked::

OMG~they have him on KTAB from earlier today , he admits threatening Billie....like no biggie??


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: my2cents on February 07, 2011, 11:15:11 PM
Just got finished listening to the radio show came on to find the rumor alert and then that huge picture of Shawn ...someone pass the tequila plzzz !


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: my2cents on February 07, 2011, 11:16:17 PM
We need the link to the Colorado City police scanner ! I wonder if they are on a private channel ?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: my2cents on February 07, 2011, 11:17:12 PM
Well if they are at his moms house I guess we need the Big Spring scanner ?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 11:19:33 PM
Well, this is a rare occasion for me but Im taking a break with a cordial of Sambuca alongside my coffee....Ive got to calm the angst deep within, not to mention serve a late dinner I put off so I could listen to that infuriating beeotch!   Be back on the late side...nite nite to those I miss.

Nite Capp!

Omg...nitecap...you're having a nitecap...I'm losing it. Think I'm gonna head to bed, too.

As promised, Im back on the late side & this ^ had me (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/mslaitte/HUMOR/LMAOjewel.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 11:20:21 PM
Well if they are at his moms house I guess we need the Big Spring scanner ?

I am hearing it's at Gma's house not his mother's home? Still only on FB though, and sorry about the huge pic, I have about 12 windows open and was trying to get a pic of him smirking when he stated "I only threatened Billie" THUD.........


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 11:25:08 PM
::MonkeyShocked::

OMG~they have him on KTAB from earlier today , he admits threatening Billie....like no biggie??

NO BIGGIE?   This is what I came back to, this macab SOB saying threatening people's lives are NO BIGGIE?   Staring down a child & calling her promiscuous is no biggie Shawn?  Really.....really?   

I hope when they pick you up the first thing they say:  You are charged with murder, no biggie!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Kat_Gram on February 07, 2011, 11:25:25 PM
When Billie said Shawn said, lol in her printed timeline for release, it was the first time that he said he went to G'Ma's house in Dunn. ( via Billie )
Maybe they got a search warrant based on that. Hope G'ma has some adult depends in the house. And a bottle of a friend called Jack.   


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: my2cents on February 07, 2011, 11:25:33 PM
I found this one for Big Spring ...

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=2636

g mas is in dunn so that would be the Colorado City Scanner let me go back and look again


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 11:31:21 PM
::MonkeyShocked::

OMG~they have him on KTAB from earlier today , he admits threatening Billie....like no biggie??

NO BIGGIE?   This is what I came back to, this macab SOB saying threatening people's lives are NO BIGGIE?   Staring down a child & calling her promiscuous is no biggie Shawn?  Really.....really?   

I hope when they pick you up the first thing they say:  You are charged with murder, no biggie!

I know, I couldnt believe it when I watched it, tomorrow it will have the raw version ......Billie is just a big a POS for defending that scumbag, but she made her choice years ago....no biggie to her or Shawn it appeard


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 11:32:17 PM
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=54   Live Colorado police feed
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=54



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 11:33:03 PM
When Billie said Shawn said, lol in her printed timeline for release, it was the first time that he said he went to G'Ma's house in Dunn. ( via Billie )
Maybe they got a search warrant based on that. Hope G'ma has some adult depends in the house. And a bottle of a friend called Jack.   

Yes it was IIRC~it's like her friend at WS and VH were lurking and asking question, reading all the site and when the affadavits came out and confirmed holes in the story they sat down to try and plug them. I think she is goint to need A LOT of Jack ASAP! Or I pray so.......


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 11:35:09 PM
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=54   Live Colorado Springs police feed
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=54




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: my2cents on February 07, 2011, 11:36:40 PM
mitchell county

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=771


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 07, 2011, 11:38:17 PM
Are we expecting something to happen in the case?  Is that why the links to the police scanner?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 11:39:38 PM
Are we expecting something to happen in the case?  Is that why the links to the police scanner?

Rumor posted on twitter that LE was at Shawn's mother's house...nothing confirmed


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 11:42:38 PM
Are we expecting something to happen in the case?  Is that why the links to the police scanner?

Rumor posted on twitter that LE was at Shawn's mother's house...nothing confirmed

Last I read was they are now gone and there is a rumor about Shawn's half brother of cousin being the mystery man that Billie called CPS on? Again- 100% rumor....LE was there and is gone now. Now I need a stiff drink, night all ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 11:43:38 PM
Are we expecting something to happen in the case?  Is that why the links to the police scanner?

Rumor posted on facebook that LE was at Shawn's mother's house...nothing confirmed   

Adding link to origin http://www.facebook.com/beeherzpsychicmedium?sk=wall
(where Billie's interview tonight was & Clint's last week)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: my2cents on February 07, 2011, 11:44:26 PM
wonder what that was all about? maybe a wellness check ?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 07, 2011, 11:47:37 PM
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/colorado-city-tx/T1FA1VMHCUGFML4NE/p105 (http://www.topix.com/forum/city/colorado-city-tx/T1FA1VMHCUGFML4NE/p105)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5099/5426738139_d08d1dbbf9_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 07, 2011, 11:49:06 PM
Oh, one more thing before I hit the sack. Billie stated she didnt call Shawn when she learned about Hailey disappearing??? Whatever....dumbarsebeeotch


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 11:51:52 PM
EXCLUSIVE: Hailey Suspect Breaks His Silence

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339526

Dunn, TX -   A month and half into the investigation of the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, the only named suspect in the case is breaking his silence.
SNIPED
"I just felt like it was a witch hunt at the time and they were just trying to pin it on somebody which was me. I didn't want that happening so I just stopped talking to them," he said.

sniped
"I never made any threats toward Hailey. It was just toward Billie," said Adkins.

More at link


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: my2cents on February 07, 2011, 11:51:54 PM
night all...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 11:53:15 PM
night all...

Nite mytwocents


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 07, 2011, 11:55:48 PM
Oh, one more thing before I hit the sack. Billie stated she didnt call Shawn when she learned about Hailey disappearing??? Whatever....dumbarsebeeotch

That seems so purposeful, as if to say there is no reason to inquire from Shawn where he was or what he was doing, like a half concern...its a cover statement IMHO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 08, 2011, 12:08:29 AM
Oh, one more thing before I hit the sack. Billie stated she didnt call Shawn when she learned about Hailey disappearing??? Whatever....dumbarsebeeotch

That seems so purposeful, as if to say there is no reason to inquire from Shawn where he was or what he was doing, like a half concern...its a cover statement IMHO

Agree, so not only was she distancing herself but also Shawn.....FTLOG is there no bottom for her and pls correct me if I am wrong, but didn't she state she is NOW in love with Shawn but wasn't before? I swear I can't listen to it again, not without a valium IV


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on February 08, 2011, 12:19:12 AM
JUST POSTED !!!

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339526


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 08, 2011, 12:22:28 AM
 ::MonkeyMad:: Ok, I was wrong about tonight, they (BD and SA ) are not living together due to all "this mess"...........this mess is a innocent child, your daughter that disappeared under circumstances that tend to implicate Shawn in foul plan and IMO BJD too, so she definitely has a way with words.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 12:24:40 AM
Oh, one more thing before I hit the sack. Billie stated she didnt call Shawn when she learned about Hailey disappearing??? Whatever....dumbarsebeeotch

That seems so purposeful, as if to say there is no reason to inquire from Shawn where he was or what he was doing, like a half concern...its a cover statement IMHO

Agree, so not only was she distancing herself but also Shawn.....FTLOG is there no bottom for her and pls correct me if I am wrong, but didn't she state she is NOW in love with Shawn but wasn't before? I swear I can't listen to it again, not without a valium IV

I remember she was asked if she loved Shawn & she said yes.  Tomorrow I am going to listen again without the immediate reaction driving my thoughts.  I was going to revisit it tonight but Im still a bit too steamed to do so.   The wording Billie used when asked about why she didnt search & how she felt "that's good for me" is what was really glaring to me.   As if to say, so long as they dont find anything that's good for me (and b/f).   She may have not realized how she put that but often when people are shielding the truth, it has a way of coming out anyways....much like reactive facial expressions cannot be concealed easily.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 12:25:50 AM
::MonkeyMad:: Ok, I was wrong about tonight, they (BD and SA ) are not living together due to all "this mess"...........this mess is a innocent child, your daughter that disappeared under circumstances that tend to implicate Shawn in foul plan and IMO BJD too, so she definitely has a way with words.

Yea that too, she's got some nerve.   I also think that she is lying, he may not be living there but I think he has been spending time with her-no doubt in my mind.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 08, 2011, 12:33:23 AM
::MonkeyMad:: Ok, I was wrong about tonight, they (BD and SA ) are not living together due to all "this mess"...........this mess is a innocent child, your daughter that disappeared under circumstances that tend to implicate Shawn in foul plan and IMO BJD too, so she definitely has a way with words.

Yea that too, she's got some nerve.   I also think that she is lying, he may not be living there but I think he has been spending time with her-no doubt in my mind.

Can you imagine how this "mess" interfered with her love life and cramped her style and you are right it is a good day for her and honeybuns when Hailey is still missing, not there is not a problem anymore. Like I said, she is a @#%%$&^%&^ and a manipulative wench. Poor Hailey NEVER EVER had a chance with her as a "mother".



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 12:42:48 AM
The video is up for the first part of two - Shawn Adkins at the same article posted earlier:

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339526

Annoyingly, they have not focused in on him every time he has answered a question...I wanted to study his every word & facial expressions.   Of course, he's wearing sunglasses & Im not convinced its due to sunlight..hiding lying eyes.

He admits that he lied to Billie, stating he told police he quit his job & he told her he quit...once a liar, always a liar.  He's also falling over his own words quite a few times.  It doesnt make sense when you hear Billie state recently in her presser that she knew he wanted to quit...ya feel me?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 12:44:46 AM
The video is up for the first part of two - Shawn Adkins at the same article posted earlier:

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339526

Annoyingly, they have not focused in on him every time he has answered a question...I wanted to study his every word & facial expressions.   Of course, he's wearing sunglasses & Im not convinced its due to sunlight..hiding lying eyes.

He admits that he lied to Billie, stating he told police he quit his job & he told her he was fired...once a liar, always a liar.  He's also falling over his own words quite a few times.  It doesnt make sense when you hear Billie state recently in her presser that she knew he wanted to quit...ya feel me?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 08, 2011, 12:59:02 AM
I just wanted to send Janet hugs.  :)  /hug hug hug hug hug


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: melisb on February 08, 2011, 01:09:25 AM
IM lemmee know when the MonkeyPosse is ridin' out!  I'll meet you at I-10 and 231.  I'm packin a bat and Cuervo Gold for the celebration after we kick that no good, rotten, two faced, sorryazz4amotha's arse all over her town!  That's after we tell her all the lies we know she's telling!  All this is hytpothetical, IMO, MOO!  In all honesty...I'd ride out in a hot minute just for this.  Reckon she'll get a TRO on me over here in Florida cuz I skeered her?  SA didn't but I bet she would take action against me!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on February 08, 2011, 01:14:46 AM
Anybody know the word on the street regarding Shawn and LE tonight ?

FACT OR FICTION ???

I hope to go to bed soon ! ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 01:19:11 AM
IM lemmee know when the MonkeyPosse is ridin' out!  I'll meet you at I-10 and 231.  I'm packin a bat and Cuervo Gold for the celebration after we kick that no good, rotten, two faced, sorryazz4amotha's arse all over her town!  That's after we tell her all the lies we know she's telling!  All this is hytpothetical, IMO, MOO!  In all honesty...I'd ride out in a hot minute just for this.  Reckon she'll get a TRO on me over here in Florida cuz I skeered her?  SA didn't but I bet she would take action against me!

In a heartbeat...how this mother justifies her twisted mind to herself is beyond a reasonable mind's comprehension.   As this monkey has often coined from a popular song...this snit is bananas B A N A N A S

Hubbies last comment to me about going to search & visiting Billie Jean Dunn-Dumm was I'd have to sell my jewelry collection if I need bail...ok, so he got me that is causing me to hesitate LOL   There was a day I would have already been on the road, but in all seriousness I've had recent health issues that puts a monkey wrench in what my mind wants to do versus what the body says "O hell to the no" to.   Life at times is a B!tch!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 01:22:46 AM
Anybody know the word on the street regarding Shawn and LE tonight ?

FACT OR FICTION ???

I hope to go to bed soon ! ::HelloKitty::

No confirmation yet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 01:26:22 AM
BILLIE...talking crap about this other person threatened her and Hailey.   "He had gotten lost doing drugs, he's crazy now."    This person reportedy threatened to hit her and Hailey in the head with a hammer after Billie threatened to call CPS on him.   Its not Clint, another POI according to investigators.   Not family, not someone she dated.   BULL, BULL and MORE BULL

"Im too afraid of what I could find, every day they dont find for me, its good for me"   Really Billie, really?   I bet its good for you & Shawn...no body, no case, think again.   Billie you didnt organize anything MK volunteered so stop coming off like you are doing ANYTHING cuz you are not.


Why would Billie threaten call CPS and not LE IF this perp was not a person that had direct daily contact with Hailey?  This is a threat of a violent act, this should have been reported to LE not CPS, unless this person lived in the home with Hailey or was a possible babysitter.  Why would she say that unless maybe she was going to call CPS on him due to children living in his custodial care and then he made the threat.  It does sound like she threatened to call CPS and then he made the threat on Billie and Hailey ... but WHY was Billie going to call CPS and why did the threat not include David? 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 01:28:36 AM
Could this mystery man be Davids real father?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 08, 2011, 01:30:28 AM
Could this mystery man be Davids real father?

Hi Invision - I was wondering that myself.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 01:34:56 AM
Could this mystery man be Davids real father?

Hi Invision - I was wondering that myself.

Hey there Klaas ... that would make sense if she was going to call CPS on someone ... especially someone that "gotten lost doing drugs" and is "crazy now".  Maybe she was going to go for child support or full custody and he wasn't going to comply so she told him she would call CPS and have his custodial rights of David taken away due to his drug usage.  Then maybe he threatened her and the child he didn't father.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: melisb on February 08, 2011, 01:35:13 AM
IM lemmee know when the MonkeyPosse is ridin' out!  I'll meet you at I-10 and 231.  I'm packin a bat and Cuervo Gold for the celebration after we kick that no good, rotten, two faced, sorryazz4amotha's arse all over her town!  That's after we tell her all the lies we know she's telling!  All this is hytpothetical, IMO, MOO!  In all honesty...I'd ride out in a hot minute just for this.  Reckon she'll get a TRO on me over here in Florida cuz I skeered her?  SA didn't but I bet she would take action against me!

In a heartbeat...how this mother justifies her twisted mind to herself is beyond a reasonable mind's comprehension.   As this monkey has often coined from a popular song...this snit is bananas B A N A N A S

Hubbies last comment to me about going to search & visiting Billie Jean Dunn-Dumm was I'd have to sell my jewelry collection if I need bail...ok, so he got me that is causing me to hesitate LOL   There was a day I would have already been on the road, but in all seriousness I've had recent health issues that puts a monkey wrench in what my mind wants to do versus what the body says "O hell to the no" to.   Life at times is a B!tch!

Oh Cappy, I'm all hot air because there isn't a day I would actually put myself in a position that may result in my son and hubby losing me!  No sir, not from stupidity and BD ain't worth it!  I want to don't get me wrong!  Anytime before I had my baby and I would've been ridin shotgun or drivin!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: melisb on February 08, 2011, 01:44:25 AM
One more thing...in my neck of the woods calling social services on people especially for made up reasons, just to cause trouble can make bad things happen to you.  She could very well be the catalyst to what happened to Hailey.  Who knows, she could have ripped someone's family apart with her lies.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 01:46:35 AM
I really wish the released info in the affidavits would have given us an inkling as to the REAL reason David was removed from Billie's custody and care.  We all kow that CPS does not remove siblings from the homes of missing children.  Billie may not know that though, and that may be what they have told her.  But why?  What does David know?  Could he have possibly asked to be removed?  I bet that was an interesting interview between him and LE.  Out of the mouths of "babes"...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 01:50:11 AM
One more thing...in my neck of the woods calling social services on people especially for made up reasons, just to cause trouble can make bad things happen to you.  She could very well be the catalyst to what happened to Hailey.  Who knows, she could have ripped someone's family apart with her lies.


Personally I would think she was/is too self absorbed to involve her self in any one else's life.  Heck she couldn't even be bothered to check up on her own kid to make sure she was spending the night at a friends house.... but who knows ... she was quick to throw Mary Beth and her mom under the bus.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: 4 Donks on February 08, 2011, 01:50:15 AM
Could this mystery man be Davids real father?

Hi Invision - I was wondering that myself.

Hey there Klaas ... that would make sense if she was going to call CPS on someone ... especially someone that "gotten lost doing drugs" and is "crazy now".  Maybe she was going to go for child support or full custody and he wasn't going to comply so she told him she would call CPS and have his custodial rights of David taken away due to his drug usage.  Then maybe he threatened her and the child he didn't father.
How long has DD used the name Dunn...CD said he signed paperwork that BD gave him and he thought he had adopted DD. He said that she even "fooled" the school district. I don't think that the bio dad was paying child support or was around if everyone assumed an adoption had taken place......very confusing.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 01:56:23 AM
Good question 4 Donks ... I don't know ... but maybe Davids bio dad refused to sign over parental rights for Clint to legally adopt and Billie said she would report him to CPS for his drug usage.  Maybe he got mad and threatened to hurt Billie and Clints child in retaliation.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: 4 Donks on February 08, 2011, 02:03:03 AM
Good question 4 Donks ... I don't know ... but maybe Davids bio dad refused to sign over parental rights for Clint to legally adopt and Billie said she would report him to CPS for his drug usage.  Maybe he got mad and threatened to hurt Billie and Clints child in retaliation.
I just wish we had an accurate time line of events. Have no idea when this supposed adoption took place. I had the impression that he had the name Dunn for a number of years but who knows.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: texasmom on February 08, 2011, 02:07:55 AM
Could this mystery man be Davids real father?

Hi Invision - I was wondering that myself.

Hey there Klaas ... that would make sense if she was going to call CPS on someone ... especially someone that "gotten lost doing drugs" and is "crazy now".  Maybe she was going to go for child support or full custody and he wasn't going to comply so she told him she would call CPS and have his custodial rights of David taken away due to his drug usage.  Then maybe he threatened her and the child he didn't father.

Do we know anything about BJD's relationship with David's father?  I may have missed any information about that, but I would think they at least dated?

From tonight's show, I didn't type out all of the interviewer comments; just the questions.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/08/exclusive-live--billie-dunn-speaks-1

From approximately 37:00 in the show...

Question:  Is there a person that has threatened you and Hailey at all?

BJD:  Um, I'm not supposed to name anybody but investigators asked me if I knew this person had threatened me and Hailey.  I told them no I hadn't heard anything about it until just now when investigators were just now telling me.

(BJD is asked to please elablorate on this person)

BJD:  Um, I don't know what all I can say...I would love to.  Investigators just asked me if I knew this person had threatened mine and Hailey's life, I told them no I had no idea.  Um, it's somebody that's kind of close to the family, he had gotten lost doing drugs...the kids told me this is not the same person we knew before; he's crazy now.  And he told somebody he would like to smack me and Hailey in the head with a hammer for calling CPS on him.  We called CPS on him, something that Hailey told me.

Question: Was that Shawn?

BJD:  No, it wasn't.

Question:  Is this person in your family?

BJD: No.

Question:  Is this someone you dated?

BJD: No.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: texasmom on February 08, 2011, 02:11:04 AM
Could this mystery man be Davids real father?

Hi Invision - I was wondering that myself.

Hey there Klaas ... that would make sense if she was going to call CPS on someone ... especially someone that "gotten lost doing drugs" and is "crazy now".  Maybe she was going to go for child support or full custody and he wasn't going to comply so she told him she would call CPS and have his custodial rights of David taken away due to his drug usage.  Then maybe he threatened her and the child he didn't father.

Do we know anything about BJD's relationship with David's father?  I may have missed any information about that, but I would think they at least dated?

From tonight's show, I didn't type out all of the interviewer comments; just the questions.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/08/exclusive-live--billie-dunn-speaks-1

From approximately 37:00 in the show...

Question:  Is there a person that has threatened you and Hailey at all?

BJD:  Um, I'm not supposed to name anybody but investigators asked me if I knew this person had threatened me and Hailey.  I told them no I hadn't heard anything about it until just now when investigators were just now telling me.

(BJD is asked to please elablorate elaborate on this person)

BJD:  Um, I don't know what all I can say...I would love to.  Investigators just asked me if I knew this person had threatened mine and Hailey's life, I told them no I had no idea.  Um, it's somebody that's kind of close to the family, he had gotten lost doing drugs...the kids told me this is not the same person we knew before; he's crazy now.  And he told somebody he would like to smack me and Hailey in the head with a hammer for calling CPS on him.  We called CPS on him, something that Hailey told me.

Question: Was that Shawn?

BJD:  No, it wasn't.

Question:  Is this person in your family?

BJD: No.

Question:  Is this someone you dated?

BJD: No.



fixed typo  :oops:


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: texasmom on February 08, 2011, 02:15:10 AM
Since it was something that Hailey told BJD that prompted the call to CPS, I'm wondering if another child, maybe that person's child confided something to Hailey...or maybe she just heard something at school from other kids?
 ::MonkeyQuestion::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 08, 2011, 02:15:42 AM
So I'm halfway through listening to the BD interview and all I have to say is this:  BARF!!

She quite obviously is with SA although she can't be "WITH" him because of the inconvenience of all this silly little mess.  (Grumble) and that makes it quite clear where her priorities are.

I'm sure the second half of the interview will disgust me just as much as the first half, and you ladies have REALLY cracked me up tonight with your commentary.  Thank you for being sanely insane.  :D


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 02:19:30 AM
I read that to texasmom ... but to be honest with you ... I don't believe half of what she says. 

I would think the whole "adoption/not adoption" thing would have happened some time ago, which to me would make Davids bio dad (IF thats who she and Clint are referring to)  a "least likely" suspect BUT someone "convenient" to cast a shadow of doubt upon Billie to deflect the light off herself and Shawn.  I would think he would have gotten over her and her antics by now but who knows ...

* I would still like to know more about the neighbor that saw Hailey talking on the phone and his abrupt exit (per his landlord) from his leased apartment.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 02:20:59 AM
Could this mystery man be Davids real father?

Hi Invision - I was wondering that myself.

Rumor has it on Topix that this guy is Shawn's cousin, worse yet that Billie thought it was cute that she's dating Shawn & as the poster put it Hailey had the hots for the cousin...now take that from the source as it may just be talk or wild imagination versus anything based on fact.   Personally, Id wait for some other confirmation other than just a post on a news comment thread.  That being said, that case scenario wouldnt shock me either.

Even if it were true why would Billie be willing to cover for Shawn's cousin, I guess one could understand why Shawn would but you'd think Billie would be outraged enough to tell Shawn that if his cousin and/or him hurt a hair on her daughter's head she wouldnt cover for them.  For this reason, even for her I cant see this being the case, although it is a possibility.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 02:24:04 AM
Is this cousin one of the "other persons" pollyed and failed?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 08, 2011, 02:26:10 AM
Could this mystery man be Davids real father?

Hi Invision - I was wondering that myself.

Rumor has it on Topix that this guy is Shawn's cousin, worse yet that Billie thought it was cute that she's dating Shawn & as the poster put it Hailey had the hots for the cousin...now take that from the source as it may just be talk or wild imagination versus anything based on fact.   Personally, Id wait for some other confirmation other than just a post on a news comment thread.  That being said, that case scenario wouldnt shock me either.

Even if it were true why would Billie be willing to cover for Shawn's cousin, I guess one could understand why Shawn would but you'd think Billie would be outraged enough to tell Shawn that if his cousin and/or him hurt a hair on her daughter's head she wouldnt cover for them.  For this reason, even for her I cant see this being the case, although it is a possibility.

Interesting, and I'll be following this little possible development because I've often thought of the cousin when I think what SA might have done, and who would have helped him.  The cousin is the one in the videos with SA in the boat, and in pictures doing a LOT of drugs, so it seems he's one SA can trust with the illegal stuff.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 02:27:14 AM
I really wish the released info in the affidavits would have given us an inkling as to the REAL reason David was removed from Billie's custody and care.  We all kow that CPS does not remove siblings from the homes of missing children.  Billie may not know that though, and that may be what they have told her.  But why?  What does David know?  Could he have possibly asked to be removed?  I bet that was an interesting interview between him and LE.  Out of the mouths of "babes"...

The only reason CPS would do that in the case of missing child is if the other siblings were at risk of being in danger still be it stranger or suspected family member.  NOT because anyone was in front of her house yelling obscenities.  The story doesnt hold true because every time we have seen her at the house being interviewed inside or out there hasnt been anyone out there protesting or calling her out of the house, besides NG's producers would have reported on it if for no other reason to add drama to the case coverage...i.e. the Anthonys.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: texasmom on February 08, 2011, 02:29:11 AM
Does Shawn's cousin have children?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 02:30:04 AM
Now that I think about it .... Clint supposively agrees that this mystery person should be looked at but LE can't find him or aren't looking hard enuff ... now having said that ... he also said Hailey is a "tomboy type" and would rather kick a boy than kiss a boy ... ssssooooo ... idk if Clint would think Hailey had the hots for anyone, therefore not thinking the cuz should be looked at ??  Does that make sense?  It does in my head ... but its late.  ;)

Unless Clint has recently learned of this "crush" and had info to back it up ...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 02:31:50 AM
I really wish the released info in the affidavits would have given us an inkling as to the REAL reason David was removed from Billie's custody and care.  We all kow that CPS does not remove siblings from the homes of missing children.  Billie may not know that though, and that may be what they have told her.  But why?  What does David know?  Could he have possibly asked to be removed?  I bet that was an interesting interview between him and LE.  Out of the mouths of "babes"...

The only reason CPS would do that in the case of missing child is if the other siblings were at risk of being in danger still be it stranger or suspected family member.  NOT because anyone was in front of her house yelling obscenities.  The story doesnt hold true because every time we have seen her at the house being interviewed inside or out there hasnt been anyone out there protesting or calling her out of the house, besides NG's producers would have reported on it if for no other reason to add drama to the case coverage...i.e. the Anthonys.

EXACTALY


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 02:32:46 AM
Could this mystery man be Davids real father?

Hi Invision - I was wondering that myself.

Hey there Klaas ... that would make sense if she was going to call CPS on someone ... especially someone that "gotten lost doing drugs" and is "crazy now".  Maybe she was going to go for child support or full custody and he wasn't going to comply so she told him she would call CPS and have his custodial rights of David taken away due to his drug usage.  Then maybe he threatened her and the child he didn't father.

Do we know anything about BJD's relationship with David's father?  I may have missed any information about that, but I would think they at least dated?

From tonight's show, I didn't type out all of the interviewer comments; just the questions.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/08/exclusive-live--billie-dunn-speaks-1

From approximately 37:00 in the show...

Question:  Is there a person that has threatened you and Hailey at all?

BJD:  Um, I'm not supposed to name anybody but investigators asked me if I knew this person had threatened me and Hailey.  I told them no I hadn't heard anything about it until just now when investigators were just now telling me.

(BJD is asked to please elablorate elaborate on this person)

BJD:  Um, I don't know what all I can say...I would love to.  Investigators just asked me if I knew this person had threatened mine and Hailey's life, I told them no I had no idea.  Um, it's somebody that's kind of close to the family, he had gotten lost doing drugs...the kids told me this is not the same person we knew before; he's crazy now.  And he told somebody he would like to smack me and Hailey in the head with a hammer for calling CPS on him.  We called CPS on him, something that Hailey told me.

Question: Was that Shawn?

BJD:  No, it wasn't.

Question:  Is this person in your family?

BJD: No.

Question:  Is this someone you dated?

BJD: No.



fixed typo  :oops:

How could she not know?  Who would have told them that, Shawn...I dont think so.   As I heard it earlier, it didnt sound plausible & it doesnt now.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: 4 Donks on February 08, 2011, 02:34:08 AM
I read that to texasmom ... but to be honest with you ... I don't believe half of what she says. 

I would think the whole "adoption/not adoption" thing would have happened some time ago, which to me would make Davids bio dad (IF thats who she and Clint are referring to)  a "least likely" suspect BUT someone "convenient" to cast a shadow of doubt upon Billie to deflect the light off herself and Shawn.  I would think he would have gotten over her and her antics by now but who knows ...

* I would still like to know more about the neighbor that saw Hailey talking on the phone and his abrupt exit (per his landlord) from his leased apartment.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:l7vth1wogvsJ:seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html+EXCLUSIVE:+Billie+Jean+Dunn+Revealed&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

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Billie is also quite clever and knows how to manipulate or game the system. She even tricked Clint (and the local school district) into signing some papers that he thought gave him David in adoption, as his son, allowing David to use the name, "Dunn" legally. Clint is proud of David. Billie's papers didn't mean that Clint adopted David. Billie tricked him, and she tricked the school district. Billie is clever, he explained.

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Clint is not his biological father, even though Billie wanted to deceive David into thinking so.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: texasmom on February 08, 2011, 02:36:02 AM
Does Shawn's cousin have children?

I'm asking that, keeping in mind that Hailey told BJD something about his person that they reported to CPS...if that's true.  So I'm thinking that it must have been something this person was doing to or around their child(ren)?  Or maybe around other people's children that the parent's were allowing them to be subjected to?  Hope that makes sense, lol.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: texasmom on February 08, 2011, 02:39:06 AM
Could this mystery man be Davids real father?

Hi Invision - I was wondering that myself.

Hey there Klaas ... that would make sense if she was going to call CPS on someone ... especially someone that "gotten lost doing drugs" and is "crazy now".  Maybe she was going to go for child support or full custody and he wasn't going to comply so she told him she would call CPS and have his custodial rights of David taken away due to his drug usage.  Then maybe he threatened her and the child he didn't father.

Do we know anything about BJD's relationship with David's father?  I may have missed any information about that, but I would think they at least dated?

From tonight's show, I didn't type out all of the interviewer comments; just the questions.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/08/exclusive-live--billie-dunn-speaks-1

From approximately 37:00 in the show...

Question:  Is there a person that has threatened you and Hailey at all?

BJD:  Um, I'm not supposed to name anybody but investigators asked me if I knew this person had threatened me and Hailey.  I told them no I hadn't heard anything about it until just now when investigators were just now telling me.

(BJD is asked to please elablorate elaborate on this person)

BJD:  Um, I don't know what all I can say...I would love to.  Investigators just asked me if I knew this person had threatened mine and Hailey's life, I told them no I had no idea.  Um, it's somebody that's kind of close to the family, he had gotten lost doing drugs...the kids told me this is not the same person we knew before; he's crazy now.  And he told somebody he would like to smack me and Hailey in the head with a hammer for calling CPS on him.  We called CPS on him, something that Hailey told me.

Question: Was that Shawn?

BJD:  No, it wasn't.

Question:  Is this person in your family?

BJD: No.

Question:  Is this someone you dated?

BJD: No.



fixed typo  :oops:

How could she not know?  Who would have told them that, Shawn...I dont think so.   As I heard it earlier, it didnt sound plausible & it doesnt now.

It seems plausible to me because Clint seems to be taking it seriously.  That's why I've been trying to think of possibilities.

Anyone in the community could have given LE the tip IMO.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 02:44:36 AM
Could this mystery man be Davids real father?

Hi Invision - I was wondering that myself.

Hey there Klaas ... that would make sense if she was going to call CPS on someone ... especially someone that "gotten lost doing drugs" and is "crazy now".  Maybe she was going to go for child support or full custody and he wasn't going to comply so she told him she would call CPS and have his custodial rights of David taken away due to his drug usage.  Then maybe he threatened her and the child he didn't father.

Do we know anything about BJD's relationship with David's father?  I may have missed any information about that, but I would think they at least dated?

From tonight's show, I didn't type out all of the interviewer comments; just the questions.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/08/exclusive-live--billie-dunn-speaks-1

From approximately 37:00 in the show...

Question:  Is there a person that has threatened you and Hailey at all?

BJD:  Um, I'm not supposed to name anybody but investigators asked me if I knew this person had threatened me and Hailey.  I told them no I hadn't heard anything about it until just now when investigators were just now telling me.

(BJD is asked to please elablorate elaborate on this person)

BJD:  Um, I don't know what all I can say...I would love to.  Investigators just asked me if I knew this person had threatened mine and Hailey's life, I told them no I had no idea.  Um, it's somebody that's kind of close to the family, he had gotten lost doing drugs...the kids told me this is not the same person we knew before; he's crazy now.  And he told somebody he would like to smack me and Hailey in the head with a hammer for calling CPS on him.  We called CPS on him, something that Hailey told me.

Question: Was that Shawn?

BJD:  No, it wasn't.

Question:  Is this person in your family?

BJD: No.

Question:  Is this someone you dated?

BJD: No.



fixed typo  :oops:

How could she not know?  Who would have told them that, Shawn...I dont think so.   As I heard it earlier, it didnt sound plausible & it doesnt now.



Ok  now that I see this in transcript form .. some things make more sense some things make less ... the above BBM  "the kids told me this is not the same person we knew before"  ... this statement sounds to me like it is somebody that the KIDS have more contact with than Billie.  I wouldn't think the kids would be around Shawns family without Billie since they don't seem meshed in a family way like that.  I would think this is someone on Clint's side of the family or Billies side of the family.  I know there have been references to Hailey calling her aunt on Clint's side (shows trust) but not much mention (other than the New Year's Eve party *snark*) about Billies side.  I wonder why there isn't much mentioned about Billies family.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 02:53:21 AM
Could this mystery man be Davids real father?

Hi Invision - I was wondering that myself.

Hey there Klaas ... that would make sense if she was going to call CPS on someone ... especially someone that "gotten lost doing drugs" and is "crazy now".  Maybe she was going to go for child support or full custody and he wasn't going to comply so she told him she would call CPS and have his custodial rights of David taken away due to his drug usage.  Then maybe he threatened her and the child he didn't father.

Do we know anything about BJD's relationship with David's father?  I may have missed any information about that, but I would think they at least dated?

From tonight's show, I didn't type out all of the interviewer comments; just the questions.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/08/exclusive-live--billie-dunn-speaks-1

From approximately 37:00 in the show...

Question:  Is there a person that has threatened you and Hailey at all?

BJD:  Um, I'm not supposed to name anybody but investigators asked me if I knew this person had threatened me and Hailey.  I told them no I hadn't heard anything about it until just now when investigators were just now telling me.

(BJD is asked to please elablorate elaborate on this person)

BJD:  Um, I don't know what all I can say...I would love to.  Investigators just asked me if I knew this person had threatened mine and Hailey's life, I told them no I had no idea.  Um, it's somebody that's kind of close to the family, he had gotten lost doing drugs...the kids told me this is not the same person we knew before; he's crazy now.  And he told somebody he would like to smack me and Hailey in the head with a hammer for calling CPS on him.  We called CPS on him, something that Hailey told me.

Question: Was that Shawn?

BJD:  No, it wasn't.

Question:  Is this person in your family?

BJD: No.

Question:  Is this someone you dated?

BJD: No.



fixed typo  :oops:

How could she not know?  Who would have told them that, Shawn...I dont think so.   As I heard it earlier, it didnt sound plausible & it doesnt now.

It seems plausible to me because Clint seems to be taking it seriously.  That's why I've been trying to think of possibilities.

Anyone in the community could have given LE the tip IMO.

I mean plausible that she wouldnt have known a threat was made.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 02:56:43 AM
Does Shawn's cousin have children?

I'm asking that, keeping in mind that Hailey told BJD something about his person that they reported to CPS...if that's true.  So I'm thinking that it must have been something this person was doing to or around their child(ren)?  Or maybe around other people's children that the parent's were allowing them to be subjected to?  Hope that makes sense, lol.

I seem to remember in viewing a bunch of disturbing pictures of Shawn & his cousin that there was one with some gnarly dude holding a baby....it might be posted here a good bit back.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 02:57:40 AM

Hailey Dunn - A Mother's Timeline of Events
Submitted by Ellen on 4 February, 2011 - 20:31.  http://www.helpfindmychild.net/hailey-dunn


-snipped   
10:30 - 1:00pm: A neighbor sees Hailey walking away from her house and then back towards her house. A young boy is with her.

12:00pm: A neighbor sees Hailey in the back yard talking on the phone.  -snipped

How can a neighbor see Hailey walk away from the house at 10:30 and walk back at 1:00 pm ... IF a neighbor sees Hailey in the back yard on the phone at noon?  Which neighbor are we to believe?  She can't be on her phone in the backyard at noon if she isn't home.  BJD better re-type her timeline   ::MonkeyWink::







Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Shell on February 08, 2011, 02:59:15 AM
OMG!!! That comment above looked liked a nurse bash!!  I have more respect for them than most doctors!!  In no way do I mean anything by that.  I was only describing those like BD. To me a true nurse who cares for her patients are the ones who make the world go round!  Not only is too much work put on them but they are beside the patient the whole time carrying out docs orders and the reason it gets done and patients get better!

No way Melis! You're posts are always thoughtful as well as thought provoking. I didn't look like a nurse bash session to me. You're sincere, and post from your perspective, and it's greatly appreciated, at least by my opinion.

Agreed, it did NOT look like nurse bash>I would have said something if it had ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 03:02:11 AM

Hailey Dunn - A Mother's Timeline of Events
Submitted by Ellen on 4 February, 2011 - 20:31.  http://www.helpfindmychild.net/hailey-dunn


-snipped   
10:30 - 1:00pm: A neighbor sees Hailey walking away from her house and then back towards her house. A young boy is with her.

12:00pm: A neighbor sees Hailey in the back yard talking on the phone.  -snipped

How can a neighbor see Hailey walk away from the house at 10:30 and walk back at 1:00 pm ... IF a neighbor sees Hailey in the back yard on the phone at noon?  Which neighbor are we to believe?  She can't be on her phone in the backyard at noon if she isn't home.  BJD better re-type her timeline   ::MonkeyWink::




As I see it, Billie is the one not to be believed.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Shell on February 08, 2011, 03:18:45 AM
I want to know if the police recorded (video or voice) their interviews with Billie & Shawn. I know the affidavit or warrant informs that Shawn said Hailey was promiscuous, but I specifically remember either Billie or Shawn stating that's not actually what was said...I remember Billie or Shawn saying that what Shawn actually said was that "Hailey was boy crazy". Could the police have used promiscuous in place of boy crazy?

...Just trying to be thorough...

...& I still wanna know more about Walston and Pharris...

Tiche

Consider Shawn and Billie's oppositional take on aspects of the affidavits ... I also hope that interrogations sessions were recorded.

Janet

++++++

Boy Crazy?

Person of interest in missing girl case prays for her return
Saturday, January 15, 2011


<snipped>

Adkins told the AP he loves Hailey and that his life has been "flipped upside down" since her disappearance.

"I struggle so hard just to make it through the day," he said. "I can't begin to imagine what Hailey's family, especially her parents and brother are going through."

Adkins said police have misquoted him in affidavits.

In one, police said Adkins at first was "very positive" about Hailey, but that as time went on he indicated she was promiscuous and used drugs. Adkins denied that Friday. He said he had told police Billie and Hailey Dunn had discussed birth control and that he had told investigators the teen was "boy crazy."

<snipped>

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/state&id=7899816


Investigative Purposes?

Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
By Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 2:17 pm CST January 12, 2011


<snipped>

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- KTXS News has obtained documents that show startling facts into the investigation of missing 13-year-old Hailey Dunn that point to Hailey's mother Billie Jean Dunn and her former live-in boyfriend Shawn Adkins as being primary suspects.

Through the Freedom of Information Act, KTXS has received copies of affidavits that were filed by law enforcement officials for the purpose of securing search warrants to search for and seize evidence related to Hailey’s disappearance.

The affidavits contain facts discovered by law enforcement officials and statements made by Billie Dunn, Adkins and others. In all, a total of six search warrants were issued by Mitchell County Judge Ray Mayo.

The information provided in the affidavits does not assign any guilt or innocence. They are used for investigative purposes only, but in being released to the public for the first time, they do provide explosive details about what law enforcement authorities have found.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html

Janet, Thanks so much! I knew I read that or heard it on Nancy's show!

I know I keep pressing this issue, and am fearing people will think I'm a ridiculous scratched record that keeps skipping at the same spot - I really want to know more about Walston and Pharris. For instance, Pharris was kicked out of Walston's house right after Hailey went missing. Well...why? Is it bc he was a bad questionable fella...or could he have brought attention to somebody else that didn;t want attention? What do we know about these two people? Somebody stated on a previous thread that Pharris was in a wheelchair. I still haven;t validated that info but would not discount it. I trust whomever said it. But again, that's all I know about these 2 cats...

Why would Walston kick out a person that stated they saw Hailey in the back yard talking on the cell around noon? Even if Pharris was wrong about the day or time, it's still no reason to kick the guy out. Then it was reported that the neighbor wasn't reliable bc they were a known drug user. Well, which one...or both? Why did Walston kick out Pharris?

If Pharris was in a wheelchair how could he see Hailey talking on the phone? I ask this because I recall fencing and I recall (I could be wrong..hehe when relying on memory) but wasn't his yard a "ways" away?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 03:28:09 AM
http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/03/no-headline---missing_girl_folo/
-snipped

Billie Dunn, who was working a 12-hour hospital shift that day, said she was a little upset when her daughter did not call her later to confirm that she was staying with a friend. However, she said she never was worried that she was somewhere else.

-snipped

Was this her "normal" working hours?  Why would a secretary need to work a 12 hour shift?  I would be interested in knowing if she did split shifts (which I wouldn't know why a secretary would) OR if this was an "unusual" day that she worked 12 hours.  (I'd also like to see a copy of the time card!)


*confirmation that Billie said she is a secretary at the hosp

-snipped
You said you left that morning around 6:00 a.m. to go to your -- to your work, right, you`re a nurse administrator, correct?

DUNN: No, I`m the secretary up there at the hospital. I left about 6:30. -snipped
http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/12/ng.01.html




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Shell on February 08, 2011, 03:44:58 AM
OMG EintheB, you seriously don't have to be so mean to Janet. That's nuts. Her heart is in the right place. Alot of times, when setting up a site, you even have to get permission to link to other sites directly, for each & every link, and the permission has to be in writing if it's copywritten. I mean no disrespect, as I sincerely believe your whole Case Signal site shows sooo much work, but even transcripts of interviews that are painstakingly typed out before transcripts are provided cannot be copywritten by the person doing the transcribing, unless that person is the same person doing or owning the interview. Ultimately, it looks like you set up your site to help find missing children. So far, you're covering Gabriel and Hailey. I think it's beautiful when people work together to help spread awareness, especially when dealing with blogs. A blog is not a major news network. It's a blog.

I am so,so glad I stick to just one site. I *love* scared monkeys  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Shell on February 08, 2011, 03:53:42 AM

Janet, I just did a quick YouTube search. This one was submitted by a person from Find Hailey Dunn's Facebook:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWWUhh0ZZaM


Billie ... get real!  If Shawn quit his job on December 27th ... logic dictates that he did not drive to his job after dropping you off at your workplace on the morning of December 28th.  Where was this guy on December 28th until 4:00 PM in the afternoon?

You efforts to shield Shawn and distance the truth regarding your daughter's disappearance can only be considered an ultimate betrayal of a mother.

Janet

+++++++

Billie Dunn's Press Conference (paraphrase):

1.  Shawn does not tell Billie until December 29th that was not at work on December 27th.

2.  Shawn tells Billie that on December 27th he quit his job ... cleaned out his locker  and .. returned his coveralls.

3.   Billie states states that on the morning of December 28th ... Shawn drove her to work and then drove to his workplace ... starting time 7:00 AM and ... arrived home at 4:00 PM.

Transcript

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/01/31/hailey-dunn-billie-jean-dunn-press-conference-january-31-transcription-1/


Billie's Timeline Handout

http://www.newswest9.com/Global/link.asp?L=474268



But he didn't quit work...yet I have not heard where he was on Dec. 28...maybe it is in forthcoming posts,,, sorry, I am so far behind


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Shell on February 08, 2011, 03:55:10 AM

OT
Note to self,,,go back to page 10


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Shell on February 08, 2011, 04:23:35 AM
Here we go again with the DARK BOY comment.. how freaking rude of her there too..
::MonkeyNoNo:: You seem to be inside my head Angie.....scary to have this person as a mother.

 She didnt need to say that.. I know she has before.. why just not say Naomis son... I feel bad for that poor kid now too.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I would rather be a Dark Boy than a piece of piece of white worthless ignorant trash any day of the week. OMG did I say that?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Shell on February 08, 2011, 04:49:33 AM
Caller asks why she's calm. Dude, she's calm bc she's ON ATIVAN!

Shes trying to bring on the tears now since she was confronted on it.   Ativan doesnt even begin to cover why she is so cold, she would still have some notable effect.

Actually, I have known someone on a lot of ativan and it can bring on the cold....unfeeling out of touch that I see in BJD.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Shell on February 08, 2011, 05:07:43 AM
EXCLUSIVE: Hailey Suspect Breaks His Silence

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339526

Dunn, TX -   A month and half into the investigation of the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, the only named suspect in the case is breaking his silence.
SNIPED
"I just felt like it was a witch hunt at the time and they were just trying to pin it on somebody which was me. I didn't want that happening so I just stopped talking to them," he said.

sniped
"I never made any threats toward Hailey. It was just toward Billie," said Adkins.

More at link

Oh cool Shawn, well then that is ok. Who makes threats towards anybody?...you creep


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Shell on February 08, 2011, 05:22:19 AM
Here we go again with the DARK BOY comment.. how freaking rude of her there too..
::MonkeyNoNo:: You seem to be inside my head Angie.....scary to have this person as a mother.

 She didnt need to say that.. I know she has before.. why just not say Naomis son... I feel bad for that poor kid now too.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I would rather be a Dark Boy than a piece of piece of white worthless ignorant trash any day of the week. OMG did I say that?

edit..*a piece of * and delete piece of-although she is a couple of pieces of  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Shell on February 08, 2011, 05:24:50 AM

So now I am answering myself, time to leave.  ::piggy::

Also time for Billie Jean Dunn (I hate how that name sounds so Hollywood) to sober up, straighten up and face reality.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Bearlyhere on February 08, 2011, 07:25:50 AM
Now that I think about it .... Clint supposively agrees that this mystery person should be looked at but LE can't find him or aren't looking hard enuff ... now having said that ... he also said Hailey is a "tomboy type" and would rather kick a boy than kiss a boy ... ssssooooo ... idk if Clint would think Hailey had the hots for anyone, therefore not thinking the cuz should be looked at ??  Does that make sense?  It does in my head ... but its late.  ;)

Unless Clint has recently learned of this "crush" and had info to back it up ...

Hmmm....I wonder if Hailey tried to kick him trying to get away from him?



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Fanny Mae on February 08, 2011, 08:43:05 AM
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Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 08, 2011, 09:14:16 AM
Could this mystery man be Davids real father?

Hi Invision - I was wondering that myself.

Rumor has it on Topix that this guy is Shawn's cousin, worse yet that Billie thought it was cute that she's dating Shawn & as the poster put it Hailey had the hots for the cousin...now take that from the source as it may just be talk or wild imagination versus anything based on fact.   Personally, Id wait for some other confirmation other than just a post on a news comment thread.  That being said, that case scenario wouldnt shock me either.

Even if it were true why would Billie be willing to cover for Shawn's cousin, I guess one could understand why Shawn would but you'd think Billie would be outraged enough to tell Shawn that if his cousin and/or him hurt a hair on her daughter's head she wouldnt cover for them.  For this reason, even for her I cant see this being the case, although it is a possibility.

I have heard that too, but also heard and recall Clint stating he was going to call CPS about the acid tattoos and that she said she would report his brother due to Hailey seeing a mushroom.........so, another of one on Clint's side tossed under the bus.....so we have her eluding to Clint, Naomi, Clint's brother and MB as a liar. That is a bus about the size of the Anthony's IMO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 08, 2011, 09:18:11 AM
I really wish the released info in the affidavits would have given us an inkling as to the REAL reason David was removed from Billie's custody and care.  We all kow that CPS does not remove siblings from the homes of missing children.  Billie may not know that though, and that may be what they have told her.  But why?  What does David know?  Could he have possibly asked to be removed?  I bet that was an interesting interview between him and LE.  Out of the mouths of "babes"...

The only reason CPS would do that in the case of missing child is if the other siblings were at risk of being in danger still be it stranger or suspected family member.  NOT because anyone was in front of her house yelling obscenities.  The story doesnt hold true because every time we have seen her at the house being interviewed inside or out there hasnt been anyone out there protesting or calling her out of the house, besides NG's producers would have reported on it if for no other reason to add drama to the case coverage...i.e. the Anthonys.

EXACTALY

BINGO~plus if it was voluntary why would she have to sign paperwork?? Another thing she states he is there everyday which I don't believe for a nano-second, but how is that protecting him from hearing the obscentities screamed and CZ her special friend also stated ppl were throwing rocks at the house. I don't believe a word of of her mouth, CZ's, Shawns or frankly anyone that she has doing her dirty work cause we all know she does indeed know what is posted on the net about her.......her story changes accordingly and when everyone heard Clint speak on Blogtalk radio most thought he would be the better "voice" for Hailey and mentioned it all over the net. BAM~next day, Billie goes on and on about how she needs to be Hailey's voice. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Fanny Mae on February 08, 2011, 09:20:21 AM
I haven't been here for a day. I was wondering if there was anything new going on?  I will be reading back in the meantime.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Serenity on February 08, 2011, 09:23:59 AM
I am a nurse also,and our secretaries do work 12 hr shifts also.Why haven't we heard why Billie has not been arrested for admitting to taking Silver Nitrate from her work? Stealing is stealing,and that's one way to get her in jail,then she wouln't have her drugs to zone her out and maybe LE can get info out of her.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 08, 2011, 09:40:05 AM
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OT~not sure you got my message yesterday, but you have a package on the way ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 08, 2011, 09:45:30 AM
I really wish the released info in the affidavits would have given us an inkling as to the REAL reason David was removed from Billie's custody and care.  We all kow that CPS does not remove siblings from the homes of missing children.  Billie may not know that though, and that may be what they have told her.  But why?  What does David know?  Could he have possibly asked to be removed?  I bet that was an interesting interview between him and LE.  Out of the mouths of "babes"...

The only reason CPS would do that in the case of missing child is if the other siblings were at risk of being in danger still be it stranger or suspected family member.  NOT because anyone was in front of her house yelling obscenities.  The story doesnt hold true because every time we have seen her at the house being interviewed inside or out there hasnt been anyone out there protesting or calling her out of the house, besides NG's producers would have reported on it if for no other reason to add drama to the case coverage...i.e. the Anthonys.

EXACTALY

BINGO~plus if it was voluntary why would she have to sign paperwork?? Another thing she states he is there everyday which I don't believe for a nano-second, but how is that protecting him from hearing the obscentities screamed and CZ her special friend also stated ppl were throwing rocks at the house. I don't believe a word of of her mouth, CZ's, Shawns or frankly anyone that she has doing her dirty work cause we all know she does indeed know what is posted on the net about her.......her story changes accordingly and when everyone heard Clint speak on Blogtalk radio most thought he would be the better "voice" for Hailey and mentioned it all over the net. BAM~next day, Billie goes on and on about how she needs to be Hailey's voice. ::MonkeyTongue::

On a "voluntary" placement with CPS, the custodial parent usually only signs a power of attorney giving the party who takes the child the ability to seek medical treatment for them and to enroll them in school.  That POA is revocable at any time by the parent, hence it isn't worth the paper it is written on.  That is why after my grandson was placed with my voluntarily by his bio father, the bio father was able to come and take him from me (I call it kidnapping), and CPS didn't do anything about it.  The only time CPS can enforce anything is when they go to court and get a judge to sign a removal order.  Then it isn't voluntary. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 08, 2011, 09:54:56 AM
I really wish the released info in the affidavits would have given us an inkling as to the REAL reason David was removed from Billie's custody and care.  We all kow that CPS does not remove siblings from the homes of missing children.  Billie may not know that though, and that may be what they have told her.  But why?  What does David know?  Could he have possibly asked to be removed?  I bet that was an interesting interview between him and LE.  Out of the mouths of "babes"...

The only reason CPS would do that in the case of missing child is if the other siblings were at risk of being in danger still be it stranger or suspected family member.  NOT because anyone was in front of her house yelling obscenities.  The story doesnt hold true because every time we have seen her at the house being interviewed inside or out there hasnt been anyone out there protesting or calling her out of the house, besides NG's producers would have reported on it if for no other reason to add drama to the case coverage...i.e. the Anthonys.

EXACTALY

BINGO~plus if it was voluntary why would she have to sign paperwork?? Another thing she states he is there everyday which I don't believe for a nano-second, but how is that protecting him from hearing the obscentities screamed and CZ her special friend also stated ppl were throwing rocks at the house. I don't believe a word of of her mouth, CZ's, Shawns or frankly anyone that she has doing her dirty work cause we all know she does indeed know what is posted on the net about her.......her story changes accordingly and when everyone heard Clint speak on Blogtalk radio most thought he would be the better "voice" for Hailey and mentioned it all over the net. BAM~next day, Billie goes on and on about how she needs to be Hailey's voice. ::MonkeyTongue::

On a "voluntary" placement with CPS, the custodial parent usually only signs a power of attorney giving the party who takes the child the ability to seek medical treatment for them and to enroll them in school.  That POA is revocable at any time by the parent, hence it isn't worth the paper it is written on.  That is why after my grandson was placed with my voluntarily by his bio father, the bio father was able to come and take him from me (I call it kidnapping), and CPS didn't do anything about it.  The only time CPS can enforce anything is when they go to court and get a judge to sign a removal order.  Then it isn't voluntary. 

Ok~thanks for clearing that up for me.......that does make sense.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 08, 2011, 10:08:44 AM
I really wish the released info in the affidavits would have given us an inkling as to the REAL reason David was removed from Billie's custody and care.  We all kow that CPS does not remove siblings from the homes of missing children.  Billie may not know that though, and that may be what they have told her.  But why?  What does David know?  Could he have possibly asked to be removed?  I bet that was an interesting interview between him and LE.  Out of the mouths of "babes"...

The only reason CPS would do that in the case of missing child is if the other siblings were at risk of being in danger still be it stranger or suspected family member.  NOT because anyone was in front of her house yelling obscenities.  The story doesnt hold true because every time we have seen her at the house being interviewed inside or out there hasnt been anyone out there protesting or calling her out of the house, besides NG's producers would have reported on it if for no other reason to add drama to the case coverage...i.e. the Anthonys.

EXACTALY

BINGO~plus if it was voluntary why would she have to sign paperwork?? Another thing she states he is there everyday which I don't believe for a nano-second, but how is that protecting him from hearing the obscentities screamed and CZ her special friend also stated ppl were throwing rocks at the house. I don't believe a word of of her mouth, CZ's, Shawns or frankly anyone that she has doing her dirty work cause we all know she does indeed know what is posted on the net about her.......her story changes accordingly and when everyone heard Clint speak on Blogtalk radio most thought he would be the better "voice" for Hailey and mentioned it all over the net. BAM~next day, Billie goes on and on about how she needs to be Hailey's voice. ::MonkeyTongue::

On a "voluntary" placement with CPS, the custodial parent usually only signs a power of attorney giving the party who takes the child the ability to seek medical treatment for them and to enroll them in school.  That POA is revocable at any time by the parent, hence it isn't worth the paper it is written on.  That is why after my grandson was placed with my voluntarily by his bio father, the bio father was able to come and take him from me (I call it kidnapping), and CPS didn't do anything about it.  The only time CPS can enforce anything is when they go to court and get a judge to sign a removal order.  Then it isn't voluntary. 

Ok~thanks for clearing that up for me.......that does make sense.

No problem, IM.  I have had more experience with TX CPS than I would care to relate and in many different capacities.  The only other caveat is that nothing is set in stone with CPS -- rules and regulations are merely guidelines that they tend to bend to fit whatever situation is in front of them. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: melisb on February 08, 2011, 10:59:43 AM
I am a nurse also,and our secretaries do work 12 hr shifts also.Why haven't we heard why Billie has not been arrested for admitting to taking Silver Nitrate from her work? Stealing is stealing,and that's one way to get her in jail,then she wouln't have her drugs to zone her out and maybe LE can get info out of her.

You are so right!  Normally ALL supplies/meds./etc., have to be logged out and billed to someone even if the silver nitrate stick was part of a room supply each one has to be identified when being used as part of a treatment.  I can see how it would be very easy to have those or a few go missing but just how many 12, 13, 14 year olds know what you use silver nitrate for???? Bille Dummazzbiotch would've had to mention it unless the kid found it somewhere on a web site.  But if I remember correctly there was no internet in the home.  Stealing is stealing!  Wonder how the hospital is liking Billie Dumm now.  Would love to hear if she is able to go back to work!  Don't know if they have good reasons to fire/let go but copying web material not authorized by her superior on company time and the silver nitrate might be good reasons to talk about termination!!!!  She'd have to strip full time to support loverboy then wouldn't she!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 08, 2011, 11:01:36 AM
Just posted in Who's Who  ::MonkeyEek::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9319.msg1301916#msg1301916


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 11:19:35 AM
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/th_40gmCoffeeKlatch11.gif)

Good morning everybody!

Fanny, missed ya last night!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 11:38:54 AM
Just posted in Who's Who  ::MonkeyEek::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9319.msg1301916#msg1301916

Thanks, Klaas. I was in the middle of a post & my restarted. Weird.

Anyway, look at the date on the picture. Jan 13, 2008? Really? I thought Billie & Clint have only been seperated for 2.5 years...hmmm...last I looked it's now 2011 so that makes the date of this picture 3 years. Could they have been having an affair?

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5020/5427869953_0b567cf199_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 08, 2011, 11:47:29 AM
IMO Hailey's entire family is looking a lot like Haleigh's entire family.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 11:51:37 AM
I just wanted to send Janet hugs.  :)  /hug hug hug hug hug

I just love warm and fuzzies.  A perfect start to my day.

Thanks starwynn.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 11:55:04 AM
I am a nurse also,and our secretaries do work 12 hr shifts also.Why haven't we heard why Billie has not been arrested for admitting to taking Silver Nitrate from her work? Stealing is stealing,and that's one way to get her in jail,then she wouln't have her drugs to zone her out and maybe LE can get info out of her.

wow ... thanks serenity!  I never woulda thunk that!  and you are sssooo right on stealing is stealing and I am sure she had to have signed a little "thou shalt not steal" paper when she was hired .... I wonder if it's from the same employer she is "currently" working for, if not, the other hosp may not care to press charges by now.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 11:55:11 AM
If Pharris was in a wheelchair how could he see Hailey talking on the phone? I ask this because I recall fencing and I recall (I could be wrong..hehe when relying on memory) but wasn't his yard a "ways" away?

Respectfully snipped by me...to make room for this:

Billie's address with the phone blacked out:

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/BJDaddress.jpg)


Travis' address (where Pharris was living) with the phone blacked out:

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/ctwaddress.jpg)


Directions list only 118 feet apart in distance:

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/1804-1744aa1.jpg)


Google maps satellite pic showing trees in the summer/spring:

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/1804-1744aa.jpg)


Google maps satellite pics showing in order of Billie's side & back yard, then back of Billie's yard &  side street, then back of neighbor's yard and then Travis' backyard:

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/1804-1744a.jpg)

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/1804-1744b.jpg)

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/1804-1744c.jpg)


Link and snippet of article stating Walston & Pharris lived 2 houses down from Billie:

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/19/official-rumor-untrue-missing-colorado-city-teen-h/

Snip:

Travis Walston, who owns a house two doors down from the Dunn home, reported seeing the teenager Christmas Eve.

He said that Dennis Pharris, who was living in Walston's house, reported seeing Hailey in her backyard talking on a cell phone at noon Dec. 27.

"I have told the cops that his story is not reliable," said Walston, who added that he had kicked Pharris out of the house. It is unknown whether Pharris is a person of interest.


Me: Now I have no idea about a wheelchair as I've only read it on here and haven;t validated it yet, but I still can;t help but question why Walston kicked out Pharris right after Hailey went missing and Pharris said he saw her in the back yard on the phone. It's been said that he's drug addled, but is that just a rumor or truth? What do we know about Walston and/or Pharris? IMO, even if Pharris is in a wheelchair, he can still see clearly into Billie's backyard.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 08, 2011, 11:55:34 AM
I like good mornings and warm and fuzzies too but let's try and keep the missing persons thread on topic.  We can say our good mornings and such in Musings or the Monkey Lounge.  TIA:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=26.0

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5300/5426010155_5855c5378b.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 11:59:11 AM
Klaas, just to be thorough, I'd like to make note of where Pharris & Walston live(d). Should I place it in docs or pics? I don't think it'll amount to anything, but what if...ya know? Personally, I think they're looking at the right guy, but again just trying to be thorough.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 12:00:35 PM
IMO Hailey's entire family is looking a lot like Haleigh's entire family.

completely agree omg!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 12:03:10 PM
I am a nurse also,and our secretaries do work 12 hr shifts also.Why haven't we heard why Billie has not been arrested for admitting to taking Silver Nitrate from her work? Stealing is stealing,and that's one way to get her in jail,then she wouln't have her drugs to zone her out and maybe LE can get info out of her.


Very good question, now that she's admitted it in public.   There is no reason for a secretary to bring home those items stolen from a hospital, not a nurse either for that matter but she cant even claim that she uses those items in the performance of her duties & had some in her pocket...she really has no filter & is definitely way short of clever.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 12:03:40 PM
-snipped from above

Snip:

Travis Walston, who owns a house two doors down from the Dunn home, reported seeing the teenager Christmas Eve.

He said that Dennis Pharris, who was living in Walston's house, reported seeing Hailey in her backyard talking on a cell phone at noon Dec. 27."I have told the cops that his story is not reliable," said Walston, who added that he had kicked Pharris out of the house. It is unknown whether Pharris is a person of interest.


Me: Now I have no idea about a wheelchair as I've only read it on here and haven;t validated it yet, but I still can;t help but question why Walston kicked out Pharris right after Hailey went missing and Pharris said he saw her in the back yard on the phone. It's been said that he's drug addled, but is that just a rumor or truth? What do we know about Walston and/or Pharris? IMO, even if Pharris is in a wheelchair, he can still see clearly into Billie's backyard.
*********************************************************************************

I wonder what the significance of him seeing her Christmas Eve (the 24th) is OR if its more poor reporting.  IF he did see her then, has he been watching Haileys every move?  hhhuuummm

PS  TY ... very informative post Titch!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 08, 2011, 12:09:50 PM
Klaas, just to be thorough, I'd like to make note of where Pharris & Walston live(d). Should I place it in docs or pics? I don't think it'll amount to anything, but what if...ya know? Personally, I think they're looking at the right guy, but again just trying to be thorough.

Either in this thread or Docs/Pics is fine.  It is on topic either way and I agree a good thing to save and take note of.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 12:09:55 PM
-snipped from above

Snip:

Travis Walston, who owns a house two doors down from the Dunn home, reported seeing the teenager Christmas Eve.

He said that Dennis Pharris, who was living in Walston's house, reported seeing Hailey in her backyard talking on a cell phone at noon Dec. 27."I have told the cops that his story is not reliable," said Walston, who added that he had kicked Pharris out of the house. It is unknown whether Pharris is a person of interest.


Me: Now I have no idea about a wheelchair as I've only read it on here and haven;t validated it yet, but I still can;t help but question why Walston kicked out Pharris right after Hailey went missing and Pharris said he saw her in the back yard on the phone. It's been said that he's drug addled, but is that just a rumor or truth? What do we know about Walston and/or Pharris? IMO, even if Pharris is in a wheelchair, he can still see clearly into Billie's backyard.
*********************************************************************************

I wonder what the significance of him seeing her Christmas Eve (the 24th) is OR if its more poor reporting.  IF he did see her then, has he been watching Haileys every move?  hhhuuummm

PS  TY ... very informative post Titch!

Welcome, I can't stand loose ends lol. I've been asking about these 2 guys since the info originally arose, which I do believe was on Nancy Grace & Billie mentioned it...she just didn't give their names if I remember right. If either of the guys were on drugs, wonder whom they bought them from...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 08, 2011, 12:11:24 PM
IMO Hailey's entire family is looking a lot like Haleigh's entire family.
::rhino:: ::rhino::

I said the same thing 6 weeks ago, I was just waiting for a Halloween themed wedding and "Only Micheal Myers can Judge Me " on her new van ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 12:17:23 PM
Klaas, just to be thorough, I'd like to make note of where Pharris & Walston live(d). Should I place it in docs or pics? I don't think it'll amount to anything, but what if...ya know? Personally, I think they're looking at the right guy, but again just trying to be thorough.

Either in this thread or Docs/Pics is fine.  It is on topic either way and I agree a good thing to save and take note of.

I put it in the pics thread.

Do you happen to know where I could find the original date for Billie to renew her nursing license and then also the date she didn't show up to plead her case in order to keep her nursing license? I literally forget. Last thread or thread before? Maybe I could search a person that posted it, only problem is I forget who posted it...haha.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 12:18:11 PM
-snipped from above

Snip:

Travis Walston, who owns a house two doors down from the Dunn home, reported seeing the teenager Christmas Eve.

He said that Dennis Pharris, who was living in Walston's house, reported seeing Hailey in her backyard talking on a cell phone at noon Dec. 27."I have told the cops that his story is not reliable," said Walston, who added that he had kicked Pharris out of the house. It is unknown whether Pharris is a person of interest.


Me: Now I have no idea about a wheelchair as I've only read it on here and haven;t validated it yet, but I still can;t help but question why Walston kicked out Pharris right after Hailey went missing and Pharris said he saw her in the back yard on the phone. It's been said that he's drug addled, but is that just a rumor or truth? What do we know about Walston and/or Pharris? IMO, even if Pharris is in a wheelchair, he can still see clearly into Billie's backyard.
*********************************************************************************

I wonder what the significance of him seeing her Christmas Eve (the 24th) is OR if its more poor reporting.  IF he did see her then, has he been watching Haileys every move?  hhhuuummm

PS  TY ... very informative post Titch!

Welcome, I can't stand loose ends lol. I've been asking about these 2 guys since the info originally arose, which I do believe was on Nancy Grace & Billie mentioned it...she just didn't give their names if I remember right. If either of the guys were on drugs, wonder whom they bought them from...

Exactaly AND if they (Shawn n Billie) owed "them" any money ... I thought the comment she made, that they withdrew ALL their money (was that like a "thought" that just came out of her mouth) ... kind of like .... "I gave them all we had" ... why else would we (the public) need to know that.  Just seemed like a weird comment to me ..


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Serenity on February 08, 2011, 12:27:39 PM
Silver Nitrate sticks can be hazardous,they are extremely caustic...You HAVE to have a prescription to get them AND only a doctor can apply it.We have a nurse practitioner here that can apply it in a doctors presence.If a nurse were to get caught with something like that in her possession she not only would be arrested,she would also lose her license.She already publicly admitted to taking these home. I just can't understand why they cannot lock her up ??
We are really seeing her true self.Lying,stealing,drug abuse,good Lord she is a mess..Lock her a___  up


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 12:28:56 PM
Hailey's Boyfriend

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 4, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Did your daughter have a boyfriend?

BILLIE DUNN, MOTHER: She had a boyfriend that I didn`t know about, about three weeks ago, for a short time.

GRACE: How old was he?

B. DUNN: He was 13 also.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/04/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: nicubird on February 08, 2011, 12:30:16 PM
Klaas, just to be thorough, I'd like to make note of where Pharris & Walston live(d). Should I place it in docs or pics? I don't think it'll amount to anything, but what if...ya know? Personally, I think they're looking at the right guy, but again just trying to be thorough.

Either in this thread or Docs/Pics is fine.  It is on topic either way and I agree a good thing to save and take note of.

I put it in the pics thread.

Do you happen to know where I could find the original date for Billie to renew her nursing license and then also the date she didn't show up to plead her case in order to keep her nursing license? I literally forget. Last thread or thread before? Maybe I could search a person that posted it, only problem is I forget who posted it...haha.

I think the information you want is in the Texas Board of Nursing disciplinary document:

http://204.65.111.68/THP/ohytg345vrocnv555cc41fjm/613255.PDF


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 12:33:42 PM
Silver Nitrate sticks can be hazardous,they are extremely caustic...You HAVE to have a prescription to get them AND only a doctor can apply it.We have a nurse practitioner here that can apply it in a doctors presence.If a nurse were to get caught with something like that in her possession she not only would be arrested,she would also lose her license.She already publicly admitted to taking these home. I just can't understand why they cannot lock her up ??
We are really seeing her true self.Lying,stealing,drug abuse,good Lord she is a mess..Lock her a___  up

Hi Serenity. Actually, it used to be that way, but now they come in different concentrations, therefore some may be purchased otc at pharmacies. Again, the ones that would be otc are a lesser concentration than what a doctor scrip would be. I agree, she should be investigated to the deepest degree.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 12:34:59 PM
Thank you Nicu!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 12:37:12 PM
Klaas, just to be thorough, I'd like to make note of where Pharris & Walston live(d). Should I place it in docs or pics? I don't think it'll amount to anything, but what if...ya know? Personally, I think they're looking at the right guy, but again just trying to be thorough.

Either in this thread or Docs/Pics is fine.  It is on topic either way and I agree a good thing to save and take note of.

I put it in the pics thread.

Do you happen to know where I could find the original date for Billie to renew her nursing license and then also the date she didn't show up to plead her case in order to keep her nursing license? I literally forget. Last thread or thread before? Maybe I could search a person that posted it, only problem is I forget who posted it...haha.

I think the information you want is in the Texas Board of Nursing disciplinary document:

http://204.65.111.68/THP/ohytg345vrocnv555cc41fjm/613255.PDF

Acck...it's not coming up...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: 4 Donks on February 08, 2011, 12:38:51 PM
According to the friend posting on her behalf she has worked at the same place for 7 years. Therefor she was kept on as a unit clerk after losing her LVN license and they supposedly were trying to assist her in getting her license reinstated. Normally I would call BS but they didn't fire her after she lost her license so maybe it is just a poorly run institution.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: joesamas mama on February 08, 2011, 12:39:55 PM
Klaas, just to be thorough, I'd like to make note of where Pharris & Walston live(d). Should I place it in docs or pics? I don't think it'll amount to anything, but what if...ya know? Personally, I think they're looking at the right guy, but again just trying to be thorough.

Either in this thread or Docs/Pics is fine.  It is on topic either way and I agree a good thing to save and take note of.

I put it in the pics thread.

Do you happen to know where I could find the original date for Billie to renew her nursing license and then also the date she didn't show up to plead her case in order to keep her nursing license? I literally forget. Last thread or thread before? Maybe I could search a person that posted it, only problem is I forget who posted it...haha.
Her license expired 5-31-2007 Sorry if it has already been posted http://204.65.111.68/THP/jvtltt45klr23sizeyfprub3/613255.PDF third sentence under Charge I  ::MonkeyBike:: BTL JSM


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 12:46:41 PM
Silver Nitrate sticks can be hazardous,they are extremely caustic...You HAVE to have a prescription to get them AND only a doctor can apply it.We have a nurse practitioner here that can apply it in a doctors presence.If a nurse were to get caught with something like that in her possession she not only would be arrested,she would also lose her license.She already publicly admitted to taking these home. I just can't understand why they cannot lock her up ??
We are really seeing her true self.Lying,stealing,drug abuse,good Lord she is a mess..Lock her a___  up

I agree.

Apparently ... Clint was aware but failed to report the incident to CPS.  According to Peter Hyatt ... Clint backed down when Billie threatened to report something about a "mushroom" that Hailey observed at his brother's home.

Sometimes I think that the truth regarding a missing little girl is not being revealed because many of the main characters are beholding to one another in regards to aspects encompassing their respective lifestyles.  Something akin to the sibling game we played as kids.  "You tell Mom on me and ... I will tell Mom on you".

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 12:56:29 PM
I'm still having problems getting past this

-snipped

The affidavit also includes a statement from one of Hailey’s uncles, who was talking to Adkins about Hailey’s disappearance. The uncle said he could not believe that anyone would hurt a 13-year-old little girl.

The affidavit reports that Adkins replied, “Yah, it’s like killing a deer.”

The uncle recalled that Adkins often talked about how he kills deer, and then he would cut them up with a chainsaw.

-snipped from http://www.ktxs.com/news/26465402/detail.html

I know this is a rural area, where there would be a lot of hunters, however Shawn doesn't strike me as an avid hunter.  Is there any photos of him in "hunting garb" or with him holding a trophy rack?  Did he not hunt leagally, did he do it just whenever the mood would strike?  Did he stop hunting deer and his insatious desire to kill escalate to humans?  Where is his chainsaw?  I would think he most likely had a "favorite hunting spot."  Does anyone know where this is?  And I guess the biggest question of all is ... Did this conversation really happen in the first place?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 01:03:42 PM
I really wish the released info in the affidavits would have given us an inkling as to the REAL reason David was removed from Billie's custody and care.  We all kow that CPS does not remove siblings from the homes of missing children.  Billie may not know that though, and that may be what they have told her.  But why?  What does David know?  Could he have possibly asked to be removed?  I bet that was an interesting interview between him and LE.  Out of the mouths of "babes"...

The only reason CPS would do that in the case of missing child is if the other siblings were at risk of being in danger still be it stranger or suspected family member.  NOT because anyone was in front of her house yelling obscenities.  The story doesnt hold true because every time we have seen her at the house being interviewed inside or out there hasnt been anyone out there protesting or calling her out of the house, besides NG's producers would have reported on it if for no other reason to add drama to the case coverage...i.e. the Anthonys.

EXACTALY

BINGO~plus if it was voluntary why would she have to sign paperwork?? Another thing she states he is there everyday which I don't believe for a nano-second, but how is that protecting him from hearing the obscentities screamed and CZ her special friend also stated ppl were throwing rocks at the house. I don't believe a word of of her mouth, CZ's, Shawns or frankly anyone that she has doing her dirty work cause we all know she does indeed know what is posted on the net about her.......her story changes accordingly and when everyone heard Clint speak on Blogtalk radio most thought he would be the better "voice" for Hailey and mentioned it all over the net. BAM~next day, Billie goes on and on about how she needs to be Hailey's voice. ::MonkeyTongue::

On a "voluntary" placement with CPS, the custodial parent usually only signs a power of attorney giving the party who takes the child the ability to seek medical treatment for them and to enroll them in school.  That POA is revocable at any time by the parent, hence it isn't worth the paper it is written on.  That is why after my grandson was placed with my voluntarily by his bio father, the bio father was able to come and take him from me (I call it kidnapping), and CPS didn't do anything about it.  The only time CPS can enforce anything is when they go to court and get a judge to sign a removal order.  Then it isn't voluntary. 

Ok~thanks for clearing that up for me.......that does make sense.

No problem, IM.  I have had more experience with TX CPS than I would care to relate and in many different capacities.  The only other caveat is that nothing is set in stone with CPS -- rules and regulations are merely guidelines that they tend to bend to fit whatever situation is in front of them. 

Sadly true, but it doesnt take away from the fact that Billie was confronted that David needed to go elsewhere & the ultimatum was given that he can go voluntarily or they would handle it otherwise...there is no doubt in my mind that is what transpired.  Whatever Billie signed isnt worth the paperwork it is written on without a court order, I agree.  I also have concerns that the placement wont prevent David from getting harmed if one is determined to do so, once again we're left to say "well, at least it is something" which I find inadequate.  In fact, I have to wonder why CPS did not intervene when lives were threatened & numerous 911 calls were made from that house, especially regarding a live-in boyfriend....as far as Im concerned Hailey & David were in danger long before this Christmas.

Unfortunately, thru the years I have seen more times than I can count where "the system" of CPS, DYFUS whatever the State in question refers to child services as fails.   There are just way too many cases, albeit there are standards to be met for all case workers it has been documented how many do not utilize their education & get lazy in the performance of their duties.  To be fair to case workers in another respect, they are overloaded & get burnt out with what they witness...in other words a certain degree of "numbing" occurs which I find to be inexcusable but occurs nonetheless.   There are other hard facts that has been battling "the system" for years & that is there is never enough efficient & safe facilities, the salaries are too low for case workers.  Also, decent foster placement for the amount of cases that present are completely inadequate, not to mention often easily corrupted by equally horrid individuals.   I've exhausted from hearing the excuses as to why parents or guardians are given passes or have had their children returned at the most minor & often temporary improvements with their behavior & life choices.  I'm sick of the guilty party's "rights" and "feelings" being considered above what is truly in the best interest of a child.  Personally, thru the years both in the course of my work career & otherwise I've had significant frustration that this country has its priorities so screwed up that the well-being & safety of our children are not priority number one nor dealt with as strictly as it should be.  Our children are precious innocents & vulnerable.  They are our finest resource in the sense that they carry the future...today we see the damage caused by broken minds & evil souls, if we dont protect our children to the fullest we can only look forward to know the horror will continue but sadly even more frequently.

When is a lack of funds ever going to take a back seat to the life of a child?   My God, cut other programs but not the ones that are supposed to educate & protect our children!  This country was built on sacrifice & human rights, sinfully our children do not benefit daily from that foundation.  When is this country as a whole going to focus on the safety of our children first and foremost over making excuses for those that CHOOSE to conduct themselves in reckless & unacceptable manners?   When will those with bleeding hearts ever wake up and realize that those excuses more often than not allow for repeats of the same reckless behavior & heinous crimes against children?   We have it backwards on a whole, today it is rehabilitation & rights for the guilty first, well-being of the child second....no I say...it should always be the welfare of a child first & possible rehabilitation for the guilty party as a careful & long process consideration but never an automatic given.

OK Im off my soap box but never resigned to accept things as they stand.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 01:06:58 PM
I'm still having problems getting past this

-snipped

The affidavit also includes a statement from one of Hailey’s uncles, who was talking to Adkins about Hailey’s disappearance. The uncle said he could not believe that anyone would hurt a 13-year-old little girl.

The affidavit reports that Adkins replied, “Yah, it’s like killing a deer.”

The uncle recalled that Adkins often talked about how he kills deer, and then he would cut them up with a chainsaw.

-snipped from http://www.ktxs.com/news/26465402/detail.html

I know this is a rural area, where there would be a lot of hunters, however Shawn doesn't strike me as an avid hunter.  Is there any photos of him in "hunting garb" or with him holding a trophy rack?  Did he not hunt leagally, did he do it just whenever the mood would strike?  Did he stop hunting deer and his insatious desire to kill escalate to humans?  Where is his chainsaw?  I would think he most likely had a "favorite hunting spot."  Does anyone know where this is?  And I guess the biggest question of all is ... Did this conversation really happen in the first place?

Better yet, don't you have to have a hunting license in order to hunt? Anybody know? If so, where would one search for such a license?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 01:10:53 PM
Klaas, just to be thorough, I'd like to make note of where Pharris & Walston live(d). Should I place it in docs or pics? I don't think it'll amount to anything, but what if...ya know? Personally, I think they're looking at the right guy, but again just trying to be thorough.

Either in this thread or Docs/Pics is fine.  It is on topic either way and I agree a good thing to save and take note of.

I put it in the pics thread.

Do you happen to know where I could find the original date for Billie to renew her nursing license and then also the date she didn't show up to plead her case in order to keep her nursing license? I literally forget. Last thread or thread before? Maybe I could search a person that posted it, only problem is I forget who posted it...haha.
Her license expired 5-31-2007 Sorry if it has already been posted http://204.65.111.68/THP/jvtltt45klr23sizeyfprub3/613255.PDF third sentence under Charge I  ::MonkeyBike:: BTL JSM

Hold up, the date doesnt seem to reflect Billie's excuse of being in the middle of a divorce & couldnt afford to renew it.   If that "morning math" (I slept late) is correct, what is her excuse now?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 01:12:58 PM
IMO Hailey's entire family is looking a lot like Haleigh's entire family.

I agree.

There are so many common denominators when respective lifestyles choices are taken into consideration ... lifestyles choices that put the well-being of children at risk.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: MuffyBee on February 08, 2011, 01:13:14 PM

Information on Hunting in Texas.  Needless to say, you don't ever, ever want to get hunting illegally, because Game Wardens carry a lot of clout. 

Texas Parks & Wildlife   
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 01:16:07 PM
IMO Hailey's entire family is looking a lot like Haleigh's entire family.

I agree.

There are so many common denominators when respective lifestyles choices are taken into consideration ... lifestyles choices that put the well-being of children at risk.

Janet


That point is inarguable.  Different degrees to Sunday, but inarguable.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Lenie on February 08, 2011, 01:16:11 PM
Not sure of anywhere else, I live in Ohio. When I got custody of our granddaughter the paper that transferred temporary custody said that the parents could not remove the child from the home, school, or anywhere else. We had legal temporary custody and it had to be revoked by DCS.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Serenity on February 08, 2011, 01:22:28 PM
I Live in Indy and just called a CVS and they said you have to have an prescription to get the silver nitrate sticks.maybe this differs in other states ?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: joesamas mama on February 08, 2011, 01:28:53 PM
Klaas, just to be thorough, I'd like to make note of where Pharris & Walston live(d). Should I place it in docs or pics? I don't think it'll amount to anything, but what if...ya know? Personally, I think they're looking at the right guy, but again just trying to be thorough.

Either in this thread or Docs/Pics is fine.  It is on topic either way and I agree a good thing to save and take note of.

I put it in the pics thread.

Do you happen to know where I could find the original date for Billie to renew her nursing license and then also the date she didn't show up to plead her case in order to keep her nursing license? I literally forget. Last thread or thread before? Maybe I could search a person that posted it, only problem is I forget who posted it...haha.
Her license expired 5-31-2007 Sorry if it has already been posted http://204.65.111.68/THP/jvtltt45klr23sizeyfprub3/613255.PDF third sentence under Charge I  ::MonkeyBike:: BTL JSM

Hold up, the date doesnt seem to reflect Billie's excuse of being in the middle of a divorce & couldnt afford to renew it.   If that "morning math" (I slept late) is correct, what is her excuse now?
Capp, I didn't know she said that is the reason she couldn't afford it because of divorce.

I hope I posted the correct date, but that is what is on the Formal Charge from the State Board. If I posted the wrong date, will a Mod please delete my post. TIA JSM


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 01:33:30 PM
Silver Nitrate sticks can be hazardous,they are extremely caustic...You HAVE to have a prescription to get them AND only a doctor can apply it.We have a nurse practitioner here that can apply it in a doctors presence.If a nurse were to get caught with something like that in her possession she not only would be arrested,she would also lose her license.She already publicly admitted to taking these home. I just can't understand why they cannot lock her up ??
We are really seeing her true self.Lying,stealing,drug abuse,good Lord she is a mess..Lock her a___  up

I agree.

Apparently ... Clint was aware but failed to report the incident to CPS.  According to Peter Hyatt ... Clint backed down when Billie threatened to report something about a "mushroom" that Hailey observed at his brother's home.

Sometimes I think that the truth regarding a missing little girl is not being revealed because many of the main characters are beholding to one another in regards to aspects encompassing their respective lifestyles.  Something akin to the sibling game we played as kids.  "You tell Mom on me and ... I will tell Mom on you".

Janet


Janet, I so agree with you on this. BTW, here's the original article where Clint stated Billie basically beat him to CPS:


http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:l7vth1wogvsJ:seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html+EXCLUSIVE:+Billie+Jean+Dunn+Revealed&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

Snip:
Clint said that Billie once took a chemical and burned her own son's back with initials "UFC".

For those of us who don't recognize the letters, (I thought it was USC, as in University of Southern California; perhaps a football reference), it stands for Ultimate Fighting Championship. This may have had to been investigated by child protective services. Clint was going to call CPS when Billie heard of it, so, he said, she called first and reported that Hailey had seen a mushroom at his brother's house. She thought she could be the first to call, to deflect attention away from her.

Billie Dunn scarred by burning her own son's back the words "tap out" with an acid-like chemical after putting in "UFC".



Me: Now of course Billie says it wasn;t her that did this, she informs it was David & his friend that did it to each other. She also informs it wasn't an acid but rather a silver nitrate stick. Well, according to Clint's interview, it was a chemical, and Billie did deny she used acid but I'd like to hear her try to say that silver nitrate isn't a chemical. Last I looked it is: Silver nitrate is an inorganic compound with chemical formula AgNO3. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that Cint didn't go to school to be a lvn and that Billie did, so of course she'd know that a silver nitrate stick is comprised of a chemical compound that could burn the skin, and Clint's choice of chemical/and/or/acid was used by Billie as a play on words. Go figure that Billie said David & his friend did it to each other. Well where did they get the sticks from - from Billie...and where did Billie get 'em from again...oh yeah, the hospital! Pffft...go figure.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 01:34:51 PM

Information on Hunting in Texas.  Needless to say, you don't ever, ever want to get hunting illegally, because Game Wardens carry a lot of clout. 

Texas Parks & Wildlife   
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/



Thank you Muffy!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 01:39:55 PM
Klaas, just to be thorough, I'd like to make note of where Pharris & Walston live(d). Should I place it in docs or pics? I don't think it'll amount to anything, but what if...ya know? Personally, I think they're looking at the right guy, but again just trying to be thorough.

Either in this thread or Docs/Pics is fine.  It is on topic either way and I agree a good thing to save and take note of.

I put it in the pics thread.

Do you happen to know where I could find the original date for Billie to renew her nursing license and then also the date she didn't show up to plead her case in order to keep her nursing license? I literally forget. Last thread or thread before? Maybe I could search a person that posted it, only problem is I forget who posted it...haha.
Her license expired 5-31-2007 Sorry if it has already been posted http://204.65.111.68/THP/jvtltt45klr23sizeyfprub3/613255.PDF third sentence under Charge I  ::MonkeyBike:: BTL JSM

Hold up, the date doesnt seem to reflect Billie's excuse of being in the middle of a divorce & couldnt afford to renew it.   If that "morning math" (I slept late) is correct, what is her excuse now?

Exactly my point! And when you pair it with the pic of Shawn & Billie dated January of 2008, then consider that her license was officially revoked Nov of 2008, then how can Billie think people honestly believe her?

I would seriously like to know if in fact she's still employed by the same hospital that she was working at when her license was revoked, and if so, why haven;t they fired her? If I were a county resident that happened to use that hospital, I'd be calling and complaining every single day. I'd post copies of the affidavits and parcels of transcripts that show Billie changing her stories etc bc there's no way in hello I'd want this chick working on me in an aspect at all...I'd NEVER trust her to take my information whatsoever. Secretary. Med Secs have access to alot of personal info. Forget that!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 01:52:08 PM
Practicing Without a Licence

Why were there no charges levied again Billie for practicing without a licence?

Could it be that the "powers that be" chose to silence the issue to avoid any lawsuits that may be gleaned from any attention?  After all ... the hospital was negligent.  The Records Department were in possession of Billie's records and had a responsibility to assure that all licences pertaining to their nurses were current.

Think about it.  Billie may not be working as a nurse but ... she was been afforded a position within the system.

Janet

+++++++

Hailey Dunn: Unfolding a story of a missing teenager and her family
By Brian Bethel
Published Saturday, January 8, 2011


<snipped>

A search of website publicdata.com reveals no criminal histories for Billie Jean Dunn or for Shawn Adkins. Clint Dunn, however, has multiple arrests, starting in 1994 for burglary of a building, a state jail felony. Following that are subsequent arrests in 1998 for possession of marijuana, under 2 ounces, one in March 1999 for driving with a suspended license.

He was arrested again Jan. 30, 2010, by Snyder police for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces. And he was arrested at his home Dec. 29, again for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces, and a Scurry County warrant.

In 2008, Billie Jean Dunn’s license to practice nursing in the state was revoked by the Texas Board of Nursing. According to the group’s formal charges, Dunn practiced as a vocational nurse without a license from June 1, 2007, to April 20, 2008, while employed at Cogdell Memorial Hospital in Snyder. Board records indicate her license expired May 31, 2007.

Dunn’s conduct “deceived residents, their families, fellow caregivers and the public,” who believed that her practice of nursing was in compliance with the board’s rules and regulations, according to the board’s findings. Dunn was, according to the board, given an opportunity to show compliance with state law to retain her license.

The case was heard in an open meeting in Austin on Nov. 12, 2008. Dunn did not appear, the record says.

<snipped>

http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/08/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/?partner=RSS


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 12, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


<snipped>

DUNN: ... I`m the secretary up there at the hospital. I left about 6:30.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/12/ng.01.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: 4 Donks on February 08, 2011, 01:54:19 PM
I Live in Indy and just called a CVS and they said you have to have an prescription to get the silver nitrate sticks.maybe this differs in other states ?
I know you can buy it online but why pay for it if you can get it for free ?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 02:07:04 PM
I Live in Indy and just called a CVS and they said you have to have an prescription to get the silver nitrate sticks.maybe this differs in other states ?
I know you can buy it online but why pay for it if you can get it for free ?

I will have to listen again.  Did Billie actually say that she took those nitrate sticks from work?

Billie conceded in a NG interview that she did a lot of personal copying at work.  When I consider some of the privileges I was afforded at my workplace ... she may have gotten permission for the copying but ... "nitrate sticks"??

Janet

+++++

Bring Them Home Now EXCLUSIVE Billie Dunn Speaks!
07/02/2011 4:00 PM - 1 hr 31 min
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/08/exclusive-live--billie-dunn-speaks-1


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 08, 2011, 02:32:56 PM

Information on Hunting in Texas.  Needless to say, you don't ever, ever want to get hunting illegally, because Game Wardens carry a lot of clout. 

Texas Parks & Wildlife   
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/



Texas Game Wardens are the only LE agency that can come on your property without a warrant.  Yep, they can be tough. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 08, 2011, 02:42:20 PM
Not sure of anywhere else, I live in Ohio. When I got custody of our granddaughter the paper that transferred temporary custody said that the parents could not remove the child from the home, school, or anywhere else. We had legal temporary custody and it had to be revoked by DCS.

Lennie,

In Texas, the paper says that the parent agrees not to remove the child from the placement and that the parent would complete the parenting plan set up by CPS.  In reality, however, that is not a court order that you have/had.  I had the same paperwork for my grandson and on Christmas Day, at a supervised visitation, his father physically took him back from my arms. 

The police would and will not get involved because it is not a criminal matter without the court order; it is a civil matter.  So if I want to get my grandson back, I have to take bio-dad to court and have the judge grant me custody.  The paperwork that gave me temporary custody was a big bluff, and that is what I told CPS after they refused to take bio-dad to court to have gs returned.  They didn't disagree with my description. 



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 08, 2011, 02:46:13 PM
Quote
Unfortunately, thru the years I have seen more times than I can count where "the system" of CPS, DYFUS whatever the State in question refers to child services as fails.   There are just way too many cases, albeit there are standards to be met for all case workers it has been documented how many do not utilize their education & get lazy in the performance of their duties.  To be fair to case workers in another respect, they are overloaded & get burnt out with what they witness...in other words a certain degree of "numbing" occurs which I find to be inexcusable but occurs nonetheless.   There are other hard facts that has been battling "the system" for years & that is there is never enough efficient & safe facilities, the salaries are too low for case workers.  Also, decent foster placement for the amount of cases that present are completely inadequate, not to mention often easily corrupted by equally horrid individuals.   I've exhausted from hearing the excuses as to why parents or guardians are given passes or have had their children returned at the most minor & often temporary improvements with their behavior & life choices.  I'm sick of the guilty party's "rights" and "feelings" being considered above what is truly in the best interest of a child.  Personally, thru the years both in the course of my work career & otherwise I've had significant frustration that this country has its priorities so screwed up that the well-being & safety of our children are not priority number one nor dealt with as strictly as it should be.  Our children are precious innocents & vulnerable.  They are our finest resource in the sense that they carry the future...today we see the damage caused by broken minds & evil souls, if we dont protect our children to the fullest we can only look forward to know the horror will continue but sadly even more frequently.

When is a lack of funds ever going to take a back seat to the life of a child?   My God, cut other programs but not the ones that are supposed to educate & protect our children!  This country was built on sacrifice & human rights, sinfully our children do not benefit daily from that foundation.  When is this country as a whole going to focus on the safety of our children first and foremost over making excuses for those that CHOOSE to conduct themselves in reckless & unacceptable manners?   When will those with bleeding hearts ever wake up and realize that those excuses more often than not allow for repeats of the same reckless behavior & heinous crimes against children?   We have it backwards on a whole, today it is rehabilitation & rights for the guilty first, well-being of the child second....no I say...it should always be the welfare of a child first & possible rehabilitation for the guilty party as a careful & long process consideration but never an automatic given.

OK Im off my soap box but never resigned to accept things as they stand.

Cappy - I so agree.  You working with CASA have probably some of the same experiences I had when I worked for them.  The law, unfortunately, is reactive not pro-active.  It takes the death or serious injury of a child to get their undivided attention on what their role truly is.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cw618 on February 08, 2011, 03:23:59 PM
Quote
Practicing Without a Licence

Why were there no charges levied again Billie for practicing without a licence?

Could it be that the "powers that be" chose to silence the issue to avoid any lawsuits that may be gleaned from any attention?  After all ... the hospital was negligent.  The Records Department were in possession of Billie's records and had a responsibility to assure that all licences pertaining to their nurses were current.

Think about it.  Billie may not be working as a nurse but ... she was been afforded a position within the system.

Janet

thats a scary thought


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 03:25:39 PM
Quote
Unfortunately, thru the years I have seen more times than I can count where "the system" of CPS, DYFUS whatever the State in question refers to child services as fails.   There are just way too many cases, albeit there are standards to be met for all case workers it has been documented how many do not utilize their education & get lazy in the performance of their duties.  To be fair to case workers in another respect, they are overloaded & get burnt out with what they witness...in other words a certain degree of "numbing" occurs which I find to be inexcusable but occurs nonetheless.   There are other hard facts that has been battling "the system" for years & that is there is never enough efficient & safe facilities, the salaries are too low for case workers.  Also, decent foster placement for the amount of cases that present are completely inadequate, not to mention often easily corrupted by equally horrid individuals.   I've exhausted from hearing the excuses as to why parents or guardians are given passes or have had their children returned at the most minor & often temporary improvements with their behavior & life choices.  I'm sick of the guilty party's "rights" and "feelings" being considered above what is truly in the best interest of a child.  Personally, thru the years both in the course of my work career & otherwise I've had significant frustration that this country has its priorities so screwed up that the well-being & safety of our children are not priority number one nor dealt with as strictly as it should be.  Our children are precious innocents & vulnerable.  They are our finest resource in the sense that they carry the future...today we see the damage caused by broken minds & evil souls, if we dont protect our children to the fullest we can only look forward to know the horror will continue but sadly even more frequently.

When is a lack of funds ever going to take a back seat to the life of a child?   My God, cut other programs but not the ones that are supposed to educate & protect our children!  This country was built on sacrifice & human rights, sinfully our children do not benefit daily from that foundation.  When is this country as a whole going to focus on the safety of our children first and foremost over making excuses for those that CHOOSE to conduct themselves in reckless & unacceptable manners?   When will those with bleeding hearts ever wake up and realize that those excuses more often than not allow for repeats of the same reckless behavior & heinous crimes against children?   We have it backwards on a whole, today it is rehabilitation & rights for the guilty first, well-being of the child second....no I say...it should always be the welfare of a child first & possible rehabilitation for the guilty party as a careful & long process consideration but never an automatic given.

OK Im off my soap box but never resigned to accept things as they stand.

Cappy - I so agree.  You working with CASA have probably some of the same experiences I had when I worked for them.  The law, unfortunately, is reactive not pro-active.  It takes the death or serious injury of a child to get their undivided attention on what their role truly is.

Agreed, and apparently not even then all to often.   Yes, I was a CASA volunteer as well as working in the legal/medical fields in several other capacities thru the years.  Even in my volunteer work in my children's schools, sports, etc. these realities were bluntly put before me.  I've had the first hand experience of intervening as a witnessing citizen more times than I can count including when a child was beaten by a mother's boyfriend with a flashlight, a very young girl sexually assaulted by her own teen brother, a child coming to me because his mother was always passed out on the couch after getting high & he was hungry, reporting a parent for putting cigarette burns in a boy's back (noticed it when swimming at my house after great hesitation to even wanting to get in the pool), my childrens' friends staying at my house for up to two days at a time without even so much as a call from one of their parents to see if they were okay or being told to come home (Ive fed & took care of more than I can count easily), pulling a mother out of my cheerleading practice for continuously verbally accosting her daughter or as President of a Pop Warner football organization removing a father from assaulting his son because he didnt perform well on the field, literally jumping out of a car when I witnessed a mother physically dragging her child across the asphalt of the road simply because he wasn't moving fast enough, a child I watched after school mirroring the behavior in her home by literally attempting to physically assault my daughter (trust me that was dealt with), my son being attacked by a group of young teen thugs when he was in 8th grade in someone's private backyard stealing his brand new official hockey jacket of his favorite team & received significant injury (trust me, that was dealt with by me in a manner one particular judge will never forget)...you name it, its crossed my path & heart.   Some of us can only do so much, many dont do enough at all....and so it continues.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: 4myjoey on February 08, 2011, 03:28:01 PM
Has anyone seen this youtube of Clint smoking dope?

http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DH_W6qHsaT1I%26feature%3Demail


I watched it once, but now it's asking to sign in or sign up.

This content may contain material flagged by YouTube's user community that may be inappropriate for some users.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 03:30:16 PM
(http://i52.tinypic.com/24evyw1.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 08, 2011, 03:32:45 PM
Has anyone seen this youtube of Clint smoking dope?

http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DH_W6qHsaT1I%26feature%3Demail


I watched it once, but now it's asking to sign in or sign up.

This content may contain material flagged by YouTube's user community that may be inappropriate for some users.

I was just going to post it as well.  Looks like Clint to me.  This is from the video:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5292/5429155470_98bed54bdb_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 03:33:11 PM
(http://i52.tinypic.com/24evyw1.jpg)

Beautiful picture...Hailey will always be in our prayers & hearts.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Lenie on February 08, 2011, 03:44:14 PM
If this doesn't work can someone please delete it?  I fixed it - please note "R" rated language.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 03:44:44 PM
Has anyone seen this youtube of Clint smoking dope?

http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DH_W6qHsaT1I%26feature%3Demail


I watched it once, but now it's asking to sign in or sign up.

This content may contain material flagged by YouTube's user community that may be inappropriate for some users.

I was just going to post it as well.  Looks like Clint to me.  This is from the video:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5292/5429155470_98bed54bdb_o.jpg)

Amazing...what I dont understand is why anyone would put this on youtube - craziness


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 03:49:52 PM
Has anyone seen this youtube of Clint smoking dope?

http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DH_W6qHsaT1I%26feature%3Demail


I watched it once, but now it's asking to sign in or sign up.

This content may contain material flagged by YouTube's user community that may be inappropriate for some users.

I was just going to post it as well.  Looks like Clint to me.  This is from the video:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5292/5429155470_98bed54bdb_o.jpg)

Yep, and look who posted it to youtube...thebrownmadman.

Looks like Shawn & his friends & cousin may be at it again.

I read on Peter's blog (comments section) that the reason Clint didn't call in for the second phone interview (when Dr Glass was on) was because Billie's mom posted on Facebook that if Clint airs Billie's dirty laundry, then they'll do the same.

Like we've all said, looks like another HaLeigh Cummings case. Afterall, they were interested in true crime stories. I wonder how much they researched.

Furthermore, I also think that hospitals get money from state taxes. If that's the case, then every single citizen in that county, as well as state, should be complaining about how their money was spent considering Billie Jean Dunn is still employed there. I wouldn't want my money going towards her employment, that's fo sho!

Do we still have that heroin video with Corey & his friend in it, remember they were in a studded house or shed or something? He said originally they'd done heroin or something? Also, Shawn's younger UNDERAGE brother appeared to be getting high in one of the videos, too. His MySpace a/c left alot to be diesired, also, but haven't been back to it since that initial feeling of disgust. Looks like Shawn's whole family & group of skank friends are gonna come out of the woodwork on this one. Just remember - Billie & Shawn did NOTHING in regards to searching for Hailey. That is until good ol' Marc Klaas entered the picture then Billie all of a sudden greeted the searchers...etc. Nice to groom the chick. Too bad she couldn't have been taught proper parenting skills instead.

At least Clint was up front with his drug use.

OMG I can't stand believing this poor lil girl never stood a chance. Where's the flippin' humanity in this world?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 03:56:20 PM
Could this be Shawn's cousing that Hailey had the "hots" for per Shawn?  

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1369971596&sk=friends&v=friends#!/profile.php?id=100000617249246 (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1369971596&sk=friends&v=friends#!/profile.php?id=100000617249246)

I do not know for sure that he is a cousin of Shawns ... nor does he look like he would hurt anyone and according to his info " i couldent hurt a girll ever in my life."

But Hailey did "friend" this person sometime early December.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 03:57:46 PM

Amazing...what I dont understand is why anyone would put this on youtube - craziness


We were all wondering the same thing  when Shawn and Corey's youtube videos were reveals.

Janet




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 04:01:29 PM
LOSERS. ONLY THING THAT COMES TO MIND IS LOSERS. DEAR LORD UP IN HEAVEN couldyoupleasejuststriketheshitouttathemforcryingoutloudalready?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 04:08:12 PM
Maybe Clint was in pain.

Janet

++++

Saturday, February 05, 2011
EXCLUSIVE: Billie Jean Dunn Revealed


by Peter Hyatt

<snipped>

Clint said that Billie was, early on, anti drug, in particular, against his use of marijuana, which he says he takes for pain rather than narcotics. Billie did, however, begin to take hydrocodone when they were together, though she had no pain, and likely increased her drug use greatly in the past two years with Shawn, who she has been with far longer than she likes to report. Just one week after kicking Clint out, Hailey told him that Shawn was spending the night there. He said she took it just "to get high" and didn't need it for any injury or painful condition.

<snipped>

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 04:09:55 PM

Amazing...what I dont understand is why anyone would put this on youtube - craziness


We were all wondering the same thing  when Shawn and Corey's youtube videos were reveals.

Janet

Me included in that Janet...I feel the way I do about the case itself, this being a separate issue



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 04:13:13 PM

Amazing...what I dont understand is why anyone would put this on youtube - craziness


We were all wondering the same thing  when Shawn and Corey's youtube videos were reveals.

Janet




I feel my anger rising the same way it did in HaLeigh's case. The agida is off the hook girl! OMG I seriously wanna knock these people out. Clint smoking weed is one thing, making it into a cross and bowing to it seems to be another. They're in front of doors that look like doors to an establishment, not a home. Nobody is in sight & there's a white frickin truck right there. Is it safe to assume the truck belongs to one or the other, or borrowed? I guess one of them is driving high like that? OMG I wanna claw them both! I literally wanna fight like a girl & claw their faces & pull they're straggly hair right outta their heads.

Where is Hailey Dunn and WTF is wrong with these people to not even consider their children?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 04:15:24 PM
(http://i52.tinypic.com/24evyw1.jpg)

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 04:15:27 PM
Maybe Clint was in pain.

Janet

++++

Saturday, February 05, 2011
EXCLUSIVE: Billie Jean Dunn Revealed


by Peter Hyatt

<snipped>

Clint said that Billie was, early on, anti drug, in particular, against his use of marijuana, which he says he takes for pain rather than narcotics. Billie did, however, begin to take hydrocodone when they were together, though she had no pain, and likely increased her drug use greatly in the past two years with Shawn, who she has been with far longer than she likes to report. Just one week after kicking Clint out, Hailey told him that Shawn was spending the night there. He said she took it just "to get high" and didn't need it for any injury or painful condition.

<snipped>

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html




Janet, I swear to GOD I'm sitting in front of the computer & just choked on snot bc you made me laugh out loud. Gotta blow my nose.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cw618 on February 08, 2011, 04:16:26 PM
is it known when this vid was done,clint looks about the same,not younger or older
more beard and hair
who is the guy he is smoking with


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 04:17:09 PM
IMO Hailey's entire family is looking a lot like Haleigh's entire family.

BUMPED


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 04:18:09 PM
is it known when this vid was done,clint looks about the same,not younger or older
more beard and hair
who is the guy he is smoking with

and he's wearing the same exact thing he was wearing in a picture with david!

the guy he's toking with looks like a flippin crackhead.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 04:18:44 PM
IMO Hailey's entire family is looking a lot like Haleigh's entire family.

BUMPED
and this would be a DOUBLE BUMP


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 04:20:51 PM
Gimme some time bc I swear to GOD I'm gonna find out who Clint was smokin' with and I'm also gonna find out where they were smoking. It looks like an establishment. They mentioned windmills & there's a field with the windmills they were trying to focus in on. It's in Texas bc the guy commented on windmills in Texas. Pfft.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 04:24:17 PM
Is Clint and friend smoking pot or ... it is something else?

Thanks

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: no rose colored glasses on February 08, 2011, 04:33:39 PM
is it known when this vid was done,clint looks about the same,not younger or older
more beard and hair
who is the guy he is smoking with
I don't know who the guy is but he sure looks like a young Iggy Pop  ::MonkeyTongue::  Clint, you keep telling others and yourself that the pot is just for pain, keep saying it over and over  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: joesamas mama on February 08, 2011, 04:37:57 PM
Gimme some time bc I swear to GOD I'm gonna find out who Clint was smokin' with and I'm also gonna find out where they were smoking. It looks like an establishment. They mentioned windmills & there's a field with the windmills they were trying to focus in on. It's in Texas bc the guy commented on windmills in Texas. Pfft.
Not sure what type of windmills you are talking about. If you are talking about the new ones that generate "green energy", Sweetwater has tons of them.

BTL JSM  ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 08, 2011, 04:45:14 PM
is it known when this vid was done,clint looks about the same,not younger or older
more beard and hair
who is the guy he is smoking with

Some guy who's not going to live very long based upon the sound of his cough ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 08, 2011, 04:46:18 PM
Gimme some time bc I swear to GOD I'm gonna find out who Clint was smokin' with and I'm also gonna find out where they were smoking. It looks like an establishment. They mentioned windmills & there's a field with the windmills they were trying to focus in on. It's in Texas bc the guy commented on windmills in Texas. Pfft.
Not sure what type of windmills you are talking about. If you are talking about the new ones that generate "green energy", Sweetwater has tons of them.

BTL JSM  ::MonkeyBike::

Just outside Snyder TX

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azpyRabjdB8


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 04:58:59 PM
is it known when this vid was done,clint looks about the same,not younger or older
more beard and hair
who is the guy he is smoking with

Some guy who's not going to live very long based upon the sound of his cough ::MonkeyNoNo::

My mother who was attractive and ... presented to the world a woman who had it all together ... had 45 year addiction to nicotine when she succumbed to lung cancer at the age of 63.  The world did not hear year and year of her hacking cough for about 15 minutes each morning to clear her lungs but ... her loving husband and three children who adored her did.  The sound of Clint's friend hacking brought back a flood of memories.

Later, Janet
1:55 PM PT


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cookie on February 08, 2011, 05:00:28 PM
goodness..goodness...the longer Hailey is missing, the crappier her home/lifestyle was/is..
it is amazing that she was such a good kid, student, cheerleader, athlete etc...
Kids aren't dumb..they know what is going on...sigh...



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: joesamas mama on February 08, 2011, 05:01:13 PM
Gimme some time bc I swear to GOD I'm gonna find out who Clint was smokin' with and I'm also gonna find out where they were smoking. It looks like an establishment. They mentioned windmills & there's a field with the windmills they were trying to focus in on. It's in Texas bc the guy commented on windmills in Texas. Pfft.
Not sure what type of windmills you are talking about. If you are talking about the new ones that generate "green energy", Sweetwater has tons of them.

BTL JSM  ::MonkeyBike::
Oh, sorry forgot Snyder had them too.

Just outside Snyder TX

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azpyRabjdB8


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 08, 2011, 05:07:02 PM
Has anyone seen this youtube of Clint smoking dope?

http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DH_W6qHsaT1I%26feature%3Demail


I watched it once, but now it's asking to sign in or sign up.

This content may contain material flagged by YouTube's user community that may be inappropriate for some users.

I was just going to post it as well.  Looks like Clint to me.  This is from the video:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5292/5429155470_98bed54bdb_o.jpg)

No doubt it is Clint Dunn

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5172/5428784219_c7cb994bc3.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 08, 2011, 05:10:48 PM
This looks like the same shirt as in the pot smoking video:

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Hailey%20Dunn%20%20-TX-/11911ClintDunnBradDennis.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 05:22:39 PM
This looks like the same shirt as in the pot smoking video:

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Hailey%20Dunn%20%20-TX-/11911ClintDunnBradDennis.jpg)

Yea, it is a good bit worn it appears.   TI believe this pic was taken at the search training location.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 05:37:27 PM
Photo just posted at   http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/photo.php?fbid=150164108375455&set=a.142006855857847.27433.141840975874435 (http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/photo.php?fbid=150164108375455&set=a.142006855857847.27433.141840975874435)

(http://i52.tinypic.com/17cl6s.jpg)
 "I love animals. I'd never hurt an animal." Shawn Adkins


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 05:44:18 PM
The guy in the GETTING HIGH video with Clint Dunn appears to be Brian Glasco.

Here's his original video:
http://www.myspace.com/freaker13/videos

Here's his MySpace a/c:
http://www.myspace.com/freaker13

Here's a couple nice pics of him from his MySpace:

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/brianglasco1.jpg)

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/brianglasco2.jpg)



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 08, 2011, 05:46:27 PM
He seems to have a theme going. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 05:46:31 PM
now lemme find where they were getting high. I swear to god I'm finding it. You can BANK on that.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 05:48:33 PM
-snipped    She even gave us the mystery man's name.

How plausible is this theory?

In naming a relative of Shawn's, sources close to the family tell us that he has not lived in Texas for about a year, and has been already questioned by police.

Brian Glasco was named by Billie last night on a radio show.

Is he the new Cousin' Joe in her quest for a scapegoat?    -snipped

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/billie-and-shawns-mystery-man.html



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 05:53:08 PM
why would a "relative" of Shawns be getting high with Clint???  or maybe we don't wanna know .....  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 05:54:58 PM
Billie's an asslick! She's trying to railroad Clint.

BTW, the video was uploaded December of 2009.

Here's a screencapture:

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/clintbriandec09.jpg)

Again, here's the link:
http://www.myspace.com/freaker13/videos


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 05:55:00 PM
But I thought Clint said the "mystery man" was not questioned by LE ... due to them "twiddling their thumbs" or he's hard to find.

I'm so confused!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 05:55:30 PM
He seems to have a theme going. 

Yea, that fickle finger of filth is getting flipped freely & frequently


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cw618 on February 08, 2011, 05:57:23 PM
i put up a few screen caps of the pot smoking place,not sure if it will help find
hailey, but ya never know, maybe someone will know the place,looks like a
park pking lot,and the glass doors may go to a rest room

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9286.msg1302139#msg1302139


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 06:00:15 PM
-snipped    She even gave us the mystery man's name.

How plausible is this theory?

In naming a relative of Shawn's, sources close to the family tell us that he has not lived in Texas for about a year, and has been already questioned by police.

Brian Glasco was named by Billie last night on a radio show.

Is he the new Cousin' Joe in her quest for a scapegoat?    -snipped

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/billie-and-shawns-mystery-man.html



In a word, YES...no doubt in my mind.   


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 06:08:23 PM
IMO, Billie is like the new Misty, same lolipop guild kid, same drug addled trash pos, same idiotic mentality, no gumption to make something of herself, jeez the list goes on. Even if Billie turns out to be innocent in Hailey's disappearance, she's still a pos imo for her neglectful bad parenting ways. She gave birth to these kids. I said it before - total and complete waste of a uterus. She had no right to become a mother. Mutha is more like it.

Thanks Rick Plesea.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 06:13:44 PM
IMO, Billie is like the new Misty, same lolipop guild kid, same drug addled trash pos, same idiotic mentality, no gumption to make something of herself, jeez the list goes on. Even if Billie turns out to be innocent in Hailey's disappearance, she's still a pos imo for her neglectful bad parenting ways. She gave birth to these kids. I said it before - total and complete waste of a uterus. She had no right to become a mother. Mutha is more like it.

Thanks Rick Plesea.

Huh...Rick Plesea as in the Casey Anthony case, her uncle?  PS I agree Titch, I find Billie to be a lying sack of horse manure & it is of little consequence to me whose hands actually harmed Hailey....to what degree she was harmed is not yet disclosed but I fear it to be the worse case scenario.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 06:16:48 PM
why would a "relative" of Shawns be getting high with Clint???  or maybe we don't wanna know .....  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I do.  It opens another avenue for speculation if there is a drug connection between Clint and a relative of Shawn.

My hinky meter has been on high for some time when I stopped and considered that both Clint and Billie do not focus on the main suspect in the disappearance of their precious daughter despite the affidavits which reveals Shawn's lies/ deception encompassing his actions and whereabouts on the morning of December 27th ... despite Shawn's defamation of Hailey and ... despite LE's claim that there are no confirmed sightings of Hailey on December 37th.

I believe that there is a code of silence that is obstructing the investigation.  It is something akin to the sibling game ... "If you tell Mom on me; I'll tell Mom on you."

In other words ... justice for Hailey is not the issue ... it about Clint protecting self and ... it is about Billie protecting Shawn as well as self.

Think about Billie and David's tattoo.  Why did Clint not follow through on his intentions to report this abuse to CPS?  Who was priority ... David or self?

IMO

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 06:19:46 PM
IMO, Billie is like the new Misty, same lolipop guild kid, same drug addled trash pos, same idiotic mentality, no gumption to make something of herself, jeez the list goes on. Even if Billie turns out to be innocent in Hailey's disappearance, she's still a pos imo for her neglectful bad parenting ways. She gave birth to these kids. I said it before - total and complete waste of a uterus. She had no right to become a mother. Mutha is more like it.

Thanks Rick Plesea.

Huh...Rick Plesea as in the Casey Anthony case, her uncle?  PS I agree Titch, I find Billie to be a lying sack of horse manure & it is of little consequence to me whose hands actually harmed Hailey....to what degree she was harmed is not yet disclosed but I fear it to be the worse case scenario.

Capp, yeah remember when Rick sent that email to Cindy. He said Casey wasn't getting Mother of the Year, Mutha of the Year is more like it.

Personally, I think the boyfriend did something & the mother covered it up. Hope not, though.

Magic 8 Ball says "....."


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 06:22:39 PM
could Brian Glasco be Clint Dunn's brother? ....

Under Clints Facebook Page ...
Family
Malinda Dunn SalazarSister
Mary LaJohnna Cooper Sister

Under Brian's myspace page
mary cooper Happy birthday bro hope u have a most excellent day
· 88 days ago

*icon photos are the same*

Unless she is just generalizing the term "bro"

Mary Coopers daughter made some interesting statements on her FB page though ... one of which being "blowing your brains out and eating a popsicle is all the same to me."  (unless she is referencing song lyrics, which kids do) disturbing to say the least ... LOT'S of reference to drug usage though ...

Oh Dear Hailey ... your entire family ... has failed you in so many ways ... and to see your clean looking, smiling face with your bright eyes and love for music and sports .. you did ... you really did try to overcome the obstacles that your family placed in front of you. ... ~god speed our little friend




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 06:24:22 PM
i put up a few screen caps of the pot smoking place,not sure if it will help find
hailey, but ya never know, maybe someone will know the place,looks like a
park pking lot,and the glass doors may go to a rest room

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9286.msg1302139#msg1302139

At the end of the GETTING HIGH video, where they're trying to focus on the windmills, to the right of the video it looks like a huge greenish stack of some sort. Could this be a power plant or nuclear facility?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 06:28:17 PM

Yep, and look who posted it to youtube...thebrownmadman.

Looks like Shawn & his friends & cousin may be at it again.

I read on Peter's blog (comments section) that the reason Clint didn't call in for the second phone interview (when Dr Glass was on) was because Billie's mom posted on Facebook that if Clint airs Billie's dirty laundry, then they'll do the same.

Like we've all said, looks like another HaLeigh Cummings case. Afterall, they were interested in true crime stories. I wonder how much they researched.

Furthermore, I also think that hospitals get money from state taxes. If that's the case, then every single citizen in that county, as well as state, should be complaining about how their money was spent considering Billie Jean Dunn is still employed there. I wouldn't want my money going towards her employment, that's fo sho!

Do we still have that heroin video with Corey & his friend in it, remember they were in a studded house or shed or something? He said originally they'd done heroin or something? Also, Shawn's younger UNDERAGE brother appeared to be getting high in one of the videos, too. His MySpace a/c left alot to be diesired, also, but haven't been back to it since that initial feeling of disgust. Looks like Shawn's whole family & group of skank friends are gonna come out of the woodwork on this one. Just remember - Billie & Shawn did NOTHING in regards to searching for Hailey. That is until good ol' Marc Klaas entered the picture then Billie all of a sudden greeted the searchers...etc. Nice to groom the chick. Too bad she couldn't have been taught proper parenting skills instead.

At least Clint was up front with his drug use.

OMG I can't stand believing this poor lil girl never stood a chance. Where's the flippin' humanity in this world?

BUMPED


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 06:32:04 PM
why would a "relative" of Shawns be getting high with Clint???  or maybe we don't wanna know .....  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I do.  It opens another avenue for speculation if there is a drug connection between Clint and a relative of Shawn.

My hinky meter has been on high for some time when I stopped and considered that both Clint and Billie do not focus on the main suspect in the disappearance of their precious daughter despite the affidavits which reveals Shawn's lies/ deception encompassing his actions and whereabouts on the morning of December 27th ... despite Shawn's defamation of Hailey and ... despite LE's claim that there are no confirmed sightings of Hailey on December 37th.

I believe that there is a code of silence that is obstructing the investigation.  It is something akin to the sibling game ... "If you tell Mom on me; I'll tell Mom on you."

In other words ... justice for Hailey is not the issue ... it about Clint protecting self and ... it is about Billie protecting Shawn as well as self.

Think about Billie and David's tattoo.  Why did Clint not follow through on his intentions to report this abuse to CPS?  Who was priority ... David or self?

IMO

Janet



I can find no link between Brian Glasco in any form thru relatives facebook pages or Brians myspace pages to Shawn Adkins.  I am not buying into this is Shawns cousin as in the "mystery man" .....  I can tie Brian Glasco together w/Clint Dunn and his family on many accounts but not to Shawn.

Soooo IF Brian Glasco is the "mystery man" could it be that he may have been staying w/Clint at one time and Hailey saw/experienced something with Brian that prompted Billie to call CPS to keep Hailey from going to Clints for visitation?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 08, 2011, 06:39:16 PM
IMO, Billie is like the new Misty, same lolipop guild kid, same drug addled trash pos, same idiotic mentality, no gumption to make something of herself, jeez the list goes on. Even if Billie turns out to be innocent in Hailey's disappearance, she's still a pos imo for her neglectful bad parenting ways. She gave birth to these kids. I said it before - total and complete waste of a uterus. She had no right to become a mother. Mutha is more like it.

Thanks Rick Plesea.

Huh...Rick Plesea as in the Casey Anthony case, her uncle?  PS I agree Titch, I find Billie to be a lying sack of horse manure & it is of little consequence to me whose hands actually harmed Hailey....to what degree she was harmed is not yet disclosed but I fear it to be the worse case scenario.
::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 06:41:19 PM
‎"David WAS NOT given an "acid tattoo". He and his friends used pens that once dipped into water leave ink on your skin. I brought them home from work one day and David and his friend gave themselves fake "tattoos" with these pens. The ink washes off after awhile."~ Billie Dunn
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Hailey-Dunn/141796342544494


So which is it?  Fake tattoo pens w/ink in or silver nitrate sticks? .....


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 08, 2011, 06:42:44 PM
Just posted in Who's Who  ::MonkeyEek::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9319.msg1301916#msg1301916

Wow, found his myspace.  Wow.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 08, 2011, 06:43:53 PM
I just wanted to send Janet hugs.  :)  /hug hug hug hug hug

I just love warm and fuzzies.  A perfect start to my day.

Thanks starwynn.

Janet

 ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 06:46:02 PM
‎"David WAS NOT given an "acid tattoo". He and his friends used pens that once dipped into water leave ink on your skin. I brought them home from work one day and David and his friend gave themselves fake "tattoos" with these pens. The ink washes off after awhile."~ Billie Dunn
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Hailey-Dunn/141796342544494


So which is it?  Fake tattoo pens w/ink in or silver nitrate sticks? .....


She's a liar. I heard it as well as everyone else that listened to her blog radio interview. She said they took the stuff outta her pockets. She's trying to cover her rump. She's trying to mislead the public to create confusion. They, as far as I'm concerned, had all the time in the world to RESEARCH true crime cases. They seem to be feeling their way & going with whatever works. Lying posngsmf.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 08, 2011, 06:46:39 PM
I am a nurse also,and our secretaries do work 12 hr shifts also.Why haven't we heard why Billie has not been arrested for admitting to taking Silver Nitrate from her work? Stealing is stealing,and that's one way to get her in jail,then she wouln't have her drugs to zone her out and maybe LE can get info out of her.


Very good question, now that she's admitted it in public.   There is no reason for a secretary to bring home those items stolen from a hospital, not a nurse either for that matter but she cant even claim that she uses those items in the performance of her duties & had some in her pocket...she really has no filter & is definitely way short of clever.

Did she bring those things homes while she was a secretary, or when she was a nurse though?  The way she said it - that she had them in her pocket - makes it sound "like" she had them there because they were doing some treatment and she didn't restock them.  Not that that's any excuse.  It sounds to me as if this were earlier. 

Personally, I think it's all still hogwash that she just accidentally walked out with them, and somehow her kids just found them and knew what they were, etc.

She's really just never accountable for anything is she?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 06:46:53 PM
Considering what has been revealed today ... somehow I do not think that we have seen the last of videos/documentation that connects the players in the Hailey Dunn case in wrongdoing.  When that happens ... the distancing of Shawn Adkin in the disappearance of Hailey will all make sense.

It is my ongoing hope that law enforcement agencies are seriously advocating on behalf of Hailey with the investigation.  Otherwise ... I fear that justice for Hailey Dunn will forever remain elusive.   

IMO

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 06:48:37 PM
why would a "relative" of Shawns be getting high with Clint???  or maybe we don't wanna know .....  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I do.  It opens another avenue for speculation if there is a drug connection between Clint and a relative of Shawn.

My hinky meter has been on high for some time when I stopped and considered that both Clint and Billie do not focus on the main suspect in the disappearance of their precious daughter despite the affidavits which reveals Shawn's lies/ deception encompassing his actions and whereabouts on the morning of December 27th ... despite Shawn's defamation of Hailey and ... despite LE's claim that there are no confirmed sightings of Hailey on December 37th.

I believe that there is a code of silence that is obstructing the investigation.  It is something akin to the sibling game ... "If you tell Mom on me; I'll tell Mom on you."

In other words ... justice for Hailey is not the issue ... it about Clint protecting self and ... it is about Billie protecting Shawn as well as self.

Think about Billie and David's tattoo.  Why did Clint not follow through on his intentions to report this abuse to CPS?  Who was priority ... David or self?

IMO

Janet



I can find no link between Brian Glasco in any form thru relatives facebook pages or Brians myspace pages to Shawn Adkins.  I am not buying into this is Shawns cousin as in the "mystery man" .....  I can tie Brian Glasco together w/Clint Dunn and his family on many accounts but not to Shawn.

Soooo IF Brian Glasco is the "mystery man" could it be that he may have been staying w/Clint at one time and Hailey saw/experienced something with Brian that prompted Billie to call CPS to keep Hailey from going to Clints for visitation?


Help Find Hailey Dunn
The unexpected may be a person close to the Dunn family. Both Billie and Clinton Dunn said this person is somebody who knows the family well. They said investigators haven't been able to find this person to bring in for questioning.
Hailey's Dad: Yes, There May Be Another Person To Look At
bigcountryhomepage.com
A week after Hailey's mom said there is another person who should be looked at, Clint Dunn reacts.
Sunday at 11:16pm · View Post
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Hailey-Dunn/141796342544494


So where is the speculation that this mystery person is a cousin of Shawns coming from?  Peter Hyatt only?

In naming a relative of Shawn's, sources close to the family tell us that he has not lived in Texas for about a year, and has been already questioned by police.

Brian Glasco was named by Billie last night on a radio show.  -snipped

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/billie-and-shawns-mystery-man.html


Almost makes everything else he has to say questionable at this point ...........





Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 08, 2011, 06:50:47 PM
I'm still having problems getting past this

-snipped

The affidavit also includes a statement from one of Hailey’s uncles, who was talking to Adkins about Hailey’s disappearance. The uncle said he could not believe that anyone would hurt a 13-year-old little girl.

The affidavit reports that Adkins replied, “Yah, it’s like killing a deer.”

The uncle recalled that Adkins often talked about how he kills deer, and then he would cut them up with a chainsaw.

-snipped from http://www.ktxs.com/news/26465402/detail.html

I know this is a rural area, where there would be a lot of hunters, however Shawn doesn't strike me as an avid hunter.  Is there any photos of him in "hunting garb" or with him holding a trophy rack?  Did he not hunt leagally, did he do it just whenever the mood would strike?  Did he stop hunting deer and his insatious desire to kill escalate to humans?  Where is his chainsaw?  I would think he most likely had a "favorite hunting spot."  Does anyone know where this is?  And I guess the biggest question of all is ... Did this conversation really happen in the first place?

Invision, those are all concerns and questions that I, too, share!  I'm glad you brought them up.  I keep thinking about how killers sometimes start on animals, and then move up to what they really hope to do someday.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 06:52:18 PM
‎"David WAS NOT given an "acid tattoo". He and his friends used pens that once dipped into water leave ink on your skin. I brought them home from work one day and David and his friend gave themselves fake "tattoos" with these pens. The ink washes off after awhile."~ Billie Dunn
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Hailey-Dunn/141796342544494


So which is it?  Fake tattoo pens w/ink in or silver nitrate sticks? .....


In Billie Dunn's own words ...


Bring Them Home Now EXCLUSIVE Billie Dunn Speaks!
07/02/2011 4:00 PM - 1 hr 31 min


http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/08/exclusive-live--billie-dunn-speaks-1


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 08, 2011, 06:52:37 PM
Rebecca Powers KTAB will be covering Law Enforcement's reaction to Shawn Adkins interview, tonight @ 6PM
38 minutes ago

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Hailey-Dunn/141796342544494 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Hailey-Dunn/141796342544494)


KTAB = http://bigcountryhomepage.com/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 08, 2011, 06:53:09 PM
I think Billie is saying or trying to state that Clint's Half Brother Brian is the "someone" LE wants to speak to, but I also thought she stated LE couldn't find him? Surely Connie (Clint's mother) knows where he is and that video looks relatively recent so not sure I am buying the new "cousin joe did it" ::MonkeyTongue:: I swear I feel like I am watching scenes from Satsuma again......



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 06:56:13 PM
why would a "relative" of Shawns be getting high with Clint???  or maybe we don't wanna know .....  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I do.  It opens another avenue for speculation if there is a drug connection between Clint and a relative of Shawn.

My hinky meter has been on high for some time when I stopped and considered that both Clint and Billie do not focus on the main suspect in the disappearance of their precious daughter despite the affidavits which reveals Shawn's lies/ deception encompassing his actions and whereabouts on the morning of December 27th ... despite Shawn's defamation of Hailey and ... despite LE's claim that there are no confirmed sightings of Hailey on December 37th.

I believe that there is a code of silence that is obstructing the investigation.  It is something akin to the sibling game ... "If you tell Mom on me; I'll tell Mom on you."

In other words ... justice for Hailey is not the issue ... it about Clint protecting self and ... it is about Billie protecting Shawn as well as self.

Think about Billie and David's tattoo.  Why did Clint not follow through on his intentions to report this abuse to CPS?  Who was priority ... David or self?

IMO

Janet



I can find no link between Brian Glasco in any form thru relatives facebook pages or Brians myspace pages to Shawn Adkins.  I am not buying into this is Shawns cousin as in the "mystery man" .....  I can tie Brian Glasco together w/Clint Dunn and his family on many accounts but not to Shawn.

Soooo IF Brian Glasco is the "mystery man" could it be that he may have been staying w/Clint at one time and Hailey saw/experienced something with Brian that prompted Billie to call CPS to keep Hailey from going to Clints for visitation?


Help Find Hailey Dunn
The unexpected may be a person close to the Dunn family. Both Billie and Clinton Dunn said this person is somebody who knows the family well. They said investigators haven't been able to find this person to bring in for questioning.
Hailey's Dad: Yes, There May Be Another Person To Look At
bigcountryhomepage.com
A week after Hailey's mom said there is another person who should be looked at, Clint Dunn reacts.
Sunday at 11:16pm · View Post
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Hailey-Dunn/141796342544494


So where is the speculation that this mystery person is a cousin of Shawns coming from?  Peter Hyatt only?

In naming a relative of Shawn's, sources close to the family tell us that he has not lived in Texas for about a year, and has been already questioned by police.

Brian Glasco was named by Billie last night on a radio show.  -snipped

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/billie-and-shawns-mystery-man.html


Almost makes everything else he has to say questionable at this point ...........





Why does everything he has said have to be questionable? Billie is the one sending people all over the place. Seems like she's spending mucho time to railroad everyone but Shawn, whom she keeps sticking up for, and at the same time doesn't even search for her daughter.

If it were my daughter, I'd be pounding the pavement til I found her. I'm not even joking.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 06:58:52 PM
OMG they're so despicable...but I still think Clint's innocent in Hailey's disappearance.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 07:02:17 PM
I am a nurse also,and our secretaries do work 12 hr shifts also.Why haven't we heard why Billie has not been arrested for admitting to taking Silver Nitrate from her work? Stealing is stealing,and that's one way to get her in jail,then she wouln't have her drugs to zone her out and maybe LE can get info out of her.


Very good question, now that she's admitted it in public.   There is no reason for a secretary to bring home those items stolen from a hospital, not a nurse either for that matter but she cant even claim that she uses those items in the performance of her duties & had some in her pocket...she really has no filter & is definitely way short of clever.

Did she bring those things homes while she was a secretary, or when she was a nurse though?  The way she said it - that she had them in her pocket - makes it sound "like" she had them there because they were doing some treatment and she didn't restock them.  Not that that's any excuse.  It sounds to me as if this were earlier. 

Personally, I think it's all still hogwash that she just accidentally walked out with them, and somehow her kids just found them and knew what they were, etc.

She's really just never accountable for anything is she?

Actually, it doesnt matter if she brought them home as a nurse or secretary, they should have never been in her pocket to come home with.   Considering she didnt renew her license in 2007 & was formally charged in 2008, I'd go with she was a secretary at the time & had absolutely NO business having that in her pocket.  That being said, I don't believe a word out of her mouth.   If she thinks that reasonable people are that naive to believe she just so happened to have that in her pocket & she is excusing her son of in essence stealing them out of her pocket to do that to himself, she's sorely mistaken.   How did David know they were in there even?  Why would Clint need to lie over that incident?  Is she saying her son has the habit of rifling thru other people's pockets?   Why is it always someone else's fault with this chick?    Its the same ole thing...Hailey didnt call to tell her where she was, Hailey gave her grief over Shawn, David stole from her pockets...next we'll hear it was Hailey's fault she got murdered  ::MonkeyMad::

This beeotch has NO sense of responsibility or accounting for her negligence or bad acts, NONE.  I've been well beyond her excuses the first week this case broke.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 07:03:31 PM
Rebecca Powers KTAB will be covering Law Enforcement's reaction to Shawn Adkins interview, tonight @ 6PM
38 minutes ago

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Hailey-Dunn/141796342544494 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Hailey-Dunn/141796342544494)


KTAB = http://bigcountryhomepage.com/


Tks Klaas, I know what mine was & that was he was falling all over his own words & hiding behind shades to cover those lying eyes.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 07:06:33 PM
OMG they're so despicable...but I still think Clint's innocent in Hailey's disappearance.

... and I believe Billie is innocent in regards to the actual happenings encompassing the disappearance of her daughter.

Nevertheless ... there appears to be respective underlying issues why Clint and Billie do not focus suspicion on the main suspect.  They both divert attention to scenarios and persons other than Shawn.  What is wrong with this picture?

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 07:07:03 PM
-snipped to save space

Why does everything he has said have to be questionable? Billie is the one sending people all over the place. Seems like she's spending mucho time to railroad everyone but Shawn, whom she keeps sticking up for, and at the same time doesn't even search for her daughter.

If it were my daughter, I'd be pounding the pavement til I found her. I'm not even joking.


Titch ... I am an AVID reader of Peters and have been for many years, however, I think he has "recently" taken a few liberties with his "facts".  (on a few stories) All I am saying is all info I have found is that Brian is related to Clint and not Shawn.  IF he is going to make such a bold statement as stating that Brian is a relative of Shawn's ... well .. that in itself is misleading .... trust me ... I find his FACTS of his analysis fascinating, and will continue to read for his breakdown of such ... however, I think I will stick to Nancy Grace for the sensationalism.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cw618 on February 08, 2011, 07:07:15 PM
i put up a few screen caps of the pot smoking place,not sure if it will help find
hailey, but ya never know, maybe someone will know the place,looks like a
park pking lot,and the glass doors may go to a rest room

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9286.msg1302139#msg1302139

At the end of the GETTING HIGH video, where they're trying to focus on the windmills, to the right of the video it looks like a huge greenish stack of some sort. Could this be a power plant or nuclear facility?

i went looking for the tower looking thing and found this site

Texas Landmarks - Mitchell County

TXGenWeb Project
Mitchell County - TXGenWeb County Index
Mitchell County, Texas - Index of Landmarks & Vanished Communities

http://www.txgenweb9.org/landmarks/mitchell.htm

latitude 322315N longitude 1005333W


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 08, 2011, 07:11:57 PM
Finally~the raw interview of SA on KTAB.....


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339746


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 08, 2011, 07:12:28 PM
Has anyone seen this youtube of Clint smoking dope?

http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DH_W6qHsaT1I%26feature%3Demail


I watched it once, but now it's asking to sign in or sign up.

This content may contain material flagged by YouTube's user community that may be inappropriate for some users.

I was just going to post it as well.  Looks like Clint to me.  This is from the video:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5292/5429155470_98bed54bdb_o.jpg)

Yep, and look who posted it to youtube...thebrownmadman.

Looks like Shawn & his friends & cousin may be at it again.

I read on Peter's blog (comments section) that the reason Clint didn't call in for the second phone interview (when Dr Glass was on) was because Billie's mom posted on Facebook that if Clint airs Billie's dirty laundry, then they'll do the same.

Like we've all said, looks like another HaLeigh Cummings case. Afterall, they were interested in true crime stories. I wonder how much they researched.

Furthermore, I also think that hospitals get money from state taxes. If that's the case, then every single citizen in that county, as well as state, should be complaining about how their money was spent considering Billie Jean Dunn is still employed there. I wouldn't want my money going towards her employment, that's fo sho!

Do we still have that heroin video with Corey & his friend in it, remember they were in a studded house or shed or something? He said originally they'd done heroin or something? Also, Shawn's younger UNDERAGE brother appeared to be getting high in one of the videos, too. His MySpace a/c left alot to be diesired, also, but haven't been back to it since that initial feeling of disgust. Looks like Shawn's whole family & group of skank friends are gonna come out of the woodwork on this one. Just remember - Billie & Shawn did NOTHING in regards to searching for Hailey. That is until good ol' Marc Klaas entered the picture then Billie all of a sudden greeted the searchers...etc. Nice to groom the chick. Too bad she couldn't have been taught proper parenting skills instead.

At least Clint was up front with his drug use.

OMG I can't stand believing this poor lil girl never stood a chance. Where's the flippin' humanity in this world?

I'm sorry but they all just disgust me; they're idiots.  :(


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 07:13:30 PM
Finally~the raw interview of SA on KTAB.....


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339746

Thanks IM

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 07:14:19 PM
-snipped to save space

Why does everything he has said have to be questionable? Billie is the one sending people all over the place. Seems like she's spending mucho time to railroad everyone but Shawn, whom she keeps sticking up for, and at the same time doesn't even search for her daughter.

If it were my daughter, I'd be pounding the pavement til I found her. I'm not even joking.


Titch ... I am an AVID reader of Peters and have been for many years, however, I think he has "recently" taken a few liberties with his "facts".  (on a few stories) All I am saying is all info I have found is that Brian is related to Clint and not Shawn.  IF he is going to make such a bold statement as stating that Brian is a relative of Shawn's ... well .. that in itself is misleading .... trust me ... I find his FACTS of his analysis fascinating, and will continue to read for his breakdown of such ... however, I think I will stick to Nancy Grace for the sensationalism.

Oh yeah, I totally agree with you. I was just thinking that not everything in his blog should be questionable bc in all honesty I myself could need therapy after following this case. Billie is ridiculous. It's enough to drive someone bonkers. For all we know, they could all be related somehow. It's just that she changes her story so much that it's frustrating. Maybe he made a mistake in jumping too fast to type it out. Let's figure it out then send him the post correcting it. I respect his site, although I don't necessarily agree 100% with his analysis all the time. I definitely find it fascinating.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 07:17:02 PM
Finally~the raw interview of SA on KTAB.....


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339746

Thanks IM

Janet

 ::MonkeyShocked::

I can't access.  If a Monkey would provide me/us with an overview ... it would sure be appreciated.

Thanks

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 07:21:21 PM

I'm sorry but they all just disgust me; they're idiots.  :(


Hailey Dunn never stood a chance.

When all that has been revealed is considered ... I do not think there is one Monkey on this forum who would permit his/her child/grandchild to spend one night in either Clint or Billie's home.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 08, 2011, 07:22:33 PM
Finally~the raw interview of SA on KTAB.....


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339746

Thanks IM

Janet

 ::MonkeyShocked::

I can't access.  If a Monkey would provide me/us with an overview ... it would sure be appreciated.

Thanks

Janet

I would but IIRC these vids can't be embedded and it's over 9 minutes long....maybe soemone will put up a transcript.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 07:24:02 PM
Finally~the raw interview of SA on KTAB.....


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339746

Thanks IM

Janet

 ::MonkeyShocked::

I can't access.  If a Monkey would provide me/us with an overview ... it would sure be appreciated.

Thanks

Janet

I would but IIRC these vids can't be embedded and it's over 9 minutes long....maybe soemone will put up a transcript.

Hopefully ... I transcript will emerge.

Thanks

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 07:24:45 PM
-snipped to save space

Why does everything he has said have to be questionable? Billie is the one sending people all over the place. Seems like she's spending mucho time to railroad everyone but Shawn, whom she keeps sticking up for, and at the same time doesn't even search for her daughter.

If it were my daughter, I'd be pounding the pavement til I found her. I'm not even joking.


Titch ... I am an AVID reader of Peters and have been for many years, however, I think he has "recently" taken a few liberties with his "facts".  (on a few stories) All I am saying is all info I have found is that Brian is related to Clint and not Shawn.  IF he is going to make such a bold statement as stating that Brian is a relative of Shawn's ... well .. that in itself is misleading .... trust me ... I find his FACTS of his analysis fascinating, and will continue to read for his breakdown of such ... however, I think I will stick to Nancy Grace for the sensationalism.

Oh yeah, I totally agree with you. I was just thinking that not everything in his blog should be questionable bc in all honesty I myself could need therapy after following this case. Billie is ridiculous. It's enough to drive someone bonkers. For all we know, they could all be related somehow. It's just that she changes her story so much that it's frustrating. Maybe he made a mistake in jumping too fast to type it out. Let's figure it out then send him the post correcting it. I respect his site, although I don't necessarily agree 100% with his analysis all the time. I definitely find it fascinating.

It is fascinating no doubt!  YES, Billie does/has/is/and will continue to change her story whenever it tends to get a bit too close for comfort. (IMO)  I would hate to see, what I consider a credible, reputable blogger discredited due to his own need to interject himself too deep into a story.  I am afraid his small inconsistencies will make Billie look more credible in the long run.  I know the Find Hailey Dunn site is "challenging" him to show proof where Billie said she watched the ball drop on New Years Eve as he claims she has said.  UGH ... I hope he chooses to just stick to what he does best.

And for the record ... I agree ... I would not rest, sleep, eat if my child/grandchild was missing ... I would like to think I would just walk circles around the block looking for something ... anything to help me find her.  I can tell you my arse would NOT be on the couch waiting for a call and watching tv.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 07:28:12 PM
‎"David WAS NOT given an "acid tattoo". He and his friends used pens that once dipped into water leave ink on your skin. I brought them home from work one day and David and his friend gave themselves fake "tattoos" with these pens. The ink washes off after awhile."~ Billie Dunn
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Hailey-Dunn/141796342544494


So which is it?  Fake tattoo pens w/ink in or silver nitrate sticks? .....


In Billie Dunn's own words ...


Bring Them Home Now EXCLUSIVE Billie Dunn Speaks!
07/02/2011 4:00 PM - 1 hr 31 min


http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/08/exclusive-live--billie-dunn-speaks-1


I cannot forward this video.  Could somebody confirm what Billie said in the intervew regarding what was used to create the tattoo and who did it.

Thanks

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 08, 2011, 07:30:21 PM
(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii302/vwaltman/122419.jpg)

Does anyone notice the body language in this picture?  This is not the first time I have seen this in when these three are pictured together.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 07:42:15 PM
(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii302/vwaltman/122419.jpg)

Does anyone notice the body language in this picture?  This is not the first time I have seen this in when these three are pictured together.

Possessive and controlling grasp by Shawn to Billie.  Hailey detached from both of them.   She is sitting right next to her own mother forcing a smile & yet Billie doesnt have a finger on her in any sort of warm embrace.  Hailey isnt reaching out to her mother either, look how close their hands are to each other & yet no contact.   Normally, a bond such as mother/daughter would be prominent despite the other parties in the picture.   Billie has a vacant look on her face, being that this is Christmas, it appears even more peculiar.   Shawn's smirk seems to indicate that he feels satisfied that he is getting his way.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cadillac on February 08, 2011, 07:42:53 PM
Is this a drug deal gone bad?  Revenge?  So many similarities of the cummings case.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 07:45:09 PM
Is this a drug deal gone bad?  Revenge?  So many similarities of the cummings case.

I actually feel that it may be more about jealousy, possession & control...although drugs could also be a factor.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 08, 2011, 07:45:16 PM
And look at the woman sitting at the table.  Was this photo taken at Billie's moms house?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 07:49:24 PM
And look at the woman sitting at the table.  Was this photo taken at Billie's moms house?

I believe it is her mother...I seem to recall that they said something about her mother but would have to go digging.   The picture is marked Christmas so it had to be earlier in the day because we know that Hailey spent the day with her father & stayed overnight until the next day when Billie had her "small dinner."


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 08, 2011, 07:49:42 PM
And look at the woman sitting at the table.  Was this photo taken at Billie's moms house?

Not sure.  I got it from a link from the Help Find Hailey Dunn FB

And Cappy -- Bingo, you go to the front of the class with your insightful (IMHO) observations.   ::rhino::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: joesamas mama on February 08, 2011, 07:49:53 PM
(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii302/vwaltman/122419.jpg)

Does anyone notice the body language in this picture?  This is not the first time I have seen this in when these three are pictured together.
What I notice the most are Billie's eyes... her pupils are HUGE. Could be from the camera flash , but the way her eyes are bugging out, makes me think she is on something. JMO JSM BTL  ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 08, 2011, 07:51:24 PM
And look at the woman sitting at the table.  Was this photo taken at Billie's moms house?

Not sure.  I got it from a link from the Help Find Hailey Dunn FB

And Cappy -- Bingo, you go to the front of the class with your insightful (IMHO) observations.   ::rhino::

Oopsss forgot the link  http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CQELUnCfhO0/TVEjdFGyT9I/AAAAAAAAB1M/WLEc9G9GvTE/s1600/haileyslide1%5B1%5D.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CQELUnCfhO0/TVEjdFGyT9I/AAAAAAAAB1M/WLEc9G9GvTE/s1600/haileyslide1%5B1%5D.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 08, 2011, 07:56:13 PM
why would a "relative" of Shawns be getting high with Clint???  or maybe we don't wanna know .....  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I do.  It opens another avenue for speculation if there is a drug connection between Clint and a relative of Shawn.

My hinky meter has been on high for some time when I stopped and considered that both Clint and Billie do not focus on the main suspect in the disappearance of their precious daughter despite the affidavits which reveals Shawn's lies/ deception encompassing his actions and whereabouts on the morning of December 27th ... despite Shawn's defamation of Hailey and ... despite LE's claim that there are no confirmed sightings of Hailey on December 37th.

I believe that there is a code of silence that is obstructing the investigation.  It is something akin to the sibling game ... "If you tell Mom on me; I'll tell Mom on you."

In other words ... justice for Hailey is not the issue ... it about Clint protecting self and ... it is about Billie protecting Shawn as well as self.

Think about Billie and David's tattoo.  Why did Clint not follow through on his intentions to report this abuse to CPS?  Who was priority ... David or self?

IMO

Janet



I can find no link between Brian Glasco in any form thru relatives facebook pages or Brians myspace pages to Shawn Adkins.  I am not buying into this is Shawns cousin as in the "mystery man" .....  I can tie Brian Glasco together w/Clint Dunn and his family on many accounts but not to Shawn.

Soooo IF Brian Glasco is the "mystery man" could it be that he may have been staying w/Clint at one time and Hailey saw/experienced something with Brian that prompted Billie to call CPS to keep Hailey from going to Clints for visitation?


Help Find Hailey Dunn
The unexpected may be a person close to the Dunn family. Both Billie and Clinton Dunn said this person is somebody who knows the family well. They said investigators haven't been able to find this person to bring in for questioning.
Hailey's Dad: Yes, There May Be Another Person To Look At
bigcountryhomepage.com
A week after Hailey's mom said there is another person who should be looked at, Clint Dunn reacts.
Sunday at 11:16pm · View Post
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Hailey-Dunn/141796342544494


So where is the speculation that this mystery person is a cousin of Shawns coming from?  Peter Hyatt only?

In naming a relative of Shawn's, sources close to the family tell us that he has not lived in Texas for about a year, and has been already questioned by police.

Brian Glasco was named by Billie last night on a radio show.  -snipped

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/billie-and-shawns-mystery-man.html


Almost makes everything else he has to say questionable at this point ...........





Intellius lists Brian Keith Glasco as a "relative" to Cindy L. Stewart, listing in Snyder and Abilene, Tx, but doesn't list any other states.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 07:56:15 PM
Finally~the raw interview of SA on KTAB.....


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339746

Thanks IM

Janet

 ::MonkeyShocked::

I can't access.  If a Monkey would provide me/us with an overview ... it would sure be appreciated.

Thanks

Janet

I would but IIRC these vids can't be embedded and it's over 9 minutes long....maybe soemone will put up a transcript.

It is extremely worthy to note that Shawn states in this interview that he went to work, he quit his job, turned in his belongings, but he didnt speak to "nobody" at work.

How the H do you quit a job without notifying anyone specifically?    How convenient he didnt talk to anyone, right?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cw618 on February 08, 2011, 07:58:47 PM
The second part of her interview will air during KTAB News at 10 p.m. on Tuesday.   Part II of the raw interview, to be released at noon on Wednesday, covers the topics of Adkins' relationship with Billie and Hailey and Adkins' interest in horror movies and murder stories.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339746


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 08:00:21 PM
Just posted in Who's Who  ::MonkeyEek::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9319.msg1301916#msg1301916

Thanks, Klaas. I was in the middle of a post & my restarted. Weird.

Anyway, look at the date on the picture. Jan 13, 2008? Really? I thought Billie & Clint have only been seperated for 2.5 years...hmmm...last I looked it's now 2011 so that makes the date of this picture 3 years. Could they have been having an affair?

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5020/5427869953_0b567cf199_o.jpg)


According to Billie's blog interview on Bring Them Home Now, the interviewer asks Billie how long she & Shawn have been together and Billie's response is 2 & a 1/2 years. Well, the interview is from 2/7/11. According to the picture date stamped above, Billie and Shawn have been together at least 3 years & a month respectively. IMO, you cannot confuse 2.5 years with 3! 6 or 7 months difference is a considerable amount of time.

Here's the link & start at time 21:45

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/08/exclusive-live--billie-dunn-speaks-1


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 08, 2011, 08:02:29 PM
I am a nurse also,and our secretaries do work 12 hr shifts also.Why haven't we heard why Billie has not been arrested for admitting to taking Silver Nitrate from her work? Stealing is stealing,and that's one way to get her in jail,then she wouln't have her drugs to zone her out and maybe LE can get info out of her.


Very good question, now that she's admitted it in public.   There is no reason for a secretary to bring home those items stolen from a hospital, not a nurse either for that matter but she cant even claim that she uses those items in the performance of her duties & had some in her pocket...she really has no filter & is definitely way short of clever.

Did she bring those things homes while she was a secretary, or when she was a nurse though?  The way she said it - that she had them in her pocket - makes it sound "like" she had them there because they were doing some treatment and she didn't restock them.  Not that that's any excuse.  It sounds to me as if this were earlier. 

Personally, I think it's all still hogwash that she just accidentally walked out with them, and somehow her kids just found them and knew what they were, etc.

She's really just never accountable for anything is she?

Actually, it doesnt matter if she brought them home as a nurse or secretary, they should have never been in her pocket to come home with.   Considering she didnt renew her license in 2007 & was formally charged in 2008, I'd go with she was a secretary at the time & had absolutely NO business having that in her pocket.  That being said, I don't believe a word out of her mouth.   If she thinks that reasonable people are that naive to believe she just so happened to have that in her pocket & she is excusing her son of in essence stealing them out of her pocket to do that to himself, she's sorely mistaken.   How did David know they were in there even?  Why would Clint need to lie over that incident?  Is she saying her son has the habit of rifling thru other people's pockets?   Why is it always someone else's fault with this chick?    Its the same ole thing...Hailey didnt call to tell her where she was, Hailey gave her grief over Shawn, David stole from her pockets...next we'll hear it was Hailey's fault she got murdered  ::MonkeyMad::

This beeotch has NO sense of responsibility or accounting for her negligence or bad acts, NONE.  I've been well beyond her excuses the first week this case broke.

Well you know, the more I think about it, the more it seems that she even threw David under the bus on this one.  David got them out of her pocket, David and friend did it to themselves by her insinuations.  Is no one safe from the buses? 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 08, 2011, 08:07:44 PM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 08:11:38 PM
Just hang on one dang minute here

Billie claimed during her pressure that she knew Shawn wanted to quit his job (so she says) BUT in this interview Shawn said he was honest with police but lied to Billie so it didnt cause a big fight he wanted "to keep the peace," he didnt want to disrupt the peace that was happening the last 6 months or so     So if according to Billie she knew he wanted to quit why did he have to lie?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 08, 2011, 08:11:51 PM

I'm sorry but they all just disgust me; they're idiots.  :(


Hailey Dunn never stood a chance.

When all that has been revealed is considered ... I do not think there is one Monkey on this forum who would permit his/her child/grandchild to spend one night in either Clint or Billie's home.

Janet

And frankly, that guy who is smoking the cross joint with Clint in that video - he just terrifies me.  I wouldn't let my child walk on the same side of the street as him.  SA looks more safe at first glance, but a look into his, Billy's brother's, SA's cousins interests - and we keep seeing the same thing over and over again:  gore, and disemboweled blonde girl victim graphics.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 08, 2011, 08:12:56 PM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

Ohhhh ffs!!  :(


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 08, 2011, 08:15:53 PM
(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii302/vwaltman/122419.jpg)

Does anyone notice the body language in this picture?  This is not the first time I have seen this in when these three are pictured together.
What I notice the most are Billie's eyes... her pupils are HUGE. Could be from the camera flash , but the way her eyes are bugging out, makes me think she is on something. JMO JSM BTL  ::MonkeyBike::

OOOoo..look at the couch itself.  This can't be a BJD's house because they didn't get a "leather" couch until the other one, that Hailey slept on, had been disposed of.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 08:21:13 PM

I'm sorry but they all just disgust me; they're idiots.  :(


Hailey Dunn never stood a chance.

When all that has been revealed is considered ... I do not think there is one Monkey on this forum who would permit his/her child/grandchild to spend one night in either Clint or Billie's home.

Janet

And frankly, that guy who is smoking the cross joint with Clint in that video - he just terrifies me.  I wouldn't let my child walk on the same side of the street as him.  SA looks more safe at first glance, but a look into his, Billy's brother's, SA's cousins interests - and we keep seeing the same thing over and over again:  gore, and disemboweled blonde girl victim graphics.

Call me crazy but he just looks like a typical death metal pothead to me. Scary, but typical pothead, loves his weed, etc.

I know I must be nuts. I distance myself from those types.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 08:24:08 PM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?


IM, your new picture is beautiful.

Re the info supplied above, similar to what Clint said:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:l7vth1wogvsJ:seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html+EXCLUSIVE:+Billie+Jean+Dunn+Revealed&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

Snip:
While with Shawn, Clint learned that she had a clever way as to how to pay the rent.

Billie thought she'd pay rent and some other bills in a way that had become familiar to her:

She bought cocaine.

She was pretty sure she had been ripped off by the dealer, but had gone home with it, "quartered it" for sales, and was set to make money.

She left it home and went out, but when she returned, she found that Shawn had taken all four quarters and snorted it up his nose; every last bit of it.

Shawn put Shawn's desire to get high over her desire to make money.

This may be an indication as to why Shawn rolled over and gave the police plenty of information for the affidavit. The instability that goes along with addiction is evident.

Billie fumed and broke up with him. It is one thing to threaten Hailey, but quite another to blow her drugs that were meant for sale.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 08:27:43 PM
^^^^ things that make you go hmmmmm


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 08, 2011, 08:31:29 PM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?


IM, your new picture is beautiful.

Re the info supplied above, similar to what Clint said:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:l7vth1wogvsJ:seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html+EXCLUSIVE:+Billie+Jean+Dunn+Revealed&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

Snip:
While with Shawn, Clint learned that she had a clever way as to how to pay the rent.

Billie thought she'd pay rent and some other bills in a way that had become familiar to her:

She bought cocaine.

She was pretty sure she had been ripped off by the dealer, but had gone home with it, "quartered it" for sales, and was set to make money.

She left it home and went out, but when she returned, she found that Shawn had taken all four quarters and snorted it up his nose; every last bit of it.

Shawn put Shawn's desire to get high over her desire to make money.

This may be an indication as to why Shawn rolled over and gave the police plenty of information for the affidavit. The instability that goes along with addiction is evident.

Billie fumed and broke up with him. It is one thing to threaten Hailey, but quite another to blow her drugs that were meant for sale.



Thanks, that is the symbol for my son and his two friends who raise money for St. Jude, TES and The Gulf Coast House for neglected and abused kids, they call it "I Believe".....

Could very well be, of course the other info in there boggle my mind and confirms Satsuma is not a once in a lifetime anomoly ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: curiousone on February 08, 2011, 08:33:40 PM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?


WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!  That's some heavy stuff if true.  And, quite frankly, many of the rumors going around so far have been true.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 08, 2011, 08:36:40 PM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?


WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!  That's some heavy stuff if true.  And, quite frankly, many of the rumors going around so far have been true.

I know, I almost passed out.....but then I read the new article at KTAB. I really am lost now ::MonkeyShocked::


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339996


As the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance ends his silence, Hailey's father has something to say about Shawn Adkins.

"Instead of spending money on a lawyer he needs to spend money on trying to find Hailey," said Clint Dunn.

Adkins, Hailey's mother's once live-in boyfriend told KTAB in an exclusive interview that he maintains his innocence, and Clint says although he believes Adkins is sincere.

"He needs to help find Hailey," said Clint, "so he can get the heat off of him."

<snip>

More at link ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 08:38:53 PM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?


WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!  That's some heavy stuff if true.  And, quite frankly, many of the rumors going around so far have been true.

I know, I almost passed out.....but then I read the new article at KTAB. I really am lost now ::MonkeyShocked::


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339996


As the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance ends his silence, Hailey's father has something to say about Shawn Adkins.

"Instead of spending money on a lawyer he needs to spend money on trying to find Hailey," said Clint Dunn.

Adkins, Hailey's mother's once live-in boyfriend told KTAB in an exclusive interview that he maintains his innocence, and Clint says although he believes Adkins is sincere.

"He needs to help find Hailey," said Clint, "so he can get the heat off of him."

<snip>

More at link ::MonkeyCool::

I can't believe I never looked into it... Is Shawn's lawyer court appointed or is he actually paying full price for his attorney?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cadillac on February 08, 2011, 08:43:10 PM
I'm no genius - just a regular gal - but go back to my post a few hours ago...

This is a drug deal gone bad and I am not sure who all is complicit in this.

Just like Ron and Misty.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 08:45:19 PM
(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii302/vwaltman/122419.jpg)

Does anyone notice the body language in this picture?  This is not the first time I have seen this in when these three are pictured together.
What I notice the most are Billie's eyes... her pupils are HUGE. Could be from the camera flash , but the way her eyes are bugging out, makes me think she is on something. JMO JSM BTL  ::MonkeyBike::

I think it looks like Billie and Shawn may have just recently had a "tiff" ... she is sitting very straight and rigid, and has a very tight lip pursed (pizzed) look on her face.  She actually looks to be pulling away from him slightly.  Her one foot on top of the other one is not a normal comfy position, like she plans on getting up and movin as soon as that photo is taken.  Shawn looks like he is trying way too hard to look like the "happy couple", head tilted towards her, hand grasped tightly on her hip.

Honestly Hailey looks just like a happy go lucky kid to me.  With Billie "over top" of both Shawn and Hailey in a weird kinda way she looks like and "add in" on the photo.  Maybe she felt Shawn and Hailey were sitting too close together and felt she needed to get in between them.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: curiousone on February 08, 2011, 08:47:41 PM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?


WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!  That's some heavy stuff if true.  And, quite frankly, many of the rumors going around so far have been true.

I know, I almost passed out.....but then I read the new article at KTAB. I really am lost now ::MonkeyShocked::


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339996


As the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance ends his silence, Hailey's father has something to say about Shawn Adkins.

"Instead of spending money on a lawyer he needs to spend money on trying to find Hailey," said Clint Dunn.

Adkins, Hailey's mother's once live-in boyfriend told KTAB in an exclusive interview that he maintains his innocence, and Clint says although he believes Adkins is sincere.

"He needs to help find Hailey," said Clint, "so he can get the heat off of him."

<snip>

More at link ::MonkeyCool::

Why has Clint gone from not suspecting SA, to putting all that stuff out there to Peter Hyatt, to now being on the same page as BD and SA?  Why is he waivering so much?  Seems to me something has something on him?



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 08:48:48 PM
Just posted in Who's Who  ::MonkeyEek::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9319.msg1301916#msg1301916

Thanks, Klaas. I was in the middle of a post & my restarted. Weird.

Anyway, look at the date on the picture. Jan 13, 2008? Really? I thought Billie & Clint have only been seperated for 2.5 years...hmmm...last I looked it's now 2011 so that makes the date of this picture 3 years. Could they have been having an affair?

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5020/5427869953_0b567cf199_o.jpg)


According to Billie's blog interview on Bring Them Home Now, the interviewer asks Billie how long she & Shawn have been together and Billie's response is 2 & a 1/2 years. Well, the interview is from 2/7/11. According to the picture date stamped above, Billie and Shawn have been together at least 3 years & a month respectively. IMO, you cannot confuse 2.5 years with 3! 6 or 7 months difference is a considerable amount of time.

Here's the link & start at time 21:45

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/08/exclusive-live--billie-dunn-speaks-1

I just backtracked in the recording. If you start at 17:10 in the link above, they discuss Billie & Clint split around 3 years ago & Billie met Shawn about a months later. Although it's fast, the time line adds up a lil better, regarding their relationship & this picture.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: curiousone on February 08, 2011, 08:48:52 PM
^"someone has something on him?"


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 08:49:39 PM
sniped*

I know, I almost passed out.....but then I read the new article at KTAB. I really am lost now ::MonkeyShocked::


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339996


As the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance ends his silence, Hailey's father has something to say about Shawn Adkins.

"Instead of spending money on a lawyer he needs to spend money on trying to find Hailey," said Clint Dunn.

Adkins, Hailey's mother's once live-in boyfriend told KTAB in an exclusive interview that he maintains his innocence, and Clint says although he believes Adkins is sincere.

"He needs to help find Hailey," said Clint, "so he can get the heat off of him."

<snip>

More at link ::MonkeyCool::

I think this is Clint's way of saying "if you're innocent, you dont need a lawyer & you could be helping to find Hailey."   I agree with LE its not a good idea ever, but why do I get the distinct impression that this wasnt Clint's original thought...it did cross my mind that maybe LE planted a seed but wont take ownership of suggesting what Clint should say to Shawn.  I cannot see how in the world Clint would actually believe Shawn would never hurt or take Hailey I dont know, it doesnt make much sense but then again this case is riddled with lies & deception.

I will say this though, the police being at Shawn's yesterday seems to be true because it is very doubtful that investigators would call Shawn being more cooperative based on a media interview.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cadillac on February 08, 2011, 08:51:14 PM
What is the history between CD and SA?  Friends in the past?  Dope buddies?  Did CD introduce SA to BD?   Is their history connected somehow?

I guess I am questioning bad blood here between the two/and their acquaintances.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 08, 2011, 08:51:20 PM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?


WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!  That's some heavy stuff if true.  And, quite frankly, many of the rumors going around so far have been true.

I know, I almost passed out.....but then I read the new article at KTAB. I really am lost now ::MonkeyShocked::


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339996


As the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance ends his silence, Hailey's father has something to say about Shawn Adkins.

"Instead of spending money on a lawyer he needs to spend money on trying to find Hailey," said Clint Dunn.

Adkins, Hailey's mother's once live-in boyfriend told KTAB in an exclusive interview that he maintains his innocence, and Clint says although he believes Adkins is sincere.

"He needs to help find Hailey," said Clint, "so he can get the heat off of him."

<snip>

More at link ::MonkeyCool::

Why has Clint gone from not suspecting SA, to putting all that stuff out there to Peter Hyatt, to now being on the same page as BD and SA?  Why is he waivering so much?  Seems to me something has something on him?



I wonder when the video was released and the timing of this stmt and the wavering......we KNOW he suspected Shawn from early on, he stated it on NG (granted every lead does need to be looked at), but hinky is hinky and Shawn is a suspect for a reason. Makes my mind wander what they have on him and to be honest we already knew about the pot so I am clueless???


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 08:51:51 PM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?


WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!  That's some heavy stuff if true.  And, quite frankly, many of the rumors going around so far have been true.

I know, I almost passed out.....but then I read the new article at KTAB. I really am lost now ::MonkeyShocked::


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339996


As the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance ends his silence, Hailey's father has something to say about Shawn Adkins.

"Instead of spending money on a lawyer he needs to spend money on trying to find Hailey," said Clint Dunn.

Adkins, Hailey's mother's once live-in boyfriend told KTAB in an exclusive interview that he maintains his innocence, and Clint says although he believes Adkins is sincere.

"He needs to help find Hailey," said Clint, "so he can get the heat off of him."

<snip>

More at link ::MonkeyCool::

Why has Clint gone from not suspecting SA, to putting all that stuff out there to Peter Hyatt, to now being on the same page as BD and SA?  Why is he waivering so much?  Seems to me something has something on him?



Unless they shared some info with Clint. I'm wondering if every single one of them are afraid of going to jail so they're railroading each other. I wish they'd all just get it all out, do whatever they have to do to make things right, and move on so Hailey can be found...that is, if they're not the one's that disappeared Hailey.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 08, 2011, 09:03:46 PM
sniped*

I know, I almost passed out.....but then I read the new article at KTAB. I really am lost now ::MonkeyShocked::


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339996


As the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance ends his silence, Hailey's father has something to say about Shawn Adkins.

"Instead of spending money on a lawyer he needs to spend money on trying to find Hailey," said Clint Dunn.

Adkins, Hailey's mother's once live-in boyfriend told KTAB in an exclusive interview that he maintains his innocence, and Clint says although he believes Adkins is sincere.

"He needs to help find Hailey," said Clint, "so he can get the heat off of him."

<snip>

More at link ::MonkeyCool::

I think this is Clint's way of saying "if you're innocent, you dont need a lawyer & you could be helping to find Hailey."   I agree with LE its not a good idea ever, but why do I get the distinct impression that this wasnt Clint's original thought...it did cross my mind that maybe LE planted a seed but wont take ownership of suggesting what Clint should say to Shawn.  I cannot see how in the world Clint would actually believe Shawn would never hurt or take Hailey I dont know, it doesnt make much sense but then again this case is riddled with lies & deception.

I will say this though, the police being at Shawn's yesterday seems to be true because it is very doubtful that investigators would call Shawn being more cooperative based on a media interview.

I think the wording is odd for Clint IMO....

I just don't see the use of sincere as sincer IYKWIM ::MonkeyTongue::


O/T....what a sad anniversary, tomorrow it will be 2 yrs that we learned of anothe little HaLeigh missing and sadly these two situations have smacked me in the face with the similarities from day one.

Godd bless both of them  ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: curiousone on February 08, 2011, 09:06:22 PM
I thought Nancy Grace didn't pay out for interviews?

Anyhow, that's minor compared to all of the other stuff.  Gosh, it seems like a horror/soap opera playing out in front of us. 

Quite frankly, my way of thinking is BD is so protective of SA and it's her story that she says in the media because I think she's really to blame for Hailey's disappearance.  I think SA was used to cover up. 

I think BD is the manipulative one here.  Look at CD's interview with Peter.  Peter had it all online and then, wham, it was gone and CD never came on the show on Sunday night.  All of a sudden, CD is on the same page as BD and now says he thinks SA is sincere?  Also verifying that there was another mystery person that should be looked at where a week ago he had no idea what BD was talking about.  Maybe LE talked to CD and told him to play along and that's what he's doing???

IMO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 09:18:10 PM
I thought Nancy Grace didn't pay out for interviews?

Anyhow, that's minor compared to all of the other stuff.  Gosh, it seems like a horror/soap opera playing out in front of us. 

Quite frankly, my way of thinking is BD is so protective of SA and it's her story that she says in the media because I think she's really to blame for Hailey's disappearance.  I think SA was used to cover up. 

I think BD is the manipulative one here.  Look at CD's interview with Peter.  Peter had it all online and then, wham, it was gone and CD never came on the show on Sunday night.  All of a sudden, CD is on the same page as BD and now says he thinks SA is sincere?  Also verifying that there was another mystery person that should be looked at where a week ago he had no idea what BD was talking about.  Maybe LE talked to CD and told him to play along and that's what he's doing???

IMO

She hasnt in the past & referred to such but I guess we can inquire to see what the response is...Im rather curious myself after that comment so I'm going to drop a line & see if I get a response.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 08, 2011, 09:19:36 PM
sniped*

I know, I almost passed out.....but then I read the new article at KTAB. I really am lost now ::MonkeyShocked::


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339996


As the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance ends his silence, Hailey's father has something to say about Shawn Adkins.

"Instead of spending money on a lawyer he needs to spend money on trying to find Hailey," said Clint Dunn.

Adkins, Hailey's mother's once live-in boyfriend told KTAB in an exclusive interview that he maintains his innocence, and Clint says although he believes Adkins is sincere.

"He needs to help find Hailey," said Clint, "so he can get the heat off of him."

<snip>

More at link ::MonkeyCool::

I think this is Clint's way of saying "if you're innocent, you dont need a lawyer & you could be helping to find Hailey."   I agree with LE its not a good idea ever, but why do I get the distinct impression that this wasnt Clint's original thought...it did cross my mind that maybe LE planted a seed but wont take ownership of suggesting what Clint should say to Shawn.  I cannot see how in the world Clint would actually believe Shawn would never hurt or take Hailey I dont know, it doesnt make much sense but then again this case is riddled with lies & deception.

I will say this though, the police being at Shawn's yesterday seems to be true because it is very doubtful that investigators would call Shawn being more cooperative based on a media interview.

I think the wording is odd for Clint IMO....

I just don't see the use of sincere as sincer IYKWIM ::MonkeyTongue::


O/T....what a sad anniversary, tomorrow it will be 2 yrs that we learned of anothe little HaLeigh missing and sadly these two situations have smacked me in the face with the similarities from day one.

Godd bless both of them  ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::

IM, so sad & there are a ton of similarities...let's just pray we find the truth in both cases   Haleigh & Hailey, you are both in our hearts  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: curiousone on February 08, 2011, 09:31:54 PM
I thought Nancy Grace didn't pay out for interviews?

Anyhow, that's minor compared to all of the other stuff.  Gosh, it seems like a horror/soap opera playing out in front of us. 

Quite frankly, my way of thinking is BD is so protective of SA and it's her story that she says in the media because I think she's really to blame for Hailey's disappearance.  I think SA was used to cover up. 

I think BD is the manipulative one here.  Look at CD's interview with Peter.  Peter had it all online and then, wham, it was gone and CD never came on the show on Sunday night.  All of a sudden, CD is on the same page as BD and now says he thinks SA is sincere?  Also verifying that there was another mystery person that should be looked at where a week ago he had no idea what BD was talking about.  Maybe LE talked to CD and told him to play along and that's what he's doing???

IMO

She hasnt in the past & referred to such but I guess we can inquire to see what the response is...Im rather curious myself after that comment so I'm going to drop a line & see if I get a response.

Thank you.  It would definitely be interesting to know.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 09:35:40 PM

My hinky meter has been on high for some time when I stopped and considered that both Clint and Billie do not focus on the main suspect in the disappearance of their precious daughter despite the affidavits which reveals Shawn's lies/ deception encompassing his actions and whereabouts on the morning of December 27th ... despite Shawn's defamation of Hailey and ... despite LE's claim that there are no confirmed sightings of Hailey on December 37th.

I believe that there is a code of silence among the three that is obstructing the investigation.  It is something akin to the sibling game ... "If you tell Mom on me; I'll tell Mom on you."

In other words ... justice for Hailey is not the issue ... it about Clint protecting Shawn and self and ... it is about Billie protecting Shawn and self.

Think about Billie and the tattoo issue.  Why did Clint not follow through on his intentions to report this abuse to CPS?  Who was priority ... David or self?

IMO

Janet


My hinky meter was right.

Janet

+++++


Adkins "Needs to Help Find Hailey" Father Says
Tuesday, February 08 2011

As the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance ends his silence, Hailey's father has something to say about Shawn Adkins.

"Instead of spending money on a lawyer he needs to spend money on trying to find Hailey," said Clint Dunn.

Adkins, Hailey's mother's once live-in boyfriend told KTAB in an exclusive interview that he maintains his innocence, and Clint says although he believes Adkins is sincere.

"He needs to help find Hailey," said Clint, "so he can get the heat off of him."

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339996


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Curly on February 08, 2011, 09:36:43 PM
All right. I'm getting crazy from this.
This best not turn into another Beverly Hillbillies/Petticoat Junction/Mayberry RFD on crack outwitting LE.

Lock up the loonies and they'll all start talking in a NY minute.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cookie on February 08, 2011, 09:41:08 PM
All right. I'm getting crazy from this.
This best not turn into another Beverly Hillbillies/Petticoat Junction/Mayberry RFD on crack outwitting LE.

Lock up the loonies and they'll all start talking in a NY minute.



Curly..I was thinking the Clampets on Crack! lol...minds going the same direction I guess...
sure hope that LE knows more than they are showing us..jmo..


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cookie on February 08, 2011, 09:41:47 PM
Janet..I think that your hinky meter is hinkying in the right direction...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 09:46:29 PM
I Live in Indy and just called a CVS and they said you have to have an prescription to get the silver nitrate sticks.maybe this differs in other states ?
I know you can buy it online but why pay for it if you can get it for free ?

I will have to listen again.  Did Billie actually say that she took those nitrate sticks from work?

Billie conceded in a NG interview that she did a lot of personal copying at work.  When I consider some of the privileges I was afforded at my workplace ... she may have gotten permission for the copying but ... "nitrate sticks"??

Janet

+++++

Bring Them Home Now EXCLUSIVE Billie Dunn Speaks!
07/02/2011 4:00 PM - 1 hr 31 min
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/08/exclusive-live--billie-dunn-speaks-1


73:15 - Billie specifically stated she came home with pens, alcohol, silver nitrate sticks...David & a friend got hold of them and drew on each other.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: AmandaReckonwith on February 08, 2011, 09:50:53 PM
If I could rename the case album I would choose Clampets on crack.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: 4 Donks on February 08, 2011, 09:51:03 PM
Maybe CD had the interview removed because he realized that his info about BD.s drug use and drug sales that he spoke about but left Hailey there could result in him losing Chloe and possibly Naomi's son through CPS.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: texasmom on February 08, 2011, 09:53:04 PM
If I could rename the case album I would choose Clampets on crack.
::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cookie on February 08, 2011, 09:54:02 PM
If I could rename the case album I would choose Clampets on crack.

yep...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 10:07:35 PM
I Live in Indy and just called a CVS and they said you have to have an prescription to get the silver nitrate sticks.maybe this differs in other states ?
I know you can buy it online but why pay for it if you can get it for free ?

I will have to listen again.  Did Billie actually say that she took those nitrate sticks from work?

Billie conceded in a NG interview that she did a lot of personal copying at work.  When I consider some of the privileges I was afforded at my workplace ... she may have gotten permission for the copying but ... "nitrate sticks"??

Janet

+++++

Bring Them Home Now EXCLUSIVE Billie Dunn Speaks!
07/02/2011 4:00 PM - 1 hr 31 min
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/08/exclusive-live--billie-dunn-speaks-1


73:15 - Billie specifically stated she came home with pens, alcohol, silver nitrate sticks...David & a friend got hold of them and drew on each other.

Thanks Titch

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 10:13:41 PM
(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii302/vwaltman/122419.jpg)

Does anyone notice the body language in this picture?  This is not the first time I have seen this in when these three are pictured together.

Possessive and controlling grasp by Shawn to Billie.  Hailey detached from both of them.   She is sitting right next to her own mother forcing a smile & yet Billie doesnt have a finger on her in any sort of warm embrace.  Hailey isnt reaching out to her mother either, look how close their hands are to each other & yet no contact.   Normally, a bond such as mother/daughter would be prominent despite the other parties in the picture.   Billie has a vacant look on her face, being that this is Christmas, it appears even more peculiar.   Shawn's smirk seems to indicate that he feels satisfied that he is getting his way.

Saturday, February 05, 2011
EXCLUSIVE: Billie Jean Dunn Revealed

 
<snipped>

Clint also reported that Shawn had a serious jealously issue. He was especially incensed when Billie took a new job...as a stripper.

<snipped>

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 08, 2011, 10:20:40 PM
If I could rename the case album I would choose Clampets on crack.

Different states but same-o, same-o

Dunn-Adkins = Cummings-Croslin


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 10:21:12 PM
Just posted in Who's Who  ::MonkeyEek::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9319.msg1301916#msg1301916

Thanks, Klaas. I was in the middle of a post & my restarted. Weird.

Anyway, look at the date on the picture. Jan 13, 2008? Really? I thought Billie & Clint have only been seperated for 2.5 years...hmmm...last I looked it's now 2011 so that makes the date of this picture 3 years. Could they have been having an affair?

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5020/5427869953_0b567cf199_o.jpg)


Saturday, February 05, 2011
EXCLUSIVE: Billie Jean Dunn Revealed

 
by Peter Hyatt

Clint said that Billie was, early on, anti drug, in particular, against his use of marijuana, which he says he takes for pain rather than narcotics. Billie did, however, begin to take hydrocodone when they were together, though she had no pain, and likely increased her drug use greatly in the past two years with Shawn, who she has been with far longer than she likes to report. Just one week after kicking Clint out, Hailey told him that Shawn was spending the night there. He said she took it just "to get high" and didn't need it for any injury or painful condition.

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html
 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 10:22:19 PM
<snipped>


<snipped>


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: AmandaReckonwith on February 08, 2011, 10:24:29 PM
Both parents have put their own pleasure above their child.

The pain they medicated themselves for is surely nothing compared to the pain of losing Hailey.

Yep. Croslin-Cummings West.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 10:28:38 PM

It is extremely worthy to note that Shawn states in this interview that he went to work, he quit his job, turned in his belongings, but he didnt speak to "nobody" at work.

How the H do you quit a job without notifying anyone specifically?    How convenient he didnt talk to anyone, right?

NANCY GRACE
Texas Police Search for Missing 13-Year-Old Cheerleader
Aired January 4, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


<snipped>

BILLIE DUNN: He went in Monday morning, but there was an argument. He was fired or there was just a big blow-up there. He walked out. He left his job by 6:30 in the morning and went to Big Spring (ph) to his mom`s house.

GRACE: OK. What was the blow-up about?

BILLIE DUNN: I don`t even know. I just know he didn`t get along with one or two of the co-workers.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/04/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Northern Rose on February 08, 2011, 10:44:29 PM
Meet Brian Glasco aka freaker13 and his video of Clint and him getting high posted 31 Dec 2009

http://www.myspace.com/freaker13/videos



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 08, 2011, 10:45:49 PM
Meet Brian Glasco aka freaker13 and his video of Clint and him getting high posted 31 Dec 2009

http://www.myspace.com/freaker13/videos



Thanks Northern, yeah we posted earlier today.  Real piece of work huh?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Northern Rose on February 08, 2011, 10:55:38 PM
Meet Brian Glasco aka freaker13 and his video of Clint and him getting high posted 31 Dec 2009

http://www.myspace.com/freaker13/videos



Thanks Northern, yeah we posted earlier today.  Real piece of work huh?

I am speechless.  They are all one upping the next to rat each other out.  There are rumors that BD said the "other" person who threatened her was Glasco in her Radio session, and here is Glasco with a video of him and Clint doing weed.  I am wonder if this is Shawn and Corey fueling the dirt be exposed as they are getting even for all their videos being thrown out there.  Like inviting 1000 maggotts to a fine dining experience of rice-o-roni and spam. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 08, 2011, 10:59:25 PM
Yep Northern, that's what it looks like.  IMO they are all dirtbags.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 08, 2011, 11:13:54 PM
Can you imagine how much despair Hailey must have hidden deep inside? My God, I seriously can't begin to imagine. She has grown up surrounded by drugs, and it appears most in her family were & still are involved with drug use. Seems the majority listen to death metal & love gore. This getting high stuff goes way beyond being a kid in college & just doing stupid stuff. OMG, and the parenting skills aren't even skills - in Hailey's situation it could be classified as a bad habit of neglect. They are grown adults. They should be held accountable. These children are living in a sad situation. I hate to think they'll all grow up and think this is the norm, the way people are supposed to be...because imo you should be sooo much more than this.

OMG, I'm at a loss.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Magnolia on February 08, 2011, 11:14:01 PM
How old is Billie Jean Dunn?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 08, 2011, 11:17:50 PM
Magnolia - I believe she is 33


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Magnolia on February 08, 2011, 11:19:34 PM
Magnolia - I believe she is 33

Thanks, Klaas!::MonkeyJnBox::
I had looked and looked.  I know Shawn is 24.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 08, 2011, 11:24:12 PM
There is so much that make NO sense in this case, but one of the oddest out of all is the fact she didn't think to call Shawn nor when she realized Hailey was missing......now, remember he is the last one to have been known to see her daughter and she never bothers to call him??? Wouldn't you want to ask more question, maybe he had mixed of the name of who she was spending the night with, or to get more detail wrt what she was seen wearing last etc.....I just don't get it and that jumps out to me like a huge flashing red flag ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 11:25:09 PM
Can you imagine how much despair Hailey must have hidden deep inside? My God, I seriously can't begin to imagine. She has grown up surrounded by drugs, and it appears most in her family were & still are involved with drug use. Seems the majority listen to death metal & love gore. This getting high stuff goes way beyond being a kid in college & just doing stupid stuff. OMG, and the parenting skills aren't even skills - in Hailey's situation it could be classified as a bad habit of neglect. They are grown adults. They should be held accountable. These children are living in a sad situation. I hate to think they'll all grow up and think this is the norm, the way people are supposed to be...because imo you should be sooo much more than this.

OMG, I'm at a loss.

agreed .... and yet, in every picture I have seen of her, she is bright eyed and smiling.  Her love of sports, cheerleading and music tells me she was trying desperately to rise above all the chaos in her life.  It's not fair   ::MonkeyNoNo::  it's just not fair.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 08, 2011, 11:30:51 PM
I never caught this before......listen at about 7:39-7:40ish and is that Billie saying "unless you are looking for it" or am I batchitcrazy from this case even moreso than before ::MonkeyBike::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXpf7xtaXNI&feature=player_embedded#


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 08, 2011, 11:33:26 PM
IM - are you sure that's the correct video link?  That video is only 7:39 long in it's entirety.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 08, 2011, 11:34:22 PM
There is so much that make NO sense in this case, but one of the oddest out of all is the fact she didn't think to call Shawn nor when she realized Hailey was missing......now, remember he is the last one to have been known to see her daughter and she never bothers to call him??? Wouldn't you want to ask more question, maybe he had mixed of the name of who she was spending the night with, or to get more detail wrt what she was seen wearing last etc.....I just don't get it and that jumps out to me like a huge flashing red flag ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yes, that would make perfect sense to "us" but ... what else confuses me is that right away when David says Hailey didn't spend the night at Mary Beths, Billie goes to the police to report her daughter missing.  Couldn't Shawn have made a mistake w/friends names?  Wouldn't you want to see your phone log first?  Maybe make some calls to friends or relatives?  Couldn't Hailey have spent the night at another friends, by choice instead and just not told Billie?  It didn't really seem like Billie cared too much where Hailey was, when Hailey was "there" or who Hailey was with so why not just immediately think she was "somewhere" other than missing.  Mother's Intuition???  Nah ... I doubt that!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 11:36:27 PM
Meet Brian Glasco aka freaker13 and his video of Clint and him getting high posted 31 Dec 2009

http://www.myspace.com/freaker13/videos



 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 08, 2011, 11:45:24 PM
IM - are you sure that's the correct video link?  That video is only 7:39 long in it's entirety.  ::MonkeyCool::
::MonkeyTongue::

Ok, I AM batchitcrazy.....but yes, it's around the 6:30ish mark when NG asked Clint about seeing the car and he goes on to explain how he can't see it when they are parked around back.

Thanks for the nod ::dogwag::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 11:46:19 PM
NANCY GRACE
Hailey`s Grandmother Suspects Mother`s Boyfriend
Aired January 13, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: How old is he? Was he born in `85? Is he -- how old is he?

DUNN: Yes, he`s 25, 26.

GRACE: And how old are you?

DUNN: Thirty-three.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/13/ng.01.html
 



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 08, 2011, 11:48:33 PM
There is so much that make NO sense in this case, but one of the oddest out of all is the fact she didn't think to call Shawn nor when she realized Hailey was missing......now, remember he is the last one to have been known to see her daughter and she never bothers to call him??? Wouldn't you want to ask more question, maybe he had mixed of the name of who she was spending the night with, or to get more detail wrt what she was seen wearing last etc.....I just don't get it and that jumps out to me like a huge flashing red flag ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yes, that would make perfect sense to "us" but ... what else confuses me is that right away when David says Hailey didn't spend the night at Mary Beths, Billie goes to the police to report her daughter missing.  Couldn't Shawn have made a mistake w/friends names?  Wouldn't you want to see your phone log first?  Maybe make some calls to friends or relatives?  Couldn't Hailey have spent the night at another friends, by choice instead and just not told Billie?  It didn't really seem like Billie cared too much where Hailey was, when Hailey was "there" or who Hailey was with so why not just immediately think she was "somewhere" other than missing.  Mother's Intuition???  Nah ... I doubt that!
Exactly!! And I sure as he77 would call MB and go to her house, she didn't even bother to do that either ::MonkeyMad:: It's like she was making sure Shawn was out of the picture when she made the report......but then again Hailey and Shawn don't have any problems "NOT ANYMORE".......prolly the only true stmt she has ever made and LOL, I shudder to even call her a mother.......demeaning to mother's everywhere who love, protect and put their children FIRST


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 08, 2011, 11:54:01 PM
IM - are you sure that's the correct video link?  That video is only 7:39 long in it's entirety.  ::MonkeyCool::
::MonkeyTongue::

Ok, I AM batchitcrazy.....but yes, it's around the 6:30ish mark when NG asked Clint about seeing the car and he goes on to explain how he can't see it when they are parked around back.

Thanks for the nod ::dogwag::


NANCY GRACE
Missing Cheerleader`s Mom and Boyfriend Failed Polygraph
Aired January 6, 2011 - 20:00   ET


<snipped>

CLINT DUNN, DAD OF MISSING TEEN CHEERLEADER HAILEY B. DUNN: Yes, I can stand on the back porch and see her front door.

GRACE: Did you look over there during that day?

C. DUNN: Yes, I look over there constantly, all the time.

GRACE: Could you see -- could you see Shawn Adkins` car there the whole afternoon?

C. DUNN: I`m not even sure. They park the car around the back, so I really can`t see the car very well from my house.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/06/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 08, 2011, 11:54:02 PM
IM - are you sure that's the correct video link?  That video is only 7:39 long in it's entirety.  ::MonkeyCool::
::MonkeyTongue::

Ok, I AM batchitcrazy.....but yes, it's around the 6:30ish mark when NG asked Clint about seeing the car and he goes on to explain how he can't see it when they are parked around back.

Thanks for the nod ::dogwag::

OK, I hear it.  Let me see if I can copy and isolate. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 08, 2011, 11:55:17 PM
IM - are you sure that's the correct video link?  That video is only 7:39 long in it's entirety.  ::MonkeyCool::
::MonkeyTongue::

Ok, I AM batchitcrazy.....but yes, it's around the 6:30ish mark when NG asked Clint about seeing the car and he goes on to explain how he can't see it when they are parked around back.

Thanks for the nod ::dogwag::


NANCY GRACE
Missing Cheerleader`s Mom and Boyfriend Failed Polygraph
Aired January 6, 2011 - 20:00   ET


<snipped>

CLINT DUNN, DAD OF MISSING TEEN CHEERLEADER HAILEY B. DUNN: Yes, I can stand on the back porch and see her front door.

GRACE: Did you look over there during that day?

C. DUNN: Yes, I look over there constantly, all the time.

GRACE: Could you see -- could you see Shawn Adkins` car there the whole afternoon?

C. DUNN: I`m not even sure. They park the car around the back, so I really can`t see the car very well from my house.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/06/ng.01.html

Oh, it's not in the transcript...it was muttered way to low for that to be caught, I just heard it and wondered if anyone else did. Thanks though Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 08, 2011, 11:56:38 PM
IM - are you sure that's the correct video link?  That video is only 7:39 long in it's entirety.  ::MonkeyCool::
::MonkeyTongue::

Ok, I AM batchitcrazy.....but yes, it's around the 6:30ish mark when NG asked Clint about seeing the car and he goes on to explain how he can't see it when they are parked around back.

Thanks for the nod ::dogwag::

OK, I hear it.  Let me see if I can copy and isolate. 

Great, so I am not all nutz yet anyway.....I don't know how I missed it the first time, maybe I was so pizzed watching I just missed it and now caught it, IDK?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 09, 2011, 12:17:54 AM
Sorry if these are a repeat but I haven't seen these "beuts" yet

(http://i51.tinypic.com/2z6z8jk.jpg)
(http://i55.tinypic.com/14mqlxe.jpg)

http://www.myspace.com/kyle_bartels/photos/6206618#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A6206851%7D


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 09, 2011, 12:20:14 AM
IM - are you sure that's the correct video link?  That video is only 7:39 long in it's entirety.  ::MonkeyCool::
::MonkeyTongue::

Ok, I AM batchitcrazy.....but yes, it's around the 6:30ish mark when NG asked Clint about seeing the car and he goes on to explain how he can't see it when they are parked around back.

Thanks for the nod ::dogwag::

OK, I hear it.  Let me see if I can copy and isolate. 

Great, so I am not all nutz yet anyway.....I don't know how I missed it the first time, maybe I was so pizzed watching I just missed it and now caught it, IDK?

Below is 37 seconds of the video where NG is asking Clint if he could see Shawn's car parked at Billie's house.  At about the 30 second mark you year Billie say "mmmm, unless you're lookin for it" or something like that.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 09, 2011, 12:20:43 AM
IM - are you sure that's the correct video link?  That video is only 7:39 long in it's entirety.  ::MonkeyCool::
::MonkeyTongue::

Ok, I AM batchitcrazy.....but yes, it's around the 6:30ish mark when NG asked Clint about seeing the car and he goes on to explain how he can't see it when they are parked around back.

Thanks for the nod ::dogwag::

I do remember her mumbling that .. she kind of put her head down and said it ... but it didn't really make sense to me ... I just thought she meant the car was not hidden, just parked around back, but you could see it if you were looking for it ...

OK, I hear it.  Let me see if I can copy and isolate. 

Great, so I am not all nutz yet anyway.....I don't know how I missed it the first time, maybe I was so pizzed watching I just missed it and now caught it, IDK?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 09, 2011, 12:21:43 AM
Maybe CD had the interview removed because he realized that his info about BD.s drug use and drug sales that he spoke about but left Hailey there could result in him losing Chloe and possibly Naomi's son through CPS.

.... or maybe Clint fears retaliation from Billie or Billie's family who are in the know regarding wrongdoing on his part.

Think about Clint's most recent interview.  He refers to Shawn as sincere and ... he does not undermine Billie.

Janet

+++++



 ::snipping2::

I read on Peter's blog (comments section) that the reason Clint didn't call in for the second phone interview (when Dr Glass was on) was because Billie's mom posted on Facebook that if Clint airs Billie's dirty laundry, then they'll do the same.

 ::snipping2::



Adkins "Needs to Help Find Hailey" Father Says
Tuesday, February 08 2011

As the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance ends his silence, Hailey's father has something to say about Shawn Adkins.

"Instead of spending money on a lawyer he needs to spend money on trying to find Hailey," said Clint Dunn.

Adkins, Hailey's mother's once live-in boyfriend told KTAB in an exclusive interview that he maintains his innocence, and Clint says although he believes Adkins is sincere.

"He needs to help find Hailey," said Clint, "so he can get the heat off of him."

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339996



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 09, 2011, 12:21:58 AM
Sorry if these are a repeat but I haven't seen these "beuts" yet

(http://i51.tinypic.com/2z6z8jk.jpg)
(http://i55.tinypic.com/14mqlxe.jpg)

http://www.myspace.com/kyle_bartels/photos/6206618#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A6206851%7D

Who goes out of their way to pose as such bada$$e$ without giving a darn what people think...and that's just the beginning of what I think of these scumbuckets.  Picture after picture depict the "Chronicle of a sociopath."

That last one might as just as well been in a prison yard...hopefully that's where they are headed.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 09, 2011, 12:31:30 AM
Sorry if these are a repeat but I haven't seen these "beuts" yet

(http://i51.tinypic.com/2z6z8jk.jpg)
(http://i55.tinypic.com/14mqlxe.jpg)

http://www.myspace.com/kyle_bartels/photos/6206618#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A6206851%7D

Who goes out of their way to pose as such bada$$e$ without giving a darn what people think...and that's just the beginning of what I think of these scumbuckets.  Picture after picture depict the "Chronicle of a sociopath."

That last one might as just as well been in a prison yard...hopefully that's where they are headed.

LOLOL~Those ears make him look like TommY Croslin......

KLAAS~Thanks for isolating that and I can hear it much better now ::piggy::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: my2cents on February 09, 2011, 12:46:05 AM
Can't stay on long tonite as it is late but I was watching the video of Clint and Brian and that looks to me like maybe I-20 in the back ground of the video and maybe a new construction that they are at...do we know what Clint did for a living? Was it construction? Could this be the new motel that was built there? Could they have helped with part of the construction on it? Do we have a date for this video? Wish we had a picture of the motel....


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: my2cents on February 09, 2011, 12:50:17 AM
I have also been thinking a lot about Billie's brother...wonder why LE gave him a poly? Wonder where he was when hailey went missing? He sure does pop up a lot...the couch , the brother......failed poly , the brother.......David removed from Billies to stay with the brother.......Is the brothers name Delbert? Isn't Davids name David Delbert? Billie and him must be close if she named her son after him....just thinking out loud....wonder if Shawn hung out with Billies brother?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: my2cents on February 09, 2011, 12:54:03 AM
IMO I don't think that Brian has enough brain cells left to do anything to Hailey.....he would lose his train of thought before he remembered that he was going to take her...seriously ...I can just see him scratching his head thinking to himself ...ok now what was I going to do ?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 09, 2011, 12:54:43 AM
Meet Brian Glasco aka freaker13 and his video of Clint and him getting high posted 31 Dec 2009

http://www.myspace.com/freaker13/videos




What type of drug is Brian and Clint smoking?

Thanks

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 09, 2011, 01:09:25 AM
I have also been thinking a lot about Billie's brother...wonder why LE gave him a poly? Wonder where he was when hailey went missing? He sure does pop up a lot...the couch , the brother......failed poly , the brother.......David removed from Billies to stay with the brother.......Is the brothers name Delbert? Isn't Davids name David Delbert? Billie and him must be close if she named her son after him....just thinking out loud....wonder if Shawn hung out with Billies brother?

Check the who's who thread.  I can't believe they would remove David to live with Del.  I think that Billie has more than one brother.
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5132/5429781684_e3bec9a07a_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 09, 2011, 01:11:14 AM
Meet Brian Glasco aka freaker13 and his video of Clint and him getting high posted 31 Dec 2009

http://www.myspace.com/freaker13/videos




What type of drug is Brian and Clint smoking?

Thanks

Janet

Pot - but who knows what it's laced with


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: my2cents on February 09, 2011, 01:13:23 AM
I have also been thinking a lot about Billie's brother...wonder why LE gave him a poly? Wonder where he was when hailey went missing? He sure does pop up a lot...the couch , the brother......failed poly , the brother.......David removed from Billies to stay with the brother.......Is the brothers name Delbert? Isn't Davids name David Delbert? Billie and him must be close if she named her son after him....just thinking out loud....wonder if Shawn hung out with Billies brother?

Check the who's who thread.  I can't believe they would remove David to live with Del.  I think that Billie has more than one brother.
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5132/5429781684_e3bec9a07a_o.jpg)
Oh okay ....there must be another brother then....too many people for me to keep up with.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 09, 2011, 01:14:29 AM
ARE YOU KIDDING ME ???  Per Shawn Adkins

-snipped
"I'm just tired of, you know, staying behind closed doors," said Adkins. "I'm just ready to get out there and live my life again."   ::MonkeyMad::
-snipped

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339906

Really?  You are living your life ... your psedo dream life ... you like horrror films right? 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 09, 2011, 01:17:28 AM
ARE YOU KIDDING ME ???  Per Shawn Adkins

-snipped
"I'm just tired of, you know, staying behind closed doors," said Adkins. "I'm just ready to get out there and live my life again."   ::MonkeyMad::
-snipped

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339906

Really?  You are living your life ... your psedo dream life ... you like horrror films right? 

I bet Hailey would really like her life, too.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 09, 2011, 01:21:20 AM
ARE YOU KIDDING ME ???  Per Shawn Adkins

-snipped
"I'm just tired of, you know, staying behind closed doors," said Adkins. "I'm just ready to get out there and live my life again."   ::MonkeyMad::
-snipped

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339906

Really?  You are living your life ... your psedo dream life ... you like horrror films right? 

I bet Hailey would really like her life, too.
::MonkeyShocked:: Another Satuma-ism "I won't to do what I want to do" .......this case rivals the Satsuma pillbillies for raising my blood pressure to a dangerous level, but I do think it's good he is talking, given enough rope they will both hang themselves. What jack-holes!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 09, 2011, 01:23:19 AM
Meet Brian Glasco aka freaker13 and his video of Clint and him getting high posted 31 Dec 2009

http://www.myspace.com/freaker13/videos




What type of drug is Brian and Clint smoking?

Thanks

Janet

Pot - but who knows what it's laced with

Thanks

I thought "pot" was smoked just like a cigarette.

The method that was used as well as the bulging eyes and hacking cough made me think that what was being inhaled was something else.

Good Night All

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: BabsKats on February 09, 2011, 01:52:10 AM
Meet Brian Glasco aka freaker13 and his video of Clint and him getting high posted 31 Dec 2009

http://www.myspace.com/freaker13/videos




What type of drug is Brian and Clint smoking?

Thanks

Janet

Pot - but who knows what it's laced with

Thanks

I thought "pot" was smoked just like a cigarette.

The method that was used as well as the bulging eyes and hacking cough made me think that what was being inhaled was something else.

Good Night All

Janet
My son explained the "cross joint" was from a skit in the movie Pineapple Express.  I presume its something they were trying to copy???


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on February 09, 2011, 01:53:47 AM
I just finished reading all of the threads.
This family is like this, because IMO they needed intervention 2 generations ago.

IF u check, I bet that these apples did not fall far from the tree.

Has Billie's Mother spoken out to the media ? What do we know about her ?
I bet she is no brain surgeon !

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT Billie's brother was charged with ?

What do we know about David ? Is he beginning to act like his Mother and the rest of these yayhoos ?

I want to add that the young man smoking the joint with Clint on You Tube scared the beejezus out of me.
Sad, so very sad. He looks like he belongs in a cardboard box on a city street, with a cu, begging for change, as he
tokes on his doobie. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on February 09, 2011, 01:58:26 AM
The entire clan needs to consider appearing on a segment of INTERVENTION.

People can get caught up with the drugs, but they do not have to stay that way.

It is a personal choice and becomes an addiction.
Our 34 year old son spent 2 months in a rehab, and FYI
on 2/7/11, he was clean and sober, uninterrupted for 3 years.
He went into rehab when his baby was born. That day was his last
to smoke crack or drink. I am very proud of him. ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: ISpy on February 09, 2011, 02:52:43 AM
(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii302/vwaltman/122419.jpg)

Does anyone notice the body language in this picture?  This is not the first time I have seen this in when these three are pictured together.
What I notice the most are Billie's eyes... her pupils are HUGE. Could be from the camera flash , but the way her eyes are bugging out, makes me think she is on something. JMO JSM BTL  ::MonkeyBike::

I think it looks like Billie and Shawn may have just recently had a "tiff" ... she is sitting very straight and rigid, and has a very tight lip pursed (pizzed) look on her face.  She actually looks to be pulling away from him slightly.  Her one foot on top of the other one is not a normal comfy position, like she plans on getting up and movin as soon as that photo is taken.  Shawn looks like he is trying way too hard to look like the "happy couple", head tilted towards her, hand grasped tightly on her hip.

Honestly Hailey looks just like a happy go lucky kid to me.  With Billie "over top" of both Shawn and Hailey in a weird kinda way she looks like and "add in" on the photo.  Maybe she felt Shawn and Hailey were sitting too close together and felt she needed to get in between them.

Looking at this picture, I just realized why it bothers me.  Invision- I think you're right that there's been a "tiff".  I just think it was between Billie and Hailey.  Shawn's got an "I'm de man." kind of look.  Billie is clearly angry and trying to contain it because someone wants to take a picture.  She also clearly does not want her picture taken at the moment.  Her upper body is pulled sharply away from Hailey, who is forcing a smile.  The smile doesn't light up Hailey's eyes as a genuine, relaxed smile would.  Hailey is careful to sit close enough to be in the picture (likely, as requested), but her hands are pulled into her body, avoiding Billie.  You can "see" that Billie is turned away from Hailey and in towards Shawn.  It appears that Billie's right hip is pulled slightly away from Hailey as well.  I get the impression that she doesn't want Hailey touching her or even near her at that moment.  She is clearly angry at Hailey.  It's as if she's only sitting next to her for the picture, like someone is forcing her to.  JMO  'Nite all!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Shell on February 09, 2011, 04:02:51 AM
Klaas, just to be thorough, I'd like to make note of where Pharris & Walston live(d). Should I place it in docs or pics? I don't think it'll amount to anything, but what if...ya know? Personally, I think they're looking at the right guy, but again just trying to be thorough.

Thanks for the photos, Titch. I was thinking of the overhead view taken from a helicopter. Your pics give a far better idea of the area.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Shell on February 09, 2011, 04:12:32 AM
Sorry if these are a repeat but I haven't seen these "beuts" yet

(http://i51.tinypic.com/2z6z8jk.jpg)
(http://i55.tinypic.com/14mqlxe.jpg)

http://www.myspace.com/kyle_bartels/photos/6206618#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A6206851%7D

Who goes out of their way to pose as such bada$$e$ without giving a darn what people think...and that's just the beginning of what I think of these scumbuckets.  Picture after picture depict the "Chronicle of a sociopath."

That last one might as just as well been in a prison yard...hopefully that's where they are headed.

I am sure they think of themselves as so cool. What losers  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Shell on February 09, 2011, 04:50:41 AM
Has anyone seen this youtube of Clint smoking dope?

http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DH_W6qHsaT1I%26feature%3Demail


I watched it once, but now it's asking to sign in or sign up.

This content may contain material flagged by YouTube's user community that may be inappropriate for some users.

I was just going to post it as well.  Looks like Clint to me.  This is from the video:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5292/5429155470_98bed54bdb_o.jpg)

Yep, and look who posted it to youtube...thebrownmadman.

Looks like Shawn & his friends & cousin may be at it again.

I read on Peter's blog (comments section) that the reason Clint didn't call in for the second phone interview (when Dr Glass was on) was because Billie's mom posted on Facebook that if Clint airs Billie's dirty laundry, then they'll do the same.

Like we've all said, looks like another HaLeigh Cummings case. Afterall, they were interested in true crime stories. I wonder how much they researched.

Furthermore, I also think that hospitals get money from state taxes. If that's the case, then every single citizen in that county, as well as state, should be complaining about how their money was spent considering Billie Jean Dunn is still employed there. I wouldn't want my money going towards her employment, that's fo sho!

Do we still have that heroin video with Corey & his friend in it, remember they were in a studded house or shed or something? He said originally they'd done heroin or something? Also, Shawn's younger UNDERAGE brother appeared to be getting high in one of the videos, too. His MySpace a/c left alot to be diesired, also, but haven't been back to it since that initial feeling of disgust. Looks like Shawn's whole family & group of skank friends are gonna come out of the woodwork on this one. Just remember - Billie & Shawn did NOTHING in regards to searching for Hailey. That is until good ol' Marc Klaas entered the picture then Billie all of a sudden greeted the searchers...etc. Nice to groom the chick. Too bad she couldn't have been taught proper parenting skills instead.

At least Clint was up front with his drug use.

OMG I can't stand believing this poor lil girl never stood a chance. Where's the flippin' humanity in this world?

Billie's mom posted on FB? is there a photo of the matriarch?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Puzzler on February 09, 2011, 05:05:57 AM
(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii302/vwaltman/122419.jpg)

Does anyone notice the body language in this picture?  This is not the first time I have seen this in when these three are pictured together.


Who is the woman sitting at the dining table in the background?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Puzzler on February 09, 2011, 05:06:43 AM
If this doesn't work can someone please delete it?  I fixed it - please note "R" rated language.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/H_W6qHsaT1I" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

DISGUSTING


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Shell on February 09, 2011, 05:43:13 AM
If I could rename the case album I would choose Clampets on crack.

yep...

Naw, the Clampets had way more class than this crew.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Shell on February 09, 2011, 06:00:48 AM
The entire clan needs to consider appearing on a segment of INTERVENTION.

People can get caught up with the drugs, but they do not have to stay that way.

It is a personal choice and becomes an addiction.
Our 34 year old son spent 2 months in a rehab, and FYI
on 2/7/11, he was clean and sober, uninterrupted for 3 years.
He went into rehab when his baby was born. That day was his last
to smoke crack or drink. I am very proud of him. ::MonkeyBike::
  ::MonkeySlide::  that is wonderful news


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: NM on February 09, 2011, 09:51:24 AM
Hey Monkeys,

Was the couch in the picture above the one they got rid of?
It looks like a dark brown leather couch in really good condition.

Thanks inadvance.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 09, 2011, 09:56:02 AM
Hey Monkeys,

Was the couch in the picture above the one they got rid of?
It looks like a dark brown leather couch in really good condition.

Thanks inadvance.

No the one they got rid of had the South American/Indian print on it:

It's in the back of Shawn's truck here

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Hailey%20Dunn%20%20-TX-/couchintruck.jpg)

and here

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Hailey%20Dunn%20%20-TX-/10411billieshawn.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 09:58:21 AM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?


Respectfully bolded by me



1 - So Shawn's dad works at the same place he did in Snyder? What About Billie's dad? Where does he work? How come we don't hear him being mentioned? I found an article that informs Billie's dad works/ed in the oil field:

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/08/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/?partner=popular

Snip:
Walking with her children through the streets of Colorado City, Magin Jones, 32, agreed, saying the disappearance was in certain respects confusing because of the smallness and closeness of the community, including what she knew about the Dunn family.

Jones said her husband used to work with Billie Jean Dunn’s father in the oil field, and she knew Hailey’s mother through the daughter of a mutual friend.




2 - I suspect there's some validity to Garcia's statement of an altercation between Billie & Hailey around Christmas. I found this at the same link:

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/08/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/?partner=popular

“My daughter, I let her visit her and spend the night,” she said. “And the last time I did, I didn’t like it, because I heard they were walking the street with other kids”

Garcia said she never let her daughter spend the night at the home again.

Later, she said that her daughter told her that Dunn had expressed a desire to move in with her birth father, which Garcia said her daughter indicated led to a family altercation around Christmastime.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 10:03:56 AM
Hey Monkeys,

Was the couch in the picture above the one they got rid of?
It looks like a dark brown leather couch in really good condition.

Thanks inadvance.

No the one they got rid of had the South American/Indian print on it:

It's in the back of Shawn's truck here

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Hailey%20Dunn%20%20-TX-/couchintruck.jpg)

and here

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Hailey%20Dunn%20%20-TX-/10411billieshawn.jpg)

BTW, in Billie's interview on Blog Talk Radio, she informs that her brother got new furniture and his old furniture was given to Billie. She said it was in better shape than the furniture shown above in the truck so she took it. She said they took the old furniture out and 2 guys came by and asked if they should drop it off at the dump/landfill for her. So basically she says a couple guys came by and took it "off her hands".

Wasn't there another interview where it was stated a lady took it?

Also, I thought I saw it in the back of Shawn's truck at his grandmom's house. I had to have been wrong bc I couldn't find it through all the videotapes, etc.

Consequently, numerous dumps were searched. Were they looking for the furniture?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: no rose colored glasses on February 09, 2011, 10:20:43 AM
Meet Brian Glasco aka freaker13 and his video of Clint and him getting high posted 31 Dec 2009

http://www.myspace.com/freaker13/videos




What type of drug is Brian and Clint smoking?

Thanks

Janet

Pot - but who knows what it's laced with

Thanks

I thought "pot" was smoked just like a cigarette.

The method that was used as well as the bulging eyes and hacking cough made me think that what was being inhaled was something else.

Good Night All

Janet
The joint could have been laced with something, but the whole purpose is too inhale deep and hold it as long as you can, better high that way. And yes the cross joint is from the movie Pineapple Express, nothing new really, the two of them just thought it was real cool.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 09, 2011, 10:35:53 AM
No Rose and Babs

Thanks for the reference to cross-joint.  I did a google search and now I consider myself somewhat informed.

I hope I do not go missing.  If the hard drive is investigated ...

Good Morning All

Janet



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 09, 2011, 10:39:06 AM
Hey Monkeys,

Was the couch in the picture above the one they got rid of?
It looks like a dark brown leather couch in really good condition.

Thanks inadvance.

No the one they got rid of had the South American/Indian print on it:

It's in the back of Shawn's truck here

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Hailey%20Dunn%20%20-TX-/couchintruck.jpg)

and here

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Hailey%20Dunn%20%20-TX-/10411billieshawn.jpg)

There is a police vehicle parked outside the house while the exchange of couches was taking place.  Somehow ... I believe the couch may be a non-issue.  I could be wrong.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: no rose colored glasses on February 09, 2011, 10:40:23 AM
No Rose and Babs

Thanks for the reference to cross-joint.  I did a google search and now I consider myself somewhat informed.

I hope I do not go missing.  If the hard drive is investigated ...

Good Morning All

Janet


Pineapple Express made a lot of money and a pretty popular movie, so they were copying that from the movie, we own the movie but didn't think that much about the cross joint.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: NM on February 09, 2011, 10:55:47 AM
Thanks Klaas!

So we can see the couch in shawn's truck at bj's house. Seems odd 2 guys would take that couch to a dump for her let alone why would they take it if it was ready to go somewhere in shawn's truck.

I wish a neighbor would take and sort bj's trash, al-la the neighbor of the anthony's.

I wish there was a law that would force the parents and last person seen with a missing person to search every inch of land and buildings. Those lasy-azz people would give up the info and be arrested then to work at searching


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 09, 2011, 11:01:54 AM
I have also been thinking a lot about Billie's brother...wonder why LE gave him a poly? Wonder where he was when hailey went missing? He sure does pop up a lot...the couch , the brother......failed poly , the brother.......David removed from Billies to stay with the brother.......Is the brothers name Delbert? Isn't Davids name David Delbert? Billie and him must be close if she named her son after him....just thinking out loud....wonder if Shawn hung out with Billies brother?

Check the who's who thread.  I can't believe they would remove David to live with Del.  I think that Billie has more than one brother.
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5132/5429781684_e3bec9a07a_o.jpg)

Oh okay ....there must be another brother  then....too many people for me to keep up with.

My Two Brothers Came Over

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 12, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: ... First thing I want to clear up, Ms. Dunn, I have in these documents that I`ve with me and I`ve read them very carefully, that you did, in fact, have a New Year`s Eve party at your home. That would have been within 72 hours of reporting Hailey missing.

BILLIE DUNN: Well, we did not. I know it wasn`t on my mind at all that it was even New Year`s Eve. I had an uncle and aunt, and they brought their grandbaby from out of town. They came up. They stayed at my house Friday during the day. They spent the night at my brother`s. They were back over here Saturday. I think they went home on Sunday. We had family over here. I`ve had a lot of fat of family here. But that weekend, an aunt, an uncle and their grandbaby and my two brothers came over.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/12/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: wildmala on February 09, 2011, 11:06:36 AM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?


Okay...if any of these rumors are even remotely true, it needs to be forwarded to LE (if it hasn't already).  LE has the capability of putting pressure on other druggies in the areas without alerting their POI's.  If they know at all what they are doing, they should be able to sniff out who the 'bad debt' was owed to.  There are plenty of snitchies in the druggie world...I don't care where ya live.

Also, if this person has direct knowledge of the fight between Hailey and Billie, the goings on the home, etc, they are prime witness material for a gran jury.

THIS IS NO TIME TO LET RUMORS CONTINUE BREWING...TAKE EVERY TIDBIT YOU HEAR AND USE IT TO FIND HAILEY.  ....Like someone else said...many of the rumors in this case have turned out to have some merit...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Serenity on February 09, 2011, 11:31:52 AM
So she intentionally was going to use the nitrate sticks for Tatoos...that's why she also brought home the pens to use in the area where the nitrate sticks burned the skin off.The alcohol was for cleaning,and keeping area from infection.
What a MOM,FREE TATOOS !!!!!!    Geeeeez.........
Like to know what other items she stole from her employer...If I were to look up Sadistic websites,use my compainies paper to make copies,I would no longer be employed.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 09, 2011, 11:38:32 AM
There was a short text message sent to Mary Beth at 2:00 PM on the afternoon of December 27th from Billie's phone.  Did this text message originate in Big Spring or Colorado City?

If the origin of the text message was Big Spring ... I believe it is the smoking gun.  In other words ... Shawn has a lot of explaining to do.

In interviews that Shawn, Clint and Billie have afforded in the past couple of days ... this text message is a non-issue.  Why?

Janet

+++++++

Mom of Hailey's Friend on the Sleepover That Never Happened
Sunday, January 23 2011


<snipped>

(Cecilia) Garcia says on the day Hailey disappeared, Mary beth received a text message that said "what are you doing?"

She says the message was sent from Hailey's mother's cell phone at about 2 o'clock, which Hailey always used, but Garcia says she worries that there is no evidence to prove Hailey sent that message.

The Garcia family says authorities have taken that text message as evidence in the investigation.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=334376


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 09, 2011, 11:46:30 AM

sniped from article Part II

"Shawn Adkins, did you have anything to do with Hailey's disappearance or do you know anything more?" asked Tatro.

"No ma'am, I don't," responded Adkins.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=339906

He didnt exactly say that he didnt have anything to do with Hailey's disappearance, he only stated that he didnt know anything more...hmmm    Sometimes words have a way of telling the truth even when they were not intended to.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 09, 2011, 11:49:33 AM
Considering my theory implies that Hailey was deceased prior to the rising of the sun on December 27th ... I contend that the text message to Mary Beth at 2:00 PM in the afternoon originated in Big Spring and ... the author was Shawn Adkins.

Janet

++++++

VIDEO: Billie Dunn Tries To Dispell Rumors Surrounding Her Daughter's Disappearance
POSTED: 6:26 pm CST January 31, 2011
UPDATED: 10:40 pm CST January 31, 2011


<snipped>

Billie Dunn believes the last time her daughter was seen was December 27th at 8:30 p.m. by a neighbor, who claims she saw Hailey with the friend she said she was spending the night with, and a teenage boy.

Colorado City City Manager Pete Kampfer says the witness statements mentioned by Billie could not be validated.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26683573/detail.html


VIDEO: Billie Dunn Tries To Dispell Rumors Surrounding Her Daughter's Disappearance
POSTED: 6:26 pm CST January 31, 2011
UPDATED: 10:40 pm CST January 31, 2011


<snipped>

Billie expressed frustration with Police that they have not named other suspects, to which Kampfer responded, "Right now, we have lots of suspicion, things that are put together that lead to a person of interest, Shawn Adkins."

He said at this time Law Enforcement may not want to name anyone else, because they don't want to tip off other persons of interest on their investigation.

He added that Billie Dunn is not a person of interest in her daughter's case.

<snipped>

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=post;topic=9340.920;num_replies=935


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: curiousone on February 09, 2011, 12:27:30 PM
There was a short text message sent to Mary Beth at 2:00 PM on the afternoon of December 27th from Billie's phone.  Did this text message originate in Big Spring or Colorado City?

If the origin of the text message was Big Spring ... I believe it is the smoking gun.  In other words ... Shawn has a lot of explaining to do.

In interviews that Shawn, Clint and Billie have afforded in the past couple of days ... this text message is a non-issue.  Why?

Janet

+++++++

Mom of Hailey's Friend on the Sleepover That Never Happened
Sunday, January 23 2011


<snipped>

(Cecilia) Garcia says on the day Hailey disappeared, Mary beth received a text message that said "what are you doing?"

She says the message was sent from Hailey's mother's cell phone at about 2 o'clock, which Hailey always used, but Garcia says she worries that there is no evidence to prove Hailey sent that message.

The Garcia family says authorities have taken that text message as evidence in the investigation.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=334376

BBM  Wonder where BD's cell phone pinged at that time? 

SA's cell phone was unaccounted for for about 2 hours that morning.  He could have been in an area where he knew there was no cell phone connections or he took the battery out.  So it seems he may know a bit about cell phone pings.  If this text message was sent at 2 and he was still in Big Springs, then how was it sent, who sent it and where did it ping from.  This is where I think that he had help that day.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 09, 2011, 01:11:33 PM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?


Okay...if any of these rumors are even remotely true, it needs to be forwarded to LE (if it hasn't already).  LE has the capability of putting pressure on other druggies in the areas without alerting their POI's.  If they know at all what they are doing, they should be able to sniff out who the 'bad debt' was owed to.  There are plenty of snitchies in the druggie world...I don't care where ya live.

Also, if this person has direct knowledge of the fight between Hailey and Billie, the goings on the home, etc, they are prime witness material for a gran jury.

THIS IS NO TIME TO LET RUMORS CONTINUE BREWING...TAKE EVERY TIDBIT YOU HEAR AND USE IT TO FIND HAILEY.  ....Like someone else said...many of the rumors in this case have turned out to have some merit...

I was told they have been, someone sent this to me and it's from a member of Hailey's angels, they "state" they report to LE everyday in both Ccity and d@mn can't remember the other agy but there were two agy's they report too, there was more I didn't post........Allegedly the father of DD is NEVER spoken of by Billie but I get the feeling some know who it is, also the other part if this was that BD never bothered to look decent for work (well, neither do I...here in jeans, bb cap, flip flops and a fleece hoodie) and that now she is doing her hair makeup etc., sorry but if that is true I do find it odd. I remember not even fixing my hair for E's memorial, I washed it left it curly and put it in a clippie, and that was the most I had the energy to do......I remember when I saw the pic's I was thinking D@MN, someone should have had the guts to tell me, but the reality is that was the first time after he passed I even got dressed other than jammies and I even wore those to pick out the flowers etc., also prolly was the first day I took a shower or brushed my teeth. I remember her on NG and thinking, most in that situation looked more like I did than Billie, IIRC Desiree was a mess in the beginning but IMO that is more the norm than those that fix their hair and put makeup on.......anyway, just my two cents after I heard what she looked like on an average day. ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cw618 on February 09, 2011, 01:21:56 PM
just catching up with billie on blog talk
at about 17;21 she says she meet shawn on line geeze
and you know you cant tell the bad egg till its to late
if you open it in your default player you can go forward,back,replay at will

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/08/exclusive-live--billie-dunn-speaks-1


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: curiousone on February 09, 2011, 01:50:12 PM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?


Okay...if any of these rumors are even remotely true, it needs to be forwarded to LE (if it hasn't already).  LE has the capability of putting pressure on other druggies in the areas without alerting their POI's.  If they know at all what they are doing, they should be able to sniff out who the 'bad debt' was owed to.  There are plenty of snitchies in the druggie world...I don't care where ya live.

Also, if this person has direct knowledge of the fight between Hailey and Billie, the goings on the home, etc, they are prime witness material for a gran jury.

THIS IS NO TIME TO LET RUMORS CONTINUE BREWING...TAKE EVERY TIDBIT YOU HEAR AND USE IT TO FIND HAILEY.  ....Like someone else said...many of the rumors in this case have turned out to have some merit...

I was told they have been, someone sent this to me and it's from a member of Hailey's angels, they "state" they report to LE everyday in both Ccity and d@mn can't remember the other agy but there were two agy's they report too, there was more I didn't post........Allegedly the father of DD is NEVER spoken of by Billie but I get the feeling some know who it is, also the other part if this was that BD never bothered to look decent for work (well, neither do I...here in jeans, bb cap, flip flops and a fleece hoodie) and that now she is doing her hair makeup etc., sorry but if that is true I do find it odd. I remember not even fixing my hair for E's memorial, I washed it left it curly and put it in a clippie, and that was the most I had the energy to do......I remember when I saw the pic's I was thinking D@MN, someone should have had the guts to tell me, but the reality is that was the first time after he passed I even got dressed other than jammies and I even wore those to pick out the flowers etc., also prolly was the first day I took a shower or brushed my teeth. I remember her on NG and thinking, most in that situation looked more like I did than Billie, IIRC Desiree was a mess in the beginning but IMO that is more the norm than those that fix their hair and put makeup on.......anyway, just my two cents after I heard what she looked like on an average day. ::HelloKitty::

I have a few questions.  If BD and SA had a drug debt and this particular person thinks she is alive, where would Hailey be?  Who would be hiding her or taking care of her?

In the same instance, if there is truth to BD trying to choke Hailey around Christmas, then it seems as though BD has some anger issues and it could be that she did something to Hailey.  We've heard a few things about the goings-on at Christmas.  MB's mom said that there was an altercation around Christmas and that Hailey wanted to live with her dad.  An aunt on OK magazine said that Hailey called her crying a day before she disappeared.  What was going on? 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 09, 2011, 02:05:54 PM
just catching up with billie on blog talk
at about 17;21 she says she meet shawn on line geeze
and you know you cant tell the bad egg till its to late
if you open it in your default player you can go forward,back,replay at will

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/08/exclusive-live--billie-dunn-speaks-1

She also stated in that interview that she doesnt go online  ::MonkeyHaHa::, it came about when she was asked if she sees what is being said.  She also said that Hailey went on at her grandmother's or when at a friend's house when asked about her Facebook.

Billie Jean Dunn-Dumm is an habitual liar.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 09, 2011, 02:09:33 PM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?


Okay...if any of these rumors are even remotely true, it needs to be forwarded to LE (if it hasn't already).  LE has the capability of putting pressure on other druggies in the areas without alerting their POI's.  If they know at all what they are doing, they should be able to sniff out who the 'bad debt' was owed to.  There are plenty of snitchies in the druggie world...I don't care where ya live.

Also, if this person has direct knowledge of the fight between Hailey and Billie, the goings on the home, etc, they are prime witness material for a gran jury.

THIS IS NO TIME TO LET RUMORS CONTINUE BREWING...TAKE EVERY TIDBIT YOU HEAR AND USE IT TO FIND HAILEY.  ....Like someone else said...many of the rumors in this case have turned out to have some merit...

I was told they have been, someone sent this to me and it's from a member of Hailey's angels, they "state" they report to LE everyday in both Ccity and d@mn can't remember the other agy but there were two agy's they report too, there was more I didn't post........Allegedly the father of DD is NEVER spoken of by Billie but I get the feeling some know who it is, also the other part if this was that BD never bothered to look decent for work (well, neither do I...here in jeans, bb cap, flip flops and a fleece hoodie) and that now she is doing her hair makeup etc., sorry but if that is true I do find it odd. I remember not even fixing my hair for E's memorial, I washed it left it curly and put it in a clippie, and that was the most I had the energy to do......I remember when I saw the pic's I was thinking D@MN, someone should have had the guts to tell me, but the reality is that was the first time after he passed I even got dressed other than jammies and I even wore those to pick out the flowers etc., also prolly was the first day I took a shower or brushed my teeth. I remember her on NG and thinking, most in that situation looked more like I did than Billie, IIRC Desiree was a mess in the beginning but IMO that is more the norm than those that fix their hair and put makeup on.......anyway, just my two cents after I heard what she looked like on an average day. ::HelloKitty::

I have a few questions.  If BD and SA had a drug debt and this particular person thinks she is alive, where would Hailey be?  Who would be hiding her or taking care of her?

In the same instance, if there is truth to BD trying to choke Hailey around Christmas, then it seems as though BD has some anger issues and it could be that she did something to Hailey.  We've heard a few things about the goings-on at Christmas.  MB's mom said that there was an altercation around Christmas and that Hailey wanted to live with her dad.  An aunt on OK magazine said that Hailey called her crying a day before she disappeared.  What was going on? 

I wish I knew that answer, IIRC on another page I read that did in fact "think" it was possible for her to be alive but on the other hand they are searching areas where you would not find anyone alive, but remains instead of a live child......so, maybe it's just a way to hold onto hope-IDK? We have heard form Byerly or whatever the name was about the volatile household, the grandmother, now the aunt and MB's mom so I tend to believe where there is smoke there is fire and wonder if Shawn was attracted to young girls since this person also posted that in HS he dated a 6th grader when he was a sophmore ::MonkeyShocked:: Totally not normal whatsoever?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 09, 2011, 02:17:37 PM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?


Okay...if any of these rumors are even remotely true, it needs to be forwarded to LE (if it hasn't already).  LE has the capability of putting pressure on other druggies in the areas without alerting their POI's.  If they know at all what they are doing, they should be able to sniff out who the 'bad debt' was owed to.  There are plenty of snitchies in the druggie world...I don't care where ya live.

Also, if this person has direct knowledge of the fight between Hailey and Billie, the goings on the home, etc, they are prime witness material for a gran jury.

THIS IS NO TIME TO LET RUMORS CONTINUE BREWING...TAKE EVERY TIDBIT YOU HEAR AND USE IT TO FIND HAILEY.  ....Like someone else said...many of the rumors in this case have turned out to have some merit...

I was told they have been, someone sent this to me and it's from a member of Hailey's angels, they "state" they report to LE everyday in both Ccity and d@mn can't remember the other agy but there were two agy's they report too, there was more I didn't post........Allegedly the father of DD is NEVER spoken of by Billie but I get the feeling some know who it is, also the other part if this was that BD never bothered to look decent for work (well, neither do I...here in jeans, bb cap, flip flops and a fleece hoodie) and that now she is doing her hair makeup etc., sorry but if that is true I do find it odd. I remember not even fixing my hair for E's memorial, I washed it left it curly and put it in a clippie, and that was the most I had the energy to do......I remember when I saw the pic's I was thinking D@MN, someone should have had the guts to tell me, but the reality is that was the first time after he passed I even got dressed other than jammies and I even wore those to pick out the flowers etc., also prolly was the first day I took a shower or brushed my teeth. I remember her on NG and thinking, most in that situation looked more like I did than Billie, IIRC Desiree was a mess in the beginning but IMO that is more the norm than those that fix their hair and put makeup on.......anyway, just my two cents after I heard what she looked like on an average day. ::HelloKitty::

I have a few questions.  If BD and SA had a drug debt and this particular person thinks she is alive, where would Hailey be?  Who would be hiding her or taking care of her?

In the same instance, if there is truth to BD trying to choke Hailey around Christmas, then it seems as though BD has some anger issues and it could be that she did something to Hailey.  We've heard a few things about the goings-on at Christmas.  MB's mom said that there was an altercation around Christmas and that Hailey wanted to live with her dad.  An aunt on OK magazine said that Hailey called her crying a day before she disappeared.  What was going on? 

IMHO Billie Jean Dunn-Dumm does have a temper & is a very spiteful individual.  Some of her 911 calls were driven by anger  & revenge more than they were about fear, even in those she made sure to make a disparaging remark about her b/f she wanted out at that time.  In the time we have been exposed to her she has thrown insults at others unnecessarily, accused innocent people of several things including threatening to sue (no merit), lied to LE and the general public, stood by her man & not her daughter. even went so far to blame her own children for things as a mother she did or that she found out about but didnt stop.   I think she was arguing with Hailey over Shawn as well as expressing jealous anger toward Hailey for wanting to spend Christmas day with her father (her recent blog radio interview indicates jealousy when talking about her relationship w Hailey & then Clint's and how Hailey felt about her father).   


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cw618 on February 09, 2011, 02:17:42 PM
cap i know,i hadnt got that far in the interview,i had a phone call i needed to, take but im caught up on it now

about billie anger issues,in the BTR interview,she said she and clint argued, and she and shawn both have said
they have had probs,and disputes,clint said about the same, im starting to think its billie,that is the biggest cause
of the rifs in her relationships, why? drugs and money seem to be a big part of their lives, and those issues have
been known to cause all sorts of havoc


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 09, 2011, 02:20:25 PM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?


Okay...if any of these rumors are even remotely true, it needs to be forwarded to LE (if it hasn't already).  LE has the capability of putting pressure on other druggies in the areas without alerting their POI's.  If they know at all what they are doing, they should be able to sniff out who the 'bad debt' was owed to.  There are plenty of snitchies in the druggie world...I don't care where ya live.

Also, if this person has direct knowledge of the fight between Hailey and Billie, the goings on the home, etc, they are prime witness material for a gran jury.

THIS IS NO TIME TO LET RUMORS CONTINUE BREWING...TAKE EVERY TIDBIT YOU HEAR AND USE IT TO FIND HAILEY.  ....Like someone else said...many of the rumors in this case have turned out to have some merit...

I was told they have been, someone sent this to me and it's from a member of Hailey's angels, they "state" they report to LE everyday in both Ccity and d@mn can't remember the other agy but there were two agy's they report too, there was more I didn't post........Allegedly the father of DD is NEVER spoken of by Billie but I get the feeling some know who it is, also the other part if this was that BD never bothered to look decent for work (well, neither do I...here in jeans, bb cap, flip flops and a fleece hoodie) and that now she is doing her hair makeup etc., sorry but if that is true I do find it odd. I remember not even fixing my hair for E's memorial, I washed it left it curly and put it in a clippie, and that was the most I had the energy to do......I remember when I saw the pic's I was thinking D@MN, someone should have had the guts to tell me, but the reality is that was the first time after he passed I even got dressed other than jammies and I even wore those to pick out the flowers etc., also prolly was the first day I took a shower or brushed my teeth. I remember her on NG and thinking, most in that situation looked more like I did than Billie, IIRC Desiree was a mess in the beginning but IMO that is more the norm than those that fix their hair and put makeup on.......anyway, just my two cents after I heard what she looked like on an average day. ::HelloKitty::

I have a few questions.  If BD and SA had a drug debt and this particular person thinks she is alive, where would Hailey be?  Who would be hiding her or taking care of her?

In the same instance, if there is truth to BD trying to choke Hailey around Christmas, then it seems as though BD has some anger issues and it could be that she did something to Hailey.  We've heard a few things about the goings-on at Christmas.  MB's mom said that there was an altercation around Christmas and that Hailey wanted to live with her dad.  An aunt on OK magazine said that Hailey called her crying a day before she disappeared.  What was going on? 

IMHO Billie Jean Dunn-Dumm does have a temper & is a very spiteful individual.  Some of her 911 calls were driven by anger  & revenge more than they were about fear, even in those she made sure to make a disparaging remark about her b/f she wanted out at that time.  In the time we have been exposed to her she has thrown insults at others unnecessarily, accused innocent people of several things including threatening to sue (no merit), lied to LE and the general public, stood by her man & not her daughter. even went so far to blame her own children for things as a mother she did or that she found out about but didnt stop.   I think she was arguing with Hailey over Shawn as well as expressing jealous anger toward Hailey for wanting to spend Christmas day with her father (her recent blog radio interview indicates jealousy when talking about her relationship w Hailey & then Clint's and how Hailey felt about her father).   

I need to add in resentment along with jealousy in that last sentence.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: BabsKats on February 09, 2011, 02:29:33 PM
Ok, how about this one - BD was the last to see Hailey, the morning of the 27th it was just she and Hailey in the house.  She looked in on her before leaving for work, blah blah.  Lets just say they had another altercation after Shawn left -

He was on his way to work, BD called saying he needed to get back and "cleanup" after her, thats why he took off so fast from work.  She went on her merry way to work and they spent the night getting high and working on THEIR STORY?

 Plausible as any other wacky story thats been spewed by these two???



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: curiousone on February 09, 2011, 02:29:59 PM
I am going to be honest here in my speculation that I've had for some time.  I do think something happened to Hailey after DD left that Sunday.  I think that BD is the perp and SA was used to coverup.  BD always includes SA's timeline in her story, which I think is her concocted story.  She embellishes upon that story every time she tells it.  She's protective over SA and I think the reason is, if he goes down, she is surely going to go down too and the finger will be pointing to her.  All my opinion and I could be very wrong but I don't think BD is innocent in all of this.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Ramblin Rose on February 09, 2011, 02:30:07 PM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?


Okay...if any of these rumors are even remotely true, it needs to be forwarded to LE (if it hasn't already).  LE has the capability of putting pressure on other druggies in the areas without alerting their POI's.  If they know at all what they are doing, they should be able to sniff out who the 'bad debt' was owed to.  There are plenty of snitchies in the druggie world...I don't care where ya live.

Also, if this person has direct knowledge of the fight between Hailey and Billie, the goings on the home, etc, they are prime witness material for a gran jury.

THIS IS NO TIME TO LET RUMORS CONTINUE BREWING...TAKE EVERY TIDBIT YOU HEAR AND USE IT TO FIND HAILEY.  ....Like someone else said...many of the rumors in this case have turned out to have some merit...

I was told they have been, someone sent this to me and it's from a member of Hailey's angels, they "state" they report to LE everyday in both Ccity and d@mn can't remember the other agy but there were two agy's they report too, there was more I didn't post........Allegedly the father of DD is NEVER spoken of by Billie but I get the feeling some know who it is, also the other part if this was that BD never bothered to look decent for work (well, neither do I...here in jeans, bb cap, flip flops and a fleece hoodie) and that now she is doing her hair makeup etc., sorry but if that is true I do find it odd. I remember not even fixing my hair for E's memorial, I washed it left it curly and put it in a clippie, and that was the most I had the energy to do......I remember when I saw the pic's I was thinking D@MN, someone should have had the guts to tell me, but the reality is that was the first time after he passed I even got dressed other than jammies and I even wore those to pick out the flowers etc., also prolly was the first day I took a shower or brushed my teeth. I remember her on NG and thinking, most in that situation looked more like I did than Billie, IIRC Desiree was a mess in the beginning but IMO that is more the norm than those that fix their hair and put makeup on.......anyway, just my two cents after I heard what she looked like on an average day. ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 09, 2011, 02:30:24 PM
cap i know,i hadnt got that far in the interview,i had a phone call i needed to, take but im caught up on it now

about billie anger issues,in the BTR interview,she said she and clint argued, and she and shawn both have said
they have had probs,and disputes,clint said about the same, im starting to think its billie,that is the biggest cause
of the rifs in her relationships, why? drugs and money seem to be a big part of their lives, and those issues have
been known to cause all sorts of havoc

I think its a combination of things that causes Billie's anger issues  1)  severe immaturity  2) being self-centered  3) jealousy  4) habitual non-prescribed drug use  5) laziness toward responsibility  6) resentfulness she has not coped with appropriately  7) extremely poor judgment....she has been in a self-induced rut & shows no real ambition to get herself much less her children out of it but loves to blame everyone else for her issues.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 09, 2011, 02:31:39 PM
Ok, how about this one - BD was the last to see Hailey, the morning of the 27th it was just she and Hailey in the house.  She looked in on her before leaving for work, blah blah.  Lets just say they had another altercation after Shawn left -

He was on his way to work, BD called saying he needed to get back and "cleanup" after her, thats why he took off so fast from work.  She went on her merry way to work and they spent the night getting high and working on THEIR STORY?

 Plausible as any other wacky story thats been spewed by these two???



Plausible


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cw618 on February 09, 2011, 02:35:57 PM
Quote
islandmonkey
and wonder if Shawn was attracted to young girls since this person also posted that in HS he dated a 6th grader when he was a sophmore  Totally not normal whatsoever?
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9372.msg1302576#msg1302576

another little detail ive missed, who the hill would allow that relationship, if this is true,he would be around 15-16yr old,
providing he had not flunked any grades..he he....the girl would be 10=11yr old, just disgusting


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Ramblin Rose on February 09, 2011, 02:36:02 PM
 ::MonkeyWink:: Hi there, Monkeys! This is my first time to post, but have been following this case from the beginning. Hope I am posting this right! I know there have been alot of questions as to who David's father is. I found this on http://www.adoptionsearching.com, so hope it answers some questions. I haven't heard the father's name mentioned in the search so far.

Gloria, Delbert David         He WAS BORN ON 08/18/1994

IN Lubbock County, TX NEAR:

    Lubbock, Lubbock County, TX, USA, 79408

**THE MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME IS:

    Ostrander, Billie Jean        She (GENDER)

**THE FATHER'S NAME IS:

    Gloria, David Allen           He (GENDER)



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: BabsKats on February 09, 2011, 02:39:47 PM
Welcome to the cage Ramblin Rose   ::MonkeySlide:: Thankyou for the info, another part of the puzzle solved!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cw618 on February 09, 2011, 02:47:14 PM
Quote
BabsKats
Ok, how about this one - BD was the last to see Hailey, the morning of the 27th it was just she and Hailey in the house.  She looked in on her before leaving for work, blah blah.  Lets just say they had another altercation after Shawn left -

He was on his way to work, BD called saying he needed to get back and "cleanup" after her, thats why he took off so fast from work.  She went on her merry way to work and they spent the night getting high and working on THEIR STORY?

 Plausible as any other wacky story thats been spewed by these two???
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9372.msg1302587#msg1302587

Quote
curiousone
 I am going to be honest here in my speculation that I've had for some time.  I do think something happened to Hailey after DD left that Sunday.  I think that BD is the perp and SA was used to coverup.  BD always includes SA's timeline in her story, which I think is her concocted story.  She embellishes upon that story every time she tells it.  She's protective over SA and I think the reason is, if he goes down, she is surely going to go down too and the finger will be pointing to her.  All my opinion and I could be very wrong but I don't think BD is innocent in all of this.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9372.msg1302589#msg1302589

both of your statements would explain a lot if true,and both statements seem very plausible


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 09, 2011, 02:56:17 PM
As far as I am concerned all "sightings" of Hailey following her brother and mother observing her on the evening of December 26th ... are not credible ... did not happen.

My theory implies that Hailey was deceased prior to the rising of the sun on December 27th.

Janet

++++++

Updated Theory in a Nutshell

December 26, 2010 - PM
- David sees Hailey on xbox.
- Billie sees Hailey watching TV in bed.

December 26, 2010 - December 27, 2010
- Billie is sleeping/passed out.
- Shawn sexually assaults Hailey in her bed during night.
- Shawn kills to assure silence.
- Shawn covers Hailey with blanket and leaves room.

December 27, 2010 - AM
- Shawn leaves home for work to avoid suspicion.
- Billie observes what appears to be a sleeping form in Hailey's bed.
- Billie leaves for work.
- Shawn leaves his workplace a short time after arriving.
- Shawn picks up uncle/cousin (snyder)?
- Shawn returns home following Billie's departure.
- Shawn retrieves Hailey's body leaving her jacket behind.
- A deceased Hailey is deposed of between home and Big Spring.
- Shawn arrives at his mother in Big Springs.

December 27, 2010 - PM
- Shawn sends text to Mary Beth implicating Hailey as the author.
- Shawn returns home and locks door behind him.
- David returns home a short time later.
- Shawn ignores five minute pounding on door.
- David enters home through window.
- David observes a petrified Shawn in hallway.
- Shawn picks Billie up from work.
- Shawn states that Hailey is spending night at Mary Beth


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: WillenFan21 on February 09, 2011, 02:58:42 PM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?


I don't believe any of this and I have it on good authority from a source close to Nancy whom I won't name that Nancy Grace did NOT pay Billie Dunn 5 grand an interview. Nancy does not pay for her interviews at all.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 02:59:51 PM
::MonkeyWink:: Hi there, Monkeys! This is my first time to post, but have been following this case from the beginning. Hope I am posting this right! I know there have been alot of questions as to who David's father is. I found this on http://www.adoptionsearching.com, so hope it answers some questions. I haven't heard the father's name mentioned in the search so far.

Gloria, Delbert David         He WAS BORN ON 08/18/1994

IN Lubbock County, TX NEAR:

    Lubbock, Lubbock County, TX, USA, 79408

**THE MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME IS:

    Ostrander, Billie Jean        She (GENDER)

**THE FATHER'S NAME IS:

    Gloria, David Allen           He (GENDER)



Thanks Ramblin Rose. Klaas posted this same info back on January 26th. Here's the link & her img:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9336.msg1295884#msg1295884

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5055/5391622390_6c797d1a54_o.jpg)


Welcome to Scared Monkeys! You're gonna love it here!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 09, 2011, 03:03:23 PM
REMINDER

Clint Dunn's Mother

NANCY GRACE
Hailey`s Grandmother Suspects Mother`s Boyfriend
Aired January 13, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


<snipped>

GRACE: Ms. Jones -- Ms. Jones, your theory that the live-in boyfriend sexually attacked the little girl and that he killed her when she threatened to tell -- what do you base that on?

JONES: Because Hailey had told me (INAUDIBLE) him been living there in the past that he would walk around at nighttime, and the hall light would be on, and she could see his shadow at her door, at the foot of the door. She could see his legs at the foot of the door, just at her door, just standing there.  And it scared her. And I don`t know, things just don`t add up that Monday. Why would he leave his job? He didn`t quit, he just left his job. ....

GRACE: What specifically would she say, Ms. Jones?

JONES: That she was afraid of him walking around at night. She said he -- she was just afraid of him. At this time, she was only, like, 11

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/13/ng.01.html


Missing Texas Girl Hailey Dunn 'Scared' of Shawn Adkins
Grandmother Says Adkins Would Stand in Girl's Bedroom Doorway and Watch Her
Jan. 13, 2011


<snipped>

Hailey told her grandmother that Adkins would pace around the house at night, talking on his cell phone in the bathroom and peering into her bedroom.

"She had told me on a couple of occasions that...he walked around at night and she said that she could see his shadow standing at her door. She said, 'Nana, he scared me. I'm afraid he's going to come in there,'" Jones said.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/shawn-adkins-named-person-interst-case-missing-texas/story?id=12608537


Hailey's Aunt

Hailey Dunn: Called Her Aunt Crying Days Before Disappearance
Posted: February 4, 2011


The last person who saw Hailey was Shawn Adkins, her mother’s boyfriend. He is a person of interest in the case and, as Theresa Gaddis, Hailey’s aunt, tells OK!, he has been quite a frightening figure in Hailey’s life. “A few days before she disappeared, Hailey called me crying,” explains Theresa. “She said, “I don’t want to go to my house; I’m not comfortable around my stepdad.”  She hated Shawn.

<snipped>

OK! magazine, February 14, 2011

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/02/04/hailey-dunn-phone-call-to-aunt-day-before-disappearance/





Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 09, 2011, 03:10:45 PM
Coule a Monkey researcher please reveal where Theresa Gaddis fits into the the family tree?

Thanks

Janet

++++++

Hailey's Aunt

Hailey Dunn: Called Her Aunt Crying Days Before Disappearance
Posted: February 4, 2011


The last person who saw Hailey was Shawn Adkins, her mother’s boyfriend. He is a person of interest in the case and, as Theresa Gaddis, Hailey’s aunt, tells OK!, he has been quite a frightening figure in Hailey’s life. “A few days before she disappeared, Hailey called me crying,” explains Theresa. “She said, “I don’t want to go to my house; I’m not comfortable around my stepdad.”  She hated Shawn.

<snipped>

OK! magazine, February 14, 2011

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/02/04/hailey-dunn-phone-call-to-aunt-day-before-disappearance/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 03:13:34 PM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?


I don't believe any of this and I have it on good authority from a source close to Nancy whom I won't name that Nancy Grace did NOT pay Billie Dunn 5 grand an interview. Nancy does not pay for her interviews at all.

I don't believe Nancy pays for interviews, either...but I do believe Billie was & possibly still is involved in drugs.

I also believe that Billie knows exactly what she's doing by hinting at other people, instead of letting the cops do that themselves. IMO, she's trying to take the focus off of Shawn & herself.

Bad parenting all the way around...most especially her bc she had residential custody of her children.

I myself never had a problem with somebody smoking weed, although it's not for me & I don't want my kids around it, but I always thought if adults & in the privacy of their own home...well, etc etc etc. It just seems like these cats take it to a whole different level.

Heck, maybe they're all innocent in Hailey's disappearance. Still though, at the very least, Billie shows neglectful parenting and bad choices...she should pay a penalty for that.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 03:14:59 PM
Hey Klaas, I believe Billie's brothers are Del & Roger Ostrander.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 09, 2011, 03:16:08 PM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?


I don't believe any of this and I have it on good authority from a source close to Nancy whom I won't name that Nancy Grace did NOT pay Billie Dunn 5 grand an interview. Nancy does not pay for her interviews at all.



There was a qualification that this was only what Billie told them, and she is a lying manipulative skank so it deosn't shock me, nor does it shock me that after Miz Nancy was azz kissing and buying her BS, that once she was hard pressed to ask a question that was even 1/10th tough Billie quit coming on the show, and it's just as well. NG is nothing more than a wretched nut anyway......yes, when she does stick to a story it does out there faces out there but the constamt screeching "put them back up" to her producer and her nasty, know it all tone is akin to nails on a chalkboard so the combination to me was almost unbearable without a prescritption IMO. Billie also told some ppl she bought the van, when it was a donation, and sadly one the poor woman wouldn't do again. Just another horrific case that is equivalent to Ron and Misty, just waiting on the Halloween themed wedding anyday now ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 09, 2011, 03:17:29 PM
Coule a Monkey researcher please reveal where Theresa Gaddis fits into the the family tree?

Thanks

Janet

++++++

Hailey's Aunt

Hailey Dunn: Called Her Aunt Crying Days Before Disappearance
Posted: February 4, 2011


The last person who saw Hailey was Shawn Adkins, her mother’s boyfriend. He is a person of interest in the case and, as Theresa Gaddis, Hailey’s aunt, tells OK!, he has been quite a frightening figure in Hailey’s life. “A few days before she disappeared, Hailey called me crying,” explains Theresa. “She said, “I don’t want to go to my house; I’m not comfortable around my stepdad.”  She hated Shawn.

<snipped>

OK! magazine, February 14, 2011

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/02/04/hailey-dunn-phone-call-to-aunt-day-before-disappearance/


again, not saying it's gospel but I read it is Billie's relative>>>>


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 09, 2011, 03:22:37 PM
Hey Klaas, I believe Billie's brothers are Del & Roger Ostrander.

Yeah I knew Del was.  I'll check on Roger.  Del mentions "bro" on his myspace but I wasn't sure if it's brother or just friend "bro".  If that is his brother and Billie's brother, he's a big dude.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 03:24:29 PM
Hey Klaas, I believe Billie's brothers are Del & Roger Ostrander.

Not sure if this is still where Roger lives, but didn't Billie say that her relatives that came over on New Year's Eve stayed with her brother in Snyder? I found this:
http://www.411.com/dir/snyder-tx/ostrander

I looked up the female at that same address - Shanna - and she is married to Roger. Roger is in her pictures on her MySpace a/c. He is the same person in the pictures with Del that Klaas posted a ways back. Here's her MS link:
http://www.myspace.com/shannadea

If this is the uncle that David is staying with, I'm going to run a check on him to see if there's anything in his past. If he comes up clean, I'm sending them a gift card for the grocery store or something.

Side note: Shanna is an LVN. I wonder if she's the sil that Billie called to take her home. They live in Snyder.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 03:27:24 PM
Hey Klaas, I believe Billie's brothers are Del & Roger Ostrander.

Yeah I knew Del was.  I'll check on Roger.  Del mentions "bro" on his myspace but I wasn't sure if it's brother or just friend "bro".  If that is his brother and Billie's brother, he's a big dude.

Nope, I did a usa people search & he shows up linked to Connie.

His name is Roger Ostrander. Look at the MS I just posted. I've taken some screen caps but I'm thinking they are innocent people and am hesitant to post them. It appears they have a nice life. Shanna is a professional and appears to be a beautiful doting mom. I haven;t seen anything bad on Roger yet. Tons of kids pictures. Literally look like a nice wholesome family...unlike some other members of their family.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 03:33:04 PM
Pssst... O/T pleeease don't yell at me... Where's Wyks, Brandi, Rob - haven't seen them on this thread at all? Goes to show how many missing persons cases are out there. Such a shame. I can only hope and pray this world changes...soon.

EDIT: Brandi is around, just not posting in this thread.  I emailed Rob a while back with no response.  I heard he's just real busy with real life.  Wyks I don't know, she posted a couple weeks ago.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 09, 2011, 03:44:22 PM
Hey Klaas, I believe Billie's brothers are Del & Roger Ostrander.

Not sure if this is still where Roger lives, but didn't Billie say that her relatives that came over on New Year's Eve stayed with her brother in Snyder? I found this:
http://www.411.com/dir/snyder-tx/ostrander

I looked up the female at that same address - Shanna - and she is married to Roger. Roger is in her pictures on her MySpace a/c. He is the same person in the pictures with Del that Klaas posted a ways back. Here's her MS link:
http://www.myspace.com/shannadea

If this is the uncle that David is staying with, I'm going to run a check on him to see if there's anything in his past. If he comes up clean, I'm sending them a gift card for the grocery store or something.

Side note: Shanna is an LVN. I wonder if she's the sil that Billie called to take her home. They live in Snyder.

YEP - that would be Roger Ostrander and it would be Del and Billie's brother.  I bet the one David is staying with.  Big dude.  Thanks for the link:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5431345449_57e71623ce_b.jpg)



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 09, 2011, 03:53:49 PM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?


Okay...if any of these rumors are even remotely true, it needs to be forwarded to LE (if it hasn't already).  LE has the capability of putting pressure on other druggies in the areas without alerting their POI's.  If they know at all what they are doing, they should be able to sniff out who the 'bad debt' was owed to.  There are plenty of snitchies in the druggie world...I don't care where ya live.

Also, if this person has direct knowledge of the fight between Hailey and Billie, the goings on the home, etc, they are prime witness material for a gran jury.

THIS IS NO TIME TO LET RUMORS CONTINUE BREWING...TAKE EVERY TIDBIT YOU HEAR AND USE IT TO FIND HAILEY.  ....Like someone else said...many of the rumors in this case have turned out to have some merit...

I was told they have been, someone sent this to me and it's from a member of Hailey's angels, they "state" they report to LE everyday in both Ccity and d@mn can't remember the other agy but there were two agy's they report too, there was more I didn't post........Allegedly the father of DD is NEVER spoken of by Billie but I get the feeling some know who it is, also the other part if this was that BD never bothered to look decent for work (well, neither do I...here in jeans, bb cap, flip flops and a fleece hoodie) and that now she is doing her hair makeup etc., sorry but if that is true I do find it odd. I remember not even fixing my hair for E's memorial, I washed it left it curly and put it in a clippie, and that was the most I had the energy to do......I remember when I saw the pic's I was thinking D@MN, someone should have had the guts to tell me, but the reality is that was the first time after he passed I even got dressed other than jammies and I even wore those to pick out the flowers etc., also prolly was the first day I took a shower or brushed my teeth. I remember her on NG and thinking, most in that situation looked more like I did than Billie, IIRC Desiree was a mess in the beginning but IMO that is more the norm than those that fix their hair and put makeup on.......anyway, just my two cents after I heard what she looked like on an average day. ::HelloKitty::

I have a few questions.  If BD and SA had a drug debt and this particular person thinks she is alive, where would Hailey be?  Who would be hiding her or taking care of her?

In the same instance, if there is truth to BD trying to choke Hailey around Christmas, then it seems as though BD has some anger issues and it could be that she did something to Hailey.  We've heard a few things about the goings-on at Christmas.  MB's mom said that there was an altercation around Christmas and that Hailey wanted to live with her dad.  An aunt on OK magazine said that Hailey called her crying a day before she disappeared.  What was going on? 

I wish I knew that answer, IIRC on another page I read that did in fact "think" it was possible for her to be alive but on the other hand they are searching areas where you would not find anyone alive, but remains instead of a live child......so, maybe it's just a way to hold onto hope-IDK? We have heard form Byerly or whatever the name was about the volatile household, the grandmother, now the aunt and MB's mom so I tend to believe where there is smoke there is fire and wonder if Shawn was attracted to young girls since this person also posted that in HS he dated a 6th grader when he was a sophmore ::MonkeyShocked:: Totally not normal whatsoever?

It has happened before, of course.   A younger man becomes the "lover" of an older woman just to have access the her daughter, which is his true object.  He has had two years to "groom" Hailey, but I don't think she was interested or weak enough to be taken in by his influence.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 09, 2011, 03:57:50 PM
Scurry County Sheriff records.  Note that he bonded out January 1, 2011

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5132/5429781684_e3bec9a07a_o.jpg)

January 1, 2011??  Billie stated on Nancy Grace that both her brothers were at her home on New Year's Eve along with aunt, uncle and their grandbaby.

What was Del's offence?

Thanks

Janet

++++++

My Two Brothers Came Over

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 12, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET

GRACE: ... First thing I want to clear up, Ms. Dunn, I have in these documents that I`ve with me and I`ve read them very carefully, that you did, in fact, have a New Year`s Eve party at your home. That would have been within 72 hours of reporting Hailey missing.

BILLIE DUNN: Well, we did not. I know it wasn`t on my mind at all that it was even New Year`s Eve. I had an uncle and aunt, and they brought their grandbaby from out of town. They came up. They stayed at my house Friday during the day. They spent the night at my brother`s. They were back over here Saturday. I think they went home on Sunday. We had family over here. I`ve had a lot of fat of family here. But that weekend, an aunt, an uncle and their grandbaby and my two brothers came over.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/12/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: wildmala on February 09, 2011, 04:07:04 PM
Quote
islandmonkey
and wonder if Shawn was attracted to young girls since this person also posted that in HS he dated a 6th grader when he was a sophmore  Totally not normal whatsoever?
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9372.msg1302576#msg1302576

another little detail ive missed, who the hill would allow that relationship, if this is true,he would be around 15-16yr old,
providing he had not flunked any grades..he he....the girl would be 10=11yr old, just disgusting

Reminds me of Kayleah Wilson here in CO.  I think she was 12 and her boyfriend was like 18.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 09, 2011, 04:11:35 PM
Maybe CD had the interview removed because he realized that his info about BD.s drug use and drug sales that he spoke about but left Hailey there could result in him losing Chloe and possibly Naomi's son through CPS.

.... or maybe Clint fears retaliation from Billie or Billie's family who are in the know regarding wrongdoing on his part.

Think about Clint's most recent interview.  He refers to Shawn as sincere and ... he does not undermine Billie.

Janet

+++++


I highly believe it.  While he may say things to the police, I don't believe we're going to hear any more negative about BD and SA from Clint as he's obviously been doing drugs and has a newborn child that he could be kept from when he's already lost his own baby girl.  Sounds like a small town where everyone knows everyone TOO well, and knows their business too well.  Expect to see him publically playing nice-nice.  However, that will NOT change the outcome of the case.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 09, 2011, 04:24:46 PM
(snipped for shortness)

Considering my theory implies that Hailey was deceased prior to the rising of the sun on December 27th ... I contend that the text message to Mary Beth at 2:00 PM in the afternoon originated in Big Spring and ... the author was Shawn Adkins.

Janet

++++++

Janet, I completely agree with you on this.  I wish they would finally either find a way to prove that, or at least let us know, but of course they're holding their cards close to the vest.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 09, 2011, 04:25:35 PM
Maybe CD had the interview removed because he realized that his info about BD.s drug use and drug sales that he spoke about but left Hailey there could result in him losing Chloe and possibly Naomi's son through CPS.

.... or maybe Clint fears retaliation from Billie or Billie's family who are in the know regarding wrongdoing on his part.

Think about Clint's most recent interview.  He refers to Shawn as sincere and ... he does not undermine Billie.

Janet

+++++


I highly believe it.  While he may say things to the police, I don't believe we're going to hear any more negative about BD and SA from Clint as he's obviously been doing drugs and has a newborn child that he could be kept from when he's already lost his own baby girl.  Sounds like a small town where everyone knows everyone TOO well, and knows their business too well.  Expect to see him publically playing nice-nice.  However, that will NOT change the outcome of the case.

Considering in respective interviews ... Clint and Billie are distancing Shawn from implication in the disappearance of their daughter ... I am counting on those within the investigation to connect the dots.  I believe the connecting dots will reveal the truth and ... justice for Hailey will be realized.

I contend that the origin of the 2:00 PM text message to Mary Beth will be the catalyst and ... Shawn Adkins will be arrested and charged as the main suspect in the Hailey Dunn case with or without a body.

If Billie Dunn is arrested for obstructing the investigation into the disappearance of her daughter ... it will be icing on the cake.

Janet

++++++

VIDEO: Billie Dunn Tries To Dispell Rumors Surrounding Her Daughter's Disappearance
POSTED: 6:26 pm CST January 31, 2011
UPDATED: 10:40 pm CST January 31, 2011


<snipped>

Billie expressed frustration with Police that they have not named other suspects, to which Kampfer responded, "Right now, we have lots of suspicion, things that are put together that lead to a person of interest, Shawn Adkins."

He said at this time Law Enforcement may not want to name anyone else, because they don't want to tip off other persons of interest on their investigation.

He added that Billie Dunn is not a person of interest in her daughter's case.

<snipped>

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=post;topic=9340.920;num_replies=935


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cw618 on February 09, 2011, 04:35:16 PM
are you talking about clint BTR interview,its still up,his talk starts at about 57min into the show
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/03/tonights-show-clint-dunn-speaks-to-set-the-story-straight-and-patty-kreiger-case


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 09, 2011, 05:07:11 PM
are you talking about clint BTR interview,its still up,his talk starts at about 57min into the show
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/03/tonights-show-clint-dunn-speaks-to-set-the-story-straight-and-patty-kreiger-case


Adkins "Needs to Help Find Hailey" Father Says
Tuesday, February 08 2011


As the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance ends his silence, Hailey's father has something to say about Shawn Adkins.

"Instead of spending money on a lawyer he needs to spend money on trying to find Hailey," said Clint Dunn.

Adkins, Hailey's mother's once live-in boyfriend told KTAB in an exclusive interview that he maintains his innocence, and Clint says although he believes Adkins is sincere.

"He needs to help find Hailey," said Clint, "so he can get the heat off of him."

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339996



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 09, 2011, 05:22:58 PM
Ok, I just remembered something....remember when the dime was dropped on the POI and that is was Brian Glasco, well I posted that Billie stated he wasn't family and this guy IS Hailey's step-uncle and I remember she said that the Mystery Man was someone they had called CPS on....well, this man has no kids so WTF??? Of course his mspace page could be wrong but it did say, paraphrasing here....."love kids-but not for me". So, are we back to cousin Corey  ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: :smt097


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 09, 2011, 05:27:45 PM
IM - personally, I don't believe a word out of Billie's mouth


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 05:35:55 PM
Ok, I just remembered something....remember when the dime was dropped on the POI and that is was Brian Glasco, well I posted that Billie stated he wasn't family and this guy IS Hailey's step-uncle and I remember she said that the Mystery Man was someone they had called CPS on....well, this man has no kids so WTF??? Of course his mspace page could be wrong but it did say, paraphrasing here....."love kids-but not for me". So, are we back to cousin Corey  ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: :smt097

IM, I'm comfused. I never thought Mystery Man was Brian Glasco. I just thought Brian was somebody additionally added to the mix by Billie to help with her smokescreen. I'm gonna have to go back & listen to her stupid interview on BTR now. It was hard enough listening to the interviewers pampering her, let alone listening to her actually speaking. She grates on my stinkin' nerves...literally.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 05:38:08 PM
Casey - habitual liar...changes story to fit her needs

Misty - habitual liar...changes story to fit her needs

Terri - habitual liar...changes story to fit her needs

Billie - habitual liar...changes story to fit her needs


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 09, 2011, 05:55:42 PM
If this doesn't work can someone please delete it?  I fixed it - please note "R" rated language.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/H_W6qHsaT1I" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Titch

In my opinion ... Billie is not the only liar in the Hailey Dunn case.  Could it be the drugs?  They are all full of it.

Janet

+++++

Saturday, February 05, 2011
EXCLUSIVE: Billie Jean Dunn Revealed

 
by Peter Hyatt

Clint said that Billie was, early on, anti drug, in particular, against his use of marijuana, which he says he takes for pain rather than narcotics. Billie did, however, begin to take hydrocodone when they were together, though she had no pain, and likely increased her drug use greatly in the past two years with Shawn, who she has been with far longer than she likes to report. Just one week after kicking Clint out, Hailey told him that Shawn was spending the night there. He said she took it just "to get high" and didn't need it for any injury or painful condition.

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 09, 2011, 06:24:21 PM
IM - personally, I don't believe a word out of Billie's mouth

Im with you on that, as if I had to clarify that point  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cecilita on February 09, 2011, 06:33:26 PM
hi, dear monkeys, i think the crime books that billi and shawn were reading will tell us where is hailey


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 06:48:26 PM
If this doesn't work can someone please delete it?  I fixed it - please note "R" rated language.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/H_W6qHsaT1I" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Titch

In my opinion ... Billie is not the only liar in the Hailey Dunn case.  Could it be the drugs?  They are all full of it.

Janet

+++++

Saturday, February 05, 2011
EXCLUSIVE: Billie Jean Dunn Revealed

 
by Peter Hyatt

Clint said that Billie was, early on, anti drug, in particular, against his use of marijuana, which he says he takes for pain rather than narcotics. Billie did, however, begin to take hydrocodone when they were together, though she had no pain, and likely increased her drug use greatly in the past two years with Shawn, who she has been with far longer than she likes to report. Just one week after kicking Clint out, Hailey told him that Shawn was spending the night there. He said she took it just "to get high" and didn't need it for any injury or painful condition.

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html


Gosh Janet, I totally agree with you. When I was referencing marijuana, & informed I don't really have a problem with anyone doing it, I wasn't referring to an addict. I was referriong to social use...like somebody that drinks alcohol but isn't an alcoholic...kwim? I know it's against the law, but I personally think it should be legalized & taxed like alcohol is. I think it should be regulated like alcohol is, laws in place for driving while under the influence, etc. I know many people wouldn't agree with that, but I studied about it in school - our whole class was divided on this issue. Fact remains that nowadays it's not all natural, that other chemicals are added to the soil and/or roots to make the toxicity greater, therefore helping to create an addiction...such as in the way nicotine is. I don't want to turn this into something political as this is Hailey's thread, but research Vietnam and stuff that was given to our servicemen for free by our govt. They helped to create the worldwide spread of this. Basically, what it boils down to is this: Anything in abundance is bad for you, unless it's love & laughter, lol.

I simply thought Clint could be a pothead. He said he did stuff before, he obviously still tokes bc he was arrested when found with a small bud after Hailey went missing. Billie and Shawn do drugs and the affidavits/warrants as well as released videos prove that. Looks like several people in Hailey's immediate circle don't have their stuff together, which is such a shame if you ask me. When I look at the video with Clint & Brian, I notice the upload date as Dec of 2009. Well wasn't he arrested right after that according to his record?

I want to know more about Billie and the info coming about regarding drug sale and/or use. She brought Shawn into the picture. She had residential custody of David & Hailey. By her own words, she did everything for her kids bc Clint was basically a good-for-nothing dad. Well, if she can take the credit for doing everything in the world for them, providing a roof, clothes, meals, having them involved in sports, good grades, etc - then certainly she should take the blame for being neglectful. As it turns out, these kids were raising themselves it seems like...nobody to answer to, just let mom know where they'll be, etc.

Something is bugging me. I know when I say this it'll make you think the same as I - question the same thing I am. Well...Why did Billie provide a cheer picture of Hailey to the police to put out to the public instead of a picture from Facebook or MySpace that is more recent? Instead, she provided a cheer picture. She stated herself that Hailey cheered bc she encouraged it, that Hailey didn't really mind it but it wasn't her favorite, etc. Well why? I thought Hailey really loved softball... Hailey is built different than Billie. Could Billie have had a problem with that, trying to mold & perfect her, make her like something that Hailey really didn't? Why not encourage her to do something she already likes doing, support her in her decisions, etc? David plays football. Did Billie want the "football" son and the "cheerleader" daughter bc she thought it looked better? For all intents & purposes, Hailey is a great student with a great personality - according to many people including her teachers & principal. That is enough to be proud of in my eyes. Hailey is 5 or 5'1 & weighs 120. I am 5'5 & weigh 128. When I was her age, I looked like a mosquito lol bc of my long legs...I weighed I believe about 90 & was 5'3 at 13 years old. This is only an example, nobody slam me please. I'm just wondering if maybe Hailey felt inferior as well as not good enough. Why the cheerleading picture, I just can't get over it.

One thing I do believe. I think David & Hailey are good kids that will grow up to be great parents. Afterall, look at them now. They basically raised themselves it appears. That is, if Hailey's still out there...alive. I pray she is, although my mind doesn't think it. At this point, it would take a miracle.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 09, 2011, 07:09:38 PM
hi, dear monkeys, i think the crime books that billi and shawn were reading will tell us where is hailey

Ya know Cecilita, you may be on to something...there may be a hint within those pages.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 07:17:43 PM
hi, dear monkeys, i think the crime books that billi and shawn were reading will tell us where is hailey

Ya know Cecilita, you may be on to something...there may be a hint within those pages.

I agree. Plus the papers listed in the affidavits may not even be all of the cases researched... Jeesh, there's no telling...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 09, 2011, 07:26:07 PM
IM - personally, I don't believe a word out of Billie's mouth

 ::rhino::

ITA.......except short tidbit, when they asked her if Hailey and Shawn had issues and she stated "not now", well that I do believe, other than that IMO she is a lying narcisisstic skank


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 09, 2011, 07:30:06 PM
IM - personally, I don't believe a word out of Billie's mouth

 ::rhino::

ITA.......except short tidbit, when they asked her if Hailey and Shawn had issues and she stated "not now", well that I do believe, other than that IMO she is a lying narcisisstic skank

Yup, as in its no longer a concern for the lovebirds from H...quite a few times she hasnt even realized she talked in the past tense or been cavalier in making a statement as if she has no need to be worried any longer.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 07:33:48 PM
Let me add that I think Billie & Clint need to learn the legal definition of narcotic. The term narcotic can compared to many rx from a pharmacological standpoint, but one definition is a drug that binds at opiate receptors, dulling pain, sleep inducing. Now, in legal terms, anything illegal - including cocaine, marijuana, precription rx that isn't written out to you but is in your possession, as well as heroin, etc - will get you charged with illegal narcotics.

Being caught with marijuana can earn you an illegal narcotic charge anywhere in the USA if you don't have a prescription to back it up.

So, in my point of view, anybody stating they smoke marijuana for pain instead of taking narcotics is truly not educated of the fact...again just my opinion.

I never once believed Clint smoked for pain. Personally, I don't believe anybody that tokes cannabis is doing it for pain - I believe it's just an excuse to smoke it.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 09, 2011, 07:39:38 PM
IM - personally, I don't believe a word out of Billie's mouth

 ::rhino::

ITA.......except short tidbit, when they asked her if Hailey and Shawn had issues and she stated "not now", well that I do believe, other than that IMO she is a lying narcisisstic skank

Yup, as in its no longer a concern for the lovebirds from H...quite a few times she hasnt even realized she talked in the past tense or been cavalier in making a statement as if she has no need to be worried any longer.

Yep, I totally have gotten that vibe from her since the first day....I get so angry at these scumbags and not just in this case where the custodial parent allows monsters in, HaLeigh, Zahra, Hailey and a longgggg list of others than infuriates me.  ::MonkeyMad::

O/T~have you heard from Fannie......I mailed her about a 10lb "gift" and want to see if she has it yet?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 09, 2011, 07:39:43 PM

Clint Dunn - Getting High

http://www.youtube.com/embed/H_W6qHsaT1I


Titch

In my opinion ... Billie is not the only liar in the Hailey Dunn case.  Could it be the drugs?  They are all full of it.

Janet

+++++

Saturday, February 05, 2011
EXCLUSIVE: Billie Jean Dunn Revealed

 
by Peter Hyatt

Clint said that Billie was, early on, anti drug, in particular, against his use of marijuana, which he says he takes for pain rather than narcotics. Billie did, however, begin to take hydrocodone when they were together, though she had no pain, and likely increased her drug use greatly in the past two years with Shawn, who she has been with far longer than she likes to report. Just one week after kicking Clint out, Hailey told him that Shawn was spending the night there. He said she took it just "to get high" and didn't need it for any injury or painful condition.

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html


Clint and Billie were blessed with a coveted treasure beyond worth ... a coveted treasure named Hailey.  However ... that treasure was lost to them because their respective lifestyle choices took priority.

The betrayal of Hailey's parents is ongoing.  Clint and Billie have read the affidavits yet each have made the choice to distance the main suspect in the disappearance of their daughter.

When I focus on a missing Hailey ... I become enraged. 

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Kat_Gram on February 09, 2011, 08:00:21 PM
Walking with her children through the streets of Colorado City, Magin Jones, 32, agreed, saying the disappearance was in certain respects confusing because of the smallness and closeness of the community, including what she knew about the Dunn family.

Jones said her husband used to work with Billie Jean Dunn’s father in the oil field, and she knew Hailey’s mother through the daughter of a mutual friend.

...
Could this be Billie's freind, CZ ?
I read over at the other place and the above sounds familiar.
I also read that BJD's father was deceased, but that could also be a lie.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 09, 2011, 08:00:43 PM
IM - personally, I don't believe a word out of Billie's mouth

 ::rhino::

ITA.......except short tidbit, when they asked her if Hailey and Shawn had issues and she stated "not now", well that I do believe, other than that IMO she is a lying narcisisstic skank

Yup, as in its no longer a concern for the lovebirds from H...quite a few times she hasnt even realized she talked in the past tense or been cavalier in making a statement as if she has no need to be worried any longer.

Yep, I totally have gotten that vibe from her since the first day....I get so angry at these scumbags and not just in this case where the custodial parent allows monsters in, HaLeigh, Zahra, Hailey and a longgggg list of others than infuriates me.  ::MonkeyMad::

O/T~have you heard from Fannie......I mailed her about a 10lb "gift" and want to see if she has it yet?

Yes & yes with much appreciation!   Ask Klaas to forward you my email with my consent


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 09, 2011, 08:06:24 PM
IM - personally, I don't believe a word out of Billie's mouth

 ::rhino::

ITA.......except short tidbit, when they asked her if Hailey and Shawn had issues and she stated "not now", well that I do believe, other than that IMO she is a lying narcisisstic skank

Yup, as in its no longer a concern for the lovebirds from H...quite a few times she hasnt even realized she talked in the past tense or been cavalier in making a statement as if she has no need to be worried any longer.

Yep, I totally have gotten that vibe from her since the first day....I get so angry at these scumbags and not just in this case where the custodial parent allows monsters in, HaLeigh, Zahra, Hailey and a longgggg list of others than infuriates me.  ::MonkeyMad::

O/T~have you heard from Fannie......I mailed her about a 10lb "gift" and want to see if she has it yet?

Yes & yes with much appreciation!   Ask Klaas to forward you my email with my consent

Thanks ::HelloKitty:: Check your email......


I can see how LE must have been totally confused when this was first reported and before the cell phone pings were know, can you imagine the vast array of inconsistencies and a mom who didn't even think to call the POI last seen with her child NOR the child or mother the POI stated she went to stay the night with. In all honesty I can see why the officer who answered the 911 call back in Feb of 2010 acted the way they did, LE here wouldn't be too happy if someone kept calling about a t-shirt and the possibility that her ex might want it back and needed someone to watch her back, I think she is the type that liberally used 911 for random crap.  ::pullinghairout::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 09, 2011, 08:07:38 PM
Think about it. IF in the past three years Clint had made the decision not to be in possession of the illegal drug that was affording him a growing criminal record ... a growing criminal record that had the ability to prevent him from acquiring meaningful employment ... he could have been in a position to seek custody of Hailey ... Hailey who wanted to live with him ... Hailey who was scared of Shawn according to Clint's own mother.

Hailey was of an age that the courts would have consider her desires if Clint had been deemed a fit parent.

However ... Clint's onging lifestyle choices revealed in that youtube video ... revealed in his criminal record ... implies that Hailey was not worth the sacrifice.

Janet

+++++


Criminal Record

Hailey Dunn: Unfolding a story of a missing teenager and her family
By Brian Bethel
Published Saturday, January 8, 2011


<snipped>

A search of website publicdata.com reveals no criminal histories for Billie Jean Dunn or for Shawn Adkins. Clint Dunn, however, has multiple arrests, starting in 1994 for burglary of a building, a state jail felony. Following that are subsequent arrests in 1998 for possession of marijuana, under 2 ounces, one in March 1999 for driving with a suspended license.

He was arrested again Jan. 30, 2010, by Snyder police for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces. And he was arrested at his home Dec. 29, again for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces, and a Scurry County warrant.

<snipped>

http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/08/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/?partner=RSS


Clint Dunn's Mother

NANCY GRACE
Hailey`s Grandmother Suspects Mother`s Boyfriend
Aired January 13, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


<snipped>

GRACE: Ms. Jones -- Ms. Jones, your theory that the live-in boyfriend sexually attacked the little girl and that he killed her when she threatened to tell -- what do you base that on?

JONES: Because Hailey had told me (INAUDIBLE) him been living there in the past that he would walk around at nighttime, and the hall light would be on, and she could see his shadow at her door, at the foot of the door. She could see his legs at the foot of the door, just at her door, just standing there. And it scared her. And I don`t know, things just don`t add up that Monday. Why would he leave his job? He didn`t quit, he just left his job. ....

GRACE: What specifically would she say, Ms. Jones?

JONES: That she was afraid of him walking around at night. She said he -- she was just afraid of him. At this time, she was only, like, 11

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/13/ng.01.html


Missing Texas Girl Hailey Dunn 'Scared' of Shawn Adkins
Grandmother Says Adkins Would Stand in Girl's Bedroom Doorway and Watch Her
Jan. 13, 2011


<snipped>

Hailey told her grandmother that Adkins would pace around the house at night, talking on his cell phone in the bathroom and peering into her bedroom.

"She had told me on a couple of occasions that...he walked around at night and she said that she could see his shadow standing at her door. She said, 'Nana, he scared me. I'm afraid he's going to come in there,'" Jones said.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/shawn-adkins-named-person-interst-case-missing-texas/story?id=12608537


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 08:28:55 PM
IM - personally, I don't believe a word out of Billie's mouth

 ::rhino::

ITA.......except short tidbit, when they asked her if Hailey and Shawn had issues and she stated "not now", well that I do believe, other than that IMO she is a lying narcisisstic skank

Yup, as in its no longer a concern for the lovebirds from H...quite a few times she hasnt even realized she talked in the past tense or been cavalier in making a statement as if she has no need to be worried any longer.

Yep, I totally have gotten that vibe from her since the first day....I get so angry at these scumbags and not just in this case where the custodial parent allows monsters in, HaLeigh, Zahra, Hailey and a longgggg list of others than infuriates me.  ::MonkeyMad::

O/T~have you heard from Fannie......I mailed her about a 10lb "gift" and want to see if she has it yet?

Yes & yes with much appreciation!   Ask Klaas to forward you my email with my consent

Am I missing something? What are you guys up to? Are you sending a care package? I'm in, if so. Is Fannie ok?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 09, 2011, 08:36:00 PM
IM - personally, I don't believe a word out of Billie's mouth

 ::rhino::

ITA.......except short tidbit, when they asked her if Hailey and Shawn had issues and she stated "not now", well that I do believe, other than that IMO she is a lying narcisisstic skank

Yup, as in its no longer a concern for the lovebirds from H...quite a few times she hasnt even realized she talked in the past tense or been cavalier in making a statement as if she has no need to be worried any longer.

Yep, I totally have gotten that vibe from her since the first day....I get so angry at these scumbags and not just in this case where the custodial parent allows monsters in, HaLeigh, Zahra, Hailey and a longgggg list of others than infuriates me.  ::MonkeyMad::

O/T~have you heard from Fannie......I mailed her about a 10lb "gift" and want to see if she has it yet?

Yes & yes with much appreciation!   Ask Klaas to forward you my email with my consent

Am I missing something? What are you guys up to? Are you sending a care package? I'm in, if so. Is Fannie ok?
::HelloKitty::

Not a care package......she is from the Gulf Coast and I sent some sand and shells, with all the bitter cold and snow I thought she'd LOL at that !


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 08:48:53 PM
IM - personally, I don't believe a word out of Billie's mouth

 ::rhino::

ITA.......except short tidbit, when they asked her if Hailey and Shawn had issues and she stated "not now", well that I do believe, other than that IMO she is a lying narcisisstic skank

Yup, as in its no longer a concern for the lovebirds from H...quite a few times she hasnt even realized she talked in the past tense or been cavalier in making a statement as if she has no need to be worried any longer.

Yep, I totally have gotten that vibe from her since the first day....I get so angry at these scumbags and not just in this case where the custodial parent allows monsters in, HaLeigh, Zahra, Hailey and a longgggg list of others than infuriates me.  ::MonkeyMad::

O/T~have you heard from Fannie......I mailed her about a 10lb "gift" and want to see if she has it yet?

Yes & yes with much appreciation!   Ask Klaas to forward you my email with my consent

Thanks ::HelloKitty:: Check your email......


I can see how LE must have been totally confused when this was first reported and before the cell phone pings were know, can you imagine the vast array of inconsistencies and a mom who didn't even think to call the POI last seen with her child NOR the child or mother the POI stated she went to stay the night with. In all honesty I can see why the officer who answered the 911 call back in Feb of 2010 acted the way they did, LE here wouldn't be too happy if someone kept calling about a t-shirt and the possibility that her ex might want it back and needed someone to watch her back, I think she is the type that liberally used 911 for random crap.  ::pullinghairout::

OMG, I sooo agree with you. Billie is a pos, I truly believe that. I also believe Billie/Shawn & their family are behind the smoke screening. This video of Clint was from 2009, he was arrested Jan 2010. While I do believe Clint should have been in a better position with his responsibilities & maturity, especially when being a parent, imo he's not the same level of dirt scum parent that Billie Jean Dunn appears to be. When listening to him speak and reading his interview, there's a ring of truth to what he states. I definitely don't feel the same way about Billie. Clint doesn't try to hide who and what he is...but Billie does - Billie sends people out in all different directions to take the focus off of her & Shawn. What does Clint do? Clint searches for his daughter Hailey on a steady basis. Billie doesn't. Clint knows about the stupid video. Clint knows about his record being brought to everyone's attention. Clint knows people talk about him in a negative way.

... But It Doesn't Stop Him From Searching ...

I can't help but respect that. He's finally putting his daughter before himself. Billie isn't, and last I saw, neither is Shawn. After all this crap coming out about Shawn & Billie still loves him - we should be floored, furious. Then again, I'm reminded that lovers still pledged allegiance to Charles Manson. Look at the idiots that follow Joran Van derSloot, put him on a pedestal. OMG, I can't stand it. Billie is an idiot & I'm glad David isn't in her home. Hopefully he stays out until he graduates & moves as far away as he can.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 08:52:01 PM
IM - personally, I don't believe a word out of Billie's mouth

 ::rhino::

ITA.......except short tidbit, when they asked her if Hailey and Shawn had issues and she stated "not now", well that I do believe, other than that IMO she is a lying narcisisstic skank

Yup, as in its no longer a concern for the lovebirds from H...quite a few times she hasnt even realized she talked in the past tense or been cavalier in making a statement as if she has no need to be worried any longer.

Yep, I totally have gotten that vibe from her since the first day....I get so angry at these scumbags and not just in this case where the custodial parent allows monsters in, HaLeigh, Zahra, Hailey and a longgggg list of others than infuriates me.  ::MonkeyMad::

O/T~have you heard from Fannie......I mailed her about a 10lb "gift" and want to see if she has it yet?

Yes & yes with much appreciation!   Ask Klaas to forward you my email with my consent

Am I missing something? What are you guys up to? Are you sending a care package? I'm in, if so. Is Fannie ok?
::HelloKitty::

Not a care package......she is from the Gulf Coast and I sent some sand and shells, with all the bitter cold and snow I thought she'd LOL at that !

OMG, That is soo funny!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 09, 2011, 08:56:50 PM
Friendly Reminder

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Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 09, 2011, 09:14:12 PM
Think about it. IF in the past three years Clint had made the decision not to be in possession of the illegal drug that was affording him a growing criminal record ... a growing criminal record that had the ability to prevent him from acquiring meaningful employment ... he could have been in a position to seek custody of Hailey ... Hailey who wanted to live with him ... Hailey who was scared of Shawn according to Clint's own mother.

Hailey was of an age that the courts would have consider her desires if Clint had been deemed a fit parent.

However ... Clint's onging lifestyle choices revealed in that youtube video ... revealed in his criminal record ... implies that Hailey was not worth the sacrifice.

Janet

+++++


Criminal Record

Hailey Dunn: Unfolding a story of a missing teenager and her family
By Brian Bethel
Published Saturday, January 8, 2011


<snipped>

A search of website publicdata.com reveals no criminal histories for Billie Jean Dunn or for Shawn Adkins. Clint Dunn, however, has multiple arrests, starting in 1994 for burglary of a building, a state jail felony. Following that are subsequent arrests in 1998 for possession of marijuana, under 2 ounces, one in March 1999 for driving with a suspended license.

He was arrested again Jan. 30, 2010, by Snyder police for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces. And he was arrested at his home Dec. 29, again for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces, and a Scurry County warrant.

<snipped>

http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/08/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/?partner=RSS


Clint Dunn's Mother

NANCY GRACE
Hailey`s Grandmother Suspects Mother`s Boyfriend
Aired January 13, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


<snipped>

GRACE: Ms. Jones -- Ms. Jones, your theory that the live-in boyfriend sexually attacked the little girl and that he killed her when she threatened to tell -- what do you base that on?

JONES: Because Hailey had told me (INAUDIBLE) him been living there in the past that he would walk around at nighttime, and the hall light would be on, and she could see his shadow at her door, at the foot of the door. She could see his legs at the foot of the door, just at her door, just standing there. And it scared her. And I don`t know, things just don`t add up that Monday. Why would he leave his job? He didn`t quit, he just left his job. ....

GRACE: What specifically would she say, Ms. Jones?

JONES: That she was afraid of him walking around at night. She said he -- she was just afraid of him. At this time, she was only, like, 11

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/13/ng.01.html


Missing Texas Girl Hailey Dunn 'Scared' of Shawn Adkins
Grandmother Says Adkins Would Stand in Girl's Bedroom Doorway and Watch Her
Jan. 13, 2011


<snipped>

Hailey told her grandmother that Adkins would pace around the house at night, talking on his cell phone in the bathroom and peering into her bedroom.

"She had told me on a couple of occasions that...he walked around at night and she said that she could see his shadow standing at her door. She said, 'Nana, he scared me. I'm afraid he's going to come in there,'" Jones said.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/shawn-adkins-named-person-interst-case-missing-texas/story?id=12608537

That might be Janet but it does not take away from what Billie was responsible for as her childrens' mother & physical custodial parent.   As far as Clint's "growing" criminal record the only thing Ive seen reported was his marijuana possession arrest & a charge he had when he was still considered a minor, at 17 -- that not meant to be a minimizing statement.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 09:19:26 PM
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Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 09:28:27 PM
OMG, so bc of the "Gettin High" video being posted online, people are posting really nasty stuff on Clint Dunn's Facebook page.

Naomi's mom is Trish and her grandmother is Katherine.

Looks like Katherine is pretty upset, can't say I blame her.

Here's just a tiny bit of it:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=562637&id=214715745346&fbid=10150307592705347#!/permalink.php?story_fbid=199507583398729&id=100001996540056 (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=562637&id=214715745346&fbid=10150307592705347#!/permalink.php?story_fbid=199507583398729&id=100001996540056)

Snip:
Katherine Birdwell omg what the hell is this .Get real Trish did not post any video as it is not by clint and she cannot get rid of it as Brian made and posted it so let us watch the slander here folks .some body lies and since i know the facts it aint me and... that is gossip she called cps and i know who it was and it was not her .I just wish some folks would grow up and look for hailey and stop the gossip back biting as let me tell you nobody knows how much money trish naomis mother has spent on naomi and c lint dunn.i have advised her before not to pay bondsman, cell phone bills ,rent utilites, clothes .this is a crock and am very upset by it and Clint i love you very much GRow up keep your business to your self all these folks can do is tear you apart and not solve your problems and it so childish all will give advise and stab you in the back and smile in your face.what the hell do you care about a damn video and what do you think cps can do .some one needs to stop telling tales and mind there own business and you young man need to grow and keep a few problems to your self as i can guarntee you not a damn one of the women giving advice can do a damn thing Just bullshit and you can use soe one else for the drama .Next slander will be a lawsuit and believe mes she has the attorneys .Yes big boy she trish paid for you to get divorce and probation and guess what bd stopped the divorce on grounds not see hailey any more I can also promise you if you keep mouthing you will never ever see another cent of her money


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 09:30:32 PM
The link is off. I'll try this one to his wall:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=562637&id=214715745346&fbid=10150307592705347#!/profile.php?id=100001996540056&sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=562637&id=214715745346&fbid=10150307592705347#!/profile.php?id=100001996540056&sk=wall)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 09:35:52 PM
The link is off. I'll try this one to his wall:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=562637&id=214715745346&fbid=10150307592705347#!/profile.php?id=100001996540056&sk=wall

Well, at least I tried.

I sure hope all this drama doesn't hinder Clint searching for his daughter. Clint smoking weed isn't the cause of Hailey's disappearance...just a hunch...

One thing I see is Clint out searching. Maybe this has pushed him to finally grow up. That's not meant to minimize the situation, only wishful thinking. When I listen to those 911 calls over & over again, I'm reminded what a liar & manipulator Billie Jean appears to be. Clint didn't hide who he was...but...Billie continues to deny stuff even after throwing the truth in her face. Lying pos.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Kat_Gram on February 09, 2011, 09:44:23 PM
Clint has a lot to lose. He said some things about Billie and presto gizmo, that video surfaces.
............
He gains nothing by dissing them. Whatever he has to say in public from now in about them isn't going to matter in court.
..
I've never seen anyone smoke a joint like that.
I really have no issue with recreational / medicinal use of mj. But in that video, it looked like a vocation, a career. One that doesn't have a retirement plan at the end of it unless it's three hots and a cot.
I don't think that possession of a small amount is a big deal here in Canada. I don't even know what the laws are here any more for simple possession.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 09, 2011, 09:46:31 PM

That might be Janet but it does not take away from what Billie was responsible for as her childrens' mother & physical custodial parent.   As far as Clint's "growing" criminal record the only thing Ive seen reported was his marijuana possession arrest & a charge he had when he was still considered a minor, at 17 -- that not meant to be a minimizing statement.

What am I not getting?  Please read below in regards to the December/January 2010 arrests for possession of a drug that at this period in time is still considered illegal.

Obviously ... the youtube video from 2009 reveals that ongoing illegal drug use was an intregal part of Clint's lifestyle.

In my opinion ... Billie and Clint did not deserved Hailey.  They both disgust me.  Their respective lifestyle choices took priority over Hailey's well-being.  They both have to take personal responsibility for what ultimately happened to their daughter.

IMO

Janet

+++++++
     
Criminal Record

Hailey Dunn: Unfolding a story of a missing teenager and her family
By Brian Bethel
Published Saturday, January 8, 2011


<snipped>

A search of website publicdata.com reveals no criminal histories for Billie Jean Dunn or for Shawn Adkins. Clint Dunn, however, has multiple arrests, starting in 1994 for burglary of a building, a state jail felony. Following that are subsequent arrests in 1998 for possession of marijuana, under 2 ounces, one in March 1999 for driving with a suspended license.

He was arrested again Jan. 30, 2010, by Snyder police for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces. And he was arrested at his home Dec. 29, again for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces, and a Scurry County warrant.

<snipped>

http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/08/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/?partner=RSS


Clint Dunn - Getting High
 
http://www.youtube.com/embed/H_W6qHsaT1I




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on February 09, 2011, 09:49:58 PM
Clint Dunn has a Facebook page.
He is on my friends list.
I have sent him numerous e mails, privately
as a NONjudging Mom's point of view.

He responds and I feel is a genuine, loving person.
I have been encouraging him to seek help to stop the pot.
I mentioned that he MAY use it for pain, but in all
reality there are many pain management centers who will
find another avenue of PT or ? to relieve his pain.
I have also mentioned that just because he uses it for pain,
it is not legal, he IS breaking the law, and whether it relieves
his pain or not, it is not acceptable to be classified as
a responsible parent, who wants to raise a GOOD kid, and be
a positive example for the child. Society frowns upon pot smokers.
IF it were ok, it would be legal. It has proved to be a gateway drug,
for bigger and better things, which end to be NOT better, more problamatic,
and once u get hooked u are ruled by a cunning, powerful, baffling
addiction, but u can turn it around.

In all honesty, both of these parents IMO are similar to the pillbillies, but I
have hope for Clint. He speaks the truth and is honest and open.

He told me that he KNOWS that video was posted, and it was done by Naomi's Mother, after he forced to
leave his home the other day. Geez, so what kind of folks are these ? Mom,son, Dad ??
I believe firmly that we ARE all products of our environments.

He does respond and is always kind, sincere and truthful with me.
BELIEVE ME, AFTER RAISING 4 SONS, in a loving, stable home,
this addiction can happen, but u need help to know how to get out of it.

LOL: Our 35 yr. old son is clean and sober for 3 years now. When he turns around u can still my shoe left in his a*s.

Time to spend gov't. $$ to stop this vicious cycle, before it continues on for generations !



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 09:50:46 PM
Clint has a lot to lose. He said some things about Billie and presto gizmo, that video surfaces.
............
He gains nothing by dissing them. Whatever he has to say in public from now in about them isn't going to matter in court.
..
I've never seen anyone smoke a joint like that.
I really have no issue with recreational / medicinal use of mj. But in that video, it looked like a vocation, a career. One that doesn't have a retirement plan at the end of it unless it's three hots and a cot.
I don't think that possession of a small amount is a big deal here in Canada. I don't even know what the laws are here any more for simple possession.

I agree. I was disgusted when I saw the girth of the joint, and the fact it was made into a cross, but then somebody pointed out it that they duplicated what was done in the movie Pineapple Express. I'd never seen it so I had no idea.

Side note: I was sitting here watching the video once more & my just turned 17 y/o walked in...started laughing right away & told me all about Pineapple Express. I yelled at him & he laughed harder. The agida is coming back...jeesh. I hate the age of 17...uggh lol.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Kat_Gram on February 09, 2011, 10:08:50 PM
Lake Erie Princess. Your son is to be commended for quitting and for being clean and sober.
My understanding is that Clint thinks Patricia posted that video, but she didn't.
Someone called CPS. Not her or her mother.
...........
Keep in touch with Clint, I have a feeling that the hounds have been unleashed. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Bud's Girl on February 09, 2011, 10:08:57 PM
Clint has a lot to lose. He said some things about Billie and presto gizmo, that video surfaces.
............
He gains nothing by dissing them. Whatever he has to say in public from now in about them isn't going to matter in court.
..
I've never seen anyone smoke a joint like that.
I really have no issue with recreational / medicinal use of mj. But in that video, it looked like a vocation, a career. One that doesn't have a retirement plan at the end of it unless it's three hots and a cot.
I don't think that possession of a small amount is a big deal here in Canada. I don't even know what the laws are here any more for simple possession.

I agree. I was disgusted when I saw the girth of the joint, and the fact it was made into a cross, but then somebody pointed out it that they duplicated what was done in the movie Pineapple Express. I'd never seen it so I had no idea.

Side note: I was sitting here watching the video once more & my just turned 17 y/o walked in...started laughing right away & told me all about Pineapple Express. I yelled at him & he laughed harder. The agida is coming back...jeesh. I hate the age of 17...uggh lol.

BBM -- I know you are kidding, but... cherish every minute with him, warts and all.  Take it from me, you never know what the next hour may hold. 


I never saw such a joint either & didn't know the movie either, but that dude hacking was disgusting.  At least smoke it with a little class.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 10:10:26 PM

That might be Janet but it does not take away from what Billie was responsible for as her childrens' mother & physical custodial parent.   As far as Clint's "growing" criminal record the only thing Ive seen reported was his marijuana possession arrest & a charge he had when he was still considered a minor, at 17 -- that not meant to be a minimizing statement.

What am I not getting?  Please read below in regards to the December/January 2010 arrests for possession of a drug that at this period in time is still considered illegal.

Obviously ... the youtube video from 2009 reveals that ongoing illegal drug use was an intregal part of Clint's lifestyle.

In my opinion ... Billie and Clint did not deserved Hailey.  They both disgust me.  Their respective lifestyle choices took priority over Hailey's well-being.  They both have to take personal responsibility for what ultimately happened to their daughter.

IMO

Janet

+++++++
     
Criminal Record

Hailey Dunn: Unfolding a story of a missing teenager and her family
By Brian Bethel
Published Saturday, January 8, 2011


<snipped>

A search of website publicdata.com reveals no criminal histories for Billie Jean Dunn or for Shawn Adkins. Clint Dunn, however, has multiple arrests, starting in 1994 for burglary of a building, a state jail felony. Following that are subsequent arrests in 1998 for possession of marijuana, under 2 ounces, one in March 1999 for driving with a suspended license.

He was arrested again Jan. 30, 2010, by Snyder police for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces. And he was arrested at his home Dec. 29, again for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces, and a Scurry County warrant.

<snipped>

http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/08/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/?partner=RSS


Clint Dunn - Getting High
 
http://www.youtube.com/embed/H_W6qHsaT1I




I completely agree with the bolded, unequivocally agree with you. However, remember the video was uploaded to MySpace originally on December 31, 2009. Clint was charged for under 2 oz in January of 2010. Then again charged after Hailey went missing for another under 2 oz charge.

To put in perspective, the joint he was smoking in the video looked fat, especially being a cross, but would still be slightly under 2 ounces.

I agree it's worth looking into, especially to be thorough, but ultimately it's Billie that had the main responsibility. If Hailey is found deceased, or worse yet - never found at all - I think Clint will suffer the rest of his life. Will Billie? That's what pushes me over the fence. Billie is with the person that threatened and lied to her, the person that Hailey didn;t like & felt uncomfortable around, the person that David said himself "he barely knows"...yet Billie had this idiot move in with her. No matter what Clint was doing, seems as though Billie was able to earn & obtain her LVN license. Then she meets Shawn & life goes downhill. When she was with Clint, everything was on her. After Clint everything's still on her. What about Shawn? Didn;t he work? Was he helping to pay bills? If not then why was he living there. IMO, she's a mother by name only. I think she's a liar, a manipulator, and you can hear it in the voice of the cop during one of the 911 calls. I don't blame him one bit for showing unprofessionalism bc I'm telling you he handled it alot better than what I would have. My grandfather died while holding his chief of police title and he'd have slapped her with fines, made sure her kids were taken away from her, and cussed her the heck out for being a poor excuse of a mother.

Something else, note the date Jan 30, 2010 when Clint was arrested. Didn't it come out that the initial 911 call was Shaen threatening to kill Billie & Clint. The call was in February of 2010. When I put my thinking cap on, and knowing that Billie likes to play with the 911 system, I wonder if Billie called in a tip and had Clint arrested. Maybe she & Clint were fighting...seems that's how she handles her fights...by manipulating & threatening with the cops. Billie obviously stayed with these cats that do drugs, doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that she does too. I believe that 911 call from Shawn where Billie was threatening to kill herself, he stated she took a bunch of her pills & some of his Klonopin. I think Clint could probably have called the cops numerous times on Billie but he didn't and that says something to me. I have no doubt they had stuff on each other but who's the one using the le phone system...Billie. I don't respect or like her one single iota.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 09, 2011, 10:12:02 PM
(http://i52.tinypic.com/24evyw1.jpg)

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 10:18:23 PM
Clint Dunn has a Facebook page.
He is on my friends list.
I have sent him numerous e mails, privately
as a NONjudging Mom's point of view.

He responds and I feel is a genuine, loving person.
I have been encouraging him to seek help to stop the pot.
I mentioned that he MAY use it for pain, but in all
reality there are many pain management centers who will
find another avenue of PT or ? to relieve his pain.
I have also mentioned that just because he uses it for pain,
it is not legal, he IS breaking the law, and whether it relieves
his pain or not, it is not acceptable to be classified as
a responsible parent, who wants to raise a GOOD kid, and be
a positive example for the child. Society frowns upon pot smokers.
IF it were ok, it would be legal. It has proved to be a gateway drug,
for bigger and better things, which end to be NOT better, more problamatic,
and once u get hooked u are ruled by a cunning, powerful, baffling
addiction, but u can turn it around.

In all honesty, both of these parents IMO are similar to the pillbillies, but I
have hope for Clint. He speaks the truth and is honest and open.

He told me that he KNOWS that video was posted, and it was done by Naomi's Mother, after he forced to
leave his home the other day. Geez, so what kind of folks are these ? Mom,son, Dad ??
I believe firmly that we ARE all products of our environments.

He does respond and is always kind, sincere and truthful with me.
BELIEVE ME, AFTER RAISING 4 SONS, in a loving, stable home,
this addiction can happen, but u need help to know how to get out of it.

LOL: Our 35 yr. old son is clean and sober for 3 years now. When he turns around u can still my shoe left in his a*s.

Time to spend gov't. $$ to stop this vicious cycle, before it continues on for generations !



LEP, I meant to respond to your previous post and forgot. Now I just saw this and KatGram's response. I so agree with her - your son should be commended. Thank you for sharing your story. Trish's mom (Katherine) said it wasn't Trish that posted it, she said she knows it wasn't her. I think Clint is showing determination & hope he doesn't lose momentum. I wish he would just air everything out, be upfront about every single thing, let it all be digested & disected, then move on. Wish Billie would do the same but she seems to be stuck on stupid so I don't see it happening in this lifetime...especially when she's in "protect Shawn" mode.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 09, 2011, 10:27:03 PM

That might be Janet but it does not take away from what Billie was responsible for as her childrens' mother & physical custodial parent.   As far as Clint's "growing" criminal record the only thing Ive seen reported was his marijuana possession arrest & a charge he had when he was still considered a minor, at 17 -- that not meant to be a minimizing statement.

What am I not getting?  Please read below in regards to the December/January 2010 arrests for possession of a drug that at this period in time is still considered illegal.

Obviously ... the youtube video from 2009 reveals that ongoing illegal drug use was an intregal part of Clint's lifestyle.

In my opinion ... Billie and Clint did not deserved Hailey.  They both disgust me.  Their respective lifestyle choices took priority over Hailey's well-being.  They both have to take personal responsibility for what ultimately happened to their daughter.

IMO

Janet

+++++++
     
Criminal Record

Hailey Dunn: Unfolding a story of a missing teenager and her family
By Brian Bethel
Published Saturday, January 8, 2011


<snipped>

A search of website publicdata.com reveals no criminal histories for Billie Jean Dunn or for Shawn Adkins. Clint Dunn, however, has multiple arrests, starting in 1994 for burglary of a building, a state jail felony. Following that are subsequent arrests in 1998 for possession of marijuana, under 2 ounces, one in March 1999 for driving with a suspended license.

He was arrested again Jan. 30, 2010, by Snyder police for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces. And he was arrested at his home Dec. 29, again for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces, and a Scurry County warrant.

<snipped>

http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/08/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/?partner=RSS


Clint Dunn - Getting High
 
http://www.youtube.com/embed/H_W6qHsaT1I




I completely agree with the bolded, unequivocally agree with you. However, remember the video was uploaded to MySpace originally on December 31, 2009. Clint was charged for under 2 oz in January of 2010. Then again charged after Hailey went missing for another under 2 oz charge.

To put in perspective, the joint he was smoking in the video looked fat, especially being a cross, but would still be slightly under 2 ounces.

I agree it's worth looking into, especially to be thorough, but ultimately it's Billie that had the main responsibility. If Hailey is found deceased, or worse yet - never found at all - I think Clint will suffer the rest of his life. Will Billie? That's what pushes me over the fence. Billie is with the person that threatened and lied to her, the person that Hailey didn;t like & felt uncomfortable around, the person that David said himself "he barely knows"...yet Billie had this idiot move in with her. No matter what Clint was doing, seems as though Billie was able to earn & obtain her LVN license. Then she meets Shawn & life goes downhill. When she was with Clint, everything was on her. After Clint everything's still on her. What about Shawn? Didn;t he work? Was he helping to pay bills? If not then why was he living there. IMO, she's a mother by name only. I think she's a liar, a manipulator, and you can hear it in the voice of the cop during one of the 911 calls. I don't blame him one bit for showing unprofessionalism bc I'm telling you he handled it alot better than what I would have. My grandfather died while holding his chief of police title and he'd have slapped her with fines, made sure her kids were taken away from her, and cussed her the heck out for being a poor excuse of a mother.

Something else, note the date Jan 30, 2010 when Clint was arrested. Didn't it come out that the initial 911 call was Shaen threatening to kill Billie & Clint. The call was in February of 2010. When I put my thinking cap on, and knowing that Billie likes to play with the 911 system, I wonder if Billie called in a tip and had Clint arrested. Maybe she & Clint were fighting...seems that's how she handles her fights...by manipulating & threatening with the cops. Billie obviously stayed with these cats that do drugs, doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that she does too. I believe that 911 call from Shawn where Billie was threatening to kill herself, he stated she took a bunch of her pills & some of his Klonopin. I think Clint could probably have called the cops numerous times on Billie but he didn't and that says something to me. I have no doubt they had stuff on each other but who's the one using the le phone system...Billie. I don't respect or like her one single iota.

^ what she said


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 09, 2011, 10:28:08 PM
OMG, so bc of the "Gettin High" video being posted online, people are posting really nasty stuff on Clint Dunn's Facebook page.

Naomi's mom is Trish and her grandmother is Katherine.

Looks like Katherine is pretty upset, can't say I blame her.

Here's just a tiny bit of it:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=562637&id=214715745346&fbid=10150307592705347#!/permalink.php?story_fbid=199507583398729&id=100001996540056 (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=562637&id=214715745346&fbid=10150307592705347#!/permalink.php?story_fbid=199507583398729&id=100001996540056)

Snip:
Katherine Birdwell omg what the hell is this .Get real Trish did not post any video as it is not by clint and she cannot get rid of it as Brian made and posted it so let us watch the slander here folks .some body lies and since i know the facts it aint me and... that is gossip she called cps and i know who it was and it was not her .I just wish some folks would grow up and look for hailey and stop the gossip back biting as let me tell you nobody knows how much money trish naomis mother has spent on naomi and c lint dunn.i have advised her before not to pay bondsman, cell phone bills ,rent utilites, clothes .this is a crock and am very upset by it and Clint i love you very much GRow up keep your business to your self all these folks can do is tear you apart and not solve your problems and it so childish all will give advise and stab you in the back and smile in your face.what the hell do you care about a damn video and what do you think cps can do .some one needs to stop telling tales and mind there own business and you young man need to grow and keep a few problems to your self as i can guarntee you not a damn one of the women giving advice can do a damn thing Just bullshit and you can use soe one else for the drama .Next slander will be a lawsuit and believe mes she has the attorneys .Yes big boy she trish paid for you to get divorce and probation and guess what bd stopped the divorce on grounds not see hailey any more I can also promise you if you keep mouthing you will never ever see another cent of her money


i know ... his fb page is breaking my heart .... this is the status that got me ... 

Clinton Dunn
i cant take the vidieo down. patrisha trichell is the one that can take them down, shes the one that put them up.she also called c.p.s. on me to take away my other kids.all because i asked her to go home.
12 hours ago

 ::MonkeyNoNo::   sssoo sad .... *patricia trichell is naomi's mom ... apparently clint asked her to leave a "gathering cuz she was starting drama" and this was her retaliation ...

Clinton Dunn
i asked patricia to go home a few min. ago. all shes doing is hurting me more.she is a drama queen.this is my daughter were looking for and trish is making things worse for us.will yall please tell her to go home.
February 5 at 10:13am ·

WHERE IS THIS BEAUTIFUL CHILD????


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 09, 2011, 10:30:33 PM
Sorry Tich ... I just gave the "lead ins" ....

I just wish none of this mattered and everyone would just stop and focus 100% on Hailey ... 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 09, 2011, 10:31:35 PM
Sorry *Titch ... I just gave the "lead ins" ....

I just wish none of this mattered and everyone would just stop and focus 100% on Hailey ... 

I swear I hit that lil ole "t" key    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 10:51:23 PM
Sorry *Titch ... I just gave the "lead ins" ....

I just wish none of this mattered and everyone would just stop and focus 100% on Hailey ... 

I swear I hit that lil ole "t" key    ::MonkeyCool::

This is so sad. Where is Hailey? How can somebody even begin to find her in such a vast area? Omg it such a sad situation. These people have no money. Look at the city data info and stats. Median house income in 2009 was $26,846 & median house value in 2009 was $45,012. Are you kidding me? I understand the cost of living may be lower in that area but this is below poverty level. No wonder there are drug issues and such. I mean, it's no excuse, but oh my gosh that is so sad.

For anyone interested:
http://www.city-data.com/city/Colorado-City-Texas.html

In 2009 they had 7 cops employed. I wonder how much Billie Dunn utilized them & if they asked for a raise after their experiences with her.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 10:55:08 PM
Lake Erie Princess, could you please ask Clint if he can post some pictures of Hailey playing softball, or volleyball, or something other than cheerleading? I love her smile in the picture with her grandmom, father, & rest of the family. It was genuine, you could tell...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on February 09, 2011, 11:00:07 PM
Lake Erie Princess. Your son is to be commended for quitting and for being clean and sober.
My understanding is that Clint thinks Patricia posted that video, but she didn't.
Someone called CPS. Not her or her mother.
...........
Keep in touch with Clint, I have a feeling that the hounds have been unleashed. 
Thnx for the compliment.
I KNOW we raised these
4 guys right. It was old school morals and values the whole way !
Tommy has said he would luv to go to TX. and get this guy help.
His mj went to alcohol, cocaine, and crack in the final stages.
We r lucky to have him, alive, & normal IQ.

These calls to CPS and the videos are a game.
This situation regarding Haley missing is serious. Whoever posted that pot video of Clint & called
CPS, needs to direct that energy towards looking for Hailey, instead of these malicious games.

I sit on the side lines and wonder why there r such messed people like this ? Parenting, breaking the cycle must stop. We need to stop this by beginning education NOW, to stop this cycle !

WE ARE ALL PRODUCTS OF OUR ENVIRONMENT !


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 09, 2011, 11:01:59 PM

 ::snipping2::

I read on Peter's blog (comments section) that the reason Clint didn't call in for the second phone interview (when Dr Glass was on) was because Billie's mom posted on Facebook that if Clint airs Billie's dirty laundry, then they'll do the same.

 ::snipping2::



It was a deceased Hailey who was taken from her home by Shawn Adkins on the morning of December 27th and ... Billie and Clint know it.

Why are both of Hailey's parents distancing who investigators have determined is the main suspect?

Is there a game being played ... a game that has nothing to do with justice for Hailey ... a game called "IF YOU TELL ON ME ... I'LL TELL ON YOU".

Janet

+++++ 


Witness Statements Cannot Be Validated

VIDEO: Billie Dunn Tries To Dispell Rumors Surrounding Her Daughter's Disappearance
POSTED: 6:26 pm CST January 31, 2011
UPDATED: 10:40 pm CST January 31, 2011


<snipped>

Billie Dunn believes the last time her daughter was seen was December 27th at 8:30 p.m. by a neighbor, who claims she saw Hailey with the friend she said she was spending the night with, and a teenage boy.

Colorado City City Manager Pete Kampfer says the witness statements mentioned by Billie could not be validated.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26683573/detail.html


Suspicions Lead to Shawn Adkins

VIDEO: Billie Dunn Tries To Dispell Rumors Surrounding Her Daughter's Disappearance
POSTED: 6:26 pm CST January 31, 2011
UPDATED: 10:40 pm CST January 31, 2011

<snipped>

Billie expressed frustration with Police that they have not named other suspects, to which Kampfer responded, "Right now, we have lots of suspicion, things that are put together that lead to a person of interest, Shawn Adkins."

He said at this time Law Enforcement may not want to name anyone else, because they don't want to tip off other persons of interest on their investigation.

He added that Billie Dunn is not a person of interest in her daughter's case.

<snipped>

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=post;topic=9340.920;num_replies=935


It was Cold Outside

Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's DisappearanceBy Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 2:17 pm CST January 12, 2011


<snipped>

Law enforcement officials detailed what Hailey left behind at her home: cash, a toothbrush, hairbrush, contact solution, a new MP3 player – and a jacket that friends say she would not have left home without.

The weather was cold outside, but Adkins said he last saw Hailey leaving without the jacket and the personal items.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html





Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on February 09, 2011, 11:02:06 PM
Lake Erie Princess, could you please ask Clint if he can post some pictures of Hailey playing softball, or volleyball, or something other than cheerleading? I love her smile in the picture with her grandmom, father, & rest of the family. It was genuine, you could tell...
Sure I will. Any of us with a FB page can request his friendship. It is a God send for moral support. I cannot even imagine being in the shoes those people, not knowing and hanging in limbo all of these days !


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on February 09, 2011, 11:07:45 PM
Titch ~ Thnx to u also for the nice words.
I do not know how I got through his drug addiction, but we all did !
I try to pass the message as much as I can.

EVEN if u have to snitch and put your own child in jail,
to force them to face their addiction, it can be done !
And, I AM living proof of the survival.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 09, 2011, 11:10:18 PM
Titch ~ Thnx to u also for the nice words.
I do not know how I got through his drug addiction, but we all did !
I try to pass the message as much as I can.

EVEN if u have to snitch and put your own child in jail,
to force them to face their addiction, it can be done !
And, I AM living proof of the survival.

God bless you both


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: melisb on February 09, 2011, 11:17:06 PM
IM...hello neighbor!  Ya know, I'm glad you brought up SA maybe liking young girls!  Look at BD she is tiny with a child like figure.  You bet I think he's fantasized about little girls before.  Now this is my opinion based upon 2-3 different people talking about him outside Hailey's bedroom door and the shape of Billie.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 11:34:29 PM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?


So, now we're hearing things that could end up maybe ringing some truth to the email sent to you.

We now know that Brian Glasco was with Trish (Naomi's mom).

We hear Hailey's aunt saying that Hailey called her a couple of days before she disappeared and was crying...something about an altercation.

I'd like to hear about Shawn's dad that supposedly works at the same place Shawn did and if he was at work that entire day.

I don't agree that Nancy Grace paid $5,000 per interview - she doesn't do that...and trust me, she's not my favorite show to watch but she does get these stories out there in the public's eye.

I do believe Billie & Shawn were doing drugs bc it's already noted in the affidavit that they purchased illegal narcotics with money taken out at the atm. I'm certain the police have proof of them informing that bit of info.

I don't believe Billie and/or Shawn were in the hole for a $10,000 drug debt. No drug dealer in a small poverty stricken town such as theirs would let that kind of money in cash and/or drugs be fronted...no way no how.

We know Billie & Shawn shared an interest in true crime. Well what does Hailey's case remind you of...HaLeigh Cummings' case. Smoke screening, drug deal gone bad, in the hole for a drug debt, pointing the finger at everyone except who the finger really should be pointed at, low income people, low income town, step family members and half family members being with other family members making what used to be an uncle a grandfather, omg the list goes on.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Kat_Gram on February 09, 2011, 11:37:33 PM
Ok, I just finished reading some stuff. FB stuff. Don't even know whose. Started with Trish.
On the show on Monday when Billie was on, there was a chat room where q's were being asked. I saw it, not here and I wasn't looking at it every second, in fact only heard and saw the last little bit of her interview that night.
..
The name Brian Glasco came up in the chat from a poster. Then it went viral. Now we have all this deflection from BD & SA. So, what or why would Trish do that ? Why would she call CPS ? Not in her interests to do any of that. Not good for her daughter / granddaughter.   
..
Who do you think benefits from this drama and that video to shift attention ?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 11:40:35 PM
IM...hello neighbor!  Ya know, I'm glad you brought up SA maybe liking young girls!  Look at BD she is tiny with a child like figure.  You bet I think he's fantasized about little girls before.  Now this is my opinion based upon 2-3 different people talking about him outside Hailey's bedroom door and the shape of Billie.

OMG I so agree!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 11:42:35 PM
Klass or Muffy, could you please delete a post. I accidentally posted twice bc my computer got hung up. 797 or 799. Thank you.

DONE - removed 799


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 09, 2011, 11:50:11 PM
Ok, I just finished reading some stuff. FB stuff. Don't even know whose. Started with Trish.
On the show on Monday when Billie was on, there was a chat room where q's were being asked. I saw it, not here and I wasn't looking at it every second, in fact only heard and saw the last little bit of her interview that night.
..
The name Brian Glasco came up in the chat from a poster. Then it went viral. Now we have all this deflection from BD & SA. So, what or why would Trish do that ? Why would she call CPS ? Not in her interests to do any of that. Not good for her daughter / granddaughter.   
..
Who do you think benefits from this drama and that video to shift attention ?

Billie & Shawn and their respective families benefit from it. I don't believe it was Trish that called CPS, not at all. I'm starting to wonder exactly how bad and deep these people's records go.

Have we posted Billie's mom's record yet? Didn't Billie state after she & Shawn went to the ATM that they stopped at her mom's house? I'm trying to remember...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: curiousone on February 09, 2011, 11:55:45 PM
Ok, I just finished reading some stuff. FB stuff. Don't even know whose. Started with Trish.
On the show on Monday when Billie was on, there was a chat room where q's were being asked. I saw it, not here and I wasn't looking at it every second, in fact only heard and saw the last little bit of her interview that night.
..
The name Brian Glasco came up in the chat from a poster. Then it went viral. Now we have all this deflection from BD & SA. So, what or why would Trish do that ? Why would she call CPS ? Not in her interests to do any of that. Not good for her daughter / granddaughter.   
..
Who do you think benefits from this drama and that video to shift attention ?

Billie & Shawn and their respective families benefit from it. I don't believe it was Trish that called CPS, not at all. I'm starting to wonder exactly how bad and deep these people's records go.

Have we posted Billie's mom's record yet? Didn't Billie state after she & Shawn went to the ATM that they stopped at her mom's house? I'm trying to remember...

This is all getting very sickening.  I do agree, the only ones that benefit are the ones who are deflecting away from Hailey.  And there is only one reason why.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: melisb on February 09, 2011, 11:58:48 PM
I really feel sorry for CD.  He's just a dumb hick that thought he could tell the truth about himself and all be okay but the backasswood peeps from there won't let it be.  It's always a dumb idea to admit your faults/habits to the public but I've always admired that.  I wanna see warts and all to know what I am dealing with.  LEP, if you talk to Clint again please remind him, I'm sure he knows, that Naomi and the baby recieve gov. assistance and it will get them kicked off or him out for his drug convictions.  That is why they had to move isn't it?  I just feel so bad for him.  So, LEP it sounds like you are giving good caring advice please keep it up he needs it.  Thank you.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: curiousone on February 09, 2011, 11:59:04 PM
Titch, yes, after the ATM withdrawal Billie said they went to her mother's house.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 10, 2011, 12:23:37 AM
Thanks Klaas for fixing that...also sorry I spelled you hat wrong. Tired & going to be, sweet dreams everyone.



One thing before I go, Trish posted this on the Hailey Dunn Open Discussion FB site. If the hyper link is cut off in the middle, just copy & paste the whole thing in your browser:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905#!/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905

Snip:
Patricia Trichel hailey dunn has good people in her life as well as bad....some things r being blown out of preportion.clint loves his daughter with as nuch love as any good father does.im speaking in present tense as we will believe she is with us until pr...oof otherwise!we all make mistakes and im sure even u have skeletons in your closet!connie clint naomi lajohnna and many aunts uncles cousins and other grandmas love her!lets rememember u r not getting the entire story cause people pick it apart and change meanings.we all started out to show how much we love hailey ..............PLEASE LETS STICK WITH THAT!"LEAVE THE JUDGEMENT TO GOD"THE PROSECUTION TO THE POLICE....IF ANY OF YOU FEEL NEITHER R DOING A GOOD JOB TALK TO GOD R LAW INFORCEMENT!PLEASE WE HAVE HURT ENOUGH ALREADY!-----------------------------HAILEY DUNNS SMILE SAYS IT ALL......she was not unhappy..no more so than any other 13 year old girl......praying the people who read this r open minded loving caring and understanding!unless you know who did whatever has happened to our HAY HAY......THEN U KNOW NO MORE THAN US,WE R TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER A NATION LETS KEEP IT THAT WAY!!!!!!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 10, 2011, 12:32:27 AM
Thanks Klaas for fixing that...also sorry I spelled you hat wrong. Tired & going to be, sweet dreams everyone.



One thing before I go, Trish posted this on the Hailey Dunn Open Discussion FB site. If the hyper link is cut off in the middle, just copy & paste the whole thing in your browser:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905#!/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905

Snip:
Patricia Trichel hailey dunn has good people in her life as well as bad....some things r being blown out of preportion.clint loves his daughter with as nuch love as any good father does.im speaking in present tense as we will believe she is with us until pr...oof otherwise!we all make mistakes and im sure even u have skeletons in your closet!connie clint naomi lajohnna and many aunts uncles cousins and other grandmas love her!lets rememember u r not getting the entire story cause people pick it apart and change meanings.we all started out to show how much we love hailey ..............PLEASE LETS STICK WITH THAT!"LEAVE THE JUDGEMENT TO GOD"THE PROSECUTION TO THE POLICE....IF ANY OF YOU FEEL NEITHER R DOING A GOOD JOB TALK TO GOD R LAW INFORCEMENT!PLEASE WE HAVE HURT ENOUGH ALREADY!-----------------------------HAILEY DUNNS SMILE SAYS IT ALL......she was not unhappy..no more so than any other 13 year old girl......praying the people who read this r open minded loving caring and understanding!unless you know who did whatever has happened to our HAY HAY......THEN U KNOW NO MORE THAN US,WE R TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER A NATION LETS KEEP IT THAT WAY!!!!!!


Nite Titch ... I'm an outtie too .... I applaud Trish's post ... I really do ... BUT it is mud slinging amongst family members that has fueled this fire.  Let's hope this latest post puts it out ...

Now where the heck is Hailey?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Puzzler on February 10, 2011, 01:36:07 AM
Casey - habitual liar...changes story to fit her needs

Misty - habitual liar...changes story to fit her needs

Terri - habitual liar...changes story to fit her needs

Billie - habitual liar...changes story to fit her needs

Yep....DISGUSTING


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on February 10, 2011, 02:45:36 AM
Nite all !
I need to sleep. All of this stuff back and forth
makes me feel like a ping pong ball gone wild !

The more I read, the more confused I get.
LE needs to lock someone up for a trivial reason,
as they did Elisa and squeeze 'em for answers.

Save me a banana for am !


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 10, 2011, 11:00:46 AM

Ok, I just finished reading some stuff. FB stuff. Don't even know whose. Started with Trish.
 
On the show on Monday when Billie was on, there was a chat room where q's were being asked. I saw it, not here and I wasn't looking at it every second, in fact only heard and saw the last little bit of her interview that night.
..
The name Brian Glasco came up in the chat from a poster. Then it went viral. Now we have all this deflection from BD & SA. So, what or why would Trish do that ? Why would she call CPS ? Not in her interests to do any of that. Not good for her daughter / granddaughter.   
..
Who do you think benefits from this drama and that video to shift attention ?

Kat_Gram

Maybe Trish is a grandmother who is sincerely worried about the environment that Naomi's children are living in.  In other words ... her grandbabies are priority concern.

Trish's mother reveals that her daughter ... to a large extent ... is financially supporting that household.

Janet

+++++



OMG, so bc of the "Gettin High" video being posted online, people are posting really nasty stuff on Clint Dunn's Facebook page.

Naomi's mom is Trish and her grandmother is Katherine.

Looks like Katherine is pretty upset, can't say I blame her.

Here's just a tiny bit of it:

 ::snipping2::

Snip:
Katherine Birdwell omg what the hell is this .Get real Trish did not post any video as it is not by clint and she cannot get rid of it as Brian made and posted it so let us watch the slander here folks .some body lies and since i know the facts it aint me and... that is gossip she called cps and i know who it was and it was not her .I just wish some folks would grow up and look for hailey and stop the gossip back biting as let me tell you nobody knows how much money trish naomis mother has spent on naomi and c lint dunn.i have advised her before not to pay bondsman, cell phone bills ,rent utilites, clothes  .this is a crock and am very upset by it and Clint i love you very much GRow up keep your business to your self all these folks can do is tear you apart and not solve your problems and it so childish all will give advise and stab you in the back and smile in your face.what the hell do you care about a damn video and what do you think cps can do .some one needs to stop telling tales and mind there own business and you young man need to grow and keep a few problems to your self as i can guarntee you not a damn one of the women giving advice can do a damn thing Just bullshit and you can use soe one else for the drama .Next slander will be a lawsuit and believe mes she has the attorneys .Yes big boy she trish paid for you to get divorce and probation  and guess what bd stopped the divorce on grounds not see hailey any more I can also promise you if you keep mouthing you will never ever see another cent of her money


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 10, 2011, 11:19:12 AM
Considering in respective interviews ... Clint and Billie for their own respective motives  are distancing Shawn from implication in the disappearance of their daughter ... I am counting on those within the investigation to connect the dots.  I believe the connecting of dots will reveal the truth and ... justice for Hailey will be realized.

I contend that the origin of the 2:00 PM text message to Mary Beth will be the catalyst and ... Shawn Adkins will be arrested and charged as the main suspect in the Hailey Dunn case with or without a body.

Janet

++++++

DISTANCING SHAWN

Billie Dunn

Billie Jean Dunn Press Conference, January 31, 2011, Transcribed

((snipped))

I do not understand why they seem to have disregarded all of the witnesses who have come forward to say they saw Hailey on Monday, December 27th.

Two of my neighbors came forward to say they saw Hailey in my back yard around noon.

Another neighbor said he saw Hailey and a small dark boy, probably Naomi’s son, two times between 10:30 and noon.

A woman who knows Hailey, and the friend she was supposed to spend the night with, saw them both walking together in front of Alco around 8:30pm. This woman was returning a movie to the Redbox, and passed by them. She still had a receipt, and brought it by and showed it to me the other day, with the date of the 27th, and the time of 8:36.

((snipped))

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/01/31/hailey-dunn-billie-jean-dunn-press-conference-january-31-transcription-1/


VIDEO: Billie Dunn Tries To Dispell Rumors Surrounding Her Daughter's Disappearance
POSTED: 6:26 pm CST January 31, 2011
UPDATED: 10:40 pm CST January 31, 2011


<snipped>

Billie expressed frustration with Police that they have not named other suspects, to which Kampfer responded, "Right now, we have lots of suspicion, things that are put together that lead to a person of interest, Shawn Adkins."

<snipped>

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=post;topic=9340.920;num_replies=935


Clint Dunn

Adkins "Needs to Help Find Hailey" Father Says
Tuesday, February 08 2011


<snipped>

As the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance ends his silence, Hailey's father has something to say about Shawn Adkins.

"Instead of spending money on a lawyer he needs to spend money on trying to find Hailey," said Clint Dunn.

Adkins, Hailey's mother's once live-in boyfriend told KTAB in an exclusive interview that he maintains his innocence, and Clint says although he believes Adkins is sincere.

"He needs to help find Hailey," said Clint, "so he can get the heat off of him."

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339996



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 10, 2011, 11:24:32 AM
Klass/Mod

Please insert <snipped> before and after the first quote in my last post.

Thanks

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 10, 2011, 01:53:29 PM
What has been revealed regarding the dynamics of both Clint and Billie's lifestyle choices ...  implies that as a grandmother looking on I would be a broken woman.

With a heavy heart ... for the well-being of the children ... I would be seeking advice regarding an intervention.

Is there one Monkey on this forum who would be comfortable if his/her child/grandchild were to spend time in either Clint or Billie's home?  My heart goes out to Hailey, David, Chloe and Naomi's young son.  They are no less worthy. 

Janet
 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 10, 2011, 02:00:29 PM

Ok, I just finished reading some stuff. FB stuff. Don't even know whose. Started with Trish.
 
On the show on Monday when Billie was on, there was a chat room where q's were being asked. I saw it, not here and I wasn't looking at it every second, in fact only heard and saw the last little bit of her interview that night.
..
The name Brian Glasco came up in the chat from a poster. Then it went viral. Now we have all this deflection from BD & SA. So, what or why would Trish do that ? Why would she call CPS ? Not in her interests to do any of that. Not good for her daughter / granddaughter.   
..
Who do you think benefits from this drama and that video to shift attention ?

Kat_Gram

Maybe Trish is a grandmother who is sincerely worried about the environment that Naomi's children are living in.  In other words ... her grandbabies are priority concern.

Trish's mother reveals that her daughter ... to a large extent ... is financially supporting that household.

Janet

+++++



OMG, so bc of the "Gettin High" video being posted online, people are posting really nasty stuff on Clint Dunn's Facebook page.

Naomi's mom is Trish and her grandmother is Katherine.

Looks like Katherine is pretty upset, can't say I blame her.

Here's just a tiny bit of it:

 ::snipping2::

Snip:
Katherine Birdwell omg what the hell is this .Get real Trish did not post any video as it is not by clint and she cannot get rid of it as Brian made and posted it so let us watch the slander here folks .some body lies and since i know the facts it aint me and... that is gossip she called cps and i know who it was and it was not her .I just wish some folks would grow up and look for hailey and stop the gossip back biting as let me tell you nobody knows how much money trish naomis mother has spent on naomi and c lint dunn.i have advised her before not to pay bondsman, cell phone bills ,rent utilites, clothes  .this is a crock and am very upset by it and Clint i love you very much GRow up keep your business to your self all these folks can do is tear you apart and not solve your problems and it so childish all will give advise and stab you in the back and smile in your face.what the hell do you care about a damn video and what do you think cps can do .some one needs to stop telling tales and mind there own business and you young man need to grow and keep a few problems to your self as i can guarntee you not a damn one of the women giving advice can do a damn thing Just bullshit and you can use soe one else for the drama .Next slander will be a lawsuit and believe mes she has the attorneys .Yes big boy she trish paid for you to get divorce and probation  and guess what bd stopped the divorce on grounds not see hailey any more I can also promise you if you keep mouthing you will never ever see another cent of her money


Kinda pot calling kettle black since Naomi's mom Trish was married to Brian Glasco who is in fact in the video with Clint, I find it hypocritical...... ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 10, 2011, 02:24:33 PM

Ok, I just finished reading some stuff. FB stuff. Don't even know whose. Started with Trish.
 
On the show on Monday when Billie was on, there was a chat room where q's were being asked. I saw it, not here and I wasn't looking at it every second, in fact only heard and saw the last little bit of her interview that night.
..
The name Brian Glasco came up in the chat from a poster. Then it went viral. Now we have all this deflection from BD & SA. So, what or why would Trish do that ? Why would she call CPS ? Not in her interests to do any of that. Not good for her daughter / granddaughter.   
..
Who do you think benefits from this drama and that video to shift attention ?

Kat_Gram

Maybe Trish is a grandmother who is sincerely worried about the environment that Naomi's children are living in.  In other words ... her grandbabies are priority concern.

Trish's mother reveals that her daughter ... to a large extent ... is financially supporting that household.

Janet

+++++



OMG, so bc of the "Gettin High" video being posted online, people are posting really nasty stuff on Clint Dunn's Facebook page.

Naomi's mom is Trish and her grandmother is Katherine.

Looks like Katherine is pretty upset, can't say I blame her.

Here's just a tiny bit of it:

 ::snipping2::

Snip:
Katherine Birdwell omg what the hell is this .Get real Trish did not post any video as it is not by clint and she cannot get rid of it as Brian made and posted it so let us watch the slander here folks .some body lies and since i know the facts it aint me and... that is gossip she called cps and i know who it was and it was not her .I just wish some folks would grow up and look for hailey and stop the gossip back biting as let me tell you nobody knows how much money trish naomis mother has spent on naomi and c lint dunn.i have advised her before not to pay bondsman, cell phone bills ,rent utilites, clothes  .this is a crock and am very upset by it and Clint i love you very much GRow up keep your business to your self all these folks can do is tear you apart and not solve your problems and it so childish all will give advise and stab you in the back and smile in your face.what the hell do you care about a damn video and what do you think cps can do .some one needs to stop telling tales and mind there own business and you young man need to grow and keep a few problems to your self as i can guarntee you not a damn one of the women giving advice can do a damn thing Just bullshit and you can use soe one else for the drama .Next slander will be a lawsuit and believe mes she has the attorneys .Yes big boy she trish paid for you to get divorce and probation  and guess what bd stopped the divorce on grounds not see hailey any more I can also promise you if you keep mouthing you will never ever see another cent of her money


Kinda pot calling kettle black since Naomi's mom Trish was married to Brian Glasco who is in fact in the video with Clint, I find it hypocritical...... ::MonkeyShovel::

I agree.  I do not pretend to understand the family dynamics.

However ... could it be from a grandmother's perspective ... Trish was attempting to do the right by her grandkids when she provided financial support to Clint and Naomi and the children ...  when she allegedly reported her daughter to CPS.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: melisb on February 10, 2011, 02:36:21 PM
Janet you are trully what I would call a respectable woman.  Prolly a fantastic wife and Mother!  I know you are from a different generation(I don't necessarily mean age either)and probably a different class of people than those we are discussing here.  Dynamics you say?  If by that you mean, Trish went with B. Glasco, Naomi is with Clint, where do you think Hailey would have ended up.  Not dynamics, white trash! It just goes down the line like that.  There are those wonderful folks who want out and get out and I applaud them for that.  Very strong people. Sorry but I live in white trashville.  They even call my area the redneck riviera!  I do like Clint, don't get me wrong, he just isn't smart enough to know when to shut up!  Please take no offense at anything I have said cause I'm giving you mad props! lol


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 10, 2011, 02:53:28 PM
Janet you are trully what I would call a respectable woman.  Prolly a fantastic wife and Mother!  I know you are from a different generation(I don't necessarily mean age either)and probably a different class of people than those we are discussing here.  Dynamics you say?  If by that you mean, Trish went with B. Glasco, Naomi is with Clint, where do you think Hailey would have ended up.  Not dynamics, white trash! It just goes down the line like that.  There are those wonderful folks who want out and get out and I applaud them for that.  Very strong people. Sorry but I live in white trashville.  They even call my area the redneck riviera!  I do like Clint, don't get me wrong, he just isn't smart enough to know when to shut up!  Please take no offense at anything I have said cause I'm giving you mad props! lol

melisb

This is why I somehow believe that Trish ... although caught up herself in the cycle of dysfunction ... she is somehow making an attempt to break through that cycle for her grandkids sake.  Could it be that assisting Clint and Naomi financially is a way to assure those children are provided for?  Could the alleged call to CPS to report her daughter was an effort to free her grandkids from an enviroment that is not beneficial for their well-being?

I don't know.  I just know what I would feel and what I would attempt if Chloe and her young brother were my precious grandkids.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 10, 2011, 03:00:01 PM
Janet you are trully what I would call a respectable woman.  Prolly a fantastic wife and Mother!  I know you are from a different generation(I don't necessarily mean age either)and probably a different class of people than those we are discussing here.  Dynamics you say?  If by that you mean, Trish went with B. Glasco, Naomi is with Clint, where do you think Hailey would have ended up.  Not dynamics, white trash! It just goes down the line like that.  There are those wonderful folks who want out and get out and I applaud them for that.  Very strong people. Sorry but I live in white trashville.  They even call my area the redneck riviera!  I do like Clint, don't get me wrong, he just isn't smart enough to know when to shut up!  Please take no offense at anything I have said cause I'm giving you mad props! lol

Obviously ... you have not talked to the proverbial fly who has been an ******* on our wall over the years.

Have a good day melisb.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Northern Rose on February 10, 2011, 03:29:49 PM
Professional Searchers Returning to Colorado City

Two national missing child search organizations are returning to Colorado City next week for a in the hopes of finding Hailey Dunn, who has been missing since Dec. 27.

The Laura Recovery Center and KlaasKids came to help organize searches last month and will do the same on Feb. 18, 19 and 20.

 ::snipping2::

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=340716


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: melisb on February 10, 2011, 03:51:53 PM
Janet you are trully what I would call a respectable woman.  Prolly a fantastic wife and Mother!  I know you are from a different generation(I don't necessarily mean age either)and probably a different class of people than those we are discussing here.  Dynamics you say?  If by that you mean, Trish went with B. Glasco, Naomi is with Clint, where do you think Hailey would have ended up.  Not dynamics, white trash! It just goes down the line like that.  There are those wonderful folks who want out and get out and I applaud them for that.  Very strong people. Sorry but I live in white trashville.  They even call my area the redneck riviera!  I do like Clint, don't get me wrong, he just isn't smart enough to know when to shut up!  Please take no offense at anything I have said cause I'm giving you mad props! lol

melisb

This is why I somehow believe that Trish ... although caught up herself in the cycle of dysfunction ... she is somehow making an attempt to break through that cycle for her grandkids sake.  Could it be that assisting Clint and Naomi financially is a way to assure those children are provided for?  Could the alleged call to CPS to report her daughter was an effort to free her grandkids from an enviroment that is not beneficial for their well-being?

I don't know.  I just know what I would feel and what I would attempt if Chloe and her young brother were my precious grandkids.

Janet

Yes ma'am you are probably right.  It takes a toll on someone to have to support grown folks who need to grow up themselves but yes, helping to support them does ensure they have what they need and can keep a roof over that babies head.  My Momma would do the same no matter what age if I wasn't able to live like I should be but mine is so sweet she gives even though it's not needed.  You know how you caring, sweet Mommies are!  Oh, I love my Momma so much and she has been so good to me and accepting of me and all my faults!!  If only that sweet little Hailey had a Mom like mine or like you!  Can you imagine how far she would have gone in life?  Not downing what she was born into cause even less fortunate(money wise) folks have overcome and succeeded and became all they wanted to be.  I just wouldn't want her to end up in that small town trap that happens to some of those good little girls sometime...BF, baby, moving around a lot, BF gone, just hard for a young girl, well it's just hard on anyone if way too young and not planned out.  See you guys later, gotta go back to work.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 10, 2011, 04:52:38 PM
Janet you are trully what I would call a respectable woman.  Prolly a fantastic wife and Mother!  I know you are from a different generation(I don't necessarily mean age either)and probably a different class of people than those we are discussing here.  Dynamics you say?  If by that you mean, Trish went with B. Glasco, Naomi is with Clint, where do you think Hailey would have ended up.  Not dynamics, white trash! It just goes down the line like that.  There are those wonderful folks who want out and get out and I applaud them for that.  Very strong people. Sorry but I live in white trashville.  They even call my area the redneck riviera!  I do like Clint, don't get me wrong, he just isn't smart enough to know when to shut up!  Please take no offense at anything I have said cause I'm giving you mad props! lol

 ::MonkeyDevil::

BBM~you must definitely be EXTREMELY closed to me if you live on the redneck riviera ::MonkeyTongue:: I wonder how Trish can explain keeping her daughter around Brian as I am sure the dope habit for him is not a new one so she had to exposed Naomi to it as a child/teenager.

I may disagree with him getting high on camera but know alot of ppl who use pot every now and then and not one has had CPS or DCF called on them, usually when they get in narcotics and street drugs like meth, coke, crack etc are when DCF is called in......that being said I don't know any of those ppl who would use in front of their kids and they call have kids 20+ and up, and I am willing to bet Hailey surely witnessed alot of drugs and alcohol in her short 13 yrs than I have with a druggie brother in 43 yrs. I do admire Clint for at the least being honest about his drug use (well- kinda, he stated it was for pain), but between the two I see him as the more honest parent IMO and he has been out searching, meets with the searchers and prays with them, a he77 of a lot more than Billie is doing.......granted Hailey prolly never had a chance and she overcomed so much, I do think she was in to alot of activities just to have an excuse to not be home though ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 10, 2011, 04:58:28 PM
Janet you are trully what I would call a respectable woman.  Prolly a fantastic wife and Mother!  I know you are from a different generation(I don't necessarily mean age either)and probably a different class of people than those we are discussing here.  Dynamics you say?  If by that you mean, Trish went with B. Glasco, Naomi is with Clint, where do you think Hailey would have ended up.  Not dynamics, white trash! It just goes down the line like that.  There are those wonderful folks who want out and get out and I applaud them for that.  Very strong people. Sorry but I live in white trashville.  They even call my area the redneck riviera!  I do like Clint, don't get me wrong, he just isn't smart enough to know when to shut up!  Please take no offense at anything I have said cause I'm giving you mad props! lol

melisb

This is why I somehow believe that Trish ... although caught up herself in the cycle of dysfunction ... she is somehow making an attempt to break through that cycle for her grandkids sake.  Could it be that assisting Clint and Naomi financially is a way to assure those children are provided for?  Could the alleged call to CPS to report her daughter was an effort to free her grandkids from an enviroment that is not beneficial for their well-being?

I don't know.  I just know what I would feel and what I would attempt if Chloe and her young brother were my precious grandkids.

Janet

I do have one question, how much financial support was she giving them? Just curious as they were living in section 8 housing and about 4 weeks ago Naomi and Chloe were sick and needed antibiotics, yet had no money to pick them up-at first I thought surely someone would help, but I offered and when I called the pharmacy they were over 120 dollars, so I understand why they had trouble payng for those to be honest, but why not help with a RX for her own grandbaby? I can understand not enabling them with alot of things, but IIRC they had no car, no place to stay, no money, nothing..........and Chloe is about 4 months old so what financial support was Trish really giving?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 10, 2011, 05:05:34 PM
 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

Honestly I am so past the point of even knowing where to begin anymore

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/hailey-dunns-life-impacted-by-drugs.html
 ::snipping2::

We heard that David's father is in prison for drugs, leaving Hailey's brother bereft of a father's influence. This would mean that David would be raised without a father because of drugs. His life would then in turn impact Hailey's.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 10, 2011, 05:18:34 PM
Janet you are trully what I would call a respectable woman.  Prolly a fantastic wife and Mother!  I know you are from a different generation(I don't necessarily mean age either)and probably a different class of people than those we are discussing here.  Dynamics you say?  If by that you mean, Trish went with B. Glasco, Naomi is with Clint, where do you think Hailey would have ended up.  Not dynamics, white trash! It just goes down the line like that.  There are those wonderful folks who want out and get out and I applaud them for that.  Very strong people. Sorry but I live in white trashville.  They even call my area the redneck riviera!  I do like Clint, don't get me wrong, he just isn't smart enough to know when to shut up!  Please take no offense at anything I have said cause I'm giving you mad props! lol

 ::MonkeyDevil::

BBM~you must definitely be EXTREMELY closed to me if you live on the redneck riviera ::MonkeyTongue:: I wonder how Trish can explain keeping her daughter around Brian as I am sure the dope habit for him is not a new one so she had to exposed Naomi to it as a child/teenager.

I may disagree with him getting high on camera but know alot of ppl who use pot every now and then and not one has had CPS or DCF called on them, usually when they get in narcotics and street drugs like meth, coke, crack etc are when DCF is called in......that being said I don't know any of those ppl who would use in front of their kids and they call have kids 20+ and up, and I am willing to bet Hailey surely witnessed alot of drugs and alcohol in her short 13 yrs than I have with a druggie brother in 43 yrs. I do admire Clint for at the least being honest about his drug use (well- kinda, he stated it was for pain), but between the two I see him as the more honest parent IMO and he has been out searching, meets with the searchers and prays with them, a he77 of a lot more than Billie is doing.......granted Hailey prolly never had a chance and she overcomed so much, I do think she was in to alot of activities just to have an excuse to not be home though ::MonkeyNoNo::



Ding! Quite a bit of pot calling kettle & childish blame game going on.   Im too aggravated beyond words I can express here & if the focus switches from a missing child case to CC's version of "family feud" we will never find the answer.   To all the families involved I say this:   FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PUT THE DIRTY LAUNDRY DOWN, TAKE OWNERSHIP OF YOUR POOR ACTIONS, GET HONEST, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY, GROW UP & FOCUS ON FINDING OUT WHAT HAPPENED TO HAILEY!! 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 10, 2011, 05:30:15 PM
::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

Honestly I am so past the point of even knowing where to begin anymore

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/hailey-dunns-life-impacted-by-drugs.html
 ::snipping2::

We heard that David's father is in prison for drugs, leaving Hailey's brother bereft of a father's influence. This would mean that David would be raised without a father because of drugs. His life would then in turn impact Hailey's.

 ::snipping2::

I'm not so sure he's in jail

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5056/5434173419_4705186b7f_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 10, 2011, 06:00:21 PM
Both Clint and Billie for their own respective reasons are focusing everywhere but on  Shawn Adkins ... the main suspect in the disappearance of their daughter.

It is up to investigators to advocate for Hailey by connecting the dots regarding Shawn's actions and whereabouts on the morning of December 27th as well as ... attempts to manipulate the established chain of events.

Janet

+++++


Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 2:17 pm CST January 12, 2011


<snipped>

Adkins twice refused to take polygraph examinations. Then he agreed to a polygraph, but after providing some inconsistent information, he ended this polygraph by walking out. Officials said he failed the polygraph, particularly concerning the whereabouts of Hailey.

<snipped>

One inconsistency in Adkins’ statements involved his employment on Dec. 27. Adkins told investigators that he was fired that day, but authorities contacted the employer, who said that Adkins was a good employee and that he hadn’t been fired.

Nevertheless, Adkins left his place of employment at 6:10 a.m. on the morning of Dec. 27 and told investigators that he went straight to his mother’s house in Big Spring. However, cell phone records indicate that Adkins’ cell phone was in contact with cell towers in the Colorado City area from 6:35 a.m. until 6:56 a.m., during the time when he said he was traveling to Big Spring.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


Shawn Adkins Interview on KTAB, February 7, 2011: Transcription

<snipped>

REPORTER: So also, according to the affidavits, you had originally said that when you quit your job, you went straight to Big Springs, but then there were cell phone actual pings in Colorado City.

SHAWN ADKINS: Well, that, the investigators asked me. They never asked which specific places I went. They go, “Where did you go Monday, when Hailey supposedly disappeared?”, and I told them I went to Big Spring, and that’s where I was at.

<snipped>

REPORTER: ... he affidavits show that stories have changed. I mean, what do you say about that? Has your story changed at all?

SHAWN ADKINS: If it has, it was because I remembered something, and then I let the investigators know, but that’s how they say my story has changed, then that’s how it changed, ’cause there’s been some things that I didn’t remember to tell them at the time, but later I did remember, and then I told them. That’s how my story could have changed, but no, my story hasn’t changed, other than that.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-shawn-adkins-interview-feb-7-transcription/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 10, 2011, 06:13:04 PM
As of January 19, 2011 ... Shawn Adkins had yet to reveal to his attorney that he had stopped at Grandma's home on his way to Big Spring.

At that period in time ... Sydney Lyle was making of futile attempt to explain why pings from Shawn's cell phone would bounce off the tower in Colorado City.

When was the stop at Grandma's home inserted into the chain of events ... grandma who was was not home at 6:30 AM on the morning of December 27th.

Janet

+++++


Adkins' Lawyer: Phone Records Could Be Incorrect
POSTED: 2:43 pm CST January 19, 2011
UPDATED: 3:09 pm CST January 19, 2011


COLORADO CITY, Texas -- The lawyer representing the only named suspect in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn, Shawn Adkins, says that phone records placing Adkins in the vicinity of the Dunn residence early on Dec. 27, when he told authorities he was somewhere else, could be incorrect.

Fort Worth-based attorney Sidney Lyle told KTXS News on Wednesday that, in his own experience, phone records can show use in one area when the phone user was in a different location.

"Personally," Lyle said, "I've been in El Paso and had my phone records show I was in Mexico when I wasn't anywhere close to there."

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26543967/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 10, 2011, 06:20:13 PM
::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

Honestly I am so past the point of even knowing where to begin anymore

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/hailey-dunns-life-impacted-by-drugs.html
 ::snipping2::

We heard that David's father is in prison for drugs, leaving Hailey's brother bereft of a father's influence. This would mean that David would be raised without a father because of drugs. His life would then in turn impact Hailey's.

 ::snipping2::

I'm not so sure he's in jail

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5056/5434173419_4705186b7f_o.jpg)

LOL~I thought my reading glasses would help but I can't read anything on that, and I have seen a couple of those posted - what site is that?



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 10, 2011, 06:24:11 PM
As of January 19, 2011 ... Shawn Adkins had yet to reveal to his attorney that he had stopped at Grandma's home on his way to Big Spring.

At that period in time ... Sydney Lyle was making of futile attempt to explain why pings from Shawn's cell phone would bounce off the tower in Colorado City.

When was the stop at Grandma's home inserted into the chain of events ... grandma who was was not home at 6:30 AM on the morning of December 27th.

Janet

+++++


Adkins' Lawyer: Phone Records Could Be Incorrect
POSTED: 2:43 pm CST January 19, 2011
UPDATED: 3:09 pm CST January 19, 2011


COLORADO CITY, Texas -- The lawyer representing the only named suspect in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn, Shawn Adkins, says that phone records placing Adkins in the vicinity of the Dunn residence early on Dec. 27, when he told authorities he was somewhere else, could be incorrect.

Fort Worth-based attorney Sidney Lyle told KTXS News on Wednesday that, in his own experience, phone records can show use in one area when the phone user was in a different location.

"Personally," Lyle said, "I've been in El Paso and had my phone records show I was in Mexico when I wasn't anywhere close to there."

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26543967/detail.html


I think you are spot on wrt the "stop" at Grandma's......when they found out about the pings the story changed and locals say no one would use I -20 to go from his work to Big Spring, and I had to LMAO about the El Paso stmt, hello it is JUST a stone's throw from El Paso, my son is there at Ft. Bliss and I have scared the he77 out of him about even considering going into Mexico, sometimes I think Kirkuk, Iraq is safer than that part of Mexico ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 10, 2011, 06:25:46 PM
::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

Honestly I am so past the point of even knowing where to begin anymore

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/hailey-dunns-life-impacted-by-drugs.html
 ::snipping2::

We heard that David's father is in prison for drugs, leaving Hailey's brother bereft of a father's influence. This would mean that David would be raised without a father because of drugs. His life would then in turn impact Hailey's.

 ::snipping2::

I'm not so sure he's in jail

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5056/5434173419_4705186b7f_o.jpg)

LOL~I thought my reading glasses would help but I can't read anything on that, and I have seen a couple of those posted - what site is that?



IM
- the small print cannot be read but the site is Ancestry.com.  I'm just saying that according to Ancestry.com David A. Gloria is David's dad not Clint Dunn or anyone else.  That is according to birth records.  Now, that would be what is on the birth certificate and there's the possibility that Billie lied about who the father was for the certificate (but I doubt that).


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 10, 2011, 06:31:36 PM
The Distancing of Shawn Adkins

Billie Dunn

Billie Jean Dunn Press Conference, January 31, 2011, Transcribed


<snipped>

I do not understand why they seem to have disregarded all of the witnesses who have come forward to say they saw Hailey on Monday, December 27th.

Two of my neighbors came forward to say they saw Hailey in my back yard around noon.

Another neighbor said he saw Hailey and a small dark boy, probably Naomi’s son, two times between 10:30 and noon.

A woman who knows Hailey, and the friend she was supposed to spend the night with, saw them both walking together in front of Alco around 8:30pm. This woman was returning a movie to the Redbox, and passed by them. She still had a receipt, and brought it by and showed it to me the other day, with the date of the 27th, and the time of 8:36.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/01/31/hailey-dunn-billie-jean-dunn-press-conference-january-31-transcription-1/


Colorado City Manager

VIDEO: Billie Dunn Tries To Dispell Rumors Surrounding Her Daughter's Disappearance
POSTED: 6:26 pm CST January 31, 2011
UPDATED: 10:40 pm CST January 31, 2011


<snipped>

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer says the witness statements mentioned by Billie could not be validated.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26683573/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 10, 2011, 06:31:51 PM
The Distancing of Shawn

Clint Dunn

Adkins "Needs to Help Find Hailey" Father Says
Tuesday, February 08 2011


<snipped>

As the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance ends his silence, Hailey's father has something to say about Shawn Adkins.

"Instead of spending money on a lawyer he needs to spend money on trying to find Hailey," said Clint Dunn.

Adkins, Hailey's mother's once live-in boyfriend told KTAB in an exclusive interview that he maintains his innocence, and Clint says although he believes Adkins is sincere.

"He needs to help find Hailey," said Clint, "so he can get the heat off of him."

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339996


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 10, 2011, 06:42:35 PM

I think you are spot on wrt the "stop" at Grandma's......when they found out about the pings the story changed and locals say no one would use I -20 to go from his work to Big Spring, and I had to LMAO about the El Paso stmt, hello it is JUST a stone's throw from El Paso, my son is there at Ft. Bliss and I have scared the he77 out of him about even considering going into Mexico, sometimes I think Kirkuk, Iraq is safer than that part of Mexico ::MonkeyTongue::

Billie Dunn conceded on January 12th NG that Shawn would not have gone through Colorado City if he had driven directly to Big Spring.

Also ... it would not think that Shawn spend 25 minutes knocking on Grandma's door ... the time period of the pinging off the Colorado City cell tower.

Janet

+++++

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 12, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


<snipped>

GRACE: So, Alexis Weed, he says -- let me get the story straight. And then line it up with the pings.

WEED: OK. So he says he leaves to go to his mother`s house and that`s in Big Spring, Texas. This is at 6:10. But his cell phone pings show that at 6:35 a.m., he is pinging in Colorado City.

GRACE: All the way up until nearly 7:00 a.m.

WEED: Correct.

GRACE: So he goes back to the area in which Hailey lives.

WEED: It looks that way.

GRACE: Question, if he were back at the home, is that the cell tower his phone would ping off?

WEED: Yes, police say in the affidavit that that`s the exact same tower.

GRACE: OK. Did you know that, Billie Dunn? He didn`t go straight to his mother`s. He went back to where the home is.

DUNN: I found that out last night watching the news. He told me the same thing that he went straight to his mom`s house in Big Spring.

GRACE: Now in his defense, to get from work to his mother`s, would he drive through Colorado City?
 
DUNN: No, I don`t think so. He could but it would be shorter to not come through Colorado City.

<snipped>
 
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/12/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 10, 2011, 06:45:06 PM
::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

Honestly I am so past the point of even knowing where to begin anymore

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/hailey-dunns-life-impacted-by-drugs.html
 ::snipping2::

We heard that David's father is in prison for drugs, leaving Hailey's brother bereft of a father's influence. This would mean that David would be raised without a father because of drugs. His life would then in turn impact Hailey's.

 ::snipping2::

I'm not so sure he's in jail

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5056/5434173419_4705186b7f_o.jpg)

LOL~I thought my reading glasses would help but I can't read anything on that, and I have seen a couple of those posted - what site is that?



IM
- the small print cannot be read but the site is Ancestry.com.  I'm just saying that according to Ancestry.com David A. Gloria is David's dad not Clint Dunn or anyone else.  That is according to birth records.  Now, that would be what is on the birth certificate and there's the possibility that Billie lied about who the father was for the certificate (but I doubt that).
Thanks for the site, I knew Clint wasn't the dad a few weeks ago and only learned who was DD's dad recently but haven't done any searches on him yet.......LOL and so true about David Gloria, there is no telling who that daddy really is, but I thought he favored Clint a bit in the pictures, of course ppl think I look just like my oldest and of course they are my children via divorce, married their dad and inherited them, divorced him and kept the kids. ::piggy::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Kat_Gram on February 10, 2011, 06:50:57 PM
In the FB post, Katherine says that it wasn't Trish who made the report to CPS. I would take her word for it.
I really think that these peeps should have private phone calls instead of posting this stuff on FB. Or, if that isn't possible, send a letter.
Clint struck out at Billie verbally. Then these hounds became unleashed.
Connect the dots.
...........
Clint has to be quiet, anything he says in public isn't going to matter, it is up to LE.
If he says any more about Billie / Shawn, there would be retaliation ( IMO ) like with Mr. Glasco's name being thrown into the mix along with the public finding the video. And someone calling CPS. Clint, like I said has alot more to lose here. As if Hailey isn't bad enough, now there are persons who want him to be the focus.   
........
Clint should be the voice for Hailey. He has the capabilities to be.
I really believe that. Billie and Shawn have told too many lies and things have come out how both children were treated, ignored, neglected while in HER house.
This other stuff is best left unsaid by Clint, Naiomi, Trish and Katherine on anything that is public.
.......
Where has Billie 'n Shawn been ?
Studying , cramming for their next interviews or Lie Detector Tests ?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cheroke7 on February 10, 2011, 07:08:33 PM
When Billie and Clint were married in 1998, her last name was Stewart
STEWART    BILLIE  J    21        DUNN  CLINTON    W  21    8/15/1998
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txscurry/vitals/BrideS.htm (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txscurry/vitals/BrideS.htm)
Have I missed something somewhere ?
Sherry ::MonkeyTongue::

::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

Honestly I am so past the point of even knowing where to begin anymore

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/hailey-dunns-life-impacted-by-drugs.html
 ::snipping2::

We heard that David's father is in prison for drugs, leaving Hailey's brother bereft of a father's influence. This would mean that David would be raised without a father because of drugs. His life would then in turn impact Hailey's.

 ::snipping2::

I'm not so sure he's in jail

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5056/5434173419_4705186b7f_o.jpg)

LOL~I thought my reading glasses would help but I can't read anything on that, and I have seen a couple of those posted - what site is that?



IM
- the small print cannot be read but the site is Ancestry.com.  I'm just saying that according to Ancestry.com David A. Gloria is David's dad not Clint Dunn or anyone else.  That is according to birth records.  Now, that would be what is on the birth certificate and there's the possibility that Billie lied about who the father was for the certificate (but I doubt that).


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: islandmonkey on February 10, 2011, 07:08:42 PM
In the FB post, Katherine says that it wasn't Trish who made the report to CPS. I would take her word for it.
I really think that these peeps should have private phone calls instead of posting this stuff on FB. Or, if that isn't possible, send a letter.
Clint struck out at Billie verbally. Then these hounds became unleashed.
Connect the dots.
...........
Clint has to be quiet, anything he says in public isn't going to matter, it is up to LE.
If he says any more about Billie / Shawn, there would be retaliation ( IMO ) like with Mr. Glasco's name being thrown into the mix along with the public finding the video. And someone calling CPS. Clint, like I said has alot more to lose here. As if Hailey isn't bad enough, now there are persons who want him to be the focus.   
........
Clint should be the voice for Hailey. He has the capabilities to be.
I really believe that. Billie and Shawn have told too many lies and things have come out how both children were treated, ignored, neglected while in HER house.
This other stuff is best left unsaid by Clint, Naiomi, Trish and Katherine on anything that is public.
.......
Where has Billie 'n Shawn been ?
Studying , cramming for their next interviews or Lie Detector Tests ?

ITA with everything except I still think it is possible that Trish did.....I saw several messages from ppl stating that she sent it to many others and knew once she did that someone would post it (again, could be rumor but it could be true if he had asked her to leave the house a few days ago because she was causing more drama). I still can't get over the fact she was married to Brian.

I was thinking the same thing as you about Clint spilling the beans so to speak, spot on that he has everything to lose and nothing to gain, as long as he is telling LE the truth then I am good with that. I was totally shocked to see the postings on the FB page by Trish's mom, grandmother and how trashy they were, everyone has some trash just don't air it on a public site, finally Trish's sister/aunt told her mom to stop it and let them deal with it privately which is how it should have been done in the first place but sadly it wasn't. I also think the comment from Clint about airing his dirty laundry was prophetic, they sure did and it was pretty fast too, although we knew he smoked pot the YT made it worse for many ppl just seeing it. Honestly if it was my FB page I would have deleted all the post and blocked them from posting but that's just me.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: flutter1 on February 10, 2011, 07:08:53 PM
Offender Information Detail
 
 
SID Number:    05955382
TDCJ Number:    01683464
Name:    GLORIA,DAVID
Race:    H
Sex:    M
Age:    31
Maximum Sentence Date:    2013-09-27       
Current Facility:    GARZA EAST
Projected Release Date:    2012-02-15
Parole Eligibility Date:    2011-02-01
 
SPECIAL INFORMATION FOR SCHEDULED RELEASE:
Scheduled Release Date:    Offender is not scheduled for release at this time.
Scheduled Release Type:    Will be determined when release date is scheduled.
Scheduled Release Location:    Will be determined when release date is scheduled.
 
Offense History:
Offense Date    Offense    Sentence Date    County    Case No.    Sentence (Y-MM-DD)
2000-11-02    ASLT ON PUBLIC SERVANT    2001-04-23    GONZALES    8-01    5-00-00
2009-02-10    POSS MARIJ 4OZ-5LBS    2010-09-30    GUADALUPE    09-1961-CR    3-00-00

Projected Release Date:

Projected Release Date is the date, which is determined by the TDCJ Institutional Division Records Office, that an offender is projected to be released from incarceration if not released on parole sooner. The calculation of the projected release date is affected by offense title and offense date.

* If an offender committed their offense prior to 9/1/1996 and their offense is mandatory supervision eligible, the projected release date is calculated as their scheduled release date to mandatory supervision (if not paroled prior to that), when their time credits (flat time served plus good time earned) equal their total sentence.
* If an offender committed their offense on or after 9/1/1996 and their offense is mandatory supervision eligible, the projected release date is calculated as their scheduled release date to mandatory supervision (if not paroled prior to that), when their time credits (flat time served plus good time earned) equal their total sentence AND the Parole Board has approved their release to mandatory supervision (per the Discretionary Mandatory Supervision law); however, if the Parole Board denies the release on mandatory supervision, the projected release date is recalculated to reflect the same date as the maximum expiration date, which is otherwise known as their discharge date. Subsequent reviews by the Parole Board that result in approval for mandatory supervision release result in the projected release date being recalculated to an earlier date to allow for mandatory supervision release processing to occur.
* If an offender is incarcerated for an offense that by law is non-mandatory supervision eligible, their projected release date matches their maximum expiration date, when their time credits (flat time only) equals their total sentence and they therefore discharge their sentence when released (if not paroled prior to that).


Parole Eligibility:

An offender's parole eligibility is determined by the laws in effect on the date the offense was committed, the offense of conviction, and the sentence. The Board of Pardons and Paroles has complete discretion in parole decisions.

** State Jail offenders are not eligible for parole.

http://168.51.178.33/webapp/TDCJ/InmateDetails.jsp?sidnumber=05955382 (http://168.51.178.33/webapp/TDCJ/InmateDetails.jsp?sidnumber=05955382)

Is this him?  This info came from http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/offender_information.htm (http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/offender_information.htm)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 10, 2011, 07:12:15 PM
I am really getting confused here on the name thing. Where does Stewart come from for BJD? Also I can find no birth record for BJ with her mothers name (Connie Ostrander). Nor for her sister Shanna. The only marriage license I can find for BJ is with Clint. Maybe she was just using this last name (Stewart) or that is the name she was born with and they did the same thing that BJ did to Clint to allow David to carry his last name?

Naomi Stewart

Hailey Dunn's brother no longer staying at home in Colorado City
By Celinda Emison
Updated Wednesday, January 19, 2011


<snipped>

Clint Dunn and his girlfriend, Naomi Stewart, told the Reporter-News that Hailey had spent Christmas night at Clint Dunn's home.

"She took off those earrings and dropped them by the couch and asked me to put them up for her," Stewart said. "She asked me to pick them up for her, and I only found one of them."

Stewart and Clint Dunn said Hailey walked to the Dollar Store and Alco department store Sunday, not Monday, as Burroughs told police.

"She never came over at all Monday," Stewart said.

"Police have told us surveillance tapes at both stores put Hailey there on Sunday," Clint Dunn said.

<snipped>

http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/19/official-rumor-untrue-missing-colorado-city-teen-h/


STEWART??


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 10, 2011, 07:17:20 PM

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5056/5434173419_4705186b7f_o.jpg)

It appears that "Stewart" did not come into the equation when David was born.

Sometime between David's birth and Billie's marriage to Clint ... "Stewart" became an issue.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: texasmom on February 10, 2011, 07:53:29 PM
Offender Information Detail
 
 
SID Number:    05955382
TDCJ Number:    01683464
Name:    GLORIA,DAVID
Race:    H
Sex:    M
Age:    31
Maximum Sentence Date:    2013-09-27       
Current Facility:    GARZA EAST
Projected Release Date:    2012-02-15
Parole Eligibility Date:    2011-02-01
 
SPECIAL INFORMATION FOR SCHEDULED RELEASE:
Scheduled Release Date:    Offender is not scheduled for release at this time.
Scheduled Release Type:    Will be determined when release date is scheduled.
Scheduled Release Location:    Will be determined when release date is scheduled.
 
Offense History:
Offense Date    Offense    Sentence Date    County    Case No.    Sentence (Y-MM-DD)
2000-11-02    ASLT ON PUBLIC SERVANT    2001-04-23    GONZALES    8-01    5-00-00
2009-02-10    POSS MARIJ 4OZ-5LBS    2010-09-30    GUADALUPE    09-1961-CR    3-00-00

Projected Release Date:

Projected Release Date is the date, which is determined by the TDCJ Institutional Division Records Office, that an offender is projected to be released from incarceration if not released on parole sooner. The calculation of the projected release date is affected by offense title and offense date.

* If an offender committed their offense prior to 9/1/1996 and their offense is mandatory supervision eligible, the projected release date is calculated as their scheduled release date to mandatory supervision (if not paroled prior to that), when their time credits (flat time served plus good time earned) equal their total sentence.
* If an offender committed their offense on or after 9/1/1996 and their offense is mandatory supervision eligible, the projected release date is calculated as their scheduled release date to mandatory supervision (if not paroled prior to that), when their time credits (flat time served plus good time earned) equal their total sentence AND the Parole Board has approved their release to mandatory supervision (per the Discretionary Mandatory Supervision law); however, if the Parole Board denies the release on mandatory supervision, the projected release date is recalculated to reflect the same date as the maximum expiration date, which is otherwise known as their discharge date. Subsequent reviews by the Parole Board that result in approval for mandatory supervision release result in the projected release date being recalculated to an earlier date to allow for mandatory supervision release processing to occur.
* If an offender is incarcerated for an offense that by law is non-mandatory supervision eligible, their projected release date matches their maximum expiration date, when their time credits (flat time only) equals their total sentence and they therefore discharge their sentence when released (if not paroled prior to that).


Parole Eligibility:

An offender's parole eligibility is determined by the laws in effect on the date the offense was committed, the offense of conviction, and the sentence. The Board of Pardons and Paroles has complete discretion in parole decisions.

** State Jail offenders are not eligible for parole.

http://168.51.178.33/webapp/TDCJ/InmateDetails.jsp?sidnumber=05955382 (http://168.51.178.33/webapp/TDCJ/InmateDetails.jsp?sidnumber=05955382)

Is this him?  This info came from http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/offender_information.htm (http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/offender_information.htm)

http://www.co.guadalupe.tx.us/judicialsearch/Scripts/UVlink.isa/guad_cj/WEBSERV/CriminalSearch?action%253Dview%26track%253D88620

Criminal Case Search Detail
    In the 25TH District Court
COUNTY
Cause No. 09-1961-CR

STATE OF TEXAS VS. DAVID GLORIA

Defendant   
Gloria, David
White Male 5' 10" 280

Defense Attorneys   
Morris, Thomas H (Bar # 14513750)

Case Information   
Filed on 10/06/2009
02/10/09-POSS MARIJ >4OZ<=5LBS
3rd Degree Felony
Current Status: Disposed/Confinement

$4,000.00 Bond Set on 02/10/2009 by Mr. G Bail Bonds

Disposition Information   
09/30/2010 - Guilty Plea
Presiding Judge: W.C. KIRKENDALL
Confinement: Texas Dept. Of Criminal Justice, Institutional Division - 3 Years
Court Costs: $330.00
Attorney Fees: $502.60
Current Balance: $832.60

Hearings   
11/18/2009   
Wednesday   
9:00am   
Arraignment Hearing
12/16/2009   Wednesday   9:00am   NON-JURY
02/09/2010   Tuesday   9:00am   NON-JURY
03/24/2010   Wednesday   9:00am   NON-JURY
04/16/2010   Friday   9:00am   NON-JURY
05/19/2010   Wednesday   9:00am   NON-JURY
07/08/2010   Thursday   9:00am   NON-JURY
08/10/2010   Tuesday   9:00am   PRE-TRIAL
09/30/2010   Thursday   9:00am   SENTENCING

Events and Orders of the Court   
10/21/2010   
PRECEPT TO SERVE
10/12/2010   MEMO
10/07/2010   CRIMINAL JUSTICE INFORMATION SYSTEM
10/05/2010   NUNC PRO TUNC
10/05/2010   INMATE TRUST ORDER
09/30/2010   $DISP
09/30/2010   ATTY FEE TO AUDITOR FOR PAYMENT
09/30/2010   JUDGMENT
09/30/2010   FEE SCHEDULE
09/30/2010   JAIL TRANSMITTAL
08/11/2010   RESET NOTICE
08/11/2010   MEMO
08/10/2010   NOTICE
08/10/2010   PLEA AGREEMENT
08/10/2010   WAIVERS,STIPULATIONS,ADMONISHMENTS
07/08/2010   RESET NOTICE
05/19/2010   RESET NOTICE
04/16/2010   RESET NOTICE
03/24/2010   RESET NOTICE
02/09/2010   RESET NOTICE
12/16/2009   RESET NOTICE
12/11/2009   ORDER
11/18/2009   APPOINTMENT OF ATTORNEY
11/18/2009   RESET NOTICE
10/13/2009   CORRESPONDENCE
10/06/2009   $FILE
10/06/2009   DOCKET SHEET
10/06/2009   INDICTMENT
10/06/2009   WARRANT INFORMATION
02/19/2009   BOND
02/19/2009   BOND


Mugshot

http://www.co.guadalupe.tx.us/judicialsearch/Common/mugshot.asp?URL=http://www.co.guadalupe.tx.us/JudicialSearch/Scripts/TSGProxy.dll/guad_cj/WEBSERV/1765342/PERSONS/327397&Title=David%20Gloria

(http://www.co.guadalupe.tx.us/JudicialSearch/Scripts/TSGProxy.dll/guad_cj/WEBSERV/1765342/PERSONS/327397)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 10, 2011, 08:04:15 PM
We have to be careful that David Gloria is a fairly common name, even in Texas. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: texasmom on February 10, 2011, 08:09:42 PM
http://www.co.guadalupe.tx.us/judicialsearch/Scripts/UVlink.isa/guad_cj/WEBSERV/JailSearch

6/3/1979 is the birthdate of the offender I posted about.

So he's 31 years old.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Northern Rose on February 10, 2011, 08:10:02 PM
The David Gloria that is in Guadalupe Jail would have been 15 when DD was born (Billie was 17).

Name  Date of Birth  Age  Custody Status  Facility/Reason  Reporting Agency 
GLORIA, DAVID  06/03/1979  31    Transferred  Texas Department Criminal Justice  GUADALUPE COUNTY JAIL 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Northern Rose on February 10, 2011, 08:11:49 PM
Sorry , here is the link

https://www.vinelink.com/vinelink/searchResultsAction.do?searchType=offender&siteId=44900&searchWhere=state&agency=301&id=&lastName=gloria&firstName=david&dob=&ageRange=0&methodToCall=search


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 10, 2011, 08:11:55 PM
Like I said, David Gloria is a fairly common name.  It is David Allen Gloria that is listed as the father.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 10, 2011, 08:13:01 PM
Like I said, David Gloria is a fairly common name.  It is David Allen Gloria that is listed as the father.

From Ancestry.com

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5294/5435043248_fffaa74fe7_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 10, 2011, 08:35:06 PM
According to those records, Clint is not the bio dad but I would bet that Clint was the main father figure in David's life. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Kat_Gram on February 10, 2011, 08:40:17 PM
http://www.myspace.com/shannadea/photos/21190796#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A21190796%7D

This is from Shanna's my space.
Shanna is married to Roger Ostrander. She is an LVN. Her Myspace is about Mom stuff, work and how much she likes to help people. Comes from a big family. No dirt posted there, seems like a nice and caring individual.
The pix is of her and Hailey maybe within the past year. Hailey looks so happy.
Why the pix is called Fred come home, I don't know, private joke perhaps. 
Hailey did mention babysitting her cousins so that the parents could go Christmas shopping and the little girl on Hailey's FB is one of Shanna's. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 10, 2011, 09:29:54 PM
http://www.myspace.com/shannadea/photos/21190796#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A21190796%7D

This is from Shanna's my space.
Shanna is married to Roger Ostrander. She is an LVN. Her Myspace is about Mom stuff, work and how much she likes to help people. Comes from a big family. No dirt posted there, seems like a nice and caring individual.
The pix is of her and Hailey maybe within the past year. Hailey looks so happy.
Why the pix is called Fred come home, I don't know, private joke perhaps. 
Hailey did mention babysitting her cousins so that the parents could go Christmas shopping and the little girl on Hailey's FB is one of Shanna's. 


I am thankful that David is staying with Roger and Shanna.  According to Clint ... David is a Mommy's boy so I would assume at some time in the near future he will be returning to live with Billie.  I hope by then there will be some lessons learned and Billie has her priorities straight.

Janet

++++++++

ROGER OSTRANDER


YEP - that would be Roger Ostrander and it would be Del and Billie's brother.  I bet the one David is staying with.  Big dude.  Thanks for the link:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5431345449_57e71623ce_b.jpg)




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 10, 2011, 09:34:27 PM
Has an answer been revealed how Billie became a "Stewart" between the birth of David and her marriage to Clint?

Is there any connection to Naomi ... Clint's girlfriend?

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 10, 2011, 09:41:12 PM
http://www.myspace.com/shannadea/photos/21190796#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A21190796%7D

This is from Shanna's my space.
Shanna is married to Roger Ostrander. She is an LVN. Her Myspace is about Mom stuff, work and how much she likes to help people. Comes from a big family. No dirt posted there, seems like a nice and caring individual.
The pix is of her and Hailey maybe within the past year. Hailey looks so happy.
Why the pix is called Fred come home, I don't know, private joke perhaps. 
Hailey did mention babysitting her cousins so that the parents could go Christmas shopping and the little girl on Hailey's FB is one of Shanna's. 


I am thankful that David is staying with Roger and Shanna.  According to Clint ... David is a Mommy's boy so I would assume at some time in the near future he will be returning to live with Billie.  I hope by then there will be some lessons learned and Billie has her priorities straight.

Janet

++++++++

ROGER OSTRANDER


YEP - that would be Roger Ostrander and it would be Del and Billie's brother.  I bet the one David is staying with.  Big dude.  Thanks for the link:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5431345449_57e71623ce_b.jpg)



I wouldnt be too sure of that assumption


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Samarie on February 10, 2011, 09:41:30 PM
I am really getting confused here on the name thing. Where does Stewart come from for BJD? Also I can find no birth record for BJ with her mothers name (Connie Ostrander). Nor for her sister Shanna. The only marriage license I can find for BJ is with Clint. Maybe she was just using this last name (Stewart) or that is the name she was born with and they did the same thing that BJ did to Clint to allow David to carry his last name?

It is my believe, opinion, idea or Perhaps the mom is Connie Lou Stewart?   

A few days ago someone (sorry, can't remember which monkey) searched a site and found Billie's last name listed as "Stewart," maybe she was born before her mother married Ostlander? Of course my first instinct when I saw the Stewart name attached to Billie, was maybe she is some how related to Clint's current squeeze Naomi? Perhaps a cousin? Billie and Naomi could pass for blood relatives, as they do resemble one another. If this is the case I'm sure it causes some underlying animosity between Billie and Clint and Billie and Naomi....just a thought...Let's see, my mother's sister's daughter is now my daughter's mother and....oh, nevermind!

I'd love to find out since I read she herself has a record, and specualtion is that she might be the source of the drugs, just speculation ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::HelloKitty:: Janet

I touched upon this very subject last weekend. I thought that Billie was born to Connie Stewart prior to her marriage to Ostlander, I went back and found the quote box for you.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 10, 2011, 09:45:32 PM
Samarie

Thank you.

I have missed ya.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 10, 2011, 09:47:15 PM
Has an answer been revealed how Billie became a "Stewart" between the birth of David and her marriage to Clint?

Is there any connection to Naomi ... Clint's girlfriend?

Janet

Not that I'm aware of Janet and I've been looking  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 10, 2011, 09:51:44 PM
Has an answer been revealed how Billie became a "Stewart" between the birth of David and her marriage to Clint?

Is there any connection to Naomi ... Clint's girlfriend?

Janet

Not that I'm aware of Janet and I've been looking  ::MonkeyCool::

Maybe she took her mother's maiden name instead of an adoptive one since her mother married Ostlander after Billie's birth?  Do we have any way to find out if Ostlander legally adopted Billie?   Also, has anyone seen if Billie has used aliases, if so Id be curious why. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 10, 2011, 09:52:41 PM
http://www.myspace.com/shannadea/photos/21190796#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A21190796%7D

This is from Shanna's my space.
Shanna is married to Roger Ostrander. She is an LVN. Her Myspace is about Mom stuff, work and how much she likes to help people. Comes from a big family. No dirt posted there, seems like a nice and caring individual.
The pix is of her and Hailey maybe within the past year. Hailey looks so happy.
Why the pix is called Fred come home, I don't know, private joke perhaps. 
Hailey did mention babysitting her cousins so that the parents could go Christmas shopping and the little girl on Hailey's FB is one of Shanna's. 


I am thankful that David is staying with Roger and Shanna.  According to Clint ... David is a Mommy's boy so I would assume at some time in the near future he will be returning to live with Billie.  I hope by then there will be some lessons learned and Billie has her priorities straight.

Janet

<snipped>


I wouldnt be too sure of that assumption.


Time will tell.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 10, 2011, 09:54:14 PM
Has an answer been revealed how Billie became a "Stewart" between the birth of David and her marriage to Clint?

Is there any connection to Naomi ... Clint's girlfriend?

Janet

Not that I'm aware of Janet and I've been looking  ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks Klaas

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 10, 2011, 09:55:42 PM
http://www.myspace.com/shannadea/photos/21190796#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A21190796%7D

This is from Shanna's my space.
Shanna is married to Roger Ostrander. She is an LVN. Her Myspace is about Mom stuff, work and how much she likes to help people. Comes from a big family. No dirt posted there, seems like a nice and caring individual.
The pix is of her and Hailey maybe within the past year. Hailey looks so happy.
Why the pix is called Fred come home, I don't know, private joke perhaps. 
Hailey did mention babysitting her cousins so that the parents could go Christmas shopping and the little girl on Hailey's FB is one of Shanna's. 


I am thankful that David is staying with Roger and Shanna.  According to Clint ... David is a Mommy's boy so I would assume at some time in the near future he will be returning to live with Billie.  I hope by then there will be some lessons learned and Billie has her priorities straight.

Janet

<snipped>


I wouldnt be too sure of that assumption.


Time will tell.

Janet

Exactly, we dont know if Billie has no part in what happened to Hailey or if she has indeed been an accessory after the fact.  We dont know if David has any desire to go back to his mother (especially since she threw him under the bus recently), we dont know if child services will feel that she is suitable to continue having custody of David whether it be that she insists on still having a relationship with Shawn or her drug use, etc.  It wouldnt be fair either way to project right now but I wouldnt say Billie is in a "shoe in" position that she will get custody back.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 10, 2011, 10:00:15 PM
I just wanted to add a little insight as to CPS.  I worked for Children, Youth & Family Services for 2 years.  I quit, yep walked out of a state paying job.  Why?  Because all I did all day long was type abuse after abuse report on children.  One so horrific it broke my spirit as a person at the time.  CPS could care less about parents smoking pot.  Did I just say that?  Yep, I did.  Now different states may have different guidelines BUT ... unless the child is in imminent danger CPS will not act immediately.  They may (doubtful though) send a caseworker out to "investigate" the living conditions and if the child is in imminent danger at that time.  Sad but true.  Even w/Clints latest drug (pot) charge/conviction whatever, I do not feel that it rises to the level to take his children away from him.  They are there to investigate the whether the child was physically harmed or if the living conditions rise to the level of uninhabitable.  It is not their job to investigate whether the parents smoke dope on occasion, unless they are supplying it to the children.  If the children are taken care of, clean, going to school, free of bruises, being seen for well child check ups, etc., they will find a case unfounded every time. 

I can tell you just a month and a half ago, I had a child aged 5, (with brain damage), in my classroom, grabbed by his collar, thrown to the ground, dragged from one room to the another, brush burns from his temple to his chin all because his mother was upset with him.  After she got to the steps w/him she left go of his shirt and said to him "I hope someone comes and gets you, cuz I don't effin want you any more, ... you hear me?  I don't even effin want you anymore."  OF COURSE we called Children n Youth and yep, they came in to "investigate", we even had it on video ... as the man walked out the door, he said, "He's fine to go home with his mom."  That's just one case.  I typed up sooooooo many "questionable" reports of neglect and abuse every single day!  It is an over burdened, under staffed, under funded agency!  Believe it or not ... I actually had several cases where an infant, had an STD .. yep SICK!, but the cases were unfounded b/c the mom could not name a perp!  Did they charge the mom for letting these scumbags around the baby?  Nope, just unfounded cuz there was no perp to identify.

IMO A claim of a parent smoking pot will become a custody issue between the parent that chooses to turn it in.  In this case, it looks like tit for tat.  You can't tell on me, cuz I'll tell on you. 

On a personal note, I can tell you that several years ago, my son was selling pot out of his home with his new girlfriend <insert eye roll here>   I was livid when I found out!  CPS was called, I know cuz I called, I was told that the child (my grandchild) was not in imminent danger of abuse (are you serious? but I knew cuz I worked there) that is was an issue w/LE.  So I called LE, had him eventually arrested and hired my ex daughter in law a good attorney and all we were able to get was no overnight visitations until he completed classes, and pee tested clean for dope.

Trust me, I was very naive when I began working for CPS, thinking every child abuse was reported and we heard about on the news.  HA!  With only 60 some counties in our state, that agency is over 3 and a half months behind on entering reports, dictating 10 hours of mandnatory overtime per employee!  It was 4 years ago that I worked there and they are still that far behind.  IMO ... CPS has bigger fish to fry than checking out pot smoking parents.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 10, 2011, 10:08:26 PM
Apparently ... Billie has been deemed NOT a person of interest in the investigation into the disappearance of her daughter.  However ... when I think of the manipulated chain of evidents that Billie handed out at her press conference ... I believe that following Shawns arrest in connection to a missing Hailey ... Billie should be held accountable for obstructing the investigation in her attempt to distance Shawn from implication.

I cannot comprehend Billie's ultimate betrayal of Hailey.

Janet

++++++

VIDEO: Billie Dunn Tries To Dispell Rumors Surrounding Her Daughter's Disappearance
POSTED: 6:26 pm CST January 31, 2011
UPDATED: 10:40 pm CST January 31, 2011


Billie expressed frustration with Police that they have not named other suspects, to which Kampfer responded, "Right now, we have lots of suspicion, things that are put together that lead to a person of interest, Shawn Adkins."

He said at this time Law Enforcement may not want to name anyone else, because they don't want to tip off other persons of interest on their investigation.

He added that Billie Dunn is not a person of interest in her daughter's case.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=post;topic=9340.920;num_replies=935


Billie Dunn - Manipulated Chain of Events

http://www.newswest9.com/Global/link.asp?L=474268



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Kat_Gram on February 10, 2011, 10:10:59 PM
Connie Louise (  Stewart ) Ostrander spouse was Delbert Ostrander
Billie J born 05/04/ 1977.
..........
She is the oldest of the three children.  Maybe she was born under the name of Stewart.
...........
I got the above from a random post on the Statement Analysis blog.
I don't understand as if you are adopted by a Step Dad, that is your legal name. And you use it.
Maybe Billie went by the name Ostrander but when it came to getting married, she had to use her legal name on the certificate of marriage.
That's about all I can think of right now.
.............


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 10, 2011, 10:13:25 PM
Connie Louise (  Stewart ) Ostrander spouse was Delbert Ostrander
Billie J born 05/04/ 1977.
..........
She is the oldest of the three children.  Maybe she was born under the name of Stewart.
...........
I got the above from a random post on the Statement Analysis blog.
I don't understand as if you are adopted by a Step Dad, that is your legal name. And you use it.
Maybe Billie went by the name Ostrander but when it came to getting married, she had to use her legal name on the certificate of marriage.
That's about all I can think of right now.
.............


Thanks Kat

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 10, 2011, 10:39:17 PM
So...

I just logged on to see if anything new was happening with Hailey's case...now I'm sickened.

I just looked at Hailey Dunn Open Discussion & it appears as though everybody is rip-roaring mad that Trish took BJ out for a girl's night.

No matter how I look at it, even if the cagna is innocent in her daughter's disappearance, it's nothing less than distasteful to have a "girl's night out" when she can't even look for her missing daughter. Everytime something new pops up in this case, I'm reminded of Casey, Misty, Terri, OMG the list goes on & it's so disheartening.

I barely go to church, seriously need to do something about that...bc lord knows I need to repent. OMG I wanna annihilate her!


http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 10, 2011, 10:42:38 PM
Clint's MIL?  Do I have that right?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 10, 2011, 10:42:57 PM
Muffy or Klaas, could you please delete that link I just put in my last post. I have no idea why it keeps doing that. This is the correct link:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905

Thank you.

When the URL's are long they get "cut off".  If you highlight them before submitting your post then click on the URL icon (http://scaredmonkeys.net/Themes/default/images/bbc/url.gif) it will make sure the entire link works.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 10, 2011, 10:48:00 PM
Clint's MIL?  Do I have that right?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet

from what I understand, yes, Clint's mil.

From what I understand, she kept bringing on the drama, asking for donations, etc. It appears as though she's been inserting herself where she shouldn't be. It's creating alot of drama and repurcussions for the entire family. The lady appears to have next to no sense at all. I seriously think these people have all budded from the same stupid tree.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 10, 2011, 10:55:39 PM
Clint's MIL?  Do I have that right?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet

from what I understand, yes, Clint's mil.

From what I understand, she kept bringing on the drama, asking for donations, etc. It appears as though she's been inserting herself where she shouldn't be. It's creating alot of drama and repurcussions for the entire family. The lady appears to have next to no sense at all. I seriously think these people have all budded from the same stupid tree.

SCratch that...NOT MOTHER IN LAW...IT'S A DIFFERENT TRISH!

Still think she should have thought more on it, though. Sorry for the confusion. I shouldn;t have logged on. Omg.

Where's Hailey?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 10, 2011, 10:59:26 PM
Klaas or Muffy, Nut, Somebody...If you want, feel free to delete posts 863-867 to prevent confusion. I'm so sorry. Been sick all day, woke up, thought of Hailey so logged on, should have read everything through before I jumped. Again, I apologize for any confusion.

The link to Hailey Dunn Open Discussion is here:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 10, 2011, 10:59:45 PM
Clint's MIL?  Do I have that right?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet

from what I understand, yes, Clint's mil.

From what I understand, she kept bringing on the drama, asking for donations, etc. It appears as though she's been inserting herself where she shouldn't be. It's creating alot of drama and repurcussions for the entire family. The lady appears to have next to no sense at all. I seriously think these people have all budded from the same stupid tree.


Not the same Trish ..

Trish Talton Roemer I am sorry to have stirred y'all up. You can call me stupid all you'd like. I am just trying to be there for somebody I see hurting cuz I don't know what I would do if I were in billies shoes. I am just trying to give her some support and I'll leave the rest to God
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http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905#!/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905#!/TNTRDYNAMITE (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905#!/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905#!/TNTRDYNAMITE)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 10, 2011, 11:09:21 PM
Invision, I just posted above that I was completely wrong. I'm thinking the stupid might be contagious.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 10, 2011, 11:09:49 PM
So...

I just logged on to see if anything new was happening with Hailey's case...now I'm sickened.

I just looked at Hailey Dunn Open Discussion & it appears as though everybody is rip-roaring mad that Trish took BJ out for a girl's night.

No matter how I look at it, even if the cagna is innocent in her daughter's disappearance, it's nothing less than distasteful to have a "girl's night out" when she can't even look for her missing daughter. Everytime something new pops up in this case, I'm reminded of Casey, Misty, Terri, OMG the list goes on & it's so disheartening.

I barely go to church, seriously need to do something about that...bc lord knows I need to repent. OMG I wanna annihilate her!

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001338421853#!/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905

I read quite a bit of that page.  They can now minimize after the initial announcement of this "girls night" all they want, I find it to be a slap in Hailey's face by chicks with no brains or decency.  There are searchers breaking their backs looking for Hailey while her mother lies, there are investigators working a case with no cooperation by her mother, there is a father in agony missing his daughter & this B thinks she has the right to finally step out of her hell hole to get herself made up & God knows what else?   Look, I'm all about making the most of what your mamma gave you when you step out publicly BUT and this is a huge BUT, if my child was missing suspected of being murdered...my appearance would be the very last dang thing on my mind or priority list!

You could tell over the course of her interviews, all this is about HER...she is just revolting.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 10, 2011, 11:14:33 PM
local saying it was possibly a drug debt gone bad and that BD and SA were into a dealer for 10,000. Also disgusting, Brian was married to Naomi's mother......it just gets worse doesn't it?? Of course all rumor but it was e mailed to me and the poster worked with Billie ::MonkeyEek::

well, heck this is the entire jist of the email ......


billie and shawn had a 10,000 drug debt that the drug dealers here in snyder were coming to collect, go figure the day hailey turns up missing

O know these things, they did infact have the debt, i worked with Billie and went to church with Hailey.. so i know these things.. and i know shawn too he grew up with my sisters

i believe hailey is still alive.. and this is all for the money.. billie recieved 5 grand per interview she did with nancy grace and she did atleast 5, but i believe that now they cant just bring her out of hiding because thats way to suspicious, i think they are letting us die down on our searching which we WONT do

blah you got to a point i didnt wanna discuss , but yes clints brother was with naomis mother

 
we look worse in our pictures of us searching and on interviews than she ever does.... thats not what is being said in c city, but idk we dont ask for money we are out spending out money and gas for all this... i drive over 100 miles to go ...search due to me now living in lubbock... but we dont ask for money and she has never offered us anything.. clint does come and meet us, prays with us gives us water and buttons that have been made with haileys picture on them.. i have pictures on my page of us out searching if anyone wants to see em

mike, oil fields have to account for all that stuff, but shawns dad works there too and i do know for a fact he is on speed real bad.. so there is no tellin

we have learned about the drug debt through other drug dealers in snyder. so we know the drug debt is true, whether it be the correct 10,000 idk but i do know the drug debt. did yall know that all through this time that BD and SA were meeting up at rattlesnake gap, in her mommas car? she has not once been away from shawn for more than a day! we have caught them ourselves,

 thats fine.. but i worked with Billie and i do know what kind of person she is! i know the drug dealers in snyder, how you ask? because i had a past in college with drugs, yes stupid i know, but i have been clean for 3 years now so i do still have ways to find out stuff

in high school shawn was a sophmore dating a 6th grader he is a creepy individual... they have been to midland partying and staying at a hotel on weekends


i know that for in fact that he would stand in her bedroom door at night, because he did it while at another persons house doing drugs one night to her daughter.. so i know thats true.. billie did and does coke all the time i know the person that she does it with


wish I had saved the link and a woman said she knows the family. She stated that Hailey and Billie got into a fight over Christmas break and BD was choking Haily and Hailey ran to her closet....anyone else hear this?


So, now we're hearing things that could end up maybe ringing some truth to the email sent to you.

We now know that Brian Glasco was with Trish (Naomi's mom).

We hear Hailey's aunt saying that Hailey called her a couple of days before she disappeared and was crying...something about an altercation.

I'd like to hear about Shawn's dad that supposedly works at the same place Shawn did and if he was at work that entire day.

I don't agree that Nancy Grace paid $5,000 per interview - she doesn't do that...and trust me, she's not my favorite show to watch but she does get these stories out there in the public's eye.

I do believe Billie & Shawn were doing drugs bc it's already noted in the affidavit that they purchased illegal narcotics with money taken out at the atm. I'm certain the police have proof of them informing that bit of info.

I don't believe Billie and/or Shawn were in the hole for a $10,000 drug debt. No drug dealer in a small poverty stricken town such as theirs would let that kind of money in cash and/or drugs be fronted...no way no how.

We know Billie & Shawn shared an interest in true crime. Well what does Hailey's case remind you of...HaLeigh Cummings' case. Smoke screening, drug deal gone bad, in the hole for a drug debt, pointing the finger at everyone except who the finger really should be pointed at, low income people, low income town, step family members and half family members being with other family members making what used to be an uncle a grandfather, omg the list goes on.

BUMP

Anybody know anything about Billie's dad? How about Shawn's dad? If Shawn's dad works at the same place Shawn did, could he have seen his son that morning? I know it'd be a long shot considering how big it is there, just sayin'. What does his father do there and what are his working hours? Does he have a record like Clint?

Side note: I saw some pictures of the wells there. Wow. They're not a well that somebody up north would think of. They are very deep, some drilled into rock - HUGE ROCK.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 10, 2011, 11:15:59 PM
Invision, I just posted above that I was completely wrong. I'm thinking the stupid might be contagious.

yea, sorry Titch .... I was cutting and pasting while you posted ... it was all just in the timing ..  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 10, 2011, 11:19:45 PM
Capp, I'm not quoting the box bc the link I provided is wrong, I put in the correct link in a later post.

I agree with you. I could try to give Billie a lil slack thinking she may just be feeling numb so is trying to make herself look better in the media, but the fact she hasn't gotten off her azz to do anything but could jump at the chance for a haircut or spa day is sickening to me. If she;d been searching all this time, I might feel different...but she hasn't. She can keep saying nobody knows how she feels and nobody sees her crying off camera, or she tries to stay strong for David, etc - I say puhleeease, that lying pos ain't foolin' nobody.

I hope she's innocent, honestly hope she is, bc if she's not she'll go down fast.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 10, 2011, 11:25:37 PM
Invision, I just posted above that I was completely wrong. I'm thinking the stupid might be contagious.

yea, sorry Titch .... I was cutting and pasting while you posted ... it was all just in the timing ..  ::MonkeyCool::

lol. i have such a headache tonight. i've been on hailey's threads more than i've spent with my family, when you add up all the time. that's making me feel bad. but to put it in perspective, think about it - all of us come on here to discuss and check on things. we may not all be in texas but we look for whatever we can on the computer. we search forums, discussions, etc. we dig up dirt. this is done on other forums, too. how can sooo many people be doing more than her own mother? how? why? it's a dang shame she can't lift her feet for her daughter but she sure doesn't have a problem lifting her legs for shawn.

going to bed before i vomit.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 10, 2011, 11:28:07 PM
Klaas, thank you.

Goodnight everyone. May tonight be the night Hailey is found.

Peace.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 10, 2011, 11:28:40 PM
Capp, I'm not quoting the box bc the link I provided is wrong, I put in the correct link in a later post.

I agree with you. I could try to give Billie a lil slack thinking she may just be feeling numb so is trying to make herself look better in the media, but the fact she hasn't gotten off her azz to do anything but could jump at the chance for a haircut or spa day is sickening to me. If she;d been searching all this time, I might feel different...but she hasn't. She can keep saying nobody knows how she feels and nobody sees her crying off camera, or she tries to stay strong for David, etc - I say puhleeease, that lying pos ain't foolin' nobody.

I hope she's innocent, honestly hope she is, bc if she's not she'll go down fast.

I hear that...and then this tidbit comment sent me reeling:

Dawn Steward She's the one that was at Billie's house the other day for an hour delivering items, stated she didn't see Shawn, said the police came to the door looking for Shawn and Billie told them he would be at his grandmama's house after while. Less than 2 hours later a neighbor saw SA and BD turn on the Snyder exit and even told what color shirt Shawn was wearing(of course she was called a liar because they didn't see Shawn) and we all know that the black and grey stripped shirt we were told he was wearing was the very same shirt he had on in his interview with KTAB. Are you trying to buddy up to Billie, get info from her so you can come back here and tell it, so you can sell it to a tabloid, or maybe even do a book deal to recoup what you've spent? I was going to say, if Billie was smart, she wouldn't let you on her porch but we all know the answer to that.  http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 10, 2011, 11:30:47 PM
Capp, I'm not quoting the box bc the link I provided is wrong, I put in the correct link in a later post.

I agree with you. I could try to give Billie a lil slack thinking she may just be feeling numb so is trying to make herself look better in the media, but the fact she hasn't gotten off her azz to do anything but could jump at the chance for a haircut or spa day is sickening to me. If she;d been searching all this time, I might feel different...but she hasn't. She can keep saying nobody knows how she feels and nobody sees her crying off camera, or she tries to stay strong for David, etc - I say puhleeease, that lying pos ain't foolin' nobody.

I hope she's innocent, honestly hope she is, bc if she's not she'll go down fast.

I hear that...and then this tidbit comment sent me reeling:

Dawn Steward She's the one that was at Billie's house the other day for an hour delivering items, stated she didn't see Shawn, said the police came to the door looking for Shawn and Billie told them he would be at his grandmama's house after while. Less than 2 hours later a neighbor saw SA and BD turn on the Snyder exit and even told what color shirt Shawn was wearing(of course she was called a liar because they didn't see Shawn) and we all know that the black and grey stripped shirt we were told he was wearing was the very same shirt he had on in his interview with KTAB. Are you trying to buddy up to Billie, get info from her so you can come back here and tell it, so you can sell it to a tabloid, or maybe even do a book deal to recoup what you've spent? I was going to say, if Billie was smart, she wouldn't let you on her porch but we all know the answer to that.  http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905

Oh My God.

 ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 10, 2011, 11:31:50 PM
Klaas, thank you.

Goodnight everyone. May tonight be the night Hailey is found.

Peace.

Sleep well Tiche.  I hope you are feeling better tomorrow.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 10, 2011, 11:33:03 PM
Invision, I just posted above that I was completely wrong. I'm thinking the stupid might be contagious.

yea, sorry Titch .... I was cutting and pasting while you posted ... it was all just in the timing ..  ::MonkeyCool::

lol. i have such a headache tonight. i've been on hailey's threads more than i've spent with my family, when you add up all the time. that's making me feel bad. but to put it in perspective, think about it - all of us come on here to discuss and check on things. we may not all be in texas but we look for whatever we can on the computer. we search forums, discussions, etc. we dig up dirt. this is done on other forums, too. how can sooo many people be doing more than her own mother? how? why? it's a dang shame she can't lift her feet for her daughter but she sure doesn't have a problem lifting her legs for shawn.

going to bed before i vomit.

Trust me my friend, I know how you feel!  I was trying really hard to give Billie the benefit of the doubt wrt not searching for Hailey.  I was thinking, when all seems so hopeless, (where do you start?  which way to you go?) I was thinking maybe a depression set in and she couldn't get out of bed (or the house) ... but everytime I try to give her that courtesy, she opens her mouth on T.V. or now this ... Sorry .. I can't go with the depression defense.  I hope she likes her new haircut.   ::MonkeyMad::

Take care of you!  Why, oh why does one person, let alone a child ever have to go missing? 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 10, 2011, 11:34:39 PM
Klaas, thank you.

Goodnight everyone. May tonight be the night Hailey is found.

Peace.

Sleep well Tiche.  I hope you are feeling better tomorrow.

Janet

Thank you Janet. Sweet dreams.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 10, 2011, 11:38:36 PM
Im gonna go O/T for one hot sec to say good night & Titch I hope you feel better.

I've hit a limit tonight on my tolerance for what is going on & yet we have no answers as to what happened to Hailey.  I will continue to pray Hailey  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 10, 2011, 11:41:55 PM
I have a question...

Scurry County is famous for cotton. I'm assuming cotton crops have been around for ages. Considering slavery back in the day & cotton plantations being the crop of choice many years ago, could there be a place indigenous to cotton where Hailey could have been hidden and/or disposed of?

Here's my thought: Everyone's minds automatically go to oil wells bc of Shawn's job description and Texas is known for oil. However, when I read over the affidavits * warrants, I'm reminded of Shawn's poly. He showed deception which actually hinted that Hailey could be in Scurry County. Well, Scurry County TX is famous for cotton.

Just a thought that I think we may have overlooked...only trying to be thorough...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 10, 2011, 11:44:10 PM
Nite all ... every night left with the same questions ... how can a 13 yr old girl, "walking to a friends house" just go poof?  No one sees her, no one sees a suspicious car/person, no one hears anything ....  all leads point to ... she never left the house.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: invision on February 10, 2011, 11:46:42 PM
I have a question...

Scurry County is famous for cotton. I'm assuming cotton crops have been around for ages. Considering slavery back in the day & cotton plantations being the crop of choice many years ago, could there be a place indigenous to cotton where Hailey could have been hidden and/or disposed of?

Here's my thought: Everyone's minds automatically go to oil wells bc of Shawn's job description and Texas is known for oil. However, when I read over the affidavits * warrants, I'm reminded of Shawn's poly. He showed deception which actually hinted that Hailey could be in Scurry County. Well, Scurry County TX is famous for cotton.

Just a thought that I think we may have overlooked...only trying to be thorough...

Good line of thought .. but when he said Scurry County, I immediately thought she wasn't there.  Who is gonna hide a body somewhere then tell cops to go find it.  Unless he's really that cocky.  I think she may be at a previous job site of Shawns.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 10, 2011, 11:50:29 PM
I have a question...

Scurry County is famous for cotton. I'm assuming cotton crops have been around for ages. Considering slavery back in the day & cotton plantations being the crop of choice many years ago, could there be a place indigenous to cotton where Hailey could have been hidden and/or disposed of?

Here's my thought: Everyone's minds automatically go to oil wells bc of Shawn's job description and Texas is known for oil. However, when I read over the affidavits * warrants, I'm reminded of Shawn's poly. He showed deception which actually hinted that Hailey could be in Scurry County. Well, Scurry County TX is famous for cotton.

Just a thought that I think we may have overlooked...only trying to be thorough...

Also, it's famous for oil bc of it's location in the Permian Basin, which is crazy to me bc for the net value of crude they're drilling, why is the poverty level so low? It simply doesn't add up.

But it was famous for it's cotton crops first. I'm just wondering if it's something worth looking into.

Thanks all & goodnight.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 10, 2011, 11:55:42 PM
I have a question...

Scurry County is famous for cotton. I'm assuming cotton crops have been around for ages. Considering slavery back in the day & cotton plantations being the crop of choice many years ago, could there be a place indigenous to cotton where Hailey could have been hidden and/or disposed of?

Here's my thought: Everyone's minds automatically go to oil wells bc of Shawn's job description and Texas is known for oil. However, when I read over the affidavits * warrants, I'm reminded of Shawn's poly. He showed deception which actually hinted that Hailey could be in Scurry County. Well, Scurry County TX is famous for cotton.

Just a thought that I think we may have overlooked...only trying to be thorough...

Good line of thought .. but when he said Scurry County, I immediately thought she wasn't there.  Who is gonna hide a body somewhere then tell cops to go find it.  Unless he's really that cocky.  I think she may be at a previous job site of Shawns.

Wait a minute... I read over the affidavits. My interpretation is that Shawn didn't "say" Scurry County. I was thinking the investigators were questioning him as to where she could be, maybe asked if she was in Scurry County and Shawn said no - then it showed deception bc it was the opposit effect of what he was stating on the poly. Otherwise, how could they determine to look in Scurry County? If Shawn said Scurry County, the his poly wouldn't have shown deception bc the affidavit states they should look in Scurry County...capisce?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 12:05:42 AM
I have a question...

Scurry County is famous for cotton. I'm assuming cotton crops have been around for ages. Considering slavery back in the day & cotton plantations being the crop of choice many years ago, could there be a place indigenous to cotton where Hailey could have been hidden and/or disposed of?

Here's my thought: Everyone's minds automatically go to oil wells bc of Shawn's job description and Texas is known for oil. However, when I read over the affidavits * warrants, I'm reminded of Shawn's poly. He showed deception which actually hinted that Hailey could be in Scurry County. Well, Scurry County TX is famous for cotton.

Just a thought that I think we may have overlooked...only trying to be thorough...

Good line of thought .. but when he said Scurry County, I immediately thought she wasn't there.  Who is gonna hide a body somewhere then tell cops to go find it.  Unless he's really that cocky.  I think she may be at a previous job site of Shawns.

Wait a minute... I read over the affidavits. My interpretation is that Shawn didn't "say" Scurry County. I was thinking the investigators were questioning him as to where she could be, maybe asked if she was in Scurry County and Shawn said no - then it showed deception bc it was the opposit effect of what he was stating on the poly. Otherwise, how could they determine to look in Scurry County? If Shawn said Scurry County, the his poly wouldn't have shown deception bc the affidavit states they should look in Scurry County...capisce?

Found at this link:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9331.msg1290374#msg1290374

Here's the part of the affidavit I'm talking about - refer to the first big paragraph:
(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/0113pg5.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: yuknomenot on February 11, 2011, 12:24:01 AM
So which Trish gets to claim Brian Glasco, Naomi's mother or inappropriate girls' night out Trish?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 11, 2011, 12:27:29 AM
Hailey Dunn affidavit highlights: Inconsistencies, strange ‘hobbies'
By Brian Bethel
Abilene Reporter-News
Posted January 12, 2011 at 10:30 p.m.


<snipped>

Adkins volunteered to be subjected to a polygraph exam on three separate occasions. The first two attempts, he terminated the exam, walking out and refusing to cooperate. On the third try, he submitted to two stages of the test, the first indicating that he was being deceptive regarding knowing Hailey Dunn's whereabouts.

The second section contained questions asking where Hailey could be found. Adkins made a positive indication that she was in Scurry County.

When the third phase of the polygraph test began — with the intention of refining Hailey Dunn's location in Scurry County — Adkins refused to complete the test, walking out of the Colorado City Police Department.

<snipped>

Shawn Adkins told investigators that he was fired from his job at WSI in Snyder on Dec. 27 after an altercation with his supervisor. But investigators were told that Adkins was a good employee and hadn't been fired from the business.

According to the affidavits, Adkins had not had any altercations with supervisors, arriving to work at 6 a.m.

According to the records, he "went into the break room and purchased a Dr Pepper out of the vending machine, looked at the supervisor without saying a word, and then left the premises at 6:10 a.m."

<snipped>

Adkins told investigators that he left WSI and went straight to his mother's home in Big Spring, but telephone records indicate otherwise. It was determined that he initially returned to Colorado City instead.

<snipped>

Adkins apparently deleted contact information on his cell phone in front of an investigator who had asked to look at it again to verify calls he had made. The investigator asked Adkins what happened to the list. Adkins was "unable to give an answer."

<snipped>

Nothing was noted to be missing from Hailey Dunn's room, including an MP3 player, toothbrush, contact solution, jacket and other personal items that those who knew her said she would not have left home without.

<snipped>

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/12/inconsistenciesstrange-145hobbies/


AFFIDAVIT
http://www.newswest9.com/Global/link.asp?L=471989



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on February 11, 2011, 12:33:09 AM
http://168.51.178.33/webapp/TDCJ/index2.htm

I entered the bio Dad's name here, and got no results.
If anyone can turn it around or enter something different for a search, here u go.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 11, 2011, 12:36:28 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/MOD/modlock4.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on February 11, 2011, 12:41:28 AM
IF u lock it Klaas,
please leave me a key so I can get in
when I wake up ! ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Shell on February 11, 2011, 07:00:45 AM


I am so sorry, I have to take a break from all of this. Maybe days, maybe weeks, it is weighing so heavily on my heart,





Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Sister on February 11, 2011, 07:57:46 AM


I am so sorry, I have to take a break from all of this. Maybe days, maybe weeks, it is weighing so heavily on my heart,

Shell, I know how you feel . . . like Zahar . . . just had to stop for a while.  No disrespect to the children . . . just get overwhelmed.  In my thoughts and prayers.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cookie on February 11, 2011, 08:27:20 AM
Janet..if you see this, I would like to say that I really appreciate how you consistently clarify things .....there is so much going back and forth that sometimes it boggles the mind..And then you bring forth the article or quote so that it refreshes my memory or clarifies. I don't know how you keep track of everything...
thank you!

also, thanks to everyone for the info and articles that everyone provides...appreciate it... ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Northern Rose on February 11, 2011, 10:32:37 AM
Extra Help on the Way in the Search for Hailey Dunn

http://www.newswest9.com/Global/story.asp?S=14009424


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Northern Rose on February 11, 2011, 10:34:54 AM
Hailey Dunn Suspect Speaks, Calls Investigation “Witch Hunt”

http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/10/hailey-dunn-suspect-speaks-calls-investigation-%E2%80%9Cwitch-hunt%E2%80%9D/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 10:45:47 AM
Klaas, could you please tell me how to post a YouTube video? I am trying to post something but only a portion of the link shows up. Is something else supposed to be in brackets outside of <iframe>?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 11, 2011, 10:51:08 AM
Titch

Hope you are feeling better.

Did you see my last post regarding the Shawn and his comment to investigators regarding Scurry County?

Good Morning All.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 11, 2011, 10:53:30 AM
Klaas, could you please tell me how to post a YouTube video? I am trying to post something but only a portion of the link shows up. Is something else supposed to be in brackets outside of <iframe>?

[ html ] [ /html ]

If you add the above to the front and back of the embedded link it should show up.

Example

[ html ] youtube embedded url [ /htm l]

NOTE:  Remove the space after the bracket.  Had to add the space so it would show up.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 11:04:18 AM
Titch

Hope you are feeling better.

Did you see my last post regarding the Shawn and his comment to investigators regarding Scurry County?

Good Morning All.

Janet

Good morning, Janet (and everyone).

I think I have strep. Going to the dr later. My oldest has it so probably I do too. No biggie, tis the season.

Yes, I saw your last post, I just haven;t responded til now. Very sorry. You see, I don;t think Shawn came right out & said Hailey could be found in Scurry County. Notice how it's worded in the article, as well as the affidavit. I think investigators were questioning him during the poly, such as asking him if he knew where Hailey could be found, and Shawn showed deception when either replying no or maybe not saying anything at all but a nervous reaction occurred. Then investigators could have seen that he must know something about where Hailey could be, and that his pings suggested he was near or in CCity, so they started questioning the surrounding counties. When touched upon Scurry County, his poly showed a positive indication. The affidavit doesn't specifically say that Shawn said Hailey could be found in Scurry County, plus right before that he showed deception, then they resumed questioning when trying to find an area and his poly showed a positive indication Hailey could be found in Scurry County...then it says he walked out when they tried to pinpoint the location within Scurry County. Hope that makes sense.

When given a poly, the polygrapher concentrates on yes or no answers. When the subject is comfortable, they start talking more. The polygrapher makes note of it and looks at their peaks & dips. It's not always a yes or no thing. The poly tracks their anxiety within, as well as their outward appearance with regards to sweating, nerves, etc.

Something else that I'm wondering, and only by playing devil's advocate here, if there was a bad drug deal that happened in Scurry County, could that be why Shawn showed a positive indication she could be found there? Maybe he was thinking that a drug dealer from Scurry County took her?

Again, devil's advocate, I think Shawn is the culprit.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 11:24:25 AM
Ok, trying this again. If it doesn't work, here's the youtube a/c it can be found at:
http://www.youtube.com/user/FindHaileyDunn

I want to know more about Shawn's dad.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/EkQgnTwORcI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 11:33:44 AM
Ok, trying this again. If it doesn't work, here's the youtube a/c it can be found at:
http://www.youtube.com/user/FindHaileyDunn

I want to know more about Shawn's dad.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/EkQgnTwORcI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Ok, I must be doing something wrong. Here's the direct link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkQgnTwORcI&feature=player_embedded


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: joesamas mama on February 11, 2011, 11:52:20 AM
Ok, trying this again. If it doesn't work, here's the youtube a/c it can be found at:
http://www.youtube.com/user/FindHaileyDunn

I want to know more about Shawn's dad.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/EkQgnTwORcI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Ok, I must be doing something wrong. Here's the direct link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkQgnTwORcI&feature=player_embedded
Titch, would you like me to embed this for you?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 11:57:01 AM
Ok, trying this again. If it doesn't work, here's the youtube a/c it can be found at:
http://www.youtube.com/user/FindHaileyDunn

I want to know more about Shawn's dad.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/EkQgnTwORcI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Ok, I must be doing something wrong. Here's the direct link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkQgnTwORcI&feature=player_embedded
Titch, would you like me to embed this for you?
OMGosh, sure & thank you. I added the html inside of [] like Klaas said but it still didn't work. I ended it the right way, too, with the html with a / inside of []. I don't want to mess up this thread, I'll have to figure it out. I'm hesitant to load all this stuff onto my photobucket, bc look at what just happened to Klaas' a/c. I've saved alot to my comp to be on the safe side.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: joesamas mama on February 11, 2011, 12:01:10 PM
Ok, trying this again. If it doesn't work, here's the youtube a/c it can be found at:
http://www.youtube.com/user/FindHaileyDunn

I want to know more about Shawn's dad.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/EkQgnTwORcI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Ok, I must be doing something wrong. Here's the direct link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkQgnTwORcI&feature=player_embedded
Titch, would you like me to embed this for you?
OMGosh, sure & thank you. I added the html inside of [] like Klaas said but it still didn't work. I ended it the right way, too, with the html with a / inside of []. I don't want to mess up this thread, I'll have to figure it out. I'm hesitant to load all this stuff onto my photobucket, bc look at what just happened to Klaas' a/c. I've saved alot to my comp to be on the safe side.


Sorry, it isn't letting me do it either. I will try something else, but I have to run downstairs real quick.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: joesamas mama on February 11, 2011, 12:03:20 PM
Ok, trying this again. If it doesn't work, here's the youtube a/c it can be found at:
http://www.youtube.com/user/FindHaileyDunn

I want to know more about Shawn's dad.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/EkQgnTwORcI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Ok, I must be doing something wrong. Here's the direct link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkQgnTwORcI&feature=player_embedded
Titch, would you like me to embed this for you?
OMGosh, sure & thank you. I added the html inside of [] like Klaas said but it still didn't work. I ended it the right way, too, with the html with a / inside of []. I don't want to mess up this thread, I'll have to figure it out. I'm hesitant to load all this stuff onto my photobucket, bc look at what just happened to Klaas' a/c. I've saved alot to my comp to be on the safe side.
Figured it out...

I think... had to use the old embed code ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.youtube.com/v/EkQgnTwORcI?fs=1


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cookie on February 11, 2011, 12:07:43 PM
Ok, trying this again. If it doesn't work, here's the youtube a/c it can be found at:
http://www.youtube.com/user/FindHaileyDunn

I want to know more about Shawn's dad.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/EkQgnTwORcI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Ok, I must be doing something wrong. Here's the direct link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkQgnTwORcI&feature=player_embedded
Titch, would you like me to embed this for you?
OMGosh, sure & thank you. I added the html inside of [] like Klaas said but it still didn't work. I ended it the right way, too, with the html with a / inside of []. I don't want to mess up this thread, I'll have to figure it out. I'm hesitant to load all this stuff onto my photobucket, bc look at what just happened to Klaas' a/c. I've saved alot to my comp to be on the safe side.
Figured it out...

I think... had to use the old embed code ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.youtube.com/v/EkQgnTwORcI?fs=1

wow! this is disturbing on sooo many levels! I am going to have to bleach my brain to get this outta my head...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 11, 2011, 12:14:00 PM
Janet..if you see this, I would like to say that I really appreciate how you consistently clarify things .....there is so much going back and forth that sometimes it boggles the mind..And then you bring forth the article or quote so that it refreshes my memory or clarifies. I don't know how you keep track of everything...
thank you!

also, thanks to everyone for the info and articles that everyone provides...appreciate it... ::MonkeyKiss::

Thanks Cookie.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 12:20:35 PM
Thank you Joesamas Mama.

I've also made note of how you did it, compared it to the one I did & looked at your coding in the quote. I see on YouTube where you can get the old embed code and pull from it. So, now I know something new... Also noted that you can change the sizing of the video.

Again, thank you.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: joesamas mama on February 11, 2011, 12:27:16 PM
Thank you Joesamas Mama.

I've also made note of how you did it, compared it to the one I did & looked at your coding in the quote. I see on YouTube where you can get the old embed code and pull from it. So, now I know something new... Also noted that you can change the sizing of the video.

Again, thank you.
You are so welcome, I only knew how to do it the old embed way, took me a while to figure out how to get the old code.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 11, 2011, 12:37:21 PM
Thanks Titch and joesamas mama

In Shawn's exclusive interview with CNN affiliate KTAB this past week ... he attempts to explain this video.

Janet

++++++


Part II of Raw Interview with Hailey Dunn Suspect Shawn Adkins
Wednesday, February 09 2011


<snipped>

In the first video, Adkins tells Tiffany Tatro that his interest in horror films and crime stories is just a hobby.  The photos of him wearing a mask and wielding a knife were taken for Halloween, he said.

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339896


First Video:
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=%09339526

Second Video:
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=%09339746


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 11, 2011, 12:38:41 PM
Ok, trying this again. If it doesn't work, here's the youtube a/c it can be found at:
http://www.youtube.com/user/FindHaileyDunn

I want to know more about Shawn's dad.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/EkQgnTwORcI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Ok, I must be doing something wrong. Here's the direct link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkQgnTwORcI&feature=player_embedded
Titch, would you like me to embed this for you?
OMGosh, sure & thank you. I added the html inside of [] like Klaas said but it still didn't work. I ended it the right way, too, with the html with a / inside of []. I don't want to mess up this thread, I'll have to figure it out. I'm hesitant to load all this stuff onto my photobucket, bc look at what just happened to Klaas' a/c. I've saved alot to my comp to be on the safe side.
Figured it out...

I think... had to use the old embed code ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.youtube.com/v/EkQgnTwORcI?fs=1

To me, this goes well beyond an explanation of a fascination with horror movies & vile music lyrics.  It exhibits a propensity toward violence & an individual's racism...much like Billie's "dark boy" comment.  History has already smacked us in the face with murderers who are fixated on this dark side of humanity, such as the Columbine murderers, John Ditullio, etc.

Often Shawn's facial expressions are very disturbing & its my strong feeling that the evil within him is visible.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 11, 2011, 12:42:54 PM
Thanks Titch and joesamas mama

In Shawn's exclusive interview with CNN affiliate KTAB this past week ... he attempts to explain this video.

Janet

++++++


Part II of Raw Interview with Hailey Dunn Suspect Shawn Adkins
Wednesday, February 09 2011


<snipped>

In the first video, Adkins tells Tiffany Tatro that his interest in horror films and crime stories is just a hobby.  The photos of him wearing a mask and wielding a knife were taken for Halloween, he said.

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339896


First Video:
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=%09339526

Second Video:
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=%09339746


Halloween, yea right, okay


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: joesamas mama on February 11, 2011, 12:43:51 PM
Thanks Titch and joesamas mama

In Shawn's exclusive interview with CNN affiliate KTAB this past week ... he attempts to explain this video.

Janet

++++++


Part II of Raw Interview with Hailey Dunn Suspect Shawn Adkins
Wednesday, February 09 2011


<snipped>

In the first video, Adkins tells Tiffany Tatro that his interest in horror films and crime stories is just a hobby.  The photos of him wearing a mask and wielding a knife were taken for Halloween, he said.

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339896


First Video:
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=%09339526

Second Video:
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=%09339746

Thanks Janet, the video is very creepy and his facination with true crime being a hobby??? I have loads of true crime books, but I don't go running around in masks with knives. The guy just gives me the willies.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 12:46:22 PM
I'm wondering just how far the apple falls from the tree.

Klaas, or somebody that knows, how old is Shawn's brother? Is he of age to sleuth bc I saw in some of the old videos that were in Klaas' old Photobucket Shawn's brother getting high.

I also saw some interesting things on his MySpace a/c.

Most importantly, in those videos, if his bro was underage & getting high and/or drunk, the people "of age" should pay a penalty for aiding & abetting. Since everyone in that particular video were doing bad things, even if the vid is a year old, the statute shouldn't run out bc of a child being involved. What would be the statute of limitations on such an issue in the state of TX?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 11, 2011, 12:49:40 PM
I'm sure Nancy Grace is just thrilled (NOT!) that Shawn is turning the tables claiming that he and Billie watched her show & others simply because its something that catches their attention & follow.   

He cannot even justify his fascination with any reasonable merit.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 11, 2011, 12:53:44 PM
Thanks Titch and joesamas mama

In Shawn's exclusive interview with CNN affiliate KTAB this past week ... he attempts to explain this video.

Janet

++++++


Part II of Raw Interview with Hailey Dunn Suspect Shawn Adkins
Wednesday, February 09 2011


<snipped>

In the first video, Adkins tells Tiffany Tatro that his interest in horror films and crime stories is just a hobby.  The photos of him wearing a mask and wielding a knife were taken for Halloween, he said.

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339896


First Video:
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=%09339526

Second Video:
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=%09339746

Thanks Janet, the video is very creepy and his facination with true crime being a hobby??? I have loads of true crime books, but I don't go running around in masks with knives. The guy just gives me the willies.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Me too.  Yet Billie confirmed in an interview this past week that she "loves" him.

Janet




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 01:01:40 PM
I just thought of something. If Shawn's brother is still in school, and if he still lives in Big Spring with his mom, then he could have been at the mom's house in Big Spring when Shawn got there...right? Afterall, if he was still in school, he'd have had of for Christmas break...

I wonder if the police still have her computer tagged as evidence. Remember she gave it to them voluntarily, then when Shawn's info is questioned, his mom calls the station to let them know she's on her way to pick it up. They then processed it as evidence...or am I off a bit?

Klaas, do you still have those videos? If so, could you please look through the one of everybody getting high with Shawn's brother there? Could you look at the date on the upload? Thanks...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 01:06:42 PM
Hailey loved softball:

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/HaileySoftball.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 01:07:29 PM
She's a cool cat with her upside down visor & dark shades :)

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/HaileySoftball2.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: joesamas mama on February 11, 2011, 01:29:59 PM
Thanks Titch and joesamas mama

In Shawn's exclusive interview with CNN affiliate KTAB this past week ... he attempts to explain this video.

Janet

++++++


Part II of Raw Interview with Hailey Dunn Suspect Shawn Adkins
Wednesday, February 09 2011


<snipped>

In the first video, Adkins tells Tiffany Tatro that his interest in horror films and crime stories is just a hobby.  The photos of him wearing a mask and wielding a knife were taken for Halloween, he said.

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339896


First Video:
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=%09339526

Second Video:
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=%09339746

Thanks Janet, the video is very creepy and his facination with true crime being a hobby??? I have loads of true crime books, but I don't go running around in masks with knives. The guy just gives me the willies.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Me too.  Yet Billie confirmed in an interview this past week that she "loves" him.

Janet



  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Billie is crazy as a loon if she still "loves" him


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 11, 2011, 01:38:21 PM


(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5020/5427869953_0b567cf199_o.jpg)



2008/01/13 - "my sister Billie and her dude Shawn"


Obviously ... Shawn was already Billie's "dude" ... over three years ago.  Why would Billie and Shawn lie in regards to when the relationship began.

If Clint's words reveal the truth in regards to Shawn sleeping over one week following his and Billie's split and ... if Clint's words reveal the truth that it was Hailey who informed him ... then the character of Billie Dunn has truly been exposed.  IMO

Janet

++++++


Billie Dunn

Hailey Dunn: Billie Jean Dunn Radio Interview Feb 7: Transcription

<snipped>

How long have you and Shawn been together as a couple?

Two and a half years.


And are you in love with Shawn?

Yes.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/billie-jean-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-february-7-transcription/


Shawn Adkin

Hailey Dunn: Shawn Adkins: KTAB Interview Feb 7: Part II: Video 2: Transcript

<snipped>

Reporter: main thing you want people to know?

Shawn: The one thing I want them to know is that I have nothing to do with Hailey’s disappearance. I love Hailey with all my heart, and she means a lot to me. Even though I’ve known her for only two and a half years, but I would never do nothing to her, and like I said, I just hope for her safe return.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-shawn-adkins-ktab-interview-feb-7-part-ii-video-2-transcript/


Clint Dunn

Saturday, February 05, 2011
EXCLUSIVE: Billie Jean Dunn Revealed

 
by Peter Hyatt

<snipped>

Clint said that Billie was, early on, anti drug, in particular, against his use of marijuana, which he says he takes for pain rather than narcotics. Billie did, however, begin to take hydrocodone when they were together, though she had no pain, and likely increased her drug use greatly in the past two years with Shawn, who she has been with far longer than she likes to report. Just one week after kicking Clint out, Hailey told him that Shawn was spending the night there. He said she took it just "to get high" and didn't need it for any injury or painful condition.

<snipped>

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 11, 2011, 01:40:26 PM
Hailey loved softball:

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/HaileySoftball.jpg)

 ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks Titch.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 11, 2011, 01:43:01 PM
Hailey loved softball:

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/HaileySoftball.jpg)

Awws, what a beautiful picture of a happy Hailey...I want to be joyous over it but instead Im furious


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Lenie on February 11, 2011, 01:46:14 PM
Correct me if I am wrong but in the last video posted isn't that a picture of David's father? Right before the words "don't f*** with me". Was this maybe sent out as a threat to him?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Lenie on February 11, 2011, 01:47:19 PM
Hailey loved softball:

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/HaileySoftball.jpg)

Awws, what a beautiful picture of a happy Hailey...I want to be joyous over it but instead Im furious


I do love this picture, kind of ironic the name of the team.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 11, 2011, 01:55:12 PM


(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5020/5427869953_0b567cf199_o.jpg)



2008/01/13 - "my sister Billie and her dude Shawn"


Obviously ... Shawn was already Billie's "dude" ... over three years ago.  Why would Billie and Shawn lie in regards to when the relationship began.

If Clint's words reveal the truth in regards to Shawn sleeping over one week following his and Billie's split and ... if Clint's words reveal the truth that it was Hailey who informed him ... then the character of Billie Dunn has truly been exposed.  IMO

Janet

++++++


Billie Dunn

Hailey Dunn: Billie Jean Dunn Radio Interview Feb 7: Transcription

<snipped>

How long have you and Shawn been together as a couple?

Two and a half years.


And are you in love with Shawn?

Yes.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/billie-jean-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-february-7-transcription/


Shawn Adkin

Hailey Dunn: Shawn Adkins: KTAB Interview Feb 7: Part II: Video 2: Transcript

<snipped>

Reporter: main thing you want people to know?

Shawn: The one thing I want them to know is that I have nothing to do with Hailey’s disappearance. I love Hailey with all my heart, and she means a lot to me. Even though I’ve known her for only two and a half years, but I would never do nothing to her, and like I said, I just hope for her safe return.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-shawn-adkins-ktab-interview-feb-7-part-ii-video-2-transcript/


Clint Dunn

Saturday, February 05, 2011
EXCLUSIVE: Billie Jean Dunn Revealed

 
by Peter Hyatt

<snipped>

Clint said that Billie was, early on, anti drug, in particular, against his use of marijuana, which he says he takes for pain rather than narcotics. Billie did, however, begin to take hydrocodone when they were together, though she had no pain, and likely increased her drug use greatly in the past two years with Shawn, who she has been with far longer than she likes to report. Just one week after kicking Clint out, Hailey told him that Shawn was spending the night there. He said she took it just "to get high" and didn't need it for any injury or painful condition.

<snipped>

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html

It has already been established that Billi Jean Dunn-Dumm is a lying, cheating, spiteful,twisted skanky hoe.  Clearly, she met Shawn online while she was still living with Clint & carried on the relationship...shoot Clint's shoe print wasnt even invisible on the carpet & she had Shawn shacking up to shag her like a teenaged misguided runt. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 11, 2011, 01:58:03 PM
Hailey loved softball:

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/HaileySoftball.jpg)

Awws, what a beautiful picture of a happy Hailey...I want to be joyous over it but instead Im furious


I do love this picture, kind of ironic the name of the team.

O God! 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 11, 2011, 02:00:04 PM
Correct me if I am wrong but in the last video posted isn't that a picture of David's father? Right before the words "don't f*** with me". Was this maybe sent out as a threat to him?

It looks like the guy in the pic posted a few pages back...thought the same thing.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 02:19:39 PM
Oh My God...

I need to know something right now... Quick - Is Billie's mom's real name Constance?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 11, 2011, 02:20:47 PM
Oh My God...

I need to know something right now... Quick - Is Billie's mom's real name Constance?

That is the formal name for Connie


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 02:25:59 PM
Oh My God...

I need to know something right now... Quick - Is Billie's mom's real name Constance?

That is the formal name for Connie

Gimme one sec.

Oh, don't anybody go anywhere... I'm taking screen caps.

Klaas?..Ya there?..


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 11, 2011, 02:27:10 PM
Oh My God...

I need to know something right now... Quick - Is Billie's mom's real name Constance?

Is it a bird.  Is it a plane.  No. Our Tiche is on a mission.

 ::FlyingFrog::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 11, 2011, 02:28:35 PM
Tiche s/b Titch


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 02:30:39 PM
real quick - naomi's mom is the stewart, right?

but her name is patricia trichel? is that her real name?

naomi is a stewart. people said that trish is naomi's mom. katherine on that hailey dunn open discussion facebook a/c & clint's facebook a/c said that naomi's mom was with brian glasco...right?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 02:37:42 PM
this is gonna take some time. i don't want to post erroneous info. i have to verify the links first, especially if these could be innocent people.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 11, 2011, 03:06:04 PM
this is gonna take some time. i don't want to post erroneous info. i have to verify the links first, especially if these could be innocent people.

In that case ... I am off.

Hubby and I are off to the shops for some Valentine chocolate for the grandkids.  Daughter said something about a video rather than chocolate but ... I wasn't listening.

Later, Janet
12:05 PM PT



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Bud's Girl on February 11, 2011, 03:12:37 PM
real quick - naomi's mom is the stewart, right?

but her name is patricia trichel? is that her real name?

naomi is a stewart. people said that trish is naomi's mom. katherine on that hailey dunn open discussion facebook a/c & clint's facebook a/c said that naomi's mom was with brian glasco...right?

Sexy Texas Bombshell ?    Private, but Hailey as the profile pic.

http://www.myspace.com/patricia_trichel





Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on February 11, 2011, 03:20:26 PM
real quick - naomi's mom is the stewart, right?

but her name is patricia trichel? is that her real name?

naomi is a stewart. people said that trish is naomi's mom. katherine on that hailey dunn open discussion facebook a/c & clint's facebook a/c said that naomi's mom was with brian glasco...right?

Sexy Texas Bombshell ?    Private, but Hailey as the profile pic.

http://www.myspace.com/patricia_trichel




WHY on earth would Hailey's pic be here avatar ?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Lenie on February 11, 2011, 03:26:36 PM
I sent a friend request, we will see how that goes.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 11, 2011, 03:45:01 PM
real quick - naomi's mom is the stewart, right?

but her name is patricia trichel? is that her real name?

naomi is a stewart. people said that trish is naomi's mom. katherine on that hailey dunn open discussion facebook a/c & clint's facebook a/c said that naomi's mom was with brian glasco...right?

Sexy Texas Bombshell ?    Private, but Hailey as the profile pic.

http://www.myspace.com/patricia_trichel



Some stuck on stupid, immature & self-absorbed for certain.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 03:47:58 PM
I'm sorry, I know this isn't funny, but Connie (Clint's mom) cracks me up.

Connie - If you happen to read here, let it loose girl! Seriously. It certainly does appear as though Billie's trying to choke everybody around her with smoke. Jeesh.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001251345847#!/notes/connie-jones/my-past/145157695545936


But I do find this interesting: (same link)
Snip
Crystal Baker WHY IS BRIAN GLASCO A SUSPECT IN HAILEY DISAPERENCE?

Connie Jones because last year he and billie and hailey had words. and T.T blowed it up to be more then it was .so now he is mad at his whole famley,havn't talfed to hem for almoust a year .so if anyone is friends with T.T. watch YOU'R BACK.....



Me: That Trish sure does seem like a helluva trouble maker


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 11, 2011, 05:07:10 PM
real quick - naomi's mom is the stewart, right?

but her name is patricia trichel? is that her real name?

naomi is a stewart. people said that trish is naomi's mom. katherine on that hailey dunn open discussion facebook a/c & clint's facebook a/c said that naomi's mom was with brian glasco...right?

Sexy Texas Bombshell ?    Private, but Hailey as the profile pic.

http://www.myspace.com/patricia_trichel



Some stuck on stupid, immature & self-absorbed for certain.

Her facebook if you don't already have it:

http://www.facebook.com/patricia.trichel#!/patricia.trichel?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/patricia.trichel#!/patricia.trichel?sk=wall)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cartfly on February 11, 2011, 05:54:17 PM
Was this posted yet?? I don't know allot about Patricia/Trish as I haven't been around much lately.

<snipped>
 http://www.sansabanews.com/news/article/35828 (http://www.sansabanews.com/news/article/35828)


SS County Sheriff's Office Jail Log

All persons are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
October 28, 2010 • 0 comments • Post a comment

10/13/2010
- Trichel, Patricia Wrt. - Taylor Co - S.O.

10/15/2010


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 05:54:19 PM
Cute pic from Connie's page - Hailey looks so much more mature in this picture, adorable:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?fbid=131346270250417&id=100001251345847&aid=31325

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/169013_162967237088320_100001251345847_370072_2501197_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 06:05:44 PM
OMG, and from that same link above, here's the larger pic of Hailey holding Chloe with Naomi in the background. No matter what, I think it's plain to see Hailey's smile is so much bigger when with her father. Oh yeah, and there's that Warrior Intl hoodie. Jeesh, we wouldn't have had to research it so much if we would have just gone to Connie's page. Lawdy...

(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/179390_157011707683873_100001251345847_334985_4151337_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: FishstickKitty on February 11, 2011, 07:16:12 PM
Ok, trying this again. If it doesn't work, here's the youtube a/c it can be found at:
http://www.youtube.com/user/FindHaileyDunn

I want to know more about Shawn's dad.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/EkQgnTwORcI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Ok, I must be doing something wrong. Here's the direct link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkQgnTwORcI&feature=player_embedded
Titch, would you like me to embed this for you?
OMGosh, sure & thank you. I added the html inside of [] like Klaas said but it still didn't work. I ended it the right way, too, with the html with a / inside of []. I don't want to mess up this thread, I'll have to figure it out. I'm hesitant to load all this stuff onto my photobucket, bc look at what just happened to Klaas' a/c. I've saved alot to my comp to be on the safe side.
Figured it out...

I think... had to use the old embed code ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.youtube.com/v/EkQgnTwORcI?fs=1

Gahh..wtf is that?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: FishstickKitty on February 11, 2011, 07:17:53 PM
Thanks Titch and joesamas mama

In Shawn's exclusive interview with CNN affiliate KTAB this past week ... he attempts to explain this video.

Janet

++++++


Part II of Raw Interview with Hailey Dunn Suspect Shawn Adkins
Wednesday, February 09 2011


<snipped>

In the first video, Adkins tells Tiffany Tatro that his interest in horror films and crime stories is just a hobby.  The photos of him wearing a mask and wielding a knife were taken for Halloween, he said.

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339896


First Video:
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=%09339526

Second Video:
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=%09339746


Halloween, yea right, okay

you know what? I like horror movies and horror memorabilia..I even have an extensive collection of posters..some signed. BUT..I would never, even in my weirdest teen years, have made a video like that. That's beyond.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: cartfly on February 11, 2011, 07:48:01 PM
Ok, trying this again. If it doesn't work, here's the youtube a/c it can be found at:
http://www.youtube.com/user/FindHaileyDunn

I want to know more about Shawn's dad.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/EkQgnTwORcI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Ok, I must be doing something wrong. Here's the direct link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkQgnTwORcI&feature=player_embedded
Titch, would you like me to embed this for you?
OMGosh, sure & thank you. I added the html inside of [] like Klaas said but it still didn't work. I ended it the right way, too, with the html with a / inside of []. I don't want to mess up this thread, I'll have to figure it out. I'm hesitant to load all this stuff onto my photobucket, bc look at what just happened to Klaas' a/c. I've saved alot to my comp to be on the safe side.
I haven't been around lately on this case. What happened to the videos in Klaas account? I have one of the videos on my computer of SA and  Corey in the boat smoking weed at the Grandmother's. It was titled "push the friggin button" Does Klaas need a replacement for the video thread?
I will keep looking on my computer to see how many I saved that night.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 11, 2011, 07:48:55 PM
Was this posted yet?? I don't know allot about Patricia/Trish as I haven't been around much lately.

<snipped>
 http://www.sansabanews.com/news/article/35828 (http://www.sansabanews.com/news/article/35828)


SS County Sheriff's Office Jail Log

All persons are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
October 28, 2010 • 0 comments • Post a comment

10/13/2010
- Trichel, Patricia Wrt. - Taylor Co - S.O.

10/15/2010

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 11, 2011, 08:05:12 PM
Ok, trying this again. If it doesn't work, here's the youtube a/c it can be found at:
http://www.youtube.com/user/FindHaileyDunn

I want to know more about Shawn's dad.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/EkQgnTwORcI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Ok, I must be doing something wrong. Here's the direct link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkQgnTwORcI&feature=player_embedded
Titch, would you like me to embed this for you?
OMGosh, sure & thank you. I added the html inside of [] like Klaas said but it still didn't work. I ended it the right way, too, with the html with a / inside of []. I don't want to mess up this thread, I'll have to figure it out. I'm hesitant to load all this stuff onto my photobucket, bc look at what just happened to Klaas' a/c. I've saved alot to my comp to be on the safe side.
I haven't been around lately on this case. What happened to the videos in Klaas account? I have one of the videos on my computer of SA and  Corey in the boat smoking weed at the Grandmother's. It was titled "push the friggin button" Does Klaas need a replacement for the video thread?
I will keep looking on my computer to see how many I saved that night.

I have it but I'm afraid if I upload to Flickr I'll get in trouble.  Right after I uploaded those to photobucket someone complained (maybe not about that) and photobucket shut down my account.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 11, 2011, 08:05:12 PM
Trichel v. Liberty Mutual Insurance Company et al

Plaintiff: Patricia Trichel 
Defendants: Liberty Mutual Insurance Company  and Junie L Wolfe 
 
Case Number: 3:2010cv01914
Filed: September 23, 2010
 
Court: Texas Northern District Court
Office: Dallas         Office [ Court Info ]
County: Dallas
Presiding Judge: Sidney A Fitzwater
 
Nature of Suit: Contract - Insurance
Cause: 28:1332
Jurisdiction: Diversity         
Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff         

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/texas/txndce/3:2010cv01914/199884/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 08:27:28 PM
Trichel v. Liberty Mutual Insurance Company et al

Plaintiff: Patricia Trichel 
Defendants: Liberty Mutual Insurance Company  and Junie L Wolfe 
 
Case Number: 3:2010cv01914
Filed: September 23, 2010
 
Court: Texas Northern District Court
Office: Dallas         Office [ Court Info ]
County: Dallas
Presiding Judge: Sidney A Fitzwater
 
Nature of Suit: Contract - Insurance
Cause: 28:1332
Jurisdiction: Diversity         
Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff         

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/texas/txndce/3:2010cv01914/199884/


Looks like Patricia is the plaintiff. There appears to be 2 or 3 in TX. Is this the same one that is Naomi's mother? The plaintiff usually has the side of the lawyer?.....

Texas Attorney Cause Code 28:1332 as follows:

http://www.txed.uscourts.gov/page1.shtml?location=attorney:cause_codes
28:1332    28:1332 Diversity Retaliation Wrongful Termination
28:1332ac  28:1332 Diversity-Account Receivable
28:1332al  28:1332 Diversity-Airline Crash
28:1332as  28:1332 Diversity-Asbestos Litigation
28:1332au  28:1332 Diversity-Auto Negligence
28:1332bc  28:1332 Diversity-Breach of Contract
28:1332co  28:1332 Diversity-Conversion
28:1332ct  28:1332 Diversity-(Citizenship)
28:1332det 28:1332 Diversity: Forcible Detainer
28:1332df  28:1332 Diversity-Contract Default
28:1332ds  28:1332 Diversity-Contract Dispute
28:1332ed  28:1332 Diversity-Employment Discrimination
28:1332fd  28:1332 Diversity-Breach of Fiduciary Duty
28:1332fr  28:1332 Diversity-Fraud
28:1332ia  28:1332 Diversity-Interpleader Action
28:1332ij  28:1332 Diversity-Injunctive & Declaratory Relief
28:1332in  28:1332 Diversity-Insurance Contract
28:1332jd  28:1332 Diversity-Declaratory Judgement
28:1332lb  28:1332 Diversity-Libel,Assault,Slander
28:1332lm  28:1332 Diversity - Legal Malpractice
28:1332ma  28:1332 Diversity-Miller Act
28:1332mm  28:1332 Diversity-Medical Malpractice
28:1332mv  28:1332 Diversity-Motor Vehicle Product Liability
28:1332n  28:1332n Diversity-Norplant Product Liability
28:1332ni  28:1332 Diversity-Negotiable Instrument
28:1332nm  28:1332 Diversity-Non-Motor Vehicle
28:1332nr  28:1332 Diversity-Notice of Removal
28:1332oc  28:1332 Diversity-Other Contract
28:1332pd  28:1332 Diversity-Property Damage
28:1332pi  28:1332 Diversity-Personal Injury
28:1332pl  28:1332 Diversity-Product Liability
28:1332pr  28:1332 Diversity-Petition for Removal
28:1332qt  28:1332 Diversity-Petition to Quiet Title
28:1332ri  28:1332 Diversity-Racketeering (RICO) Act
28:1332sa  28:1332 - Diversity: Securities & Exchange Commiss
28:1332sf  28:1332 - Diversity: Securities Fraud
28:1332ss  28:1332 Diversity - Stockholders Suits
28:1332tl  28:1332 Diversity-Torts to Land
28:1332tm  28:1332 Diversity-Tort/Motor Vehicle (P.I.)
28:1332tn  28:1332 Diversity-Tort/Non-Motor Vehicle
28:1332wd  28:1332 Diversity-Wrongful Death


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 11, 2011, 08:34:33 PM
I'm sure Nancy Grace is just thrilled (NOT!) that Shawn is turning the tables claiming that he and Billie watched her show & others simply because its something that catches their attention & follow.   

He cannot even justify his fascination with any reasonable merit.

You know, there is one thing to have an interest in crimes and their solution, to wonder what makes a human mind able to do the horrible things that they do, and to try to make sense out of that to try to make the world seem a little more controlled place rather than a scary one.  But it's totally another thing to glorify crime, and I'm sorry - what I see SA and his friends and even Billy's  brother doing are glorifying cruelty, horror, and the breaking of laws.  As I had mentioned before, take a look at the cover art that they choose to represent their interests on their myspace and facebook pages.  Even BD's brother, Del, has yet another blonde dead and disemboweled on his myspace.  I didn't even know that this type of art exists so blatantly - and I'm young, a musician and artist.  I had NO idea.  I'm glad I previously didn't.  It glorifies the worst of what mankind does, and it's just evil.  But hey - what do you expect from someone who is proud to hail the devil?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 11, 2011, 08:37:28 PM
Cute pic from Connie's page - Hailey looks so much more mature in this picture, adorable:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?fbid=131346270250417&id=100001251345847&aid=31325

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/169013_162967237088320_100001251345847_370072_2501197_n.jpg)

Weird - the webpage from which that comes lists both Clinton Dunn and Brian Glasco as "son".


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 11, 2011, 08:42:03 PM
(picture snipped)
Cute pic from Connie's page - Hailey looks so much more mature in this picture, adorable:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?fbid=131346270250417&id=100001251345847&aid=31325
Weird - the webpage from which that comes lists both Clinton Dunn and Brian Glasco as "son".

And there's not only an explanation of her own past run in's with the law, but someone asks why Glasco is a "suspect" in Hailey's disappearance, and Connie doesn't disagree but says it was because he and Hailey had a fight last year.   "because last year he and billie and hailey had words. and T.T blowed it up to be more then it was .so now he is mad at his whole famley,havn't talfed to hem for almoust a year .so if anyone is friends with T.T. watch YOU'R BACK...."


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 08:43:11 PM
Brian is Clint's half brother.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 11, 2011, 08:48:06 PM
Brian is Clint's half brother.

... and married to Naomi's mother, Patricia Trichel?  Do I have that right?

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: starwynn on February 11, 2011, 08:59:37 PM
Brian is Clint's half brother.

Oh then I mist have gotten my wires crossed earlier because I thought it was said that BG was dating or married to Clint's mom.  Oops!!  That was a big whoopsie!   thanks for clarifying, Titch.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 09:08:48 PM
Brian is Clint's half brother.

... and married to Naomi's mother, Patricia Trichel?  Do I have that right?

Janet

As far as I can find, he is not married to Trish. Trish's mother Katherine said they were together or something like that but I don;t see them as having been married...unless I haven;t found it yet maybe...

I did come across this, though:

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txscurry/vitals/GroomFG.htm

(066158) GLASCO BRIAN K  25  -  STEWART CINDY L  29  -  6/12/1995

It would put their ages about right.

Cindy's Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001251492620


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 11, 2011, 09:14:01 PM
Brian is Clint's half brother.

Oh then I mist have gotten my wires crossed earlier because I thought it was said that BG was dating or married to Clint's mom.  Oops!!  That was a big whoopsie!   thanks for clarifying, Titch.

My "oops" too.

Janet

+++++


Kinda pot calling kettle black since Naomi's mom Trish was married to Brian Glasco who is in fact in the video with Clint, I find it hypocritical......

 ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 09:17:41 PM
Last night I was searching ancestry. I came across something but don't know if she's related. She looks familiar to somebody's mother. Is her maiden name Stewart? I was contemplating not throwing it out there, but just to be thorough here it is:

https://records.txdps.state.tx.us/DPS_WEB/SorNew/PublicSite/index.aspx?PageIndex=Individual&IND_IDN=2659368&SearchType=Name


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 11, 2011, 09:18:34 PM
Brian is Clint's half brother.

I am getting so confused.  Is this the Brian who is Clint's half brother.

Janet

+++++


Meet Brian Glasco aka freaker13 and his video of Clint and him getting high posted 31 Dec 2009

http://www.myspace.com/freaker13/videos




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 09:19:30 PM
Brian is Clint's half brother.

Oh then I mist have gotten my wires crossed earlier because I thought it was said that BG was dating or married to Clint's mom.  Oops!!  That was a big whoopsie!   thanks for clarifying, Titch.

My "oops" too.

Janet

+++++


Kinda pot calling kettle black since Naomi's mom Trish was married to Brian Glasco who is in fact in the video with Clint, I find it hypocritical......

 ::MonkeyShovel::

Were they married or dating? I haven't found proof they were married yet. I've only read they were together and/or dating...maybe living together or something.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 11, 2011, 09:22:53 PM
Brian is Clint's half brother.

... and married to Naomi's mother, Patricia Trichel?  Do I have that right?

Janet

As far as I can find, he is not married to Trish. Trish's mother Katherine said they were together or something like that but I don;t see them as having been married...unless I haven;t found it yet maybe...

I did come across this, though:

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txscurry/vitals/GroomFG.htm

(066158) GLASCO BRIAN K  25  -  STEWART CINDY L  29  -  6/12/1995

It would put their ages about right.

Cindy's Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001251492620

Stewart?  Does Naomi have a sister.

The Brian in the video with Clint appears to be a lot older than 25.  He could pass for Clint's older brother.  IMO

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Cappuccino on February 11, 2011, 09:23:34 PM
Trichel v. Liberty Mutual Insurance Company et al

Plaintiff: Patricia Trichel 
Defendants: Liberty Mutual Insurance Company  and Junie L Wolfe 
 
Case Number: 3:2010cv01914
Filed: September 23, 2010
 
Court: Texas Northern District Court
Office: Dallas         Office [ Court Info ]
County: Dallas
Presiding Judge: Sidney A Fitzwater
 
Nature of Suit: Contract - Insurance
Cause: 28:1332
Jurisdiction: Diversity         
Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff         

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/texas/txndce/3:2010cv01914/199884/


Looks like Patricia is the plaintiff. There appears to be 2 or 3 in TX. Is this the same one that is Naomi's mother? The plaintiff usually has the side of the lawyer?.....

 ::snipping2::

The Plaintiff in a civil matter is the complainant, the Defendant has to answer to the Plaintiff's claims (respondent).


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 09:31:54 PM
Brian is Clint's half brother.

I am getting so confused.  Is this the Brian who is Clint's half brother.

Janet

+++++


Meet Brian Glasco aka freaker13 and his video of Clint and him getting high posted 31 Dec 2009

http://www.myspace.com/freaker13/videos




Yes. As far as I can see, Brian Glasco is Clint's half brother.

Know what the confusion is? Connie, Clint's mom, thinks she's Liz Taylor and got married 7 times. I mean, hey - more power to Connie, bc I'd end up in the nuthouse after that many bad choices. I saw some of her Facebook wall & she seems really funny. Maybe not that intelligent but seems to have a good heart for her son, children & grandchildren.

Know what I think, Janet? I think this whole clan just doesn;t know any better. I think maybe this stuff was just a way of life to them. It sounds crazy but when children are being raised, they're like growing spoinges - they pull into them everything surrounding them. If they're raised around dysfunction, they don't know how to differentiate between good and bad. They just survive, doing what they were brought up to do. Poverty is absolutely no excuse. I know this, most of us know this, but to live in a dysfunctional environment that's poverty stricken and without fundamentals - you grow up without any hope. Without hope there can be no dreams, no true goals. Such a shame.

For some reason, Clint seems like he could get out of it if only he could get away for change. He should take Naomi, Chloe, Issa and David away when he gets himself together...make a life somewhere far away from there. I'm not saying it's CCity...I'm talking about the whole fruitcake family. Stinks bc it appears drugs were and still are a way of life for so many involved in that family. There's so many names tossed around that I'm wondering if there's some blending on all families sides. It's weird.

IMO, these folks need some good ole' Dr Phil. Jesus.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 09:33:53 PM
Brian is Clint's half brother.

... and married to Naomi's mother, Patricia Trichel?  Do I have that right?

Janet

As far as I can find, he is not married to Trish. Trish's mother Katherine said they were together or something like that but I don;t see them as having been married...unless I haven;t found it yet maybe...

I did come across this, though:

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txscurry/vitals/GroomFG.htm

(066158) GLASCO BRIAN K  25  -  STEWART CINDY L  29  -  6/12/1995

It would put their ages about right.

Cindy's Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001251492620

Stewart?  Does Naomi have a sister.

The Brian in the video with Clint appears to be a lot older than 25.  He could pass for Clint's older brother.  IMO

Janet

Janet, notice the date the marriage license was purchased. 6/12/95. That was 15 years ago.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 09:38:19 PM
Brian is Clint's half brother.

... and married to Naomi's mother, Patricia Trichel?  Do I have that right?

Janet

As far as I can find, he is not married to Trish. Trish's mother Katherine said they were together or something like that but I don;t see them as having been married...unless I haven;t found it yet maybe...

I did come across this, though:

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txscurry/vitals/GroomFG.htm

(066158) GLASCO BRIAN K  25  -  STEWART CINDY L  29  -  6/12/1995

It would put their ages about right.

Cindy's Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001251492620

Stewart?  Does Naomi have a sister.

The Brian in the video with Clint appears to be a lot older than 25.  He could pass for Clint's older brother.  IMO

Janet

Janet, notice the date the marriage license was purchased. 6/12/95. That was 15 years ago.

Also, I have no idea if they're still even married (Brian & Cindy). Heck, something else, maybe there's alot of Stewarts in that area. Idk. It's really confusing.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 11, 2011, 09:39:00 PM
Brian is Clint's half brother.

... and married to Naomi's mother, Patricia Trichel?  Do I have that right?

Janet

As far as I can find, he is not married to Trish. Trish's mother Katherine said they were together or something like that but I don;t see them as having been married...unless I haven;t found it yet maybe...

I did come across this, though:

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txscurry/vitals/GroomFG.htm

(066158) GLASCO BRIAN K  25  -  STEWART CINDY L  29  -  6/12/1995

It would put their ages about right.

Cindy's Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001251492620

Stewart?  Does Naomi have a sister.

The Brian in the video with Clint appears to be a lot older than 25.  He could pass for Clint's older brother.  IMO

Janet

Janet, notice the date the marriage license was purchased. 6/12/95. That was 15 years ago.

That makes sense.  Brian would be about 40 years old.  How does Cindy fit in.  Naomi's side of the family?  Billie Dunn's side of the family?  Consider both Billie and Naomi are connect to "Stewart" ... could it be that they are related somehow?

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on February 11, 2011, 09:45:55 PM
Hailey Dunn affidavit highlights: Inconsistencies, strange ‘hobbies'
By Brian Bethel
Abilene Reporter-News
Posted January 12, 2011 at 10:30 p.m.


<snipped>

Adkins volunteered to be subjected to a polygraph exam on three separate occasions. The first two attempts, he terminated the exam, walking out and refusing to cooperate. On the third try, he submitted to two stages of the test, the first indicating that he was being deceptive regarding knowing Hailey Dunn's whereabouts.

The second section contained questions asking where Hailey could be found. Adkins made a positive indication that she was in Scurry County.

When the third phase of the polygraph test began — with the intention of refining Hailey Dunn's location in Scurry County — Adkins refused to complete the test, walking out of the Colorado City Police Department.

<snipped>

Shawn Adkins told investigators that he was fired from his job at WSI in Snyder on Dec. 27 after an altercation with his supervisor. But investigators were told that Adkins was a good employee and hadn't been fired from the business.

According to the affidavits, Adkins had not had any altercations with supervisors, arriving to work at 6 a.m.

According to the records, he "went into the break room and purchased a Dr Pepper out of the vending machine, looked at the supervisor without saying a word, and then left the premises at 6:10 a.m."

<snipped>

Adkins told investigators that he left WSI and went straight to his mother's home in Big Spring, but telephone records indicate otherwise. It was determined that he initially returned to Colorado City instead.

<snipped>

Adkins apparently deleted contact information on his cell phone in front of an investigator who had asked to look at it again to verify calls he had made. The investigator asked Adkins what happened to the list. Adkins was "unable to give an answer."

<snipped>

Nothing was noted to be missing from Hailey Dunn's room, including an MP3 player, toothbrush, contact solution, jacket and other personal items that those who knew her said she would not have left home without.

<snipped>

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/12/inconsistenciesstrange-145hobbies/


AFFIDAVIT
http://www.newswest9.com/Global/link.asp?L=471989



Back to Shawn!

I firmly believe that the original of the text message to Mary Beth at 2:00 PM on the afternoon of December 27 will be the smoking gun.  Shawn will be arrested ... body or not body.  IMO

Janet

++++++


Mom of Hailey's Friend on the Sleepover That Never Happened
Sunday, January 23 2011


<snipped>

(Cecilia) Garcia says on the day Hailey disappeared, Mary beth received a text message that said "what are you doing?"

She says the message was sent from Hailey's mother's cell phone at about 2 o'clock, which Hailey always used, but Garcia says she worries that there is no evidence to prove Hailey sent that message.

The Garcia family says authorities have taken that text message as evidence in the investigation.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=334376



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 09:49:24 PM
Brian is Clint's half brother.

... and married to Naomi's mother, Patricia Trichel?  Do I have that right?

Janet

As far as I can find, he is not married to Trish. Trish's mother Katherine said they were together or something like that but I don;t see them as having been married...unless I haven;t found it yet maybe...

I did come across this, though:

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txscurry/vitals/GroomFG.htm

(066158) GLASCO BRIAN K  25  -  STEWART CINDY L  29  -  6/12/1995

It would put their ages about right.

Cindy's Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001251492620

Stewart?  Does Naomi have a sister.

The Brian in the video with Clint appears to be a lot older than 25.  He could pass for Clint's older brother.  IMO

Janet

Janet, notice the date the marriage license was purchased. 6/12/95. That was 15 years ago.

That makes sense.  Brian would be about 40 years old.  How does Cindy fit in.  Naomi's side of the family?  Billie Dunn's side of the family?  Consider both Billie and Naomi are connect to "Stewart" ... could it be that they are related somehow?

Janet

I'm wondering if they're all linked, literally.

Janet, here's a link to Marriage License Applications for Scurry County alone. It's for the "Brides" and under "S". Look for Stewart - jeesh there's a bunch plus some dupes.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txscurry/vitals/BrideS.htm


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 11, 2011, 10:04:14 PM
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Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: curiousone on February 11, 2011, 10:05:00 PM
The other day a poster shared an email with us by someone who searches with the Hailey's Angels.

Just thought you all might be interested in some comments, particularly CD's in the following link:

http://www.facebook.com/notes/connie-jones/my-past/145157695545936#!/topic.php?uid=189599337718905&topic=257


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 11, 2011, 10:05:35 PM
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Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 11, 2011, 10:05:54 PM
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Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 11, 2011, 10:06:16 PM
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Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 11, 2011, 10:06:35 PM
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Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: Titch on February 11, 2011, 10:07:14 PM
Hailey Dunn affidavit highlights: Inconsistencies, strange ‘hobbies'
By Brian Bethel
Abilene Reporter-News
Posted January 12, 2011 at 10:30 p.m.


<snipped>

Adkins volunteered to be subjected to a polygraph exam on three separate occasions. The first two attempts, he terminated the exam, walking out and refusing to cooperate. On the third try, he submitted to two stages of the test, the first indicating that he was being deceptive regarding knowing Hailey Dunn's whereabouts.

The second section contained questions asking where Hailey could be found. Adkins made a positive indication that she was in Scurry County.

When the third phase of the polygraph test began — with the intention of refining Hailey Dunn's location in Scurry County — Adkins refused to complete the test, walking out of the Colorado City Police Department.

<snipped>

Shawn Adkins told investigators that he was fired from his job at WSI in Snyder on Dec. 27 after an altercation with his supervisor. But investigators were told that Adkins was a good employee and hadn't been fired from the business.

According to the affidavits, Adkins had not had any altercations with supervisors, arriving to work at 6 a.m.

According to the records, he "went into the break room and purchased a Dr Pepper out of the vending machine, looked at the supervisor without saying a word, and then left the premises at 6:10 a.m."

<snipped>

Adkins told investigators that he left WSI and went straight to his mother's home in Big Spring, but telephone records indicate otherwise. It was determined that he initially returned to Colorado City instead.

<snipped>

Adkins apparently deleted contact information on his cell phone in front of an investigator who had asked to look at it again to verify calls he had made. The investigator asked Adkins what happened to the list. Adkins was "unable to give an answer."

<snipped>

Nothing was noted to be missing from Hailey Dunn's room, including an MP3 player, toothbrush, contact solution, jacket and other personal items that those who knew her said she would not have left home without.

<snipped>

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/12/inconsistenciesstrange-145hobbies/


AFFIDAVIT
http://www.newswest9.com/Global/link.asp?L=471989



Back to Shawn!

I firmly believe that the original of the text message to Mary Beth at 2:00 PM on the afternoon of December 27 will be the smoking gun.  Shawn will be arrested ... body or not body.  IMO

Janet

++++++


Mom of Hailey's Friend on the Sleepover That Never Happened
Sunday, January 23 2011


<snipped>

(Cecilia) Garcia says on the day Hailey disappeared, Mary beth received a text message that said "what are you doing?"

She says the message was sent from Hailey's mother's cell phone at about 2 o'clock, which Hailey always used, but Garcia says she worries that there is no evidence to prove Hailey sent that message.

The Garcia family says authorities have taken that text message as evidence in the investigation.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=334376



Why won't they release where it originated from? I'm wondering if it did originate from Billie's cell that was left home. I'm so curious to know where it pinged. Did it ping in Big Spring? If it did, wouldn't that have been in the affidavit as well? Billie volunteered her phone, handed it over to the police. With Hailey being missing, if that phone pinged in areas that Shawn was at in Big Spring, then wouldn't that be enough for le to hold him for a few days?

Also, something I thought of earlier, if Tyler is still in hs and living at his house with his mom, then wouldn't he have been there when Shawn went to Big Spring? As far as we know, le still has that computer, too. Surely they should have something by now. So many people talk about having to have a body in order to have a successful prosecution but there's enough circumstantial evidence right now to at the very least hold some people for a good lengthy time. Last I heard, those videotapes could be used against them. Plus I know I saw Shawn's brother in one of those original videos getting high with the guys that were older. That's a felony for everyone overage. If a child wasn't involved, it could be classified as a misdemeanor. It's like supplying alcohol to a minor.

Example: True story - some months ago my now 17 y/o was 16 and was with a 15 y/o friend of his. They were going to hang out at a buddy's house. Well his friend's mom thought she's be cool & purchase some 4Loco for them. She did this, handed it to them, and dropped them off at their friend's house. My son wasn;t checking in so I drove over there & banged on the garage like I was the cops. You shoulda heard all the cans being thrown all over the place. Lol. I thought I could handle it & it was just something stupid that alot of kids try, UNTIL I found out his friend's mom bought the 4Loco. Those drinks ain't no joke. I went to the police to put it on record. I had to take it serious. I even took the chance of my son getting in trouble & he was sooo mad bc he wants to be a cop. A couple of weeks later, a lady in Philly was sentenced to 10 years in prison for supplying alcohol to minors. Her son had a graduation party & she just thought it would be ok since they'd do it anyway, at least she'd take everybody's keys & keep them home with her there. Well she thought wrong. She was charged with SEVERAL COUNTS bc each minor earned her another count. She's not elligible for early release til 8 years! OMG. You should be able to google that case.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
Post by: klaasend on February 11, 2011, 10:07:19 PM
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Please move to Hailey #7

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9404.0