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Title: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 - 4/05/11
Post by: MuffyBee on March 05, 2011, 06:17:53 PM
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Hailey%20Dunn%20%20-TX-/facebookLivieCain.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: klaasend on March 18, 2011, 01:31:09 AM
Goodnight all!  I hope all the activity tonight leads to Hailey.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Thunder_Sis on March 18, 2011, 01:51:06 AM
Video I recorded off of the news of Billie in jail tonight.

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1925939070809&comments


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: flutter1 on March 18, 2011, 09:18:55 AM
Video I recorded off of the news of Billie in jail tonight.

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1925939070809&comments

BJD evidently not happy about being video taped.

RAW: Billie Dunn at Mitchell County Law Enforcement Center



http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353186 (http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353186)

Officers respond by taking her back to "detox."

Body language says it all.  She is pizzzzzzed.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: flutter1 on March 18, 2011, 10:07:57 AM
An interesting bit from the BJD Support FB

Quote
About the child porn and stuff.. to have that much on one computer indicates a js exploit virus and any law enforcement with computer knowlege knows this. It's impossible for one person to download that much because it... would take years.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall)

What this person is alleging is that a virus took over the computer and downloaded all of these images without anyone's knowledge.  If I had 109,000 images of anything on my computer, I think I would become aware of it, especially if my computer was infected by a virus.

As far as it being impossible to download that many images, a GA man earlier this year was convicted of downloading over 200,000 such images. ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 10:38:02 AM
Misdemeanors?

 ::MonkeyShocked::

++++++

Billie Dunn Arrested in Mitchell County
Updated: Mar 17, 2011 8:55 PM PDT


<snipped>

Dunn was arrested by the Mitchell County Sheriff's Office and the Mitchell County District Attorney's Office. Authorities went to Billie Dunn's house in Colorado City to serve a warrant out of Howard County to search what Shawn Adkins had on him.

Dunn told authorities that Adkins wasn't at the home, but he was, and as a result Dunn was arrested.

Billie Dunn has been charged with three misdemeanors. The charges are Hindering Apprehension, Possession of a Dangerous Drug and False Report to a Police Officer.

The drug charge was for a prescription drug that was in the house that Dunn did not have a prescription for.

Dunn will go before a judge tomorrow to have a bond set.

<snipped?

http://www.kwes.com/Global/story.asp?S=14274347



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 10:41:05 AM
An interesting bit from the BJD Support FB

Quote
About the child porn and stuff.. to have that much on one computer indicates a js exploit virus and any law enforcement with computer knowlege knows this. It's impossible for one person to download that much because it... would take years.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall)

What this person is alleging is that a virus took over the computer and downloaded all of these images without anyone's knowledge.  If I had 109,000 images of anything on my computer, I think I would become aware of it, especially if my computer was infected by a virus.

As far as it being impossible to download that many images, a GA man earlier this year was convicted of downloading over 200,000 such images. ::MonkeyNoNo::



Koolaid people!!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: wildmala on March 18, 2011, 10:43:49 AM
Well, I don't know much about misdemeanors, but I'm guessing that she should be able to bail out pretty easily.  Bummer.  I would love for LE to have more time to put the pressure on.

I'm really interested in the search of SA's grandma's house.  I would love (just out of nosey-ness) to read the affadavit regarding that search warrant - but if LE needs to keep it close to get justice for Hailey, fine by me.

Praying for Hailey today....justice is a comin' girl!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 10:44:43 AM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

RAW: Billie Dunn at Mitchell County Law Enforcement Center
Friday, March 18 2011


<snipped>

KTAB's Michelle Ashworth was rolling last night as Billie Dunn was being questioned by investigators at the Mitchell County Law Enforcement Center.

In the clip, Billie Dunn appears upset that she's being taped and asked to be moved. An officer tells her she can be placed back in "detox."

Video:
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353186




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: fatcatlurker on March 18, 2011, 10:45:04 AM
Finally.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: texasmom on March 18, 2011, 10:49:49 AM
Video I recorded off of the news of Billie in jail tonight.

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1925939070809&comments

BJD evidently not happy about being video taped.

RAW: Billie Dunn at Mitchell County Law Enforcement Center



http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353186 (http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353186)

Officers respond by taking her back to "detox."

Body language says it all.  She is pizzzzzzed.

Snapshot from the video (lightened)

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353186 (http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353186)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Hailey%20Dunn/BJDArrest03172011_13.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 10:52:54 AM
Misdemeanors?

 ::MonkeyShocked::

++++++

Billie Dunn Arrested in Mitchell County
Updated: Mar 17, 2011 8:55 PM PDT


<snipped>

Dunn was arrested by the Mitchell County Sheriff's Office and the Mitchell County District Attorney's Office. Authorities went to Billie Dunn's house in Colorado City to serve a warrant out of Howard County to search what Shawn Adkins had on him.

Dunn told authorities that Adkins wasn't at the home, but he was, and as a result Dunn was arrested.

Billie Dunn has been charged with three misdemeanors. The charges are Hindering Apprehension, Possession of a Dangerous Drug and False Report to a Police Officer.

The drug charge was for a prescription drug that was in the house that Dunn did not have a prescription for.

Dunn will go before a judge tomorrow to have a bond set.

<snipped?

http://www.kwes.com/Global/story.asp?S=14274347



To clarify:

§ 38.05. HINDERING APPREHENSION OR PROSECUTION.  (a) A
person commits an offense if, with intent to hinder the arrest,
prosecution, conviction, or punishment of another for an offense
or, with intent to hinder the arrest, detention, adjudication, or
disposition of a child for engaging in delinquent conduct that
violates a penal law of the state, or with intent to hinder the
arrest of another under the authority of a warrant or capias, he:
      (1)  harbors or conceals the other;                                           
      (2)  provides or aids in providing the other with any
means of avoiding arrest or effecting escape;  or
      (3)  warns the other of impending discovery or
apprehension.               
   (b)  It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a)(3)
that the warning was given in connection with an effort to bring
another into compliance with the law.
   (c)  An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor,
except that the offense is a felony of the third degree if t
he
person who is harbored, concealed, provided with a means of
avoiding arrest or effecting escape, or warned of discovery or
apprehension is under arrest for, charged with, or convicted of a
felony, or is in custody or detention for, is alleged in a petition
to have engaged in, or has been adjudicated as having engaged in
delinquent conduct that violates a penal law of the grade of felony,
and the person charged under this section knew that the person they
harbored, concealed, provided with a means of avoiding arrest or
effecting escape, or warned of discovery or apprehension is under
arrest for, charged with, or convicted of a felony, or is in custody
or detention for, is alleged in a petition to have engaged in, or
has been adjudicated as having engaged in delinquent conduct that
violates a penal law of the grade of felony.

Texas Penal Code - Section 37.08. False Report To Peace Officer Or Law Enforcement Employee
§ 37.08. FALSE REPORT TO PEACE OFFICER OR LAW ENFORCEMENT
EMPLOYEE.  (a) A person commits an offense if, with intent to
deceive, he knowingly makes a false statement that is material to a
criminal investigation and makes the statement to:
      (1)  a peace officer conducting the investigation;  or                       
      (2)  any employee of a law enforcement agency that is
authorized by the agency to conduct the investigation and that the
actor knows is conducting the investigation.
   (b)  In this section, "law enforcement agency" has the
meaning assigned by Article 59.01, Code of Criminal Procedure.
   (c)  An offense under this section is a Class B misdemeanor.                   
http://law.onecle.com/texas/penal/38.05.00.html
Drug offenses info can be read here:

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/HS/htm/HS.481.htm


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 10:53:00 AM
cw618
Re: Hailey Dunn #9 3/05/11 -
« Reply #940 on: March 18, 2011, 03:16:39 AM »


Sec. 12.21.  CLASS A MISDEMEANOR.  An individual adjudged guilty of a Class A misdemeanor shall be punished by:(1)  a fine not to exceed $4,000;(2)  confinement in jail for a term not to exceed one year;  or(3)  both such fine and confinement.

Sec. 12.22.  CLASS B MISDEMEANOR.  An individual adjudged guilty of a Class B misdemeanor shall be punished by:(1)  a fine not to exceed $2,000;(2)  confinement in jail for a term not to exceed 180 days;  or(3)  both such fine and confinement.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/docs/PE/htm/PE.12.htm

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9511.940


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 10:54:05 AM
Good Morning Capp

Thanks for the info.

Janet



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: TexasTater on March 18, 2011, 10:55:41 AM
I'd be surprised if she's not out today, immediately seeking drugs to replace the ones removed by LE.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 11:01:50 AM
Well, I don't know much about misdemeanors, but I'm guessing that she should be able to bail out pretty easily.  Bummer.  I would love for LE to have more time to put the pressure on.

I'm really interested in the search of SA's grandma's house.  I would love (just out of nosey-ness) to read the affadavit regarding that search warrant  - but if LE needs to keep it close to get justice for Hailey, fine by me.

Praying for Hailey today....justice is a comin' girl!

Me too.

What was the justification for the search warrants for Grandma's house and Shawn's person?

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: flutter1 on March 18, 2011, 11:04:07 AM
I'd be surprised if she's not out today, immediately seeking drugs to replace the ones removed by LE.

I wonder if any restrictions can be placed on her bond.  It seems like I have seen such things but don't know how specific they can be.  I think I have seen prohibitions from carrying guns, association with felons, etc.  Can they restrict her from having contact with an individual, ie SA? ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: TexasTater on March 18, 2011, 11:13:09 AM
Well, I don't know much about misdemeanors, but I'm guessing that she should be able to bail out pretty easily.  Bummer.  I would love for LE to have more time to put the pressure on.

I'm really interested in the search of SA's grandma's house.  I would love (just out of nosey-ness) to read the affadavit regarding that search warrant  - but if LE needs to keep it close to get justice for Hailey, fine by me.

Praying for Hailey today....justice is a comin' girl!

Me too.

What was the justification for the search warrants for Grandma's house and Shawn's person?

Janet

I don't this for a fact but i read that they may have looking for some distinguishing mark on him related to something possibly seen on a video or pictures,


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 11:22:09 AM
Well, I don't know much about misdemeanors, but I'm guessing that she should be able to bail out pretty easily.  Bummer.  I would love for LE to have more time to put the pressure on.

I'm really interested in the search of SA's grandma's house.  I would love (just out of nosey-ness) to read the affadavit regarding that search warrant  - but if LE needs to keep it close to get justice for Hailey, fine by me.

Praying for Hailey today....justice is a comin' girl!

Me too.

What was the justification for the search warrants for Grandma's house and Shawn's person?

Janet

I don't this for a fact but i read that they may have looking for some distinguishing mark on him related to something possibly seen on a video or pictures,

Interesting.

Thanks

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: cw618 on March 18, 2011, 11:22:13 AM
An interesting bit from the BJD Support FB

Quote
About the child porn and stuff.. to have that much on one computer indicates a js exploit virus and any law enforcement with computer knowlege knows this. It's impossible for one person to download that much because it... would take years.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall)

What this person is alleging is that a virus took over the computer and downloaded all of these images without anyone's knowledge.  If I had 109,000 images of anything on my computer, I think I would become aware of it, especially if my computer was infected by a virus.

As far as it being impossible to download that many images, a GA man earlier this year was convicted of downloading over 200,000 such images. ::MonkeyNoNo::



im thinking, that SA could have downloaded the Bestiality files
in a shorter time than was thought, by using "u-torrent  or some
other bit torrent program, i did a search with (bestiality torrent)
and the 2nd result was see below, no link needed for you to check it
yourself,just google that term, 1000 mb = 1gb ,so this file is 8.5 gig
im sure there are prob larger files,and you can download several at
a time,ive done six at one time,they were movies,just was a little slower

question
Can I download multiple torrents at the same time with a Bit torrent (u torrent) client?
Yeah
 download 30 sometimes, big ones like 10G's
http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101028201656AAXjU2w
---------------
2nd result
Bestiality MEGAPACK Zooporn
Size 8665MB in 49 files  Category XXX

and at the bottom of the pg it listed the files in the pack,
some were mvi,and some jpg, ect.

 beginner's guide to BitTorrent
http://lifehacker.com/#!285489/a-beginners-guide-to-bittorrent

i use this one
http://www.utorrent.com/help/faq


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: TexasTater on March 18, 2011, 11:37:08 AM
Well, I don't know much about misdemeanors, but I'm guessing that she should be able to bail out pretty easily.  Bummer.  I would love for LE to have more time to put the pressure on.

I'm really interested in the search of SA's grandma's house.  I would love (just out of nosey-ness) to read the affadavit regarding that search warrant  - but if LE needs to keep it close to get justice for Hailey, fine by me.

Praying for Hailey today....justice is a comin' girl!

Me too.

What was the justification for the search warrants for Grandma's house and Shawn's person?

Janet

I don't this for a fact but i read that they may have looking for some distinguishing mark on him related to something possibly seen on a video or pictures,

Interesting.

Thanks

Janet

My posting was horrid. I didn't mean to leave out words. I'm sitting here paying bills, reading this and emailing back and forth with my daughter about keeping the grandchildren this weekend.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: TexasTater on March 18, 2011, 11:46:23 AM
Per KTAB
Billie Dunn has been arraigned -- bond totals $6,500.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Thunder_Sis on March 18, 2011, 11:47:47 AM
Per KTAB's facebook page

KTAB
Billie Dunn has been arraigned -- bond totals $6,500.
11 minutes ago


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 11:50:19 AM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27233525/detail.html

Hailey Dunn's Mother, Billie, In Jail Facing Three Charges
By Jocelyn Tovar, KTXS News
POSTED: 7:38 pm CDT March 17, 2011

ABILENE, Texas -- Billie Jean Dunn was booked into the Mitchell County Jail on Thursday. The mother of the missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn is charged with hindering apprehension and prosecution, possession of dangerous drugs, and a false report to police officers
 ::snipping2::
Kampfer told KTXS Thursday night he has been told she was led away and is being questioned. They did use a Colorado City officer to escort officials with the district attorney's office to the home.
Kampfer said he believes the interrogation is being initiated by the office of District Attorney Ann Reed.

 ::snipping2::

PK yet again minimizing & talking out of his BLEEP....She was arrested NOT led away to be questioned, she was charged & will be arraigned


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 11:53:08 AM
Per KTAB's facebook page

KTAB
Billie Dunn has been arraigned -- bond totals $6,500.
11 minutes ago

Im waiting to see two things

Did she get a public defender, her own attorney for the arraignment.  DId she make a request at the arraignment
Who is going to bail her out


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: TexasTater on March 18, 2011, 11:56:33 AM
Maybe Lawyer wasn't needed for bail hearing, if so, I'd say Public Defender. She should be released soon, Shawn won't allow her to stay in jail long now.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 12:05:06 PM
Per KTAB
Billie Dunn has been arraigned -- bond totals $6,500.

Thanks TexasTater

If Billie were my daughter ... out of love ... for her own well being and ... the possibility that the truth would be forthcoming in regardings to my missing granddaughter ... my prayer would be that the $6500.00 bond amount is not raised.

Maybe ... just maybe ... without drugs in Billie's system ... a conscience will emerge and ... her precious daughter ... not despicable Shawn ... will become her focus.

Janet



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: TexasTater on March 18, 2011, 12:11:01 PM
I don't think so because of her Narcissistic personality.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 12:11:45 PM
Per KTAB
Billie Dunn has been arraigned -- bond totals $6,500.

Thanks TexasTater

If Billie were my daughter ... out of love ... for her own well being and ... the possibility that the truth would be forthcoming in regardings to my missing granddaughter ... my prayer would be that the $6500.00 bond amount is not raised.

Maybe ... just maybe ... without drugs in Billie's system ... a conscience will emerge and ... her precious daughter ... not despicable Shawn ... will become her focus.

Janet



Her "supporters" were already attempting to raise funds to get her out, all she needs is 10% which is $650

I just want to take this time to mention another case:

Casey Anthony, she was initially arrested for child neglect & lying to LE, she got bailed out then she went back in arrested on economic charges, after indictment Oct 14, 2008 she was charged with felony murder (mind you Caylee's remains were not found prior to indictment) Dec 11, 2008

It may be prudent to keep that sequence in the back of our minds


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: 4myjoey on March 18, 2011, 12:11:47 PM
Are camera's allowed in the court room in Texas?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 12:13:31 PM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27233525/detail.html

Hailey Dunn's Mother, Billie, In Jail Facing Three Charges
By Jocelyn Tovar, KTXS News
POSTED: 7:38 pm CDT March 17, 2011

ABILENE, Texas -- Billie Jean Dunn was booked into the Mitchell County Jail on Thursday. The mother of the missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn is charged with hindering apprehension and prosecution, possession of dangerous drugs, and a false report to police officers

 ::snipping2::

Kampfer told KTXS Thursday night he has been told she was led away and is being questioned. They did use a Colorado City officer to escort officials with the district attorney's office to the home.

Kampfer said he believes the interrogation is being initiated by the office of District Attorney Ann Reed.

 ::snipping2::

PK yet again minimizing & talking out of his BLEEP....She was arrested NOT led away to be questioned, she was charged & will be arraigned

 ::MonkeyConfused::

Capp ... what you referred to Kampfer as in the last thread.  I agree.

Janet

+++++


Billie Dunn Arrested in Mitchell County
Updated: Mar 17, 2011 8:55 PM PDT


<snipped>

Dunn was arrested by the Mitchell County Sheriff's Office and the Mitchell County District Attorney's Office. Authorities went to Billie Dunn's house in Colorado City to serve a warrant out of Howard County to search what Shawn Adkins had on him.

Dunn told authorities that Adkins wasn't at the home, but he was, and as a result Dunn was arrested.

Billie Dunn has been charged with three misdemeanors. The charges are Hindering Apprehension, Possession of a Dangerous Drug and False Report to a Police Officer.

The drug charge was for a prescription drug that was in the house that Dunn did not have a prescription for.

Dunn will go before a judge tomorrow to have a bond set.

<snipped?

http://www.kwes.com/Global/story.asp?S=14274347


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: TexasTater on March 18, 2011, 12:15:29 PM
KRBC TV
We'll have video of Billie Dunn's arraignment at 11:30 a.m. on Abilene Midday

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/livevideo-krbc


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: cw618 on March 18, 2011, 12:15:56 PM
is this a cash bond or a i forget what its call, you pay 10%,or cash to bondsman


Dunn's bond was set at $6,500 and she returned to jail after the arraignment hearing this morning until she can post bail.
http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: cw618 on March 18, 2011, 12:18:23 PM
wow i must have shimmed over this little peice, so she can afford a lawyer

During the hearing, Dunn was not represented by an attorney and declined to have the court appoint one for her.
http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: cw618 on March 18, 2011, 12:21:10 PM
KRBC TV
We'll have video of Billie Dunn's arraignment at 11:30 a.m. on Abilene Midday

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/livevideo-krbc


TY


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 12:31:13 PM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=140260922707956&set=o.189599337718905&theater

Pic of Billie in her orange jumpsuit

Ill screenshot it and post it direct in a few minutes


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: littletxlady on March 18, 2011, 12:33:47 PM
Good Morning Monkeys
Woke up this am to find out about BD. WOW this is a great development!
Thanks everyone for all the updates  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: klaasend on March 18, 2011, 12:35:38 PM
May have already been posted

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/ (http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/)

 ::snipping2::

Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs said Billie Dunn consented to having her home searched after telling officers Adkins was not there. When investigators searched the house, they found Adkins and executed the search warrant for him, but Toombs would not elaborate on what evidence was sought or collected.

The search warrant was issued out of Howard County because his mother’s house in Big Spring was his last known address.

Officials also executed a search warrant for Adkins’ grandmother’s home in Dunn, where he had been staying after leaving Billie Dunn’s house in the aftermath of Hailey's disappearance. Scurry County District Attorney Dana Cooley declined to comment on any specifics related to that warrant.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: islandmonkey on March 18, 2011, 12:38:59 PM
I hope she likes the color orange, I have a feeling when this ends she is going to have only ONE choice of colors ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: cw618 on March 18, 2011, 12:40:23 PM
VIDEO: Billie Dunn Arraigned on Three Charges
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353136


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 12:41:23 PM
Get this!!!

Mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn arraigned in Mitchell County
By Greg Kendall-Ball
Posted March 18, 2011 at 11 a.m., updated March 18, 2011 at 11:34 a.m.

Billie Jean Dunn, mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn, has been arraigned by Mitchell County Justice of the Peace James Williams.

Dunn's bond was set at $6,500 and she returned to jail after the arraignment hearing this morning until she can post bail.

Dunn was escorted from the Mitchell County Jail to the Mitchell County Courthouse this morning in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffs. She declined to answer questions from the media.      That is a stark contrast lol
During the hearing, Dunn was not represented by an attorney and declined to have the court appoint one for her.
 ::snipping2::
Edit to add link initially omitted.  MB http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/

OK there is no doubt now, she has a rock for a brain!   Who does that!    She is not going to prove any innocence by refusing representation


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 12:42:02 PM
Get this!!!

Mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn arraigned in Mitchell County
By Greg Kendall-Ball
Posted March 18, 2011 at 11 a.m., updated March 18, 2011 at 11:34 a.m.

Billie Jean Dunn, mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn, has been arraigned by Mitchell County Justice of the Peace James Williams.

Dunn's bond was set at $6,500 and she returned to jail after the arraignment hearing this morning until she can post bail.

Dunn was escorted from the Mitchell County Jail to the Mitchell County Courthouse this morning in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffs. She declined to answer questions from the media.      That is a stark contrast lol
During the hearing, Dunn was not represented by an attorney and declined to have the court appoint one for her.
 ::snipping2::


OK there is no doubt now, she has a rock for a brain!   Who does that!    She is not going to prove any innocence by refusing representation

Double post to include link
LINK ^^^ http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/

Thank you for posting again to add the link, but I still have to go back and add it to the first.  :-(  Muffy


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 12:42:05 PM
wow i must have shimmed over this little peice, so she can afford a lawyer

During the hearing, Dunn was not represented by an attorney and declined to have the court appoint one for her.
http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/


I can envision it now.

If not today ... then tomorrow or ... the next day ... a high profile defence attorney will come galloping in on a white horse.  Then the talk show circuit with the major networks will be where it is at.  Maybe book and/or movie deals.  Unchallenged platforms will be provided to Billie ... unchallenged platforms to further her agenda of protecting Shawn from implication in the disappearance of her daughter.  In other words ... the truth in regards to what Billie knows will remain forever elusive.
 
IMO.  I hope I am wrong.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Curly on March 18, 2011, 12:42:29 PM
Per KTAB
Billie Dunn has been arraigned -- bond totals $6,500.

Thanks TexasTater

If Billie were my daughter ... out of love ... for her own well being and ... the possibility that the truth would be forthcoming in regardings to my missing granddaughter ... my prayer would be that the $6500.00 bond amount is not raised.

Maybe ... just maybe ... without drugs in Billie's system ... a conscience will emerge and ... her precious daughter ... not despicable Shawn ... will become her focus.

Janet



Her "supporters" were already attempting to raise funds to get her out, all she needs is 10% which is $650

I just want to take this time to mention another case:

Casey Anthony, she was initially arrested for child neglect & lying to LE, she got bailed out then she went back in arrested on economic charges, after indictment Oct 14, 2008 she was charged with felony murder (mind you Caylee's remains were not found prior to indictment) Dec 11, 2008

It may be prudent to keep that sequence in the back of our minds

I've been dying to say this (even though it's not the case yet)~  Stick a fork in her...Billie's Done.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: FishstickKitty on March 18, 2011, 12:43:23 PM
An interesting bit from the BJD Support FB

Quote
About the child porn and stuff.. to have that much on one computer indicates a js exploit virus and any law enforcement with computer knowlege knows this. It's impossible for one person to download that much because it... would take years.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall)

What this person is alleging is that a virus took over the computer and downloaded all of these images without anyone's knowledge.  If I had 109,000 images of anything on my computer, I think I would become aware of it, especially if my computer was infected by a virus.

As far as it being impossible to download that many images, a GA man earlier this year was convicted of downloading over 200,000 such images. ::MonkeyNoNo::



That's total bs. A person can easily download that many pics from the net.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 12:45:41 PM
May have already been posted

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/ (http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/)

 ::snipping2::

Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs said Billie Dunn consented to having her home searched after telling officers Adkins was not there. When investigators searched the house, they found Adkins and executed the search warrant for him, but Toombs would not elaborate on what evidence was sought or collected.

The search warrant was issued out of Howard County because his mother’s house in Big Spring was his last known address.

Officials also executed a search warrant for Adkins’ grandmother’s home in Dunn, where he had been staying after leaving Billie Dunn’s house in the aftermath of Hailey's disappearance. Scurry County District Attorney Dana Cooley declined to comment on any specifics related to that warrant.

Thanks Klaas

Why was Shawn not arrested for eluding authorities yesterday when they were attempting to serve him with the search warrant?  Billie's arrest implies that he must have known.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 12:46:27 PM
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/mslaitte/CRIME-TRIAL/HAILEY%20DUNN/BDUNNprepwalk31811.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: cw618 on March 18, 2011, 01:01:36 PM
Quote
I can envision it now.

If not today ... then tomorrow or ... the next day ... a high profile defence attorney will come galloping in on a white horse.  Then the talk show circuit with the major networks will be where it is at.  Maybe book and/or movie deals.  Unchallenged platforms will be provided to Billie ... unchallenged platforms to further her agenda of protecting Shawn from implication in the disappearance of her daughter.  In other words ... the truth in regards to what Billie knows will remain forever elusive.
 
IMO.  I hope I am wrong.

Janet
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=post;topic=9552.40;num_replies=46#top

the truth in regards to what Billie knows will remain forever elusive.

i hope your wrong too, these people seem to think its a game,do they know what real life is


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 01:03:34 PM
An interesting bit from the BJD Support FB

Quote
About the child porn and stuff.. to have that much on one computer indicates a js exploit virus and any law enforcement with computer knowlege knows this. It's impossible for one person to download that much because it... would take years.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall)

What this person is alleging is that a virus took over the computer and downloaded all of these images without anyone's knowledge.  If I had 109,000 images of anything on my computer, I think I would become aware of it, especially if my computer was infected by a virus.

As far as it being impossible to download that many images, a GA man earlier this year was convicted of downloading over 200,000 such images. ::MonkeyNoNo::



im thinking, that SA could have downloaded the Bestiality files
in a shorter time than was thought, by using "u-torrent  or some
other bit torrent program, i did a search with (bestiality torrent)
and the 2nd result was see below, no link needed for you to check it
yourself,just google that term, 1000 mb = 1gb ,so this file is 8.5 gig
im sure there are prob larger files,and you can download several at
a time,ive done six at one time,they were movies,just was a little slower

question
Can I download multiple torrents at the same time with a Bit torrent (u torrent) client?
Yeah
 download 30 sometimes, big ones like 10G's
http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101028201656AAXjU2w
---------------
2nd result
Bestiality MEGAPACK Zooporn
Size 8665MB in 49 files  Category XXX

and at the bottom of the pg it listed the files in the pack,
some were mvi,and some jpg, ect.

 beginner's guide to BitTorrent
http://lifehacker.com/#!285489/a-beginners-guide-to-bittorrent

i use this one
http://www.utorrent.com/help/faq

OKAY, I found the original Facebook reference mentioned above & I still contend that that is utter BUNK!

Robin Fleming Very good points Pam. About the child porn and stuff.. to have that much on one computer indicates a js exploit virus and any law enforcement with computer knowlege knows this. It's impossible for one person to download that much because it would take years. If Billie had a lawyer all this could be explained easily which is why they aren't arrested for it. Anyone would be half crazy by now, it's very very easy to become addicted to pain killers and yes drugs do numb the emotions which is why alot of people do them. Billie loves Shawn even if we don't and there's no evidence against him or he'd be in jail. Holly I wish everyone were like you and asked questions really caring to hear what the answer is.
4 hours ago


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: joesamas mama on March 18, 2011, 01:14:15 PM
May have already been posted

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/ (http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/)

 ::snipping2::

Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs said Billie Dunn consented to having her home searched after telling officers Adkins was not there. When investigators searched the house, they found Adkins and executed the search warrant for him, but Toombs would not elaborate on what evidence was sought or collected.

The search warrant was issued out of Howard County because his mother’s house in Big Spring was his last known address.

Officials also executed a search warrant for Adkins’ grandmother’s home in Dunn, where he had been staying after leaving Billie Dunn’s house in the aftermath of Hailey's disappearance. Scurry County District Attorney Dana Cooley declined to comment on any specifics related to that warrant.

Thanks Klaas

Why was Shawn not arrested for eluding authorities yesterday when they were attempting to serve him with the search warrant?  Billie's arrest implies that he must have known.

Janet
BBM.... Maybe he is singing like a yellow canary ratting Billile out????


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: islandmonkey on March 18, 2011, 01:15:10 PM
Don't you ppl get it.......I am the victim and it is all about me, what part of that do you not understand, poor me, I may have to use the money I have saved for my big screen tv for bail, so not fair......I deserve the new TV, tattoo, new furniture, donated van and the red sports car etc, and I deserve to be able to redecorate and all the dontations, grants soooooooooo for all my loyal koolaide drinkers-pls help me pay my bills (and I promise I won't but RX again when anyone is watching  ::MonkeyWink:: )

Hailey was nosy, didn't obey me and ever since she "left", well my life has been horrible, all I get to do is sit on my couch, accept money from others (again since I deserve it), and I even had to buy drugs illegally since my daughter up and left and made me look suspicous-my nerves were shot and none of this would have happened if she didn't have an attitude, or if she would have obeyed me (even though when she directly disobeyed and went outside), she was so nosy and I hope she learns her lesson about her (Hailey) selfish behavoir when she "left"........this is what I can imagine BJD is saying since of course she is as innocent as a newborn kitty, and has been slandered-again according to her, and the silly LE wanted her to cut ties with the suspect.....but it is all Hailey's fault and she it the victim. Sorry for the rant but she is pure evil and deserves to be punished to the fullest extent of the law for not only failing her child, but even worse she betrayed her..... ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 01:16:29 PM
I hope she likes the color orange, I have a feeling when this ends she is going to have only ONE choice of colors ::MonkeyTongue::

Thanks islandmonkey.

Billie ... is Shawn really worth it?

Janet

+++++

Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Billie Jean Dunn: Blog Talk Radio Interview March 2

<snipped>

Host: We have found out… Shawn has had an affair.

Billie Dunn: Yeah. I heard that too.

Host: Tell us about this.

Billie Dunn: Some of the pictures were of other women, so he finally admitted to that. ...

Host: …rumors… Shawn is sending naked pictures of himself to other women. Do you know anything about that?

Billie Dunn: I don’t know, and again, I had heard also, but I don’t know.

<snipped>

http://www.diigo.com/bookmark/http%3A%2F%2Fcasesignal.wordpress.com%2Fhailey-dunn-transcript-billie-jean-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-2?tab=people&uname=casesignal

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/03/bring-them-home-now--exclusive-billy-dunn-speaks-out-maybe-for-the-last-time



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: islandmonkey on March 18, 2011, 01:19:10 PM
 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

Mug Shot !


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Gabe on March 18, 2011, 01:19:45 PM

An interesting bit from the BJD Support FB

Quote
About the child porn and stuff.. to have that much on one computer indicates a js exploit virus and any law enforcement with computer knowlege knows this. It's impossible for one person to download that much because it... would take years.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall)

What this person is alleging is that a virus took over the computer and downloaded all of these images without anyone's knowledge.  If I had 109,000 images of anything on my computer, I think I would become aware of it, especially if my computer was infected by a virus.

As far as it being impossible to download that many images, a GA man earlier this year was convicted of downloading over 200,000 such images. ::MonkeyNoNo::



im thinking, that SA could have downloaded the Bestiality files
in a shorter time than was thought, by using "u-torrent  or some
other bit torrent program, i did a search with (bestiality torrent)
and the 2nd result was see below, no link needed for you to check it
yourself,just google that term, 1000 mb = 1gb ,so this file is 8.5 gig
im sure there are prob larger files,and you can download several at
a time,ive done six at one time,they were movies,just was a little slower

question
Can I download multiple torrents at the same time with a Bit torrent (u torrent) client?
Yeah
 download 30 sometimes, big ones like 10G's
http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101028201656AAXjU2w
---------------
2nd result
Bestiality MEGAPACK Zooporn
Size 8665MB in 49 files  Category XXX

and at the bottom of the pg it listed the files in the pack,
some were mvi,and some jpg, ect.

 beginner's guide to BitTorrent
http://lifehacker.com/#!285489/a-beginners-guide-to-bittorrent

i use this one
http://www.utorrent.com/help/faq

OKAY, I found the original Facebook reference mentioned above & I still contend that that is utter BUNK!

Robin Fleming Very good points Pam. About the child porn and stuff.. to have that much on one computer indicates a js exploit virus and any law enforcement with computer knowlege knows this. It's impossible for one person to download that much because it would take years. If Billie had a lawyer all this could be explained easily which is why they aren't arrested for it. Anyone would be half crazy by now, it's very very easy to become addicted to pain killers and yes drugs do numb the emotions which is why alot of people do them. Billie loves Shawn even if we don't and there's no evidence against him or he'd be in jail. Holly I wish everyone were like you and asked questions really caring to hear what the answer is.
4 hours ago


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 01:21:28 PM
May have already been posted

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/ (http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/)

 ::snipping2::

Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs said Billie Dunn consented to having her home searched after telling officers Adkins was not there. When investigators searched the house, they found Adkins and executed the search warrant for him, but Toombs would not elaborate on what evidence was sought or collected.

The search warrant was issued out of Howard County because his mother’s house in Big Spring was his last known address.

Officials also executed a search warrant for Adkins’ grandmother’s home in Dunn, where he had been staying after leaving Billie Dunn’s house in the aftermath of Hailey's disappearance. Scurry County District Attorney Dana Cooley declined to comment on any specifics related to that warrant.

Thanks Klaas

Why was Shawn not arrested for eluding authorities yesterday when they were attempting to serve him with the search warrant?  Billie's arrest implies that he must have known.

Janet
BBM.... Maybe he is singing like a yellow canary ratting Billile out????

Hi joesamas mama

You could be right but ... I believe IF there is any talking to investigators ... it will Billie.  Shawn has more to lose.  IMO.

Janet



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: cw618 on March 18, 2011, 01:28:00 PM
UPDATE 11:34 a.m.: The Midland judge who signed a search warrant for Shawn Adkins declines to release information about the warrant. Here is the statement from the judge's court coordinator:

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on March 18, 2011, 01:28:27 PM
http://www.kvmckaum.blogspot.com/

Click here to listen to live local news about Billie's arrest. Very interesting.

Also interviews Shawn !

I feel this is a very resourceful link.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on March 18, 2011, 01:29:33 PM
http://www.kvmckaum.blogspot.com/

Click here to listen to live local news about Billie's arrest. Very interesting.

Also interviews Shawn !

I feel this is a very resourceful link.
CLICK ON THE RIGHT SIDE TO LISTEN, LIVE NOW. I AM LISTENING AS I TYPE.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: joesamas mama on March 18, 2011, 01:30:11 PM
May have already been posted

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/ (http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/)

 ::snipping2::

Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs said Billie Dunn consented to having her home searched after telling officers Adkins was not there. When investigators searched the house, they found Adkins and executed the search warrant for him, but Toombs would not elaborate on what evidence was sought or collected.

The search warrant was issued out of Howard County because his mother’s house in Big Spring was his last known address.

Officials also executed a search warrant for Adkins’ grandmother’s home in Dunn, where he had been staying after leaving Billie Dunn’s house in the aftermath of Hailey's disappearance. Scurry County District Attorney Dana Cooley declined to comment on any specifics related to that warrant.

Thanks Klaas

Why was Shawn not arrested for eluding authorities yesterday when they were attempting to serve him with the search warrant?  Billie's arrest implies that he must have known.

Janet
BBM.... Maybe he is singing like a yellow canary ratting Billile out????

Hi joesamas mama

You could be right but ... I believe IF there is any talking to investigators ... it will Billie.  Shawn has more to lose.  IMO.

Janet


You know Janet, I go back and forth on which one will be the bus driver so to speak. I just see a lot of KC Anthony in Billie, they are both habitual liars, everything is all about KC/Billie not their missing child, talking of their daughter in past tense, not helping, but hindering investigators, etc. These are all JMO. But both women make me sick.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: cw618 on March 18, 2011, 01:32:55 PM
Quote
cap
OKAY, I found the original Facebook reference mentioned above & I still contend that that is utter BUNK!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9552.msg1317173#msg131717
3

yes bunk,i think he prob used a bit torrent program, simple to use,fast,
can do mutilple downloads, what easier way to build your collection


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 01:33:30 PM
http://www.kvmckaum.blogspot.com/

Click here to listen to live local news about Billie's arrest. Very interesting.

Also interviews Shawn !

I feel this is a very resourceful link.
CLICK ON THE RIGHT SIDE TO LISTEN, LIVE NOW. I AM LISTENING AS I TYPE.

LEP,

Do you hear anything because they are not discussing it now


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 01:35:58 PM
Quote
cap
OKAY, I found the original Facebook reference mentioned above & I still contend that that is utter BUNK!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9552.msg1317173#msg131717
3

yes bunk,i think he prob used a bit torrent program, simple to use,fast,
can do mutilple downloads, what easier way to build your collection


Yea, my reference is that the original post on Facebook by RF which defies logic & is obviously someone drinking koolaid looking for ways that Billie is either innocent or can get away with whatever she is responsible for doing.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Gabe on March 18, 2011, 01:37:29 PM

An interesting bit from the BJD Support FB

Quote
About the child porn and stuff.. to have that much on one computer indicates a js exploit virus and any law enforcement with computer knowlege knows this. It's impossible for one person to download that much because it... would take years.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall)

What this person is alleging is that a virus took over the computer and downloaded all of these images without anyone's knowledge.  If I had 109,000 images of anything on my computer, I think I would become aware of it, especially if my computer was infected by a virus.

As far as it being impossible to download that many images, a GA man earlier this year was convicted of downloading over 200,000 such images. ::MonkeyNoNo::



im thinking, that SA could have downloaded the Bestiality files
in a shorter time than was thought, by using "u-torrent  or some
other bit torrent program, i did a search with (bestiality torrent)
and the 2nd result was see below, no link needed for you to check it
yourself,just google that term, 1000 mb = 1gb ,so this file is 8.5 gig
im sure there are prob larger files,and you can download several at
a time,ive done six at one time,they were movies,just was a little slower

question
Can I download multiple torrents at the same time with a Bit torrent (u torrent) client?
Yeah
 download 30 sometimes, big ones like 10G's
http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101028201656AAXjU2w
---------------
2nd result
Bestiality MEGAPACK Zooporn
Size 8665MB in 49 files  Category XXX

and at the bottom of the pg it listed the files in the pack,
some were mvi,and some jpg, ect.

 beginner's guide to BitTorrent
http://lifehacker.com/#!285489/a-beginners-guide-to-bittorrent

i use this one
http://www.utorrent.com/help/faq

OKAY, I found the original Facebook reference mentioned above & I still contend that that is utter BUNK!

Robin Fleming Very good points Pam. About the child porn and stuff.. to have that much on one computer indicates a js exploit virus and any law enforcement with computer knowlege knows this. It's impossible for one person to download that much because it would take years. If Billie had a lawyer all this could be explained easily which is why they aren't arrested for it. Anyone would be half crazy by now, it's very very easy to become addicted to pain killers and yes drugs do numb the emotions which is why alot of people do them. Billie loves Shawn even if we don't and there's no evidence against him or he'd be in jail. Holly I wish everyone were like you and asked questions really caring to hear what the answer is.
4 hours ago
Why are you defending a mother that puts her child in with drugs not just pain killers meth!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on March 18, 2011, 01:45:57 PM
http://www.kvmckaum.blogspot.com/

Click here to listen to live local news about Billie's arrest. Very interesting.

Also interviews Shawn !

I feel this is a very resourceful link.
CLICK ON THE RIGHT SIDE TO LISTEN, LIVE NOW. I AM LISTENING AS I TYPE.

LEP,

Do you hear anything because they are not discussing it now
That she is in Detox. Bond has been set. Shawn said he told "everything" that he knows.
They also STATED that BOTH r persons of interest.

I will leave it on all day and listen. They have a lot of good info on it. I do not rem. who gave an interview n BD's arrest, but he talked a lot. I was  upstairs. Sorry ! :-( This is up to the date local news and I think it will be repeated all day. There is a link on the page where u may be able to request a transcript ?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on March 18, 2011, 01:47:34 PM

An interesting bit from the BJD Support FB

Quote
About the child porn and stuff.. to have that much on one computer indicates a js exploit virus and any law enforcement with computer knowlege knows this. It's impossible for one person to download that much because it... would take years.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall)

What this person is alleging is that a virus took over the computer and downloaded all of these images without anyone's knowledge.  If I had 109,000 images of anything on my computer, I think I would become aware of it, especially if my computer was infected by a virus.

As far as it being impossible to download that many images, a GA man earlier this year was convicted of downloading over 200,000 such images. ::MonkeyNoNo::



im thinking, that SA could have downloaded the Bestiality files
in a shorter time than was thought, by using "u-torrent  or some
other bit torrent program, i did a search with (bestiality torrent)
and the 2nd result was see below, no link needed for you to check it
yourself,just google that term, 1000 mb = 1gb ,so this file is 8.5 gig
im sure there are prob larger files,and you can download several at
a time,ive done six at one time,they were movies,just was a little slower

question
Can I download multiple torrents at the same time with a Bit torrent (u torrent) client?
Yeah
 download 30 sometimes, big ones like 10G's
http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101028201656AAXjU2w
---------------
2nd result
Bestiality MEGAPACK Zooporn
Size 8665MB in 49 files  Category XXX

and at the bottom of the pg it listed the files in the pack,
some were mvi,and some jpg, ect.

 beginner's guide to BitTorrent
http://lifehacker.com/#!285489/a-beginners-guide-to-bittorrent

i use this one
http://www.utorrent.com/help/faq

OKAY, I found the original Facebook reference mentioned above & I still contend that that is utter BUNK!

Robin Fleming Very good points Pam. About the child porn and stuff.. to have that much on one computer indicates a js exploit virus and any law enforcement with computer knowlege knows this. It's impossible for one person to download that much because it would take years. If Billie had a lawyer all this could be explained easily which is why they aren't arrested for it. Anyone would be half crazy by now, it's very very easy to become addicted to pain killers and yes drugs do numb the emotions which is why alot of people do them. Billie loves Shawn even if we don't and there's no evidence against him or he'd be in jail. Holly I wish everyone were like you and asked questions really caring to hear what the answer is.
4 hours ago
Why are you defending a mother that puts her child in with drugs not just pain killers meth!
m I understanding this post correctly ?
Are u pro Billie ?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on March 18, 2011, 01:48:53 PM
BRB in about 30 min. Gotta do some stuff b 4 the window men arrive. Geez! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 01:52:24 PM

An interesting bit from the BJD Support FB

Quote
About the child porn and stuff.. to have that much on one computer indicates a js exploit virus and any law enforcement with computer knowlege knows this. It's impossible for one person to download that much because it... would take years.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall)

What this person is alleging is that a virus took over the computer and downloaded all of these images without anyone's knowledge.  If I had 109,000 images of anything on my computer, I think I would become aware of it, especially if my computer was infected by a virus.

As far as it being impossible to download that many images, a GA man earlier this year was convicted of downloading over 200,000 such images. ::MonkeyNoNo::



im thinking, that SA could have downloaded the Bestiality files
in a shorter time than was thought, by using "u-torrent  or some
other bit torrent program, i did a search with (bestiality torrent)
and the 2nd result was see below, no link needed for you to check it
yourself,just google that term, 1000 mb = 1gb ,so this file is 8.5 gig
im sure there are prob larger files,and you can download several at
a time,ive done six at one time,they were movies,just was a little slower

question
Can I download multiple torrents at the same time with a Bit torrent (u torrent) client?
Yeah
 download 30 sometimes, big ones like 10G's
http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101028201656AAXjU2w
---------------
2nd result
Bestiality MEGAPACK Zooporn
Size 8665MB in 49 files  Category XXX

and at the bottom of the pg it listed the files in the pack,
some were mvi,and some jpg, ect.

 beginner's guide to BitTorrent
http://lifehacker.com/#!285489/a-beginners-guide-to-bittorrent

i use this one
http://www.utorrent.com/help/faq

OKAY, I found the original Facebook reference mentioned above & I still contend that that is utter BUNK!

Robin Fleming Very good points Pam. About the child porn and stuff.. to have that much on one computer indicates a js exploit virus and any law enforcement with computer knowlege knows this. It's impossible for one person to download that much because it would take years. If Billie had a lawyer all this could be explained easily which is why they aren't arrested for it. Anyone would be half crazy by now, it's very very easy to become addicted to pain killers and yes drugs do numb the emotions which is why alot of people do them. Billie loves Shawn even if we don't and there's no evidence against him or he'd be in jail. Holly I wish everyone were like you and asked questions really caring to hear what the answer is.
4 hours ago
Why are you defending a mother that puts her child in with drugs not just pain killers meth!

I have no idea Gabe, its typical of those inclined to want to find excuses for everything.  The bottom line here is Billie is a biological mother of two minor children & her duty should have first and foremost been devoted daily to their safety & well-being.  I dont give a rat's bottom "how easy" it is to get hooked on scripts, if she got them from a doctor for a specific medical condition she would have been monitored to prevent just that by pain medication compliance but NO she bought them off the street & often...that is a CHOICE not an EXCUSE.    She is abusing drugs BY CHOICE.

Secondly, its obvious Billie "loves" (beg to differ what that means) Shawn BUT what is evident about that is Billie is choosing Shawn over her own children & that cannot be explained away by lame excuses.   She was specifically told to stay away from Shawn until or unless he was cleared but she refuses, it exhibits that she is defiant & willing to be a partner to Shawn rather than stepping up to tell the truth & be more concerned for her children.   Today we learned she did not request an attorney & refused a public defender being assigned to represent her....she "thinks" that is showing people that she is innocent & she has nothing to hide by that idiotic stunt, she is sorely mistaken.   I hope she likes orange because she will be in it much longer next time  ::MonkeyWink::

She is a pathological liar & Im sure we will be even more disgusted in the days ahead.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 01:52:46 PM
I hope she likes the color orange, I have a feeling when this ends she is going to have only ONE choice of colors ::MonkeyTongue::

Thanks islandmonkey.

Billie ... is Shawn really worth it?

Janet

+++++

Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Billie Jean Dunn: Blog Talk Radio Interview March 2

<snipped>

Host: We have found out… Shawn has had an affair.

Billie Dunn: Yeah. I heard that too.

Host: Tell us about this.

Billie Dunn: Some of the pictures were of other women, so he finally admitted to that. ...

Host: …rumors… Shawn is sending naked pictures of himself to other women. Do you know anything about that?

Billie Dunn: I don’t know, and again, I had heard also, but I don’t know.

<snipped>

http://www.diigo.com/bookmark/http%3A%2F%2Fcasesignal.wordpress.com%2Fhailey-dunn-transcript-billie-jean-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-2?tab=people&uname=casesignal

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/03/bring-them-home-now--exclusive-billy-dunn-speaks-out-maybe-for-the-last-time



When I read Billie's words above and ... then read her words below from the same interview ... if it was not for her missing daughter ... I would feel sorry for her.

Billie has no self-worth.

Janet

+++++


Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Billie Jean Dunn: Blog Talk Radio Interview March 2

Host: Can you describe Shawn for us?

Billie Dunn: Shawn’s always been really good to me. The Shawn that I know has treated me very well. He’s treated the kids well. He’s, we’ve had arguments, but he’s never been physically abusive toward me. He’s treated me better than anybody else had. He’s done a lot for me.

http://www.diigo.com/bookmark/http%3A%2F%2Fcasesignal.wordpress.com%2Fhailey-dunn-transcript-billie-jean-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-2?tab=people&uname=casesignal

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/03/bring-them-home-now--exclusive-billy-dunn-speaks-out-maybe-for-the-last-time




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: cw618 on March 18, 2011, 01:53:56 PM
Quote
Why are you defending a mother that puts her child in with drugs not just pain killers meth!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9552.msg1317183#msg1317183

Gabe i dont think Robin Fleming and Pam,are posters here
you may have to go to the FB link to ask that Q, and welcome to SM
  FB link
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall

post from FB
Robin Fleming Very good points Pam. About the child porn and stuff.. to have that much on one computer indicates a js exploit virus and any law enforcement with computer knowlege knows this. It's impossible for one person to download that much because it would take years. If Billie had a lawyer all this could be explained easily which is why they aren't arrested for it. Anyone would be half crazy by now, it's very very easy to become addicted to pain killers and yes drugs do numb the emotions which is why alot of people do them. Billie loves Shawn even if we don't and there's no evidence against him or he'd be in jail. Holly I wish everyone were like you and asked questions really caring to hear what the answer is.
4 hours ago



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Boston Lady on March 18, 2011, 02:04:31 PM
Thank you for the radio link.    It is interesting to listen to the locals.   I believe  one of the local supporters of Billie Dunn - Cat - is a photographer for this radio station.    Since I read this and saw her on FB,  I can't confirm.    Plus, the FB page I was reading, Cat was removed/banned as a member for breaking a rule.

Anyway, did you all notice that Billie Jean has new highlights in her hair?  Wonder when she did that?

I agree with Capp that Billie is not smart making the choice of denying having a lawyer represent her.  Even though I believe she is guilty, along with Shawn, in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn, everyone should be represented by an attorney in court.   At the very least to help them navigate and understand what is occurring.

I believe this is a small beginning to everything falling out.   I hope that Big Country will start being objective in their reporting and stop protecting or softening the facts surrounding Billie Jean.  They are not asking any difficult questions and they had plenty of opportunity with her.   JMOO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: cw618 on March 18, 2011, 02:04:56 PM
Quote
gabe
Why are you defending a mother that puts her child in with drugs not just pain killers meth!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9552.msg1317183#msg1317183

BBM,
gabe sounds like you are saying that BD does meth


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 02:06:53 PM
Quote
Why are you defending a mother that puts her child in with drugs not just pain killers meth!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9552.msg1317183#msg1317183

Gabe i dont think Robin Fleming and Pam,are posters here
you may have to go to the FB link to ask that Q, and welcome to SM
  FB link
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall

post from FB
Robin Fleming Very good points Pam. About the child porn and stuff.. to have that much on one computer indicates a js exploit virus and any law enforcement with computer knowlege knows this. It's impossible for one person to download that much because it would take years. If Billie had a lawyer all this could be explained easily which is why they aren't arrested for it. Anyone would be half crazy by now, it's very very easy to become addicted to pain killers and yes drugs do numb the emotions which is why alot of people do them. Billie loves Shawn even if we don't and there's no evidence against him or he'd be in jail. Holly I wish everyone were like you and asked questions really caring to hear what the answer is.
4 hours ago



I read it as a general question as in "why would (anyone) defend..." not necessarily pointing that at a poster here


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 02:26:50 PM
Thank you for the radio link.    It is interesting to listen to the locals.   I believe  one of the local supporters of Billie Dunn - Cat - is a photographer for this radio station.    Since I read this and saw her on FB,  I can't confirm.    Plus, the FB page I was reading, Cat was removed/banned as a member for breaking a rule.

Anyway, did you all notice that Billie Jean has new highlights in her hair?  Wonder when she did that?

I agree with Capp that Billie is not smart making the choice of denying having a lawyer represent her.  Even though I believe she is guilty, along with Shawn, in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn, everyone should be represented by an attorney in court.   At the very least to help them navigate and understand what is occurring.

I believe this is a small beginning to everything falling out.   I hope that Big Country will start being objective in their reporting and stop protecting or softening the facts surrounding Billie Jean.  They are not asking any difficult questions and they had plenty of opportunity with her.   JMOO

Bostonlady, are you referring to the same Cat that appears to be an admin of the Help Find Hailey Dunn FB page that seems to largely defend Billie & brought a ton of drama  over to Hailey Dunn Open Discussion FB page and then banned?   Well isnt that rather interesting...hmmm   

I have denoted several times that some of the local articles are not only minimizing the facts of this case but also printing quite a few inaccuracies consistently.   PK appearing to be more the "official spin doctor" rather than deferring to the LE departments he has NO say or jurisdiction in.   He is the Colorado City City Manager, which means he deals with the budget & supervises CC's local fire, police, emergency depts -- he has no authority over any other LE branch such as Texas Rangers, FBI or DA's office.    IF PK cant even report that a person was indeed arrested versus spinning it to  "led in for questioning" when facts indicate otherwise, Id venture to say that nothing he says can be relied upon on and/or taken as fact.   PK didnt do himself or Colorado City any favors by appearing as a tool!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: cw618 on March 18, 2011, 02:28:01 PM
BD photos
http://www.reporternews.com/photos/2011/mar/18/79360/
http://www.reporternews.com/photos/2011/mar/18/79359/
http://www.reporternews.com/photos/2011/mar/18/79361/
http://www.reporternews.com/photos/2011/mar/18/79362/
http://www.reporternews.com/photos/2011/mar/18/79363/



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: cw618 on March 18, 2011, 02:32:26 PM
cap said
 read it as a general question as in "why would (anyone) defend..." not necessarily pointing that at a poster here
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9552.msg1317227#msg1317227
----------------
must have been the wording that threw me off (Why are you defending) lol


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 02:36:16 PM
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/mslaitte/CRIME-TRIAL/HAILEY%20DUNN/BDUNNmugshot31711.gif)
Billie Jean Dunn-Dumm's Mug Shot

Strung out & ticked

It does look like she got her hair cut & highlighted recently...but really who creates their eyebrows to look like that  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 02:40:02 PM
cap said
 read it as a general question as in "why would (anyone) defend..." not necessarily pointing that at a poster here
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9552.msg1317227#msg1317227
----------------
must have been the wording that threw me off (Why are you defending) lol


Not sure CW but it was clear to me that it was a post from elsewhere & not what someone said here so thats why I think the wording may read as a question to a poster rather than a general question regarding what someone said on another site. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 02:46:02 PM
NewsWest 9
Billie Dunn has just bonded out and has walked out of the Mitchell County Jail.

http://www.facebook.com/newswest9


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 02:57:31 PM
NewsWest 9
Billie Dunn has just bonded out and has walked out of the Mitchell County Jail.

http://www.facebook.com/newswest9

 ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: sunshine12 on March 18, 2011, 02:57:40 PM
NewsWest 9
Billie Dunn has just bonded out and has walked out of the Mitchell County Jail.

http://www.facebook.com/newswest9

ugh this makes me sick. i can only hope that this is the beginning of more to come and she will end right back in an orange jumpsuit a la casey anthony. if she thought the pressure was bad before, it's about to get even worse.  just looking at her mug shot, pillbillie looks like the most arrogant, narcissitic, sorry excuse for a mother i have ever seen.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: wildmala on March 18, 2011, 02:59:52 PM
NewsWest 9
Billie Dunn has just bonded out and has walked out of the Mitchell County Jail.

http://www.facebook.com/newswest9

Knew that was coming.  Yeesh.  Now go run back home to (insert corny music here) "staaaaannnnd byyyy yeeeerrr maaaaannnnn."


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 03:04:56 PM
NewsWest 9
Billie Dunn has just bonded out and has walked out of the Mitchell County Jail.

http://www.facebook.com/newswest9

ugh this makes me sick. i can only hope that this is the beginning of more to come and she will end right back in an orange jumpsuit a la casey anthony. if she thought the pressure was bad before, it's about to get even worse.  just looking at her mug shot, pillbillie looks like the most arrogant, narcissitic, sorry excuse for a mother i have ever seen.

Just the beginnng!   Im curious if the beeotch will hold a presser by herself for her next spin, with no attorney by her own stupidity....hmmm

Keep talking Billie, just keep talking


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: cw618 on March 18, 2011, 03:06:54 PM
NewsWest 9
Billie Dunn has just bonded out and has walked out of the Mitchell County Jail.

http://www.facebook.com/newswest9

could a local find out if she used her house for bail, TIA


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 03:14:13 PM
NewsWest 9
Billie Dunn has just bonded out and has walked out of the Mitchell County Jail.

http://www.facebook.com/newswest9

could a local find out if she used her house for bail, TIA

Not with that low of a bond


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 03:16:19 PM
Just dawned on me, she had to have received stipulations to her bond release    i.e no drug use


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 03:17:36 PM
NewsWest 9
Billie Dunn has just bonded out and has walked out of the Mitchell County Jail.

http://www.facebook.com/newswest9

ugh this makes me sick. i can only hope that this is the beginning of more to come and she will end right back in an orange jumpsuit a la casey anthony. if she thought the pressure was bad before, it's about to get even worse.  just looking at her mug shot, pillbillie looks like the most arrogant, narcissitic, sorry excuse for a mother i have ever seen.

Just the beginnng!   Im curious if the beeotch will hold a presser by herself for her next spin, with no attorney by her own stupidity....hmmm

Keep talking Billie, just keep talking


I agree.  Each time Billie talks without an attorney present ... she reveals a little bit more ... a little bit more of what she knows that implicates Shawn in the disappearance of her daughter yet ... she continues to protect him.  Despicable!

Janet

+++++

A Huge Red Flag - In Billie Dunn's Own Words

Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Billie Jean Dunn: Blog Talk Radio Interview March 2


Host: When Shawn talked to his mother, what time on Tuesday was it, before lunch on Tuesday.

Billie Dunn: Yeah. I’m not sure what time he got to her house on Tuesday, but I believe it was in the morning, and he left in the afternoon.

Host: Okay, but what I was gonna ask is, what time did he tell her, state to her, that Hailey went missing?

Billie Dunn: Oh, well investigators let me know that she told him, Shawn told her at noon. I didn’t know Hailey was missing yet.

http://www.diigo.com/bookmark/http%3A%2F%2Fcasesignal.wordpress.com%2Fhailey-dunn-transcript-billie-jean-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-2?tab=people&uname=casesignal

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/03/bring-them-home-now--exclusive-billy-dunn-speaks-out-maybe-for-the-last-time


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Magnolia on March 18, 2011, 03:34:57 PM
NewsWest 9
Billie Dunn has just bonded out and has walked out of the Mitchell County Jail.

http://www.facebook.com/newswest9

could a local find out if she used her house for bail, TIA

Not with that low of a bond

I read that her family put up the bond.  Link?  MB


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 03:41:26 PM
Janet, considering our show last week despite what behind the scenes she had to be aware of by LE, she still came on defiantly & tried to lie her face off. 

Well, Scared Monkeys is hearing it first BTH will be having an update on our show next week & our guest will be Rich Cooper who is Hailey's uncle (Clint's brother-in-law).   It is a show everyone will not want to miss.   An official announcement of the show will be available shortly.







Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Gypsy DD on March 18, 2011, 03:43:27 PM
::MonkeyNoNo::

RAW: Billie Dunn at Mitchell County Law Enforcement Center
Friday, March 18 2011


<snipped>

KTAB's Michelle Ashworth was rolling last night as Billie Dunn was being questioned by investigators at the Mitchell County Law Enforcement Center.

In the clip, Billie Dunn appears upset that she's being taped and asked to be moved. An officer tells her she can be placed back in "detox."

Video:
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353186




I am still catching up here today.   Thank you everyone for all the great links.

So glad to see Billie in Jail.

Hope they keep her in detox and the b%tch gets the screaming mimis from her not having her drugs of choice.

Maybe they should wave the bottle of drugs in front of her face while they ask questions about herself, Shawn and Hailey...the b%tch be talking then.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 03:46:28 PM
NewsWest 9
Billie Dunn has just bonded out and has walked out of the Mitchell County Jail.

http://www.facebook.com/newswest9

could a local find out if she used her house for bail, TIA

Not with that low of a bond

I read that her family put up the bond.  Link? MB

Any names yet?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 18, 2011, 03:49:38 PM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html

KTXS EXCLUSIVE: More Child Porn Found Connected To Suspect In Hailey Dunn CaseBy George Levesque, KTXS News Director
POSTED: 12:36 pm CDT March 18, 2011
UPDATED: 2:35 pm CDT March 18, 2011
 
SNYDER, Texas -- Search warrant affidavits acquired by KTXS through the Freedom of Information Act show the warrant used by law enforcement in Scurry County Thursday night was used to look for more child pornography.

According to the warrant affidavit, law enforcement believes that Shawn Adkins, the only named suspect in the disappearance of 13 year old Hailey Dunn of Colorado City, is in possession of child pornography, namely, visual material like photographs and video footage.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Gypsy DD on March 18, 2011, 03:52:18 PM
I hope she likes the color orange, I have a feeling when this ends she is going to have only ONE choice of colors ::MonkeyTongue::

Yuck..that dirty b%tch didn't even wash her face..she still has that freakin black eyeliner and mascara on....can't look bad for our camera time....and orange does become her. ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Gypsy DD on March 18, 2011, 03:58:40 PM
An interesting bit from the BJD Support FB

Quote
About the child porn and stuff.. to have that much on one computer indicates a js exploit virus and any law enforcement with computer knowlege knows this. It's impossible for one person to download that much because it... would take years.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall)

What this person is alleging is that a virus took over the computer and downloaded all of these images without anyone's knowledge.  If I had 109,000 images of anything on my computer, I think I would become aware of it, especially if my computer was infected by a virus.

As far as it being impossible to download that many images, a GA man earlier this year was convicted of downloading over 200,000 such images. ::MonkeyNoNo::



That's total bs. A person can easily download that many pics from the net.

 ::rhino:: LOL

And I suppose the virus did this on different computer, the DVD and the thumb drive too..and all on different dates and time.

LOL  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 04:00:24 PM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html

KTXS EXCLUSIVE: More Child Porn Found Connected To Suspect In Hailey Dunn CaseBy George Levesque, KTXS News Director
POSTED: 12:36 pm CDT March 18, 2011
UPDATED: 2:35 pm CDT March 18, 2011
 
SNYDER, Texas -- Search warrant affidavits acquired by KTXS through the Freedom of Information Act show the warrant used by law enforcement in Scurry County Thursday night was used to look for more child pornography.

According to the warrant affidavit, law enforcement believes that Shawn Adkins, the only named suspect in the disappearance of 13 year old Hailey Dunn of Colorado City, is in possession of child pornography, namely, visual material like photographs and video footage.

 ::snipping2::

Remember what he deleted while being questioned?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Gypsy DD on March 18, 2011, 04:00:54 PM
NewsWest 9
Billie Dunn has just bonded out and has walked out of the Mitchell County Jail.

http://www.facebook.com/newswest9

could a local find out if she used her house for bail, TIA

Not with that low of a bond

I read that her family put up the bond.  Link? MB

Any names yet?


Probaly either Shawn, her family or her drug dealer..or all of the above. ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: 4myjoey on March 18, 2011, 04:01:23 PM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html


The affidavits confirmed that pornography has been found on a second computer that Adkins used – and on his personal cell phone.

The warrant also mentions that 2 Kodak Easy Share cameras were in the home, and that pornographic images found on Adkins' phone were taken on a Kodak Easy Share camera. Investigators planned to seize the two cameras looking for more evidence.


The warrant, issued by the district judge in Scurry County, gave law enforcement the right to take cameras, cell phones, computers, printers, and other devices which may contain child pornography.



There's more than 108,000?????


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Gypsy DD on March 18, 2011, 04:03:55 PM
NewsWest 9
Billie Dunn has just bonded out and has walked out of the Mitchell County Jail.

http://www.facebook.com/newswest9

Knew that was coming.  Yeesh.  Now go run back home to (insert corny music here) "staaaaannnnd byyyy yeeeerrr maaaaannnnn."

Yep..I hear Loretta crooning that in the background now.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 18, 2011, 04:04:17 PM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html

KTXS EXCLUSIVE: More Child Porn Found Connected To Suspect In Hailey Dunn CaseBy George Levesque, KTXS News Director
POSTED: 12:36 pm CDT March 18, 2011
UPDATED: 2:35 pm CDT March 18, 2011
 
SNYDER, Texas -- Search warrant affidavits acquired by KTXS through the Freedom of Information Act show the warrant used by law enforcement in Scurry County Thursday night was used to look for more child pornography.

According to the warrant affidavit, law enforcement believes that Shawn Adkins, the only named suspect in the disappearance of 13 year old Hailey Dunn of Colorado City, is in possession of child pornography, namely, visual material like photographs and video footage.

 ::snipping2::

From this same article (http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html)

 ::snipping2::
In the affidavit, he stated that pornographic images had been found on every electronic device connected to Adkins that law enforcement has been able to search.
 ::snipping2::

Geez...addicted a little!?!?!??!  Ya - pretty sure this can't be blamed on a virus.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 18, 2011, 04:09:15 PM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html

KTXS EXCLUSIVE: More Child Porn Found Connected To Suspect In Hailey Dunn CaseBy George Levesque, KTXS News Director
POSTED: 12:36 pm CDT March 18, 2011
UPDATED: 2:35 pm CDT March 18, 2011
 
SNYDER, Texas -- Search warrant affidavits acquired by KTXS through the Freedom of Information Act show the warrant used by law enforcement in Scurry County Thursday night was used to look for more child pornography.

According to the warrant affidavit, law enforcement believes that Shawn Adkins, the only named suspect in the disappearance of 13 year old Hailey Dunn of Colorado City, is in possession of child pornography, namely, visual material like photographs and video footage.

 ::snipping2::

Remember what he deleted while being questioned?

Capp--I think that it was the cell call records.  Hmmm, not too sure.  Maybe someone else will remember.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on March 18, 2011, 04:09:43 PM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html

KTXS EXCLUSIVE: More Child Porn Found Connected To Suspect In Hailey Dunn CaseBy George Levesque, KTXS News Director
POSTED: 12:36 pm CDT March 18, 2011
UPDATED: 2:35 pm CDT March 18, 2011
 
SNYDER, Texas -- Search warrant affidavits acquired by KTXS through the Freedom of Information Act show the warrant used by law enforcement in Scurry County Thursday night was used to look for more child pornography.

According to the warrant affidavit, law enforcement believes that Shawn Adkins, the only named suspect in the disappearance of 13 year old Hailey Dunn of Colorado City, is in possession of child pornography, namely, visual material like photographs and video footage.

 ::snipping2::

From this same article (http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html)

 ::snipping2::
In the affidavit, he stated that pornographic images had been found on every electronic device connected to Adkins that law enforcement has been able to search.
 ::snipping2::

Geez...addicted a little!?!?!??!  Ya - pretty sure this can't be blamed on a virus.

Just thinking..I wonder if Shawn downloaded the lastest porn after the other porn was taken from the home....the man obviously couldn't exist without it.  I'll be curious to see when the lastest cache was downlaoded. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Shell on March 18, 2011, 04:12:00 PM
An interesting bit from the BJD Support FB

Quote
About the child porn and stuff.. to have that much on one computer indicates a js exploit virus and any law enforcement with computer knowlege knows this. It's impossible for one person to download that much because it... would take years.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall)

What this person is alleging is that a virus took over the computer and downloaded all of these images without anyone's knowledge.  If I had 109,000 images of anything on my computer, I think I would become aware of it, especially if my computer was infected by a virus.

As far as it being impossible to download that many images, a GA man earlier this year was convicted of downloading over 200,000 such images. ::MonkeyNoNo::



I have seen a virus hit a computer but never to my knowledge has it downloaded images that were reported on the computer at Shawn's moms. Is that even possible?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on March 18, 2011, 04:12:26 PM
Hmmm..could it be possible Shawn also sold porn over the internet...I mean with his own private picture gallery?

I am sure that would have delighted Billie.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Gypsy DD on March 18, 2011, 04:16:47 PM
An interesting bit from the BJD Support FB

Quote
About the child porn and stuff.. to have that much on one computer indicates a js exploit virus and any law enforcement with computer knowlege knows this. It's impossible for one person to download that much because it... would take years.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall)

What this person is alleging is that a virus took over the computer and downloaded all of these images without anyone's knowledge.  If I had 109,000 images of anything on my computer, I think I would become aware of it, especially if my computer was infected by a virus.

As far as it being impossible to download that many images, a GA man earlier this year was convicted of downloading over 200,000 such images. ::MonkeyNoNo::



I have seen a virus hit a computer but never to my knowledge has it downloaded images that were reported on the computer at Shawn's moms. Is that even possible?

Shell...in a word..no.

Remember the porn was also found on a thumb drive and also a DVD..you have to plug them into the computer...and the virus would not have attached itself to every electronic device the man owns, his mother and his grnmother owns.

Nor did the virus then push the DVD and thumb drive from the computer, skip across town and hide them in Billie's bedroom.

But knowing Billie this is what we are gonna hear next.... ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 04:21:36 PM
Janet, considering our show last week despite what behind the scenes she had to be aware of by LE, she still came on defiantly & tried to lie her face off. 

Well, Scared Monkeys is hearing it first BTH will be having an update on our show next week & our guest will be Rich Cooper who is Hailey's uncle (Clint's brother-in-law).   It is a show everyone will not want to miss.   An official announcement of the show will be available shortly.


Thanks for the heads up Capp.

Janet

++++

IslandMonkey
Re: Hailey Dunn #8 2/25/11 -
« Reply #477 on: February 28, 2011, 01:42:49 AM »


No clue whether this is rumor or not.......just reposting:

Richy Cooper, Hailey's Uncle just posted this on FB

Richy Cooper
Ok, Know that I speak only for myself and that this is just my opinion and should involve no one but myself. I believe that Shawn raped and killed Hailey in the middle of the night and then told Billie what had happened, that's when they co...ncocted their story. I think he dismembered her the next morning in the 2 hours he had in ccity and then took her to a hidden location to dispose of her. I don't think we'll find her. I am writing this, barely able to see through my tears as I hate the thoughts I have about what has happened to this precious neice of mine. Fred I'm so sorry! I personally think that for pedophiles, child pornographers, beast lovers and the like, that prison is too good for them. I believe that they should all be placed into a room together in groups of 20 and given a single dull knife and then told when there is only one, we'll feed you. Do that each day till they're all gone. Then maybe the next "Hailey" will get to have her life and love and children of her own.

http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=2638812607171373610

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9448.msg1308545#msg1308545


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 04:21:53 PM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html

KTXS EXCLUSIVE: More Child Porn Found Connected To Suspect In Hailey Dunn CaseBy George Levesque, KTXS News Director
POSTED: 12:36 pm CDT March 18, 2011
UPDATED: 2:35 pm CDT March 18, 2011
 
SNYDER, Texas -- Search warrant affidavits acquired by KTXS through the Freedom of Information Act show the warrant used by law enforcement in Scurry County Thursday night was used to look for more child pornography.

According to the warrant affidavit, law enforcement believes that Shawn Adkins, the only named suspect in the disappearance of 13 year old Hailey Dunn of Colorado City, is in possession of child pornography, namely, visual material like photographs and video footage.

 ::snipping2::

Remember what he deleted while being questioned?

Capp--I think that it was the cell call records.  Hmmm, not too sure.  Maybe someone else will remember.

Yes he tried to deleted stuff right under their noses, computer forensic experts were able to retrieve it


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 18, 2011, 04:23:24 PM
KTXS EXCLUSIVE: More Child Porn Found Connected To Suspect In Hailey Dunn Case
POSTED: 12:36 pm CDT March 18, 2011
UPDATED: 3:10 pm CDT March 18, 2011

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html

snips
SNYDER, Texas -- More pornography – including child pornography – has been found on devices used by Shawn Adkins
The affidavits stated that pornography has been found on a second computer that Adkins used – and on his personal cell phone.


what an idiot,he didnt think that puter would get looked at



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 04:24:06 PM
Janet, considering our show last week despite what behind the scenes she had to be aware of by LE, she still came on defiantly & tried to lie her face off. 

Well, Scared Monkeys is hearing it first BTH will be having an update on our show next week & our guest will be Rich Cooper who is Hailey's uncle (Clint's brother-in-law).   It is a show everyone will not want to miss.   An official announcement of the show will be available shortly.


Thanks for the heads up Capp.

Janet

++++

IslandMonkey
Re: Hailey Dunn #8 2/25/11 -
« Reply #477 on: February 28, 2011, 01:42:49 AM »


No clue whether this is rumor or not.......just reposting:

Richy Cooper, Hailey's Uncle just posted this on FB

Richy Cooper
Ok, Know that I speak only for myself and that this is just my opinion and should involve no one but myself. I believe that Shawn raped and killed Hailey in the middle of the night and then told Billie what had happened, that's when they co...ncocted their story. I think he dismembered her the next morning in the 2 hours he had in ccity and then took her to a hidden location to dispose of her. I don't think we'll find her. I am writing this, barely able to see through my tears as I hate the thoughts I have about what has happened to this precious neice of mine. Fred I'm so sorry! I personally think that for pedophiles, child pornographers, beast lovers and the like, that prison is too good for them. I believe that they should all be placed into a room together in groups of 20 and given a single dull knife and then told when there is only one, we'll feed you. Do that each day till they're all gone. Then maybe the next "Hailey" will get to have her life and love and children of her own.

http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=2638812607171373610

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9448.msg1308545#msg1308545

One and the same - we'll provide the link for the upcoming when it becomes available


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: starwynn on March 18, 2011, 04:24:33 PM
Per KTAB
Billie Dunn has been arraigned -- bond totals $6,500.

Thanks TexasTater

If Billie were my daughter ... out of love ... for her own well being and ... the possibility that the truth would be forthcoming in regardings to my missing granddaughter ... my prayer would be that the $6500.00 bond amount is not raised.

Maybe ... just maybe ... without drugs in Billie's system ... a conscience will emerge and ... her precious daughter ... not despicable Shawn ... will become her focus.

Janet



If she were YOUR daughter, but she's the daughter of a druggie and serial jailbird.  trying so hard to catch up.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: starwynn on March 18, 2011, 04:29:54 PM
http://www.kvmckaum.blogspot.com/

Click here to listen to live local news about Billie's arrest. Very interesting.

Also interviews Shawn !

I feel this is a very resourceful link.
CLICK ON THE RIGHT SIDE TO LISTEN, LIVE NOW. I AM LISTENING AS I TYPE.

LEP,

Do you hear anything because they are not discussing it now
That she is in Detox. Bond has been set. Shawn said he told "everything" that he knows.
They also STATED that BOTH r persons of interest.

I will leave it on all day and listen. They have a lot of good info on it. I do not rem. who gave an interview n BD's arrest, but he talked a lot. I was  upstairs. Sorry ! :-( This is up to the date local news and I think it will be repeated all day. There is a link on the page where u may be able to request a transcript ?

I'm not surprised she's in detox.  And I wouldn't be surprised if it was for something for her nose, rather than swallowing.  She looks tweaky, and although she has been crying, she was very very fidgety and cokey looking - imo.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: starwynn on March 18, 2011, 04:33:01 PM
Thank you for the radio link.    It is interesting to listen to the locals.   I believe  one of the local supporters of Billie Dunn - Cat - is a photographer for this radio station.    Since I read this and saw her on FB,  I can't confirm.    Plus, the FB page I was reading, Cat was removed/banned as a member for breaking a rule.

Anyway, did you all notice that Billie Jean has new highlights in her hair?  Wonder when she did that?

I agree with Capp that Billie is not smart making the choice of denying having a lawyer represent her.  Even though I believe she is guilty, along with Shawn, in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn, everyone should be represented by an attorney in court.   At the very least to help them navigate and understand what is occurring.

I believe this is a small beginning to everything falling out.   I hope that Big Country will start being objective in their reporting and stop protecting or softening the facts surrounding Billie Jean.  They are not asking any difficult questions and they had plenty of opportunity with her.   JMOO

Bostonlady, are you referring to the same Cat that appears to be an admin of the Help Find Hailey Dunn FB page that seems to largely defend Billie & brought a ton of drama  over to Hailey Dunn Open Discussion FB page and then banned?   Well isnt that rather interesting...hmmm   

I have denoted several times that some of the local articles are not only minimizing the facts of this case but also printing quite a few inaccuracies consistently.   PK appearing to be more the "official spin doctor" rather than deferring to the LE departments he has NO say or jurisdiction in.   He is the Colorado City City Manager, which means he deals with the budget & supervises CC's local fire, police, emergency depts -- he has no authority over any other LE branch such as Texas Rangers, FBI or DA's office.    IF PK cant even report that a person was indeed arrested versus spinning it to  "led in for questioning" when facts indicate otherwise, Id venture to say that nothing he says can be relied upon on and/or taken as fact.   PK didnt do himself or Colorado City any favors by appearing as a tool!

At this point, when PK throws some "thing" at the wall and it sticks, it's largely accident, and even then he is so vague with his wording he misrepresents things.  Like last night, people were asking if SA was arrested and he said he was "picked up" which anyone is going to take as yes - arrested.  As I said last night, I didn't have my redneck decoder ring on, so it's nearly impossible to see what his vagueries mean at any given time.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: starwynn on March 18, 2011, 04:34:09 PM
NewsWest 9
Billie Dunn has just bonded out and has walked out of the Mitchell County Jail.

http://www.facebook.com/newswest9

Knew that was coming.  Yeesh.  Now go run back home to (insert corny music here) "staaaaannnnd byyyy yeeeerrr maaaaannnnn."

Her supporters have been rallying since last night to bond her out, so I'm not surprised.

NOthing like empowering drugged out mommies.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: starwynn on March 18, 2011, 04:35:12 PM
Janet, considering our show last week despite what behind the scenes she had to be aware of by LE, she still came on defiantly & tried to lie her face off. 

Well, Scared Monkeys is hearing it first BTH will be having an update on our show next week & our guest will be Rich Cooper who is Hailey's uncle (Clint's brother-in-law).   It is a show everyone will not want to miss.   An official announcement of the show will be available shortly.


I look forward to that. 






Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: starwynn on March 18, 2011, 04:36:34 PM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html


The affidavits confirmed that pornography has been found on a second computer that Adkins used – and on his personal cell phone.

The warrant also mentions that 2 Kodak Easy Share cameras were in the home, and that pornographic images found on Adkins' phone were taken on a Kodak Easy Share camera. Investigators planned to seize the two cameras looking for more evidence.


The warrant, issued by the district judge in Scurry County, gave law enforcement the right to take cameras, cell phones, computers, printers, and other devices which may contain child pornography.



There's more than 108,000?????

I knew there were two - I just knew it by the language that BD was using!  Now - they say porn, but they don't specify whether or not it's child porn.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: starwynn on March 18, 2011, 04:37:43 PM
An interesting bit from the BJD Support FB

Quote
About the child porn and stuff.. to have that much on one computer indicates a js exploit virus and any law enforcement with computer knowlege knows this. It's impossible for one person to download that much because it... would take years.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall)

What this person is alleging is that a virus took over the computer and downloaded all of these images without anyone's knowledge.  If I had 109,000 images of anything on my computer, I think I would become aware of it, especially if my computer was infected by a virus.

As far as it being impossible to download that many images, a GA man earlier this year was convicted of downloading over 200,000 such images. ::MonkeyNoNo::



I have seen a virus hit a computer but never to my knowledge has it downloaded images that were reported on the computer at Shawn's moms. Is that even possible?

That is one of the top three excuses that people caught with child porn on their computer use.  The amount that he had, not possible.  Not without accessing one at least, imo.  Correct me if I'm wrong.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 18, 2011, 04:38:57 PM
Hmmm..could it be possible Shawn also sold porn over the internet...I mean with his own private picture gallery?

I am sure that would have delighted Billie.

I'm sure that's what they'll try to find out.  I posted the Texas statutes differentiating between possession and intent to move porn on the last set of threads, and that was my thinking.  We need to know the definitions between the two, and what constitutes "across state lines" to keep up with this case, because I'm sure it's going to come up; it has to.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 18, 2011, 04:40:03 PM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html

KTXS EXCLUSIVE: More Child Porn Found Connected To Suspect In Hailey Dunn CaseBy George Levesque, KTXS News Director
POSTED: 12:36 pm CDT March 18, 2011
UPDATED: 2:35 pm CDT March 18, 2011
 
SNYDER, Texas -- Search warrant affidavits acquired by KTXS through the Freedom of Information Act show the warrant used by law enforcement in Scurry County Thursday night was used to look for more child pornography.

According to the warrant affidavit, law enforcement believes that Shawn Adkins, the only named suspect in the disappearance of 13 year old Hailey Dunn of Colorado City, is in possession of child pornography, namely, visual material like photographs and video footage.

 ::snipping2::

Remember what he deleted while being questioned?

Capp--I think that it was the cell call records.  Hmmm, not too sure.  Maybe someone else will remember.

Capp, when I read the affadavit that he did that, ever since I have been WAITING for this moment.  I knew it was something huge - I mean HUGE - if he felt so strongly about it that he deleted it right in front of the guy's face.
Yes he tried to deleted stuff right under their noses, computer forensic experts were able to retrieve it


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 18, 2011, 04:40:39 PM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html

KTXS EXCLUSIVE: More Child Porn Found Connected To Suspect In Hailey Dunn CaseBy George Levesque, KTXS News Director
POSTED: 12:36 pm CDT March 18, 2011
UPDATED: 2:35 pm CDT March 18, 2011
 
SNYDER, Texas -- Search warrant affidavits acquired by KTXS through the Freedom of Information Act show the warrant used by law enforcement in Scurry County Thursday night was used to look for more child pornography.

According to the warrant affidavit, law enforcement believes that Shawn Adkins, the only named suspect in the disappearance of 13 year old Hailey Dunn of Colorado City, is in possession of child pornography, namely, visual material like photographs and video footage.

 ::snipping2::

Remember what he deleted while being questioned?

Capp--I think that it was the cell call records.  Hmmm, not too sure.  Maybe someone else will remember.

Capp, when I read the affadavit that he did that, ever since I have been WAITING for this moment.  I knew it was something huge - I mean HUGE - if he felt so strongly about it that he deleted it right in front of the guy's face.
Yes he tried to deleted stuff right under their noses, computer forensic experts were able to retrieve it


This is mine - sorry I invaded your box.  I was looking for another cup of cappuccino like that gorgeous one last night.  lol


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Shell on March 18, 2011, 04:41:27 PM
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/mslaitte/CRIME-TRIAL/HAILEY%20DUNN/BDUNNmugshot31711.gif)
Billie Jean Dunn-Dumm's Mug Shot

Strung out & ticked

It does look like she got her hair cut & highlighted recently...but really who creates their eyebrows to look like that  ::MonkeyNoNo::

A most unbecoming shot of her. She is looking chit faced (I love that phrase and it is just what she looks like to me) I am really glad she is too stupid to ask for a public defender.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 18, 2011, 04:44:29 PM
http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/

UPDATED (with photos): Mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn admitted she lied to police


    * By Greg Kendall-Ball
    * Abilene Reporter-News
    * Posted March 18, 2011 at 11 a.m., updated March 18, 2011 at 3:13 p.m.

(http://media.reporternews.com/media/img/photos/2011/03/18/0319_loc_AB_DunnMug_t607.JPG)

UPDATE 3:10 p.m.: Billie Jean Dunn admitted this afternoon to lying to police about the whereabouts of her former live-in boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.

After her release from the Mitchell County Jail, Dunn briefly addressed the media outside her home in Colorado City this afternoon.

“He (Adkins) had come over here on his own and I had called his mother to come get him,” Dunn said.

Dunn was asked if she was lying about not knowing what happened to her daughter, Hailey Dunn, who was last seen Dec. 27.

“I am not lying," Dunn said. "Clint (Hailey's father) and I are doing everything we can to look for her (Hailey).”

Dunn's mother posted her bond, allowing her to be released from jail after getting charged with three misdemeanors Thursday evening.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on March 18, 2011, 04:52:38 PM
BD photos
http://www.reporternews.com/photos/2011/mar/18/79360/
http://www.reporternews.com/photos/2011/mar/18/79359/
http://www.reporternews.com/photos/2011/mar/18/79361/
http://www.reporternews.com/photos/2011/mar/18/79362/
http://www.reporternews.com/photos/2011/mar/18/79363/


Thnx for every one of these links.
Nice bags under her eyes, and BTW
I could not even afford the highlights this trip
to the shop, only color on my roots.
Geez, nice she has $$ to blow, and that she is more
concerned about HOW she loks than searching for her baby !


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 04:56:11 PM
http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/

UPDATED (with photos): Mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn admitted she lied to police


    * By Greg Kendall-Ball
    * Abilene Reporter-News
    * Posted March 18, 2011 at 11 a.m., updated March 18, 2011 at 3:13 p.m.

(http://media.reporternews.com/media/img/photos/2011/03/18/0319_loc_AB_DunnMug_t607.JPG)

UPDATE 3:10 p.m.: Billie Jean Dunn admitted this afternoon to lying to police about the whereabouts of her former live-in boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.

After her release from the Mitchell County Jail, Dunn briefly addressed the media outside her home in Colorado City this afternoon.

“He (Adkins) had come over here on his own and I had called his mother to come get him,” Dunn said.    LIE

Dunn was asked if she was lying about not knowing what happened to her daughter, Hailey Dunn, who was last seen Dec. 27.

“I am not lying," Dunn said. "Clint (Hailey's father) and I are doing everything we can to look for her (Hailey).”  LIE

Dunn's mother posted her bond, allowing her to be released from jail after getting charged with three misdemeanors Thursday evening.
 ::snipping2::


Dunn'es mother better get her head out of the sand & advise her daughter to start telling the truth or it may be too late, IMHO.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: cw618 on March 18, 2011, 04:57:23 PM
BD photos
http://www.reporternews.com/photos/2011/mar/18/79360/
http://www.reporternews.com/photos/2011/mar/18/79359/
http://www.reporternews.com/photos/2011/mar/18/79361/
http://www.reporternews.com/photos/2011/mar/18/79362/
http://www.reporternews.com/photos/2011/mar/18/79363/


Thnx for every one of these links.
Nice bags under her eyes, and BTW
I could not even afford the highlights this trip
to the shop, only color on my roots.
Geez, nice she has $$ to blow, and that she is more
concerned about HOW she loks than searching for her baby !

hey gotta look good for her CPkingscumbagazzzzbf


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 05:00:52 PM
"Clint (Hailey's father) and I are doing everything we can to look for her (Hailey).”   Billie Dunn
http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/

And one more thing, how dare she associate herself with Clint by that statement!    She is NOT doing everything she can, that is for dang skippy certain!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 18, 2011, 05:01:52 PM
UPDATE 3:10 p.m.: Billie Jean Dunn admitted this afternoon to lying to police about the whereabouts of her former live-in boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.
After her release from the Mitchell County Jail, Dunn briefly addressed the media outside her home in Colorado City this afternoon.

and did that without counsel,lawyer, unbelievable


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 18, 2011, 05:02:10 PM
 ::snipping2::
J. Bruce Flournoy, a deputy with the Garza County Sheriff's Office and computer forensics expert, requested the warrant.

In the affidavit, he stated that pornographic images had been found on every electronic device connected to Adkins that law enforcement has been able to search.
Adkins, according to the affidavit, doesn't own a computer and has been using friends' and relatives' computers. All of the other users of those computers, according to the affidavit, deny any knowledge of child pornography on their devices. ::snipping2::



http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 05:06:09 PM
UPDATE: Billie Admits to Lying to Police

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353136

Friday, 3 p.m. Update:
In a statement to Bigcountryhomepage.com's Andrew Carlson, Billie admitted lying to police about the whereabouts of Shawn Adkins. She didn't want to explain why.  She said Shawn was at her house because he wanted to talk to her about something, but she didn't specify what.

The drug charge against her is bogus, she said, because while her name wasn't on the label, it was her own prescription.
 ::snipping2::


Who is she kidding?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Curly on March 18, 2011, 05:15:14 PM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html


The affidavits confirmed that pornography has been found on a second computer that Adkins used – and on his personal cell phone.

The warrant also mentions that 2 Kodak Easy Share cameras were in the home, and that pornographic images found on Adkins' phone were taken on a Kodak Easy Share camera. Investigators planned to seize the two cameras looking for more evidence.


The warrant, issued by the district judge in Scurry County, gave law enforcement the right to take cameras, cell phones, computers, printers, and other devices which may contain child pornography.



There's more than 108,000?????

OMG. Bad enough child porn on a home computer, but on a cell phone?
Who the hell does that?
They are as dumb as rocks. Unbelievable.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 05:35:24 PM
Hmmm..could it be possible Shawn also sold porn over the internet...I mean with his own private picture gallery?

I am sure that would have delighted Billie.

IF it is determined that Shawn was a participant in the downloading of the 108,000 images that investigators recovered on the computer found at the home of HIS mother ... at this point in time ... I am willing to give Billie the benefit of the doubt that she was unaware of any child porn.

If the child porn images are determined by investigators to be connected to Shawn ... I am inclined to believe that Billie will "thrown her boyfriend under the bus" in regards to what she knows that pertains to the disappearing of her daughter.

Janet

++++++


DOUBTING BILLIE?

Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Billie Jean Dunn: Blog Talk Radio Interview March 2


<snipped>

Host: Are you sure nothing happened in that house between Shawn and Hailey?

Billie Dunn: I’m not 100 percent sure any more. I know nothing was found here, but I’m still not 100 percent sure. A lot of my feelings have changed just since this weekend. I really been standing behind him, and believing he’s the person I always knew he was, but I just have a little bit of doubt now, and you’ve gotta, I don’t know, if there’s some doubt out there, how are you stand behind him?

<snipped>

Host: Do you think Shawn might know where Hailey is?

Billie Dunn: I don’t, I didn’t ever believe that, but I don’t really know. I don’t know anything any more. I hope not. I didn’t see it in him, but maybe there’s a lot of things I didn’t know about him.

<snipped>

Billie Dunn: Because of the computer, and I don’t know who looked at that, and who did not, and until that’s proved to me, I can’t risk believing anything he says. I know they’ll be able to find out who looked at it, whenever dates and times come back.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-transcript-billie-jean-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-2/
 
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/03/bring-them-home-now--exclusive-billy-dunn-speaks-out-maybe-for-the-last-time



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 18, 2011, 05:38:50 PM
http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/

UPDATED (with photos): Mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn admitted she lied to police


    * By Greg Kendall-Ball
    * Abilene Reporter-News
    * Posted March 18, 2011 at 11 a.m., updated March 18, 2011 at 3:13 p.m.

(http://media.reporternews.com/media/img/photos/2011/03/18/0319_loc_AB_DunnMug_t607.JPG)

UPDATE 3:10 p.m.: Billie Jean Dunn admitted this afternoon to lying to police about the whereabouts of her former live-in boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.

After her release from the Mitchell County Jail, Dunn briefly addressed the media outside her home in Colorado City this afternoon.

“He (Adkins) had come over here on his own and I had called his mother to come get him,” Dunn said.    LIE

Dunn was asked if she was lying about not knowing what happened to her daughter, Hailey Dunn, who was last seen Dec. 27.

“I am not lying," Dunn said. "Clint (Hailey's father) and I are doing everything we can to look for her (Hailey).”  LIE

Dunn's mother posted her bond, allowing her to be released from jail after getting charged with three misdemeanors Thursday evening.
 ::snipping2::


Dunn'es mother better get her head out of the sand & advise her daughter to start telling the truth or it may be too late, IMHO.

Stupid is as stupid does. ::CowboySmiley::

BTW, I wonder how she knew to take orange lipstick with her to the pokey?  How ironic that orange was Hailey's favorite color.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 05:45:31 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Billie

What have you got to say?  Do you still loooove Shawn?

Janet

++++++


KTXS EXCLUSIVE: More Child Porn Found Connected To Suspect In Hailey Dunn Case
POSTED: 12:36 pm CDT March 18, 2011
UPDATED: 3:38 pm CDT March 18, 2011


SNYDER, Texas -- According to law enforcement authorities, more pornography – including child pornography – has been found on devices used by Shawn Adkins, the only named suspect in the disappearance of Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn.

According to search warrant affidavits acquired Friday by KTXS through the Freedom of Information Act, a warrant used by law enforcement in Scurry County on Thursday was specifically intended to look for more child pornography on computers, discs and other digital devices Adkins has been using.

The affidavits stated that pornography has been found on a second computer that Adkins used – and on his personal cell phone.

The files containing the pornography had been deleted but were recovered by law enforcement experts in computer and digital forensics.

According to the affidavit, law enforcement believes that Adkins was in possession of child pornography, namely visual material like photographs and video footage.

The affidavit confirms earlier reports by KTXS that child pornography was found on a computer at the home of Adkins' mother, where Adkins had access to the computer, and on a memory stick in the home of Hailey Dunn in Colorado City.

<snipped>

LOTS MORE:
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 05:46:52 PM
http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/

UPDATED (with photos): Mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn admitted she lied to police


    * By Greg Kendall-Ball
    * Abilene Reporter-News
    * Posted March 18, 2011 at 11 a.m., updated March 18, 2011 at 3:13 p.m.

(http://media.reporternews.com/media/img/photos/2011/03/18/0319_loc_AB_DunnMug_t607.JPG)

UPDATE 3:10 p.m.: Billie Jean Dunn admitted this afternoon to lying to police about the whereabouts of her former live-in boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.

After her release from the Mitchell County Jail, Dunn briefly addressed the media outside her home in Colorado City this afternoon.

“He (Adkins) had come over here on his own and I had called his mother to come get him,” Dunn said.

Dunn was asked if she was lying about not knowing what happened to her daughter, Hailey Dunn, who was last seen Dec. 27.

“I am not lying," Dunn said. "Clint (Hailey's father) and I are doing everything we can to look for her (Hailey).”

Dunn's mother posted her bond, allowing her to be released from jail after getting charged with three misdemeanors Thursday evening.
 ::snipping2::


Thanks Klaas.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 05:56:38 PM

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Billie

What have you got to say?  Do you still loooove Shawn?

Janet

++++++


KTXS EXCLUSIVE: More Child Porn Found Connected To Suspect In Hailey Dunn Case
POSTED: 12:36 pm CDT March 18, 2011
UPDATED: 3:38 pm CDT March 18, 2011


SNYDER, Texas -- According to law enforcement authorities, more pornography – including child pornography – has been found on devices used by Shawn Adkins, the only named suspect in the disappearance of Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn.

According to search warrant affidavits acquired Friday by KTXS through the Freedom of Information Act, a warrant used by law enforcement in Scurry County on Thursday was specifically intended to look for more child pornography on computers, discs and other digital devices Adkins has been using.

The affidavits stated that pornography has been found on a second computer that Adkins used – and on his personal cell phone.

The files containing the pornography had been deleted but were recovered by law enforcement experts in computer and digital forensics.

According to the affidavit, law enforcement believes that Adkins was in possession of child pornography, namely visual material like photographs and video footage.

The affidavit confirms earlier reports by KTXS that child pornography was found on a computer at the home of Adkins' mother, where Adkins had access to the computer, and on a memory stick in the home of Hailey Dunn in Colorado City.

<snipped>

LOTS MORE:
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html



DENY DENY

Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Shawn Adkins: Blog Talk Radio Interview March 3


<snipped>

Host: What do you say to the allegations about child pornography?

Shawn Adkins: I was shocked when I heard about it. Like I said, I had a hard time believing it. I still do. I don’t wanna believe that that type of stuff is on my mother’s computer. All I know is that I did not put them there, and I had no knowledge about it, and neither did my mother or my brother.

Host: Who do you think put ‘em on there?

Shawn Adkins: I have no idea. There’s been so many people use that computer, it’d be hard to say. I know it wasn’t me, my mother, or my brother.
 
Host: Does anyone come to mind?

Shawn Adkins: A couple of people.

Host: Could you say who they are?

Shawn Adkins: I, I’d really choose not to say who they are at this moment.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-transcript-shawn-adkins-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-3/

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/04/bring-them-home-now-exclusive-shawn-adkins-speaks-out


Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Shawn Adkins: Blog Talk Radio Interview March 3

<snipped>

Host: Who has access to that computer?

Shawn Adkins: Oh, there’s many people. I’m saying ten plus people have had access to that computer. A bunch of people have.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-transcript-shawn-adkins-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-3/

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/04/bring-them-home-now-exclusive-shawn-adkins-speaks-out



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 06:10:50 PM
What is a  Kodak Easy Share camera?

Thanks

Janet

+++++


KTXS EXCLUSIVE: More Child Porn Found Connected To Suspect In Hailey Dunn Case
POSTED: 12:36 pm CDT March 18, 2011
UPDATED: 3:38 pm CDT March 18, 2011


<snipped>

Adkins' grandmother's home in southern Scurry County is the same home where investigators served the warrant Thursday and took electronic devices. Another resident of that home told authorities that Adkins used the computer "all the time," according to the affidavit.

The warrant also mentions that two Kodak Easy Share cameras were in the home, and that some of the pornographic images were taken or transmitted via a Kodak Easy Share camera. Investigators planned to seize the two cameras, among the many other devices, looking for more evidence.

The warrant, issued by District Judge Ernie Armstrong in Scurry County, gave law enforcement the right to take cameras, cell phones, computers, printers and other devices that may contain child pornography.

J. Bruce Flournoy, a deputy with the Garza County Sheriff's Office and computer forensics expert, requested the warrant.

<snipped>

LOTS MORE:
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on March 18, 2011, 06:14:57 PM
What is a  Kodak Easy Share camera?

Thanks

Janet Here u go !


http://store.kodak.com/store/ekconsus/en_US/pd/Z915_Digital_Camera/productID.145103400

+++++


KTXS EXCLUSIVE: More Child Porn Found Connected To Suspect In Hailey Dunn Case
POSTED: 12:36 pm CDT March 18, 2011
UPDATED: 3:38 pm CDT March 18, 2011


<snipped>

Adkins' grandmother's home in southern Scurry County is the same home where investigators served the warrant Thursday and took electronic devices. Another resident of that home told authorities that Adkins used the computer "all the time," according to the affidavit.

The warrant also mentions that two Kodak Easy Share cameras were in the home, and that some of the pornographic images were taken or transmitted via a Kodak Easy Share camera. Investigators planned to seize the two cameras, among the many other devices, looking for more evidence.

The warrant, issued by District Judge Ernie Armstrong in Scurry County, gave law enforcement the right to take cameras, cell phones, computers, printers and other devices that may contain child pornography.

J. Bruce Flournoy, a deputy with the Garza County Sheriff's Office and computer forensics expert, requested the warrant.

<snipped>

LOTS MORE:
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on March 18, 2011, 06:15:15 PM
http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/

UPDATED (with photos): Mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn admitted she lied to police


    * By Greg Kendall-Ball
    * Abilene Reporter-News
    * Posted March 18, 2011 at 11 a.m., updated March 18, 2011 at 3:13 p.m.

(http://media.reporternews.com/media/img/photos/2011/03/18/0319_loc_AB_DunnMug_t607.JPG)

UPDATE 3:10 p.m.: Billie Jean Dunn admitted this afternoon to lying to police about the whereabouts of her former live-in boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.

After her release from the Mitchell County Jail, Dunn briefly addressed the media outside her home in Colorado City this afternoon.

“He (Adkins) had come over here on his own and I had called his mother to come get him,” Dunn said.    LIE

Dunn was asked if she was lying about not knowing what happened to her daughter, Hailey Dunn, who was last seen Dec. 27.

“I am not lying," Dunn said. "Clint (Hailey's father) and I are doing everything we can to look for her (Hailey).”  LIE

Dunn's mother posted her bond, allowing her to be released from jail after getting charged with three misdemeanors Thursday evening.
 ::snipping2::


Dunn'es mother better get her head out of the sand & advise her daughter to start telling the truth or it may be too late, IMHO.

Seriously, that was the best she could come up with?? LMAO, I am sure he was just there for a "little bit".........guess she is too fruked up to realize everyone in town is watching her and there have been sightings of her and honeybuns all over town..

Also Capp, IIRC - the calls he deleted in front of LE were to Billie and I think it was to her cell phone, but need to double check......I just remember thinking at the time wth would he call her cell phone that she left at home (well that among many other things I can't say hear of I would be banned for vile language) ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 06:21:28 PM
An interesting bit from the BJD Support FB

Quote
About the child porn and stuff.. to have that much on one computer indicates a js exploit virus and any law enforcement with computer knowlege knows this. It's impossible for one person to download that much because it... would take years.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Support-Page/150491525008834?sk=wall)

<snipped by Tamikosmom>


KTXS EXCLUSIVE: More Child Porn Found Connected To Suspect In Hailey Dunn Case
POSTED: 12:36 pm CDT March 18, 2011
UPDATED: 3:38 pm CDT March 18, 2011


<snipped>

Adkins' grandmother's home in southern Scurry County is the same home where investigators served the warrant Thursday and took electronic devices. Another resident of that home told authorities that Adkins used the computer "all the time," according to the affidavit.

<snipped>

LOTS MORE:
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 06:22:49 PM
What is a  Kodak Easy Share camera?

Thanks

Janet

+++++

KTXS EXCLUSIVE: More Child Porn Found Connected To Suspect In Hailey Dunn Case
POSTED: 12:36 pm CDT March 18, 2011
UPDATED: 3:38 pm CDT March 18, 2011


<snipped>

Adkins' grandmother's home in southern Scurry County is the same home where investigators served the warrant Thursday and took electronic devices. Another resident of that home told authorities that Adkins used the computer "all the time," according to the affidavit.

The warrant also mentions that two Kodak Easy Share cameras were in the home, and that some of the pornographic images were taken or transmitted via a Kodak Easy Share camera. Investigators planned to seize the two cameras, among the many other devices, looking for more evidence.

The warrant, issued by District Judge Ernie Armstrong in Scurry County, gave law enforcement the right to take cameras, cell phones, computers, printers and other devices that may contain child pornography.

J. Bruce Flournoy, a deputy with the Garza County Sheriff's Office and computer forensics expert, requested the warrant.

<snipped>

LOTS MORE:
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html


Here u go !

http://store.kodak.com/store/ekconsus/en_US/pd/Z915_Digital_Camera/productID.145103400


Thanks LEP

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 06:29:42 PM
http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/

UPDATED (with photos): Mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn admitted she lied to police


    * By Greg Kendall-Ball
    * Abilene Reporter-News
    * Posted March 18, 2011 at 11 a.m., updated March 18, 2011 at 3:13 p.m.

(http://media.reporternews.com/media/img/photos/2011/03/18/0319_loc_AB_DunnMug_t607.JPG)

UPDATE 3:10 p.m.: Billie Jean Dunn admitted this afternoon to lying to police about the whereabouts of her former live-in boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.

After her release from the Mitchell County Jail, Dunn briefly addressed the media outside her home in Colorado City this afternoon.

“He (Adkins) had come over here on his own and I had called his mother to come get him,” Dunn said.

Dunn was asked if she was lying about not knowing what happened to her daughter, Hailey Dunn, who was last seen Dec. 27.

“I am not lying," Dunn said. "Clint (Hailey's father) and I are doing everything we can to look for her (Hailey).”

Dunn's mother posted her bond, allowing her to be released from jail after getting charged with three misdemeanors Thursday evening.

 ::snipping2::


I cannot comprehend why parents believe it is "love" to abet their kids in avoiding the consequenes of illegal wrongdoing.  How are lessons to be learned ... lessons that will teach them how to travel down avenues in life that are beneficial to their well-being and other around them.

Janet



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 18, 2011, 06:32:07 PM
::snipping2::
J. Bruce Flournoy, a deputy with the Garza County Sheriff's Office and computer forensics expert, requested the warrant.

In the affidavit, he stated that pornographic images had been found on every electronic device connected to Adkins that law enforcement has been able to search.
Adkins, according to the affidavit, doesn't own a computer and has been using friends' and relatives' computers. All of the other users of those computers, according to the affidavit, deny any knowledge of child pornography on their devices. ::snipping2::

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html


ya know all the people that are denying, that they didnt know the porn, was on
their puter,well they could be telling the truth,i hide and encrypt some folders
files on my puter, not that many people use my puter,but just in case,id rather
they didnt find,my links and files to my finances,ect,here is a link to make the
file invisible,i use a diff method,that i think is better, the one in the link
doesnt involve any software download,so the not so savvy owner wouldnt know there
was a hidden file

Make your computer folders invisible
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/402973/how_to_make_an_invisible_folder_on_your_computer/

http://www.iambetterthanu.com/2007/10/09/create-an-invisible-folder/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 06:38:04 PM
::snipping2::
J. Bruce Flournoy, a deputy with the Garza County Sheriff's Office and computer forensics expert, requested the warrant.

In the affidavit, he stated that pornographic images had been found on every electronic device connected to Adkins that law enforcement has been able to search.
Adkins, according to the affidavit, doesn't own a computer and has been using friends' and relatives' computers. All of the other users of those computers, according to the affidavit, deny any knowledge of child pornography on their devices. ::snipping2::

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html


ya know all the people that are denying, that they didnt know the porn, was on
their puter,well they could be telling the truth,i hide and encrypt some folders
files on my puter, not that many people use my puter,but just in case,id rather
they didnt find,my links and files to my finances,ect,here is a link to make the
file invisible,i use a diff method,that i think is better, the one in the link
doesnt involve any software download,so the not so savvy owner wouldnt know there
was a hidden file

Make your computer folders invisible
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/402973/how_to_make_an_invisible_folder_on_your_computer/

http://www.iambetterthanu.com/2007/10/09/create-an-invisible-folder/


Doesnt matter a forensic computer expert can find anything & nothing is ever erased completely from a computer unless the hard drive is totally destroyed.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 18, 2011, 06:56:48 PM
::snipping2::
J. Bruce Flournoy, a deputy with the Garza County Sheriff's Office and computer forensics expert, requested the warrant.

In the affidavit, he stated that pornographic images had been found on every electronic device connected to Adkins that law enforcement has been able to search.
Adkins, according to the affidavit, doesn't own a computer and has been using friends' and relatives' computers. All of the other users of those computers, according to the affidavit, deny any knowledge of child pornography on their devices. ::snipping2::

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html


ya know all the people that are denying, that they didnt know the porn, was on
their puter,well they could be telling the truth,i hide and encrypt some folders
files on my puter, not that many people use my puter,but just in case,id rather
they didnt find,my links and files to my finances,ect,here is a link to make the
file invisible,i use a diff method,that i think is better, the one in the link
doesnt involve any software download,so the not so savvy owner wouldnt know there
was a hidden file

Make your computer folders invisible
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/402973/how_to_make_an_invisible_folder_on_your_computer/

http://www.iambetterthanu.com/2007/10/09/create-an-invisible-folder/


Doesnt matter a forensic computer expert can find anything & nothing is ever erased completely from a computer unless the hard drive is totally destroyed.

Garza County is another rural county about 100 miles north of CCity.  I wonder if that is the closest computer forensic expert that could be found.  I would feel much better if the warrant came from a Texas Ranger computer forensic or, even better, an FBI.  Not knocking Officer's Flournoy's expertise, but just saying.  Hoping that it was just his name on the warrant and that he has some more high powered folks working with him. 

BTW - the "Easy Share" brand name camera was initially marketed by Kodak to camera buyers who were not technically savy and wanted to download digital images to computers, etc. without much hassle. ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 18, 2011, 07:02:55 PM
UPDATE: Billie Admits to Lying to Police

vid short just a couple of Qs by media
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353136


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 18, 2011, 07:15:23 PM
::snipping2::
J. Bruce Flournoy, a deputy with the Garza County Sheriff's Office and computer forensics expert, requested the warrant.

In the affidavit, he stated that pornographic images had been found on every electronic device connected to Adkins that law enforcement has been able to search.
Adkins, according to the affidavit, doesn't own a computer and has been using friends' and relatives' computers. All of the other users of those computers, according to the affidavit, deny any knowledge of child pornography on their devices. ::snipping2::

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html


ya know all the people that are denying, that they didnt know the porn, was on
their puter,well they could be telling the truth,i hide and encrypt some folders
files on my puter, not that many people use my puter,but just in case,id rather
they didnt find,my links and files to my finances,ect,here is a link to make the
file invisible,i use a diff method,that i think is better, the one in the link
doesnt involve any software download,so the not so savvy owner wouldnt know there
was a hidden file

Make your computer folders invisible
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/402973/how_to_make_an_invisible_folder_on_your_computer/

http://www.iambetterthanu.com/2007/10/09/create-an-invisible-folder/


Doesnt matter a forensic computer expert can find anything & nothing is ever erased completely from a computer unless the hard drive is totally destroyed.

Garza County is another rural county about 100 miles north of CCity.  I wonder if that is the closest computer forensic expert that could be found.  I would feel much better if the warrant came from a Texas Ranger computer forensic or, even better, an FBI.  Not knocking Officer's Flournoy's expertise, but just saying.  Hoping that it was just his name on the warrant and that he has some more high powered folks working with him. 

BTW - the "Easy Share" brand name camera was initially marketed by Kodak to camera buyers who were not technically savy and wanted to download digital images to computers, etc. without much hassle. ::CowboySmiley::


Perhaps he has a reputation for being the best in his field, and that is why he was
called in for 100 miles away.  We just don't know.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cadillac on March 18, 2011, 07:16:49 PM
http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/

UPDATED (with photos): Mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn admitted she lied to police


    * By Greg Kendall-Ball
    * Abilene Reporter-News
    * Posted March 18, 2011 at 11 a.m., updated March 18, 2011 at 3:13 p.m.

(http://media.reporternews.com/media/img/photos/2011/03/18/0319_loc_AB_DunnMug_t607.JPG)

UPDATE 3:10 p.m.: Billie Jean Dunn admitted this afternoon to lying to police about the whereabouts of her former live-in boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.

After her release from the Mitchell County Jail, Dunn briefly addressed the media outside her home in Colorado City this afternoon.

“He (Adkins) had come over here on his own and I had called his mother to come get him,” Dunn said.

Dunn was asked if she was lying about not knowing what happened to her daughter, Hailey Dunn, who was last seen Dec. 27.

“I am not lying," Dunn said. "Clint (Hailey's father) and I are doing everything we can to look for her (Hailey).”

Dunn's mother posted her bond, allowing her to be released from jail after getting charged with three misdemeanors Thursday evening.
 ::snipping2::

Once a liar always a liar.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 07:17:24 PM
::snipping2::
J. Bruce Flournoy, a deputy with the Garza County Sheriff's Office and computer forensics expert, requested the warrant.

In the affidavit, he stated that pornographic images had been found on every electronic device connected to Adkins that law enforcement has been able to search.
Adkins, according to the affidavit, doesn't own a computer and has been using friends' and relatives' computers. All of the other users of those computers, according to the affidavit, deny any knowledge of child pornography on their devices. ::snipping2::

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html


ya know all the people that are denying, that they didnt know the porn, was on
their puter,well they could be telling the truth,i hide and encrypt some folders
files on my puter, not that many people use my puter,but just in case,id rather
they didnt find,my links and files to my finances,ect,here is a link to make the
file invisible,i use a diff method,that i think is better, the one in the link
doesnt involve any software download,so the not so savvy owner wouldnt know there
was a hidden file

Make your computer folders invisible
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/402973/how_to_make_an_invisible_folder_on_your_computer/

http://www.iambetterthanu.com/2007/10/09/create-an-invisible-folder/


Doesnt matter a forensic computer expert can find anything & nothing is ever erased completely from a computer unless the hard drive is totally destroyed.

Garza County is another rural county about 100 miles north of CCity.  I wonder if that is the closest computer forensic expert that could be found.  I would feel much better if the warrant came from a Texas Ranger computer forensic or, even better, an FBI.  Not knocking Officer's Flournoy's expertise, but just saying.  Hoping that it was just his name on the warrant and that he has some more high powered folks working with him. 

BTW - the "Easy Share" brand name camera was initially marketed by Kodak to camera buyers who were not technically savy and wanted to download digital images to computers, etc. without much hassle. ::CowboySmiley::

I'm pretty sure upon an initial review J. Bruce Flournoy, a deputy with the Garza County Sheriff's Office and computer forensics expert  was more than capable of determining that a further search warrant was deemed appropriate.  I am rather confident that when it comes to analyzing all this evidence that very established expert(s) will be conducting the daunting task with every single item.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 07:29:33 PM
UPDATE: Billie Admits to Lying to Police

vid short just a couple of Qs by media
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353136


What is so amazing is how insulting Billie is the public by assuming we would be naive enough to believe her lies.   Just how many times can she say that Shawn was there to pick up some of his things or stopped by because he wanted to talk to her.   They have been seen together consistently, its about time she got snagged with it.


And another thing, if Shawn didnt want to talk to LE that doesnt mean she had to lie for him.    It also doesnt automatically mean that he may be stupid enough to try & hide in her house realizing LE had to know he was indeed there.  There is a very good chance it was Billie not wanting Shawn to talk to LE.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on March 18, 2011, 07:31:13 PM
::snipping2::
J. Bruce Flournoy, a deputy with the Garza County Sheriff's Office and computer forensics expert, requested the warrant.

In the affidavit, he stated that pornographic images had been found on every electronic device connected to Adkins that law enforcement has been able to search.
Adkins, according to the affidavit, doesn't own a computer and has been using friends' and relatives' computers. All of the other users of those computers, according to the affidavit, deny any knowledge of child pornography on their devices. ::snipping2::

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html


ya know all the people that are denying, that they didnt know the porn, was on
their puter,well they could be telling the truth,i hide and encrypt some folders
files on my puter, not that many people use my puter,but just in case,id rather
they didnt find,my links and files to my finances,ect,here is a link to make the
file invisible,i use a diff method,that i think is better, the one in the link
doesnt involve any software download,so the not so savvy owner wouldnt know there
was a hidden file

Make your computer folders invisible
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/402973/how_to_make_an_invisible_folder_on_your_computer/

http://www.iambetterthanu.com/2007/10/09/create-an-invisible-folder/


Doesnt matter a forensic computer expert can find anything & nothing is ever erased completely from a computer unless the hard drive is totally destroyed.

Garza County is another rural county about 100 miles north of CCity.  I wonder if that is the closest computer forensic expert that could be found.  I would feel much better if the warrant came from a Texas Ranger computer forensic or, even better, an FBI.  Not knocking Officer's Flournoy's expertise, but just saying.  Hoping that it was just his name on the warrant and that he has some more high powered folks working with him. 

BTW - the "Easy Share" brand name camera was initially marketed by Kodak to camera buyers who were not technically savy and wanted to download digital images to computers, etc. without much hassle. ::CowboySmiley::

I'm pretty sure upon an initial review J. Bruce Flournoy, a deputy with the Garza County Sheriff's Office and computer forensics expert  was more than capable of determining that a further search warrant was deemed appropriate.  I am rather confident that when it comes to analyzing all this evidence that very established expert(s) will be conducting the daunting task with every single item.
ITA Capp.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on March 18, 2011, 07:32:04 PM
UPDATE: Billie Admits to Lying to Police

vid short just a couple of Qs by media
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353136


What is so amazing is how insulting Billie is the public by assuming we would be naive enough to believe her lies.   Just how many times can she say that Shawn was there to pick up some of his things or stopped by because he wanted to talk to her.   They have been seen together consistently, its about time she got snagged with it.


And another thing, if Shawn didnt want to talk to LE that doesnt mean she had to lie for him.    It also doesnt automatically mean that he may be stupid enough to try & hide in her house realizing LE had to know he was indeed there.  There is a very good chance it was Billie not wanting Shawn to talk to LE.

BINGO!!!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Gypsy DD on March 18, 2011, 07:34:17 PM
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/mslaitte/CRIME-TRIAL/HAILEY%20DUNN/BDUNNmugshot31711.gif)
Billie Jean Dunn-Dumm's Mug Shot

Strung out & ticked

It does look like she got her hair cut & highlighted recently...but really who creates their eyebrows to look like that  ::MonkeyNoNo::

A most unbecoming shot of her. She is looking chit faced (I love that phrase and it is just what she looks like to me) I am really glad she is too stupid to ask for a public defender.

ITA Shell..and she also looks dirty ..still the same ugly black eyeliner and greasy face..she's pissed and in withdraw..bet Mommy ran over today with some "meds" to take the edge off once dirty girl got home.  Oh wait Mommy is tryin now to be a good druggie too..well Shawn made sure to have the right stuff there then so he didn't have to hear a lot of chit about jail from her.  But she doesn't look like a coke head nor a tweeker to me..more like oxycodone and it's fellow narcotic friends.

 ::MonkeyEek:: 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cadillac on March 18, 2011, 07:35:12 PM
OK - let's see - drugs - pills -pornography - videos of all of the above -stripping - lying about who knows what -a child having to break into his own home one afternoon - more lying - masks - videos of the mask escapades - getting stoned videos - more lying - discovery of  downloads of crime documents in their home - porn on the computer - porn on a memory stick stuffed in a drawer in the home - other child removed from the home - more lying - there was something very sinister going on in that home.  It is not rocket science.    There is something VERY wrong with what is going on in that home.

We all make mistakes, folks.  All famililes have issues.  But this is LYING.  BJD either had something to do with Hailey's disapperance or she made it happen. 

If my daughter was "missing" - hell hath no fury....


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 18, 2011, 07:47:21 PM
UPDATE: Billie Admits to Lying to Police

vid short just a couple of Qs by media
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353136


What is so amazing is how insulting Billie is the public by assuming we would be naive enough to believe her lies.   Just how many times can she say that Shawn was there to pick up some of his things or stopped by because he wanted to talk to her.   They have been seen together consistently, its about time she got snagged with it.


And another thing, if Shawn didnt want to talk to LE that doesnt mean she had to lie for him.    It also doesnt automatically mean that he may be stupid enough to try & hide in her house realizing LE had to know he was indeed there.  There is a very good chance it was Billie not wanting Shawn to talk to LE.

BINGO!!!

I don't know if LE could have searched BJD's house without her consent.  She may not have known that, but they would have had to have probable cause to enter the house without her permission.  My relative was involved in a similar situation and the police knew she was in the house but since she wasn't a resident of the house, they had to wait until she came outside before they could do anything.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on March 18, 2011, 07:48:11 PM
UPDATE: Billie Admits to Lying to Police

vid short just a couple of Qs by media
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353136


What is so amazing is how insulting Billie is the public by assuming we would be naive enough to believe her lies.   Just how many times can she say that Shawn was there to pick up some of his things or stopped by because he wanted to talk to her.   They have been seen together consistently, its about time she got snagged with it.


And another thing, if Shawn didnt want to talk to LE that doesnt mean she had to lie for him.    It also doesnt automatically mean that he may be stupid enough to try & hide in her house realizing LE had to know he was indeed there.  There is a very good chance it was Billie not wanting Shawn to talk to LE.

 ::rhino:: ::rhino:: Go ahead pillBillie, dig a deeper hole for yourself ::MonkeyShovel:: Who on earth can think she is NOT involved? She has never stopped "being with " the #1 suspect, adjusted her timeline and announced a presser so she can give some absurd reasoning as to why his phone pinged where it did after the info came out in the affadavits aka covering for him yet again, and now decides it is ok to lie to LE since Shawn didn't want to talk to them ::MonkeyDevil:: Alrighty then.......who does she really think she is fooling (other than a handful of the koolaide drinkers who were worried sick about her in jail)..........all of that among a list a mile long shows she is in as deep as Shawn in either the coverup if not the event that led to Hailey "leaving" IMOO




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 07:54:16 PM
Sheriff: Unclear if Child Porn Discovered in Thursday's Search Please include the link!!  MuffyBee


Friday, 4:30 p.m. Update:
Authorities say it's too early to tell if additional child pornography was discovered in the search of Shawn Adkins' grandmother's home in Dunn Thursday evening.
Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs says a number of electronic devices were removed from the home. Those devices will be sent for testing.

Toombs says this is the third search of the home in Dunn, Texas. He said the second search was consensual. Toombs noted pornography was discovered in the second search, but he couldn't confirm it to be child pornography. Toombs says the images are in the process of being analyzed.

Adkins is the only named suspect in the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.

Toombs added that Adkins does not own his own computer. However, investigators have reason to believe Adkins regularly uses the computer in his grandmother's home.

Friday, 4:30 p.m. Update:
Authorities confiscated  electronic items from the home where suspect Shawn Adkins lives in the Scurry County community of Dunn.  They were serving a search warrant out of Scurry County.

A second search warrant, served Thursday evening at the home of Billie Dunn, was a warrant for Adkins' body, signed by a Howard County judge.  According to Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs, they were looking for an item Adkins commonly carries with him.  He did not have it on him, Toombs said.

I think it may have been another thumb drive, maybe on a key chain.   Did they really expect to find it at this late date on his person, I bet its somewhere in Billie's house where she tried to conceal him OR way gone weeks ago.

AND YET AGAIN PK and Toombs in direct contradiction to things reported by other media sources or information being released from the DA's office.    Compare these statements to what is reported by this station:   http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html

Sidebar note:  There is no question in my mind now, there is a political component by CC's officials causing them not to be on the same page as the DA or other LE agencies...its getting me rather furious too because I dont give a dang about positioning or politics when it interferes with a serious crime against an innocent child or any criminal investigation for that matter.   Also worthy of note, if CC did the right thing regarding Hailey's "disappearance" from the very beginning we wouldnt be a day late and a dollar short from getting the answers in this case.   The entire concept of her being a runaway & not having their eyes wide open to the obvious even for a day set this investigation in the wrong direction & gave the responsible parties time to plot.   Again, I dont mince words & at this point Im too livid not to speak my mind.

In another case yesterday, a clerk tried to use the Casey Anthony trial in an argument she was having over budgeting concerns for her dept & caused a major stir until it was determined she not only misspoke but used the case in an attempt to influence.   Needless to say, she looked the fool as her claims were a total fabrication for affect & Im sure she can look forward to some rather serious fallout, justifiably so.

My God keep personal hidden agendas, egos and politics out of criminal investigations & prosecution.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 07:57:31 PM
UPDATE: Billie Admits to Lying to Police

vid short just a couple of Qs by media
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353136


What is so amazing is how insulting Billie is the public by assuming we would be naive enough to believe her lies.   Just how many times can she say that Shawn was there to pick up some of his things or stopped by because he wanted to talk to her.   They have been seen together consistently, its about time she got snagged with it.


And another thing, if Shawn didnt want to talk to LE that doesnt mean she had to lie for him.    It also doesnt automatically mean that he may be stupid enough to try & hide in her house realizing LE had to know he was indeed there.  There is a very good chance it was Billie not wanting Shawn to talk to LE.

BINGO!!!

I don't know if LE could have searched BJD's house without her consent.  She may not have known that, but they would have had to have probable cause to enter the house without her permission.  My relative was involved in a similar situation and the police knew she was in the house but since she wasn't a resident of the house, they had to wait until she came outside before they could do anything.

That is not what I meant sweetie.   I said that Shawn may have hidden it in her house as LE arrived if it was on his person (they can get a search warrant for her home with probable cause) OR he got rid of it long ago.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 08:00:10 PM
UPDATE: Billie Admits to Lying to Police

vid short just a couple of Qs by media
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353136


What is so amazing is how insulting Billie is the public by assuming we would be naive enough to believe her lies.   Just how many times can she say that Shawn was there to pick up some of his things or stopped by because he wanted to talk to her.   They have been seen together consistently, its about time she got snagged with it.


And another thing, if Shawn didnt want to talk to LE that doesnt mean she had to lie for him.    It also doesnt automatically mean that he may be stupid enough to try & hide in her house realizing LE had to know he was indeed there.  There is a very good chance it was Billie not wanting Shawn to talk to LE.

BINGO!!!

joesamas mama

Anticipating an "arrest" warrant ... is it possible that LE arrived at Grandma's home with a search warrant ... Shawn hightailed it to Billie's home and ... "ordered" Billie silence regarding his whereabouts.

I am not condoning but ... something tells me that intimidation is why Billie may be distancing Shawn from implication in the disappearance of her daughter.  Could it be that both Billie and Shawn are participants in the internet child porn industry ... an illegal activity that if exposed could land Hailey and David's mother behind bars for years?

If there was only one computer that had all those images stored ... it would seem reasonable to suspect only Shawn but ... when that stuff was on found on so many electronic devices ... some seized from Billie's home ...

Billie's reaction to the latest child porn revelation will be very telling.  If she continues to distance Shawn ...

The implications of this child porn revelation may be very far reaching.

Janet



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 18, 2011, 08:00:19 PM
  ::snipping2:: There is a very good chance it was Billie not wanting Shawn to talk to LE.

Here, here.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 18, 2011, 08:02:51 PM
This been posted?

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353316

Billie Dunn Says She Has Protective Order against Shawn Adkins

Reported by: Laura Kellerman and Priscilla Luong
Friday, March 18 2011
Billie Dunn, whose 13-year-old daughter has been missing since last December, says she has a protective order against Shawn Adkins, her former live-in boyfriend and the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance.

Billie Dunn called KTAB reporter Priscilla Luong to inform her of the protective order, saying she had forgotten to mention it in the news conference she gave this afternoon.

Dunn was arrested Thursday night after police came to her house looking for Adkins, and she lied to investigators, telling them he wasn't inside.  She was charged with hindering apprehension or prosecution, false report to a police officer, and possession of dangerous drugs.  She was released Friday morning on $6,500 bond.

The protective order was filed as a direct result of what happened last night, Dunn told Luong.  The filing cannot be confirmed at this time because the courts are closed.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 08:08:37 PM
This been posted?

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353316

Billie Dunn Says She Has Protective Order against Shawn Adkins

Reported by: Laura Kellerman and Priscilla Luong
Friday, March 18 2011
Billie Dunn, whose 13-year-old daughter has been missing since last December, says she has a protective order against Shawn Adkins, her former live-in boyfriend and the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance.

Billie Dunn called KTAB reporter Priscilla Luong to inform her of the protective order, saying she had forgotten to mention it in the news conference she gave this afternoon.

Dunn was arrested Thursday night after police came to her house looking for Adkins, and she lied to investigators, telling them he wasn't inside.  She was charged with hindering apprehension or prosecution, false report to a police officer, and possession of dangerous drugs.  She was released Friday morning on $6,500 bond.

The protective order was filed as a direct result of what happened last night, Dunn told Luong.  The filing cannot be confirmed at this time because the courts are closed.

 ::snipping2::

What a bunch of bunk!   She was told to stay away from him until and if he was cleared by LE long ago, several times as a matter of fact.  She didnt request a PO on him because she wanted it, she knows she is in deep trouble.    She LIED for him willingly and now is trying to get out of that even if only in the public's eye.

The fact that she "forgot" to mention it indicates to me what importance she placed on it.  If she means to stay away from Shawn, stop protecting Shawn and/or herself her statement would have started wtih "I no longer have any association to Shawn Adkins & have requested a PO against him so he stays away from me (here it is).   O no, that is not what she did.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 18, 2011, 08:11:45 PM
This been posted?

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353316

Billie Dunn Says She Has Protective Order against Shawn Adkins

Reported by: Laura Kellerman and Priscilla Luong
Friday, March 18 2011
Billie Dunn, whose 13-year-old daughter has been missing since last December, says she has a protective order against Shawn Adkins, her former live-in boyfriend and the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance.

Billie Dunn called KTAB reporter Priscilla Luong to inform her of the protective order, saying she had forgotten to mention it in the news conference she gave this afternoon.

Dunn was arrested Thursday night after police came to her house looking for Adkins, and she lied to investigators, telling them he wasn't inside.  She was charged with hindering apprehension or prosecution, false report to a police officer, and possession of dangerous drugs.  She was released Friday morning on $6,500 bond.

The protective order was filed as a direct result of what happened last night, Dunn told Luong.  The filing cannot be confirmed at this time because the courts are closed.

 ::snipping2::

I have horses, and I know horse crap when I see it.  Convenient that she has one now.  Ohhh Kay.  Protective order won't keep him away from her if she invites him in.  Nice way to CYA.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on March 18, 2011, 08:12:02 PM
I've not read here in a couple of days due to a terrible sinus infection; however, today I come back and all this excitement has been going on....still...all about Billie...how much drama can this one person make out of herself when the goal is to find her daughter?  Now, possible porn on the cell phone, too?  Billie looks 50 years old in her mug shot.  There's definately a problem with her and how she is about Shawn...even though she's heard he's had an affair and texting nude photos of himself to other women.  Hello?  Personally, I'm of the opinion that Shawn is seriously bad off - mentally.  Why can't LE nab this guy for somthing?

All-in-all, it's still DISGUSTING!!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 08:14:05 PM
I've not read here in a couple of days due to a terrible sinus infection; however, today I come back and all this excitement has been going on....still...all about Billie...how much drama can this one person make out of herself when the goal is to find her daughter?  Now, possible porn on the cell phone, too?  Billie looks 50 years old in her mug shot.  There's definately a problem with her and how she is about Shawn...even though she's heard he's had an affair and texting nude photos of himself to other women.  Hello?  Personally, I'm of the opinion that Shawn is seriously bad off - mentally.  Why can't LE nab this guy for somthing?

All-in-all, it's still DISGUSTING!!

Your feelings of disgust & frustration are shared by way too many....I hope you are feeling better hon


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 08:14:42 PM
This been posted?

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353316

Billie Dunn Says She Has Protective Order against Shawn Adkins

Reported by: Laura Kellerman and Priscilla Luong
Friday, March 18 2011
Billie Dunn, whose 13-year-old daughter has been missing since last December, says she has a protective order against Shawn Adkins, her former live-in boyfriend and the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance.

Billie Dunn called KTAB reporter Priscilla Luong to inform her of the protective order, saying she had forgotten to mention it in the news conference she gave this afternoon.

Dunn was arrested Thursday night after police came to her house looking for Adkins, and she lied to investigators, telling them he wasn't inside.  She was charged with hindering apprehension or prosecution, false report to a police officer, and possession of dangerous drugs.  She was released Friday morning on $6,500 bond.

The protective order was filed as a direct result of what happened last night, Dunn told Luong.  The filing cannot be confirmed at this time because the courts are closed.

 ::snipping2::

I do believe that truths are about to be exposed in the Hailey Dunn case.

Janet

++++++


Anticipating an "arrest" warrant ... is it possible that LE arrived at Grandma's home with a search warrant ... Shawn hightailed it to Billie's home and ... "ordered" Billie silence regarding his whereabouts.

I am not condoning but ... something tells me that intimidation is why Billie may be distancing Shawn from implication in the disappearance of her daughter.  Could it be that both Billie and Shawn are participants in the internet child porn industry ... an illegal activity that if exposed could land Hailey and David's mother behind bars for years?

If there was only one computer that had all those images stored ... it would seem reasonable to suspect only Shawn but ... when that stuff was on found on so many electronic devices ... some seized from Billie's home ...

Billie's reaction to the latest child porn revelation will be very telling.  If she continues to distance Shawn ...

The implications of this child porn revelation may be very far reaching.

Janet



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Shell on March 18, 2011, 08:21:34 PM
BD photos
http://www.reporternews.com/photos/2011/mar/18/79360/
http://www.reporternews.com/photos/2011/mar/18/79359/
http://www.reporternews.com/photos/2011/mar/18/79361/
http://www.reporternews.com/photos/2011/mar/18/79362/
http://www.reporternews.com/photos/2011/mar/18/79363/


Thnx for every one of these links.
Nice bags under her eyes, and BTW
I could not even afford the highlights this trip
to the shop, only color on my roots.
Geez, nice she has $$ to blow, and that she is more
concerned about HOW she loks than searching for her baby !

LOL...she is not all that concerned about how she looks. If she were she might lay off the drugs. Highlights are not helping that girl.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Shell on March 18, 2011, 08:25:59 PM
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/mslaitte/CRIME-TRIAL/HAILEY%20DUNN/BDUNNmugshot31711.gif)
Billie Jean Dunn-Dumm's Mug Shot

Strung out & ticked

It does look like she got her hair cut & highlighted recently...but really who creates their eyebrows to look like that  ::MonkeyNoNo::

A most unbecoming shot of her. She is looking chit faced (I love that phrase and it is just what she looks like to me) I am really glad she is too stupid to ask for a public defender.

ITA Shell..and she also looks dirty ..still the same ugly black eyeliner and greasy face..she's pissed and in withdraw..bet Mommy ran over today with some "meds" to take the edge off once dirty girl got home.  Oh wait Mommy is tryin now to be a good druggie too..well Shawn made sure to have the right stuff there then so he didn't have to hear a lot of chit about jail from her.  But she doesn't look like a coke head nor a tweeker to me..more like oxycodone and it's fellow narcotic friends.

 ::MonkeyEek:: 

An example of what happens when you pluck on drugs.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Shell on March 18, 2011, 08:27:52 PM
http://www.kvmckaum.blogspot.com/

Click here to listen to live local news about Billie's arrest. Very interesting.

Also interviews Shawn !

I feel this is a very resourceful link.
CLICK ON THE RIGHT SIDE TO LISTEN, LIVE NOW. I AM LISTENING AS I TYPE.

LEP,

Do you hear anything because they are not discussing it now
That she is in Detox. Bond has been set. Shawn said he told "everything" that he knows.
They also STATED that BOTH r persons of interest.

I will leave it on all day and listen. They have a lot of good info on it. I do not rem. who gave an interview n BD's arrest, but he talked a lot. I was  upstairs. Sorry ! :-( This is up to the date local news and I think it will be repeated all day. There is a link on the page where u may be able to request a transcript ?

I'm not surprised she's in detox.  And I wouldn't be surprised if it was for something for her nose, rather than swallowing.  She looks tweaky, and although she has been crying, she was very very fidgety and cokey looking - imo.


Well something is going on with that nose...she is doing a full hand rub..lol


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 08:31:45 PM
Its also interesting that Shawn canceled is appearance on BTH with the lame excuse of a cold & Billie decided to speak despite what was said.

Same with recent events, Shawn was in her house yesterday & yet she lied to LE.   They both knew that LE had to know he was there & she still lied

My point yet once again, Billie did not want Shawn talking to LE


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 08:37:16 PM
Could it be that Shawn had anticipated an "arrest" warrant and ... that is why he used Billie to avoid being apprehended?  Could it be that Shawn later learned that the warrant was for a search of his person and ... that is when he rid himself of whatever investigators looking for>

Janet

++++++

Sheriff: Unclear if Child Porn Discovered in Thursday's Search
Friday, March 18 2011


<snipped>

Friday, 4:30 p.m. Update:
Authorities confiscated  electronic items from the home where suspect Shawn Adkins lives in the Scurry County community of Dunn.  They were serving a search warrant out of Scurry County.

A second search warrant, served Thursday evening at the home of Billie Dunn, was a warrant for Adkins' body, signed by a Howard County judge.  According to Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs, they were looking for an item Adkins commonly carries with him.  He did not have it on him, Toombs said.

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353126




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on March 18, 2011, 08:37:35 PM
UPDATE: Billie Admits to Lying to Police

vid short just a couple of Qs by media
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353136


What is so amazing is how insulting Billie is the public by assuming we would be naive enough to believe her lies.   Just how many times can she say that Shawn was there to pick up some of his things or stopped by because he wanted to talk to her.   They have been seen together consistently, its about time she got snagged with it.


And another thing, if Shawn didnt want to talk to LE that doesnt mean she had to lie for him.    It also doesnt automatically mean that he may be stupid enough to try & hide in her house realizing LE had to know he was indeed there.  There is a very good chance it was Billie not wanting Shawn to talk to LE.

BINGO!!!

joesamas mama

Anticipating an "arrest" warrant ... is it possible that LE arrived at Grandma's home with a search warrant ... Shawn hightailed it to Billie's home and ... "ordered" Billie silence regarding his whereabouts.

I am not condoning but ... something tells me that intimidation is why Billie may be distancing Shawn from implication in the disappearance of her daughter.  Could it be that both Billie and Shawn are participants in the internet child porn industry ... an illegal activity that if exposed could land Hailey and David's mother behind bars for years?

If there was only one computer that had all those images stored ... it would seem reasonable to suspect only Shawn but ... when that stuff was on found on so many electronic devices ... some seized from Billie's home ...

Billie's reaction to the latest child porn revelation will be very telling.  If she continues to distance Shawn ...

The implications of this child porn revelation may be very far reaching.

Janet


Could be intimidation, could be stupidity on Billies part, but I truly believe she isn't as naive as she claims. I know people like her that can spin tales that would make you, me and the rest of SM believe. Plus if what is true, she was still around Shawn and not looking for her daughter. I can't wrap my mind around why she would still be with him unless she is covering for herself and Shawn, if she was being intimidated by him, then tell all to LE/FBI/Texas Rangers. Logic would be to tell the truth, no matter where the truth leads if she she really wants to find Hailey.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: wildmala on March 18, 2011, 08:37:35 PM
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/mslaitte/CRIME-TRIAL/HAILEY%20DUNN/BDUNNmugshot31711.gif)
Billie Jean Dunn-Dumm's Mug Shot

Strung out & ticked

It does look like she got her hair cut & highlighted recently...but really who creates their eyebrows to look like that  ::MonkeyNoNo::

A most unbecoming shot of her. She is looking chit faced (I love that phrase and it is just what she looks like to me) I am really glad she is too stupid to ask for a public defender.

ITA Shell..and she also looks dirty ..still the same ugly black eyeliner and greasy face..she's pissed and in withdraw..bet Mommy ran over today with some "meds" to take the edge off once dirty girl got home.  Oh wait Mommy is tryin now to be a good druggie too..well Shawn made sure to have the right stuff there then so he didn't have to hear a lot of chit about jail from her.  But she doesn't look like a coke head nor a tweeker to me..more like oxycodone and it's fellow narcotic friends.

 ::MonkeyEek:: 

An example of what happens when you pluck on drugs.  ::MonkeyTongue::

No kidding.  Look at her picture on her brothers (???) myspace compared to this.  Looks like one of those 'don't do drugs' comparison billboards.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Shell on March 18, 2011, 08:38:22 PM


Going to meet my daughter for dinner who is in town on business...I have not seen her since Feb... ::dogwag::

I am so glad things are moving on this case. *I think* Shawn knows what happened to Hailey and was probably responsible for it and *I think* Billie J. knows that Shawn knows and I think Billie could know a lot. Also... *I think* drugs were/are (and *I think* Shawn is also a drug to her) more important to her than her own children.





Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Shell on March 18, 2011, 08:40:03 PM


Going to meet my daughter for dinner who is in town on business...I have not seen her since Feb... ::dogwag::

I am so glad things are moving on this case. *I think* Shawn knows what happened to Hailey and was probably responsible for it and *I think* Billie J. knows that Shawn knows and I think Billie could know a lot. Also... *I think* drugs were/are (and *I think* Shawn is also a drug to her) more important to her than her own children.





I meant October...where did I get Feb, my hands have a mind of their own.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 18, 2011, 08:41:41 PM
Its also interesting that Shawn canceled is appearance on BTH with the lame excuse of a cold & Billie decided to speak despite what was said.

Same with recent events, Shawn was in her house yesterday & yet she lied to LE.   They both knew that LE had to know he was there & she still lied

My point yet once again, Billie did not want Shawn talking to LE

I think we're seeing the same thing over and over again.  Shawn says A, but Billie says B and what Billie says goes.  Again, this only reinforces my growing belief that BD is the boss here, and SA does the handywork.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on March 18, 2011, 08:42:26 PM
UPDATE: Billie Admits to Lying to Police

vid short just a couple of Qs by media
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353136


What is so amazing is how insulting Billie is the public by assuming we would be naive enough to believe her lies.   Just how many times can she say that Shawn was there to pick up some of his things or stopped by because he wanted to talk to her.   They have been seen together consistently, its about time she got snagged with it.


And another thing, if Shawn didnt want to talk to LE that doesnt mean she had to lie for him.    It also doesnt automatically mean that he may be stupid enough to try & hide in her house realizing LE had to know he was indeed there.  There is a very good chance it was Billie not wanting Shawn to talk to LE.

BINGO!!!

joesamas mama

Anticipating an "arrest" warrant ... is it possible that LE arrived at Grandma's home with a search warrant ... Shawn hightailed it to Billie's home and ... "ordered" Billie silence regarding his whereabouts.

I am not condoning but ... something tells me that intimidation is why Billie may be distancing Shawn from implication in the disappearance of her daughter.  Could it be that both Billie and Shawn are participants in the internet child porn industry ... an illegal activity that if exposed could land Hailey and David's mother behind bars for years?

If there was only one computer that had all those images stored ... it would seem reasonable to suspect only Shawn but ... when that stuff was on found on so many electronic devices ... some seized from Billie's home ...

Billie's reaction to the latest child porn revelation will be very telling.  If she continues to distance Shawn ...

The implications of this child porn revelation may be very far reaching.

Janet



IMO she will only distance herself from Shawn when she realizes how bad it looks to those who stood by her while she stuck by the suspect and called a press conference to give a timeline that basically (in her eyes) explained the pings on his phone after the affadavits came out.......Trish Roehmer (sp) was the one who stood by here thru thick and thin and last night I read where she finally had seen the light, said hindsight was 20/20 and once she was able to step back she thought she was involved to some degree......so JMO she knows public sentiment of even the hardcore supporters is turning and after lying to LE and being caught, I totally expect her to distance herself out of desperation, plus donations may be effected after letting him basically hide out in her house and lying for her.

Also, I don't think for one minute she is afraid of him and again JMO, when she called 911 that time about the t-shirt and threats, she didn't sound worried, she sounded like she was using LE as bargaining chip.....and then she still let him move in with her?? I just don't see it....


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 18, 2011, 08:48:52 PM
You know, we have told everyone a million times WE NEED THE LINKS back to the article.  I'm half tempted to start deleting posts that don't include links back.

WE NEED LINKS.  DO NOT post part of an article or blog post or Facebook comment or ANYTHING without linking back to the source.


I'm going to post this reminder in all of the active threads.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on March 18, 2011, 08:54:35 PM
I have been lurking and been trying to hold my tongue. I was getting aggravated about posts making out that West Texas LE are stupid idiots and rednecks. I truly believe from people I know in LE in Taylor Co, that they are doing everything to bring Hailey home or bring a perp to justice.

THEN I got to thinking. I say the same thing about the PD where I live in Texas. Two girls were murdered by the father right around the corner from me, because of political correctness NOTHING has or ever will be done. My friend from HS was murdered, husband big cheese at the Country Club, never was a suspect. Yes there is a good ole boy system and Billie and Shawn aren't the most upstanding citizens that would make LE cover for them.

So what I am trying to say very inarticulatly, that I hope Hailey is brought home and I now can understand the comments that have been made about LE in West Texas.

 ::MonkeyBike:: BTL will read from now on. Just wanted to get this off my chest.

Mods, if this is off topic, please delete. TIA JSM



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 09:03:57 PM

Could be intimidation, could be stupidity on Billies part, but I truly believe she isn't as naive as she claims. I know people like her that can spin tales that would make you, me and the rest of SM believe. Plus if what is true, she was still around Shawn and not looking for her daughter. I can't wrap my mind around why she would still be with him unless she is covering for herself and Shawn, if she was being intimidated by him, then tell all to LE/FBI/Texas Rangers. Logic would be to tell the truth, no matter where the truth leads if she she really wants to find Hailey.


Could it be that Billie has been told the truth by Shawn and ... she knows where Hailey is.  However ... the distancing of Shawn from implication in Hailey's disappearance stems from her fear that he will implicate her in unrelated illegal activity ... unrelated illegal activity that will put her behind bars for a long time

Could it be that the unholy alliance with Shawn is no more and ... some truths are going to emerge.  Maybe a plea deal ... a plea deal that implies that Billie will not be held fully accountable for any wrongdoing (child pornography?) ... wrongdoing that Shawn may reveal in exchange for what she has learned in regards to the events encompassing her missing daughter.

Janet

++++++


This been posted?

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353316

Billie Dunn Says She Has Protective Order against Shawn Adkins

Reported by: Laura Kellerman and Priscilla Luong
Friday, March 18 2011

Billie Dunn, whose 13-year-old daughter has been missing since last December, says she has a protective order against Shawn Adkins, her former live-in boyfriend and the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance.

Billie Dunn called KTAB reporter Priscilla Luong to inform her of the protective order, saying she had forgotten to mention it in the news conference she gave this afternoon.

Dunn was arrested Thursday night after police came to her house looking for Adkins, and she lied to investigators, telling them he wasn't inside.  She was charged with hindering apprehension or prosecution, false report to a police officer, and possession of dangerous drugs.  She was released Friday morning on $6,500 bond.

The protective order was filed as a direct result of what happened last night, Dunn told Luong.  The filing cannot be confirmed at this time because the courts are closed.

 ::snipping2::



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 18, 2011, 09:06:38 PM
Not sure if this was posted yet:

Statement Analysis - Billie Dunn Admits Lying

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/03/billie-dunn-admits-lying.html

 ::snipping2::
Billie Jean Dunn has reason to lie.


With the new release of information of child porn, it begs the question: Where does Billie Dunn get the money to buy drugs?


Did she purchase drugs with donations?
Did she and Adkins sell child porn?
The volume is extreme.


Question: What does this affidavit tells us about the status of the case: why hasn't he been arrested yet? It would seem simple, open and shut.


Answer: They are investigating the disappearance of Hailey Dunn.


Rather than arrest him for child pornography, they have been continuing to go through the "hobby" materials of these two, and are building a large case. This may be bartered in exchange for Hailey's body.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Shell on March 18, 2011, 09:12:03 PM
I have been lurking and been trying to hold my tongue. I was getting aggravated about posts making out that West Texas LE are stupid idiots and rednecks. I truly believe from people I know in LE in Taylor Co, that they are doing everything to bring Hailey home or bring a perp to justice.

THEN I got to thinking. I say the same thing about the PD where I live in Texas. Two girls were murdered by the father right around the corner from me, because of political correctness NOTHING has or ever will be done. My friend from HS was murdered, husband big cheese at the Country Club, never was a suspect. Yes there is a good ole boy system and Billie and Shawn aren't the most upstanding citizens that would make LE cover for them.

So what I am trying to say very inarticulatly, that I hope Hailey is brought home and I now can understand the comments that have been made about LE in West Texas.

 ::MonkeyBike:: BTL will read from now on. Just wanted to get this off my chest.

Mods, if this is off topic, please delete. TIA JSM



I do not think LE in West Tx are stupid idiots...but they might be rednecks(lol). Redneck does not equal stupid idiot and I do not know them so can't call them rednecks but so what if they are ... I think they are not showing their cards, which  in my opinion is a pretty smart thing to do.

There is a good old boy system in Texas but I agree, Billie and Shawn are probably out of that loop. I do not think PC applies in this case either.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 09:23:31 PM
It appears that the official spokesperson for the investigation was completely out of the loop in regards to the events encompassing the apprehension of Billie.

Janet

++++++

QUESTIONING?

Hailey Dunn's Mother, Billie, In Jail Facing Three Charges
By Jocelyn Tovar, KTXS News
POSTED: 7:38 pm CDT March 17, 2011


<snipped>

Kampfer told KTXS Thursday night he has been told she was led away and is being questioned. They did use a Colorado City officer to escort officials with the district attorney's office to the home.

Kampfer said he believes the interrogation is being initiated by the office of District Attorney Ann Reed.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27233525/detail.html


ARRESTED

UPDATE: Billie Dunn Arrested in Mitchell County
Posted: Mar 17, 2011 5:34 PM PDT
Updated: Mar 17, 2011 8:10 PM PDT


<snipped>

Dunn was arrested by the Mitchell County Sheriff's Office and the Mitchell County District Attorney's Office. Authorities went to Billie Dunn's house in Colorado City to serve a warrant out of Howard County to search what Shawn Adkins had on him.

Dunn told authorities that Adkins wasn't at the home, but he was, and as a result Dunn was arrested.

Billie Dunn has been charged with three misdemeanors. The charges are Hindering Apprehension, Possession of a Dangerous Drug and False Report to a Police Officer.

The drug charge was for a prescription drug that was in the house that Dunn did not have a prescription for.

Dunn will go before a judge tomorrow to have a bond set. The Mitchell County D.A. would not comment any further on the case, but did say that Shawn Adkins has not been arrested.

<snipped>

http://www.kwes.com/Global/story.asp?S=14274347


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 18, 2011, 09:23:57 PM

Interesting how my emotions progress with this case.  Last night I was so very sad for Hailey.  Today...I'm just downright pizzed at what may have been done to her and what she was exposed to in that house.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 18, 2011, 09:31:55 PM
My own opinion is that she will never distance herself from SA, until he has a plea deal and is specifically talking against her.  She can't afford to; he's complicit to this whole set up.  I think she will keep him til the end, even if there's no one else there beside her.

I also am certain she's not afraid of him, and now I think she only used that threat to burn him last time - even though he threatened.  I think she is the mommy to him, and of all the people who should be afraid of him - she's not one.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 18, 2011, 09:34:06 PM
I have been lurking and been trying to hold my tongue. I was getting aggravated about posts making out that West Texas LE are stupid idiots and rednecks. I truly believe from people I know in LE in Taylor Co, that they are doing everything to bring Hailey home or bring a perp to justice.

THEN I got to thinking. I say the same thing about the PD where I live in Texas. Two girls were murdered by the father right around the corner from me, because of political correctness NOTHING has or ever will be done. My friend from HS was murdered, husband big cheese at the Country Club, never was a suspect. Yes there is a good ole boy system and Billie and Shawn aren't the most upstanding citizens that would make LE cover for them.

So what I am trying to say very inarticulatly, that I hope Hailey is brought home and I now can understand the comments that have been made about LE in West Texas.

 ::MonkeyBike:: BTL will read from now on. Just wanted to get this off my chest.

Mods, if this is off topic, please delete. TIA JSM



I do not think LE in West Tx are stupid idiots...but they might be rednecks(lol). Redneck does not equal stupid idiot and I do not know them so can't call them rednecks but so what if they are ... I think they are not showing their cards, which  in my opinion is a pretty smart thing to do.

There is a good old boy system in Texas but I agree, Billie and Shawn are probably out of that loop. I do not think PC applies in this case either.


I also live in small-town TX, actually not even in town.  I know many of the deputies in the surrounding counties and many of them are hard-working and underpaid.  But you are right, there is a good ol' boy system in many of the smaller town's LE. 

That being said, most of them, no matter how well meaning or dedicated, do not handle high profile, missing person/murder cases like this on a regular basis.  I don't want to see this case botched because the local LE is over its head and won't admit it, like the Jon Benet Ramsey case in Boulder.

As a spectator without the transparency as is seen in the Florida cases, it is hard to determine whether LE in this case is just holding everything close to the vest, which is understandable, or is stumbling around in the dark.  And that Deputy who poorly handled BJD's complaint about SA's threats to her and Hailey doesn't give a whole lot of credence to what we do know about the department.

The lack of a good, consistent spokesperson for CCity hasn't helped matters, either. 
 ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on March 18, 2011, 09:36:19 PM
This been posted?

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353316

Billie Dunn Says She Has Protective Order against Shawn Adkins

Reported by: Laura Kellerman and Priscilla Luong
Friday, March 18 2011
Billie Dunn, whose 13-year-old daughter has been missing since last December, says she has a protective order against Shawn Adkins, her former live-in boyfriend and the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance.

Billie Dunn called KTAB reporter Priscilla Luong to inform her of the protective order, saying she had forgotten to mention it in the news conference she gave this afternoon.

Dunn was arrested Thursday night after police came to her house looking for Adkins, and she lied to investigators, telling them he wasn't inside.  She was charged with hindering apprehension or prosecution, false report to a police officer, and possession of dangerous drugs.  She was released Friday morning on $6,500 bond.

The protective order was filed as a direct result of what happened last night, Dunn told Luong.  The filing cannot be confirmed at this time because the courts are closed.

 ::snipping2::

What a bunch of bunk!   She was told to stay away from him until and if he was cleared by LE long ago, several times as a matter of fact.  She didnt request a PO on him because she wanted it, she knows she is in deep trouble.    She LIED for him willingly and now is trying to get out of that even if only in the public's eye.

The fact that she "forgot" to mention it indicates to me what importance she placed on it.  If she means to stay away from Shawn, stop protecting Shawn and/or herself her statement would have started wtih "I no longer have any association to Shawn Adkins & have requested a PO against him so he stays away from me (here it is).   O no, that is not what she did.

My personal take on this PO is :

1. Billie said in court to the judge Shawn was at her house without her permission, forced his way in so to speak.  She is afraid of him and that she lied because she was afraid he would hurt her if she didn't.  (A another bunch of lies for Billie to get herself out of a tough spot.)  She said this never thinking the judge would then say," Billie Jean, Let's get you a protective order so you don't have to worry about Shawn harrassing you and coming around your door anymore.

2. Billie lied to the reporter.

Persoanlly I am hoping we have ourselves number 1..the good judge who saw right through Billie's lies and insisted that if this poor women was being hounded by the number one suspect then she should have a PO..and also no contact with lover boy and co conspiritor  in this crime.  That PO must really be grinding on Billie's butt for her to call a reporter..she is just too damn much ..does she realize she is crystal clear to anyone who is not doing drugs ?

  ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyEek::::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on March 18, 2011, 09:36:43 PM
My own opinion is that she will never distance herself from SA, until he has a plea deal and is specifically talking against her.  She can't afford to; he's complicit to this whole set up.  I think she will keep him til the end, even if there's no one else there beside her.

I also am certain she's not afraid of him, and now I think she only used that threat to burn him last time - even though he threatened.  I think she is the mommy to him, and of all the people who should be afraid of him - she's not one.


ITA.....I meant distance herself but not really -just for public relations so to speak, I can see her now.."honeybuns I still love you and even though you love porn, you treated me better than anyone, but I did it for us so we can continue to sit in MY house on MY couch, watching MY big screen TV and watch horror movies and still continue to rake in donations from everyone......bla bla bla"

I feel exactly the way you just commented....and agree with every point! ::monkeywine2::



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 18, 2011, 09:39:14 PM


I think LE has PLENTY of evidence on SA regarding the child porn at this point.  But they are waiting/searching/investigating for something in particular to lead them to Hailey now.  The awaiting child porn charges can simmer for a bit.  Don't know if LE know exactly what IT is that will be the 'missing link', but it's out there...  There's no way with SA's obvious use/saving/infatuation of photos that it won't be found. 



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 09:40:15 PM

<snipped>

I am not condoning but ... something tells me that intimidation is why Billie may be distancing Shawn from implication in the disappearance of her daughter.  Could it be that both Billie and Shawn are participants in the internet child porn industry ... an illegal activity that if exposed could land Hailey and David's mother behind bars for years?

<snipped>

The implications of this child porn revelation may be very far reaching.

Janet


It appears that Peter Hyatt and Tamikosmom are on the the same page in regards to the latest happenings in the Hailey Dunn case.  We often differ.

Janet

++++++

Friday, March 18, 2011
Billie Dunn Admits Lying


<snipped>

Billie Jean Dunn has reason to lie.

With the new release of information of child porn, it begs the question: Where does Billie Dunn get the money to buy drugs?

Did she purchase drugs with donations?
Did she and Adkins sell child porn?
The volume is extreme.

<snipped>

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/03/billie-dunn-admits-lying.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 18, 2011, 09:53:48 PM
This been posted?

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353316

Billie Dunn Says She Has Protective Order against Shawn Adkins

Reported by: Laura Kellerman and Priscilla Luong
Friday, March 18 2011
Billie Dunn, whose 13-year-old daughter has been missing since last December, says she has a protective order against Shawn Adkins, her former live-in boyfriend and the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance.

Billie Dunn called KTAB reporter Priscilla Luong to inform her of the protective order, saying she had forgotten to mention it in the news conference she gave this afternoon.

Dunn was arrested Thursday night after police came to her house looking for Adkins, and she lied to investigators, telling them he wasn't inside.  She was charged with hindering apprehension or prosecution, false report to a police officer, and possession of dangerous drugs.  She was released Friday morning on $6,500 bond.

The protective order was filed as a direct result of what happened last night, Dunn told Luong.  The filing cannot be confirmed at this time because the courts are closed.

 ::snipping2::

Technicality question:  Isn't it more likely that she has applied for a PO?  Unless it is an emergency, don't you have to apply, then go to court in order to have the PO granted by a judge based on evidence?    ::MonkeyGavel::



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 18, 2011, 09:54:54 PM
My own opinion is that she will never distance herself from SA, until he has a plea deal and is specifically talking against her.  She can't afford to; he's complicit to this whole set up.  I think she will keep him til the end, even if there's no one else there beside her.

I also am certain she's not afraid of him, and now I think she only used that threat to burn him last time - even though he threatened.  I think she is the mommy to him, and of all the people who should be afraid of him - she's not one.


ITA.....I meant distance herself but not really -just for public relations so to speak, I can see her now.."honeybuns I still love you and even though you love porn, you treated me better than anyone, but I did it for us so we can continue to sit in MY house on MY couch, watching MY big screen TV and watch horror movies and still continue to rake in donations from everyone......bla bla bla"

I feel exactly the way you just commented....and agree with every point! ::monkeywine2::



Bwah ha ha on the bold.  :)

Oh, I think you're right on that - the distance-in-public-eye, for sure!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on March 18, 2011, 09:56:40 PM
I have been lurking and been trying to hold my tongue. I was getting aggravated about posts making out that West Texas LE are stupid idiots and rednecks. I truly believe from people I know in LE in Taylor Co, that they are doing everything to bring Hailey home or bring a perp to justice.

THEN I got to thinking. I say the same thing about the PD where I live in Texas. Two girls were murdered by the father right around the corner from me, because of political correctness NOTHING has or ever will be done. My friend from HS was murdered, husband big cheese at the Country Club, never was a suspect. Yes there is a good ole boy system and Billie and Shawn aren't the most upstanding citizens that would make LE cover for them.

So what I am trying to say very inarticulatly, that I hope Hailey is brought home and I now can understand the comments that have been made about LE in West Texas.

 ::MonkeyBike:: BTL will read from now on. Just wanted to get this off my chest.

Mods, if this is off topic, please delete. TIA JSM



I do not think LE in West Tx are stupid idiots...but they might be rednecks(lol). Redneck does not equal stupid idiot and I do not know them so can't call them rednecks but so what if they are ... I think they are not showing their cards, which  in my opinion is a pretty smart thing to do.

There is a good old boy system in Texas but I agree, Billie and Shawn are probably out of that loop. I do not think PC applies in this case either.


I also live in small-town TX, actually not even in town.  I know many of the deputies in the surrounding counties and many of them are hard-working and underpaid.  But you are right, there is a good ol' boy system in many of the smaller town's LE. 

That being said, most of them, no matter how well meaning or dedicated, do not handle high profile, missing person/murder cases like this on a regular basis.  I don't want to see this case botched because the local LE is over its head and won't admit it, like the Jon Benet Ramsey case in Boulder.

As a spectator without the transparency as is seen in the Florida cases, it is hard to determine whether LE in this case is just holding everything close to the vest, which is understandable, or is stumbling around in the dark.  And that Deputy who poorly handled BJD's complaint about SA's threats to her and Hailey doesn't give a whole lot of credence to what we do know about the department.

The lack of a good, consistent spokesperson for CCity hasn't helped matters, either. 
 ::CowboySmiley::



I don't think that the LE are ineffective in this case..no sir ..they are playing this family like a fiddle.

No one anywhere can dispute the rep of the Texas Rangers..and they are involved in this case.

The only reason I think people may feel uncomfortable is with Peter K,  being spokeman when he isn't LE.  Smart move really..he is a man who has little to say while letting out anything stupendous...and he is keeping Billie and Shawn and their band of merry friends thinking they are way less Po's then they truly are.

I think that LE is playing this close to their chests because that is what LE does in every one of these cases in every part of the country.  Sans Florida Sunshine Law we wouldn't know anything much from LE or the prosecutors in Caylee's case.  Both LE and the prosecutors have not given much in the way of pressers there either.  But due to the Sunshine Laws we know their thinking, their methodology and then some.

Personally I love that there is a PO in place now..lets see how Miss Billie Jean handles that..I swear I can almost here that whole discussion in court of how the judge called her bluff.   That call to the reporter to just to let Shawn know that it wasn't the first thing on Billie's mind, oops it even slipped her mind the afternoon she was bailed out..

LOL go Texas Rangers, go good ole boys...Billie Jean ..you are sunk..no sex, no drugs..what the h%ll is life coming to for you!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 18, 2011, 10:04:20 PM
It's Pete Kampfer.  He makes himself look like an idiot, he even admits that he doesn't want to know anything because he might have to answer a question about it, and because LE chose him to be their spokesperson, it makes us raise eyebrows at them.  But that's only raised eyebrows; it's PK that really just is so amazingly conflicted and confusing that I'm beginning to wonder if he isn't doing it on purpose to help the case.  Or rather, I'm praying he is.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on March 18, 2011, 10:11:42 PM
This been posted?

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353316

Billie Dunn Says She Has Protective Order against Shawn Adkins

Reported by: Laura Kellerman and Priscilla Luong
Friday, March 18 2011
Billie Dunn, whose 13-year-old daughter has been missing since last December, says she has a protective order against Shawn Adkins, her former live-in boyfriend and the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance.

Billie Dunn called KTAB reporter Priscilla Luong to inform her of the protective order, saying she had forgotten to mention it in the news conference she gave this afternoon.

Dunn was arrested Thursday night after police came to her house looking for Adkins, and she lied to investigators, telling them he wasn't inside.  She was charged with hindering apprehension or prosecution, false report to a police officer, and possession of dangerous drugs.  She was released Friday morning on $6,500 bond.

The protective order was filed as a direct result of what happened last night, Dunn told Luong.  The filing cannot be confirmed at this time because the courts are closed.

 ::snipping2::

Technicality question:  Isn't it more likely that she has applied for a PO?  Unless it is an emergency, don't you have to apply, then go to court in order to have the PO granted by a judge based on evidence?    ::MonkeyGavel::



Nope ..if your too dumb to request one, and in court telling a judge you are afraid of your boyfriend and that is why you are lying for him..a good judge can say fine..you got yourself an order of protection, because lord knows we wouldn't want you to be bailed out and then murdered yourself by this evil person..They called ole Billie's bluff.

 ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on March 18, 2011, 10:51:13 PM

<snipped>

I am not condoning but ... something tells me that intimidation is why Billie may be distancing Shawn from implication in the disappearance of her daughter.  Could it be that both Billie and Shawn are participants in the internet child porn industry ... an illegal activity that if exposed could land Hailey and David's mother behind bars for years?

<snipped>

The implications of this child porn revelation may be very far reaching.

Janet


It appears that Peter Hyatt and Tamikosmom are on the the same page in regards to the latest happenings in the Hailey Dunn case.  We often differ.

Janet

++++++

Friday, March 18, 2011
Billie Dunn Admits Lying


<snipped>

Billie Jean Dunn has reason to lie.

With the new release of information of child porn, it begs the question: Where does Billie Dunn get the money to buy drugs?

Did she purchase drugs with donations?
Did she and Adkins sell child porn?
The volume is extreme.

<snipped>

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/03/billie-dunn-admits-lying.html



I hear ya Janet..Billie and Shawn have some serious 'splaining to do before this is all over.

And I am dumbfounded that they found more..which begs the question for me, which I stated earlier, Did Shawn download this newly confiscated porn AFTER the other porn was taken into evidence by police.  Interesting that LE has not played that card yet about the child porn and bestiality.  They must feel once in custody for such heavy charges neither Shawn nor Miss Billie will ever cooperate in giving the location of Hailey.  And I agree with that.

I love to see perps continually brought up on these lesser charges as Billie has been .it gives the perp an air of confidence ..as in is that all they got?

No Miss Billie...they got much more..much more.

Shout out to BILLIE..  What's it like on Friday night with the children out of the house...and no Shawn, no porn, no drugs?  Get used to it Babe..you got a lifetime of this coming straight at you.

And while your at it Billie..start getting a little paranoid honey..you must have a squealer in the ranks.  No you say..Hmmm..how did LE know Shawn had more porn in new places?  Think about it sugar..someone is selling you and Shawn out on a dime.  Keep your friends close Billie..keep your drug dealer..oops your Mom close and your strippin buddies even closer....someone is gonna get popped for a little dismeanor..and they are gonna sing like a bird..wait someone has already started singing...tick tock.

Can you tell I just can not tolerate Billie and her whole culture of drugs and sex.. ..can we bring back stoning ..please....if she hadn't had children I wouldn't give a damn what she did .. as long as she wasn't hurting anyone else.  But she did not get the whole concept of the ripple effect..what you do mirrors out over all of us..each notch in the belt of indecency, disrespect for self and others, disregard for the truth, disregard for the laws..they effect all of society.  Billie obviously slept through the course we all take Humanity 101. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on March 18, 2011, 11:09:00 PM
 ::MonkeyShocked::

She so angry that nobody has found her "kid" yet she is laying out in the back yard getting a tan???? I am so glad I don't live anywhere near this trashyskankhopos........no telling how much I would need to drink if I witnessed what those local have to see. This is another version of the earlier presser but has neighbors commenting ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


http://www.kcbd.com/global/Story.asp?s=11971112


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 11:09:34 PM
UPDATE: Billie Admits to Lying to Police

vid short just a couple of Qs by media
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353136


What is so amazing is how insulting Billie is the public by assuming we would be naive enough to believe her lies.   Just how many times can she say that Shawn was there to pick up some of his things or stopped by because he wanted to talk to her.   They have been seen together consistently, its about time she got snagged with it.


And another thing, if Shawn didnt want to talk to LE that doesnt mean she had to lie for him.    It also doesnt automatically mean that he may be stupid enough to try & hide in her house realizing LE had to know he was indeed there.  There is a very good chance it was Billie not wanting Shawn to talk to LE.

BINGO!!!

joesamas mama

Anticipating an "arrest" warrant ... is it possible that LE arrived at Grandma's home with a search warrant ... Shawn hightailed it to Billie's home and ... "ordered" Billie silence regarding his whereabouts.

I am not condoning but ... something tells me that intimidation is why Billie may be distancing Shawn from implication in the disappearance of her daughter.  Could it be that both Billie and Shawn are participants in the internet child porn industry ... an illegal activity that if exposed could land Hailey and David's mother behind bars for years?

If there was only one computer that had all those images stored ... it would seem reasonable to suspect only Shawn but ... when that stuff was on found on so many electronic devices ... some seized from Billie's home ...

Billie's reaction to the latest child porn revelation will be very telling.  If she continues to distance Shawn ...

The implications of this child porn revelation may be very far reaching.

Janet


Could be intimidation, could be stupidity on Billies part, but I truly believe she isn't as naive as she claims. I know people like her that can spin tales that would make you, me and the rest of SM believe. Plus if what is true, she was still around Shawn and not looking for her daughter. I can't wrap my mind around why she would still be with him unless she is covering for herself and Shawn, if she was being intimidated by him, then tell all to LE/FBI/Texas Rangers. Logic would be to tell the truth, no matter where the truth leads if she she really wants to find Hailey.



You got that right!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on March 18, 2011, 11:11:44 PM
 ::MonkeySlide::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 18, 2011, 11:14:57 PM
THE PROTECTION ORDER

Could it be that the protection order is all about Billie fearing the wrath of Shawn when he learns that a plea bargain is in the works?

Could it that Billie will reveal all in regards to what she  learned about the happenings encompassing her missing daughter?

Could it be that Billie will reveal all in regards to both Shawn and her involvement in the child porn industry?

Could it be that in return Billie will be spared the full consequences of her participation in illegal/immoral wrongdoing?

Could it be that is time for Tamikosmom to call it a night.

Good Night All.

Janet
8:12 PM PT


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 11:20:27 PM
::MonkeyShocked::

She so angry that nobody has found her "kid" yet she is laying out in the back yard getting a tan???? I am so glad I don't live anywhere near this trashyskankhopos........no telling how much I would need to drink if I witnessed what those local have to see. This is another version of the earlier presser but has neighbors commenting ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


http://www.kcbd.com/global/Story.asp?s=11971112

She hasnt given a dang about either of her children before and certainly not after this that has been obvious...what is so infuriating is watching her attempt this game of "Im the victim here" when we know at the very least she has knowledge her daughter is not "missing" and how that happened.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on March 18, 2011, 11:24:38 PM
::MonkeySlide::

OOOPS..don't even ask..I had a cute little post in response to one of Capps and put the dancing Monkey doing the slide at the end..somehow only the dancing Monkey  through.  I'll take that as it came..maybe the Universe thought the best part of the post was a Monkey doing the slide...lol

Any road..it is Friday night and Shawn is probably creeping in the darkness, in camo gear and face paint back into Billie Jean's bedroom window..wanna place bets..anyone..anyone?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 11:25:39 PM
THE PROTECTION ORDER

Could it be that the protection order is all about Billie fearing the wrath of Shawn when he learns that a plea bargain is in the works?

Could it that Billie will reveal all in regards to what she  learned about the happenings encompassing her missing daughter?

Could it be that Billie will reveal all in regards to both Shawn and her involvement in the child porn industry?

Could it be that in return Billie will be spared the full consequences of her participation in illegal/immoral wrongdoing?

Could it be that is time for Tamikosmom to call it a night.

Good Night All.

Janet
8:12 PM PT

Ill believe it when I see it black and white
She was advised by LE on a number of occasions to cut off contact with her boyfriend, she refused extremely defiantly.
She could have gotten a PO long ago, why didnt she?   She could have told the truth by now, why hasnt she?
I also think she tried to get out of why she lied by saying Shawn was threatening her so the judge took the bait & gave her the PO so that she couldnt be in contact with him.
It seems obvious that Billie has on several occasions cut off Shawn from talking to LE, last night being one of them.
She will not be spared, I can almost guarantee it

All IMHO

Have a pleasant evening Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on March 18, 2011, 11:27:08 PM
::MonkeyShocked::

She so angry that nobody has found her "kid" yet she is laying out in the back yard getting a tan???? I am so glad I don't live anywhere near this trashyskankhopos........no telling how much I would need to drink if I witnessed what those local have to see. This is another version of the earlier presser but has neighbors commenting ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


http://www.kcbd.com/global/Story.asp?s=11971112

She hasnt given a dang about either of her children before and certainly not after this that has been obvious...what is so infuriating is watching her attempt this game of "Im the victim here" when we know at the very least she has knowledge her daughter is not "missing" and how that happened.

So agree, she is a waste,,,,,,huge waste.


http://www.newswest9.com/Global/story.asp?S=14281162


Community Reacts to Teen's Disappearance and Mom's Arrest
 ::snipping2::



"I was pretty shocked, to be honest with you, especially after I found out what she had been arrested for. " (how long have you known her?) "I don't know her personally."  (How long have you lived close to her?) "For three years," Matos said.

According to Adelina Espinoza, "To me? They should pay. If they have something to do with it, they should pay for what they're doing. Everybody is worried about what's going on. If they did wrong and they did something to her, they should have to pay for it."

"I hope they're fixing to catch them. They finally arrested her," Peggy Gale added.  "I think it's finally coming to an end. I think her and her boyfriend are in it." (what was your reaction to the arrest last night?) "Wonderful!"

 ::snipping2::

Video here too


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on March 18, 2011, 11:33:11 PM
THE PROTECTION ORDER

Could it be that the protection order is all about Billie fearing the wrath of Shawn when he learns that a plea bargain is in the works?

Could it that Billie will reveal all in regards to what she  learned about the happenings encompassing her missing daughter?

Could it be that Billie will reveal all in regards to both Shawn and her involvement in the child porn industry?

Could it be that in return Billie will be spared the full consequences of her participation in illegal/immoral wrongdoing?

Could it be that is time for Tamikosmom to call it a night.

Good Night All.

Janet
8:12 PM PT

Ill believe it when I see it black and white
She was advised by LE on a number of occasions to cut off contact with her boyfriend, she refused extremely defiantly.
She could have gotten a PO long ago, why didnt she?   She could have told the truth by now, why hasnt she?
I also think she tried to get out of why she lied by saying Shawn was threatening her so the judge took the bait & gave her the PO so that she couldnt be in contact with him.
It seems obvious that Billie has on several occasions cut off Shawn from talking to LE, last night being one of them.
She will not be spared, I can almost guarantee it

All IMHO

Have a pleasant evening Janet


What made no sense to me was when she stated the PO was in force for one yr and kept him off her property........to me that isn't your typical PO, they are usually worded something like this "can't come within 250 yards of _________" bla bla bla, the way she stated it makes it sound like she could see him somewhere else, but he couldn't come to her house ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 11:36:57 PM
::MonkeySlide::

OOOPS..don't even ask..I had a cute little post in response to one of Capps and put the dancing Monkey doing the slide at the end..somehow only the dancing Monkey  through.  I'll take that as it came..maybe the Universe thought the best part of the post was a Monkey doing the slide...lol

Any road..it is Friday night and Shawn is probably creeping in the darkness, in camo gear and face paint back into Billie Jean's bedroom window..wanna place bets..anyone..anyone?

I sure cant bet against those two not getting together.   What I think is going on here is that while LE has to conduct their investigation its Shawn & Billie playing their own cat and mouse game with each other...toxic fools.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 18, 2011, 11:38:09 PM
::MonkeySlide::

OOOPS..don't even ask..I had a cute little post in response to one of Capps and put the dancing Monkey doing the slide at the end..somehow only the dancing Monkey  through.  I'll take that as it came..maybe the Universe thought the best part of the post was a Monkey doing the slide...lol

Any road..it is Friday night and Shawn is probably creeping in the darkness, in camo gear and face paint back into Billie Jean's bedroom window..wanna place bets..anyone..anyone?

I sure cant bet against those two not getting together.   What I think is going on here is that while LE has to conduct their investigation its Shawn & Billie playing their own cat and mouse game with each other...toxic fools.

Their history sure seems to be chaotic, one of those make-up-break-up-make-up couples.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 11:38:55 PM
THE PROTECTION ORDER

Could it be that the protection order is all about Billie fearing the wrath of Shawn when he learns that a plea bargain is in the works?

Could it that Billie will reveal all in regards to what she  learned about the happenings encompassing her missing daughter?

Could it be that Billie will reveal all in regards to both Shawn and her involvement in the child porn industry?

Could it be that in return Billie will be spared the full consequences of her participation in illegal/immoral wrongdoing?

Could it be that is time for Tamikosmom to call it a night.

Good Night All.

Janet
8:12 PM PT

Ill believe it when I see it black and white
She was advised by LE on a number of occasions to cut off contact with her boyfriend, she refused extremely defiantly.
She could have gotten a PO long ago, why didnt she?   She could have told the truth by now, why hasnt she?
I also think she tried to get out of why she lied by saying Shawn was threatening her so the judge took the bait & gave her the PO so that she couldnt be in contact with him.
It seems obvious that Billie has on several occasions cut off Shawn from talking to LE, last night being one of them.
She will not be spared, I can almost guarantee it

All IMHO

Have a pleasant evening Janet


What made no sense to me was when she stated the PO was in force for one yr and kept him off her property........to me that isn't your typical PO, they are usually worded something like this "can't come within 250 yards of _________" bla bla bla, the way she stated it makes it sound like she could see him somewhere else, but he couldn't come to her house ::MonkeyTongue::

You're right, it would be worded "it is hereby ordered that, Shawn Adkins, cannot come within (distance) of Billie Dunn.   It doesnt matter if she is on her property or anywhere else for that matter.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on March 18, 2011, 11:45:43 PM
THE PROTECTION ORDER

Could it be that the protection order is all about Billie fearing the wrath of Shawn when he learns that a plea bargain is in the works?

Could it that Billie will reveal all in regards to what she  learned about the happenings encompassing her missing daughter?

Could it be that Billie will reveal all in regards to both Shawn and her involvement in the child porn industry?

Could it be that in return Billie will be spared the full consequences of her participation in illegal/immoral wrongdoing?

Could it be that is time for Tamikosmom to call it a night.

Good Night All.

Janet
8:12 PM PT

Ill believe it when I see it black and white
She was advised by LE on a number of occasions to cut off contact with her boyfriend, she refused extremely defiantly.
She could have gotten a PO long ago, why didnt she?   She could have told the truth by now, why hasnt she?
I also think she tried to get out of why she lied by saying Shawn was threatening her so the judge took the bait & gave her the PO so that she couldnt be in contact with him.
It seems obvious that Billie has on several occasions cut off Shawn from talking to LE, last night being one of them.
She will not be spared, I can almost guarantee it

All IMHO

Have a pleasant evening Janet


What made no sense to me was when she stated the PO was in force for one yr and kept him off her property........to me that isn't your typical PO, they are usually worded something like this "can't come within 250 yards of _________" bla bla bla, the way she stated it makes it sound like she could see him somewhere else, but he couldn't come to her house ::MonkeyTongue::

You're right, it would be worded "it is hereby ordered that, Shawn Adkins, cannot come within (distance) of Billie Dunn.   It doesnt matter if she is on her property or anywhere else for that matter.

Exactly...it makes no sense just like everything else she states, surely she would know WTH it stated and I can't recall one specifically mentioning property vs the one filing the RO/PO


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353316

According to Dunn, Adkins cannot come near property for a year under the protective order.  She said she has no plans to see him again and will not rekindle a relationship with him in the future.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on March 18, 2011, 11:47:07 PM
THE PROTECTION ORDER

Could it be that the protection order is all about Billie fearing the wrath of Shawn when he learns that a plea bargain is in the works?

Could it that Billie will reveal all in regards to what she  learned about the happenings encompassing her missing daughter?

Could it be that Billie will reveal all in regards to both Shawn and her involvement in the child porn industry?

Could it be that in return Billie will be spared the full consequences of her participation in illegal/immoral wrongdoing?

Could it be that is time for Tamikosmom to call it a night.

Good Night All.

Janet
8:12 PM PT

Janet I am sorry to say this..but no..I disagree.

I really believe the Order of Protection came about because Billie lies ..and she was in court..if the judge needed to believe her lies ..then he needed to believe she was in danger..logically and theoretically.  However..that places a burden on him to keep her safe or risk a her being done harm by Shawn.

I truly believe she lied to the judge and told him she was didn't know nothing about nothing and was afraid of Shawn..hence the protection order.  The judge is aware this is a high profile case...he needs to act in accordance..meaning protect those needing protection, even if they lie.

I don't see how Billie could cut a deal and walk free on such a low bond if she had even a small part in this.  She would still be in jail..that's more protective then on the street if she turned in a killer and was also in some portion of the crime or afterwards cupable. 

My true belief is Billie participated in the cover up and disposal arrangements for Hailey.  She didn't say anything to LE last night or Shawn would be in jail today on no bond..no release charged with murder.

And I don't think that Billie ever felt the wrath of Shawn..I think she is the older alpha female...I think she is as twisted as he is..I think it was no surprise he had other ladies on the side..and pics..I think she would have enjoyed that..and I am holding my breath..because I feel in my gut we are going to hear that there are threesomes on the porn tapes..Shawn, Billie and whomever they would invite into their twisted world.  And that would have been long before the bestiality..just saying there is a progression and a pattern to deviant sex..there will be more to come on that matter.

 I may have to eat a humble pie myself..but as a past social worker and behavioral scientist and ..I pulled enough people off the streets and into shelters and walk ins then I care to remember.  I started in the late 70's..there ain't nothing new out there ..it's the same old deprivation and lack of self worth..hooked on drugs, sex and free wheeling abuse of others or being the abused it always was ..never met a street person or a walk in that hadn't tasted some of that..and I still cry over the ones that were abused.
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 18, 2011, 11:49:45 PM
KTXS EXCLUSIVE: Affidavit Shows More Child Porn In Hailey Dunn Case
By George Levesque, KTXS News Director

UPDATED: 6:45 pm CDT March 18, 2011
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html

SNYDER, Texas -- According to law enforcement authorities, more pornography – including child pornography – has been found on devices used by Shawn Adkins, the only named suspect in the disappearance of Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn.
According to search warrant affidavits acquired Friday by KTXS through the Freedom of Information Act, a warrant used by law enforcement in Scurry County on Thursday was specifically intended to look for more child pornography on computers, discs and other digital devices Adkins has been using.
 ::snipping2::
The affidavit confirms earlier reports by KTXS that child pornography was found on a computer at the home of Adkins' mother, where Adkins had access to the computer, and on a memory stick in the home of Hailey Dunn in Colorado City.
 ::snipping2::
The affidavit details that pornographic images were found among deleted e-mail files on Adkins' cell phone and on a computer in the home of Renee Norwood, Adkins' grandmother.
 ::snipping2::
Another warrant was issued, out of Howard County, but the judge in that case refused to release the search warrant affidavits to the media although FOI requests were made. That warrant is believed to have been for the "body" of Adkins, meaning it was most likely served to obtain DNA evidence.
When that warrant was served, according to documents filed in Mitchell County, Billie Dunn, the mother of the missing teen, reportedly lied about the whereabouts of Adkins.
She was arrested and has since been arraigned and has been released on a $6,500 bond for the three misdemeanors she was held on.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on March 18, 2011, 11:54:09 PM
KTXS EXCLUSIVE: Affidavit Shows More Child Porn In Hailey Dunn Case
By George Levesque, KTXS News Director

UPDATED: 6:45 pm CDT March 18, 2011
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html

SNYDER, Texas -- According to law enforcement authorities, more pornography – including child pornography – has been found on devices used by Shawn Adkins, the only named suspect in the disappearance of Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn.
According to search warrant affidavits acquired Friday by KTXS through the Freedom of Information Act, a warrant used by law enforcement in Scurry County on Thursday was specifically intended to look for more child pornography on computers, discs and other digital devices Adkins has been using.
 ::snipping2::
The affidavit confirms earlier reports by KTXS that child pornography was found on a computer at the home of Adkins' mother, where Adkins had access to the computer, and on a memory stick in the home of Hailey Dunn in Colorado City.
 ::snipping2::
The affidavit details that pornographic images were found among deleted e-mail files on Adkins' cell phone and on a computer in the home of Renee Norwood, Adkins' grandmother.
 ::snipping2::
Another warrant was issued, out of Howard County, but the judge in that case refused to release the search warrant affidavits to the media although FOI requests were made. That warrant is believed to have been for the "body" of Adkins, meaning it was most likely served to obtain DNA evidence.
When that warrant was served, according to documents filed in Mitchell County, Billie Dunn, the mother of the missing teen, reportedly lied about the whereabouts of Adkins.
She was arrested and has since been arraigned and has been released on a $6,500 bond for the three misdemeanors she was held on.
 ::snipping2::

My head is spinning, this is exactly what Toombs stated wrt the thumb drive/memory stick found in Billie's house.......but she cleared that one up with Shawn before the BTH radio show. Crazy nutjob ::MonkeyNoNo::

Also, I thought I remembered a TRO earlier......I found this from her friend Courtney ::MonkeyTongue::


czgtz 
Banned   Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 572 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TorisMom003 
I need someone with a better memory than me to help me out with something.

BD is claiming that right before she took her LDT she was told that SA had failed his. BD then takes her LDT and "fails" but then blames it on the stress of what she had just heard because she had put so much faith in LDTs. Promptly after "failing" her own LDT she is then interviewed by LE for 10 hours. BD has claimed that she told SA to leave when she found out about him "failing" his LDT. Now, didn't we find out that SA left the house during the time that BD was with LE?! SA went to his mother's house? Then we also heard from DD that SA skipped town or something to that effect? So the really confusing part for me is this...........when exactly did BD have a chance to tell SA to leave the house? Or did he leave on his own and this is another mistaken statement made by BD?


Billie did not try to say anything made her fail the poly. A lot of people speculated that the stress of finding out Shawn failed his might have caused her to fail hers. After she found out Shawn failed his, but before she took hers, LE asked her if she wanted to file an emergency TRO - she said yes, of course, because she didn't want him in her house if he failed the poly. Then she failed hers, and didn't know what to think. She didn't indicate deception on any question - LE explained that she failed because she went 'out of parameters', but not in response to a question (don't ask me).

I never asked her if she told Shawn herself to leave or if LE passed that message on to him for her. But he was gone when LE brought her back to her house. 


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6059977&postcount=224


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 19, 2011, 12:04:35 AM
KTXS EXCLUSIVE: Affidavit Shows More Child Porn In Hailey Dunn Case
By George Levesque, KTXS News Director

UPDATED: 6:45 pm CDT March 18, 2011
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html

SNYDER, Texas -- According to law enforcement authorities, more pornography – including child pornography – has been found on devices used by Shawn Adkins, the only named suspect in the disappearance of Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn.
According to search warrant affidavits acquired Friday by KTXS through the Freedom of Information Act, a warrant used by law enforcement in Scurry County on Thursday was specifically intended to look for more child pornography on computers, discs and other digital devices Adkins has been using.
 ::snipping2::
The affidavit confirms earlier reports by KTXS that child pornography was found on a computer at the home of Adkins' mother, where Adkins had access to the computer, and on a memory stick in the home of Hailey Dunn in Colorado City.
 ::snipping2::
The affidavit details that pornographic images were found among deleted e-mail files on Adkins' cell phone and on a computer in the home of Renee Norwood, Adkins' grandmother.
 ::snipping2::
Another warrant was issued, out of Howard County, but the judge in that case refused to release the search warrant affidavits to the media although FOI requests were made. That warrant is believed to have been for the "body" of Adkins, meaning it was most likely served to obtain DNA evidence.
When that warrant was served, according to documents filed in Mitchell County, Billie Dunn, the mother of the missing teen, reportedly lied about the whereabouts of Adkins.
She was arrested and has since been arraigned and has been released on a $6,500 bond for the three misdemeanors she was held on.
 ::snipping2::

My head is spinning, this is exactly what Toombs stated wrt the thumb drive/memory stick found in Billie's house.......but she cleared that one up with Shawn before the BTH radio show. Crazy nutjob ::MonkeyNoNo::

Also, I thought I remembered a TRO earlier......I found this from her friend Courtney ::MonkeyTongue::


czgtz 
Banned   Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 572 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TorisMom003 
I need someone with a better memory than me to help me out with something.

BD is claiming that right before she took her LDT she was told that SA had failed his. BD then takes her LDT and "fails" but then blames it on the stress of what she had just heard because she had put so much faith in LDTs. Promptly after "failing" her own LDT she is then interviewed by LE for 10 hours. BD has claimed that she told SA to leave when she found out about him "failing" his LDT. Now, didn't we find out that SA left the house during the time that BD was with LE?! SA went to his mother's house? Then we also heard from DD that SA skipped town or something to that effect? So the really confusing part for me is this...........when exactly did BD have a chance to tell SA to leave the house? Or did he leave on his own and this is another mistaken statement made by BD?


Billie did not try to say anything made her fail the poly. A lot of people speculated that the stress of finding out Shawn failed his might have caused her to fail hers. After she found out Shawn failed his, but before she took hers, LE asked her if she wanted to file an emergency TRO - she said yes, of course, because she didn't want him in her house if he failed the poly. Then she failed hers, and didn't know what to think. She didn't indicate deception on any question - LE explained that she failed because she went 'out of parameters', but not in response to a question (don't ask me).

I never asked her if she told Shawn herself to leave or if LE passed that message on to him for her. But he was gone when LE brought her back to her house. 


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6059977&postcount=224

Well if one was offered, she voluntarily vacated it & continued to stay together with him.  She was told point blank that she should stay away from him until & if he was cleared, she defied that advise.   I think she brought up getting one to get herself out of trouble for lying but get this....

Freda Radcliff I didnt buy her BS from day one...She is protecting him way too hard for some reason...and i tend to believe that reason is...they both know what has happened to Hailey and are both involved!!!!

I asked the following:   I actually thought that Freda, please tell me you heard that from a reliable source because I felt that BILLIE has been the one preventing Shawn from talking to LE or anyone, especially since he canceled an interview due to "a cold" how lame & yet she came on despite what she was told prior to her calling in several times

Freda Radcliff Yes I am serious....and that was in our paper today, Shawn ratted the dumb a$$ out lol
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905
Freda Radcliff I am sure her mom has given her a Snyder paper...she lives here...so I am sure she has seen it...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on March 19, 2011, 12:13:49 AM
 ::MonkeyEek::

I missed that one Capp.....how far down the page is it? I was out all day on the beach (tanning ::MonkeyWink:: ) and now nursing a sunburn, so must have missed that lil tidbit ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 19, 2011, 12:16:07 AM
::MonkeyEek::

I missed that one Capp.....how far down the page is it? I was out all day on the beach (tanning ::MonkeyWink:: ) and now nursing a sunburn, so must have missed that lil tidbit ::MonkeyCheer4::

Second or third thread down...and this:

Im waiting to find out which local publication so I can go right to the source:

Freda Radcliff The article states...Officials with Mitchell County went to BJD's home Thursday looking for Adkins, but Dunn told them he was not there. However, he was in the home and that resulted in one of the charges being filed...Adkins later called officers and said he had been at the house at the time they were looking for him
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=205199449492227&id=189599337718905


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 19, 2011, 12:16:54 AM
PS  I rest my case on that point ...Im on a roll!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on March 19, 2011, 12:25:46 AM
::MonkeyEek::

I missed that one Capp.....how far down the page is it? I was out all day on the beach (tanning ::MonkeyWink:: ) and now nursing a sunburn, so must have missed that lil tidbit ::MonkeyCheer4::

Second or third thread down...and this:

Im waiting to find out which local publication so I can go right to the source:

Freda Radcliff The article states...Officials with Mitchell County went to BJD's home Thursday looking for Adkins, but Dunn told them he was not there. However, he was in the home and that resulted in one of the charges being filed...Adkins later called officers and said he had been at the house at the time they were looking for himhttp://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=205199449492227&id=189599337718905


 ::MonkeyEek:: The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round..... ::MonkeyBike::




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 19, 2011, 12:34:25 AM
::MonkeyEek::

I missed that one Capp.....how far down the page is it? I was out all day on the beach (tanning ::MonkeyWink:: ) and now nursing a sunburn, so must have missed that lil tidbit ::MonkeyCheer4::

Second or third thread down...and this:

Im waiting to find out which local publication so I can go right to the source:

Freda Radcliff The article states...Officials with Mitchell County went to BJD's home Thursday looking for Adkins, but Dunn told them he was not there. However, he was in the home and that resulted in one of the charges being filed...Adkins later called officers and said he had been at the house at the time they were looking for himhttp://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=205199449492227&id=189599337718905

 ::MonkeyEek:: The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round..... ::MonkeyBike::


She's about to get run over....flat like a pancake


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on March 19, 2011, 12:34:45 AM
::MonkeyEek::

I missed that one Capp.....how far down the page is it? I was out all day on the beach (tanning ::MonkeyWink:: ) and now nursing a sunburn, so must have missed that lil tidbit ::MonkeyCheer4::

Second or third thread down...and this:

Im waiting to find out which local publication so I can go right to the source:

Freda Radcliff The article states...Officials with Mitchell County went to BJD's home Thursday looking for Adkins, but Dunn told them he was not there. However, he was in the home and that resulted in one of the charges being filed...Adkins later called officers and said he had been at the house at the time they were looking for him
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=205199449492227&id=189599337718905

I found it, it is the Snyder Daily News.....I had to suscribe so I don't think I can post it here, but I can send you a screenshot of that part on FB



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: mymonkey on March 19, 2011, 12:43:39 AM


Thanks to all for keeping all the great updates rolling in ::dogwag::


I do not know if this has been discussed........ What if  Shawn  sold Hailey to some porn industry,being that he is so involved himself....I may be thinking way out of the box...but anything is possible.

Also in Billie' glamor shot (mug) she only has on one earring...and I believe she may have had her eyeliner tattooed on as well...I know if I have  been crying mine would be gone ..maybe she did not shed a tear in jail.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 19, 2011, 12:49:22 AM
::MonkeyEek::

I missed that one Capp.....how far down the page is it? I was out all day on the beach (tanning ::MonkeyWink:: ) and now nursing a sunburn, so must have missed that lil tidbit ::MonkeyCheer4::

Second or third thread down...and this:

Im waiting to find out which local publication so I can go right to the source:

Freda Radcliff The article states...Officials with Mitchell County went to BJD's home Thursday looking for Adkins, but Dunn told them he was not there. However, he was in the home and that resulted in one of the charges being filed...Adkins later called officers and said he had been at the house at the time they were looking for him
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=205199449492227&id=189599337718905

I found it, it is the Snyder Daily News.....I had to suscribe so I don't think I can post it here, but I can send you a screenshot of that part on FB



Got it... yea I visited the site but I saw you had to subscribe to get the articles.

It indeed stated that Shawn called LE to say he was there when they arrived looking for him.   Can we get an okay to post the article screencap, maybe with a link to the paper site?

That tells me it was Billie who didnt want Shawn talking to LE...interesting.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on March 19, 2011, 12:54:00 AM
::MonkeyEek::

I missed that one Capp.....how far down the page is it? I was out all day on the beach (tanning ::MonkeyWink:: ) and now nursing a sunburn, so must have missed that lil tidbit ::MonkeyCheer4::

Second or third thread down...and this:

Im waiting to find out which local publication so I can go right to the source:

Freda Radcliff The article states...Officials with Mitchell County went to BJD's home Thursday looking for Adkins, but Dunn told them he was not there. However, he was in the home and that resulted in one of the charges being filed...Adkins later called officers and said he had been at the house at the time they were looking for him
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=205199449492227&id=189599337718905

I found it, it is the Snyder Daily News.....I had to suscribe so I don't think I can post it here, but I can send you a screenshot of that part on FB



Got it... yea I visited the site but I saw you had to subscribe to get the articles.

It indeed stated that Shawn called LE to say he was there when they arrived looking for him.   Can we get an okay to post the article screencap, maybe with a link to the paper site?

That tells me it was Billie who didnt want Shawn talking to LE...interesting.
::rhino:: I figured that anyway.......way before you told me about that lil bit! I can do more screen grabs if they are ok with us posting them, I did pay for it so it should be mine, but ya never know anymore.......  ::MonkeyGavel::



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 19, 2011, 12:55:05 AM

Well if one was offered, she voluntarily vacated it & continued to stay together with him.  She was told point blank that she should stay away from him until & if he was cleared, she defied that advise.   I think she brought up getting one to get herself out of trouble for lying but get this....

Freda Radcliff I didnt buy her BS from day one...She is protecting him way too hard for some reason...and i tend to believe that reason is...they both know what has happened to Hailey and are both involved!!!!

I asked the following:   I actually thought that Freda, please tell me you heard that from a reliable source because I felt that BILLIE has been the one preventing Shawn from talking to LE or anyone, especially since he canceled an interview due to "a cold" how lame & yet she came on despite what she was told prior to her calling in several times

Freda Radcliff Yes I am serious....and that was in our paper today, Shawn ratted the dumb a$$ out lol
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905
Freda Radcliff I am sure her mom has given her a Snyder paper...she lives here...so I am sure she has seen it...

That's you?  LOL  I love your posts!

If anyone wants to read that exchange, and it is a doozy, it's at the link that Capp gave, in the thread that starts with "(TH) I find it disturbing "
Again, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 19, 2011, 01:11:55 AM

Well if one was offered, she voluntarily vacated it & continued to stay together with him.  She was told point blank that she should stay away from him until & if he was cleared, she defied that advise.   I think she brought up getting one to get herself out of trouble for lying but get this....

Freda Radcliff I didnt buy her BS from day one...She is protecting him way too hard for some reason...and i tend to believe that reason is...they both know what has happened to Hailey and are both involved!!!!

I asked the following:   I actually thought that Freda, please tell me you heard that from a reliable source because I felt that BILLIE has been the one preventing Shawn from talking to LE or anyone, especially since he canceled an interview due to "a cold" how lame & yet she came on despite what she was told prior to her calling in several times

Freda Radcliff Yes I am serious....and that was in our paper today, Shawn ratted the dumb a$$ out lol
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905
Freda Radcliff I am sure her mom has given her a Snyder paper...she lives here...so I am sure she has seen it...

That's you?  LOL  I love your posts!

If anyone wants to read that exchange, and it is a doozy, it's at the link that Capp gave, in the thread that starts with "(TH) I find it disturbing "
Again, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905

Im Paula


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 19, 2011, 01:14:37 AM

Well if one was offered, she voluntarily vacated it & continued to stay together with him.  She was told point blank that she should stay away from him until & if he was cleared, she defied that advise.   I think she brought up getting one to get herself out of trouble for lying but get this....

Freda Radcliff I didnt buy her BS from day one...She is protecting him way too hard for some reason...and i tend to believe that reason is...they both know what has happened to Hailey and are both involved!!!!

I asked the following:   I actually thought that Freda, please tell me you heard that from a reliable source because I felt that BILLIE has been the one preventing Shawn from talking to LE or anyone, especially since he canceled an interview due to "a cold" how lame & yet she came on despite what she was told prior to her calling in several times

Freda Radcliff Yes I am serious....and that was in our paper today, Shawn ratted the dumb a$$ out lol
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905
Freda Radcliff I am sure her mom has given her a Snyder paper...she lives here...so I am sure she has seen it...

That's you?  LOL  I love your posts!

If anyone wants to read that exchange, and it is a doozy, it's at the link that Capp gave, in the thread that starts with "(TH) I find it disturbing "
Again, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905

Im Paula
  I know - now!  lol  I should have figured with your cuppa icon.  :)   What an interesting bit of information on the article.  I don't know what to think about SA calling afterwards.  Except "wow".  But it doesn't surprise me that she decided he wasn't going to talk to LE right then.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on March 19, 2011, 01:19:38 AM

Well if one was offered, she voluntarily vacated it & continued to stay together with him.  She was told point blank that she should stay away from him until & if he was cleared, she defied that advise.   I think she brought up getting one to get herself out of trouble for lying but get this....

Freda Radcliff I didnt buy her BS from day one...She is protecting him way too hard for some reason...and i tend to believe that reason is...they both know what has happened to Hailey and are both involved!!!!

I asked the following:   I actually thought that Freda, please tell me you heard that from a reliable source because I felt that BILLIE has been the one preventing Shawn from talking to LE or anyone, especially since he canceled an interview due to "a cold" how lame & yet she came on despite what she was told prior to her calling in several times

Freda Radcliff Yes I am serious....and that was in our paper today, Shawn ratted the dumb a$$ out lol
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905
Freda Radcliff I am sure her mom has given her a Snyder paper...she lives here...so I am sure she has seen it...

That's you?  LOL  I love your posts!

If anyone wants to read that exchange, and it is a doozy, it's at the link that Capp gave, in the thread that starts with "(TH) I find it disturbing "
Again, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905

Im Paula
  I know - now!  lol  I should have figured with your cuppa icon.  :)   What an interesting bit of information on the article.  I don't know what to think about SA calling afterwards.  Except "wow".  But it doesn't surprise me that she decided he wasn't going to talk to LE right then.

I can send you my screen shot from the newspaper if you want via PM on FB, I suscribed just to get that story..


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 19, 2011, 01:23:11 AM
Mother of missing Colorado City teen admits she lied to officials
http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=14274824

VIDEO TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ARTICLE & AS IF THERE ISNT ENOUGH TO SEND US REELING....

COLORADO CITY, TX (KCBD) - The mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn admits she lied to officials when they came to her home looking for her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins. She was taken into custody on Thursday and bonded out Friday afternoon.

KCBD spoke with Colorado City's city manager and police spokesman Pete Kampfer Thursday evening.  He tells us that a representative from the Mitchell County District Attorney's Office went to Dunn's home and took her mother, Billie Dunn, to the sheriff's office.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on March 19, 2011, 01:28:04 AM
Mother of missing Colorado City teen admits she lied to officials
http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=14274824

VIDEO TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ARTICLE & AS IF THERE ISNT ENOUGH TO SEND US REELING....

COLORADO CITY, TX (KCBD) - The mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn admits she lied to officials when they came to her home looking for her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins. She was taken into custody on Thursday and bonded out Friday afternoon.

KCBD spoke with Colorado City's city manager and police spokesman Pete Kampfer Thursday evening.  He tells us that a representative from the Mitchell County District Attorney's Office went to Dunn's home and took her mother, Billie Dunn, to the sheriff's office.
 ::snipping2::

Yes mam.......this is the one I posted about earlier, but I saw it live and was waiting for it to upload. Loved the neighbors speaking their mind and the close up of the blue lawn chair.  ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 19, 2011, 01:34:23 AM
Something has been bothering me about some of the articles.  They talk about child pornography, and they would thereafter usually say "pornography" was found on the memory stick - but they wouldn't flat out say 'it is confirmed that child porn was found on the memory stick'.

However, in a video on KTSX, a gentleman reads from the affadavit and this is what he says about it (around 1:00  http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html)

"However, in the affadavit from Scurry county...authorities describe finding pornography in the slack space....
"There the FBI found images of child pornography, other obscene images including adult pornography, deviant sexual behavior, even bestiality.  They could trace those pictures back to Shawn's email, they say.  The affadavit confirms earlier reports by KTXS that child pornography was found on a computer at the home of the Adkins mother, where Adkins had access to the computer, and on a memory stick in the home of missing teen Hailey Dunn in Colorady City."

That says it all right there.  I wanted someone to say THOSE specific words, not just "pornography" like so many places are saying.

Guess what BD - you had child pornography in your home, with your babies that God 'gave to you'.  And the LE didn't say it wasn't there - because according to the affadavit, it was there!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: TexasTater on March 19, 2011, 10:47:46 AM
Yep, yep, yep Billie Jean, you lied to us again saying no porn was on that memory stick. When weill you learn that it doesn't pay to lie?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on March 19, 2011, 11:20:30 AM
This woman is just too stupid.  Her lying constantly about everything is just digger a deeper hole for herself with LE.  Does she think LE doesn't read the news artilces, doesn't listen to her sound bites?  I think I have a rock in my backyard that has more sense..it just sits there and says nothing. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 19, 2011, 11:27:46 AM
This woman is just too stupid.  Her lying constantly about everything is just digger a deeper hole for herself with LE.  Does she think LE doesn't read the news artilces, doesn't listen to her sound bites?  I think I have a rock in my backyard that has more sense..it just sits there and says nothing. ::MonkeyTongue::

She's the gift that keeps on giving....keep talking, just keep talking


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 19, 2011, 11:43:25 AM
This woman is just too stupid.  Her lying constantly about everything is just digger a deeper hole for herself with LE.  Does she think LE doesn't read the news artilces, doesn't listen to her sound bites?  I think I have a rock in my backyard that has more sense..it just sits there and says nothing. ::MonkeyTongue::

She's the gift that keeps on giving....keep talking, just keep talking
::rhino::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 19, 2011, 11:44:21 AM
now i understand why SA is still walking free,the LE hasnt confirmed
CP on the electronic devices, SA had access to

JMO
i know, not everyone,that views deviant sexual material, are killers
most are just prob beyond weird, but there is something about SA,his
posture,his speech,everything about him, its like every move and every
word are calculated,and it just screams danger,danger,will robinson
-------

Sheriff: Unclear if Child Porn Discovered in Thursday's Search

snip
Friday, 4:30 p.m. Update:
Authorities say it's too early to tell if additional child pornography was discovered in the search of Shawn Adkins' grandmother's home in Dunn Thursday evening

snip
Toombs says this is the third search of the home in Dunn, Texas. He said the second search was consensual. Toombs noted pornography was discovered in the second search, but he couldn't confirm it to be child pornography. Toombs says the images are in the process of being analyzed.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353126


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 19, 2011, 12:18:28 PM

So, I wonder if any of the new child porn found contains any of Hailey???  ::MonkeyNoNo::  I surely hope not.  Even so, if he was CREATING any of these images (which we don't know at this point) - and even if he wasn't the one, my heart just breaks for those children.  Curious if there are any local kiddos in those pictures.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 19, 2011, 12:26:32 PM
::MonkeySlide::

OOOPS..don't even ask..I had a cute little post in response to one of Capps and put the dancing Monkey doing the slide at the end..somehow only the dancing Monkey  through.  I'll take that as it came..maybe the Universe thought the best part of the post was a Monkey doing the slide...lol

Any road..it is Friday night and Shawn is probably creeping in the darkness, in camo gear and face paint back into Billie Jean's bedroom window..wanna place bets..anyone..anyone?

I sure cant bet against those two not getting together.   What I think is going on here is that while LE has to conduct their investigation its Shawn & Billie playing their own cat and mouse game with each other...toxic fools.

ITA  This is just like their little 'He said he's gonna hurt me' incident with all those 911 calls last year.  It's like their twisted little relationship 'feeds' off of this.  They wanna kill each other, have each other arrested, and then have to 'sneak' to see each other again...like they get a 'high' off of it.  'I'm gonna kill you!!!', 'I'm calling the PD!', 'She's a nut.  I love her so much.', 'Psssttt...wanna sneak in tonight?' 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 19, 2011, 12:31:00 PM


Is there a way to confirm there is actually PO in place against SA?  I just seriously doubt that there is one at all. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: TexasTater on March 19, 2011, 01:00:02 PM
Until the offices open on Monday morning we only Billie Jeans word for it.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 19, 2011, 01:04:13 PM
Really interesting thought from the HFHD FB page:

http://www.facebook.com/find.hailey.dunn

"Help Find Hailey Dunn - Missing From Texas
It just dawned on me the judge may have made a "No contact order with Shawn Adkins" during Billie's arraignment Friday and that the protective order she is referring to was not her idea. Another thought is she asked for one because she was thoroughly pissed off at Shawn and blames her arrest on him."


I wouldn't be suprised if this is the case.  And VERY different than a requested PO.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 19, 2011, 01:11:58 PM

CHILD PORN - HOUSE OF SHAWN'S GRANDMA - NOT CONFIRMED

Sheriff: Unclear if Child Porn Discovered in Thursday's Search
Friday, March 18 2011


<snipped>

Toombs says this is the third search of the home in Dunn, Texas. He said the second search was consensual. Toombs noted pornography was discovered in the second search, but he couldn't confirm it to be child pornography. Toombs says the images are in the process of being analyzed.

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353126


CHILD PORN - HOUSES OF SHAWN'S MOTHER AND BILLIE - CONFIRMED

KTXS EXCLUSIVE: Affidavit Shows More Child Porn In Hailey Dunn CaseBy George POSTED: 12:36 pm CDT March 18, 2011
UPDATED: 6:45 pm CDT March 18, 2011


<snipped>

The affidavit confirms earlier reports by KTXS that child pornography was found on a computer at the home of Adkins' mother, where Adkins had access to the computer, and on a memory stick in the home of Hailey Dunn in Colorado City.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 19, 2011, 01:31:21 PM


Is there a way to confirm there is actually PO in place against SA?  I just seriously doubt that there is one at all. 

Are the courts open on the weekend?

Janet

+++++

Billie Dunn Says She Has Protective Order against Shawn Adkins
Friday, March 18 2011


<snipped>

The protective order was filed as a direct result of what happened last night, Dunn told Luong.  The filing cannot be confirmed at this time because the courts are closed.

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353316




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 19, 2011, 02:18:37 PM

1.  CHILD PORN - (SHAWN) GRANDMA'S HOUSE - NOT CONFIRMED

Sheriff: Unclear if Child Porn Discovered in Thursday's Search
Friday, March 18 2011


<snipped>

Toombs says this is the third search of the home in Dunn, Texas. He said the second search was consensual. Toombs noted pornography was discovered in the second search, but he couldn't confirm it to be child pornography. Toombs says the images are in the process of being analyzed.

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353126


2.  CHILD PORN - (SHAWN) MOTHER'S HOUSE - BILLIE'S HOUSE - CONFIRMED

KTXS EXCLUSIVE: Affidavit Shows More Child Porn In Hailey Dunn CaseBy George POSTED: 12:36 pm CDT March 18, 2011
UPDATED: 6:45 pm CDT March 18, 2011


<snipped>

The affidavit confirms earlier reports by KTXS that child pornography was found on a computer at the home of Adkins' mother, where Adkins had access to the computer, and on a memory stick in the home of Hailey Dunn in Colorado City.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html


3. CHILD PORN - BILLIE'S HOUSE - DENIED

Show Name: The Peter Hyatt Show
Date / Length: 13/03/2011 4:30 PM - 46 min

10:00


Peter Hyatt:  District Attorney told me that there was no child porn on the memory stick found in the home of Billie.  It was was false reporting by media ... not Sheriff Toombs. (Paraphrased)

 http://www.blogtalkradio.com/peter-hyatt/2011/03/13/the-peter-hyatt-show


Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs

‘Deviant acts,' porn found on digital evidence seized in Hailey Dunn case
Updated Thursday, February 24, 2011


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A memory stick confiscated from a dresser in the master bedroom of the Dunn residence in Colorado City was found to contain "320 images and videos of a pornographic nature."

Both the computer and the memory stick contain images depicting bestiality and child pornography, said Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs.

<snipped>

http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/feb/24/deviant-images-found-computer-mother-suspect-case/


Child Pornography Found In Hailey Dunn Home
POSTED: 1:15 pm CST February 25, 2011
UPDATED: 10:44 pm CST February 25, 2011


SWEETWATER, Texas -- A digital memory stick containing images of child pornography was discovered in Billie Dunn and Shawn Adkins’ bedroom as law enforcement searched for evidence pertaining to the disappearance of Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn, according to Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26998644/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Sister on March 19, 2011, 02:32:56 PM
This woman is just too stupid.  Her lying constantly about everything is just digger a deeper hole for herself with LE.  Does she think LE doesn't read the news artilces, doesn't listen to her sound bites?  I think I have a rock in my backyard that has more sense..it just sits there and says nothing. ::MonkeyTongue::

She's the gift that keeps on giving....keep talking, just keep talking
::rhino::

:2boohoo:
keep talking girlie . . .


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 19, 2011, 03:40:31 PM
Colorado City teen still missing
Last Update: 1/19 10:36 pm


The search for a missing 13-year-old Colorado City girl is broadening to include empty buildings in Scurry and Mitchell counties plus additional landfills in the region.

<snipped>

City manager Pete Kampfer in Colorado City declined to provide any specifics of the search effort including the locations of the additional landfills.

Kampfer said evidence was found recently at a landfill in Abilene.

<snipped>

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=post;topic=9552.220;num_replies=238

 



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 19, 2011, 03:45:58 PM
When the claim today in the FOX 34 article that evidence was found in the Abilene landfill ... could it be that there is some truth to the following January 19th article?

Janet

+++++


Search Of Landfills Turned Up 'Possible' Evidence In Hailey's Disappearance
POSTED: 2:07 pm CST January 18, 2011
UPDATED: 7:22 am CST January 19, 2011


LUBBOCK, Texas (AP) -- A spokesman for the investigation into a missing 13-year-old West Texas girl says dogs searching one of three landfills turned up "possible" evidence in the case – even as hope remains for her safe return.

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer declined to elaborate Tuesday on what was found or why the landfill in Abilene was searched in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn.

Kampfer confirmed to KTXS News Tuesday afternoon that the word "possible" must be included in the statement about evidence found.

He told KTXS News that "possible evidence" was found in the landfill searches, but authorities have not yet determined whether the "hits" previously reported could become evidence to be used in a trial.

Kampfer said searchers used cadaver dogs also in the Colorado City and Snyder landfills.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26530508/detail.html

Edit to fix typo.  MB


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 19, 2011, 04:05:53 PM
Self-Edit - My Last Post

the following January 29th article s/b the following January 19th article

Corrected.  MB


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 19, 2011, 04:19:36 PM
Thanks MuffyBee

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Shell on March 19, 2011, 04:57:20 PM

So, I wonder if any of the new child porn found contains any of Hailey???  ::MonkeyNoNo::  I surely hope not.  Even so, if he was CREATING any of these images (which we don't know at this point) - and even if he wasn't the one, my heart just breaks for those children.  Curious if there are any local kiddos in those pictures.  ::MonkeyMad::

If he created it, that is free for him and could be put up for sale. If it was purchased and downloaded there would be records of that transaction somewhere, I would think. If it was shared within a group of people, that might also be traceable. Am I correct? If I am, that means Shawn and accomplice/s if there are any will be in it deep doo too.

Maybe selling photos was so lucrative he felt like he could quit his job. But wait, he didn't quit his job that day.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 19, 2011, 05:43:24 PM
Flashback

New Details Released in Connection with the Search for Hailey Dunn
February 26, 2011


<snipped>

Another court document says more than 108,000 images were found on a computer taken from Shawn Adkins' mother's house in Big Spring. Shawn Adkins is the boyfriend of Hailey Dunn's mother.

Those pictures depicted "deviant acts" according to the documents. Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs tells NewsWest 9, those images included child pornography and bestiality.

Sheriff Toombs tells NewsWest 9, Hailey was not in any pictures on the seized computer.

Sheriff Toombs says the District Attorneys Office, Sheriff Department and the Texas Rangers are all working together to figure out who, if anyone, will be charged.

<snipped>

http://www.newswest9.com/Global/story.asp?S=14144265


Why No Arrests After Child Porn Was Found In Dunn Residence? Authorities Respond
POSTED: 7:06 pm CST March 1, 2011
UPDATED: 8:45 pm CST March 1, 2011


<snipped>

Child pornography was also found in Big Spring in the home of Shawn Adkins' mother. Shawn is Billie Jean's boyfriend.

Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs met with KTXS today to explain why no arrests have been made in both cases.

"You have more than one person in the home in each case," Sheriff Toombs said, "So you have to make sure and verify who is going to be the one responsible."

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27045936/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 19, 2011, 05:47:36 PM
::MonkeySlide::

OOOPS..don't even ask..I had a cute little post in response to one of Capps and put the dancing Monkey doing the slide at the end..somehow only the dancing Monkey  through.  I'll take that as it came..maybe the Universe thought the best part of the post was a Monkey doing the slide...lol

Any road..it is Friday night and Shawn is probably creeping in the darkness, in camo gear and face paint back into Billie Jean's bedroom window..wanna place bets..anyone..anyone?

I sure cant bet against those two not getting together.   What I think is going on here is that while LE has to conduct their investigation its Shawn & Billie playing their own cat and mouse game with each other...toxic fools.

ITA  This is just like their little 'He said he's gonna hurt me' incident with all those 911 calls last year.  It's like their twisted little relationship 'feeds' off of this.  They wanna kill each other, have each other arrested, and then have to 'sneak' to see each other again...like they get a 'high' off of it.  'I'm gonna kill you!!!', 'I'm calling the PD!', 'She's a nut.  I love her so much.', 'Psssttt...wanna sneak in tonight?' 

They're both into violence as a hobby; it wouldn't surprise me at all if this is indeed a sort of 'high' or thrill of some sorts to them.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 19, 2011, 05:48:18 PM
Until the offices open on Monday morning we only Billie Jeans word for it.

I think it's stunningly convenient that she remembered after the offices were closed.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 19, 2011, 06:20:33 PM
Really interesting thought from the HFHD FB page:

http://www.facebook.com/find.hailey.dunn

"Help Find Hailey Dunn - Missing From Texas
It just dawned on me the judge may have made a "No contact order with Shawn Adkins" during Billie's arraignment Friday and that the protective order she is referring to was not her idea. Another thought is she asked for one because she was thoroughly pissed off at Shawn and blames her arrest on him."


I wouldn't be suprised if this is the case.  And VERY different than a requested PO.


Billie also said that the PO was that he couldnt come near her PROPERTY.    No, that is not what a PO or a TRO or RO does.   They are designed to order an individual not to come within a stated distance of an INDIVIDUAL, no matter where that INDIVIDUAL is.    This had to be explained to her explicitly so its interesting that she is even lying about that


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 19, 2011, 06:28:11 PM
Until the offices open on Monday morning we only Billie Jeans word for it.

I think it's stunningly convenient that she remembered after the offices were closed.
::rhino:: ::rhino::

Here is a little theory that popped in to my overworked brain.  Forensic computer analysts going through the thumb drive find images that were not on the computer.  That device can't download anything, so I guess that might be the clue for them to get the warrant a search for more devices. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 19, 2011, 06:41:13 PM
Protective Order

Billie Dunn Says She Has Protective Order against Shawn Adkins
Friday, March 18 2011


Billie Dunn, whose 13-year-old daughter has been missing since last December, says she has a protective order against Shawn Adkins, her former live-in boyfriend and the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance.

<snipped>

The protective order was filed as a direct result of what happened last night, Dunn told Luong.  The filing cannot be confirmed at this time because the courts are closed.

<snipped>

According to Dunn, Adkins cannot come near property for a year under the protective order.  She said she has no plans to see him again and will not rekindle a relationship with him in the future.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353316




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 19, 2011, 06:44:06 PM
The above article does not specify that it was Billie who requested this restraining order.  Was it a ruling from the court as a stipulation of bond?

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 19, 2011, 07:44:17 PM
Protective Order

Billie Dunn Says She Has Protective Order against Shawn Adkins
Friday, March 18 2011


Billie Dunn, whose 13-year-old daughter has been missing since last December, says she has a protective order against Shawn Adkins, her former live-in boyfriend and the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance.

<snipped>

The protective order was filed as a direct result of what happened last night, Dunn told Luong.  The filing cannot be confirmed at this time because the courts are closed.

<snipped>

According to Dunn, Adkins cannot come near property for a year under the protective order.  She said she has no plans to see him again and will not rekindle a relationship with him in the future.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353316




Janet, see my above post.

I also think that Billie may have tried to get out of trouble by stating that she was afraid of Shawn & that is why she lied (cant be the truth because Shawn called LE himself and said he was indeed at her house as reported by the Snyder paper referenced in an earlier post here).   The judge in his wisdom (believing her or not) may have said "Okay, Ms. Dunn I'll tell ya what I'll order a Protective Order against Shawn Adkins and he cannot come near you within X distance."   If they disregard that Order, Shawn and/or both can actually be taken into custody.   

A PO or as in other states it is referred to as an TRO or RO (if permanent) orders an individual to stay away from a person, not a property.  Also, in most states a temporary one is issued with a court date to determine if a permanent order will be issued, I'll have to look at the pertinent Texas statute.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 19, 2011, 07:44:49 PM
The above article does not specify that it was Billie who requested this restraining order.  Was it a ruling from the court as a stipulation of bond?

Janet

That is also entirely possible


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Boston Lady on March 19, 2011, 08:20:38 PM
The above article does not specify that it was Billie who requested this restraining order.  Was it a ruling from the court as a stipulation of bond?

Janet

That is also entirely possible






The fact that Billie didn't remember to tell the news reporter during the interview, tells me that she did not seek this restraining order.   In her "Billie speak",  that the restraining order was a direct result of what happened Thursday night , must mean the judge ordered it.

If she sought this order of protection, she would have stated that before anything else.   As we've all seen before, Billie places herself first before anyone else.     ::rhino::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 19, 2011, 08:24:38 PM
The above article does not specify that it was Billie who requested this restraining order.  Was it a ruling from the court as a stipulation of bond?

Janet

That is also entirely possible






The fact that Billie didn't remember to tell the news reporter during the interview, tells me that she did not seek this restraining order.   In her "Billie speak",  that the restraining order was a direct result of what happened Thursday night , must mean the judge ordered it.

If she sought this order of protection, she would have stated that before anything else.   As we've all seen before, Billie places herself first before anyone else.     ::rhino::

I believe it was the judge's order AFTER Billie tried to get out of trouble for lying to LE by stating she was afraid.   Considering Shawn called LE to state that he was in the house indicates to me that BILLIE was the one that didnt want LE to talk to Shawn.    Also take note that in one of her direct statements to the press that "they were arguing."   She didnt say "he came over and I was petrified what he would do" no she said "they were arguing."


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on March 19, 2011, 08:32:05 PM
We all know that these 2 toxic lovers will not stay apart.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 19, 2011, 09:01:33 PM
We all know that these 2 toxic lovers will not stay apart.

Speaking of which...It might be a good idea for LE to request kindly or get a subpoena for people close to Billie & Shawn as they may be communicating with those individual's phones (i.e. Shawn's mother, Billie's mother, etc. etc).

Its rather obvious that they must be aware that their phones may be tapped.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sunshine12 on March 19, 2011, 09:49:05 PM
if it is found that billie violates the protection order in anyway by attemping to make contact with shawn, she could be found in violation of the order as well and sent back to jail


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Boston Lady on March 19, 2011, 10:53:16 PM
if it is found that billie violates the protection order in anyway by attemping to make contact with shawn, she could be found in violation of the order as well and sent back to jail







I wonder if part of her bonding out is that she has to take drug tests.   I don't see that Billie is going to be able to stay away from her non-prescribed drugs very long.   Besides the withdrawal, she is under some intense stress with all the lying and dancing around she has had to do.  And, she is alone.   No Shawn.   No David.    No Clint.    And no Hailey.    It must be eating at her every minute.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 19, 2011, 10:54:32 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353486 (http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353486)

(http://bigcountryhomepage.com/images/Multi_Media/bigcountryhomepage/nxd_media/img/jpg/2011_03/890b3915-4b44-d7b4-95c1-3a73f391c4c4//220x165.jpg)

Billie Dunn Says she Filed No-Trespassing Order against Adkins

Reported by: Jessica Reyes
Saturday, March 19 2011
The mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn said she filed a no trespassing order against her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.

Billie Dunn said investigators found disturbing messages about her in Adkins' cell phone Thursday. She didn't wish to go into detail, but described the content as "threatening."

Dunn said Adkins can't come on her property for a year under the order she filed Friday.

"He made threats against me. I don't think he sent them anywhere. They were just on the memo pad...I got scared and I didn't want him to be able to come over here at all anymore," she said.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 19, 2011, 10:55:56 PM
Who types threatening messages on their cellphone message pad but doesn't send them? 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 19, 2011, 11:12:58 PM
Really interesting thought from the HFHD FB page:

http://www.facebook.com/find.hailey.dunn

"Help Find Hailey Dunn - Missing From Texas
It just dawned on me the judge may have made a "No contact order with Shawn Adkins" during Billie's arraignment Friday and that the protective order she is referring to was not her idea. Another thought is she asked for one because she was thoroughly pissed off at Shawn and blames her arrest on him."


I wouldn't be suprised if this is the case.  And VERY different than a requested PO.


Billie also said that the PO was that he couldnt come near her PROPERTY.    No, that is not what a PO or a TRO or RO does.   They are designed to order an individual not to come within a stated distance of an INDIVIDUAL, no matter where that INDIVIDUAL is.    This had to be explained to her explicitly so its interesting that she is even lying about that

Well technically she's right, Capp, as she never leaves the couch - thus he would have to stay away from her property.    ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 19, 2011, 11:15:23 PM
::snipping2:: Janet, see my above post.

I also think that Billie may have tried to get out of trouble by stating that she was afraid of Shawn & that is why she lied (cant be the truth because Shawn called LE himself and said he was indeed at her house as reported by the Snyder paper referenced in an earlier post here).   The judge in his wisdom (believing her or not) may have said "Okay, Ms. Dunn I'll tell ya what I'll order a Protective Order against Shawn Adkins and he cannot come near you within X distance."   If they disregard that Order, Shawn and/or both can actually be taken into custody.   

A PO or as in other states it is referred to as an TRO or RO (if permanent) orders an individual to stay away from a person, not a property.  Also, in most states a temporary one is issued with a court date to determine if a permanent order will be issued, I'll have to look at the pertinent Texas statute.

I think you're spot on, Capp.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 19, 2011, 11:17:24 PM
Who types threatening messages on their cellphone message pad but doesn't send them? 

Id say no one.   I dont believe her for a second...she's setting him up so she doesnt take a fall...shes about to crack IMHO   How do we know she didnt type that in his memo pad to set him up?    He called LE to say he was at the house, why would he do that after she lied & got hauled off in cuffs?

They have been seen together consistently throughout this entire time & it sure as heck was not one sided.  Including the woman from Hailey's Angels (search team) witnessing BILLIE with roses for Shawn on Valentine's day.

What the heck is a no trespassing order, in all my years (albeit it mainly northeast) Ive never heard of such a thing.   If she felt threatened she needs more than a no trespass on her property....my hinky meter just went way up AGAIN


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 19, 2011, 11:18:47 PM
Really interesting thought from the HFHD FB page:

http://www.facebook.com/find.hailey.dunn

"Help Find Hailey Dunn - Missing From Texas
It just dawned on me the judge may have made a "No contact order with Shawn Adkins" during Billie's arraignment Friday and that the protective order she is referring to was not her idea. Another thought is she asked for one because she was thoroughly pissed off at Shawn and blames her arrest on him."


I wouldn't be suprised if this is the case.  And VERY different than a requested PO.


Billie also said that the PO was that he couldnt come near her PROPERTY.    No, that is not what a PO or a TRO or RO does.   They are designed to order an individual not to come within a stated distance of an INDIVIDUAL, no matter where that INDIVIDUAL is.    This had to be explained to her explicitly so its interesting that she is even lying about that

Well technically she's right, Capp, as she never leaves the couch - thus he would have to stay away from her property.    ::MonkeyJnBox::


Bahaha!   Well with the exception of getting her tattoo, highlights & hair extensions...what is seeing attempting to get dolled up for?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 19, 2011, 11:20:16 PM
::snipping2::
I wonder if part of her bonding out is that she has to take drug tests.   I don't see that Billie is going to be able to stay away from her non-prescribed drugs very long.   Besides the withdrawal, she is under some intense stress with all the lying and dancing around she has had to do.  And, she is alone.   No Shawn.   No David.    No Clint.    And no Hailey.    It must be eating at her every minute.

Well she never gave Shawn up, David wasn't the baby she wanted, she has Clint at her beck and call apparently, and Hailey - well she might have been part of that.  She's so stressed out that she's going to concerts and getting a suntan.  Poor gal.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 19, 2011, 11:21:55 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353486 (http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353486)

(http://bigcountryhomepage.com/images/Multi_Media/bigcountryhomepage/nxd_media/img/jpg/2011_03/890b3915-4b44-d7b4-95c1-3a73f391c4c4//220x165.jpg)

Billie Dunn Says she Filed No-Trespassing Order against Adkins

Reported by: Jessica Reyes
Saturday, March 19 2011
The mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn said she filed a no trespassing order against her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.

Billie Dunn said investigators found disturbing messages about her in Adkins' cell phone Thursday. She didn't wish to go into detail, but described the content as "threatening."

Dunn said Adkins can't come on her property for a year under the order she filed Friday.

"He made threats against me. I don't think he sent them anywhere. They were just on the memo pad...I got scared and I didn't want him to be able to come over here at all anymore," she said.
 ::snipping2::

Well that's stupid.  He made threats before against her and worse, Hailey, and that didn't stop her.  I call shenannigans.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 19, 2011, 11:25:21 PM
::snipping2::

Bahaha!   Well with the exception of getting her tattoo, highlights & hair extensions...what is seeing attempting to get dolled up for?

Don't forget the tan - the couch was too heavy to drag into the yard for that one.

The whole thing reminds me very strongly of when I was reclaiming my life back after removing some baggage from my life - in my case, my ex-husband, and I certainly didn't disappear him. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 19, 2011, 11:27:42 PM
Who types threatening messages on their cellphone message pad but doesn't send them? 

I  :smt049 you, klaas!

I was just explaining the 'memo pad' thing to my boyfriend, and he looked at me like I was crazy and said "who uses their memo pad?  And saves them?  Emo kids do that!  It's the same thing as a diary!!"   I have to agree.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 19, 2011, 11:28:34 PM
::snipping2::

Bahaha!   Well with the exception of getting her tattoo, highlights & hair extensions...what is seeing attempting to get dolled up for?

Don't forget the tan - the couch was too heavy to drag into the yard for that one.

The whole thing reminds me very strongly of when I was reclaiming my life back after removing some baggage from my life - in my case, my ex-husband, and I certainly didn't disappear him. 

ITA   Its been obvious that she is moving on with her life & leaving everything that once was behind.   She thinks she is home free...wonder if shaking those fake ta-ta's as a stripper for the local boys helped her out with that, you know me I call it like I see it.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 19, 2011, 11:29:45 PM
Who types threatening messages on their cellphone message pad but doesn't send them? 

I  :smt049 you, klaas!

I was just explaining the 'memo pad' thing to my boyfriend, and he looked at me like I was crazy and said "who uses their memo pad?  And saves them?  Emo kids do that!  It's the same thing as a diary!!"   I have to agree.

And that sounds like Billie behavior, not Shawn.  Shawn likes to videotape.   Come on Billie if you're gonna lie at least attempt to make it believable...geez!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 19, 2011, 11:31:20 PM
I have this children's book that I read to my 6 yr old son that talks about how lying is wrong and leads to more lies.  Maybe I should FedEx it to BD.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 19, 2011, 11:38:13 PM
OK, this has been bothering me all day and I've only now had enough time to sit down and type this out and ask y'all.

Child porn:  they found it on devices and linked it to Shawn's email.  So why is he NOT in jail?  I mean sure - there might be more people involved, but if the FBI found it and linked it to his email, why isn't he in jail now while they figure out who else had it.  Maybe it would make the other people feel more relaxed - like they got everyone and they don't have to worry any more.

"The affidavit details that pornographic images were found among deleted e-mail files on Adkins' cell phone"
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html

"There the FBI found images of child pornography, other obscene images including adult pornography, deviant sexual behavior, even bestiality.  They could trace those pictures back to Shawn's email, they say." (video at around 1:00  http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html )


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 19, 2011, 11:40:01 PM
OK, this has been bothering me all day and I've only now had enough time to sit down and type this out and ask y'all.

Child porn:  they found it on devices and linked it to Shawn's email.  So why is he NOT in jail?  I mean sure - there might be more people involved, but if the FBI found it and linked it to his email, why isn't he in jail now while they figure out who else had it.  Maybe it would make the other people feel more relaxed - like they got everyone and they don't have to worry any more.

"The affidavit details that pornographic images were found among deleted e-mail files on Adkins' cell phone"
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html

"There the FBI found images of child pornography, other obscene images including adult pornography, deviant sexual behavior, even bestiality.  They could trace those pictures back to Shawn's email, they say." (video at around 1:00  http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html )

Goes to Grand Jury


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 19, 2011, 11:42:10 PM
::snipping2::

ITA   Its been obvious that she is moving on with her life & leaving everything that once was behind.   She thinks she is home free...wonder if shaking those fake ta-ta's as a stripper for the local boys helped her out with that, you know me I call it like I see it.

 I just finished eating, and it's a good thing - for two reasons.  First, for the sake of nausea, and second - because I would have had a hard time getting sushi off of my screen from the sudden laughter.  We really need a "put down your drink and food warning" emote for here. :)

You know, before this latest shakedown, I admit I was beginning to wonder if she didn't have some sort of sway over the whole town.  Now, I think that the LE are just fine, particularly with the help of the TR etc, and that if we could just keep Kampfer quiet, things might be a whole lot more clear and whole lot less frustrating!  :D


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 19, 2011, 11:43:36 PM
OK, this has been bothering me all day and I've only now had enough time to sit down and type this out and ask y'all.

Child porn:  they found it on devices and linked it to Shawn's email.  So why is he NOT in jail?  I mean sure - there might be more people involved, but if the FBI found it and linked it to his email, why isn't he in jail now while they figure out who else had it.  Maybe it would make the other people feel more relaxed - like they got everyone and they don't have to worry any more.

"The affidavit details that pornographic images were found among deleted e-mail files on Adkins' cell phone"
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html

"There the FBI found images of child pornography, other obscene images including adult pornography, deviant sexual behavior, even bestiality.  They could trace those pictures back to Shawn's email, they say." (video at around 1:00  http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html )

Goes to Grand Jury

Bah.  Well darnit Capp - can you get out your crystal ball (I know you have one there  - I see you type stuff and know when I read it that you know "stuff") and tell me when that's going to be, or I might have to raid BD and SA's collective Ativan stash!  :)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Boston Lady on March 19, 2011, 11:45:09 PM
::snipping2::

Bahaha!   Well with the exception of getting her tattoo, highlights & hair extensions...what is seeing attempting to get dolled up for?

Don't forget the tan - the couch was too heavy to drag into the yard for that one.

The whole thing reminds me very strongly of when I was reclaiming my life back after removing some baggage from my life - in my case, my ex-husband, and I certainly didn't disappear him. 


I thought she got hair extensions!!!   Then I second guessed myself and thought maybe it was just the new highlights and style that looks like that.   I'm glad someone else saw this.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Maybe she knew she was going to be arrested and wanted to be ready?    ::piggy::

It is getting to the point where nothing is shocking from Billie!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 19, 2011, 11:46:56 PM
According to Billie investigators saw that on his phone, would they really have even gone in his "memo pad" at first blush with no instruction to do so....I dont think so.   How is that enough to get any order when the threat was never transmitted?   Im telling ya something stinks of Billie spin.

How many times did she call 911 on him out of spite because they were arguing?   O yea that's right she felt it was important that he not take an Xbox from the house, never once mentioning feeling he would harm her or her children.

Im telling ya, LE better crack this case soon before I have a heart attack!  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 19, 2011, 11:47:00 PM
Hit enter too soon. 

Thanks for that info, Capp; so it's the same as before - I guess they just haven't seen it.  I really did lose sleep over it last night, and when I finally did sleep, I just had vague nightmares about Shawn all night.  Not fun.  I think I'm going to read about gardening, do a nice flowery purge of my brain for the night, and go to bed.

Nothing will happen tomorrow likely, but Monday could "get Western" as we say out here sometimes.  :)

Night night, Monkeys!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 19, 2011, 11:47:24 PM
Starwynn - I had that same question spinning in my head yesterday.  But then I realized LE has plenty on SA at this point in regards to the child porn.  But there is likely something related to SA's hobby that is going to lead LE to Hailey.  The arrest for the child porn is coming...but they can wait for just a bit while LE finds the link they need.  They are waiting to arrest on the child porn charges on purpose...for Hailey.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 19, 2011, 11:47:40 PM
OK, this has been bothering me all day and I've only now had enough time to sit down and type this out and ask y'all.

Child porn:  they found it on devices and linked it to Shawn's email.  So why is he NOT in jail?  I mean sure - there might be more people involved, but if the FBI found it and linked it to his email, why isn't he in jail now while they figure out who else had it.  Maybe it would make the other people feel more relaxed - like they got everyone and they don't have to worry any more.

"The affidavit details that pornographic images were found among deleted e-mail files on Adkins' cell phone"
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html

"There the FBI found images of child pornography, other obscene images including adult pornography, deviant sexual behavior, even bestiality.  They could trace those pictures back to Shawn's email, they say." (video at around 1:00  http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html )

starwynn ... I agree.

Shawn's email.  Shawn's cell phone.

Shawn is one sicko.

Janet



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 19, 2011, 11:52:12 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353486 (http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353486)

(http://bigcountryhomepage.com/images/Multi_Media/bigcountryhomepage/nxd_media/img/jpg/2011_03/890b3915-4b44-d7b4-95c1-3a73f391c4c4//220x165.jpg)

Billie Dunn Says she Filed No-Trespassing Order against Adkins

Reported by: Jessica Reyes
Saturday, March 19 2011
The mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn said she filed a no trespassing order against her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.Billie Dunn said investigators found disturbing messages about her in Adkins' cell phone Thursday. She didn't wish to go into detail, but described the content as "threatening."

Dunn said Adkins can't come on her property for a year under the order she filed Friday.

"He made threats against me. I don't think he sent them anywhere. They were just on the memo pad...I got scared and I didn't want him to be able to come over here at all anymore," she said.
 ::snipping2::


Notice that this news article says NO TRESSPASSING Order.....not an order of protection.
Big Difference.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 19, 2011, 11:52:53 PM
OK, this has been bothering me all day and I've only now had enough time to sit down and type this out and ask y'all.

Child porn:  they found it on devices and linked it to Shawn's email.  So why is he NOT in jail?  I mean sure - there might be more people involved, but if the FBI found it and linked it to his email, why isn't he in jail now while they figure out who else had it.  Maybe it would make the other people feel more relaxed - like they got everyone and they don't have to worry any more.

"The affidavit details that pornographic images were found among deleted e-mail files on Adkins' cell phone"
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html

"There the FBI found images of child pornography, other obscene images including adult pornography, deviant sexual behavior, even bestiality.  They could trace those pictures back to Shawn's email, they say." (video at around 1:00  http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html )

Goes to Grand Jury

Bah.  Well darnit Capp - can you get out your crystal ball (I know you have one there  - I see you type stuff and know when I read it that you know "stuff") and tell me when that's going to be, or I might have to raid BD and SA's collective Ativan stash!  :)


Hush you! lol   No sooner than a preliminary analysis of that enormity of material, Id say it could be as soon as 2 weeks and as far out as 2 months....the crystal ball is a tad fuzzy tonight but it may clear up by some time next week...ya never know ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on March 19, 2011, 11:58:48 PM
Who types threatening messages on their cellphone message pad but doesn't send them? 
Ummmmm, a person who wears Halloween masks and carries a knife, 365 x 7 !


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 20, 2011, 12:01:02 AM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353486 (http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353486)

(http://bigcountryhomepage.com/images/Multi_Media/bigcountryhomepage/nxd_media/img/jpg/2011_03/890b3915-4b44-d7b4-95c1-3a73f391c4c4//220x165.jpg)

Billie Dunn Says she Filed No-Trespassing Order against Adkins

Reported by: Jessica Reyes
Saturday, March 19 2011
The mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn said she filed a no trespassing order against her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.Billie Dunn said investigators found disturbing messages about her in Adkins' cell phone Thursday. She didn't wish to go into detail, but described the content as "threatening."

Dunn said Adkins can't come on her property for a year under the order she filed Friday.

"He made threats against me. I don't think he sent them anywhere. They were just on the memo pad...I got scared and I didn't want him to be able to come over here at all anymore," she said.
 ::snipping2::


Notice that this news article says NO TRESSPASSING Order.....not an order of protection.
Big Difference.

Yea, tends to make you wonder which one is it since Billie is the only one talking about it.   How convenient she forgot to mention it until after the court clerk offices were closed for the weekend.

You do realize that if she wanted to prove what she had in the way of an Order, she by law had to have received a copy.

Regardless, whatever it truly is or isnt I personally do not believe Billie requested any type of protection from Shawn unless she felt that she was about to get ratted out by Shawn.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 20, 2011, 12:07:50 AM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353486 (http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353486)

(http://bigcountryhomepage.com/images/Multi_Media/bigcountryhomepage/nxd_media/img/jpg/2011_03/890b3915-4b44-d7b4-95c1-3a73f391c4c4//220x165.jpg)

Billie Dunn Says she Filed No-Trespassing Order against Adkins

Reported by: Jessica Reyes
Saturday, March 19 2011
The mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn said she filed a no trespassing order against her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.

Billie Dunn said investigators found disturbing messages about her in Adkins' cell phone Thursday. She didn't wish to go into detail, but described the content as "threatening."

Dunn said Adkins can't come on her property for a year under the order she filed Friday.

"He made threats against me. I don't think he sent them anywhere. They were just on the memo pad...I got scared and I didn't want him to be able to come over here at all anymore," she said.
 ::snipping2::

Why is Shawn having threatening thoughts about Billie?  Does he realize if a plea deal is offered to Billie ... he is going to go down for the happenings encompassing the disappearance of a little girl named Hailey.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 20, 2011, 12:10:10 AM
::snipping2::

Yea, tends to make you wonder which one is it since Billie is the only one talking about it.   How convenient she forgot to mention it until after the court clerk offices were closed for the weekend.

You do realize that if she wanted to prove what she had in the way of an Order, she by law had to have received a copy.

Regardless, whatever it truly is or isnt I personally do not believe Billie requested any type of protection from Shawn unless she felt that she was about to get ratted out by Shawn.

And here you said your crystal ball was not so crystal at the moment!  Psh.

No, I agree.  I would be highly surprised if she personally requested something, initiated it.  She might have played along with a "well then why don't you get a...." if she were pulling the old "Oh the big bad wolf was going to get me" bit.  I'm sorry - I have poison ivy, and I don't feel like pussy-footing tonight.  I'll feel guilty in about 2 minutes, but hopefully the benadryl will kick in by then and knock me out.  lol

I also agree about the convenience of her not only calling after the county clerk offices were closed, but also calling Luong instead of the current reporter covering her from that station.

Every little bit adds up, and as she digs a deeper hole, it just seems even deeper as she piles all this detritus up around her with the "Shawn-is-threatening", and the "got an order", and "I don't want to see him again".  We have tall boots here in Texas for the really deep stuff; I think I might have to start wearing them.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 20, 2011, 12:11:09 AM
OK, now I really am off to bed.  :)  Night night - don't tempt me to come back, y'all!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 20, 2011, 12:38:47 AM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353486 (http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353486)

(http://bigcountryhomepage.com/images/Multi_Media/bigcountryhomepage/nxd_media/img/jpg/2011_03/890b3915-4b44-d7b4-95c1-3a73f391c4c4//220x165.jpg)

Billie Dunn Says she Filed No-Trespassing Order against Adkins

Reported by: Jessica Reyes
Saturday, March 19 2011
The mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn said she filed a no trespassing order against her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.

Billie Dunn said investigators found disturbing messages about her in Adkins' cell phone Thursday. She didn't wish to go into detail, but described the content as "threatening."

Dunn said Adkins can't come on her property for a year under the order she filed Friday.

"He made threats against me. I don't think he sent them anywhere. They were just on the memo pad...I got scared and I didn't want him to be able to come over here at all anymore," she said.
 ::snipping2::

Why is Shawn having threatening thoughts about Billie?  Does he realize if a plea deal is offered to Billie ... he is going to go down for the happenings encompassing the disappearance of a little girl named Hailey.

Janet

Well, if everyone recalls she is the one that got rather emoted (very out of character) when it was suggested on BTH that maybe Shawn was going to go for a plea before her.   The ONLY other time she got upset was when it was being discussed that Shawn cheated on her.

She also despite everything that's been known by the public stuck by him & professed her love for him.   She insisted he could never harm anyone....blah blah blah

They are both toxic, both despicable.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 20, 2011, 12:45:10 AM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27252190/detail.html

Billie Dunn "Not As Hopeful", After Arrest & Affadavit RevealedBy Casey James, KTXS News
POSTED: 10:07 pm CDT March 19, 2011
UPDATED: 10:59 pm CDT March 19, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Tx -- The mother of the Colorado City missing teen admits she's beginning to lose hope.

This after Billie Dunn was arrested Thursday and affidavits obtained exclusively by KTXS, show that authorities found more pornography, including child porn, on devices used by Shawn Adkins, Billie's former boyfriend.

After Billie Dunn was arrested and interrogated, she is now doubting Adkins innocence.

Billie told KTXS "There's so much that's happened, so much that I found out about him..I think about 'did he have time to hurt my daughter?' and 'why would he hurt he?.'"

 ::snipping2::


Geesh, now she is doubting him?  ::MonkeyMad::



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 20, 2011, 12:47:16 AM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27252190/detail.html

Billie Dunn "Not As Hopeful", After Arrest & Affadavit RevealedBy Casey James, KTXS News
POSTED: 10:07 pm CDT March 19, 2011
UPDATED: 10:59 pm CDT March 19, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Tx -- The mother of the Colorado City missing teen admits she's beginning to lose hope.

This after Billie Dunn was arrested Thursday and affidavits obtained exclusively by KTXS, show that authorities found more pornography, including child porn, on devices used by Shawn Adkins, Billie's former boyfriend.

After Billie Dunn was arrested and interrogated, she is now doubting Adkins innocence.

Billie told KTXS "There's so much that's happened, so much that I found out about him..I think about 'did he have time to hurt my daughter?' and 'why would he hurt he?.'"

 ::snipping2::


Geesh, now she is doubting him?  ::MonkeyMad::




BULL, she knows dang well what happened.   She is setting up her defense...now its crystal clear!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 20, 2011, 12:49:32 AM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27252190/detail.html

Billie Dunn "Not As Hopeful", After Arrest & Affadavit RevealedBy Casey James, KTXS News
POSTED: 10:07 pm CDT March 19, 2011
UPDATED: 10:59 pm CDT March 19, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Tx -- The mother of the Colorado City missing teen admits she's beginning to lose hope.

This after Billie Dunn was arrested Thursday and affidavits obtained exclusively by KTXS, show that authorities found more pornography, including child porn, on devices used by Shawn Adkins, Billie's former boyfriend.

After Billie Dunn was arrested and interrogated, she is now doubting Adkins innocence.

Billie told KTXS "There's so much that's happened, so much that I found out about him..I think about 'did he have time to hurt my daughter?' and 'why would he hurt he?.'"

 ::snipping2::


Geesh, now she is doubting him?  ::MonkeyMad::




BULL, she knows dang well what happened.   She is setting up her defense...now its crystal clear!


Sorry for quoting myself but this is in the same article linked above:

Billie told us "I tried to stand by him at first because I really felt like I knew him. I know he wouldn't hurt Hailey and why would he but after I talked to investigators it puts doubt in my mind."

WHAT IS THIS THE REDUX VERSION, didnt we hear this before...like after the failed polys?   Come on Billie, cut the crap!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 20, 2011, 12:58:24 AM
 No-Trespassing Order protection Order, i think BD is making it sound like
its 2 dif orders,if indeed there is a Protective Order, we all know BD knows
double speak, and since SA is a named suspect in the disappearance of hailey
BD daughter,i think LE will take all threats SA would make seriously, and you
would think if LE is looking for something on SA phone,LE would check every
function in/on the phone, i think LE is tightening the noose

what it looks like and how to file #7 property order
https://www.oag.state.tx.us/AG_Publications/pdfs/protectiveKit_dv.pdf
more info
https://www.oag.state.tx.us/victims/protective.shtml



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 20, 2011, 01:34:14 AM
No-Trespassing Order protection Order, i think BD is making it sound like
its 2 dif orders,if indeed there is a Protective Order, we all know BD knows
double speak, and since SA is a named suspect in the disappearance of hailey
BD daughter,i think LE will take all threats SA would make seriously, and you
would think if LE is looking for something on SA phone,LE would check every
function in/on the phone, i think LE is tightening the noose

what it looks like and how to file #7 property order
https://www.oag.state.tx.us/AG_Publications/pdfs/protectiveKit_dv.pdf
more info
https://www.oag.state.tx.us/victims/protective.shtml


She has no intention of staying away from him.   She is doing the same as she did before.  That being said, i was right she could not have gotten a PO for a year automatically.   An individual is first granted a temporary ex parte order.

Taken from second link above: Capp - next time please just go ahead and post the link.  I ask this because if/when posts may get quoted and quoted again, the link can get lost.  It's best to put the link with the post.  MB
ADDING LINK WITH QUOTED MATERIAL FROM ARTICLE.  MB https://www.oag.state.tx.us/victims/protective.shtml
How Long Does it Take to Receive and How Long Does it Remain in Effect?

Unless a later date is requested by the applicant, the court shall set a hearing date no later than 14 days after the application is filed. If, however, the court finds from the information contained in the application that there is a clear and present danger of family violence, the court may immediately issue a temporary ex parte order. The temporary order is valid for up to 20 days. Final protective orders are effective for up to one year.

By getting a "No Trespassing" it entails not being allowed on a property as I originally stated but here is the Texas Penal Code on that:
http://law.onecle.com/texas/penal/30.05.00.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 20, 2011, 01:34:52 AM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27252190/detail.html

Billie Dunn "Not As Hopeful", After Arrest & Affadavit Revealed
By Casey James, KTXS News
POSTED: 10:07 pm CDT March 19, 2011
UPDATED: 10:59 pm CDT March 19, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Tx -- The mother of the Colorado City missing teen admits she's beginning to lose hope.

This after Billie Dunn was arrested Thursday and affidavits obtained exclusively by KTXS, show that authorities found more pornography, including child porn, on devices used by Shawn Adkins, Billie's former boyfriend.

After Billie Dunn was arrested and interrogated, she is now doubting Adkins innocence.

Billie told KTXS "There's so much that's happened, so much that I found out about him..I think about 'did he have time to hurt my daughter?' and 'why would he hurt he?.'"

 ::snipping2::


Geesh, now she is doubting him?  ::MonkeyMad::



Thanks grace-land.

My theory implies that Shawn confessed to Billie on December 29th ... confessed that he killed Hailey before the rising of the sun on December 27th and ... a short time after arriving at work that morning he departed and returned home immediately after she left for work ... retrieved a deceased Hailey from her bed and ... disposed of her body at some period throughout the day..

Could it have been a warped sense of love?  Could it be that Shawn was in a position to  implicate Billie in wrongdoing ... wrongdoing that could land her behind bars for a long time?  Nevertheless ... a decision was made to distance Shawn from implication.

Could it be that a plea deal to avoid the full consequences of wrongdoing has been offered to Billie ... Shawn is going to go down and ... justice for Hailey will be realized?

Janet

 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on March 20, 2011, 01:36:23 AM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27252190/detail.html

Billie Dunn "Not As Hopeful", After Arrest & Affadavit RevealedBy Casey James, KTXS News
POSTED: 10:07 pm CDT March 19, 2011
UPDATED: 10:59 pm CDT March 19, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Tx -- The mother of the Colorado City missing teen admits she's beginning to lose hope.

This after Billie Dunn was arrested Thursday and affidavits obtained exclusively by KTXS, show that authorities found more pornography, including child porn, on devices used by Shawn Adkins, Billie's former boyfriend.

After Billie Dunn was arrested and interrogated, she is now doubting Adkins innocence.

Billie told KTXS "There's so much that's happened, so much that I found out about him..I think about 'did he have time to hurt my daughter?' and 'why would he hurt he?.'"

 ::snipping2::


Geesh, now she is doubting him?  ::MonkeyMad::




BULL, she knows dang well what happened.   She is setting up her defense...now its crystal clear!


Sorry for quoting myself but this is in the same article linked above:

Billie told us "I tried to stand by him at first because I really felt like I knew him. I know he wouldn't hurt Hailey and why would he but after I talked to investigators it puts doubt in my mind."

WHAT IS THIS THE REDUX VERSION, didnt we hear this before...like after the failed polys?   Come on Billie, cut the crap!

BINGO...second verse same as the first.

I was thinking about the no tresspass order and was too lazy to type it out, but Teh on WS had the same thought so I snagged hers:

So, SA has "something" that's usually on him that LE wanted. BD lied to LE about SA being there. NOW BD has a no trespass on HER HOUSE - where possibly SA dumped whatever he had, and LE think she is hiding something for SA. What if.......it was memory sticks of porn which showed BD in a criminal or uh, well, an act and BD has been trying to get these back from SA the whole time before she rolls on him. She now has them because he had to dump them at her house so now she's done with him?

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131156&page=3


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 20, 2011, 01:38:30 AM
Today life beckoned outside the computer room.  Thanks to all for the updates, insights and research.  It was very much appreciated.

Good Night All

Janet
10:40 PM PT


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 20, 2011, 01:41:36 AM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353486 (http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353486)

(http://bigcountryhomepage.com/images/Multi_Media/bigcountryhomepage/nxd_media/img/jpg/2011_03/890b3915-4b44-d7b4-95c1-3a73f391c4c4//220x165.jpg)

Billie Dunn Says she Filed No-Trespassing Order against Adkins

Reported by: Jessica Reyes
Saturday, March 19 2011
The mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn said she filed a no trespassing order against her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.Billie Dunn said investigators found disturbing messages about her in Adkins' cell phone Thursday. She didn't wish to go into detail, but described the content as "threatening."

Dunn said Adkins can't come on her property for a year under the order she filed Friday.

"He made threats against me. I don't think he sent them anywhere. They were just on the memo pad...I got scared and I didn't want him to be able to come over here at all anymore," she said.
 ::snipping2::


Notice that this news article says NO TRESSPASSING Order.....not an order of protection.
Big Difference.

Yup, HUGE

Also notice that she obviously went right home got her makeup on, redid her hair but she's in the same dang t-shirt....ewwwww


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Shell on March 20, 2011, 01:49:18 AM


OT

Capp, are you Freda on the Bail Bond site?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Boston Lady on March 20, 2011, 01:49:50 AM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27252190/detail.html

Billie Dunn "Not As Hopeful", After Arrest & Affadavit RevealedBy Casey James, KTXS News
POSTED: 10:07 pm CDT March 19, 2011
UPDATED: 10:59 pm CDT March 19, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Tx -- The mother of the Colorado City missing teen admits she's beginning to lose hope.

This after Billie Dunn was arrested Thursday and affidavits obtained exclusively by KTXS, show that authorities found more pornography, including child porn, on devices used by Shawn Adkins, Billie's former boyfriend.

After Billie Dunn was arrested and interrogated, she is now doubting Adkins innocence.

Billie told KTXS "There's so much that's happened, so much that I found out about him..I think about 'did he have time to hurt my daughter?' and 'why would he hurt he?.'"

 ::snipping2::


Geesh, now she is doubting him?  ::MonkeyMad::




BULL, she knows dang well what happened.   She is setting up her defense...now its crystal clear!


Sorry for quoting myself but this is in the same article linked above:

Billie told us "I tried to stand by him at first because I really felt like I knew him. I know he wouldn't hurt Hailey and why would he but after I talked to investigators it puts doubt in my mind."

WHAT IS THIS THE REDUX VERSION, didnt we hear this before...like after the failed polys?   Come on Billie, cut the crap!

BINGO...second verse same as the first.

I was thinking about the no tresspass order and was too lazy to type it out, but Teh on WS had the same thought so I snagged hers:

So, SA has "something" that's usually on him that LE wanted. BD lied to LE about SA being there. NOW BD has a no trespass on HER HOUSE - where possibly SA dumped whatever he had, and LE think she is hiding something for SA. What if.......it was memory sticks of porn which showed BD in a criminal or uh, well, an act and BD has been trying to get these back from SA the whole time before she rolls on him. She now has them because he had to dump them at her house so now she's done with him?

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131156&page=3





But, wouldn't SA just tell LE that BJD has it?   They won't believe either of them at this point.

The comment I have is how many interviews has this woman given since she stepped out of jail?   I would think she would get home and say "no comment" and get a lawyer.   Instead she calls almost every news outlet there and has an interview?  And with each interview she changes it up slightly.

I see the bus heading straight on into Shawn.   Shawn might want to run to LE and see if he can make a deal.    ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 20, 2011, 01:50:50 AM
Billie Dunn "Not As Hopeful", After Arrest & Affadavit Revealed
By Casey James, KTXS News

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27252190/detail.html

VIDEO IS UP

In my view, she's lying thru her teeth but it does appear now that she is crawling with fear that her lies are catching up to her.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 20, 2011, 02:00:00 AM


OT

Capp, are you Freda on the Bail Bond site?

No, Im Paula on FB and Cappuccino everywhere else I post.   The Freda you are referring to may be the lady from Hailey's Angels (search group).


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 20, 2011, 02:01:46 AM
PS Shell what bail bond site?   Link please


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Shell on March 20, 2011, 02:11:01 AM
PS Shell what bail bond site?   Link please

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002141487815

WELL WE TRIED TO BAILOUT '''BILLIE DUNN''' FROM MITCHELL COUNTY....BUT SHE ALREADY GOT LEGAL REPRESENTATION TO THAT SITUATION.....THEY HUNG UP ON ME.....HAHAHAHA


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 20, 2011, 02:14:14 AM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353486 (http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353486)

(http://bigcountryhomepage.com/images/Multi_Media/bigcountryhomepage/nxd_media/img/jpg/2011_03/890b3915-4b44-d7b4-95c1-3a73f391c4c4//220x165.jpg)

Billie Dunn Says she Filed No-Trespassing Order against Adkins

Reported by: Jessica Reyes
Saturday, March 19 2011
The mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn said she filed a no trespassing order against her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.Billie Dunn said investigators found disturbing messages about her in Adkins' cell phone Thursday. She didn't wish to go into detail, but described the content as "threatening."

Dunn said Adkins can't come on her property for a year under the order she filed Friday."

He made threats against me. I don't think he sent them anywhere. They were just on the memo pad...I got scared and I didn't want him to be able to come over here at all anymore," she said.
 ::snipping2::


Notice that this news article says NO TRESSPASSING Order.....not an order of protection.
Big Difference.

Agree, Magnolia.  ^^Highlited part in red above.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Shell on March 20, 2011, 02:15:10 AM
PS Shell what bail bond site?   Link please

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002141487815

WELL WE TRIED TO BAILOUT '''BILLIE DUNN''' FROM MITCHELL COUNTY....BUT SHE ALREADY GOT LEGAL REPRESENTATION TO THAT SITUATION.....THEY HUNG UP ON ME.....HAHAHAHA




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 20, 2011, 02:17:20 AM
PS Shell what bail bond site?   Link please

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002141487815

WELL WE TRIED TO BAILOUT '''BILLIE DUNN''' FROM MITCHELL COUNTY....BUT SHE ALREADY GOT LEGAL REPRESENTATION TO THAT SITUATION.....THEY HUNG UP ON ME.....HAHAHAHA

I cant see the page, its set to private but yea I dont think that is the same Freda.   The statement you quoted cant be true whatsoever because Billie refused her right to get an attorney and also having a public defender assigned to her.

What I do want to know is how her mother was allowed to bail her out (as reported) if she just got out of jail herself on bond.   Im pretty sure that is a no-no.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Shell on March 20, 2011, 02:36:55 AM

Well if one was offered, she voluntarily vacated it & continued to stay together with him.  She was told point blank that she should stay away from him until & if he was cleared, she defied that advise.   I think she brought up getting one to get herself out of trouble for lying but get this....

Freda Radcliff I didnt buy her BS from day one...She is protecting him way too hard for some reason...and i tend to believe that reason is...they both know what has happened to Hailey and are both involved!!!!

I asked the following:   I actually thought that Freda, please tell me you heard that from a reliable source because I felt that BILLIE has been the one preventing Shawn from talking to LE or anyone, especially since he canceled an interview due to "a cold" how lame & yet she came on despite what she was told prior to her calling in several times

Freda Radcliff Yes I am serious....and that was in our paper today, Shawn ratted the dumb a$$ out lol
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905
Freda Radcliff I am sure her mom has given her a Snyder paper...she lives here...so I am sure she has seen it...

That's you?  LOL  I love your posts!

If anyone wants to read that exchange, and it is a doozy, it's at the link that Capp gave, in the thread that starts with "(TH) I find it disturbing "
Again, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905

Capp, this is why I asked. The Freda Radcliff mentioned here was the same one who posted on the bail bond site and Starwynn said "That's you?  LOL  I love your posts!" so I thought it was you.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 20, 2011, 02:42:17 AM

Well if one was offered, she voluntarily vacated it & continued to stay together with him.  She was told point blank that she should stay away from him until & if he was cleared, she defied that advise.   I think she brought up getting one to get herself out of trouble for lying but get this....

Freda Radcliff I didnt buy her BS from day one...She is protecting him way too hard for some reason...and i tend to believe that reason is...they both know what has happened to Hailey and are both involved!!!!

I asked the following:   I actually thought that Freda, please tell me you heard that from a reliable source because I felt that BILLIE has been the one preventing Shawn from talking to LE or anyone, especially since he canceled an interview due to "a cold" how lame & yet she came on despite what she was told prior to her calling in several times

Freda Radcliff Yes I am serious....and that was in our paper today, Shawn ratted the dumb a$$ out lol
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905
Freda Radcliff I am sure her mom has given her a Snyder paper...she lives here...so I am sure she has seen it...

That's you?  LOL  I love your posts!

If anyone wants to read that exchange, and it is a doozy, it's at the link that Capp gave, in the thread that starts with "(TH) I find it disturbing "
Again, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905

Capp, this is why I asked. The Freda Radcliff mentioned here was the same one who posted on the bail bond site and Starwynn said "That's you?  LOL  I love your posts!" so I thought it was you.


oooo lol gotcha...but Freda didnt say she tried to bail her out did she?   Id be shocked because she has no love lost for Billie and that is an understatement.  She was the one that witnessed Billie bringing roses to Shawn for Valentine's Day & the whole drama over the search dinner & video.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Shell on March 20, 2011, 02:58:38 AM



http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002141487815&sk=wall

WELL WE TRIED TO BAILOUT '''BILLIE DUNN''' FROM MITCHELL COUNTY....BUT SHE ALREADY GOT LEGAL REPRESENTATION TO THAT SITUATION.....THEY HUNG UP ON ME.....HAHAHAHA
Yesterday at 11:02am · Like ·
Freda Radcliff likes this.
Freda Radcliff One can only try...lol
Yesterday at 11:09am · Like ·  1 person
Bounty Bail Bonds LIKE THAT WAS NEWS PAPER RADIO FREE ADS...DANGIT....HAHA
Yesterday at 11:10am · Like ·  1 person
Freda Radcliff Lol...well we can get you publicity
Yesterday at 11:10am · Like ·  1 person
Bounty Bail Bonds PUBIC WHAT?????
Yesterday at 11:11am · Like
Freda Radcliff lmao...you bad
Yesterday at 11:11am · Like ·  1 person
Bounty Bail Bonds I MISSPELLED HAHAH
Yesterday at 11:11am · Like
Freda Radcliff Sure you did
Yesterday at 11:12am · Like ·  1 person
Freda Radcliff lol
Yesterday at 11:12am · Like ·  1 person
Bounty Bail Bonds HEHEHEHE HAHAHAHAH WOO HOO
Yesterday at 11:12am · Like

*I have no clue if this exchange can be posted here-sorry if I cause Mods more work


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: theboyzmom on March 20, 2011, 08:24:38 AM
Who types threatening messages on their cellphone message pad but doesn't send them? 

That was exactly my thought.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 20, 2011, 10:23:03 AM
PS Shell what bail bond site?   Link please

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002141487815

WELL WE TRIED TO BAILOUT '''BILLIE DUNN''' FROM MITCHELL COUNTY....BUT SHE ALREADY GOT LEGAL REPRESENTATION TO THAT SITUATION.....THEY HUNG UP ON ME.....HAHAHAHA

FYI - I can't find any Bail Bond company by that name.  The phone number is listed to Bobby Massey who is posting there too.  IMO this person either isn't a Bail Bondsman at all or he's a wanna be.






FYI - I can't find any Bail Bond company by that name.  The phone number is listed to Bobby Massey who is posting there too.  IMO this person either isn't a Bail Bondsman at all or he's a wanna be.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 20, 2011, 10:51:37 AM
PS Shell what bail bond site?   Link please

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002141487815

WELL WE TRIED TO BAILOUT '''BILLIE DUNN''' FROM MITCHELL COUNTY....BUT SHE ALREADY GOT LEGAL REPRESENTATION TO THAT SITUATION.....THEY HUNG UP ON ME.....HAHAHAHA

I cant see the page, its set to private but yea I dont think that is the same Freda.   The statement you quoted cant be true whatsoever because Billie refused her right to get an attorney and also having a public defender assigned to her.

What I do want to know is how her mother was allowed to bail her out (as reported) if she just got out of jail herself on bond.   Im pretty sure that is a no-no.

Maybe they called Leonard Padilla ::MonkeyEek::  If he couldn't get Casey Anthony to talk, perhaps he would have better luck with BJD.   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 20, 2011, 12:24:49 PM
Billie Dunn "Not As Hopeful", After Arrest & Affadavit Revealed
By Casey James, KTXS News

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27252190/detail.html

VIDEO IS UP

In my view, she's lying thru her teeth but it does appear now that she is crawling with fear that her lies are catching up to her.

I see she made sure to put her "Find Hailey" shirt on for the interview.  Nice gesture.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 20, 2011, 12:48:12 PM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27252190/detail.html

Billie Dunn "Not As Hopeful", After Arrest & Affadavit RevealedBy Casey James, KTXS News
POSTED: 10:07 pm CDT March 19, 2011
UPDATED: 10:59 pm CDT March 19, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Tx -- The mother of the Colorado City missing teen admits she's beginning to lose hope.

This after Billie Dunn was arrested Thursday and affidavits obtained exclusively by KTXS, show that authorities found more pornography, including child porn, on devices used by Shawn Adkins, Billie's former boyfriend.

After Billie Dunn was arrested and interrogated, she is now doubting Adkins innocence.

Billie told KTXS "There's so much that's happened, so much that I found out about him..I think about 'did he have time to hurt my daughter?' and 'why would he hurt he?.'"

 ::snipping2::


Geesh, now she is doubting him?  ::MonkeyMad::




BULL, she knows dang well what happened.   She is setting up her defense...now its crystal clear!

How about the questions  "Did he have time to help me cover things up?  Was *I* the one to bring him into this house?  Will he squeal and let everyone know who holds the reins here?"


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 20, 2011, 12:49:15 PM
Sorry for quoting myself but this is in the same article linked above:

Billie told us "I tried to stand by him at first because I really felt like I knew him. I know he wouldn't hurt Hailey and why would he but after I talked to investigators it puts doubt in my mind."

WHAT IS THIS THE REDUX VERSION, didnt we hear this before...like after the failed polys?   Come on Billie, cut the crap!

Well Capp, don't you know that the LE it 'putting that stuff in her head'?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Thunder_Sis on March 20, 2011, 12:53:24 PM
klass will you message me please? I need some direction on looking for something involving this case that hasn't been posted yet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 20, 2011, 12:57:48 PM
Capp, this is why I asked. The Freda Radcliff mentioned here was the same one who posted on the bail bond site and Starwynn said "That's you?  LOL  I love your posts!" so I thought it was you.

My bad - I meant "that's you?" =  Paula.  I think even Capp thought I meant Freda, because I stated it so poorly.  /blush

No Freda has been one of the more public HA's, had been on interviews about her, etc.  Bea Whacker is the other more public one, being the one that confronted BD at the dinner.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 20, 2011, 01:02:15 PM
Billie Dunn "Not As Hopeful", After Arrest & Affadavit Revealed
By Casey James, KTXS News

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27252190/detail.html

VIDEO IS UP

In my view, she's lying thru her teeth but it does appear now that she is crawling with fear that her lies are catching up to her.

I agree, she's lying.  Further more, there are two things I notice about this.  First, she's saying that LE is putting this in her head again.  That's her copout, I believe.  I don't believe she means a word she's saying.  The reason I don't believe it is because of her voice.  I have heard enough interviews of her in her full ranges of emotions to know that when she wants people to believe her, she uses a certain voice.  I call it the girly-voice.  She softens her voice, she opens her eyes really big, she tucks her chin, and she lies.  It's her "I'm a scared bunny - don't hurt me" voice.  I'm sure the voice has served her well through the years as a survivor.   My opinion only, but listen for that voice in interviews and see if you don't start to see it happening when she's trying to gardner sympathy.  That voice changes in an INSTANT to the mad-wet-hen if you cross her lines.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 20, 2011, 01:04:32 PM
I'm going to start watching for her to set LE up.  She's bringing them into this, purposefully, and there's some lie she's weaving around the foundation of "LE is putting....".  Is she going to go for the "LE put evidence..." stunt if they find stuff?  I know this has already cropped up in a couple of places where people support BD.  SHe does this when she uses the girly voice, and there's something behind it, but she hasn't come out with it yet.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 20, 2011, 01:40:30 PM
Billie Dunn implies that LE are putting thoughts into her head:

January 11, 2011:
http://www.ktxs.com/news/26452671/detail.html
"I never thought he would hurt Hailey, or had anything to do with this," Billie Dunn said, "until it was pounded in my head that that was a possibility. Nobody knows, though."

March 18, 2011:
"When I talk to investigators, they (pause) put certain thoughts in my head"
(around 1:35 http://www.ktxs.com/news/27242658/detail.html )

March 29, 2011
http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/27252190/detail.html
"But after I talked to investigators, it puts doubt in my mind."


Really, BD?  SA threatening to kill your daughter didn't 'put certain thoughts into your head'?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cookie on March 20, 2011, 01:44:55 PM
Billie is a wackadoodle and she is totally addicted to SA......sicko



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 20, 2011, 01:49:47 PM
Billie Dunn implies that LE are putting thoughts into her head:

January 11, 2011:
http://www.ktxs.com/news/26452671/detail.html
"I never thought he would hurt Hailey, or had anything to do with this," Billie Dunn said, "until it was pounded in my head that that was a possibility. Nobody knows, though."

March 18, 2011:
"When I talk to investigators, they (pause) put certain thoughts in my head"
(around 1:35 http://www.ktxs.com/news/27242658/detail.html )

March 29, 2011
http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/27252190/detail.html
"But after I talked to investigators, it puts doubt in my mind."


Really, BD?  SA threatening to kill your daughter didn't 'put certain thoughts into your head'?


Well my sweet starwynn, you're right on what I was trying to say...Billie spin redux # ....I lost count!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Thunder_Sis on March 20, 2011, 01:50:11 PM
NM Klaas I located the info I was looking for.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 20, 2011, 01:52:37 PM

A Huge Red Flag - In Billie Dunn's Own Words

Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Billie Jean Dunn: Blog Talk Radio Interview March 2


Host: When Shawn talked to his mother, what time on Tuesday was it, before lunch on Tuesday.

Billie Dunn: Yeah. I’m not sure what time he got to her house on Tuesday, but I believe it was in the morning, and he left in the afternoon.

Host: Okay, but what I was gonna ask is, what time did he tell her, state to her, that Hailey went missing?

Billie Dunn: Oh, well investigators let me know that she told him, Shawn told her at noon. I didn’t know Hailey was missing yet.

http://www.diigo.com/bookmark/http%3A%2F%2Fcasesignal.wordpress.com%2Fhailey-dunn-transcript-billie-jean-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-2?tab=people&uname=casesignal

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/03/bring-them-home-now--exclusive-billy-dunn-speaks-out-maybe-for-the-last-time


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 20, 2011, 02:03:57 PM

A Huge Red Flag - In Billie Dunn's Own Words

Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Billie Jean Dunn: Blog Talk Radio Interview March 2


Host: When Shawn talked to his mother, what time on Tuesday was it, before lunch on Tuesday.

Billie Dunn: Yeah. I’m not sure what time he got to her house on Tuesday, but I believe it was in the morning, and he left in the afternoon.

Host: Okay, but what I was gonna ask is, what time did he tell her, state to her, that Hailey went missing?

Billie Dunn: Oh, well investigators let me know that she told him, Shawn told her at noon. I didn’t know Hailey was missing yet.

http://www.diigo.com/bookmark/http%3A%2F%2Fcasesignal.wordpress.com%2Fhailey-dunn-transcript-billie-jean-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-2?tab=people&uname=casesignal

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/03/bring-them-home-now--exclusive-billy-dunn-speaks-out-maybe-for-the-last-time


Those words werent just to put the blame on Shawn, they were said to cover the truth that she knew before then as well.  I cannot express this more adamantly but it is my belief that Hailey never left that house under her own power beyond the evening/early morning hours of Dec 26th/27th, before they both left to go to work in the morning of the 27th.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 20, 2011, 02:12:39 PM
Well my sweet starwynn, you're right on what I was trying to say...Billie spin redux # ....I lost count!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I think we're on 2,385,002 now.   :)

Capp, she can't stop.  She can't keep track of conversations she had the night before in public, and occasionally on the very same day, same conversation.  When you get in that deep, that many fabrications, you can't keep track of them without notes.  We all called her out when she brought notes to her press conference, and she can't keep notes with her anymore.

But I have no doubt that she's a tenacious person, and I can see a few things on which she is working, and a few technicques that have worked in the past that she uses now.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: TexasTater on March 20, 2011, 02:19:04 PM
Billie Dunn implies that LE are putting thoughts into her head:

January 11, 2011:
http://www.ktxs.com/news/26452671/detail.html
"I never thought he would hurt Hailey, or had anything to do with this," Billie Dunn said, "until it was pounded in my head that that was a possibility. Nobody knows, though."

March 18, 2011:
"When I talk to investigators, they (pause) put certain thoughts in my head"
(around 1:35 http://www.ktxs.com/news/27242658/detail.html )

March 29, 2011
http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/27252190/detail.html
"But after I talked to investigators, it puts doubt in my mind."


Really, BD?  SA threatening to kill your daughter didn't 'put certain thoughts into your head'?

She's done all this before then defended him. I wonder how long it'll be bofore she's sneaking around seeing him again.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cookie on March 20, 2011, 02:46:47 PM
How did SA know before Billie that Hailey was missing before noon??
Wouldn't Billie ask herself that question??? This woman needs to be water boarded IMO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 20, 2011, 02:49:14 PM

A Huge Red Flag - In Billie Dunn's Own Words

Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Billie Jean Dunn: Blog Talk Radio Interview March 2


Host: When Shawn talked to his mother, what time on Tuesday was it, before lunch on Tuesday.

Billie Dunn: Yeah. I’m not sure what time he got to her house on Tuesday, but I believe it was in the morning, and he left in the afternoon.

Host: Okay, but what I was gonna ask is, what time did he tell her, state to her, that Hailey went missing?

Billie Dunn: Oh, well investigators let me know that she told him, Shawn told her at noon. I didn’t know Hailey was missing yet.

http://www.diigo.com/bookmark/http%3A%2F%2Fcasesignal.wordpress.com%2Fhailey-dunn-transcript-billie-jean-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-2?tab=people&uname=casesignal

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/03/bring-them-home-now--exclusive-billy-dunn-speaks-out-maybe-for-the-last-time


Those words werent just to put the blame on Shawn, they were said to cover the truth that she knew before then as well.  I cannot express this more adamantly but it is my belief that Hailey never left that house under her own power beyond the evening/early morning hours of Dec 26th/27th, before they both left to go to work in the morning of the 27th.

Your belief reflects my contention from the first time that I first read the affidavit ...  the affidavit which  revealed that Shawn claimed to investigators that he drove directly to Big Spring following his sudden departure from his workplace on the morning of December 27th.  The affidavits exposed that cell records revealed that Shawn had returned to Colorado City.  Also ... the revelation in the affidavid that Hailey's jacket and belongings were not missing from the home was a giant red flag for me.  December 27th was a cold winter day.

However ... our speculations do differ Capp.  You believe that Billie was aware that Shawn was involved in the death of Hailey from the getgo.  My contention is that Shawn confessed to her on December 29th when he was forced to reveal to both her and  investigators that he was not at work during that day on December 27th.

Hopefully whatever is the truth regarding the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Hailey as well as those who participanted ... I pray it will be revealed.  Hailey is worthy of justice.

Janet

++++++


AFFIDAVITS

http://www.newswest9.com/Global/link.asp?L=471989


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 20, 2011, 02:50:50 PM
TAMIKOSMOM'S THEORY

The Disappearing of Hailey in a Nutshell


December 26, 2010 - PM
- David observes Hailey on xbox prior to leaving the home.
- Billie later observes Hailey watching TV in bed.

December 27, 2010 - AM
- Billie is sleeping/passed out
- Shawn sexually assaults Hailey in her bed.
- Shawn kills Hailey to assure silence.
- Shawn covers Hailey with blanket and leaves room.

December 27, 2010 - AM
- Shawn leaves homel.
- Shawn arrives at work.
- Co-worker picks up Billie.
- Shawn leaves workplace.
- Shawn returns home following Billie's departure.
- Shawn retrieves deceased Hailey from bed.
- Shawn disposes of Hailey's remains.
- Shawn arrives at mother's home in Big Springs.

December 27, 2010 - PM
- Shawn sends text to Mary Beth implicating Hailey as author.
- Shawn returns home
- Shawn picks up Billie from work.
- Shawn tells Billie that Hailey is spending night at Mary Beth.

+++++++

Ockham's Razor

You must never fail to adopt the simplest idea as your working hypothesis. If necessity demands, you can dump it later when you have more dataTamikosmom's Theory


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 20, 2011, 02:56:28 PM
How did SA know before Billie that Hailey was missing before noon??
Wouldn't Billie ask herself that question??? This woman needs to be water boarded IMO


EXACTLY!!

However ... Billie waits until this weekend to distance Shawn through a protective order ... waits until this weekend after investigators revealed to her that threatening words against her were discovered in Shawn's notepad.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cookie on March 20, 2011, 03:05:59 PM
If Billie knows from either dates that Cappy or Janet believe that she knew, and she didn't turn him in and has actually been covering for him,  she needs to be in jail alongside of SA....Justice for Hailey...
I was trying to give Billie the benefit of the doubt in the beginning,but no longer....her actions speak louder than words...She is not acting like a grieving mom missing her daughter when she is still entertaining her daughter's probable killer in her home...jmo


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 20, 2011, 03:31:07 PM
How did SA know before Billie that Hailey was missing before noon??
Wouldn't Billie ask herself that question??? This woman needs to be water boarded IMO


EXACTLY!!

However ... Billie waits until this weekend to distance Shawn through a protective order ... waits until this weekend after investigators revealed to her that threatening words against her were discovered in Shawn's notepad.

Janet


But this isnt the first time she distanced herself from Shawn, not by a long shot.   She has gone back to him each and every time.   I also do not believe for one second that Billie was "in fear" this time over any other time.   She's called 911 out of spite due to an argument but even then expressed not wanting him on her property versus "keep this guy away from me and my children."

Whatever the facts end up being whether she knew during the commission of a crime or after, she still at the very least did NOT cut her ties to Shawn.   I believe there is a reason why Billie didnt well beyond her "love."


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 20, 2011, 03:37:32 PM
Billie Dunn "Not As Hopeful", After Arrest & Affadavit Revealed
By Casey James, KTXS News

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27252190/detail.html

VIDEO IS UP

In my view, she's lying thru her teeth but it does appear now that she is crawling with fear that her lies are catching up to her.

Over two weeks ago Billie implied on BTHN that she was having mixed feelings in regards to Shawn.  Could it be that this was the period in time when she was contemplating throwing Shawn under the bus?  Could it be that that a plea deal has been offered to Billie and ... she is seriously considering this avenue to save her own skin in regarding to the obstruction of an investigation ... in regards to illegal wrongdoings that Shawn may reveal.

Janet

+++++


DOUBTING BILLIE?

Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Billie Jean Dunn: Blog Talk Radio Interview March 2


<snipped>

Host: Are you sure nothing happened in that house between Shawn and Hailey?

Billie Dunn: I’m not 100 percent sure any more. I know nothing was found here, but I’m still not 100 percent sure. A lot of my feelings have changed just since this weekend. I really been standing behind him, and believing he’s the person I always knew he was, but I just have a little bit of doubt now, and you’ve gotta, I don’t know, if there’s some doubt out there, how are you stand behind him?

<snipped>

Host: Do you think Shawn might know where Hailey is?

Billie Dunn: I don’t, I didn’t ever believe that, but I don’t really know. I don’t know anything any more. I hope not. I didn’t see it in him, but maybe there’s a lot of things I didn’t know about him.

<snipped>

Billie Dunn: Because of the computer, and I don’t know who looked at that, and who did not, and until that’s proved to me, I can’t risk believing anything he says. I know they’ll be able to find out who looked at it, whenever dates and times come back.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-transcript-billie-jean-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-2/
 
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/03/bring-them-home-now--exclusive-billy-dunn-speaks-out-maybe-for-the-last-time
 




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 20, 2011, 03:40:55 PM
How did SA know before Billie that Hailey was missing before noon??
Wouldn't Billie ask herself that question??? This woman needs to be water boarded IMO


EXACTLY!!

However ... Billie waits until this weekend to distance Shawn through a protective order ... waits until this weekend after investigators revealed to her that threatening words against her were discovered in Shawn's notepad.

Janet


But this isnt the first time she distanced herself from Shawn, not by a long shot.   She has gone back to him each and every time.   I also do not believe for one second that Billie was "in fear" this time over any other time.   She's called 911 out of spite due to an argument but even then expressed not wanting him on her property versus "keep this guy away from me and my children."

Whatever the facts end up being whether she knew during the commission of a crime or after, she still at the very least did NOT cut her ties to Shawn.   I believe there is a reason why Billie didnt well beyond her "love."

The DEGREE to which Billie has distanced Shawn this time ... tells me that it is not going to be long until answers are forthcoming in the Hailey Dunn case.  Maybe it is just wishful thinking.  Humor me Capps.  I have a rotten cold.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 20, 2011, 03:45:14 PM
http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/

UPDATED (with photos): Mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn admitted she lied to police


    * By Greg Kendall-Ball
    * Abilene Reporter-News
    * Posted March 18, 2011 at 11 a.m., updated March 18, 2011 at 3:13 p.m.

(http://media.reporternews.com/media/img/photos/2011/03/18/0319_loc_AB_DunnMug_t607.JPG)

UPDATE 3:10 p.m.: Billie Jean Dunn admitted this afternoon to lying to police about the whereabouts of her former live-in boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.

After her release from the Mitchell County Jail, Dunn briefly addressed the media outside her home in Colorado City this afternoon.

“He (Adkins) had come over here on his own and I had called his mother to come get him,” Dunn said.

Dunn was asked if she was lying about not knowing what happened to her daughter, Hailey Dunn, who was last seen Dec. 27.

“I am not lying," Dunn said. "Clint (Hailey's father) and I are doing everything we can to look for her (Hailey).”

Dunn's mother posted her bond, allowing her to be released from jail after getting charged with three misdemeanors Thursday evening.
 ::snipping2::


What is noticeably missing in this picture?   Ah, yes Billie is missing an earring!

She now states that Shawn came over & they were arguing but did LE hear that when they arrived at her door?   Could it be they were busy in another private activity altogether that may cause someone to lose an earring?   After all, why else did she get her hair highlighted with extensions & in her version of full makeup if he just showed up to argue with her...things that make you go hmmmm

Did Shawn write threatening messages but not send them to Billie or did Billie write messages in his phone to set him up?   Both had access to the phone, both have been playing games with each other long before harm came to Hailey and continue to do so.   One thing is for certain as heard by anyone that listened to our BTH shows, BOTH of them had a reaction to the thought of each other getting a plea before the other....just saying.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 20, 2011, 03:48:12 PM
How did SA know before Billie that Hailey was missing before noon??
Wouldn't Billie ask herself that question??? This woman needs to be water boarded IMO


EXACTLY!!

However ... Billie waits until this weekend to distance Shawn through a protective order ... waits until this weekend after investigators revealed to her that threatening words against her were discovered in Shawn's notepad.

Janet


But this isnt the first time she distanced herself from Shawn, not by a long shot.   She has gone back to him each and every time.   I also do not believe for one second that Billie was "in fear" this time over any other time.   She's called 911 out of spite due to an argument but even then expressed not wanting him on her property versus "keep this guy away from me and my children."

Whatever the facts end up being whether she knew during the commission of a crime or after, she still at the very least did NOT cut her ties to Shawn.   I believe there is a reason why Billie didnt well beyond her "love."

The DEGREE to which Billie has distanced Shawn this time ... tells me that it is not going to be long until answers are forthcoming in the Hailey Dunn case.  Maybe it is just wishful thinking.  Humor me Capps.  I have a rotten cold.

Janet


She got a "No Trespassing Order" not a "Protective Order," which are a world apart.  She has him not coming onto her property, not an order preventing them from having other contact with each other...to me that is even more telling.   


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 20, 2011, 04:01:51 PM
hey monks, have these affidavits been put up and i missed them

Documents Link More Pornography to Shawn Adkins
http://www.kwes.com/Global/story.asp?S=14280517

snip
The search warrant affidavit was released Friday through a Freedom of Information Act request to a court in Scurry County by KTXS-TV in Abilene and then shared with NewsWest9.

snip
The affidavit confirms earlier reports that child pornography was found at Hailey's mother's house and on a computer at Adkin's mother's house in Big Spring. In fact, the documents say pornography and images of deviant acts has been found on every electronic device connected to Adkins that has been searched by law enforcement.




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 20, 2011, 04:09:24 PM
hey monks, have these affidavits been put up and i missed them

Documents Link More Pornography to Shawn Adkins
http://www.kwes.com/Global/story.asp?S=14280517

snip
The search warrant affidavit was released Friday through a Freedom of Information Act request to a court in Scurry County by KTXS-TV in Abilene and then shared with NewsWest9.

snip
The affidavit confirms earlier reports that child pornography was found at Hailey's mother's house and on a computer at Adkin's mother's house in Big Spring. In fact, the documents say pornography and images of deviant acts has been found on every electronic device connected to Adkins that has been searched by law enforcement.




I believe the actual documents have not been published


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 20, 2011, 04:19:31 PM
A PLEA DEAL

BTHN - Shawn Adkins


Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Shawn Adkins: Blog Talk Radio Interview March 3

<snipped>

Host: What if Billie makes a plea bargain? You know what that is, right?

Shawn Adkins: I have an idea of what it is.

Host: What are you gonna do if she does something like that?

Shawn Adkins: I would just still stand my ground, and say that I’m innocent, which I am.

Host: Would you be upset with her for that?

Shawn Adkins: Yeah, I’d be very upset with her.

Host: Why?

Shawn Adkins: Well, because I believe, in my heart, that she had nothing to do with it, just as well as I did, and, and like I said, I believe that she had nothing to do with it, and if she made a plea bargain, that would be indicating her guilt on it, and I would just totally, that’d totally ruin me to know that she made a plea bargain.

<snipped>

htp://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-transcript-shawn-adkins-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-3/

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/04/bring-them-home-now-exclusive-shawn-adkins-speaks-out


BTHN - Billie Dunn

Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Billie Jean Dunn: Blog Talk Radio Interview March 10


<snipped>

Peter Hyatt: Shawn expressed some concerns… that you would seek a plea deal. Why would Shawn be concerned about that?

Billie Jean Dunn: I don’t know.

Peter Hyatt: He said it would destroy his life.

Billie Jean Dunn: I don’t believe he did. I have no reason to.

Peter Hyatt: You have no reason to what?

Billie Jean Dunn: To accept a plea deal.

Peter Hyatt: Shawn said that if you were to accept a plea deal… that it would destroy him… Why do you think it would destroy his life?

Billie Jean Dunn: I don’t know. I haven’t thought about it, because, like I said, I have no reason to.

Peter Hyatt: No reason to think of it?

Billie Jean Dunn: Right.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-transcript-billie-jean-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-10/
 
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/11/bring-them-home-now-exclusive-shawn-adkins-speaks-colonel-monaco-from-patriot-outreach



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 20, 2011, 04:22:35 PM
A PLEA DEAL

BTHN - Shawn Adkins


Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Shawn Adkins: Blog Talk Radio Interview March 3

<snipped>

Host: What if Billie makes a plea bargain? You know what that is, right?

Shawn Adkins: I have an idea of what it is.

Host: What are you gonna do if she does something like that?

Shawn Adkins: I would just still stand my ground, and say that I’m innocent, which I am.

Host: Would you be upset with her for that?

Shawn Adkins: Yeah, I’d be very upset with her.

Host: Why?

Shawn Adkins: Well, because I believe, in my heart, that she had nothing to do with it, just as well as I did, and, and like I said, I believe that she had nothing to do with it, and if she made a plea bargain, that would be indicating her guilt on it, and I would just totally, that’d totally ruin me to know that she made a plea bargain.

<snipped>

htp://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-transcript-shawn-adkins-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-3/

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/04/bring-them-home-now-exclusive-shawn-adkins-speaks-out


BTHN - Billie Dunn

Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Billie Jean Dunn: Blog Talk Radio Interview March 10


<snipped>

Peter Hyatt: Shawn expressed some concerns… that you would seek a plea deal. Why would Shawn be concerned about that?

Billie Jean Dunn: I don’t know.

Peter Hyatt: He said it would destroy his life.

Billie Jean Dunn: I don’t believe he did. I have no reason to.

Peter Hyatt: You have no reason to what?

Billie Jean Dunn: To accept a plea deal.

Peter Hyatt: Shawn said that if you were to accept a plea deal… that it would destroy him… Why do you think it would destroy his life?

Billie Jean Dunn: I don’t know. I haven’t thought about it, because, like I said, I have no reason to.

Peter Hyatt: No reason to think of it?

Billie Jean Dunn: Right.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-transcript-billie-jean-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-10/
 
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/11/bring-them-home-now-exclusive-shawn-adkins-speaks-colonel-monaco-from-patriot-outreach



Precisely, my point & reading it doesnt give it enough justice knowing what to listen for.   


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 20, 2011, 04:29:44 PM
TY klaas


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 20, 2011, 05:15:31 PM
How did SA know before Billie that Hailey was missing before noon??
Wouldn't Billie ask herself that question??? This woman needs to be water boarded IMO


He didn't know anything she didn't know, or she'd have left him.  She said that to start the bus's wheels rolling just in case.  I suspect she says this stuff in public to remind him that she knows HIS position in all of this.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 20, 2011, 05:20:03 PM

But this isnt the first time she distanced herself from Shawn, not by a long shot.   She has gone back to him each and every time.   I also do not believe for one second that Billie was "in fear" this time over any other time.   She's called 911 out of spite due to an argument but even then expressed not wanting him on her property versus "keep this guy away from me and my children."

Whatever the facts end up being whether she knew during the commission of a crime or after, she still at the very least did NOT cut her ties to Shawn.   I believe there is a reason why Billie didnt well beyond her "love."

Is your crystal ball paging you again, Capp?  Your quotation marks don't go unnoticed.  That's exactly where I would have put them because I don't think love has anything to do with it at this point.  I don't doubt that she probably loved being with him, loved her life and how she was getting to be a kid again because she was dating one, getting back some of the 20's she lost because she had kids and had to be a mom....  But I think once the Hailey thing happened, after the first time she had to pretend she wasn't with him, she realized he was a liability that she got hooked up with and she cannot afford to distance herself from him.  And she won't, until the last possible minute.

I contend that she will not distance herself from him until the point where she has enough on him to throw him under the bus for good - not these little toss and pull back just in time things she has been doing.

I also truly believe that she keeps reminding him, through these little statements, that she knows what he did - and if he gets ideas about throwing her under the bus, she's taking him with her.

That's not love.  As you put it before, that's toxic.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 20, 2011, 05:26:48 PM

The DEGREE to which Billie has distanced Shawn this time ... tells me that it is not going to be long until answers are forthcoming in the Hailey Dunn case.  Maybe it is just wishful thinking.  Humor me Capps.  I have a rotten cold.

Janet


If it's wishful thinking, I'm joining you on the wishing.   But you know, I'm not going to get overly antsy about this yet.  Last time I did, I got more frustrated from being disappointed.  Instead, I'm in this for the long-haul and just going to sit back and be patient and watch everything that goes on until the last deed is done.

In the mean time, did Capp say something once about making a mean bowl of homemade soup?  Or was that someone else?  Maybe she'll send you some. :)  I don't have good homemade soup, but I do have "lovins" and I hear that hugs are therapeutic.  :)  I'll also send you some of this warm Texas sunshine to sit in.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 20, 2011, 05:31:05 PM
::snipping2::

What is noticeably missing in this picture?   Ah, yes Billie is missing an earring!

She now states that Shawn came over & they were arguing but did LE hear that when they arrived at her door?   Could it be they were busy in another private activity altogether that may cause someone to lose an earring?   After all, why else did she get her hair highlighted with extensions & in her version of full makeup if he just showed up to argue with her...things that make you go hmmmm

Did Shawn write threatening messages but not send them to Billie or did Billie write messages in his phone to set him up?   Both had access to the phone, both have been playing games with each other long before harm came to Hailey and continue to do so.   One thing is for certain as heard by anyone that listened to our BTH shows, BOTH of them had a reaction to the thought of each other getting a plea before the other....just saying.

I can't unthink the bold.  I really have been thinking that, and waiting to see if it pans out.  I would love to know if the message was placed there at a time when he was at her house, particularly if it was done early morning when he goes to smoke.  NO one reads their memos to see if something shows up; he would never know until the cops got the phone.  Games, games, games. 

And as for the reactions to mentions of pleas, this is what I think is telling.  SA has considered it, although he doesn't want it to happen, he doesn't ever say he doesn't have to worry about it.  Because he does.  He darn sure does, and I'd bet the ranch that she has put this 'in his head' although not outright.  Billie says -> Shawn does.  And if he doesn't do as she says, she knows how bad the boys in prison will be to Shawn.  It'll "ruin" him.  Note that she doesn't have anything to worry about, because she knows who has the reins.  And it ain't Shawn!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 20, 2011, 05:32:27 PM

She got a "No Trespassing Order" not a "Protective Order," which are a world apart.  She has him not coming onto her property, not an order preventing them from having other contact with each other...to me that is even more telling.   

She has no intentions of quitting him.  She can't afford to let him that far out of her sights just yet.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 20, 2011, 06:13:49 PM

The DEGREE to which Billie has distanced Shawn this time ... tells me that it is not going to be long until answers are forthcoming in the Hailey Dunn case.  Maybe it is just wishful thinking.  Humor me Capps.  I have a rotten cold.

Janet


If it's wishful thinking, I'm joining you on the wishing.   But you know, I'm not going to get overly antsy about this yet.  Last time I did, I got more frustrated from being disappointed.  Instead, I'm in this for the long-haul and just going to sit back and be patient and watch everything that goes on until the last deed is done.

In the mean time, did Capp say something once about making a mean bowl of homemade soup?  Or was that someone else?  Maybe she'll send you some. :)  I don't have good homemade soup, but I do have "lovins" and I hear that hugs are therapeutic.  :)  I'll also send you some of this warm Texas sunshine to sit in.

Thanks starwynn.  Lovins and Hugs?  Just what I need.

 ::MonkeyAngel::

I have taken an over the counter non-drowsy Sudafed capsule.  I don't know what's in it but ... I am feeling pretty good.  All the cobwebs have been cleared.  However ... I am a little concerned ... the expiry date on the box is June, 2009.

Capp ... your corn beef and cabbage soup from the other night would go down good right now.  Any leftovers?  Hubby offered to make some ginger soup ... ginger soup that he swears cures all ailments.  I rolled my eyes and made my self a bowl of Lipton's Chicken Noodle soup. 

Janet 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 20, 2011, 06:14:04 PM

The DEGREE to which Billie has distanced Shawn this time ... tells me that it is not going to be long until answers are forthcoming in the Hailey Dunn case.  Maybe it is just wishful thinking.  Humor me Capps.  I have a rotten cold.

Janet


If it's wishful thinking, I'm joining you on the wishing.   But you know, I'm not going to get overly antsy about this yet.  Last time I did, I got more frustrated from being disappointed.  Instead, I'm in this for the long-haul and just going to sit back and be patient and watch everything that goes on until the last deed is done.

In the mean time, did Capp say something once about making a mean bowl of homemade soup?  Or was that someone else?  Maybe she'll send you some. :)  I don't have good homemade soup, but I do have "lovins" and I hear that hugs are therapeutic.  :)  I'll also send you some of this warm Texas sunshine to sit in.

Speaking of soup (and yea it could have been me on occasion) Im in the process of making a pot of homemade Italian chicken soup this afternoon, Im under the weather as well.   I shall reserve some for you in cyberspace Janet, feel better.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Shell on March 20, 2011, 06:20:53 PM
Capp, this is why I asked. The Freda Radcliff mentioned here was the same one who posted on the bail bond site and Starwynn said "That's you?  LOL  I love your posts!" so I thought it was you.

My bad - I meant "that's you?" =  Paula.  I think even Capp thought I meant Freda, because I stated it so poorly.  /blush

No Freda has been one of the more public HA's, had been on interviews about her, etc.  Bea Whacker is the other more public one, being the one that confronted BD at the dinner.

That Bail Bond company does exist, it is new and the call for bail was made and they were hung up on. Padilla IMHO got involved in CA case for publicity as I am sure a lot of them try to jump in. Freda pops up a lot of places, my curiosity got the best of me.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 20, 2011, 06:25:06 PM

The DEGREE to which Billie has distanced Shawn this time ... tells me that it is not going to be long until answers are forthcoming in the Hailey Dunn case.  Maybe it is just wishful thinking.  Humor me Capps.  I have a rotten cold.

Janet


If it's wishful thinking, I'm joining you on the wishing.   But you know, I'm not going to get overly antsy about this yet.  Last time I did, I got more frustrated from being disappointed.  Instead, I'm in this for the long-haul and just going to sit back and be patient and watch everything that goes on until the last deed is done.

In the mean time, did Capp say something once about making a mean bowl of homemade soup?  Or was that someone else?  Maybe she'll send you some. :)  I don't have good homemade soup, but I do have "lovins" and I hear that hugs are therapeutic.  :)  I'll also send you some of this warm Texas sunshine to sit in.

Speaking of soup (and yea it could have been me on occasion) Im in the process of making a pot of homemade Italian chicken soup this afternoon, Im under the weather as well.   I shall reserve some for you in cyberspace Janet, feel better.

 ::MonkeyAngel::

I hope you are feel better Capp.  There is so much stuff going around.  I think I caught my bug from 13 year old grandson.  Last weekend he went on his first getaway with the youth group from his church and felt rotten the entire time.  He had been so excited about the anticipated venture that he did not sleep for two nights prior to leaving.  Maybe this is why he got sick..

Janet

 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on March 20, 2011, 06:47:32 PM
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Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on March 20, 2011, 07:06:11 PM
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HAILEY DUNN IS STILL MISSING


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 20, 2011, 08:50:14 PM
The other day I email the City Manager Peter Kampfer requesting that he clarify his role with the Hailey Dunn task force.

I received the following response today.

Janet

++++++


Janet,

Mr. Kampfer is the liason person between the task force and the news media. Along with Sheriff Patrick Toombs and Chief John Bivins, he is in the loop as far as what's being released from the task force.

Carol Parsons


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 20, 2011, 09:18:53 PM
The other day I email the City Manager Peter Kampfer requesting that he clarify his role with the Hailey Dunn task force.

I received the following response today.

Janet

++++++


Janet,

Mr. Kampfer is the liason person between the task force and the news media. Along with Sheriff Patrick Toombs and Chief John Bivins, he is in the loop as far as what's being released from the task force.

Carol Parsons


then I guess that task force is releasing nothing, because in the loop he "ain't".


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 20, 2011, 10:24:12 PM
The other day I email the City Manager Peter Kampfer requesting that he clarify his role with the Hailey Dunn task force.

I received the following response today.

Janet

++++++


Janet,

Mr. Kampfer is the liason person between the task force and the news media. Along with Sheriff Patrick Toombs and Chief John Bivins, he is in the loop as far as what's being released from the task force.

Carol Parsons


then I guess that task force is releasing nothing, because in the loop he "ain't".

What, he cant answer for himself?   Who is she & why didnt she include her job title?  So now its along with others?  HIS DUTIES involve the small CC police dept & he is the Colorado City assigned liason person BUT he has no authority over other LE agencies, none.   I know for a fact his statements along with Toombs has NOT matched or were a minimization of what was released by LE, which makes it more than obvious there is an issue going behind the scenes.  Trust me, he wouldnt get what the loop is if it was served up to him in a bowl of cereal!  Flippin Fruit Loop!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: melisb on March 20, 2011, 10:39:54 PM
http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/ UPDATED (with photos): Mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn admitted she liedto police     * By Greg Kendall-Ball     * Abilene Reporter-News     * Posted March 18, 2011 at 11 a.m., updated March 18, 2011 at 3:13 p.m. (http://media.reporternews.com/media/img/photos/2011/03/18/0319_loc_AB_DunnMug_t607.JPG) UPDATE 3:10 p.m.: Billie Jean Dunn admitted this afternoonto lyingto police about the whereabouts of her former live-in boyfriend, Shawn Adkins. After her release from the Mitchell County Jail, Dunn briefly addressed the media outside her home in Colorado City this afternoon. “He (Adkins) had come over hereon his own and I had called his motherto come get him,” Dunn said. Dunn was asked if she was lying about not knowing what happenedto her daughter, Hailey Dunn, who was last seen Dec. 27. “I am not lying," Dunn said. "Clint (Hailey's father) and I are doing everything we canto look for her (Hailey).” Dunn's mother posted her bond, allowing herto be released from jail after getting charged with three misdemeanors Thursday evening. ::snipping2::
What is noticeably missing in this picture?   Ah, yes Billie is missing an earring! She now states that Shawn came over & they were arguing but did LE hear that when they arrived at her door?   Could it be they were busy in another private activity altogether that may cause someoneto lose an earring?   After all, why else did she get her hair highlighted with extensions & in her version of full makeup if he just showed upto argue with her...things that make you go hmmmm Did Shawn write threatening messages but not send themto Billie or did Billie write messages in his phoneto set him up?   Both had accessto the phone, both have been playing games with each other long before harm cameto Hailey and continueto do so.   One thing is for certain as heard by anyone that listenedto our BTH shows, BOTH of them had a reactionto the thought of each other getting a plea before the other....just saying.


I think she's gonna say she lied to LE looking for SA at her house beacause he threatened her and that's what he said to do. It even sounded after findin out about threatening "memos unsent" in his cell.  Also, isn't she double/triple/whatever pierced in her ears and that is the one above the normal placing?  Anyhoo, she's dressed down and getting a mugshot...all belongings should have been removed and secured with the booking officer.    Kinda lax in that small town probably!  Ever noticed that she is so vain that she sweeps all her hair to hang on one shoulder like a little teeny bopper?  She maketh me sicketh!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 20, 2011, 10:41:04 PM
It would appear that Sheriff Toombs was more informed than the District Attorney who Peter Hyatt spoke to on March 14th.

Janet

+++++++

CHILD PORN - BILLIE'S HOME - CONFIRMED

February 24th - Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs

‘Deviant acts,' porn found on digital evidence seized in Hailey Dunn case
Updated Thursday, February 24, 2011


<snipped>

A memory stick confiscated from a dresser in the master bedroom of the Dunn residence in Colorado City was found to contain "320 images and videos of a pornographic nature."

Both the computer and the memory stick contain images depicting bestiality and child pornography, said Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs.

<snipped>

http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/feb/24/deviant-images-found-computer-mother-suspect-case/


February 25th - Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs

Child Pornography Found In Hailey Dunn Home
POSTED: 1:15 pm CST February 25, 2011
UPDATED: 10:44 pm CST February 25, 2011


SWEETWATER, Texas -- A digital memory stick containing images of child pornography was discovered in Billie Dunn and Shawn Adkins’ bedroom as law enforcement searched for evidence pertaining to the disappearance of Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn, according to Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26998644/detail.html


CHILD PORN - BILLIE'S HOME - DENIED

March 13th - District Attorney

Show Name: The Peter Hyatt Show


Date / Length: 13/03/2011 4:30 PM - 46 min

10:30

Peter Hyatt:  District Attorney informed me that there was no child porn on the memory stick found in the home of Billie. (Paraphrased)

 http://www.blogtalkradio.com/peter-hyatt/2011/03/13/the-peter-hyatt-show


CHILD PORN - BILLIE'S HOME - CONFIRMED

Affidavit - March 18th

KTXS EXCLUSIVE: Affidavit Shows More Child Porn In Hailey Dunn CaseBy George POSTED: 12:36 pm CDT March 18, 2011
UPDATED: 6:45 pm CDT March 18, 2011


<snipped>

The affidavit confirms earlier reports by KTXS that child pornography was found on a computer at the home of Adkins' mother, where Adkins had access to the computer, and on a memory stick in the home of Hailey Dunn in Colorado City.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 20, 2011, 11:06:40 PM
It would appear that Sheriff Toombs was more informed than the District Attorney who Peter Hyatt spoke to on March 14th.

Janet

+++++++

CHILD PORN - BILLIE'S HOME - CONFIRMED

February 24th - Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs

‘Deviant acts,' porn found on digital evidence seized in Hailey Dunn case
Updated Thursday, February 24, 2011


<snipped>

A memory stick confiscated from a dresser in the master bedroom of the Dunn residence in Colorado City was found to contain "320 images and videos of a pornographic nature."

Both the computer and the memory stick contain images depicting bestiality and child pornography, said Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs.

<snipped>

http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/feb/24/deviant-images-found-computer-mother-suspect-case/


February 25th - Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs

Child Pornography Found In Hailey Dunn Home
POSTED: 1:15 pm CST February 25, 2011
UPDATED: 10:44 pm CST February 25, 2011


SWEETWATER, Texas -- A digital memory stick containing images of child pornography was discovered in Billie Dunn and Shawn Adkins’ bedroom as law enforcement searched for evidence pertaining to the disappearance of Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn, according to Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26998644/detail.html


CHILD PORN - BILLIE'S HOME - DENIED

March 13th - District Attorney

Show Name: The Peter Hyatt Show


Date / Length: 13/03/2011 4:30 PM - 46 min

10:30

Peter Hyatt:  District Attorney informed me that there was no child porn on the memory stick found in the home of Billie. (Paraphrased)

 http://www.blogtalkradio.com/peter-hyatt/2011/03/13/the-peter-hyatt-show


CHILD PORN - BILLIE'S HOME - CONFIRMED

Affidavit - March 18th

KTXS EXCLUSIVE: Affidavit Shows More Child Porn In Hailey Dunn CaseBy George POSTED: 12:36 pm CDT March 18, 2011
UPDATED: 6:45 pm CDT March 18, 2011


<snipped>

The affidavit confirms earlier reports by KTXS that child pornography was found on a computer at the home of Adkins' mother, where Adkins had access to the computer, and on a memory stick in the home of Hailey Dunn in Colorado City.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html

Janet, I can assure you that the DA and their office knows EVERYTHING above any and all & that would include Peter Hyatt's minimal second hand contact in this case.   The DA's office will receive all the evidence, will bring the charge & prosecute the case.    It will make sense to everyone down the road.   I cannot comment further on that at this time.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 20, 2011, 11:10:09 PM
Upcoming Show: 23/03/2011 5:00 PM

The Bring Them Home Now EXCLUSIVE RICHY COOPER /DUNN CASE ....


http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/23/the-bring-them-home-now-exclusive-richy-cooper-and-missing-billy-disilvestro-serial-killer-on-the-lo

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IslandMonkey
Re: Hailey Dunn #8 2/25/11 -
« Reply #477 on: February 28, 2011, 01:42:49 AM »


No clue whether this is rumor or not.......just reposting:

Richy Cooper, Hailey's Uncle just posted this on FB

Richy Cooper
Ok, Know that I speak only for myself and that this is just my opinion and should involve no one but myself. I believe that Shawn raped and killed Hailey in the middle of the night and then told Billie what had happened, that's when they co...ncocted their story. I think he dismembered her the next morning in the 2 hours he had in ccity and then took her to a hidden location to dispose of her. I don't think we'll find her. I am writing this, barely able to see through my tears as I hate the thoughts I have about what has happened to this precious neice of mine. Fred I'm so sorry! I personally think that for pedophiles, child pornographers, beast lovers and the like, that prison is too good for them. I believe that they should all be placed into a room together in groups of 20 and given a single dull knife and then told when there is only one, we'll feed you. Do that each day till they're all gone. Then maybe the next "Hailey" will get to have her life and love and children of her own.

http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=2638812607171373610

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9448.msg1308545#msg1308545


 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 20, 2011, 11:22:15 PM
It would appear that Sheriff Toombs was more in the loop than the District Attorney who Peter Hyatt spoke to on March 14th.

Janet

+++++++

CHILD PORN - MEMORY DISK - CONFIRMED

February 24th - Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs

‘Deviant acts,' porn found on digital evidence seized in Hailey Dunn case
Updated Thursday, February 24, 2011


<snipped>

A memory stick confiscated from a dresser in the master bedroom of the Dunn residence in Colorado City was found to contain "320 images and videos of a pornographic nature."

Both the computer and the memory stick contain images depicting bestiality and child pornography, said Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs.

<snipped>

http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/feb/24/deviant-images-found-computer-mother-suspect-case/


February 25th - Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs

Child Pornography Found In Hailey Dunn Home
POSTED: 1:15 pm CST February 25, 2011
UPDATED: 10:44 pm CST February 25, 2011


SWEETWATER, Texas -- A digital memory stick containing images of child pornography was discovered in Billie Dunn and Shawn Adkins’ bedroom as law enforcement searched for evidence pertaining to the disappearance of Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn, according to Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26998644/detail.html


CHILD PORN - MEMORY DISK - DENIED

March 13th - District Attorney

Show Name: The Peter Hyatt Show


Date / Length: 13/03/2011 4:30 PM - 46 min

10:30

Peter Hyatt:  District Attorney informed me that there was no child porn on the memory stick found in the home of Billie. (Paraphrased)

 http://www.blogtalkradio.com/peter-hyatt/2011/03/13/the-peter-hyatt-show


CHILD PORN - MEMORY DISK - CONFIRMED

Affidavit - March 18th

KTXS EXCLUSIVE: Affidavit Shows More Child Porn In Hailey Dunn CaseBy George POSTED: 12:36 pm CDT March 18, 2011
UPDATED: 6:45 pm CDT March 18, 2011


<snipped>

The affidavit confirms earlier reports by KTXS that child pornography was found on a computer at the home of Adkins' mother, where Adkins had access to the computer, and on a memory stick in the home of Hailey Dunn in Colorado City.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html

Janet, I can assure you that the DA and their office knows EVERYTHING above any and all & that would include Peter Hyatt's minimal second hand contact in this case.   The DA's office will receive all the evidence, will bring the charge & prosecute the case.    It will make sense to everyone down the road.   I cannot comment further on that at this time.

Capp

Was there or ... was there not child porn on the memory disk.  Sheriff Toombs ... a confirmed spokesperson for the task force ... claims "Yes".  The alleged words within the affidavit read "Yes".  However ... the District Attorney claims "No".

Which is it?

::MonkeyConfused::

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 20, 2011, 11:48:21 PM
Documents Link More Pornography to Shawn Adkins
http://www.kwes.com/Global/story.asp?S=14280517

snip
The search warrant affidavit was released Friday through a Freedom of Information Act request to a court in Scurry County by KTXS-TV in Abilene and then shared with NewsWest9.

snip
The affidavit confirms earlier reports that child pornography was found at Hailey's
mother's house
and on a computer at Adkin's mother's house in Big Spring. In fact, the documents say pornography and images of deviant acts has been found on every electronic device connected to Adkins that has been searched by law enforcement.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2011, 12:01:25 AM
Documents Link More Pornography to Shawn Adkins
http://www.kwes.com/Global/story.asp?S=14280517

snip
The search warrant affidavit was released Friday through a Freedom of Information Act request to a court in Scurry County by KTXS-TV in Abilene and then shared with NewsWest9.

snip
The affidavit confirms earlier reports that child pornography was found at Hailey's
mother's house
and on a computer at Adkin's mother's house in Big Spring. In fact, the documents say pornography and images of deviant acts has been found on every electronic device connected to Adkins that has been searched by law enforcement.

Why has Shawn Adkins not been arrested and charged accordingly?  When will the next grand jury convene?

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 12:31:28 AM
Documents Link More Pornography to Shawn Adkins
http://www.kwes.com/Global/story.asp?S=14280517

snip
The search warrant affidavit was released Friday through a Freedom of Information Act request to a court in Scurry County by KTXS-TV in Abilene and then shared with NewsWest9.

snip
The affidavit confirms earlier reports that child pornography was found at Hailey's
mother's house
and on a computer at Adkin's mother's house in Big Spring. In fact, the documents say pornography and images of deviant acts has been found on every electronic device connected to Adkins that has been searched by law enforcement.

Why has Shawn Adkins not been arrested and charged accordingly?  When will the next grand jury convene?

Janet

Janet, when the affidavit's are made public we'll be able to see more but it is now being reported that yes it was on the memory stick at Billie's home.  What I can reiterate is that the DA's office definitely knows what the evidence is for reasons I stated in an earlier post.  Yes, there has been some confusion in statements being made in this case unfortunately & trust me I'm no different than anyone else being frustrated over it.   Apparently, a few are even attacking me elsewhere if they disagree with my association, but hey I've got my big girl panties on &  I dont lose sleep over it.

The CP and bestiality case is a daunting one, considering the enormity of evidence.  I wish I could provide an answer as to when but I cannot say definitively.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: melisb on March 21, 2011, 12:38:53 AM
Documents Link More Pornographyto Shawn Adkins http://www.kwes.com/Global/story.asp?S=14280517 snip The search warrant affidavit was released Friday through a Freedom of Information Act requestto a court in Scurry County by KTXS-TV in Abilene and then shared with NewsWest9. snip The affidavit confirms earlier reports that child pornography was found at Hailey's mother's house andon a computer at Adkin's mother's house in Big Spring. In fact, the documents say pornography and images of deviant acts has been foundon every electronic device connectedto Adkins that has been searched by law enforcement.
Why has Shawn Adkins not been arrested and charged accordingly?  When will the next grand jury convene? Janet

Janet, good evening and I'm gonna attempt an answer but it prolly will be wrong but I think that even though they were in posession of the mem stick LE now has to prove who actually downloaded the images to it and the same with the computer.  I think they just wanna make sure they have all their ducks in a row.  It sometimes takes a long time to get these pervs charged and then convicted.  Lots has to be verified.  Unless things have changed, I saw an MSNBC doc about this very thing and if the child in the pic can't be identifed then a doc or someone well versed in that area has to verify that that IS a child in the pic, then forensic IT peeps have to have their ducks in a row, dates, see of they can pin down who was on computer, etc..  It takes a while.  I bet they were hoping that there was some identifiable mark, strange schmekle characteristic that placed him in one of those comprimising positions that would nail him to the wall. Remember what we have been told over and over...once a creep has been arrested (even if not for the crime we are posting about)the clock start ticking and even thought we all suspect he/she is guilty we don't want to jeopardize anything pertaining to the case for Hailey that might end up reversable one day.  When they arrest them I want it to be for good and no getting out on technicalities!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 12:40:51 AM
Upcoming Show: 23/03/2011 5:00 PM

The Bring Them Home Now EXCLUSIVE RICHY COOPER /DUNN CASE ....


http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/23/the-bring-them-home-now-exclusive-richy-cooper-and-missing-billy-disilvestro-serial-killer-on-the-lo

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IslandMonkey
Re: Hailey Dunn #8 2/25/11 -
« Reply #477 on: February 28, 2011, 01:42:49 AM »


No clue whether this is rumor or not.......just reposting:

Richy Cooper, Hailey's Uncle just posted this on FB

Richy Cooper
Ok, Know that I speak only for myself and that this is just my opinion and should involve no one but myself. I believe that Shawn raped and killed Hailey in the middle of the night and then told Billie what had happened, that's when they co...ncocted their story. I think he dismembered her the next morning in the 2 hours he had in ccity and then took her to a hidden location to dispose of her. I don't think we'll find her. I am writing this, barely able to see through my tears as I hate the thoughts I have about what has happened to this precious neice of mine. Fred I'm so sorry! I personally think that for pedophiles, child pornographers, beast lovers and the like, that prison is too good for them. I believe that they should all be placed into a room together in groups of 20 and given a single dull knife and then told when there is only one, we'll feed you. Do that each day till they're all gone. Then maybe the next "Hailey" will get to have her life and love and children of her own.

http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=2638812607171373610

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9448.msg1308545#msg1308545



yes, this will be the upcoming show:

The Bring Them Home Now EXCLUSIVE RICHY COOPER /DUNN CASE Missing Billy DiSilvestro SERIAL KILLER?

Richy Cooper Hailey Dunn's uncle will speak out on Hailley's disapearance on Dec. 27th 2010. Richy Cooper will give new inforamtion and a different perpective into what has happened to Hailey! More than 100 people met at Sutherland Park in Butler County Saturday afternoon to search for a missing Hamilton man. Billy DiSilvestro, 28, has been missing since February 7, 2011.Billy's mom, Debbie Estes, has also been tirelessly looking for her son, hanging up posters throughout Hamilton. She says she wants everyone to know what her son looks like"I want his face plastered all over Cincinnati, Dayton, Indiana, Illinois," said Estes.Her main concern is that Billy has a history of seizures and hasn't taken his medication for weeks."He wouldn't have stayed gone this long, he would have had somebody come after him," said Estes.Debbie said Billy's grandmother dropped him off at a friend's apartment the night of February 7. For some reason, Billy left the apartment, leaving his cell phone. He hasn't been seen since."He left between 3 a.m. and 6 a.m. as far as I can figure out from people telling me, and nobody has seen nothing or heard from him," said Estes.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/23/the-bring-them-home-now-exclusive-richy-cooper-and-missing-billy-disilvestro-serial-killer-on-the-lo

Billy DiSilvestro is one of 4 persons missing in that immediate area over a few several months.

That was Richy's (Hailey's Uncle) opinion he posted on his FB In Feb


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2011, 12:41:24 AM
Janet, when the affidavit's are made public we'll be able to see more but it is now being reported that yes it was on the memory stick at Billie's home.  What I can reiterate is that the DA's office definitely knows what the evidence is for reasons I stated in an earlier post.  Yes, there has been some confusion in statements being made in this case unfortunately & trust me I'm no different than anyone else being frustrated over it.   Apparently, a few are even attacking me elsewhere if they disagree with my association, but hey I've got my big girl panties on &  I dont lose sleep over it.
The CP and bestiality case is a daunting one, considering the enormity of evidence.  I wish I could provide an answer as to when but I cannot say definitively.

Capp

What association?

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 12:53:06 AM
Janet, when the affidavit's are made public we'll be able to see more but it is now being reported that yes it was on the memory stick at Billie's home.  What I can reiterate is that the DA's office definitely knows what the evidence is for reasons I stated in an earlier post.  Yes, there has been some confusion in statements being made in this case unfortunately & trust me I'm no different than anyone else being frustrated over it.   Apparently, a few are even attacking me elsewhere if they disagree with my association, but hey I've got my big girl panties on &  I dont lose sleep over it.
The CP and bestiality case is a daunting one, considering the enormity of evidence.  I wish I could provide an answer as to when but I cannot say definitively.

Capp

What association?

Janet

My work with BTH


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2011, 12:56:21 AM
Documents Link More Pornographyto Shawn Adkins http://www.kwes.com/Global/story.asp?S=14280517 snip The search warrant affidavit was released Friday through a Freedom of Information Act requestto a court in Scurry County by KTXS-TV in Abilene and then shared with NewsWest9. snip The affidavit confirms earlier reports that child pornography was found at Hailey's mother's house andon a computer at Adkin's mother's house in Big Spring. In fact, the documents say pornography and images of deviant acts has been foundon every electronic device connectedto Adkins that has been searched by law enforcement.
Why has Shawn Adkins not been arrested and charged accordingly?  When will the next grand jury convene? Janet

Janet, good evening and I'm gonna attempt an answer but it prolly will be wrong but I think that even though they were in posession of the mem stick LE now has to prove who actually downloaded the images to it and the same with the computer.  I think they just wanna make sure they have all their ducks in a row.  It sometimes takes a long time to get these pervs charged and then convicted.  Lots has to be verified.  Unless things have changed, I saw an MSNBC doc about this very thing and if the child in the pic can't be identifed then a doc or someone well versed in that area has to verify that that IS a child in the pic, then forensic IT peeps have to have their ducks in a row, dates, see of they can pin down who was on computer, etc..  It takes a while.  I bet they were hoping that there was some identifiable mark, strange schmekle characteristic that placed him in one of those comprimising positions that would nail him to the wall. Remember what we have been told over and over...once a creep has been arrested (even if not for the crime we are posting about)the clock start ticking and even thought we all suspect he/she is guilty we don't want to jeopardize anything pertaining to the case for Hailey that might end up reversable one day.  When they arrest them I want it to be for good and no getting out on technicalities!

Thanks Capps.

Sometime I get so frustrated with this case.  Time marches on and Hailey Dunn is still missing.  Many red flags are waving on the main suspect in the case but ... Shawn's legal rights appear to surpass the God-given right that was afforded to this little girl ... the God-given right to life.

I'm off.  Medication that will allow me some sleep while I fight this cold is beginning to kick in

Good Night All

Janet
9:55 PM PT


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 01:09:34 AM
Documents Link More Pornographyto Shawn Adkins http://www.kwes.com/Global/story.asp?S=14280517 snip The search warrant affidavit was released Friday through a Freedom of Information Act requestto a court in Scurry County by KTXS-TV in Abilene and then shared with NewsWest9. snip The affidavit confirms earlier reports that child pornography was found at Hailey's mother's house andon a computer at Adkin's mother's house in Big Spring. In fact, the documents say pornography and images of deviant acts has been foundon every electronic device connectedto Adkins that has been searched by law enforcement.
Why has Shawn Adkins not been arrested and charged accordingly?  When will the next grand jury convene? Janet

Janet, good evening and I'm gonna attempt an answer but it prolly will be wrong but I think that even though they were in posession of the mem stick LE now has to prove who actually downloaded the images to it and the same with the computer.  I think they just wanna make sure they have all their ducks in a row.  It sometimes takes a long time to get these pervs charged and then convicted.  Lots has to be verified.  Unless things have changed, I saw an MSNBC doc about this very thing and if the child in the pic can't be identifed then a doc or someone well versed in that area has to verify that that IS a child in the pic, then forensic IT peeps have to have their ducks in a row, dates, see of they can pin down who was on computer, etc..  It takes a while.  I bet they were hoping that there was some identifiable mark, strange schmekle characteristic that placed him in one of those comprimising positions that would nail him to the wall. Remember what we have been told over and over...once a creep has been arrested (even if not for the crime we are posting about)the clock start ticking and even thought we all suspect he/she is guilty we don't want to jeopardize anything pertaining to the case for Hailey that might end up reversable one day.  When they arrest them I want it to be for good and no getting out on technicalities!

Thanks Capps.

Sometime I get so frustrated with this case.  Time marches on and Hailey Dunn is still missing.  Many red flags are waving on the main suspect in the case but ... Shawn's legal rights appear to surpass the God-given right that was afforded to this little girl ... the God-given right to life.

I'm off.  Medication that will allow me some sleep while I fight this cold is beginning to kick in

Good Night All

Janet
9:55 PM PT

Your welcome Janet.   I know its frustrating that we have not gotten the answers as to what indeed happened to Hailey or that the responsible party(ies) are not in jail awaiting trial already, hang in there as best you can & feel better.   Im heading to la la land shortly myself.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2011, 01:09:46 AM
Janet, when the affidavit's are made public we'll be able to see more but it is now being reported that yes it was on the memory stick at Billie's home.  What I can reiterate is that the DA's office definitely knows what the evidence is for reasons I stated in an earlier post.  Yes, there has been some confusion in statements being made in this case unfortunately & trust me I'm no different than anyone else being frustrated over it.   Apparently, a few are even attacking me elsewhere if they disagree with my association, but hey I've got my big girl panties on &  I dont lose sleep over it.
The CP and bestiality case is a daunting one, considering the enormity of evidence.  I wish I could provide an answer as to when but I cannot say definitively.

Capp

What association?

Janet

My work with BTH

Only trolls would object to your participation with those whose only objective is to find the missing and give support to families.

Capp ... don't discourage.  Stay focused on the goal ... Truth and Justice for Hailey Dunn!

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 01:25:43 AM
Janet, when the affidavit's are made public we'll be able to see more but it is now being reported that yes it was on the memory stick at Billie's home.  What I can reiterate is that the DA's office definitely knows what the evidence is for reasons I stated in an earlier post.  Yes, there has been some confusion in statements being made in this case unfortunately & trust me I'm no different than anyone else being frustrated over it.   Apparently, a few are even attacking me elsewhere if they disagree with my association, but hey I've got my big girl panties on &  I dont lose sleep over it.
The CP and bestiality case is a daunting one, considering the enormity of evidence.  I wish I could provide an answer as to when but I cannot say definitively.

Capp

What association?

Janet

My work with BTH

Only trolls would object to your participation with those whose only objective is to find the missing and give support to families.

Capp ... don't discourage.  Stay focused on the goal ... Truth and Justice for Hailey Dunn!

Janet

I certainly will for Hailey and heartbreakingly other innocent victims.   Hailey's case is one of so many that has affected so many of us deeply.  I know everyone has so many questions, even some directed at how a question was asked or an expression was made but what is important to keep in mind is that strategy & diligence will win the day.  People will pick on anything or anyone when their goal is merely to disrupt or dispute a difference of opinion immaturely, personally that will not deter me whatsoever.   

I agree truth and justice for Hailey Dunn  ::MonkeyAngel::

Thank you so much Janet, you are indeed a very special lady!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 21, 2011, 01:46:17 AM
Upcoming Show: 23/03/2011 5:00 PM

The Bring Them Home Now EXCLUSIVE RICHY COOPER /DUNN CASE ....


http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/23/the-bring-them-home-now-exclusive-richy-cooper-and-missing-billy-disilvestro-serial-killer-on-the-lo

+++++++


IslandMonkey
Re: Hailey Dunn #8 2/25/11 -
« Reply #477 on: February 28, 2011, 01:42:49 AM »


No clue whether this is rumor or not.......just reposting:

Richy Cooper, Hailey's Uncle just posted this on FB

Richy Cooper
Ok, Know that I speak only for myself and that this is just my opinion and should involve no one but myself.  ::snipping2:: (CONTINUES)
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=2638812607171373610

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9448.msg1308545#msg1308545
 

He actually took this statement off, and it wasn't supposed to be publicly announced.  I know it was on facebook, but because it was copied/pasted off of a private page and then he removed it quickly, I try  not to repost it out of courtesy.  Particularly because I respect what he said.  Just a heads-up in case people didn't know he retracted it and the circumstances surrounding


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: melisb on March 21, 2011, 07:35:38 AM
Hey, I was gonna ask if my words stick together like Cappy's and Starwyn's does that make me smart like them but then I came to my pea brain senses!

Why are some of our words sticking together?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: melisb on March 21, 2011, 07:37:02 AM
Hey, I was gonna ask if my words sticktogether like Cappy's and Starwyn's does that make me smart like them but then I cameto my pea brain senses! Why are some of our words stickingtogether?



Anywhere there is a TO after a word it sticks together, cool!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 21, 2011, 10:44:57 AM
Searchers Question Billie Dunn's Decision to Cut Ties with Adkins

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353606


 ::snipping2::
Many are questioning missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn's mother's decision to cut off contact with her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.

Billie Dunn filed a no-trespassing order against Adkins, the only named suspect regarding her daughter's disappearance, on Friday after spending the night in jail.

Dunn was arrested Thursday when police came to her home to carry out a search warrant on him and she lied and said he wasn't there.

Hope for Hailey volunteer Stephanie Boyd said she's wary about the timing of Dunn's decision to cut ties with her boyfriend.

"Why, almost three months after your 13-year-old daughter goes missing? Why not do it that first day," Boyd questioned on Sunday.

Dunn said Adkins can't be on her property for a year under the order. She said she filed it after investigators told her about threats they found in his phone.


 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Thunder_Sis on March 21, 2011, 11:03:57 AM
The above interview from bigcountryhomepage.com concerns me but due to different reasons than most people.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2011, 11:06:15 AM

He actually took this statement off, and it wasn't supposed to be publicly announced.  I know it was on facebook, but because it was copied/pasted off of a private page and then he removed it quickly, I try  not to repost it out of courtesy.  Particularly because I respect what he said.  Just a heads-up in case people didn't know he retracted it and the circumstances surrounding.


starwynn

I did not realize Richy Cooper's comment on Facebook had been removed.

Richy may have thought better of posting his heartfelt sentiments ... heartfelt sentiments that conform to a great extent with those expressed by his MIL and wife in their BTHN interview.

I don't do Facebook.  Could it be that many of the original Facebook comments copied and pasted to the SM form and then quoted have been removed by authors.

Nevertheless ... Richy Cooper's March 23rd BTHN interview will reveal whether or not his position in his Facebook comment regarding his theory encompassing the disappearance of his niece has changed.

Janet

 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 21, 2011, 11:10:05 AM
The above interview from bigcountryhomepage.com concerns me but due to different reasons than most people.  ::MonkeyMad::

Are you willing to elaborate?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Thunder_Sis on March 21, 2011, 11:30:11 AM
Privately yes, which is what I wanted to discuss with klaas. Publicly, I don't feel like I can right now. Too many ppl read this forum that aren't members.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Innocent/154709951254680

Clinton Dunn
thank yall for this page. billie needs support too.
26 minutes ago

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Thunder_Sis on March 21, 2011, 11:37:08 AM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353726

 ::snipping2::
The items included Adkins’ cell phone, a USB memory stick he owned, a computer belonging to Christina Walker, Adkins’ mother, and a second computer located in Renee Norwood’s home in Dunn.
::snipping2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2011, 11:58:22 AM
Stephanie Boyd words reflect my sentiments regarding both Billie and Clint.  Considering Clint had read the same affidavit that I read ... his February 23rd words "I think Shawn is innocent" stunned me.

Janet

+++++


Searchers Question Billie Dunn's Decision to Cut Ties with Adkins
Sunday, March 20 2011

<snipped>

Hope for Hailey volunteer Stephanie Boyd said she's wary about the timing of Dunn's decision to cut ties with her boyfriend.

"Why, almost three months after your 13-year-old daughter goes missing? Why not do it that first day," Boyd questioned on Sunday.

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353606




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2011, 12:00:57 PM
Privately yes, which is what I wanted to discuss with klaas. Publicly, I don't feel like I can right now. Too many ppl read this forum that aren't members.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Innocent/154709951254680

Clinton Dunn
thank yall for this page. billie needs support too.
26 minutes ago

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Boston Lady on March 21, 2011, 12:07:46 PM
Privately yes, which is what I wanted to discuss with klaas. Publicly, I don't feel like I can right now. Too many ppl read this forum that aren't members.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Innocent/154709951254680

Clinton Dunn
thank yall for this page. billie needs support too.
26 minutes ago

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Why does Clint feel Billie needs support?   Did he not see she was arrested for lying to police about Shawn??   Did he not read nor hear that Billie & Shawn are the only POI's??   Did he not hear Billie saying that she failed the polygraph, specifically on questions about Hailey's location and her own involvement in Hailey's disappearance?


 ::MonkeyEek::      ::MonkeyNoNo::     ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cookie on March 21, 2011, 12:17:16 PM
Privately yes, which is what I wanted to discuss with klaas. Publicly, I don't feel like I can right now. Too many ppl read this forum that aren't members.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Innocent/154709951254680

Clinton Dunn
thank yall for this page. billie needs support too.
26 minutes ago

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Why does Clint feel Billie needs support?   Did he not see she was arrested for lying to police about Shawn??   Did he not read nor hear that Billie & Shawn are the only POI's??   Did he not hear Billie saying that she failed the polygraph, specifically on questions about Hailey's location and her own involvement in Hailey's disappearance?


 ::MonkeyEek::      ::MonkeyNoNo::     ::MonkeyMad::

 ::rhino::  does not make sense to me at all..


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 21, 2011, 12:34:40 PM
Privately yes, which is what I wanted to discuss with klaas. Publicly, I don't feel like I can right now. Too many ppl read this forum that aren't members.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Innocent/154709951254680

Clinton Dunn
thank yall for this page. billie needs support too.
26 minutes ago

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Not to be a nay-sayer, but who knows if it is really Clint writing that post? 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Boston Lady on March 21, 2011, 12:38:17 PM
Privately yes, which is what I wanted to discuss with klaas. Publicly, I don't feel like I can right now. Too many ppl read this forum that aren't members.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Innocent/154709951254680

Clinton Dunn
thank yall for this page. billie needs support too.
26 minutes ago

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Not to be a nay-sayer, but who knows if it is really Clint writing that post? 




Agree, it could be someone who has access to  his page.   But, that is his official FB page so I tend to think it's him.   


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 21, 2011, 12:49:01 PM
Privately yes, which is what I wanted to discuss with klaas. Publicly, I don't feel like I can right now. Too many ppl read this forum that aren't members.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Innocent/154709951254680

Clinton Dunn
thank yall for this page. billie needs support too.
26 minutes ago

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Not to be a nay-sayer, but who knows if it is really Clint writing that post? 




Agree, it could be someone who has access to  his page.   But, that is his official FB page so I tend to think it's him.   

It appears to be Clint.  IMO, neither Billie or Clint have lead an exemplary life and it's possible Billie has something on Clint.  Could be lots of reasons he's defending her.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2011, 12:54:14 PM
Privately yes, which is what I wanted to discuss with klaas. Publicly, I don't feel like I can right now. Too many ppl read this forum that aren't members.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Innocent/154709951254680

Clinton Dunn
thank yall for this page. billie needs support too.
26 minutes ago

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Not to be a nay-sayer, but who knows if it is really Clint writing that post? 

Agree, it could be someone who has access to  his page.   But, that is his official FB page so I tend to think it's him.   

Clint has disregarded the words within the revealed affidavits from the getgo ... the words that imply that both Shawn and Billie were not forthcoming to investigators in regards to the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Hailey.

Janet

++++++


Clint Dunn Says He Thinks Billie Wouldn't Hurt Their Daughter
POSTED: 1:49 pm CST January 12, 2011
UPDATED: 2:18 pm CST January 12, 2011


COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Hailey Dunn’s father said Wednesday that he doesn’t believe his estranged wife Billie Dunn would have hurt their daughter.

Clint Dunn responded to questions after a KTXS News story Tuesday night that provided details of law enforcement findings in affidavits that were used to secure search warrants in the case.

The affidavits revealed a list of inconsistencies in statements from Billie Dunn and her former live-in boyfriend Shawn Adkins. The affidavits also detailed failed polygraph tests by both of them and a sordid reading list of articles about murder and other other topics.

Clint Dunn, however, said he’s known Billie Dunn for 20 years, and he said he doesn’t think she would hurt their child.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26469659/detail.html


Missing Teen's Father Believes Only Named Suspect Is Innocent
POSTED: 6:23 pm CST February 23, 2011
UPDATED: 8:23 pm CST February 23, 2011


<snipped>

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- The missing Colorado City teen's father speaks out Wednesday on the only named suspect in his daughter's case, Shawn Adkins.

Clint Dunn told KTXS he doesn't believe Adkins is involved in his daughters disappearance, "I want Shawn to get out and help. That's how he will prove his innocence and I think he is innocent."

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26972918/detail.html




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 01:02:17 PM
Privately yes, which is what I wanted to discuss with klaas. Publicly, I don't feel like I can right now. Too many ppl read this forum that aren't members.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Innocent/154709951254680

Clinton Dunn
thank yall for this page. billie needs support too.
26 minutes ago

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Why does Clint feel Billie needs support?   Did he not see she was arrested for lying to police about Shawn??   Did he not read nor hear that Billie & Shawn are the only POI's??   Did he not hear Billie saying that she failed the polygraph, specifically on questions about Hailey's location and her own involvement in Hailey's disappearance?


 ::MonkeyEek::      ::MonkeyNoNo::     ::MonkeyMad::

 ::rhino::  does not make sense to me at all..

Me either not at all....Im making a call because something doesnt make any sense whatsoever


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2011, 01:07:20 PM
Privately yes, which is what I wanted to discuss with klaas. Publicly, I don't feel like I can right now. Too many ppl read this forum that aren't members.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Innocent/154709951254680

Clinton Dunn
thank yall for this page. billie needs support too.
26 minutes ago

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Not to be a nay-sayer, but who knows if it is really Clint writing that post?  

Agree, it could be someone who has access to  his page.   But, that is his official FB page so I tend to think it's him.    

It appears to be Clint.  IMO, neither Billie or Clint have lead an exemplary life and it's possible Billie has something on Clint.  Could be lots of reasons he's defending her.

Could it be that the past distancing of Shawn in the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Hailey by both Clint and Billie indicate that all three are beholding to each other in regards to aspects of their respective/mutual lifestyles ... in regards to illegal wrongdoing that may or may not have nothing to do with the Hailey Dunn case?

Janet
Edit to fix post, per Janet.  MB
+++++


Titch
Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 -
« Reply #514 on: February 08, 2011, 06:49:52 PM »

<snipped>

I read on Peter's blog (comments section) that the reason Clint didn't call in for the second phone interview (when Dr Glass was on) was because Billie's mom posted on Facebook that if Clint airs Billie's dirty laundry, then they'll do the same.

<snipped>

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9372.msg1302063#msg1302063


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2011, 01:12:32 PM
SELF EDIT - MY LAST POST

in regards to illegal wrongdoing that have nothing to do with the Hailey Dunn case?

s/b

in regards to illegal wrongdoing that may or may not have nothing to do with the Hailey Dunn case?

Fixed.  MB



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 01:14:36 PM
Take this as rumor right now
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905

Michael Shannon Butler
Just got a call that there about about 20 DPS troopers stopped on I20 between Colorado City and Sweetwater... Appears they are searching for something... Hmmmm.. Can we hope that they found her?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 01:19:58 PM
AND THE WHEELS ON THE BUS GO ROUND AND ROUND....

Sheriff: Dunn and Adkins Met Up Over Weekend


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756

Just a few days after the mother of Hailey Dunn claimed to have cut off ties with her former boyfriend and the only named suspect in her daughter's disappearance, law enforcement says the pair met in Scurry County over the weekend.
Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs says his investigators have learned Billie Dunn and Shawn Adkins met up in Snyder on Saturday evening.

On Friday, Dunn revealed she filed a protective order that would keep Adkins off her property. Toombs confirmed the filing took place but says this hasn't kept the pair from meeting elsewhere.

In response to Sheriff Toombs comments, Billie Dunn told KRBC's Jessica Reyes the accusations were not true. She says she and Adkins haven't seen each other since her arrest on Thursday.


MY NOTE:    It is not considered a protective order if it only prevents someone from being on a property...that is indeed a No Trespassing Order.

We knew she lied about a lie....who is she kidding!    If she was seen due to surveillance she would be best just to admit she got snagged   IMHO it wont be long now


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 01:20:41 PM
AND THE WHEELS ON THE BUS GO ROUND AND ROUND....

Sheriff: Dunn and Adkins Met Up Over Weekend


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756

Just a few days after the mother of Hailey Dunn claimed to have cut off ties with her former boyfriend and the only named suspect in her daughter's disappearance, law enforcement says the pair met in Scurry County over the weekend.
Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs says his investigators have learned Billie Dunn and Shawn Adkins met up in Snyder on Saturday evening.

On Friday, Dunn revealed she filed a protective order that would keep Adkins off her property. Toombs confirmed the filing took place but says this hasn't kept the pair from meeting elsewhere.

In response to Sheriff Toombs comments, Billie Dunn told KRBC's Jessica Reyes the accusations were not true. She says she and Adkins haven't seen each other since her arrest on Thursday.

 ::snipping2::
MY NOTE:    It is not considered a protective order if it only prevents someone from being on a property...that is indeed a No Trespassing Order.

We knew she lied about a lie....who is she kidding!    If she was seen due to surveillance she would be best just to admit she got snagged   IMHO it wont be long now

DOUBLE POST to put the snip in


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2011, 01:36:09 PM
AND THE WHEELS ON THE BUS GO ROUND AND ROUND....

Sheriff: Dunn and Adkins Met Up Over Weekend


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756

Just a few days after the mother of Hailey Dunn claimed to have cut off ties with her former boyfriend and the only named suspect in her daughter's disappearance, law enforcement says the pair met in Scurry County over the weekend.
Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs says his investigators have learned Billie Dunn and Shawn Adkins met up in Snyder on Saturday evening.

 ::snipping2::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::








Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 01:37:40 PM
Affidavits: Adkins Search Warrants Linked to Child Porn


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353726

The search warrant affidavit signed by 132nd District Judge Ernie Armstrong in connection with the search of the home of Shawn Adkins’ grandmother revealed nothing into the disappearance of a missing Colorado City teenager.
Adkins is the only named suspect in the Hailey Dunn disappearance and the affidavit only notes the teen once. During the course of the disappearance, law enforcement discovered “obscene, sexually deviant and/or pornographic images stores” on several electronic devices.

The items included Adkins’ cell phone, a USB memory stick he owned, a computer belonging to Christina Walker, Adkins’ mother, and a second computer located in Renee Norwood’s home in Dunn.

“While I was in the house at 30 County Road 4132 in Dunn, Texas, I saw two other computers in the house, six cameras including two Kodak Easy Share cameras, an SD memory card and a memory stick,” stated J. Bruce Flournoy with the Garza County sheriff’s office and also is a forensic computer examiner. Flournoy — who is among the officers working with the multi-agency task force searching for the teen — turned in the document to Armstrong, which were signed on March 16.
 ::snipping2::
“She just refused to tell officers that Adkins was in her house and lied to them,” said Toombs. Officers who had a search warrant for Adkins tried to find him Thursday in Big Spring where they last knew he was living, but he was not there, Toombs said.

Officers later found Adkins at Dunn’s residence where he was searched, but not arrested.

Officers arrested Dunn after she denied that Adkins was there and also found the drugs while searching her house, Toombs said.

Dunn was released from jail Friday after posting $6,500 bail. She had declined to have an attorney appointed. The sheriff said Dunn and Adkins have been seeing each other on and off for the past few weeks.

No arrests were made Friday. “We’re hoping there’ll be arrests down the road,” said Toombs, adding that tips continue to come in. “We are still searching on the leads that we get.” He also said Dunn has not been named as a person of interest. But, “her arrest yesterday does not help her cause.”

Toombs said as many as 15 officers continue to work the case, the puzzle pieces of which have come together “slower than we would have hoped.” Investigators hang onto hope and “hate” to think Hailey may be found dead, Toombs said.

“We try not to think about that but that is a possibility.”


WTH   She absolutely is, dont know why hes saying otherwise.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2011, 01:54:43 PM
Privately yes, which is what I wanted to discuss with klaas. Publicly, I don't feel like I can right now. Too many ppl read this forum that aren't members.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Innocent/154709951254680

Clinton Dunn
thank yall for this page. billie needs support too.
26 minutes ago

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


UPDATED (with photos): Mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn admitted she lied to police
By Greg Kendall-Ball
Updated Friday, March 18, 2011


UPDATE 3:10 p.m.: Billie Jean Dunn admitted this afternoon to lying to police about the whereabouts of her former live-in boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.

After her release from the Mitchell County Jail, Dunn briefly addressed the media outside her home in Colorado City this afternoon.

“He (Adkins) had come over here on his own and I had called his mother to come get him,” Dunn said.

Dunn was asked if she was lying about not knowing what happened to her daughter, Hailey Dunn, who was last seen Dec. 27.

“I am not lying," Dunn said. "Clint (Hailey's father) and I are doing everything we can to look for her (Hailey).”

http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 21, 2011, 01:56:30 PM
Affidavits: Adkins Search Warrants Linked to Child Porn


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353726

The search warrant affidavit signed by 132nd District Judge Ernie Armstrong in connection with the search of the home of Shawn Adkins’ grandmother revealed nothing into the disappearance of a missing Colorado City teenager.
Adkins is the only named suspect in the Hailey Dunn disappearance and the affidavit only notes the teen once. During the course of the disappearance, law enforcement discovered “obscene, sexually deviant and/or pornographic images stores” on several electronic devices.

The items included Adkins’ cell phone, a USB memory stick he owned, a computer belonging to Christina Walker, Adkins’ mother, and a second computer located in Renee Norwood’s home in Dunn.

“While I was in the house at 30 County Road 4132 in Dunn, Texas, I saw two other computers in the house, six cameras including two Kodak Easy Share cameras, an SD memory card and a memory stick,” stated J. Bruce Flournoy with the Garza County sheriff’s office and also is a forensic computer examiner. Flournoy — who is among the officers working with the multi-agency task force searching for the teen — turned in the document to Armstrong, which were signed on March 16.
 ::snipping2::
“She just refused to tell officers that Adkins was in her house and lied to them,” said Toombs. Officers who had a search warrant for Adkins tried to find him Thursday in Big Spring where they last knew he was living, but he was not there, Toombs said.

Officers later found Adkins at Dunn’s residence where he was searched, but not arrested.

Officers arrested Dunn after she denied that Adkins was there and also found the drugs while searching her house, Toombs said.

Dunn was released from jail Friday after posting $6,500 bail. She had declined to have an attorney appointed. The sheriff said Dunn and Adkins have been seeing each other on and off for the past few weeks.

No arrests were made Friday. “We’re hoping there’ll be arrests down the road,” said Toombs, adding that tips continue to come in. “We are still searching on the leads that we get.” He also said Dunn has not been named as a person of interest. But, “her arrest yesterday does not help her cause.”

Toombs said as many as 15 officers continue to work the case, the puzzle pieces of which have come together “slower than we would have hoped.” Investigators hang onto hope and “hate” to think Hailey may be found dead, Toombs said.

“We try not to think about that but that is a possibility.”


WTH   She absolutely is, dont know why hes saying otherwise.

Okay...I'm starting to get dizzy...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: FishstickKitty on March 21, 2011, 02:08:10 PM
Seriously this is all so confusing. It makes my head hurt.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2011, 02:09:46 PM
iS OR IS NOT BILLIE DUNN A PERSON OF INTEREST?

Sheriff Toombs

Affidavits: Adkins Search Warrants Linked to Child Porn
Monday, March 21 2011


<snipped>

No arrests were made Friday. “We’re hoping there’ll be arrests down the road,” said Toombs, adding that tips continue to come in. “We are still searching on the leads that we get.” He also said Dunn has not been named as a person of interest. But, “her arrest yesterday does not help her cause.”

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353726


Law Enforcement

Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Billie Jean Dunn: Blog Talk Radio Interview March 10


<snipped>

Host (Rachel): Well, on that note, because, we, you know, we have been instructed not to have Billie Jean nor Shawn Adkins on our show by law enforcement. They, at this time, according to law enforcement, I’m going to read this verbatim… We have found out that Billie and Shawn are the only two persons of interest, as of today, in Hailey Dunn’s disappearance.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-transcript-billie-jean-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-10/
 
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/11/bring-them-home-now-exclusive-shawn-adkins-speaks-colonel-monaco-from-patriot-outreach






Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 21, 2011, 02:13:42 PM
AND THE WHEELS ON THE BUS GO ROUND AND ROUND....

Sheriff: Dunn and Adkins Met Up Over Weekend


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756

Just a few days after the mother of Hailey Dunn claimed to have cut off ties with her former boyfriend and the only named suspect in her daughter's disappearance, law enforcement says the pair met in Scurry County over the weekend.
Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs says his investigators have learned Billie Dunn and Shawn Adkins met up in Snyder on Saturday evening.

 ::snipping2::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::









WOOOOW!  Those threatening messages in SA's phone must have REALLY scared her.  ::MonkeyTongue::

My latest vision of her is her stomping her feet and yelling, "I'm NOT lying THIS time, I promise!!!"  WhatEVER.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 21, 2011, 02:18:10 PM
Hahaha...I just had to bump a post I made a couple days ago because it is SO ironic.  The script is so repetitive!!!


ITA  This is just like their little 'He said he's gonna hurt me' incident with all those 911 calls last year.  It's like their twisted little relationship 'feeds' off of this.  They wanna kill each other, have each other arrested, and then have to 'sneak' to see each other again...like they get a 'high' off of it.  'I'm gonna kill you!!!', 'I'm calling the PD!', 'She's a nut.  I love her so much.', 'Psssttt...wanna sneak in tonight?' 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 21, 2011, 03:04:18 PM

http://www.facebook.com/krbctv

KRBC TV
‎Jessica Reyes: Billie Dunn tells me she has hired an attorney and is no longer speaking to the media


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: seahorse on March 21, 2011, 03:05:04 PM
Hat tip to Need2no Post #138

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?376003-Links-Only-TIME-LINE-1-24-no-discussion-please./page4


 ::MonkeyEek::


Protective Orders and TROs are Not the Same

In Texas, protective orders are different from temporary restraining orders, or TROs. Only protective orders are criminally enforceable. This means that if a person subject to a protective order violates the terms of the order, he or she can be arrested and may face jail time for violating the order. For example, if the alleged abuser shows up at the victim's house late at night, the victim can call the police and have the abuser arrested for violating the order.

Temporary restraining orders, on the other hand, are only enforceable by a judge. TROs are typically filed in cases where the parties already have a lawsuit pending, like in a divorce, in order to protect property and the parties involved in the case. For example, TROs generally are automatically issued in divorce cases to prevent one spouse from destroying or selling property owned jointly or by the other spouse. TROs also can order one party not to harm, threaten or harass the other party or their children.

In general, protective orders offer greater protection to victims of domestic violence than restraining orders. An individual can file for both types of orders. In some cases, however, a person may not qualify for a protective order, but will qualify for a restraining order. For example, those who fear they may be harmed by a loved one but have not yet been harmed or threatened
 ::snipping2::

http://knowledgebase.findlaw.com/kb/2010/Feb/59166.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2011, 03:20:18 PM
Sometime I get so frustrated with this case.  Time marches on and Hailey Dunn is still missing.  Many red flags are waving in the direction of the main suspect in the case and the one who is covering for him but ... Shawn and Billie's legal rights appear to surpass the God-given right that was afforded to this little girl ... the God-given right to life.

I am giving the task force investigating the Hailey Dunn case the benefit of the doubt that behind the scenes the dots are being connected and ... at least one arrest is forthcoming.

Papa and I are taking our now 13 year old grandson out for lunch and ... then selecting a birthday gift of his choice is where it is at.  We get the drift.  Apparently ... our taste in clothing and music for this young man doesn't cut it any more.

Later, Janet
12:15 PM PT
 



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2011, 03:25:54 PM

http://www.facebook.com/krbctv

KRBC TV
‎Jessica Reyes: Billie Dunn tells me she has hired an attorney and is no longer speaking to the media


Thanks wildmala

Could it be that Shawn's attorney is representing them both?  Was this what the little rendezvous in Snyder was all about?

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Boston Lady on March 21, 2011, 03:27:37 PM
Billie Dunn is a little too late hiring an attorney.   She has already admitted she lied to the police on camera.   No taking that one back.   She has incriminated herself so many times changing the time line of Hailey's disappearance along with changing what happened too.


I don't think a lawyer is going to be able to do much for her now.   And if she is anything like Shawn, she wont' listen anyway !   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 03:29:04 PM

http://www.facebook.com/krbctv

KRBC TV
‎Jessica Reyes: Billie Dunn tells me she has hired an attorney and is no longer speaking to the media


Thanks wildmala

Could it be that Shawn's attorney is representing them both?  Was this what the little rendezvous in Snyder was all about?

Janet


Conflict of interest, there is no way he would be able to maintain representing them both.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 03:30:01 PM
Hat tip to Need2no Post #138

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?376003-Links-Only-TIME-LINE-1-24-no-discussion-please./page4


 ::MonkeyEek::


Protective Orders and TROs are Not the Same

In Texas, protective orders are different from temporary restraining orders, or TROs. Only protective orders are criminally enforceable. This means that if a person subject to a protective order violates the terms of the order, he or she can be arrested and may face jail time for violating the order. For example, if the alleged abuser shows up at the victim's house late at night, the victim can call the police and have the abuser arrested for violating the order.

Temporary restraining orders, on the other hand, are only enforceable by a judge. TROs are typically filed in cases where the parties already have a lawsuit pending, like in a divorce, in order to protect property and the parties involved in the case. For example, TROs generally are automatically issued in divorce cases to prevent one spouse from destroying or selling property owned jointly or by the other spouse. TROs also can order one party not to harm, threaten or harass the other party or their children.

In general, protective orders offer greater protection to victims of domestic violence than restraining orders. An individual can file for both types of orders. In some cases, however, a person may not qualify for a protective order, but will qualify for a restraining order. For example, those who fear they may be harmed by a loved one but have not yet been harmed or threatened
 ::snipping2::

http://knowledgebase.findlaw.com/kb/2010/Feb/59166.html


Yes, but neither have anything to do with a No Trespass Order.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Sister on March 21, 2011, 03:32:45 PM
Privately yes, which is what I wanted to discuss with klaas. Publicly, I don't feel like I can right now. Too many ppl read this forum that aren't members.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Innocent/154709951254680

Clinton Dunn
thank yall for this page. billie needs support too.
26 minutes ago

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::
Sometimes you can catch more flies (in this case POS) with honey . . . for all we know, he is being advised to act nice in hopes in keeps them off balance (not that they have exhibited any balance whatsoever).


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 03:34:01 PM
Hailey's Mother Hires Attorney, No Longer Speaking to Media
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756

Monday, 2:15 p.m. Update:
According to the Snyder Daily News, an entry on the blotter at the Scurry County Law Enforcement Center Sunday afternoon stated a woman called and asked to speak to an officer on the telephone in reference to both Dunn and Adkins being together at the caller’s residence looking for someone.
The officer responding stated there was not a vehicle at the location and no contact was made.

Monday, 2 p.m. Update:
Billie Dunn tells KRBC's Jessica Reyes she has hired an attorney and is no longer able to speak with the media.

Dunn was scheduled to do an interview with Reyes at 3 p.m Monday and canceled.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Sister on March 21, 2011, 03:37:29 PM
Hailey's Mother Hires Attorney, No Longer Speaking to Media
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756

Monday, 2:15 p.m. Update:
According to the Snyder Daily News, an entry on the blotter at the Scurry County Law Enforcement Center Sunday afternoon stated a woman called and asked to speak to an officer on the telephone in reference to both Dunn and Adkins being together at the caller’s residence looking for someone.
The officer responding stated there was not a vehicle at the location and no contact was made.

Monday, 2 p.m. Update:
Billie Dunn tells KRBC's Jessica Reyes she has hired an attorney and is no longer able to speak with the media.

Dunn was scheduled to do an interview with Reyes at 3 p.m Monday and canceled.
 ::snipping2::
That's like closing the coup door afer the chicken are out.
 :smt117


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 03:38:44 PM
Privately yes, which is what I wanted to discuss with klaas. Publicly, I don't feel like I can right now. Too many ppl read this forum that aren't members.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Innocent/154709951254680

Clinton Dunn
thank yall for this page. billie needs support too.
26 minutes ago

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::
Sometimes you can catch more flies (in this case POS) with honey . . . for all we know, he is being advised to act nice in hopes in keeps them off balance (not that they have exhibited any balance whatsoever).

That may be, or something else.   Im trying to get confirmed if he actually made that statement or someone helping running his page.   OMG, this case is so convoluted its got me  ::MonkeyEek:: and  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 21, 2011, 03:38:54 PM
Hailey's Mother Hires Attorney, No Longer Speaking to Media
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756

Monday, 2:15 p.m. Update:
According to the Snyder Daily News, an entry on the blotter at the Scurry County Law Enforcement Center Sunday afternoon stated a woman called and asked to speak to an officer on the telephone in reference to both Dunn and Adkins being together at the caller’s residence looking for someone.
The officer responding stated there was not a vehicle at the location and no contact was made.

Monday, 2 p.m. Update:
Billie Dunn tells KRBC's Jessica Reyes she has hired an attorney and is no longer able to speak with the media.

Dunn was scheduled to do an interview with Reyes at 3 p.m Monday and canceled.
 ::snipping2::

Wonder who they were looking for??



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 03:40:26 PM
Hailey's Mother Hires Attorney, No Longer Speaking to Media
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756

Monday, 2:15 p.m. Update:
According to the Snyder Daily News, an entry on the blotter at the Scurry County Law Enforcement Center Sunday afternoon stated a woman called and asked to speak to an officer on the telephone in reference to both Dunn and Adkins being together at the caller’s residence looking for someone.
The officer responding stated there was not a vehicle at the location and no contact was made.

Monday, 2 p.m. Update:
Billie Dunn tells KRBC's Jessica Reyes she has hired an attorney and is no longer able to speak with the media.

Dunn was scheduled to do an interview with Reyes at 3 p.m Monday and canceled.
 ::snipping2::
That's like closing the coup door afer the chicken are out.
 :smt117

Yet below in the earlier reported account in BCHP Toombs is quoted as saying they found out they were together....good God this is just too ridiculous for words!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Boston Lady on March 21, 2011, 04:18:53 PM
Hailey's Mother Hires Attorney, No Longer Speaking to Media
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756

Monday, 2:15 p.m. Update:
According to the Snyder Daily News, an entry on the blotter at the Scurry County Law Enforcement Center Sunday afternoon stated a woman called and asked to speak to an officer on the telephone in reference to both Dunn and Adkins being together at the caller’s residence looking for someone.
The officer responding stated there was not a vehicle at the location and no contact was made.

Monday, 2 p.m. Update:



Perhaps their drug connection?
Billie Dunn tells KRBC's Jessica Reyes she has hired an attorney and is no longer able to speak with the media.

Dunn was scheduled to do an interview with Reyes at 3 p.m Monday and canceled.
 ::snipping2::

Wonder who they were looking for??




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Boston Lady on March 21, 2011, 04:20:48 PM
Grrr.. Sorry, I typed in my reply into the paragraph above.   If a manager wants to delete, please feel free.    ::MonkeyMad::

My reply to "Wondering who they were looking for?" was  Perhaps their drug connection?    ::rhino::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 21, 2011, 04:49:29 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756
Hailey's Mother Hires Attorney, No Longer Speaking to Media
Monday, 2:15 p.m. Update:

snip
Monday, 2 p.m. Update:
Billie Dunn tells KRBC's Jessica Reyes she has hired an attorney and is no longer able to speak with the media.

Dunn was scheduled to do an interview with Reyes at 3 p.m Monday and canceled.
----------

another one of BD fabricated realities to get out of another interview, watch
BD will mess it up and talk to another media source
i so wish that is true, BD lawyered up, then that could mean LE is closing in
and ready to spring their trap on BD and SA 



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 21, 2011, 04:49:52 PM
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905

MKAshworth Just spoke to Billie Dunn's lawyer--Abilene's John Young, hear details about her case on KTAB tonight!
12 minutes ago via web






Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 21, 2011, 04:58:35 PM
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905

MKAshworth Just spoke to Billie Dunn's lawyer--Abilene's John Young, hear details about her case on KTAB tonight!
12 minutes ago via web



Here is a more direct link to that, sorry:  http://twitter.com/MKAshworth


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 21, 2011, 05:23:26 PM
 i think this is BD lawyer

 The Law Offices of John S. Young, P.C. is a Law Firm serving Abilene, Texas
Address105 East Third Street, P.O. Box 868
Sweetwater, Texas 79556-0868 (Nolan Co.)

Criminal Defense Specialists. Board Certified in Criminal Law. State & Federal Litigation.
 Free Initial Consultation Accepts Credit Cards
View Main Office Profile

Statement of Practice
Criminal Defense, primarily in felony matters. State and Federal Criminal Litigation.

http://www.lawyers.com/Texas/Abilene/The-Law-Offices-of-John-S.-Young,-P.C.-4822004-f.html
contact info
http://www.lawyers.com/Texas/Abilene/The-Law-Offices-of-John-S.-Young,-P.C.-4822004-f.html

web site of John S. Young
http://www.jsylaw.com/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 21, 2011, 05:58:40 PM
note date of interview... January 18 2011

Attorney Says Adkins Smart For Getting "Lawyered Up" video
Reported by: Bigcountryhomepage.com Staff Reports
Tuesday, January 18 2011
snip
Noted Abilene defense attorney John Young
 tells KTAB News that Shawn Adkins did the right thing by hiring a lawyer now that he's been named a suspect in the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332256


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 21, 2011, 06:17:12 PM
John Young is a respected lawyer in that area of Texas.
He is a criminal defense lawyer who specializes in murder trials.

Billie Jean didn't hire him to defend her misdemeanor charges that
resulted from her arrest on Friday.  She sees the writing on the wall.  IMO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on March 21, 2011, 06:17:16 PM
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905

MKAshworth Just spoke to Billie Dunn's lawyer--Abilene's John Young, hear details about her case on KTAB tonight!
12 minutes ago via web



Here is a more direct link to that, sorry:  http://twitter.com/MKAshworth

Intersting he is DEATH PENALTY qualified........

http://www.jsylaw.com/MeetJohnYoung.htm


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on March 21, 2011, 06:18:00 PM
John Young is a respected lawyer in that area of Texas.
He is a criminal defense lawyer who specializes in murder trials.

Billie Jean didn't hire him to defend her misdemeanor charges that
resulted from her arrest on Friday.  She sees the writing on the wall.  IMO

 ::MonkeyTongue:: Reading my mind Magnolia........ITA ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 06:24:11 PM
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905

MKAshworth Just spoke to Billie Dunn's lawyer--Abilene's John Young, hear details about her case on KTAB tonight!
12 minutes ago via web



Here is a more direct link to that, sorry:  http://twitter.com/MKAshworth

Intersting he is DEATH PENALTY qualified........

http://www.jsylaw.com/MeetJohnYoung.htm

Isnt it though!    I agree she didnt hire him for misdemeanor charges even though he may address those she obviously knows she's in much hotter water than that.   

Last I knew Shawn's attorney is Sidney Lyle of Odessa, unless that changed.   To confirm that in publication this older article will suffice http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332986


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2011, 06:32:31 PM

I can see it now.

If not today ... then tomorrow or ... the next day ... a high profile defence attorney will come galloping in on a white horse.  Then the talk show circuit with the major networks will be where it is at.  Maybe book and/or movie deals.  Unchallenged platforms will be provided to Billie ... unchallenged platforms to further her agenda of protecting Shawn from implication in the disappearance of her daughter.  In other words ... the truth in regards to what Billie knows will remain forever elusive.  IMO
 
I hope I am wrong.

Janet


BUMPED


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on March 21, 2011, 06:33:37 PM
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905

MKAshworth Just spoke to Billie Dunn's lawyer--Abilene's John Young, hear details about her case on KTAB tonight!
12 minutes ago via web



Here is a more direct link to that, sorry:  http://twitter.com/MKAshworth

Intersting he is DEATH PENALTY qualified........

http://www.jsylaw.com/MeetJohnYoung.htm

Isnt it though!    I agree she didnt hire him for misdemeanor charges even though he may address those she obviously knows she's in much hotter water than that.   

Last I knew Shawn's attorney is Sidney Lyle of Odessa, unless that changed.   To confirm that in publication this older article will suffice http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332986

She knows the chit if getting ready to hit the fan ......can't happen fast enough for me. I better go check out the Snyder Daily News ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2011, 06:35:22 PM
Hailey's Mother Hires Attorney, No Longer Speaking to Media
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756

Monday, 2:15 p.m. Update:
According to the Snyder Daily News, an entry on the blotter at the Scurry County Law Enforcement Center Sunday afternoon stated a woman called and asked to speak to an officer on the telephone in reference to both Dunn and Adkins being together at the caller’s residence looking for someone.
The officer responding stated there was not a vehicle at the location and no contact was made.

Monday, 2 p.m. Update:
Billie Dunn tells KRBC's Jessica Reyes she has hired an attorney and is no longer able to speak with the media.

Dunn was scheduled to do an interview with Reyes at 3 p.m Monday and canceled.
 ::snipping2::

Thanks Capp

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 06:36:49 PM

I can see it now.

If not today ... then tomorrow or ... the next day ... a high profile defence attorney will come galloping in on a white horse.  Then the talk show circuit with the major networks will be where it is at.  Maybe book and/or movie deals.  Unchallenged platforms will be provided to Billie ... unchallenged platforms to further her agenda of protecting Shawn from implication in the disappearance of her daughter.  In other words ... the truth in regards to what Billie knows will remain forever elusive.  IMO
 
I hope I am wrong.

Janet


BUMPED

Well she cant afford this guy so Im guessing he had to take it pro bono & I'll wait to hear that confirmed.  There is no doubt in my mind that ideas of "blood money" are on quite a few individuals minds...I cant help but be cynical after seeing it over and over.

However, I'm also wondering if Billie's meeting with Shawn Sat night is more what prompted Billie to get this attorney.   She had the opportunity to get a court appointed public defender by the judge for her misdemeanor charges, she declined to contact an attorney or have one appointed to her.   Could it be that Shawn already started talking?  or Could it be that Billie is about to?

One thing is for certain the hot water is now at a boiling point for both of them.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2011, 06:53:58 PM
It appears that on January 19th ... Shawn had yet to inform his attorney that he had made a quick stop at his grandma's house in Dunn following his sudden departure from his workplace ... prior to driving to Big Bridge.

Janet

++++++

Shawn Atkin's Attorney - Damage Control

Adkins' Lawyer: Phone Records Could Be Incorrect
POSTED: 2:43 pm CST January 19, 2011
UPDATED: 3:09 pm CST January 19, 2011


COLORADO CITY, Texas -- The lawyer representing the only named suspect in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn, Shawn Adkins, says that phone records placing Adkins in the vicinity of the Dunn residence early on Dec. 27, when he told authorities he was somewhere else, could be incorrect.

Fort Worth-based attorney Sidney Lyle told KTXS News on Wednesday that, in his own experience, phone records can show use in one area when the phone user was in a different location.

"Personally," Lyle said, "I've been in El Paso and had my phone records show I was in Mexico when I wasn't anywhere close to there."

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26543967/detail.html


Affidavit

Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 2:17 pm CST January 12, 2011


<snipped>

One inconsistency in Adkins’ statements involved his employment on Dec. 27. Adkins told investigators that he was fired that day, but authorities contacted the employer, who said that Adkins was a good employee and that he hadn’t been fired.

Nevertheless, Adkins left his place of employment at 6:10 a.m. on the morning of Dec. 27 and told investigators that he went straight to his mother’s house in Big Spring. However, cell phone records indicate that Adkins’ cell phone was in contact with cell towers in the Colorado City area from 6:35 a.m. until 6:56 a.m., during the time when he said he was traveling to Big Spring.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


Shawn Adkins - Damage Control

Shawn Adkins Interview on KTAB, February 7, 2011: Transcription


<snipped>

REPORTER: So also, according to the affidavits, you had originally said that when you quit your job, you went straight to Big Springs, but then there were cell phone actual pings in Colorado City.

SHAWN ADKINS: Well, that, the investigators asked me. They never asked which specific places I went. They go, “Where did you go Monday, when Hailey supposedly disappeared?”, and I told them I went to Big Spring, and that’s where I was at.

<snipped>

REPORTER: ... he affidavits show that stories have changed. I mean, what do you say about that? Has your story changed at all?

SHAWN ADKINS: If it has, it was because I remembered something, and then I let the investigators know, but that’s how they say my story has changed, then that’s how it changed, ’cause there’s been some things that I didn’t remember to tell them at the time, but later I did remember, and then I told them. That’s how my story could have changed, but no, my story hasn’t changed, other than that.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-shawn-adkins-interview-feb-7-transcription/


Billie Dunn - Damage Control

Billie Jean Dunn Blog Talk Radio Interview February 7, 2011: Partially transcribed


<snipped>

Take me through you timeine.

<snipped>

So around six o’clock Shawn got to work. He left right away. He had been thinking about quitting his job, and he left that day, left his coveralls there, cleaned out his locker.
 
He went over to his grandma’s house in Dunn, which is about ten miles coming back toward Colorado city. They didn’t answer, so he went over to Big Spring, to his mother’s house.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/billie-jean-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-february-7-transcription/

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/08/exclusive-live--billie-dunn-speaks-1




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 06:54:32 PM
Mother Of Missing Teen Now Represented By Legal Council
By Jacqueline Hince, KTXS News
POSTED: 4:34 pm CDT March 21, 2011
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27268142/detail.html

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- KTXS has confirmed that Billie Dunn, the mother of Hailey Dunn, has hired an attorney.
John Young, an attorney out of Sweetwater, will now represent her.
Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs tell us that Dunn told him she is no longer talking to either media, or law enforcement about anything, including her daughter's case.
 ::snipping2::
Toombs tell us, that one of his sources saw the two Saturday night meeting in Snyder.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2011, 06:59:49 PM

I can see it now.

If not today ... then tomorrow or ... the next day ... a high profile defence attorney will come galloping in on a white horse.  Then the talk show circuit with the major networks will be where it is at.  Maybe book and/or movie deals.  Unchallenged platforms will be provided to Billie ... unchallenged platforms to further her agenda of protecting Shawn from implication in the disappearance of her daughter.  In other words ... the truth in regards to what Billie knows will remain forever elusive.  IMO
 
I hope I am wrong.

Janet


BUMPED

Well she cant afford this guy so Im guessing he had to take it pro bono & I'll wait to hear that confirmed.  There is no doubt in my mind that ideas of "blood money" are on quite a few individuals minds...I cant help but be cynical after seeing it over and over.

However, I'm also wondering if Billie's meeting with Shawn Sat night is more what prompted Billie to get this attorney.   She had the opportunity to get a court appointed public defender by the judge for her misdemeanor charges, she declined to contact an attorney or have one appointed to her.   Could it be that Shawn already started talking?  or Could it be that Billie is about to?

One thing is for certain the hot water is now at a boiling point for both of them.

 ::rhino::

Maybe Shawn is about to accept a plea deal for a confession ... a plea deal that will take the death penalty off the table.  Maybe implicating Billy illegal wrongdoing whether or not that wrongdoing is connected to the disappearance of her daughter.

Capp ... I think that truths are about to be revealed in the Hailey Dunn case.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2011, 07:01:01 PM
Mother Of Missing Teen Now Represented By Legal Council
By Jacqueline Hince, KTXS News
POSTED: 4:34 pm CDT March 21, 2011
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27268142/detail.html

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- KTXS has confirmed that Billie Dunn, the mother of Hailey Dunn, has hired an attorney.
John Young, an attorney out of Sweetwater, will now represent her.
Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs tell us that Dunn told him she is no longer talking to either media, or law enforcement about anything, including her daughter's case.
 ::snipping2::
Toombs tell us, that one of his sources saw the two Saturday night meeting in Snyder.
 ::snipping2::

There HAS to be a connection.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2011, 07:02:47 PM
Thanks to all for the updates this afternoon.

I am off again.

Janet
4:00 PM PT


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 07:03:23 PM

I can see it now.

If not today ... then tomorrow or ... the next day ... a high profile defence attorney will come galloping in on a white horse.  Then the talk show circuit with the major networks will be where it is at.  Maybe book and/or movie deals.  Unchallenged platforms will be provided to Billie ... unchallenged platforms to further her agenda of protecting Shawn from implication in the disappearance of her daughter.  In other words ... the truth in regards to what Billie knows will remain forever elusive.  IMO
 
I hope I am wrong.

Janet


BUMPED

Well she cant afford this guy so Im guessing he had to take it pro bono & I'll wait to hear that confirmed.  There is no doubt in my mind that ideas of "blood money" are on quite a few individuals minds...I cant help but be cynical after seeing it over and over.

However, I'm also wondering if Billie's meeting with Shawn Sat night is more what prompted Billie to get this attorney.   She had the opportunity to get a court appointed public defender by the judge for her misdemeanor charges, she declined to contact an attorney or have one appointed to her.   Could it be that Shawn already started talking?  or Could it be that Billie is about to?

One thing is for certain the hot water is now at a boiling point for both of them.

 ::rhino::

Maybe Shawn is about to accept a plea deal for a confession ... a plea deal that will take the death penalty off the table.  Maybe implicating Billy illegal wrongdoing whether or not that wrongdoing is connected to the disappearance of her daughter.

Capp ... I think that truths are about to be revealed in the Hailey Dunn case.

Janet

I tend to agree that even if its by temporary silence that something is about to break.

Wonder if JVM or NG will cover it tonight, they totally missed the scoop of her arrest.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 21, 2011, 07:25:49 PM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27268142/detail.html
Mother Of Missing Teen Now Represented By Legal CouncilBy Jacqueline Hince, KTXS News
POSTED: 4:34 pm CDT March 21, 2011
 5:37 pm CDT March 21, 2011

snip
Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs tell us that Dunn told him she is no longer talking to either media, or law enforcement about anything, including her daughter's case.

now how Fn stupid is that,how the hill,are you going to help find your daughter,you ding bat,
how Fn incredible,i hear the sound of a brain on drugs
wonder what hailey dad thinks about that


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 21, 2011, 07:28:26 PM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27268142/detail.html
Mother Of Missing Teen Now Represented By Legal CouncilBy Jacqueline Hince, KTXS News
POSTED: 4:34 pm CDT March 21, 2011
 5:37 pm CDT March 21, 2011

snip
Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs tell us that Dunn told him she is no longer talking to either media, or law enforcement about anything, including her daughter's case.

now how Fn stupid is that,how the hill,are you going to help find your daughter,you ding bat,
how Fn incredible,i hear the sound of a brain on drugs
wonder what hailey dad thinks about that

sorry for the quote me, the BBM is JMO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on March 21, 2011, 07:33:25 PM
Hailey's Mother Hires Attorney, No Longer Speaking to Media
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756

Monday, 2:15 p.m. Update:
According to the Snyder Daily News, an entry on the blotter at the Scurry County Law Enforcement Center Sunday afternoon stated a woman called and asked to speak to an officer on the telephone in reference to both Dunn and Adkins being together at the caller’s residence looking for someone.
The officer responding stated there was not a vehicle at the location and no contact was made.

Monday, 2 p.m. Update:
Billie Dunn tells KRBC's Jessica Reyes she has hired an attorney and is no longer able to speak with the media.

Dunn was scheduled to do an interview with Reyes at 3 p.m Monday and canceled.
 ::snipping2::

Wonder who they were looking for??



More then likely her drug dealer..she was starting to look pretty bad at her arraignment.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 07:36:33 PM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27268142/detail.html
Mother Of Missing Teen Now Represented By Legal CouncilBy Jacqueline Hince, KTXS News
POSTED: 4:34 pm CDT March 21, 2011
 5:37 pm CDT March 21, 2011

snip
Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs tell us that Dunn told him she is no longer talking to either media, or law enforcement about anything, including her daughter's case.

now how Fn stupid is that,how the hill,are you going to help find your daughter,you ding bat,
how Fn incredible,i hear the sound of a brain on drugs
wonder what hailey dad thinks about that

sorry for the quote me, the BBM is JMO

If she is totally innocent of anything to do with Hailey she NEVER would have had hesitated to talk to LE about that criminal investigation....and I gotta stress the obvious to us NEVER


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 07:44:24 PM
Look for report from Bigcountryhomepage  KTAB later tonight - locals reporting that BD's attorney spoke out including mention Hailey & we shouldnt be judging others.  The fact he said that indicates to me that this is more than hiring attorney for misdemeanor charges...way more.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/index.php


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on March 21, 2011, 07:54:42 PM
 ::MonkeyShocked::

Interesting........googled her atty and found this too:

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332256

 ::snipping2::

Noted Abilene defense attorney John Young tells KTAB News that Shawn Adkins did the right thing by hiring a lawyer now that he's been named a suspect in the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.
In fact, Adkins began to mention an attorney just days after reportedly failing a polygraph exam on Wednesday, January 5.

Young has defended numerous high-profile suspects in some of Abilene's biggest cases.

"This biggest question is not why he hired a lawyer," said Young. "The biggest question is why he didn't hired a lawyer more quickly."

 ::snipping2::

I'd say according to her own lawyer she is behind the eight ball {literally and figuratively} ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 08:00:55 PM
::MonkeyShocked::

Interesting........googled her atty and found this too:

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332256

 ::snipping2::

Noted Abilene defense attorney John Young tells KTAB News that Shawn Adkins did the right thing by hiring a lawyer now that he's been named a suspect in the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.
In fact, Adkins began to mention an attorney just days after reportedly failing a polygraph exam on Wednesday, January 5.

Young has defended numerous high-profile suspects in some of Abilene's biggest cases.

"This biggest question is not why he hired a lawyer," said Young. "The biggest question is why he didn't hired a lawyer more quickly."

 ::snipping2::

I'd say according to her own lawyer she is behind the eight ball {literally and figuratively} ::MonkeyWink::

ya think?    Holy contradicting crap talker!    So Mr. Young, what took your client so long to hire you?   If you feel that strongly about it why didnt you reach out to your client sooner?

O god...here we go!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 21, 2011, 08:03:06 PM
I wonder if Clint's post this morning....Billie needs support too.
was because he had to sign the house over to the big time lawyer for
a retainer.  Both his and Billie's names are on the deed.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 21, 2011, 08:09:05 PM
Hailey's Mother Hires Attorney, No Longer Speaking to Media
video
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756&watch=1

i get never cap,its just so hard from case to case,how many times its the mother or the mothers involved
the mother picks a a bad guy for a Bf,husband


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 21, 2011, 08:27:42 PM
Billie's attorney is experienced in defending child porn cases,though not sucessfully!

http://justice.co.tom-green.tx.us/Scripts/UVlink.isa/tgcrisc/WEBSERV/CriminalSearch?action%253Dview%26track%253D99045

In the 51ST JUDICIAL DISTRICT
Tom Green County, Texas
Cause No. A-05-0524-S

STATE OF TEXAS VS. TOMMY ELTON ROBERTSON JR

Defendant
Robertson, Tommy Elton, Jr
710 Co Rd 272
Austin, Tx 78641
 
White Male 6' 3" 205
 
 

Defense Attorneys
Young, John S (Bar # 22197800)


Case Information
Filed on 05/05/2005
07/01/04-SEXUAL ASSAULT CHILD
2nd Degree Felony
Current Status: Disposed/Confinement

 
Capias Issued on 05/09/2005
Warrant Status: Closed Warrant

$20,000.00 Bond Set on 05/12/2005 by David Jenkins and Jenkins Action Bail Bond
Current Status of Bond: Bm as of 05/12/2005

Disposition Information
02/24/2006 - Guilty Verdict By Jury Presiding Judge: BARBARA WALTHER
Confinement: Texas Department Of Corrections - 20 Years
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 21, 2011, 08:29:31 PM
::snipping2::
starwynn

I did not realize Richy Cooper's comment on Facebook had been removed.

Richy may have thought better of posting his heartfelt sentiments ... heartfelt sentiments that conform to a great extent with those expressed by his MIL and wife in their BTHN interview.
I don't do Facebook.  Could it be that many of the original Facebook comments copied and pasted to the SM form and then quoted have been removed by authors.
Nevertheless ... Richy Cooper's March 23rd BTHN interview will reveal whether or not his position in his Facebook comment regarding his theory encompassing the disappearance of his niece has changed.

Janet

I suppose people can take their statements back off of facebook, though I don't see that happening very often.  In his case, my understanding is that his "wall" (where all his statements go) is supposed to be set to private, only people that he invites as friends are able to see it.  He put it up there for his "friends" and family to see, it was supposed to stay there, but one of the "friends" took it and started posting it around.  So he took it off - I guess to minimize its exposure. 

I can understand, certainly.  I sure wouldn't want the liability of that sort of accusation, or want to have to worry about retaliation.  Scary stuff!

I mean - you know, it was up there, and that's the deal with facebook:  dont' type it if you can't risk it going public.  Even if you're set to "private".  Once it's in type, people can screenshot and there ya' go.  Still because of his absolutely candid statement, and how painful it is, I just don't repeat it - no matter how badly I'd like to because I really believe not only that he is really missing Hailey, but I also can buy his theory.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 21, 2011, 08:46:55 PM
AND THE WHEELS ON THE BUS GO ROUND AND ROUND....

Sheriff: Dunn and Adkins Met Up Over Weekend


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756

Just a few days after the mother of Hailey Dunn claimed to have cut off ties with her former boyfriend and the only named suspect in her daughter's disappearance, law enforcement says the pair met in Scurry County over the weekend.
Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs says his investigators have learned Billie Dunn and Shawn Adkins met up in Snyder on Saturday evening.

On Friday, Dunn revealed she filed a protective order that would keep Adkins off her property. Toombs confirmed the filing took place but says this hasn't kept the pair from meeting elsewhere.

In response to Sheriff Toombs comments, Billie Dunn told KRBC's Jessica Reyes the accusations were not true. She says she and Adkins haven't seen each other since her arrest on Thursday.


MY NOTE:    It is not considered a protective order if it only prevents someone from being on a property...that is indeed a No Trespassing Order.

We knew she lied about a lie....who is she kidding!    If she was seen due to surveillance she would be best just to admit she got snagged   IMHO it wont be long now

I just.... you know I.... oh phooey.
Not surprised.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 21, 2011, 08:48:16 PM

WOOOOW!  Those threatening messages in SA's phone must have REALLY scared her.  ::MonkeyTongue::

My latest vision of her is her stomping her feet and yelling, "I'm NOT lying THIS time, I promise!!!"  WhatEVER.

LOL!!  Right?

Personally, I think we need to make something a bit like a football pool next time she says it's over.  I'm going for 32 and a half hours on my bet!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 21, 2011, 08:49:29 PM
Sometimes you can catch more flies (in this case POS) with honey . . . for all we know, he is being advised to act nice in hopes in keeps them off balance (not that they have exhibited any balance whatsoever).

Who'd want to catch a big old fly though, particularly when she might turn around and sting you? 
/hugs Sister.  :)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 21, 2011, 08:50:16 PM
Hailey's Mother Hires Attorney, No Longer Speaking to Media
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756

Monday, 2:15 p.m. Update:
According to the Snyder Daily News, an entry on the blotter at the Scurry County Law Enforcement Center Sunday afternoon stated a woman called and asked to speak to an officer on the telephone in reference to both Dunn and Adkins being together at the caller’s residence looking for someone.
The officer responding stated there was not a vehicle at the location and no contact was made.

Monday, 2 p.m. Update:
Billie Dunn tells KRBC's Jessica Reyes she has hired an attorney and is no longer able to speak with the media.

Dunn was scheduled to do an interview with Reyes at 3 p.m Monday and canceled.
 ::snipping2::
That's like closing the coup door afer the chicken are out.
 :smt117

Somewhere in here is a joke to be made about chicken chit.... :D


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on March 21, 2011, 08:50:37 PM
Well, even when she was talking, she was lying about most of it.
So, it doesn't make a difference if she speaks to LE at all. It's too bad that she isn't going to speak to LE about Hailey. IMO, she either held back facts or lied about the whole darn " story " of Dec 26 to Dec 28.
........


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 21, 2011, 08:51:37 PM
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905

MKAshworth Just spoke to Billie Dunn's lawyer--Abilene's John Young, hear details about her case on KTAB tonight!
12 minutes ago via web

I wonder if he's one of those book-writing types?
This is going to get Western here shortly.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 21, 2011, 08:54:01 PM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27268142/detail.html
Mother Of Missing Teen Now Represented By Legal CouncilBy Jacqueline Hince, KTXS News
POSTED: 4:34 pm CDT March 21, 2011
 5:37 pm CDT March 21, 2011

snip
Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs tell us that Dunn told him she is no longer talking to either media, or law enforcement about anything, including her daughter's case.

now how Fn stupid is that,how the hill,are you going to help find your daughter,you ding bat,
how Fn incredible,i hear the sound of a brain on drugs
wonder what hailey dad thinks about that

She doesn't need help finding her daughter.  She knows where she is, and if she doesn't, all she has to do is ask Shawn.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Shell on March 21, 2011, 08:54:01 PM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27268142/detail.html
Mother Of Missing Teen Now Represented By Legal CouncilBy Jacqueline Hince, KTXS News
POSTED: 4:34 pm CDT March 21, 2011
 5:37 pm CDT March 21, 2011

snip
Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs tell us that Dunn told him she is no longer talking to either media, or law enforcement about anything, including her daughter's case.

now how Fn stupid is that,how the hill,are you going to help find your daughter,you ding bat,
how Fn incredible,i hear the sound of a brain on drugs
wonder what hailey dad thinks about that

She shouldn't have anything to worry about in talking to LE if she is innocent and she wants to help find her daughter.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 21, 2011, 08:56:55 PM
Look for report from Bigcountryhomepage  KTAB later tonight - locals reporting that BD's attorney spoke out including mention Hailey & we shouldnt be judging others.  The fact he said that indicates to me that this is more than hiring attorney for misdemeanor charges...way more.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/index.php

I would agree.  I think if she were just going to handle the misdemeanor charges, since she has no job, she would have accepted an appointed attorney.  She has listened to Toombes stating that he would like to see an arrest soon, and she knows the LE isn't into games.  It's only a matter of time now.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353726
Excerpt:  No arrests were made Friday. "We’re hoping there’ll be arrests down the road,” said Toombs, adding that tips continue to come in. “We are still searching on the leads that we get.” He also said Dunn has not been named as a person of interest. But, “her arrest yesterday does not help her cause."



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Shell on March 21, 2011, 09:15:00 PM
Hailey's Mother Hires Attorney, No Longer Speaking to Media
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756

Monday, 2:15 p.m. Update:
According to the Snyder Daily News, an entry on the blotter at the Scurry County Law Enforcement Center Sunday afternoon stated a woman called and asked to speak to an officer on the telephone in reference to both Dunn and Adkins being together at the caller’s residence looking for someone.
The officer responding stated there was not a vehicle at the location and no contact was made.

Monday, 2 p.m. Update:
Billie Dunn tells KRBC's Jessica Reyes she has hired an attorney and is no longer able to speak with the media.

Dunn was scheduled to do an interview with Reyes at 3 p.m Monday and canceled.
 ::snipping2::

Wonder who they were looking for??



More then likely her drug dealer..she was starting to look pretty bad at her arraignment.

I don't get it...why call police that Shawn and Billie are together? He is not supposed to go to her house but nothing says they can't be together away from the house. The person felt threatened or what? They came by looking for someone, so what? Is there a law against that? I am not defending anyone, but there must be more to that story.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 21, 2011, 10:32:53 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/03/billie-dunn-meets-secretly-with-shawn.html

Statement Analysis

Monday, March 21, 2011
Billie Dunn Meets Secretly With Shawn Adkins

 ::snipping2::

But Statement Analysis listens and when she has repeatedly used the word "we" in her sentences regarding Adkins, the pronouns are revealatory. Pronouns are instinctive and are not part of our personal subjective, internal dictionary. "We" indicates unity. Billie Jean Dunn and Shawn Adkins are still a couple.

They share deception, drugs, child pornography and love of violence between them.

They are not likely, however, to share a prison cell. Just as she was deceptive about forgetting to "mention" the Protection Order, she was deceptive about the order itself; not a Protection Order, but a No-Tresspass on her property order. Billie apologists will be quick to claim that she didn't understand the difference between the two.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 10:38:16 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/03/billie-dunn-meets-secretly-with-shawn.html

Statement Analysis

Monday, March 21, 2011
Billie Dunn Meets Secretly With Shawn Adkins

 ::snipping2::

But Statement Analysis listens and when she has repeatedly used the word "we" in her sentences regarding Adkins, the pronouns are revealatory. Pronouns are instinctive and are not part of our personal subjective, internal dictionary. "We" indicates unity. Billie Jean Dunn and Shawn Adkins are still a couple.

They share deception, drugs, child pornography and love of violence between them.

They are not likely, however, to share a prison cell. Just as she was deceptive about forgetting to "mention" the Protection Order, she was deceptive about the order itself; not a Protection Order, but a No-Tresspass on her property order. Billie apologists will be quick to claim that she didn't understand the difference between the two.

 ::snipping2::


Well they can ignore the obvious if they choose BUT the No Trespassing or any other order would have been explained to her explicitly


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 10:39:11 PM
VIDEO IS UP

Listen to what Toombs states in this BCHP video
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 21, 2011, 10:47:24 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/03/billie-dunn-meets-secretly-with-shawn.html

Statement Analysis

Monday, March 21, 2011
Billie Dunn Meets Secretly With Shawn Adkins

 ::snipping2::

But Statement Analysis listens and when she has repeatedly used the word "we" in her sentences regarding Adkins, the pronouns are revealatory. Pronouns are instinctive and are not part of our personal subjective, internal dictionary. "We" indicates unity. Billie Jean Dunn and Shawn Adkins are still a couple.

They share deception, drugs, child pornography and love of violence between them.

They are not likely, however, to share a prison cell. Just as she was deceptive about forgetting to "mention" the Protection Order, she was deceptive about the order itself; not a Protection Order, but a No-Tresspass on her property order. Billie apologists will be quick to claim that she didn't understand the difference between the two.

 ::snipping2::


Well they can ignore the obvious if they choose BUT the No Trespassing or any other order would have been explained to her explicitly

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: melisb on March 21, 2011, 11:23:19 PM
Anymore on what's up at I20 and all the troopers being there yet?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 21, 2011, 11:31:48 PM
Anymore on what's up at I20 and all the troopers being there yet?


I don't have a link, but I read that they were investigating the site of a
traffic fatality that happened last Thursday.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 21, 2011, 11:55:56 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=354006

VIDEO UP:

The Attorney for Billie Dunn Speaks for His Client

The mother of missing Hailey Dunn, 13, has hired a lawyer and is no longer speaking with media.

Billie Dunn has hired attorney John S. Young to represent her in her three misdemeanor charges: hindering and apprehension, possession of dangerous drugs and false report to a police officer. Young says he isn't convinced a search warrant for Adkins body was issued last Thursday.

"(Police) didn't even have an arrest warrant for the boyfriend, it was a matter of wanting to talk to him," said Young.
 ::snipping2::

So why did your client lie?   Why did Shawn call and tell LE that he was at the house?
Im about to listen now to the video


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: melisb on March 21, 2011, 11:58:11 PM
Anymore on what's up at I20 and all the troopers being there yet?


I don't have a link, but I read that they were investigating the site of a
traffic fatality that happened last Thursday.

Thanks Magnolia!  I too was hoping it was something about Hailey.  OT Magnolias are my fav flower and have many trees in the yard. So fragrant and go check out Brandi's avitar y'all.  Sorry Mods, I'm back on track. Cappy said she was gonna check and see if CD really made the FB comment about BD.  I'll bet he did cause he just can't bring himself to think that the woman he had Hailey with would harm her, allow someone to harm her or cover said crime up.  He's just not willing to go there.  Poor guy.  When, and if, all comes out and BD did have a hand in this I don't think he is going to hold up well.  I thinks when it's time to tell him what really happened they better go with medics and maybe LE just to subdue him so he won't hurt someone or himself.  So sad for him.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 21, 2011, 11:59:37 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=354006

VIDEO UP:

The Attorney for Billie Dunn Speaks for His Client

The mother of missing Hailey Dunn, 13, has hired a lawyer and is no longer speaking with media.

Billie Dunn has hired attorney John S. Young to represent her in her three misdemeanor charges: hindering and apprehension, possession of dangerous drugs and false report to a police officer. Young says he isn't convinced a search warrant for Adkins body was issued last Thursday.

"(Police) didn't even have an arrest warrant for the boyfriend, it was a matter of wanting to talk to him," said Young.
 ::snipping2::

So why did your client lie?   Why did Shawn call and tell LE that he was at the house?
Im about to listen now to the video


John Young is sounding like J.J. Loophole already. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 22, 2011, 12:00:39 AM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=354006

VIDEO UP:

The Attorney for Billie Dunn Speaks for His Client

The mother of missing Hailey Dunn, 13, has hired a lawyer and is no longer speaking with media.

Billie Dunn has hired attorney John S. Young to represent her in her three misdemeanor charges: hindering and apprehension, possession of dangerous drugs and false report to a police officer. Young says he isn't convinced a search warrant for Adkins body was issued last Thursday.

"(Police) didn't even have an arrest warrant for the boyfriend, it was a matter of wanting to talk to him," said Young.
 ::snipping2::

So why did your client lie?   Why did Shawn call and tell LE that he was at the house?
Im about to listen now to the video

According to her lawyer, "That was not a smart move; I can't tell you why she did that..." concerning the Hindering Apprehension action for which she is being charged.
(same link: http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=354006)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 22, 2011, 12:03:00 AM
John Young is sounding like J.J. Loophole already. ::MonkeyTongue::

Sounds like she allowed them into the house.  But wasn't there talk of probable cause?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 22, 2011, 12:04:27 AM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=354006

VIDEO UP:

The Attorney for Billie Dunn Speaks for His Client

The mother of missing Hailey Dunn, 13, has hired a lawyer and is no longer speaking with media.

Billie Dunn has hired attorney John S. Young to represent her in her three misdemeanor charges: hindering and apprehension, possession of dangerous drugs and false report to a police officer. Young says he isn't convinced a search warrant for Adkins body was issued last Thursday.

"(Police) didn't even have an arrest warrant for the boyfriend, it was a matter of wanting to talk to him," said Young.
 ::snipping2::

So why did your client lie?   Why did Shawn call and tell LE that he was at the house?
Im about to listen now to the video

According to her lawyer, "That was not a smart move; I can't tell you why she did that..." concerning the Hindering Apprehension action for which she is being charged.
(same link: http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=354006)

O poor poor Billie Jean Dunn-Dumm she was embarrassed...did you hear that EMBARRASSED, really?   Hmm...interesting considering she was told several times to stay away from Shawn, she wasnt embarrassed when she brought him roses for Valentine's Day!! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 22, 2011, 12:05:18 AM
John Young is sounding like J.J. Loophole already. ::MonkeyTongue::

Sounds like she allowed them into the house.  But wasn't there talk of probable cause?

She lied and then let them in.   At some point Shawn called LE to say he was there. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 22, 2011, 12:13:37 AM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=354006

VIDEO UP:

The Attorney for Billie Dunn Speaks for His Client

The mother of missing Hailey Dunn, 13, has hired a lawyer and is no longer speaking with media.

Billie Dunn has hired attorney John S. Young to represent her in her three misdemeanor charges: hindering and apprehension, possession of dangerous drugs and false report to a police officer. Young says he isn't convinced a search warrant for Adkins body was issued last Thursday.

"(Police) didn't even have an arrest warrant for the boyfriend, it was a matter of wanting to talk to him," said Young.
 ::snipping2::

So why did your client lie?   Why did Shawn call and tell LE that he was at the house?
Im about to listen now to the video

According to her lawyer, "That was not a smart move; I can't tell you why she did that..." concerning the Hindering Apprehension action for which she is being charged.
(same link: http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=354006)

O poor poor Billie Jean Dunn-Dumm she was embarrassed...did you hear that EMBARRASSED, really?   Hmm...interesting considering she was told several times to stay away from Shawn, she wasnt embarrassed when she brought him roses for Valentine's Day!! ::MonkeyMad::

She also wasn't at all embarrassed to hang out with Shawny-Boy this weekend, either, even after having recently lied to John Q. Public just a couple of days before implying she was done with him.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 22, 2011, 12:18:24 AM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=354006

VIDEO UP:

The Attorney for Billie Dunn Speaks for His Client

The mother of missing Hailey Dunn, 13, has hired a lawyer and is no longer speaking with media.

Billie Dunn has hired attorney John S. Young to represent her in her three misdemeanor charges: hindering and apprehension, possession of dangerous drugs and false report to a police officer. Young says he isn't convinced a search warrant for Adkins body was issued last Thursday.

"(Police) didn't even have an arrest warrant for the boyfriend, it was a matter of wanting to talk to him," said Young.
 ::snipping2::

So why did your client lie?   Why did Shawn call and tell LE that he was at the house?
Im about to listen now to the video

According to her lawyer, "That was not a smart move; I can't tell you why she did that..." concerning the Hindering Apprehension action for which she is being charged.
(same link: http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=354006)

O poor poor Billie Jean Dunn-Dumm she was embarrassed...did you hear that EMBARRASSED, really?   Hmm...interesting considering she was told several times to stay away from Shawn, she wasnt embarrassed when she brought him roses for Valentine's Day!! ::MonkeyMad::

She also wasn't at all embarrassed to hang out with Shawny-Boy this weekend, either, even after having recently lied to John Q. Public just a couple of days before implying she was done with him.



This attorney also is eluding he doesnt know the difference between an arrest warrant and a search warrant....O God visions of Bozo and Colonel Crusty just invaded my mind!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 22, 2011, 12:20:29 AM
It's funny -she says he's so "desperate" to get back with her... if she were afraid, all she would have to do would have been stay on her property and for a year he can't go there, right?
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/search-fulltext?nxd_id=353316


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 22, 2011, 12:21:28 AM
She should have been mortified when he was caught with 109,000 pieces
of child porn, but she just doubted him "a little bit'  He was nice and kind
she said.  What is wrong with her?  Her child is missing for heaven's sake.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 22, 2011, 12:21:52 AM

This attorney also is eluding he doesnt know the difference between an arrest warrant and a search warrant....O God visions of Bozo and Colonel Crusty just invaded my mind!

This is going to be a nightmare case, isn't it?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 22, 2011, 12:23:50 AM

This attorney also is eluding he doesnt know the difference between an arrest warrant and a search warrant....O God visions of Bozo and Colonel Crusty just invaded my mind!

This is going to be a nightmare case, isn't it?

It is going to be a real bumpy ride & yea that's a safe bet.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 22, 2011, 12:38:21 AM
Now that Billie has hired a lawyer, I wonder how long before she drops the No Traspass Order.  I'm sure that the lawyer wouldn't want her to lie and get embarrassed again if Shawn comes over for "a little bit."  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cookie on March 22, 2011, 07:46:22 AM
honestly, I would be too scared to ever lie to a police officer!
Billie is so addicted to this creepy guy!
I wish that she would put in  as much time to try to find Hailey as she puts into  sneaking around to be with  Shawn... ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Sister on March 22, 2011, 08:51:12 AM
honestly, I would be too scared to ever lie to a police officer!
Billie is so addicted to this creepy guy!
I wish that she would put in  as much time to try to find Hailey as she puts into  sneaking around to be with  Shawn... ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::
Cookie, couldn't agree with you more . . .


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 22, 2011, 09:41:19 AM
honestly, I would be too scared to ever lie to a police officer!
Billie is so addicted to this creepy guy!
I wish that she would put in  as much time to try to find Hailey as she puts into  sneaking around to be with  Shawn... ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::
Cookie, couldn't agree with you more . . .

BJD and SA are addicts -- lying is what they do.

Quote
A main symptom of addiction is lying. Lying to yourself (denial) and lying to others. ‘The eyes are the windows to the soul’, that’s how the expression goes and it’s real. When addicts lie they believe that others can’t tell that they are not telling the truth. ::snipping2::

Dr Affie Adagio Life Coach, Family Therapist, Marriage Celebrant, Trainer

http://www.affie.com.au/addiction-is-lying/ :ncool: (http://www.affie.com.au/addiction-is-lying/ :ncool:)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on March 22, 2011, 09:53:50 AM
How many think that Billie knows where her daughter's body is ?
Personally I do. I think she has lied so much that she has
even convinced herself 2 believe her own lies.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 22, 2011, 10:10:47 AM
Please excuse the interruption.  For those who were asking for a PO Box to mail donations to Red has supplied one.  I asked for an update and he said he's still in the process of answering motions back and forth and because it's on going he can't really tell us much at this time. 


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9451.msg1318366#msg1318366


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: 4 Donks on March 22, 2011, 10:35:04 AM
Please excuse the interruption.  For those who were asking for a PO Box to mail donations to Red has supplied one.  I asked for an update and he said he's still in the process of answering motions back and forth and because it's on going he can't really tell us much at this time. 


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9451.msg1318366#msg1318366
Thank you Klaas and Red for the update.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cookie on March 22, 2011, 10:43:51 AM
How many think that Billie knows where her daughter's body is ?
Personally I do. I think she has lied so much that she has
even convinced herself 2 believe her own lies.

I don't think that she does..
I think that SA does though....but dumb Billie believes whatever he says...
 if SA told BD that her daughter isn't really missing, I think the dumb biotch would believe him..even though there is no sign of Hailey... ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 22, 2011, 11:21:49 AM
Good Morning All.

I have compiled a list of the sites referring to the topic of Billie attorney that were posted yesterday afternoon/evening.  I am off again this morning but ... will do some reading this afternoon.

Later, Janet
8:20 AM PT

++++++


Mother Of Missing Teen Now Represented By Legal Counsel
POSTED: 4:34 pm CDT March 21, 2011
UPDATED: 7:16 am CDT March 22, 2011

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27268142/detail.html


Hailey's Mother Hires Attorney, No Longer Speaking to Media
Monday, March 21 2011

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756


Attorney Says Adkins Smart For Getting "Lawyered Up"
Tuesday, January 18 2011

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332256


Affidavits: Adkins Search Warrants Linked to Child Porn
Monday, March 21 2011

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353726


Attorney for Billie Dunn Speaks for His Client
Monday, March 21 2011

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=354006




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 22, 2011, 11:34:22 AM
How many think that Billie knows where her daughter's body is ?
Personally I do. I think she has lied so much that she has
even convinced herself 2 believe her own lies.

I do.  My theory implies that Shawn confessed to Billie on December 29th prior to them both being questioned by authorities.  Billie concedes that it was on the 29th that Shawn revealed to her that he had not been at work throughout the day on December 27th.

I do not know what was the underlying reason that Billie did not throw Shawn under the bus on the 29th.   Was it a warped sense of love?  Would Shawn implicate Billie in illegal wrongdoing that could land her behind bars for a long time ... illegal wrongdoing that had nothing to do with the demise of her daughter?  Something akin to the sale of child pornography?

Nevertheless ... I suspect that the 29th was the point in time when Billie made the calculated decision not to implicate Shawn.  Her twisted selfish thinking justified her position.  After all ... nothing was going to bring her daughter back.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 22, 2011, 11:55:02 AM


Billie Dunn's New Attorney Acknowledges His Client's Mistakes
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27270724/detail.html
 ::snipping2::
There was also a published report that Dunn was no longer speaking to the media.

However, Young corrected that statement by saying she will continue doing interviews – but only if her legal counsel is also there. ::snipping2::

Well, at least he knows his client well enough that she can't resist the media...



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 22, 2011, 12:00:35 PM


Billie Dunn's New Attorney Acknowledges His Client's Mistakes
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27270724/detail.html
 ::snipping2::
There was also a published report that Dunn was no longer speaking to the media.

However, Young corrected that statement by saying she will continue doing interviews – but only if her legal counsel is also there. ::snipping2::

Well, at least he knows his client well enough that she can't resist the media...



I knew it!!

Janet

+++++

wow i must have shimmed over this little peice, so she can afford a lawyer

During the hearing, Dunn was not represented by an attorney and declined to have the court appoint one for her.
http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/18/mother-missing-colorado-city-teen-hailey-dunn-arra/


I can envision it now.

If not today ... then tomorrow or ... the next day ... a high profile defence attorney will come galloping in on a white horse.  Then the talk show circuit with the major networks will be where it is at.  Maybe book and/or movie deals.  Unchallenged platforms will be provided to Billie ... unchallenged platforms to further her agenda of protecting Shawn from implication in the disappearance of her daughter.  In other words ... the truth in regards to what Billie knows will remain forever elusive.
 
IMO.  I hope I am wrong.

Janet



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 22, 2011, 12:16:15 PM

Interesting tidbits, HOWEVER, should be considered rumor only until confirmed:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/WOTS-Word-On-The-Street-Hailey-Dunn-Case/206505536031382

WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is Billie Dunn sent a text yesterday to Clint and Naomi offering Clint custody of Hailey and David if he will sign the deed to their house over to her and promise not to go after her for child support. What do you know about this?
4 minutes ago ·LikeUnlike ·


WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is the FBI and Texas Rangers are going to seek charges today. What do you know about this?
2 minutes ago ·LikeUnlike ·



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 22, 2011, 12:30:08 PM


Billie Dunn's New Attorney Acknowledges His Client's Mistakes
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27270724/detail.html
 ::snipping2::
There was also a published report that Dunn was no longer speaking to the media.

However, Young corrected that statement by saying she will continue doing interviews – but only if her legal counsel is also there. ::snipping2::

Well, at least he knows his client well enough that she can't resist the media...



Another media ho!!   A few comments about statements Young made in above linked article:

"There was some discussion with law enforcement that being anyway associated with this person was somehow going to taint her and somehow get her charged with a crime," Young said.
This may suggest why Mitchell County Sheriff Partick Toombs announced that Adkins and Dunn were spotted together over the weekend, he said.



What is Young suggesting that they lied?   That LE tried to coerce her to stay away from SA?    If he wished she had legal representation much sooner, why didnt he step up then?

"I wish she hadn't told police Mr. Adkins wasn't there, but I wait anxiously for what incredible information comes from that warrant," he said.

Quite frankly it doesnt matter one bit what the search warrant states or what they wanted from Shawn, that is regarding his client.   The fact is she lied to LE that he was there, the reason they asked is irrelevant.

Young said this wasn't the only instance of law enforcement having an unfair advantage. He said officers intentionally arrested Dunn at night so she was unable to bond out until the next day – then the questioned her from 8 p.m. to midnight.
"I think it was not a mistake ... that Ms. Dunn was arrested after 8 when there was not a judge to magistrate her," he said. "She was unable to get a bond, so they were able to chat with her for a while whether she wanted to or not."


O please, here we go....my client was not treated properly, she was denied her rights blah blah blah.    Young should know better, LE had to have given her Miranda rights & further ask her if she wanted to talk voluntarily....it didnt work for Bozo, it wont work for you dude!

Young corrected that statement by saying she will continue doing interviews – but only if her legal counsel is also there.     

Makeup, please!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 22, 2011, 12:35:11 PM

Interesting tidbits, HOWEVER, should be considered rumor only until confirmed:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/WOTS-Word-On-The-Street-Hailey-Dunn-Case/206505536031382

WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is Billie Dunn sent a text yesterday to Clint and Naomi offering Clint custody of Hailey and David if he will sign the deed to their house over to her and promise not to go after her for child support. What do you know about this?
4 minutes ago ·LikeUnlike ·


WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is the FBI and Texas Rangers are going to seek charges today. What do you know about this?
2 minutes ago ·LikeUnlike ·



This may just be a rumor so I will proceed as such.    Im making a call, I may or may not get an answer.   IF she did this its for bond & her lawyer, she knows Hailey is dead & David is not his biological father but in protective custody initiated by CPS so it appears she wouldnt care about the house or her children....to me this, if true, would indicate guilt & the knowledge that she may be going away for a very long time.

As far as possible charges (again a rumor by WOTS at this point), I have no idea what this page is basing that on.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: 4myjoey on March 22, 2011, 12:54:11 PM

Interesting tidbits, HOWEVER, should be considered rumor only until confirmed:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/WOTS-Word-On-The-Street-Hailey-Dunn-Case/206505536031382

WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is Billie Dunn sent a text yesterday to Clint and Naomi offering Clint custody of Hailey and David if he will sign the deed to their house over to her and promise not to go after her for child support. What do you know about this?
4 minutes ago ·LikeUnlike ·


WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is the FBI and Texas Rangers are going to seek charges today. What do you know about this?
2 minutes ago ·LikeUnlike ·




She needs money for her Attorney and she will  turn around and sell it. MOO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 22, 2011, 12:59:33 PM

Interesting tidbits, HOWEVER, should be considered rumor only until confirmed:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/WOTS-Word-On-The-Street-Hailey-Dunn-Case/206505536031382

WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is Billie Dunn sent a text yesterday to Clint and Naomi offering Clint custody of Hailey and David if he will sign the deed to their house over to her and promise not to go after her for child support. What do you know about this?
4 minutes ago ·LikeUnlike ·


WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is the FBI and Texas Rangers are going to seek charges today. What do you know about this?
2 minutes ago ·LikeUnlike ·




She needs money for her Attorney and she will  turn around and sell it. MOO

She legally cannot without Clint's approval.   The house is in both of their names.  I'll reserve opinion on what he may or may not do until this is substantiated but it wont be a favorable one if he does this.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 22, 2011, 01:17:25 PM

Interesting tidbits, HOWEVER, should be considered rumor only until confirmed:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/WOTS-Word-On-The-Street-Hailey-Dunn-Case/206505536031382

WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is Billie Dunn sent a text yesterday to Clint and Naomi offering Clint custody of Hailey and David if he will sign the deed to their house over to her and promise not to go after her for child support. What do you know about this?
4 minutes ago ·LikeUnlike ·


WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is the FBI and Texas Rangers are going to seek charges today. What do you know about this?
2 minutes ago ·LikeUnlike ·



This may just be a rumor so I will proceed as such.    Im making a call, I may or may not get an answer.   IF she did this its for bond & her lawyer, she knows Hailey is dead & David is not his biological father but in protective custody initiated by CPS so it appears she wouldnt care about the house or her children....to me this, if true, would indicate guilt & the knowledge that she may be going away for a very long time.

As far as possible charges (again a rumor by WOTS at this point), I have no idea what this page is basing that on.

Whoa Nellie!

It appears that Billie is attempting to negotiate the sale of Hailey and David with their unemployed ... already financially destitute father.  In other words ... she is taking the food out of the mouth  and the clothes off the backs of her children.

If this "rumor" turns out to be true ... Billie is lower than the low.

Janet

Janet 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: seahorse on March 22, 2011, 01:24:25 PM
Hello Monkey's ::HelloKitty::

Did Clint legally adopt David?  Has this been confirmed?  Would paper work be available if David did adopt David?

What IF BD just changed the child's last name????  I mean anyone can go and change a name with a couple dollars. So we do

not know if Clint did or did not adopt Billy.  Thank-you.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: seahorse on March 22, 2011, 01:29:36 PM
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How do I remove the father's name and information from a birth certificate?
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The man currently listed as the father on the birth certificate is not the biological father, or
The father's rights have been terminated, and his name is to be removed from the birth certificate. In this case, the Application for a New Birth Certificate Based on Parentage can be signed in the presence of a notary public by either the mother or by the man whose name is being removed from the birth certificate.
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Can the mother's information be removed from a birth certificate?
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Does a court order terminating the parental rights allow information to be removed from a birth certificate?
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What is a "gestational agreement"?
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Can the intended parents' names on the birth certificate be changed using the Application for a New Birth Certificate Based on Parentage?
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Will my certified copy of a court order be returned to me by the state?
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What if one of the parents is deceased?
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Can the name of a stepfather be added to a birth certificate using the Application for a New Birth Certificate Based on Parentage?
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 ::snipping2::

What about changing the child's last name?

The child's last name can be changed to the father's last name if both parents are in agreement and they both sign the Application for a New Birth Certificate Based on Parentage in the presence of a notary public. However, if a court order already addresses a name change for the child, the child's name must be changed to what the court has ordered it to be.


 ::snipping2::


http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/vs/reqproc/faq/paternity.shtm#a10

My opinion is she changed the name rather than going through the process of adoption...my opinion ::MonkeyEek::




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 22, 2011, 01:52:26 PM

Interesting tidbits, HOWEVER, should be considered rumor only until confirmed:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/WOTS-Word-On-The-Street-Hailey-Dunn-Case/206505536031382

WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is Billie Dunn sent a text yesterday to Clint and Naomi offering Clint custody of Hailey and David if he will sign the deed to their house over to her and promise not to go after her for child support. What do you know about this?
4 minutes ago ·LikeUnlike ·


WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is the FBI and Texas Rangers are going to seek charges today. What do you know about this?
2 minutes ago ·LikeUnlike ·





Whoa Nellie!

It appears that Billie is attempting to negotiate the sale of Hailey and David with their unemployed ... already financially destitute father.  In other words ... she is taking the food out of the mouth  and the clothes off the backs of her children.

If this "rumor" turns out to be true ... Billie is lower than the low.

Janet


Is Billie playing on Clint's hope that his daughter is still alive when she offers him custody of his daughter?

Despicable!!

Janet





Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 22, 2011, 02:01:09 PM
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/WOTS-Word-On-The-Street-Hailey-Dunn-Case/206505536031382
WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is Billie Dunn sent a text yesterday to Clint and Naomi offering Clint custody of Hailey and David if he will sign the deed to their house over to her and promise not to go after her for child support. What do you know about this?
4 minutes ago ·LikeUnlike ·

 prob not true,she just wants the house to pay young

JMO
a solution for clint, in this situation, tell BD no,get a 2nd
mortgage,while you finish your jail time, naomi and i will take
care of the house while you are gone,and if your found guilty
of hailey disappearance,you can sign off the house to me,as you/
BD, will not be needing one
JMO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 22, 2011, 02:23:38 PM
Hello Monkey's ::HelloKitty::

Did Clint legally adopt David?  Has this been confirmed?  Would paper work be available if David did adopt David?

What IF BD just changed the child's last name????  I mean anyone can go and change a name with a couple dollars. So we do

not know if Clint did or did not adopt Billy.  Thank-you.



Clint and Naomi were on one of those talk radio shows (Bring Them Home Now)
and Clint said that Billie tricked him into signing a paper so that David could use the
name Dunn at school.  He said that he has never adopted David.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 22, 2011, 02:46:05 PM
Was David adopted.  According to Clint "NO".

Janet

+++++

Saturday, February 05, 2011
EXCLUSIVE: Billie Jean Dunn Revealed
by Peter Hyatt


<snipped>

Billie fretted about money always. Clint himself, years ago, had blown some rent money on drugs and it hurt Billie deeply. He knows how she frets over money.

Billie is also quite clever and knows how to manipulate or game the system. She even tricked Clint (and the local school district) into signing some papers that he thought gave him David in adoption, as his son, allowing David to use the name, "Dunn" legally. Clint is proud of David. Billie's papers didn't mean that Clint adopted David. Billie tricked him, and she tricked the school district. Billie is clever, he explained.

<snipped>

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:l7vth1wogvsJ:seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/02/excl.html+EXCLUSIVE:+Billie+Jean+Dunn+Revealed&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 22, 2011, 02:54:02 PM
(Continued)

Titch
Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 -
« Reply #514 on: February 08, 2011, 06:49:52 PM »


<snipped>

I read on Peter's blog (comments section) that the reason Clint didn't call in for the second phone interview (when Dr Glass was on) was because Billie's mom posted on Facebook that if Clint airs Billie's dirty laundry, then they'll do the same.

<snipped>

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9372.msg1302063#msg1302063


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 22, 2011, 02:56:40 PM
 ::HelloKitty::

Hi joesamas mama.  I hope you are having a good day.

I hope you are having a good day.  My plans outside the computer room changed from this morning to this afternoon.  Friend had unexpected company.

I am now off.

Later, Janet
11:55 AM PT


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on March 22, 2011, 03:04:40 PM
::HelloKitty::

Hi joesamas mama.  I hope you are having a good day.

I hope you are having a good day.  My plans outside the computer room changed from this morning to this afternoon.  Friend had unexpected company.

I am now off.

Later, Janet
11:55 AM PT
  ::HelloKitty:: Hi Janet, hope you are having a good day as well. Have a good afternoon, maybe when you come back there will be breaking news of an arrest.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 22, 2011, 03:17:38 PM


Billie Dunn's New Attorney Acknowledges His Client's Mistakes
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27270724/detail.html
 ::snipping2::
There was also a published report that Dunn was no longer speaking to the media.

However, Young corrected that statement by saying she will continue doing interviews – but only if her legal counsel is also there. ::snipping2::

Well, at least he knows his client well enough that she can't resist the media...



Another media ho!!   A few comments about statements Young made in above linked article:

"There was some discussion with law enforcement that being anyway associated with this person was somehow going to taint her and somehow get her charged with a crime," Young said.
This may suggest why Mitchell County Sheriff Partick Toombs announced that Adkins and Dunn were spotted together over the weekend, he said.



What is Young suggesting that they lied?   That LE tried to coerce her to stay away from SA?    If he wished she had legal representation much sooner, why didnt he step up then?

"I wish she hadn't told police Mr. Adkins wasn't there, but I wait anxiously for what incredible information comes from that warrant," he said.

Quite frankly it doesnt matter one bit what the search warrant states or what they wanted from Shawn, that is regarding his client.   The fact is she lied to LE that he was there, the reason they asked is irrelevant.

Young said this wasn't the only instance of law enforcement having an unfair advantage. He said officers intentionally arrested Dunn at night so she was unable to bond out until the next day – then the questioned her from 8 p.m. to midnight.
"I think it was not a mistake ... that Ms. Dunn was arrested after 8 when there was not a judge to magistrate her," he said. "She was unable to get a bond, so they were able to chat with her for a while whether she wanted to or not."


O please, here we go....my client was not treated properly, she was denied her rights blah blah blah.    Young should know better, LE had to have given her Miranda rights & further ask her if she wanted to talk voluntarily....it didnt work for Bozo, it wont work for you dude!

Young corrected that statement by saying she will continue doing interviews – but only if her legal counsel is also there.     

Makeup, please!

Billie CHOSE to lie to LE.
Billie consented to a search of her home that she KNEW would reveal SHE'D LIED about Shawn not being there.  The search of her home also allowed the finding of the prescription bottle "with her name torn off"...

If she had told the truth, and Shawn had come out to talk to LE instead of hiding behind her...no search of her home would have been required.

BTW...wonder why Billie's name was torn off the prescription bottle??????  ::MonkeyWink::

Better choices by Billie and Shawn = no arrest of Billie.   ::MonkeyTongue::

JMO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 22, 2011, 03:58:00 PM


Billie Dunn's New Attorney Acknowledges His Client's Mistakes
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27270724/detail.html
 ::snipping2::
There was also a published report that Dunn was no longer speaking to the media.

However, Young corrected that statement by saying she will continue doing interviews – but only if her legal counsel is also there. ::snipping2::

Well, at least he knows his client well enough that she can't resist the media...



Another media ho!!   A few comments about statements Young made in above linked article:

"There was some discussion with law enforcement that being anyway associated with this person was somehow going to taint her and somehow get her charged with a crime," Young said.
This may suggest why Mitchell County Sheriff Partick Toombs announced that Adkins and Dunn were spotted together over the weekend, he said.



What is Young suggesting that they lied?   That LE tried to coerce her to stay away from SA?    If he wished she had legal representation much sooner, why didnt he step up then?

"I wish she hadn't told police Mr. Adkins wasn't there, but I wait anxiously for what incredible information comes from that warrant," he said.

Quite frankly it doesnt matter one bit what the search warrant states or what they wanted from Shawn, that is regarding his client.   The fact is she lied to LE that he was there, the reason they asked is irrelevant.

Young said this wasn't the only instance of law enforcement having an unfair advantage. He said officers intentionally arrested Dunn at night so she was unable to bond out until the next day – then the questioned her from 8 p.m. to midnight.
"I think it was not a mistake ... that Ms. Dunn was arrested after 8 when there was not a judge to magistrate her," he said. "She was unable to get a bond, so they were able to chat with her for a while whether she wanted to or not."


O please, here we go....my client was not treated properly, she was denied her rights blah blah blah.    Young should know better, LE had to have given her Miranda rights & further ask her if she wanted to talk voluntarily....it didnt work for Bozo, it wont work for you dude!

Young corrected that statement by saying she will continue doing interviews – but only if her legal counsel is also there.     

Makeup, please!

Billie CHOSE to lie to LE.
Billie consented to a search of her home that she KNEW would reveal SHE'D LIED about Shawn not being there.  The search of her home also allowed the finding of the prescription bottle "with her name torn off"...

If she had told the truth, and Shawn had come out to talk to LE instead of hiding behind her...no search of her home would have been required.

BTW...wonder why Billie's name was torn off the prescription bottle??????  ::MonkeyWink::

Better choices by Billie and Shawn = no arrest of Billie.   ::MonkeyTongue::

JMO

Because her name wasnt on the bottle to begin with...just a guess  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 22, 2011, 03:59:41 PM
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/WOTS-Word-On-The-Street-Hailey-Dunn-Case/206505536031382
WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is Billie Dunn sent a text yesterday to Clint and Naomi offering Clint custody of Hailey and David if he will sign the deed to their house over to her and promise not to go after her for child support. What do you know about this?
4 minutes ago ·LikeUnlike ·

 prob not true,she just wants the house to pay young

JMO
a solution for clint, in this situation, tell BD no,get a 2nd
mortgage,while you finish your jail time, naomi and i will take
care of the house while you are gone,and if your found guilty
of hailey disappearance,you can sign off the house to me,as you/
BD, will not be needing one
JMO

Wel, interestingly enough here is info on the house....if that is indeed the value its not going to help her much

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1804-Chestnut-St-Colorado-City-TX-79512/87453345_zpid/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on March 22, 2011, 04:31:18 PM
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/WOTS-Word-On-The-Street-Hailey-Dunn-Case/206505536031382
WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is Billie Dunn sent a text yesterday to Clint and Naomi offering Clint custody of Hailey and David if he will sign the deed to their house over to her and promise not to go after her for child support. What do you know about this?
4 minutes ago ·LikeUnlike ·

 prob not true,she just wants the house to pay young

JMO
a solution for clint, in this situation, tell BD no,get a 2nd
mortgage,while you finish your jail time, naomi and i will take
care of the house while you are gone,and if your found guilty
of hailey disappearance,you can sign off the house to me,as you/
BD, will not be needing one
JMO

Wel, interestingly enough here is info on the house....if that is indeed the value its not going to help her much

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1804-Chestnut-St-Colorado-City-TX-79512/87453345_zpid/

That is exactly what I was thinking.....not to mention the housing mkt stinks right now, some places are better than others and in our area itis finally ticking up but I bought my house for .30 cents on the dollar 2 yrs ago, I can't imagine getting enough for the house to make a dent nor having it closed anytime soon - credit is still very tight and ppl are lucky just to get any contract in alot of places. Me thinks she should stick to what she knows best (ok......I know that was ugly ::MonkeyTongue:: but I LOATHE that woman


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 22, 2011, 04:34:31 PM

Interesting tidbits, HOWEVER, should be considered rumor only until confirmed:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/WOTS-Word-On-The-Street-Hailey-Dunn-Case/206505536031382

WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is Billie Dunn sent a text yesterday to Clint and Naomi offering Clint custody of Hailey and David if he will sign the deed to their house over to her and promise not to go after her for child support. What do you know about this?
4 minutes ago ·LikeUnlike ·


WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is the FBI and Texas Rangers are going to seek charges today. What do you know about this?
2 minutes ago ·LikeUnlike ·



Could be an interesting day, huh?



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 22, 2011, 04:36:26 PM


Billie Dunn's New Attorney Acknowledges His Client's Mistakes
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27270724/detail.html
 ::snipping2::
There was also a published report that Dunn was no longer speaking to the media.

However, Young corrected that statement by saying she will continue doing interviews – but only if her legal counsel is also there. ::snipping2::

Well, at least he knows his client well enough that she can't resist the media...



Another media ho!!   A few comments about statements Young made in above linked article:

"There was some discussion with law enforcement that being anyway associated with this person was somehow going to taint her and somehow get her charged with a crime," Young said.
This may suggest why Mitchell County Sheriff Partick Toombs announced that Adkins and Dunn were spotted together over the weekend, he said.



What is Young suggesting that they lied?   That LE tried to coerce her to stay away from SA?    If he wished she had legal representation much sooner, why didnt he step up then?

"I wish she hadn't told police Mr. Adkins wasn't there, but I wait anxiously for what incredible information comes from that warrant," he said.

Quite frankly it doesnt matter one bit what the search warrant states or what they wanted from Shawn, that is regarding his client.   The fact is she lied to LE that he was there, the reason they asked is irrelevant.

Young said this wasn't the only instance of law enforcement having an unfair advantage. He said officers intentionally arrested Dunn at night so she was unable to bond out until the next day – then the questioned her from 8 p.m. to midnight.
"I think it was not a mistake ... that Ms. Dunn was arrested after 8 when there was not a judge to magistrate her," he said. "She was unable to get a bond, so they were able to chat with her for a while whether she wanted to or not."


O please, here we go....my client was not treated properly, she was denied her rights blah blah blah.    Young should know better, LE had to have given her Miranda rights & further ask her if she wanted to talk voluntarily....it didnt work for Bozo, it wont work for you dude!

Young corrected that statement by saying she will continue doing interviews – but only if her legal counsel is also there.     

Makeup, please!

Well, look - an empowerer!  I bet BD just loves him; good match.
That "LE is putting things into my head" bit is going to surface soon.  I knew it.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 22, 2011, 04:39:26 PM
::snipping2::

Is Billie playing on Clint's hope that his daughter is still alive when she offers him custody of his daughter?

Despicable!!

Janet

IF this is true (and I have a sinking feeling it is, Lord help me) then she is indeed the lowest of low.  There's not much likelihood that Hailey is alive, and a lot of likelihood that she ISN'T alive and that BD knows that.  DD isn't even actually CD's son!!  So essentially she's saying "I'll pawn off the son I didn't want (remember she only wanted Hailey) and who isn't yours, and a pretend-daughter, if you'll give me this big house that I have no use for without a son and daughter - when you have a baby coming and are engaged to a wife with another boy".

Wow x 1,000,000.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 22, 2011, 04:40:47 PM
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/WOTS-Word-On-The-Street-Hailey-Dunn-Case/206505536031382
WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is Billie Dunn sent a text yesterday to Clint and Naomi offering Clint custody of Hailey and David if he will sign the deed to their house over to her and promise not to go after her for child support. What do you know about this?
4 minutes ago ·LikeUnlike ·

 prob not true,she just wants the house to pay young

JMO
a solution for clint, in this situation, tell BD no,get a 2nd
mortgage,while you finish your jail time, naomi and i will take
care of the house while you are gone,and if your found guilty
of hailey disappearance,you can sign off the house to me,as you/
BD, will not be needing one
JMO

Wel, interestingly enough here is info on the house....if that is indeed the value its not going to help her much

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1804-Chestnut-St-Colorado-City-TX-79512/87453345_zpid/

Tax apraisals are usually low.  I would guess that the house is worth about $45K.
That is enough for a retainer for the lawyer.  A lawyer in a case like this would
generally take the deed to the house as a down payment on his services.

Since the house is now in both Billie and Clint's name, Clint would have to sign
a Quit Claim Deed in order for Billie to sign the house over to the lawyer.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 22, 2011, 04:41:49 PM
::snipping2::

Because her name wasnt on the bottle to begin with...just a guess  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I wonder if any information was left on the bottle - like the pharmacy, and prescription number.  If so, the prescription (and to whom it belonged) can be traced.
I'm placing my money where Capp is - that it wasn't hers in the first place.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 22, 2011, 04:44:45 PM
Here we go pdf of the Affidavit For Search Warrant:

http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 22, 2011, 04:52:45 PM
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/WOTS-Word-On-The-Street-Hailey-Dunn-Case/206505536031382
WOTS - Word On The Street - Hailey Dunn Case
WOTS is Billie Dunn sent a text yesterday to Clint and Naomi offering Clint custody of Hailey and David if he will sign the deed to their house over to her and promise not to go after her for child support. What do you know about this?
4 minutes ago ·LikeUnlike ·

 prob not true,she just wants the house to pay young

JMO
a solution for clint, in this situation, tell BD no,get a 2nd
mortgage,while you finish your jail time, naomi and i will take
care of the house while you are gone,and if your found guilty
of hailey disappearance,you can sign off the house to me,as you/
BD, will not be needing one
JMO

Wel, interestingly enough here is info on the house....if that is indeed the value its not going to help her much

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1804-Chestnut-St-Colorado-City-TX-79512/87453345_zpid/

Tax apraisals are usually low.  I would guess that the house is worth about $45K.
That is enough for a retainer for the lawyer.  A lawyer in a case like this would
generally take the deed to the house as a down payment on his services.

Since the house is now in both Billie and Clint's name, Clint would have to sign
a Quit Claim Deed in order for Billie to sign the house over to the lawyer.



Im talking about an eventual collateral for a future bond she will need.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on March 22, 2011, 06:14:02 PM
I doubt that the idea of Clint giving up claim to the house and she is trading off the kids
future child support is legal.
David is not even in her custody or control. He is sixteen. Don't know of the State is paying for him to live at her brothers or if her brother is doing it on his own dime.
Hailey is who knows where. If Hailey ever comes back, she certainly would not be placed with Billie after all of this.
...
Billie has nothing to bargain with at the moment. 
 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 22, 2011, 06:54:23 PM
Here we go pdf of the Affidavit For Search Warrant:

http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf
Interesting to note that Carla Renee Rodriguez has a FEDERAL probation officer.  Does anyone know why?



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 22, 2011, 06:55:47 PM
I doubt that the idea of Clint giving up claim to the house and she is trading off the kids
future child support is legal.
David is not even in her custody or control. He is sixteen. Don't know of the State is paying for him to live at her brothers or if her brother is doing it on his own dime.
Hailey is who knows where. If Hailey ever comes back, she certainly would not be placed with Billie after all of this.
...
Billie has nothing to bargain with at the moment. 
 

The State of Texas doesn't pay anything unless a child is placed in a foster home. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 22, 2011, 07:05:13 PM
Here we go pdf of the Affidavit For Search Warrant:

http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf
Interesting to note that Carla Renee Rodriguez has a FEDERAL probation officer.  Does anyone know why?




She was convicted on April 15, 2010, of taking money that was paid for money
orders at the Post Office.
Edit to add link provided by Magnolia.  MB  http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=12319610&clienttype=printable


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 22, 2011, 07:07:07 PM
Here we go pdf of the Affidavit For Search Warrant:

http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf

thx cap

Gma house
30 county road 4132 dunn texas
http://tinyurl.com/47w79qn


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 22, 2011, 07:09:17 PM
Here we go pdf of the Affidavit For Search Warrant:

http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf

Thank you, Capp!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 22, 2011, 07:10:09 PM
Here we go pdf of the Affidavit For Search Warrant:

http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf
Interesting to note that Carla Renee Rodriguez has a FEDERAL probation officer.  Does anyone know why?




She was convicted on April 15, 2010, of taking money that was paid for money
orders at the Post Office.
Edit to add link per Magnolia.  MB
http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=12319610&clienttype=printable


Sorry!!  Here is the link.

http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=12319610&clienttype=printable
Thanks!  Added to post.  MB


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on March 22, 2011, 07:21:38 PM
Reading the search warrant, it talks about "cameras" involved in the porn.

Does that mean that someone took porn shots with the cameras and downloaded them to the computers?

Wonder if there's any porn shots of Shawn/Billie in that mix?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 22, 2011, 07:30:50 PM
Here we go pdf of the Affidavit For Search Warrant:

http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf
Interesting to note that Carla Renee Rodriguez has a FEDERAL probation officer.  Does anyone know why?




She was convicted on April 15, 2010, of taking money that was paid for money
orders at the Post Office.
Edit to add link per Magnolia.  MB
http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=12319610&clienttype=printable


Sorry!!  Here is the link.

http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=12319610&clienttype=printable
Thanks!  Added to post.  MB

Evidently she got probation instead of incarceration.  Does anyone know how she fits into the family tree?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 22, 2011, 07:33:03 PM

in the affidavit pg3, B. flournoy found an email acc, that has a CP image in it,
found on Gma puter
by by SA
http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 22, 2011, 07:42:37 PM
street view
Gma house
30 county road 4132 dunn texas
http://tinyurl.com/47w79qn

overhead view of Gma, notice in the upper right from Gma house, is dunn cemetery, gave me chills
http://tinyurl.com/4ovpqge


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Blink34 on March 22, 2011, 07:45:56 PM
Here we go pdf of the Affidavit For Search Warrant:

http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf
Interesting to note that Carla Renee Rodriguez has a FEDERAL probation officer.  Does anyone know why?




She is the granddaughter of Renee Norwood, spouse of Enrique Rodriguez.

She stole over $7K and her probation and "special conditions" for same require her to submit to searches at anytime.

It was a brilliant way to secure that warrant.


She was convicted on April 15, 2010, of taking money that was paid for money
orders at the Post Office.
Edit to add link per Magnolia.  MB
http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=12319610&clienttype=printable


Sorry!!  Here is the link.

http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=12319610&clienttype=printable
Thanks!  Added to post.  MB

Evidently she got probation instead of incarceration.  Does anyone know how she fits into the family tree?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Blink34 on March 22, 2011, 07:47:10 PM
Here we go pdf of the Affidavit For Search Warrant:

http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf
Interesting to note that Carla Renee Rodriguez has a FEDERAL probation officer.  Does anyone know why?




She was convicted on April 15, 2010, of taking money that was paid for money
orders at the Post Office.
Edit to add link per Magnolia.  MB
http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=12319610&clienttype=printable


Sorry!!  Here is the link.

http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=12319610&clienttype=printable
Thanks!  Added to post.  MB

Evidently she got probation instead of incarceration.  Does anyone know how she fits into the family tree?


aah-

hooy-ed my last post, trying again:

She is the granddaughter of Renee Norwood, spouse of Enrique Rodriguez.

She stole over $7K and her probation and "special conditions" for same require her to submit to searches at anytime.

It was a brilliant way to secure that warrant.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 22, 2011, 07:57:24 PM

in the affidavit pg3, B. flournoy found an email acc, that has a CP image in it,
found on Gma puter
by by SA
http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf


that should have said SA email acc


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 22, 2011, 07:59:55 PM
Thanks, Blink!  I feel like I should have a wall in my house dedicated to characters in this fiasco, their connections, and convictions.

 ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 22, 2011, 08:05:18 PM
Here we go pdf of the Affidavit For Search Warrant:

http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf
Interesting to note that Carla Renee Rodriguez has a FEDERAL probation officer.  Does anyone know why?




She was convicted on April 15, 2010, of taking money that was paid for money
orders at the Post Office.
Edit to add link per Magnolia.  MB
http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=12319610&clienttype=printable


Sorry!!  Here is the link.

http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=12319610&clienttype=printable
Thanks!  Added to post.  MB

Evidently she got probation instead of incarceration.  Does anyone know how she fits into the family tree?


aah-

hooy-ed my last post, trying again:

She is the granddaughter of Renee Norwood, spouse of Enrique Rodriguez.

She stole over $7K and her probation and "special conditions" for same require her to submit to searches at anytime.

It was a brilliant way to secure that warrant.


I agree that it was brilliant.  Is she Shawn's half sister or his cousin?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 22, 2011, 08:28:40 PM
On p. 3 of the Affidavit, Flournoy says that he is assisting le "in the investigation of the disapperance of Hailey Dunn."
Also, on p. 3, an image of child porn on Renee's computer appears to be "very similar" to an image found on Christine's computer.

http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 22, 2011, 08:29:11 PM
Its gonna get interesting to see how Shawn deals with his family possibly going down with him, as far as CP charges being anticipated.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 22, 2011, 08:32:39 PM
On p. 3 of the Affidavit, Flournoy says that he is assisting le "in the investigation of the disapperance of Hailey Dunn."
Also, on p. 3, an image of child porn on Renee's computer appears to be "very similar" to an image found on Christine's computer.

http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf

Yup, that is a direct reference to CP and Hailey's disappearance combined.

Ugh, mom to grandma's computers, sick Sugar Honey Ice Tea!

I also noticed as I suspected several computers including a laptop.    I have always said that there is no way that Shawn & Billie went without a computer considering the enormity of evidence.    I've always suspected that a computer was moved out of Billie's house...remains to be seen if ever.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Blink34 on March 22, 2011, 08:33:59 PM
Here we go pdf of the Affidavit For Search Warrant:

http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf
Interesting to note that Carla Renee Rodriguez has a FEDERAL probation officer.  Does anyone know why?




She was convicted on April 15, 2010, of taking money that was paid for money
orders at the Post Office.
Edit to add link per Magnolia.  MB
http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=12319610&clienttype=printable


Sorry!!  Here is the link.

http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=12319610&clienttype=printable
Thanks!  Added to post.  MB

Evidently she got probation instead of incarceration.  Does anyone know how she fits into the family tree?


aah-

hooy-ed my last post, trying again:

She is the granddaughter of Renee Norwood, spouse of Enrique Rodriguez.

She stole over $7K and her probation and "special conditions" for same require her to submit to searches at anytime.

It was a brilliant way to secure that warrant.


I agree that it was brilliant.  Is she Shawn's half sister or his cousin?

cousin


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 22, 2011, 08:39:06 PM
Here we go pdf of the Affidavit For Search Warrant:

http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf
Interesting to note that Carla Renee Rodriguez has a FEDERAL probation officer.  Does anyone know why?




She was convicted on April 15, 2010, of taking money that was paid for money
orders at the Post Office.
Edit to add link per Magnolia.  MB
http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=12319610&clienttype=printable


Sorry!!  Here is the link.

http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=12319610&clienttype=printable
Thanks!  Added to post.  MB

Evidently she got probation instead of incarceration.  Does anyone know how she fits into the family tree?


aah-

hooy-ed my last post, trying again:

She is the granddaughter of Renee Norwood, spouse of Enrique Rodriguez.

She stole over $7K and her probation and "special conditions" for same require her to submit to searches at anytime.

It was a brilliant way to secure that warrant.


I agree that it was brilliant.  Is she Shawn's half sister or his cousin?

cousin

TY


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 22, 2011, 08:39:42 PM
Been a while since I've read the 7 page affidavit signed on January 7, 2011 by LE.  Looking back besides flunking the polygraphs, Shawn deleted the texts on his cell phone right in front of LE.  Then there are the pages of stuff printed out.  Their HOBBY.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=21&ved=0CBcQFjAAOBQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.reporternews.com%2Fmedia%2Fstatic%2F0113_001_.pdf&rct=j&q=%22shawn%20casey%20adkins%22&ei=2D2JTcHdGaOz0QG4xqDfDQ&usg=AFQjCNEJPBf5fLhyzMZJO4jHo3DowPV-NQ&cad=rja (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=21&ved=0CBcQFjAAOBQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.reporternews.com%2Fmedia%2Fstatic%2F0113_001_.pdf&rct=j&q=%22shawn%20casey%20adkins%22&ei=2D2JTcHdGaOz0QG4xqDfDQ&usg=AFQjCNEJPBf5fLhyzMZJO4jHo3DowPV-NQ&cad=rja)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5059/5551811180_81742c14a2_b.jpg)


(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5175/5551811212_0a6746f3de_b.jpg)



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 22, 2011, 08:54:57 PM
Been a while since I've read the 7 page affidavit signed on January 7, 2011 by LE.  Looking back besides flunking the polygraphs, Shawn deleted the texts on his cell phone right in front of LE.  Then there are the pages of stuff printed out.  Their HOBBY.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=21&ved=0CBcQFjAAOBQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.reporternews.com%2Fmedia%2Fstatic%2F0113_001_.pdf&rct=j&q=%22shawn%20casey%20adkins%22&ei=2D2JTcHdGaOz0QG4xqDfDQ&usg=AFQjCNEJPBf5fLhyzMZJO4jHo3DowPV-NQ&cad=rja (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=21&ved=0CBcQFjAAOBQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.reporternews.com%2Fmedia%2Fstatic%2F0113_001_.pdf&rct=j&q=%22shawn%20casey%20adkins%22&ei=2D2JTcHdGaOz0QG4xqDfDQ&usg=AFQjCNEJPBf5fLhyzMZJO4jHo3DowPV-NQ&cad=rja)

 ::snipping2::


Yea, their hobby looking up stuff about serial killers, family annihilators including pre-pubertal, occult killings....makes one wonder why considering the circumstances & especially with the sexual deprivation.

He removed text and images is my understanding.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 22, 2011, 08:56:52 PM
And, even if that was your "hobby" why on earth would you need to print it out and save it?  IMO, these people are sick.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 22, 2011, 09:01:06 PM
And, even if that was your "hobby" why on earth would you need to print it out and save it?  IMO, these people are sick.

No reason to print it that I can see.   Perhaps they were reading together & taking notes.

Even in the cases we follow, today its just as easy to set up a document file and save it to memory, be it computer, flash drive, external hard drive.   I'd say why waste the money on paper & ink but Billie printed it from work using their resources.    What else is on that computer she used?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: BabsKats on March 22, 2011, 09:06:52 PM
And, even if that was your "hobby" why on earth would you need to print it out and save it?  IMO, these people are sick.

No reason to print it that I can see.   Perhaps they were reading together & taking notes.

Even in the cases we follow, today its just as easy to set up a document file and save it to memory, be it computer, flash drive, external hard drive.   I'd say why waste the money on paper & ink but Billie printed it from work using their resources.    What else is on that computer she used?
Great question Capp, might be a good idea for LE to do a little search of her work computer(s)!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cookie on March 22, 2011, 10:14:16 PM
And, even if that was your "hobby" why on earth would you need to print it out and save it?  IMO, these people are sick.

No reason to print it that I can see.   Perhaps they were reading together & taking notes.

Even in the cases we follow, today its just as easy to set up a document file and save it to memory, be it computer, flash drive, external hard drive.   I'd say why waste the money on paper & ink but Billie printed it from work using their resources.    What else is on that computer she used?
Great question Capp, might be a good idea for LE to do a little search of her work computer(s)!

I bet they already have checked out her work computers..at least I hope that they have!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on March 22, 2011, 10:33:16 PM
Evening monks !
I am home in time to shower and drop in bed !

Does anyone know if the DUNN cemetery behind Shawn's G'ma's home
has been searched ? New graves, old ones, any disturbed areas of soil ?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 22, 2011, 10:55:27 PM
::HelloKitty::

Hi joesamas mama.  I hope you are having a good day.

My plans outside the computer room changed from this morning to this afternoon.  Friend had unexpected company.

I am now off.

Later, Janet
11:55 AM PT

  ::HelloKitty:: Hi Janet, hope you are having a good day as well. Have a good afternoon, maybe when you come back there will be breaking news of an arrest.

Maybe tomorrow joesamas mama.

On many levels all the affidavits are so incriminating on yet ... Shawn and Billie are still have not been detain on even one charge.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet
 



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 22, 2011, 11:16:18 PM
And, even if that was your "hobby" why on earth would you need to print it out and save it?  IMO, these people are sick.

No reason to print it that I can see.   Perhaps they were reading together & taking notes.

Even in the cases we follow, today its just as easy to set up a document file and save it to memory, be it computer, flash drive, external hard drive.   I'd say why waste the money on paper & ink but Billie printed it from work using their resources.    What else is on that computer she used?
Great question Capp, might be a good idea for LE to do a little search of her work computer(s)!

I bet they already have checked out her work computers..at least I hope that they have!
::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Shell on March 22, 2011, 11:42:34 PM
honestly, I would be too scared to ever lie to a police officer!
Billie is so addicted to this creepy guy!
I wish that she would put in  as much time to try to find Hailey as she puts into  sneaking around to be with  Shawn... ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

Knowing what we know about Shawn, can you imagine their "private times"? I wonder if he wears the mask, and if so she must get off to it. I am making myself sick..ewww ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Shell on March 22, 2011, 11:57:42 PM


Billie Dunn's New Attorney Acknowledges His Client's Mistakes
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27270724/detail.html
 ::snipping2::
There was also a published report that Dunn was no longer speaking to the media.

However, Young corrected that statement by saying she will continue doing interviews – but only if her legal counsel is also there. ::snipping2::

Well, at least he knows his client well enough that she can't resist the media...



Another media ho!!   A few comments about statements Young made in above linked article:

"There was some discussion with law enforcement that being anyway associated with this person was somehow going to taint her and somehow get her charged with a crime," Young said.
This may suggest why Mitchell County Sheriff Partick Toombs announced that Adkins and Dunn were spotted together over the weekend, he said.



What is Young suggesting that they lied?   That LE tried to coerce her to stay away from SA?    If he wished she had legal representation much sooner, why didnt he step up then?

"I wish she hadn't told police Mr. Adkins wasn't there, but I wait anxiously for what incredible information comes from that warrant," he said.

Quite frankly it doesnt matter one bit what the search warrant states or what they wanted from Shawn, that is regarding his client.   The fact is she lied to LE that he was there, the reason they asked is irrelevant.

Young said this wasn't the only instance of law enforcement having an unfair advantage. He said officers intentionally arrested Dunn at night so she was unable to bond out until the next day – then the questioned her from 8 p.m. to midnight.
"I think it was not a mistake ... that Ms. Dunn was arrested after 8 when there was not a judge to magistrate her," he said. "She was unable to get a bond, so they were able to chat with her for a while whether she wanted to or not."


O please, here we go....my client was not treated properly, she was denied her rights blah blah blah.    Young should know better, LE had to have given her Miranda rights & further ask her if she wanted to talk voluntarily....it didnt work for Bozo, it wont work for you dude!

Young corrected that statement by saying she will continue doing interviews – but only if her legal counsel is also there.     

Makeup, please!

Billie CHOSE to lie to LE.
Billie consented to a search of her home that she KNEW would reveal SHE'D LIED about Shawn not being there.  The search of her home also allowed the finding of the prescription bottle "with her name torn off"...

If she had told the truth, and Shawn had come out to talk to LE instead of hiding behind her...no search of her home would have been required.

BTW...wonder why Billie's name was torn off the prescription bottle??????  ::MonkeyWink::

Better choices by Billie and Shawn = no arrest of Billie.   ::MonkeyTongue::

JMO

If the name was torn off, how would anyone know it was Billie's name that was torn off?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 23, 2011, 12:24:45 AM


Billie Dunn's New Attorney Acknowledges His Client's Mistakes
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27270724/detail.html
 ::snipping2::
There was also a published report that Dunn was no longer speaking to the media.

However, Young corrected that statement by saying she will continue doing interviews – but only if her legal counsel is also there. ::snipping2::

Well, at least he knows his client well enough that she can't resist the media...



Another media ho!!   A few comments about statements Young made in above linked article:

"There was some discussion with law enforcement that being anyway associated with this person was somehow going to taint her and somehow get her charged with a crime," Young said.
This may suggest why Mitchell County Sheriff Partick Toombs announced that Adkins and Dunn were spotted together over the weekend, he said.



What is Young suggesting that they lied?   That LE tried to coerce her to stay away from SA?    If he wished she had legal representation much sooner, why didnt he step up then?

"I wish she hadn't told police Mr. Adkins wasn't there, but I wait anxiously for what incredible information comes from that warrant," he said.

Quite frankly it doesnt matter one bit what the search warrant states or what they wanted from Shawn, that is regarding his client.   The fact is she lied to LE that he was there, the reason they asked is irrelevant.

Young said this wasn't the only instance of law enforcement having an unfair advantage. He said officers intentionally arrested Dunn at night so she was unable to bond out until the next day – then the questioned her from 8 p.m. to midnight.
"I think it was not a mistake ... that Ms. Dunn was arrested after 8 when there was not a judge to magistrate her," he said. "She was unable to get a bond, so they were able to chat with her for a while whether she wanted to or not."


O please, here we go....my client was not treated properly, she was denied her rights blah blah blah.    Young should know better, LE had to have given her Miranda rights & further ask her if she wanted to talk voluntarily....it didnt work for Bozo, it wont work for you dude!

Young corrected that statement by saying she will continue doing interviews – but only if her legal counsel is also there.     

Makeup, please!

Billie CHOSE to lie to LE.
Billie consented to a search of her home that she KNEW would reveal SHE'D LIED about Shawn not being there.  The search of her home also allowed the finding of the prescription bottle "with her name torn off"...

If she had told the truth, and Shawn had come out to talk to LE instead of hiding behind her...no search of her home would have been required.

BTW...wonder why Billie's name was torn off the prescription bottle??????  ::MonkeyWink::

Better choices by Billie and Shawn = no arrest of Billie.   ::MonkeyTongue::

JMO

If the name was torn off, how would anyone know it was Billie's name that was torn off?

It was just a name torn off, they can match it up to the pharmacy, script #, doctor and date


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 23, 2011, 12:26:11 AM
honestly, I would be too scared to ever lie to a police officer!
Billie is so addicted to this creepy guy!
I wish that she would put in  as much time to try to find Hailey as she puts into  sneaking around to be with  Shawn... ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

Knowing what we know about Shawn, can you imagine their "private times"? I wonder if he wears the mask, and if so she must get off to it. I am making myself sick..ewww ::MonkeyEek::

Shell, honestly I lubs ya but dang now I wont be able to sleep trying to shake that vision outta my head...ewww


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: melisb on March 23, 2011, 12:40:29 AM
Hey Shell and Cappy...maybe one night soon while SA is wearing the mask and weilding a butcher knife at the same time they'll get too carried away and he'll 'accidentally' stab BD through the heart!  Now that would be a fairy tale ending to beat all others for me!                             ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Thunder_Sis on March 23, 2011, 01:19:29 AM
The blade would break when it hit the solid rock stone she calls a heart.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 23, 2011, 02:14:08 AM

I wonder if the Grand Jury is still meeting on March 24th as was announced earlier.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on March 23, 2011, 04:30:34 AM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27270724/detail.html

"Young is able to speak on Dunn's behalf and, as the mother of missing teen Hailey Dunn, there's a lot to be explained. For example, he said: Whose idea was it to file the no trespassing order against the only suspect in the case and Dunn's former live-in boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.? "
.....
Isn't Hailey's disappearance a concern ?
Or is it that Billie got pizzed, was loaded on drugs and made a decision she now regrets, getting the NT order ? Guess they will try to have that undone. Doubt if Grandma or Mumma wants Billie and Shawn shacked up at their houses.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Shell on March 23, 2011, 05:39:12 AM
Hey Shell and Cappy...maybe one night soon while SA is wearing the mask and weilding a butcher knife at the same time they'll get too carried away and he'll 'accidentally' stab BD through the heart!  Now that would be a fairy tale ending to beat all others for me!                             ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyShocked:: I just do not know what to say! I think you could be onto something
 ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Shell on March 23, 2011, 05:41:13 AM
honestly, I would be too scared to ever lie to a police officer!
Billie is so addicted to this creepy guy!
I wish that she would put in  as much time to try to find Hailey as she puts into  sneaking around to be with  Shawn... ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

Knowing what we know about Shawn, can you imagine their "private times"? I wonder if he wears the mask, and if so she must get off to it. I am making myself sick..ewww ::MonkeyEek::

Shell, honestly I lubs ya but dang now I wont be able to sleep trying to shake that vision outta my head...ewww

I know what you mean...but it popped into my head as I was reading the posts of all the things they printed off...and now I need it to pop out of my head,,, :2brickwall:


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Shell on March 23, 2011, 05:46:47 AM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27270724/detail.html

"Young is able to speak on Dunn's behalf and, as the mother of missing teen Hailey Dunn, there's a lot to be explained. For example, he said: Whose idea was it to file the no trespassing order against the only suspect in the case and Dunn's former live-in boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.? "
.....
Isn't Hailey's disappearance a concern ?
Or is it that Billie got pizzed, was loaded on drugs and made a decision she now regrets, getting the NT order ? Guess they will try to have that undone. Doubt if Grandma or Mumma wants Billie and Shawn shacked up at their houses.


Well apparently Shawn's Mumma doesn't much supervise what is going on under her roof. My guess is they will meet up at the Motel6  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 23, 2011, 09:10:24 AM


Billie Dunn's New Attorney Acknowledges His Client's Mistakes
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27270724/detail.html
 ::snipping2::
There was also a published report that Dunn was no longer speaking to the media.

However, Young corrected that statement by saying she will continue doing interviews – but only if her legal counsel is also there. ::snipping2::

Well, at least he knows his client well enough that she can't resist the media...



Another media ho!!   A few comments about statements Young made in above linked article:

"There was some discussion with law enforcement that being anyway associated with this person was somehow going to taint her and somehow get her charged with a crime," Young said.
This may suggest why Mitchell County Sheriff Partick Toombs announced that Adkins and Dunn were spotted together over the weekend, he said.



What is Young suggesting that they lied?   That LE tried to coerce her to stay away from SA?    If he wished she had legal representation much sooner, why didnt he step up then?

"I wish she hadn't told police Mr. Adkins wasn't there, but I wait anxiously for what incredible information comes from that warrant," he said.

Quite frankly it doesnt matter one bit what the search warrant states or what they wanted from Shawn, that is regarding his client.   The fact is she lied to LE that he was there, the reason they asked is irrelevant.

Young said this wasn't the only instance of law enforcement having an unfair advantage. He said officers intentionally arrested Dunn at night so she was unable to bond out until the next day – then the questioned her from 8 p.m. to midnight.
"I think it was not a mistake ... that Ms. Dunn was arrested after 8 when there was not a judge to magistrate her," he said. "She was unable to get a bond, so they were able to chat with her for a while whether she wanted to or not."


O please, here we go....my client was not treated properly, she was denied her rights blah blah blah.    Young should know better, LE had to have given her Miranda rights & further ask her if she wanted to talk voluntarily....it didnt work for Bozo, it wont work for you dude!

Young corrected that statement by saying she will continue doing interviews – but only if her legal counsel is also there.     

Makeup, please!

Billie CHOSE to lie to LE.
Billie consented to a search of her home that she KNEW would reveal SHE'D LIED about Shawn not being there.  The search of her home also allowed the finding of the prescription bottle "with her name torn off"...

If she had told the truth, and Shawn had come out to talk to LE instead of hiding behind her...no search of her home would have been required.

BTW...wonder why Billie's name was torn off the prescription bottle??????  ::MonkeyWink::

Better choices by Billie and Shawn = no arrest of Billie.   ::MonkeyTongue::

JMO

If the name was torn off, how would anyone know it was Billie's name that was torn off?

It was just a name torn off, they can match it up to the pharmacy, script #, doctor and date

This is the format of a typical prescription bottle.  If she only took off the name, that would have taken some time and effort.  It would have been faster to just flush them unless the alteration of the label had been done previous to LE showing up at her door.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 23, 2011, 11:11:37 AM
OVERVIEW - POSTED ARTICLES/LINKS - MARCH 21/22

Mother Of Missing Teen Now Represented By Legal Counsel
POSTED: 4:34 pm CDT March 21, 2011
UPDATED: 7:16 am CDT March 22, 2011

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27268142/detail.html


Hailey's Mother Hires Attorney, No Longer Speaking to Media
Monday, March 21 2011

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756


Attorney Says Adkins Smart For Getting "Lawyered Up"
Tuesday, January 18 2011

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332256


Affidavits: Adkins Search Warrants Linked to Child Porn
Monday, March 21 2011

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353726


Attorney for Billie Dunn Speaks for His Client
Monday, March 21 2011

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=354006


Billie Dunn's New Attorney Acknowledges His Client's Mistakes
By Jocelyn Tovar, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:08 pm CDT March 21, 2011
UPDATED: 7:53 am CDT March 22, 2011

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27270724/detail.html


Affidavit of Search Warrarts
March 18, 2011

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27270724/detail.html


4/15/10
Two postal service employees indicted by federal grand jury
Posted: Apr 15, 2010 1:49 PM PDT

http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=12319610&clienttype=printable


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 23, 2011, 01:08:49 PM
OVERVIEW - POSTED ARTICLES/LINKS - MARCH 21/22

Mother Of Missing Teen Now Represented By Legal Counsel
POSTED: 4:34 pm CDT March 21, 2011
UPDATED: 7:16 am CDT March 22, 2011

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27268142/detail.html


Hailey's Mother Hires Attorney, No Longer Speaking to Media
Monday, March 21 2011

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756


Attorney Says Adkins Smart For Getting "Lawyered Up"
Tuesday, January 18 2011

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332256


Affidavits: Adkins Search Warrants Linked to Child Porn
Monday, March 21 2011

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353726


Attorney for Billie Dunn Speaks for His Client
Monday, March 21 2011

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=354006


Billie Dunn's New Attorney Acknowledges His Client's Mistakes
By Jocelyn Tovar, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:08 pm CDT March 21, 2011
UPDATED: 7:53 am CDT March 22, 2011

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27270724/detail.html


Affidavit of Search Warrarts
March 18, 2011

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27270724/detail.html


4/15/10
Two postal service employees indicted by federal grand jury
Posted: Apr 15, 2010 1:49 PM PDT

http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=12319610&clienttype=printable

Catchup Reading

Billie Dunn Hires an Attorney Following Arrest 3/22/11
CBS 7 News
March 21, 2011

http://www.cbs7kosa.com/news/details.asp?ID=24386


Officials: Billie Dunn filed trespass warning against Adkins
Published Monday, March 21, 2011

http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/21/officials-dunn-filed-trespass-warning-against/


Billie Dunn, mother of missing TX teen, lawyers up, sees boyfriend over weekend
March 21st, 2011 4:24 pm ET

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/billie-dunn-mother-of-missing-tx-teen-lawyers-up-sees-boyfriend-over-weekend


Mother Of Missing Teen Now Represented By Legal Counsel
By Jacqueline Hince, KTXS News
POSTED: 4:34 pm CDT March 21, 2011
UPDATED: 7:16 am CDT March 22, 2011

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27268142/detail.html


Missing Teen’s Mom Files Protective Order Against Former Boyfriend
March 11, 2011

http://www.newswest9.com/Global/story.asp?S=14292831


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 23, 2011, 01:23:08 PM
REMINDER

The Bring Them Home Now EXCLUSIVE RICHY COOPER /DUNN CASE ....

Upcoming Show: 23/03/2011 5:00 PM 
Call-in Number: (323) 417-6851


++++++


Description:
Richy Cooper Hailey Dunn's uncle will speak out on Hailley's disapearance on Dec. 27th 2010. Richy Cooper will give new inforamtion and a different perpective into what has happened to Hailey! ....

<snipped>

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/23/the-bring-them-home-now-exclusive-richy-cooper-and-missing-billy-disilvestro-serial-killer-on-the-lo



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 23, 2011, 02:56:42 PM
Billie Dunn's own words to the media made it very clear why she filed a protective order against Shawn Adkins.  Does it matter if the filing was Billie's idea or ... was at the suggestion of investigators?

Janet

+++++

John Young

Billie Dunn's New Attorney Acknowledges His Client's MistakesBy Jocelyn Tovar, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:08 pm CDT March 21, 2011
UPDATED: 7:53 am CDT March 22, 2011


<snipped>

"There were several times during the investigation that I wished she'd had a lawyer," Young said.

Young is able to speak on Dunn's behalf and, as the mother of missing teen Hailey Dunn, there's a lot to be explained. For example, he said: Whose idea was it to file the no trespassing order against the only suspect in the case and Dunn's former live-in boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.

"There was some discussion with law enforcement that being anyway associated with this person was somehow going to taint her and somehow get her charged with a crime," Young said.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27270724/detail.html


Billie Dunn

Dunn Gives Reason For No-Trespassing Order Against Adkins
Saturday, March 19 2011


<snipped>

The mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn said she filed a no trespassing order against her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.

Billie Dunn said investigators found disturbing messages about her in Adkins' cell phone Thursday. She didn't wish to go into detail, but described the content as "threatening."

Dunn said Adkins can't come on her property for a year under the order she filed Friday.

"He made threats against me. I don't think he sent them anywhere. They were just on the memo pad...I got scared and I didn't want him to be able to come over here at all anymore," she said.

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353486
 



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 23, 2011, 03:16:39 PM
Billie Dunn's own words to the media made it very clear why she filed a protective order against Shawn Adkins.  Does it matter if the filing was Billie's idea or ... was at the suggestion of investigators?

Janet

+++++

John Young

Billie Dunn's New Attorney Acknowledges His Client's MistakesBy Jocelyn Tovar, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:08 pm CDT March 21, 2011
UPDATED: 7:53 am CDT March 22, 2011


<snipped>

"There were several times during the investigation that I wished she'd had a lawyer," Young said.

Young is able to speak on Dunn's behalf and, as the mother of missing teen Hailey Dunn, there's a lot to be explained. For example, he said: Whose idea was it to file the no trespassing order against the only suspect in the case and Dunn's former live-in boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.

"There was some discussion with law enforcement that being anyway associated with this person was somehow going to taint her and somehow get her charged with a crime," Young said.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27270724/detail.html


Billie Dunn

Dunn Gives Reason For No-Trespassing Order Against Adkins
Saturday, March 19 2011


<snipped>

The mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn said she filed a no trespassing order against her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.

Billie Dunn said investigators found disturbing messages about her in Adkins' cell phone Thursday. She didn't wish to go into detail, but described the content as "threatening."

Dunn said Adkins can't come on her property for a year under the order she filed Friday.

"He made threats against me. I don't think he sent them anywhere. They were just on the memo pad...I got scared and I didn't want him to be able to come over here at all anymore," she said.

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353486
 



I wonder why she didn't do this before when he verbally threatened not only her but Hailey.  Not only did she not file for a PO at that time, she let him move back in with her and her children. 

BJD's problem is that she has zero credibility.  She is the little boy who cried wolf all over again.  Too little and far too late for me.   ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 23, 2011, 03:17:57 PM
On p. 3 of the Affidavit, Flournoy says that he is assisting le "in the investigation of the disapperance of Hailey Dunn."
Also, on p. 3, an image of child porn on Renee's computer appears to be "very similar" to an image found on Christine's computer.

http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf

Yup, that is a direct reference to CP and Hailey's disappearance combined.

Ugh, mom to grandma's computers, sick Sugar Honey Ice Tea!

I also noticed as I suspected several computers including a laptop.    I have always said that there is no way that Shawn & Billie went without a computer considering the enormity of evidence.    I've always suspected that a computer was moved out of Billie's house...remains to be seen if ever.

BD also kept referring to "that" computer, as if there were more than one, and "that" memory stick, etc.  I figured they had more, too, and that the way she spoke of them that SA hasn't been the only one on the other computers.  Of course she has her computers at work, but  **surely** the wench wasn't so dumb that she downloaded anything off of there, other than their fun fun fun little crime goodies for beddie bye time.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 23, 2011, 03:22:50 PM
Been a while since I've read the 7 page affidavit signed on January 7, 2011 by LE.  Looking back besides flunking the polygraphs, Shawn deleted the texts on his cell phone right in front of LE.  Then there are the pages of stuff printed out.  Their HOBBY.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=21&ved=0CBcQFjAAOBQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.reporternews.com%2Fmedia%2Fstatic%2F0113_001_.pdf&rct=j&q=%22shawn%20casey%20adkins%22&ei=2D2JTcHdGaOz0QG4xqDfDQ&usg=AFQjCNEJPBf5fLhyzMZJO4jHo3DowPV-NQ&cad=rja (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=21&ved=0CBcQFjAAOBQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.reporternews.com%2Fmedia%2Fstatic%2F0113_001_.pdf&rct=j&q=%22shawn%20casey%20adkins%22&ei=2D2JTcHdGaOz0QG4xqDfDQ&usg=AFQjCNEJPBf5fLhyzMZJO4jHo3DowPV-NQ&cad=rja)

 ::snipping2::


Yea, their hobby looking up stuff about serial killers, family annihilators including pre-pubertal, occult killings....makes one wonder why considering the circumstances & especially with the sexual deprivation.

He removed text and images is my understanding.

The thing that really always bothered me about that is the location of the printed materials - under their bed.  I will admit that I have had an interest in the minds of people like Jack the Ripper, and other criminals.  When I read about them, usually I read in bed.  So those materials would be beside my bed - like most peoples' reading materials are.  I'm going to be blunt here - under the bed is usually where things of a more "adult" interest go, aren't they really?  And also, there seemed to be a preponderance of material concerning sexually related crimes, families (read as 'children'), etc - hidden under the bed, easy access to the bed.  That right there sent up enough red flags upon first reading to fill a room.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 23, 2011, 03:26:44 PM
Evening monks !
I am home in time to shower and drop in bed !

Does anyone know if the DUNN cemetery behind Shawn's G'ma's home
has been searched ? New graves, old ones, any disturbed areas of soil ?

  I'm going off of memory on this one, so bear with me - no links to provide.
My understanding was that early in this situation a cursory search was done of the cemetary.  Scuttlebutt seems to indicate that there might have been new graves or new dirt on graves, but that has always seemed to me more of the urban-legend type discussion and less witnesses in the area.  I keep hearing this same question come up time and time again with no really clear anwer at all; I would love to hear a clear answer, too.

I hope my posts make any sense today.  I am sick as a dog with some cold/bronchitis and poison ivy, so I apologize if any of my posts make you just go "wait, what???"  I missed my monkey buddies most of yesterday and darned if I was going to go another day without y'all!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 23, 2011, 04:07:50 PM
Billie Dunn's own words to the media made it very clear why she filed a protective order against Shawn Adkins.  Does it matter if the filing was Billie's idea or ... was at the suggestion of investigators?

Janet

+++++

John Young

Billie Dunn's New Attorney Acknowledges His Client's MistakesBy Jocelyn Tovar, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:08 pm CDT March 21, 2011
UPDATED: 7:53 am CDT March 22, 2011


<snipped>

"There were several times during the investigation that I wished she'd had a lawyer," Young said.

Young is able to speak on Dunn's behalf and, as the mother of missing teen Hailey Dunn, there's a lot to be explained. For example, he said: Whose idea was it to file the no trespassing order against the only suspect in the case and Dunn's former live-in boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.

"There was some discussion with law enforcement that being anyway associated with this person was somehow going to taint her and somehow get her charged with a crime," Young said.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27270724/detail.html


Billie Dunn

Dunn Gives Reason For No-Trespassing Order Against Adkins
Saturday, March 19 2011


<snipped>

The mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn said she filed a no trespassing order against her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.

Billie Dunn said investigators found disturbing messages about her in Adkins' cell phone Thursday. She didn't wish to go into detail, but described the content as "threatening."

Dunn said Adkins can't come on her property for a year under the order she filed Friday.

"He made threats against me. I don't think he sent them anywhere. They were just on the memo pad...I got scared and I didn't want him to be able to come over here at all anymore," she said.

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353486
 



I wonder why she didn't do this before when he verbally threatened not only her but Hailey.  Not only did she not file for a PO at that time, she let him move back in with her and her children. 

BJD's problem is that she has zero credibility.  She is the little boy who cried wolf all over again.  Too little and far too late for me.   ::CowboySmiley::

Flutter

My point.  When it is considered that Billy Dunn's attorney states one reason for the filing of the no-trespassing order while Billy states another ... stories in the Hailey Dunn case are once again being manipulated.

I somehow believe that LE did suggest that Billie file a no-trespassing order based on the  threatening words in the notepad ... a no-trespassing order to keep Shawn away from the home but ... Billie's appeasing compliance did not imply she had any intention of not having contact with Shawn.

Janet

+++++

Together Again

Hailey's Mother Hires Attorney, No Longer Speaking to Media
Monday, March 21 2011


Monday, 2:15 p.m. Update:
According to the Snyder Daily News, an entry on the blotter at the Scurry County Law Enforcement Center Sunday afternoon stated a woman called and asked to speak to an officer on the telephone in reference to both Dunn and Adkins being together at the caller’s residence looking for someone.

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 23, 2011, 04:35:15 PM
Evening monks !
I am home in time to shower and drop in bed !

Does anyone know if the DUNN cemetery behind Shawn's G'ma's home
has been searched ? New graves, old ones, any disturbed areas of soil ?

  I'm going off of memory on this one, so bear with me - no links to provide.
My understanding was that early in this situation a cursory search was done of the cemetary.  Scuttlebutt seems to indicate that there might have been new graves or new dirt on graves, but that has always seemed to me more of the urban-legend type discussion and less witnesses in the area.  I keep hearing this same question come up time and time again with no really clear anwer at all; I would love to hear a clear answer, too.

I hope my posts make any sense today.  I am sick as a dog with some cold/bronchitis and poison ivy, so I apologize if any of my posts make you just go "wait, what???"  I missed my monkey buddies most of yesterday and darned if I was going to go another day without y'all!

I just got over that bout of cold/bronchitis.  Over the counter Non-drowsy Sudafed helped me through it.  Lipton's Chicken Noodle soup was the only food that felt good going down.

starwynn ... I hope you are feeling well soon.

I hope investigators in the Hailey Dunn case considered the location of Grandma's house in relation to the cemetery in the many searches.

Janet



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 23, 2011, 06:42:48 PM
Shawn has a new attorney.

Link to a PDF of his letter to Big Country Homepage at this link.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=354716


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 23, 2011, 07:35:32 PM
Shawn has a new attorney.

Link to a PDF of his letter to Big Country Homepage at this link.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=354716

When did Shawn Adkin change attorneys.  Could it be that Sidney Lyle and C. Barrett Thomas are partners in the same law firm?

Janet

++++


Sidney Lyle

Attorney for Dunn Suspect Says Adkins Wrongfully Accused
esday, January 19 2011


The attorney representing suspect Shawn Adkins in the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn says his client has been wrongfully accused.

Attorney Sidney Lyle, of Odessa, spoke with bigcountryhomepage.com over the phone earlier today but declined requests to have the conversation recorded for playback. Lyle also said he didn't feel it was time to do an on camera interview.

Lyle acknowledged that he was Adkins' attorney. He also confirmed he's told his client not to speak with anyone about the case.

During the call, Lyle said he felt he was making some progress in the case but said law enforcement needed to get farther into their investigation before he could comment about where things stood. He noted his client has been wrongfully accused.

Lyle seemed to indicate he would be making a statement on Adkins' behalf or be willing to do an interview alongside Adkins sometime in the near future.

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332986


C. Barrett Thomas

Adkins' Attorney: Investigators Not Focused on Finding Hailey
Wednesday, March 23 2011


The attorney of the only named suspect in the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn has issued a statement that says law enforcement isn't interested in cooperation in the case.

A letter from attorney C. Barrett Thomas of Abilene says Shawn Adkins has continued to speak with law enforcement despite the attorney's advice. Thomas says Adkins believes in his heart that cooperation is the "key to solving Hailey's disappearance."

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=354716
 




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 23, 2011, 07:40:41 PM
Shawn has a new attorney.

Link to a PDF of his letter to Big Country Homepage at this link.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=354716

Poor lawyer!  lol


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 23, 2011, 07:44:31 PM
REMINDER

The Bring Them Home Now EXCLUSIVE RICHY COOPER /DUNN CASE ....

Upcoming Show: 23/03/2011 5:00 PM 
Call-in Number: (323) 417-6851


++++++


Description:
Richy Cooper Hailey Dunn's uncle will speak out on Hailley's disapearance on Dec. 27th 2010. Richy Cooper will give new inforamtion and a different perpective into what has happened to Hailey! ....

<snipped>

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/23/the-bring-them-home-now-exclusive-richy-cooper-and-missing-billy-disilvestro-serial-killer-on-the-lo



Has Richy Cooper already been interviewed?

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 23, 2011, 07:45:02 PM
I just got over that bout of cold/bronchitis.  Over the counter Non-drowsy Sudafed helped me through it.  Lipton's Chicken Noodle soup was the only food that felt good going down.

starwynn ... I hope you are feeling well soon.

I hope investigators in the Hailey Dunn case considered the location of Grandma's house in relation to the cemetery in the many searches.

Janet

I got mine from running around the pasture calling out for my cat when I thought a local roaming pit bull got him.  I admit - when I was sobbing over my cat, thinking about how first thing in the morning I was going to post signs everywhere, and should I call the emergency vet right then... I thought about BD not leaving her house for her daughter.  It really struck me.  Something's wrong there.

Thank God, I bought a tub of pistachio jello ambrosia, and that's what I have been eating.  I think I have enough redbull to make it through Richey Cooper's interview tonight.  :)  I would like to hear if he still feels the same as he did before about his theory about Hailey.

I am glad I got on today to see about Shawn's change of lawyer.  I wonder if that will bring changes to the handling of his case?  Should get interesting.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 23, 2011, 07:46:19 PM
Argh - I am typing sideways, in bed, on a computer that randomly throws my curson up into different places, and makes decisions for me - apparently including hitting enter.

I wanted to add thank you, Janet, for the well-wishes.  Are you going to listen tonight, or wait for the transcript?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 23, 2011, 08:00:10 PM
I just got over that bout of cold/bronchitis.  Over the counter Non-drowsy Sudafed helped me through it.  Lipton's Chicken Noodle soup was the only food that felt good going down.

starwynn ... I hope you are feeling well soon.

I hope investigators in the Hailey Dunn case considered the location of Grandma's house in relation to the cemetery in the many searches.

Janet

I got mine from running around the pasture calling out for my cat when I thought a local roaming pit bull got him.  I admit - when I was sobbing over my cat, thinking about how first thing in the morning I was going to post signs everywhere, and should I call the emergency vet right then... I thought about BD not leaving her house for her daughter.  It really struck me.  Something's wrong there.

Thank God, I bought a tub of pistachio jello ambrosia, and that's what I have been eating.  I think I have enough redbull to make it through Richey Cooper's interview tonight.  :)  I would like to hear if he still feels the same as he did before about his theory about Hailey.

I am glad I got on today to see about Shawn's change of lawyer.  I wonder if that will bring changes to the handling of his case?  Should get interesting.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

1.  starwynn ... did you find your cat.

2.  Pistachio Jello Ambrosia!!  I will try some of that the next time I am sick.

3.  I think I may have missed Richy Cooper.  I will listen later.

4.  It has been almost three months.  I would think that investigators should have enough cell phone evidence to put together a case ... cellphone evidence which reveal that Shawn Adkins was deceptive to authorities regarding his actions and whereabouts on the morning of December 27th.  Then there is the 2:00 PM text message to Mary Beth.  Then there is the child porn.

Take care starwynn.

Janet







Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 23, 2011, 08:04:40 PM
REMINDER

The Bring Them Home Now EXCLUSIVE RICHY COOPER /DUNN CASE ....

Upcoming Show: 23/03/2011 5:00 PM 
Call-in Number: (323) 417-6851


++++++


Description:
Richy Cooper Hailey Dunn's uncle will speak out on Hailley's disapearance on Dec. 27th 2010. Richy Cooper will give new inforamtion and a different perpective into what has happened to Hailey! ....

<snipped>

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/23/the-bring-them-home-now-exclusive-richy-cooper-and-missing-billy-disilvestro-serial-killer-on-the-lo



Has Richy Cooper already been interviewed?

Janet

Richy Cooper is on right now!!!

Janet
5:05 PM PT


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 23, 2011, 08:17:30 PM
BNHN

Richy Cooper:  Clint does not want me to bad mouth Billie.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 23, 2011, 08:49:42 PM
BNHN

Richy Cooper:  Clint does not want me to bad mouth Billie.

Richy Cooper:

My opinion.
Shawn did it.
Shawn tried something of a sexual nature and killed Hailey.
Billie wasn't involved but she knows.
Billie could be scared of Shawn.
Clint is not going to be happy with me.

 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 23, 2011, 08:52:47 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=354716

Adkins' Attorney: Investigators Not Focused on Finding Hailey

Reported by: Austin Kellerman
Wednesday, March 23 2011

The attorney of the only named suspect in the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn has issued a statement that says law enforcement isn't interested in cooperation in the case.

A letter from attorney C. Barrett Thomas of Abilene says Shawn Adkins has continued to speak with law enforcement despite the attorney's advice. Thomas says Adkins believes in his heart that cooperation is the "key to solving Hailey's disappearance."

Adkins is the former boyfriend of Hailey Dunn's mother.
 ::snipping2::

Link to letter:
http://www.bigcountryhomepage.com/images/Multi_Media/bigcountryhomepage/nxd_media/dox/pdf/2011_03/Atkins.PDF (http://www.bigcountryhomepage.com/images/Multi_Media/bigcountryhomepage/nxd_media/dox/pdf/2011_03/Atkins.PDF)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 23, 2011, 08:57:04 PM
The Thomas Firm's website is still under construction:

http://www.thomasfirm.biz/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 23, 2011, 08:59:13 PM
Thank you BTHN!  Thank you Richy Cooper!!

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 23, 2011, 09:09:58 PM

 ::MonkeyShocked::

1.  starwynn ... did you find your cat.

2.  Pistachio Jello Ambrosia!!  I will try some of that the next time I am sick.

3.  I think I may have missed Richy Cooper.  I will listen later.

4.  It has been almost three months.  I would think that investigators should have enough cell phone evidence to put together a case ... cellphone evidence which reveal that Shawn Adkins was deceptive to authorities regarding his actions and whereabouts on the morning of December 27th.  Then there is the 2:00 PM text message to Mary Beth.  Then there is the child porn.

Take care starwynn.

Janet

LOL, Ok Miss ORganized.  1.  Yes - the little snot had gotten into my cabinet and slept the night away there cozily while I screeched inside and outside the house for him.  (He's making it up to me by sleeping on my chest all day today like a heating pad.)
2.  It's good stuff!  I didn't even know it existed.  It makes the throat feel nice.
3.  It was a wowzer show, Janet.  Be sure to catch the transcript when it comes up, or the show.  He's well-spoken and believable.
4.  I realize that all t's have to be crossed, and i's dotted, but I'm like you; as soon as there is one bit of evidence, I think he should be arrested and the rest of the evidence can come in as they get it.  I despise child porn - don't care if it's the person who has it or makes it, all are abusers and scum.  I will be more relieved when I hear LE's reasoning after the fact, of course.  I have a modicum of faith in them, but I do want to see things being done.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 23, 2011, 09:10:53 PM
The Thomas Firm's website is still under construction:

http://www.thomasfirm.biz/

He has only been member of the bar for two years!! 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 23, 2011, 09:14:57 PM
Thank you BTHN!  Thank you Richy Cooper!!

Janet

Oh Janet, I'm glad you got to catch it!  There were some WonderMonkeysTM in chat, I see.  :)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cookie on March 23, 2011, 09:23:53 PM
honestly, I would be too scared to ever lie to a police officer!
Billie is so addicted to this creepy guy!
I wish that she would put in  as much time to try to find Hailey as she puts into  sneaking around to be with  Shawn... ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

Knowing what we know about Shawn, can you imagine their "private times"? I wonder if he wears the mask, and if so she must get off to it. I am making myself sick..ewww ::MonkeyEek::

Shell, honestly I lubs ya but dang now I wont be able to sleep trying to shake that vision outta my head...ewww

I know right? lol...I almost puked in my own mouth thinking about it....


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 23, 2011, 10:15:09 PM
Thank you BTHN!  Thank you Richy Cooper!!

Janet

Oh Janet, I'm glad you got to catch it!  There were some WonderMonkeysTM in chat, I see.  :)

Considering Richy Cooper was the second guest ... I did not miss him as I had thought originally.

I caught the end of the interview of the first guest and ... my heart broke.

Anyways ... I will listen to this evening's BTHN again ... maybe tomorrow.  I am hoping a transcript emerges.

We are off to our neighbors shortly for a board game.  It is my turn to provide the goodies to go with tea/coffee.  Thank Heaven for Safeway bakery.

Janet
7:15 PM PT





Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: melisb on March 23, 2011, 11:46:06 PM
Being a computer dummy I sometimes don't know how to navigate certain sites.  Too late to listen to RC now so I hope Cappy gets over here soon with some dish! Star get to feeling better!  Us rednecks in N. FL call what you are eating Green Chit!  No lie!  It's the pudding/pinapple/nut/marshmallow fluffy stuff right? Deelish!  Maybe if Cappy can't get over, then the transcript will come up in the wee hours or at least before I go to work in am.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 24, 2011, 12:24:36 AM
Being a computer dummy I sometimes don't know how to navigate certain sites.  Too late to listen to RC now so I hope Cappy gets over here soon with some dish! Star get to feeling better!  Us rednecks in N. FL call what you are eating Green Chit!  No lie!  It's the pudding/pinapple/nut/marshmallow fluffy stuff right? Deelish!  Maybe if Cappy can't get over, then the transcript will come up in the wee hours or at least before I go to work in am.

OMG that's exactly what I'm eating!  I had a fever, and the little green marshmallows were freaking me out.  It was really funny, and reminded me of another reason I could never do drugs. :)  Green Chit!  My midwestern boyfriend thinks it's weird; I had to explain that it's a southern thing.

Yeah Capp was awesome, the conversation .... well I'd say it was revealing, but really it was just what we all have suspected and keeps getting denied by the SA/BD side.  It was nice to hear someone who was well-spoken saying things that werent easy but were truthful about how he felt. He did step lightly in some areas, but when it came to the hard questions he was forthright.  What a relief from the usual circular discussions!

Thank you for the well-wishes and giggle, Melisb.  I'm sure Capp will have LOTS to say about tonight!  :D

Take care, y'all!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on March 24, 2011, 12:27:59 AM
The Thomas Firm's website is still under construction:

http://www.thomasfirm.biz/

He has only been member of the bar for two years!! 
GOOD to hear ! Just another Jose Baez rookie.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: melisb on March 24, 2011, 12:34:23 AM
Thanks Star for the update! Can't wait for more!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 24, 2011, 01:18:41 AM
Being a computer dummy I sometimes don't know how to navigate certain sites.  Too late to listen to RC now so I hope Cappy gets over here soon with some dish! Star get to feeling better!  Us rednecks in N. FL call what you are eating Green Chit!  No lie!  It's the pudding/pinapple/nut/marshmallow fluffy stuff right? Deelish!  Maybe if Cappy can't get over, then the transcript will come up in the wee hours or at least before I go to work in am.

I'm listening to the show right now.  If you'd still like to listen...

Go to the link:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/23/the-bring-them-home-now-exclusive-richy-cooper-and-missing-billy-disilvestro-serial-killer-on-the-lo

Go to the player (to the right of the show description). 

Press play, and you can click and drag to fast forward to listen to Hailey's uncle. 

His part of the show starts at about 62:00.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 24, 2011, 01:50:31 AM
Thank you BTHN!  Thank you Richy Cooper!!

Janet

Oh Janet, I'm glad you got to catch it!  There were some WonderMonkeysTM in chat, I see.  :)

Considering Richy Cooper was the second guest ... I did not miss him as I had thought originally.

I caught the end of the interview of the first guest and ... my heart broke.

Anyways ... I will listen to this evening's BTHN again ... maybe tomorrow.  I am hoping a transcript emerges.

We are off to our neighbors shortly for a board game.  It is my turn to provide the goodies to go with tea/coffee.  Thank Heaven for Safeway bakery.

Janet
7:15 PM PT



Richy is a rather down to earth guy, speaks eloquently & is facing this horror with integrity.  He's refreshingly honest compared to what we've heard from thus far in this case.   Glad you all got a chance to listen.  Yes, Debbie's case tonight is heartbreaking.   Her adult son suffers from seizures & obviously is without his meds, if he hopefully is alive.    I hope he gets thru to Clint on a few issues but Clint should be very grateful he has him in his life.

I was holding my breathe about Billie redecorating Hailey's room & I'm just a shade of livid over it.

I read Shawn Adkin's attorney statement during the show & all I have to say to that is, he should have not made the statement because to me it just pointed towards guilt more.

Ill leave you all with words from Richy tonight "the train is coming"....to this I respond   choo choo!    Gotta get some sleep, have to be up for the Casey Anthony Frye Hearing in a few hours.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: melisb on March 24, 2011, 01:53:29 AM
Thanks TexasMom...listening now.  Finally!!!!  A real, live Man who seems to have common sense, seems to live a decent life, has been married for a long time. Thank goodness for Richy!  He shows more emotion than Billie Dunn has ever!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 24, 2011, 02:58:31 AM
Thanks TexasMom...listening now.  Finally!!!!  A real, live Man who seems to have common sense, seems to live a decent life, has been married for a long time. Thank goodness for Richy!  He shows more emotion than Billie Dunn has ever!

YW melisb! 

I had to pause the show a few times to do other things so I've just finished listening.  Richy does seem very sincere, and genuinely concerned about Hailey and those that love her.  I enjoyed listening to him.  I liked his comment about the train coming too!

I knew Billie had painted the living room but I didn't know she was changing Hailey's room around too.  Now I'm wondering exactly what she's done to it.  Richy wasn't specific but IIRC he said something to the effect of it not being something a girl her age would particularly like?

That's just not right!  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa::

I've never heard of a mother of a missing child doing that!
 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 24, 2011, 09:12:37 AM
The Thomas Firm's website is still under construction:

http://www.thomasfirm.biz/

He has only been member of the bar for two years!! 

Link to info from State Bar of Texas

http://www.texasbar.com/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Advanced_Search&template=/Customsource/MemberDirectory/MemberDirectoryDetail.cfm&ContactID=303709 (http://www.texasbar.com/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Advanced_Search&template=/Customsource/MemberDirectory/MemberDirectoryDetail.cfm&ContactID=303709)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: melisb on March 24, 2011, 09:13:46 AM
I've never, ever heard of a Mom of a missing child repaint (although from the pic I saw from Cranky the room did need it)redecorate, etc., anything that belonged to that child.  Most parents want to preserve their surrounding just as they left them like they are coming right back.  I've read about other folks even moving when they didn't really have to and they turned out to be guilty too cause they new the child wasn't coming back.  Screams to me, she's dead so why not turn the room into something Billie really wanted.  OMFG! Just had another sickening thought...maybe she turned it into a really frilly little girls room and she plans on using it to seduce sicko in it! Richy did say (paraphrase)the room is now not what a girl Hailey's age would want.  Did she make it so sicko could sneak in and use it to his liking?  BD letting her Boo relive his fantasy crime?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: melisb on March 24, 2011, 09:16:17 AM
Lemme say one thing...I could understand painting the living room up and fixing up a bit IF I was going to hold lots of press conferences to help find my child.  I personally would not be able to function to do any of this!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 24, 2011, 09:52:31 AM
Quote
The Thomas Firm's website is still under construction:

http://www.thomasfirm.biz/

home pg works,he sounds like all the other tv advert lawyers
http://www.texasthomasfirm.com/

from the location pgs hit areas of practice tab
http://barrettthomas.com/specialties.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 24, 2011, 11:22:13 AM
Thanks TexasMom...listening now.  Finally!!!!  A real, live Man who seems to have common sense, seems to live a decent life, has been married for a long time. Thank goodness for Richy!  He shows more emotion than Billie Dunn has ever!

YW melisb! 

I had to pause the show a few times to do other things so I've just finished listening.  Richy does seem very sincere, and genuinely concerned about Hailey and those that love her.  I enjoyed listening to him.  I liked his comment about the train coming too!

I knew Billie had painted the living room but I didn't know she was changing Hailey's room around too.  Now I'm wondering exactly what she's done to it.  Richy wasn't specific but IIRC he said something to the effect of it not being something a girl her age would particularly like?

That's just not right!  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa::

I've never heard of a mother of a missing child doing that!
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


I noticed that someone posted at the WOTS FB page that must be a friend of BD's.  She asked BD about the redecorating of Hailey's room.  Her post:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/WOTS-Word-On-The-Street-Hailey-Dunn-Case/206505536031382

"Theresa Gaddis     I talked to Billie-Jean last night, the only thing she did to Haileys room was clean it up some because the LE tore the room apart. Even broke a few of Haileys nik naks. Just thought I would clear things up for you.
49 minutes ago · LikeUnlike · 1"


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 24, 2011, 11:41:09 AM
i just finished listening to rich cooper,he seems to be a straight forward fellow.
when rich was talking about, why billie would still be hanging out with SA, he sorta
agrees that she knows something,im going out on a limb here,dont bash me to hard

JMO theory
a big what if... say billie dosent know the details about hailey disappearance,
but also suspects SA has something to do with hailey disappearance, and by making
SA believe, that she believes him she will be able to get info on hailey, that
would be  positive proof, to put SA away

billie knows all the lies and contradictory statements, are apparent to the public,
but that stuff gives SA a feeling/sense, he can take BD down with him and he has BD where he wants her,because his super arrogant ego,wont let him believe other wise
and BD knows exactly how to manipulate SA, i just find it to hard to believe BD is as dumb as a box of rocks,as she appears to be,im prob wrong,time will tell

rich cooper blog talk
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/23/the-bring-them-home-now-exclusive-richy-cooper-and-missing-billy-disilvestro-serial-killer-on-the-lo


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 24, 2011, 11:51:03 AM


For those that use FB, I found this page for Hailey today that I really like:

The Truth about Hailey
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Hailey-Dunn-home/194154820601040#!/pages/The-Truth-about-Hailey/189314841105211

The Truth about Hailey
Truth: the admins of this page are not accusing any one person or persons of guilt. As you will see, each of our posts pertains to a specific element of the case, a question posed for locals to clarify (such as driving distances, etc.), and to generate discussions regarding inconsistent statements (continued below)...
While we have been fortunate enough to spend time reviewing this information with Clint, we have been unable to review it with Billie. The invitation has been extended, and we have not yet received a response. That does not indicate guilt o...r innocence; it only indicates that Billie has not yet seen our research. Both parents are welcome to respond in any manner on this page to clear up any public misconceptions. Family members and friends who have first-hand accounts that will get us closer to locating Hailey are absolutely welcome. I feel it is important this is said, as opinions have been formed by many regarding this case. Guilt or innocence may only be determined by a jury or magistrate.



The Truth about Hailey
Truth: this afternoon, Billie indicated privately to someone in the family that Hailey may still be alive. Taking emotion out of this info, it is critical we consider how and why Billie would indicate this, on the same day she releases to media that she is beginning to lose hope. Due to the nature of this investigation, we cannot release any specific details of that conversation.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 24, 2011, 12:43:18 PM
Another girl from CCity missing?

Find Stormie Cosby-Missing From Colorado City,Tx

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Find-Stormie-Cosby-Missing-From-Colorado-CityTx/188205214556784 (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Find-Stormie-Cosby-Missing-From-Colorado-CityTx/188205214556784) ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 24, 2011, 12:49:49 PM
Another girl from CCity missing?

Find Stormie Cosby-Missing From Colorado City,Tx

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Find-Stormie-Cosby-Missing-From-Colorado-CityTx/188205214556784 (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Find-Stormie-Cosby-Missing-From-Colorado-CityTx/188205214556784) ::MonkeyMad::

I'm not finding anything at all on this other than that Facebook.  Still looking.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 24, 2011, 12:59:04 PM
Thanks TexasMom...listening now.  Finally!!!!  A real, live Man who seems to have common sense, seems to live a decent life, has been married for a long time. Thank goodness for Richy!  He shows more emotion than Billie Dunn has ever!

YW melisb! 

I had to pause the show a few times to do other things so I've just finished listening.  Richy does seem very sincere, and genuinely concerned about Hailey and those that love her.  I enjoyed listening to him.  I liked his comment about the train coming too!

I knew Billie had painted the living room but I didn't know she was changing Hailey's room around too.  Now I'm wondering exactly what she's done to it.  Richy wasn't specific but IIRC he said something to the effect of it not being something a girl her age would particularly like?

That's just not right!  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa::

I've never heard of a mother of a missing child doing that!
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


I noticed that someone posted at the WOTS FB page that must be a friend of BD's.  She asked BD about the redecorating of Hailey's room.  Her post:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/WOTS-Word-On-The-Street-Hailey-Dunn-Case/206505536031382

"Theresa Gaddis     I talked to Billie-Jean last night, the only thing she did to Haileys room was clean it up some because the LE tore the room apart. Even broke a few of Haileys nik naks. Just thought I would clear things up for you.
49 minutes ago · LikeUnlike · 1"

LE would not have had ANY need to break any of Hailey's belongings in ANY search regarding her disappearance NONE.    It only proves that Billie & members of her supporters were listening last night

She didnt redecorate before she went on NG or local media when she was sitting on the bed in her room, no she did it recently.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 24, 2011, 01:00:39 PM
Another girl from CCity missing?

Find Stormie Cosby-Missing From Colorado City,Tx

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Find-Stormie-Cosby-Missing-From-Colorado-CityTx/188205214556784 (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Find-Stormie-Cosby-Missing-From-Colorado-CityTx/188205214556784) ::MonkeyMad::

I'm not finding anything at all on this other than that Facebook.  Still looking.

The story is very sketching.   Local LE stated there is no custody issue.    Just so happens this mother is a "friend" of one of the searchers in the Hailey Dunn case.   Looking into it.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 24, 2011, 01:02:53 PM
correction to above post  should be *sketchy


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: 4myjoey on March 24, 2011, 01:14:59 PM
Another girl from CCity missing?

Find Stormie Cosby-Missing From Colorado City,Tx

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Find-Stormie-Cosby-Missing-From-Colorado-CityTx/188205214556784 (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Find-Stormie-Cosby-Missing-From-Colorado-CityTx/188205214556784) ::MonkeyMad::

I'm not finding anything at all on this other than that Facebook.  Still looking.


here's the link to the story


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=354306


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 24, 2011, 03:35:08 PM
Another girl from CCity missing?

Find Stormie Cosby-Missing From Colorado City,Tx

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Find-Stormie-Cosby-Missing-From-Colorado-CityTx/188205214556784 (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Find-Stormie-Cosby-Missing-From-Colorado-CityTx/188205214556784) ::MonkeyMad::

I'm not finding anything at all on this other than that Facebook.  Still looking.


here's the link to the story


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=354306

Quote
but since there's no custody agreement, the father hasn't done anything illegal.

Hence, no Amber Alert.  Parents should be more aware of what precarious position they are in by not going through the legal procedures of a divorce and/or custody agreement.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 24, 2011, 08:00:29 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=355126

Update:
Investigators aren't planning to do anything differently in the case of Hailey Dunn after the letter fired off by suspect Shawn Adkins' attorney on Wednesday.

The letter said that investigators were focusing more on Adkins than on finding the missing 13-year-old.

Pete Kampfer, a spokesperson for the investigation, said this type of tactic is common among defense teams, and that investigators are going in the direction that the evidence leads.

"We certainly understand all kinds of frustrations in the case" he said.  "Shawn Adkins has been a person of interest in the case since the very beginning and is continuing to be that."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 24, 2011, 08:42:04 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=355126

Update:
Investigators aren't planning to do anything differently in the case of Hailey Dunn after the letter fired off by suspect Shawn Adkins' attorney on Wednesday.

The letter said that investigators were focusing more on Adkins than on finding the missing 13-year-old.

Pete Kampfer, a spokesperson for the investigation, said this type of tactic is common among defense teams, and that investigators are going in the direction that the evidence leads.

"We certainly understand all kinds of frustrations in the case" he said.  "Shawn Adkins has been a person of interest in the case since the very beginning and is continuing to be that."
 ::snipping2::

That really cracked me up for some reason. I can see someone opening the letter, pushing their glasses to their end of their nose as they read it.  "Hmmm mmm .... ok,  right... nope - not changing a thing".  And then filing it.  :)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 24, 2011, 09:27:01 PM
I would assume that Billie is not "scared" of Shawn anymore.  His threatening notepad  thoughts towards her are a non-issue.

Maybe Billie's new attorney should be informed of the facts prior to "speaking out".

Janet

+++++


 Billie Dunn's Attorney Speaks Out
10 minutes ago


<snipped>

Dunn bonded out and sometime after that, she filed a restraining order that prohibits Adkins from coming near Dunn's property. Something Young said officials strongly urged her to do.

But since that order was filed, there have been reports the couple were spotted together over the weekend. Young said he's aware of the rumors.

"They were seen together in Snyder," Young said.  "Well both of them have family in Snyder. They may have been in Snyder at the same time that doesn't necessarily follow that they were together."

<snipped>

http://www.newswest9.com/Global/story.asp?S=14318202


Hailey's Mother Hires Attorney, No Longer Speaking to Media
Monday, March 21 2011


Monday, 2:15 p.m. Update:
According to the Snyder Daily News, an entry on the blotter at the Scurry County Law Enforcement Center Sunday afternoon stated a woman called and asked to speak to an officer on the telephone in reference to both Dunn and Adkins being together at the caller’s residence looking for someone.
 
<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 24, 2011, 09:31:28 PM
BD's lawyer calls the attempt at a warrant on SA a "ruse" to try to get one or both of them into custody:
http://www.kwes.com/global/category.asp?c=163304&clipId=5691234&topVideoCatNo=121765&topVideoCatNoB=83259&topVideoCatNoC=182033&topVideoCatNoD=169582&topVideoCatNoE=169586&autoStart=true


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 24, 2011, 09:32:56 PM
"We're going to find our baby - we're going to find Hailey", says the lawyer.
http://www.kwes.com/global/category.asp?c=163304&clipId=5691234&topVideoCatNo=121765&topVideoCatNoB=83259&topVideoCatNoC=182033&topVideoCatNoD=169582&topVideoCatNoE=169586&autoStart=true
Wait, huh?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 24, 2011, 10:06:49 PM
I would assume that Billie is not "scared" of Shawn anymore.  His threatening notepad  thoughts towards her are a non-issue.

Maybe Billie's new attorney should be informed of the facts prior to "speaking out".

Janet

+++++


 Billie Dunn's Attorney Speaks Out
10 minutes ago


<snipped>

Dunn bonded out and sometime after that, she filed a restraining order that prohibits Adkins from coming near Dunn's property. Something Young said officials strongly urged her to do.

But since that order was filed, there have been reports the couple were spotted together over the weekend. Young said he's aware of the rumors.

"They were seen together in Snyder," Young said.  "Well both of them have family in Snyder. They may have been in Snyder at the same time that doesn't necessarily follow that they were together."

<snipped>

http://www.newswest9.com/Global/story.asp?S=14318202


Hailey's Mother Hires Attorney, No Longer Speaking to Media
Monday, March 21 2011


Monday, 2:15 p.m. Update:
According to the Snyder Daily News, an entry on the blotter at the Scurry County Law Enforcement Center Sunday afternoon stated a woman called and asked to speak to an officer on the telephone in reference to both Dunn and Adkins being together at the caller’s residence looking for someone.
 
<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353756


Its not a restraining order, nice play on words it is a No Trespassing order...geesh   Deny Deny Deny....in other words BUSTED and cant come right out and say NO, she did not meet up with Shawn last Sat night.

The video is now up


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 24, 2011, 10:08:06 PM
"We're going to find our baby - we're going to find Hailey", says the lawyer.
http://www.kwes.com/global/category.asp?c=163304&clipId=5691234&topVideoCatNo=121765&topVideoCatNoB=83259&topVideoCatNoC=182033&topVideoCatNoD=169582&topVideoCatNoE=169586&autoStart=true
Wait, huh?

Yes folks, as feared WE HAVE ANOTHER BOZO!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on March 25, 2011, 03:04:39 AM
Thanks TexasMom...listening now.  Finally!!!!  A real, live Man who seems to have common sense, seems to live a decent life, has been married for a long time. Thank goodness for Richy!  He shows more emotion than Billie Dunn has ever!

YW melisb! 

I had to pause the show a few times to do other things so I've just finished listening.  Richy does seem very sincere, and genuinely concerned about Hailey and those that love her.  I enjoyed listening to him.  I liked his comment about the train coming too!

I knew Billie had painted the living room but I didn't know she was changing Hailey's room around too.  Now I'm wondering exactly what she's done to it.  Richy wasn't specific but IIRC he said something to the effect of it not being something a girl her age would particularly like?

That's just not right!  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa::

I've never heard of a mother of a missing child doing that!
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


When my son's went off to college, I went into mourning.
I closed the door of  their room and did NOT go in for weeks. I could not stand that they were not here.
I KNEW WHERE they were, and was saddened at their absence, but I never touched a thing in there nor entered the room. For me it was too painful.

HOW Billie can redecorate her MISSING daughter's room is beyond me. I KNEW where my son's were and and I felt a loss and they were, for me, directly tied to their rooms. Geez, they grew up in them !

Those boys are now 30 and 38, and I have not changed a thing in their rooms, but feel comfort now, when I enter them, knowing that a piece of them, IMO, will remain here forever. I am happy they r successful in their lives.

Billie must have known from day 1 that Hailey was NOT returning home.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Sister on March 25, 2011, 08:06:22 AM
Thanks TexasMom...listening now.  Finally!!!!  A real, live Man who seems to have common sense, seems to live a decent life, has been married for a long time. Thank goodness for Richy!  He shows more emotion than Billie Dunn has ever!

YW melisb! 

I had to pause the show a few times to do other things so I've just finished listening.  Richy does seem very sincere, and genuinely concerned about Hailey and those that love her.  I enjoyed listening to him.  I liked his comment about the train coming too!

I knew Billie had painted the living room but I didn't know she was changing Hailey's room around too.  Now I'm wondering exactly what she's done to it.  Richy wasn't specific but IIRC he said something to the effect of it not being something a girl her age would particularly like?

That's just not right!  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa::

I've never heard of a mother of a missing child doing that!
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


When my son's went off to college, I went into mourning.
I closed the door of  their room and did NOT go in for weeks. I could not stand that they were not here.
I KNEW WHERE they were, and was saddened at their absence, but I never touched a thing in there nor entered the room. For me it was too painful.

HOW Billie can redecorate her MISSING daughter's room is beyond me. I KNEW where my son's were and and I felt a loss and they were, for me, directly tied to their rooms. Geez, they grew up in them !

Those boys are now 30 and 38, and I have not changed a thing in their rooms, but feel comfort now, when I enter them, knowing that a piece of them, IMO, will remain here forever. I am happy they r successful in their lives.

Billie must have known from day 1 that Hailey was NOT returning home.

BBM
LEP, I agree with what you have said.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 25, 2011, 11:05:45 AM
"We're going to find our baby - we're going to find Hailey", says the lawyer.
http://www.kwes.com/global/category.asp?c=163304&clipId=5691234&topVideoCatNo=121765&topVideoCatNoB=83259&topVideoCatNoC=182033&topVideoCatNoD=169582&topVideoCatNoE=169586&autoStart=true
Wait, huh?

Oh PUUUUHHHHleaaaase!  Glad I'm not a reporter as I would have totally busted out laughing the minute that came out of his mouth.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 25, 2011, 12:16:41 PM
When the deception to investigators revealed in affidavits regarding his actions and whereabouts on the morning of December 27th is considered ... when the child porn images are considered ... why has Shawn Adkins not been apprehended and charged with something?

Janet

++++

Investigators Respond to Letter from Adkins' Attorney
Thursday, March 24 2011


Investigators aren't planning to do anything differently in the case of Hailey Dunn after the letter fired off by suspect Shawn Adkins' attorney on Wednesday.

The letter said that investigators were focusing more on Adkins than on finding the missing 13-year-old.

Pete Kampfer, a spokesperson for the investigation, said this type of tactic is common among defense teams, and that investigators are going in the direction that the evidence leads.

"We certainly understand all kinds of frustrations in the case" he said.  "Shawn Adkins has been a person of interest in the case since the very beginning and is continuing to be that."

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=355126



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cookie on March 25, 2011, 01:12:02 PM
grrrrr ::MonkeyMad:: this is sooooo frustrating!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 25, 2011, 04:33:21 PM


I was just thinking about when David came home and was knocking on the door.  According to Shawn:

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/hailey-dunn-bring-them-home-exclusive-interview-shawn-adkins-speaks-out

 ::snipping2::
"HOST: Shawn, why would you not let David in the door?

SHAWN ADKINS: Well, it's easy to explain. When any of us were by ourselves we always locked the door. And then when he said he was knocking at the door I was in the restroom and then he said he got through a window and we met up in the hallway, or wherever we met up, and he surprised me. I didn’t hear him knocking or anything.
HOST: What happened?

SHAWN ADKINS: I was just, he just kind of startled me when he got in there and then he and his friend went into his room and then they were just playing their video games."

 ::snipping2::

Okay, so in looking at pictures and what data I can find about the house, I would think that there is probably only one bathroom in the house.  As such, it would likely be in a location very near the living room area that you enter when you go in the door (making an assumption on layout here).  Given this PLUS the obvious age/condition of the home, how would it be possible to NOT hear someone knocking on the door??  THIS could EASILY be recreated by LE, if they found it useful in their investigation. 

Also, if there happens to be a bathroom in the master bedroom, I still think that with the smaller size of the home, condition, age...you would still hear someone knocking on the door.  And I would imagine that David would probably knock pretty loudly before he would decide to crawl through the window. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 25, 2011, 05:39:33 PM


I was just thinking about when David came home and was knocking on the door.  According to Shawn:

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/hailey-dunn-bring-them-home-exclusive-interview-shawn-adkins-speaks-out

 ::snipping2::
"HOST: Shawn, why would you not let David in the door?

SHAWN ADKINS: Well, it's easy to explain. When any of us were by ourselves we always locked the door. And then when he said he was knocking at the door I was in the restroom and then he said he got through a window and we met up in the hallway, or wherever we met up, and he surprised me. I didn’t hear him knocking or anything.
HOST: What happened?

SHAWN ADKINS: I was just, he just kind of startled me when he got in there and then he and his friend went into his room and then they were just playing their video games."

 ::snipping2::

Okay, so in looking at pictures and what data I can find about the house, I would think that there is probably only one bathroom in the house.  As such, it would likely be in a location very near the living room area that you enter when you go in the door (making an assumption on layout here).  Given this PLUS the obvious age/condition of the home, how would it be possible to NOT hear someone knocking on the door??  THIS could EASILY be recreated by LE, if they found it useful in their investigation. 

Also, if there happens to be a bathroom in the master bedroom, I still think that with the smaller size of the home, condition, age...you would still hear someone knocking on the door.  And I would imagine that David would probably knock pretty loudly before he would decide to crawl through the window. 

According to Billie in the 911 call ... the doors of her home are rarely locked.  The questions beg to be answered ...

1. Why was the door locked on 4:00 PM on the afternoon of December 27th when David returned home?

2. Why did Shawn not answer David's five minute pounding on the door?

Could it be that Shawn suspected Hailey Dunn's body had been located and it was LE at the door?

Janet

++++++

Hailey's Mom to 911: Shawn's Threatening to Kill Me
Wednesday, January 19 2011


In the first call, made to Colorado City police at approximately 11:30 a.m. on Feb. 14, Billie Dunn told a dispatcher that she was at work in Snyder and feared Adkins was going to enter her home and take something.

Dunn: “My boyfriend and I just broke up yesterday, but he’s saying that he’s going to go in my house and get his t-shirt and I don’t want him in there while I’m gone because I don’t know what he’ll take. I don’t trust him enough to go in there."

Dunn went on to tell dispatchers that she feared Adkins could take a television or her son’s X-Box. Dunn also revealed that she rarely locked the windows or doors.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332786


Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
By Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 2:17 pm CST January 12, 2011


On the afternoon of Dec. 27 at about 4 p.m., Hailey’s brother David returned home.

According to his father, Clint Dunn, David arrived about 4 p.m. and pounded on the front door for about five minutes, and no one would let him in the door.

David then let himself into the house through a window, where David said he saw Adkins in a hallway with a “deer in the headlights look.”

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 25, 2011, 07:57:06 PM


http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/03/statement-analysis-of-billie-dunns.html

Friday, March 25, 2011
Statement Analysis of Billie Dunn's Attorney


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 25, 2011, 08:54:30 PM
Hailey's parents for their own respective reasons will not focus suspicion on the main suspect in the disappearance of their daughter despite Shawn Adkins's deception revealed in the affidaviits ... deception regarding his actions and whereabouts on the morning of December 27th.

However ... Hailey's grandmother grasps the reality of the situation ... the reality that Shawn may have harmed her precious granddaughter.  Uncle Richy and Auntie Mary grasp the reality of the situation.

What is behind the respective denials of Clint and Billie in regards to Shawn?  Is there a common connection between Clint, Billie and Shawn ... a common connection which involves illegal wrongdoing?  In other words ... do Clint and Billie realize if Shawn goes down for the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Hailey ... it is a given that they both will be implicated in illegal wrongdoing that implies consequences which will put them behind bars for a long time?

Janet

++++++


Nana

Connie Jones and Mary Cooper for Hailey Dunn on BringThemHomeNow Radio - Feb-23-2011


<snipped>

Host: Why do you think it's so important that Shawn, on "BringThemHomeNow"?

Connie: I think he needs to. I think Shawn needs to talk about it. I think he needs to clear the air and let his voice be out there, let his voice be known, let him express his reasoning, his point of view about things. You know. I'd, I'd sure I know he has to get approval of his lawyer and everything, I don't want to have these feelings about Shawn. I really don't. I don't like these feelings about Shawn. But nobody's seen her walking around or anything that day and then it's like poof, she just poof, and into thin air and she's gone and it's, to me, it just points to Shawn,and he needs to clear things up. He needs to clear things up with why he went back to Ccity that morning.? Why did he quit his job that day of all days?

<snipped>

Host: What do you believe happened with Shawn that day?

Connie: I believe that after he quit his job, he went home and maybe molested her or raped her, and knowing my granddaughter there's no way that she was going to keep quiet about it. Period. I mean she's openly verbal, Hailey is, and I figured he had to shut her up.

<snipped>

http://equinox-ecliptic.blogspot.com/2011/02/connie-jones-and-mary-cooper-for-hailey.html

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/24/bring-them-home-now-exclusive-hailey-dunns-grandma-and-aunt-livemisisng-laurie-partridge-family


Auntie Mary

Connie Jones and Mary Cooper for Hailey Dunn on BringThemHomeNow Radio - Feb-23-2011


<snipped>

Host: Mary, what do you think of Billie and Shawn?

Mary: Well, probably the same as everybody else. I mean, because I just don't understand how she can just sit over there and… with him…

Host: Explain that?

Mary: Well, he's a suspect. And he's living there with her and she does not have any of her kids now because of him and…

Host: How do you feel about Shawn and Billie living together?

Mary: I don't like it. It infuriates me. Because he's a suspect and I just don't understand why he, why she's putting him first and I mean if she would tell us the reason why I would understand it but she doesn't talk to us. So it just infuriates me that she is with her and she's with him and there's ..where's Hailey? I mean..

<snipped>

http://equinox-ecliptic.blogspot.com/2011/02/connie-jones-and-mary-cooper-for-hailey.html

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/24/bring-them-home-now-exclusive-hailey-dunns-grandma-and-aunt-livemisisng-laurie-partridge-family


Uncle Richy

The Bring Them Home Now EXCLUSIVE RICHY COOPER /DUNN CASE ...
23/03/2011 5:00 PM - 2 hrs 2 min


<snipped>

Richy Cooper: My opinion.  Shawn did it.  Shawn tried something of a sexual nature and killed Hailey.  Billie wasn't involved but she knows.  Billie could be scared of Shawn.
Clint is not going to be happy with me. (Paraphrased)

<snipped>

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/23/the-bring-them-home-now-exclusive-richy-cooper-and-missing-billy-disilvestro-serial-killer-on-the-lo


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 25, 2011, 09:56:52 PM

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cubanarama/2011/03/25/cold-cases--hailey-dunns-blind-drive

This is an interesting program, but a little long.....2 hours

Freida Ratcliff, who is one of the searchers searching for Hailey, went on a drive guided by psychic Gail St.John.  Freida was guided North on Hwy 208 to a white church, then onto County Road 153; then onto County Road 163 on the Mitchell/Scurry County Line. 

Freida said that was the exact spot where LE had said that they should be searching.
It is private property and LE is trying to obtain permission to search along a creek there.
LE says that the area is suspicious due to Shawn's cell phone pings.   Freida lost cell phone contact at that point.

Gail St. John has recovered 37 bodies.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 25, 2011, 10:00:21 PM
THE NO-TRESPASSING ORDER

Billie Dunn


Billie Dunn Gives Reason For No-Trespassing Order Against Adkins
Saturday, March 19 2011


The mother of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn said she filed a no trespassing order against her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.

Billie Dunn said investigators found disturbing messages about her in Adkins' cell phone Thursday. She didn't wish to go into detail, but described the content as "threatening."

Dunn said Adkins can't come on her property for a year under the order she filed Friday.

"He made threats against me. I don't think he sent them anywhere. They were just on the memo pad...I got scared and I didn't want him to be able to come over here at all anymore," she said.

<snipped>

Dunn said she has no plans to see or speak to Adkins again.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353486


Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs

Officials: Billie Dunn filed trespass warning against Adkins
Pair allegedly seen together the next day
Posted March 21, 2011 at 7:51 p.m


Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs said Monday that Billie Dunn was made aware of threatening messages found on items taken from Adkins during the execution of the search warrants. Toombs said Dunn filed a trespass warning against Adkins on Friday, barring him from her property for a year.

Toombs also said he had received information that Dunn and Adkins were seen together in Snyder on Saturday, a day after she filed the trespass warning against him.

"I'm not going to elaborate on who gave us that information," Toombs said. "But it is from what I would consider a reliable source."

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/21/officials-dunn-filed-trespass-warning-against/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 25, 2011, 10:10:48 PM
Hi Monkeys!
I have not checked in in a while but I see Hailey's beautiful face on facebook along with Kyrons, Lindseys and so many other sweet angels that have still not been found. Rather than post the long reply, I have shortened it.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9552.msg1320497#msg1320497 Edit to add link & quote box.  MB
Quote
What is behind the respective denials of Clint and Billie in regards to Shawn?  Is there a common connection between Clint, Billie and Shawn ... a common connection which involves illegal wrongdoing?  In other words ... do Clint and Billie realize if Shawn goes down for the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Hailey ... it is a given that they both will be implicated in illegal wrongdoing that implies consequences which will put them behind bars for a long time?

Janet

Janet,
It is my gut feeling that the parents are probably keeping mum about what they do or do not feel with regards to who may have harmed Hailey. There has been so much media involved (thank goodness, FINALLY) with Kyron's cases and others. Let us just say that Clint or even Billie think that Shawn may have harmed Hailey, what good would it do for them to publicly throw him under the bus? I think it is much wiser to keep mum with regards to whatever they may feel and keep the focus on finding Hailey. I would LOVE to see Shawn locked up for the kiddie porn alone, but once he is behind bars, I doubt he would do anymore talking. Just my personal opinion.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 25, 2011, 10:11:01 PM

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cubanarama/2011/03/25/cold-cases--hailey-dunns-blind-drive

This is an interesting program, but a little long.....2 hours

Freida Ratcliff, who is one of the searchers searching for Hailey, went on a drive guided by psychic Gail St.John.  Freida was guided North on Hwy 208 to a white church, then onto County Road 153; then onto County Road 163 on the Mitchell/Scurry County Line. 

Freida said that was the exact spot where LE had said that they should be searching.
It is private property and LE is trying to obtain permission to search along a creek there.
LE says that the area is suspicious due to Shawn's cell phone pings.   Freida lost cell phone contact at that point.

Gail St. John has recovered 37 bodies.

I wonder what is taking so long getting permission for that one property - it has been three months.  Does anyone know that, after a certain amount of time and a given amount of suspicion, if they can't just say they have probable cause and go in there?  Or waive permission?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 25, 2011, 10:14:44 PM

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cubanarama/2011/03/25/cold-cases--hailey-dunns-blind-drive

This is an interesting program, but a little long.....2 hours

Freida Ratcliff, who is one of the searchers searching for Hailey, went on a drive guided by psychic Gail St.John.  Freida was guided North on Hwy 208 to a white church, then onto County Road 153; then onto County Road 163 on the Mitchell/Scurry County Line. 

Freida said that was the exact spot where LE had said that they should be searching.
It is private property and LE is trying to obtain permission to search along a creek there.
LE says that the area is suspicious due to Shawn's cell phone pings.   Freida lost cell phone contact at that point.

Gail St. John has recovered 37 bodies.

I wonder why permission to search was not immediately forthcoming from the owner of the property.  Why hasn't a judge signed off on a search warrant if cell phone records indicate a possible connection to the Hailey Dunn case?

If in the process of elimination in a missing persons investigtion LE came to my door and requested permission to search my home/property ... I would request that they excuse the mess ... no time to clean as I am on the computer all day and ... step aside. 

Janet

++++


Investigators Won't Release Cell Records in Dunn Case
Friday, February 18 2011


<snipped>

Though search warrant affidavits revealed a timeline of calls made by key players in the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, we likely won't know anytime soon to whom the calls in question were made.
 
The City of Colorado City has denied a request made under the Freedom of Information Act to release those cell phone records.

An affidavit from Mitchell County shows investigators have received records from Verizon pertaining to phones used by Hailey's mother Billie Dunn and her live-in boyfriend Shawn Adkins. The Mitchell County Sheriff's Office says those records were handed over to Colorado City Police.

In not releasing the records, Colorado City cited a portion of the Freedom of Information Act that reads:

"Information held by a law enforcement agency or prosecutor due to the investigation or prosecution of a crime is excepted from the requirements of Section 550.021, seq."

In search warrants, police indicated Adkins, the only named suspect in the case, made several cell phone calls on the morning of Hailey's disappearance. Affidavits showed Adkins' phone was used in Colorado City from 6:35 to 6:56 a.m. It was then used in Big Spring several times between 9:38 a.m. and 2:40 p.m.

<snipped>
 
Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer confirmed that law enforcement was examining a text message but wouldn't elaborate beyond that point.

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=343746


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 25, 2011, 10:17:05 PM
Hi Monkeys!
I have not checked in in a while but I see Hailey's beautiful face on facebook along with Kyrons, Lindseys and so many other sweet angels that have still not been found. Rather than post the long reply, I have shortened it.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9552.msg1320497#msg1320497 Edit to add link & quote box.  MB
Quote
What is behind the respective denials of Clint and Billie in regards to Shawn?  Is there a common connection between Clint, Billie and Shawn ... a common connection which involves illegal wrongdoing?  In other words ... do Clint and Billie realize if Shawn goes down for the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Hailey ... it is a given that they both will be implicated in illegal wrongdoing that implies consequences which will put them behind bars for a long time?

Janet

Janet,
It is my gut feeling that the parents are probably keeping mum about what they do or do not feel with regards to who may have harmed Hailey. There has been so much media involved (thank goodness, FINALLY) with Kyron's cases and others. Let us just say that Clint or even Billie think that Shawn may have harmed Hailey, what good would it do for them to publicly throw him under the bus? I think it is much wiser to keep mum with regards to whatever they may feel and keep the focus on finding Hailey. I would LOVE to see Shawn locked up for the kiddie porn alone, but once he is behind bars, I doubt he would do anymore talking. Just my personal opinion.



Hi sebastian

How ya doing.  It has been a while.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 25, 2011, 10:21:16 PM
Hi Monkeys!
I have not checked in in a while but I see Hailey's beautiful face on facebook along with Kyrons, Lindseys and so many other sweet angels that have still not been found. Rather than post the long reply, I have shortened it.

Edit to add link and quote box.  MB
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9552.msg1320497#msg1320497
Quote
What is behind the respective denials of Clint and Billie in regards to Shawn?  Is there a common connection between Clint, Billie and Shawn ... a common connection which involves illegal wrongdoing?  In other words ... do Clint and Billie realize if Shawn goes down for the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Hailey ... it is a given that they both will be implicated in illegal wrongdoing that implies consequences which will put them behind bars for a long time?

Janet
Janet,
It is my gut feeling that the parents are probably keeping mum about what they do or do not feel with regards to who may have harmed Hailey. There has been so much media involved (thank goodness, FINALLY) with Kyron's cases and others. Let us just say that Clint or even Billie think that Shawn may have harmed Hailey, what good would it do for them to publicly throw him under the bus? I think it is much wiser to keep mum with regards to whatever they may feel and keep the focus on finding Hailey. I would LOVE to see Shawn locked up for the kiddie porn alone, but once he is behind bars, I doubt he would do anymore talking. Just my personal opinion.



Hi sebastian

How ya doing.  It has been a while.

Janet

Hi Janet,
My daughter has me running all over town playing three different spots, LOL! I also work full-time! I have been so frustrated that Lindsey and Kyron are still missing and now Hailey is still not found. I don't know how any of the parents survive it. I can only speak for myself. I would be locked up if I were in their shoes. I think they would have to take me away to the funny farm or jail. I would not have the patience that these parents are able to display. It is so mind boggling! These are innocent children!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on March 25, 2011, 10:28:19 PM
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9552.msg1320497#msg1320497 Edit to add link and quote box. MB
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"What is behind the respective denials of Clint and Billie in regards to Shawn?  Is there a common connection between Clint, Billie and Shawn ... a common connection which involves illegal wrongdoing?  In other words ... do Clint and Billie realize if Shawn goes down for the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Hailey ... it is a given that they both will be implicated in illegal wrongdoing that implies consequences which will put them behind bars for a long time?"
....
Janet, I don't think there is any connection between Clint and Shawn like that.
Clint is Clint and he is dealing with this as he knows how. We don't have a window into his thoughts either. And it is not going to help anyone if he goes out on national tv or airwaves and gives them both a verbal blast. Clint has to stay his course and let LE do their work. Clint is on a road that I would not want to be on.  
...
Richie Cooper & Clint have known Billie for many years. They don't know what she's been up to for the past few with Shawn and the drugs, etc. Probably very hard to comprehend that someone that you thought of one way for fifteen years has turned into what Billie is right now. It's easy for us to say what we would or would not do as we are all removed from the actual persons in this sad story.  My heart hurt when I heard what Mr. Cooper had to say the other night. Billie has shut these persons who are part of her family out and has aligned herself with Shawn. That says it all, to me. That she isn't a " we" with Hailey's other relatives, but a " we" with that creep.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 25, 2011, 10:46:39 PM
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9552.msg1320497#msg1320497 Edit to add link and quote box.  MB
Quote
"What is behind the respective denials of Clint and Billie in regards to Shawn?  Is there a common connection between Clint, Billie and Shawn ... a common connection which involves illegal wrongdoing?  In other words ... do Clint and Billie realize if Shawn goes down for the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Hailey ... it is a given that they both will be implicated in illegal wrongdoing that implies consequences which will put them behind bars for a long time?"
....
Janet, I don't think there is any connection between Clint and Shawn like that.
Clint is Clint and he is dealing with this as he knows how. We don't have a window into his thoughts either. And it is not going to help anyone if he goes out on national tv or airwaves and gives them both a verbal blast. Clint has to stay his course and let LE do their work. Clint is on a road that I would not want to be on.  
...
Richie Cooper & Clint have known Billie for many years. They don't know what she's been up to for the past few with Shawn and the drugs, etc. Probably very hard to comprehend that someone that you thought of one way for fifteen years has turned into what Billie is right now. It's easy for us to say what we would or would not do as we are all removed from the actual persons in this sad story.  My heart hurt when I heard what Mr. Cooper had to say the other night. Billie has shut these persons who are part of her family out and has aligned herself with Shawn. That says it all, to me. That she isn't a " we" with Hailey's other relatives, but a " we" with that creep.

Hi Kat Gram!
If Billie is aligned with Shawn, my guess is that she is addicted to him and that he is a sociopath. Are you sure she is still aligned with him? There is a woman that I have known since childhood. She was married for years and had children. She was a wonderful wife and mother and had a fabulous life. She ran across a guy that I am pretty sure is a sociopath. She has since left her husband and children and is completely and totally addicted to this loser. She is the LAST person in the world that you would have ever expected it from. I don't get it.

 I have no idea why Billie would continue contact with Shawn, if that is, in fact the case. It is hard for people to understand others actions when they are so completely different from the way that you would react in the same given situation. I think sometimes we expect people to behave the way that we would and it is so hard to wrap your mind around it when they do not. I think you have to consider upbringing, social environment and even that town that they all live in. I am curious as to Colorado Cities crime rate and demographics. I think I know what it is going to be but I am going to go look it up right now.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 25, 2011, 10:57:11 PM
sebastian and Kat-Gram

My focus is Hailey Dunn.  All I know is that Hailey is missing and ... her mother and father are both distancing the main suspect in her disappearance.  Why?  I find it such a betrayal to Hailey by both parents.

Hailey's father stated to the media less than a month ago that it was his belief that Shawn was "innocent" ... that LE should be focusing attention elsewhere.

Hailey's mothers contends that the unconfirmed reports of Hailey sightings should be the focus ... not Shawn Adkins.

When the affidavits are considered ... why does Billie and Clint disregard Shawn's deception when questioned by investigators regarding her actions and whereabouts on the morning of December 27th?

I cannot comprehend why both Billie and Clint disregard the words of Hailey's grandma and aunt regarding their daughter's underlying fear of Shawn Adkins ... the main suspect in her disappearance.

I do not give either Clint or Billie a pass.  They both make me sooo angry.

Bottom Line.  I do not believe that either parent had anything to do directly with the disappearance of their daughter but ... there are underlying reason why Shaun Adkins is not their focus in their quest for answers.  What are those reasons?

Janet

+++++


AUNTIE

Not Comfortable - Hated Shawn

Hailey Dunn: Called Her Aunt Crying Days Before Disappearance
Posted: February 4, 2011


The last person who saw Hailey was Shawn Adkins, her mother’s boyfriend. He is a person of interest in the case and, as Theresa Gaddis, Hailey’s aunt, tells OK!, he has been quite a frightening figure in Hailey’s life. “A few days before she disappeared, Hailey called me crying,” explains Theresa. “She said, “I don’t want to go to my house; I’m not comfortable around my stepdad.” She hated Shawn[/color].

<snipped>

OK! magazine, February 14, 2011

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/02/04/hailey-dunn-phone-call-to-aunt-day-before-disappearance/


NANA

Missing Texas Girl Hailey Dunn 'Scared' of Shawn Adkins
Grandmother Says Adkins Would Stand in Girl's Bedroom Doorway and Watch Her
Jan. 13, 2011


<snipped>

Hailey told her grandmother that Adkins would pace around the house at night, talking on his cell phone in the bathroom and peering into her bedroom.

"She had told me on a couple of occasions that...he walked around at night and she said that she could see his shadow standing at her door. She said, 'Nana, he scared me. I'm afraid he's going to come in there,'" Jones said.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/shawn-adkins-named-person-interst-case-missing-texas/story?id=12608537


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 25, 2011, 10:59:24 PM
http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Colorado-City-Texas.html

Colorado Cities crime rate is high, as I suspected. It looks like it is mostly theft, but doesn't that go hand in hand with drugs? In 2000 the population was just under 10,000 and there were only two arrests for sex crimes???? That seems really odd. Does that mean that sex crimes were not going on or that they were not getting prosecuted?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 25, 2011, 11:06:36 PM
Hi Janet,
I snipped this from your above post  ::snipping2::
Edit to add link.  MB http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9552.msg1320534#msg1320534
Bottom Line.  I do not believe that either parent had anything to do directly with the disappearance of their daughter but ... there are underlying reason why Shaun Adkins is not their focus in their quest for answers.  What are those reasons?

Janet


I hear what you are saying Janet. I don't give anyone a pass either. Again, I cannot speak for you but if I thought that someone had harmed my daughter, I would get them to talk or be taken to jail. Would that be the smart thing to do? Probably not. For THE TIME BEING, I am going with my gut that there is a very good reason why the parents are staying mum. I just go back to Kyron's step-mom and the fact that she has lawyered up and kept her yapper shut for months and months and months. And where is Kyron? I respect Desiree so much for handing out flyers in Terri's town. Having said that, Kyron is still missing. So, again, it is so hard to say what is the right or wrong thing to do. I know what I WOULD DO, but how effective would I be looking for my baby if I was sitting in a jail cell?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 25, 2011, 11:38:25 PM
I know if Hailey Dunn was my precious granddaughter ... I would feel like killing not only Shawn Adkins but also Billie and Clint for not doing what needed to be done to prevent what ultimately happened.  I would feel like killing not only Shawn Adkins but also Billie and Clint for making selfish likestyle choice above the well-being of my Takara Ann.

Considering I would not act on my feelings ... I would at least be voicing my opinions ... something akin to Kyron Horman's parents.  Anything less would be a betrayal to my missing granddaughter.

I get very emotional when I consider that Hailey Dunn does not have one parent who will acknowledge her ongoing fear night after night of Shawn Adkins' presence while he resided under the same roof ... does not have one parent that is pleading for the main suspect in her disappearance ... to come clean.

Good Night All.

Janet

 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 25, 2011, 11:41:22 PM
SELF EDIT - MY LAST POST

selfish likestyle choice above s/b selfish lifestyle choices above


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 25, 2011, 11:53:59 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Uncle Richy

The Bring Them Home Now EXCLUSIVE RICHY COOPER /DUNN CASE ...
23/03/2011 5:00 PM - 2 hrs 2 min


<snipped>

Richy Cooper: My opinion.  Shawn did it.  Shawn tried something of a sexual nature and killed Hailey.  Billie wasn't involved but she knows.  Billie could be scared of Shawn. Clint is not going to be happy with me. (Paraphrased)

<snipped>

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/23/the-bring-them-home-now-exclusive-richy-cooper-and-missing-billy-disilvestro-serial-killer-on-the-lo


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 26, 2011, 12:01:33 AM
I know if Hailey Dunn was my precious granddaughter ... I would feel like killing not only Shawn Adkins but also Billie and Clint for not doing what needed to be done to prevent what ultimately happened.  I would feel like killing not only Shawn Adkins but also Billie and Clint for making selfish likestyle choice above the well-being of my Takara Ann.

Considering I would not act on my feelings ... I would at least be voicing my opinions ... something akin to Kyron Horman's parents.  Anything less would be a betrayal to my missing granddaughter.

I get very emotional when I consider that Hailey Dunn does not have one parent who will acknowledge her ongoing fear night after night of Shawn Adkins' presence while he resided under the same roof ... does not have one parent that is pleading for the main suspect in her disappearance ... to come clean.

Good Night All.

Janet

 

Hi Janet,
I know you get very emotional with regards to these cases. That is why you follow them, because you care so much. I too follow them even when it breaks my heart. I am trying really hard to keep an open mind and see what shakes out shortly. I have an open mind until it comes to Shawn. Kiddie porn and beastiality is beyond sick and disgusting. There HAS TO BE a really good reason why he has not been arrested for that! I also found it interesting that it was stated in an article that they can trace this kiddie porn all over the place. Maybe that is the hold up? Maybe there will be numerous arrests for all of the viewers? It would also be fantastic if they could trace it back to the source. I would love to see a boatload of sicko's rounded up and taken in.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 26, 2011, 12:11:31 AM
This was snipped from facebook.
Please provide the link from facebook, even though it may have been posted previously. MB
Help Find Hailey Dunn
As we inch closer & closer to Sunday, the 3 month mark since Hailey has been gone, please allow Clinton Dunn's words to whisper into your hearts: "I just miss it all. I miss her face. There’s no one particular thing; I miss her companionship. I’m focused on one thing. Finding Hailey. Don’t forget. Hailey is still out there.” (T)
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I am not giving anyone a pass on anything. I just think that Clint is probably hanging on to life right now by his fingernails. He is only focused on finding Hailey. To think about anything else at this point would undoubtedly send him over the edge.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 26, 2011, 12:43:49 AM
This was snipped from facebook.
Please provide the link even if it may have been posted before.  MB
Help Find Hailey Dunn
As we inch closer & closer to Sunday, the 3 month mark since Hailey has been gone, please allow Clinton Dunn's words to whisper into your hearts: "I just miss it all. I miss her face. There’s no one particular thing; I miss her companionship. I’m focused on one thing. Finding Hailey. Don’t forget. Hailey is still out there.” (T)
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I am not giving anyone a pass on anything. I just think that Clint is probably hanging on to life right now by his fingernails. He is only focused on finding Hailey. To think about anything else at this point would undoubtedly send him over the edge.

Sebastian

If Clint is focusing on finding Hailey ... then why is his focus everywhere but on the official  suspect in the investigation ... the official suspect who his daughter lived in fear of night after night as she lay in her bed?

Hailey deserves a father who will make a choice to be a strong advocate on her behalf ... will openly plead with the Shawn Adkins to reveal where he can find his daughter ... not proclaim his innocence..

Both Billie and Clint's distancing of Shawn Adkins makes it impossible for me to have compassion.  My heart breaks for Hailey.  She deserves so much more.

Janet



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 26, 2011, 02:45:55 AM
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9552.msg1320497#msg1320497 Edit to add link and quote box. MB
Quote
"What is behind the respective denials of Clint and Billie in regards to Shawn?  Is there a common connection between Clint, Billie and Shawn ... a common connection which involves illegal wrongdoing?  In other words ... do Clint and Billie realize if Shawn goes down for the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Hailey ... it is a given that they both will be implicated in illegal wrongdoing that implies consequences which will put them behind bars for a long time?"
....
Janet, I don't think there is any connection between Clint and Shawn like that.
Clint is Clint and he is dealing with this as he knows how. We don't have a window into his thoughts either. And it is not going to help anyone if he goes out on national tv or airwaves and gives them both a verbal blast. Clint has to stay his course and let LE do their work. Clint is on a road that I would not want to be on.  
...
Richie Cooper & Clint have known Billie for many years. They don't know what she's been up to for the past few with Shawn and the drugs, etc. Probably very hard to comprehend that someone that you thought of one way for fifteen years has turned into what Billie is right now. It's easy for us to say what we would or would not do as we are all removed from the actual persons in this sad story.  My heart hurt when I heard what Mr. Cooper had to say the other night. Billie has shut these persons who are part of her family out and has aligned herself with Shawn. That says it all, to me. That she isn't a " we" with Hailey's other relatives, but a " we" with that creep.
::rhino::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: texasmom on March 26, 2011, 02:53:30 AM

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cubanarama/2011/03/25/cold-cases--hailey-dunns-blind-drive

This is an interesting program, but a little long.....2 hours

Freida Ratcliff, who is one of the searchers searching for Hailey, went on a drive guided by psychic Gail St.John.  Freida was guided North on Hwy 208 to a white church, then onto County Road 153; then onto County Road 163 on the Mitchell/Scurry County Line. 

Freida said that was the exact spot where LE had said that they should be searching.
It is private property and LE is trying to obtain permission to search along a creek there.
LE says that the area is suspicious due to Shawn's cell phone pings.   Freida lost cell phone contact at that point.

Gail St. John has recovered 37 bodies.

Thanks Magnolia, sounds interesting...I'll listen tomorrow.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 26, 2011, 03:30:05 AM
Hailey's parents for their own respective reasons will not focus suspicion on the main suspect in the disappearance of their daughter despite Shawn Adkins's deception revealed in the affidaviits ... deception regarding his actions and whereabouts on the morning of December 27th.

However ... Hailey's grandmother grasps the reality of the situation ... the reality that Shawn may have harmed her precious granddaughter.  Uncle Richy and Auntie Mary grasp the reality of the situation.

What is behind the respective denials of Clint and Billie in regards to Shawn?  Is there a common connection between Clint, Billie and Shawn ... a common connection which involves illegal wrongdoing?  In other words ... do Clint and Billie realize if Shawn goes down for the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Hailey ... it is a given that they both will be implicated in illegal wrongdoing that implies consequences which will put them behind bars for a long time?

Janet

++++++


Nana

Connie Jones and Mary Cooper for Hailey Dunn on BringThemHomeNow Radio - Feb-23-2011


<snipped>

Host: Why do you think it's so important that Shawn, on "BringThemHomeNow"?

Connie: I think he needs to. I think Shawn needs to talk about it. I think he needs to clear the air and let his voice be out there, let his voice be known, let him express his reasoning, his point of view about things. You know. I'd, I'd sure I know he has to get approval of his lawyer and everything, I don't want to have these feelings about Shawn. I really don't. I don't like these feelings about Shawn. But nobody's seen her walking around or anything that day and then it's like poof, she just poof, and into thin air and she's gone and it's, to me, it just points to Shawn,and he needs to clear things up. He needs to clear things up with why he went back to Ccity that morning.? Why did he quit his job that day of all days?

<snipped>

Host: What do you believe happened with Shawn that day?

Connie: I believe that after he quit his job, he went home and maybe molested her or raped her, and knowing my granddaughter there's no way that she was going to keep quiet about it. Period. I mean she's openly verbal, Hailey is, and I figured he had to shut her up.

<snipped>

http://equinox-ecliptic.blogspot.com/2011/02/connie-jones-and-mary-cooper-for-hailey.html

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/24/bring-them-home-now-exclusive-hailey-dunns-grandma-and-aunt-livemisisng-laurie-partridge-family


Auntie Mary

Connie Jones and Mary Cooper for Hailey Dunn on BringThemHomeNow Radio - Feb-23-2011


<snipped>

Host: Mary, what do you think of Billie and Shawn?

Mary: Well, probably the same as everybody else. I mean, because I just don't understand how she can just sit over there and… with him…

Host: Explain that?

Mary: Well, he's a suspect. And he's living there with her and she does not have any of her kids now because of him and…

Host: How do you feel about Shawn and Billie living together?

Mary: I don't like it. It infuriates me. Because he's a suspect and I just don't understand why he, why she's putting him first and I mean if she would tell us the reason why I would understand it but she doesn't talk to us. So it just infuriates me that she is with her and she's with him and there's ..where's Hailey? I mean..

<snipped>

http://equinox-ecliptic.blogspot.com/2011/02/connie-jones-and-mary-cooper-for-hailey.html

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/24/bring-them-home-now-exclusive-hailey-dunns-grandma-and-aunt-livemisisng-laurie-partridge-family


Uncle Richy

The Bring Them Home Now EXCLUSIVE RICHY COOPER /DUNN CASE ...
23/03/2011 5:00 PM - 2 hrs 2 min


<snipped>

Richy Cooper: My opinion.  Shawn did it.  Shawn tried something of a sexual nature and killed Hailey.  Billie wasn't involved but she knows.  Billie could be scared of Shawn.
Clint is not going to be happy with me. (Paraphrased)

<snipped>

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/23/the-bring-them-home-now-exclusive-richy-cooper-and-missing-billy-disilvestro-serial-killer-on-the-lo


I think Clint's brother-in-law, Richy Cooper, explained this pretty well.
In effect he said that Clint cannot let himself face the fact that Hailey
may be dead..  If he lets himself believe that, he will go all to pieces
I think Clint is only doing what he has to do to keep going until they have
 facts about Hailey.  In the meantime, his whole world is crumbling around him.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 26, 2011, 04:45:23 AM

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cubanarama/2011/03/25/cold-cases--hailey-dunns-blind-drive

This is an interesting program, but a little long.....2 hours

Freida Ratcliff, who is one of the searchers searching for Hailey, went on a drive guided by psychic Gail St.John.  Freida was guided North on Hwy 208 to a white church, then onto County Road 153; then onto County Road 163 on the Mitchell/Scurry County Line. 

Freida said that was the exact spot where LE had said that they should be searching.
It is private property and LE is trying to obtain permission to search along a creek there.
LE says that the area is suspicious due to Shawn's cell phone pings.   Freida lost cell phone contact at that point.

Gail St. John has recovered 37 bodies.   So she says, the record outside of her claims begs to differ

Thanks Magnolia, sounds interesting...I'll listen tomorrow.   ::MonkeyCool::

Magnolia, please dont take this post as a direct response to yours in any negative way but I must express a few things on this because many of you may be unaware of some issues.

The show they had last Tues night was totally unprepared & they had Gail St John inserting herself in this case 3 months in and not without asking for donations at the end.   The hosts couldnt even get the names of pertinent people right much less facts of the case.    Today's live airing of Gail's instructed "blind drive" was sensationalistic.  Why does this psychic constantly go rogue on her "blind drives" without the consent and/or cooperation of LE is beyond my logic or respect for protocol, instead its reckless & self-serving.  She self-proclaims herself to be a psychic detective so I cannot for the life of me understand how she classifies herself as such when she doesnt even work in conjunction with LE.   PS  "blind drives" is her term not one used by other psychics. 

Now, I have to say Freda has the best intentions & she's had boots on the ground for 3 months looking for Hailey.   However, I personally conversed with her advising her that it was not in her best interest or this case to work with this woman.  Obviously, she didnt heed that advise but from her own words to others I've learned that she has since regretted it.  I'm sure she must feel a bit awkward admitting that to me personally nor does she have to but she should know that my angst is not with her because I realize what her main focus is.  Freda's kindness & purpose was taken advantage of not only by GSJ but by those that arranged or encouraged it to transpire, that is where my angst lies.  On today's "blind drive" I can tell you that Freda was led ill advised & apparently was made aware of it on site because I learned elsewhere that she will not be continuing to work with GSJ.   The area she was in is common knowledge for anyone that can put 2 and 2 together & GSJ utilized a google map just as anyone else could have.   That being said, discussing precisely where LE feels searches should occur on the air waves may be heard by certain parties, I shouldnt have to explain what could occur as a result of that.

Im not sure many of you are aware of other shady things associated to GJS, but there is plenty of it including her constant complaints that she was getting her home foreclosed on blah blah blah and then the pitch for donations followed....dont believe me do a wide google search its right there for the reading.  She pitched a show to all the cable networks, even had money vested by sponsors but not one network would take it on yet she advertised it as if it were a done deal.  In addition to that I know a bit about her involvement in the Caylee search via one of the lead detectives.  I cannot share what that is comfortably until after the trial is over but I can tell you as common knowledge that she was brought in by the Anthonys not LE, derive what you will from that.   PS she has gone by Gail and Gale....why the need for that?

Look, we all want answers, Im sure certain family members are looking for any means possible to get those answers BUT those answers have to come responsibly & in the proper chain of custody or justice may not be served to the fullest extent of the law.   I'm just as frustrated as everyone else but I cannot condone or overlook certain conduct in the midst of a criminal investigation...maybe some can, not me.

Why did I stick my neck out, because this case is about a beautiful 13 year old girl who is missing, suspected to be murdered, it should never be about self-serving opportunists, fame seekers & frauds....nor am I ever fooled by them.

I'll end this post with this:   Billie and Shawn where is Hailey?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Sister on March 26, 2011, 08:04:21 AM
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9552.msg1320497#msg1320497 Edit to add link and quote box. MB
Quote
"What is behind the respective denials of Clint and Billie in regards to Shawn?  Is there a common connection between Clint, Billie and Shawn ... a common connection which involves illegal wrongdoing?  In other words ... do Clint and Billie realize if Shawn goes down for the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Hailey ... it is a given that they both will be implicated in illegal wrongdoing that implies consequences which will put them behind bars for a long time?"
....
Janet, I don't think there is any connection between Clint and Shawn like that.
Clint is Clint and he is dealing with this as he knows how. We don't have a window into his thoughts either. And it is not going to help anyone if he goes out on national tv or airwaves and gives them both a verbal blast. Clint has to stay his course and let LE do their work. Clint is on a road that I would not want to be on.  
...
Richie Cooper & Clint have known Billie for many years. They don't know what she's been up to for the past few with Shawn and the drugs, etc. Probably very hard to comprehend that someone that you thought of one way for fifteen years has turned into what Billie is right now. It's easy for us to say what we would or would not do as we are all removed from the actual persons in this sad story.  My heart hurt when I heard what Mr. Cooper had to say the other night. Billie has shut these persons who are part of her family out and has aligned herself with Shawn. That says it all, to me. That she isn't a " we" with Hailey's other relatives, but a " we" with that creep.
::rhino::

Agreed Kat_Gram, agreed.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 26, 2011, 09:41:19 AM
Hi Monkeys!
I have not checked in in a while but I see Hailey's beautiful face on facebook along with Kyrons, Lindseys and so many other sweet angels that have still not been found. Rather than post the long reply, I have shortened it.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9552.msg1320497#msg1320497 Edit to add link and quote box. MB
Quote
What is behind the respective denials of Clint and Billie in regards to Shawn?  Is there a common connection between Clint, Billie and Shawn ... a common connection which involves illegal wrongdoing?  In other words ... do Clint and Billie realize if Shawn goes down for the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Hailey ... it is a given that they both will be implicated in illegal wrongdoing that implies consequences which will put them behind bars for a long time?

Janet

To quote Ronald Cummings, "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer."  So many similarities between the two cases, it is almost freaky.   Here is a synopsis of the script:  Take 3 or more narcissistic, amoral, addicted adults; add offspring; equals tragedy for children.  The title of the show:  Recipe for Disaster.  I am really getting sick of watching the reruns.   ::MonkeyMad::

Janet,
It is my gut feeling that the parents are probably keeping mum about what they do or do not feel with regards to who may have harmed Hailey. There has been so much media involved (thank goodness, FINALLY) with Kyron's cases and others. Let us just say that Clint or even Billie think that Shawn may have harmed Hailey, what good would it do for them to publicly throw him under the bus? I think it is much wiser to keep mum with regards to whatever they may feel and keep the focus on finding Hailey. I would LOVE to see Shawn locked up for the kiddie porn alone, but once he is behind bars, I doubt he would do anymore talking. Just my personal opinion.




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 26, 2011, 09:42:56 AM
Hi Monkeys!
I have not checked in in a while but I see Hailey's beautiful face on facebook along with Kyrons, Lindseys and so many other sweet angels that have still not been found. Rather than post the long reply, I have shortened it.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9552.msg1320497#msg1320497 Edit to add link and quote box. MB
Quote
What is behind the respective denials of Clint and Billie in regards to Shawn?  Is there a common connection between Clint, Billie and Shawn ... a common connection which involves illegal wrongdoing?  In other words ... do Clint and Billie realize if Shawn goes down for the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Hailey ... it is a given that they both will be implicated in illegal wrongdoing that implies consequences which will put them behind bars for a long time?

Janet

Janet,
It is my gut feeling that the parents are probably keeping mum about what they do or do not feel with regards to who may have harmed Hailey. There has been so much media involved (thank goodness, FINALLY) with Kyron's cases and others. Let us just say that Clint or even Billie think that Shawn may have harmed Hailey, what good would it do for them to publicly throw him under the bus? I think it is much wiser to keep mum with regards to whatever they may feel and keep the focus on finding Hailey. I would LOVE to see Shawn locked up for the kiddie porn alone, but once he is behind bars, I doubt he would do anymore talking. Just my personal opinion.



Sorry for squatting in your box ::MonkeyKiss::


To quote Ronald Cummings, "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer."  So many similarities between the two cases, it is almost freaky.   Here is a synopsis of the script:  Take 3 or more narcissistic, amoral, addicted adults; add offspring; equals tragedy for children.  The title of the show:  Recipe for Disaster.  I am really getting sick of watching the reruns.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 26, 2011, 11:46:18 AM
Privately yes, which is what I wanted to discuss with klaas. Publicly, I don't feel like I can right now. Too many ppl read this forum that aren't members.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Innocent/154709951254680

Clinton Dunn
thank yall for this page. billie needs support too.
26 minutes ago

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Why does Clint feel Billie needs support?   Did he not see she was arrested for lying to police about Shawn??   Did he not read nor hear that Billie & Shawn are the only POI's??   Did he not hear Billie saying that she failed the polygraph, specifically on questions about Hailey's location and her own involvement in Hailey's disappearance?


 ::MonkeyEek::      ::MonkeyNoNo::     ::MonkeyMad::

Boston Lady

I have asked myself the same questions since early on.

Could it be that behind the scenes in the investigation there are dots which are being connected and ... the underlying reasons regarding Billie and Clint's distancing of Shawn ... in the disappearance of their precious daughter will be revealed?  On that day ... could it be that Clint's ongoing upholding of Billie will also be clarified?

Until the truth is forthcoming speculation is where it is at.

Janet

++++

The Distancing of Shawn Adkins

Clint Dunn


Adkins "Needs to Help Find Hailey" Father Says
Tuesday, February 08 2011


<snipped>

As the only named suspect in Hailey Dunn's disappearance ends his silence, Hailey's father has something to say about Shawn Adkins.

"Instead of spending money on a lawyer he needs to spend money on trying to find Hailey," said Clint Dunn.

Adkins, Hailey's mother's once live-in boyfriend told KTAB in an exclusive interview that he maintains his innocence, and Clint says although he believes Adkins is sincere.

"He needs to help find Hailey," said Clint, "so he can get the heat off of him."

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=339996


Missing Teen's Father Believes Only Named Suspect Is Innocent
POSTED: 6:23 pm CST February 23, 2011
UPDATED: 8:23 pm CST February 23, 2011


<snipped>

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- The missing Colorado City teen's father speaks out Wednesday on the only named suspect in his daughter's case, Shawn Adkins.

Clint Dunn told KTXS he doesn't believe Adkins is involved in his daughters disappearance, "I want Shawn to get out and help. That's how he will prove his innocence and I think he is innocent."

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26972918/detail.html


Billie Dunn

Billie Jean Dunn Press Conference, January 31, 2011, Transcribed


<snipped>

I do not understand why they seem to have disregarded all of the witnesses who have come forward to say they saw Hailey on Monday, December 27th.

Two of my neighbors came forward to say they saw Hailey in my back yard around noon.

Another neighbor said he saw Hailey and a small dark boy, probably Naomi’s son, two times between 10:30 and noon.

A woman who knows Hailey, and the friend she was supposed to spend the night with, saw them both walking together in front of Alco around 8:30pm. This woman was returning a movie to the Redbox, and passed by them. She still had a receipt, and brought it by and showed it to me the other day, with the date of the 27th, and the time of 8:36.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/01/31/hailey-dunn-billie-jean-dunn-press-conference-january-31-transcription-1/


Pete Kampfer

VIDEO: Billie Dunn Tries To Dispell Rumors Surrounding Her Daughter's Disappearance
POSTED: 6:26 pm CST January 31, 2011
UPDATED: 10:40 pm CST January 31, 2011


<snipped>

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer says the witness statements mentioned by Billie could not be validated.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26683573/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 26, 2011, 12:11:13 PM
Privately yes, which is what I wanted to discuss with klaas. Publicly, I don't feel like I can right now. Too many ppl read this forum that aren't members.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Innocent/154709951254680

Clinton Dunn
thank yall for this page. billie needs support too.
26 minutes ago

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Not to be a nay-sayer, but who knows if it is really Clint writing that post? 

Agree, it could be someone who has access to  his page.   But, that is his official FB page so I tend to think it's him.   

It appears to be Clint.  IMO, neither Billie or Clint have lead an exemplary life and it's possible Billie has something on Clint.  Could be lots of reasons he's defending her.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on March 26, 2011, 12:21:21 PM


http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/03/statement-analysis-of-billie-dunns.html

Friday, March 25, 2011
Statement Analysis of Billie Dunn's Attorney
I read the comment section from that particular post of his. Not going to bring anon comments over here, but there was a anon post that was disturbing. I can't even say or discuss it, but holey moley. It was an anon post, but sometimes these things in this case have been true. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on March 26, 2011, 12:31:09 PM
Capp, I totally agree with you about GSJ and well, everything you wrote in your last posting.
Not that you asked for a vote of confidence, but GSJ has no integrity as we all saw in the Caylee Anthony case.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on March 26, 2011, 01:01:21 PM


http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/03/statement-analysis-of-billie-dunns.html

Friday, March 25, 2011
Statement Analysis of Billie Dunn's Attorney
I read the comment section from that particular post of his. Not going to bring anon comments over here, but there was a anon post that was disturbing. I can't even say or discuss it, but holey moley. It was an anon post, but sometimes these things in this case have been true. 


I saw that and was ready to puke.  Did you see the post about the mask too????  ::MonkeyMad::
Never know if any of its true.. now I have the image of a donkey in my head. I'm going to be sick.
 :smt078 :


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 26, 2011, 01:08:50 PM


http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/03/statement-analysis-of-billie-dunns.html

Friday, March 25, 2011
Statement Analysis of Billie Dunn's Attorney
I read the comment section from that particular post of his. Not going to bring anon comments over here, but there was a anon post that was disturbing. I can't even say or discuss it, but holey moley. It was an anon post, but sometimes these things in this case have been true. 

I have been made aware of that post, too, Magnolia.  Not only do I agree that it's completely inappropriate for this board, but since it was posted by someone who conveniently remained anonymous, in a case that is getting increasing sensationalist and likely to draw in more and more kooks due to the deviant sexual stuff coming out.  So I would expect that the mentions of deviance and bestiality to play with the imaginations of the weirdos and incite them to say, with absolutely no proof or backing, all sorts of unmentionable things.

The way I figure it, it doesn't matter (for now) if there was that type of image except to the LE, who will surely handle things.  Unfortunately, I believe bestiality was made noncriminal in the 70's here in Texas.  It might help in the court, if there are photos like that, to show that she would do anything, no matter how depraved for Shawn, but again - until there's proof, this sort of thing is too bombastic to really consider.  IMO, while at this point nothing would surprise me, I'm giving that comment no merit.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 26, 2011, 01:31:59 PM
Capp, I totally agree with you about GSJ and well, everything you wrote in your last posting.
Not that you asked for a vote of confidence, but GSJ has no integrity as we all saw in the Caylee Anthony case.

Tks Kat, yes she is rather unscrupulous.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 26, 2011, 01:35:10 PM


http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/03/statement-analysis-of-billie-dunns.html

Friday, March 25, 2011
Statement Analysis of Billie Dunn's Attorney
I read the comment section from that particular post of his. Not going to bring anon comments over here, but there was a anon post that was disturbing. I can't even say or discuss it, but holey moley. It was an anon post, but sometimes these things in this case have been true. 

I have been made aware of that post, too, Magnolia.  Not only do I agree that it's completely inappropriate for this board, but since it was posted by someone who conveniently remained anonymous, in a case that is getting increasing sensationalist and likely to draw in more and more kooks due to the deviant sexual stuff coming out.  So I would expect that the mentions of deviance and bestiality to play with the imaginations of the weirdos and incite them to say, with absolutely no proof or backing, all sorts of unmentionable things.

Ive heard about it, didnt read it.   My opinion of PH has deteriorated rapidly & certainly do not give someone speaking anonymously any merit as a general rule.

The way I figure it, it doesn't matter (for now) if there was that type of image except to the LE, who will surely handle things.  Unfortunately, I believe bestiality was made noncriminal in the 70's here in Texas.  It might help in the court, if there are photos like that, to show that she would do anything, no matter how depraved for Shawn, but again - until there's proof, this sort of thing is too bombastic to really consider.  IMO, while at this point nothing would surprise me, I'm giving that comment no merit.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 26, 2011, 01:35:53 PM


http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/03/statement-analysis-of-billie-dunns.html

Friday, March 25, 2011
Statement Analysis of Billie Dunn's Attorney
I read the comment section from that particular post of his. Not going to bring anon comments over here, but there was a anon post that was disturbing. I can't even say or discuss it, but holey moley. It was an anon post, but sometimes these things in this case have been true. 

I have been made aware of that post, too, Magnolia.  Not only do I agree that it's completely inappropriate for this board, but since it was posted by someone who conveniently remained anonymous, in a case that is getting increasing sensationalist and likely to draw in more and more kooks due to the deviant sexual stuff coming out.  So I would expect that the mentions of deviance and bestiality to play with the imaginations of the weirdos and incite them to say, with absolutely no proof or backing, all sorts of unmentionable things.

Ive heard about it, didnt read it.   My opinion of PH has deteriorated rapidly & certainly do not give someone speaking anonymously any merit as a general rule.

The way I figure it, it doesn't matter (for now) if there was that type of image except to the LE, who will surely handle things.  Unfortunately, I believe bestiality was made noncriminal in the 70's here in Texas.  It might help in the court, if there are photos like that, to show that she would do anything, no matter how depraved for Shawn, but again - until there's proof, this sort of thing is too bombastic to really consider.  IMO, while at this point nothing would surprise me, I'm giving that comment no merit.

O dear that messed royally lol

My comment is:  Ive heard about it, didnt read it.   My opinion of PH has deteriorated rapidly & certainly do not give someone speaking anonymously any merit as a general rule.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 26, 2011, 01:35:56 PM
I really doubt that Billie has anything on Clint, however I have been wrong before. I think that the parents are probably following advice to "appear" to have a united front in order to find Hailey. I have seen this before with parents of missing children when you know that the parents are truly anything but "united".

With regards to GSJ, I agree completely with your post Capp. I put GSJ in the same categorie as Michelle Bart. Another opportunist that drives me bonkers.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 26, 2011, 01:55:28 PM
I really doubt that Billie has anything on Clint, however I have been wrong before. I think that the parents are probably following advice to "appear" to have a united front in order to find Hailey. I have seen this before with parents of missing children when you know that the parents are truly anything but "united".

With regards to GSJ, I agree completely with your post Capp. I put GSJ in the same categorie as Michelle Bart. Another opportunist that drives me bonkers.

I would respectfully (and with a big hug of welcome back btw) disagree that BD doesn't have anything on Clint.  I see BD as being the type of person who makes sure she has things on people around her - in case of survival need.  I personally feel that BD is probably doing the united front thing for a number of reasons, foremost the need to look like a normal, loving family.  But I also suspect she, for the sake of controlling and perhaps preventing the very collapse of her little world, also does this to make sure she has CD firmly in hand. 

With most parents, let's say Kyron's parents, I would not think this - I would be relieved at the united front.  But in the sake of CD and BD it seems less like a "we" than a BD has CD doing what she feels best.  I think CD agrees with it both for the right reasons, and perhaps because of a lingering sense of dread about things that involve his personal habits.  Let's face it - he has been in the habit for years of hiding pot.  He has only had to come out and being forthright about it because he was confronted about it, couldn't deny it, and (let's hope...) didn't want to lie - particularly when everyone would know he was lying anyway.  Those habits die hard.  There has already been talk that he feels he has to pacify BD; this is probably a long-term relationship dynamic.  THere have even been straight-out comments that if he said anything, there would be hell to pay.

So yeah, I think she DOES have stuff on him - even if it's little stuff, just petty humiliations to his pride.  And to him, pride seems to be a big thing as it would be with many men. 

That's just my opinions of it, of course.  In the end, I guess we'll see - it might be you're right, or I am, or a little of both - who knows.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 26, 2011, 02:10:07 PM
I really doubt that Billie has anything on Clint, however I have been wrong before. I think that the parents are probably following advice to "appear" to have a united front in order to find Hailey. I have seen this before with parents of missing children when you know that the parents are truly anything but "united".

With regards to GSJ, I agree completely with your post Capp. I put GSJ in the same categorie as Michelle Bart. Another opportunist that drives me bonkers.

Its so sad that over the years it seems all to prevalent just how many that exist in an area you would hope its less likely to see, very disturbing.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 26, 2011, 02:14:11 PM
I really doubt that Billie has anything on Clint, however I have been wrong before. I think that the parents are probably following advice to "appear" to have a united front in order to find Hailey. I have seen this before with parents of missing children when you know that the parents are truly anything but "united".

With regards to GSJ, I agree completely with your post Capp. I put GSJ in the same categorie as Michelle Bart. Another opportunist that drives me bonkers.

I would respectfully (and with a big hug of welcome back btw) disagree that BD doesn't have anything on Clint.  I see BD as being the type of person who makes sure she has things on people around her - in case of survival need.  I personally feel that BD is probably doing the united front thing for a number of reasons, foremost the need to look like a normal, loving family.  But I also suspect she, for the sake of controlling and perhaps preventing the very collapse of her little world, also does this to make sure she has CD firmly in hand. 

With most parents, let's say Kyron's parents, I would not think this - I would be relieved at the united front.  But in the sake of CD and BD it seems less like a "we" than a BD has CD doing what she feels best.  I think CD agrees with it both for the right reasons, and perhaps because of a lingering sense of dread about things that involve his personal habits.  Let's face it - he has been in the habit for years of hiding pot.  He has only had to come out and being forthright about it because he was confronted about it, couldn't deny it, and (let's hope...) didn't want to lie - particularly when everyone would know he was lying anyway.  Those habits die hard.  There has already been talk that he feels he has to pacify BD; this is probably a long-term relationship dynamic.  THere have even been straight-out comments that if he said anything, there would be hell to pay.

So yeah, I think she DOES have stuff on him - even if it's little stuff, just petty humiliations to his pride.  And to him, pride seems to be a big thing as it would be with many men. 

That's just my opinions of it, of course.  In the end, I guess we'll see - it might be you're right, or I am, or a little of both - who knows.

Hi Starwyn,
Billie may be the type of person who holds on to things to use at a convenient date, I don't know. But, do you really think that Clint is staying mum about Billie and Shawn because Billie has something really big on him?

I admit that negligent parents drive me crazy! I have posted on another blog about my dislike for the mother of another missing child because of her neglect. The thing is that I have learned that not everything that we hear is always true and some of the things that we hear are highly exaggerated. If it is true that Hailey was telling people that she was afraid of Shawn, why didn't someone act on it? Did Billie hear this as well? Yes, we read about these stories over and over and over. There appears that many people are culpable with regards to Hailey being missing. I just hope that Clint can stay focused and away from any bad things that may make him spiral out of control. From everything that I have read, he has been dilegent in his search for his daughter.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 26, 2011, 03:20:33 PM

Hi Starwyn,
Billie may be the type of person who holds on to things to use at a convenient date, I don't know. But, do you really think that Clint is staying mum about Billie and Shawn because Billie has something really big on him?

I admit that negligent parents drive me crazy! I have posted on another blog about my dislike for the mother of another missing child because of her neglect. The thing is that I have learned that not everything that we hear is always true and some of the things that we hear are highly exaggerated. If it is true that Hailey was telling people that she was afraid of Shawn, why didn't someone act on it? Did Billie hear this as well? Yes, we read about these stories over and over and over. There appears that many people are culpable with regards to Hailey being missing. I just hope that Clint can stay focused and away from any bad things that may make him spiral out of control. From everything that I have read, he has been dilegent in his search for his daughter.

Sebastian

If Clint was remaining "mum" about Shawn and Billie ... I would give him the benefit of the doubt that he was working behind the scenes assisting investigators in the building of a case again Shawn.  However ... when Clint undermines the focus of the investigation and proclaims the innocence of both Shawn and Billie ... I just shake me head.  I want to weep.  It is such a betrayal of Hailey.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 26, 2011, 03:30:26 PM
::snipping2::

Hi Starwyn,
Billie may be the type of person who holds on to things to use at a convenient date, I don't know. But, do you really think that Clint is staying mum about Billie and Shawn because Billie has something really big on him?

I admit that negligent parents drive me crazy! I have posted on another blog about my dislike for the mother of another missing child because of her neglect. The thing is that I have learned that not everything that we hear is always true and some of the things that we hear are highly exaggerated. If it is true that Hailey was telling people that she was afraid of Shawn, why didn't someone act on it? Did Billie hear this as well? Yes, we read about these stories over and over and over. There appears that many people are culpable with regards to Hailey being missing. I just hope that Clint can stay focused and away from any bad things that may make him spiral out of control. From everything that I have read, he has been dilegent in his search for his daughter.

I don't personally believe that Clint is staying mum because of BD having anything on him.  I think he is staying mum on Shawn for exactly the very reason he said he is:  LE is already focusing on Shawn, (and really they're the only ones that can do anything - legal - about Shawn), and that if he focuses on the Shawn-killed-Hailey theory, then he loses focus on the hope that Hailey might still be alive, and that going down the dead road is really overwhelming and might crush him.  I also believe he feels that if he goes down that road, he will essentially be abandoning his baby girl.    But my statement was in answer to the question of whether or not BD would have things on CD - so that's where all of that came from.

I, too, have a huge issue with negligent parents - particularly because I have long wanted, and tried, to have children but cannot.  I had cervical cancer when I was 25, and though I am more than fine now, there was a period of time where I didn't even know if children would be an option ever.  My doctor certainly advised that because of other inflammatory issues that it wasn't likely.  Until that point, I didn't want kids - until the point where I realized "you might not have a choice".... then suddenly I wanted 30 children!  ;)  In time, I realized I'd settle for one or two rather than 30, and over time I've had 0.  So to see parents that don't even treasure what they CAN have, their beautiful children, their little lives that they were blessed with the responsibility of... wow, it just makes me broil!  I don't kid myself into thinking I would have been a perfect parents, but come on - I'm a better parent to my dog than some people are to their human children!

I am like you - I wonder about Hailey talking to BD about SA.  I suspect that conversation line got nixed in a not very pleasant way early on in the relationship.   I also suspect that going further to say she was scared of SA, BD would have tuned her out if not yelled at her.  Everyone else (except granny) certainly tuned her out, or didn't place the type of importance on it that it warranted.  Of course, hindsite is 20-20, but EVERYONE who isn't living under a rock these days knows that there is a certain amount of gambling bringing a boyfriend to live in a house with pretty little girls.  I hate to be so bold to say it, but there it is.  There are tons of boyfriends and then husbands who are fine - and maybe even better dad's than the 'factor equipped father', but still - such a risk.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 26, 2011, 03:50:15 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=355696

Sunday Vigil Planned in Honor of Hailey Dunn

Sunday marks three months since 13-year-old Hailey Dunn vanished from her home in the small town of Colorado City.
The community will gather at 8 p.m. Sunday at Colorado City's Ruddick Park to pray for the girl's safe return.

Hailey's father, Clint Dunn, says he'll be there from 5 p.m. to 9 p.m. and is encouraging a strong turnout.
 ::snipping2::


Since most of us cannot be there physically, let's all join in by lighting a candle & saying a prayer at 8PM cen that would be 9PM est  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 26, 2011, 04:03:25 PM
RICHY COOPER

Part 4: Missing Texas teen Hailey Dunn’s uncle Richy Cooper speaks out
March 26th, 2011 2:09 am ET


<snipped>

What does Richy think happened to Hailey?

Richy said like his daughter, he’s angry. He said, “Somebody knows – fall on your sword, whoever it is. Do the right thing.”

Bee asked, “What do you believe happened to Hailey?”

Richy said, “Well, wow. I think Shawn did it.

"I think he wanted to try something with her of a sexual nature, she fought back, and he had to control her.

"I don’t think he could have controlled her. I don’t think he could have even tried to hide it from Billie.

"I don’t think that as arrogant as he seems to be that he would have tried to hide it from Billie.”

“I pray that I’m wrong. But I don’t feel that I am. It’s my opinion, that’s all that it is.

"If it brings me some hate mail, yeah, bring it.

"I don’t think Billie was involved but I think she knows. I think she knows the what; I don’t think she knows the where, when or how but I think she knows what happened. That’s my opinion.

“Clint’s probably going to beat me up over this because that means Hailey is not fixing to walk down the street with ribbons in her hair if I’m right,” Richy said.

Richy told Examiner.com Thursday, “I don’t think she [Billie] designed the deal, but I do think she’s the designer of the cover-up. That’s just my opinion.”

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/part-4-missing-texas-teen-hailey-dunn-s-uncle-richy-cooper-speaks-out

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/23/the-bring-them-home-now-exclusive-richy-cooper-and-missing-billy-disilvestro-serial-killer-on-the-lo


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 26, 2011, 04:17:54 PM
Transcript - BTHN Interview - March 23, 2011 - Richy Cooper

Part 1: Missing Texas teen Hailey Dunn's uncle Richy Cooper speaks out
March 25th, 2011

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/part-1-missing-texas-teen-hailey-dunn-s-uncle-richy-cooper-speaks-out


Part 2: Missing Texas teen Hailey Dunn’s uncle Richy Cooper speaks out
March 26th, 2011

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/part-2-missing-texas-teen-hailey-dunn-s-uncle-richy-cooper-speaks-out


Part 3: Missing Texas teen Hailey Dunn’s uncle Richy Cooper speaks out
March 26th, 2011

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/part-3-missing-texas-teen-hailey-dunn-s-uncle-richy-cooper-speaks-out


Part 4: Missing Texas teen Hailey Dunn’s uncle Richy Cooper speaks out
March 26th, 2011

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/part-4-missing-texas-teen-hailey-dunn-s-uncle-richy-cooper-speaks-out


Part 5: Missing Texas teen Hailey Dunn’s uncle Richy Cooper speaks out
March 26th, 2011

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/part-5-missing-texas-teen-hailey-dunn-s-uncle-richy-cooper-speaks-out


http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/23/the-bring-them-home-now-exclusive-richy-cooper-and-missing-billy-disilvestro-serial-killer-on-the-lo



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 26, 2011, 04:27:00 PM
Transcript - BTHN Interview - March 23, 2011 - Richy Cooper

Part 1: Missing Texas teen Hailey Dunn's uncle Richy Cooper speaks out
March 25th, 2011

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/part-1-missing-texas-teen-hailey-dunn-s-uncle-richy-cooper-speaks-out


Part 2: Missing Texas teen Hailey Dunn’s uncle Richy Cooper speaks out
March 26th, 2011

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/part-2-missing-texas-teen-hailey-dunn-s-uncle-richy-cooper-speaks-out


Part 3: Missing Texas teen Hailey Dunn’s uncle Richy Cooper speaks out
March 26th, 2011

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/part-3-missing-texas-teen-hailey-dunn-s-uncle-richy-cooper-speaks-out


Part 4: Missing Texas teen Hailey Dunn’s uncle Richy Cooper speaks out
March 26th, 2011

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/part-4-missing-texas-teen-hailey-dunn-s-uncle-richy-cooper-speaks-out


Part 5: Missing Texas teen Hailey Dunn’s uncle Richy Cooper speaks out
March 26th, 2011

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/part-5-missing-texas-teen-hailey-dunn-s-uncle-richy-cooper-speaks-out


http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/23/the-bring-them-home-now-exclusive-richy-cooper-and-missing-billy-disilvestro-serial-killer-on-the-lo



Part 1: The Children
Part 2: The parents
Part 3: Billie Dunn and Shawn Adkins
Part 4: Hailey’s case
Part 5: Richy Cooper’s message to Billie Dunn and Shawn Adkins



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 26, 2011, 08:12:46 PM

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cubanarama/2011/03/25/cold-cases--hailey-dunns-blind-drive

This is an interesting program, but a little long.....2 hours

Freida Ratcliff, who is one of the searchers searching for Hailey, went on a drive guided by psychic Gail St.John.  Freida was guided North on Hwy 208 to a white church, then onto County Road 153; then onto County Road 163 on the Mitchell/Scurry County Line. 

Freida said that was the exact spot where LE had said that they should be searching.
It is private property and LE is trying to obtain permission to search along a creek there.
LE says that the area is suspicious due to Shawn's cell phone pings.   Freida lost cell phone contact at that point.

Gail St. John has recovered 37 bodies.   So she says, the record outside of her claims begs to differ

Thanks Magnolia, sounds interesting...I'll listen tomorrow.   ::MonkeyCool::

Magnolia, please dont take this post as a direct response to yours in any negative way but I must express a few things on this because many of you may be unaware of some issues.

The show they had last Tues night was totally unprepared & they had Gail St John inserting herself in this case 3 months in and not without asking for donations at the end.   The hosts couldnt even get the names of pertinent people right much less facts of the case.    Today's live airing of Gail's instructed "blind drive" was sensationalistic.  Why does this psychic constantly go rogue on her "blind drives" without the consent and/or cooperation of LE is beyond my logic or respect for protocol, instead its reckless & self-serving.  She self-proclaims herself to be a psychic detective so I cannot for the life of me understand how she classifies herself as such when she doesnt even work in conjunction with LE.   PS  "blind drives" is her term not one used by other psychics. 

Now, I have to say Freda has the best intentions & she's had boots on the ground for 3 months looking for Hailey.   However, I personally conversed with her advising her that it was not in her best interest or this case to work with this woman.  Obviously, she didnt heed that advise but from her own words to others I've learned that she has since regretted it.  I'm sure she must feel a bit awkward admitting that to me personally nor does she have to but she should know that my angst is not with her because I realize what her main focus is.  Freda's kindness & purpose was taken advantage of not only by GSJ but by those that arranged or encouraged it to transpire, that is where my angst lies.  On today's "blind drive" I can tell you that Freda was led ill advised & apparently was made aware of it on site because I learned elsewhere that she will not be continuing to work with GSJ.   The area she was in is common knowledge for anyone that can put 2 and 2 together & GSJ utilized a google map just as anyone else could have.   That being said, discussing precisely where LE feels searches should occur on the air waves may be heard by certain parties, I shouldnt have to explain what could occur as a result of that.

Im not sure many of you are aware of other shady things associated to GJS, but there is plenty of it including her constant complaints that she was getting her home foreclosed on blah blah blah and then the pitch for donations followed....dont believe me do a wide google search its right there for the reading.  She pitched a show to all the cable networks, even had money vested by sponsors but not one network would take it on yet she advertised it as if it were a done deal.  In addition to that I know a bit about her involvement in the Caylee search via one of the lead detectives.  I cannot share what that is comfortably until after the trial is over but I can tell you as common knowledge that she was brought in by the Anthonys not LE, derive what you will from that.   PS she has gone by Gail and Gale....why the need for that?

Look, we all want answers, Im sure certain family members are looking for any means possible to get those answers BUT those answers have to come responsibly & in the proper chain of custody or justice may not be served to the fullest extent of the law.   I'm just as frustrated as everyone else but I cannot condone or overlook certain conduct in the midst of a criminal investigation...maybe some can, not me.

Why did I stick my neck out, because this case is about a beautiful 13 year old girl who is missing, suspected to be murdered, it should never be about self-serving opportunists, fame seekers & frauds....nor am I ever fooled by them.

I'll end this post with this:   Billie and Shawn where is Hailey?


I guess I have never figured out how to tell which psychic can be trusted.
I'll work on that.
Freda seemed truly emotional.
Isn't Bea on Bring Them Home Now a psychic?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 26, 2011, 09:13:13 PM
If David was removed by CPS on March 19th as a result of illegal drugs being discovered in the home ... maybe Clint's criminal record aquired through ongoing illegal drug possession was the reason he did not attempt to gain custody of Hailey.

The respective selfish lifestyle choices of both Clint and Billie imply that the well-being of their children was not primary consideration.

Janet
_______

Billy Dunn

Part 1: Missing Texas teen Hailey Dunn's uncle Richy Cooper speaks out
March 25th, 2011


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The host of BTHN asked Richy what, in his opinion, is the reason David was taken away by CPS. Richy said, “Unfortunately I think there was drug use in that house and I think CPS discovered it. I don’t think they did it on their own, I think they had help discovering it.”

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http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/part-1-missing-texas-teen-hailey-dunn-s-uncle-richy-cooper-speaks-out

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/23/the-bring-them-home-now-exclusive-richy-cooper-and-missing-billy-disilvestro-serial-killer-on-the-lo


Mother of missing West Texas cheerleader arrested
March 18, 2011


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Jail officials say the 33-year-old Dunn was booked into custody and charged with hindering apprehension and prosecution, possession of dangerous drugs and obstructing justice. All are misdemeanors.

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http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=14275179


Clint Dunn

Hailey Dunn: Unfolding a story of a missing teenager and her family
By Brian Bethel
Published Saturday, January 8, 2011


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A search of website publicdata.com reveals no criminal histories for Billie Jean Dunn or for Shawn Adkins. Clint Dunn, however, has multiple arrests, starting in 1994 for burglary of a building, a state jail felony. Following that are subsequent arrests in 1998 for possession of marijuana, under 2 ounces, one in March 1999 for driving with a suspended license.

He was arrested again Jan. 30, 2010, by Snyder police for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces. And he was arrested at his home Dec. 29, again for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces, and a Scurry County warrant.

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http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/08/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/?partner=RSS


December 31, 2009 - Clint Dunn and Brian Glasco - Getting High

http://www.myspace.com/freaker13/videos


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 26, 2011, 10:29:05 PM
After three months, no news in Colorado City teen's disappearance
By Celinda Emison
Published Saturday, March 26, 2011


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Shawn Adkins, the former live-in boyfriend off Billie Jean Dunn, remains the only named suspect in the case. Police have found thousands of images of child pornography and bestiality on computers confiscated from his mother's home in Big Spring and from memory stick confiscated from the Dunn home. Investigators have confiscated computers from his grandmother's home in Dunn as well as other electronic items.

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http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/26/after-three-months-no-news-in-colorado-city/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: melisb on March 26, 2011, 11:19:45 PM
Good evening Janet...I think the reason for CD not trying legally to get custody of Hailey recently is:
1.  No work/money, he's a landscaper who works for himself and not much work during winter
2.  No home he could claim, remember his gf Naomi had secured a home under a government program and Clint wasn't supposed to be there so he could not move to another home without money
3.  Not having a home, he had no address in which to inform the court he would be bringing her to
4.  He had another baby on the way which when 1, 2, 3 and 4 are all added up it's a good start as to why he probably couldn't get her and we both know BD wasn't just going to let her go live with Clint.  Noooo, how dare her only daughter choose to go live with her Dad!  I'm sure if it was BD's idea she'd have sent her to Clint weather or not Clint could have physically been able to place her in the home he was staying.  To her, IMO it was and ego issue.  Oh, wait a minute, then BD wouldn't have a little girl for SA to stare at through the crack of her door and she definately wouldn't want him to find another woman with a more available little girl now would she?  OMG, I just made myself sick, THEY make me sick.  All this is MOO.  I still believe SA told BD of his fantasies of Hailey and she allowed it and maybe even a little role playing here and there but I still believe she was jealous of Hailey!!!!!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 26, 2011, 11:23:58 PM
When the affidavits that reveal Shawns deception and lies regarding his actions and whereabouts on the morning of December 27th are considered and ... when the 2:00 PM text message to Mary Beth is considered ... why has evidence gleaned from cell phone records not been presented to the Grand Jury?  For crying out loud ... it has now been three months since Hailey went missing.

In my opinion ... if the origin of the 2:00 PM text message sent to Mary Beth on the afternoon of December 27th was in the Big Spring area ... investigators in the Hailey Dunn case have "the smoking gun" in their possession ... "the smoking gun" that is aimed straight at Shawn Adkins.

I contend if the origin of that 2:00 PM text message had been in Colorado City ... Billy Dunn would have embraced the revelation as proof that Hailey was alive while Shawn was still in Big Spring.  However ... in all her interviews ... the text message is a non-issue.  Why?

Janet

+++++

The Smoking Gun?

Investigators Won't Release Cell Records in Dunn Case
Friday, February 18 2011


Though search warrant affidavits revealed a timeline of calls made by key players in the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, we likely won't know anytime soon to whom the calls in question were made.
 
The City of Colorado City has denied a request made under the Freedom of Information Act to release those cell phone records.

An affidavit from Mitchell County shows investigators have received records from Verizon pertaining to phones used by Hailey's mother Billie Dunn and her live-in boyfriend Shawn Adkins. The Mitchell County Sheriff's Office says those records were handed over to Colorado City Police.

In not releasing the records, Colorado City cited a portion of the Freedom of Information Act that reads:

"Information held by a law enforcement agency or prosecutor due to the investigation or prosecution of a crime is excepted from the requirements of Section 550.021, seq."

In search warrants, police indicated Adkins, the only named suspect in the case, made several cell phone calls on the morning of Hailey's disappearance. Affidavits showed Adkins' phone was used in Colorado City from 6:35 to 6:56 a.m. It was then used in Big Spring several times between 9:38 a.m. and 2:40 p.m.

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Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer confirmed that law enforcement was examining a text message but wouldn't elaborate beyond that point.

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http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=343746


Mom of Hailey's Friend on the Sleepover That Never Happened
Sunday, January 23 2011


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(Cecilia) Garcia says on the day Hailey disappeared, Mary beth received a text message that said "what are you doing?"

She says the message was sent from Hailey's mother's cell phone at about 2 o'clock, which Hailey always used, but Garcia says she worries that there is no evidence to prove Hailey sent that message.

The Garcia family says authorities have taken that text message as evidence in the investigation.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=334376


Missing Hailey Dunn: Mysterious Text Message Before Disappearance
Jan 26, 2011


A text message was sent from Hailey's cell phone at 2:00 p.m., to her friend, on the date of her disappearance.
   
A month later, Hailey Dunn is still missing and the investigation continues. No arrests have been made in connection with her disappearance, and Shawn Adkins remains the primary “person of interest”.

A lot of the information obtained in the investigation has been accessible by the public, via press conferences, the family and Search Warrant Affidavits, unsealed to the public; however, one piece of information that remains unexplained is the mysterious text message discovered on Hailey’s cell phone on the date she was reported missing.

Hailey’s mother, Billie Dunn, mentioned the text message on CNN’s Nancy Grace, January 18, 2011. Billie Dunn said, prior to the investigators taking the cell phone, she had seen the message; however, there was no response to the text, by the friend.

The text message, according to law enforcement spokesperson, Pete Kampfer, was sent, from Hailey's cell phone, to a friend at 2:00p.m., December 27, 2010, the date of her disappearance. The text message simply stated “WYD”, (What are you doing?). Kampfer stated that no information concerning the text would be released, rather would be “held close to the investigation”.

There is no confirmation as to whether the message was received by the friend. Law enforcement are also not revealing the cell tower’s location of the “ping” for this text. This is significant, in that the cell tower’s location of the “ping” would indicate if the message was being sent from the same location Adkins’ cell phone records indicate or a different location.

Law enforcement have the cell phone records from this Verizon account, pursuant to the Search Warrant for the cell phone records of Billie Dunn, as well as for Shawn Adkins. Therefore, Adkins’ cell phone “pings”, at the time the message was sent, were being received by a cell tower in Big Spring, where his mother lives.

Adkins’ Verizon cell phone records indicate that he did not drive directly to his mother’s house in Big Spring, after leaving his employment, at approximately 6:10 a.m., as he first stated to investigators. His cell phone “pings” show his location to be in the area of Colorado City, Texas, the location of Hailey’s house, from 6:35 am to 6:56 am, with a break in usage until 9:38 am to 2:40 pm. At 2:40, his cell phone pings show his location to be in Big Spring, Texas. This is 40 minutes after the message was sent from Hailey’s cell phone.

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http://www.suite101.com/content/missing-hailey-dunn-mysterious-text-message-before-she-disappear-a338384




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 26, 2011, 11:44:44 PM
Good evening Janet...I think the reason for CD not trying legally to get custody of Hailey recently is:
1.  No work/money, he's a landscaper who works for himself and not much work during winter
2.  No home he could claim, remember his gf Naomi had secured a home under a government program and Clint wasn't supposed to be there so he could not move to another home without money
3.  Not having a home, he had no address in which to inform the court he would be bringing her to
4.  He had another baby on the way which when 1, 2, 3 and 4 are all added up it's a good start as to why he probably couldn't get her and we both know BD wasn't just going to let her go live with Clint.  Noooo, how dare her only daughter choose to go live with her Dad!  I'm sure if it was BD's idea she'd have sent her to Clint weather or not Clint could have physically been able to place her in the home he was staying.  To her, IMO it was and ego issue.  Oh, wait a minute, then BD wouldn't have a little girl for SA to stare at through the crack of her door and she definately wouldn't want him to find another woman with a more available little girl now would she?  OMG, I just made myself sick, THEY make me sick.  All this is MOO.  I still believe SA told BD of his fantasies of Hailey and she allowed it and maybe even a little role playing here and there but I still believe she was jealous of Hailey!!!!!

melisb

Thanks for the response but ... we are not on the same page.

If illegal drug use within the home is the reason that David was removed ... it only stands to reason the Clint's drug possession record would prevent him from gaining custody of Haile.

Clint knew one year ago that Shawn Adkins had threaten his life ... Billie's life and ... Hailey's life.  Clint knew of Billie's abuse of prescription drugs.  Also ... Clint's mother must have shared the fear Hailey had of Shawn ... a fear the little girl was forced to endure night after night while she lay in her bed.

Nevertheless ... Clint continued to do illegal drugs which created an ongoing criminal record.  He should have been doing what needed to be done to put himself in a position where he could attempt to gain custody of the little girl who wanted to live with him to escape the unsafe environment in the house across the field.

Clint and Billie did not deserved the treasure God has blessed them with ... a treasure beyond worth ... a treasure that need to be protected.

Good Night Monkeys

Janet
8:40 PM PT


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 27, 2011, 12:12:08 AM
::snipping2::

Hi Starwyn,
Billie may be the type of person who holds on to things to use at a convenient date, I don't know. But, do you really think that Clint is staying mum about Billie and Shawn because Billie has something really big on him?

I admit that negligent parents drive me crazy! I have posted on another blog about my dislike for the mother of another missing child because of her neglect. The thing is that I have learned that not everything that we hear is always true and some of the things that we hear are highly exaggerated. If it is true that Hailey was telling people that she was afraid of Shawn, why didn't someone act on it? Did Billie hear this as well? Yes, we read about these stories over and over and over. There appears that many people are culpable with regards to Hailey being missing. I just hope that Clint can stay focused and away from any bad things that may make him spiral out of control. From everything that I have read, he has been dilegent in his search for his daughter.

I don't personally believe that Clint is staying mum because of BD having anything on him.  I think he is staying mum on Shawn for exactly the very reason he said he is:  LE is already focusing on Shawn, (and really they're the only ones that can do anything - legal - about Shawn), and that if he focuses on the Shawn-killed-Hailey theory, then he loses focus on the hope that Hailey might still be alive, and that going down the dead road is really overwhelming and might crush him.  I also believe he feels that if he goes down that road, he will essentially be abandoning his baby girl.    But my statement was in answer to the question of whether or not BD would have things on CD - so that's where all of that came from.

I, too, have a huge issue with negligent parents - particularly because I have long wanted, and tried, to have children but cannot.  I had cervical cancer when I was 25, and though I am more than fine now, there was a period of time where I didn't even know if children would be an option ever.  My doctor certainly advised that because of other inflammatory issues that it wasn't likely.  Until that point, I didn't want kids - until the point where I realized "you might not have a choice".... then suddenly I wanted 30 children!  ;)  In time, I realized I'd settle for one or two rather than 30, and over time I've had 0.  So to see parents that don't even treasure what they CAN have, their beautiful children, their little lives that they were blessed with the responsibility of... wow, it just makes me broil!  I don't kid myself into thinking I would have been a perfect parents, but come on - I'm a better parent to my dog than some people are to their human children!

I am like you - I wonder about Hailey talking to BD about SA.  I suspect that conversation line got nixed in a not very pleasant way early on in the relationship.   I also suspect that going further to say she was scared of SA, BD would have tuned her out if not yelled at her.  Everyone else (except granny) certainly tuned her out, or didn't place the type of importance on it that it warranted.  Of course, hindsite is 20-20, but EVERYONE who isn't living under a rock these days knows that there is a certain amount of gambling bringing a boyfriend to live in a house with pretty little girls.  I hate to be so bold to say it, but there it is.  There are tons of boyfriends and then husbands who are fine - and maybe even better dad's than the 'factor equipped father', but still - such a risk.

Hi Starwyn,
I am so sorry that you were not able to have a child. Believe me, I understand! I went through all sorts of fertility tests etc and then was put on fertility drugs. All the years that I tried to get pregnant, I could not believe the parents that were fertile yet did not appreciate the blessings that they had. I finally got pregnant in my thirties and my baby is everything to me. She knows I follow these boards and it drives her crazy. She thinks I am already too overprotective, LOL! I was blessed with a mother who always put her children first. My mom was loving and caring and protective. I see so many disfunctional parents that were raised by disfunctional parents. I wish that there was a way to stop the cycle. One of my best friends is a social worker and she had to stop working with children. She was sickened by the way that the system put children back in unsafe homes. I don't want to get political, but our government squanders so much money away but very little of it is spent to protect our most prized assets, our kids. It all just breaks my heart!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 27, 2011, 12:17:59 AM

Hi Starwyn,
Billie may be the type of person who holds on to things to use at a convenient date, I don't know. But, do you really think that Clint is staying mum about Billie and Shawn because Billie has something really big on him?

I admit that negligent parents drive me crazy! I have posted on another blog about my dislike for the mother of another missing child because of her neglect. The thing is that I have learned that not everything that we hear is always true and some of the things that we hear are highly exaggerated. If it is true that Hailey was telling people that she was afraid of Shawn, why didn't someone act on it? Did Billie hear this as well? Yes, we read about these stories over and over and over. There appears that many people are culpable with regards to Hailey being missing. I just hope that Clint can stay focused and away from any bad things that may make him spiral out of control. From everything that I have read, he has been dilegent in his search for his daughter.

Sebastian

If Clint was remaining "mum" about Shawn and Billie ... I would give him the benefit of the doubt that he was working behind the scenes assisting investigators in the building of a case again Shawn.  However ... when Clint undermines the focus of the investigation and proclaims the innocence of both Shawn and Billie ... I just shake me head.  I want to weep.  It is such a betrayal of Hailey.

Janet


Hi Janet,
I understand what you are saying. I just think that our reality is not Clint's reality. What I am trying to say is that what seems so obvious to us, may be something that Clint is not willing to face. For Clint to admit that Shawn harmed Hailey than in essence he would be giving up on the hope that Hailey is still alive. I just don't think that he is able to do that. I too would like to think that Hailey is alive and well somewhere. I cannot tell you how much I believed that Amber was still alive. I truly felt it with every part of my being. Carrie refused to ever give up hope that Amber was not alive until her body was recovered. Without hope, it makes it pretty hard for these parents to get out of bed in the morning and face another day.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on March 27, 2011, 12:24:28 AM
As for these psychics.....I think they are all full of hooey !
Not one has done a thing for any of these cases.
I do feel that we all can develop our abilities to
become sensitive to situations, and use ur gut,
but if the psychics were capable of what they claim......
THEN WHY HAVEN'T ONE OF THEM TOLD US WHERE
THE LAST 2 HAILEY'S ARE ??? ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on March 27, 2011, 01:09:40 AM
Clint is not undermining the focus of the investigation.
Clint is not in charge of the investigation, LE is.
Clint is also not the focus of LE.
The persons who LE are focusing on are Billie and Shawn.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Shell on March 27, 2011, 01:09:41 AM
As for these psychics.....I think they are all full of hooey !
Not one has done a thing for any of these cases.
I do feel that we all can develop our abilities to
become sensitive to situations, and use ur gut,
but if the psychics were capable of what they claim......
THEN WHY HAVEN'T ONE OF THEM TOLD US WHERE
THE LAST 2 HAILEY'S ARE ??? ::MonkeyMad::

I fell asleep on the sofa a few weeks back and woke up to a story (one of the investigative programs?) about  a psychic. The psychic was shown a photo of the interviewer when she was child. This woman proceeded to tell the interviewer about how the child in the photo died etc. Did anyone else see the story? I wish I could remember the psychic's name.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: melisb on March 27, 2011, 01:14:00 AM
Good evening Janet...I think the reason for CD not trying legally to get custody of Hailey recently is:
1.  No work/money, he's a landscaper who works for himself and not much work during winter
2.  No home he could claim, remember his gf Naomi had secured a home under a government program and Clint wasn't supposed to be there so he could not move to another home without money
3.  Not having a home, he had no address in which to inform the court he would be bringing her to
4.  He had another baby on the way which when 1, 2, 3 and 4 are all added up it's a good start as to why he probably couldn't get her and we both know BD wasn't just going to let her go live with Clint.  Noooo, how dare her only daughter choose to go live with her Dad!  I'm sure if it was BD's idea she'd have sent her to Clint weather or not Clint could have physically been able to place her in the home he was staying.  To her, IMO it was and ego issue.  Oh, wait a minute, then BD wouldn't have a little girl for SA to stare at through the crack of her door and she definately wouldn't want him to find another woman with a more available little girl now would she?  OMG, I just made myself sick, THEY make me sick.  All this is MOO.  I still believe SA told BD of his fantasies of Hailey and she allowed it and maybe even a little role playing here and there but I still believe she was jealous of Hailey!!!!!

melisb

Thanks for the response but ... we are not on the same page.

If illegal drug use within the home is the reason that David was removed ... it only stands to reason the Clint's drug possession record would prevent him from gaining custody of Haile.

Clint knew one year ago that Shawn Adkins had threaten his life ... Billie's life and ... Hailey's life.  Clint knew of Billie's abuse of prescription drugs.  Also ... Clint's mother must have shared the fear Hailey had of Shawn ... a fear the little girl was forced to endure night after night while she lay in her bed.

Nevertheless ... Clint continued to do illegal drugs which created an ongoing criminal record.  He should have been doing what needed to be done to put himself in a position where he could attempt to gain custody of the little girl who wanted to live with him to escape the unsafe environment in the house across the field.

Clint and Billie did not deserved the treasure God has blessed them with ... a treasure beyond worth ... a treasure that need to be protected.

Good Night Monkeys

Janet
8:40 PM PT


Don't get me wrong I know they have all done wrong by this beautiful child but what I saying is Clint wouldn't have enough money or a legal place for Hailey to stay as it would be a long costly court battle between Clint and Billie.  We both know BD would not give Hailey up just cause she wanted to go to Dad so if she was having issues with BD or SA Clint would have to prove it and CPS would no doubt get involved and nither would want that I bet.  Usually a persons drug convictions (his aren't that bad)won't keep their children away.  Dealing and trafficking while kids are there, yes.  But you see he got arrested again late last year and the baby stayed right there in the home.  What you have my dear is chosing the lesser of two evils.  Personally, I'm not against weed at all.  What I am against is people who let drugs become more important than work, children and just life.  Clint's a true pot toking slacker but I would rather him be my guardian than my Mom's creepo/pedo boyfriend.  Especially if my Mom was more of a parent to her boytoy than to my brother and I.  DD being removed because of drugs in the home was only speculation and talked about by Richy on BlogTalk radio.  We don't really know why he was removed.  Richy also said something about 'the people' that have David, why would he not say Billie's brother by name if David was with him?  I would assume he would know BD's brother or maybe not.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Shell on March 27, 2011, 01:48:31 AM
As for these psychics.....I think they are all full of hooey !
Not one has done a thing for any of these cases.
I do feel that we all can develop our abilities to
become sensitive to situations, and use ur gut,
but if the psychics were capable of what they claim......
THEN WHY HAVEN'T ONE OF THEM TOLD US WHERE
THE LAST 2 HAILEY'S ARE ??? ::MonkeyMad::

I fell asleep on the sofa a few weeks back and woke up to a story (one of the investigative programs?) about  a psychic. The psychic was shown a photo of the interviewer when she was child. This woman proceeded to tell the interviewer about how the child in the photo died etc. Did anyone else see the story? I wish I could remember the psychic's name.

I found the link  ::piggy::

http://www.insideedition.com/videos/847/inside-edition-investigates-psychic-detectives-who-claim-to-find-missing-persons.aspx
Thank you for the interesting link.  Monkeys, we've had the the psychic pros/cons discussions before on our MP threads and it's better to move on and not derail this thread with further discussion about it especially concerning other cases.  Let's keep this thread about Hailey Dunn.  MB


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 27, 2011, 11:05:19 AM
Good evening Janet...I think the reason for CD not trying legally to get custody of Hailey recently is:
1.  No work/money, he's a landscaper who works for himself and not much work during winter
2.  No home he could claim, remember his gf Naomi had secured a home under a government program and Clint wasn't supposed to be there so he could not move to another home without money
3.  Not having a home, he had no address in which to inform the court he would be bringing her to
4.  He had another baby on the way which when 1, 2, 3 and 4 are all added up it's a good start as to why he probably couldn't get her and we both know BD wasn't just going to let her go live with Clint.  Noooo, how dare her only daughter choose to go live with her Dad!  I'm sure if it was BD's idea she'd have sent her to Clint weather or not Clint could have physically been able to place her in the home he was staying.  To her, IMO it was and ego issue.  Oh, wait a minute, then BD wouldn't have a little girl for SA to stare at through the crack of her door and she definately wouldn't want him to find another woman with a more available little girl now would she?  OMG, I just made myself sick, THEY make me sick.  All this is MOO.  I still believe SA told BD of his fantasies of Hailey and she allowed it and maybe even a little role playing here and there but I still believe she was jealous of Hailey!!!!!

melisb

Thanks for the response but ... we are not on the same page.

If illegal drug use within the home is the reason that David was removed ... it only stands to reason the Clint's drug possession record would prevent him from gaining custody of Haile.

Clint knew one year ago that Shawn Adkins had threaten his life ... Billie's life and ... Hailey's life.  Clint knew of Billie's abuse of prescription drugs.  Also ... Clint's mother must have shared the fear Hailey had of Shawn ... a fear the little girl was forced to endure night after night while she lay in her bed.

Nevertheless ... Clint continued to do illegal drugs which created an ongoing criminal record.  He should have been doing what needed to be done to put himself in a position where he could attempt to gain custody of the little girl who wanted to live with him to escape the unsafe environment in the house across the field.

Clint and Billie did not deserved the treasure God has blessed them with ... a treasure beyond worth ... a treasure that need to be protected.

Good Night Monkeys

Janet
8:40 PM PT


Don't get me wrong I know they have all done wrong by this beautiful child but what I saying is Clint wouldn't have enough money or a legal place for Hailey to stay as it would be a long costly court battle between Clint and Billie.  We both know BD would not give Hailey up just cause she wanted to go to Dad so if she was having issues with BD or SA Clint would have to prove it and CPS would no doubt get involved and nither would want that I bet.  Usually a persons drug convictions (his aren't that bad)won't keep their children away.  Dealing and trafficking while kids are there, yes.  But you see he got arrested again late last year and the baby stayed right there in the home.  What you have my dear is chosing the lesser of two evils.  Personally, I'm not against weed at all.  What I am against is people who let drugs become more important than work, children and just life.  Clint's a true pot toking slacker but I would rather him be my guardian than my Mom's creepo/pedo boyfriend.  Especially if my Mom was more of a parent to her boytoy than to my brother and I.  DD being removed because of drugs in the home was only speculation and talked about by Richy on BlogTalk radio.  We don't really know why he was removed.  Richy also said something about 'the people' that have David, why would he not say Billie's brother by name if David was with him?  I would assume he would know BD's brother or maybe not.

While some of us might agree or argue in hindsight that Clint may have been the "better" parent, the fact is that IF a change of custody had been filed by CD, he probably would not have been awarded Hailey specifically because of his past verified drug history and BDJ's stable history of employment and domicile.  Courts look at what is, rather than what should be.  The only thing that MIGHT have changed this would have been a positive hair follicle test from BJD for prescription drugs that she didn't have a script for, or illegal drugs.  Even then, the State of Texas generally will grant the biological mother custody unless there is substantial evidence that the father is the superior parent.
 As far as David being removed because of drugs, I am 99% sure that he was not "removed" but voluntarily placed by BJD with her brother.  There is a huge difference because a voluntary placement does not require CPS  to conclude that the child is in any imminent danger in their current living condition.  What is does is give the parent, BJD,  an opportunity to get CPS off their back by agreeing to let the child go live with someone of THEIR choice.  If an actual removal had taken place there would be court records indicating such.  The voluntary placement can be revoked by the parent at any time and the child returns to the custody of the original parent.  At that point CPS must decide whether to take further action or just let the situation remain as is.  Unless the danger is imminent, they usually drop the matter.


In Texas CPS becomes involved in cases regularly where a sibling is killed or goes missing.  It is not uncommon for the remaining siblings to be removed temporarily while the situation is assessed. Usually the parent will agree to a voluntary placement because they get to pick which relative the child goes to live with.  Only if the parent doesn't comply will CPS go for a court mandated emergency removal.  At that point, the legal paperwork provides a trail as to the status of the child's placement.

Again, my opinions on this are based on my unfortunately vast experiences with Texas CPS.   ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on March 27, 2011, 11:32:28 AM
So, by agreeing to the placement of David, she avoided any assesements?
And as far as we know, she hasn't made any motions to have him returned ? 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 27, 2011, 11:47:22 AM
flutter and melisb

Thank you for you responses.

Bottom Line:  Shawn Adkins has been determined by investigators to be the only suspect in the Hailey Dunn case.  Logic would dictate that Clint and Billie would be focusing on Shawn for the answers to where their daughter could be found rather.

When speaking to those in attendance at the Traffick911 rally ... Clint implied that investigators had tunnel vision in regards to their focus on Shawn.

What would the reaction be if the divorced parents of Kyron Horman were distancing the stepmother from implication in the media ... the stepmother who is the focus of investigators in the disappearance of their son?

Have a good day all.

Janet
8:45 PM PT



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 27, 2011, 12:44:13 PM
When it was considered what had been revealed ... Kyron Horman's divorced mother and father publicly appealed to persons of interest in the case their missing son to cooperate with investigators.  I know who would do likewise.

However ... the separated parents of Hailey Dunn openly distance the official suspect in the case of their missing daughter.  Why?  Both Billy and Clint have read the affidavits that reveal Shawn's deception to investigations regarding his actions and whereabouts on the morning of December 27th.

Janet

++++++

We Implore Terri Horman

Kyron Horman's Parents Plead With Step Mom to Cooperate With Police
July 1, 2010


The parents of missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman pleaded today with the boy's step-mother to cooperate with police and to help "bring Kyron home."

The emotional news conference was the latest indication that stepmother Terri Horman is under increasing scrutiny by those investigating Kyron's disappearance nearly a month ago.

Kyron's mother Desire Young made the appeal to Terri Horman along with her ex-husband and Kyron's father Kaine Horman. Kaine Harmon served Terri Horman with divorce papers this past weekend and has obtained a restraining order against her.

"We implore Terri Horman to fully cooperate with investigators to bring Kyron home," Young told reporters.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/kyron-horman-step-mother-hires-defense-attorney/story?id=11061509


We Implore DeDe Spicher

Kyron's family calls on friend of Terri's to tell what she knows
The family of Kyron Horman released this statement
Thursday evening, July 22, 2010


Good Evening,

We have been briefed by law enforcement on the most recent developments in Kyron's case.

We have been informed that they have identified a person that has been in close communication with Terri Moulton Horman since Kyron went missing and her name is DeDe Spicher. She has not only been in close communication with Terri but has been providing Terri with support and advice that is not in the best interests of our son.

Additional information provided shows that she is refusing to cooperate with law enforcement, she is also going as far as to suggest to others that may have information regarding Kyron's disappearance, not to cooperate as well.

We implore DeDe Spicher to come forward and cooperate with the investigators in any way that they need in order to assist us in finding our son. We will state further that if we find out through the investigation that she caused a delay in us finding our son due to her lack of cooperation, we will pursue civil remedies in this matter.

We as a family cannot understand how anyone can look at Kyron's smiling face, having information and choose not to help bring him home. Please remember what this is about, it's about bringing a wonderful little boy back to his family.

Desiree, Kaine and Tony

http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Kyrons-family-calls-on-friend-of-Terris-to-tell-what-she-knows-99076714.html



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 27, 2011, 12:55:54 PM
So, by agreeing to the placement of David, she avoided any assesements?
And as far as we know, she hasn't made any motions to have him returned ? 

As to the first question, yes, that is pretty much the case.  CPS may have recommended that she take certain classes (they call it a program) in order to get David back.  But the bottom line is that if she wanted to go to her brother's house and take David back, there is nothing that LE or CPS can do about it at this point. 

Any open investigation against BJD regarding David will stay open until CPS deems it resolved by whatever criteria they choose to use, or until a specific period of time has passed.  I am not sure the time limit, though I believe it is a year without any additional activity on the case.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 27, 2011, 01:02:26 PM
Hi Starwyn,
I am so sorry that you were not able to have a child. Believe me, I understand! I went through all sorts of fertility tests etc and then was put on fertility drugs. All the years that I tried to get pregnant, I could not believe the parents that were fertile yet did not appreciate the blessings that they had. I finally got pregnant in my thirties and my baby is everything to me. She knows I follow these boards and it drives her crazy. She thinks I am already too overprotective, LOL! I was blessed with a mother who always put her children first. My mom was loving and caring and protective. I see so many disfunctional parents that were raised by disfunctional parents. I wish that there was a way to stop the cycle. One of my best friends is a social worker and she had to stop working with children. She was sickened by the way that the system put children back in unsafe homes. I don't want to get political, but our government squanders so much money away but very little of it is spent to protect our most prized assets, our kids. It all just breaks my heart!

Thank you, Sebastian.  <3 !!  I'm glad you are one of the parents who does all of those things that we all wish more would!!

You know, I just keep wondering - everyone keeps talking about bringing Hailey home, and they mean alive.  Well - to whom?  Will she go to BD? Really??  Or CD in his fifth wheel trailer with two babies already in there and no job?  Or with uncle Roger?  Who the heck would she come home TO?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lonna on March 27, 2011, 01:33:57 PM
Good morning all I am new here and as going through the time line of events: This struck me as odd, I don't know if it has already been discussed on here if so please bare with me:

Billy's time line of events: 12:00pm: Billie calls David, who is home. David tells her that Hailey is not back yet. Billie tells him to text her friend and have Hailey came home. The friend says Hailey did not come over.
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Umm I thought Haily had her own cell, why not just directly text Haily, umm why text the friend?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 27, 2011, 01:45:43 PM
Good morning all I am new here and as going through the time line of events: This struck me as odd, I don't know if it has already been discussed on here if so please bare with me:

Billy's time line of events: 12:00pm: Billie calls David, who is home. David tells her that Hailey is not back yet. Billie tells him to text her friend and have Hailey came home. The friend says Hailey did not come over.
~~~~
Umm I thought Haily had her own cell, why not just directly text Haily, umm why text the friend?

Lonna, there was only one cell that belonged to BJD.  She left it at her house for David and Hailey to use.  It was at the house when David got home and Hailey was supposed to be at the friend's house.

It is confusing, I know!  And, welcome to the cage...



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lonna on March 27, 2011, 01:49:10 PM
flutter1

thank U and I also read that the moms boyfriends cell was pinged but they are not showing from where it was located. So the mom and Hailey shared a cell and the moms boyfriend has his own???


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lonna on March 27, 2011, 02:23:47 PM
so the moms boyfriend had the cell, LE wont release the information about the ping and which cell tower it bounced off of. Wondering if cell phone has interent connection web browsing etc. I know if a person uses their cell phone and posts pics/videos to their social sites such as facebook myspace twitter youtube etc, just from the photos/videos alone one can get the whereabouts of the photos and where the cell has been.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lonna on March 27, 2011, 02:34:28 PM
Ok all I think this is very strange found it on Shawns myspace:  On the right side of his page:
Called myspace surveys:
http://www.myspace.com/adkinsshawn (http://www.myspace.com/adkinsshawn)


Myspace Surveys
Relax...it's over,you belong to me,I fill your mouth with dirt Relax...it's over,you can never leave I take your second digit with me... Love... You are...my first,I can breath I find you fascinating You are...my favorite,lay you down to sleep It's all that I can do to stop...Love... So blue...so broken,paper doll decays I haven't left you yet So cold...subversive,your eyes are full of bleach Tomorrow,I will go away again...Love... YOU ARE MINE,YOU WILL ALWAYS BE MINE,I CAN TEAR YOU APART I CAN RECOMBINE YOU ALL I WANT IS TO COVET YOU ALL YOU BELONG TO ME I WILL KILL YOU TO LOVE YOU.(LOVE)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: BabsKats on March 27, 2011, 03:10:20 PM
Ok all I think this is very strange found it on Shawns myspace:  On the right side of his page:
Called myspace surveys:
http://www.myspace.com/adkinsshawn (http://www.myspace.com/adkinsshawn)


Myspace Surveys
Relax...it's over,you belong to me,I fill your mouth with dirt Relax...it's over,you can never leave I take your second digit with me... Love... You are...my first,I can breath I find you fascinating You are...my favorite,lay you down to sleep It's all that I can do to stop...Love... So blue...so broken,paper doll decays I haven't left you yet So cold...subversive,your eyes are full of bleach Tomorrow,I will go away again...Love... YOU ARE MINE,YOU WILL ALWAYS BE MINE,I CAN TEAR YOU APART I CAN RECOMBINE YOU ALL I WANT IS TO COVET YOU ALL YOU BELONG TO ME I WILL KILL YOU TO LOVE YOU.(LOVE)

Wow Lonna, and welcome to the cage.  I don't believe I've seen this particular My Space page up, any other Monkeys recall?  I don't see a date that this "Survey" was written, but did note it doesn't look to be any activity for maybe 3 years!   

Its horrible and so descriptive, this guys mind is sick and if in any way pertains to Hailey, well LE is letting an extremely deviant creep (which most of us believe him to be) still wander loose, come on LE do something!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 27, 2011, 03:15:47 PM
flutter1

thank U and I also read that the moms boyfriends cell was pinged but they are not showing from where it was located. So the mom and Hailey shared a cell and the moms boyfriend has his own???


YW, and yes that is the story. 

As far as Shawn's MySpace page, those are lyrics from Slipknot's Iowa.  It contains some pretty demented things as far as I have seen.  Certainly not the kind of things I would public on my public profile.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lonna on March 27, 2011, 03:22:10 PM
thanks all, I just find it eerie he would have that on his page. Yes SlipKnot is a very controversial band, As I recall from events with other cases and perps, they will use their lyrics in posts and quotes, just shows how demented their mind truly is as for some they will literally do what the lyrics say.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: BabsKats on March 27, 2011, 03:38:48 PM
flutter1

thank U and I also read that the moms boyfriends cell was pinged but they are not showing from where it was located. So the mom and Hailey shared a cell and the moms boyfriend has his own???


YW, and yes that is the story. 

As far as Shawn's MySpace page, those are lyrics from Slipknot's Iowa.  It contains some pretty demented things as far as I have seen.  Certainly not the kind of things I would public on my public profile.  ::MonkeyMad::
Thankyou Flutter, I do recall now some of those ugly supposed songs being discussed back in the early stages of this case, I guess I hadn't read the actual lyrics, if thats what they are supposed to be!
My son was into the heavy metal of the 70's & 80's I didn't think there could be anything more gross at the time......but I guess they have to keep finding ways to shock us oldies, and my parents thought Elvis was gross. 
I love it here in Texas and I'm sure they'll get they're man as soon as they feel they have enough on him but it sure is frustrating to see this creep still enjoying his freedom and if he had nothing to do with Hailey's disappearance at least give him a bunk in one of our wonderful prisons for the child porn and let the big boys play with him!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 27, 2011, 03:49:53 PM
Welcome to the cage Lonna.

The follow transcripts of the February 7th and March 2nd BTHN interviews with Billie Dunn chronicles the events encompassing the afternoon of December 28th from the moment Hailey's mother discovered that her daughter had not spent the priot night at the home of Mary Beth.

David was using the cell that Billie left at home for Hailey and David's use while she was at work.

Janet

+++++

Billie Dunn - In Her Own Words

Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Billie Jean Dunn: Blog Talk Radio Interview March 2


<snipped>

Host: Yes… You find out Hailey’s missing… Take me through what happens.

Billie Dunn: When I found out she was missing, I called my brother, who then got my sister-in-law to give me a ride home from work. This is after I’d already had David call Mary Beth and Clint to know that she had not been there, to know that she was missing, so when I left work, I came straight to the house, seen that Hailey still wasn’t here, got my cell phone, started texting her couple of friends that are in there, and then we stopped by one of the friend’s house, and her granny’s house, then I went to the police station. There wasn’t any time wasted. It’s wouldn’t be like her not to be at the friend’s house that she said she was gonna be at.

Host: When Hailey went missing that day, you called David and asked her to call her to come home.

Billie Dunn: Yeah. I called David. I said, “Text that little girl, and tell Hailey to go ahead and come home now.”

Host: Lead us from there.

Billie Dunn: Within five minutes, David called me back, and said, “Mom, Hailey wasn’t there, and Hailey didn’t spend the night there.”, and I said, “Call your dad. See if Hailey’s there.” He let me know he was, that Clint’s phone was broken, and I told him to walk over there. Clint didn’t live very far away back then, so David walked over there, called me back, and said, “No. Hailey wasn’t there either, and she didn’t spend the night there either.” I said, “Turn around, and go back to your dad’s, and let me talk to him.”
I got on the phone with Clint. He told me, “No, Hailey’s not there.” I said, “All right. I’m coming home. I’m gonna go to the police station and report her missing. You call the police station, and give them a head’s up, but I will go file the report, and everything.”, then that’s when I called my brother, telling him I needed a ride home, and he got my sister-in-law to come and get me, bring me to the house, and I got the cell phone, text a couple of her friends, stop by their house.
 
I went to the police station, reported her missing. I got back home. One of the officers came over, and was still talking to me, at my house. David came in and said, “Mom, Shawn called the phone. I told him what was going on. He said he’s on his way home.”, so Shawn got there, and I mean, the rest of the day, that’s where my nightmare begin. I just set on the couch, dumbfounded, not really knowing what to think.

<snipped>

Host: …when David found out that Hailey wasn’t at Mary Beth’s… how long was the time period that you had talked to Shawn?

Billie Dunn: It was a while. It was probably three or four hours. It’s because Shawn, I know, I knew to let him know, but he wasn’t my priority. I had to look for my daughter, so I was looking for her, and talking with police, when he called my cell phone, and David let him know what was going on, then he came home.

<snipped>

http://www.diigo.com/bookmark/http%3A%2F%2Fcasesignal.wordpress.com%2Fhailey-dunn-transcript-billie-jean-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-2?tab=people&uname=casesignal

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/03/bring-them-home-now--exclusive-billy-dunn-speaks-out-maybe-for-the-last-time


Hailey Dunn: Billie Jean Dunn Radio Interview Feb 7: Transcription

Would there be any reason for her to be there?

No. No, I’ve never been there.

Okay, so on December 28th, Shawn and I both got up around, I guess around 5:30, probably left the house at 6:30 to take me to work, left David at the house by himself. He’s sixteen, and I leave my cell phone there with him when I go to work.

Around twelve o’clock, I called David. I said, “Text the little girl and tell Hailey to go ahead and come home.”, and within five minutes he called me back.  He said, “Mom, she said that Hailey never went over there, and Hailey didn’t spend the night there.”, so I asked him to go over to Clint’s.
 
Clint’s cell phone was broken, so he walked over to Clint’s, and he called me back.  He said, “Mom, Hailey didn’t stay there.”, so I said, “Go back and put your dad on the phone. Let me talk to him.”  Clint told me that Hailey didn’t spend the night there.

I said, “Okay, well, I’m fixing to find a ride home from work.”, and we called the police, let them know I’m coming to file a report.

Did Clint call the police at that time?

He didn’t.

Do you know why?

No. He said he didn’t have a phone to call them. I just told him, “Well, use my phone. Just call ‘em. I’ll file the report myself, but just give ‘em a heads‐up.”, but he didn’t, and I’m not sure why.

Then around, around one o’clock, my sister‐in‐law picked me up from work, brought me back to town. I stopped at my house. Hailey wasn’t there yet. I got my cell phone, started texting some of her friends. We stopped by her best friend’s house, her grandma’s house, nobody was there, so stopped by the best friend’s parents’ house. Nobody was there, and we went to the police station and filed a missing persons report.

<snipped>

Which phone did David take over to

He took my cell phone. I didn’t pick my cell phone up until I got back to town.

Which phone were you on in your car?

My cell phone. No. When I was coming home from work, I didn’t have any cell phone on me.

You said you were talking to your son and your ex‐husband.

Right. I called them from work.

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/billie-jean-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-february-7-transcription/

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/08/exclusive-live--billie-dunn-speaks-1


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 27, 2011, 04:07:25 PM

I don't personally believe that Clint is staying mum because of BD having anything on him.  I think he is staying mum on Shawn for exactly the very reason he said he is:  LE is already focusing on Shawn, (and really they're the only ones that can do anything - legal - about Shawn), and that if he focuses on the Shawn-killed-Hailey theory, then he loses focus on the hope that Hailey might still be alive, and that going down the dead road is really overwhelming and might crush him.  I also believe he feels that if he goes down that road, he will essentially be abandoning his baby girl.    But my statement was in answer to the question of whether or not BD would have things on CD - so that's where all of that came from.

I, too, have a huge issue with negligent parents - particularly because I have long wanted, and tried, to have children but cannot.  I had cervical cancer when I was 25, and though I am more than fine now, there was a period of time where I didn't even know if children would be an option ever.  My doctor certainly advised that because of other inflammatory issues that it wasn't likely.  Until that point, I didn't want kids - until the point where I realized "you might not have a choice".... then suddenly I wanted 30 children!  ;)  In time, I realized I'd settle for one or two rather than 30, and over time I've had 0.  So to see parents that don't even treasure what they CAN have, their beautiful children, their little lives that they were blessed with the responsibility of... wow, it just makes me broil!  I don't kid myself into thinking I would have been a perfect parents, but come on - I'm a better parent to my dog than some people are to their human children!

I am like you - I wonder about Hailey talking to BD about SA.  I suspect that conversation line got nixed in a not very pleasant way early on in the relationship.   I also suspect that going further to say she was scared of SA, BD would have tuned her out if not yelled at her.  Everyone else (except granny) certainly tuned her out, or didn't place the type of importance on it that it warranted.  Of course, hindsite is 20-20, but EVERYONE who isn't living under a rock these days knows that there is a certain amount of gambling bringing a boyfriend to live in a house with pretty little girls.  I hate to be so bold to say it, but there it is.  There are tons of boyfriends and then husbands who are fine - and maybe even better dad's than the 'factor equipped father', but still - such a risk.

 ::MonkeyAngel::

starwynn ... my youngest son's wife has difficulty carrying a baby to term.  They have lost two children.  The two them are still young and ... they realize there is time to explore other options but ....

However ... when teacher DIL experiences first hand neglected and abused children she becomes very emotional.  There are moments when her devout faith fails her and she cries out to God ... Why?  My son feels so helpless regarding her anguish.  All he can do is hold her.

Clint and Billie were truly blessed with an angel called Hailey.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 27, 2011, 04:08:21 PM
Welcome to the cage Lonna.

The follow transcripts of the February 7th and March 2nd BTHN interviews with Billie Dunn chronicles the events encompassing the afternoon of December 28th from the moment Hailey's mother discovered that her daughter had not spent the priot night at the home of Mary Beth.

David was using the cell that Billie left at home for Hailey and David's use while she was at work.

Janet

+++++

Billie Dunn - In Her Own Words

Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Billie Jean Dunn: Blog Talk Radio Interview March 2


<snipped>

Host: Yes… You find out Hailey’s missing… Take me through what happens.

Billie Dunn: When I found out she was missing, I called my brother, who then got my sister-in-law to give me a ride home from work. This is after I’d already had David call Mary Beth and Clint to know that she had not been there, to know that she was missing, so when I left work, I came straight to the house, seen that Hailey still wasn’t here, got my cell phone, started texting her couple of friends that are in there, and then we stopped by one of the friend’s house, and her granny’s house, then I went to the police station. There wasn’t any time wasted. It’s wouldn’t be like her not to be at the friend’s house that she said she was gonna be at.

Host: When Hailey went missing that day, you called David and asked her to call her to come home.

Billie Dunn: Yeah. I called David. I said, “Text that little girl, and tell Hailey to go ahead and come home now.”

Host: Lead us from there.

Billie Dunn: Within five minutes, David called me back, and said, “Mom, Hailey wasn’t there, and Hailey didn’t spend the night there.”, and I said, “Call your dad. See if Hailey’s there.” He let me know he was, that Clint’s phone was broken, and I told him to walk over there. Clint didn’t live very far away back then, so David walked over there, called me back, and said, “No. Hailey wasn’t there either, and she didn’t spend the night there either.” I said, “Turn around, and go back to your dad’s, and let me talk to him.”
I got on the phone with Clint. He told me, “No, Hailey’s not there.” I said, “All right. I’m coming home. I’m gonna go to the police station and report her missing. You call the police station, and give them a head’s up, but I will go file the report, and everything.”, then that’s when I called my brother, telling him I needed a ride home, and he got my sister-in-law to come and get me, bring me to the house, and I got the cell phone, text a couple of her friends, stop by their house.
 
I went to the police station, reported her missing. I got back home. One of the officers came over, and was still talking to me, at my house. David came in and said, “Mom, Shawn called the phone. I told him what was going on. He said he’s on his way home.”, so Shawn got there, and I mean, the rest of the day, that’s where my nightmare begin. I just set on the couch, dumbfounded, not really knowing what to think.

<snipped>

Host: …when David found out that Hailey wasn’t at Mary Beth’s… how long was the time period that you had talked to Shawn?

Billie Dunn: It was a while. It was probably three or four hours.
It’s because Shawn, I know, I knew to let him know, but he wasn’t my priority. I had to look for my daughter, so I was looking for her, and talking with police, when he called my cell phone, and David let him know what was going on, then he came home.

<snipped>

http://www.diigo.com/bookmark/http%3A%2F%2Fcasesignal.wordpress.com%2Fhailey-dunn-transcript-billie-jean-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-2?tab=people&uname=casesignal

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/03/bring-them-home-now--exclusive-billy-dunn-speaks-out-maybe-for-the-last-time


Hailey Dunn: Billie Jean Dunn Radio Interview Feb 7: Transcription

Would there be any reason for her to be there?

No. No, I’ve never been there.

Okay, so on December 28th, Shawn and I both got up around, I guess around 5:30, probably left the house at 6:30 to take me to work, left David at the house by himself. He’s sixteen, and I leave my cell phone there with him when I go to work.

Around twelve o’clock, I called David. I said, “Text the little girl and tell Hailey to go ahead and come home.”, and within five minutes he called me back.  He said, “Mom, she said that Hailey never went over there, and Hailey didn’t spend the night there.”, so I asked him to go over to Clint’s.
 
Clint’s cell phone was broken, so he walked over to Clint’s, and he called me back.  He said, “Mom, Hailey didn’t stay there.”, so I said, “Go back and put your dad on the phone. Let me talk to him.”  Clint told me that Hailey didn’t spend the night there.

I said, “Okay, well, I’m fixing to find a ride home from work.”, and we called the police, let them know I’m coming to file a report.

Did Clint call the police at that time?

He didn’t.

Do you know why?

No. He said he didn’t have a phone to call them. I just told him, “Well, use my phone. Just call ‘em. I’ll file the report myself, but just give ‘em a heads‐up.”, but he didn’t, and I’m not sure why.

Then around, around one o’clock, my sister‐in‐law picked me up from work, brought me back to town. I stopped at my house. Hailey wasn’t there yet. I got my cell phone, started texting some of her friends. We stopped by her best friend’s house, her grandma’s house, nobody was there, so stopped by the best friend’s parents’ house. Nobody was there, and we went to the police station and filed a missing persons report.

<snipped>

Which phone did David take over to

He took my cell phone. I didn’t pick my cell phone up until I got back to town.

Which phone were you on in your car?

My cell phone. No. When I was coming home from work, I didn’t have any cell phone on me.

You said you were talking to your son and your ex‐husband.

Right. I called them from work.

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/billie-jean-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-february-7-transcription/

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/08/exclusive-live--billie-dunn-speaks-1

Hi Janet,
Thank you for posting this. There are two things that I find very odd about this. I tried to bold them but not sure if it worked. I find it very odd that Hailey is missing and Billie did not call Shawn about it for 4 or 5 hours? Is that right? Also, I do not understand why Clint would not have called the police right away as Billie had asked him to do.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 27, 2011, 04:12:41 PM
Hi Starwyn,
I am so sorry that you were not able to have a child. Believe me, I understand! I went through all sorts of fertility tests etc and then was put on fertility drugs. All the years that I tried to get pregnant, I could not believe the parents that were fertile yet did not appreciate the blessings that they had. I finally got pregnant in my thirties and my baby is everything to me. She knows I follow these boards and it drives her crazy. She thinks I am already too overprotective, LOL! I was blessed with a mother who always put her children first. My mom was loving and caring and protective. I see so many disfunctional parents that were raised by disfunctional parents. I wish that there was a way to stop the cycle. One of my best friends is a social worker and she had to stop working with children. She was sickened by the way that the system put children back in unsafe homes. I don't want to get political, but our government squanders so much money away but very little of it is spent to protect our most prized assets, our kids. It all just breaks my heart!

Thank you, Sebastian.  <3 !!  I'm glad you are one of the parents who does all of those things that we all wish more would!!

You know, I just keep wondering - everyone keeps talking about bringing Hailey home, and they mean alive.  Well - to whom?  Will she go to BD? Really??  Or CD in his fifth wheel trailer with two babies already in there and no job?  Or with uncle Roger?  Who the heck would she come home TO?

Hi Starwyn!
I hate to say this, but I am leaning more towards Shawn having done something to Hailey. I will not give up hope until Hailey is found, but I don't have a good feeling after all of the kiddie porn was found. Speaking of kiddie porn, I am trying to think of some lie that Shawn could tell Billie to explain away ALL OF THAT kiddie porn on his computer. I just don't understand why she would even talk to him after that. Let's say she has convinced herself that Shawn did not harm Hailey, what about the kiddie porn?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: BabsKats on March 27, 2011, 05:31:44 PM
Hi Starwyn,
I am so sorry that you were not able to have a child. Believe me, I understand! I went through all sorts of fertility tests etc and then was put on fertility drugs. All the years that I tried to get pregnant, I could not believe the parents that were fertile yet did not appreciate the blessings that they had. I finally got pregnant in my thirties and my baby is everything to me. She knows I follow these boards and it drives her crazy. She thinks I am already too overprotective, LOL! I was blessed with a mother who always put her children first. My mom was loving and caring and protective. I see so many disfunctional parents that were raised by disfunctional parents. I wish that there was a way to stop the cycle. One of my best friends is a social worker and she had to stop working with children. She was sickened by the way that the system put children back in unsafe homes. I don't want to get political, but our government squanders so much money away but very little of it is spent to protect our most prized assets, our kids. It all just breaks my heart!

Thank you, Sebastian.  <3 !!  I'm glad you are one of the parents who does all of those things that we all wish more would!!

You know, I just keep wondering - everyone keeps talking about bringing Hailey home, and they mean alive.  Well - to whom?  Will she go to BD? Really??  Or CD in his fifth wheel trailer with two babies already in there and no job?  Or with uncle Roger?  Who the heck would she come home TO?

Hi Starwyn!
I hate to say this, but I am leaning more towards Shawn having done something to Hailey. I will not give up hope until Hailey is found, but I don't have a good feeling after all of the kiddie porn was found. Speaking of kiddie porn, I am trying to think of some lie that Shawn could tell Billie to explain away ALL OF THAT kiddie porn on his computer. I just don't understand why she would even talk to him after that. Let's say she has convinced herself that Shawn did not harm Hailey, what about the kiddie porn?
Could be she's as sick in the head as he is, and gets her kicks out of it too?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 27, 2011, 05:32:38 PM

Hi Starwyn!
I hate to say this, but I am leaning more towards Shawn having done something to Hailey. I will not give up hope until Hailey is found, but I don't have a good feeling after all of the kiddie porn was found. Speaking of kiddie porn, I am trying to think of some lie that Shawn could tell Billie to explain away ALL OF THAT kiddie porn on his computer. I just don't understand why she would even talk to him after that. Let's say she has convinced herself that Shawn did not harm Hailey, what about the kiddie porn?

Sebastian

It has been revealed that the child porn was not just discovered on the computer at the home of Shawn's mother ... it was discovered on the computer at his grandma's home ... it was discovered on his memory stick at Billie's home and ... it was discovered on his cell.

The huge volume of images cases me to suspect that both Shawn and Billie were involved with the distribution of child porn which is a federal offence ... a federal offence that dictates years behind bars.

Could it be in Billie's best interest not to implicate Shawn in the disappearance of her daughter?  Could Billie realize if she turns on Shawn ... it would just be a matter of time before she is serving time related to a possession and distribution of child porn conviction.

IMO

Janet 

 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 27, 2011, 06:44:42 PM

Hi Starwyn!
I hate to say this, but I am leaning more towards Shawn having done something to Hailey. I will not give up hope until Hailey is found, but I don't have a good feeling after all of the kiddie porn was found. Speaking of kiddie porn, I am trying to think of some lie that Shawn could tell Billie to explain away ALL OF THAT kiddie porn on his computer. I just don't understand why she would even talk to him after that. Let's say she has convinced herself that Shawn did not harm Hailey, what about the kiddie porn?

Sebastian

It has been revealed that the child porn was not just discovered on the computer at the home of Shawn's mother ... it was discovered on the computer at his grandma's home ... it was discovered on his memory stick at Billie's home and ... it was discovered on his cell.

The huge volume of images cases me to suspect that both Shawn and Billie were involved with the distribution of child porn which is a federal offence ... a federal offence that dictates years behind bars.

Could it be in Billie's best interest not to implicate Shawn in the disappearance of her daughter?  Could Billie realize if she turns on Shawn ... it would just be a matter of time before she is serving time related to a possession and distribution of child porn conviction.

IMO

Janet 

 

The above could explain why Billie is distancing Shawn from implication in the disappearance of her daughter despite words in affidavits to the contrary but ... what could explain Clint's distancing of Shawn ... what could explain Clint's defence of Billie.

Could it be that Clint still has feelings for Billie?  Could it be that Clint fears Billie will go down for illegal wrongdoing if Shawn goes down as the official suspect in the Hailey Dunn case.

Janet

+++++++

Part 2: Missing Texas teen Hailey Dunn’s uncle Richy Cooper speaks out
March 26th, 2011


Why does Clint defend Billie?

When asked why Clint defends Billie, Richy said, “The ladies are going to call foul here. But I’m a guy and I’ve got four children from two different women. Clint’s got a child with this woman and he was there when it happened.

“A man like Clint, who is as compassionate as he is, cannot on his best day ever want to believe that the mother of his child – that’s a love bond that’s just unbreakable – that the mother of his child could have had anything to do with Hailey not being here. Not being in his arms.”

<snipped>

Clint’s relationships with women

Bee asked, “Are Clint and Naomi still together or are they not together?”

Richy said, “The mysteries of Clint’s relationships.

"In the time that he was married to Billie Jean they were on-again off-again so many times they broke the switch. He would leave, she’d kick him out, he’d leave and come to our house, she’d come over and she’d cry and he’d hug her and they’d go back together.

“And this happened constantly. This was non-stop. Then he broke it off with her and he went solo.

"He’s kind of done OK for a little bit and then not so good for a while and then OK for a bit. He doesn’t seem to be able to stay single for very long.

"He’s a handsome guy and he does have a good laugh about him. He’s not an idiot and he does know what he’s doing, he does know how to handle himself with the ladies.

“As far as that goes I can’t comment on whether or not he’s actually with her now. They are living together in my mother-in-law’s home as of today. Nobody knows what tomorrow brings. I hope for the baby’s sake that they manage to stay together.

<snipped>

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/part-2-missing-texas-teen-hailey-dunn-s-uncle-richy-cooper-speaks-out

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/23/the-bring-them-home-now-exclusive-richy-cooper-and-missing-billy-disilvestro-serial-killer-on-the-lo



<snipped>

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Billie-Dunn-Innocent/154709951254680

Clinton Dunn
thank yall for this page. billie needs support too.
26 minutes ago

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: mymonkey on March 27, 2011, 06:48:04 PM

Hi Starwyn!
I hate to say this, but I am leaning more towards Shawn having done something to Hailey. I will not give up hope until Hailey is found, but I don't have a good feeling after all of the kiddie porn was found. Speaking of kiddie porn, I am trying to think of some lie that Shawn could tell Billie to explain away ALL OF THAT kiddie porn on his computer. I just don't understand why she would even talk to him after that. Let's say she has convinced herself that Shawn did not harm Hailey, what about the kiddie porn?

Sebastian

It has been revealed that the child porn was not just discovered on the computer at the home of Shawn's mother ... it was discovered on the computer at his grandma's home ... it was discovered on his memory stick at Billie's home and ... it was discovered on his cell.

The huge volume of images cases me to suspect that both Shawn and Billie were involved with the distribution of child porn which is a federal offence ... a federal offence that dictates years behind bars.

Could it be in Billie's best interest not to implicate Shawn in the disappearance of her daughter?  Could Billie realize if she turns on Shawn ... it would just be a matter of time before she is serving time related to a possession and distribution of child porn conviction.

IMO

Janet 

 

Hi,

Sorry to butt in....does anyone think that Shawn may have sold Hailey to a porn ring ?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 27, 2011, 07:15:56 PM

Hi,

Sorry to butt in....does anyone think that Shawn may have sold Hailey to a porn ring ?


No butting in Hon.  I have been talking to myself all afternoon.

 ::HelloKitty::

You could be right.

However ... my theory implies that it was a deceased barefooted Hailey who was taken from her bed by Shawn Atkins between 6:35 AM and 6:56 AM on the morning of December 27th wearing only a short sleeved T-shirt and blue sweats.

I could be wrong.  Until the truth is revealed it is all about speculating.

Janet

++++

December 27th: 6:35 AM - 6:56 AM

Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 2:17 pm CST January 12, 2011


<snipped>

One inconsistency in Adkins’ statements involved his employment on Dec. 27. Adkins told investigators that he was fired that day, but authorities contacted the employer, who said that Adkins was a good employee and that he hadn’t been fired.

Nevertheless, Adkins left his place of employment at 6:10 a.m. on the morning of Dec. 27 and told investigators that he went straight to his mother’s house in Big Spring. However, cell phone records indicate that Adkins’ cell phone was in contact with cell towers in the Colorado City area from 6:35 a.m. until 6:56 a.m., during the time when he said he was traveling to Big Spring.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


It was Cold Outside

Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's DisappearanceBy Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 2:17 pm CST January 12, 2011


<snipped>

Law enforcement officials detailed what Hailey left behind at her home: cash, a toothbrush, hairbrush, contact solution, a new MP3 player – and a jacket that friends say she would not have left home without.

The weather was cold outside, but Adkins said he last saw Hailey leaving without the jacket and the personal items.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


Tennis Shoes Found

Efforts continue to find Hailey Dunn
Posted January 5, 2011 - 10:43am


<snipped>

“She didn’t take any shoes or boots,” Dunn said. Originally, she thought Hailey was wearing tennis shoes but discovered them in her daughter’s room. “It was cold and she was wearing flip flops. It’s what scares me the most.”

<snipped>

http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/2011/01/efforts-continue-find-hailey-dunn


Updated AMW Missing Persons Alert

AMW Case

Hailey Darlene Dunn


<snipped>

Police say Hailey Darlene Dunn is a student and cheerleader at Colorado City Middle School. They say the 13-year-old girl was last seen wearing navy blue sweatpants, a short-sleeved light-colored T-shirt, flip flops and red hoop earrings. They say Hailey’s upper left ear is also pierced, and she stands at 5 feet 1 inch tall and weighs around 120 pounds. She has hazel eyes and light brown hair with blond highlights.

<snipped>

http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=76136


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 27, 2011, 07:27:59 PM
Remember on page 36 of this thread I discussed a questionable search that GSJ inserted herself in?

Well listen to this official public announcement made by LE:

http://am.kbst.com/page.php?34

There ya go!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lonna on March 27, 2011, 07:39:28 PM
There are a lot of pedophiles out there, someone has to be the supplier for them to get access to photos videos and at times the children. My questions is was Billy and Shawn the suppliers for everything, what if she was taken to one of the pedophiles Hailey didn't comply with their wishes and she was murdered for it. They Billy and Shawn would have to cover their tracks and all evidence. That is why Billy didn't call Shawn to let him know she was "Missing" since she was reporting it to police. she knew all along but is playing the part. I'm sorry but when I have this gut feeling it is usually right. I pray that it isn't.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Boston Lady on March 27, 2011, 08:07:24 PM
So, by agreeing to the placement of David, she avoided any assesements?
And as far as we know, she hasn't made any motions to have him returned ? 

As to the first question, yes, that is pretty much the case.  CPS may have recommended that she take certain classes (they call it a program) in order to get David back.  But the bottom line is that if she wanted to go to her brother's house and take David back, there is nothing that LE or CPS can do about it at this point. 

Any open investigation against BJD regarding David will stay open until CPS deems it resolved by whatever criteria they choose to use, or until a specific period of time has passed.  I am not sure the time limit, though I believe it is a year without any additional activity on the case.




I don't think this was the case with Billie Jean Dunn.   I think that LE knew about the drugs and I also think they were aware of the child porn early on.   I believe this is why David was removed.  I also don't think that Billie Jean can just go take David and bring him back to the house.   Especially now that the child porn and drug use is out to the public and listed on affidavits. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 27, 2011, 09:42:53 PM
Hi All,
Does anyone have Shawn's birthdate and all of the places that he has lived? Thank you in advance!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 27, 2011, 09:55:03 PM
Hi All,
Does anyone have Shawn's birthdate and all of the places that he has lived? Thank you in advance!


Sebastian ... I am not into research in regards to accessing documents.  However ... Shawn provided a little background on his March 3rd interview with BTHN hosts.

Janet

+++++++++

Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Shawn Adkins: Blog Talk Radio Interview March 3

<snipped>

Host: Where would you born? Where would you grow up?

Shawn Adkins: I was born in Abilene, Texas, on Dyess Air Force base, and I grew up in Dunn, Texas, most of my life, and I went to school in Snyder up until I graduated in 2003.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-transcript-shawn-adkins-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-3/

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/04/bring-them-home-now-exclusive-shawn-adkins-speaks-out



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: BabsKats on March 27, 2011, 10:02:49 PM
Hi All,
Does anyone have Shawn's birthdate and all of the places that he has lived? Thank you in advance!



In the Who's who in this case, there are several references to Shawn, not sure how much info you are looking for....http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9319.0

Shawn Adkins was a 2003 guaduate from Snyder High School, Snyder, Texashttp://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=331686




   Re: Who's who in the case
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2011, 09:05:20 PM » Quote 

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I am not sure if this is was posted in threads, but thought I would bring it here. Also want to note that "Shawn's" brother (a minor) does have the same father. The bio father also goes by the name of ENDGATE ADKINS. So the listing of the father's name is the same person.
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=shawn+casey&gsln=adkins&mswpn__ftp=Big+Spring%2c+Howard%2c+Texas%2c+USA&mswpn=77465&mswpn_PInfo=8-|1652393|2|3249|46|1408|77465|&uidh=e05&=y%2c0&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&h=20136304&recoff=1+2+3+35&db=TXbirthindex&indiv=1&hovR=1

Name:    Shawn Casey Adkins
Date of Birth:    30 Jun 1985
Gender:    Male
Birth County:    Taylor
Father's Name:    Charles Clay Adkins
Mother's Name:    Christina Babette Taggart
Roll Number:    1985_0001
 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 27, 2011, 10:11:38 PM
http://www.cbs7kosa.com/news/details.asp?ID=24485


Hailey Dunn Candlelight Vigil 3/27/11

Jay Hendricks
3/27/11

(Colorado City)- Sunday marks the third month that 13-year-old Hailey Dunn has been missing in Colorado City.

Sunday night many gathered for a candlelight vigil to remember and hope.

 ::snipping2::

Sunday night many gathered in Colorado City to remember the missing 13-year-old and hold out hope that Hailey will be found alive.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 27, 2011, 10:15:49 PM
Good morning all I am new here and as going through the time line of events: This struck me as odd, I don't know if it has already been discussed on here if so please bare with me:

Billy's time line of events: 12:00pm: Billie calls David, who is home. David tells her that Hailey is not back yet. Billie tells him to text her friend and have Hailey came home. The friend says Hailey did not come over.
~~~~
Umm I thought Haily had her own cell, why not just directly text Haily, umm why text the friend?

Welcome, Lonna!  I see flutter1 answered your question - just thought I'd say "hey".  :)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 27, 2011, 10:28:05 PM

Wow Lonna, and welcome to the cage.  I don't believe I've seen this particular My Space page up, any other Monkeys recall?  I don't see a date that this "Survey" was written, but did note it doesn't look to be any activity for maybe 3 years!   

Its horrible and so descriptive, this guys mind is sick and if in any way pertains to Hailey, well LE is letting an extremely deviant creep (which most of us believe him to be) still wander loose, come on LE do something!
[/quote]

Yes, I've seen it.  It's from three years ago, but still - I'm shocked at how he chose to represent himself.  That writing is apparently a song lyric from a favorite band of his.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 27, 2011, 10:29:24 PM
Wow Lonna, and welcome to the cage.  I don't believe I've seen this particular My Space page up, any other Monkeys recall?  I don't see a date that this "Survey" was written, but did note it doesn't look to be any activity for maybe 3 years!   

Its horrible and so descriptive, this guys mind is sick and if in any way pertains to Hailey, well LE is letting an extremely deviant creep (which most of us believe him to be) still wander loose, come on LE do something!

Trying again (moderators, please delete my previous oops if you can).  I have seen this page.  The post is from 3 years ago, and are apparently lyrics from a favorite band of his.  Still, shocking how he chose to represent himself, isn't it?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 27, 2011, 10:34:07 PM

Hi Starwyn!
I hate to say this, but I am leaning more towards Shawn having done something to Hailey. I will not give up hope until Hailey is found, but I don't have a good feeling after all of the kiddie porn was found. Speaking of kiddie porn, I am trying to think of some lie that Shawn could tell Billie to explain away ALL OF THAT kiddie porn on his computer. I just don't understand why she would even talk to him after that. Let's say she has convinced herself that Shawn did not harm Hailey, what about the kiddie porn?

Sebastian, it's a pretty horrible place to go, isn't it, thatlos of hope.  I try to have hope, I do believe in miracles, but I also know that probabilities are slim to none for Hailey, and I hate it.  I hate that I live in a world where I have to think that.  But there you go - that's our world, thanks to sickos.  And you know, Sebastian, I even hate myself more for this, but I'm going to say it - I think she was fully aware of Shawn's "tastes".  I think she played up to that, I think she might not have realized that it would come to this in the end, but she had her hand on the brake for the runaway train and she didn't pull it.  I hate thinking like this.  I do literally pray to God for thinking like this, for myself, for having such awful thoughts about the situation in my head, but I do feel that way.  That's the only way I can see her still talking to him, unless even worse - SHE did something to Hailey - "her" Hailey, the Hailey "God gave to (her)".

Ugly, ugly, ugly, and boy do I really hope that I can eat a big heaping serving of serious crow pie one day on this.  But I'm afraid I might not, and I hate it.  I would rather be wrong than right!!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 27, 2011, 10:59:42 PM
So, by agreeing to the placement of David, she avoided any assesements?
And as far as we know, she hasn't made any motions to have him returned ? 

As to the first question, yes, that is pretty much the case.  CPS may have recommended that she take certain classes (they call it a program) in order to get David back.  But the bottom line is that if she wanted to go to her brother's house and take David back, there is nothing that LE or CPS can do about it at this point. 

Any open investigation against BJD regarding David will stay open until CPS deems it resolved by whatever criteria they choose to use, or until a specific period of time has passed.  I am not sure the time limit, though I believe it is a year without any additional activity on the case.




I don't think this was the case with Billie Jean Dunn.   I think that LE knew about the drugs and I also think they were aware of the child porn early on.   I believe this is why David was removed.  I also don't think that Billie Jean can just go take David and bring him back to the house.   Especially now that the child porn and drug use is out to the public and listed on affidavits. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

BL,

There have been no court orders entered which would allow CPS to remove David from BJD's parental control.  Without those, CPS can not do anything except in cases of imminent danger.  Even then, the court must approve the removal. 

I know it sounds crazy but my own grandson was taken from me Christmas Day by his bio father after being voluntarily placed with me three months before.  CPS and LE did nothing to return him to me because bio father has all his rights under law.  CPS would not pursue further action stating that they did not see grandson in "imminent danger" even though bio father is abusive and has not completed the CPS mandated (or suggested may be a more appropriate word).   

CPS pretends that a voluntary placement has some force behind it, but it is just a bluff.  Only a court can determine child placement and that hasn't been done in this case.  If it had, the court documents would be all over the newspapers, etc.

I now have more insight as to why children are abused and murdered even though reports have been made and CPS has become "involved".   :smt067

BTW, even with LE's knowledge of the child porn and drugs, those things in themselves would not warrant removal.  The term imminent means the child is to the point of immediately being harmed.  BJD would probably have been put on a "parenting plan," mandated to take classes, and required to do drug testing, but David could have remained in the home.  Again, I know this sounds crazy but so is the system. 

 





Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 27, 2011, 11:00:43 PM
What a nice YouTube for Hailey.

Hailey Dunn--A Darling Girl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxqOe5_v2lU



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 27, 2011, 11:28:35 PM
DAVID DUNN

According to Billie Dunn

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Why was your son, David, taken into state custody?

BILLIE DUNN: He wasn`t taken into state custody. From my understanding, it`s normal for CPS to come in and interview you, which they did. I placed David at my brother`s house. That`s best for him. I have people driving by, hollering awful things. But there was no courts involved. He`s not in state custody. He`s at my brother`s house and here every day

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


According to Child Protective Services

Colorado City and Snyder Landfills Searched For Missing Teen
POSTED: 5:28 pm CST January 20, 2011
UPDATED: 7:18 pm CST January 20, 2011


Thursday, we did speak to a representative from Child Protective Services. Wednesday, we reported Hailey's older brother David was removed from Billie Dunn's home. Thursday, CPS would not confirm if they are investigating the family.

However, a spokeswoman did say there are instances when CPS is investigating a family that they ask the family to place a child voluntarily outside the home pending the outcome of that investigation.

Wednesday night on the Nancy Grace Show, Billie Dunn said her son David is staying with an uncle.

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26564175/detail.html


According to Richy Cooper

Part 1: Missing Texas teen Hailey Dunn's uncle Richy Cooper speaks out
March 25th, 2011


<snipped>

The host of BTHN asked Richy what, in his opinion, is the reason David was taken away by CPS. Richy said, “Unfortunately I think there was drug use in that house and I think CPS discovered it. I don’t think they did it on their own, I think they had help discovering it.”

<snipped>

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/part-1-missing-texas-teen-hailey-dunn-s-uncle-richy-cooper-speaks-out

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/23/the-bring-them-home-now-exclusive-richy-cooper-and-missing-billy-disilvestro-serial-killer-on-the-lo


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 27, 2011, 11:39:10 PM

BL,

There have been no court orders entered which would allow CPS to remove David from BJD's parental control.  Without those, CPS can not do anything except in cases of imminent danger.  Even then, the court must approve the removal. 

I know it sounds crazy but my own grandson was taken from me Christmas Day by his bio father after being voluntarily placed with me three months before.  CPS and LE did nothing to return him to me because bio father has all his rights under law.  CPS would not pursue further action stating that they did not see grandson in "imminent danger" even though bio father is abusive and has not completed the CPS mandated (or suggested may be a more appropriate word).   

CPS pretends that a voluntary placement has some force behind it, but it is just a bluff.  Only a court can determine child placement and that hasn't been done in this case.  If it had, the court documents would be all over the newspapers, etc.

I now have more insight as to why children are abused and murdered even though reports have been made and CPS has become "involved".   :smt067

BTW, even with LE's knowledge of the child porn and drugs, those things in themselves would not warrant removal.  The term imminent means the child is to the point of immediately being harmed.  BJD would probably have been put on a "parenting plan," mandated to take classes, and required to do drug testing, but David could have remained in the home.  Again, I know this sounds crazy but so is the system. 


 ::MonkeyTears::

Flutter

Your heart must be breaking.

Janet




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 27, 2011, 11:42:51 PM
Regarding the CPS issue, they strongly suggested to Billie that she make arrangements for DD to live elsewhere while this criminal investigation was active which indicates that he may be in imminent danger within that home.   CPS would not have issued that statement if that wasnt the case, period.  If Billie had refused trust me they would have been in court to get an order, and they would have gotten it.   This isnt about a custody issue or a warning with stipulations due to substance abuse in the home where minor children reside, so that action is different.   The action taken by CPS or LE when a biological parent takes back custody of a child they have not been deemed unfit or forbidden from doing so is entirely different as well.  In this case, it can be speculated all day long why but the bottom line is the mother's live-in boyfriend is the only named suspect & the mother is considered a POI in a child abduction/suspected murder.   The minor child's sister is suspected to have been murdered, no sugar coating it.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 27, 2011, 11:57:42 PM
Thanks guys for the information on Shawn! I have gone over this document and I was wondering if they ever got the car into custody to go over it and if so, if they found any evidence? I do not get Shawn at all. On the one hand, he leaves kiddie porn all over the place during this investigation. On the other hand, he seems to think he is pretty smart, hence the head games. For example, from this document, he tells LE in an early interview that they should look at both himself and Billie. I guess that is a bit open ended. It would help to know the tone and the exact question from LE. For example did LE say something like "If you were us, who would you be looking at with regards to Haileys disappearance"? For Shawn to tell Del that "killing a 13 year old is like gutting a deer?" He was obviously trying to get a reaction. He tells LE during a lie detector test to "look for Hailey in Scurry county?". Again, we do not know how the question was posed, but it makes no sense to me why he would not just say "I have no idea where someone would look for Hailey". Sometimes he appears dumb as dirt and other times he appears smart and devious.

Edit to add link to document.  MB
http://media.reporternews.com/media/static/0113_001_.pdf


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 28, 2011, 12:00:42 AM
Sorry, forgot the document! http://media.reporternews.com/media/static/0113_001_.pdf


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 28, 2011, 12:15:38 AM
This was snipped from a post of Janet's in thread nine.  Sebastian -  Please link back to Janet's post.  MB

Edit to add link (Thank you for providing it, Janet) MB
Tamikosmom
Re: Hailey Dunn #9 3/05/11 -
« Reply #121 on: March 09, 2011, 12:36:49 AM »

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9511.msg1313625;topicseen#msg1313625

Shawn's mother and brother live in the home in Big Spring where the computer that contained child porn was confiscated by investigators.

Also ... there is a Steve Walker.  Is he Christina's husband?

Then there is the boat owner ... Brad Roberts.  Where does he fit into the picture.  Apparently ... Brad also resides at 2807 Apache Drive.

In the March 3rd BTHN interview ... Shawn absolves his mother and brother and himself from implication in the accessing of child porn but not Steve Walker ... not Brad Roberts.  Why?

I know that I am playing the devil's adovcate but ... I have a little nagging doubt regarding Shawn's association with child porn.  I could be wrong but after thinking about it ... my instincts tell me that Shawn's attorney would be telling him to zip it in regards to the child porn issue if he wasn't convinced that his client was revealing the truth.  After all ... computer techs have ways of determining who and when this stuff was downloaded ... accessed.

Janet


Did anyone ever determine who Brad Roberts is? I keep wondering why Shawn has not been arrested with regards to the kiddie porn. I am not super computer suavie. Let's just say for the sake of argument that Shawn did not know there was kiddie porn on his mother's computer. When he downloaded whatever he wanted to download onto the drive that they found in Billie's drawer, would it automatically include the kiddie porn? What I am trying to ask is, if Shawn downloaded family photos from his mom's computer, could there have been kiddie porn on there that he may not have known was on there? I hope I am making sense!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 28, 2011, 12:17:35 AM
Some update photos and article about the Vigil on March 27, 2011--


http://www.facebook.com/album.php?fbid=161390527251742&id=141796342544494&aid=34930

3 Month Prayer Vigil for Hailey Dunn by Cat Geiger.
By Help Find Hailey Dunn · View Photos.



http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/hailey-dunn-update-missing-3-months-community-holds-candle-vigil

Hailey Dunn Update: Missing 3 months, community holds candlelight vigil (Video)March 27th, 2011 8:14 pm ET .
Isabelle Zehnder
Missing Persons Examiner.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 28, 2011, 12:22:47 AM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=161403780583750&set=a.161403747250420.34937.141796342544494&theater

Pictures of tonight's vigil

My observations:   Billie seems to be bewildered by the candle, once removed in a sense...her boo isnt with her, gee wonder why that might be.  Clint helped with the set up & has Naomi by his side & what seems to be a gathering around him.

OK now here is the kicker...sit and brace yourselves

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27339854/detail.html

Family, Friends Mark Three Months Since Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
By Cassandra Garcia, KTXS News
POSTED: 10:35 pm CDT March 27, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Friends and family gathered at Ruddick Park in Colorado City on Sunday to pray for the safe return of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, who's been missing for three months.
About 50 people showed up to light candles and sign pictures in hopes Hailey's case will be solved.
 ::snipping2::
Hailey's father says the three-month mark only makes him more determined to search.
"I want to thank everybody that's still supporting this and still has hope for Hailey," said Clint Dunn, Hailey's father. "I'm just spreading the word. I'm trying to get it out of Texas and out to states, and I'm trying to spread awareness."
Hailey's mother also told KTXS another candlelight vigil will be held at the six-month mark of her disappearance.


Why the H would a mother be so quick to say that so matter of factly, she's telling us she has no hope Hailey could return sooner (or at all). :smt076

NOTE:   There may be video up later tonight or tomorrow at the above link because it aired locally on their broadcast


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 28, 2011, 12:56:02 AM
OMG.  Did you see that Clint is wearing a Hailey shirt with a Hailey button, and Billie is wearing a Colorado hoodie?  What is wrong with her?  It's a vigil for her missing daughter!  ::MonkeyMad::

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?fbid=161390527251742&id=141796342544494&aid=34930


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: 4 Donks on March 28, 2011, 01:42:01 AM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=161403780583750&set=a.161403747250420.34937.141796342544494&theater

Pictures of tonight's vigil

My observations:   Billie seems to be bewildered by the candle, once removed in a sense...her boo isnt with her, gee wonder why that might be.  Clint helped with the set up & has Naomi by his side & what seems to be a gathering around him.

OK now here is the kicker...sit and brace yourselves

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27339854/detail.html

Family, Friends Mark Three Months Since Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
By Cassandra Garcia, KTXS News
POSTED: 10:35 pm CDT March 27, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Friends and family gathered at Ruddick Park in Colorado City on Sunday to pray for the safe return of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, who's been missing for three months.
About 50 people showed up to light candles and sign pictures in hopes Hailey's case will be solved.
 ::snipping2::
Hailey's father says the three-month mark only makes him more determined to search.
"I want to thank everybody that's still supporting this and still has hope for Hailey," said Clint Dunn, Hailey's father. "I'm just spreading the word. I'm trying to get it out of Texas and out to states, and I'm trying to spread awareness."
Hailey's mother also told KTXS another candlelight vigil will be held at the six-month mark of her disappearance.


Why the H would a mother be so quick to say that so matter of factly, she's telling us she has no hope Hailey could return sooner (or at all). :smt076

NOTE:   There may be video up later tonight or tomorrow at the above link because it aired locally on their broadcast
[/quote
She spoke with the press was her attorney with her.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: 4 Donks on March 28, 2011, 01:43:15 AM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=161403780583750&set=a.161403747250420.34937.141796342544494&theater

Pictures of tonight's vigil

My observations:   Billie seems to be bewildered by the candle, once removed in a sense...her boo isnt with her, gee wonder why that might be.  Clint helped with the set up & has Naomi by his side & what seems to be a gathering around him.

OK now here is the kicker...sit and brace yourselves

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27339854/detail.html

Family, Friends Mark Three Months Since Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
By Cassandra Garcia, KTXS News
POSTED: 10:35 pm CDT March 27, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Friends and family gathered at Ruddick Park in Colorado City on Sunday to pray for the safe return of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, who's been missing for three months.
About 50 people showed up to light candles and sign pictures in hopes Hailey's case will be solved.
 ::snipping2::
Hailey's father says the three-month mark only makes him more determined to search.
"I want to thank everybody that's still supporting this and still has hope for Hailey," said Clint Dunn, Hailey's father. "I'm just spreading the word. I'm trying to get it out of Texas and out to states, and I'm trying to spread awareness."
Hailey's mother also told KTXS another candlelight vigil will be held at the six-month mark of her disappearance.


Why the H would a mother be so quick to say that so matter of factly, she's telling us she has no hope Hailey could return sooner (or at all). :smt076

NOTE:   There may be video up later tonight or tomorrow at the above link because it aired locally on their broadcast
[/quote


She spoke with the press was her attorney with her.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on March 28, 2011, 02:20:30 AM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=161403780583750&set=a.161403747250420.34937.141796342544494&theater

Pictures of tonight's vigil

My observations:   Billie seems to be bewildered by the candle, once removed in a sense...her boo isnt with her, gee wonder why that might be.  Clint helped with the set up & has Naomi by his side & what seems to be a gathering around him.

OK now here is the kicker...sit and brace yourselves

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27339854/detail.html

Family, Friends Mark Three Months Since Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
By Cassandra Garcia, KTXS News
POSTED: 10:35 pm CDT March 27, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Friends and family gathered at Ruddick Park in Colorado City on Sunday to pray for the safe return of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, who's been missing for three months.
About 50 people showed up to light candles and sign pictures in hopes Hailey's case will be solved.
 ::snipping2::
Hailey's father says the three-month mark only makes him more determined to search.
"I want to thank everybody that's still supporting this and still has hope for Hailey," said Clint Dunn, Hailey's father. "I'm just spreading the word. I'm trying to get it out of Texas and out to states, and I'm trying to spread awareness."
Hailey's mother also told KTXS another candlelight vigil will be held at the six-month mark of her disappearance.


Why the H would a mother be so quick to say that so matter of factly, she's telling us she has no hope Hailey could return sooner (or at all). :smt076

NOTE:   There may be video up later tonight or tomorrow at the above link because it aired locally on their broadcast

Wow!  Has her brain been fried on drugs?



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on March 28, 2011, 02:22:05 AM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=161403780583750&set=a.161403747250420.34937.141796342544494&theater

Pictures of tonight's vigil

My observations:   Billie seems to be bewildered by the candle, once removed in a sense...her boo isnt with her, gee wonder why that might be.  Clint helped with the set up & has Naomi by his side & what seems to be a gathering around him.

OK now here is the kicker...sit and brace yourselves

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27339854/detail.html

Family, Friends Mark Three Months Since Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
By Cassandra Garcia, KTXS News
POSTED: 10:35 pm CDT March 27, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Friends and family gathered at Ruddick Park in Colorado City on Sunday to pray for the safe return of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, who's been missing for three months.
About 50 people showed up to light candles and sign pictures in hopes Hailey's case will be solved.
 ::snipping2::
Hailey's father says the three-month mark only makes him more determined to search.
"I want to thank everybody that's still supporting this and still has hope for Hailey," said Clint Dunn, Hailey's father. "I'm just spreading the word. I'm trying to get it out of Texas and out to states, and I'm trying to spread awareness."
Hailey's mother also told KTXS another candlelight vigil will be held at the six-month mark of her disappearance.


Why the H would a mother be so quick to say that so matter of factly, she's telling us she has no hope Hailey could return sooner (or at all). :smt076

NOTE:   There may be video up later tonight or tomorrow at the above link because it aired locally on their broadcast

Wow!  Has her brain been fried on drugs?



Seriously...she has such an awkward way of speaking - almost like things just come out wrong....is there a "real" problem with her or is that what happens when you open your mouth and words fall out before passing your brain.  Sorry...disgusting!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 28, 2011, 04:13:06 AM
I have decided to go back to page 1. If I post things that have been posted before, please forgive me. I just want to get your take on some of these things. Here is the neighbor that reported that the neighbor he kicked out was not reliable. He was in prison too.

http://justice.co.tom-green.tx.us/Scripts/UVlink.isa/tgcrisc/WEBSERV/JailSearch?action%253Dview%26track%253D354469


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cookie on March 28, 2011, 09:12:08 AM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=161403780583750&set=a.161403747250420.34937.141796342544494&theater

Pictures of tonight's vigil

My observations:   Billie seems to be bewildered by the candle, once removed in a sense...her boo isnt with her, gee wonder why that might be.  Clint helped with the set up & has Naomi by his side & what seems to be a gathering around him.

OK now here is the kicker...sit and brace yourselves

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27339854/detail.html

Family, Friends Mark Three Months Since Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
By Cassandra Garcia, KTXS News
POSTED: 10:35 pm CDT March 27, 2011

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Friends and family gathered at Ruddick Park in Colorado City on Sunday to pray for the safe return of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, who's been missing for three months.
About 50 people showed up to light candles and sign pictures in hopes Hailey's case will be solved.
 ::snipping2::
Hailey's father says the three-month mark only makes him more determined to search.
"I want to thank everybody that's still supporting this and still has hope for Hailey," said Clint Dunn, Hailey's father. "I'm just spreading the word. I'm trying to get it out of Texas and out to states, and I'm trying to spread awareness."
Hailey's mother also told KTXS another candlelight vigil will be held at the six-month mark of her disappearance.


Why the H would a mother be so quick to say that so matter of factly, she's telling us she has no hope Hailey could return sooner (or at all). :smt076

NOTE:   There may be video up later tonight or tomorrow at the above link because it aired locally on their broadcast

Wow!  Has her brain been fried on drugs?



not sure if Billie has no hope or more that she KNOWS that Hailey won't be returning .... ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: melisb on March 28, 2011, 10:08:30 AM
You're right, if her atty is there you can't see him and she has to be the stupidest biatch ever dropped on the planet.  Who says that about their child??????  Poor Clint, he's not well versed either but dammit if he isn't out there trying to do something for his little girl!  There does seem to be a shift in the crowd more towards CD.  I hope BD felt totally alone and isolated during this.  You know she only came because she found out a news station would be televising a portion of it.  Wonder if she made that stupid statement just hoping they would put her on tv?  Oh my, that's almost funny they gave her one line in print and no face time!  How you like that Billie?  You get the hint yet?  Tell a news station what you really know and I promise they will put you on tv!  Gotta go to work, y'all have a wonderful day.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 28, 2011, 10:48:02 AM
This was snipped from a post of Janet's in thread nine.

Shawn's mother and brother live in the home in Big Spring where the computer that contained child porn was confiscated by investigators.

Also ... there is a Steve Walker.  Is he Christina's husband?

Then there is the boat owner ... Brad Roberts.  Where does he fit into the picture.  Apparently ... Brad also resides at 2807 Apache Drive.

In the March 3rd BTHN interview ... Shawn absolves his mother and brother and himself from implication in the accessing of child porn but not Steve Walker ... not Brad Roberts.  Why?

I know that I am playing the devil's adovcate but ... I have a little nagging doubt regarding Shawn's association with child porn.  I could be wrong but after thinking about it ... my instincts tell me that Shawn's attorney would be telling him to zip it in regards to the child porn issue if he wasn't convinced that his client was revealing the truth.  After all ... computer techs have ways of determining who and when this stuff was downloaded ... accessed.

Janet


Did anyone ever determine who Brad Roberts is? I keep wondering why Shawn has not been arrested with regards to the kiddie porn. I am not super computer suavie. Let's just say for the sake of argument that Shawn did not know there was kiddie porn on his mother's computer. When he downloaded whatever he wanted to download onto the drive that they found in Billie's drawer, would it automatically include the kiddie porn? What I am trying to ask is, if Shawn downloaded family photos from his mom's computer, could there have been kiddie porn on there that he may not have known was on there? I hope I am making sense!

Tamikosmom
Re: Hailey Dunn #9 3/05/11 -
« Reply #121 on: March 09, 2011, 12:36:49 AM »

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9511.msg1313625;topicseen#msg1313625
_____


Sebastian

When I posted the above words ... it had not been revealed that child porn was found on Shawn's cell.  It had not been revealed that there was child porn discovered on the computer at his mothers home also.  There were media reports that no child porn was on the memory stick.  The computer at the home of Shawn's mother was the only issue.

However ... when the huge volume of images are considered ... could it be that Shawn AND others were involved in the child porn industry?

It is my hope that investigators are connecting the dots and ... this is why Shawn Atkins has not yet been arrested for possession of child porn.

My position still remains firm in regards to Billie.  I do not believe that she was a player in the direct happenings encompassing the disappearance of her daughter but ... she unwittingly set the stage by not putting the well-being of her children above all.

Janet

+++++


KTXS EXCLUSIVE: More Child Porn Found Connected To Suspect In Hailey Dunn Case
POSTED: 12:36 pm CDT March 18, 2011
UPDATED: 3:38 pm CDT March 18, 2011


<snipped>

Adkins' grandmother's home in southern Scurry County is the same home where investigators served the warrant Thursday and took electronic devices. Another resident of that home told authorities that Adkins used the computer "all the time," according to the affidavit.

The warrant also mentions that two Kodak Easy Share cameras were in the home, and that some of the pornographic images were taken or transmitted via a Kodak Easy Share camera. Investigators planned to seize the two cameras, among the many other devices, looking for more evidence.

The warrant, issued by District Judge Ernie Armstrong in Scurry County, gave law enforcement the right to take cameras, cell phones, computers, printers and other devices that may contain child pornography.

J. Bruce Flournoy, a deputy with the Garza County Sheriff's Office and computer forensics expert, requested the warrant.

<snipped>

LOTS MORE:
http://www.ktxs.com/news/27240749/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 28, 2011, 11:02:48 AM
I do not claim any pyschic abilities but I will predict ... Peter Hyatt is going to have a field day in regards to the the following words of Billie Dunn.

Janet

++++

Family, Friends Mark Three Months Since Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
POSTED: 10:35 pm CDT March 27, 2011
UPDATED: 7:28 am CDT March 28, 2011


COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Friends and family gathered at Ruddick Park in Colorado City on Sunday to pray for the safe return of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, who's been missing for three months.

<snipped>

Hailey's mother also told KTXS another candlelight vigil will be held at the six-month mark of her disappearance.

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/27339854/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Sister on March 28, 2011, 11:09:16 AM
OMG.  Did you see that Clint is wearing a Hailey shirt with a Hailey button, and Billie is wearing a Colorado hoodie?  What is wrong with her?  It's a vigil for her missing daughter!  ::MonkeyMad::

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?fbid=161390527251742&id=141796342544494&aid=34930
Grace, it is my personal opinion Billie knows Hailey is not coming back . . . no need for a shirt or button, just a need for another vigil is 6 months.  It makes me very sad.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 28, 2011, 11:41:41 AM
Hi Janet,
It is driving me nuts that Shawn has not been arrested for the kiddie porn. Having said that, I don't know what the typical length of time is for an arrest of this nature. I wonder if they are trying to see how many charges to file? The kiddie porn is a big hang up for me. I spent hours going through these threads last night and I am still not anywhere close to being done. I have tried to put the kiddie porn aside in my mind and look at this and all of the players evenly. The thing with the kiddie porn is this. I would think, (and I sure could be wrong), that if the kiddie porn involved very young children, that Shawn would be sitting in a prison cell right now. I cannot help but wonder if the girls or boys or both in question in the porn LOOK young. For example, an 18 year old that looks 14? If that is the case than LE would have to PROVE the ages before charges could be brought. So, with this mind set for the moment, what else do we have on Shawn? He was allegedly the last person to see Hailey and he lied about going straight to Grandma's on the day Hailey disappeared. He is into slasher movies and likes to wear masks. From what we have heard, Hailey did not like him, but we have also heard that she wanted her parents back together. My problem AT THE MOMENT, is this. Colorado City is a tiny little town with a very high crime rate. There are 10 sex offenders in that tiny little town and a whole host of others with criminal records. There are two things that I am having a hard time wrapping my head around with regards to Shawn. 1. He has known Hailey for over 2 years and has lived with her for 4 months. Why would Shawn chose to harm her now? 2. Shawn had to know after Hailey went missing that LE would be all over him. Why did he not get rid of the kiddie porn? Yes, Shawn appears to have some serious issues with regards to masks, slasher movies et all. There are many in that town with much more serious issues such as the registered sex offenders, one of whom is HIGH risk. Again, I am not saying that Shawn did not do something to Hailey, I am just trying to look at other angles.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 28, 2011, 11:50:05 AM
The other question that I have is the car that Shawn and Billie shared. Is it true that Shawn's truck was not running at the time Hailey disappeared? Have the truck and Billie's car been searched thoroughly by LE? If so, was anything found? Also, I am assuming that based on the low income levels in Colorado City that many of the residents are unemployed. How could Shawn get Hailey out of the house and into a vehicle without being noticed? Again, I am only playing devils advocate.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on March 28, 2011, 12:11:15 PM
As for these psychics.....I think they are all full of hooey !
Not one has done a thing for any of these cases.
I do feel that we all can develop our abilities to
become sensitive to situations, and use ur gut,
but if the psychics were capable of what they claim......
THEN WHY HAVEN'T ONE OF THEM TOLD US WHERE
THE LAST 2 HAILEY'S ARE ??? ::MonkeyMad::
Yuppers, HOOEY !
I saw this show the night  it was on. The interviewer showed the renowned psychic a child's pic, of herself,
and wanted to know where she was and how she died. When the host told her it was indeed of her, the psychic got
very angry and left ! HOOEY, like I said ! These people offer false hope to the loved ones of the missing,
and drain their funds ! HOOEY !

I fell asleep on the sofa a few weeks back and woke up to a story (one of the investigative programs?) about  a psychic. The psychic was shown a photo of the interviewer when she was child. This woman proceeded to tell the interviewer about how the child in the photo died etc. Did anyone else see the story? I wish I could remember the psychic's name.

I found the link  ::piggy::

http://www.insideedition.com/videos/847/inside-edition-investigates-psychic-detectives-who-claim-to-find-missing-persons.aspx
Thank you for the interesting link.  Monkeys, we've had the the psychic pros/cons discussions before on our MP threads and it's better to move on and not derail this thread with further discussion about it especially concerning other cases.  Let's keep this thread about Hailey Dunn.  MB


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 28, 2011, 12:15:48 PM
Sebastian

I did waver somewhat regarding Shawn's involvement with child porn in the period in time that the computer at his mother's home was the only known electronic device that contained those images.  After all there were other persons who resided in that household.  However ... the recent revelations that exposed all the electronics that contained child porn ... electronics that had a connection to Shawn ... implied that I could no longer afford him the benefit of the doubt.  The volume of images causes me to suspect that the implication is that Shawn and possibly others are involved in the distribution of child porn.

However ... in regards to the disappearance of Hailey ... I have never wavered from my position.  I have suspected Shawn from almost the getgo.

The words of Hailey's grandma and auntie regarding her granddaughter's fear of Shawn as well as the words within the affidavits ... words that revealed Shawn's lies and  deception regarding his actions and whereabouts on the morning of December 27th ... affirms my suspicions.

I could be wrong but ... until the truth is revealed ... speculations is where it is at.

Janet


+++++

Auntie

Hailey Dunn: Called Her Aunt Crying Days Before Disappearance
Posted: February 4, 2011


The last person who saw Hailey was Shawn Adkins, her mother’s boyfriend. He is a person of interest in the case and, as Theresa Gaddis, Hailey’s aunt, tells OK!, he has been quite a frightening figure in Hailey’s life. “A few days before she disappeared, Hailey called me crying,” explains Theresa. “She said, “I don’t want to go to my house; I’m not comfortable around my stepdad.” She hated Shawn.

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OK! magazine, February 14, 2011

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/02/04/hailey-dunn-phone-call-to-aunt-day-before-disappearance/


[b]Nana

Missing Texas Girl Hailey Dunn 'Scared' of Shawn Adkins
Grandmother Says Adkins Would Stand in Girl's Bedroom Doorway and Watch Her
Jan. 13, 2011[/b]

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Hailey told her grandmother that Adkins would pace around the house at night, talking on his cell phone in the bathroom and peering into her bedroom.

"She had told me on a couple of occasions that...he walked around at night and she said that she could see his shadow standing at her door. She said, 'Nana, he scared me. I'm afraid he's going to come in there,'" Jones said.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/shawn-adkins-named-person-interst-case-missing-texas/story?id=12608537


Lies and Deception

Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 2:17 pm CST January 12, 2011


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One inconsistency in Adkins’ statements involved his employment on Dec. 27. Adkins told investigators that he was fired that day, but authorities contacted the employer, who said that Adkins was a good employee and that he hadn’t been fired.

Nevertheless, Adkins left his place of employment at 6:10 a.m. on the morning of Dec. 27 and told investigators that he went straight to his mother’s house in Big Spring. However, cell phone records indicate that Adkins’ cell phone was in contact with cell towers in the Colorado City area from 6:35 a.m. until 6:56 a.m., during the time when he said he was traveling to Big Spring.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 28, 2011, 12:33:57 PM
The other question that I have is the car that Shawn and Billie shared. Is it true that Shawn's truck was not running at the time Hailey disappeared? Have the truck and Billie's car been searched thoroughly by LE? If so, was anything found? Also, I am assuming that based on the low income levels in Colorado City that many of the residents are unemployed. How could Shawn get Hailey out of the house and into a vehicle without being noticed?  Again, I am only playing devils advocate.

I do not think that would be difficult if the vehicle was parked next to the home.  Prior to 7:00 AM ... I assume not many neigbours were observing the comings and goings at Billie's residence.

Considering the following ... I do not believe that Hailey Dunn walked out of that home.

Janet

+++++

It was Cold Outside

Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's DisappearanceBy Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 2:17 pm CST January 12, 2011


<snipped>

Law enforcement officials detailed what Hailey left behind at her home: cash, a toothbrush, hairbrush, contact solution, a new MP3 player – and a jacket that friends say she would not have left home without.

The weather was cold outside, but Adkins said he last saw Hailey leaving without the jacket and the personal items.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


Tennis Shoes Found

Efforts continue to find Hailey Dunn
Posted January 5, 2011 - 10:43am


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“She didn’t take any shoes or boots,” Dunn said. Originally, she thought Hailey was wearing tennis shoes but discovered them in her daughter’s room. “It was cold and she was wearing flip flops. It’s what scares me the most.”

<snipped>

http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/2011/01/efforts-continue-find-hailey-dunn


Updated AMW Missing Persons Alert

AMW Case

Hailey Darlene Dunn


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Police say Hailey Darlene Dunn is a student and cheerleader at Colorado City Middle School. They say the 13-year-old girl was last seen wearing navy blue sweatpants, a short-sleeved light-colored T-shirt, flip flops and red hoop earrings. They say Hailey’s upper left ear is also pierced, and she stands at 5 feet 1 inch tall and weighs around 120 pounds. She has hazel eyes and light brown hair with blond highlights.

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http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=76136



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 28, 2011, 12:48:57 PM
Off to the airport with hubby and his sisters to pick up relatives arriving from Japan for a family wedding.  Although these relatives live in a southern prefecture and were not directly affected by the devastating earthquake and tsnami ... I am sure they will have lots to reveal.

I am anticipating that there will be at least one arrest in the Hailey Dunn case while I am off the forum today.  After all ... investigators have had three months to put together a case..

When I consider the Haleigh Cummings case ... I am so afraid that the Hailey Dunn case going to go cold and ... justice is not going to happen.

Later, Janet
9:45 AM PT


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 28, 2011, 01:40:41 PM
have been doing some plotting,looking for the least amount
of activity in scurry,mitchell,and howard counties,and trying
to stay close to the time frame of the last cell ping,in Ccity
at 6;54am and the 1st cell ping in Bs at 9;38am
to get to a possible disposal site,with the least amount of oil
wells,windmills,ect, you have to go to B on map,between B,C,D,E,
there seems to be less habitation,and wells,mills,not totally void
but spread out enough,that you might go unnoticed
 
http://tinyurl.com/4deuw8n

-----------------------------
a little more plotting,so you can see the mileage
routes are for cyclists,should be close in car miles

To Bs,-ranch road 669,-sr 180,-sr 208,-IR 20,- Bs, Total Distance-135.2551 mi
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4381939

from Ccity,-lake jb thomas,-Bs,  Total Distance-82.6773 mi
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4381973

from Ccity- RT350-Bs.-Total Distance: 67.7253 miles
 http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4382000
--------------------------
here are some topos, for the searchers that read here,and the monkeys that
are searching too, to capture and link a zoom,right click the (link to
this pg) button in the green box,copy shortcut, can be pasted in a post
reply box,email,search bar, ect.there is a white cross hair mark for 
centering between map views,and marking, the options button has,options
for photos size,mile,km ect.the about button gives more detailed instructions

if you would like your links shorter tiny url can do it,just copy,paste link
click make tiny,copy and paste tiny link where ever
http://tinyurl.com/

USGS topographic maps symbols
http://egsc.usgs.gov/isb/pubs/booklets/symbols/topomapsymbols.pdf

howard county tx topo map
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=32.31,-101.44&z=11&t=T&marker0=32.31,-101.44,Howard%20County,%20Texas

scurry county tx
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=32.75,-100.92&z=11&t=T&marker0=32.75,-100.92,Scurry%20County,%20Texas

mitchell county tx
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=32.3,-100.92&z=11&t=T&marker0=32.3,-100.92,Mitchell%20County,%20Texas










Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 28, 2011, 01:46:05 PM
sorry forgot i did the psychics route too

Quote
Freida Ratcliff, who is one of the searchers searching for Hailey, went on a drive guided by psychic Gail St.John.  Freida was guided North on Hwy 208 to a white church, then onto County Road 153; then onto County Road 163 on the Mitchell/Scurry County Line. 
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9552.msg1320508#msg1320508

looking over the psychics dirs,i feel for the person, that was following the dirs,
they were going in circles,had to be a let down,when they figured it out, some
of the links are street view,some arent,zoom in out accordingly
------------------
scurry county
Ccity to N208 to cr153 to cr163 to dunn
http://tinyurl.com/48ec778
http://tinyurl.com/4be2l9v

cr163 and cr153, both dead end into ftm 1808,on opposite sides of SR208
http://tinyurl.com/6j6h9y2
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i did find that cr163 and cr153,run into michell county too,just picked up
on the south end of Ccity

mitchell county
 south of Ccity cr163 and on the far right of map is cr153
http://tinyurl.com/4k7avxk
http://tinyurl.com/4gkvdw8

colorado river running under cr163 south of Ccity facing east
http://tinyurl.com/66cx8fd
colorado river running under cr163 south of Ccity facing west
http://tinyurl.com/65tdwng

topo of the churches, center the cross hair on subject,and switch map views
or center it and hit mark in the green box

http://tinyurl.com/4d3b7wm
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=32.42169,-100.85975&z=16&t=T&marker0=32.75000%2C-100.92000%2CScurry%20County%2C%20Texas


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 28, 2011, 04:40:52 PM
The other question that I have is the car that Shawn and Billie shared. Is it true that Shawn's truck was not running at the time Hailey disappeared? Have the truck and Billie's car been searched thoroughly by LE? If so, was anything found? Also, I am assuming that based on the low income levels in Colorado City that many of the residents are unemployed. How could Shawn get Hailey out of the house and into a vehicle without being noticed? Again, I am only playing devils advocate.

Sebastian ... the following affidavit will reveal what was found during the search of Billie's vehicle but ... nothing to indicate if the find was case related.

I am off again.  Hubby invited sisters/BILs as well as guests from Japan back to our home.  They should all arrive here in about an hour.  There was a holdup at immigration that has now been out.  Thankfully ... I do not have to do any cooking.  Eating out to night is where it is at.  One of my SILs made reservations.

 ::monkeydust::

Janet
1:40 PM PT

++++++

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/images/Multi_Media/bigcountryhomepage/nxd_media/img/jpg/2011_01/4d759e30-b024-2124-b501-76d68c7c6870/



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 28, 2011, 05:25:17 PM
The other question that I have is the car that Shawn and Billie shared. Is it true that Shawn's truck was not running at the time Hailey disappeared? Have the truck and Billie's car been searched thoroughly by LE? If so, was anything found? Also, I am assuming that based on the low income levels in Colorado City that many of the residents are unemployed. How could Shawn get Hailey out of the house and into a vehicle without being noticed? Again, I am only playing devils advocate.

Sebastian ... the following affidavit will reveal what was found during the search of Billie's vehicle but ... nothing to indicate if the find was case related.

I am off again.  Hubby invited sisters/BILs as well as guests from Japan back to our home.  They should all arrive here in about an hour.  There was a holdup at immigration that has now been out.  Thankfully ... I do not have to do any cooking.  Eating out to night is where it is at.  One of my SILs made reservations.

 ::monkeydust::

Janet
1:40 PM PT

++++++

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/images/Multi_Media/bigcountryhomepage/nxd_media/img/jpg/2011_01/4d759e30-b024-2124-b501-76d68c7c6870/



Hi Janet,
Thanks so much for the document. I know at one time labs were severely backlogged in Texas, so the fact that no news has been released is not surprising. Here is where I am right now. I believe AT THIS MOMENT, that the kiddie porn was probably girls who looked as if they could be underage. If there was proof that they were, it seems that Shawn would be sitting in the pokey. Again, I am not any sort of expert on these matters, just my gut feeling at the moment. If Shawn had kiddie porn of little kids, it seems he would have scrambled to at least get rid of the drive in Billie's dresser drawer. I find it very hard to believe that anyone would be stupid enough to leave it there. So, what do we have left? Shawn claims he went straight to Grandma's after leaving work. Playing devil's advocate, he could have gone back to Billie's to pick something up. Maybe he did not bother to check on the kids and got what he needed and left. Who knows, maybe he was picking up drugs. Either way he could have lied because he did not want to place himself in the home when he knew he was innocent or he did not want to give out his drug sources for being in Colorado City when he said he was not. With regards to him lying about being fired, well, again, playing devil's advocate, there could be an explanation for that as well. Maybe Shawn did not like his job. Maybe he is just a lazy loaf who prefers not to work. Rather than say he quit his job, he lied and said he got fired. What else does that leave us with? He likes slasher movies, weird song lyrics and masks. Who the heck knows why he is into that stuff. I know lots of people who like those creepy movies and cannot wait until the next one comes out. I have never seen one and do not care to ever see one. They are not for me. I do however love true crime and murder mysteries. If someone were to raid my home, they would find tons of books, but the majority are the forementioned. I guess I am having a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that Shawn would be clever enough to kill Hailey, remove her body without being seen, dump her body without being seen, dump her body where it has not been discovered and apparently (so far) left no forensic evidence anywhere. Yet he was stupid enough to leave that drive in Billie's drawer. I completely understand why you think Shawn did it. I guess I am just not completely convinced yet at the exclusion of all of the other possible suspects in that tiny town with the high crime rate.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 28, 2011, 05:26:37 PM
Janet,
I forgot to add, have fun with your friends! What a great thing to have international friends visiting! I am so glad that they were spared from the horrible tragedy there in Japan!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 28, 2011, 09:54:59 PM
Janet,
I forgot to add, have fun with your friends! What a great thing to have international friends visiting! I am so glad that they were spared from the horrible tragedy there in Japan!

Sebastian

We had a wonderful day.  Following dinner at a local Chinese Restaurant in the Fraser Valley ... cousins from Japan returned to Vancouver with Hubby's sisters.  Jet lag implied they were ready to call it a night.  Hey ... I am ready to call it a night.  I am wiped.  Maybe I will read a little.

It was so quiet on the forum this afternoon.  I am disappointed that there are no updates in the Hailey Dunn case.  What is going on within that investigation?  Three months and ... still no arrests!

Good Night All

Janet
6:50 PM PT


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cookie on March 28, 2011, 10:13:48 PM
nite Janet and other monkeys..thought I would stop in before bed to see if there is any news on our missing kids..none I see..
talk to you all tomorrow...hope we get some news ..


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 28, 2011, 10:13:57 PM
OMG.  Did you see that Clint is wearing a Hailey shirt with a Hailey button, and Billie is wearing a Colorado hoodie?  What is wrong with her?  It's a vigil for her missing daughter!  ::MonkeyMad::

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?fbid=161390527251742&id=141796342544494&aid=34930

Welll to be fair, it's Colorado City Wolves hoodie, and Hailey's room had a lot of CC Wolves stuff because she adores her big brother and his teams.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 28, 2011, 10:15:33 PM

not sure if Billie has no hope or more that she KNOWS that Hailey won't be returning .... ::MonkeyMad::

I tend to think the former.  In fact, I am SO stunned that even WITH a lawyer, BD is such a bleeping numbskull that she actually said to expect a vigil at 6 months.  There is no end to the vacuum between her ears, really - there just isn't.

But hey - keep talking, Billie!  Keep on talkin'!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 28, 2011, 10:16:03 PM

not sure if Billie has no hope or more that she KNOWS that Hailey won't be returning .... ::MonkeyMad::

I tend to think the former.  In fact, I am SO stunned that even WITH a lawyer, BD is such a bleeping numbskull that she actually said to expect a vigil at 6 months.  There is no end to the vacuum between her ears, really - there just isn't.

But hey - keep talking, Billie!  Keep on talkin'!

Apparently I'm going to join her in the numbskull club - I MEANT to say the latter -that she knows Hailey won't return.  Derp!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 28, 2011, 10:16:56 PM
I do not claim any pyschic abilities but I will predict ... Peter Hyatt is going to have a field day in regards to the the following words of Billie Dunn.

Janet

++++

Family, Friends Mark Three Months Since Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
POSTED: 10:35 pm CDT March 27, 2011
UPDATED: 7:28 am CDT March 28, 2011


COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Friends and family gathered at Ruddick Park in Colorado City on Sunday to pray for the safe return of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, who's been missing for three months.

<snipped>

Hailey's mother also told KTXS another candlelight vigil will be held at the six-month mark of her disappearance.

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/27339854/detail.html

Confess!!!  You've been borrowing Capp's crystal ball, haven't you? 
I'm putting my money on your prediction, Janet. :D


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 28, 2011, 10:20:25 PM
Bah!  I get on and everyone's already off to bed.  No news today, and it really bothers me.  As I was falling asleep last night, I was just overcome and just begging God desperately that Hailey be found.  The more time passes, the less hope there is for (at this point - and forgive me for saying it) finding evidence, finding cause of death, finding DNA. 

Bleak much?  Yes, in fact, I do lately.  I just want the right people in jail - yesterday-thirty, and Hailey found.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 28, 2011, 10:38:25 PM
I don't know if anyone has followed Megan's case, but she has been found. Sorry for the O/T but I love good news!
http://www.kztv10.com/news/missing-ingleside-girl-found-in-aransas-pass/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Thunder_Sis on March 28, 2011, 10:40:45 PM
Sebastian, my thoughts on the thing found in the dresser drawer. Have you ever hid something and forgot about it or not remembered where you put it? I have many times. I'm still looking for an envelope that had a power of attorney paper in it that I hid several years ago.
Also maybe they didn't think LE would be going through drawers in their bedroom like they did.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 28, 2011, 10:41:49 PM
Janet,
I forgot to add, have fun with your friends! What a great thing to have international friends visiting! I am so glad that they were spared from the horrible tragedy there in Japan!

Sebastian

We had a wonderful day.  Following dinner at a local Chinese Restaurant in the Fraser Valley ... cousins from Japan returned to Vancouver with Hubby's sisters.  Jet lag implied they were ready to call it a night.  Hey ... I am ready to call it a night.  I am wiped.  Maybe I will read a little.

It was so quiet on the forum this afternoon.  I am disappointed that there are no updates in the Hailey Dunn case.  What is going on within that investigation?  Three months and ... still no arrests!

Good Night All

Janet
6:50 PM PT


Janet,
I am so glad you had a fun day! I wish I knew what was going on with Hailey's case too. I just don't want it to be another case that drags on and on to no avail and no suspects in custody, ugh!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 28, 2011, 10:58:34 PM
Sebastian, my thoughts on the thing found in the dresser drawer. Have you ever hid something and forgot about it or not remembered where you put it? I have many times. I'm still looking for an envelope that had a power of attorney paper in it that I hid several years ago.
Also maybe they didn't think LE would be going through drawers in their bedroom like they did.

Hi Thunder_Sis,
Sad to say, I forget where I put things all of the time,  ::MonkeyDevil::. The only thing I hide are snacks from hubby and daughter, lol. I am no way trying to minimalize child porn. I think it is the most disgusting thing in the world. I also think beastiality is disgusting, as I am also a huge animal lover. It just doesn't make sense, that if Shawn had porn, the kind of porn that was obvious child porn, that he would not have torn the house apart to find it prior to LE coming in. It was stated early on that Billie was a huge true crime lover. Remember, she downloaded all sorts of true crime stories to read? Well, if she knew that there was kiddie porn on that drive, you would think that she herself would have torn the house apart looking for it prior to LE coming in. Again, I could be wrong. They could just be extremely stupid, but it just nags at me.

Early on Marc Klaas made some derogatory statements with regards to the local police. It was Billie herself who called in the state troopers. I would just hate to see the local LE focus on Shawn and Shawn only because he appears to be such a creep. I would hate it if Hailey is alive somewhere and no one is looking because Shawn is such an idiot and lied all over himself and seems to be incapable of keeping his stories straight. I would like to add that people who do drugs can be habitual liars. They lie even when there is no reason to lie.

I don't know what to think. I just don't want to see this case ever go cold.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 29, 2011, 12:15:55 AM
I went in and re-read all of the affidavits. They are on this forum. In one of the affidavits, Shawn was said to say that Hailey was a good girl early on in the investigation. As the investigation went on, Shawn made some derogatory statements regarding Hailey. I don't want to put them here as she is a minor, but I am really bothered by these comments made by Shawn. I cannot figure out if he is your typical phsycho who blames the victim or if any of these accusations were true. If these accusations are true, than her friends need to be looked at a lot more closely. JMO

Sebastian- in future, please tell us which affidavit, because there are a number of them. Some affidavits are posted in the document thread in Hailey's forum,  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9331.0 and if it's one of those, then you could also provide a link.  It's really helpful.  Thanks.  MB


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 29, 2011, 09:38:51 AM
I went in and re-read all of the affidavits. They are on this forum. In one of the affidavits, Shawn was said to say that Hailey was a good girl early on in the investigation. As the investigation went on, Shawn made some derogatory statements regarding Hailey. I don't want to put them here as she is a minor, but I am really bothered by these comments made by Shawn. I cannot figure out if he is your typical phsycho who blames the victim or if any of these accusations were true. If these accusations are true, than her friends need to be looked at a lot more closely. JMO

BJD denied those allegations.  In this case, however, who are you going to believe.  I would expect that LE has interviewed Hailey's classmates and teachers and would have gotten a pretty accurate assessment from them of the kind of girl the she was.  I personally don't believe what Shawn said and believe it is justification from him for what I believe he did to Hailey. ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cookie on March 29, 2011, 10:13:24 AM
I don't know if anyone has followed Megan's case, but she has been found. Sorry for the O/T but I love good news!
http://www.kztv10.com/news/missing-ingleside-girl-found-in-aransas-pass/
Edit to add missing quote bracket/fix quote.  MB

good news! there is always hope!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cookie on March 29, 2011, 10:13:56 AM
sorry that I got into your quote...geez! haven't done that for awhile...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cookie on March 29, 2011, 10:14:56 AM
I went in and re-read all of the affidavits. They are on this forum. In one of the affidavits, Shawn was said to say that Hailey was a good girl early on in the investigation. As the investigation went on, Shawn made some derogatory statements regarding Hailey. I don't want to put them here as she is a minor, but I am really bothered by these comments made by Shawn. I cannot figure out if he is your typical phsycho who blames the victim or if any of these accusations were true. If these accusations are true, than her friends need to be looked at a lot more closely. JMO

BJD denied those allegations.  In this case, however, who are you going to believe.  I would expect that LE has interviewed Hailey's classmates and teachers and would have gotten a pretty accurate assessment from them of the kind of girl the she was.  I personally don't believe what Shawn said and believe it is justification from him for what I believe he did to Hailey. ::CowboySmiley::

Agree


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on March 29, 2011, 12:01:53 PM
flutter and cookie:
I don't believe everything that Peter Hyatt writes on his blog.
I do believe though that we often speak from the heart,
from our "inner" vocabulary.

I do not doubt what Shawn stated about Hailey being
a promiscuous teen, etc. were said because of the
horrible things he forced on her.

Billie's comment about having another vigil at the 6 mo. mark,
now that ranks right up there for me ! Sicko ! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 29, 2011, 02:03:26 PM
I don't recall seeing this before:

Quote
The affidavit notes that some pornographic images were retrieved from the memory stick and cell phone owned by Adkins were made with a Kodak Easy Share camera.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353726

So not all of the images were from other sources, some were Shawn-grown  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 29, 2011, 03:28:31 PM
I don't recall seeing this before:

Quote
The affidavit notes that some pornographic images were retrieved from the memory stick and cell phone owned by Adkins were made with a Kodak Easy Share camera.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353726

So not all of the images were from other sources, some were Shawn-grown  ::MonkeyMad::

Thanks Flutter.

Has the actual document been posted online?

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 29, 2011, 05:19:07 PM
I am still going back through all of the old threads. I just found something out. Before my head completely spins out of control, has any monkey been able to verify David Dunn's real father's name? Has his sex offender and criminal record been posted on here? TIA


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 29, 2011, 05:32:55 PM
Someone posted David Gloria's entire criminal record on facebook. If I provide a link, will it show my facebook name?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 29, 2011, 05:33:12 PM
I am still going back through all of the old threads. I just found something out. Before my head completely spins out of control, has any monkey been able to verify David Dunn's real father's name? Has his sex offender and criminal record been posted on here? TIA

David Dunn's Birth Certificate

Klaasen
Re: Hailey Dunn #4 1/22/11 -
« Reply #649 on: January 27, 2011, 12:19:32 AM »


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9336.msg1295884


David Gloria - David Dunn's Birth Father

cartfly
Re: Hailey Dunn #7 2/11/11 -
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2011, 02:34:34 AM »


http://168.51.178.33/webapp/TDCJ/InmateDetails.jsp?sidnumber=05955382

SID Number:    05955382
TDCJ Number:    01683464
Name:    GLORIA,DAVID
Race:    H
Sex:    M
Age:    31
Maximum Sentence Date:    2013-09-27       
Current Facility:    GARZA EAST
Projected Release Date:    2012-02-15
Parole Eligibility Date:    2011-02-01
 
SPECIAL INFORMATION FOR SCHEDULED RELEASE:
Scheduled Release Date:    Offender is not scheduled for release at this time.
Scheduled Release Type:    Will be determined when release date is scheduled.
Scheduled Release Location:    Will be determined when release date is scheduled.
 
Offense History:
Offense Date    Offense    Sentence Date    County    Case No.    Sentence (Y-MM-DD)
2000-11-02    ASLT ON PUBLIC SERVANT    2001-04-23    GONZALES    8-01    5-00-00
2009-02-10    POSS MARIJ 4OZ-5LBS    2010-09-30    GUADALUPE    09-1961-CR    3-00-00

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9404.msg1303552;topicseen#msg1303552



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 29, 2011, 05:37:38 PM
I am still going back through all of the old threads. I just found something out. Before my head completely spins out of control, has any monkey been able to verify David Dunn's real father's name? Has his sex offender and criminal record been posted on here? TIA

David Dunn's Birth Certificate

Klaasen
Re: Hailey Dunn #4 1/22/11 -
« Reply #649 on: January 27, 2011, 12:19:32 AM »


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9336.msg1295884


David Gloria - David Dunn's Birth Father

cartfly
Re: Hailey Dunn #7 2/11/11 -
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2011, 02:34:34 AM »


http://168.51.178.33/webapp/TDCJ/InmateDetails.jsp?sidnumber=05955382

SID Number:    05955382
TDCJ Number:    01683464
Name:    GLORIA,DAVID
Race:    H
Sex:    M
Age:    31
Maximum Sentence Date:    2013-09-27       
Current Facility:    GARZA EAST
Projected Release Date:    2012-02-15
Parole Eligibility Date:    2011-02-01
 
SPECIAL INFORMATION FOR SCHEDULED RELEASE:
Scheduled Release Date:    Offender is not scheduled for release at this time.
Scheduled Release Type:    Will be determined when release date is scheduled.
Scheduled Release Location:    Will be determined when release date is scheduled.
 
Offense History:
Offense Date    Offense    Sentence Date    County    Case No.    Sentence (Y-MM-DD)
2000-11-02    ASLT ON PUBLIC SERVANT    2001-04-23    GONZALES    8-01    5-00-00
2009-02-10    POSS MARIJ 4OZ-5LBS    2010-09-30    GUADALUPE    09-1961-CR    3-00-00

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9404.msg1303552;topicseen#msg1303552



Hi Janet,
It is a whole lot longer than this and it says he is a registered sex offender. I want to bring it over from facebook, but if I copy it, I am afraid it will give out my name on facebook.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 29, 2011, 05:43:35 PM
I don't do Facebook.  Is there an official link where one of our Monkey computer techs could acess/copy/paste that information?

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 29, 2011, 06:20:41 PM
Sebastian - I don't think it will show your facebook link but you can email me the link and I'll paste it in a thread here and make sure it doesn't share any of your info:

smklaas@hotmail.com


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: klaasend on March 29, 2011, 07:19:49 PM
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Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: 4myjoey on March 29, 2011, 08:27:18 PM
News Conference Planned Related to Hailey Dunn Case


A news conference is set for Wednesday morning in Colorado City related to the Hailey Dunn case.

KRBC's Jessica Reyes reports the focus will likely be on the reward in the case -- not necessarily the investigation

Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer has called 11:00 a.m. news conference.




http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356576


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 29, 2011, 09:30:39 PM
News Conference Planned Related to Hailey Dunn Case


A news conference is set for Wednesday morning in Colorado City related to the Hailey Dunn case.

KRBC's Jessica Reyes reports the focus will likely be on the reward in the case -- not necessarily the investigation

Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer has called 11:00 a.m. news conference.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356576

Thank you 4myjoey.

I hope there is time set aside for questions and answers.

I cannot comprehend why an official flyer was not distributed early on by investigators ... an official flyer with a photo of Shawn and the vehicle that Shawn was driving on the morning of December 27th as well as identifying the area indicated by the cell phone pings.  Could there have been at lease one witness to a disposal of a body .... at least one witness who did not realize at the time what he/she was observing.

Think about the Kyron Horman case and ... Terri Horman has yet to be officially declared a person of interest.

Janet

+++++

Kyron Horman Case

Police hope stepmom's photo will help spark more tips for Kyron Horman investigation
Published: Friday, June 18, 2010, 5:25 PM
Updated: Monday, June 21, 2010, 10:15 AM


Kyron Horman's stepmother was the last known person to see the 7-year-old on the day that he disappeared, said Capt. Jason Gates, and authorities hope her photo might help jog the memories of other witnesses.

The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office is distributing a flier showing photos of Terri Moulton Horman and the type of pickup she is thought to have driven on June 4, the day the second-grader disappeared from Skyline School.

"Sometimes in jogging peoples memories, sometimes it's the other things about that day or what was going on around them that will jog their memory with anything else they might have seen with regard to Kyron," Gates said.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/police_issue_questionnaire_ask.html


New flier asks residents if they saw Horman, Spicher
Story Published: Aug 10, 2010 at 3:20 PM PST
Story Updated: Aug 10, 2010 at 10:15 PM PST


PORTLAND, Ore. - Investigators working on the Kyron Horman case released a new flier Tuesday that asks residents near Kyron's elementary school if they saw his stepmother, Terri Horman, and her close friend, DeDe Spicher the day he disappeared.

The two-page flier includes pictures of Horman, Spicher and the white pickup truck Horman was driving on June 4 the day Kyron vanished, and in it police ask residents if they saw the two or the pickup between the hours of 9:45 a.m. and 1 p.m. that day.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100392859.html



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 29, 2011, 09:43:56 PM
Sebastian - I don't think it will show your facebook link but you can email me the link and I'll paste it in a thread here and make sure it doesn't share any of your info:

smklaas@hotmail.com

Thanks Klaas, I will do it right now. Had to leave for a while for my daughters game.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cookie on March 29, 2011, 09:59:32 PM
flutter and cookie:
I don't believe everything that Peter Hyatt writes on his blog.
I do believe though that we often speak from the heart,
from our "inner" vocabulary.

I do not doubt what Shawn stated about Hailey being
a promiscuous teen, etc. were said because of the
horrible things he forced on her.

Billie's comment about having another vigil at the 6 mo. mark,
now that ranks right up there for me ! Sicko ! ::MonkeyMad::

yep


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 29, 2011, 10:07:33 PM
I am trying REALLY hard to stay open minded with regards to this case. It just keeps getting harder and harder, ugh!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on March 30, 2011, 12:20:02 AM
Let's summarize now for a sec~
David Dunn's Dad/drugs
Shawn Adkins/ drugs

Did Billie date ANYbody who was straight ?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on March 30, 2011, 12:21:58 AM
I am trying REALLY hard to stay open minded with regards to this case. It just keeps getting harder and harder, ugh!
sebastian: IMO this entire case is a social and MORAL disaster !
My heart breaks for Hailey and David.
More children guilty of nothing, except
being born to L O S E R S ! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 30, 2011, 12:35:36 AM
I am trying REALLY hard to stay open minded with regards to this case. It just keeps getting harder and harder, ugh!
sebastian: IMO this entire case is a social and MORAL disaster !
My heart breaks for Hailey and David.
More children guilty of nothing, except
being born to L O S E R S ! ::MonkeyMad::

Hi Lake Erie Princess,
My heart breaks for all of these children that have done NOTHING to deserve this sort of fate. These children are precious gifts from God and they keep going poof not to be seen or heard from again. It has to stop!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 30, 2011, 12:51:44 AM
I am assuming that when people are questioned, they are recorded. I think that LE needs to bring Billie back down to the station and play back the part where Shawn says awful things about Hailey. I think LE should ask this mother why her boyfriend would say such things and how she could ever look at his face again. I also find it interesting that Shawn apparently was the ONLY ONE who said that Hailey was ....... You guys read it, I don't need to tarnish her name any further.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on March 30, 2011, 01:39:50 AM
I am assuming that when people are questioned, they are recorded. I think that LE needs to bring Billie back down to the station and play back the part where Shawn says awful things about Hailey. I think LE should ask this mother why her boyfriend would say such things and how she could ever look at his face again. I also find it interesting that Shawn apparently was the ONLY ONE who said that Hailey was ....... You guys read it, I don't need to tarnish her name any further.


Sebastian...good point about playing back Shawn's words for Billie to hear.

Noticed the info on David Dunn's bio father; looks like he's 2 or 3 years "younger" than Billie.

Questions:
How old is David Dunn?
How old was Billie when she gave birth to David?
How old was David's father when David was born?
How old was David's father when David was conceived?


 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 30, 2011, 02:01:55 AM
I am assuming that when people are questioned, they are recorded. I think that LE needs to bring Billie back down to the station and play back the part where Shawn says awful things about Hailey. I think LE should ask this mother why her boyfriend would say such things and how she could ever look at his face again. I also find it interesting that Shawn apparently was the ONLY ONE who said that Hailey was ....... You guys read it, I don't need to tarnish her name any further.


Sebastian...good point about playing back Shawn's words for Billie to hear.

Noticed the info on David Dunn's bio father; looks like he's 2 or 3 years "younger" than Billie.

Questions:
How old is David Dunn?
How old was Billie when she gave birth to David?
How old was David's father when David was born?
How old was David's father when David was conceived?


 

Wait, what????  I was under the impression BD was 16 when David was born - that has huge implications if his father was 2-3 years younger.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 30, 2011, 02:44:14 AM
I saw this linked on topix today and thought it was odd.  The following is only an excerpt; the message in its entirety, including a statement concerning its transcription, can be found at the link provided.

Excerpt:
"As the search for missing C City teen Hailey Dunn continues, law enforcement officials are urging volunteers and search teams to use extra caution.
Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs told KBST today that, although volunteers are appreciated, the law still has to be followed throughout the investigation.
Rumors of non-authorized searches on private property, damage to private property, and personal friendships with any suspect or person of interest will be taken seriously.
Anyone who breaks the law during a volunteer search for Hailey Dunn can and will face criminal charges."

Link:  http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/03/28/hailey-dunn-transcript-law-enforcement-announcement-to-searchers-kbst-am-1490-radio-march-24-2011/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 30, 2011, 04:06:10 AM
I don't recall seeing this before:

Quote
The affidavit notes that some pornographic images were retrieved from the memory stick and cell phone owned by Adkins were made with a Kodak Easy Share camera.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353726

So not all of the images were from other sources, some were Shawn-grown  ::MonkeyMad::

Thanks Flutter.


Has the actual document been posted online?

Janet

Janet,

Here is the link.  It is on page three.

http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf (http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 30, 2011, 05:44:22 AM
I saw this linked on topix today and thought it was odd.  The following is only an excerpt; the message in its entirety, including a statement concerning its transcription, can be found at the link provided.

Excerpt:
"As the search for missing C City teen Hailey Dunn continues, law enforcement officials are urging volunteers and search teams to use extra caution.
Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs told KBST today that, although volunteers are appreciated, the law still has to be followed throughout the investigation.
Rumors of non-authorized searches on private property, damage to private property, and personal friendships with any suspect or person of interest will be taken seriously.
Anyone who breaks the law during a volunteer search for Hailey Dunn can and will face criminal charges."

Link:  http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/03/28/hailey-dunn-transcript-law-enforcement-announcement-to-searchers-kbst-am-1490-radio-march-24-2011/

Yes, it aired Sunday at this link which rolls over daily on the live stream (not sure if there is an archive of it) http://am.kbst.com/page.php?34



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 30, 2011, 08:59:47 AM
EXCLUSIVE: Officials Believe Hailey Dunn Is Dead; Reward Now For Her Whereabouts


ABILENE, Texas -- Officials close to the case now believe missing Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn is dead.

City Manager Pete Kampfer will confirm this revelation at a news conference Wednesday at noon in Colorado City with new information in the Hailey Dunn investigation. ::snipping2::


http://www.ktxs.com/news/27368552/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 30, 2011, 09:37:10 AM
flutter and cookie:
I don't believe everything that Peter Hyatt writes on his blog.
I do believe though that we often speak from the heart,
from our "inner" vocabulary.

I do not doubt what Shawn stated about Hailey being
a promiscuous teen, etc. were said because of the
horrible things he forced on her.

Billie's comment about having another vigil at the 6 mo. mark,
now that ranks right up there for me ! Sicko ! ::MonkeyMad::

ITA - I have already expressed a lengthy opinion on the linguistic postmortem that is performed in that blog.  While I believe in some body language credibility, I don't think you can cut and parcel out words, especially from those who are usually both illiterate and under stress, and make factual assertions based on a misplaced modifier or an inappropriate pronoun case. 

BJD, has, however, said and done plenty enough for me to believe that she, on some level, bears culpability in her daughter's, now officially acknowledged, death.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 30, 2011, 10:28:35 AM
I don't recall seeing this before:

Quote
The affidavit notes that some pornographic images were retrieved from the memory stick and cell phone owned by Adkins were made with a Kodak Easy Share camera.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353726

So not all of the images were from other sources, some were Shawn-grown  ::MonkeyMad::

Thanks Flutter.


Has the actual document been posted online?

Janet

Janet,

Here is the link.  It is on page three.

http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf (http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf)

Thanks Flutter

Janet
7:30 PM PT


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 30, 2011, 10:47:17 AM
EXCLUSIVE: Officials Believe Hailey Dunn Is Dead; Reward Now For Her Whereabouts


ABILENE, Texas -- Officials close to the case now believe missing Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn is dead.

City Manager Pete Kampfer will confirm this revelation at a news conference Wednesday at noon in Colorado City with new information in the Hailey Dunn investigation. ::snipping2::


http://www.ktxs.com/news/27368552/detail.html

When it was revealed that Hailey Dunn's shoes and jacket were found in her room ... it made sense to me that on the morning of December 27th ... immediately following Billie departure to work ...  Shawn returned to the home to quickly retrieve a deceased Hailey from her bed and disposed of her body prior to arriving at his mother's home in Big Spring.

Janet

++++++


It was Cold Outside

Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
By Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 2:17 pm CST January 12, 2011


<snipped>

Law enforcement officials detailed what Hailey left behind at her home: cash, a toothbrush, hairbrush, contact solution, a new MP3 player – and a jacket that friends say she would not have left home without.

The weather was cold outside, but Adkins said he last saw Hailey leaving without the jacket and the personal items.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


Tennis Shoes Found

Efforts continue to find Hailey Dunn
Posted January 5, 2011 - 10:43am


<snipped>

“She didn’t take any shoes or boots,” Dunn said. Originally, she thought Hailey was wearing tennis shoes but discovered them in her daughter’s room. “It was cold and she was wearing flip flops. It’s what scares me the most.”

<snipped>

http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/2011/01/efforts-continue-find-hailey-dunn


Updated AMW Missing Persons Alert

AMW Case

Hailey Darlene Dunn

<snipped>

Police say Hailey Darlene Dunn is a student and cheerleader at Colorado City Middle School. They say the 13-year-old girl was last seen wearing navy blue sweatpants, a short-sleeved light-colored T-shirt, flip flops and red hoop earrings. They say Hailey’s upper left ear is also pierced, and she stands at 5 feet 1 inch tall and weighs around 120 pounds. She has hazel eyes and light brown hair with blond highlights.

<snipped>

http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=76136


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 30, 2011, 10:49:41 AM

I cannot comprehend why an official flyer was not distributed early on by investigators ... an official flyer with a photo of Shawn and the vehicle that Shawn was driving on the morning of December 27th as well as identifying the area indicated by the cell phone pings.  Could there have been at lease one witness to a disposal of a body .... at least one witness who did not realize at the time what he/she was observing.

Think about the Kyron Horman case and ... Terri Horman has yet to be officially declared a person of interest.

Janet

+++++

Kyron Horman Case

Police hope stepmom's photo will help spark more tips for Kyron Horman investigation
Published: Friday, June 18, 2010, 5:25 PM
Updated: Monday, June 21, 2010, 10:15 AM


Kyron Horman's stepmother was the last known person to see the 7-year-old on the day that he disappeared, said Capt. Jason Gates, and authorities hope her photo might help jog the memories of other witnesses.

The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office is distributing a flier showing photos of Terri Moulton Horman and the type of pickup she is thought to have driven on June 4, the day the second-grader disappeared from Skyline School.

"Sometimes in jogging peoples memories, sometimes it's the other things about that day or what was going on around them that will jog their memory with anything else they might have seen with regard to Kyron," Gates said.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/police_issue_questionnaire_ask.html


New flier asks residents if they saw Horman, Spicher
Story Published: Aug 10, 2010 at 3:20 PM PST
Story Updated: Aug 10, 2010 at 10:15 PM PST


PORTLAND, Ore. - Investigators working on the Kyron Horman case released a new flier Tuesday that asks residents near Kyron's elementary school if they saw his stepmother, Terri Horman, and her close friend, DeDe Spicher the day he disappeared.

The two-page flier includes pictures of Horman, Spicher and the white pickup truck Horman was driving on June 4 the day Kyron vanished, and in it police ask residents if they saw the two or the pickup between the hours of 9:45 a.m. and 1 p.m. that day.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100392859.html



BUMPED


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 30, 2011, 10:54:58 AM

TAMIKOSMOM'S THEORY

The Disappearing of Hailey


December 26, 2010 - PM
- David observes Hailey on xbox prior to leaving the home.
- Billie later observes Hailey watching TV in bed.

December 27, 2010 - AM
- Billie is sleeping/passed out
- Shawn sexually assaults Hailey in her bed.
- Shawn kills Hailey to assure silence.
- Shawn covers Hailey with blanket and leaves room.

December 27, 2010 - AM
- Shawn leaves home.
- Shawn arrives at work.
- Co-worker picks up Billie.
- Shawn leaves workplace.
- Shawn returns home following Billie's departure.
- Shawn retrieves deceased Hailey from bed.
- Shawn disposes of Hailey's remains.
- Shawn arrives at mother's home in Big Springs.

December 27, 2010 - PM
- Shawn sends text to Mary Beth implicating Hailey as author.
- Shawn returns home.
- Shawn encounters David.
- Shawn picks up Billie from work.
- Shawn tells Billie that Hailey is spending night at Mary Beth.

+++++++

Ockham's Razor

You must never fail to adopt the simplest idea as your working hypothesis. If necessity demands, you can dump it later when you have more dataTamikosmom's Theory



BUMPED


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 30, 2011, 11:05:30 AM
My theory is subject to change if it is revealed that the 2:00 PM text originated ub the area of Billie's workplace.  The implication would be that Billie knew the Hailey was deceased prior to leaving the home on the morning of December 27th and took her cell phone with her.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 30, 2011, 11:39:24 AM
Officials Believe Hailey Dunn Is Dead; Reward Now Focused On Her Whereabouts

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27368552/detail.html
 ::snipping2::
ABILENE, Texas -- Officials close to the case now believe missing Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn is dead.

City Manager Pete Kampfer will confirm this revelation at a news conference Wednesday at 11 a.m. in Colorado City with new information in the Hailey Dunn investigation.

Hailey Dunn, a 13-year-old eighth-grader, has been missing since Dec. 27.

Kampfer has told KTXS News that officials have reasons to believe that Hailey Dunn is deceased. He said they couldn't say what those reasons were because this an on-going investigation.

He also told KTXS officials plan to announce at the news conference that stipulations for the reward money have now changed, with emphasis on finding the whereabouts of Hailey – as opposed to previous stipulations based on her safe return or a successful prosecution. ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 30, 2011, 11:40:40 AM
I saw this linked on topix today and thought it was odd.  The following is only an excerpt; the message in its entirety, including a statement concerning its transcription, can be found at the link provided.

Excerpt:
"As the search for missing C City teen Hailey Dunn continues, law enforcement officials are urging volunteers and search teams to use extra caution.
Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs told KBST today that, although volunteers are appreciated, the law still has to be followed throughout the investigation.
Rumors of non-authorized searches on private property, damage to private property, and personal friendships with any suspect or person of interest will be taken seriously.
Anyone who breaks the law during a volunteer search for Hailey Dunn can and will face criminal charges."

Link:  http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/03/28/hailey-dunn-transcript-law-enforcement-announcement-to-searchers-kbst-am-1490-radio-march-24-2011/

I find this odd too. My guess is that there are sleuths in the area who are taking matters into their own hands with regards to searches and such. I also wonder if they are warning those close to the suspects that if they try to cover up evidence they will be prosecuted? It is definately a veiled threat aimed directly at someone or some persons. I just hope that it means that they are really close to something and they are putting their ducks in a row.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 30, 2011, 11:41:35 AM
Let's summarize now for a sec~
David Dunn's Dad/drugs
Shawn Adkins/ drugs

Did Billie date ANYbody who was straight ?

Clint Dunn

Hailey Dunn: Unfolding a story of a missing teenager and her family
By Brian Bethel
Published Saturday, January 8, 2011


<snipped>

A search of website publicdata.com reveals no criminal histories for Billie Jean Dunn or for Shawn Adkins. Clint Dunn, however, has multiple arrests, starting in 1994 for burglary of a building, a state jail felony. Following that are subsequent arrests in 1998 for possession of marijuana, under 2 ounces, one in March 1999 for driving with a suspended license.

He was arrested again Jan. 30, 2010, by Snyder police for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces. And he was arrested at his home Dec. 29, again for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces, and a Scurry County warrant.

<snipped>

http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/08/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/?partner=RSS


December 31, 2009 - Clint Dunn and Brian Glasco - Getting High

http://www.myspace.com/freaker13/videos


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 30, 2011, 11:49:48 AM
I saw this linked on topix today and thought it was odd.  The following is only an excerpt; the message in its entirety, including a statement concerning its transcription, can be found at the link provided.

Excerpt:
"As the search for missing C City teen Hailey Dunn continues, law enforcement officials are urging volunteers and search teams to use extra caution.
Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs told KBST today that, although volunteers are appreciated, the law still has to be followed throughout the investigation.
Rumors of non-authorized searches on private property, damage to private property, and personal friendships with any suspect or person of interest will be taken seriously.
Anyone who breaks the law during a volunteer search for Hailey Dunn can and will face criminal charges."

Link:  http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/03/28/hailey-dunn-transcript-law-enforcement-announcement-to-searchers-kbst-am-1490-radio-march-24-2011/

Could it that investigators realized that after this morning's press conference ... searchers will be everywhere.

Janet

++++

Officials Believe Hailey Dunn Is Dead; Reward Now Focused On Her Whereabouts
By Laura Labay, KTXS News
POSTED: 7:20 am CDT March 30, 2011
UPDATED: 9:10 am CDT March 30, 2011


<snipped>

"Previously the reward reflected statements, aspects related to successful prosecution and or returning Hailey in good order," Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer said. "We delineated that and said anything leading to her whereabouts."

The reward, currently at $15,000, will be for any information gained anonymously, first- or second-hand, that leads to Hailey's whereabouts, Kampfer said.

"It's time now to put this thing into context and hopefully come up with some information as a result of changing the reward," Kampfer said.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27368552/detail.html



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 30, 2011, 11:50:36 AM
EXCLUSIVE: Officials Believe Hailey Dunn Is Dead; Reward Now For Her Whereabouts


ABILENE, Texas -- Officials close to the case now believe missing Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn is dead.

City Manager Pete Kampfer will confirm this revelation at a news conference Wednesday at noon in Colorado City with new information in the Hailey Dunn investigation. ::snipping2::


http://www.ktxs.com/news/27368552/detail.html

This completely breaks my heart. I will still hold out hope for a live Hailey, but sad to say that my hope is fading.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Sister on March 30, 2011, 11:56:54 AM
EXCLUSIVE: Officials Believe Hailey Dunn Is Dead; Reward Now For Her Whereabouts


ABILENE, Texas -- Officials close to the case now believe missing Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn is dead.

City Manager Pete Kampfer will confirm this revelation at a news conference Wednesday at noon in Colorado City with new information in the Hailey Dunn investigation. ::snipping2::


http://www.ktxs.com/news/27368552/detail.html

This completely breaks my heart. I will still hold out hope for a live Hailey, but sad to say that my hope is fading.
Sebastian, I believe in hope . . . but I truly do not think this precious child is alive.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 30, 2011, 11:57:34 AM
Now Pete, the Colorado City manager is re-canting what he said about Hailey being deceased.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356576


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 30, 2011, 12:00:23 PM
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ktab-news

pk is up,on air and dosent know it


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 30, 2011, 12:00:23 PM

LIVE NOW: Hailey Dunn Case News Conference

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356776


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 30, 2011, 12:00:39 PM
EXCLUSIVE: Officials Believe Hailey Dunn Is Dead; Reward Now For Her Whereabouts


ABILENE, Texas -- Officials close to the case now believe missing Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn is dead.

City Manager Pete Kampfer will confirm this revelation at a news conference Wednesday at noon in Colorado City with new information in the Hailey Dunn investigation. ::snipping2::


http://www.ktxs.com/news/27368552/detail.html

This completely breaks my heart. I will still hold out hope for a live Hailey, but sad to say that my hope is fading.
Sebastian, I believe in hope . . . but I truly do not think this precious child is alive.

Hi Sister!
It has been a long time! How the heck are you? I hear you, but I am a diehard when it comes to holding out hope. It boggles the mind how anyone could do harm to an angel.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 30, 2011, 12:12:37 PM

Sometimes these PC's are almost painful to watch.  Not only because of poor Hailey...but watching the City Manager try and publicly speak.  Ugh. 

...maybe.... probably..... there is a possibility.... there is a chance....  could be...


Did we really need a PC to simply change the 'goal' of the reward money? 



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 30, 2011, 12:19:36 PM

I wonder if it makes LE uncomfortable that he keeps changing who/what his opinions represent.  In a matter of a few sentences stating his opinion, I've heard him state he is speaking for the City...then personally because he was prior LE...then as a parent only.  Which is it man?!




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Sister on March 30, 2011, 12:24:57 PM
EXCLUSIVE: Officials Believe Hailey Dunn Is Dead; Reward Now For Her Whereabouts


ABILENE, Texas -- Officials close to the case now believe missing Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn is dead.

City Manager Pete Kampfer will confirm this revelation at a news conference Wednesday at noon in Colorado City with new information in the Hailey Dunn investigation. ::snipping2::


http://www.ktxs.com/news/27368552/detail.html

This completely breaks my heart. I will still hold out hope for a live Hailey, but sad to say that my hope is fading.
Sebastian, I believe in hope . . . but I truly do not think this precious child is alive.

Hi Sister!
It has been a long time! How the heck are you? I hear you, but I am a diehard when it comes to holding out hope. It boggles the mind how anyone could do harm to an angel.
Hi Sebastian,
 ::HelloKitty::
I know about holding out hope because it does not compute at all about harming anyone, especially a child (or the elderly).  But I am a realist also . . . I pray I am so very wrong.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 30, 2011, 12:26:10 PM

I wonder if it makes LE uncomfortable that he keeps changing who/what his opinions represent.  In a matter of a few sentences stating his opinion, I've heard him state he is speaking for the City...then personally because he was prior LE...then as a parent only.  Which is it man?!




I agree.

The public wants updates on the what is going on within the Hailey Dunn investigation ... not Pete Kampfer's opinions.

Thank you for the link to the press conference wildmala.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 30, 2011, 12:26:47 PM
The reward for information leading to Hailey's whereabouts currently sits at $15,500.

LE has changed the status to deceased,so someone might talk for the reward money
verses b4 when the reward was for a live hailey whereabouts,

im not sure that will work time will tell


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 30, 2011, 12:27:30 PM

Did I hear him right?  Did he say something to the effect of: I would like to see this case escalate and be put to bed so I can get on with being a City Manager.


...sorry Mister...that this missing child is interfering in your life/work...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 30, 2011, 12:32:18 PM
a reporter is still talking tp pk now
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ktab-news


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 30, 2011, 12:39:39 PM

Did I hear him right?  Did he say something to the effect of: I would like to see this case escalate and be put to bed so I can get on with being a City Manager.


...sorry Mister...that this missing child is interfering in your life/work...

You hit the nail on the head Wildmala! This has what has ALWAYS bugged me about this case. He was just stupid enough to say it out loud!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 30, 2011, 12:41:31 PM
a reporter is still talking tp pk now
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ktab-news

the reporter was trying to clarify, the deceased status,pk said it was to try and generate more leads
he dosent know for sure if hailey is deceased, but giving the dynamics and history of fam,its likely possible
that is pk opinion,im sure that short interview will air


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 30, 2011, 12:42:51 PM
doing somrthing again
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ktab-news


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 30, 2011, 12:48:58 PM
doing somrthing again
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ktab-news

pk is back


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 30, 2011, 12:58:36 PM
in case you missed the 2 additional interveiws with pk,he just said the same thing
about the deseased stautus to generate leads,and uping the reward to 15,500
im hoping they talk to hailey fam,as the reporter said they were outside and upset
over the status change


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 30, 2011, 01:03:37 PM
in case you missed the 2 additional interveiws with pk,he just said the same thing
about the deseased stautus to generate leads,and uping the reward to 15,500
im hoping they talk to hailey fam,as the reporter said they were outside and upset
over the status change

Sorry but Pete cannot have it both ways. In the beginning, when he did not think that the mics were on, he was saying to keep the family out of there because he did not want interruptions. Now he says that they hope they talk to Hailey's family. This guy is too much!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 30, 2011, 01:05:12 PM
Pete, the city manager has loose lips. Why couldn't there have been


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 30, 2011, 01:07:00 PM
sorry, hit return. Why couldn't there have been ONE reporter who had asked the right questions? I have no doubt that Pete would have answered. He loves all of this attention and is not capable of keeping his gums from flapping. There is apparently 15 minutes of airtime in the beginning of the presser when he did not know that the mics were on. It is priceless air time!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 30, 2011, 01:17:59 PM
in case you missed the 2 additional interveiws with pk,he just said the same thing
about the deseased stautus to generate leads,and uping the reward to 15,500
im hoping they talk to hailey fam,as the reporter said they were outside and upset
over the status change

Did LE/PK not take the time to let the family know ahead of time what they would be announcing during the presser????  So, they were left out to listen with the crowd taking the tidbits of what they COULD hear and starting rumors of what was being said in the presser (like Hailey was found dead, etc).  Wow...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 30, 2011, 01:24:18 PM
in case you missed the 2 additional interveiws with pk,he just said the same thing
about the deseased stautus to generate leads,and uping the reward to 15,500
im hoping they talk to hailey fam,as the reporter said they were outside and upset
over the status change

Did LE/PK not take the time to let the family know ahead of time what they would be announcing during the presser????  So, they were left out to listen with the crowd taking the tidbits of what they COULD hear and starting rumors of what was being said in the presser (like Hailey was found dead, etc).  Wow...

This family is disfunctional and we all know the rest. It just sickens me the way that they are doing things there in Colorado City. The family is poor, has a criminal history and the list goes on and on. But there are members of that disfunctional family that love Hailey.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 30, 2011, 01:28:15 PM
For anyone that has some extra time on their hands, they may want to randomly call locals in Colorado City and ask them what they think of the local LE.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 30, 2011, 01:34:51 PM
Quote
Sorry but Pete cannot have it both ways. In the beginning, when he did not think that the mics were on, he was saying to keep the family out of there because he did not want interruptions. Now he says that they hope they talk to Hailey's family. This guy is too much!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9552.msg1321689#msg1321689

must have missed that when the phone rang,geeze pk the _____  fill in what ever
you deem appropriate


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 30, 2011, 02:01:58 PM
found the 2nd and 3rd,havent found the 1st interveiw yet

2nd
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356776
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/find-hailey-dunn
3rd
http://www.justin.tv/ktabstream/b/282634213


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 30, 2011, 02:19:36 PM
Quote
Sorry but Pete cannot have it both ways. In the beginning, when he did not think that the mics were on, he was saying to keep the family out of there because he did not want interruptions. Now he says that they hope they talk to Hailey's family. This guy is too much!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9552.msg1321689#msg1321689

must have missed that when the phone rang,geeze pk the _____  fill in what ever
you deem appropriate

The mics were on for quite a long time before Pete realized it. I wonder if there is anyway that we can retrieve that time frame in the very beginning?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 30, 2011, 02:29:43 PM
What a freaking jerk!!  Oh, he wants his "life back" - but what about Hailey's life - likely she won't have that chance!!

"I hope the case is put to rest soon so I can get on with my life as being City Manager, Kampfer said. "
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356776


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 30, 2011, 02:41:37 PM
You know, I've had it.  I actually emailed their chief of police today about this idiot, Kampfer.  I know they're busy, but SURELY they can take two hours out to prepare a statement and read it themselves rather than having this absolute brain-dead guy talk for them.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 30, 2011, 02:59:13 PM
My theory is subject to change if it is revealed that the 2:00 PM text originated ub the area of Billie's workplace.  The implication would be that Billie knew the Hailey was deceased prior to leaving the home on the morning of December 27th and took her cell phone with her.

Janet

Interesting, but didn't David use the cell later that day to call BJD?  I sure wish we had better information on the cellphone records.   ::rhino::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 30, 2011, 03:06:14 PM
In one word ... "UNPROFESSIONAL"

A statement could have been provided to the official spokesperson to read ... a statement that clearly defined the updates in the Hailey Dunn case that the task force was willing to reveal.

The mixed messages received from today's press conference implies that investigators are far from putting together a case against Shawn Adkins.

Janet

++++++



The other day I email the City Manager Peter Kampfer requesting that he clarify his role with the Hailey Dunn task force.

I received the following response today.

Janet

++++++

Janet,

Mr. Kampfer is the liason person between the task force and the news media. Along with Sheriff Patrick Toombs and Chief John Bivins, he is in the loop as far as what's being released from the task force.

Carol Parsons



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 30, 2011, 03:10:24 PM
My theory is subject to change if it is revealed that the 2:00 PM text originated ub the area of Billie's workplace.  The implication would be that Billie knew the Hailey was deceased prior to leaving the home on the morning of December 27th and took her cell phone with her.

Janet

Interesting, but didn't David use the cell later that day to call BJD?  I sure wish we had better information on the cellphone records.   ::rhino::

I do not think that David returned home until 4:00 PM the afternoon of December 27th ... one hour following Shawn's return.

David used Billie's cell on December 28th when Billie called him from her workplace at about noon and instructed him to text Mary Beth and let her know that Hailey was to come home.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on March 30, 2011, 03:12:19 PM
In one word ... "UNPROFESSIONAL"

A statement could have been provided to the official spokesperson to read ... a statement that clearly defined the updates in the Hailey Dunn case that the task force was willing to reveal.

The mixed messages received from today's press conference implies that investigators are far from putting together a case against Shawn Adkins.

Janet

++++++



The other day I email the City Manager Peter Kampfer requesting that he clarify his role with the Hailey Dunn task force.

I received the following response today.

Janet

++++++

Janet,

Mr. Kampfer is the liason person between the task force and the news media. Along with Sheriff Patrick Toombs and Chief John Bivins, he is in the loop as far as what's being released from the task force.

Carol Parsons


LOL - the only "loop" PK is in is the tie around the his neck which supports the hamster ball he calls his brain.   ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 30, 2011, 03:14:02 PM
What a freaking jerk!!  Oh, he wants his "life back" - but what about Hailey's life - likely she won't have that chance!!

"I hope the case is put to rest soon so I can get on with my life as being City Manager, Kampfer said. "
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356776

 :2brickwall:


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 30, 2011, 03:27:28 PM
Officials Believe Hailey Dunn Is Dead; Reward Now Focused On Her Whereabouts

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27368552/detail.html
 ::snipping2::
ABILENE, Texas -- Officials close to the case now believe missing Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn is dead.

City Manager Pete Kampfer will confirm this revelation at a news conference Wednesday at 11 a.m. in Colorado City with new information in the Hailey Dunn investigation.

Hailey Dunn, a 13-year-old eighth-grader, has been missing since Dec. 27.

Kampfer has told KTXS News that officials have reasons to believe that Hailey Dunn is deceased. He said they couldn't say what those reasons were because this an on-going investigation.

He also told KTXS officials plan to announce at the news conference that stipulations for the reward money have now changed, with emphasis on finding the whereabouts of Hailey – as opposed to previous stipulations based on her safe return or a successful prosecution. ::snipping2::

It was not a one on one but ... it appears the contents of today's press conference came as no surprise to the family.  Peter Kampfer forwarned the media last night.

Also ... Shawn's lies and deceptions encompassing his actions and whereabouts on the morning of December 27th that were revealed in released affidavit should have given the family a clue where the investigation was headed.

Janet

+++++++


Officials Believe Hailey Dunn Is Dead; Reward Now Focused On Her Whereabouts
By Laura Labay, KTXS News
POSTED: 7:20 am CDT March 30, 2011
UPDATED: 9:10 am CDT March 30, 2011


Kampfer also said, "While there are multiple persons of interest in this criminal investigation, there still remains only one named suspect: Shawn Adkins."

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27368552/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on March 30, 2011, 03:27:30 PM

Yes, I agree he is completely unprofessional.  He has been every time he opens his mouth to give the world his "updates".

During the intereview he was asked how high they would be willing to go in regards to the reward money and he responded possibly even 'six figures'.  As much as that would be awesome in this case to get it resolved.... YA RIGHT!!!!!  He had a hard enough time scraping up the initial $10K.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 30, 2011, 03:31:41 PM


 ::HelloKitty::

Hi Magic Eyes

Whatcha think?

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 30, 2011, 03:47:17 PM
Video:  Questions and Answers

Hailey Dunn "Most Likely Deceased," Officials Say
Wednesday, March 30 2011


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356776


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on March 30, 2011, 03:56:46 PM

Yes, I agree he is completely unprofessional.  He has been every time he opens his mouth to give the world his "updates".

During the intereview he was asked how high they would be willing to go in regards to the reward money and he responded possibly even 'six figures'.  As much as that would be awesome in this case to get it resolved.... YA RIGHT!!!!!  He had a hard enough time scraping up the initial $10K.

That was such a stupid statement! So what, are all of the druggies running rampant in that town going to sit around and wait to divulge information? Are they going to stay mum until the reward gets high enough? He needs to step away from this case.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 30, 2011, 03:58:50 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Kampfer Clarifies Hailey Dunn Statements, Admits Death 'Not Conclusive'
By Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 12:38 pm CDT March 30, 2011
UPDATED: 1:26 pm CDT March 30, 2011


COLORADO CITY, Texas -- City Manager Pete Kampfer on Tuesday told KTXS News – specifically for the first time – that law enforcement officials have reasons to believe that missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn is deceased.

Amid questions and protests from relatives of the missing 13-year-old, Kampfer clarified his statements Wednesday, saying his comments about Hailey being deceased were not intended to be interpreted as “conclusive.”

He said his statement that officials “have reasons to believe that Hailey is deceased” was meant to convey the same approach law enforcement has had for more than two months: The case is considered a criminal investigation – not a runaway teenager.

Nevertheless, the wording Kampfer used on Tuesday in statements to KTXS News was the first on-the-record public statement specifically acknowledging that officials believed Hailey was deceased. When asked by a KTXS reporter, he twice repeated the statement that officials “have reasons to believe that Hailey is deceased.”

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/27372485/detail.html



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 30, 2011, 04:05:58 PM
::MonkeyNoNo::

Kampfer Clarifies Hailey Dunn Statements, Admits Death 'Not Conclusive'
By Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 12:38 pm CDT March 30, 2011
UPDATED: 1:26 pm CDT March 30, 2011


COLORADO CITY, Texas -- City Manager Pete Kampfer on Tuesday told KTXS News – specifically for the first time – that law enforcement officials have reasons to believe that missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn is deceased.

Amid questions and protests from relatives of the missing 13-year-old, Kampfer clarified his statements Wednesday, saying his comments about Hailey being deceased were not intended to be interpreted as “conclusive.”

He said his statement that officials “have reasons to believe that Hailey is deceased” was meant to convey the same approach law enforcement has had for more than two months: The case is considered a criminal investigation – not a runaway teenager.

Nevertheless, the wording Kampfer used on Tuesday in statements to KTXS News was the first on-the-record public statement specifically acknowledging that officials believed Hailey was deceased. When asked by a KTXS reporter, he twice repeated the statement that officials “have reasons to believe that Hailey is deceased.”
<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/27372485/detail.html



Prior to the press conference ....

Janet

+++++++


Officials Believe Hailey Dunn Is Dead; Reward Now Focused On Her Whereabouts
By Laura Labay, KTXS News
POSTED: 7:20 am CDT March 30, 2011
UPDATED: 9:10 am CDT March 30, 2011


ABILENE, Texas -- Officials close to the case now believe missing Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn is dead.

City Manager Pete Kampfer will confirm this revelation at a news conference Wednesday at 11 a.m. in Colorado City with new information in the Hailey Dunn investigation.

Hailey Dunn, a 13-year-old eighth-grader, has been missing since Dec. 27.

Kampfer has told KTXS News that officials have reasons to believe that Hailey Dunn is deceased. He said they couldn't say what those reasons were because this an on-going investigation.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/27368552/detail.html





Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 30, 2011, 04:43:13 PM
Re: Summer Inman, 25. Logan Ohio, kidnapped 3/22/11(Body Found)

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9655.new#new

+++++++


Body of Missing Ohio Mother Found Inside Septic System
Published March 30, 2011


A suspect in the disappearance of a 25-year-old Ohio mother has led authorities to her body, police said Wednesday.

The mother-in-law of Summer Inman led investigators to the young woman's body, located in a septic system behind a church in Athens County, Ohio, Fox8.com reports.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/03/30/body-missing-ohio-mother-inside-septic/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 30, 2011, 06:35:17 PM
Re: Summer Inman, 25. Logan Ohio, kidnapped 3/22/11(Body Found)

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9655.new#new

+++++++


Body of Missing Ohio Mother Found Inside Septic System
Published March 30, 2011


A suspect in the disappearance of a 25-year-old Ohio mother has led authorities to her body, police said Wednesday.

The mother-in-law of Summer Inman led investigators to the young woman's body, located in a septic system behind a church in Athens County, Ohio, Fox8.com reports.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/03/30/body-missing-ohio-mother-inside-septic/


Someone stop this ride - I want off. :(  Wow, people are horrible.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 30, 2011, 07:33:20 PM
Has there been any media report ... Facebook comment ... regarding who the family members were who showed up at today's so-called news conference.

Thanks

Janet

++++++

Kampfer Clarifies Hailey Dunn Statements, Admits Death 'Not Conclusive'
By Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 12:38 pm CDT March 30, 2011
UPDATED: 1:26 pm CDT March 30, 2011


COLORADO CITY, Texas -- City Manager Pete Kampfer on Tuesday told KTXS News – specifically for the first time – that law enforcement officials have reasons to believe that missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn is deceased.

Amid questions and protests from relatives of the missing 13-year-old, Kampfer clarified his statements Wednesday, saying his comments about Hailey being deceased were not intended to be interpreted as “conclusive.”

He said his statement that officials “have reasons to believe that Hailey is deceased” was meant to convey the same approach law enforcement has had for more than two months: The case is considered a criminal investigation – not a runaway teenager.

Nevertheless, the wording Kampfer used on Tuesday in statements to KTXS News was the first on-the-record public statement specifically acknowledging that officials believed Hailey was deceased. When asked by a KTXS reporter, he twice repeated the statement that officials “have reasons to believe that Hailey is deceased.”

The reporting of this news Wednesday morning was understandably disturbing to family members of Hailey Dunn, who have been holding onto hope that Hailey might yet be found and safely returned. The family members showed up to ask what new information prompted the statements and to protest that they need to cling to the hope that Hailey might be returned safely.

Kampfer acknowledged there was no specific breaking news Wednesday morning. Kampfer said that his statement was not intended to be interpreted as an absolute conclusion.

Kampfer said he met with the family members Wednesday to explain to them what law enforcement authorities believe to be true concerning Hailey. However, he pointed out that nothing is confirmed.

He said he told the family members that Hailey could have been kidnapped and could be held under duress – “but it’s not likely,” he said.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/27372485/detail.html




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 30, 2011, 07:45:17 PM
What concerns me is that the Task Force investigating the disappearance of Hailey Dunn has chosen Pete Kampfer as the liason between them and the media/public YET ... there is not one Monkey on this forum that has not recognized since the getgo that Kampfer does not possess the professional skills to perform this task.

What does this say about the Task Force that has been entrusted with the responsibility to put together a case that will ensure that justice prevails for Hailey Dunn?

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Sister on March 30, 2011, 08:55:39 PM
You know, I've had it.  I actually emailed their chief of police today about this idiot, Kampfer.  I know they're busy, but SURELY they can take two hours out to prepare a statement and read it themselves rather than having this absolute brain-dead guy talk for them.
I agree with you Starwynn.  Thank you for taking the time to e-mail LE.
o/t Thomas Leggs has pled guilty to murdering Sarah Foxwell and has gotten life without parole, etc.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Sister on March 30, 2011, 08:57:54 PM
You know, I've had it.  I actually emailed their chief of police today about this idiot, Kampfer.  I know they're busy, but SURELY they can take two hours out to prepare a statement and read it themselves rather than having this absolute brain-dead guy talk for them.
I agree with you Starwynn.  Thank you for taking the time to e-mail LE.
o/t Thomas Leggs has pled guilty to murdering Sarah Foxwell and has gotten life without parole, etc.

sorry, forgot the link to Sarah.
http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20110329/NEWS/110329021/Leggs-pleads-guilty-murder-Sarah-Foxwell-avoids-death-penalty


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cookie on March 30, 2011, 09:20:34 PM
You know, I've had it.  I actually emailed their chief of police today about this idiot, Kampfer.  I know they're busy, but SURELY they can take two hours out to prepare a statement and read it themselves rather than having this absolute brain-dead guy talk for them.

good for you Starwynn!
that guy is totally an idiot!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 30, 2011, 09:36:41 PM
Has there been any media report ... Facebook comment ... regarding who the family members were who showed up at today's so-called news conference.

Thanks

Janet

++++++

Kampfer Clarifies Hailey Dunn Statements, Admits Death 'Not Conclusive'
By Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 12:38 pm CDT March 30, 2011
UPDATED: 1:26 pm CDT March 30, 2011


COLORADO CITY, Texas -- City Manager Pete Kampfer on Tuesday told KTXS News – specifically for the first time – that law enforcement officials have reasons to believe that missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn is deceased.

Amid questions and protests from relatives of the missing 13-year-old, Kampfer clarified his statements Wednesday, saying his comments about Hailey being deceased were not intended to be interpreted as “conclusive.”

He said his statement that officials “have reasons to believe that Hailey is deceased” was meant to convey the same approach law enforcement has had for more than two months: The case is considered a criminal investigation – not a runaway teenager.

Nevertheless, the wording Kampfer used on Tuesday in statements to KTXS News was the first on-the-record public statement specifically acknowledging that officials believed Hailey was deceased. When asked by a KTXS reporter, he twice repeated the statement that officials “have reasons to believe that Hailey is deceased.”

The reporting of this news Wednesday morning was understandably disturbing to family members of Hailey Dunn, who have been holding onto hope that Hailey might yet be found and safely returned. The family members showed up to ask what new information prompted the statements and to protest that they need to cling to the hope that Hailey might be returned safely.

Kampfer acknowledged there was no specific breaking news Wednesday morning. Kampfer said that his statement was not intended to be interpreted as an absolute conclusion.

Kampfer said he met with the family members Wednesday to explain to them what law enforcement authorities believe to be true concerning Hailey. However, he pointed out that nothing is confirmed.

He said he told the family members that Hailey could have been kidnapped and could be held under duress – “but it’s not likely,” he said.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/27372485/detail.html







...I see! Attention hogs? I am pretty sure they labeled Patricia T as Hailey's grandmother and the other woman was a Salzar, she was labeled as Hailey's aunt.
about an hour ago · LikeUnlike · 2 people

...Hailey Dunn Open Discussion     Exactly thats who Mechele. (MM)
about an hour ago · LikeUnlike

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905#!/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Open-Discussion/189599337718905


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 30, 2011, 10:57:23 PM
http://www.kwes.com/Global/story.asp?S=14353616

Colorado City Manager Discusses Statements About Hailey Dunn
By Anayeli Ruiz
NewsWest 9

COLORADO CITY - A press conference was held Wednesday in Colorado City involving missing teen Hailey Dunn. It was part informational and part damage control. The city manager backed off statements he made Tuesday that missing 13-year-old Hailey Dunn was dead.

 ::snipping2::

Meanwhile, members of Hailey's family were waiting outside visibly angry and demanding answers.

"Tell us whats going on. If your going to sit there and say there might be a possibility, give us a reason. If not a reason, stop it. This is killing us. We don't know what is going on they wont tell us anything. They're not releasing any information even to the family. We come over here for the press conference they wouldn't even let us in," said Melinda Salazar, Hailey's Aunt.

Family members were able to talk to Kampfer, but they would not share with us what they talked about. They did say they are not giving hope.

"The search is not over until she is home one way or the other. We want her home. We want her alive, but we are not stopping until we find her. Period," Salazar said.

We tried talking to Billie Dunn, Hailey's mother, but she would not talk on camera because her lawyer has told her not to. She did tell NewsWest9 that she was not notified of any new developments and she doesn't believe her daughter is dead.

 ::snipping2::




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 30, 2011, 11:08:04 PM
http://www.kwes.com/Global/story.asp?S=14353616

Colorado City Manager Discusses Statements About Hailey Dunn
By Anayeli Ruiz
NewsWest 9

COLORADO CITY - A press conference was held Wednesday in Colorado City involving missing teen Hailey Dunn. It was part informational and part damage control. The city manager backed off statements he made Tuesday that missing 13-year-old Hailey Dunn was dead.

 ::snipping2::

Meanwhile, members of Hailey's family were waiting outside visibly angry and demanding answers.

"Tell us whats going on. If your going to sit there and say there might be a possibility, give us a reason. If not a reason, stop it. This is killing us. We don't know what is going on they wont tell us anything. They're not releasing any information even to the family. We come over here for the press conference they wouldn't even let us in," said Melinda Salazar, Hailey's Aunt.

Family members were able to talk to Kampfer, but they would not share with us what they talked about. They did say they are not giving hope.

"The search is not over until she is home one way or the other. We want her home. We want her alive, but we are not stopping until we find her. Period," Salazar said.

We tried talking to Billie Dunn, Hailey's mother, but she would not talk on camera because her lawyer has told her not to. She did tell NewsWest9 that she was not notified of any new developments and she doesn't believe her daughter is dead.

 ::snipping2::




Why didn't they just ask CD; didn't he meet with t hem the day before?  Sheesh.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Thunder_Sis on March 30, 2011, 11:41:08 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356876


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 31, 2011, 12:25:34 AM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356876

It's just silly to me.  They're family - why didn't they just try to get in touch with Clint or Billie?  Search the internet all morning to see if your niece is dead instead of just asking her parents?  Really? 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on March 31, 2011, 04:19:02 AM
I am still going back through all of the old threads. I just found something out. Before my head completely spins out of control, has any monkey been able to verify David Dunn's real father's name? Has his sex offender and criminal record been posted on here? TIA

David Dunn's Birth Certificate

Klaasen
Re: Hailey Dunn #4 1/22/11 -
« Reply #649 on: January 27, 2011, 12:19:32 AM »


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9336.msg1295884


David Gloria - David Dunn's Birth Father

cartfly
Re: Hailey Dunn #7 2/11/11 -
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2011, 02:34:34 AM »


http://168.51.178.33/webapp/TDCJ/InmateDetails.jsp?sidnumber=05955382

SID Number:    05955382
TDCJ Number:    01683464
Name:    GLORIA,DAVID
Race:    H
Sex:    M
Age:    31
Maximum Sentence Date:    2013-09-27       
Current Facility:    GARZA EAST
Projected Release Date:    2012-02-15
Parole Eligibility Date:    2011-02-01
 
SPECIAL INFORMATION FOR SCHEDULED RELEASE:
Scheduled Release Date:    Offender is not scheduled for release at this time.
Scheduled Release Type:    Will be determined when release date is scheduled.
Scheduled Release Location:    Will be determined when release date is scheduled.
 
Offense History:
Offense Date    Offense    Sentence Date    County    Case No.    Sentence (Y-MM-DD)
2000-11-02    ASLT ON PUBLIC SERVANT    2001-04-23    GONZALES    8-01    5-00-00
2009-02-10    POSS MARIJ 4OZ-5LBS    2010-09-30    GUADALUPE    09-1961-CR    3-00-00

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9404.msg1303552;topicseen#msg1303552



Tamikosmom - TY for this information

Do you know if the age: 31 of David Gloria is his current age (does the report you shared pull up current information)(I don't see a date of birth for David Gloria).

David Dunn, Billie's son is almost 16 1/2 y.o. per his birth certificate dob:  18 Aug. 1994

Billie is 33 (taking into consideration David's age and pregnancy time - Billie would have only been 16 y.o. when Billie became pregnant with David.

"IF" the information above is correct - that would make David's dad - 14 at that time.  Not good.

Hopefully, we can find out David Gloria's DOB.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Thunder_Sis on March 31, 2011, 06:08:34 AM
https://www.vinelink.com/vinelink/searchResultsAction.do?searchType=offender&siteId=44900&searchWhere=state&agency=301&id=&lastName=Gloria&firstName=David&dob=&ageRange=0&methodToCall=search

 Offender Name: DAVID  GLORIA
Offender ID:
327397
Date of Birth:
06/03/1979
Age:
31
Race:
White
Gender:
Male
 
Custody Status:
Transferred
Location of Offender:
Texas Department Criminal Justice
 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: seahorse on March 31, 2011, 08:01:43 AM
I am still going back through all of the old threads. I just found something out. Before my head completely spins out of control, has any monkey been able to verify David Dunn's real father's name? Has his sex offender and criminal record been posted on here? TIA

David Dunn's Birth Certificate

Klaasen
Re: Hailey Dunn #4 1/22/11 -
« Reply #649 on: January 27, 2011, 12:19:32 AM »


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9336.msg1295884


David Gloria - David Dunn's Birth Father

cartfly
Re: Hailey Dunn #7 2/11/11 -
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2011, 02:34:34 AM »


http://168.51.178.33/webapp/TDCJ/InmateDetails.jsp?sidnumber=05955382

SID Number:    05955382
TDCJ Number:    01683464
Name:    GLORIA,DAVID
Race:    H
Sex:    M
Age:    31
Maximum Sentence Date:    2013-09-27       
Current Facility:    GARZA EAST
Projected Release Date:    2012-02-15
Parole Eligibility Date:    2011-02-01
 
SPECIAL INFORMATION FOR SCHEDULED RELEASE:
Scheduled Release Date:    Offender is not scheduled for release at this time.
Scheduled Release Type:    Will be determined when release date is scheduled.
Scheduled Release Location:    Will be determined when release date is scheduled.
 
Offense History:
Offense Date    Offense    Sentence Date    County    Case No.    Sentence (Y-MM-DD)
2000-11-02    ASLT ON PUBLIC SERVANT    2001-04-23    GONZALES    8-01    5-00-00
2009-02-10    POSS MARIJ 4OZ-5LBS    2010-09-30    GUADALUPE    09-1961-CR    3-00-00

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9404.msg1303552;topicseen#msg1303552



Tamikosmom - TY for this information

Do you know if the age: 31 of David Gloria is his current age (does the report you shared pull up current information)(I don't see a date of birth for David Gloria).

David Dunn, Billie's son is almost 16 1/2 y.o. per his birth certificate dob:  18 Aug. 1994

Billie is 33 (taking into consideration David's age and pregnancy time - Billie would have only been 16 y.o. when Billie became pregnant with David.

"IF" the information above is correct - that would make David's dad - 14 at that time.  Not good.

Hopefully, we can find out David Gloria's DOB.



Hi Monkey's,

Is the David Gloria conclusive?  We don't want SM being sued for slander.  There are a few DG's in Texas.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Constance on March 31, 2011, 01:08:02 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356876

Hailey's Relatives React to City Manager's Comments

Kampfer says he believes.... <snip>

Hi everyone, nice to be here. I just wanted to say ...Boy I think he (PK) put his foot in it, again!
 ::MonkeyEek::
gbyall,
~constance


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on March 31, 2011, 01:35:03 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356876

Hailey's Relatives React to City Manager's Comments

Kampfer says he believes.... <snip>

Hi everyone, nice to be here. I just wanted to say ...Boy I think he (PK) put his foot in it, again!
 ::MonkeyEek::
gbyall,
~constance

Welcome to Scared Monkeys, Constance!

(http://bestsmileys.com/welcome/4.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 31, 2011, 01:40:39 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356876

Hailey's Relatives React to City Manager's Comments

Kampfer says he believes.... <snip>

Hi everyone, nice to be here. I just wanted to say ...Boy I think he (PK) put his foot in it, again!
 ::MonkeyEek::
gbyall,
~constance

Welcome to the cage Constance!

Last night hubby and I visited our youngest sons lifelong friend, his lovely wife and their adorable newborn baby girl.  Her beautiful name ... Olivia "Constance".  Great Grandmother "Connie" was thrilled.

Pete Kamper?  I cannot comprhend the choice of the Hailey Dunn Task Force for a media spokesperson.  Kampfer does not have what it takes for the task.  He doesn't understand.  The public does not care about his "opinions".  The public wants concrete updates.

Janet
 



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cookie on March 31, 2011, 02:22:41 PM
welcome Constance..

Janet..lovely name for baby..Olivia Constance...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 31, 2011, 03:01:56 PM
Video from this morning.  Reaction of Colorado people to the news that Hailey was believed to be dead.  There is no follow-up to the clarifications that were made by the city manager.  Sad.

http://www.ktxs.com/video/27384395/index.html



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 31, 2011, 03:03:25 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356876

Hailey's Relatives React to City Manager's Comments

Kampfer says he believes.... <snip>

Hi everyone, nice to be here. I just wanted to say ...Boy I think he (PK) put his foot in it, again!
 ::MonkeyEek::
gbyall,
~constance

Welcome to the cage Constance!

Last night hubby and I visited our youngest sons lifelong friend, his lovely wife and their adorable newborn baby girl.  Her beautiful name ... Olivia "Constance".  Great Grandmother "Connie" was thrilled.

Pete Kamper?  I cannot comprhend the choice of the Hailey Dunn Task Force for a media spokesperson.  Kampfer does not have what it takes for the task.  He doesn't understand.  The public does not care about his "opinions".  The public wants concrete updates.

Janet


Le did not choose PK as a spokesperson, the city did & there is a distinction, as previously discussed.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 31, 2011, 03:10:25 PM
Capp, PK is totally ineffective.  Do you think that he can/will be changed...or is that even a possibility? 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 31, 2011, 03:11:40 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356876

Hailey's Relatives React to City Manager's Comments

Kampfer says he believes.... <snip>

Hi everyone, nice to be here. I just wanted to say ...Boy I think he (PK) put his foot in it, again!
 ::MonkeyEek::
gbyall,
~constance

Welcome Constance, he should just give up the mike & let LE above his local level handle this case in its entirety.  Do you go by Constance or Connie for short?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 31, 2011, 03:15:34 PM
Capp, PK is totally ineffective.  Do you think that he can/will be changed...or is that even a possibility? 

Yes he is & not soon enough.   In most communities that employ an city manager, it is usually at the hire of the mayor's office.  I guess it would be safe to say unless something egregious transpires or he resigns it may then come down to the next election when a new mayor may want to make changes.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: seahorse on March 31, 2011, 04:33:33 PM
http://pipl.com/search/?FirstName=david&LastName=gloria&City=&State=TX&Country=US&CategoryID=2&Interface=3

PIPL.com list's a few other David Gloria profiles.  I need to be dead sure, first, before I state who I think he the Dad. I would hate to have DD read something, that may not be true.  Poor kid.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on March 31, 2011, 04:44:57 PM
Hailey's Relatives React

It's not something you ever want to think about," said Hailey's grandma, Patricia Trischel.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=357016

Hailey's grandma, Patricia Trischel, was visibly emotional talking about today's events.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=356996

Hailey's Relatives React to City Manager's Comments
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356876


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 31, 2011, 04:51:33 PM
In one word ... "UNPROFESSIONAL"

A statement could have been provided to the official spokesperson to read ... a statement that clearly defined the updates in the Hailey Dunn case that the task force was willing to reveal.

The mixed messages received from today's press conference implies that investigators are far from putting together a case against Shawn Adkins.

Janet

++++++



The other day I email the City Manager Peter Kampfer requesting that he clarify his role with the Hailey Dunn task force.

I received the following response today.

Janet

++++++

Janet,

Mr. Kampfer is the liason person between the task force and the news media. Along with Sheriff Patrick Toombs and Chief John Bivins, he is in the loop as far as what's being released from the task force.

Carol Parsons


LOL - the only "loop" PK is in is the tie around the his neck which supports the hamster ball he calls his brain.   ::CowboySmiley::

Flutter

Pete Kampfer has been out of the "loop" since the getgo.

It makes sense that the words of a media spokesperson for the Hailey Dunn investigation would be informed of the facts prior to opening his mouth in a press conference.

To avoid misunderstandings ... to avoid being perceived as an idiot ... logic dictates that the Task Force (investigators) should afford Pete Kampfer a prepared statement to read.  He should also be provided prepared answers to possible media questions.  The words "I cannot comment" would suffice to all unexpected questions that he has knowledge or ... "I am sorry ... I do not know" to all other queries.

The affidavits revealed that Billie was truthful when she claimed on the January 6th Nancy Grace show when she stated that Shawn and her failed their respective polygraphs

Janet

+++++++

JANUARY 6, 2011

Billie:  We Failed

NANCY GRACE
Missing Cheerleader`s Mom and Boyfriend Failed Polygraph
Aired January 6, 2011 - 20:00   ET


BILLIE DUNN: ....  He took his. I went in. They told me he failed it. I lost it, of course. Then they took me over to the courthouse. I took a polygraph test. I failed it.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/06/ng.01.html


JANUARY 7, 2011

Undermining Billie's Claim

Polygraphs Unconfirmed
January 7, 2011 - 12:29pm


In a press conference this morning, City Manager Pete Kampfer stated that polygraphs results were unconfirmed.

"It is my understanding that they (task force) did not advise whether a person passed or failed," Kampfer said.

Kampfer further stated that  not informing interviewees of the results of their polygraph tests is standard law enforcement procedure and to his knowledge, none of the people involved had been informed of the results.

<snipped>

http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/2011/01/polygraphs-unconfirmed


JANUARY 11, 2010

Confirmation - Affidavits

Shawn Adkins


<snipped>

On the third attempt to polygraph ADKINS he submitted to the first stage of the polygraph and the polygraph was deception indicated, meaning ADKINS failed the examination  on the relevant questions of knowing the whereabouts of Hailey Dunn.

<snipped>

http://www.newswest9.com/Global/link.asp?L=471989


Billy Dunn

<snipped>

On the second attempt to conduct a polygraph examination of DUNN she did submit to a polygraph and the results of the examinatin was deception indicated, meaning that DUNN failed the polygraph examination on the relevant questions of participation in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn.

<snipped>

http://www.newswest9.com/Global/link.asp?L=471989


Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
By Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 2:17 pm CST January 12, 2011


<snipped>

Through the Freedom of Information Act, KTXS has received copies of affidavits that were filed by law enforcement officials for the purpose of securing search warrants to search for and seize evidence related to Hailey’s disappearance.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 31, 2011, 04:53:32 PM
Hailey's Relatives React

It's not something you ever want to think about," said Hailey's grandma, Patricia Trischel.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=357016

Hailey's grandma, Patricia Trischel, was visibly emotional talking about today's events.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=356996

Hailey's Relatives React to City Manager's Comments
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356876

Hailey's grandma?

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 31, 2011, 05:16:31 PM
Is Pete Kampfer a self-proclaimed media liason for the Hailey Dunn investigation?

Yesterday's press conference was a joke.  If Kampfer's words are representative of what is going on within the Hailey Dunn investigation ... justice for Hailey doesn't stand a chance.

IMO

Janet

++++++

City manager assumes new duties in Colorado City teen's disappearance
Kampfer has been spokesman for task force investigating the case
Posted January 22, 2011 at 10:21 p.m.


COLORADO CITY — A daily barrage of questions from the media was not in Pete Kampfer's job description, when he hired on as city manager in Colorado City over a year ago.

But questions from reporters are the norm for Kampfer since 13-year-old Hailey Dunn disappeared almost a month ago. The case has attracted much local and national media attention, and Kampfer is the primary liaison for information in the case.

"We just want to find her in good order," Kampfer said, of Hailey, who was reported missing Dec. 28 by her mother Billie Jean Dunn.

Investigators have been tight-lipped about evidence and developments in the case, but the media are persistent, seeking daily updates on search efforts, evidence and possible arrests.

"I want to try and work with the media on an accurate basis on what we're doing here with the Texas Rangers and the FBI," Kampfer said.

Kampfer said his experience as an FBI special agent is helping him disseminate information.

"I understand the rules of law, and when I trained with the FBI, I learned to work with local law enforcement," Kampfer said.

Early on, Kampfer decided to take over the public information aspect of the investigation.

"I stepped in to that role to allow the chief to work the case," said Kampfer, who has worked with Department of Public Safety Senior Trooper Sparky Dean on answering questions from the press.

<snipped>

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/22/kampfer/




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 31, 2011, 06:05:18 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356876

Hailey's Relatives React to City Manager's Comments

Kampfer says he believes.... <snip>

Hi everyone, nice to be here. I just wanted to say ...Boy I think he (PK) put his foot in it, again!
 ::MonkeyEek::
gbyall,
~constance

Welcome to the cage Constance!

Last night hubby and I visited our youngest sons lifelong friend, his lovely wife and their adorable newborn baby girl.  Her beautiful name ... Olivia "Constance".  Great Grandmother "Connie" was thrilled.

Pete Kamper?  I cannot comprhend the choice of the Hailey Dunn Task Force for a media spokesperson.  Kampfer does not have what it takes for the task.  He doesn't understand.  The public does not care about his "opinions".  The public wants concrete updates.

Janet


Le did not choose PK as a spokesperson, the city did & there is a distinction, as previously discussed.

Capp

Whether appointed as a liason by Colorado City or the Hailey Dunn Task Force  ... I cannot comprehend why investigators do not have a tight control over the clarity/accuracy of released information by someone who claims to be representative of what is happening within the investigation.

Something does not compute.

Janet

+++++


Kampfer Clarifies Hailey Dunn Statements, Admits Death 'Not Conclusive'
By Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 12:38 pm CDT March 30, 2011
UPDATED: 1:26 pm CDT March 30, 2011


COLORADO CITY, Texas -- City Manager Pete Kampfer on Tuesday told KTXS News – specifically for the first time – that law enforcement officials have reasons to believe that missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn is deceased.

Amid questions and protests from relatives of the missing 13-year-old, Kampfer clarified his statements Wednesday, saying his comments about Hailey being deceased were not intended to be interpreted as “conclusive.”

He said his statement that officials “have reasons to believe that Hailey is deceased” was meant to convey the same approach law enforcement has had for more than two months: The case is considered a criminal investigation – not a runaway teenager.

Nevertheless, the wording Kampfer used on Tuesday in statements to KTXS News was the first on-the-record public statement specifically acknowledging that officials believed Hailey was deceased. When asked by a KTXS reporter, he twice repeated the statement that officials “have reasons to believe that Hailey is deceased.”

The reporting of this news Wednesday morning was understandably disturbing to family members of Hailey Dunn, who have been holding onto hope that Hailey might yet be found and safely returned. The family members showed up to ask what new information prompted the statements and to protest that they need to cling to the hope that Hailey might be returned safely.

Kampfer acknowledged there was no specific breaking news Wednesday morning. Kampfer said that his statement was not intended to be interpreted as an absolute conclusion.

Kampfer said he met with the family members Wednesday to explain to them what law enforcement authorities believe to be true concerning Hailey. However, he pointed out that nothing is confirmed.

He said he told the family members that Hailey could have been kidnapped and could be held under duress – “but it’s not likely,” he said.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/27372485/detail.html



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 31, 2011, 06:40:34 PM
Is Pete Kampfer a self-proclaimed media liason for the Hailey Dunn investigation?

Yesterday's press conference was a joke.  If Kampfer's words are representative of what is going on within the Hailey Dunn investigation ... justice for Hailey doesn't stand a chance.

IMO

Janet

++++++

City manager assumes new duties in Colorado City teen's disappearance
Kampfer has been spokesman for task force investigating the case
Posted January 22, 2011 at 10:21 p.m.


COLORADO CITY — A daily barrage of questions from the media was not in Pete Kampfer's job description, when he hired on as city manager in Colorado City over a year ago.

But questions from reporters are the norm for Kampfer since 13-year-old Hailey Dunn disappeared almost a month ago. The case has attracted much local and national media attention, and Kampfer is the primary liaison for information in the case.

"We just want to find her in good order," Kampfer said, of Hailey, who was reported missing Dec. 28 by her mother Billie Jean Dunn.

Investigators have been tight-lipped about evidence and developments in the case, but the media are persistent, seeking daily updates on search efforts, evidence and possible arrests.

"I want to try and work with the media on an accurate basis on what we're doing here with the Texas Rangers and the FBI," Kampfer said.

Kampfer said his experience as an FBI special agent is helping him disseminate information.

"I understand the rules of law, and when I trained with the FBI, I learned to work with local law enforcement," Kampfer said.

Early on, Kampfer decided to take over the public information aspect of the investigation.

"I stepped in to that role to allow the chief to work the case," said Kampfer,
who has worked with Department of Public Safety Senior Trooper Sparky Dean on answering questions from the press.[/color]

<snipped>

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/22/kampfer/




BBM^^^

Hi, Janet.  Thanks for bringing back the article.  It's clear now why he is the spokesman for the investigation, and the city and le are content with him. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 31, 2011, 06:45:18 PM
Is Pete Kampfer a self-proclaimed media liason for the Hailey Dunn investigation?

Yesterday's press conference was a joke.  If Kampfer's words are representative of what is going on within the Hailey Dunn investigation ... justice for Hailey doesn't stand a chance.

IMO

Janet

++++++

City manager assumes new duties in Colorado City teen's disappearance
Kampfer has been spokesman for task force investigating the case
Posted January 22, 2011 at 10:21 p.m.


COLORADO CITY — A daily barrage of questions from the media was not in Pete Kampfer's job description, when he hired on as city manager in Colorado City over a year ago.

But questions from reporters are the norm for Kampfer since 13-year-old Hailey Dunn disappeared almost a month ago. The case has attracted much local and national media attention, and Kampfer is the primary liaison for information in the case.

"We just want to find her in good order," Kampfer said, of Hailey, who was reported missing Dec. 28 by her mother Billie Jean Dunn.

Investigators have been tight-lipped about evidence and developments in the case, but the media are persistent, seeking daily updates on search efforts, evidence and possible arrests.

"I want to try and work with the media on an accurate basis on what we're doing here with the Texas Rangers and the FBI," Kampfer said.

Kampfer said his experience as an FBI special agent is helping him disseminate information.

"I understand the rules of law, and when I trained with the FBI, I learned to work with local law enforcement," Kampfer said.

Early on, Kampfer decided to take over the public information aspect of the investigation.

"I stepped in to that role to allow the chief to work the case," said Kampfer,
who has worked with Department of Public Safety Senior Trooper Sparky Dean on answering questions from the press.[/color]

<snipped>

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/22/kampfer/




BBM^^^

Hi, Janet.  Thanks for bringing back the article.  It's clear now why he is the spokesman for the investigation, and the city and le are content with him. 


Why?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Thunder_Sis on March 31, 2011, 07:21:37 PM
http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/2011/03/officials-change-reward-wording-hailey-dunn-case

 ::snipping2::
The on-going investigation has involved members of the Texas Rangers, FBI, CIA, DPS, area law enforcement, as well as the Mitchell County Sheriff’s office and the Colorado City Police Department.
 ::snipping2::

CIA??


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Thunder_Sis on March 31, 2011, 07:36:44 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Intelligence_Agency


::snipping2::
As part of its mandate to gather intelligence, CIA is looking increasingly online for information, and has become a major consumer of social media. "We're looking at YouTube, which carries some unique and honest-to-goodness intelligence," said Doug Naquin, director of the DNI Open Source Center (OSC) at CIA headquarters. "We're looking at chat rooms and things that didn't exist five years ago, and trying to stay ahead.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 31, 2011, 07:37:54 PM
Is Pete Kampfer a self-proclaimed media liason for the Hailey Dunn investigation?

Yesterday's press conference was a joke.  If Kampfer's words are representative of what is going on within the Hailey Dunn investigation ... justice for Hailey doesn't stand a chance.

IMO

Janet

++++++

City manager assumes new duties in Colorado City teen's disappearance
Kampfer has been spokesman for task force investigating the case
Posted January 22, 2011 at 10:21 p.m.


COLORADO CITY — A daily barrage of questions from the media was not in Pete Kampfer's job description, when he hired on as city manager in Colorado City over a year ago.

But questions from reporters are the norm for Kampfer since 13-year-old Hailey Dunn disappeared almost a month ago. The case has attracted much local and national media attention, and Kampfer is the primary liaison for information in the case.

"We just want to find her in good order," Kampfer said, of Hailey, who was reported missing Dec. 28 by her mother Billie Jean Dunn.

Investigators have been tight-lipped about evidence and developments in the case, but the media are persistent, seeking daily updates on search efforts, evidence and possible arrests.

"I want to try and work with the media on an accurate basis on what we're doing here with the Texas Rangers and the FBI," Kampfer said.

Kampfer said his experience as an FBI special agent is helping him disseminate information.

"I understand the rules of law, and when I trained with the FBI, I learned to work with local law enforcement," Kampfer said.

Early on, Kampfer decided to take over the public information aspect of the investigation.

"I stepped in to that role to allow the chief to work the case," said Kampfer,
who has worked with Department of Public Safety Senior Trooper Sparky Dean on answering questions from the press.[/color]

<snipped>

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/22/kampfer/




BBM^^^

Hi, Janet.  Thanks for bringing back the article.  It's clear now why he is the spokesman for the investigation, and the city and le are content with him. 


Why?

Janet, it's a small city of approx 4,000; and he has FBI experience and working with the le.  That doesn't mean that he has been an effective communicator--he hasn't, in my opinion.  Hopefully, after the confusion created by the press conference, the mayor and le will have a meeting with him to be prepared and communicate clearly.  After all, he is the spokesman for the investigation.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on March 31, 2011, 07:42:06 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356876

Hailey's Relatives React to City Manager's Comments

Kampfer says he believes.... <snip>

Hi everyone, nice to be here. I just wanted to say ...Boy I think he (PK) put his foot in it, again!
 ::MonkeyEek::
gbyall,
~constance

Welcome to the cage Constance!

Last night hubby and I visited our youngest sons lifelong friend, his lovely wife and their adorable newborn baby girl.  Her beautiful name ... Olivia "Constance".  Great Grandmother "Connie" was thrilled.

Pete Kamper?  I cannot comprhend the choice of the Hailey Dunn Task Force for a media spokesperson.  Kampfer does not have what it takes for the task.  He doesn't understand.  The public does not care about his "opinions".  The public wants concrete updates.

Janet


Le did not choose PK as a spokesperson, the city did & there is a distinction, as previously discussed.

Capp

Whether appointed as a liason by Colorado City or the Hailey Dunn Task Force  ... I cannot comprehend why investigators do not have a tight control over the clarity/accuracy of released information by someone who claims to be representative of what is happening within the investigation.

Something does not compute.

Janet

+++++


 ::snipping2::

Nope, something certainly doesnt compute.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 31, 2011, 07:55:07 PM
Is Pete Kampfer a self-proclaimed media liason for the Hailey Dunn investigation?

Yesterday's press conference was a joke.  If Kampfer's words are representative of what is going on within the Hailey Dunn investigation ... justice for Hailey doesn't stand a chance.

IMO

Janet

++++++

City manager assumes new duties in Colorado City teen's disappearance
Kampfer has been spokesman for task force investigating the case
Posted January 22, 2011 at 10:21 p.m.


COLORADO CITY — A daily barrage of questions from the media was not in Pete Kampfer's job description, when he hired on as city manager in Colorado City over a year ago.

But questions from reporters are the norm for Kampfer since 13-year-old Hailey Dunn disappeared almost a month ago. The case has attracted much local and national media attention, and Kampfer is the primary liaison for information in the case.

"We just want to find her in good order," Kampfer said, of Hailey, who was reported missing Dec. 28 by her mother Billie Jean Dunn.

Investigators have been tight-lipped about evidence and developments in the case, but the media are persistent, seeking daily updates on search efforts, evidence and possible arrests.

"I want to try and work with the media on an accurate basis on what we're doing here with the Texas Rangers and the FBI," Kampfer said.

Kampfer said his experience as an FBI special agent is helping him disseminate information.

"I understand the rules of law, and when I trained with the FBI, I learned to work with local law enforcement," Kampfer said.

Early on, Kampfer decided to take over the public information aspect of the investigation.

"I stepped in to that role to allow the chief to work the case," said Kampfer,
who has worked with Department of Public Safety Senior Trooper Sparky Dean on answering questions from the press.[/color]

<snipped>

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/22/kampfer/




BBM^^^

Hi, Janet.  Thanks for bringing back the article.  It's clear now why he is the spokesman for the investigation, and the city and le are content with him. 


Why?

Janet, it's a small city of approx 4,000; and he has FBI experience and working with the le.  That doesn't mean that he has been an effective communicator--he hasn't, in my opinion.  Hopefully, after the confusion created by the press conference, the mayor and le will have a meeting with him to be prepared and communicate clearly.  After all, he is the spokesman for the investigation.

This is three months into the investigation and Pete Kampfer has messed up time and time again.  Why wasn't he replaced long ago as spokesperson for the investigation or ... why was a process not established that would ensure clarity and accuracy in his media statements.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 31, 2011, 08:10:07 PM
Is Pete Kampfer a self-proclaimed media liason for the Hailey Dunn investigation?

Yesterday's press conference was a joke.  If Kampfer's words are representative of what is going on within the Hailey Dunn investigation ... justice for Hailey doesn't stand a chance.

IMO

Janet

++++++

City manager assumes new duties in Colorado City teen's disappearance
Kampfer has been spokesman for task force investigating the case
Posted January 22, 2011 at 10:21 p.m.


COLORADO CITY — A daily barrage of questions from the media was not in Pete Kampfer's job description, when he hired on as city manager in Colorado City over a year ago.

But questions from reporters are the norm for Kampfer since 13-year-old Hailey Dunn disappeared almost a month ago. The case has attracted much local and national media attention, and Kampfer is the primary liaison for information in the case.

"We just want to find her in good order," Kampfer said, of Hailey, who was reported missing Dec. 28 by her mother Billie Jean Dunn.

Investigators have been tight-lipped about evidence and developments in the case, but the media are persistent, seeking daily updates on search efforts, evidence and possible arrests.

"I want to try and work with the media on an accurate basis on what we're doing here with the Texas Rangers and the FBI," Kampfer said.

Kampfer said his experience as an FBI special agent is helping him disseminate information.

"I understand the rules of law, and when I trained with the FBI, I learned to work with local law enforcement," Kampfer said.

Early on, Kampfer decided to take over the public information aspect of the investigation.

"I stepped in to that role to allow the chief to work the case," said Kampfer,
who has worked with Department of Public Safety Senior Trooper Sparky Dean on answering questions from the press.[/color]

<snipped>

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/22/kampfer/




BBM^^^

Hi, Janet.  Thanks for bringing back the article.  It's clear now why he is the spokesman for the investigation, and the city and le are content with him. 


Why?

Janet, it's a small city of approx 4,000; and he has FBI experience and working with the le.  That doesn't mean that he has been an effective communicator--he hasn't, in my opinion.  Hopefully, after the confusion created by the press conference, the mayor and le will have a meeting with him to be prepared and communicate clearly.  After all, he is the spokesman for the investigation.

This is three months into the investigation and Pete Kampfer has messed up time and time again.  Why wasn't he replaced long ago as spokesperson for the investigation or ... why was a process not established that would ensure clarity and accuracy in his media statements.

Janet

Maybe because he was hired as the city manager just a year ago (with its duties and responsibilities) and wasn't prepared (over his head?) to be the spokesman for what turned into such a high-profile case.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 31, 2011, 08:15:05 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356876

Hailey's Relatives React to City Manager's Comments

Kampfer says he believes.... <snip>

Hi everyone, nice to be here. I just wanted to say ...Boy I think he (PK) put his foot in it, again!
 ::MonkeyEek::
gbyall,
~constance

Hi, Constance!  :)   Yes, I believe you're right.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on March 31, 2011, 08:17:33 PM
Hailey's Relatives React

It's not something you ever want to think about," said Hailey's grandma, Patricia Trischel.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=357016

Hailey's grandma, Patricia Trischel, was visibly emotional talking about today's events.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=356996

Hailey's Relatives React to City Manager's Comments
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356876

Hailey's grandma?

Janet

She isn't.  She's Clint's gf's mother (Naomi's mother, iow).  But she'll say she's the grandmother... I'm not sure Hailey would since Hailey apparently wasn't even really comfortable with the whole Naomi thing until her little sister was born.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 31, 2011, 08:38:55 PM

Janet, it's a small city of approx 4,000; and he has FBI experience and working with the le.  That doesn't mean that he has been an effective communicator--he hasn't, in my opinion.  Hopefully, after the confusion created by the press conference, the mayor and le will have a meeting with him to be prepared and communicate clearly.  After all, he is the spokesman for the investigation.

This is three months into the investigation and Pete Kampfer has messed up time and time again.  Why wasn't he replaced long ago as spokesperson for the investigation or ... why was a process not established that would ensure clarity and accuracy in his media statements.

Janet

Maybe because he was hired as the city manager just a year ago (with its duties and responsibilities) and wasn't prepared (over his head?) to be the spokesman for what turned into such a high-profile case.

Grace

I ask again ... "If Pete Kampfer is not "prepared" to do the task ... why has he not been replaced within the past three months?"

Pete Kampfer is suppose to be speaking on behalf of the Task Force.  Time and time again his words to the media have proved not to be representative of what is going on within the investigation ... only his own take on the issues.

Why does he not refrain from making media statements until an prepared statement is forthcoming from the Task Force ... a prepared statement that represents accuracy and clarity?

Think about the recent arrest of Billie Dunn.  Billie Dunn was arrested because she obstructed the investigation by denying Shawn was in the house when investigators came to her house with a warrant to search the person of Shawn.  In other words ... there was no arrest warrants to serve on either her or Shawn.

The story Pete Kampfer gave to the media while all this commotion was taking place was that both Shawn and Billie had been taken into custody for questioning.  Why did this guy not wait and find out the truth regarding the happenings from investigators  prior to speaking to the media?  He is so unprofessional.

Janet

+++

Mother of Colorado City missing teen Hailey Dunn apparently in custody
Posted March 17, 2011 at 7:56 p.m
.

<snipped>

UPDATED 8:30 P.M. Billie Jean Dunn and Shawn Adkins have apparently been “picked up” by officials from the Mitchell County Sheriff’s Department, according to Pete Kampfer, Colorado City city manager .

<snipped>

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/17/mother-colorado-city-missing-teen-hailey-du...nn-appa/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 31, 2011, 08:41:32 PM
Hailey's Relatives React

It's not something you ever want to think about," said Hailey's grandma, Patricia Trischel.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=357016

Hailey's grandma, Patricia Trischel, was visibly emotional talking about today's events.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=356996

Hailey's Relatives React to City Manager's Comments
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356876

Hailey's grandma?

Janet

She isn't.  She's Clint's gf's mother (Naomi's mother, iow).  But she'll say she's the grandmother... I'm not sure Hailey would since Hailey apparently wasn't even really comfortable with the whole Naomi thing until her little sister was born.

Thanks starwynn

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Constance on March 31, 2011, 09:27:18 PM
Thanks for the welcome, yall! I'm down in Sweetwater so this case hits pretty close for me.Contance, Connie or Hey you all work for me pretty well, gbyall:)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: grace-land on March 31, 2011, 09:38:03 PM

Janet, it's a small city of approx 4,000; and he has FBI experience and working with the le.  That doesn't mean that he has been an effective communicator--he hasn't, in my opinion.  Hopefully, after the confusion created by the press conference, the mayor and le will have a meeting with him to be prepared and communicate clearly.  After all, he is the spokesman for the investigation.

This is three months into the investigation and Pete Kampfer has messed up time and time again.  Why wasn't he replaced long ago as spokesperson for the investigation or ... why was a process not established that would ensure clarity and accuracy in his media statements.

Janet

Maybe because he was hired as the city manager just a year ago (with its duties and responsibilities) and wasn't prepared (over his head?) to be the spokesman for what turned into such a high-profile case.

Grace

I ask again ... "If Pete Kampfer is not "prepared" to do the task ... why has he not been replaced within the past three months?"

Pete Kampfer is suppose to be speaking on behalf of the Task Force.  Time and time again his words to the media have proved not to be representative of what is going on within the investigation ... only his own take on the issues.

Why does he not refrain from making media statements until an prepared statement is forthcoming from the Task Force ... a prepared statement that represents accuracy and clarity?

Think about the recent arrest of Billie Dunn.  Billie Dunn was arrested because she obstructed the investigation by denying Shawn was in the house when investigators came to her house with a warrant to search the person of Shawn.  In other words ... there was no arrest warrants to serve on either her or Shawn.

The story Pete Kampfer gave to the media while all this commotion was taking place was that both Shawn and Billie had been taken into custody for questioning.  Why did this guy not wait and find out the truth regarding the happenings from investigators  prior to speaking to the media?  He is so unprofessional.

Janet

+++

Mother of Colorado City missing teen Hailey Dunn apparently in custody
Posted March 17, 2011 at 7:56 p.m
.

<snipped>

UPDATED 8:30 P.M. Billie Jean Dunn and Shawn Adkins have apparently been “picked up” by officials from the Mitchell County Sheriff’s Department, according to Pete Kampfer, Colorado City city manager .

<snipped>

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/17/mother-colorado-city-missing-teen-hailey-du...nn-appa/

Janet

I'm not the spokesman for PK--thank goodness. lol

Here's his website if you would like to get further clarification from him. lol (just teasing you)
http://tx-coloradocity.civiccities.com/index.aspx?nid=125

Here is the link to his most recent damage-control statements:
http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/2011/03/officials-change-reward-wording-hailey-dunn-case

o/t  My registration was approved a month ago.  I've been reading here for over 5 years--beginning with Natalee.  I'm happy to be posting with such smart monkeys.  I admire your tenacity and determination for truth, justice, and resolution of issues and missing person cases.  Keep up the good work!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on March 31, 2011, 09:45:17 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/MOD/modlock4.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 31, 2011, 11:19:09 PM

Colorado City Middle School Coping With News That Hailey May Not Be Found AliveBy Ashlei King, KTXS News

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- A day after investigators said they have reason to believe missing 13-year-old Hailey Dunn is deceased, officials at her school spoke out.

The Principal, counselor and teachers were shaken up by the idea that Hailey could be dead, but they said they are not going to give up hope that investigators will find Hailey and bring her home.

Hailey’s 8th grade math teacher Joni Lacefield admitted everyday Hailey is away, it gets harder as a teacher.

“It's hard because everyday I have to go in and mark her absent," Lacefield said. ::snipping2::


http://www.ktxs.com/news/27391755/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on April 01, 2011, 12:18:23 AM
What concerns me is the Colorado City's total disregard for the family of Hailey Dunn. Billie and Shawn's actions have obviously not endeared them to anyone on this case nor has Clint's criminal record. Add the fact that the family is disfunctional and poor. How nice it must be for those in charge of this investigation to blatantly disregard this family to the point of not allowing them into yesterday's "press conference". I am sure that no one is jumping through hoops to update the family or offer any sort of explanations as to the status of the case or lack there of. The city manager himself stated that "he just wanted this over with so that he could get on with his life". My worry is that they are going to do as little as possible because they don't feel that they have anyone to answer to. My worry is that if Shawn or someone else killed Hailey and they bring this case to trial, that some media hungry defense attorney is going to shoot holes all over the place and the suspect will walk. Hailey deserves the same attention as any child regardless of who her parents are, what they have done, or how much money they do not have.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on April 01, 2011, 12:25:17 AM
What concerns me is the Colorado City's total disregard for the family of Hailey Dunn. Billie and Shawn's actions have obviously not endeared them to anyone on this case nor has Clint's criminal record. Add the fact that the family is disfunctional and poor. How nice it must be for those in charge of this investigation to blatantly disregard this family to the point of not allowing them into yesterday's "press conference". I am sure that no one is jumping through hoops to update the family or offer any sort of explanations as to the status of the case or lack there of. The city manager himself stated that "he just wanted this over with so that he could get on with his life". My worry is that they are going to do as little as possible because they don't feel that they have anyone to answer to. My worry is that if Shawn or someone else killed Hailey and they bring this case to trial, that some media hungry defense attorney is going to shoot holes all over the place and the suspect will walk. Hailey deserves the same attention as any child regardless of who her parents are, what they have done, or how much money they do not have.

Well really, they let Clint know the day before what was going on in the pressie.  He really should have contacted the family, or they him.  I'm not sure what happened - usually press conferences are for press?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: cw618 on April 01, 2011, 12:46:56 AM
Hailey's Relatives React

It's not something you ever want to think about," said Hailey's grandma, Patricia Trischel.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=357016

Hailey's grandma, Patricia Trischel, was visibly emotional talking about today's events.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=356996

Hailey's Relatives React to City Manager's Comments
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356876

Hailey's grandma?

Janet

She isn't.  She's Clint's gf's mother (Naomi's mother, iow).  But she'll say she's the grandmother... I'm not sure Hailey would since Hailey apparently wasn't even really comfortable with the whole Naomi thing until her little sister was born.

TY starwynn, i meant to ask the same thing janet did,but hit enter to soon then i had to go

hailey has 2 Gma named connie is that correct ?  connie seems to be a popular name today

welcome constance,and or connie


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on April 01, 2011, 01:09:40 AM
Hailey's Relatives React

It's not something you ever want to think about," said Hailey's grandma, Patricia Trischel.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=357016

Hailey's grandma, Patricia Trischel, was visibly emotional talking about today's events.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=356996

Hailey's Relatives React to City Manager's Comments
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356876

Hailey's grandma?

Janet


She isn't.  She's Clint's gf's mother (Naomi's mother, iow).  But she'll say she's the grandmother... I'm not sure Hailey would since Hailey apparently wasn't even really comfortable with the whole Naomi thing until her little sister was born.

INTERESTING ! From my personal Facebook page : 03/31/2011

Connie Jones
THIS IS WHAT IS ON MY MIND {PRITICIA TISCHEL} IS NOT HAILEY DARLENE DUNNS GRANDMOTHER.I ALLWAYS THOUGHT YOU.R DAUGHTER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MARRIED TO A MAN IN ORDER TO BE SOMEONES STEPT GRANDMOTHER.AND FYI CLINT AND NAOMI ARE NOT MARRIED.SO YOU PEOPLE CAN GO AND BELEAVE HER LIES YOU ALL WELL LIVE TO REGRET IT!!!!!!!!!!

Connie Jones i know i must sound petty but im so FED up with this *#&$.DAM PERSON .It was only last year she told me she did not care for hailey so what changed now all of the sudden she has tears for hailey???? ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on April 01, 2011, 01:18:56 AM
Hailey's Relatives React

It's not something you ever want to think about," said Hailey's grandma, Patricia Trischel.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=357016

Hailey's grandma, Patricia Trischel, was visibly emotional talking about today's events.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=356996

Hailey's Relatives React to City Manager's Comments
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356876

Hailey's grandma?

Janet


She isn't.  She's Clint's gf's mother (Naomi's mother, iow).  But she'll say she's the grandmother... I'm not sure Hailey would since Hailey apparently wasn't even really comfortable with the whole Naomi thing until her little sister was born.

INTERESTING ! From my personal Facebook page : 03/31/2011

Connie Jones
THIS IS WHAT IS ON MY MIND {PRITICIA TISCHEL} IS NOT HAILEY DARLENE DUNNS GRANDMOTHER.I ALLWAYS THOUGHT YOU.R DAUGHTER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MARRIED TO A MAN IN ORDER TO BE SOMEONES STEPT GRANDMOTHER.AND FYI CLINT AND NAOMI ARE NOT MARRIED.SO YOU PEOPLE CAN GO AND BELEAVE HER LIES YOU ALL WELL LIVE TO REGRET IT!!!!!!!!!!

Connie Jones i know i must sound petty but im so FED up with this *#&$.DAM PERSON .It was only last year she told me she did not care for hailey so what changed now all of the sudden she has tears for hailey???? ::MonkeyCheer4::

I was wondering when that was going to come up.  Connie Jones had stated on the BTH show that PT had threatened BD, and Hailey in a way to get back to BD.

Excerpt:
Connie: Well, besides Brian and Shawn, there’s somebody that I suspect.

Host: Who is that?

Connie: Patricia Trichel.

Host: Who is that?

Connie: Naomi’s mother, my son’s girlfriend’s mother, Patricia Trichel.

Host: And why do you suspect that?

Connie: Because she told me last year that when she got into this money that she was supposed to be getting, she was gonna put a hit out on Billie Jean, Naomi’s mother, ex-mother-in-law, and some other person, and to hurt somebody real bad. Taking the…

Host: I can barely hear you with the background noise.

Connie: Well, taking her, taking Billie’s daughter would hurt Billie more than anything else."

Source:  http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-transcript-clint-dunns-mother-connie-jones-radio-interview-feb-23/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on April 01, 2011, 01:41:06 AM
Hailey's Relatives React

It's not something you ever want to think about," said Hailey's grandma, Patricia Trischel.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=357016

Hailey's grandma, Patricia Trischel, was visibly emotional talking about today's events.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=356996

Hailey's Relatives React to City Manager's Comments
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356876

Hailey's grandma?

Janet


She isn't.  She's Clint's gf's mother (Naomi's mother, iow).  But she'll say she's the grandmother... I'm not sure Hailey would since Hailey apparently wasn't even really comfortable with the whole Naomi thing until her little sister was born.

INTERESTING ! From my personal Facebook page : 03/31/2011

Connie Jones
THIS IS WHAT IS ON MY MIND {PRITICIA TISCHEL} IS NOT HAILEY DARLENE DUNNS GRANDMOTHER.I ALLWAYS THOUGHT YOU.R DAUGHTER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MARRIED TO A MAN IN ORDER TO BE SOMEONES STEPT GRANDMOTHER.AND FYI CLINT AND NAOMI ARE NOT MARRIED.SO YOU PEOPLE CAN GO AND BELEAVE HER LIES YOU ALL WELL LIVE TO REGRET IT!!!!!!!!!!

Connie Jones i know i must sound petty but im so FED up with this *#&$.DAM PERSON .It was only last year she told me she did not care for hailey so what changed now all of the sudden she has tears for hailey???? ::MonkeyCheer4::

I was wondering when that was going to come up.  Connie Jones had stated on the BTH show that PT had threatened BD, and Hailey in a way to get back to BD.

Excerpt:
Connie: Well, besides Brian and Shawn, there’s somebody that I suspect.

Host: Who is that?

Connie: Patricia Trichel.

Host: Who is that?

Connie: Naomi’s mother, my son’s girlfriend’s mother, Patricia Trichel.

Host: And why do you suspect that?

Connie: Because she told me last year that when she got into this money that she was supposed to be getting, she was gonna put a hit out on Billie Jean, Naomi’s mother, ex-mother-in-law, and some other person, and to hurt somebody real bad. Taking the…

Host: I can barely hear you with the background noise.

Connie: Well, taking her, taking Billie’s daughter would hurt Billie more than anything else."

Source:  http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-transcript-clint-dunns-mother-connie-jones-radio-interview-feb-23/
I do rem. Connie Jones speaking on the show, BTH that night ! I was sort of surprised, but with this family, who knows ???

Naomi's Mother, IMO should step back & not step on any toes. She should have known better in the beginning. This child is Connie's blood, NOT Patricia's.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on April 01, 2011, 01:43:32 AM
What concerns me is the Colorado City's total disregard for the family of Hailey Dunn. Billie and Shawn's actions have obviously not endeared them to anyone on this case nor has Clint's criminal record. Add the fact that the family is disfunctional and poor. How nice it must be for those in charge of this investigation to blatantly disregard this family to the point of not allowing them into yesterday's "press conference". I am sure that no one is jumping through hoops to update the family or offer any sort of explanations as to the status of the case or lack there of. The city manager himself stated that "he just wanted this over with so that he could get on with his life". My worry is that they are going to do as little as possible because they don't feel that they have anyone to answer to. My worry is that if Shawn or someone else killed Hailey and they bring this case to trial, that some media hungry defense attorney is going to shoot holes all over the place and the suspect will walk. Hailey deserves the same attention as any child regardless of who her parents are, what they have done, or how much money they do not have.

Well really, they let Clint know the day before what was going on in the pressie.  He really should have contacted the family, or they him.  I'm not sure what happened - usually press conferences are for press?


Hi Starwyn,
You see what is going on within this family. I would imagine that there is a whole lot of various opinions and debates regarding Hailey. It would not surprise me if some of this family is not talking to other members of this family. I just want to see resources made available to locate Hailey regardless of her family and the job done correctly so that if and when a suspect goes to trial that suspect spends the rest of their miserable life behind bars.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 01, 2011, 01:47:09 AM
Hailey's Relatives React

It's not something you ever want to think about," said Hailey's grandma, Patricia Trischel.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=357016

Hailey's grandma, Patricia Trischel, was visibly emotional talking about today's events.
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=356996

Hailey's Relatives React to City Manager's Comments
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=356876

Hailey's grandma?

Janet


She isn't.  She's Clint's gf's mother (Naomi's mother, iow).  But she'll say she's the grandmother... I'm not sure Hailey would since Hailey apparently wasn't even really comfortable with the whole Naomi thing until her little sister was born.

INTERESTING ! From my personal Facebook page : 03/31/2011

Connie Jones
THIS IS WHAT IS ON MY MIND {PRITICIA TISCHEL} IS NOT HAILEY DARLENE DUNNS GRANDMOTHER.I ALLWAYS THOUGHT YOU.R DAUGHTER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MARRIED TO A MAN IN ORDER TO BE SOMEONES STEPT GRANDMOTHER.AND FYI CLINT AND NAOMI ARE NOT MARRIED.SO YOU PEOPLE CAN GO AND BELEAVE HER LIES YOU ALL WELL LIVE TO REGRET IT!!!!!!!!!!

Connie Jones i know i must sound petty but im so FED up with this *#&$.DAM PERSON .It was only last year she told me she did not care for hailey so what changed now all of the sudden she has tears for hailey???? ::MonkeyCheer4::

I was wondering when that was going to come up.  Connie Jones had stated on the BTH show that PT had threatened BD, and Hailey in a way to get back to BD.

Excerpt:
Connie: Well, besides Brian and Shawn, there’s somebody that I suspect.

Host: Who is that?

Connie: Patricia Trichel.

Host: Who is that?

Connie: Naomi’s mother, my son’s girlfriend’s mother, Patricia Trichel.

Host: And why do you suspect that?

Connie: Because she told me last year that when she got into this money that she was supposed to be getting, she was gonna put a hit out on Billie Jean, Naomi’s mother, ex-mother-in-law, and some other person, and to hurt somebody real bad. Taking the…

Host: I can barely hear you with the background noise.

Connie: Well, taking her, taking Billie’s daughter would hurt Billie more than anything else."

Source:  http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-transcript-clint-dunns-mother-connie-jones-radio-interview-feb-23/

Thanks starwynn

The far reaching family dynamics encompassing the players in the Hailey Dunn case boggles my mind.

Janet

+++++

Hailey's Grandmas - Best Friends

Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Clint Dunn’s Mother, Connie Jones, Radio Interview Feb 23


Host: People have sort of a perception of Billie that she doesn’t show emotion. Has she always been this way? Has she always not shown emotion?

Connie: Well, I’ve seen her cry over wanting Clint back and everything, and you know, tears can get you just about anything, but her mother is my best friend, and she told me that she’s spent many nights over there since this has happened at Billie’s house, and she said she’d hear Billie almost all night long in that bed just crying and crying and crying and crying, and she said she didn’t know what to do. She said ’cause if she went in there, she’d start crying, and then they’d never shut up. She said every night, Billie cried.
 
I know this got, I know she loves that little girl, and it’s gotta be tearing her up, and I don’t know if she’s know, might know something, and maybe Shawn threatened her to not say anything. I don’t know.
 
I know that she, he’s threatened her before, and I know that she’s been scared of him before, because she’s came over here to my house to spend the night, because she said she was afraid of Shawn.

<snipped>

Connie: If her grandmother, Connie, was here, she would say the same thing. She wants that little girl home so much. I mean, she’s just, when we were talking to each other, we’d just cry in each other’s arms. She’d spend the night here, and we would just cry together. We’d ride around. We just cried all the time, and it’s killing us. We just want some, something to hold on to. We want our baby back, is what we want, and I know Hailey, I know Billie Jean wants her back, and if anybody knows anything, please call the Colorado City police.

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-transcript-clint-dunns-mother-connie-jones-radio-interview-feb-23/

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/24/bring-them-home-now-exclusive-hailey-dunns-grandma-and-aunt-livemisisng-laurie-partridge-family


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on April 01, 2011, 01:50:48 AM
 ::snipping2:: Snipped from Starwyns above post:

 Excerpt:
Connie: Well, besides Brian and Shawn, there’s somebody that I suspect.

Host: Who is that?

Connie: Patricia Trichel.

Host: Who is that?

Connie: Naomi’s mother, my son’s girlfriend’s mother, Patricia Trichel.

Host: And why do you suspect that?

Connie: Because she told me last year that when she got into this money that she was supposed to be getting, she was gonna put a hit out on Billie Jean, Naomi’s mother, ex-mother-in-law, and some other person, and to hurt somebody real bad. Taking the…

Host: I can barely hear you with the background noise.

Connie: Well, taking her, taking Billie’s daughter would hurt Billie more than anything else."


I just cannot believe these people. I have heard that there were families like this out there but until you see so much of it coming from the same family, it is really hard to fathom. It is one of the reasons that I follow this case. It is amazing what a great kid Hailey is in spite of all that was going on around her.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 01, 2011, 02:05:44 AM
I do not believe that Clint nor Billie were directly involved in the happenings encompassing the disappearance of their daughter but ... in the process of elimination why was Clint not given a polygraph.  For crying out loud ... Shawn stated that Hailey was on her way over to the home of her father the last time he saw her.  Clint concedes that he was at home.

Think about the Kyron Horman case.  Communication records affirms that Desiree Young was nowhere in the vicinity of her son's residence ... her son's school ... on the day of his disappearance.  Nevertheless ... Kyron's mother was given a polygraph.

If the case goes to trial ... it is my belief and the belief of hubby's "Mr. Know It All" (LOL) nephew who is a corporate attorney that Shawn's defense is going to have a field day regarding this issue.

Good Night All

Janet
11:00 PM PT

++++++

Clint Dunn - No Polygraph

Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Clint Dunn: Blog Talk Radio Interview March 9

<snipped>

Host: Let’s just do this now. Did you take a polygraph?

Clint Dunn: No. No, I haven’t taken a polygraph. They’ve told me from the very beginning that I’m not a suspect, and they have no reason to look at me, and I told them right very beginning, “Hey, you need to do what you need to do to me. Put me in a polygraph, or do whatever, but clearing me, that way, we can find out what’s going on.”, but they’ve known from the beginning that I’m not nobody to look at, so I haven’t done a polygraph or anything.

Host: Where were you the day that she went missing?

Clint Dunn: I was at home. I was in my apartment and I didn’t leave all day long. My back was, I had back spasms that day. My back was tore up, but I didn’t leave the apartment all day long. I was there all day.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-transcript-clint-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-9/

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/10/bring-them-home-now-exclusive-clint-dunn-speaks-mssing-carla-cook-family



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Sister on April 01, 2011, 09:00:21 AM
What concerns me is the Colorado City's total disregard for the family of Hailey Dunn. Billie and Shawn's actions have obviously not endeared them to anyone on this case nor has Clint's criminal record. Add the fact that the family is disfunctional and poor. How nice it must be for those in charge of this investigation to blatantly disregard this family to the point of not allowing them into yesterday's "press conference". I am sure that no one is jumping through hoops to update the family or offer any sort of explanations as to the status of the case or lack there of. The city manager himself stated that "he just wanted this over with so that he could get on with his life". My worry is that they are going to do as little as possible because they don't feel that they have anyone to answer to. My worry is that if Shawn or someone else killed Hailey and they bring this case to trial, that some media hungry defense attorney is going to shoot holes all over the place and the suspect will walk. Hailey deserves the same attention as any child regardless of who her parents are, what they have done, or how much money they do not have.
You've stated is so well Sebastian. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on April 01, 2011, 09:34:22 AM
Who would CCity replace PK with?  I don't think his inability to be an effective liaison for the Hailey Dunn case necessarily would cause him to be fired from the job he is actually responsible for.  Evidently LE doesn't feel they have anyone to be the spokesmen and hiring someone else would take away resources from a town that is already broke. 

This town was/is not equipped to handle a crime with this amount of national media coverage.  PK's blunders wouldn't seem so massive had this not been a case where a missing child's life is the focus but I am sure that the locals are perfectly satisfied with his job performance on other issues up until now.  I don't even think the locals pay much attention to what he says because they have "better" info than he does most of the time and are not under the same legal restraints as he is with what they say.

Do I think PK is a doofus, yes.  I just don't think the town has the resources to replace him with a more polished person.   ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: wildmala on April 01, 2011, 10:31:55 AM

Shawn Adkins Takes Private Polygraph - Statement Analysis

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/04/exclusive-shawn-adkins-takes-private.html

 ::snipping2::
An unnamed source  has reported that within the past few weeks, Shawn Adkins' family had  their own polygraph privately administered, as they considered all the charges that he is facing, in order to best decide what course of action to take.

His family needed to know the truth.

The source reported that Shawn Adkins failed the privately administered polygraph, just as he did the police administered polygraph.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 01, 2011, 10:59:55 AM
Who would CCity replace PK with?  I don't think his inability to be an effective liaison for the Hailey Dunn case necessarily would cause him to be fired from the job he is actually responsible for.  Evidently LE doesn't feel they have anyone to be the spokesmen and hiring someone else would take away resources from a town that is already broke. 

This town was/is not equipped to handle a crime with this amount of national media coverage.  PK's blunders wouldn't seem so massive had this not been a case where a missing child's life is the focus but I am sure that the locals are perfectly satisfied with his job performance on other issues up until now.  I don't even think the locals pay much attention to what he says because they have "better" info than he does most of the time and are not under the same legal restraints as he is with what they say.

Do I think PK is a doofus, yes.  I just don't think the town has the resources to replace him with a more polished person.   ::CowboySmiley::

Fired?

Flutter ... I never said anything of Pete Kampfer being fired from his position of City Manager.  However ... if Kampfer is not qualified to be an effective media liason he needs to step down from this one function of his job description or be provided with guidance from within the Task Force.

Nevetheless there are strategies that could be applied if CCity does not have a effective communicator to serve as a media spokesperson for the Hailey Dunn investigation.

1.  The Task Force could provide Pete Kampfer with a prepared statement with the Haley Dunn updates that are to be released to the media ... a statement of clarity and accuracy.

2.  The Task Force could provide a statement of clarity and accuracy directly to the media.

3.  (starwynn's strategy)

Janet

++++++

You know, I've had it.  I actually emailed their chief of police today about this idiot, Kampfer.  I know they're busy, but SURELY they can take two hours out to prepare a statement and read it themselves rather than having this absolute brain-dead guy talk for them.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 01, 2011, 11:04:45 AM
Thanks wildmala

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 01, 2011, 06:32:47 PM
What concerns me is the Colorado City's total disregard for the family of Hailey Dunn. Billie and Shawn's actions have obviously not endeared them to anyone on this case nor has Clint's criminal record. Add the fact that the family is disfunctional and poor. How nice it must be for those in charge of this investigation to blatantly disregard this family to the point of not allowing them into yesterday's "press conference". I am sure that no one is jumping through hoops to update the family or offer any sort of explanations as to the status of the case or lack there of. The city manager himself stated that "he just wanted this over with so that he could get on with his life". My worry is that they are going to do as little as possible because they don't feel that they have anyone to answer to. My worry is that if Shawn or someone else killed Hailey and they bring this case to trial, that some media hungry defense attorney is going to shoot holes all over the place and the suspect will walk. Hailey deserves the same attention as any child regardless of who her parents are, what they have done, or how much money they do not have.

Sebastian

Investigators and Hailey's parents are not on the same page.  Investigators have determined that Hailey Dunn is deceased.  Investigators have determined that Shawn Adkins is the main suspect in the case.  Clint and Billie's do not or will not concur with investigators on either issue.

Could it be that there are respective underlying reasons why the focus of Hailey's parents does not reflect the focus of investigators and ... could it be that those respective underlying reasons have nothing to do with the truth emerging in regards to the happenings encompassing their daughter?

It is my hope that investigators are committed advocates for Hailey.  It is my hope that dots are being connected behind the scenes ... a strong case against Shawn is coming together and ... justice will prevail for Hailey.  However ... my instinct tells me it is not going to happen.

IMO

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 01, 2011, 06:49:01 PM
I do not believe that Clint nor Billie were directly involved in the happenings encompassing the disappearance of their daughter but ... in the process of elimination why was Clint not given a polygraph.  For crying out loud ... Shawn stated that Hailey was on her way over to the home of her father the last time he saw her.  Clint concedes that he was at home.

Think about the Kyron Horman case.  Communication records affirms that Desiree Young was nowhere in the vicinity of her son's residence ... her son's school ... on the day of his disappearance.  Nevertheless ... Kyron's mother was given a polygraph.

If the case goes to trial ... it is my belief and the belief of hubby's "Mr. Know It All" (LOL) nephew who is a corporate attorney that Shawn's defense is going to have a field day regarding this issue.

Good Night All

Janet
11:00 PM PT

++++++

Clint Dunn - No Polygraph

Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Clint Dunn: Blog Talk Radio Interview March 9

<snipped>

Host: Let’s just do this now. Did you take a polygraph?

Clint Dunn: No. No, I haven’t taken a polygraph. They’ve told me from the very beginning that I’m not a suspect, and they have no reason to look at me, and I told them right very beginning, “Hey, you need to do what you need to do to me. Put me in a polygraph, or do whatever, but clearing me, that way, we can find out what’s going on.”, but they’ve known from the beginning that I’m not nobody to look at, so I haven’t done a polygraph or anything.

Host: Where were you the day that she went missing?

Clint Dunn: I was at home. I was in my apartment and I didn’t leave all day long. My back was, I had back spasms that day. My back was tore up, but I didn’t leave the apartment all day long. I was there all day.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-transcript-clint-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-9/

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/10/bring-them-home-now-exclusive-clint-dunn-speaks-mssing-carla-cook-family



BUMPED


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 01, 2011, 06:52:00 PM

I cannot comprehend why an official flyer was not distributed early on by investigators ... an official flyer with a photo of Shawn and the vehicle that Shawn was driving on the morning of December 27th as well as identifying the area indicated by the cell phone pings.  Could there have been at lease one witness to a disposal of a body .... at least one witness who did not realize at the time what he/she was observing.

Think about the Kyron Horman case and ... Terri Horman has yet to be officially declared a person of interest.

Janet

+++++

Kyron Horman Case

Police hope stepmom's photo will help spark more tips for Kyron Horman investigation
Published: Friday, June 18, 2010, 5:25 PM
Updated: Monday, June 21, 2010, 10:15 AM


Kyron Horman's stepmother was the last known person to see the 7-year-old on the day that he disappeared, said Capt. Jason Gates, and authorities hope her photo might help jog the memories of other witnesses.

The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office is distributing a flier showing photos of Terri Moulton Horman and the type of pickup she is thought to have driven on June 4, the day the second-grader disappeared from Skyline School.

"Sometimes in jogging peoples memories, sometimes it's the other things about that day or what was going on around them that will jog their memory with anything else they might have seen with regard to Kyron," Gates said.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/police_issue_questionnaire_ask.html


New flier asks residents if they saw Horman, Spicher
Story Published: Aug 10, 2010 at 3:20 PM PST
Story Updated: Aug 10, 2010 at 10:15 PM PST


PORTLAND, Ore. - Investigators working on the Kyron Horman case released a new flier Tuesday that asks residents near Kyron's elementary school if they saw his stepmother, Terri Horman, and her close friend, DeDe Spicher the day he disappeared.

The two-page flier includes pictures of Horman, Spicher and the white pickup truck Horman was driving on June 4 the day Kyron vanished, and in it police ask residents if they saw the two or the pickup between the hours of 9:45 a.m. and 1 p.m. that day.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100392859.html



BUMPED


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 01, 2011, 07:03:50 PM

It is three months into the investigation and Pete Kampfer has messed up time and time again.  Why wasn't Kampfer replaced long ago as spokesperson for the investigation or ... why hasn't the Task Force yet to establish a process that would ensure clarity and accuracy in media statements encompassing updates in the Hailey Dunn investigation.

Janet


BUMPED


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on April 01, 2011, 07:46:14 PM
Who would CCity replace PK with?  I don't think his inability to be an effective liaison for the Hailey Dunn case necessarily would cause him to be fired from the job he is actually responsible for.  Evidently LE doesn't feel they have anyone to be the spokesmen and hiring someone else would take away resources from a town that is already broke. 

This town was/is not equipped to handle a crime with this amount of national media coverage.  PK's blunders wouldn't seem so massive had this not been a case where a missing child's life is the focus but I am sure that the locals are perfectly satisfied with his job performance on other issues up until now.  I don't even think the locals pay much attention to what he says because they have "better" info than he does most of the time and are not under the same legal restraints as he is with what they say.

Do I think PK is a doofus, yes.  I just don't think the town has the resources to replace him with a more polished person.   ::CowboySmiley::

Fired?

Flutter ... I never said anything of Pete Kampfer being fired from his position of City Manager. 
However ... if Kampfer is not qualified to be an effective media liason he needs to step down from this one function of his job description or be provided with guidance from within the Task Force.

Nevetheless there are strategies that could be applied if CCity does not have a effective communicator to serve as a media spokesperson for the Hailey Dunn investigation.

1.  The Task Force could provide Pete Kampfer with a prepared statement with the Haley Dunn updates that are to be released to the media ... a statement of clarity and accuracy.

2.  The Task Force could provide a statement of clarity and accuracy directly to the media.

3.  (starwynn's strategy)

Janet

++++++

You know, I've had it.  I actually emailed their chief of police today about this idiot, Kampfer.  I know they're busy, but SURELY they can take two hours out to prepare a statement and read it themselves rather than having this absolute brain-dead guy talk for them.



Janet,  I never said you did.  I was responding in general to the opinions offered by several that he ought to step down as the spokesman for LE.  Unfortunately, it appears the the Task Force doesn't have a better spokesman or even care that what comes from PK is often inaccurate at best.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 01, 2011, 08:35:09 PM

Janet,  I never said you did.  I was responding in general to the opinions offered by several that he ought to step down as the spokesman for LE.  Unfortunately, it appears the the Task Force doesn't have a better spokesman or even care that what comes from PK is often inaccurate at best.


Sadly ... I agree or ... a process would have been established sometime in the past three months ... a process that would effectively provided clear and accurate media updates.  Logic dicates that prepared statements from the Task Force afforded to media outlets or read by a member of the Task Force or Pete Kampfer would have sufficed.  It is not rocket science.

Flutter ... when I consider the lack of response from the Task Force lack in regards to the inaccuracies forthcoming from their media liason ... I am concerned what is going on behind the scenes in the past three months in the Hailey Dunn case.

I hope that Shawn's arrest is imminent but somehow I don't think so.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 01, 2011, 08:38:58 PM
 ::HelloKitty::

Hi joesamas mama

Whatcha think?

I hope you are having a good day.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on April 01, 2011, 09:26:57 PM
I do rem. Connie Jones speaking on the show, BTH that night ! I was sort of surprised, but with this family, who knows ???

Naomi's Mother, IMO should step back & not step on any toes. She should have known better in the beginning. This child is Connie's blood, NOT Patricia's.

I totally agree.  I don't thinks he realizes how inappropriate she is being.  It's one thing to proclaim your love for Hailey.  (Who wouldn't do that - she looks like she was a delight and a firecracker all at once.)  But in these things you have to be VERY clear and careful how you present yourself.  I still hate myself for this, but think she was just in it for the attention.  She could as easily have called Clint or Naomi or gone there.  But she didn't; she chose the photo-op, as did Salazar.  I just don't know - I personally just can't seem to buy this.  Something seems off to me - like she doth protest too much?  Maybe I'm a horrible, jaded, cynic.

From a facebook page (  https://www.facebook.com/find.hailey.dunn/posts/140062562731316  )

Patricia Trichel

clints sister malinda dunn stood with me n ask questions also n bevins said sorry he did not know himself til morning of confrence.also to anyone who thinks im not haileys g-ma.lol.......she is my family also i just paid for clints divorce.... also i am the one who fought for custody of hailey a year ago for clint i paid lawyers cps was involved haileys school was involved.Tia Wilson out of lubbock texas i paid to represent clint n hailey.oh that is gibson n karver law firm in lubbock for those who want to verify that also if u want to verify cps school n my fight for her then just as now..............call her school r her teacher they were all involved........please LUCY~ next time u want facts make sure u have them ALL before u speak!!!!!!!!!!!!~To all of you i know you love hailey i dont need clint n naomi to be married to love hailey as my granddaughter.........family happens~"you r all family now and love hailey n she is in all of your hearts!~with that"i believe you get my point!~?

And also (a couple of posts before it):

Patricia Trichel ok my info is from Pete Kampfer .......he"Peter" asked Billie n her lawyer to let clint know.........1st.wow ok.2 here is his office number verify it.325-728-5331.~I rarely post but always read and you have no proof i have ever lied to yall once.....I am only looking out for my kids n grandchildren.~as a mom n the love for hailey you all have,i know you you understand me.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on April 01, 2011, 09:32:34 PM
Who would CCity replace PK with?  I don't think his inability to be an effective liaison for the Hailey Dunn case necessarily would cause him to be fired from the job he is actually responsible for.  Evidently LE doesn't feel they have anyone to be the spokesmen and hiring someone else would take away resources from a town that is already broke. 

This town was/is not equipped to handle a crime with this amount of national media coverage.  PK's blunders wouldn't seem so massive had this not been a case where a missing child's life is the focus but I am sure that the locals are perfectly satisfied with his job performance on other issues up until now.  I don't even think the locals pay much attention to what he says because they have "better" info than he does most of the time and are not under the same legal restraints as he is with what they say.

Do I think PK is a doofus, yes.  I just don't think the town has the resources to replace him with a more polished person.   ::CowboySmiley::

Fired?

Flutter ... I never said anything of Pete Kampfer being fired from his position of City Manager.  However ... if Kampfer is not qualified to be an effective media liason he needs to step down from this one function of his job description or be provided with guidance from within the Task Force.

Nevetheless there are strategies that could be applied if CCity does not have a effective communicator to serve as a media spokesperson for the Hailey Dunn investigation.

1.  The Task Force could provide Pete Kampfer with a prepared statement with the Haley Dunn updates that are to be released to the media ... a statement of clarity and accuracy.

2.  The Task Force could provide a statement of clarity and accuracy directly to the media.

3.  (starwynn's strategy)

Janet

++++++

You know, I've had it.  I actually emailed their chief of police today about this idiot, Kampfer.  I know they're busy, but SURELY they can take two hours out to prepare a statement and read it themselves rather than having this absolute brain-dead guy talk for them.



I agree - he could be a great city manager; apparently he's pretty popular in that position, and I have read "around" that he has done a good job about old abandoned buildings, etc.  But as the spokesman for this - .... not so much.  It might even be that he's being given scattershot information and trying to interpret and just isn't good at it.  But jeez...  I don't see why they don't just announce less - once a month, twice a month max, and have the police chief do it like a zillion other cities do.  One 10 minute speech to update us.  Heck - even type it out and distribute it as a press release instead of a speech.  That way they could avoid the confusion that inevitably ensues every time PK opens his mouth off script.  Surely they could manage that, I would think.  Anything but this - it is making everyone worry about their competence, and it's causing a lot of craziness that probably could be avoided.  And here I thought the press and whatnot surrounding the missing little boy down here in Houston was bad!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 02, 2011, 12:04:26 AM
What am I not getting?  I would have thought the number of searchers would have increased following the confirmation that investigators have determined that Hailey Dunn ... in all probability ... is deceased.

Janet

++++++

Search Effort Dwindles After News That Hailey Dunn Could Be Dead
By Ashlei King, KTXS News
POSTED: 5:26 pm CDT April 1, 2011
UPDATED: 7:21 pm CDT April 1, 2011


COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Searchers gathered to look for missing 13-year-old Hailey Dunn for the first time since investigators publicly announced they have reason to believe she's dead.

Aside from the search party coordinators, only one other person showed up.

“Hailey Dunn is somewhere and until we bring her home this is not over," Patricia Trichel, search coordinator, said. “We had one searcher show up today. We need searchers really bad. We need people to come out and help us search."

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/27403999/detail.html


Kampfer Clarifies Hailey Dunn Statements, Admits Death 'Not Conclusive'
By Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 12:38 pm CDT March 30, 2011
UPDATED: 7:15 pm CDT March 30, 2011


<snipped>

Kampfer acknowledged there was no specific breaking news Wednesday morning. Kampfer said that his statement was not intended to be interpreted as an absolute conclusion.

Kampfer said he met with the family members Wednesday to explain to them what law enforcement authorities believe to be true concerning Hailey. However, he pointed out that nothing is confirmed.

He said he told the family members that Hailey could have been kidnapped and could be held under duress – “but it’s not likely,” he said.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27372485/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on April 02, 2011, 01:53:44 AM
I do rem. Connie Jones speaking on the show, BTH that night ! I was sort of surprised, but with this family, who knows ???

Naomi's Mother, IMO should step back & not step on any toes. She should have known better in the beginning. This child is Connie's blood, NOT Patricia's.

I totally agree.  I don't thinks he realizes how inappropriate she is being.  It's one thing to proclaim your love for Hailey.  (Who wouldn't do that - she looks like she was a delight and a firecracker all at once.)  But in these things you have to be VERY clear and careful how you present yourself.  I still hate myself for this, but think she was just in it for the attention.  She could as easily have called Clint or Naomi or gone there.  But she didn't; she chose the photo-op, as did Salazar.  I just don't know - I personally just can't seem to buy this.  Something seems off to me - like she doth protest too much?  Maybe I'm a horrible, jaded, cynic.

From a facebook page (  https://www.facebook.com/find.hailey.dunn/posts/140062562731316  )

Patricia Trichel

clints sister malinda dunn stood with me n ask questions also n bevins said sorry he did not know himself til morning of confrence.also to anyone who thinks im not haileys g-ma.lol.......she is my family also i just paid for clints divorce.... also i am the one who fought for custody of hailey a year ago for clint i paid lawyers cps was involved haileys school was involved.Tia Wilson out of lubbock texas i paid to represent clint n hailey.oh that is gibson n karver law firm in lubbock for those who want to verify that also if u want to verify cps school n my fight for her then just as now..............call her school r her teacher they were all involved........please LUCY~ next time u want facts make sure u have them ALL before u speak!!!!!!!!!!!!~To all of you i know you love hailey i dont need clint n naomi to be married to love hailey as my granddaughter.........family happens~"you r all family now and love hailey n she is in all of your hearts!~with that"i believe you get my point!~?

And also (a couple of posts before it):

Patricia Trichel ok my info is from Pete Kampfer .......he"Peter" asked Billie n her lawyer to let clint know.........1st.wow ok.2 here is his office number verify it.325-728-5331.~I rarely post but always read and you have no proof i have ever lied to yall once.....I am only looking out for my kids n grandchildren.~as a mom n the love for hailey you all have,i know you you understand me.
There are 2 words to describe Patrica, and they are:

CONTROL FREAK.

Like Connie Jones,  I would be very hurt at how Patricia is taking thngs over. She should not be doing this. She should ralize how hurtful she is being, and accept a proper place in all of this. I think that EVERYONE related to Hailey through blood has enough 2 worry about it, without nonrelated, do-gooders butting in this "family" situation.

Sad, IMO how some must be the center of attention, even at the cost of a missing child.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on April 02, 2011, 01:56:37 AM
Please do not take me out of context. MANY people, not related to Hailey love her. All I am saying is that is inappropriate for Patricia to be addressing  media, heading up searchers, and BRAGGING about the $$ she has paid for various things, which were NOT her responsiblity, only a way of enabling some......


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on April 02, 2011, 02:21:25 AM
I think you are right, LEP.  Connie Jones said on the Bring Them Home Now radio
show that she and Connie Ostrander, Billie's mother are best friends.
She said that they were all hopeful of Clint and Billie getting back together and
that was Hailey and David's hope too.
Patricia would have none of that because she wanted Clint to stay with Naomi.
Patricia had recently come into some money from a settlement.
I would like to know what happened to Naomi's other three children that she left
in North Carolina.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: melisb on April 02, 2011, 09:03:07 AM
Naomi has three other children?  Dad(s) have them?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on April 02, 2011, 09:11:46 AM
What am I not getting?  I would have thought the number of searchers would have increased following the confirmation that investigators have determined that Hailey Dunn ... in all probability ... is deceased.

Janet

++++++

Search Effort Dwindles After News That Hailey Dunn Could Be Dead
By Ashlei King, KTXS News
POSTED: 5:26 pm CDT April 1, 2011
UPDATED: 7:21 pm CDT April 1, 2011


COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Searchers gathered to look for missing 13-year-old Hailey Dunn for the first time since investigators publicly announced they have reason to believe she's dead.

Aside from the search party coordinators, only one other person showed up.

“Hailey Dunn is somewhere and until we bring her home this is not over," Patricia Trichel, search coordinator, said. “We had one searcher show up today. We need searchers really bad. We need people to come out and help us search."

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/27403999/detail.html


Kampfer Clarifies Hailey Dunn Statements, Admits Death 'Not Conclusive'
By Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 12:38 pm CDT March 30, 2011
UPDATED: 7:15 pm CDT March 30, 2011


<snipped>

Kampfer acknowledged there was no specific breaking news Wednesday morning. Kampfer said that his statement was not intended to be interpreted as an absolute conclusion.

Kampfer said he met with the family members Wednesday to explain to them what law enforcement authorities believe to be true concerning Hailey. However, he pointed out that nothing is confirmed.

He said he told the family members that Hailey could have been kidnapped and could be held under duress – “but it’s not likely,” he said.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27372485/detail.html


Janet,

Despite what has been the "official line" of looking for a live Hailey, even when I was there in early February, the places being searched were not places that would harbor a living being.  We were looking for remains or evidence of where a crime had been committed. 

Yes, we did we hope, beyond hope, that a live Hailey would somehow be returned to us and that we were only looking in places to determine where Hailey "was not," however I felt from the initial briefing that most felt that Hailey's fate had already been determined. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 02, 2011, 10:54:28 AM
What am I not getting?  I would have thought the number of searchers would have increased following the confirmation that investigators have determined that Hailey Dunn ... in all probability ... is deceased.

Janet

++++++

Search Effort Dwindles After News That Hailey Dunn Could Be Dead
By Ashlei King, KTXS News
POSTED: 5:26 pm CDT April 1, 2011
UPDATED: 7:21 pm CDT April 1, 2011


COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Searchers gathered to look for missing 13-year-old Hailey Dunn for the first time since investigators publicly announced they have reason to believe she's dead.

Aside from the search party coordinators, only one other person showed up.

“Hailey Dunn is somewhere and until we bring her home this is not over," Patricia Trichel, search coordinator, said. “We had one searcher show up today. We need searchers really bad. We need people to come out and help us search."

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/27403999/detail.html


Kampfer Clarifies Hailey Dunn Statements, Admits Death 'Not Conclusive'
By Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 12:38 pm CDT March 30, 2011
UPDATED: 7:15 pm CDT March 30, 2011


<snipped>

Kampfer acknowledged there was no specific breaking news Wednesday morning. Kampfer said that his statement was not intended to be interpreted as an absolute conclusion.

Kampfer said he met with the family members Wednesday to explain to them what law enforcement authorities believe to be true concerning Hailey. However, he pointed out that nothing is confirmed.

He said he told the family members that Hailey could have been kidnapped and could be held under duress – “but it’s not likely,” he said.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/27372485/detail.html


Janet,

Despite what has been the "official line" of looking for a live Hailey, even when I was there in early February, the places being searched were not places that would harbor a living being.  We were looking for remains or evidence of where a crime had been committed. 

Yes, we did we hope, beyond hope, that a live Hailey would somehow be returned to us and that we were only looking in places to determine where Hailey "was not," however I felt from the initial briefing that most felt that Hailey's fate had already been determined.
 

Flutter

I did not realize that you had been a participant in the search for Hailey Dunn.  Thank you.

It still does not make sense to me why the search effort has "dwindled" as a result of Pete Kampfer's media confirmation that it is the belief of investigators that Hailey is "most likely" deceased.  I would have thought this affirmation would have been the catalyst to encourage searcher to continue their efforts.

Janet



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: texasmom on April 02, 2011, 01:04:02 PM
I think you are right, LEP.  Connie Jones said on the Bring Them Home Now radio
show that she and Connie Ostrander, Billie's mother are best friends.
She said that they were all hopeful of Clint and Billie getting back together and
that was Hailey and David's hope too.
Patricia would have none of that because she wanted Clint to stay with Naomi.
Patricia had recently come into some money from a settlement.
I would like to know what happened to Naomi's other three children that she left
in North Carolina.

I agree with LEP too, and I didn't know about Naomi's other children!   ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on April 02, 2011, 01:30:11 PM
::snipping2::
Despite what has been the "official line" of looking for a live Hailey, even when I was there in early February, the places being searched were not places that would harbor a living being.  We were looking for remains or evidence of where a crime had been committed. 

Yes, we did we hope, beyond hope, that a live Hailey would somehow be returned to us and that we were only looking in places to determine where Hailey "was not," however I felt from the initial briefing that most felt that Hailey's fate had already been determined. 

Thank you, flutter.  I really can't understand why people seem to be so flustered by the announcement by LE via PK.  Did they really expect to find Hailey living out int he pastures after three months?  Really?  I will be ashamed for people if they stop searching because the reward might be a dead Hailey.  Doesn't a dead Hailey deserve to be found just as much as a live one?  I really hope it was just a fluke -  maybe people spent the first weekend of really good weather with their families, and will come out today for the car wash and searches.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on April 02, 2011, 01:35:34 PM
I read something interesting on Topix yesterday - that PT would be now heading up the Hailey searches.  I personally think this is a huge conflict of interests and very unwise, nevermind that I don't think she's the type to lead in an organized and logical fashion.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/colorado-city-tx/T1FA1VMHCUGFML4NE/p351  post #7136 regarding PT as "head searcher".

I am really starting to worry about the integrity of evidence found in these searches if family starts to head them up.  If LE won't tell "family anything, because there is too much interweaving in there, how could we possibly trust them to head the searches?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on April 02, 2011, 01:55:07 PM
I read something interesting on Topix yesterday - that PT would be now heading up the Hailey searches.  I personally think this is a huge conflict of interests and very unwise, nevermind that I don't think she's the type to lead in an organized and logical fashion.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/colorado-city-tx/T1FA1VMHCUGFML4NE/p351  post #7136 regarding PT as "head searcher".

I am really starting to worry about the integrity of evidence found in these searches if family starts to head them up.  If LE won't tell "family anything, because there is too much interweaving in there, how could we possibly trust them to head the searches?
MORE of her "control freak" personality. I agree with u, she should NOT be heading up searches.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on April 02, 2011, 01:57:17 PM
I think you are right, LEP.  Connie Jones said on the Bring Them Home Now radio
show that she and Connie Ostrander, Billie's mother are best friends.
She said that they were all hopeful of Clint and Billie getting back together and
that was Hailey and David's hope too.
Patricia would have none of that because she wanted Clint to stay with Naomi.Patricia had recently come into some money from a settlement.
I would like to know what happened to Naomi's other three children that she left
in North Carolina.
..
My understanding was that Billie asked Clint to leave, then began seeing Shawn very soon after. They have been apart for three years.
If it was over, it was over, regardless of whatever Patricia wanted or didn't want.
Billie stated she is in love with Shawn. Clint is with Naomi and they have a child.
What I am trying to say is that Patricia was not an impediment to Clint and Billie getting back together. Sure the respective MIL's wanted everyone to get back together even if was just for the sake of the children , but, I am a MIL and I don't get to vote and my opinion on these things has never been solicited and I can just imagine how welcome anything I say would be received.
I just can't be critical of Patricia, I'll save my critical remarks for Billie and Shawn.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 02, 2011, 02:07:07 PM
I read something interesting on Topix yesterday - that PT would be now heading up the Hailey searches.  I personally think this is a huge conflict of interests  and very unwise, nevermind that I don't think she's the type to lead in an organized and logical fashion.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/colorado-city-tx/T1FA1VMHCUGFML4NE/p351  post #7136 regarding PT as "head searcher".

I am really starting to worry about the integrity of evidence found in these searches if family starts to head them up.  If LE won't tell "family anything, because there is too much interweaving in there, how could we possibly trust them to head the searches?

starwynn ... I agree.

However ... I think that maybe LE's hands are tied.

If I knew this little girl in any capacity and ... official searches were no longer taking place ... I know I would be driven to compile the clues pertaining to Shawn's revealed actions and whereabouts on the morning of December 27 ... devise a plan and ... then attempt to recruit others who were on the same page.

My first course of action would be distributing and posting flyers in the Colorado City/Dunn/Snyder area and then along the route Sahwn took to Big Spring.  The flyers would reveal a photo of Shawn Adkins as well as the discription of Billie's vehicle.

Maybe ... just maybe a witness would come forward ... a witness who had not been aware of the significance of what he/she had observed on the morning of December 27th.

Janet   


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 02, 2011, 02:11:52 PM
I'm going to chime in on the discussion about Hailey's search efforts dwindling which occurs in many cases after a certain period of time, sad but true.  This case has hit that period of time where it has in way too many other cases where the cameras go away, there are POI's in an investigation but not being fully cooperative, investigators having some evidence but not enough, family conflict, unauthorized individuals not acting in accordance to guidelines and/or acting with a hidden agenda for whatever reason & yes even some political maneuvering clouding what should be the goal of everyone.  There are too many variables on the ground that many cannot see or comprehend fully from afar that attribute to what appears to be a lack of interest, effort or even considered a debacle.   Now, that is not to say any of it is acceptable but these are factors that may exist in this case and countless others.  That being said, regardless of what PK has publicly stated, the investigation is ongoing & there is more known than the public is or will be aware of for a host of reasons.  I agree regarding conflicting statements being made is frustrating & I cannot agree that they have been of any value in this case, sometimes wiser heads prevail in limiting those comments to avoid just what has occurred in this case.   At the same time,  I have always respected & understood why decisions are made to withhold information in a criminal investigation, not the least of which not to enable a person of interest to alter evidence or flee prior to apprehension.

I want you all to remind yourselves of the Caylee Anthony case, one I can also speak to with some experience on and off these pages.  In her case, we all knew almost immediately that it was highly probable her mother killed her & even her family's actions thereafter proved to be very questionable, if not criminal after the fact.  Florida, being the state this crime occurred has the most liberal Sunshine Law in the US (public information act) which enabled us to be aware of an enormous (and that is an understatement) amount of discovery released to the public.   The OCSO (Orange County Sheriff's Office) and cooperating LE agencies (FBI, etc) in that case also handled public statements & the investigation in an exemplary fashion from start to finish.  This is not to say that their meticulous & tireless investigation did not have to endure many obstacles including the main suspect's family and others attempting to derail the investigation in a spectacle of the likes the public has never seen before & may not ever again.    In all fairness, Orlando immediately had resources many other smaller communities do not have the luxury of, so keep that in mind when we are dealing with cases such as Hailey's that occurred in a small rural community.   Even with an abundance of resources, the complexity of the case was mind blowing & overwhelming at times but it prevailed the obstacles.  Additionally, Caylee's case went national and viral not only due to her being an adorable beautiful baby girl but due to the "circus of characters"  surrounding her case, many despised due to their conduct, #1 on that list being the only named suspect, her diabolic mother.

Casey Anthony was initially arrested for lying to LE and child neglect, we all know the latter charge was because she didnt report Caylee missing for 31 days but her grandmother called 911 on July 15, 2008.   Casey was bonded out in August 2008, later arrested again but for economic charges and again released on bond.  Casey's indictment on felony murder and other charges did not occur until Oct 14th, nearly 3 months after BUT it also occurred without Caylee's whereabouts discovered yet.  After 5 long drama filled months finally Caylee's remains were discovered, the death penalty was put back on the table & we are just shy of 1-1/2 months when Casey's murder trial begins...one which I rather confidently have faith a conviction will occur.

I guess what I am concluding to say is...hold Hailey in your hearts & keep faith that justice will prevail  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 02, 2011, 02:29:10 PM
Clint and Billie

Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Clint Dunn’s Mother, Connie Jones, Radio Interview Feb 23

<snipped>

Host: People have sort of a perception of Billie that she doesn’t show emotion. Has she always been this way? Has she always not shown emotion?

Connie: Well, I’ve seen her cry over wanting Clint back.

<snipped>

Host: Has he been known to violently hurt people?

Connie: Well, he’s threatened me and my son, and the police down here in Snyder, Texas, they know that, because they come over here and listened to the tape, ’cause it was on my answering machine, and he threatened both Clint and I.

Host: What did he say?
 
Connie: He said he was gonna get a gun and come over here and kill everybody in my house, and it was just me and Clint at the time, and he thought Clint and Billie Jean were still seeing each other. Clint was through with her. He didn’t want her. He didn’t want her anymore.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-transcript-clint-dunns-mother-connie-jones-radio-interview-feb-23/

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/24/bring-them-home-now-exclusive-hailey-dunns-grandma-and-aunt-livemisisng-laurie-partridge-family


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 02, 2011, 03:22:30 PM
Could Clint still have feelings for Billie?

Could this be the reason that Clint distances Shawn from implication in the disappearance of his daughter?

Could it be that Clint realizes if Shawn goes down ... Billie will also go down in regards to illegal wrongdoing that may or may not have to do with Hailey?

Could Billie have been a participant in the distribution of child porn?

Could it be that Tamikosmom needs a break from the Hailey Dunn case?

I am off.  Have a good Saturday all.

Psalm 118:24
This is the day that the Lord has made, let us rejoice and be glad in it.

 
Janet
12:20 PM PT

+++++++

Naomi and Clint

Part 2: Missing Texas teen Hailey Dunn’s uncle Richy Cooper speaks out


“Are Clint and Naomi still together or are they not together?

“As far as that goes I can’t comment on whether or not he’s actually with her now. They are living together in my mother-in-law’s home as of today. Nobody knows what tomorrow brings. I hope for the baby’s sake that they manage to stay together.

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/part-2-missing-texas-teen-hailey-dunn-s-uncle-richy-cooper-speaks-out


No Billie Bashing

Part 2: Missing Texas teen Hailey Dunn’s uncle Richy Cooper speaks out

What is Billie like?

Asked what Billie’s like, Richy said, “Clint doesn’t want anyone saying anything bad about her and I’m not going to bash her

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/part-2-missing-texas-teen-hailey-dunn-s-uncle-richy-cooper-speaks-out


Part 4: Missing Texas teen Hailey Dunn’s uncle Richy Cooper speaks out

What does Richy think happened to Hailey?

"I don’t think Billie was involved but I think she knows. I think she knows the what; I don’t think she knows the where, when or how but I think she knows what happened. That’s my opinion.

“Clint’s probably going to beat me up over this because that means Hailey is not fixing to walk down the street with ribbons in her hair if I’m right,” Richy said.

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/part-4-missing-texas-teen-hailey-dunn-s-uncle-richy-cooper-speaks-out




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: yuknomenot on April 02, 2011, 08:15:01 PM
I read something interesting on Topix yesterday - that PT would be now heading up the Hailey searches.  I personally think this is a huge conflict of interests and very unwise, nevermind that I don't think she's the type to lead in an organized and logical fashion.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/colorado-city-tx/T1FA1VMHCUGFML4NE/p351  post #7136 regarding PT as "head searcher".

I am really starting to worry about the integrity of evidence found in these searches if family starts to head them up.  If LE won't tell "family anything, because there is too much interweaving in there, how could we possibly trust them to head the searches?
and

I saw this linked on topix today and thought it was odd.  The following is only an excerpt; the message in its entirety, including a statement concerning its transcription, can be found at the link provided.

Excerpt:
"As the search for missing C City teen Hailey Dunn continues, law enforcement officials are urging volunteers and search teams to use extra caution.
Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs told KBST today that, although volunteers are appreciated, the law still has to be followed throughout the investigation.
Rumors of non-authorized searches on private property, damage to private property, and personal friendships with any suspect or person of interest will be taken seriously.
Anyone who breaks the law during a volunteer search for Hailey Dunn can and will face criminal charges."

Link:  http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/03/28/hailey-dunn-transcript-law-enforcement-announcement-to-searchers-kbst-am-1490-radio-march-24-2011/
One explains the other, imo.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on April 02, 2011, 09:58:45 PM
What concerns me is the Colorado City's total disregard for the family of Hailey Dunn. Billie and Shawn's actions have obviously not endeared them to anyone on this case nor has Clint's criminal record. Add the fact that the family is disfunctional and poor. How nice it must be for those in charge of this investigation to blatantly disregard this family to the point of not allowing them into yesterday's "press conference". I am sure that no one is jumping through hoops to update the family or offer any sort of explanations as to the status of the case or lack there of. The city manager himself stated that "he just wanted this over with so that he could get on with his life". My worry is that they are going to do as little as possible because they don't feel that they have anyone to answer to. My worry is that if Shawn or someone else killed Hailey and they bring this case to trial, that some media hungry defense attorney is going to shoot holes all over the place and the suspect will walk. Hailey deserves the same attention as any child regardless of who her parents are, what they have done, or how much money they do not have.

Sebastian

Investigators and Hailey's parents are not on the same page.  Investigators have determined that Hailey Dunn is deceased.  Investigators have determined that Shawn Adkins is the main suspect in the case.  Clint and Billie's do not or will not concur with investigators on either issue.

Could it be that there are respective underlying reasons why the focus of Hailey's parents does not reflect the focus of investigators and ... could it be that those respective underlying reasons have nothing to do with the truth emerging in regards to the happenings encompassing their daughter?

It is my hope that investigators are committed advocates for Hailey.  It is my hope that dots are being connected behind the scenes ... a strong case against Shawn is coming together and ... justice will prevail for Hailey.  However ... my instinct tells me it is not going to happen.

IMO

Janet


Hi Janet,
I have a feeling that the locals (those with criminal records and those without) do not think too highly of their local LE. I also wonder how much effort has been put out with regards to pursuing ALL avenues to find Hailey. I think one of the things that bothers me the most is the towns population. I see posts constantly on facebook how locals drive by Billies house to see who is there and not there etc. I have a hard time believing that Shawn or anyone else for that matter did something in that tiny little town and nobody saw anything.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 02, 2011, 10:23:07 PM
What concerns me is the Colorado City's total disregard for the family of Hailey Dunn. Billie and Shawn's actions have obviously not endeared them to anyone on this case nor has Clint's criminal record. Add the fact that the family is disfunctional and poor. How nice it must be for those in charge of this investigation to blatantly disregard this family to the point of not allowing them into yesterday's "press conference". I am sure that no one is jumping through hoops to update the family or offer any sort of explanations as to the status of the case or lack there of. The city manager himself stated that "he just wanted this over with so that he could get on with his life". My worry is that they are going to do as little as possible because they don't feel that they have anyone to answer to. My worry is that if Shawn or someone else killed Hailey and they bring this case to trial, that some media hungry defense attorney is going to shoot holes all over the place and the suspect will walk. Hailey deserves the same attention as any child regardless of who her parents are, what they have done, or how much money they do not have.

Sebastian

Investigators and Hailey's parents are not on the same page.  Investigators have determined that Hailey Dunn is deceased.  Investigators have determined that Shawn Adkins is the main suspect in the case.  Clint and Billie's do not or will not concur with investigators on either issue.

Could it be that there are respective underlying reasons why the focus of Hailey's parents does not reflect the focus of investigators and ... could it be that those respective underlying reasons have nothing to do with the truth emerging in regards to the happenings encompassing their daughter?

It is my hope that investigators are committed advocates for Hailey.  It is my hope that dots are being connected behind the scenes ... a strong case against Shawn is coming together and ... justice will prevail for Hailey.  However ... my instinct tells me it is not going to happen.

IMO

Janet


Hi Janet,
I have a feeling that the locals (those with criminal records and those without) do not think too highly of their local LE. I also wonder how much effort has been put out with regards to pursuing ALL avenues to find Hailey. I think one of the things that bothers me the most is the towns population. I see posts constantly on facebook how locals drive by Billies house to see who is there and not there etc. I have a hard time believing that Shawn or anyone else for that matter did something in that tiny little town and nobody saw anything.

On December 27th at 6:30 AM ... the residence of Colorado City were not paying any attention to the one minute happening between the door of Billie's home and the trunk of Billie's vehicle.

Sebastian ... you and I are in the same book ... we both have a heartfelt desire that justice prevails for Hailey.   However ... we are not on the same page in regards to Shawn Adkins ... the person who investigators have named the official suspect.

Considering the truth has not been revealed ... our differing perspectives are OK.

Janet

+++++++


Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
By Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 2:17 pm CST January 12, 2011


<snipped>

Adkins twice refused to take polygraph examinations. Then he agreed to a polygraph, but after providing some inconsistent information, he ended this polygraph by walking out. Officials said he failed the polygraph, particularly concerning the whereabouts of Hailey.

<snipped>

One inconsistency in Adkins’ statements involved his employment on Dec. 27. Adkins told investigators that he was fired that day, but authorities contacted the employer, who said that Adkins was a good employee and that he hadn’t been fired.

Nevertheless, Adkins left his place of employment at 6:10 a.m. on the morning of Dec. 27 and told investigators that he went straight to his mother’s house in Big Spring. However, cell phone records indicate that Adkins’ cell phone was in contact with cell towers in the Colorado City area from 6:35 a.m. until 6:56 a.m., during the time when he said he was traveling to Big Spring.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 02, 2011, 10:25:13 PM
SELF-EDIT - MY LAST POST

the residence of Colorado City s/b the residents of Colorado City


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on April 02, 2011, 11:30:16 PM
Hi Janet,
I have definately not ruled Shawn out, believe me! From the way it looks, everything points to him. Having said this, I would just like to see LE put the time and effort into every possible scenario, including interviewing sex offenders in the area. If and when this goes to trial, I want the charges to stick. I am so darn sick and tired of these cases stalling while the perps are walking free and the missing person is still unaccounted for. I keep remembering when I was searching on the internet for anything that might give a clue into where Amber was. I spent quite a bit of time on the doenetwork. You start reading these cases and seeing the bodies (some of which are morgue photos) and you start to get really jaded. I know people in Texas, I lived there years ago. I know how much Texans like justice. This gives me hope!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 03, 2011, 12:10:26 AM
Hi Janet,
I have definately not ruled Shawn out, believe me! From the way it looks, everything points to him. Having said this, I would just like to see LE put the time and effort into every possible scenario, including interviewing sex offenders in the area. If and when this goes to trial, I want the charges to stick. I am so darn sick and tired of these cases stalling while the perps are walking free and the missing person is still unaccounted for. I keep remembering when I was searching on the internet for anything that might give a clue into where Amber was. I spent quite a bit of time on the doenetwork. You start reading these cases and seeing the bodies (some of which are morgue photos) and you start to get really jaded. I know people in Texas, I lived there years ago. I know how much Texans like justice. This gives me hope!

I do agree.

Somehow I suspect that Shawn will be charged in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn because the prosecutor is aware that all possible avenues were not investigated ... all possible suspects were not requested to take polygraphs ...

In other words ... without a body ... it is a given that the defense will have a field day poking holes in the prosecutors case.

IMO

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 03, 2011, 12:15:43 AM
SELF EDIT - MY LAST POST

Shawn will be charged s/b Shawn will NOT be charged

+++++

Time to hit the sack.

Good Night All

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on April 03, 2011, 12:51:31 AM
Could Clint still have feelings for Billie?

Could this be the reason that Clint distances Shawn from implication in the disappearance of his daughter?

Could it be that Clint realizes if Shawn goes down ... Billie will also go down in regards to illegal wrongdoing that may or may not have to do with Hailey?

Could Billie have been a participant in the distribution of child porn?

Could it be that Tamikosmom needs a break from the Hailey Dunn case?

I am off.  Have a good Saturday all.

Psalm 118:24
This is the day that the Lord has made, let us rejoice and be glad in it.

 
Janet
12:20 PM PT

+++++++ ::snipping2::

The first bold made me giggle, and the second bold made me cheer!  :)

You know, Janet -  I am under the belief that unless they are mortal enemies, the biomom of a first baby will always be important emotionally to a biodad.  He hasn't distanced himself from her, for God knows what reason, but I suspect it has to do with some combination of closet skeletons and a desire to still be allowed in David's and Hailey's lives.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on April 03, 2011, 12:53:06 AM
I read something interesting on Topix yesterday - that PT would be now heading up the Hailey searches.  I personally think this is a huge conflict of interests and very unwise, nevermind that I don't think she's the type to lead in an organized and logical fashion.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/colorado-city-tx/T1FA1VMHCUGFML4NE/p351  post #7136 regarding PT as "head searcher".

I am really starting to worry about the integrity of evidence found in these searches if family starts to head them up.  If LE won't tell "family anything, because there is too much interweaving in there, how could we possibly trust them to head the searches?
and

I saw this linked on topix today and thought it was odd.  The following is only an excerpt; the message in its entirety, including a statement concerning its transcription, can be found at the link provided.

Excerpt:
"As the search for missing C City teen Hailey Dunn continues, law enforcement officials are urging volunteers and search teams to use extra caution.
Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs told KBST today that, although volunteers are appreciated, the law still has to be followed throughout the investigation.
Rumors of non-authorized searches on private property, damage to private property, and personal friendships with any suspect or person of interest will be taken seriously.
Anyone who breaks the law during a volunteer search for Hailey Dunn can and will face criminal charges."

Link:  http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/03/28/hailey-dunn-transcript-law-enforcement-announcement-to-searchers-kbst-am-1490-radio-march-24-2011/
One explains the other, imo.

I suspect but cannot prove other reasons, as PT I think really has bad blood against BD and likely SA.  It'll come out eventually, as all things do.  Should be interesting to find out what exactly caused the notice.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 03, 2011, 12:59:21 AM
Could Clint still have feelings for Billie?

Could this be the reason that Clint distances Shawn from implication in the disappearance of his daughter?

Could it be that Clint realizes if Shawn goes down ... Billie will also go down in regards to illegal wrongdoing that may or may not have to do with Hailey?

Could Billie have been a participant in the distribution of child porn?

Could it be that Tamikosmom needs a break from the Hailey Dunn case?

I am off.  Have a good Saturday all.

Psalm 118:24
This is the day that the Lord has made, let us rejoice and be glad in it.

 
Janet
12:20 PM PT

+++++++ ::snipping2::

The first bold made me giggle, and the second bold made me cheer!  :)

You know, Janet -  I am under the belief that unless they are mortal enemies, the biomom of a first baby will always be important emotionally to a biodad.  He hasn't distanced himself from her, for God knows what reason, but I suspect it has to do with some combination of closet skeletons and a desire to still be allowed in David's and Hailey's lives.

You could be right starwynn.

Have a good sleep.

Janet
10:00 PM PT



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: yuknomenot on April 03, 2011, 01:20:52 AM
I read something interesting on Topix yesterday - that PT would be now heading up the Hailey searches.  I personally think this is a huge conflict of interests and very unwise, nevermind that I don't think she's the type to lead in an organized and logical fashion.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/colorado-city-tx/T1FA1VMHCUGFML4NE/p351  post #7136 regarding PT as "head searcher".

I am really starting to worry about the integrity of evidence found in these searches if family starts to head them up.  If LE won't tell "family anything, because there is too much interweaving in there, how could we possibly trust them to head the searches?
and

I saw this linked on topix today and thought it was odd.  The following is only an excerpt; the message in its entirety, including a statement concerning its transcription, can be found at the link provided.

Excerpt:
"As the search for missing C City teen Hailey Dunn continues, law enforcement officials are urging volunteers and search teams to use extra caution.
Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs told KBST today that, although volunteers are appreciated, the law still has to be followed throughout the investigation.
Rumors of non-authorized searches on private property, damage to private property, and personal friendships with any suspect or person of interest will be taken seriously.
Anyone who breaks the law during a volunteer search for Hailey Dunn can and will face criminal charges."

Link:  http://casesignal.wordpress.com/2011/03/28/hailey-dunn-transcript-law-enforcement-announcement-to-searchers-kbst-am-1490-radio-march-24-2011/
One explains the other, imo.

I suspect but cannot prove other reasons, as PT I think really has bad blood against BD and likely SA.  It'll come out eventually, as all things do.  Should be interesting to find out what exactly caused the notice.
It will be very interesting.  Would be better for the case if she was a simple attention seeker.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on April 03, 2011, 10:53:49 AM
Does PT have a criminal record? I do not know anything about PT, but she does not seem to be intimidated by LE like so many of the rest of this family. Whatever her motives are for inserting herself into this case, I have to say that I like the fact that she is not backing away from LE in that town. Maybe, just maybe, she can rattle some cages and get something done to ensure that Hailey's case is solved.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on April 03, 2011, 11:07:44 AM
http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/apr/02/dunns-searchers-not-hindered/

Car wash raised some funds for gas money for the searchers and for the reward.
Billie and Clint attended the event.
..
Patricia lives in San Saba. Never heard anything about a criminal record. However, several last names for some of these persons over the years makes it difficult to do any searches.
 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Sister on April 03, 2011, 11:36:10 AM

Despite what has been the "official line" of looking for a live Hailey, even when I was there in early February, the places being searched were not places that would harbor a living being.  We were looking for remains or evidence of where a crime had been committed. 

Yes, we did we hope, beyond hope, that a live Hailey would somehow be returned to us and that we were only looking in places to determine where Hailey "was not," however I felt from the initial briefing that most felt that Hailey's fate had already been determined. 
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flutter, thank you for being willing to search for Hailey.  I know what it feels like . . . there is the hope . . . there is the reality . . . there is the search.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Constance on April 03, 2011, 05:16:47 PM
Sorry I haven't been commenting much, doing a lotta related reading.
My problem is, because of all the talking to the press (PillyBillie, LE and PK also) that this thing will never be able to come to trial. Talk about a tainted jury pool!
Even the 'supportive' interviews, folks are hearing that....
Justice for Hailey! no matter how far we have to move the trial!
gb
~constance
 ::MonkeyMad::
Moving back to the Ozarks this week, I had really hoped it would break open before I left *sigh*


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on April 03, 2011, 06:25:38 PM
::HelloKitty::

Hi joesamas mama

Whatcha think?

I hope you are having a good day.

Janet

Sorry Janet, just saw this post.

I don't know what to think, I gave up being negative for Lent, so I am trying to be positive.

My BFF went to West Texas this weekend and has many family in LE, so hopefully will hear something tomorrow.

Hope you are well and glad your family in Japan weren't affected, prayers for those who were.

Will let you know if I hear anything that could help Hailey


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on April 03, 2011, 10:37:07 PM
Before anyone gets too worried, Katy Texas is over 200 miles from Colorado City.

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/04/body-of-unidentified-teen-found.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 03, 2011, 11:00:35 PM
::HelloKitty::

Hi joesamas mama

Whatcha think?

I hope you are having a good day.

Janet

Sorry Janet, just saw this post.

I don't know what to think, I gave up being negative for Lent, so I am trying to be positive.

My BFF went to West Texas this weekend and has many family in LE, so hopefully will hear something tomorrow.

Hope you are well and glad your family in Japan weren't affected, prayers for those who were.

Will let you know if I hear anything that could help Hailey

1.  No negativity from me.  I am positive that justice for Hailey is not going to happen unless Shawn breaks ... reveals all and ... I am positive that is not going to happen.

2.  My husband and immediate family immigrated to Canada in 1954 from the Northern prefecture of Miyagi ... very close to the devastation.  His sisters have kept in touch with cousins who now all live in the Tokyo area or South prefectures.  The happenings in Japan and the happenings in Libya imply that CNN is a constant background in our household.

3.  When your friend returns ... hopefully she is able to provide us with updates on the Hailey Dunn case.  I am so sad for Hailey but ... I am also angry at the adults in her life.  Selfish lifestyles took priority or the well-being of this little girl.  They were blessed with a gift beyond worth and never appreciated its value.

I hope you had a good weekend joesamas mama.

Janet
8:00 PM PT


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 03, 2011, 11:07:23 PM
Before anyone gets too worried, Katy Texas is over 200 miles from Colorado City.

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/04/body-of-unidentified-teen-found.html

Thanks sebastian.

Janet

+++++

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/crime_tracker&id=8050974


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on April 03, 2011, 11:26:15 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, please.
Patricia Trichel was previously married.

At one point she hooked up romantically with
Clint Dunn's brother, Brian Glasco ?
OMG ! This JUST hit reality with me.

Brian is in the video with Clint getting high with the cross doobie ?
What decent, responsible woman would want to spend time with Glasco ?
IMO, he looks like a 21st century Cheech and Chong, gone wrong ! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 03, 2011, 11:38:47 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, please.
Patricia Trichel was previously married.

At one point she hooked up romantically with
Clint Dunn's brother, Brian Glasco ?
OMG ! This JUST hit reality with me.

Brian is in the video with Clint getting high with the cross doobie ?
What decent, responsible woman would want to spend time with Glasco ?
IMO, he looks like a 21st century Cheech and Chong, gone wrong ! ::MonkeyMad::

Hey ... Clint was doing the "cross Doobie" too.

LED ... do you know the name of Naomi's grandma ... Patricia Trichel.

Thanks

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 03, 2011, 11:40:44 PM
SELF EDIT - MY LAST POST

Patricia Trichel s/b Patricia Trichel's mother.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on April 03, 2011, 11:53:44 PM
Janet
I thought that Patricia was Naomi's Mom,
not G'ma ?

I knw that Clint was smoking up too. He did not look  quite as scruffy ! LOL


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 04, 2011, 12:00:19 AM
Janet
I thought that Patricia was Naomi's Mom,
not G'ma ?

I knw that Clint was smoking up too. He did not look  quite as scruffy  ! LOL

It will just be a matter of time if Clint does not make the decision to make positive changes in his life.

I wanted the name of Naomi's grandma ... Patricia's mom.

It makes me sad that Brian is doing drugs with his younger brother.  It is one think if I chose to travel down the road to destruction but ... I would not take a loved one.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on April 04, 2011, 12:09:04 AM
Janet
I thought that Patricia was Naomi's Mom,
not G'ma ?

I knw that Clint was smoking up too. He did not look  quite as scruffy  ! LOL

It will just be a matter of time if Clint does not make the decision to make positive changes in his life.

I wanted the name of Naomi's grandma ... Patricia's mom.

It makes me sad that Brian is doing drugs with his younger brother.  It is one think if I chose to travel down the road to destruction but ... I would not take a loved one.

Janet
I agree ! We went through the drug addicted route with our son. Cocaine and alcohol are deadly. Crack is even worse to recover from. It steals your soul. We watched our son lose everything he had to addiction, and were helpless. He needed to do the footwork. After an intervention and 2 rehabs, he will be 35 in May, and clean and sober for 3 !!! years. He attends AA meetings 4 x a week, and has a wonderful message for  young people. He continually gives away what he received he tells me.

Someone needs to snatch up Clint and head him in the right direction. I, as Mother kicked my son in the ass everytime he messed up until he got clean.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on April 04, 2011, 12:26:46 AM
Correct me if I am wrong, please.
Patricia Trichel was previously married.

At one point she hooked up romantically with
Clint Dunn's brother, Brian Glasco ?
OMG ! This JUST hit reality with me.

Brian is in the video with Clint getting high with the cross doobie ?
What decent, responsible woman would want to spend time with Glasco ?
IMO, he looks like a 21st century Cheech and Chong, gone wrong ! ::MonkeyMad::


I think Patricia was a Stewart.  It was a Cindy Stewart that married Brian Glasco.
I don't know how or if they are related.
Naomi is also a Stewart.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 04, 2011, 12:26:50 AM
Janet
I thought that Patricia was Naomi's Mom,
not G'ma ?

I knw that Clint was smoking up too. He did not look  quite as scruffy  ! LOL

It will just be a matter of time if Clint does not make the decision to make positive changes in his life.

I wanted the name of Naomi's grandma ... Patricia's mom.

It makes me sad that Brian is doing drugs with his younger brother.  It is one think if I chose to travel down the road to destruction but ... I would not take a loved one.

Janet
I agree ! We went through the drug addicted route with our son. Cocaine and alcohol are deadly. Crack is even worse to recover from. It steals your soul. We watched our son lose everything he had to addiction, and were helpless. He needed to do the footwork. After an intervention and 2 rehabs, he will be 35 in May, and clean and sober for 3 !!! years. He attends AA meetings 4 x a week, and has a wonderful message for  young people. He continually gives away what he received he tells me.

Someone needs to snatch up Clint and head him in the right direction. I, as Mother kicked my son in the ass everytime he messed up until he got clean.

 ::MonkeyTears::

LED ... thank you for sharing.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on April 04, 2011, 12:37:09 AM
Is Colorado City in Satsuma ? LOL
These families with their marriages and
I don't know what all.....
really confuse me !

Nite all !
Need to go and sit with my sister tomorrow.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: sebastian on April 04, 2011, 11:42:50 AM
Janet
I thought that Patricia was Naomi's Mom,
not G'ma ?

I knw that Clint was smoking up too. He did not look  quite as scruffy  ! LOL

It will just be a matter of time if Clint does not make the decision to make positive changes in his life.

I wanted the name of Naomi's grandma ... Patricia's mom.

It makes me sad that Brian is doing drugs with his younger brother.  It is one think if I chose to travel down the road to destruction but ... I would not take a loved one.

Janet
I agree ! We went through the drug addicted route with our son. Cocaine and alcohol are deadly. Crack is even worse to recover from. It steals your soul. We watched our son lose everything he had to addiction, and were helpless. He needed to do the footwork. After an intervention and 2 rehabs, he will be 35 in May, and clean and sober for 3 !!! years. He attends AA meetings 4 x a week, and has a wonderful message for  young people. He continually gives away what he received he tells me.

Someone needs to snatch up Clint and head him in the right direction. I, as Mother kicked my son in the ass everytime he messed up until he got clean.

Hi LED!
Good for you and your son! What a great story. I am sure that your son has been clean and sober for 3 years because you were a good mom and were strong enough not to enable him or his habits! It is so nice that he is now helping others!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 04, 2011, 02:02:21 PM
Sorry I haven't been commenting much, doing a lotta related reading.
My problem is, because of all the talking to the press (PillyBillie, LE and PK also) that this thing will never be able to come to trial. Talk about a tainted jury pool!
Even the 'supportive' interviews, folks are hearing that....
Justice for Hailey! no matter how far we have to move the trial!
gb
~constance
 ::MonkeyMad::
Moving back to the Ozarks this week, I had really hoped it would break open before I left *sigh*

Constance, I wouldnt worry about a tainted jury pool as a reason this case wouldnt come to trial....Casey Anthony's murder trial is around the corner & if ever there was a case that was overexposed or more convoluted due to the defendant and surrounding people directly involved this one serves as a reminder that a fair trial can and will occur.  First we have to get to arrests in this case, unless a plea is offered & then accepted there is no reason why it wont be able to be tried locally, a change in venue to another location in Texas or another community brought in to serve as the jury pool, those are three options that are used standardly.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on April 04, 2011, 02:39:15 PM
Sorry I haven't been commenting much, doing a lotta related reading.
My problem is, because of all the talking to the press (PillyBillie, LE and PK also) that this thing will never be able to come to trial. Talk about a tainted jury pool!
Even the 'supportive' interviews, folks are hearing that....
Justice for Hailey! no matter how far we have to move the trial!
gb
~constance
 ::MonkeyMad::
Moving back to the Ozarks this week, I had really hoped it would break open before I left *sigh*

Constance, I wouldnt worry about a tainted jury pool as a reason this case wouldnt come to trial....Casey Anthony's murder trial is around the corner & if ever there was a case that was overexposed or more convoluted due to the defendant and surrounding people directly involved this one serves as a reminder that a fair trial can and will occur.  First we have to get to arrests in this case, unless a plea is offered & then accepted there is no reason why it wont be able to be tried locally, a change in venue to another location in Texas or another community brought in to serve as the jury pool, those are three options that are used standardly.

The trial could easily come here to Houston.  We've had little to no news in the papers about it.  Probably the same could be said of Dallas.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on April 04, 2011, 02:53:07 PM
So sad about this case.  We have been sitting on these last three pages for days.  I am praying for a miracle to get things back on track toward resolution for Hailey. 

 ::pullinghairout::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2011, 10:40:37 AM
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Hailey%20Dunn%20%20-TX-/HDD-2.jpg)
:smt049 HAILEY  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 05, 2011, 10:54:25 AM
Thanks Capp

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 05, 2011, 11:08:55 AM
Janet
I thought that Patricia was Naomi's Mom,
not G'ma ?

I knw that Clint was smoking up too. He did not look  quite as scruffy  ! LOL

It will just be a matter of time if Clint does not make the decision to make positive changes in his life.

I wanted the name of Naomi's grandma ... Patricia's mom.

It makes me sad/angry that Brian is doing drugs with his younger brother.  It is one thing Brian chooses down the road of destruction but ...

(Edited by Tamikosmom)

Janet

Found it!!

The dynamics encompassing the extended families of the main players in the Hailey Dunn case makes my head spin.

Janet

++++++

Titch
Re: Hailey Dunn #6 2/05/11 - 2/11/11
« Reply #775 on: February 10, 2011, 12:28:27 AM »


OMG, so bc of the "Gettin High" video being posted online, people are posting really nasty stuff on Clint Dunn's Facebook page.

Naomi's mom is Trish and her grandmother is Katherine.

Looks like Katherine is pretty upset, can't say I blame her.

Here's just a tiny bit of it:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=562637&id=214715745346&fbid=10150307592705347#!/permalink.php?story_fbid=199507583398729&id=100001996540056

Snip:
Katherine Birdwell omg what the hell is this .Get real Trish did not post any video as it is not by clint and she cannot get rid of it as Brian made and posted it so let us watch the slander here folks .some body lies and since i know the facts it aint me and... that is gossip she called cps and i know who it was and it was not her .I just wish some folks would grow up and look for hailey and stop the gossip back biting as let me tell you nobody knows how much money trish naomis mother has spent on naomi and c lint dunn.i have advised her before not to pay bondsman, cell phone bills ,rent utilites, clothes .this is a crock and am very upset by it and Clint i love you very much GRow up keep your business to your self all these folks can do is tear you apart and not solve your problems and it so childish all will give advise and stab you in the back and smile in your face.what the hell do you care about a damn video and what do you think cps can do .some one needs to stop telling tales and mind there own business and you young man need to grow and keep a few problems to your self as i can guarntee you not a damn one of the women giving advice can do a damn thing Just bullshit and you can use soe one else for the drama .Next slander will be a lawsuit and believe mes she has the attorneys .Yes big boy she trish paid for you to get divorce and probation and guess what bd stopped the divorce on grounds not see hailey any more I can also promise you if you keep mouthing you will never ever see another cent of her money.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9372.msg1302800#msg1302800


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 05, 2011, 11:38:46 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/MOD/modlock4.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on April 05, 2011, 12:45:56 PM
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Hailey%20Dunn%20%20-TX-/HDD-2.jpg)
:smt049 HAILEY  ::MonkeyAngel::
This pic touches my soul, and makes me wonder WTH is wrong with people ? ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on April 05, 2011, 01:58:56 PM
Quote
Numbers of Volunteers Searching for Missing Teen Going Down Dramatically
 

Staff Report
NewsWest 9

COLORADO CITY - The number of searchers looking for missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn has gone down dramatically.

According to KTXS out of Abilene, only one person showed up Friday.   

 ::snipping2::

http://www.newswest9.com/Global/story.asp?S=14375420 (http://www.newswest9.com/Global/story.asp?S=14375420)

Maybe has already been posted, but it is the only thing "new" in this case. 

Also, info from the Help Find Hailey FB page about PatriciaTrichel soliciting funds that did not go to the Official Help Find Hailey Dunn search organization. 

Quote
Help Find Hailey Dunn Patricia Trichel solicited via private messages and had the individual send money orders/checks to a specific address NOT the HFH search center or bank account. (T)
15 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 5 people

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/permalink.php?story_fbid=163214477069347&id=141796342544494 (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/permalink.php?story_fbid=163214477069347&id=141796342544494)

It looks like PT has some 'splaining to do if this is verified.   ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on April 05, 2011, 02:02:45 PM
Self-edit:  should be the Hope for Hailey organization.  Sorry! ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 05, 2011, 02:32:04 PM
Quote
Numbers of Volunteers Searching for Missing Teen Going Down Dramatically
 

Staff Report
NewsWest 9

COLORADO CITY - The number of searchers looking for missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn has gone down dramatically.

According to KTXS out of Abilene, only one person showed up Friday.   

 ::snipping2::

http://www.newswest9.com/Global/story.asp?S=14375420 (http://www.newswest9.com/Global/story.asp?S=14375420)

Maybe has already been posted, but it is the only thing "new" in this case. 

Also, info from the Help Find Hailey FB page about PatriciaTrichel soliciting funds that did not go to the Official Help Find Hailey Dunn search organization. 

Quote
Help Find Hailey Dunn Patricia Trichel solicited via private messages and had the individual send money orders/checks to a specific address NOT the HFH search center or bank account. (T)
15 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 5 people

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/permalink.php?story_fbid=163214477069347&id=141796342544494 (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/permalink.php?story_fbid=163214477069347&id=141796342544494)

It looks like PT has some 'splaining to do if this is verified.   ::CowboySmiley::

flutter

Consider there are those who know how to work the system for their benefit ... unless a fund is set up in such a way that accountability of disbusements is forthcoming to donors through a statement from a recognized institution ... I hesitate to donate any substantial amount to any cause.  The integrity/character/background of the recipient needs to be examined if scamming is to be avoided.  In other words ... we have been blessed with common sense as well as a heart when parting with our hard earned bucks.

Have a good afternoon all.  I am off.

Janet
11:30 AM PT

+++++


Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Clint Dunn’s Mother, Connie Jones, Radio Interview Feb 23

<snipped>

Host
: There was an account set up for Hailey Dunn donations, and the money in there was no longer in there, and a lot of people were pointing the finger, quite frankly, at you, so I would like you to address that.

Connie: Well, the only account that I know was the “Chipin”, went to a “PayPal”, and I had no access to it at all, and it went into Clint’s checking account. Every penny of it went into Clint’s checking account, and I think he’s still got money in there from the “Chipin” and…

Host: So you had nothing to do with that money.

Connie: No, ma’am, I didn’t. I still don’t. I mean, my daughter and my son-in-law, they set it up for Clint, and that’s the only account that I know about. If there’s any others, I don’t know anything about ‘em.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-transcript-clint-dunns-mother-connie-jones-radio-interview-feb-23/

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/24/bring-them-home-now-exclusive-hailey-dunns-grandma-and-aunt-livemisisng-laurie-partridge-family


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on April 05, 2011, 05:28:10 PM
Search Group Explains Hailey Dunn Merchandise Sales
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=358106


The group behind t-shirts being sold to raise awareness about missing 13-year-old Hailey Dunn sent out a statement detailing where proceeds for shirt sales are being spent.
Kristy Lloyd says money made from merchandise sales goes directly into the Hailey's Search fund set up at the City National Bank in Colorado City.

In a statement, Lloyd says the fund is used to keep Hailey's face out in the public and keep search efforts active.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: flutter1 on April 05, 2011, 08:31:20 PM
Interesting tidbit I found out this morning that may or may not explain the length of time that it is taking to get forensics back on the photo images.  Photo images taken with a smartphone equipped with gps have encripted in their file properties the location of where the picture was taken.   This is called "geo-tagging."

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usatoday.com%2Ftech%2Fcolumnist%2Fkimkomando%2F2011-03-24-komando-web-photos_N.htm%3Fsms_ss%3Dfacebook%26at_xt%3D4d9b145d1182d12b%252C0&h=b4896 (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usatoday.com%2Ftech%2Fcolumnist%2Fkimkomando%2F2011-03-24-komando-web-photos_N.htm%3Fsms_ss%3Dfacebook%26at_xt%3D4d9b145d1182d12b%252C0&h=b4896)

Is LE meticulously searching these photos to see if any of the ones taken by Shawn could contain a hiding place for a body? 

Just a thought but the whole issue of being able to be tracked by photos you take and place on FB really creeps me out.  Check your phones, monks, to see if your geo-tagging option is enabled.

Hopefully this is not too O/T to get me sent to the time-out cage.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 05, 2011, 09:21:17 PM

I cannot comprehend why an official flyer was not distributed early on by investigators ... an official flyer with a photo of both Shawn and the vehicle that he was driving on the morning of December 27th as well as identifying the areas indicated by the cell phone pings.  Could a flyer have jogged the memory of at lease one witness who may have unknowingly observed the disposal of a body?

Think about the Kyron Horman case and ... Terri Horman has yet to be officially declared a person of interest.

Janet

+++++

Kyron Horman Case

Police hope stepmom's photo will help spark more tips for Kyron Horman investigation
Published: Friday, June 18, 2010, 5:25 PM
Updated: Monday, June 21, 2010, 10:15 AM


Kyron Horman's stepmother was the last known person to see the 7-year-old on the day that he disappeared, said Capt. Jason Gates, and authorities hope her photo might help jog the memories of other witnesses.

The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office is distributing a flier showing photos of Terri Moulton Horman and the type of pickup she is thought to have driven on June 4, the day the second-grader disappeared from Skyline School.

"Sometimes in jogging peoples memories, sometimes it's the other things about that day or what was going on around them that will jog their memory with anything else they might have seen with regard to Kyron," Gates said.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/police_issue_questionnaire_ask.html


New flier asks residents if they saw Horman, Spicher
Story Published: Aug 10, 2010 at 3:20 PM PST
Story Updated: Aug 10, 2010 at 10:15 PM PST


PORTLAND, Ore. - Investigators working on the Kyron Horman case released a new flier Tuesday that asks residents near Kyron's elementary school if they saw his stepmother, Terri Horman, and her close friend, DeDe Spicher the day he disappeared.

The two-page flier includes pictures of Horman, Spicher and the white pickup truck Horman was driving on June 4 the day Kyron vanished, and in it police ask residents if they saw the two or the pickup between the hours of 9:45 a.m. and 1 p.m. that day.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100392859.html



flutter ... I am beginning to suspect LE is not interested in putting together a case against Shawn Adkits.

My theory does not imply that either Clint nor Billie were directly involved in the happenings encompassing the disappearance of their daughter but ... in the process of elimination ... why was Clint not given a polygraph.  For crying out loud ... Shawn stated that Hailey was on her way over to the home of her father the last time he saw her.  Clint concedes that he was at home.  The earring that Billie first claimed to investigators that Hailey was wearing was found in the carpet of Clint's home by David.

Think about the Kyron Horman case.  Communication records affirms that Desiree Young was nowhere in the vicinity of her son's residence or her son's school on the day of his disappearance.  Nevertheless ... Kyron's mother was given a polygraph.

If the case goes to trial ... it is my belief and my believe that Shawn's defense is going to have a field day regarding this issue.

Janet

++++++

Clint Dunn - No Polygraph

Hailey Dunn: Transcript: Clint Dunn: Blog Talk Radio Interview March 9


<snipped>

Host: Let’s just do this now. Did you take a polygraph?

Clint Dunn: No. No, I haven’t taken a polygraph. They’ve told me from the very beginning that I’m not a suspect, and they have no reason to look at me, and I told them right very beginning, “Hey, you need to do what you need to do to me. Put me in a polygraph, or do whatever, but clearing me, that way, we can find out what’s going on.”, but they’ve known from the beginning that I’m not nobody to look at, so I haven’t done a polygraph or anything.

Host: Where were you the day that she went missing?

Clint Dunn: I was at home. I was in my apartment and I didn’t leave all day long. My back was, I had back spasms that day. My back was tore up, but I didn’t leave the apartment all day long. I was there all day.

<snipped>

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-transcript-clint-dunn-blog-talk-radio-interview-march-9/

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/10/bring-them-home-now-exclusive-clint-dunn-speaks-mssing-carla-cook-family



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 -
Post by: starwynn on April 05, 2011, 09:41:33 PM
Interesting tidbit I found out this morning that may or may not explain the length of time that it is taking to get forensics back on the photo images.  Photo images taken with a smartphone equipped with gps have encripted in their file properties the location of where the picture was taken.   This is called "geo-tagging."

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usatoday.com%2Ftech%2Fcolumnist%2Fkimkomando%2F2011-03-24-komando-web-photos_N.htm%3Fsms_ss%3Dfacebook%26at_xt%3D4d9b145d1182d12b%252C0&h=b4896 (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usatoday.com%2Ftech%2Fcolumnist%2Fkimkomando%2F2011-03-24-komando-web-photos_N.htm%3Fsms_ss%3Dfacebook%26at_xt%3D4d9b145d1182d12b%252C0&h=b4896)

Is LE meticulously searching these photos to see if any of the ones taken by Shawn could contain a hiding place for a body? 

Just a thought but the whole issue of being able to be tracked by photos you take and place on FB really creeps me out.  Check your phones, monks, to see if your geo-tagging option is enabled.

Hopefully this is not too O/T to get me sent to the time-out cage.

Very interesting that they can do this.  I hope that this might play a part in Hailey's eventual case; maybe they can find something out!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 - 4/05/11
Post by: MuffyBee on April 05, 2011, 10:38:13 PM
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Hailey%20Dunn%20%20-TX-/HDDsmile.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 - 4/05/11
Post by: MuffyBee on April 05, 2011, 10:38:58 PM
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Hailey%20Dunn%20%20-TX-/HDD1.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 - 4/05/11
Post by: MuffyBee on April 05, 2011, 10:39:32 PM
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTRZTP_I9O1NBge-Pm8Yyy1KjImwl6454SV4JJa41n8l7ZaBNY6)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 - 4/05/11
Post by: MuffyBee on April 05, 2011, 10:40:02 PM
(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/hash/94/8d/Hailey%20Dunn%205.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 - 4/05/11
Post by: MuffyBee on April 05, 2011, 10:40:32 PM
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQSfMJRxC2YxVaXS6fI69OezIzaC3yPNK7L9uuSEhGgo7Thy1vn6A)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 - 4/05/11
Post by: MuffyBee on April 05, 2011, 10:41:00 PM
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQbd8wuaNlTf-MON55hbUm1TbBrfuNQKg1MI-870RhbB6YbghUAIQ)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 - 4/05/11
Post by: MuffyBee on April 05, 2011, 10:41:28 PM
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR14a9wmUWEP2UZGPVZAk9vaUOKF3zLqrOd4E63XVGyNGoJJ1_QNA)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 - 4/05/11
Post by: MuffyBee on April 05, 2011, 10:42:01 PM
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSXKGo83Th-Gd0JQdK9PXUVX-5GZ5aDiRI78_gPkOi9TTno53vy)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 - 4/05/11
Post by: MuffyBee on April 05, 2011, 10:42:38 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_6jwe0aQX4M/TWB9SE8XN9I/AAAAAAAAB70/AAG18haaIrY/s400/Hailey%252CTeacher%255B1%255D.jpg)
Hailey with one of her teachers


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 - 4/05/11
Post by: MuffyBee on April 05, 2011, 10:43:17 PM
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Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 - 4/05/11
Post by: MuffyBee on April 05, 2011, 10:43:49 PM
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Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #10 3/18/11 - 4/05/11
Post by: MuffyBee on April 05, 2011, 10:44:02 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/MOD/MODLOCK1.gif)

Hailey Dunn #11

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9622.0