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Thanks you guys.

Praying that everyone will see this beautiful girl's smile soon...

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/HaileySoftball.jpg)

yep! hoping she is found soon..

soooooooo...is Clint's half brother, with/married to/dating/sexing/whatever/ with Naomi's mother? am I getting that right?  ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

Yup, looks that way.

Makes one wonder doesn't it? Family get togethers must be a hoot, instead of bringing something for pot luck and playing musical chairs, this bunch is swapping drugs and playing musical bedrooms. Gives a whole new dimension to who's who in this case. I bet they can't even figure it out! ::MonkeyDevil::

From snooping around on "Connie Jones" FB, it looks like they have allot of relatives in California. I think some are in Bakersfield. I think I saw on Clint Dunn's personal facebook profile he listed California as where he was from also. The dynamics are so confusing.....I am about to pull out my crayons and start drawing stick people so I can keep all of this straight in my head.  ::MonkeyCool::

Also found this though not always accurate but it would put Brian at about 40 or so as shown on thread #6.

http://www.ussearch.com/consumer/people-search/names/tx+snyder/brian/glasco.html (http://www.ussearch.com/consumer/people-search/names/tx+snyder/brian/glasco.html)

Brian Glasco
Brian K Glasco
Brian Keith Glasco
Keith B Glasco
Glasco Brian Keith
Age 41
         Snyder, TX
                        Abilene, TX

Tamiko/Janet>>

What do you make of this? Does the S.O mean what I think it does?


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Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 -
« Reply #946 on: February 11, 2011, 04:54:17 PM »
   
Was this posted yet?? I don't know allot about Patricia/Trish as I haven't been around much lately.

<snipped>
http://www.sansabanews.com/news/article/35828 (http://www.sansabanews.com/news/article/35828)

SS County Sheriff's Office Jail Log

All persons are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
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10/13/2010
- Trichel, Patricia Wrt. - Taylor Co - S.O.

10/15/2010http://

DOB 11 Nov 1969  , go to the Who's Who thread for the case it is posted in there as well as Clint's.

I just posted this in the Who's Who thread. Posting here for clarity as we've been wondering why Billie's dad is never in the picture. Read on:

Billie Jean's dad passed away in 92.

Thanks to Seahorse for supplying this on thread #4.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9336.msg1295294#msg1295294

Good evening Monkey's,

I am curious, if BJD is originally from NM.  Why?  I could not find a Texas, BR for BD. 

The Lubbock Newpaper, Obit, Archivies, only go back to 1993- I was not able to access the Obit for Mr. O. I do not know if this gentleman is related to her or not.  I believe BD's brother, is born in TX, and the brothers middle name may be Dean. Curious... Please correct me if I am in error.  TIA 


•  ID: I67
•  Name: Delbert Dean OSTRANDER
•  Given Name: Delbert Dean
•  Surname: Ostrander
•  Sex: M
•  Birth: 23 NOV 1961 in Clayton,Union Co,NM
•  Death: 22 OCT 1992 in Lubbock,Lubbock Co,TX
•  Burial: Snyder Cem,Snyder,Scurry Co,TX
•  Note:
DEATH: Have copy of obituary.
Lubbock Avalanche-Journal, Sun. 25 Oct 1992, pg. 6A

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ceafamily&id=I67

LOL No wonder I was so confused about who he was "attached" to!   :smt101

& just to add more confusion to the mix...
Brian and Cindy took out a marriage application on 6/12/1995.
Cindy and Trish are not the same person. Are they related?

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txscurry/vitals/GroomFG.htm
(066158) GLASCO BRIAN K  25  -  STEWART CINDY L  29  -  6/12/1995

I haven't been active here like I was early on but I think I found where David's father is. I thought I had read somewhere that he was rumored to be in jail. So I did a vine search. 
Did yall see this yet?

http://168.51.178.33/webapp/TDCJ/InmateDetails.jsp?sidnumber=05955382  (http://168.51.178.33/webapp/TDCJ/InmateDetails.jsp?sidnumber=05955382)

SID Number:    05955382
TDCJ Number:    01683464
Name:    GLORIA,DAVID
Race:    H
Sex:    M
Age:    31
Maximum Sentence Date:    2013-09-27       
Current Facility:    GARZA EAST
Projected Release Date:    2012-02-15
Parole Eligibility Date:    2011-02-01
 
SPECIAL INFORMATION FOR SCHEDULED RELEASE:
Scheduled Release Date:    Offender is not scheduled for release at this time.
Scheduled Release Type:    Will be determined when release date is scheduled.
Scheduled Release Location:    Will be determined when release date is scheduled.
 
Offense History:
Offense Date    Offense    Sentence Date    County    Case No.    Sentence (Y-MM-DD)
2000-11-02    ASLT ON PUBLIC SERVANT    2001-04-23    GONZALES    8-01    5-00-00
2009-02-10    POSS MARIJ 4OZ-5LBS    2010-09-30    GUADALUPE    09-1961-CR    3-00-00
 ::rhino::

Titche

All your research must be overwelming.  Thank you.

1.  Why was Billie Dunn's surname OSTRANDER when David was born but ... it was STEWART when she married Clint?

2.  Was Billie's mother married to a STEWART prior to marrying OSTRANDER?

3.  Could STEWART have been Billie's father ... a name she reverted to following the birth of her son?

Janet

From what I'm gathering, Billie's mom Connie's last name was Stewart when she had her, but she was also with Del Ostrander, which is Billie's biological father. When children are born to an unwed mother, in most states they automatically take the surname of the mother back then...now it's different as long as the dad ok's it. Chances are that Del Ostrander was there when Billie was born but legally wasn't married so her surname was her mother's surname. Does that make sense? I'm not positive, but it's the only thing that adds up to me. I just read on Hailey Dunn Open Discussion that Billie's father was killed in 1992, and that he was not her stepfather like many thought but is indeed her biological father. That's the same info I have so I'm going with it.

I didn't know about him being killed, though. I'm in the middle of trying to find that now...having a hard time.

As far as research goes - I do no more than you or anybody else here. This is why I like it so much bc everybody's a team...differing opinions sometimes but a big family imo. I've lurked here forever it seems, and love Blink's site too, but since I started posting here, I barely post on other forums. There's a certain level of comfort and appreciation, even when I'm reprimanded that keeps me coming back for more. So many diverse minds, thoughtful logic, all put together in one big melting pot - isn't duplicated anywhere else imho. ::MonkeyKiss::

I meant to add this: This is why sometimes the birth record differs from the birth certificate.

Thanks Titch.

Clint's mother - Connie Jones

Billie's mother - Connie Stewart

Where did DUNN come into the picture?

 ::MonkeyTongue::

Janet

Clint's father

Not sure yet...but don't forget, Connie Jones was married 7 times. My GOD where to begin. They're dysfunctional family is like watching SOAP back in the day, jeez. It's enough to make somebody sane go bonkers...literally!

[insert crack smokin' monkey here]

lmao - you crack me up capp!

hehe...my God this group has an array of habitual liars, drug abusers, phony frauds, and even serial brides!    Its got me thinking of an oldie but goodie tune....Dizzy, I"m so dizzy my head is spinning, like a whirlpool it never ends...  (the rest of the song has no meaning to the case but its opening sentiment does)

Good gravy, all we want to do is find out what happened to Hailey & what we're left with is comparing just how dysfunctional one family member or another and their associates are knee deep in muck!

ESCONDIDO: Team Amber Rescue fundraiser to be held Sunday

ESCONDIDO ---- The family of slain teen Amber Dubois will host a dinner on Sunday to formally introduce Team Amber Rescue, a search and rescue organization formed in her honor.

The money raised through the dinner and accompanying silent auction will go toward the organization to train volunteers, purchase a search and rescue dog and pay for local volunteers to travel to Texas to search for teenager Hailey Dunn, missing since Dec. 28.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/escondido/article_6b8e27ba-6cd8-5276-8fdd-1400dc2b58d8.html

Search For Hailey Dunn Resumes Saturday

ABILENE, Texas -- The search for missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn resumes Saturday.

Wednesday, only four volunteers showed up to search. The weather, which was blamed for the low turn out, is expected to be much warmer this weekend.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26839517/detail.html

These families will be lucky if their kiddos grow up drug free, and are responsible young adults.
Billie, Shawn, and now David's Dad......all self medicate themselves, and have been poor role models
for their children.

I cannot decide WHAT family is the lesser of the 2, Cummings or Dunn's ?

Yep, Texas had the second half of our cold front, very unwelcome, and very very cold.  The weather really has been against the Hailey search; hopefully, from this point forward it will improve!! 

Back to Shawn ...

Hailey Dunn affidavit highlights: Inconsistencies, strange ‘hobbies'
By Brian Bethel
Abilene Reporter-News
Posted January 12, 2011 at 10:30 p.m.

<snipped>

Adkins volunteered to be subjected to a polygraph exam on three separate occasions. The first two attempts, he terminated the exam, walking out and refusing to cooperate. On the third try, he submitted to two stages of the test, the first indicating that he was being deceptive regarding knowing Hailey Dunn's whereabouts.

The second section contained questions asking where Hailey could be found. Adkins made a positive indication that she was in Scurry County.

When the third phase of the polygraph test began — with the intention of refining Hailey Dunn's location in Scurry County — Adkins refused to complete the test, walking out of the Colorado City Police Department.

<snipped>

Shawn Adkins told investigators that he was fired from his job at WSI in Snyder on Dec. 27 after an altercation with his supervisor. But investigators were told that Adkins was a good employee and hadn't been fired from the business.

According to the affidavits, Adkins had not had any altercations with supervisors, arriving to work at 6 a.m.

According to the records, he "went into the break room and purchased a Dr Pepper out of the vending machine, looked at the supervisor without saying a word, and then left the premises at 6:10 a.m."

<snipped>

Adkins told investigators that he left WSI and went straight to his mother's home in Big Spring, but telephone records indicate otherwise. It was determined that he initially returned to Colorado City instead.

<snipped>

Adkins apparently deleted contact information on his cell phone in front of an investigator who had asked to look at it again to verify calls he had made. The investigator asked Adkins what happened to the list. Adkins was "unable to give an answer."

<snipped>

Nothing was noted to be missing from Hailey Dunn's room, including an MP3 player, toothbrush, contact solution, jacket and other personal items that those who knew her said she would not have left home without.

<snipped>

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/12/inconsistenciesstrange-145hobbies/


AFFIDAVIT
http://www.newswest9.com/Global/link.asp?L=471989

Back to Shawn ...

I firmly believe that the origin of the text message to Mary Beth at 2:00 PM on the afternoon of December 27 will be the smoking gun.  Shawn will be arrested ... body or no body.  IMO

Think about it.  When Billie Dunn reveals all the alleged "Hailey sightings" ... alleged "Hailey sightings" that she believes can affirm that her daughter was alive on December 27th ... there is no mention of the text message received by Mary Beth at 2:00 PM that implies that Hailey was the author.

Does Billie realized that the text message originated in Big Spring.  In other words ... Shawn was the author ... not Hailey.

Janet

++++++


The Text Message

Cecilia Garcia

Mom of Hailey's Friend on the Sleepover That Never Happened
Sunday, January 23 2011

<snipped>

(Cecilia) Garcia says on the day Hailey disappeared, Mary beth received a text message that said "what are you doing?"

She says the message was sent from Hailey's mother's cell phone at about 2 o'clock, which Hailey always used, but Garcia says she worries that there is no evidence to prove Hailey sent that message.

The Garcia family says authorities have taken that text message as evidence in the investigation.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=334376


Hailey Sightings

Billie Dunn

Billie Jean Dunn Press Conference, January 31, 2011, Transcribed

<snipped>

I do not understand why they seem to have disregarded all of the witnesses who have come forward to say they saw Hailey on Monday, December 27th.

Two of my neighbors came forward to say they saw Hailey in my back yard around noon.

Another neighbor said he saw Hailey and a small dark boy, probably Naomi’s son, two times between 10:30 and noon.

A woman who knows Hailey, and the friend she was supposed to spend the night with, saw them both walking together in front of Alco around 8:30pm. This woman was returning a movie to the Redbox, and passed by them. She still had a receipt, and brought it by and showed it to me the other day, with the date of the 27th, and the time of 8:36.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/01/31/hailey-dunn-billie-jean-dunn-press-conference-january-31-transcription-1/


Sightings Cannot be Validated

Colorado City Manager

VIDEO: Billie Dunn Tries To Dispell Rumors Surrounding Her Daughter's Disappearance
POSTED: 6:26 pm CST January 31, 2011
UPDATED: 10:40 pm CST January 31, 2011

<snipped>

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer says the witness statements mentioned by Billie could not be validated.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26683573/detail.html

Good Morning All

Company coming from the States for the weekend ... so I have to finish cleaning house.  I don't want them to get the idea I spend all day on the computer.

 ::monkeydust::

I will be checking in every now and again for anticipated updates.

Janet
9:20 AM PT

Searchers Brave Cold in Search for Hailey Dunn

Volunteer searchers trained by two national missing child search organizations will be back out searching in and around Colorado City Saturday for missing 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.
Due to frigid temperatures earlier in the week, very few volunteers took part in organized searches. Now, temperatures will be warming up and volunteers are more hopeful their search parties will grow.

The Laura Recovery Center and KlaasKids came to help organize community searches last month and will do the same on Feb. 19 and 20.

 ::snipping2::

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=341466

Are Cindy Stewart & Connie Stewart (Billie Jean's mom) related? Anybody know if they are sisters, or step-sisters, or ex-step-sisters, etc?

If Cindy was married to Brian Glasco, and if Cindy is Connie's sister or half sister, then that would make her Billie Jean's aunt and Brian would have been her uncle. Then if Brian was seeing Patricia (Naomi Stewart's mom) then that would bring him in from the other side of Hailey's family, especially if he is Clint's half brother. If Brian is divorced from Cindy, and if Brian isn't married to Patricia (which I think they were only seeing each other), then that would explain why Clint & Billie said "the person isn't a member of the family but somebody the family knows very well or knew Hailey very wel").

Could Brian Glasco be Clint's ex-step-brother instead of half-brother? Could he also be Billie Jean's ex-uncle from her mom's side if she's related to Cindy? Jeez, I was being sarcastic when I said before that for all we know they could all be related. Now this kinda stuff makes ya wonder.

i googled ostrander texas,and clicked this site, anyway is it saying billie name is rita
im not a member,so cant view the details

from Ancestry.com

Birth, Baptism & Christening
 
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Name:  Hailey Darlene Dunn
Mother:  Billie Jean Ostrander
Birth:  date - Scurry
 
 Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997
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Birth, Baptism & Christening
 
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Name:  Delbert David Gloria
Mother:  Billie Jean Ostrander
Birth:  date - Lubbock
 
 Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997
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Birth, Baptism & Christening
 
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Name:  Rita Jean Ostrander
Father:  Charles Benjami Ostrander
Birth:  date - Travis
 
 Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997

http://tinyurl.com/4rfwslp

 ::monkeydust::

Tea Time!
_____


THE MANIPULATION OF THE CHAIN OF EVENTS

As of January 19th  ... Shawn Adkins had yet to reveal to his attorney that he had stopped at Grandma's home on his way to Big Spring.

On January 19th ... Sydney Lyle was making of futile attempt to explain why pings from Shawn's cell phone would bounce off the tower in Colorado City while he was enroute to Big Spring.

When was the stop at Grandma's home inserted into the chain of events ... grandma who did not answer a 20 minute knocking on the door ... the time period of pinging that occured off the Colorado City tower.

Could it be that following Billie departure to work ... Shawn returned home during this 20 minute period ... retrieved a deceased Hailey and ....

Janet

+++++


Affidavit

Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 2:17 pm CST January 12, 2011

<snipped>

One inconsistency in Adkins’ statements involved his employment on Dec. 27. Adkins told investigators that he was fired that day, but authorities contacted the employer, who said that Adkins was a good employee and that he hadn’t been fired.

Nevertheless, Adkins left his place of employment at 6:10 a.m. on the morning of Dec. 27 and told investigators that he went straight to his mother’s house in Big Spring. However, cell phone records indicate that Adkins’ cell phone was in contact with cell towers in the Colorado City area from 6:35 a.m. until 6:56 a.m., during the time when he said he was traveling to Big Spring.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


Shawn Atkin's Attorney

Adkins' Lawyer: Phone Records Could Be Incorrect
POSTED: 2:43 pm CST January 19, 2011
UPDATED: 3:09 pm CST January 19, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- The lawyer representing the only named suspect in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn, Shawn Adkins, says that phone records placing Adkins in the vicinity of the Dunn residence early on Dec. 27, when he told authorities he was somewhere else, could be incorrect.

Fort Worth-based attorney Sidney Lyle told KTXS News on Wednesday that, in his own experience, phone records can show use in one area when the phone user was in a different location.

"Personally," Lyle said, "I've been in El Paso and had my phone records show I was in Mexico when I wasn't anywhere close to there."

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26543967/detail.html


Shawn Adkins - Damage Control

Shawn Adkins Interview on KTAB, February 7, 2011: Transcription

<snipped>

REPORTER: So also, according to the affidavits, you had originally said that when you quit your job, you went straight to Big Springs, but then there were cell phone actual pings in Colorado City.

SHAWN ADKINS: Well, that, the investigators asked me. They never asked which specific places I went. They go, “Where did you go Monday, when Hailey supposedly disappeared?”, and I told them I went to Big Spring, and that’s where I was at.

<snipped>

REPORTER: ... he affidavits show that stories have changed. I mean, what do you say about that? Has your story changed at all?

SHAWN ADKINS: If it has, it was because I remembered something, and then I let the investigators know, but that’s how they say my story has changed, then that’s how it changed, ’cause there’s been some things that I didn’t remember to tell them at the time, but later I did remember, and then I told them. That’s how my story could have changed, but no, my story hasn’t changed, other than that.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-shawn-adkins-interview-feb-7-transcription/


Billie Dunn - Damage Control

Billie Jean Dunn Blog Talk Radio Interview February 7, 2011: Partially transcribed

<snipped>

So around six o’clock Shawn got to work. He left right away. He had been thinking about quitting his job, and he left that day, left his coveralls there, cleaned out his locker.
 
He went over to his grandma’s house in Dunn, which is about ten miles coming back toward Colorado city. They didn’t answer, so he went over to Big Spring, to his mother’s house.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/billie-jean-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-february-7-transcription/

I read over and over again each and every doc, media interviews, looked at pics, etc - everything points to Shawn's involvement. I was skeptical to throw Billie in the mix with Shawn but nothing in my eyes can explain why she didn't call 911 from her job to have the cops meet her at her house...but...she can tell Clint to 'all to let the cops know she's on her way, but first she's going to her daughter's friends houses to see if she's there. Plus she's throwing everybody with legs under the bus - is that to draw attention away from their duo? Pffffft.

And she keeps coming to Shawn's defense. He's a big boy. Why can't he handle it himself and let Billie worry about being a decent mom to David? Obviously David needs her more than Shawn does. Matter of fact, Hailey needs her the most, if in fact she's still alive and waiting for her mom to find her. With the fact remaining that she hasn't searched for her, and she's her mother, it's making me wonder if she doesn't want her found. My gosh, even Ron Cummings couldn't be kept away from searching for his daughter, even though the police didn't "recommend" it.

So, could Billie be involved in this? Is Shawn the culprit..or Billie? Heck, what about if Hailey got hold of something thinking it was a cold tablet & took a couple then passed away overnight? They could have done something with her

What about Shawn's dad that supposedly works at the same place Shawn worked? Anything about him?

What about Walston and Pharris? Nothing?

What about if Hailey really was seen by the lady that cuts hair and police misconstrued what she said? If that's the case, then the media brought it all to the forefront by taking le's word for it and could have hindered the public's perception of it all. This is a very small town with absolutely no money at all. The police could have tried applying pressure to make Billie and/or Shawn crack, which happens all the time, but it didn't work and as a matter of fact it backfired bc they both walked out during interviews. This is a very normal police tactic, it just didn;t work. It doesn't explain the poly results, though... However, if Billie and Shawn are involved in the purchase and sale of said drugs, then they could possibly feel and believe that Hailey was taken because of that. If that's the case, they would fail the poly not bc they are guilty, but bc of what they believe, what they feel, it would make them nervous and the poly would peak at those answers. The Scurry County remark could be bc "illegal narcotics" were purchased there, so they thought in their minds that it could be somebody from Scurry County, therefore thinking Hailey could be found in Scurry County. The cell pings can definitely be explained exactly how Billie stated, although I don't believe that's what happened...still, though, it's certainly plausible.

Now, what about if everybody's drug use and/or sales have absolutely nothing to do with Hailey's disappearance? Heck, sure maybe they're not the best prime parents in the world, but still what if? Then maybe she really was abducted and everything else is just a coincidence, circumstantial. If that's the case, alot of time was spent in the wrong way and Hailey will be harder to locate.

Is that even possible? I mean, when we take into consideration the videos that we found, the pictures, the cases regarding true crime murders that Billie printed off at work, look at everybody's records, see all the marriages fighting and dysfunction, the 911 calls, pills, marijuana and who knows what else, Shawn conveniently quitting his job on the morning he says Hailey went missing, Hailey not liking Shawn, David saying he barely knows Shawn yet Shawn says he "loves" them, Billie still in love with and seeing Shawn, failed polygraphs, wrong description with the shoes, the changing of the stories, Hailey crying to her aunt, Hailey telling her gmom about Shawn lurking outside her door - etc - again, Is It Even Possible?

Shawn fits...but so does Billie. It is Billie that seems to use CPS and the cops and/or 911 to manipulate certain situations. In one of those 911 calls, Shawn specifically said Billie took some pills and was threatening suicide, that he was calling bc he was worried, and the 911 operator specifically said to Shawn "DO YOU KNOW THERE'S A WARRANT OUT ON YOU?" - well seems to me that Shawn put Billie before himself in that instance...and it's stuck in the back of my head now. What about if Billie's the manipulator & this Halloween crap with Shawn is just freaky stupid stuff that shows his immaturity and possible mental pathology? Maybe Billie is worse? Think about it - Shawn knew he had a warrant out but he put Billie first and called the cops bc he didn't want her to kill herself, he didn't care about the repurcussions with him. Then Billie states she wouldn't kill herself, etc. She seems to always get away with deflecting attention from herself, doesn't she?

Then again, what about if they are both innocent...and Hailey was kidnapped by a stranger?

I know it's unlikely, but it is still possible.

I thought I had some wackos in my familia, lemme say I'm proud now to have the family that I have.

Hi Monkey's,

 
 RITA JEAN  OSTRANDER  was born 1992-09-23 Texas Births, 1926-1995




http://www.familytreelegends.com/records/txbirths?c=search&first=rita+jean&last=ostrander&spelling=Exact&11_year=&11_month=0&11_day=0&4=&14=&SubmitSearch.x=20&SubmitSearch.y=9

http://www.familytreelegends.com/records

-snipped from Titches well thought out post

"Heck, what about if Hailey got hold of something thinking it was a cold tablet & took a couple then passed away overnight?"

What if ... what if ... Billie and Shawn stored their drugs in an ibuprophen bottle or some type of cold medicine bottle to conceal it? What if Hailey wasn't feeling well and helped herself to some of what she thought was a simple over the counter cure.  Is there anything out there, drug related that would take her life if she took two tablets?  In thinking about it, I wouldn't think there would be, she was a teenager, it's not like she was a baby but I am not sure if there is anything out there that would. 

anyone?

Titch, we've all struggled with having to keep an open mind but I see way too many coming back to the same conclusion including us.  I've agonized with the same ad nauseum & then it comes right back to Shawn & Billie no matter how plausible anything else is or despite the past of other parties involved.  One of my main questions has always been why didnt Billie call her daughter to see that she got to Mary Beth's as told to her by Shawn as opposed to just reporting after the fact that she was upset that Hailey didnt call her, I mean if she was upset that she didnt receive the call then right then and there that would lead any other mother to make the call right after the concern crossed their mind.  Even if they were concealing their illegal drug use, I could see Shawn lying to cover that but would a reasonable unconditional loving mother actually do that when worried what happened to her own flesh & blood, even for Billie Jean Dunn-Dumm I find that fact alone to be extremely hard to swallow.  Now, if their illegal drug use and/or alleged distribution contributed to negligence or manslaughter/murder then I could see them both covering that.  The fact that we are all aware that at times there were volatile situations transpiring in that home & disputes over Hailey not being comfortable with Shawn in that house only adds to the equation, tempers flaring & rages of jealousy which both also existed in that home could escalate to just about anything happening.  There is just too muckin fuch that comes right back to those two, just too muckin fuch.

Just about any drug can effect any person fatally when it wouldnt necessarily kill another...many factors could cause it depending on what solid food is in one's system, liquid intake, allergic reaction, age, lack of sleep, adverse effect to other medications taken within that same time period, dose amount, etc., etc.

I theorize that sometime prior to the rising of the sun on December 27th ... Shawn had sexually assaulted Hailey in her bed and ... then make sure that her voice was silenced in regards to that assault.

The return to the home following Billie Dunn's departure to work was to retrieve a deceased Hailey from her bed and ... dispose of her body.

IMO

Janet

+++++

NANA

NANCY GRACE
Hailey`s Grandmother Suspects Mother`s Boyfriend
Aired January 13, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET

<snipped>

GRACE: Ms. Jones -- Ms. Jones, your theory that the live-in boyfriend sexually attacked the little girl and that he killed her when she threatened to tell -- what do you base that on?

JONES: Because Hailey had told me (INAUDIBLE) him been living there in the past that he would walk around at nighttime, and the hall light would be on, and she could see his shadow at her door, at the foot of the door. She could see his legs at the foot of the door, just at her door, just standing there. And it scared her. And I don`t know, things just don`t add up that Monday. Why would he leave his job? He didn`t quit, he just left his job. ....

GRACE: What specifically would she say, Ms. Jones?

JONES: That she was afraid of him walking around at night. She said he -- she was just afraid of him. At this time, she was only, like, 11

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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/13/ng.01.html


Missing Texas Girl Hailey Dunn 'Scared' of Shawn Adkins
Grandmother Says Adkins Would Stand in Girl's Bedroom Doorway and Watch Her
Jan. 13, 2011

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Hailey told her grandmother that Adkins would pace around the house at night, talking on his cell phone in the bathroom and peering into her bedroom.

"She had told me on a couple of occasions that...he walked around at night and she said that she could see his shadow standing at her door. She said, 'Nana, he scared me. I'm afraid he's going to come in there,'" Jones said.

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/shawn-adkins-named-person-interst-case-missing-texas/story?id=12608537


AUNTIE

Hailey Dunn: Called Her Aunt Crying Days Before Disappearance
Posted: February 4, 2011

The last person who saw Hailey was Shawn Adkins, her mother’s boyfriend. He is a person of interest in the case and, as Theresa Gaddis, Hailey’s aunt, tells OK!, he has been quite a frightening figure in Hailey’s life. “A few days before she disappeared, Hailey called me crying,” explains Theresa. “She said, “I don’t want to go to my house; I’m not comfortable around my stepdad.” She hated Shawn.

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OK! magazine, February 14, 2011

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/02/04/hailey-dunn-phone-call-to-aunt-day-before-disappearance/

unfortunately I agree with you Janet ... but I am trying to think of other possibilities as well ... Im 99.9% sure that she did not leave that home alive on the 28th.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  No "confirmed" sightings on the 28th, no suspicious vehicles or people reported, no "crime scene", no screams heard, nothing .... people just don't go poof.

Cartfly, I'm not Janet, but I believe the S.O. stands for Sheriff's Office.

I agree a sexual assault could have occurred but not necessarily in her bed.  If it was in Hailey's bed, even if a condom was used other biological evidence of the assailant may be left behind such as salvia, hair, skin & we do not know for certain if the bed was tested via luminol, etc.   We also do not know for a fact if the sheets & blankets were changed to conceal evidence when they easily could have been.  I think we can be rather certain that if Shawn's DNA was in Hailey's bed he would have been detained, most likely charged because there is no reasonable excuse whatsoever for it to be in Hailey's bed otherwise.   If a sexual assault did indeed take place but not in Hailey's bed, his DNA could be explained away as being intimate with his girlfriend...for example, on the couch or in Billie's bed even, equally Hailey's DNA could be explained the same way in either of those two locations.   Therefore in this case scenario Hailey would have not only been the only witness but she would have held the only possible non-disposable evidence on her person explaining why she may have had to be silenced & discarded.

Although it seems improbably, the couch thing really bothers me.  I wonder WHY the couch was dumped, and why no one looked at it, when it was Hailey's "bed".  Then again, I don't think that even SA would be bold enough to have attacked her on the couch *with* BD there.

If its even plausible I would imagine it would have taken place when BD wasnt there.   It bothers me that several had placed Hailey sleeping on the couch for quite awhile but the evening she was last known to sleep in the house she was reportedly sleeping in her room in her own bed...it seems hinky to me.

To be honest with you, I don't think she was sleeping in her own bed.  Even BD said she was surprised NOT to see her on the couch.  Just in my own silly opinion, I don't think there was a Hailey in the bed when they looked - "new tv" or not.  That's just the feeling I get. 

Thank goodness.  I thought it stood for Sex Offender.  Is that what you thought cartfly?

Thanks for clarifying joesamas mama.

Janet

I dont think she was in her room either...the fact that Billie Jean Dunn-Dumm went out of her way to say she "saw" her but the room was dark but she didnt bother to go touch her or say good bye tells me she wasnt there or she was already gone permanently...sad to say but I fear she is no longer with us.

Hi starwynn.

Hubby's niece and American hubby have taken off over to my youngest son and wife's home for dinner and a couple game of pools.  There is family reunion tomorrow afternoon/evening in the Vancouver area.  I guess pool rates over a game of Scrabble with an Aunt and Uncle.

Anyways ... somehow I believe that the confines of the bedroom is where a sexual assault took place against Hailey.  I could be wrong.

Janet
4:50 PM PT

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NANCY GRACE
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET

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BILLIE DUNN: ... And she didn`t sleep in her room until about a week ago. She slept in the living room on the couch.

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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET

BILLIE DUNN: I saw her about 10:00 or 11:00 in her bedroom.

GRACE: Was she still playing games?

BILLIE DUNN: No, she was watching TV, laying in bed.

GRACE: Now, the next morning, you checked in on her before you left, and you believe you saw her lying in her bed, around 6:00 a.m., right?

BILLIE DUNN: Right.

http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html
 

starwynn

I do not have time to look for a link right now but ... I am sure that Billie stated that the reason Hailey slept on the couch rather than her room was because she fell asleep watching televisions.  However ... Hailey did acquired a TV for her room.  The images of her room did reveal a TV.

Janet

Found it!!

New TV

Billie Jean Dunn Blog Talk Radio Interview February 7, 2011: Partially transcribed

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At 6:20, I peeked in Hailey’s room. I’m used to seeing her asleep on the couch. She had gotten a new TV, so she had been sleeping in her room, so I didn’t see her on the couch. I was like, “Oh wait a minute. She’s in her room.”, so I peeked in there. She still had the TV on, and was asleep.

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http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/billie-jean-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-february-7-transcription/

Heck, it would even be possible that Shawn left work early that morning cuz he knew Hailey would be home alone b/c David was staying with a friend.  He could have taken her somewhere and did his dirt and left her there.  Maybe he came home and told her he would take her shopping to spend gift cards she may have gotten from Christmas or whatever.  Perhaps she might have gone willingly had he said that. Maybe she did text MB from that phone around 2 from another county, because she was there with Shawn, but between 2 and the time Shawn got home, he could have done something to adnd with her that's why he locked the door when he got back home.  He was cleaning himself up when David got home.

I tend to waffle on WHO is the most manipulative and sometimes, really most I lean toward Billie for many, many reasons. I know I am going to forget a few but here is a brief rambling summary:

1-I think Billie did use 911 on Feb 2010 and I don't think she was worried about David (that was an afterthought and was what she mentioned last), it was about SA coming in her home when she wasn't there, kind of a control issue and I'll show you........remember he was involved with that Andrea girl in February, the one that looks like a skeleton and defends him as much as Billie. So IMO she knew he wanted to go grab his belongings and it was more of  "hell no you are not", then she rattles on about how he might take her son's XBOX, TV etc, oh and yeah my son might be there, if I were truly worried about my son, I'd have left work to go home and make sure that David was staying someone else, locked my windows and doors. Then she calls to say he is threatening her and Clint in the next call, then SA calls about the possible overdose and although it could be him doint the tit fo tat, as Titch states if he was truly worried about it he did put Billie over himself so great point Titch, I never thought of that and if she knew and she had to about his affair with Andrea I can see her saying "I took all the klonopin in order to manipulate Shawn to come back to her...not that I believe she did, I think it was an effort to manipulate"

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2-When she decided that she was in a panic about Hailey being missing before checking with MB PERSONALLY or even MB's mother, and didn't call Shawn to make sure he had the not mixed up the friend name since IMO a BF wouldn't be as aware of her friends as a mother should be, well she asled Clint to call 911 which I think is a big red flag, IMO it shows distancing just as it did when she had DD text MB when she could have easily called herself and even then why did Hailey have to come home at noon when she wasn't due home until 7pm, I mean it is Christmas break and I would rather my child be at the home where there was someone else with her than home all alone for 7 more hours. Also, why not call 911 herself to tell them she was coming to file a report, she had a phone at the office and knew far more details than Clint would have, and obviously she had no problem callin 911 from work since she did it last yr wrt the t-shirt, I just think a missing child is far more important than a BF wanting to come get his shirt and other belongings.

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3-She stated on NG that she didn't find out the Hailey was staying with MB until after she and Shawn returned home from their drug run later that evening, yet in her latest PC she stated she knew at noon on Monday when Shawn called and she asked about the kids. Here is a link from WS since I would have to search for hours to look thru all of CZ's post:

January 3 - post by Billie's friend czgtz:

01-03-2011, 08:03 PM czgtz

I am on the phone with Billie right now:

When Billie got home from work Monday, her BF told her that he came home early and that Hailey had left shortly after that.
Last edited by czgtz; 01-03-2011 at 08:13 PM.

Shawn called me while I was at work that afternoon. I asked him about the kids. He told me that David wasn’t home yet, and that Hailey had left to go to Clint’s, and then was going to a friend’s to spend the night.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127444

FROM HER BTR INTERVIEW ANOTHER DIRECT CONTRADICTION


Around three o’clock, Shawn got to the house.

Just shortly after, he said within 15 minutes, Hailey was walking out the door. She told him she was stopping by her dad’s house, and then gonna go spend the night with a friend.



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4-She told NG on Jan 3rd that Shawn was at work when she had known since the Dec 29th that he "was fired" and she also knew this within 24 hrs of her reporting her missing so I don't buy the explanation that "it's what she had thought was truth for so long she just misstated accidentally.........BS, she knew the truth 500% longer than the lie, so why lie on the very first appearance on NG?

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5-She stated Shawn went straight to his mothers house and would NOT have gone thru CCity as it was shorter not to go thru Ccity, yet latere when the ping info is released he needed a reason to show his phone pinging from Ccity so voila, NOW he drove to him GMA's at 6am, but she wasn't home?? Then drove to his mother's home.

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6-She never asked about the blow up or argument at work, and from Shawn and Billie IIRC she didn't want him to quit so why wouldn't she ask WTF were you thinking Shawn, who did you get into an argument with, I know I'd have been pizzed and asked a million questions if I was telling someone don't you dare quit your job.

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7-Shawn fails his poly after refusing 2, and walks out when the questions are tough, and weeks later she still hasn't asked him why?

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8-this snip from NG:  GRACE: So, I mean, if he`s going to go somewhere, he`s got to use that vehicle and there it is parked right out front. And they told you he wasn`t home.

MIKKILINENI: Right. They told me he was not home. But police say that he`s almost always at home.

GRACE: I want to go back to Billie Dunn. Back to the question the caller presented earlier. Between 7:00 and 9:00 a.m.. Why? Why? Let`s see that ping record again, Liz. The map. Why would he go into work, Billie, take a look at his boss, 6:00 a.m., take a sip of soda and walk out? Then tell you he got fired or quit or some such story as that when the boss said that`s not what happened at all. He just turned around and walked out. Then his pings placed him back around your home between 6:30 and 7:00 a.m. Then between 7:00 and 9:00, nothing. Then the pings put him at his mother`s house around 9:00 up until 2:40 p.m.
What do you see in that scenario, Billie Dunn? What`s he doing back around your home?

DUNN: I don`t know. That`s all stuff I need a lot of answers to, that we all need a lot of answers to.
GRACE: Well, have you tried to ask him?

DUNN: No.

GRACE: Why?

DUNN: I haven`t spoke with him. He`ll send a text every now and then. But I haven`t asked him, why did you come back to the house? He never let me know that. I didn`t know that until the affidavits came out and showed his pings. That he had come back here first, then to Big Spring.

GRACE: Well, why haven`t you asked him?

DUNN: I haven`t spoke with him.

GRACE: Yes, I know that. My question is, why? I would want to know why. What were you doing back around my house?
DUNN: I want to know too.

GRACE: Well then why haven`t you asked him? Oh, because did the cops tell you not to talk to him?

DUNN: I`m not allowed -- no. When I call over there, they don`t let me talk to him. They won`t put him on the phone.

GRACE: What about a cell phone?

DUNN: He doesn`t have a cell phone.

GRACE: So when you call over there, what do they say?

GRACE: Well, text him.

OK......IF HE HAS NO CELL PHONE HOW IS HE TEXTING HER, SORRY I CALL BS ::MonkeyMad::

SO, when EXACTLY did she learn he was allegedly at his mother's house during that time as she stated in her *cough* timeline? ::MonkeyTongue::

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/18/ng.01.html


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9- Another snip from NG

GRACE: They`re in the middle of a divorce. It`s been going on three years now, but they`ve united in the search for their daughter tonight. Mr. Dunn, have you submitted to a polygraph?

CLINT: I told them that I would take one, too.

GRACE: I`m sorry. I couldn`t hear you. Repeat?

CLINT: I told the FBI yesterday that I would take one.

SO, IF CLINT WAS TALKING TO THE FBI THE DAY BEFORE WHICH WAS ALSO THE DAY BEFORE BILLIE TOOK HERS, I WOULD THINK THE FBI WOULD HAVE ADMINISTERED HERS AND NOT SOME RANDOM POLYGRAPHER FROM BS...COULD BE WRONG, I JUST NOW CAUGHT THAT RESPONSE FROM CLINT.
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10-Another from NG

BILLIE: She usually asked me first. And then would ask the other family. Sometimes she would ask them first. I thought, yes, they knew she had intentions of spending the night. They should have known.

HOW COULD THEY HAVE KNOWN IF THEY NEVER KNEW SHE HAD PLANNED TO SPEND THE NIGHT THERE???
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11-NG snip

GRACE: First thing I want to clear up, Ms. Dunn, I have in these documents that I`ve with me and I`ve read them very carefully, that you did, in fact, have a New Year`s Eve party at your home. That would have been within 72 hours of reporting Hailey missing.

BILLIE: Well, we did not. I know it wasn`t on my mind at all that it was even New Year`s Eve. I had an uncle and aunt, and they brought their grandbaby from out of town. They came up. They stayed at my house Friday during the day. They spent the night at my brother`s. They were back over here Saturday. I think they went home on Sunday. We had family over here. I`ve had a lot of fat of family here. But that weekend, an aunt, an uncle and their grandbaby and my two brothers came over

WASN'T ONE OF HER BROTHERS IN JAIL ON NYE? I REMEMBER SEEING THE INFO WHERE HE WAS RELEASED ON 1/1/11 SO HOW COULD HE BE AT HER HOME?
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12-GRACE: Did you know that your live-in walked out of two polygraphs?

BILLIE: They told me he couldn`t take the first one because he had taken the anxiety medication also.

GRACE: OK. What about the second one?

BILLIE: And the same thing with the one they set up — the same thing. We didn`t know it was set up for Monday. It was set up for Wednesday. I made sure he didn`t get near any of that

NOT ACCORDING TO THE AFFADAVITS, HE REFUSED THE FIRST TWO IIRC
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13-BILLIE: With Shawn getting the cell phone pings coming back to Colorado City that morning, I want to know who she talked to on the phone, it`s very important to me if she was on that phone and they`re not saying that anybody is an accountable witness it seems that has seen her on Monday. So I want to know who called my cell phone that morning and that afternoon, and who she called, and those are answers that I know they have, that they still haven`t gotten back with me on.

SHE STATED LATER ON AND CZ ALSO STATED THAT SHE WENT THRU THE TEXT AND SAW THE 2:16 TEXT TO MB, SO HOW WOULD SHE NOT ALREADY KNOW WHO SHE TALKED TO ON THE PHONE?

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14-GRACE: Now, tell me what happened when you got home from work, does Adkins come pick you up?

BILLIE: No, Tuesday when I got home, when I realized she didn`t spend the night at Mary Beth`s, I came straight home, my sister-in-law gave me a ride. And then Shawn met me here.

SHE DIDN'T EVEN THINK OF CALLING SHAWN SO HE COULDN'T HAVE JUST MET HER THERE AS THIS SOUNDS LIKE HER MET HER THERE AS SOON AS SHE WENT TO THE HOUSE BEFORE SHE WENT TO LE

FROM HER PC: I got home from the police station around three.

Shawn called me on my cell and talked to David who told him I was going, who told him what all was going on, so Shawn left and got to the house around 4 o’clock with me and David.

BILLIE SPEAK REQUIRES A MIND FOR BS AND A BOTTLE OF SOMETHING STRONGER THAN VODKA




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15-Tuesday morning on the 28th, Shawn and I both got up around 5:30. We left the house together around 6:20 to go to work. It’s not unusual for Shawn to take me to work. He always has to be there by seven. Sometimes he had to go in earlier, but he was always told the night before, and I would arrange to get another ride on those days

FROM HER PC......OK, THIS WAS JUST LAST WEEK AND SHE KNOWS DAMN WELL HE DIDN'T GO TO WORK THAT DAY, WHY NOT STATE "HE TOOK ME TO WORK AND THEN WENT TO HIS MOTHER'S HOUSE"??? ::MonkeyMad::

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16-My sister-in-law gave me a ride home from Snyder to Colorado City.

I stopped at the house first to make sure Hailey hadn’t come back home, grabbed my cell phone, started texting Hailey’s friends, while my sister-in-law took me around to a couple of their houses before going to the police station.

AGAIN FROM HER PC......WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU TEXT HER FRIENDS WHEN YOU ARE SO PANICKED, WOULDN'T YOU CALL THEM, ASK A TON OF QUESTIONS
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17-How long have you and Shawn been together as a couple?

Two and a half years.

WE KNOW THIS IS A LIE FROM THE MS PHOTOS THAT SHOW THEM TOGETHER IN JAN OF 08, AND SHE STATED SHE DIDN'T EVEN MEET HIM UNTIL AFTER A MONTH OF TALKING SO THAT AT THE LATEST WOULD HAVE BEEN DEC OF 07 AND MAYBE EVEN FURTHER

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THIS IS FROM HER BTR INTERVIEW

18-Caller Michael: My question is, how can you still correspond, and say that you’re in love with the law enforcement’s number one suspect, when he told you he would kill you and others in a way that he would always be remembered. How can you, in your heart, still even communicate with him?

I know him very well, and that was over a year ago, in the beginning of our relationship

 ::MonkeyDevil::

OK, IF YOU HAVE BEEN TOGETHER 3 YRS-HOW CAN YOU SAY A YR AGO WAS IN THE BEGINNING OF THE RELATIONSHIP?

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19-Caller Katrina asks about the couches.

Okay, the couches were taken out a couple of weeks ago, just because my brother got new furniture, and brought me his old furniture, which was in better shape than mine. We set them out in the front yard. Some guys that worked at the power plant, I don’t even know the people, but they came by and offered to take them to the dump, the local Colorado City dump

NOW, I KNOW THIS IS ANOTHER CONTRADICTION

FROM CZ WRT THE COUCHES
 
czgtz
Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 305

I would like to clear something up about the couches.

Billie's brother bought new couches, and gave her his old ones. Billie's old ones got stuck in the back of that broken down truck in her front yard for lack of anywhere else to put them. The couches sat there for 2 or 3 days, and then a woman came by and asked if she could have them. Billie said yes, and the woman had a couple of guys pick them up for her.

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20-Why haven’t you been out to Hailey’s bridge?

I have. I don’t stop out there. It’s very emotional for me. I’ve stopped out there probably once or twice

FROM HER BTR INTERVIEW......A CONTRADICTION IN UNDER A SECOND FLAT, EITHER YOU DONT STOP THER OR YOU HAVE, IT CAN NOT BE BOTH BILLIE



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And, just random crazy stmts that make me pause and think "WTF, did I hear that right?"

And Nancy, I wanted to get a message out to Hailey, if she is watching and she happens to get to a phone, to call 911. Because I do not have my cell phone.

GRACE: And what is your message? To call 911?

DUNN: Yes. Get out there, if you can get to a phone, run to a phone and call 911. Because I don`t have my cell phone with me. And I know she knows that number.

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BILLIE DUNN: Oh, all over, Nancy. There are some from Odessa, Amarillo, I mean, 100, 200 miles away, people are coming down here to find my daughter. People care from all over. I`m getting letters from all over the United States telling me people are praying for me.

it was just good for me to get out
  ::MonkeyMad::
WHAT ABOUT HAILEY, ARE THEY PRAYING FOR HER OR IS THIS ALL ABOUT ME ME ME ME BILLIE, AND WHAT ABOUT WHAT IS GOOD FOR HAILEY?
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BILLIE DUNN: I`m still looking for a living, breathing Hailey.  SHADES OF CINDY ANTHONY IMO
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The important thing people need to remember is not slandering me,” said Dunn.
CBS News, January 13, 2011 REALLY, THAT IS WHAT YOU CONSIDER IMPORTANT ???? ::MonkeyNoNo::
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We asked Billie what was the lowest point for her over this past month. Her response: when the investigation turned to her former boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, the only suspect named in the case of her missing daughter.

ANOTHER WTF MOMENT IMO, TO ME FINDING OUT MY CHILD IS MISSING WOULD BE THE LOWEST OF THE LOW
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On top of Hailey missing have people saying horrible things and making horrible accusations and after I get Hailey home I’ll deal with the slander and the defamation of character. I definitely will“.  ::MonkeyTongue::
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Host: “Are there problems between Hailey and Shawn?“

Billie: “Not anymore.“  THAT WAS A DOUBLE SHOT TEQUILA MOMENT FOR ME......... ::MonkeyShocked::

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Every day that they don’t find something is good for me. NO CHIT, HOW GOOD IS IT FOR HAILEY?/

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Wrt Shawn coming home after learning abou Hailey missing:

He came straight home. He had been pretty upset, he appeared shaken to me also and started being supportive to me.

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 BILLIE: Well, I wanted to come on to clear some of that up. I don`t want to be perceived as a bad person even by people who don`t know me. But the main reason I am here, I don`t want people to get away from the fact that the whole reason we are here and we are talking to media is because my 13-year-old daughter isn`t in my house. Somebody knows where she is.

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I shouldn`t have to be defending my self.

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 I didn`t worry about her being a bad kid

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 I`ve done a wonderful job with my kids.  ::MonkeyTongue::

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BILLIE: We all watched horror movies. Like I said before, we have mostly comedies in this house. But comedies can`t be looked down upon.

GRACE: Comedies can`t be what?

BILLIE: Looked down upon.

GRACE: I`m not talking about the comedies, I`m happy about the comedies.

BILLIE: I know.


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There are some people who are going around demanding or begging for money. I am disgusted that these individuals who never held down jobs are exploiting Hailey to get a handout. I’ve always worked and supported my kids by myself, and I will return to work as soon as I am able.

I do not want a handout, and if anyone asks for money on my behalf, please know the request isn’t coming from me, and I’m not getting money. ::MonkeyShovel::

OK WHAT ABOUT THE VAN, THE GRANT AND NUMEROUS DONATIONS YOU ARE USING TO PAY YOUR BILLS WITH....I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT IT WOULD BE INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TO RETURN TO WORK THIS QUICKLY BUT WHY LIE ABOUT GETTING DONATIONS AND MONEY WHEN THERE IS A PAPER TRAIL PROVING SHE INDEED IS GETTING MONEY???

AGAIN FROM HER BTR INTERVIEW

Are you and Clint, with the donations that are coming in, are you offering any money to the searchers for their gas or for anything like that to help them out for being how they’re putting it out of their own pockets?

No, some of the money I got I put on my bills, but I would, I will gladly offer that up right now. I’ll give anything that I can, and certainly after I get back to work, I’d certainly will.

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FROM HER BTR INTERVIEW :

When she was a baby, I was fortunate enough that I was able to stay home with her, until she was probably three or four. That’s when I had to start working, but before then, I got to spend all day long with her.  ::MonkeyTongue::

ALSO SHE LIVES IN THE HOUSE THAT CLINT INHERITED SO NO RENT FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD, THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS HELP IMO. FRANKLY IF I WERE CLINT I'D KICK HER OUT AND MOVE MY FAMILY IN SINCE SHE HAS NO KIDS STAYING WITH HER, HAILEY IS GONE AND DAVID WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM HER.
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I do hope this will lay to rest the confusion and speculation surrounding Hailey’s disappearance, on my part anyway. I do not want to have to defend myself or anyone else.

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She was a very clumsy little girl

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When she got up to teenager, we had our little issues with her hormones

PAST TENSE WRT TO "HAD" AND THE HORMONE ISSUE AND SHE HAS STATED THIS NUMEROUS TIMES AS HORMONE AND A LITTLE ATTITIDE REMIND ME OF ADAM BAKER

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Yeah, we do talk on the phone. I guess we’re together.  ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: We still try to be there for each other. We really, we need to lean on each other. I have good friends and family support, and he’s got really good family support, but it’s nice to be able to talk to each other, and answer questions for each other also, and he’s not living with me, just because of all the mess that’s going on right now.

so I’m gonna do my best to be there for him as much as I can, and as soon as I can get Hailey back, he can come back home too, but he’s staying gone just because people can be pretty mean.

POOR HAILEY-IF SHE WAS ALIVE AND HIDING, THIS WOULD BE LIKE A SLAP IN THE FACE IMO

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I was prescribed some Ativan, and they’re similar. I don’t take it anymore, but right after Hailey left, I was prescribed some and I took it.

SO SHE JUST LEFT?? ODD VERBAGE IMO

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Caller Roy: Tell us some questions that were asked by the examiner.

OK, just related to Hailey, they asked other questions, related to Hailey, they asked if I did anything to cause her disappearance, or if I was, I think, if I knew anything of her disappearance that I was holding back.


They didn’t tell me, just that it showed I was being deceptive. They explained to me this one line that I could see on there, there were several lines. There was one line that went up to the number 10. That’s, I guess, the highest it goes. When I purposely told a lie, they showed me it went up there so that I would understand it. It hit up to about number 4 or 5 each time a question was asked regarding Hailey, so I guess that shows some deception. I’m not sure. I don’t understand the polygraphs at all, but that’s what I was told.

SO, THE ONLY DECEPTION SHOWN ON THE LDT WERE QUESTION WRT TO HAILEY.....SO I AM EXTRAPOLATING FROM THAT THE NON-HAILEY RELATED QUESTIONS SHE SHOWED NO DECEPTION ON? HOW SHOCKING.....NOT ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

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Why weren’t you at the balloon release the other day?
They did let me know about it, probably a week ago or longer. They told me they were gonna do it. I was hoping I would get a call to remind me, or let me know exactly what day and time. I would’ve loved to have been there. It’s nobody’s responsibility to personally contact me, but I definitely would’ve liked to have been there.

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If you left on your own, and there’s a problem, I’ll, we can fix anything in the world. I want you home.

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She’s my daughter. I want her back in my house.

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Oh, she was such a funny baby, very outspoken

HOW CAN A BABY BE OUTSPOKEN???

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Sorry this is so disjointed and long, but it took me a coupe of hrs to put together and isn't even complete, but the inconsistencies aka lies and the snippets above lead me to believe that Billie is in full blown defense mode of SA, and tossing others or thrying to under the bus like MB, MB's mother, Clint and Naomi and now her own version of cousin Joe, so I have to consider she was involved in either the disappearance or the coverup after the fact........

I kooked agian at Billie's printed timeline.
Dec 26, she goes to bed at 10pm. ( No mention of SA )
5:30 am Shawn is leaving for work.
His cell starting pinging in CC at 6:35 and stops at just before 7.
Who is he talking to ? Did Billie take the cell so she could communicate ( argue ) with Shawn on her way to work ?
......
I think he stayed up all night drugging or whatever and he left the house before she ( Billie ) was even up. She had to call her ride at 6:20.
Think she and Shawn were having a fight the night before , he huffed out of the house and then quit his job and comes back to the house to take care of the problem, which seems to be Hailey.
Not that Hailey was a problem, but she was getting in the way of Shawn's life with Billie.
Hailey wanted to live with Clint, Billie would lose out on support from the State if that happened.Think Hailey was in the middle of a tug of war. I really don't think Bille gave a crap about her, but there is other things like having to pay Clint child support, perhaps, losing any family assistance etc. 

According to the affidavit Shawn's cell phone only pinged off the tower in Colorado City for twenty minutes.

According to the affidavit ... no personal items belonging to Hailey was missing ... not even her jacket or ... her shoes.

Somehow I do not believe that a live Hailey left that home.  I suspect that Shawn make a trip back home following Billie's departure to work ... quckly retrieved a deceased Hailey from her bed ....

I could be wrong.

Janet

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Efforts continue to find Hailey Dunn
Posted January 5, 2011 - 10:43am

“She didn’t take any shoes or boots,” Dunn said. Originally, she thought Hailey was wearing tennis shoes but discovered them in her daughter’s room. “It was cold and she was wearing flip flops. It’s what scares me the most.”

http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/2011/01/efforts-continue-find-hailey-dunn


Hailey Dunn affidavit highlights: Inconsistencies, strange ‘hobbies'
By Brian Bethel
Abilene Reporter-News
Posted January 12, 2011 at 10:30 p.m.

<snipped>

Nothing was noted to be missing from Hailey Dunn's room, including an MP3 player, toothbrush, contact solution, jacket and other personal items that those who knew her said she would not have left home without.

<snipped>

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/12/inconsistenciesstrange-145hobbies/


Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's DisappearanceBy Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 2:17 pm CST January 12, 2011

<snipped>

Law enforcement officials detailed what Hailey left behind at her home: cash, a toothbrush, hairbrush, contact solution, a new MP3 player – and a jacket that friends say she would not have left home without.

The weather was cold outside, but Adkins said he last saw Hailey leaving without the jacket and the personal items.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


Hailey Dunn - Person of Interest Named
January 12th, 2011 9:59 pm CT

<snipped>

Billboards and fliers throughout west Texas describe the missing cheerleader as 5 feet tall, 120 pounds, with long brown hair and hazel eyes. She was last seen wearing navy blue sweatpants, a light-colored short-sleeved T-shirt, pink and white tennis shoes or flip flops and red hoop earrings.

<snipped>

http://www.examiner.com/true-crime-in-midlandodessa/hailey-dunn-person-of-interest-named?render=print

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The TV reasoning always made sense to me--excited to finally get her own TV so she started watching in the privacy of her own room and falling asleep in her own bed.  But now I'm wondering... The transcript snippet below said she'd slept on the couch until "about a week ago"--but she would have just gotten the TV for Christmas. And since she'd stayed Christmas night at Clint's, the 26th would have been the first night you'd think she would have had the TV, unless she got it early.

Did she get it earlier? Or did she end up moving to her room for another reason? Because I would think that wherever you had been attacked, you wouldn't exactly be eager to spend time in that location again. 


If she'd been sleeping in her own bed for about a week, why would she have been surprised?

I could have sworn, but it's not in the transcript linked below, that Nancy asked several times about the last time she saw Hailey and at one point Billie kind of backpedaled--saying yes, she did look in on her that morning and it looked like she was there but she admitted it's possible she may not have been because she was all covered up. (ie didn't specifically see her face, so someone could have just made it look like she was)

I remember because I felt that was kind of a covering your butt statement should it ever come out Hailey wasn't.

Oops, transcript link was in a post above and I see by the time I posted my comment it was several above. So this is the one I was referring to when I said I didn't see it in the transcript: http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html

Considering none of Hailey's belongings were missing ... not even her jacket or shoes ... I do not believe that Billie Dunn was involved in the happenings in regards to what happen to her daughter as well as ... the initial coverup.  Think about it.  It appears that Shawn returned home after Billie left for work ... quickly retrieved a deceased Hailey from her bed and ... at some point throughout that day disposed of her body.

I suspect that once the realization set in that Shawn was involved ... out of a warped sense of "love" Billie began distancing Shawn by focusing suspicion elsewhere as well as manipulating the timeline/chain of events.

IMO

Janet

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Efforts continue to find Hailey Dunn
Posted January 5, 2011 - 10:43am

“She didn’t take any shoes or boots,” Dunn said. Originally, she thought Hailey was wearing tennis shoes but discovered them in her daughter’s room. “It was cold and she was wearing flip flops. It’s what scares me the most.”

http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/2011/01/efforts-continue-find-hailey-dunn

I just got the sense from Billie that she was covering for what she actually saw by stating that Hailey was in her bed but it was dark & she didnt go over to touch her...sounded to me that she was placing Hailey there alive when in fact Hailey was already dead...I know its difficult to read but Im afraid Hailey is no longer alive although I do hold out hope.  Couch or no couch, TV or no TV this fact is what has me convinced Billie is lying.   Billlie either knows exactly what happened to Hailey or she refuses to face Shawn did something & her love is blinding her even more than her stupidity, if that's even possible.

snipped from Janets above post

Efforts continue to find Hailey Dunn
Posted January 5, 2011 - 10:43am

“She didn’t take any shoes or boots,” Dunn said. Originally, she thought Hailey was wearing tennis shoes but discovered them in her daughter’s room. “It was cold and she was wearing flip flops. It’s what scares me the most.”
http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/2011/01/efforts-continue-find-hailey-dunn


1.  If she was sleeping in bed the last time you saw her, how do you know she was wearing flip flops?

2.  What she is wearing on her feet scares you the most?  Not that she may be dead? raped? beaten? but that she is wearing flip flops?   

yyyyeeeaaaahhhh ok Billie ... Now where's Hailey?????

Truth be told, I cant put that much weight into Hailey's belongings being left in her room as an indication that Shawn and/or Billie were not involved.  The plan could have easily been to deflect attention to it having to be a stranger that abducted her which would explain why all her belongings were still at the home.   If either or both did commit a crime unless there was evidence on any of Hailey's belongings, there is no reason to remove it from the home.

I do not believe that Billie has ever implied that the TV was received as a Christmas present.  My impression is that Hailey acquired a TV of her own a week prior to Christmas and that is when she began sleep in her own room.

IMO

Janet

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NANCY GRACE
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET

<snipped>

BILLIE DUNN: ... And she didn`t sleep in her room until about a week ago. She slept in the living room on the couch.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html

EXACTLY...she is adding things in for effect, I think the plan all along was to make sure they were not suspected.   The last time Billie reportedly saw her was that morning when she claims she was in her bed....she would have been barefoot or at best with socks on, no shoes or friggin flip flops.    Blatant lie right there, and there are many.

There is no doubt in my mind that Shawn Adkins is involved in the demise and disappearance of of Hailey Dunn.  I contend that Shawn did not consider the details ... details such as jacket and shoes when he disposed of Hailey's body.

However ... if Billie was involved in the cover-up ... I believe that at the very least a jacket and tennis shoes would have been missing to support the sleep-over alibi.  The weather was VERY cold.  A short sleeved T shirt and flip-flops would not have sufficed.

Janet

Excellent post IM...ya know Shawn said in his interview the other day that he did not speak to anyone at work the day he claims he quit (how did he turn in his equipment then?) but lied to Billie that he got fired.   Huge contradiction in their story there.

I think Billie is used to being manipulative but she's way far from bright.   I think she uses men like some of the other women in her family, for a meal ticket.   I also think she resents that she was a teen mom & has been acting out because she wants to get back what she voluntarily gave up doing the deed & then not learning from that either.  As soon as Shawn came into the picture after she met him online, goodbye Clint as he served his purpose & she moved on to the next guy, she should have had a hint that he was a psycho but in addition to all her poor judgment she's got the brain & heart of a rock!   She's lying, no doubt about it...to what extent the reasons is remains to be discovered but it will & the only one getting fooled by that is herself.

Islandgirl, a couple of the things you pointed out jumped out at me....

"DUNN: He doesn`t have a cell phone."

Oh really? So the one the police took and he deleted the calls from was make-believe?

" I want to know who she talked to on the phone, it`s very important to me if she was on that phone and they`re not saying that anybody is an accountable witness it seems that has seen her on Monday..."

You're dead on there. She would have seen exactly who Hailey talked to on her cell phone when she saw the 2:16 text. And funny how she dismisses these witnesses here but trots them all out in her timeline and has mentioned the witness who allegedly saw her, MB and an unknown boy several times recently.

"BILLIE: No, Tuesday when I got home, when I realized she didn`t spend the night at Mary Beth`s, I came straight home, my sister-in-law gave me a ride. And then Shawn met me here."

Funny, because in other interviews she said she didn't talk to Shawn until he got home from work that night--which was after her visit to the police station and their visit to her house.

"When Billie got home from work Monday, her BF told her that he came home early and that Hailey had left shortly after that.
Last edited by czgtz; 01-03-2011 at 08:13 PM"

This is what she also said in her early NG interviews because I remember thinking it was kind of odd he hadn't told her before he picked her up that day. Maybe the switch could be trying to cover for at least one of the calls to her that Shawn tried deleting from that day?

IMO, Shawn was so obsessed with the Michael Myers' movies that I would see if there were any locations that mimic where that Jason  character disposed of a body.

YVW, Janet, I thought the same, then I read another name and DPS was listed. That's when I figured it didn't mean sex offender. Have a good night with your guests.

WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!!  There is no "Hailey was last seen wearing" on her AMW poster .... Has there been any physical description of what she was wearing?  None that I have seen ... surely Shawn should know ... HE WAS THE LAST ONE TO SEE HER ... But yet Billie knows she was wearing flip flops???   WHERE IS HAILEY BILLIE AND SHAWN????

(http://i55.tinypic.com/3168ztx.jpg)
http://www.amw.com/missing_children/brief.cfm?id=76136

Why should she concern herself with that, the rest of the world would have no way of knowing what Hailey's wardrobe consisted of so they would have no way of knowing what was actually missing or not.   Even kids with a relatively low income can have several pairs of shoes & a few jackets, whose to know otherwise?

Ive had a few occasions when children showed up to my house & ended up sleeping over with no change of clothes or pj's, my daughter had plenty despite my single mother status for much of their school years & always ended up letting them borrow her stuff as I washed what was on their backs that night so they could return her stuff to her before they left.   Those occasions were rare because sleepovers were planned in advance with parental consent to me personally & they brought an overnight bag.  Something else that was regularly done by me, if I was not sure a parent knew their child was at my house I called them even if it was just to stay for dinner much less sleep over & trust me I had dozens over the years, shoot I was called mom by so many I practically forgot what my actual name was, lol.   If my children made plans to go to someone else's house I always talked to a parent before they even left the door...NEVER EVER has either of my children been at someone else's home without asking me personally & if anyone had ever told me one of them said they were going somewhere (which never happened) I would have called that home or showed up at that door the minute I was told that, not the dang next day!     I dont give Billie that much credit to think that far in advance or care, no her focus was on getting high & screwing her psycho boyfriend.

No "last seen wearing" ...

(http://i51.tinypic.com/2w4zazr.jpg)

AMW Case
Hailey Darlene Dunn

<snipped>

Police say Hailey Darlene Dunn is a student and cheerleader at Colorado City Middle School. They say the 13-year-old girl was last seen wearing navy blue sweatpants, a short-sleeved light-colored T-shirt, flip flops and red hoop earrings. They say Hailey’s upper left ear is also pierced, and she stands at 5 feet 1 inch tall and weighs around 120 pounds. She has hazel eyes and light brown hair with blond highlights.

<snipped>

http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=76136

oookkk  ... nevermind  ... found one ... BUT ... she was last seen wearing PINK AND WHITE TENNIS SHOES ....

OK BILLIE AND SHAWN ... WHERE IS HAILEY?????

(http://i53.tinypic.com/2m4d1g0.jpg)

NOPE, and Shawn should have been able to provide that information, at least in part.  Even a guy would have had some recall as to what she was wearing.   Id like to know just how much LE pressed him on this issue because it doesnt seem evidenced by the bulletins.

but yet its flip flops...why am I not shocked

WOW.....I totally missed this little nugget, I wonder WTH she was living??? ::MonkeyTongue::

TT (5:04) Now in the 911 call, one of them that was released, Billie said that you were going to go to her house and that she wanted an officer there because she didn't trust you to be in her house when Dxxxx was there, so if she's not trusting, there has to be a reason. Why wouldn't she want you there when she's not there?
SA (5:19) Dxxxx wasn't there. She didn't want me going over there to get my stuff without her there. I was just wanting to pick up some of my belongings , so that's why she didn't want me over there. She was afraid I would take something that I wasn't supposed to. So...
TT ( 5:38) What else can you tell me about those 911 calls? You said that Billie was gonna kill herself, tell me just a little more about those.
SA (5:44) Yeah, Billie and I were having problems. That was that same day I do believe and we were just having problems and , you know, I just felt like Billie was gonna harm herself. And I just felt obligated to call the police and let them know. Maybe do a welfare check cuz I was worried about her.
TT (6:06) Is that a common thing in the house?
SA (6:08) No. That was jut the worst of the worst right there. Billie, uh,she wasn't living at her house at the time. You know, we were just going through a lot of hardships.


from the interview on KTAB

no link as I snatched it ::MonkeyWink::

Another thing, I dont know about the rest of the ladies here but if my husband, much less boyfriend told me daughter was going to a particular friend's house for a sleepover & go to find out that plan had never been made...that man might as well bend over and kiss his @$$ goodbye because I would have wigged & then proceeded to throw him to the curb!

Made it bigger ... Look at the date ... December 27, 2010  ???????

(http://i51.tinypic.com/2ql69ar.jpg)

Even this is a contradiction

(http://i53.tinypic.com/2m4d1g0.jpg)

Also how do you quit when you don't even speak to one person? They are so full of contradictions that it is really easier to find anything that hasn't been contradicted at this point.

I agree about the resentment issue and posted that wayyyy back, I think she feels like she lost her youth and all the fun, party yrs so she was d@mn well going to make it up whether or not her daughter was terrified, remember she tols her " you don't have to like him, but you have to respect him".......no wonder she wanted to live with her dad or anyone else.

Good catch, but who made it?  She was reported missing 12/28 so are they using the day she reportedly went to MB's instead of when she was reported missing?

If Billie had been involved in the actual coverup ... I do not think she would have revealed to authorities that she found the tennis shoes.  Consider the weather ... without shoes or jacket ... the implication is that Hailey did not leave that home alive.

IMO

Janet

+++++


Tennis Shoes

Efforts continue to find Hailey Dunn
Posted January 5, 2011 - 10:43am

“She didn’t take any shoes or boots,” Dunn said. Originally, she thought Hailey was wearing tennis shoes but discovered them in her daughter’s room. “It was cold and she was wearing flip flops. It’s what scares me the most.”

http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/2011/01/efforts-continue-find-hailey-dunn

Aint that the truth!

Crazy isn't it, Billie is pretty sure of what she was wearing yet she wasn't even sure she saw her Monday morning when pressed she told NG that the last CERTAIN time she saw her was Sunday night so how on earth could she know WTH she was wearing? Also CZ her bestest friend posted about the flip - flops and no jacket and wasn't that concerned because according to her it was unseasonably warm........yet that scared Billie more than anything was that it was cold and she had flip flops and no jacket.

I don't know but as far as I'm concerned they wouldn't know WHEN she went missing unless they disappeared her becaused they never called to check on her.

Even if this was an early report ... due to Billie saying she was wearing sneakers ... who gave that inital description?  Shawn? or did he say he didn't know what she was wearing he didn't pay attention?  So Billie assumed she was wearing pink and white sneakers when she gave a MISSING CHILDS REPORT?  Her daugher is missing and she GUESSED what she was wearing?  uuummm no ... I don't think so ...  Navy (specific) Sweat Pants and a light colored (what color?) t-shirt ... sounds more like something a teenager would sleep in ... huh?

-snipped from Janet's post

"If Billie had been involved in the actual coverup ... I do not think she would have revealed to authorities that she found the tennis shoes.  Consider the weather ... without shoes or jacket ... the implication is that Hailey did not leave that home alive."

Unless the cops were at her house searching when she "found" the pink and white tennis shoes ....

I just talked to my daughter regarding this flip flop issue.

Apparently my almost 10 year old granddaughter has accumulated a few pairs of flip-flops.  My daughter claimed if Miss Muffet was missing and her sneakers were at home ... it could be assumed that she had been wearing a pair of flip flops.

I contend that it was a bare-footed deceased Hailey that was taken from the home by Shawn on the morning of December 27th ... she was taken in the clothes she went to bed in ... blue sweatpants and a short sleeve T-shirt.

IMO

Janet

Probably

What's wrong with the date of December 27, 2010?  From the very beginning, December 27, 2010 was the date listed as Hailey being last seen.  I went back to the first thread in the archives and started reading. There are a number of articles listing that as the last time she was seen.  Of course, maybe that could/would change if there were better information at a later date.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9231.msg1283977#msg1283977
   
Hailey Dunn 13 missing from Colorado City, Texas #1 1/03/11 - 1/12/11  Thread #1

BBM~That is exactly what I was thinking in my last post, I wondered what did she sleep in and that is where I would start....I don't think she ever got up and got dressed Monday morning and that does sound like something a teen would sleep in, especially if they were leery of someone in the home assaulting them. True story my friend's daughter was date raped in her bedroom when she was 16, it traumatized her so much she not only wore layers and layers of clothes when she went out (for instance 3 pairs of socks, a t-shirt, turtleneck, pullover and hoodie) and she slept in jogging pants and never slept in her room ever again, she slept in either her sister's room or her parents.....even at 19 yrs of age, so that is something that made me think those items were possibly what she wore to sleep ::MonkeyNoNo::

Considering Billie reported that she found the tennis shoes ... could it be that she then ASSUMED that Hailey must have been wearing a pair of flip flops?  Think about it ... the flip flops were not described.

I sincerely believe that at this point in time it had not occurred to Billie that Shawn may be involved in the disappearance of her daughter.   Maybe it was the failed polygraph as well as the affidavits that created doubts regarding Shawn's account and ... this is when ... out of a warped sense of "love" ... Billie began to distance Shawn from implication by by focusing suspicion in other directions and attempting to manipulate the timeline/chain of events.

Janet
 

At the end of the last thread I posted something which may have been overlooked:


Even CD thinks that BD and SA are hiding something.

Eldest son, DIL and 4 year old grandson just arrived from the Island.  I am somewhat  disappointed that the little guy is sleeping but ...considering tomorrow night when Mommy and Daddy take the ferry back home and ... he will staying behind for a mini vacation with Mama and Papa ... its OK.

Maybe tomorrow will be the day when Shawn Adkins will be arrested in connection with the disappearance of Hailey Dunn.  Maybe tomorrow will be the day when Billing Dunn will be arrested for obstructing the justice process for her precious daughter.

Good Night All.

Janet

That excuse makes her even more deplorable certainly not pitiful...to forsake your own child to protect a monster, my God that isnt naive its cold!  She is 33 years old, not 12.   Even at the lowest level of intelluct and/or maturity that is no excuse for her behavior...for that alone she's going to H.   If she is lying for Shawn & helping him cover a crime she is an accessory even if only an accessory after the fact.  If it comes out that she concealed or tampered with evidence she is obstructing justice.    Personally, I sympathize with her over  nothing.

Well, and if you think about it, she usually doesn't sleep in bed - she usually sleeps on the couch, in the den, where anyone (read as "SA") easily could see her before she could get "decent".

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Something must have been revealed that I missed in the past four days.

Janet
8:15 PM PT

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Clint Dunn

Adkins "Needs to Help Find Hailey" Father Says
Tuesday, February 08 2011

<snipped>

As the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance ends his silence, Hailey's father has something to say about Shawn Adkins.

"Instead of spending money on a lawyer he needs to spend money on trying to find Hailey," said Clint Dunn.

Adkins, Hailey's mother's once live-in boyfriend told KTAB in an exclusive interview that he maintains his innocence, and Clint says although he believes Adkins is sincere.

"He needs to help find Hailey," said Clint, "so he can get the heat off of him."

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339996

Janet, my opinion isnt directed at you on this but that excuse makes her even more deplorable certainly not pitiful...to forsake your own child to protect a monster, my God that isnt naive its cold!  She is 33 years old, not 12.   Even at the lowest level of intelluct and/or maturity that is no excuse for her behavior...for that alone she's going to H.   If she is lying for Shawn & helping him cover a crime she is an accessory even if only an accessory after the fact.  If it comes out that she concealed or tampered with evidence she is obstructing justice.    Personally, I sympathize with her over  nothing.

Have a lovely time with your family!

Which is one of the reasons we luv ya!   :D

I agree on a number of your points you've made recently, particularly the point about calling the OTHER kid's parents!  I don't have kids, but I cannot in a million years imagine not calling their parents to just make sure it's ok.  If I don't know their number, I'd have them call on my phone (so I'd have the number from that point on) and I would insist on talking to them.

Then again, Hailey and David apparently had run of the neighborhood if you believe scuttlebutt.

Excuse the double post...the site went down mid post & I wasnt done but didnt realize it posted it incomplete (I didnt hit post)

Some people do not believe in miracles but ... the forum has just been privy to one.  Cap and Tamikosmom are in agreement.

Thanks Caps.

 ::MonkeyAngel::

Janet

Let me clarify - I would never in a million years imagine not calling the parents *of the kids who were going to spend the night with my  hypothetical kid*, etcetera.  :)

Awwws, and absolutely!   Love you too!

Awws and  ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Oh heck ... I meant the time ... and put the date ... Look at the time last seen... 1:00 pm. .... Shawn claims he last saw her at 3:15ish .... On this flyer ... she was last seen at 1:00 pm and wearing pink and white tennis shoes.  Sorry, I had so much going on in my head and cutting and pasting a tinypic'ing I thought it was the date ... but I meant the time.

Hey Billie and Shawn ... WHERE IS HAILEY?

Oh yeah, that bring in another inconsistency......Billie reported she was last seen at 1 pm because she thought Shawn was home at lunch or some BS like that, I'll have to go back and find the post from her friend CZ - but again it goes to my main point of why not call the last known person to have seen your child when you are going to file a MP repost, seems like they would have more details than you would (well, unless you are trying to help him distance himself)? ::piggy::

I hadn't yet seen this article:
http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26848324/detail.html

Excerpt: 
COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Nearly seven weeks after the disappearance of 13 year old Hailey Dunn, her father Clint Dunn is frustrated with police as he continues to search for his daughter.

"I haven't talked to them in three weeks, I don't know what their doing." said Dunn Saturday.

Has anyone heard why Shawns grandmother was not home at 6:10 am or if in fact she was not at home at that time?  Did she work and leave before then?  If so, why wouldn't he already know she wouldn't be home?  OR .. Did he know for a fact that she wouldn't be there and Hailey may be found somewhere near that area?

Yeah, it was just recently posted on FB ...  http://www.facebook.com/#!/find.hailey.dunn

This is the worst thing I have EVER seen.  Ever.  I caught this reference on seamusoriley's website, so I had to check it out for myself.  Sure enough, there are lyrics on SA's myspace (adkinsshawn) that just horrify me and say it all about why he is and should be the number one subject.  These are song lyrics from Slipknot - he did NOT write this, but he DID choose this as a representation of himself.  I cannot write them here.

Warning - so terribly graphic and upsetting, do NOT go to his site if you don't want to read something that will make you just sick.

Source: http://www.myspace.com/adkinsshawn

The lyrics are on the right hand side of the page, about 1/3rd of the way down.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::  why why why do people put crap like this online for the world to see ... you would think with all this stuff going on, he would have deleted everything he could ... but nope ... not him ...  sicko   ::MonkeyNoNo::

That's ok .. check out his comments ... shows ya what he really thinks about women (in general)   ::MonkeyEek::

I'm thinking that drugs of some type played a role in Haileys death (if indeed she is dead).  I believe that quite possibly Shawn gave them to her to sedate her so he could do his nasty and gave her too much and she overdosed .... maybe Shawn made sure Billie had some too and was "knocked out" so she wouldn't be aware of what was happening.  Shawn realized that he gave Hailey way too much and couldn't revive her.  He tells Billie the next morning that he found Hailey dead in the morning and she had narc's beside her, so she must have found them after Billie and Shawn went to bed and took them and overdosed.  Then both of them went into cover up mode as to keep their own arses out of trouble for having the narcs in the house.  I think this is why Shawn said "Hailey was into drugs and was boy crazy" ... in case they found the body and she tested positive for drugs.  Him and Billie were questioned seperately and didn't corroborate this story before hand.  So when Billie was questioned as to why Shawn would say that, her response was .. "I don't know why he would say that."  And Billies response to LE was I purchased narcs b/c I had a bad tooth.  Same reason to cover up ... two different excuses for Hailey having drugs in her system.

Sooo IF that is what happened ... Shawn must think that Haileys body is recoverable.  Hidden in plain sight?

From the same link:

Billie has also told KTXS she now "talks regularly" with the only named suspect in the case, Shawn Adkins.

Clint told KTXS how he felt about that "I don't like it, I really can't say much about it but I don't like it."

As for the search for Hailey Dunn nears the two month mark, father Clint remains hopeful and thankful so many people have stopped their lives to search for Hailey, "I'm very happy. I'm glad that there trying to help and it's amazing that a person they have never met, effect them so much."


Ok~that is more in line with what I have always felt, I have no idea why he said he thought Shawn was sincere, but he has said from the beginning that he thought Shawn was at the top of his list (and IMO for good reason), but I think he's been told to keep his opinions to himself, and really when he speaks out against Billie or Shawn like he did with Peter Hyatt, and IIRC he later posted (PH) that he was basically being blackmailed to STFU, he has nothing to gain IMO to tell all he knows since he still has a family, and surely doesn't want to lose what he has left and I honestly think he wants to be there for David too, so I see why he toned it down -way down.

Who is manipulating who here?

My speculation is that BD was the perp here and SA was used for coverup.  The reason I think this is because her timeline of events, which she continually lies or embellishes upon, still contains SA's timeline of events.  Why add in his?  If she was at work, she was at work and none of his timeline of events should really be her story.  So I think the timeline of events have been concocted from her.

But in many ways, it doesn't make sense.  Does BD have SA so wrapped around her finger that SA would put his neck out on the line for her?  Quitting his job, saying he was the last one to see Hailey, cell phone pings not matching where he says etc.  However, from BD's media interviews she has no problem stating that she loves SA.  Is she continually saying this in the media so that SA will continue to stay wrapped around her little finger so that he will not make a plea deal and tell what actually happened?

Or was SA the perp and BD is used to cover his story for him....and that she knows what he did to Hailey?  Is SA the controlling one here?

I then think of all the crime stories that she downloaded from work.  Most seem to be a Karla Homolka/Paul Bernardo type scenario.  Is this what happened here?  Afterall, BD said that everyone pretty much got what they wanted at Christmas.

I do think the answers of what happened to Hailey can be answered by BD and SA.

As opposed to a sexual assault/murder which is rather plausible, another theory that is likely is that Hailey was drugged purposefully or she took some of their illegal stash (the latter being unlikely but has to be considered).   The rage & jealousy issues in that house has to also be considered.   I've never thought Hailey left that house alive after the late evening of the 26th to early morning hours of the 27th.   It is my strong belief that the answers lie within Shawn & Billie.

ITA due to everything that I have read being said by several parties.   Have they brought cadaver dogs to SA's mother's & grandmother's houses, my mind this morning is working in a fog of fever, congestion, agonizing ear infection that is taking me to the doctor's tomorrow.

I agree with you.  I do think that something happened to Hailey after DD left that night on the 26th.  I wish we knew if they brought in HRD dogs into that house and, if they haven't, why the heck not?  The living room and that couch are consistently commented on in an indirect way and I think we may find that the living room just may be the scene of the crime. 

The above was the original missing persons alert that was released calling attention to a missing Hailey.  However ... Hailey tennis shoes were later found at home and ... the Hailey sightings in the lunchtime timeframe have not be verified by authorities.

Janet

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Tennis Shoes Found

Efforts continue to find Hailey Dunn
Posted January 5, 2011 - 10:43am

“She didn’t take any shoes or boots,” Dunn said. Originally, she thought Hailey was wearing tennis shoes but discovered them in her daughter’s room. “It was cold and she was wearing flip flops. It’s what scares me the most.”

http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/2011/01/efforts-continue-find-hailey-dunn


December 27th - 1:00 PM - Hailey Sightings

Hailey Dunn's brother no longer staying at home in Colorado City
Official: No body found in Coleman landfill
Posted January 19, 2011 at 4:36 p.m.
Updated January 19, 2011 at 11:02 p.m.

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 Neighbors reported seeing Hailey in the days or hours before she was reported missing.

Jean Burroughs, who has a beauty shop on 19th and Locust streets, said she saw the teenager twice between 10 a.m. and 1 p.m. Dec. 27.

First, Burroughs said she saw Hailey walking on East 19th Street

"I'm certain it was Hailey; I've known her for years," said Burroughs, who lives in a house behind the home on Chestnut Street that Billie Jean Dunn shared with Adkins and her two children.

Burroughs said she later saw Hailey walking down the alley behind her shop.

Travis Walston, who owns a house two doors down from the Dunn home, reported seeing the teenager Christmas Eve.

He said that Dennis Pharris, who was living in Walston's house, reported seeing Hailey in her backyard talking on a cell phone at noon Dec. 27.

"I have told the cops that his story is not reliable," said Walston, who added that he had kicked Pharris out of the house. It is unknown whether Pharris is a person of interest.

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http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/19/official-rumor-untrue-missing-colorado-city-teen-h/


Hailey Sightings Cannot be Confirmed

VIDEO: Billie Dunn Tries To Dispell Rumors Surrounding Her Daughter's Disappearance
POSTED: 6:26 pm CST January 31, 2011
UPDATED: 10:40 pm CST January 31, 2011

<snipped>

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer says the witness statements mentioned by Billie could not be validated.

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http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26683573/detail.html


Updated AMW Missing Persons Alert
AMW Case

Hailey Darlene Dunn

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Police say Hailey Darlene Dunn is a student and cheerleader at Colorado City Middle School. They say the 13-year-old girl was last seen wearing navy blue sweatpants, a short-sleeved light-colored T-shirt, flip flops and red hoop earrings. They say Hailey’s upper left ear is also pierced, and she stands at 5 feet 1 inch tall and weighs around 120 pounds. She has hazel eyes and light brown hair with blond highlights.

<snipped>

http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=76136

Considering the tennis shoes were located at home and ... the flip flops were not identified in the Missing Persons Alert ... I contend that it was a bare-footed deceased Hailey that was taken from the home by Shawn on the morning of December 27th and ... she was was taken in the clothes she went to bed in ... blue sweatpants and a short sleeve T-shirt.

IMO

Later, Janet
1:25 PM PT

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Updated AMW Missing Persons Alert
AMW Case

Hailey Darlene Dunn

<snipped>

Police say Hailey Darlene Dunn is a student and cheerleader at Colorado City Middle School. They say the 13-year-old girl was last seen wearing navy blue sweatpants, a short-sleeved light-colored T-shirt, flip flops and red hoop earrings. They say Hailey’s upper left ear is also pierced, and she stands at 5 feet 1 inch tall and weighs around 120 pounds. She has hazel eyes and light brown hair with blond highlights.

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http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=76136

1st - Hi everybody. We went out to dinner last night and took almost 9 y/o to a movie - The Eagle - bc I'm in love with Channing Tatum. The movie was ok, hubby liked it, but I regretted taking my son to it. There were a couple of gruesome parts, but nothing more than playing Call Of Duty or other war games on PS3 or Xbox 360.

2nd - Thanks for all the responses to my post yesterday. I agree with you all and I do think B&S is behind whatever happened to Hailey, I was only playing devil's advocate and tryint to be thorough.

3rd - There's a post on Topix today. I'm bringing it over and hoping that "Just Help" posts here, too. There was rumor some time ago that BJD danced at a gentlemen's club but we couldn't validate that. Then Clint told Peter Hyatt the same thing. Now "Just Help" posts the following on Topix today. Please note that there are so many unanswered questions regarding Billie & Shawn that it's not even funny. I like how this person implores people to help search. I like how this person described seeing and hearing Billie speak in person. I'm putting the "Just Help" post in blue.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/colorado-city-tx/T1FA1VMHCUGFML4NE/p153

Just Help
Midland, TX

To all interested....

I live in Midland...about 1 hour and 15 min. west of ccity. I have been keeping up with this case from the beginning. I have also searched many times for Hailey...usually on my own...twice with Hailey's Angels. The area is full of dry and wet creeks and rivers. I have really grown to appreciate all that the daily searchers do with all the dangers involved, including wild animals (wild hogs, etc.), mesquites, cacti, crazy terrain, etc. When driving around in the area, my thoughts were...so many millions of places to hide something...from recently plowed cotton fields to abandoned houses...from dark, deep sisterns to open waste oil tanks...tall weeds...pipeline ditches...old cellars...illegal dump sites. Be careful out there guys. I love all of you for the sacrifices that you make...time away from your families, huge gas bills, and fighting the urge to give up.

Jaguar Club is in Abilene...about 45 min. east of ccity on I-20. My friend from college who lives in Abilene says he thinks he remembers BD from there.

The company that SA worked for is just east of the city limit of Snyder, TX, thus the address of county road, extended from 37th street. Lots of equipment in the back, ie. dirt-moving equipment, service trucks, etc.

SA's mother's house is on the south side of Big Spring, TX. I believe it's Apache Street. Also a very 'hilly, brushy' area.

Outdoor cellars are very common in this area, mostly because of the tornadoes. Very few houses have basements. The cellar in the pictures can be seen from highway 208 in Dunn, Tx about 30 ft. behind SA's grandmother's house, where he is staying and where he did his most recent interview in the front yard. The structure behind the cellar in the pictures is a small storage building. The house can be seen from Hailey's Bridge...where the knife sheath and sunglasses were found beside the water below. The house is about 1000 yds north of the bridge and across the street.

BD's house is about 5 blocks south of I-20 and the hotel that was searched by the dogs in ccity. By the way, the dogs did not follow Hailey's scent there, but were taken there by LE. I have not met any of the characters involved in this mess, but I have seen BD in the front yard during one of her interviews. I did study body language and interpersonal communication in college. I am not an expert, but it was very obvious to me that BD is very deceptive, and at times just outright lying. I did...at first...give her a chance, but after seeing her in person, she seems very cold and cunning.

This is my first post on any site. My main reason for posting is to challenge everyone in this area, especially Midland, to quit making excuses and join the search this weekend. Help multiply the chances of finding this little girl. It's too far...too much gas...things to do...come on...I keep seeing people that live nearby on many of these blogs saying "I hope 'THEY' find her soon, but don't volunteer 1 minute of there time to help!

This is our best chance to find her while Klasskids and Laura Recovery Center are back in town for a short time. I will be there and I will try to recruit others to give one or two days of their precious time to help. If it were your child missing, you would hope there would be more people willing to lend a hand. If you are unable to go out and search, do something...gather information, print flyers and hand them out in your town, send donations to help pay for the tremendous expenses of searching so long.


Something else I read on this Topix site, but I don;t remember the page...it made me think: Billie announced that Shawn stopped at his gmom's on his way to his mom's in Big Spring. He said nobody answered the door or that nobody was home. Which was it? If nobody was home, then where were they? Wasn't it between 6:10 & 6:30 that he would have stopped at his gmom's? He knocked & knocked at the door but nobody answered. Well where would his old gmom be that early in the morning?

Another thing: If Shawn was at his mom's house by 8:00 in the morning, can that be verified? Was his brother home for Christmas break from school? I think Shawn said his mother hadn't left for work yet, or was home or something...but what about his brother?

Do the police still have Connie Walker's computer? If so, why? They've had enough time to search the harddrive...unless it's a factual part of the evidence in investigating.

Why did the police only release Shawn's cell pings but not Billie's, especially when Billie voluntarily gave her cell to them in the very beginning?

... Another thing to note is that a trouble making slanderer going by the hat "Ethel" has been writing & posting crap about Clint & Naomi. Apparently somebody got smart & traced their ip bc they were on a dial up server or something. Turns out the poster was a small time reporter trying to cash in on a missing child story, trying to air out dirty laundrey, apparently had taken the side of B&S so fought for a juicy story...note "small time". This person has no desire to believe anything bad about Shawn or Billie. If you read over this person's post, you can seriously see how much of an idiot they truly are. ...

Making cheddar potato soup. YUMMY! Be back in a bit.

Tks for the post Titch, interesting post by justhelp, insightful observations.   If LE took Connie's PC then what is she using now because havent we seen her posting?  PS your soup sounds yummie, Ill take a bowl with extra cheese via cyber delivery it would serve as great comfort food today  ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks for the post Titch.  I read that earlier and found it very enlightening. 

I don't think she's far from the truth about BD being cunning and deceptive. 

CD stated as much that she was cunning when relaying the experience of BD tricking the system when it came to DD and the school system.  Or about buying cocaine to pay the rent.  And how about the missing earring story. 

And how about the entire story of Hailey going missing that's been embellished on and even changed quite a few times?  Was that her concocted story?

Deceptive...we've all seen her in action. 

O/T BUT IMPORTANT FOR ALL TO READ:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9451.0

Sadly, I have casually pondered the same thing, curiousone.  I don't know if it is spurred by her lack of emotion/action, or just a lack of answers. 

To follow your mental wanderings above, I could add the question "Could it be that rather than being so besotted that he helps her cover up the worst, perhaps so besotted (and in risk of legal trouble) that he covers up a lesser crime that she makes him believe.  These are ALL just sad musings.  I find that in my case if there are no strong answers, and with time the strength of the finger pointing at SA seems to lessen, that my mind starts to try to consider ALL possibilities - even if they're not likelihoods.

I think the nature of the dogs has been offhandedly always stated to be tracking, not cadaver, IIRC.  And I do hope you feel better.  Ugh  :(

Good post.  At this point in time, we really have too little facts about Hailey's disappearance.  But as the weeks wear on, it seems obvious to me that BD has a part in Hailey disappearance.  In the end I may be wrong, but all her actions and her lies point directly at guilty knowledge. 

Makes me wonder who is besotted with who most in this case.  And it makes me wonder if they were both arrested right now, who would turn on whom first. 

If they had used cadaver dogs in BD's house, I am quite sure it would be all over the media, right?  So why haven't they?  Is it because they searched the car and there were no hits by cadaver dogs?  Do they assume that Hailey was alive when she left the house?

BBM

How do you know cadaver dogs weren't used to search BD's house?  I started looking around at news articles, and there have been cadaver dogs used in searches in regard to this case.  They may have been used by LE, and they haven't announced it.  It would seem to me that would be one place they would do fairly quickly to eliminate that question.  Besides cadaver dogs being used during the landfill searches, they used them in the woods etc. Here's a link about cadaver dog use in Hailey's case.  I haven't gone through with a search through all the threads to see if I could find an article that specifically states cadaver dogs were used at BD's home.  But really, wouldn't it make sense that they were?  There's a lot of time and resources being used in the search for Hailey.  Sometimes it just takes time to do a search of articles and information can be found, but maybe not, if LE didn't announce it.  Searching takes time, and I don't know if I want to spend any more time searching for it, but if you're interested, you might find something searching for it yourself.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=330796

 ::snipping2::
At this time, investigators from roughly 12 agencies have combed 80 square miles of by helicopter, horseback, cadaver dogs, person-sniffing dogs, and officers on foot, Dean said. That includes six square miles in Colorado City, creek beds, landfills, and anything else based on the hundreds of leads that have come in.
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Link to cadaver dogs being used at landfill search. 
http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/14/shawn-adkins-declared-suspect-case-hailey-dunn/

I've followed this case from day 1 and the only use of cadaver dogs in a few articles was in the landfills.  And that was explosive news from Nancy Grace to local and national media.  Therefore, my opinion above, is that if they had used cadaver dogs in the house, and the way the media were hounding that house, I am of the opinion that it would have been in the media.  Perhaps they did use them in the house, and just maybe it has been kept under wraps.  But, I think even BD couldn't help but mention it to media if they had been in her house.

Is this relevant ? I ask because these r 3 - 4 yrs. old.

Thank you Starwynn  :smt049

LEP - not sure what you are referring to.  All I see is Shawn Adkin's myspace I don't see any 3 or 4 yr old kids.

I'm not LEP, but wondering if she was questioning the relevance because it's dated, nothing to do with kids:

"these r 3 - 4 yrs. old." not 3-4 yr. olds.  As in the posts/lyrics are 3 or 4 years old.  Maybe this is what LEP meant?   :smt102

I feel it is because he is still a huge slipknot fan and it shows that he thinks that killing someone, cutting their finger off, taking a souvenir finger from them, and watching them rot are "cool" lyrics.  I didn't say that it meant he wrote them to Hailey.

OHHH, I see.  Yes the Myspace is 3 or 4 years old but I don't think he has changed his fondness of Michael Myers or gory stuff.

I've asked many times why cadaver dogs were not taken into Billie's house. 

Disgusting!

        HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY!

Happy Valentine's Day to all!  I haven't posted on SM in so long, but I thought I'd come back and see what you all have shaken out of this case!   ::MonkeyCool::

Good morning and welcome back to Scared Monkeys bamagirl.  Were you posting under a different nic?  I see you have one post, just wondered how you posted previously  :smt102 

It's really sad Hailey Dunn isn't enjoying Valentine's Day with her classmates.  I hope she's found soon.

 ::MonkeyHeart::

 ::MonkeyShocked::

No communication between law enforcementand and either of Hailey's parents.  Why?

Is the reason something or ... is the reason nothing?

Janet

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No Communication in Three Weeks

Clint Dunn Expresses Frustration With AuthoritiesBy Casey James, KTXS News
POSTED: 10:35 pm CST February 12, 2011
EmailPrintAAAText SizeUPDATED: 9:19 am CST February 14, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Nearly seven weeks after the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, her father Clint Dunn is frustrated with police as he continues to search for his daughter.

"I haven't talked to them in three weeks; I don't know what they're doing," Clint Dunn said Saturday.

Clint Dunn expressed his frustration with how tight-lipped authorities are being about the investigation of his missing daughter.

Clint told KTXS, "They haven't called me or nothing. Last time I went up there ... three weeks ago was the last time they have gotten a hold of me."

Colorado City officials have assured KTXS that they plan to get in touch with Hailey's parents if there is a big break in the case. So far that hasn't happened.

Hailey's mother, Billie Dunn, has told us that police do call her every now and again.

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http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26848324/detail.html


Same Book - Different Page

Missing teen's father putting faith in God that his daughter will be found
Posted: Jan 21, 2011 7:09 PM PST
Updated: Jan 21, 2011 8:51 PM PST

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer said the number of people from outside agencies working on the case has lessened. He estimates about 10 people per day working on the case, down from 30 a week ago. "It's disappointing. I wish they'd call more people in to see what's going on, but I guess they're giving up," Dunn said.

Kampfer insists they're not giving up and that their investigation will continue even if numbers are lower. Dunn said conversations with Hailey's mother Billie are also less frequent. "We're in the same book, but not in the same page. We're not keeping a lot of contact, especially since the affidavits came out."

http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=13887971

Well, with Billie since she was uncooperative & critical of LE in addition to remaining close to their #1 suspect I guess that is an explanation but with Clint the only thing I can think of is that while they dont suspect him of any wrongdoing they may not trust that he wouldnt give something away to Billie, thru anger or otherwise.  It seems they are sitting on their theory but since they readily didnt find Hailey they are leaving it up to either something giving way by word of mouth or someone else discovers what is not smacking them in the face.  That being said, I'm praying they have more evidence than we know about & they will be able to solve this case soon.   I normally give LE all the credit they deserve in protecting society & investigating a case when I feel they are performing their duties to the fullest, I'm not sure I can say that with confidence in this case...I pray my concern was unmerited. 

My thoughts exactly.

Janet

Could it be that cadaver dogs were never used in the search?

Considering my theory implies that a deceased bare-footed Hailey wearing blue sweats and a short sleeved T shirt was taken from her bed by Shawn on the morning of December 27th ... whether cadaver dogs were used in the home searches of January 5th and 13th is a huge issue.  IMO

Janet

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Search for Colorado City Girl Takes a New Turn
January 6, 2011

Yesterday, authorities were focusing their search on the home of Hailey Dunn and a shed just behind it.

Several officials were seen carrying out bags of what appear to be evidence.

Meanwhile, city officials say foul play is now a possibility.

http://www.cbs7kosa.com/news/details.asp?ID=23234


NANCY GRACE
Hailey`s Grandmother Suspects Mother`s Boyfriend
Aired January 13, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET

GRACE: Back to Billie Dunn, let me see if I can hear you this time.

Miss Dunn, why do police want to dig under your home?

DUNN: Because they asked if there was a way they could get under the home to search. And I told them, sure, we`ll get them under there. There was a place that Clint, when he was here, he boarded up a long time ago so the dogs couldn`t get under there. But I know where it is and we can get them under there.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/13/ng.01.html
 

The place of the last confirmed sighting of Hailey Dunn was not searched for NINE DAYS!!!  Considering that place was the residence of the only named suspect in the case ... logic dictates that crucial evidence could have been distroyed in that period.

I still cannot locate a media report where it is specifically mentioned that cadaver dogs were used in the searches of the home.

Janet

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Search Continues For Hailey Dunn: Five Agencies Involved
POSTED: 7:52 pm CST January 5, 2011
UPDATED: 10:05 am CST January 6, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Now after nine days of searching, five different agencies and all sorts of tools are being used to help find 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.

Texas Rangers were at the missing Colorado City teen's home Wednesday collecting evidence.

Rangers spent a considerable amount of time collecting evidence from a shed in the home's back yard.

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26382529/detail.html

Was this indeed the first time they searched the house, I thought there was one done sooner but the beginning of this case was very hectic for me because I had family visiting for a week & it was sporadic when I could check in on the case.   I had hoped I missed the initial reporting of an original search sooner or missed something.   My God, nine days is way too long & after failed polys correct?   Okay my concern just went back up considerably.

Never mind I looked and the dual polys were taken the first week in January...yea so it was AFTER they failed the polys the above mentioned search was done at BD's home.

That is my recollection too Capp, I remember it being cleared up on NG on night, and I also remember the dogs (Whatever kind they were) were brought to the house (not sure what they searched but I can check) on Dec 31st. I do remember Billie stating that they had been to the house to search and then the rangers came back for a more thorough search,

Here it is unless she is lying about this....... ::MonkeyTongue::


GRACE: When the police came to your home to search your home, where did they look?

BILLIE: The entire house. And they did — the police searched it Wednesday, the day after she was reported missing. The Texas Rangers searched it again yesterday, a more thorough search, and they took some pictures and — so they had already searched it. They didn`t wait
http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-source-references/nancy-grace-excerpts-jan-06/

Thanks Island.  I too thought a search had been done, but couldn't find the link.  Appreciate it.

Thanks IM

It makes sense that some type of search took place when it was discovered that Hailey did not go to either Clint or Mary Beth's home on the afternoon of December 27th as Shawn claimed.

I can appreciate that cadaver dogs may not have been used at this point in time but ... were they ever used in the search of the home?

Janet

Tks I thought so but wasnt sure & as to Billie possibly lying....well we know the answer to that.   

Happy Valentine's Day!

I can't believe I forgot to get the affidavit & warrant for Shawn's cell! I personally believe le has more than we think.

http://www.newswest9.com/Global/link.asp?L=471989

Cell Affidavit - Shawn

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(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/affidavitsacell4.jpg)

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/affidavitsacell5.jpg)

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/affidavitsacell6.jpg)

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/affidavitsacell7.jpg)

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/affidavitsacell8.jpg)

http://www.newswest9.com/Global/link.asp?L=471989

Cell Warrant - Shawn

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/warrantsacell1.jpg)

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/warrantsacell2.jpg)

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ATTN CLINT DUNN:[/b] According to the Affidavit & Warrant to search Billie's cell, it was requested and issued/signed on January 7, 2001. The information regarding the cell was to be back in the hands of investigators within 20 days. This information should be back by now. As Hailey's biological father, you should have the right to request such info regarding said cell since it was the phone that your children used most frequently. I implore you to please set aside your animosity with your past and go to the police, fbi, whomever may listen and request the info regarding the cell use. Since this was the phone Hailey used most frequently, you should have the right to see this information. Tell them you have the right to this information. For your convenience, here are the affidavit & warrant regarding Billie's cell. Thanks.

http://media.reporternews.com/media/static/0119_001.pdf

Cell Affidavit - Billie Jean

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http://media.reporternews.com/media/static/0117_001.pdf

Warrant to search Billie Jean's cell:

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RE: Billie's & Shawn's affidavits & warrants... I think it's important to note le requested any and all info from their cell phones during the period of 12/25/10-1/7/11. Hailey arrived home from Clint's on the 26th. I think le is trying to see if something was in the making... Hmmm...

Hi starwynn

I could be wrong but I do not think that cadaver dogs participated in the home searches.

Considering my theory implies that Shawn returned home on the morning of December 27th and retrieved a bare-footed deceased Hailey from her bed wearing blue sweats and a short-sleeved T-shirt ... the issue of the cadaver dogs is huge.

Happy Valentines All.

 :smt060

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December 29th Home Search

NANCY GRACE
Missing Cheerleader`s Mom and Boyfriend Failed Polygraph
Aired January 6, 2011 - 20:00   ET

GRACE: When the police came to your home to search your home, where did they look?

BILLIE DUNN: The entire house. And they did -- the police searched it Wednesday, the day after she was reported missing. The Texas Rangers searched it again yesterday, a more thorough search, and they took some pictures and -- so they had already searched it. They didn`t wait.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/06/ng.01.html


January 5th Home Search

Search for Colorado City Girl Takes a New Turn
January 6, 2011

Yesterday, authorities were focusing their search on the home of Hailey Dunn and a shed just behind it.

Several officials were seen carrying out bags of what appear to be evidence.

Meanwhile, city officials say foul play is now a possibility.

http://www.cbs7kosa.com/news/details.asp?ID=23234


January 5th Home Search

Search Continues For Hailey Dunn: Five Agencies Involved
POSTED: 7:52 pm CST January 5, 2011
UPDATED: 10:05 am CST January 6, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Now after nine days of searching, five different agencies and all sorts of tools are being used to help find 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.

Texas Rangers were at the missing Colorado City teen's home Wednesday collecting evidence.

Rangers spent a considerable amount of time collecting evidence from a shed in the home's back yard.

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26382529/detail.html


January 13th Home Search?

NANCY GRACE
Hailey`s Grandmother Suspects Mother`s Boyfriend
Aired January 13, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET

GRACE: Back to Billie Dunn, let me see if I can hear you this time.

Miss Dunn, why do police want to dig under your home?

DUNN: Because they asked if there was a way they could get under the home to search. And I told them, sure, we`ll get them under there. There was a place that Clint, when he was here, he boarded up a long time ago so the dogs couldn`t get under there. But I know where it is and we can get them under there.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/13/ng.01.html

Klass/Mods

Please delete post #156.  I messed up the highlighting.

Thanks

Janet

Done.  YW 
MuffyBee

Volunteer Searchers Scour Creek in Scurry County

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This weekend, searchers took to the water for the first time, using a small boat to search a creek in Dunn.

"We can see down in the water area, out in the middle of it," said searcher Mychelle Grissom.

A local landowner gave crews permission to search the area.

"We got some tips from several people that concern this creek," volunteer Freda Radcliff said.

Despite the circumstances, volunteers said they won't give up hope.

"Wherever we need to be, whenever we get a lead, we're on it day or night," Grissom said.

National groups KlaasKids and the Laura Recovery Center will organize a massive search of the area next weekend.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/search-fulltext?nxd_id=341696

whoops vid at link too
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/search-fulltext?nxd_id=341696

I didn't think any dogs participated in the searches about which I'm thinking; I didn't realize we were talking about cadaver dogs at 9 days.

Janet, I 100% agree with you about the cadaver dogs.  If they haven't used them in the house, why not?  I think it's imperative they do.  I seriously hope it just wasn't reported but the media was all over the search of the house and shed, landfills, etc. that I find it hard to believe that they kept in silent if cadaver dogs were used.

There appears to have been three searches of the home.  Were cadaver dogs used in any of the home searches?  If not; why not?

Considering the cold weather ... considering the shoes and jacket that were found in the home ... it would appear that it was a deceased Hailey who was taken from her home on the morning of December 27th.  IMO

Janet

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HOME SEARCHES

1.  December 28th - Police

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/06/ng.01.html


2.  January 5th - Texas Rangers

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/06/ng.01.html
http://www.cbs7kosa.com/news/details.asp?ID=23234
http://www.ktxs.com/news/26382529/detail.html


3.  January 13th - Police

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/13/ng.01.html

I believe it was reported that cadaver dogs were used at the landfills but ... nothing regarding the home.

Considering Shawn's claim regarding Hailey's alleged plans on the afternoon of December 27th ... in the process of elimination in the investigation ... Clint and Naomi should have been given polygraphs and ... Mary Beth's mother should have been given a polygraph.  Maybe they have.

Also ... Clint and Naomi's apartment as well as the Garcia home should have been searched for evidence.  Maybe they were.

IMO

Janet

Sorry ! I did not mean children. I meant that these postngs were 3 - 4 years old.

Stopping by to see if anything new has popped up.  Saw they are doing a massive search in the park area.  I wish I could go but have grandkids here this weekend.  Hoping something turns up soon.  This is getting to be Haleigh Cummings deja vu all over again.   :2brickwall:

flutter, I agree . . . hoping something happens soon.
o/t love your sig line!

I agree.

:2brickwall:

Enjoy your grandkids flutter.  Precious memories.

Janet

If investigators have failed to go down ALL avenues in persuit of the truth encompassing the disappearance of Hailey ... it can only benefit Shawn's defence if this case should go to trial.  IMO

Janet

Good am all monkeys.
I was MIA yesterday with appts., etc.

I read over at Chat House News this am, and 1
of Shawn's former classmates told news reporter
that Shawn was a "Goth" in high school. Geez ! Big surprise, huh ?

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=342136
Find Hailey Dunn: Adkins' Former Classmate Speaks Out

Reported by: Priscilla Luong
Monday, February 14 2011

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"He pretty much kept to himself," recalls Arrelano, "dressed all in black, gothic."

Arrelano says she attended high school with Adkins in Snyder. Adkins is the only suspect Colorado City authorities will name in the case. Arrelano still remembers watching Adkins for the first time on television after Hailey's disappearance.

"I was like. I know this guy," she remembers, "and I pulled out my yearbook, and yes I did have a class with him."

They took a drama class together. Arrelano says she understands why many people think Adkins was involved in Hailey's disappearance.

"With all the footage that's on YouTube, and all these videos that I've seen online, it wouldn't surprise me," said Arrelano.

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Its not even the fact that he is Goth as much as the evil in his eyes is actually visible that gets me.  Ive seen many a sociopath thru the years & my hubby argues with me constantly that you cannot tell by appearance, I beg to differ as to me its almost always visible in the eyes as I refer to it as "dead eyes."   Even studying a murderer such as Scott Peterson or Ted Bundy, despite what one could perceive as good looks & a clean cut appearance at times they gave themselves away thru their eyes.

Billie Dunn Dumm makes a plea via the media today:

http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/hailey-dunn-update-missing-girl-s-mom-makes-public-plea-for-daughter-video

Sorry this is from 1/31. It is not labeled properly.

From a FB group that is private, if you want the link I will provide it but you still won't be able to see it unless you are a member.

But, all that stated.........nothing shocks me anymore and the Cummings case creeps in my mind for so many reasons but this one is another similarity, remember how ppl were related to both sides of the family, well rumor is BG Brian Glasco is too, what are the odds ::MonkeyTongue::


Julie Kay
Cindy Glasco commented on HDOD. Timber asked if they found her X yet. So she was married to Clint's brother, BG but is she related to Billie's side? This family confuses me so much!

5 hours ago ·

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Julie Kay Nevermind I asked her. She is BD's aunt and her and Billie married brothers she said.




http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905#!/home.php?sk=group_186816348005318&notif_t=group_activity

IM, I'm posting from my iPhone bc for some reason it won't let me scroll to the end of your quote. I posted last week or week before the marriage license & link to Brian & Cindy. I also posted the link to Clint's mom's FB which informs Brian is Clint's brother. It gets confusing bc there are sooo many marriages involved in this family. Remember Clint's mom was married SEVERAL times. Yes, Cindy is Billie's aunt, but I still don't know the exact direct linkage. It's been informed by her that she's Billie's aunt from her side, not by marriage to Clint. Stewart is her maiden name. I've said repeatedly how this case reminds me of the HaLeigh Cummings case. It's crazy!

Excerpt from that article: "She also said she is frustrated with the media and believes any interviews she has done have been cut and edited, leaving her open to accusations that she may have had something to do with Hailey’s disappearance.

Continue reading on Examiner.com: Hailey Dunn update: Missing girl’s mom makes public plea for daughter (video) - National Crime | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/hailey-dunn-update-missing-girl-s-mom-makes-public-plea-for-daughter-video#ixzz1E4UiOVGH
"

My reply:  Um, no dear - that would be your choice of keeping your obviously psychopathic and threatening boy-toy in the house and then in your life after Hailey's disappearance.   ::MonkeyMad::  Oh, and the fact that you are so obviously lying about stuff.

Kimberly Norwood has been missing from Texas since 1989. I've read online that there is no relation to The Norwood family in this case. Are there alot of Norwoods in Texas?

http://lostnmissing.amplify.com/2010/09/28/texas-girl-12-disappeared-in-1989/

I remember that Titch, but still had no clue she was related to Billie before the marriage....good heavens I bet the family tree has almost  no branches and those they do have are twisted.

yeah, remember Billie's mom was a Stewart when she had Billie with Del Ostrander.

Don't miss the Dana Pretzer show tonight at 9pm ET:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/02/15/22540/

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I hope Billie 'n Shawn had an Awesome Valentine's Day and that it didn't turn out like last year.
I hope that they didn't have to phone 911 again.
..........
He must really hate Billie to have done something to her daughter.
Think about it. Or he was in such a rage at Billie who was at work, he took it out on Hailey. Quits his job, goes to Mommy's to use her computer to see if he can get Unemployment to get back on his feet. And he has only been gone from work for two / three hours ?  Like why couln't he have gone back to work on Tuesday ? And made up some crap about being sick ?   
( If he didn't do it, why all the lies to LE to obstruct ? ) 
Sorry Shawn 'n Billie, no one is buying all this awesome relationship stuff.   
This is all my own opinion.

Hello, the article isn't about Hailey, but I think it is relevant, especially if Hailey didn't send the 2 p.m. text message.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/02/15/new.york.missing.student/index.html?hpt=T2

I do not think it had anything to do with Shawn hating Billie. It had to do with him wanting to do things to her daughter. Fulfilling a fantasy or two.

Yes CarolynV - great article and could very pertain to the text msg in this case

Thanks Carolyn

I contend that the text message sent to Mary Beth at 2:00 PM on December 27th will be the smoking gun in the case.  I believe that the text message originated in the Big Spring area and ... the author is Shawn Adkins ... not Haley Dunn.

Think about it.  When Billie Dunn reveals all the alleged "Hailey sightings" ... alleged "Hailey sightings" that she believes can affirm that her daughter was alive on December 27th ... there is no mention of the text message received by Mary Beth at 2:00 PM that implies that Hailey was the author.

Could it be that Billie realized that the text message originated in Big Spring.  In other words ... Shawn was the author ... not Hailey?

Janet

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The Text Message

Mom of Hailey's Friend on the Sleepover That Never Happened
Sunday, January 23 2011

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(Cecilia) Garcia says on the day Hailey disappeared, Mary beth received a text message that said "what are you doing?"

She says the message was sent from Hailey's mother's cell phone at about 2 o'clock, which Hailey always used, but Garcia says she worries that there is no evidence to prove Hailey sent that message.

The Garcia family says authorities have taken that text message as evidence in the investigation.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=334376


Hailey Sightings?

Billie Jean Dunn Press Conference, January 31, 2011, Transcribed

<snipped>

I do not understand why they seem to have disregarded all of the witnesses who have come forward to say they saw Hailey on Monday, December 27th.

Two of my neighbors came forward to say they saw Hailey in my back yard around noon.

Another neighbor said he saw Hailey and a small dark boy, probably Naomi’s son, two times between 10:30 and noon.

A woman who knows Hailey, and the friend she was supposed to spend the night with, saw them both walking together in front of Alco around 8:30pm. This woman was returning a movie to the Redbox, and passed by them. She still had a receipt, and brought it by and showed it to me the other day, with the date of the 27th, and the time of 8:36.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/01/31/hailey-dunn-billie-jean-dunn-press-conference-january-31-transcription-1/


Sightings Cannot be Validated

VIDEO: Billie Dunn Tries To Dispell Rumors Surrounding Her Daughter's Disappearance
POSTED: 6:26 pm CST January 31, 2011
UPDATED: 10:40 pm CST January 31, 2011

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Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer says the witness statements mentioned by Billie could not be validated.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26683573/detail.html

I am curious what the alleged text message sent by Hailey to her friend literally said.  From reports, it was "what are you doing?"  Would you type out all that to see what your bff was doing?  nah - b more like "sup?"  Wouldn't it?

In her January 31st press conference ... Billie said nothing about the 2:40 PM text message to Mary Beth ... the text message allegedly authored by Hailey.  Why?

Logic dictates if it had been determined by authorities that Colorado City had been the origin ... Billie would have revealed to the world the proof that Hailey was alive at 2:00 PM on the afternoon of December 27th.  Instead ... in her January 31st press conference ... she only alluded to alleged witnesses whose statements have yet to be confirmed.

Janet

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The Text Message

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 17, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET

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ALEXIS WEED, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Nancy, we`re getting a little bit more information on what could be the timeline that has to do with Monday December 27th, the day in question. We`re finding out today from Billie Dunn, that perhaps there was a text message, she`s hearing from police, a text message was sent from her phone, that`s the phone that Hailey would use, she used her mother`s phone, sent at 2:00 in the afternoon, to the friend where she was supposedly going according to Shawn Adkins to the friend`s house, however, there was no response to that text. The text said just what are you doing to the friend.

GRACE: Now Billie Dunn, explain to me the significance of that?

B. DUNN: With Shawn getting the cell phone pings coming back to Colorado City that morning, I want to know who she talked to on the phone, it`s very important to me if she was on that phone and they`re not saying that anybody is an accountable witness it seems that has seen her on Monday. So I want to know who called my cell phone that morning and that afternoon, and who she called, and those are answers that I know they have, that they still haven`t gotten back with me on.

<snippped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/17/ng.01.html


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 18, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET

<snipped>

ALEXIS WEED, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Billie Dunn is telling us that she saw herself that text, that she saw it before police seized her phone, which they still have. Her phone has not been returned. So she`s saying that she saw it with her own eyes, that "WRUD," what are you doing, to the friend.

GRACE: Do you know, Alexis, what time of the day that text was sent?

WEED: Billie Dunn said it was just after 2:00 o`clock in the afternoon.

GRACE: At 2:00 PM. Now, let me get something straight. Rupa Mikkilineni, what time does the live-in say he came home that day from his mother`s?

MIKKILINENI: He says he came home at about 3:15, that he was on his way into the house, and he said Hailey was on her way out, saying, Hey, I`m going to go see a friend, then go over to my dad`s and spend the night at a friend`s house.

GRACE: And back to you, Alexis Weed. The pings off the boyfriend`s cell phone -- and everybody, I`m just asking questions about this live-in boyfriend. He`s now moved out. Billie Dunn told him to leave. He has apparently cut off contact to her. I`m not saying he`s the only person that should be looked at, but I`ve got a lot of questions about his behavior.

Alexis Weed, I want to talk very quickly -- let me see the map, Liz, of the pings. Do the pings tell us where he was at 2:00 PM that day?

WEED: They tell us that between the hours of 9:38 in the morning and 2:40 in the afternoon, that Shawn Adkins was pinging around the Big Spring, Texas, area. That`s where his grandmother lives. But before that, Nancy, between the hours of 6:35 and 6:56 in the morning, that`s when he was pinging around Colorado City where Hailey`s -- Hailey`s home is located.

GRACE: So at 2:40 PM, I`ve still got him at his mother`s house, right?

WEED: Right.

GRACE: Now, question. Back to you, Jean Casarez. Let`s talk about this 2:00 PM text from Hailey`s phone. Where did it ping? Where did it ping?

CASAREZ: That`s very interesting. Where did it ping from? We don`t know.

GRACE: Because, listen, you see where I`m going, Jean.

CASAREZ: Yes, I do.

GRACE: If the boyfriend had Hailey`s phone and he was faking that text, this innocuous, generic text, What are you doing, to a little friend of hers, he could have gotten that friend`s name out of the phone directory, if she had it in the -- it was a disposable phone. How do I know he didn`t send that? And if he did, where was he? If he was at his mom`s until 2:40, did that cell ping, that text ping from where his mother lived? Because if it did, he`s in a lot of trouble, Jean.

CASAREZ: That`s right. And otherwise, if it didn`t, if it pinged from the home in Colorado City, then maybe little Hailey Dunn was alive at that point.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/18/ng.01.html

Got it now.

I believe you answered your own question Janet because logic dictates that if Billie had proof that Hailey was alive at 2PM, Monday the 27th of December she would have indeed consistently & constantly reminded the world of that fact every time she spoke about when her daughter went "missing."  A true timeline is essentially important when hoping to find a person missing, the last proof of Hailey being alive is the obvious key factor in the case.

http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/2nd-anniversary-of-amber-dubois-murder-helps-raise-funds-for-hailey-dunn-search

Please say a prayer for Hailey and Team Amber Rescue. Many of the members of Team Amber Rescue are my friends and they are leaving today to search for Hailey.

Sebastian..prayers to the group going to find Hailey

Today and always   ::MonkeyAngel::

Tomorrow morning I am heading out to Colorado City too.  I think the time has come for me to "walk the walk" so to speak. 

Hi Chi-monkey!
I will say a prayer for a safe trip for you as well! Are you going with a SAR group? Please be safe!

Thanks sebastian.  I am going alone, but may join a group once I'm there. 

Please get in touch with Carrie McGonigle. If Klaas will give you my email, I will give you more information. I wish I could go! I took a SAR class and realized that it is not something that I could do. I could not handle coming across a child that has passed. I do other things, donations, etc. Please email me.

Yes, God speed to you as well but please get in touch with an established group.  It is always best to team up in these situations for your safety but physically & legally.

correction to above post *both not but

Good for you!  It is an experience you will never forget.  No matter what the outcome of your search,  you made a difference in the finding an angel.

Ditto that.
Stay safe.

If you're not gone already and you read this:  I would *highly* suggest joining at team because of the way the land is, and the dangers.  Also, you want a buddy system in those things - particularly since I've heard that Shawn likes to go watch them from afar sometimes.

I really have nothing to add today due to nothing new coming out but I will offer up a prayer that we get an answer to what happened to Hailey very shortly...patience & too much time has gone by already  ::MonkeyAngel::

Hi strangers ::HelloKitty:: I am hearing Clint is in jail, no idea why.....I thought it might be on the MJ charge but rumor is he went to LE to demand answers about Hailey and was arrested, again RUMOR< SPECULATION, someone was emailed that is what happened when they inquired......just letting y'all know

Sorry that was confusing, the rumor is WHY he is in jail-not that he IS in jail  ::piggy::

KTAB News at 10: Hailey Dunn as You've Never Seen Her

Reported by: Bigcountryhomepage.com Staff Reports
Wednesday, February 16 2011
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not  ::snipping2:: due to the entire article being short in its entirety
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=342816

Capp:  Copyright issues have nothing to do with the length of the article.  When the article is so short maybe just the headline and link would suffice.  In the future please snip even if the article is short.

Hmm...I see no news via google search, guess we'll wait to see if anything develops from the rumor

I know, but check the vinelink link.......he's there we just don't know for sure why yet?


http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/offender_information.htm

This is a link to get there too

I just came to post about CD being in jail but I guess you already know.  Interesting.

https://www.vinelink.com/vinelink/detailsAction.do?siteId=44900&agency=489&id=2844&searchType=offender (https://www.vinelink.com/vinelink/detailsAction.do?siteId=44900&agency=489&id=2844&searchType=offender)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5172/5452386298_446fab3f10_o.jpg)

Well we know he was arrested for he bud (or at least that is how someone described the amount) and IIRC he had a warrant from another county, but the rumor is interesting to me......we'll see.

Ok, rumor was obviously just that it is an old charge according to his mom's FB.....

Connie Jones February 16 at 4:51pm
No he was not arrested, he had to yurn hemself in on a old cherge.

Please - post the link to the facebook EVEN if you need to be a friend to read

http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100001251345847 (http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100001251345847)

Fewer New Leads Developing in Dunn Case
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=342876

Well, sometimes it's time to man up and face your past.  Let's hope that's what it is.

I'm probably the only one not entirely sold Shawn is behind Hailey going missing.  While I will say I won't be surprised if he is involved I won't be surprised if he's not either.

Here's why, when I first started trying to make sense of who was with who, the kids, the parents, etc almost everything I read about Shawn made me think he stepped into the role of mom's boyfriend with the mentality of a teenage kid. Everything said about Billie's kids having a problem with Shawn, sounded more like he had came into their world like an entitled spoiled stepkid, demanding more and better rights because he's the oldest. At that point I thought no wonder Hailey and him didn't get along. Later during Billie's interviews she defended all those claims as being old problems, they were better now and then she would go on with an explanation, that had I not known Shawn was her BF I would have thought she was talking about 3 teenagers. She more or less took on the role of Shawn's mom and Shawn took on the role of rebellious teenager, too dumb to realize as an adult dating someone with kids not all that much younger than he is, he needs to not only grow the heck up, but also have a sit down chat with Billie and let her know he IS an adult and refuses to be treated like one of her kids.

I realize if a person has kids they need to protect them so there's common sense issues of what's allowed around them and what's not, but I would think in a relationship it's more out of respect and wanting to move forward with the relationship, not because someone has put rules in place they're expected to follow.

It seems like a lot of Shawn's moving out had to do with fights caused from Shawn getting caught doing what he'd been told he couldn't do  and/or lying about it. Then like commonly seen with parents of out of control teens, the teenager gets booted out of the house, realizes how good they had it, calls up mom and dad to let them know how they've learned their lesson and begs to come back, only to do it again.   


Billie isn't Shawn's mom and neither one seems to realize this. I can't get past viewing him as an immature, cocky, 15 year old, who does what he wants, including lie to avoid the wrath of "mom". That said I can't see how Shawn could pull off getting rid of Hailey without leaving one shred of physical evidence. Maybe I'm not giving him enough credit and he was able to pull this off,  I just don't think he's exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer so as of now I can't see how. 

Sorry-I went to post it and it isn't on that page, it was a PM.....

If I do this wrong, please correct me. ::MonkeyCool::

Have ya'll seen the criminal record of MB's mother?  Long record, on Probation
until 2019.   Past offenses include selling cocaine and marijuana and sex offender.
Some suggestions that she is BD drug connection.

tp://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fseamusoriley.blogspot.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dhailey%2Bdunn&h=0898b

Please be careful around CCity. My husband did the servers at a couple of power plants around there and there are lots of critters in the area that are very dangerous. Wear boots and pants.

O okay, now I know why.

That's what I was waiting to hear, hopefully we'll get something more confirmed shortly.

Interesting, but if Hailey never made it to MB's house it might be irrelevant.  I tend to agree with many who feel Hailey never left her own home & the dreaded fact that implies.

Cecilia Gracia

Search intensifies for missing Colorado City teen
Hannah Boen / Reporter-News Staff
Updated Thursday, January 6, 2011

According to Adkins, Hailey had plans to spend the night at Mary Beth Garcia’s home the night before she was reported missing by Billie Jean Dunn.

Cecilia Garcia, Mary Beth’s mother, said Thursday that Mary Beth considers Hailey to be her best friend, but Hailey never had been to the Garcia home to spend the night. Mary Beth had spent the night at Hailey Dunn’s home once.

Cecilia Garcia said the first time she saw Billie Jean Dunn was on television, when she appeared earlier on Grace’s program to discuss her daughter’s disappearance.

http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/06/helicopter-being-used-search-missing-colorado-city/?partner=popular

Celicia Garcia

Hailey Dunn: Unfolding a story of a missing teenager and her family
By Brian Bethel
Published Saturday, January 8, 2011

<snipped>

Mary Beth Garcia, her mother said, had visited the Dunns’ home overnight.

“My daughter, I let her visit her and spend the night,” she said. “And the last time I did, I didn’t like it, because I heard they were walking the street with other kids”

Garcia said she never let her daughter spend the night at the home again.

Later, she said that her daughter told her that Dunn had expressed a desire to move in with her birth father, which Garcia said her daughter indicated led to a family altercation around Christmastime.

<snipped>

http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/08/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/

Clint Dunn Arrested?

Hailey Dunn: Unfolding a story of a missing teenager and her family
By Brian Bethel
Published Saturday, January 8, 2011

<snipped>

A search of website publicdata.com reveals no criminal histories for Billie Jean Dunn or for Shawn Adkins. Clint Dunn, however, has multiple arrests, starting in 1994 for burglary of a building, a state jail felony. Following that are subsequent arrests in 1998 for possession of marijuana, under 2 ounces, one in March 1999 for driving with a suspended license.

He was arrested again Jan. 30, 2010, by Snyder police for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces. And he was arrested at his home Dec. 29, again for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces, and a Scurry County warrant.
<snipped>

http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/08/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/?partner=RSS

Considering Shawn's claim regarding Hailey's alleged plans on the afternoon of December 27th  ... in the process of elimination in the investigation ... Clint and Naomi should have been given polygraphs and ... Mary Beth's mother should have been given a polygraph.  Maybe they have.

Also ... Clint and Naomi's apartment as well as the Garcia home should have been searched for evidence.  Maybe they were.

If investigators have failed to go down ALL avenues in persuit of the truth encompassing the disappearance of Hailey ... it can only benefit Shawn's defence if this case should go to trial/

IMO

Janet

Is there anyway to tell how he got out so quick after his last arrest? Just wondering if he was let out on his own recognizance so he could search for Hailey, or did he have to make bail.

Personally I think they should have kept him. I realize he has a daughter missing, but I also realize he also has a new baby daughter and he didn't think twice about bringing drugs into her home, also the home of his girlfriend's other child. The GF doesn't appear to be looking out for the best interest of her kids either. CD being unemployed, staying in subsidized housing his GF and her two kids qualified for, not him, yet he somehow found a way to get illegal drugs and take them to where two kids live, doesn't make me a big fan. Plus I thought drugs cost money, something most unemployed people lack excess of.

Did CD have plans to move somewhere he could have Hailey? I remember hearing she was planning on moving in with her dad but with him not working and living in a house he wasn't suppose to be living at, it seems like this wasn't a possibility unless his living situation changed.  Or was he planning on moving her into his GF subsidized housing?

Shy...lemme tell on myself about those old pot days!  Sometimes you know a friend who has a fair amount of weed and they will 'front' or loan it to you and you can sell just enough to make the money to give back to the guy who fronted it to you and your part would be free.  That is, if he is selling and keeping a small amount for himself.  On the other hand, he maybe buying small amounts to smoke which isn't too expensive, used to be $30 to 40 per quarter. Don't know all the benefits Naomi was getting but I think we do know she did have Sect. 8, or subsidized housing, probably Medicaid, Food Stamps and on top of that may have been getting a couple hundred dollars due to the fact they don't expect the Mom a newborn to run out and look for work right away.  She could have been handing him some of that money.  I'm gonna that no, he's never been busted for a large, sellable amount but I'll call that lucky, cause most peeps in his situation would sell and get theirs for free.  All MOO!

IIRC he said something about wanting to find a place for Hailey and his family, but that it just didn't happen.

Clint Dunn seems to have a drug problem. Stating that it is for "medicinal" purposes is DENIAL! A very common problem with the addict/alcoholic. He is sick, and he needs medical help for his addiction. Help for his addiction would be great, but that is a long stressful road. He needs it, but with his daughter missing, it would be next to impossible IMO for him to stop.

Alcohol and drugs are cunning, baffling, & powerful. The user is totally powerless over their addiction and needs inpatient rehab or a rigid 12 step program and aggressive sponsor to help them attain sobriety. IF Clint were to try on his own now, I think he would get depressed, and very disoriented in his thinking.

I am not defending the user, but I am Clint's fan and will continue to be. He and Naomi have walked for miles on FOT to search, while carrying a newborn with them. I see that ias the true, undying, unconditional of a Father for his baby, Hailey. I have never heard a thing about Billie or Shawn dong anything physically to search for her, but do seem to watch a lot of tv ! Perhaps they r gaining insight into motives for Haileys disappearance by watching for theories on CS, NCIS, etc. ya think ?

I don't know about the Garcia home, but Clint;'s was searched-that's where the last MJ charge stemmed from.

I do agree everyone should be poly'd - no doubt.

WRT the house, it was Clint and Billie's, he could have fought for it but as I understood he wanted the kids to live there. I also read he bought it and when he moved out there were only 3 pymts left that Billie made which is irrelevant as the law applies since both names were on the deed, they both had a 50% interest. I'd boot her out to be honest and move my family in as I think Hailey is already home.

Does Clint Dunn beling in jail at this time ?
He did break the law, but I would hope someone bails him out.

He needs to search for his daughter.

What do u mean by this, I am confused :
as I think Hailey is already home.

OK, I am really confused, and if this post shouldn't be here please delete it...

But MB's mom, GG... the information on seamus's site, the wrap sheet - do we know this is hers?  It says clearly sexual offender, violent offender, and lists an aggravation code for the offense.  I can't find her on the CC's SO sites, and I can't find her listed as a SO if I search her name. 

Is anyone more clued-in than I am, or is this piece of information saying that MB's mom is a VO SO on probation til 2019?

What I find interesting for those defending Clint is that if Hailey had disappeared on his watch,his lifestyle would not be so easily dismissed.  We would be up in arms...drug charges, living with his baby's mother in her subsidized housing, bringing dope into the home where little children reside, unemployed, etc.etc.   Not trying to give BD a pass on her culpability in Hailey's disappearance at all.. I just happen to believe that it is BOTH parent's responsibility to make sure that their children are brought up in a safe environment and not the sole responsibility of the custodial parent..jmo...If Clint knew that Hailey was uncomfortable with SA being there, as said by his mother, he knew that BD was using prescription pills and other things that he now alledges against BD,  was it not his responsibility as Hailey's father to take her out of there?  I find it fascinating that because Clint was not the parent who Hailey resided with that his lifestyle is more overlooked?   Keep in mind that Hailey did spend quite a bit of time at her father's home and I doubt that his lifestyle switched when Hailey was there..vs when she was not there. All just my humble opinion.
As a divorced parent years ago, I know that my ex would not have tolerated a lifestyle that would have put our children in harms way, nor would I have tolerated my ex living a lifestyle that would not be favorable to having his children staying with him...

In regards to my last post, I am not necessarily referring to posters here who are minimizing Clint's lifestyle but from other forums and blogs.. it seems that he is given a pass on his actions simply because he was not the primary parent...jmo

Morning Cookie...I think people just like CD because he was upfront with his habits and situation and actually walked the streets looking for Hailey.  Unlike her own Mother! To me he's just your usual dope smoking slacker, living off the system acquired by his GF.  In his mind he thought that he would get a place where she could come live with him as she could not due to Naomi's housing situation and Clint wasn't even supposed to be there but to move you have to go get a job and a home and be able to pay the rent!  Don't think Clint did anything to help himself help Hailey.  At least (maybe to him)he thought being so close he was able to keep an eye on her.  I think we all really believe he loved and cared for her but you and I would go to the end of the earth for our children.  I would not stop until I had Hailey back with me under one roof and I know you would be the same way.  I must admit I don't think CD is very bright but I only wish he would have thrown out BD and SA and took the house back for Hailey and her stepsis.  Im sure he meant well just never followed through with anything.  I really think that Clint might have bought or done drugs with BD or SA or with their knowledge of and if Clint was to want the home back Bille would have made up stories and called HRS and 911 on him.  You can't win or get ahead with people that will play that dirty with you.  Not fair but it happens and it's a situation Clint put himself in!  I guess we like him because he is just the lesser of two evils!

I think you may be interpreting it wrong Magnolia & Starwyn. I think (note think) that bc Peter just copied & pasted, the rap sheet & codes/descriptions just dropped some lines. If he would have taken a screen capture or picture of the record, then we could see it context and graph spaces, etc.

This is what I think it means (I'm only copying & pasting the questionable section):
Snipped:
Release Type PARL
Release Date Jan 13 2003
Release County BEXAR
Legal County MITCHELL
Warrant Number
Warrant Date
Offense Count

001 Off of Record
3531 3G Offender
Violent Offender
Sex Offender

0 VOP Offender
0 Sentence Length
00190000
Discharge Date Dec 6 2019
Offenses

Now here's my interpretation in capital bold:
Release Type PAROLE
Release Date JANUARY 13, 2003
Release County BEXAR
Legal County MITCHELL
Warrant Number
Warrant Date
Offense Count 001 COUNT

Off of Record 3531 3G
Offender VIOLENT OFFENDER
Sex Offender 0

VOP Offender 0
Sentence Length 00190000
Discharge Date DECEMBER 6, 2019

Further to my interpretation, 3531 = Cocaine-Smuggle and the fact that it's a 3G shows maybe there was a weapon involved or something else, like maybe the amount or a break-in of some sort. Here's a link to NCIC offense codes:
http://wi-recordcheck.org/help/ncicoffensecodes.htm

Thanks Klaas

Does this site reveal when he was arrested and what was the charge?

Janet

I agree with you melis. I will say that I am very happy Clint turned himself in and do see hope that he can turn his life around. It does seem as though this whole ordeal has become a wakeup call for him. It's sad and a definite injustice has been brought to Hailey, but I still think something positive could come out of this even if she is found deceased.  Don't get me wrong, I do think her surrounding immediate family have done her wrong with the lifestyles they were/are living, but there is always time for change. I see Clint as taking steps in the right direction. I don't see the same with Billie. From my perspective, Billie and Shawn both are poi, no matter the statement that Billie is not a suspect (or however it was worded) - the police can say whatever they want in order to get info regarding a crime. The more BJD opens her mouth, the more she can be studied. Everything coming out of her mouth leave most of us thinking "Huh? What? Uhhh duhhh da-da-duh-dum." and makes us question her even more than we did in the beginning. I'm curious what DDD knows or thinks.

I'm also curious why Billie admitted to purchasing illegal narcotics but hasn't been arrested yet. Could it be because she resides in Mitchell County but the purchase was in Scurry County? I guess that would mean that tthe CCity PD don't have jurisdiction? It's in an affidavit and warrant, can;t that be used against Billie and Shawn for police to arrest? Or could they be holding back in case it's part of a crime committed to Hailey? If it is part of whatever happened to Hailey, then they'd have to wait to presecute on a drug charge or they wouldn;t be able to bring it into the criminal charge for whatever happened to Hailey - if in fact they truly are involved & drugs were/are part of it all. I think?

Thanks Cookie.

I believe that in her short life both of Hailey's parents let her down big time.

Janet

Gosh, me too. What is it with poor towns and drugs? I just don;t get it, Janet. You;d think people would want to be better and move up and out. It's almost as if these children are being brought up to be "used to this stuff", therefore becoming immune to it all, or numb. I just don;t get it. I'd never in my life do drugs to take away anything. I'd never in my life even think of selling drugs bc I needed more money - not even to feed my children and I mean that!

Something else - It was said that Hailey attended church. Who did she go to church with and why haven't we heard her pastor/reverend/priest speak on her behalf?

I agree with the posts received since my last post in regards to Clint..and I also agree that we like Clint better since he seems to be the lesser of two evils.  Both parents could have done better.jmo

Brian Glasco is in Harris County jail.

In jail for what Titch?

I agree as well, both parents could have done better, and now it appears it is too late to change any of that  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I wouldn't want to have the personal Hell that must be going through their minds and will always be going through their minds.

As of today's date, he is still in custody.

(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss80/_Titch_/Hailey%20Dunn/bgarrested.jpg)

I think they are both in jail (Clint & Brian) based on what was released with the marijuana, etc.

You can get this info by doing a search on www.vinelink.com
If I post the link after the search, it will expire and not show up and you'll have to redo your search. Just go to that link & do an offender search. Put in first & last name. When searching Clint's name, 3 more hits show, but they are from when he was arrested for the bud le found when searching for Hailey. Le (or whomever put in his data) has his birth date year wrong, though...

Yep Rosie..it appears to be too late for Hailey, but hopefully the parents will make a better life for the other kids..time will tell

Titch. Thanks for that link..does that work for any state?


Also,I did question to myself that CD was 39 hrs old..

Here is the general VineLink site:
https://www.vinelink.com/vinelink/initMap.do

You just click on the state you want to search...

This is one of the easiest search sites to use. IMO, it doesn;t give as much info as other sites do, and sometimes info shows up later instead of almost immediate like county sites do, but the info still shows up rather quickly and it's all in one spot to make it easier.

Thanks Titch..I bookmarked it looked around on it.... ::MonkeyKiss::

Could the statute of limitations have run out on the videotaped drug use or Shawn, his cousin, & their friends? How long ago were the videos? 2 years?

Thanks Titch

Is there a Hailey connection?  Is it a drug connection?

Janet

++++++


Hailey Dunn: Billie Jean Dunn Radio Interview Feb 7: Transcription

<snipped>

Is there a person that threatened, has threatened you and Hailey at all?

I’m not supposed to name anybody, but investigators asked me if I knew this person had threatened me and Hailey. I told them, “No, I hadn’t heard anything about it until just now when investigators are just now telling me.

I wonder if you could elaborate on that for me please?

I don’t know what all I can say. I would love to. Investigators just asked me if I knew this person had threatened mine and Hailey’s life. I told him, “No.” I had no idea. It’s somebody that’s kind of close to the family. He had got, gotten lost doing drugs. The kids told me, “This isn’t the same person we knew before. He’s crazy now.”, and he told, he told somebody he would like to smack me and Hailey in the head with a hammer for calling CPS on him.

We called CPS on him, something that Hailey told me.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/billie-jean-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-february-7-transcription/

According to Northern Rose ... the video of Brian and Clint getting high was December, 2009 ... a little over a year ago.

Janet

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Northern Rose
Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 -
« Reply #643 on: February 09, 2011, 01:44:29 AM »

Meet Brian Glasco aka freaker13 and his video of Clint and him getting high posted 31 Dec 2009

http://www.myspace.com/freaker13/videos

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9372.msg1302296#msg1302296

I just went to case signal's site. She's on the ball and has both Clint & Brian vinelink info. She also gives an article informing Clint's arrest stems from driving with an expired license...etc. I'd bet it was more than that, but ya never know.

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/02/17/hailey-dunn-clinton-dunn-and-brian-glasco-jailed/

Also, here's the link to the article I was just talking about:
http://www.newswest9.com/Global/story.asp?S=14049448

Snip:
The Scurry County Jail tells NewsWest9 that the 33-year-old was arrested Tuesday for an expired driver's license and backing without safety.

What is backing without safety?  Why would they put him in jail for an expired drivers license instead of fining him?

When all is said and done ... I do believe that it was a deceased barefooted Hailey who was taken from her bed by Shawn Atkins between 6:35 AM and 6:56 AM on the morning of December 27th wearing only a short sleeved T-shirt and blue sweats.

Janet

++++

December 27th: 6:35 AM - 6:56 AM

Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 2:17 pm CST January 12, 2011

<snipped>

One inconsistency in Adkins’ statements involved his employment on Dec. 27. Adkins told investigators that he was fired that day, but authorities contacted the employer, who said that Adkins was a good employee and that he hadn’t been fired.

Nevertheless, Adkins left his place of employment at 6:10 a.m. on the morning of Dec. 27 and told investigators that he went straight to his mother’s house in Big Spring. However, cell phone records indicate that Adkins’ cell phone was in contact with cell towers in the Colorado City area from 6:35 a.m. until 6:56 a.m., during the time when he said he was traveling to Big Spring.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


It was Cold Outside

Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's DisappearanceBy Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 2:17 pm CST January 12, 2011

<snipped>

Law enforcement officials detailed what Hailey left behind at her home: cash, a toothbrush, hairbrush, contact solution, a new MP3 player – and a jacket that friends say she would not have left home without.

The weather was cold outside, but Adkins said he last saw Hailey leaving without the jacket and the personal items.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


Tennis Shoes Found

Efforts continue to find Hailey Dunn
Posted January 5, 2011 - 10:43am

<snipped>

“She didn’t take any shoes or boots,” Dunn said. Originally, she thought Hailey was wearing tennis shoes but discovered them in her daughter’s room. “It was cold and she was wearing flip flops. It’s what scares me the most.”

<snipped>

http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/2011/01/efforts-continue-find-hailey-dunn


Updated AMW Missing Persons Alert

AMW Case

Hailey Darlene Dunn

<snipped>

Police say Hailey Darlene Dunn is a student and cheerleader at Colorado City Middle School. They say the 13-year-old girl was last seen wearing navy blue sweatpants, a short-sleeved light-colored T-shirt, flip flops and red hoop earrings. They say Hailey’s upper left ear is also pierced, and she stands at 5 feet 1 inch tall and weighs around 120 pounds. She has hazel eyes and light brown hair with blond highlights.

<snipped>

http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=76136

Could it be that Clint did not have the means to pay a fine?

Janet

++++++

Hailey Dunn's Father Arrested on Outstanding Warrant
Posted: Feb 17, 2011 8:04 AM PST

SNYDER - Missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn's father, Clint Dunn, has been arrested on an outstanding warrant.

The Scurry County Jail tells NewsWest9 that the 33-year-old was arrested Tuesday for an expired driver's license and backing without safety.

Dunn is still in jail at this time.

<snipped>

http://www.newswest9.com/Global/story.asp?S=14049448

When I consider the lifetime financial consequences to others if an uninsured Clint should be the cause an accident ... I do not consider driving without a license a mere misdemeanor.  IMO.

In regard to so many aspects of Clint's lifestyle ... the conequences of his actions for himself as well as how his actions will affect others are not a consideration.

Unless it was a life and death situation ... how many on this forum would get behind the wheel of a vehicle without insurance ... without a valid driving license?

Janet

But she didn't, so we have the luxury of being a little more apt to believe him than BD.

::MonkeyShocked::

Thanks Magnolia. This is WOW! The Cecilia thing has bothered me since the beginning. The dogs leading to MB's doorstep hasn't really been explained that I remember.

Early on, a poster at WS had said some things about "knowing/meeting Cecilia" and that Cecilia scared the crappola out of her.I tried to go back and find that post, but I can't search there because I am not a member and don't want to be a member there. I looked all day yesterday for the post. It may have been deleted or put in a hiding spot... I did see the poster had been put on a timeout recently. Does, anyone here that reads there, remember seeing this? Anyone here able to search there? I know I need a link and I will continue looking, so I do apologize as it is only hearsay and the poster was told not to bash MB's mother/family. I do think the MB/Cecilia thing needs to be looked into further. It just sort of seemed like M'B's mother was trying to stay under the radar, but why? I could come up with several good reasons (as a mother) why she would stay out of it,  but I was just surprised we didn't see a little more than we did from Cecilia.
 
I also wonder where the "outcry" from the Colorado City community is? We have seen very little from the locals. Are people afraid of retaliation from someone?

I have to go sit with my sons class, but I will be back later.

OK then that would explain why I can't find her on any of the searches by name or otherwise.  Thank you!

They're jailed in two separate counties.  CD is being said to be there on the charges of driving without a license.  I suspect he didn't show up to court, thus had a warrant, and would rather just go in (as his mother Connie was reporting he volunteered) because the police and everyone knew he would be at the big search this weekend.  How horrible would it be to be there and have the police show up and drag you away?  Better to go in, serve the time and get extra credit because you volunteered it, and get your warrant over with.  It's certainly the more honest way.  And quicker.  And less expensive.

I sure would be!  I would call the police, beg that they keep it anonymous, as there's really no need to state things publicly. 

Sorry for the late reply-I have been swamped at work, sick lil man at home..........by home I man in heaven.

Here's what I'm leaning towards...

I'm thinking Clint had an outstanding warrant for failure to appear in court or pay fines related to "driving with an expired license" and "backing without safety". Since Clint needs to search in Scurry County for Hailey, he needed to turn himself in for his outstanding warrant. Alot of places across the US acknowledge President's Day Weekend as having off on Friday and Monday, so they tend to cram court schedules before those dates. Because Clint has a shaded past, they kept him instead of letting him go, bc it would be hard to believe he would come back on his own recognizance. I tend to think he ignored his fine.

Backing Without Safety can be a number of scenarios, including reverse lights out, no rear/sideview mirrors, backing up too fast, etc. It mostly has to do with truckers or box trucks backing up without a spotter.

Titch

When I considered both arrests ... the revealed Youtube video of Clint and Brian getting high together crossed my mind also.

Janet

+++++

First of all Cookie I thouht Connie stated she told Clint once Hailey disappeared and not before, I will ask again when  can and I am uncertain when he knew what about what was going on, no doubt she should have been out of the house but if nobody would go on record, it is virtually impossible to go to court and change custody

.....and he let Billie stay in the house which he didn't have to, so he could have booted her out and that might have looked like a more stable enviroment for a child to live in a home vs subsidized housing. I undstand he has done pot for sure but he was open about his use even if he wasn't about the reason, then I get PO'd when I realize that they both SA and BD admitted buying drugs yet no arrest, and Billie illegally gave Shawn her ativan a few times she admits, twice she states before the LDT and he took them which is also illegal.

Think back to how Desiree wanted to get cutody of Kyron but she didn't nd prolly the same reason, extremely hard to reverse once it is set, yet she knew he was no happy and was having problems in school, but she didn't know what went on in that house such as the drinking and passing out a few nights a week and the hatred we heard about.

I think how Crystal wanted to get Jr out of the house of Ron and couldn't.....sad indeed

More to your exact question Cookie, she did not disappear on his watch so we don't excuse it as much as it doesn't appear to be as much an issue as Billie's ......aka "my house" as she likes to all it.

Does anyone know if there was an outstanding warrant on Brian, too? Could these respective counties have done a warrant sweep? Sometimes, when counties get together to generate revenue, the share outstanding warrant info and all work together to generate a successful sweep on outstanding fines and/or warrants. In a state the size of Texas, I can see them doing this. NJ does it, especially when getting into the Newark area, bc it's a big city with alot of unpaid fines.

For those that don't realize, and to put it all into perspective:
Unpaid Fines = Warrant For Arrest.

I tend to think there's more to the arrest and the video that Brian had on his MySpace profile.

I'm still wondering about Shawn, Corey & their friends on video doing drugs. Has the statute of limitations run out? When were those videos shot? I thought Corey had some uploaded to his YouTube a/c, before it was deleted, in 2009 & 2010. Were they from 2008? Klaas, maybe you'll know?

Hailey Dunn's father turns himself in
Posted February 17, 2011 at 12:42 p.m.
Updated February 17, 2011 at 12:42 p.m.

Clint Dunn, the father of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, who has been missing since Dec. 28, was jailed in Scurry County after turning himself in on three charges.

Clint Dunn, 33, told the Reporter-News that he planned to go “sit out a few days in jail,” so he could be credited for some fines associated with probation violation and several warrants.

Dunn turned himself in at the Scurry County Jail on Feb. 15 for a county court commitment. According to jail officials the current charges include a probation violation for possession of marijuana, expired drivers license and unsafe backing.

The charges are not associated in any way with his daughter’s case, who has been missing for almost two months.

“He is getting out in the morning,” said his girlfriend Naomi Stewart. “He thought it would be a good place to be alone and think.”

Officials at the Scurry County Jail would not confirm when Clint Dunn was to be released, but said he was “almost finished” serving his time.

<snipped>

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/feb/17/hailey-dunns-father-turns-himself/

Bold by me and Thank you Janet!

Connie Jones - I suspect that you may read here. Please tell your son that several of us are proud of him for taking a step in the right direction. He faced this head on when he could have left the state and walked away from it all. He wants to legally search for his daughter and is doing the right thing now. There are several people in his corner that are wishing him and his family well. I personally feel as though it's never too late to change for the better. Keeping hopes up...

Another side note: Jail is a very good place to pick up tips.

I am not surprised about the lack of outcry from locals in Ccity after what locals told me, reminded me of when ppl came to search for HaLeigh Cummings and the response they got, breaks my heart as both were precious, innocent children who couldn't help all the background noise in their lives :(

While we might agree in most aspects that someone's lifestyle might have no consideration how it would affect others, there are distinctions to be made in others & should not be painted with such a broad brush.

I'll own up to something some may be rather shocked over both due to my general character & past work-related background but this very responsible & law abiding citizen suffered a few major temporary financial slumps as a single mother of two often as millions do.   On one of those occasions I could not pay my car insurance for 1 1/2 months but yet I had to get to work & tend to my childrens' needs so during that time when I had no choice with other transportation options I had to drive.   It wasnt ideal & was rather nerve racking for me personally but necessity dictated taking the risk for that brief period of time on that one occasion.    My children's immediate vital needs & the fact that I had to earn income for the three of us overruled what the law states or the minimal risk I took if I were to get in an accident temporarily.   There is a distinction from a situation such as this versus an individual who has no regard for the law or others.

Some may ridicule that decision, so be it...but I never sat on my rear making excuses or cried me my own river, I did what I had to do to get up and over a setback for the overall well-being of my children, secondarily myself.   Should I be considered a criminal, or an individual with poor judgment or negligent parent now?  Suffice it to say, God help the person that attempts it because the wrath will be unmerciful.

There are so many uninsured motorists nationwide, for various reasons...most of which happen to be bc insurance rates are ridiculously high. NJ has the highest rate in the country, and it wouldn't surprise me if NJ has the highest uninsured motorist rate to coincide with that as well. I drove for almost a month with expired insurance bc my check bounced (after my 2 oldest boys' father & I split up). When thinking of what Janet just said - let me tell you Capp, that we split up right after Christmas about 12 years ago, I used his car to go shopping at Toys R Us on my lunch break at work (we both worked at the same place), I was in a car accident (the other driver's fault) - the lady totalled my ex's car & I was pretty scraped up, guess what? He let his insurance lapse on his car and I had no idea at all. I was the one fined bc I shouldn't have been on the road. It was the other lady's fault completely and I was charged bc I was on the road when I wasn;t supposed to be. I assumed my ex was covered, etc. I assumed wrong. It's no excuse and I felt bad about it - it'll never happen again. I'll never drive unless insured ever again.

Side note: I wouldn't even let my son get his permit bc his grades weren't good. He thought I was playing - he learned the hard way. Now he just turned 17 and I refused to give him a car for his birthday. He was supposed to get mine & I was buying a new car. Not happening now. He needs to earn it himself. He's learning a tough lesson but it'll be worth it in the long run.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=343316

Webcast: Candlelight Vigil for Hailey Dunn on Saturday

Video at the link above

Isn't Hailey still missing????? And yet,her father is being arrested on outstanding warrants??
Is Clint a flight risk?? I think not....Why now is he being arrested??me thinks that the LE can better spend their time looking for this man's child....call me crazy...Why aren't SA and BD being looked at harder by LE????

Thank you, Klaas. A great way to spread awareness would be to supply this link in a text on your phone & send it to your contact list. That is what I am doing...right...now.

BBL.

Capp

Considering it was not a life and death situation ... unless I were in a position to assume full financial responsibility if I caused an accident which resulted in serious injuries to myself and/or others ... I do not believe I have a moral or legal right to get behind that wheel.  Driving without a license and driving without insurance would not have been an option.

Nevetheless ... when you think about aspects of Clint Dunn's ongong selfish choices in life that disregarded rules/laws ... disregarded consequences that would prevent him from gaining custody of Hailey ... a mindset exists that I do not comprehend.

Was custody of Hailey not worth doing what had to be done to quit his drug habit.  The resulting criminal record that kept getting longer and ... in all probability ... prevented him from acquiring employment ... implied that Hailey's desire to live with him was never going to happen.

When you consider the following Youtube video ... was Clint moving heaven and earth to do what had to be done to gain custody of his precious daughter ... his precious daughter who had been threatened by Shawn ... his precious daughter who according to his own mother was scared of Shawn.

My focus is Hailey.  Clint and Billie did not deserve the blessing the God has given them.

Janet


   

(Continued)

Northern Rose
Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 -
« Reply #643 on: February 09, 2011, 01:44:29 AM »

Meet Brian Glasco aka freaker13 and his video of Clint and him getting high posted 31 Dec 2009

http://www.myspace.com/freaker13/videos

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9372.msg1302296#msg1302296

Yup, Jersey is the highest & that's where I resided all my life until a few years ago.  I felt badly too but necessity dictated it temporarily at the time, never happened again & I wouldnt recommend it by any means but it sure does not reflect who I am as a person in total or lumps me in a percentage of society who doesnt give a dang what their actions or behavior causes others.

According to a littlebird that lives around the corner from Billie, she has a visitor today ::MonkeyWink:: So far she has been right about everything, she lives around the corner and had another friend that can see Billie's hous kinda like Anthony Cam......

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=14419&id=1038523905#!/home.php?sk=group_186816348005318&notif_t=group_activity

He's been at Billie's in the red sports car and still there last they checked

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 (me - looks like cocaing maybe??......Offenses Under the Health and Safety Code

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TRS

 

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PC

 

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Agency

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none found

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31.03(E)(2)(AII)

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PC

 

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APO

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none found

 

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31.03(E)(2)(AII)

Statute Code

PC

 

Court Provisions

 

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4684746 Date of Arrest

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A Tracking Incident Number

 

Arresting Agency

JONES CO SO ANSON

 

TRS

 

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5078098 TRS/TRN ID

*001

 

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none found

Prosecutor ORI Referred To

 

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Arrested Charge

 

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APO

Agency Literal

 

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none found Domestic Violence Involved

 

none found

 

Court Charge Reason

 

Offense Code

54040000 Offense Description

DRIVING UNDER INFLUENCE LIQUOR Level and Degree of Offense

 

none found Statute Citation of Disposed Offense

 

Statute Code

 

 

Court Provisions

 

none found

 

TRN ID No.

4684759 Date of Arrest

Aug 2 2004 Sequence Code

A Tracking Incident Number

005764022X

Arresting Agency

HALTOM CITY PD

 

TRS

 

TRS ID No.

5078109 TRS/TRN ID

A001

 

Offense Detail

 

Date of Offense

Aug 2 2004 Agency ID

Internal Agency Person Number

34358 Arrest Offense (Numeric)

35990014

Action Related to Offense

 

none found Level and Degree of Offense

FELONY - STATE JAIL FELONY Date of Disposition Immediate to Arrest

Aug 2 2004 Arrest Disposition

HELD

Prosecutor ORI Referred To

DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FORT WORTH Arrest Offense Literal

Arrest Disposition Literal

Agency Case Number

 

Domestic Violence Involved

 

none found

 

Arrested Charge

 

Offense Code

35990014 Offense Description

POSS CS PG 1 < 1G Level and Degree of Offense

FELONY - STATE JAIL FELONY Statute Citation of Disposed Offense

481.115(b)

Statute Code

HSC

 

Prosecution

 

Agency

DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FORT WORTH Prosecutor Action Filed

PROSECUTOR ACCEPTS THE CHARGE Prosecutor Offense Code

35990014 Date of Activity by Prosecutor

 

Level and Degree of Prosecuted Offense

FS Title of Offense Prosecuted

Action Related to Offense

 

none found Domestic Violence Involved

 

none found

Prosecution ID

486233 TRS ID

5078109

 

Prosecutor Charged

 

Offense Code

35990014 Offense Description

POSS CS PG 1 < 1G Level and Degree of Offense

FELONY - STATE JAIL FELONY Statute Citation of Disposed Offense

481.115(b)

Statute Code

HSC

 

Court Status

 

Court Sequence

a Agency

CRIM DISTRICT CRT OF TARRANT CO #2 FORT WORTH Court Offense

35990014 Court Disposition

CONVICTED

Court Offense Literal

Action Related to Offense

 

none found Level and Degree of Offense

FELONY - STATE JAIL FELONY Cause Number

0943153001

Date of Sentencing

Sep 21 2004 Final Pleading

GUILTY Court Provision Literal

Court Provision (Numeric)

 

Court Provision (Decoded)

 

none found Date of Judicial Disposition

Sep 21 2004 Amount of Time Suspended by Court

Amount of Fine Suspended by Court

 

Court Confinement

006M Time on Probation

Court Fine

Court Cost Imposed

 

Date of Appeal

Disposition of Offender During Appeal

 

none found Final Court Decision

 

none found Agency ID

STATE JAIL FACILITY

Agency Literal

 

none found Sentence Concurrent/Consecutive

 

none found Domestic Violence Involved

 

none found

 

Court Charge Reason

 

Offense Code

35990014 Offense Description

POSS CS PG 1 < 1G Level and Degree of Offense

FELONY - STATE JAIL FELONY Statute Citation of Disposed Offense

481.115(b)

Statute Code

HSC

 

Court Provisions

 

none found

 

TRN ID No.

4684749 Date of Arrest

Nov 25 1988 Sequence Code

A Tracking Incident Number

 

Arresting Agency

JONES CO SO ANSON

 

TRS

 

TRS ID No.

5078102 TRS/TRN ID

*001

 

Offense Detail

 

Date of Offense

Agency ID

Internal Agency Person Number

318 Arrest Offense (Numeric)

35003333

Action Related to Offense

 

none found Level and Degree of Offense

 

none found Date of Disposition Immediate to Arrest

Arrest Disposition

BAIL/RELEASED ON OWN RECOGNIZANCE

Prosecutor ORI Referred To

 

none found Arrest Offense Literal

Arrest Disposition Literal

Agency Case Number

 

Domestic Violence Involved

 

none found

 

Arrested Charge

 

Offense Code

35003333 Offense Description

MAN/DEL/SELL/POSS CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE Level and Degree of Offense

FELONY - UNCLASSIFIED DEGREE Statute Citation of Disposed Offense

GENERAL TEXT

Statute Code

HSC

 

Prosecution

 

none found

 

Court Status

 

Court Sequence

a Agency

 

none found Court Offense

35003333 Court Disposition

CONVICTED

Court Offense Literal

Action Related to Offense

 

none found Level and Degree of Offense

 

none found Cause Number

 

Date of Sentencing

Final Pleading

 

none found Court Provision Literal

Court Provision (Numeric)

 

Court Provision (Decoded)

 

none found Date of Judicial Disposition

Amount of Time Suspended by Court

Amount of Fine Suspended by Court

 

Court Confinement

12Y Time on Probation

Court Fine

Court Cost Imposed

 

Date of Appeal

Disposition of Offender During Appeal

 

none found Final Court Decision

 

none found Agency ID

 

Agency Literal

 

none found Sentence Concurrent/Consecutive

CONCURRENT Domestic Violence Involved

 

none found

 

Court Charge Reason

 

Offense Code

35003333 Offense Description

MAN/DEL/SELL/POSS CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE Level and Degree of Offense

FELONY - UNCLASSIFIED DEGREE Statute Citation of Disposed Offense

GENERAL TEXT

Statute Code

HSC

 

Court Provisions

 

none found

 

TRN ID No.

4684754 Date of Arrest

Mar 15 1997 Sequence Code

A Tracking Incident Number

0019485441

Arresting Agency

TARRANT CO SO FORT WORTH

 

TRS

 

TRS ID No.

5078105 TRS/TRN ID

A001

 

Offense Detail

 

Date of Offense

Jul 4 1996 Agency ID

Internal Agency Person Number

0236340 Arrest Offense (Numeric)

23990033

Action Related to Offense

 

none found Level and Degree of Offense

MISDEMEANOR - CLASS B Date of Disposition Immediate to Arrest

Mar 15 1997 Arrest Disposition

HELD

Prosecutor ORI Referred To

DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FORT WORTH Arrest Offense Literal

Arrest Disposition Literal

Agency Case Number

 

Domestic Violence Involved

 

none found

 

Arrested Charge

 

Offense Code

23990033 Offense Description

THEFT PROP >=$20 <$500 BY CHECK Level and Degree of Offense

MISDEMEANOR - CLASS B Statute Citation of Disposed Offense

31.03(E)(2)(AII)

Statute Code

PC

 

Prosecution

 

Agency

DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FORT WORTH Prosecutor Action Filed

PROSECUTOR ACCEPTS THE CHARGE Prosecutor Offense Code

23990033 Date of Activity by Prosecutor

 

Level and Degree of Prosecuted Offense

MB Title of Offense Prosecuted

Action Related to Offense

 

none found Domestic Violence Involved

 

none found

Prosecution ID

486229 TRS ID

5078105

 

Prosecutor Charged

 

Offense Code

23990033 Offense Description

THEFT PROP >=$20 <$500 BY CHECK Level and Degree of Offense

MISDEMEANOR - CLASS B Statute Citation of Disposed Offense

31.03(E)(2)(AII)

Statute Code

PC

 

Court Status

 

Court Sequence

a Agency

COUNTY CRIMINAL COURT #2 FORT WORTH Court Offense

23990033 Court Disposition

CONVICTED

Court Offense Literal

Action Related to Offense

 

none found Level and Degree of Offense

MISDEMEANOR - CLASS B Cause Number

0634032

Date of Sentencing

Sep 2 1998 Final Pleading

GUILTY Court Provision Literal

Court Provision (Numeric)

 

Court Provision (Decoded)

 

none found Date of Judicial Disposition

Sep 2 1998 Amount of Time Suspended by Court

Amount of Fine Suspended by Court

 

Court Confinement

30D Time on Probation

Court Fine

Court Cost Imposed

217

Date of Appeal

Disposition of Offender During Appeal

 

none found Final Court Decision

 

none found Agency ID

TX2200000

Agency Literal

TARRANT CO SO FORT WORTH Sentence Concurrent/Consecutive

 

none found Domestic Violence Involved

 

none found

 

Court Charge Reason

 

Offense Code

23990033 Offense Description

THEFT PROP >=$20 <$500 BY CHECK Level and Degree of Offense

MISDEMEANOR - CLASS B Statute Citation of Disposed Offense

31.03(E)(2)(AII)

Statute Code

PC

 

Court Provisions

 

none found

 

TRN ID No.

4684755 Date of Arrest

May 20 1994 Sequence Code

A Tracking Incident Number

0008898650

Arresting Agency

PARKER CO SO WEATHERFORD

 

TRS

 

TRS ID No.

5078104 TRS/TRN ID

A001

 

Offense Detail

 

Date of Offense

May 9 1993 Agency ID

Internal Agency Person Number

0339635 Arrest Offense (Numeric)

23000019

Action Related to Offense

 

none found Level and Degree of Offense

MISDEMEANOR - CLASS B Date of Disposition Immediate to Arrest

May 20 1994 Arrest Disposition

HELD

Prosecutor ORI Referred To

DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FORT WORTH Arrest Offense Literal

Arrest Disposition Literal

Agency Case Number

 

Domestic Violence Involved

 

none found

 

Arrested Charge

 

Offense Code

23000019 Offense Description

THEFT >= $20 BUT < $200 BY CHECK Level and Degree of Offense

MISDEMEANOR - CLASS B Statute Citation of Disposed Offense

31.03(a)

Statute Code

PC

 

Prosecution

 

Agency

DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FORT WORTH Prosecutor Action Filed

PROSECUTOR ACCEPTS THE CHARGE Prosecutor Offense Code

23000019 Date of Activity by Prosecutor

 

Level and Degree of Prosecuted Offense

MB Title of Offense Prosecuted

Action Related to Offense

 

none found Domestic Violence Involved

 

none found

Prosecution ID

486230 TRS ID

5078104

 

Prosecutor Charged

 

Offense Code

23000019 Offense Description

THEFT >= $20 BUT < $200 BY CHECK Level and Degree of Offense

MISDEMEANOR - CLASS B Statute Citation of Disposed Offense

31.03(a)

Statute Code

PC

 

Court Status

 

Court Sequence

a Agency

COUNTY CRIMINAL COURT 7 FORT WORTH Court Offense

23000019 Court Disposition

CONVICTED

Court Offense Literal

Action Related to Offense

 

none found Level and Degree of Offense

MISDEMEANOR - CLASS B Cause Number

0528162

Date of Sentencing

May 27 1994 Final Pleading

GUILTY Court Provision Literal

Court Provision (Numeric)

 

Court Provision (Decoded)

 

none found Date of Judicial Disposition

May 27 1994 Amount of Time Suspended by Court

Amount of Fine Suspended by Court

 

Court Confinement

24D Time on Probation

Court Fine

Court Cost Imposed

 

Date of Appeal

Disposition of Offender During Appeal

 

none found Final Court Decision

 

none found Agency ID

TX2200000

Agency Literal

TARRANT CO SO FORT WORTH Sentence Concurrent/Consecutive

 

none found Domestic Violence Involved

 

none found

 

Court Charge Reason

 

Offense Code

23000019 Offense Description

THEFT >= $20 BUT < $200 BY CHECK Level and Degree of Offense

MISDEMEANOR - CLASS B Statute Citation of Disposed Offense

31.03(a)

Statute Code

PC

 

Court Provisions

 

none found

 

Custody

 

Date of Offense

Nov 25 1988 Agency Identifier

PARDON AND PAROLE BOARD AUSTIN County of Commitment

JONES Custody Status Starting Date

Nov 4 2005

Status Supervision

MANDATORY RELEASE Status Supervision Literal

TX227015G 00524678 Agency Receiving Custody Upon Release

PARKER Paroled Until Date

Jun 28 2007

Sentence Expiration Date

Jun 28 2007 Custody Entry ID No.

2654565 Tracking Number

 

 

Date of Offense

Feb 4 1987 Agency Identifier

DEPT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE HUNTSVILLE County of Commitment

 

none found Custody Status Starting Date

Feb 17 1987

Status Supervision

RECEIVED Status Supervision Literal

Agency Receiving Custody Upon Release

 

none found Paroled Until Date

 

Sentence Expiration Date

Custody Entry ID No.

995176 Tracking Number

 

 

Date of Offense

Feb 4 1987 Agency Identifier

DEPT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE HUNTSVILLE County of Commitment

 

none found Custody Status Starting Date

May 13 1987

Status Supervision

PAROLED Status Supervision Literal

TO TARRANT COUNTY UNTIL 01-28-1990 Agency Receiving Custody Upon Release

 

none found Paroled Until Date

Jan 28 1990

Sentence Expiration Date

Custody Entry ID No.

995177 Tracking Number

 

 

Date of Offense

Feb 4 1987 Agency Identifier

DEPT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE HUNTSVILLE County of Commitment

 

none found Custody Status Starting Date

Apr 18 1988

Status Supervision

PAROLE REVOCATION Status Supervision Literal

Agency Receiving Custody Upon Release

 

none found Paroled Until Date

 

Sentence Expiration Date

Custody Entry ID No.

995178 Tracking Number

 

 

Date of Offense

Feb 4 1987 Agency Identifier

DEPT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE HUNTSVILLE County of Commitment

 

none found Custody Status Starting Date

May 17 1988

Status Supervision

RECEIVED Status Supervision Literal

RET PAR VIOL NO NEW CHARGE FR TARRANT COUNTY Agency Receiving Custody Upon Release

 

none found Paroled Until Date

 

Sentence Expiration Date

Custody Entry ID No.

995179 Tracking Number

 

 

Date of Offense

Feb 4 1987 Agency Identifier

DEPT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE HUNTSVILLE County of Commitment

 

none found Custody Status Starting Date

Jun 24 1988

Status Supervision

PAROLED Status Supervision Literal

MAND SUPV TO JONES COUNTY UNTIL 12-11-1990 Agency Receiving Custody Upon Release

 

none found Paroled Until Date

Dec 11 1990

Sentence Expiration Date

Custody Entry ID No.

995180 Tracking Number

 

 

Date of Offense

Feb 4 1987 Agency Identifier

DEPT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE HUNTSVILLE County of Commitment

 

none found Custody Status Starting Date

Aug 4 1989

Status Supervision

PAROLE REVOCATION Status Supervision Literal

Agency Receiving Custody Upon Release

 

none found Paroled Until Date

 

Sentence Expiration Date

Custody Entry ID No.

995181 Tracking Number

 

 

Date of Offense

Nov 25 1988 Agency Identifier

PARDON AND PAROLE BOARD AUSTIN County of Commitment

JONES Custody Status Starting Date

Oct 20 1989

Status Supervision

RECEIVED Status Supervision Literal

TX236065C DCJ524678 Agency Receiving Custody Upon Release

 

none found Paroled Until Date

 

Sentence Expiration Date

Jan 30 2007 Custody Entry ID No.

995182 Tracking Number

 

 

Date of Offense

Nov 25 1988 Agency Identifier

PARDON AND PAROLE BOARD AUSTIN County of Commitment

JONES Custody Status Starting Date

Aug 20 1990

Status Supervision

PAROLED Status Supervision Literal

TX227015G DCJ524678 Agency Receiving Custody Upon Release

TARRANT Paroled Until Date

Jun 8 2001

Sentence Expiration Date

Jan 30 2007 Custody Entry ID No.

995183 Tracking Number

 

 

Date of Offense

Nov 25 1988 Agency Identifier

PARDON AND PAROLE BOARD AUSTIN County of Commitment

JONES Custody Status Starting Date

Jan 24 1992

Status Supervision

PAROLE REVOCATION Status Supervision Literal

TX227015G DCJ524678 Agency Receiving Custody Upon Release

 

none found Paroled Until Date

 

Sentence Expiration Date

Jan 30 2007 Custody Entry ID No.

995184 Tracking Number

 

 

Date of Offense

Nov 25 1988 Agency Identifier

PARDON AND PAROLE BOARD AUSTIN County of Commitment

JONES Custody Status Starting Date

Jan 17 1995

Status Supervision

RECEIVED Status Supervision Literal

TX236065C 524678 Agency Receiving Custody Upon Release

 

none found Paroled Until Date

 

Sentence Expiration Date

Jan 30 2007 Custody Entry ID No.

995185 Tracking Number

 

 

Date of Offense

Nov 25 1988 Agency Identifier

PARDON AND PAROLE BOARD AUSTIN County of Commitment

JONES Custody Status Starting Date

Apr 17 2000

Status Supervision

PAROLED Status Supervision Literal

TX227015G 00524678 Agency Receiving Custody Upon Release

PARKER Paroled Until Date

Jul 13 2005

Sentence Expiration Date

Jan 30 2007 Custody Entry ID No.

995186 Tracking Number

 

 

Date of Offense

Nov 25 1988 Agency Identifier

PARDON AND PAROLE BOARD AUSTIN County of Commitment

JONES Custody Status Starting Date

Mar 5 2004

Status Supervision

MANDATORY RELEASE Status Supervision Literal

TX227015G 00524678 Agency Receiving Custody Upon Release

PARKER Paroled Until Date

Jan 30 2007

Sentence Expiration Date

Jan 30 2007 Custody Entry ID No.

995187 Tracking Number

 

 

Date of Offense

Aug 2 2004 Agency Identifier

DEPT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE HUNTSVILLE County of Commitment

TARRANT Custody Status Starting Date

Oct 26 2004

Status Supervision

PAROLE REVOCATION Status Supervision Literal

TX236065C 01257685 Agency Receiving Custody Upon Release

 none found Paroled Until Date
 
Sentence Expiration Date

Jan 27 2005 Custody Entry ID No.

995188 Tracking Number